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| 00:07.24 | Newbie3 | Hi. |
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| 00:08.17 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:08.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:20.10 | rubin110 | Anyone know how to get a debug log out of Thunderbird that's more application level than protocols? |
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| 00:34.16 | leo-unglaub | rubin110: i had to do this a long time ago because i reported a bug |
| 00:34.28 | leo-unglaub | you have to set some environment variables and restart thunderbird |
| 00:36.07 | leo-unglaub | --enable-debug normaly |
| 00:36.17 | leo-unglaub | but i am not sure anymore |
| 00:36.21 | leo-unglaub | it's 2 years ago |
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| 01:27.58 | jlzhang | How can I setup /etc/network/interfaces? I want to use pptp over pppoe. |
| 01:28.43 | jlzhang | the logfile:anon warn[pptp_gre_bind:pptp_gre.c:100]: connect: Network is unreachable |
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| 01:30.51 | jlzhang | iface pppoe inet ppp ; post-up pon ppttp ; |
| 01:31.05 | jlzhang | also the log:anon warn[pptp_gre_bind:pptp_gre.c:100]: connect: Network is unreachable |
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| 01:34.32 | dpkg | Volunteers are people who do things for you for free. All the helpers on #debian are volunteers. Please treat them with respect and don't expect them to follow your orders. Insulting them or the things that they have worked hard to create is not a good way of getting help. |
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| 01:36.59 | dpkg | judd is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 2h 58m 3s, last said: '[17fe:2220] is 'IPN 2220 802.11g' from 'InProComm Inc.' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=17fe:2220'. |
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| 01:59.26 | hikenboot | not sure if this is something debian can handle but am looking for some other possible solutions...I have 4 public IP addresses assigned to me through dhcp (I get 4 out of a possible 1022 ) every week or so. I have an alix computer with a 4 gig flash...is there something (debian derivative or debian) that I can run that will allow me to associate 1:1 NAT with the four public IP addresses |
| 01:59.42 | aidalgol | I haven't used my webcam in a while, and now it is no longer in /dev/. I have no idea where to even begin troubleshooting this. |
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| 02:00.16 | hikenboot | pfsense which i have grown to love doesnt support it |
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| 02:01.50 | abrotman | hikenboot: iptables /netfilter |
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| 02:03.33 | hikenboot | I am very familiar with networking from cisco but not iptables..is there a gui for it that will get me over my lack of expertise in this area? |
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| 02:12.22 | abrotman | hikenboot: there are front-ends to help you .. but netfilter.org should have a howto for you describing 1:1 NAT |
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| 02:21.11 | somiaj | aidalgol: look up your webcam on google, see what modules are needed to support it. Many will use the video4linux (v4l) tools, so make sure you have those installed. |
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| 02:25.47 | mns | Is there a way to get Network Manager to release the DHCP address and renew it ? I'm trying to help a friend who has Debian stable insalled and is new to Linux. I dont use Network Manager (or gnome/kde) |
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| 02:31.38 | abrotman | mns: turn off networking maybe? |
| 02:32.17 | abrotman | mns: right-click on the icon |
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| 02:41.28 | OldParr | an amd sempron is an amd64 architecture ? |
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| 02:42.29 | abrotman | OldParr: depends whicdh version |
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| 02:43.38 | OldParr | abrotman it says LE 1200 in the windows control panel |
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| 02:45.07 | OldParr | abrotman it says amd semprom LE 1200 2.10 GHz in the windows control panel |
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| 02:46.54 | abrotman | OldParr: you're going to need to know if it's 64bit or if you can get the CPU flags .. or get the multi-arch installer, try the 64 bit, if it fails, go 32bit :) |
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| 02:56.33 | skilz | How do I uninstall a font? |
| 02:56.57 | OldParr | does debian-live-6.0.2-amd64-standard.iso.torrent comes with a desktop or is only CLI |
| 02:59.36 | OldParr | skilz: try aptitude search font |
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| 03:01.23 | simonlnu | skilz: aptitude purge the package or rm/mv it from ~/.fonts, and run fc-cache -vf |
| 03:03.36 | abrotman | ikdwhy not just get the multiarch installer? then you can install what you want? |
| 03:03.56 | nutron | is there a data forensics channel I can ask some questions on? |
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| 03:11.26 | amero | is there anyone good with rrdtool here? how do you display the min, max, current reading in the legend? |
| 03:11.51 | amero | like this one http://martybugs.net/linux/rrdtool/images/traffic_detail.png |
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| 03:16.07 | nutron | uudecode... what package? |
| 03:16.17 | iluminator101 | where do i move the ppd file to get printer up and runner from a previous install? |
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| 03:17.01 | roe | Does apt/aptitude support any sort of note taking? I'm interesting in attaching a note that would be displayed to the user when said package is being updated/removed/installed |
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| 03:19.09 | poridge | is it possible to install debian to a file and boot from that file kind of like windows support for native .vhd booting? |
| 03:19.35 | boudiccas | poridge; i seriously doubt it |
| 03:19.58 | poridge | darn |
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| 03:20.29 | boudiccas | poridge; it can be made into an iso and boot from that to install it |
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| 03:20.50 | Coweater | roe: i know some packages have given me change notice when updating, i'm not sure what the method is called though |
| 03:20.55 | valeriusL | poridge, yes -- you can make a bootable CD/flash/whatever using knoppix technology -- first the kernel with initrd boots, then it mounts a cryptoloop device.. |
| 03:21.31 | wols | poridge: sure, grub2 can do it. it might need some help from syslinux but it can be done |
| 03:21.39 | valeriusL | valeriusL, or, you can mount squashfs, like slackware does |
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| 03:22.08 | wols | roe: only if you create custom .debs. then however it is easy |
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| 03:22.37 | roe | wols, not really the same thing, I will figure something else out, thanks |
| 03:23.06 | roe | it would be a neat feature to add though |
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| 03:23.33 | boudiccas | i read poridge question as he wanted one file , and one file only, to boot from and everything required for it would all be in that one file |
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| 03:24.20 | jef91 | Anyone know what package controls a system's TTYs? |
| 03:24.29 | poridge | valeriusL wols is there a guide for either of those? and pretty much boudiccas except the loader |
| 03:24.30 | jef91 | I no longer have access to them, just a blinking white line |
| 03:24.39 | enthdegree | what do you mean |
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| 03:25.28 | valeriusL | poridge, a guide? -- maybe, somewhere on Knoppix site -- www.knopper.net |
| 03:25.38 | jef91 | when I press ctrl+alt+f1 I just get a blinking white line on f1-f6 |
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| 03:26.34 | valeriusL | jef91, getty's are hanging on tty lines, so you need install getty in inittab |
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| 03:26.49 | simonlnu | jef91: the gettys |
| 03:26.51 | NekawA | so it seems as though adobe changed the link that the package flashplugin-nonfree downloads from and now its broken |
| 03:27.03 | NekawA | should i report this somewhere? |
| 03:27.10 | simonlnu | there's several packages, all have differing caps |
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| 03:29.55 | jef91 | how do I do that valeriusl? |
| 03:30.56 | lighta | hi guys, I'm having some trouble trying to set chroot ssh. I follow that guide : http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny but I can't log trought ssh with the chrooted account. Can someone help about that ? |
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| 03:33.19 | wols | !tell lighta about errors |
| 03:33.33 | nsadmin | not "install" getty, you should have a getty already... but, you will need to -start- gettys for your serial lines |
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| 03:34.14 | jef91 | how does one go about doing that nsadmin? |
| 03:34.57 | valeriusL | jef91, you can look into your working system's /etc/inittab and do likewise: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 |
| 03:34.59 | nsadmin | if you look at most inittabs installed by dists, you should see a coupla commented lines at the end |
| 03:35.28 | Resisty | Hi everybody, I've gotten the redirect to here and I'm very quickly falling down the rabbit hole... When I try to call `apache2 -S` with or without sudo or as root, I get the "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" error, but user and group are set in /etc/apache2/envvars. Is anybody familiar with this problem? |
| 03:35.31 | simonlnu | nowadays most are faster than 38K ;p |
| 03:35.34 | valeriusL | jef91, several such lines, each for each TTY |
| 03:35.49 | nsadmin | actually I'm not totally sure squeeze uses the same init as before |
| 03:36.16 | valeriusL | simonlnu, in my system they are at 38400 :) |
| 03:36.30 | nsadmin | it's possible you will need to tune the uart(s) for the line speed you want |
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| 03:36.48 | NekawA | my tty1-6 disappears when X launches xfce4 its so annoying :( |
| 03:36.54 | nsadmin | for that you would use setserial |
| 03:37.05 | luke-jr | is there any docs for setting up Asterisk on Debian? :/ |
| 03:37.06 | nsadmin | and all of this is an area that's challenging |
| 03:37.08 | valeriusL | nsadmin, maybe, I can -=- it should support 115200 anyway |
| 03:37.39 | iluminator101 | lpinfo: Connection timed out |
| 03:37.39 | iluminator101 | lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection timed out |
| 03:37.39 | iluminator101 | ??? |
| 03:37.49 | nsadmin | it also depends on what you're connecting to |
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| 03:38.32 | Resisty | Anybody who read my question: never mind, had the wrong command! |
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| 03:38.39 | somiaj | Resisty: if you are using debian, start apache with /etc/init.d/apache2 start/stop/restart (use the init script) |
| 03:39.02 | nsadmin | Resisty, rm instead of grep?! |
| 03:39.13 | NekawA | lol |
| 03:39.43 | nsadmin | each can be tghe right command if that's what you want... |
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| 03:42.07 | lighta | ok so in a pastebin way the issue would be like that. (having issue connection ssh) http://pastebin.com/rmDQq8PV |
| 03:42.51 | nsadmin | you tried "FORWARD, MARCH" when what you really wanted was "RETREAT!!!!"?? |
| 03:43.00 | iluminator101 | password not send is what i get back on tftp??? |
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| 03:43.49 | somiaj | lighta: do you have ./bin/sh pointing to ./bin/bash? |
| 03:44.05 | lighta | hmm no why would I ? |
| 03:44.29 | nsadmin | it was like that for years and years |
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| 03:44.56 | somiaj | lighta: something (probabaly a script is linked to #!/bin/sh) is calling /bin/sh and it cannot find that file hence the error and the disconnect |
| 03:45.05 | lighta | ah yeah got it for the bin/sh not found but well I prefer bin/sh but it do the same if it switch in /etc/passwd |
| 03:45.31 | lighta | same attempd but for bash |
| 03:45.31 | lighta | Last login: Wed Sep 7 05:34:56 2011 from bas1-montreal43-1177755860.dsl.bell.ca |
| 03:45.32 | lighta | /bin/bash: No such file or directory |
| 03:45.32 | lighta | Connection to 88.191.134.169 closed. |
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| 03:45.59 | nsadmin | lighta, if you use features specific to bash in your script, you will want bash in the #!, not sh |
| 03:46.39 | nsadmin | if you -avoid- "bashisms". then #!/bin/sh is appropriate |
| 03:46.51 | lighta | hmm it's just a chrooted ssh, no new script. I just set an limited environement in /chroot repertory |
| 03:47.11 | somiaj | lighta: do you have ./bin/bash in your chroot? |
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| 03:47.19 | lighta | yes I do |
| 03:47.44 | somiaj | lighta: well it says the file is not found, could it permissions |
| 03:48.15 | lighta | hmm yeah could be the case didn't, try that, I did all in root so may be the case |
| 03:48.22 | nsadmin | lighta, what does ls -l /bin/sh return? |
| 03:48.42 | nsadmin | (run the command before answering please :) |
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| 03:49.07 | lighta | yeah wait a sec, here in the chrooted one. Don't wanted to be kick again |
| 03:49.08 | lighta | bash cp ls mkdir mv rm rmdir shsu |
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| 03:49.28 | somiaj | you forgot the -l |
| 03:49.47 | nsadmin | not /bin |
| 03:49.47 | lighta | no I said it was the file in /chroot/bin |
| 03:49.51 | lighta | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 10 03:04 /bin/sh -> dash |
| 03:49.58 | lighta | that the command you asked after |
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| 03:50.07 | nsadmin | ahh, that looks right, that's just what I have |
| 03:50.16 | nsadmin | now, ls -l /bin/dash |
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| 03:50.42 | lighta | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84144 Dec 15 2010 /bin/dash |
| 03:50.54 | nsadmin | hmm. looks like you have that too |
| 03:51.19 | nsadmin | if you type sh, do you get a shell prompt? |
| 03:51.46 | lighta | but nsadmin, stop me if 'im wrong but were checking on /bin here, the issue it's only for chrooted user, so I taught it may be for /chroot/bin no ? |
| 03:52.05 | lighta | yes had the shell prompt |
| 03:52.12 | lighta | # exit |
| 03:52.21 | nsadmin | good, you got out |
| 03:52.33 | lighta | (I wrote the exit) |
| 03:53.11 | somiaj | lighta: yes we are talking about the files inside your chroot. You should have chroot /chroot before running them, or append the /chroot onto the path |
| 03:53.11 | nsadmin | well, yes, that's true... this script you're trying to run, is it run inside the chroot? |
| 03:53.36 | lighta | well he said / not ./ so |
| 03:53.54 | lighta | but yeah I run the chroot one and ther no link here |
| 03:53.57 | lighta | so may be the case |
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| 03:54.03 | nsadmin | right, ./ and / would have -very- different effects |
| 03:54.08 | lighta | root@Titan-SRV:/chroot/bin# ls -l /chroot/bin/sh |
| 03:54.16 | lighta | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84144 Dec 15 2010 /chroot/bin/sh |
| 03:54.17 | somiaj | lighta: he was assuming you were running those commands in the root. |
| 03:54.18 | nsadmin | in generally you don't want . in your path |
| 03:54.31 | somiaj | s/root/chroot/ |
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| 03:54.46 | lighta | yes but ok let's calm down I repaet the issue ok |
| 03:54.57 | no-name- | how's the sandy bridge support for debian? |
| 03:55.11 | nsadmin | so the chroot's /bin/sh is a file not a link |
| 03:55.34 | nsadmin | perhaps it's identical to one of the shells, like bash or dash |
| 03:55.43 | lighta | general ssh working fine, but if I try from a chrooted user like atanosta he close the connection. And you telling me to check /dir instead /chroot/dir so I just asked |
| 03:56.33 | nsadmin | oh, ok, it was just a misunderstanding... that and water can pass under the bridge |
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| 03:57.05 | lighta | xd ok so, about the last comand |
| 03:57.16 | lighta | isn't weird I don't have pointer to dash here ? |
| 03:57.24 | lighta | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84144 Dec 15 2010 /chroot/bin/sh |
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| 03:58.15 | somiaj | lighta: put ls -l /chroot/bin (put the output in a pastebin) |
| 03:58.17 | nsadmin | if cmo /bin/dash /chroot/bin/sh ]; then echo yes; else echo no |
| 03:58.35 | nsadmin | oops, misspeolling |
| 03:58.41 | nsadmin | if cmp /bin/dash /chroot/bin/sh ]; then echo yes; else echo no |
| 03:58.57 | nsadmin | still bad, last try |
| 03:59.01 | nsadmin | if cmp /bin/dash /chroot/bin/sh; then echo yes; else echo no |
| 03:59.08 | nsadmin | run that |
| 03:59.19 | nsadmin | outside the chroot |
| 03:59.40 | lighta | http://pastebin.com/38Q8BJcP |
| 04:00.35 | lighta | no result for you cmd nsadmin, like waiting something |
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| 04:01.05 | lighta | http://pastebin.com/uikyiX5T |
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| 04:04.06 | lighta | should I copy /bin/dash into /chroot/bin/dash ? |
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| 04:06.04 | bendbanks | Hi everyone I've just setup a squeeze mail server running postfix (followed debian install guide) when I run telnet all I get is trying 127.0.0.1â¦.. Connected to localhost. Escape chacater is '^]'. I should be seeing some server out put. I'm pretty new at this learning fast but still learning. Any help would be great thanks |
| 04:07.22 | nsadmin | why are you expecting anything from telnet? |
| 04:07.49 | dwfreed | In SMTP, the connecting client is the first to say something, IIRC |
| 04:07.55 | nsadmin | you would run telnetd on the server (but don't actually do that, you might not want to for security reasons) |
| 04:08.30 | dwfreed | nsadmin: methinks he's trying to use telnet to verify that his SMTP server is running |
| 04:08.38 | nsadmin | show the telnet command you're using |
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| 04:08.57 | nsadmin | (put HOST instead of the ip if you want) |
| 04:08.58 | bendbanks | yes correct sorry should have mentioned that command is telnet localhost 25 |
| 04:09.37 | nsadmin | oh, so: yes, if postfix is running on the machine you telnetted from, that should work |
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| 04:10.30 | nsadmin | try HELO localhost <enter> |
| 04:11.41 | bendbanks | bash: HELO: command not found |
| 04:11.54 | nsadmin | telnet first :) |
| 04:12.02 | nsadmin | then send that into the telnet |
| 04:12.11 | bendbanks | are okay thanks 2 secs |
| 04:12.25 | SkilZ | hmm |
| 04:12.37 | nsadmin | wwy |
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| 04:14.38 | bendbanks | returns ?Invalid command |
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| 04:15.09 | nsadmin | when you first telnet and before you send that, does it say 220 (something)? |
| 04:15.28 | zuse_ | test |
| 04:15.35 | nsadmin | best |
| 04:15.48 | bendbanks | no just goes straight to telnet command line |
| 04:16.03 | nsadmin | so you see telnet>? |
| 04:16.16 | bendbanks | yep |
| 04:16.24 | nsadmin | hmm. |
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| 04:16.56 | nsadmin | so you may have hit ctrl-shift-] |
| 04:17.09 | nsadmin | which is the default telnet escape char |
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| 04:17.44 | SkilZ | ctrl z |
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| 04:17.53 | bendbanks | yes I had to do that once before to get out of telnet |
| 04:18.07 | bendbanks | crt ] |
| 04:18.25 | nsadmin | ok, so the port is being listened on |
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| 04:18.56 | bendbanks | yeah if I try to connect to the server from a mail client it knows it's there it just times out |
| 04:19.33 | nsadmin | oh ok, so something about the server isn't working properly |
| 04:20.07 | bendbanks | well I thought that but I can not send mail out which lead me back to SMTP and maybe not having postfix setup right |
| 04:20.25 | nsadmin | it's been really long since I've debugged email client stuff |
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| 04:20.51 | nsadmin | this is a debian package you installed for postfix? |
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| 04:21.29 | nsadmin | either way the postfix may be misconfigured |
| 04:21.50 | bendbanks | yeah might just have to start from scratch I think |
| 04:22.02 | bendbanks | thanks very much for your help though |
| 04:22.12 | nsadmin | why postfix? why not exim4? |
| 04:22.26 | lighta | so no other idea for me guys ? |
| 04:22.53 | SkilZ | lighta: Whats the problem? |
| 04:23.20 | nsadmin | lighta, the thing is serial stuff is not easy... I have to leave soon so I can't handle the request |
| 04:23.51 | lighta | hi guys, I'm having some trouble trying to set chroot ssh. I follow that guide : http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny but I can't log trought ssh with the chrooted account. Can someone help about that ?, ok so in a pastebin way the issue would be like that. (having issue connection ssh) http://pastebin.com/rmDQq8PV |
| 04:23.59 | bendbanks | no real reason to be honest I might start from scratch and go exim4 this time |
| 04:24.01 | nsadmin | SkilZ, he's trying to hang a getty on a serial line, and in the process of putting a line in inittab to start it |
| 04:24.18 | lighta | no problem, I tryed with link but nothing changed :( |
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| 04:24.41 | nsadmin | what's on the other side of the serial line? |
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| 04:26.05 | lighta | trying to do that in short : http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny, http://www.pariscyber.com/security/howto-chroot-ssh.php |
| 04:26.40 | somiaj | lighta: ls -l /chroot (I want to see the output of that in a pastebin) |
| 04:26.49 | nsadmin | how does any of that relate to getty and/or serial lines? |
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| 04:27.15 | somiaj | lighta: also if you type chroot /chroot can you run any of your commands like ls, mkdir etc? |
| 04:27.36 | somiaj | nsadmin: do you have him confused with someone else. I missed the serial line person, but he has been trying to get that chroot to work over ssh |
| 04:27.38 | lighta | hmm didn't try somiaj let's try |
| 04:27.59 | somiaj | lighta: yea you can get into the chroot with 'chroot /chroot' and test out your binaries work |
| 04:28.15 | nsadmin | who was it who was hanging the getty? |
| 04:28.32 | lighta | yes somiaj , working fine, i'll do a pastebin to show and for the request |
| 04:29.20 | somiaj | nsadmin: jef91 it seems |
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| 04:29.29 | lighta | http://pastebin.com/PGsge4e5 |
| 04:29.29 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 04:29.33 | nsadmin | never mind :) |
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| 04:30.19 | nsadmin | so, the chrooted env, if it has its own IP then you could start sshd |
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| 04:30.57 | nsadmin | if not, you need to configure a different port for the ssh in the chroot |
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| 04:31.07 | somiaj | he dosen't need /proc bound in the chroot to login and get everythign to work right? |
| 04:31.25 | lighta | hmm he have the same ip has the one I'm using atm as root. I need to have an admin and a chrooted env on this host (that the whole point of the chrooted) |
| 04:31.34 | nsadmin | oh, I think that would be handy to have that mount :) |
| 04:31.53 | nsadmin | anyway, nite all |
| 04:31.55 | somiaj | well I don't see why he is getting the error /bin/sh: file not found |
| 04:32.23 | nsadmin | maybe the script he's running is at fault |
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| 04:33.03 | somiaj | it will just be login I think. Well maybe it is just missing something in proc |
| 04:33.22 | somiaj | lighta: mkdir /chroot/proc; mount -t proc proc /chroot/proc |
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| 04:33.59 | lighta | wouldn't be a security hole ? well I'll try |
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| 04:35.17 | somiaj | I'm trying to figure that out, I'm use to playing in full chroots as opposed to jails. (: |
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| 04:36.23 | lighta | same error |
| 04:36.38 | somiaj | yea aperentally its not needed, so I guess unmount it |
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| 04:38.36 | lighta | (actually if I edit /etc/passwd and /chroot/etc/passwd for /bin/sh then I have sh not found, but if I do for /bin/bash then /bin/bash it's the file not found (sorry 1st pastebin was still in /bin/bash wich didn't fit well desc) |
| 04:39.02 | lighta | I'm wonder if I shouldn't put /chroot/bin/bash then ? |
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| 04:39.57 | SkilZ | . |
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| 04:56.07 | lighta | gosh finally succed ! |
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| 04:56.57 | SkilZ | :) |
| 04:57.27 | lighta | what to know big issue %h instead /chroot in sshd_config. grrrrrr ! |
| 04:58.07 | lighta | anyway thank forsupport guys somiaj SkilZ =) |
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| 06:12.35 | mat619 | Hi there. I downloaded the i386 XFCE live-cd yesterday to try and install it on a VIA C7 based machine. Turned out that the live system did work, but after install I'm left with an unbootable system because the kernel complains about the CPU lacking i686 specific features (cx8, cmov) the VIA C7 doesn't fully support. Why is that? I thought live and installed system were supposed to be the same? |
| 06:14.19 | somiaj | the live cd may have various kernels though. I'm surprised it didn't install the right kernel though. |
| 06:14.28 | somiaj | you don't recall an option to chose which kernel? |
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| 06:14.32 | jeeves_moss | how can I get past this? http://pastebin.com/aJmZPMuV |
| 06:15.02 | mat619 | Definitely not, I even tried a new install in case I missed something, but no. That's what I thought I'd get what I downloaded, i386! |
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| 06:15.29 | jeeves_moss | how can I get past this? http://pastebin.com/aJmZPMuV |
| 06:15.45 | somiaj | jeeves_moss: have you tried other usb mass storage devices. |
| 06:17.21 | somiaj | mat619: I don't see why it would be installing the 686 kernel, but for somereason it seems to be. You could use the livecd to boot up, chroot into your current install and just install a regular kernel. |
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| 06:18.22 | mat619 | somiaj: sounds like a good idea. But what if the installed libraries etc. are also i686? |
| 06:19.02 | somiaj | no |
| 06:19.19 | somiaj | the binaries/libs will all be base i386 |
| 06:19.34 | somiaj | there are only a few pacakges they compile with 686 extensions and the kernel is one of them |
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| 06:20.03 | somiaj | they don't make a seperate set of binaries for each i386 32bit varriant, just the kernels. |
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| 06:22.51 | deluge | /connect irc.what.cd |
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| 06:33.35 | xro | Hi, i try to monitor openldap with nagios on a ldap server without success... What is the way to do it? i tried like that : /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_ldaps -H ldaps://localhost -p 636 -b o=xxxxx |
| 06:33.35 | xro | Could not connect to the server at port 636 |
| 06:34.13 | ompaul | xro: can you log into the box using ldap ... if so then we have the answer |
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| 06:34.44 | xro | ompaul, the box? |
| 06:34.44 | mat619 | somiaj: alright, thank you for the help so far. could you point me in the right direction on how to install the true i386 kernel from the live-cd? I never had to swap a kernel before. |
| 06:34.57 | ompaul | xro: computer |
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| 06:35.01 | somiaj | mat619: boot up from the live cd |
| 06:35.28 | xro | ompaul, yes i'm logged in... i typed the command in a shell on the ldap machine.... |
| 06:35.37 | somiaj | mat619: mount your root directory somewhere (from your harddrive) -- mount /dev/sda<whatever> /mnt |
| 06:36.04 | somiaj | mat619: then mount proc, mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc. Then chroot /mnt (now you are in your install) |
| 06:36.33 | ompaul | xro: but did you use an ldap enabled account to log onto the box? |
| 06:36.42 | somiaj | mat619: once your are in your install dpkg -l | grep linux-image (to see what kernel is installed) and apt-cache search linux-image (to see what ones you can install) -- then apt-get install it |
| 06:37.05 | ompaul | xro: you can have ldap on a machine, you can also log in using the normal password files |
| 06:37.07 | ompaul | at the same time |
| 06:37.44 | mat619 | somiaj: ah, thanks, that sounds easy! apt-get will grab it from the CD? because the c7-box is not connected to the internet. |
| 06:37.53 | xro | ompaul, yes... i don't use ldap user on the ldap server... But my ldap server works fine... and prodide credential for all my networks.... |
| 06:38.06 | xro | ompaul, i just want to monitor it with nagios... |
| 06:38.22 | ompaul | xro: and it is ldaps not ldap? |
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| 06:39.14 | ompaul | xro: please check this - I have to run to work cheers http://nagiosplugins.org/man/check_ldap |
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| 06:39.28 | somiaj | mat619: I was hoping you were connected to the internet. debian stable right? |
| 06:39.58 | somiaj | mat619: unsure if the cd will have pacakges on it or not (might just image it) |
| 06:40.00 | xro | ompaul, yes ldaps... i use tls in my network for security raison |
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| 06:40.44 | mat619 | somiaj: wish I could connect it, would make stuff much easier, but unfortunately can't. and i think it's the latest 6.something live cd that I downloaded. |
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| 06:41.26 | xro | ompaul, yes the man... i read it and it doesn't work... this is why i'm here! |
| 06:42.10 | somiaj | mat619: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-2.6.32-5-486 -- download that package and copy it over. then once you chroot into your install just dpkg -i it |
| 06:43.16 | mat619 | somiaj: ah, perfect, i486. that will do. thank you very much, will try that as soon as I get back to the machine! |
| 06:44.45 | somiaj | mat619: yea i386 dosen't mean the 386, seems 686 is just considered standared these days which is probabaly the kernel put on the livecd -- maybe the kernel you boot up on the live image just isn't fully enabled like the one it installed. |
| 06:45.08 | somiaj | mat619: as I said seems strange that it would boot up the live system but not put the same kernel on the install. |
| 06:45.38 | mat619 | somiaj: yeah, that's exactly what confused the hell outta me yesterday when I did the install. |
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| 06:46.09 | somiaj | mat619: oh well its probabaly just a kernel issue, hope that kernel fixes thigns for you |
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| 06:48.26 | mat619 | somiaj: I'm confused about the kernel blaring the C7 would not support cx8 and cmov anyway, since VIA exactly introduced these very instructions with the C7. The C3 didn't have them, so maybe the kernel doesn't know the C7 properly? No idea. |
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| 06:49.36 | somiaj | mat619: yea its a processor I'm not familar with. :/ |
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| 06:54.07 | mat619 | somiaj: seems the kernel isn't either ;) oh well, thanks to your help I'm quite confident I can sort it out anyhow. Gotta get back to work now, thanks again for your help and have a nice day everybody! |
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| 06:56.29 | rose24 | anyone can tell me which is the console font used at boot time? |
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| 07:04.47 | streuner_ | rose24: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html |
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| 07:06.25 | rose24 | streuner_: the problem is that I don't have my laptop here and I cant do a cat of the corresponding file |
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| 07:09.37 | streuner_ | rose24: http://pastebin.com/BXGEsSi0 |
| 07:09.51 | rose24 | thanx streuner_ :) |
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| 07:16.58 | rose24 | streuner_: it seems all the lines are preceeded with a # so... it doesn't seem to specify which is the default font |
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| 07:17.28 | niklaswe | how will i do to add hostobject to an ldap group? |
| 07:17.45 | niman | hi how can i disable gnome i dont need any GUI and login manager how can i do that i need just consol ? |
| 07:18.02 | niklaswe | when I adding objectClass: Hostobject and host: myhost |
| 07:18.07 | niklaswe | i got syntax error.. |
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| 07:23.16 | streuner_ | rose24: true, that sounds like a kernel font then? |
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| 07:26.02 | rose24 | streuner_: mmm maybe... |
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| 07:26.35 | quotemstr | Is there an upstream for hpsocks5? |
| 07:26.40 | quotemstr | All my Google hits point to Debian packages. |
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| 07:35.16 | kansas_slim | hi |
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| 07:43.18 | ic_johnsson | I am having problem installing anything new on my debian server, "Errors were encountered while processing: samba-common, samba, samba-common-bin, smbclient, winbind" |
| 07:44.03 | ic_johnsson | something about "chmod: cannot access '/etc/samba/smb.conf': No such file... |
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| 07:46.46 | kansas_slim | i need expert opinions on backups. if i combine incremental and differential backup models, so that, let's say i take increm. backups every day of the week except on sunday when i will make my differential backups. so, the question now is: the incremential BU on monday will it have to backup from the last incr.BU on saturday or from the diff.BU on sunday. opinions appreciated |
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| 07:48.44 | anddam | hello |
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| 07:50.48 | jelly-home | kansas_slim: it depends on the backup tool in question, read their docs to see how the backups stack |
| 07:51.52 | jsoft | What is a good program for downloading a page and all its links and putting it into a pdf? |
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| 07:52.22 | anddam | jsoft: a single program? |
| 07:52.41 | darkhomo | Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libdb5.1, probably a dependency cycle |
| 07:52.52 | jsoft | anddam: well that would be nice |
| 07:52.54 | darkhomo | after a failed dist-upgrade |
| 07:52.59 | jsoft | I remember adobe being able to do it |
| 07:53.03 | darkhomo | whats the fix? |
| 07:53.05 | jsoft | acrobat even |
| 07:53.10 | anddam | jsoft: IDK any |
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| 07:57.28 | anddam | is there a list of all system provided groups, i.e. a more comprehensive table than http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html#listofnotablesysupsforfileaccess ? |
| 07:57.50 | anddam | I was searching exactly for adm and staff (that are in that list) but I'm asking for future reference |
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| 08:03.17 | anddam | "Is this microphone working?" |
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| 08:04.53 | anddam | ok :-) |
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| 08:05.37 | anddam | I didn't read anything for like six minutes and that's weird for such a high traffic chan, even considering the CDT time |
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| 08:07.21 | anddam | how do I search packages starting with "ruby" using aptitude? |
| 08:07.38 | anddam | 'search ~nruby' returns names containing "ruby" |
| 08:07.52 | anddam | I'd like sort of "^ruby.*" |
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| 08:10.11 | X4Fly | ^ruby should be sufficient |
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| 08:11.29 | anddam | X4Fly: my aptitude-foo is weak, I barely remember a few of the ~ options, I didn't know it supported regexp syntax too |
| 08:11.33 | anddam | thanks |
| 08:11.58 | anddam | aptitude-fu* |
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| 08:14.41 | anddam | (geez, typo on jokesâ¦) |
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| 08:17.47 | sephii | How can I use a variable set at the start of my line? I tried "DEBIAN_PRIORITY=low echo $DEBIAN_PRIORITY" but I don't get anything... any idea? |
| 08:18.04 | kansas_slim | jelly-home: thank you. i'm aiming at rdiff but thought there'd be a general rule. i'm leaning towards stacking all incremental BU and keep the diff.BUs seperate. any opinion on that? |
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| 08:19.04 | jelly-home | again, actual behaviour (and even terminology) depends on the tool |
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| 08:19.21 | jelly-home | but incrementals have to be based off _something_ |
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| 08:36.21 | eni23 | hello at all. a question: is there a way to work with access-databases in debian whitout an virtual windows and co? would also be ok to export to mysql.main prob is the mdb-db is really big and have some tables with >5million datasets |
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| 08:37.37 | eni23 | and PLEASE dont tell me access is crappy. i know that. but get the data from my university in mdb-format i cant tell them to use something cooler |
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| 08:37.56 | jelly-home | eni23: apt-cache search mdb access |
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| 08:41.52 | eni23 | jelly-home: k. thanks. but tried mdbtools it stops exporting when it reaches the 1st million dataset |
| 08:43.07 | eni23 | and need some queries too. seems that mdbtools dont support them |
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| 08:48.52 | eni23 | i think i have to use virtualbox and a pirated access. they dont leave me another choice. |
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| 08:51.39 | ebzzry | What is the recommended Debian release for laptops, used mainly for software development? |
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| 08:52.54 | babilen | ebzzry: The recommended release is Debian stable/Squeeze/6.0.2 |
| 08:53.05 | eni23 | ebzzry: im using testing. |
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| 08:53.20 | eni23 | depends on what you wanna develop |
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| 08:53.50 | ebzzry | I've been using testing for the past years. I'm trying to get more input from other people. |
| 08:54.02 | ebzzry | babilen: the trouble with it is old software, unless one uses backports |
| 08:54.15 | themill | ebzzry: so use backports. Old just means better tested, btw. |
| 08:54.55 | ebzzry | What http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html suggests, although not directly about software development on laptops, using unstable. |
| 08:55.05 | eni23 | ebzzry: imho the problem with stable is newer softfare and depencies. i used stable and have to recompile nearly the whole system for some things :( |
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| 08:55.25 | babilen | ebzzry: If you have been using testing for the past years, you are more than aware of the implications of your choice. I, personally, track sid, but wouldn't recommend it. The only *release* that is recommendable right now is the latest (squeeze). Please note that you can use backports for a plethora of software or even create your own relatively easily. But the decision is yours :) |
| 08:56.32 | ebzzry | eni23: I have experienced that, too. |
| 08:56.53 | ebzzry | babilen: Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm curious to know if the scenario has changed significantly, recently. |
| 08:57.08 | themill | squeeze is a lot less broken than testing/unstable at the moment... |
| 08:58.03 | themill | (1700 fewer release-critical bugs... I'll take that over teh shiny any day) |
| 08:58.14 | eni23 | ebzzry: jup the depency hell ;) if you develop in c/c++ and work together with oter people that using other distros (eg fedora) its not so cool to use stable. |
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| 08:58.57 | ebzzry | themill: what is squeeze nowadays, stable? |
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| 08:59.31 | ebzzry | For server deployment, I'd use stable. No questions asked. |
| 08:59.33 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 08:59.38 | fasta | I installed texmacs, but when I start texmacs, I get exec: 33: texmacs.bin: not found. |
| 09:00.00 | fasta | (Using Squeeze.) |
| 09:00.07 | themill | ebzzry: most people run stable. If you want most people to be able to run whatever code you're developing, you also need to run stable. |
| 09:00.22 | ebzzry | themill: OK |
| 09:00.51 | ebzzry | I'm curious, is anybody using unstable as their main system? |
| 09:00.59 | fasta | ebzzry: I did for a long time. |
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| 09:01.08 | eni23 | themill: or just link static and give the bin's |
| 09:01.16 | eni23 | ebzzry: me too |
| 09:01.19 | man_in_shack | has anyone here done web apps in python? |
| 09:01.24 | fasta | eni23: that doesn't always work. |
| 09:01.30 | man_in_shack | so far, i've got nginx + gunicorn + my app/script |
| 09:01.32 | eni23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.49 | man_in_shack | but it seems like it waits until the script has ended before sending data to client |
| 09:01.52 | ebzzry | hmm |
| 09:01.55 | babilen | man_in_shack: I am sure you find more people in #python, #pylons and #django and the respective channels for flask, bottle, ... |
| 09:02.08 | eni23 | eni23: but my py-webapps are a webserver too |
| 09:02.20 | ebzzry | Oh, well. I'll just hit it and see what works. |
| 09:02.31 | eni23 | fasta: um i know that :) |
| 09:02.43 | man_in_shack | #python couldn't tell me if gunicorn/nginx will send to client before the app has ended |
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| 09:03.04 | man_in_shack | eni23: it's not cherrypy, is it? |
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| 09:03.53 | eni23 | man_in_shack: no just basehttpserver. you could do alot of cool things with that |
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| 09:04.01 | man_in_shack | yeah |
| 09:04.30 | man_in_shack | only snag if i wrote a base/simplehttpserver is i'd have to implement cgi support for php |
| 09:04.41 | man_in_shack | or have python webapp and nginx+php on separate ports |
| 09:04.59 | man_in_shack | though nginx does proxying, so maybe that could work |
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| 09:05.05 | eni23 | man_in_shack: php in basehttpserver is like 10 lines of code :) |
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| 09:05.18 | man_in_shack | hmm |
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| 09:06.38 | man_in_shack | i could possibly get nginx to forward to a python webapp server |
| 09:06.38 | eni23 | there is a cgi module for that just google |
| 09:06.51 | man_in_shack | for .py files |
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| 09:07.25 | man_in_shack | instead of forwarding to gunicorn |
| 09:07.31 | eni23 | eni23: the quick n dirrrrrty php-python soulution is os.system("php -r yourfile.php"); |
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| 09:08.55 | man_in_shack | i feel like if i'd do that, and end up wanting to implement it in production, that i'd run the risk of having everything handled by a single thread |
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| 09:10.14 | man_in_shack | another possibility is i use apache + mod_wsgi, i guess |
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| 09:10.43 | man_in_shack | eni23: why are you talking to yourself? |
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| 09:12.46 | eni23 | man_in_shack: im crazy ;) no just make a fail. i think you should give apache a chance |
| 09:13.10 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 09:13.15 | man_in_shack | i was trying to avoid the bloat of apache |
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| 09:13.22 | man_in_shack | but that's ok |
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| 09:14.05 | xro | Hi, i would like to monitor a router with nagios... i know that i can use check_snmp -H 1 x.x.x.x -C public -o ifOperStatus.NUM -r 1 -m RFC1213-MIB |
| 09:14.05 | xro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:15.46 | babilen | xro: I'd recommend asking in #nagios too |
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| 09:16.08 | xro | babilen ok |
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| 09:23.45 | man_in_shack | w00t |
| 09:23.49 | man_in_shack | thanks eni23 |
| 09:24.02 | man_in_shack | working nicely with apache + mod_wsgi now :) |
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| 09:24.36 | mark76 | Is there any way to update iceape in Squeeze/ |
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| 09:27.56 | nkuttler | man_in_shack: fwiw, i have nginx in front everything else. just set it up as reverse proxy with the right headers |
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| 09:32.12 | miko | Hello |
| 09:32.49 | miko | I have a stability problem with the libflashplayer plugin on a debian squeeze 64 bits |
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| 09:33.04 | man_in_shack | miko: don't we all? :P |
| 09:33.16 | miko | An old (10.3.d162) works fairly well |
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| 09:33.46 | miko | The new 11.0d2 crashes iceweasel every time |
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| 09:34.17 | miko | Does other people experience this behavior or did I do a mistake ? |
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| 09:36.24 | gnarface | testing 1 2 3 |
| 09:36.59 | amphi | !test |
| 09:36.59 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 09:37.17 | simonlnu | miko: something wrong with using the 10.x version? |
| 09:37.44 | MrWax | Ok. Does anyone know how come that when I add a site in ISPconfig, only www.domain.com works and not domain.com ? |
| 09:38.12 | Kasreyn | i get a lot of these at boot. i know they come from udev but how do i make udev ignore /dev/mtdblock?: "end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock1, sector 128" |
| 09:38.46 | simonlnu | MrWax: not supported here |
| 09:38.48 | miko | simonlu : no, I was just wondering, as the 10.x is no more available on the adobe site |
| 09:39.58 | simonlnu | uh, yes it is |
| 09:40.01 | Kasreyn | it's weird because it should already be ignored. it's already in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules: KERNEL=="fd[0-9]*|mtd[0-9]*|mtdblock[0-9]*|nbd[0-9]*|gnbd[0-9]*|dm-[0-9]*|md[0-9]*|btibm[0-9]*", GOTO="persistent_storage_end" |
| 09:40.08 | simonlnu | i just downloaded the new one |
| 09:40.31 | simonlnu | miko: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ |
| 09:40.51 | simonlnu | google-fu is weak... |
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| 09:43.34 | miko | simonlnu: this url leads me to the 32 bits version, not the 64 bits for which I just found the 11.0d2 version |
| 09:44.00 | simonlnu | ok... |
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| 09:45.09 | flokuehn | hi. anybody around has pmacct version 0.14.x in use? |
| 09:45.29 | chomwitt | alt-shift keyboard layout changer from where can i change it? |
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| 09:49.27 | lol37 | hi |
| 09:49.39 | miko | Kayreyn : try to save persistent-storage-rules elsewhere and to suppress it : I guess it will be recreated with the new rules |
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| 09:49.58 | lol37 | i'm on debian testing and my PATH is messed up |
| 09:50.12 | lol37 | init isn't found as root also some commands |
| 09:50.24 | simonlnu | so fix it |
| 09:50.32 | lol37 | i must do it always |
| 09:50.34 | lol37 | when booting |
| 09:50.38 | lol37 | or closing a terminal session |
| 09:50.50 | lol37 | with the export thing |
| 09:51.08 | miko | lol37 user PATH ? or root PATH ? |
| 09:51.08 | jelly | lol37: which debian release? how do you become root? |
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| 09:51.18 | lol37 | with sudo |
| 09:51.30 | simonlnu | that's not fixing it. you put it in places like /etc/profile or such, and user shell rcs |
| 09:51.36 | jelly | lol37: what is the exact command you use |
| 09:51.46 | lol37 | sam@debian:~$ sudo init |
| 09:51.53 | lol37 | sam@debian:~$ sudo init |
| 09:51.56 | lol37 | argh |
| 09:52.01 | lol37 | sudo: init: command not found |
| 09:52.29 | miko | lol37 : ??????? What do you want to do ? |
| 09:52.33 | lol37 | i must export with export PATH:"$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin" |
| 09:52.39 | lol37 | then it works |
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| 09:53.00 | lol37 | a package update messed up my PATH dunno how |
| 09:53.20 | nsadmin | export... with export... |
| 09:53.24 | nsadmin | makes sense! |
| 09:53.32 | miko | That is normal : when you sudo you keep your user PATH which does not contains sbin |
| 09:53.53 | lol37 | why it worked by the past |
| 09:53.57 | lol37 | with the same command |
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| 09:54.15 | simonlnu | because they removed the sbin components |
| 09:54.18 | miko | sudo allow you to use root command, not to become root such as using su - root |
| 09:55.05 | lol37 | does someone understand this condition |
| 09:55.07 | lol37 | if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; |
| 09:55.29 | simonlnu | there's an assumption that if you're able to make a trivial fix to your own PATH, and understand the implications, etc., then you should be able to handle sudo. |
| 09:55.38 | simonlnu | or understand shell snippets... |
| 09:55.52 | miko | lol37 May be I am wrong.... |
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| 09:56.14 | nsadmin | lol37: man id, look for -u |
| 09:56.24 | nsadmin | what does it say it does? |
| 09:56.24 | lol37 | its 1000 as sam |
| 09:56.28 | lol37 | 0 as sudo id -u |
| 09:56.34 | lol37 | so it should work |
| 09:56.39 | lol37 | i dont have to edit anything |
| 09:57.12 | miko | lol37 try sudo echo $PATH, then sudo bash and echo $PATH : you will see the difference |
| 09:57.49 | lol37 | as sudo |
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| 09:58.04 | lol37 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.05 | nsadmin | put a space first |
| 09:58.12 | lol37 | sbin is missing |
| 09:58.15 | nsadmin | oh you did exactly that |
| 09:58.17 | miko | lol37 : make an alias exporting the PATH and calling sudo |
| 09:59.22 | lol37 | damn sudo doesn't anymore take in account my profile file |
| 09:59.36 | nsadmin | maybe it never did that |
| 09:59.43 | lol37 | no |
| 09:59.49 | lol37 | as i said it worked well |
| 09:59.50 | nsadmin | never read that file that is |
| 09:59.52 | lol37 | before |
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| 10:01.05 | nsadmin | what is it you're trying to do exactly? |
| 10:01.27 | NekawA | I don't see how the path is affecting the user id |
| 10:01.38 | nsadmin | it's probably not |
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| 10:01.48 | nsadmin | what it's affecting is what bins he can run |
| 10:02.33 | nsadmin | lol37, and in any case, scripts that are to run as root should ALWAYS call commands using their full path |
| 10:02.35 | NekawA | oh, i thought it was something about the id -u thing |
| 10:02.54 | nsadmin | probably that thing is working fine |
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| 10:03.07 | cire_work | I have set directory "upload" to "drwxrwsr-x 2 root upload". touching a file sets correct group (upload), but when uploading via php I get www-data:www-data. Do you know why is this? |
| 10:03.25 | nsadmin | id is one of the commands you should call by its full path |
| 10:03.26 | nsadmin | so |
| 10:03.46 | NekawA | thats the user the webserver is running as |
| 10:03.58 | themill | !dbugs 639841 |
| 10:04.03 | dpkg | #639841:N[sudo] sudo: secure_path change needs a NEWS entry (); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:48:02 UTC [] |
| 10:04.25 | nsadmin | that line you asked about before, should read: if [ ``/usr/bin/id`` -eq 0 ] |
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| 10:04.46 | themill | lol37: ^^ see that bug. You should have updated your sudoers config file as prompted by the last sudo upgrade. |
| 10:04.55 | nsadmin | and ALL other commands in that script need to be called by their full path |
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| 10:05.13 | nsadmin | or never run it as root |
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| 10:05.55 | NekawA | hmm..would there be a way to make one init script start after the other |
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| 10:06.20 | simonlnu | LSB headers |
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| 10:06.45 | NekawA | they're like S01 S02 it seems like they start in runlevel order but in the runlevel its alphabetical |
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| 10:07.40 | fasta | Is ghostview not packaged in Debian? |
| 10:07.49 | fasta | apt-file search bin/ghostview => nothing |
| 10:07.58 | sep | cire_work, I think perhaps php uploads to a temp file. and them move the file. |
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| 10:08.20 | sep | cire_work, so the file is not created there. and the sticky group is not used |
| 10:08.34 | cire_work | NekawA, I know that www-data is the user apache runs on, but I have set group id flag, so it sould get www-data:upload. (like when touching it as root, it gets root:upload) |
| 10:08.40 | cire_work | sorry |
| 10:08.43 | cire_work | I was too slow |
| 10:08.47 | fasta | It appears you call it gv. |
| 10:08.55 | cire_work | sep: good hint |
| 10:09.02 | cire_work | I will have a look how it works internally |
| 10:09.27 | themill | fasta: gv |
| 10:09.44 | NekawA | i'm just saying i've changed the user that the webserver runs with, and the file ownership creation was changed as well |
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| 10:10.18 | nsadmin | doesn 't gostview normally build as gv? |
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| 10:10.35 | nsadmin | in all dists that is |
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| 10:10.47 | nsadmin | and also distless |
| 10:10.47 | fasta | themill: but TexMacs is packaged to look for ghostview. |
| 10:11.03 | nsadmin | oh... hmm |
| 10:11.06 | themill | fasta: in what way? |
| 10:11.06 | nsadmin | you can link it |
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| 10:11.25 | fasta | themill: when you click on 'preview', it wants to start ghostview, not gv. |
| 10:11.50 | fasta | themill: never mind. |
| 10:11.57 | fasta | themill: it appears to work now. |
| 10:12.00 | nsadmin | when you say "TexJacs is packaged to ..." how do you define "packaged"? |
| 10:12.35 | nsadmin | TexMacs |
| 10:13.48 | nsadmin | it probably tries several possibilities, and the last one (which is in the error message) tries "ghostview" |
| 10:14.03 | cire_work | NekawA, sorry, I thought you had been talking to me ;) |
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| 10:21.19 | themill | dpkg, sudo path is <reply>As of sudo version 1.8.2 (wheezy/sid), sudo does not include /usr/sbin and /sbin in the PATH. You must set secure_path in /etc/sudoers (as dpkg prompted during the upgrade); see bug #639841: Defaults secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" |
| 10:21.20 | dpkg | okay, themill |
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| 10:27.13 | lol37 | ha |
| 10:27.19 | lol37 | it works when root |
| 10:27.27 | lol37 | but not with sudo command |
| 10:27.35 | lol37 | how can i update my sudoers file ? |
| 10:27.42 | themill | visudo |
| 10:28.03 | lol37 | i dont like vi |
| 10:28.07 | lol37 | isnt sudoedit ? |
| 10:28.11 | lol37 | btw i must go |
| 10:28.13 | lol37 | cya |
| 10:29.36 | themill | lol37: no, it's visudo and it obeys your preferred editor configuration. These things have man pages. |
| 10:30.12 | RichiH | is there any way to designate important/non-important user space processes to have OOM kill the non-critical ones first? |
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| 10:30.26 | RichiH | yes, this is a fringe case, but we just ran into it |
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| 10:31.30 | nsadmin | how many fringes can you put in a case? |
| 10:32.41 | nsadmin | maybe you would make your programs put metadata in the process and write something that can read it |
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| 10:37.48 | gelian | I have a problem with starting xorg via "startx" on a tty in oldstable. "startx" outputs this: http://pastebin.com/nqL5RGiT while Xorg.0.log looks like this: http://pastebin.com/bYq1SHMP ... I see no obvious errors, and the screen just hangs at the nVidia logo. I tried with the "vesa" drivers instead, and then it just goes black. No mouse, not turning off... Just black. And still no errors. Help? |
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| 10:38.41 | gelian | I reduced my ".xsession" to only do "exec gnome-session" |
| 10:38.42 | gelian | no change |
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| 10:39.20 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: vfat |
| 10:39.20 | dpkg | methinks vfat is a very fat 32-bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for information on getting write access for regular users, ask me about <vfatrw>, or you should not be using this filesystem unless Windows needs to read it. |
| 10:39.49 | DelphiWorld | so vfat is fat32 right ? |
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| 10:40.29 | DelphiWorld | i did mkfs.vfat and i got: vcs:~# m kf s vf at / d ev/ s d a1 |
| 10:40.29 | DelphiWorld | mkfs.vfat 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010) |
| 10:40.29 | DelphiWorld | mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing FAT |
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| 10:41.00 | DelphiWorld | and mkfs.ntfs is not working |
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| 10:42.23 | DelphiWorld | anyone? |
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| 10:42.46 | gelian | DelphiWorld: just format it on a windows machine? |
| 10:43.06 | DelphiWorld | gelian: i think is realy true. let me go up and unplug it. |
| 10:43.19 | DelphiWorld | brb gelian is one flour away up from me |
| 10:43.55 | anddam | are you guys cooking? |
| 10:44.24 | flower | arent u? |
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| 10:45.09 | anddam | I am not, I was referring to the "flour" |
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| 10:46.41 | gelian | hey, at least he's trying |
| 10:47.08 | gelian | beats the ones who come in here and start babbling away in their own language, expecting the whole world to understand |
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| 10:47.36 | anddam | ;-) |
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| 10:50.30 | versuchsanstalt | which one is the right architecture for a thinkpad t42p with a Pentium M (Dothan)? ( http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T42p ) |
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| 10:53.01 | aaket504 | i686 I think |
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| 10:54.37 | nkuttler | versuchsanstalt: i686 |
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| 10:54.54 | gelian | argh! i really hate the black xorg screen |
| 10:54.57 | gelian | give me a damn error |
| 10:54.58 | gelian | :( |
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| 10:55.12 | versuchsanstalt | aaket504, nkuttler: thank you. |
| 10:55.14 | nkuttler | gelian: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:55.26 | gelian | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/bYq1SHMP |
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| 10:55.44 | nkuttler | gelian: well read it, or grep it for EE before you pastebin |
| 10:55.52 | gelian | nkuttler: did, and did |
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| 10:56.10 | frold | I have a debian 5 webserver - howto increase the allowed limit of files sent via SMTP? Google accept 20mb or so - my server will only sent files with a max size of 7mb |
| 10:56.24 | gelian | nkuttler: why do you think i'm going insane here. there's no error in it. it just hangs there |
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| 10:56.57 | gelian | nkuttler: been trying "nvidia", "nv" and "vesa". nv and vesa hang at a black screen, nvidia hangs on the nvidia logo |
| 10:57.10 | nkuttler | gelian: good luck |
| 10:57.30 | gelian | nkuttler: yeah, thanks. |
| 10:57.39 | gelian | been googling all day. all i find is crap :( |
| 10:57.50 | nkuttler | gelian: are you sure the card is ok? |
| 10:58.06 | gelian | nkuttler: it worked in windows. should be alright. |
| 10:58.07 | anddam | gelian: are nvidia modules loaded when you try vesa or the opensource driver? |
| 10:58.18 | nkuttler | right, you have to blacklist them |
| 10:58.29 | gelian | anddam: they weren't even installed when i first tried vesa |
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| 10:58.46 | gelian | installed nvidia modules to try and fix the black screen |
| 10:59.48 | anddam | gelian: what happens if you try to start an X app when the screen is black? |
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| 11:00.11 | anddam | like startx, get black screen, go to virtual console and start xterm -display :0 |
| 11:00.33 | Kasreyn | how do i make udev ignore /dev/mtdblock? i just want massive spam of errors gone: "end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock1"? it's weird because it should already be ignored. this is already defined in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules: KERNEL=="fd[0-9]*|mtd[0-9]*|mtdblock[0-9]*|nbd[0-9]*|gnbd[0-9]*|dm-[0-9]*|md[0-9]*|btibm[0-9]*", GOTO="persistent_storage_end" |
| 11:00.38 | aaket504 | versuchsanstalt: no problem |
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| 11:01.51 | miko | kasreyn: are you sure the spam comes from udev ? |
| 11:02.12 | Kasreyn | miko: i apt-get remove udev and that stops the messages |
| 11:02.57 | Kasreyn | but yeah it might not be configurable. udev does scan all devices it finds |
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| 11:05.10 | miko | kaysren : I am not a guru on udev : what is the rule supposed to do ? |
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| 11:07.56 | Kasreyn | miko: persistent_storage_end is a label at end of the rule. meaning it ignores the device. |
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| 11:09.48 | Kasreyn | but i mean the errors could be from udev at an earlier stage. maybe you'd have to patch udev and libudev binaries to remove them |
| 11:10.34 | aidalgol | Why is Guile2 still not in Debian? |
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| 11:12.25 | miko | kasreyn : Is there mtd devices on the board : if not, a solution could be to blacklist the module. |
| 11:13.17 | Kasreyn | miko: there is but i don't care about it. booting from SD on a SheevaPlug |
| 11:13.57 | Kasreyn | it's not a module i don't think, it's kernel builtin |
| 11:14.03 | Kasreyn | can i still disable it? |
| 11:15.28 | miko | Kaysreyn : I am trying to understand the use of GOTO : from what I understand it does not forbid the scan of the device : it just says "if found, do nothing" (if persistent_storage_end is a label) |
| 11:15.55 | miko | Kaysren : if it is built in, no possibility to disable it |
| 11:16.29 | Kasreyn | miko: yeah that's probably correct |
| 11:16.37 | miko | But.... what happens if you remove mtd[0-9], mtd.... from the rule ? |
| 11:16.39 | Kasreyn | can't prevent udev from scanning |
| 11:16.51 | Kasreyn | i'll try |
| 11:17.37 | StephenS | can someone tell me how to unistall/disable dhcp ? |
| 11:18.02 | miko | StephenS : you can remove the service. |
| 11:18.03 | StephenS | I installed yesterday debian and Its installed only stupid dhcp, I want to unistall it so in boot select mode, to not be showed to choose, to be inbsatntly choosed windows 7 thanks |
| 11:18.55 | filePeter | StephenS: Do you really mean dhcp? |
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| 11:19.23 | StephenS | yes I do |
| 11:19.31 | StephenS | from boot sector and from everywhere |
| 11:19.37 | StephenS | i "installed" debian on E:\ |
| 11:19.45 | StephenS | I reformated E:\ and dhcp is still in there |
| 11:19.55 | petern_ | sounds like you are talking about a boot loader. dhcp is a network configuration system. |
| 11:20.00 | miko | debian E:\ ???? |
| 11:20.02 | filePeter | StephenS: There is no E: in debian annymmore... |
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| 11:20.37 | filePeter | StephenS: Do you want your bootloader to let you choose between windows and debian!? |
| 11:20.39 | StephenS | filePeter I never saw nothing from debian |
| 11:20.45 | StephenS | I want to disable it |
| 11:20.48 | fasta | According to Windows people E: corresponds to a partition. |
| 11:20.55 | miko | StephenS : You want to uninstall Debian |
| 11:21.02 | StephenS | yes, how to do it? |
| 11:21.04 | fasta | They say it as if that is a univerally recognized thing. |
| 11:21.07 | StephenS | I cant even access debian |
| 11:21.15 | fasta | That's OK, but it is just wrong. |
| 11:21.16 | miko | This is something to do from windows |
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| 11:21.31 | StephenS | how? |
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| 11:21.35 | petern_ | get windows to reinstall its mbr |
| 11:21.37 | filePeter | StephenS: Then something went wrong with installing the bootloader.. |
| 11:21.44 | siyb | which tools would you recommend for creating images of an existing debian installation? |
| 11:21.46 | fasta | StephenS: 'uninstalling' Debian amounts to writing a new ntfs file system to what you call E:. |
| 11:21.48 | miko | May be not the best channel to ask this question ? |
| 11:21.51 | siyb | except for dd |
| 11:21.52 | petern_ | that will remove the *grub* (usually) boot loader |
| 11:21.56 | petern_ | nothing to do with, say, dhcp... |
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| 11:22.23 | StephenS | what to do now? |
| 11:22.24 | filePeter | petern_: If he does not see anything of debian, there might be no grub... |
| 11:22.33 | StephenS | no |
| 11:22.39 | filePeter | StephenS: does it ask you what OS to start? |
| 11:22.40 | StephenS | grub loader is on default selected on Yes |
| 11:22.42 | StephenS | and I confirmed it |
| 11:22.45 | StephenS | yes |
| 11:22.47 | StephenS | I have |
| 11:22.48 | StephenS | Linux 212876 |
| 11:22.52 | StephenS | Lunux 2197367826 recovery mode |
| 11:22.54 | StephenS | and windows 7 |
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| 11:22.59 | StephenS | Im currently on windows 7 |
| 11:23.18 | filePeter | StephenS: what if you choose linuxà |
| 11:23.21 | filePeter | StephenS: what if you choose linux? |
| 11:23.28 | miko | Stephens : There might be something in Windows 7 allowing you to fix the MBR |
| 11:23.42 | StephenS | if I use linux |
| 11:23.47 | StephenS | then its loading something |
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| 11:23.54 | StephenS | and then I see dhcp0: username: |
| 11:23.56 | miko | Stephens (assuming you want to throw away linux) |
| 11:24.13 | StephenS | yes |
| 11:24.16 | StephenS | or to fix debian to work |
| 11:24.22 | Kasreyn | miko: interesting. i still get the error but different error if i change it so SUBSYSTEM=="block", GOTO="persistent_storage_end" |
| 11:24.33 | StephenS | I dont know why is so bif dealk installing debian, I never had a problems with ubuntu :) |
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| 11:24.49 | filePeter | StephenS: did you set your hostname to dhcp0??? Can you type in your username and log in? |
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| 11:25.41 | AlexC_ | wc |
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| 11:25.47 | miko | Kasreyn : I am pretty sure that something in your rules probe the mdtdevice |
| 11:25.57 | StephenS | filePeter i can login |
| 11:26.03 | StephenS | and after login i only see stefan@dhcp: |
| 11:26.09 | StephenS | when I do: su - root |
| 11:26.20 | StephenS | I login with root pw but thats it, no envirmonet no debian, nothing |
| 11:26.22 | StephenS | only dhcp |
| 11:26.49 | filePeter | StephenS: Great! - Why did you set your computer's name to dhcp? - Anyway! You have installed debian! |
| 11:26.53 | coolguy4 | I was playing around with hot-swapping SATA drives and I accidentally typed: #echo 1 > /sys/block/sda/device/delete . And /dev/sda is where my root filesystem was located. So basically my system was unusable, so I did the magic sysreq REISUB and after coming back I'm finding that startx no longer works. |
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| 11:27.24 | filePeter | StephenS: Forget dhcp. thatâs your computername.. |
| 11:27.26 | miko | Stephen : It looks like you have installed a minimal debian distribution. |
| 11:27.36 | StephenS | I have a dvd with 4Gb of it |
| 11:27.41 | StephenS | I picked up the biggest one |
| 11:27.44 | coolguy4 | I'm thinking that there must be some corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem |
| 11:27.48 | StephenS | how come I have the minimal distro? |
| 11:27.59 | StephenS | Btw I didnt have t ochoose which envirment to have, is that a problem? |
| 11:28.05 | filePeter | StephenS: What are you missing? |
| 11:28.19 | filePeter | StephenS: You mean desktopenvironment, righT? |
| 11:28.22 | StephenS | now I dont have an opion to install debian on largest free distro |
| 11:28.23 | StephenS | YES |
| 11:28.27 | StephenS | gnome/kde wont install |
| 11:28.32 | StephenS | 99% and stuck for 4 hours |
| 11:28.39 | StephenS | when I did apt-get install gnome |
| 11:28.51 | filePeter | StephenS: then say desktopenvironment not environment thatâs bash in that scope1 |
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| 11:29.01 | filePeter | StephenS: anyhow, what you see is debian... |
| 11:29.21 | filePeter | StephenS: Google how to install kde on debian. |
| 11:29.23 | Kasreyn | miko: there's also /lib/udev/rules.d/75-probe_mtd.rules it comes from squeeze udev package |
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| 11:29.30 | filePeter | or r gnome |
| 11:29.41 | StephenS | filePeter are u listeinng to me? |
| 11:29.44 | StephenS | its not workingh |
| 11:29.50 | Kasreyn | miko: i havn't tried commenting out both of them though |
| 11:29.54 | StephenS | and evey 2 mins its says press enter and some crap |
| 11:30.01 | StephenS | I want to delete dhcp how to do? |
| 11:30.34 | filePeter | StephenS: We cannot help you if you are not telling whats wrong. "press enter and some crap" is not a proper description.. |
| 11:31.09 | miko | Kayreyn : I guess you have to find every reference to mtd devices in the rules and to comment/remove them. |
| 11:31.21 | filePeter | StephenS: you do NOT want to deinstall dhcp. That is soething very different. You acidentally called you debian "dhcp" |
| 11:31.24 | StephenS | I want to delete dhcp how to do? |
| 11:32.06 | filePeter | StephenS: dhcp is what you called your debian system |
| 11:32.17 | coolguy4 | when you see 'vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device' repeatedly in syslog, I take it that is just due to some superfluous definitions in xorg.conf |
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| 11:32.41 | filePeter | StephenS: Get you self a windows partitionmanager ant remove the linux partitions |
| 11:32.45 | miko | Kayreyn : from what I understant the GOTO rule skip all the remaining of the rule file : this does not forbid the scan of the mtd device if asked by the rule |
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| 11:33.01 | smv | *Free of charge engineering classes* - http://see.stanford.edu/ |
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| 11:33.20 | Kasreyn | miko: ok that makes sense. thanks for helping :) |
| 11:33.43 | miko | Kayreyn : you're welcome. And I learnt something. |
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| 11:34.31 | StephenS | the fact is I dont see no where |
| 11:34.32 | StephenS | etc/ |
| 11:34.37 | StephenS | neither in C D OR E |
| 11:35.08 | miko | StephenS : don't expect to see any linux stuff from Windows |
| 11:35.09 | djura-san | o/ |
| 11:35.58 | StephenS | ok I see thre partpation |
| 11:35.59 | StephenS | from windows |
| 11:36.04 | StephenS | that means linux partipations I dont se?E |
| 11:36.21 | miko | Stephens: I mean seeing something in the partition |
| 11:36.35 | StephenS | linux should be installed into E:\ |
| 11:36.39 | miko | Windows is unable to use a linux filesystem |
| 11:36.42 | StephenS | however after I reformated E dhcp is still there |
| 11:36.46 | StephenS | how you explain that? |
| 11:37.10 | miko | Are you confusing reformat and delete ? |
| 11:37.47 | StephenS | I use part manager now |
| 11:37.47 | miko | Sorry I badly read |
| 11:37.50 | StephenS | and I see ext3 and swap |
| 11:37.55 | StephenS | thats two whole part's for linux |
| 11:38.00 | miko | ok |
| 11:38.05 | StephenS | What I dont understand is why debian not works with gnome ? |
| 11:38.17 | miko | It looks like the installation fails |
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| 11:38.48 | miko | may be you should reinstall. I suggest to use the expert mode which is more easy to configure. |
| 11:39.08 | StephenS | I dont have expert mode |
| 11:39.23 | StephenS | I have: install | 64- bit install | graphical install | 64-bit graphical install |
| 11:39.33 | miko | Which install disk are you using ? |
| 11:39.35 | StephenS | in install menu, which to pick up? I picked up only "install" which I guess is 32 bit |
| 11:39.39 | StephenS | Debian |
| 11:39.48 | miko | network install ? |
| 11:39.56 | StephenS | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/multi-arch/iso-dvd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-amd64-source-DVD-1.iso |
| 11:40.00 | StephenS | I downloaded that |
| 11:40.16 | miko | No options in the menu ? |
| 11:40.28 | StephenS | there is. |
| 11:40.31 | StephenS | in install menu, which to pick up? I picked up only "install" which I guess is 32 bit |
| 11:40.33 | miko | sometime the expert mode is hidden in submenu |
| 11:40.37 | StephenS | BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) Â Razlog: (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 11:40.41 | StephenS | I have: install | 64- bit install | graphical install | 64-bit graphical install |
| 11:40.49 | StephenS | So when I tryu to install to pick expert mode? Whats the dif? |
| 11:41.17 | miko | No graphics and a lot of question allowing to finely tune the installation. |
| 11:41.29 | StephenS | ok |
| 11:41.35 | StephenS | Im going to disconnect |
| 11:41.45 | miko | No. |
| 11:42.08 | miko | Can you install a virtual box and try to install in it ? |
| 11:42.25 | miko | It is a good mean to train, before the actual installation. |
| 11:46.51 | Iridos | is there some mode of pgrep that I overlooked... something that simply gives me the same as ps aux some[p]rocess? |
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| 11:57.53 | Kasreyn | miko: "The OMAP3 boot ROM requires that that area be written with HW ECC. Linux uses SW ECC, so when it probes that partition at boot time it believes that the data is corrupt. These messages can be safely ignored, since Linux never needs to use the x-load partition." - http://old.nabble.com/i-o-errors-on-boot--td28352435.html#a28352435 |
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| 11:58.25 | Kasreyn | i believe uboot has this formatting on NAND |
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| 11:59.03 | Kasreyn | still the messages are annoying because they obscure other messages that are important to figure what goes wrong |
| 11:59.45 | Serjs | Hi guys, someone can help me with exim? |
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| 12:02.24 | Iridos | only if you ask the question someone can answer it... |
| 12:02.33 | test | hello |
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| 12:10.47 | miko | Kasreyn: I am currently learning to use ARM based board : I am not very competent with uboot: what do you mean by "uboot has this formatting on NAND" |
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| 12:14.54 | lol37 | hi again |
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| 12:15.29 | Kasreyn | miko: i'm just reading what other people have said. "The messages about "uncorrectable error" are from the kernel, since that first partition uses a different ECC scheme than the rest of the flash." - http://markmail.org/message/7b3xay5fbgo63xsr |
| 12:15.44 | lol37 | can someone could help me concerning configure sudo and PATH ? |
| 12:16.15 | Kasreyn | www.kernel.org seems unresponsive |
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| 12:16.59 | babilen | Kasreyn: Yes, they are performing some maintainence work. |
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| 12:17.59 | Kasreyn | babilen: rest of the day off \o/ ? |
| 12:18.04 | lol37 | as root : init => Usage: init [-e VAR[=VAL] ... |
| 12:18.17 | lol37 | as sudo : sudo: init: command not found |
| 12:18.17 | babilen | Kasreyn: heh |
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| 12:25.32 | lol37 | fixed, apt-get purge nano then reinstall it as root |
| 12:25.38 | lol37 | sudo i meant |
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| 12:26.30 | sephii | lol37: that's because you did an upgrade and didn't update your sudoers file |
| 12:27.04 | lol37 | does it update automatically ? |
| 12:27.08 | lol37 | or by hand ? |
| 12:27.11 | hostdream | hello, is a preseed file working for ubuntu is also working for debian ? |
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| 12:27.29 | daemonkeeper | Party. |
| 12:27.31 | daemonkeeper | *Partly |
| 12:27.49 | sephii | lol37: it's proposed by apt when you upgrade, but you can refuse to update it (like if you have local modifications) |
| 12:27.53 | daemonkeeper | I would not count on it. |
| 12:28.30 | hostdream | daemonkeeper : and about partition layer ? |
| 12:28.39 | lol37 | ok thanks :) |
| 12:29.25 | daemonkeeper | hostdream: Partition layer? |
| 12:29.41 | hostdream | daemonkeeper ok here's the problem I've : |
| 12:29.45 | hostdream | Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my preseed disk layout http://pastie.org/2496275 that doing a popup appearing during the install process and asking me if I'm ok to write to disk ? I really want to avoid that... :) |
| 12:30.05 | hostdream | it's a message I posted on #ubuntu but noone knows... I was wondering if it was valable for debian too |
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| 12:30.57 | daemonkeeper | Well, Ubuntu still uses the debian-installer (I think) so this very specific snippet is likely to work. |
| 12:31.25 | daemonkeeper | However there are parts which certainly won't work. |
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| 12:31.50 | hostdream | daemonkeeper : ok... so maybe do you have any clue about my problem ? I'd like to automate my install and each time the install process asks me if I want to write partition table... how can I avoid that ? |
| 12:32.25 | daemonkeeper | By preseeding the correct question, as you might know. |
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| 12:34.53 | hostdream | daemonkeeper : not sure to follow you :) |
| 12:35.35 | hostdream | daemonkeeper : what is the parameter I should use then ? because I thought it was the 3 last lines of my preseed that avoid the question during the install |
| 12:35.37 | daemonkeeper | You probably want to preseed" partman-partitioning partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label" |
| 12:36.10 | hostdream | daemonkeeper : I've already d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true |
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| 12:37.11 | miko | Kasreyn: it is possble to track the used rules with udev by the mean of the RUN action |
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| 12:37.50 | IdleOne | hostdream: the confirm part means "ask me if I am sure I want to do this." |
| 12:37.59 | daemonkeeper | There is "partman-partitioning partman-partitioning/confirm_new_label" too |
| 12:38.26 | IdleOne | you have it set to true so it will ask you to confirm (type yes) |
| 12:39.07 | hostdream | ok then those lines : |
| 12:39.09 | hostdream | d-i partman/confirm boolean true |
| 12:39.09 | hostdream | d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true |
| 12:39.11 | hostdream | should be : |
| 12:39.15 | hostdream | d-i partman/confirm boolean false |
| 12:39.15 | hostdream | d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean false |
| 12:39.16 | hostdream | right ? |
| 12:39.27 | daemonkeeper | Probably, yes. (Not tried) |
| 12:39.33 | IdleOne | as i understand it, yes. |
| 12:39.40 | IdleOne | haven't tried it either |
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| 12:40.10 | hostdream | ok I'm testing now, thanks |
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| 12:41.25 | hostdream | unfortunatelly it doesn't work... still have this popup asking if I want to write the partition table... |
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| 12:46.14 | KamZou | Hello, could someone help my with some questions about dhcp3-server plz ? |
| 12:46.33 | nakee | you better just ask the question |
| 12:47.17 | KamZou | Is the a way to store dhcp leases in a database or ldap to make the service really failover ? |
| 12:47.22 | KamZou | *there |
| 12:48.22 | petemc | isc dhcp server should be able to do failover |
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| 12:49.01 | KamZou | yes but if the #1 server fail, i want the 2Nd to keep IP reservations, and other configs ... |
| 12:49.17 | KamZou | that's why i'm wondering how to store / share dhcpd leases |
| 12:49.25 | petemc | and you have verified this doesnt happen? |
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| 12:49.31 | Kasreyn | miko: not sure what you mean exactly. but i have found just running blkid will list the same messages |
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| 12:49.37 | sep | KamZou, if you do mac reservations. you jsut do them equaly on both. if you do range's you must use dhcpd's failover feature |
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| 12:50.00 | sep | there is no "lease" when there is a reserveation |
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| 12:50.42 | sep | i have my reservations in a simple database. and a few lines of shellscript that regenerates dhcpd.conf.reservations on all dhcp servers when it's updated in the db |
| 12:51.16 | sep | but you can just as easy. have a master textfile. ans scp it out to the dhcp servers |
| 12:51.17 | sep | simple |
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| 12:51.44 | KamZou | ?? Does the DHCP can deal Reserved @IP (in the config file) when the concerned computer is offline (ip unused) ? |
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| 12:53.29 | sep | KamZou, if there is a mac reservation in dhcpd3. then there is a hardware mac paired with a ip address. if the machine is present or not is irrlevant |
| 12:53.47 | miko | Kasreyn: I guess that the kernel send the message when it is sollicited by udev : the problem is to identify which rule trigs the kernel : adding a RUN action echoing a simple message may help. |
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| 12:54.39 | KamZou | sep, so, if i correctly understand : if there is a reservation in my cfg file, the IP can't be allocated to another computer (even if the IP is free) ? |
| 12:55.14 | miko | Kasreyn: the behavior of blkdid is coherent : it uses a kernel service to examine the mtd device and the kernel module complains. |
| 12:55.27 | sep | KamZou, correct |
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| 12:59.00 | sep | KamZou, dhcpd have a failover feature, but it only cares about ranges. for reservations you must still define them in both config files |
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| 13:00.25 | Iridos | hm, is there a list what ubuntu release matches which debian release? There's 3rd-party .debs for ... intrepid and hardy and I just want to have a look, so not worth the effort of compiling it |
| 13:00.46 | gusto | hi |
| 13:00.53 | gusto | i have a very very interesting problem here |
| 13:01.19 | gusto | i downloaded a file and it is shown in rxvt as a normal file starting with a character |
| 13:01.35 | wols | Iridos:no list. but ubuntu takes sid and releases it 3 months or so later |
| 13:01.37 | gusto | now MC shows that it starts with a point, what would mean that its hidden |
| 13:01.45 | gusto | but it is not a point at all |
| 13:01.53 | wols | gusto: so what is the filename? |
| 13:01.55 | KamZou | okay sep , thanks for this already |
| 13:02.02 | gusto | well thats the interesting thing |
| 13:02.22 | gusto | it seems to be some non printable character |
| 13:02.37 | hostdream | Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my preseed disk layout http://pastie.org/2496275 that doing a popup appearing during the install process and asking me if I'm ok to write to disk ? I really want to avoid that... :) |
| 13:02.40 | gusto | Screen_Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg |
| 13:02.44 | gusto | w8 |
| 13:02.47 | gusto | Screen_ |
| 13:02.48 | gusto | hmm |
| 13:02.52 | gusto | what is that? |
| 13:03.02 | gusto | Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg should be the name |
| 13:03.23 | gusto | is there a way to let it list with non printables shown as a number? |
| 13:03.52 | gusto | look |
| 13:04.04 | gusto | -rw-r--r-- 1 vanessa vanessa 161K Sep 7 14:41 âªScreen_Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg |
| 13:04.07 | gusto | but |
| 13:04.16 | KamZou | sep, I have some range where i've no reservations, and where @IP are dynamically allocated to users, with a infinite lease-time; without @ reservations |
| 13:04.17 | Iridos | dpkg, release history |
| 13:04.17 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
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| 13:04.19 | gusto | ls "Screen_Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg" |
| 13:04.28 | gusto | ls: cannot access Screen_Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg: No such file or directory |
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| 13:04.56 | gusto | and xterm shows some ?at the beginning of the name |
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| 13:06.00 | wols | so now you know why |
| 13:06.20 | themill | gusto: ls has a -b option; shell globs are handy at this stage, as are tools like mc. |
| 13:07.08 | Iridos | oh... I should have just looked up their release history... that means everything on that page is pretty much outdated anyway |
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| 13:08.38 | gusto | themill: -b doesnt help |
| 13:08.55 | gusto | i am trying with --show-control-chars -qbN but all doesnt help |
| 13:09.18 | Iridos | gusto, you're not giving the correct name... -b should help, but more like in ls -b *Pitbull*jpg |
| 13:09.36 | themill | gusto: -q and -b probably don't go well with each other |
| 13:10.33 | gusto | well |
| 13:10.39 | gusto | hehe |
| 13:10.47 | gusto | -Q did help |
| 13:11.05 | Iridos | themill, that, too :) |
| 13:11.18 | gusto | it seems to be printing the character, so ... my problem seems to be that i should first get rid of UTF-8 in my terminal :-D |
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| 13:11.38 | StefanNET | hi |
| 13:12.16 | gusto | the problem is that the character is not visible |
| 13:12.32 | gusto | so with -Q i can at least manipulate the file ... like renaming it |
| 13:13.05 | themill | you can do that with globbing too. Or in mc |
| 13:13.11 | gusto | but i have to write it by myself because when i simply rename it to another file using the same text, the invisible character is still there |
| 13:13.23 | gusto | what is globbing? |
| 13:13.26 | StefanNET | HEY |
| 13:13.46 | StephenS|Debian | I finally installed gnome envirnoment gnome for debian :D |
| 13:14.07 | themill | gusto: mv ?Screen*jpg "A less silly name.jpg" |
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| 13:15.18 | StephenS|Debian | I have software center |
| 13:15.29 | StephenS|Debian | but I can not figure out how to install software from there |
| 13:16.50 | themill | StephenS|Debian: I'd guess very few people here have ever used software centre. Most use aptitude. |
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| 13:17.47 | StephenS|Debian | whats the dif between aptitude and apt-get ? |
| 13:17.52 | StephenS|Debian | I installed gnome with aptitude |
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| 13:18.09 | daemonkeeper | !why aptitude |
| 13:18.09 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Read the release notes and http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 13:18.14 | gusto | well seems to have solved it |
| 13:18.14 | StephenS|Debian | eve though terminal told me to insert a dvd squeeze debian edition |
| 13:18.31 | gusto | i first got rid of UTF-8 and exported LANG as ISO8859-1 |
| 13:18.37 | StephenS|Debian | hmm ok |
| 13:18.47 | StephenS|Debian | which client is the most simillar to mIRC for irc chat for linux? |
| 13:18.52 | gusto | and then i did say ls -Q and he printed: "\342\200\252Screen_Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony_R.A.J_.jpg1" |
| 13:19.03 | gusto | that were the fucking characters :-D |
| 13:19.23 | gusto | StephenS|Debian: Xchat? |
| 13:19.24 | HashNuke | I screwed up my /etc/sudoers file and now get syntax errors altho it looks right http://pastie.org/2497088 |
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| 13:20.39 | nkuttler | HashNuke: use visudo |
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| 13:21.03 | Stefan|xchat | o_O nice |
| 13:21.07 | HashNuke | nkuttler: I also tried editing and saving using visudo. No luck |
| 13:21.31 | HashNuke | nkuttler: I'm going to try it again. Just open up visudo sand save the file again. |
| 13:21.32 | Stefan|xchat | Linux is actually interesting |
| 13:22.10 | nkuttler | HashNuke: purge sudo, reinstall, always use visudo from now on |
| 13:22.11 | HashNuke | nkuttler: I set my $EDITOR to "vim" coz I wasn't comfortable with nano. |
| 13:22.58 | Stefan|xchat | uhm my font is lil bit small |
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| 13:23.21 | gusto | ok, i now renamed it using ??? ... but that still leaves the possibility that there could theoretically exist two files with the same name length but different non printable characters which do the difference between each other |
| 13:23.57 | gusto | so is there a question how to use this numbers in like MV, or RM commands? |
| 13:24.20 | gusto | because \342\200\252 doesnt work with MV for example |
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| 13:24.51 | Iridos | HashNuke, some weird but invisible characters? |
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| 13:25.41 | Iridos | I assume there's a user hashnuke and a group sudo... then this doesn't look overly complex |
| 13:26.01 | Stefan|xchat | my systsem have only 1 mb of free space |
| 13:26.13 | Stefan|xchat | however E:\ on windows have more then 100 Gb free |
| 13:26.15 | Stefan|xchat | how to merge it? |
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| 13:26.32 | Iridos | mine (pretty much default one) has an additional line: Defaults env_reset |
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| 13:27.23 | Stefan|xchat | hello? |
| 13:27.52 | hostdream | Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my preseed disk layout http://pastie.org/2496275 that doing a popup appearing during the install process and asking me if I'm ok to write to disk ? I really want to avoid that... :) |
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| 13:29.18 | Iridos | Stefan|xchat, "not". Assuming both partitions are on the same disk, you can resize partitions with gparted... make sure you have a backup of all your data before you do that, though |
| 13:29.34 | danilom | twidge: user error (Error from oauthRequest: "HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized") anyone can help? |
| 13:29.35 | Stefan|xchat | I dont have remote HDD though |
| 13:29.42 | Stefan|xchat | so I cant backup all my data |
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| 13:29.57 | anddam | hello |
| 13:30.23 | anddam | my sources.list has deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free is that kernel.org correct? |
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| 13:31.05 | anddam | this is a ready-to-use vps image but that fqdn doesn't even seem to exist |
| 13:31.07 | Stefan|xchat | it seems I need to reformat whole partpation and then to add an extra gb |
| 13:31.08 | Stefan|xchat | uh :( |
| 13:31.17 | Stefan|xchat | well at least I know how to install gnome, thanks for help[ |
| 13:31.22 | Iridos | anddam, probably, but kernel.org is down for maintenance today |
| 13:31.29 | anddam | ah so that's the point |
| 13:31.52 | anddam | but I can still replace it with debian.org, can't I? |
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| 13:33.10 | Iridos | dpkg, debian mirrors |
| 13:33.10 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <geo sources.list>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
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| 13:34.00 | gusto | is there a way how to set the name of a file by specifying only the inode? |
| 13:34.26 | gusto | that could be a problem, because there could be more of them, but when there is only one in a dir then it could work |
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| 13:37.24 | anddam | Iridos: thanks |
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| 13:37.37 | Iridos | yw |
| 13:39.22 | ic_johnsson | can someone help me set up lan interface on my debian server? |
| 13:40.19 | nkuttler | ic_johnsson: man interfaces |
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| 13:42.00 | ic_johnsson | nkuttler: I have read it. I successfully set up my eth1 device on LAN, but it can't reach internet, say 8.8.8.8 |
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| 13:43.22 | ic_johnsson | ping 8.8.8.8 gives me "connect: Network is unreachable" |
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| 13:45.47 | StephenS | yeh back to windowws :(\ |
| 13:47.17 | ic_johnsson | I remember there was a command which could show you which interfaces were configured and what netmask and some other useful info (not ifconfig, it gave me info in table format) anyone? |
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| 13:50.03 | jeddi | ic_johnsson: was it one of the things in the moreutils package? (i haven't see anything like what you speak of) |
| 13:51.03 | Iridos | ic_johnsson, look, if the interface is up with ifconfig, try to ping the router, check what route -n says |
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| 13:52.17 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: route -n gives me the network as "Destination", i.e. 192.168.0.0, what is it supposed to give? the router? |
| 13:52.39 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: also, gateway is 0.0.0.0, I remember I set this up before, how do I do that? |
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| 13:53.00 | Iridos | ic_johnsson, should give one line like: 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan1 |
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| 13:53.12 | Iridos | where 192.168.2.1 is the router in my case |
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| 13:53.51 | d1b | hi when using a system user -- should i use deluser--system? |
| 13:54.07 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: how do I set up new routes? |
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| 13:55.02 | Iridos | it should be setu up via /etc/network/interfaces ... (or via the network-manager in gnome or whatever you use to configure networking) |
| 13:55.11 | Iridos | you're not usually doing that yourself |
| 13:55.32 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: I have only debian core installed, no GUI |
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| 13:56.06 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: I've done it before, but we rearranges some servers at my offie, and I can't remember the commands. I can't find any guide telling me how to set up new routes, but I know there are some |
| 13:56.19 | Iridos | pastebin your interfaces file? |
| 13:56.44 | ic_johnsson | sure |
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| 13:58.44 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: http://pastebin.com/ij9UkaXS |
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| 13:59.56 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: I FOUND IT |
| 14:00.09 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: spelling "adress" in the interfaces config :D |
| 14:00.19 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: I would never have found it if you didn't ask me to paste it, thanks alot |
| 14:00.25 | Iridos | haha |
| 14:00.50 | Iridos | what is it? |
| 14:01.30 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: yes, it works now. Thanks for your time, really appreaciated |
| 14:01.31 | Iridos | hotgplug |
| 14:01.42 | Iridos | found it, too |
| 14:03.09 | Iridos | what I don't understand... why was the IP configured, but the route over the gateway was not? |
| 14:03.49 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: perheps because I did a "ifconfig eth1 add 192.168.10.25 netmask 255.255.255.0" |
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| 14:04.01 | Iridos | very probable |
| 14:04.06 | ic_johnsson | Iridos: I've typed alot of commands, so I don't really know |
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| 14:04.19 | ic_johnsson | but after this in the config and a reset from etc/init.d everything worked fined |
| 14:04.21 | ic_johnsson | fine* |
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| 14:05.24 | Iridos | you can also do the route manually with something like: route add default gw <ip_of_gateway> eth0 |
| 14:05.29 | Iridos | (but I had to look that up) |
| 14:05.45 | KamZou | How could i specify an allocation to 2 differents Networks with my dhcp3-server (I want to know how to specify a subnet to deal with a specific interface, and the other subnet with the other eth) plz ? |
| 14:06.56 | danilom | some console based for twitter that work? |
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| 14:23.07 | skilz | Anyway to password protect .tar? |
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| 14:23.26 | jeddi | skilz: mcrypt |
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| 14:28.30 | rascal999 | lenny here http://pastebin.com/0fpmzbhR |
| 14:28.34 | rascal999 | 5.0.7 |
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| 14:29.57 | rascal999 | sources.list http://pastebin.com/hvVYH8be |
| 14:29.58 | Kasreyn | miko: adding some echo to RUN is good idea. though i have found the messages are gone now that i mount my system on nfsroot. nfs is more suitable for rapid turnaround development/test anyway |
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| 14:30.59 | Kasreyn | miko: running the root from SD card is when you get those messages on SheevaPlug |
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| 14:34.35 | miko | Kasreyn: The SheevaPlug is a ARM board : I guess there is a system on it : does it send the same messages ? |
| 14:37.08 | somiaj | rascal999: give us the output of apt-cache policy xinetd in the pasatbin |
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| 14:44.48 | rascal999 | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/GfM5F8qd |
| 14:45.34 | skilz | http://gnome-look.org/ working for anyone? |
| 14:45.38 | themill | rascal999: you have some very very weird pinning in there. Why? |
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| 14:47.19 | somiaj | rascal999: seems like you have the package pinned at -1 which means don't install it. |
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| 14:48.32 | themill | rascal999: the contents of /etc/apt/preferences might be instructive. |
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| 14:49.14 | emery | Is gnome 3 available in the Debian repos (stable) ? |
| 14:49.52 | mike3 | guys, i'm trying to install ncurses-dev and i am getting the following error. libncurses5-dev: Depends: libncurses5 (= 5.7+20081213-1) but 5.7+20100313-4 is to be installed |
| 14:50.39 | emery | I believe it needs a newer version of libcruses |
| 14:50.44 | somiaj | emery: NO |
| 14:50.54 | emery | no what |
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| 14:51.10 | mike3 | i've tried to install that, but i get another error as well |
| 14:51.13 | somiaj | emery: and it won't be, I doubt anyone will backport gnome3 to squeeze. |
| 14:51.24 | themill | mike3: why are you mixing lenny and squeeze? |
| 14:51.25 | somiaj | emery: they will just let you upgrade to the new stable to get it |
| 14:51.39 | mike3 | themill: i'm trying to install an app from source |
| 14:51.48 | emery | what's the new stable ? |
| 14:51.52 | emery | wheezy ? |
| 14:51.59 | mike3 | i'm assuming the app is asking for lenny's libcurses? |
| 14:52.15 | themill | mike3: that's neither an answer to my question nor a reason why you'd be mixing lenny with squeeze... |
| 14:52.36 | mike3 | themill: I didn't realize one libcurses was from one version and the other was from the other version. |
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| 14:53.12 | mike3 | it makes sense however. it means the application isn't up to par... |
| 14:53.15 | somiaj | mike3: give us your sources.list please |
| 14:53.24 | Kasreyn | miko: that system is long gone. overwritten with debian :) |
| 14:53.26 | mike3 | it's not a source list. i'm building a package from source. |
| 14:53.42 | mike3 | but sure |
| 14:53.44 | mike3 | hold on |
| 14:53.55 | somiaj | mike3: you are trying to install ncurses-dev from source -- or trying to install that to complie the package you want. |
| 14:54.22 | miko | kaysreyn: and no backup to make test :-) oooooh. |
| 14:54.24 | mike3 | forget what i said. :) yes ncurses-dev.. my sources are showing lenny |
| 14:54.35 | mike3 | it appears they need to be adjusted to squeeze ... ? |
| 14:54.38 | themill | mike3: but you have packages from squeeze already. |
| 14:54.56 | themill | !show sources.list mike3 |
| 14:54.56 | somiaj | mike3: well please put it in the pastebin (just making sure it says lenny and not 'stable') |
| 14:54.57 | dpkg | mike3: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 14:55.10 | themill | mike3: please give us real output not predigested summaries |
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| 14:57.29 | mike3 | http://pastebin.com/gNA7SZR9 |
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| 14:57.44 | zach23 | I am running Debian Lenny and we passed all our security audit but it says we are running OpenSSL version <= 0.9.8p. They are right. What can I do to upgrade this within lenny? |
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| 14:58.48 | somiaj | zach23: you should really think about upgrading to squeeze, lennys security support wont' last to much longer (less than half a yaer) |
| 14:58.55 | themill | dpkg: tell mike3 about not available |
| 14:59.08 | themill | mike3: the output of that aptitude command dpkg just gave you would be handy too |
| 14:59.10 | somiaj | zach23: but you can look for lenny-backport (which won't hav esecurity updates) |
| 14:59.20 | zach23 | somiaj: I know - we are testing things to go to Squeeze (these are our app servers) - the db servers are already on Squeeze. But having said that... What are my options? |
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| 14:59.50 | themill | zach23: you need to differentiate between version numbers and real problems. remember that debian backports security fixes to stable. |
| 14:59.54 | somiaj | zach23: you can make your own backport, but you'll need a system set up to compile -- again you won't get security updates for the backport. |
| 15:00.03 | themill | dpkg: tell zach23 about security backports |
| 15:00.14 | themill | backporting openssl is not going to work out well |
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| 15:00.25 | zach23 | Right I know this - so in actuality I am running a secure version of OpenSSL |
| 15:00.32 | somiaj | zach23: and yes listen to themill -- the security hole they are talking about may be fixed despite the version number. |
| 15:01.31 | themill | zach23: we've had people recompile the same version of openssl as is currently shipped just with a different version number in the headers so get idiot security "auditors" to go away. |
| 15:01.34 | mike3 | themill: the list doesn't include ncurses-dev |
| 15:02.01 | themill | mike3: full output please.... |
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| 15:02.26 | rascal999 | themill: somiaj: thanks |
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| 15:05.27 | dashs | With default initscript sequencing, is there a way with the header to specify that one initscript service (not facility) be started after another? |
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| 15:08.08 | HashNuke | nkuttler: thanks! I got it working by re-installing sudo like you said. |
| 15:08.40 | themill | HashNuke: "adduser hashnuke sudo" is all you need to do to get back your permissive configuration that you had previously |
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| 15:09.10 | HashNuke | themill: nah that wasn't the problem. I had screwed up my sudoers file. |
| 15:10.40 | themill | HashNuke: yes I know. But one of your edits was to give your user all sudo rights. I'm just telling you how you can get back there. |
| 15:11.01 | HashNuke | themill: oh thanks! |
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| 15:11.24 | HashNuke | themill: I added it manually by visudo tho. anywhere I can read more about shudders file? |
| 15:11.34 | themill | it has a man page |
| 15:11.43 | HashNuke | "shudders". OSX Lion autocomplete screwed up the word. |
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| 15:11.51 | HashNuke | themill: ok. I'll check that! |
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| 15:13.35 | mike3 | themill: http://pastebin.com/0PTz9r3F |
| 15:14.11 | themill | oh my |
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| 15:15.46 | themill | mike3: I think it's time for you to upgrade to squeeze. It looks like you have an awful lot of squeeze installed there already. Follow the release notes and /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 15:15.54 | onryo | How do enable the pulseaudio server. I see it is installed. I want to be able to choose at will between pure ALSA or PA. |
| 15:16.32 | mike3 | themill: alright.. |
| 15:16.40 | onryo | Reason is that some voip programs need PA on linux for echo cancellation |
| 15:16.46 | onryo | Normally I hate PA |
| 15:17.05 | mike3 | themill: i may not be able to.. i'm running this as a VM under citrix with paravirtualization |
| 15:17.18 | mike3 | not sure i can get it working with the latest release. I really need to upgrade my xenserver... |
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| 15:17.25 | mike3 | it's two versions behind |
| 15:17.27 | themill | well downgrading that many packages isn't going to be a fun job |
| 15:17.42 | mike3 | i have a snapshot of this vm. |
| 15:17.44 | mike3 | i think. :) |
| 15:17.48 | mike3 | i gotta check |
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| 15:18.17 | hikenboot | can anyone recommend a netfilter front end that isnt any harder to use than pfsense...Mangling packets isnt my specialty..thanks |
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| 15:18.48 | mike3 | themill: well let's try upgrading first. if i break the system i will revert back |
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| 15:19.46 | somiaj | mike3: there are some known issues with upgrading lenny->squeese, read about them first |
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| 15:20.13 | Stoopit | where is menu.lst? |
| 15:20.24 | Stoopit | i don't have one in /boot/grub/ |
| 15:20.56 | zumbi | Stoopit: create it then |
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| 15:21.09 | Stoopit | zumbi, i just want grub to wait less long |
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| 15:21.44 | zumbi | Stoopit: uupdate-grub? |
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| 15:22.23 | zumbi | mike3: I do not think way back is supported |
| 15:22.25 | Stoopit | zumbi, you mean i should run that? |
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| 15:22.53 | zumbi | Stoopit: that might create you menu.lst in case you dont want to write it |
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| 15:23.51 | Stoopit | zumbi, i don't mind writing it |
| 15:24.09 | Stoopit | zumbi, so i jut create the file and put nothing in it besides the timeout? :s |
| 15:24.18 | Stoopit | i'm jsut really confused i don't have a menu.lst.... |
| 15:24.37 | themill | Stoopit: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst |
| 15:25.00 | Stoopit | themill, aha, so how do i change the time it waits before starting the default OS? |
| 15:25.16 | themill | Stoopit: edit /etc/default/grub then run update-grub |
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| 15:25.29 | Stoopit | themill, i'll try thanks |
| 15:25.35 | zumbi | might be update-grub2 in that case |
| 15:25.52 | zumbi | I thought you said you were running grub |
| 15:26.16 | themill | zumbi: you might like to look inside /usr/sbin/update-grub2 |
| 15:26.28 | Stoopit | themill, is it safe to also set the correct resolution? |
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| 15:26.36 | zumbi | exec update-grub "$@" :) |
| 15:27.07 | themill | Stoopit: I spend so little time looking at grub I've never bothered with such things |
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| 15:28.16 | Stoopit | themill, i do update-grub2 after editing the file? |
| 15:28.21 | Stoopit | or update-grub |
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| 15:28.22 | Stoopit | ? |
| 15:28.24 | Stoopit | i got both |
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| 15:29.10 | zumbi | Stoopit: it is same file, one calls the other one |
| 15:29.25 | zumbi | Stoopit: so actually does not seem to make a difference |
| 15:29.55 | hikenboot | on my search for a front end for netfilter...is there one front end in particular that is good with 1:1 NAT and works with dynamic Addresses on wan..I am trying to find something that can pick up 4 different dhcp addresses on wan and perform 1:1 NAT without having to learn packet mangling |
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| 15:30.44 | Stoopit | zumbi, ok thanks |
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| 15:42.28 | blah21 | How can I add the timer-applet to my Gnome panel? |
| 15:42.32 | ericmy94 | Wheres the best place to get help with pptpd? I heard its part of the debian project |
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| 15:43.01 | blah21 | I installed the time-applet package, but it is not listed in the applet list. |
| 15:43.08 | blah21 | timer-applet* |
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| 15:47.20 | ericmy94 | Help with pptpd anyone? Im trying to run it on a web server so I can have it be the main point for communications between multiple PCs |
| 15:47.41 | ericmy94 | The server doesnt have a private network |
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| 15:48.08 | Vespakoen | Hi there! What to do when apt-get update cant find the mirror: mirrors.nl.kernel.org ? |
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| 15:48.50 | Digdilem | can you find it from the command line? ie, does it ping, Vespakoen |
| 15:48.56 | somiaj | Vespakoen: why can't it find it? DNS issue, or its not responding. Use another mirror is what I usually did. |
| 15:49.15 | jelly | Vespakoen: use a different mirror. ftp.nl.debian.org ? |
| 15:49.29 | Vespakoen | how can i set it to use another mirror? |
| 15:49.31 | Vespakoen | i see: sources.list(5) |
| 15:49.40 | Vespakoen | but i dont know how to access, read or write it or ... |
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| 15:50.02 | jelly | Vespakoen: that means to read the manual page, man 5 sources.list |
| 15:50.10 | Vespakoen | ping: unknown host mirrors.nl.kernel.org |
| 15:50.19 | jelly | Vespakoen: ... which in turns tells the file is at /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:50.28 | Vespakoen | ok, lets see |
| 15:50.30 | somiaj | Vespakoen: can you ping other servers, ping debian.org |
| 15:50.55 | Vespakoen | ok ill add the ftp alternative |
| 15:51.13 | jelly | hmm, kernel.org dns servers seem unresponsive |
| 15:51.16 | jelly | ddos? |
| 15:51.50 | themill | taken down |
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| 15:52.24 | zumbi | how one use debrsign? |
| 15:52.32 | jelly | themill: for regular maintenance? :-) |
| 15:52.41 | themill | something like that |
| 15:52.42 | Vespakoen | what about deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main ? |
| 15:52.51 | zumbi | I always get Can't find or can't read changes file |
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| 15:53.30 | somiaj | Vespakoen: keep that there, its just the kernel.org mirrors that were having issues. |
| 15:53.39 | Vespakoen | okay, |
| 15:53.54 | Vespakoen | and those: deb http://mirrors.nl.kernel.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main |
| 15:53.54 | Vespakoen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:54.49 | Stoopit | themill, do you happen to know how to change the grub splash screen? |
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| 15:54.55 | Stoopit | the background of the grub menu |
| 15:55.37 | Vespakoen | i think its working =) |
| 15:56.02 | Vespakoen | almost, it needs squeeze-updates too, cant find http://mirrors.nl.kernel.org/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/ |
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| 15:56.47 | jelly | Vespakoen: you already know what to do there |
| 15:56.53 | Stoopit | themill, i can only find stuff with googel that seesm outdated |
| 15:57.06 | Vespakoen | jeps :) |
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| 15:57.20 | Vespakoen | it worked, thanks a million guys! |
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| 15:57.23 | Stoopit | it talks of a for line in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme |
| 15:57.26 | Stoopit | but the line is not there |
| 15:57.55 | poridge | is it possible to install debian to a virtual disk and boot from that file kind of like windows support for native .vhd booting? |
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| 16:01.41 | themill | Stoopit: GRUB_BACKGROUND=/path/to/your/image |
| 16:01.56 | themill | (in /etc/default/grub) |
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| 16:02.40 | ms_ | hi |
| 16:03.01 | ms_ | for testing purposes, i need to restrict the bandwidth of my eth0 to 5 mbit/s |
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| 16:03.33 | ms_ | is there any easy way to do this? all i found in google involved either various scripts, netfilter rules or installing a proxy |
| 16:04.18 | Stoopit | themill, i foudn a .sh thing that takes care of it now |
| 16:04.28 | Stoopit | themill, already tested it works |
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| 16:08.05 | ericmy94 | Anyone here know anything about VPNs? |
| 16:08.15 | Stoopit | probably |
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| 16:08.58 | jeddi | ericmy94: i've never met a vpn that wasn't better replaced with ssh and vnc ;) |
| 16:09.52 | ericmy94 | jeddi, I understand where your comin from, but I need something to tie mltiple users together kinda like what hamachi does |
| 16:09.59 | ericmy94 | *multiple |
| 16:10.07 | jeddi | ericmy94: sure |
| 16:10.12 | Bushmills | !client-to-client |
| 16:10.20 | jeddi | ericmy94: i tend to avoid vpn's .. so i shan't be much use to you on this one. |
| 16:10.31 | ericmy94 | jeddi; No problem |
| 16:10.35 | mutante | http://www.peervpn.net/ ? |
| 16:10.39 | Bushmills | ah. wrong channel for factoid :) |
| 16:11.21 | Bushmills | ,versions gvpe |
| 16:11.21 | judd | Package gvpe on i386 -- sid: 2.24-1; wheezy: 2.24-1 |
| 16:11.44 | ericmy94 | mutante; I think thats the anwser |
| 16:12.10 | mutante | cool:) |
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| 16:12.31 | ericmy94 | mutante: Thanks very much |
| 16:12.33 | mutante | i've tried it once, connected with one peer , just to see it works |
| 16:12.43 | mutante | but that was about it, no problem |
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| 16:17.15 | gelian | I have a problem with starting xorg via "startx" on a tty in oldstable. "startx" outputs this: http://pastebin.com/nqL5RGiT while Xorg.0.log looks like this: http://pastebin.com/bYq1SHMP ... I see no obvious errors, and the screen just hangs at the nVidia logo. I tried with the "vesa" drivers instead, and then it just goes black. No mouse, not turning off... Just black. And still no errors. Help? |
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| 16:17.47 | gelian | I tried logging in through SSH and doing "DISPLAY=:0.0 xcalc". xcalc starts, but nothing shows up on the screen even then |
| 16:18.09 | gelian | however, if I wait like an hour or something, literally, then gnome starts and acts normal |
| 16:19.18 | wols | try another window manager? |
| 16:21.11 | aaket504 | Openbox |
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| 16:23.03 | gelian | wols: i tried adding several other commands into .xsession, including "touch ${HOME}/foo", and it's not even doing that before an hour has passed |
| 16:23.19 | gelian | wols: it just hangs at a black screen for an hour, *THEN* does everything, it seems |
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| 16:24.53 | gelian | i'm currently using the "nv" driver, but the "vesa" driver does the same. the "nvidia" driver, however, hangs at the nvidia logo for an hour |
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| 16:25.01 | gelian | then it goes about its business as the other two |
| 16:25.12 | gelian | but where the others display a black screen, the nvidia one at least shows something |
| 16:27.04 | Stoopit | i disabled the login splash screen, but now i have to type the password to unlock the keychain |
| 16:27.09 | gelian | i had just about given up on the damn thing when i suddenly noticed it moving on after an hour. something must be hanging, but i just can't tell what |
| 16:27.10 | Stoopit | is there any way to also do that automatically? |
| 16:27.24 | Stoopit | this will be used by a user that doesnt need superb security |
| 16:27.48 | gelian | Stoopit: you can set no password for most of the keychain solutions |
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| 16:28.32 | Stoopit | gelian, aha, will try |
| 16:28.36 | Stoopit | its jsut for wifi |
| 16:29.08 | gelian | Stoopit: yeah. i have no keychain pass on my laptop because I use full disk encryption anyway. it never asks for passwords for the wifis |
| 16:29.33 | Stoopit | gelian, it wont ask for the pass then right? |
| 16:29.37 | Stoopit | trying it now its rebooting |
| 16:29.40 | gelian | mine doesn't |
| 16:29.44 | Stoopit | nice :) |
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| 16:29.50 | Stoopit | this will be much better for him |
| 16:29.56 | Stoopit | he can go straight to what he wants to do now |
| 16:29.58 | Stoopit | no login |
| 16:30.04 | Stoopit | its jsut a netbook used for surfing and mail etc |
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| 16:32.16 | wald0 | i have see time ago a list of the time passed between debian releases, can anybody remember me it ? |
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| 16:33.40 | gelian | wald0: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+releases&l=1 |
| 16:34.14 | Stoopit | gelian, yeah works fine now :) its just perfect |
| 16:34.29 | Stoopit | the only thing that would make it more perfect now is if it wouldnt display all the text when booting |
| 16:34.32 | Stoopit | any way to disable that? |
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| 16:34.51 | Stoopit | so it either shows an image or just a black screen or something like that |
| 16:35.03 | gelian | "bootsplash" or somesuch |
| 16:35.10 | Stoopit | googles |
| 16:35.25 | gelian | !bootsplash |
| 16:35.25 | dpkg | The bootsplash project (http://www.bootsplash.org/) provided Linux kernel patches and userspace utilities to enable a graphical boot process. Previously packaged for Debian as linux-patch-bootsplash and bootsplash, removed post-Etch to resolve bugs #469776 and #436639 respectively. Superseded by the Splashy Project (no kernel patch required), ask me about <splashy>. See also <plymouth>. |
| 16:35.34 | gelian | hm.. ask dpkg (in private) about splashy :) |
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| 16:36.55 | Stoopit | gelian, so its gone now or? |
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| 16:37.06 | gelian | bootsplash is. splashy isn't |
| 16:37.14 | gelian | according to dpkg anyway |
| 16:37.21 | gelian | i like my text, so i don't use it :) |
| 16:38.18 | themill | ,info plymouth |
| 16:38.19 | judd | Package plymouth (misc, optional) in squeeze/i386: Graphical Boot Animation and Logger. Version: 0.8.3-9.1; Size: 211.6k; Installed: 752k; Homepage: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth |
| 16:38.42 | gelian | any ideas on my 1 hour black screen delay problem? |
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| 16:38.59 | gelian | i've been struggling with this for ages. i'm running out of ways to word this to google |
| 16:39.40 | wols | why is nv staying black and why can't you upgrade to stable? |
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| 16:40.43 | gelian | wols: i can't because the server is supposed to run a server for "neverwinter nights", a 10 year old game which requires old versions of just about everything |
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| 16:41.07 | wols | put NWN in a chroot? |
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| 16:41.28 | wols | see /msg dpkg schroot |
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| 16:41.57 | gelian | wols: also, nv isn't staying black. all of them continue after around 1 hour |
| 16:42.11 | gelian | wols: nv and vesa are black for an hour, nvidia shows its logo for an hour |
| 16:42.39 | gelian | wols: then they all run .xsession and quickly do all of it, including touching the file i put in there for testing, and starting the wm |
| 16:42.51 | aPpYe | why is the metapackage "sun-java6-plugin" not "sun-java-plugin" ... what will happen when the next version comes out? |
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| 16:43.21 | twobitsprite | aPpYe: you mean, java7? it will probably be sun-java7-plugin? |
| 16:43.33 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: Because there are differences in the interface, and the 6-5 transition required that the distinction be made. |
| 16:43.44 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: It allows more than one version to be installed. |
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| 16:44.15 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: If sun bumps the version without a significant interface change then it'll be a bit confusing. |
| 16:44.16 | aPpYe | so when java7 comes out, will I have to manually put it on my machine? |
| 16:44.34 | wald0 | i dont like to ask this but... what's teh date for the next release ? i have before asked for a list of the times between debian releases just for have an aprox idea (1 month, 1 year, 5 years?) |
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| 16:44.50 | twobitsprite | !release history |
| 16:44.50 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06). The next release will be Wheezy. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives |
| 16:44.57 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: It will probably eventually be the default installation, but if you want to run java6 applications you'll install 6, if you want java7 you can install 7. |
| 16:45.14 | twobitsprite | wald0: there is no date for the next release... it'll be out when it's ready |
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| 16:45.44 | jhutchins_lt | wald0: Debian is not released according to an artificially imposed schedule, it's released when the release candidate has reduced the number of critical bugs to an acceptable level. |
| 16:45.53 | wald0 | ok so, aprox 1-1,5 year, 2 max |
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| 16:46.02 | jhutchins_lt | wald0: This is why Debian is so much more stable and reliable. |
| 16:46.10 | jhutchins_lt | wald0: No max. |
| 16:46.13 | gelian | wald0: if it takes more than 2 years, it will be more than 2 years |
| 16:46.22 | wald0 | jhutchins_lt: yes, i know, i ask that just for have an idea deciding a version to install |
| 16:46.30 | gelian | wald0: install stable |
| 16:46.36 | jhutchins_lt | wald0: Install 6.0.2. |
| 16:46.45 | wald0 | yeah, i think that is the best option :) |
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| 16:47.20 | wols | gelian: purge xorg, all of it, and reinstall? |
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| 16:49.18 | gelian | wols: this was pretty much a clean install, but i'm desperate enough to try. i'd rather not have to run everything i need on this machine in a chroot |
| 16:49.29 | gelian | wols: wiping xorg, gnome and such now |
| 16:49.38 | wols | not gnome |
| 16:50.00 | gelian | k |
| 16:50.32 | wols | but since you have to upgrade sooner orlatter to squeeze anyways: do it now (imho) |
| 16:50.58 | gelian | wols: i wasn't planning on upgrading at all. i was planning on installing this, then leaving it alone until nobody wants to play that aging game anymore |
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| 16:51.31 | aPpYe | I have been playing with testing, using linuxmint's LMDE repositories where they have ~monthly releases of testing. Problem is, testing is still a moving target. For example, icedtea-plugin is no longer available. |
| 16:51.42 | wols | does the gameserver need X? |
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| 16:51.56 | wols | !tell aPpYe about mint |
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| 16:52.11 | gelian | wols: no, but the front-end, which the one who's going to administrate it uses, does |
| 16:52.42 | gelian | wols: i tried to talk them our of it. didn't help. |
| 16:52.45 | gelian | out* |
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| 16:54.42 | twobitsprite | speaking of a testing-based distro... anyone have any news on debian CUT? |
| 16:54.43 | aPpYe | wols ... yes yes I know. still, some questions are better suited to debian people |
| 16:55.11 | wols | aPpYe: we don't support mint. the end. now please ask a mint channel |
| 16:55.35 | aPpYe | oboy ... |
| 16:55.35 | themill | aPpYe: if you don't want a moving target, install debian stable. |
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| 17:02.30 | sunny | hey guys, how do I get reprepro to automatically sign the release file when I add a package to my repo? |
| 17:03.22 | gelian | wols: i purged xorg, reinstalled it, did Xorg -configure, it autogenerated a config using the "nvidia" drivers, and now I'm back to staring at the nvidia logo for an hour. i also removed my .xsession, so nothing in there is causing this |
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| 17:04.13 | lindenle_ | Hi guys I have a script in cron.daily which does not appear to be running. What is the best way to debug this? |
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| 17:05.16 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: Please do not judge Debian by what Mint releases. It is NOT Debian. |
| 17:05.19 | sunny | lindenle_: does it work when run manually by hand? |
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| 17:05.40 | sunny | from the location inside /etc/cron.daily/? |
| 17:06.18 | aPpYe | jhutchins, not judging debian ... ? I just had a question about java plugins that was better directed here, rather than to mint. |
| 17:06.32 | aPpYe | I was just sharing what I was building. |
| 17:06.33 | jhutchins_lt | aPpYe: Not if you're running mint it isn't. |
| 17:06.35 | themill | aPpYe: no mint question is better directed here rather than mint. |
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| 17:06.48 | themill | sunny: you have "SignWith: yes" in the conf/distributions file? |
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| 17:07.13 | ksx4system | i don't have make-kpkg command, which package should i install? |
| 17:07.34 | ksx4system | i'm trying to compile kernel from source and make .deb package from it |
| 17:07.35 | lindenle_ | sunny: yes, perfectly |
| 17:07.45 | somiaj | ksx4system: kernel-package |
| 17:07.45 | aPpYe | it wasn't a question about mint. |
| 17:07.49 | themill | lindenle_: is cron running? |
| 17:08.09 | aPpYe | I was just asking about why the metapackage was named what it was. |
| 17:08.10 | lindenle_ | themill: I see cron when I do psaux and I restarted it yesterday just in case |
| 17:08.17 | somiaj | ksx4system: you'll probably watn libncurses5-dev (for menuconfig) |
| 17:08.23 | somiaj | ksx4system: as well. |
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| 17:09.09 | lindenle_ | I also see entries for root sessions started by cron |
| 17:09.22 | lindenle_ | in auth.log |
| 17:09.28 | themill | lindenle_: what's the filename of the script? |
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| 17:09.41 | lindenle_ | motd_fetch |
| 17:09.51 | lindenle_ | themill ^ |
| 17:09.56 | aPpYe | honestly, the only thing mint about this project is the repos themselves. |
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| 17:10.09 | lindenle_ | themill: er... motd-fetch |
| 17:10.22 | themill | lindenle_: you might like to compare that filename to man 8 run-parts |
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| 17:11.22 | themill | aPpYe: we volunteer here to support debian users not random derivatives that we have no experience of. We can't know what they change, fix or break. Please respect this and move on. |
| 17:11.26 | lindenle_ | themill: when you asked that I decided to try running run-parts by hand...ill get back to you |
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| 17:13.36 | lindenle_ | themill: run-parts appears to work. Could the anacron test be screwing up? |
| 17:13.54 | themill | do you have anacron installed? |
| 17:13.58 | aPpYe | themill, I built a debian stable system, then dist-upgraded to the lmde testing repos. These repos are direct mirrors of debian testing that are frozen. I never installed LMDE. |
| 17:14.07 | ksx4system | somiaj: thanks. btw why make-kpkg asks about some things I already done using make menuconfig? |
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| 17:14.17 | lindenle_ | themill: I don't but when I echo $? after the test on the command line I see 1 |
| 17:14.36 | themill | aPpYe: please take a break from #debian and use that time to work out just how far off-topic you are. |
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| 17:14.44 | ksx4system | somiaj: for example "BFS cpu scheduler (SCHED_BFS) [Y/n/?] (NEW) |
| 17:15.00 | seb82 | valdyn: what about ya? |
| 17:15.12 | somiaj | ksx4system: did menuconfig make a .config file, if you have that make-kpkg by default shouldn't ask you for configs |
| 17:15.25 | somiaj | ksx4system: unless of coures your .config is a bit old it may ask you about newer options. |
| 17:15.27 | lindenle_ | themill: well if i put it in an "if" statement it appears to work correctly |
| 17:15.46 | seb82 | valdyn: incase your confuzled about the question... its how the Irish say in English: "How are you?" |
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| 17:16.35 | seb82 | valdyn: update... pa server works flawlessly on both pc's... but I still can't connect the sound of the virtual pc to my laptop... |
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| 17:19.25 | seb82 | I've got pa server running on both pc's... |
| 17:19.58 | seb82 | how can I channel the sound of the virtual pc to my laptop, so when I run the virtual pc in vnc on my laptop... I can hear the sound on my laptop? |
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| 17:20.44 | lindenle_ | themill: I am stumped |
| 17:20.47 | wols | seb82: vnc cannot do this. rdp can |
| 17:21.15 | seb82 | wols: i'm using pulseaudio server for the sound matter... |
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| 17:24.25 | wols | seb82: that doesn't change the facts about vnc. not possible |
| 17:24.45 | seb82 | wols: vnc isn't in the picture... |
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| 17:24.58 | seb82 | I just need to know what to connect to what... |
| 17:25.01 | seb82 | that's the whole deal |
| 17:25.12 | wols | < seb82> how can I channel the sound of the virtual pc to my laptop, so when I run the virtual pc in vnc on my laptop |
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| 17:25.21 | wols | then stop saying that you are |
| 17:25.23 | mcfrisk_ | Q: runnin unstable on a Thinkpad and audio device seems to get locked by something, for ex. flash video playback blocks skype and video editor from outputting sound, feels like 2002 again? Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 17:26.05 | wols | mcfrisk_: check what block it then with lsof or such. |
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| 17:26.07 | themill | lindenle_: Have you added some sort of logging to the start of your script to see if it is run at all? |
| 17:26.40 | somiaj | mcfrisk_: are you using alsa plus a custom .asoundrc -- I belive the default asoundrc should be using dmix (software mixxer) but this won't work if an application usses the old oss (via alsa-oss emulation) |
| 17:26.53 | somiaj | mcfrisk_: if not you can look into confguring dmix. |
| 17:27.04 | seb82 | wols: lemme clearify that... I'm running vnc already... I read and was told I can stream the sound of the virtual host to my laptop with pa server... |
| 17:27.30 | seb82 | but i don't know how to stream the sound from the virtual pc to my pc |
| 17:27.51 | somiaj | mcfrisk_: you could also install a sound server (like pulseaduio) but then you have to configure your apps to use it instead of alsa. (personaly I wish more soundcards weren't cheap and just supplied hardware mixing) |
| 17:28.14 | seb82 | but alright leave vnc out of the picture... |
| 17:28.41 | wols | seb82: www.google.com/search?q=pulseaudio+network I see sevreal howtos |
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| 17:30.16 | mcfrisk_ | but having multiple audio users used to work, now it does not as if some sound daemon blocking access to alsa device |
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| 17:30.23 | n-iCe | hi i have the debian cd |
| 17:30.32 | n-iCe | can I create a partition using it? without installing debian? |
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| 17:32.25 | somiaj | n-iCe: yes, though the rescue mode is limited and you may find a live-cd giving you more tools |
| 17:32.39 | n-iCe | like gparted? |
| 17:32.55 | mcfrisk_ | for example, mplayer and flash plugin can play at the same time using /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
| 17:32.57 | somiaj | n-iCe: but you can just stop the installer after doing the partition step, if you use expermode you can just go straight to that step, or open up a resuce console and use the limited tools there. |
| 17:33.47 | somiaj | mcfrisk_: software mixing in alsa (dmix) doesn't work with the alsa-oss emulation afiak. So if any app grabs alsa via the oss emulation you won't get mixing. |
| 17:33.55 | amphi | mcfrisk_: perhaps something is using the snd-pcm-oss device |
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| 17:35.37 | mcfrisk_ | to me problem seems to come from pulseaudio |
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| 17:36.33 | somiaj | disable or remove pulseaudio then |
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| 17:36.46 | somiaj | or configure your pass to use it instead |
| 17:37.09 | somiaj | s/pass/aps/ |
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| 17:37.38 | ilaiho | hi! |
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| 17:38.27 | ilaiho | how do i prevent my system from playing line-in to speakers? |
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| 17:38.56 | ilaiho | muting aux has no effect whatsoever |
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| 17:39.33 | nkuttler | ilaiho: mute line/mic ? |
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| 17:40.27 | ilaiho | nkuttler: no effect |
| 17:41.13 | ilaiho | my card is SB Live! 5.1 |
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| 17:42.06 | ilaiho | muting âpcmâ mutes the aux too, but it mutes everything |
| 17:42.28 | nkuttler | ilaiho: which mixer do you use? try alsamixer |
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| 17:42.43 | ilaiho | nkuttler: i use alsamixer |
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| 17:43.55 | mcfrisk_ | how to stop pulseaudio in a gnome session? |
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| 17:44.24 | somiaj | ilaiho: just turn the line-in volume all the way down? |
| 17:44.55 | thewanderer1 | mcfrisk_: you pretty much can't... I ended up hacking autostart scripts (yes, autostart not init) to not start PA if a .nopulse file is present in $HOME... |
| 17:45.20 | ilaiho | somiaj: no, it defiantly keeps playing the sound |
| 17:45.35 | mcfrisk_ | thewanderer1: sigh |
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| 17:46.15 | thewanderer1 | mcfrisk_: the damn thing keeps respawning :/ |
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| 17:46.25 | berarma | mcfrisk_: you can stop it any time running pulseaudio -k |
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| 17:47.22 | cardamon | Hello. |
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| 17:48.54 | berarma | ilaiho: press F6 in alsamixer to check the right device is selected |
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| 17:49.30 | ilaiho | berarma: it shows only one device; the internal sound card is disabled from bios setup |
| 17:49.57 | ilaiho | this is really strange |
| 17:50.28 | berarma | it seems your line-in volume control isn't correctly mapped |
| 17:50.29 | somiaj | ilaiho: I recall it working for me, but I always 'mute' the application using my linein as opposed to using alsamixer. But I can't check if it works for me or not until I get home in many many hours. (I to have a sblive 5.1) |
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| 17:51.23 | EyesIsServer | User not known to the underlying authentication module |
| 17:51.25 | krish|wired-in | guys, what is wrong in http://pastebin.com/eTbrcfn6 ... I am getting an error "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header |
| 17:51.26 | krish|wired-in | " |
| 17:51.31 | EyesIsServer | What does that mean |
| 17:51.34 | mcfrisk_ | audio lockings solved: removed all packages listed by dpkg -l|grep pulseaudio |
| 17:51.48 | ilaiho | berarma: how do map it correctly? |
| 17:51.56 | ilaiho | berarma: *to |
| 17:52.00 | lindenle_ | do cron scripts have to be sh rather than bash? |
| 17:52.14 | mcfrisk_ | now flash plugin, skype, kdenlive, mplayer all work at the same time, skype was insisting on pulseaudio until I rebooted |
| 17:52.28 | ilaiho | somiaj: i don't really understand⦠|
| 17:52.33 | berarma | ilaiho: is it an original SB Live? |
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| 17:53.26 | ilaiho | berarma: i don't know, lspci says: 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) |
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| 17:54.22 | wolfe213 | I am trying to get my thermal info in gnome-panel I installed the applet, I ran sensors-detect it found the nvidia card and other things but all I get in the applet is the HDD temp, anyone good with debugging this stuff? |
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| 17:54.38 | wolfe213 | I've loaded the modules sensors-detect found idk why they're not showing up |
| 17:55.09 | EyesIsServer | Does anyone know why sudo passwd is failing |
| 17:55.30 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: are you in the sudoers file? |
| 17:55.42 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: perhaps its looking for YOUR pw and not the root pw |
| 17:56.04 | EyesIsServer | norc, i'm trying to change the passwd of a newly created user |
| 17:56.07 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: if you use gnome you may be better off using gksu instead cause it checks your gnome keyring |
| 17:56.16 | EyesIsServer | For FTP |
| 17:56.38 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: well su to root and run passwd username |
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| 17:56.48 | skilz | Is Squeeze Debian BSD? |
| 17:57.04 | wolfe213 | skilz: no, Squeeze is the current debian stabl 6.0.x |
| 17:57.09 | skilz | Running the FreeBSD kernel or is that something else? |
| 17:57.17 | wolfe213 | skilz: it can run on linux or freebsd, default runs linux |
| 17:57.38 | wolfe213 | as I know debian runs on linux, bsd, and hurd |
| 17:58.02 | skilz | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
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| 17:58.15 | skilz | Isn't Debian Linux? |
| 17:58.20 | wolfe213 | skilz: right, well most people use Debian Gnu/Linux |
| 17:58.27 | EyesIsServer | * * Verify E: certificate has expired.? (10) -- Ignored |
| 17:58.29 | nkuttler | skilz: debian can use linux, right |
| 17:58.31 | EyesIsServer | oops |
| 17:58.33 | EyesIsServer | fail copy |
| 17:58.33 | wolfe213 | skilz: it IS but there are ports to other kernels |
| 17:58.38 | nkuttler | skilz: but it's not exclusive |
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| 17:58.42 | EyesIsServer | passwd: Authentication token manipulation error |
| 17:59.14 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: are you sure the user exists in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow? |
| 17:59.26 | skilz | So Debian using the FreeBSD kernel, kind of like OS X using the darwin BSD kernel? |
| 17:59.46 | EyesIsServer | wolfe213, yes |
| 18:00.01 | echo083 | is there a volume controller as good as for pulseaudio for alsa which create an icon in the notification area ? |
| 18:00.05 | nkuttler | skilz: not really, no |
| 18:00.15 | wolfe213 | skilz: not really its similar in that they are both called BSD in some form or another.. other than that there is no similarity at all |
| 18:00.32 | EyesIsServer | It's getting me to enter the password tiwce |
| 18:00.39 | ilaiho | i think alsa is too complicated |
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| 18:00.52 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: then the passwords are not the same when you confirm it |
| 18:00.57 | ilaiho | no one is able to use it |
| 18:01.00 | EyesIsServer | It's been making me enter the password twice to unlock and to do any sudo actions too |
| 18:01.30 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: idk, sounds to me like you need to have a look at your sudoers file |
| 18:01.49 | EyesIsServer | wolfe213, on GNOME i have to enter the password twice before it unlocks |
| 18:01.54 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: you may have been hacked or something for all I know. heh |
| 18:02.06 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: either that or you're not typing your password right |
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| 18:02.16 | ernst | EyesIsServer: might be that your pam is trying multiple authentication methods, maybe check your /etc/pam.d/sudo file |
| 18:02.19 | EyesIsServer | norc, because it doesn't wait at all |
| 18:02.27 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: look at your auth log.. see if you're entering the wrong password and if someone has been in there.. heh |
| 18:02.28 | EyesIsServer | ernst, okay then |
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| 18:03.04 | EyesIsServer | I have 7 lines in that file |
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| 18:04.14 | aPpYe | wow how cool is that! using archlinux, I always had to have a script that ran at startup to see if a new kernel was installed, and rebuild virtualbox modules if true. Debian seems to have some kind of automatic trigger thing for this already! |
| 18:04.18 | EyesIsServer | andref, when I try to do anything that needs a password I have to enter it twice |
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| 18:04.37 | EyesIsServer | s/andref/and/ |
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| 18:05.08 | knightstalker | Hello,I am going to install Debian to try out GNOME Shell,Live CDs are what I am looking for right?(I know gnome shell is not in them,I am willing to switch to testing if required) |
| 18:05.49 | wols | knightstalker: gnome shell is gnome 3.0 ? |
| 18:05.55 | knightstalker | Yes |
| 18:06.25 | wols | knightstalker: does not exist |
| 18:06.39 | knightstalker | wiki.debian.org/GnomeShell <- |
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| 18:06.45 | knightstalker | Okay,that made me fail :p |
| 18:06.51 | wolfe213 | EyesIsServer: 7 lines in what file? |
| 18:07.06 | ernst | EyesIsServer: maybe write it to a pastebin |
| 18:07.14 | EyesIsServer | /etc/pam.d/sudo |
| 18:07.22 | EyesIsServer | Same as I had before the troubles |
| 18:07.32 | wolfe213 | idk wabout all that |
| 18:07.51 | wolfe213 | I'm just saying if you're having issues with passwords you need to see your auth log and see what the issue is |
| 18:07.56 | wols | ,versions gnome-shell |
| 18:07.56 | judd | Package gnome-shell on i386 -- experimental: 3.0.2-1+b1 |
| 18:08.09 | EyesIsServer | And where is this auth log |
| 18:08.17 | wols | knightstalker: as you can see you don`t want to do it |
| 18:08.25 | wols | EyesIsServer: /var/log |
| 18:08.41 | knightstalker | wols,Understood,Thanks |
| 18:08.42 | wolfe213 | its /var/log/auth.log and there are archived ones .2.gz and such logrotat does |
| 18:08.45 | EyesIsServer | which folder/file is it in there |
| 18:08.49 | EyesIsServer | oh |
| 18:09.58 | EyesIsServer | Sep 7 19:07:41 wiseeyes sudo: PAM no modules loaded for `sudo' service |
| 18:10.05 | EyesIsServer | That's not good right |
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| 18:15.15 | seb82 | wols: thx |
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| 18:17.13 | EyesIsServer | Okay, the issue is fixed now. |
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| 18:17.29 | EyesIsServer | It seems as if vsftpd does not like authentication. |
| 18:17.40 | emery | I get this error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1" i've formatted the USB stick twice Fat32, any ideas ? |
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| 18:18.32 | TrueDD | Hi everybody ! |
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| 18:20.29 | Iridos | I think I still don't understand what qualifies bugs for bugfixes in stable |
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| 18:21.06 | chriswaterguy | Hi - anyone have experience with using bluetooth to connect an Android phone and a Debian system? |
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| 18:21.45 | chriswaterguy | I'm using bluetooth-wizard... which seems very nice except that it can't see my Android (which is supposedly visible). Not sure if it's an Android or bluetooth-wizard problem. |
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| 18:22.13 | wolfe213 | man I reall would like to get cpu and gpu temp readouts on this machine we just rebuilt it and I'd like to make sure the cooling is working |
| 18:22.32 | valdyn | !sensors |
| 18:22.33 | dpkg | lm_sensors (Linux-monitoring sensors) is a hardware health monitoring package for CPU temperature, fan speed, etc. Packaged for Debian as lm-sensors. http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/FAQ http://www.lm-sensors.org/ #linux-sensors on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:22.44 | wolfe213 | even the deprecated /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty on this.. its an old P4 system and sensors-detect found stuff but its not showing up in my temp monitor |
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| 18:23.58 | nvz | valdyn: yeah I got lm_sensors it found the nvidia card and stuff, I let it put the modules in and I started the modules init.d script like it said but still the only sensor I get in my applet is the one from the hdd monitor deamon |
| 18:24.29 | valdyn | nvz: you might need the nouvea driver to get nvidia sensors |
| 18:24.33 | jhutchins_lt | Pretty easy to tell if cooling is working. Is the air coming out hotter than the air going in? |
| 18:24.52 | valdyn | nvz: or nvidias nvidia-settings to get it with the proprietary nvidia drivers |
| 18:25.09 | nvz | valdyn: just running sensors shows all that data actuall, but the panel applet isnt finding em.. lemme killall gnome-panel and see if it finds em when it restarts |
| 18:25.23 | jhutchins_lt | nvz: Did you pay attention to the output when you ran sensors-detect? |
| 18:25.37 | valdyn | nvz: i see, so the panel is whats broken... |
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| 18:25.41 | nvz | jhutchins_lt: vaguely.. I speed read enough to know it found it and loaded the modules |
| 18:25.45 | valdyn | nvz: *applet* even |
| 18:25.54 | nvz | yeah its the gnome panel applet thats not seeing it, sensors does |
| 18:25.57 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, the latest intel generation of processors i3 i5 i7 are they correctly supported on linux kernels since the version 2.6.31 ? |
| 18:25.58 | Iridos | I ran into bug 609012, which has been closed because it's fixed in unstable. As the main reason of libimobiledevice1 is to connect ipods and iphones, I would say the bug "renders this package unusable"...that should be "grave"? |
| 18:26.00 | jhutchins_lt | nvz: You may need to add specific sensors to the applet. |
| 18:26.07 | nvz | they're all working now.. I had to restart the gnome-panel |
| 18:26.23 | nvz | gotta go figure out which is which and name em properly though |
| 18:26.36 | Iridos | so shouldn't that severity be something that warrants a bugfix for stable? |
| 18:26.38 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Not sure, there might not be full sandy bridge support in .31 |
| 18:26.39 | nvz | do the old stick my finger in a fan to see which thing is which.. haha |
| 18:26.55 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, sandy bridge what is it ? |
| 18:27.10 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: An Intel product. |
| 18:27.18 | valdyn | Iridos: thats not grave enough at times |
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| 18:27.47 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, ok ! it wouldn't work at all or it wouldn't be as performant as it should be ? |
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| 18:28.32 | skilz | If I want ppp to connect at system boot, do I edit /etc/rc.local ? |
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| 18:29.05 | EyesIsServer | I hate FTP now |
| 18:29.12 | valdyn | Iridos: maybe its hard to backport that fix or maybe no one sent a patch. Upgrading to the fixed version is not possible. |
| 18:29.25 | Iridos | valdyn, well, enlighten me? I just don't understand what warrants inclusion and what not. Here there's a library whose sole purpose is to do one thing and the bug breaks it |
| 18:29.27 | wols | no. enable ppp0 via "auto" and use "on demand" or "demand" in your provider script for ppp |
| 18:29.27 | EyesIsServer | 500 OOPS: Cannot change dir to /media/DATA/blah or something like that |
| 18:29.39 | Iridos | it actually also breaks other things like ifuse, that depend on it? |
| 18:30.21 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Sorry, I do not have specific knowledge, and it would depend on the chipset. (It would also depend on what you consider the "latest" chips.) |
| 18:30.22 | Iridos | valdyn, hm, maybe... although I don't see why. A new version can't break stuff more than "totally broken" either |
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| 18:30.30 | valdyn | Iridos: sure, a library alone is useless, so a bug in a library always breaks another program. Otherwise it would not be a bug |
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| 18:30.46 | valdyn | Iridos: sure it can |
| 18:30.51 | Iridos | right :) |
| 18:30.55 | Iridos | how so |
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| 18:31.03 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Intel "releases" chips only after someone has Windows compatible drivers for them. The same is not true for Linux, we have to play catch-up. |
| 18:31.18 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, meaning we can't know before trying ! |
| 18:31.23 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Right. |
| 18:31.24 | valdyn | Iridos: but thats not the point, its probably a reason why policy exists. In the end, policy is what cannot be broken in debian stable |
| 18:31.31 | Iridos | valdyn, how? it's broken itself and breaks everything that depends on it... and I don't see how it can break unrelated stuff |
| 18:31.32 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, thks ! |
| 18:31.51 | wols | jhutchins_lt: usually linux supports new intel chips before windows does |
| 18:31.56 | valdyn | Iridos: packages can do anything, so it can in theory break anything |
| 18:31.57 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Sometimes a company like Intel will share the necessary specifications with the kernel project before the chip is available, I don't know if Intel does this at all. |
| 18:32.22 | valdyn | Iridos: but i didnt want to get into argueing about debian policy. It's there, its followed. |
| 18:32.22 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, with linux amd is doing it ? |
| 18:32.25 | wols | jhutchins_lt: intel employs kernel developers |
| 18:32.39 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Don't know, you'd have to ask a kernel dev. |
| 18:32.42 | wols | echo083: not as much as intel |
| 18:32.44 | echo083 | wols, good to know |
| 18:33.18 | Iridos | valdyn, I've seen new versions in stable in case of security fixes, though |
| 18:33.27 | Iridos | well, this is not one |
| 18:33.32 | seb82 | guys... when running xtightvncviewer to run my virtual pc... after entering the password... it takes no input from the keyboard like before... |
| 18:33.36 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, wols, i just joined the kernel chan i'll ask and tell you |
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| 18:33.43 | seb82 | i can only use my mouse in the virtual pc... |
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| 18:33.56 | jhutchins_lt | echo083: Please stick with debian specific topics here. |
| 18:33.57 | valdyn | Iridos: theres no new versions in stable, only new *debian* versions, not upstream |
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| 18:34.01 | wols | seb82: why do you use vnc? |
| 18:34.09 | echo083 | jhutchins_lt, ok :( |
| 18:34.22 | seb82 | wols: because i like tightvnc... because it's easy... |
| 18:34.29 | wols | seb82: and why virtual pc in the first place? |
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| 18:35.01 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Which version? |
| 18:35.04 | wols | seb82: you do know the virtualpc is very old, unsupported and generally simply crap? |
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| 18:35.22 | seb82 | virtual pc... is basically a vbox running on my win7... |
| 18:35.31 | Iridos | valdyn, well, perhaps that was a big exception... or my memory plays tricks on me... with one ssh-bug, I remember a new version of sshd coming from security.debian.org |
| 18:35.38 | wols | seb82: as I said: unsupported. and crap |
| 18:35.51 | Iridos | but that was a BIG problem anyway, so there might have been an exception |
| 18:35.59 | wols | seb82: for further virtualpc support, please ask microsoft. not #debian |
| 18:36.10 | seb82 | wols: I'm running virtual box |
| 18:36.22 | jhutchins_lt | wols: I don't think that the concept of a virtual PC necessarily implies a specific technology like Windows 7 VirtualPC. |
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| 18:37.01 | seb82 | wols: my home desktop runs on win7... runs like a charm... vbox runs on it... so I have a virtual debian... which I like to access this way for my own reasons... |
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| 18:37.34 | seb82 | besides that... when I ran the debian on the vbox as root... i had not issues with keyboard input... when running tightvncserver as regular user... this started to happen... |
| 18:37.41 | franek | hi |
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| 18:37.52 | wols | seb82: you do know that vbox comes has a rdp server available? |
| 18:38.05 | seb82 | wols: I know... but I like to use tightvnc... |
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| 18:38.17 | wols | seb82: and virtualbox != virtual pc, which is a msft product (discontinued) |
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| 18:38.52 | seb82 | wols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox |
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| 18:39.56 | seb82 | wols: so no msft product but a Oracle product... |
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| 18:40.11 | wols | seb82: I know what VirtualBox is but you apparently don't know what VirtualPC is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualPC |
| 18:40.26 | seb82 | I know what virtualpc is but i'm not using virtualpc |
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| 18:40.49 | seb82 | i'm using virtualbox |
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| 18:41.21 | seb82 | which is not outdated because the latest stable release was released 21 days ago... |
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| 18:41.54 | franek | http://wklej.org/id/591129/txt/ any ideas? |
| 18:42.21 | seb82 | so does anyone have any ideas why my keyboard input isn't passed on and how it can be fixed? |
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| 18:43.31 | robin_sz | seb82, yeah, try using rdp instead of tightvnc, I heard tightvnc has issues |
| 18:43.44 | seb82 | but why did it work before? |
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| 18:43.48 | wols | franek: LANG=C apt-get install <your package> then paste the output of THAT. not some filtered stuff which lacks the useful info |
| 18:43.48 | valdyn | franek: i dont see a problem, paste the complete output of your apt-get comman |
| 18:44.10 | seb82 | my win7 doesn't allow rdp... |
| 18:44.17 | robin_sz | seb82, because someting chnaged? |
| 18:44.18 | seb82 | therefor i'm stuck with vnc |
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| 18:44.43 | seb82 | before I used the root user on my debian inside 'virtualbox'... |
| 18:44.45 | themill | franek: hit "q" to quit |
| 18:45.12 | seb82 | then I moved to the user seb... and since then... it doesn't take input... on either account |
| 18:45.17 | jhutchins_lt | wols: Again, virtual pc != virtualpc |
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| 18:46.15 | wols | *plonk* |
| 18:46.20 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: If you've been running a GUI desktop as root that could be the source of the problem. |
| 18:46.51 | seb82 | it wasn't... it worked then without any issues... now as a regular user it doesn;t... |
| 18:46.55 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You should be launching the vnc client in a console window so you can see any error output. Also look for debugging/verbose options on it. |
| 18:47.21 | franek | valdyn: wols themill ok, reboot and go to debian. brb |
| 18:47.22 | seb82 | it doesn't state any error... |
| 18:48.17 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Look at the server logs as well, increase the output on the server. |
| 18:48.57 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Do the keyboard and mouse still work on the local box? |
| 18:49.24 | seb82 | yes on the local box no issues... only the keyboard doesn't work on remote... |
| 18:49.37 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: USB keyboard? |
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| 18:49.58 | seb82 | no... the remote, on which I'm now is a laptop |
| 18:50.22 | robin_sz | can't you just ssh to it and be done? |
| 18:50.49 | jhutchins_lt | robin_sz: Over some networks tightvnc performs better. |
| 18:51.02 | seb82 | ssh isn't an issue |
| 18:51.09 | seb82 | I need a virtual desktop... |
| 18:51.17 | seb82 | that's why i had this set up... |
| 18:51.21 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You might try running the client full screen - but that might require a power cycle to recover. |
| 18:51.43 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You can have a virtual desktop over ssh with x forwarding. |
| 18:51.55 | robin_sz | jhutchins_lt, really? seems odd ... I would have thought a gui involved a lot more bandwidth than a simple ssh remote shell |
| 18:52.06 | Iridos | valdyn, thanks, though, I think I see the logic (although don't like it much in some cases) |
| 18:52.18 | seb82 | full screen doesn't work... and over ssh with x didn't work... |
| 18:52.23 | jhutchins_lt | robin_sz: For text, yes. For GUI apps/desktop it depends on the network. |
| 18:52.55 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: ssh might be easier to fix... |
| 18:53.15 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Have you tried one of the other vnc clients? |
| 18:53.22 | themill | seb82: vbox has its own gui that does fullscreen. I'm confused why you're not using that |
| 18:53.23 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Have you tried a different vnc server? |
| 18:53.23 | seb82 | yeah but would the graphics be enough... I want to use this virtual also away from home... |
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| 18:53.33 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Are you using a new login or sharing the existing desktop? |
| 18:53.43 | robin_sz | jhutchins_lt, ah right. personally ive never needed a remote GUI on a linux box |
| 18:53.43 | seb82 | let me draw the situation... |
| 18:53.52 | twobitsprite | anyone know of the top of their heads how to get tshark to display port numbers as well as everything else? |
| 18:54.09 | webad_13 | when I log in remotely (ssh), I am asked for sudo password immediately (even without initiating it). Does anyone know how to disable this? |
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| 18:54.30 | jhutchins_lt | webad_13: No, because we don't know how you set it up. |
| 18:54.46 | seb82 | I've got a laptop which is nearly 8 years old... it runs debian natively without issues... |
| 18:54.52 | jhutchins_lt | webad_13: Sudo should ask for the user password, what is causing sudo to run? |
| 18:55.13 | seb82 | but vbox on this system... with only 640 mb of ram... is not much... |
| 18:55.19 | webad_13 | well, to be honest I don't know either - it just worked fine and then I updated it (debian sid) and now it asks for this. I'll pastebin my sudoers |
| 18:55.35 | seb82 | so I installed vbox on my win7 box... which only can run with win7 (insurrance policy) |
| 18:55.48 | seb82 | okay... then I installed debian in vbox (virtual box not virtual pc) |
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| 18:56.38 | seb82 | erm jhutchins_lt... when I don't have it on fullscreen... the input works... weird... |
| 18:57.02 | webad_13 | jhutchins_lt: http://pastebin.com/TGsxz0GT , here I don't think there is anything strange about it. I'll paste by bashrc and bash_profile in a sec |
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| 18:58.18 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: I'm sorry to say that I've found most vnc setups to have quirks like that. I just live with 'em or try a different vnc client or server. |
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| 18:58.31 | seb82 | which vnc client would you suggest then? |
| 18:58.44 | jhutchins_lt | You've tried tightvnc, try realvnc. |
| 18:58.51 | seb82 | does that work on linux? |
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| 18:58.59 | seb82 | perhaps a dumb question... |
| 18:59.03 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: NO guarnatees, it's just something to try. |
| 18:59.09 | seb82 | owkay and else? |
| 18:59.17 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude search vnc |
| 18:59.25 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You can also try rdp. |
| 18:59.33 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You can also try xauth over ssh. |
| 18:59.50 | seb82 | rdp doesn't work for some reason on my win7 box |
| 19:00.04 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: rdp to the virtual debian. |
| 19:00.05 | webad_13 | jhutchins_lt: oh, I just found it, I am using sudo in my bash_profile.... however before the upgrade it was fine. When I would log in it would automatically apply this mod without asking for password |
| 19:00.19 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: You have to select the correct protocol for w7 and linux rdp. |
| 19:00.24 | seb82 | ah kk |
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| 19:00.50 | jhutchins_lt | webad_13: You're using sid. If you're expecting consistency you're going to be consistently disappointed. |
| 19:01.06 | seb82 | no realvnc on debian |
| 19:01.09 | webad_13 | jhutchins_lt: ahahahh, good one |
| 19:01.54 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.4/install_debian.html |
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| 19:02.30 | seb82 | atleast in the packages... |
| 19:02.51 | seb82 | I'll look into it... thx jhutchins_lt... |
| 19:03.26 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Also xvnc4viewer, as well as framebuffer and gtk clients. |
| 19:03.50 | jhutchins_lt | No idea what x2vnc is. |
| 19:03.56 | seb82 | already downloading those |
| 19:04.01 | seb82 | lol |
| 19:04.02 | seb82 | thx |
| 19:04.49 | seb82 | xvnc4viewer has ugly graphics... probably needs some tweaking |
| 19:05.27 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: There's also an rdp server for linux that would let you connect directly to the debian vm. |
| 19:05.42 | seb82 | owkay okay cool |
| 19:05.54 | seb82 | gvncviewer is acceptable... now to see if we can it full screen |
| 19:06.19 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Realvnc also has an xorg module to share the current desktop directly from X. |
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| 19:06.45 | seb82 | ah kk |
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| 19:08.14 | seb82 | owkay cool |
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| 19:13.03 | seb82 | jhutchins_lt: funny the page you suggest speaks of a deb file to install... on the download page... there is none... |
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| 19:15.02 | jhutchins_lt | http://www.realvnc.com/vnc/features.html |
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| 19:16.42 | seb821 | i'm also seb821... only now from within my virtual debian |
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| 19:17.26 | jhutchins_lt | seb821: I haven't actually installed it on debian, I've used it on CentOS/RedHat. |
| 19:17.53 | seb821 | ah kk |
| 19:18.04 | seb821 | but the first I tried is working okay now |
| 19:18.13 | seb821 | this weekend I can try it away from home... |
| 19:18.26 | webad_13 | can anyone reccomend good stock tracking (technical analysis) software for linux. I saw LinuxTrade and I like that it is console - is there another one in console since this project is discontinued |
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| 19:20.12 | seb821 | thx so far jhutchins_lt |
| 19:20.19 | jhutchins_lt | seb821: I'm not having any luck finding packages without registering on the website. |
| 19:20.45 | jhutchins_lt | seb821: Which is probably why it's not in Debian, and may be something that happened in the last two years since I last used it. |
| 19:21.08 | jhutchins_lt | webad_13: aptitude search ~dstock |
| 19:21.17 | jhutchins_lt | webad_13: http://sourceforge.net |
| 19:21.19 | seb821 | that's okay... it works like a charm with xvnc4viewer |
| 19:21.24 | dkr | webad_13: I use thinkorswim on debian (java app) and also oocalc for spreadsheets doing dividend yields and the like |
| 19:21.25 | seb821 | it doesn't loose its input anymore |
| 19:21.31 | jhutchins_lt | seb821: That's all you need then. |
| 19:21.44 | seb821 | yup thx |
| 19:22.05 | jhutchins_lt | seb821: All the different vnc packages are just forks of the same project. They have different options and optimizations. |
| 19:22.21 | dkr | heh, beancounter is cutely named |
| 19:22.59 | seb821 | as long as it works... |
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| 19:25.16 | webad_13 | dkr: thanx but I am looking ideally for something command line and free :) |
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| 19:33.47 | arnoldB | I'd like to check if a package is available using apt* within a bash script and prevent getting an exit code ! = 0, if the package does not exist. Which would be the best way? |
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| 19:38.26 | arnoldB | solved. |
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| 19:39.14 | dkr | webad_13: well, I have something command line and free. it's called perl. :) heh, seriously I do write simple little scripts like "gain" that takes 3 args of number of shares buy price and sell price, and tells me cost and gain in $ and % |
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| 20:02.29 | seb82 | jhutchins_lt: how much bandwith does rdp take? |
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| 20:03.39 | wols | !tell mcmat about errors |
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| 20:06.21 | mcmat | wols, i built the custom kernel a few monthes ago so i don't have the exact error messages, but i just found this thread on a forum: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=55834 which describes exactly the same symptoms for someone who built his custom kernel |
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| 20:07.15 | mcmat | in the forum thread, they tell the guy to get rid of dkms, which was fine for me as long as i did not need to build a custom module |
| 20:07.38 | mcmat | but not anymore now.... |
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| 20:12.01 | blubberdiblub | mcmat, if the stock debian kernel doesn't have this problem, why not try starting with the stock kernel's config and adjusting that instead of starting from a fresh config? |
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| 20:12.58 | ksx4system | how do I determine which graphics driver do I use? |
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| 20:13.50 | mcmat | blubberdiblub, actually my patched 2.6.37 .config was based on a vanilla debian kernel config (2.6.32 iirc). I just changed one or two things and compiled with make-kpkg --jobs 4 --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=001 kernel_image kernel_headers |
| 20:14.24 | mcmat | kbuild was 2.6.32 one |
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| 20:14.47 | mcmat | sorry, i mean: the kbuild package was linux-kbuild-2.6.32 |
| 20:15.48 | blubberdiblub | mcmat, and blcr-dkms installs fine with a stock debian kernel? (that's the prerequisite to my suggestion, otherwise its of no use) |
| 20:15.52 | wols | mcmat: are linux-headers installed? |
| 20:17.24 | mcmat | blubberdiblub, i do have blcr-dkms package installed, and it works well with my debian vanilla 3.0.0 kernel |
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| 20:18.31 | songmachine | hi all |
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| 20:19.35 | zastaph | are there some kind of program to help me setup samba shares? like ubuntu has a share option from the GUI.. messing with smb.conf doesn't get me far even after 5 guides |
| 20:20.02 | mcmat | wols, when i try to install the linux headers package generated by make-kpkg i get the following errors: |
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| 20:21.35 | songmachine | who uses wine? |
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| 20:22.58 | mcmat | http://paste.debian.net/128767 |
| 20:23.03 | Gandolfo | where can i get support about wine? |
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| 20:23.59 | songmachine | Gandolfo with what? |
| 20:24.11 | Gandolfo | http://pastebin.com/wpvKdwpF |
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| 20:24.35 | Gandolfo | why this program dont work? (http://pastebin.com/wpvKdwpF) |
| 20:24.42 | wols | mcmat: maybe your letters in the packagenames are too funky |
| 20:24.59 | mcmat | wols, you mean the '+' |
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| 20:27.13 | Gandolfo | songmachine http://pastebin.com/wpvKdwpF |
| 20:27.22 | blubberdiblub | if so, it would probably be dkms' fault, since apparently the debian policy allows + signs in package names -> section 5.6.1 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html |
| 20:28.34 | twobitsprite | songmachine: I prefer beer |
| 20:29.10 | songmachine | Gandolfo i cant help with u question...... i need help with wine too actually..... |
| 20:29.32 | wols | mcmat: yes |
| 20:29.39 | Gandolfo | no channel like #wine exist ? |
| 20:29.48 | wols | !wine |
| 20:29.48 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are not supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See also <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See <newer wine>. |
| 20:29.49 | twobitsprite | Gandolfo: there's #winehq |
| 20:29.55 | songmachine | No.... i dont like beer.... and other alcohol:) |
| 20:30.49 | mcmat | wols, blubberdiblub i try to rebuild the kernel without the funky +, i'll tell you if you still there |
| 20:30.50 | songmachine | how to set /home as default in wine..... for install there games and other program? |
| 20:31.27 | twobitsprite | songmachine: you mean, instead of using ~/.wine? |
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| 20:32.18 | songmachine | in winehq no one helps |
| 20:32.49 | songmachine | may be,,, |
| 20:32.57 | twobitsprite | songmachine: what are you trying to do? |
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| 20:34.06 | songmachine | i dont know ..... but in /usr (wine direction) i have no place for install anything, so i need chande folder to /home |
| 20:34.43 | twobitsprite | songmachine: what are you trying to install... are you installing wine itself, or running a windows application installer in wine? |
| 20:34.53 | mcmat | wols, blubberdiblub : actually i don't know where this + comes from. In kernel config, i set CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="-amd64-mat". So i guess this is make-kpkg which adds the + |
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| 20:35.47 | songmachine | or running a windows application installer in wine? |
| 20:35.54 | songmachine | or running a windows application installer in wine* |
| 20:36.30 | JonyDep | goto /root/.wine/...... |
| 20:36.31 | twobitsprite | if you're running a windows installer in wine, the default should be to install it in $HOME/.wine/drive_c |
| 20:36.41 | twobitsprite | JonyDep: /root?? you run wine as root? |
| 20:36.55 | JonyDep | yes $HOME Sorry bro |
| 20:37.26 | songmachine | all of apps what i installed save to /usr..... i need change to /home |
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| 20:37.45 | twobitsprite | songmachine: they insall directly to /usr? |
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| 20:38.00 | twobitsprite | songmachine: that is not the default for wine apps... you must have changed your configuration |
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| 20:38.42 | twobitsprite | songmachine: I believe the option for the c_drive is set in winecfg |
| 20:38.53 | songmachine | in wine i see drive_c... but saved to /usr |
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| 20:39.17 | twobitsprite | so you have a /usr/drive_c? |
| 20:39.26 | songmachine | how to install on /home folder? |
| 20:39.47 | twobitsprite | like I said, I'm pretty sure that's set in winecfg |
| 20:40.13 | songmachine | ok....and how to config? |
| 20:40.26 | g00se | Just trying to use xvnc4viewer so that i don't have to scroll. I must be doing something wrong or have a wrong conception. server:1280x1024, client:1024x800, command: xvnc4viewer -geometry '1024x819' Yet i still have to scroll. What gives? |
| 20:40.50 | twobitsprite | songmachine: when you rune winecfg, there's a "drives" tab, you should be able to change the location of your drives there |
| 20:40.51 | songmachine | no... i have drive_c only.... but all install to /usr |
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| 20:41.35 | fabiobik | hello guys i have an usb card alfa awuso36h and i want to set to full power |
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| 20:41.43 | fabiobik | does anyone knows how to doo it? |
| 20:42.01 | songmachine | where can i paste image? |
| 20:42.07 | fabiobik | also i want to change transfer rate |
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| 20:42.39 | blubberdiblub | songmachine, imageshack, tinypic, etc. |
| 20:42.50 | songmachine | ok... tnx |
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| 20:43.05 | FreeNET | re |
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| 20:44.07 | fabiobik | hello guys i have an usb card alfa awuso36h and i want to set to full power |
| 20:44.18 | twobitsprite | !tell fabiobik about repeat |
| 20:44.41 | fabiobik | sorry |
| 20:44.46 | jhutchins_lt | fabiobik: What kind of card is it? |
| 20:45.00 | feisar | Hi, I'm running '# dpkg-reconfigure console-data' and selecting my apple keyboard which assigns the keys perfectly... until I reboot. Can anyone explain how to 'save' these settings? |
| 20:45.16 | fabiobik | jhutchins_lt, its wireless usb card |
| 20:45.31 | songmachine | http://file.qip.ru/photo/roOTJvsw/óÎÉÍÏË.html |
| 20:45.45 | songmachine | there.... all drives |
| 20:46.12 | twobitsprite | songmachine: I don't see /usr list there... what do you see in /usr that makes you think windows apps are getting installed there? |
| 20:46.31 | songmachine | i show u... |
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| 20:47.17 | amphi | fabiobik: can you use iwconfig to set the txpower on it? or perhaps you can fiddle with it via sysfs |
| 20:47.44 | fabiobik | amphi ive typed on comand line iwconfig |
| 20:47.52 | fabiobik | but says not found |
| 20:48.02 | amphi | you need to be root |
| 20:48.29 | twobitsprite | fabiobik: /sbin/iwconfig |
| 20:48.39 | feisar | anyone know how to make console-data settings survive a reboot? |
| 20:48.54 | fabiobik | twobitsprite, what i would doo with that? |
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| 20:49.17 | twobitsprite | fabiobik: the iwconfig command is in /sbin, and you probably don't have /sbin in your path |
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| 20:49.18 | songmachine | http://file.qip.ru/photo/ZKL65K1l/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA_2.html |
| 20:49.49 | twobitsprite | songmachine: that's the wine executable, not your windows apps |
| 20:49.58 | twobitsprite | that's supposed to be in /usr/bin |
| 20:50.01 | fabiobik | twobitsprite, so to do what i want its how? |
| 20:50.12 | twobitsprite | fabiobik: run "/sbin/iwconfig" |
| 20:50.13 | amphi | fabiobik: try using it set the transmit power - see man iwconfig |
| 20:50.14 | songmachine | yeah.... so where saved windows apps? |
| 20:50.14 | fabiobik | SET BO RATE |
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| 20:50.48 | twobitsprite | songmachine: looks like your C: drive is set to $HOME/.wine/drive_c |
| 20:51.04 | songmachine | its mean /home ? |
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| 20:51.23 | twobitsprite | songmachine: try looking in "$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program files" |
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| 20:52.17 | songmachine | how to do it? |
| 20:52.17 | fabiobik | oh god |
| 20:52.22 | fabiobik | how to close the man |
| 20:52.27 | fabiobik | ctrl + c |
| 20:52.29 | twobitsprite | fabiobik: q |
| 20:52.35 | fabiobik | oh kk |
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| 20:52.42 | twobitsprite | songmachine: do what? |
| 20:52.56 | twobitsprite | how to look in a directory? |
| 20:52.56 | songmachine | try looking in "$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program files" |
| 20:53.29 | twobitsprite | songmachine: in your file browser go to your home directory, then go in to ".wine", then in to "drive_c" .... |
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| 20:54.34 | fabiobik | twobitsprite, whats the most stable rate? |
| 20:54.39 | fabiobik | do you know? |
| 20:54.48 | twobitsprite | fabiobik: no idea |
| 20:55.05 | fabiobik | twobitsprite, kk i will test |
| 20:56.12 | songmachine | http://file.qip.ru/photo/gy2XfzZo/óÎÉÍÏË_3.html |
| 20:56.13 | songmachine | there is my /home |
| 20:56.33 | blubberdiblub | songmachine, switch on the option for displaying hidden files and directories in your file manager |
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| 20:56.47 | songmachine | i see no any wine |
| 20:57.15 | songmachine | how to do it? |
| 20:57.33 | jhutchins_lt | songmachine: Adjusting targeting computers now... |
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| 20:59.02 | songmachine | oh man, tnx so much.... now i see:) |
| 20:59.21 | seb82 | erm who knows a bit about vbox ose? |
| 20:59.31 | songmachine | try to run GTA IV ^_^ |
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| 21:00.38 | seb82 | i'm getting a NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) |
| 21:00.53 | bolt | how can I clean out the nvidia drivers after having done m-a a-i nvidia? |
| 21:01.01 | bolt | they didn't work well and i don't want to have them around |
| 21:01.13 | songmachine | by the way.... whats better, wine or virtual machine, like virtual box and other? |
| 21:01.24 | onryo | What is/will be the default sound server in wheezy. Rumor has it that it will not be Pulseaudio but ALSA? |
| 21:01.47 | valdyn | onryo: thats a stack, not alternatives ( alsa and pa ) |
| 21:03.18 | onryo | valdyn OK technical your right. All the same I hear that Pulseaudio is not really on the table. |
| 21:03.37 | valdyn | onryo: last i checked debian had no defaults there except what upstream ships |
| 21:04.04 | valdyn | onryo: i dont really kno wheezy plans though |
| 21:04.19 | twobitsprite | songmachine: if your app runs in wine, you're probably better with that |
| 21:04.49 | blubberdiblub | onryo, you can always install pulseaudio, if you want it. or some other networt audio system. i like it better not being forced (or pushed) to use one specifically, or any at all |
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| 21:06.05 | onryo | valdyn I am on testing with gnome. I like it even if Gnome is a bit sloppy. ALSA is a clean workable deamon. Through the years the sound stacks have become piles of junk. |
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| 21:06.20 | valdyn | onryo: its not a daemon |
| 21:06.35 | blubberdiblub | onryo, if you only need desktop sound, you are fine with only alsa for most practical purposes |
| 21:06.43 | valdyn | onryo: its crappy and lacking features, but it works good enough for many I guess |
| 21:07.09 | valdyn | onryo: ( the "crappy" refers to a specific part of alsa, the userspace library, not the drivers or in-kernel stuff ) |
| 21:07.30 | onryo | valdyn I would never even thing about using PA if it was not for speex. I need to have echo cancellation. |
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| 21:07.36 | songmachine | there are many apps that i use, and i dont know if i completely give up windows OS |
| 21:07.56 | onryo | valdyn, think* |
| 21:08.08 | karlpinc | onryo: I like it that pulseaudio can play sounds when you're not logged in. |
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| 21:08.29 | valdyn | onryo: like many people you dont seem to need features that are part of "modern" systems, thats fine... |
| 21:08.49 | valdyn | onryo: Im surprised that speex should require pa |
| 21:09.01 | songmachine | i don't know what better, use windows and linux, or linux only with wine/ virtual box |
| 21:09.30 | twobitsprite | songmachine: completely depends on your needs and which you like |
| 21:09.46 | twobitsprite | songmachine: a lot of people dual boot, but then you can only run one at a time and have to reboot to use the other... |
| 21:10.00 | onryo | valdyn sadly it does if you want echo cancellation |
| 21:10.14 | valdyn | onryo: I see |
| 21:10.19 | twobitsprite | songmachine: on the other hand, if you have a powerful enough machine, you can just run windows in vbox, but it depends on what you do with it. I wouldn't play high graphics games in vbox |
| 21:10.41 | valdyn | onryo: well, I wouldnt see this as a problem, pa works fine as anything else |
| 21:11.41 | onryo | valdyn sighhhh.... the other day I set up a computer to use JACK with a RT kernel. Seems like tonight its going to be PA.. |
| 21:11.45 | songmachine | i use in windows OS apps like photoshop, ms office and may be autocad...... and games run too, like gta iv, test drive unlimited |
| 21:12.24 | valdyn | songmachine: do yourself a favour and use windows then |
| 21:12.27 | onryo | songmachine, then why are you using Debian |
| 21:12.27 | jhutchins_lt | songmachine: I have't used Windows since 2004. |
| 21:13.03 | onryo | valdyn, you read mine and about 1122 ppl minds here. |
| 21:13.04 | twobitsprite | songmachine: a lot of those apps will run in wine... |
| 21:13.22 | songmachine | my system: AMD Athlon II X4 640@3.0GHz, RAM DDR3 1333MHz@2Gb, GeForce GTS 250@1Gb |
| 21:13.29 | jhutchins_lt | songmachine: There's gimp for image manipulation, Open or Libre Office, and there are good Linux games as well. |
| 21:13.37 | twobitsprite | songmachine: there's also GIMP which is a lot like photoshop and runs native in linux... not quite as powerful as photoshop, but still pretty nice |
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| 21:13.46 | karlpinc | songmachine: You need to be willing to pay for those, repeatedly over time, or be willing to break the law and suffer the insecurities of pirated softfware. I decided long ago where the real value lay. |
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| 21:14.11 | onryo | karlpinc, he is just trolling |
| 21:14.23 | jhutchins_lt | Having to pay so much money for software, and having to pay over and over again got old. |
| 21:14.29 | onryo | karlpinc, or really freaking dumb |
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| 21:14.48 | twobitsprite | onryo: I don't think he's trolling... |
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| 21:15.05 | songmachine | i use debian coz its secure OS, and i can configure all that u want |
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| 21:15.07 | jhutchins_lt | songmachine: If I were you, I'd just run dual boot for now and get used to Linux. |
| 21:15.23 | fabiobik | wow |
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| 21:15.28 | fabiobik | the sound is not working |
| 21:15.42 | jhutchins_lt | Is an athalon II going to have hardware virt? |
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| 21:15.58 | karlpinc | onryo: Some folks have invested too much of their brain in non-free software and will someday pay the price when whatever they happen to be using dies a corporate death. |
| 21:16.11 | fabiobik | does anyone knows how to enable sound? |
| 21:16.32 | valdyn | !tell fabiobik -about ask |
| 21:16.46 | AimHere | Doesn't free software become obsolete too? |
| 21:16.47 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: Been there, done that. Also been the guy hired to clean up the mess when a business did that. |
| 21:16.55 | fabiobik | valdyn, the sound is not working... how to enable it? |
| 21:16.57 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: Me too. |
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| 21:16.59 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, it looks more recent than mine, and mine can do hw virt |
| 21:17.12 | onryo | karlpinc, funny thing is that I take pride in not even knowing what half that junk he talked about was...and I am not trolling =P |
| 21:17.13 | valdyn | fabiobik: read what dpkg told you. Dont ask me about sound. |
| 21:17.29 | jhutchins_lt | !tell fabiobik about alsa checklist |
| 21:18.49 | onryo | got some PA installing to do.... uuuuggg. Back in a while. |
| 21:19.11 | karlpinc | AimHere: Yes and no. It can fade away when sometime better comes along, which is easier to live with and, I believe, happens at least an order of magnitude less often. Plus, the surrounding environment/vocabularly does not change because, e.g., RFCs don't die. You can think of it as the same process by which interoperable standards are replaced rather than a sudden death. |
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| 21:19.24 | karlpinc | s/sometime/something/ |
| 21:19.43 | songmachine | i think i'll use untill windows and debian together.... im not ready to decide.... |
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| 21:20.21 | dimaruro9 | hello |
| 21:21.21 | jhutchins_lt | AimHere: For instance, I have an accountant at a law firm who's been running the same copy of Quick Books for ~10 years. It started being unable to do it's automatic backups several years ago, but was far enough out of date that Intuit support couldn't help. They also can't tell us if she can upgrade to the current version without loosing her data. |
| 21:21.26 | songmachine | what video and music player on debian? in windows i use, itunes, vls, wmp, and KM player |
| 21:21.33 | songmachine | what about* |
| 21:21.57 | antoine7 | you can use amarok |
| 21:22.02 | antoine7 | <@ songmachine @>· |
| 21:22.03 | karlpinc | songmachine: You want to install debtags and use it to search the package database. |
| 21:22.14 | onryo | On Debian is /etc/asound.conf or /home/user/.asoundrc got to make the asound file for PA. |
| 21:22.55 | antoine7 | <@ songmachine @>· or instead use mplayer |
| 21:22.57 | onryo | and Arch, Ubuntu, etc seem to be 50/50 on where that file goes |
| 21:22.57 | blubberdiblub | songmachine, there are _a lot_ of media players to choose from |
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| 21:23.15 | jhutchins_lt | songmachine: Amarok is like iTunes without the store (store plugins available), vlc is also popular and works almost as often, banshee is a gnome based music manager, xine a lean player, and mplayer just plain works. |
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| 21:23.23 | antoine7 | http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html |
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| 21:23.28 | antoine7 | I like that one :) |
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| 21:23.34 | Amarande | So ... does Debian 6 support USB keyboards during the installation phase, or will I need to obtain a PS/2 keyboard before I can install it? |
| 21:23.37 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: Any opinion about rockbox? |
| 21:23.51 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: Haven't messed with it yet. |
| 21:24.01 | karlpinc | Amarande: USB keyboards are no problem. (The install guide is your friend. :-) |
| 21:24.04 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: I really don't like Amarok for 4.x though. |
| 21:24.11 | onryo | songmachine, If you want all that stuff there is a Linux made just for that http://ubuntustudio.org/ |
| 21:24.51 | karlpinc | songmachine: And unless you're paying for your MS Windows software muse on the hidden costs, to you that is, of pirated sofware. |
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| 21:25.54 | songmachine | tnx guys.... u best:) |
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| 21:26.42 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, have you tried clementine? it tries to be an amarok-1.4-look-and-feel-alike. it cannot use mysql, tho, AFAIR, only sqlite databases (which is fine for most uses) |
| 21:26.59 | twobitsprite | karlpinc: hidden costs of pirated software? |
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| 21:27.35 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: Thanks for the suggestion. I've never gotten around to integrating my four clients into a single database. |
| 21:28.26 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: Doesn't look like it pulls in a lot of cruft either. |
| 21:28.44 | g00se | Just trying to use xvnc4viewer so that i don't have to scroll. I must be doing something wrong or have a wrong conception. server:1280x1024, client:1024x800, command: xvnc4viewer -geometry '1024x819' Yet i still have to scroll. What gives? |
| 21:28.57 | Woet | Amarande: PS/2 still exists? |
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| 21:29.35 | Amarande | Woet, I'm still using a Socket 939 board. :) |
| 21:29.57 | Amarande | But yeah, PS/2 still exists, Unicomp even still makes keyboards for it |
| 21:30.05 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: I can't say I'm surprised that someone did that. |
| 21:30.28 | mrtnt | During Debian installation I can choose between "linux-image-2.6-amd64" and "linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64". Which one of those two is newer? |
| 21:30.33 | jhutchins_lt | Woet: A lot of laptops use PS/2 for the input devices. |
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| 21:30.58 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, yeah, me neither. i would have like the program if it would be able to access mysql databases and if i hadn't switched my music setup over to mpd ;) |
| 21:31.00 | Amarande | mrtnt, I think the former is generally dpkg black magic to install the latest 2.6 image, whatever that may be |
| 21:31.20 | Amarande | essentially, a dummy package that depends on the latest image and thus will pull it |
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| 21:31.27 | Amarande | so if there's nothing newer than the latter then they should be the same |
| 21:31.30 | Woet | jhutchins_lt: i haven't seen a laptop released with PS/2 in at least 3 years |
| 21:31.41 | mrtnt | Amarande: I see, thanks! |
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| 21:32.11 | jhutchins_lt | Woet: They don't have PS/2 jacks, but the internal keyboard/trackpad are ps/2. |
| 21:32.57 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: You may have just made it possible for me to upgrade my lenny boxes! |
| 21:33.46 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, hehe :) |
| 21:33.46 | jhutchins_lt | blubberdiblub: It'd be cool if they could import the Amarok databases. |
| 21:34.17 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_lt, i'm not sure about that. probably not |
| 21:34.18 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: not even amarok clones are able (or willing) to import amarok dbs |
| 21:34.46 | Amarande | jelly: heh, is the format that bad? |
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| 21:34.51 | jelly-home | hell, even amarok itself has problems importing older amarok dbs ;-) |
| 21:34.57 | BarkingFish | Good evening all :) |
| 21:35.04 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: What other clones are there? |
| 21:35.20 | jelly-home | Amarande: it's more like noone cares that much to provide upgrade or migration paths |
| 21:35.43 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: been using Clementine for a couple months |
| 21:36.24 | BarkingFish | I wonder if you could help me for a few moments, I've been working on a package failure-to-build error in Kubuntu, and I've had an update which fixes the particular problem accepted by kubuntu. The dev who's been assisting me, Scott Kitterman, suggested I also send the patch to you, since it fixes the problem. |
| 21:36.32 | BarkingFish | How do I do this, and who do I send it to please? |
| 21:36.49 | jhutchins_lt | I updated iTunes on a Mac last week and it took five or six hours to update the metadata on the music. Couldn't use it the whole time. |
| 21:36.56 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: library update or rescan is much faster and doesn't take silly amounts of resources |
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| 21:37.27 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: Depends on where the library is. Part of the Mac's problem is a slow wifi connection to the server that has all the files. |
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| 21:37.30 | seb82 | jhutchins_lt: wot was that rdp thing you spoke about? |
| 21:37.36 | jhutchins_lt | rdp |
| 21:37.45 | jhutchins_lt | Remote Desktop Protocol |
| 21:37.48 | seb82 | that the server that runs on linux? |
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| 21:38.28 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: ... |
| 21:38.37 | jhutchins_lt | xrdp |
| 21:38.42 | seb82 | okay |
| 21:39.05 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: As allways, aptitude search rdp |
| 21:39.27 | seb82 | okay... it's just getting late here... |
| 21:40.40 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: It's not late, it's early! |
| 21:40.50 | BarkingFish | incidentally, the bug I've fixed in kubuntu (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dammit/+bug/831128) is the same one listed here (http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dammit.html) - anyone able to tell me what I need to do with the patch please? |
| 21:41.03 | seb82 | here it is... 10:41 UK |
| 21:41.23 | seb82 | been up since 6 this morning uk thime |
| 21:41.26 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Well, ok, that's late. |
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| 21:41.42 | seb82 | wot time is it where u r? |
| 21:42.09 | jhutchins_lt | 10:41 GMT. |
| 21:42.30 | BarkingFish | ah, more UK people :) |
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| 21:42.48 | seb82 | ur from the UK as well? |
| 21:42.48 | BarkingFish | Good to know we're not all across the pond |
| 21:42.48 | archman | what might be the reason of turning the screen on all by itself? i use "xset dpms force off" with gnome-screensaver disabled, and i still get this behaviour. any ideas? |
| 21:42.59 | BarkingFish | seb82, yes - Milton Keynes |
| 21:43.01 | jhutchins_lt | seb82: Also 16:41 US CDT. |
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| 21:43.19 | seb82 | Redhill Surrey |
| 21:43.42 | seb82 | 1641 hours is early yeah |
| 21:43.57 | jhutchins_lt | My wife spent two years in Penton Mewsey (near Andover, Hants), I got to spend some time there. I miss The White Heart being right across the street. |
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| 21:44.37 | jhutchins_lt | What I wouldn't give for a pint of real ale and some steak-and-kidney pie! |
| 21:44.53 | prsn | hi. After a power outage, my hd mounted itself read-only. Upon reboot, fsck failed, and I'm now manually fscking as root. |
| 21:44.54 | BarkingFish | I miss having fields just across the road from my old house, jhutchins_lt - I have a prison across the road from me now, and worse, I work there. |
| 21:45.00 | prsn | I get the message: |
| 21:45.30 | prsn | Entry '88A13d01' in <path to my mozilla cache> is a link to directory <similar path>, Clear<y>? |
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| 21:45.35 | jhutchins_lt | BarkingFish: We had sheep eating the flowers in the window. |
| 21:45.41 | prsn | what does that mean? |
| 21:45.43 | seb82 | BarkingFish; I'm on the otherside of London |
| 21:45.53 | jhutchins_lt | We'd best take our reminicences to #debian-offtopic |
| 21:46.03 | BarkingFish | yeah, but I still need a bit of help. |
| 21:46.27 | BarkingFish | I just need to know where I send stuff I've fixed which may be able to fix stuff for debian :) |
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| 21:47.01 | BarkingFish | i was told it was a good idea to pass my fix to you too. |
| 21:47.24 | icebrain | I think you can just post to the bug page |
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| 21:48.07 | seb82 | jhutchins_lt: never been to Penton Mewsey but it's like 72 miles from here |
| 21:48.13 | BarkingFish | ok, do you take openID logins? |
| 21:48.33 | icebrain | BarkingFish: I don't think you need to login, just install and run reportbug |
| 21:48.33 | ksx4system | can i securely disable ATA/ATAPI/MFM while compiling a kernel? i want to run it on my netbook, 100% sata based |
| 21:48.44 | icebrain | BarkingFish: if you're on Debian, that is |
| 21:48.49 | BarkingFish | i'm not |
| 21:48.56 | BarkingFish | I'm running Kubuntu 11.04 |
| 21:49.18 | seb82 | jhutchins_lt... I have installed xrdp installed on the server... |
| 21:49.22 | archman | is xset dpms problem fixed with xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+1 from backports? anyone here using video-intel? |
| 21:49.27 | icebrain | BarkingFish: alternatively, you can send an email to submit@bugs.debian.org... I think |
| 21:49.28 | BarkingFish | i'll post to the bug, and add the patch as an attachment for now |
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| 21:49.38 | BarkingFish | oh ok then, that's easier icebrain |
| 21:49.40 | BarkingFish | thanks |
| 21:50.41 | icebrain | BarkingFish: see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 21:51.11 | icebrain | BarkingFish: it has some examples of emails |
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| 21:52.09 | gomaaz_ | hi there |
| 21:52.17 | icebrain | gomaaz_: hi |
| 21:52.17 | seb82 | hi gomaaz_ |
| 21:52.17 | gomaaz_ | got an error after debian installation |
| 21:52.22 | gomaaz_ | "ondemand governor failed, too long transition latency of HW..." |
| 21:52.41 | gomaaz_ | whats up with that? |
| 21:52.42 | seb82 | do a paste on paste.debian.net |
| 21:53.28 | icebrain | gomaaz_: I think that's when the CPU takes too long to switch the frequency, so the system can't auto-adjust based on the current demand |
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| 21:53.43 | gomaaz_ | cam I deactivate autoadjust? |
| 21:53.54 | icebrain | that's what it did |
| 21:53.55 | ksx4system | can i securely disable ATA/ATAPI/MFM while compiling a kernel? i want to run it on my netbook, 100% sata based |
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| 21:54.09 | gomaaz_ | how? |
| 21:54.23 | pindemon | hello debian world... |
| 21:54.32 | abrotman | ksx4system: try it and see .. |
| 21:54.33 | seb82 | hello pindemon |
| 21:54.56 | pindemon | I'm trying to setup console fb to a certain resolution but everything I've tried until now is not working |
| 21:55.06 | icebrain | gomaaz_: it was automatically disabled. Now it's either on 'powersave' or 'performance', iinm |
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| 21:55.15 | pindemon | is there any issue using the nvidia driver (from nvidia) ans fb resolution? |
| 21:55.22 | icebrain | gomaaz_: you can change manually when you want, though |
| 21:55.24 | jelly-home | ksx4system: what's wrong with the distro kernel |
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| 21:55.44 | gomaaz_ | icebrain: just need to know how ^^ |
| 21:55.56 | jelly-home | pindemon: forget nvidia and fb at the same time |
| 21:55.57 | icebrain | gomaaz_: check cpufreq |
| 21:55.58 | gomaaz_ | config file anywhere? |
| 21:56.26 | jelly-home | pindemon: disable and stay away from fb console if you're using the binary driver |
| 21:56.28 | gomaaz_ | command not found |
| 21:56.30 | seb82 | lthutchinks_lt: i've installed gnome-rdp as client but only supports windows as host |
| 21:56.37 | icebrain | gomaaz_: the 'cpufrequtils' package has cpufreq-set, which lets you change it |
| 21:56.44 | hikenboot | I am looking for the best debian derivitive to run on an alix computer. Its for a firewall and possibly asterisk server later on I want to do some fairly advanced NAT 1:1 and things At first I was looking into XORP as a platform since its designed similar to a cisco router...question anyone have any better ideas or suggestions for an OS for it? |
| 21:56.49 | pindemon | jelly-home: and using debian nvidia driver? |
| 21:57.43 | jelly-home | pindemon: um, what debian nvidia driver? There's the open source nouveau, and the binary nvidia (same non-free thing, just packaged nicely) |
| 21:57.46 | gomaaz_ | think I don't have them installed Oo |
| 21:57.53 | gomaaz_ | could this be? |
| 21:58.06 | abrotman | hikenboot: this is #debian .. not #based-on-debian |
| 21:58.14 | icebrain | gomaaz_: sure, install the 'cpufrequtils' package |
| 21:58.18 | abrotman | hikenboot: and i told you last night .. use iptables |
| 21:58.30 | jelly-home | hikenboot: what is an "alix computer"? |
| 21:58.32 | pindemon | jelly-home: you're right, my mistake |
| 21:58.39 | seb82 | lthutchinks_lt: forget wot I said |
| 21:58.50 | pindemon | jelly-home: I meant nouveau |
| 21:59.00 | hikenboot | its an embeded computer with no VGA out |
| 21:59.17 | abrotman | but it has CGA! |
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| 21:59.18 | Amarande | how well is nouveau getting along in terms of recentish cards' DRI support? |
| 21:59.39 | Amarande | does it support the GTS 250 or will I need to use non-free still? |
| 21:59.49 | jelly-home | pindemon: nouveau can use KMS, and you should be able to set resolutions there if the monitor was connected and switched on at boot time |
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| 22:00.13 | hikenboot | abrotman...I would use IPTables but I have a space limitation issue so I am looking for the best assembled platform for it...I have spent some time looking at voyage linux and debian with XORP packages installed. |
| 22:00.18 | icebrain | Amarande: if no one here knows, try asking #nouveau (I'm an AMD user, sorry) |
| 22:00.29 | pindemon | jelly-home: I'm using a macbook pro 3,1 santarosa |
| 22:00.29 | jelly-home | pindemon: (kernel modesetting automatically switches the console to fb) |
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| 22:00.38 | pindemon | jelly-home: thus should work |
| 22:00.42 | abrotman | hikenboot: emdebian ? |
| 22:00.46 | jelly-home | pindemon: if you send me one I'll be able to confirm |
| 22:00.55 | abrotman | !tell hikenboot about emdebian |
| 22:00.57 | BarkingFish | icebrain, ok I've sent it through for now. I doubt I've done it properly, so I'll probably get a flea in my ear, but I hope it helps :) |
| 22:01.00 | hikenboot | ok havent seen tath one yet |
| 22:01.24 | icebrain | BarkingFish: thanks |
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| 22:01.40 | Amarande | heh, I pretty much permanently gave up on AMD video cards due to their Linux support |
| 22:01.46 | BarkingFish | no problem |
| 22:01.48 | BarkingFish | hth |
| 22:01.52 | pindemon | jelly-home: if I send you one mac? sure... give me the address - pvt, obviously ;) |
| 22:02.04 | jelly-home | Amarande: fwiw my GT220 seems to work with nouveau from sid or ubuntu 11.04 (with some glitches but manageable) |
| 22:02.13 | seb821 | jhutchins_lt: rdp is working but it's not display my default gui... |
| 22:02.19 | Amarande | I'm not exactly sure why, but for at least a couple of *years* whenever I would try to use Linux with an ATI/AMD video card |
| 22:02.30 | icebrain | Amarande: works fine here, but I don't play 3D on it nor watch anything 'higher' than 720p |
| 22:02.37 | Amarande | every time a given X server process would close or lose control of the screen for ANY reason |
| 22:02.48 | Amarande | i.e., logging back out to GDM, or even trying to switch users |
| 22:02.54 | gomaaz_ | icebrain: changed the governor to "powersave" whith "cpufreq-set -g powersave" no luck after restart |
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| 22:03.19 | Amarande | there would be a kernel panic ... I'd keep checking the bug tracker for fglrx and it was acknowledged as a bug for at least two full major versions' lifespans, *without being fixed* |
| 22:03.23 | seb821 | wols: I'm trying rdp now |
| 22:03.28 | Amarande | so eventually I gave up on ATI entirely :| |
| 22:03.51 | pinkisntwell | i've read that when a process dies, its children are adopted by init. however, if i launch a process from a terminal and then close that terminal, the launched process is killed as well. what really happens? |
| 22:04.00 | icebrain | gomaaz_: sorry if I gave the wrong impression, that message won't disappear, it's simply the kernel telling you something about the hardware. Don't worry about it |
| 22:04.01 | seb821 | Amarande: I so see your point... I've got a laptop with an ATI card and I can't it work properly with an external screen |
| 22:04.05 | Amarande | nVidia has presumably had its share of bugs, but I don't think I've ever heard of any that cause kernel panic under such common, easily reproducible conditions |
| 22:04.32 | gomaaz_ | but the boot process stucks â¦. I guess |
| 22:04.44 | somiaj | pinkisntwell: the process is attached to the pesudo terminal so it dies with the terminal (its not because its a child of your shell -- that is different) |
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| 22:04.58 | icebrain | Amarande: I use 'radeon', not fglrx, and it's been pretty stable |
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| 22:05.28 | somiaj | pinkisntwell: you can 'nohup' or do other things to remove the precess from the terminal. Notice that some process is 'ps fax' are attached to terminals and others are not |
| 22:05.29 | Amarande | icebrain: yeah, I had to use radeon eventually, but at the time the 3870 had no DRI support without using fglrx |
| 22:05.30 | pinkisntwell | somiaj: so what is the new term here, "attachment" |
| 22:05.38 | pinkisntwell | ? |
| 22:05.42 | Amarande | and I couldn't even run any 3D stuff without the frame rate literally being 0. |
| 22:05.57 | shanepardue | Is there a workaround to get ntfs drives mounted in Debian Testing at the moment? There seems to be a bug introduced here recently. |
| 22:06.06 | Amarande | Literally. I ran WoW through Wine to see if it worked without DRI ... it runs, but you'd have to calculate the SPF, not the FPS :) |
| 22:06.11 | somiaj | pinkisntwell: reason is the terminal is the stdin/stdout/stderror of the process and that needs to be attached to something, so you usually need to redirect those when removing this. I don't know what its offically called. man nohup |
| 22:06.30 | somiaj | pinkisntwell: looks lke they call it a 'hang up' |
| 22:06.53 | seb821 | how can I exit an rdp-session on fullscreen? |
| 22:07.00 | somiaj | shanepardue: have you checked the bts, usually that is the first place any known workaround gets reported. |
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| 22:07.03 | pinkisntwell | somiaj: ah so when one of the stdin/stdout/stderr is lost the process is terminated? |
| 22:07.50 | somiaj | pinkisntwell: that is part of it, its because when the tty its attached to hangs up, its killed. again that man page I pointed out should give you more info than I can and point you to other things |
| 22:08.08 | ksx4system | where can I find graphics card drivers in "make menuconfig" (i try to compile kernel) |
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| 22:08.22 | pinkisntwell | somiaj: ok thanks a lot |
| 22:08.32 | ksx4system | Debian's kernel supports Intel NM10 chipset integrated gfx out of the box |
| 22:08.47 | ksx4system | i need to exclude everything but intel cards support |
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| 22:08.59 | shanepardue | somiaj: I'll have to take a look |
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| 22:09.50 | somiaj | shanepardue: standard testing fix is wait until the fix filters in from sid -- which could mean installing the sid package (provided the libc/core dependenceys aren't messed up if you don't want to wait) |
| 22:10.09 | Amarande | does the kernel source even *have* graphics chip drivers? I can't remember now, but I thought that was all handled through X, and sometimes through third party kernel drivers such as the ones that are part of the non-free nVidia and AMD drivers |
| 22:10.23 | dockimble | how does one upgrade yaboot on debianppc? |
| 22:10.45 | ksx4system | Amarande: these are open source drivers, included in Debian's stock kernel. works out of the box |
| 22:10.45 | abrotman | judd: kconfig CONFIG_AGP_INTE |
| 22:10.46 | judd | Searching for 'CONFIG_AGP_INTE' in squeeze kernel config gives AGP_INTEL=y. |
| 22:11.00 | Amarande | somiaj: if it's in backports, you can often just pull the source package from sid and build a testing package with it |
| 22:11.06 | Amarande | er, if it's not in backports |
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| 22:11.25 | somiaj | Amarande: people don't make backports for testing. Its not a frozen system |
| 22:11.32 | abrotman | ksx4system: so why not just use the Debian kernel as i tis? |
| 22:11.36 | seb821 | how can i make my rdp-session run gnome instead of xfce? |
| 22:11.36 | Amarande | ah. |
| 22:11.53 | Amarande | well, what I have noticed is that running testing, if you don't want to pull stuff from sid, you can often avoid pulling a lot of extra sid stuff by getting the source deb from sid |
| 22:11.59 | somiaj | Amarande: I'm just stating testing fixes take a while cause of having to filter though sid. (: |
| 22:12.14 | Amarande | and then running it through the tools to make a .deb that's built against the testing library versions :) |
| 22:12.35 | somiaj | Amarande: usually the differences are small or nonexistant. But yes if there is major differences that is prefered. |
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| 22:12.43 | ksx4system | abrotman: because I'll need newer one for SSD drive and I can't just get latest from backports because afaik it has some power usage issues. |
| 22:13.19 | ksx4system | and i'm trying to get custom kernel as light as possible |
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| 22:14.08 | abrotman | good luck .. |
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| 22:15.06 | ksx4system | abrotman: my first revision was good, everything but wi-fi (few commands to fix it, closed source shit) and graphics |
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| 22:16.04 | abrotman | ksx4system: okay, have fun! |
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| 22:17.18 | antoine7 | brb |
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| 22:18.00 | shanepardue | somiaj: I didn't see anything in experimental, but I could try Sid |
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| 22:18.56 | somiaj | shanepardue: no, I said read though the BTS on why the ntfs-3g driver or whatever is bugged in testing. If its not a known bug and you can reproduce it, report it |
| 22:19.10 | somiaj | shanepardue: I was just saying if there is a fix already, it could take a while to filter to testing is all. |
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| 22:19.51 | shanepardue | somiaj: Oh gotcha, misunderstood |
| 22:21.01 | somiaj | shanepardue: yea the sid comment was that you have to wait (or jump the gun (But be careful)) for it to filter though sid (if it is a package error) |
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| 22:23.10 | cpx | hi all , I'm experience difficulties in finding where is the iptables init script |
| 22:23.20 | cpx | i expeted it to be in /etc/init.d/ |
| 22:23.30 | cpx | but unfortunately it is not there |
| 22:24.13 | wols | there is none |
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| 22:24.59 | cpx | well is it possible to receive the status of the iptables |
| 22:25.03 | cpx | in that case |
| 22:25.16 | cpx | I expected it to be /etc/init.d/iptables status |
| 22:25.43 | jelly-home | cpx: /sbin/iptables-save |
| 22:25.55 | themill | perhaps you could define what you mean by the status of a configuration |
| 22:26.00 | cpx | well yes , but how to put the iptables rules up at startup |
| 22:26.04 | cpx | I mean during the boot |
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| 22:26.27 | cpx | Actually I want to run my rules during the startup of the system |
| 22:26.43 | cpx | usuallyt I add the iptables init script to the startup |
| 22:26.51 | cpx | with iptables-save before the startup |
| 22:26.57 | cpx | here I'm unable to do so :/ |
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| 22:35.44 | cpx | well it simly wont up the iptables with the reboot |
| 22:35.50 | Mneumonic | Hi I have a question for people familiar with Debian and other distros |
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| 22:35.58 | cpx | ask Mneumonic |
| 22:36.03 | jelly-home | cpx: there used to be an init script a long time ago but it got removed. Put iptables-restore in /etc/network/interfaces, on an "up" line for your default interface definition |
| 22:36.18 | Mneumonic | I am looking for a distro that will have minimal (hopefully zero) extra applications installed by default. |
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| 22:36.49 | jelly-home | debian base has what, 300MB of stuff? |
| 22:37.17 | jetscreamer | well if you go debian, just take the checkmarks off of tasksel |
| 22:37.18 | jelly-home | once you remove portmap is pretty minimal ;-) |
| 22:37.36 | Mneumonic | whats tasksel |
| 22:37.54 | jetscreamer | it's where you 'choose' packages.. ha. |
| 22:38.08 | adb | !tasksel |
| 22:38.08 | dpkg | tasksel is a program to select and install "tasks": a collection of packages for a system to perform a specific task (e.g. desktop environment, web server). Ask me about <standard task>, <server tasks> and <laptop task>. http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
| 22:38.14 | cpx | Mneumonic are you gonna install it on a slow computer? |
| 22:38.22 | jetscreamer | it's where you really select a role for your computer and it installs preselected assortments |
| 22:38.41 | Mneumonic | I say this because I'm ready to move away from an Ubuntu based distro and I like the idea of starting basic and installing all of my own applications (I would also like to learn how to compile from source and install some that way) |
| 22:38.49 | jetscreamer | HAH |
| 22:38.55 | Mneumonic | I tried Arch and really liked it but it just isn't compatible iwth my laptop right now |
| 22:38.57 | jetscreamer | ubuntu is debian based if you didn't kno |
| 22:39.16 | Mneumonic | I know |
| 22:39.21 | jetscreamer | oh ok |
| 22:39.26 | jetscreamer | its configged different |
| 22:39.30 | Mneumonic | I have nothing against Debian, I just don't agree with Ubuntu's way of doing things |
| 22:39.47 | Mneumonic | I feel bad constatly disliking Canonical but still using distros based on theirs |
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| 22:40.10 | jetscreamer | well, not 'config' but setup/default packages/yadda/ |
| 22:40.35 | Mneumonic | basically I liked the way Arch was set up out of the box |
| 22:40.38 | Mneumonic | it had like nothing installed at all |
| 22:40.57 | Mneumonic | and it was extremely fast and powerful |
| 22:41.12 | jetscreamer | there are 2 check marks selected by default, desktop and standard.. just uncheck em, it's minimal |
| 22:41.36 | jelly-home | no X, no horse, no moustache |
| 22:41.36 | themill | you may as well leave "standard" task selected. |
| 22:41.45 | Mneumonic | well honestly i would like to have a desktop |
| 22:41.47 | Mneumonic | basically... |
| 22:41.48 | jelly-home | standard is so huge |
| 22:42.02 | Mneumonic | I would like it to install a kernel, all the core stuff and xfce 4.8 |
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| 22:42.07 | Mneumonic | and leave me to the rest of the applications |
| 22:42.08 | jelly-home | hah |
| 22:42.28 | jelly-home | "just" xfce |
| 22:42.30 | jetscreamer | install what you want, after |
| 22:42.45 | Mneumonic | debian 6 is still the newest right? |
| 22:42.50 | Mneumonic | i have a debian 6 netinstall around here |
| 22:42.52 | jetscreamer | latest stable |
| 22:43.03 | Mneumonic | is there any reason to not using testing? |
| 22:43.11 | Mneumonic | I tried testing once on linux mint debian and liked it |
| 22:43.13 | themill | other than it's utterly broken? |
| 22:43.22 | jetscreamer | you'll find the packages are older than ubuntu's, probably... it's a dis derivative |
| 22:43.23 | Mneumonic | ok so stick with stable? |
| 22:43.28 | jetscreamer | s/dis/sid/ |
| 22:43.47 | themill | jetscreamer: how do you figure that? |
| 22:43.54 | Mneumonic | ah is there a better alternative to straight Debian that is more on the newer package side of things |
| 22:43.57 | jetscreamer | which |
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| 22:44.01 | cpx | jelly-home, post-up iptables-restore < /etc/myroute , that's at my interface config |
| 22:44.03 | jetscreamer | ubuntu is sid based? |
| 22:44.08 | Mneumonic | I'd rather not run a bunch of old packages |
| 22:44.11 | cpx | and still does not work |
| 22:44.17 | jetscreamer | they're not that old |
| 22:44.18 | Mneumonic | that was my problem with Crunchbang, everything i installed was 2 versions ago |
| 22:44.43 | icebrain | Mneumonic: well, there's aptosid |
| 22:44.46 | jelly-home | Mneumonic: and it didn't work at all? |
| 22:44.48 | themill | Mneumonic: does that matter? testing things is good... |
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| 22:45.40 | Mneumonic | well for one example, in crunchbang the icedove in the repository was a few versions ago and it didn't play good with the domain email i own, however newer thunderbird works out of the box with it. It required me to do a lot of messing around to get it to work |
| 22:45.46 | Mneumonic | I'd prefer to stick with newish packages |
| 22:45.54 | Mneumonic | atleast on par with other modern distros |
| 22:45.58 | icebrain | Mneumonic: for such problems, there's Backports too |
| 22:46.01 | jelly-home | cpx: hmph. how did it fail to work? the chains were still clean after that? |
| 22:46.20 | cpx | i should check it now |
| 22:46.28 | jelly-home | cpx: what if you used /sbin/iptables-restore ? |
| 22:46.29 | Mneumonic | What is aptosid |
| 22:46.32 | jetscreamer | i don't know about 'now' but generally speaking, testing is workable.. see also backports yes... but testing is one of those you break it you get to keep the pieces, usually |
| 22:46.43 | icebrain | !tell Mneumonic about aptosid |
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| 22:46.49 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 22:46.56 | jetscreamer | hey |
| 22:47.00 | jetscreamer | ltns |
| 22:47.16 | man_in_shack | is there a standard procedure for installing non-packaged python modules system-wide? |
| 22:48.06 | man_in_shack | i see /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages in python's sys.path, but what if there are different python versions installed? |
| 22:48.32 | dockimble | im running debian sid on an iBook G3 - how can i get yaboot to play nice with linux 3.0.0.1 and load my HD? |
| 22:48.32 | themill | man_in_shack: each different version of python has a different sys.path |
| 22:48.39 | man_in_shack | themill: yeah |
| 22:48.50 | man_in_shack | also there's creating the pyc files |
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| 22:48.56 | man_in_shack | isn't that stuff handled by python-central? |
| 22:49.27 | themill | man_in_shack: not for out-of-debian modules. (and hopefully not by python-central for very much longer at all) |
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| 22:49.41 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 22:49.56 | themill | man_in_shack: you can use pycompile to make the pyc files if you want |
| 22:50.19 | themill | man_in_shack: most modules come with a setup.py that should dtrt |
| 22:50.25 | Amarande | wait wait ... What. did I just see dockimble mention |
| 22:50.34 | Amarande | Did Linux kernel 3.0 finally hit? |
| 22:50.36 | themill | (and if it doesn't dtrt, cluebat the upstream authors) |
| 22:50.40 | icebrain | Amarande: yeah |
| 22:50.42 | jelly-home | Amarande: hit whom |
| 22:50.42 | dockimble | yes |
| 22:50.46 | cpx | oh jelly-home , I realized my problem |
| 22:50.49 | Hydroxide | Amarande: it's been out for a while |
| 22:50.50 | jetscreamer | try /lastlog dockimble |
| 22:50.54 | man_in_shack | Amarande: no, 3.0 didn't happen. it's actually 2.6.40 renamed to 3.0 |
| 22:51.00 | Amarande | what does it bring new to the table paradigm-wise? |
| 22:51.06 | cpx | ./bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward was not loaded |
| 22:51.10 | Hydroxide | Amarande: but, yeah, as man_in_shack implies, it's just a renumbeirng, not a radically new thing |
| 22:51.17 | man_in_shack | Amarande: some legacy systems have been removed. that's about it |
| 22:51.27 | jelly-home | Amarande: no paradigm shifts. One point and one number cut off tho |
| 22:51.28 | cpx | do you know how I could set this value permamently |
| 22:51.33 | icebrain | Amarande: nothing. According to Linus, that's the point: Linux doesn't have revolutions anymore |
| 22:51.43 | icebrain | (the kernel) |
| 22:51.48 | Amarande | Anything that we'd actually know about removed, or just a bunch of odd obscure stuff like the Foomaster 2342 or the like? :) |
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| 22:52.09 | Hydroxide | as jelly-home says, 3.0 is now a specific kernel version rather than a series like 2.6 was. 3.0.x is a sub-version like 2.6.x.y was |
| 22:52.12 | man_in_shack | Amarande: obscure unless you're running ancient legacy systems |
| 22:52.19 | jelly-home | Amarande: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges |
| 22:52.42 | man_in_shack | so i guess i'll just copy my modules to /usr/local/foo and pycompile them |
| 22:53.01 | cpx | I think I got it via /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 22:53.08 | man_in_shack | or maybe i should do the documentation first :D |
| 22:53.09 | cpx | and then sysctl -p |
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| 22:53.42 | cpx | thanks for the idea jelly-home |
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| 23:00.38 | fabiobik | hi guys how to make my laptop wireless card an acess point? |
| 23:00.57 | fabiobik | in windows 7 i was able to doo that with my laptop |
| 23:01.09 | fabiobik | is there any easy way to doo it with deb? |
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| 23:01.37 | echo083 | fabiobik, buy a dedicated relay box 20$ worth |
| 23:01.56 | echo083 | fabiobik, trust me the easiest |
| 23:02.02 | fabiobik | wot |
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| 23:02.18 | fabiobik | why? if my wireless card support it? |
| 23:02.26 | fabiobik | why spent money? |
| 23:02.49 | echo083 | fabiobik, to have the access point always available and there is no easy way on debian i think |
| 23:03.21 | fabiobik | echo083, define always avaiable |
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| 23:03.37 | fabiobik | i only want to share my internet connection with my android |
| 23:04.23 | echo083 | fabiobik, always available because it will be always switched on but your laptop not always |
| 23:04.45 | fabiobik | echo083, i dont need always avaiable |
| 23:04.56 | fabiobik | its an ap only for me to my android phone |
| 23:05.34 | nvz | anyone have that link to the hat matrix? |
| 23:06.08 | echo083 | fabiobik, ok ! i just gave you my opinion i never configured a network card to share a connection i can't help you to configure it sorrt |
| 23:06.28 | fabiobik | kk |
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| 23:10.12 | icebrain | hostapd can do it, if your card supports it. |
| 23:10.22 | icebrain | but don't ask me to help you configure it:| |
| 23:11.07 | echo083 | icebrain, nobody wants to put his hand inside such configurations |
| 23:11.10 | echo083 | icebrain, lol |
| 23:11.49 | icebrain | well, if it paid... ;) |
| 23:11.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | "how long do you work for $20" |
| 23:12.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course you learn many new and worthwhile things while trying to configure it as an AP |
| 23:12.29 | echo083 | CutMeOwnThroat, if you are a pretty babe i work forever lol |
| 23:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | thanks but no thanks |
| 23:13.43 | jetscreamer | what has changed in sudo that i must jump through additional hoops to enable nopassword in sudoers... what i have used to work flawlessly |
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| 23:13.51 | echo083 | CutMeOwnThroat, just bringing some folk in the most geek chan on the world |
| 23:14.12 | fabiobik | CutMeOwnThroat, hey if in windows 7 im able to doo it, on deb must can |
| 23:15.05 | icebrain | fabiobik: as I said, you can using the hostapd package, but it's not 'point and click', you need to learn how to configure it |
| 23:16.10 | fabiobik | icebrain thats simple just rtfm |
| 23:16.14 | fabiobik | ;) |
| 23:16.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | see you report in a week how it went |
| 23:16.50 | icebrain | fabiobik: well, you can check out the sample configuration file: http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=hostap.git;a=blob_plain;f=hostapd/hostapd.conf |
| 23:17.28 | icebrain | it only has 1058 lines |
| 23:19.58 | fabiobik | oh |
| 23:20.14 | fabiobik | you guys are so stupid |
| 23:20.35 | fabiobik | an ad hoc wifi solves my question |
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| 23:21.02 | abrotman | fabiobik: are you done insulting people? |
| 23:21.20 | echo083 | abrotman, yes it's a scandal |
| 23:22.00 | else | is there a tool that can be used to write to stdin of a program? |
| 23:22.08 | abrotman | echo083: i'm sure you have something better to do |
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| 23:22.38 | abrotman | else: echo ? .. need more details |
| 23:22.44 | echo083 | abrotman, like what ? |
| 23:23.14 | abrotman | echo083: you could also "myprog < somefile" |
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| 23:23.34 | echo083 | abrotman, i know how to write on stdin ... and i never asked |
| 23:24.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | gaah |
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| 23:24.19 | abrotman | echosorry .. |
| 23:24.37 | abrotman | else : you caould also "myprog < somefile"" or so |
| 23:24.49 | echo083 | abrotman, excuse ... accepted lol |
| 23:24.51 | abrotman | stupid insert key :) |
| 23:25.12 | else | abrotman: thanks |
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| 23:31.18 | TrueDD | Good night everybody |
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| 23:48.49 | jeeves_moss | what package has starutil in it? I can't find it. |
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| 23:51.31 | somiaj | jeeves_moss: have you tried apt-file or packages.debian.org to search. If it can't find it, its not in debian |
| 23:52.05 | jeeves_moss | somiaj, nope. what's the command again to search the repo? |
| 23:52.32 | somiaj | jeeves_moss: you have to install apt-file, then apt-file search |
| 23:52.50 | somiaj | jeeves_moss: packages.debian.org (near the bottom) as a forum you can just fill out for contents of a package |
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| 23:53.57 | jeeves_moss | somiaj, thanks. |
| 23:55.14 | karlpinc | !tell jeeves_moss about search |
| 23:55.44 | jeeves_moss | thanks guys |
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| 23:57.48 | gnarface | hey who should i talk to if i want to ask about adding fan speed support for a particular nvidia card to nvclock? their developers, or the "Debian NVIDIA Maintainers <pkg-nvidia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>" ? |
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| 23:58.33 | gnarface | predictably nvidia keeps dialing down the fan speeds with each patch release, and ... frankly i think 35% is too freaking low under load |
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| 23:59.10 | Arafangion | gnarface: Either, but whether someone will respond... |
| 23:59.31 | Arafangion | It's NVidia, debian's relationship with it is... tenacious. |
