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| 00:00.01 | acu | Fatal server errro : no screens found |
| 00:00.30 | jpinx-eeepc | acu: sorry - beyond me |
| 00:00.44 | DJAnonimo | xyan: any idea ? |
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| 00:00.49 | adam__ | what is other name of alternative for gnome? |
| 00:01.05 | PinkFreud | acu: sounds like you're not using framebuffer, despite X trying to use it. |
| 00:01.06 | jpinx-eeepc | adam__: there are many |
| 00:01.13 | xyan | DJAnonimo: not really, id say you should reboot. but if you cant add a cronjob which runs ntpdate-debian periodically maybe |
| 00:01.15 | adam__ | there is not package kde |
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| 00:01.28 | adam__ | and how stop that logs on screen? |
| 00:01.35 | adam__ | because i see it in irssi with irc |
| 00:01.36 | adam__ | :/ |
| 00:01.41 | babilen | !tell adam__ -about install kde |
| 00:01.53 | PinkFreud | acu: if you're expecting to use a framebuffer, you'll need to make sure your video=... or vga=... arguments to the kernel are correct in grub's config |
| 00:02.15 | adam__ | there is not package kde |
| 00:02.22 | PinkFreud | acu: otherwise, modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use a different driver. |
| 00:02.32 | DJAnonimo | xyan: thanks anyway |
| 00:02.36 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about installit |
| 00:03.16 | adam__ | oh fuck me |
| 00:03.19 | adam__ | apt-get install kde |
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| 00:03.23 | adam__ | there is NOT package |
| 00:03.52 | Drunken | When I login, I get an error stating that my root partition is 100% full. I ran apt-get clean and it didn't change anything, would repartitioning / be a solution or is there something else I should do? |
| 00:03.54 | adb | adam__, fix your sources.list |
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| 00:05.10 | jpinx-eeepc | adam__: pastebin the error and your sources list |
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| 00:05.49 | adam__ | cool |
| 00:05.53 | adam__ | how do it? |
| 00:06.32 | adam__ | because as you know i dont have windows |
| 00:06.32 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about paste |
| 00:06.32 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about pastebinit |
| 00:07.52 | adam__ | f9cf08dd |
| 00:07.56 | adam__ | pastebin |
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| 00:08.06 | adam__ | pastebin.com/f9cf08dd |
| 00:08.36 | babilen | !sid |
| 00:08.36 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 00:08.51 | adam__ | oh god |
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| 00:08.52 | adam__ | and what now? |
| 00:09.30 | babilen | !tell adam__ -about sidux |
| 00:09.52 | adam__ | and |
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| 00:10.16 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about squeeze |
| 00:10.25 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about testing |
| 00:10.34 | adam__ | what can i do |
| 00:10.53 | adam__ | now |
| 00:11.04 | babilen | adam__: But why is Gnome fucked? |
| 00:11.12 | adam__ | oh now is all fucked |
| 00:11.16 | babilen | adam__: What are the symptoms? |
| 00:11.19 | adam__ | how fix all? |
| 00:11.28 | babilen | laughs |
| 00:11.33 | adam__ | i made apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade |
| 00:11.36 | adam__ | and after that |
| 00:11.43 | adam__ | i see only background color and mouse |
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| 00:11.50 | adam__ | and i do apt-get autoremove |
| 00:11.56 | adam__ | and that probably uninstall my gnome |
| 00:11.58 | adam__ | ah.............. |
| 00:12.16 | Drunken | how can i fix my root directory? :) |
| 00:12.34 | adam__ | what? |
| 00:13.08 | adam__ | can i do downgrade to lenny |
| 00:13.10 | adam__ | and fix all? |
| 00:13.13 | adam__ | or sth like it? |
| 00:14.21 | Drunken | http://pastebin.com/m19f748f6 |
| 00:14.26 | Drunken | anyone got some ideas? |
| 00:15.23 | amphi | Drunken: what's it full of? |
| 00:15.30 | Drunken | i don't know. |
| 00:15.35 | adam__ | how can i do now? |
| 00:15.38 | adam__ | help me |
| 00:15.42 | adam__ | i cant watch movie |
| 00:15.46 | Drunken | there are no files in the /root/home dir |
| 00:15.46 | qwd | !enter |
| 00:15.47 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 00:15.50 | Drunken | or on the desktop |
| 00:16.00 | amphi | Drunken: too many kernels? |
| 00:16.06 | Drunken | how can I check? |
| 00:16.15 | adam__ | !space |
| 00:16.15 | dpkg | hmm... space is the final frontier. or home. or something you wish you had in your SUV. |
| 00:16.19 | amphi | Drunken: ls |
| 00:16.22 | Drunken | the only things I've really installed are wine and my nvidia drunkers |
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| 00:16.28 | adam__ | !fixall |
| 00:16.29 | Drunken | ls is displayed in that pastebing |
| 00:16.29 | amphi | Drunken: du |
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| 00:16.43 | adam__ | what can i do |
| 00:16.49 | Drunken | pastebin* |
| 00:16.58 | adam__ | ? |
| 00:17.05 | Drunken | running du by itself goes nuts |
| 00:17.09 | amphi | Drunken: du -hs /boot |
| 00:17.30 | Drunken | 16M/boot |
| 00:17.49 | amphi | Drunken: du -hs /root |
| 00:18.01 | Drunken | 82M/root |
| 00:18.13 | amphi | ... |
| 00:18.16 | adb | . |
| 00:18.19 | adam__ | please helppppppppp |
| 00:18.27 | Drunken | good? bad? ugly? :P |
| 00:18.37 | amphi | adam__: I know nothing of gnome |
| 00:18.51 | adam__ | now all dont work |
| 00:18.57 | adam__ | can i do downgrade |
| 00:18.59 | adam__ | to lenny? |
| 00:19.00 | adam__ | how |
| 00:19.07 | adb | no |
| 00:19.12 | adam__ | shit |
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| 00:22.58 | adam__ | !desktop |
| 00:22.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, desktop is see http://xwinman.org/ |
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| 00:23.08 | adam__ | !window manager |
| 00:23.08 | dpkg | [window manager] a special class of X applications which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list available window managers in your system, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". For a guide to available window managers, see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 00:23.20 | adb | !tell adam__ -about selftell |
| 00:23.21 | amphi | Drunken: du -h --max-depth=1 /root |
| 00:23.56 | Drunken | http://pastebin.com/m70a5ca0e |
| 00:23.57 | qwd | adam__: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments#Desktop_comparison_information |
| 00:24.18 | Drunken | ah |
| 00:24.23 | Drunken | that damn winetricks cache |
| 00:24.33 | Drunken | 78 mb |
| 00:24.42 | adam__ | qwd: cool, but my opera dont work under console |
| 00:24.54 | Drunken | rm -r /root/.winetrickscache gonna mess anything up? |
| 00:24.56 | amphi | w3m! |
| 00:25.09 | adam__ | how check that apt is not fucked? |
| 00:25.23 | adam__ | because it write me some kind of info |
| 00:25.30 | adam__ | about stoped packagess |
| 00:25.32 | adam__ | always |
| 00:25.41 | amphi | adam__: 'kept back'? |
| 00:25.51 | Drunken | amphi? |
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| 00:26.07 | amphi | Drunken: no idea - only root's winetricks or whatever that is |
| 00:26.21 | Drunken | yea. it prob happened when i was installing wine |
| 00:26.25 | Drunken | and configuring it |
| 00:26.28 | Drunken | here goes nothing |
| 00:26.28 | amphi | wonders why a winish thing has been run by root |
| 00:26.40 | Drunken | i didn't know what i was doing. plain and simple |
| 00:26.42 | amphi | or at all ;) |
| 00:26.49 | Drunken | ;) |
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| 00:27.12 | amphi | Drunken: well, getting rid of that will give you a bit of leeway |
| 00:27.19 | adam__ | that write "3 packages not updated" |
| 00:27.24 | adam__ | how fix it? |
| 00:27.31 | Drunken | yes. |
| 00:27.39 | Drunken | now i've got 75% space left |
| 00:27.49 | amphi | adam__: you are on testing? |
| 00:27.53 | Drunken | so, what are the possibilities of this encounter again? |
| 00:27.57 | adam__ | yes |
| 00:28.00 | adam__ | lenny |
| 00:28.02 | adam__ | no |
| 00:28.03 | adam__ | squeeze |
| 00:28.11 | adam__ | on sqeueeze |
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| 00:28.29 | amphi | adam__: you should be doing aptitude safe-upgrade generally |
| 00:28.41 | adam__ | so write it? |
| 00:28.57 | amphi | uodate first |
| 00:29.05 | adam__ | one |
| 00:29.07 | adam__ | done |
| 00:29.10 | adam__ | and what now |
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| 00:29.30 | jpinx-eeepc | adam__: what do you have on your system? Is a reinstall possible? Because it appears tthat you are totally incapable of running squeeze |
| 00:29.30 | amphi | I know nothing about gnome, as I said |
| 00:29.46 | adam__ | i wanna have my files |
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| 00:30.02 | adam__ | and i cant access it from windows |
| 00:30.21 | adam__ | or maybe |
| 00:30.28 | adam__ | i cant move it on partiton window |
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| 00:30.38 | adam__ | but how reinstall debian with reinstall only debian |
| 00:30.43 | adam__ | no fuck my windows |
| 00:30.58 | amphi | adam__: /home is a separate partition? |
| 00:31.03 | adam__ | no |
| 00:31.10 | adam__ | but i have mounted windows |
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| 00:31.14 | adam__ | so can i move |
| 00:31.21 | adam__ | but how remove only debian |
| 00:31.25 | adam__ | and install debian |
| 00:31.29 | adam__ | without crash windows |
| 00:32.03 | amphi | !pl |
| 00:32.03 | dpkg | polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
| 00:32.14 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about enter |
| 00:32.19 | adam__ | noone in poland love debian |
| 00:32.23 | amphi | adam__: maybe it would be easier for you there |
| 00:32.24 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell adam__ about dualboot |
| 00:32.26 | adam__ | 1 man on chan |
| 00:32.32 | amphi | heh |
| 00:32.37 | adam__ | i work as telegrapher |
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| 00:34.55 | adam__ | oh fuck |
| 00:35.03 | adam__ | automount downt work too |
| 00:35.05 | adam__ | fucked debian |
| 00:35.11 | adam__ | nothing work |
| 00:35.30 | jpinx-eeepc | adam__: you installed it yourself the first time, so install it again and stay on lenny |
| 00:35.40 | adam__ | my porn will lost |
| 00:35.56 | adam__ | problem is |
| 00:36.00 | adam__ | i dont install it first time |
| 00:36.06 | adam__ | i use it from last 3 versions |
| 00:36.07 | adam__ | lOL |
| 00:36.10 | Drunken | lol. btw amphi, thank you for helping me find that problem child |
| 00:36.18 | aeg | Hi folks, some1 can help to get x2vnc working .. now i get only "Too many security failures" |
| 00:36.28 | adam__ | i cant life with that |
| 00:36.34 | adam__ | i go kill my self |
| 00:36.42 | Mowee | Hi, how to allow to a user to list only his own directory ? |
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| 00:37.06 | aeg | put the user in is own group |
| 00:37.45 | Mowee | yea, but I dont want it see other directories |
| 00:38.21 | xyan | Mowee: give him rbash as login shell and he wont be able to traverse the filesystem |
| 00:38.40 | Mowee | How to? |
| 00:39.04 | xyan | vipw |
| 00:39.50 | Mowee | ok thx |
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| 00:45.51 | amphi | Drunken: you're welcome |
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| 00:48.50 | limpio | hi, is the business card installation cd discontinued? i can't find it at debian.org |
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| 00:49.49 | xyan | limpio: no it isnt, see the bottom of the page http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 00:50.08 | limpio | thanks, xyan |
| 00:52.55 | Drunken | are there any good programs in debian for creating and editing flash movies? |
| 00:55.04 | Osax | Drunken, synfig |
| 00:55.23 | Drunken | Osax, sweet. Much thanks |
| 00:55.28 | Osax | np |
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| 00:57.09 | Drunken | heheh |
| 00:57.16 | Drunken | shoulda installed the studio instead of the synfig. |
| 00:57.25 | adb | which package has 'getcwd' ? |
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| 00:58.24 | Drunken | hm |
| 00:58.29 | Drunken | it doesn't seem to open .swf files |
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| 00:59.20 | Osax | Drunken, .swf is a compiled file, you just can't open it |
| 00:59.32 | Osax | you have to 'extract' it to .fla before you can open it |
| 00:59.38 | Osax | AFAIK |
| 00:59.42 | Drunken | hm |
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| 01:00.03 | xyan | Drunken: install flasm and dissasemble the swf |
| 01:00.14 | Titan8990 | adb: gnulib according to apt-file |
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| 01:00.15 | Drunken | ok |
| 01:00.40 | adb | Titan8990, don't in , just tried |
| 01:01.16 | Xenguy | .oO(omega, hrm) |
| 01:01.19 | Titan8990 | adb: gnulib: /usr/share/gnulib/lib/getcwd.c |
| 01:01.53 | adb | Titan8990, i means the command "getcwd" |
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| 01:02.34 | Drunken | xyan, will the synfig won't open the .as |
| 01:02.35 | Titan8990 | adb: doesn't appear to be in a debian package, how does that differ from pwd? |
| 01:03.08 | xyan | Drunken: ah well which version of flash? if greater than 9 then your probably arsed |
| 01:03.25 | Osax | adb, thought it was a php function |
| 01:03.26 | Drunken | it probably is. hard to say. working on website for a class |
| 01:03.30 | Osax | http://php.net/manual/en/function.getcwd.php |
| 01:03.31 | adb | Titan8990, i don't know , just seen ppls here telling about "getcwd" , so i just wander off |
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| 01:04.30 | amphi | adb: what do you mean? it's a standard libc func |
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| 01:05.27 | adb | amphi, ok , i missunderstand maybe |
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| 01:06.15 | rares | is it normal for console-kit-daemon to have like 40 threads? |
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| 01:08.00 | rumpsy | What should i do to unrar files in lenny |
| 01:08.41 | rumpsy | i can't able to extract it, only i can do is view files. |
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| 01:09.06 | xyan | rumpsy: you most likely want to use unrar-nonfree to extract them |
| 01:09.08 | adb | unrar-free |
| 01:09.52 | rumpsy | will that work? |
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| 01:10.07 | rumpsy | unrar-nonfree? |
| 01:10.36 | rumpsy | !LtL |
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| 01:10.49 | xyan | rumpsy: it works for me, as well as p7zip-rar |
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| 01:11.11 | mjgardes | pokes testUser |
| 01:11.49 | rumpsy | xyan: okay i'll try your idea |
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| 01:13.37 | adb | judd, versions unrar-nonfree |
| 01:13.38 | judd | adb: unrar-nonfree -- |
| 01:13.42 | adb | judd, versions unrar-free |
| 01:13.43 | judd | adb: unrar-free -- etch: 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 lenny: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1 sid: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1 squeeze: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1 |
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| 01:14.02 | adb | xyan, ^^ |
| 01:15.43 | SimonRC | I am having problems trying to install openoffice. It depends indirectly on mysql-common, but that conflicts with one of its own virtual packages, and nothing happens when I press "+" on "mysql-common" in aptitude |
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| 01:16.23 | rumpsy | do , apt-get autoremove |
| 01:16.45 | rumpsy | and then try apt-get install openoffice |
| 01:16.51 | xyan | adb: err its been a few days back when i installed that and back then it was named unrar-nonfree |
| 01:17.11 | adb | i see .. |
| 01:17.13 | xyan | so well unrar is the nonfree one now |
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| 01:17.59 | SimonRC | rumpsy: what are the criteria for "unused" for autoremove? |
| 01:18.09 | SimonRC | I don't want to uninstall anything useful |
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| 01:18.52 | rumpsy | it will remove conflits |
| 01:18.58 | SimonRC | it did nothing |
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| 01:19.33 | SimonRC | and the second command said "E: Couldn't find package openoffice" |
| 01:19.46 | rumpsy | are you using synaptic package manager? |
| 01:19.54 | adb | openoffice.org |
| 01:20.18 | SimonRC | rumpsy: aptitude |
| 01:20.29 | rumpsy | use this, apt-get install openoffice |
| 01:20.30 | adb | SimonRC, apt-cache search openoffice.org |
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| 01:21.21 | adb | rumpsy, no , not openoffice , just openoffice.org |
| 01:21.44 | SimonRC | I did "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org" ... |
| 01:21.57 | SimonRC | it puts up a message about "The following packages have unmet dependencies." |
| 01:22.11 | SimonRC | also, it seems to to have installed or uninstalled anything |
| 01:22.18 | SimonRC | or downloaded anything |
| 01:22.22 | adb | SimonRC, what's your sources.list ? |
| 01:22.49 | SimonRC | sources.list or sources.list.d? |
| 01:22.52 | adb | SimonRC, running what exactly ? |
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| 01:23.17 | rumpsy | adb: explain him fully, detail he need |
| 01:23.18 | SimonRC | I have "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" |
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| 01:23.24 | SimonRC | plus the matching deb-src lines |
| 01:23.44 | SimonRC | (though I don't use source packages as far as I know) |
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| 01:25.37 | gumbox | does the lenny dvd 1 come with the source for all the packages? |
| 01:25.48 | gumbox | sources* for each package |
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| 01:26.44 | SimonRC | adb: so I think I am running squeeze |
| 01:26.54 | adb | SimonRC, openoffice.org is a great thing , so needs to pick only those you needs , as openoffice.org-base , openoffice.org-l10n-YourLang , openoffice.org-writer |
| 01:26.57 | jair | guys, I am using vim on debian lenny 5.0.3 and I have a file for my bind9 server with a weird character right in the top something like this ===> <U+FEFF> how can I get rid of that? I can only see it when i cat the document... |
| 01:27.48 | SimonRC | jair: that is a byte-order mark |
| 01:27.53 | SimonRC | but I don't know why it is there |
| 01:28.07 | MAd_haTTer | jair: wierd |
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| 01:28.20 | SimonRC | it is a unicode character that looks different in different representations of unicode, so that programs can tell them apart |
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| 01:28.33 | jair | SimonRC: is there a way i can remove that? I though it was because a guy saved the file on open office with UTF-8 and sent it to me. |
| 01:28.37 | adb | SimonRC, but first i'm not sure you done right upgrade to squeeze , that's why you have some installing issues |
| 01:29.11 | SimonRC | jair: I don't know |
| 01:29.20 | SimonRC | try using vi maybe? |
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| 01:29.37 | SimonRC | adb: this is the first issue I have had |
| 01:29.40 | MAd_haTTer | jair: cat file |grep -v "<U+FEFF>" > newfile |
| 01:29.47 | SimonRC | adb: I upgraded months ago |
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| 01:30.15 | adb | dpkg -l libc6 | grep ii , says ? |
| 01:30.15 | dpkg | ii libc6 | grep ii , says 3.2-4 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 01:30.35 | _Lirezh | Is there a way to make a switch forget an arp entry, or reask for one ? |
| 01:30.36 | SimonRC | adb: I have been updating every day or two, and letting aptitude upgrade packages with the "U" key |
| 01:31.03 | SimonRC | adb: "ii libc6 2.10.2-2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries" |
| 01:31.26 | jair | MAd_haTTer: let me try that |
| 01:31.47 | adb | SimonRC, anyways seems now your aptitude has issues , |
| 01:32.04 | adb | judd, versions libc6 |
| 01:32.05 | judd | adb: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.10.2-2 squeeze: 2.10.2-2 |
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| 01:33.36 | adb | SimonRC, ok do > aptitude install openoffice.org-base , and pastebin the output to |
| 01:33.45 | jair | MAd_haTTer: that did not help.... :( |
| 01:33.46 | adb | paste.debian.net |
| 01:33.54 | jair | MAd_haTTer: same result still =( |
| 01:35.14 | SimonRC | adb: well this is interesting... |
| 01:35.24 | SimonRC | it's asking a question |
| 01:35.25 | adb | it worked ? |
| 01:35.43 | adb | !pastebin |
| 01:35.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 01:36.42 | SimonRC | adb: http://paste.debian.net/53098/ |
| 01:36.43 | jair | I really don't know how to get rid of that character :( <U+FEFF> |
| 01:37.30 | SimonRC | jair: couldn't vi do it? |
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| 01:38.24 | jair | SimonRC: nope when I run vim I can not see the character only when I run cat... |
| 01:38.32 | SimonRC | odd |
| 01:39.13 | adb | SimonRC, try "Y" and tell us what's new .. |
| 01:39.16 | jair | SimonRC: I only cn see that character when I run the command cat db.zonefile | less |
| 01:40.20 | SimonRC | adb: http://paste.debian.net/53099/ |
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| 01:40.50 | SimonRC | jair: if you edit in vim, does :set list anything relevant-looking? |
| 01:41.01 | SimonRC | I am just guessing here |
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| 01:41.36 | adb | SimonRC, keep "Y" to ends .. |
| 01:42.05 | jair | SimonRC: I will check right now |
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| 01:42.38 | SimonRC | adb: http://paste.debian.net/53100/ |
| 01:43.28 | markinfo | How can I activate raid0 on system where I have started live CD? |
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| 01:43.49 | adb | judd, versions libmysqlclient15 |
| 01:43.49 | judd | adb: libmysqlclient15 -- |
| 01:44.03 | adb | judd, versions libmysqlclient15off |
| 01:44.04 | judd | adb: libmysqlclient15off -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8 etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch11 lenny: 5.0.51a-24 etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2 |
| 01:44.11 | adb | judd, versions libmysqlclient16off |
| 01:44.12 | judd | adb: libmysqlclient16off -- |
| 01:44.28 | adb | judd, versions libmysqlclient16 |
| 01:44.29 | judd | adb: libmysqlclient16 -- lenny-backports: 5.1.37-2~bpo50+1 sid: 5.1.41-3 |
| 01:45.11 | CodeNinja | how can I unmount /home? I'm logged in as root and it says resource busy.. but theres no one else logged in |
| 01:46.24 | SimonRC | CodeNinja: maybe lsof can find what is using it |
| 01:46.27 | amphi | lsof /home |
| 01:46.58 | SimonRC | amphi: I didn't realise lsof was quite that easy to use |
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| 01:47.02 | CodeNinja | ._. parted.... but parted is hung, kill -9 and killall parted wont kill it |
| 01:47.04 | SimonRC | the --help is a bit intimidating |
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| 01:47.33 | CodeNinja | ok... so how can I kill a process that wont respond to kill commands? |
| 01:48.15 | amphi | CodeNinja: alt-sysrq-s & alt-sysrq-u might unmount it/remount it ro; it'll do that for all other partitions too |
| 01:48.16 | adb | SimonRC, see above , you have two libmysqlclient16 , in lenny-backports or sid , so install whichone you want by hands (wget it from packages.debian.org and do > dpkg -i it) |
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| 01:48.40 | CodeNinja | amphi: :S thats not what I'm looking for :\ |
| 01:48.52 | SimonRC | adb: that seems a bit ugly |
| 01:48.58 | adb | no |
| 01:49.19 | adb | it's usual in squeeze |
| 01:50.33 | CodeNinja | amphi: I have a drive thats dying (/ and /webdev are there) I need to unmount /home and mount it elsewhere, copy it into /home on the / partition, and then dd the drive to the drive that contained /home on it |
| 01:50.50 | CodeNinja | but I can't do any of that without killing parted, I'd rather not reboot... the drive is really not happy |
| 01:50.54 | SimonRC | adb: I thought testing was more stable than that |
| 01:51.42 | adb | SimonRC, it's the only chance to keep your testing up and running .. |
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| 01:53.23 | SimonRC | should I add lenny-backports to my sources.list to help in the future? |
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| 01:53.58 | adb | SimonRC, no |
| 01:54.55 | jpinx-eeepc | SimonRC: why would you add *lenny*-backports to your *squeeze* installation? |
| 01:55.08 | adb | SimonRC, run on 32 bit ? |
| 01:55.16 | SimonRC | I don't suppose there is something more up-to-date than "stable" but without the dependancy problems of "testing" |
| 01:55.21 | SimonRC | is there? |
| 01:55.46 | SimonRC | adb: how do I tell? |
| 01:55.52 | SimonRC | I assume it is 32bit |
| 01:55.53 | pipeline | SimonRC: no. |
| 01:56.10 | adb | uname -r |
| 01:56.13 | Joelito | SimonRC testing is just fine as it is |
| 01:56.27 | Joelito | SimonRC don't break the systema mixing repos |
| 01:56.30 | SimonRC | adb: oh, I should have remembered that one... "2.6.30-2-686" |
| 01:56.34 | CodeNinja | :( looks like reboot it is |
| 01:57.12 | SimonRC | Joelito: well, fine except for the problem that brought me on here |
| 01:57.27 | Joelito | SimonRC which is :p |
| 01:57.41 | CodeNinja | I'm going to be sad if it decides to fsck the disk and goes nuts |
| 01:57.52 | jpinx-eeepc | !testing |
| 01:57.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are ... |
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| 01:57.55 | adb | SimonRC, ok , do that > wget http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.1/libmysqlclient16_5.1.41-3_i386.deb |
| 01:58.01 | jpinx-eeepc | Joelito: ^^ |
| 01:58.36 | SimonRC | adb: I just did "sudo wget "http://backports.sipo.nl/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.1/libmysqlclient16_5.1.37-2~bpo50+1_i386.deb"" |
| 01:58.42 | Joelito | jpinx-eeepc I meant about the problem of SimonRC |
| 01:58.53 | SimonRC | adb: and then "sudo dpkg -i libmysqlclient16_5.1.37-2~bpo50+1_i386.deb" |
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| 01:59.02 | lolufail | hi! |
| 01:59.03 | Joelito | I use testing :D |
| 01:59.07 | adb | SimonRC, no needs of sudo .. anyway is done ? |
| 01:59.21 | lolufail | can I use kvm with the vserver kernel? |
| 01:59.22 | SimonRC | no: http://paste.debian.net/53102/ |
| 01:59.25 | adb | SimonRC, nvm .. |
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| 02:00.08 | adb | SimonRC, so > aptitude install mysql-common |
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| 02:01.34 | SimonRC | adb: I can't install mysql-common: http://paste.debian.net/53103/ |
| 02:02.15 | adb | judd, versions mysql-common |
| 02:02.17 | judd | adb: mysql-common -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8 etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch11 lenny: 5.0.51a-24 etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2 sid: 5.0.67-1 sid: 5.0.75-1 experimental: 5.1.31-2 lenny-backports: 5.1.37-2~bpo50+1 squeeze: 5.1.37-2 sid: 5.1.41-1 sid: 5.1.41-3 |
| 02:03.07 | adb | SimonRC, you changed again your sources list ... |
| 02:03.16 | SimonRC | adb: huh? |
| 02:03.21 | CodeNinja | phew it did it ok |
| 02:03.25 | jochar | evening |
| 02:03.43 | jochar | im still facing the problem with booting :( |
| 02:03.51 | SimonRC | adb: its still squeeze |
| 02:04.05 | adb | aptitude update |
| 02:04.10 | jochar | mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: no such device |
| 02:04.36 | jochar | target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init |
| 02:04.51 | jochar | and im stuck in initramfs :( |
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| 02:05.09 | jochar | grub was reinstalled |
| 02:05.23 | SimonRC | adb: http://paste.debian.net/53104/ |
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| 02:06.47 | adb | try again , aptitude install mysql-common |
| 02:07.00 | jochar | anyone knows how to fix this? |
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| 02:07.54 | SimonRC | adb: http://paste.debian.net/53105/ |
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| 02:09.10 | SimonRC | jochar: what disk drives can you mount? |
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| 02:10.31 | SimonRC | jochar: it's not just a case of partition numbers changing is it? |
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| 02:12.13 | adb | SimonRC, apt-cache policy mysql-common |
| 02:12.50 | SimonRC | http://paste.debian.net/53106/ |
| 02:13.10 | adb | SimonRC, see , mysql-common in squeeze: 5.1.37-2 , wget and dpkg it |
| 02:13.32 | SimonRC | is there a recommended mirror, or di I just pick one? |
| 02:13.48 | adb | any you want |
| 02:14.28 | adb | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.1/mysql-common_5.1.37-2_all.deb |
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| 02:15.31 | adb | but it's strange that that is not showed in aptitude update .. |
| 02:16.02 | SimonRC | it seems to have worked: http://paste.debian.net/53107/ |
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| 02:17.13 | adb | now sudo dpkg -i libmysqlclient16_5.1.37-2~bpo50+1_i386.deb |
| 02:17.18 | SimonRC | ( in curses aptitude, it is showing up in the "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" section ) |
| 02:17.40 | SimonRC | succeeded |
| 02:17.44 | adb | ok |
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| 02:19.47 | adb | try reinstall openoffice.org-base |
| 02:20.47 | SimonRC | ugh mega download |
| 02:20.56 | adb | sure .. |
| 02:21.18 | SimonRC | it'll take some horrid amount of time to download |
| 02:21.21 | SimonRC | like, 90 seconds |
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| 02:21.31 | SimonRC | ;-) |
| 02:21.36 | adb | abiword was simpler |
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| 02:23.12 | SimonRC | adb: is it a problem if a package conflicts with and replaces one of its own virtual package names? |
| 02:23.43 | adb | good then , keep on |
| 02:23.51 | neoalex | hi, I have server with 3 SATA drives, they get assigned different letters everytime I reboot, is there any way to force them to stay the same? |
| 02:24.14 | adb | !uuid |
| 02:24.15 | dpkg | [uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (libata transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
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| 02:26.13 | Caelum | the ssmtp in sid is borked |
| 02:26.30 | adb | use bts |
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| 02:27.15 | Caelum | it hardcodes mailhub:25 and ignores ssmtp.conf |
| 02:27.57 | adb | or compile from sources .. |
| 02:28.04 | SimonRC | adb: still going smoothly |
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| 02:28.10 | BerMeJo | hii all |
| 02:28.18 | Caelum | downgrades it |
| 02:28.24 | adb | SimonRC, great |
| 02:28.30 | BerMeJo | anybody can help me with this network problem ??? --> http://pastebin.com/m1af230e3 |
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| 02:29.21 | BerMeJo | before networking was ok! |
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| 02:30.01 | adb | BerMeJo, see /msg dpkg 70 |
| 02:30.26 | SimonRC | adb: the real lesson for me here is not to uninstall something just to try to upgrade something else just because the "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" looks untidy. :-) |
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| 02:32.52 | adb | SimonRC, i guess that is a network issue , yours in special |
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| 02:33.11 | SimonRC | adb: a network issue? how? |
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| 02:33.53 | adb | not connected to debian server from time to time |
| 02:34.07 | SimonRC | hm |
| 02:34.12 | adb | connecting * |
| 02:34.38 | SimonRC | I was doing "update" without getting any errors most of the time |
| 02:34.41 | acu | what is the best text based browser (I am trying to install Squeeze and it does not work X -sucks) so I need to be able to go o the nvidia web to download th driver |
| 02:34.53 | tensorpudding | best is subjective |
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| 02:35.04 | tensorpudding | try lynx, then links, then elinks |
| 02:35.05 | SimonRC | acu: I like w3m myself |
| 02:35.09 | amphi | acu: w3m is nice |
| 02:35.11 | tensorpudding | there is w3m too |
| 02:35.25 | amphi | tensorpudding: there is indeed ;) |
| 02:35.27 | acu | here we go with subjective |
| 02:35.30 | acu | :) |
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| 02:35.39 | tensorpudding | if all you need is to use it for getting the driver, any old one will do |
| 02:36.20 | SimonRC | Also, according to section 6.5 of the debian FAQ, packages in testing "mustn't have dependencies that make them uninstallable". |
| 02:36.46 | acu | how do you start it |
| 02:36.52 | acu | w3m |
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| 02:37.05 | SimonRC | acu: you need to give it an address on the command line |
| 02:37.17 | acu | ah |
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| 02:37.29 | SimonRC | that fits with what I have generally experienced with Testing |
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| 02:37.51 | SimonRC | ah well |
| 02:37.58 | SimonRC | adb: thanks for the help |
| 02:38.04 | adb | yw |
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| 02:38.58 | SimonRC | (the hardest package problem I have had to solve before was resolved by picking the lower of two available versions of something) |
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| 02:39.32 | SimonRC | adb: BTW, will aptitude eventually uninstall those packages I had to use dpkg for? |
| 02:39.45 | adb | no |
| 02:39.59 | SimonRC | how do I know when to uninstall them? |
| 02:40.06 | adb | dpkg -P is last resort |
| 02:40.06 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, adb |
| 02:41.03 | acu | whao it sucks big time compared with Firefox |
| 02:41.21 | adb | use dpkg -l packagename to "see" installed packages |
| 02:41.29 | amphi | acu: you have that backwards, I think ;) |
| 02:41.33 | acu | '' |
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| 02:41.56 | Caelum | it can show images in a terminal! |
| 02:42.00 | SimonRC | adb: not just aptitude? |
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| 02:42.39 | SimonRC | Caelum: yeah, there are a couple of ways a text terminal can be capable of graphics, and w3m knows what control codes to send to make it happen, it seems |
| 02:42.39 | adb | sure aptitude , but if it don't "want" , dpkg -P packagename |
| 02:42.52 | mango_ | hello, I have run a script to create a bridge (tap) for vbox and I ended up having too many taps...how can I remove please. I am running debian lenny |
| 02:42.54 | mango_ | thanks |
| 02:42.54 | acu | how do you get out of w3m - it looks that only yesterday the internet was invented :) |
| 02:43.04 | SimonRC | acu: q |
| 02:43.39 | acu | Thanks SimonRC: I pressed all keys except q:) |
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| 02:43.52 | SimonRC | also ctrl-C might work |
| 02:43.59 | SimonRC | q is a common one |
| 02:44.17 | SimonRC | less and aptitude use it to quit things too |
| 02:44.26 | acu | I tried CTRL-C (maybe it was on a different keyboard ?) |
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| 02:45.01 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.17 | SimonRC | ctrl-Z only suspends things though |
| 02:45.26 | SimonRC | you still have to terminate them |
| 02:45.51 | Caelum | I'd love a terminal with a built in web browser you can control with escape codes |
| 02:46.11 | Caelum | there used to be the xmlterm project, but it went nowhere |
| 02:46.36 | acu | whaouy: Lynx has colors but is also unintuitive - I need to go to nvidia.com |
| 02:46.48 | Caelum | acu: elinks is also good |
| 02:46.53 | SimonRC | adb: I assume the IF in the distant future the series of updates to the OOo packages stop them depending on these manually-install packages, I can just uninstall them in the usual way from aptitude? |
| 02:46.53 | Caelum | acu: it has colors and utf8 |
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| 02:47.58 | acu | Caelum: elinks is 10 MB so it should be the best :) |
| 02:48.28 | adb | SimonRC, i just told you , 03:40<adb> sure aptitude , but if it don't "want" , dpkg -P packagename |
| 02:48.48 | SimonRC | what do you mean by ``if it don't "want"''? |
| 02:49.01 | acu | eli |
| 02:49.09 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.14 | SimonRC | ah, ok |
| 02:49.18 | SimonRC | yeah |
| 02:49.20 | SimonRC | thanks then |
| 02:50.16 | SimonRC | right... bed-time for me. It's 02:50 here. |
| 02:50.20 | SimonRC | goes |
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| 02:56.59 | acu | can you send a file through an ssh session ? |
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| 02:57.39 | Xenguy | acu: sounds like scp ? |
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| 02:59.59 | tensorpudding | acu: rsync can do that too |
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| 03:23.43 | pm2 | Hi - I'm trying to setup pam_ldap to authenticate against active directory. I think I almost have it setup correctly. If I try to login as bjones, using the correct password, I see this in the log: |
| 03:23.53 | pm2 | Dec 3 22:22:38 ip67-153-192-86 sshd[6142]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "CN=bob jones,OU=Employees,DC=physamb,DC=local" (Invalid credentials) |
| 03:24.27 | pm2 | I know I'm putting in the right password, and if I do ldapsearch -x -D "CN=bob jones,OU=Employees,DC=physamb,DC=local" -h myhost -W --- it all works |
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| 03:30.39 | pm2 | Is it possible to use pam_ldap without nss_ldap? |
| 03:31.14 | catsup_ | yes |
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| 03:32.10 | catsup_ | wait what, for active directory, maybe not |
| 03:32.13 | startx09 | hi im using lenny, when i click on workspace switcher the top and bottom panels disappear |
| 03:32.20 | startx09 | i have compiz installed |
| 03:32.24 | jochar | SimonRC: my main drive and one aditional drive on an addon card |
| 03:32.33 | pm2 | catsup_: Maybe I need to create local copies of the accounts I want to have access? |
| 03:33.17 | catsup_ | pm2: shrug. i never used active directory. |
| 03:33.35 | pm2 | OK, thanks anyway |
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| 03:36.12 | jochar | hmm looks like everytime i add hdd it mounts the maind drive as last... is there any way how to fix that? |
| 03:37.28 | jochar | the main drive is connected to th motherboard and the other ones are connected to addon sata controller |
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| 03:45.29 | battro | When I run the command "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i purge" I get "libapache2-mod-python purge." but when I try to remove it or purge it again it still shows up. Is there a way to completely remove it? |
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| 03:55.17 | goose | trying to increase the security of my debian box.. how do I disable password SSH login? (leaving only rsa/dsa login) |
| 03:55.38 | jast6 | read /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 03:55.47 | goose | alright, thanks |
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| 03:56.14 | jmarsden | goose: man sshd_config is also worth doing :) |
| 03:56.27 | goose | alright, thanks again |
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| 03:57.36 | Linux-IRC | Hello, as i see for the package of fedora 11 ,it's name package-fc11.rpm for fedora 12,it's package-fc12.rpm, is there any policy like that for debian,are the package name different for different debian version ? |
| 03:58.09 | goose | do I need to restart the entire system for the changes to take effect? |
| 03:58.32 | jast6 | goose just sshd will do |
| 03:58.49 | Linux-IRC | Or are package-name same for all version of debian ? are the package-name for debian5 and debian4 same ? |
| 03:58.53 | goose | what's the command for that? :S sorry, don't know where the service is located.. init.d ? |
| 03:59.13 | jast6 | maybe /etc/init.d/ssh restart, though reload might suffice |
| 03:59.29 | goose | alright. thanks again :) |
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| 04:00.40 | Linux-IRC | Hello, as i see for the package of fedora 11 ,it's name package-fc11.rpm for fedora 12,it's package-fc12.rpm, is there any policy like that for debian,are the package name different for different debian version ? |
| 04:00.49 | Linux-IRC | Or are package-name same for all version of debian ? are the package-name for debian5 and debian4 same ? |
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| 04:06.46 | CodeNinja | how can I find out the hd (x, x) number specified for a device for use in grub? |
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| 04:08.43 | Morpheuss | CodeNinja, fdisk -l |
| 04:09.31 | liable | hda1 would be 0,0 hdb1 is 1,0 hdb2 is 1,1 etc |
| 04:09.31 | CodeNinja | uh? |
| 04:10.01 | CodeNinja | liable: _always_ ? |
| 04:10.03 | Linux-IRC | Hello, as i see for the package of fedora 11 ,it's name package-fc11.rpm for fedora 12,it's package-fc12.rpm, is there any policy like that for debian,are the package name different for different debian version ? |
| 04:10.08 | Linux-IRC | Or are package-name same for all version of debian ? are the package-name for debian5 and debian4 same ? |
| 04:10.39 | CodeNinja | liable: currently /dev/hdf is 0,0 |
| 04:10.48 | CodeNinja | only way I know that is from the grub config |
| 04:11.03 | liable | CodeNinja: if its in device.map, it can be different |
| 04:11.09 | liable | not sure how grub2 does it |
| 04:11.23 | CodeNinja | :\ |
| 04:12.21 | liable | jesus christ, i havent looked in /boot for a while. wtf is all this .mod shoit? |
| 04:13.07 | CodeNinja | lol |
| 04:13.11 | CodeNinja | crap |
| 04:13.18 | CodeNinja | I didn't leave room for swap |
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| 04:15.41 | battro | Linux-IRC: debian packages have dependancies |
| 04:15.45 | battro | too late :( |
| 04:16.08 | frostschutz | CodeNinja: grub doesn't see stuff in linux order, it sees them in bios order... hd0 is the disk you boot from so it depends on the boot order you configured in your bios |
| 04:16.46 | CodeNinja | frostschutz: ech... I have 5 drives in there, no idea which is which |
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| 04:17.40 | frostschutz | CodeNinja: I usually just put a boot partition and all kernels on hd0 for simplicity so I only need to specify hd0,0 in grub |
| 04:17.57 | frostschutz | CodeNinja: but you could always check out the disks directly in the grub shell |
| 04:19.00 | frostschutz | CodeNinja: it's not really possible to tell how grub will see your disks, you can check the device.map generated by grub but there is no guarantee that it will look this way when you actually boot |
| 04:19.27 | adb | !uuid |
| 04:19.27 | dpkg | [uuid] Universally Unique IDentifier, used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with `blkid'. In /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. Helps to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (libata transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
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| 04:24.48 | CodeNinja | adb: I considered that, but that doesn't work in a grub configuration |
| 04:25.02 | adb | it works |
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| 04:25.37 | CodeNinja | adb: yeah, for the kernel line |
| 04:26.31 | adb | !tell CodeNinja -about fixgrub |
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| 04:29.38 | battro | anybody know what happened to the mysql-server-5.1 package in squeeze/testing? |
| 04:30.00 | docgnome | i ate it |
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| 04:33.00 | adb | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.1/mysql-server_5.1.41-3_all.deb |
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| 04:33.21 | adb | battro, is here .. |
| 04:33.28 | adb | there , better |
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| 04:46.26 | CodeNinja | adb: that didn't help much, but I'm off for the night, I'll get the rest of it in the morning |
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| 04:46.52 | adb | ok, good luck |
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| 05:01.07 | afra | what does this mean: error while loading shared libraries /lib/libm.so.6 invalid ELF header ? |
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| 05:01.55 | Lagaro | afra: . . . it means that /lib/libm.so.6 is corrupted . . . |
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| 05:02.31 | Lagaro | afra: at least, that would be my guess . . . what have you done recently? is this spontaneous? |
| 05:02.38 | afra | Lagaro: If I'm in one linux kernel it's fine, if I'm in another one, it complains. Should I reinstall it? |
| 05:03.02 | afra | I can reboot and things are fine if I run the older linux kernel |
| 05:03.21 | Lagaro | afra: uhh . . . which two kernel versions are these? |
| 05:03.55 | afra | 2.6.26-1 and 2.6.26-2 |
| 05:04.37 | Lagaro | afra: uhh . . . weird . . . they are both the same arch, correct? |
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| 05:05.32 | afra | Lagaro: yes, both amd64 |
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| 05:06.02 | afra | how can i make sure the hard drive is okay - maybe that's it....put /forcecheck? |
| 05:06.05 | afra | brb |
| 05:06.12 | Lagaro | afra: the HD won't be the problem |
| 05:06.19 | Lagaro | afra: if it's only showing up in one kernel |
| 05:06.26 | afra | i reinstalled the package from apt-get |
| 05:06.33 | afra | so will reboot |
| 05:06.38 | Lagaro | afra: alright |
| 05:06.40 | afra | (reinstalled the kernel) |
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| 05:11.17 | Lagaro | afra: what happened? |
| 05:11.32 | afra | Lagaro, that fixed it, the reinstall. So weird. Well it's on a netbook type machine so perhaps when it did the first install it somehow didn't do it fully? |
| 05:11.47 | Lagaro | afra: hmm, possibly . . . |
| 05:11.56 | Lagaro | afra: but that makes no sense, since /lib/libm.so.6 is in libc . . . |
| 05:12.02 | Lagaro | afra: did you do a libc upgrade recently? |
| 05:12.36 | afra | Lagaro, do you think it is the linux image or modules? |
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| 05:12.58 | afra | Lagaro, I dont think I did but it still worked under the older kernel - so bizarre |
| 05:13.08 | afra | I just hope all my other packages are ok |
| 05:13.10 | Lagaro | afra: I have absolutely no idea what the problem was . . . ;) |
| 05:15.41 | Lagaro | afra: I wonder if it could have been a symlink that was re-overwritten when you re-upgraded the kernel . . . |
| 05:20.25 | afra | Lagaro, that may be it - I will reboot into the old kernel soon and see if it complains. If so, it's most likely that |
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| 05:23.28 | Lagaro | afra: indeed -- let us know what the result is . . . though I can't imagine there'd be that many changes between 2.6.26-1 and 2.6.26-2 . . . |
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| 05:24.42 | afra | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.02 | Lagaro | afra: well, I've not used ubuntu in a few years, but . . . I don't know. Ubuntu, IMO, is basically Debian, except with the non-free repos etc. pre-enabled, with a few additional addons to make it easier to use |
| 05:26.20 | Lagaro | afra: but those addons have a price; more memory usage -- it depends on what level you use your notebook at |
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| 05:27.22 | Lagaro | afra: I use the most minimalistic desktop I can get (about two steps up from straight X), and a lot of console work . . . so I stick with Debian and Arch linux . . . but Ubuntu/Kbuntu are probably better for the average user |
| 05:27.40 | afra | Lagaro, They have ubuntu remixed but debian is sweet but runs older apps - fine for servers (we're still running etch on it) |
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| 05:28.25 | Lagaro | afra: indeed -- use a mixed testing/unstable system for a desktop, IMO -- but Ubuntu has newer software I think, so it might be a better idea for a desktop environment . . . |
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| 05:28.51 | ndowens | hey using the netinstall cd, is there a way to disable wireless during install and only use ethernet |
| 05:28.51 | Lagaro | afra: I run unstable, and compile most of my software from source, so I'm not really the person to ask ;) |
| 05:29.26 | Lagaro | ndowens: which network adapter are you selecting as the primary network adapter during network setup? |
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| 05:29.43 | ndowens | eth0 |
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| 05:30.01 | Lagaro | ndowens: is it utilizing your wireless card, then? |
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| 05:30.31 | craigevil | afra: debian runs perfectly on netbooks like the asus eee and the aspire acer one, on my 701 debian sid boots to lxde in under 20 seconds |
| 05:30.39 | ndowens | yup and I use wpa2 and I want it to install from eth0 |
| 05:30.53 | Drunken | craigevil, have you gotten around the 1366x768 screen res issue on your aspire one? |
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| 05:31.23 | Lagaro | ndowens: so what other interfaces are available, then? . . . sorry, I'm a tad confused here ;) |
| 05:31.43 | ndowens | I have eth0 and wlan0, and during install it wants to use wlan0 and i dont want that |
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| 05:32.48 | Lagaro | ndowens: hmm . . . can you manually bring down wlan0 using one of the provided consoles, and then bring up eth0? |
| 05:33.05 | Lagaro | ndowens: e.g. ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 down ; ifconfig eth0 <static ip> up ? |
| 05:33.07 | ndowens | nope ifconfig doesnt exist according to a terminal |
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| 05:33.32 | Lagaro | ndowens: hang on, let me boot into a debian install in a VM . . . one moment |
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| 05:38.27 | Lagaro | ndowens: be another two moments, sorry . . . |
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| 05:39.26 | hagabaka | I installed a command line program which could extract common types of compressed files like tar.gz, zip, but now I forgot its name. anyone have an idea? |
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| 05:40.13 | Lagaro | hagabaka: try 'ls -c /usr/bin/'; that will tell you the most recently installed programs . . . or look in aptitude's list of packages? |
| 05:40.55 | Lagaro | hagabaka: but no, I don't have any idea of a program that does that . . . sorry :( |
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| 05:44.28 | hagabaka | is there a way to list the packages I installed in the last few days? |
| 05:44.51 | hagabaka | there are a lot of newly created programs because I recently upgraded kde packages |
| 05:44.55 | liable | hagabaka: look in your aptitude/dpkg log |
| 05:44.57 | Lagaro | hagabaka: as root, go tail /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed |
| 05:45.10 | Lagaro | that will give you a list of all the packages you've installed |
| 05:45.30 | Lagaro | increase the size of tail's output (tail -n <something>) to see more information |
| 05:45.55 | hagabaka | thank |
| 05:45.57 | hagabaka | *thanks |
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| 05:49.17 | craigevil | hagabaka: gzip, p7zip? |
| 05:49.33 | hagabaka | cool, it was "unp" |
| 05:49.42 | hagabaka | gzip supports zip etc? |
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| 05:50.59 | ndowens | sorry, the person that was trying to help me, did you figure out anything |
| 05:51.21 | Lagaro | ndowens: yea, actually |
| 05:51.39 | Lagaro | ndowens: you can modify /etc/network/interfaces to change your network connection if you need to |
| 05:52.04 | ndowens | Lagaro: ah thank you |
| 05:52.51 | Lagaro | ndowens: might work . . . |
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| 05:53.20 | Lagaro | ndowens: not sure how much it'll do, but you might be able to get something |
| 05:53.51 | Lagaro | ndowens: if all else fails, just install the base system (from the netinstall) and then set it up manually using ifconfig once you'll finished the installation |
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| 05:58.34 | hagabaka | where is a package's "reconfigure" script located? |
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| 06:01.58 | NoCode | Is 2.6.32 released yet for Debian, or is there a way to get the kernel easily, and install it? |
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| 06:04.42 | NoCode | Spring 2010 |
| 06:04.44 | NoCode | :( |
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| 06:06.28 | k-t | mirrors.kernel.org? |
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| 06:06.31 | battro | I have a laptop that can't boot from usb devices and it doesn't have a hard drive. I want to install debian to an external hard drive connected via USB and then use a boot cd to boot to that device. I have the boot cd, but the debian installer cd doesn't seem to be able to detect the usb hard drive. Any ideas? |
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| 06:07.08 | TomyLobo | hi |
| 06:07.15 | TomyLobo | why does kde depend on kdegames? |
| 06:07.43 | battro | are you installing kde-full? |
| 06:07.45 | TomyLobo | how do i remove some of those 2000 kde games without making aptitude complain? |
| 06:08.00 | battro | try kde-minimal or kde-standard instead |
| 06:08.32 | TomyLobo | the package is named "kde" |
| 06:08.35 | TomyLobo | not "kde-full" |
| 06:08.48 | battro | the package kde installs kde-full by default |
| 06:09.43 | battro | if you want something different you will have to install a different package (kde-minimal or kde-standard) http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde-minimal http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde-standard |
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| 06:14.18 | acu | what happen with squeeze - KDE cannot be upgraded - kde-minimal is not installable |
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| 06:16.00 | hoo-hah | any of you know whhy dovecot-imapd (and dovecot-common) are uninstallable in Squeez? |
| 06:16.06 | hoo-hah | e? |
| 06:16.53 | hoo-hah | repo has them both listed, but with aptitude, I'm force to keep them both at current state (uninstalled) |
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| 06:21.00 | k-t | gets attacked by an enormous P |
| 06:25.21 | hagabaka | should I need nspluginwrapper to use adobe flash plugin on i386? |
| 06:26.32 | wademurray | hagabaka: i don't think so. i thought it was only used on amd64 installs. |
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| 06:28.26 | hagabaka | oh |
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| 07:06.23 | croddy | hello, does anyone know of a way to configure initramfs-tools to set a particular console font at boot time? i'm all set with console-setup and kbd, but that runs ages after the cryptsetup prompts... i want to use a huge TerminusBold font right at the top of the boot process |
| 07:07.25 | croddy | i am using grub 2 and kernel 2.6.30 from squeeze |
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| 07:51.32 | aspWork | hi guys, i am trying to install the nvidia drivers on squeeze without success, m-a fails to build and so does the manual approach. What would be your recommendations? switch back to lenny, get a lenny kernel and move on from there, or? |
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| 07:53.43 | aspWork | or would i have better luck with sid? |
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| 07:56.57 | aspWork | anybody= |
| 07:59.07 | Lagaro | aspWork: are you using squeeze ATM? |
| 07:59.21 | Lagaro | aspWork: sorry, of course you are . . . |
| 07:59.43 | Lagaro | aspWork: it works properly on the lenny kernel? |
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| 08:00.33 | aspWork | Lagaro, dono |
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| 08:01.06 | aspWork | Lagaro, should i downgrade to the lenny kernel? |
| 08:02.09 | Lagaro | aspWork: no use if it doesn't work, aye? |
| 08:02.27 | aspWork | Lagaro, dono if it works |
| 08:02.29 | Derak24 | anyone have vloopback working on squeeze? |
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| 08:03.47 | Lagaro | aspWork: hmm . . . well . . . what errors does m-a give you? |
| 08:04.00 | aspWork | Lagaro, build fails with 20ish errors |
| 08:04.20 | aspWork | seems that there is a precompiled module for 2.6.26-2, ill just downgrade to that then |
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| 08:06.08 | Lagaro | aspWork: alright . . . |
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| 08:06.44 | aspWork | hmm, that kernel is not available in squezze |
| 08:07.28 | Lagaro | aspWork: you could get it from packages.debian.org |
| 08:07.40 | aspWork | right, isn't that bound to cause problems? |
| 08:07.43 | Lagaro | aspWork: or you could try a backported kernel . . . |
| 08:07.47 | Lagaro | aspWork: not really |
| 08:08.02 | Lagaro | aspWork: you just will have an older kernel is all ;) |
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| 08:08.27 | aspWork | perhaps i should just use the offical nvidia drivers instead |
| 08:08.33 | aspWork | just wanted to do it "the debian way" |
| 08:09.00 | Lagaro | aspWork: heh, sometimes the debian way doesn't work :) |
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| 08:10.45 | Lagaro | well, goodnight everyone |
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| 08:40.59 | niklaswe | what happening guys? |
| 08:41.20 | liable | fuck all by the looks of it.. |
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| 08:41.57 | aixenv | hey guys whats the best method to get ext4 working within 2.6.26-2(lenny) ? |
| 08:42.16 | aixenv | i see there's a 'ext4dev' module but not sure where to get it |
| 08:42.22 | aixenv | not in apt-get and dont seee it on my system |
| 08:42.28 | liable | aixenv: you really dont want to do it |
| 08:42.42 | aixenv | yes i do |
| 08:42.48 | liable | basically you would have to reinstall anyway |
| 08:43.10 | aixenv | i get get that 2.6.30 custom iso to install on this server for whatever reason |
| 08:43.15 | liable | well, that may be wrong, i havent checked if tune2fs can do it on the fly, but i highly doubt it |
| 08:43.23 | aixenv | i already ran that |
| 08:43.25 | aixenv | but i get |
| 08:43.33 | aixenv | # mount data |
| 08:43.33 | aixenv | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4' |
| 08:43.37 | liable | why do you want to? |
| 08:43.42 | aixenv | cuz i like ext4 |
| 08:43.49 | liable | the kernel you are running doesnt support it |
| 08:43.49 | aixenv | better than reiser and xfs |
| 08:43.54 | liable | why do you like it? |
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| 08:44.22 | aixenv | seems faster, and in my experience xfs is problematic and reiser is basically dead since the dude off'd his fam |
| 08:44.35 | huttsonn | is libdirac-encoder0 broken? it is preventing me from installing mplayer. |
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| 08:45.01 | aixenv | huttsonn i always use the debian multimedia apt-get sourceslists for multimedia stuff or build from svn/source |
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| 08:45.25 | huttsonn | aixenv: i use that. |
| 08:45.26 | aixenv | the pkg'd debian multipmedia stuff is severely broken/limited/not functional |
| 08:45.36 | liable | huh? |
| 08:45.40 | aixenv | ffmpeg/mplayer at least |
| 08:46.16 | aixenv | go say you use debians ffmpeg in #ffmpeg and see the lecture you get |
| 08:46.32 | huttsonn | i have 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main" in sources.list. |
| 08:46.46 | liable | go say you use debian kernels and have a bug and say it in #kernel |
| 08:46.46 | aixenv | debian and its 3rd party licencising issues/thoughts/practices has gimped ffmpeg/mplayer and a few other multimedia pkgs |
| 08:46.48 | liable | ... |
| 08:47.37 | aixenv | huttsonn, i use etch or lenny, not testing so i couldnt help you out there, if you're trying to get bleeding edge for mplayer/ffmpeg/libav* just build from source and get the latest co's from svn |
| 08:48.40 | huttsonn | liable: do you use mplayer with 'testing'? |
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| 08:48.53 | aixenv | hrm maybe i should try using sid for this server to get ext4 |
| 08:49.44 | aixenv | maybe i can try installing the 2.6.30-1 kernel |
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| 08:50.40 | huttsonn | that's another problem i have. kernel. when i upgrade, it says the udev package requires a higher kernel. |
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| 08:50.57 | huttsonn | is kernel not upgraded auto? |
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| 08:51.39 | niklaswe | does someone has problem with mplayer.. i got this error Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 731: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!.. does someone know when this bug will be fixed ? |
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| 08:52.57 | liable | huttsonn: nope |
| 08:53.10 | liable | niklaswe: you can use xine or vlc in the mean time |
| 08:53.15 | Keloran | whats the package name for the ipkg-installer ? (or have i just answered my own question) |
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| 08:54.05 | aixenv | what kernel is shippin with sid? |
| 08:54.07 | niklaswe | liable: thatś true, but i just wondering.. if someone know here. :) |
| 08:54.57 | liable | 2.6.31 |
| 08:55.11 | aixenv | it is semi stable with not much software installed? |
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| 08:55.27 | aixenv | hows testing been going? |
| 08:55.29 | liable | not really. grub broke the other day.. |
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| 08:56.01 | aixenv | ok ill see if i can get this kernel on my other box over to this one |
| 08:56.53 | liable | eh, sid has 32 now it seems |
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| 08:58.21 | aixenv | same damn hardware no clue why that custom iso wont work |
| 08:58.36 | aixenv | the cd would just hang on detect disks, same damn raid controller too and same raid config |
| 08:58.47 | aixenv | even tried burnin' another iso |
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| 09:01.33 | aixenv | bah there's no copy in the archives |
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| 09:08.37 | aixenv | hah that's hilarious |
| 09:08.49 | valdyn | aixenv: why are you trying sid installers? |
| 09:08.50 | aixenv | i cant believe that worked |
| 09:09.09 | valdyn | aixenv: or testing installers? |
| 09:09.11 | aixenv | im not really, i just want ext4 to work, i just did something kinda crazy and it seems to ahe worked lol |
| 09:09.23 | aixenv | i have a 2.6.26-2 kernel on lenny |
| 09:09.33 | valdyn | aixenv: backports.org has 2.6.30 |
| 09:09.40 | aixenv | i have some identical boxes running the 2.6.30 custom iso you guys advertise for ext4/certain raid cards |
| 09:09.50 | aixenv | check out what i just did and it worked |
| 09:10.36 | aixenv | on the crappy kernel box i mv'd boot to boot.old and rsync'd another box with that 2.6.30 kernel 's files and then rysnc'd the /lib/firmware/* and lib/modules/* and rebooted and sure enough it came up no problem, *kinda surprised* |
| 09:11.04 | aixenv | didnt expect that to work |
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| 09:11.36 | nsadmin | aixenv: those kernels were controlled by the installed debian package db on your machine |
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| 09:11.53 | aixenv | dif machine |
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| 09:12.10 | aixenv | this box for whatever reason would freeze on detect disks for the 2.6.30 iso we had |
| 09:12.22 | nsadmin | glad it worked and all... but at some point you should work that out |
| 09:12.22 | aixenv | so i backtrakced and used our slipstream lenny iso |
| 09:12.35 | aixenv | nsadmin: agreed |
| 09:12.45 | aixenv | ill probably rebiuld it tomorrow and use the backports kernel |
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| 09:12.51 | aixenv | i was just trying it for shits and giggles |
| 09:13.14 | aixenv | wish that iso you guys advertise wasnt so picky about our dell hardware |
| 09:13.27 | aixenv | no clue why it's so tempermental works sometimes, hangs others, works other times, locks up others |
| 09:14.44 | aixenv | i really expected that to end in kernel panic, i guess that just goes to show how similar those boxes are |
| 09:14.57 | aixenv | which makes the fact teh cd would lockup even stranger |
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| 09:15.42 | Janni | Hello. |
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| 09:16.18 | aixenv | tihs one guys? |
| 09:16.18 | Janni | Is there a meta-package that depends on all the packages with priority=important? |
| 09:16.22 | aixenv | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 09:16.44 | Janni | That would be really useful |
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| 09:17.26 | liable | hmm, my DC adapter for my thinkpad is buzzing.. that can't be good |
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| 09:21.46 | chrisw | hi all, if no mta is running, where does output from cronjobs go? |
| 09:23.42 | aixenv | k im testing the bpo kernel |
| 09:23.50 | aixenv | so it's at least installede via apt-get |
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| 09:26.02 | aixenv | sweet backup |
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| 09:26.25 | BeBeLuShuL | `lo |
| 09:26.34 | BeBeLuShuL | i am installing pgtcl1.5 |
| 09:26.38 | BeBeLuShuL | and i got this error |
| 09:26.48 | BeBeLuShuL | checking system version (for dynamic loading)... ./configure: line 10049: syntax error near unexpected token `||' |
| 09:26.48 | BeBeLuShuL | ./configure: line 10049: ` || test ! -s conftest.err'' |
| 09:26.59 | BeBeLuShuL | got any ideea ? |
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| 09:48.45 | anodesni | Hi, I installed Debian lenny, added the multimedia repository and installed "flashplayer-mozilla" package, but youtube, e.g., still shows swfdec player and not adobe's flashplayer. How do I fix this? |
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| 09:55.27 | SoulSeller | anodesni, aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 09:56.06 | SoulSeller | You can also try google chrome it seems to be lightweight (than firefox) for me. |
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| 09:56.39 | anodesni | SoulSeller: there is no such package |
| 09:57.09 | SoulSeller | Add the following: unstable main contrib non-free in your sources.list |
| 09:57.31 | petemc | erm |
| 09:57.33 | anodesni | I installed the flashplayer from adobe's site |
| 09:57.38 | anodesni | it's working fine |
| 09:58.15 | SoulSeller | Then there's no problem? :) |
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| 09:58.44 | anodesni | SoulSeller: No. I'm sorry to bother you, I just wanted to use the repository for it |
| 09:58.54 | jelly | anodesni: hopefully not the .deb file for Ubuntu, because it'll likely break down if you ever try removing it |
| 09:59.08 | anodesni | jelly: no the tar.gz file |
| 09:59.19 | jelly | anodesni: all righty then |
| 09:59.23 | simonrvn | SoulSeller: chrome is NOT in debian, nor is it in non-free |
| 09:59.39 | simonrvn | SoulSeller: oh nm, i misunderstood |
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| 10:00.23 | SoulSeller | deb http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 10:00.32 | SoulSeller | Just an example. |
| 10:00.43 | themill | wonders why SoulSeller is telling people to use sid |
| 10:00.56 | SoulSeller | Ok, sorry about that. :) |
| 10:01.02 | SoulSeller | I just gave an example. |
| 10:01.54 | anodesni | SoulSeller: I prefer not to use unstable, the flasplayer from debian-multimedia repo doesn't seem to be working |
| 10:02.04 | jelly | SoulSeller, "Add the following: unstable main contrib non-free in your sources.list" doesn't sound like an example (or a correct approach) |
| 10:02.57 | anodesni | jelly: c'mon, SoulSeller just wanted to help |
| 10:03.47 | jelly | I know! |
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| 10:11.39 | nsadmin | and selling souls helps! |
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| 10:11.42 | nsadmin | a lot! |
| 10:11.58 | SoulSeller | Oh... |
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| 10:12.16 | groulder_ | if i want to know what package a file is in |
| 10:12.19 | groulder_ | how would i search for it |
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| 10:12.32 | jelly | groulder_: installed: dpkg -S /path/to/file |
| 10:12.36 | santiago | hello folks |
| 10:12.43 | nsadmin | groulder_: you could install apt-file |
| 10:13.00 | Kaonashi | Hello, I am trying to use xmodmap to map Control+L to Lambda but I can't figure out how to do it |
| 10:13.02 | jelly | groulder_: if it's not installed, /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 10:13.21 | santiago | is there a way to stop auth.log being spammed by getty[23651]: ttyS0: ioctl: Input/output error? i know that it comes from serial console connection attempts set in inittab but i would like it to at least slow down... |
| 10:13.23 | groulder_ | thank you |
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| 10:13.47 | jelly | santiago: turn off getty on ttyS0? |
| 10:13.52 | santiago | (actually it does spam 1 i/o error each 10 secs) |
| 10:13.57 | nsadmin | I'm pretty sure both of those approaches cover files that are stored in the package files, not files that are generated either by packaging or by running an executable in the package |
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| 10:14.15 | santiago | jelly yes it worked.. but i'm afraid that my dedicated machine might need that for rescue mode or OS reinstall etc? |
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| 10:15.15 | santiago | jelly couldn't it just try to connect every 3 mins instead of 10 secs? |
| 10:15.20 | jelly | santiago: ask your provider wth is your serial connected to and have they seen it before? |
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| 10:15.28 | jelly | santiago: "it"? |
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| 10:15.39 | groulder_ | ~# apt-file update |
| 10:15.40 | groulder_ | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
| 10:16.10 | jelly | santiago: I don't know if the error is caused by getty or by ttyS0 or by the other side misbehaving. |
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| 10:16.41 | santiago | jelly indeed |
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| 10:17.34 | groulder_ | anyone help me with that apt-file error |
| 10:17.37 | groulder_ | ie. where is that file now |
| 10:18.15 | jelly | groulder_: if you got the regular mirror files updated, I'd say just ignore it |
| 10:18.22 | groulder_ | ok |
| 10:18.23 | groulder_ | thanks |
| 10:18.29 | santiago | jelly ok thank you very much - i will contact my hoster to find out wtf |
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| 10:40.29 | vimpulse | hi all. What's the full path to killall(1) on Debian? |
| 10:40.58 | iceroot | vimpulse: which killall |
| 10:41.17 | Teaboy`work | type killall |
| 10:41.33 | OpenTokix | killall: /usr/bin/killall /usr/share/man/man1/killall.1.gz |
| 10:41.44 | vimpulse | OpenTokix: thank you. |
| 10:42.13 | vimpulse | iceroot: Teaboy`work: my Linux PC is taken apart into pieces right now, but I am writing a message to a mailing list that requires me to know the answer. |
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| 10:47.04 | jelly | vimpulse: pkill is probably better to use if you plan on using any SYSV-like unix systems, where killall does something very different |
| 10:47.26 | themill | jelly: don't spoil the fun! |
| 10:47.38 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 10:47.54 | vimpulse | jelly: I thought of that but didn't act on it, it's too late at night here. (5:47a). I posted my message as-is. Is killall(1) in /usr/bin on Solaris or HP-UX? |
| 10:48.20 | jelly | I've had enough of newbie admins kill off Solaris boxen :-) |
| 10:48.40 | themill | sets greycat on vimpulse |
| 10:49.03 | jelly | vimpulse: Solaris has it in /usr/sbin, but it's still in root's default PATH |
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| 10:49.26 | jelly | and it's definitely not (1) :-) |
| 10:49.48 | vimpulse | ok. g'night all, and thank you. |
| 10:49.57 | cretsiah | has any1 else had a problem with the debian dvd bit torrent ?? |
| 10:50.30 | simonrvn | !any1 |
| 10:50.30 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 10:50.45 | vimpulse | !linuxHelpAsk |
| 10:50.46 | jelly | well it's !any1 else |
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| 10:52.33 | jelly | cretsiah: ask the real question |
| 10:52.36 | jelly | !anyone |
| 10:52.36 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 10:53.29 | cretsiah | i did ask the real question i had 4 dvd iso's out of the 6 that didnt download properly im now out of bandwidth to download again |
| 10:54.00 | Teaboy`work | !sausage |
| 10:54.00 | dpkg | it has been said that sausage is ground up animal parts stuffed into a sphincter, grilled so that you don't gag |
| 10:54.12 | Teaboy`work | dpkg is the best bot ever |
| 10:54.12 | dpkg | Teaboy`work: wish i knew |
| 10:54.21 | simonrvn | you only need the first one to install. you don't even need that much to do install. |
| 10:54.26 | petemc | what at stupid factoid |
| 10:54.30 | simonrvn | do the* |
| 10:55.03 | babilen | !tell cretsiah -about netinst |
| 10:55.11 | cretsiah | i would have used the net-installer if i could get tit to work over wifi (wpa-psk security) |
| 10:55.17 | simonrvn | petemc: now removed ;) |
| 10:55.52 | cretsiah | i f i was using a wired connection i wouldnt even be here |
| 10:55.54 | petemc | :) |
| 10:56.11 | themill | cretsiah: downloading 6 DVDs doesn't really help with fixing your wifi though, does it? |
| 10:56.32 | simonrvn | nope |
| 10:56.33 | cretsiah | no but supposedly all i need is on those 6 dvd's |
| 10:56.37 | babilen | cretsiah: You can install with the first DVD just fine. |
| 10:56.47 | cretsiah | the 6th 1 was updates |
| 10:57.10 | themill | cretsiah: you probably need something from non-free (firmware or the like) which isn't on any of the DVDs |
| 10:57.10 | simonrvn | sighs |
| 10:57.11 | babilen | cretsiah: After that you can configure your wireless and install/upgrade from the mirrors |
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| 10:58.12 | cretsiah | um no i couldnt get the dvd's to burn .... supposedly 4.4gig each disc but no info in them cmos mesge = missing operating system |
| 10:58.17 | babilen | cretsiah: You might have to install a non-free firmware though, which you can just download beforehand/on another computer and install. |
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| 10:58.43 | themill | cretsiah: did you check the md5sum of the dvd image before you burnt it? |
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| 10:59.16 | cretsiah | supposedlly correct, burned @ 4 and 5 speed (faster speed first) |
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| 11:00.58 | cretsiah | i will wait 30 days till i get my bandwidth back again see yas later |
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| 11:03.34 | Pupeno | What does mv do when moving across filesystems and failing to cp everything? Does it delete anything from the source? |
| 11:04.06 | petemc | no, it copies but doesnt unlink |
| 11:05.05 | Pupeno | petemc: so it is safe to delete the destination and try again? |
| 11:05.44 | petemc | erm, i guess - you think it will work this time? whats changed? |
| 11:05.57 | Pupeno | petemc: I'm adding sudo :) |
| 11:06.14 | petemc | oh, right |
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| 11:06.32 | Pupeno | but whether it works or doesn't this time it should affect the safeness of deleting the destination and trying again. |
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| 11:11.52 | Wulf_ | Hello! |
| 11:13.12 | Wulf_ | valgrind complains about "Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)" in /lib/ld-2.10.2.so; is that a known bug? |
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| 11:16.32 | jelly | is that a bug at all? |
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| 11:17.08 | Wulf_ | at least it's annoying |
| 11:17.25 | Wulf_ | ah, installing new valgrind fixed it. never mind |
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| 11:21.57 | groulder | on debian |
| 11:22.10 | groulder | what package would i install to check the md5 hash of a file |
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| 11:23.52 | streuner_ | groulder: md5sum? |
| 11:23.57 | babilen | groulder: It's "md5sum" in the coreutils package (which shoule be installed) |
| 11:24.11 | streuner_ | !find md5sum |
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| 11:24.37 | groulder | thanks |
| 11:24.41 | babilen | np |
| 11:25.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'md5sum' (7 of 50): (/usr/bin/kmk_md5sum) in devel/kbuild ;; (/usr/bin/mymd5sum) in electronics/atlc ;; (/usr/bin/dh_md5sums) in devel/debhelper ;; (/usr/bin/ocaml-md5sums) in ocaml/dh-ocaml ;; (/usr/share/lwat/config.md5sum) in misc/lwat ;; (/usr/lib/samtools/md5sum-lite) in science/samtools ;; (/usr/share/bind9/bind9-default.md5sum) in net/bind9. |
| 11:26.30 | streuner_ | Package: coreutils |
| 11:26.30 | streuner_ | Essential: yes |
| 11:26.30 | streuner_ | Priority: required |
| 11:26.48 | streuner_ | Where the hell is debhelper? |
| 11:27.26 | wertik|wrk | heh |
| 11:27.30 | babilen | went to the movies with ravenbird |
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| 11:28.22 | streuner_ | wertik|wrk: debhelper is a bot which make sure, that somebody doesnt paste much crap here ;-) |
| 11:28.41 | streuner_ | like me 5 minutes ago :-P |
| 11:28.54 | wertik|wrk | oh ) |
| 11:28.57 | streuner_ | yo |
| 11:29.09 | wertik|wrk | I can't know about it ) |
| 11:29.23 | mango_ | hello, to get vbox guests to talk to each other and to the host I have used a scrip to add taps (bridges) to the network interface...but I run the script many times and ended up having too many. How could I remove all of the them please? thanks...I am running debian lenny |
| 11:29.49 | wertik|wrk | I thinking what debhelper it is a man) |
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| 11:32.47 | EXp1r3d | mango , why did you create bridges manually ? in recent versions of vbox that work is done automatically via the prog itself... |
| 11:34.09 | mango_ | EXp1r3d: because I could not modify VBox to give the same subnet as the machine host |
| 11:34.25 | EXp1r3d | mango_, which version of vbox ? |
| 11:34.26 | DasEi | mango: check your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:35.15 | mango_ | EXp1r3d: version 3.0.12 |
| 11:35.58 | EXp1r3d | mango_, hmmm u can use the bridged feature of vbox , that will enable u to bridge your physical nic with your vbox's nic in just one click |
| 11:37.03 | EXp1r3d | with no prior knowledge of digging into complex issues , and the result will be your guests will be in the same subnet as within your host |
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| 11:37.37 | mango_ | DasEi: oooh...I looks like it has been removed after I restarted the system... it is not there |
| 11:38.13 | mango_ | EXp1r3d: Thanks a lot I will try that....Thanks every one...keep on |
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| 11:39.28 | EXp1r3d | mango_, how did you create your bridges ? like brctl addif br0 eth0 ? |
| 11:40.23 | greenmang0 | says hi to mango_ |
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| 11:41.15 | mango_ | Exp1r3d: I have used the following : http://www.savvyadmin.com/virtualbox-host-interface-networking-with-nat/ |
| 11:41.56 | mango_ | Exp1r3d: it worked |
| 11:41.57 | mango_ | thanks |
| 11:42.41 | EXp1r3d | mango_, np |
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| 11:49.07 | winther | hi |
| 11:49.16 | winther | I want to overwrite the home directory path for all users that are imported by nis. The problem ist that I do not know how to substitute a variable with the username. I was thinking about something like +:KRB5::::/home/$user:/bin/bash where $user should be substituted by the username |
| 11:49.26 | winther | does anybody know how to implement this? |
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| 11:53.53 | battro | Is there a way to boot from a usb device on a computer that doesn't support booting from usb devices? There is something for Slax but I'd prefer to use a full install of debian which I have put on an external USB hard drive |
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| 11:59.53 | DasEi | battro: could try super grub disk, then boot from cd |
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| 12:00.34 | DasEi | or better start |
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| 12:04.23 | xNinja | what is the highest compression we can get for a .log file ? |
| 12:04.40 | xNinja | which util to use or mix |
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| 12:07.27 | ethanol | http://www.maximumcompression.com/data/log.php |
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| 12:07.50 | ethanol | no idea how old that data is though |
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| 12:10.57 | kfiggle | hello guys - which install-iso do i have to take to install an 64bit debian lenny onto a intelxeon ? |
| 12:11.04 | kfiggle | i see only i386 and amd64 isos, no x86_64 isos ? |
| 12:11.32 | kfiggle | can anyone point me to the solution ? |
| 12:11.38 | maligor | amd64 |
| 12:11.41 | kfiggle | or is there no 64bit debian ? |
| 12:11.58 | ethanol | there is |
| 12:12.02 | ethanol | what maligor said |
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| 12:12.35 | kfiggle | ah ok, thanks, its a little confusind to see the dedicated AMD-name in the iso |
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| 12:12.43 | maligor | intel has it's name on i386 |
| 12:13.13 | petemc | or a letter of its name anyway.. |
| 12:13.28 | maligor | (and in ia64) |
| 12:14.39 | maligor | kfiggle, well, the confusion is understandable unless you know the history of the arch (and debian's strange architecture naming quirks) |
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| 12:38.23 | mythomaniac | i'm trying to get trying to get a menu entry to work: "xterm -e su -c aptitude" but it seems it just asks me for the root password and xterm then shuts down... what am i doing wrong? |
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| 12:40.50 | petemc | !tell mythomaniac about root x |
| 12:42.17 | mythomaniac | petemc, i'm not sure how that help... i'm not using x as root... |
| 12:42.27 | petemc | read it |
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| 12:43.53 | mythomaniac | petemc, i did but i don't understand how this fits with the problem i am having, to noob i guess, but i'm trying to spawn aptitude from xterm while also giving it root privileges in a menu entry in a window manager... |
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| 12:46.25 | Holborn | mythomaniac: try ... xterm -e su -l -c aptitude blabla ... |
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| 12:48.41 | jelly | also a nice -T perhaps! |
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| 12:49.04 | fir3 | hi |
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| 12:49.26 | mythomaniac | Holborn, my dear man you done it! |
| 12:49.31 | misterkrep | hello : |
| 12:49.32 | mythomaniac | Holborn, rock on |
| 12:49.46 | mythomaniac | Holborn, thank you, and now i know another command for xterm ;) |
| 12:49.48 | fir3 | could someone help me with this error? my network card gets an ip via dhclient, but when i try a ping i get this error: "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" |
| 12:50.01 | misterkrep | everyone : ever instal nginx |
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| 12:52.43 | misterkrep | everyone : ever instal nginx? |
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| 12:54.09 | skeletal | Guys, i can't access my "New Orkut Interface" with my Linux browsers. it is a bug? why dont work? |
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| 12:56.15 | OpenTokix | =) |
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| 12:56.39 | skeletal | nobody have orkut here? |
| 12:56.48 | Crypticfortune | anyone familiar with Core i7 temperature sensors know if the 2.6.30 kernel has support for them? |
| 12:57.00 | Crypticfortune | skeletal: i remember orkut....i suppose my account still exists... |
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| 12:57.47 | fir3 | alright, i fixed it with iptables -F ; iptables -P INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD ACCEPT |
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| 12:57.57 | nima0102 | hi |
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| 12:58.19 | nima0102 | what's package name of glibc on squeeze?? |
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| 12:58.26 | maligor | Crypticfortune, if it does, it'd probably be in coretemp |
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| 12:59.15 | nima0102 | dpkg glibc |
| 12:59.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, glibc is at http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/index.old.html (dead), http://pessoal.sercomtel.com.br/assis/linux/glibc-2.HOWTO/ (archive). GNU libc, also known as libc6 in the Linux universe. glibc is the most fundamental piece of software on your machine, basically every piece of software you have installed other than your kernel depends on it, so upgrading it is essentially upgrading your entire system/debian ... |
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| 13:04.53 | Crypticfortune | maligor: hmm, looks like Core i7 temp reporting was likely added in 2.6.29. probably no harm in upgrading i suppose.... *crosses fingers* |
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| 13:06.48 | Innocentus | hi all |
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| 13:06.55 | Innocentus | I have found some funny wallpaper :) |
| 13:07.08 | jelly | Innocentus: good for you! |
| 13:07.28 | Innocentus | LOL: http://eelco.is.a.rootboy.net/images/debian.png |
| 13:07.40 | Innocentus | altough I am a fan of it I still like that wallpaper :) |
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| 13:08.49 | jelly | Innocentus: you'll want to share this stuff with #debian-offtopic in the future! We try do to support and only support in here, and assorted funnies over there |
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| 13:10.42 | jandro | Yesterday I made a clean install of amd64 debian in my laptop, and right after I updated to squeeze. I managed to update the most of the system, but I have a lots of broken packages, i.e. gnome-desktop-environment or openoffice.org won't install, depends on gnome-power-manager and totem-plugins. Tried to install those but the also depend on libraries that won't install. I've done this several times in the past and never had any major trouble. |
| 13:12.08 | zerohero | jandro: there's some conflict between current nautilus, gnome-session and gnome-desktop-environment in testing |
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| 13:13.18 | Crypticfortune | zerohero: oh, that might explain why my nautilus preferences won't open... =/ |
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| 13:13.41 | Crypticfortune | (sort of...) |
| 13:13.48 | zerohero | crashes for me |
| 13:13.57 | Innocentus | when will be debian squeeze outa? :) |
| 13:14.00 | zerohero | and has for quite some time |
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| 13:14.12 | zerohero | this new conflict is from yesterday, or so |
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| 13:15.30 | jandro | zerohero: so if I leave the broken squeeze as it is now (still does what I need), will it get fixed on its own with future apt-get upgrade's? |
| 13:15.49 | zerohero | jandro: i would expect it to |
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| 13:16.27 | jandro | zerohero: ok, thank you. |
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| 13:16.34 | zerohero | jandro: tho i haven't upgraded nautilus or gnome-session myself, because of them wanting to uninstall lots of things |
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| 13:18.02 | badcloud | which file determines which desktop manager/environment will load when issueing the 'startx' command? |
| 13:18.02 | jandro | zerohero: allright, I'll opt then for making an step by step upgrade rather than going for the big gnome metapackages |
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| 13:19.33 | abysed | ~/.xinitrc i believe |
| 13:19.45 | jandro | zerohero: I read on some forums people using aptitude safe-upgrade's. Do you reckon it is better than the apt-way? |
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| 13:20.21 | badcloud | thanks, abysed |
| 13:20.25 | pzn | I need a hint about the lighter windows manager for lenny. will use in an old notebook with 64Mb RAM. |
| 13:20.31 | abysed | ;-) |
| 13:20.32 | zerohero | jandro: no idea, actually, i'm still using apt-get when i do this |
| 13:20.40 | zerohero | jandro: mostly i just use synaptic tho |
| 13:21.28 | Holborn | badcloud: is /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager |
| 13:21.29 | OpenTokix | pzn: http://xwinman.org/others.php |
| 13:21.38 | jandro | Crypticfortune: zerohero: about the nautilus preferences, so far I'm doing it under gconf-editor in case you don't know |
| 13:22.01 | OpenTokix | pzn: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/ |
| 13:22.12 | babilen | pzn: dwm - http://dwm.suckless.org/ |
| 13:22.21 | zerohero | jandro: ah, i should have thought of that :) |
| 13:22.28 | jelly | !start a wm war |
| 13:22.29 | dpkg | olwm makes me vomit! |
| 13:23.10 | jandro | zerohero: thanks for your help, I'm gonna get to it now. |
| 13:23.24 | zerohero | jandro: well, hope it works out for you |
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| 13:25.19 | pzn | OpenTokix, babilen: thanks for the hints. I'll take a look at them |
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| 13:26.35 | badcloud | Holborn, I don't have x-session-manager in my '/etc/alternatives/' folder |
| 13:27.15 | Holborn | do a link then :-) |
| 13:27.20 | babilen | pzn: there are plenty of others. Wikipedia has a list of these (mostly) tiling window managers. I guess dwm is one of the slimmest (that is actually useful) |
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| 13:27.41 | badcloud | from /bin/filename you mean? |
| 13:28.06 | Holborn | yes |
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| 13:28.28 | EagleScreen | hi |
| 13:28.31 | badcloud | thanks |
| 13:28.48 | nsadmin | really? someone doesn't want gnome or kde? |
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| 13:29.27 | babilen | nsadmin: </sarcasm> sure, why not? |
| 13:29.30 | EagleScreen | I need something called lconvert, it is a tool to translate application to other languages, anyone know how can I obtain it in Debian? |
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| 13:30.13 | nsadmin | EagleScreen: the results of your searches indicates what? |
| 13:30.32 | badcloud | Holdborn, it's mostly gibberish |
| 13:30.37 | badcloud | *Holborn |
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| 13:31.05 | EagleScreen | they indicates that there sent any package called lconvert in Debian, andthere isn't an official website of it in the Gogole search of lconvert |
| 13:31.39 | Holborn | badcloud: what do you meant? |
| 13:31.46 | Innocentus | I need an mda which transfers everything to a single specific ip-address |
| 13:31.49 | badcloud | I 'cat'-ed it |
| 13:31.58 | nsadmin | EagleScreen: what about source? |
| 13:32.05 | badcloud | not much of it is coherent |
| 13:32.11 | badcloud | english anyways |
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| 13:32.41 | EagleScreen | nsadmin: what do you mean? |
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| 13:33.11 | Titan8990_ | Innocentus, MDAs accept mail for *local* delivery. you want a MTA that forwards to smarthost or something |
| 13:33.11 | badcloud | meaning most of it is just unrecognizable characters |
| 13:33.25 | EagleScreen | oh SourceForge? |
| 13:33.34 | EagleScreen | searching in |
| 13:33.49 | badcloud | nm, I gotta go force myself to be productive today |
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| 13:33.53 | badcloud | thanks for the help |
| 13:34.21 | Titan8990_ | badcloud, was it a binary? |
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| 13:35.26 | badcloud | I'm guessing it was, but I expected there to be some commented out text I could find useful |
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| 13:35.50 | badcloud | all I'm trying to figure out is how to load a different desktop env. other than the default installed |
| 13:36.21 | Titan8990_ | badcloud, you won't find comments in compiled binaries.... `hexdump -C <binary>` |
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| 13:36.21 | nsadmin | I'm not finding it either... so, dunno how to obtain |
| 13:36.21 | Holborn | badclud ... in /etc/alternatives do a link ... -> ln -s /usr/bin/blablabla x-session-manager |
| 13:36.22 | Titan8990_ | badcloud, .xinitrc would be the easy way |
| 13:36.42 | badcloud | I don't wanna change my current install |
| 13:36.52 | badcloud | I just want to be able to log out of one desktop session |
| 13:37.05 | badcloud | and start a clean one using a different DE |
| 13:37.26 | Titan8990_ | badcloud, if your using a display manager, it is likely handled by that |
| 13:38.18 | badcloud | I'm obviously not knowledgable enough to do so. I'll read up. thanks, guys |
| 13:38.19 | Holborn | badcloud: you asked using startx .... use alternatives is a good way if you start xorg with startx |
| 13:38.26 | Crypticfortune | badcloud: if you're using one of the normal gdm themes, check out that little session button down there at the bottom. very handy ;) |
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| 13:38.47 | badcloud | :) |
| 13:38.51 | badcloud | I'm off |
| 13:38.52 | badcloud | thanks again |
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| 13:41.45 | EagleScreen | /usr/bin/lconvert is in qt4-dev-tools package |
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| 13:42.11 | wp | does someone know a windows client for X ? |
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| 13:42.48 | EagleScreen | wp what? |
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| 13:43.50 | wp | EagleScreen: i want to take over my Xserver with a windows X client :) |
| 13:44.10 | Crypticfortune | wp: that still doesn't make sense. what are you trying to do? |
| 13:44.19 | nsadmin | wp try cygwin |
| 13:44.23 | wp | i want to connect a windows workstation to X11 server |
| 13:44.41 | Innocentus_ | xming !! |
| 13:44.48 | Innocentus_ | xming is your friend |
| 13:44.55 | Crypticfortune | ahhh, then yeah, what nsadmin said. good job parsing that ;) |
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| 13:45.44 | wp | ah thanks!! :) |
| 13:45.48 | nsadmin | does it have to stay windows? |
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| 13:47.16 | nsadmin | xming is probably similar... cygwin does install a lot of stuff on your box |
| 13:47.21 | jelly | !xming |
| 13:47.23 | dpkg | somebody said xming was a free X server for MS Windows, http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming; no cygwin dependency like Cygwin/X |
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| 13:47.35 | Innocentus_ | xming doesn't need cygwin |
| 13:47.43 | Innocentus_ | however - it could become a real cpu hog |
| 13:47.45 | jelly | Innocentus++ |
| 13:47.49 | Innocentus_ | np :) |
| 13:47.53 | Crypticfortune | Innocentus_: does xming do anything better than cygwin's xorg stuff? or just "not rely on cygwin?" |
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| 13:48.03 | Innocentus_ | it is more slick |
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| 13:48.09 | jelly | Crypticfortune: it's basically a different build. |
| 13:48.20 | Innocentus_ | it has got a conformtable setup routine, gui, tray |
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| 13:48.31 | nsadmin | so it acts like a banana peel when you drop it on the ground? |
| 13:48.31 | Innocentus_ | I like it more than a gigantic cygwin hog |
| 13:48.39 | Innocentus_ | how? |
| 13:48.46 | nsadmin | slick |
| 13:48.46 | jelly | just luvz having to set up DISPLAY and crap manually |
| 13:48.56 | jelly | not |
| 13:49.20 | Crypticfortune | good to know ^^ |
| 13:49.33 | Innocentus_ | you need xserver console |
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| 13:49.35 | Innocentus_ | and then you simply call kdestart |
| 13:49.38 | Innocentus_ | and kde starts :) |
| 13:49.46 | Innocentus_ | no startkde |
| 13:49.48 | Innocentus_ | :) |
| 13:50.12 | nsadmin | or you can put kdm on the machine you want to connect to and do xdmcp to it |
| 13:50.29 | nsadmin | should be fast if you have a lan |
| 13:51.37 | cmatei_ | 2.6.32-rc8 is missing some modules, where would I report that ? |
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| 14:05.00 | Crypticfortune | fireflyseo: by stop you mean firewall? if so, fail2ban could do that... |
| 14:05.27 | Crypticfortune | oh you mean, the actual regexp...dunno, useragent=robot something something... |
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| 14:09.41 | jelly | !tell cmatei_ -about report bugs |
| 14:09.53 | jelly | !tell cmatei_ -about report bug |
| 14:09.57 | jelly | sorry about that |
| 14:11.23 | cmatei_ | jelly: well, yes, thanks but the question was more like.. which package |
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| 14:11.40 | cmatei_ | in the meantime i found them reported for -amd64 |
| 14:11.49 | jelly | cmatei_: eh, the kernel package itself will suffice, linux-image-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:12.33 | cmatei_ | i'm out of wireless all of a sudden :) |
| 14:12.33 | jelly | cmatei_: you probably need not make a duplicate bug then |
| 14:12.52 | jelly | oh no, a breakage in unstable?!?! |
| 14:13.15 | cmatei_ | unbelievable, no ? :) |
| 14:13.37 | jelly | you may or may not want to poke #debian-kernel (on irc.oftc.net) about the existing bug number |
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| 14:13.45 | jelly | (I didn't tell you that) |
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| 14:16.08 | cmatei_ | thanks. no need, i expect it will be fixed. just wanted to see if it's reported, basically |
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| 14:19.46 | fireflyseo | Crypticfortune: Yes mate. I was wondering if anyone had the regexp rule for access.log |
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| 14:33.46 | tdn | smartmontools tells me that my disk has 10 in reallocated_sector_ct. Is this bad? And how serious is it? |
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| 14:50.29 | angelawong | Hi. I need some help. I have just upgraded my Debian from etch to Lenny 5.0.3. When I go to /cat /etc/debian_version it says 5.0.3 but when I go to uname -r it gives me 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686. For some reason the kernel was not updated. Can someone please help? Any advice would be most appreciated. |
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| 14:51.55 | mjt | is there a way to configure hal to notice input devices _only_ ? |
| 14:52.10 | mjt | and ignore all the rest |
| 14:52.16 | rvsjoen | angelawong: did you reboot ? |
| 14:52.45 | angelawong | rvsjoen: Yes. I sure did. |
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| 14:53.12 | amphi | angelawong: install another kernel? |
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| 14:54.56 | angelawong | amphi: Did you mean apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686? I did this as well. There was no change. |
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| 14:56.24 | amphi | angelawong: what kernels have you in /boot? |
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| 14:57.31 | abrotman | angelawong: which verson of linux-image-2.6-686 is installed ? |
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| 14:58.35 | angelawong | apmphi and abrotman: This is what is in my /boot: http://pastie.org/727430 |
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| 14:59.19 | cdog69 | ok so my etc/init.d/apache2 restart is failing, which log file do I look in to see why? |
| 14:59.41 | catsup_ | cdog69: /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 15:00.08 | Teaboy`work | cdog69: doesn't it output any error on the command line? |
| 15:00.22 | amphi | angelawong: vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 is lenny's kernel, I believe |
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| 15:02.07 | cdog69 | seems the error is UNable to open logs, no date associated with it or anything, wierd |
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| 15:02.47 | cdog69 | Teaboy`work: the only msg is a warning, saying NameVirtualHosts*80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 15:02.48 | DerKurt | hi, is there any reason for debian to connect to something on port 135? i get a lot of blocked packets with iptables |
| 15:03.24 | catsup_ | loc-srv 135/tcp epmap # Location Service |
| 15:03.25 | catsup_ | loc-srv 135/udp epmap |
| 15:03.41 | angelawong | amphi: So it that is the case, why it is my kernel not updated to reflect lenny? |
| 15:04.28 | catsup_ | DerKurt: um, something on your debian machine is connecting TO port 135 on REMOTE machines? |
| 15:04.36 | DerKurt | yes |
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| 15:04.46 | amphi | angelawong: eh? |
| 15:04.54 | DerKurt | freshly installed domUs on my xen-machine |
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| 15:05.07 | amphi | angelawong: it appears you have the lenny kernel installed - you have but to boot it |
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| 15:05.24 | magyar_ | hi, is there a way to clean /tmp without reboot? |
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| 15:05.56 | catsup_ | magyar_: just remove files from there |
| 15:06.26 | magyar_ | catsup_, k, there is no utility for that? |
| 15:06.35 | magyar_ | only manual |
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| 15:07.56 | DerKurt | catsup_, things from outside trying to connect to my system on 135 are okay, but why is debian trying to connect somewhere? |
| 15:08.04 | catsup_ | magyar_: well i don't want to deny the existence of anything |
| 15:08.25 | catsup_ | magyar_: but you can just use a 'find' command to delete files older than a time period, which is what the boot scripts do |
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| 15:08.47 | Zambezi | Anyone here successfully configured bluetooth headset in Lenny? Preferable without Gnome/KDE/Xubuntu. I'm stuck at pairing. |
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| 15:09.00 | DerKurt | catsup_, http://pastebin.com/mc5112c8 |
| 15:09.27 | abrotman | angelawong: if you run update-grub, what happens ? |
| 15:09.38 | abrotman | magyar_: run the script that does it |
| 15:10.00 | rvsjoen | derkurt: that's the kernel saying ACK,RST to an incoming connection attempt |
| 15:10.17 | angelawong | amphi: I guess I don't understand why I have Debian 5.0.3 but when I do a uname -r, etch is still showing up: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 15:10.43 | catsup_ | DerKurt: that says SPT=135 (i.e. SOURCE port) |
| 15:10.48 | amphi | angelawong: because you booted the old kernel, I would say |
| 15:11.06 | catsup_ | DerKurt: but it's connecting to 78.43.15.232:17094 |
| 15:11.21 | rvsjoen | catsup_: its not connecting anywhere, it is not a SYN packet |
| 15:11.21 | angelawong | amphi: So do I need to get rid of the old kernel, of so, how? I am kind of new to this so any help would be most appreciated. |
| 15:11.40 | catsup_ | oh well whatever |
| 15:11.55 | amphi | angelawong: first, you should boot the new one, and make sure all is well |
| 15:11.58 | catsup_ | oh look ACK |
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| 15:12.17 | rvsjoen | most likely it is the kernel saying 'eat s*** and die' to whoever tried to connect to port 135 |
| 15:12.21 | catsup_ | yeah |
| 15:12.28 | catsup_ | well not exactly |
| 15:12.30 | DerKurt | so its nothing bad :D |
| 15:12.49 | catsup_ | DerKurt: that's a response to a connection. but your filter rules are wrong, they should block the SYN that initiates the connection rather than the response |
| 15:12.54 | rvsjoen | no, though you could be vulnerable to a SYN flood |
| 15:13.29 | angelawong | amphi: How do I boot the new one from the command line? |
| 15:13.30 | catsup_ | oh rvsjoen already said that |
| 15:13.43 | amphi | angelawong: there's no entry for it in your grub menu? |
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| 15:14.35 | LinuxMafia | hi all |
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| 15:15.39 | LinuxMafia | i installed compiz , when i start it X restarts .how can i check the reasons? |
| 15:16.07 | rvsjoen | how do you start it ? |
| 15:16.20 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: compiz --replace |
| 15:16.29 | catsup_ | magyar_: search for TMPTIME in /lib/init/bootclean.sh |
| 15:17.00 | angelawong | amphi: Here is my grub.lst: http://pastie.org/727430 I thought I was not suppose to edit it directly. |
| 15:17.12 | amphi | LinuxMafia: try running xinit and starting it from the term; you should see some messages, perhaps |
| 15:17.16 | rvsjoen | linuxmafia: and it doesn't write anything to /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 15:17.24 | catsup_ | magyar_: you can't run that script on a booted system, it affects more than just /tmp |
| 15:17.31 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: no |
| 15:17.34 | catsup_ | magyar_: but you can extract the part that does /tmp |
| 15:18.12 | LinuxMafia | amphi: let me see |
| 15:18.14 | amphi | angelawong: odd that the .26 kernel has no entry in there |
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| 15:19.17 | angelawong | amphi: Yeah. I thought when I upgraded from 4.0 to 5.0, the menu.lst should have been overwritten. I don't know why it was not overwritten with the newer kernel. |
| 15:19.39 | angelawong | amph: That is why I am so stuck . . . and confused. |
| 15:19.45 | rvsjoen | which grub is it ? |
| 15:19.49 | catsup_ | the new grub does not use menu.lst |
| 15:19.54 | hugo | how can I know which package installed a file (pkg_which on freebsd) ? |
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| 15:20.44 | amphi | catsup_: lenny doesn't use grub2 as far as I know |
| 15:20.49 | catsup_ | right |
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| 15:21.14 | catsup_ | didn't mean to imply that it did |
| 15:21.26 | LinuxMafia | amphi: it gives me error |
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| 15:21.39 | amphi | LinuxMafia: that's a small progress ;) |
| 15:22.00 | LinuxMafia | amphi: xinit gives me fatal error sais x is already running |
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| 15:22.34 | amphi | LinuxMafia: ouf |
| 15:22.59 | amphi | LinuxMafia: kill your X session or do xinit -- :1 for another |
| 15:23.06 | angelawong | Er, guys. So what should I do if lenny does not use grub? |
| 15:23.11 | amphi | but compiz may not run at all on a seconf one |
| 15:23.16 | amphi | angelawong: it does use grub |
| 15:23.39 | amphi | angelawong: you could try reinstall the kernel package, I guess |
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| 15:24.21 | LinuxMafia | i have no terminals wonder why , cntrl +alt +f1 wont give me nothing |
| 15:24.39 | cdog69 | ok, my etc/init.d/apache2 restart is failing... the only thing I see in my error.log file is 'Unable to Open Logs'. Can anyone shed some light on this issue? |
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| 15:25.37 | LinuxMafia | amphi: xinit gave me a terminal and compiz --replace just waits |
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| 15:25.54 | LinuxMafia | i mean system hangs |
| 15:26.01 | LinuxMafia | no X |
| 15:26.27 | LinuxMafia | mouse does not work and nore keybord |
| 15:26.35 | babilen | LinuxMafia: Try alt+print+r and then ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 15:27.11 | angelawong | amphi: Do you mean apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6-686? |
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| 15:27.30 | LinuxMafia | babilen: thanks , dont know really whats wrong with it |
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| 15:28.08 | babilen | LinuxMafia: did that work? |
| 15:28.37 | LinuxMafia | babilen: yes thanks alot |
| 15:28.42 | LinuxMafia | but still compiz dont work |
| 15:28.56 | babilen | LinuxMafia: alright .. have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors |
| 15:29.07 | babilen | LinuxMafia: Can't help you with compiz though ... |
| 15:29.21 | babilen | LinuxMafia: #compiz maybe? |
| 15:29.31 | amphi | angelawong: aye |
| 15:29.41 | LinuxMafia | oh i got some error |
| 15:29.56 | rvsjoen | what's the command to regenerate menu.lst ? anyway if the images is already in /boot you can probably use that |
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| 15:30.12 | craigevil | update-grub |
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| 15:30.42 | LinuxMafia | amphi: /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) -Fatal : No GLXFBCongfig for defualt depth |
| 15:31.04 | craigevil | !compiz |
| 15:31.05 | dpkg | Compiz is a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. It can run when <AIGLX> and the composite extension are enabled for your X server; see http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for installation, configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz . http://www.compiz.org/ #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:31.09 | Titan8990_ | rvsjoen, if your menu.lst is already borked you may need to remove it prior to running update-grub |
| 15:31.12 | amphi | LinuxMafia: that's something to ask in #compiz methinks |
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| 15:31.38 | LinuxMafia | oh ok |
| 15:31.39 | LinuxMafia | thanks |
| 15:31.46 | amphi | LinuxMafia: I played with it a good while back, but don't recall such stuff |
| 15:31.59 | rvsjoen | titan8990_: it was intended for angelawong, but thanks |
| 15:32.02 | amphi | LinuxMafia: xmonad is a lot more fun ;) |
| 15:32.09 | rvsjoen | linuxmafia: which video card and driver ? |
| 15:32.37 | angelawong | amphi: Did that a few times but to no avail. For some reason, my menu.lst was not overwritten. Should I do update-grub? |
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| 15:33.08 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: P4m800 |
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| 15:33.54 | angelawong | rvjoen: Hi. I was not sure whether you were talking to me. So should I delete my menu.lst and then do update-grub? |
| 15:34.01 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: CN700/PM800 Pro/p4m800 ce/vn800 |
| 15:34.12 | angelawong | rvsjoen: Hi. I was not sure whether you were talking to me. So should I delete my menu.lst and then do update-grub? |
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| 15:34.16 | rvsjoen | angelawong: you could try, though dont delete it just move it or rename it |
| 15:34.57 | rvsjoen | linuxmafia: try running compiz with --no-libgl-fallback |
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| 15:36.35 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: unknown option |
| 15:37.00 | angelawong | rvsjoen: This is interesting. So I renamed menu.lst and regenerated a new one. This was what it said: Generating /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:37.01 | angelawong | Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... |
| 15:37.01 | angelawong | Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 15:37.01 | angelawong | Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
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| 15:38.36 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: it uses driver openchrome |
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| 15:38.51 | willian | is there a way to change fbpanel desktop numbers? |
| 15:39.11 | amphi | angelawong: reboot and try booting the .26 kernel |
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| 15:39.48 | angelawong | rvsjoen: Oops, I got kicked out. This is what happened: http://pastie.org/727530. Should I delete the etch kernel before I update-grub? |
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| 15:40.05 | rvsjoen | linuxmafia: try http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=108211 |
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| 15:40.21 | LinuxMafia | rvsjoen: thanks |
| 15:40.26 | rvsjoen | angelawong: no, but edit the new menu.lst and check what the 'default' option is set to |
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| 15:42.24 | rvsjoen | angelawong: or do: grep "^default" /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 15:43.06 | angelawong | rvsjoen: I thought I was not suppose to edit the menu.lst. Here it is: http://pastie.org/727530. Should I delete the last 2 sections of the End Default Options as the end of the page? |
| 15:44.04 | rvsjoen | angelawong: its fine as it is, as long as 'default 0' it will use the first entry in the list |
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| 15:50.09 | B|aster | Question: Should I Install debian or ubuntu? |
| 15:50.21 | petemc | try both |
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| 15:50.58 | rvsjoen | b|aster: you could suspect the answer to be a bit biased as you're asking the debian channel... |
| 15:51.03 | Linux-IRC | Hi, is anyone here ? |
| 15:51.10 | Linux-IRC | Hi, is anyone here ? |
| 15:51.14 | B|aster | what is the best web panel to use? |
| 15:51.18 | Titan8990_ | !anyone |
| 15:51.18 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 15:51.24 | rvsjoen | to do what ? |
| 15:51.39 | abrotman | B|aster: AFAIK, there is only one in Debian |
| 15:51.39 | themill | Linux-IRC: what you think, given past experiences and the 936 nicks in this channel...? |
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| 15:51.55 | B|aster | setup domains on my dedicated server |
| 15:51.57 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, which one is that? |
| 15:52.01 | Titan8990_ | B|aster, ssh |
| 15:52.05 | abrotman | !dtc |
| 15:52.06 | dpkg | DTC is Domain Technologie Control, a GPL-licensed web hosting control panel - http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html, or apt-cache show dtc-toaster |
| 15:52.09 | Linux-IRC | Can anyone give me the link to download debian-testing.iso with kde ? |
| 15:52.19 | abrotman | Linux-IRC: use the netinst |
| 15:52.36 | Linux-IRC | Is it possible to get debian-testing.iso ? |
| 15:52.39 | abrotman | Linux-IRC: use the netinst |
| 15:52.48 | petemc | Linux-IRC: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:52.57 | Linux-IRC | abrotman: Bandwith is the problem |
| 15:53.09 | petemc | correct |
| 15:53.10 | abrotman | Linux-IRC: so you're going to pull a whole CD instead of what you actually need ? |
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| 15:54.01 | Linux-IRC | petemc: Isn't it for debian lenny? |
| 15:54.08 | petemc | it isnt |
| 15:54.19 | Linux-IRC | petemc: Why? |
| 15:54.21 | abrotman | did you actually read the webpage? |
| 15:55.08 | Linux-IRC | petemc: Are you talking about this netinst (generally 135-175 MB) and businesscard (generally 20-50 MB) CD images |
| 15:55.15 | abrotman | did you actually read the webpage? |
| 15:55.28 | petemc | Linux-IRC: you asked for the testing iso, i showed you where it is |
| 15:55.49 | abrotman | petemc: maybe you should do it in english? |
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| 15:56.02 | petemc | or diagramatically perhaps |
| 15:56.19 | petemc | +m |
| 15:56.21 | angelawong | rvsjoen and amphi: I have rebooted the server now: uname -r is now 2.6.26-2-686. Etch is no longer showing up. Does this look right to you for a lenny upgrade? |
| 15:56.24 | amphi | angelawong: you shouldn't need to edit menu.lst - I would boot the .26 kernel, and if all seems well, you can use aptitude to remove the old kernel |
| 15:56.39 | rvsjoen | angelawong: yes |
| 15:56.58 | angelawong | rvsjoen: So the word lenny need not have to appear in uname -r? |
| 15:57.17 | rvsjoen | angelawong: no |
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| 15:57.46 | ZeZu | anyone know why my router doesn't see my hostname ? |
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| 15:58.01 | ZeZu | /etc/hostname is ok |
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| 15:58.57 | ZeZu | maybe kernel hasn't read it yet when it does dhcp, one might hope that it would renew w/ proper info later if this was the case though |
| 15:58.58 | angelawong | rvsjoen: Awesome! |
| 15:59.18 | angelawong | amphi: Would it be # aptitude remove vmlinuz-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686? |
| 15:59.19 | ZeZu | or that it wouldn't have a difficult time reading the hostname beforehand either way |
| 15:59.30 | keymap | ZeZu: because it tries to resolve it via your ISP's DNS and they don't have reverse records set? |
| 15:59.31 | rvsjoen | zezu: /etc/hostname is for the host itself, your router either needs dns or it needs to have the hostname in its own hosts file |
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| 16:00.09 | ZeZu | rvsjoen: but it picks it up for other machines |
| 16:00.25 | ZeZu | windows, linux, bsd |
| 16:00.35 | Titan8990_ | rvsjoen, DHCP can tell the dhcp server what a client's hostname is |
| 16:00.44 | ZeZu | or has in the past for linux either way |
| 16:00.56 | Titan8990_ | not sure how thats configured however |
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| 16:01.10 | ZeZu | and why would the router have its in its own hosts file? it would need to get it first .. |
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| 16:01.14 | amphi | angelawong: 'dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ii' to see installed kernel package names |
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| 16:01.49 | ZeZu | keymap: i'm not talking about reverse dns, though that is a fail, i'm assuming thats got everything to do with the ISP though |
| 16:02.16 | Titan8990_ | ZeZu, looks like /etc/dhclient.conf might be what your looking for |
| 16:02.24 | ZeZu | Titan8990_: will take a look thanks |
| 16:02.41 | acu | Is KDE still broken in squeeze ? |
| 16:03.19 | angelawong | amphi: Aha! http://pastie.org/727530. So it should be # aptitude remove linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf* ? |
| 16:03.49 | Linux-IRC | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 16:05.44 | Linux-IRC | If i download debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ and install it would i get debian squeeze ? |
| 16:05.57 | ZeZu | Titan8990_: thanks again that works nicely if you send it the hostname, wonder if i can use = `cat /etc/hostname` though ? |
| 16:06.08 | Linux-IRC | petemc: ^ |
| 16:06.28 | ZeZu | not a big deal since its going to be static, just wonder how it was setup, probably the installer set it up after i selected hostname |
| 16:06.43 | amphi | angelawong: remove linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf - I think that should get rid of the other also; if not, do the other also manually |
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| 16:07.30 | Titan8990_ | ZeZu, in the send, it looked like there was a specific option for hostname |
| 16:07.30 | ZeZu | yes, i used it |
| 16:07.30 | ZeZu | works great |
| 16:07.30 | Titan8990_ | ZeZu, and `hostname` is the same as `cat /etc/hostname` |
| 16:07.30 | Titan8990_ | ZeZu, ah, excellent |
| 16:07.30 | ZeZu | ah |
| 16:07.35 | Linux-IRC | If i download debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ and install it would i get debian squeeze ? |
| 16:07.37 | ZeZu | well i didn't try that, will try it now just to be thorough |
| 16:07.44 | ZeZu | thanks again , bbiab |
| 16:07.49 | angelawong | amphi: Thanks. I will give it a try. |
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| 16:08.35 | Linux-IRC | Is it possible to get debian testing iso with kde now ? has anyone made iso for debian-testing-kde |
| 16:08.38 | Linux-IRC | ? |
| 16:08.40 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, if you have to ask a question like that, you should NOT be running squeeze |
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| 16:09.04 | Linux-IRC | Titan8990_: Why ? |
| 16:09.11 | angelawong | rvsjoen, amphi and craigevil: Thank you so very much for your help this morning. I really, really appreciate it!!!!! :-) |
| 16:09.14 | Titan8990_ | !testing |
| 16:09.14 | dpkg | testing is probably a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 16:09.31 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, " You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times." |
| 16:09.55 | Linux-IRC | Bandwith is the problem |
| 16:10.33 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: if bandwidth is the problem you really shouldnt use testing. |
| 16:10.52 | p3rror | hello |
| 16:10.55 | Linux-IRC | I want to download debian-tesing-kde.iso from another place where there is good download speed,then i would install it |
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| 16:11.00 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Why? |
| 16:11.08 | p3rror | my grub are damaged by windows installation |
| 16:11.10 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, updates MUCH more often |
| 16:11.22 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: its updated alot and will eat up quite alot of bandwidth thats why |
| 16:11.28 | p3rror | please can you help |
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| 16:11.36 | laurus | Is there a way to maximize a window in xmessage? |
| 16:11.49 | Titan8990_ | !tell p3rror about fixmbr |
| 16:12.12 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Titan8990_ :That is managable, i will not get more that 50MB one day, |
| 16:12.20 | Linux-IRC | update |
| 16:12.26 | amphi | angelawong: have both the .24 entries gone from menu.lst? |
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| 16:12.45 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, until openoffice needs to upgrade |
| 16:12.54 | Linux-IRC | I want to download full debian-testing-kde.iso once and install it |
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| 16:13.21 | Linux-IRC | Installing full kde will eat more 500MB |
| 16:13.25 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: why not get the netinstall and just install what you need in that case? will save bandwidth instead of getting a complete cd/dvd iso |
| 16:13.28 | Linux-IRC | at a time |
| 16:13.45 | Titan8990_ | ehnvis, he was already told that |
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| 16:13.56 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Yes, probably i have to do that |
| 16:14.00 | amphi | laurus: xmessage can take a geometry arg |
| 16:14.03 | Titan8990_ | actually now that i think about it... he ignores the majority of what hes told |
| 16:14.05 | ehnvis | Titan8990_: i know but i cant hurt to tell him twice as it looks :D |
| 16:14.10 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: I have accepted that suggestion |
| 16:14.31 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: But i will not get desktop environment |
| 16:14.45 | laurus | amphi, okay |
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| 16:15.59 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: just install a minimal environment and then only pull in what you need. Cant really say anything about gnome/kde as I dont use a DE/WM, console running screen is all i need. |
| 16:16.04 | angelawong | amphi: Yup! Both of the etch kernels are gone . . . . Thanks! |
| 16:16.17 | laurus | It's working amphi, thanks a bunch :) |
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| 16:16.21 | LinuxMafia | did not work |
| 16:16.29 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: So are you on console mode now? |
| 16:16.38 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: yes |
| 16:16.48 | LinuxMafia | No whitelisted driver found |
| 16:17.52 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: I will go for console mode if i can install sid , is there any netinst for sid ? |
| 16:18.31 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, why do you insist on not running stable? |
| 16:18.48 | Linux-IRC | I want latest packages |
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| 16:19.00 | EagleRock | !tell Linux-IRC about install sid |
| 16:19.02 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, then use a bleeding-edge distro |
| 16:19.13 | Titan8990_ | Linux-IRC, debian isn't it... go try gentoo |
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| 16:20.44 | Linux-IRC | Titan8990_: Man,installing gentoo is difficult,time consuming |
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| 16:21.01 | tomodachi | isnt that what running unstable stuff is all about? |
| 16:21.02 | tomodachi | :) |
| 16:21.14 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Hello, if you are on console mode ,how do you do internet browsing |
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| 16:21.18 | Linux-IRC | ? |
| 16:21.23 | ehnvis | Linux-IRC: elinks |
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| 16:21.43 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Does that serve all purpose ? |
| 16:22.01 | Titan8990_ | !sns |
| 16:22.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 16:22.09 | ehnvis | enough for me atleast as i couldnt care less about pictures/flash and all that crap |
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| 16:22.59 | Linux-IRC | Ok, i will go for testing, |
| 16:23.08 | Linux-IRC | EagleRock: Thank you, ^ |
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| 16:24.07 | Shockrates | hi |
| 16:24.12 | Shockrates | how many packages does debian have? |
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| 16:24.18 | Shockrates | in stable&testing |
| 16:24.19 | alcohol | lolz |
| 16:24.23 | alcohol | go count them |
| 16:24.25 | manug | ehnvis, is there a console-based chat client you'd recommend? (for aim/jabbar etc) |
| 16:24.33 | petemc | Shockrates: apt-cache stats |
| 16:25.03 | nkuttler | manug: i used to use centericq |
| 16:25.05 | Titan8990_ | !stats |
| 16:25.06 | dpkg | Since Fri Dec 4 12:05:03 2009, there have been 0 modifications, 40 questions, 11 dunnos, 0 morons and 11 commands. I have been awake for 4h 20m 2s this session, and currently reference 39169 factoids. I'm using about 16520 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 18.34/1.04 child 0/0 |
| 16:25.07 | ehnvis | manug: i use bitlbee for such stuff which gives me a "channel" in irssi where all msn/im stuff goes |
| 16:25.16 | Titan8990_ | how does dpkg count morons? |
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| 16:25.29 | Linux-IRC | Shockrates: Over 20000 |
| 16:25.38 | manug | nkuttler, ehnvis -- thanks, i'll check those out! |
| 16:25.38 | petemc | people that say stuff it doesnt understand |
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| 16:26.04 | Titan8990_ | petemc, i think that is the "dunnos" |
| 16:26.26 | Titan8990_ | !moron Linux-IRC |
| 16:26.26 | dpkg | Linux-IRC: You are moron #42 |
| 16:26.29 | Titan8990_ | !stats |
| 16:26.29 | dpkg | Since Fri Dec 4 12:05:03 2009, there have been 0 modifications, 43 questions, 18 dunnos, 0 morons and 13 commands. I have been awake for 4h 21m 26s this session, and currently reference 39169 factoids. I'm using about 16520 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 18.79/1.07 child 0/0 |
| 16:27.45 | Shockrates | Titan8990_: i mean realistic how many |
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| 16:28.20 | Titan8990_ | Shockrates, Total package names: 30891 (1236k) |
| 16:28.22 | Linux-IRC | What's the command to install xine-lib |
| 16:28.46 | Justin | Linux-IRC: why? |
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| 16:30.04 | Linux-IRC | Justin: To play audio/video |
| 16:30.10 | Linux-IRC | multimedia |
| 16:30.13 | Justin | Linux-IRC: xine-lib is a library not an application |
| 16:30.55 | Linux-IRC | Justin: kaffeine is here |
| 16:31.19 | Justin | so install kaffeine |
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| 16:31.40 | MrCable | hello |
| 16:31.51 | MrCable | how i can change the bash resolution? |
| 16:31.51 | Shockrates | Titan8990_: so really arround 10000 packages |
| 16:31.58 | amphi | angelawong: good-oh |
| 16:32.03 | Justin | MrCable: what? |
| 16:32.16 | Linux-IRC | Shockrates: apt-caehe stats |
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| 16:32.42 | Titan8990_ | MrCable, http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer |
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| 16:33.43 | MrCable | o sea quiero cambiar el tamaño del bash por q corro un programa que necesita una resolucion menor y no me entran las letras |
| 16:33.48 | Justin | !+es |
| 16:33.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:34.15 | angelawong | amphi: Thanks. Everything is working great. Thanks for all your help!!! :-) |
| 16:34.22 | Linux-IRC | ehnvis: Are you using irssi ? |
| 16:34.24 | Linux-IRC | now |
| 16:34.33 | ehnvis | yes |
| 16:35.02 | craigevil | Shockrates: Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 22971 packages, 1933 maintainers, 59051 MB installed size, 20844 MB compressed size |
| 16:35.07 | manug | ehnvis, (sorry for all the questions, you must seem like a celeb) do you run your own bitlbee server? is it worth setting up? |
| 16:35.08 | MrCable | Justin i need change the bash size.... how i can do that? |
| 16:35.20 | Justin | bash does not have a size. |
| 16:35.30 | MrCable | resolution? |
| 16:35.36 | Justin | bash does not have a resolution |
| 16:35.39 | ehnvis | manug: just a local server which no one else has access too and yes i think its worth it. |
| 16:35.43 | Shockrates | craigevil: most packages exist in all distros right? |
| 16:35.48 | MrCable | uhmmm??? |
| 16:35.49 | Shockrates | like in arch |
| 16:35.51 | Shockrates | or gentoo |
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| 16:36.26 | do0ob | hi all |
| 16:36.42 | do0ob | is there a local dns cache on debian? |
| 16:36.46 | do0ob | by default? |
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| 16:37.22 | craigevil | Shockrates: sid... 27827 packages, 2091 maintainers, so no stable doesnt have all the same packages that are in testing or sid |
| 16:38.18 | MrCable | i need change size to terminal |
| 16:38.30 | MrCable | how i can do ? |
| 16:38.38 | do0ob | MrCable: which terminal are you using? konsole? |
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| 16:39.06 | MrCable | konsole.... when the debian boot.... |
| 16:39.18 | Linux-IRC | craigevil: Hello, your nick and the useraccount in debian forum are now same ,nice editing on debian forum |
| 16:39.21 | MrCable | the first screen |
| 16:39.41 | do0ob | MrCable: change the framebuffer resolution |
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| 16:39.54 | MrCable | how to? |
| 16:40.11 | MrCable | it is easy? |
| 16:40.21 | Linux-IRC | bye |
| 16:41.11 | do0ob | MrCable: which version are you using? |
| 16:41.24 | MrCable | 5.0 |
| 16:41.30 | do0ob | MrCable: grub1 or grub2? |
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| 16:41.58 | Titan8990_ | MrCable, i already linked you to a detailed guide... what happened? |
| 16:42.30 | amphi | angelawong: you're welcome |
| 16:43.04 | do0ob | Does anyone know why i can't get ywrap to work in the framebuffer, i'm stuck with redraw, which is slow |
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| 16:44.35 | MrCable | do0ob grup2 debian 5.0 lenny |
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| 16:45.02 | MrCable | Titan8990_ that is for gennto i got debian:S |
| 16:45.32 | Titan8990_ | MrCable, the guide on what to add to the grub line for booting, is the same on all linux distros |
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| 16:46.05 | do0ob | MrCable: sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then uncomment this line and set it to what you want: i have this: GRUB_GFXMODE=1680x1050 you might want 640x480 or something smaller |
| 16:47.21 | MrCable | do0ob : thanks you very match |
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| 16:48.05 | MrCable | Titan8990_ oks thanks... |
| 16:49.23 | simonrvn | Titan8990_: you want 'dstats {unstable,testing,stable}' or similar |
| 16:49.43 | Titan8990_ | simonrvn, ah, thanks |
| 16:50.20 | simonrvn | np |
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| 16:56.05 | LinuxMafia | hum i dont think it gonna work |
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| 16:56.55 | MrCable | 13:56] [LinuxMafia VERSION reply]: mirc 6.12 Microsoft Windows Vista |
| 16:57.05 | zek152 | Is there something like synaptic for debian (or some alternative to aptitude) |
| 16:57.20 | LinuxMafia | Unknown option '--no-libgl-fallback' |
| 16:57.31 | LinuxMafia | Linux LinuxMafia 2.6.28-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Sun Feb 8 01:15:33 EST 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
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| 16:57.48 | LinuxMafia | MrCable: ^^ |
| 16:57.54 | MrCable | ummm |
| 16:58.04 | xyan | zek152: synaptic is in debian |
| 16:58.09 | MrCable | hehehe |
| 16:58.13 | zek152 | ok. thanks |
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| 16:58.42 | LinuxMafia | compiz wont start on my debian box |
| 16:59.33 | ehnvis | erm a gentoo kernel on a debian box? now i have seen everything |
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| 17:00.08 | LinuxMafia | ehnvis: i have 2 box close to each other |
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| 17:00.52 | LinuxMafia | ehnvis: the one with debian cant start compiz |
| 17:01.21 | ehnvis | LinuxMafia: ah gottya |
| 17:01.33 | zek152 | I am trying to run a program i developed on a different machine (running ubuntu) that uses the alsa api. After a few hours of looking through alsa documentation i still am unable to get alsa working on my debian machine. I believe that the problem is that I dont know how to get rid of OSS. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:01.55 | xyan | zek152: dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base |
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| 17:03.41 | zek152 | xyan, thanks. ill give that a try |
| 17:03.43 | Ansumon | hii all, i tried to install debian from usb.i used unetbootin and debian lenny. My system booted from usb, after some steps, the installation prompted , it cant find cd. I used usb bootin then why would it ask for cd. |
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| 17:06.01 | xoz | Ansumon: which part of installation it asked? after the formatting of files and installation of base files? |
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| 17:06.23 | Ansumon | no,almost at the beginning |
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| 17:06.40 | Ansumon | Just after selection of which type |
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| 17:07.12 | xoz | which usb install howto did you follow? |
| 17:07.14 | Ansumon | Like quick or something.....,sorry i dont remeber exactly |
| 17:07.24 | Ansumon | Unetbootin |
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| 17:08.03 | Ansumon | I just installed unetbootin.i had debian iso for cd. I used it with unetbootin |
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| 17:10.00 | subanomic | hi guys |
| 17:10.06 | Ansumon | Xoz, shud i be doin something more, for setting it to boot from usb |
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| 17:10.34 | subanomic | how bad... i made a great mistake |
| 17:10.37 | subanomic | I did chmod 666 * -R in /usr |
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| 17:10.52 | brahman1 | subanic: ouch! |
| 17:10.55 | subanomic | is there any chance to restore the permissions? |
| 17:10.58 | xyan | Ansumon: you have to use the correct kernel/initrd and boot image from here http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/hd-media/ + the latest iso (5.0.3) i think |
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| 17:11.16 | pm2 | Any PAM gurus around? I'm trying to test a semi-complicated PAM setup (authentication only against active directory using pam_ldap), and its not working the way I want, and I'm having trouble tracking down the problem. Basically, I'd like to provide a username/password to some test facility, and see if it returns valid/invalid |
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| 17:11.34 | subanomic | perhaps by reinstalling everything? Is there a command that reinstalls all the packages? |
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| 17:12.54 | brahman1 | subanic: Any backups? |
| 17:12.55 | xoz | Ansumon: /msg dpkg usb-install |
| 17:13.16 | do0ob | subanomic: what happened? |
| 17:13.37 | subanomic | no backups, but I wanna avoid reinstalling everything |
| 17:14.05 | subanomic | well, i was tired and inattentive |
| 17:14.10 | xoz | Ansumon: you may ask unetbootin for this. it is not part of debian |
| 17:14.17 | subanomic | i wanted to do it in some other folder |
| 17:14.28 | Ansumon | xoz, ok thanks |
| 17:14.44 | brahman1 | subanomic: I dont think it's possible |
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| 17:15.17 | brahman1 | subanomic: best to have a backup for these kind of situations... ;-) |
| 17:15.30 | subanomic | yeah, well, I've learned of it :) |
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| 17:16.31 | spaceinvader | i'm bored waiting for a talk from steve mcintyre to start |
| 17:16.41 | Ansumon | xyan, which file shud i select from there |
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| 17:16.58 | Ansumon | I see boot.img.gz |
| 17:17.19 | do0ob | you might be able to do it |
| 17:17.31 | brahman1 | subanomic: usually the hardest way is the way you have just learnt |
| 17:17.51 | brahman1 | do0ob: interested in your solution. |
| 17:18.02 | do0ob | spaceinvader: if you cleaned up the old packages form /var/cache/apt then extracted the remaining stuff to a temp directory, then you'll have a new /usr ready to go |
| 17:18.05 | xyan | Ansumon: do you have a linux machine? |
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| 17:18.20 | do0ob | but you might have to chmod 777 or some of the apps in /usr/bin won't work |
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| 17:18.26 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:18.32 | subanomic | well, I got an idea, perhaps I could set up another debian and match the permissions |
| 17:18.54 | d1b | subanomic: .... |
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| 17:19.06 | subanomic | d1b: ? |
| 17:19.19 | brahman1 | subanomic: if you get another machine just tar up as root /usr and tar it over the borked /usr... |
| 17:19.27 | Ansumon | xyan,no, windows |
| 17:19.45 | brahman1 | maybe check the /usr are identical... |
| 17:19.47 | d1b | subanomic: i would reinstall personally. |
| 17:19.57 | do0ob | or just try my idea |
| 17:20.02 | brahman1 | d1b: ditto |
| 17:20.07 | subanomic | does /usr only contain files that have been installed via apt-get/aptitude? |
| 17:20.11 | d1b | !security |
| 17:20.11 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
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| 17:20.20 | do0ob | subanomic: yeds |
| 17:20.20 | zek_ | When alsaconf is searching for my sound card it doesnt find the right one. is there a way to manually force a driver? |
| 17:20.22 | do0ob | yes |
| 17:20.28 | d1b | subanomic: one would hope. |
| 17:20.28 | subanomic | how do I reinstall everything? |
| 17:20.38 | do0ob | unless you have stuff in /usr/local/ which you've added |
| 17:20.40 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.51 | koollman | subanomic: well, you can start with the basic permissions to keep the machine usable. chmod -R 755 /usr/sbin /usr/bin |
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| 17:21.00 | d1b | subanomic: faster, to just reinstall. |
| 17:21.03 | brahman1 | do0ob: isn't chmoding everything 777 a bit insecure? |
| 17:21.17 | do0ob | brahman1: ok, well 755 was better |
| 17:21.27 | do0ob | but its going to get replaced anyway |
| 17:21.46 | xyan | Ansumon: well, which option did you select in unetbootin? |
| 17:21.47 | brahman1 | do0ob: imho best to reeinstall... |
| 17:21.47 | subanomic | well, i'll start with 755 |
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| 17:22.02 | Ansumon | From iso |
| 17:22.03 | d1b | subanomic: this isn't a good solution btw. |
| 17:22.13 | xyan | Ansumon: and which image file? |
| 17:22.24 | d1b | *you* are probably going to have stuff b0rked. |
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| 17:23.21 | Ansumon | Debian -503-i386-cd-1 |
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| 17:23.47 | xyan | Ansumon: you have to use the netinstaller not the regular cd image i think |
| 17:23.48 | brahman1 | subanomic: was this box in production? |
| 17:24.07 | subanomic | my notebook |
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| 17:24.20 | Ansumon | xyan , u mean i have to install from net directly? |
| 17:24.24 | subanomic | perhaps it's the best idea to set it up anew |
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| 17:24.44 | zaoul | how can I get debian to install slower? |
| 17:24.51 | d1b | zaoul: ... |
| 17:24.56 | xyan | Ansumon: you select a network mirror from the installer right |
| 17:25.01 | xyan | Ansumon: try this iso http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 17:25.54 | brahman1 | subanomic: dpkg -get-selections > packages.txt and tar up /home /etc & rebuild... |
| 17:26.19 | Ansumon | xyan, will i need net connection to install, debian |
| 17:26.32 | Ansumon | xyan,...if i choose this iso |
| 17:26.52 | xyan | Ansumon: you can install a very basic system wihtout needing to download anything |
| 17:27.07 | xyan | Ansumon: but if you want a desktop environment the installer needs to download packages |
| 17:27.37 | xoz | Ansumon: just use the cd1 because netinst will require network install |
| 17:27.42 | Ansumon | xyan, so i wont be having any UI. Just the console,right |
| 17:28.00 | xyan | xoz: unetbootin works only with netinst afaik thats the problem |
| 17:28.09 | Ansumon | Xoz, can i use cd1 foe usb boot |
| 17:28.20 | xoz | xyan: i see |
| 17:28.24 | zek_ | I have a file in my etc/modprobe.d that is called linux-sound-base_noOSS and it blacklists the module i need for my soundcard for alsa. I dont know exactly what that means but it seems like that is probably what is preventing me from identifying my sound card with alsa. How do i fix it. I dont think that i should just remove the line because im guessing that there is a root issue that is deeper. |
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| 17:29.18 | Ansumon | Xyan, in unetbootin there is an option, for downloading distro to usb, the first option .will it work |
| 17:29.41 | xyan | Ansumon: i dont know, why dont you try? |
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| 17:29.52 | docmax | hello i have troubles with ubuntu |
| 17:29.57 | xyan | Ansumon: if it is there... it should be working, dont you think? |
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| 17:30.02 | p3rror | i'm trying to fix the linux MBR |
| 17:30.12 | p3rror | well when i try to install grub |
| 17:30.20 | p3rror | with grub-install /dev/sda |
| 17:30.24 | p3rror | i get The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly |
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| 17:30.38 | p3rror | please can you clarify me what happenning |
| 17:30.39 | Ansumon | xyan, yup, i will give it a try today. |
| 17:30.47 | xyan | Ansumon: good luck then |
| 17:31.15 | Ansumon | xyan, thanks :). i will let u know. |
| 17:32.26 | jelly | docmax: you'll have to ask in the #ubuntu channel about those, sorry |
| 17:33.13 | jelly | p3rror: a) does the file exist? b) is the device where that filesystem is located present in /boot/grub/device.map? |
| 17:33.48 | p3rror | well i booted with a live cd |
| 17:33.54 | jelly | p3rror: c) did you already google for "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" (with the doublequotes)? |
| 17:34.02 | p3rror | yep |
| 17:34.13 | jelly | p3rror: oh, are you in a chroot? |
| 17:34.45 | p3rror | no |
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| 17:35.00 | p3rror | the reason i find is can be that the partition type is incorrect, |
| 17:35.12 | p3rror | the partition is a have a linux lvm |
| 17:35.13 | jelly | please continue describing the setup. |
| 17:35.17 | xoz | !fixgrub |
| 17:35.18 | dpkg | fixgrub is, like, As root: mkdir /mnt/point ; mount -t <fstype> -orw /dev/blah /mnt/point (where /blah = your / partition) ; mount --bind /dev /mnt/point/dev ; mount --bind /proc /mnt/point/proc ; chroot /mnt/point ; grub-install /dev/blah (to install in MBR) |
| 17:35.40 | jelly | p3rror: you'll need grub2 (grub-pc package) if /boot is on lvm. |
| 17:35.40 | xoz | p3rror: ^^ |
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| 17:36.29 | jhutchins_lt | jelly: Will lilo work? |
| 17:36.54 | jelly | jhutchins_lt: I've no idea |
| 17:37.18 | jhutchins_lt | 'cause grub2 is a bit of a mess. LOTS of things that can break. |
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| 17:38.27 | jelly | sure. That's why people recommend using a small proper /boot partition at the beginning of the device |
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| 17:41.13 | jelly | p3rror: if you have no data on the setup yet, I'd strongly recommend remaking the partition setup that way ^^ |
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| 17:47.22 | en1gma | http://pastebin.com/d4aa958fa <<<error i get when i try to update debian squeeze |
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| 17:47.39 | en1gma | gnome version |
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| 17:49.47 | Titan8990_ | en1gma, was this not a big indication that things were fucked? NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 17:50.22 | en1gma | yea i dont know whats going on |
| 17:50.26 | en1gma | what do i need to do |
| 17:50.26 | Titan8990_ | en1gma, what is your current $PATH variable say? are you missing paths or are you missing commands? are you sure you should be using squeeze? |
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| 17:51.01 | en1gma | Linux-PC:/home/tim# $PATH |
| 17:51.01 | en1gma | bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin: No such file or directory |
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| 17:52.13 | en1gma | noh there was a problem with gnone dektop manager also....when i stell "Sytem>shutdown" it always Makes me Login and then it goes to desktop then i have to tell it same thing again |
| 17:52.16 | Titan8990_ | en1gma, `type ldconfig` |
| 17:52.22 | en1gma | System>Shutdown |
| 17:52.33 | Titan8990_ | en1gma, shutdown -h now is pretty effective |
| 17:53.18 | amphi | could someone with an intel video card on testing try to reproduce a bug in stellarium? I get display corruption on the toolbars, see http://picpaste.com/ss-2009-12-04-17_11.png |
| 17:53.18 | en1gma | if im in a shell and tell it to restart it dont make me login and do it again i imagine from the shell shutdown works also |
| 17:53.21 | en1gma | ldconfig ran but didnt list anyting |
| 17:54.32 | en1gma | amphi you have an 800mhz cpu? |
| 17:55.08 | Titan8990_ | en1gma, i didn't ask you to run ldconfig, I told you to run `type ldconfig` |
| 17:55.11 | amphi | en1gma: cpu freq scaling ;) |
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| 17:55.38 | en1gma | ldconfig is hashed (/sbin/ldconfig) |
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| 17:56.10 | en1gma | it looks like i have a /usr/sbin so it is in the debian update |
| 17:56.25 | p3rror | jelly thanks |
| 17:56.31 | p3rror | how can i unchroot |
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| 17:57.10 | en1gma | Titan8990_, i have all 3 of those paths existing....just checked em |
| 17:57.20 | en1gma | so i dont know what the heck that installer is saying |
| 17:57.21 | soopos | How can you use two Xs at two different Upstart's run levels in Debian? |
| 17:57.45 | en1gma | amphi, very nice |
| 17:57.55 | Titan8990_ | soopos, there is no upstart in debian |
| 17:58.03 | Titan8990_ | soopos, thats a ubuntu thing |
| 17:58.10 | themill | judd versions upstart |
| 17:58.11 | judd | themill: upstart -- sid: 0.6.3-1 squeeze: 0.6.3-1 |
| 17:58.28 | Titan8990_ | alright, not in debian stable :p |
| 17:58.30 | soopos | Titan8990_: Can you use two Xs at two Debian's run levels? |
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| 17:58.39 | themill | en1gma: what's the output of "dpkg -l libc6\* | grep ^.i" |
| 17:58.52 | Titan8990_ | soopos, run levels don't have anything to do with it, its the DISPLAY |
| 17:59.04 | p3rror | please |
| 17:59.04 | en1gma | ii libc6 2.10.1-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 17:59.04 | en1gma | ii libc6-dev 2.10.1-7 GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Hea |
| 17:59.05 | en1gma | ii libc6-i686 2.10.1-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries [i686 optimi |
| 17:59.11 | p3rror | can you help |
| 17:59.26 | Titan8990_ | themill, does "hashed" mean that the binary exists but does not have the right libs? |
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| 17:59.46 | themill | Titan8990_: no, just means that bash remembers its location from a previous invocation |
| 17:59.53 | Titan8990_ | aH |
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| 18:00.08 | soopos | Titan8990_: How can you change the socket to the display such that the other X gets the output from other user? |
| 18:00.23 | en1gma | do i need to format? |
| 18:00.49 | themill | en1gma: do you have "libc-bin" installed? |
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| 18:01.00 | en1gma | checking synaptic |
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| 18:01.08 | Titan8990_ | soopos, startx -- :1 will start xserver on a new display, ctrl+alt+f8 |
| 18:01.31 | en1gma | themill, yes its installed |
| 18:01.41 | en1gma | 2.10.2-2 |
| 18:01.53 | themill | en1gma: what's the output of "aptitude -f install"? (use a pastebin) |
| 18:01.53 | kombi_ | How do I fix the timezone database? I get Timezone database is corrupt - this should *never* happen! |
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| 18:02.33 | en1gma | http://pastebin.com/d5bfe6a64 |
| 18:02.33 | Titan8990_ | themill, that libc version doesn't appear to be in debian? |
| 18:02.48 | abrotman | judd: versions libc6 |
| 18:02.49 | judd | abrotman: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.10.2-2 squeeze: 2.10.2-2 |
| 18:03.02 | themill | makes en1gma read that output first |
| 18:03.07 | kombi_ | If I do apt-get install tzdata the boy tries to do crazy stuff... |
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| 18:03.10 | abrotman | Titan8990_: he's probably out of date |
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| 18:03.27 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, hes trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze.... right now |
| 18:03.34 | gffdgdfgdfgdfg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.39 | en1gma | themill, i reading it but dont understand it |
| 18:03.42 | en1gma | i see lock |
| 18:03.46 | en1gma | read only |
| 18:03.55 | gffdgdfgdfgdfg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:04.27 | en1gma | i had installed lenny off the DVD awhile back,,,,i thought i updated to squeeze long time ago |
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| 18:04.49 | en1gma | i thought i been running squeeze over a month |
| 18:05.02 | soopos | Titan8990_: Thank you very much! "startx -- :1" solves the problem, while ctrl+alt+f8 keeps saying that "checking battery state". |
| 18:05.05 | kombi_ | "Timezone database is corrupt" <- what do i do? |
| 18:05.14 | themill | en1gma: You still have synaptic open, don't you? |
| 18:05.20 | en1gma | oops |
| 18:05.24 | themill | ... |
| 18:06.05 | en1gma | themill, http://pastebin.com/d3bc90d9a |
| 18:06.10 | Titan8990_ | I was under the impression that even something like squeeze would not get an upgrade to a different version of libc6... when you do that in gentoo it requires you recompile *all* your packages |
| 18:06.44 | zek_ | Im trying to compile alsa from src and I have an error when using ./configure ... The file /include/linux/version.h does not exist. where is that file on debian systems? |
| 18:07.01 | dondelelcaro | Titan8990_: nope; we upgrade versions of libc6 all the time |
| 18:07.18 | en1gma | when i do that system>shutdown from gnome....it always makes me login then i have to do System>Shutdown again and it works.....i also used to have 2 different grubs after i updated |
| 18:07.28 | en1gma | someone helped me get rid of the first grub |
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| 18:08.23 | en1gma | themill, note: that pastebin is asking my a y/n question |
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| 18:09.31 | en1gma | should i hit y or no |
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| 18:09.55 | themill | en1gma: do you want to remove all those packages? |
| 18:10.30 | jochar | hi. how do i get my hdds to spin down on inactivity? |
| 18:10.55 | wp | 'park'? ;) |
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| 18:12.07 | jochar | park? |
| 18:12.32 | soopos | I have 2 Ubuntu's at two run levels. One is crashing and taking all my memory. How can you kill the crashing Ubuntu in the second Ubuntu? |
| 18:12.47 | Titan8990_ | !ubuntu |
| 18:12.48 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 18:12.52 | Titan8990_ | soopos, you ask #ubuntu |
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| 18:17.17 | Gm4n | is growing mdadm raid5 safe if one of the drives is somewhat questionable? (ie, will I lose data if a drive dies?) |
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| 18:18.32 | dutchfish | Gm4n, tiy can loose data on a degraded raid when growing/shrinking |
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| 18:18.52 | Gm4n | tiy? |
| 18:19.01 | Gm4n | the raid isn't degraded, but one of the disks in there isn't in the best health right now |
| 18:19.30 | Titan8990_ | raid5 should be able to handle the loss of a single disc just fine. not sure how resizing plays a role however |
| 18:20.02 | dutchfish | Gm4n, then no, this should be safe then, but when it dies on expanding, and there is no hot-spare, you can loose data |
| 18:20.08 | infernix | what's the best way to check in a script whether if package 'xyz' is installed? i could do dpkg -l | " grep "^ii" | awk $voodoo, but thats not too robust |
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| 18:20.29 | Gm4n | dutchfish: so what you're saying is if the drive dies AND something goes wrong, I'm in trouble? |
| 18:20.55 | dutchfish | Gm4n, no only while expanding |
| 18:21.10 | dutchfish | Gm4n, and thats a slim change only |
| 18:21.14 | Gm4n | so if the drive dies while expanding, I'm in trouble? |
| 18:21.17 | themill | infernix: are you actually wanting to check that the functionality is installed rather than the package? |
| 18:21.40 | dutchfish | Gm4n, no, you have a slim change to get in trouble when it dies while expanding |
| 18:21.40 | Gm4n | well, this drive has failed out of the raid 3 times already. I did a firmware update, and it seems to be better, but it's an old seagate, and I'm still a little skeptical of it |
| 18:21.47 | Gm4n | ah, perfect |
| 18:21.47 | kombi_ | "Timezone database corrupt" anyone? I seem stuck here.. |
| 18:21.53 | Gm4n | so slim * slim = super slim :P |
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| 18:23.28 | kombi_ | http://pastebin.se/199842 |
| 18:24.04 | infernix | themill: for now just the package; what do you mean by functionality check, is there something i don't know about? :) |
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| 18:24.22 | vimpulse | hi all. Unanswered crosspaste from #linux: Will this work to forcibly kill Xorg? pkill -n X || sleep 5s && pkill -9 -n X |
| 18:24.42 | themill | infernix: well, if you wanted to know if python were installed, you'd just [ -x /usr/bin/python ] rather than seeing wether the python package was installed. |
| 18:26.12 | infernix | themill: doh :) no, i'll do package checks :) i'll just do an if [ "`dpkg -s $i | grep '^Status' | awk '{print $4}'`" == "installed" ]; then |
| 18:26.20 | themill | infernix: but if you really want to check the package, if [ dpkg-query --show $package ]; then ... ; fi. |
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| 18:27.13 | zek152 | Where is autoconf.h in debian by default? i am trying to compile a program and it cant find it |
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| 18:27.22 | valdyn | !installit |
| 18:27.23 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 18:27.33 | valdyn | !tell zek152 -about search |
| 18:28.56 | kombi_ | anyone, what's in /usr/share/zoneinfo? how are files in there generated? |
| 18:28.58 | dutchfish | zek152, libzzip-dev |
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| 18:32.32 | dutchfish | kombi_, man tzfile ? |
| 18:32.41 | en1gma | themill, do i need to remove all those packages |
| 18:32.55 | themill | en1gma: do you want to remove all those packages? |
| 18:33.10 | en1gma | is it required to be fully updated to squeeze |
| 18:33.32 | kombi_ | package tzdata not installed <- did I miss something? |
| 18:33.50 | en1gma | and for the update manager to stop telling my there are alot of updates everytime i restart |
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| 18:33.59 | zek152 | dutchfish, that didnt fix it. I am trying to install alsa from source and during the ./configure program it says checking for kernel linux/autoconf.h... no |
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| 18:34.24 | dutchfish | zek152, you installed the kernel headers? |
| 18:34.29 | kombi_ | apt-get install tzdata threatens to remove everything... weired |
| 18:34.32 | en1gma | i hut Y |
| 18:34.35 | en1gma | hit* |
| 18:34.41 | zek152 | dutchfish, i thougth they were installed. |
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| 18:35.06 | dutchfish | zek152, and the right one for you curent kernel that is |
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| 18:35.39 | dutchfish | zek152, have you tried m-a for the alsa modules? |
| 18:35.54 | dondelelcaro | I'm going to be removing about 67 lines of bans; I strongly suggest you /ignore #debian MODES; or whatever your client's equivalent is |
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| 18:36.11 | zek152 | dutchfish, what do you mean "m-a" |
| 18:36.17 | dutchfish | !m-a |
| 18:36.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant . Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/. |
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| 18:37.07 | dondelelcaro | ubanning begins; /ignore #debian MODES is your friend. |
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| 18:38.15 | zek152 | dutchfish, why does debian need my cdrom to install the headers? |
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| 18:38.28 | dutchfish | zek152, a sec |
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| 18:39.24 | jhutchins_lt | What's the current equivalent of the base-config command? |
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| 18:39.35 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: to accomplish what? |
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| 18:40.11 | LetTheLosersFail | Thanks. |
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| 18:41.24 | dutchfish | zek152, you probably have the cdrom in the source repo list (/etc/apt/sources.lst) |
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| 18:42.11 | zek152 | dutchfish, ok. during the unbans i was able to get it installed. it looks like i will be able to compile it now |
| 18:42.17 | zek152 | dutchfish, thanks for your help |
| 18:42.23 | dutchfish | zek152, yw |
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| 18:42.50 | Anura | how do i automatically sync clock to a time server |
| 18:43.01 | dutchfish | Anura, ntp |
| 18:43.12 | kombi_ | rdate |
| 18:43.29 | LetTheLosersFail | How small can I get a Debian install down to? I need to remove exim4 |
| 18:43.29 | themill | !ntp |
| 18:43.30 | dpkg | The Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. See also <set time>. |
| 18:43.50 | Anura | bash: ntp: command not found |
| 18:43.54 | Anura | package ntp is installed |
| 18:43.54 | LetTheLosersFail | But first, I need to fix my time zone to offset 0 from CMOS time. How? |
| 18:43.56 | Anura | so you're leaving something out |
| 18:44.10 | Anura | No manual entry for ntp |
| 18:44.12 | themill | Anura: you don't run it yourself, it's a daemon |
| 18:44.33 | LetTheLosersFail | BIOS time is correct; Debian time is wrong because it is EST |
| 18:44.33 | xsappyx | a recent squeeze update rev'd nano from 2.1.11-3 to 2.1.99pre1-1 and now scrolling works differently.. the text above the cursor continues to scroll up.. and i cant figure out which option disables this new behavior (smooth didnt work). any ideas? |
| 18:44.34 | Anura | so u cant tell me to man it either |
| 18:44.34 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, ~120mb stable, look alsa at embdebian if install base must be as small as possible |
| 18:44.34 | Anura | oh well... my time is in correct |
| 18:44.34 | Anura | i jsut need to set it to correct time kthx |
| 18:44.36 | Anura | so obviously i need to run it myself |
| 18:44.43 | Anura | it just needs to work, only requirement |
| 18:44.51 | LetTheLosersFail | How to set time zone to GMT+0? |
| 18:45.06 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, dpg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 18:45.07 | Anura | now that we got the incorrect info out of the way |
| 18:45.14 | LetTheLosersFail | Thanks |
| 18:45.14 | Anura | can soemone tell me the correct answer |
| 18:45.24 | Anura | i jsut want to set the hw clock to the correct time by syncing to a timeserver |
| 18:45.26 | LetTheLosersFail | Now, I just need to nuke exim4. Any ideas? |
| 18:45.29 | themill | Anura: have you verified that the ntp daemon is running? |
| 18:45.30 | Anura | and not by entering the date manually |
| 18:45.42 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, you want postfix? |
| 18:46.15 | abrotman | Anura: aptitude install ntp |
| 18:46.15 | LetTheLosersFail | I want neither. |
| 18:46.15 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, or none at all? |
| 18:46.15 | Anura | Starting NTP server: ntpd/lib/lsb/init-functions: line 184: 3477 Terminated lockfile-touch $LOCKFILE |
| 18:46.15 | Anura | when i try to start ntp service |
| 18:46.15 | iceroot | LetTheLosersFail: apt-get remove --purge |
| 18:46.26 | Anura | abrotman.. um its already installed? |
| 18:46.31 | Anura | can i just get correct info plz |
| 18:46.34 | Anura | kthx |
| 18:46.37 | abrotman | that is the correct info |
| 18:46.42 | Anura | no ure being ignorant |
| 18:46.43 | Anura | as usual |
| 18:46.47 | themill | Anura: can you stop being quite so troll-like? |
| 18:46.56 | Anura | themill can you not fail? |
| 18:46.57 | Anura | kthx |
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| 18:47.02 | jhutchins_lt | What is the command to set the locale? |
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| 18:47.08 | LetTheLosersFail | None at all. apt-get remove -purge? |
| 18:47.22 | iceroot | LetTheLosersFail: --purge |
| 18:47.22 | abrotman | Anura: you should read the ntp documentation .. it will set your clock |
| 18:47.35 | LetTheLosersFail | What does that do? Remove exim4? |
| 18:47.44 | abrotman | LetTheLosersFail: man apt-get |
| 18:47.46 | iceroot | LetTheLosersFail: apt-get remove --purge exim4 |
| 18:47.48 | themill | Anura: Take a break from #debian until you are happy to actually talk to us in a civil fashion. kthx. |
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| 18:47.59 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, Exim just fills the Debian requirement for a Mail Transport Agent (MTA). Exim is the default, but you can install any other MTA (e.g. Postfix or Sendmail; try nullmailer or masqmail for minimalist MTAs) and then remove exim. |
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| 18:48.18 | didel0815 | LetTheLosersFail: Try aptitude purge exim4 |
| 18:48.20 | LetTheLosersFail | I'm going to go without a MTA at all for this machine. |
| 18:48.28 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, gl |
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| 18:48.44 | LetTheLosersFail | Okay, done. |
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| 18:48.48 | simonrvn | watches as LetTheLosersFail's cron dies a horrible death |
| 18:48.51 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, i meant its part of the base install |
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| 18:49.02 | abrotman | just let him break his system |
| 18:49.03 | themill | LetTheLosersFail: that's harder to do than it sounds. /msg dpkg why an mta |
| 18:49.03 | LetTheLosersFail | simorvn: I have no use for cron on this machine |
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| 18:49.32 | LetTheLosersFail | Okay, I ran apt-get remove --purge exim4 and everything seems fine. |
| 18:50.25 | LetTheLosersFail | Did I break anything? |
| 18:50.41 | hark | LetTheLosersFail: that only removes the metapackage. you'll still have exim installed |
| 18:50.49 | LetTheLosersFail | I give up. |
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| 18:51.20 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, plz rereaf what has been said |
| 18:51.24 | LetTheLosersFail | I don't have time to do all this work, including removing glibc today. I'll leave the system alone for tomorrow. |
| 18:51.28 | dutchfish | s/rereaf/reread |
| 18:51.33 | LetTheLosersFail | Ah, I see. |
| 18:51.33 | abrotman | YHBT |
| 18:51.46 | Titan8990_ | LetTheLosersFail, remove glibc? |
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| 18:52.23 | LetTheLosersFail | Titan8990_: Yeah, my /sbin/init doesn't depend on it, nor will my custom toolchain |
| 18:52.49 | themill | LetTheLosersFail: sounds fun. Please don't ask questions about it in #debian as it's no longer debian. |
| 18:52.55 | LetTheLosersFail | I implemented my totally non-standard C lib. =) |
| 18:53.21 | LetTheLosersFail | themill: k, I'll stick with asking questions my non-abused Debian machines. |
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| 18:53.56 | LetTheLosersFail | I bought 6 GB of RAM because free() doesn't work very well. ;) |
| 18:53.58 | dutchfish | LetTheLosersFail, http://www.emdebian.org/ |
| 18:53.58 | tdn | How can I make a bootable SD-card from a Debian netinst ISO? |
| 18:54.17 | dondelelcaro | tdn: same way you make a bootable usbkey |
| 18:54.18 | LetTheLosersFail | tdn: From what OS? |
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| 18:54.31 | dondelelcaro | tdn: the install guide explains how to do this |
| 18:54.34 | tdn | LetTheLosersFail, debian. |
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| 18:54.47 | LetTheLosersFail | tdn: Well, I use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ on Windows |
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| 18:55.13 | tdn | dondelelcaro, hmm... Isn't there any tools for this? Last time I tried creating a bootable USB thumdrive with Debian install docs, I did not succeed. :( |
| 18:55.14 | LetTheLosersFail | tdn: You can also use unetbootin on Linux, see the Linux download page at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:55.15 | dutchfish | tdn, http://live.debian.net/manual/html/ch03s03.html#id533300 |
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| 18:55.28 | LetTheLosersFail | tdn: Or follow the howto. |
| 18:55.41 | LetTheLosersFail | Personally, I prefer getting laid over reading howtos. ;) |
| 18:55.50 | abrotman | tdn: it works perfectly fine .. i've done it multiple times it's really pretty easy |
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| 18:56.05 | LetTheLosersFail | unetbootin is a tool, though. |
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| 18:56.18 | dondelelcaro | tdn: it's really simple. You create the fat32 partition; put the kernel and initrd, set up a syslinux.cfg, and drop in an iso, and you're done. |
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| 18:56.36 | dondelelcaro | tdn: what most people screw up is they try to do something complicated with the .iso |
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| 18:59.42 | xsappyx | once more: a recent squeeze update rev'd nano from 2.1.11-3 to 2.1.99pre1-1 and now scrolling works differently.. the text above the cursor continues to scroll up.. and i cant figure out which option disables this new behavior (smooth didnt work). any ideas? |
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| 19:00.46 | catsup | wow, people actually use nano? |
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| 19:01.19 | dondelelcaro | xsappyx: and you've tried downgrading, and it works in the old fashion? |
| 19:01.27 | Titan8990_ | catsup, nano is excellent for simple config file edits |
| 19:01.41 | catsup | no it isn't |
| 19:01.58 | catsup | it's *adequate* for simple config file edits |
| 19:02.11 | dondelelcaro | it's the default editor, so some people use it. but it's totally not a useful discussion to have out here. |
| 19:02.31 | Titan8990_ | I don't feel the need to fire up emacs just to change a couple values |
| 19:02.32 | xsappyx | dondelelcaro: no, good call.. ill give that a shot and see if the old behavior returns |
| 19:02.35 | Titan8990_ | !start an editor war |
| 19:02.36 | dpkg | "cat >" sucks |
| 19:02.42 | dondelelcaro | (and it's the default editor primarily because the learning curve is nearly non-existant) |
| 19:02.57 | Justin | heh |
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| 19:03.03 | catsup | Titan8990_: emacs is supposed to always be running. it's a core system process, like init. |
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| 19:03.14 | Justin | the first time I used a unix system I ended up using 'cat >' because I couldn't figure out the editors |
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| 19:03.35 | xsappyx | nano makes pine/alpine users happy too |
| 19:03.41 | Titan8990_ | catsup, hehe, they are really pushing that with version 23 and the server daemon (that i haven't messed with much yet) |
| 19:03.57 | catsup | oh i hadn't heard about that |
| 19:04.06 | catsup | but the emacsclient has been around for a long time |
| 19:04.29 | catsup | actually i stopped using emacs because i find that it stresses my fingers more than vi |
| 19:04.34 | jj_joey | ive added backports to my source.list how do i search for pakages like apt-cache search ? ....or does that command work for bot when ive apt-get updated ? |
| 19:04.36 | catsup | even though it has more features :\ |
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| 19:05.02 | dondelelcaro | jj_joey: yes, just apt-get update, and it'll work |
| 19:05.16 | Titan8990_ | catsup, your right, it was in earlier versions... "For emacsclient to work, you need an already running Emacs with a server." from 22 man page |
| 19:05.20 | raboof | is there a simple way to recompile a library that ships with Debian to include debugging symbols? (in this case: libjack) |
| 19:05.30 | catsup | [and then vimacs has the problem of lacking vim features] |
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| 19:05.39 | simonrvn | raboof: install the -dbg package |
| 19:05.43 | jj_joey | dondelelcaro, you got a link to using sources with apt ..im new to debian |
| 19:06.04 | raboof | simonrvn: there doesn't appear to be one |
| 19:06.13 | dondelelcaro | jj_joey: man 5 sources.list |
| 19:06.18 | catsup | Titan8990_: oh ok. i was thinking an actual daemon like process. because emacsclient can just open up a window in the existing emacs, it's not like a real client/server architecture more like remote control |
| 19:06.23 | jj_joey | ok ty |
| 19:06.58 | simonrvn | raboof: indeed, though it's simple to do |
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| 19:07.30 | catsup | hey does anyone know if there's a squeeze debian-live iso out there? |
| 19:07.37 | bart504 | hi guys, which file in /var/log/ should I look at to try to determine why my server lost its internet connection for a few moments earlier today? |
| 19:07.37 | catsup | other than grml |
| 19:08.16 | raboof | simonrvn: any docs I could follow? I guess I should 'apt-get source' libjack0, then edit come configuration somewhere and run a couple of the dh_* tools - but figuring this out by trial and error is going to take a while ;) |
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| 19:09.15 | catsup | bart504: you're not likely to find that anywhere :\ |
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| 19:09.35 | dutchfish | bart504, you might try simple-ccd |
| 19:09.49 | dutchfish | bart504, and build one yourself like i did |
| 19:09.54 | abrotman | INeedDebianHelp: you're still banned |
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| 19:10.35 | catsup | oh, so i heard that enouf got banned. wtf? enouf should be unbanned! |
| 19:10.37 | bart504 | catsup, dutchfish: But can I at least find a record that the ethernet connection was indeed lost? |
| 19:10.45 | dutchfish | bart504, error i meant simple-cdd |
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| 19:11.02 | catsup | bart504: try kern.log |
| 19:11.24 | bart504 | thanks |
| 19:11.24 | dutchfish | catsup, error i meant simple-cdd |
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| 19:11.32 | catsup | something like Dec 4 11:14:47 localhost kernel: [10375140.000472] e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link down |
| 19:11.39 | pickcoder | enouf banner? |
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| 19:12.14 | pickcoder | er banned |
| 19:12.18 | catsup | ya |
| 19:12.22 | catsup | he said so in #irssi |
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| 19:13.04 | catsup | not many people know their shit like enouf does. banning him is a huge mistake. |
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| 19:17.08 | Titan8990_ | catsup, I don't know why he got banned but just because a person is knowledgeable doesn't mean they don't have to follow the rules |
| 19:17.16 | Titan8990_ | the ops here are pretty lenient |
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| 19:17.59 | craigevil | he usually gets banned for telling one of the ops to f-off, happens every couple of months |
| 19:18.22 | catsup | well the ops should f-off |
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| 19:18.52 | jay | yeah ops, f off |
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| 19:19.04 | abrotman | !ot |
| 19:19.04 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
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| 19:19.37 | catsup | abrotman: do you mean to suggest that meta-discussion is off-topic ? |
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| 19:20.00 | catsup | i mean: discussion about #debian itself [ops, bans, etc.] |
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| 19:20.28 | abrotman | move it to #debian-offtopic |
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| 19:21.22 | catsup | craigevil isn't there |
| 19:21.36 | abrotman | so ask him to join you there |
| 19:21.38 | jmarsden | catsup: It's stretching things quite far to suggest that <catsup> well the ops should f-off is appropriate meta-discussion about #debian :) And craigevil could be there if he wanted to. |
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| 19:22.13 | catsup | jmarsden: what? are you not aware of the context? |
| 19:22.21 | catsup | 14:17 <craigevil> he usually gets banned for telling one of the ops to f-off, happens every couple of months |
| 19:22.31 | dondelelcaro | catsup: it's off topic here, please stop or take it elsewhere |
| 19:22.32 | abrotman | move it to #debian-offtopic |
| 19:22.44 | catsup | lol jmarsden isn't there |
| 19:22.55 | abrotman | that doesn't make it appropriate here |
| 19:23.08 | dondelelcaro | catsup: if they're not there, then perhaps they're not interested in offtopic discussions. that's perfectly ok. |
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| 19:23.30 | catsup | dondelelcaro: are you paying attention? i was directly responding to what jmarsden said |
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| 19:23.37 | abrotman | catsup: really, move on |
| 19:23.45 | catsup | dondelelcaro: you should be directing your 'off-topic' comments to jmarsden |
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| 19:25.05 | tdn | dondelelcaro, ok. |
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| 19:25.11 | pickcoder | touchy people today |
| 19:25.17 | unlofl | I'm setting up several new production systems running debian lenny with xen, each of which hosts several virtual machines. Each dom0/domu has two network interfaces, configured with the default bridge scripts. One switch is connected to the internet, the other is for our internal traffic only. |
| 19:25.43 | pickcoder | what happened to the "ops here are pretty lenient".... |
| 19:25.55 | unlofl | now, the more complicated part. I'm setting up a VPN into the private network on our servers (eth1 on the dom0 and domu, set to 10.0.0.0/24 range) |
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| 19:26.34 | unlofl | from a security point of view, am I better off running the vpn server on another domu and keeping the dom0 system configs very minimal, or should I just go for the simpler approach and put my openvpn server on the dom0? |
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| 19:26.49 | cdog69 | I am attempting to setup virtual hosting on my apache web server. The sites-available file is as follows: http://pastebin.com/m7fc135bb |
| 19:26.51 | cdog69 | When you navigate to http://nkaddweb.nkadd.org/, you can clearly see that the site is not resolving to the document root that I defined in the conf file. Can anyone tell me what I have missed? |
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| 19:27.03 | dutchfish | unlofl, i woul dnot recommend doing that in dom0 |
| 19:27.05 | Titan8990_ | this is nice to see on a fresh package install from a debian repo...pc-tesla ~ # ddcprobe |
| 19:27.05 | Titan8990_ | Segmentation fault |
| 19:27.05 | pickcoder | unlofl: the packets should be terminated from the VPN at the first point, IMO |
| 19:27.06 | dondelelcaro | unlofl: I'd run it on a domU, and have almost nothing on the dom0 |
| 19:27.20 | pickcoder | dutchfish: why? |
| 19:27.57 | dutchfish | pickcoder, if you ask this q, it means you dont understand paravirtualisation |
| 19:28.12 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: because openvpn often runs as root, and you'd rather not have your entire stack taken over. |
| 19:28.16 | dutchfish | pickcoder, plz, the simple answer is dont |
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| 19:28.44 | unlofl | yes, the tiniest atack area possible on the dom0 makes sense to me |
| 19:28.59 | pickcoder | dom0 is the host? |
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| 19:29.07 | dutchfish | pickcoder, yes |
| 19:29.15 | pickcoder | not the virtual host |
| 19:29.48 | unlofl | dondelelcaro: why should it be in a domu? just because openvpn poses a security risk, even if small and shouldn't be in a possition to pwn all my virtual systems? |
| 19:29.55 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: right |
| 19:29.59 | dondelelcaro | s/dutchfish/unlofl/ |
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| 19:30.00 | unlofl | I've run lots of debian boxes, this is my first time deploying xen if you can't tell :-/ |
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| 19:30.10 | unlofl | thanks for the input |
| 19:30.17 | pickcoder | I just don't get that |
| 19:30.27 | dondelelcaro | unlofl: it's not a huge deal, because openvpn is pretty heavily used and checked, but that's where I'd run it |
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| 19:30.38 | unlofl | the dom0 is the host, if its compromised you loose it and all its virtual machines (domu) |
| 19:30.42 | pickcoder | I'd rather have routing control on the host for the virtuals |
| 19:31.13 | pickcoder | so you'd need a VPN service for every virtual if you needed access |
| 19:31.17 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: it doesn't have anything to do with the routing control; it's only about the openvpn server |
| 19:31.20 | pickcoder | that's a lot of key management |
| 19:31.23 | unlofl | pickcoder: nah, thats no good, then you have to reconfigure when you move virtual machines around :) |
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| 19:31.40 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: and since the virtuals are all on the same internal subnet, so you don't need multiple ones |
| 19:31.40 | unlofl | pickcoder: no, it will be one vpn server for all 8 of our domu |
| 19:31.57 | unlofl | pickcoder: its still a virtual private "network" of multiple systems, even if they're virtual |
| 19:32.06 | pickcoder | why would they be on the same subnet? Is that secure? |
| 19:32.30 | unlofl | pickcoder: each server in this setup has 2 interfaces, one goes to the internet, one goes to our private lan |
| 19:32.42 | unlofl | at this point, the dom0 systems will be almost entirely blackholed |
| 19:32.51 | unlofl | which seems like the way to go |
| 19:32.53 | pickcoder | ok |
| 19:33.30 | cdog69 | I am attempting to setup virtual hosting on my apache web server. The sites-available file is as follows: http://pastebin.com/m7fc135bb |
| 19:33.32 | cdog69 | When you navigate to http://nkaddweb.nkadd.org/, you can clearly see that the site is not resolving to the document root that I defined in the conf file. Can anyone tell me what I have missed? |
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| 19:34.31 | pickcoder | cdog69: there are no other files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ ? |
| 19:35.07 | NoCode | Is there anyway to get the 2.6.32 kernel in Squeeze? |
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| 19:35.36 | Titan8990_ | cdog69, did you remember to reload the webserver after you edited the config file? |
| 19:35.39 | abrotman | NoCode: compile it yourself |
| 19:35.50 | cdog69 | pickcoder: yes, the 000-default site is, i assume i need to disable that? |
| 19:36.13 | cdog69 | Titan8990_>: yes I did |
| 19:36.38 | Titan8990_ | cdog69, yes |
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| 19:36.47 | dutchfish | NoCode, you can compile it yourself |
| 19:36.55 | pickcoder | cdog69: yes.. a2dissite |
| 19:37.02 | dutchfish | !tell NoCode about kp-mantra |
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| 19:37.33 | pickcoder | you should add NameVirtualHost *:80 to the top of that if you plan on using name vhosts |
| 19:37.46 | cdog69 | Beautiful, thank youall! |
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| 19:38.05 | pickcoder | the first listed vhost will be the default if no name matches |
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| 19:39.28 | Titan8990_ | pickcoder, first listed? how does that work with split config files? |
| 19:40.01 | Titan8990_ | pickcoder, alphabetical order of the config file name? |
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| 19:44.47 | pickcoder | order of inclusion. I think it is based on filesystem order. |
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| 19:45.46 | pickcoder | apache2ctl -S will show the order |
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| 19:47.56 | pickcoder | hmm.. actually on my setup it's by alpha-numeric IP:port |
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| 19:48.09 | dondelelcaro | Titan8990_: that's why the default one is named 0_default |
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| 19:48.28 | Titan8990_ | dondelelcaro, makes sense |
| 19:48.35 | pickcoder | but I'm not using name vhosts |
| 19:49.01 | dondelelcaro | yeah, this is only for namevhosts |
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| 19:50.50 | sdf | Hello |
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| 19:51.28 | sdf | when i put in console export TERM=xterm the keys F1 F2 F3 etc are disable.... why??? |
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| 19:54.50 | Pendrag0n | Boy I am glad there are allot of people here, I am having a dos2unix like issue with some of my scripts, that I guess I am confused about. Some of my tools change lines of files,, but then when I open them in VIM they have ^M at the ends of all the lines |
| 19:54.50 | Pendrag0n | If I run :%s/\r/\r\n/g I end up with 2 line returns for every one, then a ^@ instead of a ^M at the end of each. The problem is solved by runing dos2unix on each file, but how do I prevent it? |
| 19:54.59 | Pendrag0n | what line return format am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:55.17 | Pendrag0n | I mean right now, I thought just putting \n at the end of each line would work... |
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| 19:55.21 | Pendrag0n | but I am doing something wrong... |
| 19:55.29 | Justin | Pendrag0n: you are putting a \r. \r is for dos. |
| 19:55.34 | Justin | stop putting \r |
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| 19:56.01 | Pendrag0n | Justin: my script doesn't put a \r in, only \n |
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| 19:56.38 | poppy_bsd | hello! why is the limit of RAM in 32-bit systems 3GB and not 4? |
| 19:57.13 | Pendrag0n | Justin: look at an example function writting one of these files: http://python.pastebin.com/m415b52c |
| 19:57.18 | Pendrag0n | but then breaking it for some reason |
| 19:57.20 | sdf | when i put in console export TERM=xterm the keys F1 F2 F3 etc are disable.... why??? |
| 19:57.39 | Pendrag0n | poppy_bsd: it depends on your OS but you can compile it to allow more RAM |
| 19:57.49 | Pendrag0n | sdf: are you using putty? |
| 19:57.56 | dutchfish | poppy_bsd, its a relic from the past; read also about BIG kernel |
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| 19:58.09 | sdf | pendrag0n no, i use ssh |
| 19:58.13 | mullein | Pendrag0n: :%s/<ctrl-v><enter>$// |
| 19:58.22 | sdf | ssh in linux console |
| 19:58.33 | Pendrag0n | can anyone look at the link I pasted and tell me why I have to always run dos2unix to get line returns right? |
| 19:58.39 | Pendrag0n | sdf: I don't know then, sorry |
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| 19:58.43 | Pendrag0n | mullein: huh? |
| 19:58.47 | sdf | :S |
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| 19:59.18 | mullein | Pendrag0n: that will remove the ^M properly in vim |
| 19:59.27 | Pendrag0n | o wait |
| 19:59.41 | Pendrag0n | I have the \r\n in there from an earlier attempt to fix it |
| 19:59.47 | poppy_bsd | dutchfish: BIG kernel?? |
| 19:59.52 | Pendrag0n | it still had the problem even with only the \n only |
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| 20:00.03 | Pendrag0n | and mullein, Ok, but I don't want to have to fix that each time |
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| 20:00.17 | Pendrag0n | I want them always right, I don't want to use a bandaid, i want to fix the source of the problem |
| 20:00.19 | Pendrag0n | but thanks |
| 20:00.23 | mullein | Pendrag0n: you and also :set ff=dos |
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| 20:00.59 | dutchfish | poppy_bsd, http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450 |
| 20:01.00 | Pendrag0n | mullein: that does fix it in vim, but the files are still technically wrong, I want to fix the source of the problem |
| 20:01.25 | Pendrag0n | http://python.pastebin.com/d149c82f0 That is the file now |
| 20:01.46 | Pendrag0n | and if I take a file, run my copyright tool on it, then go to open it is is all jacked up |
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| 20:03.04 | dutchfish | !tell poppy_bsd about PAE |
| 20:03.05 | fastttputy | hello guys, is there any technology tat allow asia and europe poeple to get into my server with the lowest reponse time possible? i heard about a multi gateway interface.. but is there any hosting offering this server online? |
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| 20:07.50 | buckfast | i hit ctrl+a S in screen and now the window doesnt respond |
| 20:08.05 | rlc | hello everybody, one of my friend come to see me with his linux testing debian laptop because he had lost his lvm config after he try to install windows7 over debian. He told me he try to reinstall from the netinstall and rebuild a dm-0 with the same key he had before without formating the partition. The problem is now that I can't find any info about his lvm conf in dm-0. Is there any way to recover the lvm or all is lost forever ? I strat the syst |
| 20:08.07 | Pendrag0n | buckfast: hit CTRL+Q |
| 20:08.08 | Pendrag0n | that will fix it |
| 20:08.13 | mullein | Pendrag0n, are you using python on windows? |
| 20:08.16 | Pendrag0n | or CTRL+q |
| 20:08.26 | buckfast | Pendrag0n: thanks, what was the problem there |
| 20:08.28 | Pendrag0n | mullein: I use python everywhere, Windows, Mac and Linu |
| 20:08.45 | Pendrag0n | I don't know, it just took me forever to figure out how to fix that myself |
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| 20:09.43 | mullein | Pendrag0n, i ask because python on windows distinguishes between binary and text mode, and will do behind the scenes manipulation of your file unless you open it with 'b' appended to the mode |
| 20:09.57 | Pendrag0n | o in this case it is debian |
| 20:10.01 | mullein | which sounds like your issue, except that presumably it is debian |
| 20:10.01 | Pendrag0n | that's why I am in this room |
| 20:10.20 | Pendrag0n | I figured out that if I run :%s/\r$//g it fixes it |
| 20:10.26 | Pendrag0n | so I am trying to do that now in a function in my tool |
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| 20:10.38 | Pendrag0n | contents.replace("\r$",'',) |
| 20:11.14 | Justin | Pendrag0n: you are putting a \r. \r is for dos. |
| 20:11.16 | Justin | stop putting \r |
| 20:11.20 | fastttputy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.31 | ranix | Justin: how can you have a newline without a carriage return |
| 20:11.32 | Pendrag0n | I said REMOVE, not add |
| 20:11.40 | ranix | ;) |
| 20:11.41 | Justin | ranix: because unix isn't dos |
| 20:11.42 | Justin | FFS |
| 20:11.42 | Pendrag0n | I never put on in there in the first place |
| 20:11.53 | Justin | Pendrag0n: # |
| 20:11.54 | Justin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.56 | Justin | wtf is that then? |
| 20:12.07 | Pendrag0n | justin: http://python.pastebin.com/d149c82f0 I siad that was a typo |
| 20:12.07 | ranix | why don't you just tr -d "\r" ? |
| 20:12.10 | Pendrag0n | look at the new link |
| 20:12.21 | ranix | or dos2unix |
| 20:12.35 | ranix | it's in the package tofrodos |
| 20:12.52 | Pendrag0n | because I am writting a tool, and I don't want the tool to depend on 3rd party dos2unix, or to depend on the user havning to do a find replace IF they are using vim |
| 20:12.59 | Pendrag0n | I just want to fix the problem at the source |
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| 20:13.13 | zek152 | is there an easy command to check to see if my microphone input is being inputed/captured by ALSA>? |
| 20:13.18 | ranix | Pendrag0n: a user who is using multiple operating systems should be assumed to be competent enough to know the differences between them |
| 20:13.20 | Pendrag0n | I know all about dos2unix and unix2dos, and if it were built into debian, than I would consider it, |
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| 20:13.41 | Pendrag0n | the tool should be able to do that for the user, it shouldn't be, run my tool, then run some other tool |
| 20:13.43 | ranix | Pendrag0n: if you need something builtin use tr or sed |
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| 20:13.50 | Pendrag0n | exactly |
| 20:13.55 | Pendrag0n | I am trying to fix it in the tool |
| 20:14.06 | ranix | oh ok. I thought there was some kind of problem |
| 20:14.11 | Pendrag0n | I was confused why the heck my tool only writes \n and then the output was getting \r's in it |
| 20:14.13 | peteweez | Hey anybody here know why I can open my LUKS-encrypted flash drive on the command line via cryptsetup but GNOME's popup password entry dialog always fails, even if I type the correct password? |
| 20:14.16 | peteweez | Could it have something to do with my 40-character password? Is that not supported by GNOME? |
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| 20:18.09 | mullein | Pendrag0n, is it just the nhandle.write("...\n") lines that give \r\n? or does the content returned from prettyCopyright also have \r\n? |
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| 20:21.23 | nader | progress bar in cp any idea ? |
| 20:21.39 | WorldBFree | so i just installed a speaker system in my office. we have about 500gbs of music on a drive. i have 17 people who work in the office... |
| 20:21.49 | WorldBFree | im trying to think of a creative way to have people select music |
| 20:22.10 | abrotman | mpd ? |
| 20:22.10 | WorldBFree | so people only hear stuff the office wants to hear |
| 20:22.23 | WorldBFree | some sort of voting system |
| 20:25.44 | rlc | nobody has an idea about this problem ? I have done a quick search with google without success. |
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| 20:26.39 | test | how can I disable ctrl-s lock in xterm? |
| 20:27.26 | MrMoto | how can i run F4 F3 F2 F1 key in xterm :S ???? |
| 20:27.38 | MrMoto | because in xterm it isnt run.... |
| 20:28.22 | rlc | I read something about reading the first sectors of the disk. Vim can edit binary content but can I use it to read sectors of hdd ? |
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| 20:30.05 | jmarsden | Guest50830: stty ixoff # may help... not really an xterm thing, more a tty thing. |
| 20:30.13 | qbwdp | allo allo |
| 20:30.20 | dutchfish | rlc, http://packages.debian.org/nl/sid/lde |
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| 20:35.40 | rlc | dutchfish thank you for this tool :) |
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| 20:37.08 | Pendrag0n | Ah I figured out my problem |
| 20:37.29 | Pendrag0n | instead of handle = open(fi,'w') I used handle = open(fi,'wb') and it all works |
| 20:37.38 | Pendrag0n | no dos2unix screwups |
| 20:38.11 | Justin | no, that creates a different kind of screwups |
| 20:38.16 | dutchfish | rlc, yw |
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| 20:40.09 | S1kx | http://pastie.org/private/tarxbztjeztamncihyaya my putty log when connecting to my debian box... ive tried it with 200 different ways to make key authentication work but i'm always getting "Server refused our key" |
| 20:40.41 | Justin | S1kx: /msg dpgk debug sshd |
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| 20:40.50 | Justin | er, dpkg |
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| 20:42.28 | cdog69 | concerning subversion and repository directories... does it matter where I put the initial repository directory? I currently have me web sites sitting in /var/www/, would it be ok to house the repos at /var/repos? |
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| 20:43.05 | S1kx | Justin: thanks, http://pastie.org/private/p1d9saamejfspwyhnlwqsa |
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| 20:43.41 | Titan8990_ | cdog69, i don't see anything wrong with that |
| 20:43.47 | Justin | S1kx: looks like your keys are just fucked |
| 20:43.54 | Justin | S1kx: how did you copy the key to the server? |
| 20:44.06 | amoe | Hi, should /etc/profile be read by the shell when I ssh into a stock debian machine? |
| 20:44.09 | __v | hi, is there a way to start a service (in that case Apache) with a different priority? Like `nice -10 /etc/init.d/apache2 start`, but without specifying `nice -10 ...` all the time |
| 20:44.23 | amoe | I thought since it's a login shell it will read /etc/profile, but it doesn't seem to |
| 20:44.23 | S1kx | Justin: this time i have simply edited it with vim |
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| 20:44.31 | S1kx | its chowned to root and chmod 700 |
| 20:44.35 | Justin | S1kx: no |
| 20:44.35 | amoe | shell is bash |
| 20:44.40 | Titan8990_ | S1kx, you manually typed in the public rsa key? |
| 20:44.41 | Justin | delete it and just run ssh-copy-id |
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| 20:44.56 | S1kx | ive copied it and pasted it in vim with :set paste on |
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| 20:45.12 | Justin | no |
| 20:45.18 | S1kx | tried both, generating the key on the server and copying with with copy and also generating it locally with puttygen and copying it over then |
| 20:45.18 | tarik | Hi all |
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| 20:45.32 | Justin | ugh windows crap |
| 20:45.58 | S1kx | ok ill try generating the key on the server again then |
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| 20:48.09 | S1kx | is the user itself supposed to own the file or root? |
| 20:48.15 | Justin | the user |
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| 20:49.11 | S1kx | .ssh-folder too? |
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| 20:49.30 | Titan8990_ | S1kx, in general, a user should own everything in his home directory |
| 20:49.35 | S1kx | alright |
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| 20:50.38 | tarik | I've queqtion about (Apache2/Openssl ) i'm using lenny 5.0 |
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| 20:51.19 | tarik | I got the following error message : Restarting web server: apache2 ... waiting (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:443 |
| 20:51.36 | tarik | and when i make netstat -nlt|grep 443 |
| 20:51.39 | Titan8990_ | tarik, something is already bound to port 443... netstat -l |
| 20:51.58 | tarik | i can't see any procce running at this port |
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| 20:53.40 | dutchfish | tarik, 0.0.0.0 means every ip, narrow it down to the ip of the adapter |
| 20:53.44 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# netstat -lnt|grep 443 |
| 20:53.46 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# |
| 20:53.48 | S1kx | i got it working now :DDDD thank you! <3 |
| 20:54.09 | Justin | tarik: did you say "Port 443" multiple times in your apache config? |
| 20:54.17 | Justin | from what I remember, doing so will cause that error |
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| 20:55.01 | tarik | dutchfish: I'm using proxmox as virtual machine |
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| 20:55.39 | tarik | so the physical machine using 443, now my problem in the geust machine |
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| 20:56.20 | dutchfish | tarik, have you tried using the explicit ip of the virtual machine? |
| 20:56.47 | dutchfish | tarik, in the apache2 config i mean |
| 20:56.55 | tarik | no |
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| 20:57.48 | tarik | the configuration of apache is ( ports.conf ==> i add Listen 443 and in virtual i add the path of my certificat ) |
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| 20:58.06 | dutchfish | tarik, that wont do |
| 20:58.32 | dutchfish | tarik, either you have to setup virtual hosting or hostig on a default ip |
| 20:58.38 | tarik | ( This configuration works fine in other physical machine ) |
| 20:58.48 | tarik | i mean configuration for apache |
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| 20:59.33 | dutchfish | tarik, and netstat -nlp does not show something bound to that port? |
| 20:59.47 | tarik | no |
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| 20:59.58 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# netstat -lnt|grep 443 |
| 21:00.00 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# |
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| 21:00.04 | tarik | nothing |
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| 21:01.09 | kephu | hi |
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| 21:01.29 | dutchfish | tarik, -nlt does not list udp ;) run it with -nlp |
| 21:01.34 | [jasper] | hej guys, how can I reload modprobe.d files? |
| 21:01.54 | kephu | I've got a fresh install of netinst-based mysql-lighttpd-php-samba server and I've been wondering, what ways can I improve the booting time |
| 21:01.54 | Gm4n | I found a tip somewhere that says changing the value in /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_min will make my raid reshape faster. True? |
| 21:02.19 | [jasper] | anyone? |
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| 21:02.21 | Gm4n | kephu: this might be cheating, but bios options? :) |
| 21:02.33 | tarik | dutchfish: nlt and nlp ==> the same , no result |
| 21:02.45 | kephu | Gm4n, it's a VM, I probably should have mentioned that ;) |
| 21:02.46 | dutchfish | scratches head |
| 21:03.18 | dutchfish | tarik, and you checked what justin suggested? |
| 21:03.33 | Gm4n | what kind of vm? My xen vms seem to boot faster than real systems |
| 21:03.58 | [jasper] | no-one here knows? |
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| 21:04.29 | tarik | dutchfish: see here |
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| 21:04.30 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# netstat -lnp|grep 443 |
| 21:04.32 | tarik | test01:/etc/apache2# |
| 21:04.48 | Gm4n | not I, [jasper] |
| 21:05.08 | Gm4n | besides the obvious answer, reboot |
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| 21:05.41 | [jasper] | reboot doesn't reload the files |
| 21:05.41 | kephu | Gm4n, it's vmware |
| 21:05.49 | [jasper] | modprobe.d needs to be reloaded I think |
| 21:05.54 | Gm4n | hmm, I'm not familiar with vmware virtual machines |
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| 21:06.08 | Gm4n | and I don't know anything about optimizing boot times either |
| 21:06.17 | Gm4n | you could look through the init scripts and see if there's anything you don't need |
| 21:06.29 | Gm4n | and watch the console on boot and see if it hangs on anything |
| 21:07.17 | [jasper] | .. |
| 21:07.18 | kephu | okay, guess I'm gonna have to look into this |
| 21:07.22 | kephu | thanks, Gm4n |
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| 21:11.29 | [jasper] | guys, can ANYONE tell me how I can reload modprobe.d files? |
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| 21:11.35 | [jasper] | so they are taking into account during boot |
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| 21:15.20 | tdn | I need to make a copy of a hard drive from a live cd. Can I just do a: dd if=/dev/sda |ssh host 'gzip > diskimage.gz' ? |
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| 21:16.00 | hark | [jasper]: modprobe.d doesn't need to be reloaded |
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| 21:16.16 | tdn | Would this produce a correct disk image that I can later extract with gunzip and then write back to the hard disk, so it will be back to how it is now? |
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| 21:16.21 | [jasper] | not even if you add a new file hark? |
| 21:16.28 | hark | yes |
| 21:17.06 | hoo-hah | any one know why laatest dovecot-common and -imapd package is broken in squeeze? I tried updating 2 nights ago, but while they're available in repo, marked for removal each itme |
| 21:17.06 | [jasper] | hark hmm? |
| 21:17.10 | [jasper] | are you sure? |
| 21:17.24 | Titan8990_ | tdn, dd is really inefficient for backup purposes and its not going to compress well at all |
| 21:17.32 | [jasper] | I added blacklist ata_generic to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ... |
| 21:17.34 | [jasper] | reboot |
| 21:17.38 | [jasper] | and it still loads ata_generi |
| 21:18.01 | hark | [jasper]: don't use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 21:18.10 | [jasper] | because? |
| 21:18.38 | hark | [jasper]: create your own file, and also /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs |
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| 21:19.23 | hark | anyway, blacklist.conf does not affect autoloading of modules by the kernel |
| 21:19.23 | Selveste1_ | Hey :) I have a motherboard with PCIe x16 slots, but I'm wondering about buying an Intel PRO/1000 2x Giga-NIC but its only PCIe x4 interface, is it possible to put it in my PCIe x16 slot ore do I have to find another NIC with PCIe x16 support |
| 21:19.39 | hark | !tell [jasper] about blacklist |
| 21:19.44 | nsadmin | wht 2d and 3d support is there for "Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD"? |
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| 21:20.09 | Gm4n | is it a problem if I set the raid speed_limit_min higher than the system can handle? |
| 21:20.10 | tdn | Titan8990_, then how should I do it? |
| 21:20.16 | tdn | Titan8990_, cat? |
| 21:20.33 | tdn | Titan8990_, can I do: cat /dev/sda |ssh host 'gzip > diskimage.gz' |
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| 21:22.39 | Titan8990_ | tdn, uhh, why not do a file backup using tar or rsync? |
| 21:22.51 | tdn | Titan8990_, I need the disk image. |
| 21:22.56 | tdn | Titan8990_, bit for bit. |
| 21:23.01 | tdn | Not filesystem. |
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| 21:23.16 | tdn | Titan8990_, as far as I know, I cannot use rsync for this. |
| 21:23.19 | Titan8990_ | tdn, why is that? |
| 21:23.21 | tdn | Maybe tar though. I dunno. |
| 21:23.31 | tdn | Titan8990_, because I need to whole image and not the filesystem on it. |
| 21:23.40 | [jasper] | guys, how can I make sure a certain module is loaded during boot? |
| 21:23.47 | tdn | Titan8990_, I need a bit for bit image, so that I can later restore the disk in the exact same state. |
| 21:23.49 | Titan8990_ | tdn, the only thing that it will lack is partition tables and MBR.... |
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| 21:24.08 | tdn | Titan8990_, yes. I know that. I need partition tables and free space as well. |
| 21:24.27 | Titan8990_ | tdn, then dd, however, I think your taking the wrong approach |
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| 21:24.53 | nsadmin | tdn: what problem are you trying to solve by imaging? |
| 21:25.20 | Titan8990_ | tdn, you are making a full-only backup that will be the same size as the entire disk you are dd-ing |
| 21:25.52 | Titan8990_ | tdn, no possibility of say, incremental backup which could reduce backup times and bandwidth beyond tremendously when comparing to sending a dd over the network |
| 21:26.10 | adb | tdn, partimage ? |
| 21:26.38 | tdn | Titan8990_, I am not trying to do a conventional backup here. I am not interested in the filesystem or files. |
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| 21:26.59 | tdn | adb, I do not know partimage. Will that be better? I am only able to read the disk from a live cd. |
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| 21:27.09 | nsadmin | timeout... no response. let him do what he wants |
| 21:27.16 | Titan8990_ | nsadmin, sounds good to me |
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| 21:28.05 | tdn | nsadmin, I am trying to take an image of a preinstalled hard drive from a netbook, before I am going to reinstall it with Debian. |
| 21:28.37 | tdn | nsadmin, I need to be able to restore the disk image bit by bit in order to get a refund for MS tax. |
| 21:28.41 | rlc | tdn use ddrescue |
| 21:28.42 | adb | tdn, see bootcd |
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| 21:29.07 | [jasper] | hark how can I make sure a module is loaded? |
| 21:29.23 | nkuttler | [jasper]: lsmod? |
| 21:29.31 | [jasper] | no, I mean during boot nkuttler |
| 21:29.33 | hark | /etc/modules |
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| 21:30.11 | nsadmin | tdn: you can probably do that as separate image files... one for MBR, one for each partition, and one for the boot loader (starting from second sector and going to about the 64th) |
| 21:30.40 | MrTorque | i search a good svn-repos browser for console which allows to check out from the interface. Any suggestions? |
| 21:30.52 | nsadmin | you can also get the partition table as a dump file from sfdisk |
| 21:30.54 | Georgius | Hello ! I have a problem after Debian upgrade from Etch to Lenny. After some days the router rebooted and stoped forwarding packets. I can ping out directly from the box, but from one network to the other it does not work. I found out that /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to zero, so I echoed there 1, but the network does not work. I edited the sysconfig. I even rebooted the box to be sure everything is re-inicialized, but it does not work :-( |
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| 21:31.53 | nsadmin | Georgius: will need a diagram (or at least accurate text description) of your net, incl. outbound router) |
| 21:32.17 | adb | hes gone .. |
| 21:32.45 | nsadmin | looky dat... you're right... |
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| 21:33.10 | dutchfish | why isnt libxklavier15 hinted in squeeze along with kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdm plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-widgets-workspace? see: http://paste.debian.net/53161/ (it makes kdm uninstall) |
| 21:33.30 | e7th04sh | hi, i ld two *.o files written in C and it produced binary, that i can't run |
| 21:33.30 | e7th04sh | basically: |
| 21:33.38 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 21:33.42 | nsadmin | an a.out? |
| 21:33.43 | e7th04sh | it says no such file or directory |
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| 21:34.00 | e7th04sh | http://pastebin.ca/1702339 |
| 21:34.04 | nsadmin | show exact command line, exact and complete message |
| 21:34.08 | nsadmin | ok I'll look |
| 21:34.14 | keith4 | what does that have to do with debian? |
| 21:34.30 | e7th04sh | i don't know what it has to do with debian |
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| 21:34.43 | e7th04sh | if i knew what is faulty, i would probably have figured it out myself with little help fro mgoogle |
| 21:34.47 | keith4 | then try #gcc, or whatever |
| 21:35.10 | e7th04sh | it's not like i am forcing you to help me |
| 21:35.31 | e7th04sh | and there is no #ld |
| 21:35.56 | tdn | adb, not gone. My newborn son was crying. Had to take him. |
| 21:36.00 | nsadmin | but there is a #gcc... having said that, I think the error indicates a lib can't load |
| 21:36.14 | e7th04sh | nsadmin a .so right? |
| 21:36.19 | keith4 | e7th04sh: either way, it's off-topic |
| 21:36.21 | tdn | rlc, I thought about using dd_rescue, but how to get that to put the destination through ssh? |
| 21:36.39 | nsadmin | yeah, probably |
| 21:36.52 | Georgius | sorry, my connection was down for a moment, can anyone help me, please ? |
| 21:36.58 | nsadmin | btw why are you linking in this way |
| 21:37.04 | nsadmin | Georgius: will need a diagram (or at least accurate text description) of your net, incl. outbound router) |
| 21:37.10 | jelly-home | tdn: not easily; rehaps using sshfs |
| 21:37.30 | MrTorque | i search a good svn-repos browser for console which allows to check out from the interface. Any suggestions? |
| 21:37.34 | ranix | if he can't understand the error to realize a library is missing he doesn't understand linking well enough to answer why he's linking a particular way |
| 21:37.35 | tdn | jelly-home, great idea. How do I get it through gzip then? |
| 21:37.50 | nsadmin | Georgius: btw, you're here... indicating you have networking somehow... explain that too |
| 21:38.06 | jelly-home | tdn: no way really |
| 21:38.14 | e7th04sh | keith4 whatever, as i said - if i knew it has more to do with gcc than debian i wouldve asked there |
| 21:38.17 | Georgius | nsadmin: i am here, because I use a backup internet connection |
| 21:38.18 | e7th04sh | keith4 i didnt, now i know |
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| 21:38.22 | e7th04sh | keith4 peace with you |
| 21:38.26 | rlc | tdn #dd_rescue /dev/sda1 - | ssh username@machineip ‘cat /datarecovery/backup.img’ |
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| 21:38.56 | nsadmin | Georgius: so you have two completely separate routers? |
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| 21:39.18 | nsadmin | but you want to use the other one... describe it |
| 21:39.25 | jhutchins | useradd or adduser? |
| 21:39.38 | nsadmin | first off... what exactly is the outbound router? |
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| 21:39.53 | Georgius | nsadmin: it is quite simple: wlan0 is "outgoing" 10.12.27.2/24, wlan1 as wireless accesspoint 10.12.27.2/25 and eth0 which is not important for now |
| 21:40.06 | Georgius | nsadmin: the configuration worked for etch without problem |
| 21:40.08 | nsadmin | jhutchins: useradd is called by adduser... useradd is more flexible but also a bit more cryptic looking. |
| 21:40.53 | Georgius | nsadmin: it is connected into freenet, which is Czech public amateur network running in 10.0.0.0/8 subnet |
| 21:40.59 | tdn | rlc, hmm... Do you mean cat > /datarecovery/backup.img? I need to redirect, right? |
| 21:41.21 | Georgius | I can ping 10.12.0.1 (for instance) from the router, but nor from computers on 10.12.26.0/24 subnet |
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| 21:42.06 | nsadmin | adduser is the usual recommendation, but it actually depends on your purpose: if you're writing a script, maybe useradd is better... if you just want to add someone at the command line, adduser is better and simpler |
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| 21:42.32 | Georgius | nsadmin: yes, I have two completely separate internet connections (even on separate eth0 and eth1 in my desktop) |
| 21:43.19 | tdn | rlc, so for compression I should use this? #dd_rescue /dev/sda1 - | ssh -C username@machineip 'cat |gzip > /datarecovery/backup.img' |
| 21:43.27 | tdn | rlc, why the cat? |
| 21:43.35 | nsadmin | Georgius: do you use a linux box as your outbound router? |
| 21:43.45 | rlc | tdn you can have a look here : http://www.debianadmin.com/recover-data-from-a-dead-hard-drive-using-ddrescue.html |
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| 21:44.07 | Georgius | nsadmin: yes, can be viewed this way ;-) |
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| 21:45.07 | Georgius | In fact it is slightly more complicated as my desktop (Linux) is connected to HW AP (Linux/OpenWrt) which is connected wirelessly to the router in question (Linux/Debian 5) |
| 21:45.19 | adb | Georgius, #networking , try it |
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| 21:45.52 | Georgius | adb: but this is Debian upgrade issue :-( Because Etch worked fine for years |
| 21:46.01 | tdn | rlc, hmm... why the cat@@ ? |
| 21:46.08 | tdn | What does @@ mean? |
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| 21:47.41 | octocpp | what is a good console app to monitor network traffic numbers in real time ? |
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| 21:48.19 | jmarsden | octocpp: jnettop |
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| 21:49.16 | rlc | tdn I don't know I haven't test ssh images yet ... |
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| 21:50.57 | tdn | rlc, ok. |
| 21:51.43 | rlc | tdn you can try the command as it won't change any bit of the hdd of the netbook |
| 21:51.46 | Georgius | nsadmin: any advice ? |
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| 21:53.53 | nsadmin | so debian doesn't think they can distribute the gcc info docs, correct? |
| 21:54.03 | rohan | on my dell vostro 1510 laptop, there is a single switch for both wifi and bluetooth. hence i have switched off bluetooth in bios. however, sometimes when i need it, is there any way to enable it except from rebooting and enabling it in bios? |
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| 21:55.25 | suffe | anyone here tried to run a raid5 (or any raid for that matter) with external usb disks? Thinking about getting 3 for my mac-mini and am curious about pitfalls. Sounds like both a good and a bad idea at the same time... |
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| 21:56.08 | suffe | right now it runs debian ppc and sits happy in a corner, so at least no one will trip over the usb cables |
| 21:56.26 | nsadmin | Georgius the router in question is a debian lenny box? |
| 21:56.39 | hark | nsadmin: same old gfdl issue |
| 21:56.46 | Georgius | nsadmin: yes, it was Etch and now is Lenny. |
| 21:56.56 | Justin | suffe: I do raid 1 on two usb drives with ZFS, it works but it's pretty slow. raid5 would be even slower |
| 21:57.00 | nsadmin | hark: is it in non-free? |
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| 21:57.19 | nsadmin | judd versions gcc-doc |
| 21:57.20 | judd | nsadmin: gcc-doc -- etch/contrib: 4:4.1.1.nf3 lenny/contrib: 5:2 sid/contrib: 5:2 squeeze/contrib: 5:2 |
| 21:57.30 | rlc | Justin esata is a better choice |
| 21:57.33 | hark | !gcc-doc |
| 21:57.34 | nsadmin | contrib |
| 21:57.34 | dpkg | The man pages for gcc are in the package gcc-doc which is in non-free. It's in non-free because it is released under the GFDL with invariant sections so the package does not meet the DFSG. Ask me about <non-free> <gfdl> and <dfsg>. If you are looking for man pages for printf, strchr etc then get manpages-dev. |
| 21:57.37 | suffe | justin: it's slow? for reads? because I don't care much for writes. it's for video/photo storage |
| 21:57.54 | nsadmin | what about the info pages? |
| 21:58.08 | nsadmin | which constitute "Using and Porting GNU CC" |
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| 21:58.45 | suffe | justin: also, I had no idea ZFS was available for linux. at least that was good to learn =) |
| 21:59.02 | hark | nsadmin: yeah, info pages as well |
| 21:59.30 | Justin | suffe: reads max out at 30MB/s, writes end up being around 10MB/s |
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| 21:59.56 | Justin | suffe: it works great for music and movie streaming, but it can be excruciatingly slow for moving gigabytes of data |
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| 22:00.06 | GattoDiSchroding | hi |
| 22:00.53 | suffe | justin: thanks a lot. like I said, it's mainly a backup sollution so speed is not the nbr 1 thing |
| 22:01.27 | GattoDiSchroding | there is some problem with kde after upgrade (squeeze) |
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| 22:02.57 | suffe | justin: was there any major hurdles to set it up or just lie using internal drives? |
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| 22:03.13 | nader | HI, can I install debian from the source like gentoo ? |
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| 22:03.28 | Justin | suffe: just like internal drives, but you can hot swap them :) |
| 22:03.53 | suffe | justin: intentionally as well as unintentionally... ;) |
| 22:04.01 | Justin | yeah, I did that once :) |
| 22:04.06 | suffe | haha |
| 22:04.18 | suffe | I mean, sorry ;) |
| 22:04.42 | Justin | meant to pull out a usb keyboard and ripped out one of the drives instead |
| 22:05.19 | Georgius | nader? yes you can |
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| 22:06.13 | nader | Georgius, how? |
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| 22:06.51 | farri | I need help, I am in a host where mod_rewrite is built into Apache by default instead of being a DSO and drupal fails when checking clean urls |
| 22:07.10 | farri | what can I do ? |
| 22:07.13 | GattoDiSchroding | kde-minimal: Dipende: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.3.1) ma non sta per essere installato |
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| 22:07.58 | jhutchins | I installed kde-desktop but I don't seem to have a menu. |
| 22:08.17 | rlc | Is it possible to recover an lvm setup from a dm-crypt partition when the user reset dm-crypt passphrase without formating the partition ??? |
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| 22:08.51 | Georgius | nader: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html <http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.cs.html> |
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| 22:09.56 | nader | Georgius, tnx |
| 22:10.18 | rlc | Of course I ever try to open the partition and run pvscan without success. And it seem that lde can't display block from dm-0 |
| 22:10.28 | mythomaniac | how can i seach debian bug reports to see if a bug has been filed on a program? |
| 22:10.39 | Georgius | nsadmin ?? |
| 22:10.51 | rlc | mythomaniac you can try reportbug |
| 22:10.52 | mythomaniac | ? |
| 22:11.28 | mythomaniac | rlc, doesn't that just report bugs, not search them? |
| 22:11.52 | rlc | mythomaniac it display the list of bugs before you can add one |
| 22:12.45 | rlc | mythomaniac otherwise you can get them from the debian buf tracking system on www |
| 22:13.24 | rlc | mythomaniac http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 22:14.00 | GattoDiSchroding | http://paste.debian.net/53165/ |
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| 22:14.21 | pm2 | Hi - Is it possible to setup a VPN server that requires username/password ONLY from certain clients; and certificates ONLY from another client? |
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| 22:16.16 | nsadmin | Georgius so let's look at the router itself |
| 22:16.33 | Georgius | nsadmin: can you be more precise ? |
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| 22:16.43 | Georgius | nsadmin: i am logged on the console ... |
| 22:16.48 | nsadmin | first, it's doing masquerade/NAT, yes? |
| 22:16.55 | Georgius | no |
| 22:17.02 | Georgius | only some port forwarding |
| 22:17.27 | mythomaniac | rlc, yeah the bug has been reported: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546686 <--- however, mine is much worse... |
| 22:17.30 | nsadmin | ok, what is its purpose? |
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| 22:17.55 | nsadmin | since it's not doing ipmasq, then the same IPs are both inside and outside? |
| 22:18.10 | mythomaniac | rlc, what action can one take... because the bug has been tagged as unclassified? |
| 22:18.20 | nsadmin | why would it have to forward ports if it's not masqing? |
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| 22:19.14 | farri | I need help, I am in a host where mod_rewrite is built into Apache by default instead of being a DSO and drupal fails when checking clean urls, how can I make it work? |
| 22:19.33 | nsadmin | farri: what OS is that host running? |
| 22:20.13 | Georgius | nsadmin: because it has a public IP as well, but this is not hte core of the problem. The problem is that it does not forward icmp packages from 10.12.26.0 to 10.12.27.0 subnet |
| 22:20.17 | farri | nsadmin: oh sorry, I thought I went to drupal channel!! I went to debian!!! sorryyyy |
| 22:20.40 | nsadmin | np |
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| 22:21.52 | lxsameer | when i try to run firefox 3.5.5 i get this "./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but the file is in place, whats the problem? |
| 22:21.59 | mythomaniac | is there anything a user can do to get the status of a bug changed from unclassified to critical? |
| 22:22.40 | Imran-UK | lxsameer, might have to run ldconfig |
| 22:23.01 | Imran-UK | unless you installed it from a package in which it should have run that automagcially |
| 22:23.45 | lxsameer | Imran-UK: i do it before |
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| 22:24.49 | \amethyst | lxsameer: sounds like you're trying to run the 32-bit version on a 64-bit OS or vice versa |
| 22:24.53 | jmarsden | mythomaniac: Yes, you can add a comment to the bug explaining clearly and specifically why it meets the criteria for being critical. If it really does. |
| 22:25.18 | hoo-hah | hi guys, is there a way to remove all files in /boot/grub that no longer belong? I'd mistakenly installed grub2 when first using Squeeze, and have since gone back to -legacy (personal reasons), but the downgrade did not seem to remove a majority of the cruft left behind in /boot/grub |
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| 22:25.48 | rlc | mythomaniac http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control |
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| 22:25.51 | lxsameer | \amethyst: maybe how can i find out |
| 22:25.55 | mythomaniac | jmarsden, and how would i do that, by selecting reply on the web page of the bug? |
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| 22:26.47 | \amethyst | lxsameer: find the firefox-bin binary, and run the program 'file' on it |
| 22:27.02 | rlc | mythomaniac critical is for bugs that make the computer unusable |
| 22:27.05 | \amethyst | lxsameer: that will tell you whether it's a 32-bit or 64-bit executable |
| 22:27.26 | jmarsden | mythomaniac: Sure. just make really sure you understand what critical means. |
| 22:27.34 | \amethyst | lxsameer: do you have a 64-bit or 32-bit Debian install? |
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| 22:28.02 | lxsameer | \amethyst: yeah |
| 22:28.05 | lxsameer | \amethyst: ./firefox: POSIX shell script text executable |
| 22:28.11 | \amethyst | lxsameer: firefox-bin |
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| 22:28.22 | \amethyst | lxsameer: it's probably in a directory called 'bin' or 'lib' or something |
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| 22:28.31 | \amethyst | lxsameer: not sure how the firefox binaries are packaged |
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| 22:29.19 | mrmoto2 | how can i do an aplication autostartup in gnome? |
| 22:29.28 | lxsameer | \amethyst: hmmmmmmm , do you have any idea how can i install firefox ? |
| 22:29.34 | mythomaniac | rlc, hmmm... well thing is when i see uncritical... i think it's something that isn't a big deal... i guess i would like to confirm that i also experience this bug... and hopefully it will be fixed before testing becomes stable? |
| 22:29.35 | mrmoto2 | when i singin gnome |
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| 22:29.57 | \amethyst | mrmoto2: gnome-session-properties, then click on Add |
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| 22:30.25 | \amethyst | mrmoto2: (from the GUI that's user System -> Preferences -> Session |
| 22:30.30 | \amethyst | mrmoto2: *under |
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| 22:30.49 | \amethyst | lxsameer: do you need 3.5, or is 3.0 enough? |
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| 22:31.16 | lxsameer | \amethyst: 3.5 |
| 22:31.39 | \amethyst | lxsameer: then you can get it from the firefox web site, just make sure you get the right version for your system |
| 22:31.47 | \amethyst | lxsameer: what does dpkg --print-architecture say? |
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| 22:32.39 | lxsameer | \amethyst: amd64 i already got it |
| 22:33.02 | rlc | mythomaniac subscribe to the bug and add the maximum details you can. The package maintainer will then choose if this bug severity must be level up |
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| 22:33.21 | mythomaniac | rlc, ok, thank you |
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| 22:34.05 | TrueDD | Howdy |
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| 22:36.06 | lvh | hello |
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| 22:36.32 | lvh | I just installed gnome, and it's incredibly slow. as in, multiple second reaction time for the menus, and 10 seconds to log out. I have no idea how to start debugging that -- any pointers? |
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| 22:36.54 | dragon | what's preferred? apt-cacher or apt-proxy? |
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| 22:38.02 | rlc | lvh try to see log/messages |
| 22:38.22 | jmarsden | dragon: I think apt-proxy is slightly more commonly used, but use whichever you prefer |
| 22:38.25 | lvh | rlc: Which one? /var/log/messages is a long shot, but lemme check |
| 22:38.51 | dragon | jmarsden: apt-proxy requires changing server names, while apt-cacher can act as an HTTP proxy |
| 22:39.06 | rlc | lvh yes or syslog and X11 |
| 22:39.09 | dragon | latter sounds convenient, but I was looking for reasons to use apt-proxy instead of apt-cacher |
| 22:39.46 | jmarsden | dragon: I'm not really sure; apt-proxy is what I've heard other use and seen on wiki pages describing how to use it, etc... |
| 22:40.03 | lvh | rlc: what's the difference between syslog and /var/log/messages |
| 22:40.04 | mrmoto2 | \amethyst thanks and how can i make a button for shutdown the computer |
| 22:40.32 | dragon | jmarsden: yes, that's why I am a bit concerned before switching to apt-cacher |
| 22:40.34 | mrmoto2 | the only opcion is exit to console |
| 22:41.03 | jmarsden | lvh: syslog is a program that runs in the background accepting messages and logging them. /var/log/messages is one of the files it is usually configured to log to. |
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| 22:41.21 | rlc | lvh messages aer from the kernel, syslog is more general i think |
| 22:41.27 | lvh | jmarsden: right, i knew that -- but where would I look for syslog messages other that /var/log/messages |
| 22:41.35 | abrotman | dragon: i prefered approx |
| 22:41.38 | lvh | rlc: i think you're thinking of dmesg vs /var/log/messages |
| 22:41.52 | jmarsden | lvh: look in /etc/syslog.conf to see how your syslog daemon is configured :) |
| 22:41.54 | dragon | abrotman: hm, how's it better than the others? |
| 22:42.16 | rlc | lvh dmesg return the output of boot sequence |
| 22:42.21 | mrmoto2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.25 | mrmoto2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:42.58 | cahoot | use the one already present? |
| 22:43.15 | mrmoto2 | Anyone have any idea why I would suddenly not be getting the "shutdown" or "restart" options, when using the Gnome log off option in Feisty Fawn? I get all the other options (i.e Suspend, Hibernate, Log Off, Switch User, etc.) but not Shutdown or Restart. |
| 22:43.26 | hoo-hah | guys, what creates the files in /boot/grub? the grub-legacy package itself, or is it grub-install etc? |
| 22:43.28 | lvh | rlc: try unloading a kernel module and loading it again |
| 22:43.38 | lvh | rlc: then look at dmesg's output |
| 22:44.29 | jmarsden | mrmoto2: This is #debian. Feisty Fawn is Ubuntu, so please ask about that in #ubuntu |
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| 22:45.31 | hoo-hah | mrmoto2: I knew you were an ubuntuer |
| 22:45.54 | rlc | lvh I use tail -f logtomonitor | grep whatiwanttotrack in different terminals to monitor the logs |
| 22:46.03 | dragon | haha, I wonder why he had to mention Fiesty Fawn. |
| 22:46.09 | hoo-hah | slip |
| 22:46.15 | mrmoto2 | i got debian |
| 22:46.20 | hoo-hah | sure |
| 22:46.34 | abrotman | mrmoto2: ask #ubuntu about Fiesty support |
| 22:46.49 | mrmoto2 | i dont got ubuntu |
| 22:47.00 | mrmoto2 | i got debian 5.0 |
| 22:47.00 | abrotman | you just said you did |
| 22:47.03 | hoo-hah | ban |
| 22:47.08 | dragon | No wait, Feisty came out over 30 months back, so #ubuntu doesn't support it either. |
| 22:47.13 | mrmoto2 | !ban hoo-hah |
| 22:47.15 | abrotman | mrmoto2: what does `uname -a` say ? |
| 22:47.35 | mrmoto2 | wait |
| 22:47.39 | hoo-hah | funny, mrmoto2. logs of #ubuntu suggest you're a regular |
| 22:47.49 | abrotman | mrmoto2: please go to #ubuntu for Ubuntu support |
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| 22:48.01 | abrotman | mrmoto2: we don't appreciate people that lie to get support |
| 22:48.10 | mrmoto2 | Linux maq1 2.6.30-bpo.2-686 #1 SMP Wed Oct 28 16:33:19 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:48.26 | abrotman | mrmoto2: dpkg -l gdm | tail -1 |
| 22:48.42 | mrmoto2 | maq1:~# dpkg -l gdm | tail -1 |
| 22:48.43 | mrmoto2 | ii gdm 2.20.7-4lenny1 GNOME Display Manager |
| 22:48.54 | abrotman | so why are you asking about Feisty ? |
| 22:48.55 | rlc | lvh you can use top to have a look at cpu an ram load too |
| 22:48.59 | hojda | Hi, I installed nvidia 3D accel. but gnome and screensavers does not know about it... Did I forgot something ? |
| 22:49.16 | mrmoto2 | i dont speak good english |
| 22:49.22 | mrmoto2 | i copy of a webtranslator |
| 22:49.26 | mrmoto2 | sorry |
| 22:49.28 | hoo-hah | bad english = feisty fawn? |
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| 22:49.34 | abrotman | sure ... somehow it translated Lenny into Feisty Fawn |
| 22:49.38 | mrmoto2 | i copy that of a webpage |
| 22:50.26 | hoo-hah | that translation (save for feisty fawn) seemed spot on. I've never seen a translator perform that well |
| 22:50.43 | mrmoto2 | i copy same problem of a webpage |
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| 22:50.53 | mrmoto2 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417755 |
| 22:51.00 | mrmoto2 | but i got debian and got same problem |
| 22:51.09 | PinkFreud | meh. I don't see the problem. Support him like you would any Debian user. If he's lying and using ubuntu, it's his problem to sort out what needs to be done. |
| 22:51.29 | mrmoto2 | i use debian |
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| 22:52.03 | hoo-hah | PinkFreud: well, we wouldn't want him spreading the rumour that it's okay for other ubuntuers to try getting support from this channel |
| 22:53.01 | PinkFreud | hoo-hah: again - what does it matter? |
| 22:53.02 | ootput | it's just the flood of unintelligible questions that would annoy me |
| 22:53.22 | hoo-hah | PinkFreud: so you don't mind that at all? |
| 22:53.37 | PinkFreud | as has already been pointed out, this is #debian. simply support him as you would any debian user, if he claims he's running debian. |
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| 22:54.00 | hoo-hah | nope |
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| 22:54.14 | mrmoto2 | im a debian user |
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| 22:54.37 | PinkFreud | ubuntu does differ from debian, of course. if he's unable to do what's recommended because he's lied about what he's running... that's his problem, not yours. :) |
| 22:54.55 | mrmoto2 | I get all the other options (i.e Suspend, Log Off, Switch User, etc.) but not Shutdown or Restart. |
| 22:54.57 | je | within a shell, how do I get the stat from the inode of a file? |
| 22:55.02 | kharloss | hi there. i made a big mistake, i try to recompile my kernnel, everything was ok, then i " mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31.6 2.6.31.6 " then change my /boot/grub/menu.lst .. delete all files config-2.6.XX / initrdXX everything ... i`m stuckd ...stupid .. any help recovery my debian back? |
| 22:55.10 | mrmoto2 | how can i get shutdown option |
| 22:55.11 | hoo-hah | PinkFreud: I wouldn't let him waste my time to begin with |
| 22:55.41 | PinkFreud | hoo-hah: I don't understand how it's wasting time. If you're able to resolve his problem, great. |
| 22:55.50 | mrmoto2 | i need a shutdown button |
| 22:55.58 | PinkFreud | doesn't matter if he's running Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, OpenSolaris... |
| 22:56.04 | rlc | Will I loose my time if I wanna recover something from that partition dm-crypt>LVM2>debian-home LV. The user try to recover by itself and reset the dm-crypt partition with the same passphrase :-( |
| 22:56.13 | hoo-hah | PinkFreud: that's fantastic that you're so accomodating |
| 22:56.28 | mrmoto2 | hoo-hah stop |
| 22:56.33 | PinkFreud | hoo-hah: if it's a waste of time, then why are you here? |
| 22:56.34 | hoo-hah | perhaps your own help channel would suit these stray types better |
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| 22:57.19 | mrmoto2 | hoo-hah is bad person |
| 22:57.31 | PinkFreud | hoo-hah: in any case, your griping about what he may or may not be running isn't helping. |
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| 22:57.50 | hoo-hah | thanks for the private message, mrmoto. fuck you as well |
| 22:57.56 | PinkFreud | sighs. |
| 22:57.59 | mrmoto2 | = / |
| 22:58.00 | hoo-hah | no, you're a son of a |
| 22:58.03 | mrmoto2 | what? |
| 22:58.12 | mrmoto2 | why you insult me? |
| 22:58.15 | PinkFreud | will you two please /ignore each other? |
| 22:58.18 | hoo-hah | why lie yet again |
| 22:58.24 | mrmoto2 | = / |
| 22:58.27 | mrmoto2 | iam a debian user |
| 22:58.28 | hoo-hah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.39 | mrmoto2 | eh? |
| 22:58.52 | ootput | mrmoto2: stop it, moron |
| 22:59.05 | ootput | that won't get you anywhere |
| 22:59.08 | SimonRC | was about to leave anyway... |
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| 22:59.54 | jmarsden | je: stat /path/to/file |
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| 23:00.06 | refreshFSN | ooops i think i broke something. |
| 23:00.10 | refreshFSN | It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix thiss issue. |
| 23:00.15 | hoo-hah | mrmoto2: msgs from you come out as [ignored] don't waste your time please |
| 23:00.24 | mrmoto2 | what? |
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| 23:00.44 | je | jmarsden: i've got the inode, not the path |
| 23:01.04 | PinkFreud | fine, I'll put both of you numbskulls on ignore. |
| 23:01.04 | refreshFSN | and apt-get wants to remove 2556MB oO |
| 23:01.22 | hojda | xconf::Under what I put ( Option "NvAGP" ) ? |
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| 23:02.02 | jmarsden | je: OK, find / -inum 12345678 |
| 23:02.11 | Mrmoto | I get all the other options (i.e Suspend, Log Off, Switch User, etc.) but not Shutdown or Restart. i need a button for shutdown the pc |
| 23:03.05 | hoo-hah | Mrmoto: fuck off already please |
| 23:03.13 | hoo-hah | and don't try to get around the ignore |
| 23:03.23 | ootput | sighs |
| 23:03.45 | themill | hoo-hah: leave it |
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| 23:04.02 | hoo-hah | he's spamming me with insulting pms |
| 23:04.15 | hoo-hah | I don't know how to block against him either. he's switched hosts |
| 23:04.34 | je | jmarsden:that's it thanks |
| 23:04.40 | jmarsden | je: You're welcome. |
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| 23:05.35 | jhutchins_lt | kdenetworkmanager doesn't display anything... |
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| 23:14.46 | DeSian | i want with gparted create new partition, i've create the liveCD but if try boot with this gparted live CD receive this message "sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" , what is wrong? |
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| 23:16.23 | Hexxeh | Hey |
| 23:16.42 | Hexxeh | If I have 3 USB HDDs of different sizes, is it possible to combine them into appearing as one drive, JBOD style? |
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| 23:18.09 | xxtjaxx | Hexxeh: I m not really been exposed to this buthave you had a look at lvm before? |
| 23:18.13 | jetscreamer | what is jbod |
| 23:18.18 | jetscreamer | !lvm |
| 23:18.19 | dpkg | it has been said that lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:18.38 | Hexxeh | xxtjaxx: Ahh, that's a good idea, never thought of that, thanks! |
| 23:18.39 | JPT | jbod = just? a bunch of discs |
| 23:18.44 | Hexxeh | Yeah. |
| 23:19.00 | xxtjaxx | lol |
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| 23:19.50 | hoo-hah | any of experience an error while upgrading dovecot-imapd on Squeeze (and dovecot-common). System complains that not all deps are met. |
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| 23:20.50 | ootput | hoo-hah: mysql-common_5.1.37-2_all libmysqlclient16_5.1.37-2_amd64 removed from repo |
| 23:21.08 | ootput | if it's absolutely necessary, dpkg -i from package cache |
| 23:21.19 | hoo-hah | oh right, thanks |
| 23:21.20 | jetscreamer | !ssb |
| 23:21.20 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 23:21.54 | hoo-hah | jetscreamer: was that for me? |
| 23:22.08 | hoo-hah | so i have to build the package myself from sid? |
| 23:22.33 | jetscreamer | it's simple sid backport, i dunno what you want to do |
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| 23:22.54 | jetscreamer | security considerations and all that |
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| 23:26.11 | hoo-hah | jetscreamer: the deps for dovecot-common (mysql stuff) aren't in Squeeze anymore. I've found the cached debs, so should I just install those, or do the deb-src method from above? |
| 23:26.27 | je | is there a way to display the inode usage on /dev/mapper/foo which is encrypted? df -i shows 0 |
| 23:26.30 | hoo-hah | wont using backports on Squeeze be a problem? |
| 23:26.55 | jetscreamer | hoo-hah: up to you.. me i'd probably try the cached ones, but i dunno |
| 23:27.01 | jetscreamer | try them first i mean |
| 23:27.22 | jetscreamer | no shouldn't be a problem imo, but i do not know for sure |
| 23:27.43 | jetscreamer | sid and testing are 'basically' the same |
| 23:28.09 | jetscreamer | a few versions different , sometimes less, sometimes more |
| 23:28.38 | jetscreamer | also depends on how close squeeze is getting to release |
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| 23:30.40 | \amethyst | so find "$DIR" -iname '*.rar' -exec unrar {} \; if you want to unrar them into the current directory |
| 23:30.43 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 23:33.37 | Pericius | if my processor is Intel Core 2 Duo SL9600, which debian architecture should i choose to install? |
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| 23:34.14 | endri | hi i want to use some sort of indexing for my system for fast desktop search. what do you advise? |
| 23:34.54 | babilen | Pericius: You can install i386 (32bit) and amd64 (64bit) |
| 23:35.21 | aaron__ | hey I'm getting an error Saying this Disk has many bad sectors |
| 23:35.23 | aaron__ | how do i fixed this? |
| 23:35.25 | Pericius | babilen, will there be performance difference? |
| 23:35.56 | aaron__ | any help |
| 23:35.57 | aaron__ | ? |
| 23:36.03 | jetscreamer | what filesystem |
| 23:36.21 | aaron__ | how do i check? |
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| 23:36.27 | jetscreamer | !forcefsck |
| 23:36.27 | dpkg | To instruct your system to execute <fsck> on the next boot: "touch /forcefsck". Useful for checking the root filesystem for errors (via /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh). Alternatively, supply the -F option to shutdown(8) to create the /forcefsck advisory file. |
| 23:36.29 | babilen | Pericius: no. The differences are more with the amount of RAM that can be addressed and certain packages/application that are not yet ported to amd64 |
| 23:36.56 | babilen | !tell Pericius -about amd64 |
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| 23:37.01 | babilen | !tell Pericius -about i386 |
| 23:37.17 | aaron__ | jetscreamer, how? |
| 23:37.29 | jetscreamer | do what the bot said |
| 23:37.40 | jetscreamer | as to how to tell.. you could less /etc/fstab and read it |
| 23:37.46 | Pericius | babilen, thank you |
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| 23:38.03 | babilen | Pericius: you are welcome. |
| 23:38.06 | jetscreamer | or you could just remember what you told the installer to do... ext3 would probably be the default |
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| 23:38.26 | aaron__ | Cannot check root file system because it is not mounted read-only. ... failed! |
| 23:38.31 | jetscreamer | is it your root filesystem/partition? |
| 23:38.37 | jetscreamer | well do what the bot told you |
| 23:38.42 | aaron__ | i just did |
| 23:38.54 | jetscreamer | shutdown -Fr now or so |
| 23:39.01 | jetscreamer | or is it fR |
| 23:39.17 | jetscreamer | -Fr |
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| 23:39.36 | jetscreamer | guess he did it |
| 23:40.34 | jetscreamer | omg i need to stop eating burritos |
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| 23:41.04 | jetscreamer | cranks exhaust fan on full |
| 23:42.17 | rerushg | jetscreamer: jeeezzzz..... global warming is bad enough!... please, no global stink! |
| 23:43.51 | Hexxeh | I hate to sound silly here, but LVM is confusing me quite a bit. I only encountered it briefly once before with a distro that used it by default. |
| 23:44.17 | Hexxeh | Is there some simpler kind than this documentation style page at tldp.org? |
| 23:44.36 | babilen | !tell Hexxeh -about lvm |
| 23:44.44 | babilen | Hexxeh: ^^^ should get you started |
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| 23:45.18 | Hexxeh | Ah, just noticed one of those pages looks more simple, thanks |
| 23:45.27 | babilen | !tell Hexxeh -about lvm_tutorial |
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| 23:46.08 | babilen | Hexxeh: enjoy the reading |
| 23:46.25 | Hexxeh | Heh, thanks. |
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| 23:50.30 | sysErroR | !keep helix |
| 23:50.38 | sysErroR | oops |
| 23:50.39 | sysErroR | lol |
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| 23:50.43 | sysErroR | sorry :) |
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| 23:59.05 | dec3pti0n | are the pkg in debian-multimedia usually newer than in the debina lenny/main repo ? |
