| 00:00.11 | pablo | nsadmin: it works for you? |
| 00:00.26 | nsadmin | no, I'm getting the same message |
| 00:01.37 | pablo | :s |
| 00:01.54 | nsadmin | http://git.debian.org/?p=users/seanius/patch-tracker.git |
| 00:02.09 | nsadmin | that works |
| 00:04.08 | pablo | nsadmin: what do i want the patch-tracker source code for? |
| 00:04.32 | nsadmin | no idea, it was a link on the error page |
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| 00:08.14 | nsadmin | tries to AimHere... hits himself... |
| 00:08.50 | MikePer | So, I found out it's an attachmate irma isa. Where can I find a hardware compatibility list for debian? |
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| 00:09.56 | nsadmin | I'd say you should try to find the manual for the card... the meanings of the settings of the dip switches could help you |
| 00:13.42 | jordanm | !hcl |
| 00:13.42 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists for Linux include http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/ , http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/lists/hardware_linux.html and http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ . Also ask me about <driver locator>, <judd-hardware>. |
| 00:13.55 | MikePer | Oh my god, I found a Windows 2.0 installation manual for it :) |
| 00:14.26 | nsadmin | does that show what to do with the dip switches? |
| 00:15.53 | MikePer | Unfortunately it's just the manual for the software |
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| 00:17.34 | karsten-nr | MikePer: The good news is that the config settings (if it talks about IRQs, ioports, etc.) are probably useful to you. |
| 00:17.51 | karsten-nr | MikePer: Windows 2.0 didn't do much automagick configuration. |
| 00:18.11 | karsten-nr | MikePer: .... alternately, you could find a version of Win2.0 and run it under emulation to use your card :) |
| 00:18.30 | dvs | hopes it's a VESA local bus card |
| 00:18.35 | karsten-nr | (actually, probably not as you'd need native Linux support for it for that to work). |
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| 00:19.01 | MikePer | dvs, it's isa |
| 00:19.06 | dvs | yikes |
| 00:19.43 | MikePer | I wonder if there is any 5250 card supported by linux |
| 00:20.25 | karsten-nr | MikePer: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/topic/rzatv/rzatvl5250.htm |
| 00:21.05 | karsten-nr | MikePer: That looks like it's emulation in software. |
| 00:21.58 | MikePer | karsten-nr, yes, but I think that's a software for twinax-over-tcp/ip |
| 00:22.25 | MikePer | Most newer systems don't have twinax anymore, physically |
| 00:23.13 | karsten-nr | MikePer: In general, IBM is very bullish on Linux, so there's going to be a solution. Not sure if it's going to fit your specific system/HW config. And I think iSeries / S/400 experience on #debian is going to be pretty thin. |
| 00:25.20 | MikePer | karsten-nr, I feared that it would be a problem. It seems that I have to revert to my 5250 infowindow. |
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| 00:29.21 | jpinx-eeepc | karsten-nr: that now works with " an some fancy escaping, but sed seems to pass through the file for every newline and adds substitutions I don't want. I want to s/\n/\"\n once for each line. |
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| 00:34.47 | jpinx-eeepc | karsten-nr: http://paste.debian.net/98686/ |
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| 00:44.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | how does debootstrap determine which packages to download? i've not found something that explains it yet |
| 00:46.14 | jpinx-eeepc | Kamping_Kaiser: I thought it just gave a base system |
| 00:46.16 | dondelelcaro | Kamping_Kaiser: it depends on what variant, but it gets the packages files, gets all of the essential package and their dependences, apt, and then whatever else is appropriate for the variant requestted |
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| 00:46.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | dondelelcaro: so it doesn't deal with tasks or any of the complicated stuff? |
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| 00:47.06 | dondelelcaro | Kamping_Kaiser: no, tasks are handled by tasksel or similar |
| 00:47.11 | gusswak | hi folks, how do I get jarsigner ? it says it's not found |
| 00:47.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:47.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | jpinx-eeepc: and thanks to you too :) |
| 00:47.33 | dondelelcaro | Kamping_Kaiser: debootstrap's job is to get a root in a state where it can use other tools to install Debian packages |
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| 00:47.56 | gusswak | on debian lenny, jar, java , javac works fine. however jarsigner is not found. how can I install this ? |
| 00:48.14 | MikePer | karsten-nr, the file list is on archive.org but the files aren't available anymore so there is no way to get a doc or software for it |
| 00:48.16 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: does that mean it would install even less than the base system over netinstall? |
| 00:48.57 | rubberneck | Im new to Debian distos, came from RHEL, im trying to use aptitude to install cdrecord, `aptitude install cdrecord` it finds it but wants me to put in the distro CD, how can I force it to get it from a repository on the web? |
| 00:49.37 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell rubberneck about sources list |
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| 00:49.47 | rubberneck | Tanks |
| 00:50.08 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell rubberneck about sources |
| 00:50.29 | jpinx-eeepc | rubberneck: you might want to look at trying apt-spy too |
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| 00:50.42 | RicKyRocK | what is the commande to import local file ? |
| 00:51.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | RicKyRocK: using debian today are we? |
| 00:51.55 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: it certainly can |
| 00:52.04 | rubberneck | I commented it out in /etc/apt/sources.list and all is well. Ill check out apt-spy, thanks.... I gotta say it seems that apt is putting yum to shame. |
| 00:52.12 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: by default it installs the base system, but it has multiple variants |
| 00:52.45 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: thanks - I had not tried the variants but next time I will |
| 00:53.20 | peterrooney | gusswak: apt-file is your new best friend. aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update |
| 00:53.44 | rubberneck | Hmmm yes, apt-spy is good. Thanks. |
| 00:53.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | dondelelcaro: sorry to bug you... do you know if the debootstrap maintainers accept patches (request for a symlink) for distros != debian? |
| 00:54.13 | peterrooney | gusswak: after apt-file is installed and updated, apt-file search jarsigner should work |
| 00:54.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | er, for distros that are not debian or ubuntu |
| 00:55.23 | dondelelcaro | Kamping_Kaiser: not sure what the point would be; you just provide an appropriate script, and people can use it, assuming it's Debian-like enough |
| 00:56.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | dondelelcaro: what the point for debian would be? i can understand that. thanks again for the help |
| 00:56.42 | dondelelcaro | Kamping_Kaiser: yes; unless it's another Debian based distribution, debootstrap is the wrong tool |
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| 01:06.11 | skyjumper | i've got a server that's freezing on boot, nothing showing up in syslog - http://imgur.com/Vif30.jpg |
| 01:06.26 | skyjumper | any idea where to start looking? |
| 01:07.21 | skyjumper | still have magic sysrq |
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| 01:08.12 | Snadder | Why dosn't debian have a rating and comment system.. so people can find the best apps.. just like android market? |
| 01:09.14 | qq- | skyjumper, it's powerpc ? |
| 01:09.18 | skyjumper | qq-: amd64 |
| 01:09.51 | qq- | ah, pegasus is a net card |
| 01:09.53 | qq- | ? |
| 01:10.22 | skyjumper | usb ethernet, it's not the problem |
| 01:11.02 | qq- | it seems freeze on eth0 ... named pegasus |
| 01:11.43 | karlpinc | !tell Snadder about popularity contest |
| 01:11.53 | qq- | skyjumper, btw , it's what qemu, kvm ? |
| 01:12.16 | skyjumper | qemu/kvm are for virtualization |
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| 01:13.25 | qq- | skyjumper, i'll w/o that pegasus , and see what happens |
| 01:13.29 | skyjumper | doing it now |
| 01:13.36 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.45 | skyjumper | why the hell is it freezing for 3.5 minutes right before 'fuse init' |
| 01:15.57 | skyjumper | booted without usb ethernet, no pegasus warning, still frozen |
| 01:16.50 | qq- | skyjumper, which debian and kernel ? |
| 01:18.17 | skyjumper | not sure, custom kernel |
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| 01:18.35 | Sarajevo | never join #ubuntu-women |
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| 01:18.51 | skyjumper | i *was* getting disk errors, but rebuilt the raid in an ubuntu live environment, and the errors are gone |
| 01:19.01 | skyjumper | i guess something got corrupted |
| 01:19.39 | cast | Snadder: because no ones done it. there is popcon, though. maybe you should deploy and encourage such a framework! |
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| 01:20.26 | qq- | skyjumper, seems use a raid on /dev/md0 |
| 01:20.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | you can rate and comment, it just depends what you want to rate :p |
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| 01:30.33 | sec^nd | hi |
| 01:30.53 | sec^nd | i'm on debian lenny and I want to install a package but I only see it in sid, where can I get this package from ? |
| 01:31.09 | dvs | !bpo |
| 01:31.09 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo key> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo kernel> <bdo bugs> <bdo pinning> <volatile>. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100905 |
| 01:31.37 | sec^nd | thankyou :) |
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| 01:33.11 | sec^nd | http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/deluged |
| 01:33.19 | sec^nd | didn't see it in backports |
| 01:35.44 | RicKyRocK | what is the commande to import local file ? |
| 01:35.56 | qq- | , versions deluged |
| 01:35.58 | judd | Package deluged on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.3+git20100712.0b609bf-1; sid: 1.3.0-1 |
| 01:37.39 | sec^nd | hwo can I upgrade a leeny install to sid ? |
| 01:39.26 | sec^nd | nvm |
| 01:39.33 | sec^nd | lenny is the newest |
| 01:39.47 | sec^nd | -_- |
| 01:39.55 | sec^nd | I installed git and there is no git -_- |
| 01:40.00 | sec^nd | the fuck is wrong with debian ? |
| 01:41.21 | sec^nd | why would you call it git-core ? |
| 01:41.29 | sec^nd | apt-get install git -.- |
| 01:43.01 | rww | heh. on my debian testing, git-core is a transitional package to git. |
| 01:43.53 | karlpinc | !tell sec^nd about ssb |
| 01:44.51 | sec^nd | or I could just http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Linux/Debian/Lenny |
| 01:45.11 | sec^nd | -bash: arch: command not found |
| 01:45.13 | sec^nd | RAGE |
| 01:45.30 | sec^nd | uname to the rescue |
| 01:46.47 | cast | aptitude search git |
| 01:47.12 | cast | sec^nd: you're going to rage a lot if you keep doing things wrong! |
| 01:49.31 | sec^nd | I did a search and got to many results |
| 01:49.36 | karlpinc | sec^nd: (And if aptitude search is not enough there's debtags, which will extend aptitude's search capabilities as well as supply it's own interface. |
| 01:49.53 | sec^nd | what the different ce between aptitude and apt-get and apt-cache ? |
| 01:49.58 | karlpinc | sec^nd: Then you pipe the results to either grep or less. |
| 01:50.14 | karlpinc | sec^nd: The difference between aptitude and apt-get is.... |
| 01:50.16 | karlpinc | !why aptitude |
| 01:50.17 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades (lenny->squeeze) apt-get is better though. Be careful. |
| 01:50.36 | karlpinc | sec^nd: apt-cache is a completely different ball of wax. |
| 01:51.06 | sec^nd | i'm just going to install everything there is and hope that works |
| 01:51.20 | sec^nd | hehe jk |
| 01:51.34 | sec^nd | archlinux is better imo :) |
| 01:51.36 | cast | yip, when faced with choices pick them all and hope things work, good plan, good plan |
| 01:51.40 | sec^nd | debian is for servers :P |
| 01:51.44 | cast | then troll the guys who can help you |
| 01:51.55 | sec^nd | not trolling :P |
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| 01:52.18 | cast | i'd rather you didn't run sid. |
| 01:52.27 | karsten-nr | sec^nd: the difference is that apt-cache is a search tool, and you should generally use aptitude, not apt-get, for system maintenance. |
| 01:52.32 | sec^nd | :) |
| 01:52.35 | sec^nd | cast: i'm not |
| 01:52.40 | sec^nd | and I got it installed |
| 01:52.46 | karsten-nr | sec^nd: IIRC it's easier working with source debs in apt-get, though I could be wrong on that. |
| 01:52.50 | sec^nd | karsten-nr: got that :) |
| 01:53.00 | sec^nd | i've been using atp-get for so long |
| 01:53.13 | sec^nd | I thought that aptitude was and outdated version of apt-get |
| 01:53.18 | sec^nd | all this time... |
| 01:53.54 | rww | aptitude is like apt-get, except awesome. |
| 01:54.23 | karsten-nr | sec^nd: and if you're using apt-cache for search, use apt-file or auto-apt instead (the latter is the fastest). |
| 01:54.39 | karsten-nr | sec^nd: Negative. |
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| 02:03.42 | SamuraiDio | I recently update my Debian to squeeze, and now i noticed that mplayer is not showing subtitles |
| 02:04.39 | SamuraiDio | can some1 help me? |
| 02:05.33 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: you most likely don't have the right font installed that is references in ~/.mplayerc or similar. |
| 02:05.55 | Snadder | cast, how can I encourage that? |
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| 02:06.04 | Snadder | cast, who is the right people to talk to? |
| 02:07.10 | dondelelcaro | Snadder: you can make patches to packages.debian.org or similar to provide that, but it's kind of out of scope |
| 02:07.34 | dondelelcaro | Snadder: popcon is the best automated system that does it, and provides slightly more useful and less-subjective information |
| 02:08.07 | ceduardo | hi every body... regards from Colombia.. |
| 02:08.18 | ceduardo | I have a question |
| 02:08.33 | ceduardo | I have my Debian System are in Spanish. I run a program and the menus that are in your interface are combine between English and Spanish. |
| 02:08.33 | ceduardo | Is it something can be report how bug? |
| 02:09.07 | dondelelcaro | ceduardo: when the descriptions for the menu haven't been translated, they'll be in english |
| 02:09.21 | dondelelcaro | ceduardo: the best thing to do is to report a bug against the appropriate application with the menu item translated |
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| 02:10.51 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, it's set as "Sans" in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, thats a generic font. Also, there is no error msg indicating it failed to load the font |
| 02:11.51 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: are you sure that whatever file you have actually has subtitles? |
| 02:12.21 | dondelelcaro | (and you've selected the right set of subtitles, and have them enabled?) |
| 02:12.28 | ceduardo | thanks dondelelcaro, I find the package maintainer team to report and help... |
| 02:13.01 | SamuraiDio | i have the subtitles on separate files, *.sub or *.srt. They are all with the same movie names, so they should load with it |
| 02:13.56 | SamuraiDio | here: http://pastebin.com/BTgQaqB6 |
| 02:15.36 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: yeah, looks good. And you've hit v to make them visible, and you see them with j, and the OSD works, right? |
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| 02:17.10 | SamuraiDio | err... how can i check if the OSD works? :( |
| 02:17.43 | S1lv3R | how can i check dhcp errors ? |
| 02:18.48 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: by using it? o |
| 02:18.52 | petemc | the dhcp client should report errors in operation |
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| 02:19.08 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, seens that OSD is really not working |
| 02:19.33 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: so yeah, that tells me that you have a font problem |
| 02:20.10 | SamuraiDio | :'( |
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| 02:20.28 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: try picking something like fixed which you know works |
| 02:20.37 | _Techie_ | has anyone been kind enough to create a .deb for the ioncube loader, or do we still have to install it manually |
| 02:22.21 | SamuraiDio | _Techie_, it's not open source lib, so i don't think debian will have it |
| 02:22.37 | dondelelcaro | heh; what horrible closed source garbage |
| 02:22.48 | _Techie_ | i bloody know |
| 02:23.05 | _Techie_ | all iu want is a good install script so i dont have to install it by hand every time |
| 02:23.18 | _Techie_ | this sort of stuff pisses me off |
| 02:23.26 | SamuraiDio | _Techie_, maybe if the ioncube developers do it, but it's not so dificult to install it mannualy |
| 02:23.42 | dondelelcaro | _Techie_: so use alien or similar to do it; almost no one who isn't forced to use that PoS will use it willingly... |
| 02:23.45 | _Techie_ | SamuraiDio, i know its not difficult, its just annoying |
| 02:23.58 | dondelelcaro | _Techie_: your best bet will be a google search, though; it's not exactly a common piece of software to use |
| 02:24.33 | SamuraiDio | well, i'ts easy to make a script for it, since you know a bit of bash scripting. just need to detect the php version and copy the right lib, and then add a *.ini under /etc/php.d/ |
| 02:24.53 | SamuraiDio | _Techie_, ^ |
| 02:25.36 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, you mean add "fixed" as the font, right? |
| 02:25.43 | _Techie_ | SamuraiDio, except i dont know bash scripting very well, i only really do batch |
| 02:26.01 | sec^nd | where can I get ifconfig from ? |
| 02:28.00 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, added `font = "fixed"` in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf not working |
| 02:28.09 | SamuraiDio | _Techie_, have it a try |
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| 02:29.14 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: should be something like -ass-force-style FontName=Arial |
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| 02:31.24 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, still not |
| 02:33.51 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: hrm; could also be -subfont or similar; I'd play with those until you can see the osd |
| 02:34.10 | dondelelcaro | SamuraiDio: alternatively, you could install the old verison, and see if that just fixes it |
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| 02:35.01 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, well, it may, was working on lenny... but mix versions is not a good idea |
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| 02:36.36 | dondelelcaro | yerp |
| 02:36.54 | dondelelcaro | it certainly works for me in unstable, but I'm using the debian-multimedia version |
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| 02:40.52 | darkkrai | hey |
| 02:41.05 | darkkrai | when I try to enable dmz mode on my computer via the router panel, it says "The selected device has a static IP address. DMZplus requires that the selected device use DHCP to obtain its IP address." |
| 02:42.15 | petemc | darkkrai: you can configure your network card for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:42.24 | darkkrai | nvm, got it |
| 02:42.43 | petemc | fantastic then |
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| 02:45.16 | mbent | hi, I have two adsl internet connections. both in bridged mode to different nics on my pc. i can connect to only one connection from the outside, the other one doesn't respond. both authenticated successfully and both have ppp entries in ipconfig -a. any thoughts why it isn't working? |
| 02:46.25 | petemc | mbent: having 2 different gateways requires some addititional configuratiom, /msg dpkg split access |
| 02:48.50 | nsadmin | mbent, is it always the same outside connection that doesn't work? |
| 02:49.01 | mbent | nsadmin: yes |
| 02:49.36 | petemc | shit, i should read the question |
| 02:49.40 | nsadmin | which one? how can they be identified for the purpose of the conversation? |
| 02:49.41 | mbent | petemc: i thought going out would require additional configuration for load balancing, but not inwards |
| 02:50.12 | petemc | well, packets going back out are outgoing.. |
| 02:50.18 | nsadmin | do they come in on two separate phone lines? |
| 02:50.27 | mbent | nsadmin: 150.101.180.24 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 150.101.177.XXX | 150.101.180.24 dev ppp1 proto kernel scope link src 150.101.179.XXX |
| 02:50.32 | mbent | yes separate phone lines |
| 02:50.56 | nsadmin | from same provider? |
| 02:50.59 | mbent | yes |
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| 02:52.25 | nsadmin | when you say they're in bridged mode, do you mean the two connections are bridged together (forming one single pipe) or they're each in a separate bridged mode (and what are the consequences of that)? |
| 02:52.46 | mbent | each in a separate bridge mode |
| 02:53.02 | mbent | consequences? |
| 02:53.59 | nsadmin | does that mean they show up on an eth cable as straight ethernet (no pppoe or anything) and you are supposed to just connect to them? |
| 02:54.21 | mbent | yes |
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| 02:54.58 | nsadmin | ok, so you have phone -> dsl modem -> what? linksys router? |
| 02:55.28 | mbent | yes, spot on, for both |
| 02:55.35 | mbent | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/nRXr9KJC |
| 02:56.15 | mbent | the first command there, ip route, is that possibly why? - on what petemc said.... it doesn't know how to get back? |
| 02:56.16 | nsadmin | which means you have two lines, two modems and two linksys routers? |
| 02:56.21 | mbent | yes |
| 02:56.43 | nsadmin | ok, that much I understand |
| 02:57.24 | nsadmin | so the linksyses must each have a 4-port hub of which one port goes to one of your eth cards |
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| 02:57.25 | nsadmin | ? |
| 02:57.32 | mbent | yes, that is correct |
| 02:57.52 | nsadmin | and both of these eth cards are on the same machine? |
| 02:57.57 | mbent | correct |
| 02:58.09 | stew | ppp0 and ppp1 both route to the same address? |
| 02:58.19 | nsadmin | ok, got that much. |
| 02:58.30 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, I installed the testing version, 1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1 and it worked |
| 02:58.30 | nsadmin | not sure where to go next |
| 02:58.31 | mbent | ppp0 and ppp1 have different IP addresses |
| 02:58.51 | stew | mbent: so when you have a packet to be sent to 150.101.180.24 its always going to go out on ppp0, since that is the first in the table |
| 02:58.57 | nsadmin | wait, how can you have ppp0/ppp1 if you have linksys routers? |
| 02:59.06 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, seens the problem is with the security update, version 1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.1 |
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| 02:59.21 | mbent | i used pppoeconf to set up bridged connections |
| 02:59.31 | mbent | the routers are in "bridged" mode |
| 02:59.38 | nsadmin | bridged mode... ok, |
| 02:59.42 | mbent | pppoeconf picked up an "access concentrator" for both |
| 02:59.54 | nsadmin | so the ppp passes thru the routers |
| 03:00.20 | mbent | yes |
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| 03:02.06 | nsadmin | are the routers capable of handling the pppoe by themselves? |
| 03:02.16 | nsadmin | so that you don't have to? |
| 03:03.01 | mbent | i don't particularly want to change the routers because if this doesn't work, I can go back to other configuration |
| 03:03.22 | mbent | how much harder does it make this? |
| 03:03.26 | SamuraiDio | dondelelcaro, thanks for the help, i must go now |
| 03:04.43 | mbent | stew: do you mean I need to have an entry for ppp1 at the same position on that table or something? |
| 03:05.17 | stew | mbent: i think you need more than one routing table, so you can select a routing table based on src address |
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| 03:06.44 | nsadmin | does linux permit multiple routing tables? how does that work? |
| 03:07.32 | mbent | is this the kind of thing i need? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Spanning_Multiple_DSLs |
| 03:07.32 | stew | nsadmin: see /msg dpkg split access |
| 03:07.56 | stew | mbent: yes |
| 03:08.34 | nsadmin | which link describes multiple routing tables? |
| 03:09.22 | mbent | nsadmin: second one |
| 03:10.47 | stew | or mbent's |
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| 03:14.26 | mbent | stew: im looking at the lartc.org link in splitaccess. I'm a little confused about the P1_NET and P2_NET. what would mine be? |
| 03:14.43 | mbent | stew: since it's using the same service provider and same gateway |
| 03:14.51 | mbent | stew: 150.101.180.24 |
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| 03:22.28 | sec^nd | what is the best way to umount /usr and remount it to a different drive ? |
| 03:22.58 | sec^nd | I copied (rsync -a) all the files to another partition (lvm) now I want to remount it |
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| 03:26.06 | mbent | stew or nsadmin? |
| 03:27.02 | sec^nd | mbent: ? |
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| 03:27.40 | mbent | sec^nd: im having network issues |
| 03:29.49 | mbent | stew, nsadmin: okay im going to give my changes ago. hopefully it works. i'll be back soon. thanks for your help |
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| 03:30.54 | sec^nd | kk |
| 03:34.50 | mbent | stew, nsadmin: didn't work :( |
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| 03:36.22 | Talon_ | how do you change how debian reports to your router wirelessly for a device name? Windows reports your computer name, Ubuntu reports "Ubuntu" this debian squeeze shows up in my router as "UNKNOWN" |
| 03:36.25 | karlpinc | sec^nd: Go into single user mode (to make sure nothing's using /usr) and then use the mount command. Finalise your changes in /etc/fstab. |
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| 03:37.21 | karlpinc | Talon_: You don't want to cross-post to irc.debian.org. |
| 03:37.32 | karlpinc | Talon_: It's probably a dhcp client config option. |
| 03:37.41 | karlpinc | Talon_: (Random guess.) |
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| 03:38.28 | sec^nd | karlpinc: how do I get to single user mode ? |
| 03:38.52 | Talon_ | i didnt realize it wasn't freenode karlpinc |
| 03:40.40 | Talon_ | karlpinc, http://talon.linux.sh/deb-unknown.png <== example screenshot, ubuntu shows ubuntu, my windows machine shows eclipse, debian shows UNKNOWN and hp* is my wireless printer... |
| 03:41.05 | karlpinc | sec^nd: telinit 1 |
| 03:41.12 | karlpinc | sec^nd: Then "telinit 2" to get back out. |
| 03:41.39 | karlpinc | sec^nd: And don't forget to unmount before mounting. |
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| 03:43.46 | karlpinc | Talon_: It's either what the dhcp client reports or some wireless something. I am ignorant of much wireless stuff. |
| 03:44.26 | Talon_ | any idea of where the dhcp client configuration files located? maybe I can poke thru it and find the value "UNKNOWN" and just modify it |
| 03:45.16 | _Techie_ | i have a VM, i initially set it up with NAT, then changed it to bridged and set the eth0 interface up manually, now whenever i reboot eth0 doesnt come back up |
| 03:46.05 | sec^nd | kk |
| 03:46.31 | sec^nd | :) |
| 03:46.37 | sec^nd | already rebooted everything worked out fine :D |
| 03:46.54 | karlpinc | Talon_: man dhclient But you won't find UNKNOWN. You'll find that the hostname is never declared to the server because it's not configured. |
| 03:47.19 | karlpinc | _Techie_: It might, possibly, be a 70 problem. |
| 03:47.20 | karlpinc | !70 |
| 03:47.20 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 03:48.40 | karlpinc | _Techie_: But I don't do VMs and I've seen mention of similar problems that are more VM related. So.... ? |
| 03:48.53 | Talon_ | ah i uncommented it, brb gonna test it |
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| 04:12.54 | darkkrai | is there any way to init a debian session from the install disk? |
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| 04:29.05 | Talon_ | well I tried using Ubuntu's set host-name "<hostname>"; line in my dhconfig.conf file, and my hostname wound up blank.. did a lil research and its a known bug posted to debian, that ubuntu implemented its own fix.. so I just changed <hostname> to what I wanted to report and it worked. hopefully debian uses ubuntus fix, but for now at least its not "UNKNOWN" to my router :) |
| 04:39.40 | Arafangion | Ubuntu is possibly more bleeding-edge than Debian Stable. |
| 04:40.15 | simonrvn | possibly? |
| 04:40.20 | simonrvn | heh |
| 04:40.47 | cast | well, we could possibly have a 4 yo ubuntu install |
| 04:42.54 | cast | if i use the debian installer to setup / and /boot on raid1 on sdb and sda, is the installer smart enough to install the bootloader on both sides of the mirror? |
| 04:43.29 | simonrvn | !ig |
| 04:43.30 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.6) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 04:43.37 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 04:43.45 | cast | if its not in there....-_- |
| 04:43.47 | cast | reads |
| 04:43.48 | simonrvn | iirc yes, but go check ^^ |
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| 04:48.18 | cast | Support for MD is a relatively new addition to the installer. You may experience problems for some RAID levels and in combination with some bootloaders if you try to use MD for the root (/) file system. |
| 04:48.22 | cast | :( |
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| 04:53.31 | karlpinc | cast: Yeah, but I think raid1 is covered. YMMV. |
| 04:55.37 | cast | mmm, might get into strife with / being on LVM on dmcrypt on RAID1, but hopefully not :> |
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| 05:15.18 | darkkrai | is there any way to init a debian session from the install disk? |
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| 05:16.03 | richo | is there a flag/switch/setting to tell aptitude to download archives to somewhere other than /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
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| 05:22.11 | terang | apt-move ?? |
| 05:22.26 | terang | Er. |
| 05:22.50 | terang | /etc/apt/apt.conf I think should have it, at least via google =) |
| 05:22.51 | richo | Looks like I'm just symlink the direcotry |
| 05:22.53 | richo | easiest way |
| 05:23.06 | terang | Also easy. |
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| 05:45.11 | darkkrai | im installing debian over ssh :3 |
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| 05:47.04 | richo | Gah. Want firefox 3.6. I can see the rest of my day going byebye because of this |
| 05:50.19 | richo | Ah |
| 05:50.26 | richo | well that turned out to be less painful than I'd expected |
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| 06:00.37 | darkkrai | how do I get the "new" notifications that come with ubuntu? |
| 06:00.41 | darkkrai | or is that ubuntu-only? |
| 06:01.06 | rww | darkkrai: install some mix of http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=indicator-applet |
| 06:01.31 | rww | I'm not sure which do what, because I nuked them all when I used Ubuntu because they annoy me :\ |
| 06:02.08 | darkkrai | lol |
| 06:02.39 | rww | oh, and I think indicator-messages is the envelope one |
| 06:02.50 | Talon_ | I'm glad I made the switch.. I got everything I had on ubuntu working, even some stuff more up-to-date, and top shows I have 65% less background processes running in debian squeeze vs ubuntu 10.04 |
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| 06:17.00 | darkkrai | is there anyway that I can install ubuntu's liveusb creator? |
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| 06:20.38 | Bushmills | darkkrai: fir installing ubuntu packages, you may want to install ubuntu first |
| 06:20.56 | darkkrai | I'm good |
| 06:21.00 | darkkrai | ;) |
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| 06:33.14 | richo | dist-upgrade to experimental... on the bad idea scale where does this rest? |
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| 06:43.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | richo: roughly double facepalm |
| 06:44.28 | richo | Kamping_Kaiser: Good o, just checking |
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| 06:55.10 | iLLf8d | greetings all |
| 06:55.43 | iLLf8d | woa its quiet in here too |
| 06:55.47 | iLLf8d | is irc dying? |
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| 06:56.47 | petemc | its early in the morning / middle of the night in a lot of places |
| 06:57.05 | iLLf8d | yeah I know but thats geek time |
| 06:57.08 | iLLf8d | rofl |
| 06:57.28 | iLLf8d | used to be a regular on freenode for years seems way quieter today |
| 06:57.34 | iLLf8d | well tonight even |
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| 06:58.21 | petemc | can a man stand twice in the same river? |
| 06:58.45 | iLLf8d | sure depends on what he's standing on |
| 06:59.13 | petemc | no, its not the same river, its changing all the time |
| 06:59.40 | iLLf8d | I figured legs and head at the same time but he'd have to be flexible |
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| 07:00.09 | iLLf8d | yeah I bet its just an off night |
| 07:00.22 | iLLf8d | I cant imagine this place ever being quiet |
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| 07:09.30 | Fare | hum. I''m trying to root a netbook, of which the user has lost the root password :-/ |
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| 07:12.10 | terang | init=/bin/sh ftw |
| 07:12.26 | terang | Add that to your kernel line in grub |
| 07:12.30 | Fare | terang: I don't seem to have access to this netbook's bootloader |
| 07:12.45 | Fare | it's not grub, it's an ARM bootloader of some kind |
| 07:13.01 | Fare | uboot |
| 07:13.12 | terang | Ah. |
| 07:13.42 | terang | same shit though :) |
| 07:13.43 | terang | http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Uboot |
| 07:14.50 | Fare | so all I need is a serial cable to talk to it... |
| 07:15.03 | Fare | ok, will get that tomorrow |
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| 07:19.00 | Fare | goes on exploit-db.com and tries to root the machine using local exploits. |
| 07:19.46 | Fare | last time I did that, it was just a matter of using an NFS mount. But no NFS here. |
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| 07:26.56 | IRani | hi, how can I change the SSH welcome msg? |
| 07:27.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | IRani: the motd? |
| 07:27.22 | IRani | yes |
| 07:27.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.21 | IRani | thanks |
| 07:28.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | np |
| 07:28.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | note also that ssh has a prelogin message option |
| 07:36.59 | Fare | http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/14339 did it! |
| 07:37.09 | Fare | I'm now root once again on this netbook |
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| 08:12.37 | RAWRjar | Hey, I've got a situation where "sudo which X" finds the command, but "sudo X" tells me the command isn't found. What could be causing this? |
| 08:12.59 | osfd | Hi there.. I have a weird problem with amarok: http://pastebin.com/5mpASnPu anyone understand ?? |
| 08:13.31 | IRani | how should I know my server kernel is updated or not? |
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| 08:22.53 | osfd | IRani: uname -all |
| 08:22.56 | osfd | ? |
| 08:23.39 | Talon_ | isn't it just -a not -all? |
| 08:23.51 | terang | Compare it to what's latest upstream, and you can see any others that are still ther ein /boot |
| 08:24.23 | rww | osfd: uname -a or uname --all :) |
| 08:25.30 | osfd | rww: ok ok, you're right...;) |
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| 08:28.04 | darkkrai | does debian come with an ssh server by default? |
| 08:28.31 | petern_ | it comes with it, but you might need to install it |
| 08:28.44 | rww | darkkrai: It's an option during the install; if you don't select it then, install the 'openssh-server' package. |
| 08:29.21 | darkkrai | got it :) |
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| 08:29.32 | osfd | what is in ~/.kde/cache-debian/ ? |
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| 08:30.32 | wrksx | hi all. How can I see the memory usage of a process ? |
| 08:30.47 | wrksx | I looked at ps options but can't find it. |
| 08:30.56 | osfd | top | grep yourProcess |
| 08:31.13 | osfd | wrksx: top | grep yourProcess |
| 08:31.27 | wrksx | osfd, ok, thanks |
| 08:32.06 | wrksx | osfd, it doesn't work |
| 08:32.30 | wrksx | osfd, no it works but slow. |
| 08:32.34 | wrksx | sorry =) |
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| 08:34.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | apt-ftparchive takes 'a while' to build its db on a first run o.o |
| 08:34.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | 1.5 hours, and going strong -.0 |
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| 08:47.24 | Zenox | I have problems with my MySQL database and want to reinstall it. Tried removing (with purge) mysql-server* packages from APT and installing them again but all databases remain. How can I get the whole thing from scratch (clean databases with just mysql database etc)? |
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| 08:49.26 | wrksx | Zenox, you need to delete mysql datas and config by hand. |
| 08:50.00 | wrksx | Zenox, did tried to remove mysql-common ? |
| 08:50.11 | wrksx | *did you try* |
| 08:50.33 | dutchfish | Zenox: why not mysql | drop database [your db] ? |
| 08:51.09 | Zenox | wrksx: I can drop the mysql database etc by hand, but when is it recreated again? Is it by the mysql-common package? |
| 08:51.51 | Zenox | wrksx: I just tried reinstalling the mysql-server* packages, not mysql-common. Is it this one that does the installation of the mysql database table? |
| 08:51.52 | wrksx | Zenox, I don't really know, but I thought mysql-common at least contains my.cnf and other configs |
| 08:52.26 | Talon_ | i'm pretty sure thats /etc/mysql |
| 08:52.27 | wrksx | Zenox, you should try to remove mysql common, and then check the existance of mysql datas files. |
| 08:52.49 | Zenox | wrksx: Ah hmm, can try to reinstall that one too. I have backups of all the databases and can reapply them afterwards |
| 08:52.51 | dutchfish | Zenox: aptitude purge mysql-server-5.1 mysql-common && aptitude install mysql-common mysql-server-5.1 |
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| 08:53.47 | Zenox | dutchfish: Yea, I'll try that. Was hoping to be able to skip reinstalling mysql-common as it has loads of dependencies puh. But, putting on my gloves :) |
| 08:54.06 | Zenox | Thanks for the help guys, hope that package helps |
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| 09:03.22 | dutchfish | Zenox: tip: aptitude -s purge mysql-common (gives a dry run and output to save) |
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| 09:13.47 | Fare | I'm now root once again on my netbook thanks to exploit-db.com |
| 09:14.59 | terang | Is this some type of pitch? :P |
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| 09:15.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | Fare: we saw you exploit your ubuntu before... not sure we need to comment though |
| 09:16.15 | lxsys | Hi. I've got my debian server up and running, but now I'm on X. I've got fluxbox installed, and I have the appropriate lines in my gtkrc-2.0, but where does the gtkrc look for the icon files? |
| 09:18.24 | Fare | sorry, retyped in the same channel |
| 09:18.45 | Fare | the point is -- sometimes, exploits are used for good |
| 09:19.00 | rww | Fare: You just got root on a system using an exploit that was patched in June? Way to fail at security updates. |
| 09:19.00 | Fare | but it's still scary that they exist |
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| 09:19.33 | Fare | rww: the machine was distributed with an oldish image, apparently |
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| 09:20.26 | Fare | but its main problem is that when you resume, USB is dead or so, and you lose keyboard, mouse, disk... oops. |
| 09:20.39 | Fare | not that good for a netbook |
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| 09:21.35 | Fare | (my first netbook resumed from usb with a disconnect of the disk - bad when all your processes mounted that disk) |
| 09:22.23 | Fare | lxsys: you can strace -e open it, or strings the binary, etc. |
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| 09:22.39 | Fare | or dpkg -L the package |
| 09:22.59 | lxsys | and that will show me where I should put the icon files? |
| 09:23.09 | Fare | maybe |
| 09:23.30 | Fare | definitely for a strace with enough tracing enabled |
| 09:24.12 | lxsys | ok |
| 09:24.35 | Fare | rww: there are more recent vulnerabilities, but those with scripts didn't work on ARM. |
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| 09:36.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | lxsys, that's not a debian question... and you lied... if you had the appropriate lines, they would specify where the icons go... |
| 09:36.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're creating your own theme and there's tutorials that are not hard to find like http://orford.org/gtk/ |
| 09:39.28 | lxsys | CutMeOwnThroat: well i've been told that "gtk-icon-theme-name = foo" would make the icon theme named "foo" appear, but I dont know where the icon theme would have to go in the first place |
| 09:39.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you even look at the url I just gave you? |
| 09:40.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | it says there! |
| 09:40.15 | lxsys | ok I'll take a look, thanks |
| 09:41.17 | lxsys | thanks, thats perfect |
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| 10:01.56 | thewanderer1 | hi. I'm configuring a kernel for a virtualization host system (KVM/Xen/QEMU). Do I need virtio on the host? |
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| 10:21.33 | thewanderer1 | do I absolutely need kernel module support for NVIDIA drivers? |
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| 10:22.28 | Gijs | People help |
| 10:22.32 | Gijs | i got a problem with cronjobs |
| 10:22.34 | Gijs | i added: |
| 10:22.38 | Gijs | 0 * * * * php /home/gtasamp/Core/cronrestart.php |
| 10:22.49 | Gijs | but it is not running "php /home/gtasamp/Core/cronrestart.php" each hour |
| 10:22.57 | xand | try using the full path to "php". |
| 10:23.45 | JPT | you're missing the username? |
| 10:23.52 | JPT | * * * * * user command |
| 10:24.09 | xand | username not required |
| 10:24.12 | JPT | mhh |
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| 10:24.25 | xand | that's for /etc/crontab |
| 10:24.33 | xand | but user crontabs do not have it |
| 10:24.44 | JPT | hm... so is he using a user crontab? |
| 10:25.14 | Gijs | yes |
| 10:25.22 | JPT | mh.. then it should work |
| 10:25.40 | thewanderer1 | Gijs: how do you know that it's not running? |
| 10:25.47 | JPT | no cronjob mails in /var/mail/%user%? |
| 10:26.06 | Gijs | nop |
| 10:26.13 | JPT | mh :| |
| 10:26.13 | Gijs | i use the command on roots crontab |
| 10:26.33 | JPT | other commands in that crontab are working? |
| 10:26.45 | Gijs | there are no more |
| 10:27.19 | Gijs | i will try it on a normal user |
| 10:27.25 | JPT | mhh... try one that has to work. e.g. beep or echo "yep" | wall |
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| 10:29.25 | SpiderFred | hi I possibly fucked up my ubutnu when I was trying to encrypt second disk and I cant boot up, I just see black screen. so I installed debian on that second with grub, but I still can boot up non of them |
| 10:31.32 | Zambezi | I have a hard drive several people reporting to be faulty due to large sector size (4096). Where can I check the sector size I formated the drive to? I checked with hdparm -I /dev/sdX and fdisk -l /dev/sdX and think it's okay, but I want to make sure. |
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| 10:33.07 | thewanderer1 | as far as I know, new WD drives have 4KB drives |
| 10:33.17 | thewanderer1 | s/drives/sectors/ |
| 10:33.21 | thewanderer1 | or was it block |
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| 10:33.45 | thewanderer1 | fdisk checking is just fine, it always shows the right value |
| 10:34.59 | Zambezi | thewanderer1: It is a WD hard drive and when I'm about to order an extra hard drive, I don't want to buy a faulty one. |
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| 10:35.56 | thewanderer1 | have you read on WD changing the block size? there were articles on it |
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| 10:37.10 | thewanderer1 | you should align your partitions and filesystems to 4KB, too |
| 10:37.49 | Zambezi | thewanderer1: That's what I'm doing and I have not experienced that many problem. It's not connected all the time, only temporary for backup. But what happens in Windows is really not that important, but I read a thread in Arch and some guy got a lower sector size by default. |
| 10:38.47 | thewanderer1 | well, just start your partition at a multiple of 8 (64 is recommended on the Web) and all major filesystems have 4KB block size by default anyway |
| 10:38.56 | thewanderer1 | so the filesystem itself should not pose a problem |
| 10:40.08 | Zenox | wrksx: Now MySQL works like a charm again. Reinstalled everything of it including mysql-common and all dependecies. Restored users from backup and verified all functions puh. Good to have it up again. Thanks a lot for the help to all of you :) |
| 10:41.39 | Zambezi | thewanderer1: I'm using EXT3 and it's nice, but the 2 TB is just ~20 euro more expensive then 1.5 TB. So I'm not sure what to think. |
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| 10:42.46 | thewanderer1 | the disks are cheap nowadays, that's just it. go for it... |
| 10:43.27 | qwd | Zambezi: wait a minute, faulty due to large sector size? that's not true, I have one of these drives and it's not faulty in any way. it's just not very common YET |
| 10:44.44 | Zambezi | qwd: If you understand Swedish, I'm happy to give you some links about people complaining. That worries me. |
| 10:45.22 | Zambezi | qwd: But 100 euros for 2 TB is tempting. |
| 10:45.57 | qwd | Zambezi: I do understand swedish, but the problem isn't with the drive itself. |
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| 10:47.52 | Zambezi | qwd: Most people who complaint about the hard drive is typically two thing. RAID and Windows, but I'm not using Windows and I'm not using RAID. Only as seperate drive. |
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| 10:49.06 | qwd | Zambezi: this article explains the problem http://www.osnews.com/story/22872/Linux_Not_Fully_Prepared_for_4096-Byte_Sector_Hard_Drives basically you'll get bad performance unless you start your partition at the right place |
| 10:49.55 | thewanderer1 | thinks the title should be "Users not fully prepared..." :P |
| 10:51.03 | qwd | Zambezi: not a huge problem, just something you need to be aware of. it seems like parted and gparted aligns the partition correct, though don't take my word for it :) |
| 10:51.04 | Zambezi | qwd: I'm going to use it as storage drive for backup. So performance is not a problem. I think I may have a deal here. ;-) |
| 10:51.29 | lxsys | 83 |
| 10:51.45 | lxsys | uggh sorry sat on the keyboard |
| 10:51.46 | qwd | Zambezi: there's no point in taking a performance hit because you don't want to spend 2 minutes getting it right. |
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| 10:53.43 | Zambezi | qwd: You lost me with "getting it right". Do you refer to the article? Then I have to read it first. |
| 10:54.36 | qwd | Zambezi: I'm guessing this is the drive you're looking at? http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=575192 I don't think it shows up as having 4096 byte sectors but it does. |
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| 10:55.38 | Zambezi | qwd: Here: http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010372415.aspx? and here: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?o=527179 is my sources. |
| 10:56.18 | Zambezi | qwd: But you're correct. But on my links everyone is not positive. |
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| 10:59.51 | qwd | Zambezi: http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_caviar_green_2tb_review_wd20ears I'd say go for it, I have the same drive and Im very happy with it. And get it from Komplett, it's cheaper than Dustin :) |
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| 11:02.41 | DonAlex | Heya.. Anyone awake? |
| 11:03.19 | thewanderer1 | of course not, we're all in S3 suspend |
| 11:03.41 | Zambezi | qwd: Me too, so that will be my second drive. Thanks for help! |
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| 11:04.48 | Zambezi | qwd: I usually also check when someone is negative, if like a batch is faulty. A bit nervous. I hope for the best. |
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| 11:06.35 | ivank | anyone know a repo for getting kernel packages for new kernels before they're accepted into debian proper? |
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| 11:07.15 | dutchfish | ivank: stable kernels or other? |
| 11:07.27 | qwd | Zambezi: you can't know if your disk will be from the same batch anyway. anecdotes about disk reliability are almost always useless. if there's a problem just return it and get a new one. |
| 11:08.03 | ivank | ya, i want 2.6.36 for example |
| 11:08.13 | dutchfish | ivank: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.36.y.git |
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| 11:08.17 | ivank | and the machine its for will take 5 hours to compile it |
| 11:08.34 | ivank | hence looking for prebuilt packages |
| 11:08.49 | ivank | also, my other linux machine is x86_64 and i need x86_32 |
| 11:08.56 | dutchfish | ivank: the best is to do that in a subdir under /usr/src as a non-root user |
| 11:09.29 | dutchfish | ivank: arch does only aply on bins not sources with kernel |
| 11:09.53 | Zambezi | qwd: I'm going to do some reading more before I make up my mind. See you! |
| 11:10.07 | dutchfish | ivank: also ask the bot for kp-mantra |
| 11:10.08 | Xanbreon | experimental has 2.6.36 |
| 11:10.39 | Xanbreon | ymmv/might break/caveat emptor |
| 11:11.36 | dutchfish | Zambezi: for an overview http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
| 11:13.04 | Zambezi | dutchfish: Intended for Xanbreon? |
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| 11:13.22 | dutchfish | Zambezi: oops, yes, i am so sorry |
| 11:13.31 | DonAlex | Ahhh right .well this is kinda a general question but related to all distros.. How can I tie a user to a specific GDM session without affecting other uses.. ie one user can only login with standard xsession but not gnome or any other including failsafe gnome. know I can replace the .gnome/session file.. but that does not stop a failsafe session starting |
| 11:13.57 | Zambezi | dutchfish: No problem. Just want Xanbreon to see the messages. |
| 11:14.09 | Xanbreon | Huh? |
| 11:14.19 | dutchfish | Xanbreon: for an overview http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
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| 11:14.43 | Xanbreon | its ivank who wants the info about kernel ;) |
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| 11:15.13 | dutchfish | oops wrong again |
| 11:15.22 | dutchfish | ivank: for an overview http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
| 11:15.38 | Xanbreon | Worse things happen at sea ;) |
| 11:15.43 | dutchfish | sorry for the noise |
| 11:15.49 | Xanbreon | no problemo |
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| 11:21.15 | teolicy | Hi. Anything like apt-get, apt-key, et-al, to programmatically modify /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 11:21.42 | teolicy | (I'm writing in Python and I saw python-apt, but I explicitly would like an external binary in this case please) |
| 11:21.50 | teolicy | s/binary/executable/ |
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| 11:27.13 | DonAlex | Ahhh right .well this is kinda a general question but related to all distros.. How can I tie a user to a specific GDM session without affecting other uses.. ie one user can only login with standard xsession but not gnome or any other including failsafe gnome. know I can replace the .gnome/session file.. but that does not stop a failsafe session starting |
| 11:27.42 | iLLf8d | how is lenny->squeeze upgrade working at the moment? anything majorly borked? |
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| 11:28.31 | sussudio | iLLf8d: if that's what the fucktards at ovh forced on me this morning, then yes. |
| 11:28.53 | iLLf8d | forced on you? |
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| 11:29.02 | sussudio | they like to do that. force upgrades, break shit. |
| 11:29.06 | iLLf8d | I havent been in here in forever but I've seen you around for a long time |
| 11:29.22 | sussudio | last time they left me with an unbootable system |
| 11:29.33 | thewanderer1 | er. Squeeze is not even stable yet |
| 11:29.41 | thewanderer1 | how come anyone is forcing an upgrade? |
| 11:29.46 | iLLf8d | well testing is always broken its more of the degree to which things are hosed usually they're minorly hosed enough that you might not even notice things are broken =P |
| 11:30.50 | iLLf8d | usually you're forced to upgrade to get decently new versions of alot of apps |
| 11:31.57 | iLLf8d | he probably wanted to run something he couldnt in lenny |
| 11:32.05 | iLLf8d | dpkg testing |
| 11:32.05 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 11:32.16 | sussudio | this forced upgrade seems to have broken desktop-base, grub and pure-ftpd. |
| 11:32.46 | iLLf8d | grub turded I hate when that happens |
| 11:32.56 | iLLf8d | always end up chrooting your butt off to fix it |
| 11:36.21 | iLLf8d | dpkg eclipse |
| 11:36.21 | dpkg | i heard eclipse is the end of the world, or an extensible Integrated Development Environment written in Java. Available for Squeeze, removed from Lenny at <5.0.5> to resolve Debian bug #574356. http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ http://www.eclipse.org/ #eclipse on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:36.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'll force YOUR upgrade |
| 11:37.11 | iLLf8d | he's getting kinky with you |
| 11:37.15 | thewanderer1 | understands this as replacing the brain |
| 11:38.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | thewanderer1, right... hand me that jar labelled "insane" |
| 11:39.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, wonder if I can configure motion to take one picture every n seconds or so |
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| 11:40.36 | dutchfish | CutMeOwnThroat: there is an expirimental plugin for vlc i don't know if it is in debian tho (movement detection) |
| 11:40.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't need to, there's "stop-motion"! |
| 11:40.52 | iLLf8d | no damn eclipse eh that sucks |
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| 11:41.00 | iLLf8d | gonna have to run it in winders then |
| 11:41.38 | iLLf8d | thx all cyas |
| 11:41.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | dutchfish, the daemon "motion" does that splendidly, but I just want auto-trigger eveery x seconds... funny, you'd think that's the simpler task |
| 11:42.25 | dutchfish | CutMeOwnThroat: autotrigger on what? |
| 11:42.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | just fixed time... |
| 11:42.52 | cahoot | IIRC motion can do just that |
| 11:42.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | want to put something in water and watch how it dissolves over time without actually having to watch |
| 11:43.30 | cahoot | webcam or a 'real' camera? |
| 11:43.45 | Bushmills | CutMeOwnThroat: got a Canon camera? check out CHDK |
| 11:43.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | webcam... wouldn't know how to connect the digicam |
| 11:43.55 | cahoot | gphoto2 |
| 11:44.16 | dutchfish | CutMeOwnThroat: i use a macro in kdenlive for that |
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| 11:44.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, guess I can just run a bash-script that calls a commandline tool after sleep |
| 11:44.53 | dutchfish | CutMeOwnThroat: if timely stills is what you are after. |
| 11:45.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bushmills, yeah, that's great! have that installed... I thought it has that option, but couldn't find it (also, not sure my battery holds for 3 hours or so ) |
| 11:45.52 | cahoot | CutMeOwnThroat: motion's wiki lists: Take automated snapshots on regular intervals (among other options) |
| 11:46.07 | Bushmills | CutMeOwnThroat: it's a script which you can load. sunset or such |
| 11:46.21 | dutchfish | cahoot, oh very nice |
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| 11:46.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | cahoot, hm, ok - I just looked at the manpage, didn't see it... so guess I look closer |
| 11:46.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | thx all :) |
| 11:47.02 | Bushmills | CutMeOwnThroat: the display consumes most power. turn it off, by sticking a tooth pick into the video socket |
| 11:47.09 | dutchfish | Bushmills: thanks for the CHDK hint, helps me alot ! |
| 11:47.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bushmills, that's probably true... I have a "disp" switch |
| 11:48.23 | Bushmills | another great script is for motion detection |
| 11:48.26 | cahoot | CutMeOwnThroat: http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/SnapshotsWebCam |
| 11:48.35 | dutchfish | Bushmills: on some canon (i use HD100) you can turn it off in the menu too |
| 11:48.58 | Bushmills | i.e. trigger snapshot once there's sufficient change in front of the lense |
| 11:56.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | cahoot, right, dat's der bunny, thx.... I can see I'll have fun with this :) watch plants move? |
| 11:58.23 | Bushmills | CutMeOwnThroat: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/UBASIC/Scripts:_Time_lapse_script_variable_shutter_speed |
| 11:59.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | how long did your battery last when you leave the camera on on motion detection, btw? |
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| 12:01.23 | Bushmills | longer then i cared to take shots. but again, with display turned off by stick. |
| 12:01.37 | Bushmills | it shot about 400 pics during that session |
| 12:01.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought of running over night on a different thing |
| 12:02.14 | Bushmills | running on two Sanyo 2700 mAh NiMH |
| 12:02.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, they got a wiki now... thx, hadn't seen that |
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| 12:21.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh, a lot more happening there than I thought |
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| 13:02.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, that gnome weather applet sucks, should be a way to fiddle your own little town in there |
| 13:02.56 | thewanderer1 | I thought it only gets the info from METAR |
| 13:03.27 | thewanderer1 | if your own little town doesn't have a code assigned, it won't work... |
| 13:04.00 | thewanderer1 | why not get/build atmospheric sensors and interface them to your USB? :P |
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| 13:04.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | nah, datase can get data from 5km off in Switzerland |
| 13:04.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the forcea applet gets it for this town... dunno where from |
| 13:05.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | and all kinds of internet services will also tell you for the exact town |
| 13:05.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, it's not _so_ bad, the next location is only about 3km off |
| 13:05.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | 30km* |
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| 13:06.02 | qwd | CutMeOwnThroat: I *think* I emailed them once and got the reply that no one is working on it anymore |
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| 13:07.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | but öthere's a lot of local fluctuations here,and 30km in the right direction can _easily_ make the difference between fog and no-fog |
| 13:08.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | qwd, could you hack it open or found something much better? |
| 13:08.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's ... gdesklets? |
| 13:08.49 | qwd | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563488 |
| 13:10.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | I see |
| 13:11.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | so locations are in libgweather-common |
| 13:12.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | or possibly not |
| 13:13.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the plugin/applet/runtime tingy is in libgweather1 |
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| 13:15.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | qwd, oi... just looking at this, every single location is listed in the source... I'd have thought you pull locations from what's available in services on the net |
| 13:16.52 | qwd | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know any code, I just know that yr.no would be one of the best places to get weather data from (not sure if this is true outside of europe) :) |
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| 13:17.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean this doesn't look like a lot of fun... adding hundreds of thousands of locations to the actual source... |
| 13:18.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | which someone seems to have done... hopefully with the aid of a script |
| 13:18.19 | meltphace | hey, with the latest 2.6.32-5 release, my machine doesn't boot at all. modprobe just sits there spinning on one of my cores for a minute or so, then a log message shows up that says that modprobe is taking like a minute to run |
| 13:19.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | that sounds as if it does boot, though |
| 13:19.10 | meltphace | well it doesn't get through the boot process |
| 13:19.22 | meltphace | becuase it can't load any kernel modules because modprobe won't run |
| 13:20.18 | meltphace | ah, this is the message BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [modprobe:95] |
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| 13:20.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | which architecture? |
| 13:20.39 | meltphace | amd64 |
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| 13:21.07 | slidesinger-lt | General question interpreting the output of cat /proc/interrupts. There are three columns, the first being the interrupt number, the last being what is using the interrupt. Does anyone know what the middle column of numbers means? |
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| 13:21.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz |
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| 13:22.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't look to me like any of those would do that... only thing slightly connected with modules is linux-image: Include modules.order in image packages (Closes: #598518) |
| 13:22.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you checked the bts but didn't find anything? |
| 13:23.26 | meltphace | well i foudn this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=567832 |
| 13:23.42 | meltphace | which describes my problem but occurs under different circumstances |
| 13:26.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, not much about what actually goes wrong |
| 13:27.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | and that's on the -trunk packages |
| 13:28.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | while yours is not |
| 13:28.21 | meltphace | yeah. |
| 13:29.04 | meltphace | well, i've been considering spinning my own for awhile, i'm just lazy. it'd fix other issues as well, like k10temp support and better alsa drivers |
| 13:29.12 | meltphace | problem is i don't know if fglrx will even run on a newer kernel.. |
| 13:29.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | and when you go back to older versions of 2.6.32-5-amd64 , those work? |
| 13:29.52 | meltphace | i haven't been able to try that. I'm on 2.6.32-3 right now |
| 13:30.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | that one works? |
| 13:30.04 | meltphace | yes |
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| 13:30.13 | meltphace | when i upgraded 32-5, i was running 32-5 |
| 13:30.20 | meltphace | and i noticed modprobe didn't work because i tried using it |
| 13:30.30 | meltphace | it just sit there and hung with 100% cpu usage on 1 core |
| 13:30.49 | jackweb | Hello! Which variable do I have to `export´ in order to make `ls` colored? |
| 13:30.49 | meltphace | sat* so i stupidly rebooted the machine and of course it didn't get thru the boot process |
| 13:30.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, dunno how to debug that cleverly on boot... but you could see with which kernel the bug appears first, that should give a clue |
| 13:31.02 | jackweb | (I mean Bash :)) |
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| 13:31.09 | meltphace | yeah |
| 13:31.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | !sdo |
| 13:31.27 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 13:32.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | jackweb, it's an alias, it should already be set in your .bashrc or .profile |
| 13:32.52 | jackweb | ah, alias, yeah, thanks :) |
| 13:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.09 | jackweb | thanks :) |
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| 14:18.05 | sussudio | "we changed your sources from stable to unstable because your harddisk has bad sectors" < does this make sense to anyone at all? i'm pretty sure it does not. |
| 14:18.30 | sussudio | unless they thought sources.list somehow reflects the state of your harddisk... |
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| 14:23.27 | babilen | sussudio: It does not |
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| 14:24.29 | babilen | sussudio: where is this from? |
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| 14:24.43 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 14:24.51 | babilen | welcome |
| 14:25.22 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to do 'ls /home/*/foo' however I am getting an error saying '/home/*/foo' does not exist. This works fine on my Arch Linux install, but not with Lenny, both using Bash |
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| 14:26.25 | sussudio | babilen: OVH |
| 14:26.52 | jhutchins_lt | What's the command to update initramfs? |
| 14:27.09 | sussudio | jhutchins: that with a dash? |
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| 14:29.06 | jhutchins_lt | Yup. |
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| 14:30.46 | xand | AlexC_: then there is no match (or no readable match) |
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| 14:38.46 | AlexC_ | xand no there is readable matches |
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| 14:40.54 | thewanderer1 | Squeeze/Sid. HAL doesn't let me mount a Samsung mp3 player (usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning -- I see this infinitely). I've removed HAL and the device mounts just happily... |
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| 14:44.00 | Jef91 | Is there a way I can easily compile multiple .deb packages I have into a single package? |
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| 14:46.18 | thepro4ever | how can i install the latest version of boost?? i see the package libboost1.40-all-dev but .43 is the latest |
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| 14:47.40 | yakamo | can anyone direct me to a good site about setting up debian on my acer aspire timelinex which has some great powers saving features and dual graphics cards |
| 14:47.43 | yakamo | ? |
| 14:47.50 | Jef91 | thepro4ever Compile it from source or look for a .deb elsewhere on the net |
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| 14:52.45 | jhutchins_lt | thewanderer1: I thought udev replaced hal. |
| 14:53.42 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions boost |
| 14:53.44 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'boost' was found in i386. |
| 14:54.09 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libboost1 |
| 14:54.10 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libboost1' was found in i386. |
| 14:54.17 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libboost1.4 |
| 14:54.19 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libboost1.4' was found in i386. |
| 14:54.49 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions libboost-python |
| 14:54.51 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libboost-python' was found in i386. |
| 14:54.57 | jhutchins_lt | Sigh. |
| 14:55.04 | thepro4ever | its hopeless |
| 14:55.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libboost-dev |
| 14:55.17 | judd | Package libboost-dev on i386 -- etch: 1.33.1-10; lenny: 1.34.1-14; sid: 1.42.0.1; squeeze: 1.42.0.1 |
| 14:55.52 | thepro4ever | awesome, i'll go upgrade from lenny to squeeze so i can get the new version of boost |
| 14:56.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | what version did you want? |
| 14:56.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's no need to upgrade for just that |
| 14:56.24 | thepro4ever | well 1.43 and that last line was meant as a joke |
| 14:56.32 | jhutchins_lt | thepro4ever: I thought you'd been around long enough to know about ssb |
| 14:56.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's the development package, though... dunno what you actually need |
| 14:56.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell thepro4ever -about ssb |
| 14:56.51 | thepro4ever | ssb? |
| 14:57.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhutchins_lt, my psychic abilities are getting better, eh? |
| 14:57.24 | thepro4ever | i think i already did that enable backports bit when i was first stumbling around in the channel |
| 14:57.26 | jhutchins_lt | CutMeOwnThroat: We always strive to improve. |
| 14:57.42 | thepro4ever | it finds the 40 version but nothing highers |
| 14:57.53 | jhutchins_lt | So I wonder what this fad for latest-greatest-python is all about. |
| 14:58.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't help, if people don't read the factoids, though :( |
| 14:58.12 | jhutchins_lt | thepro4ever: Interesting, as judd didn't even list 40. |
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| 14:59.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | sid: 1.42.0.1? |
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| 14:59.50 | thepro4ever | jhutchins_lt: libboost1.40-all-dev my apt finds this |
| 15:00.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, there's also versioned package names and some of them might be in backports... |
| 15:01.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it's difficult to check on those, s you have to check for each version/package name with judd... |
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| 15:06.57 | hero100era | Does any body knows how to mount usb-disk automatically? I use ext. usb-disk as boot disk, but one NTFS partition can't mount |
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| 15:08.38 | hero100era | when I click the partition in nautilus, it is failed, and I only can mount it with $sudo mount /dev/sdb2 |
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| 15:14.53 | AmberJ | hero100era: You may not have root privileges in nautilus, Try "sudo nautilus" and then click partition from nautilus. |
| 15:15.24 | AmberJ | For automounting, see hotplugd (not sure if this applies to debian) |
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| 15:18.51 | magyar | hi, how can i clone a remote server to an image? |
| 15:19.21 | thewanderer1 | magyar: while running? that would be quite a feat |
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| 15:20.14 | thewanderer1 | the normal way of imaging implies shutting down the system to get its disk image in a bootable state |
| 15:20.16 | hero100era | AmberJ: I dont want to run sudo nautilus every time, I just want this feature just as ubuntu, wen I click, it mount. that's it. |
| 15:20.33 | thewanderer1 | hero100era: add your user to plugdev and fuse |
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| 15:21.10 | hero100era | thewanderer1: I will try.. |
| 15:21.20 | thewanderer1 | you need to relogin, too |
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| 15:34.44 | pertl | can someone help? I want to add some path in /usr/local/{my-package}/bin to the system wide search path... |
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| 15:36.33 | thewanderer1 | it would be a lot easier to symlink that... |
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| 15:37.34 | hero100era | still not working... |
| 15:37.38 | thewanderer1 | there's no "system-wide search path", it is set by scripts and similar during launch of programs and daemons, that's why it might be a daunting task (how many scripts reset PATH to a known value)? |
| 15:38.02 | thewanderer1 | hero100era: can you at least mount the filesystem as user? |
| 15:38.34 | hero100era | I can mount it use $ sudo mount /dev/usb2 |
| 15:39.08 | hero100era | just can automount it by clicking in nautilus |
| 15:39.35 | hero100era | thewanderer1: I can mount it use $ sudo mount /dev/usb2,just can automount it by clicking in nautilus |
| 15:39.45 | jhutchins_lt | I know mounting usb devices mostly works in kde, no idea what does it in grub. |
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| 15:40.02 | thewanderer1 | you must mean GNOME |
| 15:40.14 | jhutchins_lt | hero100era: It would probably help if you were to read the error messages in the logs. |
| 15:40.49 | thewanderer1 | hero100era: try `pmount` program - I've had much success with it in the past... I have no idea how it works with ntfs, but is worth a try |
| 15:40.51 | babilen | pertl: You might also want to look into "stow" → /msg dpkg stow and /msg dpkg stow usage |
| 15:41.06 | pertl | babilen: thanks |
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| 15:42.54 | hero100era | Unable to mount Videos |
| 15:43.02 | hero100era | Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: |
| 15:43.04 | hero100era | Error opening '/dev/sdb2': Permission denied |
| 15:43.06 | hero100era | Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Permission denied |
| 15:43.08 | hero100era | Please check '/dev/sdb2' and the ntfs-3g binary permissions, |
| 15:43.10 | hero100era | and the mounting user ID. More explanation is provided at |
| 15:43.12 | hero100era | http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#unprivileged |
| 15:44.52 | hero100era | it looks I have to give up.. |
| 15:45.04 | thewanderer1 | there is a solution at the website... |
| 15:45.25 | thewanderer1 | unless you hate SUID binaries as much as I do, you can make use of that |
| 15:45.44 | hero100era | there is no solution fit for me.. I don't want to set suid |
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| 15:46.09 | thewanderer1 | NTFS is an ugly beast, not supported very well... |
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| 15:46.20 | eshat | Hi all |
| 15:46.21 | thewanderer1 | and I suppose that Ubuntu does that by a SETUID binary :P |
| 15:46.35 | hero100era | thewanderer1: thanks any way.. |
| 15:47.05 | eshat | I installed the 2.6.36 kernel from experimental. but the nvidia-kernel package is for the 2.6.32, how do I get support for my running 2.6.36 ? |
| 15:47.27 | thewanderer1 | compile that on your own |
| 15:47.52 | eshat | thewanderer1: I have no Ida where ti begin |
| 15:48.09 | Jef91 | eshat use the nvidia binary driver from their homepage |
| 15:48.13 | thewanderer1 | do you really want a package from experimental, then? :P |
| 15:48.16 | Jef91 | when running that it wil compile the module for you |
| 15:48.17 | jhutchins_lt | eshat: Then why are you running experimental code? |
| 15:48.27 | jhutchins_lt | Heh. |
| 15:48.28 | thewanderer1 | Jef91: holy penguin, don't even suggest running that pile of crap |
| 15:48.42 | Jef91 | Don't argue with results thewanderer1 |
| 15:48.45 | Jef91 | it works |
| 15:48.50 | eshat | jhutchins_lt: because I need to use the latest kernel |
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| 15:49.12 | thewanderer1 | well, you can just install the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 15:49.13 | jhutchins_lt | eshat: You're just asking for trouble. |
| 15:49.20 | thewanderer1 | as far as I know, it pulls in the dkms part currently |
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| 15:49.32 | meltphace | anyone know if fglrx is incompatible with 2.6.36? |
| 15:49.42 | thewanderer1 | then you get the kernel headers installed and dkms should compile the NVIDIA module... |
| 15:49.48 | jhutchins_lt | meltphace: No, it's not. |
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| 15:49.52 | thewanderer1 | that is, if Linus decided to keep compatibility this time :P |
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| 15:50.11 | meltphace | jhutchins_lt: not incompatible or not compatible ;P |
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| 15:50.47 | jhutchins_lt | meltphace: Why would it be incompatible? |
| 15:51.28 | meltphace | jhutchins_lt: i don't know, i remember reading somewhere that it was |
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| 15:51.39 | meltphace | i'm about to boot into my fresh built 2.6.36 so i'll see i guess |
| 15:51.54 | eshat | thewanderer1: hmmm, there are missing deendencies for the 2.6.36 kernel headers... |
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| 15:55.08 | diago | Hello, I'm having an issue with LVM. One of my lv is showing up as suspended and I can't not change it |
| 15:55.47 | diago | dmesg states that the partition is too small for the target |
| 15:57.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Jef91, and the result using the driver from the nvidia homepage is breakage after a while... tested thousands of times ... don't argue with the results! |
| 15:57.55 | Jef91 | Not if you know how to manage your system CutMeOwnThroat. |
| 15:58.08 | Jef91 | If you expect it to behave like a normal debian package then yes |
| 15:58.12 | Jef91 | It will break eventually. |
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| 16:01.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's still trouble, only you know how to fix it... and if he knew, he wouldn't have to ask here, so please don't suggest "solutions" that will break |
| 16:01.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | and just have people come back in a month or so |
| 16:02.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh, lalalag |
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| 16:03.08 | jargon- | no pygame in the repos? |
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| 16:04.42 | jargon- | oh. it's python-pygame. |
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| 16:07.09 | meltphace | can anyone direct me to a resource on how to create packages for modules? |
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| 16:14.15 | thewanderer1 | diago: bad blocks issue? check the SMART status |
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| 16:17.06 | wamty | "depends: python-2.5-qt4-core but is not going to be installed" |
| 16:17.08 | wamty | on my phone |
| 16:18.21 | wamty | anyone? |
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| 16:20.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | what version of debian is this? |
| 16:21.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | melt.... gorn |
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| 16:21.49 | wamty | n900 |
| 16:22.19 | wamty | CutMeOwnThroat: maemo5 :) |
| 16:22.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's running maemo... there's #maemo |
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| 16:31.43 | meltphace | well, now i'm not getting sound from the front jack on my computer. realtek alc892 (snd-hda-intel) w/ 2.6.36-amd64 |
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| 16:45.04 | rue_house | if I want to have a checklist of items to upgrade whats a gui that might work for me, I usually do everything command line apt-get |
| 16:47.23 | Xanbreon | Synaptic maybe? |
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| 16:56.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | that gnome tingy |
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| 16:57.07 | _stefanos_ | Good evening everyone |
| 16:58.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | rue_house, update-manager in update-manager-gnome |
| 16:58.46 | _stefanos_ | is anyone using dokuwiki to help me with permissions please? I cannot configure my dokuwiki due to permissions restriction and i have tried to change a few things and does not work. |
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| 17:06.45 | jhutchins | _stefanos_: docuwiki really isn't debian, but I'll bet they have mailing lists, forums, and/or an irc channel. |
| 17:07.23 | _stefanos_ | i know thanks. The problem though is with Debian's permissions |
| 17:07.53 | _stefanos_ | with Red Hat all I had to do was to go to /var/www/ and find the dokuwiki folder and change permissions accordingly. |
| 17:08.09 | jhutchins | wamty: Projects with smaller populations like mameo are usually better supported in the forums/lists. |
| 17:08.23 | _stefanos_ | with debian i have to find the various pieces in many places |
| 17:09.39 | CodeNinja | _stefanos_: dpkg -L docuwiki would probably help with the locations |
| 17:10.05 | _stefanos_ | yeah I have found the location for every element, i need to change the permissions. cheers |
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| 17:10.34 | riot | hi |
| 17:10.56 | riot | does debians qemu package include GL? |
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| 17:12.11 | diago | is it possible to change the size of a volume group? |
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| 17:13.26 | _stefanos_ | ok fixed it; it was a group ownership issue |
| 17:14.59 | superlinux | hi. does anyone here know a title of a book that discusses and explains all kinds of I.T, licenses ? |
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| 17:17.14 | jordanm | superlinux: the best explination of a license is the license itself |
| 17:17.22 | robokop | diago: vgextend |
| 17:17.54 | diago | robokop: I should have been more specific, I actually need to shrink it |
| 17:17.56 | superlinux | jordanm, isn't there any book that gathers them all? |
| 17:18.05 | diago | from 500G to 300G |
| 17:18.15 | jordanm | superlinux: there are likely millions. anyone can make up a license, even you |
| 17:18.28 | robokop | diago: vgreduce |
| 17:18.35 | jordanm | whether it would hold water in court is another story |
| 17:18.44 | diago | I royally messed up and some how have a pv of 300G but the vg is set to 500G |
| 17:18.54 | superlinux | true.. but there should be one |
| 17:19.00 | diago | now I am having issues with the last lv |
| 17:19.06 | diago | in the group |
| 17:19.09 | superlinux | i am going to look in amazon |
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| 17:19.45 | superlinux | maybe I find a title.. cos not every one is a solicitor |
| 17:20.03 | diago | apparently those two tools only add or remove pv from a vg |
| 17:20.13 | diago | I need to reduce the size the vg thinks it is |
| 17:20.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | superlinux, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_licenses |
| 17:20.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | superlinux, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses |
| 17:21.12 | phorce1 | ok, apropos scsi isn't finding what I need. How does one force a full scan of the scsi bus(es)? |
| 17:21.31 | superlinux | CutMeOwnThroat, ok fine |
| 17:21.36 | phorce1 | I think I'm missing some tools on the machine I need to do this on |
| 17:21.47 | elik | I want to create a directory where whatever is moved in it end up inheriting a certain uid/gid. I thought setgid on directory was the answer, but it seems only affects what is created in it (touch, mkdir, etc) :( |
| 17:23.16 | superlinux | i found this on amazon : "The law of computer technology : rights, licenses, liabilities " |
| 17:24.19 | phorce1 | never mind, I was missing a bunch of scsi tools on that machine. aptinstalling now |
| 17:25.17 | robokop | diago: can you pastebin {pv,vg}display for me? |
| 17:25.39 | diago | robokop: it looks like running pvresize set the vg correctly |
| 17:25.49 | diago | I'm going to try and mount with my eyes closed |
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| 17:27.45 | robokop | diago: i already found it strange since vg's should recalculate their size automatisch |
| 17:28.15 | thewanderer1 | what's a channel about virtualisation? |
| 17:28.23 | diago | it's looking like the lv that was giving me problems is doomed |
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| 17:30.17 | robokop | diago: if the lv was in the vg but didn't fit in the resized vg then it might be doomed indeed |
| 17:30.25 | diago | well looks like I lost all of my flac music :( |
| 17:30.52 | diago | The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 52428800 blocks |
| 17:30.52 | diago | The physical size of the device is 23592960 blocks |
| 17:31.02 | robokop | diago: does the lv still exist according to lvdisplay |
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| 17:31.09 | squisher | hi folks, I'm trying to migrate my server... I've copied my config files but I'm wondering about the debconf database |
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| 17:31.21 | squisher | is there some nice way of migrating the answers stored there? |
| 17:31.45 | diago | robokop: yeah it does and reports 90G which is what I resized it to this morning when all hell broke lose |
| 17:31.47 | jhutchins | !debconf |
| 17:31.47 | dpkg | [debconf] Debian's configuration management system for packages, giving a single interface for asking and storing configuration-related settings for packages. http://wiki.debian.org/debconf http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html . Not to be confused with the yearly Debian Conference (DebConf): http://wiki.debian.org/DebConf https://www.debconf.org/ |
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| 17:32.29 | robokop | diago: can you give me the {pv,vg,lv}display |
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| 17:33.12 | squisher | jhutchins, was that supposed to help me? |
| 17:33.24 | diago | sure one sec |
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| 17:34.46 | diago | robokop: http://pastie.org/1260428 |
| 17:35.00 | diago | My problem child is vg media, lv music |
| 17:36.08 | diago | at this point trying to mount music gives the wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock error |
| 17:38.13 | robokop | diago: what fs type should lv music have? |
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| 17:42.17 | jhutchins | squisher: I believe that debconf reads and stores all of it's info in the normal config files, but I'm not certain of that. |
| 17:43.06 | diago | robokop: ext4 |
| 17:43.17 | diago | I even tried mount -t ext4 |
| 17:44.16 | squisher | jhutchins, I don't think that's the case. There is something in debconf-utils called debconf-get-selection, but it doesn't extract the stored passwords for example |
| 17:44.28 | robokop | have you resized the ext4 partition before you resized the lv resize? |
| 17:45.22 | diago | robokop: no |
| 17:46.28 | robokop | diago: hmm, that might be a problem |
| 17:46.36 | diago | LOL... |
| 17:47.43 | robokop | diago: i don't know how to help you with that, never worked with ext4 |
| 17:48.06 | diago | no, thanks for the help anyway. I'll just have to start ripping again I guess |
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| 17:49.28 | diago | e2fsck is bombing big time so I think I'm pretty screwed |
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| 17:50.53 | dclarke | my lenny system says "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempint to use a different one." with an "OK" idiot button. I click OK and the screen goes black and then I get the same message again over and over. Anything obvious I shoulc check ? |
| 17:51.08 | squisher | diago, I didn't get the start of the conversation, but if you end up with the partition start at the wrong block then e2fsck is not going to help you at all afaik |
| 17:53.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dclarke, /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably |
| 17:54.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | it should actually offer you to show you |
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| 17:55.03 | dclarke | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks .. let me look there .. let's see |
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| 17:58.10 | dclarke | not really helpful : AUDIT: Sat Oct 30 13:57:10 2010: 2944 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 105) |
| 17:58.31 | dclarke | looks like an xauth issue |
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| 18:01.22 | diago | squisher: what i have done is resized an lv before resizing the file system on it |
| 18:01.31 | diago | know I think I'm dead in the water |
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| 18:02.24 | squisher | diago, as far as I can see that shouldn't kill the superblock - maybe it'll kill a lot of your data, sure |
| 18:02.34 | squisher | depending on how important this is to you, I'd recommend to ask on the lvm mailing list |
| 18:03.02 | diago | squisher: it was just my cd collection in FLAC, I'll just start ripping again |
| 18:03.17 | diago | lessoned learned |
| 18:04.05 | diago | the start of the problem... I added a PV, created a VG on it that was 200G more than the PV (not even sure how that happend) |
| 18:04.15 | squisher | diago, in general try to avoid downsizing file systems |
| 18:04.16 | squisher | ah ok |
| 18:04.30 | diago | added lvms, everything worked fine until next reboot |
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| 18:20.27 | _Brandon_ | hi, anyone knows a good bandwidth monitor with a web interface? |
| 18:21.52 | tensorpudding | cacti? |
| 18:22.15 | tensorpudding | probably overkill |
| 18:23.14 | _Brandon_ | I haven't tried it yet, I need to use it on a firewall, to show the bandwidth usage of each ip |
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| 18:28.35 | phorce1 | yuck. cciss. regular scsi tools useless |
| 18:29.03 | phorce1 | aptitude purge [lots of stuff I don't need] |
| 18:31.44 | xingu | _Brandon_: ntop? |
| 18:32.25 | _Brandon_ | xingu: thanks I'll try it |
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| 18:35.12 | sort_-R | Why don't they make it a single SHIT !!! (pango+cairo) |
| 18:36.21 | aPpYe | I am creating a simple script that will run a few commands, play a movie with mplayer, and then run more commands once mplayer is complete. how do I format the mplayer command so as to be able to associate file types (avi, mkv, mp4, etc) with the script and have mplayer launch the movie? |
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| 19:00.09 | rudi_s | apineda: apt-get source packagename and dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:00.31 | rudi_s | (Also add sid to your sources.list.) |
| 19:00.50 | rudi_s | If no debian packages exists, you'll have to package it yourself (or just install the package only in your HOME). |
| 19:01.09 | vsmatck | Section 7.14 has info too. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
| 19:01.16 | apineda | dpkg-buildpackage will handle the make install etc? |
| 19:01.31 | rudi_s | apineda: If the package is already packaged for debian, yes. |
| 19:01.40 | vsmatck | dpkg abstracts the specific build system the program uses. |
| 19:01.41 | dpkg | vsmatck: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 19:01.44 | rudi_s | It creates a .deb package which you can later install with dpkg or aptitude. |
| 19:01.58 | vsmatck | I wasn't talking to you dpkg!! |
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| 19:03.17 | apineda | apineda: If the package is already "packaged" for debian, yes. As in configured? |
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| 19:05.42 | vsmatck | You going to answer your own question, or may I? :) |
| 19:06.18 | apineda | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:06.41 | vsmatck | Doh. Anyways. You're thinking of "./configure && make" right? |
| 19:07.11 | apineda | yeah |
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| 19:08.56 | vsmatck | Ah, that is only a specific build system (albeit a popular one) called automake. But the software in the debian repository may be built with many different build systems. |
| 19:09.21 | vsmatck | Each software can have it's own build instructions. dpkg records this info and provides a common interface through which to build all software. |
| 19:09.59 | vsmatck | So short answer is ./configure has nothing to do with dpkg. Although dpkg might do that for a specific package if it needs to. |
| 19:10.46 | vsmatck | Most debian users don't build their own software unless they need to modify the source code of the software. Is this what you're doing? |
| 19:12.06 | apineda | no |
| 19:12.09 | apineda | just messing around |
| 19:12.19 | apineda | but i want to build it and have it work with dpkg for updates/removal |
| 19:12.48 | apineda | out of curiousity what other common build systems are there |
| 19:13.37 | vsmatck | There's tons and tons. heh. There's like automake, scons, waf, cmake, make, .. ehh. Tons of them. |
| 19:14.22 | vsmatck | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_build_automation_software Tons!! |
| 19:14.25 | apineda | i retract my question. make is fine. .. |
| 19:14.26 | apineda | hehe |
| 19:15.25 | vsmatck | It's extra effort to package your own software for dpkg. But sometimes debian users will get a source package, modify a few lines of code, increment version number by 1, and build it themselves. |
| 19:16.18 | vsmatck | One linux distribution that has interesting package management is gentoo. You install the base system from binaries. Then you build all updates. (is my understanding, not a gentoo user) |
| 19:16.45 | vsmatck | This has the advantage of letting you get at compile time options. In debian we try to have reasonable defaults. |
| 19:17.50 | vsmatck | AFK, chips and dew!!111 :D~ |
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| 19:50.03 | rue_house | did something replace iceweasel |
| 19:50.19 | rue_house | why do we have to switch names every version |
| 19:50.21 | rue_house | ? |
| 19:50.43 | rue_house | if your discontinuing an old version, there is no point changing the name |
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| 19:51.34 | rue_house | is it called firebug now? |
| 19:52.32 | rue_house | whats iceowl? |
| 19:52.46 | xyan | judd: versions iceweasel |
| 19:52.47 | judd | Package iceweasel on i386 -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.12-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.13-1; sid: 3.5.15-1; experimental: 3.6.12-1 |
| 19:52.47 | rue_house | greasemonkey? |
| 19:52.57 | xyan | firebug is a debugging extension to firefox i think |
| 19:53.01 | xyan | iceowl is thunderbird |
| 19:53.04 | xyan | and the names didnt change |
| 19:53.24 | rue_house | ah so, thunderbird is icedove |
| 19:53.27 | rue_house | which is iceowl |
| 19:53.31 | rue_house | aka EMAIL |
| 19:53.42 | xyan | er oh right icedove |
| 19:53.53 | xyan | iceowl is sunbird! |
| 19:53.53 | rue_house | I want web browser, and i dont care what the hell its called |
| 19:53.59 | xyan | the calender thing |
| 19:54.02 | rue_house | wtf is sunbird? |
| 19:54.05 | rue_house | ugh |
| 19:54.24 | rue_house | and people critisize newbs for not knowing how to use liux |
| 19:54.24 | xyan | anyway to answer your question, firefox is still called iceweasel. |
| 19:54.33 | rue_house | ok |
| 19:54.39 | rue_house | aka netscape :) |
| 19:54.56 | rue_house | so, why cant my system update iceweasel |
| 19:55.12 | rue_house | iceweasel: Depends: xulrunner-1.9.1 (>= 1.9.1.13) but it is not going to be installed |
| 19:55.32 | xyan | are you upgrading to squeeze or something? |
| 19:55.37 | xyan | do you have mixed sources? |
| 19:55.45 | xyan | ^^ this sort of problem shouldnt happen on lenny |
| 19:55.49 | rue_house | its a long story, its a interdistribution upgrade |
| 19:56.00 | xyan | anyway explicitly install iceweasel and xulrunner |
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| 19:56.14 | xyan | if theres no new enough xulrunner version you will have to wait for it |
| 19:56.17 | rue_house | However the following packages replace it: |
| 19:56.17 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.17 | rue_house | E: Package xulrunner has no installation candidate |
| 19:56.28 | rue_house | ? |
| 19:56.34 | xyan | judd: versions xulrunner |
| 19:56.35 | judd | Package xulrunner on i386 -- etch: 1.8.0.15~pre080614i-0etch1; etch-security: 1.8.0.15~pre080614i-0etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1.8.1.14-3.1; squeeze-multimedia: 1.8.1.14-3.1 |
| 19:56.47 | xyan | hrm i see |
| 19:57.00 | xyan | so it seems like iceweasel still depends on a removed package |
| 19:57.35 | rue_house | if I dont touch that I cant install... oh gad... what was I trying to install... |
| 19:57.52 | rue_house | synaptic |
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| 19:59.03 | Tramp | judd: versions xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 19:59.04 | judd | Package xulrunner-1.9.1 on i386 -- lenny-backports: 1.9.1.12-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.9.1.13-1; sid: 1.9.1.15-1 |
| 19:59.46 | rue_house | is squeeze testing? |
| 19:59.51 | Tramp | yes |
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| 19:59.58 | rue_house | ok, I'm on testing |
| 20:00.08 | rue_house | well, mostly.. |
| 20:00.18 | rue_house | were working on it... |
| 20:02.17 | rue_house | so am I right that if I tried to install squeeze from scratch it wouldn't have acess to icewaesel? |
| 20:02.53 | Tramp | what makes you think so? |
| 20:02.55 | amphi | rue_house: no |
| 20:03.06 | rue_house | so what would a fresh install use? |
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| 20:03.25 | Tramp | iceweasel with xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:03.31 | rue_house | casue iceweasel depeds on xulrunner |
| 20:03.36 | Tramp | no |
| 20:03.40 | rue_house | which ... but... |
| 20:03.43 | Tramp | it depends on xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:04.10 | rue_house | iceweasel: Depends: xulrunner-1.9.1 (>= 1.9.1.13) but it is not going to be installed |
| 20:04.24 | rue_house | cause there is no xulrunner package anymore |
| 20:04.28 | Tramp | yes. That's not xulrunner. It's xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:04.32 | Tramp | am I speaking chinese? |
| 20:04.41 | rue_house | no, I'm reading it tho |
| 20:04.46 | rue_house | hold on |
| 20:04.49 | Tramp | xulrunner ! |
| 20:04.55 | Tramp | xulrunner != xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:05.03 | rue_house | if I remove -1.9.1 and install xulrunner I'll be ok, yes? |
| 20:05.16 | Tramp | or maybe farsi |
| 20:05.27 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.28 | rue_house | E: Package xulrunner has no installation candidate |
| 20:05.37 | rue_house | those are replacement packages |
| 20:05.38 | Tramp | why would you want xulrunner? |
| 20:05.50 | rue_house | cause iceweasel needs it |
| 20:05.57 | Tramp | what makes you think so? |
| 20:06.05 | rue_house | iceweasel: Depends: xulrunner-1.9.1 (>= 1.9.1.13) but it is not going to be installed |
| 20:06.11 | rue_house | oh wait |
| 20:06.15 | Tramp | where does it mention xulrunner? |
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| 20:06.19 | rue_house | I need an OLD version of xulrunner? |
| 20:06.27 | Tramp | I give up. |
| 20:06.31 | rue_house | ok just a sec |
| 20:06.36 | rue_house | I need an OLD version of xulrunner-1.9.1? |
| 20:06.41 | amphi | rue_house: iceweasel in testing depends on xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:06.44 | rue_house | ok |
| 20:06.51 | rue_house | and I cant get that from squeeze |
| 20:07.12 | amphi | why not? |
| 20:07.14 | Tramp | my candidate in squeeze is Candidate: 1.9.1.13-1, as I just showed 10 minutes ago |
| 20:07.26 | rue_house | Package xulrunner is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 20:07.28 | Tramp | [21:59:03] <Tramp> judd: versions xulrunner-1.9.1 |
| 20:07.31 | rue_house | However the following packages replace it: |
| 20:07.31 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.32 | amphi | rue_house: Version: 1.9.1.13-1 |
| 20:08.14 | Tramp | rue_house: XULRUNNER IS NOT XULRUNNER-1.9.1 !! THEY ARE DIFFERENT PACKAGES |
| 20:08.18 | rue_house | part of this is my reluctance to type a bunch of version numbers ont eh end of a package name to identify a fork of the package |
| 20:08.37 | rue_house | every time I said xulrunner I meant xulrunner-9832792378 |
| 20:09.15 | rue_house | instead of xulrunninr-987234 or xulrunner-234.2345 and not xulrunner |
| 20:09.21 | rue_house | *gigh* |
| 20:09.28 | rue_house | icant even type anymore now |
| 20:09.33 | rue_house | ok, look |
| 20:09.36 | amphi | heh |
| 20:09.43 | rue_house | I want to upgrade iceweasel |
| 20:09.50 | rue_house | please refer next step |
| 20:10.04 | rue_house | > apt-get install _ |
| 20:10.12 | Tramp | if /you/ have no candidate for xulrunner-1.9.1 then you broke something on your "mostly" squeeze system |
| 20:10.21 | rue_house | ok |
| 20:10.26 | rue_house | lets diagnose! |
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| 20:10.29 | Tramp | which is probably related to the "mostly" you mentioned earlier |
| 20:10.59 | Tramp | !lenny->squeeze |
| 20:11.06 | rue_house | shall I pastebin sources.lsit? |
| 20:11.16 | rue_house | potato->squeeze :) |
| 20:11.29 | amphi | ah… |
| 20:11.39 | Tramp | does not work. I'd reinstall. |
| 20:11.43 | rue_house | its been a long 10 years, theres a lot of stuff in here |
| 20:11.44 | amphi | you should upgrade through all the releases ;) |
| 20:11.44 | IRani | hi, I have got Debian 64bit on my box, my qs: is it really necessary to upgrade the Kernel? |
| 20:11.54 | rue_house | no no, its hardly got any potato left |
| 20:12.28 | rue_house | how do I diagnose this |
| 20:13.03 | rue_house | deb ftp://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/debian.org/debian/ testing main #contrib non-free |
| 20:13.11 | rue_house | that ok? |
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| 20:13.28 | rue_house | why does contrib have a hash? |
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| 20:13.47 | amphi | contrib & non-free are commented out |
| 20:13.53 | rue_house | ooo |
| 20:13.58 | amphi | vrms will be pleased |
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| 20:14.25 | rue_house | ok fixed, and reupdating |
| 20:14.43 | rue_house | same prob |
| 20:15.14 | rue_house | do I want to find a source for xulrunner-1.9.1 or replace it with something else? |
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| 20:16.44 | IRani | hi, I have got Debian 64bit on my box, my qs: is it really necessary to upgrade the Kernel? |
| 20:17.00 | rue_house | what are you doing thats asking? |
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| 20:17.39 | IRani | I need to know why should I upgarde the kernel? |
| 20:17.44 | rue_house | hey I think I got it |
| 20:17.50 | IRani | and what if I font |
| 20:17.58 | IRani | dont* |
| 20:18.06 | rue_house | IRani, if you dont, you end up in a mess like I am now, where you cant upgrade cause your kernel is too old |
| 20:18.20 | simonrvn | if it needs to be, yes |
| 20:18.25 | rue_house | but I only do upgrades every 4-5 years |
| 20:18.39 | simonrvn | yes, don't do that ^^ |
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| 20:18.57 | rue_house | :) my system works great for 4-5 years at a time tho! |
| 20:19.08 | rue_house | and then I descend into hell for a few days |
| 20:19.17 | rue_house | ITS WORTH IT! |
| 20:19.19 | rue_house | :) |
| 20:19.45 | IRani | Could you please give me a clean tutorial web page for that? I have don't it via http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch end up by restore the box |
| 20:20.09 | dvs | IRani: you don't need to recompile the kernel yourself |
| 20:20.22 | IRani | dvs who dose it? |
| 20:20.42 | dvs | IRani: Debian has kernel packages that can be easily installed |
| 20:20.44 | simonrvn | just install a debian kernel and let the package management do that |
| 20:21.25 | IRani | could you please give me the name of that and how to install it? |
| 20:21.43 | dvs | IRani: linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 20:22.02 | dvs | IRani: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
| 20:22.07 | dvs | as root |
| 20:22.27 | IRani | and everythign will be done by system? |
| 20:22.34 | dvs | yes |
| 20:22.45 | IRani | wow cool :) thanks |
| 20:22.48 | dvs | np |
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| 20:24.17 | IRani | dvs same packages cab be use for 32bit as well? |
| 20:24.50 | dvs | no, linux-image-2.6-486 |
| 20:25.01 | IRani | mersi :) |
| 20:25.11 | dvs | mecri? |
| 20:25.22 | IRani | it means Thanks |
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| 20:25.59 | simonrvn | merci, unless you're talking some dialect |
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| 20:26.00 | thewanderer1 | I've just started OpenArena and the mouse doesn't work |
| 20:26.13 | simonrvn | aaw |
| 20:26.14 | thewanderer1 | it stays in the top left corner and never moves nor reacts to clicks |
| 20:26.35 | simonrvn | it's tired. give it a minute to catch its breath. |
| 20:26.45 | thewanderer1 | sure... |
| 20:26.51 | thewanderer1 | I'll restart kdm I think :P |
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| 20:28.45 | simonrvn | i've noticed odd behaviour with the mouse too lately. one of the last x updates, or something. i think it has to do with opengl, because it only happens with that sort of app. |
| 20:30.03 | dvs | retieves his mousetrap |
| 20:30.05 | simonrvn | it'll freeze mid-move, then i have to move it to get it to respond again. so far nothing in the logs. still digging. |
| 20:30.14 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 21:46.11 | thepro4ever | hey how can i list my directories vertically instead of horizontally without including all the extra info that comes with -l long format |
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| 21:50.02 | lxsys_ | I have a broadcom BC4312 802.11b/g, debian lenny 5.05. So how do I get it to work? |
| 21:50.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: broadcom |
| 21:50.42 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcm80211>, <wl>. For Ethernet chipset support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
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| 21:50.59 | lxsys_ | dpkg b43 |
| 21:50.59 | dpkg | [b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11b/g PCI/PCI-E wireless LAN chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by <b43legacy>. BCM4321/4322/43224/43225 (802.11n) are not supported, ask me about <wl>, <brcm80211>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:53.46 | thewanderer1 | will OOM killer work only within in 1 cgroup or will it kill stuff at random? |
| 21:54.22 | thewanderer1 | right now I'm running OpenVZ (no cgroups) and when one container's memory was depleted, it just killed my desktop session which is not related to this at all :P |
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| 21:55.03 | xelister | I have an dm0 dm-0 md-1 dm-2 on my box |
| 21:55.12 | xelister | Im not sure how I configured them :o |
| 21:55.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | thewanderer1: its not random, it carefully selects its victim and executes it behind a dark car :p |
| 21:55.32 | xelister | and I want them removed. What config files are responsible for spawning devices dm0 after reboot |
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| 22:11.01 | thewanderer1 | Kamping_Kaiser: alright, but why the hell would a memory shortage in a container kill my processes which do not belong to the container? |
| 22:11.12 | thewanderer1 | I thought OpenVZ was supposed to provide some separation... |
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| 22:22.23 | innociv | apparenlty i'm using all 220gb of my disk :| How do I figure out where all this is being used? |
| 22:22.37 | phorce1 | what log level gets splattered all over your tty every time it's updated? I need to turn down logging on a test firewall, can't even type when there's a data storm. |
| 22:22.54 | phorce1 | innociv: using du |
| 22:24.20 | yagoo | innociv, sounds like you need to go back /home :p |
| 22:24.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | innociv: du. or if you have gnome there is a usage analyser |
| 22:25.09 | Bushmills | gdmap is quite nice for giving a visual overview of disk use |
| 22:25.23 | Bushmills | i think konqueror has a similar view built in |
| 22:25.36 | innociv | I used du and it's extremely long |
| 22:25.44 | xand | du | sort -n |
| 22:25.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | |less |
| 22:25.53 | Bushmills | gsmap generates a graphical view |
| 22:25.56 | Bushmills | gd... |
| 22:25.58 | aDuck | innociv: kdirstat is pretty cool |
| 22:26.07 | phorce1 | innociv: pipe the output to a file or through less so you can scroll through it when it's done |
| 22:26.21 | Bushmills | for using du, run it through sort -n |
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| 22:29.17 | innociv | Well I did that. How can I see the directories using the most? |
| 22:29.29 | innociv | the highest usage i see here is something that's just 1020K.. |
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| 22:32.31 | Bushmills | http://scarydevilmonastery.net/snap/1288477919687470290d.png here's a sample display of gdmap |
| 22:32.42 | gparent | Hey, I have this interesting bug - I've had a power failure on my debian box and since then, only one of my CPU cores show up in cpuinfo. I've tried an older Debian install and they show up fine there, which leads me to think there might be a corrupted file that causes the issue. |
| 22:32.46 | gparent | Any ideas? |
| 22:32.55 | Bushmills | it is interactive, so you can browse it |
| 22:33.37 | innociv | It says 220gb is used but i can't find it :/ |
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| 22:34.57 | epsilon | du -h --max-depth=1 |
| 22:35.43 | lxsys_ | Hi #debian. I've got my wifi card working....ish. I can see networks, but I cant connect to my home network. What should my first step of troubleshooting be? |
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| 22:36.22 | innociv | Alright. it says "220G ." |
| 22:36.34 | innociv | oh no it's home |
| 22:37.38 | amphi | du -h --max-depth=2 ;) |
| 22:37.45 | amphi | etc |
| 22:37.50 | innociv | Okay.. php log is 220gb |
| 22:37.56 | gparent | lol |
| 22:38.06 | innociv | i guessed it'd be that. :| |
| 22:38.13 | innociv | I thought i had no duplicate errors turned on |
| 22:38.32 | innociv | how do i clear a log? cat /dir/to/file.log > /dev/null ? |
| 22:39.07 | amphi | echo '' > foo.log |
| 22:40.16 | innociv | Taking forever it seems. |
| 22:40.25 | innociv | Which I guess is expected |
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| 22:45.05 | thewanderer1 | gparent: perhaps a corrupted kernel? re-install that |
| 22:45.25 | gparent | I tried several kernels |
| 22:45.49 | gparent | And all relevant SMP options are enabled in the config |
| 22:46.12 | thewanderer1 | alright... check your files using debsums |
| 22:47.21 | gparent | Kenne giigke thgt |
| 22:47.24 | gparent | And of course by that I meant |
| 22:47.26 | gparent | Lemme google that |
| 22:47.37 | thewanderer1 | and how are you getting cpuinfo? from /proc/cpuinfo? what do you see in /sys/devices/system/cpu ? |
| 22:47.43 | gparent | yeah, proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:47.45 | gparent | sec. |
| 22:48.06 | gparent | cpu0 |
| 22:48.13 | thewanderer1 | only that? huh |
| 22:48.13 | gparent | no cpu1 or 2 if that's what we were expecting |
| 22:48.17 | thewanderer1 | yes |
| 22:48.18 | gparent | well there's a few other files |
| 22:48.19 | gparent | Lemme paste that |
| 22:48.27 | thewanderer1 | paste the output of "offline" file |
| 22:48.32 | gparent | Alright. |
| 22:48.43 | gparent | It's empty. |
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| 22:49.11 | thewanderer1 | no content at all? |
| 22:49.16 | gparent | None I can see. |
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| 22:49.53 | thewanderer1 | does file /proc/irq/default_smp_affinity exist? |
| 22:50.05 | gparent | Yes |
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| 22:50.19 | thewanderer1 | what is it set to? (you might need root privileges for reading) |
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| 22:50.22 | gparent | 1. |
| 22:50.25 | gparent | I just cat'd it |
| 22:50.30 | thewanderer1 | hm, ok... |
| 22:50.32 | gparent | yeah I'm root no worries about that, I own the box. |
| 22:50.48 | gparent | well i dont run everything as root but I have access to it :) |
| 22:51.02 | lxsys_ | I can connect to unsecured networks, but not my home network secured with wpa... what's going on??? |
| 22:51.16 | thewanderer1 | lxsys_: do you have the firmware installed? it's usually required |
| 22:51.25 | lxsys_ | ive got all the firmware sorted |
| 22:51.31 | gparent | lxsys_: I had that same problem with gentoo a while ago. |
| 22:51.36 | gparent | Open was fine, WEP was fine, WPA wasn,t. |
| 22:51.44 | lxsys_ | wep was untested |
| 22:51.45 | gparent | Never solved it but it's possible. |
| 22:51.52 | oldtopman | Are there any good debian remaster tools out there? |
| 22:51.53 | lxsys_ | i'll get out an old router and setup wep, and text |
| 22:51.57 | lxsys_ | *test |
| 22:52.00 | gparent | And I didn't look enough to solve it, so don't abandon yet =P |
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| 22:52.12 | thewanderer1 | gparent: what kernel are you running? |
| 22:52.39 | gparent | Well, so far I've tried 2.6.36, 2.6.35.4 (original kernel when I had the power failure), and 2.6.35.8 |
| 22:52.44 | gparent | Also my older install was |
| 22:52.52 | gparent | 2.6.32.7 ? I think? something old. |
| 22:52.56 | gparent | I can try the kernel package |
| 22:53.01 | thewanderer1 | have you tried an older kernel on the same Debian install? |
| 22:53.06 | thewanderer1 | try the stock kernel |
| 22:53.18 | gparent | No, only 2.6.35 and above. |
| 22:53.23 | gparent | Okay, I'll try that |
| 22:53.31 | thewanderer1 | !kernels |
| 22:53.33 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20101029, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.36-git15, mainline 2.6: 2.6.36 , stable 2.6: 2.6.36 , stable 2.6.35: 2.6.35.8 , stable 2.6.34: 2.6.34.7 , stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.7 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.25 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.14 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.55 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.10 |
| 22:53.42 | thewanderer1 | oh, not this... |
| 22:53.45 | gparent | I'm connecting on IRC from the box so I'll be right back after I reboot. |
| 22:53.57 | thewanderer1 | ok |
| 22:54.00 | gparent | I understand the whole "custom kernels might be broken" issue though :) |
| 22:54.28 | gparent | trying to find the package name |
| 22:54.44 | gparent | isn't it like linux-2.6 or somethign? |
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| 22:56.44 | gparent | Okay I think I got it, linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 22:58.21 | gparent | brb. |
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| 23:00.33 | gparent | Okay, now I'm really confused. It really seems to be a kernel problem that didn't happen with my .34 kernel. |
| 23:00.47 | gparent | I'll just stick to that so I can have ext4 support and that'll solve it. |
| 23:01.33 | thewanderer1 | I'd guess a bad configure |
| 23:01.52 | thewanderer1 | sth like having forgotten to enable SMP or setting max CPUs to 1 :) |
| 23:02.00 | gparent | Yeah, I'm not sure which part I would've messed up though. |
| 23:02.06 | gparent | If you want I can pastebin the config |
| 23:02.15 | thewanderer1 | well yeah |
| 23:02.17 | gparent | but I'll probably make oldconfig the stock kernel |
| 23:02.29 | thewanderer1 | this usually works |
| 23:02.29 | gparent | that's how I got a safe config the first time |
| 23:03.02 | thewanderer1 | I thought the kernel config pulled in the running config automagically when calling configure |
| 23:04.23 | gparent | thewanderer1: http://pastebin.com/x2S4ksxb |
| 23:04.52 | gparent | this is for an Atom 330. |
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| 23:05.10 | thewanderer1 | I don't know why you'd be running 686 on Atom 330... |
| 23:05.25 | lxsys_ | open and WEP work, WPA doesn't |
| 23:05.42 | gparent | It's been a while since I installed the kernel image package, thewanderer1. I just grabbed that one and it somehow worked :P |
| 23:06.05 | gparent | I typically grab i386 when I compile |
| 23:06.27 | thewanderer1 | I'm running amd64 on that... it's really a 64-bit platform :) |
| 23:06.31 | gparent | Oh. |
| 23:06.38 | gparent | Originally (a long time ago) |
| 23:06.49 | gparent | It was because I had little RAM, and wasn't sure how 64-bit would work on debian. |
| 23:06.57 | thewanderer1 | this adds to the confusion over Atom 230 which is 686 :P |
| 23:07.07 | gparent | Probably fine I just didn't want to find out if there were issues. |
| 23:07.30 | thewanderer1 | by the way, do you also have a bug where you're unable to use sound if your video aperture size is below 256MB? :P |
| 23:07.42 | gparent | This is a server, I've never ran it as a desktop. |
| 23:08.31 | thewanderer1 | hmm... dual NIC, by any chance? |
| 23:08.46 | gparent | Yeah but I never required the 2nd one afterall |
| 23:08.49 | gparent | used* |
| 23:09.05 | thewanderer1 | here it triggered a strange ACPI error (DSDT) which resulted in 100% CPU consumption |
| 23:09.18 | gparent | wait really? was X using the CPU? |
| 23:09.18 | thewanderer1 | and I hate this D945GCLF2 board now :P |
| 23:09.34 | gparent | I have an issue like that on my desktop, although I've removed the network card now |
| 23:09.45 | gparent | On ubuntu 10.10 if I start X it uses my entire 8 threads. |
| 23:09.46 | thewanderer1 | no, the ssecondary NIC was trigerring an ACPI infinite loop or sth... |
| 23:09.51 | thewanderer1 | hehe |
| 23:09.53 | gparent | ah just the NIC |
| 23:10.05 | thewanderer1 | well, on Atom 330 you should be seeing 4 CPU's |
| 23:10.05 | gparent | havnt had that yet |
| 23:10.12 | gparent | yeah my desktop has a i7 930 |
| 23:10.15 | thewanderer1 | 2 cores + 2 from HT |
| 23:10.23 | gparent | the atom def. has 4 when it works :P |
| 23:10.35 | thewanderer1 | yes, that's the goal now :P |
| 23:10.49 | gparent | im not sure what to do other than try 2.6.34, I don,t see what's wrong in the config |
| 23:11.12 | lxsys_ | Hmm anybody know how I get lenny to like my WPA protected access point? |
| 23:11.44 | Bushmills | lxsys_, set up wpa_supplicant |
| 23:11.58 | lxsys_ | ok |
| 23:12.43 | thewanderer1 | gparent: I don't really have an idea... haven't used 686 for a while, though |
| 23:13.24 | gparent | I'll compile .36 with the stock 2.6.26 config after oldconfig and accepting defaults, then enabling ext4 |
| 23:13.26 | thewanderer1 | I'd revert to the stock config for now and build from that |
| 23:13.30 | thewanderer1 | yeah |
| 23:13.30 | gparent | Yeah, exactly. |
| 23:13.34 | gparent | Stop reading my mind. |
| 23:13.35 | lxsys_ | hmm.... wpa is already the newest version, yet network-manager still cant connect to WPA |
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| 23:13.40 | thewanderer1 | fclose() |
| 23:13.44 | gparent | LOL. |
| 23:13.52 | gparent | Compiling with 4 cores should be nice! |
| 23:13.53 | gparent | (r) |
| 23:14.20 | thewanderer1 | lxsys_: have you read its messages in /var/log/daemon.log ? |
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| 23:14.47 | Bushmills | lxsys_, try wicd instead, that may make connection easier |
| 23:15.33 | Bushmills | wicd-gtk as GUI frontend |
| 23:15.51 | thewanderer1 | alternatively, just wpa_supplicant and its CLI client :) |
| 23:16.29 | thewanderer1 | gparent: actually, prepare for 3-4h of waiting for the stock config to compile with all the modules on Atom 330... |
| 23:17.00 | Bushmills | nope. my Z270 did so in about 1 hour |
| 23:17.10 | gparent | maybe I should clean some modules then |
| 23:17.27 | Bushmills | ehm .. N270 actually |
| 23:17.43 | thewanderer1 | with all modules? good |
| 23:18.33 | lxsys_ | http://pastebin.com/4JrKrGjq - heres the logs, i couldnt personally see anything that would have caused it to be unhappy |
| 23:19.24 | thewanderer1 | lxsys_: perhaps you're just not getting DHCP? |
| 23:20.00 | lxsys_ | perhaps, I'll take a look at the router |
| 23:20.26 | thewanderer1 | you should try with static settings and revert to DHCP once you get that working |
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| 23:21.00 | manhunter | hi,how can i remove configuration files?rc kdesudo 3.4.2.3-2 sudo frontend for KDE |
| 23:21.04 | manhunter | rc |
| 23:21.20 | manhunter | removed but configuration files are there |
| 23:21.26 | thewanderer1 | remove --purge |
| 23:21.32 | ThinkRob | I've got an issue with my WLAN card. It's an Intel 5300. The iwlagn driver picks it up just fine, I have the appropriate firmware in /lib/firmware, lspci sees it fine, iwconfig shows wlan1, but nm-applet insists that "wireless is disabled". My hardware rfkill switch is in the 'enabled' position, so it's not that. Anything else I should check? |
| 23:21.56 | manhunter | what's the command to remove configuration files?aptitude remove ?? |
| 23:21.59 | manhunter | hi,how can i remove configuration files?rc kdesudo 3.4.2.3-2 sudo frontend for KDE |
| 23:22.13 | thewanderer1 | manhunter: use the same that you used for removal just with --purge flag |
| 23:22.41 | mashed | lxsys_: I have the same problem with my netbook. Its a hardware issue for me. |
| 23:23.03 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: search for it in the /sys tree - there should be an rfkill subsystem and possibly an option to see its status |
| 23:23.14 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: It's enabled. |
| 23:23.29 | mashed | lxsys_: In a nutshell i cant connect to anything b/g it has to be b only |
| 23:23.36 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: is it indicated by some kind of LED? |
| 23:24.47 | manhunter | thewanderer1: i tried this , but it doesn't work |
| 23:24.48 | manhunter | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kdepim-runtime kdesudo libakonadi-kde4 libkde3support4 libkdecorations4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokekdeui4-3 oxygencursors polkit-kde-1 " |
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| 23:24.50 | ThinkRob | Normally yes, but in this case there won't be an LED even if it were working (modified ThinkPad BIOS to allow non-whitelisted cards.) |
| 23:25.24 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: does "iwlist scan" list anything? |
| 23:25.31 | ThinkRob | Lemme check. |
| 23:26.11 | ThinkRob | I'm running a variant of 2.6.32.24, BTW (in case that makes any difference.) |
| 23:26.31 | manhunter | thewanderer1: ? |
| 23:27.18 | thewanderer1 | manhunter: then try `dpkg --purge pkgname1 pkgname2` |
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| 23:27.37 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: What kind of "variant"? |
| 23:29.08 | ThinkRob | Custom config, my own patchset applied (pax, SATA poweroff patch, change to iwlwifi LED interval, some use-after-free fixes, and a couple of backports of i915 patches.) |
| 23:29.20 | ThinkRob | Nothing that would impact the wireless driver. |
| 23:30.09 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: Hm. ..32-26 is current. |
| 23:30.32 | ThinkRob | jhutchins_lt: No, .32.25 is current. |
| 23:30.37 | manhunter | thewanderer1: aptitude purge remove <package> did the job |
| 23:30.38 | jhutchins_lt | Sounds complicated though. |
| 23:30.45 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 23:30.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.36-trunk-686 (2.6.36-1~experimental.1); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-26); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-26); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-26~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-25lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 23:31.05 | ThinkRob | jhutchins_lt: Ah, you meant the Debian version. |
| 23:31.15 | ThinkRob | Right, .32.25 is latest vanilla. |
| 23:31.29 | jhutchins_lt | checks the channel name. |
| 23:31.33 | ThinkRob | Yeah, I know. |
| 23:31.35 | ThinkRob | :D |
| 23:32.01 | ThinkRob | But given that my userland is squeeze and that the problem's the same with a stock kernel, I figured it was OK to ask here. |
| 23:32.25 | ThinkRob | Ok, 'iwlist scan' produces: |
| 23:32.33 | ThinkRob | "Interface doesn't support scanning: Network is down" |
| 23:32.51 | amphi | ThinkRob: put the interface up with ifconfig |
| 23:32.58 | ThinkRob | Can't. |
| 23:33.00 | jhutchins_lt | Kind of getting off track here, but sometimes we get people from other distros where wifi is managed differently and that can take FOREVER to figure out it's just not going to work the debian way because it's not debian. |
| 23:33.23 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: Are you running any of the wifi managers? network-manager or wicd? |
| 23:33.26 | ThinkRob | jhutchins_lt: No worries, apart from the kernel, 100% of my userland is from squeeze |
| 23:33.35 | ThinkRob | jhutchins_lt: network-manager |
| 23:33.41 | thewanderer1 | alright ThinkRob, have you tried running "ifconfig wlan1 up" or whatever the NIC is called? |
| 23:33.52 | thewanderer1 | then iwlist scan again |
| 23:33.55 | ThinkRob | Yes. I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132" |
| 23:34.26 | lxsys_ | ThinkRob, you got tape over pin 20 or pin 13 depending on card type? |
| 23:34.44 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: Ok, I have not been able to get my wifi working with squeeze's network-manager or wicd; I have gotten it to work by removing both and configuring it manually in interfaces. At least one other person had the same problem here. |
| 23:34.55 | ThinkRob | Didn't tape over 20. |
| 23:35.19 | lxsys_ | I taped over to on my mini-pcie card to force ot to be enabled. |
| 23:35.20 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: then it looks to me like a driver problem, check dmesg and try using a saner kernel... |
| 23:35.21 | gparent | thewanderer1: ran through the entire config and remove a lot of drivers. |
| 23:35.27 | gparent | Didn't change much if anything at all in the processor section |
| 23:35.37 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Same issue with the stock squeeze kernel I'm afraid. |
| 23:35.40 | gparent | compilign now |
| 23:35.47 | ThinkRob | And dmesg, syslog, etc. turn up no indication that anything's wrong. |
| 23:35.59 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: it's a tough one, then |
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| 23:36.12 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Aye. Hence why I turn to the gurus of #debian. :P |
| 23:36.27 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: network-manager seems to put the card in a non-scannable mode. |
| 23:36.52 | ThinkRob | dmesg shows iwlagn saying "Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5300AGN" etc. |
| 23:36.58 | ThinkRob | So it's clearly seeing the hardware. |
| 23:37.19 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: So my recommendation is to get rid of it and try a static config, then see if you can get either nm or wicd working. |
| 23:37.44 | thewanderer1 | I'd say it's no use if "ifconfig wlanX up" yields an error |
| 23:37.57 | thewanderer1 | one is supposed to call that before doing anything on the interface |
| 23:38.04 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: Which chipset again? |
| 23:38.12 | ThinkRob | Intel 5300 |
| 23:39.24 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: iwlagn? |
| 23:39.32 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: have you checked the rfkill subsystem? |
| 23:39.33 | ThinkRob | Yep. |
| 23:39.50 | jhutchins_lt | S'posed ta work... |
| 23:39.59 | ThinkRob | jhutchins_lt: I know. :D |
| 23:40.15 | jhutchins_lt | firmware? |
| 23:40.35 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: have you checked the rfkill subsystem? I'm not sure if the previous "Yep" was according to that |
| 23:40.42 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, I had an oddball b43 that was supposed to work but I never got it up. |
| 23:41.14 | ThinkRob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:41.25 | sanmarcos | why isn't ca-certificates in volatile? |
| 23:43.05 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/ABI/obsolete/sysfs-class-rfkill |
| 23:43.18 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: it's BIOS or SMAPI |
| 23:43.37 | ThinkRob | It's enabled in the BIOS, and tp-smapi isn't loaded. |
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| 23:43.49 | thewanderer1 | it's not the driver anyway |
| 23:43.59 | thewanderer1 | could be the firmware, too, admittedly |
| 23:44.14 | Kurin | When installing lenny on a server with NICs that require bnx2 firmware, how should I make this firmware available if I'm not able to put it on a USB stick? |
| 23:44.32 | lxsys_ | meh, its a bug with my linux router being funny about IP addresses. thanks guys. I better go get some sleep. bye! |
| 23:44.53 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: which version of the firmware do you have installed? |
| 23:45.18 | ThinkRob | Whatever comes with the linux-firmware-nonfree package currently in squeeze |
| 23:45.29 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: firmware-iwlwifi ? |
| 23:45.48 | ThinkRob | Yep. |
| 23:45.58 | thewanderer1 | which version of firmware-iwlwifi? |
| 23:46.08 | ThinkRob | Latest in testing |
| 23:46.23 | ThinkRob | 0.27, no? |
| 23:46.30 | thewanderer1 | yup |
| 23:46.36 | ThinkRob | Well that's what I've got. |
| 23:47.17 | thewanderer1 | what does /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill[0-9]+/persistent say? |
| 23:48.16 | gparent | thewanderer1: I didn't time it, but the compile is pretty long =P |
| 23:48.21 | gparent | Hopefully it'll solve my problem though! |
| 23:48.30 | gparent | Even removing modules, it's still going. |
| 23:48.53 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Hang on, lemme check. |
| 23:48.55 | thewanderer1 | Kurin: optical drive? SLIP over RS-232? install on another machine with the disk connected to that? |
| 23:49.17 | Kurin | Well, it's on an "optical" drive, technically. I can see the .deb file on the busybox console |
| 23:49.46 | Kurin | but where should I put it that the installer can find it |
| 23:50.28 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Just double checked the BIOS settings to make sure that nothing's amiss there. Nada. |
| 23:50.33 | thewanderer1 | I actually have no idea on remastering the CD's |
| 23:50.52 | jhutchins_lt | ThinkRob: Well, I will once-again suggest troubleshooting it without nm or wicd which have known problems, otherwise you're pounding sand down a rathole. |
| 23:50.56 | jhutchins_lt | l8r. |
| 23:51.09 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: alright, try installing `rfkill` package and running `rfkill unblock all` |
| 23:51.30 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Might be tricky for me to use apt-get without a working NIC... :D |
| 23:51.35 | ThinkRob | Lemme see what I can do. |
| 23:51.36 | lxsys | still thinks that a bit of tape will fix everything |
| 23:51.56 | Kurin | they really ought to make it easier to work with unfree firmware |
| 23:52.09 | k[ipv6 | lxsys: you funny--funny guy.. |
| 23:52.12 | Kurin | I know they're fighting The Man and all, but this sucks |
| 23:52.31 | ThinkRob | lxsys: Yeah, I can tape 20, but I don't really want to open up my ThinkPad unless I have to. |
| 23:52.57 | ThinkRob | Besides, in theory the BIOS patch removes the need to tape 20. |
| 23:53.06 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: you can also try this: http://www.opennet.ru/tips/info/2214.shtml -- I hope your Russian is better than mine |
| 23:53.08 | lxsys | also thinks they should make a wifi card with onboard EEPROM to load the firmware off of |
| 23:53.44 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Yeah, echoing 1 to state doesn't make a difference. |
| 23:54.09 | thewanderer1 | that's where my possibilities end, I'm afraid... |
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| 23:54.37 | gparent | thewanderer1: Thanks for all the help. I messed up my kernel config unknowingly. |
| 23:54.44 | gparent | Working fine on 2.6.36 now. |
| 23:55.07 | ThinkRob | thewanderer1: Alright, well thanks anyways. |
| 23:55.19 | ThinkRob | persistent is 0, BTW |
| 23:55.25 | thewanderer1 | ThinkRob: http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&q=%22SIOCSIFFLAGS:+Unknown+error+132%22+intel+5300&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= |
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| 23:55.30 | thewanderer1 | you should probably resume from here |
| 23:55.44 | thewanderer1 | it returns some promising results |
| 23:56.14 | thewanderer1 | beginning with using the keyboard shortcut for WiFi :) |
| 23:56.31 | ThinkRob | Heh, Fn-F5 does nothing to WLAN I'm afraid. |
| 23:56.37 | ThinkRob | Already thought of that one. |
| 23:56.38 | ThinkRob | :D |
| 23:56.49 | ThinkRob | Let me see about grabbing the rfkill bin and going from there |
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| 23:59.39 | ThinkRob | Well damn. |
| 23:59.48 | ThinkRob | 'rfkill unblock all' does nothing. |
| 23:59.58 | ThinkRob | Still shows phy0 as hard blocked. |
