| 00:00.30 | dkr | why would you like linux when you don't want to configure anything? I love having the ability to completely control/configure everything. :) |
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| 00:01.49 | DawnLight | where does mutt know my email address from? |
| 00:01.59 | Maulkin | DawnLight: your username and your mail name? |
| 00:02.02 | simonrvn | that's where the confing comes in ;) |
| 00:02.04 | dkr | your user name attached to your domain name |
| 00:02.41 | dkr | I thought he was wondering why it spookily already knew it without configuring it. :) |
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| 00:04.12 | simonrvn | !muttrc |
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| 00:07.27 | DawnLight | yes, it already knows... i sure didn't tell it but i can't remember where i did put my email except from...ahm... exim and kmail |
| 00:08.01 | simonrvn | .bashrc ? |
| 00:08.04 | DawnLight | ah... perhaps i have told bugreport my email at setup |
| 00:08.11 | DawnLight | reportbug i mean |
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| 00:08.17 | simonrvn | or just gotten from username + domain |
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| 00:08.29 | irule | a program is ending my result to fle, how may I send it to stdout? |
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| 00:24.39 | dev-bin | hello, I've burned a few copies of debian, and I've always getting the same error during install "load installer components from CD" failed |
| 00:24.47 | dev-bin | any suggestions? |
| 00:26.29 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.31 | kritical | dev-bin, perhaps your install cd is corrupted or your cd rom is faulty? |
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| 00:28.29 | tnks | anybody here feel like they've used xen-tools enough to help debug a problem? |
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| 00:32.11 | dev-bin | I test the CDs integerity and it comes back good. |
| 00:32.20 | liable | try acpi=off |
| 00:32.37 | dev-bin | the first one was disc1, then I tried the net-inst 1 |
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| 00:34.47 | dev-bin | ok, will do |
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| 00:40.04 | gan|y|med | hi |
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| 00:40.13 | gan|y|med | can anyone tell how to enable CFS in the kernel config, that is which option it is (or is it maybe jsut CFQ) ?? |
| 00:42.16 | liable | gan|y|med: menuconfig has a search function, hit the / button and type |
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| 00:43.33 | gan|y|med | i tried to find it, but could only find CFQ |
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| 00:44.13 | wols_ | gan|y|med: what kernel version do you look at? |
| 00:44.40 | gan|y|med | 2.6.23.1 |
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| 00:49.40 | minus198 | Hi there.. When I rightclick on a MP3 and select properties, nautilus crashes.. Accroding to google, this is rather ordinary... |
| 00:49.45 | minus198 | Is there a fix for this? |
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| 00:56.48 | Xenguy | actually M$ is evil =) |
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| 01:00.53 | thiagomz | Hi Guys |
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| 01:01.10 | thiagomz | Where I can download a unstable iso image from debian ? |
| 01:01.28 | ekimus | hello, i just debootstrapped etch (in vmware), i installed linux-image-2.6-686 added dm-mod to /etc/modules and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, did update-initramfs -u but still it hangs at "Waiting for root filesystem" - what else do I have to do to get a rootpartion on LVM working? |
| 01:02.12 | ekimus | thiagomz: afaik you can't you have to get a daily iso and use expert install... - it's somewhere in the install manuals mentioned iirc |
| 01:02.48 | vlt | Hello. I got a fsck logfile here: http://rafb.net/p/SxadqP79.html -- Can anyone tell me which filesystem is NOT clean here (and why there are more lines "Filesytem is clean" here than checked file systems)? |
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| 01:03.37 | thiagomz | ekimus, tkz , i think i found my answer -> http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#unstable-images |
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| 01:03.43 | dacs | hi guys |
| 01:04.27 | dondelelcaro | vlt: guessing, /dev/mapper/system-var_crypt is probably the problem. |
| 01:04.32 | ekimus | vlt: lines 28-31 |
| 01:04.52 | dondelelcaro | vlt: but you can just run fsck on all of those filesystems in init 1; they'll exit quickly if the filesystem is clean. |
| 01:06.06 | vlt | I rebooted from cd and all file systems including root are clean. Does it report "NOT clean" because /var is already mounted? |
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| 01:07.44 | dacs | off topice, where can i get napster recovery utility ? i google but no luck |
| 01:09.23 | wols_ | ekimus: unstable installers don't exist |
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| 01:15.08 | SamuraiDio | why is libswt-gtk-3.2-java not avaiable? |
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| 01:17.15 | ross` | excuse me.. im having permission errors.. this kid has an account on my server and im letting him make a website.. although when he saves it.. it does not allow him save it.. how do i chmod the websites folder.. so that the user of taht folder can use it |
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| 01:18.12 | liable | ross`: dont chmod stuff in /var/www, set his web root inside his /home dir |
| 01:18.15 | dbmoodb | hi i'm getting a ton of 1/0 errors but smart tests reveal no problems and i have run fsck |
| 01:18.19 | ross` | i did! |
| 01:18.22 | ross` | it still gave him errors |
| 01:18.23 | ross` | >< |
| 01:18.35 | dbmoodb | i imagine a reinstall will not help... |
| 01:19.27 | ross` | liable: this makes no since.. |
| 01:19.43 | ross` | my user is 123.. i used vhost to point clan123.kwzs.be @ /home/123/website |
| 01:19.47 | ross` | and hes on user 123 |
| 01:19.55 | liable | ross`: no it doesn't, a dir in his home should be freely writable |
| 01:20.01 | ross` | and he tried to edit the index.html files.. and poof permissions |
| 01:20.16 | dbmoodb | ok so no answer ? |
| 01:20.41 | dbmoodb | getting end_request: I/O error error - after an uptime of a day or two |
| 01:20.45 | SamuraiDio | dbmoodb, io errors when what? |
| 01:20.57 | dbmoodb | it doesn't work |
| 01:21.03 | dbmoodb | sshing doesn't work |
| 01:21.13 | dbmoodb | the power button on it produces more end_request: I/O errors lol |
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| 01:21.21 | SamuraiDio | dbmoodb, if you restart your server does the errors persists? |
| 01:21.25 | dbmoodb | nope |
| 01:21.32 | dbmoodb | happens every few days |
| 01:21.45 | dbmoodb | the smart test says no error |
| 01:21.48 | wiebel | hi is there something more permanent than update-rc.d? according to upgrades |
| 01:22.00 | dbmoodb | should i check it is in properly ? |
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| 01:22.13 | ekimus | wiebel: more permanent? |
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| 01:23.22 | SamuraiDio | dbmoodb, check if you hadn't a hacker attack, check your ~/.bash_history and logs |
| 01:23.33 | dbmoodb | oh ... |
| 01:23.38 | dbmoodb | hacker attack you say |
| 01:23.45 | dbmoodb | why do you think so ... |
| 01:23.47 | wiebel | when I don' need a service permanently (like moblock) i remove it with update-rc.d -f moblock remove, but after an upgrade of moblock , dpkg reinserts the initscripts |
| 01:23.53 | SamuraiDio | dbmoodb, there may be something killing system proccess on your machine |
| 01:23.53 | liable | wtf do io errors have to do with a hack? |
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| 01:24.16 | PingFloyd | also wtf does hacking have to do with attacking? |
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| 01:24.24 | ekimus | wiebel: update-rc.d plus dpkg-statoverride i think |
| 01:24.32 | dbmoodb | i personally think there is a temperature problem with it |
| 01:24.37 | dbmoodb | like it gets too hot and so it dies |
| 01:24.39 | SamuraiDio | PingFloyd, there is bad hackers |
| 01:24.43 | wiebel | ekimus, i'll try that, thx |
| 01:25.02 | PingFloyd | SamuraiDio: those are true hackers though, those are script kiddies |
| 01:25.08 | ekimus | dbmoodb: try producing a lot if network traffic and see if the error comes up earlier, i had bad NICs that yielded such problems... |
| 01:25.23 | dbmoodb | network traffic ? |
| 01:25.31 | dbmoodb | ah isn't this a hard disk thing ? |
| 01:25.34 | SamuraiDio | hmmm.. |
| 01:26.13 | SamuraiDio | dbmoodb, probally not |
| 01:26.14 | ekimus | dbmoodb: not necessarily but don't blame me if your disks are on fire in about 21 minutes :) |
| 01:26.18 | wiebel | dbmoodb, do you drive it too hard? like a too high dma-mode or something? |
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| 01:26.49 | wiebel | then again I missed the beginning of your problem |
| 01:27.40 | dbmoodb | nar |
| 01:27.47 | dbmoodb | just leave it most of the time |
| 01:27.58 | ekimus | anyone knows how i can make a debootstrapped system boot from a rootpartition on lvm? it says no such volume group upon mounting the root fs but afaik I added dm-mod to the modules of the initramfs... |
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| 01:30.34 | dbmoodb | tis a dell inspiron - so i am using i8kmon |
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| 01:34.55 | dbmoodb | so any ideas ? |
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| 01:39.34 | krazykit | is there any software that will restore a partition map that was deleted? no data was overwritten, only the partition map itself |
| 01:40.18 | xand | fdisk... create again |
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| 01:40.38 | liable | and lose all your data |
| 01:40.47 | krazykit | right. i don't want to lose my data. |
| 01:40.59 | liable | i think your kinda screwed |
| 01:41.10 | dbmoodb | ah recover it |
| 01:41.14 | karsten | krazykit: gpart |
| 01:41.16 | dbmoodb | do not write to it lol |
| 01:41.28 | liable | ah yeah, i forgot about gpart |
| 01:41.33 | karsten | krazykit: "Guess PARTition table" |
| 01:42.00 | krazykit | oh my, that looks excellent |
| 01:42.08 | karsten | krazykit: if you remember the partitioning scheme, you can rebuild it by hand as well. I tend to keep parition tables printed for just that reason. |
| 01:42.46 | liable | or back it up with sfdisk |
| 01:42.46 | karsten | krazykit: gpart should do a pretty good job. Trick is to try it, then mount *READ* *ONLY* the partitions to see if you've got 'em right. |
| 01:43.13 | krazykit | how would you mount the partition read only if you're not writing the partition table? |
| 01:43.23 | liable | karsten: how do you rebuild it by hand? |
| 01:43.25 | krazykit | or do you write the table and mount ro |
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| 01:43.38 | karsten | krazykit: You can write the partition table itself. That's not going to blow away any of your data. |
| 01:43.55 | karsten | krazykit: gpart works AFAIK by finding the filesystem start/end points on disk. |
| 01:44.21 | karsten | liable: Print out 'fdisk -l'. Partition your disk to the same size, start, and end blocks. |
| 01:44.41 | Asmooh | does anyone knows why my myth doesnt have any buttons in the bottom of my screen? |
| 01:44.51 | liable | oh, i thought you meant something else |
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| 01:45.28 | amen | i have errors on ftp connection, can't established! |
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| 01:45.58 | dondelelcaro | Asmooh: mythtv? |
| 01:46.09 | Asmooh | yea |
| 01:46.26 | Asmooh | i dont have the menu or something |
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| 02:04.45 | krazykit | karsten, and so when i write the guessed partition table to a file and check it out, would i write it using dd, like dd if=/path/to/partitionfile of=/dev/disk? |
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| 02:22.22 | darkbahamut | hello everyone |
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| 02:26.31 | minus198 | Hello.. I have this weird problem with my internetconnection going down randomly.. This does not occur in windows or ubuntu. Does anyone have an idea of what can be the problem? |
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| 02:27.36 | darkbahamut | wols: hey |
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| 02:28.41 | EruditeHermit | hi, can anyone help me with the gimp. I get a crash whenever I click on the drawing window. |
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| 02:32.13 | sam_ | dpkg thinks that /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/bootconfig/__init__.py does not exist. ls tells me it does.. any way to fix? http://www.pastebin.ca/793254 This is on Sid. |
| 02:32.13 | dpkg | sam_: that's too long |
| 02:32.33 | sam_ | dpkg thinks that /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/bootconfig/__init__.py does not exist. ls tells me it does.. any way to fix? http://www.pastebin.ca/793254 |
| 02:34.21 | EruditeHermit | is the gimp worrking for anyone else? |
| 02:35.32 | DeZ_666 | can anyone tell me where i can set my screen resolution to something higher? |
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| 02:36.03 | kgoetz | EruditeHermit: probably yes |
| 02:36.16 | kgoetz | DeZ_666: what desktop? what debian release? |
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| 02:36.46 | DeZ_666 | debian etch 4.0r1 gnome |
| 02:37.01 | UbuntMe | whats better, debian or ubuntu? |
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| 02:37.13 | kgoetz | UbuntMe: thats a reasonably trollish questoin here |
| 02:37.21 | DeZ_666 | quite trollish in fact |
| 02:37.23 | kgoetz | DeZ_666: desktop -> preferences -> resolution |
| 02:37.40 | DeZ_666 | kgoetz: it only shows me the options there that i chose when i installed debian |
| 02:37.40 | UbuntMe | trollish, like a Troll? like in the hobbit or somthing? |
| 02:37.50 | DeZ_666 | i want something higher, which i am sure my monitor supports |
| 02:37.55 | EruditeHermit | kgoetz: is it working for you? What distro are you on? |
| 02:37.57 | darkbahamut | does anyone know how to install nVidia GeForce Go 7200 drivers on Debian Etch? |
| 02:38.01 | kgoetz | DeZ_666: you'll have to reconfigure xorg. |
| 02:38.06 | kgoetz | !xorg |
| 02:38.07 | dpkg | methinks xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode), or ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. |
| 02:38.14 | kgoetz | !tell DeZ_666 about drxx |
| 02:38.17 | DeZ_666 | ty. |
| 02:38.31 | kgoetz | EruditeHermit: i dont use it. |
| 02:38.54 | kgoetz | !tell UbuntMe about troll |
| 02:39.23 | UbuntMe | Ok |
| 02:39.23 | DeZ_666 | hey kgoetz |
| 02:39.31 | DeZ_666 | what should i use as my x server driver? |
| 02:39.35 | DeZ_666 | vesa? :x |
| 02:39.42 | kgoetz | whats your video card? |
| 02:39.45 | sam_ | UbuntMe, Ubuntu is better - go join #ubuntu.. |
| 02:39.48 | UbuntMe | But that question wasn't rude or mean! |
| 02:39.50 | DeZ_666 | Um, its onboard |
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| 02:40.13 | kgoetz | "do not atribute to malice..." |
| 02:40.21 | kgoetz | deerun `lspci |grep VGA` |
| 02:40.24 | kgoetz | and tell us the output |
| 02:40.39 | kgoetz | * DeZ_666 ^^ |
| 02:40.48 | kgoetz | lag is killing me :( |
| 02:41.08 | DeZ_666 | nVidia corporation unknown device :s |
| 02:41.20 | DeZ_666 | my chipset is 'nforce 410 based' |
| 02:41.31 | DeZ_666 | so, i expected nvidia to come up |
| 02:41.36 | kgoetz | oh.... nvidia :( |
| 02:41.49 | DeZ_666 | Whats wrong with that? |
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| 02:42.06 | DeZ_666 | should i just choose vesa since that was what the selector was on? |
| 02:42.28 | kgoetz | go with vesa or nv |
| 02:42.57 | kgoetz | nvidia mobo chipsets are.... unsported (when i tried last) |
| 02:43.25 | kgoetz | or badly supportd |
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| 02:46.22 | kgoetz | heh. testing the ban evasion |
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| 02:47.41 | darkbahamut | does anyone know how to install nVidia GeForce Go 7200 drivers on Debian Etch? |
| 02:47.58 | kgoetz | !tell darkbahamut about nvidia |
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| 02:48.08 | Asmooh | or download drivers from the nvidia site |
| 02:48.26 | wols | DeZ_666: update-pciids |
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| 02:49.06 | darkbahamut | Asmooh: i did but dont know how to install it |
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| 02:49.07 | Asmooh | sh NVIDIA-blahblah.sh |
| 02:49.07 | Asmooh | :) |
| 02:49.07 | wols | Asmooh: don't tell people in #debian this or you can support them. on your own |
| 02:49.12 | Asmooh | e |
| 02:49.14 | DeZ_666 | CRAP. |
| 02:49.14 | Asmooh | why not? |
| 02:49.17 | axscode | hi, how to make a linux-kernel-headers ? i really need a 2.6.17 kernel header for i386... |
| 02:49.19 | DeZ_666 | i borked my xserver |
| 02:49.22 | wols | Asmooh: cause they break your debian |
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| 02:49.27 | Asmooh | eh? |
| 02:49.32 | darkbahamut | does anyone know how to open files like NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run? |
| 02:49.34 | wols | axscode: with kernel-package |
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| 02:49.40 | dondelelcaro | Asmooh: because it can't be removed cleanly, and may break things in annoyingly, unreproducibly, un-revertable ways. |
| 02:49.41 | wols | darkbahamut: don't do this |
| 02:49.49 | darkbahamut | wols: ? |
| 02:49.58 | wols | darkbahamut: see what dondelelcaro said |
| 02:50.00 | kgoetz | darkbahamut: you dont open up run files |
| 02:50.16 | Asmooh | ./file.run |
| 02:50.21 | darkbahamut | kgoetz: o |
| 02:50.26 | melodosgr | is there a xorg in osx? lol |
| 02:50.35 | Asmooh | and there is nothing wrong with install nvidia on a debian system |
| 02:50.37 | Asmooh | :/ |
| 02:50.38 | wols | melodosgr: asj #osx |
| 02:50.45 | darkbahamut | umm.. what do i do then? follow dpkg? |
| 02:50.50 | wols | darkbahamut: yes |
| 02:50.58 | Asmooh | yea follow dpkg and get old drivers |
| 02:50.59 | Asmooh | ;x |
| 02:51.00 | darkbahamut | wols: ok |
| 02:51.27 | melodosgr | i love you debian.. will u marry me? |
| 02:51.29 | melodosgr | lol |
| 02:51.58 | Asmooh | atm i have only installed debian as fileserver, not as desktop anymore |
| 02:52.14 | DeZ_666 | Woo my x server! |
| 02:52.20 | melodosgr | why is that asmooh? |
| 02:52.26 | DeZ_666 | kgoetz: nv didn't work, i think that was the problem |
| 02:52.32 | melodosgr | any bad experience with deb? |
| 02:52.32 | DeZ_666 | either that or kernel framebuffer thingy :) |
| 02:52.35 | Asmooh | because i dont like it enough for having it on my desktop |
| 02:52.36 | kgoetz | DeZ_666: ah well. it was worth a shot :) |
| 02:52.48 | DeZ_666 | Well thanks for your help |
| 02:52.50 | kgoetz | DeZ_666: that could quite likely have caussed issues (framebuffer) |
| 02:53.00 | DeZ_666 | 1280x1024, squeee! |
| 02:53.02 | melodosgr | Asmooh: r u using some other linux distro now though? |
| 02:53.03 | wols | DeZ_666: you might have to use or make a backport of nvidia drivers for your hardware |
| 02:53.11 | Asmooh | im using my normal os: osx |
| 02:53.12 | DeZ_666 | wols: im doin ok ;) |
| 02:53.14 | axscode | can u teach me how to build kernel header ? using kernel-package? |
| 02:53.17 | DeZ_666 | thanks anyhow |
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| 02:53.30 | melodosgr | Asmooh: ... |
| 02:53.36 | Asmooh | ? |
| 02:53.37 | kgoetz | axscode: look it up on the wiki |
| 02:53.40 | wols | axscode: you will need your kernel's source. and since you speak about 2.6.17 this means it can't be debian |
| 02:53.48 | melodosgr | Asmooh:i thought u were using free bsd :P |
| 02:53.57 | Asmooh | hehe |
| 02:54.10 | Asmooh | only osx for desktop using |
| 02:54.10 | Asmooh | :) |
| 02:54.12 | dondelelcaro | axscode: man make-kpkg; read the TARGETS section |
| 02:54.13 | axscode | i have a source already of 2.6.17 |
| 02:54.31 | darkbahamut | howcome when i try to download something i need to have the cd in? |
| 02:54.46 | Asmooh | check your sources.list |
| 02:54.48 | axscode | wols its an embedded system.. |
| 02:54.56 | wols | darkbahamut: cause there is a line referencing it in your sources.list. remove the entry for the CD |
| 02:55.11 | melodosgr | Asmooh: do you have any idea if there is a look alike xorg.conf in osx? |
| 02:55.12 | wols | axscode: so it can't be debian even moreso |
| 02:55.22 | wols | melodosgr: #sx |
| 02:55.25 | Asmooh | melodosgr, nah try /Libery ? |
| 02:55.27 | wols | *#osx |
| 02:55.49 | kgoetz | axscode: why dont you give us all the details when asking instead of just little bits and letting us guess? |
| 02:56.31 | axscode | oh sorry, i have to build a 2.6.17 for my toolchain, i have thsi embedded that its using debian gcc 3.3.4, glibc 2.3.2 and kernel 2.6.17 |
| 02:57.06 | axscode | and it has a binary module without source.. |
| 02:57.15 | darkbahamut | wols: my cd drive says Unable to mount volume |
| 02:57.30 | wols | !wayttd darkbahamut |
| 02:57.31 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, darkbahamut? |
| 02:57.52 | axscode | so i cant recreate that driver module to any kernel version coz i DONT ave the source for it. so i have to follow whats the existing platform versions. |
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| 02:58.18 | wols | axscode: how can such a platform be debian? cause it's there never was a debian release with those versions together |
| 02:58.28 | salfrancl | hola |
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| 02:58.42 | axscode | wols, the toolchain i guess was debian... |
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| 02:59.30 | axscode | GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)GCC: (GNU) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12).shstrtab.interp.note.ABI-tag.hash.dynsym.dynstr.gnu.version.gnu.version_r.rel.dyn.rel.plt.init.text.fini.rodata.data.eh_frame.dynamic.ctors.dtors.jcr.got.bss.comment |
| 02:59.31 | darkbahamut | wols: umm.. where is sources.list located again o.O |
| 02:59.41 | axscode | /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 03:00.28 | darkbahamut | axscode: thanks |
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| 03:00.47 | axscode | voip:/home/axscode/softdevbak# modinfo rcm_testmod_i.ko |
| 03:00.47 | axscode | vermagic: 2.6.17 mod_unload 586 gcc-3.3 |
| 03:00.56 | axscode | i have to mimic that vermagic.. |
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| 03:05.06 | Asmooh | is there a networking thing for debian and not windows shares but linux shares? |
| 03:05.58 | minus198 | Hello.. I have this weird problem with my internetconnection going down randomly.. This does not occur in windows or ubuntu. Does anyone have an idea of what can be the problem? |
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| 03:06.00 | kgoetz | hu? |
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| 03:06.14 | krazykit | Asmooh, NFS, perhaps? |
| 03:06.17 | Asmooh | hm |
| 03:06.28 | DawnLight | !nfs |
| 03:06.28 | dpkg | [nfs] Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about <ssh tunneled nfs>. |
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| 03:06.43 | Asmooh | heh |
| 03:06.51 | DawnLight | Asmooh: but it does work |
| 03:06.53 | darkbahamut | wols: is this bad when following the instructions i get E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-source |
| 03:06.55 | Asmooh | or appletalk ? |
| 03:08.21 | wols_ | darkbahamut: you didn't follow the instructions |
| 03:08.36 | wols_ | you need non-free and probably contrib |
| 03:08.45 | darkbahamut | wols_: o |
| 03:08.55 | darkbahamut | wols_: i thought i had it |
| 03:08.58 | Asmooh | thats why its better to download the nvidia drivers from the site.. |
| 03:11.21 | minus198 | Hello.. I have this weird problem with my internetconnection going down randomly.. This does not occur in windows or ubuntu. Does anyone have an idea of what can be the problem? |
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| 03:12.00 | darkbahamut | wols_: is that the deb http://ftp.tw.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free? |
| 03:12.02 | wols_ | !tell minus198 about errors |
| 03:12.11 | wols_ | darkbahamut: yes |
| 03:12.17 | darkbahamut | wols_: k ill add now |
| 03:12.17 | dondelelcaro | minus198: are you using dhcp? what happens when it goes down? can you ping? what does ifconfig -a; say? what does /var/log/daemon.log; say? |
| 03:12.36 | minus198 | dondelelcaro, I cant do nothing.. Everything just hands |
| 03:12.38 | minus198 | hangs* |
| 03:13.09 | dondelelcaro | minus198: does the mouse work? does numlock work? |
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| 03:13.38 | Chewy954 | is it possible to install debian under vmware natively? |
| 03:13.46 | minus198 | When I say: nothing. I was refering to the question: "internetconnectsion goes down randomly" |
| 03:13.49 | Chewy954 | Im using the net install, cant burn it since my burner is bad... |
| 03:13.57 | axscode | TARGET=i386-linux-gnu fakeroot debian/rules binary-cross > ../kernel-header.build 2>&1 || echo 'Build error' <-- is this correct to make a header? |
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| 03:14.07 | minus198 | in other words: I cant do anything that has to do with networking |
| 03:14.20 | wols_ | Chewy954: no. google "goodbye microsoft" |
| 03:14.27 | minus198 | And I'm not using DHCP |
| 03:15.15 | wols_ | minus198: running ifconfig -a hangs? |
| 03:15.23 | Chewy954 | i want xp still D:< |
| 03:15.34 | Chewy954 | it wont let me select a certain partition... only full discs :\ |
| 03:15.37 | ericlavigne | How can I upgrade from testing to unstable? |
| 03:15.44 | wols_ | Chewy954: wrong |
| 03:15.45 | dbmoodb | apt-get ... |
| 03:15.54 | dbmoodb | !unstable |
| 03:15.54 | dpkg | methinks unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>. |
| 03:15.58 | minus198 | wols_, No, the internetconnections just dies randomly, without doing anything else than normal internetbrowsing... |
| 03:16.10 | Chewy954 | wols_: it only shows a 160gb HD and no partitions :| |
| 03:16.11 | wols_ | minus198: answer dondelelcaro's question |
| 03:16.23 | dondelelcaro | minus198: then "hanging" isn't a really useful description; we need the rest of the information that I asked for, though. |
| 03:16.32 | Bushmills | Chewy954: when using a whole disk as device, I'd think you should be able to |
| 03:16.37 | Debugger | !testing |
| 03:16.37 | dpkg | hmm... testing is a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 03:16.38 | minus198 | Im about to put it in a pastebin.. |
| 03:16.40 | minus198 | hang on |
| 03:16.46 | Chewy954 | i cant use the whole disc |
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| 03:17.20 | ericlavigne | I prefer stable generally, but there are some packages in unstable that I would like to use. I'd be willing to accept a less stable desktop if that's the easiest way to get those packages. |
| 03:17.23 | wols_ | Chewy954: you need to make some free space before installing debian in any way on your disk |
| 03:17.32 | wols_ | ericlavigne: backports |
| 03:17.33 | Bushmills | Chewy954: afaik, vmware doesn't allow full access to a partition, but I may be mistaken. I know only of "whole disk" and virtual disk, i.e. file |
| 03:17.37 | kgoetz | ericlavigne: look at backports and or pinning |
| 03:17.39 | Chewy954 | wols_; I have a 15gb partition for it though. |
| 03:17.43 | Chewy954 | nope Bushmills |
| 03:17.48 | Chewy954 | can still select partitions |
| 03:17.58 | minus198 | dondelelcaro, http://pastebin.com/d8143338 |
| 03:17.58 | Chewy954 | but im selecting the whole disc so it can view the selected partition |
| 03:18.06 | Chewy954 | this is the only distro that doesnt see them :\ |
| 03:18.09 | minus198 | That is around the time it dropped... |
| 03:18.13 | ericlavigne | wols_: I will go read about backports now. thanks. |
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| 03:19.51 | minus198 | dondelelcaro, Do you see anything wrong? |
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| 03:20.35 | dondelelcaro | minus198: and what does route -n; ifconfig -a; and ping 192.168.0.1; say when it's not working? |
| 03:21.01 | minus198 | Havn't tried that.. |
| 03:21.10 | minus198 | I can check it next time it happens |
| 03:21.30 | dondelelcaro | minus198: that'll pretty much tell us the answer, most likely. |
| 03:21.35 | minus198 | ok |
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| 03:21.52 | dondelelcaro | minus198: the other thing that would be useful is to cat /etc/resolv.conf; and ping the nameservers listed there too. |
| 03:22.32 | osmosis | how do I cleanup conf files from something I apt-get removed |
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| 03:23.15 | erpo | osmosis: apt-get purge maybe? |
| 03:24.11 | Tramp | !tell osmosis about purge |
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| 03:33.12 | minus198 | ok dondelelcaro or wols_: http://pastebin.com/mebef749 |
| 03:33.14 | minus198 | There you go |
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| 03:33.52 | Asmooh | is there an console music player that haves a web admin? |
| 03:34.13 | Debugger | mpd probably |
| 03:34.22 | Guerin | gnump3d |
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| 03:34.35 | Eclipser | xmms2 |
| 03:34.38 | Debugger | gnump3d doesn't play music |
| 03:34.47 | Debugger | You still need a player |
| 03:35.05 | Guerin | Debugger: I realise. |
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| 03:36.34 | Asmooh | hm |
| 03:36.47 | Asmooh | i think i can buy a new disk those days |
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| 03:36.56 | Asmooh | it doesnt sound right my server disk |
| 03:37.39 | Asmooh | i knew maxtor will be dead soon or later |
| 03:39.14 | ttick | I'm trying to install java, and using the java-package method along with the latest from Sun Java1.6_3. I used to have gjc installed, but removed it all. Now, when I try java --version, it tells me it can't create the virtual machine. Anyone have an idea how to debug this? |
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| 03:39.35 | minus198 | wols_, dondelelcaro; ? |
| 03:40.23 | Asmooh | there i no web interface for mpd |
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| 03:42.05 | Tramp | minus198: and the connectivity comes back after a while? |
| 03:42.12 | minus198 | Tramp, yes |
| 03:42.22 | dondelelcaro | minus198: does dmesg say anything useful? Basically, your network is set up properly, but the gateway, 192.168.0.1, isn't there anymore. |
| 03:43.04 | dondelelcaro | minus198: when this happens do you still have link lights on your gateway? Can anything else ping the gateway? |
| 03:43.27 | dondelelcaro | minus198: does ping -b 192.168.0.255; return pings for things not 192.168.0.100? |
| 03:43.59 | minus198 | NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 100.14.19 Wed Sep 12 14:12:24 PDT 2007 |
| 03:43.59 | minus198 | eth1: no IPv6 routers present |
| 03:44.14 | minus198 | from dmesg |
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| 03:44.30 | minus198 | dondelelcaro, I can check that next time it happens |
| 03:44.53 | dondelelcaro | minus198: and at the end, is there anything like link partner down; or link up at 100mbit? |
| 03:45.01 | minus198 | dondelelcaro, nope |
| 03:45.21 | axscode | can someone point me to the URL for wiki of creating a kernel headers for debian? |
| 03:45.24 | minus198 | Well.. I bit higher up there is one.. |
| 03:45.38 | Tramp | minus198: when it happens next time, please also do an "arp -an" |
| 03:46.08 | Tramp | minus198: actually, do it also now (i.e. when it works) for comparison |
| 03:46.16 | Asmooh | axscode, its simpel: make menuconfig ; make ; make_modules ; make modules_install ; make install |
| 03:46.16 | minus198 | ok |
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| 03:46.33 | axscode | kernel headers ? |
| 03:46.40 | minus198 | Tramp, ? (192.168.0.1) at 00:18:4D:07:AB:88 [ether] on eth1 |
| 03:46.46 | Asmooh | oh thats when u compile it from source |
| 03:46.46 | Asmooh | :) |
| 03:46.50 | Asmooh | what i told |
| 03:46.52 | axscode | i want to make a linux-kernel-headers_2.6.17_i386.deb |
| 03:47.01 | axscode | a .deb i need |
| 03:47.09 | Asmooh | oh i dont know sorry :) |
| 03:47.11 | axscode | i already have a source. |
| 03:47.14 | Asmooh | i dont use .deb kernels |
| 03:47.15 | Tramp | minus198: ok. we'll see if this entry is there as well when your problem happens again. |
| 03:47.30 | minus198 | Tramp, sure |
| 03:48.33 | Tramp | minus198: also, what is your L2 setup? Is there a switch between you and the 0.1 and are there other hosts in the subnet? |
| 03:48.53 | minus198 | "L2"? |
| 03:49.19 | Tramp | minus198: Layer 2 - the cables 8) |
| 03:49.41 | minus198 | Ow.. OSI :3 |
| 03:49.51 | vlt | Hello. Can anyone explain this or give me a hint at least: I have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2. Both are type "fd" (raid). Both contain an md superblock with a UUID that is listed in mdadm.conf, too. Today I had to do a hard reset. Now the UUID (but not the creation date) of one the array components has changed. Any idea how this could have happen? |
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| 03:52.29 | minus198 | Tramp, Internet -> ISP modem -> Netgear router -> My computer. |
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| 03:53.07 | minus198 | Tramp, Everything is set up with atleast CAT 5 cables. |
| 03:53.51 | Tramp | minus198: ok. So the netgear is the 0.1 and there are no other systems in the net, right? |
| 03:54.01 | minus198 | Tramp, Well.. My server |
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| 03:55.08 | Tramp | minus198: Just for a quick test: ping it and tell me its MAC (with arp -an) |
| 03:55.47 | minus198 | ? (192.168.0.254) at 00:07:E9:C3:DF:92 [ether] on eth1 |
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| 03:57.27 | DawnLight | how does allow-hotplug work? is it udev doing it? |
| 03:57.30 | Tramp | minus198: ok. nothing special then. |
| 03:58.06 | amol | hi to all ,how to recover deleted file in ext3? |
| 03:58.42 | DawnLight | amol: firstly stop using the computer |
| 03:58.57 | DawnLight | beyond that, i don't know |
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| 03:59.10 | amol | DawnLight:super |
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| 03:59.54 | Tramp | !recover |
| 03:59.54 | dpkg | recover is, like, http://recover.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:00.10 | Tramp | no idea if that helps though 8/ |
| 04:00.31 | sarixe | oh shite, now i've gone and done it... i just installed drupal (which installed php5 mod for apache), and now no php works on my server... i had php4 before, and phpbb worked fine |
| 04:00.40 | sarixe | now neither drupal nor phpbb is working right |
| 04:01.04 | sarixe | i load the page, and instead of the page, it's "HEY! do you wanna save or open this PHTML file?" |
| 04:01.09 | DawnLight | sarixe: don't install stuff like drupal from apt |
| 04:01.15 | sarixe | oh... |
| 04:01.17 | sarixe | thanks |
| 04:01.26 | sarixe | (then why's it there?) |
| 04:01.38 | DawnLight | second, use aptitude. that way you'll know what is going to be done before you give the order |
| 04:01.47 | sarixe | i knew that's what'd be don |
| 04:01.47 | sarixe | e |
| 04:01.52 | DawnLight | some one thought it was a bright idea |
| 04:01.56 | sarixe | but i didn't know it'd affect the system like this |
| 04:02.20 | DawnLight | i mean, if you'd have used aptitude, then you'd have known that it replaces php4 |
| 04:02.29 | sarixe | i knew that already |
| 04:02.31 | DawnLight | ah |
| 04:02.32 | sarixe | synaptic also told me this |
| 04:02.43 | DawnLight | !aptitude |
| 04:02.43 | dpkg | i guess aptitude is "the preferred program for package management from console. aptitude supports most command line operations of apt-get and has proven to be better at dependency resolution than apt-get." (4.0 Release Notes). A mostly drop-in replacement for apt-get. Don't mix use of apt-get and aptitude. See <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>, http://tinyurl.com/2ebd4m http://tinyurl.com/2hw8nx http://tinyurl.com/2y783t |
| 04:02.47 | sarixe | but i didn't know it'd render the server incapable of doing php |
| 04:03.12 | sarixe | ah |
| 04:03.20 | DawnLight | well, you probebly need some package or two |
| 04:04.02 | DawnLight | libapache-mod-php5 |
| 04:04.09 | DawnLight | or apache2 |
| 04:04.09 | sarixe | that was installed |
| 04:04.16 | DawnLight | and php5 |
| 04:04.21 | sarixe | that too |
| 04:04.46 | DawnLight | php5-mysql if you need it |
| 04:05.04 | sarixe | also already installed |
| 04:05.47 | sarixe | ...so then what do i do? |
| 04:06.01 | sarixe | i should probably just go back to what i had before drupal |
| 04:06.14 | DawnLight | ahm... debug it. folks at #php may help you |
| 04:06.32 | sarixe | well i'd rather actually have it working with a known working package... |
| 04:06.36 | sarixe | for now, anyway |
| 04:07.00 | DawnLight | you can do that |
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| 04:07.31 | DawnLight | but by all means, find the time to learn aptitude |
| 04:07.37 | DawnLight | s/but/and |
| 04:07.57 | sarixe | yeah, i should probably do that |
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| 04:09.34 | sarixe | oh darn. putting things back the way they were... just didn't help. |
| 04:10.23 | DawnLight | sarixe: i suggest you get php specific help. whats the error, btw |
| 04:10.45 | sarixe | oy... and phpbb2 has a dependency on libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 04:10.51 | sarixe | which was uninstalled, without uninstalling phpbb2 |
| 04:11.18 | sarixe | i've never had that happen |
| 04:11.18 | DawnLight | aptitude wouldn't have done this without giving you some red |
| 04:11.29 | sarixe | i'm noticing this now... lol |
| 04:12.05 | sarixe | holy shit |
| 04:12.13 | sarixe | aptitude wants to remove a ton of packages |
| 04:12.47 | sarixe | all lookin' good |
| 04:12.55 | DawnLight | yes, becuase it was not it who installed them |
| 04:13.05 | sarixe | it's gnome stuff, which i don't need, seeing as this is a server. |
| 04:13.29 | DawnLight | you shouldn't mix apt-get with aptitude, btw |
| 04:13.36 | sarixe | mm |
| 04:14.21 | DawnLight | press F10 and go and press on help. that will be anough to get you started |
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| 04:18.05 | sarixe | uh, press F10 where? |
| 04:18.27 | DawnLight | in aptitude, for the menu |
| 04:18.36 | sarixe | oh... wow |
| 04:18.41 | sarixe | i wasn't even in that mode |
| 04:18.50 | sarixe | i was just using aptitude like apt-get |
| 04:18.54 | DawnLight | that's what i'm talking about |
| 04:18.58 | sarixe | geez... i really DO have a lot to learn |
| 04:19.22 | amol | how to read file whose MIME type is application/octet-stream |
| 04:20.32 | DawnLight | sarixe: in aptitude, pressing b finds broken packages, packages whose dependencies are missing |
| 04:20.42 | sarixe | aaaaah |
| 04:20.45 | sarixe | that'll help |
| 04:21.05 | sarixe | as of now, i'm running aptitude install gnome |
| 04:21.20 | sarixe | because i realized that it got rid of a lot of stuff i actually use by X forwarding on ssh |
| 04:21.46 | DawnLight | like what |
| 04:21.52 | sarixe | gedit, lol |
| 04:22.12 | sarixe | just random stuff that needs gnome |
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| 04:22.40 | sarixe | i know, you'll probably say to use some console editor... but i'm comfy with gnome for now |
| 04:22.50 | sarixe | gedit, rather |
| 04:22.59 | DawnLight | ahm... there are lots of editors for x. but vim really is more comfortable then all of those |
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| 04:23.13 | DawnLight | hehe |
| 04:23.17 | sarixe | what did i say? lol |
| 04:23.24 | DawnLight | well it is |
| 04:23.27 | sarixe | i can't even figure out vim |
| 04:23.40 | sarixe | it seems like just memorizing a bunch of one-letter shortcuts |
| 04:24.08 | sarixe | and i can't figure out how to actually get to the editing part |
| 04:24.10 | sarixe | :P |
| 04:24.44 | Eclipser | emacs is about figuring out a bunch of 2-4 letter shortcuts! |
| 04:24.50 | sarixe | (which is why i'd use nano, because it starts you off editing text, and you have the shortcuts laid out in front of you) |
| 04:25.09 | DawnLight | true, true. but when you do get it, the mouse seems a restrictive device |
| 04:25.28 | sarixe | true, but what does a keyboard shortcut do that a menu can't? |
| 04:25.39 | sarixe | (besides being quick) |
| 04:25.39 | dondelelcaro | use far fewer keys |
| 04:25.44 | Eclipser | DawnLight, indeed, I moved to wmii and vimperator ages ago :) |
| 04:25.47 | Eclipser | I don't use mouse much |
| 04:25.55 | dondelelcaro | and the other bits are that keyboard commands do loads of things that wouldn't fit into the menus |
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| 04:26.05 | DawnLight | Eclipser: what is wmii? |
| 04:26.11 | dondelelcaro | (emacs has menus too, but there are tens of thousands of commands) |
| 04:26.16 | Eclipser | a window damager |
| 04:26.24 | Eclipser | rather minimalistic one |
| 04:26.30 | Eclipser | wmii.suckless.org |
| 04:26.35 | DawnLight | damager... heh |
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| 04:27.05 | De_Mon | is there a command that downloads dependances for a source package? |
| 04:27.11 | simonrvn | i'm liking emacs hee :) |
| 04:27.13 | dondelelcaro | De_Mon: apt-get build-dep foo; |
| 04:27.22 | Eclipser | DawnLight, build-dep |
| 04:27.25 | Eclipser | errr |
| 04:27.26 | hardcampa | dondelelcaro: yeah but emacs is a lifestyle so... |
| 04:27.27 | Eclipser | damn it |
| 04:27.30 | hardcampa | =) |
| 04:27.41 | dondelelcaro | hardcampa: oh, sure... but at least it's a complete one |
| 04:27.49 | De_Mon | aww man, how did I miss that its right under source |
| 04:27.50 | hardcampa | hehe yeah |
| 04:27.52 | De_Mon | dondelelcaro thanks! |
| 04:27.56 | Eclipser | De_Mon, :) |
| 04:27.56 | dondelelcaro | De_Mon: np |
| 04:28.05 | hardcampa | I'm configuring my emacs way too much I think |
| 04:28.28 | dondelelcaro | well, the more you use emacs, the larger your .emacs gets |
| 04:28.47 | sarixe | ...so why is gnome 2.20 trickling into testing, rather than being ported in one big swoop? |
| 04:28.48 | hardcampa | yeah I know =) the most important part on that is to keep a backup |
| 04:28.51 | sarixe | (as a side) |
| 04:30.17 | robboplus_ | folks, i have a strange problem... trying to mount a small, 15GB ext3 parition with mount /dev/sdb1 /F and once i press enter the whole box reboots... wtf can be wrong? |
| 04:30.17 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: no kidding. i ended up splitting it twice |
| 04:30.32 | simonrvn | emacswiki doesn't help :P |
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| 04:30.33 | sarixe | DawnLight : F10 doesn't work, as i'm in gnome-terminal |
| 04:30.43 | simonrvn | sarixe: you can turn that off |
| 04:30.43 | sarixe | it opens the File menu |
| 04:30.46 | hardcampa | simonrvn: hehe you've also been hanging on that site way too much? |
| 04:30.53 | sarixe | simonrvn : how? |
| 04:30.57 | sarixe | options? |
| 04:31.06 | simonrvn | hardcampa: oh yeh :) |
| 04:31.21 | dryrot | what's a good debian package to install if i want to create a VPN that windows clients can easily connect to ? |
| 04:32.00 | wols_ | dryrot: openvpn for example |
| 04:32.05 | simonrvn | sarixe: last tab or something |
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| 04:32.27 | sarixe | meh, i'll just use xterm |
| 04:32.55 | dryrot | what's a good free dynamic DNS service ? |
| 04:33.01 | DawnLight | i want to launch a certain command when udev discovers that a cable is plugged in an ethernet device. any hints? |
| 04:33.02 | simonrvn | better choice ;) |
| 04:33.03 | hardcampa | dyndns.com |
| 04:33.11 | hardcampa | it's the biggest one I think |
| 04:33.21 | hardcampa | oh that was to you dryrot |
| 04:33.21 | DawnLight | i use dyndns cheerfully |
| 04:33.23 | sarixe | DawnLight : so then aptitude is to synaptic as vim is to gedit, basically? |
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| 04:33.40 | hardcampa | I use both a registered domain and dyndns actually |
| 04:33.50 | DawnLight | oh, i think the scale is bigger with vim |
| 04:33.55 | hardcampa | dyndns serves as a cname to set my registered domain =) |
| 04:34.06 | sarixe | ? |
| 04:34.22 | sarixe | hardcampa : what's the setup? |
| 04:34.29 | DawnLight | vim is so big you wouldn't beleive |
| 04:34.37 | sarixe | yeah, true |
| 04:35.04 | hardcampa | the setup is: i run ddclient on this machine (as I got a dynamic ip) that sets my dyndns.com address. My registered domain uses that name to get the ip =) |
| 04:35.15 | Eclipser | sarixe, rather, aptitude is to synaptic as vim is to gvim :) |
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| 04:35.28 | DawnLight | not quite Eclipser |
| 04:35.38 | Eclipser | closer than gedit :< |
| 04:35.40 | DawnLight | gvim wraps vim, right |
| 04:35.45 | acidchild | anyone know how i can install the NVidia binary driver, on AMD64 without running 64bit debian? |
| 04:35.57 | sarixe | and DawnLight : you can just click on the terminal, treat it as a GUI |
| 04:36.11 | kgoetz | DawnLight: gvim is a gtk GUi for vim yeah. |
| 04:36.15 | acidchild | i want high memory and smp pref. |
| 04:36.16 | DawnLight | i don't want it a gui :/ |
| 04:36.22 | sarixe | hahaha |
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| 04:36.42 | DawnLight | sarixe: try installing gpm for a touch of coolness |
| 04:36.50 | sarixe | that's what it is |
| 04:37.04 | sarixe | that's what i was even talking about |
| 04:38.12 | DawnLight | ouch i need sleep |
| 04:38.18 | sarixe | and i pressed b |
| 04:38.25 | sarixe | and no broken packages came up |
| 04:38.37 | DawnLight | thats nice |
| 04:38.45 | sarixe | probably because i installed libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 04:38.54 | Claudio32m | anyone know what gets installed when i type "apt-get install asm" which bins and/or other files? i'm assuming an assemly compiler and object linker? |
| 04:39.50 | kgoetz | Claudio32m: `apt-cache show asm` |
| 04:39.54 | Claudio32m | thanks kgoetz |
| 04:39.59 | DawnLight | Claudio32m: open aptitude and press /asm and press n till you find it and press enter and see the dependencies |
| 04:40.06 | DawnLight | or that |
| 04:40.24 | Claudio32m | kgoetz - i ahvent instaled it yet so it didnt work |
| 04:40.40 | kgoetz | Caino: yes it will work |
| 04:40.57 | Claudio32m | man i underestimated debian |
| 04:41.04 | kgoetz | hang on, getting my commands confused perhaps |
| 04:41.05 | Claudio32m | wish i had installed it years ago |
| 04:41.21 | Claudio32m | i was always into red hat, fedora |
| 04:41.30 | DawnLight | evil stuff |
| 04:41.32 | kgoetz | Claudio32m: i dont see an 'asm' package |
| 04:41.45 | kgoetz | which is why you cant 'show' it |
| 04:41.47 | Claudio32m | allright |
| 04:41.50 | Claudio32m | i saw it on google |
| 04:41.57 | Claudio32m | thats why i thought it was asm |
| 04:42.03 | DawnLight | !info asm |
| 04:42.23 | DawnLight | it messages me... |
| 04:42.31 | kgoetz | so? :) |
| 04:42.35 | DawnLight | i'm off. chau |
| 04:42.48 | sarixe | ciao |
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| 04:43.51 | kgoetz | later |
| 04:45.47 | sarixe | hm |
| 04:46.08 | sarixe | php5 nor 4 are in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ... |
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| 04:46.25 | GhostlyDeath | Can I rip an ISO of an audio CD and just copy that over and over again? |
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| 04:47.06 | kgoetz | sarixe: are they in mods-available? then link them in |
| 04:47.11 | sarixe | yep, they are |
| 04:47.14 | Rickywh1 | on the default install of debian, i created a user and after the install, comp rebooted as usual. when came up, i logged in as the non root user that i created during the install and tried to run ifconfig to see the IP. doesn't seem to work, is this normal? |
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| 04:47.59 | kgoetz | Rickywh1: yes, ifconfig isnt in the non-root users path |
| 04:48.04 | kgoetz | Rickywh1: /sbin/ifconfig will work though |
| 04:48.33 | Rickywh1 | ahh |
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| 04:48.38 | Rickywh1 | thx |
| 04:49.21 | kgoetz | np |
| 04:49.32 | sarixe | kgoetz : no difference |
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| 04:50.12 | kgoetz | sarixe: linked in? check the links are valid, then reload apache |
| 04:50.23 | Rickywh1 | is there putty for mac? |
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| 04:50.27 | sarixe | phpx.y are there, x being 4 or 5, y being load or conf |
| 04:50.34 | Rickywh1 | or easy way to connect to another pc's ssh on a mac |
| 04:50.41 | krazykit | how would i dd a partition table to sector 0 of a drive? dd if=the-table of=/dev/drive? |
| 04:50.44 | sarixe | lemme put that easier |
| 04:50.55 | kgoetz | Rickywh1: i expect theres a native ssh client, just wether it ships or not is a question |
| 04:50.58 | sarixe | php4.load, php4.conf, php5.load, php5.conf |
| 04:51.00 | sarixe | they're there |
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| 04:51.50 | kgoetz | sarixe: are in available or enabled? |
| 04:51.56 | sarixe | available |
| 04:51.58 | sarixe | not enabled |
| 04:52.22 | kgoetz | sarixe: can you pastebin `ls -lh /etc/apache2/mods-available` and `ls -lh /etc/apache2/mods-enabled` ? |
| 04:52.49 | sarixe | yep |
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| 04:53.40 | sarixe | ls -lh /etc/apache2/mods-available: http://pastebin.com/m6e1d226d |
| 04:54.31 | sarixe | ls -lh /etc/apache2/mods-enabled: http://pastebin.com/m311f2501 |
| 04:54.33 | amen | i'm installing nvidia drivers, than i need libc6 (>= 2.5), but is avaiable only for lenny, i'm using etch |
| 04:54.35 | Tramp | krazykit: to dump only the partition-table you have to skip 446 Byte. The file should be 64 Byte. |
| 04:55.15 | krazykit | ok |
| 04:55.28 | Tramp | krazykit: otherwise it is not a PT but probably the whole sector (512B) |
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| 04:56.52 | krazykit | ok, good. one of my partitions was recovered by gpart. need to manually make the other one, i guess |
| 04:57.12 | Rickywh1 | is it normal to get connection refused when trying to ssh into my newly installed debian ? |
| 04:57.12 | kgoetz | sarixe: looking |
| 04:57.16 | sarixe | k |
| 04:57.22 | kgoetz | Rickywh1: yes. no sshd by dfault |
| 04:57.35 | Rickywh1 | how can i turn that on |
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| 04:57.54 | kgoetz | Rickywh1: su root; `apt-get intall ssh` |
| 04:57.59 | sarixe | Rickywh : apt-get install ssh |
| 04:58.06 | Rickywh1 | k |
| 04:58.17 | sarixe | oops, wrong nick |
| 04:59.02 | kgoetz | sarixe: `ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php[4,5].[load,conf] /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/` (4,5=whichever you want, load,conf=both) |
| 04:59.19 | sarixe | kk |
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| 04:59.30 | Asmooh | hm |
| 04:59.30 | sarixe | i shoulda thought of that one |
| 04:59.37 | Asmooh | i have mpd running and stuff |
| 04:59.41 | Asmooh | but i dont have sound |
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| 05:00.07 | Asmooh | are there any things i need to do to get sound? |
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| 05:01.21 | darkbahamut | wols_: hey |
| 05:01.30 | darkbahamut | wols_: i got my nvidia driver working :D |
| 05:01.55 | darkbahamut | streuner: hey |
| 05:02.25 | sarixe | kgoetz : didn't work |
| 05:02.40 | sarixe | still getting the queue to open or save the PHTML file |
| 05:02.54 | wols_ | !prize darkbahamut |
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| 05:03.01 | kgoetz | sarixe: phtml? |
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| 05:03.09 | sarixe | yeah, it's confusing me too |
| 05:03.12 | sarixe | should be php |
| 05:03.15 | kgoetz | sarixe: have you made an asociation with apache for handling phtml? |
| 05:03.21 | iKernel | I have a very interesting non-consistent error for you guys =] |
| 05:03.22 | wols_ | darkbahamut: which version? |
| 05:03.25 | sarixe | uh, guess not |
| 05:03.30 | iKernel | I had to hand write it on a sheet of paper! |
| 05:03.31 | sarixe | but it worked before |
| 05:03.37 | iKernel | Typing it up in pastebin now |
| 05:03.40 | darkbahamut | wols_: i dunno o.O |
| 05:03.50 | sarixe | before i tried to install drupal (and php4 got replaced by php5, etc) |
| 05:03.52 | darkbahamut | wols_: i didnt choose a version |
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| 05:04.42 | darkbahamut | wols_: now my computer starts up without acpi=off |
| 05:04.51 | dryrot | i bet i'm on freenode |
| 05:04.53 | dryrot | why yes i am |
| 05:05.05 | darkbahamut | wols_: but i only tried once so i dunno if it works all the time |
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| 05:05.39 | wols_ | darkbahamut: let's hope for the best |
| 05:05.47 | darkbahamut | wols_: yea :D |
| 05:06.00 | darkbahamut | wols_: umm i got another problem though |
| 05:06.53 | wols_ | well? |
| 05:06.57 | darkbahamut | wols_: i installed ndiswrapper correctly and loaded the driver i even did the modprobe but my wlan is now showing up |
| 05:07.20 | wols_ | darkbahamut: ifconfig -a |
| 05:08.10 | darkbahamut | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/43130 |
| 05:09.24 | darkbahamut | wols_: i think i know the problem but im not sure 100% |
| 05:09.24 | darkbahamut | wols_: i was reading that with acpi=off sound and wlan dosent work |
| 05:09.36 | wols_ | darkbahamut: shouldn't matter |
| 05:09.42 | wols_ | isn't eth0 your wlan? |
| 05:09.52 | wols_ | iwconfig |
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| 05:10.00 | kgoetz | sarixe: you should ask #apache, this is out of my clue area |
| 05:10.00 | darkbahamut | wols_: yup.. with acpi=off i had no eth0 |
| 05:10.07 | sarixe | kgoetz : k |
| 05:10.46 | darkbahamut | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/43131 |
| 05:12.15 | darkbahamut | wols_: umm o.O nvm i got it now :D |
| 05:12.19 | amen | i'm installing nvidia driver 1.0-9XXX (beta) on etch and i need libc6 (>= 2.5), but it isn't avaiable for etch, can i use it to other way? |
| 05:12.27 | iKernel | http://pastebin.ca/793349 <-- Attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 05:12.36 | darkbahamut | wols_: now all thats left is my sound lol |
| 05:13.04 | iKernel | Could someone please tell me what this means? I've been getting these error messages inconsistently for a while now |
| 05:13.19 | iKernel | When I say inconsistently, I mean sometimes they come up, most of the time they don't |
| 05:13.47 | iKernel | usually I just hold down the power button, then turn the computer back on. once it happened twice in a row. |
| 05:13.50 | Rickywh1 | ok so why can't i login as root user on my freshly installed debian server? |
| 05:13.53 | wols_ | amen: where and how did you get the driver? |
| 05:13.56 | Rickywh1 | is the root username still root? |
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| 05:14.16 | wols_ | amen: if from lenny or sid you need to edit the /debian files and change the dependency |
| 05:14.41 | amen | i get the drivers http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/04/23/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ |
| 05:14.46 | iKernel | Is it a soon to be did hard drive? |
| 05:14.56 | iKernel | dead* |
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| 05:15.40 | amen | system will be testing?! right |
| 05:16.36 | sarixe | kgoetz : firefox cached the page, so it kept loading the wrong thing |
| 05:16.37 | sarixe | silly |
| 05:17.08 | kgoetz | sarixe: hehe. i keep having that problem too (testing some apache stuff) |
| 05:17.18 | sarixe | lol |
| 05:17.25 | sarixe | i probably should use dillo for some of this |
| 05:18.03 | Tramp | Rickywh: you are talking about the gdm (graphical) login, right? |
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| 05:19.40 | wols_ | amen: why not getting them from normal lenny? |
| 05:19.46 | darkbahamut | does anyone know what to do if sound plays but sounds rly bad? |
| 05:20.09 | wols_ | iKernel: use smartmontools to check |
| 05:20.15 | wols_ | darkbahamut: snd-hda-intel? |
| 05:20.21 | iKernel | wols_, will do |
| 05:20.23 | amen | wols_: uhm, take it from lenny repository? |
| 05:20.50 | wols_ | amen: yes. this is what this snapshot.debian.net is. only from older versions of lenny |
| 05:20.56 | darkbahamut | wols_: yup |
| 05:21.21 | amen | wols_: i want download and install it! only libc6 i need |
| 05:21.47 | darkbahamut | wols_: my sound card says nvidia but its really Conexant CX20549 |
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| 05:22.40 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what does lspci say? |
| 05:22.59 | amen | wols_: which way do u suggest? |
| 05:23.12 | darkbahamut | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/43132 |
| 05:23.45 | jeffwheeler | I can't seem to find this Googling, but how does apt determine it's auto-removable list? I installed and uninstalled some packages and now a lot of things I actually want (e.g. gnome-themes) are marked as auto-removable, and I'd like to remove them from that list. |
| 05:25.10 | darkbahamut | jeffwheeler: did you look at the synaptics package manager? |
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| 05:26.41 | jeffwheeler | darkbahamut: Yeah, I'm looking at it in Synaptic but I assume it's the same as apt-get and aptitude. |
| 05:27.34 | darkbahamut | jeffwheeler: pretty much, im new to linux so i dont know much i just use all 3 |
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| 05:29.31 | afx | anyone know what changes are needed to xorg.conf in order to make my laptop work with the projector? |
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| 05:31.01 | jeffwheeler | I suppose one option is to just uninstall and reinstall each important package that Synaptic wants to remove |
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| 05:32.08 | wols_ | jeffwheeler: did you use apt-get? |
| 05:32.36 | jeffwheeler | wols_: I installed most of the original things through Synaptic; I suspect I created the problem in my upgrade to sid |
| 05:32.45 | wols_ | amen: you cannot. maybe there is a backport but I doubt it. you need to backport it yourself most probably |
| 05:33.22 | wols_ | darkbahamut: all you can do is try a newer alsa and hope for the best :( |
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| 05:33.37 | darkbahamut | wols_: k |
| 05:33.46 | amen | wols_: i'm trying... to do something |
| 05:34.00 | darkbahamut | wols_: i know on my last install oss was working with some players |
| 05:34.25 | darkbahamut | wols_: but it didnt work with others because of no video and acpi=off |
| 05:34.56 | jeffwheeler | Hmm, why is it necessary to have esound (or some audio) installed to have most other GNOME apps? I don't even have speakers. |
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| 05:37.42 | darkbahamut | wols_: can irssi connect to 2 channels at once? |
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| 05:38.41 | darkbahamut | wols_: umm nvm o.O it can.. this is so cool xD |
| 05:38.42 | dalias | darkbahamut, of course |
| 05:38.54 | dalias | irssi is the definitive irc client :) |
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| 05:39.35 | darkbahamut | irssi rocks! |
| 05:39.40 | darkbahamut | brb o.O |
| 05:39.59 | mythomaniac | irssi is cool, yes, but xchat is nicer ;) |
| 05:40.50 | darkbahamut | never heard of it o.O |
| 05:41.11 | cafuego | o.O is typography now? |
| 05:41.12 | dalias | irssi is much nicer than xchat |
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| 05:41.34 | dalias | actual functionality rather than glitz |
| 05:41.39 | darkbahamut | o.O is like a emoticon |
| 05:41.49 | dalias | like support for per-target character encoding settings |
| 05:41.53 | cafuego | like one, so not actually one? |
| 05:42.07 | darkbahamut | ok it is 1 |
| 05:42.09 | mythomaniac | yes i know irssi is cool, but i dont know i dont like ncurse gui's |
| 05:42.19 | cafuego | !mock darkbahamut |
| 05:42.32 | axscode | whats the initrd-image for? |
| 05:42.33 | dalias | cafuego, well it's the japanese analog of emoticons |
| 05:42.38 | axscode | and how to make one? |
| 05:42.44 | darkbahamut | !configure cafuego |
| 05:42.51 | darkbahamut | lol |
| 05:42.51 | dalias | ^_^, >_<, ^_-, ^o^, etc.. |
| 05:43.06 | bwlang | axscode: it allows you to load modules before mounting filesystems. |
| 05:43.13 | bwlang | axscode: among other things |
| 05:43.21 | darkbahamut | cafuego: !configure is the only one i know lol |
| 05:43.36 | axscode | ahh.. coz i already created the kernel.. but i have an error on mounting bla bla |
| 05:43.40 | mythomaniac | o.O in the mmo games meant carebear |
| 05:43.49 | dalias | .. |
| 05:43.53 | mythomaniac | ;) |
| 05:43.55 | axscode | i think maybe because i dont have initrd |
| 05:44.05 | jeffwheeler | Alas, two statuses: Installed, and Not Installed. |
| 05:44.07 | cafuego | !lart me |
| 05:44.18 | bwlang | axscode: there's a --initrd argument to make-kpkg |
| 05:44.39 | amen | wols_: i try to do dpkg -i libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb, i need resolve other dependence, is the right way?! |
| 05:45.08 | axscode | fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:simon.1.0 kernel_image |
| 05:45.10 | axscode | thats it? |
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| 05:45.35 | wols_ | amen: no |
| 05:45.39 | axscode | or maybe may make menuconfig dont have the module for my devices... |
| 05:45.48 | wols_ | amen: do not install any packages directly from lenny |
| 05:46.19 | cafuego | axscode: Yup |
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| 05:46.28 | bwlang | axscode: make sure that grub is configured ot use the initrd too |
| 05:47.07 | bwlang | axscode: you only really need the filesystem modules in the initrd |
| 05:47.58 | amen | wols_: i don't know what to do... |
| 05:48.14 | axscode | but i dont have initrd-image |
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| 05:49.05 | axscode | i know how to configure grub.. but for now i dont have the initrd yet.. maybe you can show me whats the line for make-kpkg |
| 05:49.19 | Nyle | !kp mantra |
| 05:49.20 | dpkg | kp mantra is, like, make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 05:49.56 | axscode | ahh sweet |
| 05:50.53 | axscode | i have this error... scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o error 1 |
| 05:51.06 | axscode | do you know any deps that i missed? |
| 05:51.16 | Nyle | axscode: /msg dpkg kp |
| 05:51.35 | Nyle | just read |
| 05:52.50 | wols_ | amen: this is not the error btw |
| 05:53.26 | amen | wols_: btw? |
| 05:53.28 | darkbahamut | wols_: hmm no one is on #alsa talking like they are all afk |
| 05:53.51 | axscode | oh nice it works.. kp |
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| 05:55.07 | darkbahamut | does anyone know why my sound plays but sounds a bit messed up? |
| 05:55.34 | axscode | mine.. only headphone is working. my laptop speaker dont.. |
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| 05:57.05 | darkbahamut | my headphones dont work at all |
| 05:57.18 | darkbahamut | i plug them in and i still get sound from laptop speaker |
| 05:58.37 | dacs | guys anyone saw "I am legend" ? |
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| 05:59.58 | liable | Debian-Ubuntu: go away |
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| 06:00.14 | Debian-Ubuntu | i am here for development chat |
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| 06:01.24 | Nyle | !enter |
| 06:01.24 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 06:01.25 | Nyle | !enter |
| 06:01.29 | Nyle | !enter |
| 06:01.31 | Nyle | fucking bot |
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| 06:04.03 | Nyle | irc 'family' channels piss me off |
| 06:04.05 | Nyle | fuck em |
| 06:04.12 | Nyle | fuck people who don't like to use the word fuck |
| 06:04.21 | Nyle | fuck godamit im pissed off im gonna go get the fuck off irc |
| 06:04.21 | chemist | fuck |
| 06:04.24 | Nyle | goddamit |
| 06:05.15 | Nyle | i love #debian |
| 06:05.20 | Nyle | ahhhhh boy |
| 06:05.53 | kgoetz | !hit Nyle |
| 06:06.02 | Nyle | I can't say fuck in a chat room to protect your fucking kids |
| 06:06.03 | Nyle | think abou tit |
| 06:06.14 | Nyle | you can't say shit or piss or suck or fuck i those irc channels |
| 06:06.18 | liable | i frequently think about tit |
| 06:06.24 | Nyle | cuz the goddamn parents can't be bothered to mind thier own kids |
| 06:06.34 | Nyle | I have to modify my behaviour to protect your kids |
| 06:06.38 | Nyle | man fuck your kids |
| 06:06.43 | Nyle | ok |
| 06:06.44 | Nyle | I'm done |
| 06:06.47 | Nyle | . |
| 06:07.05 | Nyle | liable: hehe |
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| 06:08.43 | Nyle | kgoetz: I'm gonna hurt you |
| 06:09.17 | kgoetz | Nyle: really? |
| 06:09.26 | Nyle | no |
| 06:09.27 | Nyle | not really |
| 06:09.30 | Nyle | I'm just saying |
| 06:09.32 | Nyle | :( |
| 06:09.47 | kgoetz | soft cock :| |
| 06:10.02 | Nyle | unlike you, at least I have one. |
| 06:10.06 | Nyle | OOHHH |
| 06:10.10 | Nyle | BURN! |
| 06:10.24 | chemist | enough now |
| 06:10.29 | kgoetz | oh, cutting<sarcasm> :) |
| 06:10.48 | kgoetz | :) |
| 06:11.06 | Nyle | hehe |
| 06:11.22 | Guerin | dexter |
| 06:11.31 | Nyle | Guerin: whats up |
| 06:11.34 | Guerin | gawdamn sloppy focus |
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| 06:11.46 | Nyle | this green I got |
| 06:11.48 | Nyle | oh man |
| 06:11.53 | Guerin | Nyle: things are good. It's getting on to summer and I have a massive road-trip planned. |
| 06:12.00 | Nyle | summer? |
| 06:12.01 | liable | s/ou/e |
| 06:12.06 | Nyle | where are you? |
| 06:12.23 | Guerin | Nyle: we call it home' |
| 06:12.29 | Nyle | Im sure |
| 06:12.30 | Nyle | but where |
| 06:12.44 | liable | the 20% still living there |
| 06:12.46 | Guerin | Aotearoa |
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| 06:12.59 | Nyle | like I have any fucking idea where that is |
| 06:13.14 | Nyle | if its a country, I've never heard of it |
| 06:13.31 | Nyle | Guerin: nz? |
| 06:13.34 | Nyle | last I knew |
| 06:13.38 | Nyle | I'm sorry I am a pothead |
| 06:13.48 | Guerin | bloody stoners |
| 06:13.53 | kgoetz | heh |
| 06:13.55 | Nyle | every 1 year you're in a diff fuckint contry |
| 06:14.06 | Nyle | i can't keep tabs on em all man |
| 06:14.15 | Guerin | Nyle: i've been here 18 months |
| 06:14.27 | Guerin | prior to that it was every month, though |
| 06:14.29 | Nyle | hell, few years ago I thought you were korean |
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| 06:15.30 | Nyle | Aotearoa (pronounced: [aoËteaËroa] listen (help·info)) is the most widely known and accepted MÄori name for New Zealand. It is used by both MÄori and non-MÄori, and is becoming increasingly widespread in the bilingual names of national organisations, such as the National Library / Te Puna MÄtauranga o Aotearoa.[1] |
| 06:15.35 | Nyle | omg |
| 06:15.38 | Nyle | Guerin: you are a dick |
| 06:15.44 | Nyle | coulda just said nz |
| 06:15.58 | Nyle | I swear to god im gonna hurt you one of these days |
| 06:16.01 | Guerin | Nyle: but that's not its name ;) |
| 06:16.24 | Nyle | hey man |
| 06:16.28 | Nyle | its land, on Zea, and its new |
| 06:16.34 | Nyle | thus, New fucking Zea Land |
| 06:16.40 | Nyle | got it? |
| 06:16.51 | CaT[tm] | feel the love :) |
| 06:16.58 | Nyle | he knows me |
| 06:17.01 | Nyle | this is how i show love |
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| 06:17.59 | SpeedyG | anyone know if there's a dedicated video/multimedia channel on freenode ? |
| 06:18.22 | Nyle | SpeedyG: #music is all i know |
| 06:18.30 | Nyle | SpeedyG: try /list *search here* |
| 06:19.24 | SpeedyG | hm, comes up empty :( |
| 06:19.58 | Nyle | what did you search for? |
| 06:20.07 | SpeedyG | video, multimedia |
| 06:20.10 | Nyle | I started a channel like that |
| 06:20.13 | Nyle | ##recording |
| 06:20.21 | SpeedyG | nobody there |
| 06:20.24 | Nyle | but no one showed interest so i stopped going cuz it was taking up a window |
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| 06:20.42 | Nyle | try in #music |
| 06:20.58 | Nyle | SpeedyG: what do you want anyway? |
| 06:21.58 | SpeedyG | Nyle: i'm fiddling a bit with avidemux trying to resize vids so they play decently on my pda.. but i've got one file I cant open.. after a bit of searching I found that theres a problem with its index.. but rebuilding it doesnt really seem to work |
| 06:22.13 | Nyle | is it porn? |
| 06:22.16 | SpeedyG | nope |
| 06:22.20 | Nyle | i can't help you then |
| 06:22.26 | Klowner | lol |
| 06:22.28 | Nyle | :D |
| 06:22.55 | SpeedyG | i've downloaded loads of epps of several series, but never got the time to watch them at home :p |
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| 06:22.59 | Nyle | SpeedyG: what file is it? |
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| 06:23.03 | SpeedyG | .avi |
| 06:23.04 | Nyle | what codec? |
| 06:23.15 | Guerin | avi means nothing |
| 06:23.16 | darkbahamut | anyone know how to update alsa? |
| 06:23.23 | axscode | !manta |
| 06:23.25 | Guerin | darkbahamut: you don't. |
| 06:23.31 | axscode | !mantra |
| 06:23.34 | Nyle | axscode: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 06:23.40 | Nyle | axscode: /msg dpkg dpkgbot |
| 06:24.03 | darkbahamut | Guerin: o |
| 06:24.20 | liable | darkbahamut: get the tarballs from alsaproject.org |
| 06:24.20 | SpeedyG | Nyle: xvid |
| 06:24.32 | Guerin | liable: are you insane? |
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| 06:24.47 | Guerin | (this from the department of satupid questions) |
| 06:24.54 | liable | i recently had big problems with encoding for my phone, stupid faac had a bug |
| 06:25.04 | liable | Guerin: certifiably |
| 06:25.11 | Nyle | satupid? |
| 06:25.16 | Nyle | is that worse than stupid? |
| 06:25.18 | Guerin | Nyle: say it aloud |
| 06:25.26 | Nyle | hmm |
| 06:25.29 | Nyle | sounds goofy |
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| 06:25.35 | liable | !yinzersmite Guerin |
| 06:25.53 | Nyle | ...the fuck? |
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| 06:29.12 | Decepticon | how do i chmod everything inside a folder (its contents and subfolders and files) to be a specific permission in one fell swoop command instead of changing dirs and chmoding each file individually |
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| 06:29.37 | mrrcp | heh |
| 06:29.37 | liable | -R |
| 06:29.57 | mrrcp | chmod 655 /home/mrrcp/* |
| 06:29.59 | mrrcp | :P |
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| 06:31.04 | daya | $ cdrecord --scanbus |
| 06:31.04 | daya | wodim: No such file or directory. |
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| 06:31.24 | darkbahamut | wols_: hey is this safe to try? just the headphone jack part https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hp_dv6000_series_(dv6116eu)#head-465c97b58f8ed5d0d780c07da69039fed6896147 |
| 06:31.27 | zythmer | Decepticon: Depends on what you want to recursively chmod. Directories and files or just directories? -R is fine for both. Use file with -exec and -type for one or the other. |
| 06:31.31 | daya | how do i solve this porb. |
| 06:31.50 | cast | hmm, /etc/motd is automatically generated right? from motd.tail and something else, what is it that generates /etc/motd? or am i confused and its not autogenerated at all, if so what is the deal with motd.tail [and i suspect .head]? |
| 06:31.52 | Decepticon | i see.. ill try with -R |
| 06:31.52 | zythmer | err s/file/find/ |
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| 06:45.22 | amen | i have pentium d, and i use etch i386, but i used amd64 in unstable... and i see amd64 is better, i remember my nvidia 7600gt works better than in i386 |
| 06:46.00 | cast | cool. |
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| 06:48.13 | darkbahamut | wols_: hey |
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| 06:52.51 | Chewy954 | can someone help me fix my partition table? Not sure how.... I'm in XP wanting to dualboot. |
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| 06:53.09 | sauvin | happy American turkey day. |
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| 06:54.13 | streuner | sauvin: heh? |
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| 06:54.55 | streuner | Chewy954: so you want get rid of XP? just download Debian and install it ;-) |
| 06:55.05 | sauvin | Streuner: in the US, it's Thanksgiving Day, a feast day. One usually eats tureky. |
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| 06:55.17 | mrrcp | heh |
| 06:55.23 | cast | 'wanting to dualboot' kind of implies he wants xp to stay :P |
| 06:55.31 | mrrcp | what did u google that |
| 06:55.45 | cast | Chewy954: so how is it fucked, or broken, or not working as you want? |
| 06:55.54 | cast | Chewy954: and how did you break it, too |
| 06:56.31 | Chewy954 | not sure |
| 06:56.32 | streuner | cast: no, it implies that someone is broken, and my guess is that XP is the course ;-) |
| 06:56.41 | Chewy954 | used acronis to make some partitions today. |
| 06:56.43 | streuner | s/someone/something/ |
| 06:56.45 | Chewy954 | swap, ext3. |
| 06:56.50 | Chewy954 | possible that broke it. |
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| 06:57.07 | Chewy954 | and streuner |
| 06:57.07 | Chewy954 | no |
| 06:57.09 | cast | well, i'm no help, nfi what acronis is. |
| 06:57.10 | Chewy954 | xp is not broken |
| 06:57.15 | Chewy954 | the partition table is :p |
| 06:57.19 | liable | Chewy954: you arent making much sense. try explaining what you have done, and what exactly isnt working |
| 06:57.34 | streuner | Chewy954: only XP booting and Debian not? |
| 06:57.55 | Chewy954 | My partition table is broken.... not much u can explain about that :\ |
| 06:57.59 | Chewy954 | So it only boots to XP |
| 06:58.07 | Chewy954 | and the debian install doesnt identify partitions. |
| 06:58.17 | mrrcp | thats more like boot not partition |
| 06:58.21 | mrrcp | grub |
| 06:58.21 | Chewy954 | And I cannot reformat, so I have to fix my partition table.... |
| 06:58.23 | Chewy954 | no |
| 06:58.28 | Chewy954 | its the partition table |
| 06:58.31 | Chewy954 | im 100% certain |
| 06:58.40 | Chewy954 | debian is not installed yet also. |
| 06:58.42 | Chewy954 | only XP. |
| 06:58.46 | mrrcp | lol |
| 06:58.48 | mrrcp | ok |
| 06:59.05 | mrrcp | Well u have 2 partitions already no? |
| 06:59.10 | Chewy954 | i have 7 |
| 06:59.10 | Chewy954 | lol |
| 06:59.16 | mrrcp | eh |
| 06:59.19 | mrrcp | ok |
| 06:59.23 | Chewy954 | 2 are OS's. |
| 06:59.25 | cast | lol. |
| 06:59.25 | Chewy954 | 1 is recovery. |
| 06:59.29 | Chewy954 | others are for files. |
| 06:59.36 | mrrcp | anyways |
| 06:59.49 | mrrcp | choose one and let debian format and part for its needs |
| 06:59.57 | mrrcp | auto part just the 1 |
| 07:00.03 | Chewy954 | .....it cant choose one :| |
| 07:00.09 | mrrcp | MANUAL |
| 07:00.11 | Chewy954 | it only sees the disk. |
| 07:00.14 | Chewy954 | >_> |
| 07:00.17 | Chewy954 | not partitions.... |
| 07:00.26 | mrrcp | hrm |
| 07:00.27 | cast | so it sees an unpartitioned disk? |
| 07:00.31 | Chewy954 | im guessing u u dunno what a partition table really is? :| |
| 07:00.33 | Chewy954 | yes |
| 07:00.59 | cast | yet if xp boots it can't be completely fubar, how fun |
| 07:01.12 | Chewy954 | yeah lol |
| 07:01.13 | mrrcp | heh sounds fuxed to me |
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| 07:01.19 | Chewy954 | only some partitions seem broken |
| 07:01.24 | Chewy954 | mrrcp: no shit :p |
| 07:01.26 | mrrcp | rm -rf * |
| 07:01.27 | Chewy954 | lol |
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| 07:01.31 | Chewy954 | hell no |
| 07:01.35 | cast | does cfdisk or fdisk [the linux one] see the partition table correctly? [not sure what the debian installer uses as a backend] |
| 07:01.36 | Chewy954 | if u read i cant reformat :| |
| 07:01.43 | Chewy954 | have some data on here I cannot lose |
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| 07:01.49 | liable | partman |
| 07:01.50 | Chewy954 | fdisk does. |
| 07:02.36 | darkbahamut | wols_: i didnt fix the acpi.. its like a 50-50 chance that i will get a black screen or not |
| 07:02.44 | darkbahamut | wols_: but i got my sound working |
| 07:02.51 | cast | if you can't lose the data then one can deduce it is well backed up, btw :P |
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| 07:03.31 | mrrcp | in fdisk go to option 3 then 4 and press enter enter enter REAL QUIT |
| 07:03.34 | mrrcp | QUICK |
| 07:03.49 | Chewy954 | what does it do? :3 |
| 07:03.52 | mrrcp | :) problem solved |
| 07:03.59 | mrrcp | re install |
| 07:03.59 | Chewy954 | i know u can fix it with WinHex but :| |
| 07:04.15 | mrrcp | Partition Magic |
| 07:04.15 | Chewy954 | most of those recreate the partition table |
| 07:04.22 | Chewy954 | which would force me to lose my data |
| 07:04.27 | Chewy954 | which is why i cant :p |
| 07:04.51 | cast | fdisk has option 3 and 4? huh? |
| 07:05.00 | mrrcp | so u just want to make the 2 basic paritions for linux then |
| 07:05.06 | Chewy954 | no |
| 07:05.10 | Chewy954 | nvm |
| 07:05.14 | Chewy954 | I'll fix it on my own |
| 07:05.19 | Chewy954 | dont think u guys understand :\ |
| 07:05.58 | mrrcp | cast |
| 07:06.12 | mrrcp | i know the old fdisk did |
| 07:06.18 | mrrcp | for winblows |
| 07:06.38 | cast | i get letters a to x, ahh never used windows one |
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| 07:06.54 | g3brown | I had mail going out through smart host and everything worked fine. I switched ISP and my new ISP requires SMTP authentication. I added my smtp server, username, and password to the passwd.client file and adjusted the update-exim4.conf.conf file, but I'm still not getting the mail to go out. Anyone familiar with this? |
| 07:07.09 | cast | Chewy954: so that was a yes for the *linux* fdisk seeing the partition table correctly? |
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| 07:07.25 | Chewy954 | yes cast |
| 07:07.32 | Chewy954 | its only some partitions it seems |
| 07:07.40 | Chewy954 | let me see if deleting them will fix the issue |
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| 07:07.52 | Chewy954 | since it will attempt to edit the partition table |
| 07:07.54 | Chewy954 | worth a shot |
| 07:08.15 | cast | do it with linux fdisk, apparently different partitioning tools are subtly different in their actions |
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| 07:11.04 | Dewi | g3brown: what errors are logged? |
| 07:11.27 | cast | i try to avoid logical partitions personally, seems to make the situation slightly more complex |
| 07:11.41 | g3brown | dewey: Authentication Requried (deilvery error message) |
| 07:11.59 | g3brown | Dewi: whoops - Authentication Required (delivery error message) |
| 07:12.09 | Dewi | g3brown: sounds like it's not authing |
| 07:12.29 | Dewi | g3brown: I'm not really experienced with smarthosts but it sounds like you might need to enable auth as well as just specifying your login detiasl |
| 07:12.33 | Dewi | details |
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| 07:13.03 | g3brown | Dewi: what enables auth? For reading it appears I just put it in the passwd.client file. Is there something else? |
| 07:13.39 | darkbahamut | hey has anyone ever tried aircrack? |
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| 07:20.35 | ryty | anyone know what's up with Blackdown Java's page? |
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| 07:26.54 | codeshepherd | what is wrong with this scp command ? "scp /tmp/tomcat_tmp/ccev236/ ccetrn45@cougar1:/home/enduser/ccetrn45/AutoDock/UD-Autodock-R1/sample_data " ............ it puts the message "usage: scp ... " |
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| 07:29.09 | sep | codeshepherd, use -r if you want to copy the whold directory ccev236 |
| 07:29.45 | sep | codeshepherd, in ccev236/ you should skip the last / if you want to copy the ccev236 dir, |
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| 07:30.27 | dacs | what happen to the"whois " it doesn't give info any more ? |
| 07:31.10 | axscode | must be tired |
| 07:32.46 | streuner | dacs: use another server then |
| 07:33.12 | EruditeHermit | hi, can anyone help me with the gimp. I get a crash whenever I click on the drawing window. |
| 07:33.34 | streuner | sounds like unstable :-) |
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| 07:34.04 | streuner | Eruditel: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 07:36.10 | EruditeHermit | streuner: 2.7-0exp8 |
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| 07:36.18 | streuner | haha |
| 07:36.19 | amen | hey this is my log boot, what's this error? http://rafb.net/p/RqmAKa68.html |
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| 07:36.32 | streuner | Eruditel: slap yourself :-) |
| 07:36.43 | darkbahamut | streuner: hey |
| 07:36.49 | streuner | hi |
| 07:36.52 | EruditeHermit | streuner: what version should I work with? |
| 07:36.58 | darkbahamut | streuner: i got my sound, video and wlan working :D |
| 07:37.11 | streuner | !congratulate darkbahamut |
| 07:37.11 | dpkg | Good show darkbahamut, you did it! |
| 07:37.22 | darkbahamut | :D |
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| 07:37.41 | tralala | EruditeHermit, stable |
| 07:37.50 | darkbahamut | streuner: i can boot without acpi=off but i get random black screen or no black screen |
| 07:38.02 | darkbahamut | streuner: thats the only problem i think |
| 07:38.35 | streuner | darkbahamut: so sound and wlan working, but not the videocard? |
| 07:38.48 | darkbahamut | streuner: video card works |
| 07:39.15 | streuner | darkbahamut: thats no laptop? |
| 07:39.28 | streuner | ACPI sucks sometimes... |
| 07:39.32 | darkbahamut | streuner: its a laptop |
| 07:39.46 | streuner | hm, did you read /msg dpkg laptops then? |
| 07:39.49 | streuner | !laptops |
| 07:39.49 | dpkg | it has been said that laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 07:40.12 | darkbahamut | dosent help |
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| 07:41.12 | Nyle | hey |
| 07:43.31 | streuner | darkbahamut: well, pick one out of the list which works, and sell the fucking nvidia stuff... |
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| 07:44.13 | streuner | Thinkpads just works âĒ |
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| 07:44.21 | DimGR | hi |
| 07:44.27 | DimGR | has anyone set up samba to act as a domain controller server? my clients cant always connect and not all of them can connect... .... would someone take a look at my smb.conf if i upload it? |
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| 07:44.49 | darkbahamut | streuner: lol this is an expensive laptop crappy but it cost alot |
| 07:44.52 | streuner | darkbahamut: what kind of issue is that at all? |
| 07:45.22 | darkbahamut | streuner: acpi? |
| 07:45.25 | anomaly | anyone mind pointing me in the right direction for installing debian w/out a hdd? I was thinking booting from cd, to get it going.. but then I am groping for how I could install it to. and then, would it be a netboot? lol |
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| 07:46.10 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 07:46.11 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 07:46.36 | streuner | anomaly: /msg dpkg ig |
| 07:46.39 | dimir | Moin! |
| 07:46.43 | darkbahamut | streuner: do you have all the bots commands memorized? |
| 07:47.09 | anomaly | streuner ty |
| 07:47.09 | streuner | darkbahamut: nah, only a little of them ;-) |
| 07:47.12 | DimGR | anyone?:) |
| 07:47.47 | darkbahamut | streuner: its a bit hard to remember what is for what |
| 07:48.00 | streuner | darkbahamut: only which are often useful here |
| 07:48.42 | darkbahamut | streuner: i find the most usefull !configure |
| 07:48.48 | darkbahamut | streuner: lol jk |
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| 07:48.57 | streuner | darkbahamut: in fact, if you know how to ask the bot, it solve mostly all of the problems in Debian |
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| 07:49.33 | darkbahamut | streuner: i dont know.. i dont rly like the bot |
| 07:49.35 | streuner | problems to configure and such |
| 07:49.51 | darkbahamut | !configure dpkg |
| 07:50.14 | streuner | if you use Debian, you will love the bot(s) then, soon or later |
| 07:50.16 | sep | streuner, given that resoning, you can say that , if you learn to read the documentation you can solve all of your problems,. (and you'd be right) :) |
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| 07:50.32 | anomaly | hrmm.. I am seeing all things on installing from cd.. but nothing yet on how to install to a nfs drive and boot from it when done with cd |
| 07:50.35 | streuner | sep: sure, configure and such things |
| 07:50.46 | streuner | sep: not bugs |
| 07:51.06 | sep | ofcourse. |
| 07:51.08 | streuner | anomaly: read ig |
| 07:51.43 | anomaly | I will continue to read the installation guide..lol. :) pardon my ignorance. |
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| 07:52.56 | streuner | !sex |
| 07:52.56 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install diaphram; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 07:53.05 | streuner | darkbahamut: ^^^ |
| 07:53.09 | sep | anomaly, you want to make a machine with root on nfs ? you could look at the ltsp packages. |
| 07:53.25 | darkbahamut | lol |
| 07:53.34 | anomaly | sep as I say, harddrive died, so I am trying to get it running again. just diskless. however I can. |
| 07:53.35 | anomaly | :) |
| 07:53.50 | anomaly | thought I could set up nfs on this machine so it would have space to store data and such |
| 07:53.57 | darkbahamut | streuner: lol the bot knows all |
| 07:54.07 | anomaly | but getting it installed and bootable on the diskless is what I am working on :) |
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| 07:54.58 | darkbahamut | hey what cool apps does linux have? |
| 07:55.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | rm :) |
| 07:55.30 | neotic | tac |
| 07:55.34 | smiler | bash |
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| 07:55.39 | squisher | Hi, does anyone know a good page for more complex asoundrc setups? Tried my luck in #alsa, but noone's home :-\ |
| 07:56.01 | streuner | alsa website has plenty of docs |
| 07:56.16 | sep | darkbahamut, run apt-cache seach ? |
| 07:56.28 | darkbahamut | sep: whats that do? |
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| 07:56.43 | sep | darkbahamut, lists all the cool apps in linux |
| 07:56.46 | EruditeH1rmit | streuner: I downgraded to 2.6.1-6 and I still get the same problem |
| 07:56.52 | darkbahamut | sep: o |
| 07:56.55 | smiler | or run aptitude for abit more managable list :P |
| 07:57.05 | darkbahamut | are there any gba emulators? |
| 07:57.21 | smiler | darkbahamut: vgba comes to mind |
| 07:57.24 | squisher | streuner: well, none about chaining plugins in more complex ways, unfortunately |
| 07:57.33 | smiler | darkbahamut: http://www.komkon.org/fms/VGBA/ |
| 07:57.46 | sep | darkbahamut, well to be more correct it lists all cool apps in the repos you have configured your debian machine to use. |
| 07:57.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh :) |
| 07:58.06 | darkbahamut | cool :D |
| 07:58.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbahamut: xpilot :) |
| 07:58.24 | streuner | !+tell darkbahamut -about popcon |
| 07:58.24 | dpkg | told darkbahamut about popcon. |
| 07:58.46 | darkbahamut | popcon? |
| 07:58.53 | streuner | !popcon |
| 07:58.53 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:59.07 | sep | anomaly, export your rootfs, no squashing. make a initrd that supports nebooting. put kernel and initrd on a floppy/cd/pxe/whatever install a bootloader like syslinux, grub, pxelinux or whatever and give the kernel the args to find the rootfs on the nfs server |
| 07:59.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | squisher: you did look in the FAQ, didn't you? http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026 |
| 07:59.16 | streuner | darkbahamut: Debian User vote for there favorite apps... |
| 07:59.26 | darkbahamut | streuner: cool |
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| 07:59.46 | darkbahamut | whats xpilot? |
| 08:00.04 | anomaly | sep easy enough all said.. will have to take that apart piece by piece with much doc reading and tinkering lol |
| 08:00.06 | streuner | darkbahamut: apt-cache show xpilot |
| 08:00.07 | anomaly | ty though |
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| 08:00.36 | squisher | CutMeOwnThroat: Not what I want to do :-) I want to mix some pcm from a virtual device together with the microphone input and present that to an app... that's much different from what the faq mentions |
| 08:00.47 | streuner | darkbahamut: apt-cache search xpilot |
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| 08:01.26 | streuner | !sep++ |
| 08:01.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbahamut: I guess it depends a lot what you consider "cool" doesn't it? Which again depends on what you want to do... |
| 08:01.59 | sep | anomaly, just imagine all you'll learn !! in a week you'll run the entire office on diskless machines :) |
| 08:02.05 | darkbahamut | sounds like a flight simulator.. dosent have much info on it |
| 08:02.28 | sep | it's a very nice setup too. easy to keep all machines with the same packages and the same config since they run from the same nfsroot :) |
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| 08:02.59 | sep | !karma streuner |
| 08:02.59 | dpkg | streuner has karma of 2 |
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| 08:04.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | now... is 2 good or bad :) |
| 08:04.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably negative== bad |
| 08:04.34 | streuner | !karma greycat |
| 08:04.35 | dpkg | greycat has karma of 48 |
| 08:04.43 | darkbahamut | woa |
| 08:04.44 | streuner | thats a good value :-) |
| 08:04.54 | darkbahamut | !karma streuner |
| 08:04.54 | dpkg | streuner has karma of 2 |
| 08:05.05 | darkbahamut | why do you still have 2? |
| 08:05.32 | streuner | darkbahamut: How should i know, users give karma when they want to |
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| 08:06.00 | darkbahamut | streuner: but someone gave you karma b4 me and you had 2 then and now |
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| 08:06.12 | krimx | I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 right now and I'm thinking about switching to Debian Sid. Is it a very bad idea if I'm not a linux guru? Is there someplace you can check to see that everything is ok before you update to avoid breaking something? Any site recommendations to learn how to handle sid? |
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| 08:06.39 | streuner | krimx: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 08:06.45 | sep | darkbahamut, becouse you give karma with !nick++/-- !karma just shows it out |
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| 08:07.03 | darkbahamut | sep: oo i see now |
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| 08:07.26 | EruditeH2rmit | streuner: what version of libc6 should I go back to in order for it to work? |
| 08:07.27 | darkbahamut | !streuner++ |
| 08:07.36 | darkbahamut | oops |
| 08:07.39 | streuner | thank you |
| 08:07.44 | darkbahamut | !streuner++/-- |
| 08:07.46 | darkbahamut | hmm |
| 08:07.55 | darkbahamut | !karma streuner |
| 08:07.55 | dpkg | streuner has karma of 3 |
| 08:07.59 | darkbahamut | cool |
| 08:07.59 | streuner | Eruditel: to tell you the truth, if you have to ask, you shouldnt run unstable/sid then |
| 08:08.23 | darkbahamut | !karma darkbahamut |
| 08:08.24 | dpkg | darkbahamut has neutral karma |
| 08:08.29 | darkbahamut | lol |
| 08:08.32 | darkbahamut | cool |
| 08:08.41 | darkbahamut | i am neutral |
| 08:09.01 | streuner | darkbahamut: you only give karma very rare... |
| 08:09.04 | sep | good or eveil ? |
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| 08:09.18 | krimx | streuner: Yeah I've read that one but I was hoping it was old and outdated and that sid would now be super stable and newbie friendly :) |
| 08:09.29 | darkbahamut | !karma dpkg |
| 08:09.29 | dpkg | dpkg has karma of 10 |
| 08:09.48 | darkbahamut | wow the bot has karma o.O |
| 08:09.49 | sep | the bot have karma :D |
| 08:09.53 | darkbahamut | lol |
| 08:10.06 | streuner | krimx: is english your native language? |
| 08:10.15 | sep | he'll be reincarnated as a robot next then ? |
| 08:10.18 | krimx | streuner: Nope |
| 08:10.33 | streuner | krimx: anyway, sid=unstable... |
| 08:10.44 | EruditeH2rmit | streuner: well I was wondering if there was any known bug that you could help me with. I could spend the next 30mins trying to downgrade stuff. |
| 08:11.01 | darkbahamut | xpilot sounds cool |
| 08:11.12 | darkbahamut | how many people play xpilot? |
| 08:11.19 | sep | darkbahamut, havent played it since hp-ux 8 |
| 08:11.44 | krimx | streuner: I know, but I've read forum posts from people saying they've been running sid for months without any problems at all by updating smart, I don't know how to update smart though. |
| 08:11.48 | darkbahamut | ouch 1 less player |
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| 08:12.54 | sep | krimx, if you dont know. start with running stable. once you got the hang of that. you can upgrade to testing. once you have the hang of upgrading smartly. you can start to sniff on unstable. |
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| 08:13.06 | streuner | krimx: dont listen to them, sid is a bitch, it could happen that the next day works nothing at all... |
| 08:14.01 | streuner | krimx: get some expierence first and use stable/etch with backports (if needed) |
| 08:14.09 | krimx | streuner: Ok thanks, I guess I'll stick with Ubuntu a while and then switch to Lenny. |
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| 08:15.00 | krimx | sep: I ran stable a while but I needed more action :) |
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| 08:15.28 | sep | krimx, then use testing untill you know what updating smart is :) |
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| 08:16.14 | UnixCrewTeam | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.29 | streuner | if you need more action go to iraq, we support here stable/etch ;-) |
| 08:16.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | any idea what the lilo error message "Fatal: Unusual RAID bios device code: 0xFF" tells meÂŋ |
| 08:16.41 | wizardoz | Any one can tell me how to pronounce the word 'debian'? |
| 08:17.09 | tralala | deh-bee-ahn |
| 08:17.18 | UnixCrewTeam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:17.43 | tralala | as in deborah and ian |
| 08:17.50 | tralala | which it stands for |
| 08:17.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | wizardoz: that's what FAQs are for... http://www.fifi.org/doc/debian/FAQ/ch-basic_defs.html |
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| 08:18.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | so, nobody a deeper insight about that lilo error? |
| 08:18.48 | sep | UnixCrewTeam, aptitude install phpbb2 then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
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| 08:20.09 | wizardoz | CutMeOwnThroat:Thank you |
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| 08:21.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | or perhaps a not-so-totally-deep-but-still-interesting insight? |
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| 08:25.31 | iKernel | CutMeOwnThroat, lilo doesn't like your raid card |
| 08:25.58 | appye | anyone know how to simulate (through the command line) an acpi event? I am pretty sure that If I can script a close/lid button event then my power management will work the way I want it to. |
| 08:26.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's supposed to be a software raid |
| 08:26.17 | darkbahamut | hmm i cant find out how to run VisualBoyAdvance |
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| 08:28.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | and as far as I understand, it's supposed to boot off of the software-raid disks, if initrd et al is set up to do so |
| 08:29.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, it's too late and I'm much too tired |
| 08:29.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | thx for the answer |
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| 08:31.07 | amen | i'm running amarok it take 2 gb of ram!!! |
| 08:31.41 | simonrvn | maybe time to change player... |
| 08:32.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | or buy more ram |
| 08:32.22 | amen | hehehhe it's the firs player i use...., i used juk...it's easy and lite |
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| 08:32.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you ask #amarok? |
| 08:33.08 | amen | maybe amarok load many mp3 on memory |
| 08:33.25 | amen | is there a amarok channel? |
| 08:33.27 | simonrvn | no, it just leaks like a sieve |
| 08:33.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 08:33.33 | amen | cool |
| 08:33.46 | amen | i love linux world |
| 08:33.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | some strong opinions on debian over there... but not as strong as the ones on gentoo |
| 08:34.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops, no |
| 08:34.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | that was #xmms |
| 08:34.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm too tired |
| 08:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | night |
| 08:34.27 | amen | heheheh |
| 08:35.20 | iKernel | a |
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| 08:36.40 | harpal | How to make a live cd? |
| 08:36.49 | mrrcp | heh |
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| 08:37.07 | simonrvn | debian-live.alioth.debian.org |
| 08:39.28 | tralala | xingu, I've got it down to 70 wakeups per second and 98-99% c3 states. I guess my hardware cannot go any lower than that given the top reasons for wakeups - Intel 82801CA-ICH3, eth0, i915@pci:0000:00:02.0 |
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| 08:39.52 | sep | amen, maybe your reading the memory usage wrong ? where exactly do you see that amarok uses all that ram ? |
| 08:39.55 | sep | bah ! |
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| 08:40.43 | simonrvn | sep: heh |
| 08:41.10 | sep | here i take precious time away from my paied work, that i need to feed my wife and kids. In order to answer his question, and he can't even have the decency to wait for the answer !%&#"# |
| 08:41.19 | sep | :) |
| 08:41.38 | jelly-home | !comfort sep |
| 08:41.38 | dpkg | There, there, sep. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 08:41.55 | sep | *sniff* thanks |
| 08:43.28 | CalJohn | mplayer segfaults on every operation. I'm using debian-multimedia. Do I go here for support? |
| 08:44.15 | dacs | anyone know of a good regex tutorial please |
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| 08:44.31 | CalJohn | dacs: O'Reilly do a good book. |
| 08:44.40 | tralala | CalJohn, did it ever work? Are you running stable? |
| 08:44.49 | dacs | CalJohn: thanks |
| 08:44.53 | CalJohn | tralala: it has worked before, I am running lenny |
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| 08:45.32 | tralala | CalJohn, judging by the number of the problem reports in the last few days, lenny seems to be badly broken |
| 08:45.42 | dacs | CalJohn: do you have a link please |
| 08:46.05 | tralala | the suspected reason is udev/hal |
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| 08:46.41 | CalJohn | tralala: I see. Xine works for the moment I suppose, but it's rather annoying as I had mplayer pretty well setup. |
| 08:47.30 | amen | i restart the system, now use 200 Mb...cool!works so fine! |
| 08:47.57 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 08:49.46 | CalJohn | tralala: don't suppose any guess at when this is going to work again? |
| 08:52.01 | tralala | nope |
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| 08:54.01 | sep | amen, where do you see this memory usage ? |
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| 08:56.30 | amen | sep: when i put all collection of mp3 in amarok, now next reboot takes 500 Mb all the system |
| 08:56.35 | amen | 0 swap |
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| 08:56.43 | Nyle | http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A59197-2002Nov2¬Found=true |
| 08:57.04 | sep | amen, WHERE/HOW do you see this memory usage ? |
| 08:57.33 | amen | process table kde |
| 08:57.48 | amen | wrong? |
| 08:58.02 | sep | never hear of it. does it show things like cache and buffers ? |
| 08:58.22 | amen | sure |
| 08:58.37 | sep | free ram= free+buffers+cache |
| 08:58.49 | sep | so if you look at free ram alone you'll be wildly inacurate |
| 08:59.09 | amen | uhmmm |
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| 09:00.32 | Nyle | that link is the start of good news |
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| 09:02.15 | amen | sep:so how i can be sure my checks? |
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| 09:03.31 | sep | Nyle, so very true. the linex.org distro used there. is in the proces of merging with debian edu. you can follow the action here -> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/LinEx2DebianEdu-Roadmap |
| 09:03.53 | sep | amen, you take free+buffers+cache, then you know how much ram you have left to use for apps. |
| 09:03.58 | sep | it's simple math.. |
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| 09:05.32 | amen | i have 9 sensor now |
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| 09:06.09 | amen | i can see used, app, swap, free, buff, cached, nad the total of them....works fine |
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| 09:07.28 | amen | i hope :-p |
| 09:09.41 | amen | i never write swap memory that's good, i want see what will do when it write swap |
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| 09:17.25 | Jemt | Greetz. Can someone tell me why locales are called ie en_DK ? I get as much as it's english language support - but why the _DK part ? |
| 09:17.52 | jelly-home | Jemt: different coutries have different locales. |
| 09:18.06 | Jemt | jelly: Why ? |
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| 09:18.30 | Jemt | How does en_DK differ from ie. en_DE ? |
| 09:18.38 | Jemt | Keyboard layout ? |
| 09:19.03 | jelly-home | Jemt: different date, number spelling rules, currency, ... |
| 09:19.09 | Jemt | Or does it contain information about timezone, location (used when browsing the web in order to determine what language Google should be displayed in) ? |
| 09:19.15 | Jemt | jelly: Ah, okay |
| 09:19.45 | Jemt | Does it make sense to select both da_DK-iso8859-1, da_DK-iso8859-15 and UTF-8 ? |
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| 09:20.34 | Jemt | I want a very generic and flexible setup that can open all sorts of documents - bot ISO8859-1(5) and UTF-8 - does that have anything to do with locales ? |
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| 09:24.42 | jelly-home | Jemt: for some apps it might. AFAIK the settings are mostly used to help with correct representation of documenta |
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| 09:26.24 | Jemt | Okay. Does one locale take up a lot of space? I'm installing on a partition with very limited space (2 GB), and I have to squeeze a complete desktop setup into it; Gnome, OpenOffice, Internet Tools etc. Will it save more than 20 MB if I deselect one or two of the three locales ? |
| 09:27.11 | Jemt | I'm running locale-purge btw - so I'm removing unused locales |
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| 09:35.51 | wols_ | Jemt: what's taking more space is the source files in various languages |
| 09:35.57 | wols_ | go to /usr/share/locale/ |
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| 09:36.23 | wols_ | e.g. I have 1750 zh_CN messages |
| 09:36.27 | Jemt | wols_: Wow, quice a few packages |
| 09:36.38 | Jemt | quite* |
| 09:36.55 | Jemt | 300 MB ?? |
| 09:37.26 | Jemt | Can I remove all of them except the 'da' package if I want danish support ? |
| 09:38.16 | wols_ | you can, but: anytime yu update they come back |
| 09:38.59 | wols_ | e.g. apt comes with 32 languages, and they are all in apt.deb |
| 09:39.02 | Jemt | Oh, okay. What if I just perform regular installs ? |
| 09:39.48 | Jemt | So I have to clean up the locale directory after any install really ? |
| 09:39.59 | Jemt | .deb install anyways |
| 09:40.09 | wols_ | yes |
| 09:40.49 | Jemt | Okay. I guess a shell script could do that on every start up. Is there some way to make APT-Get run a program each time it performs an installation ? |
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| 09:42.26 | onyma | would the package "localepurge" help? |
| 09:43.02 | onyma | o, sorry, that's what you were running ... but why wouldn't that package keep the unnecessary packages away? |
| 09:43.04 | Jemt | onyma: No, it dosn't seem to remove files from /usr/share/locale |
| 09:45.42 | Jemt | I'm actually unsure what files localepurge removes. Do you know that, wols_ ? |
| 09:45.56 | Jemt | "This is just a simple script to recover diskspace wasted for unneeded |
| 09:45.56 | Jemt | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.56 | Jemt | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.26 | Jemt | Would have been nice with some locations |
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| 09:51.37 | onyma | jemt, what if you just avoided installing packages that put files in /usr/share/locale |
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| 09:52.03 | Jemt | onyma: Not an option - all programs probably does that |
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| 09:54.09 | Jemt | Where are unsuccessful login attempts registered ? |
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| 09:54.41 | vetri | which package is used for monitoring all the process... |
| 09:54.47 | onyma | what if you make it into a symlink to /dev/null or something ... |
| 09:55.01 | Jemt | Ah, localpurge DOES in fact remove files from /usr/share/locale - goodie |
| 09:55.20 | Jemt | vetri: I like 'htop |
| 09:55.24 | Jemt | 'htop' |
| 09:55.29 | neotic | htop <3 |
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| 09:56.00 | Jemt | :) |
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| 09:58.33 | vetri | jemt, will it create log file? |
| 09:59.08 | Jemt | htop ? Don't think so - try reading the man page though |
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| 09:59.28 | Jemt | What log files do you expect it to create ? |
| 09:59.39 | Jemt | Usually programs create their log files them self |
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| 10:04.53 | vetri | its showing only current process... i want history ... |
| 10:05.59 | petemc | sounds like you want something like sar |
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| 10:27.53 | reiseesel | hi there.. |
| 10:29.16 | reiseesel | i have a little problem, i just switched to debian and want to continue using xmonad as wm. unfortunately there seems to be no xmonad package in the stable release, i suppose it might cause trouble to use the unstable package, does it? |
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| 10:34.31 | cast | !tell reiseesel about simple sid backport |
| 10:34.48 | reiseesel | =) |
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| 10:40.57 | puchu | hi |
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| 10:41.04 | puchu | how do i set the timezone? |
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| 10:42.17 | puchu | in which package is base-config included? |
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| 10:42.35 | Cobra| | puchu: set /etc/timezone to the file you want at /usr/share/zoneinfo |
| 10:42.52 | reiseesel | if i add the unstable source to my sources.list is there a way to make sure apt only chooses unstable packages on request ? |
| 10:44.09 | puchu | Cobra| ln -s it? |
| 10:44.26 | Cobra| | with a text editor |
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| 10:45.32 | puchu | Cobra| i did it but it seems my time is still utc after an reboot |
| 10:46.18 | puchu | UTC=no |
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| 10:49.18 | justinpr | reiseesel: http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Apt-Pinning_on_Debian |
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| 10:52.00 | gonzoman | Hi, is there a command to check what files are being written? |
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| 10:53.45 | petemc | gonzoman: not exactly, but "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump" will give you lots of info in /var/log/debug |
| 10:53.55 | cast | something based on inotify i wonder? |
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| 10:56.06 | gonzoman | thx I'll try |
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| 10:56.45 | gonzoman | I'm setting up a local mirror, switching from apt-mirror to rsync method as it needs to be a 100% mirror (unable to achieve with apt-mirror) |
| 10:57.08 | gonzoman | and basicly I want to check what it is currently doing |
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| 10:58.06 | reiseesel | the backport thing doesnt work to good, the build-dependencies cannot be satisfied because there is no satisfying version of the ghc6 package =( |
| 10:58.36 | wols_ | then you need to build ghc6 too |
| 10:58.43 | cast | can you build it from source? |
| 10:59.06 | reiseesel | well i have ghc6 but it wants 6.6.1 |
| 10:59.35 | reiseesel | besides it requests a package that i cant find at all |
| 10:59.51 | gonzoman | is there a command that lists files or dirs in order of 'creation' or 'modified' times? |
| 11:00.04 | reiseesel | libghc6-x11-extras-dev |
| 11:00.09 | gonzoman | system wide that is |
| 11:00.42 | reiseesel | i fear that i go on backporting the ghc package that will call for another backport |
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| 11:00.49 | AVRS | hi |
| 11:01.05 | AVRS | Is Chris Evans' name pronounced "Ee-vans" or "Eh-vans"? |
| 11:01.39 | cast | see if you can build the original n |
| 11:01.41 | Ronin | depends on how he wants it to be pronounced i guess AVRS |
| 11:01.47 | cast | uh, that wasn't the down key :\ |
| 11:02.06 | AVRS | Ronin: sigh, as usual:) |
| 11:02.27 | Ronin | its like how do you pronounce tomato |
| 11:02.47 | gonzoman | :) |
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| 11:05.57 | tralala | My laptop doesn't enter the C3 state at all when idling. Are there any settings to play with or I just have to wait for a new kernel? |
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| 11:07.43 | adrakoa | buenas |
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| 11:09.13 | ma3x | how can I change from " to cm in openoffice? |
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| 11:11.50 | cast | multiply by a 2.54 in calc? |
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| 11:12.21 | biz | hi, using xkb, is there a way to let AltGr print a symbol for itself when its pressed alone, but still act as a modifier when used in combination? i've described it here: http://rafb.net/p/x6WZ9Q75.html, any ideas? |
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| 11:13.31 | m4rz | hi, how i can compress a dir with subdirs but withoud a dir named exclude |
| 11:13.32 | m4rz | ? |
| 11:13.58 | fengor | man tar |
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| 11:15.26 | m4rz | i read but i don't find nothing |
| 11:15.27 | m4rz | about this |
| 11:16.06 | fengor | search for exclude |
| 11:16.22 | Maulkin | biz: I get: |
| 11:16.23 | Maulkin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.28 | Maulkin | So probably, yes |
| 11:16.32 | m4rz | ah ok thanks |
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| 11:19.56 | biz | Maulkin: I think i need a SIX_LEVEL for this |
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| 11:21.18 | biz | Maulkin: i can map a character to the modifier key, thats no problem. but then, it wont act as a modifier anymore. so I could use a two level on the modifier key and press AltGr to get the symbol, press AltGr+Shift and have the modifier again but thats not what I want |
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| 11:21.30 | Rajec | Could anybody of you reccomend me some book about databases in general? I know basics and simple things about databases |
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| 11:21.46 | Maulkin | Rajec: how complicated do you want it? |
| 11:21.53 | Maulkin | biz: ahh, I see. No idea I'm afraid. |
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| 11:23.24 | Rajec | Maulkin as I said I know basics and I want to be good |
| 11:23.33 | Maulkin | Rajec: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/databaseid/ is good, but it's by Date, who's... interesting. It's quite complex. |
| 11:24.13 | Maulkin | If you're just after an overview, try wikipedia |
| 11:24.43 | sakrhass | I've downloaded oroborus I copied the oroborusrc to my home directory, but Gnome doesn't list it in the session |
| 11:24.52 | Rajec | Maulkin I am looking for someone who has experience with some book |
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| 11:25.34 | Maulkin | Rajec: Well, I have experience with the one I linked. |
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| 11:27.00 | Rajec | Maulkin ou sorry |
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| 11:34.40 | liable | dammit, someone asked about 3g and made me decide to try mine now i have a sim card for 3g. i want to kill that person |
| 11:35.44 | Mark17 | hello, i need to replace a server |
| 11:35.44 | petemc | my experience with 3g has been less than stellar |
| 11:35.59 | Mark17 | what is the fastest way to copy all files and configurations to a new server |
| 11:36.00 | SlayerXP | Mark17: okay, you have our permission to do so. |
| 11:36.13 | Mark17 | both are running debian |
| 11:37.09 | Mark17 | the servers are connected through a 100mbit connection with each other |
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| 11:37.26 | petemc | i use rsync for pretty much everything |
| 11:38.09 | Mark17 | petemc: can that also copy all config files from running programs to the new server (for example openssh) |
| 11:38.10 | Maulkin | Though technically, the fastest way is to start swapping disks around. |
| 11:38.33 | Mark17 | Maulkin: the harddisc will also be replaced |
| 11:38.41 | liable | petemc: i dont want to use it, i just want to get it to work :) |
| 11:38.52 | Mark17 | the old system is 3 years old and i dont trust the harddisc anymore ;) |
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| 11:39.16 | Maulkin | Mark17: take old hard disk. Put in new server. Copy files from old hard disk to new hard disk |
| 11:39.40 | petemc | liable: oh, works fine here, i had a usb thing that worked fine with linux, and i use a nokia with my mac.. |
| 11:39.41 | Maulkin | Profit??! |
| 11:40.00 | Mark17 | Maulkin: isnt there an option to move the files with rsync (so the / partition)? |
| 11:40.13 | Maulkin | Mark17: rsync should do it |
| 11:40.18 | liable | petemc: i cant get the card to work (built in sierra) but it seems to baulk on the atd command |
| 11:40.18 | petemc | aye, mine was vodaphone too |
| 11:40.29 | petemc | the name sounds hawaiian |
| 11:40.53 | jelly | vodafone? |
| 11:40.53 | Maulkin | liable: I can try and dig out my dial script if you want |
| 11:41.01 | Maulkin | Yup. Mobile operator. |
| 11:41.10 | Maulkin | (over here in the UK :P) |
| 11:41.35 | liable | Maulkin: sure, worth a look at, ta |
| 11:41.39 | jelly | no, I was wondering about what sounded hawaiian |
| 11:41.46 | Maulkin | Ahh, :) |
| 11:42.56 | Maulkin | liable: wvdial conf at http://www.pastebin.ca/793552 |
| 11:42.57 | Mark17 | Maulkin: and how can i make it so that it will reboot after that with all data on the new harddrive without any problem? |
| 11:42.58 | petemc | jelly: ah, the device is called huawei |
| 11:42.58 | liable | mine was sold with a vodaphone sim, but apparently it works on the other telco here |
| 11:43.03 | liable | Maulkin: danke |
| 11:43.06 | biz | Maulkin: are you into xkb? I just thought about it and will focus on just the AltGr key now. Only 3 Levels are needed for it: none, shifted, in_combination_with_anything_else. so level one and two act like any other alphanumeric while level three acts as a ISO_Level3_Shift |
| 11:43.23 | jelly | petemc: chinese networking company |
| 11:43.30 | petemc | right |
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| 11:44.16 | jelly | petemc: good to know. I was considering buying a cheap huawei 3g usb thing to replace the cardbus thing ;-) |
| 11:44.16 | Maulkin | Aye. IIRC, voda contract stuff is unlocked. |
| 11:44.40 | Maulkin | The white USB dongle things apparently work fine too |
| 11:44.46 | petemc | they do |
| 11:45.23 | liable | bugger, nothing new there |
| 11:45.37 | petemc | i noticed some funny compression of images when using vodafones 3g |
| 11:45.39 | jelly | mine takes a pcmcia slot, and make it impossible to use the expresscard slot above it |
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| 11:45.51 | petemc | tho, it fell back to gprs more often than i got 3g |
| 11:46.03 | liable | i get resending atz then modem unresponsive |
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| 11:46.41 | jelly | still it's very nice to have ssh on the road. |
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| 11:46.58 | petemc | tis |
| 11:47.00 | jelly | be it gprs,umts,edge,hsdpa or whatever |
| 11:47.12 | Maulkin | jelly: are you connecting to the right device? There should be two or three appear. |
| 11:47.20 | liable | ya, i got putty for my s60, it sucks, but i guess it will come in handy one day :) |
| 11:47.49 | jelly | liable: that's nothing, I had an ssh midlet on my last s40 ;-) |
| 11:48.09 | jelly | liable: 65x33 characters on a 208x208 pixel screen |
| 11:48.10 | Maulkin | 800x480 resolution FTW. |
| 11:48.37 | petemc | ima gonna get me one of those asus eee things |
| 11:48.58 | Maulkin | Get a nokia 810. |
| 11:49.01 | Maulkin | They look ace :) |
| 11:49.11 | Maulkin | (plus run debian... :P) |
| 11:49.21 | petemc | hadnt looked at them |
| 11:49.49 | petemc | after using the n95 for a while, i was considering not using nokia gear again |
| 11:49.58 | jelly | Maulkin: and cost a pretty penny? |
| 11:50.18 | Maulkin | jelly: Well, teh 770 was 80GBP. |
| 11:50.26 | petemc | lots of people got them free too |
| 11:50.38 | jelly | Maulkin: that's very nice. unlocked? |
| 11:50.47 | Maulkin | jelly: It's not a phone :P |
| 11:51.17 | Maulkin | http://europe.nokia.com/A4145104 |
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| 11:51.36 | jelly | Maulkin: it doesn't have to be a phone, only to take a SIM card and have data capabilities ;-) |
| 11:51.42 | liable | i wanted a n90 till i found out it wasnt a phone |
| 11:51.53 | Maulkin | jelly: Doesn't take a sim card :P |
| 11:52.04 | Maulkin | EREALLYNOTAPHONE |
| 11:52.06 | jelly | oh, sucks then |
| 11:52.16 | Maulkin | Nah, it rocks. |
| 11:52.16 | Tidus | mine doesn't have a sim card either |
| 11:52.36 | jelly | Maulkin: can you plug usb things (that are a phone) into it? |
| 11:52.39 | Maulkin | Has bluetooth and wifi built in though, so it's no problem. |
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| 11:52.45 | Maulkin | Err... not sure about USB. |
| 11:53.00 | jelly | BT would be nice if I had a BT phone |
| 11:53.01 | liable | till you want to ring someone ;) |
| 11:53.12 | Maulkin | Or try and do anythign with them. |
| 11:54.01 | Maulkin | http://www.pastebin.ca/793568 <-- BT fun |
| 11:54.50 | jelly | not feckin british telecom :-) |
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| 11:55.14 | Maulkin | Who then? :) |
| 11:55.20 | jelly | bluetooth |
| 11:55.20 | Maulkin | Budgetone? |
| 11:55.24 | Maulkin | Ahh, oh. |
| 11:55.30 | Tidus | did i mention i'm in the us, carrying around a hacked phone that my carrier never carried? |
| 11:56.02 | jelly | Tidus: your sentence carries a lot or "carrie"s |
| 11:56.16 | Tidus | lol |
| 11:56.18 | Maulkin | Say that ten times quickly |
| 11:56.22 | Tidus | yeah, i noticed that too |
| 11:56.27 | jelly | that ten times quickly |
| 11:56.34 | Maulkin | badum-tish |
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| 11:57.06 | Haris | Hello guys |
| 11:57.17 | Maulkin | Oh, yeah, something-mumble-stay-on-topic-please-mumble :) |
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| 11:57.24 | liable | lemme guess, you'll be here all night? ;) |
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| 11:57.30 | Haris | I told it to -> aptitude upgrade bash apt and its upgrading |
| 11:57.31 | Haris | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 11:57.31 | Haris | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.31 | Haris | 5 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 59 not upgraded. |
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| 11:57.36 | Haris | woops |
| 11:57.46 | Haris | wth is this |
| 11:57.46 | jelly | !pastebin |
| 11:57.47 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 11:58.03 | Haris | jelly: thankyou, I was pointing to the upgrade Q |
| 11:58.16 | Haris | why did it keep back the packages I told it to upgrade |
| 11:58.30 | Maulkin | Haris: man aptitude. |
| 11:58.34 | Haris | and upgrade other totally unrelated packages |
| 11:58.34 | jelly | Haris: on command line, you either "aptitude install foo bar" to upgrade only those two, or you "aptitude upgrade" to do a safe uprgade |
| 11:58.37 | Maulkin | Haris: upgrade doesn't work like you think it does. |
| 11:58.50 | Haris | ah, I see |
| 11:58.58 | Haris | shEEP |
| 11:59.05 | liable | baa |
| 11:59.05 | Maulkin | baa |
| 11:59.15 | jelly | Ihave no idea why does it even accept your cmdline |
| 11:59.22 | jelly | !moo |
| 11:59.22 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 11:59.30 | Haris | I have => ii php4-cgi 4.4.4-8+etch4 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary) <= installed |
| 11:59.41 | Haris | yet, apache2 somehow is not executing cgi code |
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| 12:00.29 | mvejen | Harris: I think you might have to configure Apache to load the php module |
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| 12:01.12 | liable | a2enmod |
| 12:01.14 | Maulkin | Haris: have you restarted apache? |
| 12:01.18 | jelly | Haris: is the cgi module enabled? Are your cgi scripts named appropriately? |
| 12:01.27 | Haris | Maulkin: yep, checking if its enabled |
| 12:02.03 | infernix | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.6 root=/dev/sda1 ro console=ttyS1,57600 console=tty0 |
| 12:02.31 | anomaly | got a diskless setup through a flash drive. anyway to get apt-get to install to a nfs dir? |
| 12:02.39 | Haris | I have; mod_cgi installed |
| 12:02.39 | infernix | one would expect to get console output over VGA and COM2 when using that line in grub, right? |
| 12:02.45 | Haris | but no load script against it |
| 12:02.51 | Haris | in mods-available |
| 12:03.09 | jelly | infernix: one would. |
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| 12:03.22 | Tidus | Maulkin, i know this is OT, but to finish my statement from earlier... my carrier, Alltel Wireless, never carried the cdma version of the MOTOSLVR ... so i found a carrier that did, bought a phone without service, and figured out that the cdma MOTOKRZR firmware will run my phone... so you can kinda guess where that went. |
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| 12:03.48 | infernix | odd. i think i'll have to look at the kernel config |
| 12:03.54 | PiousMinion | Anyone know what file I would edit to have a program load when gdm loads(before login)? |
| 12:04.01 | jelly | infernix: is your ttyS1 a real device? |
| 12:04.10 | jelly | I mean, a real serial port? |
| 12:04.19 | petemc | its common enough to change firmware on phones, companies regularly disable features on branded phones |
| 12:04.29 | Haris | I hate that |
| 12:04.38 | Tidus | petemc, it's different unlocking a CDMA phone than it is a GSM phone |
| 12:04.40 | Haris | old version of the phone has a feature and newer version doesn't |
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| 12:04.47 | Maulkin | Though --> #moocows |
| 12:04.51 | petemc | Tidus: ill have to take your word for that |
| 12:05.01 | jelly | Maulkin: or at least #d-o |
| 12:05.06 | infernix | jelly: no, its a DRAC5. thing is, it works fine with a oracle ES linux kernel, but not with my own kernel. and since its so utterly basic, i am confused why it wouldn't work; serial console support is built into the kernel fo'sho. |
| 12:05.08 | Maulkin | yeah |
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| 12:05.18 | ktwilight | so can anyone recommend a torrent app other than rtorrent for debian etch? |
| 12:05.23 | Maulkin | Meh, #moocows isn't this network. |
| 12:05.31 | Maulkin | ktwilight: apt-cache search bittorrent |
| 12:05.38 | jelly | infernix: I wonder about the irqs and ioports and such |
| 12:05.48 | ktwilight | Maulkin, right, that ain't really helping in a way |
| 12:05.55 | mvejen | Harris: Create cgi.load in mods.enabled and put in this line LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_cgi.so |
| 12:05.57 | infernix | it works once its booted. i mean, getty on ttyS1 in inittab works fine |
| 12:06.01 | infernix | just no kernel console log. |
| 12:06.09 | Maulkin | ktwilight: btdownloadheadless? |
| 12:06.25 | Maulkin | ktwilight: if you want more info, you need to be more specific. |
| 12:06.25 | ktwilight | m |
| 12:06.26 | infernix | its just weird. maybe a bug in 2.6.22.6 |
| 12:06.54 | ktwilight | Maulkin, well, i just need to know which torrent apps are good to use at the moment. i've got a gut feeling that my torrents aren't running as well 'cuz rtorrent is buggy at some point |
| 12:07.04 | Maulkin | ie: Console based? GUI? What language you want it written in? Do you want it integrated with your desktop client? |
| 12:07.10 | Haris | My T-mobile MDA verio II doesn't automatically download MMS, which is a pain |
| 12:07.18 | liable | ooh, i got some action going on |
| 12:07.20 | jelly | infernix: hm. Oracle ES ~ RHEL ~ Centos kernel? |
| 12:07.41 | sarefo | hi, i upgraded to lenny and now my apache is broken. i wondered if i could overwrite my configs with the default, but dpkg-reconfigure apache2 gives me only a blank line output, and nothing changes. |
| 12:08.10 | sarefo | is there another way to let apache2 write its default config to my machine? |
| 12:08.11 | jelly | infernix: I don't have a Dell nearby. Virtual serial ports on HP servers seem to work, though ;-) |
| 12:08.25 | sarefo | using apt, that is |
| 12:08.26 | infernix | jelly: yeah. two oracle boxes there, rest is all etch with custom built kernel. redhat kernels are fine. anyway its probably a kernel bug or misconfiguration |
| 12:08.35 | Tidus | sarefo, dpkg-reconfigure -phigh apache2 |
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| 12:08.46 | liable | hrm, no ppp0 though |
| 12:09.25 | sarefo | Tidus: does nothing too |
| 12:09.32 | Tidus | hm... |
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| 12:09.37 | jelly | infernix: there's a serious possibilty that RH made tweaks to the default 8250 (serial module) params to make unusually set up ports work ootb |
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| 12:10.02 | Tidus | jelly, wouldn't surprise me one bit if RH did that... |
| 12:10.14 | K0brik | how do I check my binaries against the repository? |
| 12:10.15 | infernix | jelly: maybe it (e.g. the DRAC) just needs extended serial port support. |
| 12:10.35 | jelly | infernix: I wonder if something like 8250.share_irqs=1, or some other 8250.* parameter would help |
| 12:10.58 | jelly | nr_uarts |
| 12:10.59 | infernix | yeah but uhm, if it works when we land in userspace, why not at bootup |
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| 12:11.10 | jelly | setserial? |
| 12:11.12 | jelly | no idea. |
| 12:11.18 | sarefo | Tidus: would apt-get remove, then again install be a good idea? |
| 12:11.20 | infernix | maybe :) |
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| 12:11.59 | K0brik | i have some servers running with other libs saying corrupt binaries |
| 12:11.59 | jelly | nr_uarts shouldn't be it if it's supposed to look like COM2 |
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| 12:12.43 | A-L-A-R-M | where can i find a good guide of how to remove dependencies with apt-get ? |
| 12:12.57 | A-L-A-R-M | most of the sites i found where just comparing aptitute and apt-get |
| 12:13.17 | K0brik | man dpkg A-L-A-R-M ? |
| 12:13.22 | Tidus | sarefo, probably |
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| 12:13.24 | wols_ | what do you mean remove dependencies with apt-get? |
| 12:13.27 | indraveni | hi all |
| 12:13.39 | Tidus | sarefo, just make sure you remove all the config files after you remove it |
| 12:13.47 | indraveni | i have a sony vaio laptop with a Touchstrip finger sensor |
| 12:13.51 | A-L-A-R-M | for example if i install an application ,it sometimes installas also some libraries or other things that are needed |
| 12:13.56 | indraveni | but i am not able to make it work |
| 12:14.02 | indraveni | i think the srivers are missing |
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| 12:14.08 | A-L-A-R-M | so when this application is removed the extra packages are being staying unused in my system |
| 12:14.10 | wols_ | alkalineX: only possible with aptitude. apt-get can do it in sid only |
| 12:14.14 | wols_ | apt-get auto-remove |
| 12:14.22 | indraveni | could some one help me in getting the drivers for my finger sensor |
| 12:14.39 | K0brik | i had to compile mine manually indraveni |
| 12:14.39 | jelly | infernix: in related news, I just found out the other day that RHEL kills off serial console on doing "init 1"... had to physically visit the machine console. ;-) |
| 12:14.48 | wols_ | indraveni: do you know it even exists? |
| 12:14.55 | infernix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:15.20 | indraveni | wols_, i am doing the google search but no solution yet |
| 12:15.22 | jelly | !gentoosmite infernix |
| 12:15.36 | wols_ | indraveni: how is it attached? usb? pci? |
| 12:15.45 | ma3x | can anyone help me with openoffice writer? I'm trying to rotate the text, but it doesn't leave blank spaces after I hit enter, it all goes in one line |
| 12:15.49 | infernix | jelly: hey i aint touching oracle ES servers. I just install em :) |
| 12:16.00 | A-L-A-R-M | well it removes some stuff but not everything. one more question. when doign a purge what does the "*" symbolise next to the package name |
| 12:16.02 | indraveni | wols_, usb |
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| 12:16.12 | infernix | jelly: but physically visit? ipmi? drac? ;) |
| 12:16.43 | jelly | infernix: it was an el cheapo supermicro, the serial console was my best bet |
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| 12:17.11 | K0brik | how do I list the MD5 hashes from the repository? |
| 12:17.52 | K0brik | (on individual files) |
| 12:18.00 | wols_ | indraveni: check its USB ID and google for that |
| 12:18.10 | wols_ | !tell K0brik about debsums |
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| 12:18.39 | K0brik | debsums is only for the whole package wols_ ? |
| 12:19.28 | liable | bastards keep hangin up on me |
| 12:19.59 | wols_ | K0brik: it checks files from packages, not packages |
| 12:20.10 | infernix | jelly: el cheapo supermicros have IPMI support usually. costs $60 for an ipmi SOL or $80 for ipmi KVM |
| 12:20.22 | indraveni | wols_, i am doing that , but still i dint any solution yet, from past 2 hrs |
| 12:20.55 | jelly | infernix: hm, now I'll have to figure out how to check for ipmi. ;-) |
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| 12:21.18 | jelly | SOL? |
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| 12:21.37 | liable | hrm, timeout sending config requests |
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| 12:22.06 | K0brik | thats wols_ |
| 12:22.08 | K0brik | thanks |
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| 12:23.52 | K0brik | is this a sub-range of the channel? |
| 12:24.00 | anomaly | would symlinks be the right tool for making files copied to /foo redirect to /foo2? |
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| 12:26.04 | Mark17 | when i try to use uptime or top I get an error: error while loading shared libraries: libproc.so.3.2.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:26.08 | Mark17 | how can i fix that? |
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| 12:27.15 | jelly | Mark17: which debian release? |
| 12:27.34 | jelly | Mark17: dpkg -l libc6 procps | tail -2 |
| 12:27.35 | K0brik | anyways. thanks for the debsums! |
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| 12:27.56 | Mark17 | jelly: 4.0 |
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| 12:28.57 | Mark17 | libc6: 2.6.1-1+b1 procps: 3.2.7-4.1 |
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| 12:29.52 | jelly | that's not the output of dpkg, but at least it looks like Debian. |
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| 12:30.47 | wols_ | Mark17: install procps |
| 12:30.49 | Mark17 | http://pastebin.ca/793597 << that is the output, but i cannot copy it to an irc channel |
| 12:31.15 | Mark17 | apt-get install procps: procps is allready the newest version |
| 12:31.35 | jelly | Mark17: that's not the output "dpkg -l libc6 procps | tail -2" either |
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| 12:31.40 | tralala | Mark17, you kind of missed some arguments |
| 12:32.11 | Mark17 | jelly: that is the output i get |
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| 12:32.29 | tralala | Mark17, that's the output of the wrong command |
| 12:32.35 | Mark17 | -l = small L and not the capital i |
| 12:32.36 | jelly | Mark17: not the command you were asked ;-) |
| 12:32.53 | Mark17 | see the pastebin for the command asked |
| 12:33.01 | Mark17 | ah i see |
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| 12:33.54 | Mark17 | http://pastebin.ca/793598 << better? |
| 12:33.58 | jelly | Mark17: what does which top say? /usr/bin/top or something else? |
| 12:34.55 | Mark17 | /usr/bin/top and top give the same error |
| 12:34.56 | wols_ | Mark17: use dpkg to install it or reinstall |
| 12:34.56 | tralala | Mark17, this clearly isn't debian 4.0 |
| 12:34.59 | jelly | Mark17: your machine is not an etch installation. |
| 12:35.15 | Mark17 | it should be :S |
| 12:35.24 | tralala | spank your sysadmin |
| 12:35.30 | jelly | kinky |
| 12:35.43 | wols_ | and check you have /lib/libproc* afterwards |
| 12:36.00 | Mark17 | how can i upgrade it to 4.0? |
| 12:36.09 | wols_ | Mark17: it's lenny. you cannot downgrade |
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| 12:36.22 | jelly | Mark17: you already have packages from the newer testing installed. :-| |
| 12:36.23 | wols_ | could be unstable too. cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:36.53 | Mark17 | wols_: 4.0 |
| 12:36.59 | jelly | could be a newbie sysadmin just installed 1-2 packages from testing, while keeping the rest at stable ;-) |
| 12:37.17 | Jemt | Greetz. I want to make sure that my Debian installation is capable of handling most printers around the offices and institutions I go. What packages should I install in order to get really good printer support ? Does these packages seem right? : http://powerzone.dk/printer-packages.txt |
| 12:37.35 | Jemt | Should some of them be excluded ? |
| 12:37.44 | Jemt | Or am I missing packages ? |
| 12:37.55 | Mark17 | so yes it is 4.0 for so far i can see, some packages can be from testing |
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| 12:40.22 | Mark17 | /lib/libproc-3.2.7.so exists |
| 12:41.01 | wols_ | Mark17: go to /var/log. grep all your dpkg*.log* files (use zgrep) for libc6 packages and see what else you/your sysamin got from testing |
| 12:42.34 | liable | getting desperate, reorting to minicom |
| 12:43.07 | tralala | liable, what are you doing? |
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| 12:43.45 | liable | tralala: trying to get this silly hspda card working |
| 12:43.54 | tralala | 3g? |
| 12:44.24 | liable | ya |
| 12:44.44 | tralala | does it respond to at commands/ |
| 12:44.49 | liable | yep |
| 12:44.50 | infernix | jelly: SOL is serial over lan. cheaper than KVM and works with ssh instead of java in a browser |
| 12:45.17 | infernix | jelly: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/index.cfm > addon cards |
| 12:45.25 | liable | tralala: i am sure its my providor details thats wrong, but i cant find much info on it |
| 12:45.31 | tralala | liable, these cards need an at command to set up the so called "AP". Using it? |
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| 12:46.02 | liable | tralala: ya its in the init2 string |
| 12:46.10 | jelly | infernix: ah, we already have a 48 port cyclades |
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| 12:46.47 | tralala | liable, hmm... can you connect "manually" with minicom? |
| 12:46.55 | Jemt | Does the 'foomatic-db' package family contain CUPS drivers or is it an application used to download and install drivers from linuxprinting.org ? |
| 12:47.11 | liable | tralala: not yet |
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| 12:50.56 | infernix | jelly: works too, but you must be in cable hell then :p |
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| 12:53.00 | gerzilla | hey. when im using mail -s "fdfd" myemail@fdfd.com ... its not working, its writes me : Mailing to remote domains not supported |
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| 12:54.06 | petemc | gerzilla: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 12:55.00 | gerzilla | command not found |
| 12:55.03 | gerzilla | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 12:55.09 | petemc | as root |
| 12:55.42 | gerzilla | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 12:55.43 | gerzilla | :P |
| 12:56.13 | gerzilla | ... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 12:56.34 | petemc | you dont think you could have a guess at what you need to do? |
| 12:57.01 | gerzilla | i need to reinstall it |
| 12:57.17 | gerzilla | no? |
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| 13:02.37 | aempi | hi there, i got some problems installing java 6 on debian etch. i had to modify the sun-java6-bin package because i am installing it on a vserver. now i installed "bin","jre" and "jdk" with "dpkg -i" when i try to run "man java" or "java -version" nothing is found, what could i have forgotten? a previous installation of sun java5 with a similar modification worked fine. |
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| 13:08.54 | ma3x | why the fuck is iceweasel so stupid? when i go print preview it doesnt display all pages |
| 13:08.56 | jelly | infernix: you don't want to know. ;-) |
| 13:09.00 | Jemt | Are most InkJet printers supporting PostScript these days ? |
| 13:09.37 | Jemt | ma3x: It displays all pages here |
| 13:09.45 | infernix | jelly: i been there. 48 servers though. |
| 13:09.54 | infernix | never again. ipmi 4 life baby |
| 13:10.06 | ma3x | Jemt, it displays it out of borders and not all pages |
| 13:10.16 | Salihu | Jemt: No... |
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| 13:10.50 | jelly | infernix: well, just the cheap stuff that we're waiting for them die off anyway. Most of the machines are HPs with decent LOM. |
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| 13:12.23 | jelly | infernix: those have remote power, console, virtual floppy & cdrom from iso images. <3 |
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| 13:13.01 | infernix | yeah, same as IPMI on supermicro. except that i havent been able to boot from virtual cdrom yet. dells DRAC5 does that fine but it needs ActiveX components >.< |
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| 13:14.04 | infernix | the nice thing with ipmi is that its commandline. integrates real well with heartbeat for clusters, no obscure binaries needed |
| 13:14.24 | infernix | drac5 is ssh capable so that works too |
| 13:14.30 | infernix | but i bet the HPs work with ipmitool as well? |
| 13:14.30 | jelly | infernix: $80 for an IPMI KVM card is cheaper than $120 for HP advanced iLO license, though |
| 13:14.38 | petemc | the thing thats not nice is that sometimes ipmi has bugs that can be really hard to track down |
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| 13:14.54 | infernix | petemc: care to elaborate? |
| 13:14.59 | jelly | infernix: never tried. They have ssh and java applet access. |
| 13:15.01 | infernix | i havent had any issues yet |
| 13:15.19 | infernix | jelly: ssh and then com port redirection. thats the good stuff. |
| 13:15.23 | jelly | aye |
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| 13:19.12 | infernix | petemc: :) |
| 13:19.17 | infernix | we get them with dedicated ports. |
| 13:19.29 | infernix | i do have one box with a shared ipmi port but i cant even use the port under linux |
| 13:19.40 | infernix | havent bothered looking into it, just need one port anywya |
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| 13:25.18 | Jemt | Is it possible to see what drivers are included in the cupsys-driver-gutenprint package ? |
| 13:25.37 | Jemt | And does it contain both drivers for laser printers and inkjet printers ? |
| 13:25.52 | hatter | anyone heard of a tcp/ip stack going over sata ? |
| 13:26.18 | asg | hatter: perhaps you mean ATAoE (ATA over Ethernet) |
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| 13:27.10 | amadeux | My linux is not behaving very nicely when it comes to going into screensaver and/or putting my monitor on standby. I think it thinks that it is not idle. Maybe because some stuff is running and using cpu. How can I make the power logic only be dependant on keystrokes and mouse input so that it actually turns my monitor off after 5 minutes of me not using the mouse or the keyboard? should be pretty basic... even Vista does this flawlessly ;-) |
| 13:27.34 | hatter | asg, but i want to go the other way, sata in one computer plugged into sata on the other computer |
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| 13:27.51 | hatter | using the sata channel for then communication |
| 13:27.58 | Gyde | why is it that the JAVA VM goes crasy and gji aswell when you run Azureus? |
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| 13:28.04 | Agiofws | hello |
| 13:28.08 | asg | hatter: then I don't know, sorry |
| 13:28.12 | tralala | amadeux, screensaver in X does only follow keyboard and mouse, not cpu load |
| 13:28.13 | Agiofws | this is driving me crazy |
| 13:28.16 | Agiofws | agiofws@lapi:~$ synclient -l |
| 13:28.16 | Agiofws | Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? |
| 13:28.21 | Agiofws | can anyone help ? |
| 13:28.37 | Agiofws | starting to curse debian |
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| 13:29.30 | Agiofws | ami invisible ? |
| 13:29.30 | amadeux | tralala, ok. Then I don't understand why it does not go into standby after 5 minutes like I told it to in the gnome settings panel. More often than not when I come back after hours of not touching the computer, the screen is still on. Why? |
| 13:29.50 | limpio | hi, how do i know if the firewall is working after installing 'bastille'? |
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| 13:30.07 | limpio | the one that comes with bastille |
| 13:30.35 | liable | Agiofws: yes |
| 13:30.40 | Agiofws | this is driving me crazy |
| 13:30.48 | Agiofws | agiofws@lapi:~$ synclient -l |
| 13:30.51 | Agiofws | Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? |
| 13:30.58 | Agiofws | can anyone help ? |
| 13:31.38 | Agiofws | why is it so difficult to configure a fucken touchpad in debian |
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| 13:32.00 | petemc | Agiofws: do you know what you're doing? |
| 13:32.05 | Agiofws | its like crashing into a wall |
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| 13:32.09 | Agiofws | i think so |
| 13:32.14 | petemc | you think so? |
| 13:32.19 | Agiofws | yes i think so |
| 13:32.30 | petemc | so, how do you enable SHMConfig ? |
| 13:32.30 | asg | !8ball does Agiofws know what he's doing? |
| 13:32.30 | dpkg | No. |
| 13:32.47 | Agiofws | yes you put a line in xorg.conf |
| 13:32.53 | Agiofws | right petemc ? |
| 13:32.53 | petemc | right, do you have that line? |
| 13:32.56 | Agiofws | yes |
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| 13:33.12 | Agiofws | Option "SHMConfig" "on" |
| 13:33.12 | Agiofws | EndSection |
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| 13:33.22 | Agiofws | BBUT |
| 13:33.23 | andrewtaylor_ | Hi, I'm trying to get apt-get to work, I'm 99% sure I'm struggling to get through our proxy. Has anyone got 5 minutes to help me diagnose. I'm getting Failed to fetch http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 403 OK |
| 13:33.27 | petemc | in the input device section? |
| 13:33.33 | Agiofws | for some fkn reason |
| 13:33.37 | Agiofws | yes in that section |
| 13:33.40 | Appiah | andrewtaylor_: what kind of proxy? |
| 13:33.42 | petemc | Agiofws: stop getting so annoyed |
| 13:33.48 | andrewtaylor_ | IWSS from Trend |
| 13:33.59 | Appiah | did you export http_proxy ? |
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| 13:34.15 | Appiah | (first thing to do) |
| 13:34.17 | Agiofws | for some reason |
| 13:34.19 | Agiofws | (EE) TouchPad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device |
| 13:34.20 | Agiofws | (EE) TouchPad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. |
| 13:34.20 | Agiofws | (EE) PreInit failed for input device "TouchPad" |
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| 13:34.31 | cire | I have problems with my VIA Firewire Controller ("Error parsing configrom for node", " no tlabel match", aso). Found a lot of people having the same problems via google. (sometimes dated to 2003). Does anybody know a good ressource to find help, or more information, or whether this may be a known bug (since 2003??) |
| 13:34.32 | Appiah | www.pastebin.com |
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| 13:34.59 | oraut | what is the name of latex-tetex package in debian? |
| 13:35.06 | Agiofws | should my touch pad be listed here http://rafb.net/p/lbfL1S81.html can anyone help me ? |
| 13:35.13 | snikker | how can i executea command even if the previous command return false or true? "command1 && command2 && command3" work only if the previous return true |
| 13:35.22 | wols_ | !tell oraut about search |
| 13:35.25 | Agiofws | snikker, use || |
| 13:35.37 | petemc | snikker: ; |
| 13:35.37 | Agiofws | instead of && |
| 13:35.46 | andrewtaylor_ | Appiah: I've conifgured apt.conf with Acquire::http::Proxy "http://DOMAIN\\user:password@10.1.5.56:8080"; |
| 13:35.55 | Agiofws | petemc, any ideas ? |
| 13:36.08 | petemc | Agiofws: no, none |
| 13:36.25 | Gyde | anybody have a better suggestion for a torrent program with some gui, which is not Azureus, unless you know how to fix Azureus so it dosen't take up my hole system |
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| 13:36.38 | Agiofws | going to start .,... cursing etch again |
| 13:36.40 | Agiofws | :P |
| 13:36.45 | petemc | thats the spirit |
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| 13:37.16 | Agiofws | toucpad works i just cant configure the bugger |
| 13:37.22 | Agiofws | its 2 monthns now |
| 13:37.33 | Agiofws | ubuntu live cd it works ok |
| 13:37.48 | Agiofws | copy the xorg.conf from ubuntu to debian |
| 13:37.53 | Agiofws | its fks up |
| 13:38.00 | Agiofws | so some modules ? |
| 13:38.03 | Agiofws | are to blame |
| 13:38.11 | Agiofws | what fricken modules though |
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| 13:39.29 | andrewtaylor_ | Appiah: I've added http_proxy env variable but it's not making any difference, it's in both places now, apt.conf and the var |
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| 13:40.51 | wols_ | andrewtaylor_: check the way you access your proxy is the right way |
| 13:40.54 | wols_ | probably it's not |
| 13:41.14 | wols_ | e.g it doesn't accept the http://user:pass@ip syntax |
| 13:41.45 | andrewtaylor_ | that's the correct IP address and port. however, I'm not sure bout the http://DOMAIN\\user:pass@ - I think the domain is throwing it out |
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| 13:41.59 | Appiah | andrewtaylor_: just "export" then? |
| 13:42.31 | snikker | petemc: thanks the ; work! |
| 13:42.44 | petemc | np |
| 13:42.50 | Appiah | When I'm behind proxies I use NTMLmaps ... but I think thtas for MS proxy only |
| 13:43.12 | wols_ | Appiah: since he uses a domain thingie, it could very much be using NTLM |
| 13:43.25 | andrewtaylor_ | Is there a way I could tunnel this out through SSH? |
| 13:43.34 | debianfreak | hi, I'm trying to use adduser in a script and running into a weird error. If I use the --system option, everything is fine, but this is not a system user, and if I don't specify --system, I get prompted to enter five pieces of optional info about the user. So, I've tried echo "\n\n\n\n\ny\n" | adduser... but this gives a very strange error: "Use of uninitialized value in chop at /usr/sbin/adduser |
| 13:43.36 | debianfreak | line 563. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/sbin/adduser line 564." It then loops until I Ctrl-C the script. I guess my question is, how to add a non-system user without getting the crappy prompts, or else a way around them that works? |
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| 13:52.11 | ghatak | j #bash |
| 13:52.15 | ghatak | j #bash |
| 13:52.19 | ghatak | arghh.... |
| 13:53.03 | sep | ghatak, you can borrow my / if you like |
| 13:53.24 | SpeedyG | hehe |
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| 14:01.38 | andrewtaylor_ | tunneled it through an existing machine; what a nightmare, why can't people provide o/s agnostic solutions |
| 14:01.40 | andrewtaylor_ | grr |
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| 14:02.35 | andrewtaylor_ | due to people relying on windows, I've had to circumvent the security of the network to get a simple job done |
| 14:04.02 | Jemt | Does foomatic-db-gutenprint contain the same drivers as cupsys-driver-gutenprint ?? |
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| 14:08.44 | jelly | does anyone know of a handy list of rpm <-> dpkg/apt command line equivalents? |
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| 14:09.09 | Tidus | jelly, apt-get install <package> = rpm -i <some rpm file> |
| 14:09.51 | Tidus | apt-get remove <package> = rpm -u |
| 14:09.59 | jelly | Tidus: thanks, but a list usually has more than one element. I'd also like them to be correct :-) |
| 14:10.00 | Tidus | er... forgot rpm's remove command |
| 14:10.16 | Tidus | apt-get pulls deps automatically |
| 14:10.39 | jelly | I know rpm -U and rpm -e, am looking for a more comprehensive list |
| 14:10.58 | wols_ | jelly: why? just man aptitude man dpkg |
| 14:11.04 | Tidus | on debian, there's really only 4 you'd need to know |
| 14:11.20 | Tidus | apt-get <install remove update upgrade> |
| 14:11.37 | jelly | wols_: doesn't help me one bit. |
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| 14:12.42 | wols_ | jelly: why not? |
| 14:13.36 | jelly | wols_: eh, because I know the debian stuff already |
| 14:13.54 | jelly | something like http://orange-tree.alt.za/stuff/ |
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| 14:14.46 | schemelab | paste? |
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| 14:15.41 | py_ | hello |
| 14:15.45 | Jemt | Is it possible to make X.org use temporary xorg.conf file? |
| 14:15.50 | Jemt | use a* |
| 14:15.56 | schemelab | I'm using Debian/Etch 4.0 and mailman cannot find the binary "mailcmd" - http://paste.debian.net/43167 |
| 14:16.29 | py_ | does a channel about rEFIt exist? #refit doesn't, and I couldn't find info on their website |
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| 14:16.53 | mkl1525 | Hi, I'd like to test a script that restarts asterisk. that does nothing if exitstatus = 0 so I'd like to crash/kill asterisk so that its exit status is something else - any way to do this? |
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| 14:18.18 | fengor | return 1 |
| 14:19.29 | jelly | schemelab: you're misinterpreting the output. It's really "/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper" doesn't know what to do with given arguments "mailcmd $EXTENSION" |
| 14:19.40 | schemelab | jelly: I see |
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| 14:20.02 | schemelab | but mailcmd is not on the system |
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| 14:20.25 | jelly | schemelab: mailcmd is argument to the /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper command |
| 14:20.55 | schemelab | jelly: so what do you see as a solution? |
| 14:21.07 | jelly | schemelab: on the machine li2-168.members.linode.com ... are you its admin? |
| 14:21.14 | schemelab | jelly: yes, I'm root |
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| 14:21.40 | jelly | schemelab: fix your mailman aliases file. |
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| 14:22.49 | schemelab | jelly: here is the file - http://paste.debian.net/43169 - what is wrong with it? |
| 14:23.54 | jelly | schemelab: if you have upgraded from mailman 2.0 to 2.1, you need to regenerate it. The Mailman FAQ and #mailman will be much more helpful. |
| 14:24.35 | schemelab | ok thanks |
| 14:24.44 | schemelab | the mailman website did not list an IRC channel |
| 14:25.00 | jelly | schemelab: well, it's #mailman right here on freenode ;-) |
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| 14:28.26 | jelly | schemelab: fwiw, entries for mailman 2.1 look more like this: http://paste.debian.net/43170 |
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| 14:29.40 | jelly | schemelab: (ie. "... request listname" instead of "... mailcmd listname") for -request address, and there are 10 entries per list instead of just 4. |
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| 14:37.38 | jelly | !info workrave sid |
| 14:37.43 | dpkg | workrave: (Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI) prevention tool), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.8.5-3 (sid), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2000 kB |
| 14:37.50 | robboplus | is it possible to turn power saving off in etch? |
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| 14:38.02 | robboplus | i don't like the cpu changing clock every once in a while.. |
| 14:38.27 | melodosgr | hi guys! is it possible to mount a network share as a mounted filesystem on my debian? |
| 14:38.52 | robboplus | what network share? |
| 14:38.57 | liable | robboplus: unless you have installed cpufreq or something, debian doesnt do that by default |
| 14:38.59 | DawnLight | melodosgr: if you want to do anything with it, it is mandatory |
| 14:39.00 | melodosgr | windows |
| 14:39.15 | melodosgr | so it can be done? |
| 14:39.15 | robboplus | liable hm. |
| 14:39.23 | DawnLight | !samba |
| 14:39.24 | dpkg | methinks samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html), or #samba on irc.freenode.net |
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| 14:39.43 | melodosgr | i have samba installed |
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| 14:39.56 | melodosgr | but what i want to do is to mount it |
| 14:39.59 | melodosgr | like a cdrom etc.. |
| 14:40.08 | DawnLight | melodosgr: so go ahead and learn how to use it |
| 14:40.15 | melodosgr | :( |
| 14:40.18 | robboplus | liable cpufreq isn't running.. can it be so it's "hard wired" in bios? |
| 14:40.42 | Agiofws | hi |
| 14:40.49 | liable | robboplus: nope. kernel does that, have you loaded any governors? |
| 14:40.54 | Agiofws | can someone help me configure my touchpad in etch ? |
| 14:41.04 | Agiofws | should my touch pad be listed here http://rafb.net/p/lbfL1S81.html can anyone help me ? |
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| 14:41.09 | liable | !laptop |
| 14:41.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 14:41.12 | Agiofws | (EE) TouchPad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device |
| 14:41.13 | robboplus | liable hm nope, nothing unusual |
| 14:41.19 | Agiofws | Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? |
| 14:41.19 | liable | Agiofws: ^^ go check those sites out |
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| 14:43.05 | Agiofws | http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ nope don't want that |
| 14:43.12 | Agiofws | wantto solve my problem though |
| 14:43.39 | liable | you picked the least usefull url out of three |
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| 14:44.17 | Agiofws | http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html nope not even this one acer 5310 |
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| 14:47.09 | Agiofws | liable, no help |
| 14:47.17 | Agiofws | from those sites |
| 14:47.26 | liable | Agiofws: oh well |
| 14:47.46 | Agiofws | man i don't get it whay there is not touchpad how-to |
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| 14:48.13 | stew | Agiofws: /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 14:48.27 | Agiofws | and why is it that etch is so stubourn my touchpad |
| 14:48.59 | stew | Agiofws: can you show us your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:49.45 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws# modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse |
| 14:49.45 | Agiofws | FATAL: Module psmouse not found. |
| 14:49.47 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 14:49.59 | Agiofws | ok srry |
| 14:50.50 | stew | Agiofws: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:51.37 | jelly | mkl1525: weelll, if you kill it with -9, it's bound to return a different exit status (128+9). |
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| 14:52.31 | Knight_Lord | Is it possible to use NAT to forward connections to a server inside a firewall but still inform such server about which IPs sent the original request? (Basically preserving the same outside IP) |
| 14:52.48 | mo1991 | I am looking to start the "firestarter" service later in the boot cycle as it for some reason fails on boot, but starts fine once booted up. Do I change the number in front of the file in /etc/init.d/rc0.d? Not sure what runnlevel is normal boot |
| 14:53.01 | mo1991 | /etc/init.d/rc3.d? |
| 14:53.07 | mo1991 | plz help |
| 14:53.14 | asg | mo1991: man update-rc.d |
| 14:53.38 | mikes | melodosgr: i've told you to just ignore him :D |
| 14:53.39 | asg | mo1991: and in debian, runlevel 2 is the default |
| 14:53.56 | liable | firestarter has a link in rc0.d? |
| 14:53.56 | tralala | Knight_Lord, that's exactly how port forwarding works |
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| 14:54.08 | mo1991 | asg, are the runlevel files in /etc/init.d/rc.d or just /etc/rc.d? |
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| 14:54.24 | mo1991 | liable, yes |
| 14:54.41 | asg | mo1991: /etc/rcX.d but use update-rc.d to create the links correctly |
| 14:55.11 | mo1991 | asg - there already is a link in /etc/rc0.d |
| 14:55.24 | asg | mo1991: is it a K link or an S link? |
| 14:55.28 | mo1991 | can't I just change the number in front of it to be later |
| 14:55.40 | mo1991 | asg - a k link |
| 14:56.03 | asg | mo1991: that is run on shutdown, you need the S link which is likely in rc2.d |
| 14:56.06 | Agiofws | stew, http://rafb.net/p/lbfL1S81.html http://rafb.net/p/loDpIh12.html http://www.pastebin.ca/793695Linux lapi 2.6.22.6 #13 SMP Wed Oct 10 21:06:21 EEST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:56.17 | Agiofws | ? |
| 14:56.48 | mo1991 | asg - ok, there is one in rc2.d |
| 14:57.11 | mo1991 | can I just change that number to a higher number so it starts up last - which will hopefully solve my problem? |
| 14:57.15 | asg | yes |
| 14:57.26 | stew | Agiofws: is it possible you didn't compile in support for psmouse when you comipled your kernel |
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| 14:57.38 | melodosgr | mikes: tell me how can i send u pms on freenode :P |
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| 14:57.53 | Agiofws | do want me to look ? |
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| 15:00.18 | Agiofws | stew, do you want me to look if i have that module enabled ? |
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| 15:00.40 | stew | Agiofws: yes |
| 15:02.29 | Agiofws | search for psmouse ? cause it cant find anything |
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| 15:03.38 | stew | Agiofws: CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2 is the name of the config variable |
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| 15:06.04 | Knight_Lord | tralala: thanks i was doing source translation for some stupid reason |
| 15:06.09 | Agiofws | CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2: Symbol: MOUSE_PS2 [=y] |
| 15:06.19 | Agiofws | its into kernel stew |
| 15:06.24 | tralala | Knight_Lord, you're welcome |
| 15:06.36 | Agiofws | you think i should have it as a loadable module ? |
| 15:08.03 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 15:08.46 | stew | Agiofws: i do, but i don't think it is causing your current problem |
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| 15:09.22 | Agiofws | its really strange and canot solve this issue for a month |
| 15:09.30 | Agiofws | something to do with alps ? |
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| 15:09.51 | Agiofws | or is there not a goof how to on how to set up your touch pad step by step ? |
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| 15:11.02 | Agiofws | Some distributions come with an incomplete /dev directory. The |
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| 15:11.19 | Agiofws | i did that it seems ok |
| 15:11.29 | Agiofws | but still no synaptics driver loading |
| 15:12.00 | gkiagia | Agiofws: do you have CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV enabled too? |
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| 15:12.54 | XoX | anyone know what the --backup option does to rsync? |
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| 15:13.53 | SlayerXP | xox: I hear "man rsync" does |
| 15:14.02 | gkiagia | Agiofws: and CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS ? |
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| 15:14.16 | timri | XoX: "With this option, preexisting destination files are renamed as each file is transferred or deleted. You can control where the backup file goes and what (if any) suffix gets appended using the --backup-dir and --suffix options." |
| 15:14.31 | Agiofws | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
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| 15:15.07 | Agiofws | -> Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...) (INPUT [=y]) |
| 15:15.12 | Agiofws | gkiagia, |
| 15:15.18 | Agiofws | thats for evdev |
| 15:15.28 | asmarin | hi im using debian etch and mldonkey fails since last upgrade |
| 15:15.36 | asmarin | anybody knows why? |
| 15:15.50 | wols_ | !tell asmarin abour errors |
| 15:16.05 | robboplus | when using dstat - is it possible to see which process is writing to disk? or perhaps other tool could do that? |
| 15:16.08 | asmarin | daemons quit from memory |
| 15:16.12 | asmarin | wols_ |
| 15:16.20 | Agiofws | gkiagia, Symbol: MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS [=y] |
| 15:16.21 | wols_ | asmarin: that is not an error message, is it? |
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| 15:16.34 | asmarin | i put log on verbose for locate it |
| 15:16.38 | wols_ | !tell asmarin about errors |
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| 15:17.31 | gkiagia | Agiofws: -> Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...) (INPUT [=y]) <--- that's not INPUT_EVDEV |
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| 15:18.22 | gkiagia | Agiofws: in addition, are you really sure that your touchpad is a synaptics one? |
| 15:18.56 | Agiofws | Symbol: EMBEDDED [=n] |
| 15:19.03 | Agiofws | gkiagia, i don't know |
| 15:19.11 | Agiofws | and how do i find out |
| 15:19.20 | Agiofws | and evdev is in kernel |
| 15:19.39 | trulala | hi, how do I find out whether settings like CONFIG_PROC_FS and CONFIG_SYSCTL are enabled? |
| 15:19.56 | wols_ | trulala: grep your /boot/config-* |
| 15:20.11 | trulala | thx wols_ |
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| 15:20.33 | amadeux | Is there an unrar app for linux that can utilize SMP? |
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| 15:22.22 | gkiagia | Agiofws: then your touchpad is probably not synaptics but something else. I am not sure how you find it out. On my laptop lspnp (from pnputils) shows a device called SYN0703 which is the touchpad. maybe try lspnp |
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| 15:23.19 | Agiofws | bash: lspnp: command not found |
| 15:23.49 | gkiagia | Agiofws: apt-get install pnputils |
| 15:23.52 | Acxty | How can I assign a hostname on debian. I am trying to install zimbra, but it always say hostname: unknow hostname. I run hostname -i and output the same error |
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| 15:24.27 | petemc | Acxty: /etc/hosts |
| 15:24.52 | Acxty | already change in there, but still get the same error |
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| 15:25.27 | petemc | Acxty: do it right |
| 15:26.12 | asg | Acxty: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 15:27.14 | Agiofws | i wonder why me kernel is compiling from the begginig again ? |
| 15:27.17 | Agiofws | wtf ? |
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| 15:28.15 | gkiagia | Agiofws: because you typed "make" ? |
| 15:29.24 | Agiofws | gkiagia, i did |
| 15:29.49 | robboplus | does anyone in here know how to make mysql limit amounts of data written to disk? it does huge dumps like 5 megs or so, can't it do 1-2MB more often instead? |
| 15:29.52 | Agiofws | but why did it not start from the modules i just added to the config script |
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| 15:30.10 | asg | robboplus: #mysql might know |
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| 15:30.25 | fengor | because the default target for make builds the whole kernel |
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| 15:30.41 | fengor | make modules just builds the modules |
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| 15:30.59 | fengor | but since we are in debian i might suggest using modules-assistant in the future |
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| 15:31.15 | robboplus | asg not many people in there at this time :( |
| 15:31.40 | asg | robboplus: there's 439 according to my statistics |
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| 15:31.49 | Agiofws | make in slack just builds the aditional changes not everything from the beggining |
| 15:32.13 | Agiofws | crapy |
| 15:32.30 | asg | then use slack |
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| 15:33.35 | fengor | !tell Agiofws about not debian |
| 15:35.41 | Agiofws | fengor, i am using debian etch |
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| 15:41.55 | StucKman | hi all. I know the trick of dissasemble a .deb file with "ar x debfile", but I tried to use "ar q" to rebuild it and it didn't work. any ideas? |
| 15:42.44 | guillaume-fr | does black scan output with canon Lide35 usb under lenny has been solved with xsane ? |
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| 15:45.16 | jelly | StucKman: dunno about ar, but I do with with dpkg: dpkg --extract foo.deb somedir; dpkg --control foo.deb somedir/DEBIAN; (mess with it); dpkg -b somedir . |
| 15:45.31 | StucKman | jelly: ah, nice |
| 15:45.48 | jelly | StucKman: you might need to do it all in a fakeroot environment if you're not root |
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| 15:46.42 | StucKman | jelly: ok, tx |
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| 15:51.03 | dokma | hi. is there any sense in setting up ttys on a box that has ssh access only? |
| 15:51.25 | Maulkin | dokma: so what are you going to do when the sshd breaks? :) |
| 15:51.39 | dokma | well, I have no access to the machine anyway |
| 15:51.46 | StucKman | dokma: leave at least one |
| 15:51.50 | StucKman | always |
| 15:52.04 | StucKman | you never know when will you need it |
| 15:52.06 | dokma | ok, I must admit I do not fully understand ttys |
| 15:52.15 | dokma | this is a dedicated box |
| 15:52.23 | dokma | so I can't really go to the data center |
| 15:52.28 | dokma | and press alt f1 |
| 15:52.38 | dokma | is there any other use to it? |
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| 15:52.56 | StucKman | dokma: besides logging in or ptinting info, no |
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| 15:52.59 | guillaume-fr | I have to upgrade upgrade from woody to etch on a single server in production, what would be the best way to do so ? Can I just upgrade my sourcelist and upgrade aptitude and all the dist or is it dangerous ? |
| 15:53.09 | kupesoft | dokma: The overhead is pretty low, you can disable them, if you want |
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| 15:53.14 | StucKman | guillaume-fr: no, taht's just too much |
| 15:53.15 | Maulkin | guillaume-fr: go via lenny |
| 15:53.24 | Maulkin | guillaume-fr: and read the release notes :) |
| 15:53.28 | dokma | kupesoft: yeah, I saw it's not much |
| 15:53.34 | dokma | I already swithed to fgetty |
| 15:53.36 | Maulkin | gah, no |
| 15:53.43 | Maulkin | guillaume-fr: not lennt. Go via sarge |
| 15:53.46 | asg | guillaume-fr: woody -> sarge -> etch |
| 15:53.51 | dokma | but I think turning it off is not a problem |
| 15:53.59 | kupesoft | dokma: If you want a box that only runs what you want, when you want, try Linux from Scratch |
| 15:54.00 | StucKman | guillaume-fr: unless you're really fasmiliar with debian, both source and dest of the upgrade, I wouldn't recommend it |
| 15:54.07 | Thomas | can I install debian PowerPC without burning a CD from a mac ? |
| 15:54.07 | StucKman | familiar* |
| 15:54.26 | StucKman | I would suggest to build another server and porting the services ine by one |
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| 15:54.46 | asg | Maulkin: that doesn't mean it will work at this point, lenny is a moving target |
| 15:54.47 | dokma | kupesoft: I think I'm far from that good to build linux from scratch |
| 15:54.56 | dokma | and haven't got the time |
| 15:54.58 | Maulkin | I really wish I'd stop saying that :) |
| 15:55.08 | dokma | tweaked debian is still the best of all worlds |
| 15:55.10 | StucKman | Maulkin: wow |
| 15:55.15 | kupesoft | dokma: Then don't waste your time disabling the getty on the ttys, lol ;p |
| 15:55.55 | dokma | well... runing lamp and mail system on 256MB kind of gets me forced to tweak stuff |
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| 15:56.23 | dokma | I've just plugged php accelerator into it |
| 15:56.26 | guillaume-fr | StucKman: this is a good idea, I think to it too, but I'm in little company and we have only one server, moreover this server run under an old handmade kernel and I have to upgrade it to 2.6... |
| 15:56.30 | dokma | and now I'm pretty much finished |
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| 15:57.05 | StucKman | guillaume-fr: then don't forget to upgrade your firewall to iptables if you have it |
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| 15:57.28 | mkl1525 | I get "Unknown keyword in queue 'xxx': persistentmembers at line 116 of queues.conf" on a * 1.4 - anyone knows a reason? had a look at app_queue.c and found "if ((general_val = ast_variable_retrieve(cfg, "general", "persistentmembers")))" |
| 15:58.09 | xdcdx__ | I'm trying to set up a MOTD. I have a /etc/motd file and /etc/pam.d/ssh has the line 'session optional pam_motd.so'. However when I connect via SSH the motd doesn't show, any ideas? |
| 15:58.32 | StucKman | ok, bailing out |
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| 15:58.33 | guillaume-fr | StucKman: I advise my boss to buy a new one since one year, but there's still no $$ :( |
| 15:58.35 | kupesoft | xdcdx__: man sshd_config |
| 15:59.05 | xdcdx__ | kupesoft: thanks |
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| 16:00.29 | Goundy | Hi everybody |
| 16:00.54 | Goundy | Someone tried to run its bcm4318 wifi card on debian ? |
| 16:00.57 | xdcdx__ | uh... I added 'PrintMotd yes' to /etc/ssh/sshd_config , still the motd is not showing |
| 16:01.23 | Thomas | can I install debian PowerPC without burning a CD from a mac ? |
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| 16:02.15 | guillaume-fr | how many time will it take to do the upgrade as I will have to do it after 11 PM woody->sarge->etch on a celeron 1Ghz ? |
| 16:02.42 | seafish | Hello All |
| 16:02.48 | Tobsan | hello seafish |
| 16:03.01 | Tobsan | guillaume-fr: what are you talking about? i did not understand a word |
| 16:03.42 | asg | guillaume-fr: how much bandwidth do you have? That's really the limiting factor. |
| 16:03.51 | Goundy | guys, I've a problem with debian again... When I make my resolution at 1280x800 it won't work, I've some shit on the screen. Dunno what to do ? |
| 16:04.30 | asmarin | mldonkey on debian lenny breaks from memory daemon stop and dont show nothing on logs :-S |
| 16:04.32 | jelly | guillaume-fr: I'd say it depends on the amount and the exact set of packages installed and your ability to fix the problems that might happen during the upgrade procedure. |
| 16:04.33 | seafish | In my home directory I have a bunch of directories (with files inside) which I want to use to /usr/share/icons/ In console, how can I do that? embarassed to ask such a silly question, but couldn't find anywhere |
| 16:04.34 | Goundy | and if I put a 1024x800 the view is really bad :/ |
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| 16:05.21 | Goundy | nm... |
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| 16:05.37 | limpio | i tried installing pypanel but it has a bug, any other panels besides fbpanel? |
| 16:06.03 | jelly | guillaume-fr: In addition, if you have things like custom perl or php applications, they might break and someone will have to fix them to work with newer versions |
| 16:06.27 | jelly | !info perl woody |
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| 16:07.17 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | hi |
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| 16:07.48 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | i want to install debian 4.0 on a system with 3 harddisks running on raid5 |
| 16:08.01 | guillaume-fr2 | jelly: i was disconnected and couldn't read the previous answer to yours. The server actually run apache/apache2 php applications and cgi apps too and an old mysql4 |
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| 16:08.48 | asg | guillaume-fr: mysql4 is no longer in etch though the upgrade from sarge shouldn't remove the packages. |
| 16:08.50 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | i want to install debian 4.0 on a system with 3 harddisks(3x500gb) running on raid5, my debian installation finds 3 harddisks, allthough it should find 1 big harddisk with 1000gb |
| 16:09.37 | kriebel | EOL|DL|Rage_nox, unless you have a raid controller, you'll need to set up Debian to use a software raid |
| 16:09.45 | guillaume-fr2 | asg: I'll do a dump export just in case before the upgrade process |
| 16:09.46 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | i have a raid controller |
| 16:10.00 | kriebel | many of the SATA "RAID" controllers aren't really raid controllers at all |
| 16:10.03 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | and its setup in the raidcontroller bios like it should be set up |
| 16:10.23 | kriebel | is it on the motherboard? |
| 16:10.26 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | no |
| 16:10.30 | kriebel | hrm |
| 16:10.30 | asg | guillaume-fr2: you may want to limit your upgrade to woody -> sarge until you can evaluate what moving to etch will entail given your environment |
| 16:10.37 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | its an extra raid controller |
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| 16:10.51 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | because i dont want to use software raid |
| 16:10.52 | wsxws | hi there |
| 16:10.56 | wsxws | when i try to install nntp (or inn) i alwas get adress already in use, what could that be ? |
| 16:11.08 | guillaume-fr2 | asg: ok |
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| 16:11.12 | asg | wsxws: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 16:11.14 | jelly | guillaume-fr2: safe way to do it is of course to replicate the current setup and do the uprgade on a test machine first ;-) |
| 16:11.47 | wsxws | asg ? |
| 16:11.53 | wsxws | ah |
| 16:12.02 | asg | wsxws: /msg dpkg open ports (see what's using 119) |
| 16:12.04 | guillaume-fr2 | jelly: as sys admin it'll be my dream but my company has only 5 employee, and no money... :( |
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| 16:12.33 | asg | guillaume-fr2: you could replicate the setup on a cheap desktop or vmware instance and see what the upgrade does |
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| 16:12.55 | kriebel | EOL|DL|Rage_nox, what chip is on that card? Search the web for linux and the part number of the chip |
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| 16:13.03 | kriebel | you'll probably find other people who have set it up |
| 16:13.04 | wsxws | 119, there is cyrmaster on it |
| 16:13.23 | asg | wsxws: that's cyrus |
| 16:13.24 | wsxws | but exact cyrus is complaing about not finding en nntp executable |
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| 16:14.12 | SimonW | Hello - I did "apt-get install python2.5" on Etch (with no Python installed previously) and got python2.4 as well - and /usr/bin/python points to 2.4 |
| 16:14.28 | SimonW | is there a safe way to set 2.5 as the default for when I run /usr/bin/python ? Will stuff break if I just reassign the symlink? |
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| 16:15.41 | guillaume-fr2 | SimonW: update-alternatives maybe |
| 16:15.48 | kriebel | SimonW, try to remove 2.4 and see what breaks |
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| 16:16.08 | kriebel | I just tried alternatives here, and ... oh... I don't have two versions |
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| 16:16.42 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | kriebel: and afterwards |
| 16:16.50 | asg | python2.5 is not complete in etch ... most modules do not exist. I'd stick with 2.4 unless you have a compelling reason to use 2.5 |
| 16:16.51 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | after i found out what cip is on the raid controller card? |
| 16:16.54 | jelly | SimonW: actually, that's normal for python on Debian. put #!/usr/bin/python2.5 in your scripts. |
| 16:17.12 | SimonW | jelly: thanks, I think I'll play it safe then |
| 16:17.17 | wsxws | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.31 | kriebel | EOL|DL|Rage_nox, well, maybe it needs a custom boot disk. It sounds like it's designed to work with Windows, which is unfortunate |
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| 16:17.39 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | mhh |
| 16:17.45 | asg | wsxws: did you install the cyrus-news-spool package? |
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| 16:17.52 | wsxws | nope |
| 16:17.53 | kriebel | Don't be afraid of software RAID |
| 16:18.01 | asg | wsxws: are you using etch? |
| 16:18.08 | wsxws | yes |
| 16:18.13 | kriebel | good luck |
| 16:18.17 | biz | are there any fullscreen gl visualization tools or such kind for audio playback on an embedded system? I know of all the xmms, audacious plugins.. but is there anything for eg. mplayer or just for this task? |
| 16:18.25 | asg | wsxws: then install cyrus-news-spool and see if that fixes things |
| 16:18.48 | dacs | good moening all |
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| 16:19.42 | wsxws | that would be an easy solution :P |
| 16:20.10 | jelly | biz: fwiw, synaesthesia is a standalone |
| 16:20.27 | SimonW | really dumb question: I ran "apt-get install bazaar" and it said it installed fine, but I can't run the "bzr" command - is there a command I can run to ask apt what files it installed for that package and where it put them? |
| 16:20.44 | asg | SimonW: dpkg -c <pkg> |
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| 16:21.07 | jelly | SimonW: or dpkg -L packagename when it's already installed |
| 16:21.14 | asg | SimonW: or dpkg -L (if you don't have the deb) |
| 16:21.20 | SimonW | thanks |
| 16:21.46 | SimonW | aha, they've changed the name of the command to "baz" instead of "bzr" |
| 16:22.12 | Nyle | SimonW: dpkg -L pkgname|grep bin |
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| 16:22.48 | Nyle | ohman i have no more fireleft |
| 16:22.54 | Nyle | i need wakenbake |
| 16:23.01 | Nyle | now i gotta go buy a lighter |
| 16:23.10 | Nyle | !bazaar |
| 16:23.15 | Nyle | hm |
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| 16:23.20 | Nyle | !info bazaar |
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| 16:23.23 | dpkg | bazaar: (arch-based distributed revision control system), section devel, is extra. Version: 1.4.2-5.3 (sid), Packaged size: 421 kB, Installed size: 1372 kB |
| 16:23.28 | Nyle | ah |
| 16:23.39 | biz | jelly: thanks! |
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| 16:25.39 | SimonW | !info bzr |
| 16:25.41 | dpkg | bzr: (Bazaar, the next-generation distributed version control system), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.92-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2237 kB, Installed size: 11236 kB |
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| 16:27.01 | wsxws | okay, that nntp prob seems to be solved, thanks for that one |
| 16:27.37 | wsxws | just one quastion left (atm), how to create a mailbox root@.. und cyrus (it always tells me its special and therefore reserved) |
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| 16:28.18 | ToHellWithGA | i'm still hanging at the splash screen after login. any ideas on that? |
| 16:28.37 | ToHellWithGA | everything works, the splash just stays up for a long long long time |
| 16:29.38 | Ronin | ToHellWithGA: checked log files to see what may be hanging? |
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| 16:30.52 | Mark17 | i have a server with some configuration failures and it isnt booting correctly |
| 16:31.17 | Mark17 | it stops at Begin: Waiting for root file system |
| 16:31.29 | Mark17 | how can i solve that? |
| 16:31.39 | Mark17 | before it was on 2 discs and now it is on 1 disc |
| 16:31.43 | Mark17 | it did have raid |
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| 16:34.18 | ToHellWithGA | Ronin: which log would be the one to check if it's hanging at the gnome splash screen, /var/log/gdm? |
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| 16:42.00 | OmnipotentEntity | /opt is depreciated, but where should I install something that wants to install to opt by default? /usr/local? |
| 16:42.11 | ToHellWithGA | deprecated |
| 16:42.25 | ToHellWithGA | depreciated is when something loses value over time |
| 16:42.43 | Ronin | ToHellWithGA: system log perhaps? |
| 16:42.51 | ToHellWithGA | Ronin: i'll give that a looky |
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| 16:43.08 | asg | OmnipotentEntity: /opt is for 3rd party software (usually commercial) /usr/local is for local administrator installed software. man 7 hier |
| 16:43.10 | spal | I still install additional software in /opt |
| 16:43.36 | OmnipotentEntity | asg, thanks. |
| 16:43.52 | asg | OmnipotentEntity: you're welcome |
| 16:44.37 | simonrvn | and really silly since most people don't give much room to / ... |
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| 16:45.30 | asg | simonrvn: that's why the wise think before partitioning (or keep some in reserve or use lvm) |
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| 16:46.23 | simonrvn | or mv it off to /usr or don't bother installing 3rd party stuff |
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| 16:46.25 | Enverex | I'd never figured out LVM. Does it basically mean the partitions change size whenever they feel like it? |
| 16:46.59 | Nyle | hi |
| 16:47.11 | asg | Enverex: it allows you to resize the volumes on which filesystems reside. The filesystems must support resizing for this to be useful though. |
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| 16:47.41 | simonrvn | no you gotta do it manually, just makes it easy to do so without having to re-do the partitions |
| 16:47.50 | Nyle | you ever tried to add nbd to lvm? |
| 16:47.58 | Nyle | i have |
| 16:48.08 | Nyle | and its ugly work |
| 16:48.34 | simonrvn | sounds nasty |
| 16:48.35 | asg | Nyle: I'm considering lvm + ataoe + software raid for a setup at work |
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| 16:48.52 | OmnipotentEntity | Does anyone know how to put /opt into my library search path? |
| 16:49.06 | simonrvn | ld.so.conf |
| 16:49.19 | simonrvn | /opt/lib or such |
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| 16:49.38 | Nyle | asg: nice |
| 16:49.42 | Nyle | asg: btw, hi |
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| 16:49.58 | Nyle | been a while since I have seen your crazy ass |
| 16:50.04 | Nyle | :) |
| 16:50.40 | Nyle | SimonW: what is exactly ld |
| 16:50.43 | Nyle | simonrvn: |
| 16:51.01 | Nyle | simonrvn: and i'll hurt you |
| 16:51.03 | Nyle | hehe |
| 16:51.13 | simonrvn | hehehe |
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| 16:51.43 | asg | Nyle: hiya, I'm around, just busy |
| 16:52.00 | Nyle | simonrvn: what is this ld man |
| 16:52.12 | simonrvn | dynamic linker |
| 16:52.15 | Nyle | ramdonnly links libas |
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| 16:52.19 | Nyle | oh yeh, thats it |
| 16:52.21 | Nyle | i'd forgotten |
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| 16:58.01 | DawnLight | how can i make a command launch by a hardware event? |
| 16:58.17 | DawnLight | like a cable plugged in an ethernet port? |
| 16:58.37 | ToHellWithGA | DawnLight: like how cd burning can be automatically launched when you insert a blank? |
| 16:59.08 | DawnLight | ToHellWithGA: perhaps it is the same mechanizm. udev? |
| 16:59.10 | ToHellWithGA | i know gnome's "removable drives and media" does that |
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| 16:59.23 | ToHellWithGA | i reckon #gnome would know where to dig for that code |
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| 16:59.48 | ToHellWithGA | DawnLight: that sounds like cool, holla back if you get it working |
| 17:00.05 | DawnLight | will do |
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| 17:01.47 | Mark17 | does someone knows something about the rescue mode in debian 4.0? |
| 17:02.00 | Mark17 | i get constantly errors |
| 17:03.43 | DawnLight | what is your problem exactly? |
| 17:04.01 | Mark17 | i need to reinstall grub, but i get constantly errors |
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| 17:04.54 | simonrvn | grub-install |
| 17:05.29 | Mark17 | reinstall grub boot loader in de rescue mode give constantly errors |
| 17:05.59 | Mark17 | simonrvn: i have to do it with the rescue mode or is grub-install a build-in command? |
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| 17:06.38 | simonrvn | boot from the install cd yes |
| 17:06.38 | shriphani | is anyone using KDE on debian ? |
| 17:06.58 | weierstrass | (deafening silence) |
| 17:07.13 | weierstrass | people who use debian tend to value freedom and stability |
| 17:07.22 | gkiagia | shriphani: yes |
| 17:07.33 | Mark17 | simonrvn: where can i type that? |
| 17:07.45 | simonrvn | alt-f2 |
| 17:08.08 | shriphani | ok. well I tried a few styles on kde-look.org .. I have dependency errors on all of them. Can someone point me to a source where I can find more success ? |
| 17:08.52 | Mark17 | grub-installer do you mean? |
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| 17:10.25 | Mark17 | executing grub-install (hd0) failed. this is a fatal error |
| 17:10.57 | gkiagia | shriphani: Any more details? From a quick guess, I guess you need kdelibs4-dev and kdebase-dev |
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| 17:11.43 | shriphani | gkiagia, the errors are usually due to "Required version is something, something lower in number is installed" |
| 17:11.47 | Mark17 | using the debian 4.0 net install disc |
| 17:11.59 | xoz_ | Mark17: grub-install /dev/hda |
| 17:12.13 | Mark17 | grub-install cant be found |
| 17:12.28 | gkiagia | shriphani: oh, then you may need packages from testing/unstable |
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| 17:13.18 | Mark17 | xoz_: where is grub-install located? |
| 17:13.37 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | in most cases you have to be logged in as root |
| 17:13.39 | EOL|DL|Rage_nox | to use grub install |
| 17:13.48 | DawnLight | ToHellWithGA: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#external-run |
| 17:14.02 | shriphani | gkiagia, so if I prefer using stable, I can't use most of the styles on kde-look.org ? |
| 17:14.30 | xoz_ | Mark17: as root. you can also use apt-file search grub-install to find the package. apt-get install apt-file, apt-file update if you have not installed apt-file. |
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| 17:14.50 | Mark17 | how can i mount my harddisc using the rescue mode? |
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| 17:15.46 | S4nD3r | amsn |
| 17:16.11 | gkiagia | shriphani: well, sorry, I don't know. there may be a better solution... but I've never looked at it |
| 17:16.42 | shriphani | gkiagia, you use testing packages ? |
| 17:16.48 | PriceChild | !ops | IQ is a pm spammer |
| 17:16.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: pricechild complains about: | IQ is a pm spammer |
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| 17:17.00 | gkiagia | shriphani: I use unstable all the time :) |
| 17:17.16 | Mark17 | how can i mount my harddisc using the rescue mode? |
| 17:17.17 | shriphani | gkiagia, in that case i think its better I use gnome. |
| 17:17.37 | troubled | PriceChild: btw, no | here :) |
| 17:17.37 | shriphani | gkiagia, can you point me to an osx like dock available in the repos ? |
| 17:17.44 | DawnLight | Mark17: i don't think there is a rescue mode |
| 17:17.50 | PriceChild | troubled, think again |
| 17:17.58 | Maulkin | PriceChild: What? |
| 17:18.03 | Mark17 | DawnLight: i am in the rescue mode on the net install disc |
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| 17:18.23 | PriceChild | Maulkin, "IQ" spams people when they join. a .tk link |
| 17:18.33 | gkiagia | shriphani: kxdocker maybe? |
| 17:18.44 | Maulkin | They're not on #debian any more. Not much I can do. |
| 17:18.45 | LoRez | IQ isn't in here. |
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| 17:18.56 | zinx | PriceChild: the blue & magenta free porno videos guy? or some other .tk? |
| 17:18.57 | Maulkin | Go ask in #freenode :) |
| 17:18.59 | DawnLight | Mark17: man mount |
| 17:19.01 | LoRez | not on the network any longer either. |
| 17:19.03 | PriceChild | LoRez, he was when i called the ops |
| 17:19.08 | PriceChild | LoRez, see the quit above |
| 17:19.18 | troubled | PriceChild: think again what? |
| 17:19.45 | troubled | PriceChild: trust me, dpkg doesnt care about your | here. thats ubotu in #ubuntu only |
| 17:19.55 | Mark17 | DawnLight: man: not found |
| 17:20.01 | PriceChild | troubled, ah doesn't need it... but doesn't mess it up either. I'm with you. |
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| 17:21.33 | DawnLight | Mark17: find the manual with google |
| 17:21.37 | troubled | PriceChild: nod :) thats why it put the | in your description. factoids in infobot use just pass the params along directly to the factoid code, where as ubotu uses the | to determine who to direct stuff to |
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| 17:22.07 | troubled | !literal cmd: ops (.*?) |
| 17:22.08 | dpkg | "cmd: ops (.*?)" is "($problem): <reply>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: $nick complains about: $problem" |
| 17:22.31 | DawnLight | !wayttd Mark17 |
| 17:22.32 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Mark17? |
| 17:22.44 | Mark17 | DawnLight: i need to reinstall grub |
| 17:22.51 | troubled | PriceChild: basically, everything after the ops part becomes $problem, including your |. anyways, have fun, lessons over ;) |
| 17:23.05 | DawnLight | Mark17: why is that |
| 17:23.15 | Mark17 | but to do that i need to mount my operating system and i cant find out how |
| 17:23.20 | troubled | mentor: howdy |
| 17:23.26 | Mark17 | it isnt booting because of some wrong configurations |
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| 17:23.46 | mentor | oh |
| 17:23.49 | mentor | LoRez: got it |
| 17:23.51 | DawnLight | Mark17: get a grub floppy/cd and boot your debian from it |
| 17:23.51 | mentor | in which case |
| 17:23.58 | mentor | :) |
| 17:24.24 | Mark17 | DawnLight: also changing the grub config on booting isnt working, i need to replace a lot more |
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| 17:24.45 | troubled | mentor: sorry, didnt notice hehe ;) |
| 17:24.52 | DawnLight | Mark17: is grub loading on bootup? |
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| 17:25.00 | Mark17 | DawnLight: yes |
| 17:25.13 | Mark17 | but changing it isnt working |
| 17:25.25 | Mark17 | or at least it stops at a later point |
| 17:25.28 | shriphani | gkiagia, do you know any docker for gnome as well ? |
| 17:25.31 | troubled | mentor: was more worried about ! ops hilighting ppl and totally overlooked the nicks |
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| 17:26.00 | mentor | heh |
| 17:26.01 | DawnLight | Mark17: what did you do to brake the boot process? |
| 17:26.23 | dell_lin | how do i check which file system i am using |
| 17:26.25 | gkiagia | shriphani: no, sorry. |
| 17:26.39 | shriphani | :( |
| 17:26.53 | gkiagia | there may be one... but I don't know |
| 17:26.55 | simonrvn | 'break' |
| 17:26.57 | cahoot | dell_lin: just run 'mount' |
| 17:27.06 | simonrvn | you'll get it eventually ;) |
| 17:27.10 | DawnLight | break |
| 17:27.15 | Mark17 | i copied all files from server1 to server2, but server1 is using 2 discs (software raid1) and server2 is using 1 disc |
| 17:27.19 | Mark17 | and only problems |
| 17:27.36 | jelly | troubled: you got a case of msg-the-bots? :-) |
| 17:27.38 | simonrvn | i'm uninterruptible |
| 17:27.50 | troubled | jelly: simonrvn isnt a bot :p |
| 17:27.54 | Mark17 | is it possible to reinstall only some parts off debian with the net install disc (so not erasing the total disc, but only some partitions)? |
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| 17:28.06 | DawnLight | Mark17: ouch. can't help you there, sorry |
| 17:28.10 | jelly | troubled: I meant the !literal before ;-) |
| 17:28.28 | troubled | jelly: if you scroll up more you will see what the point was |
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| 17:28.57 | dell_lin | thanks |
| 17:29.11 | acu01 | I want to install a wireless 1390 broadcom card in an HP Turion laptop - I use lenny - I cannot even get to modprob |
| 17:30.08 | dell_lin | if i say cat /proc/filesystem what it mean and what it use for |
| 17:30.23 | Titanous | there is a bug that is preventing tzdata from installing properly on my machine (lenny). Somehow the configuration of the install fails, preventing all the other packages from upgrading. I have submitted a bug, how do I prevent it form installing while I am waiting for a resolution? |
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| 17:33.27 | Mark17 | is it possible to reinstall debian 4.0 without losing data in the /home directory (only reinstalling the other things)? |
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| 17:33.42 | simonrvn | yes. see the install guide |
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| 17:36.07 | Mark17 | simonrvn: where in the online install guide is it? |
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| 17:38.12 | simonrvn | i don't recall, sorry |
| 17:38.40 | Mark17 | because i cannot find it |
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| 17:39.02 | Nyle | im not sure you can |
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| 17:39.53 | milkcan | I PAINT PICTURES OF PROPHET MUHAMMED WITH SHIT AND THEN I'LL SELL THEM TO MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 17:40.04 | neotic | do it |
| 17:40.10 | simonrvn | !ops milkcan |
| 17:40.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: milkcan |
| 17:40.13 | Mark17 | milkcan: stop spamming please |
| 17:40.14 | Nyle | wow |
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| 17:40.28 | simonrvn | thanks LoRez :) |
| 17:40.29 | troubled | bah, he just hit like 10 channels before here too |
| 17:40.40 | Enverex | Mark17, Do you honestly think someone that spams that will say "Oh right, sorry, it was an accident" |
| 17:41.09 | Nyle | my knee hurts |
| 17:41.14 | Mark17 | Enverex: no, but i didnt know that option simonrvn did use |
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| 17:41.27 | ccg | how to authentificate to a wep encrypted wlan ? |
| 17:41.33 | jelly | whoah, I thought that milkman guy was an exclusive feature of EFNet |
| 17:41.37 | Enverex | Mark17, But my point was what you said was utterly pointless... heh |
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| 17:41.54 | findme | ccg, script |
| 17:42.00 | a4ndr3c | iwconfig <interface> essid <name> key <key> |
| 17:42.09 | Titanous | there is a bug that is preventing tzdata from installing properly on my machine (lenny). Somehow the configuration of the install fails, preventing all the other packages from upgrading. I have submitted a bug, how do I prevent it form installing while I am waiting for a resolution? |
| 17:42.12 | a4ndr3c | dhcliet <interface> |
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| 17:42.31 | Nyle | Titanous: hold the package |
| 17:42.34 | Nyle | maybe |
| 17:42.47 | simonrvn | downgrade and put it on hold |
| 17:43.03 | ccg | and how about wpa ? |
| 17:43.26 | Nyle | simonrvn: any remedy for aching knee |
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| 17:43.52 | Nyle | i took some pain relievers earlier but it didn't help |
| 17:43.59 | simonrvn | rub it |
| 17:44.13 | Mark17 | simonrvn: how can i reinstall the / without reinstalling /home (it is 1 partition)? |
| 17:44.21 | lijopallatt | hai |
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| 17:44.27 | simonrvn | eh, not sure you can |
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| 17:44.57 | simonrvn | backup /home, reinstall, restore it |
| 17:44.58 | a4ndr3c | hummm for wpa si better to read "man iwconfig" I never connected to a wpa wi-fi lan |
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| 17:45.07 | ccg | ok thx |
| 17:45.50 | Larks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:46.39 | Mark17 | what files are standard installed in /home on debian 4.0? |
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| 17:46.51 | row_ | how can one rename a lvm vg? |
| 17:46.53 | simonrvn | nothing, just user data |
| 17:47.18 | muh2000 | i dont get it, i changed the link for openvpn to be started after dhcpd and still i cant receive an ip over the external but on the same machine dhcp server over the vpn... :/ |
| 17:47.53 | row_ | ah vgexport |
| 17:48.05 | Mark17 | warning: failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc << how can i solve that? |
| 17:48.24 | simonrvn | uh, chroot first then mount /proc |
| 17:49.05 | Mark17 | that is what i get when i try to install the debian 4.0 without erasing the / |
| 17:49.49 | ekimus | Mark17: that command is just wrong |
| 17:49.57 | ekimus | Mark17: you either chroot _or_ mount |
| 17:50.06 | Mark17 | ekimus: i didnt type it |
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| 17:50.17 | Mark17 | that is what i get on my screen from the debian installer |
| 17:50.32 | ekimus | Mark17: is that the standard debian installer? |
| 17:50.42 | ekimus | or debootstrap or even something else? |
| 17:50.46 | Mark17 | net install 4.0 |
| 17:50.51 | fundesktop | why were there no updates in debian unstable since days? |
| 17:50.55 | Mark17 | net install debian 4.0 |
| 17:50.57 | ekimus | Mark17: hmm any reason not to format /? |
| 17:51.08 | Mark17 | i need to keep the data in /home |
| 17:51.14 | Mark17 | and it is on the same partition |
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| 17:51.18 | simonrvn | i guess he can't backup /home |
| 17:51.40 | Mark17 | simonrvn: correct, i cannot even mount / anymore |
| 17:51.42 | a4ndr3c | when I install debian I can choose the packages I want or theres is a default number of packages? |
| 17:52.08 | ekimus | a4ndr3c: there's a default, but that's normally bare minimum compared to other distros |
| 17:52.11 | a4ndr3c | I have ubuntu but Im considering change to debian because of the custumization |
| 17:52.12 | fundesktop | couldn't he boot a live cd, delete everything but /home, and then size down the partition, create a new partition after it, and then install a new system there? |
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| 17:52.21 | simonrvn | you can choose them. just don't run tasksel |
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| 17:52.34 | ekimus | Mark17: no external usb disc or something, that would ease up the whole process a lot |
| 17:52.39 | simonrvn | fundesktop: his *nix skillz are lacking i think |
| 17:52.45 | a4ndr3c | ok thx the defauly includes the kernel and the basics GNU packages write? |
| 17:52.46 | Mark17 | ekimus: no |
| 17:53.19 | Mark17 | simonrvn: i just cannot find anything that could be the thing to mount to backup /home |
| 17:53.55 | ekimus | Mark17: i think gparted (something like that) can to repartitioning. but I've never done that myself just read about it, you could try to move /home to another partition and then kill / without affecting /home... |
| 17:54.15 | Mark17 | only the /home and swap partition are there |
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| 17:54.40 | Mark17 | ekimus: and how can i do that without being able to get to any files on my harddrive? |
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| 17:55.04 | acu01 | I have lenny - I want to install JRE (suns version) in the stable this could be installed if I have non-free repository on - what should I do in lenny ? |
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| 17:55.24 | wols_ | acu01: same |
| 17:55.32 | ekimus | Mark17: with a live cd, you need a live cd anyway to repartition somewhat safely. and while you're at it i'd recommend using LVM it will safe you a lot of headache in the future for such use cases... |
| 17:55.37 | Larks | oops, accidentally unplugged my machine |
| 17:55.48 | acidchild | whamaham. |
| 17:56.00 | acidchild | trying to pull the sound jack out? |
| 17:56.01 | acidchild | ;D |
| 17:56.04 | Mark17 | ekimus: can i use the net install disc as a livecd or what should i use? |
| 17:56.05 | Larks | haha |
| 17:56.45 | Larks | nah, i have 1 keyboard and 2 machines, normally logged in headless. But working on network troubleshooting, and only 1 keyboard :) |
| 17:56.48 | ekimus | Mark17: personally I use grml or knoppix, knoppix providing a more convenient interface if you're used to work with X |
| 17:57.15 | ekimus | Mark17: grml has more tools for recovery but afair all you need should be on knoppix... |
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| 17:57.23 | Mark17 | lets download knoppix somewhere, but first get a disc from the car :) |
| 17:58.01 | ekimus | hmm is there a debian base "mini" distro? something where there are no manpages /usr/share/doc/* and other stuff wasting space? |
| 17:58.07 | ekimus | s/base/based |
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| 17:58.22 | Ronin | ekimus: wouldnt say docs and man pages are wasting space |
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| 17:58.48 | jelly | ekimus: OTOH, grml has zsh as default shell and lots of open screens by default, which raises the coolness factor possibly by more than 50%! |
| 17:59.09 | a4ndr3c | ekimos: man pages are vital |
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| 17:59.14 | Larks | does anyone know what driver to load for Intel PRO/1000 GT desktop adapter? |
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| 17:59.28 | jelly | Lark1: e1000 doesn't work? |
| 17:59.35 | jelly | Larks: e1000 doesn't work? |
| 17:59.50 | Larks | ill try it. |
| 18:00.09 | jelly | if it worked, it would probably work automatically |
| 18:00.16 | Larks | hmm |
| 18:00.20 | Larks | then no. |
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| 18:00.25 | ekimus | Ronin: a4ndr3c are you telling me that you don't know about such a distro or that I need this stuff on router boxes with a 512MB CF card? |
| 18:00.27 | Larks | im running etch |
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| 18:01.29 | jelly | Larks: two choices: if that's supposed to be the right driver, try a newer (backported) kernel, or build e1000 from intel's tar.gz |
| 18:01.36 | ivx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.01 | Larks | k |
| 18:02.16 | Larks | looks as if e1000 is installed |
| 18:02.26 | Larks | lspci recognizes the card. |
| 18:02.31 | Larks | it just doesn't work |
| 18:02.33 | ekimus | Larks: there's a new card from intel in the shops that works with e1000 but the e1000 it needs is a new version available at the intel site but not yet in the etch kernel. chances are you got that card... |
| 18:02.45 | Larks | ok |
| 18:02.54 | Larks | ill try to build from source |
| 18:02.57 | Larks | thanks for the help. |
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| 18:03.01 | ekimus | Larks: i have that card in one of those dell vostro boxes. took me a few days to find that out :) |
| 18:03.11 | Larks | cool. |
| 18:03.20 | acidchild | Anyone know much about multi port NIC cards? |
| 18:03.33 | acidchild | and how i find out if they are switched routed or managed switch? |
| 18:03.39 | Larks | date on card is 5/16/2007 |
| 18:03.42 | Larks | thats on the package. |
| 18:03.57 | fundesktop | is it a good idea to comment out all entries in /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update, and then add the entries again? I want to force apt to download all package lists again |
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| 18:04.36 | acidchild | How i find out which kinda card i have, without ripping it out of the box? |
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| 18:04.59 | Larks | fundesktop: #apt-get autoclean (i think it is) |
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| 18:05.15 | row_ | I am about reinstall a machine as I am putting in new hardware and going 64bit and want to redo my LVM with new hdds then copy data from old LVM setup and re add the hdds once data is moved, yet I want to name the new vg the same as the old vg but that is of course going to cause a problem when I try and mount it is it not, how can I rename a vg? |
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| 18:05.29 | fundesktop | Larks: that deletes old packets, it doesn't have to do anything with the packet lists AFAIK |
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| 18:05.42 | ekimus | Larks: "00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02)" is what lspci says - note that it's a GB NIC despite of the 10/100 saying from lspci... |
| 18:05.52 | sharperguy | anyone know where i could find a package for armagetronad-server for debian stable? |
| 18:06.18 | row_ | ah vgrename I am blind |
| 18:06.24 | Larks | I get Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller |
| 18:06.46 | Larks | (rev 05) |
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| 18:10.08 | ToHellWithGA | DawnLight: thanks for the link :) |
| 18:10.09 | acu01 | I have to big headaches: 1 I need to install Wireless Dell 1390 (broadcom - version 2.0) Second headache to install a HP webcam (built in the laptop) - any help sugestion is appreciated |
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| 18:11.32 | ivx | acu01 see if http://www.debiantutorials.org/content/view/153/213/ helps |
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| 18:12.39 | ToHellWithGA | acu01: webcams might be ucvideo-related |
| 18:12.48 | ToHellWithGA | broadcom chips are nasty nasty though :/ |
| 18:13.05 | ToHellWithGA | in my experience i've only made them work with ndiswrapper |
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| 18:20.37 | snikker | i've run this from a script: "PATH=/opt/mypath/bin:$PATH". How can i remove this, without reboot? |
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| 18:21.18 | asg | snikker: just set a new PATH |
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| 18:22.33 | snikker | asg: but i want only remove "/opt/mypath/bin" from path... |
| 18:22.47 | Tramp | snikker: PATH=${PATH#*:} |
| 18:22.58 | ekimus | snikker: echo $PATH and then PATH="<the part of $PATH you want>" |
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| 18:23.49 | snikker | Tramp, ekimus: thank you very much! |
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| 18:24.03 | Tramp | snikker: np |
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| 18:24.32 | ekimus | Tramp: is that a valid expression? |
| 18:24.44 | daniele_982 | hello all i've a geforce 8400M gt but after hibernation (by gnome) i've a white screen.....same solution for this problem? |
| 18:25.06 | Tramp | ekimus: for bash yes. Removes the shortest Prefix matching the given pattern (man bash) |
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| 18:25.41 | ekimus | Tramp: any headline in the manpage i can jump to? |
| 18:25.47 | Titanous | Can anyone help with this? http://pastebin.ca/793869 |
| 18:25.58 | Tramp | ekimus: hehe. Search for "##" or "%%" |
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| 18:26.10 | Titanous | It's on lenny, and is driving me nuts |
| 18:26.25 | Titanous | there's a problem configuring tzdata |
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| 18:26.36 | Titanous | debug data incluede |
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| 18:27.48 | Tramp | ekimus: the heading is "Parameter Expansion" but its not the first match. |
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| 18:28.03 | ekimus | Tramp: already got it. thanks |
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| 18:29.31 | zoldar | hello, recently I have installed 4GB of ram on a debian etch box. System shows only ~3,3GB in meminfo/free/top. Whole 4GB is seen by BIOS. I have tried passing mem=4GB on boot. Also recompiled the kernel with CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G set. With no effect. Any ideas? |
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| 18:29.49 | ppk|laptop | does anyone here know how to set up a VPN? |
| 18:29.50 | wols_ | zoldar: you are running i386 |
| 18:29.54 | zoldar | correction, mem=4096M |
| 18:30.00 | zoldar | wols_: yes |
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| 18:30.22 | wols_ | a single process can never see more than ~3,6GB in i386. use amd64 |
| 18:30.40 | zoldar | wols_: on intel xeon? |
| 18:30.42 | wols_ | !tell ppk|laptop about anyone |
| 18:30.46 | wols_ | zoldar: yes |
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| 18:31.06 | ppk|laptop | fine |
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| 18:31.18 | daniele_982 | hello all i've a geforce 8400M gt but after hibernation (by gnome) i've a white screen.....same solution for this problem? |
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| 18:31.22 | zoldar | wols_: but do i need to reinstall the whole system in that architecture? |
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| 18:31.30 | wols_ | zoldar: yes |
| 18:31.33 | ppk|laptop | how do you set up a VPN? |
| 18:31.38 | zoldar | bugger:( |
| 18:31.42 | wols_ | !vpn |
| 18:31.43 | dpkg | it has been said that vpn is see Virtual Private Network. see OpenSSH, or check http://kubarb.phsx.ukans.edu/~tbird/vpn.html for a host of info. http://www.vpnc.org/ and http://www.freeswan.org/, or at http://openvpn.net/ |
| 18:32.09 | zoldar | wols_: thanks for help |
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| 18:32.39 | wols_ | zoldar: as an interim you could run a 64bit kernel only |
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| 18:33.17 | zoldar | wols_: it's fresh install so it won't be that much fuss, and better if it'll be consistent all the way |
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| 18:33.43 | wols_ | use the netinst |
| 18:34.00 | zoldar | using it, thanks |
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| 18:35.43 | eth01 | is it possible to get pre-made kernels for debian etch btw? |
| 18:35.51 | zoldar | sorry one more question, just to be sure - isn't it ia64 in case of xeon 5xxx ? |
| 18:35.57 | acu01 | I need libcdio7 which is in sid - can I add sid install libscio7 and disable sid repo ? (I am running lenny now) |
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| 18:36.36 | acu01 | OK, let me say it again - can I enable sid repository - install something and then disable sid ? |
| 18:37.05 | DawnLight | ToHellWithGA: i'm afraid i don't want to read all that :D |
| 18:37.09 | acu01 | I know there is pinning (or something like this - but I do not know how to do it ) |
| 18:37.12 | ppk|laptop | acu01, just download that package |
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| 18:37.37 | wols_ | eth01: yes |
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| 18:37.55 | wols_ | acu01: you can. most times you will break your debian down the line then |
| 18:38.02 | wols_ | !tell acu01 about simple sid backport |
| 18:38.10 | peyj | why doesn't openbox-session work while just running openbox does |
| 18:38.12 | wols_ | acu01: either use backports.org or make a backport yourself |
| 18:38.24 | peyj | the openbox wiki says that I should use openbox-session |
| 18:38.37 | ekimus | hmm that's strange... I used the etch installer in vmware with a 1GB disk and it hangs at 34% "Installing Core Packages" last message in tty4 was "Setting up tasksel" has anybody seen this before? |
| 18:38.56 | wols_ | zoldar: ia64 is itantium. you have no itanium |
| 18:39.25 | wols_ | ekimus: just don't use tasksel at all |
| 18:39.31 | zoldar | ok |
| 18:39.51 | ekimus | wols_: the thing is it hangs at the progress bar at 34% there seems to be no activity any more... |
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| 18:40.06 | wols_ | ekimus: then check what package it tries to install |
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| 18:40.20 | acu01 | wols_ thanks - now I have lenny installed (because my NIC card was not recognized by the kernel etch came with) so I can enable backports for etch ? |
| 18:40.35 | wols_ | you can, but why would you? |
| 18:40.47 | wols_ | the backports you get are usually from lenny anyways |
| 18:40.55 | wols_ | when you already run lenny, it's pointless mostly |
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| 18:41.29 | wols_ | if you want to reinstall: /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 18:46.59 | GERMAN | son todos unos putos de mierda!!! |
| 18:47.38 | Eulex | I don't think that that was a compliment |
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| 18:48.40 | brianski | anyone know of a good overview of LVM? |
| 18:48.43 | ekimus | hmm a guy/girl with "GERMAN" as a nickname and spanish? as the language? |
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| 18:48.46 | brianski | i'm trying to decide if i should use it or not |
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| 18:48.59 | ekimus | brianski: tldp.org has a good howto... |
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| 18:49.03 | brianski | on the one hand the complexity seems overkill, but on the other, it would be handy in some cases |
| 18:49.14 | hhj | nope that was portugues and it traslates to " you all are a buch of s.o.b full of chit |
| 18:49.19 | brianski | ekimus: i'm reading the howto now actually, heh. i meant kind of a higher level look |
| 18:49.22 | hhj | ekimus: thats portuguese |
| 18:49.23 | brianski | like an article about it or something |
| 18:49.42 | daniele_982 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.58 | hhj | i am just trying to figure out why he said that |
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| 18:50.33 | ekimus | brianski: google "lvm site:linux-mag.com" there's a multi part read up about it iric |
| 18:50.38 | ekimus | iirc even |
| 18:51.06 | ToHellWithGA | DawnLight: if it was easy it wouldn't be any fun |
| 18:51.18 | brianski | ekimus: w00t - thats exactly what i'm looking for |
| 18:51.20 | brianski | thanks ekimus |
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| 18:52.58 | DawnLight | ToHellWithGA: i'd like to make br0 go when eth1 is plugged in :) |
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| 18:53.16 | logd | hi all ;) there's a way to prevent user access files on a system chrooting from a live cd? |
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| 18:53.33 | DawnLight | logd: encrypted filesystem |
| 18:53.41 | ekimus | DawnLight: how about a post-up script in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 18:53.58 | DawnLight | ekimus: i can't see how that is possible |
| 18:54.42 | DawnLight | ekimus: that means i have to rely on allow-hotplug eth1 but i don't have an iface eth1 stanza |
| 18:55.10 | ekimus | DawnLight: and creating one is a problem because... |
| 18:55.20 | DawnLight | because eth1 shoudn't be configured individually. it is enslaved to br0 |
| 18:55.39 | ekimus | DawnLight: ah. that seems tricky then :) |
| 18:55.58 | logd | <DawnLight>chances are that a power failure may break fs integrity making all files inaccessible ? |
| 18:56.35 | logd | on efs |
| 18:56.37 | DawnLight | perhaps i can use iface eth1 inet manual so it won't configure it |
| 18:56.55 | DawnLight | i don't know about encrypted file systems anything, logd |
| 18:57.01 | peyj | can someone tell me a lightweight window manager that I DONT know about? :) |
| 18:57.15 | DawnLight | how lightweight? |
| 18:57.21 | cahoot | peyj: screen? |
| 18:57.22 | peyj | VERY leightweight |
| 18:57.32 | peyj | as leightweight as possible |
| 18:57.33 | peyj | :) |
| 18:57.39 | peyj | I need something fast |
| 18:57.48 | DawnLight | peyj: look at the x-window-manager package |
| 18:58.06 | DawnLight | using light things doesn't make the computer faster |
| 18:58.34 | peyj | DawnLight, I know, but I like light |
| 18:58.46 | k31th | I have aproblem I see the ipw2100 module loaded... yet it is not showing it as an interface and gnome network-manager is not picking it up.. any ideas? |
| 18:58.52 | peyj | openbox is kinda good, but doesn't really work like I want it to |
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| 19:00.25 | yang | If I have 1Gb of memory, which memory is calculated from "top" command - Virt/RES/SHR ? |
| 19:00.34 | DawnLight | peyj: custumization=weight |
| 19:00.56 | Tobsan | is there a way i can set my screen resolution with some command? |
| 19:01.38 | peyj | DawnLight, yeh, but openbox doesn't want to autostart apps :( |
| 19:02.02 | tralala | xingu, I managed to configure a tickless kernel, but I only gained 0.5W. With a stock kernel the cpu doesn't get to C3 at all - it spends 99% in C2. With tickless it goes to C3, but the gain is small and the system crashed at some point. |
| 19:02.04 | DawnLight | wmii seems fun |
| 19:02.36 | peyj | ok, will check that one out |
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| 19:02.53 | peyj | brb |
| 19:02.56 | hhj | fluxbox is fun and is faster then any other windows manager |
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| 19:04.10 | kiiz | hello |
| 19:04.39 | madclicker | hi, how can i get vde package for etch? |
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| 19:06.49 | Tobsan | btw |
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| 19:07.05 | Tobsan | is there a convenient way to uninstall gnome, and everything inside it? |
| 19:07.17 | Tobsan | can i just apt-get remove gnome? |
| 19:07.27 | elenril | hi |
| 19:07.28 | _DustyBin | anyone here had any experience with vserver? i want to split my mythtv box away from applications like postfix + bind, id like to create a guest vserver os |
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| 19:07.59 | kiiz | i am new to debian and in the process of downloading version 4.0r1 with jigdo. in reality how many cd images is needed to install derbian |
| 19:08.08 | elenril | i've got a new monitor, that should be able to handle 1600x1200@110, but xrandr and friends only offer 85 hz |
| 19:08.09 | Tramp | !tell Tobsan about remove gnome |
| 19:08.14 | Tobsan | thanks |
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| 19:08.29 | jelly-home | kiiz: just the first if you have internet connectivity |
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| 19:08.55 | jelly-home | kiiz: or just the netinst (around 150MB) |
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| 19:12.02 | Surfing-Geek | what do I need to do to get etch to detect my usb wifi card? |
| 19:12.10 | kiiz | will i be able to use a dial up with derbian |
| 19:12.31 | phil0u | Hello, i'm using Unstable on x86 and since couple weeks now, i can't install the "locales" package as it depend on glibc-2.7.1 which doesn't seem to be available |
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| 19:13.01 | phil0u | can someone tell me how i can get back my locales settings ? Thanks much |
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| 19:13.46 | rto | phil0u: dpkg-reconfigure locales should do it |
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| 19:14.35 | phil0u | rto: well, "locales" package was removed during a previous upgrade |
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| 19:15.36 | phil0u | rto: i thought well, no big deal, things will settle back smoothly in a few days or maybe a week, but it doesn't seem like so |
| 19:15.59 | yang | If I have 1Gb of memory, which memory is calculated from "top" command - Virt/RES/SHR ? |
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| 19:16.08 | darkbahamut | hello everyone |
| 19:16.21 | elenril | phil0u, locales 2.6.1-1 installable here without problems |
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| 19:16.30 | rto | phil0u: Hmm, if you are using aptitude you should be able to install locales and then it should give you the option of downgrading glibc |
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| 19:16.50 | phil0u | rto: well , i don't use aptitude, standard apt-get |
| 19:17.02 | findme | yang, Mem: 905388k total, 352088k used, 553300k free, 30948k buffers |
| 19:17.13 | phil0u | elenril: what version of glibc do you have ? |
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| 19:17.26 | findme | yang, physical mem, virtual is under swap |
| 19:17.33 | rto | phil0u: They should be interchangeable |
| 19:17.43 | elenril | phil0u, libc6 2.6.1-1 |
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| 19:18.06 | elenril | hmm, i wonder where it's from |
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| 19:18.28 | elenril | err 2.6.1-6 |
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| 19:18.39 | phil0u | elenril: ok, i guess that's because i'm have libc 2.7.0exp6 |
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| 19:19.14 | elenril | phil0u, that's from experimental, is it not? |
| 19:19.27 | phil0u | elenril: no, just "Unstable" |
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| 19:19.46 | rto | elenril: apt-cache policy libc6 should "enlighten" you |
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| 19:21.10 | phil0u | rto: hmm it have 2.6.1.6 actually |
| 19:21.42 | elenril | rto, http://pastebin.ca/793929 |
| 19:21.55 | rto | phil0u: Can't you just force it then: apt-get install libc6/testing (or whatever the Ubuntu name is) |
| 19:21.57 | elenril | nothing really enlightening |
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| 19:23.21 | dutchfish | how can i start a shell command from within a bash script in th ebackground, running on debian? |
| 19:23.24 | rto | elenril: It looks like the experimental one that phil0u is having troubles with could come from Debian experimental |
| 19:23.30 | rto | dutchfish: use & |
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| 19:24.30 | dutchfish | rto, let me rephrase a bash commmand with parameters started in the background like `ls -la` |
| 19:25.03 | rto | dutchfish: It should be as simple as adding & to the end of the comand: ls -la & |
| 19:25.09 | kiiz | does debian support dial up modems |
| 19:25.17 | dutchfish | rto, within th ebackticks? |
| 19:25.34 | asg | kiiz: as long as they are real modems and not winmodems, yes |
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| 19:25.56 | tralala | dutchfish, without backticks, just & at the end |
| 19:26.10 | rto | dutchfish: Oh, you want the output of the command too, not sure how to do that - you might have to redirect the output somewhere else and then use the output later. |
| 19:26.11 | phil0u | rto: could this package could have slipped from experimental to unstable ? because i sure don't use "experimental" |
| 19:26.15 | dutchfish | tralala, `la -la &` |
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| 19:26.32 | tralala | dutchfish, did you miss the part "without backticks"? |
| 19:26.37 | ross` | whats the apt-get install package for mysql |
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| 19:26.49 | asg | ross`: apt-cache search mysql |
| 19:27.02 | dutchfish | tralala, without the backticks it wont execute ... duh |
| 19:27.14 | tralala | of course it will |
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| 19:27.28 | logd | !efs |
| 19:27.29 | dpkg | it has been said that efs is at http://aeschi.ch.eu.org/efs/ (Extent File System support (read-only)) or emacs' integrated FTP client |
| 19:27.33 | Surfing-Geek | what do I need to do inorder to get my belkin usb wirless card working |
| 19:27.44 | logd | !info efs |
| 19:27.55 | dutchfish | tralala, ill try hold on |
| 19:28.00 | rto | phil0u: I don't follow unstable myself (i've settled for testing) - but it doesn't sound like something that would be in unstable. |
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| 19:28.14 | Mark17 | how can i mount my harddisc on a livecd so i can fix problems? |
| 19:28.38 | kiiz | whats is the diffrenece bw a real moderm and a winmoderm |
| 19:28.39 | cast | Mark17: man mount |
| 19:28.45 | Surfing-Geek | mount /dev/had /mnt/whatever |
| 19:28.46 | rto | Mark17: mount /dev/hda1 /media/some_dir (replace hda1 with your harddrive) |
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| 19:28.57 | th0rv4ld | Happy Thanksgiving, for those of us in the US. |
| 19:28.58 | Surfing-Geek | hda* |
| 19:29.04 | cast | kiiz: a winmodem offloads work to the cpu, thus requires special drivers |
| 19:29.05 | phil0u | rto: ok, well i need to figure how why the "locales" packages from unstable references glibc-2.7.1 ( which isn't available, and as such "locales" won't install) |
| 19:29.10 | rto | Surfing-Geek: :-) had means "hate" in danish |
| 19:29.22 | th0rv4ld | Every time I install a module with apt, it gives me another kernel image. |
| 19:29.27 | th0rv4ld | Is this normal? |
| 19:29.30 | rto | phil0u: What version is locales ? |
| 19:29.33 | Surfing-Geek | rto: it's a typo correction plugin |
| 19:29.46 | elenril | phil0u, just use aptitude to downgrade everything libc6-related to 2.6.x and be happy :) |
| 19:30.04 | dutchfish | tralala, it hangs after the execute and the output is now redirected to standard output wich isnt what i want |
| 19:30.05 | salvin | kiiz, what's a moderm? |
| 19:30.17 | Mark17 | and how to mount it without write protection? |
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| 19:30.25 | Surfing-Geek | rto: what do I need to do to get wireless workin on 4.0r1 |
| 19:30.26 | rto | Mark17: -o rw |
| 19:30.26 | phil0u | rto: apt-cache show locales gives Status: deinstall ok config-files , Version: 2.6.1-6 , Depends: glibc-2.6-1 ?! |
| 19:31.06 | salvin | Mark17, mount -w |
| 19:31.11 | tralala | dutchfish, what is it that you want? |
| 19:31.14 | phil0u | elenril: i'll try aptitude and see what it says |
| 19:31.15 | rto | phil0u: Hmm, so it looks like a non issue? Is something else trying to drag in glibc 2.7.1 ? |
| 19:31.38 | ross` | asg: i couldnt find a package that was jsut mysql |
| 19:31.48 | rto | Surfing-Geek: On testing it Just Works(tm) with network manager with my intel chip |
| 19:31.58 | dutchfish | tralala, read the output in a variable for further examination, but it must run in the background, so the script can continue with other tasks |
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| 19:32.12 | darkbahamut | does anyone here use VisualBoyAdvance GBA Emulator? |
| 19:32.18 | kiiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.22 | Surfing-Geek | rto: im using a Belkin Wireless G USB card :/ |
| 19:32.25 | ross` | asg: im trying to get mysql to get php222 to work.. so... shol di apt-get install phpmyadmin along with the mysql base package |
| 19:32.32 | ross` | and i still dont know what the base package is asg |
| 19:32.34 | tralala | dutchfish, and how will you know when the variable is ready for examination? |
| 19:32.37 | phil0u | rto: http://pastebin.ca/793938 |
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| 19:33.16 | dutchfish | tralala, i can watch th ebackground process till its done? |
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| 19:33.23 | xingu | tralala: with wait! :) |
| 19:33.33 | tralala | xingu, :) |
| 19:33.39 | dutchfish | hi xingu |
| 19:33.56 | rto | phil0u: What does apt-cache policy locales give you? |
| 19:33.56 | xingu | hola |
| 19:34.18 | benje | hello is there a bug with eth interface ? dmesg see ione card as eth1 but when i try to set up i have no such devices ( i can start it as eth2 ) but nothing about this in dmesg ? |
| 19:34.19 | tralala | dutchfish, why does it have to be a variable and not a file? |
| 19:34.19 | wols_ | kiiz: if it uses a serial line it shouldn't need drivers |
| 19:34.30 | benje | is it a dmesg bug or else ? |
| 19:34.40 | wols_ | kiiz: run minicom, and try "atz" |
| 19:34.43 | Mark17 | in /dev/ are all harddiscs present? |
| 19:34.51 | rto | Surfing-Geek: Have you found the kernel module to use? |
| 19:34.52 | darkbahamut | wols_: hey |
| 19:34.54 | phil0u | rto: Installed: (none) , Candidate: 2.7-0exp6 |
| 19:35.07 | tralala | benje, probably udev renames it |
| 19:35.17 | Surfing-Geek | rto: im unsure what module I need to use :/ |
| 19:35.21 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: what wlan chip? |
| 19:35.23 | tralala | benje, grep -r eth2 /etc/udev/ |
| 19:35.25 | darkbahamut | happy turkey day everyone |
| 19:35.26 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: lspci |
| 19:35.39 | dutchfish | tralala, there is not 1 bg process spawned but a few hundred, so disk io will slow it down too much, the backgorund process is actually more complicate then just a `ls -la`, mmm i need to overthink it again |
| 19:35.39 | benje | tralala, i have one eth1 before thanks i go to see this |
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| 19:35.49 | th0rv4ld | I'm trying to install gspca-modules-2.6.18-4-686, but in every mirror I use, it says it's a broken package. |
| 19:35.57 | Surfing-Geek | wols_: the card isn't pci |
| 19:36.04 | wols_ | !tell th0rv4ld about bat |
| 19:36.08 | wols_ | Simoneloco: what is it then? |
| 19:36.20 | rto | phil0u: Ok, sounds like your sources.list is missing an entry for a "normal" source - 2.7.1 sounds experimental. |
| 19:36.23 | phil0u | rto: well : /var/lib/dpkg/status says 2.6.1-6 , and http.us.debian.org says 2.7-0exp6 |
| 19:36.24 | tralala | dutchfish, if you're trying asyncronous programming in bash you're probably on the wrong track |
| 19:36.39 | dutchfish | tralala, got that hunch already, yes |
| 19:36.45 | darkbahamut | what do i do if i installed something but i cant find it or run it? |
| 19:36.58 | dutchfish | tralala, gona convert this one to c ... mmm |
| 19:37.01 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what did you install? dpkg -L packagename |grep bin |
| 19:37.13 | tralala | dutchfish, I'd suggest python |
| 19:37.32 | darkbahamut | wols_: i installed VisualBoyAdvance from synaptics |
| 19:37.32 | phil0u | rto: well i have my same Unstable sources.list for years, never had (too many :)) problems |
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| 19:37.49 | rto | phil0u: http://packages.debian.org/libc6 says that the unstable version is 2.6.1 |
| 19:37.51 | wols_ | darkbahamut: as I said: dpkg -L <packagename> |grep bin |
| 19:37.53 | dutchfish | tracer, can python do this, because the bash script is altered by another program continuesly, so thats why its hard to do in c |
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| 19:38.08 | jelly-home | dutchfish: eww. |
| 19:38.23 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what are you doing? sounds nasty |
| 19:38.31 | tralala | wols_, which will work fine unless it's a game |
| 19:38.45 | wols_ | tralala: hm? |
| 19:38.45 | phil0u | rto: ok, somethings looks wicked with my package repository then |
| 19:38.45 | th0rv4ld | wols_ http://pastebin.com/d5c73db16 |
| 19:38.47 | darkbahamut | wols_: its a gba emulator |
| 19:38.54 | wols_ | darkbahamut: I know what it is |
| 19:38.55 | benje | thanks tralala i have the last mac in ;) |
| 19:38.55 | dutchfish | its not a game but a fast breeder algorithm |
| 19:39.06 | Mark17 | lets see if this works |
| 19:39.06 | tralala | benje, you're welcome |
| 19:39.07 | rto | phil0u: Sometimes apt-get install (without a package name) gives something useful. |
| 19:39.17 | darkbahamut | wols_: its gameboy advance for pc |
| 19:39.17 | rpoisel | hi! is it possible to compile a linux kernel in several processes, e.g. to let it make use of more than one of my cores in my CPU? |
| 19:39.27 | wols_ | !info http://pastebin.com/d5c73db16 |
| 19:39.35 | wols_ | !info gspca-modules-2.6.18-5-686 etch |
| 19:39.40 | dpkg | gspca-modules-2.6.18-5-686: (gspca video for linux (v4l) driver modules for Linux 2.6.18 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.18+01.00.04-7+etch3 (etch), Packaged size: 96 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 19:39.43 | phil0u | rto: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 217 not upgraded |
| 19:39.53 | wols_ | dubbaluga: yes |
| 19:39.55 | tralala | wols_, game binaries often reside in /usr/games (as in no bin) |
| 19:40.05 | wols_ | tralala: why do you tell me this? |
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| 19:40.09 | jelly-home | rpoisel: yes. man make (-j option), man make-kpkg (search for CONCURRENCY_LEVEL) |
| 19:40.09 | rto | phil0u: And i guess an upgrade doesn't help either? |
| 19:40.12 | dutchfish | tralala, can ror do this too? |
| 19:40.16 | th0rv4ld | wols_: It's a wrap-around for a webcam. Mine is supposed to be supported by the module. |
| 19:40.31 | phil0u | rto: it will upgrade other packages but choke on "locales" |
| 19:40.32 | dubbaluga | wols_: so is it possible to pass the "-j" switch to make of the kernel-building process? |
| 19:40.37 | darkbahamut | wols_: you know what gba is right? |
| 19:40.38 | wols_ | th0rv4ld: dpkg told you what to use. not the -4-686 package |
| 19:40.43 | wols_ | darkbahamut: yes |
| 19:40.53 | dubbaluga | jelly-home: thx, i'll try that! |
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| 19:41.00 | darkbahamut | wols_: just checking :D |
| 19:41.02 | tralala | dutchfish, what is it exactly that you're doing? |
| 19:41.04 | wols_ | dubbaluga: read what jelly-home said |
| 19:41.21 | Mark17 | at what places is information stored about the root file system? |
| 19:41.37 | jelly-home | dubbaluga: I builds my kernels on a dualcore for great justice. |
| 19:41.44 | rto | phil0u: Ok, let's go back to the policy stuff, there should be some numbers next to the different repository paths. These values are the priority of the different repositories - does that give a hint of anything? |
| 19:42.14 | dutchfish | tralala, i need to run .. say a script .. or spawn a process thats altered continously by another program, i want to run in the background or as a childs process and control from a main binary |
| 19:42.31 | dubbaluga | wols_: ok, thx, i didn't recognize it first |
| 19:42.35 | tralala | dutchfish, alter in what way and why? |
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| 19:42.41 | tralala | altered |
| 19:43.04 | phil0u | rto: 500 for both my local repository and http.us.debian.org and 100 for /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 19:43.10 | tralala | wols_, because of the grep bin thingie |
| 19:43.34 | dubbaluga | jelly-home: WOW :) that's really great justice, thank you!! :) |
| 19:43.36 | dutchfish | tralala, the code in each child is generated from a main binary, but depends on its state, so it is diferent every time |
| 19:43.53 | dubbaluga | jelly-home: (building it on a quadcore) |
| 19:44.11 | tralala | dutchfish, does it change (the code) while running? |
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| 19:44.35 | dutchfish | tralala, no, every child however unique doesnt change its code when in runtime |
| 19:44.40 | rto | phil0u: And http.us.debian.org was the one insisting on 2.7.1? |
| 19:44.51 | tralala | dutchfish, python is pretty good at dynamic stuff |
| 19:45.02 | jelly-home | tralala: can it eval? |
| 19:45.04 | dutchfish | tralala, can ruby do this too? |
| 19:45.26 | phil0u | rto: both my repo and http.us.debian.org yes |
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| 19:45.32 | rto | jelly-home: Python eval's fine. |
| 19:45.49 | rto | phil0u: Hmm, and you sure that the http.us.debian.org one doesn't point to experimental? |
| 19:46.12 | phil0u | rto: good question i'll double check right now |
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| 19:46.28 | Mark17 | something went wrong when i start debian, it has a problem with mounting/making the root file system |
| 19:46.33 | Mark17 | without an error it stops |
| 19:46.36 | tralala | jelly-home, yes, but it won't be needed |
| 19:46.50 | tralala | dutchfish, probably |
| 19:46.51 | dutchfish | tralala, jelly-home thx for your suggestions :) |
| 19:46.52 | Mark17 | in what file can i fix it (i am on the harddisc using a livecd) |
| 19:47.10 | Mark17 | dutchfish: still at work? |
| 19:47.20 | rto | Mark17: Maybe you should give it a nice fsck'ing? |
| 19:47.23 | tralala | dutchfish, you're welcome |
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| 19:47.54 | dutchfish | Mark17, not yet ;) |
| 19:48.03 | dwu_ | how do you force kernel to disconnect your USB device? |
| 19:48.05 | tralala | dutchfish, one more thing - is the code of the children generated at runtime or selected from a pre-defined set? |
| 19:48.09 | dutchfish | Mark17, playing and learning |
| 19:48.11 | dwu_ | i will pay cash for asnwer |
| 19:48.24 | phil0u | rto: http://pastebin.ca/793963 |
| 19:48.26 | dutchfish | tralala, its totally generated at runtime |
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| 19:49.04 | dutchfish | tralala, actually its a genetic algoritm in c |
| 19:49.26 | Mark17 | rto: fsck isnt working for the file system (not supported for ext3 looks it), i use knoppix as a livecd to connect |
| 19:49.34 | phil0u | rto: on http.us.debian.org, unstable points to sid, which looks correct to me |
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| 19:49.47 | darkbahamut | wols_: woa that command is usefull, writing down now :D |
| 19:49.55 | rto | phil0u: Absolutely, everything looks correct to me. |
| 19:49.59 | xingu | dutchfish: linux tmpfs is surprisingly quick, when it comes to io completions. :) |
| 19:50.10 | rto | Mark17: doesn't it have a fsck.ext3 command? |
| 19:50.18 | xingu | dutchfish: but `` operators aren't |
| 19:50.25 | dutchfish | xingu, i am expirimenting with ramdisks |
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| 19:50.51 | dutchfish | xingu, but that slows down more then it brings, surprisingly |
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| 19:50.53 | th0rv4ld | FUCK YOU, DPKG. |
| 19:50.54 | darkbahamut | wols_: but its nothing nasty its just GBA you can even check synaptics if you dont beleive me |
| 19:51.09 | tralala | dutchfish, http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/199121 |
| 19:51.16 | Mark17 | rto it gives the error not a correct ext2 filesystem |
| 19:51.19 | Mark17 | but it is ext3 |
| 19:51.22 | Mark17 | so no ext2 |
| 19:51.39 | Mark17 | is there an other option? |
| 19:51.47 | xingu | dutchfish: what you want, is to read up on _any_ language, that implements threads, and eval |
| 19:51.47 | rto | Mark17: Are you sure you are pointing to the correct hda? - the first might be the swap partition. |
| 19:51.56 | Mark17 | rto: yes |
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| 19:51.56 | xingu | dutchfish: hell, even perl can do this more sensibly |
| 19:51.57 | th0rv4ld | Can somebody tell me why whenever I install a kernel module with apt that it installs a COMPLETELY NEW KERNEL? |
| 19:52.10 | Mark17 | i mounted it on /mnt and i can see the normall directories |
| 19:52.16 | th0rv4ld | I have five kernels listed in my boot menu. |
| 19:52.21 | Mark17 | /home /usr /etc for example |
| 19:52.22 | th0rv4ld | This is starting to piss me off. |
| 19:52.34 | dutchfish | xingu, i rather would choose perl then, my expertise on python is zilch |
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| 19:52.39 | kupesoft | th0rv4ld: omg! too many kernels?! |
| 19:52.40 | Mark17 | th0rv4ld: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:52.58 | dutchfish | xingu, exactly |
| 19:52.58 | Mark17 | you can remove them there |
| 19:53.07 | xingu | dutchfish: unlike tralala, I won't be peppering you with recipies. :) but eval is a useful tool... |
| 19:53.11 | phil0u | rto: my repo has .../debian/pool/main/g/glibc/glibc_2.7-0exp6.dsc |
| 19:53.12 | cahoot | th0rv4ld: what exactly do you type? |
| 19:53.27 | dutchfish | xingu, i will delve into, thx :) |
| 19:53.35 | tralala | with python I don't think you need to resort to eval |
| 19:53.37 | th0rv4ld | Can somebody please help me get this webcam to work? I installed the gspca module, and it made no change to anything. |
| 19:53.44 | wols_ | th0rv4ld: I already told you to install the module for your kernel and not some other kernel |
| 19:53.44 | th0rv4ld | I'm about to install Windows. |
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| 19:54.08 | wols_ | th0rv4ld: what did dmesg say after you modprobed the module? |
| 19:54.17 | cahoot | th0rv4ld: that intended to induce sympathy? |
| 19:54.20 | Surfing-Geek | what cmd do I run to probe for connected usb devices |
| 19:54.23 | rto | phil0u: Hmm, that might be your problem, try commenting out your own repo and update'ing |
| 19:54.37 | rto | Surfing-Geek: lsusb |
| 19:54.38 | phil0u | rto: will try , thanks |
| 19:55.13 | rto | phil0u: no problem, what does your own repo hold? Is it one of those cacheing solutions? |
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| 19:55.50 | Surfing-Geek | Bus 001 Device 009: ID 050d:705c Belkin Components <-- what would that devices id be, as in "usb0" |
| 19:56.29 | phil0u | rto: my repo is basically a mirror of http.us.debian.org, that i sync with regularly ( several machines here, saving bandwith) |
| 19:56.37 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: undetermined. basically nothing until your load the driver |
| 19:56.44 | wols_ | at which point it's eth0 or such |
| 19:57.08 | Surfing-Geek | eth0 is built in, this is a wifi card, I have the module loaded. |
| 19:57.13 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: you will need the zd1211b |
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| 19:57.27 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: do you have the firmware too? what does dmesg say? what does ifconfig -a say? |
| 19:57.54 | Surfing-Geek | pastebin? |
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| 19:58.04 | wols_ | sure |
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| 19:58.21 | th0rv4ld | wols_: How do I run modprobe for this? |
| 19:58.49 | rto | phil0u: I tried something similar once, couldn't get it to work, now i just have one machine. |
| 19:58.53 | wols_ | th0rv4ld: didn't you say you have the driver alrady loaded? |
| 19:59.03 | wols_ | did you *gasp*, lie to us? |
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| 19:59.29 | wols_ | dpkg -L <package> |grep module |
| 19:59.29 | dpkg | No packages found matching <package> |grep module |
| 19:59.31 | th0rv4ld | wols_: I thought apt/dpkg did it automatically. |
| 19:59.35 | wols_ | dpkg: shuddup |
| 19:59.35 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 19:59.36 | Surfing-Geek | here's dmesg |
| 19:59.42 | Surfing-Geek | http://pastebin.ca/793973 |
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| 20:00.14 | rto | dpkg: I found it funny |
| 20:00.23 | wols_ | Surfing-Geek: "usbcore: registered new driver rt2570" ? |
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| 20:00.29 | Surfing-Geek | wifi card |
| 20:01.10 | Surfing-Geek | http://pastebin.ca/793974 ifconfig -a |
| 20:01.22 | cusco | hello dudes... I know Im not in the right place to ask... but Im looking for a decent hosting companny to host me a virtual server.... any ideas? |
| 20:01.36 | Surfing-Geek | wrong channel |
| 20:01.42 | cusco | yea I know |
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| 20:02.37 | xingu | tralala: probably not; but perl eval { ... }; blocks are surprisingly well behaved little things. |
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| 20:02.45 | tralala | cusco, "decent" is pretty vague. I like tektonic.net |
| 20:02.58 | rto | cusco: hak5 recommends dreamhost |
| 20:03.14 | xingu | tralala: some day I'll have to try tie'ing one into a hash to see if I can turn them into serialised objects :) |
| 20:03.14 | cusco | by decent I mean... trustable.. not one of those that disapper quick! and ofcourse with debian |
| 20:03.20 | acu01 | Guys I need some advise - I have bought a new HP Pavilioan laptop with AMD turion 64 bit - it has an NvidiaNforce network card Nvidia, broadcom 1490 wireless and HP webcam - I do not care to run the latest sofware versions - I would gladly use etch - however etch does not recognizes NVIDIA Nforce -so I was force to use lenny - which is obviously on the move and not with everything ready - My question is whether I have some other option? - now |
| 20:03.21 | acu01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.40 | cast | nforce what? |
| 20:03.47 | ErichK | Hey guys, I followed the guide here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-and-enable-compiz-in-debian/ to try and get compiz working, but now when I log in, it's a blank screen with only a mouse and a colored background, any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 20:03.47 | wols_ | acu01: it can be done. you can even use 2.6.23 with etch |
| 20:03.48 | cast | nforce 1/2/3/4/5 all run fine in etch |
| 20:03.55 | tralala | xingu, could be, but since I learned python, perl has lost favour in my eyes |
| 20:04.18 | dutchfish | xingu, why not use fpla's for this? ;) |
| 20:05.27 | tralala | althought I'd still use it if I find myslef in need of a complex awk programme |
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| 20:06.22 | jelly-home | yeh, python's handling of regexpen isn't that nice |
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| 20:07.24 | jelly-home | though I hate when crucial bits of the system depend on an unusual interpreted language. |
| 20:07.26 | tralala | indeed - it seems that they are there for showing off, but are better avoided |
| 20:07.59 | tralala | there are a few things I hate more than C |
| 20:08.13 | tziku | hello, any utility to see what is a user do ? I want to see in real time what command use a user, if edit something to see what and how edit. I want to see everithing is do in REAL time. Thanks (I know is an utility watch on FreeBSD , i try on debian but i don't know hot to use) Thanks |
| 20:08.19 | jelly-home | pet peeve: install a base system. apt-listchanges? depends python. apt-listbugs? depends ruby. ffs. |
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| 20:08.40 | tralala | but vast bash programmes are a serious competitor |
| 20:09.03 | jelly-home | esp. bash programs starting with #!/bin/sh |
| 20:09.27 | acu01 | wols_ can you point me how to start ? - I initially installed Muto's backport - I just wonder, sometimes apps on etch require a specific kernel (I might be wrong - that is why I am asking) |
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| 20:09.46 | wols_ | acu01: apps don't bu kernel modules do |
| 20:10.03 | acu01 | OK, so is not that a problem ? |
| 20:10.11 | wols_ | what you will need ot do is install the kmuto kernel headers and then use m-a to compile those modules yourself for your kernel |
| 20:10.13 | cusco | tralala: thanks thats a quite cheap option. Just what I needed! thansk again :D |
| 20:10.14 | wols_ | that's all |
| 20:10.37 | tralala | cusco, you're welcome |
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| 20:11.13 | acu01 | wols_ OK seem so easy :) ----- Everything in computer is too easy if you know it, impossible if you don't :) |
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| 20:12.19 | evilsporkman | why can't other apps play sound while a java program is using the sound device? i'm using alsa |
| 20:12.20 | tralala | acu01, you're on your way to learn it, so soon it's to become easy for you :) |
| 20:12.21 | xingu | jelly-home: almost as annoying as tcsh programs starting with #!/bin/csh |
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| 20:12.25 | spike | hi there |
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| 20:12.52 | spike | can anybody point me to a doc on how to use interfaces to setup a wireless nic in master mode? |
| 20:13.21 | draeath | I remember teh woody installer prompted you to add extra CDs into it (via apt-cdrom) - the etch installer does not do this. Is there a way I can make my other discs available to apt, debootstrap, tasksel, etc. during installation? |
| 20:13.25 | acu01 | tralala: the learning curve is still steep - many develop heart failure and die :) |
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| 20:14.10 | tralala | acu01, okay if you plan to live forever maybe you should avoid computers ;) |
| 20:14.13 | draeath | I tried doing it manually from chroot (to /target) but it always detected binary disc 1, no matter what was actually in the drive. |
| 20:14.14 | acu01 | wols_ so what is m-a (maybe I can do a test-run to see if I am inteligent enough before I jump) |
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| 20:14.23 | acu01 | tralala: you got me :) |
| 20:14.25 | kiiz | i tried downloading a kernel source but each time it get corrupt. is the gz archive more stable than bz2 archive |
| 20:14.35 | tralala | acu01, m-a is module assistant |
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| 20:14.45 | draeath | stable? its a binary file just like the other |
| 20:14.52 | tralala | install it, and read the docs |
| 20:14.53 | draeath | make sure your not downloading over FTP in ASCII mode |
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| 20:15.31 | acu01 | tralala: thanks |
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| 20:18.07 | acu01 | man, I always take part of the underdog - I got this AMD64 turion laptop - it flies - however I am frustrated - the marrillat repository do not bring anything I used to have - specially w32codec, realplayer - worst - I cannot use the wirelless nor the built in webcam - I feel that I have to reinvent the universe from scratch |
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| 20:18.30 | draeath | so does anyone know about adding extra media to apt during install? |
| 20:19.17 | draeath | woody used to prompt for it, but etch doesnt (dont know about sarge) |
| 20:19.33 | code_ | hi, do you know how i can apt-get avr-libc on testing ? |
| 20:19.54 | bzed | draeath: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list after you've installed the base system |
| 20:19.57 | draeath | acu01 thats cause you are on AMD64. all that w32 crap are windows binaries. |
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| 20:20.30 | draeath | bzed: i want the packages available to tasksel and such during install |
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| 20:20.46 | bzed | draeath: you'll have to create your own installer then |
| 20:20.49 | draeath | bzed: i can already use "apt-cdrom add" after install, but then I have to go muck around |
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| 20:20.53 | bzed | code_: apt-get install avr-libc |
| 20:21.46 | draeath | bzed, well, how can I add it into cache when the installer is running? i tried chrooting in but it detected binary disc 1 every time. |
| 20:21.51 | code_ | bzed: thank you, but did you try it before on lenny ? no :) it is in unstable only |
| 20:21.52 | databuddy | happy turkey day from ter NEKOZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 20:22.21 | draeath | hmm. it USED to be included in the installer, not sure why they took it out. |
| 20:22.36 | bzed | code_: well, eithe rwait or port it to lenny then |
| 20:22.54 | bzed | code_: and indeed, I didn;t check if it's in lenny yet |
| 20:23.25 | bzed | code_: normalyl you can just install the deb from unstable, shouldn't make a difference for that package as it depends on nothing |
| 20:23.52 | draeath | its not an emergency or anything, just irritating |
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| 20:23.53 | code_ | there should be something like backport, can you tell what line i should add to sources.list ? i am failing to find it. |
| 20:24.14 | drbobb | hello, how do i find out whether the php debs are compiled with large file support? |
| 20:24.23 | bzed | code_: http://packages.debian.org |
| 20:24.25 | draeath | bzed, besides, you dont add cd's in sources.list :P |
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| 20:24.36 | bzed | draeath: you can also do that |
| 20:25.14 | bzed | code_: just download it from the links provided there and install it with dpkg -i. or wait the fwe days until it hits testing |
| 20:26.04 | Mark17 | in what file does debian store the root filesystem information? |
| 20:26.20 | Tramp | !tell code_ about backports |
| 20:26.27 | tziku | hello, any utility to see what is a user do ? I want to see in real time what command use a user, if edit something to see what and how edit. I want to see everithing is do in REAL time. Thanks (I know is an utility watch on FreeBSD , i try on debian but i don't know hot to use) Thanks |
| 20:27.18 | bzed | code_: you should send a mail to the maintainer and ask him to ask for rescheduling the build on s390, so it'll go into testing |
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| 20:27.57 | draeath | anyone know if it would be overly complicated to set up a mirror from the install DVDs? |
| 20:28.03 | draeath | (local mirror for my use) |
| 20:28.24 | cast | tziku: can do that with screen and prob dtach, if they cooperate. ttysnoop does similar |
| 20:28.28 | code_ | bzed: thanks, good idea, i tried to install that from source before, but no luck. suprisingly, your dpkg way worked ! |
| 20:28.55 | tziku | thanks cast |
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| 20:29.13 | bzed | code_: that way should work for all packages with no dependencies ;) |
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| 20:32.28 | Mark17 | how can i fsck a whole disc and not just a journal (on an ext3 filesystem) |
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| 20:33.44 | cast | Au |
| 20:33.49 | cast | uh, wrong window |
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| 20:34.14 | rdhare | anyone here familiar with Gimp? |
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| 20:35.25 | cast | !anyone |
| 20:35.25 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 20:35.33 | ross` | how do i access phpmyadmin on debian linux |
| 20:35.36 | bzed | cast: gone for good :) |
| 20:35.45 | cast | ahh. |
| 20:36.02 | ross` | how do i access phpmyadmin on debian |
| 20:36.08 | ross` | after i aptget install phpmyadmin |
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| 20:36.46 | yang | If I have 1Gb of memory, which memory sum is calculated from "top" command - Virt/RES/SHR ? |
| 20:36.50 | Mark17 | ross`: go to: http://yourip/phpmyadmin |
| 20:36.56 | ross` | that didnt work.. |
| 20:37.03 | ross` | apache is working.. |
| 20:37.13 | Mark17 | ross`: go to: http://yourip/phpMyAdmin |
| 20:37.18 | Mark17 | how did you install apache? |
| 20:37.30 | cast | and php |
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| 20:38.05 | yang | ross`: do you see apache website with http://<your ip> ? |
| 20:38.09 | eth01 | always do, php* before you install apache (if using apt-get).. |
| 20:38.23 | Mark17 | how long should a 80gb harddisc take to fsck? |
| 20:38.34 | eth01 | otherwise the .configs could conflict. |
| 20:38.37 | yang | Mark17: depends on how much damage there is |
| 20:38.48 | yang | Mark17: usually 5 min. |
| 20:39.05 | ross` | yang with my website i see my website :P i vhosted it to /var/www/serenity |
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| 20:39.35 | Mark17 | lets see if it did help |
| 20:39.48 | ross` | nope... |
| 20:39.53 | jelly-home | Mark17, yang: I'd say it also depends on the fs structure. If you have 5M small files there, it'll take longer. |
| 20:39.56 | ross` | all i see.. is.. page not found |
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| 20:40.23 | Mark17 | jelly-home: around 2 miljoen files, but it is done |
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| 20:40.31 | Mark17 | 10 minutes |
| 20:40.38 | Mark17 | i guess |
| 20:40.42 | ross` | someone help me please.. |
| 20:40.47 | ross` | how do i get this workin >< |
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| 20:41.11 | Mark17 | begin waiting for root filesystem << how long should that take (during startup)? |
| 20:41.33 | ross` | Mark17: how do i set where phpmyadmin is vhosted too |
| 20:41.45 | themill | !waiting for the root filesystem |
| 20:41.46 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> |
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| 20:42.05 | ross` | cause http://serenity.kwzs.be/phpmyadmin is not found |
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| 20:42.07 | ross` | !phpmyadmin |
| 20:42.07 | dpkg | somebody said phpmyadmin was a tool written in PHP intended to handle the administration of MySQL over the Internet. Currently it can create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/#faq |
| 20:42.27 | DA-Laptop | !kp mantra |
| 20:42.27 | dpkg | somebody said kp mantra was make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 20:42.30 | ross` | yea yea yea i kno |
| 20:42.34 | Mark17 | ross`: look in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 20:42.40 | ross` | ok.. |
| 20:42.41 | Mark17 | or something similair |
| 20:42.45 | HardDisk_WP | who maintains the Nvidia drivers? |
| 20:42.48 | Mark17 | !can't mount root |
| 20:42.48 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
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| 20:43.00 | themill | ross`: I've only just joined. What's your problem? |
| 20:43.03 | ross` | ok im there |
| 20:43.16 | ross` | themill: i did apt-get install phpmyadmin and i cant access it for some reason |
| 20:43.25 | ross` | i also have mysql-server |
| 20:43.38 | drbobb | hello, pls help me figure out whether debian php packages have large file support compiled in?? |
| 20:44.04 | Mark17 | drbobb: for as far as i know it is not included |
| 20:44.11 | train` | ross`, the easiest way to see where you should link/put phpmyadmin, is looking at your apache error log |
| 20:44.22 | ross` | hwo do i do that |
| 20:44.35 | train` | it should say to you, where it expects to find what your're trying to open |
| 20:44.48 | Mark17 | it is located in /var/log/ |
| 20:44.53 | train` | ross`, look at /var/log/apache/ |
| 20:44.58 | ross` | i mean it SHOULD work.. except when i did apt-get install phpmyinstall i dont believe i selected apache2.. and i tried reapt-getting it and i never saw that selection ahha\\gain |
| 20:45.13 | ross` | i tried selecting it but i hit enter |
| 20:45.19 | ross` | and i think that continued instad of selecting |
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| 20:45.30 | train` | ross`, apt-get install phpmyadmin doesn't do the trick, you should link it to your web root |
| 20:45.40 | ross` | ok |
| 20:45.41 | HardDisk_WP | anyone here knows how to compile alsa with custom debian kernels |
| 20:45.45 | ross` | one sec.. im looking at logs |
| 20:45.50 | themill | ross`: do you have a link in /var/www/ for phpmyadmin? |
| 20:45.53 | ross` | one sec.. im looking at logs |
| 20:46.00 | Mark17 | train`: or change your webroot to the phpmyadmin dir ;) |
| 20:46.13 | ross` | no i dont have a link for phpmyadmin.. in /var/www |
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| 20:46.31 | train` | ross`, just do it. nike. |
| 20:46.31 | drbobb | Mark17: i looked all over the place, a comment in /usr/share/doc/php5/NEWS.Debian.gz seemed to imply LFS is compiled in |
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| 20:46.56 | drbobb | but i need to check it somehow, cause it seems not to work for me |
| 20:47.13 | ross` | ok.. so what do i do that |
| 20:47.13 | themill | ross`: you might also like to ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/ |
| 20:47.15 | ross` | then* |
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| 20:47.24 | ross` | huh? |
| 20:47.29 | ross` | what? |
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| 20:47.37 | ross` | ok tell me what to do first |
| 20:47.48 | train` | ross`, you didn't say what are your error.log is saying |
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| 20:48.13 | themill | and train`'s suggestion was to ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ /var/www/ |
| 20:48.28 | strui | Hello, I have a laptop fujitsu lifebook 6120, but on X if I try to use shift + pageup I get ;2A and shift + pagedown ;2B, any idea how to enable such keys to work? (pageup/down using xterm in that case) |
| 20:48.38 | themill | ross`: After that, invoke-rc.d apache2 reload |
| 20:48.49 | ross` | um.. its confusing me.. also /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf has this in it |
| 20:48.51 | ross` | Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin |
| 20:48.52 | ross` | <Directory /usr/share/phpmyadmin> |
| 20:49.07 | train` | ross`, show me the output of grep -i phpmyadm /var/log/apache2/error.log | tail -n 1 |
| 20:49.24 | Mark17 | how long should begin waiting for root file system.... take? and no i didnt upgrade my kernel in any other way than apt-get upgrade |
| 20:49.36 | themill | ross`: are you using etch? |
| 20:49.39 | ross` | ? |
| 20:49.41 | ross` | um |
| 20:49.45 | ross` | whats the command again? |
| 20:49.49 | ross` | whats etch |
| 20:49.49 | ross` | >< |
| 20:49.53 | Mark17 | ross`: which debian version do you use? |
| 20:49.53 | train` | grep -i phpmyadm /var/log/apache2/error.log | tail -n 1 |
| 20:50.04 | themill | ross`: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:50.04 | Mark17 | cat /etc/debian_version if i am correct |
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| 20:50.24 | ross` | [Thu Nov 22 03:08:29 2007] [error] [client 12.76.149.156] File does not exist: /var/www/serenity/phpmyadmin |
| 20:50.42 | train` | ross`, ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/serenity/ |
| 20:50.48 | train` | end of story. |
| 20:50.50 | Mark17 | ross`: how did you access phpmyadmin (what link did you use)? |
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| 20:51.03 | Mark17 | themill: any idea how i can fix my problem? |
| 20:51.14 | themill | train`: that's not good advice. |
| 20:51.21 | ross` | http://serenity.kwzs.be/phpmyadmin |
| 20:51.37 | Mark17 | ross`: i did say: http://[yourip]/phpmyadmin... |
| 20:51.37 | ross` | serenity.kwzs.be is pointed at /var/www/serenity |
| 20:51.57 | train` | themill, of you got the nerves, how to explain to him, how to edit /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf, save it, the reload apache, be my guest ;-) |
| 20:51.57 | themill | Mark17: did the factoid grub instructions work out? |
| 20:52.01 | ross` | train`: what do i do? |
| 20:52.10 | train` | s/of/if |
| 20:52.11 | Mark17 | themill: no |
| 20:52.11 | ross` | also there is a website on /var/www/serenity that i dont want to replace |
| 20:52.23 | train` | ross`, ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/serenity/ |
| 20:52.40 | ross` | er.. ok? will this overwrite the page thats already there? |
| 20:52.47 | train` | NOPE |
| 20:52.48 | ross` | or will it add phpmyadmin |
| 20:52.49 | themill | train`: he doesn't need to. And doing what you say would expose his phpmyadmin |
| 20:53.17 | Mark17 | just use: http://yourip/phpmyadmin |
| 20:53.27 | train` | themill, my way is not the "correct" way |
| 20:53.29 | ross` | OMG THANK YOU |
| 20:53.33 | ross` | THANAAANAKNAKNAKANKNAKANANAKANK YO!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:53.56 | train` | but he has, I believe, a bigger problems with his host, than phpmyadmin |
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| 20:54.18 | themill | :) |
| 20:54.28 | train` | :) |
| 20:54.34 | Mark17 | themill: changing things in the grub bootloader isnt going to fix my problem |
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| 20:54.37 | train` | after all, he is happy |
| 20:54.50 | train` | Mark17, it will, believe me |
| 20:54.55 | larsl | Is there any way to turn on PC speaker support in gnome-terminal's terminal emulation so that a program can play different frequencies using ioctl calls on stdout? |
| 20:55.19 | Mark17 | train`: i all ready tried that |
| 20:55.21 | themill | Mark17: sorry then... that's the only cause of that problem that I know of and that's the only solution I know. |
| 20:55.22 | larsl | It works in a non-X virtual terminal here, but not in gnome-terminal, even if I turn the "terminal bell" on. |
| 20:55.31 | HardDisk_WP | what could cause a Java program to crash on one machine and run on another, but both run same OS and same java packages? |
| 20:55.37 | HardDisk_WP | (debian testing) |
| 20:55.38 | vbgunz | what is the Debian Live CD password? e.g., kdesu, kcontrol administrative modules AND why doesn't ifconfig work? I need to get the mac address to allow it onto the network |
| 20:55.45 | train` | Mark17, you should know the exact device where your root is |
| 20:55.56 | train` | maybe it is /dev/sdb instead of sda |
| 20:56.10 | Mark17 | train`: /dev/sda1 is used for / |
| 20:56.25 | Mark17 | and it is the first device on the filesystem for as far as i can see |
| 20:56.36 | train` | Mark17, try with /dev/sdb1 |
| 20:56.49 | Mark17 | train`: it only has 1 harddisc |
| 20:56.54 | train` | did you add recently some hardware to your pc? |
| 20:57.06 | petemc | vbgunz: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 20:57.11 | train` | maybe you got some usb flash forgotten somewhere? |
| 20:57.13 | themill | Mark17: is your hard disk SATA? CD? |
| 20:57.17 | vbgunz | petemc: ok will try |
| 20:57.20 | Mark17 | themill: sata |
| 20:57.31 | vbgunz | anyone know the Debian live CD password? |
| 20:57.33 | Mark17 | train`: no |
| 20:57.46 | eth01 | vbgunz: root |
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| 20:58.01 | themill | !live |
| 20:58.01 | dpkg | Debian Live provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live |
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| 20:58.27 | Mark17 | themill: is it important to know? |
| 20:58.30 | bulio | I'm having a problem with CUPS |
| 20:58.34 | vbgunz | eth01: I believe I tried that, will try it again |
| 20:58.34 | train` | Mark17, try with some live cd, see with fdisk -l what devices you got, and how are their names |
| 20:58.49 | bulio | It was working before, but ever since I changed my router to smoothwall it refuses to work |
| 20:59.01 | bulio | I can't access 192.168.0.3:631 |
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| 20:59.09 | bulio | (my cups page) |
| 20:59.12 | bulio | any ideas why? |
| 20:59.23 | themill | bulio: cups only listens on localhost by default |
| 20:59.45 | bulio | themill, i know, I edited it |
| 20:59.46 | Mark17 | train`: /dev/sda1 (boot) (linux) /dev/sda2 (extended) /dev/sda5 (swap) |
| 21:00.02 | Mark17 | do you also need to know the id? |
| 21:00.06 | bulio | nano /etc/cupsd/cupsd.conf |
| 21:00.14 | bulio | */cups |
| 21:00.15 | train` | Mark17, then root should be root=/dev/sda2 ? |
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| 21:00.29 | bulio | Listen 192.168.0.3:631 |
| 21:00.30 | train` | (hd0,1) |
| 21:01.06 | themill | bulio: and you restarted cups after that? |
| 21:01.10 | bulio | yes |
| 21:01.26 | Mark17 | train`: i will try that now |
| 21:01.29 | themill | bulio: does netstat -pant show it listening on 631? |
| 21:01.31 | bulio | I even commented that and localhost out, and added Listen @LOCAL |
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| 21:01.57 | train` | bulio, a quick try iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 631 -j ACCEPT |
| 21:02.43 | train` | then try to open again cups admin page |
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| 21:02.44 | Azar | hello honorables!! |
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| 21:02.53 | bulio | tcp 0 0 192.168.0.3:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7915/cupsd |
| 21:02.56 | themill | !greet Azar |
| 21:02.57 | dpkg | Nihao, Azar |
| 21:02.57 | bulio | its listening |
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| 21:03.07 | bulio | and the 2nd line is 127.0.0.0 |
| 21:03.16 | drbobb | Mark17: duh, to answer my own question: the output php-config --includes implies largefile support is enabled |
| 21:03.22 | Azar | I am thankful today for the new 2007 Debian Reference by Osamu Aoki |
| 21:03.39 | Mark17 | i know what the problem is :S |
| 21:03.44 | drbobb | (too bad it seems not to work) |
| 21:03.45 | bulio | train`, that worked |
| 21:03.48 | bulio | thanks! |
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| 21:04.06 | train` | bulio, it means that you have a firewall blocking that port |
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| 21:04.12 | Mark17 | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-2-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro cannot mount selected partition |
| 21:04.22 | bulio | train`, the debian iptables firewall? |
| 21:04.24 | Mark17 | sdb1 doesnt even exists |
| 21:04.36 | train` | bulio, yes I guess |
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| 21:04.49 | train` | Mark17, /dev/sda2 ? |
| 21:04.51 | bulio | I run smoothwall, but the machine I'm trying to access the page from is on a switch inside the internal network |
| 21:05.10 | train` | bulio, so it is a debian? |
| 21:05.20 | Mark17 | train`: when i do: (hd0,1) it gives that error |
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| 21:05.47 | train` | Mark17, the line kernel /boot/blahblah is more important than (hd0,1) |
| 21:05.58 | Azar | and today I want to give thanks to all brave helpers here: abrotman, wols, simonrvn, dondelecaro, Guerin, Wyzard, and anyone I shamelessly forgot |
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| 21:06.15 | Mark17 | sda1 or sda2? |
| 21:06.26 | train` | sda2, sda1 is your boot partition |
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| 21:07.03 | TiMiDo | hey i have a quick question how do i put a bash theme to be enable by default? |
| 21:07.33 | Mark17 | also not working (so with (hd0,1) and /boot/vmlinux-2.6.21-2-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro |
| 21:07.42 | Azar | TiMiDo: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-shell.html |
| 21:08.13 | TiMiDo | thanks =) |
| 21:08.20 | train` | Mark17, what's the error? |
| 21:08.40 | train` | there's no suck kernel image file vmlinuX, it's vmlinuz |
| 21:08.49 | train` | s/suck/such/ |
| 21:09.02 | Mark17 | the same as before |
| 21:09.07 | Mark17 | the x should be a z |
| 21:09.12 | Mark17 | on my server it is a z |
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| 21:09.21 | Mark17 | i did make a small mistake |
| 21:09.23 | train` | i see |
| 21:10.07 | fabazar | bye |
| 21:10.09 | Azar | damn! I forgot nvz |
| 21:10.27 | Azar | ..and liable! |
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| 21:10.56 | Mark17 | root (hd0,1) filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x5 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-2-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro error 17: cannot mount selected partition |
| 21:12.00 | Mark17 | lets try an older kernel |
| 21:12.14 | Xteven | Mark17: what kind of filesystem is on it ? |
| 21:12.24 | Mark17 | ext3 (harddisc) |
| 21:12.44 | Xteven | ok |
| 21:12.55 | Xteven | check with fdisk what partition type you defined there |
| 21:13.06 | Xteven | I believe ext3 is either 0x82 or 0x83 |
| 21:13.08 | Xteven | not 0x5 |
| 21:13.19 | train` | Mark17, it should not say filesystem type unknown, there's something wrong |
| 21:13.34 | train` | run a live cd, see if all your files, partitions are still there |
| 21:13.44 | Mark17 | i can boot again with a livecd |
| 21:13.58 | Mark17 | just to check it |
| 21:14.06 | Tramp | sda2 is his extended partition, he already posted that (type 5 - this is consistent) |
| 21:14.19 | train` | 0x5 is extended partition |
| 21:14.27 | Xteven | oh |
| 21:14.29 | train` | yes. |
| 21:14.34 | Xteven | then you probably nened /dev/sda5 or so |
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| 21:14.41 | train` | yes :) |
| 21:14.45 | Mark17 | sda5 = swap |
| 21:14.48 | Tramp | dunno what his sda3/4 are though |
| 21:15.09 | Mark17 | Tramp: sda3/sda4 are nothing for as far as i can see |
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| 21:15.40 | Tramp | Mark17: so everything is on hda1 (which would translate to (hd0,0) in grub)? |
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| 21:16.00 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
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| 21:16.06 | Mark17 | sda1 |
| 21:16.09 | Mark17 | not hda1 |
| 21:16.30 | Tramp | Mark17: yeah, right. |
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| 21:16.46 | DA-Laptop | I just built a kernel with kernel-package |
| 21:16.52 | DA-Laptop | How do I make it produce a source package? |
| 21:17.23 | vbgunz | im sorry but "root" is not the Debian live CD password :( |
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| 21:17.44 | themill | Mark17: in your list of partitions earlier, there was boot and swap, but no root.... did I miss something? |
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| 21:17.59 | Mark17 | themill: i have to look again |
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| 21:18.04 | Mark17 | maybe i missed something |
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| 21:18.44 | Mark17 | when i do fdisk -l |
| 21:18.52 | Mark17 | i dont see any root |
| 21:18.55 | Mark17 | that is correct |
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| 21:19.46 | Mark17 | themill: is that the problem? |
| 21:20.03 | themill | Mark17: do you have everything in the one partition or do you have a multi-partition installation (e.g. separate /boot / /home and so on) |
| 21:20.14 | Tramp | themill: /me is confused. His listing from fdisk just stated, that the bootable-flag was set on hda1 - I suppose he has everything installed on sda1 - or do you mean something else? |
| 21:20.31 | Mark17 | themill: all files are in 1 partition |
| 21:20.38 | Mark17 | only swap is separated |
| 21:20.45 | Mark17 | all other things are on / |
| 21:20.54 | themill | Tramp: I had interpreted the fdisk output as being /boot not bootable flag... I was wrong... ignore me ;) |
| 21:20.58 | Mark17 | an ext3 type filesystem |
| 21:21.15 | vbgunz | neither "debian" or "root" is the debian live cd password... whats up, anyone know what it is? |
| 21:21.23 | Tramp | themill: thanks 8) |
| 21:21.29 | Ronin | vbgunz: ask in the debian live channel? |
| 21:21.34 | neotic | vbgunz: it's scrambled? |
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| 21:21.59 | Mark17 | any other things i can try? |
| 21:22.13 | vbgunz | neotic: no, trying to mess with the network settings in kcontrol but I need to log in as admin through kdesu. i tried debian and root as the password but none of those are the password :( |
| 21:22.37 | Ronin | !debian live |
| 21:22.42 | themill | vbgunz: run "sudo passwd root" or try an empty password |
| 21:22.51 | neotic | vbgunz: how do you not know it's scrambled on a livecd? |
| 21:22.52 | Tramp | Mark17: I have problems following the whole thread. Can you summarize what you did that led to this situation? |
| 21:23.04 | vbgunz | neotic: I have no idea what the password is :( |
| 21:23.13 | neotic | vbgunz: it's scrambled.. |
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| 21:23.19 | vbgunz | I tried no password. that doesn't work :( |
| 21:23.27 | Ronin | !livecd |
| 21:23.27 | dpkg | methinks livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/ or http://live.debian.net/ or #debian-live on oftc |
| 21:23.28 | Mark17 | Tramp: i moved files from server1 to server2 |
| 21:23.36 | Mark17 | server1 had 2 harddiscs |
| 21:23.37 | vbgunz | neotic: so how do I get it? |
| 21:23.42 | Mark17 | server2 have 1 harddisc |
| 21:23.55 | Mark17 | server1 did use software raid1 if i am correct |
| 21:23.56 | neotic | vbgunz: tried sudo passwd? |
| 21:23.58 | Mark17 | server2 doesnt |
| 21:24.13 | vbgunz | neotic: "sudo" OR "passwd"? |
| 21:24.17 | Tramp | Mark17: Just write a longer block, I promise I won't run away 8) |
| 21:24.22 | neotic | vbgunz: "sudo passwd" |
| 21:24.23 | strui | Hello, I have a laptop fujitsu lifebook 6120, but on X if I try to use shift + pageup I get ;2A and shift + pagedown ;2B, any idea how to enable such keys to work? (pageup/down using xterm in that case) works on aterm, not on xterm |
| 21:24.24 | vbgunz | you mean set a password? |
| 21:24.32 | vbgunz | I can try |
| 21:24.38 | Mark17 | now i rebooted the system and it doesnt come up again |
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| 21:24.52 | ErichK | Anyone know a good guide for installing compiz? |
| 21:24.53 | Mark17 | and stops with an error about making the root file system |
| 21:24.55 | themill | vbgunz: as I suggested... sudo passwd root |
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| 21:25.18 | Mark17 | it starts with making it and stops at a moment |
| 21:25.24 | themill | vbgunz: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ#head-da35f51e4a39f2bdefd85e7cae8b0e90b550d923 |
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| 21:25.44 | unsolo | how do i force aptitude or apt-get to fetch me a new init file ? |
| 21:26.00 | themill | unsolo: one that you've deleted? or one that you've edited? |
| 21:26.08 | unsolo | deleted |
| 21:26.14 | Tramp | Mark17: did you try to setup a new server2 as clone of server1 or was server2 a working system before? |
| 21:26.20 | themill | !tell unsolo about confmiss |
| 21:26.36 | themill | unsolo: or you can grab the .deb and manually extract the file |
| 21:26.51 | unsolo | ok thanks |
| 21:27.01 | Mark17 | Tramp: server2 did work before |
| 21:27.05 | Mark17 | with debian 4.0 |
| 21:27.15 | Mark17 | an i686 system |
| 21:27.17 | vbgunz | neotic and themill: sorry if it was obvious. coming from Ubuntu I see no reason why I should manually password protect anything on a live cd. it works and thats very cool. I didn't know I had to set the password :) |
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| 21:27.40 | themill | unsolo: there are lots of ways of looking into a .deb -- mc is an easy one to use, else extract it using ar then tar. |
| 21:27.45 | vbgunz | very cool. I need I am in the network settings :) |
| 21:27.49 | vbgunz | hopefully Ubuntu can connect |
| 21:28.05 | Tramp | Mark17: well, you may have overwritten something essential accidentially. However, now you have booted from CD on server2? |
| 21:28.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | I just built a kernel with kernel-package |
| 21:28.09 | Dark_Apostrophe | How do I make it produce a source package? |
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| 21:28.26 | Mark17 | Tramp: i have booted with a livecd (knoppix) on server2 |
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| 21:28.38 | Mark17 | and i have internet (without dns) on that server |
| 21:28.49 | cusco | edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:29.01 | Mark17 | but that isnt a problem |
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| 21:29.12 | Mark17 | my nameserver for look ups was also on that server |
| 21:29.23 | unsolo | themill: amavisd-new it simply will not install for me |
| 21:29.31 | Mark17 | when the server works again i can fix that easily |
| 21:29.33 | ipsecurity | How do I configure the network? |
| 21:29.43 | Tramp | Mark17: ok. you have tried root (hd0,0) in grub before? |
| 21:29.45 | unsolo | addgroup: Starting amavisd: Error in config file "/etc/amavis/conf.d/05-domain_id": Insecure directory in $ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /etc/amavis/conf.d/05-domain_id line 7 |
| 21:29.45 | cusco | sorry I wasn't reading from the beginning |
| 21:29.59 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
| 21:30.18 | Mark17 | but that fails |
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| 21:30.34 | Mark17 | that did give the error that it cannot continue |
| 21:30.42 | Mark17 | but i can reboot to give the full error |
| 21:30.44 | raz0 | Well, I installed yaird, but how do I make make-kpkg use it? I looked at update-alternatives, but can't really find it in there. |
| 21:30.56 | raz0 | (switching mkinitramfs) |
| 21:31.12 | Mark17 | Tramp: is there a location that i can get the critical files from? |
| 21:31.16 | ErichK | Anyone know a good guide for installing compiz? |
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| 21:32.28 | themill | !tell ErichK about compiz |
| 21:32.32 | Tramp | Mark17: was just reading the backlog ... you wrote a fsck failed? |
| 21:32.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: Hey...would you know anything about kernel-package? |
| 21:32.46 | Mark17 | fsck didnt mention any erros |
| 21:33.29 | darkbahamut | does anyone here use aircrack? |
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| 21:33.34 | Tramp | Mark17: so you can run fsck /dev/hda1 without errors and also mount it? |
| 21:33.42 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
| 21:34.02 | Mark17 | but now i get none error yet |
| 21:34.07 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: enough to get myself into trouble :) I have no idea what you mean by getting make-kpkg to make a source package... the linux-source packages are the source package already. |
| 21:34.08 | Mark17 | but maybe it will come |
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| 21:34.17 | Mark17 | because now it is holding after an other step |
| 21:34.47 | Mark17 | no errors about mounting the filesystem and the root filesystem |
| 21:34.53 | Tramp | Mark17: ?? either you can run fsck without error to completion or you can't. Which of the two? |
| 21:35.15 | Mark17 | but it stops after begin: running /scripts/init-bottom... done. |
| 21:35.22 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: I built my own kernel, I'd like to have the source as a .deb |
| 21:35.23 | Mark17 | Tramp: i did get no errors |
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| 21:35.37 | Mark17 | but the first time it did take only 0.x seconds |
| 21:35.41 | Mark17 | and i didnt trust that |
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| 21:35.46 | Mark17 | so i added -f |
| 21:36.10 | Mark17 | but now it stops after /scripts/init-bottom |
| 21:36.31 | Tramp | Mark17: huh, that's an error from the initramfs. So your kernel boots fine but then it fails to mount the real root |
| 21:36.49 | Mark17 | Tramp: it doesnt give an error yet |
| 21:37.05 | Mark17 | it first stops at: mounting root file system |
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| 21:37.27 | Tramp | Mark17: What you just described (/scripts/init-bottom) was the error you get when trying to boot serve2, right? |
| 21:37.28 | Mark17 | should the old kernel (from before the reboot) work? |
| 21:37.29 | ipsecurity | How do I configure the network? [I'm using Debian etch mini] |
| 21:37.37 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
| 21:38.00 | Mark17 | ipsecurity: man ifconfig i guess |
| 21:38.10 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: source packages aren't a .deb; binary packages are a .deb. A source package is orig.tar.gz, diff.gz .changes and .dsc ... what are you *really* trying to do... |
| 21:38.15 | ipsecurity | Mark17 That'll just show you the IP information. |
| 21:38.18 | Tramp | Mark17: ok. So then this has nothing to do with grub. This is the initramfs (early user space) which does not find the real root-FS. |
| 21:38.36 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: I'd like it to automatically install the source in /usr/src/ |
| 21:38.39 | Mark17 | ipsecurity: man ifconfig |
| 21:38.52 | Mark17 | Tramp: i changed grub all ready |
| 21:38.56 | themill | ipsecurity: ifconfig also sets network config. Or read man 5 interfaces |
| 21:39.25 | darkbahamut | wols_: hey |
| 21:39.29 | Mark17 | Tramp: how can i fix that? |
| 21:39.31 | Tramp | Tramp: Unfortunately I have no experience with initramfs. So I'm afraid I can't tell you, how to fix it. But it should not be too hard. |
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| 21:39.57 | Mark17 | well it doesnt give an error that i could use |
| 21:40.00 | Mark17 | it just stops |
| 21:40.02 | vbgunz | I have no idea why or how to change the following. for some reason. I keep getting some wild 169. ip address. I cannot set a static IP no matter what i try though i am only trying to do it through kcontrol. this is Debian Etch. I cannot set a static IP :( |
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| 21:40.41 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: the source is in the package linux-source-2.6.blahblah that you used to make the kernel. |
| 21:41.31 | Tramp | Mark17: In the initial menu from grub, there should be an option "initrd ...". If you delete this line in the grub-menu, the kernel may boot - rough guess 8/ |
| 21:42.12 | Mark17 | Tramp: can i make a comment from it also (using # at the beginning?)? |
| 21:42.33 | k31th | Please specify absolute path name of your linux directory // is this /usr/src ? |
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| 21:43.12 | Tramp | Mark17: Just delete it (it does not affect the files on disk). I'm talking about the initial menu from grub that appears on your screen (and which you have to enter by hitting "e") |
| 21:43.29 | Mark17 | ok |
| 21:43.44 | Tramp | Mark17: you know, what I'm talking about, right? |
| 21:43.45 | Mark17 | moment |
| 21:43.50 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
| 21:43.53 | Tramp | ok. |
| 21:44.02 | Mark17 | that is where i change sdb1 to sda1 all the time ;) |
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| 21:45.09 | themill | k31th: can you give us some context for your question? |
| 21:45.15 | Mark17 | kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(0,0) |
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| 21:46.49 | Tramp | Mark17: could you type the complete grub-entry (all lines) to some paste-site? |
| 21:47.06 | Mark17 | yes, moment (i have to reboot) |
| 21:47.15 | Mark17 | to get at that point |
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| 21:48.07 | ipsecurity | themill It's failing to detect my device [eth0] |
| 21:48.08 | ipsecurity | Bind socket to interface: No such device |
| 21:49.13 | themill | ipsecurity: do you know what chipset it uses? lspci | grep -i net |
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| 21:49.52 | ipsecurity | themill 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10) |
| 21:50.04 | ipsecurity | (I'm running Debian Etch MINI under VMware] |
| 21:50.37 | Ronin | etch mini? |
| 21:50.45 | Mark17 | http://pastebin.ca/794105 |
| 21:50.52 | Mark17 | there are the 3 lines i have |
| 21:50.58 | Tramp | Mark17: Apparently when copying stuff you overwrote files in /boot. If you had a backup of /boot of server2 ... |
| 21:51.33 | ipsecurity | Ronin Sorry, was confused with another *nix, Debian Etch. |
| 21:52.05 | Mark17 | no, but i have a server with the same hardware as server2 running without changed files |
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| 21:52.15 | Mark17 | could files from that server also be used? |
| 21:52.43 | vbgunz_ | sorry, everytime I restart the router I have actually reboot just to get a connection again (Gutsy)... this should never be the case :( |
| 21:53.05 | Mark17 | vbgunz_: /etc/init.d/networking restart should be enough |
| 21:53.30 | Tramp | Mark17: ok. That's the entries after you changed sda2 to sda1. And there was a initrd-line ther originally, right? |
| 21:53.30 | vbgunz_ | ammo for my arsenal, thanks Mark17 |
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| 21:53.46 | Mark17 | Tramp: yes |
| 21:54.01 | Mark17 | after the line with kernel: |
| 21:54.16 | Mark17 | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.21-2-686 |
| 21:54.32 | Arrick | hey all, Im trying to install the latest stable debian into a MS virtual Server 2005 VM, and it gets stuck on ACPI, is there any special thing I need to do to get this installed? |
| 21:54.39 | Mark17 | but using files from an other server might be an option? |
| 21:54.49 | Mark17 | so replacing boot with the other files |
| 21:55.23 | Mark17 | ah lets try anyway |
| 21:55.24 | Tramp | Mark17: If my assumption is right (i.e. you overwrote /boot) it won't make things worse. |
| 21:55.40 | Mark17 | Tramp: i replaced /boot |
| 21:55.49 | Mark17 | so it only can make things better if i am correct |
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| 21:56.07 | Mark17 | first i make a backup off the currect /boot ;) |
| 21:56.09 | vbgunz_ | I have no idea whats happening here. I manually set my IP to 198.168.0.104 in Network Settings in kcontrol. I set everything up as far as I am concerned "100%" correct. I check /sbin/ifconfig and it states my ip address is correct. after trying to visit google.com to confirm i can connect, I cannot. I check ifconfig again and my IP has changed. I check kcontrol Network Settings and it states I somehow manually changed the address to |
| 21:56.09 | vbgunz_ | something else... this is impossible. I've never seen this behavior before. anyone know whats wrong? |
| 21:56.22 | Tramp | Mark17: or it stays, as it is. I'm confused that /dev/sda1 gives you a panic (i.e. the kernel fails to mount it) |
| 21:56.44 | Mark17 | Tramp: maybe the initrd files are wrong |
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| 21:56.52 | fengor | Arrick: did you try the noacpi option yet? |
| 21:57.05 | vbgunz_ | seriously... this is beyond confusing... I cannot change my IP address in Debian Etch using the KDE kcontrol module :( |
| 21:57.09 | Mark17 | and tries to make a raid1 (software) |
| 21:57.16 | Tramp | Mark: yeah, but by removing the line, we bypass them. However, the initrd from your other server may work |
| 21:57.24 | Azar | vbgunz_: so don't use it, go the traditional way |
| 21:57.35 | vbgunz_ | Azar: what is the tradtional way? |
| 21:57.42 | Tramp | Mark17: exactly that is my assumption (i.e. with initrd it tries the raid1 of server1 as root) |
| 21:57.50 | Azar | vbgunz_: use /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 21:58.05 | Nyle | Happy Turkey Day |
| 21:58.07 | Tramp | Mark17: but without the initrd it should mount the sda1 .... that what confuses me. |
| 21:58.30 | Azar | vbgunz_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 21:58.31 | Arrick | fengor, I dont know what that is |
| 21:58.36 | Arrick | how do i do it fengor ? |
| 21:58.37 | Nyle | Arrick: hey |
| 21:58.41 | Azar | Nyle: my man, how did your turkey came out? |
| 21:58.42 | Arrick | heya Nyle |
| 21:58.46 | fengor | its a boot flag |
| 21:58.50 | Nyle | Azar: dunno yet |
| 21:58.55 | Nyle | i can't cook worth a damn |
| 21:59.09 | Tramp | Mark17: For a start, I would try to just replace the initrd with the initrd of the third server in /boot. Maybe that's enough. |
| 21:59.19 | Azar | Nyle: I had two nice hot dogs |
| 21:59.20 | vbgunz_ | Azar: i just checked that file and it appears my info is correct. the kcontrol module though is always showing something else... also, I still cannot connect to the Internet :( |
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| 21:59.30 | Nyle | Azar: i will eat a whole turkey leg for you |
| 21:59.30 | Nyle | ok |
| 21:59.40 | ipsecurity | themill 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 10) |
| 21:59.41 | Azar | yummmm a turkey leg |
| 21:59.42 | ipsecurity | (I'm running Debian Etch MINI under VMware] |
| 21:59.51 | ipsecurity | s/mini/ |
| 22:00.03 | Nyle | there is only one etch |
| 22:00.07 | Nyle | and its not mini or full |
| 22:00.08 | Arrick | so instead of hitting enter, I type in noacpi fengor ? |
| 22:00.09 | Nyle | its just etch |
| 22:00.23 | Azar | vbgunz_: sorry man can't help you never used any k-applicatons |
| 22:00.24 | Nyle | Arrick: do you know how tp ass kernel boot params to the kernel |
| 22:00.28 | ipsecurity | Nyle IT WAS A MISTAKE. zz |
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| 22:00.46 | Nyle | ipsecurity: your caps lock is on |
| 22:01.00 | ipsecurity | Nyle NO KIDDING? |
| 22:01.06 | Azar | haha |
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| 22:01.22 | Nyle | ipsecurity please stop using all caps or I will bury you alive |
| 22:01.32 | Azar | Nyle: pray that your sis's turkey is in caps too |
| 22:01.39 | Nyle | or I might just dip you in choclate and deep fry you |
| 22:01.39 | anomaly | sorry brain is in the gutter.. read that as tap ass kernel.. anyways |
| 22:01.44 | Arrick | fengor, I typed that at the "boot:" prompt, and it said image not available |
| 22:01.49 | anomaly | weird mental image... |
| 22:01.59 | Azar | :) |
| 22:02.08 | themill | ipsecurity: try pasting the output of lspci -n in here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 22:02.08 | reiseesel | hi there.. |
| 22:02.12 | Nyle | turkey: haha |
| 22:02.22 | themill | ipsecurity: but there's not much we can do to help you with vmware. |
| 22:02.36 | themill | !tell ipsecurity about vmware |
| 22:03.08 | ipsecurity | themill done. |
| 22:03.12 | Nyle | oh hey Arrick man |
| 22:03.17 | fengor | Arrick: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html |
| 22:03.29 | reiseesel | i'm just playing arround with autofs and wonder if there is an option to launch an application when a device is mounted , like running a terminal to access the directory |
| 22:03.39 | vbgunz_ | am going to restart the router, see if I can restart the network |
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| 22:04.08 | themill | ipsecurity: and what module did it tell you to use for the network card? |
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| 22:05.13 | wols_ | Dark_Apostrophe: make-kpkg --targets |
| 22:05.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ah, thanks |
| 22:05.40 | wols_ | but all you really need is kernel image and kernel headers |
| 22:05.43 | wols_ | rest is not important |
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| 22:06.33 | cusco | lol |
| 22:07.04 | ipsecurity | themill device: PCnet - Fast 79C971 , driver: pcnet32 |
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| 22:08.35 | cein | has anybody ever considered using a queueing system for aptitude? |
| 22:08.57 | JordiGH | How can I force a user to change their password on their next logon? |
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| 22:09.00 | cein | in other words, be able to put packages on the install 'queue' while other packages are already downloading and installing? |
| 22:09.25 | Arrick | pci=noacpi' |
| 22:09.27 | JordiGH | cein: Huh? |
| 22:09.29 | themill | ipsecurity: is that module loaded? |
| 22:09.31 | Arrick | sorry, wrong channel |
| 22:09.34 | cein | JordiGH, you can change it for them ;-) |
| 22:09.37 | cast | JordiGH: passwd -e |
| 22:10.14 | JordiGH | cast: Ah, nice. I wonder if the newuser script has an option for that. |
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| 22:10.34 | JordiGH | Er, the adduser script |
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| 22:11.56 | Mark17 | Tramp: it is still giving errors, but i have to boot again to find the problem |
| 22:13.08 | Arrick | why is this thing still trying to pass acpi when I'm running the "linux pci=noacpi" command? |
| 22:13.11 | JordiGH | cein: I'm still curious about your aptitude request. You want to have finer control over the order in which packages are installed? |
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| 22:15.32 | themill | JordiGH: I've had some troubles with ssh not letting people log in if their passwd was already expired. But that was a long time ago... don't know if that's still a problem. |
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| 22:16.17 | Mark17 | it seems to work |
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| 22:16.33 | Mark17 | if it works i will make a backup for every server on cd ;) |
| 22:16.34 | Tramp | Mark17: 8) seems? |
| 22:16.40 | JordiGH | themill: Interesting. |
| 22:16.40 | Tramp | good plan. |
| 22:16.47 | rebelion | HI all! does anyone have dvbt, and maybe freecom dtt200u? |
| 22:16.49 | Mark17 | Tramp: it isnt completely booted yet |
| 22:16.55 | vbgunz__ | I cannot get any internet connection going at all... at first Debian wouldn't pick up my wireless so a couple days later, I set up a wired connection. now debian refuses to even work with me on that... I really want to try it out but the internet is important. I am afraid I will no longer give a try. when will the next stable be out? |
| 22:16.55 | Arrick | this install keeps hanging at "ACPI ( Supports S0 |
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| 22:17.10 | rebelion | any strange problems lately, namely with kernel 2.6.23? I can tune anymore it doesnt even blink |
| 22:17.15 | Tramp | Mark17: remember to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot again. |
| 22:17.27 | k31th | what package does debian put lspci lsusb etc in ? |
| 22:17.33 | Nyle | pciutils |
| 22:17.34 | Mark17 | Tramp: when it works yes |
| 22:17.35 | JordiGH | vbgunz_: How does it "refuse to work" with the wired connection? |
| 22:17.38 | Nyle | !info pciutils |
| 22:17.39 | k31th | Nyle: thanks |
| 22:17.42 | dpkg | pciutils: (Linux PCI Utilities), section admin, is standard. Version: 1:2.2.4-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 205 kB, Installed size: 616 kB |
| 22:17.44 | SamuraiDio | what is [gnuab] |
| 22:17.55 | Nyle | ganooaab |
| 22:17.58 | SamuraiDio | ? |
| 22:18.00 | Nyle | freaky |
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| 22:18.27 | SamuraiDio | huh!? |
| 22:18.43 | Nyle | SamuraiDio: are you on the pipe? |
| 22:18.45 | yassine | good evening everyone |
| 22:18.59 | Nyle | yassine: hmm |
| 22:19.00 | SamuraiDio | Nyle, what? |
| 22:19.18 | Mark17 | and now it hangs again :( |
| 22:19.25 | SamuraiDio | Package: libswt-gtk-3.2-java (3.2.2-1) [gnuab] |
| 22:19.45 | SamuraiDio | this isn't on my apt package list |
| 22:19.47 | yassine | im trying to set up typo3 with debian preconfigured package and i get a 500 error that occures after a redirect limt hits |
| 22:19.51 | SamuraiDio | why? |
| 22:19.53 | Tramp | Mark17: Bummer. Same error? |
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| 22:19.58 | Ctrl_ | hi |
| 22:20.08 | Mark17 | Tramp: same location, no error yet |
| 22:20.14 | Ctrl_ | is it normall to have a kernel image with 135 MB? |
| 22:20.20 | Ctrl_ | linux-image-2.6.23.8-_2.6.23.8--10.00.Custom_amd64.deb = 136.5 mb |
| 22:20.32 | Tramp | Mark17: You mean this "waiting for root"? |
| 22:20.32 | Mark17 | no |
| 22:20.59 | Mark17 | begin: running /scripts/init-bottom... done. |
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| 22:21.05 | Mark17 | and it stops at that moment |
| 22:21.09 | karmatronic | Ctrl_: size doesnt matter |
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| 22:21.30 | Ctrl_ | are you sure , last time it as over then 500 MB and i couldnt boot ;) |
| 22:21.39 | Ctrl_ | it was* |
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| 22:21.49 | dokma | I'm looking for a natural solution for password generation/storage/backup for debian with kde. Any suggestions wellcome. Thank you. |
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| 22:22.09 | Ctrl_ | dokma , windows + cygwin |
| 22:22.26 | dokma | Ctrl_: I don't have money for windows |
| 22:22.37 | Ctrl_ | W@rZ :) |
| 22:22.49 | dokma | Ctrl_: my faith forbids theft |
| 22:23.07 | Ctrl_ | lol , what the problem to steal from theives? |
| 22:23.27 | dokma | what you sow shall you also reap |
| 22:23.31 | wols_ | Dark_Apostrophe: didn't your momma tell you to not /msg strangers? |
| 22:23.35 | cast | i'm confused, is unauthorized copying theft? :s |
| 22:23.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sorry, I didn't want to paste it all into the channel :p |
| 22:23.55 | Ctrl_ | lol |
| 22:23.59 | Arrick | cast, yes it is |
| 22:24.07 | Mark17 | cast: it is illegal in many countrys, but in some it is legal |
| 22:24.16 | Mark17 | downloading is legal in the netherlands |
| 22:24.21 | Mark17 | uploading is illegal ;) |
| 22:24.25 | Ctrl_ | i dont know any country (Except china) that it is legal to do so |
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| 22:26.11 | Mark17 | Tramp: no error, just stopping |
| 22:26.13 | vbgunz_ | hello |
| 22:26.39 | SamuraiDio | whats gnuab? how can i instal a package marked as gnuab and why is it marked as gnuab? (http://packages.debian.org/sid/libswt-gtk-3.2-java) |
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| 22:28.37 | Tramp | Mark17: Hmmm, coming to my wits end. I still think, if you boot without initrd (and root=/dev/sda1) it should work. I cannot explain why the kernel fails to mount your root-FS. |
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| 22:29.10 | vbgunz_ | my internet connection is refusing to work... no wireless. no wire. is there a trick to get it working on the live CD? I am so close to giving it but don't want too just yet :( |
| 22:29.46 | Mark17 | Tramp: than i get a kernel panic |
| 22:30.26 | vbgunz_ | all good I suppose. I'll try again later... am brain tired atm |
| 22:30.31 | wols_ | vbgunz_: what network chip(s)? |
| 22:30.36 | Nyle | pj |
| 22:30.43 | vbgunz_ | wols_: how do I find out? |
| 22:30.56 | wols_ | lspci |
| 22:31.03 | vbgunz_ | ok |
| 22:31.52 | vbgunz_ | Inter Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller (I think) |
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| 22:32.15 | vbgunz_ | this is on a Lenovo T60 thinkpad |
| 22:32.16 | Mark17 | now i did change sda1 to sda2 and i get a new error |
| 22:32.19 | Tramp | Mark17: yeah - well, probably the kernel needs some modules from the initrd, so it won't boot without it, thus the Panic. |
| 22:32.38 | Rickywh | is it ok for me to run public dns server for a week just for testing how it works? |
| 22:32.51 | Rickywh | someone told me it's not a good idea to run public dns server ever once |
| 22:32.59 | Rickywh | from home that is |
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| 22:33.02 | Mark17 | mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory |
| 22:33.15 | Mark17 | and also mounting /sys and /proc give similair errors |
| 22:33.39 | Mark17 | target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init |
| 22:34.25 | Tramp | Mark17: Well, the positive thing is, the grub-part of the boot works. However, the kernel/initrd part fails due to the overwritten /boot. |
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| 22:34.34 | neotic | Mark17: mount -o bind /dev ..... |
| 22:34.40 | neotic | Mark17: mount -t proc none /proc ........ |
| 22:35.10 | vbgunz_ | hmm, is it 82573L not supported with Debian Etch? |
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| 22:35.57 | wols_ | vbgunz_: try the kmuto installer |
| 22:36.10 | Mark17 | neotic: both failed in initramfs |
| 22:36.25 | Tramp | Mark17: you need a kernel and (maybe optional) initrd that boots your system. I'm sure there is a way, unforunately I don't know it. 8/ |
| 22:36.27 | neotic | Mark17: oh, i don't use initram :D |
| 22:36.34 | vbgunz_ | wols_: I am not installing Debian. I just wish to try it out on the LiveCD and make sure it is right for me |
| 22:36.39 | Mark17 | neotic: i dont get any other command line |
| 22:36.39 | aarcane | Hi, I'm using network manager in debian sid. it's having difficulties connected to any wifi network. I can connect with iwconfig and dhclient easily. so it's just odd network manager issues :( |
| 22:37.24 | Tramp | Mark17: So the question probably someone else can answer is, what to do when kernel and initrd were accidentially (....) overwritten. |
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| 22:37.33 | Mark17 | the last errors are from a wrong thing in grub |
| 22:37.42 | wols_ | Tramp: reinstall them |
| 22:38.24 | Tramp | wols_: from which medium would he do that? Do you have some factoid for him? |
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| 22:53.36 | themill | Tramp: I've not been following... does booting of a live CD, mounting the disk, chrooting to it and then aptitude install linux-image-blah sound feasible? |
| 22:53.57 | Knorrie | yes |
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| 22:54.28 | CaT[tm] | tryu the topic |
| 22:54.30 | CaT[tm] | oops |
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| 23:00.02 | Tramp | themill: sorry -was afk - yes, this could be an idea |
| 23:00.21 | Tramp | Mark17: you still listening? |
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| 23:03.36 | strui | Hello, my laptot uses fn + shift + pageup to scroll up, how can I map that so only uses shift + pageup? |
| 23:04.11 | spq | i want an package from sid for sarge(as a deb package), how to do this? |
| 23:04.20 | Mark17 | Tramp: i am still reading |
| 23:04.24 | themill | !tell spq about simple sid backport |
| 23:04.31 | Mark17 | but i cannot chroot /dev/sda1 |
| 23:04.40 | Mark17 | and when i first mount it to /mnt |
| 23:04.40 | Tramp | Mark17: no, first mount it of course |
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| 23:04.48 | Mark17 | i cannot chroot /mnt |
| 23:04.58 | Tramp | why? |
| 23:05.14 | neotic | chroot /mnt /bin/bash |
| 23:05.44 | kenjy | some one here use NGINX? |
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| 23:05.49 | Mark17 | chroot /mnt >> segmentation fault |
| 23:06.38 | Tramp | Mark17: and with neotic's suggestion? |
| 23:07.09 | Mark17 | same error |
| 23:07.25 | neotic | hm |
| 23:07.41 | kenjy | some one? |
| 23:08.07 | Tramp | Mark17: hmm. umount and run fsck /dev/sda1 again - I'm still not sure from what you said if there was an error or not. |
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| 23:08.24 | Knorrie | !tell kenjy about someone |
| 23:08.43 | kenjy | Knorrie: If you don't know nginx don't talk me :P |
| 23:09.32 | kenjy | Knorrie: I ask for nginx because people like you don't know about thinks like that |
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| 23:10.08 | themill | Mark17: what are you running chroot under? some livecd? |
| 23:10.18 | Mark17 | livecd yes |
| 23:10.22 | Mark17 | knoppix |
| 23:10.54 | Mark17 | Tramp: no errors when i use fsck |
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| 23:12.40 | vbgunz_ | i am both physically and wirelessly connected to a router. I have internet access. how do I know or find out what I am using (wire|wireless)? |
| 23:12.53 | cast | route |
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| 23:13.27 | cast | alternatively use netstat and see what the source ip is for your outgoing connections and which nic it corresponds to |
| 23:14.19 | vbgunz_ | not sure how to read the output of route http://pastey.net/77826 |
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| 23:14.46 | Tramp | Mark17: uhrgs. Did you overwrite something else? I'm running out of ideas here. |
| 23:15.02 | Mark17 | Tramp: the total / is replaced by a wrong one |
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| 23:15.48 | Mark17 | because off a mistake with rsync |
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| 23:17.41 | spq | how can i look intothe contents of a deb archive? |
| 23:18.12 | niklas | does it matter if you run your OS on the slave or master drive? I noticed that my BIOS by default does not look for master boot record on the slave drive when booting |
| 23:18.20 | Knorrie | spq: dpkg-deb |
| 23:18.35 | Tramp | Mark17: yeah, but, well, then I'd assume that the whole system is foobared and you may be forced to reinstall. |
| 23:18.38 | cast | hmm, guess obmnis is using EC2 |
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| 23:18.51 | Mark17 | well i have a few .bak files |
| 23:19.33 | cast | niklas: where the OS is doesn't matter, as long as the bootloader knows where to look |
| 23:19.39 | Knorrie | spq: dpkg-deb -c package.deb shows content, -I shows general information, etc. |
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| 23:20.06 | niklas | cast: ok great. thank you! |
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| 23:21.28 | minus198 | Tramp, wols_; You guys helped me yesterday or something with the "internetconnection randomly drops down" I just happened again and arp -an says this: ? (192.168.0.1) at <incomplete> on eth1 |
| 23:21.38 | themill | niklas: mc can let you browse around within it. |
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| 23:21.49 | Tramp | minus198: ah. so no arp for your default-gw |
| 23:22.22 | minus198 | Tramp, I can add one thing, it happens when I'm downloading alot via torrent. |
| 23:22.24 | niklas | themill: mc? |
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| 23:22.52 | themill | niklas: midnight commander, in the package mc |
| 23:22.54 | Tramp | minus198: I blame your netgear router |
| 23:23.08 | minus198 | Tramp, Ok.. As I guess then... |
| 23:23.14 | Tramp | minus198: as a quick fix, set a static arp-entry for the router |
| 23:23.23 | minus198 | Tramp, ok, how? |
| 23:23.29 | niklas | themill: ah ok. |
| 23:23.40 | Tramp | minus198: man arp, look at the -s Option |
| 23:23.47 | minus198 | k |
| 23:25.02 | minus198 | Tramp, Well, can you really blame the router? Cause it worked in Ubuntu... |
| 23:25.58 | Tramp | minus198: <rant>live long experience with consumer-grade routers</rant> - well under the same load? |
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| 23:26.41 | minus198 | This isn't a consumer router.. Its a router for companys... |
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| 23:27.50 | minus198 | Tramp, http://netgear.com/Products/VPNandSSL/WirelessVPNFirewallRouters/FVG318.aspx |
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| 23:29.10 | Tramp | minus198: hmm. Well. When it happens, you can try the following: Delete the arp-entry for the router on your server as well (arp -d) then ping the router. If it works, it is probably not the router. If it fails too, it certainly is the router. |
| 23:29.28 | sls_052 | hi there. is there somebody experienced in installation process of debian 4.0? Specially hardware detection of cd/dvd? |
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| 23:31.01 | sls_052 | need some help please. am newbie and donīt know how to install debian on my brand new compi |
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| 23:31.46 | scrubs | please, read the documentation sls_052 |
| 23:31.51 | minus_ | Tramp, I connected directly to my modem.. I'll check if I have the same problems... |
| 23:32.43 | Tramp | minus_: additionally you can run tcpdump -vni eth1 arp (and probably -w to dump it to a file). Then check if something unusual is visible |
| 23:33.09 | minus_ | When It happens or now? |
| 23:33.45 | sls_052 | but i cannot find the problem. during hardware detection debian says it cannot find a cdrom. but the installation is running from a plextor cd/dvd. do I have to go shell and mount manually? |
| 23:33.58 | Tramp | minus_: Well, just leave it running for a while. There should be request/reply in regular intervals (probably 1 minute) |
| 23:34.07 | minus_ | Tramp, ok |
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| 23:36.27 | dev-bin | I'm not having any luck here. What are some of the gui package managers available |
| 23:37.15 | stdan | hi, i have a problem with compiling a 2.6 kernel. Can anyone help me pls? i get the error: yaird error: Could not read output for /sbin/modprobe -v -n --show-depends --set-version 2.6.20.21-default evdev (fatal). Thanks! |
| 23:37.48 | Tramp | minus_: well, its a 100 Euro router - so I would call it consumer-grade. |
| 23:37.56 | minus_ | Tramp, ok :P |
| 23:38.35 | sander_ | Anyone know how to set up raid1 in debian.. its software raid configured from the bios |
| 23:38.54 | dev-bin | I trhought there was one called synapse |
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| 23:39.10 | sander_ | I configured the raid setup in the bios.. but in the installation menu.. I only see two hardrives.. not 1 as I expected |
| 23:39.58 | themill | night all! |
| 23:40.27 | minus_ | Tramp, But still: Shouldn't a router, even if it is a consumer-grade router, be able to handle max 15Mbit transfer speeds... |
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| 23:42.44 | Tramp | minus_: It certainly should. But however, these boxes have a short "time to market" and often are shipped with subtle (or not so subtle) firmware bugs. |
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| 23:43.24 | infernix | where does one find a debootstrap that runs on RHEL4? |
| 23:43.26 | scrubs | sls_052 run the installation in expert mode |
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| 23:43.58 | scrubs | the the sata modules are load by default |
| 23:44.09 | minus_ | Tramp, Ow.. You just reminded me of one thing.. Just when I installed Debian, the router crashed so that I had to reset it == the firmware that was installed when it was shipped.. Im gonna try and update it later |
| 23:45.13 | scrubs | someone have installed the XFi beta drivers? |
| 23:45.49 | scrubs | /usr/include/asm/rwsem.h:8:3: error: #error This header is not available for x86_64 |
| 23:46.04 | scrubs | mmmm |
| 23:46.19 | scrubs | any idea? |
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| 23:49.10 | Rickywh | is it ok to run a public dns server from home IP DSL ? |
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| 23:52.43 | KI4IKL | Is it normal for the configuring apt process of the install to take a long timE? |
| 23:52.49 | KI4IKL | It says it is scanning the mirror... |
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| 23:53.22 | Mark17 | how can i use rsync to move files from serverA (with rsync) to serverB (with ssh, without rsync)? |
| 23:54.02 | cusco | KI4IKL: your mirror is probabbly having some temporary issues |
| 23:54.05 | cusco | try another mirror instead |
| 23:54.08 | cusco | go back one step |
| 23:54.21 | KI4IKL | Okay cusco |
| 23:54.45 | Knorrie | Rickywh: like, a resolver, or an authoritive nameserver for a zone? |
| 23:55.37 | Knorrie | Rickywh: 1) no, don't do that, 2) it's fun to learn stuff that way |
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| 23:56.21 | Ben` | when I try to install tetex-bin I get, http://rohitab.pastebin.com/m65b4d694 |
| 23:56.23 | Ben` | why? |
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| 23:59.20 | infernix | hrm.. lets see if i can debootstrap a 64bit etch on a 32bits redhat box and reboot into 64bit etch |