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| 00:04.37 | cheako | sh4g0: Gimp? |
| 00:05.04 | sh4g0 | cheako, noo.. with my lap graphics, |
| 00:05.24 | sh4g0 | well forget that. i have a nw problem :S my audio listen so ugly :S |
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| 00:40.12 | munack | In gnome, how to get access to file which requires root privilege? I tried 'xhost +', then login in as 'su' and 'nautilus' but failed. |
| 00:40.39 | DogBoy | what do you mean access munack |
| 00:40.55 | munack | get to the filesystem. |
| 00:41.00 | munack | edit a file. |
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| 00:41.11 | DogBoy | sudo vi blah |
| 00:41.30 | dondelelcaro | munack: 1) don't ever use xhost 2) use a console editor (or sux if you must use X) |
| 00:42.06 | munack | open a root console would be right too? |
| 00:42.23 | DogBoy | where do you see that feature |
| 00:42.37 | ngomes | su - |
| 00:42.39 | dondelelcaro | munack: you can do that just by using su, and then setting XAUTHORITY appropriately. |
| 00:43.08 | DogBoy | I still don't see what x has to do with it |
| 00:43.55 | munack | vi would be a terminal editor. what is i want to use gedit? |
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| 00:50.51 | DogBoy | then you say: how do I open a file with gedit that has root privileges |
| 00:50.54 | DogBoy | heh |
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| 01:12.11 | CrazyTux | I had a server with 8 gb's of ram, upgraded it to 16 gb's but it does not appear to be 'enabled' |
| 01:12.13 | CrazyTux | any thoughts? |
| 01:12.26 | CrazyTux | cat /proc/meminfo reflects 16 gb's however in dmesg.... http://pastebin.com/zj0WdNkY |
| 01:13.30 | ngomes | how much does "free" return ? |
| 01:13.59 | CrazyTux | ngomes: http://pastebin.com/C68mJtiS |
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| 01:14.24 | ngomes | CrazyTux, i see the 16 gb there |
| 01:14.48 | CrazyTux | ngomes: why would dmesg show the mem windows disabled? these are 2 gb' memory sticks |
| 01:15.27 | ngomes | no ideia |
| 01:15.31 | ngomes | but 16 are there |
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| 01:15.58 | CrazyTux | ngomes: snmp is reporting only 8 gb's |
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| 01:22.51 | xenaxon | hello, how do I enable apache mode |
| 01:22.54 | xenaxon | ? |
| 01:23.07 | xenaxon | mode rewrite |
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| 01:25.55 | liable | a2enmod |
| 01:26.11 | liable | or, hmm, i forget what it was for apache 1 |
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| 01:40.11 | Diddi | hm... I don't have man 3 printf among other man-pages.. where do I find these? |
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| 01:41.00 | amphi | Diddi: manpages-dev |
| 01:41.34 | Diddi | amphi: great, thanks |
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| 01:57.07 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 01:57.08 | dpkg | < primoturbo> how do I delete linux? < primoturbo> how do I delete debain and get something else < AciD> primoturbo > rm-rf / < primoturbo> Should I try OpenBSD? < asg> primoturbo: hahah |
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| 01:59.01 | Backup | where can i get lcurses? |
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| 02:04.42 | munack | my wlan cannot connect to the internet after the kernel is upgraded to 2.6.32. i can't even re-build it. |
| 02:05.01 | munack | is there a bug in kernel 2.6.32? |
| 02:05.32 | munack | i meant i can't rebuild rt2500. |
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| 02:08.53 | karan | hi |
| 02:08.56 | karan | i need help |
| 02:09.03 | amphi | munack: rt2500pci/us b doesn't work? |
| 02:09.07 | karan | how do install flash 10 |
| 02:09.08 | karan | in lenny |
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| 02:13.17 | CodeNinja | is there a way to setup rdesktop/gnome-rdp to copy back and forth between the rdp session and my desktop? |
| 02:13.33 | karan | how |
| 02:13.35 | karan | do u |
| 02:13.39 | karan | installl |
| 02:13.42 | karan | flash 10 |
| 02:13.44 | karan | in debian |
| 02:13.48 | karan | cuz when i go on youtube |
| 02:13.53 | CodeNinja | you use the enter key les often |
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| 02:13.55 | karan | it shows me a play button |
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| 02:14.09 | karan | what code ninja? |
| 02:14.21 | karan | i just want it to be back to normal flahs |
| 02:14.26 | karan | were it loads automatically |
| 02:14.33 | CodeNinja | what |
| 02:14.46 | karan | i want flash 10 in debian |
| 02:14.52 | karan | cuz if u go on youtube n stuff |
| 02:15.08 | karan | it shows you a giant grey play button on any |
| 02:15.12 | ngomes | karan, aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:15.14 | karan | flash |
| 02:15.26 | munack | amphi: that's right, rt2500pci doesn't work. |
| 02:15.39 | CodeNinja | ngomes: hm, I have 'adobe-flashplugin' here not flashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:15.52 | amphi | munack: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563429 |
| 02:15.55 | ngomes | i dont have that one |
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| 02:16.54 | ngomes | no updates for sid for 2 days ? |
| 02:16.56 | CodeNinja | ngomes: hm, lenny? |
| 02:16.57 | ngomes | strange |
| 02:17.00 | CodeNinja | oh |
| 02:17.02 | CodeNinja | weird still |
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| 02:17.45 | ngomes | CodeNinja, i have non-free repos on sources.list |
| 02:17.51 | CodeNinja | so do I |
| 02:17.59 | CodeNinja | and others |
| 02:18.23 | ngomes | and u have adobe-flashplugin |
| 02:18.35 | ngomes | maybe from an unofficial rep |
| 02:18.51 | munack | amphi: thks, have read through the bugreport. rt2500 has been removed. no mention of replacement. does that mean i can't use that hw anymore? |
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| 02:19.23 | karan | great |
| 02:19.24 | karan | now |
| 02:19.25 | karan | i cant |
| 02:19.30 | karan | watch youtube at all |
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| 02:19.35 | karan | when i click the grey play |
| 02:19.37 | factor | Where is the existing Tomcat6 install for debian? |
| 02:19.39 | karan | its just black |
| 02:19.48 | amphi | munack: rt2500pci/usb is the replacement |
| 02:19.52 | amphi | as far as I know |
| 02:20.08 | munack | ok. thks again. |
| 02:20.28 | munack | will check out for the package. |
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| 02:21.00 | amphi | munack: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500 |
| 02:21.10 | amphi | munack: it's in the kernel package |
| 02:21.32 | karan | ok |
| 02:21.33 | karan | how |
| 02:21.34 | amphi | munack: try modinfo rt2500pci |
| 02:21.36 | karan | do i install |
| 02:21.41 | karan | adobe flash 10 in |
| 02:21.43 | karan | firefox |
| 02:21.46 | karan | for debian |
| 02:21.51 | karan | it was easier in ubuntu |
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| 02:23.00 | munack | amphi: there's a rt2500-modules-2.6.18-4-686, none for 2.6.32. |
| 02:23.19 | amphi | sighs |
| 02:23.53 | amphi | did you read the goddam wiki page? |
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| 02:24.21 | munack | sorry, miss out your earlier msgs before i last reply. |
| 02:24.36 | likevinyl | amphi, |
| 02:24.38 | likevinyl | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/RT2500USB.html |
| 02:24.39 | likevinyl | ;) |
| 02:24.41 | amphi | munack: no worries |
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| 02:24.54 | likevinyl | compile 2.6.33 :) |
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| 02:25.22 | karan | someone help!!!!! |
| 02:25.30 | neuro_damage | I'm seeing a lot of conflicting loop errors for service scripts on startup for init.d that conflict etc...is there any deb tool that helps you resolve these issues? |
| 02:25.41 | neuro_damage | or an apt-get comand that will repair these issues indirectly |
| 02:25.43 | neuro_damage | ? |
| 02:25.58 | amphi | likevinyl: rt2500pci/usb modules are provided by the debian .32 kernek package |
| 02:26.01 | amphi | *kernel |
| 02:26.57 | amphi | munack: modprobe rt2500pci works? |
| 02:27.04 | neuro_damage | ok here's a question how can I cleanup stale files left behind by removed packages? |
| 02:27.29 | jvdm | neuro_damage: purge it? |
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| 02:28.16 | CodeNinja | could anyone possibly explain what I did here? http://chriswalker.devnetonline.net/pictures/hemera-fail.jpg system locked earlier yesterday, I rebooted it without watching it, been sitting at that screen for about a day now |
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| 02:28.57 | neuro_damage | jvdm: if it's already removed? but may have left files behind? |
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| 02:29.12 | neuro_damage | typically I'm guessing the package manager will move those to some alternate name |
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| 02:30.26 | munack | i have the latest version of wireless-tools install, and lsmod shows that rt2500pci is loaded. but i can't connect to the internet. |
| 02:30.49 | jvdm | neuro_damage: without purging the package it will left stuff behind... |
| 02:31.15 | jvdm | neuro_damage: but i'm not sure of what specifically. |
| 02:31.34 | likevinyl | yep i see... amphi see that: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/ |
| 02:32.07 | hardbop200 | hi all - the version of jackd in squeeze isn't new enough for my needs. what is the proper "debian way" to get the newest version of a package, without messing up all of my dependancies on the package? |
| 02:33.28 | neuro_damage | jvdm: ok kewl, I see that this filed bug is exactly my issue, not sure what the correct fix is though |
| 02:33.29 | amphi | munack: does iwlist <iface> scan show any AP ? |
| 02:33.34 | neuro_damage | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574975 |
| 02:35.31 | neuro_damage | http://pastebin.com/MiS3wGp1, that's my sources.list, so I could possibly be doing something wrong in there |
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| 02:38.04 | macrobat | !tell hardbop200 about ssb |
| 02:38.45 | munack | amphi: iwlist wlan0 scan throws up one AP, normally it is more than this. |
| 02:39.29 | hardbop200 | macrobat: that's awesome, thank you so much for the pointer!!! :) |
| 02:39.46 | macrobat | neuro_damage: maybe one deb line per repo |
| 02:40.18 | amphi | munack: I don't have such a card myself |
| 02:40.28 | macrobat | hardbop200: maybe http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976 |
| 02:40.46 | neuro_damage | macrobat: not sure I get that some are for squeeze/updates and then some squeeze and others squeeze-proposed-updates, etc...is there a way to compound all that into one line? |
| 02:41.13 | neuro_damage | macrobat: oh I see what you mean, cheers for that |
| 02:41.41 | jvdm | neuro_damage: i think you have a dependency loop, your sources.list seems fine |
| 02:42.15 | jvdm | neuro_damage: the bug report didn't help you? |
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| 02:45.53 | hardbop200 | macrobat: dpkg is giving me all sorts of good info, thanks - this solves a long-standing problem for me :) |
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| 02:46.46 | macrobat | i hope a newer jackd works |
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| 02:49.19 | hardbop200 | macrobat: I'm going for the uupdate method to get the latest upstream... |
| 02:49.37 | hardbop200 | macrobat: or I'll go down in flames trying ;) |
| 02:49.43 | macrobat | :) |
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| 02:58.08 | lackita | I'm having an issue with using passwd as root where it won't let me change the password, I've posted the output to #flood |
| 02:59.02 | lackita | and looking at auth.log gives the message I'm posting to #flood now |
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| 02:59.22 | lackita | does anybody have any ideas as to why this is happening and/or how to fix it |
| 02:59.41 | johni | lackita, can you please repost the errors? or use pastebin |
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| 03:00.19 | lackita | oh, I'm running debian testing, btw |
| 03:00.36 | johni | lackita, do you authenticate against a domain? |
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| 03:01.15 | lackita | I don't believe so, I am actually unsure what that means |
| 03:02.09 | johni | lackita, did you setup your debian installation to use active directory for authentication? |
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| 03:02.57 | lackita | once again, unsure what that means, I don't remember seeing any options for active directory authentication |
| 03:03.01 | johni | lackita, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/545864 take a look here, I know it is ubuntu but you might be to use it |
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| 03:04.51 | johni | lackita, here is the similar issue reported against debian - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573323 |
| 03:05.38 | lackita | that seems to have done the trick, thanks guys |
| 03:05.42 | johni | lackita, hope this help. very weird error message ... it takes some effort to get AD going so not sure why this would be turned on be default |
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| 03:06.39 | lackita | yeah, it was a bit of a pain, additionally frustrating because the package got added because I was trying to set the machine up as a file server |
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| 03:33.28 | tntc | Does the ati/radeon/radeonhd driver in squeeze or sid support compiz? |
| 03:34.04 | tntc | All my google-fu returns ubuntu results. |
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| 03:35.43 | Wyzard | tntc: If Ubuntu 9.10 supports it then Squeeze should too, since it's more up-to-date |
| 03:36.30 | spersaud | tntc: should, but comes with all the cons of using sid ... |
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| 03:37.14 | iateadonut | can postfix serve more than one domain name on a single server? |
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| 03:37.49 | dondelelcaro | iateadonut: yes |
| 03:37.53 | tntc | I either get a white screen or complaints about compiz not working. |
| 03:38.02 | tntc | er...not being supported. |
| 03:38.10 | tntc | Software rendering or something |
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| 03:59.35 | killown | how i do to change X resolution? |
| 03:59.42 | killown | xrand not working here |
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| 04:02.35 | killown | anyone help? |
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| 04:06.39 | kill-9 | killown: do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
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| 04:07.00 | killown | kill-9 yep |
| 04:08.05 | kill-9 | See if it contains lines such as 'Modes "1024x768" "800x600"' |
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| 04:08.40 | kill-9 | killown: I should ask, you mean to reconfigure the default resolution right? |
| 04:08.55 | killown | kill-9 yes |
| 04:08.58 | killown | for 800x600 |
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| 04:10.06 | kill-9 | I know older configurations have some complicated ModeLine definitions, but for standard modes you should be able to just change the Modes statement to any standard resolution |
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| 04:10.55 | billub | i want to move a system dir from one drive to another, can i simply move it, create a symbolic link for it in the original place and expect it to work ? |
| 04:11.22 | gnat_x | since i've upgraded to squeeze and started using the 2.6.32-3-amd64 kernel, my machine has started to halt itself because it overheats. |
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| 04:11.42 | kill-9 | in fact, you can have more than one resolution separated by spaces, and use Ctrl+Alt+-/Ctrl+Alt++ switch modes while X is running |
| 04:11.52 | gnat_x | i'm not hearing the fans go off when it does that. its happened twice today. |
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| 04:14.51 | gnat_x | billub: that should work, but its probably a better idea to copy the data to the new drive, edit /etc/fstab so it mounts to that partition on the new drive when you reboot. |
| 04:16.00 | nsadmin | billub: you can also mount it (oh, as just above) |
| 04:16.35 | nsadmin | what dir? |
| 04:17.11 | gnat_x | billub: though if you're talking about /etc or /boot that a bit tougher, since both of those are needed to recognize the fstab changes. |
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| 04:17.55 | gnat_x | woops meant /boot or / paritions. |
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| 04:19.24 | sariyu | hi dis s sariyu |
| 04:19.58 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.06 | sariyu | can any one help how to install packages from server to clients |
| 04:20.35 | nsadmin | the servers are the mirrors, just point the clients there |
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| 04:21.13 | sariyu | yes |
| 04:21.42 | nsadmin | so if you have something special you want, you should say it in detail |
| 04:21.43 | sariyu | means |
| 04:21.55 | sariyu | ok |
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| 04:22.48 | sariyu | i need to develop a tool which helps the clients to install the packages from server |
| 04:22.51 | nsadmin | and also, answering "why" will help direct to the closest thing that can help |
| 04:23.02 | nsadmin | already done. |
| 04:23.14 | nsadmin | it's called apt-get |
| 04:23.26 | nsadmin | or aptitude |
| 04:24.05 | sariyu | i want to sit infront of server and install on client |
| 04:24.44 | nsadmin | there's supposed to be a way to install via ssh |
| 04:24.58 | nsadmin | how far are clients away from server? |
| 04:25.17 | nsadmin | inches? feet? miles? thousands? |
| 04:25.34 | sariyu | in lan |
| 04:25.44 | nsadmin | so... feet. |
| 04:25.52 | nsadmin | within walking distance |
| 04:25.56 | sariyu | yes |
| 04:26.02 | gnat_x | sariyu: are these thin clients running from your server, or do you just want to serve the install from your server to install debian onto the machines? |
| 04:26.04 | sariyu | yes |
| 04:26.31 | sariyu | ya |
| 04:27.07 | nsadmin | gnat's are two choices: thin clients? or, install to the machines? |
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| 04:27.37 | sariyu | it means? |
| 04:27.50 | gnat_x | or possibly ramfs machines as well... |
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| 04:28.20 | brbrbr | ramfs thick clients?:) |
| 04:28.27 | nsadmin | sariyu do each machine have a hd? |
| 04:28.45 | sariyu | yes |
| 04:28.58 | nsadmin | and you want to install debian onto the hd of each machine? |
| 04:29.00 | gnat_x | sariyu: a thin client means that all data and software go from server to machine. the second option is your standard desktop with its own operating system. |
| 04:29.25 | nsadmin | looks like he wants second option |
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| 04:29.52 | gnat_x | theoretically, option three is serve a thin install that only loads into the ram of the clients. not quite server/client in the thin client way. |
| 04:30.04 | nsadmin | how much ram in each? |
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| 04:30.28 | gnat_x | but useful if you're in a computer lab or something where the machines should be getting wiped daily. |
| 04:30.31 | sariyu | 2gb |
| 04:30.42 | nsadmin | that's plenty... |
| 04:30.59 | nsadmin | and you want to install debian onto the hd of each machine? |
| 04:31.08 | rumpsy | hey nsadmin ;) |
| 04:31.09 | brbrbr | sure. he can use "hdd2ram"-way-loaded boxes from server storage |
| 04:31.15 | nsadmin | heya :) |
| 04:31.23 | brbrbr | or from NAS[not NSA ;] |
| 04:31.31 | sariyu | altiris agent is useful to our projrct r not? |
| 04:31.48 | nsadmin | dunno what that is |
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| 04:32.56 | sariyu | its an application which will be useful to install softwares onto the clients from server |
| 04:33.34 | nsadmin | you'd be duplicating work you can get for free |
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| 04:34.37 | sariyu | we need to develop application like altiris agent |
| 04:35.55 | sariyu | whats up |
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| 04:37.12 | sariyu | r u there nsadmin |
| 04:38.17 | gnat_x | sariyu: i think you want to read up on some of this stuff. look at aptitude and debmirror. |
| 04:39.06 | gnat_x | sariyu: those two packages, plus a little effort should allow you to host software on your server that be installed by the clients. |
| 04:40.08 | sariyu | i have idea on ssh and scp and apt-get |
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| 04:41.59 | sariyu | but i want to create GUI from which i need to select client and package to be installed |
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| 04:42.53 | gnat_x | so you want to sit in front of the server and click Client:Foo Pacakage:Bar then hit "Deploy" and have it install remotely? |
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| 04:44.25 | johnfg | In the wp-config.php file for wordpress 2.5.1-1, it refers to a bug report. the bug report says the problems was supposedly fixed in wordpress 2.2.2-1. But it's not. |
| 04:44.36 | sariyu | how can i connct script with gui |
| 04:44.54 | johnfg | Same problem as described in the bug report. Is there a different version of wordpress that works? |
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| 04:45.10 | gnat_x | sariyu: use a language that does gui stuff, like python or c |
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| 04:45.41 | ngomes | what happen to sid ? i dont get updates for the last 3 days or so |
| 04:45.47 | sariyu | shal i use glade |
| 04:45.49 | wols | ngomes: !topic |
| 04:45.57 | wols | sariyu: use pygtk then? |
| 04:46.49 | johnfg | ngomes, Read the intro. |
| 04:47.02 | ngomes | im on it |
| 04:47.17 | gnat_x | johnfg: are you using the package? |
| 04:47.35 | johnfg | gnat_x, You mean wordpress? |
| 04:47.51 | gnat_x | johnfg: yeah, are you using the source package? |
| 04:48.00 | wols | ,version wordpress |
| 04:48.01 | judd | (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 04:48.09 | wols | ,versions wordpress |
| 04:48.11 | judd | wordpress -- etch: 2.0.10-1etch3; etch-security: 2.0.10-1etch5; lenny-security: 2.5.1-11+lenny1; lenny: 2.5.1-11+lenny2; sid: 2.9.2-1; squeeze: 2.9.2-1 |
| 04:48.16 | sariyu | ok yaar thanks 4 ur information we'l try it bye. |
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| 04:48.51 | johnfg | 2.9.2 is what I'm using on fedora. the lenny version doesn't work as is. |
| 04:49.25 | johnfg | gnat_x, Did that answer your question? I didn't install wordpress from source, but from apt. |
| 04:49.32 | gnat_x | yeah. |
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| 04:51.31 | gnat_x | johnfg: i found with drupal that it was just easier for me to track the source myself. Though we've also got lots of installs each with their own tweaks for the client, yadda yadda. if you're just throwing it up as your own blog or some such it may not be worth the effort. |
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| 04:51.58 | gnat_x | johnfg: if you do track the source, make sure that you put yourself on wordpress's security announce list though. |
| 04:52.54 | johnfg | Actually, now that you say that, I remember that I'm tracking the source for fedora. There version is behind and buggy. I do the auto updates from my dashboard. |
| 04:53.05 | johnfg | gnat_x, Are you using the 2.9.2 version then? |
| 04:53.37 | gnat_x | johnfg: i haven't tried wordpress in a while, so no. i'm stuck in drupal land. |
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| 05:14.03 | wash | Hello folks - I just got a new box, installed Debian 5.0, things seemed to be fine during install, but I got a kernel panic on bootup. The problem, however, goes away when I unplug my other hard drive and my cd drive. My board only has two SATA ports, so I connect the third device through a PCI card I bought, and that seems to be what's causing the issue. Anyone have any clue how I can resolve this without leaving my cd drive/second hdd detached? |
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| 05:15.06 | DogBoy | could be the power supply too |
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| 05:16.04 | wash | Hm - that's very possible, it's a Mini ITX case, power supply is a shitty little thing. |
| 05:16.37 | DogBoy | more stuff in the box, more power consumed |
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| 05:17.25 | DogBoy | power supply is overlooked quite a bit |
| 05:17.38 | DogBoy | people tend to skimp on it |
| 05:17.47 | DogBoy | when in fact it's the last thing you should skimp on |
| 05:17.48 | wash | Strange thing is it does seem to boot fine if I plug the cd drive into the PCI card, and the two hard drives into the board |
| 05:18.04 | DogBoy | so why not do that |
| 05:19.23 | wash | I will if I have to, figured I should look into it a little more first. |
| 05:19.55 | wash | Is there any way for me to confirm it's a power issue? |
| 05:20.05 | DogBoy | it could be a problem with grub too |
| 05:20.44 | DogBoy | it might be that depending on how you have the drives in they are being detected in a manner that messes with grub |
| 05:20.54 | wash | *nods* |
| 05:21.01 | DogBoy | you could try specifying by uuid or label |
| 05:21.32 | nsadmin | sometimes the drive grub is on is detected second, and the other drive is booted first (maybe it has no os and fails to boot) |
| 05:21.48 | nsadmin | sometimes you can set the detect order in the bios |
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| 05:22.39 | wash | *nods* |
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| 05:23.26 | nsadmin | grub has a device.map which sets out which drive was first or second, and if the wrong drive is detected first, the device map would be "reversed" |
| 05:24.21 | wash | Tried that - problem is that whatever device is plugged into the PCI SATA card doesn't show up in the BIOS. |
| 05:24.33 | nsadmin | anyway. the more you study grub and booting, the more situations you can get over |
| 05:25.19 | nsadmin | hmm. I guess the reason my situation is different is my satas are on my mobo? |
| 05:25.40 | wash | tried setting the order in the BIOS, that is. If it's booting fine with the two hard drives plugged into the board and the cd-drive plugged into the PCI card? |
| 05:26.17 | wash | Means I'll have to switch around the connections if I ever need to boot from CD again, though. |
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| 05:26.47 | nsadmin | are they all sata? |
| 05:26.54 | wash | yep |
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| 05:27.19 | nsadmin | and you have mb ports? how many? |
| 05:27.40 | wash | two SATA MB ports. |
| 05:27.50 | nsadmin | ok, and the cd is also sata? |
| 05:27.52 | wash | and two more SATA ports on the PCI card. |
| 05:27.53 | wash | yah |
| 05:28.41 | nsadmin | how many hds do you have, and how many of those need to boot? (actually, I suggest you boot from just one of them) |
| 05:29.08 | wash | Just the one |
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| 05:29.14 | wash | err, two hard drives |
| 05:29.21 | wash | but just one to boot |
| 05:29.53 | nsadmin | ok, what if you put the cd in the first slot, the hd that needs to boot in the second, and the hd that doesn't need to boot on the card |
| 05:30.45 | wash | That configuration doesn't work for whatever reason. ATM, both HDDs on the mobo and the cd drive on the PCI works, or just the boot HDD on the mobo |
| 05:31.17 | nsadmin | what if there is no cd in the drive on boot? |
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| 05:31.45 | nsadmin | would that make a difference? and what error is it? |
| 05:32.01 | wash | One sec (there's been no cd drive in there for awhile |
| 05:32.17 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 05:32.47 | nsadmin | if it gets thru booting the kernel, maybe it's not finding the initrd? |
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| 05:33.16 | wash | Hm. It's booting fine now with boot HDD and cd drive in the motherboard, and second HDD in PCI card - and, yes, that was the issue, I think. |
| 05:33.38 | nsadmin | in which order? |
| 05:33.43 | nsadmin | on the mobo that is |
| 05:34.13 | wash | 1: boot HDD 2: CD |
| 05:34.26 | nsadmin | I wonder if there's a grub way to "try booting from cd" |
| 05:34.39 | wash | The specific error that I got, |
| 05:34.43 | wash | well, errors, |
| 05:35.41 | wash | Something about not being about to mount /dev/sda1 to /dev/root, then something about not being about to find initrd. Then it dropped me into busybox. Lemme see if it'll boot with a cd in the cd drive now.. |
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| 05:36.24 | nsadmin | ok, you may stil be stuck with switching wires to boot cd... |
| 05:37.14 | wash | It seems to be booting CD fine now. Is it possible that grub/whatever the error was corrected itself after I booted up successfully with just the hdd/ |
| 05:37.33 | DogBoy | at any rate it wouldn't hurt to set your grub to use uuid rather than like /dev/sda1 etc |
| 05:37.50 | DogBoy | and /etc/fstab as well |
| 05:38.27 | nsadmin | right, that way it will find the right partition no matter what boot order... which seems to be your issue |
| 05:38.33 | wash | *nods* Will do DogBoy. I take it the grub/fstab man pages will have enough info to get me through thtat? |
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| 05:39.02 | nsadmin | wash: take a look at... ls /dev/disk |
| 05:39.10 | nsadmin | you should see by-uuid |
| 05:39.12 | DogBoy | yea and you can read this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountDisksByLabel |
| 05:39.20 | DogBoy | you can also do it by label |
| 05:40.06 | DogBoy | by label is a little friendlier |
| 05:40.06 | wash | Is that guide readable without a GUI? |
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| 05:40.22 | DogBoy | with lynx I suppose |
| 05:40.28 | wash | k |
| 05:40.30 | DogBoy | or some other text browser |
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| 05:40.47 | wash | my laptops in the middle of a gentoo build. |
| 05:40.50 | nsadmin | then look in by-uuid if that;s what it's called, and you can ls -l in there to see what they link to (they're symlinks created at boot) |
| 05:41.01 | wash | So I won't have firefox back for... awhile. |
| 05:41.23 | DogBoy | it's all explained in that link there |
| 05:41.32 | wash | @nsadmin - *nods* thanks |
| 05:41.59 | wash | appreciate the assitance |
| 05:41.59 | nsadmin | at that point you'll see what uuid goes with what partition |
| 05:43.17 | wash | I've gotta run, I have class - thank you both very much. |
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| 06:04.06 | snowsnakes | hi |
| 06:04.20 | snowsnakes | I am wondering how can I make program start upon booting |
| 06:04.29 | snowsnakes | it's autossh |
| 06:04.43 | snowsnakes | so the network needs to be loaded and working |
| 06:04.53 | Vasistha | snowsnakes: look into update-rc.d |
| 06:05.18 | Vasistha | !update-rc.d |
| 06:05.18 | dpkg | update-rc.d is, like, used to manipulate System V style init script links, which are used to stop/start system services. Read the update-rc.d man page for a good introduction to Debian's boot process. This is NOT a tool users should invoke directly (see man page); ask me about <rcconf>, <sysv-rc-conf> or <bum> instead. |
| 06:05.53 | snowsnakes | !rcconf |
| 06:05.53 | dpkg | [rcconf] a frontend to update-rc.d, or check out <sysv-rc-conf> - see these http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 and http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/10/27/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/ and ask me about <services> |
| 06:06.00 | snowsnakes | neat trick |
| 06:06.10 | Vasistha | !tell snowsnakes about msg the bot |
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| 06:08.45 | snowsnakes | hehe |
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| 06:29.45 | mistermattaway | I dual boot debian with vista. Is there a way that I can shrink my debian partition without screwing things up? |
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| 06:32.23 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: check out parted. It's gonna depend on what type of file system you've got -- parted can only shrink certain types. |
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| 06:33.27 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: of course with linux it's easy to copy an entire partition to another volume, moving OS from disk to disk as needed. But changing partition sizes is a trick |
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| 06:34.39 | mistermattaway | I know that just deleting the partition will also delete grub |
| 06:35.17 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: are you no longer using linux? |
| 06:35.44 | mistermattaway | I'm just thinking out loud about how it may just be easier to wipe it and start with a smaller partition |
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| 06:37.09 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: well your notions are a little off. grub exists in two places-- in the master boot record and also on the disk. Even if the disk is not accessible, it is still possible to use grub to boot systems -- but it is somewhat convoluted; you have to put in all the commands manually. |
| 06:37.23 | mistermattaway | oh I see |
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| 06:38.02 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: how long have you been using debian, and what have you been using it for? It sounds like vista is still your primary os |
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| 06:38.58 | mistermattaway | Vasistha, you're right - it is my primary OS. I haven't been using debian very long, I decided to dual boot somewhat recently so I could play around with it a little bit |
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| 06:40.15 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: have you spent much time configuring things, e.g. wireless networking or video cards, or would it be easy enough to just do a fresh install? |
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| 06:42.22 | mistermattaway | I had configured the ethernet, but I was never able to get my wireless figured out |
| 06:42.54 | mistermattaway | I also had aptitude working |
| 06:43.46 | mistermattaway | my wireless card had 'non free firmware' I think was the term |
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| 06:43.56 | mistermattaway | http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 06:44.01 | Vasistha | I know the feeling. Things like that will keep a person from really being able to go very far. |
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| 06:44.47 | mistermattaway | there's a learning curve for sure, the first one was getting the package installer to stop trying to look at the install disk for new stuff |
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| 06:45.25 | Vasistha | heh. yeah. I don't think it's possible to get windows to stop looking for an install disk, ever. |
| 06:45.32 | mistermattaway | but once I get some free time I'll get back to the wiki page and go through the steps to get the drivers going |
| 06:46.04 | Vasistha | I used to run a different kernel for wireless networking. Then I intentionally bought a linux-friendly lappy. |
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| 06:46.55 | mistermattaway | I was lucky that the wireless on my laptop was the only thing that came up during the installation as beign not fully supported out of the box |
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| 06:47.16 | Vasistha | oh, look at that, man parted says resize2fs can resize ext3. That's what you should do. |
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| 06:47.30 | mistermattaway | excellent |
| 06:47.39 | mistermattaway | I only really need to shave about 10 or 15 off |
| 06:47.49 | Vasistha | 15 GB? |
| 06:47.53 | mistermattaway | yeah |
| 06:48.50 | Vasistha | that's bigger than my root partition |
| 06:49.09 | mistermattaway | :) |
| 06:49.34 | mistermattaway | I wasn't sure how much I was going to need so I gave myself what I thought would definitely be enough |
| 06:49.35 | Vasistha | I do have two much larger data partitions, but... you don't need 15 GB for root. |
| 06:49.53 | mistermattaway | how much do you have for root |
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| 06:51.13 | Vasistha | 5 GB. |
| 06:51.26 | Vasistha | I outgrew it recently and put my /var on a second 5 GB partition |
| 06:51.28 | Sm0ke0ut | can someone help me with this; http://pastebin.com/SLR6XFVD what should I do exactly? The system is running 2.6.27.10, so I don't really see that problem? |
| 06:51.45 | mistermattaway | Vasistha, cool, thanks for the direction |
| 06:52.07 | Vasistha | mistermattaway: good luck with your resize and with getting wireless working. |
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| 06:52.14 | mistermattaway | thanks :) |
| 06:52.26 | mistermattaway | I'll be back here again if I can't figure it out |
| 06:52.33 | cast | Sm0ke0ut: and is CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED disabled? |
| 06:52.50 | Sm0ke0ut | where can I find that variable? |
| 06:53.04 | cast | /boot/config- |
| 06:53.17 | Lazy^ | Hello, how i can disable x11 login for certain user. So that user account doens't show up on gdm / kde login screen. |
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| 06:53.35 | Sm0ke0ut | seems so |
| 06:53.52 | Sm0ke0ut | *enables* |
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| 06:54.34 | cast | eh, that message says that it should be disabled |
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| 06:56.04 | wols | Sm0ke0ut: line 4 clears tells you what to do |
| 06:56.06 | Vasistha | Sm0ke0ut: did you /msg dpkg udev squeeze |
| 06:56.56 | Vasistha | Lazy^: I'm not sure, but I know that in kde it is possible, through the admin control panel, to not display certain users on the login screen. That may be your best solution |
| 06:57.36 | Sm0ke0ut | Ah, thanks Vasistha. That's a very clear instruction |
| 06:58.29 | Lazy^ | Vasistha: what about gnome ? |
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| 06:59.07 | Vasistha | Lazy^: I've never used it, but I'd guess it has a similar feature. However I also expect that there's only one login manager |
| 06:59.40 | Vasistha | Lazy^: is this for one computer where users can choose to use either kde or gnome at login time? |
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| 07:00.45 | Lazy^ | Vasistha: i want to hide one account from login screen / retrict gnome / kde login. So that use is only able to login via ssh |
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| 07:02.41 | Vasistha | Lazy^: well, like I said, if kdm is putting up that login screen I know it's possible to hide a user. I'm not sure about gdm, but it's probably doable. As for restricting login (supposing someone were to type in the username rather than selecting it from a list) ... I think it's possible but I don't know how to do it |
| 07:03.13 | Lazy^ | ok ok, maybe someone knows =) |
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| 07:04.39 | Vasistha | Lazy^: at any rate, if you want to hide a user from the kdm login screen: kcontrol > system administration > login manager > users > hidden users |
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| 07:06.42 | simonrvn | here's to ries, and getting it or a replacement up *take a sip of coffee* |
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| 07:07.13 | Lazy^ | Vasistha: kk, but still the gnome issue. Since most of the users are using gnome.... |
| 07:07.52 | Vasistha | Lazy^: you can always ask #gnome at irc.gnome.org |
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| 07:37.23 | farri | I have a debian machine in a LAN (192.168 address via dhcp) but I want it to serve rtmp streaming videos to some CDN, is there any way to make it accessible from outside the LAN?? |
| 07:37.51 | Vasistha | farri: is it already accessible from other computers within the LAN? |
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| 07:38.18 | farri | Vasistha: I suppose yes, I installed yesterday and it works via wifi |
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| 07:38.41 | farri | Vasistha: but I should try first to make sure |
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| 07:39.05 | farri | Vasistha: in any case, lets suppose it is accessible, what steps should I do next? |
| 07:39.19 | Vasistha | farri: depends on your network setup |
| 07:39.23 | farri | ah |
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| 07:39.43 | farri | so better ask it from the computer itself |
| 07:39.46 | Vasistha | farri: there's nothing your debian computer can do to make itself accessible outside the network. That's entirely up to the network. |
| 07:40.02 | farri | aha, the firewall should be configured yes? |
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| 07:40.22 | Vasistha | farri: I should have said "LAN" rather than "network". And which firewall? The network firewall... yes, that will be necessary |
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| 07:40.25 | farri | it is in fact a kind of cyber site and there are like 6 computers |
| 07:40.37 | Vasistha | farri: a cafe or something? |
| 07:40.45 | farri | kind of cafe yes |
| 07:41.16 | cast | whats a cyber site? |
| 07:41.23 | Vasistha | farri: gaming cafe was my assumption |
| 07:41.51 | farri | yes, gaming cafe, and I need to make one of the computers accessible from outside |
| 07:42.11 | farri | but the main connection is dsl and I think there is only one IP in the outisde |
| 07:42.41 | tuv | how do i disable ipv6? |
| 07:42.58 | Vasistha | !tell tuv about java ipv6 |
| 07:43.16 | tuv | Vasistha: not java. everywhere |
| 07:43.17 | Vasistha | farri: at any rate -- yeah, you'll need to configure the cafe's firewall, and also the router to forward traffic on that port to that computer |
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| 07:43.46 | Vasistha | tuv: there are instructions there to disable it everywhere |
| 07:43.46 | farri | aha ok so to connect to some computer I need to redirect on port to this computer that's it? |
| 07:43.46 | tuv | some services listen only to ipv6, making them unreachable |
| 07:44.01 | farri | so it's more a thing of the router rather than the firewall |
| 07:44.06 | Vasistha | farri: uhh... I'm not sure if you understood what I said properly |
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| 07:44.49 | farri | I will rewrite: the firewall but not cut communications to this computer, and the router must redirect one port to this computer isn't it? |
| 07:45.00 | farri | I will rewrite: the firewall must not cut communications to this computer, and the router must redirect one port to this computer isn't it? |
| 07:45.17 | farri | changed but for must sorry |
| 07:45.53 | Vasistha | farri: I think this is all correct. Honestly you might do better in ##networking |
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| 07:46.12 | farri | ok will do when I am in front of the computer |
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| 07:46.17 | farri | VAsis:; thanks |
| 07:46.33 | Vasistha | farri: good luck ... hope I didn't misguide you, I'm no network wizard |
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| 07:51.10 | tuv | Vasistha: thanks. it worked! |
| 07:51.13 | cmatheson | i'm trying to install debian onto a system that has an existing LVM volume. i've chosen "configure Logical volumes" from the partman menu, but it's telling me that partitions will be written to disk and vg0 will be formatted--is it going to destroy all the data in my logical volumes on vg0? |
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| 07:51.30 | Vasistha | tuv: you're welcome. See, I wasn't trying to give you java |
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| 07:52.34 | Vasistha | cmatheson: hmmm, I dunno. I don't trust the debian installer very well with partitions. It remains one of the weak points in the installation process. |
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| 07:53.05 | Vasistha | cmatheson: it might be best to go into expert mode or something |
| 07:53.35 | cmatheson | Vasistha: oh cool, how do i go into expert mode? |
| 07:53.53 | Vasistha | cmatheson: I don't remember :( lemme see if I can look it up |
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| 07:54.18 | cmatheson | Vasistha: oh sorry, i can google too :) |
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| 07:54.57 | Vasistha | cmatheson: it's easier if you just start in expert mode... it'd probably take you less time to reboot and start over than to figure it out on google :) |
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| 07:55.08 | cmatheson | Vasistha: fair enough, i will do that |
| 07:55.09 | cmatheson | thanks |
| 07:55.47 | Vasistha | cmatheson: oh, and don't use the guided partition thingy. it sucks for all but the most basic setups |
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| 07:56.12 | cmatheson | Vasistha: haha, yeah. i'm using manual right now. hopefully i'll have better luck with expert mode. thanks again (gotta run over to the server room) |
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| 08:03.25 | cmatheson | Vasistha: hmm, i'm in expert mode now but it looks like my choices for partitioning are still just Guided and Manual. or can i just set up my stuff from the command line and then somehow tell the installer which partition(s) i want to install to? |
| 08:04.13 | Vasistha | cmatheson: unfortunately I don't know. It is possible to do a chroot style install, though |
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| 08:04.55 | artisan | hi, anyone here tested the sid xen kernel already? |
| 08:05.10 | artisan | I am having troubles with it |
| 08:05.16 | nsadmin | cmatheson: do you have an sfdisk dump or something? |
| 08:05.38 | Vasistha | nsadmin: he's got an existing lvm and doesn't want debinstaller to wipe his vg0 |
| 08:05.41 | nsadmin | artisan: been to the bts yet? |
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| 08:06.00 | artisan | nsadmin: bts? have a pointer for me? |
| 08:06.06 | Vasistha | nsadmin: I don't know myself what it will actually do |
| 08:06.10 | cmatheson | this blog comment http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/install-ubuntu-804-on-lvm2/#comment-128717 says that it does the right thing, despite the scary message (if ubuntu behaves the same as debian) |
| 08:06.25 | nsadmin | for shame :) you're a sid user and you should know this :) |
| 08:06.30 | nsadmin | ok ok, here it is: |
| 08:06.31 | artisan | nsadmin: bugtracker you mean? |
| 08:06.32 | nsadmin | !sid |
| 08:06.32 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 08:06.38 | nsadmin | err |
| 08:06.43 | nsadmin | !bts |
| 08:06.44 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 08:07.10 | artisan | well, I actually am firm with bug trackers, just never came across 'bts' ;) |
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| 08:07.35 | Vasistha | cmatheson: nice. I'll bet you're safe then. But of course it's always advisable to back up... |
| 08:07.39 | nsadmin | artisan as a sid user, it's your first stop. you're considered an expert user :) |
| 08:08.10 | artisan | nsadmin: yeah, point taken. but anyways, anyone tried the xen kernel from there? |
| 08:08.11 | cmatheson | Vasistha: haha, true enough. i have backups but it will be an awful lot of data to restore before morning |
| 08:08.21 | Vasistha | ha! |
| 08:08.23 | nsadmin | you still haven't checked the bts?? |
| 08:08.35 | nsadmin | you're not understanding... |
| 08:08.36 | artisan | nsadmin: I did actually before coming here. |
| 08:08.42 | Vasistha | ...and what were you doing that caused you to need to restore from backup? |
| 08:08.44 | nsadmin | oh ok |
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| 08:09.10 | artisan | nsadmin: sometimes not good to presume to much ;) |
| 08:09.10 | No10Day | hello, i have maked a deb package. when test install it, why my postinst script no run |
| 08:09.12 | nsadmin | my mistake... |
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| 08:09.32 | nsadmin | well let's put it this way... normally we -don't- get all kinds.... |
| 08:09.33 | cmatheson | beautiful, everything is intact |
| 08:09.34 | artisan | this xen thing seems to be a mess atm, |
| 08:10.08 | nsadmin | you -are- running sid... you're expecting everything to work? :) |
| 08:10.13 | babilen | !tell No10Day about mentors |
| 08:10.46 | nsadmin | anyhoo, I'm going for soup... |
| 08:11.10 | Vasistha | cmatheson: now if only someone would fix that damn warning message |
| 08:11.23 | cmatheson | Vasistha: yeah, that sure was scary. i'll have to file a bug report |
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| 08:11.34 | wols | nsadmin: people are running windows and expect that! |
| 08:12.03 | artisan | nsadmin: there is no xen atm outside of sid, lenny xen kernel is getting too old (missing features for newer guest systems) |
| 08:12.14 | artisan | nsadmin: you assume to much ;) |
| 08:12.26 | artisan | there is no chance outside of sid for uptodate xen |
| 08:12.54 | artisan | seems only distro doing quite well atm is suse (xen people from debian already considered pulling patches from them ..) |
| 08:13.30 | artisan | but hey, I have xen farm and need to host newer systems soon. so I need an uptodate dom0 kernel. |
| 08:13.43 | artisan | trying all what debian offers in that flavor, I just came here :) |
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| 08:14.28 | artisan | so, anyone experiences with that sid xen kernel? booting it with grub2 results for me in not avalable hypervisor in /sysfs :/ |
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| 08:15.42 | valdyn | artisan: you took a dom0 kernel from sid? |
| 08:15.49 | artisan | valdyn: ack |
| 08:15.58 | artisan | just testing it. |
| 08:16.28 | valdyn | artisan: i just saw there is one, i didn't think so |
| 08:16.31 | cmatheson | the ssh-install in expert mode is a beautiful thing |
| 08:16.45 | artisan | cmatheson: hm good hint, I gotta try that once! |
| 08:17.02 | artisan | valdyn: are you planning to test it? |
| 08:17.08 | valdyn | artisan: nope |
| 08:17.13 | artisan | xen-linux-system-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 .. it is. |
| 08:17.45 | JyZyXEL | so i was thinking |
| 08:17.47 | JyZyXEL | if you start a MD in read-only wouldn't it be possible to clone one of its devices while the array is active? |
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| 08:18.26 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: you can clone it even while its active... |
| 08:18.41 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: assuming youre talking about raid1 |
| 08:18.46 | artisan | I am still unsure with my grub2 settings for xen (my first attempt on grub 2), anyone can confirm that this is the way to do it: http://pastie.org/898521 ? |
| 08:18.46 | JyZyXEL | raid-5 |
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| 08:19.35 | JyZyXEL | cloning a device from an active rw array would result in an unsynced clone probably |
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| 08:20.10 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: you can ro it if thats useful to you |
| 08:20.33 | JyZyXEL | yea cause would be cool to watch some movies from the array while one of the devices is being cloned |
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| 08:21.21 | JyZyXEL | and then i assume i can just re-start the MD device with the cloned drive |
| 08:21.54 | JyZyXEL | and it should be in sync cause the array was ro while clone was being made |
| 08:22.09 | JyZyXEL | unless stopping the MD devices writes something to the devices |
| 08:22.12 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: you can, just need to take the old driver out of the loop |
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| 08:22.23 | JyZyXEL | yea the old drive would be taken away of course |
| 08:22.30 | JyZyXEL | and it would be replaced with the clone |
| 08:23.09 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: raids are ro as if unused till you write the first time |
| 08:23.44 | JyZyXEL | so basically this would be swapping a working disk to another working disk without having to go to degraded mode and do a rebuild |
| 08:24.29 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: or you use --readonly |
| 08:24.49 | JyZyXEL | yea i was planning to use the --readonly |
| 08:24.57 | JyZyXEL | just to be sure there are no writes while dd is doing its thing |
| 08:25.32 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: theres a mark in /proc/mdstat |
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| 08:25.49 | JyZyXEL | only thing i could see going wrong is if mdadm --stop /dev/md0 writes something on the disks |
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| 08:26.03 | JyZyXEL | cause whatever that writes wouldn't be on the clone |
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| 08:29.07 | JyZyXEL | but mdadm is a pretty neatly designed and robust tool so i doubt anything would go wrong |
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| 08:43.42 | SPF | !de |
| 08:43.42 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 08:47.33 | artisan | hm, issue solved, it is a bug in grub2 which creates an entry for every kernel in /boot without considering that xen kernels need hypervisors ^^ |
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| 08:48.09 | artisan | I was to blind, and used the first xen entry instead of my carefully created xen/hypervisor entry .. with that it works. |
| 08:48.20 | artisan | I'll report back in case of instabilities |
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| 08:50.54 | ethanol | mornin' folks |
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| 09:07.57 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 09:12.35 | tpocra | I am trying to get a SATA controller card working that uses the mvsas driver but Debian for some reason does not load this module upon boot. |
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| 09:13.29 | tpocra | But I can modprobe mvsas so why does the kernel not see the card and load the module automatically? |
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| 09:13.53 | cast | NFI, but set it to load on boot then |
| 09:14.14 | babilen | !/etc/modules |
| 09:14.14 | dpkg | # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored. An entry named `auto' will cause the system to start kerneld immediately. |
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| 09:34.51 | tpocra | If I have the mvsas module loaded, should I not be able to see the drives connected to my controller card with the Marvell chipset? |
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| 09:36.36 | zitter | hi, I would like to backup a pluri Gb directory in several DVD. Is there a way to do this from command line, with no pain? |
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| 09:37.29 | cast | sure |
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| 09:38.00 | cast | how much scratch space do you have? |
| 09:38.03 | k-man | how do you edit the grub menu in debian? |
| 09:38.12 | OpenTokix | k-man: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 09:38.13 | k-man | or more specificaly, where do you edit it? |
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| 09:38.31 | k-man | OpenTokix: that's what I thought but I don't seem to have that file |
| 09:38.39 | OpenTokix | k-man: running grub2 maybe? |
| 09:39.13 | k-man | OpenTokix: yes, i believe so |
| 09:39.20 | moetunes | isn't it grub.conf or /etc/defaults/grub/ |
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| 09:39.37 | moetunes | and update-grub |
| 09:39.46 | OpenTokix | Dunno anything about grub2, isnt running it yet anywhere. |
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| 09:40.16 | kryl | please how to reinstall mysql-server and popup the menu where I select password for new databases etc... ? |
| 09:40.17 | k-man | hmmm |
| 09:40.26 | zamba | i have a problem with my pppoe connections.. often the dsl provider disconnects the line and when it's then brought back up again my router doesn't re-initialize the connection |
| 09:40.33 | kryl | I allready tryied to purge & install mysql-common without success |
| 09:40.34 | zamba | what can i do about that? |
| 09:40.38 | themill | dpkg: tell kryl about I forgot mysql initial password |
| 09:41.03 | kryl | themill, it's not about the password only I need to reinstall my.cnf original config file too |
| 09:41.11 | zamba | either check every minute if the connection is up and then re-initialize it if it isn't or get something in the pppoe daemon that makes sure that the connection stays up all the time |
| 09:41.21 | babilen | zitter: Take a look at, for example, cdbackup, multicd, ... |
| 09:41.22 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 09:41.22 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 09:41.49 | themill | kryl: are you happy to get rid of all the databases? |
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| 09:41.53 | zamba | any idea? |
| 09:42.03 | kryl | themill, that means? |
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| 09:42.22 | zitter | babilen, ok |
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| 09:42.25 | themill | kryl: do you have databases that you care about? |
| 09:42.29 | kryl | no |
| 09:42.29 | kryl | :) |
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| 09:42.36 | rvsjoen | you don't have to remove the databases I believe |
| 09:42.45 | kryl | I have no database :) |
| 09:42.49 | kryl | don't take care about that |
| 09:42.52 | OpenTokix | kryl: why don't you just reset the root password? |
| 09:42.57 | rvsjoen | only the 'internal' one used by mysql |
| 09:43.06 | kryl | because : rm -rf /etc/mysql :) |
| 09:43.17 | OpenTokix | kryl: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html |
| 09:43.21 | OpenTokix | kryl: ahh |
| 09:43.24 | kryl | :) |
| 09:43.42 | OpenTokix | kryl: apt-get remove --purge mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 mysqlclient |
| 09:43.51 | themill | OpenTokix: that won't help... |
| 09:44.04 | kryl | yes it's what I want to do ... |
| 09:44.07 | OpenTokix | kryl: you have to write all names on the purge-line, since if they are included, they will not purge the included packages. |
| 09:44.12 | OpenTokix | themill: how will that not work? |
| 09:44.14 | kryl | but it asks for dependency (apache2 etc...) |
| 09:44.31 | babilen | k-man: You are probably after /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which is generated by update-grub .. |
| 09:44.35 | themill | OpenTokix: what package is my.cnf in? |
| 09:44.43 | munack | ever since i upgraded to kernel-2.6.32, i get "dram: drm_fill_in_dev error and the system hangs. anyone else experiences this? |
| 09:44.52 | themill | OpenTokix: oh, sorry... you're right. need new glasses |
| 09:44.56 | OpenTokix | themill: well, he can always touch the folders |
| 09:44.58 | zitter | babilen, multicd seems to be what I need... thanks :) |
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| 09:46.06 | munack | it is intermittent, out of five boots, i may get a running system. |
| 09:46.14 | kryl | OpenTokix, what can I do with dependency if I remove mysql-common ? |
| 09:46.15 | themill | kryl: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall "~n^mysql-~i" |
| 09:46.24 | kryl | wow :) |
| 09:46.47 | OpenTokix | themill: You came back in a big way =) |
| 09:46.50 | babilen | k-man: There is documentation on the grub wiki about that file. It is configured in /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub |
| 09:46.54 | themill | (that's assuming you've still got the mysql-* packages installed) |
| 09:47.09 | themill | OpenTokix: this coffee is finally kicking in |
| 09:47.10 | k-man | babilen: ok, thanks |
| 09:47.16 | babilen | k-man: But what are you trying to achieve? |
| 09:47.34 | kryl | themill, nice ! |
| 09:47.35 | babilen | zitter: great :) |
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| 09:48.04 | kryl | but nobody is supposed to know that lol (I hope) |
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| 09:54.07 | k-man | babilen: what i want to do is move from a single drive to a raid1 array, i have created the array and copied all the files across |
| 09:54.22 | k-man | but setting up grub to boot off it is a bbit tricky it seems |
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| 09:54.55 | evoluciondj | I have a computer in a wifi lan and I need to make it accessible from the outside. my adsl modem is ZyXEL P660HW-D1 who can help me configuring ports for this configuration? my computer must serve RTMP streams |
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| 09:56.23 | rvsjoen | evoluciondj: portforward.com look for your model |
| 09:56.45 | zitter | babilen, not so great... it doesn't work very well with DVDs... I'm trying mondorescue now |
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| 10:00.00 | sohum | I'm trying to install the ourdelta mysql packages from http://ourdelta.org/debian, and I'm getting an error that looks like "insserv: Service mysql-ndb has to be enabled to start service mysql". Any ideas? |
| 10:01.03 | nsadmin | evoluciondj so you really want to expose your external connection to unknown wireless clients? |
| 10:01.25 | nsadmin | you don't have a different (wired) machine that can do the same thing? |
| 10:02.13 | kryl | sohum, what is ourdelta ? :) |
| 10:02.40 | sohum | kryl: they patch mysql with the oqgraph engine, which I want to play with :) |
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| 10:05.04 | nsadmin | what;s oqgraph? |
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| 10:06.17 | sohum | nsadmin: http://openquery.com. precis: a thing that behaves like a database engine (like InnoDB) but actually efficiently implements graphs and graph queries. |
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| 10:07.15 | nsadmin | so trees are doable |
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| 10:07.35 | sohum | yerp. |
| 10:07.41 | sohum | if I could get it /installed/ |
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| 10:09.01 | nsadmin | wait, innodb is actually a full engine that directly handles queries? |
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| 10:09.57 | kryl | sohum, it's cool |
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| 10:10.51 | sohum | kryl: sorry, what is? |
| 10:11.12 | nsadmin | it! |
| 10:11.29 | kryl | oqgraph |
| 10:11.48 | kryl | I never heard about it and it seems to be "cool" :) |
| 10:12.00 | sohum | kryl: :) |
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| 10:17.18 | sohum | so no ideas on that error message? |
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| 10:20.28 | nsadmin | well it seems like it's trying to find a file in /etc/init.d whose purpose is to be an executable that starts/stops a service |
| 10:20.50 | niklaswe | hello guys how are you? |
| 10:21.40 | nsadmin | I'm ok |
| 10:22.00 | cast | ponders why that rice cake tasted more salty than the rest |
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| 10:22.42 | sohum | nsadmin: so it isn't a system configuration thing? i.e., not /my/ fault? :P |
| 10:22.43 | moetunes | wonders about casts' future health... |
| 10:23.05 | cast | are rice cakes bad? |
| 10:23.22 | nsadmin | not sure it ever was your fault... |
| 10:23.37 | nsadmin | not sure "fault" is applyable |
| 10:23.40 | moetunes | everything except quarterpounders can go bad |
| 10:24.17 | sohum | nods |
| 10:24.23 | nsadmin | if you're going to pound a quarter, you need a big hammer |
| 10:24.34 | sohum | now, if launchpad would actually let me log in, I could report the bug |
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| 10:25.22 | vadmeste | Hi. Any way to find to which package a given file (example : /bin/loadkeys) belongs ? |
| 10:25.43 | cast | dpkg -S /bin/loadkeys |
| 10:25.43 | dpkg | Package: /bin/loadkeys: Status: install ok installed |
| 10:26.15 | vadmeste | cast, thanks |
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| 10:29.41 | babilen | vadmeste: also apt-file |
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| 10:30.35 | vadmeste | thanks babilen |
| 10:30.47 | Mowee | Salut :] |
| 10:31.22 | nsadmin | vadmeste and judd |
| 10:31.32 | nsadmin | judd, file bin/loadkeys |
| 10:31.37 | judd | bin/loadkeys in lenny/i386: console-tools: bin/loadkeys; kbd: bin/loadkeys, usr/bin/loadkeys |
| 10:32.00 | vadmeste | thanks nsadmin |
| 10:32.02 | vadmeste | :) |
| 10:32.28 | nsadmin | take your pick... and judd can do more than just that. |
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| 10:48.18 | bigpresh | Quick question: Anyone known MySQL to refuse to start, claiming insufficient space on the partition with /var/lib/mysql, when there's actually plenty? |
| 10:48.27 | bigpresh | The actual error produced is: /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! failed! |
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| 10:49.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | how much space is on /var/lib/mysql ? |
| 10:49.41 | bigpresh | Haha, I've just found the problem; the problem is that /var/lib/mysql doesn't exist, not that there's not enough space |
| 10:50.07 | bigpresh | (I copied it over from the old machine but forgot to rename it into place) |
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| 10:50.34 | bigpresh | So, disregard me :) It's still a misleading error, though; checking for the existence (and appropriate permissions) of /var/lib/mysql would make sense |
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| 10:52.00 | {g} | Hey People! Anybody who has an idea, why rdiff-backup sometimes reports old unchanged files as changed? |
| 10:52.03 | {g} | trash: filedate is 2006. diff shows no difference. |
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| 10:54.20 | Ox90 | Hi guys, im having some trouble building iscsitarget from source on lenny running 2.6.32. dpkg-buildall tries to run; make -C usr clean. The error produced is make: *** usr: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 10:54.47 | Ox90 | don't suppose anyone would have an idea about building this module? |
| 10:55.52 | cristi8 | Ox90: tried /usr instead of usr ? |
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| 10:57.44 | hid3 | Hello everyone. I'm running lenny, have a sound card, have the volume control icon in the taskbar but I can't hear any sounds. Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot sound system problems? |
| 10:57.56 | Ox90 | i have, it complains about not having rules for making /usr clean |
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| 10:58.26 | themill | Ox90: there's something very ugly about that Makefile. |
| 10:59.17 | moetunes | hid3: is everything turned up in alsamixer? |
| 10:59.44 | hid3 | moetunes: yes |
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| 11:00.53 | Ox90 | i was wondering if i had unpackaged it in the wrong place, its currently under /usr/src/modules, apt-get put the source in /usr/src |
| 11:01.00 | JyZyXEL | is there a way to make any window you want transparent? |
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| 11:03.08 | hid3 | Any ideas? |
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| 11:04.00 | moetunes | hid3: what's the sound card? |
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| 11:04.47 | moetunes | hid3: lspci will tell |
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| 11:05.31 | hid3 | moetunes: it's 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller |
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| 11:05.55 | hid3 | and I have snd_hda_intel module loaded |
| 11:06.45 | moetunes | heh intel hd - there's issues with that apparently |
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| 11:09.36 | hid3 | oh crap... |
| 11:09.42 | cosmodad | does dh_perl resolve Perl module dependencies as well? I looked at the man-page but I'm not sure... |
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| 11:09.55 | hid3 | Seems I won't have any sounds :( |
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| 11:12.13 | K0JIbKA | :) |
| 11:13.43 | cristi8 | hid3: check out http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=47667 (u can start with the latest post ) |
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| 11:17.05 | hid3 | Thanks. Seems it's time to backport... |
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| 11:18.17 | hid3 | Debian is buggy :( I can't turn off the blinking cursor in terminal as well.. The solution also was to backport to newer version but I didn't suceed :( |
| 11:18.18 | Lantizia | HEY! Can you help here? Situation: Lots of music with filenames that have odd symbols like รยต รยฉ and even : as well... now these are fine on ext3/4 and sharing via NFS... but when I drag them to my USB FAT formatted phone or MP3 player... obviously they won't copy... is there a solution to this? (while keeping my files named properly?) |
| 11:19.15 | Lantizia | so perhaps some clever method of copying that automatically takes care of the symbols the destination filesystem can't handle and picks something else |
| 11:19.31 | Lantizia | like รยฉ to e and รยต to u and : to - or something? |
| 11:19.39 | hid3 | !tell me about sumple sid backport |
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| 11:19.51 | hid3 | !tell me about simple sid backport |
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| 11:24.45 | EduardeCalibal | Hello. Someone know how I shutdown the auto-run for xsane? |
| 11:25.00 | micols_ | is it possible for an openvpn server to allow only routes to one host on a network? |
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| 11:26.29 | EduardeCalibal | I think this question about openspn is possible but I dont know how make it. :-/ |
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| 11:32.26 | EduardeCalibal | micols_, maybe if you put your server in a isolated network and put a second interface (virtual) in the host is possible have only this route. If is what you need... |
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| 11:32.54 | micols_ | EduardeCalibal: need some way to interact with OWE on linux |
| 11:33.05 | micols_ | without wine crap etc. |
| 11:33.43 | micols_ | EduardeCalibal: the problem is that the server is on the same net as other servers |
| 11:33.49 | Ox90 | Chaps, just want to clear something up, uname -r give me 2.6.32-trunk-amd64, when using m-a, should i be using the linux-headers-2.6.32-3-all-amd64 package? |
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| 11:35.16 | EduardeCalibal | micols_, the use of a route with a point to point connection solve it? |
| 11:35.29 | EduardeCalibal | Maybe use a persistent connection for it. |
| 11:36.22 | micols_ | EduardeCalibal: the client could setup a direct route, but that would still void the production environment as it is on the same net and the client could set up route to them if it wished |
| 11:37.16 | micols_ | server is on same net as any other server, and if openvpn pushes out one route, the client is allowed to add further routes to internal servers in the production environment? |
| 11:37.44 | micols_ | hm think not, the point is there would have to be a separate vpn for exchange then |
| 11:37.45 | EduardeCalibal | Ok, then is possible to you change the IP and mask and make a virtual network inside the real, with virtual interfaces and, in this virtual network only one route is possible. |
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| 11:38.59 | micols_ | ok, like ifconfig eth1:1 inet 10.0.52.254, ip route add 10.0.52.51 dev eth1:1 , push route 10.0.52.51 using dev1:1 out using openvpn |
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| 11:39.41 | EduardeCalibal | Sorry, I need go. Cya. |
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| 11:41.28 | hid3 | How do I permanently set an interface (eth0) to force use 10-FullDuplex speed? |
| 11:41.36 | micols_ | ethtool |
| 11:41.45 | hid3 | Is it the only way? |
| 11:41.45 | micols_ | but mostly if youre using intel |
| 11:41.53 | hid3 | Will changes be lost after a reboot? |
| 11:42.00 | micols_ | it is one way, and yes they will |
| 11:42.31 | hid3 | Oh.. I guess I need to do something like a pre/post-up script ion my interfaces file.. |
| 11:42.37 | micols_ | also note that autoneg will not work then |
| 11:42.45 | micols_ | autoneg is only for when both ends use autoneg |
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| 11:43.36 | hid3 | Should I alter the autoneg setting with ethtool too or is it enough jsut to set the speed? |
| 11:44.23 | micols_ | switch, and both ends should be set at 10Fdx if you chose to |
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| 11:45.07 | micols_ | else you might get duplex errors, like mysterious packetloss or bandwidth problems |
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| 11:45.32 | micols_ | so make sure none of the sides use autoneg |
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| 11:46.47 | Stereo | most hardware should support autoneg |
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| 12:14.18 | blouf | hi |
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| 12:14.49 | blouf | any information about the sid developpement level actually ? |
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| 12:16.23 | rudi_s | !tell blouf about sid |
| 12:17.18 | Rienzilla | Hi |
| 12:18.06 | Rienzilla | Could anyone help me out a little on debian hardware support? I'm wondering if I could run debian on a routerboard 450G (http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb450g.pdf). Any ideas on that? (it seems to be a mips architecture) |
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| 12:19.32 | blouf | still in unstable |
| 12:20.06 | blouf | when doing a network install, which repo are used ? the stable, tested or unstable one ? |
| 12:20.43 | Shadur | blouf: Whichever one you downloaded the netinst image from, unless you already edited /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:20.49 | the-dude | blouf: depends on which installer you picked |
| 12:21.18 | blouf | yeah but by default which are used while still doing the install ? |
| 12:21.39 | the-dude | ^ |
| 12:21.44 | blouf | netinst doesn't let u choose the repo u want |
| 12:21.51 | themill | !u |
| 12:21.51 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 12:22.07 | the-dude | either stable or testing |
| 12:22.14 | themill | blouf: yes it does. And the default is going to depend on which image you grabbed. |
| 12:22.19 | Matic`M | If jdk1.6 is installed with .bin (not debian packet) - what would be the correct way to remove the thing completly? |
| 12:22.20 | Shadur | That depends on whether you downloaded the netinst client from "stable" or "testing". But I think it takes quite a bit of effort to find the testing netinst image. |
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| 12:22.27 | Matic`M | Is there an"uninstall" switch or so? |
| 12:22.33 | wols | Matic`M: ask oracle, not us |
| 12:22.39 | blouf | yeah i do know, Queen Elizabeth II won't hate for that |
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| 12:22.50 | Matic`M | wols: it's debian! |
| 12:22.50 | willian | hi, my flash drive isn't working: http://paste.uni.cc/20580 . gparted doesn't recognize it, mount neither! |
| 12:22.57 | wols | Matic`M: your jdk isn't |
| 12:23.30 | wols | willian: you sure the stick isn't broken/dead? |
| 12:23.44 | willian | nops |
| 12:24.02 | willian | if it is broken, is there a way to recover it |
| 12:24.04 | willian | ??? |
| 12:24.06 | themill | Matic`M: the documentation that came with the installer should know. Failing that, ##java might be able to help |
| 12:24.57 | wols | willian: yes there is. you go to a shop and buy a new one |
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| 12:25.29 | willian | wols, it isn't a nice answer |
| 12:25.38 | willian | but thank anyway wols... |
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| 12:27.39 | blackpenguin | willian: try overwriting the first sector with zeroes using dd. if it's still not recognized with fdisk then, i dont think its fixable. |
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| 12:31.20 | MrTorque | hi |
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| 12:32.07 | MrTorque | why am i not able to send messages in #mac or #macosx? it says: "cannot send to channel"... |
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| 12:32.39 | adb | here to have a registered user |
| 12:32.51 | adb | s/ here/have |
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| 12:33.30 | MrTorque | adb: thanks adb. I'll try to register. |
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| 12:43.35 | K0JIbKA | have Debian Lenny installed at netbook with only 8 Gb SSD (no harddisk). Question: is it possible to widen disk space with SD memory card by assigning it to /usr WITHOUT reinstall process? |
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| 12:44.12 | tomi | hi |
| 12:44.29 | tomi | when squeeze will be freezed? |
| 12:44.39 | K0JIbKA | '/usr' ONLY |
| 12:45.19 | Titan8990 | !wwsr |
| 12:45.19 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
| 12:45.36 | K0JIbKA | 'how to' if you please... |
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| 12:47.47 | d3x | K0JIbKA, preferably boot some livecd, copy all contents of /usr to memory card, edit /etc/fstab, reboot to regular system. if everything works, remove /usr from main drive |
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| 12:48.46 | K0JIbKA | d3x: thanks! appreciate that! |
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| 12:55.25 | K0JIbKA | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html <Bits from the release team: Release schedule; the RT needs YOU> How to participate? Sorry guys, no programming experience at all:-D |
| 12:55.57 | K0JIbKA | !squeeze bet |
| 12:55.57 | dpkg | To add a bet to the squeeze pool, /msg dpkg squeeze pool 1 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when squeeze pool 1 is filled, create squeeze pool 2 and update this factoid. |
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| 12:57.29 | Titan8990 | K0JIbKA: I would contact them and ask like the post says |
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| 13:09.28 | erxz_paste | "rindolf" at 71.6.194.243 pasted "Can you reproduce this bug? KDE / Linux" (27 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/24486 |
| 13:09.52 | rindolf | Hi all. Can anyone try to reproduce http://erxz.com/pb/24486 ? |
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| 13:11.07 | d3x | rindolf, it should damage my computer, should it? :) |
| 13:11.22 | d3x | nor crash kde or X |
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| 13:11.30 | rindolf | d3x: no, it won't. |
| 13:11.48 | rindolf | d3x: if it does, then you should definitely report it! |
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| 13:11.59 | chellomere | rindolf, is it important that you run KDE 4? |
| 13:12.00 | rindolf | d3x: but KDE and X are perfectly fine here after that. |
| 13:12.13 | d3x | rindolf, ok, i'll give it a try |
| 13:12.15 | rindolf | chellomere: Zombie says he could not reproduce it elsewhere. |
| 13:12.20 | rindolf | d3x: thanks! |
| 13:12.30 | chellomere | ok, sorry, not running kde |
| 13:12.38 | d3x | (kde 4.4.2 here) |
| 13:12.41 | Titan8990 | mandriva? thats not even based on debian |
| 13:12.44 | rindolf | chellomere: OK. |
| 13:12.49 | rindolf | Titan8990: it's not, that's the point. |
| 13:12.51 | Titan8990 | nor is there 4.x in the debian stable release |
| 13:13.01 | rindolf | Titan8990: we're trying to reproduce it elsewhere. |
| 13:13.08 | rindolf | Titan8990: but there is in Testing and Unstable. |
| 13:13.24 | rindolf | Rebooting this machine will be too time consuming for me and will neutralise me. |
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| 13:13.42 | chellomere | rindolf, I tried installing and running it anyway, and prboom complains about no iwad found. do I need one? does it make any difference which one? |
| 13:13.45 | rindolf | has a Debian partition. |
| 13:13.50 | jelly | !moo |
| 13:13.50 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/basis-link/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 13:13.58 | rindolf | chellomere: you need Freedoom. |
| 13:14.08 | rindolf | chellomere: I can reproduce it with Freedoom. |
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| 13:14.20 | rindolf | chellomere: thanks, as well. |
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| 13:14.37 | d3x | everything works |
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| 13:15.01 | rindolf | d3x: do you mean you cannot reproduce this bug? |
| 13:15.11 | chellomere | rindolf, xfce here, I got glibc errors with MALLOC_CHECK_=1 |
| 13:15.12 | d3x | yup |
| 13:15.16 | d3x | works perfectly |
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| 13:15.25 | rindolf | chellomere: I see. |
| 13:15.26 | chellomere | and crash with MALLOC_CHECK_=2 |
| 13:15.28 | d3x | although i don't know if it should run windowed or full screen |
| 13:15.30 | rindolf | chellomere: oh. |
| 13:15.41 | rindolf | d3x: it is running windowed here. |
| 13:15.47 | rindolf | chellomere: interesting, thanks. |
| 13:15.55 | rindolf | chellomere: Debian Unstable? |
| 13:16.05 | chellomere | rindolf, testing and prboom 2:2.5.0+dfsg1-5 |
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| 13:16.17 | rindolf | chellomere: I see. |
| 13:16.20 | chellomere | rindolf, would the errors be useful to you? |
| 13:16.22 | rindolf | chellomere: thanks. |
| 13:16.32 | rindolf | chellomere: I guess. Please pastebin them. |
| 13:16.34 | d3x | prboom 2:2.4.7+dfsg-5 |
| 13:16.43 | et | invite jarskaaja |
| 13:16.54 | d3x | i can try 2.5.0 |
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| 13:18.21 | abrotman | is gnome2.30 in lenny yet? |
| 13:18.48 | rindolf | abrotman: isn't Lenny Debian Stable? |
| 13:18.50 | d3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.51 | d3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.00 | abrotman | rindolf: it was a joke |
| 13:19.09 | d3x | abrotman, didn't get it... |
| 13:19.24 | rindolf | abrotman: ah, heh. |
| 13:19.43 | Titan8990 | d3x: info on gnome 2.30 was on slashdot today and we have this factoid: |
| 13:19.45 | Titan8990 | !sns |
| 13:19.45 | dpkg | Shiny New Shite Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 13:19.47 | rindolf | abrotman: GNOME 2.30 was in Debian Potato! |
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| 13:19.56 | Titan8990 | huh... |
| 13:20.01 | Titan8990 | !factinfo sns |
| 13:20.01 | dpkg | sns -- created by beardy <n=beardy@unaffiliated/beardy> at Tue May 6 08:37:36 2008 (695 days); it has been requested 138 times, last by Titan8990, 16s ago. |
| 13:20.03 | chellomere | rindolf, http://pastebin.com/pSHyxxtF |
| 13:20.08 | rindolf | chellomere: thanks. |
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| 13:20.12 | chellomere | rindolf, np |
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| 13:20.47 | rindolf | chellomere: hmmm... I see you're on a 64-bit machine. |
| 13:20.53 | rindolf | chellomere: is it x86-64? |
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| 13:21.02 | d3x | rindolf, me too, amd64 |
| 13:21.04 | chellomere | rindolf, yup |
| 13:21.09 | rindolf | d3x: OK. |
| 13:21.14 | rindolf | d3x: I have a 32-bit x86. |
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| 13:21.38 | xiaowei | clear |
| 13:21.44 | beardy | Mhm. |
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| 13:22.05 | d3x | 2.5.0 works ok too, no allocation errors, no crashes |
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| 13:22.45 | rindolf | chellomere: yes, it's similar to what I got (minus the different addresses). |
| 13:23.40 | chellomere | rindolf, with MALLOC_CHECK_=2, gdb and a debug build of prboom, it should be trivial to get a backtrace |
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| 13:24.07 | itom | http://www.kernel.org/ happy first april :) |
| 13:24.08 | rindolf | chellomere: yes. |
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| 13:24.30 | rindolf | itom: heh. |
| 13:24.40 | d3x | itom, sooo... 2009 |
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| 13:25.01 | rindolf | itom: http://fc-solve.blogspot.com/ |
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| 13:25.04 | abrotman | !ot |
| 13:25.04 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 13:25.09 | micols_ | debian dsa rss feed url is? |
| 13:25.14 | micols_ | michael@mfs:~% r2e run |
| 13:25.14 | micols_ | E: error in "www.debian.org/security/dsa" feed (<unknown>:2:-1: Document is empty |
| 13:25.39 | itom | rindolf: funny ::D |
| 13:25.41 | rindolf | <link rel="stylesheet" href="kernel-flip.css" type="text/css" /> |
| 13:25.44 | rindolf | itom: :-) |
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| 13:25.55 | chot | hi |
| 13:25.58 | micols_ | also how do i make such that security.debian.org only is accessed via ipv4 ?, not ipv6, ipv6 fails to connect there but i can ping6 it fine and my ipv6 is working |
| 13:26.04 | abrotman | micols_: works fine here when clicking on the link |
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| 13:26.15 | rindolf | itom: I also saw this: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg58086.html |
| 13:26.24 | abrotman | rindolf: #debian-offtopic |
| 13:26.38 | rindolf | abrotman: OK, sorry. |
| 13:26.38 | micols_ | abrotman: weird, are you sure it is valid rss? |
| 13:26.42 | itom | http://www.debian.org/ so serious.. |
| 13:26.48 | rindolf | abrotman: "he started it! He started it!" |
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| 13:26.51 | abrotman | micols_: my browser tries to have me subscribe to it |
| 13:26.55 | abrotman | rindolf: great, end it |
| 13:26.59 | chot | already tried this in #tomcat, but no answer, so trying here: can't get my tomcat installation to work with ssl. normal http works fine. i'm trying to connect to it localy so shouldn't be any firewall problems, anybody got any idea what might be wrong? |
| 13:27.08 | rindolf | OK. This bug is strange. |
| 13:27.11 | micols_ | abrotman: must be r2e that is broken then somehow |
| 13:27.23 | abrotman | micols_: try another RSS reader to double check |
| 13:27.54 | Titan8990 | chot: tomcat is an apache module, right? did you enable the ssl site with a2ensite? |
| 13:28.04 | abrotman | not a module |
| 13:28.10 | Titan8990 | framework? |
| 13:28.13 | chot | Titan8990: what abrotman said |
| 13:28.22 | abrotman | you can use a module to have apache communicate with tomcat |
| 13:28.40 | Titan8990 | abrotman: is it actually a replacement http daemon? |
| 13:29.05 | abrotman | not quite |
| 13:29.39 | chot | think they've got their own web server implementation in java |
| 13:30.49 | chot | and as far as i've understood all i have to do is download the bin from apache.org and extract it, run the startup script and it should work, and it does for http but not for https for some strange reason (i've followed the ssl guide on tomcats webpage to enable ssl ofcourse) |
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| 13:31.48 | Titan8990 | chot: your saying you did not use debian packaged software? |
| 13:31.50 | chot | there's no "internal" port filter or something on debian (i'm not the one who installed this machine)? |
| 13:32.11 | chot | Titan8990: i used it at first, but someone at #tomcat told me i shouldn't so i switched |
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| 13:33.00 | Titan8990 | chot: upstream will always tell you to use their method. the distro will always tell you to use theirs. typically, those communities only support based off that as well |
| 13:33.05 | abrotman | chot: then #tomcat should be helping you |
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| 13:33.52 | chot | abrotman: yupp agree, but they're not, just hopeing someone in here has an idea |
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| 13:34.23 | abrotman | chot: personally, i'd go back to the debian package .. and then work from there .. in general, you'll have to have the apache/tomcat stuff working on http first, then try to get https working |
| 13:34.42 | chot | abrotman: i got it working for http both was already |
| 13:34.50 | abrotman | chot: so does https work for just apache? |
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| 13:35.27 | chot | abrotman: well apache shouldn't make any difference should it? since they are running their own web server? |
| 13:35.37 | chot | though i did install mod_ssl just to be sure |
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| 13:36.01 | chot | never checked if it worked alright though |
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| 13:36.21 | abrotman | might be a good step |
| 13:36.42 | cantido | where is the debian version number kept? I know the release name is in /etc/debian_release.. but I need the number |
| 13:36.44 | abrotman | chot: it's been awhile since i've done the apache/tomcat dance, but ISTR that getting apache working correctly first was an important step |
| 13:36.47 | chot | hm just to be sure; links should handle ssl right? it's what i'm using to test it "links https://localhost:8443" |
| 13:37.00 | Stereo | cantido: /etc/debian_version |
| 13:37.10 | chot | abrotman: alright, i'll give that a try, thanx |
| 13:37.41 | cantido | Stereo: ah, sorry confused something elese.. /etc/debian_vesion has the version name.. I need a number |
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| 13:38.05 | Stereo | what does yours contain ? |
| 13:38.14 | Stereo | squeeze/sid? |
| 13:38.22 | cantido | yes |
| 13:38.32 | Stereo | then you're in testing, which isn't released yet |
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| 13:38.39 | Stereo | and therefore has no version number |
| 13:38.43 | wols | !version |
| 13:38.44 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 13:38.49 | Stereo | it'll probably be debian 6 |
| 13:39.27 | chellomere | may of course also be sid he's running |
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| 13:40.07 | cantido | Stereo: ok, so when squeeze is released debian_version will change to a number? |
| 13:40.16 | Stereo | yah |
| 13:40.30 | cantido | I'm hacking up someone else's perl script that needs a number for its crappy os detection |
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| 13:41.13 | rindolf | cantido: isn't there a CPAN module for that? |
| 13:41.29 | chellomere | cantido, if your sources.list says squeeze, yes. if it says testing, you'll be tracking the next testing. |
| 13:41.34 | cantido | rindolf: I'm not really a perl person.. which is probably half the issue ;) |
| 13:41.42 | rindolf | cantido: ah. |
| 13:41.48 | rindolf | cantido: use CPAN. |
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| 13:42.01 | rindolf | cantido: http://search.cpan.org/ |
| 13:42.04 | cantido | well, I can fudge it.. I'll just look for that string and fake the version number |
| 13:42.11 | rindolf | cantido: :-( |
| 13:42.23 | cantido | rindolf: this isn't for serious use ;) |
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| 13:42.27 | wols | why would anyone want a debian version number? makes no sense |
| 13:42.31 | rindolf | cantido: does this script have "use strict;" and "use warnings;"? |
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| 13:43.04 | rindolf | wols: you have a point. |
| 13:43.08 | cantido | wols: this script tries to work out what os it is and then a version number and compares them against a table of good oses and version numbers |
| 13:43.19 | rindolf | cantido: heh. |
| 13:43.32 | cantido | so at the moment its looking for a system of "rhel" or "freebsd" and then some number |
| 13:43.35 | rindolf | cantido: it sounds funny and sad at the same time. |
| 13:44.19 | cantido | well, it should really just be checking if the utils it needs are right |
| 13:44.22 | cantido | but there you go |
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| 13:45.07 | cantido | it does all sorts of nasty stuff like fiddling with the resolver config |
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| 13:46.41 | rindolf | cantido: whoa. |
| 13:46.44 | chellomere | cantido, huh. what is that thing? |
| 13:47.02 | cantido | mm I dont think I can actually say |
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| 13:48.21 | cantido | anyhow I want to hack it up enough that it'll do its thing inside a chroot |
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| 13:49.07 | rindolf | cantido: did you find this script on the Internet or is it an inhouse one? |
| 13:49.42 | cantido | no comment ;) |
| 13:50.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.43 | Littleboy | what kind of program similar in linux like flash in windows? |
| 13:50.49 | rindolf | Littleboy: Flash. |
| 13:50.51 | rindolf | Littleboy: or GNASH. |
| 13:51.09 | rindolf | Littleboy: are you using a 64-bit version of Debian? |
| 13:51.11 | cantido | adb: well it reckons it supports debian-6.x now |
| 13:51.17 | cantido | hohoho |
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| 13:51.55 | rindolf | Littleboy: well, there are also SVG and HTML 5 which are similar to Flash, but not compatible. |
| 13:52.28 | Littleboy | i am use ubuntu 9.10 but you know, its debian distro |
| 13:53.02 | xyan | you are doing it wrong! you should have typed /j #ubuntu then |
| 13:53.40 | abrotman | Littleboy: please go to #ubuntu for support |
| 13:53.50 | Littleboy | ok |
| 13:53.58 | Littleboy | thx |
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| 14:07.20 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 14:07.20 | dpkg | <trueno> Hi! Is there any good substitute for MS WebExpression in Linux? <Supaplex> it wastes money. sorry, linux doesn't have a lot to offer there. |
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| 14:08.37 | DogBoy | morning |
| 14:08.42 | rindolf | Hi DogBoy |
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| 14:09.19 | DogBoy | I don't get the thing with dpkg, people get kicked for pasting here but dpkg can be evoked for all kind of stuff of a frequently dubious nature |
| 14:10.10 | cantido | DogBoy: if people could paste.. they would start pasting thousand line long logs etc |
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| 14:10.38 | DogBoy | I know, I thought the idea was to keep everything out of peoples logs but the good stuff |
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| 14:11.24 | MrTorque | what chenges if i set unix extensions = no in smb.conf? |
| 14:11.27 | DogBoy | there is a lot of good stuff there in dpkg but so much repetition in the logs and a lot of it is just nonsense |
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| 14:12.39 | Plouj | hi guys |
| 14:13.02 | Plouj | how do I force a apt to not upgrade a package beyond a particular version (currently installed)? |
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| 14:13.11 | Plouj | is there something like dpkg-divert for whole packages? |
| 14:13.18 | xyan | apt-get hold <package> |
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| 14:13.30 | xyan | or with pinnning to that specific version |
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| 14:13.53 | xyan | !tell Plouj about pinning |
| 14:14.11 | ajcc | !tell ajcc about pinning |
| 14:14.16 | philabucket | hello everyone : ) |
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| 14:14.42 | rindolf | Hi philabucket |
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| 14:15.04 | Plouj | xyan: it doesn't explain _how_ to pin packages |
| 14:15.18 | Plouj | also, my apt-get manpage doesn't mention how the "hold" command is to be used |
| 14:15.20 | xyan | man apt_preferences |
| 14:15.28 | xyan | thought the links there would lead to some documentation |
| 14:15.51 | xyan | in short you have a Pin: version <version of your package> |
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| 14:15.54 | llutz | Plouj: aptitude hold <package> |
| 14:15.57 | abrotman | !tell Plouj about hold |
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| 14:24.47 | SuperMiguel | to what page i can load an .sh so i can wget it? |
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| 14:25.39 | wols | SuperMiguel: btw, are you a coforums user? |
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| 14:25.47 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | hi people |
| 14:25.56 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | i have problems un lenny with the sound |
| 14:26.03 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | before i havent got any probles |
| 14:26.06 | SuperMiguel | wols, ocforums? |
| 14:26.09 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: which problem exactly? |
| 14:26.17 | SuperMiguel | wols, yup :) |
| 14:26.24 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | but no i cant see the speaker and i cant lisen somthing with the headphones |
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| 14:26.38 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | n alsamixer only i see master and pcmi |
| 14:26.46 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: you mean you can't hear the speaker. |
| 14:26.54 | wols | SuperMiguel: and you are running debian? |
| 14:26.57 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: can you try using kmix? |
| 14:27.02 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | i can lisen in the notenook |
| 14:27.05 | Plouj | bah, I think "E: Invalid operation hold" means my apt-get is too old |
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| 14:27.09 | wols | actual debian, not mint, ubuntu or so? |
| 14:27.17 | wols | !hold |
| 14:27.17 | dpkg | hmm... hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Note that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager and Synaptic), but aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. |
| 14:27.18 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | but if i connect oter speaker i cant lisen it |
| 14:27.30 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | rindolf, i go to try |
| 14:27.37 | SuperMiguel | wols, ya i run debian :) |
| 14:27.41 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: ok. also see its menus. |
| 14:27.50 | rindolf | Maybe it got muted accidentally. |
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| 14:28.01 | Plouj | !tell Plouj about hold |
| 14:28.07 | wols | Plouj: it means you try to use the wrong command |
| 14:28.10 | wols | !tell Plouj about selftell |
| 14:28.31 | Plouj | sorry |
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| 14:28.37 | draeath | I just got the multiarch CD to boot via a USB drive. My question is how do I get the debian-installer to look on it for files? It wants a cdrom, and pointing it to the /dev/sdXX for the USB drive doesn't work as it tries to mount with iso9660 |
| 14:28.48 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | rindolf, i thing that is not the problem |
| 14:29.01 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | beacuse when i connect the speakers, the music still sound |
| 14:29.16 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | in k mix i see the same only master and pcmi |
| 14:29.20 | draeath | ... or do I need to just drop the ISO on the stick, mount that manually, and then setup a /dev/loop# for the installer? |
| 14:29.47 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: ah, you have a problem only hearing using your earphones? |
| 14:29.55 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | yeah |
| 14:30.15 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: OK. |
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| 14:30.28 | Rastafari | My Totem is showing the subtitles too slowly what can I do to fix it ? |
| 14:30.30 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: have you tried these earphones with a different audio output source? |
| 14:30.39 | rindolf | Rastafari: hi. |
| 14:30.47 | rindolf | Rastafari: what are your machine's specs? |
| 14:30.59 | wols | SuperMiguel: you need to clarify your question a bit |
| 14:31.05 | babilen | !tell draeath -about usb install |
| 14:31.07 | Rastafari | what the hell is spec |
| 14:31.12 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | rindolf, i try pulseaudi and alsamixer, and nothin |
| 14:31.12 | rindolf | Rastafari: specification. |
| 14:31.18 | eshat | ries is not working since ... 1 week ? |
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| 14:31.23 | Rastafari | I dont know |
| 14:31.27 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: I meant - do the earphones work? The physical device. |
| 14:31.29 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | rindolf, but before working good! |
| 14:31.30 | babilen | draeath: You have to place the ISO *file* on the stick |
| 14:31.33 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: the analogue one. |
| 14:31.40 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | rindolf, all hardware is ok |
| 14:31.43 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | is software |
| 14:31.48 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: ah. |
| 14:32.07 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | i use debian lenny, |
| 14:32.10 | draeath | babilen: thanks, looking over that link now |
| 14:32.11 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e_: can you try plugging in your earphones instead of the speakers instead of to them? |
| 14:32.34 | rindolf | Rastafari: then find out. |
| 14:32.34 | bl4ckc00k1e_ | mmm i go to try find someplugin for earphones |
| 14:32.38 | babilen | draeath: Follow "The easy method" |
| 14:32.43 | Rastafari | rindolf: what difference it make |
| 14:32.44 | Rastafari | My Totem is showing the subtitles too slowly what can I do to fix it ? |
| 14:32.55 | draeath | babilen: looking over this, this doesn't seem to give me multiarch though :( |
| 14:32.59 | rindolf | Rastafari: is it a P3? P4? Duo Core? Cure Duo? Quad Core? SPARC? Alpha AXP? |
| 14:33.07 | wols | draeath: there is no debian "multiarch" |
| 14:33.10 | Rastafari | something between those |
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| 14:33.18 | rindolf | Rastafari: heh. |
| 14:33.27 | babilen | draeath: No, you create a installer with an ISO of your choice. I am not familiar with multiarch, sorry |
| 14:33.31 | rindolf | Rastafari: "I have a computer." |
| 14:33.32 | draeath | explain this wols: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/multi-arch/ |
| 14:33.34 | rindolf | Rastafari: OK. |
| 14:34.01 | rindolf | "Guess which word I'm thinking about." |
| 14:34.03 | babilen | draeath: But that is the officially supported way for installing from USB. And i'm also not aware of multiarch :-\ |
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| 14:34.30 | rindolf | Rastafari: but your computer is otherwise fast, right? |
| 14:34.32 | draeath | babilen: heh :) |
| 14:34.33 | draeath | thanks |
| 14:34.35 | babilen | draeath: Ah, you mean those. :) |
| 14:34.41 | tariqc | anyone have experiance with software raid-1 on debian? |
| 14:34.44 | rindolf | Rastafari: have you tried playing the subtitles directly with xine or mplayer or whatever? |
| 14:34.50 | nae | what's the best way to manage what runs at each run level with the new dependency based boot system. I used to use sysv-rc-conf, is there something similar? |
| 14:34.54 | tariqc | i got a fresh install and its very slow |
| 14:35.09 | Rastafari | rindolf theres mplayer on debian? |
| 14:35.10 | wols | nae: what new boot system? |
| 14:35.20 | wols | ,versions mplayer |
| 14:35.21 | judd | mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3; sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1; squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100313-0.0; sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100325-0.0 |
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| 14:35.38 | babilen | nae: Makes no difference |
| 14:35.39 | rindolf | Rastafari: yes. |
| 14:36.03 | rindolf | Rastafari: you can run mplayer on your toaster. |
| 14:36.20 | Rastafari | how |
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| 14:36.34 | wols | you solder a usb interface to it first |
| 14:36.35 | rindolf | Rastafari: that was a hyperbole. |
| 14:37.04 | d3x | rindolf, was it? you can run freebsd on a toaster |
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| 14:37.10 | d3x | therefore - you can run mplayer ;) |
| 14:37.10 | rindolf | d3x: well, kinda. |
| 14:37.14 | rindolf | d3x: yes. |
| 14:37.22 | Rastafari | holy sacred crap |
| 14:37.23 | Rastafari | how ? |
| 14:37.26 | nae | wols: I thought something changed. but it seems I'm wrong |
| 14:37.28 | rindolf | d3x: someone ported Linux to a computer the size of an Ethernet jack. |
| 14:37.32 | d3x | (or was it netbsd?) |
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| 14:37.57 | bl4ckc00k1e__ | rindolf, nothing.... |
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| 14:38.03 | nae | babilen: right, thanks |
| 14:38.22 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e__: you don't hear anything? |
| 14:38.34 | sepult | does anyone know which package netconfig.h belongs to ? |
| 14:38.47 | d3x | rindolf, not really spectacular. i'm waiting for a computer the size of sand seed (?) |
| 14:38.51 | wols | sepult: dpkg -S does |
| 14:39.08 | rindolf | d3x: sand speck. |
| 14:39.20 | rindolf | sand grain. |
| 14:39.24 | rindolf | dust speck. |
| 14:39.26 | sepult | wols: yes but i don't have netconfig.h, and some c source file is referring to it |
| 14:39.28 | d3x | rindolf, thanks |
| 14:39.35 | rindolf | d3x: you're welcome. |
| 14:39.36 | wols | sepult: package.debian.org or apt-file |
| 14:39.36 | bl4ckc00k1e__ | rindolf, in the headphones, nothing |
| 14:39.40 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e__: ah. |
| 14:39.41 | sepult | ok |
| 14:39.44 | d3x | polish 'ziarno' translates to seed as well as grain :) |
| 14:39.51 | bl4ckc00k1e__ | RichiH, and i dont know if i isntall the correct plugin |
| 14:40.01 | babilen | !tell d3x about apt-file |
| 14:40.02 | bl4ckc00k1e__ | earphones |
| 14:40.06 | rindolf | bl4ckc00k1e__: and the speakers work? |
| 14:40.08 | DogBoy | Rastafari, maybe the subtitles really do run slower than they are supposed to |
| 14:40.13 | babilen | d3x: apt-file searches packages that are not installed as well |
| 14:40.15 | rindolf | d3x: I see. |
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| 14:40.25 | Rastafari | you are a genius DogBoy |
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| 14:40.36 | DogBoy | actually I am |
| 14:40.40 | d3x | babilen, but i know it, why do you tell me this? :) |
| 14:40.41 | DogBoy | how did you know |
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| 14:40.49 | DogBoy | get some better subs Rastafari |
| 14:40.59 | babilen | d3x: ENICK, sorry :-\ |
| 14:41.00 | bl4ckc00k1e__ | RichiH, the speaker of th notbook works, but the exernal i connect and the music of the speaker still working |
| 14:41.09 | babilen | !tell sepult about apt-file |
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| 14:41.36 | stuckey | judd: versions wine |
| 14:41.39 | judd | wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-2; squeeze: 1.0.1-2; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
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| 14:41.55 | stuckey | Is there a backport for a less ancient version of wine anywhere? |
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| 14:42.24 | Titan8990 | judd: versions wine |
| 14:42.25 | judd | wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-2; squeeze: 1.0.1-2; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 14:42.28 | DogBoy | have you tried looking for better subs Rastafari |
| 14:42.38 | Rastafari | no , but I will try |
| 14:42.41 | rindolf | Rastafari: yes, I had lots of problems with subtitles too. |
| 14:42.52 | Titan8990 | stuckey: nope, not even really newer in squeeze/sid |
| 14:42.53 | rindolf | Ones that I downloaded at least. |
| 14:43.22 | DogBoy | I am kind of a subtitle self proclaimed expert |
| 14:43.24 | DogBoy | heh |
| 14:43.38 | DogBoy | what language are you looking for Rastafari |
| 14:44.13 | DogBoy | and why are you using totem, isn't that the player in ubuntu |
| 14:44.23 | Rastafari | portuguese-br |
| 14:44.31 | Titan8990 | judd: versions totem |
| 14:44.31 | judd | totem -- etch: 2.16.5-3; lenny: 2.22.2-6; sid: 2.28.5-2; squeeze: 2.28.5-2; experimental: 2.29.92-1 |
| 14:44.41 | Titan8990 | DogBoy: totem is in debian |
| 14:44.49 | DogBoy | yea I know Titan8990 |
| 14:45.02 | DogBoy | it's also the default movie player in ubuntu |
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| 14:45.39 | DogBoy | did you try looking here Rastafari http://www.opensubtitles.org/ |
| 14:46.32 | Rastafari | DogBoy: capitalist website |
| 14:46.47 | DogBoy | what does that mean |
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| 14:48.29 | _Dave123_ | WHat would be the best way to zip put all files in an archive of the dir you are currently in (and all subdirs) |
| 14:49.17 | Titan8990 | _Dave123_: zip -r foobar.zip *, IIRC |
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| 14:50.04 | _Dave123_ | thanks |
| 14:50.06 | rindolf | Titan8990: better do zip -r ../foobar.zip |
| 14:50.17 | _Dave123_ | rindolf: why |
| 14:50.18 | rindolf | Or else there may be something cyclical. |
| 14:50.28 | rindolf | _Dave123_: oh wait no. |
| 14:50.29 | _Dave123_ | ahhh |
| 14:50.37 | rindolf | _Dave123_: because foobar.zip is not included in *. |
| 14:50.47 | rindolf | But you need to do zip -r ../foobar.zip . |
| 14:50.53 | DogBoy | also it depends on what you intend to do with the zip file |
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| 14:51.14 | ziarkaen | IS linux-image the package name #for the kernel? |
| 14:51.17 | DogBoy | did you mean zip specifically or just as a way of saying compress generically |
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| 14:51.35 | _Dave123_ | specifically |
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| 14:51.45 | _Dave123_ | just need to archive some contents of webdirs |
| 14:51.59 | DogBoy | because a zip file is not going to have as much information included as doing it with say tar and gz for example |
| 14:52.13 | wols | ziarkaen: no. the version is also needed |
| 14:52.43 | wols | ziarkaen: linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:52.47 | DogBoy | your question did say "best" |
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| 14:53.21 | eshat | I am afraid my whole sid box will change, when ries is up agains. Maybe there are going to be about 1000 Upgrades |
| 14:53.23 | ziarkaen | Oh right, the installer was DLing kernel-image-2.26-..., thought it must be. |
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| 14:54.59 | stuckey | Someone please tell me how I can disable the system-beep on tab-complete? |
| 14:55.09 | stuckey | This is the *most* annoying thing I have ever experienced. |
| 14:55.19 | stuckey | And NO, xset -b does not stop it. Nor does rrmmod pcspkr |
| 14:55.26 | stuckey | Or xset -b off |
| 14:55.34 | wols | beep |
| 14:55.36 | wols | !beep |
| 14:55.36 | dpkg | beep is, like, echo -ne 'a', or aptitude install beep, or ask me about <bell>, <qotd89>. For the audio player, ask me about <bmp>. For the protocol framework, see http://beepcore.org/ |
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| 14:55.44 | wols | oh yes, bell it is |
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| 14:56.14 | wols | !tell stuckey about bell |
| 14:56.56 | pyqwer | Hi, has anybody experience in setting up an IPSec tunnel with racoon? I got it running, but can't ping, Debian tries to route the packages over my default route instead of the tunnel. Any clues why? |
| 14:56.57 | stuckey | wols: no that didn't work |
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| 14:57.20 | themill | stuckey: you've never troubled yourself to tell us what application it is that is making the beep |
| 14:57.55 | stuckey | themill: It's in xterm. |
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| 14:58.44 | themill | stuckey: precisely what xset command did you use? Because the ones you claimed didn't work aren't the ones that dpkg has told you about. |
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| 14:59.49 | urs | Hey all, who of you is the guy sitting accross from me at Helsinki airport, with a Debconf 7 T-Shirt on? |
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| 15:00.10 | wols | why don't you just walk over and ask? |
| 15:00.11 | hawken | Hey people :) |
| 15:00.16 | hawken | Gentoo is awesome |
| 15:00.33 | jelly | hawken: it is! Do you have a Debian support question? |
| 15:00.45 | wols | yes. the gentoo trolls are first rate. what they lack in knowledge, they make up in spamming techniques |
| 15:00.48 | hawken | I just wanted to say, Bye debian :D |
| 15:00.49 | format_c | wols, could be too conservative |
| 15:00.53 | format_c | :) |
| 15:00.57 | jelly | hawken: good luck. |
| 15:01.00 | hawken | :p |
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| 15:02.24 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 15:02.34 | format_c | I walked over from Gentoo to Debian. Lets wait until he's bothered by the compilation times. |
| 15:02.43 | ZenWalker | when squeeze is freezing? |
| 15:02.52 | abrotman | urs: IIRC DC7 was in helsinki .. so could be tons of people |
| 15:02.55 | abrotman | !tell ZenWalker about wwsr |
| 15:03.23 | urs | abrotman: nope, it was in edinburgh |
| 15:03.36 | ZenWalker | thanjs |
| 15:03.47 | abrotman | urs: oh, guess that was DC5 ? feeble mind |
| 15:03.53 | micols_ | anyone know if it is possible using wildcards for holding back openoffice* , i tried apt pinning and holding with set selections ? |
| 15:03.54 | abrotman | 6 was in .mx |
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| 15:04.24 | stuckey | iceweasel also makes this noise |
| 15:04.26 | stuckey | I think all programs do it |
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| 15:04.36 | micols_ | pyqwer: use ip route add to add a route then |
| 15:04.45 | simplechat | hey, is there any way to force unmount a disk? |
| 15:04.45 | stuckey | I've listed the command which didn't work |
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| 15:05.08 | micols_ | pyqwer: paste your /sbin/route -n somewhere , and your /sbin/ifconfig |
| 15:05.08 | simplechat | i've got a random terminal session open from another machine, the person isn't actually using the disk, he's just idling on it, and i need to unmount it |
| 15:05.11 | wols | stuckey: obviously the command won't work when you are unable to type it in correctly... |
| 15:05.12 | simplechat | i'm not sure what to do though :( |
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| 15:05.29 | micols_ | simplechat: fuser -k |
| 15:05.34 | micols_ | will find and kill him :) |
| 15:05.36 | simplechat | fuser -k? |
| 15:05.38 | simplechat | ah |
| 15:05.38 | wols | simplechat: you can log him out and then unmoun it |
| 15:05.40 | simplechat | force unlog |
| 15:05.42 | simplechat | cool |
| 15:05.43 | simplechat | thanks |
| 15:05.51 | simplechat | and that will stop the disk from being busy? |
| 15:06.03 | micols_ | yes, you can also lsof|grep mountpoint , kill the pid |
| 15:06.14 | micols_ | it is busy due to persons using the mountpoint |
| 15:06.18 | micols_ | or idling there. |
| 15:06.34 | stuckey | Does anyone know how to disable the system beep? I'm getting this very loud beep in xterm/iceweasel |
| 15:06.46 | stuckey | Someone has to know |
| 15:06.50 | wols | stuckey: answer themill |
| 15:06.53 | micols_ | xset perhaps |
| 15:06.55 | stuckey | I don't even know where this came from. My computer has never done this |
| 15:06.55 | micols_ | it has a bell option |
| 15:06.58 | stuckey | xset doesn't work |
| 15:06.59 | stuckey | I've tried that |
| 15:07.00 | jelly | dpkg, tell stuckey about bell |
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| 15:07.05 | micols_ | try alsamixer |
| 15:07.06 | themill | dpkg: tell stuckey about doesn't work |
| 15:07.08 | stuckey | no it isn't bell I've tried that too |
| 15:07.13 | micols_ | or remove pcspkr module |
| 15:07.39 | wols | stuckey: what EXACTLY did you try? the things you told us were wrongly written |
| 15:07.43 | jelly | stuckey: have you... read that factoid fully, and the factoids it links to as well? |
| 15:07.43 | simplechat | thanks guys :d |
| 15:07.47 | stuckey | :) |
| 15:08.03 | abrotman | haven't you all realized that stuckey doesn't actually read? |
| 15:08.11 | stuckey | oh abrotman |
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| 15:08.56 | jelly | abrotman: there is always hope |
| 15:09.32 | massmc | if all else fails, put paper in floppy drive |
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| 15:12.18 | pyqwer | micols_: Here is my configuration: http://nopaste.info/1b16b6b8fe.html |
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| 15:13.14 | micols_ | pyqwer: that is neither ifconfig nor route -n |
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| 15:13.55 | micols_ | you said your tunnel work and you only had a routing problem , please paste ifconfig, route |
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| 15:14.42 | micols_ | usually it is as simple as "apt-get install iproute; ip route add 88.117.202.154 dev tunnelifname" |
| 15:15.19 | jelly | and much simpler if iproute2 is already installed! |
| 15:15.56 | pyqwer | micols_: Here's the ifconfig/netstat -nr http://nopaste.info/88f9414ec9.html |
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| 15:16.26 | pyqwer | micols_: Yes, there's no special route for the tunnel, and also no interface - but I thought that racoon does this by itself? |
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| 15:17.34 | fluorine | hi, is there a reason why i'm seeing "option xyz=5" lines from menu.lst amongst the boot messages? |
| 15:17.39 | micols_ | you could also try route add -host 88.117.202.154 gw x.x.x.x dev tunnelifname |
| 15:17.49 | micols_ | that would be the old way |
| 15:18.17 | pyqwer | micols_: But I have no tunnel interface? Can't put eth1 as interface, can I? |
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| 15:19.21 | micols_ | how do you know it is up then? |
| 15:19.42 | micols_ | usually you need an interface for a tunnel, i.e. sit0, tun0 |
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| 15:20.29 | pyqwer | micols_: From the logfile in /var/log/daemon, it tells me INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP/Tunnel 83.64.146.251[500]->88.117.202.154[500] spi=1637823165(0x619f32bd) |
| 15:20.55 | pyqwer | micols_: And the other side (a Zyxel VPN gateway) also tells me that the tunnel is built. |
| 15:21.55 | krion | hey guys |
| 15:22.16 | krion | just to be sure, is the latest kernel in the lenny-installer 2.6.26-2-amd64 . |
| 15:22.23 | krion | ? |
| 15:22.43 | krion | because i need the lenny-installer with at least 2.6.26-18 |
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| 15:29.34 | micols_ | is it possible to use debian installer completely without gui nonsense? |
| 15:29.40 | micols_ | even expert install uses gui |
| 15:29.59 | krion | when you say gui you talk about ncurses ? |
| 15:30.06 | krion | you could start a shell |
| 15:30.19 | krion | and then debootstrap yourself i guess |
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| 15:30.32 | micols_ | yep, but i would still see ncurses first :) |
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| 15:30.56 | micols_ | and i am used to debotstrapping that is why ncurses annoy me |
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| 15:31.15 | micols_ | only debootstrap when i connect to usb-ide adapter. |
| 15:32.39 | micols_ | would be nice to use debian as rescue for spawning shell, without looking at ncurses first |
| 15:32.53 | micols_ | that would be editing the initramfs image i think |
| 15:32.59 | micols_ | if i wanted to remove it |
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| 15:33.41 | micols_ | grml is even slower than debian, but it is nice when it has booted after 2minutes or so. |
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| 15:35.26 | micols_ | pyqwer: i believe you just have to add a route to the endpoint host directly, using eth1 (assuming that is your out device) |
| 15:35.56 | micols_ | ip route add 83.64.146.251 via 88.117.202.154 dev ethX |
| 15:36.27 | micols_ | perhaps add scope host, but i think that iproute is smart enough to figure that out, check with route -n afterwards |
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| 15:40.18 | pyqwer | micols_: No, unfortunately not - and I don't think I need a route, when looking at this: http://www.kame.net/newsletter/20001119/ |
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| 15:41.07 | pyqwer | micols: No, unfortunately not - and I don't think I need a route, when looking at this: http://www.kame.net/newsletter/20001119/ |
| 15:41.29 | pyqwer | So the kernel should figure this out via the SPD and not via the routing table - if I understand it right. |
| 15:41.56 | micols | usually the kernel needs to be told a route via the routing table or it doesn't understand much |
| 15:42.36 | pyqwer | micols: True. |
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| 15:53.34 | zitter | hi, is there a way to divide directory in smaller parts (for example, a 6Gb dir in parts of 4350Mb each) ? |
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| 15:54.14 | choig | Umm... I (squieeze) installed from a USB thumb and Grub2 thought it was a good idea to put Grub2 on the mbr of the thumb instead of the HD. Now my knowledge of how Grub2 works doesn't exist yet. So how do I movie it from /dev/sdb to /dev/sda? |
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| 16:03.27 | markl_ | is this still the right way to build source packages: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b |
| 16:03.39 | markl_ | i saw it on a page that was marked "obsolete" |
| 16:04.05 | markl_ | but that command still seems to do a great job |
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| 16:06.25 | jhutchins_lt | I was going to find a creative method to do my last install, but I never got around to the net boot setup and my thumb drive is missing so I just did a netinst CD. |
| 16:06.56 | jhutchins_lt | choig: grub2 is still running ahead of it's documentation. |
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| 16:08.52 | Mick27 | what is the advantage of a -trunk kernel in a squeeze machine ? |
| 16:08.54 | choig | jhutchins, yeah... i've noticed that |
| 16:08.58 | Mick27 | if there is any |
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| 16:10.20 | abrotman | Mick27: your kernel is out of date |
| 16:11.11 | Mick27 | what do you mean ? |
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| 16:12.10 | abrotman | Mick27: uname -r .. says what ? |
| 16:12.50 | Mick27 | says that i'm using a kernel with -trunk in it |
| 16:13.05 | Mick27 | well my install is fresh from this morning so I guessed it was the last one |
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| 16:13.13 | pyqwer | micols: Got it - a SPD rule is missing for the gateway itself. Pinging works from the network behind, but not from the gateway... |
| 16:13.22 | abrotman | Mick27: make sure you install the kernel metapackage for your architecture |
| 16:13.29 | pyqwer | micols: Thanks for help! |
| 16:13.33 | Mick27 | abrotman, will do |
| 16:13.35 | jelly | !tell Mick27 about kernel abi |
| 16:14.02 | Mick27 | thx jelly |
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| 16:14.18 | abrotman | Mick27: AKA .. the -trunk- are obsolete |
| 16:14.19 | micols | pyqwer: i see now you already had a route in your route -n :) |
| 16:14.22 | Mick27 | hmm why is the netinst from squeeze still installing the trunk kernel ? |
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| 16:14.38 | Mick27 | I rebooted on 2.6.32-3-686 |
| 16:14.40 | abrotman | Mick27: they may not have updated it yet .. depends which one you used |
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| 16:14.49 | Mick27 | is that better ? |
| 16:15.33 | micols | anyone know if that futex oops in linux-2.6 can be exploited by normal users? |
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| 16:15.39 | micols | or only for fs mount/umount ? |
| 16:15.48 | ngomes | is updates master ftp fixed ? |
| 16:16.07 | micols | or can futex of the one that causes oops be generated in userspace with normal privilege users |
| 16:16.11 | abrotman | !ries |
| 16:16.11 | dpkg | ries.debian.org is the server behind ftp-master.debian.org (the main copy of the Debian archive). It is currently experiencing hardware trouble, resulting in a temporary suspension of package updates for <testing> and <unstable> systems. http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=ries http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/03/msg00010.html . Ask me about <dda>. |
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| 16:16.23 | jelly | Mick27: yeah, that's definitely newer than 2.6.32-trunk-686 |
| 16:16.38 | Mick27 | jelly ok thanks ! |
| 16:17.09 | ruben23 | hi,what happened is during boot up it force scanned the vol001 then found inconsistency then it says- to do manually repir fsck. |
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| 16:18.02 | babilen | Mick27: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568160 |
| 16:18.25 | babilen | Mick27: easiest way is to remove the -trunk- package. Not sure if you are already aware of this, but wanted to mention the bug |
| 16:19.01 | Mick27 | babilen, yeah, that was my though that grub was doing it wrong |
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| 16:23.37 | format_c | I currently try to build the latest stable kernel using make-kpkg. But I get the Error "UTS Release version does not match current version" which comes from the Debian scripts. |
| 16:24.07 | format_c | Is there a way to work around this issue? |
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| 16:25.01 | format_c | I've seen a former issue as the UTS_RELEASE constant moved from include/linux/version.h to include/linux/utsrelease.h in 2.6.18 |
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| 16:25.16 | format_c | But now even the utsrelease.h file doesn't exist. |
| 16:27.10 | Titan8990 | format_c: latest stable in debian or upstream? |
| 16:27.28 | format_c | upstream |
| 16:27.34 | format_c | 2.6.33 |
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| 16:28.35 | format_c | Ah but I right now I found a debian bughttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561569 |
| 16:29.25 | wols | format_c: pastebin the exact full error |
| 16:29.42 | wols | IIRC you need to add the version info to version.h or such |
| 16:30.00 | wols | the current sid kernel-package might have a fix for this already |
| 16:30.04 | Titan8990 | wols: there are patches to kernel-package included in that bug report |
| 16:30.41 | format_c | wols, http://paste.debian.net/66983/ |
| 16:30.57 | format_c | Titan8990, is it possible to apply that patch without moving to sid ? |
| 16:31.08 | format_c | I'm currently running lenny |
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| 16:32.10 | Titan8990 | format_c: what is wrong with the stock or backports kernel? |
| 16:32.14 | Titan8990 | judd: kernels |
| 16:32.15 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 16:32.43 | Titan8990 | backports has .32, does it have to be .33? |
| 16:32.52 | format_c | Since the affected file is a plaintext it should no problem to patch it. |
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| 16:34.00 | format_c | I try to dig into module programming. Therefore I want to use a vanilla kernel making also some optimizations in configuration. |
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| 16:35.03 | kolpur | how to access the applications in system tray with keyboard ?? |
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| 16:35.33 | rvsjoen | format_c: can't you just symlink the file so it _does_ exist ? |
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| 16:37.19 | format_c | rvsjoen, Jep this works also. Thx |
| 16:38.32 | ziarkaen | Does "allow-hotplug eth0" in interfaces file automate network connection upon cable plugin, wheras "auto eth0" will only do it at startup? |
| 16:38.45 | format_c | rvsjoen, this will even remain when cleaning the debian specifics using make-kpkg clean |
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| 16:41.38 | rvsjoen | you tested it ? |
| 16:41.50 | Titan8990 | ziarkaen: yes |
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| 16:42.32 | ziarkaen | Thanks. Is "network 192.168.0.0" necessary? One guide has it; another does not. |
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| 16:43.46 | llutz | ziarkaen: if netmask and IP-address are given, network isn't necessary |
| 16:43.48 | Titan8990 | ziarkaen: no, I think it can figure out the network address even if you don't specify it |
| 16:43.54 | Titan8990 | ziarkaen: doesn't hurt to include it |
| 16:44.24 | ziarkaen | OK. And after edits I run /etc/init.d/networking restart? DNS seems down, although resolv.conf is properly configured... |
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| 16:45.53 | nejucomo | When I add the experimental repo to sources.list then aptitude update I get the following error: "W: GPG error: http://packages.debian.org experimental Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2" |
| 16:46.04 | nejucomo | Do I need to add a public key? Where is it? |
| 16:46.13 | ziarkaen | Wait a sec, forgot to add static IP to router. Sorry for noob mistake. |
| 16:46.26 | nejucomo | I've searched for "debian experimental archive key" and similar, but no luck yet. |
| 16:46.44 | nejucomo | Also, this site seems down: http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
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| 16:52.24 | npoektop | hi! when i do not touch my laptop for about an hour, everything slows down dramatically. When i reboot, i can use youtube and skype. After an hour of idle, those two can not even play sound smoothly. I have two terminals with top and vmstat running, but they do not show anything unusual. Also I did cpufreq-set -g performance. Any ideas? |
| 16:53.04 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: ideas? |
| 16:53.04 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of condoms, a little sauerkraut, and 42 starving oxen. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 16:53.38 | jhutchins_lt | npoektop: How's the cpu temperature? |
| 16:53.51 | npoektop | jhutchins_lt, it's ok |
| 16:53.54 | jhutchins_lt | npoektop: Any noticibly high-cpu processes? |
| 16:54.14 | jhutchins_lt | npoektop: when you query cpufreq, does it show the processor at full speed? |
| 16:54.22 | npoektop | no, just opera, skype |
| 16:54.26 | npoektop | yes, full speed |
| 16:54.34 | jhutchins_lt | npoektop: When the system slows down, is it swapping? |
| 16:54.42 | jelly | npoektop: using flash in opera? |
| 16:54.47 | npoektop | no, lots of memory |
| 16:54.48 | jhutchins_lt | npoektop: If you kill skype - and/or opera for that matter, does that make a difference? |
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| 16:55.32 | npoektop | i've just killed them both, but no difference |
| 16:56.57 | krushik | btw, doing 'pkill -STOP opera' when u don't need it and 'pkill -CONT opera' later is very useful |
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| 16:57.54 | jelly | krushik: I do the same with firefox-bin, too :-( |
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| 16:58.29 | npoektop | when i run top, it shows that top runs about 2 %cpu. Is it normal? |
| 16:58.45 | npoektop | krushik, i've just tryed, but no difference |
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| 16:59.50 | devious | Does Opera use nspluginwrapper? |
| 16:59.57 | ziarkaen | I have to manually add default route (with gateway) to get network running. Where is the correct place to auto setup the roots at boot-time. I'm used to other distro's network scripts setting these up. |
| 17:00.13 | krushik | npoektop, you should look at %id at top output |
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| 17:00.38 | krushik | (idle) |
| 17:00.58 | Titan8990 | ziarkaen: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:01.37 | npoektop | devious, yes, it does use nspluginwrapper, but after reboot it runs just smoothly |
| 17:02.02 | npoektop | krushik, %id shows about 95 |
| 17:03.15 | Titan8990 | ziarkaen: man interfaces, look at "gateway" |
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| 17:04.12 | ziarkaen | I have the gateway defined in there, but after reboot only my local network exists in kernel routing table; no default one. |
| 17:04.13 | peterrooney | npoektop: yes, that's normal. |
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| 17:04.49 | devious | npoektop: I've seen similar behaviour to what your describing from nspluginwrapper, have you tried killling it manually after closing Opera? |
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| 17:06.09 | npoektop | ps aux does not show any nspluginwrapper now when i killed opera |
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| 17:07.17 | Fro-BIS | hello everybody |
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| 17:09.22 | Fro-BIS | i got a problem with my debian (sid), i want to use the debian kernel, but i got problem (kernel cant find mount point (9,1). Actually i use my old kernel which i compile before and wanted some easy up to date kernel |
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| 17:09.32 | Fro-BIS | i use lilo and initrd, i put md1 under the initramfs-tools/modules.conf |
| 17:09.45 | Fro-BIS | but i allways have a kernel error |
| 17:09.59 | Fro-BIS | if someone have an idea, because i find nothing under the web |
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| 17:10.27 | Fro-BIS | (and i got another question about using busybox, i can use it before or after the kernel error ?) |
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| 17:11.45 | linduxed | is it just me or has pastebinit stopped working after the pastebin.com redesign? |
| 17:12.27 | linduxed | i dont get a link to pastebin.com/xxxxxxx when i do a pastebinit, i just get pastebin.com |
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| 17:14.12 | Titan8990 | linduxed: try changing the pastebin service with -b |
| 17:14.22 | Titan8990 | linduxed: if it works, create an alias |
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| 17:15.38 | linduxed | Titan8990: well, ive tried that and it seems to work with one |
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| 17:15.41 | linduxed | yourpaste |
| 17:15.43 | linduxed | but still |
| 17:15.56 | linduxed | one out of suposedly 6 supported? |
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| 17:16.01 | vlt | !info t38modem |
| 17:16.27 | linduxed | sorry, 8 supported |
| 17:16.33 | dpkg | t38modem: (T.38 Fax over IP pseudo modem), section comm, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-2+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 126 kB, Installed size: 324 kB |
| 17:16.41 | linduxed | well rafb.net is down |
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| 17:21.41 | isfranc1 | have make rm on file in ext3, have idea for recovery this file ? |
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| 17:26.28 | babilen | isfranc1: Not really possible - If you want to try: http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ecarlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html |
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| 17:30.00 | solifugus | Question: how can I get copy of real firefox? the default debian iceweasel gives "stylescans do nothing in webkit/firefox" messages on every page of a certain web app I need to work with. |
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| 17:31.10 | ukl | hello #debian. given I have 1557 packages installed, using sid, what could be a reason for no new/upgradable packages since sunday? |
| 17:31.17 | npoektop | ok, simpler question: how to switch to a text terminal when i use DontVtSwitch option in xorg.con? |
| 17:31.20 | dkr | solifugus: debian source packages always include the original source... you coul drecompile. although you might just need to change your user-agent string to make that webapp happy |
| 17:31.50 | zumbi | ukl: no much uploads, ftp-master is down |
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| 17:32.02 | jelly-home | ukl: it's in the topic. |
| 17:32.15 | dkr | npoektop: run an xterm, :) |
| 17:32.31 | ukl | zumbi: oh, I see. haven't found anything regarding this on planet debian... (or I overlooked it) |
| 17:32.32 | wols | solifugus: what version of iceweasel do you run? |
| 17:32.37 | babilen | solifugus: It is probably easier to just change your user agent. There is a plugin for that .. |
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| 17:33.03 | zumbi | ukl: should follow debian-devel-announce instead planet |
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| 17:33.20 | abrotman | ukl: /topic ? |
| 17:33.32 | babilen | ukl: It was announces on debian-devel-announce |
| 17:33.38 | babilen | !tell ukl about d-d-a |
| 17:33.38 | solifugus | wols: 2.22.3 |
| 17:33.41 | npoektop | no really, i mean i can't do ctrl+alt+f1, so what might help when i use DontVtSwitch? |
| 17:34.15 | dkr | npoektop: disablinig ctl-alt-fn is the whole point of that option... |
| 17:34.17 | ukl | thanks everyone :) |
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| 17:34.39 | onur_ | Hi. I am searcing for a while but I didn't get any clear result and I dont have any chance to try this. Should I use xen kernel such linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-686 when installing debian to xen guest (DomU)? |
| 17:34.52 | wols | ,versions iceasel |
| 17:34.54 | wols | ,versions icewasel |
| 17:34.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'iceasel' was found. |
| 17:34.56 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'icewasel' was found. |
| 17:35.00 | wols | ,versions iceweasel |
| 17:35.02 | judd | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.8-1~bpo50+2; sid: 3.5.8-1; squeeze: 3.5.8-1 |
| 17:35.16 | wols | solifugus: note how there is no "2.22.3" |
| 17:35.19 | SerajewelKS | onur_: yes |
| 17:35.34 | onur_ | thank you SerajewelKS |
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| 17:35.50 | npoektop | dkr, yeah, but comment for that option says it's for freeing those combinations of keys |
| 17:35.58 | SerajewelKS | onur_: np |
| 17:36.05 | babilen | solifugus: Are you sure that you are not using epiphany? |
| 17:36.12 | babilen | ,versions epiphany-browser |
| 17:36.14 | judd | epiphany-browser -- etch: 2.14.3-8; lenny: 2.22.3-9; squeeze: 2.29.3-1; sid: 2.29.92-1 |
| 17:36.18 | dancor | is it true that in xlockmore and not in xscreensaver you can you a different password from your login password? |
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| 17:36.25 | dancor | s/you can you/you can use/ |
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| 17:36.26 | dkr | npoektop: do you have dontvtswitch set to true or false? |
| 17:36.39 | npoektop | dkr, true |
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| 17:37.07 | dkr | npoektop: well, it needs to be false if you want to be able to switch to text consoles with ctl-alt-Fn |
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| 17:37.27 | agur | Can anyone help me find out how to set the physical size of my monitor with xrandr 1.3? I'm having large problems navigating in a web-browser |
| 17:37.28 | dkr | (it is kind of silly to have negative options) |
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| 17:37.50 | npoektop | i do not want to switch them with ctrl-alt-fn. i want to switch to tty another way |
| 17:38.34 | solifugus | babilen: It's the default browser with debian lenny installed and updated just last week. |
| 17:38.57 | solifugus | with gnome desktop |
| 17:39.03 | babilen | solifugus: Than it is probably epiphany (which is the default browser in Gnome) - Try it with Iceweasel |
| 17:39.09 | SerajewelKS | agur: "apt-cache search xrandr" indicates that there might be a tool in x11-xserver-utils to do this |
| 17:39.13 | dkr | npoektop: you can't is the point. I make a linux distro for use in public kiosks and that option is how we prevent people accessing a text console |
| 17:39.26 | SerajewelKS | agur: otherwise, if you are in gnome, just use the screen resolution / display preferences utility |
| 17:39.31 | dkr | npoektop: hrm, well maybe if you already have root and you launched getty yourself |
| 17:39.58 | agur | SerajewelKS: Can you give me some more help, the screen borders is far outside the monitor |
| 17:40.02 | agur | I'm in xfce |
| 17:40.26 | solifugus | babilen: ok.. iceweasel does the same thing. |
| 17:40.46 | SerajewelKS | agur: hmm, usually when that happens you can scroll the desktop by moving the mouse around... |
| 17:40.49 | babilen | solifugus: Try changing the user agent - There is a plugin for that .. |
| 17:40.50 | solifugus | interesting that it installs two default browers |
| 17:41.06 | solifugus | babilen: yeah.. trying to go throough that process right now |
| 17:41.11 | babilen | solifugus: something like "user agent switcher" |
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| 17:41.20 | agur | SerajewelKS: Doesn't work now. The resoltion is correct, but the physical size reported from xrandr isn't |
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| 17:42.34 | npoektop | dkr, i just did it with #chvt 0 :) |
| 17:42.55 | SerajewelKS | agur: i guess i'm not really understanding what you mean |
| 17:43.23 | agur | If you run 'xrandr' from a terminal, I get some information about the output signal |
| 17:43.34 | agur | HDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm |
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| 17:44.07 | dkr | npoektop: ah, I was just looking for that command. obviously you already have a shell to run that, though |
| 17:44.23 | agur | The monitor supports that resolution, but for some reason the output on the screen goes outside the physical border |
| 17:44.25 | SerajewelKS | agur: does "man xrandr" not give you information on how to adjust the incorrect values? |
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| 17:44.37 | agur | Not that I can see |
| 17:44.45 | SerajewelKS | agur: this may be a driver problem then, not an xrandr problem |
| 17:45.08 | agur | Xrandr can fix it, or rather, it could fix it in earlier versions |
| 17:45.20 | dkr | npoektop: aptitude search vt shows a lot ofpackages, heh. and actually chvt is in "kbd" package, guess I wouldn't have found it searchign that way anyway, heh |
| 17:45.22 | SerajewelKS | agur: by adjusting the resolution? |
| 17:45.36 | npoektop | dkr, you thought i'm cracking a kiosk now and asking how to get to tty? ) |
| 17:45.59 | agur | With the option --prop <x>x<y> you could set the physical size of the monitor, but --prop doesn't exist in v1.3 |
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| 17:46.50 | SerajewelKS | agur: it looks like you want --fbmm perhaps? |
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| 17:47.21 | Blackhold | hi |
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| 17:47.53 | babilen | welcome |
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| 17:48.16 | Blackhold | I'm syncronizing 2 servers with unison, but something goes wrong, the sincronizing must be in both directions, cause there are permanently changes in both disks |
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| 17:48.47 | solifugus | babilen: screw the plugin.. there were instructions on just how to go in and change it manually.. much easier |
| 17:48.56 | solifugus | that fixed it |
| 17:48.56 | babilen | solifugus: hehe :) |
| 17:48.58 | Blackhold | but I have moved folders from one folder to an other, and in the other server don't moves (or deletes and creates) the changes |
| 17:49.09 | babilen | solifugus: Great - You should file a bug with that web application |
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| 17:49.13 | scurnoid | hello all... :-) |
| 17:49.22 | babilen | solifugus: It's user agent handling is broken |
| 17:49.37 | solifugus | babilen: I have been assigned to work on this app.. so I guess I might be fixing it myself.. |
| 17:49.45 | babilen | solifugus: ooops :) |
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| 17:49.55 | SerajewelKS | yeah, first rule of thumb in web dev: don't use the user-agent string for any logic whatsoever |
| 17:50.01 | solifugus | babilen: but just starting to get to know it at this point |
| 17:50.19 | Blackhold | I have 3 servers that serve the same pages/content and must be identical, I'm working for a system of servers that one server checks the bandwith of other servers and then it gives you to the server is less charged |
| 17:50.36 | zoredache | I have a tricky question. if I do an `ip show route table all` it displayes a different default route for my comcast table then what I see if I do a `ip route show table comcast` http://paste.debian.net/66994/ |
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| 17:50.53 | babilen | solifugus: If you are doing web development you *need* the firebug plugin - Have fun and good luck. |
| 17:50.55 | Blackhold | hi babilen |
| 17:50.57 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: perhaps using something like git would be more appropriate? |
| 17:51.06 | Blackhold | mmm |
| 17:51.15 | Blackhold | git allows connecting through ssh? |
| 17:51.20 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: sure does |
| 17:51.24 | Blackhold | mmm... |
| 17:51.35 | solifugus | babilen: yes, i know... but i'm being forced to use the slow computer and tools my new work assigned me for the time being... it's really horrible |
| 17:51.40 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: think svn, but you don't need a central repository (the servers can sync with each other directly) |
| 17:51.48 | babilen | Blackhold: Hello, have we met before? |
| 17:51.49 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: plus you get all the goodness of branches and merging |
| 17:51.57 | Blackhold | then if there's a change on server1 when running git saves the changes to the other server, and the same when happens the same in server2? |
| 17:52.09 | babilen | !comfort solifugus |
| 17:52.09 | dpkg | There, there, solifugus. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:52.15 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: not quite, it's a tad more involved than that. have you used subversion before? |
| 17:52.27 | Blackhold | babilen: I don't think so, but each day I know lots of people ;) |
| 17:52.32 | babilen | Blackhold: Ah, I get it now :) |
| 17:52.39 | Blackhold | SerajewelKS: no :( |
| 17:52.48 | Blackhold | don't really knows how works |
| 17:52.54 | Blackhold | but I know what is for |
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| 17:53.11 | Blackhold | babilen: sure :) |
| 17:53.26 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: ok, well git is similar only a lot more awesome. we can move to a PM if you'd like since a git summary is a bit out of scope in #debian. |
| 17:53.36 | Blackhold | so then I go to see how to do that with svn |
| 17:53.40 | Blackhold | what you recommend me |
| 17:53.43 | Blackhold | svn or git? |
| 17:53.45 | SerajewelKS | Blackhold: no, you don't want to use svn for this |
| 17:53.55 | babilen | git ftw :) |
| 17:54.01 | Blackhold | ok... |
| 17:54.05 | Blackhold | so then git :D |
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| 17:54.19 | Blackhold | then only run the script each 5 minutes |
| 17:54.27 | Blackhold | from each server to other servers |
| 17:54.29 | Blackhold | and it is all? |
| 17:54.37 | Blackhold | or simply is live? |
| 17:54.52 | SerajewelKS | you could do this every 5 minutes if you wanted, sure |
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| 17:56.49 | Blackhold | SerajewelKS: great :) |
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| 17:59.06 | saroja | hai |
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| 17:59.52 | saroja | can any one help how to configure lan between two pc's |
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| 18:01.11 | saroja | can any one help how to configure lan between two pc's |
| 18:01.24 | saroja | can any one help how to configure lan between two pc's |
| 18:01.26 | saroja | can any one help how to configure lan between two pc's |
| 18:01.35 | dkr | I guess we can't |
| 18:03.06 | qbit_ | heh |
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| 18:06.42 | rammy | hai |
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| 18:07.54 | rammy | can any one help how to configure cross wire in debian |
| 18:08.00 | npoektop | hi again! how to disable xscreensaver? i'm using lxde |
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| 18:08.24 | wols | !tell rammy about gethelponirc |
| 18:08.32 | wols | !tell rammy about helponirc |
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| 18:08.59 | dkr | npoektop: you mean disable it temporarily while a movie is playing or permanently disable it to not start when you log in? |
| 18:09.05 | agur | BAH! I'm turning crazy. Does anyone know of a better display config for xfce? |
| 18:09.40 | rammy | wols: i need to connect 2 computers in debian using cross wire cable |
| 18:10.01 | npoektop | dkr, completely disable xscreensaver on the whole system. |
| 18:10.31 | rammy | wols: i hav cross wire |
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| 18:11.06 | kibibyte | what was the page for dummy user who dont how to use google browser |
| 18:11.08 | kibibyte | :) |
| 18:11.10 | kibibyte | ? |
| 18:11.11 | rammy | wols: r u there |
| 18:11.18 | kibibyte | animate cursor which points to google results |
| 18:11.44 | babilen | kibibyte: http://lmgtfy.com ? |
| 18:12.19 | kibibyte | yes |
| 18:12.21 | kibibyte | thx!! |
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| 18:12.34 | wols | rammy: and? |
| 18:12.48 | wols | rammy: are both machines running debian? |
| 18:13.18 | rammy | wols: yes both using debian |
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| 18:13.36 | Titan8990 | should I point out how dirt cheap a switch can be? |
| 18:13.36 | hounddog | good evening |
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| 18:13.58 | wols | rammy: set the network interface on each to static IPs. you set them via /etc/network/interfaces see man interfaces for details |
| 18:14.18 | hounddog | I have got a server system today... pentium 4... now there is no cdrom or disk available and i am opting for usb installation |
| 18:14.19 | rammy | wols: i just want to know how to configure for connection |
| 18:14.39 | Titan8990 | in fact, newegg as a *new* one for $4 |
| 18:14.39 | wols | rammy: use IPs in the 192.168.1.x subnet. and I just told you how to configure them |
| 18:14.42 | hounddog | i am wondering how i would be doing this and which files... i have downloaded the dd for windows allready |
| 18:15.02 | wols | Titan8990: US-centrism is a great thing |
| 18:15.06 | rammy | wols: i set address and netmask in /etc/network/interfaces. is it sufficient for that? |
| 18:15.14 | hounddog | but what files do i need to download for debian... there are 3 tutorials with 3 different versions here |
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| 18:15.33 | wols | rammy: yes. if you want to access each via names, you can edit /etc/hosts as well, but it's not needed |
| 18:15.38 | Titan8990 | wols: I know things can be a little more expensive in other place but it shows an example of how low priced they can be |
| 18:15.49 | wols | !tell hounddog about usb install |
| 18:15.52 | kibibyte | babilen, this thing is point now to bing fucking serach engine! |
| 18:16.04 | babilen | kibibyte: really? |
| 18:16.12 | babilen | kibibyte: hehehehe - aprils fool ;) |
| 18:16.23 | kibibyte | :d |
| 18:16.35 | kibibyte | theyve got me |
| 18:16.45 | Titan8990 | wols: the price you gave in euros on the q9400 was the same price I was looking at in USD |
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| 18:17.05 | dkr | npoektop: well aptitude remove xscreensaver will accomplish it never being run, but lxde probably has a setting somewhere that is causing it to be run per session when you log in(not familiar with lxde). |
| 18:17.10 | anoob | somebody knows about it: http://sahd.lamafam.org/?p=874? |
| 18:17.16 | rammy | wols: how to edit /etc/hosts and what to insert in it |
| 18:17.18 | wols | Titan8990: I know. and the cheapest one you can get in .de is 155 on the interwebs, and 160 locally |
| 18:17.24 | hounddog | thank you wols |
| 18:17.29 | wols | rammy: you use a normal editor |
| 18:17.31 | abrotman | anoob: go spam somewhere else |
| 18:17.31 | kibibyte | babilen, but i didnt joke! |
| 18:17.42 | kibibyte | i hope its joke from this site! |
| 18:17.45 | npoektop | dkr, thank you, i'll try to remove it |
| 18:17.51 | rammy | wols: what content to insert |
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| 18:17.59 | anoob | no, i'm not spamming |
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| 18:18.03 | anoob | i'm asking about it |
| 18:18.10 | wols | rammy: x.x.x.x name where x.x.x.x is the IP |
| 18:18.18 | abrotman | anoob: what is "it" ? |
| 18:18.18 | Titan8990 | anoob: is it related to debian? |
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| 18:18.31 | anoob | yes, it is |
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| 18:18.36 | anoob | i'm talking about debian updates |
| 18:18.38 | abrotman | anoob: /topic .. seriously |
| 18:18.41 | Titan8990 | abrotman: you click first |
| 18:18.43 | hounddog | again this tutorial expects me to have linux installed allready... |
| 18:18.45 | abrotman | why can't people even try to read the topic |
| 18:18.55 | wols | anoob: read the topic |
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| 18:20.19 | anoob | sorry guys |
| 18:20.26 | anoob | i didn't know anout it |
| 18:20.30 | anoob | about* |
| 18:20.40 | anoob | why can't you take easy? |
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| 18:22.44 | rindolf | abrotman: the second rule of UI Design is "People don't read." |
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| 18:23.04 | rammy | wols: i just edit the file /etc/network/interfaces by adding address and netmask |
| 18:23.14 | rammy | wols: but i didn't got connection |
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| 18:24.11 | wols | pastebin your interfaces file |
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| 18:26.18 | roe | any idea what I need to install for my debian box to recognize my iphone as a camera? |
| 18:26.31 | HardDisk_WP | Hey, I try to paste rrdtool.sh (http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/Docs:ModRRDTool) into my putty window (ssh on a debian lenny system with screen) and this is what I get... |
| 18:26.32 | HardDisk_WP | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4006/wtfbanana.png |
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| 18:26.51 | jelly-home | roe: can your iphone present itself as a usb video device? |
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| 18:27.07 | HardDisk_WP | is this joe-related problem or is my screen settings wrong? |
| 18:27.08 | roe | jelly-home, possibly, but I am more interested in stills |
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| 18:27.33 | SimManiac | hey guys, anyone knows why squeeze has no updates since several weeks? |
| 18:27.34 | wols | HardDisk_WP: remember unix vs. windows line endings |
| 18:27.38 | SimManiac | are they freezing or something? |
| 18:27.46 | jelly-home | roe: I blame the English language. |
| 18:27.52 | wols | SimManiac: cause you're too lazy to read the topic |
| 18:27.58 | roe | jelly-home, ?? |
| 18:27.59 | wols | SimManiac: it's all YOUR FAULT |
| 18:28.09 | SimManiac | ah, I never read topics :) |
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| 18:28.14 | SimManiac | thanks for the pointer, though :) |
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| 18:28.17 | stuckey | How do I change my timezone? |
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| 18:28.24 | jelly-home | roe: for the misunderstanding |
| 18:28.24 | HardDisk_WP | wols, yeah, but it works fine w/o screen |
| 18:28.25 | SimManiac | stuckey: get a plane ^^ |
| 18:28.35 | wols | !tz |
| 18:28.35 | dpkg | it has been said that timezone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" (Lenny, Squeeze) or "tzconfig" (Etch). Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. |
| 18:28.37 | HardDisk_WP | when sshing to a "direct" shell it works fine |
| 18:28.37 | stuckey | Oh har har har |
| 18:28.53 | HardDisk_WP | as soon as the shell is in a screen, it breaks |
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| 18:30.44 | rummy | anybody tell me about how to connet two computers in debian using cross wire connection |
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| 18:31.24 | vernick456456456 | @ rummy omg I need to know too! |
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| 18:32.10 | SerajewelKS | rummy: you mean a crossover cable? |
| 18:32.19 | abrotman | rummy: what about it don't you understand? |
| 18:32.23 | rummy | vev: yes cross wire cable |
| 18:32.29 | abrotman | rummy: what is 'uname -r' ? |
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| 18:32.50 | SerajewelKS | rummy: connect the cable, configure the network interfaces with static IPs... |
| 18:34.20 | rummy | SerajewelKS: i connected the cable first and then added address and netmask to /etc/network/interfaces. then what should i do? |
| 18:34.28 | abrotman | rummy: what about it don't you understand? |
| 18:34.33 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: That's indent matching. |
| 18:34.53 | HardDisk_WP | jhutchins, yeah but why do I experience it only behind a screen? |
| 18:34.57 | rummy | abrotman: i am not getting what you are asking me? |
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| 18:35.01 | HardDisk_WP | if i ssh directly, no prob |
| 18:35.13 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: You're in vi, right? |
| 18:35.15 | HardDisk_WP | joe |
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| 18:35.28 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: screen presents different terminal capacities. |
| 18:35.30 | HardDisk_WP | oh wait. wtf. |
| 18:35.32 | SerajewelKS | rummy: you need to bring up the network interfaces with ifup |
| 18:35.53 | SerajewelKS | rummy: this is all pretty basic networking stuff |
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| 18:36.18 | HardDisk_WP | jhutchins, how do I fix this? |
| 18:36.38 | rummy | SerajewelKS: when i use ifup eth0 command i got the folowing output "root@debian:~# ifup eth0 ifup: interface eth0 already configured" |
| 18:36.47 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: Joe should be able to turn indent matching off, or if there aren't any quotes in the text, just echo " <paste> " > file |
| 18:37.27 | HardDisk_WP | jhutchins, but why does joe do only bad indent matching (and syntax coloring!) when behind a screen? |
| 18:37.48 | HardDisk_WP | i mean, colored fonts, ok thats term capability... but indent matching... |
| 18:38.01 | SerajewelKS | rummy: so run ifdown first |
| 18:38.04 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: termcap. It has to do with what the editor thinks the console is capable of, and screen is different than ssh. |
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| 18:38.42 | HardDisk_WP | strange enough, root doesnt display this effect. |
| 18:38.53 | jhutchins_lt | Yep. |
| 18:38.58 | abrotman | rummy: you plug them in, set them up .. where are you having difficulty? |
| 18:39.01 | jhutchins_lt | Different environments. |
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| 18:39.28 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: You can tune this so it all works the same, but it takes some messing with it, and you need to read joe's docs to see what triggers what feature. |
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| 18:39.40 | jhutchins_lt | HardDisk_WP: Then you need to read up on termcap. |
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| 18:40.04 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: sounds like it's with the basic networking configuration... |
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| 18:41.33 | sh4g0 | i need help, i have sound in my lap, but my touch buttons don't work? somebody can help me! |
| 18:42.13 | simonrvn | !ask |
| 18:42.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:42.56 | sh4g0 | ?ยฟ |
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| 18:43.46 | SerajewelKS | sh4g0: are you using gnome? |
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| 18:43.49 | unpaidbill | i love mad libs |
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| 18:44.12 | ziarkaen | Will ppp/pptp automatically modprobe mpee? If not, where do I confidure the system to load this module at boot? |
| 18:44.19 | ruben23 | hi guys i have an existing tftp server on my linux server, with an ubuntu-image, how do i add up windows image on it like win 7 so i can install windows 7 on network..and make it worked.. |
| 18:44.27 | wols | ziarkaen: /etc/modules |
| 18:44.27 | sh4g0 | SerajewelKS, noy KDE, but in gnome i have the same problem! |
| 18:44.30 | Squawk | Anyone got a suggestion for a very simple desktop video capture application? I used xvidcap a number of years ago, no idea if anything has superceded it |
| 18:44.43 | SerajewelKS | sh4g0: ok, i could tell you how to configure it with gnome, but i haven't used KDE in a long time |
| 18:44.56 | ziarkaen | wols, what is /etc/moules.d/ for? |
| 18:45.05 | sh4g0 | well ok =) i'm back on gnome =) |
| 18:45.10 | jelly-home | ziarkaen: which debian release are you using? |
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| 18:45.44 | rummy | SerajewelKS: will u please tell me what to do after configuring /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:47.20 | wols | Squawk: istanbul or recordmydesktop |
| 18:47.23 | SerajewelKS | rummy: i already did |
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| 18:48.02 | sh4g0 | SerajewelKS, noe i'm on gnome =) can you help me =) |
| 18:48.09 | rummy | SerajewelKS: but i am getting the following error:"root@debian:~# ping 192.168.0.2 PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable |
| 18:48.21 | Squawk | wols, thanks |
| 18:48.27 | SerajewelKS | sh4g0: go to preferences -> keyboard shortcuts. find the media keys you want to bind, click them and then press the button. |
| 18:48.30 | sh4g0 | wait.... uff en gnome works :S |
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| 18:48.36 | SerajewelKS | sh4g0: :) |
| 18:48.38 | sh4g0 | but in KDE no.. |
| 18:48.42 | Hiboshi-kun | I'm starting to think that Debian just doesn't like my motherboard... every net install always give me this: http://i44.tinypic.com/2vvrwc4.jpg |
| 18:48.42 | sh4g0 | dammit! |
| 18:48.51 | rummy | SerajewelKS: can u please tell me what is that error? |
| 18:48.57 | SerajewelKS | sh4g0: sorry, you might try looking for KDE's keyboard shortcut bindings and try to bind it manually |
| 18:49.00 | btaranto | hi. i need to install mysql-5.1 on debian lenny, how do i do that? |
| 18:49.15 | wols | rummy: unless you answer the questions you are asked,we cannot help you |
| 18:49.16 | sh4g0 | yeahh well thanks anyway =) |
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| 18:49.38 | SerajewelKS | rummy: that means that you don't have any network cards that know how to reach that IP address. pastebin the output of "ifconfig" on both computers. |
| 18:49.39 | wols | rummy: lots of people asked you something you always ignore them and continue to beg for help. we cannot help you if you don't answer |
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| 18:50.03 | wols | btaranto: apt-cache search mysql server |
| 18:50.30 | rummy | wols: i didn't find your question . ask me again |
| 18:51.03 | btaranto | wols: lenny dont have 5.1 |
| 18:51.09 | Eren | currently, which libc implementation does debian use? |
| 18:51.16 | Eren | I heard that it was switching to eglibc |
| 18:51.20 | wols | rummy: back when you were rammy I asked you something and you didn't answer. now abrotman and SerajewelKS did |
| 18:51.25 | SerajewelKS | btaranto: check and see if backports provides it |
| 18:51.26 | wols | ,versions mysql-server-5.1 |
| 18:51.27 | judd | mysql-server-5.1 -- lenny-backports: 5.1.44-3~bpo50+1; squeeze: 5.1.44-3; sid: 5.1.45-1 |
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| 18:51.36 | SerajewelKS | !tell btaranto about backports |
| 18:51.59 | wols | Eren: glibc |
| 18:52.10 | Eren | wols, http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=47 |
| 18:52.21 | rummy | wols: my internet connection is very slow. it is disconnected frequently. so i did that. sorry.. |
| 18:52.26 | btaranto | judd: could you please send me your aourcelist? |
| 18:53.07 | babilen | btaranto: judd is a bot |
| 18:53.12 | Eren | wols, what about this entry? |
| 18:53.18 | btaranto | babilen: ok |
| 18:53.19 | wols | Eren: what about it? |
| 18:53.36 | Eren | wols, the blog entry, says debian is switching to eglibc :) |
| 18:53.57 | Hiboshi-kun | I'm starting to think that Debian just doesn't like my motherboard... every net install always give me this: http://i44.tinypic.com/2vvrwc4.jpg |
| 18:54.05 | SerajewelKS | btaranto: check what dpkg told you |
| 18:54.19 | btaranto | SerajewelKS: i found: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 18:54.25 | btaranto | SerajewelKS: tks a lot |
| 18:54.27 | wols | Eren: sid uses eglibc yes |
| 18:54.29 | SerajewelKS | btaranto: np |
| 18:55.12 | wols | Hiboshi-kun: that's not a motherbaord problem |
| 18:55.39 | wols | Hiboshi-kun: output of fdisk -l please |
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| 18:55.52 | jelly-home | Hiboshi-kun: how come /dev/sdc is your fourth disk in grub? did you have an usb stick plugged in at installation time? |
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| 18:56.03 | Hiboshi-kun | Wols, my last motherboard i use allowed me to install debian very smoothly. |
| 18:56.23 | wols | Hiboshi-kun: you pretending to know what you're talking about doesn't make this a motherboard problem |
| 18:56.34 | Hiboshi-kun | Jelly-home, mouse and keyboard were the only things usb. |
| 18:56.41 | jelly-home | Hiboshi-kun: I'd like to see ls output in grub console of possible |
| 18:56.49 | jelly-home | if* possible, eh |
| 18:56.51 | Hiboshi-kun | Ok, one sec. |
| 18:56.57 | wols | !tell Hiboshi-kun about rescue |
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| 18:58.02 | jelly-home | Hiboshi-kun: 0x7 is typically an NTFS partition, so there seems to be some confusion wrt disk order |
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| 18:58.25 | Hiboshi-kun | 'unrecognized command' wols |
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| 18:59.02 | rares | what's a good way to duplicate a drive from a 250 GB one to a 500 GB one? |
| 18:59.04 | Hiboshi-kun | 'ls' is unrecognized as well, jelly-home. |
| 18:59.07 | jelly-home | Hiboshi-kun: fdisk -l is run from a booted linux (the netinst cd will work in a pinch) |
| 18:59.15 | Hiboshi-kun | Oh |
| 18:59.19 | wols | Hiboshi-kun: read what dpkg told you |
| 18:59.19 | rares | whois not wois |
| 18:59.24 | greedo | ok got a quick question, I'm trying to upgrade from etch to lenny and I keep getting this error when I run apt-get upgrade |
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| 18:59.38 | greedo | dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found on PATH. |
| 18:59.38 | greedo | dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. |
| 18:59.38 | greedo | NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 18:59.38 | greedo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 18:59.38 | dpkg | greedo: I give up, what is it? |
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| 18:59.39 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, greedo |
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| 19:00.30 | abrotman | so install the program that has ldconfig |
| 19:00.32 | jelly-home | rares: depends. Are you optimizing the procedure to be simple? To be fast? To defrag the data and possibly change filesystem types? |
| 19:00.36 | abrotman | not sure how you ended up without it |
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| 19:00.48 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: seems more likely that his PATH is borked |
| 19:01.13 | nsadmin | greedo not root? |
| 19:01.18 | rummy | SerajewelKS: this is the output i got http://pastebin.com/ucEbKxHg |
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| 19:01.45 | abrotman | greedo: what is your $PATH? or did you somehow delete libc6 ? |
| 19:01.48 | SerajewelKS | rummy: this means the routing table on one of the boxes is borked |
| 19:02.02 | SerajewelKS | rummy: pastebin the output of "ifconfig" and "route" from both boxes |
| 19:02.03 | vlt | Hello. I'm, missing a pkg (t38modem) in squeeze, How can I find out where it has gone and if it will be added soon? |
| 19:02.09 | Titan8990 | box one likely does not have an interface on the 192.168.0.0 network |
| 19:02.09 | Hiboshi-kun | Wait, wait, wait... Rescue Mode really looks like a command-line install of debian, wols, jelly-home. |
| 19:02.18 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/nyajGbb4 |
| 19:02.23 | jelly-home | Hiboshi-kun: ORLY |
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| 19:02.26 | rares | jelly-home: no fs changes but it is an LVM drive so I'm kinda paranoid about the process |
| 19:02.32 | wols | Hiboshi-kun: you can run X just fine if it's installe din there |
| 19:02.37 | nsadmin | greedo not root? |
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| 19:02.49 | abrotman | nsadmin: sounds like hie's in the middle of the dist-upgrade |
| 19:02.49 | SerajewelKS | rummy: or more likely, the interface on system 1 has not been brought up |
| 19:02.53 | wols | ,versions t38modem |
| 19:02.55 | judd | t38modem -- etch: 0.8.0+20050304-4; lenny: 0.8.4-2+b1; sid: 0.8.4-2+b1 |
| 19:02.56 | jelly-home | rares: how many partitions are there on it, if any? |
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| 19:03.08 | greedo | abrotman: you would be correct |
| 19:03.10 | abrotman | vlt: /msg dpkg why is t38modem not in testing |
| 19:03.14 | solifugus | How does one set different ip addresses on different ethernet ports, in debian? (I know how only on redhat) |
| 19:03.17 | abrotman | greedo: i asked you two questions |
| 19:03.22 | vlt | abrotman: Thank you. |
| 19:03.24 | Hiboshi-kun | I think imma go find my old motherboard and see what happens.... |
| 19:03.28 | wols | solifugus: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:03.44 | Titan8990 | solifugus: what wols said assuming you mean different interfaces, not ports |
| 19:03.48 | jelly-home | rares: if you're using the disk directly as a pv, just dd the data, then use lvm tools to extend the pv |
| 19:04.05 | greedo | abrotman: I did not delete libc6, and the $PATH is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin |
| 19:04.10 | nsadmin | abrotman:I think he's saying you're right hes in the middle of a dist upgrade |
| 19:04.27 | greedo | nsadmin: correct |
| 19:04.28 | abrotman | greedo: ls -l /sbin/ldconfig |
| 19:04.35 | solifugus | Titan8990 and wols -- ok, that's the same as in redhat.. I thought that was a redhat thing.. great. |
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| 19:05.01 | greedo | abrotman: cannot access /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory |
| 19:05.06 | greedo | wow |
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| 19:05.19 | nsadmin | greedo: from what to what? |
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| 19:05.30 | HardDisk_WP | when i try to run nano i get a stupid error... |
| 19:05.30 | HardDisk_WP | vs932:~# nano /etc/lighttpd/rrdtool.sh |
| 19:05.31 | HardDisk_WP | Error opening terminal: putty. |
| 19:05.33 | rares | jelly-home: there's a /boot partition and an lvm |
| 19:05.48 | HardDisk_WP | ncurses-base and -bin are installed |
| 19:05.49 | greedo | nsadmin: etch to lenny |
| 19:05.52 | Titan8990 | HardDisk_WP: what does $TERM say? |
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| 19:06.01 | HardDisk_WP | putty |
| 19:06.10 | HardDisk_WP | terminfo is empty |
| 19:06.14 | HardDisk_WP | +$ |
| 19:06.21 | rares | the lvm has 5 partitions |
| 19:06.22 | Titan8990 | HardDisk_WP: $TERM should say 'xterm', even if your using putty IIRC |
| 19:06.35 | abrotman | greedo: do you have the 'ar' binary ? |
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| 19:06.46 | abrotman | greedo: dpkg -l libc6 .. is it installed ? |
| 19:06.55 | nsadmin | what you probably have to do is get the package ldconfig is in and hand-unpack it |
| 19:07.01 | Titan8990 | HardDisk_WP: yeah, i just checked, $TERM should be 'xterm' |
| 19:07.03 | jelly-home | rares: it's almost the same then, dd everything, and after that use a fdisk tool to delete the old lvm partition and create a new one starting exactly in the same place, but spanning the new disk in full |
| 19:07.10 | abrotman | nsadmin: that's libc6 |
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| 19:07.26 | yaaar | howdy |
| 19:07.30 | yaaar | anybody know much about nut/upsd? i'm trying to plug an APC ES350 in via usb folllowing this: http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-a-ups-with-nut-on-debian-or-ubuntu-linux/ ...I see it come up in /var/log/messages when i plug it in, nut installed fine, and i created /etc/nut/ups.conf ok (just using driver=usbhid-ups and port=auto), but when I try to start upsdrvctl i get this error: |
| 19:07.34 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/vMSsbG9U |
| 19:07.34 | nsadmin | interesting... used to be in its own pkg |
| 19:07.38 | rares | my main concern though is how do I i make sure grub doesn't get confused |
| 19:08.07 | abrotman | greedo: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6* |
| 19:08.09 | jelly-home | rares: grub won't get confused because no data will have changed its positions on disk |
| 19:08.27 | Titan8990 | yaaar: what version of debian? |
| 19:08.39 | abrotman | and what error ? |
| 19:08.43 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/v8ymeCXC |
| 19:08.48 | yaaar | woops |
| 19:09.06 | yaaar | missed the error. hah. here it is: Can't claim USB device [051d:0002]: could not detach kernel driver from interface 0: Operation not permitted |
| 19:09.08 | Titan8990 | judd: versions libc6 |
| 19:09.09 | abrotman | greedo: where did the libc6 2.10 come from ? |
| 19:09.11 | judd | libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1; etch-security: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; lenny: 2.7-18lenny1; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny2; sid: 2.10.2-6; squeeze: 2.10.2-6; experimental: 2.11-0exp4 |
| 19:09.20 | rummy | SerajewelKS:this is the output i got in two systems:http://pastebin.com/yUxbRMXq |
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| 19:09.42 | rares | jelly-home: just for future reference my old drive is dev sda the new drive is dev sdb but when it will used it will be dev sda |
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| 19:09.54 | abrotman | yaaar: uname -r ? |
| 19:09.58 | Titan8990 | rares: isn't it obvious that you only assigned an IP to one of the two boxes?? |
| 19:10.00 | jelly-home | rares: right |
| 19:10.14 | rares | how do I install grub on /dev/sdb while having it configured to load everything from /dev/sda |
| 19:10.21 | abrotman | greedo: why do you have a squeeze/sid libc6 in there ? |
| 19:10.28 | SerajewelKS | rummy: eth0 does not have the address 192.168.0.1 |
| 19:10.33 | wols | rares: grub-install --help |
| 19:10.36 | SerajewelKS | rummy: you need to correct that |
| 19:10.36 | yaaar | abrotman: 2.6.31-19-generic |
| 19:10.39 | rares | I don't know of a bootloader that has ever solved this juggling |
| 19:10.39 | jelly-home | rares: you won't need to, it will be dded with all the other data |
| 19:10.43 | abrotman | yaaar: go to #ubuntu for support |
| 19:10.51 | SerajewelKS | rummy: on system 1, did you put the correct address in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:10.56 | greedo | abrotman: not too sure exactly |
| 19:11.03 | matmatmat | hello |
| 19:11.06 | HardDisk_WP | Titan8990, yeah that is fixed now, joe wont fuck up the indent, be it in screen or outside. now if i connect from inside screen via ssh to $other_server and then paste my text, indent becomes totally crap |
| 19:11.10 | yaaar | abrotman: yeah, i know. i pasted it both places. does it really matter? |
| 19:11.20 | abrotman | yaaar: yes, this channel is for Debian support |
| 19:11.25 | greedo | Linux 2.6.13 |
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| 19:11.34 | greedo | is what uname -a reports |
| 19:11.49 | wols | greedo: it doesn't. 2.6.13 is 5 years old or so |
| 19:11.54 | greedo | however this is a legacy system |
| 19:12.02 | jelly-home | rares: this is really a very easy situation, you'll make a copy of all the data on the disk, and the system will be able to boot as first disk, from the first disk, as if nothing changed |
| 19:12.07 | wols | 2.6.13 never was a debian kernel greedo |
| 19:12.09 | matmatmat | my sound is being sent through the analogue output instead of hdmi, how can i change that? |
| 19:12.12 | yaaar | abrotman: i meant "given that this package doesn't appear to be any different for ubuntu and debian, what difference does it make? |
| 19:12.14 | rummy | SerajewelKS: i just put address as 192.168.0.1 and netmask as 255.255.255.0. is it not sufficient? |
| 19:12.18 | HardDisk_WP | WTF, F****** TERMCAP |
| 19:12.24 | rares | jelly-home: thing is I'm not sure I want to wait for 250 GB to copy over |
| 19:12.37 | Titan8990 | wols: it may have been when etch was in testing |
| 19:12.40 | jelly-home | rares: oh noes! It might take 2-3 hours! |
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| 19:12.43 | SerajewelKS | rummy: did you change the mode from "dhcp" to "static"? |
| 19:12.53 | greedo | wols: hmmm, really? |
| 19:12.58 | Titan8990 | yaaar: the difference is we only support debian here. period. |
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| 19:13.11 | dekatch | hello |
| 19:13.13 | jelly-home | rares: do something else in the meantime, or spend those hourse investigating a "faster" solution |
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| 19:13.18 | Titan8990 | yaaar: if we wanted to support ubuntu, we would be in #ubuntu |
| 19:13.24 | nsadmin | greedo: you didn't build that kernel yourself? |
| 19:13.32 | dekatch | can someone tell me how to connect to an ftp account via ftp:// trough my ssh? |
| 19:13.50 | greedo | nsadmin: it was here when I arrived here |
| 19:13.54 | dekatch | googled around :( |
| 19:13.55 | jelly-home | yaaar: we don't know whether ubuntu has made any changes or has a better way to do things |
| 19:14.04 | Titan8990 | dekatch: file transfer via ssh is done using scp or sftp not ftp |
| 19:14.05 | wols | dekatch: ssh is not ftp |
| 19:14.11 | rares | jelly-home: was just curious if there were one. i guess i'll have to script one and test it |
| 19:14.13 | dekatch | i know :P |
| 19:14.18 | dekatch | is it possible? |
| 19:14.19 | nsadmin | greedo: arrived? to what, a job>? |
| 19:14.25 | Titan8990 | dekatch: there are major problems with encypting FTP traffic (mostly related to firewalls) |
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| 19:14.33 | dekatch | i can scp trough ssh, but i cant ftp? |
| 19:14.41 | Titan8990 | dekatch: you can sftp |
| 19:14.51 | dekatch | its an simple ftp acc :( |
| 19:14.54 | Titan8990 | ssh is not an ftp client |
| 19:14.59 | nsadmin | cant' ftp thru ssh |
| 19:15.02 | SerajewelKS | it sounds like he wants to tunnel ftp through an ssh connection? |
| 19:15.02 | rummy | SerajewelKS: yes. and my /etc/network/interfaces file has the following content:http://pastebin.com/JSPnjVgV |
| 19:15.03 | dekatch | its an webftp |
| 19:15.10 | nsadmin | cant' ftp thru ssh |
| 19:15.16 | dekatch | i would connect like ftp://user:pass@ip |
| 19:15.17 | abrotman | yaaar: please go to #ubuntu or ##linux, this channel supports Debian, not all the things based on it |
| 19:15.19 | jelly-home | rares: there always is one, you can replicate the partition/lvm and filesystem setup, copy the data and install a boot loader |
| 19:15.21 | Titan8990 | dekatch: no its not. your web browser happens to have an FTP client |
| 19:15.24 | nsadmin | cant' ftp thru ssh |
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| 19:15.39 | SerajewelKS | rummy: that is correct. it sounds like you just didn't cycle the network interface. it doesn't pick up the content of that file automatically. |
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| 19:15.55 | SerajewelKS | rummy: "ifdown eth0" to disable it then "ifup eth0" to bring it back up with the new configuration |
| 19:15.57 | Titan8990 | dekatch: that does not make it "webftp". again you can't do it. Try using a protocol that was designed post 1970s |
| 19:16.35 | dekatch | unfortunately, well i googled for it and didnt found anything and debian tells me it wont work ! ok, need to download AND upload my files then ! thanks anyway |
| 19:16.47 | rares | sft not ftp for ftp on ssh |
| 19:17.03 | Titan8990 | !ftpmustdie |
| 19:17.03 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
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| 19:17.11 | rares | dekatch actually there is fxp |
| 19:17.16 | Titan8990 | dekatch: that article explains problems with encypting the FTP protocols |
| 19:17.19 | rares | cross ftp |
| 19:17.24 | SerajewelKS | i just got a horrible idea... run sshfs, then start a local ftp server that operates in that directory! |
| 19:17.28 | rares | and if you have the right client you can do it |
| 19:17.36 | dekatch | i dont like ftp, always lost connection problems :P |
| 19:17.55 | rares | dekatch use a two panel ftp program |
| 19:17.58 | dekatch | i use sftp scp but there is a ftp acc with 20GB space and some files : |
| 19:18.10 | rares | login remotely in both panels and then drag it over |
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| 19:18.20 | rares | check to see if the client supports cross ftp |
| 19:18.34 | dekatch | can i query u nares |
| 19:18.42 | rares | sure |
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| 19:23.18 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
| 19:23.28 | HardDisk_WP | does lighttpd have problems following stupid symlinks? |
| 19:23.46 | jelly-home | yeah, they have to be smart |
| 19:24.02 | HardDisk_WP | -.- |
| 19:24.03 | SerajewelKS | oh snap |
| 19:24.23 | HardDisk_WP | I was in /var/www/hosts/, and ran ln -s default/index.php xyz.de/index.php |
| 19:24.32 | HardDisk_WP | ls -lah xyz.de shows |
| 19:24.32 | HardDisk_WP | lrwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 17 Apr 1 21:20 index.php -> default/index.php |
| 19:24.43 | HardDisk_WP | but lighttpd doesnt see index.php |
| 19:24.54 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: does xyz.de/default/index.php exist? |
| 19:24.59 | HardDisk_WP | uh, no |
| 19:25.14 | jelly-home | then it works as it should. |
| 19:25.17 | HardDisk_WP | doesn't ln -s resolve the relative path I specified?! |
| 19:25.41 | jelly-home | ln doesn't Do What I Mean, no\ |
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| 19:25.49 | SerajewelKS | ln -s doesn't resolve paths at all... |
| 19:25.56 | HardDisk_WP | that sucks, thanks for the info |
| 19:26.00 | SerajewelKS | usually you want to be in the directory you are creating the symlink in |
| 19:26.02 | vlt | Any idea how to reach http://release.debian.org ? |
| 19:26.11 | SerajewelKS | HardDisk_WP: also, add --color to ls |
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| 19:26.21 | SerajewelKS | HardDisk_WP: it would have highlighted the symlink in red to tell you that it's dangling |
| 19:26.22 | vlt | I mean is there a mirror that works? |
| 19:26.31 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: you probably wanted ln -fs ../default/index.php xyz.de/index.php |
| 19:26.40 | dekatch | haha i was in / and was trying to do a "rm *.zip" and i did a mistake and typed in "rm *" |
| 19:26.40 | HardDisk_WP | whats -f for? |
| 19:26.55 | jelly-home | "force" |
| 19:26.59 | dekatch | now my install is messed up lol |
| 19:27.08 | SerajewelKS | dekatch: that's why you alias rm to rm -i for root :) |
| 19:27.25 | SerajewelKS | dekatch: it should not have removed any directories though |
| 19:27.27 | Hydroxide | on my debian system there are only directories in /, plus a few symlinks |
| 19:27.39 | Hydroxide | so it shouldn't cause significant problems |
| 19:27.53 | SerajewelKS | Hydroxide: it will, because the symlinks point to kernel images... |
| 19:27.57 | Hydroxide | SerajewelKS: yeah. |
| 19:28.01 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: I HATE that alias. |
| 19:28.06 | Hydroxide | SerajewelKS: depends on if he symlinked or not |
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| 19:28.09 | dekatch | ye, but a alias would not remove "rm" functionality or? |
| 19:28.11 | Hydroxide | jelly-home: debian doesn't do it by default |
| 19:28.17 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: i don't if i'm deleting just a few files |
| 19:28.18 | dekatch | SerajewelKS: ? |
| 19:28.23 | jelly-home | Hydroxide: that's just one of the reasons debian/rules |
| 19:28.30 | SerajewelKS | dekatch: it would map "rm" to "rm -i" |
| 19:28.39 | SerajewelKS | dekatch: -i makes rm prompt you for each file |
| 19:28.47 | Hydroxide | dekatch: on my debian system, /cdrom is a symlink to media/cdrom, /vmlinuz is a symlink to my kernel image, and /initrd.img is a symlink to the corresponding initrd |
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| 19:29.03 | Hydroxide | dekatch: everything else in / is a directory and won't get removed by rm if you didn't use -r |
| 19:29.06 | Hydroxide | (or -R) |
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| 19:29.16 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
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| 19:29.29 | dekatch | ah,ye, i got luck then |
| 19:29.34 | dekatch | but i miss some files :P |
| 19:29.43 | Hydroxide | dekatch: you can just recreate those symlinks |
| 19:29.51 | Rapp | i am running stable on a server. i just installed cron-apt, and would like it to automatically install security updates, but only those. no dist-upgrade. how do i do this? |
| 19:30.15 | dekatch | was needed to download them again heh |
| 19:30.18 | dekatch | :=) |
| 19:30.24 | SerajewelKS | Rapp: if you only have lenny sources, then dist-upgrade should do exactly that.. |
| 19:30.43 | Hydroxide | SerajewelKS, Rapp: upgrade aka safe-upgrade is probably the right thing for that use case |
| 19:30.55 | SerajewelKS | that too |
| 19:30.57 | Rapp | SerajewelKS: i have stable sources, not exactly lenny. |
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| 19:31.18 | SerajewelKS | Rapp: sources such as... |
| 19:31.19 | Hydroxide | Rapp: if the sources file says 'stable', it'll give you lenny until squeeze releases, then it'll give you squeeze |
| 19:31.27 | Hydroxide | Rapp: if you don't want that, make it say 'lenny' instead |
| 19:31.35 | Rapp | so, i change the "dist-upgrade -d -y -o APT::Get::Show-Upgraded=true" to "upgrade ..." in the action file? |
| 19:31.38 | abrotman | it should say lenny .. surprise upgrades are never fun |
| 19:31.52 | Hydroxide | abrotman: better for most cases, yes |
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| 19:32.02 | Rapp | Hydroxide: well, switching to lenny left a few services broken last time... :) |
| 19:32.06 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: not fun for the sysadmin... for the spectators it's hilarious |
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| 19:32.16 | Hydroxide | Rapp: so are you still running etch? |
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| 19:32.34 | Hydroxide | Rapp: because Debian isn't pushing out any more updates for etch period. (POSSIBLY one last final "this is it" update, but I'm not sure) |
| 19:32.41 | Rapp | Hydroxide: no, i think it should be lenny, since i did the dist-upgrade and repaired the broken services |
| 19:32.44 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 19:32.51 | Titan8990 | Hydroxide: they already got the "this is it" update |
| 19:32.59 | Hydroxide | Titan8990: ok |
| 19:33.02 | Rapp | how do i find out? (it's a virtual server, so the kernel is actually redhat) |
| 19:33.03 | Titan8990 | after it was officially unsupported |
| 19:33.10 | Hydroxide | Rapp: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:33.10 | Titan8990 | !version |
| 19:33.10 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 19:33.26 | Titan8990 | Rapp: that probably means openvz... which is rather terrible |
| 19:33.29 | Rapp | debian_version says 5.0.4 |
| 19:33.43 | jelly-home | Rapp: that's Debian 5, codename lenny! |
| 19:33.47 | Rapp | Titan8990: yeah, but it worked for the last 3 years now. it's ok, and cheap |
| 19:33.56 | Rapp | good |
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| 19:34.13 | Hydroxide | Rapp: so if you change your sources to reference 'lenny' explicitly instead of 'stable' you won't get upgraded to squeeze unexpectedly |
| 19:34.20 | Rapp | so, am i safe if i switch the action.d/03-download line from "dist-upgrade..." to "upgrade"? |
| 19:34.29 | Rapp | Hydroxide: or that... |
| 19:34.31 | Hydroxide | Rapp: when you are ready to upgrade to squeeze, please read the release notes and follow those instructions - your problems will be minimized that way |
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| 19:34.39 | [Jasper] | ej guys, does lvm make your systrem slower/ |
| 19:34.42 | Rapp | Hydroxide: good hint |
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| 19:35.15 | Hydroxide | Rapp: switch 'stable' to 'lenny' and use 'upgrade' (or preferably the new option name 'safe-upgrade' if this is done via aptitude) instead of 'dist-upgrade' |
| 19:35.21 | Hydroxide | Rapp: and then you're probably well set up |
| 19:35.29 | Rapp | Hydroxide: ok |
| 19:35.30 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: not noticeably |
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| 19:35.32 | Rapp | will try that |
| 19:35.34 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: of course, because it's an abstraction layer. but not noticably, in my experience. |
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| 19:35.47 | Hydroxide | good luck |
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| 19:35.51 | Rapp | thanks |
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| 19:37.33 | Rapp | changes made, let's see what tomorrow's mails will say, if cron-apt ran successfully. have a nice easter everyone and thanks! |
| 19:38.05 | terron | Since uninstalling samba, I can no longer change my password using passwd. I keeping getting an error of "passwd: Module is unknown" followed by "passwd: password unchanged". I've checked the pam files that are required and I've run out of ideas on how to fix this. Any suggestions? |
| 19:38.59 | jelly-home | terron: what happens if you reset those pam files to default values? |
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| 19:39.48 | jelly-home | terron: also, can root change your password? |
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| 19:41.52 | terron | no user can change any password. all the pam files seem to be installed but passwd still returns that "module is unknown error" |
| 19:43.26 | dondelelcaro | terron: you don't have an /etc/pam.d/passwd or similar. |
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| 19:43.56 | dondelelcaro | (or you've got your passwd loading a module which doesn't exist, or something else similar) |
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| 19:45.27 | terron | pam was trying to load winbind which seemed to have been causing the problem. i removed it from the config but can't seem to get it to restart and not use the old config file |
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| 19:46.19 | dondelelcaro | pam doesn't get restarted |
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| 19:48.26 | jelly-home | terron: uh, care to pastebin your /etc/pam.d/{common*,passwd} ? |
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| 19:48.43 | terron | sure |
| 19:49.02 | jelly-home | if I knew how to reset common* to default values, I'd have told you to do that and see what happens |
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| 19:49.44 | jelly-home | libpam-runtime is the only postinst that seems to mess with those |
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| 19:51.40 | terron | ah, looks like i missed one of the lines. it seems to be working now. thanks a lot :) |
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| 19:52.22 | SerajewelKS | terron: doesn't that suck? |
| 19:53.01 | jelly-home | !win terron |
| 19:53.01 | dpkg | Congratulations, terron! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 19:53.06 | terron | lol |
| 19:53.35 | SerajewelKS | terron: i mean the principle that asking for help doesn't mean you need help, it means you need people to ask questions that lead you to discover your own stupidity :) happens to me all the time |
| 19:53.48 | terron | what really sucks is trying to figure out why the hell samba would make it so anybody who wanted to authenticate would have to authenticate via the domain. i got so frustrated i just ended up purging the whole damn thing, which didn't help as much as i hoped it would |
| 19:54.13 | SerajewelKS | terron: i don't think samba does that itself... winbind might |
| 19:54.27 | Titan8990 | was thinking the same |
| 19:54.35 | SerajewelKS | terron: samba is just a file server |
| 19:54.44 | SerajewelKS | (print server etc) it doesn't authenticate people |
| 19:54.45 | [Jasper] | hej guys, anyone here know something about raid? |
| 19:54.48 | terron | i should clarify: samba or something it installed |
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| 19:54.51 | SerajewelKS | !anyone know |
| 19:54.51 | dpkg | Nope, no one knows! Actually, someone *might* know, but it's best to simply state your problem or ask your question. If someone in the know is around, they will answer, if not, well, no one knows ;). |
| 19:54.55 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: ^^^ |
| 19:54.55 | [Jasper] | I need to know what staggered spinup exactly means |
| 19:55.02 | Titan8990 | SerajewelKS: it does authenticate people... just to its on passwd file by default |
| 19:55.09 | [Jasper] | SerajewelKS :P |
| 19:55.09 | Titan8990 | s/on/own |
| 19:55.23 | [Jasper] | and the number of drives I can set with staggered spinup |
| 19:55.24 | SerajewelKS | Titan8990: i mean authenticate for other services |
| 19:55.34 | Titan8990 | right |
| 19:55.45 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: what do you mean by "exactly means"? |
| 19:55.48 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: it means to spin up one drive at a time so your power supply doesn't get slammed all at once |
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| 19:56.37 | [Jasper] | SerajewelKS.. does it make my drives slower SerajewelKS ? |
| 19:56.46 | [Jasper] | if I don't enable spinup of them at the same time? |
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| 19:58.13 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: it prolongs the boot-up time, but it doesn't make anything slower once when it's running |
| 19:58.21 | [Jasper] | oh ok |
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| 19:58.32 | [Jasper] | thanks jelly-home SerajewelKS |
| 19:58.41 | [Jasper] | so this basically only slows down booting nothing else? |
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| 19:58.48 | jelly-home | right |
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| 19:59.19 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: right. it reduces the amount of power the PSU must supply at once. it draws a bit more power over time instead of drawing a shit-ton all at once. |
| 19:59.35 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: when they are all spun up, then... they are all spun up :) and everything works |
| 19:59.46 | [Jasper] | so best is to just let 1 disk spinup at a time |
| 19:59.50 | [Jasper] | with 2 second intervals or something |
| 20:00.01 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: right, from the PSU's perspective |
| 20:00.17 | [Jasper] | one or 2 more seconds, I don;t care :p |
| 20:00.32 | SerajewelKS | 2 seconds seems awfully fast... |
| 20:00.42 | [Jasper] | and staggered method, I can choose, sataoob or ata-6 |
| 20:00.48 | [Jasper] | wher can I find what to choose? |
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| 20:01.15 | SerajewelKS | [Jasper]: i think you just have to experiment. or the HD's specs might say. |
| 20:01.58 | [Jasper] | hmm |
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| 20:02.17 | [Jasper] | can't find it in the specs :( |
| 20:03.06 | jelly-home | s/HD's/raid controller/ |
| 20:03.28 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: i thought spin-up time was a property of disk construction |
| 20:03.38 | hideo | heh, http://kernel.org/ |
| 20:04.01 | jelly-home | SerajewelKS: oh, you were referring to the stagger delay? My bad |
| 20:04.17 | SerajewelKS | jelly-home: yeah.. what did you think i meant? :) |
| 20:04.35 | jelly-home | dunno really. my eonstor 24 sata disk box does 5 seconds or so |
| 20:04.54 | [Jasper] | jelly-home: 3ware 9550sx with 4* western digital scorpio black 2500bekt discs |
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| 20:05.00 | [Jasper] | wd2500bekt is type |
| 20:05.16 | jelly-home | are those... 2.5TB? |
| 20:05.40 | SerajewelKS | my external 1tb drive takes about 6-8 seconds to spin up |
| 20:06.05 | [Jasper] | jelly no 250 gb |
| 20:06.09 | jelly-home | ah |
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| 20:07.32 | [Jasper] | I guess it's sataoob.. |
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| 20:14.48 | [Jasper] | jelly-home how can I see if it works? |
| 20:14.54 | [Jasper] | I put spinup time on 6 seconds.. |
| 20:15.02 | [Jasper] | should it take 18 seconds for them to spinup |
| 20:15.02 | [Jasper] | ? |
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| 20:15.19 | nsadmin | could |
| 20:15.25 | SerajewelKS | my guess is that it will take 12 plus whatever the last drive takes |
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| 20:15.35 | setuid | Ubuntu has a 'server' ISO for download, is there a Debian equivalent? I don't see one here: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 20:15.40 | SerajewelKS | i don't think it waits 6 seconds on the last drive |
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| 20:15.54 | SerajewelKS | setuid: debian "server" is debian with the packages you want for your server |
| 20:15.57 | humbolt | how can I prevent a user from GDM login? setting shell to /bin/false does not work |
| 20:15.58 | nsadmin | setuid debian doesn't differentiate that way |
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| 20:16.35 | setuid | SerajewelKS, Ok, just clarifying, thanks |
| 20:16.38 | SerajewelKS | setuid: ubuntu server i believe just has a different default set of packages, and perhaps has those packages on the disc instead of fetching them from the interwebs |
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| 20:22.55 | Hiboshi-kun | Is there a security-like program i could use on Debian ? i need a program that will write it's video recording in short intervals to disk. any suggestions ? |
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| 20:23.30 | lindi- | Hiboshi-kun: motion |
| 20:23.41 | joshteam | Anyone know if a repo exists for a newer subversion package? |
| 20:23.51 | Hiboshi-kun | Lindi-: motion ? |
| 20:24.08 | lindi- | Hiboshi-kun: name of the package is motion |
| 20:24.24 | Digdilem | Hiboshi-kun, also Zoneminder |
| 20:24.29 | Hiboshi-kun | Ok, are there any others like it just inc ase? |
| 20:24.31 | Hiboshi-kun | In case* |
| 20:24.37 | seatstaken1 | having trouble setting up a transparent ethernet bridge |
| 20:24.39 | SerajewelKS | ,versions subversion |
| 20:24.41 | nsadmin | Hiboshi-kun: look into it first before asking more... makes you smarter |
| 20:24.41 | judd | subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2; etch-security: 1.4.2dfsg1-3; etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-4; lenny-security: 1.5.1dfsg1-4; lenny-backports: 1.6.4dfsg-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.6.9dfsg-1; squeeze: 1.6.9dfsg-1 |
| 20:24.50 | SerajewelKS | !tell joshteam about backports |
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| 20:25.44 | Hiboshi-kun | Nsadmin, i always look at at least 2 or 3 programs so i can compare and see which i like better. |
| 20:26.09 | nsadmin | Hiboshi-kun: and since you'll -be- smarter, the questions you ask after will be smarter, and you'll appear smarter. |
| 20:26.19 | nsadmin | ever tried google? :) |
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| 20:27.54 | Hiboshi-kun | I never get the right keywords (usually) and nothing beats the actual response of a live person with experience or knowledge about the program being sought after. |
| 20:28.00 | Hiboshi-kun | Nsadmin ^ |
| 20:28.26 | nsadmin | try: motion debian package or motion video program |
| 20:29.14 | nsadmin | Hiboshi-kun: that modality tends to burn out helpers when it scales. |
| 20:29.21 | Hiboshi-kun | Oh, i thought you meant to use google as a preemtive search before asking in here about programs that does certain things. |
| 20:29.22 | Quicken2K | is debian still made? |
| 20:30.20 | ziarkaen | Quicken2K, Um. Yes. |
| 20:30.23 | nsadmin | well you could do that, but you'd been given a response... since you like to compare, your options are fairly diverse |
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| 20:31.22 | nsadmin | you can install it... you can go to packages.debian.org and look at its description... you can go to packages.debian.org and browse for similar programs... you can search google... |
| 20:31.31 | Quicken2K | when's the next release |
| 20:31.33 | simonrvn | Quicken2K: um, try harder at trolling |
| 20:31.55 | nsadmin | you're giving him ideas :) |
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| 20:32.07 | Quicken2K | not trolling just wondering |
| 20:32.12 | SerajewelKS | !wwsr |
| 20:32.12 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00001.html |
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| 20:33.20 | simonrvn | ah ok, they put in the latest too, good |
| 20:33.25 | simonrvn | !debian-news |
| 20:33.25 | dpkg | Debian News! To find out what noteworthy things are going on, ask me about <lenny>, <etch>, <wwsr>, <ries>, <java ipv6>. |
| 20:33.56 | [Jasper] | guys, lvm during debian intsaller is lvm2 right? |
| 20:34.07 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 20:34.24 | zoredache | dpkg you didn't mention if there was any money tied to the squeeze bet. |
| 20:34.24 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
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| 20:34.54 | Gnudoll | squeeze bet? |
| 20:35.08 | m3rc05m1 | yeah ask dpkg about it |
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| 20:35.15 | [Jasper] | nsadmin: yeah for me? |
| 20:35.35 | nsadmin | lvm2 |
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| 20:36.04 | zoredache | The factoid isn't clear that I would win or loose anything by this 'bet'. I suppose that means that I don't win anything. :\ |
| 20:36.12 | nsadmin | I have to be careful to not say the same thing twice... idoru will get me... |
| 20:36.44 | simonrvn | what? |
| 20:36.50 | simonrvn | what? |
| 20:36.58 | nsadmin | one more |
| 20:37.02 | simonrvn | what? |
| 20:37.08 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 20:37.15 | nsadmin | oh, are you identified to services? |
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| 20:37.23 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:37.27 | nsadmin | I wasn't at the time |
| 20:37.59 | simonrvn | ah |
| 20:38.11 | Gnudoll | test |
| 20:38.12 | Gnudoll | test |
| 20:38.13 | simonrvn | l8r g8tr |
| 20:38.15 | Gnudoll | test |
| 20:38.32 | Gnudoll | Hmmm, I guess I must be as well |
| 20:38.46 | Gnudoll | I know I am with NickServ |
| 20:39.18 | Gnudoll | wonders what other services she should be identified with. . . |
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| 20:39.44 | Quicken2K | government, police,fire ect... |
| 20:39.49 | seatstaken1 | i have followed the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections but my br0 is reporting that there are no dhcp offers |
| 20:40.09 | nsadmin | Gnudoll, right, at the time I wasn't |
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| 20:41.25 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:43.53 | Gnudoll | Quicken2K I'm already identified with too many of those. . . |
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| 20:51.07 | seatstaken1 | http://pastebin.com/Yxyx6rj9 |
| 20:51.29 | seatstaken1 | the bridge is on another network |
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| 20:51.38 | greedo | nsadmin: yes, to a job |
| 20:52.13 | nsadmin | oh, so what's the status of the machine? you should probably restore from backups |
| 20:52.35 | nsadmin | also whats the purpose of the machine? |
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| 20:55.48 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: my experience is that the bridge-utils stuff doesn't properly enable promiscuous mode |
| 20:56.02 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: i'm not sure if it's because you didn't bring up eth0/eth1 first or if you just have to do that with up scripts |
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| 20:56.32 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: or perhaps the problem is that it looks like you are trying to bridge either eth3 and eth4, or eth0 and eth1 |
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| 20:56.40 | seatstaken1 | lol |
| 20:56.44 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: lines 13/14 and line 17 do not agree |
| 20:56.46 | seatstaken1 | no eth3 and eth4 are correct |
| 20:56.52 | seatstaken1 | there are no eth0 or eth1 |
| 20:56.58 | SerajewelKS | seatstaken1: then your bridge_ports directive is incorrect |
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| 20:57.01 | seatstaken1 | thoes were NICs i replaced |
| 20:57.12 | seatstaken1 | oh |
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| 20:57.21 | seatstaken1 | yeah thats pretty straight up wrong right there |
| 20:57.22 | seatstaken1 | lol |
| 20:57.24 | seatstaken1 | brb |
| 20:57.28 | SerajewelKS | :) |
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| 20:57.47 | seatstaken1 | sometimes it takes more than 1 pair of eyes |
| 20:58.25 | adb | !z25 |
| 20:58.25 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze). If you want the mappings to change, edit this file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 20:58.26 | TheAvatar | A |
| 20:59.10 | seatstaken1 | ty SerjewelKS |
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| 21:01.44 | greedo | nsadmin: lol, actually it's a backup machine |
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| 21:03.51 | widmo | hi |
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| 21:17.01 | HollyRain | how to find a package from an installed file ? |
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| 21:17.07 | karan | how do i edit start up |
| 21:17.09 | karan | programs |
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| 21:17.23 | karan | like i wanna make the compiz fusion icon start up every time i log in |
| 21:18.17 | karan | help |
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| 21:19.21 | [Jasper] | guys, I'm completeing the installer and keep getting operating system not found.. |
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| 21:19.38 | karan | guy |
| 21:19.53 | karan | everytime i try to watch youtube in lenny |
| 21:19.59 | karan | i click the grey play icon |
| 21:20.03 | karan | and nothing plays |
| 21:20.05 | karan | its jsut black |
| 21:20.19 | ngomes | have u installed flash player ? |
| 21:20.30 | karan | yes |
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| 21:20.57 | [Jasper] | guys, I'm completeing the installer and keep getting operating system not found.. |
| 21:21.11 | karan | <ngomes> what do i do |
| 21:21.12 | karan | ? |
| 21:21.17 | ngomes | dunno |
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| 21:22.18 | d3mn0id | http://pastebin.com/yVcxSs8C |
| 21:22.23 | d3mn0id | help? anyone? |
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| 21:24.38 | adb | , versions libgirepository1.0-0 |
| 21:24.39 | judd | libgirepository1.0-0 -- lenny-backports: 0.6.7-3~bpo50+1; sid: 0.6.8-1; squeeze: 0.6.8-1 |
| 21:25.20 | rvsjoen | d3mn0id: did you do what it says ? |
| 21:25.39 | d3mn0id | rvsjoen: which is |
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| 21:25.57 | rvsjoen | read in, especially the last line |
| 21:26.00 | rvsjoen | *it |
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| 21:26.33 | d3mn0id | oh, yes, did that. |
| 21:26.37 | d3mn0id | want output? |
| 21:26.41 | rvsjoen | same error ? |
| 21:26.48 | d3mn0id | yeah. |
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| 21:27.21 | d3mn0id | isn't there a way to just remove without dependency checking? |
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| 21:29.54 | adb | d3mn0id, try aptitude purge gnome-shell |
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| 21:30.30 | d3mn0id | adb, have already. |
| 21:30.53 | adb | and ? |
| 21:31.24 | d3mn0id | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed pre-removal script: Exec format error |
| 21:31.24 | dpkg | d3mn0id: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 21:31.38 | d3mn0id | lol. |
| 21:32.35 | adb | d3mn0id, something is weird it your paste "gobject-introspection: Depends: libgirepository1.0-0 (= 0.6.5-1)" |
| 21:33.04 | adb | but depends gobject-introspection get "" gobject-introspection: depends on libc6 (>= 2.7), libffi5 (>= 3.0.4), libgirepository1.0-0 (= 0.6.8-1) |
| 21:33.25 | d3mn0id | adb: what? |
| 21:33.45 | adb | ones is (= 0.6.5-1) vs (= 0.6.8-1) |
| 21:34.09 | d3mn0id | and? |
| 21:34.43 | greedo | nsadmin: i couldn't find the ldconfig package |
| 21:35.13 | adb | d3mn0id, and (= 0.6.5-1) those not exist nowhere |
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| 21:35.26 | adb | , versions libgirepository1.0-0 |
| 21:35.26 | judd | libgirepository1.0-0 -- lenny-backports: 0.6.7-3~bpo50+1; sid: 0.6.8-1; squeeze: 0.6.8-1 |
| 21:35.36 | [Jasper] | guys, I have a very weird problem |
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| 21:36.15 | rvsjoen | greedo: ldconfig package ? ldconfig is a part of libc6 |
| 21:37.00 | HollyRain | where are the source files of a package like libc6? |
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| 21:37.42 | rvsjoen | hollyrain: if you have deb-src lines in your sources.list, apt-get source libc6 |
| 21:37.52 | greedo | rvsjoen: my libc6 appears to be screwed up |
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| 21:38.13 | HollyRain | thanks |
| 21:38.40 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/QBi10Jwv |
| 21:39.02 | greedo | rvsjoen: I keep getting this error |
| 21:39.31 | rvsjoen | chances are fairly high you already have libc6 installed, what are you trying to do |
| 21:39.43 | HollyRain | from here cann't looked for the source packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ? |
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| 21:40.10 | rvsjoen | dpkg: ubuntu |
| 21:40.10 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 21:41.09 | adb | d3mn0id, don't pm me , ask in channel , please |
| 21:41.16 | HollyRain | ops! sorry |
| 21:41.25 | rvsjoen | greedo: did you screw with your apt sources ? are you mixing releases ? |
| 21:41.43 | greedo | rvsjoen: i'm not too sure |
| 21:41.47 | jelly-home | greedo: you installed packages from testing or unstable, then removed those from sources.list |
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| 21:42.52 | jelly-home | greedo: if you're trying to downgrade, you'll have to downgrade all the packages created from glibc sources at the same time |
| 21:43.31 | greedo | http://pastebin.com/DPYDg9Hs |
| 21:43.37 | jelly-home | greedo: they are listed in that output -- libc6, locales, and you may remove -dev packages without many ill effects |
| 21:43.39 | EagleWatch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.57 | greedo | jelly-home: that is what I have now |
| 21:44.11 | jelly-home | greedo: that's not what you had at some point in thr past |
| 21:44.24 | jelly-home | !tell greedo about partial downgrade |
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| 21:45.20 | greedo | jelly-home: jelly-home: the commented out lines are what I had in the past |
| 21:47.26 | greedo | jelly-home: I'm trying to go from etch to lenny |
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| 21:48.08 | jelly-home | greedo: at this point some parts of your system are past lenny. I suggest a reinstall if it's not a production server |
| 21:48.13 | d3mn0id | what is an "exec format error"? |
| 21:48.31 | jelly-home | d3mn0id: context? |
| 21:48.38 | jelly-home | !tell d3mn0id about ask |
| 21:49.16 | d3mn0id | is the executable corrupted? |
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| 21:49.47 | greedo | jelly-home: it is very much a production server |
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| 21:50.15 | jelly-home | greedo: fwiw, your system must have had deb lines for testing (or squeeze) or unstable (or sid) enabled at some point in the past, no other way you could have ended up with parts of libc6 versioned 2.10 |
| 21:50.19 | greedo | jelly-home: so I need to fix these packages |
| 21:50.46 | greedo | hmm, yeah I saw those lines |
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| 21:51.18 | karan | hey |
| 21:51.23 | greedo | but usually unstable and testing are not recommended for production servers |
| 21:51.25 | karan | how do i install a deb. file in lenny |
| 21:51.26 | karan | ? |
| 21:51.33 | karan | i wanna install google chrome ebta |
| 21:51.35 | karan | beta |
| 21:51.36 | AimHere | dpkg -i, but be careful |
| 21:51.36 | dpkg | AimHere: I give up, what is it? |
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| 21:51.47 | karan | ty |
| 21:53.08 | karan | k |
| 21:53.14 | karan | i wanna install google chrome |
| 21:53.17 | karan | google-chrome-beta_current_i386.deb |
| 21:53.21 | jelly-home | greedo: remove the -dev packages mentioned in your output, and install libc6 and locales from lenny. |
| 21:53.21 | karan | is on my desktop |
| 21:53.26 | karan | just tell me the exact command |
| 21:53.29 | karan | pleas |
| 21:53.33 | karan | im a noob |
| 21:54.12 | jelly-home | karan: you were told the command, it's "dpkg -i packagefile.deb", needs to be run as root |
| 21:55.18 | karan | debian:/home/karan# dpkg -i google-chrome-beta_current_i386.deb |
| 21:55.18 | karan | dpkg: error processing google-chrome-beta_current_i386.deb (--install): |
| 21:55.18 | karan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.19 | karan | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:55.19 | karan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.19 | dpkg | karan: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 21:55.57 | greedo | jelly-home: how can I go about removing these -dev packages? |
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| 21:56.12 | jelly-home | greedo: use dpkg to remove them. |
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| 21:56.30 | karan | ok |
| 21:56.32 | karan | so what do i do |
| 21:56.37 | karan | im sorry about th |
| 21:56.40 | karan | that* |
| 21:56.54 | jelly-home | karan: go to the directory where that .deb file actually is stored |
| 21:57.01 | karan | yes |
| 21:57.04 | karan | thats my desktop |
| 21:57.05 | greedo | jelly-home: so libc6 >2.10 |
| 21:57.16 | karan | <jelly-home> now what? |
| 21:57.24 | jelly-home | karan: what is the directory equivalent of your desktop? |
| 21:57.46 | jelly-home | karan: hint: it's not (just) "/home/karan" |
| 21:58.02 | karan | /home/karan/Desktop/google-chrome-beta_current_i386.deb |
| 21:58.24 | jelly-home | karan: use that as an argument for dpkg -i, then |
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| 21:58.52 | jelly-home | greedo: sorry, is that a question? |
| 21:59.16 | karan | thank you |
| 21:59.18 | karan | it worked |
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| 21:59.30 | jelly-home | cheers |
| 22:00.06 | karan | aw shit :( the youtube problem is not fixed with chrome too |
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| 22:00.52 | greedo | jelly-home: so is libc6 the only package that is screwed up? |
| 22:00.53 | karan | i guess imma have to switch back to windows |
| 22:00.55 | Vesperto | How can i (use aptitude to) find out which package a manpage comes from? Or, which one contains man for regular c funcions like exit, pipe, fork...? |
| 22:01.16 | jelly-home | greedo: how could I know? |
| 22:02.00 | jelly-home | greedo: you could inspect apt or aptitude and dpkg logs for clues |
| 22:02.07 | greedo | jelly-home: ok, I still can't remove it: dpkg -P libc6 |
| 22:02.19 | jelly-home | greedo: jesus, who said to remove it?! |
| 22:02.48 | jelly-home | "greedo: remove the -dev packages mentioned in your output, and install libc6 and locales from lenny." |
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| 22:04.09 | greedo | jelly-home: ok, this may sound elementary, but how could I do that? |
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| 22:05.11 | jelly-home | greedo: dpkg will work. |
| 22:06.12 | greedo | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/1RMhFHf9 |
| 22:06.30 | Vesperto | Ah, found it, manpages-dev and glibc-doc. |
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| 22:07.14 | jelly-home | greedo: that's just a warning, that you already established happens because /sbin/ldconfig is presently missing |
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| 22:13.42 | [Jasper] | anyone got a clue where the option: boot volume size is for |
| 22:14.06 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: in the installer? |
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| 22:14.27 | jelly-home | "where X is for" is making me confused |
| 22:14.34 | greedo | jelly-home: I'll see what I can do and get back to you |
| 22:14.46 | greedo | jelly-home: thanks for the help |
| 22:14.51 | jelly-home | greedo: I'm going to bed now, hopefully someone else will pick up |
| 22:15.09 | greedo | jelly-home: ok, night |
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| 22:17.27 | [Jasper] | no Titan8990 my raid card has the option boot volume size.. |
| 22:17.34 | [Jasper] | wonder if it's usefull |
| 22:18.26 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: might be so you can keep /boot off of the raid |
| 22:18.37 | Titan8990 | is it a real hardware raid card? |
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| 22:19.14 | [Jasper] | Titan8990 yes real hardware |
| 22:19.23 | [Jasper] | I made a 20 gb boot volume size |
| 22:19.35 | [Jasper] | now in debian it show sda and sdb...where sda = 20 gb |
| 22:19.44 | [Jasper] | en sdb is 480 gb |
| 22:19.52 | [Jasper] | so it basically shows it as 2 discs |
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| 22:21.49 | chelz | is there a place in aptitude that shows what archive a package is from? |
| 22:22.12 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: 20gb is an insanely large /boot... if that is what sda is |
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| 22:22.27 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: 200mb is a good size for /boot |
| 22:22.56 | Titan8990 | chelz: no, but you can: apt-cache policy <package> |
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| 22:24.38 | chelz | i'm on debian lenny and trying to get better with using aptitude. i have testing and unstable lines in my sources.list and an apt preferences that sets * from both to priority 10. in aptitude when i try ~i!~A as a filter it doesn't seem to only show from testing. is there a better way to list all installed from a certain archive? |
| 22:24.50 | [Jasper] | it's not only for boot what I understand Titan8990 |
| 22:25.05 | chelz | ~i!~Atesting i mean |
| 22:25.38 | [Jasper] | When you create a unit through 3BM, you can create a special volume to function as the boot volume. You specify the size you want this volume to be. This is useful if you will be installing an operating system onto the unit, and want it to be installed in one volume and have a separate volume for data. |
| 22:25.43 | [Jasper] | that's what it sys Titan8990 |
| 22:25.47 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: `mount` will show you where that partition is mounted |
| 22:26.16 | [Jasper] | Titan8990 I'm doing the instaler |
| 22:26.22 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: depends on if its talking about windows or linux.... |
| 22:26.29 | [Jasper] | I think it's to keep data / system seperate on a hardware level Titan8990 |
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| 22:26.43 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: in linux the boot volume would be /boot and contain very little files. in windows, it would contain the OS |
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| 22:27.01 | [Jasper] | hmm why not just put the complete system on in then? |
| 22:27.03 | [Jasper] | in linux also? |
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| 22:29.06 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: well, that is debetable. I do it because I can share a /boot between two linux distros and I use LVM for the OS and /boot can not be on an lvm |
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| 22:29.19 | Titan8990 | [Jasper]: in cases where I do neither of those things, I do it out of habit |
| 22:30.13 | Titan8990 | grub-legacy *may* have troubles with /boot on a software raid |
| 22:30.33 | Titan8990 | I have not tested so I am not sure of the exact limitations |
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| 22:40.00 | valdyn | grub-legacy knows no raid |
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| 22:43.12 | chelz | i figured it out. rubberducking in here helped though. |
| 22:43.19 | H-C | I have experienced some problems with the debian supplied XEN package |
| 22:43.29 | H-C | How can i file a bugreport? |
| 22:44.15 | valdyn | !reportbug |
| 22:44.15 | dpkg | used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 22:44.38 | H-C | thanks |
| 22:45.05 | leg- | suppose you have 2 servers over a wireless bridge, and you mount your backup folder from server 1 to server 2, and start upload of a backfile at server 2 that is located in the folder of server 1 |
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| 22:45.32 | leg- | will it then upload each file individually to somewhere temp, and start the upload to the internet, or upload the entire backup folder first and then local transfer the files? |
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| 22:46.22 | valdyn | leg-: whats a "backfile" |
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| 22:46.53 | leg- | backup file, sorry |
| 22:47.02 | valdyn | leg-: this is a very confusing description |
| 22:47.07 | leg- | need to get some mysql databases backupped |
| 22:47.19 | leg- | valdyn: which part you don't understand? |
| 22:47.43 | valdyn | leg-: which program are you using to do the backup? |
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| 22:48.07 | leg- | a tar script I made myself, but if you mean the tranfering to a backup provider: ftp |
| 22:48.26 | valdyn | leg-: "and start upload of a backfile at server 2 that is located in the folder of server 1 is confusing |
| 22:48.34 | leg- | ok so |
| 22:48.40 | leg- | backfile should be backup file, some kind of tarball |
| 22:48.48 | valdyn | leg-: yea, that part i got ) |
| 22:49.05 | leg- | so I start the ftp command to upload the first tarfile to my backupprovider, at the prompt of server 2 |
| 22:49.14 | valdyn | leg-: i see |
| 22:49.18 | leg- | but the file itself isn't physically available on server 2: it is mounted |
| 22:49.18 | Tenkawa | Anyone noticed a real bad startup flicker (fixed with a ctrl-alt f* switch away and back) with the recent radeonhd x drivers? |
| 22:49.25 | leg- | the actual location is server 1 |
| 22:49.38 | leg- | is that more clear? |
| 22:49.44 | valdyn | leg-: you can just forget about the fact that you logged into server 2 |
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| 22:49.56 | leg- | ? |
| 22:50.33 | valdyn | leg-: the place where you logged in from does not affect what your commands do |
| 22:50.44 | leg- | I know that |
| 22:51.04 | valdyn | leg-: and ftp never creates "temp" files, it just transfers |
| 22:51.11 | leg- | ok... |
| 22:51.15 | leg- | so suppose I have 3 backup files |
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| 22:51.26 | leg- | I start the first one to transfer |
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| 22:51.55 | valdyn | leg-: the file is transfered from the 'original' source to your server where its network mounted to the ftp upload destination |
| 22:51.56 | leg- | my question is, if the transfer speed to my backup provider is lower then the speed between the 2 servers |
| 22:52.31 | leg- | so it will first upload the file to server 2, and when that is finished it starts the upload to the backupprovider, right? |
| 22:52.47 | valdyn | leg-: no, it will do what the ftp client does |
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| 22:53.06 | valdyn | leg-: your ftp client will grab one block of data, transfer it, then grab the next block of data and transfer it |
| 22:53.07 | ngomes | have u guys seen kernel.org website ? |
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| 22:53.18 | valdyn | leg-: with some buffering, but it will not buffer the whole file |
| 22:53.20 | leg- | so if the transfer speed to my backup provider is lower then the speed between the 2 servers it will upload without any noticable delay |
| 22:53.31 | leg- | as in: if the files were actually on the hard drive of server 2 |
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| 22:54.13 | valdyn | leg-: that should have absolutely no effect assuming the internet link is the slowest part |
| 22:54.21 | leg- | great :) |
| 22:54.26 | leg- | that is what I needed to know...thanks valdyn |
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| 23:33.51 | amz | anybody there? |
| 23:33.54 | amz | and who have gnome |
| 23:33.57 | amz | help |
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| 23:35.31 | rfranknj | what are the sources.list entries for debian testing? for some reason my netinst disk didn't put them in there... |
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| 23:35.33 | adb | !tell amz -about install gnome |
| 23:35.50 | amz | omg |
| 23:35.52 | amz | adb: ls -la /usr/share/fonts/truetype |
| 23:35.54 | amz | and pastebin |
| 23:35.58 | amz | please |
| 23:36.16 | adb | !tell rfranknj -about sources |
| 23:36.35 | amz | adb: can you give me? |
| 23:36.37 | ngomes | should i post a wifi bug on debian or kernel ? |
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| 23:37.17 | ngomes | as drivers are from kernel |
| 23:37.35 | adb | amz, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 |
| 23:37.42 | amz | on gnome? |
| 23:37.49 | adb | yes |
| 23:37.59 | amz | no openoffice etc? |
| 23:38.09 | p8m | ngomes: If you're running a debian kernel, post the bug to debian and they will forward it if it's an upstream problem. |
| 23:38.29 | adb | amz, not here ;) |
| 23:38.48 | ngomes | p8m, where to post then ? |
| 23:39.14 | ngomes | p8m, on debian , link ? |
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| 23:39.31 | adb | !bts |
| 23:39.31 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 23:39.41 | [Jasper] | hej guys...I'm using aptitude update...how can I prevent aptitude from pickup packages from another soruce which are newer....and stick to lenny packages..unless they don''t exist in lenny? |
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| 23:41.39 | themill | [Jasper]: only have lenny in your sources.list. |
| 23:41.39 | aleray | hi, I'm looking for the french version of the coreutils info page. Is it available somewhere online ? |
| 23:41.43 | JohnWittle | Debian isn't detecting my ethernet on install |
| 23:41.51 | JohnWittle | I have ethernet plugged into my laptop and into the router |
| 23:41.55 | JohnWittle | any way I can drop to a terminal? |
| 23:42.00 | JohnWittle | and see what the actual error is? |
| 23:42.12 | [Jasper] | themill...like I said...if the packages don't exist in lenny i want it to search the other sources.. |
| 23:42.19 | amz | ls -la /usr/share/fonts/truetype <- please pastebin |
| 23:42.19 | [Jasper] | aint that possible within preferences or something? |
| 23:43.00 | themill | [Jasper]: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 23:44.40 | Anthro | I have been using (and training) SpamAssassin for years now, but it seems that its database is endian-specific or something. When I switched from a PPC box to an x86, it can't read the bayes DB. How do I fix that? |
| 23:45.01 | [Jasper] | themill I don't think you understand what I mean |
| 23:45.20 | themill | [Jasper]: I do. You're going about this the wrong way. Make backports instead. |
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| 23:45.36 | [Jasper] | I want openvz sources available |
| 23:45.42 | [Jasper] | since they create stuff etc.. |
| 23:45.54 | [Jasper] | they have a source I can use from apt |
| 23:46.03 | aleray | no idea ? |
| 23:46.13 | [Jasper] | deb http://download.openvz.org/debian-systs lenny openvz |
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| 23:46.28 | [Jasper] | only some packages overlap themill...and for those packages I want to prefer lenny files itself |
| 23:47.44 | agur | !ati |
| 23:47.44 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>, <mach64>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 23:49.25 | ezybitch | !nvidia |
| 23:49.26 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 23:50.20 | themill | [Jasper]: make a backport.... I don't know how many other ways of explaining this there are. You could try this with pinning but it will end in tears. Just make backports. |
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| 23:51.06 | JohnWittle | Okay guys |
| 23:51.11 | JohnWittle | I'm gonna need some help botting |
| 23:51.15 | JohnWittle | installing* debian |
| 23:51.22 | JohnWittle | because it isn't detecting my network |
| 23:51.42 | JohnWittle | I select the correct ethernet port, and then it complains about the network "probably" not using DHCP |
| 23:51.46 | JohnWittle | when it does |
| 23:51.52 | JohnWittle | if i could drop to a commandline and have ifconfig and stuff I could get it to work myself |
| 23:51.56 | JohnWittle | but I don't know how to do that |
| 23:52.31 | H-C | is there a debian package of a linux 2.6.33 kernel that supports xen dom0 |
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| 23:53.52 | aguitel | anyway to fix emesene in lenny? |
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| 23:55.53 | ngomes | anyone used reportbug here ? |
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| 23:56.25 | ngomes | should reportbug inform me about success post after description of the bug ? |
| 23:57.53 | dboehmer | hello |
| 23:58.09 | dboehmer | i need some help solving a pkg problem with squeeze and LXDE |
| 23:58.14 | dboehmer | http://pastebin.com/5F13uRYS |
| 23:58.29 | dboehmer | why cant this be resolved?? |
| 23:58.49 | dboehmer | is somebody here who can tell me what to do with lxde? |
| 23:59.20 | dboehmer | i have this situation for >1week and i dont think its gonna be solved by some update |
| 23:59.42 | adb | !lxde |
| 23:59.42 | dpkg | lxde is probably Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment, available for Debian since Lenny. To get LXDE, ask me about <install lxde>. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions http://www.lxde.org/ #lxde on irc.oftc.net. |
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