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| 22:56.37 | acdimalev | the heck... |
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| 22:56.45 | acdimalev | is that an x86 emulator? |
| 22:57.19 | dmoerner | thrice`: no |
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| 22:57.37 | Lukas___ | VirtualBox its similar to Qemu but faster ! ;) |
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| 22:58.51 | acdimalev | yet another alternative to kqemu and kvm I guess... still looks like full emulation |
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| 22:59.01 | acdimalev | hmm |
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| 22:59.33 | thrice` | dmoerner: still nothing |
| 22:59.50 | Lukas___ | yeah its great (faster than Qemu .. real fast!!) but how can I use my external HD ?? |
| 22:59.58 | acdimalev | they do have an IRC channel apparently |
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| 23:00.39 | acdimalev | oh... Sun Microsystems |
| 23:01.08 | acdimalev | heh, interesting |
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| 23:02.05 | thrice` | it doesn't even try to load a boot loader, which is my confusion |
| 23:02.36 | acdimalev | Lukas, are you familiar with using qemu to get the job done? |
| 23:02.47 | Lukas___ | no, |
| 23:03.01 | acdimalev | ah, nevermind then |
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| 23:03.21 | Lukas___ | with Qemu or VirtualBox, you can create a virtual HD, but i want to use the real HD (the external) |
| 23:03.23 | stevedondley | ping dondelelcarlo |
| 23:03.31 | qq- | Lukas___: i don't think so , at least not with virtualbox-ose |
| 23:03.55 | Lukas___ | :( do you know if its posible with Qemu ? |
| 23:03.58 | qq- | virtualbox-ose not handle usb devices |
| 23:04.16 | Lukas___ | (VB can handle USB but must make some tricks) |
| 23:04.42 | qq- | VB from sun , yes |
| 23:04.51 | jon_ | thrice, do you have to change the boot order or something like that? |
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| 23:05.22 | thrice` | no, I have a special "load from usb stick option" |
| 23:05.30 | jon_ | alternative q: have you ever booted a usb anything from that machine? |
| 23:05.31 | qq- | Lukas___: for qemu, i dunno , not tested yet |
| 23:05.35 | thrice` | which I hit, and it says "boot error," then goes back to ilo |
| 23:05.41 | jon_ | oh ok |
| 23:05.45 | thrice` | yes, I have |
| 23:05.50 | acdimalev | yeah... with qemu, you just point it at the device "/dev/sd? |
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| 23:06.21 | Lukas___ | acdimalev: are you telling me, I can use the real HD with Qemu ? |
| 23:06.37 | acdimalev | yes, just don't have the HD mounted when you do ;) |
| 23:07.08 | Lukas___ | ok, I will try right now! and tell you ;) |
| 23:07.22 | acdimalev | I'm dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows Vista on my laptop... as an experiment I tried booting into my vista installation from KVM |
| 23:07.27 | acdimalev | worked like a charm |
| 23:07.47 | acdimalev | ...mind... vista gets really weird about hardware changes |
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| 23:07.48 | jon_ | thrice this is amd64 arch? |
| 23:07.58 | thrice` | that's what i was attempting, yes |
| 23:08.40 | thrice` | the device has stuff on there like it should, but it just isn't booting |
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| 23:13.10 | lxsameer | how can i create ttyS file using udev , i can't understand the man page |
| 23:13.10 | jon_ | thrice`: hmm... one low-level question I'd be asking is exactly what is producing that message and exactly why |
| 23:13.57 | thrice` | indeed :) |
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| 23:14.21 | Lukas___ | acdimalev: I have Qemu runing, and the external HD unmounte, in Qemu put /dev/sdb1 --- dont work:( |
| 23:14.59 | adama | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.50 | Lukas___ | noup, not start Qemu |
| 23:15.51 | thrice` | ok, thanks anyways. I'll stick to slackware on here |
| 23:16.33 | Lukas___ | fdisk -l tell me : /dev/sdb1 (linux partition) /dev/sdb2 (swap) in external HD unmounted |
| 23:16.34 | wols_ | Lukas___: what debian kernel do you run? uname -a |
| 23:16.56 | Lukas___ | 2.6.24.19 (ubuntu) host machine |
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| 23:17.14 | wols_ | Lukas___: we do not support ubuntu. go to #ubuntu |
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| 23:17.33 | Lukas___ | its almost the same!! Debian Based!! |
| 23:17.39 | wols_ | !debian based |
| 23:17.39 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 23:17.51 | wols_ | but it's not debian and you are offtopic. go to #ubuntu |
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| 23:19.02 | Lukas___ | wow! Debian hospitality!! anyway, thanks, I go install Debian in the external HD and the..... Ill come back jejeje have a nice day guys and thanks |
| 23:19.25 | jon_ | ubuntu is getting further and further away from debian all the time... I'm not sure they take debian unstable anymore |
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| 23:20.19 | jon_ | Lukas___: it's hard enough having to know debian without having to know all the others |
| 23:20.56 | Lukas___ | OK, see you next :) Bye and tks |
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| 23:21.56 | lxsameer | how can i create a device file without udev? |
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| 23:22.27 | jon_ | man mknod, look at (your kernel source)/Documentation/devices.txt |
| 23:22.52 | wols_ | lxsameer: what did you do to have these udev problems? |
| 23:23.12 | jon_ | I think he wants to suport a serial port |
| 23:23.27 | wols_ | sure but udev creates ttyS0 automatically |
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| 23:24.13 | jon_ | maybe he has to setserial it |
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| 23:24.54 | lxsameer | wols_: i need to build ttyS on a server tu use ssh , but i can't use udev |
| 23:25.38 | jon_ | "build ttyS" what do you mean exactly |
| 23:25.57 | jon_ | and why can't you use udev |
| 23:26.19 | jon_ | maybe it's not a serial port |
| 23:26.25 | wols_ | and a serial port for ssh? |
| 23:26.48 | jon_ | I'm suspicious of his S in ttyS |
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| 23:29.19 | jon_ | lxsameer: so here's where we are: you're asking a question, and some here (like me) are trying to piece together what you mean |
| 23:31.19 | lxsameer | jon_: i have a problem with ssh on server and after wide search i found that i miss that file and it's true i really miss that so i should make that |
| 23:31.39 | jon_ | miss what file exactly? |
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| 23:32.01 | jon_ | notice I use the word "exactly" a lot |
| 23:33.20 | lxsameer | jon_ : in the article i read it called ttys , but i think he mean's ttyS0 or some thing like this |
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| 23:35.31 | jon_ | ttyS0 is the standard name for a serial port (with hardware uart)... |
| 23:35.46 | jon_ | is that the device you're trying to support? |
| 23:36.22 | jon_ | maybe we should go to exactly what problem you're having with ssh on the server |
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| 23:38.40 | jon_ | can you show the url you're reading? |
| 23:39.05 | jon_ | (btw, did you know that in unix/linux: ttys is -not- the same file as ttyS?) |
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| 23:40.08 | Raylz | oO is java now open source? |
| 23:40.13 | Raylz | why is it in the repos? |
| 23:40.34 | jon_ | I guess someone relaxed |
| 23:43.14 | wols_ | Raylz: sun java? |
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| 23:43.40 | Raylz | wols_: ive read java-common |
| 23:43.45 | Raylz | wols_: i guess so |
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| 23:44.04 | Raylz | is there a free implementation of java? |
| 23:44.14 | jon_ | guava? |
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| 23:44.40 | jon_ | gcj |
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| 23:44.51 | jon_ | (the name of the free compiler) |
| 23:45.04 | Raylz | jon_: never heard of that |
| 23:45.20 | jon_ | see if you have gcj |
| 23:45.41 | themill | Raylz: also look at the openjdk-6-jdk package in lenny/sid |
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| 23:46.32 | Raylz | themill: does it come from sun? |
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| 23:47.16 | themill | Raylz: sort of. |
| 23:47.25 | themill | !icedtea |
| 23:47.25 | dpkg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea or http://icedtea.classpath.org |
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| 23:49.48 | Raylz | themill: nice, do you know eventually if it works with eclipse? |
| 23:50.11 | lxsameer | jon_: i can't find that page but when i try to ssh to server i got "stdin: is not a tty |
| 23:50.11 | lxsameer | " |
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| 23:54.18 | cockroach | hmm, small question: it seems there are files 'missing' from linux-libc-dev (namely ip_mp_alg.h) - what happened there? |
| 23:54.54 | cockroach | oh, my fault. sorry |
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| 23:55.42 | wols_ | lxsameer: what kernel? |
| 23:56.00 | lxsameer | wol_ : me or server? |
| 23:56.08 | wols_ | server |
| 23:56.17 | eve | is there a better system to configure the printer ? |
| 23:56.20 | eve | with more options |
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| 23:56.34 | wols_ | there is cups |
| 23:57.14 | lxsameer | wols_: 2.6.18-53.1.19.el5.028stab053.14 |
| 23:57.17 | eve | i have needed to boot on my windows in order to print a "impress" with 4 pages per a single page wols_, i don't have found this option in cups |
| 23:57.29 | eve | advanced settings of cups ? :/ |
| 23:57.44 | wols_ | lxsameer: not debian, ask whoever made the kernel or distro |
| 23:58.10 | lxsameer | wols_: thanks |
| 23:58.32 | wols_ | lxsameer: the server kernel or distro is to blame so they need to fix it or help you |
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