| 00:00.00 | Arrowmaster | tasksel |
| 00:00.09 | arf | Arrowmaster, ta |
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| 00:00.14 | neoice | has anyone updated Xen to Squeeze yet? |
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| 00:00.38 | Mad7Scientst | My atheros b/g wifi doesn't work |
| 00:00.43 | neoice | release notes have warnings about pygrub, but I'm not using pygrub. |
| 00:00.49 | Mad7Scientst | It's in ad-hoc and I can't see it on the other computer |
| 00:00.56 | ranamalo | i setup a sftp server and I'm getting this error when I try to sign on Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer |
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| 00:01.02 | Mad7Scientst | I saw it show up in the scan once but now it won't come up anymore |
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| 00:01.09 | Mad7Scientst | and before that time when I saw it it didn't work either |
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| 00:01.17 | Mad7Scientst | I don't know what's going wrong |
| 00:01.48 | jelly-home | smacnay: libreoffice seems to be pretty much the continuation of go-oo project which is what Debian's OOo packages were based on anyway |
| 00:02.08 | ranamalo | kinda funny, on the server when I run sshd with -d it says: disconnected by user |
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| 00:03.11 | ranamalo | any ssh/sftp buffs out there? |
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| 00:03.18 | acx0 | I was reading through the release notes for upgrading lenny to squeeze, and they stated that it is recommended that apt-get be used over aptitude; is apt-get now the preferred tool to use? |
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| 00:03.49 | ranamalo | acx0: where did you see that? |
| 00:04.03 | arf | "release notes" |
| 00:04.04 | jelly-home | acx0: it's just recommended for this release upgrade, no more, no less |
| 00:04.18 | themill | acx0: on a day to day basis, aptitude is still pretty damned useful and is usually more handy; it just really stuffs up lenny->squeeze for some package sets |
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| 00:04.45 | Arrowmaster | was it ever identified why exactly aptitude messed up? |
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| 00:05.04 | jelly-home | naively looking, it tries to be too smart |
| 00:05.09 | jelly-home | and fails |
| 00:05.15 | arf | acx0, i noted that from <whatever> -> lenny they made the same recommendation. I guess aptitude isnt great at upgrades or something |
| 00:05.17 | themill | the number of package renames can't have helped |
| 00:05.24 | acx0 | I prefer aptitude as well, and I even used it for the upgrade (I read the note after: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html - mentioned at 4.4.6) |
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| 00:06.14 | sgn | How do I get that dialog that reconfigures sources.list? |
| 00:06.15 | jelly-home | it might probably be coerced to perform a full-upgrade with careful tuning of the solution |
| 00:06.21 | acx0 | I just ended up using "aptitude safe-upgrade --no-new-installs" and it seemed to do the same thing as "apt-get upgrade" |
| 00:06.48 | streuner_ | sgn: nano /etc/sources.list? :-P |
| 00:06.50 | themill | jelly-home: yeah, muck about with its scoring system and you could get it there |
| 00:07.02 | sgn | yeah, but there was an ncurses-based gui for it earlier? |
| 00:07.12 | arf | dselect |
| 00:07.18 | streuner_ | lol |
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| 00:07.42 | sgn | i installed from CD with no net, now i want to add local mirrors and secutiry |
| 00:08.00 | streuner_ | sgn: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 00:08.16 | themill | dpkg: tell sgn about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 00:09.12 | streuner_ | arf: dselect causes only nightmares to most the users.... |
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| 00:09.37 | orflon | has anyone installed mysql-workbench in Debian? Are there any packages? |
| 00:09.38 | arf | streuner_, right. i thought you guys were still talking about dist-upgrade. |
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| 00:11.25 | streuner_ | arf: i guess dselect would prolly make that job fine, but for mos of the users its a nightmare... |
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| 00:12.44 | arf | speaking of which, i did 'apt-get upgrade', then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' but ran out of space. It seems the package 'widelands-data' has recursive loops or something in it. Ive fixed the space issues, but its now stuck on Unpacking widelands-data (from .../widelands-data_1%3a15-2_all.deb) . How do i continue? |
| 00:13.14 | arf | i dont even want this anymore, but it still wants to install it for some reason |
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| 00:13.38 | jordanm | arf: use dpkg to remove it |
| 00:14.18 | arf | i had to use dpkg --force-reinstall-reqired... next apt-get dist-upgrade still tried again to install it |
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| 00:14.52 | twinkie_addict | hello |
| 00:14.54 | jordanm | arf: dpkg --remove widelands-data; you will also need to remove any package that depends on it |
| 00:15.00 | jordanm | ,rdpends widelands-data |
| 00:15.03 | jordanm | ,rdepends widelands-data |
| 00:15.19 | arf | yeah thats what the --force-bla bla was needed |
| 00:15.22 | arf | for |
| 00:15.36 | arf | cos it wont unpack, and shits itself |
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| 00:16.05 | katsrc | what's the debian kde channel called? |
| 00:16.09 | jordanm | !kde |
| 00:16.10 | dpkg | [kde] K Desktop Environment, based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get or delete KDE, ask me about <install kde> or <remove kde> respectively. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels |
| 00:16.11 | arf | unf ctl-c doesnt even work :/ |
| 00:16.32 | jordanm | arf: --remove doesn't unpack anything |
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| 00:16.50 | Mr_Queue | How the hell is this Debian's fault? Google should build better debs in my opinion. http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=71873 |
| 00:17.17 | buntunub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.23 | arf | Jordan_U, yes but after, i had to do dpkg --purge --force-reinstall-required wideland-data to stop it complaining |
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| 00:17.40 | aguitel | i have GeForce FX 5200 ,my question is about how install the nvidia driver :is the debian wiki nvidia working for it ? |
| 00:17.52 | phorce1 | why would an SD card not umount with a "device is busy" error after only reading files from it (copying to hard drive)? |
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| 00:18.52 | phorce1 | nevermind --- ran 'sync' and now it umounts |
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| 00:19.18 | jordanm | arf: its static compiled nature does make some sense to place in /opt, but typically it is something you do not want with a .deb package |
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| 00:19.39 | jordanm | arf: what complaining? |
| 00:19.41 | arf | jordanm, yeah, its clearly very broken. i only installed it on a whim |
| 00:19.49 | jordanm | Mr_Queue: ^ |
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| 00:20.20 | jordanm | arf: you should start providing actual outputs instead of summaries of what you think the problem and resolution should be |
| 00:20.33 | arf | jordanm something like 'package is in a very broken state, youre screwed, hahaha!' :) |
| 00:20.40 | twinkie_addict | ah i feel better. reinstalled squeeze as cli onli system . much more confortable in console |
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| 00:21.04 | arf | Jordanm well the problem is i have to reboot everytime it tries to install it, because ctl-c doesnt work |
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| 00:22.03 | jhambo | Fresh Squeeze install here. When I try to add a new network printer with the KDE pinter configuration, I get "the password may be incorrect". Do I need to do something about groups or permissions? |
| 00:22.10 | jordanm | arf: send it a SIGKILL if you have to, thats basically what rebooting is going to do anyways |
| 00:22.11 | Mr_Queue | jordanm: Whatever dev closed that as wont fix is an idiot. |
| 00:22.22 | arf | sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --purge widelands-data ... success |
| 00:22.30 | jordanm | arf: also, next time you should make note of section 4.4.3. of the upgrade/release notes |
| 00:22.53 | arf | sudo apt-get remove --purge widelands... |
| 00:22.59 | arf | Package widelands is not installed, so not removed |
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| 00:23.15 | jordanm | 2011-02-08 19:14 < jordanm> arf: dpkg --remove widelands-data; you will also need to remove any package that depends on it |
| 00:23.18 | arf | now whats it doing...:O |
| 00:23.21 | Mr_Queue | arf: aptitude would punt that in one swoop. |
| 00:23.52 | aguitel | i have GeForce FX 5200 ,my question is about how install the nvidia driver :is the debian wiki nvidia working for this card ? |
| 00:24.04 | arf | its trying to setup 50 other packages. hmm.. guess thats good. |
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| 00:25.52 | arf | Mr_Queue, im still mid-dist-upgrade, and as the release notes say: dont use aptitude yet, so... |
| 00:26.12 | Mr_Queue | arf: I see. |
| 00:26.14 | arf | or should i just ignore that |
| 00:26.15 | cobra-the-joker | congratulates every one for the squeeze release !1 |
| 00:26.19 | aguitel | jordanm, do you know something about my question? |
| 00:26.25 | jordanm | Mr_Queue: there were some cases where during the upgrade from lenny -> squeeze, aptitude would resolve forever and never find a solution |
| 00:26.39 | jordanm | Mr_Queue: unfortunately, there have been regressions since lenny |
| 00:27.08 | jordanm | aguitel: no, try it and see |
| 00:27.33 | Mr_Queue | jordanm: arf aptitude froze on me yesterday while running aptitude safe-upgrade on a running Sid VM. apt-get fixed it all. I nearly sold the farm. |
| 00:27.33 | arf | ok, i cant imagine anything depends on it now, but how do i check? |
| 00:27.52 | jhambo | Is it true that it is only possible to configure printers if you have the root password? |
| 00:27.56 | aguitel | jordanm, i need the driver nvidia 173.14.xx (legacy) |
| 00:27.56 | arf | Mr_Queue, so stick with apt-get. roger |
| 00:28.16 | arf | Package widelands is not installed, so not removed |
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| 00:28.30 | Mr_Queue | arf: I might jump ship on my favorite package manager.. :( Where is Daniel these days? |
| 00:28.44 | aguitel | are this driver version is squeeze? |
| 00:28.51 | arf | i never really like aptitude or dselect anyway :) |
| 00:29.11 | cobra-the-joker | hey guy s.... i can only see the net install on the debian website ... isnt there a Gnome CD like lenny ? |
| 00:29.16 | jordanm | arf: aptitude search ~i~Dwidelands-data |
| 00:29.38 | themill | cobra-the-joker: perhaps you need to look a little more closely |
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| 00:29.47 | dvs | cobra-the-joker: the default desktop is Gnome |
| 00:29.53 | arf | no output, Jordanm. safe to resume dist-upgrade? |
| 00:30.07 | jordanm | cobra-the-joker: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 00:30.11 | jordanm | arf: sure |
| 00:30.18 | arf | here goes... |
| 00:30.42 | arf | heh. done |
| 00:30.44 | twinkie_addict | even wwith netinst you get gnome if you select gui in config options |
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| 00:31.19 | arf | ok. well i dont understand what happened but it seems ok now. thanks |
| 00:31.55 | Arrowmaster | cobra-the-joker: cd1 is the gnome/kde cd |
| 00:31.59 | twinkie_addict | i prefer clean installs to dist-upgrades |
| 00:32.05 | cobra-the-joker | aha ... i am there |
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| 00:32.40 | Cim | so anyone can help me? |
| 00:32.56 | twinkie_addict | with what |
| 00:33.06 | Cim | I can't recive files to my laptop via bluetooth. I have alredy installed obex-data-server but still don't working. I can send files. |
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| 00:33.30 | twinkie_addict | not sure sorry |
| 00:33.44 | cobra-the-joker | Arrowmaster , what KDE version is there ? |
| 00:33.56 | jordanm | twinkie_addict: one of the major benefits to debian is its upgradability. people out there have been upgrading since potato and possibly earlier |
| 00:34.13 | Arrowmaster | KDE4, i dont know any more specific than that |
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| 00:34.20 | Arrowmaster | its probably in the release notes |
| 00:34.22 | cobra-the-joker | nice |
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| 00:34.34 | cobra-the-joker | ok ok ... i will read this and stop trolling :D .. thanx |
| 00:34.46 | jordanm | I have seen talk on the mailing lists of trinity working with debian |
| 00:35.18 | ivo_ | there are some strange things in debian 6 |
| 00:35.42 | ivo_ | for example there is no pulse audio in the default install |
| 00:35.57 | twinkie_addict | that may be true but im old school i find i have less errors with clean installs to dist-upgrades less breakage just my commmon pracice regardless of distros |
| 00:36.50 | arf | zomg! aptitude just tried to install widelands again! grr! |
| 00:36.59 | arf | what the hell! |
| 00:37.09 | twinkie_addict | what is widelands |
| 00:37.20 | arf | some game |
| 00:37.25 | twinkie_addict | ah |
| 00:37.38 | arf | dont install it, its really broken |
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| 00:38.00 | twinkie_addict | no worries im on a cli only system :) |
| 00:38.06 | ivo_ | :D |
| 00:38.26 | ivo_ | hmmm |
| 00:38.36 | ivo_ | there are some minor problems with pulseaudio |
| 00:38.55 | ivo_ | but without it only one application can play audio |
| 00:39.01 | ivo_ | so I think I need it |
| 00:39.07 | twinkie_addict | i dont like pulse audio alway default to alsa |
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| 00:39.08 | ivo_ | or is there some other hack |
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| 00:39.28 | ivo_ | but with alsa only one app is able to play audio |
| 00:39.41 | arf | what are the other ones you want to use? |
| 00:39.43 | ivo_ | or am I wrong? |
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| 00:40.25 | twinkie_addict | i only listen to music with it so i dont care if only one app gets sound hehe |
| 00:40.30 | adb | sure alsa play all totem vlc mplayer etc |
| 00:41.03 | ivo_ | all at the same time? |
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| 00:41.13 | adb | audacious , sure |
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| 00:42.32 | twinkie_addict | i like alsa as it works well in console and a get a mixer |
| 00:42.33 | ccfreeme | I am installing postgresql 9.0 on squeeze and was given instructions on how to build the package from Sid. I've done everything to the 'dpkg-buildpackage' and have the *.deb packages sitting in the dir. I tried to do dpkg -i on main package but it's asking for the dependencies (which are sitting there also). I was reluctant to just do dpkg -i *.deb as I guess the dependencies need to be installed first. What is the solution from he |
| 00:42.46 | twinkie_addict | i guess oss woulf do that too |
| 00:43.20 | simonrvn | ccfreeme: dpkg i smart enough to handle the deps (usually) if they're included on the command line |
| 00:43.40 | arf | twinkie_addict, i dont know if its still true, but alsa 'big feature' was multichannel muxing. oss often locked up the device when something was accessing it |
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| 00:43.54 | ccfreeme | simonrvn: so there is no dpkg param that will grab deps like the apt-get install does? |
| 00:44.09 | twinkie_addict | yeh been a wile sins i used oss |
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| 00:45.27 | skomorokh | Hi! What is this "suite" concept on http://packages.debian.org? It tells me "package not available in this suite" when I go to things like http://packages.debian.org/lenny/php5 |
| 00:45.42 | twinkie_addict | i dont do much i webrows through links2 irc via irssi listen to music with moc use tmux and plaay ninvaders |
| 00:46.24 | twinkie_addict | god i need to learn to type lol |
| 00:46.33 | jordanm | skomorokh: a release |
| 00:47.33 | skomorokh | jordanm: Okay, but lenny has a php5 package, no? |
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| 00:47.37 | doubleukay | somewhere sometime /etc/dhcp3 was changed to /etc/dhcp ... |
| 00:47.43 | skomorokh | jordanm: In fact, I get that error for gcc even. |
| 00:47.44 | doubleukay | does anyone know when exactly? |
| 00:48.14 | themill | skomorokh: packages.d.o is having some issues atm and being worked on |
| 00:48.24 | skomorokh | themill: Gotcha. |
| 00:48.27 | skomorokh | themill: Thanks! |
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| 00:49.41 | adb | , versions php5 |
| 00:49.42 | judd | Package php5 on i386 -- lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9; sid: 5.3.3-7; squeeze: 5.3.3-7; wheezy: 5.3.3-7 |
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| 00:50.56 | sgn | Are tthere any tools on debian that automounts a specific UUID when attached? |
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| 00:53.20 | jordanm | sgn: autofs maybe? |
| 00:53.56 | stew | sgn: halevt |
| 00:54.22 | stew | sgn: or just udev |
| 00:54.43 | sgn | yeah, just found out |
| 00:55.11 | sgn | I'll go for udev :) |
| 00:55.39 | stew | halevt will let you do per user stuff, and is perhaps a bit frendlier |
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| 00:56.52 | jelly-home | udisks thingy? |
| 00:57.42 | stew | ¿que? |
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| 00:59.22 | sgn | what are the dump/pass settings for ntfs? |
| 01:00.07 | jordanm | I wouldn't expect pass to matter since it won't fsck anyways |
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| 01:00.21 | jelly-home | Package: udisks, Replaces: devicekit-disks, Description: abstraction for enumerating block devices[...] and performing operations on them. [operations include mounting] |
| 01:01.03 | jelly-home | [...]Some operations (such as formatting disks etc.) are restricted using PolicyKit. |
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| 01:02.13 | sgn | ah := |
| 01:02.16 | jelly-home | the short description is fantastically useless |
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| 01:08.23 | mosno | JulienBussi: sounds like some form of HAL |
| 01:08.26 | mosno | jelly-home: ^ |
| 01:08.32 | mosno | JulienBussi: sorry, ignore |
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| 01:09.17 | ssicc | hey |
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| 01:09.53 | ssicc | anyone familiar how to set the video driver for xorg server 1.9.0 (which does not use xorg.conf anymore)? |
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| 01:11.15 | jelly-home | mosno: it's just for disks. |
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| 01:13.40 | jordanm | ssicc: it should still be able to use xorg.conf |
| 01:13.52 | jordanm | hasn't been required for a long time though |
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| 01:15.08 | ssicc | jordanm: yeah, ok, but how do i get a xorg.conf template that is appropriate for my sys (in this case i just want to tell Xorg which video driver to use, nothing else)? |
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| 01:17.18 | ssicc | ...there does not seem to be a default one installed anywhere in the system |
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| 01:19.14 | jordanm | ssicc: unless you need it for proprietary drivers, its probably not going to help if it did not auto-detect |
| 01:19.24 | jordanm | ssicc: which driver are you trying to specify? |
| 01:20.00 | jordanm | ,versions xorg |
| 01:20.01 | judd | Package xorg on i386 -- lenny: 1:7.3+20; squeeze: 1:7.5+8; wheezy: 1:7.5+8; sid: 1:7.6+1 |
| 01:20.07 | jordanm | ssicc: 1.9? |
| 01:20.15 | jordanm | oh.. |
| 01:20.16 | ssicc | jordanm: ...the driver for my virtual machine (VirtualBox) |
| 01:20.25 | ssicc | jordanm: yes, 1.9.0 |
| 01:20.34 | jordanm | ssicc: I would expect that to be auto-detected fine. X -configure |
| 01:20.52 | ssicc | X -configure tells me that there is already an xserver running |
| 01:20.58 | ssicc | so maybe i should kill it first? |
| 01:21.00 | jordanm | ssicc: X -configure -- :1 |
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| 01:22.53 | ssicc | "unrecognized option: --" |
| 01:24.08 | stew | ssicc: just "X -configure :1" |
| 01:26.01 | twinkie_addict | killall gdm or kdm then X -configure |
| 01:26.23 | ssicc | yeah, that did the job, now i have to figure out how to switch to :1 as the key combination interfers with the one for the linux host |
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| 01:28.45 | jordanm | ssicc: it shouldn't keep an open server on :1 |
| 01:28.56 | jordanm | ssicc: if it did, it would be ctrl+atl+f8 |
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| 01:29.09 | stew | ssicc: you don't have to switch to :1, that command just used an unused tty to start a x server long enough to figure out working configuration |
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| 01:35.28 | tonytraductor | after updating to squeeze, OpenOffice can no longer open or save to the new OOXML Microslop formats |
| 01:35.38 | tonytraductor | OpenOffice 2.4 was not having any trouble at all with these. |
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| 01:36.18 | tonytraductor | when trying to open them, I get "Read-Error: Data could not be read from this file" |
| 01:36.21 | buntunub | get libreoffice it can handle ooxml np |
| 01:36.31 | jordanm | tonytraductor: like .xlsx? 2.x was not able to handle those, required 3.x |
| 01:36.46 | ssicc | stew: now i'm confused! just kill the X server for the current display, then switch to another virtual tty, "X -configure :0" there, go back to :0 and start X again? |
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| 01:37.18 | ssicc | (accidentially killed my hosts X server) |
| 01:37.20 | compaq | hi, I was wondering about temporary internet files using Chrome. If I watch a flash video file, a Flash-something file appears in /tmp dir which I can copy to keep the flash video, but some other files, I am not sure if they are flash or avi maybe, but nothing appears in /tmp directory, so what I am wondering, where are those tmp files kept then? |
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| 01:37.55 | compaq | I feel bad for FF, I think there days are over since chrome |
| 01:38.22 | Saar | debian.org is slow or down... |
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| 01:38.48 | compaq | wow, debian 6 is up and the website is updated too |
| 01:39.17 | compaq | Saar, its working fine for me, but I bet tons of people are downloading 6.0 |
| 01:39.19 | stew | Saar: its not, try to figure out if you can what ip address you are having trobule with |
| 01:39.32 | ssicc | stew: and if i try to run "X -configure :0" while i'm on :0, it just tells me that there is already an X server running for :0 |
| 01:39.42 | stew | ssicc: yes, so use :1 |
| 01:40.01 | Saar | you have a url of any mirror handy? |
| 01:40.06 | compaq | you know what, something happen to my FF installation, and I was thinking it was the internet, and then a few months later, by chance I installed chrome, and noticed, it wasn't the internet, it was FF problem |
| 01:40.14 | stew | Saar: mirror for what exactly? |
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| 01:40.22 | Saar | the cd images |
| 01:40.28 | stew | Saar: cdimage.debian.org? |
| 01:40.47 | Saar | no sorry, debian.org is not loading here |
| 01:40.53 | compaq | should I re-install or upgrade to debian 6? |
| 01:40.53 | stew | Saar: what country are you in? |
| 01:41.06 | stew | compaq: no reason to reinstall, /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 01:41.08 | Saar | usa CA |
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| 01:41.25 | compaq | oh man I got butterflies |
| 01:41.31 | ssicc | stew: ok, but how do i manage to get my login screen to be on :1 then instead of :0? |
| 01:42.05 | stew | Saar: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/ |
| 01:42.14 | stew | ssicc: why do you want it on :1? |
| 01:42.50 | ssicc | basically i want to use different window managers and i would like to be choose it from within my login screen |
| 01:42.51 | stew | ssicc: what exactly are you trying to do? X -configure is a command to generate a new xorg.conf should you need one. (most people shouldn't need one) |
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| 01:42.58 | Saar | thanks stew |
| 01:43.25 | stew | ssicc: you can't do that now? |
| 01:43.32 | Saar | if i load debian.org's IP addresses i get "Welcome to senfl! This is senfl, a system run..." |
| 01:43.49 | stew | Saar: are you behind a proxy? |
| 01:43.51 | Saar | or bellini |
| 01:43.59 | stew | Saar: senfl and bellini are both workign for me |
| 01:44.04 | Saar | no |
| 01:44.18 | stew | Saar: it sounds like your browser is failing to send server name for some reason |
| 01:44.20 | Saar | maybe its something to do with the heavy load |
| 01:44.32 | ssicc | stew: no, "X -configure :1" does not even generate a xorg.conf |
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| 01:44.42 | stew | Saar: heavy load where? |
| 01:44.42 | coppermine | i have a webcam listed as Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0c45:62e0 Microdia MSI Starcam Racer |
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| 01:44.50 | coppermine | but there's no /dev/video entry created |
| 01:44.55 | coppermine | on debian, and it works on gentoo |
| 01:44.58 | coppermine | what can I check? |
| 01:45.04 | Saar | stew: i am assuming many people are downloading new stable |
| 01:45.12 | ajikeshi | coppermine, maybe its because of some non-free stuff |
| 01:45.15 | stew | Saar: not from those servers |
| 01:45.21 | stew | Saar: the load on senfl right now is 0.00 |
| 01:45.21 | coppermine | it uses v4l drivers |
| 01:45.30 | ajikeshi | firmware maybe? |
| 01:45.30 | coppermine | which i enabled in the make menuconfig kernel options |
| 01:45.37 | Saar | well if I load 206.12.19.7 it works fine, if I load bellini.debian.org it doesn't load |
| 01:45.38 | ajikeshi | but dunno.. im notinto webcams |
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| 01:45.57 | stew | Saar: dunno, both bellini and senfl work for me |
| 01:46.20 | Saar | yeah it's odd |
| 01:46.25 | pasaport | What release do you recommend? Squeeze or Lenny? I have both but can not decide what is good |
| 01:46.41 | stew | pasaport: squeeze |
| 01:47.08 | tonytraductor | I LOVE Squeeze so far, with the exception of this one little issue with openoffice |
| 01:47.12 | stew | Saar: what you are describing is what you would get if you went directly to http://128.31.0.51 for instance |
| 01:47.14 | ajikeshi | pasaport, mayben even eheezy |
| 01:47.22 | ajikeshi | s/eh/wh/ |
| 01:47.23 | stew | not wheezy |
| 01:47.33 | ssicc | stew: and "DISPLAY=:1 /usr/sbin/gdm -- :1" won't even start a new gnome wm on :1...i'm going mad! |
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| 01:47.36 | Saar | stew: right |
| 01:47.39 | mosno | pasaport: always run debian stable, unless you have special needs |
| 01:47.57 | stew | now is a particuarly bad time for wheezy |
| 01:48.01 | pasaport | squeeze is stable now, right? |
| 01:48.09 | ajikeshi | mosno, i never encountered problems with testing that couldnt be solved |
| 01:48.14 | stew | pasaport: yes |
| 01:48.26 | mosno | ajikeshi: and? |
| 01:48.31 | stew | ajikeshi: that's great. perhaps he isn't as skilled or lucky |
| 01:48.36 | ajikeshi | mhh possibly |
| 01:48.45 | stew | ajikeshi: note that more than 15% of the packages in wheezy have changed in the last two days |
| 01:48.59 | ajikeshi | stew, y is it a bad time now? because of mayor transitions? |
| 01:49.20 | stew | ajikeshi: because the freeze was just lifted and 2300 source packages moved in one dinstall run |
| 01:49.29 | ajikeshi | mhhh |
| 01:49.34 | ajikeshi | okay... good point |
| 01:49.44 | stew | and now transitions will start, which require packages being removed |
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| 01:57.04 | ssicc | stew: ok, now i could somehow spot the problem, the only thing that is still missing is a xorg.conf for the current display, but as long as i hava a x server running for this display "X -configure :X" can't create a new xorg.conf, but when i kill the current display, gdm automatically restarts and prompts the graphical login screen...any ideas? |
| 01:57.06 | ice799 | Yo |
| 01:57.20 | ice799 | git-buildpackage and autogen.sh, what is the deal. |
| 01:57.58 | ice799 | I have a autotoolized source tree, which is a maintainer checkout. I want to use git-buildpackage to use it but I need to run autogen.sh first to generate configure, Makefile, and all that. |
| 01:58.29 | ice799 | if I run that before git-buildpackage, git-buildpackage will not pick up the newly created files. |
| 01:58.35 | stew | ssicc: you can create an xorg.conf by running "X -configure :1" |
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| 01:58.47 | stew | ssicc: do you actually need an xorg.conf? why? |
| 01:58.49 | ice799 | I could run autogen.sh in debian/rules before doing configure, but that just "feels wrong" |
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| 01:59.00 | ice799 | is that the right way to do it? |
| 02:00.27 | stew | ice799: you'll get better help in #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org |
| 02:00.39 | ssicc | stew: yes, i DO need a xorg.conf as i have to tell the X server to use my super special video driver for my virtualization software to pass the requests through to the actual hardware and maybe i'm just too stupid to find the xorg.conf, but a simple "locate -i xorg.conf" should do it, right? |
| 02:01.17 | stew | ssicc: typically there isn't an xorg.conf, if you need to generate one, you can with "X -configure :1" |
| 02:02.48 | ssicc | stew: oh, i just overlooked it, sry! now i have generated a xorg.conf... just adjust it and put it into ~? |
| 02:03.08 | LordVorp | ssicc: it lives in /etc/X11 |
| 02:03.10 | stew | ssicc: /etc/X11 is where it usually lives |
| 02:03.14 | LordVorp | heh |
| 02:04.37 | ssicc | LordVorp: that would just be great, but that has changed recently... |
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| 02:06.07 | LordVorp | really? cool. where did you see that? |
| 02:06.20 | ssicc | hmm, the newly generated xorg.conf is in my home dir, but should i copy it to /etx/X11 to work correctly or is the home dir ok, too? |
| 02:06.30 | LordVorp | no you should move it to /etc/X11 |
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| 02:06.47 | LordVorp | unless you can find a switch for X to say "use THIS config file" |
| 02:07.39 | LordVorp | ah. manpage for xorg.conf sez, if you are root it will look in (among others) $HOME/xorg.conf |
| 02:07.42 | LordVorp | so you can try it. |
| 02:07.42 | twinkie_addict | searches franticly though his system. oh my no xorg.conf. what could be wrong ? ! oh wait no x installed . lol |
| 02:07.53 | LordVorp | twinkie_addict: heh |
| 02:08.23 | twinkie_addict | sorry couldnt help myself |
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| 02:10.10 | LordVorp | ssic: also, man Xorg sez you can run Xorg -config /some/xorg.conf |
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| 02:12.02 | ssicc | well, now i have a xorg.conf and it inludes vboxvideo as driver (so X has already recognized it), but still i have no 3D acceleration... |
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| 02:12.49 | jordanm | ssicc: IIRC only the windows driver support 3d acceleration, and it has to be manually enabled in vbox |
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| 02:13.29 | ssicc | jordanm: i have already ticked the 3D acceleration checkmark |
| 02:13.52 | ssicc | but maybe 12 MB video memory are not enough |
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| 02:15.50 | dvs | 12MB video?!? |
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| 02:16.37 | jordanm | dvs: he is trying to simulate 2001 intel graphics |
| 02:16.39 | ssicc | dvs: yeah, misconfigured, but how much should i use? |
| 02:16.46 | dvs | oh |
| 02:17.00 | dvs | 128 sounds better |
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| 02:17.37 | ssicc | let us try it |
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| 02:19.26 | nutron | can i watch network traffic of a pid? |
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| 02:20.29 | ssicc | nope, that was not the problem |
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| 02:21.51 | Joe7 | hi |
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| 02:23.09 | Joe7 | Just tried to upgrade to Squeee and faced some issue regarding upgrade of initramfs-tools/lilo: Fatal: Bios device code 0x82 is being used by two disks. Any idea what shall be tuned to get it working properly? Root is on sw raid/md array. |
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| 02:24.41 | jordanm | Joe7: is there anything stopping you from switching to grub? |
| 02:25.12 | Joe7 | other than me being noob regarding SW raid with grub? Not much :) |
| 02:25.45 | jordanm | I recall a lot of discussion on whether or not lilo would even still be supported in squeeze |
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| 02:26.29 | Yeow | Hello, my name it's Nahuel, i try to make a webserver for an opensource project, and i have running Debian 5. I only need help for configure pure-ftp (and quotes) for start upload content... any one can help me please. i'm very lost in debian. |
| 02:28.05 | amphi | Yeow: perhaps #debian-es will be of use |
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| 02:28.15 | xk | Yeow: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/383 |
| 02:29.06 | Yeow | thanks xk i make all as say in that page, but gime error after error. |
| 02:29.30 | Yeow | i will try with that channel too amphi, thanks. i very lost |
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| 02:40.09 | Yeow | no body answer me in the other channel |
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| 02:46.15 | twinkie_addict | whats your trouble YYeow |
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| 02:46.41 | twinkie_addict | i may not know the answer but ill try |
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| 02:49.19 | rzx237 | does debian squeeze netinstall have any tool to connect to wireless network? |
| 02:49.23 | Yeow | i need install pure-ftp and quotes but i can't.. i follow the guide http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/383 |
| 02:49.29 | Yeow | but give error after error |
| 02:49.44 | Yeow | i have debian 5 lenny |
| 02:49.49 | dvs | rzx237: only for WEP |
| 02:49.57 | twinkie_addict | rzx237: yes |
| 02:50.13 | rzx237 | and what is it? |
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| 02:51.01 | twinkie_addict | what errors Yeow |
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| 02:52.37 | Yeow | pkg: error processing pure-ftpd (--configure): |
| 02:52.38 | Yeow | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 252 |
| 02:52.38 | Yeow | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 02:52.38 | Yeow | pure-ftpd |
| 02:52.38 | Yeow | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 02:56.18 | voudras | just installed deb 6.0 on my server - seems there are lots of changes for me.... anyway - im trying to get my networking setup right and getting some interesting stuff coming back. first off /etc/init.d/networking is depreciated? |
| 02:56.29 | voudras | networking restart, i mean |
| 02:56.39 | voudras | well - ya anyway |
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| 02:57.23 | ex-parrot | is packages.debian.org broken at the moment? |
| 02:57.37 | ex-parrot | it tells me that mixer_applet2 is in the package gnome-applets but then it claims that doesn't exist in stable |
| 03:00.31 | ex-parrot | also has anyone published a userstyle or similar to undo the changes to the debian website? mostly the packages.debian page is what I'm interested in |
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| 03:06.48 | stew | !dbugs 612497 |
| 03:06.52 | dpkg | #612497:N[www.debian.org] www.debian.org: packages.debian.org search results are inconsistant. outdated mirror? (); Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:48:01 UTC [] |
| 03:06.54 | stew | ex-parrot: ^^^ |
| 03:07.09 | ex-parrot | thanks stew |
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| 03:10.02 | vado | Why, even though I'm admin can I not get sudo access? |
| 03:10.36 | stew | vado: what do you mean? |
| 03:10.39 | rzx237 | twinkie_addict, dvs: thx, it is iwconfig! |
| 03:10.41 | Bushmills | why would root need sudo? |
| 03:10.53 | buntunub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.27 | Bushmills | though "admin" may be something else than "root" |
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| 03:11.44 | ex-parrot | has anyone got a copy of last year's http://packages.debian.org/debpkg.css? |
| 03:12.01 | katsrc | if i add backports to squeeze, do i have to pin them? |
| 03:12.03 | un214 | Bushmills: who says root is uid 0? |
| 03:12.04 | buntunub | lol maybe he setup a user account named "admin" |
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| 03:12.12 | TariQMowafy | hello |
| 03:12.35 | Bushmills | un214: i don't know who says. did anyone? i didn't follow the whole thread |
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| 03:12.55 | TariQMowafy | i am running ubuntu 10.10 maverick and i seem to have a problem ( ubuntu software center , update manager , deluge , movie player , Nicotine) not launching ,any help??? |
| 03:12.58 | vado | buntunub stew I'm an ubuntu noob insalling deb 6 PPC on a G4 Powermac, what do I have to do? |
| 03:13.04 | un214 | Bushmills: nobody did. Maybe his root isn't 0 and that's why root needs to use sudo |
| 03:13.15 | stew | TariQMowafy: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 03:13.19 | un214 | !ubuntu |
| 03:13.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 03:13.34 | un214 | TariQMowafy ^^^ |
| 03:13.35 | stew | vado: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 03:13.43 | TariQMowafy | i couldn't find help there |
| 03:13.50 | TariQMowafy | thx anyways |
| 03:13.50 | Bushmills | he didn't say he was root. he said he couldn't, as 'admin" |
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| 03:14.19 | buntunub | sec vado |
| 03:15.39 | vado | stew anything in the terminal that requires root, such as apt-get results in vado is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 03:15.57 | ex-parrot | vado: you're not listed in the sudoers file then |
| 03:16.01 | stew | vado: use visudo to edit the sudoers file |
| 03:16.05 | stew | vado: (man sudoers) |
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| 03:16.17 | endi25 | ciao |
| 03:16.22 | PlagueRat | I have installed lenny 5 or 6 times successfully on different computers. I just installed it on yet another computer and it seems successful, except when it comes up, and I log in, gnome doesn't pop up... I see the icons for computer home and trash, but no menu bar, etc. Did the install twice, and its the same each time. This never happened before. help ???? |
| 03:16.54 | endi25 | !bot |
| 03:16.54 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 03:16.58 | stew | PlagueRat: is the gnome-session package installed? |
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| 03:17.11 | un214 | I'm really curious how stew expects vado to edit /etc/sudoers |
| 03:17.20 | yagoo | haha |
| 03:17.28 | stew | un214: i expect him to use visudo |
| 03:17.34 | PlagueRat | stew - perhaps not, but I don't know how to get a terminal window without any menus, existing windows, etc... |
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| 03:17.46 | PlagueRat | so I can't do an apt-get |
| 03:17.47 | karlpinc | While upgrading from lenny to squeeze a box could not switch from sysv to the new init system because bittorrent left an unconverted init.d entry behind. Where do I report this bug and what priority should it get? |
| 03:17.48 | stew | PlagueRat: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 03:17.53 | burd | howto get rid of the udev warnings on lenny->squeeze upgrade? |
| 03:17.56 | Bushmills | PlagueRat: try to run gnome-panel. you could, maybe, from alt-f2 |
| 03:17.57 | un214 | stew: you do realize that sudo visudo is going to yield the same error right? |
| 03:17.59 | PlagueRat | stre - thank you |
| 03:18.09 | Bushmills | when panel runs, save session |
| 03:18.10 | yagoo | karlpinc, ? |
| 03:18.12 | PlagueRat | okay, great... I had been caught in a catch-22 |
| 03:18.13 | ex-parrot | un214: either he's got root access and he can do it, or he isn't allowed to edit the file. it's pretty simple |
| 03:18.13 | stew | un214: yes |
| 03:18.29 | karlpinc | burd: Did you follow the release notes and do a partial upgrade, then the kernel and udev and reboot, and then the rest? |
| 03:18.32 | karlpinc | yagoo: Yes? |
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| 03:18.50 | yagoo | karlpinc, so what "new init system" are you talking about? |
| 03:19.36 | karlpinc | yagoo: It determines prior boot dependencies automatically and runs as much in parallel as possible. I forgot the vocabulary, it's noted as a change in the release notes. |
| 03:19.48 | stew | yagoo: he means insserv |
| 03:19.53 | burd | karlpinc.. not really.. been using Debian 10 years.. figured I could count on it doing what it pretty much always has... it didn't |
| 03:19.55 | karlpinc | stew: Righto. |
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| 03:20.17 | karlpinc | burd: Try following the release notes and see what happens. |
| 03:20.40 | burd | karlpinc, a little late now wouldn't ya think? apt-get dist-unupgrade?? |
| 03:20.50 | yagoo | stew, ah |
| 03:20.57 | un214 | what is recommended for a debian rescue cd |
| 03:21.01 | un214 | (not netinst) |
| 03:21.10 | yagoo | i haven't upgraded to squeeze.. but i have checked/tested it under vbox.. |
| 03:21.14 | karlpinc | burd: Maybe not. You could try installing the kernel and udev manually, for instance, and then reboot and then try a dist-upgrade. |
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| 03:21.39 | stew | burd: perhaps you should tell us what the warning says |
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| 03:21.45 | yagoo | un214, the installer or debian livecd |
| 03:22.05 | un214 | yahoo: which one doesn't have X? |
| 03:22.06 | karlpinc | yagoo: I suspect the place to report the bug is in the bittorrent package, but then what priority? |
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| 03:22.16 | yagoo | un214, both |
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| 03:22.24 | karlpinc | yagoo: It sorta messes up the upgrade, for some value of sorta. |
| 03:22.25 | yagoo | un214, you can boot up to text mode |
| 03:22.39 | yagoo | karlpinc, ^ I haven't done any upgrades |
| 03:22.40 | un214 | good, because stock X won't work |
| 03:22.40 | debclair | Grettings. Has anyone installed gwibber from source code in squeeze? I cant get it to work, even tough installation seems to go fine |
| 03:23.00 | un214 | (not debian's fault) |
| 03:23.45 | yagoo | karlpinc, um.. you're saying apt-get updates via torrent? interesting thought.. |
| 03:23.49 | stew | debclair: i'd recommend /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 03:24.16 | burd | stew, I would rather not have to reboot this thing to get that info.. it's a network firewall router |
| 03:24.19 | katsrc | anyone use windows here? |
| 03:24.26 | karlpinc | yagoo: No. I'm saying that if you've bitorrent installed that the upgrade won't upgrade to insserv. |
| 03:24.31 | katsrc | or know of a good spyware remover tool? |
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| 03:24.39 | burd | stew had something to do with a new way to declare stuff I think it had soemthing to do with ALLOC |
| 03:24.48 | Bushmills | un214: i keep an aptosid boot cd at hand |
| 03:24.51 | karlpinc | !tell katsrc about windows |
| 03:24.53 | stew | burd: ok, good luck |
| 03:25.02 | burd | stew ya thanks.. |
| 03:25.09 | yagoo | !tell dpkg to spyware-remove katsrc |
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| 03:25.27 | stew | katsrc: ask in ##windows |
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| 03:26.03 | Bushmills | funny terms, that "windows" - i'll have to google for it |
| 03:26.34 | burd | I do have to say that I have been messing with squeeze for months now.. it is the most unrefined release debian has let loose since woody, maybe potato.. KDE4 is not ready for mainstream use, the upgrade was ugly as hell.. I dont know why they rushed this thing |
| 03:26.49 | burd | completely disappointed with this release |
| 03:26.51 | stew | rushed? |
| 03:26.56 | stew | burd: did you file bugs? |
| 03:26.56 | burd | yep |
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| 03:27.14 | katsrc | thanks |
| 03:27.19 | stew | we got down to <5 release critical bugs. what selse should we have waited on? |
| 03:27.22 | burd | stew, yes.. not only this but anyone can spend 5 minutes in KDE4 and find something that doesnt work |
| 03:27.25 | katsrc | haven't used windows in a long time, don't know whats what anymore |
| 03:27.52 | stew | burd: i dunno. if that were the case, I'd expect it to result in release critical bugs |
| 03:27.53 | Bushmills | if kde4 is not ready for prime time - why did you install it? |
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| 03:28.46 | un214 | only problem I had was kde3->kde4 convert program |
| 03:28.47 | burd | Bushmills, because I have been using KDE for 10 years |
| 03:28.58 | un214 | completely hosed my profile |
| 03:28.58 | stew | burd: can you point me at one such bug? |
| 03:29.05 | burd | sure here is an easy one |
| 03:29.30 | burd | using dragon.. open up the volume tab, mouse over the volume until it is fully up or down while playig a video/audio.. |
| 03:29.40 | stew | burd: what is the bug#? |
| 03:29.46 | burd | once the ovlume hits it's peek at either end, the timeline then moves with the mouse |
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| 03:30.20 | burd | so you volume all the way up and forward and you fast forward or reverse several minutes/seconds |
| 03:30.36 | stew | burd: what package is dragon in? do you know the bug number in the bts? |
| 03:31.03 | burd | stew,dragon is the default player for KDE4 |
| 03:31.55 | burd | stew, seems you have no clue about anything KDE4 so I am assuming you are trolling for something |
| 03:32.06 | un214 | stew isn't trolling |
| 03:32.17 | burd | well then what is it he is doing? |
| 03:32.19 | un214 | no bug filed, no package, not officially known, never gets fixed |
| 03:32.22 | xk | troll |
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| 03:32.49 | stew | burd: if there were bugs filed about this software being unusable, I'm trying to find the explanation about how debian was able to release with them |
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| 03:33.18 | stew | burd: because software being completely unusable would mean that the software would have been removed from squeeze or squeeze wouldn't have been released |
| 03:33.19 | burd | stew, I never filed bug with that one.. it is one of many many usability issues in KDE4 |
| 03:33.43 | go8ose | packages.debian.org doesn't seem to be reporting packages that are in the squeeze archive. How does one report a bug against the website? |
| 03:33.44 | stew | burd: then you must understand that debian can't hold up the release becuase of bugs that haven't been reported yet |
| 03:34.15 | stew | go8ose: see http://bugs.debian.org/612497 |
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| 03:34.44 | un214 | !603885 |
| 03:34.53 | go8ose | stew: thanks |
| 03:35.22 | burd | stew, I totally understand.. not looking for apissing match just making a statement that this debina release is the most unrefined release I have seen in almost a decade.. |
| 03:35.33 | karlpinc | Speaking of reporting bugs, what would be the right priority to report my upgrade problem? (And what package if not bittorrent?) |
| 03:35.39 | amphi | debina |
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| 03:36.12 | un214 | however, here's one that should never have existed and was never even tried to fix http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603885 |
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| 03:36.15 | yagoo | haha |
| 03:36.29 | stew | karlpinc: what is the problem? |
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| 03:36.38 | yagoo | sid is inconsistent behaviour. Not surprising to see that post. |
| 03:37.29 | _[An]tIpAtIcO_ | alguien habla español aqui |
| 03:37.34 | stew | !es |
| 03:37.35 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
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| 03:38.12 | karlpinc | stew: I upgraded a box with bittorrent installed and it would not automatically switch to insserv because of leftover bittorrent cruft. |
| 03:38.47 | stew | karlpinc: there was bittorrent cruft even though bittorrent was still installed? or was it removed but not purged? |
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| 03:39.17 | stew | !dbugs 550229 |
| 03:39.21 | dpkg | #550229:I[bittorrent] bittorrent leave obsolete init.d script after upgrade (); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:24:02 UTC [] |
| 03:39.23 | karlpinc | stew: I've the exact log somewhere, but wanted to grow a clue before filing a bug. --- It was still installed. I uninstalled and purged it to get rid of the problem and then ran the recommennded command to upgrade. |
| 03:40.07 | karlpinc | stew: Thanks. Guess I don't need to report that one. I'll take a look and see what the right way to do it would be. |
| 03:41.15 | stew | karlpinc: fwiw, Petter Reinholdtsen is the sysv-rc/insserv maint |
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| 03:41.47 | sabayonweb_70490 | lol |
| 03:42.04 | sabayonweb_70490 | FILHOS DUMA GRANDA PUTA |
| 03:42.14 | sabayonweb_70490 | SORRY CAPS |
| 03:42.24 | stew | sabayonweb_70490: thanks, but can you plase stay on-topic and in english? |
| 03:42.41 | sabayonweb_70490 | ofcourse |
| 03:42.58 | sabayonweb_70490 | english ruls |
| 03:43.55 | yagoo | what's that /etc/init.d/bittorent , like mldonkey ? |
| 03:44.15 | un214 | yes |
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| 03:45.43 | mosno | Martin Pitt, you rock at documentation |
| 03:45.48 | yagoo | karlpinc, this bug where's it from, sid or squeeze? |
| 03:46.26 | voudras | just installed deb 6.0 on my server - seems there are lots of changes for me.... anyway - im trying to get my networking setup right and getting some interesting stuff coming back. first off /etc/init.d/networking is depreciated? |
| 03:46.32 | karlpinc | yagoo: I assume it's a lenny problem, but it could be squeeze. Anyway migrating to squeeze is where the problem exhibits itself. |
| 03:46.42 | voudras | sorry i asked this a bit ago but my scroll back is lame |
| 03:47.06 | voudras | and apparently i dont have third-eye scripts with epic4 |
| 03:47.07 | un214 | nobody answered the first time |
| 03:47.10 | voudras | installed |
| 03:47.13 | voudras | ok thanks |
| 03:47.18 | voudras | sorta hehe =) |
| 03:47.22 | yagoo | voudras, type man interfaces |
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| 03:47.37 | voudras | i modified interfaces - dont think thats the problem |
| 03:47.38 | un214 | I never got it working, there's a dhclient eth0 line in my rc.local instead |
| 03:47.57 | voudras | if i lspci -v i see only one card showing a module "attached" |
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| 03:49.20 | voudras | shit im sorry - i came here before without reg and asked a question and forgot that you guys never heard that part =( |
| 03:49.37 | yagoo | voudras, i doubt you're using debian |
| 03:49.43 | voudras | im using debian |
| 03:49.51 | yagoo | voudras, i don't believe it |
| 03:49.57 | voudras | well, believe it |
| 03:50.14 | voudras | root@buddha:/etc/init.d# cat /etc/issue |
| 03:50.14 | voudras | Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 \n \l |
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| 03:50.39 | un214 | try cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:50.56 | voudras | i'll get a flood |
| 03:50.59 | voudras | kick |
| 03:51.07 | karlpinc | !tell voudras about paste |
| 03:51.08 | voudras | but - security and mirrors kernel |
| 03:51.19 | voudras | its debian dammit |
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| 03:52.18 | voudras | http://pastebin.com/wTiw5UNb |
| 03:52.22 | voudras | ^^^^ |
| 03:53.05 | un214 | yup squeeze i386 |
| 03:53.07 | yagoo | voudras, http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration, basically for dhcp it's just two lines for eth0 .. if "ifconfig" doesn't show your interface mac then it's a driver issue |
| 03:53.09 | stew | voudras: /etc/init.d/networking is not deprecated, but the maintainer seems to deprecate using its 'restart' command |
| 03:53.22 | voudras | ah i see |
| 03:53.25 | voudras | ok guys thanks |
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| 03:53.36 | yagoo | voudras, mac as in "MAC" address "xx:xx:xx:xx" |
| 03:53.44 | voudras | yes it would seem that it doesnt want to load the driver for eth1 |
| 03:53.59 | voudras | yagoo: right |
| 03:54.18 | yagoo | voudras, force a list of all drivers for networking-- ifconfig -a |
| 03:54.29 | voudras | i have e100 module - thats what is killing me afaik it should be working |
| 03:54.32 | yagoo | actually a list of all interfaces setup or not.. that cmd does list it |
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| 03:54.50 | voudras | whoa - it might be listing it as pan0 ? hang on |
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| 03:55.02 | voudras | gimme a sec - and thanks for the halp |
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| 03:56.24 | voudras | let me rephrase last bit, lsmod|grep e1 does show that e100 and e1000 (drivers for both) are loaded |
| 03:56.43 | voudras | but ifup eth1 not seeing a device - must be the driver mod |
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| 03:57.11 | yagoo | voudras, does the net controller label show up in lspci ? (lspci -k shows loaded kerns with it) |
| 03:57.45 | voudras | i dont see "kernel drive in use" for the second card (LAN) |
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| 03:58.02 | voudras | driver* |
| 03:58.27 | stew | voudras: what is the vendorid:deviceid for that card? |
| 03:58.40 | stew | voudras: lspci -n would report it at the end of the line like "8086:10de" |
| 03:58.42 | voudras | the one not working is |
| 03:58.43 | voudras | 03:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82556 EtherExpress PRO/100 Smart (rev 0d) |
| 03:58.43 | voudras | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.53 | voudras | (not showing kernel driver in use, i mean) |
| 03:58.53 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:1050 |
| 03:58.56 | judd | [8086:1050] is '82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'e100' in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1050 |
| 03:58.58 | voudras | o |
| 03:59.01 | voudras | sorry one sec |
| 03:59.11 | stew | voudras: no, i got it |
| 03:59.18 | voudras | 03:0d.0 0200: 8086:1228 (rev 0d |
| 03:59.21 | stew | oh |
| 03:59.26 | stew | i guess i didn't |
| 03:59.30 | voudras | hehe =) |
| 03:59.30 | stew | judd: pciid 8086:1228 |
| 03:59.33 | judd | [8086:1228] is '82556 EtherExpress PRO/100 Smart' from 'Intel Corporation' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1228 |
| 03:59.35 | voudras | appreciate the help |
| 03:59.39 | yagoo | haha |
| 03:59.41 | voudras | thanks |
| 03:59.50 | voudras | you guys fuckin rock |
| 03:59.55 | buntunub | hey whats the comman to private message someone? |
| 03:59.58 | stew | hmm |
| 04:00.04 | yagoo | maybe there's a source from intel |
| 04:00.08 | stew | i guess judd's db is out of date? |
| 04:00.21 | voudras | yea e100 driver |
| 04:00.23 | stew | kmuto reports that it is e100 |
| 04:00.32 | voudras | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.33 | voudras | e1000 77317 0 |
| 04:00.46 | dvs | voudras: so blacklist the e1000 module |
| 04:00.49 | buntunub | !help |
| 04:00.59 | stew | voudras: "modprobe e100"? |
| 04:00.59 | voudras | dammit |
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| 04:01.09 | yagoo | voudras, http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/EEPRO100.html |
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| 04:01.15 | yagoo | try eepro100 |
| 04:01.25 | voudras | yea, just did that again - sorry i've rebooted a few times and tried this a bit before even asking in here |
| 04:01.32 | voudras | eepro100? one sec |
| 04:01.47 | yagoo | rmmod e100/e1000 if the other card isn't that |
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| 04:01.59 | voudras | eepro maybe? |
| 04:02.13 | dvs | voudras: no, blacklist the e1000 driver |
| 04:02.18 | stew | why? |
| 04:02.27 | stew | why worry at all about the e1000 driver? |
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| 04:02.32 | yagoo | yeah.. |
| 04:02.40 | dvs | it's loading both the e1000 and e100 driver right? |
| 04:02.46 | voudras | wait - the e1000 driver is working, thats how im talking to you guy |
| 04:02.49 | voudras | guys* |
| 04:03.05 | stew | and the e100 driver isn't loaded by the lsmod | grep e1 above |
| 04:03.13 | voudras | no, i just manually loaded the e100 driver - but im still not able to |
| 04:03.17 | dvs | OH OK |
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| 04:03.23 | dvs | oops |
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| 04:04.00 | stew | voudras: can you "modprobe -r e100 ; modprobe e100 ; dmesg | tail" and put the results into a pastebin? (like http://paste.debian.net) |
| 04:04.09 | voudras | sure one sed |
| 04:04.10 | voudras | sec |
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| 04:04.54 | voudras | http://pastebin.com/miXYF5WR |
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| 04:05.24 | stew | voudras: and "ifconfig -a" still doesn't show this card, right? |
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| 04:05.51 | voudras | thats correct, although now i see pan0 - one sec i'll pastebin |
| 04:06.01 | voudras | (i've never seen pan0 before lol) |
| 04:06.20 | voudras | http://pastebin.com/k53xGTP1 |
| 04:06.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | a |
| 04:06.49 | voudras | when you said "still doesnt show" im thinking as normal - i.e. eth1 |
| 04:07.04 | stew | pan0 is bluetooth |
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| 04:07.21 | voudras | i dunno how the fuck thats possible - this system has none of that |
| 04:07.27 | voudras | its a poweredge sc1420 |
| 04:07.51 | voudras | boggle |
| 04:08.11 | yagoo | voudras, you have an onboard intel gigabit nic? |
| 04:08.41 | stew | it might not be fucking possible, it might just be some module that got somehow loaded |
| 04:08.48 | stew | yagoo: he does |
| 04:09.01 | yagoo | voudras, what is the second nic ? |
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| 04:09.29 | voudras | output of lspci -v here -> http://pastebin.com/SxnGFVuk |
| 04:09.48 | voudras | yagoo: yea - i think the onboard one is that |
| 04:09.59 | t3a | why is flash in the debian respitory? |
| 04:10.05 | voudras | 03:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82556 EtherExpress PRO/100 Smart (rev 0d) |
| 04:10.05 | voudras | 03:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545GM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 04) |
| 04:10.58 | stew | t3a: what do you mean? |
| 04:11.11 | voudras | he prolly means cause it is propriatary |
| 04:11.16 | voudras | flash like swf |
| 04:11.17 | t3a | its non-free isn't it? However they use Iceweasel. |
| 04:11.29 | stew | t3a: you mean the flashplugin-nonfree package or gnash or what? |
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| 04:11.56 | stew | t3a: flashplugin-nonfree isn't flash, its a free downloader script which knows how to download flash from adobe |
| 04:12.00 | voudras | stew, yagoo - appreciate the input guys |
| 04:12.00 | t3a | I assume the former because a flash based website ran free |
| 04:12.14 | t3a | *ran fine |
| 04:12.22 | stew | could be either. gnash is actually free and in debian and runs everything up to flash 9 fine |
| 04:12.58 | stew | t3a: if you go to "about:plugins" you should be able to see which plugin you are using |
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| 04:13.28 | stew | voudras: my guess is that actually the kmuto site is inaccurate and your card became unsupported when eepro100 was dropped |
| 04:13.40 | voudras | the kicker is that i run insmod e100 and in messages it just shows it loading, not the connect stuffs |
| 04:13.44 | voudras | modprobe i mean |
| 04:13.45 | t3a | hmm, maybe it is gnash |
| 04:13.58 | voudras | ok stew |
| 04:14.00 | voudras | one sec |
| 04:14.33 | yagoo | voudras, maybe u can try to load e1000 with debug feature (modinfo e1000) |
| 04:14.42 | stew | e1000 is working fine |
| 04:14.53 | yagoo | thought he said e100 is working |
| 04:15.14 | voudras | ok i just ran a grep on eepro100 recursivly in /usr/src/linux and got dick |
| 04:15.21 | voudras | and e100 did load |
| 04:15.28 | voudras | just didnt hook up |
| 04:15.41 | voudras | [ 4112.590366] e100: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver, 3.5.24-k2-NAPI |
| 04:15.41 | voudras | [ 4112.590372] e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation |
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| 04:15.58 | stew | voudras: what does this return (if anything): grep '8086.*1228' /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/* |
| 04:15.59 | voudras | i dont get the .. hook messages - for lack of better words |
| 04:16.11 | voudras | nadds |
| 04:16.12 | voudras | naddas |
| 04:16.15 | voudras | nadda |
| 04:16.28 | stew | voudras: do you still have an older kernel? |
| 04:16.30 | voudras | sorry - this problem has driven me to drink |
| 04:16.35 | stew | cheers |
| 04:16.35 | yagoo | voudras, you're connected right now with the pci card and not the onboard, correct? |
| 04:16.43 | voudras | Linux buddha 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 04:01:41 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 04:16.53 | voudras | lemme verify yagoo |
| 04:16.58 | stew | voudras: you just upgraded right? is the 2.6.26 kernel still installed? |
| 04:17.03 | voudras | yea onboard |
| 04:17.10 | yagoo | voudras, you sure? |
| 04:17.17 | voudras | absolutely sure |
| 04:17.23 | yagoo | voudras, the onboard is mentioned as the gigabit |
| 04:17.30 | voudras | yea |
| 04:17.31 | voudras | i know |
| 04:17.44 | voudras | the e100 driver is not connecting |
| 04:17.45 | stew | voudras: does this return anything: grep -i '8086.*1228' /lib/modules/*/module* |
| 04:17.47 | voudras | the e1000 is |
| 04:17.59 | voudras | nothing stwe |
| 04:18.01 | voudras | stew |
| 04:18.15 | yagoo | so try e100 with debug (modinfo e100) |
| 04:18.20 | voudras | loading but not hooking up with the card, i mean |
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| 04:18.38 | stew | if these greps are not returning anything, he doesn't have a driver for it |
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| 04:18.50 | stew | voudras: the 2.6.26 kernel is gone? |
| 04:19.02 | stew | (or whatever previous kernel) |
| 04:19.13 | voudras | yagoo: http://pastebin.com/Rx1SxkFF |
| 04:19.35 | stew | there you go |
| 04:19.38 | stew | no 1228 in that paste |
| 04:19.48 | stew | so we can ignore that driver |
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| 04:20.30 | voudras | i had some problems for which made me grab a new drive and install clean. the old drive (and all my stuff) is present but i've been trying to just get this essentially back to where it was without touching old stuff |
| 04:20.43 | voudras | last kernel i had was um |
| 04:20.46 | stew | nm |
| 04:20.56 | stew | if you don't have it to grep in, forget it |
| 04:20.58 | stew | i can |
| 04:21.09 | ZitZ | hi, has anyone managed to get wake-on-usb on a debian box? |
| 04:21.42 | voudras | i can mount and check that shit - i actually tried just rolling a kernel off the last .config but it didnt quite fly |
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| 04:23.14 | t3a | what just happened? |
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| 04:23.14 | zhanshime1 | ?????? |
| 04:23.14 | stew | voudras: you are going to have to either see if there is an out of tree driver for it, or hope that support for it is added in some newer kernel |
| 04:23.14 | ZitZ | net split |
| 04:23.14 | voudras | thats called a netsplit |
| 04:23.14 | zhanshime1 | what's wrong? |
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| 04:23.52 | t3a | oh, so they're in Egypt |
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| 04:24.18 | voudras | stew: yea, i tried rerolling one but it didnt fly... i was hoping i was just missing something (my original question about networking restart) i thought i was just out of the loop |
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| 04:24.28 | voudras | but ya |
| 04:24.34 | voudras | thanks for your help stew |
| 04:24.49 | debclair | stew, how do i reload all Alsa modules? rebooting? |
| 04:25.31 | stew | debclair: try /etc/init.d/alsa restart |
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| 04:29.45 | ZitZ | really, so a usb keyboard might not necessarily work? |
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| 04:30.05 | ZitZ | i know the computer's ports do support it |
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| 04:30.09 | voudras | might be defective |
| 04:30.16 | voudras | tried on other systems? |
| 04:30.24 | t3a | so close to 1000 users |
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| 04:30.37 | ZitZ | the usb keyboard works fine when i'm using it on that computer |
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| 04:31.12 | yagoo | ZitZ, the usb net adapter has to support it as well as the driver |
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| 04:32.54 | ZitZ | i thought the linux drivers would support it, i know the keyboard works |
| 04:33.09 | yagoo | ZitZ, thought you were referring to network magic packets relating to send wakeup |
| 04:33.23 | ZitZ | no, not wake on lan, wake on usb |
| 04:33.54 | ZitZ | if i can get wake on usb to work, then i'm moving on to wakeonlan, lol |
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| 04:34.36 | ZitZ | i read some documentation about adding some lines to rc.local, but debian doesn't make much use of a rc.local, but i tried it anyway and it didn't work unsurprisingly |
| 04:35.23 | yagoo | ZitZ, well first thing if i checked everything software in the OS, is to check the bios, make sure it is on usb 2.xx, or try upgrading the bios for a last shot :) |
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| 04:36.20 | ZitZ | yeah, i've checked the bios about 5 different times now to look for it, and played around with the default acpi sleep mode |
| 04:36.38 | yagoo | ZitZ, did u try upgrading it |
| 04:37.04 | ZitZ | no i did not, but this is a brand new machine, just got it, they made them last year, a zotac zbox |
| 04:37.20 | ZitZ | and the machine says it supports it on all but 2 usb ports, and i know which ports those are |
| 04:37.39 | voudras | ok so looking at the old partitions (by looking i mean grepping a lot) i found this |
| 04:37.44 | voudras | modprobe.d/blacklist:14:blacklist eepro100 |
| 04:38.28 | voudras | now this system was working fine aside from some other issues and i deciced to just reinstall etc |
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| 04:39.52 | dvs | voudras: the comment saif eepro100 was replaced by e100 |
| 04:39.55 | voudras | btw, why is /etc/init.d/networking restart depreciated and whats the replace? |
| 04:39.57 | dvs | said |
| 04:40.03 | voudras | ah ty |
| 04:40.30 | voudras | actually i dont care why - whats the replace? stop / start? |
| 04:41.12 | jmarsden | voudras: probably service networking restart if you are going do to things the upstart way? |
| 04:41.29 | voudras | ah shit |
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| 04:42.03 | puff | Is there a way to invoke adduser with an existing user, to create the appropriate home directory, .files, etc? |
| 04:42.10 | voudras | i hate the service stuff |
| 04:42.28 | voudras | thanks just the same jmarsden |
| 04:42.49 | voudras | # service networking restart |
| 04:42.49 | voudras | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). |
| 04:42.50 | voudras | Reconfiguring network interfaces...done. |
| 04:42.51 | voudras | lol |
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| 04:43.06 | voudras | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). |
| 04:43.21 | t3a | pastie.org |
| 04:43.24 | voudras | Reconfiguring network interfaces...done. |
| 04:43.53 | yagoo | ZitZ, i saw some things about /proc/acpi/wakeup .. apparently i'm able to do cat /proc/acpi/wakeup.. but dont mess around with this unless u've seen someone else have a workaround |
| 04:44.00 | voudras | lol thats from using "service networking restart", which im doing in place of /etc/init.d.networking restart" ? wtf |
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| 04:45.32 | jmarsden | voudras: Then I don't know why you're seeing the warning... sounds like something else is causing it. |
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| 04:47.31 | yagoo | puff, /etc/skel is the default bash related stuff for adduser with -m |
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| 04:50.13 | voudras | i just read that a second time "it may not enable again some interfaces" <-- that doesnt make sense |
| 04:51.09 | jmarsden | voudras: It may not reenable some interfaces. Sounds like English written by a non-native speaker, to me. |
| 04:51.09 | stew | yeah its written in en_IT |
| 04:51.38 | somnus | good night |
| 04:51.43 | voudras | night |
| 04:51.58 | yagoo | voudras, if you tried the debug options with modprobe, you should get more verbose output in hte system log |
| 04:52.45 | yagoo | voudras, maybe it's a cheapie irq conflict |
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| 04:53.11 | voudras | hmm - i was running irqbalance before |
| 04:53.23 | voudras | for some reason that popped into my brain |
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| 04:53.51 | voudras | remember having some sort of problem |
| 04:54.43 | puff | yagoo: adduser doesn't have -m, that's useradd... but when I do "sudo useradd -m username" it says "user uesrname already exists" |
| 04:54.56 | voudras | yagoo: well i would expect more log if that was the case |
| 04:55.07 | voudras | conflicts i mean |
| 04:55.51 | voudras | HANG ON - wait wait wait |
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| 04:56.00 | ZitZ | yagoo: that's what i played around with, but doesn't work |
| 04:56.06 | voudras | i think the e100 card is grabbing the e1000 driver |
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| 04:56.22 | voudras | who asked me if the gigabid card was active |
| 04:56.23 | joe6 | gdm3 seems to be pretty buggy. it does not use the xkboptions of /etc/default/keyboard |
| 04:56.43 | voudras | check this out |
| 04:56.46 | joe6 | voudras: why don't you setup the rules in udev? |
| 04:57.19 | voudras | dood - udev is still a bit new to me |
| 04:57.41 | stew | voudras: "grabbing the e1000 driver"? |
| 04:57.45 | voudras | i havent had to deal with this stuff in a long time and last i did udev was .. optional |
| 04:57.51 | voudras | yea |
| 04:57.53 | voudras | check this out |
| 04:58.01 | voudras | 03:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545GM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 04) |
| 04:58.02 | voudras | ... |
| 04:58.07 | voudras | Kernel driver in use: e1000 |
| 04:58.15 | voudras | thats ok right? now in dmesg i see... |
| 04:58.15 | stew | so? |
| 04:58.36 | voudras | [ 2.178798] e1000: eth0: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection |
| 04:58.43 | voudras | wrong card? |
| 04:58.51 | stew | wrong how? |
| 04:59.02 | stew | it seems to be working or you wouldn't be talking to us, right? |
| 04:59.09 | voudras | i have two |
| 04:59.10 | voudras | 03:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82556 EtherExpress PRO/100 Smart (rev 0d) |
| 04:59.10 | voudras | 03:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82545GM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 04) |
| 04:59.19 | stew | yes, but you don't have a driver for one of them |
| 04:59.20 | voudras | right but |
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| 04:59.34 | joe6 | voudras: check this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/z*-persistent-net-rules* |
| 04:59.37 | voudras | ah ok - yea your right |
| 04:59.49 | stew | joe6: that's not going to help him, he doesn't have a driver that supports the other card |
| 04:59.50 | voudras | ls /etc/udev/rules.d/z*-persistent-net-rules* |
| 04:59.50 | voudras | ls: cannot access /etc/udev/rules.d/z*-persistent-net-rules*: No such file or directory |
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| 05:00.07 | stew | voudras: its the one starting with 70, but its not going to help |
| 05:00.24 | stew | voudras: he's telling you where you could rename your non-existing interface |
| 05:00.41 | joe6 | but, atleast it can ensure he uses the correct card with the correct interface and driver |
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| 05:01.05 | joe6 | stew: am just a newbie, so you have the floor here. I am just popping out something that had helped me. |
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| 05:01.21 | stew | joe6: so if he wants eth0 to be named something other than eth0, yes, that is the place. it doesn't help him use the card for which he has no driver, which is what he is hoping to do |
| 05:01.34 | voudras | persistant net rules has this in it |
| 05:01.36 | voudras | # PCI device 0x8086:0x1026 (e1000) |
| 05:01.36 | voudras | SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:14:22:58:36:da", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" |
| 05:01.47 | voudras | and that is this |
| 05:01.53 | voudras | ./etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 05:02.07 | stew | voudras: do you want to change the name of eth0 to something different? |
| 05:02.20 | voudras | no i want eth1 to work |
| 05:02.23 | stew | voudras: then you are done with that file |
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| 05:03.56 | voudras | i think i might have to build the drivers into the kernel |
| 05:04.09 | stew | voudras: anything that anyone tells you do do other than finding a driver either by trying a different kernel or by compiling an out of tree module isn't likely to help. we've already looked at every driver in this kernel, and none of them claim to support your card |
| 05:04.35 | voudras | this worked fine before i reinstalled |
| 05:04.38 | stew | perhaps eepro100 used to support your card, but that driver is no longer in the kernel |
| 05:04.45 | dvs | unless there's firmware involved, which I doubt. |
| 05:04.53 | voudras | but i apparently had that blacklisted |
| 05:04.56 | stew | no, not unless firmware is involved |
| 05:05.05 | stew | unless the firmware is going to change the device id |
| 05:06.03 | voudras | hang on - let me find/grep the only lib/modules |
| 05:06.41 | stew | 23:17 < stew> voudras: does this return anything: grep -i '8086.*1228' /lib/modules/*/module* |
| 05:07.07 | voudras | no |
| 05:07.11 | voudras | it does not |
| 05:07.20 | voudras | hang on - let me try old path |
| 05:07.23 | stew | right, now change that to 1229 and see what you would see for a different variant with that card |
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| 05:07.51 | exobyte | I have a hard drive that's locked with a password I know. The BIOS isn't asking me for it. Is there a way to unlock it from the command prompt? |
| 05:08.00 | voudras | nope |
| 05:08.19 | voudras | exobyte: encrypted you mean? |
| 05:08.20 | exobyte | voudras: me? |
| 05:08.22 | stew | voudras: so you have another kernel on that machine that used to be able to use that card? |
| 05:08.33 | voudras | yes stew |
| 05:08.43 | stew | voudras: which kernel? |
| 05:08.52 | exobyte | voudras: not quite. hard drives have a controller-level password lock that you can use |
| 05:09.28 | voudras | boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26 |
| 05:09.46 | stew | ahh, a custom kernel |
| 05:09.53 | voudras | yea |
| 05:10.05 | stew | voudras: with the driver built into the kernel |
| 05:10.06 | stew | ? |
| 05:10.11 | voudras | well i |
| 05:10.16 | voudras | yea prolly - hang on |
| 05:10.20 | exobyte | voudras: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA#HDD_passwords_and_security |
| 05:10.46 | stew | voudras: if the module was compiled in instead of as a module, it would explain why the grep doesn't turn up when you search the modules for the deviceid |
| 05:11.10 | voudras | # CONFIG_EEPRO100 is not set |
| 05:11.10 | voudras | CONFIG_E100=y |
| 05:11.17 | voudras | ^^^ hah shit |
| 05:11.25 | voudras | thats .config in old path |
| 05:11.29 | voudras | old drive |
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| 05:12.02 | voudras | stew: this is a whole new install so thats not surprising, right |
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| 05:13.21 | voudras | i already copied .config to the new kernel path and make/install and rebooted with it and kernel panic'd - apparently some shit changed there too |
| 05:13.22 | voudras | but |
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| 05:14.06 | voudras | i guess i know my next step now - rebuild again and get panic issue resolved - hopefully building the drivers into the kernel like before will actually resolve this |
| 05:14.44 | voudras | i vaguely remember going through this before with this machine - it was like 4 years ago |
| 05:14.51 | voudras | maybe 6 |
| 05:14.54 | voudras | fuck time flys |
| 05:15.51 | stew | voudras: there is no reason to rebuild this kernel |
| 05:16.05 | voudras | i'd like to agree |
| 05:16.21 | voudras | but clearly something is not clicking |
| 05:16.37 | voudras | it worked with 2.6.whatever - not that distant |
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| 05:18.03 | voudras | i've been trying to remeber possible config files i might check on the old system thast might help |
| 05:18.19 | stew | this isn't a configuration problem |
| 05:18.25 | exobyte | voudras: it looks like it's hdparm --user-master USER --security-unlock PASSWORD |
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| 05:18.57 | mohadib | hello |
| 05:19.09 | mohadib | does squeeze use upstart? |
| 05:19.25 | voudras | but, what was it - /etc/modutils/ is gone lol |
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| 05:19.50 | voudras | exobyte: ahh - intersting, and i think you answered your own question =) |
| 05:19.58 | kblessinggr | anyone use ufw here? a simple ufw delete 1 isn't worknig for me, its simply outputting the usage, even though the usage says itself "delete RULE" |
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| 05:20.20 | exobyte | voudras: after some guessing and RTFMing |
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| 05:20.46 | voudras | stew: i know its not a simple config problem - but.. i've been checking the old drives in hopes of finding a clue to the proble |
| 05:21.00 | stew | ok |
| 05:21.11 | stew | i'm tired of restating what the problem is |
| 05:21.29 | voudras | thats understood |
| 05:21.32 | voudras | did i mention i |
| 05:21.39 | voudras | i've been drinkning? |
| 05:21.43 | stew | yes |
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| 05:22.04 | dvs | hides his bottle |
| 05:22.08 | voudras | good.. i think |
| 05:22.45 | voudras | well - to clarify - i know it is not a hardware issue |
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| 05:23.21 | voudras | and i can confirm that this worked on the old partition (for lack of better explination) |
| 05:23.56 | voudras | however, possible problem is that it did actuall (the NIC) shit the bed between (i'd expect more logs if that was the case)... |
| 05:24.22 | stew | voudras: to clarity, the issue is that the linux kernel dropped support for your card |
| 05:24.38 | voudras | e100.ko support was dropped? |
| 05:24.40 | stew | no |
| 05:24.48 | voudras | it uses e100 |
| 05:24.50 | yagoo | asks SNL Nick Burns to help voudras |
| 05:24.56 | stew | clearly not, since you've show us logs of loading and unloading that module |
| 05:24.57 | voudras | lol |
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| 05:25.09 | voudras | (lol was @ yagoo) |
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| 05:25.30 | voudras | and the old .config shows i was compiling e100 into the kernel |
| 05:25.35 | voudras | and not using eepro100 |
| 05:26.01 | voudras | this has nothing to do with eepro100 module unless i am totally bonked |
| 05:26.09 | stew | voudras: "/sbin/modinfo e100" will show you all the devices it supports, yours is 8086:1228, if it supports 8086:1228 then you'll see a line like this: "pci:v00008086d00001228sv*sd*bc02sc00i*" |
| 05:26.25 | voudras | ok one sec |
| 05:26.35 | stew | voudras: but note that we already did this like an hour ago |
| 05:26.45 | voudras | yea |
| 05:26.48 | voudras | i posted output |
| 05:26.49 | stew | we've in fact checked this at least 3 separate times |
| 05:26.59 | voudras | shit i am perhaps bonked |
| 05:27.13 | voudras | wait - hang on |
| 05:27.19 | stew | twice with grep |
| 05:27.22 | stew | in /lib/modules |
| 05:27.41 | stew | once with dmesg and debugging |
| 05:27.44 | stew | once with modinfo |
| 05:28.02 | voudras | 03:0d.0 0200: 8086:1228 (rev 0d) |
| 05:28.09 | voudras | thats the one that |
| 05:28.24 | dvs | which is not in e100 |
| 05:28.33 | voudras | fuck |
| 05:28.35 | voudras | ok |
| 05:28.48 | dvs | 8086:1229 is |
| 05:29.01 | voudras | copy that red leader |
| 05:29.32 | voudras | you know - in all the years i've been using linux i've never heard of a device support being dropped |
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| 05:30.19 | meder | is there a more thorough features/updates list than http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a ? |
| 05:30.22 | meder | for debian 5 vs 6 |
| 05:30.23 | xk | oldschool proprietary cdrom drives :) |
| 05:30.37 | stew | look, here's even a message announcing that support for this card is going away: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-01/8543.html |
| 05:30.48 | meder | http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ |
| 05:30.50 | meder | :o |
| 05:31.02 | voudras | not even that xk, serious - feels bad man |
| 05:31.04 | dvs | 2005? |
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| 05:31.16 | stew | yes, but it didn't actually go away then |
| 05:31.17 | voudras | stew |
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| 05:31.23 | xk | f00li5h:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 04) |
| 05:31.24 | xk | f00li5h:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 05) |
| 05:31.40 | voudras | stew: you've been quite helpful - please dont get frustrated. |
| 05:31.41 | stew | i'd guess that they tried supporting it in e100 and then dropped it |
| 05:31.50 | c4pt | hi where do debian-kfreebsd questions go here or somewhere else? |
| 05:32.16 | voudras | sounds like you should give the question a go and see if it flys, c4pt |
| 05:32.37 | c4pt | im trying to run debian-kfreebsd and it seems "idle" and "upowerd" are taking up massive amounts of cpu usage idle is taking close to 1000% of cpu usage and upowerd 99% max |
| 05:32.37 | stew | c4pt: they are welcome here. if we don't know, you might also try #debian-kbsd on irc.debian.org |
| 05:32.46 | c4pt | stew: ok thanx |
| 05:32.57 | c4pt | ive tried to kill upowerd and it didnt respawn |
| 05:33.09 | voudras | stew: well the good news is that the card is pci so i can swap that shit out. |
| 05:33.18 | c4pt | but when i kill -9 the idle process it instantly respawns with like 800-1000% cpu usage |
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| 05:34.15 | c4pt | ive tried to turn off kern.sched.steal_idle=1 to 0 with sysctl also |
| 05:34.18 | voudras | wow - respawns? fuck tea i'll stick to coffee |
| 05:34.22 | c4pt | doesnt seem to help |
| 05:35.10 | c4pt | the idle process meaing "idle" it is pid 11 on this system |
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| 05:35.27 | voudras | shit, i read that too fast and tried to make a kde joke - but you're talking kernel proc hhaaha |
| 05:35.32 | jhambo | best debian ever. thanks all |
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| 05:36.12 | c4pt | voudras: ;D |
| 05:36.28 | voudras | =) |
| 05:37.06 | voudras | stew, yagoo: thanks guys for the halp. much appreciated. |
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| 05:41.23 | f00li5h | xk: what? |
| 05:41.32 | xk | dodgey nick completion |
| 05:41.49 | f00li5h | i see. |
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| 05:44.35 | c4pt | basically i just want to stop /proc/11 from running.. to see if it helps |
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| 05:47.13 | cantido | Are all the package lists in bzip format? is it possible to have gzip? |
| 05:48.01 | stew | cantido: on the repositories? |
| 05:48.08 | yagoo | cantido, ? |
| 05:48.09 | stew | like here: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/ ? |
| 05:48.16 | cantido | stew: yeah, bzip2 is a killer for embedded systems |
| 05:48.39 | cantido | the SH4 port doesnt have diffs and the package list is bzip2, which takes an age to decompressed |
| 05:48.47 | cantido | s/decompressed/decompress/ |
| 05:48.51 | stew | the package list is also gzip |
| 05:49.01 | joe6 | smartmontools is pretty cool. |
| 05:49.08 | cantido | stew: ah, so its possible then |
| 05:49.26 | stew | cantido: search apt.conf manpage for CompressionTypes |
| 05:49.58 | joe6 | i am installing raid1 on 2 of my harddisks to protect against disk crashes. Yesterday, there was a recommendation to have Raid1 and lvm with snapshots for backup as an ideal setup. |
| 05:50.09 | cantido | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-ports/dists/unstable/main/binary-sh4/ |
| 05:50.22 | joe6 | I noticed that lvm does not install on the rot filesystem atleast the installation dvd would not let me. |
| 05:50.27 | cantido | there is gzip there.. I'll try to make apt use it :) |
| 05:50.33 | joe6 | has someone else noticed the issue? |
| 05:50.55 | cantido | joe6: lvm on the rootfs? |
| 05:51.03 | cantido | joe6: lvm is lower than the fs |
| 05:51.10 | joe6 | i have one partition, so I am not sure if lvm is even needed for me, but for the snapshots |
| 05:51.25 | joe6 | cantido: on /, i mean. i am not sure about rootfs |
| 05:51.53 | cantido | joe6: yes / is at the fs level, lvm is at the blockdevice level.. you mean you want to put root on lvm? |
| 05:52.13 | joe6 | i had been using xterm all these days, and yesterday moved to gnome-terminal with inconsolata medium font and it is seriously good. |
| 05:52.49 | joe6 | cantido: i just want a simple setup and hence as i currently have one partition for everything other than swap, just use that for lvm too. |
| 05:52.49 | cantido | konsole has had a decent font for years ;) |
| 05:53.19 | cantido | joe6: LVM is at the same level as partitions, you create an LVM setup and create root etc on top of that |
| 05:53.20 | joe6 | i know i loved konsole when i tried it. but, the whole kde thing was too bloated around 2003, when i tried it. |
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| 05:53.37 | cantido | would have though Gnome is just as bad.. |
| 05:53.54 | joe6 | hence, moved to gnome and had to give up konsole. But, yesterday, tried konsole again and i think gnome-terminal is better atleast on gdm. |
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| 05:54.49 | joe6 | cantido: oh, ok. i have raid1 on my root partition disk. Can i add lvm on top of that? or will it be another fresh install? |
| 05:55.04 | cantido | joe6: you would put lvm on top of the MD array |
| 05:55.18 | cantido | I think LVM can do RAID1 type stuff though, not tried it |
| 05:55.40 | joe6 | cantido: other than the snapshots stuff, is there any other advantage to lvm? |
| 05:55.53 | joe6 | cantido: ok, will check for lvm stuff on google. |
| 05:56.16 | joe6 | cantido: just was not sure if anyone had tried converting to lvm on the running root file system. |
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| 05:57.01 | cantido | joe6: what functionality are you looking for with snapshots? |
| 05:57.06 | cantido | the ability to restore files? |
| 05:57.28 | joe6 | i noticed that with the latest testing firefox/iceweasel is a lot faster. almost feels like it does on windows. |
| 05:57.29 | cantido | stew: is it possible to force apt to redownload the package list? I've made the change, I want to try it |
| 05:57.42 | joe6 | cantido: more for a backup. |
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| 05:57.55 | cantido | joe6: it still scrolls like arse.. chromium is really really nice |
| 05:58.14 | cantido | joe6: look at rdiff-backup instead, lvm snapshots probably arent what you want |
| 05:58.52 | joe6 | cantido: ok, thanks a lot. |
| 05:59.26 | joe6 | cantido: don't you agree that it has a lot faster feel to it. I was not sure if it was just my computer. |
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| 06:00.08 | cantido | I use rdiff-backup to do daily dumps of my desktop machine.. it only updates the files that have changed |
| 06:00.38 | cantido | joe6: I've not really used it on windows.. I use a slow machine anyhow,.. so if anything is slow I just blame the machine |
| 06:01.08 | joe6 | squeeze is the new testing? |
| 06:01.42 | cantido | squeeze is now stable |
| 06:01.53 | joe6 | cantido: yes, it was very slow for me. it got to a point where i just hooked up another slow machine just for firefox as both Xserver and firefox were killing the one machine. |
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| 06:02.15 | mitrick | anyone up that can help me with debian |
| 06:02.17 | joe6 | cantido: oh, ok. |
| 06:02.22 | c4pt | :/ |
| 06:02.40 | cantido | joe6: try chromium, its as fast as konq but with the compatibility of firefox |
| 06:02.43 | c4pt | kill -s stop 11 seems to pause it |
| 06:02.51 | mitrick | everytime i connect my lexar usb thumbdrive it wont mount why ! and its fat32 |
| 06:03.10 | cantido | mitrick: what does dmesg say when you plug it in |
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| 06:03.54 | kblessinggr | I have a problem with ufw , when I add a port, its not automatically updating ip6tables |
| 06:03.55 | joe6 | cantido: how do you use debian. Do you always point to testing and upgrade once a month or so. or do you just use stable, once you have a working configuration? |
| 06:04.01 | kblessinggr | and yes IPV6=yes is enabled |
| 06:04.04 | mitrick | [160910.469545] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 06:04.04 | mitrick | [160911.467210] UDF-fs: No anchor found |
| 06:04.04 | mitrick | [160911.467218] UDF-fs: Rescanning with blocksize 2048 |
| 06:04.04 | mitrick | [160911.563193] UDF-fs: No anchor found |
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| 06:04.58 | joe6 | cantido: isn't chromium google's browser? chrome? |
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| 06:05.14 | mitrick | im doing pastebin |
| 06:05.18 | mitrick | since i cant paste here |
| 06:05.37 | joe6 | or is it an opensource software? i am just a little nervous about using google for more than what I should. |
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| 06:06.08 | cantido | joe6: chromium is the "open" version |
| 06:06.13 | mitrick | cantido, http://paste.debian.net/106994/ |
| 06:06.44 | cantido | mitrick: ok, and mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt doesnt work? |
| 06:06.51 | joe6 | what is the recommended approach to using debian? for users, i mean. For any software i am working on or i really like, i just do a local install. |
| 06:07.15 | joe6 | install stable and stick with it? |
| 06:07.38 | cantido | if you install squeeze you'll be happy for a few months |
| 06:07.38 | joe6 | or start off with a version such as squeeze and stick with that. |
| 06:07.50 | cantido | after that you might want backports |
| 06:08.00 | joe6 | cantido: oh, that makes sense. |
| 06:08.21 | cantido | with gzip package lists my apt-get update time is down from 10 minutes to 2. yay! |
| 06:08.27 | joe6 | i tend to stick with testing, and get security updates from stable. is that a good approach? |
| 06:08.44 | cantido | joe6: you shouldnt mix security updates from stable with testing |
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| 06:09.02 | cantido | testing has limited security support anyways |
| 06:09.20 | joe6 | cantido: oh, ok. |
| 06:09.43 | mitrick | yes i can mount in console |
| 06:09.51 | joe6 | cantido: so, how do you ensure security updates in testing? |
| 06:09.53 | cantido | mitrick: are you using gnome? |
| 06:09.59 | joe6 | or, are they not worth it? |
| 06:10.12 | cantido | joe6: read the DSA list.. updates for testing do happen |
| 06:10.16 | mitrick | yes gnome |
| 06:10.32 | cantido | joe6: a lot of the time an issue thats in stable isn't present in testing anymore |
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| 06:11.14 | joe6 | cantido: ok, thanks. |
| 06:11.15 | mitrick | cantido, yes im on gnome h ere |
| 06:11.26 | cantido | i.e. exim has a bad exploit a few months ago.. but that was already fixed in testing before anyone noticed |
| 06:11.37 | cantido | joe6: don't run testing on production systems though ;) |
| 06:11.56 | cantido | mitrick: I don't know how gnomes mounter works.. |
| 06:12.25 | cantido | I would guess that its not getting some event to tell it that a usb disk was connected |
| 06:12.34 | mitrick | that sucks i love my debian distro just that is a lots of bugs like that |
| 06:12.54 | cantido | mitrick: well, you should have reported them before squeeze went stable |
| 06:12.56 | cantido | ;) |
| 06:13.06 | buntunub | hey does disbling access control on the xserver a bad thing? |
| 06:13.21 | buntunub | by running xhost + |
| 06:13.24 | c4pt | sorry i guess it was a dumb question |
| 06:13.29 | mitrick | i was using linux mint debian edition before |
| 06:13.40 | c4pt | disabling upowerd by itself seemed to fix gdm3 from taking ions in time to load |
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| 06:13.51 | buntunub | reason i ask is because i cant run some x apps under sudo without doing that |
| 06:13.53 | c4pt | as suggested in the debian kbsd faq |
| 06:14.07 | cantido | buntunub: you need to share your authority with root |
| 06:14.12 | joe6 | gdm3 seems to be buggy. |
| 06:14.20 | joe6 | went back to gdm. |
| 06:14.24 | cantido | buntunub: what you are doing is allowing anyone to connect instead of just authorising root |
| 06:14.33 | joe6 | even xkboptions would not work with gdm3 |
| 06:14.42 | cantido | buntunub: keep it in the channel |
| 06:15.13 | joe6 | buntunub: http://factorial.hu/articles/20080302/more-robust-remote-x-tunneling |
| 06:15.17 | buntunub | how can i safely share authority under xhost |
| 06:15.34 | joe6 | buntunub: forget about xhost and xdm authorization. use ssh |
| 06:15.51 | cantido | buntunub: I'm not sure how you are supposed to do it with sudo.. you can use sux to su to copy over your authorisation |
| 06:15.53 | mitrick | so what should i do to fix this bug |
| 06:15.53 | Arrowmaster | sudo by default should allow the env vars that allow that to be retained |
| 06:15.57 | joe6 | buntunub: http://www.jfranken.de/homepages/johannes/vortraege/ssh2_inhalt.en.html |
| 06:16.11 | cantido | joe6: he/she isn't doing that |
| 06:16.28 | cantido | joe6: they are changing user and trying to run X applications on the server owned by their user |
| 06:16.46 | joe6 | oh, ok. sorry, i misunderstood the question. |
| 06:17.07 | cantido | I thought it "just worked" with sudo |
| 06:17.10 | joe6 | i thought he was on different computers. |
| 06:17.10 | buntunub | i am logged into my only user account and typing "sudo kate" |
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| 06:17.25 | buntunub | and i get kate: cannot connect to X server :0 |
| 06:17.33 | joe6 | buntunub: how about the .Xauthority file? |
| 06:17.59 | joe6 | can you copy that from the user with X to the user that wants to use it. |
| 06:18.10 | buntunub | there is just one user |
| 06:18.13 | buntunub | no root account |
| 06:18.23 | joe6 | so, who is running the xserver? |
| 06:18.24 | cantido | buntunub: are you using ubuntu? |
| 06:18.29 | buntunub | the one user |
| 06:18.35 | buntunub | no debian |
| 06:18.46 | cantido | since when did debian not have a root user? |
| 06:18.49 | buntunub | the installer asks if you want to enable a root account and i said no |
| 06:18.53 | Arrowmaster | pastebin the output from sudo env |
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| 06:19.32 | joe6 | in teh installer, it asks for no root too. I just did the install yesterday and sudo for me too. |
| 06:19.33 | cantido | Arrowmaster: I've tried just sudo'ing here.. it doesnt work.. |
| 06:19.47 | buntunub | http://pastebin.com/UR7UDiNH |
| 06:19.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how can i share the network of my latop with another latop |
| 06:19.51 | cantido | really? you still have a root account though |
| 06:20.05 | joe6 | cantido: yes, there is. |
| 06:20.10 | cantido | Eryn_1983_FL: share internet? |
| 06:20.22 | Arrowmaster | buntunub: can you pastebin the output of normal env |
| 06:20.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | yes |
| 06:20.40 | cantido | joe6: debian has done an ubuntu and disabled logins as root by default then? I havent installed in a long time ;) |
| 06:20.54 | cantido | Eryn_1983_FL: ipmasq is an easy way to do it |
| 06:20.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 06:21.02 | Arrowmaster | cantido: no its just an option in the expert install, its been there for a long time |
| 06:21.04 | joe6 | cantido: it asks in the installation menu. |
| 06:21.16 | cantido | Arrowmaster: really? I haven't installed in 2 years.. |
| 06:21.32 | Arrowmaster | it was there in the lenny installer i think |
| 06:21.48 | cantido | sudo wasn't in the standard install ~lenny was it? |
| 06:21.55 | joe6 | yes, lenny install |
| 06:22.20 | joe6 | buntunub: how about your Xorg.0.log? |
| 06:22.26 | Arrowmaster | buntunub: ok part of the problem is you dont have an XAUTHORITY env for anything being run from sudo |
| 06:22.52 | Arrowmaster | since you told me that env is erroring normally i think something else is really messed up |
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| 06:23.21 | buntunub | no Arrow i just didnt understand what you were asking :P |
| 06:23.24 | buntunub | hang on |
| 06:23.29 | cantido | Arrowmaster: I don't have that in my env either ;) |
| 06:23.46 | Arrowmaster | i think thats the var |
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| 06:23.58 | buntunub | http://pastebin.com/tu4bU7aV |
| 06:24.03 | Arrowmaster | my debian box has a dead PSU right now so im stuck on a windows laptop |
| 06:24.12 | buntunub | i typed "normal env" |
| 06:24.16 | cantido | XDG_SESSION_COOKIE? |
| 06:24.22 | buntunub | instead of just "env" :P |
| 06:24.44 | Arrowmaster | cantido: what DE you using? |
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| 06:25.07 | cantido | Arrowmaster: KDE |
| 06:25.16 | belak | can you do a base install from a live cd? |
| 06:25.25 | Arrowmaster | maybe its something with KDE then |
| 06:25.44 | belak | Either that, or is there ANY sort of browser on the netinstall? |
| 06:25.47 | Arrowmaster | because with gnome i have the XAUTHORITY (again i think thats the var maybe not) which is preserved by sudo |
| 06:25.50 | buntunub | KDE_MULTIHEAD=false ?? |
| 06:25.59 | cantido | Arrowmaster: maybe gnome sets that? Some one else here said that sudo should just work here ages ago.. |
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| 06:26.17 | cantido | Arrowmaster: and it didnt work on my machine then ;) |
| 06:26.21 | Arrowmaster | i think its set in the Xsession that GDM runs for gnome |
| 06:26.37 | buntunub | well... if i set xhost + everything then works with sudo |
| 06:26.48 | cahoot | buntunub: perhaps this applies? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=586685 |
| 06:26.54 | buntunub | but its a pain to keep doing xhost - afterwards |
| 06:27.06 | cantido | buntunub: what X11 app are you running as root |
| 06:27.45 | buntunub | for example, "sudo kate /var/log/messages" |
| 06:27.51 | cantido | buntunub: why are you running kate as root |
| 06:27.55 | buntunub | gets the error |
| 06:28.01 | cantido | buntunub: sudo more /var/log/messages |
| 06:28.04 | buntunub | unless i do xhost + |
| 06:28.14 | Arrowmaster | ok try setting XAUTHORITY to the location of your ~/.Xauthority file (absolute path though) |
| 06:28.18 | buntunub | just as an example |
| 06:28.22 | Arrowmaster | and then see if sudo works |
| 06:28.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | cantido: do i need two nic cards?!?! |
| 06:28.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | i only got wif and a nic |
| 06:28.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont got any cables either so i a sol then? |
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| 06:29.15 | cantido | Eryn_1983_FL: which is the internet connection connected to? |
| 06:29.19 | belak | Is it possible to do a base install from the CD1? I'm trying to install on a powerpc and I can't get internet without a browser of somesort and it doesn't appear that elinks, w3m, lynx or even cURL are installed on the netinstall |
| 06:29.23 | buntunub | sorry.. what would the command be to do that Arrow |
| 06:29.29 | joe6 | Eryn_1983_FL: how about a hub? |
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| 06:29.45 | belak | Either that or wpa_supplicant which is also not on the net install |
| 06:29.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | MY LATOP |
| 06:29.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | and i wanted to share it with my friend |
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| 06:30.04 | Arrowmaster | buntunub: export XAUTHORITY=/home/dave/.Xauthority |
| 06:30.08 | cantido | belak: if you install with cd1 and select system I think you will get w3m |
| 06:30.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | he cant get to it his range is not that great |
| 06:30.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | no hubs |
| 06:30.16 | cantido | belak: standard system |
| 06:30.30 | belak | cantido: does using CD1 mean I'm going to et gnome? |
| 06:30.30 | cantido | Eryn_1983_FL: so you want to share it over ethernet? |
| 06:30.34 | belak | s/et/get/ |
| 06:30.47 | cantido | belak: there are two CD1 images IIRC one for kde and one for gnome |
| 06:31.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | 802.11 |
| 06:31.13 | buntunub | that worked Arrow |
| 06:31.31 | Arrowmaster | ok that is the problem |
| 06:31.32 | buntunub | thanks guys for the help and patience |
| 06:31.39 | Arrowmaster | KDE is not setting XAUTHORITY env var |
| 06:31.49 | cantido | Eryn_1983_FL: you can use ipmasq to setup NAT for machines on the ethernet port so they can route stuff out the wifi.. that isnt a problem |
| 06:31.51 | Arrowmaster | somebody needs to report that as a bug if its not already reported |
| 06:31.53 | buntunub | if i type "sudo kate" now kate pops up on :0 |
| 06:32.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 06:32.14 | buntunub | i will do so |
| 06:32.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
| 06:33.20 | Arrowmaster | im guessing this went unnoticed for so long because sudo only recently changed the default to stop preserving HOME by default |
| 06:33.25 | rozie | belak: you can install base from CD1 |
| 06:33.53 | rozie | there's a poing when you choose tasks - choose none (or base install) |
| 06:34.02 | belak | Thanks! |
| 06:34.27 | cantido | belak: if you choose no task you wont get a browser.. lynx, w3m etc |
| 06:34.47 | cantido | belak: I presume you have a resnet or something where you need to login before you will get full access |
| 06:34.48 | rozie | but he can install browser later |
| 06:34.55 | belak | cantido: yeah |
| 06:35.09 | belak | I can do either WPA or the stupid login thing |
| 06:35.12 | cantido | rozie: not if he can't get access to the intawebs ;) |
| 06:35.24 | cantido | belak: you could still install w3m off of the cd later though |
| 06:35.32 | belak | That's what I thouhgt |
| 06:35.48 | rozie | cantido: why not? if you install from CD it's added as a source to sources.list by default |
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| 06:36.09 | rozie | so if there's a package on CD1, it can be installed... |
| 06:36.23 | chipotle | is there any way i can get nginx on squeeze? |
| 06:36.32 | cantido | rozie: yes, he was using the netinst cd before.. |
| 06:36.39 | chipotle | (other than from nginx.org) |
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| 06:37.06 | cantido | chipotle: apt-cache search nginx returns nothing? |
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| 06:38.20 | rozie | chipotle: it's in repo 0.7.67-3 |
| 06:38.35 | linusasus6 | Hi I lost ubuntu from the grub menu |
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| 06:38.45 | Arrowmaster | good |
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| 06:39.25 | linusasus6 | I have update debian then when I restart ubuntu wasnt there |
| 06:39.41 | Arrowmaster | install os-prober |
| 06:39.57 | linusasus6 | ? |
| 06:40.20 | _jesse_ | linusasus6: apt-get install os-prober |
| 06:41.21 | linusasus6 | I have it already they say |
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| 06:43.23 | linusasus6 | any other suggestions? |
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| 06:44.46 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, no idea ... |
| 06:45.37 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, On what kind of partition + fs is ubuntu? |
| 06:45.59 | linusasus6 | extention 4 |
| 06:47.18 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, LVM or dm involved |
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| 06:47.34 | linusasus6 | ? |
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| 06:47.58 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, Are you using any LVM partitions? |
| 06:48.17 | linusasus6 | dunno what u mean |
| 06:48.53 | ElDiabolo | so probably not :) |
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| 06:52.10 | linusasus6 | my ubuntu partition are in sdc2 and sdc3 / and /home |
| 06:52.23 | linusasus6 | sdc4 is / of debian |
| 06:52.34 | linusasus6 | sdc5 is /boot |
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| 06:54.37 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, Did you try running update-grub ? |
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| 06:56.31 | linusasus6 | that it I think I see ubuntu in terminal |
| 06:56.47 | linusasus6 | thank it was so simple |
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| 06:57.36 | linusasus6 | I should memorize command I need to have it in my head |
| 06:57.45 | ElDiabolo | See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585715 |
| 06:58.38 | linusasus6 | oh ok so is common bug |
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| 07:00.58 | linusasus6 | thank will restart I guess the bug is corrected now |
| 07:01.13 | ElDiabolo | Hope so :) |
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| 07:04.49 | linusasus6 | nope bug still the same |
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| 07:06.35 | rkhshm1 | hi all |
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| 07:06.44 | rkhshm1 | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libaxis2c-dev |
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| 07:06.54 | rkhshm1 | i get that error .. should it be reported or something ? |
| 07:07.31 | ElDiabolo | linusasus6, but update-grub mentioned the partition while running? |
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| 07:08.50 | linusasus6 | ya that is strange that it say : Found Ubuntu 10.10 (10.10) on /dev/sdc2 |
| 07:09.07 | ElDiabolo | rkhshm1, I think this means the package isn't in squeeze. |
| 07:09.36 | rkhshm1 | hmm.. is there a substitute ? |
| 07:09.45 | rkhshm1 | becuase google search returns a hit |
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| 07:12.32 | linusasus6 | so the other solution is go on boot/menu.lst ? |
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| 07:14.44 | linusasus6 | the grub that debian using at the moment is graphical |
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| 07:17.02 | melo | morning, I upgraded to squeeze and had some problem with apt. Erros is:"/usr/lib/apt/methods/http: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Anybody may help me.. |
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| 07:21.16 | simonrvn | "no such file or directory" means what it says. problem is, why is it doing that? did you break something? did you forget something? |
| 07:21.50 | melo | I dont' know |
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| 07:22.38 | linusasus6 | well I guess is too late good nite then |
| 07:22.39 | melo | If I knew the Why I could solve it |
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| 07:23.21 | simonrvn | well, i'd start with reinstalling apt |
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| 07:24.05 | melo | I tried with: dpkg -i apt_0.8.10.3_i386.deb |
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| 07:24.23 | huglester | !squeeze pool |
| 07:24.24 | dpkg | The pool about when <Squeeze> would release was won by hid3 with 2011-02-05. stew was the most off-track. Ask me about <squeeze pool 1> and <squeeze pool 2> to see the bets placed. See also <wheezy pool>. |
| 07:24.37 | simonrvn | melo: and, what happened? |
| 07:24.42 | melo | nothing |
| 07:24.54 | melo | I have the same problem |
| 07:25.40 | simonrvn | melo: does dpkg -c that.deb show /usr/lib/apt/methods/http in it? |
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| 07:26.28 | simonrvn | amee2k: forget that, wrong file |
| 07:26.53 | simonrvn | apt package has /usr/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.10.1 |
| 07:26.53 | apt | ACTION puts has /usr/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.10.1 in an unmarked cardboard box on the top shelf of an inconveniently located closet |
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| 07:27.19 | simonrvn | apt: hush you |
| 07:27.35 | simonrvn | amee2k: sorry, mis-tab |
| 07:27.41 | simonrvn | melo: ^^ |
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| 07:28.51 | simonrvn | melo: see what that libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6 file is, maybe it's a dead symlink or something |
| 07:29.21 | melo | I try |
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| 07:30.36 | simonrvn | melo: it's in /usr/lib |
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| 07:33.20 | melo | simonrvn : http://pastebin.com/JVVb6mwh |
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| 07:39.32 | simonrvn | melo: what's dpkg -l libc6 say? are you sure you completed the upgrade? |
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| 07:40.54 | melo | I think upgarde is complete. http://pastebin.com/5ATwT7Ut |
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| 07:42.23 | hjubal | hi, after the dist-upgrade from lenny i386 to squeeze I cannot boot a kvm virtual machine with 2 |
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| 07:42.36 | hjubal | with kernel 2.6.32-5-686 |
| 07:42.55 | hjubal | but 2.6.26-2-686 works fine |
| 07:43.38 | hjubal | "Loading initial ramdisk ..." "Loading, please wait..." and it stucks |
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| 07:46.51 | simonrvn | melo: how about libstdc++6 (dpkg -l libstdc++6) |
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| 07:47.50 | melo | in advance really thanks for your help: http://pastebin.com/RgqYu468 |
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| 07:50.18 | simonrvn | melo: what was the result of looking at that libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6 file? |
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| 07:51.03 | simonrvn | melo: is it still there? i don't think that belongs to squeeze's apt. |
| 07:51.06 | Dirkos | I have a problem, since my upgrade to Sqeeuze my mysql wont start from init.d |
| 07:51.19 | melo | simonrvn : it is not exist on fs |
| 07:51.27 | simonrvn | Dirkos: turn logging on and see why |
| 07:51.34 | simonrvn | melo: ok |
| 07:52.19 | Dirkos | i enabled the log but when running init.d/mysql start it wont add a thing |
| 07:52.38 | simonrvn | check syslog |
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| 07:53.48 | Dirkos | http://pastebin.com/D9APpL77 |
| 07:54.14 | simonrvn | melo: it's good to put LANG=C in front of your command so people who don't understand italian can understand the messages (like me :) |
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| 07:54.34 | homecable | any one have a fast isp |
| 07:54.45 | simonrvn | Dirkos: uh, that's just one small little bit |
| 07:55.06 | Dirkos | nope that is it |
| 07:55.14 | Dirkos | wait i also have something in my error.log |
| 07:55.22 | Dirkos | http://pastebin.com/39b9ucQq |
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| 07:56.10 | melo | simonrvn : done :) |
| 07:56.59 | simonrvn | Dirkos: looks like an incomplete install to me. easy enough to fix. you could try reinstalling the mysql stuff, or go googling for it. mine did that, and i fixed it. something happened during the insallation and it died. |
| 07:57.25 | Dirkos | ah ok |
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| 07:57.38 | Dirkos | yeah i got an error while doing a mysqld restart during the upgrade |
| 07:57.49 | Dirkos | but when removing it i will loose my DB? |
| 07:57.58 | Dirkos | because there is no good backup though :) |
| 07:58.07 | simonrvn | no, it asks you if you want to keep it |
| 07:58.26 | simonrvn | there's a debconf screen that comes up |
| 07:58.45 | simonrvn | (blue screen with gold/yellow letters and trim) |
| 07:59.04 | Dirkos | so i can do it with aptitude? |
| 08:00.03 | simonrvn | with your 'weapon' of choice yes |
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| 08:00.19 | djszapi | Isn't the debian package a gnuar file ? |
| 08:00.32 | simonrvn | a what? |
| 08:00.38 | simonrvn | no, it's an ar |
| 08:01.16 | Dirkos | looks like it is working though :) |
| 08:01.32 | simonrvn | yeh, it started ok otherwise |
| 08:01.45 | djszapi | gnu ar |
| 08:01.51 | simonrvn | oh, yes |
| 08:02.02 | simonrvn | 2 tarballs and a file inside |
| 08:02.30 | simonrvn | the tars can be compressed with bz2, gzip or lzma/xz |
| 08:03.30 | djszapi | are the debian packages created by 'ar' ? |
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| 08:04.45 | simonrvn | good question actually, but you can unpack them with it |
| 08:05.15 | djszapi | sure, but I am interested in the creation. |
| 08:05.29 | djszapi | because I have just been told debian packages are not 'gnu ar'. |
| 08:05.39 | simonrvn | melo: i'm still thinking about your issue. i've seen that sort of error before, but fixing it i'm having a hard time remembering. |
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| 08:05.53 | simonrvn | who told you that? |
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| 08:06.13 | djszapi | does not matter who :) I would like to know the reality. |
| 08:06.25 | djszapi | (my colleague tho.) |
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| 08:07.16 | simonrvn | dpkg-deb builds them |
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| 08:07.26 | simonrvn | man it ;) |
| 08:08.01 | djszapi | yeps, I am doing that ;)- |
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| 08:08.31 | simonrvn | man 5 deb too |
| 08:08.36 | melo | simonrvn : thanks |
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| 08:09.37 | djszapi | simonrvn: there is no man page installed on my comp :P |
| 08:10.23 | melo | simonrvn : now I have to go away. If I'll solve it I'll notice you my solution |
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| 08:10.34 | djszapi | I guess you meant this: http://linuxreviews.org/man/deb/ |
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| 08:11.36 | lamah | how can i stop, services in debian? |
| 08:11.44 | lamah | perm? |
| 08:11.58 | tvm | /etc/init.d/service stop |
| 08:12.20 | feeen | when will the debian-volatile apt sources be enabled for squeeze? |
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| 08:13.18 | lamah | tvm: how can i remove the standart console debian font? |
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| 08:13.34 | lamah | tvm: i want fonr like from the boot |
| 08:13.42 | lamah | *font* |
| 08:13.53 | tvm | in tty ? |
| 08:13.56 | lamah | ye |
| 08:14.00 | simonrvn | melo: ok, so apt 0.8.10.3 is installed? the name of the apt-pkg file should be /usr/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.10.1 |
| 08:14.02 | lamah | yes |
| 08:14.29 | lamah | tvm: squeeze... |
| 08:14.46 | homecable | download http://darkinfo.org/foo.bar <<< want to test my isps uplink |
| 08:15.09 | tvm | lamah: you can set the font in /etc/console-tools/config |
| 08:15.27 | lamah | tvm: thanks :)) |
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| 08:19.40 | Dirkos | simonrvn seems like it cant connect anymore to the DB due some odd reason |
| 08:19.57 | Dirkos | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 08:19.58 | nutron | uhh i have a process i can't kill... odd... kill -9 didn't work and i need to reboot the machine (another process chewed up memory and didn't free it)... any suggestions other than pressing the reset button? |
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| 08:22.23 | Dirkos | i already tried to reset the password with mysql_safe and init-file but without succss |
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| 08:22.25 | gypsymauro | hello, someone uses open-iscsi on squeeze amd64 or has trie to do that? |
| 08:22.26 | simonrvn | Dirkos: you probably need to reset it |
| 08:22.48 | Dirkos | i did: mysqld_safe --init-file=/home/reset & |
| 08:23.13 | simonrvn | nutron: if it's Z, nope |
| 08:23.36 | s3phir0th115 | I wonder how much it'd take to get Squeeze going on a PS3 |
| 08:24.29 | s3phir0th115 | Probably better to wait for an updated bootloader though, since now the loaders that grant full hardware access need to load over the network, which isn't a good long term solution |
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| 08:24.39 | Dirkos | but still receiving an access denied |
| 08:24.59 | Dirkos | script looks like: UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('password') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| 08:26.29 | simonrvn | Dirkos: /msg dpkg forgot mysql root password |
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| 08:27.13 | nof0ld | hi |
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| 08:27.32 | nof0ld | I cant find the download link to debian sid/unstable. where can I get it? |
| 08:27.49 | ham5 | gtfo |
| 08:27.59 | Dirkos | simonrvn: thats what i did... the init-file script |
| 08:28.06 | richo | Hi, like a moron I upgraded a bunch of stuff to experimental a while ago. I'm wanting to downgrade it all to sid now. I realise it's dangerous, unsupported and a bad idea (tm) but is there an aptitude flag to say "Gief me this release" |
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| 08:28.09 | Dirkos | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html |
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| 08:29.22 | jordanm | s3phir0th115: work on the debain ps3 port has been dead for a while |
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| 08:29.53 | s3phir0th115 | Most of it now would be kernel patches I think |
| 08:30.02 | simonrvn | Dirkos: it's funny this sounds like the problem i had. |
| 08:30.17 | s3phir0th115 | Then just have a special repo for PS3 specific stuff, that'd probably do it. |
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| 08:31.31 | Dirkos | im at the shell in safe mode right now :) |
| 08:31.43 | jordanm | s3phir0th115: powerpc64 isn't an official supported arch |
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| 08:32.29 | simonrvn | wonders why he's having memory problems |
| 08:32.51 | s3phir0th115 | Yeah it is |
| 08:33.01 | s3phir0th115 | Right on the list, powerpc |
| 08:33.10 | simonrvn | ppc != ppc64 |
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| 08:33.57 | simonrvn | at least in terms of debian arches |
| 08:34.00 | simonrvn | ;p |
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| 08:34.45 | simonrvn | Dirkos: i ended up reiniting the mysql database |
| 08:35.03 | simonrvn | Dirkos: it was pretty much empty |
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| 08:35.13 | Dirkos | yeah seems like he cant find the root user lol |
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| 08:35.56 | simonrvn | the rest isn't a big deal. lesson: backups backups backups ;p |
| 08:36.23 | simonrvn | Dirkos: i mean 'mysql', not the whole of /var/lib/mysql |
| 08:37.02 | Dirkos | how can i list a select statement in the console? |
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| 08:37.31 | simonrvn | hm? list a select? |
| 08:37.47 | Dirkos | yeah well a select works ofcourse but with nromal formatting |
| 08:37.48 | Dirkos | haha |
| 08:38.16 | simonrvn | you mean the output format? |
| 08:38.20 | Dirkos | uhuh |
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| 08:38.52 | simonrvn | there's some setting you can set to do that (i think). i know the sqlite3 one :P |
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| 08:39.12 | Dirkos | yeah but there is also a param u can add at the query haha |
| 08:39.33 | Dirkos | ah \G |
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| 08:41.48 | Dirkos | is it correct that there are 2 root users in my mysql.user? |
| 08:41.51 | s3phir0th115 | hmm... Well, if they're backwards compatible, you could always just use the 32 bit ppc port as a base |
| 08:42.07 | Dirkos | 1 with "debian" as host and 1 with "127.0.0.1" |
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| 08:43.08 | simonrvn | Dirkos: there's a backup user |
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| 08:43.32 | Dirkos | but i still get a fucking access denied :S |
| 08:43.33 | Dirkos | wtf |
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| 08:49.32 | richo | :/ |
| 08:49.39 | richo | Language... |
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| 08:50.08 | little_owl1 | A bit rude question: When will the next debian be released? The year is enough ;-) I would like to know the length of release cycle .... |
| 08:50.25 | jelly-home | little_owl1: /msg dpkg release history |
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| 08:50.49 | little_owl1 | OK, thanks. |
| 08:51.08 | djszapi | can I also create a debian package file with with dpkg-deb in a way to include my _signfile into the package fex. ? |
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| 08:51.29 | jelly-home | past history is no indication of future performance, little_owl1 |
| 08:51.54 | simonrvn | little_owl1: uh, 3 days ago? |
| 08:52.04 | jelly-home | simonrvn: NEXT |
| 08:52.07 | jelly-home | !wwwr |
| 08:52.08 | dpkg | I don't know when Wheezy will release. Ask me about <wheezy pool> for contributed release date guesses. |
| 08:52.24 | jelly-home | that |
| 08:52.31 | simonrvn | wtf |
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| 08:52.53 | jelly-home | (he asked about release+1) |
| 08:52.56 | aLemmer | My sound doesn't work in Debian Squeeze. |
| 08:53.23 | Shadur | !doesn' work |
| 08:53.27 | homecable | lsmod |
| 08:53.27 | Shadur | !doesn't work |
| 08:53.28 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 08:53.28 | Florian_ | hello |
| 08:53.32 | homecable | see if mod is loaded |
| 08:53.41 | aLemmer | ... There's no audio for anything. |
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| 08:54.12 | Shadur | Launch a mixer, see what it says. Does it list any audio devices? What does dmesg have to say? |
| 08:54.22 | Florian_ | Are iiiha.com mail blocked (spam) on lists.debian ???? |
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| 08:54.57 | aLemmer | Shadur: three devices are listed, however none of them will allow me to listen to any audio. |
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| 08:56.27 | djszapi | or should I whether do my own C code to compress a debian package files with my own fex. gpg signature into a debian file ? |
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| 08:57.01 | djszapi | the question is more like that whether I can do it with dpkg-deb (or other tool) to add custom files into the debian package properly or does it require own compression util. |
| 08:57.03 | Shadur | aLemmer: "Won't allow" is still pretty vague. Are they muted? What happens when you try to play sound on one of them? |
| 08:57.12 | little_owl1 | OK, a different way. What is the current release policy? If possible, every third year a stable release? |
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| 08:57.24 | jelly-home | little_owl1: there is none. |
| 08:57.24 | Florian_ | Are iiiha.com mail blocked (spam) on lists.debian ???? |
| 08:58.03 | little_owl1 | OK, no release policy. ;-) Thanks. |
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| 08:59.27 | Shadur | little_owl1: "When it's ready" is pretty much it. |
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| 09:01.36 | aLemmer | Shadur: Well, any application that has sound will throw a random error at me. |
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| 09:03.05 | aLemmer | Shadur: I believe my sound card isn't supported off-the-bat. |
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| 09:03.46 | Shadur | I don't believe in "random" errors. What are they saying? |
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| 09:07.28 | Khalem | I don't believe in "random" errors... but the errors don't seem to care |
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| 09:08.33 | Shadur | Khalem: A "random error" only means that there's some condition you haven't taken into account yet is affecting the outcome. |
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| 09:08.45 | Khalem | True enough |
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| 09:09.34 | Iridos | ha... and you know the error half-happened and half not happened until you observe it! |
| 09:10.51 | weltall | it's known that the package site shows only sid packages? |
| 09:11.32 | Khalem | Shadur: If i show you http://pastebin.com/X6Lqnj3L what would your first reaction to those errors be? :P |
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| 09:13.49 | lxsameer | is it possible to force dhcpd to work on wlan0 interface only ? |
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| 09:14.13 | Iridos | sure... |
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| 09:14.32 | Iridos | as to "how", depends on how you configure it, I guess |
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| 09:14.46 | Iridos | just assign static IPs for the other interfaces |
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| 09:15.00 | lxsameer | Iridos: can you give me alink |
| 09:16.23 | ov3rmind | hello |
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| 09:20.59 | JyZyXEL | for how old PC's are -486 images for? |
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| 09:21.46 | sep | wild gess.. perhaps a 486 and newer :) |
| 09:21.51 | lxsameer | Iridos: how do you assign dhcpd to wlan0 ? |
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| 09:22.16 | sep | so not a 386.. 286, 8086 or 8088 etc |
| 09:22.45 | JyZyXEL | eh |
| 09:23.36 | teff | 486 is pre-pentium, isn't it? that was 90s |
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| 09:24.10 | JyZyXEL | no its pentium too |
| 09:24.19 | sep | pentium's are 586's |
| 09:24.24 | mazzanet | wee watching 4 boxes upgrade to deb squeeze |
| 09:24.51 | JyZyXEL | there are no -586 images anymore |
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| 09:25.13 | sep | JyZyXEL, 486 images are for 486 and newer |
| 09:25.22 | sep | would work on everything that is not a 386 or older |
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| 09:25.30 | aLemmer | So if I have snd_hda_intel, how about would I go configuring it so sound plays through it? |
| 09:25.45 | sep | but you'd get better performance from a 686 if you have a pentium 2 or newer |
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| 09:26.01 | sep | !686 |
| 09:26.01 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). You can also use a -686 kernel with the core2 chips for a 32 bit kernel (rather than the amd64 kernel). |
| 09:26.03 | JyZyXEL | shouldn't it work with 386 too |
| 09:26.16 | teff | 686 is pentium 2, 786 pent 3 ..? |
| 09:26.22 | OpenTokix | teff: no |
| 09:27.37 | sep | JyZyXEL, there was a 386 kernel before. but it was replaced with the 486 one. you can compile your own tho |
| 09:27.43 | teff | ah. ok. 486 is still 90s though;) |
| 09:27.53 | JyZyXEL | 486 should work with 386 shouldn't it |
| 09:28.01 | JyZyXEL | their both x86 still |
| 09:28.11 | OpenTokix | gives teff 386 DX 33 with a weitek |
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| 09:28.36 | JyZyXEL | it isn't even that long since intel stopped producing the 80386's |
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| 09:28.54 | OpenTokix | Embedded systems, I assume |
| 09:28.58 | JyZyXEL | yes |
| 09:28.59 | Iridos | lxsameer, how _do_ you configure your interfaces |
| 09:29.24 | lxsameer | Iridos: static ip |
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| 09:29.57 | monty2011 | 386DX-33 was hot! 386SX-25 - now that sucked |
| 09:30.24 | Iridos | no, I mean using what software... /config file |
| 09:30.26 | sep | lxsameer, look in /etc/default/dhcpd*something |
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| 09:31.17 | teff | well, ok, i surrender. last time i had a pentium2 on my desk was 5 years ago. last time people would consider it useful in a desktop pc was in the 90s*g* |
| 09:32.26 | Iridos | nothing wrong with the 90ies! |
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| 09:33.29 | sep | JyZyXEL, you can read this thread http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.devel.kernel/2004-10/msg00027.htm |
| 09:33.50 | teff | Iridos: that's not what I said! |
| 09:34.48 | sep | teff, i threw out my last 286, 386, 486, P1 and P2 and when i moved house, 2 years ago. 14 machines.... wife celebrated , I cried ;( |
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| 09:36.25 | teff | sep: haha. my pentiumII is actually still somewhere in a closet. in case i would need it for something. she doesn't know, though.. |
| 09:37.01 | teff | sep: sorry for your loss |
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| 09:37.17 | sep | i still have a 68000 1meg ram 20mb HD and a 68040 4meg ram 120 MB HD |
| 09:37.33 | Iridos | teff, skeleton in the closet... |
| 09:38.05 | teff | i removed the hd and used it as an external drive for a while.. |
| 09:40.30 | sep | hate throwing away working stuff, their only crime beeing old/obsolete and not uniqe enough for museum. |
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| 09:42.01 | Devastator | my old pIII 550mhz is company's router :D |
| 09:42.06 | Devastator | still kicking.. |
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| 09:43.24 | amoe | Debian sshd_config sets 'AcceptEnv LANG LC_*' by default, what's the use of this, as it should be set by some shell profile on the remote machine anyway? |
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| 09:43.33 | aLemmer | Hello, I'm trying to get my Nvidia Mcp51 sound card to play any sound whatsoever. Just installed Squeeze. |
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| 09:43.40 | cast | yo |
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| 09:44.37 | sep | also have a ND100, but that's too large to have in the house. so it dosn't count. and it's badly broken as well http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/ND-100 (with 16 terminals, harddrive, and tape streamer)m |
| 09:44.48 | sep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ND-560.jpeg image of a ND560 but the size is the same |
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| 09:46.38 | teff | ha. you guys make me feel young and normal;) |
| 09:46.42 | J-roen | Hi. Can someone explain or point me to an explanation of Debian package version numbers syntax? I'd like to know for example what "dfsg" and "1-1+lenny9" mean in "5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9". Thanks. |
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| 09:47.46 | g105b | how do you grant a user&group read/write permissions on a directory *and* subdirectories? |
| 09:47.52 | Devastator | pIII is not so old, so I can be considered young as well :D |
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| 09:48.15 | monty2011 | g105, use stick bit |
| 09:48.17 | simonrvn | if it still works, it's not that old |
| 09:48.23 | amoe | J-roen: http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2010/10/msg00047.html |
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| 09:48.33 | monty2011 | g105, that's sticky bit |
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| 09:49.08 | amoe | -1 means first Debian package released of this upstream version |
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| 09:49.42 | amoe | not sure about +lenny9, possibly for security updates |
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| 09:51.14 | monty2011 | g105b, and -R on your chmod to update recursively |
| 09:51.15 | sep | J-roen, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version can perhaps help a little ? |
| 09:51.29 | jelly-home | Devastator: 10 years is quite old for a cpu |
| 09:51.52 | sadsfg | I am having problem with my debian 6.0. On waking up after standby the network (eth0) doesn't work, The eth0 card is r8169 and this are some info about the hardware and configuration: http://pastebin.com/a6n0BwZ3, I have tried modprobe -r r8169; modprobe r8169 |
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| 09:53.21 | J-roen | amoe: Thanks |
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| 09:54.51 | J-roen | sep: Thanks for the link. Do you think I'm correct when I say that in "5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny9", the first "1" is the upstream version and the second "1" is the Debian version? |
| 09:54.55 | teff | simonrvn: I try not to work too much, am I getting old? |
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| 09:55.22 | g105b | monty2011: do I need to mark the dir as dirname/* to state all directories within, or will -R do that for me? |
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| 09:55.48 | amoe | J-roen: yes |
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| 09:56.06 | amoe | J-roen: though '1+lenny9' would be the full debian_revision |
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| 09:56.21 | Devastator | jelly-home ok, you are trying to call me an old man, i get it :P |
| 09:57.01 | J-roen | amoe: Okay, great. I'm still curious about what +lenny9 means. |
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| 09:57.39 | simonrvn | teff: heh |
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| 09:58.00 | yucatan | hello guys |
| 09:58.23 | yucatan | i have a samba share that auth on the domain |
| 09:58.36 | yucatan | on all the files and folders are ntfs premissions |
| 09:58.45 | yucatan | now we have a new domein with a new domein controller |
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| 09:58.49 | sep | i belive lenny9 is the security version |
| 09:58.56 | yucatan | but i cant set any ntfs premissions |
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| 09:59.03 | yucatan | when i do that i get access denied |
| 09:59.09 | yucatan | and i cant take ownership or anything |
| 09:59.21 | yucatan | how should i fix that |
| 09:59.33 | Pjom | i cant login with my mysql root user anymore after the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze. Already changed the root password while running in safe mode but without result |
| 09:59.39 | Pjom | anyone who knows what i can try? |
| 10:00.54 | J-roen | sep: So the difference between i.e. 2.2.9-10+lenny8 and 2.2.9-10+lenny9 indicates that the version is exactly the same, but that some Debian security patches have been applied? |
| 10:01.39 | monty2011 | g105b: eg. chmod -R g+rws dirname Should recursively grant rw to dirname and everything below for the group; the 's' sets the sticky bit so that any new files created in the directory tree inherit the same permissions |
| 10:02.10 | J-roen | amoe: Don't you think that "5.2.6.dfsg.1" is the complete upstream version number? |
| 10:02.26 | sep | J-roen, yes |
| 10:02.36 | yucatan | monty2011 are u talking to me or? |
| 10:03.09 | monty2011 | no, g105b |
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| 10:03.35 | yucatan | ok |
| 10:03.42 | yucatan | does soembody have any advice for me? |
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| 10:05.48 | mazzanet | hrmph |
| 10:06.04 | mazzanet | after upgrading 4 boxes to squeeze, only one has issues |
| 10:06.09 | mazzanet | and it's with mysql |
| 10:07.46 | Pjom | yeah mine too :( |
| 10:07.53 | Pjom | cant find the solution though |
| 10:07.54 | Iridos | judd, kernels |
| 10:07.56 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.37-trunk-686 (2.6.37-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); wheezy: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-30); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-30~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-26lenny2) |
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| 10:08.18 | J-roen | What does the epoch in the version number stand for? I guessed it has to be the Debian version number (e.g. "5" for Lenny), but what about "3.1" for Sarge? The epoch is an unsigned integer. Is in this case just "3" used? |
| 10:08.19 | mazzanet | Pjom: something about mysql.plugin? |
| 10:08.28 | mazzanet | and you can't run mysql_upgrade? |
| 10:08.56 | Pjom | yeps |
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| 10:09.02 | Pjom | but there is not mysql_upgrade on my server |
| 10:09.21 | mazzanet | oh, there is on mine |
| 10:09.42 | mazzanet | but it calls mysqlcheck, which can't run without the mysql server being started |
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| 10:10.30 | Pjom | well it runs at my place |
| 10:10.36 | Pjom | but i dont have the fucking binary |
| 10:10.39 | Pjom | how can i get it? |
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| 10:11.30 | mazzanet | weirdly, it's only this one box that has an issue with it |
| 10:11.30 | go^ | can anyone advice me about installing debian netinst with wlan connection and wpa ? |
| 10:11.39 | sep | J-roen, epock is 1: as the first number of the version. |
| 10:11.41 | mazzanet | the other 4 upgraded fine |
| 10:11.43 | J-roen | I am pretty sure now that the epoch is not the Debian version number. I read the policy again and I think I understand what this means: "provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older versions of a package, and also a package's previous version numbering schemes, to be left behind." I guess the epoch is rarely used then. |
| 10:11.58 | sep | J-roen, it's used when someone made a mistake usualy. |
| 10:12.10 | sep | J-roen, not often used. |
| 10:12.15 | Pjom | how can i get the mysql_upgrade? |
| 10:12.18 | J-roen | sep: Okay, thanks for your help. |
| 10:13.10 | Iridos | !tell Pjom -about apt-file |
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| 10:13.32 | Iridos | it's in mysql-server-5.1 |
| 10:13.58 | Pjom | yeah i have the latest version |
| 10:14.01 | Pjom | but still it is missing LOL |
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| 10:14.39 | mazzanet | mysql-server-5.1: /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade |
| 10:14.45 | mazzanet | reinstall the package? |
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| 10:15.02 | Pjom | than i will loose my current DB |
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| 10:15.37 | andy__ | help please |
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| 10:16.30 | Pjom | ah got it now but root cant login somehow :S |
| 10:16.38 | Pjom | its soo fucking strange |
| 10:16.43 | andy__ | i need to paste a VH configuration in order someone correct it for me |
| 10:17.50 | andy__ | i don't see the link here |
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| 10:18.16 | Pjom | Iridos: you got any experience with that? |
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| 10:18.55 | Iridos | with "fucking strange"? not on a regular basis |
| 10:18.59 | andy__ | please somebody help |
| 10:19.14 | petemc | andy__: pastie.org |
| 10:19.16 | Pjom | yeah well.. since the update my mysql root user cant login anymore |
| 10:19.17 | mazzanet | andy__: VH? |
| 10:19.26 | andy__ | yes |
| 10:19.31 | Pjom | i already logged in @ safe mode and change the password |
| 10:19.35 | Pjom | but without success |
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| 10:19.48 | mazzanet | ooh i got mysqld to start |
| 10:19.49 | andy__ | i tried to enter in a apache channel and i could not do that |
| 10:19.52 | Pjom | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 10:19.58 | mazzanet | deprecated config options in my.cnf |
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| 10:21.01 | Pjom | mazzanet: that are only warnings, not errors |
| 10:21.16 | mazzanet | mine were errors |
| 10:21.25 | Pjom | like? |
| 10:21.53 | Asif | hi . wahat are system requirements for debian 6 |
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| 10:22.27 | mazzanet | [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-bdb' |
| 10:22.53 | mazzanet | removed skip-bdb line from my.cnf and all is fine |
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| 10:23.01 | AlexC_ | g'morning |
| 10:23.11 | petemc | Asif: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 10:23.11 | Pjom | ah k well i have no errors |
| 10:23.12 | AlexC_ | how can I disable an init script from starting automagically upon start up? |
| 10:23.16 | Pjom | but still cant connect |
| 10:23.31 | petemc | Asif: if using a different arch then consult the appropriate install guide |
| 10:23.48 | andy__ | http://pastie.org/1544293 |
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| 10:23.55 | mazzanet | Pjom: see if mysqld is running, if it isn't check syslog |
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| 10:25.23 | Pjom | yes mysqld is running and i can login in safe mode |
| 10:25.31 | Pjom | i change my password to 'password' |
| 10:25.46 | andy__ | mazzanet i already pasted the link here |
| 10:26.54 | andy__ | im accessing the sever by ssh |
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| 10:29.16 | mazzanet | andy__: that's somewhat normal? |
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| 10:29.44 | andy__ | mazzanet: what do you mean? |
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| 10:30.04 | petemc | andy__: fixing your /etc/hosts might be a start |
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| 10:30.16 | newwer | I have installed debian 6 but my touchpad doesn;t work as expected |
| 10:30.22 | newwer | I can only move the mouse pointer |
| 10:30.35 | newwer | I am not able to select or scroll using the touchpad |
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| 10:31.06 | andy__ | in etc/hosts i put 127.0.0.1 mydomain.com |
| 10:31.14 | newwer | nevermind |
| 10:31.15 | newwer | solved |
| 10:31.26 | newwer | Another problem |
| 10:31.29 | monty2011 | newwer: that's why god created the CLI ;-) |
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| 10:32.20 | newwer | monty2011: When I boot into debian, before login the screen is shown quite disturbed |
| 10:33.09 | newwer | monty2011: Like some disturbance is there. It is similar to a old days television screens without any connection |
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| 10:34.52 | andy__ | http://pastie.org/1544293 |
| 10:35.35 | monty2011 | newwer: sounds like a problem with screen resolution or refresh rate |
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| 10:37.57 | teff | newwer: my problem is the opposite: i can't turn off my touchpad any more;( |
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| 10:43.50 | Pjom | So whats next, i update the root password from mysql root in safe mode |
| 10:43.53 | Pjom | but still it cant connect :S |
| 10:44.35 | bluesceada | how can i get /lib/firmware/ti_3410.fw in debian ? :S |
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| 10:46.07 | streuner | dpkg, info firmware-linux-free |
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| 10:46.49 | streuner | bluesceada: it might be part of the package above |
| 10:46.54 | dpkg | firmware-linux-free: (Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel), section kernel, is optional. Version: 2.6.32-30 (sid), Packaged size: 142 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 10:47.01 | bluesceada | it isn't |
| 10:47.06 | streuner | well :-) |
| 10:47.14 | streuner | just google for it then :-) |
| 10:47.19 | bluesceada | i mean, i can get it from there http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=blob;f=ti_3410.fw;hb=HEAD |
| 10:47.39 | bluesceada | but it would be nicer if it would be in a debian package and always updated |
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| 10:49.41 | jelly | judd: file /lib/firmware/ti_3410.fw |
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| 10:49.44 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 10:49.47 | jelly | judd: file /lib/firmware/ti_3410.fw --release sid |
| 10:49.51 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 10:49.54 | jelly | hmph |
| 10:50.33 | g105b | when the root user enters this command: `chmod -R g+rws dirname` what group does it affect? |
| 10:50.55 | bluesceada | the aptosid people list it there below as non-free and coming from git http://aptosid.org/index.php?module=content&func=view&pid=5 |
| 10:51.00 | bluesceada | maybe it's just to new |
| 10:51.07 | Iridos | whatever group each file belongs to |
| 10:51.08 | bluesceada | even if it isnt really that new |
| 10:51.22 | jelly | bluesceada: it doesn't come with 2.6.32 kernel tree. |
| 10:51.31 | Pjom | anyone who has experience which such MySQL things? |
| 10:51.36 | mdeferran | greetings, is there a way to configure apt/preferences to priorize lenny over squeeze ? I tried with n=lenny Pin-Priority:700 and n=squeeze Pin-Priority:650 with no luck |
| 10:51.44 | bluesceada | jelly: ok, right |
| 10:52.54 | bluesceada | then i just get it from git, i also have a more recent kernel built for myself anyway because of newer hardware |
| 10:52.56 | jelly | mdeferran: apt_preferences are tricky. |
| 10:53.07 | mdeferran | jelly: /agree |
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| 10:53.19 | jelly | mdeferran: note than the default release is implicitely pinned to 990 |
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| 10:53.21 | bluesceada | i would try priorities around 990 and 101 |
| 10:53.29 | jelly | mdeferran: /msg dpkg preferences |
| 10:53.33 | bluesceada | 101 for squeeze then and 990 for lenny |
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| 10:54.09 | jelly | mdeferran: don't mix stable or oldstable with anything unless you know exactly what and why you're doing it |
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| 10:54.50 | mdeferran | jelly: yes I know |
| 10:55.01 | avis | hello all. how do i set the default kernel image for grub in debian 6.0 ? |
| 10:55.08 | jelly | hm. |
| 10:55.20 | jelly | mdeferran: sorry, the factoid seem to be /msg dpkg apt_preferences |
| 10:55.37 | andy__ | i facing troubles with a Virtual Host definition |
| 10:55.43 | mdeferran | bluesceada: apt-cache policy still report the same priority for both source : 990 |
| 10:56.01 | andy__ | http://pastie.org/1544293h |
| 10:56.11 | bluesceada | maybe try with v=6.0 and v=5.0 instead of names |
| 10:56.16 | andy__ | http://pastie.org/1544293 |
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| 10:57.15 | teff | avis: grub2? |
| 10:57.39 | avis | not sure. uses a grub.cfg |
| 10:57.54 | avis | fix it. just nuked the irrelevant kernels |
| 10:58.22 | teff | otherwise https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring%20GRUB%202 |
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| 10:58.33 | avis | thank you |
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| 10:59.02 | avis | does debian use apparmor and if so, can it sometimes cause problems ? |
| 10:59.09 | jelly | avis: it doesn't |
| 10:59.19 | jelly | problem solved <g> |
| 10:59.31 | avis | does it use selinux ? |
| 10:59.47 | jelly | not by default; there are no well maintained policies |
| 11:00.07 | avis | np |
| 11:00.32 | yucatan | can i reset the ntfs premissions of all files and folders in a samba share? |
| 11:00.49 | yucatan | i have looked the owner of the files and folders is wheel within linux |
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| 11:02.04 | yucatan | ? |
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| 11:02.29 | JyZyXEL | how did you list packages and the repository their from? |
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| 11:02.57 | JyZyXEL | something to help find packages that are !squeeze |
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| 11:04.10 | c-anima | i had a little thought about the following. i do not need phpmyadmin because i can use the mysql console, but sometimes searching with phpmyadmin is nicer. but thats an additional security riks. one could only move the phpmyadmin files into the folder if needed. what do you think? |
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| 11:07.00 | themill | JyZyXEL: /msg dpkg which repo; if you're looking for lenny packages /msg dpkg obsolete; if you're looking for sid package /msg dpkg not available |
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| 11:08.12 | aguitel | when i start synaptic ,first open keyring windows and then open windows to ask root password ,why this ? |
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| 11:08.44 | rafall | hi |
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| 11:09.11 | avis | is there a "full gnome" metapackage for debian 6.0 ? |
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| 11:09.49 | rafall | I have a question - I am building package, and I want to use Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, but I would like also to set more relaxed dependency for one package - just to exists without checking version. How can I achieve it? |
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| 11:10.01 | aguitel | avis, aptiitude install gnome |
| 11:10.09 | JyZyXEL | the deborphan thing is all weird |
| 11:10.33 | JyZyXEL | it says packages are orphaned that simply cannot be |
| 11:10.47 | JyZyXEL | like mc, smartmontools, time, diff |
| 11:11.11 | JyZyXEL | i just did upgrade and dist-upgrade from squeeze repo, how the hell can it say those packages are from lenny |
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| 11:16.04 | themill | JyZyXEL: it's not saying that. |
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| 11:16.23 | JyZyXEL | hows so |
| 11:16.53 | aguitel | when i start synaptic ,first open keyring windows and then open windows to ask root password ,why this ? |
| 11:17.30 | themill | JyZyXEL: well... let's have another go. In what way is it saying they are packages from lenny? |
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| 11:18.45 | trupheenix | how would i add a build dependancy for a debian package to the debian control file? |
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| 11:19.05 | JyZyXEL | somethings wrong with the packages.debian.org |
| 11:19.15 | JyZyXEL | its only showing sid packages |
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| 11:19.38 | themill | JyZyXEL: known and being worked on |
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| 11:19.59 | avis | is debian based out of germany ? |
| 11:20.10 | JyZyXEL | it made me very confused |
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| 11:20.29 | JyZyXEL | the page should have a huge flashing red text saying its broken |
| 11:21.12 | rozie | JyZyXEL: did you report bugreport? |
| 11:21.35 | JyZyXEL | bugreport of the website? |
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| 11:21.55 | rozie | ;) |
| 11:22.08 | rozie | JyZyXEL: how they will know that smth is broken? |
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| 11:22.41 | JyZyXEL | i wouldn't know how to report a broken website |
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| 11:40.50 | jargon- | trying to replicate ldap with a ubuntu8.04 provider server using slapd 2.4.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 and a client server using 2.4.23-7 on debian squeeze. is this even possible? |
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| 11:52.06 | fishsponge_ | hey people... i'm having trouble finding out on the HCLs out there whether i'll be OK with latest 64-bit stable on a Dell Optiplex 980 with nVidia Quadro FX380 gfx card and an Intel Core i7-870 CPU... can anyone help? |
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| 11:54.10 | siyb | hi, i need to work around some issues related to suspend2ram (unload modules before s2r, load modules after s2r), what is the best way to do that? |
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| 11:55.50 | g105b | can someone tell me ... chmod -R g+rws dirname ... what group does this apply to? (I'm running it on root user) |
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| 11:57.03 | Cozminsky | g105b: the group that the directory is set to |
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| 11:59.43 | g105b | CompWizrd: ok, that makes sense. So I need to first add a directory to a group. Can you guide me? |
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| 12:01.18 | fishsponge_ | can anyone tell me if debian will work on my hardware, as above?? |
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| 12:02.01 | sekon | fishsponge_: you can test it out ?? |
| 12:02.37 | jelly | !hcl |
| 12:02.38 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists for Linux include http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/ , http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/lists/hardware_linux.html and http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ . Also ask me about <driver locator>, <judd-hardware>. |
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| 12:03.04 | fishsponge_ | sekon, I haven't bought the PC yet - i can only buy it if i know it's going to work... |
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| 12:03.30 | g105b | I already have a group with users in ... can I add a new directory to that group? |
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| 12:03.50 | jelly | fishsponge_: in terms of practicality, a reasonable thing to do might be to google the machine model together with keywords: linux OR Debian, lspci |
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| 12:04.19 | fishsponge_ | jelly, tried that... having trouble |
| 12:04.24 | jelly | fishsponge_: lspci output is often found when people report on how their hardware works or fails to work with Linux |
| 12:04.43 | fishsponge_ | i haven't bought the machine yet - i can't unless i know it'll work, you see |
| 12:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libjs-mootools' returned no results. |
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| 12:06.07 | fishsponge_ | ok... so apparently, a Dell Optiplex 980 is certified for use with Ubuntu as long as you use Dell's Ubuntu image... that presumably means it's pretty well supported in linux, I would think... |
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| 12:07.05 | Maikl27 | is there any way to install actual finch from repo? |
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| 12:08.54 | themill | ,versions finch |
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| 12:08.55 | judd | Package finch on i386 -- lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2.7.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.7.3-1+squeeze1; sid: 2.7.9-2 |
| 12:08.57 | rafall | I have a question - I am building package, and I want to use Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, but I would like also to set more relaxed dependency for one package - just to exists without checking version. How can I achieve it? |
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| 12:09.36 | themill | rafall: (a) I can't imagine how that would be useful; (b) #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net will be a better place to ask |
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| 12:16.20 | zonkat | hello, i have an apache2 server. when trying to install a webmail client i get the error that a directory is not writable for the webserver ... how can i give the right to the webserver (it was started by root...) |
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| 12:17.34 | rafall | themill: #debian-mentors to: This channel is no longer officially on freenode and has been forwarded |
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| 12:17.51 | themill | rafall: "#debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net" |
| 12:18.06 | rafall | themill: i see, thanks |
| 12:18.07 | abrotman | zonkat: that doesn't sound right .. or is it sitll doing the config? |
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| 12:18.25 | zonkat | what do you mean "still doing the config"? |
| 12:18.29 | Bushmills | zonkat: you change directory permissions |
| 12:18.44 | zonkat | but the directory was created by root as well ...? |
| 12:18.48 | zonkat | so he owns it |
| 12:19.07 | Bushmills | web server doesn't run a root, even though started as root |
| 12:19.09 | themill | doesn't like giving apache permissions to create files |
| 12:19.14 | zonkat | is there a difference between the right of the user who started the server and the server itself? |
| 12:19.17 | zonkat | ahh |
| 12:19.23 | dorp | is it optional to remove services from "sysv-rc-conf --list"? its manual didn't show such a cli parameter |
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| 12:19.28 | zonkat | ok... what does it start as? |
| 12:19.44 | Bushmills | as instructed in its configuration |
| 12:19.54 | zonkat | themill its just one directory for the log files |
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| 12:20.21 | themill | zonkat: that's not so bad then. The silly CMSs that come with php install scripts scare me. |
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| 12:22.47 | abrotman | zonkat: which webmail is this? |
| 12:22.59 | zonkat | roundcube |
| 12:23.09 | zonkat | ${APACHE_RUN_USER} ? |
| 12:23.29 | zonkat | username is apache_run_user?? |
| 12:23.43 | themill | doesn't the roundcube package set itself up properly for you? |
| 12:23.43 | Cozminsky | it's an environment variable |
| 12:23.55 | abrotman | zonkat: it wants you to allow it to write to the config directory .. but just temporarily |
| 12:24.32 | zonkat | no i placed the configs myself |
| 12:25.02 | zonkat | he wants to be able to write into /log/ and /temp/ |
| 12:25.14 | abrotman | change those dirs, they're int eh config |
| 12:25.49 | zonkat | hurray got it :) |
| 12:25.53 | zonkat | thanks guys! |
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| 12:32.56 | Sevet | hi everyone. i have a server in a data centre 500 miles away with no remote console. i've messed up a modification to /etc/network/interfaces. it should be configured to allow network booting, and i have another server on the same network with isc-dhcp-server and tftpd-ha. does anyone know of a way to boot up a linux install with a ssh server installed? then i'd be able to login and fix the |
| 12:32.56 | Sevet | interfaces file. |
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| 12:41.54 | SPF | Sevet: I think you can find plenty of examples on google |
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| 12:45.05 | stockholm | Sevet: there is the FAI framework that you could use. it creates a nfsroot and allows to boot the other server into a systemmaintainance mode |
| 12:45.32 | stockholm | Sevet: do you know the systems mac, btw? |
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| 12:46.04 | Sevet | no, i'll be using a dynamic pool |
| 12:46.14 | Sevet | but i should see it in the dhcp logs when it boots |
| 12:46.22 | Sevet | thanks, i'll go and look at fai |
| 12:46.48 | Sevet | i don't want to reinstall it btw, get get a sort of live-cd running with a ssh server |
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| 12:48.06 | wsxws | hi all |
| 12:48.35 | wsxws | how to alter /var/log/dmesg path ? |
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| 12:52.54 | capri | hey |
| 12:53.10 | capri | is it possible to use debian as a fibre channel target server? |
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| 12:53.33 | Sevet | hmmm, moot point i think - doesn't look like it's trying to network boot after all :/ |
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| 12:56.52 | Rienzilla | Hmm, how do I find what module is used to drive my raidcontroller? |
| 12:58.41 | jelly | Rienzilla: figure out its pci-id (lspci -nn will help), then ask the bot: /msg judd pciid 103c:323a |
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| 12:59.34 | fahmad | justin: there ? |
| 12:59.52 | Rienzilla | awesome jelly, thanks |
| 13:00.03 | themill | Rienzilla: or lspci -k |
| 13:01.14 | fahmad | http://paste.ubuntu.com/564960/ |
| 13:01.22 | fahmad | can some one tell me why eth1 is not coming in br0:1 ? |
| 13:02.05 | OpenTokix | fahmad: I doubt you need bridge_ports in the :1 spec. |
| 13:02.22 | jelly | fahmad: put bridge ports only into the real device. aliases ( :1) don't need it |
| 13:03.14 | fahmad | ok |
| 13:03.21 | fahmad | ok |
| 13:03.50 | jelly | fahmad: aliases are just a convenient way to define more than one address |
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| 13:04.30 | capri | capri>is it possible to use debian as a fibre channel target server? |
| 13:05.20 | wsxws | how to alter /var/log/dmesg path ? |
| 13:05.32 | abrotman | why would you want to? |
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| 13:06.39 | wsxws | i knwe that this question would come |
| 13:06.58 | wsxws | because i manged to change all other pathes except thatone |
| 13:07.09 | wsxws | and using dynamic links is odd |
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| 13:07.35 | capri | could anybody help me? |
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| 13:08.22 | sickn3ss | can someone please give me the official squeeze repos please ? |
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| 13:09.30 | themill | dpkg: tell sickn3ss about make squeeze sources.list |
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| 13:10.02 | sickn3ss | thanks themill |
| 13:10.11 | Sevet | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 13:11.54 | xk123 | china ? |
| 13:12.09 | capri | is it possible to use ut as a fibre channel target as well or would it be much easier to use 10G ethernet? |
| 13:12.23 | SPF | !cn |
| 13:12.23 | dpkg | it has been said that cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 13:13.01 | g0rd0n | how do i schedule fsck to run on next boot? |
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| 13:13.13 | xk123 | æä¸å½äººä¹ï¼ |
| 13:13.24 | xk123 | èå¤å¥½ï¼ |
| 13:13.35 | Makuew-- | Hello, I am trying to run a .bin script but it gives me file not found? |
| 13:13.35 | SPF | xk123: please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh |
| 13:14.37 | g0rd0n | ok nvm |
| 13:15.10 | abrotman | Makuew--: yu're probably on amd64 and it's probably i386 |
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| 13:16.06 | jelly | dpkg, tell g0rd0n about forcefsck |
| 13:16.19 | capri | are you ignoring my questions or could nobody help me? |
| 13:16.54 | torgrimt | capri: those things you can find in google... |
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| 13:17.32 | sep | capri,i have no personal experience, but i think the key question is are there target drivers for your fc hba's in linux ? and you need the tgt package |
| 13:17.49 | jelly | capri: fc target support isn't in the main kernel yet. Investigate SCST |
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| 13:18.45 | jelly | oh right, stgt is the older effort |
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| 13:19.28 | jelly | I'm not sure Debian carries the target firmware where custom firmware is needed |
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| 13:19.52 | wsxws | how to alter /var/log/dmesg path ? <- any suggestion anyone ? |
| 13:20.24 | Sevet | wsxws: why would you want to? |
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| 13:20.42 | Sevet | it's hardcoded into /etc/init.d/bootlogs |
| 13:20.43 | wsxws | because i want ti know how it works |
| 13:20.53 | Sevet | it just dumps the output of dmesg there on bootup |
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| 13:21.55 | wsxws | thnaks a lot, thats what i was locking for |
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| 13:24.53 | sicksadworld | hello |
| 13:25.13 | capri | ok thanks |
| 13:25.26 | capri | so it would be much easier and cheaper to use 10g ethernet |
| 13:25.29 | wsxws | Sevet what is utmp for and where to find its settings ? |
| 13:25.48 | sicksadworld | debian amd64 squeeze, X launch, but no mouse... :/ with or without xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:25.53 | aLemmer | Can someone help me get sound to work with anything in Debian Squeeze? My sound card is an Nvidia MCP51, which seems to bring woes to Debian users. |
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| 13:26.11 | sicksadworld | log xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/cQVt2iGc |
| 13:26.33 | sicksadworld | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.40 | sicksadworld | if someone can help |
| 13:26.51 | sicksadworld | even my old xorg.conf from lenny is useless :/ |
| 13:26.56 | sysadmin_freak | hi everybody |
| 13:26.59 | delby | hi. is there a problem with the packages searh on the debian website? it is only finding sid. |
| 13:27.14 | delby | search* |
| 13:27.24 | phytovor | aLemmer: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 13:28.22 | rozie | delby: you're second person on IRC who asks about it |
| 13:28.37 | teago | sicksadworld: lsmod | grep -i mouse |
| 13:28.41 | rozie | and third today who ask this question |
| 13:28.55 | rozie | delby: have you tried to report a bug on the web page? |
| 13:29.29 | sicksadworld | teago: psmouse 44657 0 |
| 13:29.29 | delby | rozie: will do |
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| 13:31.53 | teago | sicksadworld: generate a new xorg.conf, killall X and GDM , try: sudo X -configure |
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| 13:32.28 | adb | delby, known issue , ppl work on it |
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| 13:32.56 | sicksadworld | teago: i've try it already...but let give it another chance... brb |
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| 13:33.17 | delby | adb: thanks. will not report. |
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| 13:34.30 | teago | sicksadworld: your mouse works with other O.S ? |
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| 13:35.07 | abrotman | sicksadworld: did you try moving your xorg.conf aside completely? |
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| 13:36.28 | sicksadworld | teago: yes, already try |
| 13:36.57 | sicksadworld | abrotman: yes also, i've juste re do an X -configure and put the new xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ |
| 13:37.04 | abrotman | uhm .. |
| 13:37.26 | sicksadworld | teago abrotman X launch, my window manager work, i got keyboard, but the mouse dont mouve the pointer |
| 13:37.26 | abrotman | *completely* .. Xorg doesn't require an xorg.conf anymore .. just remove the file completely |
| 13:37.49 | sicksadworld | s/mouve/move |
| 13:38.30 | teago | sicksadworld: try : sudo more /dev/input/mice , move mouse and see the output, this check if mouse works |
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| 13:39.06 | sicksadworld | the Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" should be the problem |
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| 13:39.56 | sicksadworld | teago: nothing append, no feedback from /dev/input/mice :/ |
| 13:39.59 | abrotman | that shold be fine |
| 13:40.19 | avis | i'm having problems with sound. i installed gnome through crunchbang and removed the crunchbang repo. it was based on debian 6.0 amd64. i would like to know how to get the flashplayer installer to show up in synaptic and how to enable any of my sound cards (2) the one that is preferred c-media is no longer working i have tried using alsamixer. |
| 13:40.21 | sicksadworld | i paste the new log |
| 13:40.28 | abrotman | sicksadworld: do you have gmp also working? |
| 13:40.36 | abrotman | gpm |
| 13:40.53 | sicksadworld | i dont use gpm |
| 13:41.07 | abrotman | sicksadworld: dmesg | grep mouse? |
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| 13:41.10 | abrotman | grep -i |
| 13:41.52 | teago | sicksadworld: try: sudo more /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i mouse |
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| 13:42.06 | sicksadworld | abrotman: mice : PS/2 mouse device common for all mice |
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| 13:42.32 | joe6 | when I ssh to a different machine and change my window tiling, the gnome-terminal is not recognizing the change. For example, I have 2 gnome-terminals open, I ssh to another machine from one, and then close the other gnome terminal, the display of the ssh terminal though occupies the full window, the text-width is truncated to the previous size. |
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| 13:42.35 | abrotman | sicksadworld: okay .. `mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.noworkie` .. then restart the computer, see if X works |
| 13:42.45 | teago | sicksadworld: or sudo dmesg | grep mouse |
| 13:42.56 | woodrag | Is it possible to virtualise an existing debian installation without reinstalling the OS? |
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| 13:43.16 | joe6 | i asked this questing in #xmonad and they seem to think that it could be a gnome issue and the #gnome irc is basically dead. |
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| 13:43.17 | abrotman | woodrag: probably depends on your VM software .. google would probably be more help |
| 13:43.32 | joe6 | I am not sure if this is good forum to ask this question. |
| 13:43.32 | sicksadworld | teago: nothing on /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i mouse |
| 13:43.42 | sicksadworld | abrotman: i try that right now brb |
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| 13:44.09 | sicksadworld | teago: dmesg | grep mouse = |
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| 13:44.17 | sicksadworld | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.32 | sicksadworld | i move the xorg.conf file |
| 13:44.40 | home-alone | hi . can my Pentium 3 1Ghz with 256 ram run debian 6 with gnome |
| 13:45.01 | abrotman | yes, but probably slowly |
| 13:45.05 | OpenTokix | home-alone: Can, yes, will it be a awesome snappy experience, no |
| 13:45.19 | abrotman | home-alone: you might want to try a smaller WM like LXDE |
| 13:45.32 | joe6 | home-alone: i run 600Mhz with 512 MB ram. it is doable |
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| 13:45.40 | joe6 | and use xmonad as the wm on gdm |
| 13:45.42 | sickn3ss | is there an issue with update-rc.d in debian ? |
| 13:45.46 | abrotman | home-alone: FWIW, you can probably put more RAM in it |
| 13:45.51 | abrotman | sickn3ss: such as? |
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| 13:46.18 | home-alone | i dont intend to use bloated apps . what swap should i creat as I have 256 ram |
| 13:46.22 | sickn3ss | abrotman, I get this when trying to enable cups for example |
| 13:46.22 | teago | sicksadworld: I think the drive of mouse is missing... |
| 13:46.22 | sickn3ss | update-rc.d: warning: cups start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5) |
| 13:46.22 | joe6 | is there something better than gnome-terminal. It is a resource hog. Any suggestions, please? |
| 13:46.31 | sickn3ss | and it's the same for every service |
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| 13:46.33 | abrotman | !lsb |
| 13:46.33 | dpkg | Linux Standard Base, a set of guidelines which all linux distributions should follow to ensure compatability between them. http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb . See also <lsb tags>. |
| 13:46.40 | abrotman | !tell sickn3ss about lsb tags |
| 13:46.41 | OpenTokix | joe6: xterm? |
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| 13:46.51 | abrotman | sickn3ss: soundsl ike yopu're mixing versions of Debian |
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| 13:47.10 | joe6 | OpenTokix: xterm is too old. need something better, just got out of xterm to gnome-terminal |
| 13:47.12 | sickn3ss | abrotman, O_o no I'm not I just installed it. |
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| 13:47.24 | fosstux | Hi! Currently I'm using Debian 5 testing and I'd like to update to Debian 6 testing. What is the recommended way to do this? |
| 13:47.27 | OpenTokix | joe6: ok, get more resources then =) |
| 13:47.29 | abrotman | sickn3ss: and where did you get CUPS? |
| 13:47.36 | abrotman | !tell fosstux about lenny->squeeze |
| 13:47.36 | sickn3ss | abrotman, from my netinst |
| 13:47.38 | joe6 | any suggestions on my issue, please? about resizing windows not resizing output when using ssh? |
| 13:47.51 | sicksadworld | abrotman teago ok, even without any xorg.conf , the same, X go on, window manager ok, keyboard ok, but...mouse dont react |
| 13:47.51 | abrotman | sickn3ss: put /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 13:48.01 | joe6 | OpenTokix: have you used rxvt? |
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| 13:48.38 | sickn3ss | abrotman, here: http://pastebin.com/XHhTDqYv |
| 13:48.41 | joe6 | sicksadworld: you do not need xorg.conf anymore. Aren't the files /etc/default now. |
| 13:48.43 | sickn3ss | for the repos from here aswell |
| 13:48.45 | OpenTokix | joe6: Once of twice, I am very happy with my gnome-term |
| 13:48.55 | joe6 | oh, ok. |
| 13:48.55 | sicksadworld | abrotman teago : http://pastebin.com/JepnUxAg |
| 13:48.57 | home-alone | how much swap partition I need to run debian 6 . I have 256 ram with pentium III 1mghz |
| 13:48.58 | fosstux | abrotman: no - I'm debian 5 testing - aka now squeeze - I'd like to update to wheezy (squeeze testing) |
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| 13:49.02 | abrotman | sickn3ss: and you just did `aptitude install cups' ? |
| 13:49.16 | sickn3ss | abrotman, i selected it to be installed from my netinst |
| 13:49.23 | joe6 | OpenTokix: btw, if you resize your terminal when you have ssh open, does the ssh output resize? |
| 13:49.31 | sickn3ss | I installed debian and I did update-rc.d -f cups remove |
| 13:49.32 | abrotman | fosstux: debian 5 is not testing, squeeze is Debian 6.0.0 .. squeeze is also not testing .. squeeze is stable |
| 13:49.34 | joe6 | OpenTokix: new output, I mean. |
| 13:49.41 | OpenTokix | joe6: what do you mean? Like bigger text or more text? |
| 13:49.42 | sickn3ss | and now I'm trying to reenable it to see if it works |
| 13:49.43 | abrotman | home-alone: 512MB or so .. |
| 13:50.00 | fosstux | abrotman: I KNOW. |
| 13:50.17 | abrotman | no, you don'ty |
| 13:50.21 | joe6 | no, the line length. When I have a small terminal window and use ssh and maximise the terminal, it does not change the line size. |
| 13:50.32 | fosstux | abrotman: I'd like to upgrade to wheezy if possiblr |
| 13:50.34 | themill | fosstux: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy; it tells you everything you need to know. |
| 13:50.37 | OpenTokix | joe6: I have this in my .bashrc: shopt -s checkwinsize |
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| 13:50.49 | OpenTokix | joe6: And yes, ssh-lines gets longer |
| 13:50.52 | fosstux | themill: thx |
| 13:50.54 | joe6 | OpenTokix: cool, thanks. |
| 13:50.55 | OpenTokix | omg, did I just write that line... |
| 13:51.07 | home-alone | do I need to format my swap drive in some specific format like ext3 , fat etc |
| 13:51.14 | sickn3ss | so abrotman any idea about why this issue occurs ? |
| 13:51.24 | OpenTokix | home-alone: its a special partition type |
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| 13:51.32 | damasceno | If i configure Squid, and don't put nothing about cache in memory, just cache in H.D, squid use cache in memory automatic? |
| 13:51.50 | home-alone | whow to creat that special format type |
| 13:52.14 | OpenTokix | home-alone: cfdisk, and then you do swapon /dev/sdXY |
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| 13:52.23 | abrotman | sicksadworld: there's an option to your intel driver to disable the hw cursor .. try that |
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| 13:52.59 | newwer | which is the package manager for debian ? |
| 13:53.04 | Iridos | home-alone, mkswap |
| 13:53.23 | joe6 | newwer: apt-get |
| 13:53.33 | sicksadworld | abrotman: hmm ok i try that |
| 13:53.39 | newwer | joe6: I mean is there a GUI ? |
| 13:53.41 | themill | newwer: aptitude is preferred most of the time (apt-get for lenny->squeeze upgrades) |
| 13:54.13 | abrotman | is daring, used aptitude :) |
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| 13:54.49 | home-alone | can I make partition using windows . and select a 512 mb partition as swap as I will select other as root directory |
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| 13:54.55 | MaxFrames | hello |
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| 13:55.19 | sickn3ss | so can anyone recommend a fix to my update-rc.d problem ? |
| 13:55.31 | rozie | newwer: synaptic |
| 13:55.33 | abrotman | sickn3ss: how did you install cups? |
| 13:55.45 | MaxFrames | I am running debian 5 on a vmware guest machine; I've upgraded to debian 6 and now I have a problem booting it with the latest kernel (2.6.32-5-686) |
| 13:55.49 | joe6 | so, has anyone moved on to gdm3? any experiences? |
| 13:56.07 | MaxFrames | the error message is "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)" |
| 13:56.22 | MaxFrames | if I boot to the previous kernel, it works |
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| 13:56.32 | MaxFrames | what do you suggest= |
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| 13:56.44 | sickn3ss | abrotman, from my netinstall I just checked to install cups/apache |
| 13:56.45 | newwer | rozie: I don't see synaptic in here. I guess it should have been in System->Administration |
| 13:56.47 | abrotman | joe6: i have, but i don't do anything special with it |
| 13:57.03 | abrotman | sickn3ss: aptitude update; aptitude install cups? |
| 13:57.10 | newwer | rozie: but it is not there |
| 13:57.12 | rozie | newwer: no idea. I use wajig which is cli tool |
| 13:57.20 | sickn3ss | abrotman, from the GUI installation of the Debian netinstall cd |
| 13:57.29 | sickn3ss | you have there a step |
| 13:57.34 | sickn3ss | where you can select what packages you want |
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| 13:57.40 | sickn3ss | to be installed with your debian |
| 13:57.43 | sysadmin_freak | guys, Do any of you if debian-multimedia is still available for lenny? |
| 13:57.45 | themill | sickn3ss: it would help if you stuck the actual command and the entire output in a pastebin for us |
| 13:57.50 | themill | sysadmin_freak: no, removed :( |
| 13:58.00 | joe6 | abrotman: is it any quicker? do XKbOptions work? |
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| 13:58.35 | abrotman | joe6: don't do anythign special .. just login :) |
| 13:58.48 | sickn3ss | abrotman, themill http://pastebin.com/rFd2eKay |
| 13:58.54 | sysadmin_freak | themill, thanks. Do you know if there was some kind of announcement for that? I want to let my user on the LAN that the mirror wont be available anymore |
| 13:59.11 | sysadmin_freak | themill, I couldn't find anything. Any idea? |
| 13:59.19 | sicksadworld | teago abrotman : i've plug to test an usb mouse.... it's works... :/ |
| 13:59.20 | themill | sysadmin_freak: no, it just disappeared. There's a news item on the dmm website, that's all. |
| 13:59.27 | abrotman | sicksadworld: not totally surprised |
| 13:59.36 | sysadmin_freak | themill, thanks buddy |
| 13:59.39 | sicksadworld | abrotman: i am :) |
| 13:59.50 | sicksadworld | abrotman: why the hell it dont work in ps/2.... |
| 13:59.59 | themill | sickn3ss: I'm not sure what we're supposed to be seeing in that pastebin.... |
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| 14:00.17 | abrotman | sicksadworld: is 'psmouse' in /etc/modules ? |
| 14:00.39 | sickn3ss | themill, I issued and aptitude update && aptitude install cups |
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| 14:00.43 | sickn3ss | I already told you I selected cups to be installed during my HDD instalation process of Debian netinstall |
| 14:00.48 | sicksadworld | abrotman: yes, i've checked that after reading the faq of Xorg and the debian install |
| 14:00.54 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:00.54 | themill | sickn3ss: yes. And there's no error there.... |
| 14:01.13 | sickn3ss | themill, yea but when I try to update-rc.d cups default I get erro |
| 14:01.14 | sickn3ss | r |
| 14:01.36 | sicksadworld | abrotman: i would never ask here if i've not read all the help on debian/xorg and not found solution by myself i swear |
| 14:01.43 | sickn3ss | themill, root@evilbox:/home/sickness# update-rc.d cups defaults |
| 14:01.43 | sickn3ss | update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 14:01.43 | sickn3ss | update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) |
| 14:01.46 | themill | sicksadworld: why are you trying to do that? |
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| 14:01.59 | abrotman | sicksadworld: you never know .. just double checking |
| 14:02.13 | themill | err... sickn3ss: why are you trying to do that? |
| 14:02.14 | abrotman | sicksadworld: you may want to ask #debian-x on irc.oftc.net .. not sure how much response you'll get |
| 14:03.20 | sickn3ss | themill, because I removed it instead of another service and now I want to enable it back again. |
| 14:03.33 | newwer | Is there a system monitor tool in debian ? |
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| 14:03.49 | newwer | to monitor current processes and there memory utilization |
| 14:04.09 | sicksadworld | abrotman teago anyway, thanks for your time, i going to try this hw cursor option in intel driver for the ps/2 now, but at least i can browser the web with iceweasel, instead of lynx to find solution |
| 14:04.16 | sicksadworld | thank you again |
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| 14:04.58 | themill | sickn3ss: and has it now added the links back into /etc/rc?.d/ for you? |
| 14:06.05 | sickn3ss | themill, I have K01cups in rc1.d |
| 14:06.19 | themill | sounds fine |
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| 14:06.50 | sickn3ss | themill, ok so I should not mind that error message ? |
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| 14:07.18 | themill | sickn3ss: it's a warning not an error and if you've now got the links you need, then yes. |
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| 14:07.40 | sickn3ss | themill, ok thanks for the ehelp |
| 14:08.32 | Iridos | newwer, lots, just search for it |
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| 14:10.14 | newwer | Iridos: ok, I have just observed that my system has just started to heat up especially the RAM and CPU |
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| 14:10.51 | arturo393 | i had installed debian squeeze and network-manager applet is not working, should i have to configure something? |
| 14:11.14 | Iridos | you might e.g. try apt-cache search "system monitor" |
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| 14:11.40 | qwertyui | ciao |
| 14:11.56 | qwertyui | !list |
| 14:11.57 | dpkg | VATTENE VIA! |
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| 14:13.27 | BlackFate | hello, i run a lenny machine with 380MiB of ram. normal mem usage with all the servers i use is about 120-150 MiB. what will be the memory footprint if i upgrade to squeeze? my resources are too limited |
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| 14:18.03 | arturo3931 | my mistake ,i should read the readme instead. |
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| 14:19.40 | abrotman | BlackFate: probalby not too much more, but really depends on the services |
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| 14:28.48 | pfrog | why are debian packages named so funky |
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| 14:29.14 | pfrog | there's no openldap package for example, its like 10 different packages with different names that took me a little bit to hunt down |
| 14:29.30 | hilan | My PC is getting overheated since I have installed debian |
| 14:29.30 | hilan | 6 |
| 14:29.54 | OpenTokix | hilan: do you have acpi enabled? |
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| 14:30.23 | hilan | OpenTokix: I don't know :-( |
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| 14:31.40 | stew | pfrog: the openldap daemon is called slapd in debian becuase that's what openldap calls it |
| 14:31.54 | stew | pfrog: "apt-cache search openldap" should find it |
| 14:32.11 | stew | pfrog: if to find everything in debian providing an ldap server: "aptitude search '~Pldap-server" |
| 14:32.23 | hilan | OpenTokix: acpi gives this: Battery 0: Full, 100% |
| 14:32.25 | stew | err: aptitude search '~Pldap-server' |
| 14:32.50 | teff | hilan: acpi -e |
| 14:32.53 | hilan | OpenTokix: acpi -t gives: Thermal 0: ok, 0.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 26.8 degrees C |
| 14:33.16 | teff | hilan: that doesn't sound very warm;). |
| 14:33.34 | BlackFate | abrotman, my biggest fear is mysql mem |
| 14:33.38 | hilan | teff: I do't think that it detects my CPU ( 0 C ??? ) |
| 14:33.51 | teff | actually, it's interesting. i have the impression that my debian also doesn't find all temperature sensors there are.. |
| 14:33.57 | OpenTokix | hilan: IF its a laptop I would search laptop make and model and debian |
| 14:34.02 | pfrog | stew: just seems like a waste to seperate out the thing in to like 10 packages when these days a terabyte hard drive is like $40 |
| 14:34.14 | pfrog | I get that debian runs on tiny devices too though |
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| 14:34.40 | teff | hilan: but what does acpi say about the fan? |
| 14:34.40 | stew | yes, its significantly more expensive to put a terabyte drive into an embedded device |
| 14:34.56 | hilan | teff: its really hot when I touch the bottom of my laptop |
| 14:35.17 | justin | pfrog: 10 packages? |
| 14:35.26 | stew | pfrog: and tthen whenever we bundle everything into one package, we get people complaining as well. you can't please everyone |
| 14:35.34 | pfrog | stew: fair enough |
| 14:35.40 | stew | Binary: slapd, slapd-smbk5pwd, ldap-utils, libldap-2.4-2, libldap-2.4-2-dbg, libldap2-dev, slapd-dbg |
| 14:35.43 | stew | 7 |
| 14:35.55 | teff | hilan: acpitool -e |
| 14:35.57 | pfrog | to be fair I said "like" |
| 14:35.59 | justin | stew: most people won't need the 2 -dbg packages or the -dev package |
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| 14:36.30 | pfrog | who's most people? |
| 14:36.36 | stew | anyone not compilng things |
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| 14:36.52 | justin | people that are not debugging slapd or compiling code that uses ldap libraries? |
| 14:37.14 | justin | also, slapd-smbk5pwd is only needed if you are using samba and kerberos |
| 14:37.40 | justin | so most people just need to install slapd and ldap-utils, libldap-2.4-2 is probably already installed |
| 14:37.55 | pfrog | I guess it'd be nice to have a openldap metapackage or something then |
| 14:37.57 | stew | people would certainly complain if any program compiled against ldap libs to provide possible ldap support also pulled in an ldap server |
| 14:38.01 | pfrog | that installs those three things |
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| 14:38.11 | justin | pfrog: that package is 'slapd' |
| 14:38.19 | Lenhix | Hello. How can I know which version of rsync was included in Etch? |
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| 14:38.31 | stew | pfrog: slapd pulls in the ldap libraries and ldap-utils, what else would you install with the metapackage? |
| 14:38.34 | pfrog | slapd doesn't install ldap-utils, and it took me awhile to figure out where the hell slapadd went |
| 14:38.35 | justin | Lenhix: packages.debian.org/rsync |
| 14:38.54 | pfrog | at least when I just did it yesterday it didn't install ldap-utils |
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| 14:39.09 | stew | oh, it Replaces and Suggests ldap-utils now |
| 14:39.12 | masterkorp | hello, my gnome is acting strange, the bar in the front just magically disapears when mose the mouse onto her |
| 14:39.16 | Lenhix | thx justin |
| 14:39.20 | masterkorp | any idea ? |
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| 14:39.34 | Lenhix | justin: page is down |
| 14:39.41 | Lenhix | justin: well, not "down" |
| 14:39.47 | Lenhix | in manteinance |
| 14:39.48 | justin | judd: versions rsync |
| 14:39.50 | judd | Package rsync on i386 -- lenny: 3.0.3-2; lenny-backports: 3.0.7-1~bpo50+1; sid: 3.0.7-2; squeeze: 3.0.7-2; wheezy: 3.0.7-2 |
| 14:39.57 | justin | judd: well, you're no help |
| 14:40.15 | justin | Lenhix: it's 2.6.9-2etch2 |
| 14:40.24 | Lenhix | thx again, justin |
| 14:40.59 | masterkorp | when i move the mouse to bottom bar the upper bar appears again, how is this possible ?? |
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| 14:43.07 | jelly | ,versions wine |
| 14:43.10 | judd | Package wine on i386 -- lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3.1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.0.1-3.1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 14:43.18 | jelly | blinks |
| 14:44.12 | hilan | teff: http://pastebin.com/4mRpsA8S |
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| 14:48.18 | Sevet | hi, why would having "post-up /sbin/ip -6 addr add 2001:470:1f09:144e::254/64 dev bond0" in /etc/network/interfaces stop the server appearing on the network after a reboot, but if it's run from command line everything works fine |
| 14:48.19 | Sevet | ? |
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| 14:49.06 | lrpcuba | hello everyone , i have a big trouble beforeinstall debian in proliant ml350 g3 bios 2001 3.02.01 slot 2 hp 642 64mb v1.30 any idea how can i install CCISS drivers |
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| 14:49.27 | ttiicc | for how long will we see security uppdates for Lenny? |
| 14:49.39 | abrotman | ttiicc: the plan is at least a year |
| 14:49.48 | ttiicc | ok nice to know, thanks |
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| 14:50.06 | teff | hilan: doesn't list the fan at all. i get something like " Fan Speed : 2828 RPM" |
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| 14:51.26 | lrpcuba | any advices please cc to my private and post also in here public , im stuck with that server |
| 14:51.37 | hilan | teff: yes, that's the problem. |
| 14:51.42 | masterkorp | i just deleted the whole .gconf and .gconfd and its good now |
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| 14:52.02 | lrpcuba | can anyone readme ? |
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| 14:52.55 | _KaszpiR_ | i can readme |
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| 14:54.42 | teff | hilan: there are packages cpufrequtils and fancontrol. are they installed? |
| 14:55.06 | teff | hilan: its a while ago i fiddled with acpi, so i am just guessing here. actually, i don't have fancontrol installed myself |
| 14:55.36 | hilan | teff: not installed yet, I am trying |
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| 14:56.55 | joe6 | i run firefox over ssh -Y connection. Is there something that I can do to improve ssh performance? |
| 14:57.02 | justin | joe6: ssh -CY ? |
| 14:57.14 | hilan | teff: I get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 14:58.06 | teff | hilan: are you su? is another aptitude / apt-get session open? |
| 14:58.17 | TuxPowers | Hey, I'm in the middle of testing rather or not we are going to upgrade from lenny to squeeze on some of our hosting XEN servers, but in the process of this Im heading a problem with Grub, since squeeze is changing from grub1 to grub2 I can't seam to figure out how to put out kernel with XEN hyper in the top of the grub file, is there a nice way to secure that the newest XEN kernel with... |
| 14:58.19 | TuxPowers | ...hyper is in the top of grub at all times also after a new upgrade.? |
| 14:58.36 | hilan | teff: yes, just closed another session but I guess it didn't kill the process |
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| 14:59.07 | joe6 | justin: -C for compression. |
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| 14:59.36 | joe6 | but the 2 machines are next to each other. so, i am not sure compression will help. |
| 14:59.46 | wsxws | is it possible to change the utmp-pathes ? (/var/log/wtmp ; /var/log/btmp ; /var/run/utmp ) |
| 15:00.00 | justin | TuxPowers: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
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| 15:02.15 | TuxPowers | justin: thanks, that worked :) |
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| 15:05.03 | henez | hi there |
| 15:05.11 | henez | I have created a .deb package |
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| 15:05.23 | henez | from my project |
| 15:05.33 | aguitel | i cannot make autologin in squeeze |
| 15:05.34 | henez | I have tried now to uninstalled with apt-get remove mypackage |
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| 15:06.11 | henez | but it says that the Package YYY is not installed, so not removed |
| 15:06.18 | henez | any ideas why? |
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| 15:06.27 | hilan | teff: http://pastebin.com/y2VFMQn2 |
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| 15:07.21 | wsxws | henez how did you create ist, how did you install ist and what does dkpg -r package say ? |
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| 15:08.19 | henez | wsxws, I have to do: dpkg -r myprogram? |
| 15:08.24 | henez | have I* |
| 15:08.31 | wsxws | yes |
| 15:08.35 | henez | I installed it with dpkg -i |
| 15:08.44 | wsxws | then try -r |
| 15:08.51 | henez | ok |
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| 15:09.21 | wsxws | did you create that package manually or by using checkinstall ? |
| 15:09.42 | henez | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mypackage which isn't installed. |
| 15:09.42 | dpkg | henez: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 15:09.57 | henez | dpkg, ?? |
| 15:09.57 | dpkg | henez: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:10.12 | henez | wsxws, manually |
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| 15:10.18 | justin | henez: you give it the package name, not the filename |
| 15:10.19 | henez | I didn't use checkinstall |
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| 15:10.46 | wsxws | u need to type dpkg -r name (not name.somthing.deb) |
| 15:10.57 | henez | I tried both |
| 15:11.21 | henez | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mypackage which isn't installed. |
| 15:11.21 | dpkg | You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, henez |
| 15:11.29 | wsxws | just as a hint, when u have a source to compile by hand and want to build a deb, simply use checkinstall |
| 15:11.43 | justin | henez: what makes you think it is installed? |
| 15:12.00 | henez | wsxws, I have to compile it in different architectures |
| 15:12.17 | henez | justin, because the programs are installed |
| 15:12.44 | justin | henez: it shows up in dpkg -l ? |
| 15:12.51 | henez | is there a way to see (by bash) the installed packages? |
| 15:13.21 | henez | justin, is the command that I was looking for? |
| 15:13.44 | abrotman | if you installed it with dpkg, you can uninstall with any other package manager |
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| 15:14.15 | henez | I m going to check the dpkg -l |
| 15:14.16 | henez | list |
| 15:14.21 | teff | hilan: and does it help? |
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| 15:14.36 | stew | henez: "dpkg -S /path/to/file" will tell you which package owns a file |
| 15:14.36 | hilan | teff: no :( |
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| 15:15.30 | henez | stew, very very very useful command.. I'm going to try it |
| 15:15.43 | wsxws | is it possible to change the utmp-pathes ? (/var/log/wtmp ; /var/log/btmp ; /var/run/utmp ) |
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| 15:16.17 | wsxws | before someone asks why, i just want to understand how it works and how it is set up |
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| 15:16.44 | teff | hilan: as i said, i can't really remember how it all works. i'd google debian, acpi and the laptop model. there is a lot of information hwo to configure the control |
| 15:16.47 | abrotman | wsxws: then get the source and start reading .. no need to bother us |
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| 15:17.37 | stew | wsxws: its defined in paths.h |
| 15:17.44 | wsxws | thanks stew |
| 15:17.50 | wald0 | what is the channel for the debian developers/maintainers ? I have a question about how to deal/manage patches |
| 15:18.00 | teff | hilan: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=34452 |
| 15:18.01 | stew | wald0: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org |
| 15:18.02 | wald0 | or... there's a doc about how to deal/manage patches ? |
| 15:18.57 | stew | wald0: there are many patch systems, they'd each have their own docs, though most people are moving to quilt since now dpkg-source knows how to deal with quilt internally |
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| 15:20.00 | aguitel | where is stored gdm3 configuration file? |
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| 15:20.27 | stew | aguitel: dpkg -L gdm3 | grep etc |
| 15:21.06 | henez | stew, it says: dpkg: /usr/local/bin/tracker not found. |
| 15:21.08 | capri | what is the best way to backup a partition every hour without lots of traffic? just like incrementel |
| 15:21.22 | henez | stew, but the file is there |
| 15:21.26 | stew | henez: so it wasn't installed from a debian package |
| 15:21.42 | henez | stew, damn it |
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| 15:21.46 | stew | henez: it was installed some other way, probably by running "make install" in a source tree |
| 15:21.54 | henez | stew, maybe I installed the old version with make install |
| 15:21.55 | stew | (a debian package wouldn't touch /usr/local anyway) |
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| 15:21.59 | lrpcuba | stew can you read me ? |
| 15:22.06 | henez | stew, you're right |
| 15:22.14 | stew | lrpcuba: yes |
| 15:22.30 | lrpcuba | stew did you read my last message about proliant server ? |
| 15:22.32 | henez | stew, so if I have deleted the old folder I'm in a mess, right? |
| 15:22.37 | wald0 | stew: the thing is that for example, I do "apt-get source icedove" and I found a tgz file (no source code opened) and a serie of patches... how it is supposed that i can edit/modify/manage these patches if the main source code is compressed ? |
| 15:23.03 | stew | lrpcuba: yes |
| 15:23.13 | wald0 | stew: maybe is needed to do a step or command after to apt-get source so that i have the source code editable ? |
| 15:23.18 | lrpcuba | stew do you have any clue about what should i do to make that raid disk viewable and installable |
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| 15:23.37 | stew | lrpcuba: i used some pre-release packages I got directly from hp, I don't remember exactly who at hp sent them to me or where they are |
| 15:23.44 | hilan | teff: thanks, hoping that solves the problem |
| 15:23.50 | lrpcuba | stew hp sayd we dont have support to debian system in ml350 3g |
| 15:24.07 | stew | lrpcuba: it should already be viewable and installable, just without management functions |
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| 15:24.14 | pfrog | is there some non-complicated way to get a freakin single-sign-on setup going on with linux, ldap+kerberos along with with lousy caching stuff seems like a real nightmare of possible failure |
| 15:24.19 | lrpcuba | stew ohh , well i ll have to make plan b , can you help me ? |
| 15:24.50 | asifnazir | How to check disc integrity of Debian 6 |
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| 15:25.33 | lrpcuba | stew may you download the drivers for me and send it or share for me , sf have me blocked |
| 15:25.39 | jelly | lrpcuba: ML350 G3 is old hardware. If you have a SmartArray in there, it's going to work. |
| 15:25.55 | stew | lrpcuba: the drvers are already in the kernel |
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| 15:26.04 | stew | lrpcuba: do you have arrays defined in the bios already? |
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| 15:26.19 | lrpcuba | jelly: nope , he does not , hp sayd we dont support |
| 15:26.24 | lrpcuba | stew yes i did all posibilits |
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| 15:26.39 | asifnazir | how to check disc integrity of Debian 6 |
| 15:26.45 | jelly | lrpcuba: yes, HP will not give support for that hardware. However Debian is going to work. |
| 15:26.48 | lrpcuba | i create arrays , delete , create delete , and debian beforeinstall sayd please hard driver drivers |
| 15:26.49 | stew | asifnazir: disc integrity or filesystem integrity? |
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| 15:27.28 | asifnazir | disc integrity in order to know the disc I have burnt is OK |
| 15:27.37 | TheKKK | c |
| 15:27.44 | Mad7Scientst | The Kernel that I got with Lenny seems to be fairly old |
| 15:28.01 | jelly | lrpcuba: which Debian release are you trying to install? Can you pastebin a screenshot of the defined array setup in the SmartArray BIOS? |
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| 15:28.04 | AlexC_ | morning |
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| 15:28.36 | henez | how is possible that using make uninstall, in the shell there is written: [RM ] /usr/local/lib/myfile.la |
| 15:28.37 | henez | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.38 | henez | ? |
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| 15:29.16 | henez | deleting the file manually is it possible? |
| 15:29.17 | stew | its really easy to write that without removing a file |
| 15:29.19 | lrpcuba | jelly bios 2001 3.02.1 slot 642 controller 64MB v1.30 1 Logical drive. |
| 15:29.29 | stew | henez: yes, you can delete files with rm |
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| 15:29.47 | henez | stew, ok thx stew |
| 15:29.47 | stew | lrpcuba: but you don't see the drive in debian? |
| 15:30.10 | meborc | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.10 | stew | lrpcuba: where are you looking? |
| 15:30.17 | lrpcuba | stew no , |
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| 15:30.42 | lrpcuba | stew the CCISS driver to make debian able to write in hard disk |
| 15:30.58 | jelly | Trying to install etch would fail, but lenny should work without any issues. I haven't tried squeeze installer, and definitely not on G3 hardware. |
| 15:31.01 | stew | lrpcuba: is the cciss module loaded? |
| 15:32.45 | lrpcuba | stew i think he do all that by defaul , but not "the module from ml350 3g" i think is because he dont have that in module driver list , i had read in hp and they guide you to load the drivers for other hp servers example ml350 6g |
| 15:32.47 | Mad7Scientst | I can switch from stable / testing / unstable with Lenny right |
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| 15:33.37 | stew | lrpcuba: can you check if the cciss module is loaded? |
| 15:34.00 | lrpcuba | stew how can i do that ? |
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| 15:34.19 | stew | lrpcuba: lsmod | grep cciss |
| 15:34.59 | Mad7Scientst | I'm confused isn't Squeeze more unstable than Lenny unstable? |
| 15:34.59 | lrpcuba | there is one problem |
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| 15:35.20 | Mad7Scientst | I would think the Squeeze is newer than the lastest version of Lenny? |
| 15:35.29 | stew | Mad7Scientst: "lenny unstable" doesn't make sense |
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| 15:35.41 | lrpcuba | stew he load the modules but he dont have the modules for hp |
| 15:35.41 | stew | Mad7Scientst: yes, lenny was released 2 years ago. squeeze was released 4 days ago |
| 15:35.55 | teff | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.03 | stew | Mad7Scientst: you can upgrade from lenny to squeeze, but should not upgrade from lenny to testing without first upgrading to squeeze |
| 15:36.07 | Mad7Scientst | Can't you select betwee stable/testing/unstable for versions of packages |
| 15:36.13 | stew | Mad7Scientst: and you should not use unstable |
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| 15:36.37 | stew | Mad7Scientst: you don't, you shouldn't be mixing packages from non-stable into a stable release |
| 15:36.53 | Mad7Scientst | Could I update everything to testing? |
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| 15:37.06 | stew | Mad7Scientst: yes, but you should first upgrade everything to stable |
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| 15:37.16 | hilan | teff: sure, well now I think I need to mess up with the system variables as little fizes have exhausted. btw I have a Dell N4010 inspiron, relatively very new hardware |
| 15:37.17 | stew | since one shoould not skip a stable release |
| 15:37.26 | hilan | s/fizes/fixes |
| 15:37.38 | stew | Mad7Scientst: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 15:37.41 | Mad7Scientst | So the package set from Squeeze 6.0.0 was taken from the stable set of lenny? |
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| 15:38.35 | stew | Mad7Scientst: when lenny was released 2 years ago, squeeze was created with the same pacakges, but then for the last two years, squeeze has been getting updated/new packages |
| 15:38.35 | lrpcuba | stew kinda troublesome |
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| 15:38.42 | stew | lrpcuba: what is? |
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| 15:39.21 | lrpcuba | stew my server with debian |
| 15:39.25 | stew | lrpcuba: why? |
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| 15:40.07 | dsockwell | STEW MY FIRES WITH GASOLINE |
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| 15:40.23 | Mad7Scientst | Oh so they took the unstable package set for Lenny and made it in to squeeze when Lenny was released |
| 15:40.26 | testi_ | I just upgraded from lenny to squeeze, but I didn't restart yet as it is a remote server and the installation mentioned several things about the boot configuration - now I don't know if it is save to reboot. How can I make sure? |
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| 15:40.41 | avis | i'm having trouble getting a c-media card operational under debian 6.0 squeeze |
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| 15:40.45 | lrpcuba | stew because i dont know where to download the cciss driver to make viewable installable and workable that server ml350 3g |
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| 15:41.09 | stew | Mad7Scientst: get rid of the work "unstable" in that sentence maybe |
| 15:41.16 | stew | lrpcuba: you already have it |
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| 15:41.36 | stew | lrpcuba: linux includes a cciss driver. you can load it with "modprobe cciss" |
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| 15:43.01 | Iridos | Mad7Scientst, there is always stable, testing and unstable. New packages go into unstable, if no bugs are found within 1-2 weeks, they migrate into testing. Every two years or so, testing is frozen in an effort to become it as bug-free as possible, after the freeze it is released as the new stable. unstable is always called sid, the codename of each other release stays with it - so squeeze was "testing" until last week and is now stable |
| 15:43.15 | lrpcuba | stew at 2 pm my time , i ll contact you and let you know how was that |
| 15:43.36 | stew | lrpcuba: you don't have to contact me. you can just ask questions in the channel here if you have questions |
| 15:43.48 | ghoulsblade | hi all, i'm getting "the symbol grub_puts_ not found" before grub menu, and when doing insmod /boot/grub/linux.mod in rescue mode, debian stable/squeeze fresh install, any idea what that might be ? only happens when a specific hd is connected.. problem is i'd need that hd later =( |
| 15:43.56 | lrpcuba | stew thats what i mean |
| 15:44.18 | Iridos | Mad7Scientst, and lenny was stable until last week and is now called "oldstable" as long as it is still supported with security fixes |
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| 15:45.25 | stew | Mad7Scientst: when squeeze was released, wheezy was created with the same exact package list, but that only lasted for 12 hours or so, after which time, about 15% of the wheezy packages had already been replaced by newer versions |
| 15:45.37 | stew | squeeze is currently stable, wheezy is currently testing |
| 15:45.53 | jelly | when will wheezy welease? |
| 15:46.03 | stew | in a few years, wheezy will be released and a new one will be created, but by that time, it will just able all have changed from squeeze |
| 15:46.04 | daemonkeeper | It is |
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| 15:48.18 | Iridos | jelly, possibly one could bet on it? |
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| 15:49.02 | jelly | !wwww |
| 15:49.08 | jelly | Iridos: nope |
| 15:49.16 | Iridos | anyway... sounds more like "when will wheezy be released out of this life" |
| 15:49.24 | jelly | wife* |
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| 15:49.44 | Iridos | jelly, what's the 4th 2? welease? |
| 15:49.54 | stew | Iridos: /msg dpkg wheezy bet |
| 15:49.58 | Iridos | s/2/w/ |
| 15:50.23 | Iridos | !factinfo wheezy bet |
| 15:50.23 | dpkg | wheezy bet -- created by themill <~stuart@unaffiliated/themill> 4d 4h 51m 43s ago; last modified 4d 4h 51m 32s ago by themill!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 3 times, last by sney, 3d 10h 59m 30s ago. |
| 15:50.25 | Iridos | ha |
| 15:50.48 | Mad7Scientst | So a week ago Lenna testing was the same as Squeeze |
| 15:51.11 | Mad7Scientst | Testing beame the new Stable 6.0.0 |
| 15:51.15 | apollo13 | there is no such thing as lenny testing |
| 15:51.25 | Mad7Scientst | what is "testing" then? |
| 15:51.26 | Mad7Scientst | oh |
| 15:51.42 | jon8 | according to this website, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Functionality it says that Ext3 can support 32,000 directories within one directory. however, it does not specify how many files can be inside of one directory. Anyone have any idea on that answer? |
| 15:51.48 | apollo13 | stable is squeeze now, lenny is oldstable and testing has yet another name |
| 15:51.56 | Mad7Scientst | stable is the name of the current stable release I see okay :) |
| 15:52.01 | stew | Mad7Scientst: lenny was testing until Feb. 2009. then lenny was stable squeeze was testing until last weekend. now squeeze is stable and wheezy is testing |
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| 15:52.08 | ghoulsblade | "grub_puts_ not found" solved, it was boot order of harddisks, a hd with an older grub2 install was bootet once connected |
| 15:52.08 | Lenhix | jon8: as directories are files themselves, I *think*, it'd be 32.000 as well |
| 15:52.17 | teff | Mad7Scientst: lenny was testing a couple of years ago, before it became stable |
| 15:52.22 | Mad7Scientst | Is the sid the current "unstable"? |
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| 15:52.31 | Iridos | Mad7Scientst, did you read what I explained? |
| 15:52.35 | stew | Mad7Scientst: sid is always unstable, that never changes |
| 15:52.37 | apollo13 | sid is always unstable :þ |
| 15:52.49 | Lenhix | ^^ |
| 15:52.52 | teff | Mad7Scientst: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 15:53.30 | Devastator | i know there's a cli command to change apt mirror, but can't remember it, does anybody know? |
| 15:53.44 | Iridos | apt-spy? |
| 15:53.53 | stew | Devastator: editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:53.59 | jon8 | Lenhix hmm.. |
| 15:54.14 | Mad7Scientst | thanks everyone |
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| 16:00.12 | Devastator | Iridos i remember i used apt-spy once, but i don't know if was it, what i remember is that i typed a command then it would search for the fastest mirror and update my sources.list |
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| 16:01.09 | Iridos | !apt-spy |
| 16:01.09 | dpkg | a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
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| 16:01.20 | Iridos | that's it, but all it did for me was segfault |
| 16:01.25 | lamah | why alsamixer cannot regulate my sound music levels it stays untouched? |
| 16:01.40 | lamah | after volume up/down, it's a one device hw:0 |
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| 16:04.55 | Devastator | thanks Iridos! |
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| 16:18.05 | c3l | when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree, I get ERROR: sha512sum rejected install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz, ive tried removing it from the archive cache and downloading again (waiting 1 d), is the problem on my side? |
| 16:18.08 | greycat | I believe I figured out why the GRUB timeout setting wasn't working for me. My monitor takes a while to switch modes, and I believe it is black during the first 2-4 seconds of the GRUB menu. So I just increased the timeout setting to 8 seconds, and now I get a reasonable 4 or 5 seconds of visible menu once the screen lights up. |
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| 16:22.14 | eshat | greycat: if you do not need the background image in grub, try setting to console mode |
| 16:22.37 | greycat | What background image? |
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| 16:22.54 | eshat | I believe it is a bug causing grub to load a few seconds, which I could get rid of, by setting GRUB_TERMINAL=console |
| 16:23.06 | eshat | greycat: the GRUB background image (if you have set on) |
| 16:23.18 | korencia | c3l Maybe Man-in-the-middle attempt :-) |
| 16:23.19 | eshat | If you don't you can safely activate this option and update-grub |
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| 16:24.08 | greycat | I'll just leave it as-is for now. |
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| 16:25.17 | sincin | hi, i'm in search of a large pictogram/symbol collection (public domain) which i can use in noncommercial/commercial projects, so far i only know The Noun Project, but this only lets me download single images from the website and not the whole collection and it would be great to have a searchable collection of coloured/black-wihte symbols/pictograms... maybe someone has got any hint for me? |
| 16:25.35 | sincin | (not debian specific, but foss related!) |
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| 16:26.15 | jhutchins2 | sincin: I believe Dover Press has collections you can purchase. After all, someone has to do all the work of creating and collecting the images. |
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| 16:26.35 | crodjer | my debian squeeze is having waking up from standby problems with r8169: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7147/eth0-r8169-down-on-wake-up-from-standby |
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| 16:27.28 | testi_ | Networking no longer works in openVZ guests since i upgraded from debian lenny to squeeze, except to the host. How can I track down the issue? |
| 16:27.32 | korencia | sincin what about Creative Commons ? They have lots of (partially) artistic stuff with reasonable licences.. |
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| 16:28.08 | sincin | jhutchins2: sure, but i can imagine that there are some smaller projects which have public domain collections for free and two or three of them would make a pretty usable one |
| 16:28.12 | c3l | korencia: that sounds scary! what other reasons could it be, or how could I eliminate thinkable issues? |
| 16:28.40 | sincin | korencia: you know any specific collection with more than 100 symbols? |
| 16:28.43 | jhutchins2 | sincin: How would the people who created such a collection be compensated for their work? |
| 16:28.54 | frikinz | c3l: no, the problem is not on your side. its on adobe side, upgrading(?) their code but not changing version number.. |
| 16:29.22 | amoe | Hi, I don't want to use the Debian layout for /etc/apache2 because I'm pedantic. However many maintainer scripts rely on the presence of a2enmod, a2ensite, etc. Anything I can do besides modifying a2enmod to always succeed? |
| 16:29.24 | sincin | jhutchins2: how are all the foos people compensated? |
| 16:29.25 | korencia | c3l I'm joking.. Probably it isn't so.. But maybe -do you have hackers in your student hostel? :-) |
| 16:29.26 | korencia | Try redownload |
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| 16:29.41 | crodjer | is there any way to restart the networking after waking up from a suspend? |
| 16:30.13 | akkark | ifup |
| 16:30.52 | wsxws | invoke-rc.d networking restart ? |
| 16:31.09 | c3l | korencia: by redownloading, you mean removing it from the /var/cache/apt/archives ? and then simply re-installing with aptitude as usual? Ive done this with no luck, is there anything more to be removed? |
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| 16:31.45 | acx0 | from what I understand, the /usr/local/ directory is for custom versions of programs you install; if I have a program which has all the files in a single folder, should I put it in /usr/local/lib, and then symlink the binary to /usr/local/bin? |
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| 16:32.24 | Iridos | sincin, but you're not forbidden to download them all, I think... what about something like for i in {1..500}; do wget http://www.thenounproject.com/site_media/zipped/svg_$i.zip; unzip svg_$i.zip; done |
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| 16:32.32 | crodjer | wsxws, I did service networking restart, there was no error but still networking not worked |
| 16:32.41 | korencia | sincin Creative commons This was the first time in the museumâs history that its collection has been available to the public. The collection contains over 70,000 objects dating back to the Middle Ages and is updated on a bi-weekly basis. -->Yes, there are collection 100+ objects. Maybe 100+ symbols. |
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| 16:33.28 | wsxws | ifconfig is fine ? |
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| 16:34.03 | sincin | korencia: link= |
| 16:34.08 | sincin | ? |
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| 16:34.40 | dkr | sincin: "All the symbols on our site are completely free to download", just use curl to grab them all... |
| 16:35.00 | wsxws | gotta run now |
| 16:35.02 | sincin | Iridos: yeah, i'm already about to do that, but still i'm interested in other collections, too |
| 16:35.10 | crodjer | wsxws, this: `ifconfig eth0 up; dhcpcd eht0` gets the network up but not by network manager |
| 16:35.10 | wsxws | have a nice one |
| 16:35.25 | korencia | sincin http://www.waag.org/ (the museum...) |
| 16:35.30 | dkr | oh, heh, Iridos gmta. :) |
| 16:35.34 | crodjer | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7147/eth0-r8169-down-on-wake-up-from-standby |
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| 16:36.35 | korencia | sincin maybe it isn't what you are searching for, but definitely there ARE bigger collections.. But it needs to search for them. |
| 16:36.42 | sincin | korencia: ah, i thought you already had a pictogram collection in mind |
| 16:36.59 | sincin | korencia: yeah, that's why i'm here |
| 16:37.04 | dkr | Iridos: curl ha a nifty range feature built in so you don't have to make a loop like that around wget. curl 'http://www.thenounproject.com/site_media/zipped/svg_[1..500].zip' |
| 16:37.05 | Iridos | dkr, we always used to call it "two idiots, one thought", though :-P |
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| 16:37.51 | korencia | sincin http://www.noupe.com/freebie/pictodeck-icon-set-over-700-free-pictograms-for-keynote.html http://www.google.com/search?q=pictogram+collection&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&q=pictogram+collection+creatice+commons&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=d46d7fcb6d497136 |
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| 16:38.12 | lcb | could you please give me some 'help' place where i could get the correct configuration for no-ip.com on ddclient. |
| 16:38.13 | c3l | frikinz: so how can I get past this adobe issue? can I bypass the checksum checking? |
| 16:38.49 | Mad7Scientst | is no-ip.com better than afraid.org? |
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| 16:39.05 | Mad7Scientst | is ddclient a dhcp client? |
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| 16:39.23 | c3l | Mad7Scientst: I like dyndns |
| 16:39.24 | amoe | FYI it works to create /usr/local/bin/a2enmod and make sure /usr/local/bin is first in the PATH |
| 16:39.29 | akkark | dynamic dns client actually |
| 16:39.32 | frikinz | c3l: extract the targz manually and move it to /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ |
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| 16:39.48 | amoe | Strangely dpkg doesn't seem to play with the PATH at all before executing maintainer scripts |
| 16:39.49 | c3l | frikinz: oh, thanks |
| 16:40.01 | a_run | any ifx for problems with intel vga in squeeze ? |
| 16:40.03 | OpenTokix | Mad7Scientst: no, ddclient is to update dynamic-dns-service - And one isnt that much better then another,since its not exactlu rocketsurgery |
| 16:40.06 | a_run | s/ifx/fix/ |
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| 16:40.22 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, I believe the acpid program has a place in /etc for pre and post standby scripts. But I am not familliar with debian yet. |
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| 16:40.50 | frikinz | c3l: I'd keep a copy of a working one actually :) |
| 16:41.18 | sincin | korencia: dropbox error for that one |
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| 16:41.50 | frikinz | c3l: if you have an old libflashplayer.so .. cause adobe also forgets about leaving old versions |
| 16:42.10 | Mad7Scientst | Yeah you have to ifup the interface |
| 16:42.17 | a_run | dragging windows on the screen are too slow |
| 16:42.24 | Mad7Scientst | c3l, but dyndns isn't free |
| 16:42.39 | Mad7Scientst | my homelinux.net account got erased after the trial period was up |
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| 16:43.09 | OpenTokix | Mad7Scientst: you have to click a link "Yes I am still using it" |
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| 16:43.24 | korencia | sincin write to google: creative commons collection pictogram and start browsing |
| 16:43.31 | c3l | Mad7Scientst: maybe im confusing your point, but I am using dyndns domains for my server (allowed to have up to 5 domains afaik), I just need to login once a monthe or so to keep the free account |
| 16:43.31 | Iridos | dyndns still lets you use two names for free... out of a limited sortiment |
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| 16:43.55 | Mad7Scientst | But I'll forget and a month will go by |
| 16:44.07 | crodjer | Mad7Scientst, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/acpid-pm-utils-suspend-resume-and-current-745907/ are you suggesting something like this should work? |
| 16:44.18 | meder | stupid question, but when I had lenny i upgraded to sid. now that squeeze is it *officially* does it make sense and can i move to squeeze instead of sid? |
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| 16:44.35 | meder | is out* |
| 16:44.48 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, I think your problem is that although networking is working fine, the inteface is "Down" with no IP when the computer comes back from standby |
| 16:44.53 | stew | meder: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 16:44.58 | Mad7Scientst | so just ifup eth0 |
| 16:45.02 | stew | meder: short answer: not safely if at all |
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| 16:45.20 | Pumba | meder: do the source lines in /etc/apt/sources.lst read "sid" or "squeeze"? |
| 16:45.24 | crodjer | I get: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. |
| 16:45.26 | meder | sid |
| 16:45.53 | Mad7Scientst | meder, when Lenny was the official stable release I thought "testing" was Squeeze |
| 16:45.58 | Pumba | (hang on, did I mix up the dev names?) |
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| 16:46.16 | jo_ | hey guy's, Is it possible that LaCie disables commands from hdparm to their disks? I always get: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid exchange. |
| 16:46.18 | stew | Mad7Scientst: just stop. no, that is wrong, and I've explained that to you about 3 or 4 times already |
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| 16:46.31 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, come back from standby and type # ifconfig eth0 |
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| 16:46.41 | stew | Mad7Scientst: perhaps you should write this down or something so that you don't keep getting it wrong |
| 16:46.58 | Mad7Scientst | :( |
| 16:47.22 | Mad7Scientst | stable < testing < unstable (sid) right |
| 16:47.48 | stew | yes |
| 16:48.15 | Mad7Scientst | Last week Lenny was stable and this week Squeeze is stable right? |
| 16:48.25 | Iridos | right |
| 16:48.49 | sincin | dkr: with your curl solution i get "error: bad range specification after position 50" |
| 16:48.57 | Mad7Scientst | This week what is "testing" called? |
| 16:49.08 | Iridos | wheezy |
| 16:49.17 | Mad7Scientst | and last week what was it called? |
| 16:49.18 | evilbulgarian | Hi, i am trying to set up an debian local mirror and using ftpsync i seem to be missing Packages.gz and Release.gpg http://pastebin.com/0xm25Ja2 is my ftpsync.conf |
| 16:49.45 | stew | Mad7Scientst: wait, I apologize, i might have misread your statement to read that lenny was stable |
| 16:49.48 | meder | http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 16:49.53 | meder | Mad7Scientst: ^ |
| 16:49.55 | Iridos | squeeze... and I think stew read what you said wrong |
| 16:50.02 | Iridos | ... slow |
| 16:50.03 | Mad7Scientst | :) |
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| 16:50.21 | sincin | dkr: can you manage to download some of those zips? |
| 16:50.27 | Mad7Scientst | So last week testing was called Squeeze |
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| 16:50.42 | korencia | Mad7Scientst releases! |
| 16:50.52 | korencia | releases! |
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| 16:51.34 | meder | there is.. 1 . stable 2. testing 3. unstable .. testing was squeeze and before that, lenny and before that, etch |
| 16:51.37 | xro | hi, i have an issue with one of my debian 5 32bits server.... i had to reboot it..... but it dosen't reboot... it is locked at "starting system message bus: dbus"... have you an idea? |
| 16:51.42 | meder | now testing is wheezy |
| 16:51.46 | meder | unstable is always sid |
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| 16:52.18 | meder | all testing becomes stable |
| 16:52.23 | meder | unstable stays unstable ( sid ) |
| 16:52.42 | jhutchins2 | Mad7Scientst: More accurate to say that last week squeeze was still being tested and is now considered stable, and that a new testing release, wheezy, has been created. |
| 16:52.56 | rafael | :) |
| 16:53.03 | crodjer | Mad7Scientst, I just cameback from standby but ifup eth0 still gave same error |
| 16:53.40 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, did you do ifconfig eth0? |
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| 16:53.51 | jhutchins2 | crodjer: What kind of "standby" are you using? Screensaver? Suspend to RAM? Suspend to Disk? |
| 16:54.10 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, anyway, do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 16:54.20 | crodjer | Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 16:54.28 | Mad7Scientst | when you do "down"? |
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| 16:55.00 | Mad7Scientst | your nic might have a different name than eth0 |
| 16:55.20 | crodjer | ifconfig eth0 gives this: |
| 16:55.25 | korencia | !tell Mad7Scientst about releases |
| 16:55.41 | crodjer | http://pastebin.com/wUMhSNT8 |
| 16:56.05 | greycat | What is the point of having a .0 on the end of a version number if they never do any x.1 releases any more? |
| 16:56.11 | hilan | I am getting this while installing some packages:Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press [Enter]. |
| 16:56.19 | hilan | how can I stop this from happening |
| 16:56.31 | greycat | Well, the obvious way would be to insert the CD. |
| 16:56.32 | crodjer | Mad7Scientst, so it is eth0...I am connected currently through dhcpcd eth0 |
| 16:56.33 | hilan | and ask debian to work from online repo |
| 16:56.38 | akkark | remove disc line from sources.list |
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| 16:56.52 | greycat | If you want to stop using the CD, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the CD lines, and then do apt-get update. |
| 16:57.23 | jhutchins2 | hilan: Comment the CD lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and add on-line sources. |
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| 16:57.42 | jhutchins2 | !tell hilan about sources.list |
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| 16:58.09 | evilgenius101 | i need some help with locales. i tried changing them. it was successful, now it won't let me apt-get update or install anything |
| 16:58.09 | korencia | hilan commenting = giving at the beginning of the script this letter: # |
| 16:58.23 | henez | if I install an application in /usr/local/bin and it uses commands like: std::string save_image_string("myimage"); where could I find that image? it should be in /usr/local/bin but there isn't |
| 16:58.28 | hilan | jhutchins2: # is already there |
| 16:58.33 | dkr | sincin: yes |
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| 16:59.17 | frikinz | henez: myimage is a string .. |
| 16:59.42 | PlagueRat | how do I set passwords to nothing <null> in debian 5.0 ??? |
| 16:59.55 | hilan | jhutchins2: sorry, there was another cdrom added |
| 17:00.01 | henez | frikinz, I put the wrong function, anyway something like saveimage("myname"); |
| 17:00.10 | hilan | jhutchins2: but it doesn't allow me to save changes |
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| 17:00.34 | akkark | hilan: edit it as root |
| 17:00.39 | hilan | jhutchins2: if I use su and then open the same file, it shows an empty file |
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| 17:00.55 | greycat | henez: The location of a program is different from the program's working directory when it is executed. |
| 17:00.56 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, I think the problem is that ifup/down doesn't know about eth0 because you didn't add it in /etc/networking/interfaces http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html see section 5.3 |
| 17:01.02 | sincin | dkr: what's the exact command that you have used? |
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| 17:01.08 | frikinz | henez: it's impossible to answer to you without seeing the code. and your question has nothing to do with debian. and.. I'm leaving. good luck :p |
| 17:01.11 | greycat | henez: If you are in $HOME when you execute it, then any pathnames without a leading / will be relative to $HOME. |
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| 17:01.21 | PlagueRat | how do I set passwords to nothing <null> in debian 5.0 ??? on other *nix that I've used I'd just edit /etc/passwd... but ALL the passwords in there are "x", so it appears debian stores them somewhere else. |
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| 17:01.35 | henez | greycat, uhm |
| 17:01.36 | greycat | PlagueRat: /etc/shadow (man shadow) |
| 17:01.40 | dkr | sincin: oh, sorry, the range separator should be a - not .. |
| 17:01.49 | PlagueRat | greycat - thanks |
| 17:01.57 | sincin | dkr: btw, i don't even need the range, just all *.zip files (don't think that there are lying other zips on the server, haven't looked yet) |
| 17:01.57 | dkr | sincin: curl 'http://www.thenounproject.com/site_media/zipped/svg_[1-500].zip' -o 'svg_#1.zip' |
| 17:02.29 | crodjer | Mad7Scientst, yeah that could be the cause.....but it was configured like that automatically so I didn't temper it |
| 17:02.30 | henez | greycat, there is nothing there |
| 17:02.54 | greycat | henez: I can't help you debug your program. I don't even know what language that is. |
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| 17:03.20 | dkr | sincin: you can't use wildcards since there is no list of files. and there are actually more than 500 |
| 17:03.25 | henez | greycat, c++ using opencv |
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| 17:03.55 | xro | nobody could help me? I have an issue with one of my debian 5 32bits server.... i had to reboot it..... but it dosen't reboot... it is locked at "starting system message bus: dbus"... have you an idea? |
| 17:04.06 | Mad7Scientst | 5.5.4. The network interface served by the DHCPrn |
| 17:04.11 | debiAn- | How can i disable Session manager (xfce4-session) please? |
| 17:04.13 | Mad7Scientst | allow-hotplug eth0rniface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 17:04.18 | Mad7Scientst | crodjer, |
| 17:04.26 | greycat | Well, if your program is opening a file named "myimage" for write, it will be in the process's working directory. Unless the open failed. |
| 17:04.53 | Mad7Scientst | or set static see 5.5.5 |
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| 17:06.41 | eshat | Is there a chance, that debian renames iceweasel to firefox in future ? |
| 17:06.57 | stealthii | what password hashing algorithm does Squeeze use by default? |
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| 17:07.00 | akkark | name's not free |
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| 17:07.17 | eshat | akkark: what about ubuntu ? They have it unbranded |
| 17:07.17 | Arrowmaster | eshat: doubtful |
| 17:07.20 | greycat | stealthii: should be simple enough to find out. Look in /etc/shadow. If it's $1$ then it's MD5. |
| 17:07.38 | akkark | eshat: they have another policy then |
| 17:07.38 | Arrowmaster | eshat: ubuntu is only providing the latest version of firefox without any modifications |
| 17:07.41 | stealthii | greycat: didn;t think of that. will check :) |
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| 17:07.53 | eshat | Arrowmaster: I think that is incorrect |
| 17:07.54 | bolt-work | you'd choose your distribution based on the name of the webbrowser? |
| 17:08.15 | stealthii | greycat: thanks. md5 it is. |
| 17:08.21 | akkark | u can still install firefox after all |
| 17:08.28 | eshat | bolt-work: No, I just think, that it causes much confusion and make people think, that the whole linux world is very complicated |
| 17:08.29 | keith4 | what do I need to install to let gThumb import photos from an iPhone/Pod? |
| 17:08.36 | greycat | I just install Firefox directly from mozilla.com. |
| 17:08.42 | keith4 | ...i swear it used to be able to do that, before i upgrade to squeeze |
| 17:08.43 | greycat | I don't even bother with the debs any more. |
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| 17:09.11 | eshat | However, I was just wondering.... |
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| 17:09.31 | eshat | I think that chromium is becoming the better choice anyway (without wanting to start a flamewar) |
| 17:09.32 | greycat | Well, the "linux world" *is* very complicated. |
| 17:09.36 | filip | hi, where at http://svn.debian.org/ can I find dpkg repository? |
| 17:09.42 | filip | I have trouble locating it |
| 17:10.05 | eshat | filip: check the pts webpage of dpkg, you will find a link to svn there |
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| 17:10.27 | eshat | filip: git://git.debian.org/git/dpkg/dpkg.git |
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| 17:11.03 | eshat | greycat: Maybe it is, but this unnecessary, isn't it ? |
| 17:11.04 | filip | eshat: oh, thanks :) |
| 17:11.13 | filip | eshat: I was hoping for git |
| 17:11.16 | eshat | filip: You're very welco |
| 17:11.45 | crodjer | Mad7Scientst, this commands gets the network up with the conventional network manager: `modprobe -r r8169; modprobe r8169; service network-manager restart` and can be configured through panel applet |
| 17:12.02 | crodjer | so is there any way to automate this? |
| 17:12.04 | greycat | eshat: it is necessary because of how copyrights work. Welcome to earth. |
| 17:12.23 | sincin | dkr: well, now i got them, just have to figure out how to unzip them |
| 17:12.45 | eshat | greycat: german wikipedia pacge says, that ubuntu makes much more changes to the firefox package then debian but is allowed to keep the unbranded version |
| 17:13.34 | eshat | I think it is just about communication, I doubt that mozilla will forbid debian something that they approved to ubuntu |
| 17:13.54 | eshat | They just have to ask gently ;) |
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| 17:14.33 | greycat | Don't know, don't care. Ask a lawyer.... |
| 17:14.57 | sincin | ls |
| 17:15.01 | greycat | I'll continue ignoring Debian's iceweasel entirely and just maintaining my own /usr/local/firefox directory. |
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| 17:15.12 | lamah | why i can t regulate music with alsamixer? |
| 17:15.20 | PlagueRat | okay, found /etc/shadow, edited out the password, and it doesn't work like I expected. So, I read the man page, and it says it has to be a valid crypt output string... so, is there any way to set passwords to null on debian? I control the box... it's locked in my house. I don't want a password. I really don't. |
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| 17:16.05 | greycat | Removing the hash from field 2 of the /etc/passwd file (or removing the 'x' or the '!' or whatever) should work. |
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| 17:16.44 | jhutchins2 | PlagueRat: kdm allows auto-login without a password. |
| 17:16.51 | PlagueRat | oh... okay... it stores the password in one file, but controls the need for it in the original file... not obvious, but I can see how that arose. |
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| 17:17.09 | greycat | It only refers to /etc/shadow if it's told to by /etc/passwd. |
| 17:17.17 | lamah | ?!?!? |
| 17:17.36 | sincin | ok gus, i have 500 zip files an a directory and i want to unzip them all, why does "unzip *.zip" not work? |
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| 17:18.05 | greycat | sincin: for x in *.zip; do unzip "$x"; done |
| 17:18.26 | greycat | unzip does not handle multiple archive extractions in a single invocation. it's just how it was written. |
| 17:18.28 | eshat | sincin: try "for i in ls *.zip; do unzip $i; done" |
| 17:18.28 | frostschutz | sincin: many archivers use a extract archive fileinarchive1 fileinarchive2 syntax to extract only specific files from an archive |
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| 17:18.32 | Arrowmaster | <eshat> I think it is just about communication, I doubt that mozilla will forbid debian something that they approved to ubuntu <- mozilla explicitly contacted debian and asked them to stop patching firefox or change the name |
| 17:18.33 | greycat | eshat: NO. |
| 17:18.33 | stew | sincin: because your shell expands *.zip to 1.zip 2.zip 3.zip etc (for the files matching) and this tells zip "extrace 2.zip 3.zip etc from 1.zip" |
| 17:18.51 | stew | sincin: you can instead use "unzip \*.zip" |
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| 17:19.03 | greycat | stew: oh, it does that? huh.... |
| 17:19.08 | stew | yeah |
| 17:19.14 | frostschutz | I have a massextract * command that puts contents of each archive in a separate subdir ;) |
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| 17:20.00 | eshat | Arrowmaster: maybe mozilla regrets that nowadays, and comparing this behaviour to the policy with ubuntu, I think mozilla will allow debian to use the name |
| 17:20.26 | eshat | Arrowmaster: unfortunalty programmers are very proud people, so maybe this conversation will not happen |
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| 17:20.50 | stew | eshat: word is that we will get to use the trademarks again sometime (before wheezy?) |
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| 17:21.03 | stew | but nothing's settled until it is settled |
| 17:21.19 | Arrowmaster | the image trademark issue was resolved though right? |
| 17:21.28 | Arrowmaster | its only the name that is still an issue? |
| 17:21.35 | sincin | i always get "caution: filename not matched" |
| 17:21.53 | eshat | stew: Arrowmaster: is this discussed on any mailing list? |
| 17:22.05 | greycat | debian-legal most likely |
| 17:22.07 | Arrowmaster | !why iceweasel |
| 17:22.07 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 17:22.27 | stew | eshat: the renaming back to the upstream names? i don't know. i've just seen the maintainer mention it |
| 17:22.28 | Arrowmaster | should be links to mailing list in one of those links |
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| 17:22.42 | xro | nobody could help me? I have an issue with one of my debian 5 32bits server.... i had to reboot it..... but it dosen't reboot... it is locked at "starting system message bus: dbus"... have you an idea? |
| 17:22.58 | sincin | now it all worked |
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| 17:23.01 | sincin | thx guys! |
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| 17:24.06 | stew | eshat: i'd check the mailing list which is listed as maintainer |
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| 17:24.26 | abrotman | what about the non-free artwork? |
| 17:24.31 | eshat | stew: I checked the PTS but couldn't find a according mailing list |
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| 17:24.57 | lamah | how can i up/down levels of sounds in my sound card? |
| 17:25.04 | stew | eshat: who is the maintainer |
| 17:25.31 | eshat | Maintainers of Mozilla-related packages, |
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| 17:25.37 | cahoot | lamah: use a mixer/mixerapplet |
| 17:25.38 | stew | eshat: and what is the email address? |
| 17:26.08 | lamah | cahoot: i am under console/tty i am using alsamixer but when i down the levels or up the levels they are still untouched ? |
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| 17:26.13 | eshat | stew: Ohh, okay, I didn't check alioth |
| 17:26.21 | eshat | only had a look on lists.d.o |
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| 17:26.27 | lamah | cahoot: i mean i can't regulate the sound |
| 17:26.35 | Trewas | http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1650 <- there's some newer info from the iceweasel maintainer |
| 17:26.59 | cahoot | lamah: alsamixer accesses the correct sounddevice |
| 17:26.59 | cahoot | + |
| 17:27.18 | lamah | cahoot: yes i have one device it's a hw:0 |
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| 17:28.01 | jhutchins2 | xro: Have you tried to reboot it again? |
| 17:28.25 | jhutchins2 | xro: Do you know which kernel you have? |
| 17:28.52 | lamah | cahoot: the colum with level it downs but sound is still the same |
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| 17:29.00 | cahoot | lamah: cat /proc/asound/cards - only one? |
| 17:29.16 | lamah | cahoot: yea |
| 17:30.02 | greycat | lamah: which column are you actually lowering? |
| 17:30.03 | cahoot | lamah: I suppose using amixer doesn't help |
| 17:30.16 | lamah | greycat: all of column i am trying |
| 17:30.16 | greycat | You most likely want PCM Master or whatever it's called. |
| 17:30.38 | lamah | greycat: i have tried all columns |
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| 17:31.01 | lamah | cahoot: how with amixer? |
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| 17:31.27 | eshat | lamah: you can select the sound device (if you have more then one) by pressing F6 in alsamixer |
| 17:31.40 | lamah | eshat: i know it's a one |
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| 17:31.53 | lamah | and F5 shows all controls... also |
| 17:31.55 | greycat | Are you actually playing sounds *through* the ALSA device? |
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| 17:32.01 | eshat | lamah: check that it is not muted by pressing M |
| 17:32.17 | lamah | eshat: yes i have chacked that |
| 17:32.23 | lamah | eshat: but maybe i need to mute something? |
| 17:32.27 | cahoot | lamah: something like: amixer sset PCM 70% |
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| 17:32.36 | lamah | cahoot: ok checks |
| 17:32.38 | xro | jhutchins2, of course i tried to reboot many times... also into single mode... |
| 17:32.40 | greycat | lamah: what program are you using to play the audio? |
| 17:32.57 | eshat | lamah: F5 shows in and outputs of one device... please check if there isn't another card listed when pressing F6 |
| 17:33.25 | xro | jhutchins2, i dont have the kernel version now... but do you know what should it be? |
| 17:33.36 | eshat | lamah: as greycat says, check with speaker-test from console (you should hear noise) |
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| 17:33.50 | greycat | (I said that?) |
| 17:33.55 | lapfrog | hey how can i tell whether my lappy is using b, g or n wireless? |
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| 17:34.20 | greycat | I just wanted to be sure he was actually using the ALSA output device, and not for example playing a CD directly to earphones. |
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| 17:34.48 | UukGoblin | if I have a problem with a lenny package, is the package's maintainer the guy to email? |
| 17:34.59 | UukGoblin | or should I post to some mailing list? |
| 17:35.13 | puff | UukGoblin: Probably file a bug report. |
| 17:35.36 | UukGoblin | ah, true |
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| 17:35.49 | UukGoblin | why didn't I think of that ;-] thanks |
| 17:35.49 | puff | UukGoblin: Though I would try to figure it out, maybe ask for help via list, etc, first, to make sure it's a bug. |
| 17:36.08 | puff | UukGoblin: Also, check to make sure there isn't a bug report filed already. |
| 17:36.40 | puff | UukGoblin: If there is one, and if it's likely to be archiecture-specific, then add a ccomment to the bug about your architecture. |
| 17:36.40 | UukGoblin | ok! :-) so, the freeradius 2.0.4+dfsg-6 package has libfreeradius-dev, which has a few header files which seem to include autoconf.h, which doesn't look to be packaged |
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| 17:37.18 | UukGoblin | autoconf.h is generated from autoconf.h.in, and it's included in squeeze/sid's 2.1.10 version, but it seems to be missing from the lenny one |
| 17:37.20 | puff | UukGoblin: We have now passed the limits of my useful knowledge about your problem :-). |
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| 17:37.34 | UukGoblin | ;-) |
| 17:37.41 | UukGoblin | ok, I'll look around and post there first, thanks |
| 17:37.55 | puff | good luck to you |
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| 17:38.42 | UukGoblin | can I search for bugs by package? |
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| 17:40.20 | icefrog | does anyone know why i have trouble with pre-up iptables-restore < /file in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:40.37 | icefrog | at boot it complains about unrecognized option with the pre-up lines if i dont comment them out |
| 17:40.59 | icefrog | it used to work fine |
| 17:41.07 | skutr3 | can someone help me with flas player install? |
| 17:41.09 | icefrog | im using the squeeze stable |
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| 17:41.33 | stew | icefrog: can you show us interfaces and show us the error in a pastebin? |
| 17:41.48 | Charbal | Just dist-upgraded a powerpc lenny installation. It seems to have installed an i386 procps, which obviously isn't working. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:42.05 | stew | Charbal: how do you know this happened? |
| 17:42.10 | icefrog | stew let me pastebin my interfaces file |
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| 17:42.36 | Charbal | stew: /bin/ps: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped |
| 17:42.54 | skutr3 | can someone help me with fash player install |
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| 17:43.09 | icefrog | http://pastebin.com/2ezLswaA |
| 17:43.16 | Charbal | Whereas everything else on the system is 32-bit MSB PowerPC |
| 17:43.25 | joepa | I accidentally hosed my kernel, such that grub2 cannot find it. Is there an easy way to use an install/rescue cd to install a new kernel in an existing installation? |
| 17:43.30 | icefrog | for some reason the new debian doesnt like my pre-up lines |
| 17:43.31 | Charbal | (Well, everything except that provided by the procps package) |
| 17:43.31 | stew | Charbal: what does "apt-cache policy procps" say for Installed: ? |
| 17:44.02 | stew | icefrog: they should go after the interface they are modifying |
| 17:44.26 | icefrog | i was under the impression they could be anywhere, but ill try placing them after an interface to see if that helps |
| 17:44.53 | stew | Charbal: and/or can you say what matches "echo /var/cache/apt/archives/procps*" |
| 17:44.54 | arand_ | Does the BTS classify bugs according to confirmed or not? |
| 17:45.03 | icefrog | and packages.debian.org is down |
| 17:45.06 | icefrog | wonder how long that will take heh |
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| 17:45.19 | Charbal | stew: http://pastebin.com/duRQj4vF |
| 17:45.49 | Charbal | stew: And echo: /var/cache/apt/archives/procps_1%3a3.2.7-11_powerpc.deb |
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| 17:46.08 | stew | Charbal: ok, give me a sec, I want to doublecheck the package in the repository |
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| 17:47.08 | stew | Charbal: the one in the pool has "ps: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1..." |
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| 17:47.28 | stew | Charbal: what does "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/procps_1%3a3.2.7-11_powerpc.deb" return? |
| 17:47.40 | stew | should be c4464442abe52feead85d01569957a31 |
| 17:47.53 | Charbal | That's what I get. |
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| 17:48.09 | stew | Charbal: can you "aptitude reinstall procps" and check the "file /bin/ps" output again? |
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| 17:49.10 | Charbal | stew: Tried that... it fails with "unable to make backup link of `./sbin/sysctl' before installing new version: Operation not permitted" |
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| 17:49.35 | skutr3 | can someone help me with installing FlashPlayer? |
| 17:50.04 | Charbal | (Error occurs during during unpack) |
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| 17:50.37 | Coded1 | hello all |
| 17:51.14 | stew | Charbal: my guess as to what might have happened is that someone tried to rootkit but had the wrong arch, and part of their doing this was to chattr +i some files |
| 17:51.19 | stew | and/or directories |
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| 17:51.45 | Coded1 | I am installing from netinst and I need to install wireless-tools the problem being I don't have a package manager available to install it ... any tips? |
| 17:51.48 | stew | Charbal: check "lsattr filename" for files like /bin/ps and /sbin/sysctl and "lsattr -d /sbin" |
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| 17:52.33 | Charbal | stew: ----ia------------- /bin/ps, ------------------- /sbin/ |
| 17:52.45 | stew | right |
| 17:52.46 | arand_ | skutr3: in what way are you trying to install it? |
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| 17:53.00 | Charbal | stew: Concerning if true... I should probably rebuild then? |
| 17:53.33 | stew | Charbal: if it's true, you should rebuild, yes |
| 17:53.37 | stew | Charbal: what is the md5sum of /bin/ps? |
| 17:54.03 | Charbal | stew: c3b9cda57d7cfd733864f30823361814 |
| 17:54.03 | stew | Charbal: and yes the 'i' is what I was expecting we might find |
| 17:54.16 | stew | Charbal: google for it :) |
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| 17:54.19 | stew | (the md5sum) |
| 17:54.31 | icefrog | stew that helped thx, now jsut waiting til packages.debian.org goes back up |
| 17:54.33 | Charbal | stew: Ah, thanks. |
| 17:54.42 | skutr3 | arand_: i downloaded the .rpm |
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| 17:55.25 | arand_ | skutr3: debian uses .deb packages. |
| 17:55.37 | jkyle | is it advisable to upgrade to squeeze yet? I'm not seeing a backports package source for that distro |
| 17:55.41 | skutr3 | ok.... |
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| 17:55.46 | Charbal | stew: Well, no better time than just after a stable release to reinstall. Thanks again. |
| 17:55.49 | icefrog | i dont know im using squeeze, i just installed stable fresh |
| 17:55.51 | icefrog | works fine |
| 17:55.56 | icefrog | i wouldnt do a dist upgrade tho |
| 17:55.57 | stew | Charbal: :) |
| 17:56.13 | skutr3 | arand_: the downloads said .deb for ubuntu though |
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| 17:56.25 | jkyle | icefrog: no? why's that? |
| 17:56.39 | icefrog | it always gives more trouble than a fresh install |
| 17:56.44 | _jesse_ | skutr3: ubuntu is debian based |
| 17:56.44 | icefrog | its jsut the safest way to go |
| 17:56.54 | stew | icefrog: "lsb_release -c" would tell you if you are running squeeze |
| 17:57.00 | arand_ | skutr3: It will most likely work for debian as well, I guess the put ubuntu since it's the most popular amongst their visitors |
| 17:57.02 | Sevet | hi everyone. i have this /etc/network/interfaces on lenny: http://pastebin.com/QdwCv6XM but on boot i only get the inet addresses assigned, not the inet6 one - why is that? |
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| 17:57.58 | jkyle | so, I've always wondered this. But why is there both apt-get/cache and aptitude? Which is newer? Which is advised? |
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| 17:58.14 | skutr3 | arand_: there arent install instructions :( |
| 17:58.21 | icefrog | bash: lsb_release: command not found |
| 17:58.30 | lamah | bleh! |
| 17:58.46 | hv | not cool: a java hangs if you call Double.parseDouble("2.2250738585072012e-308"). |
| 17:58.53 | icefrog | im pretty sure im running squeeze, debian 6.0 |
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| 17:59.08 | lamah | cahoot: and with amixer is the same... |
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| 17:59.28 | lamah | cahoot: yes device is a my sound card hw:0! |
| 17:59.37 | Sevet | icefrog: maybe your path is bad, try /usr/bin/lsb_release |
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| 17:59.51 | skutr3 | arand_: can you help me |
| 17:59.52 | skutr3 | > |
| 17:59.54 | arand_ | skutr3: if you download the .deb package, and then use the file browser to right-click it and "open with gdebi..." |
| 17:59.57 | cahoot | lamah: might be the module has incomplete support for your device |
| 18:00.01 | lamah | cahoot: no other, variants, and.. i am playing with mpg123 mpg321 mplayer but for the sound i am using .asoundrc script file |
| 18:00.12 | lamah | cahoot: i forgot to tell you that |
| 18:00.21 | cahoot | lamah: try removing the .asoundrc |
| 18:00.41 | icefrog | maybe lsb_release is installed by something else, anotehr larger package? |
| 18:00.43 | icefrog | i did an ofline install |
| 18:00.43 | skutr3 | arand_: the only reason i downloaded this is because every time i try watch a youtube vid it says an error has occured |
| 18:00.50 | lamah | cahoot: without .asoundrc sound is goin' to my headphones |
| 18:00.51 | icefrog | i might not have everything a standard install does |
| 18:01.01 | lamah | cahoot: i need script to play my Optical sound |
| 18:01.12 | icefrog | i just grabbed the 6.0 image from stable |
| 18:01.15 | icefrog | dated feb 5th |
| 18:01.16 | lamah | cahoot: i have a optical sound with hi-fi home cinema audio system |
| 18:01.20 | skutr3 | arand_: i tried and it says error wrong architecture |
| 18:01.20 | cahoot | lamah: try removing the .asoundrc just for testing mixersetting wrt levels |
| 18:01.26 | arand_ | skutr3: Yes, You likely are using gnash, which does tend to work not-so-well with youtube |
| 18:01.27 | icefrog | i dont have a lsb_release |
| 18:01.32 | icefrog | but im sure its squeeze |
| 18:01.41 | lamah | cahoot: ok :) i think then it works, brb, secs. |
| 18:01.45 | arand_ | skutr3: Are you running 64bit? |
| 18:01.49 | Sevet | icefrog: it's on my squeeze by default, try the full path /usr/bin/lsb_release |
| 18:01.50 | skutr3 | arand_: yeah |
| 18:02.33 | Sevet | it's in the lsb-release package, check if that's installed with dpkg -l lsb-release |
| 18:02.34 | icefrog | i jsut grepped for it its not there |
| 18:02.38 | icefrog | oh |
| 18:02.41 | icefrog | ill instlal that |
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| 18:02.55 | arand_ | skutr3: In that case, I think the 64bit square version is a better choice, it's unreleased and presumably considered unfinished, but it is working currently for me at least |
| 18:03.19 | skutr3 | arand_: can you link me please? |
| 18:03.21 | arand_ | skutr3: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html you can get it from there |
| 18:03.23 | icefrog | Codename:squeeze |
| 18:03.26 | icefrog | got it now |
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| 18:03.28 | lamah | cahoot: yes, i know that.. without .asoundrc file, sound levels from mixers works! |
| 18:03.33 | icefrog | it wasnt installed on my system |
| 18:03.37 | icefrog | i jsut did a cd1 install offline |
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| 18:03.44 | lamah | cahoot: problem is from .asoundrc script ? |
| 18:03.57 | cahoot | lamah: seems so |
| 18:04.14 | lamah | hm i need to correct this |
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| 18:04.57 | cahoot | lamah: maybe seek advice in #alsa? |
| 18:04.57 | lamah | cahoot: for optical sound output playin option is only with alsa script ? |
| 18:05.02 | lamah | cahoot: yea! |
| 18:05.08 | lamah | cahoot: grea suggest |
| 18:05.09 | skutr3 | arand_: the only one is the .tar.gz |
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| 18:05.28 | lamah | cahoot: i mean in squeeze? |
| 18:05.29 | arand_ | skutr3: You then need to put the libflashplayer.so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ (e.g. /home/arand/.mozilla/plugins in my case) I think you will need to create the "plugins" folder... |
| 18:05.45 | skutr3 | arand_: ugh |
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| 18:05.57 | arand_ | skutr3: Yes it is an archive file, you need to unpack it with the archive manager |
| 18:06.00 | cahoot | lamah: out of my knowledge limitations |
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| 18:06.18 | arand_ | skutr3: should be a simple matter of clicking on the file in the file browser |
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| 18:06.31 | jwkokc | I've just installed squeeze via expert mode with the no-root option, using sudo instead; however the su-to-root script refuses my password although both sudo and gksudo accept it. How can I change this? |
| 18:06.32 | lamah | cahoot: ok thanks |
| 18:06.51 | skutr3 | arand_: an error has occured |
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| 18:07.19 | Coded1 | is there a way to install deb packages during a netinst? |
| 18:07.52 | skutr3 | arand_: http://i.imgur.com/MT4i3.png |
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| 18:08.14 | mityazzz | hi all, having a problem with installing debian stable to my laptop |
| 18:08.14 | jhutchins | jkyle: Backports is just getting started. |
| 18:08.15 | Coded1 | I need to install wireless_tools and I found the package I just don't have apt or dpkg installed at this point |
| 18:08.20 | mityazzz | I'm using usb install method |
| 18:08.27 | Siegfried | debian squeeze really rox, no more php zombie processes, a lot more stable etc.. it's really a great job :) |
| 18:08.41 | mityazzz | it's all ok, but my keyboard does not respond at the first menu (where I can choose install options) |
| 18:08.53 | themill | jwkokc: you perhaps need to tell gksu to use sudo mode rather than su mode |
| 18:08.57 | jhutchins | mityazzz: USB keyboard? |
| 18:09.01 | mityazzz | I've read that This seems to be especially common on laptops. Try booting with no APIC and no local APIC support ("boot: linux noapic nolapic"). |
| 18:09.01 | arand_ | skutr3: that sounds like the file didnn't download correctly, maybe? |
| 18:09.09 | mityazzz | jhutchins: nope, laptop one |
| 18:09.20 | jwkokc | themill, how do i do that? |
| 18:09.21 | mityazzz | so: how do I use these noapic nolapic with *install* menu |
| 18:09.28 | skutr3 | arand_: idk should i delete and download again? |
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| 18:09.34 | themill | jwkokc: "/msg dpkg gksu" for how you could do that in lenny; I can't tell you if that works in squeeze or not.... |
| 18:09.42 | mityazzz | If I had normal grub, i'd simply press my ESC button and choose... |
| 18:09.43 | arand_ | skutr3: Worth a try |
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| 18:09.57 | themill | jwkokc: or rather, you'll be able to tell me quite shortly whether that works in squeeze or not :) |
| 18:10.01 | skutr3 | arand_: ok |
| 18:10.31 | skutr3 | arand_: same error |
| 18:10.38 | jwkokc | themill, dpkg just said "gksu" and nothing more. |
| 18:10.50 | mityazzz | so how do I pass options to kernel, while booting for installation? from network-images, for example?? is it possible? |
| 18:10.55 | aguitel | is there something wrong with autologin in gdm3 ? |
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| 18:11.49 | jhutchins | mityazzz: Is there a "kernel options" or "boot options" menu? |
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| 18:12.33 | mityazzz | jhutchins: this is the very first menu, you see when installing a brand new system: where you choose "install" or "expert install" |
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| 18:13.00 | arand_ | skutr3: Hmm, it works fine for me http://imagebin.org/136976 |
| 18:13.01 | jhutchins | mityazzz: I don't run the installer very often... |
| 18:13.12 | mityazzz | so the keyboard just does not respond, and I don't know how to pass this noapic option, before that menu appears |
| 18:13.19 | jwkokc | themill, got the message from dpkg, did what it suggested, no change to the problem. Still rejects my password. Nextg question: how do I edit the Applications menu? |
| 18:13.30 | mityazzz | jhutchins: me too, but just wanted to put fresh debian to my laptop :( |
| 18:13.34 | jhutchins | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree --arch amd64 |
| 18:13.36 | judd | Package flashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8.2; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.8.3~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8.3; wheezy/contrib: 1:2.8.3 |
| 18:13.45 | smacnay | how do I alter the theme of my notification pop up in gnome? |
| 18:13.45 | skutr3 | arand_: it doesnt let me extract or anything |
| 18:14.44 | jhutchins | skutr3: Try the debian package instead. |
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| 18:15.24 | Iridos | mityazzz, you said usb install? |
| 18:15.31 | skutr3 | jhutchins: where is that im trying to do a 64bit installl |
| 18:15.46 | mityazzz | Iridos: yep, that's it |
| 18:15.55 | jhutchins | skutr3: Doesn't matter. |
| 18:16.06 | mityazzz | Iridos: I downnloaded boot.im.gz , zcat it to /dev/sdX |
| 18:16.15 | skutr3 | jhutchins: ok how do i do it |
| 18:16.21 | mityazzz | Iridos: and also got business card image to that flash |
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| 18:16.36 | mityazzz | it used to work fine before, but now the keyboard failed |
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| 18:18.04 | jhutchins | skutr3: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:18.21 | jhutchins | skutr3: aptitude install -t lenny-backports flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 18:18.28 | jhutchins | skutr3: Sorry, first one's wrong. |
| 18:18.38 | jhutchins | skutr3: Or for squeeze. |
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| 18:20.13 | arand | Is the flashplugin-installer good for 64bit, or doees that one use the 32bit with a wrapper still? |
| 18:20.18 | Iridos | mityazzz, actually I think you can just put regular boot options after the name, like... "expert init=/bin/bash" or so... but I also don't use the installer very often - and this might conflict with some hacks for preseeding http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en#preseed-bootparms |
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| 18:21.06 | themill | jwkokc: have a a look at man su-to-root; that gives you a config file and the ability to get su-to-root to use gksudo directly rather than gksu |
| 18:21.15 | mityazzz | Iridos: ok, thank you. but... the problem, is that the keyboard does not respond, so I cant type anything :) even choose the install menu. |
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| 18:21.33 | mityazzz | maybe it's becourse of different kernel types for boot image and iso.. |
| 18:21.35 | Iridos | mityazzz, as this is usb and writable anyway, I wondered if there's a possibility to specify them in the preseeding file, too... |
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| 18:21.54 | Iridos | mityazzz, oh, I thought that happens after loading the kernel? |
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| 18:22.07 | mityazzz | Iridos: wow, that's probably what I need? what file? |
| 18:22.09 | Iridos | mityazzz, before loading the kernel, the bios should take care about the keyboard? |
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| 18:22.33 | jhutchins | Iridos: "should" is such a slippery word... |
| 18:22.35 | mityazzz | Iridos: hmm I choose loading with usb stick (that menu, keyboard works), press enter |
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| 18:22.46 | jwkokc | themill, already did that, created the files, but it's not making any difference. For instance, I can "gksudo bum" from Terminal and it works, but selecting the "bum" item from the "System" menu fails. |
| 18:22.50 | Iridos | also, did you look in the bios menu, if there are some options that might change things? |
| 18:22.54 | mityazzz | the screen blinks... I get debian installation menu... keyboard does not respond |
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| 18:23.41 | mityazzz | ok, thx anyway, will try to press esc button before the booting =) maybe it will work... |
| 18:23.46 | Iridos | jhutchins, indeed... but this is not something I can easily try on my system at home (I could if I had a vm and would run a installer image on it... but as I didn't have that set up, testing would be a bit tedious and so I'm reduced to guessing... just like you |
| 18:23.49 | themill | jwkokc: what does "su-to-root bum" do when you run it from the command line? |
| 18:23.54 | Iridos | well, guessing and availabel documentation |
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| 18:24.15 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.21 | jhutchins | Sorry, cat. |
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| 18:24.59 | avis | i'm getting sound in everything except banshee |
| 18:25.01 | avis | any ideas ? |
| 18:25.19 | Iridos | jelly, cat! |
| 18:25.36 | Iridos | avis, aoss banshee? |
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| 18:25.54 | avis | do i need alsa oss support for banshee ? |
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| 18:26.33 | avis | any way to install a more recent version of banshee on debian ? |
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| 18:27.23 | jwkokc | themill, it says "Using su..." and asks for the root password. Apparently the config variables are not getting set! |
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| 18:27.54 | Iridos | avis, I meant run the command with "aoss" in front |
| 18:28.02 | Iridos | !aoss |
| 18:28.02 | dpkg | i guess aoss is a wrapper script to make programs use of the ALSA OSS compatibility library. It just sets the appropriate LD_PRELOAD path and then runs the command. |
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| 18:28.20 | akssps011 | what is the name of development package of gpsd in debian ? |
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| 18:28.24 | morsik | hello |
| 18:28.38 | morsik | i just upgraded debian to squeeze, and i have problem with php. |
| 18:28.59 | pfrog | is there a lxc-debian script that installs squeeze? |
| 18:29.12 | morsik | when i open for eg. phppgadmin, login into it, i see tables/schemes/etc. but when i click somewhere, it asks me again for username pass... |
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| 18:29.48 | Sevet | akssps001: if it's not a library it won't have one - do 'apt-get source gpsd' to get its source |
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| 18:30.03 | morsik | session works in php, they are writing to /var/lib/php5/, i checked also lifetime in php.ini... everything looks ok |
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| 18:30.24 | Sevet | looks like it uses libgps17 though, that has libgps-dev |
| 18:31.08 | akssps011 | Sevet: ah thanks |
| 18:32.00 | avis | is there a simple compiz manager so i can get window shading and maybe wobbly thats all |
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| 18:34.16 | Iridos | wobbly windows... sounds like an u-word release |
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| 18:37.30 | Sia- | hi |
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| 18:37.59 | Sia- | its any way to save changes during the boot menu? |
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| 18:38.19 | jwkokc | themill, i finally gave up and set a password for root rather than keep fighting it. thanks for trying! |
| 18:38.26 | Sia- | i mean during boot the debian |
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| 18:41.05 | jhutchins | Sia-: Which release? |
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| 18:41.58 | Sia- | jhujhiti, lenny |
| 18:41.59 | avis | do people actually use iceweasel ? |
| 18:42.13 | daemonkeeper | Why not? |
| 18:42.16 | stew | avis: of course. |
| 18:42.28 | avis | is there a nicer icon for it ? |
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| 18:43.18 | jhutchins | avis: You are welcome to create one suited to your own asthetics. |
| 18:43.45 | avis | i'm not gifted i steal art. kidding. |
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| 18:48.47 | ilofsalf | I just installed debian squeeze and I'm googling a bit about hdmi audio but can't find anything relevant and it isn't working, getting no sound from my ati card to my hdtv |
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| 18:48.58 | ilofsalf | any ideas on how to get it working? |
| 18:49.01 | rafaelsoaresbr | hello, can someone help me -> rfkill: command not found on Debian Lenny |
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| 18:49.10 | SparFux | What would be the password for a phpldapadmin installation? Where can I fix the password as root? |
| 18:49.22 | SparFux | locked himself out again by forgetting password. |
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| 18:50.03 | Sia- | if booting the debian i can edit the boot menu with tab or e |
| 18:50.15 | Sia- | now what is if want to save changes? |
| 18:50.16 | jordanm | SparFux: check the README.Debian |
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| 18:50.30 | jordanm | Sia-: what version of grub? |
| 18:50.37 | Sia- | 2 |
| 18:50.38 | jordanm | Sia-: and what change are you making? |
| 18:50.53 | Sia- | removing quit in kernel line |
| 18:50.55 | stew | rafaelsoaresbr: that's expected, the package was never in lenny, it is in squeeze, however |
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| 18:51.06 | jordanm | Sia-: edit that from /etc/default/grub and run "update-grub" |
| 18:51.11 | rafaelsoaresbr | stew, okay, thanks |
| 18:51.32 | Sia- | jordanm, i can't log in the system, that is way i'm her :) |
| 18:51.40 | Sia- | to let me start the machine |
| 18:51.49 | JyZyXEL | when doing lenny-> squeeze there was an error about the new depency based boot script thingy, what was the executable it wanted me to run after correcting the problems? |
| 18:51.53 | jordanm | Sia-: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT value |
| 18:52.00 | rafaelsoaresbr | ilofsalf, have you changed the default audio output? |
| 18:52.14 | jordanm | JyZyXEL: try dpkg-reconfigure insserv |
| 18:52.31 | stew | jordanm: dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc |
| 18:52.35 | stew | err |
| 18:52.42 | jordanm | that would have been my next guess :) |
| 18:52.42 | stew | JyZyXEL: ^^ |
| 18:52.45 | Sia- | jordanm, i think you misunderstood me thnx , any one else? |
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| 18:53.11 | jordanm | Sia-: oh, you can't save the changes from there, but you can hit "b" to boot |
| 18:53.15 | JyZyXEL | yeah that was it |
| 18:53.19 | jordanm | Sia-: (wiht the changes) |
| 18:53.27 | ilofsalf | no rafaelsoaresbr, is that something to do in an alsa config file? or is debian using pulseaudio? I'm new to debian so sorry for the newbish questions ;) |
| 18:53.38 | JyZyXEL | did i miss it or was there no chapter about this on the release notes? |
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| 18:53.59 | JyZyXEL | in chapter 4 about upgrading |
| 18:54.10 | skutr3 | can someone hlep me with my java please? |
| 18:54.12 | JyZyXEL | i don't remember anything being mentioned about thi |
| 18:54.17 | stew | JyZyXEL: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#dependency-boot |
| 18:54.31 | jhutchins | Sia-: You can change the grub configuration once the system is booted or by mounting the filesystem from another system. |
| 18:54.47 | Sia- | i want to save changes during the boot |
| 18:54.54 | JyZyXEL | stew: but it doesn't talk about how its gonna fail when upgrading from lenny to squeeze |
| 18:55.04 | JyZyXEL | if you have init scripts that don't support it |
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| 18:55.34 | stew | JyZyXEL: sure, but the maintianer scripts tell you, and if it fails, there isn't a big negative consequence, you just stick with the previous boot order |
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| 18:55.50 | Sia- | jhutchins, i mneed save the changes during the boot? capito? |
| 18:55.57 | jordanm | Sia-: you can only boot with the changes you have made, you can not save them from grub. in order to save them permantly, you need to boot the system or chroot into the system from a livecd |
| 18:56.05 | jhutchins | Sia-: I don't believe that is possible. |
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| 18:57.01 | Sia- | and how to go to comand line andrunning sudo? |
| 18:57.02 | rafaelsoaresbr | ilofsalf, are you using gnome? Go to System -> Preferences -> Sound |
| 18:57.13 | ilofsalf | I'm using xfce |
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| 18:57.26 | SparFux | jordanm: I don't get a clue from this file. |
| 18:57.34 | jhutchins | Sia-: You can log in to a console as root, or use su - from a GUI console. |
| 18:58.07 | jordanm | SparFux: then it probably uses the creds for mysql users. dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 |
| 18:58.11 | fabbb | Hi. I'm trying to re-install xserver-xorg but there is something broken: http://paste.debian.net/107077 -> Could someone please give me a suggest on how to solve this problem? I'm using sid. Thanks. |
| 18:58.19 | Sia- | i told you i cant log in GUI, i need use same command without graphic |
| 18:58.49 | stew | fabbb: i think this is expected becuase a bunch of unmaintained xorg packages were removed earlier this week |
| 18:58.50 | jordanm | Sia-: what command? I didn't give any command that requires a graphical environment. what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:59.08 | rafaelsoaresbr | ilofsalf, So, in terminal type: alsamixer |
| 18:59.18 | jhutchins | Sia-: Then log in as root. |
| 18:59.26 | Sia- | and how? |
| 18:59.30 | fabbb | stew, argh! and now? I need xserver-xorg! |
| 18:59.31 | jhutchins | Sia-: Or if you're already logged in, use su - to become root. |
| 19:00.02 | Sia- | is just a boot menu, how can became the shell |
| 19:00.10 | stew | fabbb: the packages removed are still available from other suites |
| 19:00.13 | jordanm | Sia-: you have to boot into the OS |
| 19:00.20 | Iridos | fabbb, that's pretty expected... did you try to use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 19:00.21 | stew | fabbb: btw, welcome to unstable, enjoy your stay |
| 19:00.25 | jordanm | Sia-: what version of debian is this? |
| 19:00.31 | jhutchins | Sia-: You can not make permanent changes from the boot menu. You can not log in. |
| 19:00.38 | fabbb | stew, :-) |
| 19:00.48 | fabbb | Iridos, yes yes, but nothing changed. |
| 19:00.49 | Sia- | jordanm, again lenny |
| 19:01.03 | jordanm | Sia-: you are using grub2 in lenny? |
| 19:01.09 | Sia- | yes |
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| 19:01.45 | jordanm | Sia-: you could try telling us what the actual problem is |
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| 19:03.26 | ilofsalf | I'm in alsamixer now rafaelsoaresbr |
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| 19:05.42 | ilofsalf | http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/2310/hdmi-ati-hda-sound-how-i-got-hdmi-sound-working-in/ |
| 19:05.46 | rafaelsoaresbr | ilofsalf, type <F6> to choose the default audio output |
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| 19:05.59 | ilofsalf | I got it working by following that, but how do I change so it defaults to the hdmi? |
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| 19:07.26 | ilofsalf | it doesn't seem to use the one I choose with F6 as the default, only works when specifying the device with the plughw thing in aplay |
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| 19:09.53 | ilofsalf | lol, should kept reading it says what to put in /etc/asound.conf :P |
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| 19:10.26 | Tekku | boa tarde pessoal |
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| 19:11.02 | deego | When upgrading a stable debian to squeeze, I keep getting "packages can not be authenticated." I didn't use to get this warning. I do have debian-keyring installed, and upgradet to the latest. |
| 19:11.17 | stew | deego: you need debian-archive-keyring |
| 19:11.25 | deego | stew: thanks. |
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| 19:11.43 | stew | deego: (and then you'd need to apt-get update again before it is used) |
| 19:11.46 | sako | hey guys i just got debian6, uncommenting contrib and non-free i get: Err http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates/non-free Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.212 80] |
| 19:11.54 | sako | anyone know whats up with that? |
| 19:12.00 | deego | stew: It says: debian-archive-keyring is already the newest version. And I did apt-get update recently. |
| 19:12.00 | deego | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.27 | ilofsalf | sweet now it's working, thanks for your time rafaelsoaresbr :) |
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| 19:13.44 | jhutchins | sako: Probably just that there's nothing there yet. |
| 19:13.52 | sako | ah i see |
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| 19:14.03 | sako | ya looks like its the security updates for the non-free stuff |
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| 19:15.26 | jhutchins | I would think that any existing security updates would have been rolled into the release, but I'm not positive of that. |
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| 19:15.57 | deego | stew: Sorry, apt-get update fixed the problem. |
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| 19:21.12 | _jesse_ | I'm having some issues with connecting to a wireless network; I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone could take a peek at http://pastebin.com/e9VQfeVf (output of syslog) and see if anything jumps out at them |
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| 19:21.36 | _jesse_ | this rt2860 chipset has been nothing but trouble with ubuntu and debian |
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| 19:22.33 | jhutchins | !tell _jesse_ about rt2860 |
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| 19:24.07 | jhutchins | _jesse_: What kind of encryption are you using? What did you use to set up the link? |
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| 19:25.06 | _jesse_ | jhutchins: I'm looking at the link now; the AP I'm trying to connect too has no encryption |
| 19:25.23 | fabbb | ok solved. I get the pkg manually, installed them via dkpg and after with aptitude update I reinstall all xserver-* packages. |
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| 19:26.03 | _jesse_ | jhutchins: though in the past that has worked while the 802.1x connection has not |
| 19:26.29 | ZykoticK9 | _jesse_, i'm not sure if you have no encryption by "wpa_supplicant" would be involved in establishing the wireless connection? Seem odd. |
| 19:26.49 | ZykoticK9 | s/by/why/ |
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| 19:27.02 | pfrog | where do I set the host name in debian |
| 19:27.18 | pfrog | is it just in /etc/hostname ? |
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| 19:27.33 | jhutchins | !hostname |
| 19:27.33 | dpkg | Use "hostname foo" to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', /etc/mailname. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
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| 19:28.05 | gajbooks | I have a problem |
| 19:28.10 | gajbooks | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4252107#post4252107 |
| 19:28.20 | _jesse_ | ZykoticK9: mmm I see that too, no idea |
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| 19:28.50 | _jesse_ | jhutchins: I uninstalled and reinstalled the two packages listed on the link; didn't help though |
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| 19:29.36 | Corin | Hi. I'm a bit confused about setting up the network during the Debian install. :o |
| 19:29.44 | Xenguy | gajbooks: Considered trying 'squeeze', which is now current stable? |
| 19:30.03 | utrrrongeeb | Is it possible to reinstall Debian without formatting the partition, to retain /home? |
| 19:30.04 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: yes |
| 19:30.09 | gajbooks | It wont even load the installer |
| 19:30.24 | gajbooks | Squeeze wont |
| 19:30.50 | Corin | How do I set up my network during the Debian install? |
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| 19:31.36 | Iridos | utrrrongeeb, should be trivial if /home is on a separate partition |
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| 19:31.43 | _jesse_ | Corin: it should try to set it up automatically iirc, make sure you have an ethernet cord plugged in |
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| 19:31.45 | Iridos | utrrrongeeb, and rather not advisable if not |
| 19:31.59 | Corin | Hmm. |
| 19:32.02 | Corin | Ok, _jesse_. |
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| 19:33.21 | gajbooks | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4252107#post4252107 |
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| 19:34.18 | deego | Wow, gnome-desktop-environment somehow depends on apache2.2-bin, even when I disable "recommends." |
| 19:35.04 | utrrrongeeb | Iridos, _jesse_: It isn't, which is why I ask. It's a desktop, originally Sarge, and upgraded twice -- so between the legacy hacks and the useless-packages bloat, I though a clean slate would be best. (It's in a dual-boot setup; Debian is the minimally-used hobby OS.) |
| 19:36.00 | utrrrongeeb | s/though/thought |
| 19:36.12 | utrrrongeeb | (except for /home, /root, and /opt) |
| 19:36.17 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: ah I see, well you should move /home to a separate partition then |
| 19:37.13 | SparFux | jordanm: ok, in mysql.user there is no user admin, which I used once for my phpldapadmin. |
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| 19:37.41 | _jesse_ | jhutchins: don't suppose you have any other suggestions? |
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| 19:38.03 | utrrrongeeb | _jess_: hdb presently has three, in ext3 (Debian), FAT, and NTFS -- I don't know much about partition resizing, though. |
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| 19:38.44 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: you sohuld resize the partition then :) or just back /home elsewhere |
| 19:40.02 | utrrrongeeb | _jesse_: That's probably the solution I was hoping to avoid |
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| 19:41.26 | Corin | So... |
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| 19:41.56 | Corin | When it gets to the network configuring point on the installer, it asks for hostname... |
| 19:42.00 | Corin | What do I put there? |
| 19:42.14 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: then resize and repartition |
| 19:42.18 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: Do you have a home network? |
| 19:42.21 | Corin | Yes. |
| 19:42.33 | _jesse_ | Corin: whatever you want the computer to be identified by |
| 19:42.37 | drexl | anyting u want |
| 19:42.37 | Corin | Ok. |
| 19:42.46 | Corin | Can I change this later? |
| 19:42.54 | _jesse_ | yeah |
| 19:43.11 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: It can cause some minor difficulties |
| 19:43.14 | Corin | What do I put as my domain name? |
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| 19:43.27 | Boter | which firewall is best for my server? |
| 19:43.41 | _jesse_ | though as utrrrongeeb notes; I'd just pick a good one now |
| 19:43.46 | abrotman | Boter: iptables |
| 19:43.47 | _jesse_ | Corin: whatever you want |
| 19:43.51 | Corin | There are other computers on the network though. |
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| 19:44.03 | Sevet | is there any way in /etc/network/interfaces to set additional routes on an interface? or should i make my own if-up.d script? |
| 19:44.04 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: Are any of them *nix? |
| 19:44.05 | drexl | Boter: do u want my iptables script? |
| 19:44.05 | _jesse_ | Corin: pick whatever domain they are usign then |
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| 19:44.24 | Corin | I don't know what domain they're using. |
| 19:44.42 | skutr3 | im trying to drag the flashplugin.so to to plugins directory but i get an error can anyone help? |
| 19:44.50 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: is there a default -- localhost.localdomain or something? |
| 19:44.56 | _jesse_ | Corin: are any of them *nix based? |
| 19:45.01 | Corin | No. |
| 19:45.09 | _jesse_ | then it doesn't matter |
| 19:45.11 | Corin | Ok. |
| 19:45.13 | _jesse_ | just pick one |
| 19:45.23 | skutr3 | im trying to drag the flashplugin.so to to plugins directory but i get an error can anyone help? |
| 19:45.32 | Corin | Can I change my domain later? |
| 19:45.35 | Corin | If needed? |
| 19:45.40 | _jesse_ | probably |
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| 19:46.06 | skutr3 | im trying to drag the flashplugin.so to the plugins directory but i get an error can anyone help? |
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| 19:46.37 | utrrrongeeb | _jesse_: Okay, I'll deal with it [the partitions]. GParted is only in Squeeze, so I'll have to find a LiveCD.... |
| 19:46.49 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: Which plugins directory? |
| 19:47.05 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: Chrome's |
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| 19:47.36 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: sounds good; it can take a while depending on the partition size and how full they are |
| 19:47.41 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: the error is Permission denied even though im super use |
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| 19:47.52 | XLV | skutr3, probably permissions error |
| 19:47.57 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: This would be the system plugins folder? |
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| 19:48.07 | skutr3 | XLV: it is but im super user |
| 19:48.18 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: Are you using a file manager [Nautilus, Konqueror, etc] or a terminal? |
| 19:48.29 | drexl | Boter: do u want my iptables script for a web server? |
| 19:48.42 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins |
| 19:48.51 | XLV | skutr3, doesnt matter.. you need to set files attributes as root.root, before you can copy it there |
| 19:48.57 | Corin | Alright... |
| 19:48.58 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: default one with squeeze |
| 19:49.04 | Corin | Now the partitioning is confusing me. |
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| 19:49.20 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: You're using GNOME, so it's Nautilus? |
| 19:49.33 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: i guess |
| 19:49.36 | XLV | skutr3, and also, you dont want to copy some plugin in there.. use the home config dir of chrome |
| 19:49.37 | _jesse_ | Corin: just use the guided partitioning if it's confusing |
| 19:49.53 | skutr3 | XLV: huh? |
| 19:50.00 | utrrrongeeb | XLV: Can you tell skutr3 where that is? I don't use Chrome |
| 19:50.19 | Corin | _jesse_: The guided partitioning is the thing that's confusing me. |
| 19:50.29 | XLV | utrrrongeeb, i dont use it either. but i guess it should have one as any unix app |
| 19:50.32 | Corin | It wants to use the entire disk. |
| 19:50.33 | _jesse_ | Corin: what part exactly? |
| 19:50.39 | XLV | somethig like .chrome or something, idk |
| 19:50.39 | _jesse_ | sure |
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| 19:50.54 | skutr3 | XLV: ok im lost |
| 19:50.54 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: Is it going to be dual-boot? [ie does it have Windows on it as well?] |
| 19:51.13 | Corin | It has Windows and Kubuntu partitions. |
| 19:51.16 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: In your home folder, do you have a .chrome or .chromium folder? |
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| 19:51.22 | drexl | Corin: Don't use the entire disk u need a swap space and a home partition for your settings. |
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| 19:51.37 | Corin | drexl: I know! |
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| 19:51.43 | utrrrongeeb | Corin: Do you have a partition for Debian, or a separate drive? |
| 19:51.43 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: no its usr/lib/chromium-browser |
| 19:51.47 | Flaim | isit just me, or did squeeze change the way sudo works? |
| 19:51.50 | _jesse_ | Corin: it should have a 'use largest available space' option |
| 19:51.57 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: Have you run Chrome yet? |
| 19:52.03 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: yes |
| 19:52.09 | Corin | Ah. |
| 19:52.11 | Corin | Never mind. |
| 19:52.11 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: im on it right now |
| 19:52.14 | Corin | I figured it out. |
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| 19:52.27 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: In your home folder, do you *have* a folder called .chrome or .chromium? |
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| 19:52.53 | jasond`` | anybody know how to fix "The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-input-2"? |
| 19:52.55 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: no |
| 19:53.02 | Flaim | when I run 'sudo tcsh' it used to just run my own dotfiles, now it runs the dotfiles from /root |
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| 19:53.10 | XLV | skutr3, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51590 |
| 19:53.12 | Corin | Just halved one of my existing partitions. :) |
| 19:53.17 | drexl | Corin: give yourself about 12 gigs for debian and 2 gigs for swap and the rest is /home |
| 19:53.20 | _jesse_ | skutr3: it'll be hidden by default use `ls -a` |
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| 19:53.27 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: It's not hidden? [it'd be /home/skutr3/.chromium or something like that] |
| 19:53.28 | XLV | skutr3, Unpack it and put the .so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (or something like that) from where Google Chrome will pick it up. |
| 19:53.45 | XLV | utrrrongeeb, no, as i see, it should be installed in /usr/lib |
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| 19:54.12 | XLV | skutr3, but chrome should pick up mozilla's flash plugin by itself automatically |
| 19:54.19 | skutr3 | ok |
| 19:54.19 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: I don't know for Nautilus -- usually in the View menu there's a "show hidden files" option; sometimes Ctrl-H. Or as suggested, in a terminal the command is 'ls -a' |
| 19:54.36 | _jesse_ | utrrrongeeb: actually mine is under .config/chromium -- no plugins though |
| 19:54.42 | skutr3 | XLV: ive already ran it for the first time though and gotten rid of icewesel |
| 19:54.44 | _jesse_ | just configuration files |
| 19:54.55 | utrrrongeeb | _jesse_: Well that might explain it.... |
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| 19:55.21 | Iridos | what I don't know is why he's doing this, as there's a perfectly fine package that will install the flash plugin in the right place |
| 19:55.30 | AbortRetryFail | Anyone here familiar with debian on SPARC systems? |
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| 19:55.51 | AbortRetryFail | I've got a Sun Netra X1 that keeps spamming the console with netdev watchdog errors |
| 19:55.52 | skutr3 | XLV: same error |
| 19:56.11 | XLV | skutr3, what error is that? |
| 19:56.22 | skutr3 | XLV: permissions |
| 19:56.37 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: Right-click the folder, "Properties," look for a "Permissions" tab |
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| 19:57.07 | Iridos | also, if this is as root...wouldn't he have to have the partition mounted roß |
| 19:57.09 | XLV | skutr3, open a shell, do a ls -al <filename of flash.so>, see what permissions it has |
| 19:57.18 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: still no .chrome after revealing hidden folders |
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| 19:57.41 | Flaim | found it.. |
| 19:58.14 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: As _jesse_ said, it seems Chrome config files are under .config/. So see what the permissions are for the system plugins folder (unless Iridos's solution is preferable) |
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| 19:58.33 | _jesse_ | skutr3: as Iridos notes, did you try just installing the package? |
| 19:58.48 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: i found the properties and it says im not the owner |
| 19:59.09 | drexl | Corin: skutr3: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
| 19:59.10 | utrrrongeeb | skutr3: Of the system plugins folder? Are you root? |
| 19:59.21 | drexl | skutr3: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
| 19:59.40 | skutr3 | utrrrongeeb: idk |
| 19:59.50 | XLV | skutr3, dont worry about config dir of chrome inside home dir.. plugins should be installed in the dir you mentioned |
| 19:59.51 | Iridos | skutr3, lenny or squeeze |
| 20:00.30 | utrrrongeeb | Iridos: Change of guidelines? |
| 20:00.40 | XLV | skutr3, still, you need to open a shell, go to usr/lib/< dir with mozilla plugins> and do a ls -al libflashplayer.so |
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| 20:01.56 | utrrrongeeb | XLV: Shouldn't the permissions of the plugins folder be examined? |
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| 20:01.57 | mohadib | howdy |
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| 20:02.04 | mohadib | why does debain come with so many user accounts? |
| 20:02.09 | Iridos | utrrrongeeb, debian multimedia for lenny is gone... (which had one flashplayer package), but there's still the squeeze one in lenny-backports/contrib |
| 20:02.14 | XLV | skutr3, then copy it to usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/ using cp -f |
| 20:02.15 | mohadib | like irc,news,uucp etc? |
| 20:02.21 | XLV | utrrrongeeb, its all root.root |
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| 20:02.58 | _jesse_ | mohadib: for its personal enjoyment |
| 20:03.00 | utrrrongeeb | Iridos: He'd have to set up backports/contrib |
| 20:03.04 | toropisco | skutr3: to install a local flashplayer plugin, copy it to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins. |
| 20:03.09 | mohadib | can i get rid of them all |
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| 20:03.15 | mohadib | i mean having an irc user is awesome |
| 20:03.18 | _jesse_ | mohadib: no |
| 20:03.19 | mohadib | dont get me wrong |
| 20:03.20 | mohadib | but... |
| 20:03.22 | mohadib | right |
| 20:03.26 | utrrrongeeb | XLV: but if the plugins folder is r-xr-xr-x.... |
| 20:03.29 | mohadib | im sure deb needs the irc account |
| 20:03.30 | _jesse_ | some program might need it |
| 20:03.32 | mohadib | or it will explode |
| 20:03.35 | mohadib | so |
| 20:03.36 | skutr3_ | XLV: Iridos: dont know what happened there |
| 20:03.39 | mohadib | short of it is you dont know |
| 20:03.41 | _jesse_ | you never know |
| 20:03.47 | mohadib | you either :) |
| 20:03.54 | _jesse_ | Squeeze is sentient |
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| 20:04.00 | mohadib | lol |
| 20:04.01 | _jesse_ | and needs to be able to IRC |
| 20:04.02 | XLV | utrrrongeeb, its writable by root, in my case at least |
| 20:04.06 | mohadib | aight, thanks ;) |
| 20:04.07 | skutr3_ | wth |
| 20:04.10 | _jesse_ | or it gets lonely |
| 20:04.11 | _jesse_ | :P |
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| 20:04.24 | utrrrongeeb | mohadib: It's for servers...to enforce security. [I think?] |
| 20:04.28 | skutr3_ | ok i cant copy the .so to the crhome plugins |
| 20:04.37 | mohadib | utrrrongeeb: eh? |
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| 20:04.45 | mohadib | so the irc user account is to enforce security? |
| 20:04.56 | _jesse_ | mohadib: if the groups are empty you can probably delete them, but otherwise I'd leave them |
| 20:05.05 | gajbooks | I have a problem installing dwbian |
| 20:05.09 | drexl | skutr3_: sudo to root first |
| 20:05.11 | gajbooks | Debian |
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| 20:05.18 | Corin | Should I make a separate /home partition? |
| 20:05.24 | _jesse_ | Corin: yep |
| 20:05.28 | Corin | Or all files in one partition? |
| 20:05.35 | drexl | Corin: Yes definitley |
| 20:05.42 | skutr3_ | drexl: how do i move a file using the terminal |
| 20:05.45 | Iridos | utrrrongeeb, that's how it goes |
| 20:05.49 | Corin | Alright. |
| 20:05.51 | Corin | Thanks. |
| 20:05.52 | _jesse_ | Corin: make /home a seperate partition -- eases re-installation should it be necessary |
| 20:06.05 | Corin | Took forever just to resize. lol |
| 20:06.21 | utrrrongeeb | sorry, I have to leave. Thanks Iridos, _jesse_. |
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| 20:06.53 | skutr3_ | drexl: ? |
| 20:06.59 | drexl | skutr3_: cd /path/to/pluggin then cp flashplggin.so /usr/lib/crom.../pluggins |
| 20:07.04 | Corin | Ok... now there's a /, /home and swap partition. |
| 20:08.01 | gajbooks | To move files mv /somefolder/somefile /anotherfolder/ |
| 20:08.07 | Corin | :) |
| 20:08.12 | drexl | skutr3_: I'll detail it and post it for you, just a few minutes. |
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| 20:09.09 | gajbooks | Can anyone help me? |
| 20:09.38 | _jesse_ | gajbooks: I'm not sure what your question is |
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| 20:09.48 | stew | gajbooks: if you have a question just ask it |
| 20:09.50 | gajbooks | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4252107#post4252107 |
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| 20:10.28 | mohadib | _jesse_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch12.en.html#s-faq-os-users |
| 20:10.31 | mohadib | fwiw |
| 20:11.42 | stew | gajbooks: is there a reason you are trying to install lenny instead of squeeze? |
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| 20:12.01 | gajbooks | Squeeze wont even load the installer |
| 20:12.34 | stew | gajbooks: which installer did you download? |
| 20:12.55 | gajbooks | XFCE cd 1 ppc |
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| 20:13.08 | Bartzy | Hi |
| 20:13.27 | Bartzy | How can I make sure that mail that I send from my MTA doesn't go in people's spam folder ? |
| 20:13.40 | Bartzy | Any kind of guide ? I know of SPF and SenderID, but what about DKIM and that stuff ? |
| 20:13.50 | _jesse_ | mohadib: interesting, thank you |
| 20:14.59 | drexl | skutr3_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/565147/ |
| 20:15.12 | gajbooks | Should i try an older version of lenny and see if that works? |
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| 20:16.47 | stew | gajbooks: i think you should figure out why squeeze doesn't work |
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| 20:17.04 | Corin | Should I install GRUB if I already have it? What's LILO? |
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| 20:17.42 | SparFux | where are ldap passwords stored for openldap? |
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| 20:18.23 | gajbooks | Squeeze just shows some really dark text and the last line says rebooting in 180 seconds |
| 20:18.29 | drexl | Corin: grub is now grub2 and it's easy to update, but it's kinda like windows in the sense that it's not easily edited like menu.lst used to be, it's now grub.cfg |
| 20:18.35 | gajbooks | Please just help me with lenny |
| 20:18.35 | toropisco | gajbooks: you may want to try the installer here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/powerpc/ |
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| 20:18.48 | Corin | drexl: I mean, on the install menu... |
| 20:18.56 | gajbooks | I just want it for a server |
| 20:19.04 | drexl | Corin: I'd go with grub |
| 20:19.10 | Corin | It has options for install GRUB and install LILO or Continue without... |
| 20:19.12 | stew | gajbooks: if it is for a server, you dont' want the installer toropisco is pointing you to |
| 20:19.17 | Corin | drexl: But I already have GRUB... |
| 20:19.25 | Corin | From my other Linux partition. |
| 20:19.40 | toropisco | I seem to rembeber there was a small problem with several installers that should be solved with the first point release, in about a month. |
| 20:20.03 | drexl | Corin: that doesn't matter you still need it on the new install partition. |
| 20:20.08 | Corin | Ok. |
| 20:21.14 | toropisco | gajbooks: although it is testing installer, you can choose to install the stable distribution if you choose expert install. |
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| 20:29.04 | khaleel5000 | hi i have sid currently my sourcelist is : http://pastebin.com/busZ241m |
| 20:29.15 | bp0 | what happened to the framebuffer console penguins? |
| 20:29.17 | abrotman | what could go wrong ... |
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| 20:29.37 | khaleel5000 | when i do apt-get update it gives me following error : W: Failed to fetch http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/stable/Release please advise |
| 20:30.10 | daemonkeeper | bp0: Most recent kernels don't use framebuffer anymore (perhaps this is what you mean) but kms |
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| 20:31.03 | stew | khaleel5000: ask opera.com, it has nothing to do with us |
| 20:31.09 | bp0 | well, whatever GRUB_GFX_MODE turns on, framebuffer or kms |
| 20:31.14 | bp0 | still, i liked the penguins |
| 20:31.36 | Iridos | well, forget about penguins, global warming will eat them |
| 20:31.55 | daemonkeeper | bp0: Well, if you use KMS you won't see a penguin anymore. |
| 20:31.55 | SparFux | dpkg-reconfigure phpldapadmin gives me no single question. |
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| 20:32.36 | bp0 | daemonkeeper, thats terrible, why not? |
| 20:33.09 | daemonkeeper | bp0: Probably because noone reimplemented it? Also KMS starts a bit later than framebuffer in the bootprocess. |
| 20:33.24 | stew | someone should create a plymouth theme with the penguin |
| 20:34.06 | bp0 | how disappointing |
| 20:34.34 | daemonkeeper | bp0, I'm rather sure there are some splashy themes displaying a nice penguin. |
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| 20:35.16 | drexl | khaleel5000 one too many spaces between deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ experimental main |
| 20:35.18 | bp0 | not really the same though, is it |
| 20:35.31 | daemonkeeper | Not the same, no |
| 20:35.40 | drexl | khaleel5000: one too many spaces between deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ experimental main |
| 20:35.43 | stew | spaces there don't matter |
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| 20:36.13 | drexl | stew: O |
| 20:36.28 | drexl | i'm learning |
| 20:36.35 | daemonkeeper | bp0: Indeed there is discussion about this on d-d going on right now. Feel free to encourage people to bring a penguin back :) |
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| 20:37.26 | bp0 | what is d-d? |
| 20:37.38 | daemonkeeper | The debian-devel (mailinglist) |
| 20:37.46 | bp0 | oh, alright |
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| 20:37.59 | Iridos | save the penguin! |
| 20:38.12 | daemonkeeper | bp0: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/02/msg00174.html |
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| 20:39.09 | SparFux | simply doesn't work. damn. $servers->setValue('login','bind_pass','... seems to be ignored. |
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| 20:42.05 | phogg | When installing squeeze on a laptop I was prompted and asked whether or not to load firmware for the laptop's wireless NIC from external media. The firmware for the card is available in non-free, but I was not given the option to install from non-free. The question is: Who should get the bug report/feature request? |
| 20:43.05 | daemonkeeper | phogg: Its not a bug its a feature. |
| 20:43.10 | bp0 | daemonkeeper, well thanks for the info |
| 20:43.16 | khaleel5000 | stew: yeah but i havent added anything related to opera in my sourcelist, why is it demanding that? |
| 20:43.19 | daemonkeeper | phogg: really :p |
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| 20:43.35 | phogg | daemonkeeper: I know. Bug reports are used for requesting features, too |
| 20:43.47 | phogg | daemonkeeper: regardless, is this a debian-installer thing or something else? |
| 20:43.53 | stew | khaleel5000: my guess would be /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*somehting* |
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| 20:44.20 | daemonkeeper | A Debian "feature", phogg. So this is unlikely to be changed. Feel free to use unofficial images containing the firmware files. |
| 20:44.36 | daemonkeeper | phogg: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 20:44.51 | phogg | daemonkeeper: I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do it from netinst |
| 20:44.55 | SparFux | The readme is way too short. Anybody knows how phpldapadmin is supposed to auth users to apache / slapd? |
| 20:45.24 | phogg | daemonkeeper: if it's going to prompt for firmware at all it should allow me to fetch it from non-free, too. Who keeps his own firmware disks? |
| 20:45.28 | daemonkeeper | phogg: you can. Provide the necessary non-free firmware on a USB pen drive/floppy |
| 20:45.39 | khaleel5000 | stew: yeah has opera.list file, uncommented their link |
| 20:45.41 | phogg | daemonkeeper: seems silly |
| 20:46.15 | daemonkeeper | phogg: No one and I argue this too. This is a Debian Developer decision, to priorize a "free" kernel over one containing non-free firmware |
| 20:46.19 | stew | phogg: there are unofficial images which will have the non-free firmware, the official ones should not do this |
| 20:46.49 | phogg | daemonkeeper: then why does netinst prompt for non-free firmware from a disk? |
| 20:46.59 | daemonkeeper | phogg: It does |
| 20:47.02 | stew | phogg: would you prefer it didn't? |
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| 20:47.19 | phogg | stew: it should either not prompt or also allow a network install of that firmware |
| 20:47.36 | daemonkeeper | It gives you the possibility to install the firmware. It just does not ship it. |
| 20:47.38 | phogg | the whole reason I use netinst is to avoid fiddling with excessive media |
| 20:47.42 | stew | phogg: if you are on the network already, why not just install the firmware after the install is done? |
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| 20:48.22 | phogg | stew: I do, but it's "just one more step", plus I have to remember which firmware I need. The installer nicely tells me itself, and then throws that info away when I tell it I don't have a disk. |
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| 20:48.43 | stew | personally, i'd be happy if it didn't do this prompting for non-free firmware |
| 20:48.52 | sam1 | Hi there. I'm having issues with debian not allowing IP fowarding. i.e. I can't ssh in from outside my local network. I have check my router and all seems to be correct there |
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| 20:49.16 | daemonkeeper | phogg: This was a ideologic and political decision following the DFSG, so it is right. Yet it is pain for users affected, so I don't like /this/ particular decision. However, as said, I pointed you to non-free images. |
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| 20:49.23 | phogg | stew: that's what I would expect, and that would be okay. But if we're going half way why avoid a little more convenience. |
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| 20:50.00 | phogg | daemonkeeper: is there a "non-free netinst" disc? |
| 20:50.16 | stew | phogg: well, if you want. lookup any old threads on the debian-boot mailing list, read them, then decide if you should try to reinvigorate this dead horse for more beating |
| 20:50.20 | phogg | daemonkeeper: IIRC I was prompted with whether or not I wanted to include non-free sources, but later in the process |
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| 20:50.31 | phogg | stew: I'll do that |
| 20:50.37 | daemonkeeper | phogg: [21:44] <daemonkeeper> phogg: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 20:50.50 | stew | but the answer is almost certainly that you shouldn't, since its been well debated already |
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| 20:51.13 | daemonkeeper | phogg: Official images will prompt only. |
| 20:51.18 | phogg | daemonkeeper: I get the impression that the firmware is actually on that disk. Is that the difference? |
| 20:51.26 | daemonkeeper | yes. |
| 20:51.33 | daemonkeeper | This image contains your firmware already |
| 20:51.37 | phogg | stew: I meant I'll read the threads, I wouldn't want to bring it up again |
| 20:51.40 | daemonkeeper | So you can go on straightly. |
| 20:52.10 | stew | phogg: there are probably also threads on debian-devel and maybe debian-project |
| 20:52.25 | phogg | daemonkeeper: this seems like a silly division. I don't want "netinst that has firmware on it" I want "netinst that will net install firmware" since that makes most sense. |
| 20:52.31 | phogg | stew: thanks, I'll be searching |
| 20:52.40 | phogg | just as soon as I finish unb0rking my root fs |
| 20:53.04 | Boter | still looking for some nice firewall script ^^ |
| 20:53.07 | daemonkeeper | phogg: Well, I'm with you here. It was not my decision and I am not allowed to tell my opinion there being not a DD ;) |
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| 20:53.08 | Boter | don't say iptables |
| 20:53.18 | phogg | pro tip: if it asks "Root inode not a directory. Clear?" the answer should not be "yes" |
| 20:53.29 | Boter | it can have gui too (webpage nothing more) |
| 20:53.54 | phogg | Boter: real men use iptables (-;, but seriously there are many iptables rule builders which are (I hear) easy to use |
| 20:54.05 | stew | Boter: fwbuilder is a gui you can run on some machine that will write a script and deploy and run it on another machine |
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| 20:58.04 | sickn3ss | I forgot the bot command can someone link me the official repos for squeeze. |
| 20:58.50 | daemonkeeper | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/? |
| 20:58.50 | ksk | you mean sources.list entrys? |
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| 20:59.04 | sickn3ss | ksk, yea |
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| 20:59.22 | mityazzz | hi again. Can anybody tell me how do I *save* my settings for i915 module? |
| 20:59.49 | mityazzz | after each reboot I have to remove i915 module and modprobe it with modeset=1 to make kms work |
| 21:00.07 | mityazzz | I'd like to have it at boot time. |
| 21:00.09 | daemonkeeper | Feel free to add this ti /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf |
| 21:00.11 | daemonkeeper | *to |
| 21:00.28 | ksk | sickn3ss: im interested in this, too ;) |
| 21:00.34 | mityazzz | I've tried creating /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf, but it did not work :( |
| 21:01.00 | mityazzz | daemonkeeper: so, I have to add: i915 modeset=1 to .../options.conf? |
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| 21:01.14 | mityazzz | or i915.modeset=1? with dot after i915? |
| 21:01.16 | sickn3ss | hey guys can someone link us the official squeeze repos ? I forgot the command for the bot |
| 21:01.20 | daemonkeeper | That's ok too. It should contain something like "options i815 modeset=1" |
| 21:02.00 | ksk | sickn3ss: i use http://www.knubz.de/dl/sources.list |
| 21:02.11 | mityazzz | daemonkeeper: aaaaaaa so, I add to /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf a string "options i915 modeset=1" with quotes and word options? |
| 21:02.12 | ksk | sickn3ss: but not sure if i missed something ;) |
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| 21:02.26 | daemonkeeper | Without quotes but with word options |
| 21:02.35 | mityazzz | daemonkeeper: thx, will give a try. =) |
| 21:03.27 | sickn3ss | :) |
| 21:03.37 | Coded1 | I just downloaded a fresh netinst image and booted, I need wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant which are on the netinst CD under /cdrom/pool/main/w/ but I can't seem to be able to actually install them, I've gone through the install process as far as partioning, formatting, installing base system and package manager all without internet access but this step im not sure how the set up process in able to install packages |
| 21:03.38 | Coded1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.01 | daemonkeeper | Does d-i installer support WPA yet? |
| 21:04.03 | sickn3ss | Coded1, get a ethernet cable |
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| 21:04.38 | Coded1 | anyone else :) |
| 21:04.48 | daemonkeeper | This is what I think too, as far as I know d-i has no WPA support yet. |
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| 21:05.21 | Coded1 | as long as I can install those two packages I can get the connection going, I just need to know how to install those packages |
| 21:05.24 | stew | ksk: you are missing deb http://ftp.hosteurope.de/pub/linux/debian/ squeeze-updates main |
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| 21:06.55 | daemonkeeper | Coded1, wpa_supplicant is the Debian base install, if i'm not entirely wrong. You might try to install a full image, not netinst which requires network support. |
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| 21:07.59 | aguitel | where are the iceweasel cache ? |
| 21:08.47 | ksk | stew: thanks |
| 21:08.53 | Coded1 | daemonkeeper, the deb files are there but I can't get at them for some reason until the reboot, then I can make the connection but my /etc/apt/sources.list is practically empty and only shows cdrom sources |
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| 21:09.00 | stew | judd: priority wpasupplicant |
| 21:09.13 | stew | judd: info wpasupplicant |
| 21:09.15 | judd | Package wpasupplicant (net, optional) in squeeze/i386: client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). Version: 0.6.10-2.1; Size: 346.7k; Installed: 872k; Homepage: http://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/ |
| 21:09.21 | stew | "optional" means its not in the base install |
| 21:09.46 | stew | but I would expect it on cd1 regardless |
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| 21:10.21 | Coded1 | if I go through the set up via netinst with out any network it does install it but I cant seem to run it until the box reboots |
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| 21:10.54 | daemonkeeper | Yes, as said, you have no support for WPA in d-i yet and you can't finish an installation on netinst without network |
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| 21:11.05 | stew | you can't? |
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| 21:11.10 | stew | i thougth you could |
| 21:11.14 | daemonkeeper | Sure? |
| 21:11.14 | Coded1 | if I had access to dpkg/apt/aptitude or anything that would install the bins then I could |
| 21:11.51 | daemonkeeper | I /could/ be wrong, but I have the feeling you couldn't. You can for sure with the full CD1/DVD1 image. |
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| 21:12.25 | Coded1 | all you have to do is run "wpa_passphrase ESSID pass >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" |
| 21:12.31 | abrotman | stew: you totally can! |
| 21:13.13 | pfrog | it seems like dhcp is broken in debian? it doesn't send the hostname? |
| 21:13.24 | daemonkeeper | This is addressed to me then, abrotman |
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| 21:13.34 | abrotman | nah, i was telling stew |
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| 21:13.51 | stew | totally |
| 21:14.01 | stew | pfrog: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 21:14.05 | daemonkeeper | Yes, I casted doubt on this, stew said one can. :) |
| 21:14.14 | daemonkeeper | So he was right and I wrong. |
| 21:14.20 | stew | \*/ |
| 21:14.30 | Coded1 | there has to be a way to install debs since the installer is doing it ... right? |
| 21:14.35 | stew | (if we believe abrotman) |
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| 21:14.55 | abrotman | I said the keyboard was attached to the PC upstairs! |
| 21:14.56 | Saar | hm I am still unable to reach www.debian.org or any other debian.org urls that have the folliowing IPs: 128.31.0.51 206.12.19.7 |
| 21:15.09 | pfrog | lame |
| 21:15.11 | Saar | but I can reach wiki.debian.org, it has IP 93.94.130.161 |
| 21:15.14 | Coded1 | i want to keep this install as minimum as possible since this box has low ram |
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| 21:15.45 | Coded1 | abrotman, so ... umm .. how? |
| 21:15.48 | pfrog | I have to duplicate my host name as well? |
| 21:15.49 | Saar | i am not using a proxy or anything, in fact I only can reach www.debian.org if I use a proxy behind an openvpn connection |
| 21:16.03 | Saar | i.e. using a different internet connection |
| 21:16.04 | abrotman | Coded1: what's wrong with using a package manager? |
| 21:16.39 | Coded1 | abrotman, which one? I dropped to a console but apt/dpkg or aptitude seem to be missing |
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| 21:16.51 | abrotman | you lost dpkg ? |
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| 21:16.56 | abrotman | do you have 'ar' ? |
| 21:16.58 | StarWars | How can i configure my Network to let others Visit my WEBpage ? i use a Swich IP local 192.x.x i whant to have Real Ip 212.x.x ? Network interface .Pls.help |
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| 21:17.04 | Saar | www.debian.org if it does load it's without images, i.e. a rather sparse text only web page |
| 21:17.15 | Coded1 | abrotman, yup ar I have |
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| 21:17.38 | abrotman | Coded1: sounds liek you're going to have to learn 'ar x' to manually unpack .deb files |
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| 21:18.11 | stew | eh? |
| 21:18.16 | stew | why not use dpkg? |
| 21:18.22 | phogg | wow, WEB in all caps like it's an acronym! I haven't seen that in about15 years. Mmmm, nostalgia. |
| 21:18.42 | stew | Coded1: wait, did you chroot into the install? or are you still in a shell in the installer? |
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| 21:19.12 | Blue1 | if I just need to install java (from the repos) what package name should I use? |
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| 21:19.38 | StarWars | no Debian Network Guru ON ?? |
| 21:19.43 | Coded1 | just a shell |
| 21:20.09 | Coded1 | text mode installer just pressed "ctrl + alt F2" |
| 21:20.16 | xixim | lol |
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| 21:20.44 | pfrog | why would dhclient not send out the system hostname by default? |
| 21:20.48 | stew | Coded1: you then have to chroot into the actual install |
| 21:20.51 | jhutchins2 | StarWars: What kind of connection do you have? |
| 21:21.02 | abrotman | stew: he says he has no dpkg |
| 21:21.02 | stew | pfrog: ask isc |
| 21:21.14 | Coded1 | ahhh that make sense |
| 21:21.16 | pfrog | can I use dhcpcd instead of the isc dhclient with debian? |
| 21:21.17 | stew | abrotman: he hasn't checked his debian install yet though |
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| 21:21.26 | pfrog | dhcpcd seems to have saner default behavior? |
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| 21:21.55 | StarWars | [21:20:57] <abrotman> Lan via a Swich Router |
| 21:22.12 | StarWars | jhutchins2 Lan via a Swich Router |
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| 21:22.32 | jhutchins2 | StarWars: The router is going to have to forward the external port to your computer. |
| 21:22.41 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 21:24.05 | StarWars | jhutchins2 so i dont need to config my Server network '192.168.0.100' ?? i whant to use apache ssh by other Network |
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| 21:24.26 | Coded1 | screw it I'm just going to download the full cd |
| 21:25.18 | Saar | i don't think I ever got the "load firmware from removable media" working |
| 21:25.35 | jhutchins2 | StarWars: Usually the public IP address only applies to the router. You use the private 192.168... network internally, and the router forwards requests for port 80 to an internal address. |
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| 21:26.27 | Saar | luckily in the past it was at worst a missing ethernet driver and after install I could then apt-get install it, but now the missing firmware is for a raid controller, so I have to resort to unofficial firmware netinst CD iso |
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| 21:26.41 | StarWars | but i need my Freends from other Network to be able to login on my Server via ssh. layke ssh ip port '22' |
| 21:26.49 | Saar | i understand the needs for making debian ansolutely free, but it's annoying as hell |
| 21:27.22 | Saar | them device manufacturers are evil |
| 21:27.34 | stew | but we are annoying, right? |
| 21:27.52 | Saar | no, IT is annoying |
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| 21:28.19 | Saar | and I blame device manufacturers for being such idiots by releasing closed source drivers |
| 21:28.21 | Coded1 | hey man some of us work in IT |
| 21:28.34 | Saar | dont flatter yourself ;-) |
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| 21:28.48 | jhutchins2 | StarWars: Then you would have the router forward port 22 to your server - unless you need external ssh access to the router, |
| 21:28.48 | Coded1 | lol |
| 21:28.57 | jeward | I'm installing squeeze on a Mac Pro Quad and the grub install step is failing, can anyone help with that? |
| 21:29.04 | Coded1 | i make a great coffee ! |
| 21:29.34 | Saar | Coded1: very well ;-) |
| 21:29.41 | jhutchins2 | jeward: intel? |
| 21:29.54 | jeward | jhutchins2: Yes. |
| 21:30.04 | ranix | being annoyed at Debian for requiring dfsg compliance is clearly mistargeting |
| 21:30.26 | jhutchins2 | So it's an EFI system. grub may be having trouble with that. |
| 21:30.26 | ranix | direct your anger upstream |
| 21:30.26 | xixim | why not just setup the server in DMZ ? |
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| 21:31.00 | jhutchins2 | xixim: You're assuming he has an IP address available for it. |
| 21:31.00 | jeward | jhutchins2: I've had squeeze installed on it before (from crunchbang statler), but am rebuilding the machine. Grub is having issues this time. |
| 21:31.15 | jhutchins2 | xixim: And that the router does DMZ, which many don't. |
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| 21:31.26 | Saar | ranix: you are missreading my words, I said "IT" is annoying |
| 21:31.42 | jhutchins2 | jeward: Yeah, I had legacy grub from Centos 4 working on mini's. |
| 21:31.43 | jeward | jhutchins2: Any suggestions? |
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| 21:31.52 | xixim | jhutchins2: most of the "consumer" routers have the option.. at least the routers ive had did |
| 21:31.58 | Saar | i.e. the process of installing a linux distro and needing to hunt down for drivers or firmware of the disk controller |
| 21:32.03 | jeward | jhutchins2: lilo? :-) |
| 21:32.08 | Saar | and I don't blame debian |
| 21:32.15 | jhutchins2 | jeward: Well, it's grub2 now, that could be something. You haven't said what the errors were or anything. |
| 21:32.19 | Saar | learn to read |
| 21:32.25 | Saar | i am at worst griping |
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| 21:32.53 | SparFux | What is the place phpldapadmin gets the admin password from in debian? |
| 21:32.53 | Saar | ranix: i am not angry either |
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| 21:33.09 | jeward | jhutchins2: Just says, "This is a fata error." |
| 21:33.45 | Saar | ranix: griping is something humans do to release feelings of frustration, it is best done amongst friends or peers, i guess this channel at least has peers or similar minded people, so it' |
| 21:33.53 | jasond`` | i'm puzzled about this unresolvable issue with xserver-xorg-core http://98.129.169.48/pastebin/201102091531-1931.txt |
| 21:33.56 | Saar | s an appropriate place to gripe, now I am done I feel better :) |
| 21:33.57 | jhutchins2 | jeward: I'll bet it says more than that. |
| 21:34.49 | stew | jasond``: we removed a bunch of xorg packages from unstable that were unmaintained, this is expected for a short time |
| 21:34.58 | stew | jasond``: the packages are still available in other suites however |
| 21:35.01 | jeward | jhutchins2: Unable to install GRUB in (hd0,0), Executing 'grub-install (hd0,0)' failed. |
| 21:35.11 | jeward | jhutchins2: Nothing useful. |
| 21:35.25 | jasond`` | stew: i got this on a lenny->squeeze upgrade |
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| 21:35.35 | xixim | is glad he has flash 10 working properly |
| 21:35.58 | jhutchins2 | jeward: Is 0,0 correct? |
| 21:36.00 | stew | jasond``: oh, are you not following the release notes though? |
| 21:36.05 | jeward | jhutchins2: Can I do it from the command line? I'm running the live CD. |
| 21:36.24 | jeward | jhutchins2: Same error no matter what I try. |
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| 21:37.09 | jeward | jhutchins2: Originally succeeded on (hd0), but since it's EFI, that was of no use. |
| 21:37.35 | stew | jasond``: oh, hmm, this is weird, its complainng about Breaks: for packages it is going to remove anyway |
| 21:37.51 | jeward | jhutchins2: I'm happy to try anything, even starting over if you like. |
| 21:37.57 | stew | jasond``: you've already successfully done an apt-get upgrade, right? |
| 21:38.03 | stew | jasond``: why did you add the -f ? |
| 21:38.20 | jhutchins2 | jeward: Do some google searching on grub + efi - I don't currently have anything to test on. |
| 21:38.42 | jeward | jhutchins2: K, thanks. |
| 21:38.43 | jasond`` | stew: i have done an apt-get upgrade. i added -f because it suggested it |
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| 21:39.06 | matthew | where is apache2 installed if I got it from the package manager? |
| 21:39.11 | jasond`` | stew: i am following the release notes. just double-checked to make sure i didn't miss anything |
| 21:39.51 | stew | jasond``: yeah, sorry, i got confused at first, i'd try to nudge it in the right direction by removing some of the older broken xorg packages |
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| 21:39.57 | stew | jasond``: or I'd try aptitude |
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| 21:40.22 | jasond`` | stew: aptitude gave up as well. i'll try manually removing the xorg packages |
| 21:40.28 | jhutchins2 | jasond``: Be aware that aptitude may go into a loop trying to resolve gnome dependencies. |
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| 21:41.21 | dumbguy | is there a command to make my debian squeeze box go into acpi state 5? |
| 21:41.31 | ranix | 13:32 < Saar> learn to read <- that was rude and uncalled for. |
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| 21:42.26 | jhutchins2 | jeward: What size disk? |
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| 21:42.51 | jasond`` | jhutchins2: yeah, i used aptitude and caught it using 3.5 GB before i read the release notes |
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| 21:43.03 | ibrahim | after upgrading Debian Lenny to Debian Squeeze, it's started a sound like 'deeet' both when i was starting the computer and when i was closing off. do you have the same problem, or how can I stop it? |
| 21:43.57 | jhutchins2 | ,versions grub2 |
| 21:43.59 | judd | Package grub2 on i386 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14; wheezy: 1.98+20100804-14; sid: 1.99~rc1-2 |
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| 21:44.25 | intel352 | hey guys, can anyone suggest a good solution to ensure that a mount bind exists on reboot for chrooted environments (virtual hosting)? the chroots are created via a shell script, so it would be best to avoid having to add entries to fstab (or similar) |
| 21:44.37 | getBoa | ...thinking of installing Debian6 over Ubuntu |
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| 21:45.39 | jasond`` | stew: manually removing all the xorg packages it was complaining about with dpkg appears to have fixed the problem. thanks. |
| 21:45.49 | Bushmills | intel352: test for presence of a file or directory at mount point, which can only be available when mount point isn't empty |
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| 21:46.14 | getBoa | FRA|kaeser: FRA for France ? |
| 21:46.23 | FRA|kaeser | yes |
| 21:46.51 | getBoa | FRA|kaeser: watching the soccer game? |
| 21:46.58 | FRA|kaeser | yes |
| 21:47.11 | intel352 | Bushmills, to be more specific, I'm looking for a way to automatically create that mount point across all jail shells |
| 21:47.13 | FRA|kaeser | the other sub-saarian team is not a real match |
| 21:47.28 | Bushmills | intel352: create mount point with mkdir |
| 21:48.29 | Bushmills | you're welcome |
| 21:49.04 | ibrahim | doesn't debian squeeze install required drivers when upgrading from debian lenny? |
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| 21:49.18 | Bushmills | define "required" |
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| 21:49.45 | ibrahim | i don't know Bushmills, maybe that sound is a driver problem? |
| 21:49.53 | Bushmills | well, maybe |
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| 21:50.10 | getBoa | FRA|kaeser: well you got lucky on that one |
| 21:50.29 | ibrahim | Bushmills: you're using Debian Squeeze? |
| 21:50.30 | FRA|kaeser | explain |
| 21:50.31 | Bushmills | just by having a particular piece of hardware is no guaranty that the necessary driver will get installed |
| 21:50.49 | ibrahim | I see, yes. |
| 21:50.58 | FRA|kaeser | FRANCE WON :) |
| 21:51.10 | getBoa | I meant about the match |
| 21:51.43 | axisys | i just installed squeeze amd64 from dvd iso 1 .. which pkg should have the libstdc++.so.5 library ? |
| 21:52.15 | ranix | axisys: apt-file search libstdc++.so.5 |
| 21:52.26 | axisys | ranix: thanks |
| 21:52.40 | axisys | apt-file: command not found |
| 21:52.56 | ranix | what do we do when we want to use a program that is not installed |
| 21:52.56 | axisys | i guess it is a fresh install.. so need to get lots of pkgs before hand .. :-) |
| 21:53.12 | axisys | ranix: i am used to ubuntu server |
| 21:53.24 | axisys | ranix: it tells me where can I get the pkg usually |
| 21:53.39 | SparFux | What is the password phpldapadmin is asking for? Itdoesn't seem to be the slapd password for admin user. |
| 21:53.48 | axisys | but i need to install debian.. for lsi megaraid software manager |
| 21:54.00 | Bushmills | axisys: have you considered to use aptitude to install packages? |
| 21:54.01 | ranix | what do we do when we want to use a program that is not installed? |
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| 21:54.12 | axisys | Bushmills: doing that now |
| 21:54.32 | axisys | Bushmills: assuming apt-file is the pkg name |
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| 21:54.42 | axisys | in ubuntu it tells you what pkg it belongs too |
| 21:55.18 | blakes | I'm having some issues with drupal 6 and debian squeeze, the drupal group is saying to install php5.2. How can I do this in squeeze and still get updates? (squeeze is on 5.3) |
| 21:55.36 | axisys | apt-file is cool! |
| 21:55.47 | ranix | wait until you find apt-get |
| 21:55.48 | ranix | lol |
| 21:56.02 | axisys | ranix: i use that all the time.. never used apt-file |
| 21:56.13 | stew | blakes: squeeze has 5.3? i thought it only had drupal6 |
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| 21:56.38 | blakes | stew: squeeze has drupal6 and php5.3 rather than php5.2 |
| 21:57.51 | stew | blakes: are there bugs filed about whatever problems you have with 5.3? |
| 21:58.02 | SparFux | I find loads of instructions, at least on the web, but not a single hint on which password actually is used for the admin: http://debian-space.com/slapd-phpldapadmin-on-debian-lenny.html |
| 21:58.16 | Blue1 | is ther an easy way to install java? |
| 21:58.25 | blakes | stew: not that I know of and I have not filed any. I am not actually seeing any errors but just a huge slowdown on queries. |
| 21:58.41 | stew | blakes: trying to keep an up to date 5.2 on squeeze is going to be messy. it would probably rely on using the packages from lenny-security, but this is only going to last for a year, then you'll be stuck making security patches yourself |
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| 21:58.44 | axisys | this is odd |
| 21:58.46 | axisys | http://pastebin.com/AAiWhNBV |
| 21:59.09 | axisys | i converted a rpm to deb but i dont see the file |
| 21:59.18 | axisys | i did few rpm to deb on this dir |
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| 21:59.21 | samuelkadolph | I'm having a problem installing mono with the newest squeeze repo, apt cannot install zlib1g. http://pastie.org/1546635 |
| 21:59.22 | axisys | but this one is not there |
| 22:00.40 | stew | samuelkadolph: show us the output of "apt-cache policy zlib1g libglib2.0-dev libc6-dev libc6" |
| 22:01.17 | samuelkadolph | stew: http://pastie.org/1546765 |
| 22:01.17 | jhutchins2 | INteresting... I have no volume controll |
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| 22:02.28 | stew | samuelkadolph: this is emdebian? |
| 22:02.35 | samuelkadolph | Yeah |
| 22:02.52 | stew | samuelkadolph: you have a libc6 and zlib1g that are newer than those in debian, and no sources |
| 22:03.01 | stew | ...no sources currently configured that provided them |
| 22:03.47 | stew | samuelkadolph: you are going to have to add repositories for those packages. i'm guessing emdebian repositories |
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| 22:04.22 | samuelkadolph | stew: I'm on a http://www.phidgets.com/products.php?category=21&product_id=1072 it had emdebian source but I commented it out to try to use debian's. Can I uninstall zlib1g and use debians? |
| 22:04.37 | vado | Deb 6 PPC, stuck in a can't get root circle jerk. Can't log in as root, have admin account, but can't sudo as I'm not able to edit the sudoer's file without root access... Things I can get root for are to use synaptic or most other things where the GUI asks for root pass, but using the Nautilus scripts I cannot use to get a root access from within gnome. |
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| 22:05.09 | stew | samuelkadolph: you can try downgrading those two i suppose with "aptitude install package=version" |
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| 22:05.53 | stew | vado: /msg dpkg ifrpw |
| 22:05.57 | mattylux | sera |
| 22:06.26 | deego | After upgrading to squeeze, the new kde4 has crawled to a stop. :( |
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| 22:08.59 | vado | stew bash: /msg: No such file or directory |
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| 22:09.12 | stew | vado: its a command for irc, not bash |
| 22:09.19 | stew | dpkg: tell vado about ifrpw |
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| 22:09.56 | michalxo | hello all! |
| 22:10.16 | michalxo | Could you guys tell me please, how can I install ipe-6.0 from lenny? |
| 22:10.38 | michalxo | I found it just here... http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ipe/ but it's not very "nice" way of installing older SW |
| 22:10.46 | michalxo | so, howto cope with that please? thanks! |
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| 22:12.03 | stew | michalxo: "aptitude install ipe" |
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| 22:12.09 | stew | michalxo: and its not older, 6.0 is current in lenny |
| 22:12.17 | stew | judd: versions ipe |
| 22:12.19 | judd | Package ipe on i386 -- lenny: 6.0pre30-5; sid: 7.0.10-2; squeeze: 7.0.10-2; wheezy: 7.0.10-2 |
| 22:12.22 | samuelkadolph | stew: Looks like that would work but it means look for a lot of packages. I'm going to restore to factory and see if they are installed by default. |
| 22:12.28 | samuelkadolph | looking* |
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| 22:12.36 | michalxo | stealthii_ squeeze here :( |
| 22:12.48 | michalxo | stew |
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| 22:13.07 | stew | michalxo: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 22:13.12 | michalxo | aptitude install -t oldstable ipe did not worked |
| 22:13.26 | stew | samuelkadolph: see if what is installed by default? |
| 22:13.42 | SparFux | I am more and more into the idea it's a debian bug. |
| 22:13.49 | michalxo | stealthii_ thx, i'll have a look |
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| 22:14.05 | samuelkadolph | stew: zlib1g and libc. I'm going to try only enabling debian now since emdebian provides some packages with newer versions |
| 22:14.16 | ibrahim | I'm trying to install a .tar.bz2 file from the terminal, but after command "./configure" it says: "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" |
| 22:14.17 | samuelkadolph | And I'm sure there are more packages like that |
| 22:14.24 | stew | samuelkadolph: uh, libc6 is the most fundamental package on the system, besides perhaps the kernel |
| 22:14.26 | ibrahim | where am I doing wrong? |
| 22:14.53 | stew | samuelkadolph: and both of those packages are marked as "Priority: required" so they are on every sane debian install |
| 22:15.18 | stew | ibrahim: read the README or INSTALL for install instructions if they exist |
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| 22:15.42 | ibrahim | ok then, stew. |
| 22:15.45 | samuelkadolph | stew: Hmmm, is it possible to have it replace all emdebian packages with downgrades from debian's? Trying to downgrade libc complains about libc-bin |
| 22:16.00 | kjfletch | ibrahim: have you unpacked it? tar xjvf package.tar.bz2; cd package ? |
| 22:16.27 | ibrahim | yes, i did. kjfletch |
| 22:16.35 | ibrahim | and cd file_name, I did. |
| 22:16.42 | stew | samuelkadolph: yes, since this is such a fundamental package, I'd expect problems downgrading it |
| 22:16.44 | ibrahim | ok but then ./configure didn't work. |
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| 22:17.20 | samuelkadolph | stew: I installed mono-devel from debian's repo a few days ago and it worked, what changed in the release to break it? |
| 22:18.09 | stew | samuelkadolph: nothing |
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| 22:19.07 | stew | samuelkadolph: or what broke is you upgrading some packages away from the released ones, then took away some of your sources |
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| 22:19.45 | kjfletch | ibrahim: ./configure only works if the package is using the GNU (or similar?) build system. It's generally just a shell script, if it doesn't exist inside the folder then it's probably not using that build system. Read the associated docs that [hopefully] came with it. |
| 22:19.54 | samuelkadolph | stew: I got it working and then wanted to restore to factory to streamline installing mono on the device, but I cannot install any mono package now |
| 22:20.05 | ibrahim | how to move a file to my home directory from the terminal? |
| 22:20.07 | stew | samuelkadolph: yes, i see |
| 22:20.16 | stew | samuelkadolph: because you can't install the libc6-dev that goes with your libc6 |
| 22:20.19 | ibrahim | I'm trying to install firefox, kjfletch. |
| 22:20.29 | stew | samuelkadolph: because you no longer have the source where that libc6 came from |
| 22:20.48 | stew | ibrahim: "aptitude install iceweasel", firefox is renamed to iceweasel in debian |
| 22:21.22 | ibrahim | yes stew but i want the name. |
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| 22:21.32 | ibrahim | actually i try to learn how to install from the terminal. |
| 22:21.40 | jhutchins2 | Bad debian! No lts.conf manpage, info removed from docs file! |
| 22:21.50 | stew | ibrahim: ask in #firefox then |
| 22:21.58 | ibrahim | ok. |
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| 22:22.42 | jhutchins2 | ibrahim: The only difference is that debian went through and replaced some of the graphics and replaced the word firefox with iceweasel in a few places. Otherwise it's the same. |
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| 22:22.53 | kjfletch | ibrahim: if you want to learn building software I would start with something smaller. |
| 22:22.55 | stew | judd: file lts.conf.5.gz |
| 22:22.59 | judd | lts.conf.5.gz in squeeze/i386: ltsp-docs: usr/share/man/man5/lts.conf.5.gz |
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| 22:23.23 | ibrahim | let me hear you advice please, kjfletch? |
| 22:25.12 | SparFux | there are 5 tutorials on how to setup phpldapadmin and not one mentions which password would be used to login and where to set it! |
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| 22:27.20 | jhutchins2 | ,versions ltsp-docs |
| 22:27.22 | judd | Package ltsp-docs on i386 -- sid: 0.99+bzr115-1; squeeze: 0.99+bzr115-1; wheezy: 0.99+bzr115-1 |
| 22:27.38 | jhutchins2 | WTF? |
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| 22:28.39 | Corin | How do I install subversion in 6.0? |
| 22:28.49 | Corin | Do not say apt-get... |
| 22:28.52 | stew | Corin: aptitude install subversion |
| 22:28.54 | Corin | Because that's not working. |
| 22:28.54 | samuelkadolph | stew: I think I understand, if I can enable the sources for emdebian, will the dev packages from debian's repo work? |
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| 22:29.25 | Corin | stew: Couldn't find packages. |
| 22:29.28 | stew | samuelkadolph: if you enable the sources for embedian then a combination of debian packages from the two should work |
| 22:29.28 | Corin | :P |
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| 22:29.36 | stew | Corin: show us the output of "apt-cache policy " in a pastebin |
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| 22:30.10 | twanny796 | how can I install pata_it821x ?? |
| 22:30.25 | Tekku | cya |
| 22:30.35 | keith4 | twanny796: that module is in the kernel package |
| 22:31.00 | keith4 | Corin: works fine, here ;-) |
| 22:31.10 | twanny796 | keith4: but it does not load as pata_it821x, only it821x |
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| 22:31.10 | Corin | http://pastebin.com/LUV03b0t |
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| 22:31.27 | stew | Corin: /msg dpkg squeeze sources.list |
| 22:31.27 | crubb | hey guys |
| 22:31.28 | Corin | keith4: I don't need to know that it works fine there. How at all is that helpful? |
| 22:31.34 | funky | hello |
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| 22:31.50 | keith4 | Corin: sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop this week |
| 22:31.55 | stew | Corin: it helpful in verifying that this is, indeed the correct command |
| 22:32.03 | crubb | i'm trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze, but i'm getting the following unmet dependency, can anyone give me a hint on how to resolve it: python-minimal: Breaks: python2.5-minimal (< 2.5.5-7) but 2.5.4-1 is installed and it is kept back. |
| 22:32.16 | stew | crubb: are you following the procedure in the release notes? |
| 22:32.28 | keith4 | crubb: you might need to un-pin python2.5-minimal |
| 22:32.30 | funky | I'm getting xorg issues on SID when I tried to dist-upgrade, I guess it's a common issue, do you know what do I have to do? |
| 22:32.44 | crubb | stew: i'm following a german translation ;) |
| 22:32.46 | stew | "kept back" would be caused by other packages |
| 22:33.01 | jhutchins2 | funky: Install stable instead of sid. |
| 22:33.09 | funky | jhutchins2: that's not an option |
| 22:33.16 | crubb | stew: how can i find out which package is causing it? |
| 22:33.23 | keith4 | twanny796: "modprobe pata_it821x" => "pata_it821x 8470 0 " in lsmod |
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| 22:33.43 | keith4 | looks like it loads fine to me |
| 22:33.47 | jhutchins2 | funky: If you don't know how to fix sid you have no business running it. |
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| 22:34.28 | funky | jhutchins2: bah |
| 22:34.30 | keith4 | crubb: ah, ignore me. listen to stew |
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| 22:35.08 | amphi | funky: xorg seems to be quite exciting in SID ATM - you may have an opportunity to hone your shell skills in a text VT ;) |
| 22:35.24 | keith4 | twanny796: looks like "it821x" and "pata_it821x" are 2 different modules |
| 22:35.36 | funky | amphi: I know, I could try to fix the mess, but it's 23:35, i'm tired maybe tomorrow |
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| 22:35.38 | szymon_g | hi |
| 22:35.38 | Corin | stew... nothing's working still. |
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| 22:35.49 | keith4 | twanny796: ... in 2 different kernels ;-) |
| 22:35.54 | funky | i just wanted to know if there was any already-treated-here quick solution |
| 22:36.00 | Saar | hm some mirrors have issues: E: Release file expired, ignoring http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/dists/squeeze/Release (invalid since 8d 8h 17min 50s) |
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| 22:36.16 | szymon_g | i've question (i'm just collecting info): what is the minimal "class" of processor that debian 6 would run on: 486 or 586? |
| 22:36.43 | keith4 | Saar: maybe email the mirrors list? |
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| 22:36.49 | frikinz | stew: can the bot show say the first 5 entries in the pts for a package? to see the last 5 package movements? |
| 22:36.49 | szymon_g | i know that some distros (fedora, arch, ubuntu) requires 686 class processor |
| 22:36.59 | frikinz | stew: erm the last 5 |
| 22:37.00 | twanny796 | keith4: I am using debian lenny |
| 22:37.11 | keith4 | twanny796: stock 2.6.26 kernel? |
| 22:37.42 | keith4 | dpkg: tell Corin about doesn't work |
| 22:38.19 | twanny796 | keith4: 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 22:38.28 | funky | I think the only that that i can do so far, it just wait until new drivers use the new abi |
| 22:38.36 | funky | s/that/thing |
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| 22:39.36 | jkyle | so, upgrading debian and apparently touch is broken. The attempt to touch any file fails with: touch: setting times of `temp': Bad address |
| 22:39.43 | SparFux | Can anybody manage to log into phpldapadmin in debian? |
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| 22:39.54 | jkyle | which in turn breaks any upgrade that uses touch to update times |
| 22:40.08 | keith4 | SparFux: of course. what's your real question? |
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| 22:40.17 | jkyle | searching lists and such has turned up numerous references to the issue, but no solutions |
| 22:40.31 | SparFux | keith4: I desperately try to do it, but nothing works. Where is the password supposed to be set? |
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| 22:41.13 | keith4 | um. what? |
| 22:41.43 | SparFux | keith4: I have a fresh install of slapd and phpldapadmin. debconf asked for slapd password, but it doesn't work to log in. |
| 22:41.49 | keith4 | SparFux: it's just a front-end to LDAP. you need to configure which LDAP servers you want it to point at |
| 22:42.08 | keith4 | and your login needs to be a DN |
| 22:42.38 | SparFux | cn=admin,dc=sc,dc=priv is my login |
| 22:43.03 | SparFux | And the config.php in /etc/phpldapadmin should be the place to point it to slapd. |
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| 22:43.41 | keith4 | SparFux: make sure you can get a command-line bind to work, first, using ldapsearch for example, before you worry about phpldapadmin |
| 22:44.06 | keith4 | check slapd's log, or syslog, for info. i forget if slapd defaults to syslog or not |
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| 22:45.31 | SparFux | keith4: well, at least it does not really work out of the box. |
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| 22:47.02 | Corin | Alright... I don't care about the previous issue. Just... |
| 22:47.08 | crubb | stew: ok i'm still stuck, even after reading the docs ;) can you give me a hint on resolving the python dependencies? |
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| 22:47.18 | Corin | I need to be able to click with my touch pad though. |
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| 22:50.26 | frikinz | Corin: there's a graphical package for this: gpointing-device-settings |
| 22:50.28 | SparFux | keith4: $ ldapsearch -LLL "(sn=smith)" cn sn telephoneNumber gets me SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started What password annd user would debian have installed? |
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| 22:51.08 | Necrosporus | Say I'm trying to make a Debian 6 installation USB stick. So, I have copied entire content of iso into /media/disk/debian, and I have added lines to load debian's vmlinuz and initrd.gz from /debian/install.386. So, I can boot up it, but the installer reports about missing CD. How can I make installer use USB stick instead of CD? |
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| 22:53.23 | Necrosporus | I'm using netinstall image |
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| 22:55.51 | ibrahim | how do you make "adobe flash player" content work on website on Debian? |
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| 22:56.29 | twinkie_addict | Necrosporus: cat file.iso > /dev/sdb && sync |
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| 22:56.45 | Necrosporus | twinkie_addict, it would destroy other content |
| 22:56.52 | twinkie_addict | yes |
| 22:57.07 | Necrosporus | I'd like too keep the content, it is System Rescue CD flash |
| 22:57.12 | twinkie_addict | but it works |
| 22:57.18 | twinkie_addict | that what i did |
| 22:57.20 | Necrosporus | say I'd like to add debian |
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| 22:57.49 | Necrosporus | But I'd like to make a flash, containing both sysreccd and debian netinstall |
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| 22:58.07 | SparFux | keith4: ok, somehow now it works. I dunno what I did any different, but now it takes my password. typo? But I tried a bizillion times :-( |
| 22:58.18 | jhutchins2 | How do you control volume with pulseaudio? |
| 22:58.18 | Necrosporus | say I can load the installer, but ... |
| 22:58.44 | twinkie_addict | jhutchins2: not sure i use alsa |
| 22:58.46 | twanny796 | which is the package for the kernel source? |
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| 22:59.46 | canci__ | twanny796, linux-source-VERSION |
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| 23:02.48 | twanny796 | canci__: :) |
| 23:03.06 | canci__ | :) |
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| 23:05.50 | jkyle | hates when upgrades explode |
| 23:06.02 | Mad7Scientst | Does sshd come by default with debian? |
| 23:06.08 | Mad7Scientst | I need to know what to type to start it |
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| 23:07.21 | Coded1 | I installed a base install without any net connection, now my sources.list only lists my cdrom as a source, how can I get a proper sources.list? |
| 23:07.34 | Mad7Scientst | I just did the same thing |
| 23:07.52 | Mad7Scientst | 1st uncomment the two commented lines with "security" in them |
| 23:07.56 | Mad7Scientst | comment out the CD |
| 23:08.07 | Necrosporus | Coded1, you can add it manually, I suppose |
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| 23:08.20 | frostschutz | Mad7Scientst: if you installed a minimal gentoo, maybe sshd didn't get installed along with it. install openssh(-client,-server) |
| 23:08.32 | twinkie_addict | setup internet then edit sources.lst with the urs us need and save aptitude update |
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| 23:08.36 | Coded1 | Necrosporus, what would I add thought? could someone pastebin a copy of theirs? |
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| 23:08.54 | twinkie_addict | urls you |
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| 23:09.02 | Coded1 | i have net connection now |
| 23:09.06 | Necrosporus | Coded1, I can't. I haven't even installed debian |
| 23:09.33 | Coded1 | anyone else? |
| 23:09.36 | Coded1 | :) |
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| 23:09.55 | twinkie_addict | ok google search a usable sources.lst and copie the config file and update atp |
| 23:10.01 | Mad7Scientst | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html section 2.1.4 Coded1 |
| 23:10.01 | Necrosporus | Also, you can use Slackware instead of Debian %) |
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| 23:10.19 | Mad7Scientst | frostschutz, this is debian not gentoo :) |
| 23:10.56 | bp0 | is there a list somewhere of this firmware that was included but isnt now? |
| 23:11.01 | bp0 | non-free |
| 23:11.13 | frostschutz | Mad7Scientst: right, that's what I meant lol :) |
| 23:11.18 | twinkie_addict | yeh non-free |
| 23:11.36 | Mad7Scientst | deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-freerndeb-src http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free |
| 23:11.49 | Mad7Scientst | replace XX with us for USA mirror |
| 23:11.50 | frostschutz | \r\n, seriously? ;) |
| 23:12.30 | Mad7Scientst | Coded1, comment out the CD and add those two lines |
| 23:12.55 | Mad7Scientst | and uncomment the security.debian lines too of course |
| 23:13.02 | bp0 | non-free is all non-free software |
| 23:13.13 | bp0 | i mean just the firmware parts |
| 23:13.24 | bp0 | or a list of devices that will not work now |
| 23:13.29 | bp0 | without extra bits |
| 23:13.52 | Mad7Scientst | frostschutz, how do I turn on server? apt-get install openssh(-client,-server) like that? |
| 23:13.55 | Coded1 | Mad7Scientst, that would be non free but how about the free ones? |
| 23:13.58 | Mad7Scientst | How do you attach a shell to a TCP socket? |
| 23:14.18 | Mad7Scientst | Coded1, that's everything and non-free |
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| 23:14.59 | Mad7Scientst | my screen stopped working after I upgraded to Squeeze |
| 23:15.09 | Mad7Scientst | after initrd finished my screen blanks |
| 23:15.13 | frostschutz | without ssh you don't :) |
| 23:15.20 | daemonkeeper | bp0: Lookup for firmware-* packages on the source of your choice |
| 23:15.46 | Mad7Scientst | maybe I can start xterm and have it connect to my other computer |
| 23:15.58 | daemonkeeper | bp0: e.g. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=non-free |
| 23:16.00 | Coded1 | Mad7Scientst, thanks man |
| 23:16.00 | jkyle | I found a brief reference that says you can replace the link to /usr/bin/touch so it points to /bin/bb and it'll fix this bug. But I'm not sure what package/where to get /bin/bb |
| 23:16.04 | twinkie_addict | that might work |
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| 23:16.21 | frostschutz | Mad7Scientst: if you want to type it literally like that, use {} instead of (), but it'd probably easier to write it as openssh-server openssh-client ;) |
| 23:17.14 | Mad7Scientst | so I just apt-get install openssh-server |
| 23:17.17 | Mad7Scientst | and hope it works |
| 23:17.26 | Mad7Scientst | I can press backspace and listen to for the beep sound |
| 23:17.34 | Mad7Scientst | that tells me I am at the # prompt |
| 23:17.42 | bp0 | daemonkeeper, interesting |
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| 23:17.43 | bp0 | thanks |
| 23:18.00 | frostschutz | Mad7Scientst: the alternative would be booting a live cd, mount the partition from there, chroot, and then apt-get |
| 23:18.14 | frostschutz | Mad7Scientst: but yeah it should work lol :) |
| 23:18.29 | wendell__ | hey guys can i have some help im trying to install the java plugin with google chrome |
| 23:18.31 | wendell__ | > |
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| 23:20.03 | wendell__ | hey guys can i have some help im trying to install the java plugin with google chrome? |
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| 23:21.03 | maelcum | hi. is there a way to see which packages depend on a particular package? i am evaluating some libraries and it would be helpful to know which one is being used by real applications. |
| 23:21.40 | wendell__ | hey guys can i have some help im trying to install the java plugin with google chrome? |
| 23:22.21 | twinkie_addict | enaaable non-free and aptitude install jre i think |
| 23:22.38 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: install jre? |
| 23:22.41 | twinkie_addict | after updateing atp though |
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| 23:22.50 | twinkie_addict | yeh |
| 23:23.02 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: command? |
| 23:23.57 | twinkie_addict | onece non-free is enabled aptitude update && aptitude install jre |
| 23:24.43 | twinkie_addict | should work then |
| 23:25.16 | ByteChang | Hi guys. I'm hoping someone can help me. I just installed Debian Squeeze. and am trying to install openqrm. It says to do a make. But make is not found. I installed it and tried make again. It started, but complained gcc could not be installed because of unmet dependencies.... |
| 23:25.33 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: i did it doesnt work |
| 23:25.58 | twinkie_addict | wendell__: what happens when you try |
| 23:26.15 | amphi | ByteChang: try installing build-essential perhaps |
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| 23:26.28 | jasond`` | hm, the gnome desktop doesn't load after upgrading to squeeze |
| 23:26.31 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root |
| 23:26.40 | Mad7Scientst | apt-get doesn't work and I don't know why since I have no screen |
| 23:26.46 | Mad7Scientst | networking is working |
| 23:26.55 | twinkie_addict | you need to use su |
| 23:26.58 | Mad7Scientst | I don't have openssh-server or xterm installed so I can't get in remotely |
| 23:27.03 | twinkie_addict | then password |
| 23:27.17 | ByteChang | amphi: hi, thanks. the same thing happens.... (depends on gcc >=4:4.4.3) |
| 23:27.26 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: no package found called jre |
| 23:27.37 | amphi | judd: versions gcc |
| 23:27.39 | judd | Package gcc on i386 -- lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; sid: 4:4.4.5-2; wheezy: 4:4.4.5-2; experimental: 4:4.5.1-1exp1 |
| 23:27.51 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: i got jdk doesnt that come with jre? |
| 23:27.58 | ByteChang | (using amd64) |
| 23:27.59 | twinkie_addict | do a seach for jre it may be like jre6 or something |
| 23:28.12 | amphi | ByteChang: what version of debian? |
| 23:28.19 | twinkie_addict | maybe |
| 23:28.23 | wendell__ | squeeze |
| 23:28.29 | wendell__ | if you were talking to me |
| 23:28.37 | Mad7Scientst | how do I enable a serial console |
| 23:28.41 | ByteChang | Squeeze 2.6.32-5 |
| 23:29.29 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: how do i search? |
| 23:29.45 | twinkie_addict | man aptitude |
| 23:29.51 | Mad7Scientst | humm I have it here I'll try a serial console :) |
| 23:30.25 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: what>? |
| 23:30.51 | amphi | ByteChang: how odd - what does 'apt-cache show gcc | grep Version' say ? |
| 23:30.56 | twinkie_addict | type man aptitude in a terminle and read |
| 23:31.00 | ibrahim | why doesn't it remove epiphany browser? is it something "must"? |
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| 23:32.37 | twinkie_addict | and remember the non-free repos need to enabled |
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| 23:32.55 | mazdok | hi there |
| 23:33.00 | jasond`` | why would metacity not load after upgrading to squeeze? i removed all the .gnome* and .gconf* directories. |
| 23:33.02 | iqpi | hi mazdok |
| 23:33.03 | ByteChang | amphi: Version: 4:4.4.5-1 |
| 23:33.05 | mazdok | I have subscripted to the linux-usb mailinglist |
| 23:33.08 | twinkie_addict | and apt needs to be upded |
| 23:33.16 | mazdok | but I don't know how to send email to the lsit |
| 23:33.17 | mazdok | list* |
| 23:33.26 | mazdok | in the mail there is no such info |
| 23:33.31 | Mad7Scientst | AAARRGGGGGG this laptop is legacy free. |
| 23:33.37 | mazdok | and there is neither in their website |
| 23:33.40 | Mad7Scientst | no serial ports of any kind |
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| 23:33.59 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: http://paste.debian.net/107104/ |
| 23:34.12 | amphi | ByteChang: your sources.list only has squeeze in it? |
| 23:35.06 | ByteChang | yes. (I added contrib non-free) (non-free was required for my broadcom eth0) |
| 23:35.21 | twinkie_addict | wendell__: give me a breif 1 or 2 line desription i dont have gpm installed i dont use a mouse no copy and paste here |
| 23:35.25 | ByteChang | amphi: but just squeeze is listed. |
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| 23:36.06 | amphi | ByteChang: can you install gcc manually? |
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| 23:36.24 | mazdok | anyone? |
| 23:36.38 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: i see openjdk (hate it) iced tea and sun java |
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| 23:37.07 | amphi | ByteChang: and then make ? |
| 23:37.17 | twinkie_addict | wendell__: ok give me a sec let me check some thing |
| 23:37.26 | ByteChang | amphi: I tried, but it gives me a bunch of dependencie issues.... (cpp =>4.4.4 gcc >=4.454) |
| 23:37.43 | ByteChang | amphi: Says broken packages... |
| 23:38.10 | ByteChang | (well, thats not a bunch I guess...) |
| 23:38.35 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: ok |
| 23:39.55 | ByteChang | I tried apt-get install cpp and it says 'cpp : Depends: cpp-4.4 (>= 4.4.5-1~) but it is not going to be installed' |
| 23:40.21 | twinkie_addict | wendell__: try apt-get install default-jre |
| 23:40.40 | ByteChang | i wonder if i had a corrupted d/l.... |
| 23:40.47 | ByteChang | I should have md5sum'ed it.... |
| 23:41.05 | wendell__ | twinkie_addict: default jre already set to newest version |
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| 23:42.07 | twinkie_addict | ok do google search for java debian wiki read what it says seems javea isnt suported in sqeeze any more |
| 23:42.31 | twinkie_addict | you may need to install from the official java site |
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| 23:43.40 | flock-_ | how can I do a cron, that every 10 minutes or so check a /home/user/folder and if theres a new file (any name) with a extension .lol (for example) he converts it to .tar.gz and delete the file |
| 23:47.01 | Mad7Scientst | How do I do init=/bin/sh when there is an initrd? |
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| 23:47.25 | Mad7Scientst | Is it the same, it'll mount init= after it finishes with the initrd |
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| 23:48.01 | amphi | ByteChang: and what happens if you try to manually install cpp-4.4 ? |
| 23:48.14 | twanny796 | how do I upgrade? |
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| 23:49.03 | Mad7Scientst | twanny796, /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 23:49.11 | Mad7Scientst | I just upgraded to squeeze and now I have blank video |
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| 23:51.55 | ByteChang | amphi: cpp-4.4 : Depends: gcc-4.4-base (= 4.4.5-8) but 4.4.5-10 is to be installed |
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| 23:53.19 | ByteChang | ( apt-get install cpp-4.4) |
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| 23:55.05 | twanny796 | where is linux source installed ? |
| 23:56.48 | jkyle | twanny796: just a note, if you're on a vps and can't upgrade the kernel there are serious issues upgrading to squeeze |
| 23:57.08 | jkyle | there can be* |
| 23:57.56 | jkyle | lol, another republican sex scandal |
| 23:58.01 | twanny796 | jkyle: I don't really want to upgrade, I am after pata_it821x module |
| 23:58.08 | jkyle | oops wrong channel |
| 23:58.23 | twanny796 | jkyle: I'm a bit lost |
| 23:58.49 | twinkie_addict | ok installed gpm now have copy and past abilaty :) bout the only thing i use a mouse for as i run cli onli |
| 23:58.58 | amphi | ByteChang: arrghh - you must have had sid in your sources.list |
| 23:59.24 | ByteChang | i just tried removing the contrib & non-free ... |
| 23:59.30 | ByteChang | but still no luck... ack... |
| 23:59.31 | twanny796 | jkyle: I downloaded the kernel source and accidentally deleted it, tried to download it again but apt is saying ...nothing to do... |
| 23:59.40 | amphi | judd: versions gcc-4.4-base |
| 23:59.41 | judd | Package gcc-4.4-base on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.5-10; wheezy: 4.4.5-10 |
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| 23:59.47 | amphi | ByteChang: ^^ |
| 23:59.59 | jkyle | twanny796: kinda battling my own issues right now with said upgrade bug :P |
