| 00:00.11 | Onyx | denysonique: from source? how do i do that? |
| 00:00.11 | abrotman | perlsyntax: do you have any http sources in that file? |
| 00:00.15 | fisxoj | already done, even that doesn't seem to help anymore... |
| 00:00.28 | abrotman | fisxoj: clean up old logs? |
| 00:00.34 | denysonique | Onyx: You need to google about creating deb packages. |
| 00:00.35 | themill | fisxoj: any unused kernels installed? Crap in /tmp? |
| 00:00.36 | perlsyntax | maybe that the prob |
| 00:00.44 | denysonique | Onyx: but if you want you can install it from source. |
| 00:00.44 | perlsyntax | i have to re install it then |
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| 00:00.52 | abrotman | perlsyntax: why? |
| 00:00.57 | fisxoj | abrotman: I'll go after old logs, but, that might just be a temporary solution |
| 00:00.59 | denysonique | Onyx: what do you want to install? |
| 00:01.01 | abrotman | Onyx: do you have access to the source package? |
| 00:01.08 | abrotman | fisxoj: so find the real problem |
| 00:01.25 | Onyx | denysonique: "utube ripper"; abrotman: yes |
| 00:01.30 | perlsyntax | i did do a network install |
| 00:01.33 | fisxoj | abrotman: the real problem, I think, is that my packages don't all really fit on the / partition the installer gave me |
| 00:01.47 | fisxoj | so, I probably need to resize/merge things, but, I'm a bit afraid of doing so |
| 00:01.52 | perlsyntax | i thionk i made a mistake |
| 00:01.55 | abrotman | Onyx: /msg dpkg source |
| 00:01.55 | perlsyntax | think |
| 00:01.58 | abrotman | perlsyntax: i doubt it |
| 00:02.14 | themill | perlsyntax: unlikely to be one that requires a reinstall |
| 00:02.17 | abrotman | perlsyntax: if you'd answer my questions .. maybe we could help |
| 00:02.22 | denysonique | Onyx: or just download and compile it. |
| 00:02.35 | abrotman | denysonique: why? |
| 00:02.47 | fisxoj | deleting things doesn't seem to actually free up space anymore... why would that be? |
| 00:02.56 | abrotman | sync ? |
| 00:03.06 | perlsyntax | i see |
| 00:03.16 | fisxoj | abrotman: tried it a few times |
| 00:03.31 | Kovensky | I'm getting "/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32", using nvidia drivers |
| 00:03.34 | abrotman | fisxoj: paste your output from 'df -h' |
| 00:03.43 | themill | fisxoj: did you delete any log files? did you restart the daemon after doing so? |
| 00:03.51 | denysonique | Kovensky: change the depth to 24 |
| 00:04.08 | fisxoj | themill: I did a rm *gz in /var/log, got rid of all the archives |
| 00:04.15 | abrotman | fisxoj: paste your output from 'df -h' |
| 00:04.20 | Kovensky | denysonique: DefaultDepth 16 |
| 00:04.23 | Kovensky | denysonique: that is on my xorg.conf D: |
| 00:04.34 | Kovensky | I'll try 24 |
| 00:04.48 | fisxoj | http://pastebin.com/m203eaf94 |
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| 00:05.20 | abrotman | overflow ? |
| 00:05.34 | abrotman | /tmp/ is 1MB ? |
| 00:05.40 | Kovensky | denysonique: yup, now it worked |
| 00:05.50 | Kovensky | gonna test mplayer performance with compiz now... |
| 00:06.02 | fisxoj | abrotman: I have no idea, I haven't had to play with this before... |
| 00:06.30 | Kovensky | D: |
| 00:06.35 | Kovensky | back to compizless ;p |
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| 00:07.19 | Onyx | abrotman: thanks a bunch |
| 00:07.37 | abrotman | fisxoj: what's the error you're getting? |
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| 00:07.46 | abrotman | fisxoj: du -sh /var/log/ |
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| 00:08.02 | fisxoj | E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device) (from synaptic) |
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| 00:08.19 | fisxoj | and I can't print, because there's no room to convert things to postscript |
| 00:08.35 | abrotman | fisxoj: AFAICT .. you have no /tmp/ |
| 00:08.41 | abrotman | fisxoj: or a really small one |
| 00:08.54 | abrotman | fisxoj: how much space is /var/log/ taking ? |
| 00:08.56 | fisxoj | because there's not space left on it's partition, I imagine |
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| 00:10.03 | themill | abrotman: /etc/init.d/mountoverflowtmp |
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| 00:10.16 | abrotman | themill: never noticed it |
| 00:10.34 | themill | nor had I until now |
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| 00:10.44 | fisxoj | abrotman: 5.5MB |
| 00:11.15 | abrotman | fisxoj: do you have any large packages you can remove? |
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| 00:11.36 | fisxoj | I've been removing large packages for the last two days, I had 300MB free yesterday, it just seems to disappear |
| 00:12.05 | abrotman | fisxoj: ls /var/ | xargs du -sh |
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| 00:12.44 | abrotman | fisxoj: it'll probably take awhile |
| 00:12.52 | themill | cd /var first |
| 00:13.00 | fisxoj | already returned... lots of errors... |
| 00:13.02 | fisxoj | oh |
| 00:13.05 | b-04 | abrotman, i got other error now |
| 00:13.13 | abrotman | errors ? |
| 00:13.21 | fisxoj | now that i'm in /var it's working |
| 00:13.28 | abrotman | doh .. sorry |
| 00:13.28 | themill | abrotman: tias :) |
| 00:13.37 | abrotman | b-04: error for what? |
| 00:13.47 | b-04 | i added repositories of etchy |
| 00:13.55 | b-04 | and, i install with apt-get install e17 |
| 00:13.56 | b-04 | and.. |
| 00:13.58 | b-04 | /var/cache/apt/archives/e17_cvs20060518_i386.deb |
| 00:13.58 | b-04 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 00:14.00 | fisxoj | http://pastebin.com/m5deb95b7 |
| 00:14.15 | themill | presumes etchy is a frankenbuntu creation |
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| 00:14.28 | denysonique | b-04: view the log. |
| 00:14.40 | simonrvn | not first time i've seen call etch etchy |
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| 00:14.47 | simonrvn | seen someone |
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| 00:15.50 | abrotman | simonrvn: just the other day |
| 00:16.01 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:16.06 | b-04 | denysonique, the log says: |
| 00:16.13 | abrotman | fisxoj: dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^ii .. how many are installed ? |
| 00:16.15 | b-04 | 2008-10-15 17:13:18 install e17 <ninguna> cvs20060518 |
| 00:16.15 | b-04 | 2008-10-15 17:13:18 status half-installed e17 cvs20060518 |
| 00:16.15 | b-04 | 2008-10-15 17:13:18 status not-installed e17 <ninguna> |
| 00:16.18 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:16.18 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 00:17.08 | fisxoj | abrotman: Two kernels and some two meta-packages |
| 00:17.21 | abrotman | fisxoj: are you using both kernels ? |
| 00:17.23 | fisxoj | I keep an old kernel around in case the one that updates gets screwed up |
| 00:17.30 | I_Lold_You_lold | :/ |
| 00:17.34 | I_Lold_You_lold | Bored/ |
| 00:17.38 | I_Lold_You_lold | *Bored. |
| 00:17.41 | abrotman | I_Lold_You_lold: try #defocus |
| 00:17.47 | I_Lold_You_lold | lolololok |
| 00:17.59 | I_Lold_You_lold | :/ |
| 00:18.09 | I_Lold_You_lold | Sounds like a ircop chan. |
| 00:18.11 | I_Lold_You_lold | anyway |
| 00:18.15 | I_Lold_You_lold | back to internetz |
| 00:18.16 | I_Lold_You_lold | bai |
| 00:18.18 | fisxoj | and that's less than 100MB, and my / partition is 6.5GB |
| 00:18.32 | themill | dpkg: tell fisxoj about deborphan |
| 00:18.44 | themill | (although my money is on a runaway log file) |
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| 00:18.55 | abrotman | i'm trying to free up enough space to remove other packages :) |
| 00:19.03 | abrotman | themill: did you see his paste? |
| 00:19.11 | abrotman | /var/log/ was 6MB |
| 00:19.18 | fisxoj | themill: that would be nice, but, I can't run any incarnation of apt right now |
| 00:19.26 | fisxoj | E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device) |
| 00:19.28 | themill | yeah.... cozy. |
| 00:19.43 | abrotman | fisxoj: you still can't `dpkg -P linux-image-<notusedanymore>' ? |
| 00:20.01 | beardy | abrotman: 6MB? |
| 00:20.13 | fisxoj | abrotman: I could, but I really don't think that would fix anything, I've removed hundreds of MB of packages in the last two days |
| 00:20.15 | abrotman | 5.7M log |
| 00:20.18 | abrotman | from his paste |
| 00:20.24 | beardy | And that is.. much? |
| 00:20.38 | simonrvn | restarted daemons with logs open? |
| 00:20.48 | themill | abrotman: does that count log file that are unlinked but still with the fd open? |
| 00:20.55 | abrotman | fisxoj: okay .. then `cd / ; ls | xargs du -sh' |
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| 00:21.07 | abrotman | themill: no idea |
| 00:21.14 | beardy | abrotman: 33MB here.. |
| 00:21.14 | simonrvn | what he said |
| 00:21.22 | abrotman | fisxoj: his paste .. not yours! |
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| 00:22.14 | simonrvn | 847M /var/log |
| 00:22.20 | simonrvn | grins |
| 00:22.25 | fisxoj | removed the kernel |
| 00:22.38 | fisxoj | dpkg works, at least |
| 00:22.38 | dpkg | fisxoj: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:22.42 | abrotman | or not :) |
| 00:22.58 | beardy | !win simonrvn |
| 00:22.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, simonrvn! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 00:23.07 | abrotman | isn't that more of a !lose ? |
| 00:23.19 | beardy | Nice with logs. |
| 00:23.26 | fisxoj | abrotman: I'm sorry, I need to go, thanks so much for trying to help, and I'll be back later |
| 00:23.37 | abrotman | fisxoj: okay |
| 00:23.38 | beardy | Shows it's been up for a bit too, his box. |
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| 00:24.00 | simonrvn | too many apache logs |
| 00:24.02 | abrotman | themill: he said he only removed the .gz logs anyways |
| 00:24.12 | themill | abrotman: true. |
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| 00:29.26 | b-04 | abrotman, |
| 00:29.27 | b-04 | http://pastebin.com/d7a826bcf |
| 00:30.04 | abrotman | b-04: maybe you should uninstall the old enlightenment packge first |
| 00:30.15 | b-04 | i try |
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| 00:32.29 | b-04 | abrotman, thanks... |
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| 00:32.32 | b-04 | really nice |
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| 00:32.43 | torrr | am I supposed to have group disk? |
| 00:32.45 | b-04 | loves abrotman |
| 00:33.20 | abrotman | $ getent group | grep disk |
| 00:33.21 | abrotman | disk:x:6: |
| 00:33.36 | nxmehta | is there a program that i can use to monitor disk load in realtime? bytes transfered, io requests, etc.? |
| 00:34.00 | torrr | abrotman, I don't have it |
| 00:34.23 | b-04 | when i go to tty terminal with crtl alt f1, i can back to x mode with a command? |
| 00:34.28 | abrotman | nxmehta: iostat .. htop .. |
| 00:34.30 | abrotman | maybe |
| 00:34.38 | abrotman | b-04: ctrl-alt-f |
| 00:34.40 | abrotman | f7 |
| 00:34.50 | b-04 | thanks.. i love abrotman (L) |
| 00:35.47 | b-04 | i go to try e17, back now |
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| 00:36.18 | Pavlz | hello |
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| 00:36.43 | torrr | abrotman, is 6 the standard gid for this group? |
| 00:36.45 | Pavlz | i would like to know if there is a software to umount the frames of a dvd |
| 00:37.00 | abrotman | torrr: that's just on this box .. i can only guess |
| 00:37.12 | Pavlz | and to take only those one which interest me |
| 00:37.46 | torrr | abrotman, let see |
| 00:38.02 | torrr | can anyone run: getent group | grep disk and message me the result? |
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| 00:39.46 | perlsyntax | the prob was i didn't have my apt-get setup. |
| 00:39.59 | torrr | well I'll add it with 6 wouldn't hurt if abrotman has it this way, either it is this way or everyone is different so no difference |
| 00:40.09 | abrotman | perlsyntax: i was trying to tell you that .. but you wouldn't answer my question |
| 00:40.10 | perlsyntax | :O |
| 00:40.38 | perlsyntax | how would i do that? |
| 00:40.49 | abrotman | answer my question ? |
| 00:40.56 | perlsyntax | ok |
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| 00:41.22 | perlsyntax | ? |
| 00:42.07 | perlsyntax | i think the debian-installer is easyer. |
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| 00:42.34 | perlsyntax | abrotman, how would i do that? |
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| 00:42.46 | abrotman | perlsyntax: how would you do what? answer my question? |
| 00:42.57 | b-04 | abrotman, thanks, im in e17 now :D |
| 00:43.02 | abrotman | sorry |
| 00:43.04 | perlsyntax | how would i setup my apt-get? |
| 00:43.11 | torrr | how do I delete a raid array created by mdadm? |
| 00:43.19 | Bladesman | Anyone manage to connect exim4 up with gmail and send an email? |
| 00:43.27 | abrotman | perlsyntax: i asked you a question like an hour ago .. and you still haven't answered |
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| 00:43.39 | perlsyntax | i ask you |
| 00:43.56 | abrotman | perlsyntax: i asked you a question like an hour ago .. and you still haven't answered |
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| 00:44.13 | perlsyntax | i give up! |
| 00:44.18 | Bladesman | What was the question? |
| 00:46.09 | Bladesman | dpkg-reconfigure apt-get? |
| 00:46.13 | abrotman | no |
| 00:46.23 | Bladesman | debconf? |
| 00:46.47 | torrr | if I dd a small partition into a bigger one do I need to do something afterward for the remaining space? |
| 00:47.32 | Bladesman | torrr: Only if you want to or plan to use the space. |
| 00:47.48 | torrr | I want |
| 00:48.18 | Bladesman | parted is the way to go, I guess. |
| 00:48.40 | torrr | instead of dd, or on top of it? |
| 00:48.51 | Bladesman | Dunno how safe your data will be, tho. Back it up. |
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| 00:49.20 | torrr | is |
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| 00:49.49 | torrr | dd if=/dev/sdd1 of=/dev/md0 |
| 00:50.05 | torrr | the right syntax to copy sdd1 to md0? |
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| 00:52.05 | Bladesman | Could try it and find out...long as md is equal or larger. |
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| 00:53.45 | b-04 | now i use e17 |
| 00:53.50 | b-04 | recent installed |
| 00:53.58 | Bladesman | md? Dunno what that is, even. |
| 00:54.00 | b-04 | not have a program files menu |
| 00:54.15 | b-04 | where are the list of the programs installeds to add icons in e17? |
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| 00:54.38 | abrotman | b-04: ask the e17 people ? |
| 00:54.53 | abrotman | b-04: you're not using debian e17 packages .. you'll have to ask them |
| 00:55.07 | b-04 | sorry |
| 00:55.17 | b-04 | yo are so sexy |
| 00:55.23 | b-04 | you* |
| 00:55.24 | Bladesman | lol |
| 00:57.11 | Bladesman | As the GUI gets smarter, the users seem to get more ignorant. Linux becomes Windows. The Fisher-Price interface for everyone. |
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| 00:58.42 | Kovensky | [ 5969.157603] NVRM: not using NVAGP, kernel was compiled with GART_IOMMU support!! |
| 00:58.45 | Kovensky | is that important? |
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| 01:01.32 | bolt | trying to create my raid array with "mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing" I get "md: couldn't update array info. -22". What can I do? |
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| 01:05.16 | bolt | nevermind |
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| 01:14.32 | Kovensky | repeats |
| 01:14.45 | Kovensky | is "NVRM: not using NVAGP, kernel was compiled with GART_IOMMU support!!" a problem? will I have to build my own kernel? |
| 01:16.02 | abrotman | maybe you sohuld ask #nvidia |
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| 01:29.40 | b-04 | abrotman, you there?:$ |
| 01:30.12 | abrotman | you didn't ask a question |
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| 01:30.31 | torrr | dd if=/dev/sdd1 of=/dev/md0 |
| 01:30.49 | torrr | is it the right syntax for copy from source sdd1? |
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| 01:31.04 | tnnc | does anyone know if there is a channel for everydns or if someone maybe can answer a ? about webhop set up there |
| 01:31.05 | torrr | (I just need to triple check) |
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| 01:33.42 | keith80403 | What's the aptitude command to check whether one particular package has been updated (FWIW, I'm running Unstable.) ? |
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| 01:41.21 | abrotman | keith80403: look in the aptitude log ? |
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| 01:42.03 | keith80403 | abrotman, OK, I'll check that - thought there might be a command line option with a Yes/No answer..........thanks |
| 01:42.14 | abrotman | has been or will be? |
| 01:43.51 | xBbob | Hi... is there a list of a packages for minimal netinstall ? |
| 01:45.13 | xBbob | i would like to install with debootstrap and schroot a very basic system so i can build my packages from src |
| 01:45.13 | abrotman | the ones on the netinst CD are enough for a base system |
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| 01:45.51 | keith80403 | abrotman, I thought there was a way with the current aptitude to check whether a particular file had updates. |
| 01:45.59 | McGyver | Hi people, anyone knows a good channel in Squid topic? |
| 01:46.12 | abrotman | McGyver: #squid ? |
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| 01:51.24 | perlsyntax | hey this debain is easy to install so far. |
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| 01:53.24 | xBbob | what is the lightest mailserver,want something other than exim4 |
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| 01:53.42 | anomaly | fresh install, any ideas why ssh would hang? connects fine, but sits there for at least 9 seconds before it gives password prompt? |
| 01:53.55 | abrotman | xBbob: to do what? |
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| 01:55.14 | xBbob | abrotman when i install without exim4 i am forwarded to choose a different mailclient mailx or somewhat, is there a way to work around that since i dont really need one |
| 01:55.19 | perlsyntax | what come after the select and install software? |
| 01:55.26 | perlsyntax | in the install? |
| 01:55.27 | Tramp | anomaly: maybe reverse DNS not working |
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| 01:55.45 | abrotman | xBbob: to send your mail how? |
| 01:55.57 | abrotman | perlsyntax: install more software? use the software? |
| 01:56.10 | perlsyntax | i see |
| 01:56.11 | xBbob | abrotman i do not need to send mail |
| 01:56.17 | anomaly | Tramp should I look for an option to switch in sshd_config ? |
| 01:56.32 | perlsyntax | i got like 3937sec leftr of the install software |
| 01:56.39 | abrotman | xBbob: exim4 is pretty light .. so is postfix |
| 01:56.52 | perlsyntax | it like 664 package big:O |
| 01:56.58 | abrotman | so just wait |
| 01:57.08 | Tramp | anomaly: well, you should fix reverse DNS - or check UseDNS maybe |
| 01:57.11 | perlsyntax | it not like fedora |
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| 01:58.17 | perlsyntax | abortman , it like a gentoo install but faster. |
| 01:58.42 | abrotman | because it's not .. gentoo |
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| 02:01.16 | perlsyntax | i know it not but it easy then gentoo. |
| 02:01.27 | perlsyntax | and don't take as long as it. |
| 02:02.27 | perlsyntax | abortman, you ever did debian from the internet before? |
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| 02:02.44 | abrotman | yes .. plenty of times |
| 02:03.15 | perlsyntax | how long does it take to install it? |
| 02:04.06 | perlsyntax | i hope i going to like debian linux. |
| 02:04.36 | abrotman | it depends on the speed of your machine and the speed of your internet |
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| 02:05.39 | perlsyntax | i got adsl |
| 02:05.56 | perlsyntax | i not sure of the cpu i can't rem it. |
| 02:06.11 | perlsyntax | it a ibm r50e laptop |
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| 02:14.07 | miniteman | Im getting my new amd 5600 X 2 this week and I want to install debian on it .. Im wondering whether to install the 32 or 64 version though .. will programs written for 32 run on the 64 version? |
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| 02:15.36 | abrotman | miniteman: if you don't have a good reason, i'd go 32bit |
| 02:16.56 | raekism_ | I am on 64 bit Debian and half the time flash does not work for me on website |
| 02:16.57 | raekism_ | s |
| 02:17.01 | miniteman | abrotman: I know you have answered this question before .. could you explain further why? |
| 02:17.28 | abrotman | miniteman: the advantages of 64bit dont' really carry over to a desktop very well |
| 02:17.37 | abrotman | or they're not as evident |
| 02:18.18 | raekism_ | yea i wish I installed the 32 bit |
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| 02:18.21 | raekism_ | too late now |
| 02:18.39 | miniteman | abrotman:just the thought that I have half a computer that is brand new gets me ..:p so I 'want' the most out of my new toy .. |
| 02:19.08 | abrotman | then why did you even ask? |
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| 02:19.38 | miniteman | abrotman:Im open to reason .. note the 'want' .. Im here to learn .. |
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| 02:20.37 | abrotman | well .. one reason would be you just asked if 32bit apps would work on a 64bit OS |
| 02:24.20 | miniteman | abrotman:yes I did .. Im guessing theres a lot more programs written for 32 bit machines .. if I couldnt use them it would discourage the use of 64 bit .. |
| 02:24.47 | abrotman | i'd wager not all of them will work |
| 02:25.15 | JW | how do you tell if swap is mounted or not? |
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| 02:25.24 | JW | mounted apparently isn't the right word, |
| 02:25.25 | miniteman | abrotman:I have to agree .. not taking that bet .. |
| 02:25.29 | JW | so "in use" |
| 02:25.40 | raekism_ | I think most 32 bit apps still run on 64 bit |
| 02:25.41 | abrotman | !am i swapping |
| 02:25.41 | dpkg | run "vmstat 3" and ignore the first 3 lines, if the "so" column is not 0s all the time you are swapping |
| 02:25.45 | raekism_ | just in 32 mode |
| 02:25.55 | abrotman | raekism_: are you willing to take that bet? |
| 02:26.23 | raekism_ | I am no expert but I have 32 bit apps running on my debian 64 |
| 02:26.34 | raekism_ | That is what I am basing it on |
| 02:26.37 | raekism_ | purely |
| 02:27.15 | abrotman | miniteman: you could just try it |
| 02:27.24 | abrotman | or ask #debian-amd64 on oftc |
| 02:27.55 | miniteman | abrotman:yeah I could .. but its like a shiny new car .. u want it to run first turn of the key ..:D |
| 02:28.16 | abrotman | but you should buy carefully |
| 02:28.23 | miniteman | lol |
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| 02:28.39 | miniteman | just wondering whether to us gasoline or rocket fuel .. |
| 02:28.42 | raekism_ | like I said I would install 32 bit OS if I had to do it over but I deployed and now I am stuck =-) |
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| 02:28.50 | meeero | what library contains the isc-hashing-headers of ISC ....? |
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| 02:33.35 | alekibango | hello, is it predictable when will linux kernel 2.6.27 enter into sid? |
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| 02:35.45 | abrotman | nope |
| 02:37.32 | alekibango | ty abrotman :D |
| 02:37.48 | alekibango | abrotman: i remeber seein you here some 10 years ago :D |
| 02:37.54 | abrotman | not 10 years ago |
| 02:37.58 | abrotman | maybe 6-7 or so |
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| 02:38.14 | alekibango | yep, getting old :D |
| 02:38.22 | enouf | old man, can't even throw a baseball .. :-P |
| 02:38.53 | enouf | hits one out of the park with his cane O_o |
| 02:39.16 | abrotman | i guess more like 5-6 |
| 02:39.25 | alekibango | why is 2.6.27 so late? |
| 02:39.31 | abrotman | late where? |
| 02:39.34 | alekibango | in sid |
| 02:39.36 | enouf | late how? |
| 02:39.38 | abrotman | it just came out like five days ago |
| 02:39.45 | enouf | ... |
| 02:39.47 | alekibango | its whole 5 days ago! |
| 02:40.06 | abrotman | but they're probably working on .26 for lenny |
| 02:40.09 | Kovensky | 2.6.27.1 is out already |
| 02:40.20 | alekibango | Kovensky: really? |
| 02:40.21 | enouf | !sns |
| 02:40.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 02:40.24 | karsten | alekibango: Well, there is the lenny freeze, which may affect stuff coming into sid dpending on maintainer's priiorities.... |
| 02:40.48 | abrotman | Kovensky: not in sid .. which is what he's asking about |
| 02:40.50 | enouf | !kernel.org stable |
| 02:40.56 | enouf | oh well :-) |
| 02:41.04 | Kovensky | abrotman: =p |
| 02:41.08 | alekibango | enouf: i am too lazy to compile it by hand if it will come out today |
| 02:41.40 | enouf | alekibango: you'll never be my wife with that attitude |
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| 02:41.58 | enouf | ;-P |
| 02:41.58 | alekibango | enouf: i have special needs |
| 02:42.26 | neofpo | Hello folks. Any of you guys managed to get Flash 10 to work with accelerated video at full screen? Mine crashes... |
| 02:42.26 | alekibango | and i have wife and few kids |
| 02:42.31 | karsten | alekibango: Use make-kpkg. |
| 02:43.02 | alekibango | karsten: thanks, i used it like 5 years ago, but well, i want the debian kernel, you know.... i just love debian |
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| 02:43.46 | streuner_ | hm |
| 02:44.15 | alekibango | lol. why is new swfdec mozilla plugin (and its deps) stuck somewhere is also good question |
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| 02:44.41 | alekibango | neofpo: i do not like adobe flash, its spyware |
| 02:45.11 | enouf | alekibango: then you surely won't be in my harem :-p |
| 02:45.23 | alekibango | enouf: agreed :D |
| 02:45.44 | neofpo | alekibango: neither do I, but I still want to open and use most of the web |
| 02:46.16 | alekibango | neofpo: swfdec is becoming pretty and mostly working (at least with videos) |
| 02:46.23 | b-04 | how to view the iso |
| 02:46.28 | enouf | accelerated video? is that like Fast Forward? |
| 02:46.29 | b-04 | with i use now |
| 02:46.36 | abrotman | the iso you use now? |
| 02:46.36 | b-04 | for my keypad? |
| 02:46.41 | b-04 | yes abrotman |
| 02:46.47 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 02:46.47 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 02:46.49 | enouf | keymap? hrm |
| 02:46.49 | abrotman | maybe? |
| 02:46.49 | b-04 | sorry for my english, im from Argentina |
| 02:47.26 | karsten | b-04: Sorry for my politics, I'm from America. |
| 02:47.27 | alekibango | b-04: u can use the language of the american empire pretty well :D |
| 02:47.46 | b-04 | :D |
| 02:47.47 | neofpo | alekibango: swfdec is a partial implementation of flash 9, won't work with many many sites... |
| 02:47.55 | neofpo | not a solution for day by day |
| 02:47.57 | b-04 | i like american ppl |
| 02:48.03 | alekibango | neofpo: hmm u need visual spam? |
| 02:48.03 | neofpo | i hate adobe's blob also, but... |
| 02:48.04 | alekibango | :D |
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| 02:48.15 | karsten | b-04: You're trying to view which ISO? Do you want to mount a CDROM image? |
| 02:48.27 | alekibango | b-04: try using mc and press enter on iso |
| 02:48.28 | karsten | b-04: Thanks. I've never eaten an argentenian ... |
| 02:48.29 | neofpo | alekibango: i need to use sites. Many I use rely a lot on flash to be able to even navigate |
| 02:48.34 | neofpo | I also hate visual spam |
| 02:48.35 | karsten | b-04: ... but I hear it's pretty good beef. |
| 02:48.40 | enouf | b-04: try file:///usr/share/locale/locale.alias |
| 02:48.41 | neofpo | adblock plus rooolz ftw |
| 02:48.51 | karsten | neofpo: flashblock plugin FTW. |
| 02:48.51 | enouf | and compare with locale output |
| 02:49.03 | CVirus | I installed kde through aptitude install kde ..and now I want to remove certain KDE components using aptitude remove kdeedu for instance ... but it wants to remove hell alot of packages that are not related to this specific component ! |
| 02:49.33 | alekibango | so make them installed again... |
| 02:49.38 | alekibango | using + or = |
| 02:49.38 | enouf | gah .. crap .. nm |
| 02:49.43 | b-04 | es_ES.ISO-8859-1 |
| 02:49.45 | b-04 | thanks :) |
| 02:49.50 | alekibango | u can do it on groups |
| 02:50.04 | alekibango | CVirus: aptitude remembers which packages are installed manually |
| 02:50.25 | alekibango | and dependencies... and its trying to remove automatically installed packages..... |
| 02:50.40 | karsten | b-04: There should be an es_ES.UTF8 or simiar. UTF8 generally is more up-to-date than the old ISO formats. |
| 02:51.44 | alekibango | yes, old iso is thing of the past, especially after what microsoft did.... with ooxml |
| 02:51.47 | alekibango | :D |
| 02:52.13 | CVirus | alekibango: what do you suggest then ? |
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| 02:52.30 | CVirus | alekibango: I just want to remove certain kde components |
| 02:52.32 | alekibango | CVirus: remove kde, and on others you want to keep use = or + |
| 02:52.42 | alekibango | u can use it on groups |
| 02:52.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:52.46 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:52.47 | alekibango | in interactive mode in aptitude |
| 02:53.15 | alekibango | abrotman: hmm t u for correction |
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| 02:53.39 | enouf | b-04: that list is by no means complete - if you configure locales as the "/msg dpkg locales" says (and the keymap factoid above dpkg told you) you should be fine - make sure to check /etc/default/locale if you find you have issues - do you have any problem? |
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| 02:54.26 | alekibango | if you fall into problems, check also content of /etc/environment |
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| 02:56.32 | enouf | hrm - try $ localedef --list-archive |
| 02:56.58 | enouf | i use localepurge, so ain't much here :-P |
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| 02:58.54 | enouf | oh my Molly :-P |
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| 03:04.16 | caranthir | how should add to my $PATH, adding it to .bash_profile doesn't seem to be doing anything |
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| 03:09.00 | dniel | I wanna do a router that it load all in ram and any change will not save in disk. Only save in ram but if I want I can do. Like router CISCOs |
| 03:09.02 | dniel | any idea? |
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| 03:14.57 | enouf | caranthir was a drive-by? |
| 03:15.47 | enouf | dniel: boot a system using a livecd and let it act as your router? |
| 03:16.12 | dniel | enouf: yes |
| 03:16.23 | dniel | enouf: but I wanna do my livecd |
| 03:16.42 | enouf | maybe something like openvz even? i do not know much about things like that sadly |
| 03:17.20 | dniel | enouf: but openvz is a conteiner |
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| 03:17.31 | dniel | container |
| 03:18.20 | Orbixx | dniel: Could possibly be a boot parameter for such a thing. |
| 03:18.28 | enouf | i see - maybe ##networking or ##linux might have better ideas? but there are very knowledgeable people in here, you just need to catch them when they're on |
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| 03:19.02 | dniel | enouf: thaks! |
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| 03:21.30 | umarzuki | guys |
| 03:21.34 | umarzuki | i had a netraid scsi adapter, when i boot up, it says "DRM=16 MB CLUSTER=not supported I20=enabled", what does it means? |
| 03:21.47 | umarzuki | no clustering? |
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| 03:23.32 | b-04 | In file included from evas_engine.c:3: |
| 03:23.32 | b-04 | evas_engine.h:8:36: error: X11/extensions/Xrender.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:24.17 | b-04 | evas_engine.c: In function 'module_open': |
| 03:24.17 | b-04 | evas_engine.c:1029: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type |
| 03:25.09 | faheem | Can someone point me to the irc channel that shows activity on the bts? Having no luck locating it. |
| 03:25.34 | liable | b-04: try installing xorg-dev |
| 03:25.40 | bolt | can I somehow remove a harddrive from mdadm without knowing which md it's in? i just want to erase any record of that drive being in a raid |
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| 03:25.57 | dondelelcaro | faheem: #debian-bugs-changes or #debian-bugs on irc.oftc.net iirc. |
| 03:25.59 | b-04 | liable, thanks:) |
| 03:26.50 | faheem | dondelelcaro: Not on freenode then. Thanks. |
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| 03:27.49 | _Sam-- | bolt: mdadm -D /dev/md* will you show any arrays and the drives within |
| 03:28.14 | enouf | bolt: that doesn't make much sense to me - got any more info? |
| 03:28.35 | _Sam-- | bolt: after finding the array, you could either remove the drive, or stop that array. |
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| 03:29.03 | enouf | bolt: you want to see the --fail and --remove options |
| 03:29.33 | bolt | enouf: mdadm -Es shown three /dev/md0's. i've been screwing around too much, and I now have one array with /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1, another with /dev/sda and /dev/sdc and two more. also, the drive I'm booting from is a /dev/md0 and that's the one mdadm is using when I specify /dev/md0 as the device |
| 03:29.38 | enouf | so you don't damage the array - then you can worry about writing zeros to the drive you pulled |
| 03:30.42 | bolt | enouf: that's why I need to remove /dev/sdc from an array, and I can't use /dev/md0 because /dev/sdc is not in the array mdadm uses when I specify /dev/md0. |
| 03:30.44 | _Sam-- | if you've never setup the mdadm.conf properly or changed your fstab, all you need to is reboot. (if your machine reboots right). |
| 03:30.51 | enouf | well, that certainly is more info - however, it's not making sense to me :-P sorry though |
| 03:31.15 | bolt | there has to be something on a drive which identifies it as part of an array |
| 03:31.17 | bolt | the uuid things |
| 03:31.25 | _Sam-- | that is only in the linux side. |
| 03:31.27 | _Sam-- | not on the drive. |
| 03:31.41 | bolt | but don't all devices in an array have the same uuid? |
| 03:31.42 | enouf | they are part of the SuperBlock |
| 03:31.52 | enouf | IIRC |
| 03:32.05 | bolt | so mdadm writes to the superblock? |
| 03:32.10 | _Sam-- | no, to either. |
| 03:32.14 | enouf | erm, it creates one |
| 03:32.15 | _Sam-- | but im done answering the q's. |
| 03:32.27 | bolt | is there a way to erase/recreate the superblock? I don't need the data on /dev/sda and /dev/sdc. got backups |
| 03:32.51 | enouf | each array has one, IINM, i might be wrong, but i don't think so .. |
| 03:33.13 | _Sam-- | an array is only consisting of partitions. |
| 03:33.19 | _Sam-- | that is ALL that matters to the array and raid. |
| 03:33.26 | enouf | disassembling the array will rid you of the superblock |
| 03:33.45 | enouf | not all drives have, nor need partitions |
| 03:34.13 | enouf | i'm certainly confused as to his particular setup though |
| 03:34.16 | bolt | but all /etc/mdadm/mdadm contains is a uuid and a raid setup. it doen't contain info for every drive. so the drives belonging to that uuid array must be findable by the uuid |
| 03:34.56 | bolt | enouf: my setup is simple. i just messed it up. i have 4 harddrives, and i want sda1 and sdc1 in a raid |
| 03:35.20 | enouf | bolt: cat /proc/mdstat |
| 03:36.19 | bolt | enouf: shows md0 as active, but missing one drive. that's the extra harddrive i've connected to boot from, as the setup on the 4 harddrives which are supposed to be there doesn't work yet |
| 03:37.46 | bolt | to explain: machine has 4 harddrives internally, 1 lying next to it, connected. the drive next to it was previously part of a raid 1. it's defined as /dev/md0 and is missing its mirror when i boot from it. on the internal drives, sda and sdc are defined as md0, and sda1 and sdc1 are also defined as md0. they all show up with mdadm -Es |
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| 03:38.26 | bolt | /proc/mdstat only holds the degraded array of the boot drive (the one lying next to the machine) |
| 03:38.34 | enouf | bolt: the docs in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* and the manpages should guide you through, but heed the warnings i mentioned about marking a drive as failed, then removing it from the array. |
| 03:38.54 | bolt | still, these other md0's make trouble when I try to boot from whatever setup i create |
| 03:39.01 | enouf | either use zless to view the .gz docs or gunzip -d them |
| 03:39.07 | bolt | i just want them all erased from sda and sdc and recreate them |
| 03:39.35 | bolt | i can't remove drives from the array, because it uses the wrong array :( |
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| 03:39.49 | roe_ | I have lots of moving parts involved so I am not sure how to ask this clearly, I have a debian box, which is authing to AD. it seems that doing uid and gid lookups are taking forever. For example, ls -l in /home takes about 20seconds to run |
| 03:39.55 | _Sam-- | edit /etc/default/mdadm and tell it AUTOSTART=false |
| 03:40.14 | _Sam-- | then stop all the arrays. |
| 03:40.17 | enouf | _Sam--: there's that file again :-) |
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| 03:40.27 | _Sam-- | yeah, funny how that comes around :) |
| 03:40.36 | enouf | yep :-) |
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| 03:41.17 | _Sam-- | unless md0 is currently mounted as / you should be able to stop / unmount / disassemble all the arrays. |
| 03:41.36 | _Sam-- | then just do them again. you didnt change anything in /etc/fstab? |
| 03:42.21 | _Sam-- | anyway, good luck. i gotta get some stuff done. |
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| 03:45.09 | mxmx | hi |
| 03:45.23 | enouf | _Sam--: to clarify what i was saying about superblocks, and [If i understand it all correctly] there are even various superblock types that one can use - now, each drive that's part of an array (or who's partitions are) will need around 1MB extra space for the superblock/metadata - this is how the kernel and device-mapper knows how to assemble/disassemble and which partition/volumes/drives are part of which arrays |
| 03:45.29 | mxmx | can anyone tell me what lynx is and why spapmmer assain needs it? |
| 03:46.42 | bolt | hey! i found it |
| 03:46.54 | bolt | mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda |
| 03:47.02 | enouf | !\o/ |
| 03:47.02 | dpkg | from memory, \o/ is w00t! O_o cool \o// oh joy! |
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| 03:48.34 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 03:49.31 | enouf | there are some here that know tons more than i about mdadm, and i am certainly open to correction - please feel free to, if i've misstated anything there |
| 03:50.52 | umarzuki | i had a netraid scsi adapter, when i boot up, it says "DRM=16 MB CLUSTER=not supported I20=enabled", what does it means? |
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| 03:56.40 | enouf | umarzuki: i wish i knew - if you are using debian, might want to email debian-users@list.debian.org or maybe try the linux-scsi list, or use your Google-Fu ;-) |
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| 03:56.46 | enouf | umarzuki: is that an HP? |
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| 04:00.16 | b-04 | ../../src/lib/dbus/.libs/libedbus.so: undefined reference to `dbus_watch_get_unix_fd' |
| 04:00.36 | b-04 | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 04:00.36 | b-04 | make[3]: *** [e_dbus_test] Error 1 |
| 04:00.42 | b-04 | mm have any idea of this error? |
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| 04:03.19 | b-04 | enouf :D? |
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| 04:04.54 | enouf | b-04: what are you building? |
| 04:05.01 | b-04 | e17 |
| 04:05.11 | b-04 | enlightment |
| 04:05.14 | b-04 | windows manager |
| 04:05.23 | enouf | b-04: maybe dbus and dbus-1 -dev pkgs |
| 04:05.33 | liable | b-04: with those sorts of errors, googling the exact error will usually get you the package you need to install |
| 04:05.54 | Lagbolt | e17 is not so shabby :) |
| 04:05.55 | b-04 | aham |
| 04:06.12 | b-04 | what is shabby? |
| 04:06.21 | b-04 | shabby is good or bad adjetive? |
| 04:06.23 | enouf | b-04: debian separates teh build headers into the '-dev' named pkgs |
| 04:06.23 | Lagbolt | not to shabby means pretty good |
| 04:06.41 | Lagbolt | b-04, i liked the look. still needs a little work but it is not bad :) |
| 04:06.52 | b-04 | yes, dbus-1-dev package is installed |
| 04:07.03 | b-04 | Lagbolt, is beautiful |
| 04:07.40 | Lagbolt | b-04, yeah. i almost switched, i think the file manager is one of the big hold ups for me. i still use it sometimes when i want a change. |
| 04:07.58 | enouf | b-04: $ apt-cache search dbus | grep dev |
| 04:09.20 | enouf | b-04: are you on Etch? |
| 04:09.20 | b-04 | libdbus-1-dev - simple interprocess messaging system (development headers) |
| 04:09.20 | b-04 | libdbus-glib-1-dev - simple interprocess messaging system (GLib interface) |
| 04:09.21 | b-04 | libdbus-qt-1-dev - simple interprocess messaging system (Qt interface) |
| 04:09.27 | b-04 | yes, im in etch |
| 04:09.28 | enouf | i guess not |
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| 04:09.37 | enouf | oh well |
| 04:11.10 | b-04 | i have dbus 1.0 |
| 04:11.13 | b-04 | and need dbus 1.1 |
| 04:11.22 | enouf | b-04: i'd say you'd have to pastebin that error + 25-50 lines or so just above it - if anyone is to try and decipher it .. uh huh |
| 04:11.35 | b-04 | in my repositorie, not found dbus 1.1 :( |
| 04:11.37 | enouf | check backports.org maybe |
| 04:11.49 | enouf | or, make your own |
| 04:12.03 | _Sam-- | enouf : thank you for the lesson, i think you are 100% correct (re: superblock). sorry for the bad info. |
| 04:12.06 | enouf | if possible |
| 04:12.13 | b-04 | thanks! |
| 04:12.44 | umarzuki | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.48 | enouf | _Sam--: hey, no worries ;-) |
| 04:13.11 | umarzuki | the error appears upon bootstrap |
| 04:13.36 | umarzuki | not when booting debian, but i just want to ask if anyone knowa |
| 04:13.39 | umarzuki | knows |
| 04:13.59 | b-04 | mmm |
| 04:14.06 | b-04 | not package dbus-1.1 for etche |
| 04:14.20 | b-04 | i can install the packacge dbus1.1 for sarge? |
| 04:14.50 | enouf | umarzuki: try ##linux, and ##linux-help and google for it in googlegroups.com maybe? comp.os.linux.* or wider |
| 04:15.05 | wols_ | if etch has no 1.1 why would sarge? |
| 04:15.19 | wols_ | umarzuki: it's a simple status message |
| 04:15.19 | enouf | judd: dbus-1 versions |
| 04:15.20 | judd | enouf: Error: "dbus-1" is not a valid command. |
| 04:15.35 | enouf | judd: versions dbus-1 |
| 04:15.38 | judd | enouf: dbus-1: |
| 04:15.42 | enouf | heh |
| 04:15.43 | wols_ | judd: versions *dbus1* |
| 04:15.50 | umarzuki | wols_: does it mean i cannot do clustering |
| 04:16.11 | wols_ | umarzuki: at least right now, no it can't it seems |
| 04:16.16 | wols_ | why not I have no clue |
| 04:16.19 | enouf | $ apt-cache depends libdbus-1-dev shows me; |
| 04:16.20 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.20 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.39 | enouf | but i'm not on Etch |
| 04:16.55 | judd | wols_: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 04:17.05 | wols_ | enouf: he runs etch and wants e17? |
| 04:17.13 | wols_ | erm he runs sarge I mean |
| 04:17.15 | enouf | that's why i thought he wasn't either once he showed libdbus... |
| 04:17.16 | umarzuki | wols_: sight...i just hope i can learn clustering with old servers at my office...now i seems i can't |
| 04:17.44 | wols_ | umarzuki: could be it just isn't supported in this config. google more about it |
| 04:17.49 | Lagbolt | wow sarge? |
| 04:18.13 | enouf | wols_: if he's using Sarge - i give up :-P |
| 04:18.30 | wols_ | first spank him |
| 04:18.32 | umarzuki | wols_: at least already done that a couple of times before entering this chan |
| 04:18.47 | umarzuki | irc and forum always my last resort |
| 04:18.52 | wols_ | umarzuki: no howto out there (linux general howto, not debian specific) |
| 04:18.55 | wols_ | ? |
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| 04:19.25 | umarzuki | wols_: perhaps i just focused on that particular error... |
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| 04:19.46 | wols_ | umarzuki: it's no error |
| 04:19.52 | enouf | umarzuki: check the kernel source/docs, that's how i thought it was HP .. though i admit, not much there otherwise upon a quick look |
| 04:19.57 | umarzuki | hadn't found any howto yet...and i still need to prepare for a class :) |
| 04:19.58 | dustybin | my wireless is now on a DMZ which has only access to my OpenVPN server, this is what one would call _secure_ wireless :) |
| 04:20.34 | wols_ | dustybin: do you have a debian support question? |
| 04:20.39 | b-04 | its works |
| 04:20.53 | b-04 | i download the last version of dbus |
| 04:20.57 | b-04 | and install manually |
| 04:20.58 | b-04 | :) |
| 04:21.27 | enouf | awaits the dependency hell that'll ensue shortly :-P |
| 04:21.43 | b-04 | loves enouf |
| 04:21.44 | wols_ | b-04: sooner or later it will break your debian. but your choice |
| 04:22.05 | b-04 | why? |
| 04:22.05 | wols_ | ~if it isn't already broken |
| 04:22.24 | wols_ | cause what you did was stupid |
| 04:22.33 | wols_ | do a backport |
| 04:23.25 | b-04 | :( |
| 04:23.31 | b-04 | my debian crash? :( |
| 04:23.45 | b-04 | because i installed dbus? |
| 04:23.50 | wols_ | yes |
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| 04:24.01 | b-04 | i can repair? |
| 04:25.41 | enouf | !tell b-04 -about dependencies |
| 04:26.39 | b-04 | ou have searched for dbus-1 in packages names and descriptions in suite(s) etch-backports, all sections, and all architectures (including subword matching). |
| 04:26.54 | enouf | !tell b-04 -about stable + testing |
| 04:27.39 | b-04 | yes, i find dbus-1 in backport.org |
| 04:27.41 | b-04 | and 0 results :( |
| 04:27.57 | enouf | what? |
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| 04:29.01 | b-04 | enouf, |
| 04:29.33 | b-04 | the version of dbus for etche is 1.0.2-1+etch1: |
| 04:29.42 | b-04 | and i need 1.1 or + |
| 04:29.54 | wols_ | b-04: I told you to MAKE your own backport, not download a backport |
| 04:30.20 | b-04 | how make a backport? |
| 04:30.40 | wols_ | !tell b-04 about ssb |
| 04:30.42 | b-04 | !tell b-04 how install dbus1.1 for etche :P |
| 04:31.19 | b-04 | wols_, dont understant |
| 04:31.32 | wols_ | b-04: dpkg messaged you |
| 04:31.46 | b-04 | how to find for this dbus1.1 is backported? |
| 04:32.13 | enouf | wols_: i never understood though why pulling from sid is better than testing in these cases, can you explain? is it because of the freeze at the moment? or does that have nothing to do with it |
| 04:32.17 | wols_ | according to you you just searched and it isn't backported. that is why YOU have to MAKE your backport |
| 04:32.49 | enouf | b-04: didn't you get a PM from dpkg the bot? |
| 04:32.55 | wols_ | enouf: it's the same. just that sid "works" in case something is not in testing. pulling frm testing something for testing makes no sense |
| 04:33.03 | wols_ | and when you start to backport, why not the newest? |
| 04:33.13 | b-04 | enouf, yes, dont understant :( |
| 04:33.14 | b-04 | so.. |
| 04:33.24 | b-04 | i get dbus1.1 for unstable version? |
| 04:33.35 | wols_ | b-04: specific questions when you want answers. WHAT you doN't understand |
| 04:33.46 | enouf | wols_: i always thought there's less of a chance of something major like libc6 needed - but now i see how silly that is |
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| 04:34.18 | enouf | s/major/major and newer/ |
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| 04:34.26 | Lagbolt | wols_, what about pulling in packages that dont bring in lots of dependencies. I run lenny and i installed e17 from experimental and it didnt pull in anything not directly related to e17. similar with openoffice 3 |
| 04:34.41 | wols_ | Lagbolt: what about it? |
| 04:34.58 | b-04 | !tell b-04 backports |
| 04:35.14 | wols_ | !tell b-04 about msgthebot |
| 04:35.21 | Lagbolt | wols_, is it a BAD idea or would you still reco backporting. |
| 04:35.24 | enouf | b-04: building a backport allows you to use newer software with your stable system - this is what the pkgs at backports.org are all about |
| 04:35.44 | b-04 | perfect.. |
| 04:35.47 | wols_ | Lagbolt: if experimental doesn't hose your depdenencies, I'd use experimental |
| 04:35.55 | b-04 | so..how build backport? |
| 04:36.03 | enouf | b-04: though, in many cases, such as for a newer Xorg, a backport wouldn't work .. |
| 04:36.10 | wols_ | b-04: I won't give you the factoid a 2nd time. the ssb factoid explains it |
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| 04:37.09 | Lagbolt | excellent |
| 04:37.38 | b-04 | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a "deb-src ..." line ONLY for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 04:37.46 | b-04 | this is for build a backport? |
| 04:37.54 | enouf | !tell b-04 -about ssb |
| 04:38.01 | enouf | !tell b-04 -about selftell |
| 04:38.15 | b-04 | sorry |
| 04:38.17 | b-04 | thks |
| 04:38.28 | b-04 | now, i go to verify in backport.org |
| 04:38.29 | enouf | np |
| 04:38.43 | b-04 | for the dbus1.1 is backported, good? |
| 04:39.04 | wols_ | if you didn't lie you already did this |
| 04:39.22 | wols_ | b-04: it helps to udnerstand what you do before you do it.... |
| 04:39.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | what package is needed to have openoffice play movies? the install on my desktop computer can do it, but the laptop I want to use for the presentation cannot... |
| 04:39.45 | b-04 | sorry dont understant :( |
| 04:39.50 | b-04 | nadie habla español no ? :( |
| 04:39.55 | wols_ | !es |
| 04:39.56 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:40.03 | b-04 | yhks :) |
| 04:40.17 | wols_ | b-04: you should just follow blindly what we or dpkg say. you should UNDERSTAND what those things mean and do |
| 04:40.33 | enouf | Lagbolt: note, lenny->{sid/experimental} is not nearly the leap that etch->{lenny/sid} is |
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| 04:40.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there some "openoffice multimedia" or something that does it? |
| 04:41.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | or a special player that openoffice uses? |
| 04:41.03 | wols_ | !tell CutMeOwnThroat about search |
| 04:41.10 | Lagbolt | enouf, very true |
| 04:42.29 | enouf | wols_: + not ? in your-> "b-04: you should just follow blindly what we or dpkg say. ....." ^^^^^ |
| 04:42.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_, I know "-about search", but I still can't find what package makes openoffice impress play videos |
| 04:42.57 | enouf | (i do that a lot myself) |
| 04:43.01 | wols_ | enouf: caught me. thanks |
| 04:43.05 | wols_ | mea culpa |
| 04:43.08 | enouf | np |
| 04:43.25 | sharp15 | how hard is it to return grub to the system mbr if windows takes that back over? i do not want to reinstall debian just to fix it. |
| 04:43.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'd even follow it blindly if someone has a suggestion ;) |
| 04:43.50 | enouf | !tell sharp15 about rescue mode |
| 04:44.23 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: heh |
| 04:44.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, this must work rather soon |
| 04:45.04 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: #openoffice ? or something? |
| 04:45.17 | sharp15 | enouf: can i assume that recovery mode is on the network install disk? |
| 04:45.33 | enouf | there used to be a #openoffice.org i think |
| 04:45.39 | enouf | sharp15: sure |
| 04:45.55 | enouf | sharp15: hit F1-F10 ;-) |
| 04:46.52 | enouf | (amazing little help buttons that get ignored in 32/64bit land) :-P |
| 04:47.29 | sharp15 | enouf: as of july #openoffice.org still existed. i don't remeber if alis knew about it though. |
| 04:47.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, my suspicion is that just some package is missing... because I didn't do anything "special" for any of those (this is actually the 1st time I really try to use openoffice... as things go might be the last) |
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| 04:48.38 | sharp15 | enouf: ok. thank you. i'm not looking at the disk interface right now. just contemplating reinstalling the dual boot and if Debian survives i don't want to nuke it. |
| 04:48.46 | sharp15 | CutMeOwnThroat: what is the problem with OO.o? |
| 04:49.42 | sharp15 | nevermind. i found your question. i don't know how to add movies in a presentation so i couldn't help you. |
| 04:49.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 04:50.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | it played well on the computer I made the presentation with... |
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| 04:50.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | only moving it to the laptop proved fatal :( |
| 04:50.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well |
| 04:50.47 | bolt | I have an asus p5q pro, which has a 1000mbit network card on a p45 chipset. my etchnhalf kernel doesn't seem to be detecting it. i see nothing suspicious in lspci, and ifconfig -a doesn't have it. what can I do? |
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| 04:50.53 | ptotterm | CutMeOwnThroat: and both are running the same debian release? |
| 04:51.09 | owen1 | how to find the screen resolution using the terminal? |
| 04:51.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | I went to the newest openoffice on both |
| 04:51.22 | ptotterm | CutMeOwnThroat: maybe you could list installed packages on both (dpkg -l) and diff them to find the differences? |
| 04:51.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe I can see which player it uses with ps on the machine where it works? |
| 04:51.57 | bolt | oh wait, I do have "02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1969:1026 (rev b0)" |
| 04:52.04 | bolt | is that useful? |
| 04:52.28 | wols_ | !tell hoxu about atl |
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| 04:52.44 | wols_ | !tell bolt about atl1 |
| 04:52.49 | wols_ | hoxu: sorry |
| 04:53.24 | wols_ | owen1: xrandr or your Xorg logfile |
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| 04:53.45 | enouf | !tell bolt about update-pciids |
| 04:53.54 | enouf | grah |
| 04:54.08 | owen1 | wols_: thanks |
| 04:54.10 | enouf | bolt: run "update-pciids" |
| 04:54.30 | bolt | enouf: kinda hard without the network card... |
| 04:54.32 | wols_ | owen1: if you aren't using ahci for your sata, you will need a newer kernel than etchnhalf btw |
| 04:54.33 | bolt | i did modprobe atl1, but it still doesn't show up in ifconfig |
| 04:54.33 | enouf | owen1: resolution for X? ok |
| 04:54.49 | enouf | bolt: good point :-P |
| 04:54.54 | enouf | no wired net? |
| 04:55.03 | bolt | that *is* wired net :/ |
| 04:55.11 | wols_ | bolt: then check newer kernels for atl1e.ko |
| 04:55.15 | enouf | bolt: you could get the list from pciids.sf.net |
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| 04:55.52 | owen1 | wols_: where are the xorg log files? |
| 04:56.01 | enouf | wols_: i've seen something about atl1 stuff moving over to atlx was it? |
| 04:56.06 | enouf | atlxe? |
| 04:56.20 | wols_ | owen1: in /var/log like all logs |
| 04:56.27 | owen1 | wols_: got it |
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| 04:56.28 | enouf | ahh , for the atl2 stuff that's shared with atl1 or something |
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| 04:57.01 | bolt | enouf: "no apparent driver available. company got bought by marvell. present in asus p5q" |
| 04:57.05 | wols_ | bolt: with a chipset/board as new as yours, you will pretty much need 2.6.26 or newer |
| 04:58.01 | enouf | try the etch backports.org .26 kernel? |
| 04:58.36 | enouf | /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/atlx/atl1.ko |
| 04:58.37 | enouf | /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/atl1e/atl1e.ko |
| 04:59.01 | owen1 | wols_: i see a lot of lines with numbers like ####x### ..which one is the current resolution? |
| 04:59.27 | enouf | owen1: xrandr as he mentioned |
| 04:59.32 | wols_ | owen1: it tells you which one it useus for output |
| 04:59.33 | wols_ | x |
| 04:59.36 | enouf | also xdpyinfo, IINM |
| 05:00.51 | owen1 | enouf: wols_: 1024x768 60.0* 75.0 70.0 thanks! |
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| 05:02.19 | wols_ | bolt: there are drivers |
| 05:02.43 | bolt | wols_: trying the backports kernel image. just have to download and stuff it on usb :) |
| 05:05.16 | owen1 | when i open a movie on my desktop, full screen, it's height is only %50 of the screen's height. on my laptop it's much better (%80). my desktop is 1024x768 and my laptop is 1368x768. any ideas? |
| 05:07.05 | Lagbolt | owen1, with what player? |
| 05:07.39 | owen1 | Lagbolt: mplayer |
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| 05:08.00 | enouf | owen1: is your screen looking fine otherwise? i mean, when no movie is playing? |
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| 05:08.06 | Lagbolt | owen1, you might need to set the -monitoraspec option |
| 05:08.16 | Lagbolt | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.25 | hoxu | wols_, no problem. May the luck be with your tab key ;) |
| 05:08.25 | owen1 | Lagbolt: (both machines, but the desktop i have dwm and laptop xfce) |
| 05:08.47 | enouf | try even -aspect N:n |
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| 05:09.51 | bolt | gah. i need to build some modules myself too, and the linux-headers package depends on a linux-kbuild which depends on libc6 from lenny |
| 05:09.54 | bolt | guess it's lenny for me then |
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| 05:10.12 | Lagbolt | owen1, 1368x768 is 1.78 aspect so -monitoraspect 16/9 might help |
| 05:10.14 | enouf | owen1: do you want it to be FullScreen as default when you open it? - i think your xorg.conf needs a DisplaySize set in Monitor section |
| 05:10.21 | enouf | owen1: in mm |
| 05:11.06 | enouf | hehe -> [01:10:05] [dpkg] 1378 pixels cannot be converted to mm: Unknown unit 'pixels' |
| 05:11.07 | Lagbolt | owen1, yeah you need -zoom maybe to get it to stretch |
| 05:11.18 | owen1 | Lagbolt: mplayer movie.avi monitoraspec 16:9 but it's still small. |
| 05:11.25 | Lagbolt | try adding -zoom |
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| 05:12.13 | enouf | if using lenny or higher gtf might help, but just physically measure the friggin thing |
| 05:12.32 | owen1 | Lagbolt: -zoom didn't help |
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| 05:13.14 | Lagbolt | owen1, can you pastebin the output from mplayer command line? do you know what VO you are using? X11? xv? |
| 05:13.17 | owen1 | could it be something with dwm? it's a tiled window manager. |
| 05:13.25 | Throat | doh, the desktop froze when switching to console |
| 05:13.44 | Lagbolt | owen1, that is possible i guess. i dont know |
| 05:14.11 | enouf | hrm cvt and gtf, i'll never recall those names :-/ ... sigh |
| 05:14.58 | owen1 | Lagbolt: http://pastebin.com/m305e49c3 |
| 05:15.38 | enouf | owen1: -aspect, not sure about monitoraspec with no leading '-' and no t on the command line - if ~/.mplayer/config, then no, you generally don't use a leading '-' |
| 05:16.59 | enouf | but i guess all else is well, since you don't answer - Lagbolt it's all your baby ;-) |
| 05:17.00 | Lagbolt | def need a - in front of monitor aspect |
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| 05:17.30 | Lagbolt | enouf, -aspect will affect eh aspect of the movie . . . i use monitoraspect for monitors but it shouldnt afftec the stretch. |
| 05:17.33 | Lagbolt | far as i know zoom should do it |
| 05:18.05 | Lagbolt | owen1, i dont see anything obvious |
| 05:18.54 | owen1 | Lagbolt: works! -monitoraspect 16:9 |
| 05:19.02 | Lagbolt | owen1, sweet |
| 05:19.04 | owen1 | Lagbolt: the zoom didn't change anything. |
| 05:19.12 | Lagbolt | owen1, you can set those in .mplayer/config by default |
| 05:19.19 | Lagbolt | or globally in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf |
| 05:19.21 | owen1 | Lagbolt: what other aspects should i try? |
| 05:20.05 | b-04 | Reading package lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occurred while processing tk8.5 (NewVersion1) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 05:20.12 | b-04 | executing apt-get update |
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| 05:20.16 | enouf | !mmap |
| 05:20.17 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
| 05:20.20 | b-04 | i add the deb testing |
| 05:20.34 | enouf | b-04: see what dpkg just said |
| 05:20.40 | b-04 | thks :$ |
| 05:20.57 | Lagbolt | owen1, depends on your monitor. . . the aspect is width/height typical is 4:3 and 16:9, many laptops and widescreen monitors are 16:10 |
| 05:22.00 | enouf | 15/17/19" LCDs generally have a 5:4 .. booo |
| 05:22.36 | owen1 | Lagbolt: thank you. i wonder why it's automatically 16:9 on my laptop. |
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| 05:24.54 | shivraj | how can I see the time in console ? |
| 05:26.25 | b-04 | thanks |
| 05:26.28 | b-04 | its work :) |
| 05:26.32 | b-04 | apt cache limit |
| 05:26.51 | b-04 | i go to install dbus from the testing sources |
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| 05:27.15 | superjoe30 | I deleted my main panel in gnome because I was customizing it, and when I re-added the notification area, the applet for my wifi (network-manager-gnome) didn't appear. Where is this, and how do I get it back into a panel? |
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| 05:31.24 | linostar | is there a way to preserve a block file always to a certain file (e.g when a certain usb disk is plugged, it shall always be identified as /dev/sda)? |
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| 05:31.48 | zinx | linostar: no, but it will always be /dev/disk/by-id/foo |
| 05:31.53 | enouf | !tell linostar about udev rules |
| 05:32.09 | enouf | !tell linostar about automount |
| 05:32.15 | zinx | linostar: there's also by-label and by-uuid |
| 05:32.18 | enouf | !tell linostar -about selftell |
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| 05:32.39 | enouf | but yeah, LABEL and UUID should do, for identity |
| 05:32.52 | zinx | not for FAT32 |
| 05:33.06 | enouf | zinx: why not? |
| 05:33.06 | zinx | by-id should generally work, though.. it uses the drive's serial |
| 05:33.13 | enouf | what? |
| 05:33.31 | enouf | zinx: i have VFAT partitions that have LABELs |
| 05:33.41 | zinx | enouf: well, i guess it does have a volume label that could be used.. but the UUID on FAT32 is 32-bit and very much not unique |
| 05:33.43 | superjoe30 | figured it out, just had to run nm-applet again |
| 05:34.14 | enouf | zinx: and guess what, they also have UUIDs |
| 05:34.16 | enouf | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2008-09-27 16:05 1050-19D9 -> ../../hdc1 |
| 05:34.16 | enouf | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2008-09-27 16:05 313C-0CF8 -> ../../hdc5 |
| 05:34.31 | enouf | ofcourse not, but usable |
| 05:34.38 | linostar | is reading writing_udev_rules article |
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| 05:35.32 | enouf | heh, though hdc5 is now a reiserfs O_o |
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| 05:36.33 | zinx | enouf: 32-bit is not usable. |
| 05:36.42 | zinx | enouf: too many collisions |
| 05:36.52 | enouf | works for me ;-) |
| 05:37.06 | zinx | enouf: no point when you can use by-id or by-label |
| 05:37.28 | enouf | the point is one can use whatever one wants to use |
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| 05:43.16 | enouf | zinx: didn't mean to be difficult, but you were trying to be :-P |
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| 05:50.41 | zinx | enouf: sorry :x |
| 05:51.11 | enouf | zinx: nah - it's all me |
| 05:51.45 | enouf | !qotd0 |
| 05:51.45 | dpkg | <felix_187> abrotman: presuming everything worked correctly, how could i get my wireless working? |
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| 05:55.18 | b-04 | i compiled e17 |
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| 05:55.33 | b-04 | how is the gdm config file for edit for init e17? |
| 05:58.06 | Lagbolt | b-04, mine is 8 lines |
| 05:58.11 | Lagbolt | you mean the session file right? |
| 05:58.56 | b-04 | yes |
| 05:59.11 | Lagbolt | 8 lines for me |
| 05:59.17 | b-04 | i init gdm, and i can select the window manager |
| 05:59.19 | b-04 | hahahahah |
| 05:59.31 | b-04 | all my love is for you |
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| 06:00.55 | b-04 | iback |
| 06:00.56 | b-04 | nw |
| 06:01.09 | Magui | got a quick question. I'm trying to configure a program (this is in KDE). the program has a dialog window which I think has an error message in it, but the dialog window closes so fast that I cannot read it. how do I stop this window from closing? |
| 06:01.34 | enouf | ugh .. don't you love bloated GUIs? lmao |
| 06:02.02 | linostar | Magui: start your program from the command line, and see if the error got shown there |
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| 06:02.11 | enouf | Magui: it's also likely in a log somewhere - but launch the app in an xterm |
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| 06:02.43 | Magui | man...I don't think so...well, I'll try it. |
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| 06:03.59 | Magui | well... |
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| 06:04.21 | Magui | something did show up in the xterm, but it looks a lot shorter than what I can briefly see in the dialog window. |
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| 06:04.59 | Magui | doesn't KDE have ways of controlling windows' behavior? I guess I just assumed it would. |
| 06:07.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_, enouf I found it - its only with the newer openoffices and the packages needed are somewhere in the gstreamer-bad // gstreamer-ugly plugins (not sure what finally did it - installing just the most obvious video-related one was not enough(?)) |
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| 06:10.48 | umarzuki | when will OO 3 be in the repo? |
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| 06:11.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's one of those "earlier when you help" type of questions, right? |
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| 06:12.36 | PeterFA | How do I manually issue a dhcp request? |
| 06:12.43 | PeterFA | Default install. |
| 06:13.43 | Magui | anyone? just a way to freeze or pause a window in KDE? any tips would be very helpful. |
| 06:14.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Magui, what is it you want to do? |
| 06:14.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I see |
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| 06:15.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | try #debian-kde, but I doubt there is a way to prevent windows from being killed |
| 06:15.11 | Magui | CutMeOwnThroat: OK. I just can't find a way to freeze that thing. it just closes too damn fast, and it spits out a paragraph of stuff before it closes. |
| 06:15.31 | Magui | oh. completely forgot about that channel. I'll try them. thanks. |
| 06:16.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Magui, run the program in strace - with the correct options, you will see how the w/k/x-term is called and with what options |
| 06:16.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... among 2 million other lines of output |
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| 06:17.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | PeterFA, apt-get install dcp-hclient; less /etc/dhclient-script and you'll know |
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| 06:20.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... sooner or later |
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| 06:24.36 | baalfrog | hmm, i seem to be having a problem with hexedit |
| 06:24.53 | baalfrog | it just shows zeros for files even a couple hundred MB |
| 06:24.58 | baalfrog | it used to work on my last system |
| 06:25.10 | baalfrog | i dont see what could be different, everything is from main |
| 06:25.34 | baalfrog | i used it on 40GBfiles before ok |
| 06:27.07 | Magui | CutMeOwnThroat: tried it with strace. when that dialog window closes, strace didn't show anything special. same error message popped up as the one I saw when running the program in the xterm. |
| 06:27.30 | Magui | well, I gotta go to bed now. I'll mess with this some other time.; |
| 06:29.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh |
| 06:29.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course not - normally has to be run with -f -F |
| 06:30.48 | baalfrog | hexedit works on a 20MB file but fails on a 200MB file, just displays all nulls |
| 06:31.09 | baalfrog | it didnt install any dependencies, i fail to see the problem, i used it fine on my last install on 40GB files |
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| 06:31.36 | baalfrog | sigh |
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| 06:36.10 | baalfrog | nvm appears to be working now |
| 06:36.19 | baalfrog | there's just a lot of nulls at the start of these isos :D |
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| 06:52.37 | superjoe30 | When I set a keyboard shortcut in gnome, I discover that my skip-track media key is 0x99. Is there a way to remap this in x11 to XF86AudioNext so that Amarok will recognize it? |
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| 06:57.11 | mhymn | superjoe30: xmodmap? xev? ... |
| 06:59.15 | superjoe30 | mhymn, awesome, xmodmap did just what I needed, thanks |
| 06:59.29 | mhymn | yw |
| 07:00.48 | roe_ | it is a little annoying that installing dovecot will remove courier and the reverse |
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| 07:09.50 | nxmehta | is there a way to list the files included in a package i haven't install yet with apt? |
| 07:10.25 | nxmehta | like being able to do dpkg -L before installing |
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| 07:11.05 | tarzeau | nxmehta: you can search for package contents on packages.debian.org |
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| 07:14.53 | nirupama | Hi have some data in excel sheet |
| 07:15.01 | nirupama | That is in some indian language |
| 07:15.21 | nirupama | when i conver the data into some other font of the same language |
| 07:15.24 | nirupama | I get garbage values |
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| 07:15.39 | nirupama | can anybody help me how to restore the data in the new font |
| 07:15.58 | tarzeau | nirupama: can you put the document online? |
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| 07:16.18 | nirupama | tarzeau, ok |
| 07:16.54 | nirupama | tarzeau, but what could be the reason |
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| 07:17.36 | tarzeau | nirupama: software problem, font problem, usage problem, decoding problem.... no idea |
| 07:18.32 | nirupama | tarzeau, I am not using any software for conversion |
| 07:18.51 | nirupama | tarzeau, can u mention any software name |
| 07:19.16 | nirupama | tarzeau, is there any font converter in debian |
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| 07:20.05 | r0ns | webmin is removed from debian? |
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| 07:20.35 | hifi | seems so |
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| 07:22.49 | superjoe30 | Why does gsynaptics tell me I need to set SHMConfig to 'true' when it already IS true? |
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| 07:26.44 | pgpkeys | Dok, I need to generate the version.h file normally found in /usr/src/linux/include/linux how do I properly generate this file so that it matches my running kernel on debian? (I know how to do it if I build my own kernel from scratch since the build process does that for my) |
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| 07:26.52 | pgpkeys | s/for my/for me/ |
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| 07:31.36 | nirupama | tarzeau, how to do the conversion of the database in one font to another font |
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| 07:50.01 | superjoe30 | why does gsynaptics tell me it can't work unless I set SHMConfig to true in my xorg.conf, when it clearly is in there, and I have restarted gdm? |
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| 08:07.02 | hjubal | hi, I wrote a rule to make udev create the device for my usb pen-drive but autofs does not mount it |
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| 08:07.23 | hjubal | these are autofs configuration files http://pastebin.com/d37d2a64, any idea? |
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| 08:12.45 | superjoe30 | it seems like X is ignoring my xorg.conf |
| 08:13.12 | superjoe30 | I even deleted the file, and the only thing that changed was that the login screen was in asdf, instead of dvorak like I configured it to in the installer |
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| 08:16.38 | Hiall | Hi, i'm trying to bind additional ip's to my debian server and have found a howto for redhat and the file is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo:n but I'm unable to find any help for debian except for /etc/network/interfaces but i that seems to bind to a device i'd rather just alias the ip.. anybody help? or tell me what i should search for? |
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| 08:19.09 | karsten | Hiall: IP aliasing is generally the easier thing to do. |
| 08:19.22 | karsten | Hiall: You want a single NIC to answer to multiple IPs and/or networks? |
| 08:19.39 | Hiall | Yea karsten |
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| 08:20.10 | karsten | Hiall: ifconfig eth0:1 <ip> -netmask <netmask> on |
| 08:20.23 | karsten | Hiall: .. eg. You can set that up in /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 08:20.32 | karsten | suspects there are samples.... |
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| 08:20.54 | Hiall | karsten, ah sorry just my provider said don't bind them to a device.. but i guess thats different |
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| 08:21.36 | karsten | Hiall: Um, what are you doing, who's your provider, and what's their specific Linux experience? |
| 08:22.18 | karsten | Hiall: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz, line 46 and following. |
| 08:22.41 | _coredump_ | moinsen |
| 08:22.50 | Hiall | karsten, i was just given additional ip's and now wish to use them but yea I'll look at nework interfaces ;) thankyou |
| 08:23.31 | karsten | Hiall: Terminology on Linux is to "alias" IPs to a nick. Binding generally refers to IPs or ports a service (eg: apache) listens to. |
| 08:24.18 | Hiall | ah ok was misunderstanding alias ;) |
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| 08:24.37 | Hiall | thanks alot |
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| 08:31.01 | karsten | Hiall: NP. |
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| 08:38.31 | greeq | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:41.01 | karsten | greeq: What's your GPU? |
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| 08:42.02 | phet | Hi, where can I know where something have been installed from aptitude? |
| 08:42.12 | greeq | nvidia |
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| 08:45.35 | saintiss | hi all |
| 08:45.42 | tuxcrafter | is there a way to search debian for newer but non released packages like lirc-0.8.4 |
| 08:45.49 | tuxcrafter | using debian sid |
| 08:45.57 | saintiss | how can I arrange for my wired connection to have dedicated DNS servers? I've got this in /etc/network/interfaces: |
| 08:46.08 | saintiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.08 | saintiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.14 | saintiss | but that doesn't seem to help |
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| 08:50.51 | saintiss | answer: apt-get install resolvconf :) |
| 08:51.21 | vipe | any idea if there is a max supported size of a vg or lv in lvm2 (in a number of TB's)? |
| 08:51.47 | Safri | hello, how can I run a task and keep it running after I close the window ? |
| 08:51.52 | Safri | I mean the terminal |
| 08:52.29 | naiv | phet, dpkg --contents (or something like that) /var/cache/apt/source/packetname |
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| 08:54.36 | naiv | tuxcrafter, take a look on lirc website for .deb packages, or with others apt sources like rarewares or so, but we don't know |
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| 09:01.00 | tuxcrafter | naiv: thanks i checked nothing there trying to build it myself but the package is blowing up in my face http://pastebin.ca/1228240 |
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| 09:06.18 | Vonoff | hi |
| 09:07.09 | Vonoff | i remember that there was a tool for managing the sources.list on he console, but i don't remember the name...could anyone remind me please? |
| 09:08.34 | greeq | can someone tell me how can i install nvidia 3d drivers on linux? |
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| 09:08.50 | greeq | on lenny that is |
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| 09:09.48 | SlayerXP | Vonoff: umm, "vi" |
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| 09:10.38 | Vonoff | SlayerXP, nah, don't want to hack it manually :P |
| 09:10.52 | _coredump_ | Vonoff, long time ag there was apt-setup |
| 09:10.56 | _coredump_ | *ago |
| 09:11.16 | tarzeau | greeq: you just download and install them? |
| 09:11.31 | Vonoff | is there a replacement for apt-setup? |
| 09:11.32 | tarzeau | greeq: i'm using: http://debian.ethz.ch/d-i/nvidia-driver |
| 09:11.39 | tarzeau | Vonoff: no, afaik |
| 09:12.34 | naiv | "hack it" ;p |
| 09:13.01 | naiv | tuxcrafter, i don't know you may be missing a file |
| 09:14.24 | tuxcrafter | naiv: no problem i just remove all other drivers |
| 09:14.27 | tuxcrafter | now its building |
| 09:14.34 | tuxcrafter | i am in hell last past 4 days |
| 09:14.41 | tuxcrafter | trying to get an bluetooth remote workign |
| 09:14.49 | tuxcrafter | have been recompiling half my system |
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| 09:15.09 | ma3x | hello |
| 09:15.35 | naiv | lol |
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| 09:19.37 | milligan_ | Oct 16 12:34:43 smtp postfix/smtpd[936]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] <- Using regex, how can I extract the ip that's located inside the [] when the date/time, localhost and ip are variable? |
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| 09:20.36 | simonrvn | how can localhost be variable? o_O |
| 09:21.10 | milligan_ | connections don't always come from localhost. |
| 09:21.46 | simonrvn | yes, but read your question. what are you trying to do? |
| 09:22.19 | themill | milligan_: you mean match: "connect from ([^\[])\[([\d.]+)\]" and hostname is $1 and IP is $2. |
| 09:23.12 | koollman | milligan_: easy way would be to take some code from any postfix log analyzer |
| 09:23.16 | milligan_ | themill, something like that. I only need the ip returned though. |
| 09:23.49 | simonrvn | milligan_: i'm sorry, i misunderstood |
| 09:24.11 | koollman | then just the \[([\d.]+)\] part |
| 09:24.21 | themill | milligan_: "connect from .+ \[([\d.]+)\]" (PCRE regexps... adjust to sed if that's what you're using) |
| 09:24.22 | koollman | doesn't that '.' require an escape too ? |
| 09:24.36 | themill | koollman: not inside [ ] |
| 09:24.39 | koollman | oh, right. |
| 09:24.47 | koollman | wouldn't make sense there, of course :) |
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| 09:28.27 | et | themill: the difference between the old and the new factoid is that the old one explicitely pulls nvidia-kernel-source (the new one only tells you about nvidia-kernel-common), and i had found my solution in my logs before i "complained". the complaint was about the unneccessary removal of information for no apparent reason |
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| 09:31.13 | themill | et: the m-a line should install nvidia-kernel-source for you |
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| 09:33.48 | et | themill: "explicitely" - i was just looking for version information, which isn't provided in -common. but as i said, i got that before i mentioned it - there's still no reason to delete information |
| 09:33.58 | themill | et: but if it doesn't then fixing the factoid would have been the better approach, no? There were 100s of out-of-date nvidia factoids and chealer (on oftc) was trying to clean them up. |
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| 09:35.41 | themill | et: I've added that package back in. Merry Christmas. |
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| 09:37.00 | et | themill: it's more about how cleaning up should work - like prepending "this factoid is likely to be outdated, see <...>" instead of replacing with "an old factoid" - that goes imo for anything that is just outdated and not dangerous |
| 09:37.22 | themill | et: yes, I was unimpressed with that too |
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| 09:38.55 | themill | dpkg: no, nvidia_post_etch is <reply> see nvidia |
| 09:38.55 | dpkg | okay, themill |
| 09:39.11 | themill | dpkg: no, nvidia_lenny is <reply> see nvidia |
| 09:39.12 | dpkg | okay, themill |
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| 09:39.44 | iunder | i get this error message when booting, the message days cannot do checkdisk on /dev/sda3 and prompts me to enter root password to repair or ctrl - D to carry on. I havent been able to find this error message in dmesg or in /var/log/.... |
| 09:39.56 | iunder | http://rafb.net/p/JiCbzq59.html |
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| 09:40.05 | iunder | my /etc/fstab |
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| 09:41.39 | iunder | and dmesg: http://rafb.net/p/eqmDBX32.html |
| 09:42.52 | iunder | this issue comes every time i boot, what can i do ? |
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| 09:43.37 | iunder | ^^^ the message "says" instead days :D |
| 09:44.32 | milligan_ | koollman, simonrvn , themill , basicly, what I want .. is a log utility that can tell me how many emails a spesific ip has sent ... parsing the mail.log. Do you know if there are any tools that does this already? I'm currently using pflogsumm, but that doesn't tell me pr ip .. it only gives stats based on sasl authenticated accounts.. and I have ips that are allowed to relay. |
| 09:45.31 | CVirus | Isn't there a an external not debian related repository that contains firefox packages ? |
| 09:45.50 | CVirus | Why isn't firefox included in non-free ? |
| 09:45.59 | pumpkin0 | i don't remember the name of a tool... it limits the maximal traffic a progam can cause. It was launched a bit like nice: "tool --rate=200K <prog-to-limit>". that's the name ... |
| 09:46.04 | bolt-work | milligan_: if the sent mail entry includes ip, you can just grep for it, then cut the ip and count |
| 09:46.12 | bolt-work | milligan_: all in a bash script |
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| 09:47.09 | pumpkin0 | CVirus: firefox is in the normal repos. It's just renamed and has a different icon. |
| 09:47.31 | CVirus | pumpkin0: I wanted vanilla firefo |
| 09:47.33 | CVirus | firefox* |
| 09:47.58 | milligan_ | bolt-work, yeah ... thing is, I need to count the amount of users the email is sent to aswell. I figured I could grep for the connects.. which is fine .. but if the connect has 20 users in the email sent, connects 5 times, I will only see 5 connects, when the user has sent 100 emails.. and that's no good. The send isn't tagged with an ip. |
| 09:47.59 | pumpkin0 | CVirus: download directly from mozilla. |
| 09:48.09 | CVirus | pumpkin0: thanks |
| 09:48.16 | simonrvn | yeh i'd do a simple sh script, run it once a day or however much is needed |
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| 09:49.53 | iunder | Are there any ideas how to solve my issue ? |
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| 09:51.20 | themill | CVirus: Mozilla Corp's rules about backported security patches make firefox unsuitable for use in a stable debian release in the same way that flash is not in a stable debian release. |
| 09:51.35 | themill | CVirus: (even in non-free) |
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| 09:53.16 | CVirus | themill: I see |
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| 09:55.07 | themill | CVirus: anyway, there's no real point in going for firefox over iceweasel. In fact there's a big disadvantage -- if you use firefox from mozilla.com, you have to manage your own security updates but if you use iceweasel, security support is just an aptitude update && aptitude upgrade away, which you should be doing regularly anyway. |
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| 09:55.45 | CVirus | themill: cool .. thanks alot |
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| 09:56.31 | jenesis | i can't seem to find the flashplayer for etch. someone know how to get flash? |
| 09:57.01 | wols | !tell jenesis about adobe flash |
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| 09:57.26 | themill | !coffee me |
| 09:57.26 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of hippy-blend Tanzanian for themill, courtesy of themill |
| 09:57.45 | themill | ahh... that's better |
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| 10:01.02 | jenesis | wols: you know the location of the file to apt sources? |
| 10:01.09 | jenesis | i used dselect. |
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| 10:05.58 | bolt | what's the simplest, free (beer) windows software that can burn a debian iso to a cd? |
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| 10:06.54 | mhymn | !googleit |
| 10:06.54 | dpkg | well, googleit is #debian is not your search engine. |
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| 10:08.22 | quink___ | @bolt http://www.google.com/search?q=iso+burning+windows and Nero or any other tool you most likely already have |
| 10:08.39 | wols | !tell jenesis about sources.list |
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| 10:10.03 | TwistOfFate | in debian, if i use an apt-get upgrade and download only..how do i install the downloaded packages later? |
| 10:10.59 | bolt | TwistOfFate: I think they end up in /var/cache/apt/ like the others |
| 10:11.06 | bolt | dpkg -i |
| 10:11.06 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, bolt |
| 10:11.20 | bolt | !botslap |
| 10:11.20 | dpkg | :( |
| 10:11.34 | TwistOfFate | hmmm |
| 10:11.37 | quink___ | apt-get -d |
| 10:11.49 | TwistOfFate | quink, doesn't that just tell it to download only? |
| 10:11.53 | TwistOfFate | i want to install the downloaded packages |
| 10:12.11 | quink___ | Just run apt-get again. |
| 10:12.17 | quink___ | It'll fetch them out of the local cache |
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| 10:12.32 | quink___ | Or dpkg -i |
| 10:12.45 | quink___ | Like bolt said. |
| 10:13.36 | TwistOfFate | thanks guys |
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| 10:19.28 | karsten | TwistOfFate: with apt-get, or with dpkg (to install individual packages). |
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| 10:21.07 | cire | This drives me crazy... two days without success. D945GCLF2 (Atom330) Board doesn't recognize PCI Card (Technisat Skystar 2.6) (not in lspci). This card works fine in another linux box. Any suggestions? |
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| 10:24.19 | funyun | can someone help me write a script? i need to rar about 100 files. but i need each in it's own rar file. can anyone help? |
| 10:26.42 | jelly | themill: "have to manage own security updates"? the browser warns you when a new version is released |
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| 10:27.43 | jelly | that makes managing a single click; easier than doing an upgrade |
| 10:29.10 | themill | jelly: it's still additional to what you'd have to do if you were running iceweasel |
| 10:29.49 | jelly | nope, iceweasel won't tell you when there's a security update |
| 10:30.20 | jelly | you have to set something up manually |
| 10:30.23 | themill | jelly: but you should be updating via apt regularly anyway hence having to do firefox as well is additional |
| 10:30.42 | jelly | that's just your PoV |
| 10:31.16 | themill | jelly: so your PoV is that you shouldn't be running aptitude update regularly? (or using update-notifier or cron-apt or something) |
| 10:31.18 | jelly | "should be updating" != everyone does it |
| 10:31.36 | CVirus | does aptitude use purge by default when removing a package from the TUI ? |
| 10:31.40 | jelly | at least with firefox you'll be told without making extra effort |
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| 10:32.00 | themill | jelly: but only for ff. So you either have a false sense of security or it's ignored by people. |
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| 10:32.20 | jelly | themill: it's not false; we _were_ discussing just that component |
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| 10:32.29 | hjubal | funyun: " mkdir out && find . -type f -exec rar a ./out/{}.rar {} \;" |
| 10:33.24 | themill | jelly: and if you have to manage that component separately to the rest of the system then that's additional work to do, which is what I said. |
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| 10:34.05 | jelly | it's managed automatically |
| 10:34.44 | themill | no, you are prompted automatically and it may or may not work depending on how you installed it to begin with. |
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| 10:35.02 | jelly | aptitude upgrade also may or may not work |
| 10:35.30 | funyun | hjubal: thank you |
| 10:35.39 | simonrvn | CVirus: um, _ is purge, so yeh, it does. |
| 10:35.45 | roe_ | mornin' all |
| 10:36.09 | CVirus | simonrvn: thanks |
| 10:36.15 | jelly | themill: I don't see the point. Keeping firefox updated is negligible effort, _and_ it keeps you informed unlike the default debian installation of iceweasel |
| 10:36.16 | themill | jelly: now we're moving into the bounds of craziness. If you installed ff as root then the autoupdate won't work; if you installed it as a user then it does. |
| 10:36.43 | themill | that's very different to saying that aptitude update might fail |
| 10:37.04 | jelly | it will also fail if you run it as user. |
| 10:37.52 | themill | jelly: but ff will tell you that you should update, click here to do so, then fail. |
| 10:38.15 | jelly | only if you installed it as root, which wasn't required in the first place |
| 10:38.55 | jelly | this devil's advocate thing is _fun_ |
| 10:39.26 | simonrvn | can be |
| 10:39.51 | themill | jelly: so you think it would be a good idea for every individual component on your system to phone home, find out if there's an update and offer to install it for the user each time? openoffice, gnome, xorg, vi, emacs, textutils, coreutils, kernel, ... |
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| 10:40.28 | jelly | themill: no, because we weren't discussing every component |
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| 10:40.47 | jelly | it was iceweaslo vs firefox |
| 10:40.52 | simonrvn | that would suck hard. might as well install winxp *shudder* |
| 10:41.30 | simonrvn | i like that new name, iceweaslo |
| 10:41.35 | voltage` | iceweasol is the development version of firefox |
| 10:41.50 | jelly | I'm perfectly fine with using debian for most apps, combined with a real upstream-supported browser. |
| 10:41.56 | d-b | hi there i'm using lenny and i'm getting more iritated with each new update. i don't get information about most of them through the update manager and... this is most alarming for packages such as gnugp2.... |
| 10:42.02 | themill | jelly: but you were singing the benefits of having components outside the package management system. So why not get rid of the package management system then and have them all update themselves if there are so many benefits for doing so. If it's good for one component (ff) then it must be good for the others. |
| 10:42.24 | themill | d-b: /msg dpkg apt-listchanges |
| 10:42.29 | d-b | also debian should have a table cross-referencing software you have aliases to packages vs security threats. -->iceweasel is outdated but i don't know if it was patched for x or y. |
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| 10:42.50 | d-b | themill: i did an online diff from the debian packages site for these packages and there was NONE. |
| 10:42.58 | jelly | themill: now you're putting words in my mouth, please keep to the topic, which was iceweaslo vs firefox |
| 10:43.17 | themill | d-b: that's in the package changelogs. Also /msg dpkg tracker of doom ; /msg dpkg debsecan |
| 10:43.31 | d-b | i have debsecan. |
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| 10:43.43 | simonrvn | WorksForMe |
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| 10:44.13 | d-b | thank you '_' think the tracker of doom is what i am after |
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| 10:45.29 | themill | jelly: and the thing that you wanted to discuss about iceweasel vs firefox was my comment that a weakness in firefox was that it didn't work with the package management system and forced you to update individual components separately. |
| 10:45.37 | jelly | themill: that is, a false generalization doesn't seem to me like a valid counter-argument to the fact that updating Mozilla Firefox has negligible additional effort, and a tangible benefit to having to update iceweasel (and the rest of the Debian OS) manually |
| 10:45.42 | voltage` | Having trouble mounting and using a newly added hard drive. can someone shed some light ? It's a 15 GB IDE showing up as /dev/hdb http://www.pastebin.ca/1228281 |
| 10:46.12 | themill | jelly: why is it a false generalisation? |
| 10:47.19 | hjb | voltage` How are you trying to mount it? |
| 10:47.32 | hjb | voltage` Through gnome's volume manager or something? |
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| 10:47.41 | themill | jelly: what is the benefit of having to update individual components separately? Aren't you really just saying that you want update-notifier installed by default? |
| 10:47.43 | simonrvn | unless you're borderline OCD, so manual updates won't bother you ;p |
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| 10:48.20 | voltage` | i formated via fdisk but I don't know the command to mount via command line so I tried computer/right click mount via gui |
| 10:49.02 | d-b | um that site ... security-tracker.debian.net is down |
| 10:49.15 | voltage` | it shows up under disks but all I get there is errors when I try to set mount point or enable |
| 10:50.29 | simonrvn | d-b: not for me |
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| 10:50.44 | simonrvn | "The data in this tracker comes solely from the bug database maintained by Debian's security team located in the testing-security Subversion repository. " |
| 10:50.45 | d-b | simonrvn: i'm tunneling to an exit in the us and its still not getting there |
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| 10:51.33 | voltage` | hjb http://www.pastebin.ca/1228284 |
| 10:51.41 | jelly | themill: right, if update-notifier was there by default, it would take away that advantage from ff |
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| 10:51.55 | voltage` | thats my fdisk -l output. it's dev hdb I'd like to setup and use |
| 10:52.23 | themill | jelly: (!xyproblem) it is with a default desktop installation of etch, isn't it? It gets pulled in with gnome. |
| 10:54.32 | jelly | themill: could be; I'm not using Gnome (or etch-on-a-desktop) |
| 10:56.20 | hjb | voltage` can you mount it as root? |
| 10:56.43 | voltage` | whats the command, think I got an error last time I tried but might of been sintax |
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| 10:57.26 | voltage` | mkdir /new-disk then mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /new-disk? |
| 10:57.40 | voltage` | well hdb1 in my case |
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| 10:58.16 | cire | what is the suggested "processor family" when building a kernel for intel atom? |
| 10:58.51 | idimmu | x64 |
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| 10:59.04 | voltage` | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 10:59.07 | jelly | cire: um... maybe ##kernel would know? |
| 10:59.15 | cire | thanks |
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| 10:59.28 | hjb | voltage` try without -t ext3 |
| 10:59.34 | voltage` | ok |
| 10:59.41 | hjb | voltage` are you sure you've created a filesystem on it? |
| 11:00.23 | voltage` | yeah that worked I think |
| 11:00.36 | hjb | voltage` What does "mount" syay now? |
| 11:00.39 | voltage` | got a window up says 13 GB Free man thanks (just don't have permission to write to it) |
| 11:00.47 | voltage` | no message just worked |
| 11:01.02 | voltage` | and a lost+found folder |
| 11:01.03 | hjb | voltage` no, if you execute it a second time without any args |
| 11:01.22 | voltage` | it worked without any args |
| 11:01.41 | simonrvn | he means literally `mount` |
| 11:01.49 | hjb | voltage` "mount" without any args shows a list of currently mounted filesystems ;) |
| 11:02.09 | voltage` | http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 11:02.29 | voltage` | I think I mounted it and just took out the ext3 |
| 11:02.42 | simonrvn | *headdesk* |
| 11:02.44 | hjb | voltage` what filesystem is actually on it? |
| 11:02.46 | r0ns | hi,am trying to execute a shell script which runs as a root in debian,but am getting..su must be run on a terminal |
| 11:03.08 | hjb | voltage` hint: there's something wrong with that pastebin link :-) |
| 11:03.35 | JPT | r0ns: maybe sudo might help you... |
| 11:03.36 | voltage` | http://www.pastebin.ca/1228288 lol |
| 11:03.58 | r0ns | let me try |
| 11:04.19 | hjb | voltage` hmm, i asked for the output of literal "mount" without args |
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| 11:04.37 | voltage` | standby |
| 11:04.42 | wols | voltage`: that's still utterly useless. is it too much to simply run "mount" and nothing else as told? |
| 11:05.24 | voltage` | http://www.pastebin.ca/1228292 there |
| 11:05.28 | simonrvn | !coffee voltage` |
| 11:05.28 | dpkg | decants a fine broth of fair trade Peruvian for voltage`, courtesy of simonrvn |
| 11:06.16 | hjb | voltage` ok, you've created an ext2 filesystem, not ext3, that's why the -t option didn't work |
| 11:06.35 | voltage` | ok, should I re-mount? |
| 11:06.42 | hjb | voltage` but doesn't matter, as mount is able to guess it correctly by itself :-) |
| 11:06.48 | hjb | voltage` no, that's fine |
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| 11:07.01 | voltage` | Ok, now how can I make it writable? |
| 11:07.13 | hjb | voltage` that's the second part of the question |
| 11:07.16 | voltage` | I think I can move stuff to it via root |
| 11:07.21 | hjb | voltage` first, umount /dev/hdb1 |
| 11:07.24 | voltage` | ok |
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| 11:07.41 | hjb | voltage` than read about "pmount.whitelist" in 'man pmount' |
| 11:07.55 | voltage` | rgr, brb |
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| 11:11.08 | hjb | voltage` rgr, brb?? |
| 11:11.14 | hjb | voltage` what does that mean :-) |
| 11:11.21 | voltage` | roger be right bace |
| 11:11.25 | voltage` | back |
| 11:11.28 | voltage` | ok read it. |
| 11:11.31 | hjb | voltage` ahh ok |
| 11:11.33 | voltage` | should I nano /etc/pmount.allow? |
| 11:11.44 | voltage` | and add my /dev/hdb to the list? |
| 11:12.21 | hjb | first, do 'grep hdb1 /etc/fstab' |
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| 11:12.31 | hjb | and then do what you've said |
| 11:12.52 | hjb | then you should be able to do pmount /dev/sdb1 as normal user and also write to it |
| 11:13.04 | voltage` | ok done, got pmount.allow up |
| 11:13.16 | voltage` | what do I add? just /dev/hdb1 it it's own lone? |
| 11:13.33 | hjb | right |
| 11:13.39 | hjb | just a single line /dev/hdb1 |
| 11:13.43 | hjb | thats all |
| 11:14.04 | voltage` | ok done now pmount /dev/hdb1 no sudo? |
| 11:14.09 | hjb | right |
| 11:14.14 | hjb | just as plain normal user |
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| 11:14.33 | hjb | no sudo |
| 11:15.06 | voltage` | well were almost there |
| 11:15.26 | voltage` | still can't write to it. said something in the man for pmount about adding a user |
| 11:15.56 | voltage` | adduser user plugdev? |
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| 11:17.04 | voltage` | (the user voltage is already a member of plug dev) |
| 11:18.21 | hjb | voltage` hmm, ok you can't write? |
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| 11:18.42 | voltage` | nope under drive properties it says owner root |
| 11:19.05 | voltage` | everything but write |
| 11:19.34 | voltage` | drwxr-xr-x |
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| 11:21.12 | voltage` | but I can access the drive |
| 11:21.13 | hjb | what does 'ls -l /media/sdb1' say? |
| 11:21.24 | hjb | voltage` access like, read? |
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| 11:22.07 | voltage` | No Such file or directory |
| 11:22.17 | voltage` | yeah I can view it just not copy stuff to it |
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| 11:22.30 | hjb | oh, ok. "mount | grep sdb" |
| 11:22.31 | voltage` | but I don't know if we spesified a mount point |
| 11:22.41 | voltage` | is that a pipe? | ? |
| 11:22.46 | hjb | yes |
| 11:23.11 | voltage` | done |
| 11:23.37 | hjb | ok, what output? |
| 11:23.48 | voltage` | just back to command line |
| 11:24.02 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ mount | grep sdb |
| 11:24.02 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ |
| 11:24.18 | hjb | voltage` oh shit, i meant 'pmount | grep sdb' :-) |
| 11:24.23 | naiv | Q: i used mkfs.ext4 on a new partition, and now that i want to mount it, mount says unknown filesystem type ext4, what the hell ? |
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| 11:24.25 | voltage` | haha |
| 11:24.30 | voltage` | should we umount? |
| 11:24.33 | hjb | voltage` ohh, hdb :-) |
| 11:24.40 | hjb | voltage` *** |
| 11:24.41 | voltage` | ok |
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| 11:25.20 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ pmount | grep /media/hdb |
| 11:25.21 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ |
| 11:25.23 | kombi | can't get procmail to work with exim, everything's completely generic. Must debian's exim be tweaked? |
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| 11:27.14 | hjb | voltage` ?? strange, try again with "mount" |
| 11:27.24 | hjb | voltage` oh, and only "hdb" not media |
| 11:27.32 | voltage` | ok |
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| 11:27.44 | glontu | hello |
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| 11:28.03 | glontu | how do i install the flash player plugin in iceweasel ? |
| 11:28.25 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ mount /dev/hdb |
| 11:28.25 | voltage` | mount: can't find /dev/hdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 11:28.25 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ |
| 11:28.38 | glontu | i keep clicking on the "install plugin" link that apperas but it's not installing anything |
| 11:28.48 | voltage` | try from command prompt |
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| 11:29.11 | glontu | voltage`, are you talking to me ? |
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| 11:29.29 | voltage` | nope was talking to that other dude |
| 11:29.34 | glontu | o |
| 11:29.38 | voltage` | kind of stumped why I can't write to this drive |
| 11:29.56 | voltage` | are you willing to go through the proper format/setup with me and start fresh? |
| 11:30.02 | hjb | voltage` "mount | grep hdb" or "pmount | grep hdb" |
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| 11:30.19 | hjb | voltage` one of them must produce output |
| 11:30.37 | micols | anyone has been booting linux/bsd/.. machines with jumbo frames enabled i can only get mine to boot with mtu1500, and mtu9000 works fine if i change it after boot, i am using the latest stable linux kernel from kernel.org, what can be wrong - i read that dhcp3 disabled "option interface-mtu xxxx;" ? |
| 11:30.37 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ mount | grep hdb |
| 11:30.37 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ pmount | grep hdb |
| 11:30.37 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:~$ |
| 11:30.50 | mhymn | glontu: check out the debian-multimedia.org |
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| 11:31.27 | micols | unfortunately i have to change it on all clients after boot, so it isnt a solution.. i need to first change it on the client then quickly change it on the server. |
| 11:31.29 | glontu | thanks mhymn |
| 11:31.36 | mhymn | np |
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| 11:32.20 | greeq | where can i find xserver-xgl compiz cant find xgl and when i end compiz my desktop stops working |
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| 11:33.31 | tobor | Hi, just switched a pair of SATA disks to a new box, and when I try to boot I get a message that a device "disk-by-uuid/some huge string of digits" is missing and it drops into a busybox shell instead of booting. Is there any way to reset this? |
| 11:34.49 | abrotman | greeq: xgl isn't in debian |
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| 11:36.12 | greeq | when i run compiz it says "Checking for Xgl: not present." |
| 11:36.14 | abrotman | greeq: xgl isn't in debian |
| 11:36.45 | naiv | so nobody use ext4 here ? (my mount doesn't know about ext4) |
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| 11:37.18 | greeq | then why doesn't compiz run? |
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| 11:37.45 | abrotman | greeq: read the whole log |
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| 11:38.47 | greeq | http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
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| 11:40.00 | abrotman | greeq: and what about it? |
| 11:40.33 | tobor | greeq, have you installed xgl on your system? |
| 11:40.50 | abrotman | greeq: which version of debian do you have? and which VGA card? |
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| 11:41.46 | ebilpanda | I upgraded from kernel 2.6.22-3-686 to 2.6.26-1-686 via aptitude. Now linux stops in mid-boot and displays "Begin: Waiting for root file system...". What do I do? |
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| 11:42.30 | abrotman | !waiting root |
| 11:42.30 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> |
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| 11:43.02 | ebilpanda | abrotman: thanks |
| 11:43.57 | tralala | it seems that blacklisting is not working properly with lenny |
| 11:44.09 | naiv | i don't understand why i can do mkfs.ext4 and then i can't mount it |
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| 11:47.32 | Usiu | Any help to compile sysprof? |
| 11:47.52 | ebilpanda | BBL |
| 11:48.11 | abrotman | tralala: blacklisting what? |
| 11:48.20 | abrotman | Usiu: ask enouf |
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| 11:49.14 | Usiu | enouf: Hi |
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| 11:49.33 | tralala | abrotman, framebuffer modules and snd-pcspk (or something0 |
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| 11:50.05 | tralala | Sebboh, update-alternatives |
| 11:50.11 | pozic | I get from my client to the Courier Imap mail server: "Could not verify this certificate because it has expired". The "server" is just on localhost. How can I get rid of the message? |
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| 11:50.37 | tralala | pozic, use a valid certificate |
| 11:51.01 | abrotman | tralala: initramfs blacklist ? |
| 11:51.21 | tralala | abrotman, it's not loaded in initrd |
| 11:51.30 | Sebboh | tralala: thanks |
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| 11:52.05 | pozic | tralala: right, and how do I get such a valid certificate? |
| 11:52.08 | tralala | abrotman, actually I don't know what's loading it. Maybe udev is probing the hardware or something, ignoring the blacklist |
| 11:52.27 | abrotman | !tell tralala about blacklist-initramfs |
| 11:52.33 | abrotman | !tell tralala about bell |
| 11:52.45 | abrotman | be so much better if that didn't get truncated |
| 11:52.48 | seba_ | ce nessuno che sa configurare counterstrike source su debian 4? |
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| 11:53.33 | abrotman | seba_: english or #debian-it |
| 11:53.34 | tralala | abrotman, I did inirtramfs balcklist. It didn't help. |
| 11:53.38 | kombi | someone tell me about .procmail.. as soon as I put an .forward into a home directory no mail arrives at all.. |
| 11:53.52 | kombi | regardless of the .procmail |
| 11:54.47 | sep | are there any tools that simplify the :: make list of needed packages on a host -> download them on a networked host -> and move them to the first host by sneaker net for installation ? |
| 11:54.48 | tralala | pozic, using openssl. There are examples how to create self-signed certificates |
| 11:55.33 | tralala | pozic, or maybe the imap server comes with some scripts to deal with the certificate |
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| 11:56.17 | tralala | sep, apt-zip |
| 11:57.18 | sep | tralala, thank you |
| 11:57.28 | tralala | sep, you're welcome |
| 11:57.30 | pozic | tralala: it is the courier server. |
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| 11:57.39 | tralala | pozic, I've never used it |
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| 11:58.14 | pozic | hates it when things stop working that shouldn't stop working... |
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| 11:59.09 | tralala | pozic, make sure to issue a certificate with a looong validity |
| 11:59.54 | tralala | pozic, investigate where the certificate came from. Perhaps the package has some scripts for generating certificates |
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| 12:00.27 | tralala | so if you reconfigure it or something it might renew it |
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| 12:01.07 | pozic | tralala: the certificate was created by me over a year ago when I went through the pain of setting up a mail server. |
| 12:01.23 | pozic | tralala: obviously I don't remember wth I did :) |
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| 12:01.37 | tralala | so it's all _your_ fault! |
| 12:02.24 | tralala | anyway make a certificate that will expire in year 2999 and let the future generations worry about y3k bugs |
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| 12:02.48 | voltage` | anyone know about how to handle permissions of user mountable drives in etch? I can't seem to write to a newly added/formatted/mounted hard drive |
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| 12:03.17 | tralala | voltage`, what filesystem? |
| 12:03.29 | voltage` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:03.42 | voltage` | ext2 |
| 12:03.45 | pozic | tralala: it is just a lack of APIs. The client should simply say: it looks like the certificate has expired, if you are the system administrator, press this button to renew it and then input your password... |
| 12:03.51 | kombi | "exec" command not found for address_pipe transport <- what do I need to install? |
| 12:03.52 | voltage` | ext3 on other drives but ext2 on the one I want to mount |
| 12:04.27 | abrotman | and the mount point has good perms ? |
| 12:04.29 | tralala | pozic, erm... that's not how certificates are meant to work. |
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| 12:04.45 | pozic | tralala: I know perfectly well about how certifcates work. |
| 12:04.47 | voltage` | I don't know it just shows up on my desktop |
| 12:04.51 | pozic | tralala: certificates* |
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| 12:05.04 | tralala | pozic, okay |
| 12:05.42 | tralala | voltage`, chown owner.group /media/hdb1; chmod <whatever> /media/hdb1 and you should be fine |
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| 12:06.36 | voltage` | thats quite the command, what do I have to substitute for whatever? |
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| 12:06.45 | tralala | voltage`, are you using an fstab entry or pmount for user mounting? |
| 12:07.01 | voltage` | tried both, mostly pmount |
| 12:07.16 | voltage` | brings up the drive just no write access |
| 12:07.29 | tralala | how many users are supposed to use the drive? |
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| 12:07.35 | voltage` | just me |
| 12:07.48 | voltage` | like to have it on every boot |
| 12:07.57 | voltage` | it's for media |
| 12:08.07 | tralala | chown youruser /media/hdb1; chmod 700 /media/hdb1 and remount it |
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| 12:09.26 | voltage` | no such file or directory |
| 12:09.37 | voltage` | It's /dev/hdb |
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| 12:10.39 | tralala | is the disk mounted? |
| 12:10.53 | voltage` | nope |
| 12:11.02 | tralala | you have to run the commands on the mount point when the disk is mounted |
| 12:11.10 | voltage` | ok so mount it first |
| 12:11.38 | voltage` | just pmount /dev/hda1 ? |
| 12:12.03 | voltage` | or do I have to give it a path like pmount /dev/hda1 /home/voltage/here |
| 12:12.23 | dustybin | are there any debian tools what are dedicated for the creation of rsa certs? |
| 12:12.30 | voltage` | (well hdb1) in my case |
| 12:14.38 | voltage` | now my mount command doesn't work. |
| 12:15.45 | dustybin | pmount ? |
| 12:15.50 | dustybin | try mount, make sure your root |
| 12:15.54 | voltage` | ok |
| 12:16.06 | voltage` | whats a good mount point though? |
| 12:16.22 | dustybin | mkdir /mnt/here |
| 12:16.51 | voltage` | i have a folder 14gbdisk on / |
| 12:16.51 | dustybin | mount /dev/<your device> /mnt/here |
| 12:16.57 | voltage` | ok |
| 12:16.58 | jelly | voltage`: "pmount hda1" will mount it in /media/hda1 if there is no fstab entry |
| 12:17.03 | dustybin | you might need to specify the filesystem |
| 12:17.16 | dustybin | mount -text3 /dev/<your device> /mnt/here |
| 12:18.57 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:/$ mkdir /mnt/14gbdisk |
| 12:18.57 | voltage` | mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/14gbdisk': Permission denied |
| 12:18.57 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:/$ sudo mkdir /mnt/14gbdisk |
| 12:18.57 | voltage` | voltage@linuxbox2:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/14gbdsik |
| 12:18.57 | voltage` | mount: mount point /mnt/14gbdsik does not exist |
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| 12:19.09 | voltage` | sprry |
| 12:19.39 | voltage` | shoot typo lol |
| 12:20.01 | voltage` | ok done |
| 12:20.17 | voltage` | it's mounted root access only (read only for user voltage)\ |
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| 12:21.43 | voltage` | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.33 | abrotman | voltage`: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 12:23.06 | voltage` | what will that do? |
| 12:23.48 | abrotman | you can't show us? |
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| 12:24.55 | voltage` | http://www.pastebin.ca/1228320 |
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| 12:28.51 | voltage` | that bad? |
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| 12:30.11 | zophy | when will lenny be stable ? |
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| 12:31.38 | bolt-work | !wiir |
| 12:31.50 | bolt-work | ?! |
| 12:31.52 | hjb | !wir |
| 12:31.53 | dpkg | i guess wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 12:31.56 | hjb | :-) |
| 12:31.59 | bolt-work | ah |
| 12:32.05 | bolt-work | stupid ' |
| 12:32.26 | hjb | voltage` did i got you right? you want to have the on every boot? |
| 12:32.27 | tralala | !wwlr |
| 12:32.28 | dpkg | Lenny(5.0) will release WIR; SIYH, hopefully in the second half of 2008. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html or lenny will not release until there are no more release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release:", or <lenny status> |
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| 12:32.54 | hjb | voltage` the *drive* |
| 12:32.55 | voltage` | ideally |
| 12:33.32 | voltage` | I just want to put 12 gig's of mp3's on there (my enitre cd collection) so I can use xmms to play my tunes back while chatting |
| 12:33.48 | voltage` | if I have to run something every boot from command thats ok but ideally just be another drive |
| 12:33.59 | H2S04 | voltage`, yuck XMMS ! |
| 12:34.01 | H2S04 | :P |
| 12:34.09 | hjb | voltage` ok, than you can't use pmount anyway |
| 12:34.09 | hjb | voltage` you just have to set up a proper entry in /etc/fstab and set the permissions right |
| 12:34.31 | voltage` | ok going to /etc |
| 12:35.02 | hjb | where'd said you've created your mountpoint? /14gbdisk? |
| 12:35.21 | voltage` | I have several now |
| 12:35.23 | hjb | better make one under /mnt, as that's traditionally the place for mounts |
| 12:35.46 | hjb | and remove the others :-) no need to have sparse directories lying around in / |
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| 12:36.05 | voltage` | /mnt/14gbdisk |
| 12:36.19 | hjb | good choice :-) |
| 12:36.29 | hjb | now edit /etc/fstab |
| 12:36.29 | voltage` | have to be root to do that just a sec |
| 12:36.37 | voltage` | ok got fstab up and backed up |
| 12:36.45 | hjb | yeah, for all of the following no need to be root :-) |
| 12:36.55 | hjb | put in the following line: |
| 12:37.48 | hjb | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/14gbdisk ext2 defaults 0 0 |
| 12:38.05 | Trewas | ext2/3 suck for usb-disks (if you want to use them in more than on computer) because the file/directory permissions are always wrong unless you happen to have same UIDs for users in every computer |
| 12:38.20 | voltage` | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/14gbdisk ext2 defaults 0 0 |
| 12:38.28 | hjb | Trewas is it an usb-disk? |
| 12:38.31 | voltage` | this is a 15 gb IDE drive |
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| 12:38.43 | voltage` | I live in the past lol |
| 12:38.58 | hjb | Trewas btw. what's abetter choice for usb disks? |
| 12:38.59 | Trewas | sorry, I thought it was some form of USB-disk because it was so small :) |
| 12:39.34 | Trewas | but I have seen some using ext2/3 for removable disks, and that's asking for headaches |
| 12:39.35 | voltage` | now do I reboot? |
| 12:39.37 | OpenTokix | Trewas: burn =) |
| 12:39.55 | hjb | voltage` no, no reboot needed :-) |
| 12:40.03 | hjb | voltage` your not on windows ;) |
| 12:40.15 | voltage` | haha still unlearning 7 years of windows bs |
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| 12:40.34 | voltage` | would of been better of to just learn linux from day 1, much easier |
| 12:40.41 | Trewas | hjb: there is really no good choice, vfat is probably easiest but 4GB filesize-limit can be annoying |
| 12:41.18 | m_dige | hi guys: I can remember how to enable pageUp and pageDown when logged in through a console/terminale |
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| 12:41.34 | hjb | Trewas or mount it with a proper umask? so that every file created is world readable/writetable? |
| 12:41.36 | m_dige | Is there I package I have forgotten to install |
| 12:41.49 | voltage` | do I have to /etc/init.d stop/start something here? |
| 12:42.00 | Trewas | hjb: umask is only for vfat, ext2/3 have permission stored in the disk for each file/directory |
| 12:42.30 | hjb | Trewas oh, i see |
| 12:42.40 | hjb | voltage` no, wait |
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| 12:42.47 | hjb | voltage` did you enter that line i've told you? |
| 12:43.00 | hjb | voltage` now, as root, do mount /mnt/14gbdisk |
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| 12:43.33 | hjb | voltage` what's your username on that box? |
| 12:43.48 | voltage` | voltage lol |
| 12:43.58 | hjb | :-D |
| 12:44.03 | voltage` | don't hack me it logs to lpt1 lol |
| 12:44.13 | voltage` | waists paper |
| 12:44.25 | hjb | cool |
| 12:44.48 | hjb | ok, back to your problem: now the disk is mounted, right? |
| 12:44.54 | voltage` | mounted correct |
| 12:45.15 | voltage` | /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/14gbdisk type ext2 (rw) |
| 12:45.22 | hjb | ok, now, as root, do: chown -R voltage:voltage /mnt/14gbdisk |
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| 12:46.13 | voltage` | haha it worked! |
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| 12:46.27 | hjb | voltage` can you access it as normal user and write to it? |
| 12:46.30 | hjb | fine :-) |
| 12:46.41 | voltage` | Get's his external drive spun up (Spin up the ftl drive voltage) hell yeah here comes me sabbath |
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| 12:47.34 | hjb | voltage` btw. does you desktop show the drive as symbol on desktop? |
| 12:47.52 | hjb | voltage` oh, i've never asked: which desktop are you running? |
| 12:47.54 | voltage` | rubs hands together |
| 12:48.02 | voltage` | just default Gnome |
| 12:48.16 | hjb | and, does it show as seperate disk symbol? |
| 12:48.17 | voltage` | yep it's there to. I can go /mnt or just double click from desktop |
| 12:48.24 | Vi^3PirePengy | hey i use virtualbox-ose and it was stable for the past month or so and for some reason in the freeze it had a major revision change again.... however i run a 686 kernel and aptitude wants to pull in a 486 one with 486 modules when tryin to reinstall virtualbox-ose |
| 12:48.26 | hjb | voltage` cool |
| 12:48.29 | Vi^3PirePengy | is this going to be fixed soon |
| 12:48.30 | voltage` | yeah 14 gb volume |
| 12:48.39 | Vi^3PirePengy | i cant overide the {a} |
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| 12:49.08 | hjb | voltage` congrats and have fun with all that space :-) |
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| 12:49.49 | voltage` | haha |
| 12:50.35 | voltage` | good old usb 1.1 just going wide open. Ahh there it is, the sounds of a 10 year old hard drive getting slowly cramed with tunes |
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| 12:51.11 | voltage` | whoever was making fun of xmms what do they recommend for gui baded tune playback (would like something with a np: plugin for irssi or xchat |
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| 12:51.37 | voltage` | hjb and others, many thanks btw |
| 12:53.02 | hjb | voltage` what's about xmms2 ? |
| 12:53.05 | maiquel | someone tell me if you know how I make the sign for MSN Hotmail? |
| 12:53.43 | voltage` | I installed that but haven't wrapped my head around it |
| 12:53.50 | voltage` | don't know how to add media to my library |
| 12:54.12 | rto | maiquel: Put your middle finger up in the air, and hold the rest of your fingers down |
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| 12:55.03 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: at a guess, you want to: aptitude install virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6-686 virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6-486- |
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| 12:55.17 | hramrach | voltage`: xmms2 is mostly commandline - probably not what you want |
| 12:55.28 | voltage` | well it may be hramrach |
| 12:55.28 | radioactivv | is debian a great distro, bug wise? desktop wise? that is, in your personal view |
| 12:55.32 | hjb | voltage` there's a gui for it: gxmms2 i think |
| 12:55.34 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: no i dont want any 486 modules or kernels |
| 12:55.36 | voltage` | I prefer the command line on older boxes |
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| 12:55.47 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: note the - at the end of the package name. That means remove |
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| 12:56.17 | hramrach | especailly since none of the frontends are quite finished you need 2-3 of them for different stuff |
| 12:56.26 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: ok i see ur dash for remove |
| 12:56.31 | Tapout | I'm installing debian using the netimg for etch (amd64) and I'm using unetbootin to put the image on my usb flash. When I go to boot, I always get Grub loader error 17 ... anyone have an idea? |
| 12:56.48 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: the + and - are always nice features |
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| 12:57.03 | voltage` | 152k of disk space I can handle that lol |
| 12:57.14 | hjb | voltage` didn't you asekd for gui based playback somewhere above? |
| 12:57.19 | micols | anyone running etch and can have a look in /etc/init.d for *udev* to help me out ?:) |
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| 12:57.26 | hramrach | hjb: it's very hard to add stuff with gxmms2, on the oether hand it is vera hard to manage playilists with the cli tool |
| 12:57.32 | micols | i accidentially did mv *udev* in that dir :) |
| 12:57.42 | micols | so lost "udev" |
| 12:57.45 | radioactivv | >is debian a great distro, bug wise? desktop wise? that is, in your personal view??? |
| 12:57.45 | voltage` | a few mins ago, someone else laughed at xmms |
| 12:57.58 | hjb | hramrach i've never tried it :-| i'm using gkrellxmms2 |
| 12:57.59 | themill | dpkg: tell radioactivv about polls |
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| 12:58.30 | hramrach | hjb: gxmms2 is gkrellxmms2 without the gkrellm |
| 12:58.38 | abrotman | radioactivv: just try it |
| 12:59.04 | themill | radioactivv: of course it's a great distro, what do you expect the people in #debian to say? |
| 12:59.05 | hramrach | well, plus a window with start/stop/progressbar |
| 12:59.38 | voltage` | as a newbie I love the package handling in debian and the support for older than dirt hardware. Can't say I prefer ubuntu over good old debian etc |
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| 12:59.51 | hjb | hramrach ahh, yes :-) looks exactly the same |
| 12:59.52 | radioactivv | no thats not what am asking! am asking is it stable bug wise & desktop wise |
| 13:00.00 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:00.10 | hjb | hramrach about the interface for adding files... i had trouble with it, too ;) |
| 13:00.31 | hramrach | radioactivv: for the clueless user Ubuntu is a better choice. For people who know something about linux Debian tends to be better |
| 13:00.46 | voltage` | I've had a debian firewall up (no gui) for 6 months on a 266 PII with 128 megs of ram and a 4 GB IDE and 2 nics. hasn't been rebooted yet |
| 13:00.53 | themill | radioactivv: of course it's stable and excellent for a desktop. But again, do you expect us to tell you anything other than that anyway? |
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| 13:01.15 | rto | radioactivv: the bugs are incredibly stable! |
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| 13:01.41 | radioactivv | hramrach thats what i wanted to kno -if its poweruser |
| 13:02.53 | voltage` | It's a better way to learn than ubuntu (but not as good as say bsd) |
| 13:03.11 | hramrach | radioactivv: if you can take apart stuff and put it together in different way then the choice of distro is less relevant. |
| 13:03.53 | hramrach | If you cannot you should choose one of the distros with 1-2 click install |
| 13:03.53 | hjb | radioactivv if you really want to put things together, go with LFS :-) |
| 13:04.02 | radioactivv | ok so on the download page there is the stable ver. and the testing ver. -testing ver includes KDE4 doesent it? |
| 13:04.15 | radioactivv | LFS = ? |
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| 13:04.35 | surrounder | radioactivv: put it in google |
| 13:05.12 | hramrach | radioactivv: you can only realiably install the stable version. The testing installer works only just after the snapshot has been uploaded and breaks shortly after. |
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| 13:05.45 | themill | dpkg: tell radioactivv about kde4 |
| 13:05.45 | hramrach | which means it's broken like 99% of the time |
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| 13:05.57 | radioactivv | thanks for the heads up hramrach |
| 13:06.23 | rto | radioactivv: But upgrading from stable to testing should be rather painless. |
| 13:06.29 | hramrach | well, maybe the full CDs would work but I always try to use some minimal install method |
| 13:06.45 | voltage` | got for the network boot cd if you have a dhcp server |
| 13:06.55 | hjb | hramrach really? I've always installed using the testing netinstall, but never had any probs |
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| 13:07.01 | voltage` | and a nic with native support |
| 13:07.38 | hramrach | hjb: it never finds the kernel modules on the debian mirror because the kernel in the archives is different from the one in the installer |
| 13:07.55 | flami | Hi, after fglrx 8.10 removed my libdri, I tried aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg-core, but that didnt bring it back. so now im trying to uninstall and the reinstall the xserver ... is there a way to remove it without aptitude getting all cranky about the dependencies ? |
| 13:08.28 | hjb | hramrach in that case, i always had a good portion of luck to download it at the right time :-) |
| 13:08.30 | hramrach | flami: if you want libdri just instal it. |
| 13:08.43 | radioactivv | so stable. there are 3DVDs. on the site. could someone tell me which year they were relesed |
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| 13:09.07 | hramrach | like -3y from now? |
| 13:09.09 | radioactivv | *released |
| 13:09.16 | flami | well it is in the xserver-xorg-core package. which wont install it when i try reinstall :/ |
| 13:09.17 | rto | hjb: Isn't it because you use the netinst method (as i do), where the kernel and modules are on the CD. |
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| 13:09.40 | hramrach | flami: it's in the libdri package |
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| 13:10.03 | flami | uh :P hum then i guess i missed somethin |
| 13:10.05 | hjb | rto hmm, i try to remember ... last install was some time ago |
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| 13:10.21 | Tapout | is it usual for the debian installer to poll network hardware for like 10 minutes? |
| 13:10.27 | hjb | rto wasn't there a choice to use the kernel from the install cd for the system? |
| 13:10.37 | rto | hjb: I think i have a woody-testing cd lying around that i used to save a box some time ago - still worked great. |
| 13:10.39 | radioactivv | meaning ---that theyr packages are wayy out of date? |
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| 13:10.53 | voltage` | there is a flag before you install if you want to use 2.4 for example |
| 13:10.56 | themill | radioactivv: no, meaning that they are stable. |
| 13:11.03 | hramrach | radioactivv: yes but you can upgrade or use backports |
| 13:11.21 | rto | hjb: That could very well be, i usally just hit enter until i get to the place where i can start using aptitude. |
| 13:11.36 | hjb | rto hehe, nice strategy :) |
| 13:11.45 | voltage` | yeah I have a fresh etch install comes with open office 2.0 for example |
| 13:11.51 | hramrach | themill: some of them are stable but many are just outdated |
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| 13:12.31 | themill | hramrach: not really. Stable is what is designed for users to use. It is well understood, the bugs have been shaken out of it and deficiencies documented. |
| 13:12.55 | hjb | voltage` that's a good example for freah as oo 3 has been released recently ;) |
| 13:13.19 | hjb | *fresh* |
| 13:13.38 | hramrach | themill: but I need video-intel 2.4 !!! |
| 13:13.56 | voltage` | yeah, thats what came on my install I'm sure I can upgrade |
| 13:14.05 | voltage` | need a spell checker lol |
| 13:14.50 | themill | hramrach: by need, I presume you mean want. And there are backported intel video packages for etchnhalf that covers most hardware quite nicely |
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| 13:14.57 | hjb | voltage` nah, that was just a joke. oo 3 is still only available in debian experimental branch |
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| 13:15.09 | hjb | voltage` didn't even made it into unstable |
| 13:15.12 | voltage` | yeah. could a fella get 2.4? |
| 13:15.23 | themill | dpkg: tell voltage` about bpo |
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| 13:16.30 | hramrach | themill: without that the DVI output on recent Intel boards does not work. And yes, it's in experimental and can be backported to testing quite easily ;-) |
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| 13:18.41 | voltage` | sweet |
| 13:19.28 | hjb | dtw. is the dpkg bot on this channel the same one that's on the oftc debian channel? |
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| 13:19.43 | themill | hjb: yes |
| 13:20.09 | jelly | themill: the exact same process connected to both? |
| 13:20.23 | jelly | themill: I couldn't figure out how to do that with blootbot |
| 13:20.25 | themill | jelly: no, but same database |
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| 13:21.27 | PigeonGB_2 | If it has been awhile since I updated/upgraded my Debian Testing system, and apt says "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" do I need to update my key, or is it something else? |
| 13:21.50 | hjb | btw. how to prick a bot? dpkg says it will oil than :-) |
| 13:22.35 | abrotman | PigeonGB_2: just continue .. should update your keyring |
| 13:22.47 | abrotman | (though if it's been that long you may have probelms updating anyway) |
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| 13:23.17 | voltage` | aptitude install debian-backports-keyring |
| 13:23.29 | voltage` | or whatever one your using |
| 13:23.36 | abrotman | uh ... |
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| 13:24.35 | PigeonGB_2 | Well, my main desktop stopped accepting input and my open shells showed kernel messages, although none said oops or anything like that. |
| 13:24.43 | PigeonGB_2 | But since I couldn't do anything, I rebooted. |
| 13:24.50 | PigeonGB_2 | And now I'm thinking that it is possible I was rooted. |
| 13:25.06 | PigeonGB_2 | So I'd like to be careful just accepting unverified packages. |
| 13:26.26 | hjb | PigeonGB_2 If you've been rooted, aren't there bigger problems than installing unverified packages isn't |
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| 13:27.12 | hjb | I mean, you can't trust your machine at all, packages beeing verified or not |
| 13:27.20 | PigeonGB_2 | hjb: True. |
| 13:28.19 | PigeonGB_2 | Ah, there was a kernel oops. I see it in /var/logs/syslog |
| 13:28.24 | hjb | there's chapter in debian security manual which tells what do in those cases |
| 13:28.57 | PigeonGB_2 | A NULL pointer dereference in the kernel. *sigh* |
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| 13:30.31 | hjb | PigeonGB_2 What have you been doing when that happened? |
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| 13:31.06 | PigeonGB_2 | I was sleeping. I had "at" run at 6AM with the command "xmms -p" |
| 13:31.10 | PigeonGB_2 | And music was playing. |
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| 13:31.18 | PigeonGB_2 | I stayed in bed instead of getting up. |
| 13:31.23 | PigeonGB_2 | Then I noticed it was quiet. |
| 13:31.36 | PigeonGB_2 | So I checked, and xmms was frozen, and I could switch between virtual desktops. |
| 13:31.41 | PigeonGB_2 | But then that stopped working, too. |
| 13:31.46 | jelly | so it succeeded in waking you up! |
| 13:31.55 | hramrach | PigeonGB_2: staying in bed is dangerous. The worst stuff happens while staying in bed ;-) |
| 13:32.04 | jelly | and still you complain. Tsk. |
| 13:32.12 | PigeonGB_2 | The machine was still working in that my web server was running and I can see XChat updating. |
| 13:32.16 | PigeonGB_2 | B-) |
| 13:32.21 | hjb | mission accomplished :-) system self-destruction started :-P |
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| 13:32.29 | PigeonGB_2 | Hooray |
| 13:32.59 | jelly | !kerneloops |
| 13:33.09 | jelly | judd: info kerneloops |
| 13:33.55 | themill | judd: versions kerneloops |
| 13:33.55 | judd | themill: kerneloops: 0.10-2 (lenny) 0.10-2 (sid) |
| 13:34.08 | themill | stew: judd not liking "info" at the moment? |
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| 13:35.53 | hjb | PigeonGB_2 are there any signs of a break in? logs ... |
| 13:36.04 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here know of a good network usage grapher? |
| 13:36.30 | hramrach | gkrellm ;-) |
| 13:36.34 | PigeonGB_2 | hjb: Nope. Thank goodness. |
| 13:36.59 | hjb | PigeonGB_2 Not sure, attacker may have manipulated them |
| 13:37.23 | hjb | Or are you doing facist logging to lpt1, as voltage` does? |
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| 13:37.34 | PigeonGB_2 | True, it's not entirely possible that nothing happened. |
| 13:37.36 | voltage` | lol |
| 13:37.49 | voltage` | damn printer wakes me up all hours of the night |
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| 13:38.09 | voltage` | thats what happens when your domain is hackthis.zapto.org |
| 13:38.13 | voltage` | (or was) |
| 13:38.33 | hjb | good choice of a domain name :-P |
| 13:38.34 | Led_Zeppelin | well, I have 50 servers and I would like to get their network bandwidth using SNMP. Since SNMP is lightweight. Not sure what the best way to go.... |
| 13:38.59 | hjb | Led_Zeppelin hmm, wait, i try to remember |
| 13:39.25 | Led_Zeppelin | i got to use snmp though (eventhough I don't know jack about it) |
| 13:39.26 | hjb | Led_Zeppelin What's about nagios? |
| 13:39.50 | enouf | Led_Zeppelin: etherape might be what you want |
| 13:39.51 | Led_Zeppelin | see for nagios I need to install a client. I already have a snmpd server running don't need any more |
| 13:40.10 | hramrach | Led_Zeppelin: there are several solutions for making graphs from snmp although I don't recall the name of any of them |
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| 13:40.38 | Led_Zeppelin | "SNMP" so much for being simple. Been googling around for days trying to understand it. Hehe |
| 13:40.59 | Led_Zeppelin | I liked cacti, but its not consitend. rrdtools is a hack. |
| 13:41.10 | Led_Zeppelin | mrtg is nice, but I have no idea how to get my community setup |
| 13:41.21 | hjb | If you're really not sure, you should follow http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-after-compromise.en.html |
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| 13:43.05 | hramrach | Led_Zeppelin: if you can get a dump of the data from the snmpd then you can use just about anuthing that can graph - R, gnuplot, ... |
| 13:43.22 | Led_Zeppelin | hramrach, AGREED! |
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| 13:43.28 | Led_Zeppelin | hramrach, are you a snmp pro? |
| 13:43.41 | hramrach | no, I do not use it at all |
| 13:43.49 | zamba | i want to find all active machines in my network, even those that block ping.. is it possible using nmap? |
| 13:43.50 | Led_Zeppelin | i like the "R" or "GnuPlot" idea |
| 13:44.07 | themill | !plotting |
| 13:44.07 | dpkg | There are a lot of good Free Software plotting packages that will produce plots of data or equations that are suitable for publication. These include grace, gri, pyx, labplot, qtiplot, gnuplot, r-base, ... See http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2005/10/msg00053.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2006/04/msg00004.html for ideas and reviews. |
| 13:44.14 | hramrach | Led_Zeppelin: I think most people use mtrg or nagios or the like |
| 13:44.26 | hjb | Led_Zeppelin oh, than i can really recommend ctioga as gnuplot replacement |
| 13:44.34 | Led_Zeppelin | mrtg is nice |
| 13:44.40 | hjb | makes absoljutel stunning graphs :-) |
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| 13:45.30 | hramrach | zamba: it is possible if you run ntop on the router. |
| 13:45.42 | hramrach | or tcpdump ar whatever |
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| 13:45.55 | Led_Zeppelin | hjb, nice. |
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| 13:46.21 | hramrach | But if the macine is good at blocking incoming traffic you cannot detect it actively, only by spoofing the data they send |
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| 13:47.26 | hramrach | zamba: which is exactly what ntop is designed to do for you, with nice colourful web interface |
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| 13:49.32 | hramrach | Led_Zeppelin: I think the reason fo using the integrated network tools is performance - they cache the graphs and only generate a new one once in a while so many people can look at them ovet the web without overloading the server |
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| 13:51.36 | Tapout | sigh, why doesn't the installer find : debian-40r4a-amd64-netinst.iso ... |
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| 13:51.57 | Tapout | using hd-media's boot file on usb, and with the *.iso file on the usb flash, it doesn't detect the *.iso |
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| 13:52.09 | Tapout | i recall having this issue over a year ago, but forget what I had to do |
| 13:53.37 | hramrach | Tapout: i'd unpack or mount the iso. I guess the installer is looking for the content of the iso, not for the iso |
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| 13:54.56 | Tapout | After that, mount the USB memory stick (mount /dev/sda /mnt), which will now have a FAT filesystem on it, and copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it (see Section 4.3.3, Adding an ISO image). Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done |
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| 13:55.10 | Tapout | based off the instructions, it wants the *.iso file .. and the installer says it's looking for a *.iso |
| 13:55.32 | Led_Zeppelin | hramrach, yah, i like mrtg |
| 13:57.47 | hramrach | Tapout: well, then it's broken. Aren't there usb images of the installer already? |
| 13:59.05 | Tapout | says to get .. hd-media's boot file, zcat it.. copy *.iso over, ... |
| 13:59.13 | Tapout | i'm thinking I should rename the *.iso to .. mini.iso or something |
| 13:59.16 | Tapout | maybe it's the name |
| 14:00.03 | hramrach | Led_Zeppelin: there seem to be quite a few howtos for configurin mtrg on the web. |
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| 14:02.58 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 14:03.00 | enouf | Tapout: might want to try to list output of 'mount' , maybe mount the usb key at /target/something |
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| 14:03.27 | SamuraiDio | instead of cating some lines at end ot /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, i can just add another file under /etc/modprobe.d, right? |
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| 14:04.08 | enouf | Tapout: i thought you might need the ISO either on HDD or a real burned CD, i forget the prerequisites, but the installer guide mentions them, IIRC |
| 14:06.00 | Tapout | enouf, I'll burn the cd here in a minute if this doesn't work.. I'm trying to not have to hook up the cdrom :( |
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| 14:08.43 | SolarSeed | hello people... i got a problem with my nokia handy to pc datatransfer |
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| 14:08.50 | SolarSeed | could someone help please? |
| 14:08.58 | abrotman | which OS? |
| 14:09.12 | bunnyto | win2k8 |
| 14:09.19 | SolarSeed | debian/gnu linux lenny... http://phpfi.com/365276 <- and thats what dmesg says |
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| 14:09.52 | abrotman | and what's the problem? |
| 14:10.07 | abrotman | looks like it set it up as sde |
| 14:10.09 | SolarSeed | can't view or transfer anything via usb-masstorage |
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| 14:12.35 | enouf | Tapout: righto - keep us posted |
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| 14:13.59 | jim_home | whats the default cron daemon configuration? |
| 14:14.46 | abrotman | it uh .. runs stuff at the appropriate time |
| 14:14.53 | abrotman | what else do you want to know? |
| 14:15.51 | d-b | cron. |
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| 14:17.45 | jim_home | oh the cron process is running but it's not running anything |
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| 14:18.33 | hramrach | jim_home: yes, that's what it does most of the time |
| 14:18.50 | screamingbytes | does anyone know what file contains the list from the "Select" menu on the login page? |
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| 14:19.32 | tmp_ | jim_home: Normally it's idle and looks in the /etc/cron.*/ directories for scheduled events. |
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| 14:20.06 | hramrach | screamingbytes: if you mean the gdm login screen and the session/language selection it is not in a single file |
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| 14:20.39 | hramrach | rather each session manager installs its file and gdm includes it in the list |
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| 14:21.39 | SamuraiDio | what packages do i need to install to use OSS4? |
| 14:21.40 | jim_home | tmp_: yeah I have my crontab installed |
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| 14:22.00 | tmp_ | Is there a difference between the gutenprint and foomatic drivers for CUPS? |
| 14:22.23 | hramrach | yes, each has drivers for different printers |
| 14:22.28 | screamingbytes | hramrach: yes thats what I mean |
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| 14:22.55 | screamingbytes | hramrach: I have blackbox listed 3 times and Gnome listed 2 times as well as other stuff |
| 14:23.22 | hramrach | screamingbytes: look for .desktop files installed by blackbox |
| 14:23.26 | funyun | i need to take screenshots of about 100 vids in one folder. the perl script command i use is "./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13". does anyone know how i can get it to take screenshots of all 100 vids? |
| 14:23.49 | hramrach | screamingbytes: they are in a Session(s) directory somewhere |
| 14:23.49 | quitte | hi. any idea how i can make multiple packages from one source package and making sure that a file doesn't end up in two packages? |
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| 14:24.06 | H2S04 | ls |
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| 14:24.30 | bolt-work | funyun: cd movies && for vid in *; do <whatever>; done |
| 14:24.38 | tmp_ | hramrach: Not in the range of printers I'm looking at. |
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| 14:25.10 | bunnyto | i never tried to print on linux |
| 14:25.22 | bolt-work | did |
| 14:25.25 | bolt-work | horrible experience |
| 14:25.38 | bolt-work | no longer owns a printer |
| 14:25.42 | bunnyto | yeah, thats why i gave up on paper, im 100% digital |
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| 14:25.59 | hramrach | tmp_: then try one, and if it does not work try the other. Some printers aren't supported equally well in both |
| 14:26.07 | idimmu | printing on linux is fucking easy |
| 14:26.18 | tmp_ | hramrach: Both foomatic and gutenprint have drivers for each printer I'm working with. So is there a difference? Like, is one getting developed while the other has been abandoned? |
| 14:26.19 | idimmu | unless you are a retard |
| 14:26.38 | idimmu | half of it is getting the right printer tbh, which is a little lame |
| 14:26.39 | wols | tmp_: how should we know? |
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| 14:27.02 | funyun | bolt-work: like this? "cd movies && for vid in *; do ./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 ; done" |
| 14:27.05 | wols | idimmu: and the right program to print from. e.g. evince vs. acrobat reader |
| 14:27.05 | thebeerhunter | hi, anyone know if there is a tool that replace man w/ a tool that grabs the man pages from the net? (a tool that can use manpages.debian.net?) |
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| 14:27.32 | et | funyun: a reference to $vid is missing |
| 14:27.33 | liable | thebeerhunter: why? |
| 14:27.35 | idimmu | wols yeah picking that helps! |
| 14:27.39 | idimmu | its not windows easy |
| 14:27.45 | idimmu | but its not a nightmare |
| 14:27.56 | bolt-work | idimmu: and for not buying a linux-compatible printer way before you decided to print on linux, or not having your boss buy a linux compatible printer, one is clearly a retard. fantastic thinking |
| 14:27.57 | funyun | et: ?? |
| 14:27.59 | tmp_ | wols: I don't know. I was just asking on the chance that somebody here might know. |
| 14:28.17 | idimmu | bolt-work: moving to linux is the retarded part of that statement dude :p |
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| 14:28.32 | tobor | wtf? what in gods name is a linux compatible printer? |
| 14:28.46 | bunnyto | printing on linuy is a quimera |
| 14:28.58 | tobor | a printer is a printer. |
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| 14:29.06 | wols | tmp_: read your question again and then think hard why it is.... unwise to ask it |
| 14:29.08 | et | tobor: and it needs drivers |
| 14:29.23 | screamingbytes | try the lpr and lpq commands |
| 14:29.26 | screamingbytes | there fun |
| 14:29.30 | hjb | tobor depends. like humans, there are intelligent and stupid printers ;) |
| 14:29.53 | hjb | tobor linux tends to better support the intelligent ones |
| 14:30.10 | tobor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.11 | thebeerhunter | liable, I'd like to be able to query a cgi script for man pages rather than eat up my precious hard disk space |
| 14:30.20 | jim_home | most hp printers are supported |
| 14:30.21 | hjb | tobor what's not really the fault of the stupid ones, but there parents :-) |
| 14:30.25 | funyun | et: i don't understand what you mean? |
| 14:30.28 | idimmu | tobor: what youve said doesnt make sense |
| 14:30.36 | et | funyun: i mean that your loop does not make sense. |
| 14:30.45 | H2S04 | hjb, s/there/their/ |
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| 14:30.53 | themill | tobor: there are an awful lot of printers that don't do much at all under linux. |
| 14:30.54 | funyun | et: can you give me one that does? |
| 14:30.56 | idimmu | tobor theres spending an entire day to configure a printer, and theres spending 5 minutes |
| 14:30.56 | hjb | H2S04 da** right :) |
| 14:31.05 | et | funyun: how should i know? |
| 14:31.23 | gleesond | Do I need to have NIS on my network to not have to authenticate between machines? |
| 14:31.25 | tobor | hjb: i have an epson dot mastric printer here, they dont get any dumber (well a dasiy wheel maybe), that epson is supported by Linux, but it knows nothing about Linux (it was made in 1983). Its not "linux compatible" |
| 14:31.33 | tobor | *matrix |
| 14:31.47 | tobor | its just a printer. |
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| 14:31.57 | liable | thebeerhunter: your hard disk space is really that small? in the age of ever incrising disk size, you really cant afford a few MB's for gunzipped text files? |
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| 14:32.05 | hjb | tobor ok, that's not *excactly* what i''ve meant by stupid |
| 14:32.26 | hjb | tobor that ones you could even attach some switches and wires and toggle him what to print |
| 14:32.30 | themill | tobor: dumb isn't a problem... there are now "win printers" like the "win modems" that require the host operating system to do work for them and speak to them in a particular language. |
| 14:32.34 | tobor | hjb, i kinda thought so. :-) |
| 14:32.38 | tmp_ | jim_home: User crontab? |
| 14:32.39 | funyun | et: i don't know.. i just know that i don't know. |
| 14:33.09 | thebeerhunter | liable, yes |
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| 14:33.27 | liable | thebeerhunter: your a wanker then |
| 14:33.28 | tobor | themill: Ja, but again the issue there is having the right driver/printer filter software. Those printers aren't incompatible withlinux. |
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| 14:33.37 | hjb | tobor Would really love to try it, now that i'm thinking about it :-) |
| 14:33.59 | hjb | tobor I#ll go down to the basement and get my commodere mps-801 out there ;) |
| 14:34.09 | thebeerhunter | liable, haha... you must be from that country |
| 14:34.23 | funyun | et: "./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 movie.avi" is how i take screenshots individually. |
| 14:34.33 | tobor | I still have my "dip switch" paper clip kept handy. :-) |
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| 14:34.51 | hjb | hehe |
| 14:35.12 | screamingbytes | hramrach: I found them ty |
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| 14:35.38 | screamingbytes | hramrach: Ill start playing with them to see which ones to remove |
| 14:35.48 | tobor | and i just got a free box of tractor feed paper off freecycle, Time to make Birthday party signs! |
| 14:35.48 | hjb | tobor yeah, but to get a "right" driver/filter, someone has to reverse engineer their windows pendant |
| 14:36.10 | hjb | tobor which noone seems to do in many cases |
| 14:36.45 | hjb | tobor oh, your member of freecycle? me too :-) |
| 14:36.48 | hjb | *wave* |
| 14:36.56 | tobor | hjb: yes, i reccomend extraditing the Windows software people who wrote the drivers for "special rendition" |
| 14:37.02 | jim_home | tmp_: no actually the main crontab..as root I used crontab -e |
| 14:37.05 | idimmu | tobor would it be fair to say your dot matrix has good linux support because it is so old? either because it adheres to a standard interface designed way back, or because 20 years have gone by so linux development has been done for it?! |
| 14:37.12 | jim_home | they show up when I run crontab -l |
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| 14:37.15 | tobor | hjd, they will leasrn that sharing the code is better... |
| 14:37.37 | jelly | thebeerhunter: I can make that script for you for 50 EUR, which will be donated to spi-inc for the debian project, that should cover the expenses if you don't make excessive lookups |
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| 14:38.02 | funyun | i need to take screenshots of about 100 vids in one folder. the perl script command i use is "./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 video.avi". does anyone know how i can get it to take screenshots of all 100 vids? |
| 14:38.42 | tobor | idimmu: mostly its well supported becaue (A) the manual it comes with publishes all of its control codes wo the "HOW TO" of controlling it is public information, and (B) pretty much all Epson's worked the same way. |
| 14:38.42 | jelly | funyun: a simple for loop in the shell will do the trick |
| 14:38.57 | themill | tobor: only if such a filter exists. Have a look on the openprinting website at how many printers do not have such filters in existence. |
| 14:38.59 | hjb | tobor but china's soo big and there're a *lot* of ppl ;) |
| 14:39.04 | funyun | jelly: cool. can ya help me with that? |
| 14:39.07 | tobor | idimmu: if the people making the win printers would just publish thye control interfaces, they would be quickly supported too. |
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| 14:39.20 | jelly | funyun: eg. for filename in *.avi; do something with ${filename}; done |
| 14:39.27 | idimmu | tobor thats like my point :) |
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| 14:39.42 | wols | tobor: and if humans were nice we could have heaven on earth |
| 14:39.55 | wols | tobor: not to mention it's a bit more complicated than you imagine |
| 14:39.59 | tobor | idimmu: you could cover that with a nice hat... (your point.. :-) ) |
| 14:40.10 | idimmu | i know we use linux dude, but im not up for abstaining from sex or banning lesbians any time soon wols :o |
| 14:40.21 | idimmu | tobor: :) |
| 14:40.32 | tobor | wols: bullcrap, being competitive is what makes human progress happen |
| 14:40.41 | thebeerhunter | jelly, thanks, but no thanks... It's seriously < 10 lines in python |
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| 14:40.49 | thebeerhunter | jelly, 1 in perl |
| 14:41.14 | funyun | jelly: i'm not sure what you mean? |
| 14:41.25 | tobor | wols: Note - I have been doing this for30+ years. Writing win-style drivers for incompetent hardware is not complicated. |
| 14:41.39 | wols | tobor: then do it ans apare us your drivel |
| 14:41.42 | wols | *and |
| 14:41.50 | hjb | tobor then just do it! |
| 14:41.53 | hjb | tobor :) |
| 14:42.02 | tobor | wols: sure, just get me the documentation on the control interfaces. |
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| 14:42.19 | hjb | tobor now the complicated part comes :) |
| 14:42.20 | wols | tobor: there is plenty of stuff one has the docs and needs drivers... |
| 14:42.23 | tobor | and one of the printers totest with |
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| 14:42.47 | wols | this is getting OT I guess |
| 14:43.05 | themill | tobor: what documentation on the control interfaces? |
| 14:43.11 | dqn | question - how can i display a list of whatis on EVERYTHING that has a whatis line? |
| 14:43.12 | hjb | wols do you think it would be good for debian to support more printers? |
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| 14:43.21 | wols | hjb: it would be good for linux |
| 14:43.40 | tobor | themill: that seems to be the core of the problem. Most Win-devices control interfaces are not published |
| 14:43.45 | endeavormac | I'm setting up a dhcp server on device tap0. I have edited /etc/init.d/dhcp and set INTERFACES="tap0" so tap0 should be the only interface dhcpd is concerned with. When I /etc/init.d/dhcp start, I get an error telling me i need to write a subnet declaration for another interface. If I have a subnet interface for tap0, isn't that the only one I need? I don't want to run a dhcp server on any other interfaces. |
| 14:43.46 | hjb | wols would be good for the whole oss community |
| 14:44.26 | themill | tobor: right. So perhaps you can see why some hardware is not linux compatible now. |
| 14:44.27 | tmp_ | jim_home: As far as I know there shouldn't be a problem. On the other hand, I'm not sure how the extension for having root crontabs in /etc/cron.d/ interacts with that. |
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| 14:44.44 | jelly | funyun: http://wooledge.org:8000/BashGuide#head-af10162bb09a3bd87ccdd85321d350a47fe5d856 |
| 14:44.45 | tobor | themill: you're not keeping up. |
| 14:44.57 | tobor | themill, read the scrollback. |
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| 14:45.25 | themill | tobor: tldr, ot and I don't care anyway. |
| 14:45.26 | endeavormac | if i run /usr/sbin/dhpcd tap0 things seem to work just fine... |
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| 14:46.01 | wols | themill: would be a waste of time |
| 14:46.21 | tmp_ | jim_home: Does the crontab work if you copy it from /var/spool/cron/crontabs into /etc/cron.d/ ? |
| 14:46.37 | funyun | jelly: is it that complicated? i really have to read that entire thing? |
| 14:46.58 | jelly | funyun: no, just look at the for loop. |
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| 14:47.41 | jelly | funyun: you'd write something like "for filename in *.avi", do, then your command doing something on ${filename}, followed by "done" |
| 14:47.58 | jim_home | tmp_: I just installed bcron-run and it looks like it will work...will know in about 3 minutes |
| 14:48.03 | jelly | funyun: but if you want to learn what the shell can do, sure, read it all |
| 14:48.37 | tmp_ | jim_home: Although IIRC the formatting of crontabs in /etc/cron.d/ is a bit different. I think one field goes away for the ones in /etc/... |
| 14:48.56 | tmp_ | jim_home: Okay. |
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| 14:49.01 | r0ns | hi,is it possible to unplug a usb device and replug it using the shell? |
| 14:49.11 | r0ns | i mean equivalent to tyhat :) |
| 14:49.46 | r0ns | am dealing with a remote machine,need to unplug the usb ups and re-attach it |
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| 14:49.51 | funyun | jelly: some of the files are also wmv and mp4. how would i factor that in? |
| 14:51.14 | jelly | funyun: you would read the for loop in the bash guide and realize you could also add *.wmv or similar to the for line |
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| 14:52.00 | jim_home | tmp_: bcron-run package made it all work |
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| 14:52.14 | jim_home | for some reason the default cron that came with debian wasn't running my crontab |
| 14:53.18 | jelly | jim_home: how many lines did you have in your crontab? Did you forget to place an ending linefeed (enter key) on the last line? |
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| 14:53.58 | paul0 | hi, i'm trying to copy some files to my smartphone (Nokia e61i) via bluetooth, but the connection isn't very good |
| 14:54.02 | jelly | vixie cron and friends are picky that way, they want lines ending properly |
| 14:54.27 | jim_home | jelly: no there isn't a blank line at the end |
| 14:54.29 | paul0 | the connection fails during the copy |
| 14:55.12 | jelly | jim_home: but does the last line itself have a linefeed? |
| 14:55.27 | jelly | it should. |
| 14:55.35 | abrotman | .rt |
| 14:55.41 | jelly | ECHAN |
| 14:55.45 | cognitiaclaeves | I'm having an issue getting proftpd working in an Etch chroot environment: : IPv4 getaddrinfo 'q2ftp' error: No address associated with hostname . |
| 14:55.47 | abrotman | yes! |
| 14:55.59 | abrotman | jelly: i just saw "last" :) |
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| 14:57.17 | funyun | jelly: is this right? "for filename in *.avi *wmv *mp4", do, ./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 ${filename}, "done" |
| 14:57.47 | dqn | i have a question, sorry if it's a bit too lame - i'd like to obtain/create a huge ascii file with all deb packages currently available for debian. any advice on how to go about doing it? |
| 14:57.54 | jelly | funyun: no |
| 14:58.03 | funyun | jelly: was it close? |
| 14:58.24 | stew | dqn: look in /var/lib/apt/lists/ at the Packages files |
| 14:58.26 | jelly | funyun: get rid of "", and put semicolons instead of , between the commands |
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| 14:59.12 | funyun | jelly: for filename in *.avi *wmv *mp4; do; ./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 ${filename}; done ??? |
| 14:59.19 | jelly | funyun: also, bash has a quirk in that you also have to delete the ; after do if you put it all in one line |
| 14:59.34 | dqn | stew: thanks! |
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| 15:00.06 | funyun | jelly: so, for filename in *.avi *wmv *mp4; do ./dhyana.pl --background black -r 13 ${filename}; done? |
| 15:00.09 | jelly | funyun: that looks reasonable. |
| 15:00.43 | stew | funyun: as long as your filenames don't have whitespace |
| 15:01.51 | jelly | stew: this will handle whitespace, won't it? |
| 15:02.06 | jelly | touch a b "a b"; a="a b"; ls -l ${a} |
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| 15:02.37 | dudeman | you can include whitespace in double " |
| 15:02.45 | dudeman | can't you? |
| 15:03.01 | dudeman | if the filename has spaces |
| 15:03.20 | dqn | just wondering, does anyone have any nice regexp/command handy for displaying all info in /var/lib/apt/lists in a fromat PACKAGE - Some Description. |
| 15:03.46 | dudeman | dqn, use aptitude search patterns |
| 15:03.48 | stew | jelly: oh, it will, nevermind |
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| 15:04.04 | jelly | ${foo} beats $foo |
| 15:04.17 | stew | dqn: look at grep-dctrl |
| 15:04.19 | dudeman | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html#secDisplayFormat |
| 15:04.28 | dudeman | grep-dctrl |
| 15:04.31 | dudeman | hm |
| 15:04.35 | jelly | huh |
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| 15:04.41 | dudeman | what? |
| 15:04.41 | jelly | bash fails at this |
| 15:04.47 | dudeman | did I misunderstand his question then? |
| 15:05.08 | jelly | funyun: stew is right, put that ${filename} in "" |
| 15:05.11 | dudeman | woulldn't it be the same thing as doing this? |
| 15:05.31 | dqn | stew, dudeman: thx |
| 15:05.53 | jelly | stew: worked fine in zsh, but failed in bash on lenny |
| 15:06.02 | dudeman | This section describes how to configure the contents and format of the package list, status line, and header line. |
| 15:06.07 | dudeman | isn't this what you are afteR? |
| 15:06.12 | funyun | jelly, stew: it works perfect. thanks so much |
| 15:06.19 | dudeman | ... |
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| 15:07.40 | jelly | thebeerhunter: still i don't think a machine pressed on space would have python installed! |
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| 15:08.00 | fanti | hey. i do want to get may wireless lan adapter ipw2200 work. the kernel module is already loaded. do i have to add anything more apart from that two lines "auto eth1" "iface eth1 inet dhcp" ? ifup eth1 fails. is there any tutorial howto configure wlan with debian? |
| 15:08.31 | dudeman | http://packages.debian.org/etch/grep-dctrl |
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| 15:08.59 | fanti | iwconfig says "eth1 no wireless extensions" ? |
| 15:09.06 | wols | !tell fanti about ipw2100 |
| 15:09.09 | dudeman | neat |
| 15:09.23 | dudeman | !stew++ |
| 15:09.30 | wols | fanti: "iwconfig" |
| 15:09.45 | hifi | fanti: you need the propietary firmware data |
| 15:10.19 | dudeman | whoah its 11am damn I woke up late today huh |
| 15:10.24 | dudeman | hm.. anyway later |
| 15:10.32 | hifi | fanti: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php |
| 15:10.43 | fanti | hifi: thank you |
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| 15:11.29 | hifi | fanti: in a nutshell: copy the firmware to /lib/firmware/ and reload the module |
| 15:11.31 | tuxcrafter | i have just boot a system with the lenny netinstaller, and it is now showing me the message download installer comonents, no kernel modules were found this is probably is due to a mismatch betwee the kernel used by tjis version of the installer and the kernel version availible in the archive |
| 15:11.32 | jelly | fanti: modinfo ipw2200|grep ^version to get the driver version |
| 15:11.36 | tuxcrafter | what to do now |
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| 15:11.46 | wols | hifi: there is a firmware I gave fanti long ago. if he bothered to read it |
| 15:11.54 | hifi | oh |
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| 15:12.03 | wols | !tell tuxcrafter about errors |
| 15:12.08 | jelly | on my machine ipw2200 doesn't even load if there's no firmware present |
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| 15:12.44 | wols | a factoid rathzer :( |
| 15:12.50 | hifi | oh, it's probably not loading then |
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| 15:13.11 | tuxcrafter | wols: should i type the compleet message over? |
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| 15:13.33 | wols | !tell tuxcrafter about paste |
| 15:13.56 | hifi | wols, you are getting desperate? :) |
| 15:13.56 | tuxcrafter | i know what paste is |
| 15:14.21 | wols | tuxcrafter: then use it? |
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| 15:14.34 | wols | hifi: ? |
| 15:14.47 | hifi | is the bot working? |
| 15:15.07 | wols | hifi: are you unable to check yourself? |
| 15:15.31 | hifi | didn't it previously output to this channel on !tell |
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| 15:15.46 | wols | never ever did |
| 15:15.50 | hifi | my bad then |
| 15:16.55 | tuxcrafter | wols: http://paste.debian.net/19364/ |
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| 15:18.38 | wols | tuxcrafter: what installer is this? |
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| 15:18.57 | wols | tuxcrafter: and what special kernel is it? |
| 15:19.12 | pdbogen | Anybody know of a good ACPI monitor/battery monitor for the system tray/notification area? |
| 15:19.24 | pdbogen | (Preferably one that doesn't include all of the Gnome or KDE cruft, if possible..) |
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| 15:20.02 | theholyduck | pdbogen, i just use the terminal for that |
| 15:20.03 | liri | ough, seems like debian etch netinstall doesn't have the atl2 network driver |
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| 15:20.51 | tuxcrafter | wols: it is in the pastebin |
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| 15:20.57 | tuxcrafter | it is the lenny netinstaller |
| 15:20.59 | bolt-work | liri: i had to get 2.6.26 for that. lenny :/ |
| 15:21.05 | tuxcrafter | i booted it from usb |
| 15:21.08 | tuxcrafter | it seems broken |
| 15:21.18 | tuxcrafter | i am trying the sid netinstaller know |
| 15:21.21 | tuxcrafter | but i wanted lenny |
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| 15:22.26 | sploozer | I am trying to set a password for my samba shares...i have a "Shares.conf" file and I don't remember the parameter to add in there....i ran the sambpaswd on one of my share names and now I can't mount the share it turns mount error 11 = Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 15:22.43 | sploozer | any ideas? |
| 15:22.51 | themill | tuxcrafter: which sid netinstall would that be? |
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| 15:23.01 | liri | bolt-work: how do you get a newer kernel with no internet access? :) |
| 15:23.20 | bolt-work | lenny cdimage |
| 15:23.42 | pobega | I'm using cpufreq to throttle my CPU, but I was wondering if there is a way to get my CPU to run at it's full speed when I am plugged in and throttle only when on battery power? I've looked through /etc/acpi and can't find anything that seems useful |
| 15:23.50 | tuxcrafter | wols: is is probably possible to test the netinstaller with: http://paste.debian.net/19365/ |
| 15:23.53 | liable | liri: cant download the deb to a usn key?> |
| 15:24.20 | pdbogen | pobega: Maybe. |
| 15:24.21 | liri | liable: yuck, is anyone still doing that these days? heh |
| 15:24.27 | wols | themill: there is no sid installer |
| 15:24.37 | themill | wols: I know |
| 15:24.38 | pdbogen | pobega: If your laptop produces ACPI events for plugging in your AC adapter, you can write ACPI scripts to switch throttling on and off based on those events. |
| 15:25.00 | pobega | pdbogen: How can I tell if my laptop produces said ACPI events? I'm on an Eee PC by the way |
| 15:25.04 | tuxcrafter | themill: i am currenly testing http://paste.debian.net/19366/ but i dont know if it works, its still bootin |
| 15:25.15 | liable | liri: if you dont have internet, yes.. |
| 15:25.30 | liri | bolt-work: ok so currently I have the base netinstall of etch. so I would need to get the cd image of lenny and find the kernel deb there to upgrade? |
| 15:25.34 | theholyduck | i've had SOME uses for apt-zip |
| 15:25.35 | liable | wols: its possible to install sid from any installer |
| 15:25.37 | pdbogen | pobega: The Eee probably does. The easy way to find out is to: (1) /etc/init.d/acpid stop, (2) sudo cat /proc/acpi/event, and then (3) un-plug or re-plug the AC adapter. |
| 15:25.38 | theholyduck | though its rare |
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| 15:25.56 | wols | liable: but there still is no "sid installer" |
| 15:26.05 | bolt-work | liri: it would be incompatible with most of the other stuff you use. just get the lenny netinstall and use that |
| 15:26.06 | themill | tuxcrafter: you realise that you are (a) not using a sid installer at all, and (b) that's not the netinstall? |
| 15:26.06 | wols | you can use a lenny installer to install sid,yes |
| 15:26.13 | pdbogen | pobega: If you see some sort of message when that happens that's like ac_adapter ACAD 00000000 00000001, it means it generates the events. |
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| 15:26.18 | themill | liable: should sid actually be installable on that particular day |
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| 15:26.49 | thebeerhunter | jelly, using python2.5-minimal will take up a 1/4 of what i am removing from my system |
| 15:27.00 | pobega | pdbogen: yep, I see stuff about ac/battery/hotkey |
| 15:27.02 | liri | bolt-work: ahh... meaning, doing the install all over again which isn't that bad since I don't have anything up anyway, except for the software raid which I had to setup |
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| 15:27.13 | pobega | How do I use these events to write the script? |
| 15:27.21 | pdbogen | pobega: Can you paste one of the AC lines to me? |
| 15:27.34 | sharp15 | does debian have an equivalent for md5deep or sha<bitwidth>deep? |
| 15:27.45 | pobega | pdbogen: Moment |
| 15:28.04 | pdbogen | The short version is: write a file in /etc/acpi/events that tells acpid to call a script (usually one of /etc/acpi/*.sh), and that script checks /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state to see if the AC adapter is in or out, and do things based on that. |
| 15:28.13 | tuxcrafter | themill: the sid modules gave the same messaga its also using the same kernel 2.6.24-1-486 |
| 15:28.37 | bolt-work | liri: your software raid is stored in the raid devices' superblocks. it will be redetected :) |
| 15:29.01 | liable | themill: sure |
| 15:29.03 | pobega | pdbogen: http://rafb.net/p/gM7FI830.html |
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| 15:29.19 | thebeerhunter | sharp15, you can use find |
| 15:29.26 | themill | tuxcrafter: I know nothing about the usb installer. I only looked because you said netinstall... if you said usb image I wouldn't have even looked. |
| 15:29.28 | jelly | thebeerhunter: nice |
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| 15:30.36 | wols | tuxcrafter: get a daily lenny snapshot instead |
| 15:30.57 | sharp15 | thebeerhunter: not sure how find would help. |
| 15:30.59 | tuxcrafter | themill: i create my own system with the kerenel that i think are also used by the netisntaller wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz |
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| 15:31.03 | tuxcrafter | wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux |
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| 15:31.58 | themill | tuxcrafter: I can't help you with this... ask the channel not me, but try to call things by the names that other people know them as that will help you get the right people interested. |
| 15:32.24 | liri | bolt-work: yep, I'm getting it as we speak |
| 15:32.26 | pdbogen | pobega: http://rafb.net/p/k2xfHn16.html |
| 15:32.32 | pobega | pdbogen: My acpi seems to be a lot different than the one you described. The events/ folder isn't there, and neither is the ac_adapter dir. And I can't find any that ould seem "equivalent" |
| 15:32.37 | rwaite | where for art thou, lenny |
| 15:32.41 | liri | bolt-work: lenny beta2 netinstall, right? |
| 15:32.44 | pdbogen | pobega: There are a couple places we're talking about. |
| 15:32.51 | pdbogen | pobega: /proc/acpi/ and /etc/acpi/ |
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| 15:33.00 | pdbogen | pobega: Does /proc/acpi not have an ac_adapter directory? |
| 15:33.06 | tuxcrafter | themill: ok sorry |
| 15:33.12 | pobega | pdbogen: Oh, I didn't even notice that - And yeah, /proc doesn't have an ac_adapter dir |
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| 15:33.31 | tuxcrafter | is there a newer source of the following file: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/ |
| 15:33.33 | pdbogen | pobega: Does it show up if you sudo modprobe ac? |
| 15:33.53 | sploozer | whenever I try and mount my samba share it returns mount error 11 = Resource temporarily unavailable this recently happened when I changed the password on my share but I didnt think of adding the password para in my Shares.conf file |
| 15:33.59 | sploozer | any ideas? |
| 15:34.15 | pobega | pdbogen: Nope |
| 15:34.18 | bolt-work | liri: might work :) |
| 15:34.21 | sharp15 | thebeerhunter: never mind. i guess today will be one of my slow ones. |
| 15:34.29 | pdbogen | pobega: Anything important at the end of dmesg? |
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| 15:34.50 | pobega | pdbogen: [21230.366788] ACPI: EC: missing OBF confirmation, don't expect it any longer. |
| 15:35.16 | pobega | Funny. |
| 15:35.18 | liri | bolt-work: lol, might? thanks for the encouragement :) |
| 15:35.34 | pobega | I did modprobe -r, and modprobe, and then dmesg said: [26529.571035] ACPI: AC Adapter [AC0] (on-line) |
| 15:35.50 | bolt-work | liri: beta :) |
| 15:35.50 | pobega | But it's still not in /proc/acpi... |
| 15:35.58 | pdbogen | What's *is* in /proc/acpi? |
| 15:36.05 | liri | bolt-work: heh, I thought it's what you used and worked out just fine... but seriously, I don't need the full cd/dvd to find the driver there, right? |
| 15:36.18 | aixenv | sploozer: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-samba-maint/2007-December/003274.html |
| 15:36.24 | aixenv | google is your friend |
| 15:36.31 | tuxcrafter | where can i find the debain daily builds? |
| 15:36.40 | tuxcrafter | not the isos but the packages |
| 15:36.54 | sploozer | aixenv: this is happening on my Fedora box not windows :) |
| 15:36.55 | pobega | pdbogen: asus/ button/ dsdt embedded_controller/ event fadt fan/ info power_resource/ processor/ sleep thermal_zone/ video/ wakeup |
| 15:37.00 | pdbogen | What's in asus/ ? |
| 15:37.08 | sploozer | and samba is running on debian |
| 15:37.09 | pdbogen | Also, power_resource/ ? |
| 15:37.14 | aixenv | sploozer: go read it |
| 15:37.19 | pobega | pdbogen: brn camera cardr cpufv disp hdps init wlan |
| 15:37.35 | pobega | That folder is empty, pdbogen |
| 15:37.53 | pdbogen | Odd. |
| 15:38.29 | bolt-work | liri: no, i had two network cards in mine, so i went through etch to lenny to use the other one |
| 15:39.00 | pdbogen | pobega: It looks like there might be some special ACPI modules for the Eee. |
| 15:39.23 | sploozer | aixenv: thank you...but how do I enable a password on a specific share for a "guest" |
| 15:39.30 | pobega | pdbogen: Argh. I guess I'd be better off going to debian-eeepc then. Thanks for your help pdbogen, you've taught me a lot about ACPI that I never knew. |
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| 15:39.43 | liri | bolt-work: ahh |
| 15:39.48 | pdbogen | pobega: No problem; sorry I couldn't get it completely figured out for you. |
| 15:39.53 | disposab1e | i installed apache2+php5 on my home network and it worked. then i added another network card with a routable ip address and instead of displaying the php webpage, browser just asks me if i want to save index.php. what do i need to change in apache's configuration for this to work? |
| 15:39.58 | thebeerhunter | sharp15, sorry, was away... you can execute a command on the results |
| 15:39.59 | pdbogen | pobega: BTW, do you have a chosen docklet/tray app for battery monitoring? |
| 15:40.16 | pobega | pdbogen: Custom shell script in wmii. Shows my current MHz, battery, and CPU Temp |
| 15:40.16 | sploozer | smbpasswd -a guest I assume |
| 15:40.28 | disposab1e | it still works on the internal ip address. just not on the external over the new NIC. |
| 15:40.42 | pobega | I don't really use tray apps seeing as I don't have a tray |
| 15:40.48 | pdbogen | Fair enough. |
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| 15:40.56 | pdbogen | If you ever want one, I've found trayer to be a good and lightweight standalone tray. :P |
| 15:41.08 | pobega | I mean, usually I just set the freq to 900 myself then restart the daemon when I unplug. |
| 15:41.18 | pobega | Hm. Would it work in wmii? |
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| 15:41.37 | pdbogen | Is wmii EMWH compatible? |
| 15:41.50 | thebeerhunter | sharp15, something like find . -type f -exec md5sum {} + |
| 15:42.07 | pobega | I'm not sure, but all I know is Googling brought up a page with some guy editing the wmii config to work with trayer. |
| 15:42.14 | pobega | Why do you bringup trayapps though, pdbogen ? |
| 15:42.17 | pdbogen | nods. It'd probably just handle it like any other window. |
| 15:42.30 | pdbogen | pobega: The reason I'm in here is that I'm looking for a battery monitor for my AA1 (Acer's version of the Eee. :P) |
| 15:43.06 | pobega | You know, it'd be interesting to talk to another person with a subnotebook, especially the AA1. Do you have an IM, or somewhere personal I can reach you at? |
| 15:44.32 | pdbogen | Ugh. I think I might write my own battery monitor. |
| 15:44.46 | pdbogen | acpi-docklet wants me to install 25MB of development libraries that I don't want to install. :P |
| 15:45.23 | cognitiaclaeves | I have a server that isn't running an FTP server, but I seem to be able to hit it with FTP, though it immediately closes the connection. Is some other software opening and immediately closing the connection? |
| 15:46.04 | sploozer | is there a way to authenticate a guest user in samba without having the user put in a username? |
| 15:46.39 | sharp15 | thebeerhunter: thank you. the variation of that command that i was using was complaining about missing arguments. it's working now. |
| 15:46.51 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: if you dont get "ftp: connect: Connection refused" something is listening on port 20/21 |
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| 15:48.40 | cognitiaclaeves | 20 or 21? |
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| 15:48.50 | wols | 21 |
| 15:49.02 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: 21... 20 = ftp-data |
| 15:49.02 | cognitiaclaeves | netstat -pan | grep :21 returns nothing... |
| 15:49.08 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: netstat -anp |grep 21 as root |
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| 15:49.29 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: are you root? |
| 15:49.38 | cognitiaclaeves | Well, no, but I used sudo... |
| 15:50.47 | cahoot | inetd? |
| 15:51.02 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: pastebin 'ftp localhost' |
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| 15:52.14 | cognitiaclaeves | that's a good idea, too. |
| 15:52.31 | aixenv | if it doesn't do what i stated, trust me something is listening |
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| 15:52.42 | Wolfcastle | hello |
| 15:52.47 | cognitiaclaeves | aixenv: Not needed. Connection was refused. Thanks. That helped a ton! |
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| 15:52.57 | Wolfcastle | how can I change my default java to suns verison instead of gcj? |
| 15:52.59 | cognitiaclaeves | ( Didn't think about attempting to ftp to localhost. ) |
| 15:53.04 | sandman | Is there a GUI for managing how often your HDD spins down? |
| 15:53.04 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: np, have a good day |
| 15:53.06 | Wolfcastle | I believe I can do it with update-alternatives? |
| 15:53.12 | cognitiaclaeves | thanks, you too. |
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| 15:53.50 | wols | sandman: no. but there is hdparm |
| 15:54.00 | wols | Wolfcastle: yes |
| 15:54.11 | wols | Wolfcastle: if suns java is installed |
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| 15:54.37 | Wolfcastle | yes it's installed alright |
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| 15:55.02 | tuxcrafter | i tried the amd linux and initrd to but still the same message |
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| 15:55.14 | themill | !java alternatives |
| 15:55.14 | dpkg | Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the sun-java6 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun". |
| 15:55.15 | tuxcrafter | where can i find the most recent initrd and linux builds |
| 15:55.35 | wols | tuxcrafter: I told you |
| 15:55.40 | themill | Wolfcastle: ^^ |
| 15:55.44 | Wolfcastle | should I run "update-alternatives --set java path_to_java_sun"? |
| 15:56.05 | Wolfcastle | ah nice thanx |
| 15:56.05 | tuxcrafter | wols: where can i find the debian daily live builds? |
| 15:56.12 | wols | on debian.org |
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| 15:56.22 | slept | quitte, would you mind spending some of your attention on a certain ssl problem ? |
| 15:56.27 | wols | and there are no "live" builds. only installers |
| 15:57.50 | sandman | wols: Thank you. Additionally, it would seem that my drive will no spin down for any length of time. hdparm -y /dev/sda will spin it down, but then it'll just come back up within even a minute. |
| 15:58.10 | sandman | This is despite the fact that I'm not doing anything, and my system here has 4G of RAM, of which quite a lot of it is being used by cache. |
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| 15:58.29 | sandman | My question is, then, does this have to with the filesystem? Or the fact that I have a swap file on the HDD in use? |
| 15:58.32 | sandman | Or perhaps both? |
| 15:59.02 | wols | and read/write will do it |
| 15:59.16 | Llama | Hi. Whaet is a true way to create user during package install ? adduser from preinst or something else ? |
| 15:59.22 | cahoot | temporarily disble swap? |
| 15:59.52 | sandman | wols: Right, but what could possibly be doing r/w's? I'm not doing anything |
| 16:00.03 | sandman | Nothing is running that, at least I would think, would be writing. |
| 16:00.16 | sandman | I will temporarily disable swap to see what happens |
| 16:00.34 | sandman | Actually, wait. 0K of swap is being used atm. So it's not being used I don't think |
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| 16:01.59 | wols | logs? |
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| 16:02.56 | sandman | So there's no real easy way to spin down the HDD and keep it down? |
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| 16:03.09 | sandman | It's something of a science? =) Of figuring out your entire system to figure out what's writing? |
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| 16:03.15 | jelly | Llama: stuff is usually done in postinst, but yeah |
| 16:03.59 | Llama | jelly, so there are no 'package.user' and dh_users or so, correct? |
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| 16:05.39 | Minoru | hi! Which Debian can be installed at the machine with Celeron M420 processor (i mean which arch this proc have and which build of deb i must download) |
| 16:05.54 | Minoru | ? |
| 16:05.57 | aixenv | celeron = non-amd |
| 16:06.00 | pdbogen | i386 |
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| 16:06.15 | jelly | Llama: not that I know of, but I'm not an avid packager anyway |
| 16:06.16 | wald0 | what means +nmu in the package version ? |
| 16:06.38 | jelly | Llama: I just steal code from clamav-base or wherever :-) |
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| 16:06.44 | Llama | ;) |
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| 16:06.50 | aixenv | Minoru: it may be listed as 686 |
| 16:07.04 | jelly | interestingly, mysql-server-5.0 really does it in perinst |
| 16:07.10 | jelly | preinst |
| 16:07.14 | stew | wald0: "Non-Maintainer Upload". meaning that someone that is not the listed maintainer of the package prepared an uploaded a new revision of a package to fix bugs |
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| 16:08.02 | wald0 | thanks stew |
| 16:08.11 | ugly | what's the fastest encrypted filesystem solution for Linux? (give the same cipher strength) |
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| 16:08.15 | Minoru | okey, i will install i386 build. thank all who helps |
| 16:08.21 | Minoru | *thanks |
| 16:08.28 | aixenv | np Minoru |
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| 16:08.37 | ugly | currently considering loop-aes simply because it seems so easy to set up |
| 16:08.43 | vadmeste | Hi. I got this error while trying to play sound with play : (ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave) and (play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device).. fuser -k /dev/dsp doesn't resolve the problem.. what's wrong ? |
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| 16:09.32 | Llama | vadmeste, maybe permission issue ? |
| 16:09.53 | Llama | vadmeste, user should be in group 'audio' to play something. |
| 16:09.55 | vadmeste | Llama, no.. I was listening to music one second ago |
| 16:09.59 | tuxcrafter | wols: i now extracted an initrd and linux kernel out of the http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz |
| 16:10.04 | Kovensky | vadmeste: run 'groups' and see if you're in 'audio' |
| 16:10.15 | Kovensky | hmm... are you using oss? |
| 16:10.26 | aixenv | vadmeste: lame but, maybe restart and the problem will go away? |
| 16:10.26 | vadmeste | hannken dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev |
| 16:10.27 | Kovensky | /dev/dsp has nothing to do with alsa, except for it's oss emulation |
| 16:10.41 | Kovensky | vadmeste: lsmod | grep snd |
| 16:10.44 | Kovensky | what does it return? |
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| 16:11.40 | aixenv | my ubuntu laptop has tweaky issues with sound every so often |
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| 16:12.07 | Kovensky | aixenv: you spoke the forbidden word :S |
| 16:12.08 | vadmeste | Kovensky, http://pastebin.com/db33ee82 |
| 16:12.22 | gromgull | is there some clean way to clean out all documentation that comes with various packages? apart from rm -fr /usr/share/doc /usr/share/man ? |
| 16:12.27 | aixenv | Kovensky: lol |
| 16:12.37 | wols | gromgull: no |
| 16:12.38 | Kovensky | aixenv: so far the only sound problem I had was when pulseaudio got stuck |
| 16:12.49 | Kovensky | not even /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart fixed that, only rebooting |
| 16:12.51 | gromgull | wols, ok - thanks :) |
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| 16:13.00 | vadmeste | gromgull, do you want delete man files ??? are you so strong ? |
| 16:13.07 | aixenv | Kovensky: i admin like 500 debian servers so i think it's ok to run ubuntu :P.. plus i like to run cutting edge on my laptop, where as debian sides on the stable/secure approach |
| 16:13.11 | gromgull | it's an embedded device, I can't afford the space |
| 16:13.19 | Kovensky | aixenv: yeah, try sid... :) |
| 16:13.21 | vadmeste | lol |
| 16:13.27 | Kovensky | or are you using grumpy groundhog? =p |
| 16:14.04 | Kovensky | vadmeste: try 'rmmod <all those modules on the left>' |
| 16:14.07 | aixenv | im using lenny/sid on the laptop |
| 16:14.08 | Kovensky | actually, modprobe -r :) |
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| 16:15.07 | Kovensky | vadmeste: after you 'modprobe -r', try 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' |
| 16:15.27 | vadmeste | Kovensky, ok |
| 16:17.08 | vadmeste | Kovensky, FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. |
| 16:17.36 | Kovensky | hmm |
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| 16:17.48 | cahoot | fuser -v /dev/snd/* |
| 16:17.48 | Kovensky | inside /dev/snd/, there are a handful of 'pcm' files |
| 16:17.53 | Kovensky | cahoot: yup :P |
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| 16:18.58 | aixenv | reboot woulda fixed it too :P |
| 16:19.00 | vadmeste | Kovensky, I'll kill all of them ? |
| 16:19.21 | aixenv | too windowsy tho i know |
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| 16:19.50 | TiMiDo | hey this module via82cxxx_audio i put it on /etc/modules ? so it can started up at boot? |
| 16:19.59 | wols | TiMiDo: yes |
| 16:20.43 | TiMiDo | thnx vol |
| 16:20.50 | TiMiDo | thnx wols =) |
| 16:20.56 | vadmeste | Kovensky, that worked.. I don't know.. but that happens sometimes... |
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| 16:21.09 | master_alvaro | hello |
| 16:21.22 | master_alvaro | have TrueCrypt own bootloader (if i choose whole disk encryption)? |
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| 16:21.28 | master_alvaro | does TC-bootloader support linux? |
| 16:21.30 | aixenv | sounds is finicky |
| 16:21.34 | master_alvaro | can i use TC to encrypt whole disk (/boot, /, /home, swap) and use linux? |
| 16:21.55 | sharp15 | master_alvaro: no it doesn't. windows only for version 6. |
| 16:22.20 | master_alvaro | sharp15: so /boot can't be encrypted? |
| 16:22.44 | _Sam-- | master_alvaro : im sure there's plenty other options, but i use 'encfs', works well for me. but no, i dont encrypt /boot. |
| 16:22.47 | sharp15 | you can still view encrypted volumes but not use whole disk encryption. |
| 16:22.57 | master_alvaro | is there any software, which can encrypt whole disk or encrypt all partition? |
| 16:23.20 | sharp15 | master_alvaro: not that i'm aware of for linux. |
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| 16:23.54 | sharp15 | i know dm-crypt/crypt-setup can be used to encrypt the whole drive and place the boot system on a flash drive. |
| 16:23.58 | master_alvaro | actually i have dm-crypt/luks and i have encrypted / (with /bin and /usr), swap and /home |
| 16:24.08 | _Sam-- | what is so sensitive in /boot that you need to encrypt it? |
| 16:24.16 | master_alvaro | but i buy a new computer... |
| 16:24.16 | aixenv | i was thinking the same thing |
| 16:24.17 | aixenv | lol |
| 16:24.28 | master_alvaro | and i search for easy program to encrypt ;-) |
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| 16:24.50 | wols | _Sam--: my kernel config! it has all my s3krits! |
| 16:25.10 | aixenv | zomg not my menu.1st NOOOOO |
| 16:25.27 | master_alvaro | _Sam--: i don't need to encrypt boot, but if i encrypt whole disk, i do it faster ;-) |
| 16:25.44 | _Sam-- | not necessarily. |
| 16:25.57 | sharp15 | _Sam--: theoretically someone could modify/replace your ramdisk/ramfs image to make your life h***. though i like the boot system on usb key more than encrypted /boot. |
| 16:26.19 | master_alvaro | _Sam--: yes, i don't need encrypted /boot |
| 16:26.20 | _Sam-- | interesting. i never considered that. |
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| 16:27.14 | master_alvaro | sharp15: i know it, that someone can modify initramfs and put in keyloger or something like that, but "it is ok"? |
| 16:27.26 | master_alvaro | :s/?// |
| 16:28.01 | aixenv | your servers are accessible by random ppl? |
| 16:28.07 | sharp15 | _Sam--: asked i was just letting him know. |
| 16:28.14 | sharp15 | aixenv: could be a laptop? |
| 16:28.35 | aixenv | hm i just do what you do..cant boot w/o the key |
| 16:28.55 | aixenv | well i suppose you could... gnoppix/knoppix etc.. but most thieves aren't that savvy |
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| 16:29.03 | sharp15 | _Sam--: if you get bored and can ignore the gentoo stuff http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_System_Encryption_DM-Crypt_with_LUKS#Security_levels has a more usefull explanation of why to encrypt /boot |
| 16:29.41 | sharp15 | anyone know where i can find directions for setting up an nfs server on a debian box? |
| 16:29.49 | _Sam-- | id rather start learning how i can boot like you 2 -- needing a usb key. right now i have / encrypted and it cant be mounted without a password. but use of the usb key sounds interesting, even for just learning. |
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| 16:30.29 | aixenv | just dont lose your usb key. that's annoying lol |
| 16:30.35 | _Sam-- | http://www.debianadmin.com/network-file-system-nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-debian.html |
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| 16:30.45 | sharp15 | _Sam--: at the moment i'm only using a secondary encrypted partition. i can't find enough information to allow me to encrypt root on my gentoo box. i would need to write an initramfs. |
| 16:31.12 | _Sam-- | sharp15 : i dont know. i use encfs and just the module, then i can mount / |
| 16:31.13 | sharp15 | aixenv: or keep a duplicate on a buisness card cd or your ipod. |
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| 16:31.30 | aixenv | sharp15: that'd be too logical though |
| 16:31.32 | sharp15 | * cd goes in wallet |
| 16:31.33 | _Sam-- | i mean, the kernel module -- modprobe fuse |
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| 16:31.55 | bp158 | hi |
| 16:31.55 | aixenv | i do actually have it on my cell now heh |
| 16:31.55 | bp158 | anyone speaking german ? |
| 16:32.21 | simonrvn | not currently, we're speaking german |
| 16:32.22 | sharp15 | _Sam--: i would prefer cryptsetup-luks. truecrypt's fuse system put a bad taste in my mouth about speed issues. |
| 16:32.28 | simonrvn | not speaking* |
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| 16:32.45 | bp158 | ...but writing = |
| 16:32.55 | simonrvn | poo |
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| 16:33.04 | bp158 | = -> ? |
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| 16:33.25 | sharp15 | bp158: debian probably has a german language channel. did you try there? |
| 16:33.31 | simonrvn | !de |
| 16:33.31 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
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| 16:33.44 | bp158 | thx ! |
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| 16:34.24 | odla | is there a debian oo.org channel? |
| 16:34.46 | punto | hi.. where are the packages downloaded after I do 'apt-get install -d package' ? I don't see it in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 16:35.08 | simonrvn | !ooo |
| 16:35.08 | dpkg | i guess openoffice.org is an LGPL office productivity suite based upon Sun's StarOffice. See #debian-oo #openoffice.org http://openoffice.debian.net or http://www.openoffice.org, or ask me about <openoffice.org amd64> |
| 16:35.11 | sharp15 | odla: there is a generic OO.o channel #openoffice.org , i don't know about debian specific. |
| 16:35.27 | odla | simonrvn: thanks |
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| 16:35.33 | simonrvn | np |
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| 16:37.24 | edwin_quijada | Hi! There is an app that allow me to use debian like kiosk app |
| 16:37.25 | edwin_quijada | ? |
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| 16:39.38 | jelly | #debian-oo is on irc.debian.org |
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| 16:46.39 | Gfree | is there any program that can tell me that which of my user used which ip? lets say i have 200 vhosts and 500 users, n for exaple one of 200 vhosts is a.b.c.com n i want to know that which user used that vhost |
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| 16:47.13 | screamingbytes | anyone running XFCE4 that can tell me what the perms are on /etc/xdg/ |
| 16:47.21 | screamingbytes | and the owner |
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| 16:47.53 | Pavlz | hello |
| 16:48.15 | Pavlz | i would like to know if is available a software to editing dvd |
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| 16:48.52 | wols | Pavlz: editing in what way? |
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| 16:49.06 | Henry-Nicolas | Hello everybody, I'v got a simple question about dpkg comportment. I had to use --force-overwrite option (to install iscan for an Epson V200 scanner, the iscan package overwrite the libsane-extras package). The question is : when I will update my system (and also libsane-extras), what dpkg will do ? will it faill/crash or will it keep the files from the iscan package ? |
| 16:49.34 | aixenv | Gfree: that really didn't make sense |
| 16:49.38 | dustybin | bloody heck, its going down: Number concerning the next release: 186 |
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| 16:50.49 | Pavlz | to import only 45 minutes of the full movie |
| 16:51.11 | Pavlz | i don't want to see 85 minutes |
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| 16:53.41 | wols | you need an mpeg2 editor/cutter then (after your decrypted the CSS vob file) |
| 16:54.20 | jelly | Henry-Nicolas: it will likely fail in the same way |
| 16:54.59 | mx-tvt | hey... if I wanted to change mouse buttons, for example, 6 with 2, what could I do? |
| 16:55.19 | Henry-Nicolas | jelly: so it will refuse to update the package to not override iscan, so I have to set-selection = hold for the libsane-extras package ? |
| 16:55.45 | Gfree | HELP ME |
| 16:56.14 | yang | Does grub-set-default 3 sets the kernel number 3 to position for the boot? |
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| 16:57.41 | Eulex | yang, yes, assuming that grub is setup to use the default. |
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| 16:57.50 | jelly | Henry-Nicolas: if you don't hold it, the upgrade would break, yes. But then again it'll never get updated |
| 16:58.12 | Henry-Nicolas | jelly: ok, thx for the answer |
| 16:59.13 | aixenv | wow i need to irc more.. i didn't realize there were bots on here just like IM |
| 16:59.14 | tuxcrafter | wols: the files located at http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz |
| 16:59.19 | tuxcrafter | have the same problem |
| 16:59.39 | yang | Eulex: do you know if i have a parameter in menu.lst "fallback 1 2" does this mean boot kernel entry 1 and then 2 ? |
| 17:00.05 | yang | Eulex: so for kernel position 3 i must do "fallback 3" |
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| 17:00.53 | Eulex | yang, sorry, I never used the 'fallback' option in menu.lst |
| 17:01.11 | edwin_quijada | There is app to become a linux like kisok |
| 17:01.14 | edwin_quijada | kiosk? |
| 17:01.32 | aixenv | yang: me either |
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| 17:02.39 | sharp15 | using the debianadmin link provided earlier if installed nfs and began to configure. problem is the tutorial mentions installing portmap but not what to do with it. |
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| 17:02.57 | sharp15 | mounting gives this error: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking |
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| 17:03.16 | sharp15 | what am i missing to get this nfs mount working? |
| 17:03.31 | aixenv | did you install portmap? |
| 17:03.34 | tuxcrafter | ok how do I isntall debian with an usb stick |
| 17:03.43 | tuxcrafter | it seems all that work do not anymore |
| 17:03.49 | sharp15 | aixenv: yes. it is installeb. |
| 17:03.52 | sharp15 | *installed |
| 17:04.10 | AcTiVaTe | Shadur: How about starting rpc.statd like the mesage suggests? |
| 17:04.17 | AcTiVaTe | oops |
| 17:04.29 | sharp15 | how? |
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| 17:05.37 | aixenv | you need the network lock manager running sharp |
| 17:05.44 | aixenv | rpc.statd and rpc.lockd |
| 17:06.51 | aixenv | sharp15: use this http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:RRKnFW9rWd4J:publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/systems/topic/com.ibm.aix.commadmn/doc/commadmndita/nfs_netlocktrblsh.htm+rpc.statd+is+not+running&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us |
| 17:07.08 | pobega | Can anyone privately explain PGP/GPG to me? Perhaps over messages or AIM/MSN/Jabber |
| 17:07.21 | aixenv | pobega: encrypts email |
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| 17:07.37 | et | -email |
| 17:07.39 | pobega | No, I know what it does, I just forgot key things about it and I don't wanna spam #debian with stupid questions |
| 17:07.44 | aixenv | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy |
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| 17:08.07 | pobega | Like, I mean, HOW to go about using it, and certain specific questions for my computer setup |
| 17:08.14 | sharp15 | pobega: did you try #gnupg ? channel's usually slow though. |
| 17:08.27 | pobega | sharp15: No, I didn't, hopefully someone is alive there |
| 17:08.30 | aixenv | pobega: why use it though if you don't have a reason to use it? |
| 17:08.42 | aixenv | i mean, like.. you'd have to have a reason to use it to make use of it |
| 17:09.18 | pobega | I don't trust my ISP, or anyone for that matter. |
| 17:09.42 | aixenv | ok, fair enough |
| 17:09.47 | pobega | is somewhat a security freak |
| 17:09.51 | aixenv | id just ask your questions, not like this channel is hoppin' |
| 17:10.17 | aixenv | make sure you use an email client that supports encryption is one thing to consider |
| 17:10.19 | pobega | Okay. I setup GPG on my old laptop, I TOTALLY forgot how I configured mutt/ssmtp to use it, and I also don't know if I can use the same key from the old lappy. Can I? |
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| 17:10.30 | pobega | I did it two years ago |
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| 17:10.44 | aixenv | yes you can use the old keys, there's probably a /$someuser/.gnupg folder |
| 17:10.54 | pobega | It's as simple as just copying it? |
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| 17:11.14 | aixenv | heh my boss would like you.. he only uses mutt |
| 17:11.16 | cognitiaclaeves | what would cause an installation of Etch to immediate close an FTP connection while nothing is listening on port 21? |
| 17:11.18 | pobega | I'd actually like a seperate key for my Eee PC actually...Anyone know of a good tutorial for key generating and managing? |
| 17:11.44 | sharp15 | pobega: key should be fine. depends on disposal method of old machine. |
| 17:11.54 | aixenv | http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm |
| 17:11.57 | aixenv | read that one pobega |
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| 17:12.10 | aixenv | might find some use out of it |
| 17:12.16 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: not possible |
| 17:12.19 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: dude |
| 17:12.29 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: if you dont have ftp running it'll do that |
| 17:12.39 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: that's the expected behaviour |
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| 17:12.49 | cognitiaclaeves | It's got to be possible. I thought it refused the connection if it wasn't running? |
| 17:12.53 | wols | if connection is refused there is nothing open and there never was a connection |
| 17:12.53 | aixenv | one sec cognitiaclaeves, ill pastebin the expected behavior |
| 17:12.55 | karlpinc | How is it that I'm getting mail from cron with no subject. I thought cron put the command it runs (that generates the output which is mailed) into the subject. |
| 17:13.03 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: no |
| 17:13.05 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: negative, |
| 17:13.16 | cognitiaclaeves | ahh.. ok. |
| 17:13.38 | aixenv | http://pastebin.com/d5bb3b4b9 |
| 17:13.52 | aixenv | ^^^ expected behaviour when you arent running ftp daemon/server |
| 17:14.08 | cognitiaclaeves | Yes. The connection was refused. |
| 17:14.14 | aixenv | thats what you want :P |
| 17:14.17 | aixenv | if you arent running ftp |
| 17:14.23 | aixenv | which i strongly advise against |
| 17:14.29 | cognitiaclaeves | That's not what I'm getting. I'm getting "closed". |
| 17:14.39 | aixenv | pastebin me your ftp localhost |
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| 17:14.42 | cognitiaclaeves | And, yes, I'm aware of the security problems. |
| 17:14.49 | aixenv | are you getting any welcome banner? |
| 17:15.13 | cognitiaclaeves | ftp localhost gives me refused. ftp from address gives me connection closed by remote host. |
| 17:15.23 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: you've been told long ago to pastebin the result of the above command. finally DO IT |
| 17:15.42 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: there is a proxy. e.g. your ISP which does it |
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| 17:16.01 | aixenv | ^^^ what wols said |
| 17:16.07 | aixenv | i cant help you if i cant see what its doing |
| 17:16.28 | Eulex | !tell screamingbytes about confmiss |
| 17:16.28 | aixenv | also, if you nmap -sT localhost and dont see ftp. odds are you arent running ftp |
| 17:16.35 | cognitiaclaeves | In the case of a proxy, will I still see traffic on tcpdump on that port on the host? |
| 17:16.36 | aixenv | or netstat |
| 17:16.59 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: do you have a router? |
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| 17:17.24 | cognitiaclaeves | I'm not the network admin here. ... I'm trying to decide if this my issue, or if I need to involve the admin. |
| 17:17.26 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: pastebin BOTH, ftp localhsot and ftp <the ip you tried> |
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| 17:17.39 | cognitiaclaeves | Ok, wols. |
| 17:17.45 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: you could pastbin the command like i asked and we'd help you... |
| 17:17.54 | wols | cognitiaclaeves: and unless you are able to do what we ask of you, we cannot and will not help you |
| 17:18.26 | aixenv | and im no network admin, im a goat herder by profession |
| 17:18.34 | nvz | heh |
| 17:18.43 | nvz | wow, don't let Dave2 hear you say that |
| 17:18.50 | cognitiaclaeves | Goat herders rock. |
| 17:19.00 | aixenv | high technology nowadays.. im herding my goats while irc'n on my phone lol |
| 17:19.22 | nvz | haha |
| 17:19.25 | aixenv | ok bad joke...i thought it was funny |
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| 17:21.06 | aixenv | where's that pastebin |
| 17:21.07 | cognitiaclaeves | aixenv: There is no nmap... just a plain netstat? or netstat -pan ? |
| 17:21.16 | aixenv | pastebin ftw pls |
| 17:21.20 | cognitiaclaeves | working on it. One the third command. |
| 17:21.23 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:21.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 17:21.30 | cognitiaclaeves | ftw? |
| 17:21.31 | aixenv | pastebin takes like 2 seconds man |
| 17:21.38 | aixenv | sorry gamer talk... ftw = for the win |
| 17:21.57 | cognitiaclaeves | I had three commands... I'm almost done, but didn't have nmap... so I asked about the options for netstat. |
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| 17:22.00 | Kovensky | !ftw |
| 17:22.00 | dpkg | breaks into the front and goes FOR THE WIN |
| 17:22.15 | aixenv | lol |
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| 17:22.32 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: you already did netstats earlier and stated nothing |
| 17:22.36 | aixenv | i suggested lsof also |
| 17:22.41 | aixenv | but netstat would be sufficient |
| 17:23.04 | linomix | I suggest iptables -L |
| 17:23.08 | cognitiaclaeves | http://www.pastebin.ca/1228565 |
| 17:23.32 | aixenv | dude |
| 17:23.39 | aixenv | you get the exact same thing i get |
| 17:23.40 | b-04 | i need a mp3 player |
| 17:23.48 | pobega | Hm. Another GPG question - How do I do one of those things with the public keyrings and whatnot? |
| 17:23.48 | aixenv | if localhost = the computer in questin |
| 17:23.49 | b-04 | what is the best ? |
| 17:23.53 | abrotman | !tell b-04 about search |
| 17:23.55 | abrotman | !tell b-04 about popcon |
| 17:23.57 | aixenv | *question |
| 17:24.01 | cognitiaclaeves | aixenv: Not for outside of localhost. |
| 17:24.21 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: arnet you just concerned about if your computer runs ftp? |
| 17:24.26 | cognitiaclaeves | unless you get Connection closed from outside of localhost... |
| 17:24.28 | aixenv | cognitiaclaeves: i can tell you.. localhost doesn't run ftp |
| 17:24.36 | SamuraiDio | what is the default experimental priority? |
| 17:24.36 | Wolfcastle | what is this "lenny-proposed-updates" that synaptic added to my sources.list? |
| 17:24.39 | aixenv | isnt that what the concern was? |
| 17:24.45 | cognitiaclaeves | No, I want to make proftpd work... |
| 17:25.03 | cognitiaclaeves | ... and I can't do it while I'm getting something closing the connection automatically. |
| 17:25.17 | abrotman | Wolfcastle: you should probably take that out |
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| 17:25.26 | aixenv | otp |
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| 17:25.46 | Wolfcastle | abrotman: ok, do you know what kind of packages this installs? |
| 17:26.07 | abrotman | Wolfcastle: it installs packages that are planned to go into lenny, but can be pulled back |
| 17:26.16 | Wolfcastle | i see |
| 17:26.21 | Wolfcastle | thank you I will remove this |
| 17:26.29 | cognitiaclaeves | crap, never mind... |
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| 17:27.01 | sharp15 | is there a standard iptables config location? i set my firewall up months ago and can't remember where the files are. |
| 17:27.14 | abrotman | sharp15: nope .. there is not |
| 17:27.25 | Wolfcastle | how about security updates for lenny? should I add a line for that? |
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| 17:27.39 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
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| 17:29.26 | cr3rzemjest | what to do if, when i switch from X server to text mode, everything is messed up? e.g. login prompt is in the middle of the screen and every line ends on left |
| 17:29.41 | cr3rzemjest | is broken |
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| 17:30.13 | abrotman | Wolfcastle: should already be there |
| 17:30.40 | denysonique | How can I 'clean' a package using apt. I want to do a completely fresh mysql install |
| 17:31.38 | denysonique | reinstall* |
| 17:31.51 | linomix | sharp15: use iptables if you want to see your last comfiguration |
| 17:32.18 | abrotman | denysonique: purge it .. install it |
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| 17:33.37 | denysonique | abrotman: I am new to debian. yeah aptitude purge. |
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| 17:33.44 | denysonique | abrotman: thank you. |
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| 17:34.01 | joh | /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.sh -sign gives me: "27066:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:pem_lib.c:644:Expecting: CERTIFICATE REQUEST" |
| 17:34.50 | pobega | How do I check my ASCII armored GPG key? |
| 17:34.53 | Wolfcastle | is there something wrong with this line in sources.list? |
| 17:34.54 | Wolfcastle | deb http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 17:35.13 | Wolfcastle | I get Not found for all those sections |
| 17:36.55 | tmp_ | sharp15: grep for iptables in /etc/init.d/* ? |
| 17:38.00 | tmp_ | sharp15: Or /etc/network/if-up.d/* ? |
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| 17:38.39 | stew | Wolfcastle: the main mirror wouldn't use "testing/updates" but just testing. if you are trying to get security updates, you should have an additional line for security.debian.org: /msg dpkg testing security |
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| 17:39.31 | Wolfcastle | stew: yes I have security updates added already |
| 17:39.39 | stew | sharp15: there is no standard location. the recommendation would be to save your firewall config with iptables-save and then call iptables-restore to restore it in a 'pre-up' line in /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) |
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| 17:39.52 | Wolfcastle | ok so only testing is enough and packages will still be updated? |
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| 17:40.04 | abrotman | Wolfcastle: that's not a security mirror |
| 17:40.18 | abrotman | Wolfcastle: and you probably want to point at 'lenny' not 'testing' |
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| 17:41.05 | Wolfcastle | http://pastebin.com/f2f43770b |
| 17:41.12 | Wolfcastle | This should be valid right |
| 17:41.24 | Wolfcastle | but I prefer testing |
| 17:43.32 | stew | Wolfcastle: some of the comments are wrong, but the deb lines are correct for 'testing'. Packages will be updated, but right now it will be very infrequent since testing is currently frozen |
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| 17:45.44 | Wolfcastle | stew: OK thanx man |
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| 17:46.52 | sharp15 | thanks tmp_ |
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| 17:48.09 | tmp_ | sharp15: One of those worked? |
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| 17:49.12 | sharp15 | tmp_: yes. the if-up.d one had a file reference i needed. |
| 17:49.43 | tmp_ | sharp15: Okay, cool. |
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| 17:51.56 | Barvinok | Hi all! I'm running a router with embedded GNU/Linux that seems to be some sort of Debian. Here's the sequence of shell commands to bring up a tunnel - http://fpaste.org/paste/7702 . It works. But I want it to be in /etc/network/interfaces . How this can be done? Tried alot but can not google of ./interfaces example with tunnels :( |
| 17:52.51 | abrotman | man 5 interfaces |
| 17:53.37 | Barvinok | wish it could be that easy. router firmware was stripped of man pages to conserve size and there's no live Debian installation around |
| 17:54.08 | sharp15 | Barvinok: have a debian box? knoppix or dsl vm? |
| 17:54.09 | wols | Barvinok: how do youz know it's debian? |
| 17:54.13 | beardy | It is that easy. You think it's not available on the web? |
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| 17:54.36 | wols | Barvinok: manpages.debian.net |
| 17:54.43 | Barvinok | sharp15: it is Linksys WRT54GSV4 router with FreeWRT firmware. |
| 17:54.55 | wols | Barvinok: that's not debian then |
| 17:55.05 | Barvinok | wols: I don't but since it uses /etc/network/interfaces I guess it is at least close to Debian |
| 17:55.09 | sharp15 | Barvinok: i meant for the man pages. but wols' solution is better. |
| 17:55.10 | beardy | It's not Debian, as we all knew from the start. |
| 17:55.11 | wols | no |
| 17:55.13 | beardy | WRONG. |
| 17:55.16 | wols | ubuntu siN#t debian either and has the file |
| 17:55.31 | Barvinok | wols: thanks, I'll take a look |
| 17:55.57 | Eulex | heh, took some time for me to interpret 'sin#t' |
| 17:56.19 | beardy | Same here. |
| 17:56.47 | simonrvn | "isn't", isn't it? |
| 17:56.57 | karlpinc | Any suggestions for googling as to why I'm getting mail from cron with no subject? |
| 17:57.00 | Barvinok | i actually don't care what linux distro Linksys was using for their original firmware, I only want the aforementioned commands to be translated to ./interfaces syntax. thank you all for pointing me to manpages. |
| 17:57.03 | beardy | AFAICT |
| 17:57.16 | simonrvn | was joking |
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| 17:57.49 | sharp15 | what ports would nfs need open in the firewall? anything with portmap/rpc.* attached to it? |
| 17:58.04 | HugeScrotum | nfs through a firewall is going to suck |
| 17:58.23 | simonrvn | if you're gonna do that, make it so it's bound to the default port instead of a random one |
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| 17:59.04 | sharp15 | HugeScrotum: it's a local firewall on the server. runs through my vpn which should be accepting everything on all ports but i still cant contact rpc.statd |
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| 17:59.26 | karlpinc | sharp15 : Its udp, iirc. |
| 17:59.39 | simonrvn | can be either |
| 17:59.45 | simonrvn | default udp, yes |
| 17:59.45 | sharp15 | simonrvn: do you know what setting that is? |
| 18:00.01 | Barvinok | Just checked manpages.debian.net for "man 5 interfaces". In fact, there's only mention of the tunnel in the section describing ip6-ip4 tunnelting |
| 18:00.04 | simonrvn | man nfs; man exports |
| 18:00.08 | Barvinok | whereas i'm using ipip mode |
| 18:00.14 | simonrvn | it'll bind to 1029 |
| 18:00.22 | Barvinok | so my question is still in .... |
| 18:00.28 | dasenjo | Hi everybody! I'm getting a weird behavior in my server. It has two bonds configured, one with an internet address and other with a lan one. In the lan there is also another host that has connection with my server. Although I have set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1 and the host default gateway is my server it can't access internet, I have also used tcpdump and I can see the packets in the server internet bond but, can someone help me? |
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| 18:04.59 | psychonate | dasenjo, is the LAN host able to ping the outside world if you specify an IP? (e.g. specify google's IP rather than www.google.com) |
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| 18:05.12 | sploozer | I have samba running on my debian box and users can mount shares but it prompts them for a password and it is configured yet a password prompt still occurs when mounting ...a simple enter at the password prompt is suffice, how do I enforce a password for all guests without them putting in a username? Can I setup a password for a specific sharer? since there is a Shares.conf file.... |
| 18:05.49 | dasenjo | psychonate, no, in fact .. i want to ping an IP .. I'm not working with names, just numbers .. |
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| 18:06.20 | psychonate | dhcp server or static? |
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| 18:06.39 | dasenjo | static |
| 18:06.46 | deepfriedsquirre | Goodday - I can't connect to the Internet on Debian live. Here is the output of "ifconfig -a" and some of the output of lspci: http://pastebin.com/m267f3107 . Thanks in advance. |
| 18:06.50 | sharp15 | simonrvn: i don't see any information on controlling the server's listening port in either of those documents. |
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| 18:07.11 | simonrvn | ok, hold on, lemme remember where it is |
| 18:07.29 | epsilon | deepfriedsquirre: you have no IP address on eth |
| 18:07.41 | epsilon | deepfriedsquirre: do you have any hdcp server running in network? |
| 18:08.18 | deepfriedsquirre | I don't know about having one running in the network, but I usually use DHCP to connect to the Internet. |
| 18:08.26 | deepfriedsquirre | Thanks |
| 18:08.37 | simonrvn | sharp15: man rpc.statd /etc/default/nfs-common ; man rpc.mountd /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server |
| 18:08.51 | sploozer | anyone have any good links on configuring samba in Debian? |
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| 18:08.58 | epsilon | deepfriedsquirre: try "dhclient eth1" |
| 18:09.03 | simonrvn | google does |
| 18:09.12 | deepfriedsquirre | Cheers. Any other advice before I reboot? |
| 18:09.21 | epsilon | why reboot? |
| 18:09.56 | epsilon | sploozer: if you can live with a web interface, try SWAT |
| 18:10.00 | deepfriedsquirre | To go into Debian Live. |
| 18:10.13 | epsilon | deepfriedsquirre: pray |
| 18:10.31 | deepfriedsquirre | And here's the output of ifconfig in SLAX if this helps in any way: http://pastebin.com/m3b034043 |
| 18:10.48 | simonrvn | !reboot |
| 18:10.48 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 18:10.51 | deepfriedsquirre | I'm on SLAX now. |
| 18:10.59 | aixenv | my experience with SWAT has always been negative |
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| 18:11.28 | aixenv | im not a fan of anything that butchers conf files.. |
| 18:11.29 | epsilon | for quick and dirty, it helps |
| 18:11.47 | torrr | what happen if I dd a 250GB disk partion to a 320GB partition? |
| 18:11.48 | deepfriedsquirre | Thanks simonrvn, but I have to, since I need to go on the Internet for IRC to ask how to fix my network on the other system. |
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| 18:12.15 | dasenjo | psychonate, any idea? |
| 18:12.16 | deepfriedsquirre | aixenv: Oh, I am. I get along pretty well with nvidia-xconfig you know :P |
| 18:12.25 | deepfriedsquirre | But each to his own |
| 18:12.29 | deepfriedsquirre | Cheerio :P |
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| 18:12.48 | wols | torrr: makes no sense |
| 18:12.55 | unixSnob | voice plz |
| 18:13.09 | unixSnob | opps, wrong channel.. sory |
| 18:13.24 | wols | oops. dd. |
| 18:13.32 | wols | torrr: you get a 250GB filesystem |
| 18:13.41 | edwin_quijada | How can I run linux without login? |
| 18:13.42 | wols | the rest will be empty and unusable |
| 18:13.53 | psychonate | dasenjo, obviously there's some kind of issue with the IP masquerading setup, but I doubt I know enough to diagnose it. I had trouble with mine until I used a dhcp server :( |
| 18:13.58 | wols | edwin_quijada: you can't. you can login automatically |
| 18:14.00 | edwin_quijada | I want to go in without user/pass to bash mode |
| 18:14.25 | psychonate | dasenjo, might be worth trying a dhcp server setup just to see if it works at all actually |
| 18:14.31 | edwin_quijada | wols: OK, where I can put the login and password to get in automaticalyy |
| 18:14.33 | wols | dasenjo: why can't your use ipmasq? |
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| 18:14.41 | wols | edwin_quijada: depends on how you login |
| 18:14.53 | edwin_quijada | wols: text mode? |
| 18:15.02 | wols | edwin_quijada: then I dunno, sorry |
| 18:15.05 | edwin_quijada | i did ig kdm |
| 18:15.24 | dustybin | http://ostatic.com/173717-blog/release-critical-bugs-delay-release-of-debian-lenny |
| 18:15.31 | cr3rzemjest | what to do if, when i switch from X server to text mode, everything is messed up? e.g. login prompt is in the middle of the screen and every line ends on left |
| 18:15.42 | karlpinc | Crud. Gooling for "no subject" is useless. :( |
| 18:15.52 | wols | cr3rzemjest: often a X video driver problem |
| 18:16.03 | unixSnob | wouldn't single-user mode avoid logging in? |
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| 18:16.22 | dasenjo | wols, I imagine I can, but I don't even know it .. :p |
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| 18:16.31 | wols | !tell dasenjo about ipmasq |
| 18:16.57 | wols | dasenjo: also tell us how you set up the netwok in the client and the server (lan side) |
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| 18:18.35 | amirlovenepal | does debian support 8 GB ram on 32 bit |
| 18:18.36 | amirlovenepal | ? |
| 18:18.44 | dasenjo | wols, my server has a lan address in bond1 and my host has a lan address in its single nic. the host default gw is the server lan address .. |
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| 18:19.09 | psychonate | did you setup the iptables? |
| 18:19.26 | dasenjo | there is any iptables .. |
| 18:19.29 | wols | dasenjo: ipconfig and route output from both involved PCs when you are unable to clearly answer |
| 18:19.32 | dasenjo | nor in the server or the host |
| 18:19.35 | wols | *ifconfig |
| 18:19.39 | wols | dasenjo: into a pastebin |
| 18:19.51 | wols | dasenjo: or your /etc/network/interfaces if you use static IPs |
| 18:19.58 | wols | also from both of course |
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| 18:19.59 | abrotman | amirlovenepal: yes ... -bigmem kernels |
| 18:22.38 | amirlovenepal | abrotman, so we have to recompile the kernel |
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| 18:23.41 | abrotman | amirlovenepal: no .. why? |
| 18:23.43 | abrotman | amirlovenepal: etch and up have kernels that end in -bigmem .. they suppport up to 64GB on 32bit x86 systems |
| 18:23.48 | abrotman | amirlovenepal: apt-cache search bigmem |
| 18:24.02 | dasenjo | wols, http://pastebin.com/m6357da31 |
| 18:24.20 | cognitiaclaeves | anyone here have proftpd working? It seems to hang either after getting user or before or at asking for password... |
| 18:24.30 | abrotman | cognitiaclaeves: try passive mode? |
| 18:24.32 | dasenjo | server->bond1 and host->eth0 have connection |
| 18:25.39 | wols | dasenjo: your gateway is the public address. ALL inet traffic goes over that |
| 18:25.49 | dasenjo | yes |
| 18:25.56 | dasenjo | in the server .. |
| 18:26.07 | wols | and you said you couldn't ping the inet frm the server |
| 18:26.12 | dasenjo | and the server lan address in the host .. |
| 18:26.24 | dasenjo | I do can ping internet from the server .. |
| 18:26.33 | wols | then state your problem more clearly |
| 18:26.40 | dasenjo | then, I made a mistake .. |
| 18:26.51 | psychonate | are you able even to ping the server from the LAN host? |
| 18:26.55 | dasenjo | I can't ping internet from my host .. |
| 18:27.01 | dasenjo | yes |
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| 18:27.09 | dasenjo | i can ping the server from the lan host .. |
| 18:27.27 | wols | dasenjo: are you using ipmasq now? |
| 18:27.31 | dasenjo | nop .. |
| 18:27.40 | dasenjo | only reading about it .. |
| 18:27.43 | wols | dasenjo: then your iptables script is wrong in some way |
| 18:27.52 | dasenjo | there is any iptables .. |
| 18:28.02 | dasenjo | nor in the host or the server |
| 18:28.06 | wols | unless you use iptables, no inet access for your host |
| 18:28.07 | wols | the end |
| 18:28.14 | dasenjo | :o |
| 18:28.21 | wols | you must setup IP masquerading. hence: ipmasq |
| 18:28.25 | dasenjo | is this an issue? |
| 18:28.39 | wols | install it already in the server |
| 18:28.42 | dasenjo | I have made that many many times with ethernet nics .. |
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| 18:29.03 | wols | no you don't with private RFC1918 IPs |
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| 18:29.14 | wols | you only have one public, routable IP, right? |
| 18:29.22 | dasenjo | right |
| 18:29.31 | wols | then you must use NAT |
| 18:29.52 | wols | and you never did it otherwise. unless you have your own (public) subnet |
| 18:30.07 | dasenjo | I don't think so .. I can do just routing .. |
| 18:30.10 | dasenjo | without nat .. |
| 18:30.12 | cognitiaclaeves | abrotman: Passive mode doesn't connect either. |
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| 18:30.33 | simonrvn | not with non-routables dasenjo |
| 18:30.38 | wols | dasenjo: if you know better, stop asking. goodbye |
| 18:31.08 | abrotman | cognitiaclaeves: try cranking up verbosity |
| 18:31.34 | dasenjo | simonrvn, that is what I think .. but .. what route can I add? |
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| 18:31.39 | cognitiaclaeves | abrotman: Nevermind. It helps to run the service... |
| 18:31.39 | J_P | hi all |
| 18:31.47 | dasenjo | I can't imagine it .. |
| 18:31.54 | abrotman | cognitiaclaeves: that's crazy talk |
| 18:31.58 | cognitiaclaeves | lol |
| 18:31.59 | abrotman | (calling it a service i mean) |
| 18:32.06 | cognitiaclaeves | oh. |
| 18:32.08 | J_P | people, how I get PID of one process with ps or other tool ? |
| 18:32.09 | cognitiaclaeves | Why? |
| 18:32.21 | wols | J_P: pidof <name> |
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| 18:33.37 | leoventura | fdisk |
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| 18:33.59 | J_P | wols: ok |
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| 18:35.12 | dasenjo | wols, I don't know better .. I just want to understand .. you seem a quite .. religious .. |
| 18:35.37 | wols | dasenjo: please stop talking to me |
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| 18:36.07 | dasenjo | thanks anyway .. I'm gonna configure my firewall and keep googling .. |
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| 18:37.06 | aixenv | wow wtf? |
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| 18:37.14 | aixenv | "you seem a quite.. religious.. " ?? |
| 18:37.16 | J_P | wols: jpillati@neo:~$ pidof 'python shour.py' not works.. in man pidof not show how works one pricess with two names.. |
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| 18:37.57 | wols | J_P: there are no 2 names. shour.py is a commandline argument |
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| 18:38.44 | wols | aixenv: genasys employees have shown stupidity before. no worries |
| 18:38.46 | stew | J_P: it would show up with "pidof python" but that might return things you don't want, you might try "pgrep shour.py" instead |
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| 18:38.58 | J_P | stew: ahh ok |
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| 18:39.40 | sharp15 | simonrvn: ok. i have progress now. rpc is able to connect. "mount: mount to NFS server <hostname> failed: RPC Error: Success." |
| 18:39.56 | perlsyntax | how do i update my debian? |
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| 18:40.10 | sharp15 | perlsyntax: use aptitude or synaptic? |
| 18:40.15 | wols | perlsyntax: upgrade to what exactly? |
| 18:40.29 | perlsyntax | i try to install pidgin |
| 18:41.57 | perlsyntax | when i try to download gnome-ppp ask me to put a cd in. |
| 18:42.02 | perlsyntax | that odd |
| 18:42.22 | perlsyntax | why would it do that for? |
| 18:42.51 | perlsyntax | wols? |
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| 18:43.12 | perlsyntax | anyone? |
| 18:43.26 | sharp15 | perlsyntax: did you install from a cd? |
| 18:43.30 | wols | cause you have a cdrom entry in your sources.list |
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| 18:43.34 | stew | perlsyntax: remove the cd lines from /etc/apt/sources.list ; /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 18:43.48 | wols | remove it and put only debian repositorieis (ftp and http) in there and it won't |
| 18:43.52 | perlsyntax | how do i do that? |
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| 18:44.42 | perlsyntax | wols, How do i do that? |
| 18:44.51 | perlsyntax | ok |
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| 18:45.07 | wols | perlsyntax: stew told you |
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| 18:46.37 | perlsyntax | thanks |
| 18:46.51 | sharp15 | assuming simonrvn is away from his machine or wants me to leave him alone ... anyone else know what "mount: mount to NFS server <server name> failed: RPC Error: Success." means? google isn't being helpful. |
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| 18:47.48 | stew | perlsyntax: sensible-editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:48.01 | perlsyntax | it works now thanks alot. |
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| 18:50.22 | b-04 | hi |
| 18:50.34 | b-04 | how to mount my ntfs partition in debian? |
| 18:51.00 | perlsyntax | what a good gcc for debian? |
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| 18:52.02 | perlsyntax | never mind |
| 18:52.06 | donb | Hello. are Debian packages still updated using a backporting method? or are they upgraded like distributions such as Gentoo? |
| 18:53.11 | karlpinc | donb : Depends on the version of debian ask dpkg -about stable |
| 18:53.58 | stew | donb: once debian makes a release, it genearlly only updates it for security fixes until a completely new release is ready. there are backports, but they are not officially affiiliated with the project: /msg dpkg bpo ; there is also the exception of the 'volatile' repository, but it is very small: /msg dpkg volatile |
| 18:56.14 | donb | thanks guys |
| 18:56.31 | perlsyntax | debian rocks |
| 18:56.33 | donb | http://www.debian.org/security/faq#oldversion |
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| 19:00.01 | Makazei | Says ulimit is no longer supported in the man page. |
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| 19:03.10 | perlsyntax | where can i find a pidgin deb to download? |
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| 19:03.40 | wols | pidgin |
| 19:03.42 | dondelelcaro | Makazei: that's the syscal, not the shell routine |
| 19:03.42 | wols | !pidgin |
| 19:03.42 | dpkg | somebody said pidgin was formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch from backports.org, ask me about <backports.org> |
| 19:04.17 | OpisCossack | Man that is just silly. |
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| 19:05.55 | pistache | Hello. |
| 19:05.59 | alvare | hi |
| 19:06.01 | pistache | I've a got a really big problem |
| 19:06.23 | pistache | A small bug, but it's getting all my system down |
| 19:06.36 | alvare | tell me |
| 19:06.40 | wols | !enter |
| 19:06.40 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 19:07.00 | pistache | Okay wols, sorry |
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| 19:08.33 | pistache | I'm trying to run Conky under Compiz (with Gnome). Conky is running in a window, with transparancy and Compiz is setting its position by a window rule. Everything is working perfectly unless I press the "Show Desktop" button. If I do that, Conky crashes. Then, if I restart Conky, Gnome crashes. And if I restart Gnome, all the system crashes... |
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| 19:09.00 | pistache | And once Gnome have crashed, Xorg is taking 100% of the processor. And I can't kill it |
| 19:09.09 | alvare | what a chain effect! |
| 19:09.10 | pistache | Even with "killall -9 Xorg" |
| 19:09.23 | alvare | alt+petsis+f |
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| 19:10.04 | pistache | And a last detail : Even when Gnome have crashed, I still see a mouse icon in my TTYs... Weird, isn't it ? |
| 19:10.08 | et | alt-sysrq-k? |
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| 19:10.35 | pistache | No, it's not working. |
| 19:10.53 | pistache | If I run it in TTY2, it closes my TTY... And I need to relog |
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| 19:12.13 | pistache | Another thing weird, I cannot shutdown the computer. Maybe SYSRQ will work, but I can't do "init 0", "shutdown -h" or even "reboot" |
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| 19:12.28 | alvare | lol |
| 19:12.36 | perlsyntax | anyone know why my apt-get can't find pidgin? |
| 19:12.49 | pistache | Alt-sysrq-k > Sysrq : SAK |
| 19:13.04 | testi | What comes after debian lenny? debian carl? |
| 19:13.11 | stew | perlsyntax: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:13.23 | perlsyntax | 4.0 |
| 19:13.31 | et | pistache: you're supposed to use it on vt7 (or whatever x runs on ;)) |
| 19:13.37 | perlsyntax | i just a newbie at this. |
| 19:13.41 | pistache | et > Ah okay |
| 19:13.49 | stew | perlsyntax: when 4.0 was released pidgin didn't yet exist. so pidgin isn't in 4.0. you can use gaim which is the predecessor or use pidgin from backports: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 19:14.05 | pistache | et > Doing nothing... |
| 19:14.15 | perlsyntax | that sucks |
| 19:14.23 | pistache | Just writing "Sysrq : SAK" |
| 19:14.26 | stew | perlsyntax: why? |
| 19:14.28 | pistache | But Xorg is still running |
| 19:14.34 | perlsyntax | i like pidgin |
| 19:14.47 | perlsyntax | debian was easy to install. |
| 19:15.02 | stew | perlsyntax: you can still have pidgin easily |
| 19:15.07 | florist | perlsyntax: gaim is not too different from pidgin |
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| 19:16.13 | pistache | Okay. Alt+Sysrq+I worked. |
| 19:16.20 | pistache | And I'm now trying to restart GDM |
| 19:16.31 | pistache | But does anyone got an idea for the conky/compiz crash ? |
| 19:16.56 | stew | pistache: you should check the bts for the packages involved, though your situation seems odd enough that I'd suspect hardware problems (starting with memory), you might try running memtest86+ |
| 19:17.03 | pistache | And where should I file a bug report ? Compiz ? Conky ? Gnome ? Linux ? |
| 19:17.14 | pistache | stew > Ran memtest86+ a week ago |
| 19:17.19 | sharp15 | how do i get access to the current kernel configuration? |
| 19:17.27 | pistache | stew > What is the BTS ? |
| 19:17.29 | stew | sharp15: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 19:17.32 | stew | !bts |
| 19:17.32 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
| 19:17.40 | pistache | Okay thanks |
| 19:18.04 | SamuraiDio | hi, is there some environment variable that lists where libs are located? or just the /etc/ld.so.conf? |
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| 19:18.42 | pistache | stew > Ah. Weird problem when running Gnome : Internal Error : Failed to initialize HAL |
| 19:18.43 | stew | SamuraiDio: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is consulted also. man ld.so |
| 19:18.51 | fisxoj | I can't free any space on my / partition, whenever I do, it seems to just disappear, and now anything that needs temp space won't work (e.g. I can't print) |
| 19:19.05 | fisxoj | could someone help me figure this out? |
| 19:19.29 | sharp15 | and what is the replacement for update-modules? |
| 19:19.57 | SamuraiDio | stew, thanks |
| 19:20.06 | stew | sharp15: man modprobe.conf |
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| 19:21.09 | stew | fisxoj: "du -xk / | sort -n" will show you where the space is going |
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| 19:27.21 | fisxoj | stew: I found my problem! I had a program writing backups to my drive instead of an external |
| 19:27.28 | sharp15 | stew: thank you. |
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| 19:32.23 | sharp15 | ok now my nfs ports are all fixed ports. now to figure out how to connect to the thing. |
| 19:32.44 | _Sam-- | sharp15: mount -t nfs ? |
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| 19:34.03 | jkimball4 | Do i use the same -avz argument to rsync for receiving as i did for sending? |
| 19:34.23 | jkimball4 | Do i use the same -avz argument to rsync for receiving as i did for sending? |
| 19:34.25 | stew | jkimball4: sure |
| 19:34.40 | jkimball4 | oops |
| 19:34.42 | jkimball4 | thanks stew |
| 19:34.55 | jkimball4 | mastered sending, just not getting yet ;) |
| 19:35.20 | _Sam-- | they are the same thing -- you just change the directory being synched. |
| 19:35.52 | deepfriedsquirre | Would it be possible to use a .img file intended to be dd'd to a drive's device file in a custom persistant usb installation where you make your own partitions like the one here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install ? |
| 19:35.57 | _Sam-- | oskie: change the SRC and DST rsync [OPTION]... SRC [SRC]... DEST |
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| 19:36.12 | _Sam-- | er, damn nick completion. |
| 19:36.22 | jkimball4 | ha |
| 19:36.25 | _Sam-- | the command is exactly the same. |
| 19:36.25 | jkimball4 | i see it _Sam-- |
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| 19:36.40 | b-04 | hey..im got error installing fuse-utils |
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| 19:37.12 | sharp15 | _Sam--: sudo mount -t nfs host:/host/path /local/path is giving me the same error as last time "mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking" |
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| 19:38.24 | _Sam-- | on the box trying to mount the nfs, im not sure if this is needed or not, but did you do modprobe nfs ? |
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| 19:38.52 | sharp15 | i'm pretty sure i did. |
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| 19:39.02 | _Sam-- | it can do no harm to do it again. |
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| 19:40.11 | pablo | hi, the display manager authentification is done through pam? |
| 19:40.27 | Studiosus | after recent apt-get upgrade I got my clock set to +4 hours of my actual local time. In /etc/default/rcS i got UTC=no. HW clock set to correct value as /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh shows, but local time is +4 hours :(. TZ is Europe/Moscow. |
| 19:40.28 | sharp15 | i read this for making sure my firewall wasn't in the way http://wiki.debian.org/SecuringNFS?highlight=(nfs) . any idea which port it's supposed to be connecting to? |
| 19:40.41 | _Sam-- | on the box trying to mount the nfs....you have installed nfs-common? |
| 19:40.55 | sharp15 | _Sam--: box i'm trying to mount from is gentoo. |
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| 19:41.19 | abrotman | Studiosus: which version of debian? |
| 19:41.20 | _Sam-- | did you install nfs-common |
| 19:41.44 | Studiosus | abrotman testing |
| 19:41.58 | abrotman | Studiosus: see which packages got updated and check the BTS |
| 19:42.12 | sharp15 | _Sam--: i installed nfs-utils as their docs requested. no nfs-common exists. |
| 19:42.16 | _Sam-- | sharp15 : First, make sure you have the portmap service on, start the portmap daemon by issuing: /etc/init.d/portmap start |
| 19:42.52 | Studiosus | abrotman will try |
| 19:42.54 | sharp15 | _Sam--: portmap is up and running but all ports have been forced to remain static. i'm fairly certain portmap is no longer involved. |
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| 19:44.04 | b-04 | invoke-rc.d: initscript udev, action "reload" failed. - dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure): - Errors were encountered while processing: fuse-utils E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 19:44.26 | pablo | hi, the display manager authentification is done through pam? |
| 19:44.26 | _Sam-- | i see nfs-common for gentoo |
| 19:44.40 | _Sam-- | er maybe im wrong like usual. |
| 19:44.45 | b-04 | im try to install fuse-utils with apt-get |
| 19:44.56 | sharp15 | _Sam--: where. portage doesn't report it. |
| 19:45.04 | sharp15 | *where? |
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| 19:45.23 | JW | How do you figure out who the maintainer of a package is? |
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| 19:45.44 | abrotman | JW: apt-cache or packages.debian.org |
| 19:45.55 | _Sam-- | this is a gentoo how...part of it explains how to mount remote nfs: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_NFS |
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| 19:46.19 | abrotman | that'll probably be super useful on debian |
| 19:46.21 | JW | apt-cache -what? "maintainer" is not in the man page |
| 19:46.30 | _Sam-- | abrotman : he is mounting the dir from a gentoo machine. |
| 19:46.33 | abrotman | JW: apt-cache show |
| 19:47.01 | abrotman | _Sam--: can he mount it from a Debian box? he should probably be asking the gentoo people |
| 19:47.18 | sharp15 | _Sam--: i have read through that document already. |
| 19:47.36 | sharp15 | abrotman: i can ask them. i didn't realize that the mount procedure would be different. |
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| 19:47.52 | abrotman | sharp15: you also might want to check versions of nfs |
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| 19:48.41 | sharp15 | abrotman: you mean v3 as opposed to v4? |
| 19:49.32 | abrotman | yes |
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| 19:50.36 | sharp15 | the gentoo box has v3 available. i avoid compiling kernel modules marked experimental so i didn't compile v4. but according to kernel config debian has v3 available. |
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| 19:54.48 | sandman | Anyone have any trouble with 640x480 resolution in X? |
| 19:54.54 | sandman | Like the screen gets all garbled for some reason? |
| 19:55.27 | b-04 | abrotman, i have an error:P |
| 19:55.53 | b-04 | installing fuse-utils |
| 19:56.02 | b-04 | wit apt-get |
| 19:56.59 | b-04 | invoke-rc.d: initscript udev, action "reload" failed. - dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure): - Errors were encountered while processing: fuse-utils E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 19:59.22 | wols | b-04: a) do not paste here B) pastebin the real error |
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| 19:59.52 | b-04 | wols, im sorry |
| 19:59.59 | wols | b-04: fuse utils already installed or such? |
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| 20:00.04 | supermario | hi, how can i watch a directory, i mean to get notified whenever a new file written to the directory? |
| 20:00.19 | liri | ough |
| 20:00.24 | wols | and try to use the /etc/init.d/ script to start it |
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| 20:00.49 | liri | lenny netinstall only has the atl1 driver which doesn't detect my network card (it's supposed to be an atl2 driver) |
| 20:00.59 | sandman | Is there an easy way to make sure that a particular refresh rate for my monitor is _not_ used? |
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| 20:02.43 | wols | !atl2 |
| 20:02.43 | dpkg | from memory, atl2 is a driver for the Atheros L2 Fast Ethernet Adapter, used in some low-cost Asus laptop systems (eg. Asus Eee PC). Available for Etch (from 4.0r4a) and Lenny. To install driver for Debian stock kernels: "aptitude install atl2-modules-`uname -r` && modprobe atl2". Source packaged in 'atl2-source' (Lenny) and 'atl2-source-etchnhalf' (Etch). Not to be confused with <atl1>. See also <atl1e>. |
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| 20:03.12 | wols | liri: why do you need a network with netinstall? |
| 20:03.25 | _Sam-- | supermario : you could write a shell script to it. doesnt seem to be a popular monitoring request, but im not positive that one doesnt exist either. |
| 20:03.42 | _Sam-- | i know with 'mon' which i use for monitoring, you can monitor specific files, but not directories. |
| 20:03.42 | wols | judd: info famd |
| 20:03.45 | _Sam-- | (i think) |
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| 20:04.29 | _Sam-- | since i dont have experience with other monitoring tools like nagios, i cant say if it will or wont monitor a directory. |
| 20:04.36 | dudeman | judd, hi |
| 20:04.37 | judd | dudeman: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. |
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| 20:04.40 | dudeman | dumbass |
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| 20:05.41 | abrotman | or leave the bot alone? :) |
| 20:05.50 | aixenv | nagios can do just about anything |
| 20:05.59 | aixenv | because you can customize alerts based off scripts |
| 20:06.45 | aixenv | ie: we do checks off dir sizes, cpu, io, etc etc with nagios |
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| 20:06.58 | dudeman | heh, I was just tyring out a hello |
| 20:06.58 | stew | wols: hmm, i should have it say SOMETHING when you come up with a non-existant package name... (i think you meant fam not famd) |
| 20:07.16 | abrotman | aixenv: you mean for users? |
| 20:07.34 | torrr | what is used instead of nfs? |
| 20:07.38 | supermario | inotify would do the job. but I am looking foresomething that doesn't need installation |
| 20:07.41 | dudeman | what can I use to make flash animations while on debian? |
| 20:07.44 | supermario | within the OS |
| 20:07.44 | _Sam-- | torrr: samba? |
| 20:07.49 | aixenv | abrotman: we use nagios to monitor servers looking at the variety of normal things ppl monitor |
| 20:07.50 | dudeman | I have to run some virtual stuff? |
| 20:07.58 | abrotman | at Uni, we found out that the quota script ran as the user, so if you chmod a-rwx on a directory before you logged out, you could store as much crap as oyu wanted in there and the system would never warn you when you logged in |
| 20:08.03 | torrr | ? |
| 20:08.05 | dudeman | or something for linux that allows flash making? |
| 20:08.16 | abrotman | dudeman: we've told you before |
| 20:08.20 | dudeman | you have? |
| 20:08.26 | abrotman | yes .. |
| 20:08.28 | dudeman | I never asked that before |
| 20:08.32 | abrotman | yes you did |
| 20:08.33 | dudeman | I don't think I did anyway |
| 20:08.33 | torrr | is there a distributed file system? |
| 20:08.38 | dudeman | abrotman, well I forgot |
| 20:08.43 | abrotman | it was the same day as you "discovered" svg |
| 20:08.46 | dudeman | abrotman, oh |
| 20:08.48 | dudeman | OHHH |
| 20:08.50 | dudeman | I remember now! |
| 20:08.54 | aixenv | lol |
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| 20:09.06 | dudeman | oh yes I do... cool. |
| 20:09.12 | aixenv | kinda sad when someone else remembers your irc history moreso than you do yourself |
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| 20:09.13 | aixenv | lol |
| 20:09.26 | torrr | some button I have is acting like insert, and I don't know which it is :/ |
| 20:09.26 | dudeman | dude, his kid is here 18 hours out the day |
| 20:09.29 | dudeman | what do you think |
| 20:09.35 | abrotman | not quite |
| 20:09.41 | dudeman | if he isn't sleeping, hes on #debian |
| 20:09.42 | aixenv | "his" ? |
| 20:09.49 | abrotman | aixenv: "this" |
| 20:09.49 | dudeman | I've seen this routine for about 6 years now |
| 20:09.50 | dudeman | :) |
| 20:09.56 | abrotman | and that's not true |
| 20:09.56 | aixenv | ahh gotcha |
| 20:09.59 | dudeman | its almost true |
| 20:10.06 | aixenv | well nothing wrong with irc'n and being helpful |
| 20:10.12 | dudeman | nope, we aprpecaite it |
| 20:10.16 | aixenv | much better than a chan full of idles |
| 20:10.18 | liri | bolt-work: around? |
| 20:10.31 | aixenv | which is typically the norm |
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| 20:11.02 | jelly-home | aixenv: [irc history] one person's "sad" is another's "reminder of why using drugs is bad, mkay" |
| 20:11.08 | dudeman | I'm surprised he doesn't come to debian while he drives to work and back |
| 20:11.12 | dudeman | on his laptop |
| 20:11.13 | b-04 | how view what is the partition ntfs in /dev ? |
| 20:11.18 | dudeman | lol |
| 20:11.25 | aixenv | jelly-home: very true |
| 20:11.27 | b-04 | have any comand for view the partitions in /dev? |
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| 20:11.37 | aixenv | b-04: df -h ? |
| 20:11.46 | dudeman | jelly-home, hey dude.. I stop smoking weed like in march 12th |
| 20:11.47 | aixenv | b-04: mount ? |
| 20:11.56 | dudeman | havne't touched except once since then when i went to a concert |
| 20:11.58 | dudeman | that is it! |
| 20:12.01 | dudeman | so lay off |
| 20:12.03 | dudeman | :( |
| 20:12.11 | b-04 | the partitiont its not mounted |
| 20:12.20 | jelly-home | dudeman: and still there's permanent damage, it seems ;-) |
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| 20:12.25 | dudeman | well yeah |
| 20:12.27 | aixenv | i used to smoke when i was younger, now the only stuff i remember is computer related scripts/commands and my kids b-days lol |
| 20:12.33 | dudeman | it will take some time to heal my brain |
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| 20:12.38 | dudeman | rejuvinate my neurons |
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| 20:12.40 | aixenv | b-04: cat /etc/fstab ? |
| 20:12.43 | dudeman | anyway, I'm out I gotta work to do |
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| 20:12.45 | dudeman | bye, thanks |
| 20:12.48 | b-04 | thanks |
| 20:12.50 | b-04 | :) |
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| 20:13.09 | dudeman | I gotta make a flash animation for this client |
| 20:13.16 | dudeman | ugh. |
| 20:14.23 | b-04 | i mounted my ntfs partition in /mnt |
| 20:14.29 | b-04 | i cant access with my user |
| 20:14.36 | b-04 | only can access with root |
| 20:14.44 | aixenv | b-04: usually perms gonna be wide open with ntfs |
| 20:14.56 | b-04 | i need access with my usr |
| 20:15.00 | dudeman | you need to specify uid=,gid= in mount |
| 20:15.01 | aixenv | always or temp? |
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| 20:15.10 | b-04 | aham |
| 20:15.12 | dudeman | or it could be that user can't access the mountpoint? |
| 20:15.14 | dudeman | maybe |
| 20:15.22 | dudeman | the mount point perms before are importnat too i think |
| 20:15.22 | aixenv | probably that dudeman |
| 20:15.23 | b-04 | so, i need unmount |
| 20:15.32 | dudeman | umount |
| 20:15.41 | dudeman | alias unmount='umount' |
| 20:15.43 | dudeman | if you want |
| 20:15.59 | dudeman | it shoul've been called UNmount to beginw ith |
| 20:16.04 | dudeman | dunno which dumb genius made it umount |
| 20:16.23 | Lagbolt | i like umount . . less typing |
| 20:16.26 | b-04 | /dev/sda1 40G 22G 19G 54% /mnt |
| 20:16.31 | aixenv | less typing ftw |
| 20:16.36 | b-04 | umount /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 20:16.39 | dudeman | tab completion ftw |
| 20:16.40 | Lagbolt | i think it should be umnt ;) |
| 20:16.48 | dudeman | and it also works on custom bash alias |
| 20:16.49 | aixenv | b-04: and make sure you arent within that tree |
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| 20:16.50 | dudeman | aliases |
| 20:16.59 | bolt | wtf. i went from etch to lenny and now i can't mount my encfs anymore. it says my key is wrong. it's right. |
| 20:17.07 | DustyDingo | ltftw m! |
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| 20:18.32 | liri | hey bolt |
| 20:18.37 | _Sam-- | bolt: ouch. let me know how you fix that one, i rely on encfs for mission critical data. |
| 20:18.44 | bastard4 | http://www.slave.lt/konkursas/?key=29671c <- double click and close, thanks for your help |
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| 20:19.38 | bolt | _Sam--: just did. phew! time for a backup |
| 20:19.49 | _Sam-- | what was wrong, caps lock? |
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| 20:20.14 | bolt | _Sam--: apparently, the encfs in lenny can't read the .encfs5 files. it makes encfs6. i just pinned it to stable and downgraded. only encfs needed |
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| 20:20.20 | bolt | fuse is still in lenny's version |
| 20:20.36 | pickcoder | any recommendations for an e-sata controller that properly supports hotplug with 2.6.18? |
| 20:20.50 | bolt | scared there for a moment :/ |
| 20:21.02 | bolt | all my... private stuff :) |
| 20:21.10 | Lagbolt | bolt, is there something in the man page about that? i find it difficult to believe they would make new version unable to read old versions files |
| 20:21.15 | aixenv | s/private stuff/porn/g |
| 20:21.19 | b-04 | b-04:/# umount /mnt |
| 20:21.19 | b-04 | umount: /mnt: device is busy |
| 20:21.27 | aixenv | b-04: your'e probably within the dir |
| 20:21.36 | aixenv | make sure you dont have a shell within that dir |
| 20:21.39 | bolt | Lagbolt: might be a way to read the old ones. but i'm not upgrading again to check. |
| 20:21.45 | aixenv | and you dont umount /mnt |
| 20:21.53 | aixenv | there's something within mount |
| 20:21.55 | b-04 | mm im not in dir |
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| 20:22.01 | aixenv | whats your 'mount' look like? |
| 20:22.02 | stew | b-04: "fuser -m /mnt" will tell you which processes are using it |
| 20:22.13 | stew | aixenv: what is wrong with 'umount /mnt" |
| 20:22.28 | b-04 | /mnt: 21236c 25218c 25260c |
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| 20:22.32 | Nobody96 | salute |
| 20:22.53 | stew | b-04: 21236 25218 25260 are the pids then |
| 20:23.03 | b-04 | :D |
| 20:23.09 | b-04 | i go to kill -9 pid |
| 20:23.36 | bolt | Lagbolt: hm.. I have encfs 1.4.2 on another machine. i just tried plugging my usb drive in there. no cigar |
| 20:23.37 | _Sam-- | you could first find out if the processes are doing anything you need: ps auxw |grep 21236 etc. |
| 20:24.00 | bolt | Lagbolt: also skimmed through the man page. still no lung cancer |
| 20:24.02 | aixenv | stew: well depended on where he had it mounted, i didn't want to assume /mnt, as some ppl do like /mnt/drive , /mnt/cdrom/ etc |
| 20:24.08 | Lagbolt | bolt, strange. check config files? |
| 20:24.29 | _Sam-- | mmm lung cancer...i have to go get me some. |
| 20:24.42 | Nobody96 | could anyone here help me to get rid of the "lockd: cannot monitor" problem? |
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| 20:24.47 | stew | b-04: don't use kill -9 unless other ways of stopping them fail |
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| 20:25.06 | aixenv | kill -9 = one of your last resorts |
| 20:25.17 | fatherx | hi everyone |
| 20:25.20 | jkimball4 | Is there a systray-based alsamixer-type application? |
| 20:25.29 | bolt | Lagbolt: huge difference. 1.4.2 uses clearly readable XML. 1.2.5 seems to use monkey+keyboard to get random file |
| 20:25.35 | Nobody96 | jkimball4, gnome mixer applet? |
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| 20:26.10 | bolt | anyway. it works now. i'll just keep that package pinned. there's nothing i need in 1.4.2 |
| 20:26.12 | fatherx | im trying to install libnewt-dev with apt-get and aptitude and both send a msg/error saying cannot find package, any ideas of what could be the problem? |
| 20:26.20 | b-04 | i killed |
| 20:26.24 | b-04 | :D |
| 20:26.39 | b-04 | now.. i mount with permissions of all users |
| 20:27.21 | jkimball4 | Nobody96: not an applet, though. must be systray. i don't have gnome |
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| 20:27.35 | Nobody96 | fatherx, do you have sid in your sources list? |
| 20:27.43 | wireddd | I while ago, I installed a debian system via debootstrap and it works fine except when I copy files to it over the network via nfs the entire os slows to a near stop. I think it may have something to do with the default priority of processes or something |
| 20:27.54 | Nobody96 | jkimball4, sry, i dont know what was meant with systray |
| 20:28.09 | jkimball4 | Nobody96: I guess it's called the notification area, actually. |
| 20:28.12 | fatherx | Nobody96, ill find out |
| 20:28.25 | jkimball4 | An app like network manager tha tjust hangs around that area. |
| 20:28.31 | liri | bolt: I thought lenny is supposed to support the atl2 driver? |
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| 20:29.11 | bolt | liri: it worked for me. with 2.6.26-amd64 |
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| 20:29.40 | wireddd | at this point I am just out of ideas as to what it might be |
| 20:29.56 | Nobody96 | so anyone arround who could help me fixing my lockd issue? |
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| 20:32.07 | fatherx | Nobody96, should i put "deb http://ftp.debian.org dists/sid/" only? |
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| 20:32.49 | Snadder | Hi.. I have a abiword document I cant open in openoffice.. |
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| 20:33.38 | Snadder | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.51 | Snadder | When i do "file" on the document |
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| 20:34.12 | Nobody96 | fatherx, no you should add it because the package isnt in lenny or etch yet |
| 20:34.47 | nauticalthinker | snadder> what is the file extension? |
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| 20:35.17 | nauticalthinker | abw? |
| 20:35.37 | Octalot | snadder - reminds me of a bug I know, looking it up now |
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| 20:36.04 | Snadder | nauticalthinker: abw.. yes |
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| 20:36.19 | fatherx | Nobody96, ok so i will add "deb http://ftp.debian.org dists/sid/" to the list ? |
| 20:36.30 | nauticalthinker | oo doesn't know abw...I don't think. Do this: |
| 20:36.34 | nauticalthinker | open the file in Abi |
| 20:36.41 | nauticalthinker | save it as doc |
| 20:36.53 | Nobody96 | yepp |
| 20:36.53 | nauticalthinker | then open it open in Open Office Writer |
| 20:36.53 | mike-solidus | hey, i know this isn't related ot debian, but i'm having infinite recursion trouble with a makefile, anyone care to help, I have 3 directories, each with a qt project in them, i'm trying to write a makefile that will cd into each directory, run qmake, run make then cd out, but it goes into infinite recursion when it runse make in the recurssed directories, as if its running itself |
| 20:37.19 | fatherx | ok, thank you |
| 20:37.23 | Nobody96 | and add a APT::Default-Release "lenny"; or etch to your apt.conf if you dont want to migrate to unstable |
| 20:38.20 | abrotman | what? |
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| 20:38.34 | abrotman | fatherx: don't mix versions of debian |
| 20:38.59 | abrotman | !tell fatherx about ssb |
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| 20:39.04 | abrotman | !tell fatherx about backport |
| 20:39.11 | Octalot | Snadder / nauticalthinker : according to the package description, AbiWord has an export filter directly to ODT, without having to use MS-DOC as an intermediate version. |
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| 20:41.25 | fanti | hi there! how must the command line looks like for route when i want my notebook to send all data directly over the openvpn interface tun0 instead of sending it over ppp0 ? |
| 20:41.35 | Snadder | Octalot: problem is that I dont have abiword installed.. And I dont have glib 2.0 so I can install it. |
| 20:41.48 | Snadder | cant |
| 20:41.59 | Snadder | But ill get a friend to fix that tomorrow.. |
| 20:42.03 | nauticalthinker | abiword 2.6 will convert to odt |
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| 20:42.25 | themill | Nobody96: also, APT::Default-Release doesn't work with code names. |
| 20:42.31 | wols | !tell Snadder about backports |
| 20:42.56 | Snadder | wols: Im using asus eee xandros linux based on debian. |
| 20:43.02 | perlsyntax | How do i install kde desktop on debian? |
| 20:43.21 | wols | Snadder: then you are in the wrong channel |
| 20:43.22 | perlsyntax | ok |
| 20:43.27 | wols | !tell perlsyntax about grounding |
| 20:43.34 | perlsyntax | ? |
| 20:43.39 | themill | dpkg: tell perlsyntax about install kde |
| 20:43.46 | Snadder | wols: yep.. but the best channel :-p |
| 20:43.51 | wols | perlsyntax: you need to learn more before asking such questions constanlty |
| 20:43.56 | Nobody96 | themill, oh thank you |
| 20:43.57 | themill | perlsyntax: you can ask either google or dpkg directly |
| 20:44.02 | wols | Snadder: we don't give a fuck. go away or run debian |
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| 20:44.10 | Nobody96 | i was wondering why aptitude was so pro-sid |
| 20:44.15 | Snadder | wols. Hehe.. I do run debian at my home computer. |
| 20:44.23 | wols | Snadder: doesn't matter |
| 20:44.38 | nauticalthinker | he comes here for help not for us to tell him to go find it on his own...this channel is part of his learning |
| 20:45.18 | perlsyntax | i see |
| 20:45.21 | Snadder | wols: okay.. Ill prolly install debian on my asus eee 900 too.. Xandros linux is kinda fucked up. |
| 20:45.24 | wols | nauticalthinker: this channel expects to research on ones own before asking |
| 20:45.30 | Snadder | Godnight. |
| 20:45.33 | nauticalthinker | to install kde on debian...you can open konsole and type as root "apt-get install kde" |
| 20:45.41 | abrotman | you use aptitude |
| 20:45.46 | nauticalthinker | give me a break |
| 20:45.49 | themill | nauticalthinker: the question was already answered |
| 20:45.51 | wols | nauticalthinker: and his questions are all answered on debian.org and similar places directly. it's basic knowledge |
| 20:46.08 | abrotman | and probably xorg too |
| 20:46.13 | aixenv | isn't learning part of using google? |
| 20:46.21 | nauticalthinker | sure it is |
| 20:46.24 | aixenv | channels should be last resort not first |
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| 20:46.34 | fatherx | abrotman, i got lost with the backport thing |
| 20:46.35 | wols | nauticalthinker: which is why we have a grounding factoid for such people. if they are too lazy to read docs, we are too lazy to help. fair trade |
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| 20:46.50 | aixenv | lol |
| 20:46.53 | abrotman | fatherx: ti's a much better solution than mixing versions of debian |
| 20:46.54 | jester__ | agrees |
| 20:47.12 | nauticalthinker | so at what level must they be in order for us to supply futher knowledge |
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| 20:47.14 | wols | fatherx: go to backports.org and read the "instructions" link |
| 20:47.22 | aixenv | ill sometimes help them but i cry inside knowing i can find the answer with google in 5 seconds |
| 20:47.24 | wols | nauticalthinker: nothing to do with "level" |
| 20:47.29 | fatherx | ok thanks |
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| 20:47.38 | nauticalthinker | how about rank |
| 20:47.40 | wireddd | anyone care to shed some light on what could be causing one of my computers to run slow enough that a login times out when I am transfering a large file to it over the network? |
| 20:47.55 | wols | nauticalthinker: think before you type |
| 20:48.01 | aixenv | nauticalthinker: if someone comes in asking "zomg i dont know how to reboot my system please OMG HELP HELP".. do you not think.. wow.. read the debian faq/docs? |
| 20:48.12 | wireddd | the entire system runs extremely slow as well |
| 20:48.25 | aixenv | then usually after frowning to myself .. ill answer :P |
| 20:48.25 | nauticalthinker | come on guys...that is a little lame...don't you think |
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| 20:48.29 | wols | wireddd: first thing is to check which part of your hardware is maxed out |
| 20:48.33 | themill | nauticalthinker: we do like to think that people will try to help themselves first. |
| 20:48.45 | wols | nauticalthinker: yes you are lame. that's why I stop now |
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| 20:48.55 | aixenv | i only give 1-3 handouts per day |
| 20:48.55 | aixenv | lol |
| 20:49.10 | wireddd | wols, that is just it, nothing obvious seems to be |
| 20:49.17 | themill | nauticalthinker: for example, the first hit from google "debian install kde" has the answer. Is it too much to ask some to help themselves before asking us to spoon feed them. On an hourly basis. For days. |
| 20:49.21 | nauticalthinker | i understand that philosophy |
| 20:49.31 | wireddd | wols, I am not swapping, cpu use is minimal |
| 20:49.31 | wols | themill: years |
| 20:49.36 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 20:49.46 | jester__ | guys leave nauticalthinker let him answer every simple question... makes him happy and doesnt waste our time plus the noobs get ther simple answer and dont have to learn |
| 20:49.51 | themill | wols: perlsyntax has only been here for days so far :) |
| 20:49.53 | wols | nauticalthinker: btw, if you want that kind of "help", go to #ubuntu. they encourage it. watch the results |
| 20:49.56 | enouf | wireddd: spyware, malware, rookits |
| 20:49.59 | enouf | oh my |
| 20:50.04 | wireddd | it is a fresh install! |
| 20:50.09 | enouf | or .. stale nfs connections :-P |
| 20:50.10 | nauticalthinker | okay...you win |
| 20:50.13 | wols | themill: he's one in a long string. and it wouldn't be bad if he weren't the only lazy bugger |
| 20:50.21 | wireddd | nfs or scp makes no difference |
| 20:50.25 | enouf | wireddd: are your HDDs using DMA? |
| 20:50.38 | wireddd | it is a sata drive, and I am not sure |
| 20:50.39 | wols | if he were rather |
| 20:50.55 | nauticalthinker | maybe the more time I spend here...the more I'll understand...I'll give it some time |
| 20:50.59 | wols | wireddd: run top while its slowed down. it will tell you |
| 20:51.31 | enouf | right, and vmstat -1 maybe |
| 20:51.36 | wireddd | what am I looking for in top, because it looks like the system is near idle |
| 20:51.37 | enouf | er 1, no - |
| 20:51.52 | _Sam-- | iostat could also show somethings. |
| 20:51.58 | enouf | wireddd: then it's not running slow |
| 20:52.01 | enouf | :-P |
| 20:52.06 | wols | nauticalthinker: when such people come at first we do help them. but after the xth question like this we question their intentions. we are not free tech support you can call with inane questions. tech support gets paid. we don't |
| 20:52.37 | nauticalthinker | Now that was a much better explanation...thanks wols |
| 20:52.39 | wireddd | I can't login, the desktop is non responsive, I can't start a new ssh session, and the file transfer runs slower than it should over the network |
| 20:53.02 | liri | bolt: ahh... but which driver did you load? the atl1 or atl2? |
| 20:53.05 | enouf | wireddd: maybe your connection sucks |
| 20:53.08 | jester__ | can you try not starting with X |
| 20:53.34 | wireddd | it doesn't matter if X is running or not |
| 20:53.49 | _Sam-- | alot of times the io causes the load and unresponiveness. iostat might be a good tool to look at it. |
| 20:53.50 | jester__ | o |
| 20:53.57 | nauticalthinker | later guys... |
| 20:53.57 | _Sam-- | it is part of the sysstat package |
| 20:53.58 | wireddd | I am starting to wonder if the network driver has some kind of bug in it |
| 20:54.02 | enouf | 3 words, location ... ; er .. connection ; connection ; connection |
| 20:54.16 | wireddd | i'll give iostat a look |
| 20:54.27 | _Sam-- | wireddd : the two machines (NFS Server and NFS client) are on the same LAN? |
| 20:54.33 | wireddd | yeah |
| 20:54.37 | enouf | there's iotop as well, but .. well .. |
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| 20:54.58 | _Sam-- | wireddd : in iostat, keep an eye on the %iowait |
| 20:54.58 | wireddd | and the system is slow even if I am sitting at it while it is recieving a file |
| 20:55.12 | enouf | judd: versions iotop |
| 20:55.13 | judd | enouf: iotop: 0.2-3 (lenny) 0.2-3 (sid) |
| 20:55.25 | _Sam-- | wireddd: what kind of hardware is the nfs client machine? |
| 20:55.51 | wireddd | they are both just regular desktops |
| 20:55.55 | wireddd | on 100mbit |
| 20:55.56 | enouf | wireddd: so, take the net/conn/LAN/ssh out of the equation |
| 20:56.23 | enouf | wireddd: and tell us if the system is slow, period? or only while receiving/tranferring files? |
| 20:56.34 | aixenv | vmstat |
| 20:56.49 | wireddd | i'll have to throw another hard drive in it or something I guess |
| 20:56.52 | enouf | or, slow when using everything net/internet related only? |
| 20:57.02 | enouf | bah, you wuss |
| 20:57.21 | wireddd | system works great unless the network link is saturated |
| 20:57.39 | _Sam-- | the system slows down if you download like a big file over http, or only over nfs? |
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| 20:57.56 | wireddd | I haven't really tried http |
| 20:58.02 | enouf | wireddd: if i can clean all the crap off of XPoop and Blista computers and come up smelling like roses, you can find the bottleneck point |
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| 20:58.32 | enouf | wireddd: try rsync, netcat, wget, etc |
| 20:58.42 | enouf | ftp, telnet, whatever |
| 20:58.52 | _Sam-- | scp sftp |
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| 20:59.01 | enouf | but you need to narrrow in on where the bottleneck is |
| 20:59.29 | enouf | process of eimination, least common denominator - deductive reasoning ;-) |
| 20:59.36 | enouf | elimination* |
| 20:59.41 | fatherx | i have tried the backports for libnewt-dev, and give the same error as before |
| 20:59.49 | fatherx | what should i do now? |
| 20:59.52 | wireddd | let me see what iotop says |
| 21:00.07 | _Sam-- | wireddd : this came up earlier, i am am not the source of the knowledge -- but are you sure both nfs client and server are running the same versions of NFS? |
| 21:00.10 | enouf | installs it too now, been meaning to |
| 21:00.46 | wireddd | __Sam-- I think so, i'll have to check to be certain, both are sid, but only one is really current |
| 21:00.55 | enouf | whoa ... --> 36 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 2 to remove |
| 21:00.59 | enouf | maybe not :-P |
| 21:01.33 | torrr | if someone have a lot of servers, does he administrate each individually? |
| 21:01.40 | enouf | goes the pdo route this time |
| 21:01.58 | _Sam-- | wireddd : do you use "gtkpod"? |
| 21:02.06 | _Sam-- | Debian Bug report logs - #391810 |
| 21:02.07 | _Sam-- | gtkpod: Deadly slow operation on NFS-mounted volumes |
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| 21:03.22 | ricosecada | Anyones knows if kde4 will make it to lenny before release? |
| 21:03.29 | enouf | ahh crap - it's tjhe python python-support pkgs |
| 21:03.39 | enouf | ricosecada: i don't think so |
| 21:03.47 | enouf | !tell ricosecada -about kde4 |
| 21:04.01 | PeterFA | I get, "mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address" when I execute mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing, although I mknod /dev/md0 b 9 0 |
| 21:04.03 | stew | ricosecada: it definately won't |
| 21:04.17 | enouf | horse's mouth ;-) |
| 21:04.18 | ricosecada | enouf, thanks |
| 21:04.31 | _Sam-- | PeterFA : ls -l /dev/md0 |
| 21:04.45 | _Sam-- | i think im the one who gave you the mknod command yesterday. |
| 21:04.45 | enouf | PeterFA: mknod is ... so 90s |
| 21:04.55 | PeterFA | _Sam--, brw-r--r-- 1 root root 9, 0 Oct 16 16:54 /dev/md0 |
| 21:05.04 | PeterFA | _Sam--, you're the guy who gave me the howto. |
| 21:05.07 | enouf | PeterFA: don;t use that - use /sbin/MAKEDEV or even udevtrigger |
| 21:05.07 | valdyn | PeterFA: sdb1 exists? your kernel supports raid1 ? |
| 21:05.21 | _Sam-- | modprobe raid1 |
| 21:05.25 | PeterFA | valdyn, I am assuming so. |
| 21:05.35 | valdyn | PeterFA: thats useless, verify it |
| 21:05.41 | enouf | PeterFA: mknod made devices won't survive across reboots - just a FYI |
| 21:05.53 | PeterFA | The driver is running now. |
| 21:06.12 | valdyn | mdadm can make device nodes automagically anyway |
| 21:06.23 | enouf | right |
| 21:06.24 | _Sam-- | valdyn : his didnt, yesterday. |
| 21:06.24 | PeterFA | enouf, I don't need them. This howto will cause the kernel to autoassemble the raid on reboot: http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm |
| 21:06.42 | enouf | PeterFA: ever seen /etc/default/mdadm ? |
| 21:06.50 | PeterFA | enouf, no. |
| 21:06.50 | enouf | PeterFA: thats a Sarge tut |
| 21:06.52 | wireddd | __Sam I don't |
| 21:07.20 | enouf | PeterFA: so, i can surmise you also haven't seen /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* as well? |
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| 21:07.28 | PeterFA | mknod will work fine in this case. |
| 21:07.30 | _Sam-- | wireddd : that could be a start -- but there are plenty people who know much more than me. |
| 21:07.35 | PeterFA | enouf, right. |
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| 21:07.45 | enouf | s/surmise/presume, surmise ;- |
| 21:07.47 | skyrke | Hi I got sensors up and running and it's a p3 machine (pretty slow) but anyway I get an ALERT on +2.5V |
| 21:07.51 | fatherx | trying to install libnewt-dev with backports and it doesnt work, says "E: Couldn't find package libnewt-dev" |
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| 21:08.11 | wols | fatherx: then you didn't read the instructions on backports.org |
| 21:08.27 | enouf | PeterFA: you do know about gzip and zless, yes? |
| 21:08.33 | wols | provided a backport for libnewt-dev exists |
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| 21:08.43 | Waxhead | I just upgraded a server from etch to lenny. However I also need to compile a self writen tool but GCC is suddenly missing the include files (gcc 4.3.2.1) what package do I need to install to get the includes back? |
| 21:08.50 | PeterFA | enouf, gzip yes, not zless, but sounds handy. |
| 21:08.56 | wols | fatherx: it doesn't. why didn't you look first? |
| 21:08.57 | enouf | PeterFA: indeed |
| 21:08.58 | perlsyntax | is there a debian message board on the internet? |
| 21:09.07 | wols | !tell Waxhead about b-e |
| 21:09.10 | PeterFA | enouf, looks like it passes it through z filter first. |
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| 21:09.28 | PeterFA | enouf, I'm kind of overwhelmed with information right now about this RAID stuff. |
| 21:09.28 | enouf | man z[tab][tab] ;-) |
| 21:09.39 | themill | wols: apt-file is your friend. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 21:09.49 | enouf | PeterFA: then just gunzip -d /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* |
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| 21:10.14 | perlsyntax | i was hope there was. |
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| 21:10.20 | wols | themill: for? |
| 21:10.23 | Waxhead | wols: A million thanks ;) |
| 21:10.47 | wireddd | well the IO> column in iotop does have alot of things that spike up to 99.99% |
| 21:10.52 | themill | Waxhead: apt-file is your friend. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 21:10.56 | themill | wols: ENICK |
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| 21:11.03 | skyrke | I get "Sensor alarm: Chip via686a-isa-0c00: +2.5V: +1.30 V (min = +3.10 V, max = +3.10 V) [ALARM]" in my daemon.log. I see the min & max are equal and I figure they shouldn't be. Is this really a problem or can I just change the limits of the sensor? |
| 21:11.04 | enouf | i knew it, misfire |
| 21:11.33 | PeterFA | enouf, anyways, I only need the node temporarily. |
| 21:11.40 | PeterFA | enouf, so, mknod will be fine. |
| 21:12.08 | enouf | PeterFA: that's nice, so i guess your brain only needs information temporarily as well |
| 21:12.11 | PeterFA | Well, it worked since I loaded the driver. |
| 21:12.26 | PeterFA | enouf, ok, you have a point. |
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| 21:12.38 | enouf | puts down the taser |
| 21:12.40 | enouf | :-p |
| 21:12.59 | _Sam-- | enouf : next time, though, the mdadm when it assembles the array at boot will mknod automatically, in theory. |
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| 21:13.08 | _Sam-- | so the fact that he is using it mknod for this boot, might be ok? |
| 21:13.17 | enouf | _Sam--: sure, valdyn touched on that point |
| 21:13.20 | PeterFA | "mdadm: /dev/sdb1 appears to contain an ext2fs file system" <-- it's ext3. |
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| 21:13.36 | enouf | ... |
| 21:13.43 | enouf | +journal == ext3 |
| 21:13.59 | _Sam-- | enouf : i know, im using val's statement as my basis. so therefore, the fact the he PeterFA has used mknod does not mean that next boot he will have propblems? |
| 21:14.12 | _Sam-- | if the mdadm automatically does the mknod at boot. |
| 21:14.35 | enouf | _Sam--: oh, you mean, it's ok to use mknod for md devices? |
| 21:14.52 | _Sam-- | if they are setup properly with the proper mdadm.conf before the next boot? |
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| 21:15.17 | enouf | i believe there is a way, but it also involves module aliases |
| 21:15.25 | enouf | or some other "aliases" |
| 21:15.55 | wireddd | ok, so there is lag even if I just copy a large file |
| 21:16.04 | _Sam-- | ok. thanks again for the lesson. i will have to look at the options besides mknod. |
| 21:16.07 | fatherx | what are the risks on using sid? |
| 21:16.22 | enouf | this, i'm unsure of, but mknod is a relic of devfs, no? like rmmod/isnmod doesn;t do dependent modules, modprobe does |
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| 21:16.24 | et | that it will break your toys |
| 21:16.27 | beardy | !iyhtad |
| 21:16.48 | et | dpkg: sid |
| 21:16.49 | dpkg | from memory, sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
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| 21:17.06 | PeterFA | Is it ok that mdadm detected etx2 and not ext3? |
| 21:17.11 | PeterFA | ext2 even. |
| 21:17.39 | beardy | PeterFA: I don't know what it should detect. But ext3 is ext2, with a journal. |
| 21:17.43 | _Sam-- | PeterFA : if its ext3 and has a journal, then it should show ext3 |
| 21:17.49 | PeterFA | beardy, yeah, I know. |
| 21:18.07 | enouf | _Sam--: anytime, and note; i try to make it clear as to how well i know this/that bit of info (by using terms like, 'not sure', 'i might be wrong', 'afaict', etc ;-)) |
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| 21:18.33 | liri | if a netinstall didn't do it's network download of the required packages, how do I continue it after setting up the network when the system has completed install and as booted up? |
| 21:18.35 | _Sam-- | PeterFA: tween:/usr/share/doc/mdadm# mount |
| 21:18.40 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.55 | liri | or is it only required to apt-get update? if I remember correctly, it wanted to download some packages during install |
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| 21:19.04 | enouf | beardy, ifyhtays ? hrm .. |
| 21:19.11 | enouf | goes and tries in pm |
| 21:19.29 | enouf | haha @ [17:18:25] [dpkg] have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?, enouf |
| 21:19.35 | perlsyntax | is ther a gcc man page in debian? |
| 21:20.06 | enouf | perlsyntax: you need contrib for the metapackage and non-free for the docs |
| 21:20.13 | perlsyntax | ? |
| 21:20.15 | enouf | well.. wait |
| 21:20.23 | enouf | install manpages-dev too ? |
| 21:20.33 | enouf | !gcc-doc |
| 21:20.34 | dpkg | the man pages for gcc are in the package gcc-doc which is in non-free. It's in non-free because it is released under the GFDL with invariant sections so the package does not meet the DFSG. Ask me about <non-free> <gfdl> and <dfsg>. If you are looking for man pages for printf, strchr etc then get manpages-dev. |
| 21:20.55 | enouf | whoa, .. i recalled the factoid .. amazing ;-) |
| 21:21.24 | PeterFA | _Sam--, I don't know what that means. |
| 21:21.31 | perlsyntax | thanks |
| 21:21.39 | _Sam-- | PeterFA: only showing you that my md0 is mounted fine as ext3 |
| 21:21.53 | PeterFA | _Sam--, oh. |
| 21:22.08 | enouf | liri: what you do is "/msg dpkg sources.list" and "/msg dpkg interfaces" |
| 21:22.15 | PeterFA | _Sam--, two questions, how do I check a fs for it's type, and 2, how do I check what md0 is mounted as? |
| 21:22.19 | abrotman | cafuego: how hard would it be to port sdms to pgsql ? |
| 21:22.25 | _Sam-- | peterS: the answer to both: mount |
| 21:22.29 | _Sam-- | per, peterfa |
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| 21:22.31 | enouf | liri: and "/msg dpkg mirrors" and "/msg dpkg resolv.conf" |
| 21:22.41 | PeterFA | Oh. |
| 21:22.52 | _Sam-- | its also pretty simple to change the ext2 filesystem to ext3. |
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| 21:22.57 | _Sam-- | tune2fs |
| 21:23.04 | enouf | liri: last one ;-) /msg dpkg security |
| 21:23.07 | stanis_sh | Hello all. I am trying to get Logitech MX Revolution mouse fully working in X. Now I have working vertical scroll, left, right and middle buttons, and also back and forward buttons but nothing more. My current InputDevice section is http://pastebin.com/m47eb8e1e |
| 21:23.13 | liri | enouf: :) |
| 21:23.32 | stanis_sh | What should I change in the ButtonMapping option? |
| 21:23.35 | enouf | PeterFA: file -s /dev/mdX ? does that work? |
| 21:23.45 | liri | enouf: in terms of package installation, am I suppose to continue it somehow? |
| 21:23.52 | perlsyntax | do i have to be in my bash shell to look up gcc man page? |
| 21:24.02 | enouf | liri: well, you can always update/upgrade as you like |
| 21:24.13 | PeterFA | enouf, yes. |
| 21:24.15 | enouf | perlsyntax: look up? |
| 21:24.22 | PeterFA | enouf, it also tells me I need journal recover :p |
| 21:24.25 | liri | enouf: ahh right |
| 21:24.33 | PeterFA | enouf, thanks. |
| 21:24.35 | enouf | PeterFA: how about udevinfo -q all -n /dev/mdX ? |
| 21:24.39 | perlsyntax | yes |
| 21:24.40 | enouf | sure |
| 21:24.51 | PeterFA | enouf, no. |
| 21:25.13 | enouf | PeterFA: ok, thanks - yes, all of them say needs journal recovery |
| 21:25.24 | perlsyntax | i get the error see man 7 after i type in man gcc |
| 21:25.34 | PeterFA | enouf, do you mean that it's always going to say that? |
| 21:25.35 | enouf | PeterFA: tune2fs -l /dev/mdX | grep -i journal ? |
| 21:25.38 | Tetracomm | Hello. |
| 21:25.44 | perlsyntax | odd |
| 21:25.48 | Tetracomm | What is the best video editor you know of? I need one. |
| 21:25.56 | enouf | PeterFA: yep, if there's a journal present, yep |
| 21:26.01 | enouf | PeterFA: AFAIR |
| 21:26.06 | perlsyntax | any ideas? |
| 21:26.40 | enouf | perlsyntax: erm, how did you install the man pages for gcc? |
| 21:26.46 | PeterFA | enouf, is that a more accurate command? |
| 21:26.54 | perlsyntax | like what you said |
| 21:26.55 | PeterFA | "needs_recovery" <-- reveals this tag. |
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| 21:27.17 | enouf | PeterFA: yes, man tune2fs, man mke2fs, etc |
| 21:27.18 | perlsyntax | i yes |
| 21:27.20 | _Sam-- | i dont understand why the 'mount' command doesnt give you the info you are asking for. |
| 21:27.32 | PeterFA | enouf, how do I start a recovery? |
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| 21:28.18 | enouf | PeterFA: pull the plug :-P |
| 21:28.31 | PeterFA | enouf, hehe. |
| 21:29.00 | perlsyntax | i not sure why i can't se the man gcc page but i can see other man pages. |
| 21:29.31 | _Sam-- | gcc272-docs - Documentation for the gcc compiler (gcc272). |
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| 21:29.39 | enouf | i'm not sure how what i know pertains to mdX devices, but man fstab (see field 6), man shutdown (see -F), and google "touch /forcefsck" |
| 21:29.43 | enouf | PeterFA: ^^^^^^ |
| 21:29.45 | stew | perlsyntax: the gcc manpages were removed from debian becuase they are not free, they are in the non-free repository though: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 21:29.58 | perlsyntax | i try that |
| 21:30.00 | enouf | PeterFA: and ofcourse, man tune2fs |
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| 21:30.26 | enouf | perlsyntax: the gcc man pages are 'special' |
| 21:30.26 | PeterFA | http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm <-- after I make one array, does this mean that I don't need to touch the first harddrive and leave the array? |
| 21:30.43 | PeterFA | I mean, that I'm finished after telling the second harddrive that it's a part of a broken array? |
| 21:30.54 | enouf | judd: versions gcc-docs |
| 21:30.54 | PeterFA | Just because the kernel will figure it out and build it? |
| 21:30.56 | judd | enouf: gcc-docs: |
| 21:30.59 | enouf | judd: versions gcc-doc |
| 21:31.00 | judd | enouf: gcc-doc: 4:4.1.1.nf3 (etch/contrib) 5:2 (lenny/contrib) 5:2 (sid/contrib) |
| 21:31.08 | enouf | judd: versions gcc-4.1.2-doc |
| 21:31.09 | judd | enouf: gcc-4.1.2-doc: |
| 21:31.12 | enouf | bah |
| 21:31.17 | perlsyntax | i think that was a dumb ideas for the gcc man page |
| 21:31.21 | enouf | judd: versions gcc-* |
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| 21:31.28 | enouf | ruh roh |
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| 21:31.34 | enouf | i'm sorry judd |
| 21:31.39 | stew | perlsyntax: yeah, you'd think that the free software foundation would make the manpages for their software free, but alas... |
| 21:31.46 | judd | enouf: gcc-% |
| 21:31.58 | enouf | judd: ok, you're back ;-) |
| 21:31.58 | perlsyntax | where can i get them ? |
| 21:31.58 | judd | enouf: Error: "ok," is not a valid command. |
| 21:32.02 | abrotman | stew: they're free .. just not DFSG-free |
| 21:32.17 | enouf | here we go |
| 21:32.23 | abrotman | runs |
| 21:32.33 | enouf | abrotman: did Bozox lose? |
| 21:32.34 | stew | avoids taking the bait |
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| 21:32.48 | enouf | oh wait - in 4 hours they'll be toast :-p |
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| 21:32.51 | abrotman | enouf: like you even care .. go back to playing with fxiny and avoiding nyle |
| 21:32.52 | enouf | hides |
| 21:32.54 | abrotman | see |
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| 21:33.21 | enouf | abrotman: fxiny is the schiznitz you weenie :-P |
| 21:33.36 | TiMiDo | hey how do you mount a windows driver? |
| 21:33.37 | marinosi | Hey..I have main contrib non-free repositories of lenny but after update I cannot find it in apt-cache.What could be wrong? |
| 21:33.39 | abrotman | stew: it's not really bait .. i understand that DFSG-free is all that matters here .. but they are free for people with fewer morals :) |
| 21:33.41 | TiMiDo | what program do you need? |
| 21:33.45 | TiMiDo | ntfs- something |
| 21:33.50 | TiMiDo | i forgot the apps name |
| 21:33.50 | enouf | and i don't avoid nyle/dudeman/stoned/Hypavisah at all |
| 21:33.59 | Lagbolt | TiMiDo, ntfs-3g? |
| 21:34.07 | TiMiDo | right Lagbolt thank you very much |
| 21:34.07 | abrotman | enouf: you forgot ajavid :) |
| 21:34.11 | enouf | hurls some trout into the channel as bait ;-) |
| 21:34.21 | enouf | abrotman: i guess i did .. oh well :-P |
| 21:34.23 | Lagbolt | trout as bait? lol nice |
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| 21:35.23 | enouf | ties abrotman into knots over the bash info pages issue :-p |
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| 21:36.53 | izzyb | how can I force my eth1 nic to come up before my eth0? ie, I want to swap them. I know it has to do with the order the network modules are loaded, but I'm not sure how to manipulate them. |
| 21:37.37 | abrotman | you can use the module rules to do that .. and then play with udev z25 so they're named correctly |
| 21:37.38 | marinosi | izzyb: the same model? |
| 21:37.47 | PeterFA | How do I copy all files including hidden ones with cp? |
| 21:38.04 | marinosi | yep abrotman told it../etc/udez/z25netrules |
| 21:38.11 | marinosi | something like this |
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| 21:38.22 | marinosi | s/udez/udev |
| 21:38.24 | PeterFA | Do I have to execute two commands? |
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| 21:38.54 | izzyb | nope, built in is getting eth0 using r8169, pci card is coming up as eth1 using via_rhine |
| 21:39.02 | izzyb | I want the via_rhine to come up first as eth0 |
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| 21:40.12 | enouf | themill: just a FYI, that Dell 2.2GHz celery dellio box? is such a f'ken POS, and so proprietary that knoppix DVD 5.3 (march of this year, using debian 2.6.24 kernel) upchcucks, pukes, barfs all over itself, and shits it's pants from all the proprietary shit inside |
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| 21:40.26 | wols | izzyb: and you've been answered how to do it |
| 21:40.41 | marinosi | izzyb: nice in /etc/modules make the appropriate change to the order of modules and then if you want marinosi@lucifer:~/DLtorrents$ cd /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 21:40.42 | enouf | themill: the 3.9 CD was better .. |
| 21:40.53 | izzyb | nope. I know I need to lead the via_rhine first, but I'm not sure how to |
| 21:41.34 | enouf | izzyb: play with your initrd |
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| 21:42.12 | enouf | oh, i missed wols recent response |
| 21:42.13 | abrotman | why? just use the module rules |
| 21:42.28 | enouf | abrotman: where are they loading from? |
| 21:42.35 | abrotman | doesn't matter |
| 21:42.36 | wols | enouf: z25 |
| 21:42.40 | enouf | abrotman: does so |
| 21:42.48 | abrotman | fine .. have fun! |
| 21:42.52 | wols | enouf: /etc/udev/rules.d/ ... |
| 21:42.53 | enouf | ;-) |
| 21:42.53 | marinosi | izzyb: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 21:42.56 | abrotman | goes to cry in his beer as the sox lose |
| 21:42.58 | grendal_prime | i need to encode something with vfw. where the hell do i get that codec? |
| 21:43.01 | marinosi | Change the order |
| 21:43.04 | nxmehta | what's a simple way to make a backup of a server that allows for bare metal restore, and also allows use of the system during the backup? for windows i used to use acronis... |
| 21:43.24 | izzyb | oh, sorry, I didn't see abrotman's comment |
| 21:43.32 | enouf | wols: and abrotman i didn't even see his initial question - so i will not insist - apologies |
| 21:43.36 | themill | enouf: fun and games all around |
| 21:43.36 | izzyb | checking... |
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| 21:44.04 | enouf | themill: i'm telling ya - what one has to do to surf pr0n safely ;-) |
| 21:44.36 | ricosecada | Is ubuntu intrepid "like" debian unstable? |
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| 21:44.46 | BlackBlade | ciao |
| 21:45.14 | PeterFA | Ok, cp keeps saying "input/output error" when I try to copy all files from one partition to another. |
| 21:45.20 | enouf | abrotman and wols all i recall is 8139cp and 8139too used to conflict or both load, or something |
| 21:45.23 | PeterFA | The target is that md0. |
| 21:45.46 | enouf | oh, where'd abrotty go? |
| 21:46.08 | stew | Drury lane |
| 21:46.39 | enouf | PeterFA: not good |
| 21:47.35 | PeterFA | enouf, oh, now what do I do? |
| 21:47.50 | enouf | pull the plug - needs_recovery :-P |
| 21:47.51 | themill | enouf: he went to the pub |
| 21:47.54 | enouf | no .. |
| 21:47.58 | enouf | themill: ahh ... |
| 21:48.02 | PeterFA | enouf, it says EXT3-fs error (device md0): ext3_add_entry: bad entry in directory #45858817: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0 |
| 21:48.05 | enouf | themill: sounds like a plan ;-) |
| 21:48.17 | PeterFA | enouf, similar messages many times. |
| 21:48.21 | enouf | PeterFA: not good |
| 21:48.30 | BlackBlade | !lista |
| 21:48.30 | PeterFA | enouf, do I have to reboot now? |
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| 21:48.49 | PeterFA | enouf, I'd rather not try because it's a remote knoppix thing and the guy who sets it up doesn't like to do this. |
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| 21:48.59 | enouf | PeterFA: you might want to consider it, but remember what i said about /dev/ nodes being gone |
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| 21:49.23 | PeterFA | enouf, the howto says they'll be remade because of "raid-auto-detect" |
| 21:49.26 | enouf | PeterFA: i really don't have any suggestions at this point - you're on your own kid |
| 21:49.28 | izzyb | ok, I see how things are configured in 70-persistent-net.rules. Looks like this was auto generated. If I change the NAME= on the two nics listed here, will they got clobbered again later? |
| 21:49.40 | jkimball4 | is there a package that will let me pickup a mt-daapd server which i've tunneled through ssh? |
| 21:49.47 | enouf | PeterFA: that's a SARGE raid howto - things change |
| 21:50.06 | PeterFA | sighs. |
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| 21:50.17 | enouf | PeterFA: i told you where to find good info |
| 21:50.29 | PeterFA | I'm trying to rush this. |
| 21:50.33 | enouf | PeterFA: also the man pages, man mdadm, man mdadm.conf |
| 21:50.41 | enouf | PeterFA: pay me |
| 21:50.47 | enouf | <jk> |
| 21:51.14 | enouf | i help for free - but there's a point that i stop at |
| 21:51.41 | enouf | i try to share whatever i know freely - and trust me, i don't know much |
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| 21:52.13 | enouf | computers confound me .. it's all odd harmonics .. i.e.; distortion |
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| 22:01.14 | dudeman | hey |
| 22:01.19 | dudeman | new york debian people |
| 22:01.29 | dudeman | what freenode server do you use? |
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| 22:01.37 | stew | dudeman: try #freenode |
| 22:01.42 | dudeman | (I keep getting lags, timeouts, fucking disconencts, I'm sick of this shit) |
| 22:01.47 | dudeman | stew, ok |
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| 22:07.53 | enouf | dudeman: tcp 0 0 192.168.0.2:34866 zelazny.freenode.n:8001 ESTABLISHED3903/perl |
| 22:08.12 | dudeman | enouf, I just discovered /links |
| 22:08.17 | dudeman | enouf, thanks though :) |
| 22:08.29 | enouf | np |
| 22:08.31 | dudeman | enouf, osweb |
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| 22:09.55 | PeterFA | Can I just make the raid1 during a debian install? |
| 22:10.35 | PeterFA | There's no data loss I care about. |
| 22:10.58 | _Sam-- | PeterFA: yes. |
| 22:11.11 | _Sam-- | surprised you are havng so much trouble, though. |
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| 22:12.00 | PeterFA | _Sam--, yeah, I know. |
| 22:12.10 | PeterFA | Is etch the current stable? |
| 22:12.11 | _Sam-- | if you dont care about the data, then fdisk the drives and setup the partitions as linux auto-raid |
| 22:12.23 | _Sam-- | you dont have to reinstall debian, there's some other easier ways first. |
| 22:12.33 | _Sam-- | but if thats what you want to do, im not going to stop you either. |
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| 22:12.56 | PeterFA | I really want the server to be physically present. |
| 22:12.58 | PeterFA | Ugh. |
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| 22:13.15 | PeterFA | This guy would rather do it the simplest way. |
| 22:13.27 | _Sam-- | KISS. |
| 22:13.31 | _Sam-- | not the band. |
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| 22:15.03 | _Sam-- | Installing root on LVM + RAID with debian-installer |
| 22:15.04 | m_dige | hi guys. When using man on one of my machines i can't use the down arrow to scroll down. I can on all my other machines. Any ideas why ? |
| 22:15.07 | _Sam-- | http://dev.jerryweb.org/raid/ |
| 22:15.13 | dudeman | m_dige, install a pager |
| 22:15.26 | dudeman | m_dige, aptitude install most or less or more or w3m |
| 22:15.27 | dudeman | or lynx |
| 22:15.31 | dudeman | or whatever you want |
| 22:15.52 | triel | Hey, is there an easy way to configure an IP range (e.g. /27) on Etch? |
| 22:15.57 | m_dige | dudeman: okay. I'll try that |
| 22:16.14 | dudeman | m_dige, I prefer most |
| 22:16.23 | dudeman | aptitude install most |
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| 22:16.27 | m_dige | dudeman: less is already installed |
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| 22:16.55 | Pavl1 | hello |
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| 22:17.09 | phz | "most"? |
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| 22:17.21 | dudeman | m_dige, ls /etc/alternatives/pager -l |
| 22:17.31 | dudeman | m_dige, whats the output |
| 22:17.34 | Pavl1 | i downloaded from linksys the file WRT54GX-v2-2.00.05.tar.bz2 |
| 22:17.48 | _Sam-- | PeterFA : you could probably skip the LVM part, if you wanted. |
| 22:17.58 | m_dige | dudeman: /etc/alternatives/pager -> /usr/bin/less |
| 22:17.59 | PeterFA | _Sam--, I want to skip the LVM part. |
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| 22:18.09 | Pavl1 | i extract it |
| 22:18.09 | dudeman | m_dige, and you are unable to scroll via arrow keys up/down |
| 22:18.14 | PeterFA | _Sam--, keeping things simple is the way to go at this point :p |
| 22:18.20 | Pavl1 | and is actually on the screen |
| 22:18.28 | dudeman | m_dige, are you keys generating the correct codes? |
| 22:18.42 | dudeman | m_dige, maybe you need to recheck your kb map |
| 22:18.45 | dudeman | (not sure) |
| 22:19.02 | dudeman | m_dige, this is in cli or X/term |
| 22:19.06 | dudeman | ? |
| 22:19.26 | dudeman | !ping |
| 22:19.26 | dpkg | pong |
| 22:19.32 | m_dige | dudeman: I think so. The keys also work in the terminal (the display previous commands etc) but the not when viewing a man page |
| 22:19.55 | m_dige | this is when I login remote with SSH |
| 22:19.57 | dudeman | m_dige, I'm not sure where to trobleshoot it now |
| 22:20.01 | m_dige | so I belive cli |
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| 22:20.07 | dudeman | oh |
| 22:20.24 | dudeman | then its your server you are logging into that needs to have a pager installed (obviously0 |
| 22:20.30 | enouf | !insert |
| 22:20.30 | dpkg | well, insert is Question; "why did the up and down arrow keys stop working on my ttys all of a sudden? they wont respond and show command history or anything. but the keys work fine in X" -- Answer is--> hit the Insert key to clear it up - seems to affect 2.6.26-1-686 Debian kernels.. NEWS: The insert problem is fixed in 2.6.26-7 |
| 22:20.31 | dudeman | (sorry i just have to ask this) |
| 22:20.36 | enouf | m_dige: ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:20.50 | dudeman | enouf, oh |
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| 22:20.52 | dudeman | word |
| 22:21.05 | enouf | !factinfo insert |
| 22:21.05 | dpkg | insert -- created by enouf <n=stompthe@ool-44c669aa.dyn.optonline.net> at Sat Sep 27 13:59:23 2008 (19 days); last modified at Tue Sep 30 23:01:32 2008 by enouf!~stomptheb@ool-44c669aa.dyn.optonline.net; it has been requested 8 times, last by enouf, 35s ago. |
| 22:21.13 | m_dige | dudeman: less was also installed on the server |
| 22:21.18 | Vi^3PirePengy | virtualbox-ose-modules are 1.6.2-dfsg-4 and need to be 1.6.2-dfsg-2 when is this mismatch goign to be fixed... vbox is currently broke due to this ommission |
| 22:21.31 | th1 | how can I donate money to Debian and be sure it'll be used for something worthwhile? |
| 22:21.39 | dudeman | th1, send it to me |
| 22:21.42 | th1 | lol |
| 22:21.46 | dudeman | I'll make sure |
| 22:21.46 | Vi^3PirePengy | s/1.6.2/1.6.6 |
| 22:21.53 | _Sam-- | !donations |
| 22:21.53 | dpkg | If you like Debian are able to donate hardware, services or money, please do so. See http://www.debian.org/donations and http://www.spi-inc.org/donations. |
| 22:21.55 | enouf | !donate |
| 22:21.55 | dpkg | If you like Debian are able to donate hardware, services or money, please do so. See http://www.debian.org/donations and http://www.spi-inc.org/donations. |
| 22:22.01 | enouf | whoops |
| 22:22.12 | th1 | I usually donate a grand a year to the FSF but I thought I'd split it 500 debian and 500 fsf |
| 22:22.20 | m_dige | enouf: It is a 2.6.25 kernel |
| 22:22.29 | dudeman | 500/yr is good money |
| 22:22.32 | dudeman | thanks |
| 22:22.34 | th1 | I know |
| 22:22.43 | Pavl1 | good for you |
| 22:22.46 | dudeman | we'd appreciate it very much, as always |
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| 22:22.57 | Pavl1 | i am an associate member of FSF |
| 22:23.07 | th1 | Pavl1, as am I, as you'd suppose |
| 22:23.08 | dudeman | fantastic, you can discuss these things in #debian-chat |
| 22:23.18 | dudeman | this channel is for #debian related support only |
| 22:23.27 | th1 | dudeman, ok soz |
| 22:23.30 | th1 | will stop |
| 22:23.36 | Pavl1 | and rms and i have had many e-mailes |
| 22:23.44 | themill | dudeman: we already have #debian-offtopic, why do we need #debian-chat too? |
| 22:23.46 | Pavl1 | for 15 days |
| 22:23.53 | dudeman | themill, because this isn't offtopic |
| 22:23.59 | dudeman | this is about debian, but not debian support. |
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| 22:24.06 | themill | uhuh |
| 22:24.16 | th1 | only trouble is, -chat has only 3 people there ;) |
| 22:24.24 | dudeman | th1, its usually like that |
| 22:24.25 | dudeman | :) |
| 22:24.27 | enouf | raises hand |
| 22:24.29 | th1 | of course if those are the right people that's not a problem |
| 22:24.54 | themill | th1: #debian-offtopic has been and still is the right place |
| 22:25.08 | th1 | so as a general Debian support question: if I want to donate to general Debian development, is there a good place for that? |
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| 22:25.24 | dudeman | th1, you need to start by maintaining some stuff |
| 22:25.28 | dudeman | th1, /msg dpkg nmg |
| 22:25.34 | dudeman | th1, /msg dpkg policy |
| 22:25.44 | dudeman | th1, also try #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 22:25.49 | enouf | "right place"? |
| 22:25.56 | dudeman | enouf, I have no idea what hes on about |
| 22:25.58 | Vi^3PirePengy | virtualbox-ose-modules are 1.6.2-dfsg-4 and need to be 1.6.6-dfsg-2 when is this mismatch goign to be fixed... vbox is currently broke due to this ommission |
| 22:25.58 | th1 | dudeman, I maintain a couple kernel patches for a specific MIPS architecture, apart from that, if I want to donate in forms of money? |
| 22:25.58 | dudeman | let him |
| 22:26.01 | dudeman | I don't give a fuck |
| 22:26.02 | enouf | dudeman: stop .. ok? |
| 22:26.02 | dudeman | :) |
| 22:26.06 | enouf | ;-) |
| 22:26.15 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: Is it in the BTS? |
| 22:26.24 | Vi^3PirePengy | whats a bts |
| 22:26.35 | themill | dpkg: tell Vi^3PirePengy about bts |
| 22:26.39 | dudeman | th1, you had better read the donations link then |
| 22:26.53 | dudeman | irc is not the place to advertise that you are a philanthropist or something |
| 22:26.54 | th1 | dudeman, which is? |
| 22:26.58 | dudeman | !donate |
| 22:26.58 | dpkg | If you like Debian are able to donate hardware, services or money, please do so. See http://www.debian.org/donations and http://www.spi-inc.org/donations. |
| 22:27.07 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: btw putting "when is this going to be fixed" in all of your questions makes you sound aggressive and will make people less likely to help you. |
| 22:27.08 | th1 | lol dudeman |
| 22:27.15 | th1 | I'm not here to advertise or something |
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| 22:27.22 | thirst | hi guys.. |
| 22:27.27 | dudeman | th1, I'm sure |
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| 22:27.31 | th1 | I just felt in a good mood and wanted to give some money for something I like |
| 22:27.47 | dudeman | If you send it to me I promise to drink lots of beer |
| 22:27.47 | th1 | Debian is 2nd on that list after Linux |
| 22:27.49 | dudeman | deal? |
| 22:27.53 | th1 | hahaha |
| 22:27.59 | thirst | is there a way to completely turn off a usb device(including led) connected.. other than just unmounting .. |
| 22:28.16 | dudeman | th1, unplug? |
| 22:28.21 | dudeman | thirst, * |
| 22:28.30 | th1 | dudeman, I understand where you're coming from and I'll refrain from talking shit in here when I'm drunk from now on ;) |
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| 22:28.47 | dudeman | th1, thank you very much. |
| 22:28.51 | th1 | :) |
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| 22:29.08 | thirst | dudeman, you mean pull the power :) ? |
| 22:29.18 | dudeman | thirst, no, pull the usb device out of the usb socket |
| 22:29.22 | dudeman | s/socket/port |
| 22:29.26 | th1 | lol |
| 22:29.37 | th1 | usb socket != port? |
| 22:29.52 | dudeman | if your usb device has software that control the led sure you can |
| 22:30.02 | dudeman | otherwise without software controlling the hardware you can't |
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| 22:30.19 | dudeman | the function needs to be present on the onboard data |
| 22:30.27 | thirst | dudeman, i remember that in Fedora 9 if you choose unmount from the UI, that will turn off the light for some USB devices.. do you know the command that is run behiend the scenes.. |
| 22:30.52 | dudeman | low level usb light functions are not implemented in all software |
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| 22:31.32 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: looking at bts there was a bug but it was for sid and has been "solved" this issue has effected lenny and is not solved.. vbox is broke bc of this mismatch |
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| 22:31.47 | Vi^3PirePengy | i really dont want to grab a sid file but if i have to i guess i have too |
| 22:32.04 | themill | dpkg dbugs 499861 |
| 22:32.07 | dpkg | DONE:#499861:N[virtualbox-ose] virtualbox-ose missing corresponding kernel modules (); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:24:02 UTC [] |
| 22:32.19 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: ^^ check that bug |
| 22:32.24 | thirst | dudeman, well the light turns off well for this usb in windows.. or could you point me to some links regarding this issue.. |
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| 22:32.40 | dudeman | thirst, I don't know I'm just talking out my ass |
| 22:32.43 | dudeman | thirst, I've no idea |
| 22:32.51 | dudeman | good day. |
| 22:32.53 | dudeman | *AFK* |
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| 22:33.24 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: precisely what error message are you getting? (VBox.log) |
| 22:33.30 | _Sam-- | thirst : you could try to shutodown the USB kernel module -- im not sure exactly what would happen, someone else would nkow though...rmmod usbcore ? |
| 22:33.32 | thirst | i just checked.. the light turns off in my pal's fedora 9 |
| 22:33.42 | dudeman | _Sam--, modprobe -r |
| 22:33.45 | dudeman | (while I'm still here) |
| 22:33.58 | Vi^3PirePengy | the same one listed in the bug reports.. but those bug reporst are for sid im running lenny and it is not solved in lenny but may be in sid |
| 22:34.04 | _Sam-- | ok -- thanks for the less. |
| 22:34.06 | _Sam-- | lesson that is. |
| 22:34.11 | Vi^3PirePengy | it is a version mismatch |
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| 22:34.42 | Vi^3PirePengy | somebody dropped a brand new upstream rev into lenny a coupld of days ago and it has been broke since then |
| 22:34.48 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: And the exact text of the message contains the line "you can correct this by either installing the correct virtualbox-ose-modules package (if available) through apt-get or by building it manually with:module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose."? |
| 22:34.55 | Vi^3PirePengy | which is weird bc ithought lennyu was in freeze |
| 22:35.11 | Vi^3PirePengy | correct and it does not work |
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| 22:35.22 | themill | dpkg: tell Vi^3PirePengy about doesn't work |
| 22:35.38 | stew | modass sits on the couch all day |
| 22:35.40 | Vi^3PirePengy | module assistant does not work |
| 22:35.45 | thirst | _Sam--, dudeman i tried a modprobe -r usbcore after unmounting.. but it gives me a "FATAL: Module usbcore is in use." |
| 22:35.55 | Vi^3PirePengy | and there are no modules available to match the rest of vbox |
| 22:35.59 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: that doesn't help me any more |
| 22:36.00 | _Sam-- | yeah, like i said -- i didnt know what would happen. just a thought. |
| 22:36.02 | Vi^3PirePengy | with the proper dfsg |
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| 22:36.16 | themill | judd: versions virtualbox-ose-source |
| 22:36.17 | judd | themill: virtualbox-ose-source: 1.6.2-dfsg-6~bpo40+1 (etch-backports) 1.6.6-dfsg-2 (lenny) 1.6.6-dfsg-2 (sid) |
| 22:36.28 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: ^^ same version of the module source in both lenny and sid |
| 22:36.33 | Vi^3PirePengy | no lenny is 1.6.6 now |
| 22:36.35 | _Sam-- | thirst: you have other usb devices plugged in and in use besides the one with the light that you want to shutdown? |
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| 22:36.41 | Vi^3PirePengy | and the module is 1.6.2 |
| 22:36.46 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: ^^ same version of the module source in both lenny and sid |
| 22:37.19 | Vi^3PirePengy | no this is modules not source |
| 22:37.34 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: and module assistant compiles the source to make the modules |
| 22:37.37 | Vi^3PirePengy | c virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6 2.6.26+1.6.2-dfsg-4 |
| 22:37.38 | thirst | _Sam--, oops.. i got a usb mouse.. :D |
| 22:37.48 | Vi^3PirePengy | i virtualbox-ose-source 1.6.6-dfsg-2 |
| 22:37.50 | rhodescus | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt |
| 22:37.51 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: then it sounds like module-assistant works |
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| 22:38.28 | stew | or wait, there are precompiled modules in the archive |
| 22:38.34 | themill | yes |
| 22:38.36 | Vi^3PirePengy | yes |
| 22:38.40 | Vi^3PirePengy | and they dont match |
| 22:38.49 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: so did you follow the advice in the error message? |
| 22:38.50 | _Sam-- | thirst : there is a debian package called 'usbutils'....i dont know if anything there would be of any use. |
| 22:38.51 | dudeman | what about sdn? |
| 22:38.58 | Vi^3PirePengy | plus it want to install a 486 kernel and i havde a 686 one |
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| 22:39.02 | dudeman | sdn probably has the package version you are looking for |
| 22:39.03 | dudeman | !sdn |
| 22:39.04 | dpkg | it has been said that snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 22:39.26 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: I told you this morning (my time) how to solve the 486/686 problem. |
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| 22:39.35 | Vi^3PirePengy | it doesnt work |
| 22:39.44 | themill | dpkg: tell Vi^3PirePengy about doesn't work |
| 22:40.01 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: that doesnt help |
| 22:40.05 | Vi^3PirePengy | i have told u what is in both |
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| 22:40.21 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: you've told me nothing that is helpful beyond "it doesn't work" |
| 22:40.27 | thirst | _Sam--, let me try.. |
| 22:40.31 | thirst | thanks.. |
| 22:40.32 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: if you want us to help, you have to be more specific than "doesn't work" tell us why something doesn't work, if you are getting errors, share those |
| 22:41.17 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: the only error message that you've told me about is that it was the same as in the bug report, but you just tell me that the mentioned solution "doesn't work". |
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| 22:41.29 | _Sam-- | thirst sure, your research may also lead you here: http://www.linux-usb.org/ |
| 22:42.21 | Vi^3PirePengy | http://rafb.net/p/nGQUEB72.html |
| 22:42.26 | Vi^3PirePengy | notice the mismatch |
| 22:42.32 | Vi^3PirePengy | and module assistant fails |
| 22:42.35 | adb | Vi^3PirePengy: just upgrade vbox to 2.0.2 from sun site (has a lenny .deb package ) they said resolved 1.6 issues in 2.0.2 |
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| 22:43.02 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: we've established that versions don't match. That's why you were told to use module-assistant to compile ones that do match. |
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| 22:43.26 | Vi^3PirePengy | it doesnt do whatever m-a is supposed to do.. vbox still complaind of the mismatch |
| 22:43.29 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: "module assistant fails" doesn't actually tell me any more than "doesn't work". |
| 22:43.39 | stew | Vi^3PirePengy: if module assistant is failing, please show us the log, which is in /var/cache/modass/ |
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| 22:44.07 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: exactly what command did you give? did you install the .debs? (it would seem not) |
| 22:44.46 | Vi^3PirePengy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.57 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: I hope that wasn't what you did |
| 22:44.58 | Vi^3PirePengy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:45.18 | Vi^3PirePengy | stew: what file out of /var |
| 22:45.22 | Vi^3PirePengy | there are 6 of them |
| 22:45.25 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: the error tells you to: module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose |
| 22:46.41 | beardy | !nickometer Vi^3PirePengy |
| 22:46.42 | dpkg | 'Vi^3PirePengy' is 29.000% lame, beardy |
| 22:47.16 | amphi | so little? |
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| 22:48.50 | beardy | Yes.. it's not bad, as long as it's an easily printable letter first, it's fine. I was curious. |
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| 22:49.10 | Lagbolt | i would like to see the code for nickometer lol |
| 22:49.23 | beardy | blootbot.org |
| 22:49.26 | beardy | Go. |
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| 22:50.44 | sp1 | any ideas why virtualbox fails to build? lenny. |
| 22:50.59 | Lagbolt | sp1 vb-ose? |
| 22:51.11 | Vi^3PirePengy | version mismatch the same problem i m having sp1 |
| 22:51.11 | themill | is going to scream at vbox soon |
| 22:51.14 | sp1 | yes |
| 22:51.31 | sp1 | it worked a while back in sid, but not anymore |
| 22:51.33 | Vi^3PirePengy | no one seems to knwo when the new binary is going to be avaialbe |
| 22:51.38 | Vi^3PirePengy | for the module |
| 22:51.40 | sp1 | is there any fixes around? |
| 22:51.40 | themill | sp1: module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose |
| 22:51.55 | sp1 | themill, that is when the error occurs... |
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| 22:52.18 | themill | which is... |
| 22:52.30 | sp1 | it fails to build... |
| 22:52.40 | beardy | !errors |
| 22:52.40 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
| 22:52.52 | beardy | !pastebin |
| 22:52.52 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 22:52.54 | themill | *sob* |
| 22:52.59 | Lagbolt | sp1, i use the closed source and it compiles against lenny no prob |
| 22:53.03 | beardy | !tissue |
| 22:53.20 | sp1 | http://pastebin.com/m3b225bdc |
| 22:54.02 | themill | useful. Read, understand, think, then paste something different |
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| 22:55.59 | themill | just successfully ran module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose under lenny. |
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| 22:57.10 | sp1 | themill, you must have something magical on your system that i don't |
| 22:57.26 | dudeman | I have a lenny too and I just enabled it and modprobed vboxdrv |
| 22:57.30 | dudeman | it starts fine |
| 22:57.40 | dudeman | uhm.. I just install vbox on this lenny box |
| 22:57.43 | sp1 | am i missing something? |
| 22:57.44 | dudeman | where is the problem exactly? |
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| 22:57.57 | PeterFA | During an install of Debian Etch, the installer ran into an issue installing initramfs... there is no swap, does this cause the error? |
| 22:58.11 | dudeman | PeterFA, no |
| 22:58.19 | sp1 | dudeman, http://pastebin.com/m3b225bdc |
| 22:58.23 | PeterFA | dudeman, so, what is likely the culprit? |
| 22:58.25 | dudeman | PeterFA, you don't HAVE to have swap but I've never seen debian installer fail |
| 22:58.28 | dudeman | because of that |
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| 22:58.34 | dudeman | PeterFA, I'm not sure any other information? |
| 22:58.57 | PeterFA | dudeman, I don't have all the details. It was just reported to me. |
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| 22:59.15 | themill | sp1: aptitude install module-assistant virtualbox-ose-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i virtualbox-ose |
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| 23:00.16 | thirst | PeterFA, i have had debian installer fail.. once .. and after adding swap=/dev/hdaX that fixed the issue.. but i think this was due to bad ram.. |
| 23:00.18 | grulk | HI guys, I have conky running, but when I put a window on top of it and then move it, conky is erased from the desktop and need to wait for it to draw again, is there a way to prevent that? |
| 23:02.35 | sp1 | themill, that's the stuff! thanks |
| 23:03.23 | themill | sp1: no worries. Now we just need to convince Vi^3PirePengy to engage brain and try the same. |
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| 23:04.44 | X-plo | Hello ppl, I am unable to get my usb hub to work (D-Link DUB-H7 7-Port USB Hub) and wondered if anyone could possibly help me with this problem. |
| 23:05.23 | Vi^3PirePengy | themill: not a matter of not engaging brain... also came up now to reload the damn module with modprobe vboxdrv adn log out and re log back in and m-a a-i dfsg vers now works... why make it so complicated and not have the binary already in aptitude since there was a version change |
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| 23:07.30 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: We could have solved this all 35 minutes ago if you'd answered both my questions and stew's questions accurately and followed instructions correctly. |
| 23:08.04 | Vi^3PirePengy | i answered them as accurately as i had information on them |
| 23:08.13 | Vi^3PirePengy | why not have a proper binary if a change is going to be made |
| 23:08.16 | PeterFA | Ok, the problem was that the file systems were not formated. |
| 23:08.17 | Vi^3PirePengy | that was my question |
| 23:08.20 | Vi^3PirePengy | where is the fucking binary |
| 23:08.41 | PeterFA | Anyways... so we made an array, but it's using 2 disks, one is marked as spare, is this ok for raid1? |
| 23:08.46 | dubby | hey anyone I just did a fresh install of debian lenny and it hangs on "waiting for root file system" then goes into busy box |
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| 23:09.05 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: Only the maintainer can answer that question. You continually failed to provide any information beyond "it doesn't work". |
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| 23:09.10 | _Sam-- | PeterFA : no. |
| 23:09.14 | dubby | it also says /dev/hdb1 does not exist |
| 23:09.16 | b-04 | how to update the time ? |
| 23:09.19 | _Sam-- | to have a spare for raid for 1, you need 3 drives. |
| 23:09.26 | PeterFA | swears. |
| 23:09.28 | _Sam-- | er, to have a spare for raid1, you need 3 drives. |
| 23:09.37 | themill | dpkg: tell b-04 about ntp |
| 23:09.56 | sp1 | themill, do you happen to be a racer at solving vmware issues too? |
| 23:10.23 | sp1 | i can show you some exquisite info on how it fails to install |
| 23:10.39 | PeterFA | _Sam--, ok, I just got word that it's 2 devices, 0 spare. |
| 23:10.47 | themill | sp1: ask the channel not just me. I use it occasionally. In general though, ask #vmware |
| 23:10.47 | PeterFA | wipes sweat off of forehead. |
| 23:10.49 | dubby | Anyone know why trying to start debian would drop into initramfs |
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| 23:11.19 | themill | dpkg: tell dubby about waiting for the root filesystem |
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| 23:11.32 | sp1 | ok ok, here goes; http://pastebin.com/m60b31d97 |
| 23:11.43 | themill | dubby: I've never heard about that on a fresh install, but try it...! |
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| 23:12.22 | googlah | hey guys.. my /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf is gone. how do I reinstall it? |
| 23:12.44 | themill | sp1: "/msg dpkg vmware compiler fix" *might* solve this for you |
| 23:13.34 | dubby | dpkg : dubby cant mount root |
| 23:13.35 | dpkg | i don't know, dubby |
| 23:13.35 | sp1 | themill, is it a one-line command? or are they separate? |
| 23:13.48 | dubby | dpkg: tell dubby about mounting root |
| 23:14.03 | themill | dubby: can't mount root is a different error again. You can /msg dpkg |
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| 23:14.36 | themill | sp1: the semi-colon is a command separator. |
| 23:14.48 | sp1 | ok, so i can fire it all in once? |
| 23:14.49 | dubby | dpkg: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 23:15.16 | themill | sp1: yes, as long as you get the ./vmware-setup.pl bit right. (the filename varies) |
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| 23:15.25 | themill | dpkg: tell dubby about dpkg search |
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| 23:15.33 | dubby | its fine |
| 23:15.34 | dubby | lol |
| 23:15.35 | themill | dpkg: tell dubby about bot search |
| 23:15.39 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 23:15.40 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
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| 23:18.00 | sp1 | themill, thanks for the tip, but it did not solve it... |
| 23:18.11 | perlsyntax | where can i download the stable debain? |
| 23:18.19 | themill | perlsyntax: that's not your problem |
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| 23:18.38 | perlsyntax | it is not |
| 23:18.51 | nkuttler | !debain |
| 23:18.51 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 23:18.51 | X-plo | Hello ppl, I am unable to get my usb hub to work (D-Link DUB-H7 7-Port USB Hub) and wondered if anyone could possibly help me with this problem. |
| 23:18.52 | perlsyntax | i see |
| 23:19.00 | themill | perlsyntax: no. You need to fix your sources.list. Still. That's all. |
| 23:19.09 | themill | sp1: still gcc version errors? |
| 23:19.26 | perlsyntax | how do i do that? |
| 23:19.33 | nxmehta | for a clean drive where i want to create a single ext3 partition, is there a difference between using parted or cfdisk to edit the partition table? any reason should choose one over the other? |
| 23:19.39 | sp1 | themill, same thing... |
| 23:19.52 | themill | perlsyntax: [00:07] <themill> perlsyntax: you need to get rid of line 6 that mentions "sarge" |
| 23:20.09 | themill | perlsyntax: [00:08] <themill> perlsyntax: add the words contrib and non-free to the ends of the first two lines. |
| 23:20.20 | themill | perlsyntax: changing servers doesn't change reality. |
| 23:20.54 | themill | sp1: sounds like it didn't believe you that you wanted to use that version of gcc. What's the output of "which gcc" now? |
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| 23:21.32 | sp1 | themill, /usr/bin/gcc |
| 23:21.35 | Vi^3PirePengy | kk its all working now... ty themill and stew for the help you could give... m-a a-i virtualbox-ose had to be done but then the old mod needed to be rmmod, then modprobe vboxdrv and logout then log back in.. now works |
| 23:21.38 | Vi^3PirePengy | :) |
| 23:21.52 | perlsyntax | i got rid of line 6 |
| 23:22.06 | themill | !congratuate Vi^3PirePengy |
| 23:22.11 | themill | bah |
| 23:22.14 | themill | Vi^3PirePengy: good stuff |
| 23:22.28 | dubby | YAY thanx themill: on a fresh install of grub it had root as hdb1 instead of hda1 and thus the problem, easy fix though |
| 23:22.29 | themill | sp1: then the PATH munging didn't work. |
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| 23:22.44 | perlsyntax | i fuck it up now |
| 23:22.47 | themill | dubby: odd |
| 23:23.00 | themill | perlsyntax: pastebin it again and we'll look at it again |
| 23:23.17 | sp1 | themill, tell me how i can get it right? |
| 23:23.57 | perlsyntax | i have to log back into my laptop |
| 23:24.14 | sp1 | themill, this is the command i wrote; http://pastebin.com/m7b2c2760 |
| 23:24.16 | themill | sp1: you created ~/bin/gcc as a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.1? |
| 23:24.24 | kenjy_ | guys Im tryng to do a autologin with ssh and sudo, something like ssh root@192.168.1.100 sudo -s is there a way to sends the password? something like ssh root@192.168.1.100 sudo -s 123456 ? |
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| 23:24.48 | Vi^3PirePengy | dont use root to log in for ssh |
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| 23:25.20 | sp1 | themill, was that a question or more like a questionable statement? |
| 23:25.35 | themill | sp1: just checking. |
| 23:25.46 | sp1 | i gotta be honest and tell you that i am not sure of that.. |
| 23:26.02 | themill | sp1: ls -l ~/bin/gcc will tell you |
| 23:26.36 | sp1 | can not access it |
| 23:27.05 | flami | Hi, I just jad to reinstall ( thanks to some fglrx problems ... ) now i dont have sound anymore. My user is in the audio group, amarok doesnt complain when i try to play music, when i mute or enable a channel i hear a littleclick sound. but there is no audio in any software i tried. |
| 23:27.12 | themill | sp1: Do it one bit at a time and check at each step then |
| 23:27.29 | themill | dpkg: tell flami about alsa checklist |
| 23:28.07 | sp1 | themill, what dpkg told me? |
| 23:28.27 | themill | sp1: yeah, but one command at a time and make sure that it is working |
| 23:28.34 | sp1 | i did |
| 23:28.37 | sp1 | got no errors |
| 23:28.38 | flami | ahh some more stuff to tryout ^^ |
| 23:28.49 | Bravewolf | What is the meaning of "--fix-policy" in apt-get? I can't find any documentation on it. |
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| 23:29.22 | themill | sp1: did "which gcc" give the right version before running the installer though? |
| 23:29.47 | sp1 | that gave me /usr/bin/gcc |
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| 23:32.32 | brewmaster | any pine / gmail users here? |
| 23:32.50 | sp1 | themill, could this be an issue with gcc? |
| 23:32.52 | themill | sp1: echo $PATH |
| 23:33.16 | sp1 | as root? |
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| 23:33.44 | themill | sp1: as the user who just executed export PATH=... and who will run the vmware installer as the next step. |
| 23:33.46 | brewmaster | i can't figure out what my "defaut-fcc=" line should be in my .pinerc file |
| 23:33.57 | themill | sp1: hang on, were you sticking a sudo in the middle or something? |
| 23:34.06 | brewmaster | to store messages in the gmail's sent mail folder... |
| 23:34.13 | sp1 | themill, no, as root |
| 23:34.14 | sp1 | su - |
| 23:34.15 | sp1 | http://pastebin.com/m112ea16d |
| 23:34.41 | themill | sp1: ok, that's good. but /root/bin/gcc doesn't exist? |
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| 23:35.23 | sp1 | themill, nope... |
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| 23:35.40 | themill | sp1: does /root/bin exist? |
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| 23:36.01 | sp1 | yes |
| 23:36.13 | themill | sp1: and do you have the gcc-4.1 package installed? |
| 23:36.33 | sp1 | yes |
| 23:36.42 | sp1 | the gcc-4.1-base too |
| 23:37.00 | themill | sp1: so /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 exists? |
| 23:37.59 | sp1 | yes, it does |
| 23:38.05 | themill | so, ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 /root/bin/gcc |
| 23:38.26 | sp1 | ok, then? |
| 23:39.00 | themill | which gcc |
| 23:39.25 | sp1 | /usr/bin/gcc |
| 23:39.43 | themill | wtf? and echo $PATH is the same as you said before? |
| 23:40.10 | sp1 | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 23:40.27 | themill | sp1: what happened to it? |
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| 23:40.38 | themill | sp1: did you log out or change shells or something? |
| 23:40.48 | sp1 | nope... not once |
| 23:40.51 | sp1 | still on the same session |
| 23:41.39 | themill | sp1: so who changed $PATH? |
| 23:41.56 | sp1 | if i knew i'd kick his ass |
| 23:42.06 | themill | sp1: ok, export PATH=~/bin:$PATH; echo $PATH; which gcc |
| 23:42.22 | sp1 | /root/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin /root/bin/gcc |
| 23:42.53 | themill | yay! at last |
| 23:43.03 | themill | sp1: so now try running that bloody isntaller |
| 23:43.20 | themill | from that shell... where gcc is set to gcc 4.1 |
| 23:43.23 | sp1 | the same usual what? |
| 23:43.51 | sp1 | like dpkg told me? |
| 23:44.03 | dustybin | sp1: isnt it about time one installed sp3 ? |
| 23:44.08 | themill | just /home/Sp1/Desktop/vmware-server-distrib/vmware-install.pl |
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| 23:48.14 | sp1 | themill, let's leave this before i'm placed in a mental institute... |
| 23:48.20 | sp1 | same thing...... |
| 23:48.35 | themill | :( |
| 23:48.43 | sp1 | it's incredible |
| 23:48.57 | themill | you could monkey with /usr/bin/gcc directly too, but make sure you change it back afterwards |
| 23:49.20 | sp1 | is it "normal" that i got more than one gcc version installed? |
| 23:49.52 | sp1 | i got 4.1 and 4.3 it seems |
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| 23:51.07 | themill | sp1: yes, 4.3 is the debian default now, except for compiling kernels |
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| 23:51.22 | sp1 | so those are normal? |
| 23:51.43 | lgbr | I uninstalled something on my 64bit system (oops) and I wasn't sure what it was. Now I can't run 32bit apps. What do I need to install again? |
| 23:51.50 | LooieENG | hi everyone. |
| 23:52.11 | sp1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.12 | sp1 | u got vmware server yourself? |
| 23:52.17 | sp1 | wow, sorry |
| 23:52.36 | sp1 | maybe you could use your own paths and settings in the system to guide my own faulty system? |
| 23:53.00 | LooieENG | anyone know why I get the error "*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()" after installing sendmail? |
| 23:53.56 | themill | sp1: only vmware player on this machine |
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| 23:54.55 | sp1 | themill, on the other side, i could use vbox to install gues os', and vmplayer for vm-images... |
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| 23:55.20 | themill | sp1: you can make your own images for vmplayer directly. |
| 23:55.36 | sp1 | from what base/file(s)? |
| 23:56.08 | themill | sp1: http://www.easyvmx.com/ |
| 23:57.18 | sp1 | themill, :) |
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| 23:58.08 | aFlag | !search dexter s03e03 |
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