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| 00:00.32 | Bohemian | i have lvm installed -- how do i make my /usr larger? i am out of space and can't compile... |
| 00:01.56 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: do you have free space left in the VG? |
| 00:01.56 | Bohemian | i resized it, now how do i tell the filesystem that it's a new size? |
| 00:02.14 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: what kind of filesystem is it? |
| 00:02.22 | Bohemian | ext2 |
| 00:02.28 | abrotman | Bohemian: have you read any of the LVM documentation? |
| 00:02.44 | Bohemian | i did lvextend -L +1G /dev/mapper/islam-usr |
| 00:02.51 | Bohemian | and it successfully resized |
| 00:03.01 | Bohemian | but i know i need to tell the filesystem something to recognize it |
| 00:03.33 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: resize2fs |
| 00:04.19 | Bohemian | thank you very much |
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| 00:06.34 | FullPolarFox | hi |
| 00:06.52 | FullPolarFox | I have a night |
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| 00:08.21 | FullPolarFox | Who wanna to talk about global warming becouse debian? |
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| 00:15.28 | krisfremen | global waming... because of debian... |
| 00:15.32 | krisfremen | blames windows |
| 00:15.41 | llimeht | gentoo! |
| 00:16.19 | hramrach | bugs! blame bugs! |
| 00:16.23 | krisfremen | hmm... well... |
| 00:16.56 | krisfremen | i can't get alsa to compile because of 2.6.32 kernel headers |
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| 00:17.32 | hramrach | why do you compile it? it's in the kernel |
| 00:18.10 | krisfremen | i need the newer version |
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| 00:18.23 | krisfremen | debian doesn't have the latest version |
| 00:18.26 | hramrach | also which headers version? some are quite broken |
| 00:18.35 | krisfremen | lemme see |
| 00:19.23 | krisfremen | linux-headers-2.6.32-3-686 |
| 00:19.58 | hramrach | these should work |
| 00:20.33 | hramrach | does it build against source at all? |
| 00:20.55 | hramrach | it may be just incompatible with that kernel |
| 00:21.06 | krisfremen | the ./configure of alsa keeps complaining that some files aren't where they should be |
| 00:21.10 | linuxguy | !synaptic |
| 00:21.15 | hramrach | oss builds just fine for me, though |
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| 00:22.19 | krisfremen | but the same alsa version compiles with linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 and .28 |
| 00:22.19 | nn | Any suggestions for getting an atheros AR2413 PCI working in sid sine madwifi is gone? |
| 00:22.20 | hramrach | then it's probably not compatible or the headers are missing those files and you need full source |
| 00:22.57 | hramrach | not surprising, Linux intentionally changes API all the time |
| 00:23.19 | hramrach | out-of-kernel modules are *not* supposed to work |
| 00:23.35 | krisfremen | :( |
| 00:23.43 | hramrach | I had to change OSS version when upgrading kernel as well |
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| 00:24.32 | linuxguy | !backports |
| 00:24.33 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 00:25.11 | hramrach | nn: just plug it in? |
| 00:25.17 | nn | hramrach: hahahahahahah |
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| 00:25.33 | nn | Sorry. if it were that simple would i be here? |
| 00:25.40 | llimeht | , pciid 168c:001a |
| 00:25.41 | judd | [168c:001a] is 'AR2413 802.11bg NIC' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:001a http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k and the out-of-tree 'ath_pci' module. |
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| 00:26.39 | nn | ath5k module doesnt see it |
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| 00:27.53 | llimeht | It claims to... the relevant line from "lspci -nn" might be helpful though, as I had to guess the pciid |
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| 00:29.00 | nn | thats proper pci id |
| 00:29.14 | nn | 00:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC [168c:001a] (rev 01) |
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| 00:29.31 | enyawix | 1000hz preemptive kernel for Debian? |
| 00:30.21 | enyawix | "desktop kernel?" |
| 00:30.57 | abrotman | compile it yourself |
| 00:31.06 | llimeht | nn: yeah, so that should work according to the information for that driver. What does dmesg say about the device? |
| 00:31.45 | nn | nothing but if i do a modprobe -v i get POST FAILED from the driver and PCI INT A disabled |
| 00:31.49 | distatica | jeremy cote is on line |
| 00:31.59 | nn | the card worked a few years ago when i last put it in a machine |
| 00:32.14 | enyawix | abrotman my kernel will not boot. i need something like genkernel |
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| 00:32.17 | distatica | sorry folk |
| 00:32.20 | distatica | 4 year old |
| 00:32.35 | abrotman | enyawix: then you did it wrong |
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| 00:33.55 | enyawix | abrotman i do not know the driver for the hard drive controller. i need something like genkernel to detect it |
| 00:34.28 | abrotman | enyawix: what is wrong with the Debian kernel that is provided to you ? |
| 00:34.44 | enyawix | abrotman it is a server kernel |
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| 00:34.58 | abrotman | what is? the one you want or the one that debian gives you ? |
| 00:35.27 | enyawix | abrotman the kernel is set to 250hz |
| 00:35.32 | enyawix | that is server |
| 00:35.39 | llimeht | wtf? |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | enyawix: wrong |
| 00:36.01 | abrotman | enyawix: but if you know so much, you shouldn't have any problems compiling your own kernel .. have fun! |
| 00:36.09 | enyawix | abrotman i read your config yes it is |
| 00:36.33 | abrotman | okay .. then you should know how to create your own successfully .. |
| 00:36.40 | enyawix | this sucks i am going back to gentoo your tools suck |
| 00:36.48 | llimeht | enyawix: good bye! |
| 00:37.02 | abrotman | sad when people blame the tools for their inadequacies .. |
| 00:37.05 | nn | llimeht: think it might be bios issue or similar? |
| 00:37.15 | nn | llimeht: whats a PCI BAR? |
| 00:37.31 | dvs | hides his Durex |
| 00:37.50 | llimeht | nn: I've never seen errors like that and I don't know the hardware that you're playing with well enough to comment further, unfortunately |
| 00:38.45 | nn | llimeht: its a think client, just wondering what a PCI BAR address space collision is, i bet thats part of my problem |
| 00:39.18 | nn | unfortunately i have to go for a while, thanks for pointing me in the right direction as to the driver, it looks likes its a bios issue of some sort |
| 00:39.39 | hramrach | nn: does it say anything like that anywhere? |
| 00:40.07 | nn | hramrach: BAR address space collision? yea way early boot but i gotta run on a call |
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| 00:41.29 | hramrach | nn: then look in the bios for settings like "memory remap" "pci remap" or "PnP OS" nad try tu turn them on/off |
| 00:43.17 | hramrach | however, when the kernel detected it it might have fixed it already and the issue may be simply that the driver dose not like the card or the card broke or it is for old PCI revision and would not work in new boards |
| 00:44.22 | hramrach | recalls PCI rev issues with XI-626 or what-was-the-name cards |
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| 00:45.27 | hramrach | well, that was actually the other way around, it would not work in old PCs |
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| 00:47.27 | nat2610 | can someone explain me that http://pastie.org/874715 (I get that when I try to install libssl-dev on the Netgear NAS (that runs etch4) |
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| 00:49.21 | jetole | hey guys. I am trying to master preseeding a host as I am doing this as a proof of concept before we use it on a lot of machines. The one issue I am having is I can't find a way to automate hostname selection either through the preseed file or through the dhcp server. Can anyone recommend something |
| 00:49.24 | nat2610 | I'm a little bit lost with apt-get ... I'm more used to yum ... and I can't find how to solve that conflict |
| 00:50.12 | llimeht | nat2610: looks a lot like you're no longer running etch but you have a mixture of etch and lenny. |
| 00:50.21 | llimeht | nat2610: Care to pastebin your sources.list? |
| 00:50.28 | balrog|irssi | and I have squeeze |
| 00:51.07 | nat2610 | http://pastie.org/874720 |
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| 00:51.42 | abrotman | nat2610: why are you using etch ? |
| 00:51.58 | nat2610 | abrotman, it's a netgear nas you don'r really get to choose the OS |
| 00:52.19 | nat2610 | they have a plugin system where you can do some add on |
| 00:52.23 | nat2610 | but I can't upgrade to lenny |
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| 00:53.21 | abrotman | nat2610: odd, someone started you down that path |
| 00:53.35 | llimeht | nat2610: what's that first line from your sources.list? |
| 00:54.02 | abrotman | llimeht: the custom repo for that company |
| 00:54.17 | llimeht | hmm.... that presumably has lenny packages in it. |
| 00:54.26 | abrotman | nat2610: apt-cache policy libssl-dev ? |
| 00:54.33 | llimeht | nat2610: do you have anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 00:56.18 | nat2610 | abrotman, http://pastie.org/874728 |
| 00:56.24 | nat2610 | my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is empty |
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| 00:57.00 | nat2610 | and the first line is what came with the box |
| 00:57.35 | nat2610 | you can see more http://www.readynas.com to see those boxes, I'm playing with |
| 00:57.43 | llimeht | nat2610: "apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8" might be instructive |
| 00:58.16 | llimeht | nat2610: did you once add "lenny" to your sources.list and then remove it? |
| 00:58.56 | nat2610 | http://pastie.org/874730 |
| 00:59.08 | nat2610 | llimeht, no, I never had it |
| 00:59.27 | nat2610 | on purpose, I'm not touching to anything "on the system" |
| 00:59.37 | abrotman | nat2610: i'm sorry .. |
| 00:59.49 | abrotman | oh .. themill got it |
| 01:00.04 | llimeht | hmm... well there are some lenny packages there that don't match anything in your sources.list. How much does "aptitude search ~o" list? |
| 01:00.34 | abrotman | nat2610: or dpkg -l "*lenny*" |
| 01:00.43 | llimeht | pffft! |
| 01:01.30 | llimeht | makes abrotman try that one out |
| 01:02.02 | abrotman | wouldn't work here .. this laptop was never lenny |
| 01:02.19 | llimeht | abrotman: hint: how many packages have "lenny" in their name |
| 01:02.23 | nat2610 | llimeht, you want me to execute aptitude search ~o ? |
| 01:02.27 | abrotman | ones that have security updates |
| 01:02.29 | llimeht | nat2610: yeah |
| 01:02.34 | llimeht | abrotman: name not version |
| 01:02.47 | abrotman | llimeht: why do you think it wouldn't show up ? |
| 01:02.55 | nat2610 | http://pastie.org/874736 |
| 01:03.10 | nat2610 | (that's the dpkg -l "*lenny*" ) |
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| 01:03.28 | llimeht | abrotman: you probably wanted a "grep" in there somewhere... |
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| 01:03.38 | abrotman | damn you! |
| 01:03.41 | nat2610 | E: Unknown pattern type: o |
| 01:03.45 | nat2610 | for the aptitude |
| 01:03.53 | llimeht | bah.... old aptitude |
| 01:03.58 | nat2610 | yeah it's 2007 |
| 01:04.43 | nat2610 | but is there something I can uninstall to not have that dependency on lenny ? |
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| 01:05.41 | nat2610 | hmm not good |
| 01:05.43 | Thuuugs | Not sure if this is the correct channel, but wondering if the debian team has a TRIM supported kernel within Debian Alpha/or stock Debian 5 availiable |
| 01:05.56 | llimeht | I wonder if that's a botched attempt at fixing DSA1571 there. |
| 01:06.19 | abrotman | eh .. #debian-alpha on oftc only has two people in it |
| 01:06.31 | abrotman | oh .. wrong kind of alpha |
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| 01:07.22 | nat2610 | I might have an idea on where those libssl package are coming from ... |
| 01:08.01 | nat2610 | to enable the ssl server, you need to install a plugin and I bet this plugin install those lib |
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| 01:19.15 | Katy87 | invite |
| 01:19.32 | abrotman | what? |
| 01:19.37 | Katy87 | http://www.newsexyemilie.com/?521145 |
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| 01:28.35 | Bohemian | sighs |
| 01:28.43 | Bohemian | why does compiling kernels take so damn long |
| 01:29.01 | jsumners | it's a large code base |
| 01:29.06 | Bohemian | i know. |
| 01:29.10 | dondelelcaro | Bohemian: why compile them? and generally speaking, they don't take all to terribly long on reasonable hardware |
| 01:29.14 | Bohemian | it's been like two hours and i want to go to bed |
| 01:29.30 | Bohemian | spring break is suppose to be nice, not a challenge |
| 01:29.39 | abrotman | Bohemian: why are you compiling a kernel at all ? |
| 01:29.40 | wedge | and debian by default has like every kernel option known to man selected as a module for maximum compatibility |
| 01:29.48 | wedge | means compilation will take an arseload of time |
| 01:29.49 | Bohemian | because i wanted grsecurity |
| 01:30.06 | wedge | you can deselect unecessary modules and not compile them in, should decrease the compilation time |
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| 01:30.36 | wedge | stuff like ISA support, pcmci on non-laptop systems, ham-radio and stuff like that which for some reason debian maintainers think should be selected as modules |
| 01:30.59 | wedge | hope that answers your question Bohemian |
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| 01:33.04 | Bohemian | well, i convinced my boss to get a vps with 1gb of ram for 60/month |
| 01:33.07 | Bohemian | not bad, i think |
| 01:33.23 | wedge | dollars? |
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| 01:33.39 | wedge | otherwise that may be a bit expensive imo *in hosting field of business* |
| 01:34.03 | Bohemian | USD, yes |
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| 02:20.36 | Bohemian | i just waited three hours to compile a kernel with grsecurity... http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building i followed this: now i can't get the system to boot with this kernel |
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| 02:21.17 | Bohemian | at bootup, it just hangs at Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)...ok |
| 02:23.20 | Bohemian | now i get another screen, after a lot of text loaded |
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| 02:24.06 | Bohemian | [0.728002] calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency... 3989.64 bogoMIPS (1pj=7979284) |
| 02:24.11 | Bohemian | any suggestions? |
| 02:24.39 | wedge | what did you do? |
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| 02:25.01 | devin_ | what file do I edit to comment old kernel lines in grub2, /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?? |
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| 02:25.56 | wedge | menu.lst |
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| 02:26.18 | wedge | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 02:26.28 | mrrcp | how do i install the openvpn webadmin ui |
| 02:27.31 | Bohemian | wedge: i just picked the grsec kernel i setup and tried to boot it (turned the quiet option off) |
| 02:27.35 | Bohemian | still hung at that screen |
| 02:27.41 | Bohemian | google has given me no tips |
| 02:27.52 | devin_ | wedge there is nomore /boot/grub/menu.lst atleast not in debian in squeeze |
| 02:27.58 | wedge | sorry I dont use grsec often, it induces more trouble than it solves Bohemian |
| 02:27.59 | devin_ | first place i looked |
| 02:28.08 | wedge | devin_: ah. hold on |
| 02:28.24 | wedge | grub.conf what does it look like? |
| 02:28.33 | abrotman | devin_: menu.lst is wrong |
| 02:28.36 | wedge | does it have have the usual entries for default etc ? |
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| 02:28.49 | abrotman | devin_: if you don't want old kernels, uninstall them |
| 02:29.09 | Bohemian | wedge: this is my third time trying... are there other hardened sources? |
| 02:29.15 | Bohemian | i know gentoo has a bunch, but debian? |
| 02:29.55 | wedge | sometimes old kernels need to be left in place. im sorry Bohemian I havent started using squeeze, lenny uses menu.lst and that's the one i've been editing |
| 02:30.10 | wedge | im sure other knowledgable users in here can help you with grub on squeeze |
| 02:30.12 | abrotman | no, grub1 uses menu.lst |
| 02:30.18 | abrotman | lenny has nothing to do with it |
| 02:30.24 | devin_ | abrotman, thats what I was going to do, but getting alil confused, im using Linux debian 2.6.32-trunk-686 and the other one is 2.6.32 also with out the trunk do you know the difference? |
| 02:30.29 | wedge | abrotman: he said he couldnt find it on squeeze :S |
| 02:30.38 | abrotman | wedge: because he's using grub2 |
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| 02:30.51 | wedge | ah , *goes to read up* |
| 02:30.57 | wedge | didnt know they finally got that into debian |
| 02:31.18 | abrotman | devin_: okay .. i will tell you that the -3- that is now installed for whatever reason doesn't end up the default, so i've been selecting it at the grub prompt, then removing the -trunk- (assuming it works correctly) |
| 02:31.26 | abrotman | wedge: are you serious? it's been in for ages |
| 02:31.32 | abrotman | have you ever used debian ? |
| 02:31.51 | wedge | been using lenny, menu.lst still seems to be used here? |
| 02:32.05 | abrotman | you're using grub1 .. i already explained this |
| 02:33.27 | devin_ | abrotman hmm. probably have to redo nvidia drivers if I use it i never booted into yet to see if I even could ill have to check later |
| 02:33.40 | abrotman | devin_: very likely |
| 02:34.10 | abrotman | devin_: so make sure the new -3- works correctly before you purge the -trunk- |
| 02:34.23 | wedge | abrotman: is grub 2 default in lenny? |
| 02:34.43 | abrotman | no, but it's available |
| 02:34.49 | wedge | I thought i heard that being proposed a while back, but I didnt notice it when they finally brought it out |
| 02:34.56 | abrotman | and i've used it successfully for quite some time |
| 02:35.02 | wedge | hence why I didnt think of grub2 |
| 02:35.10 | abrotman | grub2 is the default installed bootloader now with squeeze |
| 02:35.18 | devin_ | abrotman yes, I've made that mistake quite a few times ended up with kernel panic |
| 02:35.22 | abrotman | on i386/amd64 anyways |
| 02:36.01 | k-man | is there a system monitor that can email me if hdd space drops below a certain threshold? |
| 02:36.23 | twiggz | gkrellm |
| 02:36.39 | twiggz | aptitude install gkrellm |
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| 02:36.58 | twiggz | lots of folks like conky, but its much more hoggy |
| 02:37.06 | abrotman | i think he means .. a non-GUI one |
| 02:37.06 | twiggz | and i think it sucks. |
| 02:37.10 | k-man | twiggz: err... that requires X doesn't it? |
| 02:37.15 | k-man | yeah, non gui is what im after |
| 02:37.18 | twiggz | oh i see |
| 02:37.32 | abrotman | cause .. you know .. if you could just watch it, why would you want it to email you ? |
| 02:37.34 | k-man | its a server that i ssh to, i have no gui access to it |
| 02:37.43 | Zharf | gkrellm doesn't suck? that's a new one |
| 02:37.56 | Zharf | but then I haven't used it in 5 years or so |
| 02:37.57 | twiggz | it doesnt suck as much as conky. |
| 02:38.01 | k-man | and personally, i never really liked gkrellm |
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| 02:38.22 | twiggz | conky consumes more resources.. |
| 02:38.25 | k-man | monit |
| 02:38.28 | k-man | that might do the trick |
| 02:38.44 | Zharf | but if I look at general linux development during the past 5 years.. gkrellm must suck a lot more these days |
| 02:38.47 | Zharf | unless it's an anomaly |
| 02:40.08 | twiggz | gkrellm is accurate, and consumes less resources and has hundreds of themes available at muhri.net to suit any desktop |
| 02:40.52 | twiggz | conky, you have to be bothered with your own config unless you steal someones..or waste time and make your own.. |
| 02:41.44 | Zharf | I bet there's no theme to suit my desktop! |
| 02:42.04 | twiggz | the glass theme blends with any desktop. |
| 02:42.08 | twiggz | for gkrellm |
| 02:42.12 | twiggz | :) |
| 02:42.34 | twiggz | so does the invisible theme. |
| 02:42.50 | twiggz | there are 3 glass themes btw... |
| 02:43.01 | twiggz | yeah, you will lose your bet. |
| 02:43.08 | abrotman | move on already .. jeez |
| 02:43.18 | Zharf | my "desktop" is a terminal |
| 02:43.26 | twiggz | abrotman: do you just have it in for me or what? |
| 02:43.35 | twiggz | we are carrying on a nice convo. |
| 02:43.43 | abrotman | you're not even talking to anyone .. you're just talking for the sake of talking |
| 02:44.06 | twiggz | No, I am talking to Zharf, and he acknowledges me talking to him. |
| 02:44.24 | abrotman | yeah .. you keep thinking that |
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| 02:45.09 | twiggz | Oh, he just keeps replying to me for no reason. |
| 02:45.14 | twiggz | quit beng a jackass. |
| 02:45.18 | twiggz | really. |
| 02:45.23 | simonrvn | ... |
| 02:45.47 | twiggz | ive done nothing derogatory |
| 02:45.52 | Zharf | I'm obviously replying for the sake of replying |
| 02:46.02 | Zharf | which I am |
| 02:46.04 | twiggz | still, you are replying. |
| 02:46.13 | abrotman | so stop already |
| 02:46.15 | twiggz | which constitutes a conversation. |
| 02:46.36 | simonrvn | oh ffs, all of you stop stopping and do it already. |
| 02:46.47 | twiggz | haha |
| 02:46.53 | Zharf | stops |
| 02:47.17 | simonrvn | thank you *sigh of relief* |
| 02:47.31 | twiggz | abrotman just cant stand me, hes known all across this network as the shitbird whose buddy buddy with a higher up that gets to do what he wants....I know the deal. |
| 02:47.32 | simonrvn | now, group hug |
| 02:47.49 | simonrvn | twiggz: oh please. SHUT UP. |
| 02:47.57 | twiggz | sorry, its true. |
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| 02:48.04 | simonrvn | it's not |
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| 02:48.07 | nvz | abrotman is not a shitbird.. cause shitbirds don't have beards |
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| 02:48.37 | nvz | wait, that doesn't make any sense.. :-P |
| 02:48.45 | simonrvn | he went and wrecked the group hug. what manners. |
| 02:48.54 | nvz | I know, right?! |
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| 02:48.57 | nervoustwitch | !offtopic |
| 02:48.58 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. Please join #debian-offtopic |
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| 03:09.21 | RA3OR | does anyone know how i can recover data from a broken raid0_stripping ? |
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| 03:27.00 | Suono | Is it in any way possible to apt-get install MySQL 5.5? |
| 03:32.05 | adb | , versions mysql-admin |
| 03:32.05 | judd | mysql-admin -- etch: 1.2.5rc-2; etch-backports: 5.0~rc12-2~bpo40+1; lenny: 5.0r12-1; sid: 5.0r14+openSUSE-2; squeeze: 5.0r14+openSUSE-2 |
| 03:32.27 | adb | 5.5 is not here |
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| 03:37.18 | Suono | Where can I find the direct download links for MySQL 5.5? |
| 03:37.35 | Suono | mysql.com makes the download process a real pain in the ass |
| 03:37.49 | k-man | Suono: i hate when vendors do that, its so annoying |
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| 03:38.44 | Zharf | they're trying to tell you not to use their crap |
| 03:38.51 | Zharf | ;) |
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| 03:44.35 | Thuuugs | so jst installed debian alpha |
| 03:44.44 | Thuuugs | and cant seem to have data=writeback in fstab |
| 03:44.49 | Thuuugs | completly stops server booting |
| 03:44.50 | Thuuugs | ideas? |
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| 03:46.17 | dbgi | does debian/ and linux in general, is there jails you can make like on the bsd's? |
| 03:49.28 | tensorpudding | There are some packages that have some scripts to help make chroot jails, but I'm pretty sure that you can't get the level of sophistication that FreeBSD jails have. |
| 03:50.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | dbgi: what do they do? there are chroots and things like kvm |
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| 03:51.21 | Rapsodius | Help! my X server doesn't want to init |
| 03:51.29 | Rapsodius | here is my log: http://paste2.org/p/722276 |
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| 03:54.18 | Rapsodius | and specifically the error is: error setting MTRR |
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| 03:59.38 | Rapsodius | anyone? |
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| 04:00.39 | Rapsodius | man, don't keep your answers coming too fast <grin> |
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| 04:14.06 | dbgi | tensorpudding ok thanks man, appreciate the answer |
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| 04:14.48 | dbgi | is there anything to use to secure sumthen thats does what a jail does basically |
| 04:15.50 | dbgi | or can you on linux, asign just certain ip/ip's to one user/shell for where noone else has access to use? |
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| 04:18.24 | gbear14275 | hey guys, am hoping for a pointer... I just tried to install debian by usb stick but the only network connection I had was a wpa2 wireless connection. I couldn't figure out how to connect to this during setup so I only installed a bare bones system. Could someone point me to a howto on setting up debian from scratch? I'm really hoping there might be some hope of connecting to a wpa2 wireless network but am resigned to fi |
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| 04:25.36 | pallgone | gbear14275: don't you have cable then? it's much easier... |
| 04:26.23 | gbear14275 | yeah I think i'm resigned to having to find a wired connection |
| 04:26.39 | gbear14275 | got a howto from that point on? I've never had to configure a connection through bash before |
| 04:26.58 | pallgone | wired or wifi? |
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| 04:27.48 | pallgone | actually you could get wifi running from the cli too |
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| 04:28.47 | gbear14275 | either would be great pallgone... the only issue is are the WPA driver files installed on a base system? Thats probably one of my main questions |
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| 04:29.40 | gbear14275 | or is that all whats been compiled into the kernel? (so a new kernel should be ok) |
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| 04:30.11 | pallgone | try 'which wpa_supplicant' |
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| 04:30.41 | pallgone | or 'ls /usr/sbin/wpa*' |
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| 04:32.56 | pallgone | !wifi |
| 04:32.56 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 04:33.05 | gbear14275 | ok will note that (its a dual boot from this system so I'm going to have to try it away from the irc channel |
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| 04:33.38 | gbear14275 | <whats my wireless> |
| 04:33.52 | gbear14275 | hmm... um lol, |
| 04:33.58 | pallgone | if you have wpa_supplicant and the wirless device shows up in 'iwconfig' you are ready to go |
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| 04:34.47 | gbear14275 | i know my device shows up in iwconfig |
| 04:34.53 | gbear14275 | I could see my wireless device there |
| 04:35.02 | gbear14275 | but i didn't check on wpa_supplicant |
| 04:36.22 | pallgone | but the whole thing is a little bit complicated and if you have not web to check the wiki it's a hassle |
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| 04:38.02 | pallgone | so maybe better get a cable... should normally work without any config (just reboot or '/etc/init.d/networking restart' |
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| 05:43.43 | n-iCe | have anyone installed Debian from a usb? |
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| 06:08.56 | jetole | does anyone know how to setup preseeding to deselect files that are part of the base install? |
| 06:09.56 | jetole | or deselect packages I should say |
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| 06:27.43 | ineedhelp | hello friends |
| 06:28.16 | ineedhelp | can someone tell me if mysql-server 5.1 is available in any apt-repository of Lenny?? |
| 06:30.02 | ineedhelp | or can someone tell me how can i add this to my apt repostiry list http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mysql-server-5.1 |
| 06:30.03 | ineedhelp | ?? |
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| 06:34.09 | Arrowmaster | judd versions mysql-server |
| 06:34.10 | judd | mysql-server -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8; etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch12; etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny3; sid: 5.1.43-1; lenny-backports: 5.1.44-3~bpo50+1; sid: 5.1.44-3; squeeze: 5.1.44-3 |
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| 06:34.32 | Arrowmaster | ineedhelp: backports.org |
| 06:34.49 | Arrowmaster | or |
| 06:34.56 | ineedhelp | hmmm |
| 06:35.03 | Arrowmaster | hmm where is dpkg |
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| 06:35.51 | macrobat | ,versions mysql-server |
| 06:35.52 | judd | mysql-server -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8; etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch12; etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny3; sid: 5.1.43-1; lenny-backports: 5.1.44-3~bpo50+1; sid: 5.1.44-3; squeeze: 5.1.44-3 |
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| 06:36.47 | ineedhelp | nice bot |
| 06:37.23 | Arrowmaster | the other one seems to still be lost on the other side of a netsplit |
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| 06:39.27 | ineedhelp | tell me one thing.. i already have 5.0 installed... do i have to remove it first?? |
| 06:39.48 | ineedhelp | i added back port... but it says mysql is already the latest version |
| 06:41.01 | ineedhelp | o o |
| 06:41.02 | ineedhelp | i got it |
| 06:41.33 | ineedhelp | judd thanks |
| 06:41.34 | ineedhelp | ;) |
| 06:41.58 | ineedhelp | judd say hello |
| 06:42.26 | ineedhelp | judd say i love u |
| 06:42.30 | jetole | judd: good girl |
| 06:42.42 | jetole | ah I like that with fajita bot in httpd |
| 06:42.52 | ineedhelp | heheh |
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| 06:43.09 | judd | (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
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| 06:43.26 | ineedhelp | judd versions love |
| 06:43.28 | judd | love -- sid: 0.5.0-2; squeeze: 0.5.0-2 |
| 06:43.42 | ineedhelp | love sidd and than squeeze her? |
| 06:43.53 | ineedhelp | thats what she wanna say? |
| 06:44.17 | spersaud | hehe this ad is funny "get puma quality hosting at domestic cat prices" |
| 06:46.01 | ineedhelp | lol |
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| 07:02.31 | Hornstar | I had this linux job but then I realized I was doing work for free when an Indian gets paid for it. What should I do? |
| 07:03.28 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
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| 07:05.23 | Hornstar | MAKE AN OPERATING SYSTEM THAT DOES SOMETHING |
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| 07:26.17 | niklaswe | hmm when i doing dpkg -l.. where can i see what rc and that stuff means. |
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| 07:32.07 | macrobat | man dpkg :) |
| 07:32.30 | macrobat | ii means it is installed |
| 07:32.41 | Riviera | well |
| 07:32.47 | Riviera | just check the first lines of output |
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| 07:32.53 | Riviera | there it's explained. |
| 07:33.37 | Riviera | oh, less verbose in the English locale :/ |
| 07:34.04 | simonrvn | dpkg -l | head -n 6 |
| 07:34.05 | dpkg | No packages found matching | head -n 6 |
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| 07:38.33 | liable | remove, config files remain |
| 07:38.41 | liable | removed* |
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| 07:46.57 | d1b | is there are reason for this? |
| 07:47.00 | d1b | a * |
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| 07:48.27 | simonrvn | accidental k:line there |
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| 07:50.01 | wols | d1b: cause linux is not posix? or what manpages do you miss |
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| 07:51.27 | wols | d1b: manpages-dev I guess |
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| 08:07.30 | MoMo2 | bad option as my error, sorry |
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| 08:46.16 | Vmanz | waves to the room |
| 08:46.26 | Pierreb | anyone know where i can find a debian package for hp storageworks agent? |
| 08:46.26 | BoatShoe | is this about classic mechanics? |
| 08:46.54 | liable | BoatShoe: nope |
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| 08:47.04 | BoatShoe | really |
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| 08:47.24 | BoatShoe | you are not liable |
| 08:48.08 | BoatShoe | just here to learn, as an architect, and ask questions |
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| 08:48.29 | wols | !debian |
| 08:48.29 | dpkg | i guess debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 08:48.48 | suw | hello |
| 08:49.04 | BoatShoe | am i in a place where i can ask questions? |
| 08:49.35 | wols | if they are debian related questions, yes. to see what debian is, see debian.org |
| 08:49.38 | liable | about debian, yes. about classic mechanics, no |
| 08:49.50 | suw | anyone know how to set postfix+ploicyd-weight to quota send mails from my domains? - I want to limit a domain that's mass mailing from our server - without our acceptance. |
| 08:49.53 | BoatShoe | i see |
| 08:50.19 | BoatShoe | anyone have any questions about actually building? |
| 08:50.31 | wols | BoatShoe: please stop that |
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| 08:50.33 | BoatShoe | lol |
| 08:50.41 | BoatShoe | just kidding |
| 08:51.36 | BoatShoe | i was directed here |
| 08:51.50 | BoatShoe | apparently it was a mistake |
| 08:52.59 | suw | not necessary with policyd - if anyone know how to quota send mails from server based on local domains please help |
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| 08:59.53 | Posterdati | hi |
| 09:00.16 | Posterdati | please I need help with emdebian: how can I install emdebian on an arm board? |
| 09:00.48 | wols | !emdebian |
| 09:00.48 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 09:01.37 | suw | anyone have any clue how to set postfix quota for send out mails? - I want to limit my domains to send more than 100 mails per hour |
| 09:02.30 | wols | suw: you think you get answers by annoying people with repeating? |
| 09:03.02 | suw | wols: I think any answer is better than no answer - isn't that true? |
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| 09:03.45 | wols | answers from annoyed people? |
| 09:04.13 | suw | wols: my english is not my native language - i tought maybe I ask the wrong question. |
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| 09:04.53 | suw | wols: and people does not understand what I need - now I know - nobody can help me. |
| 09:05.36 | llutz | suw: http://www.policyd.org/tiki-index.php?page=ModuleFeatures |
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| 09:06.47 | suw | llutz: I was there - I didn't find any documentation about quota - just notes. |
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| 09:07.07 | suw | llutz: that it is capable to make quota |
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| 09:07.52 | wols | suw: http://www.policyd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Quotas&structure=Documentation that even has an example to tell you hoe to configure it for your application |
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| 09:07.55 | jelly-home | suw: have you tried asking #postfix ? |
| 09:07.57 | sdousley|work | Hi All, I'm getting an error appear on a machine stating that nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. From what I read, this is in relation to nat translations, however, the server in question doesn't do any NAT. Anyone know how I can disable this, or get around the issue? |
| 09:08.26 | suw | jelly-home: yes - nobody answered. |
| 09:08.32 | jelly-home | suw: be patient |
| 09:08.57 | wols | sdousley|work: so what netfilter stuff does it do? |
| 09:09.02 | Sebby | hello |
| 09:09.28 | sdousley|work | wols: the machine is a mailbackup machine, that simply accepts mail, so it has an iptables firewall to block pretty much all traffic except port 25 |
| 09:09.31 | suw | wols: thank you for the link. |
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| 09:10.02 | wols | sdousley|work: and how is it blocked? |
| 09:10.13 | sdousley|work | as in the rules in iptables? |
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| 09:11.02 | k-man | how do i tell which /dev/sd[a-z] device /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-S_5QF2MNLZ-part2 maps to? |
| 09:11.17 | jelly-home | sdousley|work: you can get rid of the --state rules in your iptables rules and use stateless ones instead. However once conntrack module is loaded, it keeps tracking connections so you'll have to unload the relevant kernel modules, too |
| 09:11.54 | sdousley|work | jelly-home: ah, ok, I dont think we have any --state rules in the firewall setup, but I'll have a look |
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| 09:15.05 | llutz | suw: you hadn't read that site, go to support-documentation. there's a complete example too. |
| 09:15.18 | krion | hi |
| 09:16.13 | suw | llutz: I was there and read it, I still does not understand what to edit, where to add those settings - my policyd-weight does not have any config file. |
| 09:17.08 | suw | llutz: and btw - documentation say it's for 2.x debian policyd is 1.x |
| 09:17.47 | wols | Sebby: edit your /etc/network/interfaces to have a permanent IP address for the interface and clamp your MTU for your NAT connection problem |
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| 09:18.24 | suw | llutz: policyd-weight 0.1.14.17-5 , postfix 2.5.5-1.1 |
| 09:18.49 | wols | ,versions policyd-weight |
| 09:18.51 | judd | policyd-weight -- etch: 0.1.14-beta-6etch2; etch-security: 0.1.14-beta-6etch2; lenny: 0.1.14.17-5; squeeze: 0.1.14.17-5; sid: 0.1.15.1-2 |
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| 09:22.47 | sdousley|work | jelly-home: I've just looked in the firewall rule set, and we do have: /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state EXTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
| 09:23.00 | sdousley|work | are you suggesting we remove the --state from that? or the rule entirely? |
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| 09:23.11 | Sebby | wols i`ve open /etc/network/interfaces in pico but i don`t know how to add the ip addres for eth1 |
| 09:23.30 | wols | man interfaces |
| 09:23.35 | llutz | suw: that policydv1 was "postfix-policyd" not policyd-weight. so if you need the new features of v2, build it yourself |
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| 09:23.56 | Sebby | that take longer then if you would tell me |
| 09:24.07 | suw | llutz: ok thank you |
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| 09:24.35 | wols | Sebby: ignoreing you frm now on due to your exceptional lazines takes even less time for me. WIN! |
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| 09:24.44 | Sebby | when i set the eth1 ip address i`ve set it like this: ifconfig eth1 192.168.10.1 |
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| 09:26.05 | Sebby | wold manny people are telling me man or google things that i can do but those can worse a situation if i missunderstand something |
| 09:26.44 | wols | hint: less whining on #debiam. more manpage reading |
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| 09:27.03 | tamash | Sebby: man interfaces |
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| 09:29.33 | cast | OT: i've decided the main problem i have in IT is that everyone thinks they can do everything because its just a matter of reading the manual, but none of them actually do read the manual |
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| 09:31.28 | visof | hi |
| 09:31.46 | visof | can please anyone see if that work or not , visof.mine.nu ? |
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| 09:32.33 | tamash | visof: no it does not |
| 09:32.47 | tamash | visof: unable to connect (firefox complains) |
| 09:32.57 | visof | thanks tamash |
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| 09:37.15 | visof | that http://pastie.org/875146 doesn't work for me |
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| 09:37.32 | visof | my lan use DHCP starting ip is 192.168.1.3 |
| 09:37.44 | visof | and i want to get static ip 192.168.1.2 |
| 09:38.00 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 09:38.00 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 09:38.48 | visof | i'm currently use DHCP when i change it to static ip with the information in the file i paste i don't get a network |
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| 09:39.04 | visof | is there a problem with my config file |
| 09:39.22 | wols | there is a problem with your description skills. your interfaces file looks fine |
| 09:39.55 | wols | cause you are still saying "doesn't work" just with different words |
| 09:40.05 | visof | yeah |
| 09:40.12 | visof | so what should i say |
| 09:40.43 | wols | !tekk visof -about smart questions |
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| 09:40.49 | wols | !tell visof -about smart questions |
| 09:41.46 | Sebby | wols i`ve read the man as you talled me and i made some modifications can you cake a look if i`ll pastebin? and also a question: do i need to reboot the entire system or i can restart the networking only? |
| 09:42.00 | Sebby | take* |
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| 09:43.00 | buntfalke | How to know the hour a process was started, if it runs for more than 24hrs already? |
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| 09:46.13 | jmd | What do I have to do to allow an ssh session to work properly when non-ascii characters are entered? |
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| 09:47.11 | _KaszpiR_ | jmd see LANG shell variable |
| 09:47.27 | _KaszpiR_ | and LC_ALL |
| 09:47.40 | _KaszpiR_ | for example i got LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 09:47.47 | jmd | _KaszpiR_: Yes. LANG is set correctly. |
| 09:47.48 | _KaszpiR_ | then in terminal you must got also utf-8 encoding |
| 09:47.55 | jmd | en_US.UTF-8 |
| 09:48.07 | jmd | and the terminal is also utf-8 |
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| 09:48.27 | _KaszpiR_ | are you sure your app is utf-8 compatible? :D |
| 09:48.49 | jmd | My app? You mean bash? It has been at least since 10 years. |
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| 09:49.40 | jmd | Or do you mean ssh itself? That is supposed to be charset agnostic. |
| 09:49.54 | _KaszpiR_ | ;D |
| 09:49.57 | _KaszpiR_ | well, works for me |
| 09:49.58 | visof_ | is that working for anyone visof.yi.org ?? |
| 09:50.18 | wols | visof_: #networking for these questions, not #debian |
| 09:50.28 | visof_ | wols ok |
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| 09:50.36 | jmd | _KaszpiR_: Over a remote terminal? |
| 09:50.48 | _KaszpiR_ | uhum |
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| 09:51.35 | wols | jmd: umlatus work for me fine. LANG=de_DE@euro ISO9958-15 IIRC |
| 09:51.39 | wols | *umlauts |
| 09:51.46 | ethanol | would it be hard to make a group which only has sftp access and can upload all to a specific folder (but individual users should not be able to see/overwrite each others files) ? |
| 09:52.23 | extor | I just did a lenny debootstrap installation but when I do an ls /lenny-chroot/boot/ that directory is empty! Is that normal? |
| 09:52.27 | jmd | wols: ISO9958 ??? |
| 09:52.36 | jmd | you mean ISO-8859 |
| 09:52.42 | extor | I followed the wikie here: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 09:53.50 | wols | extor: install a kernel and grub |
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| 09:54.18 | extor | wols, uhmm...so i gotta build the whole /boot/grub directory tree myself? |
| 09:54.33 | extor | Do I chroot to the debstrap install and apt-get a kernel + grub then? |
| 09:54.34 | wols | what makes you think you have to? |
| 09:54.44 | extor | uhmm iono the wiki doesnt say |
| 09:56.01 | wols | extor: have you read the proper thing for installing. the install guide? (note how it's named...) |
| 09:56.01 | manu_hack | hi, i remember there is a nice cmd line program to convert .jpg files containing text to text , anyone knows the name of the program? |
| 09:56.01 | manu_hack | i'm doing a search without luck ... |
| 09:56.01 | extor | wols I read the wiki page, what guide is there for debootstrap and where is it? |
| 09:56.11 | wols | extor: you didn't read the wiki page |
| 09:56.44 | extor | http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap <-- yes I did |
| 09:57.05 | wols | no you did not. if you did, you wouldn't have asked what you did |
| 09:57.08 | wols | now read it |
| 09:57.34 | wols | !tell extor about ig |
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| 10:09.55 | manu_hack | got it, called ocrad, thx anyway |
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| 10:34.48 | subsu | In order to install the 2.6.32 kernel on lenny 5.0.4 without internet connection, can I just download the linux-image-2.6.32 from backports and install it with dpkg? |
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| 10:36.42 | jmd | subsu: No. Because without an internet connection, you cant download anything. |
| 10:36.54 | subsu | I have more than one computer |
| 10:37.34 | wols | yes just download it |
| 10:37.34 | jmd | But are they interconnected ? |
| 10:37.42 | subsu | nope, usbstick |
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| 10:38.05 | subsu | the 2.6.26 kernel does not support my new shiny intel NIC... |
| 10:38.13 | jmd | That's an interconnection - albeit a rather rudimentary one. |
| 10:38.20 | subsu | jmd: true |
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| 10:39.00 | Rossonero | hi |
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| 10:39.58 | trone | Hi there.I've a weird problem and don't understand what's up. I'm on debian 5.0.4, kernel 2.6.26-2-686. Sometimes the box works, other not when it have to start X. Seem random behaviour. I tryed to change desktop manager (from gdm to xdm), but when I've started it with /etc/init.d/xdm start this "close" the box. The lights on the case remain on, but it don't get input and close remote connection (no ssh). So I have to restart. |
| 10:40.39 | trone | When I restarted it, xdm work and all go right. But also this seem random. Someone have advice about what search? |
| 10:40.45 | Rossonero | when I run this script in crontab : [ -e /tmp/r_squid ] && (invoke-rc.d squid stop & rm /tmp/r_squid) for every minute.. it doesn't work for me |
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| 10:41.04 | Rossonero | especially the part when I have: invoke-rc.d squid stop |
| 10:41.19 | Rossonero | but when I run it in normal command line it works fine |
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| 10:41.57 | subsu | Rossonero: it might be best to use full paths when running stuff as cron jobs |
| 10:42.16 | k-man | out of the blue, my computer kernel panics at boot time with "Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work" do you think its a hardware issue given that its been booting fine for months, and i have not made any modifications to the system recently? |
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| 10:42.39 | Rossonero | subsu, you mean replacing invoke-rc.d by /etc/init.d/squid stop ? |
| 10:42.49 | subsu | Rossonero: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d instead of just invoke-rc.d |
| 10:43.02 | Rossonero | ok |
| 10:43.08 | Rossonero | I will test it |
| 10:43.25 | subsu | and even /bin/rm instead of rm just to be sure |
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| 10:43.59 | Nurbs | You can also set the PATH in your crontab |
| 10:46.26 | trone | My problem indeed is that the system crash when X start, not just X... And don't understand what I can to do. |
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| 10:49.06 | subsu | trone: I had a similar problem that went away when I disabled AutoAddDevices in xorg.conf it went away. Don't know if that was the real reason though |
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| 10:50.59 | trone | subsu: I havent that value, but I look for similar things. However, for me is amazing that the box crashes starting xdm |
| 10:51.12 | subsu | trone: But my machine didn't always freeze completely, sometimes X died, inputdevices stopped working but I could still ssh into the box |
| 10:52.03 | subsu | trone: no, you're probably using HAL to detect devices. |
| 10:52.11 | wols | k-man: is it a multicore cpu? you can disable your apic with "noapic" on the kernek commandline |
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| 10:54.17 | Rossonero | subsu, that's true.. crontab need the absolute path.. but I have found something invoke-rc.d is slow.. because it will call /etc/init.d/ scripts before stopping squid.. so the best is to use /etc/init.d in crontab |
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| 10:56.52 | subsu | trone: Posted the relevant parts of my xorg.conf if you want some hints http://pastebin.com/XFA3xCBg |
| 10:57.22 | trone | subsu: thankyou. I see it right now |
| 10:57.38 | subsu | just don't forget to backup:) |
| 10:57.59 | trone | subsu: gh. :-) yep. thanks again |
| 10:58.30 | subsu | trone: np. but as I said, I didn't verify that this was the actual problem, it just worked after that and I was happy |
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| 11:04.55 | otaku_coder | hi room, question about apache. I'm trying to give the web developers access to live site directories for SCP access. would it be best to add their user to the www-data group or create a new webdev group, add their user acc to that and also change the group apache runs as? |
| 11:05.21 | wols | !room |
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| 11:09.42 | jmd | otaku_coder: I suggest that you try #apache |
| 11:10.01 | valdyn | hes proposing the name of the www-data group, thats a noop |
| 11:10.03 | valdyn | or silly |
| 11:10.11 | valdyn | hes proposing to change the name of the www-data group, thats a noop |
| 11:11.39 | jmd | Or #httpd or whatever it's called. |
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| 11:12.50 | jmd | otaku_coder: Also, I suggest that you avoid Leet speak such as "room". Some people refuse to talk to people who indulge in that kind of language. |
| 11:15.01 | petemc | very useful answers both |
| 11:15.57 | petemc | otaku_coder: adding them to the www-data group is common enough |
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| 11:17.20 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 11:17.27 | Agiofws | can someone help me here please ? |
| 11:17.30 | Agiofws | 5.52 of 28 February 2005, by Debian. Original by Info-ZIP. ? |
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| 11:28.10 | otaku_coder | didn't realise 'room' was a l337 word! apologies. I'll ask in #apache for clarification, but thanks |
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| 11:30.39 | frankf | good day gentlemen |
| 11:30.42 | frankf | and ladies of course |
| 11:31.12 | hramrach | Hello |
| 11:31.43 | hramrach | any reason why acpid would break again? |
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| 11:32.29 | frankf | i'm using debian lenny on a intel quad core with 4gb ram and i'm wondering about the performance of various hypervisors for running other guest operating systems. |
| 11:32.56 | frankf | so far i've tried windows in kvm with a raw file as a hard disk for windows |
| 11:33.01 | frankf | IO sucks |
| 11:33.37 | frankf | now i was wondering if i should try lvm for the windows hard disk to improve the io |
| 11:33.45 | frankf | (or could this be nonsense?) |
| 11:34.03 | frankf | also: might xen be faster regarding windows virtual machines? |
| 11:34.26 | hramrach | for me IO is actually better than native in Windows even runnign from an USB disk |
| 11:34.47 | hramrach | but it might be that it's a different disk from / and /home |
| 11:34.52 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 11:35.16 | hramrach | also depends on the IO you do |
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| 11:35.44 | hramrach | I am more interested in seek performance than raw sequential throughput |
| 11:36.10 | sep | frankf, does it also not depends on what kind of bus you emulate ide vs scsi vs virtio ? |
| 11:36.10 | hramrach | which obviously benefits from Linux's cache |
| 11:36.35 | frankf | there's virtio for windows guests? |
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| 11:38.49 | frankf | or let me refine my question: i need to have a windows installation (for some crappy admin kit), but i don't want to buy a commercial thingy like vmware, neither do i want to waste dedicated hardware for windows. which setup would be best for an acceptable windows installation? |
| 11:39.45 | frankf | kvm/scsi? kvm/virtio (if there is something like that)? xen? would lvm improve the io? |
| 11:39.57 | sep | frankf, http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm/files/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/ ttp://www.linux-kvm.com/content/redhat-54-windows-virtio-drivers-part-2-block-drivers?page=1 |
| 11:40.09 | sep | last one is redhatish but i assume you can extrapolate what you need |
| 11:40.36 | sep | frankf, depends on your io. eg lvm would not use linux caches. |
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| 11:41.01 | frankf | now damn me! i thought there was only a virtio driver for the nic. |
| 11:41.04 | sep | lvm would give more direct access to the device... |
| 11:41.15 | frankf | thanks a lot |
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| 11:42.11 | sep | frankf, whad did you use for managing your vm's ? just kmv on the commandline ? |
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| 11:42.46 | frankf | sep: i've tried kvm and libvirt |
| 11:43.11 | Fantom__ | how can i format swap for other distro from debian i made it from cfdisk, but how can i format it ? |
| 11:43.18 | sep | i'v had issues with libvirt. i could not make it easy setting up a vlan+bridge |
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| 11:43.29 | sep | mkswap /device |
| 11:43.35 | Fantom__ | ok thanks |
| 11:44.28 | Fantom__ | brb to check |
| 11:44.43 | frankf | sep: i've had similiar issues, but after fudging around for two hours it worked somehow in a black magic voodoo way |
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| 11:45.32 | sep | frankf, black magic voddo != stable and reliable |
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| 11:46.04 | frankf | sep: i'm only testing right now. |
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| 11:46.44 | frankf | and so far libvirt seems to be not ok. |
| 11:47.13 | sep | what i landed on as well |
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| 11:49.08 | Fantom__ | sep: after mkswap device, is need to start swapon? |
| 11:49.33 | sep | Fantom__, if you want to swap on it immidiatly then yes |
| 11:49.42 | sep | or add to fstab to setup swap on boot |
| 11:49.50 | Fantom__ | aha |
| 11:49.51 | Fantom__ | no |
| 11:51.05 | jtheuer | can I add a ubuntu muliverse repository (karmic) to a debian lenny system? Do I need pinning? |
| 11:51.26 | wols | jtheuer: as soon as you do that, no more support here |
| 11:51.45 | zobel | jtheuer: why do you want to do that? |
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| 11:54.26 | jtheuer | zobel: I was asked to install it because my collegue wants to play with mapnik and the tutorial was for ubuntu. I'd rahter find an appropriate debian repo |
| 11:54.50 | wols | ,versions mapnik |
| 11:54.52 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mapnik' was found. |
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| 11:55.44 | zobel | http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/mapnik-utils ? |
| 11:55.52 | jtheuer | maybe... |
| 11:56.15 | zobel | or even http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/mapnik (for stable) |
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| 11:58.20 | zobel | jtheuer: http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki ? looks much like the mapnik-tools package in debian |
| 11:58.39 | jtheuer | ok, i'll have a look |
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| 12:02.31 | jtheuer | strange. the system should be a fresh lenny install (according to the image-name I got from my hoster) but: g++: Depends: g++-4.3 (>= 4.3.2-1) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 12:03.04 | badger_ | Has anyone ever used kerrighed on debian? |
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| 12:03.15 | jtheuer | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/g++-4.3 exists. that is strange |
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| 12:03.36 | valdyn | jtheuer: so your hoster lied, duh |
| 12:03.42 | valdyn | jtheuer: thats not rare |
| 12:04.00 | valdyn | jtheuer: or maybe they actually said "based on lenny" |
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| 12:05.00 | jtheuer | ok, strange, valdyn I think I found the broken piece: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-18lenny2) but 2.10.2-6 is to be installed |
| 12:05.10 | jtheuer | how to resolve this conflict? |
| 12:05.13 | valdyn | jtheuer: so your sources.list is wrong |
| 12:05.21 | jtheuer | I don't wanne downgrade ;-) |
| 12:05.33 | valdyn | jtheuer: we dont know if you would need to downgrade |
| 12:06.03 | valdyn | jtheuer: look what is installed "apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 12:06.28 | jtheuer | hmm it is from testing |
| 12:06.47 | jtheuer | stange, testing is in my sources, but I also have pinning configured to prefer stable... |
| 12:06.49 | valdyn | judd: versions gcc |
| 12:06.50 | judd | gcc -- etch: 4:4.1.1-15; lenny: 4:4.3.2-2; squeeze: 4:4.4.2-3; sid: 4:4.4.3-1 |
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| 12:07.01 | jtheuer | looks like my fault ;-) |
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| 12:10.22 | Rossonero | is there a way to execute a command line with another user than the current one. ? |
| 12:10.48 | valdyn | Rossonero: man su |
| 12:11.47 | X-Raimo | hello, how do I install MySQL Server 5.1. When I type apt-get install mysql-server, there's version 5.0 installed. But apt-cache search says: mysql-server - MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version) |
| 12:11.50 | X-Raimo | ./ |
| 12:12.13 | vegardx | I guess you're running etch then? |
| 12:12.24 | vegardx | aha, nvm |
| 12:12.31 | vegardx | apt-get upgrade i guess |
| 12:13.01 | X-Raimo | vegardx: no I'm running lenny |
| 12:13.19 | Rossonero | valdyn, I knew that.. but I want to execute the command without the prompt of "su".. like "sudo" for example |
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| 12:13.58 | valdyn | Rossonero: man sudo |
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| 12:15.22 | X-Raimo | vegardx: packages.debian.org says that mysql-server 5.1 in backports. Maybe it is the problem? |
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| 12:16.36 | vegardx | X-Raimo: Ah, that's right. |
| 12:18.02 | X-Raimo | yes. That fixed my problem. Thanx |
| 12:18.49 | vegardx | You could check out dotdeb.org too. |
| 12:19.46 | X-Raimo | also i'm running my web server at another machine (SuSE). And I got following there: http://paste.org.ru/?wqmpeb Can it be because mySQL is version 5.0 and client is 5.1? |
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| 12:23.19 | Ruyan | Why I cannot install using apt-get build-dep thunderbird |
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| 12:24.44 | petemc | Ruyan: because there is no package called thunderbird |
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| 12:25.09 | jelly | Ruyan: what are you trying to do? |
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| 12:25.30 | Ruyan | but I need compile some files which need thunderbird |
| 12:25.58 | jelly | Ruyan: which files? |
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| 12:26.21 | Ruyan | I'm making a extension for thunderbird2, I don't know if there is Gecko(Xulrunner) 1.8.1 |
| 12:26.32 | Ruyan | instantbird i need compile |
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| 12:27.12 | Ruyan | because I need *.so to be compiled for thunderbird2. |
| 12:27.13 | petzon | get thunderbird manualy from mozilla.com? |
| 12:27.52 | jelly | Ruyan: if you want debian packages, I guess you can start by installing xulrunner-dev or use "icedove" for that build-dep line |
| 12:27.56 | Ruyan | But not only thunderbird, also Gecko(Xulrunner) 1.8.1 |
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| 12:28.12 | jelly | judd: versions xulrunner-dev |
| 12:28.13 | judd | xulrunner-dev -- lenny: 1.9.0.16-1; lenny-security: 1.9.0.18-1; lenny-backports: 1.9.1.8-4~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.9.1.8-4; sid: 1.9.1.8-5 |
| 12:28.19 | Fantom__ | i have debian 5.0.4 |
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| 12:28.46 | jelly | judd: versions icedove |
| 12:28.47 | judd | icedove -- etch: 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.15b.dfsg1+prepatch080614i-0etch1; etch-security: 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.15b.dfsg1+prepatch080614i-0etch1; lenny: 2.0.0.22-0lenny1; lenny-security: 2.0.0.22-0lenny1; squeeze: 2.0.0.22-0lenny1; sid: 2.0.0.22-1.1; experimental: 3.0.3-1 |
| 12:28.51 | Ruyan | I have already installed xulrunner-dev, but it's 1.9.1 right? I need xulrunner 1.8.1 |
| 12:29.04 | Fantom__ | and after 10 minuties i was install the fedora (without boot loader) |
| 12:29.09 | Fantom__ | now how can i boot fedora |
| 12:29.15 | Fantom__ | i have grub2 1.98 from debian |
| 12:29.45 | Ruyan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:30.20 | mx | i am not sure what to install, debian lenny 32bits or 64 bits |
| 12:30.42 | jelly | Fantom__: install os-prober, run update-grub, see if it detects the Fedora installation and adds menu entries |
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| 12:31.09 | jelly | Fantom__: or, use grub's command line |
| 12:31.11 | Fantom__ | jelly yes i have os-prober and i run the update-grub but nothing |
| 12:31.46 | jelly | Ruyan: I got nothing, doesn't seem to be available in Debian |
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| 12:33.10 | ryan_ | can interface alias be placed in the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 12:33.17 | jelly | ryan_: yes. |
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| 12:33.29 | bytejumper | http://paste.ubuntu.com/397207/ any ideas ? |
| 12:33.43 | Ruyan | It's fine if i install gecko 1.8.1 into the Debian? |
| 12:34.04 | jelly | ryan_: configure it just like a normal interface, just remember _not_ to put the gateway line there |
| 12:34.14 | Fantom__ | how can i mount /dev/sdf ext4 filesystem/ |
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| 12:34.47 | jelly | !any ideas |
| 12:34.47 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of rutabagas, a little WD-40, and 5 or 6 rabid platypuses. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
| 12:35.13 | farri | I have bought a uvc webcam, luvcview only shows image no sound, is there any application to check video+sound?? |
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| 12:35.52 | jelly | Fantom__: you need a kernel capable of mounting ext4 (that is, 2.6.28 or newer, and lenny has 2.6.26 by default) |
| 12:36.03 | jelly | judd: kernels |
| 12:36.04 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 12:36.16 | Fantom__ | jelly i have 2.6.33 |
| 12:36.48 | jelly | Fantom__: you should be able to mount it if it's built with ext4 support, then |
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| 12:37.11 | Fantom__ | hahah it is no compiled with ext4 |
| 12:37.12 | Fantom__ | bleh |
| 12:37.43 | Fantom__ | jelly: i need to mount the /dev/sdb3 or no after update-grub etc. ? |
| 12:37.50 | Fantom__ | sdb3=fedora |
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| 12:38.28 | Fantom__ | beforce update-grub i mean :") |
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| 12:40.56 | hellyeah | is there a file to give informaation about release |
| 12:41.01 | hellyeah | i am in debian |
| 12:41.14 | zobel | /etc/debian_version |
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| 12:41.48 | pookey | hi all - how can I find a list of specifaclly installed packages? (therefore excluding ones that have been pulled in as dependancies) |
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| 12:43.36 | liable | pookey: dpkg --get-selections |
| 12:43.43 | liable | oh |
| 12:43.51 | liable | excluding auto |
| 12:44.34 | jelly | Fantom__: you don't need to mount anything for os-prober to do its work |
| 12:44.47 | pookey | yeah - I want to basically install all teh isntalled packages on one server, on it's new replacement, but NOT have the new server think I've specically installed thigns there were only as dependencies - else when things are removed, it won't tidy them up |
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| 12:45.32 | Titan8990 | !apt clone |
| 12:45.56 | Titan8990 | !aptitude clone |
| 12:45.56 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
| 12:46.15 | pookey | Titan8990: thanks :) |
| 12:46.22 | Titan8990 | pookey: np |
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| 12:50.42 | Fantom__ | jelly: ok but why not grub added the fedora? |
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| 12:52.36 | jelly | Fantom__: it should have, as far as I know. Perhaps os-prober in lenny doesn't handle ext4 well |
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| 12:53.10 | jelly | Fantom__: perhaps it really wanted to mount the partitions and find kernels, and it couldn't |
| 12:53.39 | saunders | Hi. how do I add simple command at the end of "Makefile" of a source code? |
| 12:54.48 | pookey | saunders: tab, '@rm -rf /mooo' |
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| 12:57.31 | saunders | pookey, it says missing separator? The command being "cp file /to/folder" |
| 12:58.05 | pookey | saunders: you did use a tab? failing that, I dunno, I'm not too great with them , I'ev just seen that used |
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| 12:59.12 | saunders | pookey, now it says: commands commence before first target. Stop. |
| 13:00.05 | \amethyst | saunders: you see how the Makefile is arranged into lines like sometarget: prereqs prereqs followed by tab-indented lines of commands? |
| 13:00.53 | \amethyst | saunders: you need to decide which target should run your command, or create a new one, then put the command there |
| 13:01.02 | Ruyan | If I need to install gecko 1.8.1 in Debian, I need just download sources and compile it? |
| 13:01.26 | \amethyst | saunders: e.g. copymystuff: thefile <newline><tab>cp thefile /somewhere/else |
| 13:01.37 | bbd | Ruyan: or try to find this in backports |
| 13:01.46 | \amethyst | saunders: then you can do make copymystuff to build 'thefile' and then run your cp command |
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| 13:03.49 | \amethyst | saunders: the first rule in the file is the one that is executed when you type plain 'make' |
| 13:03.56 | Ruyan | it's too old, I doubt is will still in backports |
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| 13:06.35 | kexman | how do i siable apache ? apache disable or apache-disable ? :) |
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| 13:08.34 | charzero | kexman: sysv-rc-conf is a nice little tool to disable daemons started from init. |
| 13:09.35 | saunders | \amethyst, thank you, thank you, thank you! |
| 13:10.43 | bbd | Ruyan: ok i see few options here, either try to download xulrunner deb src from etch 1.8.0.15 and try to rebuild it on or simply download 1.8.1 and compile and install it yourself in /usr/local |
| 13:11.18 | jelly | ,versions daemontools |
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| 13:11.20 | judd | daemontools -- etch-backports: 1:0.76-2~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:0.76-3; sid: 1:0.76-3; squeeze: 1:0.76-3 |
| 13:11.23 | iceroot | kexman: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
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| 13:11.35 | iceroot | kexman: without sudo |
| 13:11.59 | Ruyan | bbd: thx |
| 13:12.35 | saunders | \amethyst, one other question. When executing a script /a simple one/ I have "sleep x" between the commands, how can I print a message while "sleep" lasts? |
| 13:13.07 | vegardx | Anyone remember a utility to monitor servers with the word "dog" in it? |
| 13:13.17 | vegardx | It also had an iPhone client. |
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| 13:15.11 | \amethyst | saunders: that much is easy; echo foo; sleep 5 the hard part is making it disappear when the command is finished |
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| 13:17.12 | \amethyst | saunders: maybe: echo -n "Please wait..."; sleep 5; tput delete_line; tput hpa 0; echo "Ok, finished" |
| 13:17.55 | \amethyst | saunders: echo -n tells echo not to print a newline; tput delete_line clears the current line; and tput hpa 0 moves the cursor to the first column |
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| 13:19.16 | saunders | \ thank you for these as well, can I get back to the "make thefile" solution you offered |
| 13:19.39 | saunders | this seems to be temporary though |
| 13:19.58 | saunders | how can I permanently add the new command to the Makefile |
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| 13:20.25 | saunders | a second "make" did not copy the file, Am I missing something? |
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| 13:21.43 | nsadmin | if there is a Makefile.in then you'll have to somehow arrange for the command to get in from that... other than that, future invocations of configure will overwrite it |
| 13:22.38 | saunders | nsadmin, no Makefale.in available |
| 13:22.53 | nsadmin | is there a configure? |
| 13:22.54 | \amethyst | saunders: remember that Make is dependency-based |
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| 13:23.11 | \amethyst | saunders: a rule looks like target: prereq prereq prereq |
| 13:23.22 | saunders | no configure as well, just "make" |
| 13:23.43 | nsadmin | you say there is a file called make? |
| 13:23.46 | \amethyst | saunders: if the target exists and is newer than all the prerequisites, it won't be built |
| 13:23.57 | saunders | no. sorry. its "Makefile" |
| 13:24.08 | nsadmin | ahh, ok |
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| 13:25.08 | nsadmin | so there is nothing that autogenerates the Makefile probably too |
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| 13:25.32 | Psi-Jack | What was the proper way to rename eth0<->eth1 with udev? There's a faqtoid about that right? |
| 13:25.56 | Titan8990 | !70 |
| 13:25.57 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze). If you want the mappings to change, edit this file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 13:25.59 | arcsky | a linux tool for record trace routes does anyone know? cant remember the name of it |
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| 13:26.13 | Titan8990 | arcsky: traceroute? |
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| 13:26.18 | Psi-Jack | Thanks Titan8990 |
| 13:26.28 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: np |
| 13:26.32 | nsadmin | traceroute? |
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| 13:26.39 | saunders | \amethyst, although I understand what you say, I don't know how it practically translates into what I'm trying to achieve. |
| 13:26.54 | jelly | arcsky: also: tracepath, tcptraceroute |
| 13:27.01 | iceroot | arcsky: we dont need crossposting in #debian and #ubuntu |
| 13:27.24 | nsadmin | not sure what you're trying to achieve... your best bet right now is to get familiar with make |
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| 13:27.46 | arcsky | iceroot: ???? |
| 13:27.54 | iceroot | arcsky: ah sorry, wrong nick |
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| 13:28.09 | iceroot | arcsky: bad tab-completion ;) |
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| 13:28.16 | arcsky | oke |
| 13:29.11 | nsadmin | saunders: you're creating a build system for software you wrote? |
| 13:29.51 | waka | anyone here running a Lenovo T60? |
| 13:29.59 | jelly | !anyone |
| 13:29.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 13:30.05 | waka | on squeeze |
| 13:30.08 | liable | waka: t60p |
| 13:30.21 | saunders | nsadmin, in lamens terms, there's a typical source code with "make && make install", ultimately, I'm trying to copy a file, which is present within the src code and I'd like this "addition" to the Makefile to be permanent. |
| 13:30.26 | liable | no squeeze |
| 13:30.33 | waka | i wanted to get myself one |
| 13:30.39 | jelly | liable: well find someone already |
| 13:30.49 | waka | you have lenny? |
| 13:30.52 | liable | hehe |
| 13:31.03 | waka | is wireless sweet? |
| 13:31.10 | nsadmin | saunders try make clean |
| 13:32.50 | waka | liable: are you happy with your t60p? |
| 13:32.51 | nsadmin | wireless wheat? |
| 13:33.00 | liable | waka: yes, wireless should work ok. you just need the firmware for the card |
| 13:33.13 | liable | waka: i love it |
| 13:33.20 | liable | \almost time for an upgrade though |
| 13:33.44 | waka | my toshiba just fell and broke am pretty screwed and dint want to buy anything in haste |
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| 13:34.24 | saunders | nsadmin, the script is lengthy, it will take some time to execute, but does that mean what \amethyst suggested is 'permanent' ? |
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| 13:34.33 | waka | liable: but i only get the 100gb option here |
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| 13:34.49 | nsadmin | the thing is you have to understand the script |
| 13:35.00 | liable | waka: HD? |
| 13:35.08 | nsadmin | just putting a command anywhere isn't going to work |
| 13:35.11 | waka | liable: yeah |
| 13:35.25 | liable | yeah, mines only 80 i think |
| 13:35.39 | waka | liable: but given my old toshiba had just about 20 |
| 13:35.44 | waka | am pretty happy anyway |
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| 13:37.19 | waka | liable: do you run kvm by any chance at all? |
| 13:37.40 | liable | nope |
| 13:38.02 | NoReflex | hello! I want to setup a new server machine for postgres and I wanted to try Debian as the OS. Which version do you recommend? I would like to have an up 2 date version of postgresql...other packages aren't that important. |
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| 13:38.41 | NoReflex | should I go with the stable release and use backports or should I get the testing / unstable release? |
| 13:38.42 | nsadmin | you mean 8.4? |
| 13:38.43 | waka | liable: because sadly i tried connecting to my uni network but couldnt so i need xp to access that |
| 13:38.49 | waka | my uni is really shit |
| 13:39.01 | liable | obviously :P |
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| 13:39.38 | jelly | NoReflex: use stable and backport selected pieces (or if you're lucky, get them from backports.org) |
| 13:39.54 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: you have been in this channel a while... just now trying debian? |
| 13:40.04 | waka | and this is all they say "No support or fact sheets are available for LINUX users." |
| 13:40.25 | abrotman | Titan8990: as the new server ? |
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| 13:40.53 | NoReflex | Titan8990: I've played with debian on my notebook ... where it wasn't that important if it randomly crashed (the unstable version) |
| 13:40.54 | Titan8990 | abrotman: my logs show multiple occasions of him asking for ubunt help in here |
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| 13:42.22 | waka | liable : thanks |
| 13:42.58 | liable | no worries |
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| 13:43.17 | NoReflex | Titan8990: I'm not sure about "multiple occasions" ... I did ask about a problem with upstart in Ubuntu but did not get help |
| 13:43.53 | liable | waka: best thing, keyboard rocks, of course trackpoint, and the p model has the most awesome sreen |
| 13:44.01 | liable | screen* |
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| 13:44.41 | waka | yeah i shyd off of dell's coz the screen on an inspiron i was eyeing was just too glaring |
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| 13:45.07 | liable | hmm, its the res i like, 1600x1200 |
| 13:45.38 | liable | bastards dont make them anymore, which is whats stopping me buying a new TP |
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| 13:49.09 | waka | yeah |
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| 13:51.16 | Nilks | Hallo. I am trying to apt-get source php5, but it gives me the "lenny4"-version, and i need the "lenny6". What to do? |
| 13:51.56 | jelly | Nilks: do you have a deb-src line for security.debian.org? |
| 13:52.05 | nsadmin | probably the lenny6 is a matter of a different .diff and different .dsc |
| 13:52.29 | Nilks | The only deb-src i have, is for http.us.debian.org |
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| 13:52.39 | waka | liable: i really liked my old toshiba |
| 13:52.52 | waka | it was old but reliable |
| 13:53.13 | jelly | Nilks: copy the security.d.o line, replacing deb with deb-src. |
| 13:53.20 | liable | waka: yo'll prolly like a thinkpad then |
| 13:53.34 | Nilks | Thanks Jelly - I'll give it a try |
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| 13:53.52 | jelly | Nilks: the latest source should be available after an update |
| 13:53.53 | liable | waka: i spilled a half a cup of coffe on mine the other week |
| 13:54.05 | liable | they have drains that protect the mobo |
| 13:54.07 | waka | and it is still is in form? |
| 13:54.10 | waka | nice |
| 13:54.16 | liable | i ripped the keyboard out |
| 13:54.23 | plus_M | This is driving me nuts. I'm trying to run gaussview, which renders windows with opengl, over remote X (ssh -X), but the windows won't render at all. See this: http://i.imgur.com/cPRTz.jpg |
| 13:54.27 | liable | washed it and sprayed contact cleaner on it |
| 13:54.36 | liable | still working for now :) |
| 13:54.37 | waka | my escape key had chucked though |
| 13:54.41 | Nilks | Thank you very much, jelly - It works :) |
| 13:54.47 | waka | i bought the thing for about 100 bucks though |
| 13:56.07 | waka | The person that was using it had windows but he could not work with it since windows fills up the whole small thing and he can only use the little space left |
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| 13:57.35 | waka | liable: later |
| 13:58.51 | liable | bye bye |
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| 14:10.56 | bscape | queenz: today |
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| 14:19.58 | keex | hello |
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| 14:21.47 | keex | after last night's upgrade, GRUB isn't loading anymore. I get the busybox rescue shell, because my HDD using the UUID cannot be accessed/mounted |
| 14:22.00 | keex | i use "testing" |
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| 14:22.43 | keex | anyone also experiencing similar problems? |
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| 14:25.55 | SPF | keex: probably you installed a new kernel version and menu.lst got updated |
| 14:26.04 | abrotman | or grub.cfg |
| 14:26.04 | keex | yes |
| 14:26.13 | keex | grub.cfg |
| 14:26.19 | keex | ...must've been what happened |
| 14:26.22 | SPF | grub.cfg is for grub2? |
| 14:26.28 | keex | yes |
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| 14:27.14 | SPF | grub2 should also have something like kopt to prevent your problem |
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| 14:27.36 | keex | I am updating / upgrading now again |
| 14:27.58 | keex | the systemrescueCD is REALLY handy! |
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| 14:30.48 | subsu | Has anyone got a ATI firepro v3700 to work in xorg with lenny besides with the vesa driver? |
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| 14:32.25 | lo127 | is sendmail a mailserver? |
| 14:33.02 | petemc | is google a search engine? |
| 14:33.12 | lo127 | lol, knew that was comming |
| 14:33.40 | lo127 | well, still better to be on the safe side, and I take that as a yes petemc :) |
| 14:33.42 | petemc | :) , yes sendmail is a mailserver, an older one, with better alternatives around |
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| 14:35.43 | crazygir | hiya hiya.. is it possible to install to CF using the std net install iso? |
| 14:36.31 | crazygir | when inserting my CF card, I get all sorts of fun kernel errors and it isn't picked up as an available disk |
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| 14:37.58 | abrotman | crazygir: it's just a normal disk isn't it ? |
| 14:38.15 | crazygir | so I guess the question is: does the net install iso have support for these types of hardware built in, or does it sound like my CF card specifically is the issue? |
| 14:38.36 | crazygir | abrotman: it's a normal kingston CF disk yes, but CF is not really "normal" I guess |
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| 14:40.28 | cybor0 | hello |
| 14:40.34 | cybor0 | some help screen locker not work |
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| 14:44.17 | abrotman | crazygir: it's presented to the system as a drive |
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| 14:45.15 | crazygir | abrotman: how do you mean? |
| 14:45.21 | crazygir | not sure I'm following you |
| 14:45.36 | crazygir | does the stock net install kernel have support for cf readers? |
| 14:45.46 | abrotman | it does for mine |
| 14:45.57 | crazygir | mmm |
| 14:46.09 | crazygir | I could test with another livecd then |
| 14:46.18 | crazygir | I guess the way around this is to make a dd image |
| 14:46.23 | Bushmills | CF disks interface like ATA disks |
| 14:46.42 | crazygir | let me check the errors again, that might be more fruitful |
| 14:46.49 | Bushmills | (not just software, also interface) |
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| 14:49.34 | crazygir | does sshd run on the net install cd? |
| 14:49.50 | crazygir | or rather, is there a way to run sshd |
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| 14:54.56 | wols | crazygir: no. it's not on the CD |
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| 15:00.11 | mns | Anyone have any good ideas on how to monitor disk usage ? Maybe down the line I will want to monitor things like web and mail usage. |
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| 15:01.02 | abrotman | pokes antgel |
| 15:03.59 | petemc | mns: nagios or zabbix are both popular for many types of monitoring |
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| 15:04.30 | mns | petemc: this is for a single system setup |
| 15:04.46 | petemc | and? |
| 15:04.47 | mns | don't need anything complicated |
| 15:05.13 | petemc | mns: then use du or df |
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| 15:07.50 | crazygir | thanks wols |
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| 15:07.56 | crazygir | for confirming |
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| 15:12.10 | wols | crazygir: /msg dpkg ssh install |
| 15:13.07 | jhutchins_lt | mns: I think there are some gui tools that will notify you if you reach a certain limit. |
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| 15:16.14 | Bushmills | mns: munin is not too awful. much less involved than zabbix. can monitor and graph about anything which can be expressed in numbers |
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| 15:18.34 | d1b | Bushmills: nagios! |
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| 15:18.43 | fireba11 | i got both nagios and munin here |
| 15:18.56 | d1b | nagios ftw! (+ cacti maybe) |
| 15:19.00 | jhutchins_lt | nagios isn't really appropriate for a single system. |
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| 15:19.07 | d1b | jhutchins_lt: sure it is |
| 15:19.22 | d1b | if that system is critical. |
| 15:19.25 | d1b | why not. |
| 15:19.31 | Bushmills | for watching limits, nagios is ok. for monitoring history and graphing, munin is better |
| 15:19.39 | Bushmills | but they complement each other |
| 15:19.42 | fireba11 | d1b: you need at least a second system to put nagios on or it's pointless |
| 15:19.46 | crazygir | wols: I was considering ways to help make the error messages more accessible to me |
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| 15:20.44 | d1b | Bushmills: there is the new nagios fork |
| 15:21.05 | Bushmills | i turned monit |
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| 15:22.08 | d1b | Bushmills: does it support nagios plugins ? |
| 15:22.17 | d1b | like return type + output |
| 15:22.30 | Bushmills | why should it? |
| 15:22.47 | d1b | Bushmills: because.. otherwise it is useless... to a lot of people... |
| 15:22.52 | Bushmills | it's just a script like description of what is monitored and how |
| 15:23.15 | Bushmills | by that logic, nagios is useless, because it doesn't take munin plugins |
| 15:23.39 | d1b | Bushmills: nagios plugins are awesome because you also need to write something that returns on error / ok / warning with a message |
| 15:24.21 | Bushmills | ok. it works for you. |
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| 15:24.56 | Bushmills | what is not nagios is evidently useless. i have nothing to add |
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| 15:25.27 | d1b | monit isn't either, but if i want to actually monitor stuff i need more than just a script. |
| 15:25.44 | d1b | nagios needs something like cucumber to really get it all done tho |
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| 15:26.05 | d1b | http://github.com/auxesis/cucumber-nagios/ |
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| 15:27.07 | mns | Bushmills: munin and monit ? |
| 15:28.00 | Bushmills | mns: that's what i currently use, right |
| 15:28.31 | Bushmills | i was tempted by opennms, but found it overkill for my purposes |
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| 15:30.49 | bosyak | .йгÑе |
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| 15:31.30 | mns | openNMS is nice, but it would be overkill for my single system setup. as would nagios and probably cacti too. I just want something that will monitor diskusage, maybe cpu usage, and later on, web and mail usage. its a low end system that I use for myself at home. send me emails, put it up on a webpage. that's all. |
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| 15:31.57 | TomyLobo | gpointing-device-settings segfaults since i checked "disable tapping" |
| 15:32.04 | TomyLobo | where can i find the config file or whatever to reset that setting? |
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| 15:32.24 | Bushmills | want a short run through a number of live graphs? |
| 15:32.36 | mns | Bushmills, sure |
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| 15:33.08 | Bushmills | PM? |
| 15:33.20 | linuxuser-8944 | this |
| 15:33.30 | mns | yeah sure |
| 15:34.39 | jhutchins_lt | Interesting, there are a number of examples of shell scripts to alert you if your disk space is critical, but no standard applet. |
| 15:34.48 | linuxuser-8944 | if a gfx card caused a computer to crash, could this create problems in the filesystem? that would be an ext2 partition that has linux installed on it. after the crash fsck fails every time |
| 15:35.12 | NoReflex | jelly: I installed the stable version but now I realized I need ext4 support because I have a few HDD's in a Linux software RAID setup that's using ext4. Should I go upgrade on lenny's a$$ or just reinstall from scratch? |
| 15:35.21 | d1b | iirc ext2 fscks ... a lot |
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| 15:35.30 | linuxuser-8944 | just trying to make sure it's the card and not a problem with the disk |
| 15:35.35 | linuxuser-8944 | d1b: what? |
| 15:36.00 | d1b | linuxuser-8944: why are you still using ext2? |
| 15:36.12 | linuxuser-8944 | should i use 3? |
| 15:36.24 | jelly | NoReflex: newer kernel from backports.org ought to be enough |
| 15:36.26 | jhutchins_lt | linuxuser-8944: ext3 should be more robust, but yes, whatever the cause a crash can corrupt a filesystem. |
| 15:36.43 | linuxuser-8944 | because 3 takes up more space and uses more resources |
| 15:36.51 | jhutchins_lt | linuxuser-8944: The filesystem corruption wouldn't actually have anything to do with the card, just the crash. |
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| 15:37.09 | linuxuser-8944 | yeah. so any crash can cause a corruption of data |
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| 15:37.31 | adam` | hello, who know how to install wifi drivers from 1000h eee? |
| 15:37.36 | jhutchins_lt | linuxuser-8944: Unless you have a very marginal system I doubt you'll notice the difference between 2 & 3. |
| 15:37.36 | jelly | linuxuser-8944: it takes 128MB more space. Is this an embedded system? |
| 15:37.36 | anao | hellp @all do anyone knows freeze of sqeeze? |
| 15:37.47 | linuxuser-8944 | jelly: nope |
| 15:38.15 | Titan8990 | anao: squeeze will freeze when the number of release critical bugs are down to an acceptable level |
| 15:38.46 | d1b | Titan8990: ah so prevent this we should file more rc bugs ^^ |
| 15:38.53 | anao | @Titan8990 thanks, cause i want to use compact view of nautils |
| 15:39.20 | anao | or can i config on lenny compact view of nautilus ? |
| 15:39.57 | Titan8990 | anao: you can disable |
| 15:40.20 | Titan8990 | anao: sorry, didn't mean to hit enter... you can disable "always open in new window" but it is not the new layout your looking for |
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| 15:41.04 | anao | @Titan8990 yes i have searched on internet for addon scripts for new compact view |
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| 15:41.34 | Titan8990 | anao: mc is better anyways :p |
| 15:41.35 | anao | did anyone config a desktop with -active-desktop-webpage-wallpaper-? |
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| 15:42.03 | anao | yes mc is much better |
| 15:42.34 | anao | i setup always smallest setups gnome-core with some apps |
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| 15:43.20 | anao | i used ubuntu some days but i'm back to debian lenny |
| 15:43.50 | anao | ubuntu is to far away from debian-sources |
| 15:44.11 | anao | ubuntu has too many unsolved bugs |
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| 15:45.28 | anao | ok guys i close here spring arrived sun for barbeques bye..to all |
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| 15:53.58 | kavakava | Ehm. Strange problem. There is a file in my folder that makes both find and ls stop working. I can quit find, but ls just stops and I have to kill it with kill -9. Any clue what could be wrong? |
| 15:54.06 | subsu | when updating my time with ntpdate I get -6hrs, the timezone in /etc/timezone is correct, pkg-reconfigure tzdata sets the correct time. How can this be? |
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| 15:55.13 | jhutchins_lt | subsu: What timezone should it be? |
| 15:55.23 | stockholm | kavakava: i had that problem on xfs once. |
| 15:55.28 | subsu | Europe/Stockholm |
| 15:55.30 | stockholm | it was a corruption |
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| 15:55.55 | jhutchins_lt | kavakava: Probably time to run fsck on that volume. |
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| 15:56.27 | jhutchins_lt | subsu: What server are you referencing? |
| 15:56.47 | kavakava | stockholm / jhutchins_lt: I thought of using locate. Seems it is sshfs. |
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| 15:57.30 | kavakava | Yup. Killed it, and it works. |
| 15:57.38 | jhutchins_lt | Logs on the server might be of interest. |
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| 15:58.51 | subsu | jhutchins_lt: It actually works now. |
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| 15:59.03 | subsu | jhutchins_lt: That was the weirdest thing ever |
| 15:59.36 | jhutchins_lt | subsu: Changing/setting the timezone is one of the few things that you actually need to reboot for. |
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| 16:00.57 | subsu | jhutchins_lt: better do it now then. My time was flipping back and forth according to `date` |
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| 16:01.43 | kavakava | jhutchins_lt: I can't find the logs. Do you know where to look? |
| 16:01.54 | kavakava | Or even what to look for. Tried both fuse and sshfs, but nada. |
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| 16:14.02 | jhutchins_lt | kavakava: Debian's logs are confusing. try daemons or syslog. |
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| 16:15.59 | kavakava | jhutchins_lt: Nope, neither. |
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| 16:16.19 | mazzanet | so i have some filesystem corruption |
| 16:16.39 | mazzanet | eg. |
| 16:16.39 | mazzanet | ls: cannot access ./etc/apt/trusted.gpg: Permission denied |
| 16:16.40 | mazzanet | ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? trusted.gpg |
| 16:17.00 | mazzanet | from a broken raid rebuild |
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| 16:17.09 | mazzanet | there's maybe only 20 files affected |
| 16:17.15 | mazzanet | i don't care if i lose the data |
| 16:17.16 | necrocow | does anyone know what porcess routinely checks the perms of /var/spool/mail/root and makes sure they are 600 ? |
| 16:17.19 | mazzanet | i just want to nuke them |
| 16:17.24 | mazzanet | without rebooting. |
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| 16:17.55 | boxxertrumps | mazzanet: rm as root? |
| 16:18.09 | mazzanet | i get permission denied |
| 16:18.13 | jhutchins_lt | mazzanet: mc might work, but you should probably fsck the volume. |
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| 16:19.26 | mazzanet | mc didn't do it |
| 16:19.49 | mazzanet | fsck is going to be the last resort as the box is physically not accessible |
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| 16:24.11 | NoReflex | jelly: I enabled backports and installed postgresql 8.4.2-1. aptitude show linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64 tells me " This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor. It supports only unprivileged (domU) operation." Isn't this the "default" kernel? Do I need something else? |
| 16:24.38 | h725 | how can I start (let's say xterm) on a remote machine via ssh? (i.e., i want the window on the remote machine too) |
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| 16:26.06 | kavakava | h725: I'm not sure if I understood you, but DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm perhaps? |
| 16:26.09 | anarcat | the lenny debian installer can't get an IP from the network *but* I started it through netbooting, how's that possible? |
| 16:26.19 | anarcat | dmesg says rtl8189 link down |
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| 16:26.55 | h725 | kavakava: yes that's how I 'usually' do it, but now I get No protocol specified Can't open display: :0.0 |
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| 16:27.08 | h725 | the remote host is debian squeeze |
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| 16:27.32 | kavakava | h725: Have you looked in the sshd_config? |
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| 16:27.53 | h725 | kavakava: what setting do you refer to? |
| 16:28.27 | kavakava | h725: Protocol. |
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| 16:28.54 | gyles19 | h725, I ssh into a remote build machine to work, and I also run a local xload window for that machine with "ssh -X me@remote.machine xload" and the xload window opens on my own desktop. Is that what you mean? |
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| 16:29.18 | h725 | gyles19: no I want the window on the remote machine ;-) |
| 16:29.41 | h725 | kavakava: there are not applicable protocol settings in sshd_config (I think) |
| 16:30.00 | kavakava | h725: Have you tried another app like xeyes? |
| 16:30.14 | h725 | # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for # Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to and 2 more |
| 16:30.17 | bbd | h725: is remote machine running some kind of X server? |
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| 16:30.19 | gyles19 | Hrm. Well, your remote ssh session would need xauth rights to the remote console session. I'd experiment with xload ..-display ip.of.that.host:0 |
| 16:30.21 | h725 | yes tried a bunch, nothing working |
| 16:30.31 | h725 | yes I work on the 'remote' machine :-) |
| 16:30.52 | gyles19 | Does that remote machine have a graphic display you can see? |
| 16:31.01 | h725 | yes I sit in front of it |
| 16:31.04 | NoReflex | can anyone tell me if this is the correct kernel to install from lenny backports? linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.3-amd64 ? The Description puzzles me...Xen hypervisor?.... |
| 16:31.09 | Patwotrik | I have a little problem. I want to be able to install both the dev and stable version of wine, in different locations, having the stable as default. |
| 16:31.09 | h725 | so remote now is really only 2ft |
| 16:31.19 | Patwotrik | how do i do that from deb packages? |
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| 16:31.48 | Patwotrik | (or from ubuntu packeges to be more precise) |
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| 16:32.48 | NoReflex | Patwotrik: I think you could install the stable version from the repo and that version will be set up as default. |
| 16:33.08 | Patwotrik | NoReflex: yes, and then? |
| 16:33.09 | gyles19 | NoReflex: Xen is a virtualization package like VMWare, KVM, etc. It requires specially-compiled kernels for the machines running it. |
| 16:33.10 | NoReflex | then you can install the latest version from sources and use that whenever you need |
| 16:33.21 | Patwotrik | NoReflex: ok, thanks |
| 16:33.29 | Psi-Jack | grins. |
| 16:33.47 | Psi-Jack | Heh, I've been putting together all my systems I plan to run Xen up on. heh |
| 16:33.57 | NoReflex | gyles19: I don't want / need Xen ... is there another kernel image I should use for a normal machine? |
| 16:34.26 | gyles19 | I just tend to use the most recent kernel for my particular platform, whatever stable is offering. |
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| 16:35.29 | NoReflex | gyles19: I would be happy with lenny's default kernel but the problem is it does not support ext4 ... and since I'll be moving a linux software raid array which uses ext4 I'm going to need that |
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| 16:35.56 | Psi-Jack | Nobody /needs/ ext4. XFS is better anyway. :p |
| 16:36.16 | bbd | h725: you want to be able to ssh from somewhere to this machine, and run "xclock" (or whatever) which appears on the console of that machine? |
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| 16:36.49 | h725 | bbd: exactly |
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| 16:37.08 | h725 | and I did that before without doing anything special (on other machines though) |
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| 16:37.54 | bbd | h725: so if you're at the console now, take what you have as "echo $DISPLAY" and put this value as DISPLAY when you ssh (without -X) in from somewhere. You might also want to play with xauth command. |
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| 16:39.12 | h725 | bbd: echo $DISPLAY results in :0.0 as expected, and of course that was my first shot/try (i.e., does not work) |
| 16:39.16 | gyles19 | Actually, I think what he needs to do is tell the remote app to override the default display. IE, ssh -X me@remote.host xterm to get a window. |
| 16:39.25 | h725 | No protocol specified, sterm Xt erroro: Can't open display: :0.0 |
| 16:39.28 | gyles19 | Then in that window do "xload -display :0" and it pops up. |
| 16:40.06 | h725 | gyles19: I don't want X forwarding over ssh, I don't wanna see the window |
| 16:40.12 | frikinz | the -X is not needed if you want to display it remotely. |
| 16:40.21 | h725 | my words |
| 16:40.29 | jelly | NoReflex: that's it |
| 16:40.29 | frikinz | yeah, I'm slower :) |
| 16:40.32 | h725 | bbd: play with xauth? |
| 16:40.33 | gyles19 | Sigh. Read what I said. I opened the xterm so *I* can test it. |
| 16:40.42 | bbd | h725: definitely |
| 16:40.52 | h725 | bbd: could you elaborate on play? |
| 16:40.57 | frikinz | xauth -merge ~user_who_opened_the_session/.Xauthority |
| 16:41.08 | gyles19 | Run the command you want and add "-display :0" to that command. |
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| 16:41.30 | laxula_21 | Quieres ganar hasta 45 euros al dia solo por navegar? Entra aqui y descubre como!!! http://muchoseuros.wordpress.com/ Inversion 0!! |
| 16:41.38 | frikinz | anyway, if it's an xauth problem, you should get the message "connection refused" |
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| 16:41.58 | h725 | no don't get connection refused |
| 16:42.15 | h725 | As I said, no protocol specified can't open display: :0.0 |
| 16:42.41 | NoReflex | Is it safe to lock the root account? (sudo passwd -l root)? I don't actually use it since I prefer sudo. I only have one account on the new machine. no one else is going to access that machine |
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| 16:43.10 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: its recommended that you do not give a regular user full sudo access |
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| 16:44.08 | NoReflex | Titan8990: why? I'm the only user and the machine will only run postgres which won't be accessible outside my LAN |
| 16:44.21 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: sudo is good for specifying a couple commands that a user can use without the root password, otherwise its almost is if your running as root (not quite as bad but it is if you account is compromised) |
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| 16:44.54 | frikinz | NoReflex, I would not advise to do this. I had the problem that I could not mount /home one day. Then it became more complicated to get to root.. |
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| 16:45.09 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: but think about it... the user you use for browsing the web is a user that has full access to root |
| 16:45.38 | gyles19 | NoReflex, you're triggering one of those unix religious wars. One side believes in disabling root and using sudo for everything, including he-who-would-be-root, and the other who believes in using a normal root account. Ubuntu uses the former and it works pretty well. |
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| 16:46.28 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: I won a CTF competition at a hacker con not long ago. We cracked a user's windows password... which happened to be his linux password... which happened to have full access to root |
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| 16:47.02 | nkuttler | haha. password login.. |
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| 16:47.07 | gyles19 | NoReflex, if your debian/ubuntu/whatever installer offers the choice of disabling root and using a general user, you can safely choose that and the machine will work just fine. You simply have to 'sudo' when you want to run a command with root privs. |
| 16:47.18 | NoReflex | Titan8990: this machine will only run postgresql, will not have X and I will only connect to it when I want to check the load, health or to change / tune postgresql options. I wanted to keep it simple since it won't be accessible from the outside |
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| 16:47.34 | Titan8990 | gyles19: the debian installer does not offer that option AFAIK |
| 16:47.36 | orger | for some reason, my fonts are enormous. Dejavu monospace 12 point looks more like 30 point... |
| 16:47.41 | h725 | bbd: the xauth merge did not help either |
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| 16:48.05 | frikinz | h725, which app did you try to start? xload? |
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| 16:48.09 | gyles19 | Titan8990, it does if you're using the preseed setup, and I'm pretty sure Lenny will give you the option if you ask. |
| 16:48.15 | h725 | xterm |
| 16:48.18 | h725 | gedit |
| 16:48.20 | Titan8990 | NoReflex: 1) don't permit root login via SSH 2) don't use sudo, use 'su' |
| 16:48.26 | NoReflex | Titan8990: I installed sid not long ago on a notebook and if I let the root password blank it "presented" me with the option to use sudo with my regular account |
| 16:48.26 | h725 | gnome-terminal |
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| 16:49.06 | Titan8990 | gyles19: preseed maybe, but I don't even recall seeing that in the expert install. If it was there, it wouldn't make much sense because sudo is not installed by default and would require installation of the desktop task |
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| 16:50.07 | gyles19 | titan8990 I'm installing debian lenny in virtual machines and I'm using the standard installer to create a root-disabled, sudo-capable guest machine. I know it works. |
| 16:50.16 | NoReflex | for now I'll leave them both enabled and probably limit the sudo capability of my account to a set of needed commands |
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| 16:50.28 | Titan8990 | gyles19: using preeseeds to install sudo? |
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| 16:51.23 | gyles19 | Titan8990: Sudo is there without me specifying it separately. I haven't dug into where the installer decided to use it, it just works. |
| 16:51.44 | smacnay | Has anyone tried Cherokee as a web server? Is it fairly stable and robust? |
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| 16:51.59 | frikinz | h725, export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 ? |
| 16:52.06 | Titan8990 | gyles19: I don't even think sudo is part of the "standard system" task.... |
| 16:52.20 | frikinz | h725, if adress can not be reached, it won't display connection refused probably |
| 16:52.24 | h725 | frikinz: I f*** up something in my xserver |
| 16:52.29 | gyles19 | Titan8990: It is. My guests are headless and are not installing anything except 'standard'. |
| 16:52.31 | h725 | I cannot start local programs anymore |
| 16:52.46 | h725 | so my best bet is to restart X :-) |
| 16:52.48 | bbd | xauth merge :) |
| 16:52.52 | frikinz | ah that explains. maybe only the .Xauthority |
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| 17:16.33 | wols | g0rd0n_: it is the same for any linux. doesn't mean we should support any linux here. if you want to do that: ##linux |
| 17:16.46 | wols | g0rd0n_: sorry. gyles19 left. ETAB |
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| 17:17.34 | Psi-Jack | Heh |
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| 17:24.56 | BerMeJo | hi all |
| 17:25.18 | BerMeJo | how can i know if dual channel of my machine is running? |
| 17:25.43 | Titan8990 | BerMeJo: you mean if your RAM is operating in dual channel mode? |
| 17:25.48 | BerMeJo | yes Titan8990 |
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| 17:26.21 | Psi-Jack | Interesting. I have a domU running a looped ls -laR /, and it's using 18% CPU, while the dom0 is only using like 4% |
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| 17:27.26 | Titan8990 | BerMeJo: your BIOS should be able to tell you, or maybe dmidecode |
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| 17:28.29 | Kottizen | hi guys |
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| 17:28.39 | Kottizen | I need a firewall for my servers. Which is the best one? |
| 17:28.41 | Kottizen | Easiest |
| 17:28.41 | Kottizen | etc |
| 17:28.52 | Psi-Jack | Kottizen: They all use iptables. :p |
| 17:29.03 | Kottizen | ? |
| 17:29.03 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: no, they all use netfilter |
| 17:29.10 | Psi-Jack | True. |
| 17:29.12 | Kottizen | ??? |
| 17:29.13 | Titan8990 | iptables is just a front-end for netfilter |
| 17:29.26 | wols | Titan8990: any other frontend to manipulate netfilter rules than iptables? |
| 17:29.26 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: there is also shorewall, ipchains, and other front-ends |
| 17:29.33 | Psi-Jack | Kottizen: The proper question might be, what front-end would be easiest to use. |
| 17:29.34 | Titan8990 | wols: shorewall :) |
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| 17:29.50 | wols | how does shorewall do it? directly calling ioctls or such? |
| 17:29.52 | Psi-Jack | Titan8990: shorewall doesn't use iptables? |
| 17:30.03 | Kottizen | Btw., what can happend if I don't use a firewall? |
| 17:30.04 | Psi-Jack | I believe it does. ;0 |
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| 17:30.58 | wols | Kottizen: nothing. especially if you have to ask a question like that |
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| 17:31.09 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: your right... "Shorewall is to iptables, what C is to assembly language." |
| 17:31.15 | Psi-Jack | Titan8990: Yep. |
| 17:31.20 | wols | Kottizen: don't open ports you don't want to be opened and you are fine. |
| 17:31.27 | Psi-Jack | it's just a front-end sorta to make rule setup more structured and organized. |
| 17:31.30 | Kottizen | But, how do I open/close ports? |
| 17:31.37 | wols | Kottizen: clone? |
| 17:31.40 | Psi-Jack | A very GOOD one, but still. ;) |
| 17:31.41 | Kottizen | It is the listenblock in all serverapplications? |
| 17:31.44 | Kottizen | wols: Clone? |
| 17:31.49 | wols | you open ports by installing servers. don't install them, no open ports |
| 17:31.59 | wols | ah, close. sorry |
| 17:31.59 | Psi-Jack | Kottizen: You open a port by running software that opens it. You close a port by shutting said program down. |
| 17:32.05 | Kottizen | ok thanks |
| 17:32.18 | wols | listenblock is what? what server has this feature? |
| 17:32.24 | Kottizen | Unreal ircd |
| 17:32.25 | Psi-Jack | If you mean to control what can ACCESS those ports, that's where a firewall comes in to play. |
| 17:32.38 | Titan8990 | wols: FTP? |
| 17:32.38 | Kottizen | Psi-Jack: ah okey, thank you then :D |
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| 17:33.09 | wols | Titan8990: usually they servers do it with "listen on interface X or ip Y" |
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| 17:34.25 | wols | Kottizen: a firewall cannot run on the host with the servers you want to protect btw |
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| 17:35.14 | Psi-Jack | Well, it can, just not as effectively. ;) |
| 17:35.49 | wols | sure. it's a nice way to waste ram and cycles :) |
| 17:36.40 | Psi-Jack | Yeah, but it'll still effectively control traffic. It'll use more on the system than it normally should, though obviously. |
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| 17:37.37 | wols | it cannot control traffic. not in a meaningful way |
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| 17:37.57 | neurodamage | has anyone gotten successful function of juniper vpn client in debian? |
| 17:38.03 | neurodamage | I was curios I didn't see any documentation for that |
| 17:38.22 | wols | cause the server needs to have ports open for serving. and the ones not needed for that are closed anyways. and if you have a bug in the kernel involving closed ports |
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| 17:38.59 | eshat | Hi all... Using KDE 4.4 Dolphin cannot mount internal devices. With and without a fstab-entry, I get the message, that mounting is refused for uid=1000 |
| 17:39.21 | Titan8990 | !unstable |
| 17:39.22 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 17:40.02 | Titan8990 | eshat: and your using sid or squeeze? |
| 17:40.08 | eshat | Titan8990: sid |
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| 17:40.22 | Psi-Jack | wols: That would differ a bit, though should you be running, for example, Xen, with the firewall on the dom0 interfacing with the domU's would it not? heh |
| 17:40.31 | Titan8990 | eshat: so you already tried adding the "users" option to fstab, and checked the BTS? |
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| 17:41.21 | eshat | Titan8990: I did and also found a bug on the ubuntu page,... so maybe the bug is upstream |
| 17:41.29 | eshat | It worked bevore in 4.3.4 |
| 17:41.42 | eshat | *before |
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| 17:43.24 | Psi-Jack | wols: Hmmmm? heh |
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| 17:45.14 | ikthus | Hi all :) I want to install debian on a server from internet, is it possible ? |
| 17:45.37 | tyr | hi, i have debian squeeze amd64. does somebody know how i can get "symbols" working? you can see them on the bottom left here: http://www.anjuta.org/screenshots/anjuta-2.1.2-1.png |
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| 17:45.40 | ikthus | i just have a liveCD running on this server |
| 17:45.51 | eshat | ikthus: yes with debootstrap |
| 17:45.52 | Psi-Jack | ikthus: Debian has a netinst. |
| 17:46.21 | eshat | ikthus: but if u could get a live CD to work, why not use the debian installation disc ? |
| 17:46.30 | AimHere | If you've a CD drive for your liveCD, you've got a way of getting the debian netinstall working |
| 17:46.37 | Psi-Jack | heh |
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| 17:47.52 | ikthus | xD, i don't have a CD recorder :s |
| 17:48.11 | eshat | ikthus: what live CD do u have running ? |
| 17:48.50 | ikthus | i'm on ubuntu netbook remix on this things : http://servers.alege.net/IBM-eserver-xSeries-205-8480-84805AX.html |
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| 17:49.27 | wols | tyr: you compile with your stuff with debugging enabled |
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| 17:49.43 | eshat | ikthus: if u are a little bit experinced then use debootstrap,.. it should be in the ubuntu sources and there are good howtwos out there |
| 17:49.47 | wols | ikthus: you already got your answet. debootstrap. /msg dpkg ig |
| 17:49.49 | eshat | !debootstrap |
| 17:49.49 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
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| 17:50.15 | ikthus | Okay cool :) |
| 17:51.29 | tyr | compiling... ok, thought there is an easy way (e.g. preferences). thanks |
| 17:52.24 | wols | anjutah is a IDE. it's for writing and compiling programs, duh |
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| 17:54.11 | eshat | Can kdevelop and qtdesigner be recommended ? |
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| 17:56.29 | eshat | hmm,... I maybe just have to try them |
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| 18:28.57 | PyroPhelia | when using tar is it possible to pass an argument that will use pbzip2 instead of the default bzip2? Or do I have to compile tar with the pbzip2 option? |
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| 18:30.45 | Titan8990 | PyroPhelia: --use-compress-prog=pbzip2 give that a try |
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| 18:31.27 | PyroPhelia | is that in the man for tar? I didn't see any --ise-compress options |
| 18:31.27 | valdyn | PyroPhelia: tar -j |
| 18:31.43 | PyroPhelia | valdyn, it defaults to bzip2 not pbzip2 |
| 18:31.50 | valdyn | yea |
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| 18:32.33 | PyroPhelia | I'm compressing files that are taking 3-4 days to compress while using bzip2, I need to go parrelle :P |
| 18:32.41 | Joint | hey i got a question I'm getting an error saying Disk has many bad sectors how can i fix this? |
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| 18:32.55 | PyroPhelia | s/parrelle/parallel |
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| 18:33.06 | wols | !smartmon-tools |
| 18:33.14 | arvind_k | !soc |
| 18:33.15 | dpkg | rumour has it, soc is Google Summer of Code is a summer mentoring program created by Google, see http://code.google.com/soc and http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009 or try #debian-soc on irc.debian.org |
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| 18:33.25 | valdyn | Joint: this cannot be fixed unless the error message is wrong |
| 18:33.36 | wols | Joint: use smartmontools |
| 18:33.36 | Joint | i don't think the message is wrong, |
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| 18:33.47 | valdyn | Joint: so get a new disk |
| 18:33.57 | Joint | is a laptop |
| 18:34.06 | valdyn | Joint: so? |
| 18:34.11 | PyroPhelia | Joint, if you ahve a second system I'd test the disk in that system with smartctl -T long /dev/<disk> |
| 18:34.13 | Titan8990 | PyroPhelia: yes, its in the tar man |
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| 18:34.32 | Jester01 | hi people ... I just noticed /usr/share/mime/mime.cache. I was wondering why it lives in /usr if it is a cache that is regenerated from time to time |
| 18:35.01 | simonrvn | Jester01: file a bug, though there is probably a bug report already |
| 18:35.15 | Joint | damn |
| 18:35.16 | Joint | ok |
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| 18:35.19 | PyroPhelia | Joint, I ran into a problem with a bad controller that would report bad sectors on my disks, but after a bit of research it was the controller. actually it was the power going to the controller. but same difference. a lot of things can cause a false positive 'bad sectors' errors. |
| 18:35.30 | Jester01 | I have looked at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=shared-mime-info , no relevant bug report apparent |
| 18:35.39 | Joint | PyroPhelia, yeah i see |
| 18:35.50 | Titan8990 | sometimes a low-level format will do the trick too |
| 18:36.20 | Jester01 | I will file one, then. thanks. |
| 18:36.26 | PyroPhelia | joint, what Titan said is very true as well. |
| 18:36.40 | Joint | i did, |
| 18:36.44 | Joint | but same error, |
| 18:36.48 | PyroPhelia | ext4 == the devil |
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| 18:37.14 | simonrvn | ext4, the new scapegoat |
| 18:37.22 | PyroPhelia | It is :/ |
| 18:37.35 | PyroPhelia | pos....can't beleive I put 16TB worth of data on it :/ |
| 18:37.35 | valdyn | something had to replace reiser... |
| 18:38.00 | simonrvn | valdyn: you got my reference :) |
| 18:38.08 | simonrvn | believe |
| 18:38.32 | valdyn | but its awfully quiet around xfs |
| 18:38.33 | valdyn | !xfs |
| 18:38.34 | dpkg | The filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance (metadata-only) journalling and large disk support. Zeroed files on power failures is fixed since kernel 2.6.17 (http://lwn.net/Articles/279036/). Supposedly not as mature, in linux, as <ext3>. Unable to be shrunk. Broken on ARM (BTS #423562). http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ #xfs on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:38.35 | PyroPhelia | i before e, except after c, and you're dyslexic |
| 18:38.38 | simonrvn | i wouldn't put 16 TB of anything on something that new |
| 18:38.50 | Joint | I'll make something uP |
| 18:38.51 | Joint | i guess, |
| 18:38.57 | Joint | a nice hack ;P |
| 18:39.20 | simonrvn | and you're wrong: Believe \Be*lieve"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Believed}; p. pr. & |
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| 18:39.40 | simonrvn | dict beleive |
| 18:39.42 | simonrvn | No definitions found for "beleive", perhaps you mean: |
| 18:40.04 | PyroPhelia | no...I admited I spelled it wrong, what are you going on about? |
| 18:40.17 | ys0srs | admitted, you mean |
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| 18:40.44 | simonrvn | PyroPhelia | i before e, except after c, and you're dyslexic # how is that admitting you were wrong? |
| 18:41.02 | simonrvn | dropping it now |
| 18:43.39 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 18:44.16 | swoody | heya wildc4rd :) |
| 18:44.47 | ntsasng | what problem if i delete all file in tmp directory? |
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| 18:45.24 | wols | ntsasng: your X session might not like it for example |
| 18:45.24 | valdyn | ntsasng: why would you do that? |
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| 18:45.46 | NoReflex | ntsasng: perhaps you want to first check which programs use the files in /tmp...But why would you need to delete those? |
| 18:45.52 | ntsasng | valdyn: i want give free my HDD |
| 18:45.55 | wols | valdyn: same reason people do "rm -rf <anything>" and then go "oh shit!" |
| 18:45.55 | ntsasng | valdyn: :D |
| 18:46.10 | valdyn | ntsasng: how much is in your tmp? |
| 18:46.30 | ntsasng | valdyn: 1.2GB |
| 18:46.41 | PyroPhelia | simonrvn, I was testing large file stability. ext traditionaly has had far superior recovery options than xfs. backups are nice, but being able to undelete something is a god send. Plus I was very tempted at all the benchmarks I have been reading about ext4. Alas, it's just not there yet :( |
| 18:46.42 | valdyn | ntsasng: find the large file.. |
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| 18:46.48 | ntsasng | valdyn: okie |
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| 18:46.58 | valdyn | ntsasng: its probably not needed, but the sockets in there you dont want to mess with |
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| 18:47.51 | ntsasng | i've just installed zend |
| 18:48.16 | ntsasng | zend's directory is lagest |
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| 18:48.57 | ntsasng | valdyn:i've just installed zendstudio |
| 18:49.17 | ntsasng | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.18 | simonrvn | PyroPhelia: it's not. it's not alpha but not release ready either ;) |
| 18:49.36 | PyroPhelia | aye |
| 18:49.51 | ntsasng | valdyn: can i delete it? |
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| 18:51.16 | ntsasng | valdyn: bye |
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| 18:52.17 | ikthus | cbroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash' : No such file or directory |
| 18:52.20 | ikthus | why ? |
| 18:52.21 | PyroPhelia | Titan8990, worked perfectly. thanks I completely overlooked that in the man. Core i7 compressions WOO! |
| 18:52.22 | ikthus | (chroot) |
| 18:52.39 | goose | can anyone tell me the package I need installed to run Perl's Net/IRC.pm |
| 18:53.09 | simonrvn | ikthus: um, it says why |
| 18:53.40 | simonrvn | !search |
| 18:53.40 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
| 18:54.20 | goose | tried searching, couldn't find it :/ |
| 18:54.39 | ikthus | simonrvn, i typed chroot /tmp/blah/ |
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| 18:55.22 | simonrvn | apt-cache search net irc perl ... libnet-irc-perl |
| 18:55.32 | simonrvn | 4th hit |
| 18:55.36 | bluesceada | anyone can tell how to get eclipse working in debian? |
| 18:55.38 | simonrvn | next! |
| 18:55.47 | simonrvn | bluesceada: it's borked right now |
| 18:55.56 | bluesceada | simonrvn: yeh and how can I get it working? |
| 18:56.00 | simonrvn | ikthus: "no such file or directory" |
| 18:56.00 | bluesceada | :S |
| 18:56.10 | bluesceada | some "hotfixes" ? |
| 18:56.12 | simonrvn | install upstream's |
| 18:56.14 | valdyn | bluesceada: download upstream package, extract at $HOME, run it |
| 18:56.23 | bluesceada | :S ..... |
| 18:56.24 | simonrvn | you get to keep both pieces |
| 18:56.47 | trone | Hello. I have a webcam 046d:08d9 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam IM/Connect (usb device), I read that I have to add the gspca modules, but I don't find them for my debian sid. someone can tell me where i can get them and what I have to do? |
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| 18:56.54 | bluesceada | thanks .. |
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| 18:57.21 | bluesceada | trone: apt-get install gspca-modules |
| 18:57.51 | bluesceada | trone: ah wait you said sid ... probably quite recent kernel, then try "m-a a-i gspca" |
| 18:57.52 | ikthus | ok thanks you simonrvn |
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| 18:57.59 | ikthus | i sunk into the creep |
| 18:58.08 | simonrvn | ikthus: this translates as, in case you haven't thought it through yet, /tmp/blah/bin/bash - if there's no such thing there, then you have a problem ;). |
| 18:58.23 | abrotman | trone: apt-cache search gspca ? |
| 18:58.58 | trone | bluesceada, abrotman: this is the point: apt-cache search (and module-assistant) don't find the modules... |
| 18:59.05 | trone | *module |
| 18:59.12 | abrotman | trone: or perhaps they're in the kernel now? |
| 18:59.17 | abrotman | !gspca |
| 18:59.17 | dpkg | The GSPCA driver provides support for digital cameras and webcams based on SPCA5xx chipsets. To install on Lenny: "aptitude install gspca-modules-$(uname -r) && modprobe gspca". This driver is included in mainline Linux kernels as of 2.6.27. Supported devices: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html . See also <uvcvideo>, <webcam>. |
| 18:59.38 | bluesceada | hm k |
| 18:59.54 | bluesceada | trone: ah so what kind of kernel are you using |
| 19:00.03 | ikthus | simonrvn, my hope is there is a solution for my problem, haha |
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| 19:00.35 | simonrvn | ikthus: um, having a proper chroot environment |
| 19:00.35 | trone | abrotman: I'm newbee about it. I have a 2.6.29 that I builded with not all the clues. -.-' Ok, I look my kernel config |
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| 19:01.54 | trone | from where dpkg take its info? |
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| 19:02.10 | isfranc | hello |
| 19:02.31 | bluesceada | trone: if you are building your own kernel it is of course all your responsibility |
| 19:02.40 | trone | bluesceada: yep. :-) |
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| 19:05.26 | ikthus | installing debian is so cool ! |
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| 19:05.45 | abrotman | trone: what's wrong with the Debian kernel ? |
| 19:05.52 | trone | abrotman: me. :-) |
| 19:05.59 | abrotman | that explains a lot ... |
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| 19:06.03 | abrotman | makes a note |
| 19:06.26 | trone | abrotman: I compiled my kernel to try to do it. Simply. |
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| 19:06.38 | knoxy | hi all.. I'm using rdesktop to access my windows 2003 server.. After some minutes, the session has been stopped.. Please, how can I do to fix it or debug rdesktop? |
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| 19:07.42 | isfranc | if a use feebootstrap, i can have in chroot fedora but run with my kernel ? |
| 19:08.17 | Titan8990 | knoxy: you mean it won't connect again? |
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| 19:09.52 | tarzeau | anyone tried freedink yet? |
| 19:09.57 | knoxy | Titan8990: I can reconnect |
| 19:10.16 | Titan8990 | knoxy: the connection just drop every few mins? |
| 19:10.49 | knoxy | Titan8990: the rdesktop stops (no session) |
| 19:10.51 | knoxy | Titan8990: Yes, but my session in windows 2003 is active.. only the rdesktop stops |
| 19:11.24 | Titan8990 | knoxy: you actually have to "logout" for it to kill the session. Are you sure its not a connectivity issue? |
| 19:11.37 | knoxy | Titan8990: my rdesktop not closes.. only "lock" my rdesktop |
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| 19:12.20 | Titan8990 | knoxy: so its freezing up to where you can't kill it? |
| 19:12.30 | knoxy | Titan8990: I'm looking the logs.. My network device is ok.. The ping is started to my windows 2003 server without errors.. |
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| 19:13.31 | NoReflex | knoxy: TCP timeout maybe? tough I think rdesktop would keep the connection alive |
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| 19:15.41 | knoxy | Titan8990: yes |
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| 19:16.19 | knoxy | NoReflex: no, my connection is active.. only rdesktop is locked.. is necessary to kill the proccess.. |
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| 19:18.32 | NoReflex | knoxy: could you try tsclient as well? |
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| 19:19.12 | knoxy | Now, I take ctrl + alt + f2 to kill the proccess.. because I get a blank window in rdesktop after few minutes |
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| 19:19.43 | knoxy | NoReflex: yes, the same error... in few minutes, the program lock |
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| 19:20.50 | NoReflex | knoxy: if both programs behave the same I suspect a newtorking issue. Can you make a full tcpdump of the traffic during a "session"? |
| 19:21.25 | knoxy | NoReflex: I'll try it now |
| 19:22.57 | knoxy | NoReflex: I'll try it now |
| 19:22.57 | knoxy | NoReflex: How can I do to debug rdesktop? |
| 19:23.06 | Titan8990 | strace rdesktop maybe? |
| 19:23.06 | NoReflex | knoxy: only method that comes to mind right now is strace |
| 19:23.06 | knoxy | right... |
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| 19:23.36 | knoxy | right... |
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