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| 00:00.29 | paissad-hp | Titan8990, yeah i know ... but i have to write as script which use ffmpeg which needs some options my current debian does not have :-( |
| 00:00.43 | paissad-hp | Titan8990, it's a script for a cron job ! |
| 00:01.20 | Justin_ | guillaume2: if you mount your sda1, it should be there |
| 00:01.27 | f00bar80 | babilen, maybe i knew some new things, which is a better experience |
| 00:01.57 | fretegi_part_2 | thanks for ur help |
| 00:01.58 | babilen | f00bar80: hehe ... |
| 00:02.04 | babilen | fretegi_part_2: bye |
| 00:02.18 | guillaume2 | Justin_ I have to reboot in order to be under sysrescuecd is there other things I should check before copming back if nothing work ? |
| 00:02.54 | f00bar80 | babilen, here's now i'm on the partioning step |
| 00:02.55 | Titan8990 | paissad-hp: what does it do? |
| 00:03.07 | Titan8990 | paissad-hp: alarm clock? |
| 00:03.58 | f00bar80 | babilen, Guided use entire disk , use entire disk and set up LVM , ..setup encrypted LVM , manual |
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| 00:04.09 | f00bar80 | babilen, should i select manual this time ? |
| 00:04.26 | paissad-hp | Titan8990, it checks automatically from new video files and encode them to avi ... (simplified explication :P) |
| 00:04.30 | babilen | select manual and tell me what is there |
| 00:04.35 | paissad-hp | explanation* |
| 00:05.16 | babilen | f00bar80: summarise it ... something like / 23GB ext3 or so |
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| 00:06.03 | adb | f00bar80, so only now you begin installation ... doing partition for your hard , cool .. |
| 00:06.18 | f00bar80 | babilen, noway :) |
| 00:06.30 | babilen | f00bar80: no way? |
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| 00:07.12 | acu | how can I reinstall X in squeeze ? |
| 00:07.16 | adb | acu, run > X -configure :1 |
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| 00:07.39 | babilen | hehe ,,, solution to what is wanted? |
| 00:08.17 | f00bar80 | babilen, scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) 513 MB LEXAR JUMPDRIVE PRO > #1 primary 509.0MB B fat16 AND scsi3(0,0,0) (sdc)-120 GB ATA WDC WD1200BEVT-2 > #1 primary 117.3 GB B ext3 > #5 logical 2.7 GB F swap swap |
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| 00:09.48 | babilen | so sdc it is ... |
| 00:10.01 | babilen | try mounting sdc1 to /target |
| 00:10.02 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:10.16 | f00bar80 | babilen, but it was not their when we did ls /dev/sd* |
| 00:10.35 | adb | hehe |
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| 00:10.45 | Inazad | how I can output the following string in php (dont want the var's values..) : $xmlData=$xmlData . '<class name="#fond_menu" action="save" key="'.$trx_key.'">'; |
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| 00:10.58 | f00bar80 | babilen, i'm still partitioning the hard so should i continue or what ?????? |
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| 00:11.20 | babilen | f00bar80: try mounting it ... no harm done so far |
| 00:11.31 | shadowless_egg | question: what if i want to give my debian partition more space? |
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| 00:11.37 | adb | Alt +F2 |
| 00:11.37 | shadowless_egg | i will be dual booting |
| 00:11.47 | babilen | f00bar80: ^^^ |
| 00:11.52 | paissad-hp | i followed the tutorial of !ssb and i got errors at these step http://pastebin.fr/6157 ... if you need translation tell me |
| 00:11.54 | Inazad | shadowless_egg, resize it |
| 00:12.08 | paissad-hp | how can i solve that ? |
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| 00:12.33 | shadowless_egg | how would i do that? |
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| 00:13.21 | adb | paissad-hp, i said you twice that libopencore-amrnb-dev is in testing , try to install from there |
| 00:13.32 | adb | ... |
| 00:13.37 | babilen | shadowless_egg: use gparted and resize your partitions |
| 00:13.48 | paissad-hp | adb, damn it , sorry mate :P |
| 00:13.53 | acu | abd: did it it fails - and when I startX I get Fatal seerver error: no screens found |
| 00:14.00 | acu | how can I reinstall X ? |
| 00:14.19 | shadowless_egg | ok gparted, easy enough |
| 00:14.21 | Justin_ | acu: you don't need to reinstall X, you need to fix what you broke |
| 00:14.32 | adb | acu, run > X -configure :1 , read what it said |
| 00:15.31 | acu | + |
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| 00:17.14 | f00bar80 | babilen, mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /target ==> No such device :s |
| 00:17.18 | acu | abd: I runned it and it goes guickly - it wants to do something almost as it try to go to the blue screen for configuration - but it scrolls in less than a sec - last message Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices Configuration failed |
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| 00:19.37 | shadowless_egg | oh, the domain name part of the installer |
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| 00:19.41 | f00bar80 | soooo ....??? |
| 00:19.42 | shadowless_egg | what should i do there? |
| 00:19.53 | sploozer | Does this channnel support BlueCoat Proxy appliance? |
| 00:20.14 | sploozer | o'l well |
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| 00:20.39 | f00bar80 | adb, so what now ...? |
| 00:20.43 | shadowless_egg | so should i put whatever for the domain? |
| 00:20.45 | f00bar80 | babilen, so what now ...? |
| 00:21.34 | shadowless_egg | and all the partitions i need is the SWAP and main partition right? |
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| 00:21.51 | babilen | f00bar80: second ... |
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| 00:22.44 | f00bar80 | babilen, k brb FEDUP |
| 00:23.03 | acu | shadowless_egg, you need /boot (100 MB max 350 Mb) you need swap and / |
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| 00:23.31 | paissad-hp | adb, i added this two repos, but i still don't find libopencore-amrnb-dev |
| 00:23.33 | paissad-hp | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main |
| 00:23.33 | paissad-hp | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main |
| 00:23.33 | shadowless_egg | so i need a /boot partition? |
| 00:23.42 | acu | I think so |
| 00:23.51 | acu | that should be primary |
| 00:23.57 | shadowless_egg | im gonna dual boot this and use ntldr |
| 00:24.03 | acu | some do ext2 but ext3 is good |
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| 00:24.19 | shadowless_egg | so i need main swap and boot? |
| 00:24.25 | paissad-hp | adb, and if i follow the !ssb tutorial ... i have errors :) |
| 00:24.48 | paissad-hp | adb, maybe i misunderstood |
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| 00:25.03 | acu | shadowless_egg, wait a minute - you have a windows machine and want to have dual booting ? |
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| 00:25.41 | shadowless_egg | indeed |
| 00:25.43 | adb | paissad-hp deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib |
| 00:25.49 | shadowless_egg | i got most of it down |
| 00:26.15 | shadowless_egg | i want the windows partition to have free space still |
| 00:26.25 | shadowless_egg | so i have to manually do it |
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| 00:26.55 | shadowless_egg | just asking if i need anything other than the main and swap partitions |
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| 00:27.12 | acu | if so - defragment your windows - clean all unnecessary files - then shrink the existing partition - and from the remaining one make two partiions - one fat32 for data which can be access by both linux and windows and let one free - when you install debian it will say automatic partitioning in the free partition - one partition - it will take care of everthing |
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| 00:27.51 | shadowless_egg | meh |
| 00:28.00 | acu | you can shrink the windows partition if you boot with KNOPPIX and use QTPARTED - |
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| 00:28.15 | shadowless_egg | meh i say meh |
| 00:28.23 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo and install ulimit please? |
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| 00:29.14 | adb | acu, To test the X server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new' , done it ? |
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| 00:30.15 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo and install ulimit please? |
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| 00:30.26 | adb | acu , maybe, /j #debian-ro |
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| 00:30.45 | shadowless_egg | what should i put for the domain name part of the install? |
| 00:30.54 | shadowless_egg | i will be using netinst |
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| 00:30.56 | adb | nothing |
| 00:31.02 | leviathan2 | hi |
| 00:31.09 | shadowless_egg | just leave it blank? |
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| 00:31.13 | adb | yes |
| 00:31.21 | shadowless_egg | but i might use it for an ftp server later |
| 00:31.26 | leviathan2 | i am using debian squeeze, and its a long time that i ont see any update |
| 00:31.47 | adb | shadowless_egg, so may configure that later |
| 00:31.52 | paissad-hp | adb, you are a God ! |
| 00:31.56 | leviathan2 | someone knows the reason? |
| 00:32.16 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo and install ulimit please? |
| 00:32.28 | adb | paissad-hp, good to know that worked |
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| 00:32.38 | acu | abd I joined :) How did you know - because of my impeccable English ? |
| 00:32.42 | amphi | if I recall correctly the intel X driver was ugraded a matter of hours ago, amongst others |
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| 00:33.05 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo and install ulimit please? |
| 00:33.13 | leviathan2 | when i say no updates i am saying any kind of update |
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| 00:33.57 | leviathan2 | to all repositories |
| 00:34.04 | paissad-hp | adb, uhhh, no finally |
| 00:34.10 | paissad-hp | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main non-free contrib |
| 00:34.10 | paissad-hp | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free contrib |
| 00:34.31 | adb | no |
| 00:34.36 | adb | paissad-hp deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib |
| 00:34.37 | paissad-hp | but --> E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet libopencore-amrnb-dev |
| 00:34.37 | paissad-hp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.03 | paissad-hp | oh ftp ! |
| 00:35.09 | leviathan2 | someone can help me please? |
| 00:35.25 | Jullly | Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.. |
| 00:35.31 | adb | paissad-hp, all the my line |
| 00:35.36 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo and install ulimit please? |
| 00:35.49 | Scottybuk | hey guys. can someone help me add the repo for ulimit? |
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| 00:36.12 | leviathan2 | nobody knows why squeeze updates have stoped? |
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| 00:36.41 | themill | Jullly: checking for such things is a good thing, finding them is not. |
| 00:37.18 | themill | Scottybuk: ulimit is a shell builtin. It's part of bash (and others). |
| 00:37.20 | acu | leviathan2: first you should check your /etc/apt/sources.list of course if you want just to see is cat /etc/apt/sources.list and be sure you have squeeze and properly - if yes you can go as root and type apt-get update |
| 00:37.27 | acu | then apt-get upgrade |
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| 00:37.42 | leviathan2 | ok i will try |
| 00:37.58 | acu | you can do this things from synaptic package manager too - ther is a update icon and upgrade |
| 00:38.08 | paissad-hp | adb, i resume, i added exactly (copy/paste) your repository, but i have another problem now ! |
| 00:38.19 | paissad-hp | Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : |
| 00:38.20 | paissad-hp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.20 | paissad-hp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.20 | paissad-hp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.20 | paissad-hp | E: Paquets défectueux |
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| 00:38.22 | leviathan2 | well that is the problem |
| 00:38.28 | themill | Scottybuk: please don't /msg me -- please keep it in the channel |
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| 00:38.31 | leviathan2 | i used synaptic |
| 00:38.35 | paissad-hp | sorry :) |
| 00:39.06 | paissad-hp | adb, that means those packages need to be installed ! |
| 00:39.06 | leviathan2 | and the sources.list are correct(are the br sources tought) |
| 00:39.26 | KnuckOne | paissad-hp: use LANG=C when calling apt (people doesn't understand french), and use pastebin too :P |
| 00:39.39 | adb | paissad-hp, oui |
| 00:39.55 | acu | leviathan2: first make sure your repository is right - if you want to edit you can do nano /etc/apt/sources.list you can change whatever then press CTRL + O to save it and CTRL+X so exit |
| 00:40.05 | paissad-hp | KnuckOne, adb, ok ^^ |
| 00:40.22 | Scottybuk | any idea how i can restrict www-data to 400mb ram with ulimit? |
| 00:40.33 | leviathan2 | its updating, myabe is it, i will wait finsish it and try |
| 00:40.45 | leviathan2 | (the repository is right) |
| 00:41.22 | Scottybuk | any idea how i can restrict www-data to 400mb ram with ulimit? |
| 00:41.22 | shadowless_egg | so all i need is a swap and man root? |
| 00:41.26 | shadowless_egg | main |
| 00:41.47 | paissad-hp | adb, i guess i have to compile from source now ? |
| 00:41.48 | f00bar80 | babilen, back |
| 00:41.53 | f00bar80 | babilen, mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /target ==> No such device :s |
| 00:41.57 | puff | Hm... okay, so I set a buncha packages wtih dpkg --set-selectns. |
| 00:42.06 | adb | paissad-hp, no install them |
| 00:42.11 | puff | However, that is turning out to be not a good idea. Is there a way I can undo that? |
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| 00:42.30 | puff | E.g. tell dpkg to unset any package that is set but not actually installed yet. |
| 00:42.37 | Scottybuk | any idea how i can restrict www-data to 400mb ram with ulimit? |
| 00:42.58 | Tux^verdreifelt | /$&/§&/% stecker |
| 00:43.00 | puff | Scottybuk: Looks like the answer is "google it". |
| 00:43.09 | Scottybuk | thats the first thing i tired |
| 00:43.16 | Scottybuk | tried* |
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| 00:43.46 | puff | Scottybuk: You might also check out sysctl. |
| 00:43.52 | KnuckOne | Scottybuk: /etc/security/limits.conf (edit the file, the explnations are in it) |
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| 00:44.07 | Scottybuk | ty KnuckOne |
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| 00:44.57 | Corndawg | can a linux security guru answer this: if within ssh logged in as root, su'ing down to a reguar user and running an app is a safe as loging into that user via ssh and running an app... by safe I mean if that app is compramised will the attacker have that user level access or root level access |
| 00:44.58 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 00:45.20 | Corndawg | that was a ? by the way :) |
| 00:45.44 | markybob_ | corndawgno it's not as safe. all you need is an "exit" to have root |
| 00:46.08 | puff | markybob_: I think he's asking if the program is as safe. |
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| 00:46.23 | puff | markybob_: Like, obviously if somebody takes over that session and exits back to the root process, they have root. |
| 00:46.32 | Corndawg | well no I mean the methodology... so would be safer to just login as the user right? |
| 00:46.32 | Stargazer | Is there no debian for i686 ? |
| 00:46.38 | puff | markybob_: But does the program have any extra privs fromb eing started by a shell that was started by ar oot shell? |
| 00:46.41 | puff | Corndawg: Yes. |
| 00:46.42 | hoo-hah | any of you know of an alternative to bashburner?I'm after commandline cd burning menu system |
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| 00:46.55 | beardy | !wodim |
| 00:46.55 | dpkg | somebody said wodim was a <DFSG> compliant fork of <cdrecord>. See http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ for the release notice. |
| 00:46.58 | Corndawg | k, thx... I'm still learning linux security here |
| 00:47.00 | hoo-hah | I keep seeing projects that look promising, but end up dieing |
| 00:47.22 | puff | Corndawg: In general, you have to think about how access flows. |
| 00:47.43 | Corndawg | well it wont have elev privs if its run from that user right? |
| 00:47.44 | puff | Corndawg: Nobody actually uses capabilities, but I found that learnign about them helped me think more clearly about security. |
| 00:48.21 | hoo-hah | beardy: are you sure that provides menu system? |
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| 00:48.30 | puff | Corndawg: That's a good question... I'm pretty certain the answer is no, but I haven't thought it through. |
| 00:48.31 | hoo-hah | as my question asked? |
| 00:48.33 | themill | Stargazer: sure there is. Install the -686 kernel and libc6 with the i386 architecture. |
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| 00:48.49 | puff | Corndawg: that is, it woun't have any obvious extra privs, but the thing with security is that it's not the obvious stuff that bites you. |
| 00:48.53 | koollman | Corndawg: right |
| 00:48.59 | Corndawg | but best practice is to just login as user and not root and only use su if needed right |
| 00:49.08 | puff | Corndawg: This is why a) there is no such thing as "secure", only "more secure" and "less secure" and b) defense in depth. |
| 00:49.16 | Corndawg | right |
| 00:49.18 | leviathan2 | worked, ty |
| 00:49.22 | Robert_L_Straitt | Okay stupid question, while I was out today my kernel had a failure. How can I check and see what exactly the failure was? |
| 00:49.31 | Corndawg | hmm how to get screen working in non root then :P thats my prob |
| 00:49.34 | leviathan2 | acu |
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| 00:49.43 | puff | Corndawg: Screen should wrok fine for non-root users, I use it all the time. |
| 00:49.56 | leviathan2 | now its just update |
| 00:49.58 | shadowless_egg | ok, gonna try to dual boot this. |
| 00:50.00 | leviathan2 | bye |
| 00:50.04 | Corndawg | doesnt work for me on a centos box of mine, havent tested on this debian yet |
| 00:50.17 | puff | Corndawg: Hm? |
| 00:50.36 | puff | Corndawg: Sometimes, on some systems, there's a permissions issue. Screen has to create entries in a centralized directory. |
| 00:50.41 | Corndawg | screen from root... fine screen from other user: cannot attach to pts-0 |
| 00:50.45 | puff | Corndawg: That means that screen wasn't set up properly on that box. |
| 00:50.53 | puff | Corndawg: Ohwait. |
| 00:51.05 | puff | Corndawg: Clarify what you're trying to do. |
| 00:51.21 | Corndawg | [user$] screen |
| 00:51.21 | puff | Corndawg: If you're trying to just use screen normally, as a non-root user, then what I said. |
| 00:51.25 | Corndawg | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/2' - please check |
| 00:51.28 | Stargazer | Themill, i can't boot into a GUI netinst if it's not allowing me. says it detects i686 and the netinst is for i386 |
| 00:51.32 | Corndawg | however |
| 00:51.42 | Corndawg | [root#] scrren |
| 00:51.43 | puff | Corndawg: If you're trying to do something funky, where you start a screen as root and etc, that's another matter. |
| 00:51.45 | Corndawg | perfect |
| 00:51.48 | puff | Corndawg: Okay, yeah, then what I said. |
| 00:52.20 | puff | Corndawg: http://osdir.com/ml/centos/2009-08/msg00225.html |
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| 00:52.33 | puff | Corndawg: AFAIK this is entirely not an issue with debian. |
| 00:52.37 | f00bar80 | babilen, are you there ? |
| 00:52.41 | Corndawg | ok thanks... prob just not setup right |
| 00:52.48 | puff | Corndawg: I've never encountered the problem with debian, only reason I know about it is that I ran nto it on centos last year. |
| 00:53.03 | Corndawg | ya well like I said... prob exists on debian, I think its a screen issue not debian |
| 00:53.12 | Corndawg | prob exitst on centos rather |
| 00:53.20 | Corndawg | havent tested deb |
| 00:53.26 | puff | Right. |
| 00:53.28 | puff | Good luck. |
| 00:53.36 | Corndawg | anyway thx for the point in right dir |
| 00:53.36 | puff | Now if I could just figure out this dpkg problem.. |
| 00:54.11 | guillaume | I can't reinstall grub on squeeze debian, after installing windows 7 on an ntfs partition, grub-install fail and grub>setup (hd0) too see http://debian.pastebin.com/m2c59 I don't know what's happening... I can check file system and access them without problem. |
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| 00:54.43 | chomwitt | hi. in debian-squeeze with intel's mobo with audio IDT 92HD73E1X5 chip sound worked after adding a options snd-hda-intel model=ref line in alsa-base.conf. is that a bug? would that chip work automatically in new releases? |
| 00:54.46 | guillaume | I use a DELL laptop xps m1710 |
| 00:54.48 | mike11 | hi all |
| 00:55.01 | mike11 | preferences->keyboard shortcuts doesn't start |
| 00:55.05 | mike11 | any ideas? |
| 00:55.15 | UserReg_CL | hi |
| 00:55.19 | shadowless_egg | alright, wish me luck |
| 00:55.24 | shadowless_egg | gonna do this! |
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| 00:56.41 | guillaume | Justin_ http://debian.pastebin.com/m2c59 |
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| 01:00.41 | huttsonn | Having problem in installing mplayer with synaptic. When I mark it for installation, there is a long list of libxxx packages to be installed. When I mark these for installations, I get msg about packages with unresolvable dependencies. I am using lenny with kde. |
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| 01:03.10 | puff | Does anybody know of a good, concise explanation of the underlying files, formats, etc for packages and package management? |
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| 01:03.52 | markybob_ | puff, it's called the new maintainer's guide. http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 01:04.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | would argue the "good" aspect of maint-guide atm (tbh) |
| 01:04.50 | huttsonn | how to reach the official chat channel for debian? |
| 01:05.05 | markybob_ | huttsonn, irc.debian.org #debian |
| 01:05.08 | puff | markybob_: Taht's for how to build a package (which is also something I would like to learn someday) but, for example, when you do "dpkg --set-selection", what file is altered? |
| 01:05.13 | huttsonn | thks |
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| 01:06.29 | Thuuugs | Quick question; currently running '2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-64' and wanted to convert my ext3 to a ext4 FS because I heard it works alot better with rtorrent etc. Just wanted to know if it is possible on this older kernel etc? |
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| 01:07.42 | markybob_ | puff, nothing that can be manually altered (it's not plaintext) |
| 01:10.11 | Corndawg_ | [5~ |
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| 01:14.22 | Gm4n | anyone familiar with smart statuses? I have a disk that seems to me like it's about to die (smartctl on it takes about a minute to execute, compared to a fraction of a second on the sister disk). Is there any reason for that behaviour? |
| 01:14.30 | shadowless_egg | well, that didnt last long |
| 01:14.45 | shadowless_egg | i need to resize the main windows partition |
| 01:14.53 | shadowless_egg | should i allow debian to do that? |
| 01:15.23 | Gm4n | I think debian uses gparted, which is exactly what I use to do it "manually" |
| 01:15.29 | Gm4n | so I would allow debian to do it |
| 01:15.31 | shadowless_egg | has anyone used the debian installer's resizer |
| 01:15.36 | shadowless_egg | okay |
| 01:15.39 | shadowless_egg | attempt #2 |
| 01:15.58 | adb | shadowless_egg, yes , debian installe resizer is good |
| 01:16.09 | Scottybuk | anyone have any idea how i can restrict www-data to 300mb of ram? |
| 01:16.33 | Gm4n | you mean the user specifically? because apache might have a directive for that |
| 01:16.34 | adb | Scottybuk, now 300mb ? was 400 .. |
| 01:16.39 | Scottybuk | well |
| 01:16.41 | Scottybuk | either |
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| 01:16.56 | Scottybuk | 300/400 any |
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| 01:17.02 | hoo-hah | hi guys, I've got a cd or dvd media disc (no labels) and I'd like to find out if it's either a CD or DVD. Is tis possible? |
| 01:17.31 | Scottybuk | hoo-hah |
| 01:17.36 | Scottybuk | what color is the bollow om the disk? |
| 01:17.39 | Scottybuk | bottom* |
| 01:18.06 | hoo-hah | Scottybuk: woudln't know how to describe it :( |
| 01:18.14 | Scottybuk | is it a purple color? |
| 01:18.16 | Gm4n | blue? purple? black? |
| 01:18.58 | hoo-hah | bluish/purple ring in the middle |
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| 01:19.08 | Scottybuk | its dvd |
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| 01:19.21 | Gm4n | and it's burned, if there's a ring on it |
| 01:19.24 | hoo-hah | ring is only 3-5mm thick though, and 3 cm radius from center |
| 01:19.31 | Scottybuk | yeah |
| 01:19.34 | Scottybuk | its dvd |
| 01:19.37 | Gm4n | so it's a dvd without much data burned on it |
| 01:19.39 | hoo-hah | I don't think it's part of the track |
| 01:19.48 | Scottybuk | Gm4n |
| 01:19.56 | Gm4n | Scottybuk |
| 01:20.01 | Scottybuk | he means the little ring just after the finger hole |
| 01:20.06 | Gm4n | ooh |
| 01:20.07 | Scottybuk | before the start of the disk |
| 01:20.07 | hoo-hah | Scottybuk: yeah |
| 01:20.23 | Scottybuk | hoo-hah, its definitly dvd |
| 01:20.28 | Gm4n | yeah, sounds like a dvd to me too |
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| 01:20.29 | hoo-hah | and same blue after the end of the disk |
| 01:20.53 | hoo-hah | crap. I need to burn some audio CDs for the folks, and this bundle was all I could find in the house |
| 01:21.10 | Scottybuk | does the cd player support mp3's? |
| 01:21.25 | Scottybuk | oh |
| 01:21.26 | Scottybuk | nvm |
| 01:21.26 | Scottybuk | lol |
| 01:21.28 | Scottybuk | wont work |
| 01:21.35 | Scottybuk | i was thinking of my in car dvd player |
| 01:22.08 | hoo-hah | nah, this cd was a family-made christmas carols disc that we wanna get everyone practicing with this year |
| 01:22.15 | f00bar80 | adb, any comment ? |
| 01:22.21 | hoo-hah | family-made (family voicies0 |
| 01:22.29 | markybob_ | hoo-hah, jesus...trust me, no one wants it |
| 01:22.29 | Scottybuk | anyone have any idea how i can restrict www-data to 300/400mb of ram? |
| 01:23.05 | hoo-hah | save for a few members of the group, the rest are performers :) |
| 01:23.06 | Gm4n | I briefly google some apache directives, didn't find anything |
| 01:23.12 | hoo-hah | so it doesn't end up too bad |
| 01:23.41 | hoo-hah | markybob_: (we only use it to train, we don't actually play it anywhere else) |
| 01:23.50 | hoo-hah | so rest easy :P |
| 01:24.00 | leafwiz | Hi, anyone have experience with a rar files that will unpack under winrar but not linux unrar ? |
| 01:24.15 | markybob_ | leafwiz, install the non-free unrar |
| 01:24.22 | Scottybuk | anyone have any idea how i can restrict www-data to 300/400mb of ram? |
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| 01:24.47 | leafwiz | markybob_: Ah.. yes. I'll try that |
| 01:24.50 | leafwiz | thx |
| 01:24.53 | adb | f00bar80, i told you tree times how to fixmbr , but doing a newinstall will not hart |
| 01:25.39 | k\t | does anyone know the name of the 64-bit packages for mesa/glx so 3d accel will be possible. |
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| 01:26.29 | Gm4n | any ideas why smartctl would take 20+ seconds on one disk and be instant on others? |
| 01:26.54 | Scottybuk | slow rpm? |
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| 01:27.04 | Gm4n | they're both 7200 rpm seagates |
| 01:27.16 | Scottybuk | both sata? |
| 01:27.17 | Scottybuk | ide? |
| 01:27.18 | markybob_ | more like the disk is probably dying |
| 01:27.22 | Gm4n | both sata |
| 01:27.25 | Scottybuk | or 1 sata and 1 ide? |
| 01:27.27 | Scottybuk | strange |
| 01:27.32 | Gm4n | it's a much older disk |
| 01:27.36 | Scottybuk | are u running a raid card? |
| 01:27.39 | Scottybuk | or an array? |
| 01:27.40 | markybob_ | yes. it's dying |
| 01:27.43 | Gm4n | mdadm array |
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| 01:28.06 | Gm4n | the only unusual thing in the smartctl is that the Spin_Retry_Count is 1, and the Reallocated_Sector_Ct is 3 |
| 01:28.15 | Gm4n | (to my untrained eye) |
| 01:28.32 | Scottybuk | it may be dying |
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| 01:29.11 | Scottybuk | anyone have any idea how i can restrict www-data to 300/400mb of ram? |
| 01:29.39 | abrotman | Scottybuk: uhm .. limit the number of processes ? |
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| 01:30.10 | Scottybuk | no i need the proccessing uncapped |
| 01:30.15 | Scottybuk | i just need the ram capped |
| 01:30.15 | UrsoBranco | hi ppl, today I upgraded my notebook (acer Aspire 5630) from lenny to testing. Since then Xorg stopped to recognize my keyboard and mouse |
| 01:30.22 | Scottybuk | its cuz of torrentflux |
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| 01:30.28 | Scottybuk | im seeding 30 torrents |
| 01:30.36 | Scottybuk | and its using over 450mb ram |
| 01:30.44 | Scottybuk | i want to cap it to 300/400 |
| 01:30.45 | Gm4n | markybob_ or Scottybuk, does this smartctl output look right? SDA is the misbehaving disk: http://pastebin.ca/1697538 |
| 01:30.54 | UrsoBranco | does anyone knows how to handle this problem ? Xorg not recognizing keyboard and mouse ? |
| 01:31.05 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: aptitude install xorg ? |
| 01:31.10 | abrotman | Scottybuk: mod_bandwidth |
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| 01:31.37 | abrotman | Scottybuk: yes, i do mind .. please keep it in the channel |
| 01:31.43 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: apt-get install xserver-xorg (what I did) |
| 01:31.46 | markybob_ | Gm4n, i told you, it's dying. |
| 01:31.53 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: no, the command i used .. not what you think is right |
| 01:32.07 | Gm4n | markybob_: I agree, but I need something I can tell seagate so I can warranty it |
| 01:32.17 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: 1s |
| 01:32.32 | markybob_ | Gm4n, just tell them the bios doesnt see it. end of problem |
| 01:32.32 | abrotman | Scottybuk: apt-cache search apache bandwidth |
| 01:32.41 | Scottybuk | cool |
| 01:32.42 | Scottybuk | ty |
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| 01:33.06 | Gm4n | but won't they test it when it gets returned? |
| 01:33.07 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: the only thing aá¹titude will do is to remove a lot of stuff |
| 01:33.14 | markybob_ | Scottybuk, no. so long as you return it to them, they dont care. |
| 01:33.23 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: put it in a pastebin |
| 01:33.24 | UrsoBranco | including python and other libraries I know I use |
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| 01:33.40 | UrsoBranco | ok |
| 01:33.45 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: ok |
| 01:33.46 | Scottybuk | abrotman, i dont wanna restrict bandwidth. just ram |
| 01:34.25 | abrotman | Scottybuk: then limit the number of chidren |
| 01:34.45 | Scottybuk | is there no way to cap ram? |
| 01:35.02 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/d6450b9dd |
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| 01:36.04 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: are you using primarily kde or gnome ? |
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| 01:36.26 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: kde |
| 01:36.37 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: try aptitude install xorg kde4-minimal .. see what it wants to remove then |
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| 01:36.44 | guillaume | Hi again I still nedd help with grub http://debian.pastebin.com/m2c59 |
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| 01:37.46 | Scottybuk | abrotman, is there no way to cap ram? |
| 01:38.14 | abrotman | Scottybuk: i told you how i would do it .. ask #apache if you want other opinions |
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| 01:38.43 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: aparently it doesn't change the output of the aptitude command http://pastebin.com/m53c3dcbc |
| 01:39.03 | guillaume | does anybody know how to install grub from scratch without stage1 file ? |
| 01:39.16 | markybob_ | haha |
| 01:39.37 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: it changed some of it .. |
| 01:39.52 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: aptitude install xorg kde-minimal ? |
| 01:39.53 | awayand | guillaume, what does fdisk -l tell you? |
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| 01:40.36 | abrotman | what? |
| 01:40.38 | Salvad | Hello. |
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| 01:40.57 | Salvad | I have some error in synaptic. |
| 01:40.59 | guillaume | awayand I can't tell you easily as I must restart wth sysrescuelivecd |
| 01:41.14 | Salvad | Or when trying to install deb packages. |
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| 01:41.27 | Stargazer | Is there no i686 version of Debian (or a version for netbooks) ? |
| 01:41.28 | awayand | guillaume, no problem, not necessary on second thought |
| 01:41.39 | awayand | guillaume, can you try reinstalling grub? |
| 01:41.50 | guillaume | awayand I check the filesystem and can mount them without problem fro mmy first sata hdd sda |
| 01:41.52 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: actually I'm using kde4 or xfce4 what works :D. The pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/d4e2870b0 |
| 01:42.20 | guillaume | awayand how ? I try grub-install and it fail |
| 01:42.23 | awayand | guillaume, can you try reinstalling grub? if not, I can send you my stage1 file |
| 01:42.48 | markybob_ | Stargazer, you want i386 or amd64, depending on its cpu |
| 01:42.52 | awayand | guillaume, no I mean dpkg-reinstall grub :) |
| 01:43.07 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: are you in X now? if not, i say, let it do it .. then install your WM/DE afterwards ? |
| 01:43.10 | guillaume | awayand it complain see here http://debian.pastebin.com/m2c59 |
| 01:43.19 | markybob_ | Stargazer, if it's 32-bit only, you want i386 |
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| 01:43.30 | Salvad | Is here a right place to ask for help about deb packages installing errors? |
| 01:43.43 | guillaume | awayand i must use chroot ? |
| 01:43.46 | Stargazer | Markybob_, so i just need the i386 and it will work ? |
| 01:43.49 | markybob_ | Salvad, so long as it's debian, not ubuntu, here is fine |
| 01:43.51 | markybob_ | Stargazer, yes |
| 01:43.53 | awayand | guillaume, right, I have read it, but can you try reinstalling the grub package... |
| 01:44.02 | Salvad | I am using Ubuntu. |
| 01:44.07 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: I'm using ssh for now, because If I even start X, the system loses its keyboard and mouse control |
| 01:44.10 | markybob_ | Salvad, then go to #ubuntu |
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| 01:44.22 | Salvad | but in #ubuntu did n 't get any response. |
| 01:44.22 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: okay .. so let it do that ... then install what you need later |
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| 01:44.30 | abrotman | UrsoBranco: just make a note of what it's going to uninstall |
| 01:44.37 | Stargazer | Markybob_, someone mentioned earlier that i would need to install the kernel for i686, do i ? |
| 01:44.37 | markybob_ | Salvad, doesnt matter. ubuntu is offtopic here and not relavant |
| 01:44.37 | Salvad | but is about the debian packaging system. |
| 01:44.51 | markybob_ | Stargazer, no. i386 installs fine on i686 |
| 01:44.56 | markybob_ | Salvad, doesnt matter |
| 01:44.57 | Stargazer | K. |
| 01:44.58 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: I'll try to do it |
| 01:45.02 | awayand | guillaume, lemme send you the stage1 file |
| 01:45.02 | markybob_ | !tell Salvad about ubuntu |
| 01:45.12 | guillaume | awayand the fact is that under the livecd I have no net access due to wpa2 encryption I must download the package to an usb key before or the command should work directly ? |
| 01:45.50 | markybob_ | !tell Salvad about debian-based |
| 01:45.55 | abrotman | Salvad: they gave you the broken package and your package manager .. use #ubuntu |
| 01:46.15 | awayand | guillaume, I see. Well you should have the grub package in your apt cache somewhere, you could try extracting the file using dpkg... |
| 01:46.29 | guillaume | awayand I download super grub and there's stage1 and 2 fils on it, where I have to put them ? |
| 01:46.53 | awayand | into /boot/grub :) |
| 01:46.59 | awayand | guillaume, into /boot/grub :) |
| 01:47.13 | Salvad | I want to understand about know for an specific error only. |
| 01:47.30 | markybob_ | Salvad, doesnt matter. why cant you understand? |
| 01:47.33 | Salvad | well, will go to ask in #ubuntu then. |
| 01:47.50 | Salvad | I only want to know about an specific software. |
| 01:48.04 | abrotman | Salvad: Ubuntu is offtopic here, please go to #ubuntu |
| 01:48.10 | UrsoBranco | abrotman: tks |
| 01:48.15 | UrsoBranco | :d |
| 01:48.15 | markybob_ | fucking broken record |
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| 01:48.51 | guillaume | awayand I see I have two /boot one is sda1 ext2 and one in sda2 lvm2 lv debian-root I must copy them into all of these folders or only on sda1 ? |
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| 01:49.44 | awayand | guillaume, only sda1 if you use root(hd0,0) |
| 01:50.10 | guillaume | awayand ok I'll be back |
| 01:51.27 | awayand | guillaume, sure |
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| 01:58.47 | hoo-hah | I used cdrdao to create toc and bin file of AudioCD, but I don't think it cdrdao can write to DVD. Can a different app do this? |
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| 02:03.35 | ksnp | is it possible to automatically delete old mail periodically ? |
| 02:04.25 | abrotman | from what ? |
| 02:06.03 | ranix | ksnp: I use a paper shredder for that |
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| 02:07.06 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: you can use archivemail to do that if it's in a maildir or mailbox; if it's somewhere else, you'll have to use different tools |
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| 02:13.10 | ksnp | from the root's mail |
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| 02:13.28 | ksnp | i am checking out archivemail |
| 02:13.46 | ksnp | i suppose it wouldn't be that hard to configure |
| 02:14.06 | ksnp | i was thinking of just deleting part of the the mail file (i am using mailbox) |
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| 02:22.22 | shadowless_egg | okay that worked |
| 02:22.32 | shadowless_egg | except there seems to be a problem with gparted |
| 02:23.07 | shadowless_egg | i cant resize any partition |
| 02:23.11 | shadowless_egg | and i cant install java |
| 02:24.04 | shadowless_egg | so how can i add space to both of my partitions |
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| 02:25.50 | shadowless_egg | so should i install the ntfs drivers? |
| 02:26.10 | shadowless_egg | and how do i install java |
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| 02:26.18 | shadowless_egg | it says i cant display |
| 02:26.23 | shadowless_egg | it* |
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| 02:30.48 | mike11 | hi all need help |
| 02:31.08 | mike11 | using squeeze, can't start keyboard-shortcuts |
| 02:31.22 | mike11 | cat /var/log/syslog shows: [ 1793.934644] gnome-keybindin[2951]: segfault at 18 ip b7ea532a sp bfde5af0 error 4 in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1800.3[b7c89000+3bc000] |
| 02:31.26 | mike11 | any ideas? |
| 02:32.33 | adb | what ? is not clear ? > segfault |
| 02:33.16 | mike11 | looks like a segmentation fault in libgtk-x11 |
| 02:33.21 | adb | !tell smike11 -about squeeze |
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| 02:35.00 | hwu | in sudo, if granting sudoedit to a user, how to prevent user from editing sudoers file? |
| 02:35.15 | mike11 | any1? |
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| 02:37.08 | jetscreamer | granting sudoedit? |
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| 02:37.45 | jetscreamer | you mean giving limited sudo permissions maybe? |
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| 02:42.13 | hwu | jetscreamer, I am wondering if it is possible to grant sudoedit (root) to one user, but restricting this user from editing /etc/sudoers file itself, or other important system files like /etc/group .. |
| 02:43.22 | jetscreamer | i'm sorry, but i don't understand sudoedit... you can grant restricted sudo permissions to users, on certain things, this i know |
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| 02:45.09 | jetscreamer | man sudoers iirc |
| 02:45.14 | jetscreamer | !sudoers |
| 02:45.15 | dpkg | You can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). For more security, please study the man pages from 'apropos sudo'. See also <visudo>. |
| 02:45.24 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys ..... i cant get compiz working :( |
| 02:45.38 | jetscreamer | all-all would be not what you want |
| 02:45.44 | jetscreamer | but you can tweak it |
| 02:45.45 | cobra-the-joker | i have installed all the plugins and fusion icon |
| 02:46.03 | jetscreamer | !compiz |
| 02:46.03 | dpkg | Compiz is a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. It can run when <AIGLX> and the composite extension are enabled for your X server; see http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for installation, configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz . http://www.compiz.org/ #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:46.07 | jetscreamer | all i know |
| 02:47.13 | skeletal | Gyus, i have a problem with GRUB. So, i have 2 partition here and a sata HD, right? So, i lost my GRUB and I try restore it with my Debian CD, ok when i typed "grub-intall /dev/sda" my GRUB just works now, BUUTTT whenn i go for Debian, show several erro and i can't acess my system. |
| 02:47.31 | skeletal | i have a idea, i past my erro in this site http://pastebin.com/m103a95bb |
| 02:47.39 | skeletal | someone can help me? |
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| 02:48.50 | jetscreamer | i find it best to use UUID in menu.lst instead of /dev/sda1 or whatever |
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| 02:49.02 | amphi | did you "try root=/dev/hda6" as suggested in line 17? |
| 02:49.13 | jetscreamer | can you hit the grub cli (hit c) and get it to work? |
| 02:49.24 | jetscreamer | ah nvm listen to amphi |
| 02:49.57 | hwu | I figured it out |
| 02:49.59 | jetscreamer | and root= /dev/sda6 rc quiet does the space matter, anybody know? |
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| 02:50.08 | jetscreamer | root= / |
| 02:50.13 | hwu | just add ! in front of the command that you don't want user to run |
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| 02:50.31 | amphi | jetscreamer: I would think so - I've never had such a space |
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| 02:52.04 | skeletal | <amphi> So, here is the problem. When I type fdisk -l, i dont have sda6, just sda5. |
| 02:52.16 | skeletal | There aren't sda6. |
| 02:52.22 | jetscreamer | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24.3 root=UUID=e56ffbde-0944-4e92-bc2d-6d89d24e544a ro |
| 02:52.31 | jetscreamer | is what mine looks like if you try uuid |
| 02:52.45 | jetscreamer | ls -lA /dev/disk/by-uuid to find the values |
| 02:53.04 | jetscreamer | that's an old one i have posted, my kernel is .30 |
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| 02:53.54 | skeletal | <jetscreamer> My english is pretty weak, sorry. I can't undertand... So, is there some solution for my case? |
| 02:53.55 | adb | jetscreamer, it's an ubuntu system ? heh |
| 02:54.12 | jetscreamer | adb.. what? |
| 02:54.32 | adb | 2.6.24.3 is not debian style .. |
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| 02:54.56 | skeletal | <jetscreamer> Can you write the "step" that can I do for solve this problem? please |
| 02:54.58 | jetscreamer | ah.. that was probably back from when i bothered to comile kernels |
| 02:55.02 | jetscreamer | pile |
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| 02:55.04 | jetscreamer | sid |
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| 02:55.50 | DogBoy | jetscreamer would never use ubuntu |
| 02:55.53 | DogBoy | heh |
| 02:56.11 | jetscreamer | skeletal: i checked it out once |
| 02:56.13 | Acegi | Hi I have the Athlon Turion 64 X2, on the Debian download page which should I download? Amd64 or i386? |
| 02:56.14 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 02:56.24 | jetscreamer | !amd64 |
| 02:56.24 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The amd64 architecture also supports running i386 Debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are amd64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
| 02:56.31 | jetscreamer | i checked out ubuntu once |
| 02:56.36 | markybob_ | Acegi, amd64 |
| 02:56.46 | Acegi | Is that 32bit or 64bit though? |
| 02:56.52 | markybob_ | Acegi, 64 |
| 02:56.58 | skeletal | <jetscreamer> hmmm okay, but what can I do in this situation? |
| 02:57.08 | jetscreamer | skeletal: paste your menu.list and fstab and the output of fdisk -l if you can |
| 02:57.09 | markybob_ | Acegi, thus the '64' in your cpu model/name |
| 02:57.14 | jetscreamer | err lst |
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| 02:57.27 | Acegi | Yes but for compatibility i386 is better? |
| 02:57.36 | DogBoy | Acegi, what are you gonna use the machine for |
| 02:57.37 | abrotman | Acegi: yes |
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| 02:57.41 | jetscreamer | oh and the output of ls -lA /dev/disk/by-uuid also skeletal |
| 02:57.46 | markybob_ | Acegi, not really anymore. java, flash, etc all run on 64-bit |
| 02:57.55 | Acegi | programming might be affected? |
| 02:58.00 | abrotman | Acegi: things like skype, etc .. do not have a 64bit version |
| 02:58.06 | markybob_ | Acegi, no. you can compile 32-bit in 64-bit |
| 02:58.16 | jetscreamer | skeletal: abrotman can fix you up, he's a debian god.... |
| 02:58.18 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 02:58.21 | Acegi | Ah ok thanks! |
| 02:58.28 | adb | !tell skeletal -about fixgrub |
| 02:58.54 | Robert_L_Straitt | !tell Robert_L_Straitt -about fixgrub |
| 02:59.05 | abrotman | !tell Robert_L_Straitt about selftell |
| 02:59.10 | skeletal | <jetscreamer> Ok, will try, do you have MSN? if you have, i can send my mnt.list pretty well. Do you have? |
| 02:59.12 | teratoma | a/win 2 |
| 02:59.13 | jetscreamer | !tell rob.... you bastid you beat me to it |
| 02:59.18 | jetscreamer | skeletal: uh no.. |
| 02:59.21 | jetscreamer | !paste |
| 02:59.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 02:59.31 | Robert_L_Straitt | sorry abrotman...=/ |
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| 02:59.54 | abrotman | has found the super grub CD to work pretty well |
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| 03:00.22 | jetscreamer | leaves, but hands skeletal off to abrotman first |
| 03:00.30 | jetscreamer | k thx buhbye |
| 03:00.33 | abrotman | uh .. |
| 03:00.51 | HideMe | Ever since I did a dist-upgrade I'm no longer getting updates in Aptitude, everything seems to me marked as "held back". Any idea why? |
| 03:01.05 | abrotman | HideMe: aptitude full-upgrade ? |
| 03:01.46 | HideMe | abrotman, Honestly, I don't recall. It was months ago. Give me a moment to see if I can track the document I followed. |
| 03:01.58 | abrotman | i'm asking you to try that command |
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| 03:02.43 | HideMe | oh sorry. |
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| 03:03.24 | HideMe | abrotman, 7 packages to be updated. |
| 03:03.35 | abrotman | i'm asking you to try that command? |
| 03:03.49 | HideMe | and I'm telling you the result. |
| 03:03.57 | markybob_ | yo mama |
| 03:04.01 | HideMe | It returns a listing of 7 packages. |
| 03:04.04 | abrotman | so there are more to be held back ? |
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| 03:04.35 | markybob_ | HideMe, did you by any chance mix an ubuntu installation with debian repository? |
| 03:05.04 | HideMe | abrotman, No idea, I'm not telling the system to hold anything. |
| 03:05.21 | abrotman | so? |
| 03:05.41 | HideMe | markinfo, I don't believe so. it is http://debian.osuosl.org/debian lenny main |
| 03:06.02 | markybob_ | why the fuck cant anyone ever get my nick right? sob |
| 03:06.12 | HideMe | abrotman, It isn't clear what you're asking me for. |
| 03:06.24 | markinfo | what? |
| 03:06.30 | HideMe | markybob_, Blame tab complete. :) |
| 03:06.34 | abrotman | HideMe: i'm asking you if you do a full-upgrade, are there still packages held back? |
| 03:07.13 | HideMe | abrotman, 7 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 03:07.14 | markybob_ | HideMe, and why do you expect many packages to be updated while using stable? |
| 03:07.23 | abrotman | HideMe: so what'st he problem ? |
| 03:07.25 | markybob_ | HideMe, a small number is expected...as it is, uh, stable |
| 03:07.49 | markybob_ | HideMe, note, this isnt the case with ubuntu stable. debian is different |
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| 03:08.19 | HideMe | abrotman, when I run aptitude, press u (for updates) and then g to install, nothing installs as the stats are all listed as being held back. |
| 03:08.41 | HideMe | markybob_, I see. |
| 03:09.15 | HideMe | just seems like more was going on when I was at sarge stable. |
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| 03:10.50 | HideMe | Thanks for your time. |
| 03:11.41 | flazer | can anyone help with usb boot? |
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| 03:13.53 | flazer | i've had some problems with boot.img.gz and debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 03:19.09 | marckie | hi. is there any way to save iptable rules in debian? similar to 'service iptables save' in rh-like? |
| 03:19.25 | dondelelcaro | marckie: I suggest using ferm or similar |
| 03:19.39 | marckie | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 03:19.57 | Acegi | Ok downloaded and burned onto cd. Wish me luck! |
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| 03:22.59 | marckie | another thing, in debian i see "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", and also "/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding". which one do i need to toggle to make sure forwarding works? |
| 03:23.38 | adb | ip_forward |
| 03:23.54 | marckie | ty |
| 03:25.04 | adb | marckie, apt-cache show ipmasq |
| 03:25.41 | abrotman | gone in sid/squeeze FWIW |
| 03:25.54 | adb | ah .. |
| 03:26.09 | adb | judd, versions ipmasq |
| 03:26.10 | marckie | adb, ipmasq might be an overkill for me, i just need 3 ports forwarded from the host |
| 03:26.10 | judd | adb: ipmasq -- etch: 4.0.8-2 lenny: 4.0.8-7 sid: 4.0.8-7 |
| 03:26.26 | marckie | but ip_forward is good |
| 03:26.37 | UserReg_CL | hi, please need one good guide for config exim. thank |
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| 03:27.42 | adb | !tell UserReg_CL -about exim4 |
| 03:28.57 | abrotman | adb: do you actually know what's in those factoids? |
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| 03:29.13 | adb | no |
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| 03:30.02 | abrotman | so why bother? |
| 03:30.06 | puff | markybob_: Yeah, probably, but I'm trying to figure out how to sortthese problems out and it's all voodoo at this point. |
| 03:31.40 | puff | So I did dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt, scp to new box, dpkg --get-selections < selections.txt |
| 03:31.43 | puff | Various problems ensue. |
| 03:31.49 | puff | Is there a way to undo that --set-selections? |
| 03:32.02 | puff | Or to reset the selections to only the currently installed packages? |
| 03:32.29 | jetscreamer | you could edit the file manually and do it again |
| 03:32.34 | puff | How? |
| 03:32.42 | jetscreamer | with a text editor? |
| 03:32.53 | puff | Uh, okay, which file? |
| 03:32.58 | puff | Is dpkg --set-selections additive, i.e. if I run dpkg --set-selections twice, will it combine the two lists or will it set the selections only to the old list? |
| 03:33.01 | jetscreamer | selections.txt |
| 03:33.17 | puff | Er, only to the second list? |
| 03:33.22 | jetscreamer | you might have to do the --forget-selections, or so |
| 03:33.32 | jetscreamer | i do not know what happens if you do it twice |
| 03:34.06 | jetscreamer | i 'think' it just replaces it, but not sure |
| 03:34.21 | wr| | We have to reboot this machine to switch kernels, back in ~5-10 |
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| 03:34.34 | abrotman | adb: and you're using -about, so you never actually see what's in them .. great plan |
| 03:35.08 | puff | I would like to better understand what exactly --set-selections does. |
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| 03:35.48 | puff | ah-hah, this might be useful: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/dpkg-internals/ |
| 03:36.04 | gusto | hi |
| 03:36.15 | puff | Or maybe not. |
| 03:36.18 | puff | gusto: Hi! |
| 03:36.52 | jetscreamer | !greet gusto with gusto |
| 03:36.52 | dpkg | Moo, gusto with gusto |
| 03:37.11 | gusto | thats not funny |
| 03:37.34 | jetscreamer | i tried |
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| 03:43.55 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm chroot'd into a 2nd HDD with an ool etch system on it and it's running a normal update/upgrade at the moment. Can I also do the full upgrade to lenny while in a chroot? |
| 03:44.38 | jpinx-eeepc | or do I have to log in "properly"? |
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| 03:44.45 | youngpro | hey all, hope everyone is well |
| 03:45.44 | youngpro | i am wondering if someone can help me find a backup solution, i have a number of debian machines in our network that need to be backed up regularly while active, is there something i can use that i could easily restore to a machine if it were to die, i have tried googling but i cant find what i want |
| 03:45.45 | youngpro | thanks |
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| 03:51.46 | dkr | youngpro: I use rdiff-backup |
| 03:51.47 | liable | !backup |
| 03:51.47 | dpkg | methinks backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or ... |
| 03:51.55 | liable | bah |
| 03:52.16 | liable | if you apt-cache search backup, you get a fair few hits |
| 03:52.21 | dkr | yeah, kind of a silly factoid |
| 03:52.41 | liable | i was sure it actually used to be usefull at one point |
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| 03:59.19 | dalias | anyone know why http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/PackagesIndex is a 404? |
| 03:59.36 | dalias | problem seems same on all mirrors and i cannot apt-get update because of it |
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| 03:59.59 | dalias | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/PackagesIndex MD5Sum mismatch |
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| 04:01.23 | Grunge_ | hi |
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| 04:01.37 | Grunge_ | i have a question aboud kde4 :s |
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| 04:01.50 | Grunge_ | kde4.debian.net didnt work |
| 04:02.00 | Grunge_ | so ic ant install kde4 .... |
| 04:02.04 | Grunge_ | cant* |
| 04:03.32 | adb | dalias, your source are wrong |
| 04:04.58 | dalias | it's worked for a long time like this... |
| 04:04.59 | dalias | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib |
| 04:05.30 | Grunge_ | hmm ok thank :) |
| 04:05.51 | dalias | did something change? |
| 04:06.08 | Grunge_ | yeah its work |
| 04:06.24 | adb | dalias, ok , but never saw asking that PackagesIndex on mirrors |
| 04:06.25 | Grunge_ | but everywhere i read kde4.debian.net |
| 04:08.17 | adb | Grunge_, maybe is a temporary unavailable , so try later |
| 04:08.17 | jetscreamer | dalias: that works for me , or did.. mine are all ftp://ftp though now |
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| 04:09.50 | jpinx-eeepc | can I do a etch->lenny while in a chroot? |
| 04:10.11 | oh_noes | anyone know of a good article that explains the different journal modes in ext3? I have a problem with losing data on a EXT3 server running a transactional database. |
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| 04:16.59 | liable | oh_noes: man tune2fs? |
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| 04:19.02 | sepult | tune2fs -e remount-ro, tune2fs -J journal_data_writeback |
| 04:19.21 | sepult | add nobh to the mount options |
| 04:19.48 | sepult | sync manually from time to time |
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| 04:22.03 | sepult | maybe add mand too, for mandatory locks |
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| 04:29.38 | dalias | jetscreamer, i'm on a very-high-latency conn (0.5-15 second ping times) so ftp would be insanely slow |
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| 04:30.49 | dalias | sepult, mandatory lock is generally not a desirable feature unless you use broken apps that want it |
| 04:31.06 | dalias | it has nothing to do with protecting your data |
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| 04:32.51 | dalias | *sigh* i wish apt had an rsync transport for package lists |
| 04:33.12 | dalias | both full download and diffs are so slow |
| 04:34.55 | nevyn | I thougth someone wrote such a thing. |
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| 04:37.19 | dalias | 30-45 minutes to apt-get update really sucks when downloading the package i want would only take 10 minutes |
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| 04:45.16 | dalias | maybe, can't find it tho |
| 04:45.33 | dalias | all i can find is idiots arguing why rsync is stupid because .debs are compressed |
| 04:45.46 | dalias | when the whold point is to use rsync for packages index, not for debs.... |
| 04:46.37 | dalias | oh well |
| 04:46.46 | dalias | for some reason the update worked this time |
| 04:47.04 | dalias | but that file is still 404 |
| 04:47.25 | dalias | i wonder if apt-get just mistakenly sticks the word "Index" on the end of the string and it's really trying to get "Packages" |
| 04:48.01 | puff | Argh... anybody know the guts of dpkg? |
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| 04:48.28 | puff | So I did dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt, scp to new box, dpkg --get-selections < selections.txt. Then tried sudo aptitude --download-only install. |
| 04:48.40 | puff | Aptitude gave me all sorts of warnings about dependency conflicts, so I canceled out without installing anythin. |
| 04:48.55 | puff | I'd like to now undo the --set-selections and just go back to how the system was originally. |
| 04:48.57 | puff | Is this doable? |
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| 04:50.53 | Usuario958 | Does the network install CD have PCMCIA drivers on it? |
| 04:51.53 | adb | usually yes |
| 04:52.15 | Usuario958 | Okay, I'm going to try and install lenny on a Thinpad 600E. |
| 04:52.25 | adb | !Thinpad |
| 04:52.28 | Usuario958 | All it has is an atheros PCMCIA nic. |
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| 04:52.40 | Usuario958 | Thinkpad even. :) |
| 04:52.41 | adb | !Thinkpad |
| 04:52.41 | dpkg | [thinkpad] one of the best laptops you can buy, or a thing that dies when your car hits it, according to abrotman. Some models restrict MiniPCI card use, see http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card . See also <hdapsd>, <martian>, <mwavem>, <synaptics>, <tpb>, <trackpoint>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad http://www.thinkwiki.org/ ##ibmthinkpad on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 04:57.00 | dalias | alright well my apt is working for now, so bye guys |
| 04:57.04 | puff | Anyome? |
| 04:57.14 | dalias | puff, sorry, i don't know... |
| 04:57.24 | dalias | if its a new system reinstalling might just be best |
| 04:57.30 | puff | I have a thinkpad t43p, it's awesome, typing on it now. Last of the pre-chinese thinkpads. Unfortunately the chinese seem to be mucking with it. |
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| 04:57.42 | dalias | i wouldnt be surprised... |
| 04:57.48 | dalias | asus eeepc is my fav laptop |
| 04:58.09 | dalias | first i've every owned where i've been heppy with the sturdiness of the build, and the batt life |
| 04:58.48 | dalias | i have one of the "big" ones tho (1000he), not the reallly tiny older ones |
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| 05:02.13 | Usuario958 | Okay, it sees that I have a wireless card, but it isn't setting it up with DHCP successfully. What should I do? |
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| 05:04.26 | Usuario958 | skipped network configuration. |
| 05:05.03 | adb | don't have wired network ? use it instead |
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| 05:09.02 | johni | Usuario958, that is usually a sign that encryption is not setup properly |
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| 05:11.34 | Ninjix | hello all |
| 05:12.03 | Usuario958 | johni: I have no encryption. |
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| 05:13.22 | johni | so your router is not setup with wep or wpa ? |
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| 05:14.53 | Usuario958 | johni: Correct. |
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| 05:20.26 | Usuario958 | johni: Can you help me get the wireless working sans encryption? |
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| 05:20.56 | Ninjix | Anyone here have any experience with Intel ICH10R "fakeraid" in production environments? |
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| 05:22.18 | johni | Usuario958, I can try ... can you see the card is operational? |
| 05:22.41 | Usuario958 | johni: One sec, booting up for the first time from the new install. |
| 05:22.54 | johni | Ninjix, why do you call it fake raid? |
| 05:23.01 | Usuario958 | johni: The card is lit, as in active, but not flashing as it does when connected. |
| 05:23.32 | johni | Usuario958, the light does not mean much |
| 05:23.48 | johni | Usuario958, can you try a ping on google.com or yahoo.com? |
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| 05:23.59 | Usuario958 | johni: the kernel saw the Atheros chipset. |
| 05:24.22 | johni | Usuario958, that should not be a problem |
| 05:24.23 | Usuario958 | johni: It's not been set up by DJCP yet. |
| 05:24.34 | Usuario958 | is still booting. |
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| 05:25.00 | johni | Usuario958, are you using network manager? |
| 05:25.20 | Usuario958 | johni: Nothing yet, it's still booting... |
| 05:25.50 | Usuario958 | johni: Okay, booted and logged in as root. |
| 05:26.02 | Usuario958 | johni: ifconfig shows the wlan0 interface unconfigured. |
| 05:26.27 | Usuario958 | johni: How do I run DHCP client on it? |
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| 05:27.03 | johni | Usuario958, try installing network manager ; that might be the easiest path to get the network going |
| 05:27.10 | Usuario958 | only has command line so far. |
| 05:27.14 | johni | http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ |
| 05:27.28 | Usuario958 | johni: Um, wouldn't I need netork to install that? |
| 05:27.33 | johni | Usuario958, do you plan on installing gnome or kde? |
| 05:28.05 | Usuario958 | johni: No. |
| 05:28.21 | Usuario958 | johni: I have 128M or RAM and a 400mhz processor... |
| 05:28.26 | Usuario958 | of RAM |
| 05:28.45 | johni | Usuario958, ok then, let me find some documentation on how to setup the network from command line |
| 05:28.58 | Usuario958 | johni: Thanks! |
| 05:29.14 | johni | http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking |
| 05:29.31 | johni | Usuario958, there is a section mid-page about ubuntu/debian |
| 05:29.47 | johni | Usuario958, since you do not have a encryption just writing the ssid should suffice |
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| 05:30.31 | johni | Usuario958, in the config exempl you need to replace eth0 with wlan0 (if that is what you have) |
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| 05:34.07 | Usuario958 | johni: That did it! |
| 05:34.10 | Usuario958 | :) |
| 05:34.41 | johni | Usuario958, good :) happy to hear that |
| 05:34.44 | Usuario958 | johni: Now, how do I run that initial program where I tell it I want it to install a desktop system? |
| 05:35.08 | johni | Usuario958, just out of curiosity what do you plan on doing with that computer? |
| 05:35.09 | adb | Usuario958, gnome ? |
| 05:35.12 | Usuario958 | johni: You know the one I mean? |
| 05:35.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | tsaksel |
| 05:35.18 | Usuario958 | tasksel! |
| 05:35.19 | johni | Usuario958, I think it will choke on gnome, do not install it |
| 05:35.22 | Usuario958 | That's the one! |
| 05:35.26 | adb | no tasksel! |
| 05:35.27 | Usuario958 | I won't. |
| 05:35.32 | adb | is to hard |
| 05:35.46 | Usuario958 | xfce should suffice. |
| 05:36.05 | adb | icewm |
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| 05:36.18 | johni | Usuario958, I go even lower than that ... try http://www.enlightenment.org/ |
| 05:36.19 | Usuario958 | Huh, it only lets me choose individual pakcages? |
| 05:36.46 | acu | I have a lenny server working fine - I would like to completely mirror this lenny with same applications and settings - but with squeeze |
| 05:37.08 | Usuario958 | johni: Oh, sources.list isn't set up yet. |
| 05:37.12 | johni | Usuario958, d16 with slim ( as the login manager) |
| 05:37.16 | johni | sorry |
| 05:37.20 | acu | I have a spare disk of exactly the same as the original - can anyone sugest how to do it |
| 05:37.26 | johni | Usuario958, e16 + slim |
| 05:37.52 | johni | Usuario958, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=e16 |
| 05:38.12 | jetscreamer | icewm ftw |
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| 05:38.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | e>* |
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| 05:39.37 | jetscreamer | acu you could just dd it and upgrade to squeeze or just install fresh, or... |
| 05:39.42 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 05:39.42 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
| 05:40.19 | jetscreamer | !debian clone |
| 05:40.19 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup>. |
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| 05:42.52 | hanibana | How can i see the effect of changing some settings in /etc/modprobe.d/ without rebooting? for example, I want to disable IPv6 without reboot. |
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| 05:44.10 | liable | just unload the module |
| 05:44.19 | liable | !noipv6 |
| 05:44.19 | dpkg | [noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny and Etch: echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option "ipv6.disable=1" to your bootloader. |
| 05:44.24 | acu | jetscreamer how can I dd it ? what do I need installed |
| 05:44.31 | liable | hmm, maybe you do have to now |
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| 05:46.44 | hanibana | liable: rmmod ipv6 : ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use |
| 05:46.49 | jetscreamer | dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/new/hd/ |
| 05:46.52 | hanibana | and is it safe to use -f ? |
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| 05:59.53 | Dominique | hi! I just installed debian lenny, but i'm not able to connect to the internet. I can't even ping the gateway, and i'm sure my /etc/network/interfaces is configured correctly! Pls help |
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| 06:02.53 | Dominique | hi! I just installed debian lenny, but i'm not able to connect to the internet. I can't even ping the gateway, and i'm sure my /etc/network/interfaces is configured correctly! Pls help |
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| 06:04.29 | Dominique | hi! I just installed debian lenny, but i'm not able to connect to the internet. I can't even ping the gateway, and i'm sure my /etc/network/interfaces is configured correctly! Pls help |
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| 06:09.05 | Dominique | hi! I just installed debian lenny, but i'm not able to connect to the internet. I can't even ping the gateway, and i'm sure my /etc/network/interfaces is configured correctly! Pls help |
| 06:11.24 | Shadur | Dominique: Does the interface and address show up when you type ip addr ls? |
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| 06:11.59 | Shadur | What's a good value for CONCURRENCY_LEVEL? Equal to the number of CPUs seen in /proc/cpuinfo, or higher? |
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| 06:12.51 | NiLon | I would like to make temporary port forwarding on machine and still keep real port functional but I can't really figure out how, using netcat like nc -l -p 9000 | nc -vv 127.0.0.1 80 (for http example) is only working to one direction as excepted, but I need bidirectional connection |
| 06:13.01 | simonrvn | !tell Dominique -about repeat |
| 06:13.02 | Dominique | shadur hmm... lemme check... brb |
| 06:13.43 | Dominique | ty simonrvn... i'm new here... |
| 06:14.05 | NiLon | !tell NiLon -about repeat |
| 06:14.30 | Shadur | NiLon: Use iptables and NAT |
| 06:15.08 | NiLon | Shadur I'm looking something that can be done preatty easily and removed after 10min use :p |
| 06:15.21 | Shadur | NiLon: Again, iptables. |
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| 06:15.41 | NiLon | and iptabled requires you to be root? |
| 06:16.05 | NiLon | there is first problem right there |
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| 06:16.23 | simonrvn | !tell NiLon -about selftell |
| 06:16.38 | simonrvn | NiLon: um, yes. or use sudo... |
| 06:17.00 | Shadur | NiLon: If you aren't the systems administrator you really don't have any business setting up port forwarding on that machine |
| 06:17.14 | jmarsden | NiLon: ssh -L option can work for high ports without being root, I think |
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| 06:18.05 | Dominique | shadur yea... the interface and address show up. can see eth0 listed and my IP as under inet <ipaddr>. though i can't make any sense of it... |
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| 06:18.36 | NiLon | Shadur well I'm admin but I might not have access to root stuff and all what I wanna do is to make connection to port that is blocked for temporal use |
| 06:18.44 | Shadur | Dominique: Then check the cable and your settings. |
| 06:19.00 | Usuario958 | I've got a new install on an olf Thinkpad 600E with atheros wireless card. The network was working fine, but isn't anymore? It all looks okay, but is unable to get out. |
| 06:19.04 | Usuario958 | Any ideas? |
| 06:19.06 | Shadur | If you don't have root access, you're not the admin. |
| 06:19.10 | Shadur | departs workward. |
| 06:19.14 | NiLon | port doesn't matter, it can be totally random but I will check that ssh -L |
| 06:19.24 | NiLon | Shadur we can agree so if you like |
| 06:19.33 | Dominique | hmm... it's connecting in windows... its this connection i'm using to run the IRC client... |
| 06:20.01 | Usuario958 | johni: Still here? |
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| 06:27.00 | bullgard4 | Is the CD »debian gnu/linux 5.0.0 "lenny" - official i386 cd binary-1 20090214-16:29« a live CD? |
| 06:27.04 | privatix | just insalledlenny 5.0.3and forsonereason cannot get the ' key to work any suggestionsplease |
| 06:28.33 | privatix | worked ok in testing |
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| 06:29.23 | jmarsden | bullgard4: Not as far as I know. Debian CDs are install CDs, not LiveCDs. |
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| 06:30.08 | bullgard4 | jmarsden: Thank you very much for your help. |
| 06:30.16 | jmarsden | bullgard4: No problem. |
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| 06:31.06 | privatix | need this key to work if doing things like LDFLAGS='-static -s' for any suggestions please |
| 06:31.26 | jmarsden | privatix: Did you choose an appropriate keyboard layout during the install process? Is your keyboard an unusual layout? |
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| 06:35.26 | privatix | jmarsden:it was an automatic install from the 5.0.3 cd(630mb) when I installed debian testing from a small cd(168mb)that was ok but I want a stable system , no I did not choose the keyboard on this install it was not in expert mode my keyboard is not an unusual layout |
| 06:37.08 | privatix | at the moment I am running privatixfrom auab which is lenny really but on my hard drive i have lenny with server no X |
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| 06:37.18 | privatix | a usb |
| 06:37.27 | jmarsden | privatix: If your install included X, you can run xev in a terminal window and see if it notices presses of ' ... ah, no X... |
| 06:38.38 | jmarsden | privatix: Try typing ' and then a vowel... such as e -- I am wondering if somehow the keyboard selected uses ' as a "dead key" for creating accented letters?? |
| 06:40.51 | jmarsden | privatix: You can also try using dpkg-reconfigure console-data (I think it is!) to reconfigure your keyboard layout, and see if that helps. |
| 06:42.20 | privatix | jmarsden: ok i will try that are you sure its console-data ? |
| 06:42.45 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
| 06:43.47 | privatix | jmarsden: will that give me some options and if so what options will it give me as I have done that before |
| 06:45.03 | jmarsden | privatix: It should let you choose any keyboard layout it knows about... which is plenty... :) worst case set it to the US default one (even if you are not in the USA), and see if the ' key works then... if so, do it agian and find the right layout for your keyboard :) |
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| 06:46.03 | privatix | jmarsden: ok i will give it a try thanks |
| 06:46.20 | jmarsden | privatix: No problem. |
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| 06:55.04 | papul | hi i want to add another source in sources.list file |
| 06:56.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | we won't stop you |
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| 07:01.02 | hoo-hah | hi guys, how do i configure the frequency of ntpdate, or ntpd lookups? |
| 07:02.31 | wademurray | hoo-hah: you might try running 'man ntp.conf' if you already have ntp installed |
| 07:02.53 | wademurray | hoo-hah: i think what you're looking for in that man page is 'minpoll' and 'maxpoll' |
| 07:02.54 | hoo-hah | wademurray: but will it document debian-specific config files? |
| 07:03.27 | wademurray | hoo-hah: i believe it should, i could be wrong though :-| |
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| 07:04.40 | simonrvn | NTP.CONF(5) The Network Time Protocol (NTP) Distribution NTP.CONF(5) |
| 07:05.25 | wademurray | yeah, i think that's what i was looking at |
| 07:05.37 | hoo-hah | ah no, sorry. I found that I'm actually using openntpd |
| 07:05.52 | hoo-hah | and the manpage for ntpd.conf doesn't mention polling |
| 07:06.50 | wademurray | sorry, i was thinking about the client. just ntp |
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| 07:07.23 | simonrvn | opennttp != ntp |
| 07:07.31 | hoo-hah | yeah, sorry |
| 07:07.50 | simonrvn | erm, openntp even |
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| 07:25.54 | Pierreb | got some trouble with logrotation |
| 07:26.25 | Pierreb | it works perfect with i run logrotate -v /etc/logrotate.d/zabbix-server |
| 07:26.32 | Pierreb | but it refuse to do it by itself |
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| 07:27.24 | Pierreb | http://www.pastebin.org/59554 output i get |
| 07:28.13 | Pierreb | ls -ahl from the directory where logs are http://www.pastebin.org/59555 |
| 07:28.21 | Pierreb | cd /etc |
| 07:28.22 | Pierreb | ops |
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| 07:29.03 | Pierreb | http://www.pastebin.org/59556 the logrotate.d file |
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| 07:32.32 | f00bar80 | adb, are you there ? |
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| 07:34.13 | f00bar80 | hello anybody there ? |
| 07:34.16 | rzimmermann | yes |
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| 07:41.56 | MJBrune | so back to my problem. |
| 07:42.25 | MJBrune | again if I type "ping test" it automatically redirects it to "test.mydomain.com" |
| 07:42.29 | MJBrune | i want it NOT to do that |
| 07:44.03 | frostschutz | MJBrune: then define something else for test in your hosts file |
| 07:44.18 | MJBrune | frostschutz: but this effects any one worded domain |
| 07:44.35 | catsup_ | MJBrune: right, that's the 'search' param in your resolv.conf |
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| 07:45.10 | MJBrune | catsup_: i dont have a search param in my resolv.conf |
| 07:45.14 | catsup_ | oh |
| 07:45.30 | catsup_ | well see the section in resolv.conf(5) "domain Local domain name." |
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| 07:46.31 | f00bar80 | rzimmermann, after i installed debian from usb on my notebook hard disk using net-install, i got the number 3 on a black screen when rebooting, i used dsl and mounted my hd to /mnt/foo and found inside /mnt/foo/boot/grub/device.map (hd0) /dev/sda and (hd1) /dev/sdc the last should be my harddisk, this is after the debian installer disk partition, |
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| 07:46.48 | MJBrune | catsup_: this doesn't make sense |
| 07:47.24 | MJBrune | i dont have any search or domain set |
| 07:47.35 | catsup_ | it explains how the defaults are taken from your hostname |
| 07:47.35 | MJBrune | i just have my hostname set |
| 07:47.54 | MJBrune | i saw. |
| 07:47.56 | f00bar80 | rzimmermann, does this mean that grub is installed on the sda mbr which is my usb stick, if yes just what i have to do to fix this is modify these entries to make (hd0) /dev/sdc <- mu HD ? |
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| 07:48.46 | MJBrune | catsup_: it just makes no sense why it would default to anything being one word would automatically append my domain |
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| 07:50.04 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ???? |
| 07:50.12 | catsup_ | MJBrune: just remove the . from your hostname and it won't |
| 07:50.27 | catsup_ | i mean make it mydomain instead of mydomain.com |
| 07:51.12 | catsup_ | or try options ndots:0 |
| 07:52.25 | catsup_ | to bed with me |
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| 07:56.47 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ?? |
| 07:58.32 | Spixx | f00bar80: I think that is the case, the usb got mounted as the first hdd, try and use a cd if possible to do a easy workaround :P |
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| 08:01.34 | f00bar80 | Spixx, can't i reinstall grub on the main hd mbr, i don't have a cd in by notebook , it's windbook u100 |
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| 08:02.02 | Raven737 | Hi.. quick question: i'm in a netinstall console, how do i mount/access my usb stick? |
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| 08:07.56 | Raven737 | ok so it looks like it's sda1.. but if i try to mount that i get an error.. it's fat32, could that be why? |
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| 08:09.44 | Desdic | Hi all .. anyone using Debian on vmware has know any good options for keeping the time ? |
| 08:10.01 | Desdic | I have tried clocksource=pit nohz=off but its still drifting |
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| 08:13.01 | darkblue_B | why dont you let it synch with a timeserver? |
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| 08:17.39 | Desdic | well it is syncing with a timeserver but still drifiting |
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| 08:32.41 | jmarsden | Desdic: Have you read http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf ? |
| 08:33.11 | Desdic | jmarsden: yes and it works great with Redhat and Suse |
| 08:33.17 | Desdic | jmarsden: just not Debian |
| 08:33.29 | Desdic | I even tried with Ubuntu options to my kernel |
| 08:33.32 | Desdic | still no luck |
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| 08:35.12 | jmarsden | Ah. I wonder what kernel patches Redhat and Suse use to make it work for them? And whether Debian kernel folks would be interested in adding those patches... |
| 08:35.26 | Raven737 | Hi.. if i have a old stable and a newer backport package, which should i use? |
| 08:35.41 | Desdic | it seems to be fixed in 2.6.27 buts that is not stable yet in Debian |
| 08:35.53 | Desdic | 2.6.28 that is |
| 08:36.25 | jmarsden | Desdic: Ah, OK. So you could probably use squeeze and it would be fine... but that doesn't help if you need Lenny for production servers. |
| 08:36.53 | Desdic | I do :( |
| 08:37.07 | jmarsden | Raven737: It's up to you, if you want newness and can take a small risk of it introducing a new bug, use the backport. |
| 08:37.13 | Desdic | I have about 500 lennys running in production and time is a big issue |
| 08:38.07 | Dominique_ | I have a problem connecting to the internet. I just installed debian with kernel version 2.6.26-2-686. I configured the network manually during the installation with static IP. The generated /etc/network/interfaces has the following code: http://pastebin.com/m26524dbe and the output of "ip addr ls" has the line http://pastebin.com/m4c8b51e0 . If i ping the gateway, i do not get anything, not even "Host Unreachable"... what am i doing wrong? |
| 08:38.15 | Raven737 | jmarsden: But will it cuase problems if i don't have a backport source and i want to for example do a dist upgrade? |
| 08:38.57 | jmarsden | Desdic: That's a lot of VMs :) If you could find the relevant kernel patch, one option might be to apply it to a Lenny kernel and create your own Lenny+fix kernel and deploy that ? |
| 08:39.17 | jmarsden | Raven737: It shouldn't cause a problem for upgrades later, no. |
| 08:39.18 | Desdic | jmarsden: yes I'd love to .. just need to find the patch :) |
| 08:39.34 | Raven737 | jmarsden: ok, thanks! :) |
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| 08:41.17 | jmarsden | Desdic: OK. Is there any chance grepping for vmware in the squeeze kernel sources will find it?? or maybe in the RedHat kernel sources, and then look in the same place(s) in the Debian kernel tree? |
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| 08:42.13 | Desdic | jmarsden: hmm maybe :) I just thought I was lucky that someone had the same problem as I :) |
| 08:43.09 | valdyn | jmarsden: should be able to find it in the kernel git repo |
| 08:44.32 | jmarsden | valdyn: Probably... last time I had to mess with kernel sources, the kernel didn't use git... I'm showing my age :) :) |
| 08:44.49 | valdyn | jmarsden: use the web interface... |
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| 08:45.19 | jmarsden | valdyn: Well, it is Desdic who needs the patch, so I'll let him do the work of finding it... |
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| 08:46.57 | dmoerner | complex installer question: i have 2 hard disks in my computer, and i want to use lvm to span both of them. but each thinks it's under the control of an lvm with the active pv as the OTHER one. so one disk thinks it's under the control of "vg1" and the other under the control of "vg2". but I can't delete EITHER in the installer. |
| 08:47.19 | dmoerner | is there some way to just wipe the memory of the lvms from these drives without totally zeroing them? they're ssd's so i'd rather not do that |
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| 08:49.11 | simonrvn | probably some cache files in /etc/lvm |
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| 08:49.55 | valdyn | dmoerner: pvremove does not work? |
| 08:51.19 | valdyn | dmoerner: iirc pv labels are at the end of the block device anyway, they could be deleted with dd too |
| 08:51.52 | slackerr | hi all. i have trouble with fglrx drivers in lenny. now i'm searching what is Xserver errorcode with: |
| 08:51.52 | slackerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.52 | slackerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.52 | slackerr | at this time google not give me answer.. |
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| 08:52.24 | dmoerner | i tried to remove the cache files as simonrvn suggested, and now the installer still thinks that the vg's exist. but now vgremove and pvremove think there's nothing at all |
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| 08:52.34 | dmoerner | i'll try restarting again to see if it repopulates with the old lvm data |
| 08:53.19 | slackerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.30 | Dominique_ | I have a problem connecting to the internet. I just installed debian with kernel version 2.6.26-2-686. I configured the network manually during the installation with static IP. The generated /etc/network/interfaces has the following code: http://pastebin.com/m26524dbe and the output of "ip addr ls" has the line http://pastebin.com/m4c8b51e0 . If i ping the gateway, i do not get anything, not even "Host Unreachable"... what am i doing wrong? |
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| 08:54.05 | valdyn | Dominique_: probably nothing, your gateway firewall could be dropping packets |
| 08:54.36 | Dominique_ | valdyn i'm able to connect from windows pcs and ubuntu |
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| 08:55.47 | valdyn | Dominique_: NO-CARRIER |
| 08:56.09 | valdyn | Dominique_: no cable / broken cable / broken hardware link |
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| 08:56.34 | Dominique_ | i've plugged in the same cable to connect and run this IRC client... |
| 08:57.09 | dmoerner | mmm something in my playing with fdisk fixed it anyway, thanks valdyn and simonrvn |
| 08:57.16 | simonrvn | dmoerner: :) |
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| 08:59.13 | simonrvn | Dominique_: check dmesg / /var/log/dmesg for that device |
| 08:59.26 | simonrvn | and syslog too while you're there |
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| 09:04.49 | Spixx | f00bar80: sorry I'm at work atm so I cannot allways reply? How does it fair when booting after install? Can you get to terminal? |
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| 09:07.10 | Dominique | simonrvn: /var/log/dmesg looks okay, but i found these lines in /var/log/syslog: "link is up at 100Mbps, full duplex", "Flow Control is off for TX and off for RX" !! |
| 09:07.23 | Dominique | !hi |
| 09:07.23 | dpkg | hello, dominique |
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| 09:11.52 | slackerr | i'm on lenny with 2.6.26-2-amd64. last half of year i used custom made kernel fglrx by install drivers using sgfxi. everything was fine. but last time at 9-11 driver something goes wrong - ati installer segfaults with 'glibc double free or corruption pointer' and no fglrx kernel module generation. rollback to previous drivers has the same corruption effect. some bad things in system happens at last update(but i'm still on stable now). has an |
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| 09:12.56 | simonrvn | Dominique: well, the latter msg i would say is your problem. now find out what it is. can you ping that device (ip address)? if you can, look at software problems. |
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| 09:14.19 | poppy_bsd | how do i online-resize large disks? this faq http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions says that there's a limit of around 4TB |
| 09:14.39 | poppy_bsd | large filesystems, that is |
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| 09:15.08 | poppy_bsd | i want to be able to resize a 4TB ext4 to 5.5TB with online resize |
| 09:15.34 | Dominique | simonrvn: i can't ping the gateway from debian. I don't get a reply, nor does it say host unreachable. it just stays with nothing happening untill i hit CTRL+C. |
| 09:15.56 | simonrvn | i didn't say gateway, i said the device's ip address |
| 09:16.27 | simonrvn | please read what people tell you |
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| 09:19.12 | Dominique | simonrvn. err sry...I don't actually have access to the network except from this one line. |
| 09:20.27 | simonrvn | i'm sorry but i didn't understand what you meant by "from this one line". line as in link, or ..? |
| 09:23.32 | Dominique | simonrvn: this is the ISP's network. I'm trying to connect to the internet, and I have only the line accessible at the moment. I can connect from windows though. The ISP would help as he says it's the client machine's fault. |
| 09:23.58 | simonrvn | oh i see |
| 09:23.59 | Dominique | simonrvn: *the isp wouldn't help |
| 09:24.08 | simonrvn | *nods* |
| 09:24.14 | Shadur | What's a good value for CONCURRENCY_LEVEL? Equal to the number of CPUs seen in /proc/cpuinfo, or higher? |
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| 09:24.34 | simonrvn | equal to is usually what people use |
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| 09:26.10 | simonrvn | Dominique: is there a route at all? |
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| 09:27.28 | Dominique | simonrvn sry didn't quite get u! I'm able to plug the cable into my windows PC and connect to the internet. |
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| 09:28.16 | simonrvn | the box, can you see a default route, or any at all |
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| 09:28.55 | Dominique | i can see the box... |
| 09:29.04 | linuxdoctor | hello! |
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| 09:32.12 | simonrvn | ok, never mind, i'm obviously not getting the problem. sorry. hopefully someone else can help. |
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| 09:33.16 | Dominique | hmm... ty anyways simonrvn |
| 09:33.27 | simonrvn | good luck |
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| 09:37.38 | SPF | how can I automaticly check if the system uses DES or MD5 encrypted passwords? |
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| 09:39.05 | simonrvn | if the pam.d files say shadow it's md5 (they're very likely to say such as that's been the default for a long time). also check the first 3 characters of the password $1$ means it's md5. |
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| 09:43.57 | SPF | simonrvn: pam.d? I can't see a difference there. Of course I could always check for $1$, but I was wondering if there is an official way |
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| 09:44.17 | simonrvn | what do you mean official? |
| 09:44.29 | SPF | simonrvn: failureproof |
| 09:44.42 | simonrvn | i just told you |
| 09:45.21 | SPF | so, $1$ is failureproof? |
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| 09:47.30 | simonrvn | it always means md5 yes |
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| 09:47.46 | simonrvn | sha1 and other hashes have other things |
| 09:48.03 | SPF | ok, thx |
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| 10:06.40 | cads | hey, is there a distribution of debian that's geared for tighter security, and also tools to debug system reliability issues? |
| 10:06.55 | cads | hrm, that wasn't completely well formed |
| 10:07.53 | cads | right now i'm having a hard time looking through my logs to find traces of some crashes that have been hitting me |
| 10:08.33 | cads | so I'm looking for something that would have those tools, along with the tools to manage encrypted file systems and security policies |
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| 10:11.06 | zaggynl | hi, what course of action should one take with kernel panics? |
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| 10:17.22 | a-s | I want to make linux and Windows work in the same time, but not using a virtual machine |
| 10:17.32 | a-s | is it possbile? |
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| 10:18.44 | Timbauns | is debian using upstart in testing or unstable? |
| 10:18.50 | petemc | a-s: sure, you have 2 computers? |
| 10:18.58 | chellomere | a-s, colinux wuuld be one of the few ways to do that on 1 computer |
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| 10:32.30 | a-s | Timbauns: the lastest stable version |
| 10:32.39 | a-s | sorry, I was a little away |
| 10:32.53 | a-s | I want to use debian & windows XP |
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| 10:33.05 | a-s | no, only 1 computer |
| 10:33.25 | a-s | I want to boot both and commute somehow between win and linux |
| 10:33.57 | a-s | and from linux I wish to be able to see the windows partion in the same time as windows works |
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| 10:34.17 | rozie | a-s: impossible |
| 10:34.33 | nkuttler | a-s: define see |
| 10:34.34 | rozie | well, smb maybe |
| 10:34.55 | nkuttler | a-s: mounting a windows filesystem is easy |
| 10:35.20 | a-s | I do not want to run linux in windows. |
| 10:35.34 | gray_fox | a-s: if you want run windows from linux you can use vmware |
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| 10:35.43 | a-s | no , it is possible to run both in the same time |
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| 10:36.01 | nkuttler | a-s: use virtualbox |
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| 10:37.20 | a-s | nkuttler: thanks |
| 10:37.21 | et | .wc |
| 10:37.23 | et | oops |
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| 10:40.02 | a-s | nkuttler: virtualbox seems what I looked for. How does it boots windows from linux? |
| 10:40.23 | a-s | I tell it the partition on which win is installed, or how? |
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| 10:42.50 | Timbauns | a-s thx for the info |
| 10:44.39 | a-s | Timbauns: sorry :) |
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| 10:46.32 | a-s | Timbauns: sorry, I thought that you asked me what version I use... |
| 10:47.33 | Timbauns | a-s: whatever |
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| 10:48.19 | Wonka | is there a way to search for packages by tag on http://packages.debian.org/? |
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| 10:57.38 | gray_fox | ciao |
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| 11:00.37 | Repox | Hi... Trying to upgrade my debian and are now configuring my samba. But I can't restart samba as I'm used to? /etc/init.d/samba restart doesn't work anymore. Tried looking at samba.org, but I found nothing that helped me. |
| 11:00.48 | a-s | Wonka: yes. |
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| 11:01.16 | a-s | gogle.com : <tag> site: /packages.debian.org |
| 11:01.27 | Wonka | a-s: I tried search for game::fps in package descriptions... |
| 11:01.39 | a-s | google |
| 11:01.54 | Wonka | aargh. using G was not exactly what I thought about :) |
| 11:02.41 | themill | Wonka: http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ssearch.html perhaps? |
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| 11:04.18 | Wonka | themill: ah cool, that's a nice one. |
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| 11:05.19 | power | hi, i wonder what happens when when we enter summer time, and vica-versa |
| 11:05.27 | power | what happens to cronjobs ? |
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| 11:25.30 | rumpsy | is there any software alternate to flex builder |
| 11:27.57 | avu | rumpsy, depends on what you want. if you just need an editor to write mxml/as3 and compile it, you can use pretty much anything as long as you use adobe's mxmlc (haxe would be a free compiler alternative, but that's also a slightly different language (though it produces the same bytecode) |
| 11:28.34 | avu | rumpsy, if you mean the rad stuff (specifically the gui/component builder) then: no |
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| 11:29.17 | rumpsy | hmm, welli'm talking about adobe flex_builder |
| 11:29.18 | avu | rumpsy, if you just mean 'as development', there are quite a few alternatives, fdt for example, or idea |
| 11:29.52 | avu | rumpsy, yes, you said that. and there's many things you can do with flex builder, so I tried guessing what you actually mean.. |
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| 11:30.55 | rumpsy | i need flex_builder for my lenny |
| 11:31.43 | rumpsy | i installed eclipse from debian repo, and now i need flex for RIA |
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| 11:32.08 | avu | rumpsy, don't use the eclipse from the repos. ever. |
| 11:32.20 | rumpsy | Why? |
| 11:32.33 | avu | install a proper sdk (sun or ibm I guess) and then download the IDE from eclipse.org |
| 11:33.12 | avu | rumpsy, the one from the repos won't let you install plugins easily. also IIRC it uses gcj |
| 11:33.17 | avu | and it's not up to date of course |
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| 11:33.48 | avu | rumpsy, but for flex, why use the plugin at all, just download the complete package from adobe |
| 11:33.50 | rumpsy | yes, its older.. 3.2.2 something.. |
| 11:34.11 | avu | rumpsy, although, if you actually want to use flex, why come here asking for alternatives? :) |
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| 11:35.17 | rumpsy | sorry, i searched for flex suit with eclipse 3.2., but its not suits with so i searched for alternatives |
| 11:36.02 | SPF | how do I match a string with '$1$' ? bash sees $1 as a var |
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| 11:36.13 | rumpsy | yes, ofcourse i'm flex_builder3 alpha, but its not suits with eclipse 3.2.2 |
| 11:36.47 | rumpsy | I think it may clear if i install higher version of eclipse, as you said not repo |
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| 11:37.33 | rumpsy | I think it may clear if i install higher version of eclipse, as you said not from repo |
| 11:38.15 | petemc | SPF: escape the special symbols with \ |
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| 11:39.10 | rumpsy | avu: hmm, what happen are you there |
| 11:40.17 | avu | rumpsy, I just lost interest. I told you what to do, you just need to do it |
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| 11:42.51 | rumpsy | avu: sorry :) |
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| 11:46.55 | themill | avu: all those eclipse problems (and more) will soon be fixed in sid. |
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| 11:49.00 | rumpsy | avu: Thank you anyway :) |
| 11:49.03 | rumpsy | bye |
| 11:49.35 | avu | themill, I can't see me using the eclipse from the repositories though |
| 11:50.19 | avu | themill, there are too many plugins that shouldn't be installed in the same eclipse for example, so I keep multiple seperate versions around :) |
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| 11:57.07 | SteppenwolfII | Hi? |
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| 11:58.14 | babilen | hi all! My T60's SATA controller can run in 'AHCI' and 'compatible' mode .. I am using the latter for years now, but tried using AHCI yesterday. This, however, caused boot failures. I have an LVM within an encrypted partition and I got an error that the root vg could not be found. Any ideas what might be necessary to get AHCI to work? |
| 11:58.14 | SteppenwolfII | anyone know how to change inittab to not start with X, rather console |
| 11:58.26 | SteppenwolfII | ? |
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| 11:58.57 | babilen | I forgot the exact error message, but can have a look if this is necessary ... |
| 12:00.12 | TomyLaptop | i'm trying to get the windows behaviour for dead keys (i.e. pressing twice yields two characters instead of one) |
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| 12:00.12 | babilen | SteppenwolfII: remove gdm/xdm from the runlevels in which you don't want it. You can use rcconf to do so for example. |
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| 12:01.13 | TomyLaptop | any ideas? |
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| 12:01.48 | TomyLaptop | cant find an option in kde's control center and i have no clue of setxkbmap |
| 12:01.52 | hoo-hah | SteppenwolfII: default runlevel 2? |
| 12:02.14 | SteppenwolfII | Thanks! Trying to compile NVIDIA driver, which won't compile with X running.. Is it a good idea to replace opensource with NVidia's drivers? |
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| 12:02.38 | TomyLaptop | you can always kill the x server |
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| 12:02.45 | babilen | !tell SteppenwolfII -about nvidia |
| 12:02.48 | TomyLaptop | ctrl alt backspace last time i checked |
| 12:02.55 | SteppenwolfII | there is an option for setting kbd in my kde, keep looking |
| 12:03.00 | hoo-hah | unless nozap is enabled |
| 12:03.09 | babilen | SteppenwolfII: you can also just ctrl-alt-fN to a console and stop gdm/kdm/xdm |
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| 12:03.23 | SteppenwolfII | TomyLaptop, it reruns automatically! |
| 12:03.36 | TomyLaptop | babilen, he said "running", not "in foreground" |
| 12:03.52 | TomyLaptop | SteppenwolfII, ah too bad |
| 12:03.57 | TomyLaptop | no idea then :) |
| 12:04.52 | SteppenwolfII | I regretted using NVIDIA's drivers under other Linuxen |
| 12:04.52 | babilen | SteppenwolfII: log into a console (ctrl-alt-f1) and execute /etc/init.d/kdm as root (assuming you use kdm as login manager) |
| 12:05.04 | babilen | err, make that /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 12:05.12 | SPF | petemc: that doesn't work |
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| 12:06.25 | TomyLaptop | man setxkbmap is really really crappy: most of its options are merely described as "-<option> name Specifies the <option> component used to construct a keyboard layout" |
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| 12:06.42 | TomyLaptop | who writes such manuals -_- |
| 12:06.50 | babilen | TomyLaptop: programmers ... |
| 12:07.14 | SteppenwolfII | hit ctl-alt-backspace, which of course killed my xchat! |
| 12:07.16 | babilen | TomyLaptop: I am not used to the windows behaviour. Could you give me an example of how you would like it to work? |
| 12:07.43 | TomyLaptop | pressing ` twice yields `` |
| 12:08.01 | TomyLaptop | pressing it once doesnt do anything |
| 12:08.24 | TomyLaptop | (unless you follow it with something else) |
| 12:08.29 | SteppenwolfII | sounds like problem with key repeater speed |
| 12:08.33 | TomyLaptop | no |
| 12:09.22 | TomyLaptop | i'm not holding the key, i'm pressing it twice |
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| 12:09.59 | hoo-hah | it's considered a modifier |
| 12:10.03 | hoo-hah | or escape key |
| 12:10.12 | hoo-hah | hitting it twice will escape the escape and print the char |
| 12:10.14 | TomyLaptop | or dead key |
| 12:10.42 | TomyLaptop | well so how do i change that? |
| 12:10.52 | TomyLaptop | so it's like i'm used to |
| 12:11.05 | hoo-hah | where does this happen? |
| 12:11.11 | petemc | SPF: yes it does |
| 12:11.17 | TomyLaptop | where does what happen? |
| 12:11.53 | TomyLaptop | this happens on my laptop with debian lenny, running kde |
| 12:11.59 | hoo-hah | SPF: you're obviously not doing it right |
| 12:12.00 | TomyLaptop | or what do you mean? |
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| 12:13.26 | hoo-hah | TomyLaptop: what's the layout |
| 12:13.31 | SPF | hmm, true. I was expecting $1$, but it seems like it's $6$ |
| 12:13.35 | TomyLaptop | de basic |
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| 12:14.10 | _talon | what netinst dvd and kernel for Intel Xeons? |
| 12:14.25 | hoo-hah | TomyLaptop: variant? |
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| 12:14.36 | TomyLaptop | basic? |
| 12:14.40 | TomyLaptop | is that a variant? |
| 12:14.42 | hoo-hah | "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" |
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| 12:14.51 | TomyLaptop | i want dead keys |
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| 12:14.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | _talon: x86 64bit? amd64 |
| 12:15.04 | TomyLaptop | `+a should yield à |
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| 12:15.29 | hoo-hah | and ` on it's own should yield ` ? |
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| 12:15.32 | _talon | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, and any particular kernel required? i guess I need the -xen one for the hypervisor |
| 12:15.38 | TomyLaptop | hoo-hah, no |
| 12:15.46 | TomyLaptop | it should pause until i press another key |
| 12:15.52 | TomyLaptop | like a dead key usually does |
| 12:16.23 | _talon | i want to use Debian as dom0 |
| 12:16.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | _talon: dunno. iirc though the -xen kernels are for the clients |
| 12:16.40 | _talon | really... hm |
| 12:17.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | _talon: /msg dpkg xen |
| 12:17.05 | hoo-hah | oh sorry. misread scrollback. I thought you mentioned the (undesired effect), when in fact you were responding to babilen regarding expected effect |
| 12:17.37 | debianite | Hi, are the netinstall images still not working for Squeeze? |
| 12:17.49 | TomyLaptop | i just noticed the problem is a bit bigger than |
| 12:18.05 | TomyLaptop | than just pressing twice |
| 12:18.24 | TomyLaptop | `+f for example should yield `f as well |
| 12:18.43 | TomyLaptop | i.e. invalid dead key combinations should yield the literal two keys |
| 12:18.56 | TomyLaptop | that's the windows behaviour |
| 12:19.36 | TomyLaptop | and i'm very much used to it, exploiting it all the time and it would be hard for me to adapt :) |
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| 12:20.15 | hoo-hah | TomyLaptop: i have the feeling it's KDE related |
| 12:20.20 | babilen | debianite: I installed from the squeeze amd64 netinst into a VM yesterday night and it worked. |
| 12:20.24 | hoo-hah | TomyLaptop: http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1908 |
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| 12:20.58 | hoo-hah | TomyLaptop: are your locale settings intact? |
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| 12:21.05 | TomyLaptop | in a way it is X related |
| 12:21.14 | TomyLaptop | on the console dead keys dont work at all |
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| 12:21.25 | TomyLaptop | i.e. nodeadkeys on the console |
| 12:21.30 | hoo-hah | well you'd need to enable that |
| 12:21.44 | TomyLaptop | yeah but i cba since i dont use the console :) |
| 12:21.56 | TomyLaptop | except via console emulation from X |
| 12:21.57 | privatix | jmarsden: areyou here |
| 12:22.00 | hoo-hah | there are guides for that sort of thing |
| 12:22.12 | hoo-hah | cba? |
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| 12:22.20 | hoo-hah | is that a turn on CBF? |
| 12:22.20 | TomyLaptop | cannot be asked |
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| 12:23.34 | hoo-hah | $LANG and $LC_ALL ? |
| 12:24.05 | TomyLaptop | LC_ALL is empty |
| 12:24.17 | TomyLaptop | LANG is en_GB.UTF-8 |
| 12:24.30 | TomyLaptop | german translations usually suck :) |
| 12:25.09 | ootput | it's not a bad idea to setup console, either |
| 12:25.22 | TomyLaptop | i will never use it |
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| 12:25.32 | TomyLaptop | and if i do, i will not care about dead keys |
| 12:25.45 | ootput | cool |
| 12:25.48 | TomyLaptop | it's set to german layout and that's good enough |
| 12:26.20 | hoo-hah | would setting LC_ALL help? |
| 12:26.37 | TomyLaptop | i have no idea |
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| 12:26.45 | privatix | ok it was suggeated today that I do dpkg-reconfigure console-data because a key on my labtop was not working I changed to atarti-american or something like that now when I log in to seamless lenny server thr return key does now work and in single user mode nothing works just gibberish on command line suggestions please |
| 12:26.48 | hoo-hah | Try it and see |
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| 12:27.38 | hoo-hah | privatix: you changed entire layout for one malfunctioning key? |
| 12:27.52 | hoo-hah | why atarti-american? |
| 12:28.25 | TomyLaptop | no i dont think it'll help. that's for encoding and language and all that |
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| 12:28.50 | TomyLaptop | also what would i set it to? |
| 12:29.00 | hoo-hah | it won't help? |
| 12:29.11 | privatix | hoo_hah: my mistake i need this this key here it is ' i use it in this context LDFLAGS='-static -s' |
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| 12:29.17 | hoo-hah | and again, it could be kde-related, how about trying a basic WM? |
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| 12:30.00 | TomyLaptop | it's the same in xterm |
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| 12:30.20 | TomyLaptop | but that probably doesnt matter, right? |
| 12:30.28 | hoo-hah | u got it |
| 12:30.55 | poncha | guys... i donno what to do ;) i get "No such file or directory" error when trying to run a file which is definitely there, and definitely has read and execute permissions on itself, and on all the path to it... how is this possible? |
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| 12:31.08 | TomyLaptop | i guess i'll try #kde then |
| 12:31.12 | privatix | hoo-hah: how can i change this or do something via the install cd? |
| 12:31.24 | themill | poncha: is it a script? |
| 12:31.31 | poncha | no , its a binary |
| 12:31.46 | hoo-hah | poncha: ./binary |
| 12:31.59 | poncha | hoo-hah: same.. |
| 12:32.08 | poncha | i even ran it with strace |
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| 12:33.32 | themill | poncha: what does "file" say about this binary? |
| 12:33.34 | hoo-hah | privatix: I've never tried using the install cd as a rescue cd, so I don't know if it has the tools |
| 12:33.40 | poncha | this results in : execve("./lmutil", ["./lmutil"], [/* 17 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 12:33.49 | poncha | that was from strace |
| 12:33.49 | hoo-hah | privatix: but you'd need to chroot in and re-dpkg-reconfigure console-date |
| 12:33.54 | hoo-hah | *data |
| 12:34.41 | poncha | themill: lmutil: ELF 64-bit LSB executable |
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| 12:35.28 | poncha | ** x86-64 , version 1 (SYSV) , dynamically linked (uses shared libs) |
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| 12:35.39 | themill | poncha: "uname -r" says amd64? |
| 12:35.50 | poncha | yup |
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| 12:36.40 | privatix | hoo-hah: if at the prompt during normal boot the return key does work after i type root or my user name how can I chroot? |
| 12:36.43 | poncha | is it possible to list the libs it is supposedly using? |
| 12:36.51 | poncha | maybe some of them are missing... ? |
| 12:36.51 | themill | poncha: does "ldd ./lmutil" give sensible output? |
| 12:37.31 | themill | poncha: I presume you've not tried to break libc recently, have you? |
| 12:37.53 | hoo-hah | privatix: you mean after keying in password? you shouldn't need to chroot if boot is fine |
| 12:37.57 | hoo-hah | dpkg-reconfigure.. as root |
| 12:38.05 | poncha | i didnt try that ;) but i am not the only one that had access to machine i must add) |
| 12:38.19 | poncha | this is quite fresh install though (yesterday) os |
| 12:38.41 | hoo-hah | poncha: curiously, what's the binary? |
| 12:38.52 | poncha | ldd ./lmutil -> /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: No such file or directory |
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| 12:39.29 | poncha | hoo-hah: thats FLEXlm (license server) utility client (which lets control it) |
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| 12:40.30 | privatix | hoo-hah: if i try to log in with my user name return key does not work in single user mode which I assume the prompt is root I get a lot of gibberish on the command line irrespective of what I type |
| 12:40.51 | qwd | Debian Squeeze AMD64. When doing "aptitude update" I get Current status: 771 new [+8]. |
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| 12:41.41 | qwd | ...and after full-upgrade I still have Current status: 0 broken [+0], 0 updates [+0], 771 new [+0]. why do I have new packages there all the time? |
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| 12:42.50 | poncha | themill: any ideas? |
| 12:43.03 | hoo-hah | privatix: does ^J work? |
| 12:43.28 | hoo-hah | privatix: (in place of <enter>) |
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| 12:44.42 | privatix | hoo-hah: i am on a usb stick install on lenny gnome just now I would have to try and come back again |
| 12:45.35 | hoo-hah | alright |
| 12:45.47 | massmc | fluxbox or xfce is really good in usb |
| 12:45.56 | farri | can someone help me to configure openvpn for opening a connection? I am getting mad |
| 12:46.03 | poncha | and that binary has debugging symbols stripped so i cant even run it under gdb ;( |
| 12:47.50 | privatix | hoo-hah: thanks for your suggestions if what you said does not work first I will see if the cd works --not sure on how the chroot works |
| 12:48.54 | farri | I am trying to open a vpn with openvpn and I keep receiving read UDPv4 [ECONNREFUSED]: Connection refused (code=111) |
| 12:50.00 | privatix | hoo-hah: i could try ssh as the server is running |
| 12:50.14 | hoo-hah | privatix: that's okay. the chroot will allow you to work in a different (legible) environment long enough for you to do the dpkg-reconfigure |
| 12:50.17 | hoo-hah | privatix: that'll work too |
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| 12:50.54 | hoo-hah | not sure if root login is allowed by default |
| 12:51.44 | privatix | hoo-hah:i will be back to let you know |
| 12:52.11 | themill | poncha: any acls? (You're really sure that this file does actually exist, aren't you...) |
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| 12:52.48 | poncha | i am quite sure it exists, i just put it there ;))) |
| 12:53.05 | hoo-hah | do other binaries in the same path work? |
| 12:53.10 | themill | qwd: because you're tracking squeeze, so new packages are coming into the release from unstable all the time |
| 12:53.16 | poncha | yes |
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| 12:53.44 | qwd | themill: ah but that's packages that I don't have installed then so that's why I'm not getting any updates? |
| 12:53.57 | themill | yes |
| 12:54.19 | qwd | themill: thanks! |
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| 12:54.21 | guyzmo | hi |
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| 12:54.36 | guyzmo | I'm configuring apache2 to run with php5 with debian 5 |
| 12:54.39 | poncha | trying to install lsb-core , though it's a metapackage obviousely containing a lot of stuff |
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| 12:54.50 | guyzmo | I installed all php5 packages that are necessary |
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| 12:54.58 | guyzmo | php5 module is enabled |
| 12:55.15 | guyzmo | but I don't have .php pages interpreted |
| 12:55.18 | poncha | yessss!! |
| 12:55.22 | guyzmo | (I have reread manuals and tutorials 5 times before asking ...) |
| 12:55.28 | poncha | something out of lsb-core was missing obviousely |
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| 12:55.30 | themill | dpkg: tell guyzmo about php wants me to download still |
| 12:55.40 | poncha | now the binary is working |
| 12:55.56 | themill | poncha: that's plain weird. |
| 12:56.28 | poncha | themill: well, the fact that file showed it is related to lsb made me wonder and try ;) |
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| 12:57.10 | poncha | thanks themill, hoo-hah! you've been really helpful |
| 12:57.31 | hoo-hah | not really, but np :P |
| 12:57.35 | themill | happy hunting |
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| 13:00.01 | laurentl | how i could extract debian/rules file from a package ? |
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| 13:01.09 | themill | laurentl: easiest way is with apt-get source or dget. |
| 13:01.49 | guyzmo | themill - sorry, but still not working :-S |
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| 13:02.41 | guyzmo | though on 404 I got the PHP line |
| 13:03.09 | themill | ? |
| 13:04.01 | themill | guyzmo: can you pastebin the output of "wget http://your.server/somepage.php" then? (/msg dpkg pastebin) |
| 13:05.15 | MyGame | One manual basic comand in terminal ?????? 'on' |
| 13:06.00 | farri | I am trying to open a vpn with openvpn and I keep receiving read UDPv4 [ECONNREFUSED]: Connection refused (code=111) any help? |
| 13:06.08 | guyzmo | themill - http://paste.lisp.org/+1YJJ |
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| 13:07.22 | themill | guyzmo: did you "a2enmod php5"? And are you using debian's default apache config files? |
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| 13:07.43 | guyzmo | yes and yes |
| 13:08.04 | laurentl | themill: ok thanks |
| 13:08.32 | a-s | I have installed virtualbox on debian, and I do not know how to boot linux on another partition |
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| 13:08.50 | guyzmo | and I rtfm before installing it (because I knew a time when installing apache modules was a hassle) |
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| 13:10.59 | hippomikko | Hi, I need to add a line into .bash_profile on Lenny but I can only find the file .bashrc. Do I just create .bash_profile manually and add my line? |
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| 13:11.16 | egarim | how could I disable a single usb port on my linux laptop ? |
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| 13:14.08 | hoo-hah | I've an fstab entry for sshfs (fuse) that allows my user to mount fine, but umount says mount disagrees with the fstab. su can mount/umount fine |
| 13:14.34 | hoo-hah | is this a limitation of sshfs (fuse)? |
| 13:14.43 | hoo-hah | or a bug? |
| 13:15.25 | ootput | what does /etc/mtab say? |
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| 13:16.12 | hoo-hah | ootput: the optoins are different from what I specify in fstab |
| 13:17.15 | aptiko | Anyone comfortable with advanced networking? Is ifmetric broken? Says "interface 'eth1:1' not existent" when in fact it exists. |
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| 13:17.45 | ootput | hoo-hah: try adding -o fsname=sshfs#user@remote:/mount/path |
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| 13:18.11 | hoo-hah | ootput: so basically the first field sans the preceeding sshfs# ? |
| 13:18.20 | ootput | hoo-hah: yes |
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| 13:20.04 | canolucas | hi. when i write files which have in their name special characters like: á é í ó ú, to a smbfs mounted partition, the name is not correct if i browse the file in windows. |
| 13:20.11 | canolucas | the windows server is using NTFS |
| 13:20.12 | hoo-hah | ootput: no go |
| 13:20.21 | canolucas | and my linux charset is UTF-8 |
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| 13:20.31 | canolucas | mount -t smbfs -o utf-8,username=$USER,password=$PASSWORD //$WINDOMAIN/$SHARE /mnt/$SHARE |
| 13:20.36 | canolucas | is the command i am using |
| 13:20.49 | hoo-hah | canolucas: doesn't windows use windows-1252 |
| 13:21.16 | canolucas | hoo-hah: is that a charset ? |
| 13:21.21 | hoo-hah | yep |
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| 13:22.02 | canolucas | hoo-hah: didn't know that. i knew about UTF-8 and ISO |
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| 13:22.07 | hoo-hah | canolucas: did you set 'dos charset' in /etc/samba/smb.conf? |
| 13:22.23 | awayand | ERROR: problems decoding "x.mp3", anyone else have this problem when running mpc against mpd in daemon mode? |
| 13:22.28 | hoo-hah | canolucas: under globals, you can set display charset to UTF-8, same with unix charset |
| 13:22.37 | hoo-hah | canolucas: but 1255 for dos charset |
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| 13:23.09 | ootput | awayand: nope |
| 13:23.13 | canolucas | hoo-hah: dos charset = 1255 ? |
| 13:23.19 | hoo-hah | yeah |
| 13:23.25 | canolucas | hoo-hah: unix charset = UTF-8 |
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| 13:24.12 | hoo-hah | ^^ |
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| 13:24.35 | canolucas | mount -t smbfs -o iocharset=1255,username=$USER,password=$PASSWORD //$WINDOMAIN/$SHARE /mnt/$SHARE |
| 13:24.36 | canolucas | ? |
| 13:25.19 | hoo-hah | I've never needed to do that |
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| 13:25.39 | farri | anyone here with good knowledge of openvpn and vpn in general? |
| 13:26.20 | ge0rge007 | hello all!!! |
| 13:26.30 | hoo-hah | canolucas: brb gotta address some remote backup scripts |
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| 13:26.42 | parito | farri depends what you need |
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| 13:27.11 | farri | parito: I am trying to establish a vpn connection with a server |
| 13:27.16 | Titan8990_ | farri, #openvpn |
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| 13:27.29 | farri | parito: if I do with pptp it's perfect |
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| 13:27.33 | ge0rge007 | I have installed debian sueeze at my machine but i can not start the keyboard shortcuts.Is there a way to change shortcuts keyboards by command line? |
| 13:27.47 | canolucas | hoo-hah: ok. plz tell me when u r back |
| 13:27.51 | canolucas | :) |
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| 13:29.48 | farri | Titan8990_: thanks but less people than in debian :) that's why I ask here |
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| 13:30.14 | farri | parito: can you help? |
| 13:30.30 | Titan8990_ | farri, that doesn't make it on-topic but go ahead and ask |
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| 13:32.15 | farri | Titan8990_: I know but I ask here because I run a debian machine, in any case I am getting some errors when trying to connect to a server vpn |
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| 13:32.51 | ootput | hoo-hah: sorry, no. the sshfs# is needed too |
| 13:32.56 | Titan8990_ | farri, but that likely has little to do with debian, unless there is a bug in the debian package for openvpn |
| 13:33.12 | farri | Titan8990_: if I use pptp to connect it goes straightforaward |
| 13:33.17 | petemc | Titan8990_: if someone is using openvpn on debian, its on topic here |
| 13:33.38 | petemc | farri: what errors? do you have access to the remote end to see whats going on there? |
| 13:33.45 | farri | well, maybe there is some some problem with ports or something |
| 13:34.05 | petemc | easy to find out.. |
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| 13:34.10 | Titan8990_ | farri, i don't think you have told us the problem yet? |
| 13:34.25 | farri | petemc: the other end is softlayer provider, I have a cdn account that can only be accessed from a private network |
| 13:34.49 | d1b | Titan8990_: something about acronyms and big networks. |
| 13:35.05 | d1b | farri: can you be more clear ? |
| 13:35.09 | farri | I have read about pptp problems and want to try ssl with openvpn |
| 13:35.23 | d1b | farri: ok. so you want to setup openvpn ? |
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| 13:36.01 | farri | yes I want to set up openvpn, well its not that I want, I have been trying for long |
| 13:36.18 | Titan8990_ | <vpnHelper> Titan8990_: "logs" is (#1) is please pastebin your logfiles from both client and server with verb set to 6, or (#2) In Tunnelblick, right-click and select copy to copy log text to clipboard. |
| 13:36.36 | d1b | farri: it is fairly straight foward. |
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| 13:36.36 | d1b | !openvpn |
| 13:36.36 | dpkg | OpenVPN is a <VPN> daemon, which can securely tunnel IP networks over one UDP or TCP port. Packaged for Debian, provides "openvpn" ifupdown hooks to interfaces(5). As this uses OpenSSL, it is affected by <dsa1571>, see http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys (openvpn-blacklist package available in Lenny). As of openvpn 2.1~rc9, add "script-security 2" in config files for external command use. http://openvpn.net/ #openvpn on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:36.46 | d1b | erh let me find the link. |
| 13:37.17 | d1b | *fsck* their site crashed my firefox |
| 13:37.31 | farri | but I get strange errors: read UDPv4 [ECONNREFUSED]: Connection refused (code=111) |
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| 13:37.53 | d1b | farri: can clients connect? etc. |
| 13:37.54 | d1b | atm. |
| 13:38.09 | farri | well I can with pptp |
| 13:38.18 | petemc | farri: connection refused isnt strange |
| 13:38.21 | d1b | farri: wait... openvpn does pptp ? |
| 13:38.50 | farri | no no if I use pptp I can open a vpn I am not saying openvpn has pptp |
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| 13:38.54 | Titan8990_ | d1b, no, it doesn't |
| 13:38.59 | d1b | http://www.openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html |
| 13:39.16 | farri | I have read this howto thousand of times |
| 13:39.17 | d1b | farri: see that link. |
| 13:39.19 | Titan8990_ | farri, connection refused usually means that they do not have an openvpn daemon listening on the port you are trying to connect to |
| 13:39.28 | d1b | if you want i can pm you. |
| 13:39.40 | farri | pm? sorry? |
| 13:39.41 | d1b | but im not sure where you / what you have done. |
| 13:40.08 | farri | ok I can explain |
| 13:40.15 | farri | I can pastebin config and log |
| 13:40.41 | Titan8990_ | farri, does this place provide instructions on how to connect to their openvpn? |
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| 13:41.13 | d1b | oh he is only connecting to one ? |
| 13:41.20 | Titan8990_ | d1b, yes |
| 13:41.23 | d1b | AH |
| 13:41.31 | Titan8990_ | thats how i understood it |
| 13:41.34 | NoReflex | Hey guys! Can I connect with netcat through a HTTP _proxy? |
| 13:41.58 | d1b | rtfm. |
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| 13:42.10 | farri | I am copying into pastebin |
| 13:42.12 | farri | wait |
| 13:42.13 | d1b | NoReflex: -x |
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| 13:42.42 | Titan8990_ | farri, does this place provide instructions on how to connect to their openvpn? |
| 13:43.08 | farri | no they don't, if they did I wouldn't be here |
| 13:43.12 | canolucas | hoo-hah: are you back ? |
| 13:43.20 | Titan8990_ | farri, surely they provide some instructions... such as their port number, their shared key or how to submit/distribute the public key |
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| 13:43.38 | d1b | farri: they might not let you even connect.... |
| 13:43.39 | Titan8990_ | farri, things like that... how did you get the key? |
| 13:43.55 | farri | they don't offer any key |
| 13:44.05 | d1b | farri: you cannot connect without a key normally. |
| 13:44.08 | farri | I asked them for a public key |
| 13:44.09 | Titan8990_ | farri, then you can't connect to their openvpn server |
| 13:44.24 | d1b | farri: you need a client key that is signed by their ca :) |
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| 13:44.30 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.31 | Titan8990_ | d1b, I don't think there is a non-key way of authing to openvpn |
| 13:44.39 | d1b | Titan8990_: there is i believe. |
| 13:44.45 | farri | well, they only support user/pass authentication |
| 13:44.48 | Titan8990_ | d1b, like user authentication? |
| 13:44.53 | d1b | i think yeah. |
| 13:45.08 | farri | check my config: http://pastebin.com/m7ac77f62 |
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| 13:45.29 | d1b | Titan8990_: yep. |
| 13:45.33 | hoo-hah | canolucas: yes |
| 13:45.39 | hoo-hah | but i've got an issue of my own :/ |
| 13:45.42 | d1b | they have to have auth-user-pass on the client side. |
| 13:45.47 | d1b | and the server has to be enabled. |
| 13:46.05 | d1b | farri: can you pastebin the config ? |
| 13:46.13 | hoo-hah | occasionally firefox with display ⢠as a Y with an equals sign strewn across it. This is most visible in password query boxes |
| 13:46.28 | farri | and now my log: http://pastebin.com/m33127ec0 |
| 13:46.39 | farri | d1b: I pasted my config above |
| 13:46.40 | hoo-hah | sometimes (in the same session) it'd appear correctly, while other times it won't |
| 13:46.42 | d1b | ok |
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| 13:47.25 | d1b | farri: doesnt' look wrong to me. |
| 13:47.27 | hoo-hah | also, there is a consistent display problem with french right double quotes (small double arrows) appearing as cedilla |
| 13:47.32 | d1b | id check with them. |
| 13:47.38 | hoo-hah | this appears in buttons that use the quotes |
| 13:47.43 | hoo-hah | (eg mailboxes) |
| 13:48.01 | farri | d1b: can you check the log to see what can happen? http://pastebin.com/m33127ec0 |
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| 13:48.13 | d1b | farri: btw, it is looking in the file userpass |
| 13:48.19 | d1b | you store your password in that file yes? |
| 13:48.20 | hoo-hah | has anyone come across this bug(?) ? |
| 13:48.39 | farri | d1b: yes username and passwd |
| 13:48.43 | canolucas | hoo-hah: so you just change the dos charset in /etc/samba/smb.conf and do not specify any iocharset in the mount command? |
| 13:48.52 | hoo-hah | canolucas: yeah |
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| 13:49.00 | hoo-hah | and then restart the daemon |
| 13:49.06 | Titan8990_ | farri, are you use 1194 udp is the correct port? |
| 13:49.28 | farri | well 1194 is for ssl isn't it? |
| 13:49.40 | hippomikko | I'm having trouble with this .bash_aliases tutorial do I have to restart the PC after editing .bashrc? http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-create-your-own-aliases-in-debian.html |
| 13:49.45 | Titan8990_ | 1194 is the the default port for openvpn, but not many actually run it on the default port |
| 13:49.48 | hoo-hah | canolucas: you might need to use convmv to sort out which files are already affected |
| 13:50.00 | farri | what other ports? |
| 13:50.09 | Titan8990_ | farri, any you can choose at random |
| 13:50.15 | Dominique | I'm trying to connect to the internet from a fresh installation of debian on my laptop. I manually configured the network during setup and my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like http://pastebin.com/d3594a82e . The output of "ip addr ls" has the lines http://pastebin.com/d222c9651 . I can connect to the internet by plugging the same cable into my windows and Ubuntu PC, but not frm the debian laptop. Please help! |
| 13:50.34 | farri | well, they are serving, it's they who establish ports, I can try asking them the port |
| 13:50.56 | farri | appart from this do you find any other problem in my logs? |
| 13:51.06 | farri | they are only client logs of course |
| 13:51.36 | Titan8990_ | farri, you will also need their shared key or certificate |
| 13:51.38 | d1b | farri: ask them for support. |
| 13:51.40 | MJD | Dominique: How are you testing your connectivity? |
| 13:51.44 | d1b | Titan8990_: i think he has that. |
| 13:52.01 | d1b | not sure tho. yes farri you normally have a copy of the ca cert / server... |
| 13:52.08 | Dominique | MJDi tried pinging my gateway, but it does nothing.. not even "Host unreachable" |
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| 13:52.14 | Titan8990_ | d1b, i don't thinks so... WARNING: No server certificate verification method has been enabled. |
| 13:52.28 | d1b | Titan8990_: that's another config line. |
| 13:52.30 | d1b | :) |
| 13:52.38 | d1b | farri: can you install ntp |
| 13:52.42 | d1b | apt-get install ntp ? |
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| 13:52.49 | d1b | just check the time is correct. |
| 13:52.57 | farri | d1b: do you thing isp companies are that open to help? you always end up with a phrase like "we don't offfer support for that" |
| 13:53.07 | penta | hi there, why this can happening "no private ioctls" if I did iwpriv wlan0 set AuthMode=WPAPSK? |
| 13:53.09 | farri | I will install ntp right now |
| 13:53.17 | Titan8990_ | d1b, i see it now |
| 13:53.27 | d1b | Titan8990_: doesn't mean he has it tho. :) |
| 13:53.39 | d1b | just he isn't checking if it is valid --> why would you do that :P |
| 13:53.40 | farri | ntp installled, now what? |
| 13:53.55 | d1b | farri: try reconnecting in a few mins. |
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| 13:54.03 | farri | ah ok |
| 13:54.22 | MJD | Dominique: How is the ubuntu pc configured? Does it use the same settings? |
| 13:54.31 | farri | why in a few mins? what's the magic? |
| 13:54.51 | d1b | if we are in luck time ;P |
| 13:55.05 | Dominique | well, I also specified the cofiguration manually during the install in Ubuntu... |
| 13:55.06 | farri | ha ha |
| 13:55.56 | MJD | Dominique: And you are pinging the gateway's ip address? Or are you pinging a dns name? |
| 13:56.09 | Dominique | the gateway's IP address. |
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| 13:56.50 | Justin_ | Dominique: what the fuck? |
| 13:57.20 | Justin_ | Dominique: you can't randomly assign yourself ip addresses and expect things to work right |
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| 13:57.49 | d1b | Justin_: yes you can, i do it all the time! |
| 13:57.52 | Dominique | hey... the configuration is provided by the ISP... I don't randomly assign ip addresses... @ Justin_ |
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| 13:58.28 | Justin_ | Dominique: are you part of 'Computer Sciences Corporation' in Falls Church VA? |
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| 13:58.40 | Dominique | no! |
| 13:58.40 | MJD | Dominique: Can you post the output of dmesg to pastebin after you try to ping the gateway? |
| 13:58.51 | Justin_ | Dominique: then you need to get an ISP that knows wtf they are doing as soon as possible |
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| 13:59.28 | Dominique | MJD: sure... it'll take sm time as i've to disconnect frm internet.. brb |
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| 14:01.00 | farri | d1b: no way I will try pptp instead |
| 14:01.00 | codingrobot | is there any solution similar to raid5 for linux where the disks can be with different size. i'd like to have some level of security but i want to be futureproof and able to add larger HDDs |
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| 14:01.08 | d1b | farri: ok. |
| 14:01.10 | farri | thx for your efforts |
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| 14:01.41 | d1b | at least he has a reliable clock now :) |
| 14:01.43 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 14:02.19 | superlinux | can some help me understand this so I can be able to translate it to arabic: Evangelist Eric Raymond once growled to a Microsoft VIP |
| 14:02.19 | superlinux | that he was their worst nightmare. ? |
| 14:02.36 | superlinux | i am translating a book. |
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| 14:03.48 | arvind_khadri | hi, i have a intel 5100 wireless in built card, http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn , this page asks me to install 2.6.30 , can i have a pre built .deb of it from somewhere? |
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| 14:04.31 | petemc | superlinux: "esr has an ego the size of a house" |
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| 14:06.08 | arvind_khadri | hi, i have a intel 5100 wireless in built card, http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn , this page asks me to install 2.6.30 , can i have a pre built .deb of it from somewhere? |
| 14:06.29 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: backports.org |
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| 14:06.37 | d1b | petemc: what...? rofl. |
| 14:06.45 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, of lenny? |
| 14:06.48 | d1b | !backports |
| 14:06.49 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 14:07.23 | arvind_khadri | d1b, i know what a backport is :) thanks |
| 14:07.46 | d1b | arvind_khadri: backports for lenny. |
| 14:07.52 | d1b | if you are running lenny. |
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| 14:08.55 | Dominique_ | MJD: Here's how the dmesg looks like after trying to ping the gateway IP: http://pastebin.com/d6283b4a6 !! I typed it in as the laptop has no internet connection!! :( |
| 14:09.30 | arvind_khadri | d1b, ya got it, but i cant find the image package in backports, could you help me...please :S |
| 14:09.52 | Dominique_ | !hi |
| 14:09.52 | dpkg | hello, dominique_ |
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| 14:10.35 | arvind_khadri | d1b, i think i got it... |
| 14:11.30 | arvind_khadri | d1b, btw, how do i disable touchpad ?? |
| 14:11.43 | MJD | Dominique: what kernel are using? Are you just using the default with lenny. |
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| 14:12.36 | Dominique_ | MJD: it's the default kernel. "uname -r" returns 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 14:13.18 | MJD | Dominique: I'm not sure if this relates to you, but you may an issue similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/279102 |
| 14:14.31 | Dominique_ | well, that's my ethernet adapter there... Broadcom 4401!! |
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| 14:15.58 | MJD | Dominique: I'm afraid I have to go now. Good luck though? |
| 14:16.06 | MJD | s/?/!/ |
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| 14:17.14 | Dominique_ | ty MJD |
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| 14:18.01 | Bombo | hi, how do i disable the second ide port in linux? i disabled it in the bios, but its still there (/proc/interrupts) "15: 1 XT-PIC-XT ide1" |
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| 14:18.34 | Dominique_ | What are the packages I have to install in order to be able to compile from source (.tar.gz)?? |
| 14:18.44 | valdyn | !b-e Dominique_ |
| 14:18.45 | dpkg | Dominique_: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 14:18.58 | Dominique_ | ty valdyn |
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| 14:20.54 | abrotman | arvind_khadri: look at bckports.org .. there is a 2.6.30 |
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| 14:22.03 | arvind_khadri | abrotman, i got it thanks, how do i disable touchpad, i downloaded gsynaptics, but it spits error...asks me to set SHMConfig to true in xorg.conf |
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| 14:23.12 | jelly | Bombo: Documentation/ide.txt suggests something like hdc=none hdd=none ... I have no idea whether ide1=none works |
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| 14:32.54 | limpio | hi, i install Lenny, installed 'locate' but it's not working, should i install something in addition to that? |
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| 14:33.59 | traav | limpio, run updatedb first? |
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| 14:34.53 | limpio | ok |
| 14:35.19 | pizza_biz | also even after you run updatedb, it's not necessarily going to report the path of what you're looking for if it's not in an indexed location. |
| 14:35.57 | limpio | traav, yeah, you're the man! thanks a lot pal! |
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| 14:41.35 | valdyn | majeru: why would that fix permissions? |
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| 14:45.46 | WormFood | is there a tool to allow me to insert files into an iso image, without having to remaster the whole thing? |
| 14:45.55 | petemc | no, iso is read only |
| 14:46.00 | WormFood | I know there are tools for winblows that can do that |
| 14:46.04 | petemc | no there isnt |
| 14:46.19 | petemc | it would have to be remastered in some way |
| 14:46.30 | WormFood | no petemc, I'm not talking about read/writing the iso...I'm talking about the availability of a tool to insert files into the iso structure without remastering it |
| 14:46.44 | valdyn | WormFood: thats not possible. |
| 14:46.53 | KiloBravoEight | isomaster |
| 14:46.56 | petemc | how do you "insert files" without writing |
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| 14:47.37 | WormFood | thanks KiloBravoEight |
| 14:47.43 | KiloBravoEight | np |
| 14:48.16 | petemc | you might find isomaster does some sort of remastering too |
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| 14:54.10 | WormFood | I'm not looking to remaster it, just modify it...I know that involves some level of mastering, but not like making an iso from scratch. |
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| 15:03.15 | arvind_khadri | how the heck do i disable touchpad |
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| 15:04.12 | traav | arvind_khadri, modprobe -r psmouse |
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| 15:05.18 | Selveste1 | Dos debian suppert CLVM (Cluster Logical Volume Management) ? |
| 15:05.30 | arvind_khadri | traav, but that completely disables it, what i want is to disable clicks from the touchpad, sorry i should have been more specific |
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| 15:06.47 | arvind_khadri | traav, i tried gysnaptics, it gives SHMConfig not set to true |
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| 15:07.04 | traav | arvind_khadri, IIRC that involves some manipulation of an .fdi file (hal related) |
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| 15:07.39 | taxman | Hi all, I'm trying to find a tool that can create multi page tiff files. Does anyone know of one? |
| 15:07.50 | arvind_khadri | traav, thats really complicated.... :S i tried editing xorg.conf, but all in vain |
| 15:08.13 | _talon | i am trying to install debian on a lenovo d20 thinkstation with marvel mv6440 hardware RAID |
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| 15:08.24 | _talon | it doesn't work, the array is not detected |
| 15:08.30 | traav | taxman, look at imagemagick |
| 15:08.59 | _talon | and selecting mvsas driver in the list doesn't work, also i tried switching to vt2 and loading mvsas with modprobe |
| 15:09.12 | taxman | traav: any idea where to look in the docs to see how to get it to do that. Imagemagick is pretty big and I've come up empty there so far |
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| 15:14.23 | mercutio22 | I need to find a file I just edited and the locate command is not finding it. Any clues? |
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| 15:14.56 | traav | mercutio22, , run updatedb first? |
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| 15:15.22 | pom5 | find / -name |
| 15:15.56 | mercutio22 | traav: I just did it. Nothing happens after updatedb |
| 15:16.11 | mercutio22 | traav: how should I run updatedb |
| 15:16.12 | Justin_ | mercutio22: why do you need to find it? if you just edited it don't you know where it is? |
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| 15:17.08 | mercutio22 | Justin_: actually its not me. Its my gf. She openend a spreadsheat reveided as email in evolution. It probably opens inside /tmp |
| 15:17.17 | mercutio22 | Justin_: now she can't find it |
| 15:17.32 | chellomere | if it's in /tmp, the file name may be random. |
| 15:17.36 | Justin_ | mercutio22: yes, it is probably in /tmp, and updatedb most likely ignores /tmp |
| 15:17.43 | Justin_ | it wouldn't be random, the extension would be right |
| 15:17.47 | xreal | Is there a nice tutorial for (real) software RAID-0 in Debian Lenny? |
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| 15:18.04 | bzed | xreal: apt-get install mdadm; man mdadm |
| 15:18.08 | mercutio22 | I tried finding a file listed inside my own /tmp and can't find |
| 15:18.16 | bzed | xreal: thats probably enough already |
| 15:18.27 | xreal | ah, thanks! |
| 15:18.52 | taxman | it's -adjoin apparently that merges them into one file |
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| 15:19.51 | f00bar80 | i'm asking how to switch between different languages keyboard in debian lenny |
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| 15:20.24 | mercutio22 | Justin_: is there a way to get updatedb not to ignore /tmp? |
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| 15:21.37 | chellomere | mercutio22, did you test using find in /tmp? |
| 15:22.18 | chellomere | /tmp shouldn't be very big so should not take very long |
| 15:22.43 | \amethyst | if it was a temporary file, evolution probably deleted it when OO exited |
| 15:22.49 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ?? |
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| 15:25.36 | f00bar80 | Also i'm asking RTL8187SE chipset is supported or not in debian lenny at this time ??????? |
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| 15:27.04 | themill | !RTL8187SE |
| 15:27.04 | dpkg | The RTL8187SE is an IEEE 802.11b/g single-chip WLAN IC (with PCI Express interface) manufactured by Realtek. Not supported by the <rtl-wifi> rtl8187 driver at this time. Vendor driver (rtl8187se) available in mainline kernels from 2.6.29-rc1, installation procedure at http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#rtl8187se . Driver is experimental: expect latency, performance and stability issues. |
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| 15:27.13 | jelly | !keymap |
| 15:27.13 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 15:27.40 | jelly | hm, that one should probably mention setxkbmap before xmodmap |
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| 15:29.15 | Leftblank | I'm writing a kernel module and am thus using console_print, sadly it's only showing up in my TTY console and not my good old Gnome Terminal; is there a way to bypass this? |
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| 15:30.11 | f00bar80 | jelly, i'm just want to be able to switch between english/arabic while in text editor website as i already have them both keyboard layouts , so which form the mentioned above i have to use ?? |
| 15:30.36 | \amethyst | Leftblank: run xconsole inside X and the message will go there, too |
| 15:30.49 | Leftblank | \amethyst: mk, thanks |
| 15:31.33 | \amethyst | Leftblank: (there = xconsole, not the gnome-terminal) |
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| 15:33.31 | majeru | valdyn: they usually make sure some files have the right permissions |
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| 15:33.54 | themill | f00bar80: most desktop environments offer some sort of kb layout switching applet that you can use or allow you to assign a keyboard shortcut to toggle the layout. |
| 15:34.03 | jelly | f00bar80: if you have gnome, best to use its own settings tool. |
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| 15:34.33 | f00bar80 | jelly, which is ??? |
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| 15:35.20 | jelly | f00bar80: I have no idea, not being a Gnome user. I assume it's fairly easy to find in the menu. |
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| 15:36.30 | oxi | hi |
| 15:36.42 | f00bar80 | keyboard shortcuts has nothing regarding languages toggle or switch |
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| 15:37.08 | themill | *shrug* does in KDE. |
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| 15:38.23 | Leftblank | \amethyst: I suppose by 'running in X' it's insufficient to execute xconsole as root under gnome? I'm not receiving any messages sadly |
| 15:38.58 | \amethyst | Leftblank: anything that's getting printed to /dev/console should be caught by xconsole... hm |
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| 15:39.34 | \amethyst | Leftblank: perhaps you'd be better off having those messages logged, and using tail -f on the log file? |
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| 15:40.01 | Leftblank | \amethyst: perhaps, though that's rather slow compared to direct feedback |
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| 15:40.48 | Leftblank | manually echo'ing to /dev/console works fine and is being displayed, none of the messages though sadly |
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| 15:41.50 | mercutio22 | exit |
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| 15:43.48 | hoo-hah | is there a way to get mount -o rw,remount or ro,remount usable as non-root user? |
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| 15:45.41 | f00bar80 | One question about date and time in debian lenny, whenever i change the time it returns as it has not been changed , any comment ???? |
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| 15:50.43 | Stereo | f00bar80: running ntp perhaps |
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| 15:51.05 | jelly | f00bar80: how do you change it? |
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| 15:51.45 | jelly | f00bar80: Re: keymap, I'd look for localziation settings |
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| 15:53.15 | subopt | What does Ctl-x map to in standard xterms? --OR, how do i find out for myself? |
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| 15:54.34 | chellomere | c-x twice appears to toggle the cursor position between the current position and the start of the line |
| 15:55.07 | chellomere | c-x c-v shows bash version info |
| 15:55.20 | f00bar80 | jelly, right click the date and time in taskbar and Adjust Date & Time |
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| 15:55.40 | subopt | chellomere : Where is this stuff described or defined? |
| 15:55.54 | chellomere | prolly in the bash manual, which this is specific too |
| 15:55.56 | jelly | f00bar80: does Gnome ask you for admin/root privileges at that point? |
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| 15:56.05 | jelly | f00bar80: only root can change time. |
| 15:56.10 | chellomere | also found c-x c-e, which opens up the current command in $EDITOR |
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| 15:56.16 | f00bar80 | jelly, yes and i entered the root's password |
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| 15:57.00 | jelly | f00bar80: I have no idea then. Use "date -s" or "ntpdate-debian" or "ntpdate pool.ntp.org" in an interactive root shell. |
| 15:57.02 | subopt | chellomere : c-x c-x works in tcsh too. Could this stuff be in termcap? |
| 15:57.15 | themill | chellomere, subopt: "man 3 readline" will be of interest too |
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| 15:57.32 | jelly | f00bar80: also, use "date" in a shell to check the time properly. |
| 15:57.41 | subopt | themill : thx. |
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| 15:58.21 | acu | is X working in a new daily install from squeeze ? |
| 15:59.12 | chellomere | themill, oh. that's where C-x C-x comes from, right? but not the rest of them? |
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| 15:59.54 | \amethyst | chellomere: readline defines c-x c-x, c-x c-u, and c-x c-r |
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| 16:00.01 | bor | when I installed a package it asked for some config values |
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| 16:00.02 | \amethyst | chellomere: the others are specific to bash |
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| 16:00.05 | bor | I got one wrong |
| 16:00.07 | bor | tried reinstalling |
| 16:00.11 | bor | it keeps using the old value |
| 16:00.15 | chellomere | \amethyst, ok |
| 16:00.19 | bor | how can I get it to forget all those values? |
| 16:00.22 | themill | chellomere: there are a lot of things that bash can do based on readline, man bash also has a section on readline where it will give more details about specific stuff it offers |
| 16:00.33 | f00bar80 | jelly, i see it even wrong using date in a shell |
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| 16:01.14 | \amethyst | chellomere: bind -p | grep -v -e 'not bound' -e 'self-insert' |
| 16:01.17 | ethanol | is there an option or switch to force a package install to re-create any config values and such |
| 16:01.23 | themill | ethanol: "dpkg-reconfigure packagename" should offer you the questions again. |
| 16:01.36 | f00bar80 | jelly, a sample on how to date -s ?? |
| 16:01.53 | chellomere | \amethyst, cool! :) |
| 16:02.00 | jelly | f00bar80: nah, you can read the manual by yourself |
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| 16:02.39 | \amethyst | chellomere: or bind -P for a different arrangement |
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| 16:02.51 | \amethyst | chellomere: -p lists by key, -P by function |
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| 16:03.04 | dtcrshr | hi everyone! is it possible to install php4 on lenny? |
| 16:03.49 | chellomere | \amethyst, thanks for the knowledge sharing :) |
| 16:04.25 | babilen | hi all! I am running into "#554506 - cryptsetup: unable to find root volume" but only when i have my controller in AHCI mode. It does not occur when set the controller to "Compatibility" mode ... |
| 16:04.25 | jorik | dtcrshr: yes, but not from the default repo's |
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| 16:04.45 | jelly | dtcrshr: Debian itself doesn't have php4 any more. |
| 16:05.25 | babilen | I verified that I can mount the partitions/volume groups fine with AHCI setting in a Live CD ... |
| 16:05.25 | babilen | any ideas? |
| 16:05.25 | themill | dpkg: tell dtcrshr about php4 |
| 16:06.05 | jpinx-eeepc | Is doing a etch->lenny ok in a chroot? |
| 16:06.06 | jelly | f00bar80: it accepts reasonable formats for -s. date -s "2009-12-31 23:59:59" would probably work. |
| 16:06.12 | TheJoe | libasound2-plugins is apparently broken in Lenny |
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| 16:06.19 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: "ok"? |
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| 16:06.29 | babilen | f00bar80: how is it going? |
| 16:06.33 | themill | jpinx-eeepc: it should work fine -- wayttd though.... |
| 16:06.35 | TheJoe | Out of all the things I presumably need for PulseAudio, it's the only one missing and I'm assuming the root of my soundlessness |
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| 16:07.06 | plaugher1 | hello, I've messed up my only initrd file on /boot is there any way of salvaging my system ? |
| 16:07.10 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: it's running - I'll come back if it falls over ;) |
| 16:07.15 | papul | guys my x keeps crashing |
| 16:07.30 | jelly | plaugher1: which debian release? You can rebuild it using update-initramfs. |
| 16:07.46 | papul | guys my x keeps crashing |
| 16:07.47 | plaugher1 | I only realised that it was corrupted on restart |
| 16:07.55 | plaugher1 | I'm on a live cd right now |
| 16:08.02 | plaugher1 | I was using debian sid |
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| 16:08.14 | cmatei | is there some way to install stuff from postgresql-contrib, without me having to know the path to the actual file ? |
| 16:08.21 | jelly | plaugher1: boot a livecd, mount and chroot to the debian installation, and thus reduce the problem to the previous one |
| 16:08.32 | papul | guys my x keeps crashing |
| 16:08.42 | jelly | !tell papul -about repeat |
| 16:08.42 | TheJoe | Is there a way to remove a package and keep all it's dependencies? |
| 16:08.49 | amphi | !comfort papul |
| 16:08.50 | dpkg | There, there, papul. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:09.02 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: it's a 2nd hdd in the laptop which I found an old etch install on, which appears to be intact, so I'm running the upgrade process to lenny, and so far so good |
| 16:09.05 | dtcrshr | i see. the application is local, and didnt worked on php5 |
| 16:09.07 | TheJoe | Removing libasound2 which is apparently conflicting with -plugins will remove over 200MB of packages |
| 16:09.07 | plaugher1 | I didn't have backups |
| 16:09.14 | plaugher1 | on that file |
| 16:09.15 | jelly | TheJoe: aptitude unmarkauto all the dependencies? |
| 16:09.18 | papul | i installed debian but it keeps crashing |
| 16:09.22 | babilen | what could cause #554506 is the SATA controller is set to AHCI mode and why does it work if in "Compatibility" mode? |
| 16:09.25 | dtcrshr | should i install etch, or is there a way to install php4 from the backports? |
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| 16:09.29 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: I am following dpkg's advice closely ;) |
| 16:09.43 | jelly | dtcrshr: that would be "forwardports", not "backports" |
| 16:09.52 | jelly | dtcrshr: why do you need php4? |
| 16:09.53 | themill | dtcrshr: you'll have to fix it to run with php5 then... |
| 16:10.04 | amphi | papul: is it your window manager crashing? |
| 16:10.16 | TheJoe | jelly: Actually just removing it with aptitude did the job fine |
| 16:10.18 | dtcrshr | its a local system from the intranet, dont know how to update it for php 5 |
| 16:10.28 | amphi | papul: you could test with another wm, or not have you X session depend on the wm |
| 16:10.30 | papul | yeah xfce4 crashes fluxbox crashes everything crashes |
| 16:10.34 | f00bar80 | jelly, using this version of backports kernel 2.6.30 , can harm or by any mean unsecure my system ? |
| 16:10.46 | papul | i tried xterm |
| 16:10.50 | papul | it doesnt crash |
| 16:11.04 | babilen | f00bar80: no. you finished the install? |
| 16:11.28 | amphi | papul: what video card is it? |
| 16:11.39 | papul | amphi, intel integrated |
| 16:11.44 | papul | dunno exact model |
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| 16:11.55 | amphi | papul: lspci would tell you |
| 16:12.10 | arvind_khadri | how do i set my screen resolution, i have an intel in built card... |
| 16:12.12 | papul | amphi, whats the exact command? |
| 16:12.20 | amphi | papul: I have an intel card, and not had any such problems |
| 16:12.23 | amphi | papul: lspci |
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| 16:12.32 | papul | amphi, i am planning to erase debian |
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| 16:12.51 | amphi | papul: then why are you in here? ;) |
| 16:12.54 | TheJoe | Didn't seem to fix PulseAudio though :\ |
| 16:13.00 | papul | ok bye |
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| 16:13.08 | f00bar80 | babilen, yes |
| 16:13.17 | amphi | !customer |
| 16:13.18 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 16:13.22 | jorik | hehe |
| 16:13.24 | babilen | f00bar80: yeah ... what did you have to do? |
| 16:13.51 | amphi | arvind_khadri: you can use xrandr |
| 16:14.18 | arvind_khadri | amphi, xrandr returns me 3 values, |
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| 16:15.36 | f00bar80 | babilen, Ubuntu Live CD and Grub2, i'm stuck now with my wireless chipset, after installing the kernel 2.6.30 and booting debian using it, then modprobe the module rtl8187se which was successful, i tried iwconfig and got ra0 RT2860 and as root ifconfig ra0 up got SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation no permitted |
| 16:16.07 | arvind_khadri | amphi, the max being 1024x768 but it can go higher |
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| 16:16.33 | f00bar80 | babilen, what does that mean ? |
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| 16:17.11 | amphi | arvind_khadri: maybe you should look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for info as to why your desired resolution is not available |
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| 16:18.15 | babilen | f00bar80: can you paste "dmesg | tail -n 20" ? |
| 16:19.21 | arvind_khadri | amphi, there is so much in it, what do i look for? |
| 16:19.52 | amphi | arvind_khadri: dunno exactly |
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| 16:21.13 | TheJoe | Wooohooo PulseAudio is fixed |
| 16:21.23 | TheJoe | The moral of the story: Don't backport *everything* |
| 16:21.44 | themill | who'd've thought... |
| 16:22.11 | babilen | f00bar80: and the output of iwconfig |
| 16:22.18 | babilen | !tell f00bar80 -about pastebinit |
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| 16:22.48 | f00bar80 | babilen, rt2860 0000:02:00.0: firmware: requesting rt2860.bin rt2860sta: firmware file rt2860.bin request failed (-2) ERROR!!! NICLoadFirmware failed, Status[=0x00000001] !!! RT2860 Initialized fail !!! , i used this doc http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#rtl8187se to install the module, which was after what has been suggested here from a while |
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| 16:23.02 | bluethundr_ | I am trying to write a fun little bash script that tells you who your facebook friends are so you can diff it with another file to see if you've been friended or unfriended |
| 16:23.13 | babilen | f00bar80: yeah, you need to install the firmware for that card. give me a second ... |
| 16:23.19 | bluethundr_ | http://pastebin.com/m6e806bf2 |
| 16:23.29 | amphi | dear ghod |
| 16:23.36 | bluethundr_ | but for some reason i can't even get the date to appear in the file.. this really seemed to be working just a little while ago |
| 16:23.47 | babilen | !tell f00bar80 about rt2860 |
| 16:24.00 | babilen | !tell f00bar80 about ralink firmware |
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| 16:24.25 | bluethundr_ | this is the result |
| 16:24.26 | bluethundr_ | http://pastebin.com/m455c09cf |
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| 16:24.44 | themill | bluethundr_: "date +%m-%e-%y" doesn't put zeros in the date string |
| 16:24.54 | themill | (run just that command to see the output) |
| 16:25.29 | f00bar80 | babilen, how to install firmware-ralink 0.17 or later (lenny-backports, squeeze) to provide. ?? |
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| 16:25.34 | TheJoe | Now that's just anal retentive social networking right there |
| 16:25.40 | bluethundr_ | ah.... how to put zeroes and will that solve that problem? |
| 16:25.58 | bluethundr_ | heh.. |
| 16:26.00 | themill | bluethundr_: man date.... |
| 16:26.10 | babilen | what could cause #554506 if the SATA controller is set to AHCI mode and why does it work if in "Compatibility" mode? |
| 16:26.12 | ethanol | themill, dpk-reconfigure didn't help because install failed cause the mysql password I provided had a typo. however uninstall and reinstall keeps resulting in the config now trying to use the faulty password, rather than asking for a new one |
| 16:26.17 | bluethundr_ | doesn't date men |
| 16:26.35 | TheJoe | hah! |
| 16:26.45 | babilen | !tell f00bar80 -about non-free sources |
| 16:27.15 | babilen | f00bar80: enable non-free and 'aptitude install firmware-ralink' |
| 16:27.15 | themill | ethanol: ahh... the password is in the mysql databases so you'd have to delete them too to solve that (but you probably don't really want to do that). /msg dpkg forgot mysql root password |
| 16:27.34 | TheJoe | f00bar80: network-manager is also pretty helpful |
| 16:27.40 | ethanol | themill, uh no? |
| 16:28.04 | babilen | TheJoe: won't help much if the hardware does not work. and wicd is usually preferred ;-) |
| 16:28.24 | ethanol | themill, I tried to install mydns-mysql, which asks for a username and password. but the password I provided had a typo. so install failed cause it could not create any tables and such. however, reinstalling the package keeps failing cause it never asks me for the password again. |
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| 16:29.05 | themill | ethanol: gah... it's like drawing teeth, getting the relevant information out of you today! |
| 16:29.11 | TheJoe | babilen: Well I've no problems on this end at all, I felt it was right to recommend it |
| 16:29.13 | Titan8990_ | babilen, wicd has to be backported |
| 16:29.31 | themill | judd versions wicd --release lenny-backports |
| 16:29.31 | ethanol | I tried aptitude purge, but it keeps using the values I provided during the first install process. and I have no idea where it has stored those. |
| 16:29.31 | judd | themill: wicd -- lenny-backports: 1.6.2.2-1~bpo50+1 |
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| 16:29.44 | bluethundr_ | ok, seems I won't have to worry about zeroes if I say this `date +%e-%m-%y` |
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| 16:30.13 | themill | bluethundr_: or use %d instead of %e... |
| 16:30.32 | bluethundr_ | themill: good tip |
| 16:30.44 | ethanol | this is frustrating. how can I I get apt-get install or aptidude install to forget any previous attempts and just completely start from scratch? |
| 16:30.52 | ethanol | aptitude* |
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| 16:32.25 | themill | ethanol: the result will be stored by debconf -- you can use debconf-get-selections and debconf-set-selections to change the setting |
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| 16:34.17 | ethanol | dev:~# debconf-get-selections |
| 16:34.17 | ethanol | -bash: debconf-get-selections: command not found |
| 16:34.23 | themill | !installit |
| 16:34.24 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 16:34.29 | ethanol | pfff |
| 16:34.30 | ethanol | :< |
| 16:34.42 | ethanol | this doesn't make sense |
| 16:34.54 | ethanol | why is it so complicated to just properly reinstall a package? |
| 16:35.02 | ethanol | I never asked for it to store any install config values |
| 16:35.18 | ethanol | and I certainly didn't ask it to re-use those old values |
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| 16:36.17 | beardy | !purge |
| 16:36.18 | dpkg | In Debian package management, "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use 'aptitude purge [package]' or 'dpkg -P <package>' (note: you can't apt-get purge a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: aptitude purge '~c'. To restore config files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>." |
| 16:36.20 | beardy | It isn't. |
| 16:36.31 | ethanol | purge hangs on Purging configuration files for mydns-mysql ... |
| 16:36.36 | ethanol | it doesn't get beyond that |
| 16:36.57 | ethanol | and I can't see why |
| 16:37.02 | ethanol | which is equally annoying :< |
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| 16:37.30 | themill | ethanol: gah... it's like drawing teeth, getting the relevant information out of you today! |
| 16:37.37 | ethanol | what?! |
| 16:37.38 | ethanol | :< |
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| 16:37.57 | beardy | lights a match |
| 16:38.15 | jaggz- | fast image viewer which allows some color adjustments, like inverse? |
| 16:38.16 | ethanol | I love lenny |
| 16:38.21 | themill | ethanol: are you running etch on that box btw? |
| 16:38.26 | ethanol | but this is an etch machine yeah |
| 16:38.31 | jaggz- | kview and gqview don't allow such adjustments... (no need to save it out, by the way) |
| 16:38.45 | ethanol | and it's old |
| 16:38.48 | ethanol | and it's a dev server |
| 16:38.50 | jaggz- | anyone know of? |
| 16:38.51 | ethanol | so lots of junk and crap |
| 16:38.51 | ethanol | :< |
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| 16:39.55 | ethanol | themill, is the command different on etch? |
| 16:40.08 | themill | no, the package just doesn't exist except in etch |
| 16:40.36 | ethanol | oh |
| 16:41.18 | TheJoe | So what would be the proper way to get unicode working? Special characters are all being replaced on this end |
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| 16:43.23 | ethanol | so it's now impossible to install this package? |
| 16:43.42 | ethanol | cause I can't get past the install |
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| 16:44.12 | ethanol | and purge fails, epic |
| 16:44.14 | themill | ethanol: you need to start at the beginning and tell us what you've tried to do and show us some real output. "it gets stuck on purge" etc is quite useless. |
| 16:44.15 | ethanol | so I can't get rid of it either |
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| 16:44.23 | ethanol | I tried apt-get install mydns-mysql |
| 16:44.32 | ethanol | it asked for a mysql user and password so it could create some tables |
| 16:44.37 | ethanol | I typod the password |
| 16:44.38 | ethanol | so it failed |
| 16:44.41 | ethanol | install aborted |
| 16:44.49 | ethanol | reinstall resulted in using the same old password |
| 16:44.55 | ethanol | aptitude purge hangs on removing config files |
| 16:45.08 | ethanol | so there is no way for me now to re-specify the mysql user and password |
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| 16:45.57 | ethanol | every time I try apt-get install or reinstall, it keeps failing on the password I typod during the first attemtp |
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| 16:47.03 | ethanol | dpkg: error processing mydns-mysql (--configure): |
| 16:47.04 | dpkg | ethanol: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 16:47.11 | ethanol | :< |
| 16:47.29 | ethanol | can I --reconfigure somehow? |
| 16:47.33 | ethanol | during install attempt? |
| 16:48.19 | ethanol | themill, details enough or? |
| 16:48.38 | themill | ethanol: what details? even dpkg told you that you didn't give us enough... |
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| 16:48.46 | ethanol | dpkg: error processing mydns-mysql (--configure): |
| 16:48.46 | ethanol | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.46 | ethanol | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:48.46 | ethanol | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.47 | ethanol | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 16:48.47 | dpkg | ethanol: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 16:48.58 | themill | dpkg: tell ethanol about paste |
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| 16:49.26 | ethanol | Removing mydns-mysql ... |
| 16:49.26 | ethanol | Stopping DNS server: mydns. |
| 16:49.26 | ethanol | Purging configuration files for mydns-mysql ... |
| 16:49.26 | Rprp` | Hi, i just got a new server with exact the same hardware, but, the new server can only see 3G ram for some reason.. http://pastebin.org/59720 can someone help me please? I dont want to install a bigmem kernel becasue i am losing some performance with it |
| 16:49.28 | ethanol | and then nothing, it just halts there |
| 16:49.38 | themill | ethanol: stop pasting into the channel ffs |
| 16:49.39 | ethanol | purging literally hangs |
| 16:49.46 | ethanol | themill, then give me frickin answer, ffs |
| 16:50.05 | themill | ethanol: and what was the output of dpkg-reconfigure on this package? did that work? |
| 16:50.09 | ethanol | I thought apt was there to simplify package management |
| 16:50.18 | ethanol | it couldn't cause the package never succeeded with the install |
| 16:50.37 | ethanol | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mydns-mysql is broken or not fully installed |
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| 16:51.17 | ethanol | it's like a never ending cycle of fail now :< |
| 16:51.26 | ethanol | can't install, can't reinstall, can't purge, can't reconfigure |
| 16:51.29 | themill | ethanol: try running the postrm script manually |
| 16:51.39 | ethanol | where would that be located? |
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| 16:51.59 | blackhold | hi |
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| 16:52.11 | themill | ethanol: "/var/lib/dpkg/info/mydns-mysql.postrm purge" |
| 16:52.25 | Kevin` | i'm trying to switch my system from 32bit to 64bit. it has no cd drive, and it won't boot from usb (bios is broken somehow). this is the best method i've come up with, any other ideas?: ned:~/dl# qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -hda /dev/ned/newroot -kernel linux -initrd initrd.gz |
| 16:52.45 | ethanol | themill, it hangs :< |
| 16:52.50 | Kevin` | storage is lvm on md-raid1 |
| 16:52.53 | blackhold | does it possible to apply mask to files to strict save files as an specific group inside a directory? |
| 16:53.01 | asaleem | I am receiving this error when I run apt-get or aptitude "error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 16:53.11 | ethanol | themill, is there a verbose mode or anything? something that will show me what it is doing and why it fails? |
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| 16:53.47 | asaleem | It is not there at /lib/libpthread.so.0 |
| 16:53.54 | asaleem | How do I resolve it |
| 16:53.59 | themill | ethanol: you could put "set -x" as the second line of that script |
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| 16:54.36 | Rprp` | Hi, i just got a new server with exact the same hardware, but, the new server can only see 3G ram for some reason.. http://pastebin.org/59720 can someone help me please? I dont want to install a bigmem kernel becasue i am losing some performance with it |
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| 16:54.57 | themill | ethanol: I take it that when you put a typo in the password, you managed to do so twice |
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| 16:55.12 | ethanol | no |
| 16:55.15 | ethanol | it only asks for it once |
| 16:55.33 | ethanol | or so my coworker told me |
| 16:55.38 | ethanol | but I believe him |
| 16:56.09 | ethanol | pfff |
| 16:56.09 | ethanol | +x gave me a bunch of stuff |
| 16:56.14 | ethanol | but I get none the wiser from the 'stalling' point |
| 16:56.28 | themill | stick it in a pastebin. My ESP powers are weak today |
| 16:56.33 | Kevin` | nobody? :( |
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| 16:57.20 | themill | ethanol: and yes, the configuration script does ask for the password twice... |
| 16:57.20 | Kevin` | oh, also, it's my dhcp+pxe server, so netboot would be a pain |
| 16:57.46 | ethanol | themill, the output does contain two passwords |
| 16:57.54 | ethanol | just wondering where it stores them |
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| 16:57.59 | ethanol | could it be enviroment variables? |
| 16:57.59 | themill | ethanol: the output of what? |
| 16:58.00 | Kuifje111 | hello, I have installed NTPd, but it syncs with the wrong timezone. This is because I entered that I live in the VS instead of in Europe at the ubuntu set up. I tried to change the timezone in /etc/timezone, but that doesnt resolve the problem. any ideas to fix this? |
| 16:58.02 | ethanol | +x |
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| 16:58.38 | himuraken | Howdy all, got a server with consistently high load averages. Top is usually very idle, cpu wait is near 27%. iostat shows the same CPU wait time. SUggestions on finding the bottleneck? |
| 16:58.44 | themill | ethanol: it's stored in debconf.... we've been through that. |
| 16:58.47 | Kevin` | Kuifje111: update the /etc/localtime link |
| 16:59.10 | Kevin` | (or file, a lot of stuff copies it instead of linking it) |
| 16:59.13 | ethanol | hrm |
| 16:59.19 | ethanol | how could I get debconf to forget it? |
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| 17:00.14 | Kuifje111 | and oops, I am talking about debian*, not that it makes a lot difference. |
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| 17:00.31 | Kuifje111 | thanks for the tip, Kevin`. |
| 17:00.48 | MayaT | hello :) |
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| 17:01.30 | Kevin` | grr, it seems this version of the debian install doesn't like unpartitioned disks |
| 17:01.36 | Kevin` | how do I install to an unpartitioned disk? |
| 17:01.41 | themill | ethanol: echo -e "mydns-mysql mydns/confirm password correct_passwd\nmydns-mysql mydns/mysql_root_passwd password correct_passwd\n" | debconf-set-selections |
| 17:02.08 | Kuifje111 | Kevin`: is that even possible? you will need to create a partition first to install it on, I think. |
| 17:02.17 | Kevin` | Kuifje111: it's possible |
| 17:02.30 | Kevin` | I do it all the time with xen guests, where it doesn't complain for some reason |
| 17:02.33 | Kuifje111 | ah, you may be right. |
| 17:02.48 | Kevin` | but here, it didn't detect the filesystem, and just shows as free space |
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| 17:03.26 | Kevin` | and more importantly, it wants me to partition the free space, it won't just select it |
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| 17:04.45 | Kevin` | is it possible to skip that step and mount it manually? |
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| 17:06.59 | MayaT | once i have installed wvdial depends on libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3); however: Package libqtgui4 is not installed. dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. what that means?? |
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| 17:09.42 | MayaT | people told me to make connection with USB modem download wvdial and install it with commands sudo dpkg -i package_file |
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| 17:12.41 | SerajewelKS | MayaT: it means that people told you shit without knowing what they were talking about |
| 17:12.49 | wamty | my ISP is installing a new wireless network |
| 17:12.54 | wamty | cant remember the name though |
| 17:12.59 | wamty | it ends with 'sm' |
| 17:13.03 | wamty | anyone might have an ideaa? |
| 17:13.05 | SerajewelKS | MayaT: type this as root: aptitude install wvdial |
| 17:13.25 | SerajewelKS | wamty: as root, type "iwlist scan" to see a list of broadcasting networks in range of your radio |
| 17:13.39 | MayaT | SerajewelKS, owhh ya... :( |
| 17:13.46 | wamty | hspa |
| 17:13.48 | wamty | thats t |
| 17:14.21 | wamty | 3G HSPA is implemented, and 4G will be LTE |
| 17:15.11 | MayaT | SerajewelKS, ok thanks. i go try now |
| 17:15.18 | wamty | heard of LTE? |
| 17:15.44 | MayaT | ~brb~ |
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| 17:19.30 | Rprp` | Hello, i have got 2 servers here, but one server can see only 3G of ram.. Other server can ee 3.3G of ram.. Can someone help me please? Error message's: http://pastebin.org/59750 i dont want to install a bigmem kernel becasue of the performance loss.. |
| 17:19.42 | f00bar80 | when i tried to iwpriv ra0 set EncryptType=WEP , i got Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument, any comment |
| 17:20.40 | Justin_ | f00bar80: why are you configuring things manually like that? why are you using WEP? |
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| 17:25.48 | jorik | Rprp`: 64 bit or 32 bit? |
| 17:26.15 | Rprp` | jorik: 32 bit |
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| 17:26.25 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm running an upgrade to lenny in a chroot in tty2, but it's only displaying in a small area on the centre of the screen. Can I make it go full-screen? |
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| 17:27.08 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, uh, is the problem maybe that it runs in a low resolution and your tft doesn't scale it to fullscreen? |
| 17:27.21 | f00bar80 | Justin_, cause another box on my lan doesn't support something else than wep, i already set things to ra0 , but network inreachable, should i dhclient ra0 ? |
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| 17:28.14 | jorik | Rprp`: then its logical its only 3GB |
| 17:28.29 | jpinx-eeepc | chellomere: the size of the characters is ok, but the system is only using the center area of the monitor |
| 17:28.35 | Rprp` | jorik: Why got my other servers then 3.3G? |
| 17:28.51 | jpinx-eeepc | chellomere: it's in Ctrl-Alt-F2 |
| 17:28.59 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, that doesn't really answer my question |
| 17:29.19 | jorik | Rprp`: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/debian-etch-32bit-with-4gb-ram-634577/ |
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| 17:29.42 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, you can use vesafb (or perhaps radeonfb, or some of the others if you have exotic hw) to probably fix that, BUT it requires a reboot. |
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| 17:30.02 | jpinx-eeepc | chellomere: ah - ok - no - it's an ancient laptop ;) |
| 17:30.18 | jpinx-eeepc | chellomere: toshiba tecra t8000 |
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| 17:30.43 | Rprp` | jorik: Yeah, i have spitted around @ google, i dont care of a loss of 600-700MB, but, for some reason its seeing 3G instead of 3.3G.. and i dunno why, if i install the bigmem kernel its solved (seeing 4G), but ofcourse, i will lose some performance here.. So.. i want to have 3.3G if thats possible |
| 17:30.47 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, ancient laptops sometimes don't scale up resolutions, and if they do, they usually use nearest neighbour-interpolation, making it fugly |
| 17:31.07 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, on an old laptop of mine, you could change this setting in the bios |
| 17:31.30 | chellomere | jpinx-eeepc, and it was really cool, you could reach the bios and change many of the settings without a reboot |
| 17:31.43 | jpinx-eeepc | chellomere: ok - thanks - it's running a long upgrade process atm, but I'll try it on reboot |
| 17:31.45 | jorik | Rprp`: its always between 2.8GB and 3.3GB... so install a 64bit OS, install bigmem (which is horrible) or leave it at 3-3.3GB |
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| 17:33.33 | f00bar80 | Justin_, any comment ???? |
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| 17:40.20 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ??? |
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| 17:42.07 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: during this etch->lenny in a chroot I'm getting a few errors about /proc not being mounted - is that going to cause me trouble later? |
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| 17:42.48 | themill | jpinx-eeepc: presumably from daemons trying to restart, I guess? |
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| 17:43.33 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: yes |
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| 17:46.02 | Titan8990_ | jpinx-eeepc, did you mount proc? |
| 17:46.34 | jpinx-eeepc | Titan8990_: nope |
| 17:46.38 | jpinx-eeepc | should I have? |
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| 17:47.19 | Titan8990_ | i have always mounted proc when I chroot. but it has gave me trouble with incompatibilities with the host kernel |
| 17:47.36 | Titan8990_ | mount -t proc proc /mnt/chroot/proc |
| 17:47.43 | jpinx-eeepc | Titan8990_: probably too late now - it's doing a second run of safe-upgrade into lenny atm |
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| 17:55.59 | asaleem | I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and now I dont have /lib/libpthread.so.0. dpkg is not working anymore. Any idea how can I install libc6 that provides it. |
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| 17:56.44 | Stereo | asaleem: what's your debian version ? |
| 17:56.53 | asaleem | etch 4.0 |
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| 17:57.01 | Stereo | and you dist-upgraded to lenny ? |
| 17:57.02 | asaleem | Stereo, etch 4.0 |
| 17:57.23 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell asaleem about etch->lenny |
| 17:57.29 | asaleem | Stereo, I was doing it to get the security updates |
| 17:57.47 | Stereo | asaleem: what's in your sources.list ? Can you pastebin it ? |
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| 17:58.08 | asaleem | jpinx-eeepc, I did not want to upgrade tom lenny |
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| 17:59.07 | jpinx-eeepc | asaleem: fairysnuff - but why not? |
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| 18:00.08 | asaleem | jpinx-eeepc, want to do that later. So many custom and proprietary apps on the system |
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| 18:00.20 | asaleem | Stereo, http://pastebin.com/d284473c5 |
| 18:00.30 | Muhammad | asaleem, note that security updates for etch will end soon in February 2010 , so you will have to upgrade or reinstalling from scratch... |
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| 18:00.59 | jpinx-eeepc | asaleem: oki-doki - just be careful that you follow that guide - I'm in the middle of an etch->lenny ;) |
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| 18:01.35 | asaleem | Muhammad, yes, thats the reason I wanted to install security updates on etch for now |
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| 18:02.13 | f00bar80 | i'm debian lenny, i installed the firmware driver and securing ra0 with iwpriv, ra0 autodetected the my adsl wirless router ESSID , but when i tried to ping my router's ip or any other IP or website, i got Connect: Network is unreachable, any comment ?????? |
| 18:02.44 | Muhammad | asaleem, you can use apt-file to know which package does libpthread.so.0 is belonging to... but it will take a while to get all the packages list... |
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| 18:03.28 | Stereo | asaleem: your sources.list looks right |
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| 18:03.40 | Stereo | asaleem: did you get any error message ? Full disk ? |
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| 18:03.49 | asaleem | Muhammad, libc6 provides that. I am unable to install anything as dpkg stopped needs that library |
| 18:04.07 | Stereo | you could scp the file from another machine |
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| 18:04.15 | asaleem | Stereo, no |
| 18:04.20 | Stereo | no ? |
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| 18:04.45 | Stereo | usb key then ? |
| 18:04.58 | Stereo | I'd copy the libraries it's complaining about, then try again |
| 18:05.12 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ? |
| 18:05.14 | jpinx-eeepc | asaleem: df -h says what? |
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| 18:06.11 | jpinx-eeepc | f00bar80: wrong password for your ESSID ? |
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| 18:06.21 | asaleem | Stereo, I started getting this error when I did apt-get dist-upgarde ""ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory "ls: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director http://pastebin.com/d597f2ed5 |
| 18:06.49 | asaleem | jpinx-eeepc, there is plenty of space |
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| 18:07.09 | Justin_ | f00bar80: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_wireless_lan_interface_with_wep |
| 18:07.35 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, that's how i used it iwpriv ra0 set Key1=YOURKEYHERE |
| 18:08.27 | jpinx-eeepc | asaleem: f00bar80 is the router yours? Can you change it's setup temporarily to prove where the issue is? |
| 18:08.41 | jpinx-eeepc | Ooooppa sorry asaleem ;) |
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| 18:10.45 | visof | can i convert .doc file to pdf ? |
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| 18:11.04 | visof | without using openoffice |
| 18:11.37 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, yes |
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| 18:12.15 | nima0102 | dpkg eclipse |
| 18:12.15 | dpkg | well, eclipse is the end of the world, or an extensible IDE written in Java, packaged for Debian. http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ http://www.eclipse.org/ #eclipse on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:12.30 | jpinx-eeepc | visof: not sure about from .doc - but google documents has much of that kind of service |
| 18:13.14 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, so ??? |
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| 18:14.18 | jpinx-eeepc | f00bar80: so try changing the router configs, make it open for a test, normal diagnostic procedures ;) |
| 18:14.29 | Titan8990_ | visof, anything that can open a .doc should be able to print a .pdf |
| 18:14.40 | Titan8990_ | visof, abiword if openoffice is the only can't use |
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| 18:15.16 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, this is my key 7288AB3BA9 then should i select wep key hex or ascii ? |
| 18:15.53 | jpinx-eeepc | f00bar80: you're not reading :/ |
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| 18:15.58 | Justin_ | f00bar80: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_wireless_lan_interface_with_wep |
| 18:18.12 | f00bar80 | Justin_,i checked it, i found nothing for ra0 , only auto lo iface lo inet loopback, allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp, should i add an entry for ra0 as mentioned in the above doc ? |
| 18:18.13 | jpinx-eeepc | Titan8990_: as a matter of interest, can abiword create .doc documents that fully comply with word in MS systems? |
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| 18:20.40 | rgr | jpinx-eeepc: neither abi-word nor open office produce fully compliant word documents IMO. Close but close is not close enough too many times. |
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| 18:21.23 | Titan8990_ | jpinx-eeepc, likely what rgr said |
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| 18:21.43 | jpinx-eeepc | rgr - :( that's why I was asking - I have experience of OOo, but not abiword - I suppose it's not a lot worse though? |
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| 18:22.24 | jpinx-eeepc | was looking for something a bit lighter-weight than OOo for the eeepc |
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| 18:26.44 | jpinx-eeepc | OOo core is 108Mbs and abiword is only 8Mbs - so I'll give it a whizzzzzz |
| 18:26.58 | icebrain | rgr: I don't think that's right. AFAIK OOo makes perfectly compliant doc and docx documents, it's MS Word that doesn't. "However, as of Service Pack 2 (released 2009) Microsoft are not claiming Microsoft Office 2007 compatibility with the ISO OOXML standard." (The OOXML was created by them) |
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| 18:28.14 | naddey | I want to buy a pci wifi card. How can a choose a debian compatible one? |
| 18:28.42 | rgr | icebrain: I know that thats right. |
| 18:28.43 | naddey | I would probably go here: http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_search.php?Search=wireless&page=20 |
| 18:29.01 | chellomere | naddey, find out the chipset it has, find out whether the chipset is supported |
| 18:29.04 | rgr | the fact is that format problems occur. And that is the bottom line : whoever is to blame. |
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| 18:29.27 | Titan8990_ | naddey, if it doesn't have the be PCI, the Alfa usb adapter are THE devices to get |
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| 18:29.52 | Titan8990_ | naddey, good linux compatibility, injection support, and one of the bester performing devices out there |
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| 18:30.29 | Titan8990_ | naddey, http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Wardriving-Extension-Strongest-Market/dp/B000QYGNKQ |
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| 18:33.37 | gigo | in squeeze, what is the command to replace grub with grub2? |
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| 18:35.24 | amphi | update-from-grub-legacy if I recall correctly |
| 18:35.32 | gigo | i ran the commadn upgrade-from-grub-legacy and now i can not boot |
| 18:35.38 | gigo | i couldn't find the command update-from-grub-legac |
| 18:35.43 | gigo | update-from-grub-legacy |
| 18:35.46 | gigo | now what should I do? |
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| 18:36.12 | EagleRock | gigo: upgrade-from-grub-legacy |
| 18:36.28 | gigo | i am unable to boot now. |
| 18:36.46 | gigo | I get error 15 |
| 18:36.46 | amphi | gigo: but you could boot from the chainloaded grub2? |
| 18:36.56 | gigo | yes |
| 18:36.57 | EagleRock | gigo: did it work when you chainloaded grub2/ |
| 18:36.58 | EagleRock | hmm |
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| 18:37.12 | gigo | so i thought it is safe to go ahead with upgrade-from-grub-legacy |
| 18:37.16 | amphi | gigo: can you boot from the grub2 shell? |
| 18:37.22 | gigo | let me try |
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| 18:38.00 | gigo | how do I go to the grub2 shell |
| 18:38.16 | gigo | all I have is a grub like black screen with the first line saying, "Grub loading stage 1.5" |
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| 18:39.57 | asaleem | jpinx-eeepc, np |
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| 18:41.46 | dragon | what's better - apt-proxy or apt-cacher? |
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| 18:43.33 | zach242 | Does anyone here use the dell omreport and omconfig tools? I am trying to bring up a newly replaced drive in the RAID config and can't get the new drive to rebuild |
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| 18:47.44 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, disabled the wep still getting connect: Network is unreachable trying to ping the router's ip |
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| 18:49.41 | iceroot | root@alpha-unix:~# apt-file update |
| 18:49.42 | iceroot | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
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| 18:49.53 | iceroot | anything wrong from my site? |
| 18:49.59 | f00bar80 | jpinx-eeepc, i even tried from System -> Administration -> Network and unchecked Roaming enabled and selected the ESSID and DHCP , always can't reach network |
| 18:50.13 | KiloBravoEight | f00bar80, by chance do you have mac allow/blocking on? |
| 18:51.15 | jpinx-eeepc | KiloBravoEight: that was my next point too ;) |
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| 18:52.51 | iceroot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/apt-file/+bug/220396 |
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| 18:53.29 | f00bar80 | You mean in my IPTables ??? or in the router's firewall ??? |
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| 18:54.10 | f00bar80 | KiloBravoEight, ...? |
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| 18:54.23 | greycat | one question mark is usually sufficient |
| 18:54.36 | Justin_ | s/usually // |
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| 18:55.21 | f00bar80 | KiloBravoEight, also from System -> preferences -> network manager editor, i can't see any wireless interfaces |
| 18:55.41 | KiloBravoEight | on the router, is mac address filtering enabled? |
| 18:55.45 | abhifx | can someone recommend me a good ftp downloader? |
| 18:55.54 | Justin_ | abhifx: wget |
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| 18:56.33 | greycat | also curl, lftp |
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| 18:57.05 | f00bar80 | KiloBravoEight, no , also i have in Security Allow New Devices: New stations are allowed (automatically) |
| 18:57.12 | Justin_ | best feature in lftp is that it also works for http:// urls |
| 18:57.18 | f00bar80 | KiloBravoEight, channel is 11 |
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| 18:57.48 | abhifx | Justin_, thanks. any more alternatives |
| 18:57.55 | greycat | three should be enough to start with |
| 18:58.39 | jelly | Justin_: it's starting to suffer from bloat... they added torrent as well |
| 18:58.53 | abhifx | greycat, hey man thanks a lot |
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| 18:59.10 | Justin_ | jelly: does it use the bittorrent protocol or just support the url embedded for http seeding? |
| 18:59.59 | Justin_ | looks like actual torrent protocol support.. odd |
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| 19:00.07 | f00bar80 | Justin_, you didn't answer me regarding /etc/network/interfaces , should i add an entry for ra0 there ???? |
| 19:00.14 | Justin_ | f00bar80: of course |
| 19:00.19 | f00bar80 | ppl i really don't know what's wrong |
| 19:00.49 | Justin_ | f00bar80: you tried to configure things manually instead of just clicking twice in network-manager |
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| 19:00.54 | f00bar80 | how there's TX/RX packets and i'm getting Connect: Network is unreachable |
| 19:01.32 | Justin_ | f00bar80: does iwconfig say you are assocated? yes/no ? |
| 19:01.46 | f00bar80 | justin, i even tried from System -> Administration -> Network and unchecked Roaming enabled and selected the ESSID and DHCP , always can't reach network neither i found entries in interfaces file |
| 19:01.57 | greycat | you're repeating yourself. |
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| 19:03.14 | djveer | hey guys, what's the command using dd to zero a hard disk again? |
| 19:04.11 | greycat | read from /dev/zero and write to the thing you want to clobber |
| 19:04.27 | greycat | you might want to use a non-default block size for efficiency |
| 19:04.43 | djveer | okay cool thanks greycat |
| 19:05.20 | djveer | so that's like... ' dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024' ? |
| 19:05.43 | greycat | I'd use a larger block size, but sure, |
| 19:05.46 | f00bar80 | Justin_, what do you mean exactly by associated ?/? |
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| 19:05.56 | Justin_ | f00bar80: oh dear |
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| 19:06.38 | greycat | with modern devices, a 64k block size is usually a good start |
| 19:07.06 | djveer | greycat: how does changing that effect the results? |
| 19:07.07 | Justin_ | heh, i usually use 1M |
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| 19:07.35 | greycat | it's just speed |
| 19:07.55 | djveer | so 64k, is that 65535 |
| 19:07.57 | djveer | *? |
| 19:08.05 | f00bar80 | Justin_, ?? |
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| 19:08.34 | f00bar80 | Justin_, Tx/Rx doesnt' mean it's already associated ???? |
| 19:08.37 | Justin_ | no |
| 19:08.42 | Justin_ | associated means it is associated |
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| 19:09.29 | Justin_ | Mode:Managed Frequency:2.422 GHz Access Point: 00:11:D8:43:7B:CD |
| 19:09.31 | Justin_ | compared to |
| 19:09.45 | Justin_ | Mode:Auto Frequency=2.437 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated |
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| 19:10.38 | jj_jeoy | it wont be assiocated if not on the same channel |
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| 19:15.02 | do0ob | yes please |
| 19:15.08 | do0ob | spamming with porn links |
| 19:15.30 | do0ob | Relay: hello, are you a real user? |
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| 19:15.43 | do0ob | maybe its just a bot |
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| 19:15.46 | Titan8990_ | !op Relay spam |
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| 19:16.06 | Justin_ | forot the s |
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| 19:16.13 | Titan8990_ | !ops Relay spam |
| 19:16.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990_ complains about: Relay spam |
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| 19:16.36 | greycat | For god's sake, people, ONE report is enough. You don't have to SPAM THE FUCKING CHANNEL 17 TIMES. |
| 19:16.43 | greycat | You're worse than the bots. |
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| 19:18.05 | jess^ | lol |
| 19:18.36 | jess^ | sounds like greycat needs a nap :/ |
| 19:19.51 | Kuifje111 | hi.. |
| 19:19.56 | Kuifje111 | how do I find suid/guid files? |
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| 19:20.11 | greycat | Kuifje111: there are examples on http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
| 19:20.15 | simonrvn | using find |
| 19:20.44 | Kuifje111 | ok, so something like this? find -type f -perm 5000 |
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| 19:21.50 | greycat | that would require that the permissions be precisely --------- plus the sticky bit and the setuid bit. very unlikely to exist. |
| 19:22.28 | f00bar80 | Justin_, here's a paste for the output of iwconfig http://pastebin.com/d54bf45b1 |
| 19:24.32 | f00bar80 | Justin_, any comment ? |
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| 19:25.01 | Justin_ | f00bar80: did you configure that using /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:26.50 | f00bar80 | Justin_, no just ifconfig ra0 up |
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| 19:27.36 | Justin_ | f00bar80: why do you insist on doing things the hard way? |
| 19:27.56 | Titan8990_ | Justin_, IMO /etc/network/interfaces is less than ideal for wireless configuration |
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| 19:28.18 | Justin_ | Titan8990_: which is why clicking twice in network-manager is much easier |
| 19:28.22 | Titan8990_ | Justin_, It lacks things such as support for multiple essid configurations |
| 19:28.49 | Titan8990_ | Justin_, if nm works properly, yes |
| 19:29.11 | Justin_ | Titan8990_: do you want to try getting him to properly configure his wireless network? i give up |
| 19:29.50 | Justin_ | debian provides multiple simple graphical and configuration file approaches to configuring wireless, and he seems averse to using any of them |
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| 19:33.22 | f00bar80 | Justin_, then you tell me, i'll reboot the debian box and you guide me if you don't mind , cause i'm already fedup |
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| 19:33.45 | Justin_ | f00bar80: the only problem you have is that you insist on running random commands that don't properly setup the connection |
| 19:33.58 | Justin_ | use the gui OR use /etc/network/interfaces. DO NOT run random commands and expect it to work |
| 19:34.26 | f00bar80 | justin, honestly i already tried from System -> Administration -> Network and unchecked Roaming enabled and selected the ESSID and DHCP , always can't reach network neither i found entries in interfaces file |
| 19:34.41 | Justin_ | install network-manager |
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| 19:34.48 | Justin_ | step 1. click the ssid |
| 19:34.52 | Justin_ | step 2. there is no step 2 |
| 19:35.36 | f00bar80 | Justin_, network isn't this which i have at System -> Administration -> Network ?????? |
| 19:35.47 | Justin_ | no |
| 19:35.57 | greycat | f00bar80: stop repeating things you said 45 minutes ago. |
| 19:36.07 | greycat | read what you're told instead of just hitting the up arrow and enter over and over. |
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| 19:37.27 | f00bar80 | Justin_, the apt-get install network-manager ????? |
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| 19:37.47 | jelly-home | !!!! |
| 19:37.48 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 19:37.49 | Justin_ | network-manager-gnome most likely |
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| 19:38.59 | babilen_ | ... and aptitude install |
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| 19:40.08 | f00bar80 | Justin_, k, now when i open it i found no interfaces |
| 19:40.37 | Justin_ | did you put ra0 in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 19:40.56 | laurus | Has anyone here had issues with getting PostgreSQL to work on Debian 5.0.3? I just reinstalled and for some reason I can't connect as the postgres user no matter how I try to modify pg_hba.conf. |
| 19:41.11 | Justin_ | laurus: don't modify pg_hba.conf |
| 19:41.14 | Justin_ | laurus: su - postgres |
| 19:41.52 | babilen_ | laurus: ... as root |
| 19:42.12 | laurus | What does su - postgres do? |
| 19:42.21 | laurus | The - is unfamiliar to me |
| 19:42.26 | greycat | it starts an interactive login shell as the postgres unix account |
| 19:43.05 | laurus | Okay, it asked me for a password, and then failed when I typed my root password. |
| 19:43.10 | greycat | assuming the postgres account HAS an interactive shell defined as its shell in the password DB.... |
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| 19:43.23 | laurus | Yeah, I don't think it even does... |
| 19:43.25 | greycat | laurus: you have to be root first, then use the su. |
| 19:43.39 | laurus | Oh, thanks babilen, I missed your comment! |
| 19:43.57 | babilen | laurus: no problem ... i just expected this to happen :-) |
| 19:44.04 | laurus | Okay Justin_ here I am as postgres, now what? |
| 19:44.20 | babilen | laurus: 'psql' |
| 19:44.26 | laurus | Right... |
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| 19:45.07 | laurus | The thing is, I'm trying to connect through pgadmin3 to the postgres database, and it fails. |
| 19:45.17 | Justin_ | because by default the postgres user does not have a password set |
| 19:45.42 | Justin_ | and by default postgres is configured to only use ident authentication(unless they added md5 in lenny) |
| 19:45.53 | laurus | Justin_, but I set the password through psql earlier. |
| 19:46.06 | laurus | I also replaced the words "ident authentication" with "md5" |
| 19:46.09 | laurus | in pg_hba.conf. |
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| 19:47.07 | abrotman | how did oyu install pgadmin3 ? |
| 19:47.09 | Justin_ | replacing was teh wrong thing to do |
| 19:47.17 | Justin_ | you should add a new line for md5 |
| 19:47.36 | laurus | Ok Justin_ , so that line reads: local all all md5 ? |
| 19:47.40 | Justin_ | since if you just 'replace' that implies you kept the 'local' and most likely you are trying to connect to it remotely |
| 19:47.55 | Justin_ | but who the hell knows what you are doing since you seem intent on making everyone guess |
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| 19:48.25 | laurus | My fault |
| 19:50.55 | radoe | laurus: do you run pgadmin and database on the same host? |
| 19:51.07 | laurus | radius, yes. |
| 19:51.13 | laurus | This is all totally local |
| 19:51.25 | f00bar80 | Justin_, add with same entries as in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_wireless_lan_interface_with_wep but with my values ? right ???? or only i need to add allow-hotplug ra0 iface ra0 inet dhcp ? and after modifying interfaces , only i have to check the network-manager-editor ?? |
| 19:51.30 | laurus | That's why it's so frustrating, this has always worked in the past. |
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| 19:51.42 | NoCode | I wonder what changed in the latest xorg update that I just had. |
| 19:51.49 | Justin_ | f00bar80: no, as I said before, 'use the gui OR use /etc/network/interfaces' |
| 19:52.18 | Justin_ | f00bar80: if you edit the interfaces file you can't use network-manager |
| 19:52.33 | yang | Could I get a quick manual on creating an ISO image from DVD with wodim ? |
| 19:52.58 | greycat | yang: you typically would not use wodim for that. just "cp /dev/MYDVDDEVICE myfile.iso" |
| 19:53.09 | radoe | laurus: lenny by default has "host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5" in pg_hba.conf, which should be sufficient if your postgres user has a password (AFAIK pgadmin uses TCP and not unix domain sockets...) |
| 19:53.16 | greycat | although it's doubtful whether your DVD would contain an ISO9660 file system as opposed to a UDF file system |
| 19:53.35 | yang | greycat: thanks |
| 19:53.51 | f00bar80 | Justin_, k i didn't yet modify interfaces , so i opened network-manager-editor found nothing |
| 19:53.54 | laurus | radoe: Hmm, I do see the line, yes. |
| 19:53.57 | radoe | laurus: please show your pg_hba.conf. |
| 19:54.07 | Justin_ | f00bar80: no no no no no |
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| 19:54.20 | Justin_ | f00bar80: add the network manager applet to your panel |
| 19:54.24 | yang | cp /dev/sr0 image.iso input/output error |
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| 19:54.33 | yang | do i need to perform with mounted drive ? |
| 19:54.36 | laurus | radoe, it's at http://pastebin.com/d37fbecb2 |
| 19:55.16 | greycat | yang: no |
| 19:55.18 | Justin_ | doesn't the default gnome metapackage in debian start the nm applet? |
| 19:55.20 | radoe | laurus: you have "ident sameuser" even for host (TCP) connections.... |
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| 19:55.39 | radoe | laurus: change these to be md5. |
| 19:55.48 | f00bar80 | Justin_, how to add this NM applet to panel ? |
| 19:55.49 | yang | doesnt seem to work |
| 19:55.57 | greycat | yang: what version of Debian are you using, and what kernel? I doubt you'd want the SCSI-emulation devices (scd0 or sr0) on any 2.6 kernel. |
| 19:56.08 | Justin_ | f00bar80: you right click the panel? |
| 19:56.13 | greycat | unless it's an actually-SCSI-for-real drive |
| 19:56.42 | laurus | radoe, it worked! |
| 19:56.44 | laurus | Changing them worked. |
| 19:56.59 | babilen | f00bar80: 'sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager start' and 'nm-applet' (you can also add nm-applet to autostart) |
| 19:57.14 | babilen | f00bar80: But try 'nm-applet' first ... it might just work |
| 19:57.14 | yang | greycat: debian testing |
| 19:57.35 | yang | Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1924529 |
| 19:57.37 | greycat | then you're using a 2.6 kernel and therefore if this is an SATA or ATAPI device, you should be using one of those names. |
| 19:57.42 | yang | with buffer errors |
| 19:57.47 | laurus | Thanks a million radoe, Justin_, babilen, and greycat :) |
| 19:57.48 | yang | SATA |
| 19:57.50 | greycat | either hda or sda or whatever. |
| 19:57.55 | greycat | sda for SATA |
| 19:58.04 | babilen | f00bar80: Best way to execute that is through GNOME's run dialog with alt-f2 |
| 19:58.07 | yang | sda is my drive |
| 19:58.07 | greycat | (sdb, sdc, whatever) - NOT scd* or sr* |
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| 19:58.23 | yang | I can mount DVD with "mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/dvdrom" |
| 19:58.31 | Justin_ | wonders why people just don't use the default installs |
| 19:58.34 | babilen | laurus: You might want to consider creating a user for yourself. The command to do so is 'createuser' IIRC |
| 19:58.44 | laurus | babilen, yes, I've done that as well :) |
| 19:59.03 | greycat | yang: welcome to the wonderful world of linux 2.6. |
| 19:59.04 | babilen | laurus: alright ... than happy SQLing! |
| 19:59.07 | yang | sda/sdb/sdc are my hard drives |
| 19:59.07 | laurus | Thank you! |
| 19:59.08 | laurus | :) |
| 19:59.27 | greycat | yang: then what the hell is your DVD drive? |
| 19:59.53 | Justin_ | notes that 'gnome' depends on network-manager-gnome |
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| 20:00.33 | greycat | yang: what does "ls /sys/block" say? |
| 20:00.46 | cH40z-Lord | what was the name of the commercial vm that allows me to play games on unix ? |
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| 20:01.19 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: there are several, including some free software ones |
| 20:01.41 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: you're going to have to be more specific than "play games" because a game could be freecell or left 4 dead |
| 20:01.43 | cH40z-Lord | the counterpart of WINe |
| 20:01.53 | cH40z-Lord | 3d games like l4d |
| 20:01.54 | greycat | cedega? |
| 20:01.57 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: i assume you mean cedega |
| 20:01.59 | yang | greycat: K3B will say - cannot copy encrypted DVD |
| 20:02.01 | cH40z-Lord | yes (: |
| 20:02.01 | neoice | so I have a poweredge 1550 with a PERC raid card and Lenny isnt autodetecting or accepting megaraid. where should I go next? |
| 20:02.04 | cH40z-Lord | thanks (: |
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| 20:02.04 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: which, incidentally, is not a virtual machine |
| 20:02.20 | greycat | yang: what does "ls /sys/block" say? |
| 20:02.21 | xyan | cH40z-Lord: crossover games maybe, also not a vm but based on wine |
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| 20:02.31 | Caelum | what package has gnome sound themes? |
| 20:02.31 | cH40z-Lord | and what is it exactly instead of a vm that emulates a OS/libs ? |
| 20:02.33 | Justin_ | neoice: lspci |
| 20:02.35 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: and i would try current versions of wine too -- i got team fortress 2 running on bleeding-edge wine |
| 20:02.36 | yang | greycat: its /dev/sr0 |
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| 20:02.48 | cH40z-Lord | ah, ok, thanks SerajewelKS |
| 20:02.49 | Justin_ | !+hcl |
| 20:02.50 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists are at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/, or ask me about <modinfo pci alias>, <judd-hardware>. |
| 20:02.50 | yang | greycat: but there are a dozen listed |
| 20:02.58 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: it's a win32/directx emulation library built on top of libc/opengl |
| 20:03.09 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: (roughly speaking. it's more than that, but that's the basic idea.) |
| 20:03.15 | neoice | Justin_: adaptec aic-7899p u160/m. I'm googling now |
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| 20:03.28 | gokoon | Hello, is there some install image to install debian on a mac intel ? |
| 20:03.28 | neoice | I always forget lspci :P |
| 20:03.36 | Justin_ | neoice: no. /msg dpkg hcl |
| 20:03.36 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: e.g. directsound is built on top of alsa/oss/jack/etc |
| 20:03.38 | xsamurai | is it ok to use etch kernel on lenny ? |
| 20:03.59 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: there are lots of parts of win32 that are emulated, and basically proxied to various linux equivalents |
| 20:04.07 | neoice | Justin_: with the whole thing? its hard to paste from an install to IRC. |
| 20:04.12 | cH40z-Lord | alright, thanks |
| 20:04.18 | Justin_ | neoice: you just need the numbers on the line you are interested in |
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| 20:04.22 | SerajewelKS | cH40z-Lord: but when the application is not making win32 calls then it's executing entirely on its own, without any help from wine. hence it's not a VM. |
| 20:04.36 | Justin_ | neoice: xxxx:xxxx |
| 20:04.36 | greycat | yang: well then, I guess I can't help you much. Mine is ATAPI and it's hda (not sr0). |
| 20:04.46 | Caelum | xsamurai: newer kernels are almost always fine, older kernels may not be |
| 20:05.38 | xsamurai | Caelum: current lenny xen kernel has issues |
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| 20:05.58 | greycat | I also notice that my lenny box's /sys/block has all these funny loop* and ram* things that my unstable home box doesn't have. No idea why. |
| 20:06.08 | Justin_ | xsamurai: 504805 or something else? |
| 20:06.38 | f00bar80 | Justin_, nm-applet -> While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based athentication failed |
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| 20:07.02 | xsamurai | Justin_: nope , resource related issue |
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| 20:07.15 | f00bar80 | babilen, Gnome's run Dialog ---> what do you mean by this ?? |
| 20:07.19 | xsamurai | it was noted on lkml |
| 20:07.34 | neoice | Justin_: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ says to use the aic7xxx driver but still no go. |
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| 20:07.41 | Justin_ | neoice: what does it say for kernel? |
| 20:07.52 | Justin_ | f00bar80: what sort of bastardized debian install is this you are running? |
| 20:08.25 | neoice | 2.6.25- |
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| 20:08.35 | Django | peeps .. how can i make tightvnc interact with the currently running xfce desktop on my laptob now it opens a new on in the background |
| 20:08.38 | f00bar80 | Jussi, debina lenny |
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| 20:09.08 | xsamurai | Justin_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499745 |
| 20:09.10 | neoice | Justin_: 2.6.25- so lenny should work |
| 20:09.20 | Justin_ | f00bar80: did you JUST install network-manager? |
| 20:09.35 | f00bar80 | Justin_, yes |
| 20:09.39 | f00bar80 | and started it |
| 20:09.45 | Justin_ | f00bar80: try logging out and or rebooting |
| 20:09.50 | xsamurai | 2.6.18 on etch was fine |
| 20:10.36 | f00bar80 | Justin_, k rebooted |
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| 20:12.38 | neoice | Justin_: I'd like to run testing/unstable on this machine, think it might have better luck with the raid drivers? |
| 20:12.48 | Justin_ | !+kmuto |
| 20:12.50 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 20:12.51 | Justin_ | try that |
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| 20:13.18 | Justin_ | xsamurai: yeah, never had any problems with xen in etch, in lenny it has some issues |
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| 20:14.28 | neoice | Justin_: k, I'll try the backported intstaller and be back in 25-30 mins if it fails. |
| 20:14.43 | f00bar80 | Justin_, /etc/init.d/network-manager start <- that's how i started the network manager from a root terminal got "Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager", now should i jut run nm-applet ?????? |
| 20:15.16 | valdyn | f00bar80: can you please stop using excess punctuation? |
| 20:15.36 | Justin_ | f00bar80: no! you shouldn't be manually starting things! |
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| 20:16.02 | greycat | f00bar80: yeah, what do you think this is, UNIX? |
| 20:16.10 | valdyn | starting nm-applet manually shouldnt hurt |
| 20:16.28 | Justin_ | I was not talkign about nm-applet, I was talking about /etc/init.d/network-manager |
| 20:16.32 | Justin_ | it should start on its own |
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| 20:17.14 | valdyn | f00bar80: no harm done, run your nm-applet and see |
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| 20:21.11 | f00bar80 | Justin_, you told me to start network-manager using /etc/init.d/network-manager start didn't you ? |
| 20:21.32 | Justin_ | f00bar80: no |
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| 20:21.39 | f00bar80 | Justin_, so now how can i run nm-applet not in a manual way ? |
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| 20:22.03 | Justin_ | nm-applet is not /etc/init.d/network-manager |
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| 20:24.16 | greycat | It was in fact babilen who told him to run /etc/init.d/network-manager start |
| 20:24.25 | babilen | f00bar80: I was that |
| 20:24.32 | babilen | f00bar80: now execute nm-applet |
| 20:24.46 | Justin_ | grr, also looks like in debian you have to add yourself to the netdev group to actually do anything |
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| 20:24.54 | Justin_ | wonders why that is |
| 20:25.08 | f00bar80 | Justin_, what i have in Add to Panel is Network Monitor no Network Manager |
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| 20:25.19 | Justin_ | yeayeah, realized it doesn't show up there |
| 20:25.34 | babilen | f00bar80: You have to execute the PROGRAM nm-applet which will add itself to the panel |
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| 20:25.42 | f00bar80 | babilen, nm-applet -> While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based athentication failed |
| 20:25.44 | Justin_ | though i'm fairly certain if you had just installed the main gnome metapackage it would have automatically added it to the session |
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| 20:25.50 | Justin_ | f00bar80: add yourself to the netdev group |
| 20:25.52 | greycat | http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager tells me to see /usr/share/doc/network-manager-gnome/README.Debian to see why, but that doesn't help if I'm on lenny |
| 20:26.06 | greycat | or if I don't have n-m installed |
| 20:26.52 | Justin_ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549420 |
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| 20:27.09 | babilen | f00bar80: did you execute nm-applet as root? if so -> don't |
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| 20:29.15 | f00bar80 | Justin_, the user is already a member of `netdev` |
| 20:29.47 | babilen | f00bar80: and i told you (a bit later maybe) that you should try running 'nm-applet' before you do /etc/init.d/network-manager start .. |
| 20:29.56 | babilen | f00bar80: So, is the applet there? |
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| 20:30.26 | f00bar80 | babilen, yes the nm-applet is ther |
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| 20:30.55 | babilen | f00bar80: so no problems anymore? |
| 20:31.33 | f00bar80 | adding the applet is not the problem the problem is to get connected to my wireless router |
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| 20:31.45 | Justin_ | f00bar80: click the applet. click the ssid. |
| 20:31.48 | f00bar80 | Justin_, then what after i did add the applet ? |
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| 20:33.09 | Janni | Hi. |
| 20:33.18 | duet | hello everyone |
| 20:33.34 | xand | !sparc |
| 20:33.34 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded systems usually run Solaris. For more information about SPARC, see http://www.sparc.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC . To install Debian, ask me about <install guide> and see http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc . For help with Debian on SPARC, join #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:34.02 | icebrain | xand: next time, use /msg dpkg [subject] |
| 20:34.46 | Janni | I wanted to change my language preferences from German to Dutch, so I set LANG to "nl_NL.UTF-8". But this has no other effect than giving me the message "bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (nl_NL.UTF-8)" repeatedly. Did I forget something? |
| 20:34.50 | xand | I'll consider it. |
| 20:34.59 | greycat | Janni: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 20:35.07 | Janni | greycat: thx |
| 20:35.23 | xand | icebrain: if the bot wasn't meant to be used in channel, it wouldn't respond here. |
| 20:35.53 | lotus-blade | I am having a small problem with my web server. I am told that I need to get it to resolve to my local ip. how do I do this? |
| 20:35.53 | greycat | xand: there's a fine line between using the bot publically to educate others, and using the bot in public just for your own personal queries |
| 20:35.57 | icebrain | xand: that feature is for when you want to show someone the factoid, not for personal use |
| 20:36.32 | xand | icebrain: get over it. |
| 20:36.33 | Kuifje111 | lotus-blade: 127.0.0.1? localhost? |
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| 20:36.40 | f00bar80 | Justin_, how to modify the dns for this ? as i'm only ping IPs not domain names |
| 20:36.52 | Justin_ | f00bar80: WHY WHY WHY |
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| 20:37.53 | Justin_ | do you have a broken router that does not properly do dhcp and dns? |
| 20:37.57 | f00bar80 | Justin_, trying to access yahoo.com i can't reach it |
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| 20:38.22 | f00bar80 | Justin_, it doesn't do dns |
| 20:38.24 | lotus-blade | i think that is what they ment. I use anouther computer to access the web then it requests from the web my webserver |
| 20:38.25 | Justin_ | maybe you have the same isp as that guy before that randomly steals IP addresses from other networks and assigns them to their clients |
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| 20:38.55 | Justin_ | f00bar80: it does dhcp? does the dhcp response not include dns servers? |
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| 20:39.48 | f00bar80 | Justin_, i don't know , but i used always to enter my ISP's DNS even if i'm dhcping |
| 20:40.02 | greycat | Good god. |
| 20:40.09 | Justin_ | greycat: what is with people today? |
| 20:40.30 | Justin_ | "hi, my system is completely broken in every way but can you help me work around these various issues instead of fixing the actual problem?" |
| 20:41.04 | greycat | I get the impression he's been living with broken stuff so long he no longer perceives it as broken. |
| 20:41.20 | jelly-home | Justin_: perhaps the problem is a layer 8 issue. |
| 20:41.23 | jelly-home | hides |
| 20:41.25 | KiloBravoEight | heh |
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| 20:42.09 | morenita | i have lenny + kde4 with testing repositories. for some days everything was ok. then suddenly kwin started crashing on startup and i have to immediately switch to metacity. i've read that this might be caused by alt+tab use, which i did use before the crash, although the crash didn't happen until next startup. any help appreciated. |
| 20:42.52 | duet | whats up with flash not working on iceweasel |
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| 20:43.09 | greycat | sounds like a great idea. |
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| 20:45.42 | sash_ | can anyone tell me what it means, when lshw marks a device (here videocard) as unclaimed? in html-view it is red fontcolor with a lightgrey background? |
| 20:46.42 | f00bar80 | Justin_, any idea ?? |
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| 20:50.28 | Selveste1 | Is there a way to expand you ext3 with resize2fs so et uses all free space ? |
| 20:50.43 | f00bar80 | how may i add dns to the active wireless connection |
| 20:50.47 | Selveste1 | like resize2fs 100% /des/sad1 ? |
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| 20:51.01 | Selveste1 | */dev/sda1 |
| 20:51.10 | valdyn | f00bar80: dns is not bound to any connection |
| 20:51.10 | jhutchins | sash_: How do you get html view from lshw? Run it in a gui? |
| 20:51.11 | jelly-home | Selveste1: or just resizefs /dev/whatever |
| 20:51.14 | silidan | hey, what happened to libpython2.6 in debian sid? |
| 20:51.15 | jelly-home | 2* |
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| 20:51.18 | greycat | f00bar80: edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand. Then figure out what the HELL is wrong with your DHCP server. |
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| 20:52.04 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: I only have resize2fs :) |
| 20:52.25 | jelly-home | Selveste1: mind the typos. And resize the partition first. And reread the partition table afterwards. And the disk will to be completely unused for the pt. table reread to work. |
| 20:52.33 | morenita | greycat, any idea? |
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| 20:52.53 | sash_ | jhutchins: as root: lshw -html > lshw.html |
| 20:53.18 | jelly-home | Selveste1: if there are other filesystems in use on that disk, you'll have to umount/swapoff/whatever them |
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| 20:53.25 | greycat | scrolls up three screens or so and sees "kde" and stops reading. |
| 20:53.47 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: I have an lvm where I have merged to LVMs to one, but I have to resize the fs to :) is there a way to fill out the free space 100% without finding blocksize and all that? |
| 20:53.55 | jhutchins | sash_: Cool. |
| 20:54.07 | jhutchins | Last time I looked at lshw it was barely functional. |
| 20:54.15 | lunaphyte_ | hi. i have the hard disk from a server which has since died, connected to another server. i'd like to check on some package names for certain packages that were installed on the dead server. how can i do this? |
| 20:54.27 | greycat | lunaphyte_: /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 20:54.46 | jelly-home | Selveste1: if your lv is resized already, just do "resize2fs /dev/whatever" to grow the filesystem. |
| 20:54.58 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: thanks :) |
| 20:55.08 | sw4 | did anyone manage to set a iwl3945 wireless card in master mode ? |
| 20:55.27 | sash_ | jhutchins: i dont know, how reliable lshw really is... |
| 20:55.32 | lunaphyte_ | greycat: ah, thank you, that's exactly what i'm after. |
| 20:55.39 | jelly-home | Selveste1: try to quiesce I/O on that device as much as you can. There seem to be some weird race conditions when doing online resize. |
| 20:56.12 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: wee I have 120 GB free space now :) I will force a fschek on next boot :) |
| 20:56.35 | jelly-home | Selveste1: resize2fs is pretty safe for ext3. |
| 20:57.08 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: I know, but it cant harm to make the chk :) |
| 20:57.16 | jelly-home | we do it for production machines all the time |
| 20:57.24 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I am trying to setup a local mirror of amd64 and i386. On http://www.debian.org/mirror/size is says they are 32 GB a piece so it should take up 64 GB right? ftpsync is STILL going and its filled up 111 GB! Why? |
| 20:57.28 | jelly-home | (where we means $employer) |
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| 20:57.45 | jhutchins | sash_: I think you're seeing one of the failure modes. |
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| 20:57.50 | f00bar80 | still can't load any website |
| 20:57.57 | f00bar80 | any comment ? |
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| 20:58.23 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: This is just my laptop :) |
| 20:58.25 | valdyn | Gokee2: mirror of WHAT? the whole debian archive? |
| 20:58.26 | catsup_ | Gokee2: maybe you're downloading more than you think |
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| 20:58.36 | jhutchins | Selveste1: Often it's quicker to backup, repartition, reformat, restore than to do a live resize. |
| 20:58.37 | f00bar80 | i always got loading www.google.com and then i got www.google.com could not be found , any comment ????/ |
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| 20:58.54 | jhutchins | f00bar80: Um...DNS failure? |
| 20:58.59 | valdyn | Gokee2: that would be more like close to a TB ( wild guess ) |
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| 20:59.11 | sash_ | jhutchins: you mean this "unclaimed"-crap? i mean, it is a radeon-video-card that works, but it seems not to be able to use all those eyecandy-things in kde |
| 20:59.14 | f00bar80 | jhutchins, so ????? |
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| 20:59.25 | Gokee2 | valdyn, Then what is http://www.debian.org/mirror/size talking about? |
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| 20:59.38 | jhutchins | sash_: Do you have a kernel-level driver for it? |
| 20:59.48 | valdyn | Gokee2: its saying 459G for a complete mirror |
| 20:59.48 | Gokee2 | I am trying to mirror the whole archive for only i368 and amd64 |
| 20:59.49 | jhutchins | f00bar80: So fix your DNS. |
| 20:59.49 | catsup_ | valdyn: 459GB for the whole thing... but he's not doing the whole thing... |
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| 21:00.03 | Gokee2 | So that should be 64 GB? |
| 21:00.18 | Gokee2 | I DID put in the exclude line |
| 21:00.41 | Gokee2 | "ARCH_EXCLUDE="alpha arm armel hppa hurd-i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mipsel mips powerpc s390 sh sparc"" |
| 21:01.16 | jhutchins | f00bar80: Can host resolve the hostname? Can you ping a website? Can you connect to the website with telnet? |
| 21:01.16 | ranix | I have a fully-functional disk with root as /dev/sda1. I would like to create a mirror using this device with mdadm, but oviously the root partition is currently mounted. Mdadm tells me this also, and exits with an error. How would I go about doing this? |
| 21:01.24 | Gokee2 | And I don't see anything other then amd64 and i368 in my archive |
| 21:01.34 | jelly-home | ranix: livecd? |
| 21:01.36 | f00bar80 | jhutchins, i already used to manually enter my ISP/s DNS to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:01.46 | valdyn | Gokee2: you are excluding source? |
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| 21:01.47 | ranix | jelly-home: I do have the debian install cd |
| 21:01.50 | jhutchins | ranix: Boot to some other device (live CD?). |
| 21:01.57 | jhutchins | f00bar80: Can host resolve the hostname? Can you ping a website? Can you connect to the website with telnet? |
| 21:02.01 | ranix | should I just get /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf set up right? |
| 21:02.07 | jelly-home | ranix: it isn't a very good livecd, but if it has mdadm, you can do it |
| 21:02.16 | ranix | I do have my install CD |
| 21:02.23 | Gokee2 | valdyn, Eh... er... Source is not included in the 64 GB? |
| 21:02.25 | jelly-home | ranix: mdadm.conf isn't really needed or used much |
| 21:02.36 | sash_ | jhutchins: well... i am not a native english-speaker, so i dont really understand. i installed xserver-xorg-[whatever]-radeonhd on debian unstable. it is my office-machine @ work, so i am not able to do anything on it at the moment |
| 21:02.46 | itchi | Hi, i plugged in an usb headset with build-in audio card, it's been recognised, but how do i turn of the build-in laptop audio card and activate the headset? |
| 21:02.48 | valdyn | Gokee2: source is another 58 |
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| 21:03.22 | Gokee2 | valdyn, Awww blast right! Thanks! :) |
| 21:03.24 | Justin_ | ranix: go to single user mode, build a degraded array with the new drive, copy the system over |
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| 21:03.38 | Justin_ | itchi: you don't need to. |
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| 21:03.44 | jelly-home | Justin_: eh, that means copying the same stuff two times |
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| 21:03.57 | Justin_ | jelly-home: technically |
| 21:04.03 | ranix | Justin_: I'll give it a shot and come back to ask more questions |
| 21:04.20 | jelly-home | prefers reusing the original as... the original |
| 21:04.31 | Justin_ | jelly-home: is that supported these days? |
| 21:04.38 | Selveste1 | jelly-home: thaks it worked :) |
| 21:04.44 | jelly-home | Justin_: with a livecd, sure |
| 21:05.08 | Justin_ | that doesn't fuckup the raid bitmap stuff? |
| 21:05.08 | itchi | Justin_: In KDE in the volume control i got a new tab "C-Media USB Headphone Set" all is on there, and when speaking in the micro of the headset i hear me in the headset but not on the laptop speakers. |
| 21:05.09 | jelly-home | ranix: how many partitions are there on the disk? |
| 21:05.11 | krakel | itchi, cat /proc/asound/cards (will show which number each device has) |
| 21:05.30 | jelly-home | Justin_: there is no bitmap by default. |
| 21:05.32 | Justin_ | itchi: not relevant |
| 21:05.37 | Justin_ | jelly-home: but bitmaps are good |
| 21:06.23 | jelly-home | Justin_: yay! |
| 21:06.26 | itchi | O is the laptop one and 1 default is set to the C-media USB headset |
| 21:06.34 | jelly-home | Justin_: they're still not used by default. |
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| 21:07.43 | jelly-home | Justin_: but there is still a bit of metadata that may or may not overwrite parts of the filesystem if one's not careful, right |
| 21:07.47 | itchi | but still doesnt give sound in the headset :-s |
| 21:07.47 | f00bar80 | jhutchins, host yahoo.com -> connection timed out; no servers could be reached, ping yahoo.com -> ping: unknown host yahoo.com, telnet: could not resolve yahoo.com/telnet: Name or service not known |
| 21:07.56 | Justin_ | itchi: again, not relevant |
| 21:08.27 | jelly-home | Justin_: your way of doing things is safe, mine's not |
| 21:10.16 | silidan | is python 2.6 still not in debian sid repos or am i just blind?? |
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| 21:10.35 | syrius | hi |
| 21:10.41 | krakel | itchi, I think you need something like jackd to direct the input from the headset to be output on the other device |
| 21:10.52 | syrius | http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ is this a site like this for mac powerpc? |
| 21:11.12 | Justin_ | !wayttd itchi |
| 21:11.13 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, itchi? |
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| 21:11.34 | itchi | krakel: No, i just want to hear in my usb headset wich has a stupid build-in audio card |
| 21:11.39 | badcloud | can you receive notification msgs from 'remind' outside of the terminal? I'm running qt on debian (qtmoko for short) but don't want to have to keep a terminal in the foreground |
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| 21:12.20 | Justin_ | silidan: it's in experimental |
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| 21:13.56 | reaktae | i just tried renaming a desktop directory (right-click -> rename) in lenny and it disappeared. what? yes. it's gone. no error messages, nothing in logs. when creating a new one with the same name i get "The item could not be renamed. The name is already used in this folder. Please use a different name"! is this heard of?! |
| 21:14.44 | silidan | Justin_: o so sid is not the latest greatest debian? |
| 21:14.45 | valdyn | reaktae: use your x terminal |
| 21:14.54 | greycat | sid is the perpetual unstable pool of packages |
| 21:15.26 | syrius | I have an imac g3 with broken cd drive and I want to install debian how do I do this? |
| 21:15.30 | silidan | so there is somethign even more bleeding edge than sid... |
| 21:15.35 | greycat | it's where packages go when the developer thinks they're ready to be tested by users -- note, TESTED, not used in production. |
| 21:15.44 | silidan | kk |
| 21:15.48 | f00bar80 | Justin_, no comment regarding this issue ???? |
| 21:15.50 | Justin_ | syrius: netboot? |
| 21:15.51 | syrius | should I download powerpc netinstall and decompress it to a usb stick? |
| 21:15.58 | valdyn | !usb install |
| 21:15.59 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 21:16.10 | Justin_ | f00bar80: what issue? |
| 21:16.10 | syrius | simple please Justin_ |
| 21:16.12 | greycat | there is also experimental, which is where packages go when the developer thinkgs they're ready to be looked at by other developers, under a microscope, with a fume hood. |
| 21:16.38 | silidan | its ok, in short the answer to my question is no |
| 21:16.45 | silidan | thanks :) |
| 21:16.55 | reaktae | valdyn: it's there, turns out that when i tried to 'locate' it, i misspelled the name, as it used some escapable chars.... when i restart gnome, is it gonna see it? can i just refresh the desktop somehow? |
| 21:16.59 | syrius | valdyn is that possible on an imac g3? |
| 21:17.05 | syrius | it has firmware not bios |
| 21:17.07 | reaktae | valdyn: never mind.... just got it! |
| 21:17.13 | reaktae | stupid me! |
| 21:17.24 | f00bar80 | Justin_, host yahoo.com -> connection timed out; no servers could be reached, ping yahoo.com -> ping: unknown host yahoo.com, telnet: could not resolve yahoo.com/telnet: Name or service not known |
| 21:17.42 | Justin_ | f00bar80: fix your router |
| 21:17.46 | greycat | f00bar80: I told you an hour ago, MANUALLY EDIT YOUR /etc/resolv.conf FILE AND THEN FIX YOUR BROKEN DHCP SERVER. |
| 21:18.05 | greycat | Probably in that order, so you can use the web to find out how to DO THINGS. |
| 21:18.30 | syrius | can I PM someone for help plz for powerpc? |
| 21:18.30 | f00bar80 | greycat, i used to enter the my ISP dns manually to my connection in windows , don't know here what should i do, i tried to modify /etc/resolv.conf with my ISP dns and reboooted , after reboot i found resolv.conf comes with the router's ip again. |
| 21:18.32 | Justin_ | syrius: does this machine currently have OS X on it? |
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| 21:18.46 | syrius | Justin_, can I PM you? |
| 21:18.48 | greycat | f00bar80: do not reboot. there is no need to restart things when you edit resolv.conf |
| 21:18.49 | Justin_ | syrius: no |
| 21:19.00 | syrius | y? |
| 21:19.09 | syrius | it makes it more easy though for me to read |
| 21:19.18 | Justin_ | get a better IRC client |
| 21:19.27 | syrius | hmm |
| 21:19.31 | syrius | I use xchat |
| 21:19.45 | greycat | When he rebooted he probably lost his changes to resolv.conf.... |
| 21:19.49 | f00bar80 | Justin_, what do you mean by fix my router, i'm connected to the internet using a win box using the same router, and as i mentioned i used to manually enter my ISP dns |
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| 21:20.06 | syrius | Justin_ it has mac os x on it |
| 21:20.13 | Justin_ | syrius: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s04.html.en#files-newworld |
| 21:20.14 | catsup_ | rocko? |
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| 21:20.17 | Justin_ | syrius: see 4.4.2 |
| 21:20.21 | syrius | it is an old version |
| 21:20.24 | greycat | f00bar80: your DHCP server is supposed to PROVIDE WORKING DNS SERVER IP ADDRESSES. The fact that you have to do it by hand is WRONG and needs to be FIXED. |
| 21:20.32 | Justin_ | syrius: and then 5.1.2.2 |
| 21:20.34 | syrius | it is the os right after ox 9 |
| 21:20.37 | catsup_ | syrius: rocko? |
| 21:20.41 | greycat | f00bar80: so do it by hand ONCE so you can use the fucking INTERNET and then FIX IT. |
| 21:20.47 | f00bar80 | greycat, i tried to browse and ping yahoo before rebooting and after modifying resolv.conf , i couldn't reach anything |
| 21:20.50 | syrius | hey catsup_ buddy |
| 21:20.53 | Justin_ | syrius: all you need to do is copy the files to the root of the drive and get into open firmware, then you can start the debian installer |
| 21:20.54 | syrius | what you been up to? |
| 21:21.07 | syrius | cool thanks Justin_ |
| 21:21.15 | greycat | f00bar80: then you didn't edit resolv.conf correctly. |
| 21:21.26 | Justin_ | though you only get one chance, because after you format the drive you can't boot again until the install successfully finishes |
| 21:21.28 | greycat | f00bar80: or you don't have a working default route (gateway) |
| 21:21.29 | syrius | Justin_ is it possible for me to update the firmware in debian once installed? |
| 21:21.40 | greycat | f00bar80: is the Debian system up right now? |
| 21:21.41 | Justin_ | syrius: why do you want to update the firmware? |
| 21:21.46 | syrius | i can't cause the cd drive is broken and I need mac os 9 installed |
| 21:21.53 | catsup_ | haha syrius man nice to see you |
| 21:22.03 | syrius | to upgrade firmware |
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| 21:22.22 | Justin_ | syrius: 'to upgrade firmware' is not a valid answer to the question 'why do you want to update the firmware?' |
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| 21:22.52 | catsup_ | Justin_: 'to upgrade firmware' was the continuation of 'I need mac os 9 installed...' |
| 21:22.55 | syrius | well I can't boot from this external cd/dvd drive if I install debian will the firmware still limit me to this? Justin_ |
| 21:23.10 | Justin_ | huh? |
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| 21:23.36 | f00bar80 | greycat, yes |
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| 21:23.46 | syrius | okay nevermind Justin_ |
| 21:23.51 | syrius | I will try it out |
| 21:23.52 | greycat | f00bar80: can you ping 4.2.2.6 from it? |
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| 21:24.11 | f00bar80 | greycat, yes |
| 21:24.52 | greycat | f00bar80: echo 'nameserver 4.2.2.6' > /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 21:25.04 | KiloBravoEight | y |
| 21:25.47 | syrius | man so simple Justin_ thanks for your help buddy |
| 21:25.52 | StuckMojo | anyone else on sid seeing OOM-killer kick in when you restart CUPS? happened during an aptitude safe-upgrade, killed off a boatload of gs processes... |
| 21:26.22 | syrius | other people suggested all these other ways that where to complicated for me to do or would be able to do with my hardware |
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| 21:27.01 | StuckMojo | hmmm |
| 21:27.07 | f00bar80 | greycat, then ? |
| 21:27.12 | jelly-home | StuckMojo: did you have lots of old pending jobs? |
| 21:27.21 | StuckMojo | simply restarting it doesn't replicate the error |
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| 21:27.26 | StuckMojo | jelly-home: not that i know of |
| 21:27.27 | greycat | f00bar80: then figure out what the fuck is wrong with your DHCP server. And don't reboot until you do. |
| 21:27.39 | StuckMojo | hard to tell what was really happening since everything froze when it ran out of ram |
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| 21:27.59 | StuckMojo | oom-killer did get things back, after killing my browser and email client along with like 30 instances of gs |
| 21:28.01 | jelly-home | StuckMojo: I don't see why cups would invoks gs unless it wanted to do some pre-print rendering |
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| 21:28.23 | f00bar80 | greycat, what is this 4.2.2.6 ???? |
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| 21:28.33 | greycat | f00bar80: it is a DNS resolver. |
| 21:28.34 | jelly-home | then again, you're running sid, you figure it out |
| 21:28.44 | StuckMojo | i did a safe-upgrade last night from console, and when i rebooted oomkiller kicked in during shutdown and killed a bunch of gs processes |
| 21:28.46 | sinizzl | hello. can someone please nmap me and post the results on some pastebin? my hostname is 84-74-27-28.dclient.hispeed.ch |
| 21:29.02 | StuckMojo | oho! |
| 21:29.04 | syrius | Justin_ when I tried to upgrade to mac os x to tiger it said I had to upgrade the firmware would I have similar problems like this with debian once installed? |
| 21:29.06 | valdyn | sinizzl: theres plenty free webservices - google |
| 21:29.07 | StuckMojo | root 26472 0.0 0.1 4916 1252 ? S 15:26 0:00 usb:/dev/usb/lp0 4 jon (stdin) 1 document-name=4a29500d9bf15 media=Letter finishings=3 number-up=1 job-uuid=urn:uuid:8e375ea6-6ca7-3266-75ea-8cd2255bf279 job-originating-host-name=localhost |
| 21:29.11 | StuckMojo | wtf? |
| 21:29.17 | sinizzl | valdyn: afaik those r crap |
| 21:29.18 | StuckMojo | i don't even have a printer hooked up, heh |
| 21:29.25 | valdyn | sinizzl: you know wrong |
| 21:29.29 | greycat | f00bar80: specifically, the IPv4 address of a public DNS resolver in dotted-quad (decimal) notation. |
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| 21:29.40 | jelly-home | StuckMojo: "lpstat" |
| 21:29.51 | jelly-home | StuckMojo: and probably lprm. :-) |
| 21:29.54 | acu | hey guys did anyone tried squeeze daily ? the AMD64 does not get into X at all |
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| 21:30.01 | StuckMojo | jelly-home: yeah there's a job there |
| 21:30.12 | jelly-home | kill it with prejudice |
| 21:30.25 | StuckMojo | gonna poke into /var/spool and see what it is |
| 21:30.28 | greycat | Or with a signal. Signals generally work better than prejudice. |
| 21:30.29 | StuckMojo | it's from June 5th, heh |
| 21:30.31 | valdyn | acu: daily changes daily, what do you expect? |
| 21:30.48 | jelly-home | greycat: with a lprm in this case |
| 21:30.57 | greycat | oh, sorry, missed the context. |
| 21:31.07 | acu | LOL - valdyn - I tried two days version - OK I will go for the last weekly one - that should work then |
| 21:31.17 | valdyn | acu: you should go for lenny netinstall |
| 21:31.35 | acu | valdyn: then upgrade ? |
| 21:31.42 | valdyn | acu: yea |
| 21:32.01 | jelly-home | StuckMojo: it's an infinitely detailed Mandelbrot test page! |
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| 21:32.30 | acu | is not sucky ? - I mean many of the settings will be kept from old - or there is an update which cleans everything |
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| 21:32.52 | greycat | acu: you have nothing better to do with your time? |
| 21:33.17 | acu | greycat: quite the opposite - what is your solution for me ? |
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| 21:33.38 | greycat | stop tracking testing daily builds? stop reinstalling things? |
| 21:34.07 | acu | I want a squeeze as clean as possible |
| 21:34.16 | greycat | then wait until it's released |
| 21:34.28 | acu | greycat: when is that ? |
| 21:34.32 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 21:34.34 | greycat | some time next year |
| 21:34.39 | acu | LOL |
| 21:34.44 | greycat | !stable |
| 21:34.45 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 21:35.54 | jelly-home | !squeeze pool 1 |
| 21:35.55 | dpkg | ! jelly=2010-09-29 dpalacio=2010-08-03 cydork=2010-07-10 CutMeOwnThroat=2010-06-15 enouf=2010-04-01 valdyn=2010-10-30 themill=2010-05-30 valdyn=2010-06-15 rohan=2010-12-06 |
| 21:36.08 | f00bar80 | greycat, some more details ????? please |
| 21:36.27 | Wabi | catsup_, help me, read my xorg log |
| 21:36.40 | jelly-home | acu: sounds like it might be released between April and December 2010. Or not. |
| 21:36.46 | jhutchins | 000000000000p---- |
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| 21:37.12 | acu | greycat: what is the stage for squeeze ? - I know about lenny - I have it installed - but there are many features in squeeze which I need and like - and since I am going to spend few extra neurons - why not spending them on long term - again - is anyway to find out how far is the squeeze - the Debian News used to be so usefull - now the Debian.org seems like the lights are on but nobody is home |
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| 21:37.26 | greycat | f00bar80: I can't give you any more detailed explanation of what 4.2.2.6 is than I just did. |
| 21:37.39 | greycat | I could explain what "dotted quad" means, but seriously, come on. |
| 21:37.54 | greycat | squeeze is "testing" right now. |
| 21:37.55 | jhutchins | Unlikw other distros, Debian does not release just because an arbitrary date has arrived. |
| 21:38.01 | greycat | jhutchins: yet. |
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| 21:38.25 | jhutchins | greycat: Fingers crossed. |
| 21:38.45 | greycat | It should be quite interesting, two years from now, when the first deadline arrives. |
| 21:39.02 | jelly-home | eh, a freeze deadline, who cares! |
| 21:39.03 | jhutchins | last three Mandriva releases won't run on my hardware, making everything currently supported unusable. |
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| 21:39.46 | jelly-home | jhutchins: don't they have someone like kmuto to build installer images with updated kernels? |
| 21:39.58 | acu | Debian will never be released in "time" there is too much a crosscultural heterogeneity - and having it released based on an arbitrary date - will diminish its consistency in reliability |
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| 21:40.36 | greycat | http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 |
| 21:40.41 | acu | saying that - It would have been great if the Debian News or other methods would keep everyone informed with regard to the stage |
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| 21:41.01 | jelly-home | I wonder if Ubuntu would regain some of the perceived instability teritory if it were based on testing instead of sid |
| 21:41.24 | greycat | testing has always been worse than sid. |
| 21:41.46 | greycat | if something's broken in sid, it can get fixed in a few hours, if you're lucky. if something is broken or missing in testing, it usually takes MONTHS. |
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| 21:42.04 | jelly-home | I haven't had a libc6 or perl-style barfs in testing... erm, ever |
| 21:42.23 | greycat | granted, testing misses all the exciting "can't boot" bugs. |
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| 21:48.52 | acu | ? |
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| 21:56.40 | djveer | man... I can't even fathom what kind of infrastructure/setup a site like Facebook must have. |
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| 21:56.57 | adb | acu, pong |
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| 21:57.01 | greycat | it's powered by the tears of Windows users |
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| 21:57.13 | djveer | haha |
| 21:57.24 | djveer | well then... it must be QUITE powerful. |
| 21:58.09 | jhutchins | jelly-home: There are some serious issues with laptop Intel 855GM chipsets and the new xorg drivers. |
| 21:58.41 | jhutchins | Not sure what else is wrong with it though, frequent freezes, won't finish shutting down for a reboot, etc. |
| 21:59.02 | jhutchins | Some of the issues overlap with kubuntu, but they're more serious. |
| 21:59.09 | jhutchins | Sry, O.T. |
| 21:59.50 | jhutchins | jelly-home: To answer your question though, no, few distros update their installers. |
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| 22:00.02 | jhutchins | Once it's released it's released, no updates until next release. |
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| 22:01.02 | elliot98 | hello all! |
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| 22:01.31 | elliot98 | does anyone know how to change the flash plugin for firefox to save it files to a different directory? |
| 22:01.51 | TrueDD | Howdy |
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| 22:02.38 | elliot98 | yo |
| 22:02.50 | jelly-home | jhutchins: oh, you have problems with kernel/drivers being too _new_! |
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| 22:03.31 | acu | adb |
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| 22:03.47 | acu | adb are you around |
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| 22:04.37 | acu | adb I opened a private |
| 22:04.45 | jelly-home | eww |
| 22:05.03 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Not that simple, but that's one of them. |
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| 22:05.19 | jhutchins | jelly-home: They distributed the i810 driver, but didn't bother to rebuild it. |
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| 22:05.47 | jelly-home | jhutchins: #debian-offtopic if you wish to rant further ;-) |
| 22:05.56 | jhutchins | tnx, sry. |
| 22:06.14 | jelly-home | np |
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| 22:20.41 | theresa | how do I remove residual config of removed packages from command line? |
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| 22:21.37 | UrsoBranco | theresa: dpkg --list | egrep ^rc |
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| 22:22.05 | UrsoBranco | theresa: this command shows you whether packages are still on your system |
| 22:22.49 | UrsoBranco | theresa: for example, you have emacs21 as a remove candidate (rc) on your system and want to remove it completely |
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| 22:23.09 | UrsoBranco | theresa: then you should do: dpkg --purge emacs21 |
| 22:23.45 | UrsoBranco | theresa: or, if you want to do this for all the packages are remove candidate on your system, just type: |
| 22:24.01 | xyan | dpkg -l|grep ^rc |
| 22:24.02 | dpkg | xyan: wish i knew |
| 22:24.07 | xyan | oops |
| 22:24.23 | UrsoBranco | theresa: dpkg --list | egrep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg --purge |
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| 22:37.22 | harovali | is there a way to select repositories in an install debian system , as there is during installation ? how ? |
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| 22:40.36 | keith4 | harovali: just edit sources.list |
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| 22:41.31 | poppy_bsd | how important is it to write random data to a disk before encrypting? |
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| 22:42.49 | JPT | probably very important |
| 22:43.07 | JPT | if your disk is plain like sand after some storm... |
| 22:43.20 | JPT | then it will be easier to get an idea of the structure |
| 22:43.47 | poppy_bsd | JPT: yeah |
| 22:44.02 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: depends on what you want to hide |
| 22:44.14 | poppy_bsd | valdyn: porn and ganja |
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| 22:44.17 | JPT | and you might want to overwrite raw data that was still on it |
| 22:44.26 | Corndawg | on that topic how important is it to write zeros after using "shred -u" |
| 22:44.32 | Corndawg | why does it matter rather |
| 22:44.37 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: if you dont need to hide that you are storing anything |
| 22:44.49 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: then overwriting the whole disk isnt very important |
| 22:44.58 | poppy_bsd | valdyn: what do you mean? |
| 22:45.15 | poppy_bsd | if i don't need to hide the FACT that there are files on it? |
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| 22:45.33 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: then overwriting the whole disk becomes less significant |
| 22:45.34 | JPT | encrpytion can protect contents. overwriting with random stuff hides the encrypted stuff in a bunch of trash |
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| 22:46.40 | poppy_bsd | JPT: valdyn: this problem then: i already have a fat raided storage that i don't want to redo |
| 22:46.55 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: or if you arent suspect to planning to blowing up a skyskrape no one would have the resources to do serious decryption efforts |
| 22:46.59 | poppy_bsd | is it ok to just fill it with a _file_ containing rand? |
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| 22:47.08 | poppy_bsd | then delete it and go |
| 22:47.32 | JPT | the idea of overwriting with random stuff is to hide the fact that the hdd contains data |
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| 22:47.37 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: cryptologists deal in probability |
| 22:47.42 | JPT | so you won't need it if you're using raid1 or something |
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| 22:48.11 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: thats very hard to satisfy |
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| 22:48.27 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: but that doesnt mean that your porn collection can by decrypted in the real world |
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| 22:49.07 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: much easier to torture you to give up the key than spending the insane effort required to decrypt |
| 22:50.34 | poppy_bsd | JPT: you're saying that a raid volume doesn't need random? |
| 22:50.45 | poppy_bsd | i use raid5 btw |
| 22:50.52 | JPT | well... if you are using raid1, both devices will contain identical trash |
| 22:51.02 | JPT | in that case, it is obvious that there is special data on them |
| 22:51.23 | JPT | i don't exactly know raid5, but it will be similar there, too |
| 22:51.35 | valdyn | he can raid two crypted devices also |
| 22:51.42 | dannyboy1121x | hello .. can someone help with some kernel 'stuuf' ? |
| 22:51.48 | dannyboy1121x | *stuff |
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| 22:51.54 | valdyn | instead of crypting the device, but that could be twice the cpu overhead |
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| 22:52.10 | valdyn | !tell dannyboy1121x -about ask |
| 22:52.15 | JPT | hmm...right |
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| 22:52.31 | JPT | i did not think about that... |
| 22:53.14 | poppy_bsd | i sure won't crypt 5 devices though |
| 22:53.33 | poppy_bsd | so maybe i shouldn't be too worried.. it would take days anyway to redo the whole setup with random data |
| 22:53.46 | poppy_bsd | so i really wanna know if it's worth it before i go through all that |
| 22:53.49 | JPT | it all depends on the importance of your data ;) |
| 22:53.57 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: raid5 has the same issue as raid1 in that aspect |
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| 22:54.23 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: you dont need random data really in my opinion |
| 22:54.43 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: you need data that is indistinguishible from the data you are going to store |
| 22:55.07 | dannyboy1121x | Hello, I'm trying to install some USB related software to a debian Xen VM (USB over IP related) but it looks like I'm missing some aspects. It appears that I need /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/core/hcd.h and also hub.h ... can someone point me in the right direction here please? |
| 22:55.19 | poppy_bsd | valdyn: what about filling the volume with a random file then? |
| 22:55.24 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: so instead of using the slow /dev/random you could just fill the disks with movies fed thru gpg |
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| 22:55.48 | dannyboy1121x | i.e. Can I just install these components or is it more complicated than that |
| 22:55.52 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: why do you need that? |
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| 22:56.05 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: those are header files for the kernel's source code |
| 22:56.12 | dannyboy1121x | For a USB over IP client .. |
| 22:56.22 | poppy_bsd | valdyn: haha i like that idea! |
| 22:56.26 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: are you compiling a kernel module? |
| 22:56.33 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: thats extremely vague |
| 22:56.40 | harovali | keith4: isn't there a menu like way, as during the cd installation ? |
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| 22:56.50 | dannyboy1121x | Titan: I wasn't planning on recompiling the K .. can I just insert these bits? :) |
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| 22:57.03 | poppy_bsd | but does it suffice to just write it as a file in the existing filesystem? or do i need to redo the whole raid? |
| 22:57.17 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: I can't help you at all unless I have an actual understanding for why you need the header files |
| 22:57.26 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: youre not trying to hide the fact that its a raid, right? |
| 22:57.26 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: what error is telling you that you need it? what guide? |
| 22:57.33 | poppy_bsd | valdyn: no |
| 22:57.47 | dannyboy1121x | Titan: *** Installing IncentivesPro USB Server + USB Client v.2.0.8 |
| 22:57.47 | dannyboy1121x | !!! Required file /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/core/hcd.h is missing. Installer c annot continue. |
| 22:57.47 | dannyboy1121x | !!! This error means that you don't have full kernel sources installed. |
| 22:57.47 | dannyboy1121x | !!! Some systems are shipped with stripped kernel sources, but USB server |
| 22:57.47 | dannyboy1121x | !!! kernel module requires at least the following two files to be present |
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| 22:57.48 | dpkg | dannyboy1121x: that's too long |
| 22:57.49 | dpkg | dannyboy1121x: okay |
| 22:58.04 | valdyn | poppy_bsd: so just fill your /dev/mdX with stuff piped thru proper crypting program, like gpg |
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| 22:58.17 | jelly-home | dpkg: forget !!! Required file /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/core/hcd.h |
| 22:58.17 | dpkg | jelly-home: i didn't have anything called '!!! required file /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/core/hcd.h' to forget |
| 22:58.28 | dannyboy1121x | Titan: not sure if you got all that before I got kicked |
| 22:58.46 | jelly-home | dannyboy1121x: uname -r? |
| 22:58.46 | valdyn | dannyboy1121x: install your kernel sources and *also* configure them |
| 22:59.10 | dannyboy1121x | jelly: 2.6.18.8.xs5.5.0.13.442 |
| 22:59.23 | dannyboy1121x | It's a Xenserver Debian Lenny VM |
| 22:59.48 | jelly-home | dannyboy1121x: ask your ISP for linux headers for that kernel. |
| 22:59.48 | \amethyst | dannyboy1121x: you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then tell the installer the source dir is /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) instead of /usr/src/linux |
| 22:59.49 | jelly-home | s/ISP/hosting provider/ |
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| 23:00.02 | \amethyst | dannyboy1121x: where $(uname -r) is your exact kernel version, assuming you're using a Debian kernel |
| 23:00.05 | valdyn | this file is in linux-headers packages? i would not think so |
| 23:00.08 | \amethyst | dannyboy1121x: oh |
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| 23:00.58 | \amethyst | dannyboy1121x: then as jelly-home says... you'll need the headers and build files for that exact kernel version |
| 23:00.58 | jelly-home | valdyn: oh, not in include/... oh well |
| 23:01.00 | Titan8990 | dannyboy1121x: or you can create a symlink from the headers to /usr/src/linux instead of specifying the path to the installer |
| 23:01.24 | Titan8990 | valdyn: its a headers file hehe |
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| 23:01.37 | valdyn | Titan8990: thats not enough to be in linux-headers |
| 23:01.57 | valdyn | Titan8990: the software hes using isnt following the rules... |
| 23:02.08 | Titan8990 | valdyn: nor is it open source |
| 23:02.13 | valdyn | heck its not even looking up the path correctly |
| 23:02.20 | jelly-home | Titan8990: we don't know if it's open source or not |
| 23:02.20 | \amethyst | oh |
| 23:02.23 | \amethyst | I see |
| 23:02.29 | valdyn | by this year i would have though no idiots would do this crap anymore |
| 23:03.15 | dannyboy1121x | I think I'll read up about kernel sources before I launch an assault on my server ;) Many thanks for these pointers |
| 23:03.23 | valdyn | heck its probably not even legal if this is not free software |
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| 23:03.43 | centHOGG | hi, anybody video capture with linux? |
| 23:03.45 | Titan8990 | jelly-home: yes... we do |
| 23:04.05 | Titan8990 | jelly-home: i downloaded the package and looked at the LICENSE file |
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| 23:04.22 | Titan8990 | jelly-home: but just by looking at the website you get the idea that its proprietary |
| 23:04.56 | Titan8990 | which is actually a EULA |
| 23:05.52 | harovali | how do I provide the public keys that apt-get update is asking for ? |
| 23:06.20 | Titan8990 | harovali: depends on which keys it needs |
| 23:06.58 | Titan8990 | harovali: debian-archive-keyring package for the main repositories |
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| 23:07.05 | jelly-home | Titan8990: ah, carry on then. gpl-violations is right that way ---> |
| 23:07.30 | harovali | Titan8990: thanks, i'll try |
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| 23:09.01 | harovali | Titan8990: is that one a command ? or somthing I have to put somewhere ? |
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| 23:09.51 | TTimo | hello .. I'm trying to find how to have grub boot an experimental entry only once, and boot a different one on reboot if that failed .. I knew how to do this with grub 1, but having difficulty finding the equivalent for grub 2 |
| 23:10.16 | centHOGG | newest handbrake and latest debian not loading right |
| 23:11.08 | Titan8990 | harovali: its a package you install, which repo is saying you don't have a key for? |
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| 23:24.20 | rgr | whats the easiest way (preferebly gnome applet) to monitor the cpu load on a remote debian machine? |
| 23:25.03 | TTimo | you mean long term graphs type of thing ? |
| 23:25.15 | TTimo | or just logging on 'what's going on with this server |
| 23:25.26 | Titan8990 | rgr: phpsysinfo? |
| 23:25.27 | rgr | just a cpu load |
| 23:25.33 | TTimo | I use htop |
| 23:25.42 | rgr | sounds like a web page |
| 23:25.46 | TTimo | or just top would do I suppose |
| 23:25.51 | Titan8990 | rgr: it is a web page |
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| 23:27.34 | syrius | Justin_ so the root of the drive on mac is / right? |
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| 23:38.06 | limpio | hi all, how do i eliminate the blue menu list at boot time? |
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| 23:38.44 | limpio | blue box with the kernels versions |
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| 23:39.01 | centHOGG | limpio: put this in menu.lst.... hiddenmenu |
| 23:39.17 | limpio | ok, where at? |
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| 23:39.42 | centHOGG | oh at the first line is fine |
| 23:39.52 | limpio | thank you |
| 23:39.53 | centHOGG | but remember that you are blocking it out |
| 23:40.14 | centHOGG | you might set/check the default is correctly pointing to the boot os |
| 23:42.16 | limpio | centHOGG, so if i want it back just comment it? |
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| 23:42.23 | centHOGG | yeah |
| 23:42.30 | limpio | thx |
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| 23:42.31 | centHOGG | i block mine out |
| 23:42.40 | centHOGG | quick boot |
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| 23:44.00 | centHOGG | latest handbrake and latest debian anyone? |
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| 23:49.55 | \amethyst | except with lines that actually join? |
| 23:49.58 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 23:51.17 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys .... i cant install the .deb packages by double click .... i have to get it by command line |
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| 23:52.59 | jetscreamer | so dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 23:53.00 | jeward | Hi, I installed debian on my old thinkpad last night (via wireless network) and now the wireless stopped working? |
| 23:53.05 | jetscreamer | as root |
| 23:53.27 | cobra-the-joker | jetscreamer , i want to make it from the debian package manager ...what should i install ? |
| 23:53.43 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 23:53.50 | jetscreamer | make what |
| 23:54.22 | cobra-the-joker | there is a program ... i dont remember its name actually ...that installs the programs with a double click |
| 23:54.23 | jetscreamer | if you want a gui, try synaptic i guess |
| 23:54.41 | jeward | Oh, nevermind, it's working again! |
| 23:57.20 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search package manager maybe |
| 23:57.38 | jetscreamer | not sure if it takes spaces like that though |