| 00:00.24 | npoektop | jelly-home, ok, i'll reboot now |
| 00:01.47 | SuperMiguel | jelly-home, thanks |
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| 00:04.42 | npoektop | jelly-home, before reboot was about 6 sec, after -- 0.5 sec |
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| 00:08.16 | dayo | can someone help me with this safe-upgrade error? http://dpaste.com/179184/ |
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| 00:11.57 | npoektop | jelly-home, would installation of new kernel help in this situation? |
| 00:18.27 | jelly-home | npoektop: insufficient data for a meaningful answer. Worth a try perhaps. |
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| 00:23.33 | Flashtek | I have a bit of an issue.. I've managed to get a system in to an interesting state where it wants to install a package that's not part of a repo that the system should be downloading from.. though it's being a stubborn ass.. |
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| 00:26.03 | Flashtek | http://pastebin.com/FAV0frL8 |
| 00:26.32 | Internat | have u run apt-get update? |
| 00:26.35 | abrotman | ,versions eml |
| 00:26.37 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'eml' was found. |
| 00:26.37 | Flashtek | uh huh |
| 00:26.39 | abrotman | ,versions coreutils |
| 00:26.40 | judd | coreutils -- etch: 5.97-5.3; lenny: 6.10-6; squeeze: 7.4-2; sid: 8.4-2 |
| 00:26.48 | abrotman | where did you get that coreutils package ? |
| 00:27.06 | Flashtek | emdebian repo.. but i removed that from sources.list |
| 00:27.20 | Internat | looks like it was already partially installed |
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| 00:28.09 | Flashtek | how to convince it to not ? |
| 00:29.47 | Flashtek | /usr/share/info/coreutils.info: No such file or directory |
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| 00:44.30 | taras | why there are no "linux-kbuild-2.6.32" in backports? "linux-headers-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64" requires it |
| 00:44.39 | taras | seems to be broken dependencies? |
| 00:46.14 | abrotman | taras: i think it's a .33 now |
| 00:46.18 | abrotman | ,kernels |
| 00:46.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 00:46.25 | abrotman | or not .. |
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| 00:48.26 | taras | there are no 2.6.33 either |
| 00:48.54 | taras | as in here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kbuild&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports |
| 00:49.15 | abrotman | taras: you *might* be able to use the package from squeeze .. honestly not sure |
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| 01:13.43 | slb_ | im trying to create a logical volume but everytime i try to pvcreate my partition it says can't open /dev/sda6 exclusivel. moutned filesystem? but i unmounted it |
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| 01:24.43 | worr | firefox |
| 01:25.15 | abrotman | iceweasel ? |
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| 01:27.10 | fetcher | how can I make apt-get forget about attempting to "set up" (post-install configure) a particular package? After that step failed, I just configured it manually, but now apt-get wants to revisit that package every time I install anything else |
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| 01:35.32 | rhineheart_m | hello.. is the package screen being removed in repo? |
| 01:35.32 | adb | check/modify /var/lib/dpkg/status > status: install ok installed |
| 01:35.42 | adb | fetcher, ^^ |
| 01:35.47 | rhineheart_m | I just can't install it using the aptitude install screen command |
| 01:35.49 | rhineheart_m | :( |
| 01:36.26 | adb | , versions screen |
| 01:36.26 | judd | screen -- etch: 4.0.3-0.3+b1; lenny: 4.0.3-11+lenny1; sid: 4.0.3-14; squeeze: 4.0.3-14 |
| 01:36.49 | rhineheart_m | I'm using lenny here.. |
| 01:37.06 | Internat | are you missing a repository? |
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| 01:37.27 | adb | rhineheart_m, add lenny main to sources |
| 01:37.40 | adb | !sources |
| 01:37.40 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 01:38.53 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin ? |
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| 01:39.07 | slb_ | im trying to pvcreate on one of my partitions to prepare to use lvm but it keeps saying it cant open it exlusively, what can i do to fix this? |
| 01:42.09 | rhineheart_m | abrotman, can you suggest a repo server for lenny main? thanks.. |
| 01:42.19 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: which country are you in ? |
| 01:42.25 | rhineheart_m | philippines |
| 01:42.53 | abrotman | deb http://mirror.cse.unsw.edu.au/debian/ lenny main |
| 01:43.06 | jelly-home | slb_: umount it, swapoff it, remove it from a raid or multipath or other device-mapper setup |
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| 01:44.02 | slb_ | thx |
| 01:44.04 | slb_ | will do |
| 01:44.15 | fetcher | adb: thanks... |
| 01:44.41 | jelly-home | slb_: if there's a filesystem on it, you will naturally lose data |
| 01:45.00 | rhineheart_m | ows... it won't work.. what port is being used for aptitude? |
| 01:45.13 | rhineheart_m | I guess my endian firewall is blocking it.. whew! |
| 01:46.41 | abrotman | if your web browser works, aptitude sohuld work |
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| 01:49.17 | rhineheart_m | abrotman..I guess I need to reinstall the newly installed debian system.. mmp! internet connectivity might be loss during the installation. |
| 01:49.30 | abrotman | huh ? |
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| 01:51.19 | rhineheart_m | even this command, aptitude install openssh-server would return package not found.. |
| 01:51.36 | rhineheart_m | I added already the link you gave me in sources.list |
| 01:51.56 | rhineheart_m | and I just can't copy paste it to the pastebin.. it's in my proxmox machine.. running as VM |
| 01:52.17 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: did you 'aptitude update' ? |
| 01:52.56 | rhineheart_m | mmp! I miss that.. hehehe.. thanks. :) |
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| 01:54.45 | Rapsodius | I get perl errors regarding locale each time I do something with aptitude |
| 01:55.05 | Rapsodius | even when i do dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 01:56.40 | Rapsodius | help! |
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| 02:18.57 | shyam | pressing ctrl-alt-f1 doesnot get me to tty while, the key is passed on to the x app running (say emacs says C-M-f1 is undefined as i press it). what can be the problem? |
| 02:22.35 | epsilon | sre the tty's defnied in /etc/inittab? |
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| 02:29.53 | shortcircuit | Ok, so where did slocate go in D5? |
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| 02:30.54 | pngwn | !mlocate |
| 02:30.54 | dpkg | well, mlocate is a replacement for the <locate> and <slocate> tools from lenny onwards. mlocate is clever in that it remembers timestamps on directories so it doesn't need to rebuild the entire database each day. See http://packages.debian.org/mlocate for more information. |
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| 02:33.46 | shyam | epsilon: yeah its just the problem with my xmodmap config.. now i get it.:) |
| 02:34.07 | shyam | now i guess an x restart will do it. |
| 02:35.16 | shortcircuit | Hm. |
| 02:35.17 | hramrach | how do I install from a floppy? |
| 02:35.35 | hramrach | I cannot find any floppy images on my mirror |
| 02:35.54 | liable | there arent any anymore |
| 02:36.17 | abrotman | hramrach: you'd have to use the etch floppies, and go from there |
| 02:36.17 | hramrach | that sucks |
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| 02:37.36 | hramrach | hm |
| 02:37.50 | liable | long winded way of doing it |
| 02:38.16 | hramrach | shorter one? |
| 02:38.48 | liable | other media, cd, us, hard drive image |
| 02:38.54 | liable | usb* |
| 02:40.05 | hramrach | I guess pulling out the drive could be a shortcut |
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| 03:26.59 | wad | So I've got a 6TB volume that I'd like to put ext3 on. It will hold videos, so I'm thinking that a huge blocksize would be best. What do you guys think? |
| 03:28.49 | shortcircuit | wad: No opinion, really. I've got a 3TB volume I have ext4 on, about half of which contains DVD backups. |
| 03:29.29 | shortcircuit | sec. |
| 03:29.37 | wad | ext4 doesn't work under lenny.... |
| 03:29.44 | wad | I tried that first. :( |
| 03:29.47 | shortcircuit | Ah. |
| 03:30.12 | shortcircuit | wad: The only practical difference between ext3 and ext4, (at least for me) are the extents. |
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| 03:30.58 | shortcircuit | I enabled ext4 by accident on my Ubuntu box by enabling a flag that's only supported by ext4 when I was poking at it with tune2fs. |
| 03:31.17 | wad | Isn't ext4 the default for Ubuntu these days? |
| 03:31.43 | jm | it seems to be |
| 03:31.50 | jm | it was on the last installer I used |
| 03:32.06 | yagoo | wad, ext4 doesn't work you sau? |
| 03:32.17 | acu | can anyone help me - I want to embed a analog clock on o fixed place on a site - and I found a nice clock java script but it makes the clock move with the mouse - how can I get rid of the mouse - http://www.mf2fm.com/rv/dhtmlanaloguewatch.php |
| 03:32.29 | wad | This is a debian lenny box. |
| 03:32.52 | simonrvn | !DSA++ |
| 03:32.53 | wad | I'm just going with ext3 -b 4096 for now. |
| 03:33.02 | sivel | wad: I generally only care about block size when the file sizes are small |
| 03:33.10 | shortcircuit | wad: The output of tune2fs -l, FWIW: http://pastebin.com/zYzLwEbf |
| 03:33.14 | shortcircuit | concurs with swivel. |
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| 03:35.01 | shortcircuit | ponders the 2008 fs 'create' time |
| 03:35.15 | shortcircuit | I wonder if I dd'd my old fs onto the md, and then extended it. |
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| 03:36.48 | shortcircuit | More likely, the clock was off at the time of fs creation. |
| 03:37.05 | yagoo | !ext3 |
| 03:37.05 | dpkg | hmm... ext3 is the One True Filesystem. If you have to ask what filesystem you should be using, use ext3. Ask me about <ext2->ext3>, <resize2fs>, <ext2fsd>, <ext2ifs>, <filesystems>. FAQ: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 |
| 03:37.21 | jelly-home | !ext4 |
| 03:37.21 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Supports volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in e2fsprogs since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged in mainline kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy (Debian bug #511121). http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 03:37.45 | yagoo | wad, seems so far to me that ext4 does work on my lenny |
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| 03:38.03 | jelly-home | yagoo: not with the default kernel though |
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| 03:38.16 | wad | yagoo, mkfs worked, but mounting didn't. |
| 03:38.24 | simonrvn | yagoo: using a bpo or roll-yer-own i bet |
| 03:38.29 | yagoo | hmm |
| 03:38.37 | Chikubu | anyone getting udev nightmare on distro-upgrade? catch 22, udev wont install without newer kernell, no newer kernell |
| 03:38.41 | wad | That's okay, I'm going with ext3. :) |
| 03:38.52 | jelly-home | !tell Chikubu about squeeze udev |
| 03:39.43 | Chikubu | i got no gui, can i use the squeeze fix from the console, or get there with lynx |
| 03:39.55 | yagoo | well i'm using amd64, dunno if that has anything to do with it, i was able to mkfs.ext4 a loop1 (losetup), and then mount it |
| 03:40.42 | hayleyw | Chikubu, what about the factoid made you think gui was required? did you read it? |
| 03:40.53 | yagoo | nmind.. |
| 03:41.08 | yagoo | goes back to fixing something |
| 03:41.15 | Chikubu | maybe id need a gui to READ the directions |
| 03:41.26 | hayleyw | Chikubu, no, you dont |
| 03:41.28 | Chikubu | but ill go back to lynx and poke around |
| 03:41.29 | yagoo | should say mkfs passes.. but yet to mount |
| 03:41.33 | hayleyw | goddamn |
| 03:41.53 | hayleyw | dpkg told you exactly what to do. you dont need a gui or a browser |
| 03:41.53 | dpkg | hayleyw: I give up, what is it? |
| 03:42.10 | Chikubu | thank you, id seen the squeeze fix but havent used squeeze b4 , ill go dig |
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| 03:42.49 | Chikubu | didnt cacht the dpkg message |
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| 03:43.08 | Chikubu | what reconfigure udev to get the message? |
| 03:44.11 | hayleyw | Chikubu, can you read english? |
| 03:44.14 | jelly-home | Chikubu: install the newer kernel from /var/cache/apt/archives/ using dpkg, reboot, then continue with upgrade |
| 03:44.30 | jelly-home | Chikubu: dpkg should have sent you a private irc message |
| 03:44.57 | Chikubu | thnx jelly, this is antix, not sure i saw the message, and i can read, just dont have super nerd powers apperalty |
| 03:44.59 | Chikubu | thank god |
| 03:45.31 | jelly-home | I've no idea who antix is, sorry, just reading last 2-3 minutes. |
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| 03:45.41 | adb | !antix |
| 03:45.41 | dpkg | antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 03:45.55 | hayleyw | dumbass |
| 03:46.10 | jelly-home | hayleyw: mind your manners! |
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| 03:46.15 | yagoo | i'm wondering what's the difference between tomcat and jboss (offtopic), anyone have a good site or thought of this? |
| 03:46.40 | hayleyw | jelly-home, i didnt mean you. i meant the dumbass :P |
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| 03:47.26 | jelly-home | hayleyw: _I_ meant you, namecalling won't help with tech support. |
| 03:47.31 | devhell | ries is back! yay! |
| 03:47.47 | hayleyw | shivers |
| 03:47.51 | dvs | devhell: let the onslaught begin! |
| 03:47.58 | devhell | hurr hurr |
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| 03:50.30 | ark_ | hi everyone. I recently upgraded from lenny to testing, and I'm unable to mount my dvd unit. Apparently, the device file in /dev is not being created. There is not a file named hd* or like that. Any clues with this?. Thanks in advance. |
| 03:51.45 | dvs | ark_: chances are that it is called sda, sdb, etc |
| 03:52.41 | jelly-home | dvs: you mean scd0 or sd0 or sr1 or ... |
| 03:52.57 | jelly-home | er, sr0, not sd0. |
| 03:53.01 | ark_ | dvs: mmm, in lenny it was hdb. I only find sda, and it corresponds to my sata hard disk. fdisk -l shows only hard disks partitions |
| 03:53.38 | dvs | jelly-home: Could be. I use /media/dvd myself |
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| 03:56.44 | jelly-home | ark_: if it's a sata device, it'll use scsi cdrom device naming, /dev/scd* or /dev/sr*; udev should however create symlinks /dev/dvd* and /dev/dvdrw* |
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| 03:57.26 | simonrvn | yup |
| 03:57.43 | ark_ | jelly-home: nope, it's an ide device. It used hdb in lenny. After upgrading with a dist-upgrade, the problem started. |
| 03:58.09 | ark_ | jelly-home: my mistake, it used hda, jeje, but it's the same |
| 04:02.15 | adb | simonrvn, about my video issue on g4, you said me that is switch on mainboard for enable the video , or something else ? |
| 04:03.14 | simonrvn | adb: i said no such thing; but did you try to boot with video=ofonly ? |
| 04:03.25 | jelly-home | adb: if there's no scsi cdrom device or ide device, could be the driver for IDE controller didn't get loaded at all |
| 04:05.03 | adb | simonrvn, but i don't have any video signal on my monitor/screen |
| 04:05.36 | simonrvn | did you try to reset the nvram? |
| 04:05.47 | simonrvn | "zapping" it |
| 04:06.02 | adb | simonrvn, yes , same thing |
| 04:06.25 | simonrvn | boinged 3 times? |
| 04:06.36 | ark_ | jelly-home: o.o, is that for adb?. mmm, I checked and the ide-cd driver is up |
| 04:06.40 | adb | simonrvn, no ... |
| 04:06.54 | ark_ | jelly-home: but not sure if that's the right one |
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| 04:07.50 | simonrvn | you sure the hardware's ok? cables, etc |
| 04:07.56 | adb | simonrvn, booting with a osx , cdrom seems working/loading long time ~ > 5 min |
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| 04:08.11 | correcaminos | hello |
| 04:08.17 | jelly-home | ark_: that's not the driver for an ide controller, no |
| 04:08.20 | simonrvn | hmm. try booting in verbose mode |
| 04:08.33 | adb | simonrvn, how ? |
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| 04:08.41 | simonrvn | adb: hold down cmd-v right after the boing |
| 04:09.02 | ark_ | ide_cd_mod 21076 0 |
| 04:09.03 | ark_ | cdrom 26487 1 ide_cd_mod |
| 04:09.03 | ark_ | ide_pci_generic 1924 0 |
| 04:09.03 | ark_ | ide_core 64146 3 ide_cd_mod,ide_pci_generic,atiixp |
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| 04:09.11 | adb | simonrvn, ok, will try it |
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| 04:09.24 | simonrvn | adb: might tell you why it's slow |
| 04:09.31 | simonrvn | ark_: don't paste here |
| 04:09.45 | ark_ | simonrvn: sorry, I tought it was shorter |
| 04:09.53 | ark_ | short* |
| 04:10.04 | adb | simonrvn, i hope, let's see |
| 04:10.18 | ark_ | ide_cd_mod cdrom ide_pci_generic ide_core |
| 04:10.30 | simonrvn | adb: that's for os 10.x fyi |
| 04:10.35 | adb | yes |
| 04:10.37 | ark_ | I find those drivers after executing lsmod | grep ide |
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| 04:11.06 | simonrvn | ark_: the _generic_ one is for your ide drive channels |
| 04:11.51 | adb | simonrvn, cmd-v is 'apple button' + v , i hope |
| 04:12.02 | simonrvn | yes |
| 04:12.06 | adb | ok |
| 04:12.20 | simonrvn | cmd is shorthand for command |
| 04:12.45 | ark_ | simonrvn: mmm, then, it's not a problem with the ide driver for the dvdrom unit. |
| 04:13.10 | simonrvn | ide_cd_mod should be obvious ;) |
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| 04:13.54 | ark_ | simonrvn: uhh? |
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| 04:17.05 | ark_ | jeje, I'll try something, and must restart. Thanks, maybe I'll be back, but hope it works. |
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| 04:19.53 | ark_ | didn't work T.T |
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| 04:41.53 | correcaminos | hello people |
| 04:42.40 | adb | simonrvn, well not yet , a changed AGP with pci video card , same thing , no video signal, i'll try later , thanks again |
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| 04:51.01 | simonrvn | adb: good luck dude |
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| 05:30.20 | Caelum | how do I clear my exim queue? |
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| 05:32.01 | bikcmp | Hey everyone, I can't figure out how to do this. I've created a .deb package, but I need to make a .changes file. How can I do that? |
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| 05:47.35 | simonrvn | bikcmp: debuild or similar tools |
| 05:48.01 | bikcmp | simonrvn: Thanks! :) |
| 05:48.24 | bikcmp | hmm, no package debuild? |
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| 05:48.40 | simonrvn | it's inside a package |
| 05:48.41 | bikcmp | nv, |
| 05:48.42 | bikcmp | *nvm |
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| 05:49.44 | simonrvn | Caelum: i use this in a script to clear out and force delivery of stuff: exim4 -bpru | exiqsumm | sed '1,4d;$d;s/^.*\ \(.[^\ ]*$\)/\1/' | xargs -P 10 -n 1 exim4 -v -qqR |
| 05:50.08 | Caelum | simonrvn: neat, thank you! |
| 05:50.30 | bikcmp | simonrvn: I don't get it exactly, looking at the docs, what would I do to make a .changes for XYZ.deb? |
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| 05:59.43 | toffee | !time |
| 05:59.44 | dpkg | [time] found on http://www.time.gov/, or 2010.04.04 5:59:43, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. of no essence here!, or it's beer o'clock!!, or see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html |
| 06:00.11 | toffee | !etch |
| 06:00.11 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 06:00.39 | toffee | !lenny |
| 06:00.39 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for the current stable release, Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on 2009-02-15: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.4>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 06:01.08 | toffee | !testing |
| 06:01.09 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 06:02.12 | toffee | !stable |
| 06:02.12 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 06:03.01 | toffee | !potato |
| 06:03.02 | dpkg | Potato is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, released August 14th, 2000. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <potato->woody> for upgrade information. See also <potato sources.list>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPotato |
| 06:03.28 | toffee | !unstable |
| 06:03.28 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 06:03.44 | amphi | !tell toffee -about msg the bot |
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| 06:16.12 | simonrvn | bikcmp: dpkg-buildpackage does the actual creation |
| 06:16.27 | bikcmp | simonrvn: I already got it going, thanks anyway :) |
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| 07:07.56 | Psi-Jack | Dolp: Everything. |
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| 07:08.06 | Psi-Jack | Except the software. Sorta. ;) |
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| 07:09.15 | Vlad___ | hi, i can't install debian--installer can't find files on "cdrom", but in this PC thereis no cd |
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| 07:10.44 | Vlad___ | i boot the kernel from hdd(/dev/sda1) , but installer can't find any files on this device |
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| 07:14.02 | nsadmin | dolp goned |
| 07:14.11 | Psi-Jack | Yep |
| 07:14.23 | Psi-Jack | He was just polling all over the place. ##linux too. |
| 07:15.17 | Psi-Jack | Curiosity has me on something. Does Debian have any support for virtio for kvm? |
| 07:15.33 | nsadmin | , versions virtio |
| 07:15.36 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'virtio' was found. |
| 07:15.48 | nsadmin | at least it isn't packaged by that name |
| 07:15.55 | nsadmin | , versions kvm |
| 07:15.58 | judd | kvm -- etch-backports: 28-4~bpo.1; lenny: 72+dfsg-5~lenny4; lenny-security: 72+dfsg-5~lenny5; squeeze-security: 72+dfsg-5+squeeze1; lenny-backports: 85+dfsg-4~bpo50+1; experimental: 88+dfsg-3; sid: 1:0.12.3+dfsg-4; squeeze: 1:0.12.3+dfsg-4 |
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| 07:16.49 | nsadmin | you could jump onto packages.debian.org and browse kvm's depends and look at files in the package |
| 07:17.13 | Psi-Jack | Well, Debian doesn't seem to enable the kernel option to show config in /proc or /sys, so I can't tell if CONFIG_VIRTIO_PCI or the others are enabled. |
| 07:17.20 | nsadmin | Vlad___ any indication of where it's looking for the files? |
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| 07:17.55 | nsadmin | the config file is installed into /boot |
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| 07:20.09 | nsadmin | Psi-Jack, all kernels made with make-kpkg (subset is all kernels debian ships) come with the config file. it installs that config to /boot |
| 07:20.55 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm |
| 07:21.01 | Psi-Jack | Seems the VIRTIO are modules. |
| 07:21.15 | nsadmin | is that good or bad :) |
| 07:21.28 | Psi-Jack | Good, I guess, as long as the modules are loaded. ;) |
| 07:22.17 | Vlad___ | nsadmin -it say that cdrom-device not found and ask "choose module and device cdrom manually?" |
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| 07:22.49 | daltio12 | guys i wnat my linux box act as router? |
| 07:22.54 | daltio12 | any idea how i do this? |
| 07:23.02 | Psi-Jack | Quite a few. |
| 07:23.08 | nsadmin | "router" is a big wide range |
| 07:23.15 | nsadmin | what exactly do you want it to do |
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| 07:23.47 | iceroot | daltio12: create virtual eth-devices for each subnet and enable ip-forwarding. then you have a basic router |
| 07:23.48 | Psi-Jack | I'll recommend 4 servers with raid 1 duplicating 3:1 drives. |
| 07:23.59 | nsadmin | you got several oc-192s you need to join to double internet connectivity worldwide? |
| 07:24.33 | wols_ | iceroot: why virtual? |
| 07:24.34 | nsadmin | you looking to add a backdoor to china? :) |
| 07:24.38 | daltio12 | iceroot i have a scanrio i would like to explain and then help me out on that |
| 07:24.51 | wols_ | all you do is enabling ip-forwarding and you are done. more if NAT or such is required |
| 07:24.54 | iceroot | wols_: because i dont know another way if you just have 1 real nic |
| 07:25.08 | iceroot | wols_: and different networks |
| 07:25.12 | wols_ | if you have only 1 phys interface, why route? |
| 07:25.12 | nsadmin | daltio12, make a diagram |
| 07:25.39 | Vlad___ | if i show the installer /dev/sda1 it tell that again "can't find install files" |
| 07:26.26 | iceroot | wols_: for e.g. you have 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 then i would use eth0 on 192.168.0.0/24 and eth0:1 on 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 07:26.33 | wols_ | a router needs access to two networks. means it has to have more than one IP in the first place, otherwise it's useless. so either you have already virtual NICs (I pity you) or you have seveal NICs already. no need to actually enable virtual interfaces |
| 07:26.38 | daltio12 | where i make adiagram |
| 07:26.39 | daltio12 | ? |
| 07:26.44 | daltio12 | how i show you that |
| 07:26.46 | daltio12 | guys i want to run my debain as router how i do this, i have 2 debain boxes connected with vpn , my local network is 10.157.41.0 and ip is 10.157.41.9 and its has a seperate wan ip and another box as local network 192.168.3.0 with ip 192.168.3.36 with 1 wan ip, both machines are ok and access each other now 1 machine as a juniper router with ip 10.157.41.1 and thrugh this router i add a route add -host 10.1578.2/32 gw 10.157.41.1 1 machine can access 10.1 |
| 07:26.46 | daltio12 | 57.8.2 ,,i want second machine should access the mail server 10.157.8.2 what routes should i add,my vpn ip on 1 machine is 18.18.18.1 and on 2 machine is 18.18.18.5 , i add route on 2 machine route add -host 10.157.8.2 gw 18.18.18.1 |
| 07:26.53 | wols_ | !enter |
| 07:26.54 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 07:27.56 | daltio12 | sorry thats why i explain all in 1 line plz guide me |
| 07:29.21 | wols_ | your explanation is utterly pure 100% bullshit. as I told you yesterday: write it PROPERLY down, with logical(!) reasoning, preferably correct spelling and grammar and then come back. a diagram would probably help a lot too as nsadmin suggested. otherwise, your chances of any help with your problem here are zero. Have a nice day |
| 07:29.22 | daltio12 | ? any idea |
| 07:29.57 | daltio12 | wols how i make diagram and where i show you that |
| 07:30.08 | wols_ | daltio12: several people told you what to do by now. if you continue to cut*paste this shit here as you did several times by now simply makes you a moron spammer. |
| 07:30.27 | nsadmin | one problem I see right now is in at least one case you have a machine on one net that tries to use a gateway not on its net |
| 07:31.09 | nsadmin | dia, gimp to name a coupla graphical programs... xfig is another, it's somewhat hard to get used to |
| 07:31.48 | daltio12 | no no i ill make a diagram how i show you on xchat , tel me il make diagrma no issues wait i am making diagram |
| 07:32.00 | iceroot | daltio12: try "kivio" or inkscape |
| 07:32.20 | nsadmin | hmm, never seen either of those |
| 07:32.25 | daltio12 | i have windows with me right now makig it on MS ofice |
| 07:32.44 | cahoot | mmm windows to the rescue |
| 07:32.45 | wols_ | waits for a .docx file |
| 07:32.46 | iceroot | nsadmin: never saw inkscape? your are missing a great program |
| 07:32.47 | amphi | ascii art FTW ;) |
| 07:33.18 | nsadmin | , versions inkscape |
| 07:33.20 | judd | inkscape -- etch-security: 0.43-0.0etch1; etch: 0.44.1-1; lenny: 0.46-2.lenny2; sid: 0.47.0-2+b1; squeeze: 0.47.0-2+b1 |
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| 07:33.35 | iceroot | nsadmin: its THAT program for crawing vector-based |
| 07:33.41 | worr | is there a way to get the progress of a tar operation? |
| 07:33.42 | nsadmin | ok I try dat |
| 07:33.46 | iceroot | s/crawing/drawing |
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| 07:34.03 | nsadmin | crawing is what crabs do? |
| 07:34.15 | iceroot | :) |
| 07:34.32 | wols_ | worr: -v maybe? |
| 07:35.06 | nsadmin | probably can't get progress in the middle |
| 07:35.13 | nsadmin | but what you can do |
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| 07:36.06 | worr | is there a signal I can send it? |
| 07:36.16 | nsadmin | is use either ls -l (tarfile being made) or du -s (somewhere) |
| 07:36.34 | babilen | Good morning :) Ganneff worked a lot last night and we have some updates. Anybody tried them yet? Problems so far? |
| 07:37.01 | nsadmin | maybe the fact it wasn't designed for that originally is historical and irrelevent presently... |
| 07:37.22 | nsadmin | wazzaGanneff? |
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| 07:38.34 | babilen | nsadmin: Joey Hess (ftpmaster team) |
| 07:38.59 | nsadmin | oh, he gave me my first debian cd |
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| 07:40.19 | nsadmin | Vlad___, so what are you installing exactly? |
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| 07:40.43 | babilen | nsadmin: And my name resolution is completely broken this morning, i meant joerg jaspert :-\ |
| 07:40.54 | nsadmin | oh :) |
| 07:40.54 | babilen | gets some tea |
| 07:41.06 | Vlad___ | debian 504 i386 xfce cd-1.iso |
| 07:41.07 | nsadmin | he didn't give me a cd :) |
| 07:41.13 | babilen | nope |
| 07:41.33 | nsadmin | it's done getting inkskape |
| 07:42.47 | Vlad___ | i mount my hdd as /mnt |
| 07:43.21 | Vlad___ | when installer ask about cdrom i set /mnt As device |
| 07:43.32 | nsadmin | hmm, how large is your hdd |
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| 07:44.07 | Vlad___ | 320gb, but volume is 10gb fat32 |
| 07:44.30 | nsadmin | fat32? so it's that partition that has the cd img? |
| 07:44.45 | nsadmin | how much unpartitioned space is on the drive |
| 07:44.49 | Vlad___ | yes |
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| 07:45.04 | Vlad___ | 310 gb |
| 07:45.17 | nsadmin | do you want to use lvm? |
| 07:45.42 | Vlad___ | no |
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| 07:45.52 | nsadmin | ok. |
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| 07:46.18 | nsadmin | so the cd boots... and then it asks where is the image? |
| 07:46.21 | nsadmin | err hd |
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| 07:46.48 | Vlad___ | i already tried to copy debian.iso , but then i can't use command "mount -o loop -t iso9660 " because thereis no module LOOP in this kernel |
| 07:47.17 | nsadmin | no loop? how will the installer mount it? hmm... |
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| 07:47.38 | nsadmin | ok, so let's see... |
| 07:48.08 | nsadmin | if we look at the lenny install guide, there should be a section on installing from hd |
| 07:48.17 | nsadmin | which is what you're doing? |
| 07:48.36 | Vlad___ | now i alreade extract iso to this partition, now thereis no *.iso on disk, only files As they will be on cd-disk |
| 07:48.45 | nsadmin | extract? |
| 07:48.54 | Vlad___ | Y |
| 07:48.57 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 07:49.23 | nsadmin | what guide were you following that said do that? |
| 07:49.34 | wols_ | Vlad___: to install debian from another Unix system, you use debootstrap, not the debian installer. /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 07:49.35 | nsadmin | or better... hold on |
| 07:49.51 | nsadmin | are you running a unix now? |
| 07:50.35 | wols_ | < Vlad___> ...i can't use command "mount -o loop -t iso9660 " because thereis no module LOOP in this kernel |
| 07:50.37 | nsadmin | wols: I inferred he was using win since he has that fat32 partition and rest of drive unpartitioned |
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| 07:51.02 | nsadmin | oh, I inferred that was the installer |
| 07:51.06 | iceroot | what is the debian-way to create a manpage (which software) and is it enough to copy it in the rules-file in the correct dir so i can use man foo? |
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| 07:51.34 | Vlad___ | this trouble disscussed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/260672 |
| 07:51.36 | nsadmin | there's an example man page somewhere, maybe as part of debhelper |
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| 07:51.56 | nsadmin | or dh-make maybe |
| 07:52.02 | wols_ | iceroot: since typing is hard: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+create+a+manpage |
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| 07:52.13 | The_Thing | Where can I download Debian 2.1? |
| 07:52.19 | wols_ | !potato |
| 07:52.19 | dpkg | Potato is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, released August 14th, 2000. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <potato->woody> for upgrade information. See also <potato sources.list>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPotato |
| 07:52.31 | nsadmin | slink? |
| 07:52.32 | wols_ | hmm.. what was 2.1 again? slink? |
| 07:52.33 | iceroot | wols_: sorry i forgot the debian-way to answer questions :) |
| 07:52.35 | wols_ | !slink |
| 07:52.35 | dpkg | Slink (Debian GNU/Linux 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about <slink->potato>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSlink |
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| 07:52.39 | The_Thing | 2.1 is slinjk |
| 07:52.51 | nsadmin | I liked slink too :) and potato |
| 07:53.03 | The_Thing | wants slink, specifically so he can use KDE 1 |
| 07:53.19 | wols_ | The_Thing: the link from dpkg is what you want |
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| 07:53.23 | taras | hi. when I boot "linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64"(from backports) on lenny it hangs after Activating swap file |
| 07:53.32 | taras | hdd indicator is constant on |
| 07:53.36 | taras | what is wrong? |
| 07:53.49 | The_Thing | wols_: Where is that? And is it an ISO? |
| 07:53.58 | Vlad___ | No, now i have only windows, and use wingrub(grub4dos) to install a loader |
| 07:54.07 | wols_ | taras: how should we know. disable the swapfile and reboot. if it persists ask again. if disabling it helps, recreate the swapfile with mkswap under the new kernel |
| 07:54.15 | wols_ | The_Thing: go there |
| 07:54.19 | babilen | The_Thing: Just open the link - there is a link to the ISO (i386 only) |
| 07:54.33 | The_Thing | What link? |
| 07:54.41 | The_Thing | Nobody has posted anything in here |
| 07:54.46 | wols_ | The_Thing: the link dpkg mentioned when talking about slink... |
| 07:54.50 | nsadmin | or you didn't see it :P |
| 07:54.51 | taras | wols_: ok |
| 07:55.04 | wols_ | The_Thing: then I suggest you get better glasses. you really need them |
| 07:55.19 | wols_ | !tell The_Thing about slink |
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| 07:55.43 | The_Thing | :o |
| 07:56.12 | The_Thing | And how do I get KDE 1 on that? Is that still actually in the repositories? |
| 07:56.34 | The_Thing | Or is it on the CD(s)? |
| 07:56.47 | wols_ | The_Thing: every quetion you ask shows you haven't read the link yet. now why would we answer you? |
| 07:57.24 | nsadmin | slink is off the repositories entirely, altho it may be archived |
| 07:57.56 | babilen | Packages are on archive.debian.org |
| 07:58.03 | nsadmin | The_Thing, now come on, show that you're responsive and read the link |
| 07:58.05 | The_Thing | I don't see anything about KDE in there. |
| 07:58.20 | wols_ | if debian 2.1 had kde,it is there. if it didn't it is not |
| 07:58.21 | nsadmin | how do you know it's on slink? |
| 07:58.58 | The_Thing | I don't... |
| 07:59.15 | wols_ | and with a little thought, you could have browsed the packages repo on your own and answering your own question. but that would be work, and it's easier to be lazy and ask so others do it for you. right? |
| 07:59.22 | nsadmin | Vlad___ still there? |
| 07:59.30 | Vlad___ | y |
| 07:59.46 | wols_ | Vlad___: are you udenr a unix/linux system right now? |
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| 07:59.50 | nsadmin | so what exactly are you running now? like, what's that irc? |
| 07:59.56 | wols_ | Vlad___: on the system you want to install debian to that is |
| 08:00.11 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:00.23 | The_Thing | sighs at how incredibly hard it is to find KDE 1... |
| 08:00.43 | Vlad___ | that the 3rd computer , winXP |
| 08:01.06 | nsadmin | The_Thing either be fun to help or be lower priority :) |
| 08:01.12 | wols_ | it's unlikely debian ever had kde1. back then the Qt license was non-free afaik |
| 08:01.22 | majhool | it wasn't |
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| 08:01.27 | The_Thing | well I've been looking for 8 hours straight to no avail... |
| 08:01.30 | majhool | that is, you are correct |
| 08:01.40 | wols_ | then debian never had kde1 |
| 08:01.52 | nsadmin | majhool, no kde in slink? |
| 08:02.03 | wols_ | but I'm sure kde itself has kde1 in their cvs. I remember downloading CVS pre 1.0 and building in on a sparc |
| 08:02.05 | The_Thing | And frankly for any other person it would be sad to search for an ancient Window manager... ;) |
| 08:02.10 | nsadmin | oh I think I know why |
| 08:02.15 | majhool | The_Thing: does your local LUG have a library? if so they probably have some turn-of-the-century linux books with cds |
| 08:02.16 | Vlad___ | thereis idea to use Debian-live-504 |
| 08:02.17 | majhool | http://archive.debian.net/slink/allpackages |
| 08:02.18 | majhool | nope |
| 08:02.20 | daltio12 | wols where i pster the diagram i have it |
| 08:02.21 | babilen | KDE appeared in woody first IIRC with versiosn 2.x |
| 08:02.34 | wols_ | daltio12: any picture hosting site on the interwebs |
| 08:02.36 | nsadmin | daltio12 what's the filename |
| 08:02.45 | daltio12 | eth0 |
| 08:02.47 | babilen | daltio12: imgur.com for example |
| 08:03.09 | wols_ | daltio12: you are wrong. you are on windows therefore that file has an extension too |
| 08:03.10 | majhool | The_Thing: i bet you could download the source and build it |
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| 08:03.21 | daltio12 | yes eth0.doc |
| 08:03.28 | babilen | .doc ? *sigh* |
| 08:03.42 | The_Thing | nah... |
| 08:03.48 | nsadmin | the reason kde was pretty much shunned by debian at the time was libqt was not free and maybe even not available |
| 08:03.53 | babilen | daltio12: *at least* post a pdf |
| 08:04.02 | majhool | it wasn't free |
| 08:04.10 | daltio12 | ok ill but where |
| 08:04.11 | daltio12 | ? |
| 08:04.21 | Vlad___ | why you ask about OS? i can boot from LiveCd any *nix OS |
| 08:04.22 | majhool | that was a big deal back then |
| 08:04.41 | wols_ | majhool: hard. kde itself only has 1.1 |
| 08:04.54 | nsadmin | Vlad___: oh, well, then maybe you can run debootstrap from that |
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| 08:04.59 | majhool | wols_: hmmm |
| 08:05.01 | nsadmin | but let me suggest another approach |
| 08:05.04 | wols_ | Vlad___: if you can, then you can boot the installer iso too. |
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| 08:05.10 | nsadmin | try downloading the netinst |
| 08:05.12 | majhool | revisionism |
| 08:05.25 | nsadmin | Vlad___ are you running a unixalike now |
| 08:05.31 | Vlad___ | no |
| 08:05.36 | babilen | Vlad___: http://goodbye-windows.com/ |
| 08:05.42 | daltio12 | here http://imgur.com/54gwO i want to access machine 3 from mchne 2 , machine 1 can ccess machine 3 with juniper |
| 08:05.52 | wols_ | but as I said, I remmeber getting pre 1.0 kde from cvs in tuebingen (uni town about 40km away from me. back then it was the developer cvs of kde) |
| 08:06.03 | Vlad___ | there is no windows on the PC where i want install Debian |
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| 08:06.28 | taras | wols_: same without swap |
| 08:06.39 | wols_ | taras: what is done directly after swap? |
| 08:06.42 | babilen | Vlad___: What do you have on that computer? |
| 08:06.50 | taras | wols_: resolvconf |
| 08:07.14 | Vlad___ | "try downloading the netinst" when i boot netinst ---it also try to find files and cant find |
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| 08:07.28 | wols_ | taras: I'd boot in single user moder and execute the init scripts one by one :) |
| 08:07.36 | wols_ | sooner or later you should find the offender |
| 08:08.02 | Vlad___ | babilen this is clean disk with one partition |
| 08:08.09 | nsadmin | Vlad___, could you check the install guide? do you have a usb key or usb external hd? can the machine in question boot from usb? |
| 08:08.09 | babilen | Vlad___: Which operating system is running on the computer now? What is your actualy goad (installing lenny?) Can you boot from external media? |
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| 08:08.30 | babilen | s/actualy goad/actual goal/ |
| 08:08.32 | nsadmin | his goad is to goal |
| 08:08.35 | daltio12 | nsadmin? ??? wols |
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| 08:09.28 | Vlad___ | now i boot from usb key |
| 08:09.46 | wols_ | daltio12: enable ip forwarding on machine 1 (provided machine 3 can access machine 1) |
| 08:10.05 | nsadmin | ok, how large is it? does it have stuff you need? if so do you have a blank key that is at least a gig? |
| 08:10.12 | babilen | !tell Vlad___ -about usb install |
| 08:10.50 | thechef | How can I pass arguments to a program that I want to execute as a different user using su,without concatening multiple original command line arguments into one argument? this example echoes nothing: su otheruser -- -c -- echo echo this and that |
| 08:10.59 | babilen | Vlad___: Follow "The easy way" if you want to install from your USB stick. Don't you have a CD drive in there? |
| 08:11.00 | nsadmin | so far there's no indication you're looking at the install guide, which should be supplementing this conversation |
| 08:11.06 | thechef | *concatenating |
| 08:11.34 | npoektop | where to get logs of this channel? |
| 08:11.42 | babilen | npoektop: No public logging |
| 08:11.47 | Vlad___ | this 4gb flash, no thereis no Cd there |
| 08:12.10 | Psi-Jack | npoektop: Public logging of chat on freenode is prohibited. |
| 08:12.19 | nsadmin | do you need the present contents of that flash for a particular ongoing purpose? |
| 08:12.22 | babilen | Vlad___: Well, follow the USB install instructions in the installation guide |
| 08:12.33 | krisfremen | Psi-Jack: right... |
| 08:12.42 | krisfremen | that's why google is full of freenode logs |
| 08:13.04 | nsadmin | because public logging can get freenode staff in trouble occasionally... |
| 08:13.34 | babilen | krisfremen: That still does not make it right - and public logging is prohibited. But Freenode does not have the resources to enforce this. |
| 08:13.54 | nsadmin | npoektop: well there's your answer... search google :) |
| 08:14.21 | Psi-Jack | http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
| 08:14.36 | Psi-Jack | It's not specifically forbidden, just discouraged from. |
| 08:14.47 | Vlad___ | babilen so, i'll try to install from manual dpkg.. |
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| 08:15.14 | nsadmin | Vlad___: are you now reading the install guide yet? |
| 08:15.20 | npoektop | too sad, i missed an answer for my question. I slept. |
| 08:15.36 | nsadmin | sheesh. |
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| 08:15.43 | nsadmin | what was your question :P |
| 08:15.46 | Vlad___ | no, i already have read this guide |
| 08:16.01 | babilen | Vlad___: Why don't you follow it then? |
| 08:16.29 | Vlad___ | there was another trouble |
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| 08:16.49 | Vlad___ | may be i made a mistake |
| 08:17.08 | babilen | Vlad___: So you followed "The easy way" and ran into problems? Could you be a little less vague? |
| 08:17.24 | Vlad___ | now i ll make everythink one more time and then write.. |
| 08:17.31 | nsadmin | here's the thing... I'm getting more frustrated trying to help when there's not much feedback... when I ask you questions, I don't get responses and this leads to frustration |
| 08:17.51 | babilen | I agree ^^^ |
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| 08:18.19 | nsadmin | so that's how I'm feeling.... here is my request |
| 08:18.56 | wols_ | babilen, nsadmin: I know it's easer and all. but aren't you two ashamed how naive you are? |
| 08:18.56 | nsadmin | Vlad___, could you pay more attention to the channel when you're trying to get help for your install issues |
| 08:19.04 | wols_ | *easter |
| 08:19.11 | nsadmin | sunday? |
| 08:19.17 | wols_ | yes. that too |
| 08:19.17 | Vlad___ | you write very fast |
| 08:19.39 | Vlad___ | i spend too much time for translation((( |
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| 08:19.49 | wols_ | !ru |
| 08:19.50 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 08:19.55 | nsadmin | what's an easier language? |
| 08:19.55 | wols_ | maybe ask there then? |
| 08:20.10 | wols_ | nsadmin: moscow based ISP |
| 08:20.24 | Vlad___ | y |
| 08:20.38 | nsadmin | would that be easier? |
| 08:20.59 | babilen | Vlad___: i386 or amd64 ? |
| 08:21.07 | Vlad___ | 386 |
| 08:22.42 | babilen | Vlad___: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.ru |
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| 08:23.00 | nsadmin | wols: maybe naive, but just trying to be somewhat useful. it's frustrating tho, noticing I seem to be blocked at every turn, even by the people who are asking the original questions |
| 08:23.20 | Vlad___ | i used command from manual:"zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX" and then when i try to copy my Iso to /dev/sdX--it override all files on drive |
| 08:23.44 | babilen | Vlad___: You don't copy the content of the ISO but rather the ISO *file* |
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| 08:23.49 | nsadmin | you copy the -file- there |
| 08:24.07 | nsadmin | don't unpack the iso, write it to the media -as- an iso |
| 08:24.39 | npoektop | all together, let's say thank you, nsadmin! ) |
| 08:24.54 | nsadmin | I'm not the only one helping here |
| 08:25.00 | nsadmin | not by a long shot |
| 08:25.04 | nsadmin | but |
| 08:25.07 | nsadmin | yw |
| 08:25.09 | Vlad___ | ok, now i'll make it again and write there in half of an houre |
| 08:25.31 | nsadmin | gone. |
| 08:25.48 | nsadmin | if he was still here we could say "netinst" |
| 08:25.53 | babilen | wishes him good luck :) |
| 08:26.11 | nsadmin | save him 75% of that time3 |
| 08:26.39 | babilen | That part in the documentation seems to be pretty vague - A lot of users make that mistake :-\ |
| 08:26.47 | wols_ | nsadmin: I know how you feel since I feel the same. but you still naive if you think your whining will better anything :P |
| 08:27.26 | nsadmin | you call it whining... I call it whining too, but the intent is to call it out |
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| 08:27.41 | wols_ | wonder how one can help making the ig better? not exactly a wiki or such |
| 08:28.05 | wols_ | nsadmin: the trouble is, the people who should follow your suggestion won't |
| 08:28.08 | nsadmin | the thing is the ig puts every possible permutation of install together |
| 08:28.11 | babilen | wols_: file a bug .. might do that later |
| 08:28.23 | nsadmin | wols_, yep that's the problem alright |
| 08:28.50 | nsadmin | I was shocked when the net guy made a diagram :) |
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| 08:29.29 | wols_ | but he's beyond help. he's been here before *shudder* |
| 08:29.38 | nsadmin | haha |
| 08:29.51 | nsadmin | which one? |
| 08:30.04 | wols_ | daltio12 |
| 08:30.21 | nsadmin | oh, rightr |
| 08:30.27 | babilen | ot? |
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| 08:31.06 | nsadmin | aint nuthin goin on on topic :P |
| 08:31.33 | nsadmin | I tend to stop when support traffic presents itself |
| 08:32.18 | nsadmin | should be scared... my otness will be appearing in the google logs :) |
| 08:33.01 | babilen | Nobody is "beyond help" and I think that this channels attitude should reflect that, so that prople are not afraid of asking questions. If *we* want to relax for a while let's do that in ot |
| 08:33.20 | babilen | s/proble/people |
| 08:33.22 | babilen | hehe |
| 08:33.25 | nsadmin | for the last 5 or so years, it's been a load issue |
| 08:33.51 | mbruins | any suggestions on this output? yatc: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_gfx.so.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. google give one hit |
| 08:33.51 | babilen | I know, just saying. |
| 08:34.28 | nsadmin | not enough helpers who aren't so incredibly busy screening for nondebian runners they can't get their mind back to trying to help |
| 08:34.32 | babilen | !tell mbruins -about apt-file |
| 08:35.16 | babilen | mbruins: Or search on http://packages.debian.org |
| 08:35.47 | nsadmin | mbruins: I get the impression something wasn't installed properly |
| 08:36.05 | nsadmin | , file yatc |
| 08:36.08 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 08:36.10 | babilen | mbruins: Which program is that? It looks as if its package dependencies are wrong - How did you install it? |
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| 08:36.32 | mbruins | babilen: http://yatc.vucica.net/downloads#debian |
| 08:36.32 | nsadmin | Yet Another Tomato Catsup? |
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| 08:37.09 | babilen | Ah, sub-standard third-party Debian packages .. |
| 08:37.13 | nsadmin | which SDL does it need? that's probably as far as we can get |
| 08:37.13 | babilen | nsadmin: hehe :) |
| 08:37.45 | babilen | mbruins: Problem fixed? |
| 08:38.42 | babilen | ,file libSDL_gfx.so.13 --release squeeze |
| 08:38.45 | judd | libSDL_gfx.so.13 in squeeze/i386: libsdl-gfx1.2-4: usr/lib/libSDL_gfx.so.13 |
| 08:38.56 | babilen | ,versions libsdl-gfx1.2-4 |
| 08:38.58 | judd | libsdl-gfx1.2-4 -- etch: 2.0.13-2+b1; lenny: 2.0.13-4; sid: 2.0.20-1; squeeze: 2.0.20-1 |
| 08:39.13 | babilen | (but .13 is not in the lenny package) |
| 08:39.35 | babilen | or is it? Ah, check that yourself :) |
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| 08:45.57 | rajeshsr | hi |
| 08:46.19 | rajeshsr | For the debian haskellers, i just back ported ghc 6.12 and uploaded it. |
| 08:46.25 | rajeshsr | just check out: http://rajeshsr.co.cc/blogs/2010/04/04/ghc6-6-12-haskell-deb-packages-for-x86-lenny/ |
| 08:46.56 | rajeshsr | if there is any other efficient way to share the debs let me know.. |
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| 08:51.35 | babilen | rajeshsr: So the "ssb" worked? It was just a lot of effort? (space/time) |
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| 08:51.59 | rajeshsr | babilen, yep! it worked taking a huge space and time! |
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| 08:53.02 | mischief | for some reason hostname --fqdn is hanging. anyone have any clue? im on debian |
| 08:53.08 | babilen | rajeshsr: Ok, that are great news. You might want to contact debian-haskell ML or the backports maintainers if they are willing to get backports for ghc6.12 into the official mirrors. But the debian-haskell team is drowning in work already :-\ |
| 08:53.10 | rajeshsr | babilen, just curious why is it called ssb? |
| 08:53.30 | babilen | rajeshsr: I think it is "simple sid backport" |
| 08:54.04 | rajeshsr | babilen, yeah, haskell for debian needs a lot of improvement. I expect a lot out of haskell mainteners in debian.. |
| 08:54.52 | babilen | rajeshsr: They are working hard and the platform is finally in Debian .. I am sure they welcome every single bit of help. So if you have a little spare time contact them :) |
| 08:54.52 | rajeshsr | babilen, let me try to contact them. |
| 08:55.20 | rajeshsr | babilen, sure, will do that. |
| 08:55.42 | babilen | rajeshsr: That would be fantastic. :) |
| 08:57.56 | babilen | rajeshsr: There is also #debian-haskell on irc.oftc.net |
| 08:58.18 | rajeshsr | babilen, yeah, just now found out.. |
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| 08:59.09 | babilen | rajeshsr: But I guess that you'll have more luck on the ML |
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| 08:59.32 | rajeshsr | is it #debian-ML? |
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| 09:00.00 | streuner__ | !ml |
| 09:00.00 | dpkg | i guess ml is meta-language, a functional language used by computer science professors to frustrate their students.. Mali, or short for <Mailing List> |
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| 09:00.57 | babilen | rajeshsr: http://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/ |
| 09:01.02 | nsadmin | so this ml is an example of the language used to describe lisp in "Anatomy of Lisp"? |
| 09:01.13 | mischief | any ideas about hostname --fqdn not working? |
| 09:01.36 | nsadmin | hanging? |
| 09:01.43 | nsadmin | what exactly happens? |
| 09:02.34 | mischief | it says 'hostname: Host name lookup failure' and thats it |
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| 09:06.18 | nsadmin | look at the file /etc/hostname |
| 09:06.31 | mischief | it has the hostname in it |
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| 09:07.32 | nsadmin | probably --fqdn does a dns lookup? |
| 09:07.44 | nsadmin | not sure, check the man page |
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| 09:08.02 | majhool | nsadmin: strace shows it checking resolv.conf, so i'd say yes |
| 09:08.21 | majhool | mischief: do you have an entry for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts? |
| 09:08.40 | mischief | yes |
| 09:08.42 | rajeshsr | babilen, will post in mailing list about it. Thanks for your guidance. |
| 09:09.12 | nsadmin | majhool: good catch:) |
| 09:09.21 | babilen | rajeshsr: You are welcome :) |
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| 09:09.24 | majhool | nsadmin: hey, thanks! |
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| 09:10.26 | nsadmin | mischief, this depends on a lot of factors... first is your machine directly connected with a real routable IP address? |
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| 09:10.54 | mischief | well |
| 09:10.55 | mischief | sort of |
| 09:10.56 | mischief | its a chroot |
| 09:11.55 | NoReflex | hello! I have a file archive which contains lots of files but after extraction the names are like Map\0\1\POITile10 ... I guess the directory structure got messed up. I hope I can solve this with find . -type f exec mv "???" but I haven't used find with exec until now. I believe the only character that should be changed is \ to / ... but this should also create necessary subdirs. Is it possible? |
| 09:12.51 | mischief | i think you'd need to write a shell script for that NoReflex. or use perl. |
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| 09:13.35 | cafaro | Hi, I'm trying to get X working with Debian Lenny using an ATI HD3650 Mobility Readeon, but no success thus far, could anyone who had similar experiences in the past help me out with this? (I already tried installing ATI's latest driver, from their support site) |
| 09:13.48 | NoReflex | mischief: thx; will try |
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| 09:14.34 | majhool | NoReflex: man rename |
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| 09:16.20 | nsadmin | perl might be easier to read and write than shell, and maybe others easier still |
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| 09:18.10 | NoReflex | majhool: I tried rename 's/\\/\//' * - but it can't create the subdirs...Can't rename Map\0\1\POITile10 Map/0\1\POITile10: No such file or directory |
| 09:18.41 | NoReflex | and also it seems to only change the first / |
| 09:18.58 | majhool | for that you want to end the regex in g |
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| 09:19.10 | nsadmin | poot a gee aphter da s/// command |
| 09:19.35 | majhool | you might want to use a different delimiter, too |
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| 09:20.01 | majhool | as for the the directories, check out find -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 09:20.04 | demin | newb question: i ended up adding an etch source to my sources.list file and upgrading things on my previously-lenny-based distributino on this eeepc |
| 09:20.22 | demin | after installing gnome and etc, things have been going haywire |
| 09:20.22 | majhool | that is to say, read about using xargs with find, and be sure to check out -0 |
| 09:20.31 | demin | I guess I need to... downgrade? |
| 09:20.33 | majhool | because you have spaces in your filenames |
| 09:21.30 | demin | er nm one lided added queezer to the depository list |
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| 09:22.24 | babilen | demin: You shouldn't be able to "upgrade" packages from lenny to etch |
| 09:23.22 | majhool | NoReflex: now i see your problem; you expanded something that's named a file, say, a\b\c, and you think it meant "stick c inside of directory b inside of directory a" |
| 09:23.51 | NoReflex | yes |
| 09:23.56 | majhool | NoReflex: that's not great |
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| 09:24.11 | majhool | what kind of archive was this |
| 09:24.26 | NoReflex | zip.... |
| 09:24.49 | dutchfish | what if they messed with the fabric? |
| 09:24.50 | nsadmin | it means that in winzerz but a/b/c means that in uniks |
| 09:24.53 | demin | babilen: then I imagine whatever error I commited wasn't that simple... udevd is throwing up thousands of lines of error messages at startup |
| 09:25.32 | dutchfish | sorry, forget what is said |
| 09:25.46 | majhool | NoReflex: that is one messed up zip fle |
| 09:26.20 | NoReflex | it's a map file for WE_Travel ... a o"ffline" JAVA navigation app |
| 09:26.30 | majhool | well |
| 09:26.44 | majhool | who knows what's it doing |
| 09:27.04 | babilen | demin: What does aptitude search ~i~Aoldstable give you? |
| 09:27.05 | demin | maybe I added etch to on of the sources and some packages used that and they're incompatable? |
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| 09:27.55 | babilen | demin: Could you also paste (http://paste.debian.net) the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 09:27.59 | majhool | if i were you and i wanted to enforce a directory structure on it, i'd write a python script and split on '\' |
| 09:28.22 | demin | babilen search yields 1198 packages |
| 09:28.32 | majhool | or use sed to swap the \ with /, hack off the last element, and then mkdir -p the rest |
| 09:28.43 | majhool | but this is probably misguided anyway |
| 09:29.19 | majhool | and that's it |
| 09:29.23 | majhool | goodnight everybody |
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| 09:29.28 | babilen | demin: To get this straight. You installed lenny (stable) and put etch (oldstable) into your sources.list and aptitude installed a bunch of packages from etch? |
| 09:29.42 | demin | babilen I |
| 09:29.49 | demin | am guessing that's what happaned |
| 09:30.01 | demin | I haven't used linux in years and was trying to install a flash client |
| 09:30.10 | nsadmin | damn enter key too close to ' key... |
| 09:30.19 | babilen | demin: Ok, could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy" please? |
| 09:30.20 | demin | installer recommended added some line to my sources.list, which I blindly did |
| 09:30.25 | demin | yeah one second |
| 09:30.33 | babilen | Which installer? |
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| 09:32.17 | simonrvn | um, not a debian installer |
| 09:32.26 | babilen | demin: Please also include: "uname -r", "cat /etc/debian_version" and "dpkg -l libc6" |
| 09:33.25 | babilen | throws post-b-day cakes at simonrvn |
| 09:33.36 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 09:34.29 | npoektop | ok. is there a small step by step manual for rebuilding kernel? like the rebuilding kernel section in freebsd manual? |
| 09:34.29 | simonrvn | (one goes "splat!" on his face; "mmmm, chocolate!") |
| 09:34.57 | Supaplex | npoektop: yes. |
| 09:35.10 | wols_ | !tell npoektop about kernel-package |
| 09:35.23 | npoektop | Supaplex, mgimo finished? |
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| 09:36.18 | dutchfish | why is it that an app like amarok can't use a hal mounted device by itself, but once a granted non-root-user has accessed it, it can? (/etc/mtab: /dev/sdb1 /media/disk xfs rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal 0 0) |
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| 09:37.06 | babilen | demin: Still at it? |
| 09:37.45 | npoektop | !tell me about life, the universe, and everything |
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| 09:39.22 | wols_ | !tell npoektop about selftell |
| 09:40.42 | npoektop | anyway dpkg doesn't know about it |
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| 09:41.01 | demin | babilen http://www.tommy-york.com/wordpress/?page_id=881 |
| 09:41.05 | babilen | !tell npoektop -about life the universe and everything |
| 09:41.35 | demin | i need a better x11 terminal, that was a lot of work |
| 09:42.06 | babilen | demin: And you could paste to http://paste.debian.net :) |
| 09:42.58 | demin | babilen bookmarking this one for sure |
| 09:42.59 | babilen | demin: It looks as if you added squeeze or sid (testing/unstable) to your sources.list and you already upgraded your libc6 |
| 09:43.00 | wols_ | demin: there is no etch anywhere. however, there is testin/unstable |
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| 09:44.23 | babilen | demin: And you then removed squeeze/sid from your sources .. You have to either (i) Reinstall or (ii) upgrade to squeeze. I *strongly* advise you to reinstall lenny |
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| 09:44.40 | demin | babilen - that's a hard option for me |
| 09:44.49 | babilen | why? |
| 09:45.05 | demin | babilen I've been trying desperately to get this thing to boot off sdc |
| 09:45.10 | demin | my only external disk at the moment |
| 09:45.16 | demin | and have been failing miserably |
| 09:45.28 | demin | plus I have access to no other computers or even a usb cd drive at the moment |
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| 09:45.51 | babilen | demin: Don't you have the Debian install CD around? |
| 09:45.59 | demin | babilen I |
| 09:46.02 | demin | 'm on an eeePC |
| 09:46.08 | demin | + around the globe, HK. |
| 09:46.10 | babilen | Ah, usb install |
| 09:46.41 | babilen | demin: Greetings to Ć©Ā¦ĀƦĀøĀÆ :) |
| 09:47.27 | babilen | demin: Well, you have to reinstall or upgrade to testing. The system you have now is borked |
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| 09:47.58 | demin | is the best way to upgrade to testing to update my sources file then let apt go at it? |
| 09:48.09 | wols_ | babilen: what I don't get is, udev will have cried bloody murder when he did |
| 09:48.23 | babilen | yeah :-\ |
| 09:48.43 | demin | I've never experienced any bootup eary like it |
| 09:48.55 | demin | just row and row of same error message over and over |
| 09:48.58 | babilen | demin: Could you give us your udev version? (apt-cache policy udev) |
| 09:49.00 | demin | to which ctrl-c could not break |
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| 09:49.32 | simonrvn | rc catches interrupts |
| 09:51.27 | demin | babilen installed 151-3 |
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| 09:53.18 | cafaro | Hi, I'm trying to get X working with Debian Lenny using an ATI HD3650 Mobility Readeon, but no success thus far, could anyone who had similar experiences in the past help me out with this? (I already tried installing ATI's latest driver, from their support site) |
| 09:53.48 | babilen | demin: Paste the output of "aptitude search ~i~n^linux-image" please |
| 09:54.28 | asdfadsf | hi, i asked about installation debian from flash drive, i followed already this guide: http://manurevah.com/blah/en/pages/install-debian-via-usb-boot, but i dont know to do then, kernel boot and installer ask for cdrom, but i have no cdrom, iso file is flash |
| 09:54.59 | wols_ | !tell asdfadsf about usb install |
| 09:56.14 | asdfadsf | no effect |
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| 09:57.02 | demin | babilen I can get nothing to paste one second |
| 09:57.29 | wols_ | asdfadsf: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 09:57.45 | demin | linux-image-2.6-686 \ A linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 09:57.50 | asdfadsf | wols -- i used this guide |
| 09:58.17 | babilen | demin: Paste your command and the complete output to http://paste.debian.net please |
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| 09:59.08 | wols_ | asdfadsf: what file(s) are on the stick? what can you see when you ls it? |
| 09:59.32 | uwjesd | Can I hybernate an app so that I can restore it even after a reboot? |
| 10:00.05 | asdfadsf | files, which was created with command: zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdX Plus file Iso: debian-xxx.netinst.iso |
| 10:00.14 | demin | babilen http://paste.debian.net/67384/ |
| 10:00.39 | wols_ | !tell uwjesd about suspend |
| 10:00.54 | wols_ | asdfadsf: that's not what I asked. please answer my question |
| 10:01.19 | babilen | demin: Well, you options are still the same: (i) reinstall (ii) upgrade to squeeze (unsupported) |
| 10:01.23 | nsadmin | asdfadsf after the zcat, there should be a filesystem on the key |
| 10:01.29 | nsadmin | how many files? |
| 10:02.04 | wols_ | demin: and boot from the proper kernel. the kernel you used when you upgraded to squeeze |
| 10:02.25 | nsadmin | asdfadsf and using what command exactly, did you put the iso on the key |
| 10:02.25 | uwjesd | wols_: I take it that means that there is no solution to the issue I described. |
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| 10:02.48 | demin | babilen will try updating to squeeze, thanks for the help |
| 10:02.59 | wols_ | uwjesd: you take wrongly. but all you can do is hibernate the full OS. not just pieces |
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| 10:03.55 | uwjesd | wols_: Nah, then I got it right and your remark did not help at all. |
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| 10:04.47 | asdfadsf | wols and nsadmin : http://paste.debian.net/67385/ |
| 10:04.53 | asdfadsf | this all files |
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| 10:08.21 | asdfadsf | what shall i see when boot the PC? |
| 10:08.52 | wols_ | the debian installer |
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| 10:10.09 | nsadmin | ok, so it had all files but the .iso right after you did the zcat? |
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| 10:13.23 | asdfadsf | no. iso i copy manuallu |
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| 10:14.42 | nsadmin | ok let me make sure we're communicating... |
| 10:14.57 | asdfadsf | ? |
| 10:15.02 | nsadmin | you did the zcat to the device first... yes? |
| 10:15.10 | asdfadsf | yes |
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| 10:15.29 | nsadmin | at that point you had, what. 20 or so files/dirs you could see? |
| 10:15.58 | asdfadsf | after works zcat |
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| 10:16.17 | nsadmin | then how exactly did you copy the iso? |
| 10:16.34 | nsadmin | (you must have mounted the key, yes?) |
| 10:16.37 | asdfadsf | cp debian.iso /mnt |
| 10:16.41 | asdfadsf | yes |
| 10:16.50 | nsadmin | ok, that sounds good to me |
| 10:17.03 | nsadmin | see if it boots :) |
| 10:17.11 | asdfadsf | i mounted into /mnt/1 and cp .iso /mnt/1 |
| 10:17.30 | nsadmin | where 1 is a dir in /mnt? |
| 10:17.36 | asdfadsf | y |
| 10:17.43 | nsadmin | sounds good... |
| 10:17.56 | nsadmin | be sure to unmount first |
| 10:18.05 | nsadmin | don't just pull key |
| 10:18.12 | nsadmin | or power cycle |
| 10:18.19 | nsadmin | before unmounting |
| 10:18.35 | asdfadsf | it told that device is busy |
| 10:18.44 | asdfadsf | i couldn't unmount it |
| 10:18.51 | nsadmin | so there is a process in there |
| 10:19.05 | nsadmin | do you have a window open to it? |
| 10:19.12 | nsadmin | do you have a shell cd-ed in there |
| 10:19.22 | asdfadsf | no, i closed all windows |
| 10:19.37 | nsadmin | were they konqueror windows? |
| 10:20.16 | asdfadsf | if you want i ll make this actions now again |
| 10:20.41 | nsadmin | did you powercycle instead of unmount? |
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| 10:21.08 | asdfadsf | no, i just pull key |
| 10:21.17 | nsadmin | before unmount? |
| 10:21.31 | asdfadsf | yes, it was last time |
| 10:21.38 | nsadmin | dang, you'll have to do it again I think |
| 10:21.51 | nsadmin | dpm |
| 10:21.53 | nsadmin | dpom |
| 10:22.05 | nsadmin | don't let it open a window to the device |
| 10:23.24 | daltio12 | wols ip fowarding is 1 on machine 1 and 1 |
| 10:23.34 | daltio12 | sorry i got dc |
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| 10:24.12 | asdfadsf | [root@dhcppc1 Desktop]# umount /media/disk |
| 10:24.12 | asdfadsf | umount: /media/disk: device is busy |
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| 10:24.35 | nsadmin | got a window open? |
| 10:24.46 | asdfadsf | no |
| 10:24.50 | dimir | asdfadsf: lsof | grep /disk |
| 10:25.20 | nsadmin | don't pull the key :) |
| 10:25.26 | asdfadsf | bash 5225 root cwd DIR 8,33 4096 1 /media/di sk |
| 10:25.38 | dimir | so you are in that dir somewhere. |
| 10:25.45 | dimir | You can kill this bash process |
| 10:25.49 | nsadmin | look at your shell |
| 10:25.59 | nsadmin | or just find that shell and cd otu |
| 10:26.03 | dimir | kill -KILL 5225 |
| 10:26.08 | asdfadsf | sorry, my mistake |
| 10:26.13 | dimir | OK. |
| 10:26.22 | nsadmin | then try unmounting again |
| 10:26.24 | asdfadsf | ok. unmounted |
| 10:26.28 | nsadmin | excellent |
| 10:26.33 | nsadmin | it should boot |
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| 10:26.57 | asdfadsf | trying.. |
| 10:27.33 | nsadmin | asdfadsf: this is a good (basic) unix admin lesson you have learned in part by banging your head several times on your desk :) |
| 10:28.32 | nsadmin | it's painful but unfortunately a common way people have learned |
| 10:28.32 | asdfadsf | no, it still not work |
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| 10:28.41 | nsadmin | what does it do? |
| 10:28.55 | nsadmin | I wonder if you have to edit one of those config files |
| 10:28.56 | daltio12 | nsadmin any idea on my prb sorry for delays i got dc |
| 10:29.20 | daltio12 | here is my network diagram http://imgur.com/54gwO |
| 10:30.02 | nsadmin | daltio12, the only thing I know for sure (other than how late it is and how early I have to get up :) is you have at least one instance of a machine using a gateway not in the machine's subnet |
| 10:30.33 | asdfadsf | installer menu: 1)choose language 2) choose keyboard 3) search and mount cd-drives 4) booting of components of install programm from CD 5) detection of NIC |
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| 10:30.45 | nsadmin | that's the installer |
| 10:30.48 | daltio12 | i know see machine 1 and 2 are connected through vpn |
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| 10:31.20 | nsadmin | unfortunately I can't take on the network problem now |
| 10:31.53 | babilen | asdfadsf: What is the problem now? You have the installer! |
| 10:31.54 | asdfadsf | if chhoose 4) ---it say that cant find standard CDrom |
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| 10:32.40 | asdfadsf | it ask "may i boot drivers for cdrom from removable device?" |
| 10:32.57 | asdfadsf | Y/N? |
| 10:33.13 | asdfadsf | I ansewered No |
| 10:33.15 | npoektop | i did apt-get install linux-source. where is it now? |
| 10:33.25 | babilen | npoektop: /usr/src/ |
| 10:33.39 | babilen | npoektop: Or generally "dpkg -L PKG |
| 10:33.42 | npoektop | babilen, thank you |
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| 10:34.31 | npoektop | babilen, i guess i shoud not make it under root? |
| 10:34.34 | asdfadsf | Installer ask then "Standard cd not found, May be you use old device? Choose module and device CD-ROM manually?" |
| 10:34.59 | babilen | npoektop: Do what? |
| 10:35.09 | asdfadsf | I answered Yes |
| 10:35.18 | npoektop | do make) |
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| 10:35.38 | babilen | npoektop: What are you trying to do? Are you trying to compile a kernel? |
| 10:35.41 | asdfadsf | And then there is Command line where i should type the CD-device |
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| 10:36.05 | npoektop | babilen, yes, i am |
| 10:36.27 | asdfadsf | so, if i type "/dev/sdb1" it failed |
| 10:36.33 | babilen | asdfadsf: The installer should find the ISO you copied to the stick automagically AFAIK - Try moving it to the root of the stick's filesystem |
| 10:36.34 | npoektop | ok. i have a manual. no more stupid questions |
| 10:36.41 | babilen | !tell npoektop -about make-kpkg |
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| 10:37.32 | babilen | npoektop: Why do you want to compile your own kernel? |
| 10:38.21 | npoektop | babilen, just for fun. no really |
| 10:38.37 | npoektop | babilen, i found this http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
| 10:38.53 | AimHere | It's a rite of passage. If you haven't compiled your own kernel, you can't really sneer at Ubuntu users as noobs. |
| 10:39.18 | npoektop | there is nothing about make-kpkg |
| 10:39.40 | babilen | I see - Well you would use make-kpkg to compile a kernel or "/msg dpkg kernel compile" |
| 10:39.41 | npoektop | are those ways equivalent? |
| 10:39.45 | babilen | no |
| 10:39.57 | babilen | I guess that the kernel handbook is a bit outdated .. |
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| 10:41.04 | npoektop | is there a good online manual for that? i didnt find |
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| 10:44.05 | asdfadsf | i have exactly this trouble: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/260672 |
| 10:44.42 | wols_ | asdfadsf: then ask ubuntu since this is a ubuntu bug report |
| 10:45.10 | wols_ | asdfadsf: and note how this bugreport is resolved. There is a workaround described right on this page |
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| 10:45.59 | babilen | npoektop: Install kernel-package and read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz |
| 10:46.16 | npoektop | babilen, reading it |
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| 10:49.07 | babilen | npoektop: http://www.debianadmin.com/step-by-step-tutorial-howto-compile-kernel-in-debian-5-0-lenny.html - Have fun (and use the stock kernel after you are satisfied) :) |
| 10:50.22 | npoektop | stock kernel? What types of kernels are available in market? ) |
| 10:50.53 | babilen | npoektop: stock kernel == kernel as shipped by Debian (linux-image-yadda-yadda) |
| 10:51.11 | babilen | npoektop: But here is vanilla, chocolate, almond, .. :) |
| 10:51.43 | thechef | How can I display the sheduling priority at which a process is running? |
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| 10:54.52 | wols_ | if I want to run several X11 instances at the same time, I cannot use one videocard for all of them, right? So what X servers are tehre which I can run several times at the same time? |
| 10:55.16 | wols_ | I remember xfvb from way back, and I guess there is some vnc xservers. are there any others? |
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| 10:57.36 | npoektop | babilen, i found a newer kernel-image than i have installed. how to install it? just do aptitude install? again no manual |
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| 10:59.32 | wols_ | npoektop: where did you find it? |
| 11:00.08 | nkuttler | wols_: xvfb is still packaged |
| 11:00.25 | wols_ | nkuttler: that's not what I asked. I asked if there are others I could use :) |
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| 11:03.03 | babilen | npoektop: "found" - I thought you want to try compiling your own kernel for fun? |
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| 11:09.08 | biopyte | i want to clean up my audio collection with all these messy file names. whats a powerful still convenient tool that recursively renames files in all subdirectories therbz replacin blank with underscore and this kind of stuff? |
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| 11:09.30 | babilen | biopyte: "this kind of stuff" ? |
| 11:09.42 | babilen | biopyte: rename might be what you are after .. |
| 11:09.56 | biopyte | cleaning up filenames ... deleting special characters etc... |
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| 11:10.11 | babilen | biopyte: What are special characters? |
| 11:10.12 | Bennit | hi |
| 11:10.21 | Bennit | anyone else having trouble with php mysql functions? |
| 11:10.23 | biopyte | @!() |
| 11:10.27 | Bennit | they seem to be gone! |
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| 11:11.21 | biopyte | babilen: rename uses regex and does work recursively. works, but i need something better. |
| 11:11.23 | babilen | biopyte: yeah, i would use rename for that. You have to write a script though to make it recurse into subdirectories. You want to start with the leaves of the search tree and rename then, then pop from the directory stack |
| 11:11.35 | Bennit | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.55 | Bennit | did a recent update remove all of the mysql functionality for php? |
| 11:12.05 | babilen | biopyte: What is wrong with rename? |
| 11:12.37 | Bennit | the php5-mysql package also seems to be broken |
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| 11:12.57 | biopyte | babilen: writing scripts thats exactly what i want to avoid. basically i know how to do it, but its a long time ago i wrote my last script. dont want waste too mch time, i "m grown up, i have other things to do :-) |
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| 11:13.20 | babilen | biopyte: sure, hang on .. |
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| 11:14.43 | cafaro | Hi, I'm trying to get X working with Debian Lenny using an ATI HD3650 Mobility Readeon, but no success thus far, could anyone who had similar experiences in the past help me out with this? (I already tried installing ATI's latest driver, from their support site) |
| 11:16.06 | npoektop | should i do make-dpkg with --initrd? |
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| 11:16.56 | babilen | cafaro: Too bad you already tried their drivers - they are not supported in here. "/msg dpkg ati" and read the wiki site |
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| 11:21.22 | babilen | biopyte: http://paste.debian.net/67392/ (that is a *very* simple script that you could use - just adapt the newname=`..` to your needs and run it from CWD == where to start |
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| 11:36.49 | npoektop | when i do make menuconfig, is it generic configuration used in stock kernels? |
| 11:37.51 | abrotman | why are you compiling a kernel? |
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| 11:38.30 | brutus | How do I set global keybindings for rhythmbox? |
| 11:38.31 | CAiRO | hi |
| 11:38.40 | CAiRO | what's the best way of chrooting apache in lenny? |
| 11:38.43 | CAiRO | mod_chroot? |
| 11:39.16 | npoektop | abortman, to satisfy my curiosity |
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| 11:40.09 | renton_ | do you know a simple midi editor for gnome? (rosegarden is too much advanced and it requires too many stuff from KDE) |
| 11:40.20 | abrotman | npoektop: then i think your curiosity will answer that question also. There is plenty of documentation on how to do this, even in the Documentation/ directory of the tarball |
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| 11:42.18 | thechef | is it normal that getty, uses up to 30% CPU some times? |
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| 11:44.11 | abrotman | on a 386? |
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| 11:47.25 | esus | !ciao |
| 11:47.25 | dpkg | ciao is probably both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
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| 11:47.29 | esus | !list |
| 11:47.29 | dpkg | esus: VATTENE VIA |
| 11:47.53 | esus | perche? |
| 11:48.04 | abrotman | esus: go away |
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| 11:48.29 | eshat | haha :D |
| 11:48.45 | renton_ | stupid italians |
| 11:49.05 | eshat | renton_: no rassism please |
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| 11:50.11 | eshat | tell someone-about racism |
| 11:50.20 | eshat | tell renton_ -about racism |
| 11:50.29 | eshat | hmm ,... ??? |
| 11:51.07 | biopyte | babilen, hey thanks a lot. i will try that later, anyway i'm sure you wrote a cool script. once more thank you. |
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| 11:51.51 | eshat | When will all the updates come into unstable, since ries is up again ? |
| 11:52.02 | babilen | biopyte: No, it's not a cool script but a quick hack ... Just adapt the sed/// to your needs (by mangling the name further) |
| 11:53.13 | babilen | eshat: should already be coming in ... |
| 11:53.35 | eshat | babilen: I just got 10 Upgrades today ... |
| 11:53.38 | babilen | eshat: AFAIK Ganneff ran dinstall manually last night |
| 11:53.48 | babilen | eshat: Which Debian branch are you on? |
| 11:53.56 | eshat | babilen: sid |
| 11:54.07 | biopyte | babilen, i think i will get along. blank-rename.sh thats a recursive call of the script itself, i guess?! |
| 11:54.23 | babilen | eshat: The changes also need to get pushed to the mirrors |
| 11:54.43 | babilen | biopyte: exactly - that should have been a function, and there are a million of things i would change ... but yes |
| 11:54.43 | eshat | babilen: I use the german master ftp ... |
| 11:54.51 | biopyte | ok |
| 11:54.59 | babilen | biopyte: So make sure that it is in PATH |
| 11:55.21 | babilen | biopyte: And i haven't tested it a lot ... :) |
| 11:55.21 | biopyte | alright. cant check it out right now. |
| 11:56.03 | biopyte | babilen, ill give it a try, otherwise no problem |
| 11:56.19 | abrotman | eshat: just because you 'only' got 10 doesn't mean anything .. maybe only 10 updates for your installed packages .. or try another mirror |
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| 11:58.20 | eshat | abrotman: I am already using a primary mirror,... do they differ ? Maybe I ll try the australian one, since it starts with "a" :D |
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| 11:58.20 | Annaa | http://tinypic.zapto.org/2kn4m8.png?t=1270381815 do my breasts look to big? |
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| 11:58.30 | biopyte | babilen, yesterday i tried ..... for x in `ls *`; do rename 'y/\ /\_/' $x; done .... didnt work. anyway, ;-) |
| 11:58.39 | abrotman | eshat: how did you decide it was 'primary' ? |
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| 11:59.19 | prince_jammys | biopyte: because of wordsplitting. |
| 11:59.28 | biopyte | exactly! |
| 11:59.35 | prince_jammys | for x in *; do ... ;done ; or just rename 'y/ /_/' * |
| 12:00.19 | biopyte | prince_jammys, ok,, i tried all the ls options but couldnt help it. thanks |
| 12:00.37 | prince_jammys | `ls *` is not needed, and actually breaks things, especially in this case |
| 12:01.28 | prince_jammys | but since rename accepts multiple files, you could just stick a * on the rename command. |
| 12:01.35 | abrotman | eshat: FWIW, i seem to have better luck with the non ftp.<cc>.debian.org mirrors |
| 12:01.49 | biopyte | prince_jammys, but that will not dive into the directories, i guess |
| 12:01.56 | prince_jammys | neither will ls |
| 12:02.01 | babilen | biopyte: no it won't but neither will ls |
| 12:02.10 | prince_jammys | biopyte: oh, i see. |
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| 12:02.23 | prince_jammys | rename 'y/ /_/' * */* :) |
| 12:02.32 | biopyte | ok |
| 12:02.37 | prince_jammys | bah, something like that. |
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| 12:03.15 | biopyte | ls * will list the contents of all first level directories, basically thats ok. |
| 12:03.18 | prince_jammys | if the directory names contain whitespace, it's trickier. |
| 12:03.18 | babilen | biopyte: find + exec might also be a good idea :) |
| 12:03.35 | prince_jammys | then you'd have to deal with depth-first renaming |
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| 12:03.51 | babilen | biopyte: The important thing is that you *have* to start at the leaves of the search tree ... |
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| 12:04.10 | babilen | (i.e. depth first search) |
| 12:04.48 | biopyte | ok, guys, thanks a lot, really. actually, i was looking for a nice gui tool that does the job. i was not into shell scripting ;-)) |
| 12:05.07 | babilen | hehe, not aware of one - but it might exist |
| 12:05.27 | babilen | especially because something like this is quite common :) |
| 12:05.56 | prince_jammys | find . -depth -exec rename 'y/ /_/' {} \; # ot such |
| 12:06.07 | biopyte | there is e.g. pyrenamer, but that one does not work recursively either |
| 12:06.14 | prince_jammys | use rename -n to test. |
| 12:06.21 | biopyte | ok |
| 12:06.22 | babilen | biopyte: krename? |
| 12:06.45 | babilen | ,info krename |
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| 12:06.46 | judd | krename (kde, optional): Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. Version: 3.0.14-1; Size: 326.3k; Installed: 1280k; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/krename |
| 12:06.56 | biopyte | yep, usually i try to avoid the kde stuff |
| 12:07.09 | prince_jammys | biopyte: nope, the rename is wrong because of "foo bar/baz quux" |
| 12:07.22 | prince_jammys | you have to rename only the basename |
| 12:07.30 | biopyte | thank you prince_jammys |
| 12:07.58 | biopyte | judd, ok i check it out |
| 12:08.08 | babilen | biopyte: judd is a bot :) |
| 12:08.40 | biopyte | really? friendly bot, though |
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| 12:12.30 | eshat | There should be a script that could check for the most up-to-date debian mirror :D |
| 12:13.08 | eshat | I am sure the should be a file, that contains the last sync time on the mirrors |
| 12:13.57 | xiwang | is the debian lenny's gnome update to 2.30? |
| 12:14.27 | babilen | xiwang: no, and it will never be |
| 12:15.19 | eshat | babilen: also on sid and testing ? |
| 12:16.27 | npoektop | does CONFIG_HZ_300 (or CONFIG_HZ_1000) make the difference? |
| 12:16.42 | abrotman | eshat: there is a page that shows the status |
| 12:16.47 | eshat | babilen: sorry,.. didn't read lenny |
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| 12:17.10 | eshat | abrotman: really,... ? could you find it for me |
| 12:17.25 | abrotman | eshat: debian.org/mirrors/ should have a link to it .. look around the page |
| 12:17.33 | abrotman | eshat: it says ftp.de.debian.org is up to date |
| 12:17.34 | babilen | eshat: no problem - and yes, 2.30 will make it to sid eventually. Not sure about the release goals for squeeze, but IIRC it should be released with 2.30 as well |
| 12:18.11 | abrotman | it is planned for squeeze |
| 12:19.18 | eshat | abrotman: thanks... |
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| 12:38.27 | biopyte | anybody experienced in speech synthesis? tried festival, sounds horrible. espeak isnt bad, but id prefer a female speaker. recommendations? |
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| 12:39.55 | babilen | biopyte: festvox (http://festvox.org/) maybe? |
| 12:40.20 | babilen | biopyte: I guess that festival and festvox are the best you'll get today ... |
| 12:40.23 | abrotman | biopyte: festival can do a female voice |
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| 12:40.51 | biopyte | babilen, have you tried festvox? |
| 12:41.06 | babilen | biopyte: No, we played with festival ... |
| 12:41.33 | biopyte | abrotman, where can i find the (english) female voice? is that a seperate package? |
| 12:41.54 | abrotman | biopyte: i haven't used it in awhile, but i thought it had one |
| 12:42.31 | biopyte | babilen, how did it work, maybe i missed someting, but a quick try was very disappointing. |
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| 12:42.46 | biopyte | abrotman, ok |
| 12:43.40 | abrotman | biopyte: let me look around quickly |
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| 12:44.59 | abrotman | biopyte: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/manual/festival_24.html#SEC97 |
| 12:45.37 | babilen | abrotman: I was about to post the same link, but played with the online voices :-\ |
| 12:45.47 | abrotman | biopyte: apparently it's not in the source package because it's non-free |
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| 12:47.41 | biopyte | abrotman, alright, thanks, maybe it could be downloaded from the festival web page. i'll check it out. |
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| 12:48.58 | abrotman | biopyte: it has a link there |
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| 12:51.39 | biopyte | abrotman, thats a link to mbrola, but they provide only a sample not the voice itself, as I understand so far |
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| 12:52.42 | brounok | Squeeze sucks. |
| 12:52.49 | biopyte | i guess, you wont get a decent speech synthesizer for free, but only for a lot of money |
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| 13:04.30 | mischief | hey is it possible to convert a 64 bit system to a 32 bit one? |
| 13:04.45 | ethen637 | i don't think so |
| 13:04.50 | ethen637 | is it possible ? |
| 13:05.20 | nkuttler | mischief: convert? |
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| 13:05.58 | brounok | might as well try to convert a muslim to christianity. |
| 13:06.08 | abrotman | brounok: trolling won't get you help |
| 13:06.11 | mischief | :| |
| 13:06.23 | brounok | o.o |
| 13:06.24 | mischief | i want to turn my 64 bit installation into a 32 bit one. |
| 13:06.26 | abrotman | mischief: not directly, you can use something like debootstrap |
| 13:06.26 | nkuttler | actually, where is the arch info stored? |
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| 13:06.46 | abrotman | nkuttler: you mean how does 'dpkg-architecture' get its data ? |
| 13:07.18 | nkuttler | abrotman: i guess |
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| 13:08.31 | abrotman | the man page has a little info |
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| 13:33.21 | cyberix | Is there a place on the web where one could silently follow the work of multi-arch developers? |
| 13:33.42 | cyberix | Is anyone actually working on it? |
| 13:34.06 | cyberix | Or is it just a theoretical thing? |
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| 13:35.21 | artur | Hi |
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| 13:36.48 | artur | It is possible to block defined package from installation via apt? I have mysql and mysqlclient compiled from source, and when apt installs it from repository my database fails |
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| 13:39.00 | wols_ | artur: why do you need a special mysql binary? |
| 13:40.08 | artur | wols_, because i have DirectAdmin installed on this server |
| 13:40.25 | wols_ | and? |
| 13:40.28 | artur | it provides special mysql binary |
| 13:40.40 | wols_ | !tell artur about equivs |
| 13:41.07 | artur | thank you |
| 13:41.13 | npoektop | where can i get .config for my stock kernel? |
| 13:41.28 | wols_ | npoektop: /boot |
| 13:41.53 | npoektop | wols_, thank you |
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| 13:43.33 | lautriv | anyone a light idea how to debug gssapi ? |
| 13:44.09 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 13:44.09 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 13:52.13 | lautriv | ok, like always..........wrong channel here |
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| 14:00.05 | phrearch | hello |
| 14:00.32 | phrearch | i just installed a debian squeeze openvz template, and would like python2.6 as default, but the system keeps using 2.5 |
| 14:00.38 | phrearch | any idea how to update smoothly? |
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| 14:11.46 | babilen | phrearch: 2.6 is not yet the default version and i would not encourage you to use it as default version |
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| 14:12.19 | aguitel | how unistall evolution ? |
| 14:12.30 | abrotman | aptitude remove evolution |
| 14:12.36 | babilen | phrearch: But ask #debian-python @ irc.oftc.net for details, they should know best about the difficulties you might run into |
| 14:12.50 | aguitel | abrakadabra, but it uninstall some of gnome to |
| 14:12.58 | abrotman | !beer abrakadabra |
| 14:12.58 | dpkg | pulls out an exquisite Stone Arrogant Bastard for abrakadabra |
| 14:13.08 | phrearch | babilen: ok thanks |
| 14:13.13 | aguitel | abrotman, but it uninstall some of gnome to |
| 14:13.14 | abrotman | !unmarkauto |
| 14:13.15 | dpkg | Is aptitude or apt-get trying to remove packages that it thinks were automatically installed? This happens when you "aptitude install gnome" and then later remove bits of it, the gnome meta-package will be uninstalled and aptitude will try to remove lots more. Fix this by running "aptitude install packagename" or "aptitude unmarkauto packagename" on strategically chosen packages, or reinstall the <metapackage>. |
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| 14:13.40 | babilen | !tell aguitel about install gnome |
| 14:13.53 | babilen | aguitel: You might want to install one of the "lighter" metapackages |
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| 14:14.16 | abrakadabra | :) |
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| 14:15.25 | aguitel | babilen, i reed in forum to make first :aptitude keep-all,and then aptitude purge evolution is that correct ? |
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| 14:15.47 | aguitel | babilen, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39045 |
| 14:16.12 | babilen | aguitel: not necessarily - read aptitude manpage to understand "keep-all" and "purge" and especially how "purge" differs from "remove" |
| 14:16.16 | ws | is there any good tool in debian to determine target flash file and get the url for download? there is a presentation i want to watch on my local machine |
| 14:16.23 | abrotman | aguitel: the bot gave you a hint above |
| 14:16.31 | abrotman | ws: youtube-dl ? |
| 14:16.32 | ws | http://ikt.du.se/2009ht/ik1039/moment4/Examinationsuppgift_Moment4/index.htm |
| 14:16.54 | babilen | aguitel: Just install one of the gnome metapackages (gnome-core, ...) and unmarkauto other packages you want to keep. You can then remove the gnome metapackage and evolution |
| 14:16.56 | ws | abrotman: this is not youtube |
| 14:17.09 | abrotman | ws: not sure it really matters .. i've not used it though |
| 14:17.30 | pzn | offtopic. sorry for the offtopic. I'm outside US and need to buy (99cents) one mp3 song for my children at amazon.com, and they do not sell mp3 outside us. if someone can help me with that (buy for me and I pay you using paypal), please send me pvt message. |
| 14:17.48 | babilen | ws: The flash player places the files in /tmp/ - I guess that there are a bazillion flash-download plugins for firefox |
| 14:18.13 | babilen | ws: youtube-dl might actually work with non-youtube sources too ... try it |
| 14:18.13 | ws | ok |
| 14:18.14 | ws | abrotman: http://ikt.du.se/2009ht/ik1039/moment4/Examinationsuppgift_Moment4/index.htm this is the link |
| 14:18.21 | aguitel | babilen, gnome-core is metapackege? |
| 14:18.28 | babilen | aguitel: yes |
| 14:18.40 | ws | Error: URL does not seem to be a youtube video URL. If it is, report a bug. |
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| 14:19.09 | aguitel | babilen, and you say :unmarkauto other packages ,what is other packages? |
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| 14:19.36 | abrotman | ws: the file is viewer.swf |
| 14:20.24 | ws | abrotman: no that file is too small :) |
| 14:20.27 | wipped | Need help, i search a channel about monitors and dvi and vga can anybody help? |
| 14:20.56 | ws | furthermore is there a standalone flashplayer for Debian? |
| 14:21.21 | abrotman | judd: info swf-player |
| 14:21.22 | judd | No record of package 'swf-player' in lenny/i386. |
| 14:21.24 | abrotman | hrm |
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| 14:21.45 | wipped | Need help, i search a channel about monitors and dvi and vga can anybody help? |
| 14:21.58 | pzn | wipped: if you need help about cables to connect them, www.hardwarebook.info |
| 14:22.30 | wipped | not about connecting |
| 14:22.44 | wipped | wait i say the question what i wanna ask |
| 14:23.03 | pzn | wipped: ok, then I can't help :-) don't know anything about dvi |
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| 14:24.01 | abrotman | xrandr might help |
| 14:24.02 | wipped | i am gonna buy a monitor with VGA and DVI i want the DVI in my main computer and the VGA in my debian server but how can i switch between them without putting them in and out? |
| 14:24.20 | abrotman | wipped: that's a hardware question, and is monitor-dependent |
| 14:24.25 | lindi- | wipped: does the monitor run free software? |
| 14:24.44 | wipped | lindi: idk |
| 14:24.50 | wipped | lindi: not bought yet |
| 14:24.51 | lindi- | has anybody modified monitor firmware upgrades? |
| 14:25.11 | wipped | abrotman: ty |
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| 14:25.41 | lindi- | and do monitor manufacturers even ship firmware upgrades? i don't remember seeing any |
| 14:26.42 | Da_Wrecka | Hmm... Okay, here's the situation; I've got a 20GB Windows partition on my hard drive. I'm using the remaining 60GB to set up Debian, but I want the /home partition to be accessible to Windows too. Given that there's an Ext2 IFS for Windows, is there any reason to format the /home partition as FAT32 instead of ext3? |
| 14:27.19 | abrotman | uhm .. fat32 is a crappy filesystem ? no security ? |
| 14:27.41 | Da_Wrecka | Security isn't a major issue on this system; I'm the only one who's going to be using it |
| 14:28.08 | lindi- | Da_Wrecka: many programs just fail to work without security :) |
| 14:28.10 | tobago | i have created an usb installation with debian-504-i386-netinst.iso and its vmlinuz and initrd.gz. it can be bootet and the installation can be startet, but it fails, when trying to detect the network card (no network card found). is it impossible to install debian on a system without network access? |
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| 14:28.53 | Da_Wrecka | If your system has no network adapter, then why the hell are you trying to use the netinst disc? |
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| 14:30.47 | Da_Wrecka | Yes you can install Debian without a network connection, but you'll need to download the full-size disc, rather than netinst. (whose entire purpose is to allow for a minimal initial download and later just download the packages you want) |
| 14:31.05 | abrotman | no |
| 14:31.08 | abrotman | that's not true at all |
| 14:31.15 | Da_Wrecka | it's not? |
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| 14:32.02 | abrotman | tobago: which part fails? |
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| 14:33.31 | wols_ | tobago: what network chips are there? is it a netbook from asus? |
| 14:34.44 | wols_ | Da_Wrecka: the only debian installer where a network connection is mandatory, is the businesscard installer. all others create a fully functional debian when offline |
| 14:35.56 | Da_Wrecka | huh. I stand corrected. |
| 14:36.03 | Da_Wrecka | Then what's the netinst disc for? |
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| 14:37.34 | tobago | wols_, no. it's not a asus. network: realtek 8168B |
| 14:37.45 | asg | Da_Wrecka: for bootstrapping a minimal system and then installing via the network afterwards |
| 14:37.59 | wols_ | tobago: that one should be supported by lenny out of the box. but you can try the kmuto installer /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 14:38.12 | wols_ | works the same way as lenny but with newer kernel and more supported hardware |
| 14:38.43 | wols_ | tobago: you can also install debian with what you have and then get a kernel from backports (same version as the kmuto one) |
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| 15:10.31 | tobago | wols_, mmh. i now used the kmuto iso: http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/amd64/lenny-custom-0116.iso but it fails detecting the ethernet card as well. |
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| 15:13.22 | RichiH | what blog software sucks the least? |
| 15:13.49 | RichiH | ideally, it would not be dynamic other than an optional and heavily-guarded comment function |
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| 15:18.04 | Titan8990 | RichiH: wordpress is rather nice. If you need something more flexible with more features, drupal |
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| 15:18.19 | asg | RichiH: ikiwiki is worth a look also |
| 15:18.31 | Titan8990 | RichiH: however, WP will give you 80% of drupal functionality with a lot less work |
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| 15:20.22 | RichiH | Titan8990: to put a positive spin on it, i despise wordpress |
| 15:20.43 | maligor | Drupal is a content management platform... |
| 15:20.50 | maligor | it's so dynamic that it's ridiculous |
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| 15:21.06 | RichiH | yah, ideally i would want pre-rendered html |
| 15:21.20 | RichiH | not quite as painful as debian's WPL, preferably |
| 15:21.32 | asg | RichiH: ikiwiki can do that |
| 15:21.47 | RichiH | asg: looking at it as we speak |
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| 15:23.51 | RichiH | asg: ikiwiki sounds like fun. i might even migrate my own personal wiki to it |
| 15:24.11 | RichiH | also, anagrams are fun |
| 15:24.16 | asg | RichiH: Joey Hess wrote it iirc |
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| 15:26.29 | CQ | hello, what's a good minimal dist for setting up an FTP server? commandline is enough, so I don't need X, Gnome or KDE ... |
| 15:26.45 | Wildy | just use debian businesscard iso |
| 15:27.00 | Wildy | install the standard system then install the ftp daemon you want |
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| 15:27.00 | Titan8990 | CQ: a default debian install.... |
| 15:27.07 | beardy | Yeah, take a guess. |
| 15:27.10 | beardy | !sunday |
| 15:27.10 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 15:29.54 | amz_ | there is some software datalogger for gpsd? |
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| 15:31.11 | scurnoid | hello all :-) |
| 15:31.40 | Da_Wrecka | Huh, GNOME told me my battery is broken. Wasn't expecting that. |
| 15:31.49 | Da_Wrecka | Sadly it wasn't telling me anything I didn't already know. |
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| 15:32.04 | Da_Wrecka | Really wish Dell hadn't put one of the feet on the bloody battery |
| 15:32.10 | amz__ | 189.4.118.155 |
| 15:32.15 | lindi- | amz_: gpxlogger? |
| 15:32.20 | amz__ | there is some software datalogger for gpsd? |
| 15:32.22 | amz__ | oh |
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| 15:33.33 | amz_ | lindi-: where can i download it? |
| 15:33.38 | amz_ | because this is not in debian rep |
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| 15:34.27 | lindi- | amz_: it is in debian |
| 15:34.49 | lindi- | amz_: how did you search? |
| 15:35.03 | amz_ | lenny i have |
| 15:35.06 | amz_ | and dont have it |
| 15:35.27 | Titan8990 | judd: versions gpxlogger |
| 15:35.29 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'gpxlogger' was found. |
| 15:35.34 | lindi- | amz_: lenny has it |
| 15:35.36 | Wildy | amz_, gpxlogger is in the gpsd-clients package afair |
| 15:35.49 | Wildy | tried to apt-get it too but it already was there |
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| 15:36.12 | lindi- | I always wonder why people assume that each binary has its own package :) |
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| 15:43.33 | jeffno | does anybody know how to install a version of testing pinned to a specific date? |
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| 15:44.39 | Titan8990 | jeffno: you mean something no longer in the repository? |
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| 15:45.20 | jeffno | Let's say I wanted a new testing install based from two months ago |
| 15:45.30 | Titan8990 | !snapshots |
| 15:45.30 | dpkg | http://snapshot-dev.debian.org/ (soon to be http://snapshot.debian.org/) is an archive of all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. |
| 15:45.41 | Titan8990 | jeffno: manually fetch it from snapshots |
| 15:45.49 | jeffno | Thanks, I'll check it out |
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| 15:50.13 | rooisto47 | hi everybody, |
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| 15:50.49 | rooisto47 | is gmrun the most lightweight application launcher ? |
| 15:51.26 | amphi | there's also grun |
| 15:52.53 | amphi | which works well, BTW, better (for me) than gmrun, at least last time I tried the latter |
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| 15:59.45 | scurnoid | hi again |
| 16:01.20 | tobago | how to find out if my network card is supported by the installation kernel? |
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| 16:03.42 | Titan8990 | tobago: what is the pciid? |
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| 16:08.22 | rooisto47 | hi there, |
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| 16:08.34 | wad | What file do I touch to tell a debian box where to deliver emails? |
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| 16:09.50 | rooisto47 | did anyone notice the mplayer bug when try to play some video (it says CPU/FPU/RAM bad use) ? |
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| 16:13.28 | Digdilem | wad, by default they're delivered locally. What exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 16:15.44 | Purpleoptic | fair enough |
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| 16:15.54 | wad | I found it: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:16.36 | wad | That lets me tell a box to send emails to a place where they can be delivered. My goal is to make my file server running md send me an email when a drive failure happens. |
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| 16:21.17 | Digdilem | wad, a quick and bodgy way to send a local email elsewhere is to edit /etc/aliases |
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| 16:25.06 | hakr | where is there a list of r\ |
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| 16:25.10 | pzn | Hi. I need to develop a kernel driver for using with debian. If someone is interested, please look at http://pastebin.com/b8Pp2zrY |
| 16:25.13 | hakr | repositories |
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| 16:27.01 | Titan8990 | currently the system uses linux kernel 2.6.20 |
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| 16:27.41 | hakr | is there a list of debian repositories somewhere? |
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| 16:27.46 | hakr | hello? |
| 16:28.07 | amphi | !mirrors |
| 16:28.07 | dpkg | debian mirrors is, like, http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 16:28.21 | dr3mro | hello deianists ... I am an ubuntu user willing to discover debian world , I know debain is the mother of ubuntu but is there any tips here before i get my hand dirty !!! what are the main cons and pros ??? |
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| 16:29.06 | rudi_s | !why debian |
| 16:29.06 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian). As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 16:30.17 | babilen | dr3mro: You also want to read the install guide (/msg dpkg ig) and the debian reference (/msg dpkg reference). I suggest you to try Debian and see for yourself. Do you have network connection during the installation? |
| 16:30.19 | rooisto47 | did anyone notice the mplayer bug when try to play some video (it says CPU/FPU/RAM bad use) ? |
| 16:30.47 | dr3mro | ok ,, so , what is the difference between it and ubuntu ... i googled and found that ubuntu don't do upstream work and has its own versions of packages so bugs are harder to tarck is there other thing s??? |
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| 16:30.55 | babilen | rooisto47: "the mplayer bug" ? Which bug are you referring to? |
| 16:31.03 | dr3mro | babilen, yes |
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| 16:31.34 | amphi | !ubuntu |
| 16:31.34 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 16:31.59 | babilen | dr3mro: I have never used Ubuntu, but Ubuntu seems to automate a couple of things that *you* have/can do yourself in Debian ... |
| 16:32.15 | rooisto47 | babilen, when I try play some videos it usualy bugs in the begin and says that mplayer crashed due to bad use of CPU/FPU/RAM !! |
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| 16:32.41 | dr3mro | babilen, is there a performance difference ??? |
| 16:32.44 | babilen | dr3mro: Just try it - As you have internet connection you can use the netinstall image "/msg dpkg netinstall" |
| 16:32.57 | rooisto47 | for example a see that every time when I try to play one of my .amv videos |
| 16:32.59 | amphi | rooisto47: I've seen that, but not in a long while - where is your mplayer from? and what branch of debian? |
| 16:32.59 | dr3mro | babilen, OK thank you |
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| 16:33.25 | rooisto47 | amphi, testing (multimedia repository ) |
| 16:33.27 | babilen | dr3mro: Performance? Not likely - Ubuntu might have a bunch of overhead installed though (eye candy, etc) |
| 16:33.57 | amphi | rooisto47: on what sort of data? I have the same here, and see no such problem (amd64) |
| 16:34.38 | rooisto47 | amphi, oh me it's i368 and the video is on my hd |
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| 16:34.59 | amphi | rooisto47: what is it? |
| 16:35.10 | dr3mro | babilen, so i read that debian and ubuntu has synced there versions does that mean debian stable will be sharing code with ubuntu LTS.1 like 10.04.1 |
| 16:35.15 | amphi | rooisto47: file whatever will tell you, if you don't know |
| 16:35.24 | rooisto47 | amphi, one min |
| 16:35.36 | babilen | dr3mro: Ubuntu take Debian unstable once in a while, change a bunch of things and release that |
| 16:36.27 | rooisto47 | ****.amv : RIFF (little-endian) data |
| 16:36.30 | rooisto47 | amphi, |
| 16:36.54 | amphi | rooisto47: just audio? |
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| 16:37.37 | rooisto47 | no it's a video clip, but I had the problem with other videos that I don't remember the names |
| 16:37.46 | rooisto47 | those |
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| 16:38.14 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 16:38.55 | rooisto47 | ;) |
| 16:39.03 | amphi | rooisto47: file should say more than 'RIFF data' I think, in that case |
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| 16:41.28 | rooisto47 | amphi, well that's all what I have printed here :! |
| 16:42.02 | amphi | odd |
| 16:42.17 | rooisto47 | amphi, and what was the cause of the bug in your case ? |
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| 16:44.08 | amphi | rooisto47: I forget utterly, I'm afraid |
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| 16:57.17 | nvz | how the heck to I record the PCM audio. or otherwise the audio coming out of my speakers right now? |
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| 16:58.05 | kdasdasf | hi i want sed to replace /all/ occurencies of a word in a line not just the first |
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| 16:58.23 | rooisto47 | sya |
| 16:59.21 | kdasdasf | currently i'm using sed "s/x/y/" from_file > to_file |
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| 17:00.28 | kdasdasf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:01.08 | tobago | Titan8990, my card is a realtek 8168B |
| 17:01.20 | nvz | If someone could tell me how I can get the audio coming out of my speakers right now save, it would be appreciatec |
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| 17:06.19 | capitan | kdasdasf, yes, /g :) |
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| 17:07.09 | kdasdasf | capitan, doesn't /g meen ready? like the same thing you get when you don't match .*? but .* |
| 17:07.26 | Titan8990 | !rtl8168 |
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| 17:08.14 | capitan | kdasdasf, i'm not sure what you mean by "ready"... but it will replace all occurrences on a line, instead of just the first |
| 17:08.31 | kdasdasf | *greedy |
| 17:08.32 | kdasdasf | not ready |
| 17:08.37 | capitan | oh... |
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| 17:08.50 | capitan | lol... i still don't get it :) |
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| 17:11.18 | kdasdasf | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.24 | tobago | Titan8990, what do you wanted to try? |
| 17:11.25 | capitan | :) |
| 17:12.03 | capitan | kdasdasf, i seem to remember a regex info page... with all kinds of goodies... but can't find it anymore :( |
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| 17:14.15 | nkuttler | there's #regex as well |
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| 17:17.13 | Titan8990 | judd: pciid 10ec:8168 |
| 17:17.13 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
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| 17:17.13 | Titan8990 | tobago: looks like it should |
| 17:17.36 | Da_Wrecka | Oh dammit, the stupid Ext2 IFS thingy won't let me access the /home partition in Windows anyway. "The disk in drive D: is not formatted", yes it fucking is |
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| 17:18.31 | tobago | Titan8990, should work in kernel 2.6.25? but current lenny kernel is 2.6.32, isn't it? |
| 17:19.09 | tobago | i mean does it also mean, if it worked in 2.6.25, it works in current lenny either? |
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| 17:22.45 | tobago | Titan8990, and why does the installer always fails when trying to detect the network card, no matter which distro i used (netinst, kmuto...) |
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| 17:26.19 | Guest27621 | hi, i use dist-upgrade on debian testing ,after download i have this error before :xz-utils (4.999.9beta+20100212-2) unstable; urgency=low , any idea? |
| 17:26.50 | babilen | Guest27621: Please paste the complete error you get to http://paste.debian.net |
| 17:27.06 | Da_Wrecka | Joy. Apparently Ext2IFS can only access ExtX volumes with an inode size of exactly 128 bytes |
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| 17:27.40 | lindi- | Da_Wrecka: is that different from ext2fsd? |
| 17:27.52 | Da_Wrecka | Ext2IFS is the driver for Windows |
| 17:27.58 | Z4ndX | Does any know if you can mount an encrypted drives with NFS ? .. dm-crypt |
| 17:28.11 | Guest27621 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/67428/plain/67428 |
| 17:28.13 | Da_Wrecka | Idea was that I'd install Windows, install Debian, and use Ext2IFS to let Windows access the ext3 /home volume |
| 17:28.18 | pipeline | Z4ndX: if you shared an encrypted drive with NFS, it would still be plaintext across the wire. |
| 17:28.33 | Da_Wrecka | But the Debian installer formatted the /home partition with a 256-byte inode |
| 17:28.35 | pipeline | Z4ndX: the *block device* itself is encrypted. Not the filesystem. |
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| 17:29.08 | babilen | Guest27621: That is not an error |
| 17:29.16 | babilen | ,versions xz-utils |
| 17:29.19 | judd | xz-utils -- sid: 4.999.9beta+20100307-1; squeeze: 4.999.9beta+20100307-1 |
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| 17:29.20 | lindi- | Da_Wrecka: there is only one driver? |
| 17:29.44 | Da_Wrecka | lindi-: I've only found the one thusfar, gonna see if Google helps |
| 17:29.48 | babilen | Guest27621: That is just apt-listchanges informing you of important changes in a package |
| 17:29.48 | Z4ndX | pipeline: Hmm.. Iv shared a drive using NFS and i was working just fine. Then i encrypted it and now i cant mount it using NFS ?1 |
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| 17:30.10 | lindi- | Da_Wrecka: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ |
| 17:30.40 | Guest27621 | babilen: what i do for continue?! |
| 17:31.07 | Da_Wrecka | Oh, ta lindi |
| 17:31.59 | babilen | Guest27621: Hmm, i guess 'q' might work :-\ |
| 17:32.17 | Guest27621 | babilen: thx:) |
| 17:32.23 | babilen | Guest27621: You are welcome :) |
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| 17:37.27 | tpocra | When I boot up and start my system then gdm loads but nothing shows on either of my displays, htye get no signal. |
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| 18:15.09 | mvk | i would like to use a newer kernel with my debian install (on my samsung nc10), should i got unstable? |
| 18:15.17 | valdyn | mvk: no |
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| 18:16.16 | mvk | valdyn: i know how to compile kernels (and a tiny little bit about hacking them) |
| 18:16.28 | valdyn | mvk: you dont need to compile kernels |
| 18:16.36 | mvk | but can i download a newer kernel as a debian package, or do i really have to do it all myself |
| 18:16.45 | valdyn | !backports.org |
| 18:16.45 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
| 18:16.48 | mvk | valdyn: interesting, tell me more! :) |
| 18:16.49 | valdyn | mvk: ^^ |
| 18:17.41 | mvk | ok, and after adding that repos - i can install a new kernel from it? |
| 18:17.49 | valdyn | mvk: yes |
| 18:17.59 | mvk | what latest? |
| 18:18.05 | valdyn | 2.6.32 at least |
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| 18:19.33 | mvk | awsome, and ur fast response also is :) |
| 18:19.50 | valdyn | mvk: welcome |
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| 18:23.18 | Zap-W | Hi |
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| 18:27.08 | redax | hi, happy easter |
| 18:27.22 | mroe | happy oestre |
| 18:28.28 | redax | not really debian specific, but could you help me with regexp? I'd like to split a quote-printable string, like every element would be separate ( every =?charset?q?blabla?= ) |
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| 18:34.01 | jonaskoe1ker | Hi all. When I run apt-get, I'm told that console kit is unhappy about the version of udev I have right now and want to replace it. That's fine, except the udev installer says something to the effect of "not fit for your current kernel version". I'd like to apt-get install a new kernel, but then I'm told udev is of the wrong version, so I'm kinda' caught. How do I escape this? :) |
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| 18:36.43 | babilen | jonaskoe1ker: install the new kernel manually, reboot, upgrade udev and continue |
| 18:36.48 | babilen | jonaskoe1ker: also: use aptitude |
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| 18:37.23 | babilen | jonaskoe1ker: I assume that you are upgrading from lenny to squeeze here - are you sure that you want to run testing which is essentially unsupported? |
| 18:37.58 | jonaskoe1ker | I want testing |
| 18:38.07 | jonaskoe1ker | I think I am running testing |
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| 18:38.23 | babilen | jonaskoe1ker: Well, i told you what to do |
| 18:38.29 | jonaskoe1ker | my /etc/debian_version says squeeze/sid :) |
| 18:38.33 | jonaskoe1ker | sure |
| 18:38.42 | babilen | have fun :) |
| 18:39.00 | jonaskoe1ker | I think I'm'na keep udev at its current version, upgrade some other stuff, then install a new kernel in aptitude, then upgrade udev |
| 18:39.03 | jonaskoe1ker | thanks :) |
| 18:39.27 | jonaskoe1ker | I'll come crying to you if it breaks and ask you to purchase all the individual bits, 'k? ;-) |
| 18:39.45 | jonaskoe1ker | or do I get to keep them myself? |
| 18:39.46 | babilen | just install the kernel manually and boot it |
| 18:39.51 | babilen | !pieces |
| 18:39.51 | dpkg | hmm... pieces is ( The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! ) |
| 18:39.56 | babilen | ;) |
| 18:40.21 | jonaskoe1ker | I thought it was "BOTH" ;) |
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| 18:44.45 | rubin110 | Hi there, any reason why it would be bad to put my ssh pub key somewhere on the web, publicly accessible? |
| 18:44.52 | jonaskoe1ker | how do I make aptitude "forget" forget all marked-for-{installation,upgrade,...}? |
| 18:45.21 | jonaskoe1ker | rubin110: RSA is only secure _in practice_, so in theory a bad guy could download it and factor your key |
| 18:45.35 | jonaskoe1ker | (that is, in the curses-gui) |
| 18:46.18 | rubin110 | Ok. |
| 18:46.37 | rubin110 | But other then that, no reason? |
| 18:47.36 | jonaskoe1ker | none that I can think of |
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| 18:48.02 | Lazulila1her | hey guys, any idea when Debian will officially support ext4? |
| 18:48.24 | jonaskoe1ker | No. Who makes that decision? |
| 18:48.37 | rubin110 | Lazulila1her: I think it's selected default in the squeeze installer. |
| 18:48.45 | mvk | valdyn: when i try to install 2.6.32, i get an error that it cannot find the right linux-kbuild package |
| 18:48.53 | dutchfish | jonaskoe1ker: aptitude keep-all |
| 18:49.10 | mvk | i do see a kbuild version for 2.6.30 but not 2.6.32, what should i do? |
| 18:49.13 | jonaskoe1ker | in the (curses) gui? |
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| 18:49.54 | kdasdasf | hi how can i find out how owns a specific file? |
| 18:50.07 | kdasdasf | ls -la isn't sufficient since i need to parse the value with a script |
| 18:50.15 | jonaskoe1ker | kdasdasf: stat? |
| 18:50.49 | kdasdasf | jonaskoe1ker thx :-) |
| 18:51.05 | jonaskoe1ker | kdasdasf: -c '%u' |
| 18:51.07 | jonaskoe1ker | yw :) |
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| 18:51.36 | kdasdasf | %U is what i need |
| 18:51.39 | kdasdasf | thx |
| 18:51.40 | jonaskoe1ker | kdasdasf: isn't "ls -la" fine though, with a little help from `cut' and friends? |
| 18:51.44 | jonaskoe1ker | kdasdasf: just in theory... |
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| 18:52.08 | kdasdasf | yes but i thought there has to be a nicer way |
| 18:52.21 | jonaskoe1ker | and indeed there is :) |
| 18:52.22 | kdasdasf | and e'vola there is :-D |
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| 18:52.28 | jonaskoe1ker | happy hacking :) |
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| 18:53.33 | RaphaD | hey |
| 18:56.07 | RaphaD | personne qui parle ici? |
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| 18:57.18 | babilen | !fr |
| 18:57.19 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 19:01.26 | mvk | i would like to install a kernel from backports.org |
| 19:01.48 | mvk | but if i select linux-image-2.6.32, i get an error that it cannot find kbuild-2.6.32 |
| 19:02.17 | babilen | mvk: How do you install it? "aptitude -t lenny-backports install <yadda>" ? |
| 19:02.25 | mvk | synaptics |
| 19:02.40 | babilen | sorry, i have absolutely no idea how synaptics works .. |
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| 19:03.29 | mvk | "depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.32 but it is not installable" |
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| 19:06.04 | mvk | seems like thats only available trough testing |
| 19:06.13 | mvk | so im grabbing 2.6.30 now |
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| 19:09.24 | Noble | If I only want a minimal install of debian, which CD/DVD should I download? |
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| 19:09.51 | isfranc | hello |
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| 19:13.03 | comradekingu | Noble: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 19:13.08 | devious | Noble: netinst. |
| 19:13.13 | devious | Heh. |
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| 19:14.41 | babilen | Noble: Or the business card |
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| 19:45.52 | Da_Wrecka | So much for Ext2FSD. I need write access, but Ext2FSD is only giving me read-only |
| 19:46.40 | Da_Wrecka | wait, nevermind |
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| 19:49.44 | aguitel | how install google earth in squeeze ? |
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| 19:52.11 | m3tti | aptitude search google |
| 19:52.13 | babilen | aguitel: TIP: Search for "googleearth" |
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| 19:52.53 | m3tti | aguitel, if you enabled the contrib sources or maybe also the nonfree sources you should find it in your apt |
| 19:53.24 | aguitel | m3tti, i try |
| 19:53.41 | m3tti | let us know if it works |
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| 19:55.10 | rooisto47 | is there a lightweight .pps .ppt (power point) viewer ? |
| 19:55.33 | generic | so debian doesnt have unicode support on iceweasel? |
| 19:55.49 | generic | i basically did a noraml install on this |
| 19:56.03 | generic | is there some easy trick to enable unicode support? |
| 19:56.36 | generic | as to where i wont have to jump through a bunch of hoops and take alot of time to get this to work>? |
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| 19:57.06 | Titan8990 | generic: usually you have unicode by default. Not sure about how it works in iceweasel, but what does echo $LANG say? |
| 19:57.39 | valdyn | generic: why would you think that iceweasel has no unicode support? |
| 19:57.51 | MarkB1 | anyone having show-stopper problems with rdesktop on 64-bit debian squeeze? I have used rd on older Debian (Lenny, earlier) w/o issue... checked the usual suspects (telnet $host 3389, etc) |
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| 19:59.15 | generic | Titan8990: en_US.UTF-8 |
| 19:59.42 | generic | for sme reason japanese characters are just squares with numbers in them |
| 20:00.00 | valdyn | generic: you need to install japanese font(s) |
| 20:00.24 | Titan8990 | valdyn: does that require generatng japanese locales? |
| 20:00.29 | valdyn | Titan8990: no |
| 20:00.41 | Titan8990 | locales is purely shell? |
| 20:01.00 | valdyn | Titan8990: locales to to translate application messages |
| 20:01.08 | valdyn | Titan8990: locales is to translate application messages |
| 20:01.51 | valdyn | Titan8990: or locales is the gnu api and libraries to translate applications |
| 20:02.12 | generic | debian does not have japanese fonts by defualt. |
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| 20:02.30 | nsadmin | tutu? |
| 20:02.38 | valdyn | generic: 99% of fonts in debian are not installed by default |
| 20:02.45 | Titan8990 | , info xfonts-intl-japanese |
| 20:02.46 | judd | xfonts-intl-japanese (x11, optional): International fonts for X -- Japanese. Version: 1.2.1-6; Size: 906.0k; Installed: 1152k |
| 20:02.51 | valdyn | not those |
| 20:02.56 | valdyn | im not sure those would work |
| 20:03.01 | valdyn | ttf-foo |
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| 20:03.53 | valdyn | generic: debian has hundreds of megabytes in fonts, *sure* they arent installed by default |
| 20:04.29 | generic | judd: thx that did it |
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| 20:04.42 | valdyn | neat, so those do work |
| 20:04.53 | Titan8990 | generic: judd is a bot |
| 20:04.57 | Titan8990 | !judd |
| 20:04.57 | dpkg | [judd] a window into the Ultimate Debian Database (ask me about <udd>). Judd can look up package, PCI-Id and kernel config information. To get a list of commands, "/msg judd list Judd" "/msg judd list Piccy" and for usage information, "/msg judd help commandname". See also <source judd> <judd-packages> <judd-hardware>. |
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| 20:05.13 | valdyn | generic: just for your reference run "apt-cache search ttf japanese" |
| 20:05.14 | generic | ah well |
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| 20:05.23 | generic | valdyn: it wasnt ttf fonts |
| 20:05.24 | nsadmin | judd for udd? |
| 20:05.34 | generic | i installed those and it did nothing |
| 20:05.41 | generic | the xfonts packages fixed it |
| 20:05.48 | generic | thx guys |
| 20:05.50 | babilen | generic: there are also xfonts-something-intl |
| 20:06.05 | generic | babilen: scrool up that was already discused |
| 20:06.09 | Titan8990 | babilen: thats what he installed, based on my total guess, hehe |
| 20:06.09 | generic | ^scroll |
| 20:06.54 | babilen | generic: yes - concurrent behaviour of humans is hard to debug |
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| 20:10.09 | nsadmin | what's piccy? |
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| 20:13.02 | babilen | nsadmin: context? |
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| 20:14.43 | nsadmin | babilen: /msg judd list piccy |
| 20:14.49 | nsadmin | which I did |
| 20:15.03 | nsadmin | list of commands of which pciid is one |
| 20:16.09 | nsadmin | was piccy the nick of a bot that had those commands before judd? |
| 20:16.10 | abrotman | i think it's a bot module .. |
| 20:16.39 | abrotman | or ask themill when he gets back |
| 20:16.44 | abrotman | or stew if you see him |
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| 20:17.09 | nsadmin | they're probably holidayin |
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| 20:22.00 | yagoo | anyone knows if a normal user is supposed to be a member of pulse or pulse-rt group?( |
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| 20:22.16 | valdyn | yagoo: in which debian release? |
| 20:22.23 | nsadmin | why would you want to be? |
| 20:22.24 | yagoo | valdyn, lenny |
| 20:22.37 | yagoo | nsadmin, because i get denied access |
| 20:22.43 | nsadmin | to? |
| 20:22.52 | valdyn | yagoo: pulse-rt only if you need realtime sound |
| 20:23.04 | valdyn | yagoo: i mean realtime task priority for your pulseaudio |
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| 20:23.19 | yagoo | nsadmin, aplay -Dpulse wavefile.wav (*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused) |
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| 20:23.33 | yagoo | ok, will try valdyn |
| 20:23.39 | valdyn | yagoo: oh, that error means something else |
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| 20:23.57 | nsadmin | hmm. connection refused usually means soemthing's not running or you're blocked at a router |
| 20:24.01 | valdyn | yagoo: 1) is pulseaudio even running? 2) if you run it as root ( as system service ), then you need to be in the pulse group iirc |
| 20:24.19 | valdyn | yagoo: pulse-rt is for running your *own* user pa with rt priority |
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| 20:24.57 | valdyn | yagoo: by default pa will just not be running i believe |
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| 20:31.58 | valdyn | nsadmin: thats all local |
| 20:32.07 | valdyn | nsadmin: and a socket |
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| 20:40.35 | yagoo | valdyn, i believe its the pulseaudio plugin for alsa i'm trying to get working |
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| 20:46.51 | Craighton|Win7 | alright so I've had my Debian server setup to point to one domain name with a reverse dns, I have the reverse DNS part confugured but when I change the host name to the new domain and restart it doesn't work. aNy help? |
| 20:48.04 | pipeline | Craighton|Win7: what doesn't work ? |
| 20:48.27 | Craighton|Win7 | the hostname for the server doesn't want to switch |
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| 20:49.31 | abrotman | how are you changing it ? |
| 20:50.00 | Craighton|Win7 | hostname <new-hostname> |
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| 20:50.26 | abrotman | Craighton|Win7: try /etc/hostname |
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| 20:50.38 | seth1244 | I killed my (wifi) internet trying to configure dhcp3 and firestarter. I don't know which killed the internet so I removed both packages, but still no internet. What can I do? |
| 20:50.39 | yagoo | stupid question, just to be sure, so do i add this line to /etc/pulse/default.pa? , i'm gonna have to do a reboot |
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| 20:51.09 | Craighton|Win7 | abrotman in there is shows the new hostnae |
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| 20:51.55 | abrotman | Craighton|Win7: and if you type 'hostname' .. what does it show ? |
| 20:52.06 | Craighton|Win7 | the new hostname that I want |
| 20:52.08 | jonaskoe1ker | seth1244: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces for starters. Do you use silly things like network manager? How do you obtain IP addresses? Do you get one? |
| 20:52.38 | jonaskoe1ker | seth1244: how do you observe that you have no internet? |
| 20:53.24 | buntfalke | How to find a command which accepts the '-names' parameter? |
| 20:53.54 | jonaskoe1ker | buntfalke: that sounds weird, why do you want that? |
| 20:54.30 | buntfalke | I heard a reference to the option, and wonder what it's about. |
| 20:54.43 | buntfalke | is there a way to search all manpage synposis sections or so? |
| 20:54.44 | buntfalke | hmm |
| 20:55.01 | jonaskoe1ker | write a for-loop to render all man pages with `cat' as the pager, start grepping |
| 20:55.43 | abrotman | Craighton|Win7: so where does the new hostname not work ? |
| 20:56.02 | Craighton|Win7 | when connecting it to IRC |
| 20:56.17 | Craighton|Win7 | and on server IP whois |
| 20:56.24 | abrotman | buntfalke: man -k .. kind of searches |
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| 20:56.43 | abrotman | and apropos does another kind of searching i guess |
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| 20:57.03 | abrotman | not sure if either have an option for synopsis |
| 20:57.08 | seth1244 | jonaskoe1ker: Using network manager. |
| 20:57.25 | abrotman | jonaskoe1ker: though he could just grep -R, but he wouldn't be limiting to the SYNOPSIS |
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| 20:58.19 | jonaskoe1ker | seth1244: hm. Does /etc/network/interfaces mention any of your net cards? |
| 20:59.24 | buntfalke | only finds perl because of 'pseudo-namespaces' :-) well, i'll grep through them, let's see. |
| 20:59.25 | buntfalke | thanks guys |
| 21:02.46 | jonaskoe1ker | buntfalke: you're welcome :) |
| 21:03.13 | seth1244 | jonaskoe1ker: Nevermind - I set eth0 (wired) to have the same address as my wireless router. |
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| 21:04.42 | CQ | hello, how do I migrate a stable system to testing? just replace the sources and dist-upgrade ? |
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| 21:05.51 | abrotman | !tell CQ about lenny->squeeze |
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| 21:07.28 | jonaskoe1ker | !tell jonaskoe1ker about lenny->squeeze |
| 21:08.46 | abrotman | !tell jonaskoe1ker about selftell |
| 21:08.57 | seth1244 | !tell seth1244 about lenny->squeeze |
| 21:09.07 | cristi8 | !tell cristi8 about selftell |
| 21:09.35 | jonaskoe1ker | abrotman: I figured, I had just forgot the name of the bot |
| 21:09.48 | jonaskoe1ker | abrotman: and I don't think I disturbed anyone :) |
| 21:09.51 | CQ | abrotman: tried that, the kernel doesn't want to load... seems it's not finding a bunch of symbols... |
| 21:10.08 | abrotman | jonaskoe1ker: you'd be surprised how many people keep doing that |
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| 21:10.37 | cristi8 | :) i just learned about selftell myself |
| 21:10.43 | jonaskoe1ker | abrotman: actually, having been at home and helping my mom with the computer, no I wouldn't >D |
| 21:11.01 | CQ | abrotman: that, and udev refuses to install without me forcing it... |
| 21:11.01 | nsadmin | valdyn so that would mean the socket exists but nothing is listening for connections to accept? |
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| 21:11.46 | aaronorosen2 | Hello, I'm trying to setup an ethernet bridge and when i create it i get the following message. Does anyone have any idea whats going wrong? |
| 21:11.46 | aaronorosen2 | br0: dropping NETIF_F_UFO since no NETIF_F_HW_CSUM feature |
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| 21:12.07 | seth1244 | !selftell seth1244 about lenny->squeeze |
| 21:12.28 | babilen | !tell seth1244 -about selftell |
| 21:12.33 | azeem | seth1244: please /msg the bot |
| 21:12.33 | babilen | seth1244: hehe :) |
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| 21:14.36 | nsadmin | aaronorosen2 that sounds like part of a device negotiation |
| 21:14.57 | tobago | booting with grub (with wrong parameters); how to find out the correct boot partition and where the kernel is located? |
| 21:15.22 | aaronorosen2 | nsadmin: I'm trying to setup openvpn with bridging and when i run their bridge_start script i get that. >_< |
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| 21:16.06 | aaronorosen2 | I've configured the script correctly i think its a problem in the bridged_util package reading bug reports but no solved solution that i've seen |
| 21:16.24 | CQ | aaronorosen2: check in #openvpn ... they're pretty knowlegeable about that kind of stuff |
| 21:16.25 | nsadmin | "I am a driver, and as part of my functionality I can turn a wheel. Do you have a wheel?" "NO, wheels suck and they're yesterday's petunias!" "OK, since you don't have a wheel, I'll disable the part of me that turns wheels." |
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| 21:17.27 | khengis | hi |
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| 21:18.48 | nsadmin | aaronorosen2 at least... that's what it sounds like to me |
| 21:19.09 | nsadmin | have you actually tried anything you might want to use the bridge for? |
| 21:19.36 | nsadmin | or did you think, "no wheels... NO WHEELS!!!"? |
| 21:19.58 | nsadmin | and get stuck? |
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| 21:24.18 | cristi8 | this is not debian-related, but anyway: i was running a "make", and after some time the power went off. is there a way to see if it was completed before the power failure? |
| 21:24.37 | simonrvn | run it again, it'll 'know' |
| 21:25.14 | aaronorosen2 | After you create a bridge do you have to do something so that your computer uses it? |
| 21:25.16 | simonrvn | if it didn't complete it'll ontinue where it left off. this is if you weren't teeing it to a log file. |
| 21:25.25 | simonrvn | cont* |
| 21:25.41 | cristi8 | aaah, started compiling at some point.. is it safe to let it continue? or should i make clean? |
| 21:25.53 | lindi- | cristi8: that depends completely on the program |
| 21:26.10 | lindi- | cristi8: generally I would not depend on it for anything important |
| 21:26.15 | simonrvn | should be ok, most of the time. if it was a kernel, i'd clean |
| 21:26.26 | simonrvn | yeh, what lindi- said |
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| 21:26.50 | cristi8 | no kernel, but important... clean it is :D |
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| 21:27.08 | simonrvn | programs i usually don't care, i haven't seen that make much of a ddiference if any |
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| 21:27.27 | simonrvn | differ* wtf is up with my typing ... |
| 21:27.44 | lindi- | if you do things like "foo: bar\n\tquux > foo" it can happen that foo is created but is incomplete |
| 21:28.08 | lindi- | and when make sees that foo exists and is newer than bar it will not rerun quux |
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| 21:28.46 | cristi8 | simonrvn: smoked smth? :D i usually type funny then |
| 21:29.01 | simonrvn | i don't smoke anything except tobacco |
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| 21:29.43 | cristi8 | lindi-: oh, i see.. |
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| 21:29.59 | simonrvn | i've been lucky then ;) |
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| 21:54.39 | rooisto47 | what's the best CMS . |
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| 21:56.19 | Gokee2 | Is there any way to get rid of a zombie init is not reaping? There are messages in dmsg about init trying to wait for the process? The program komodo died badly when I suspended the computer killing the sshfs link to the computer that holds the files I was working on. |
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| 21:57.04 | Gokee2 | Dmesg output http://pastebin.com/8yA1SKZm |
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| 21:57.43 | abrotman | does it have a parent to kill ? |
| 21:57.44 | abrotman | !elive |
| 21:57.44 | dpkg | Elive (Enlightenment live CD) is a desktop distribution <based on Debian>, featuring the <Enlightenment> window manager. It is not Debian and thus not supported in #debian. http://www.elivecd.org/ #elive on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:57.58 | not_generic | so the debian64 netinstall cd is not detecting my sata hdd during the instal |
| 21:58.00 | Gokee2 | abrotman, It has init.... |
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| 21:58.16 | abrotman | not_generic: which installer? which controller? |
| 21:58.16 | not_generic | any sugestions? |
| 21:58.44 | not_generic | abrotman, the (stablE) 64bit netinstaller? |
| 21:58.51 | not_generic | and i dont know which controller |
| 21:59.30 | not_generic | oh crap... i went to check |
| 21:59.39 | not_generic | and the cable was loose.... |
| 21:59.49 | not_generic | I was never here! D: |
| 21:59.57 | abrotman | lenny? |
| 22:00.02 | abrotman | cable loose?! |
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| 22:04.08 | dbuduru | I am trying to use a wireless usb adapter to connect to my wireless router, it works only when I turn off the encryption. |
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| 22:04.52 | dbuduru | I set up some parameters in a dat fie which I copied to /etc/Wireless/RTXXX/ directory.. and that dat file has the password for the router.. |
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| 22:14.50 | macrobat_ | stu pid |
| 22:15.04 | macrobat_ | bai xchat |
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| 22:36.29 | bjoernb | happy easter |
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| 22:37.11 | bjoernb | is anyone using miro 3.0.1? i just installed it, but do not have sound when playing audio or video. though i have sound on my system |
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| 22:40.21 | nvz | you'tr using miro 3.0.1, whatever that is.. I like easy questions that are pointless :-P |
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| 22:41.15 | bjoernb | nvz: miro is a podcatcher application. you can download media files an consume them with miro. |
| 22:41.22 | careta | hey guys |
| 22:41.40 | nvz | haha |
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| 22:41.53 | careta | i have a self compiled kernel and I want to make some changes to one of the modules in the tree. is there a way I can only compile the relevant module and insert it directly? |
| 22:41.55 | {-_-\\\ | hi |
| 22:42.07 | {-_-\\\ | i have a serious problem |
| 22:42.10 | nvz | {-_-\\\: seriously? |
| 22:42.14 | {-_-\\\ | i did cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ptmx |
| 22:42.20 | {-_-\\\ | and after that stdout isn't working |
| 22:42.23 | {-_-\\\ | so nobody can login |
| 22:42.30 | {-_-\\\ | and no commands can execute |
| 22:42.38 | {-_-\\\ | only if i run them like <command> > /dev/stderr |
| 22:42.41 | {-_-\\\ | then it works |
| 22:42.45 | {-_-\\\ | so, how can i fix that |
| 22:43.00 | {-_-\\\ | i don't have root priveleges there |
| 22:43.07 | {-_-\\\ | is there a way to fix stdout? |
| 22:43.49 | willmore | Is there a driver in lenny for the Ralink rt2860? I'm not seeing it in the /lib/modules directory for my kernel. The old sid directions to build it from rt2860-source don't work anymore. Hints? |
| 22:44.02 | abrotman | {-_-\\\: reboot |
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| 22:44.30 | {-_-\\\ | abrotman: can't |
| 22:44.33 | {-_-\\\ | that is not my server |
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| 22:44.58 | _KaszpiR_ | regenerate /dev/ptmx ? |
| 22:45.10 | bjoernb | how do i get sound in miro working? |
| 22:45.26 | {-_-\\\ | _KaszpiR_: how? |
| 22:45.27 | yagoo | {-_-\\\, turn off the computer and stop bothering me |
| 22:45.37 | {-_-\\\ | yagoo: this isn't my computer |
| 22:45.44 | {-_-\\\ | i just have non-root shell there |
| 22:45.45 | abrotman | so have the owner ask here |
| 22:45.49 | {-_-\\\ | he isn't online |
| 22:46.06 | {-_-\\\ | _KaszpiR_: how can i regenerate it? |
| 22:46.13 | abrotman | {-_-\\\: if you don't have the root passwd, you won't be able to fix it |
| 22:46.18 | _KaszpiR_ | man mknod |
| 22:46.27 | azeem | _KaszpiR_: as non-root? |
| 22:46.31 | _KaszpiR_ | but whohout root/sudo its not possible |
| 22:46.32 | {-_-\\\ | yeap |
| 22:46.42 | {-_-\\\ | but address of the node haven't changed |
| 22:46.47 | {-_-\\\ | no point to assign it the same value |
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| 22:46.56 | {-_-\\\ | something inside is spoiled |
| 22:47.00 | abrotman | {-_-\\\: what does 'uname -r' say ? |
| 22:47.15 | {-_-\\\ | 2.6.32.8-vs2.3.0.36.29.1 |
| 22:47.42 | abrotman | {-_-\\\: you're going ot have to wait for the owner, you cannot fix this (and you shouldn't have been able to crap on that file TBH) |
| 22:47.44 | {-_-\\\ | i can write access to /dev/ptmx |
| 22:47.54 | {-_-\\\ | have * |
| 22:47.59 | {-_-\\\ | so maybe i can write something there? |
| 22:48.56 | _KaszpiR_ | trande that you could cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ptmx and noone can login |
| 22:49.07 | _KaszpiR_ | *strange |
| 22:49.20 | {-_-\\\ | well, after that /dev/stdout stopped working |
| 22:49.34 | {-_-\\\ | maninthemiddle@przemox1:~/lab2/samples$ id |
| 22:49.37 | {-_-\\\ | id: write error: Bad file descriptor |
| 22:49.39 | {-_-\\\ | maninthemiddle@przemox1:~/lab2/samples$ id > /dev/stderr |
| 22:49.41 | {-_-\\\ | uid=1011 gid=1011 groups=1011 |
| 22:50.04 | {-_-\\\ | and i think due to stdout failure nobody can login anymore |
| 22:50.16 | {-_-\\\ | sshd needs stdout i think |
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| 22:50.25 | _KaszpiR_ | bash rather |
| 22:50.32 | {-_-\\\ | maybe |
| 22:50.39 | {-_-\\\ | hmm, no |
| 22:50.46 | {-_-\\\ | when i try to login i just get hanging ssh |
| 22:50.55 | {-_-\\\ | it even doesn't ask for password |
| 22:51.02 | _KaszpiR_ | ah |
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| 22:51.10 | _KaszpiR_ | gratz, then |
| 22:51.12 | _KaszpiR_ | you failed. |
| 22:51.13 | {-_-\\\ | there is something serious going on |
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| 22:51.25 | abrotman | call the admin, you can't fix this |
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| 22:51.29 | {-_-\\\ | ;/ |
| 22:51.36 | {-_-\\\ | admin will kill me lol |
| 22:51.51 | abrotman | oh well, better than continuing to have a broken machine |
| 22:51.59 | {-_-\\\ | not better |
| 22:52.06 | {-_-\\\ | my bruteforce script are still working |
| 22:52.14 | {-_-\\\ | they are nohuped and write into files |
| 22:52.19 | Rapsodius | hello, which is the package responsible for printing the debian disclaimer on the console logins? |
| 22:52.37 | _KaszpiR_ | lol |
| 22:52.52 | {-_-\\\ | hmm this is even a good thing |
| 22:52.53 | abrotman | Rapsodius: /etc/motd |
| 22:52.55 | _KaszpiR_ | i bet the adming gonna plow the field with your face |
| 22:53.08 | {-_-\\\ | well, now admin can't login too |
| 22:53.13 | {-_-\\\ | so my scripts are safe |
| 22:53.15 | {-_-\\\ | lol |
| 22:53.20 | _KaszpiR_ | susprised? |
| 22:53.22 | _KaszpiR_ | rather not |
| 22:53.35 | _KaszpiR_ | i bet its gonna be hard reset |
| 22:53.41 | _KaszpiR_ | and cheking logs |
| 22:53.50 | _KaszpiR_ | and tehn they will knock to your doors ;) |
| 22:54.07 | {-_-\\\ | im on the other side of the earth lol |
| 22:55.18 | bjoernb | bye |
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| 22:55.32 | Rapsodius | abrotman: and what is the package that modifies it? dpkg -S shows no result, but my motd has changed |
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| 22:56.09 | azeem | has changed how? |
| 22:56.15 | abrotman | Rapsodius: if you look at the init scripts, it gets copied from /var/run/motd |
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| 22:57.42 | Rapsodius | where are those init scripts? ima bit noob with that |
| 22:57.57 | {-_-\\\ | /etc/rc.d/init.d/* |
| 22:58.04 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/ |
| 22:58.39 | Rapsodius | abrotman wins, rc.d doesn't exist under /etc |
| 22:58.46 | Rapsodius | <grin> |
| 22:58.49 | abrotman | duh .. |
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| 23:01.25 | valdyn | nsadmin: its a custom message by pa instead of the usual standard networking message, so i cant tell |
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| 23:04.42 | nsadmin | oh, so the custom message could have the string "connection refused" but the situation wouldn't necessarily have the usual semantics represented by the usual meaning of the term |
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| 23:16.52 | Dreakon | Hello peoples. |
| 23:17.25 | Dreakon | I'm quite new to Debian. :( I'm trying to get either Empathy or Pidgin to work correctly and connect me to AIM. |
| 23:18.23 | Dreakon | Pidgin gives me a "you have disconnected and connected too many times" error, even if it's my first attempt... and Empathy apparently just doesn't support AIM lol. Even after I installed the telepathy-haze package. |
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| 23:26.52 | warpzero | is there a tool which automates building dependencies for apt-get -b source |
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| 23:27.15 | warpzero | or installing them |
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| 23:31.09 | warpzero | is there a tool which automates building/installing dependencies for apt-get -b source |
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| 23:37.30 | dbb | I have a 64bit lenny, and am looking for retty... it appears it exists only for 32bit? what to do |
| 23:37.49 | dbb | install it with some 32bit override and hope? |
| 23:37.56 | dbb | not sure how this works |
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| 23:40.26 | lindi- | dbb: hmm |
| 23:40.56 | Rapsodius | how do I get rid of those pesky acpid debug messages saying 'client connected from... ' |
| 23:41.18 | lindi- | dbb: i wrote something similar in 2004 as a shell script |
| 23:42.17 | Rapsodius | theyĆ're anoying and appear in whatever tty i'm using |
| 23:43.00 | lindi- | dbb: http://iki.fi/lindi/screenify |
| 23:43.07 | lindi- | dbb: i didn't know about retty |
| 23:43.16 | dbb | looking |
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| 23:44.02 | lindi- | dbb: i took a quick look at retty -- it seems to do basically the same thing but uses C |
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| 23:46.42 | lindi- | dbb: screenify seems to work without any modifications also on amd64 |
| 23:46.42 | dbb | hi lindi- seems to be doing something .. thanks very much |
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| 23:47.24 | dbb | I dont know what ctl-L is , but something is happening |
| 23:47.38 | dbb | I just dont want the hours of work to disappear when this finishes |
| 23:48.22 | lindi- | dbb: ctrl-L is a common shortcut for redrawing the screen |
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