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| 00:00.11 | trentg | must be menu |
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| 00:00.28 | trentg | I installed openbox but it was still missing menus |
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| 00:01.01 | mesaboogie | I was wondering if anyone in here can help me find out how to install my bcm4306 wireless card, WITHOUT the use of ndiswrapper. I've tried bcm43xx-fwcutter, only to find out that it does not exist in the repo's and I can not seem to install it manual from source. I've read that all i need is the firmware, but I cant get firmware without the cutter...anyone know of a good walkthrough? |
| 00:02.44 | abrotman | mesaboogie: it does exist |
| 00:02.50 | abrotman | !info bcm43xx-fwcutter etch |
| 00:02.52 | dpkg | bcm43xx-fwcutter: (Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware), section contrib/utils, is optional. Version: 1:005-2 (etch), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 00:02.56 | abrotman | it's in contrib |
| 00:03.47 | mesaboogie | how do i enable it then? i've been fooling with repo's all night...i believe that contrib is even selected.. |
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| 00:06.47 | abrotman | !tell mesaboogie about contrib |
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| 00:07.00 | mesaboogie | !tell contrib |
| 00:07.18 | abrotman | mesaboogie: see what the bot told you |
| 00:07.25 | trentg | nope, still missing menus for openbox |
| 00:07.44 | abrotman | is menu-xdg installed ? |
| 00:08.11 | trentg | No |
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| 00:09.16 | mesaboogie | ya.. got it... |
| 00:10.27 | mesaboogie | !tell nonfree |
| 00:10.35 | abrotman | mesaboogie: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 00:10.52 | mesaboogie | yaya..got it' |
| 00:11.00 | mesaboogie | !tell non-free |
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| 00:11.59 | abrotman | mesaboogie: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 00:12.32 | b52laptop | ppl i got my debian that ping localhost / her ip adress |
| 00:12.43 | b52laptop | but can not ping the other machine of the network |
| 00:12.48 | abrotman | dhcp ? |
| 00:12.49 | b52laptop | i don't have iptables activated |
| 00:12.52 | b52laptop | nop |
| 00:12.53 | b52laptop | static |
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| 00:13.10 | abrotman | check your netmask and your router in your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:13.34 | gribouille | I'm trying to build a .deb package with my program. my program contains shared librries. for these libraries, I get the following message : dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find any packages for libxxx.so.0 how can I solve this problem ? |
| 00:13.37 | b52laptop | abrotman, yeap my interfaces file is ok , what could be other reason to the network to not work |
| 00:13.44 | b52laptop | other than route ? |
| 00:13.44 | abrotman | broken network |
| 00:13.53 | b52laptop | abrotman, broken = ? :D |
| 00:13.57 | abrotman | not working |
| 00:14.02 | b52laptop | :D |
| 00:14.16 | abrotman | does it work in windows ? |
| 00:14.21 | abrotman | what kind of NIC is it? |
| 00:14.32 | b52laptop | ethernet intel e100 |
| 00:14.39 | b52laptop | yeap it work on win |
| 00:14.50 | abrotman | older computer? |
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| 00:15.14 | b52laptop | and my routeur doesn;t give a ip address in dhcp mode to my debian machine !! |
| 00:15.18 | b52laptop | no a p4 |
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| 00:15.44 | b52laptop | abrotman, "old computer " ; well yeah i think ; he start to act strangely recently :D |
| 00:15.50 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:16.31 | abrotman | b52laptop: tried another version of linux ? |
| 00:17.09 | b52laptop | abrotman, i can not afford reinstall , i have important data there , i'm using irc from anothe rmachine (under ubuntu) |
| 00:17.28 | abrotman | b52laptop: so it used to work ? |
| 00:17.34 | b52laptop | yeap !! |
| 00:17.42 | b52laptop | and it stopped working suddently |
| 00:17.43 | abrotman | maybe the NIC got fried |
| 00:17.49 | mesaboogie | thx.. finally figured it out.. |
| 00:17.49 | b52laptop | i mean wth reboot or any thing ! |
| 00:17.54 | b52laptop | grrrr |
| 00:18.01 | b52laptop | abrotman, how could i check that ? |
| 00:18.03 | abrotman | b52laptop: lspci .. do you see it ? |
| 00:18.08 | abrotman | b52laptop: you'd try a liveCD |
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| 00:18.53 | b52laptop | euh wait !! |
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| 00:19.08 | b52laptop | abrotman, not output of my intel card in the lspci result !!! |
| 00:19.34 | abrotman | !confuse me |
| 00:19.34 | dpkg | No, who are your pineapple tomorrow, abrotman? lederhosen of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra anchovies |
| 00:19.45 | abrotman | b52laptop: does the BIOS see it? |
| 00:19.57 | b52laptop | abrotman, wait rebooting :d |
| 00:20.11 | abrotman | you could also check to see if a liveCD sees it |
| 00:20.28 | abrotman | not sure how you'd get it to have an IP if it's not there .. but whatever |
| 00:20.28 | b52laptop | hm |
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| 00:32.04 | gribouille | when I build my package, shared libraries go in /usr/local/lib, but it is not in the path of the linker. how can I solve this problem ? |
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| 00:34.48 | Tramp | gribouille: Maybe ldconfig is, what you are looking for |
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| 00:35.08 | gribouille | Tramp, ldconfi /usr/local/lib ? |
| 00:35.12 | gribouille | Tramp, ldconfig /usr/local/lib ? |
| 00:36.24 | Tramp | gribouille: Please check the manpage and the and the use of /etc/ld.so.conf* |
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| 00:39.44 | b52laptop | abrotman, under windows the network card send the packets but doesn't receive :( |
| 00:40.04 | abrotman | doesn't sound good |
| 00:40.15 | abrotman | make sure your cable is good |
| 00:40.25 | b52laptop | yeap just changed the cable |
| 00:40.27 | b52laptop | he is good |
| 00:40.42 | b52laptop | all the lights of the network card are working |
| 00:40.44 | b52laptop | but |
| 00:40.48 | b52laptop | no packet receive |
| 00:40.57 | b52laptop | i also change the port attachement |
| 00:41.00 | b52laptop | on the routeur |
| 00:41.01 | b52laptop | :( |
| 00:41.14 | b52laptop | seems that damn card , has taken a retirement :D |
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| 00:41.24 | b52laptop | she could acknoledge before :) |
| 00:41.29 | b52laptop | she could acknoledwge before :) |
| 00:41.38 | b52laptop | acknowledge |
| 00:41.40 | b52laptop | :D |
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| 00:45.11 | phrost6 | any idea what would case update-rc.d to hang at 100% cpu use? |
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| 00:45.18 | phrost6 | i figure it'd be a pretty straight forward program |
| 00:45.45 | Mandle | ok, got the firmware installed but when iwlist scan shows no results on my wireless |
| 00:46.22 | Mandle | do i have to link something now ?? |
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| 00:47.57 | phlpp | hi |
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| 00:49.22 | phlpp | i just dled the latest (stable) java runtime from sun's website. i got that .bin, and extracted it. but how is it possible to replace all links to /usr/bin/java or sth. like that, that are owned by gij/gcj, with my 'new' /usr/java/foobar/bin/java? |
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| 00:50.02 | abrotman | !make-jpkg |
| 00:50.08 | abrotman | eh ... |
| 00:50.11 | abrotman | !java package |
| 00:50.11 | dpkg | well, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
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| 00:50.30 | abrotman | phlpp: or maybe update-alternatives |
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| 00:50.57 | phlpp | i'll try that java-package method |
| 00:51.00 | jeffwheeler | I often install stuff and then forget about it; is there any way to see stuff I've recently installed through apt-get or aptitude, in order that I can remove recent things that I don't want to play with anymore? |
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| 00:51.28 | xtor_ | I cant get my IDE drive recognized in debian...this is just so fucked cuz linux is supposed to have better hardware support than windows :( |
| 00:51.51 | karmatronic | jeffwheeler: aptitude has a log file |
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| 00:52.39 | karmatronic | jeffwheeler: /var/log/aptitude |
| 00:52.44 | jeffwheeler | karmatronic: what about apt-get? I don't see anything in /var/log/, and I've historically used that more often. |
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| 00:52.53 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:52.58 | luigi1 | anybody knows how to move a window to a different workspace in ratpoison? |
| 00:53.12 | karmatronic | jeffwheeler: right ,only aptitude has a log file |
| 00:53.19 | abrotman | dpkg does also |
| 00:53.43 | gribouille | how can I get a list of all installed packages ? |
| 00:53.50 | luigi1 | dpkg -l |
| 00:53.52 | karmatronic | gribouille: dpkg -l |
| 00:53.57 | gribouille | ok, thanks |
| 00:55.14 | jeffwheeler | Hmm, /var/log/dpkg.log grepped for install seems to do the trick nicely; thanks karmatronic and abrotman. |
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| 00:57.11 | karmatronic | any idea why terminal becomes opaque when i launch compiz |
| 00:57.14 | karmatronic | ? |
| 00:57.26 | karmatronic | only occurs on my laptops though , not on the PC |
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| 00:58.16 | eclipse_ISSUE | hey guys ...need some help with eclipe-cdt installtion!? |
| 00:58.40 | miracle2k | why does the mysql-server-4.1 package depend on the exim packages? |
| 00:59.00 | eclipse_ISSUE | ANYBODY WHO COULD HELP ME WITH ECLIPSE (C++) INSTALLATION PLS ? |
| 00:59.37 | phlpp | hmmm |
| 00:59.39 | phlpp | abrotman: |
| 00:59.40 | phlpp | No matching plugin was found. |
| 00:59.41 | phlpp | Removing temporary directory: done |
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| 00:59.58 | abrotman | miracle2k: to email you when it dies |
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| 01:00.07 | phlpp | i get sth. like this when making the binary with make-jpkg |
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| 01:00.12 | phlpp | so i don't get any .deb |
| 01:00.30 | abrotman | maybe it doesn't know about the version of java you're trying to install |
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| 01:01.10 | phlpp | yeah, could be |
| 01:01.20 | phlpp | !java-package is linking to jre5.0 |
| 01:01.20 | dpkg | ...but java-package is already something else... |
| 01:01.30 | phlpp | i got sth. like java 6 update 3 |
| 01:01.37 | abrotman | that's pretty new |
| 01:01.44 | phlpp | hmpf :/ |
| 01:01.51 | eclipse_ISSUE | ECLIPSE C++ ERROR ON DEBIAN ETCH...ANY HELP? |
| 01:01.52 | phlpp | not again 18mb for OLD software |
| 01:01.57 | abrotman | maybe see if backports.org has a newer java-package |
| 01:02.02 | abrotman | eclipse_ISSUE: lay off the fucking caps lock |
| 01:02.12 | eclipse_ISSUE | ok |
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| 01:03.55 | eclipse_ISSUE | was trying to get attention...i got a little issue with eclipse. when i install eclipse-cdt, it sayd it needs jvm 1.5 or higher. i already have sun-java5-jre! |
| 01:04.27 | abrotman | jvm is not jre |
| 01:04.48 | abrotman | it probably wants the full JDK |
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| 01:04.57 | eclipse_ISSUE | i'm not very educated about java stuff...what package should install for this? |
| 01:05.02 | Edgardoweb | hi |
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| 01:05.47 | tarzeau | has someone tried midori yet? |
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| 01:05.55 | g3brown | I going to use Debian for a file server with 2TB of storage. Is there a preferred filesystem for that? ext3, xfs, etc? |
| 01:06.09 | tarzeau | g3brown: many files or large files or both? |
| 01:06.32 | dalias | hey what's the way to prevent apt from using diffs to update package lists? |
| 01:06.34 | tarzeau | g3brown: we use freebsd for our fileservers with up to 10 TB... that'd be debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 01:06.48 | abrotman | !pdiff |
| 01:06.48 | dpkg | as of apt version 0.6.44, apt now supports "pdiff" support, which allows apt-get update to download diffs of the Pacakges file of the repository instead of downloading the entire Packages file each time. you can disable the use of pdiffs by adding 'Acquire::Pdiffs "false";' to your /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 01:07.02 | g3brown | tarzeau: it's sort of split. Most of the space is media (dvd, blu-ray), but it also has data with many small files that I want good performance with too. |
| 01:07.08 | tarzeau | g3brown: but that's because they're old and linux 2.4 was in. these days 2.6 is at least as performant i guess |
| 01:07.09 | abrotman | ext3 |
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| 01:07.46 | g3brown | abrotman: you are suggesting ext3 for me? |
| 01:07.49 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:08.37 | g3brown | abrotman: is there a general reason why you suggest that? compatiablity, speed? |
| 01:08.52 | tarzeau | g3brown: i'd go for ext3 too |
| 01:08.56 | abrotman | g3brown: i'd say it's a good all around FS ... |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | g3brown: the onyl real way to find out is to test it yourself |
| 01:10.56 | g3brown | I've seen people complain about 5% reserved block feature. But can't you just turn that off? If you do set it to zero are there any ramifications to that? |
| 01:11.09 | tarzeau | g3brown: you can tell it how much to reserve |
| 01:11.32 | g3brown | tarzeau: yeah, I've set it to zero in the past on servers. I'm wondering if that was okay. |
| 01:11.41 | tarzeau | g3brown: sure, that's fine |
| 01:11.43 | abrotman | g3brown: is it going to be used for / ? |
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| 01:12.18 | g3brown | abrotman: no. I have a boot drive. I have 3 drives attached to raid card for data. |
| 01:12.31 | g3brown | abrotman: the boot drive with os is ext3 |
| 01:12.33 | abrotman | g3brown: then you don't have to reserve anything AFAIK |
| 01:13.26 | g3brown | abrotman: I've read where some have suggested keeping the reserved blocks, as they state it helps with defrag. |
| 01:13.56 | abrotman | uhm .. i don't know anyone who defrags ext2/3 |
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| 01:14.34 | pgr | hi |
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| 01:16.01 | g3brown | abrotman: yeah, me either. I sort of thought the guy saying that might not knw what he was talking about, but I know I don't know what I'm talking about so I still wondered. |
| 01:16.10 | pgr | i've just netinstalled debian, where could I find a list of packages to get X11 running? |
| 01:16.18 | abrotman | pgr: which WM do you want? |
| 01:16.40 | tarzeau | pgr: menu x-window-system-core |
| 01:16.42 | pgr | abrotman: icewm or xfce |
| 01:16.58 | abrotman | pgr: aptitude install xdm icewm xorg .. or whatever you want |
| 01:17.04 | karmatronic | pgr: apt-get install xfce4 should be neough in that case |
| 01:17.22 | tarzeau | karmatronic: i don't think so, unless he runs it remotely |
| 01:17.25 | ameyer | karmatronic: as I understand it, nope |
| 01:17.41 | pgr | ok, thanks, I had only installed xserver-xorg and had problems with fonts |
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| 01:17.58 | ameyer | aptitude install xserver-xorg (insert name of wm you want here) |
| 01:18.08 | abrotman | xorg |
| 01:19.02 | pgr | thanks, it's already working :-) |
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| 01:22.42 | pgr | if no plans for 3D graphics, is "nv" default driver fine or better to install nvidia's binary one? |
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| 01:23.48 | abrotman | pgr: yes .. nv should be fine |
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| 01:46.14 | sayers | azeem: I want to have the server be available by going to my domain |
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| 01:51.32 | Azar | dam quiet Saturday |
| 01:52.40 | Azar | moefoe: what random packages? |
| 01:52.47 | MU9214 | i keep getting this in my ssh terminal session: localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode is that bad? |
| 01:53.04 | moefoe | Azar: Unstable, testing, etc |
| 01:53.19 | Azar | moefoe: yeah gona break... slowly |
| 01:53.23 | tarzeau | just don't mix repos |
| 01:53.36 | moefoe | Azar: RedHat packages ... |
| 01:53.37 | tarzeau | Azar: not the randomness of packages, but the mixing of repos will |
| 01:53.37 | moefoe | ;) |
| 01:53.45 | MU9214 | anyone? |
| 01:54.21 | Azar | I remember I used to do that as a newbie.. and one day my browser dissapeared... then the games... next day no more window manager.... quietly you know |
| 01:54.29 | Azar | tarzeau: yeah |
| 01:54.53 | MU9214 | can someone help? I keep getting these messages: localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 01:55.01 | Azar | moefoe: Debian packages are a lot and really good for lots of needs |
| 01:55.40 | pgr | MU9214: i think that's related to frequency scaling, running at a lower frequency to save power, or something like that |
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| 01:55.49 | moefoe | Azar: 'specially one gotten of the net from non repositories ... |
| 01:55.51 | Azar | reality is... I am so happy with my old stable version, I have all I want that I am not really interested on any "extras" |
| 01:55.57 | sayers | is there any guide on how to setup 2 nameservers so I could connect my domain to my server? |
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| 01:56.13 | maasha | G'day |
| 01:56.26 | maasha | what is the best photo organizing tool these days ? |
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| 01:56.39 | Azar | moefoe: you suffer the mswindows users syndrom: download, download... anything, from anywhere until the system clogs with crappy stuff |
| 01:57.06 | moefoe | Azar: And then wipe & upgrade, yes. |
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| 01:57.29 | Azar | moefoe: which is a nonsense, if you want a stable, good running system |
| 01:57.41 | moefoe | Azar: Yes. |
| 01:58.07 | Azar | maasha: not sure but most known of is gimp, I also use feh (command line app) |
| 01:58.54 | Azar | maasha: photo organizing as in making a folder album? or you want tools to touch up, enhance.. etc ? |
| 01:59.16 | maasha | gimp is not good for organizing photos. feh is ok, but too primitive - I would like something that is able to pull the photos from the camera into neat folders automagically. |
| 01:59.18 | Azar | sayers: if I would know for sure I would help you... sorry |
| 01:59.28 | pgr | maasha: digikam for example |
| 01:59.34 | Azar | maasha: ah I see :) |
| 01:59.41 | maasha | there was a open source clone of acdsee at some point ... |
| 01:59.56 | maasha | pgr is that good stuff? |
| 02:00.00 | Azar | I like feh, as old as it is... |
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| 02:00.26 | maasha | Azar: feh is good for paging through lots of photos - it is just not an organizing tool |
| 02:00.46 | pgr | maasha: i use it to get photos from camera and organize them in folders and make searchs |
| 02:01.15 | maasha | pgr - yup, sounds like what I am looking for. I'll check it out. Are there others? |
| 02:01.49 | Azar | it's going like this tarzeau.. and who wants to hear me: someone makes a great application, then, after like what 2 years someone else comes with a similar tool only puts it on a desktop, icon, and some flashy little things... but buggy as hell: guess what , the second , newer tool is more sought because is "new" :) |
| 02:02.09 | maasha | oh, digikam is a KDE application. is there not an independant application? |
| 02:02.14 | pgr | maasha: you should also take a look to f-spot and kphotoalbum |
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| 02:02.27 | reiser2 | Hi |
| 02:02.52 | maasha | pgr kphotoalbum would be another KDE app? |
| 02:02.55 | pgr | yep |
| 02:02.56 | reiser2 | i have installed wpa_supplicant, but i can't find wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 02:03.03 | Azar | maasha: I never used for images anything else than feh... for like 3 years... and it does the job for me |
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| 02:06.36 | Tramp | reiser2: dpkg -L wpasupplicant |
| 02:07.04 | maasha | Azar - I have also used feh for many years, but still I want something a bit more advanced ... |
| 02:07.37 | Azar | maasha: well yah, ok |
| 02:08.08 | maasha | Azar of cause - if I fail in finding anything I like - Ill go back to feh |
| 02:09.10 | pihhan | hello |
| 02:09.37 | pihhan | i have problem with upgrading libode0 to libode0-dev |
| 02:10.00 | pihhan | it keeps saying broken pipe on paste command |
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| 02:10.13 | gribouille | whet does ${misc:Depends} mean ? |
| 02:11.08 | reiser2 | Tramp: i can`t see it |
| 02:11.12 | null____ | Question: New install, I want to move the upper panel to the bottom. I can't find a spot to right click or grab it from. |
| 02:11.18 | reiser2 | wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 02:11.56 | Tramp | reiser2: hmm. Fourth line from the top for me is "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa_supplicant.conf" |
| 02:12.02 | null____ | Well, that's not gnome-related because this isn't #gnome. |
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| 02:12.41 | reiser2 | ?? |
| 02:12.44 | Tramp | reiser2: well - actually the fifth |
| 02:13.01 | reiser2 | with find i can`t find it |
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| 02:15.27 | Tramp | reiser2: Although - I have to admit - I don't know what this file means 8). My real wpa_supplicant.conf is in /etc/wpa_supplicant |
| 02:15.29 | Azar | maasha: still standing and runny like the energizer bunny for four years without problems, that is yes, a good application. Simple, functional, stable. I would never go grab another tool. |
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| 02:16.04 | Tramp | reiser2: I remember having first copied a template there - according to the manpage for wpa_supplicant.conf - and then edited. |
| 02:16.13 | reiser2 | humm |
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| 02:16.30 | reiser2 | i think i have to create wpa_supplicant by myself |
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| 02:16.45 | reiser2 | but reading this http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsecur/article.php/3594946 |
| 02:16.54 | reiser2 | they said the file is there |
| 02:17.55 | tuv | suddenly nautilus won't show thumbs for new video files. totem-video-thumbnailer says: can't open file, Reason: Video codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies. -- am i missing a package? using totem-xine |
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| 02:19.39 | Tramp | reiser2: Well. This is more than a year old, not Debian-specific and they say "usually". |
| 02:19.50 | rcdarkangel_ | !codecs |
| 02:19.50 | dpkg | codecs is probably See <w32codecs>, or for a run-down of various free(ish) codecs and container formats, see http://www.avidemux.org/admForum/viewtopic.php?pid=19555 |
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| 02:20.08 | reiser2 | ok |
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| 02:20.35 | rcdarkangel_ | Though I dont believe that totem enjoys playing back h264 at all that well.... |
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| 02:53.33 | Azar | so now what, I am alone here? |
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| 02:53.33 | Azar | dpkg are you here? |
| 02:53.36 | Azar | damn I AM alone |
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| 02:53.37 | ameyer_ | looks like a massive netsplit |
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| 02:53.37 | Azar | ameyer_: only one server.. that I can see |
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| 02:53.37 | ameyer_ | Azar: umm, freenode lies like that |
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| 02:53.38 | Azar | eh weekend maintenance |
| 02:53.38 | ameyer_ | all netsplits are yourserver.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net |
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| 02:53.38 | vigilant | lol @ Azar |
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| 02:54.22 | ameyer | Azar: also, nickserv is MIA |
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| 02:54.24 | ameyer | oftc just massively split too |
| 02:54.24 | Azar | ameyer: for sure is a routine maintenance man |
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| 02:54.25 | ameyer | I sense a disturbance in the force... |
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| 02:54.26 | Supaplex | ameyer, my bad. cat5 has a broken locking tab. |
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| 02:54.26 | Azar | like yesterday... rushed to go early at work, had some plans to leave early and kaboom, the interface with main server went down on me and stupid me left main files on the Share drive.. |
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| 02:54.27 | ameyer | I think the entire internet just split |
| 02:54.27 | Supaplex | chain reaction |
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| 02:54.28 | Azar | hey we still are in the 500's |
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| 02:54.29 | Azar | hmm seen that freenode-info? something is going on |
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| 02:54.29 | Supaplex | what says ribbit, coughs up hairballs, and leaps a milk dish in a single bound? why it's Super_Cat_Frog! |
| 02:54.30 | Azar | haha |
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| 02:55.27 | Nyle | hmm |
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| 02:55.29 | Nyle | I like Cat-Dog |
| 02:55.29 | Nyle | you ever seen that cartoon on Nickelodeon |
| 02:55.29 | Supaplex | I like rotasarie chicken myself. |
| 02:55.29 | Nyle | Cow and Chicken used to be awesome but they took it off CN |
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| 02:55.30 | Nyle | momma had a chicken, momma had a cow, daddy was proud, didn't care how, da nana nana, da nana nana, cow and chicken |
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| 02:55.30 | Nyle | ahhhh boy |
| 02:55.30 | Azar | I only like Ninja Turtles |
| 02:55.30 | Nyle | have you seen the latest movie |
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| 02:55.30 | Azar | noe which one? |
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| 02:56.59 | Nyle | it just recently came out |
| 02:56.59 | Nyle | 3d animated very good |
| 02:56.59 | Azar | gotta see it |
| 02:56.59 | Azar | hi karsten :) |
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| 02:57.01 | simonrvn | kubrick went crazy... |
| 02:57.01 | simonrvn | lost nickserv too o_O |
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| 02:57.01 | Nyle | yup |
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| 02:57.01 | Edgardoweb | net send LOL |
| 02:57.01 | Azar | simonrvn: I see simmons... don't see kubrik |
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| 02:57.03 | Nyle | simmons? |
| 02:57.03 | Nyle | richard simmons |
| 02:57.03 | Azar | :P |
| 02:57.03 | simonrvn | before is disconnected from lubrick, there were 113 in the chan |
| 02:57.03 | Azar | like Nyle YOung? |
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| 02:57.05 | Nyle | Neil |
| 02:57.05 | Nyle | damn it |
| 02:57.05 | simonrvn | before i* |
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| 02:57.05 | Nyle | totally different name |
| 02:57.05 | Nyle | simonrvn: msg |
| 02:57.05 | Azar | eh is a lookalike |
| 02:57.05 | Nyle | Azar: you're a lookalike |
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| 02:57.05 | Azar | hahaha |
| 02:57.05 | Nyle | Azar: you're a lookalike ma foot! |
| 02:57.07 | Nyle | ahahaha j/k |
| 02:57.07 | Azar | bwahahaha |
| 02:57.07 | Nyle | seriously though |
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| 02:57.07 | Nyle | why do they allow sarah jessica parkers face on tv, she looks like a foot |
| 02:57.07 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 02:57.07 | Azar | :P |
| 02:57.07 | Nyle | family guy is awesome. so anyway, where is everyone |
| 02:57.07 | simonrvn | weirdest part was this strange person, kept coming in, saying "haaiiiiiiiiiiii" |
| 02:57.07 | simonrvn | then disconnected again |
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| 02:57.08 | Nyle | lol |
| 02:57.41 | Azar | I see 500 from my screen... |
| 02:57.41 | simonrvn | .:22:30:25:. < lia> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 02:57.41 | Azar | I am on a lucky server I guess |
| 02:57.41 | Nyle | why do people do that |
| 02:57.42 | Nyle | lulz |
| 02:57.42 | Nyle | lololol |
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| 02:57.42 | simonrvn | because they think it's a chat room |
| 02:57.42 | Nyle | ? |
| 02:57.42 | Nyle | morons |
| 02:57.42 | simonrvn | ignorant *shrug* |
| 02:57.42 | Azar | is the zombies weekend anyways |
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| 02:57.42 | simonrvn | was gonna tell him/her, that it's 'hi', and this isn't a chat room |
| 02:57.42 | Azar | time when kids test their botnets |
| 02:57.43 | simonrvn | yeh, "hallowe'en" |
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| 02:57.43 | Nyle | hey you ever heard that band called Ween? |
| 02:57.43 | simonrvn | and, full moon was yesterday, compound that with the weekend... O_O |
| 02:57.43 | Nyle | they kick ass too. Every other song sounds like a totally diff genre ofmusic and they do it well |
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| 02:57.43 | Nyle | simonrvn: full moon takes... its been 14 days since the end of ramadan already |
| 02:57.43 | Nyle | hmm |
| 02:57.43 | simonrvn | yeh, once. on some MTV import thingy CTV has. sounded ok |
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| 02:57.45 | Nyle | 16 actually |
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| 03:01.09 | simonrvn | ok, here we go... |
| 03:01.09 | dererk | omg |
| 03:01.09 | Azar | glad to see everyone back |
| 03:01.09 | simonrvn | HOLY SMOKES! |
| 03:01.10 | simonrvn | that's the biggest join i've ever seen in a long time |
| 03:01.10 | Azar | yeah who is on dialup crashes |
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| 03:01.11 | Azar | wols I guess is on dialup |
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| 03:01.13 | Azar | simonrvn: imagine all those joins saying "hello" all at once.. |
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| 03:01.13 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 03:01.15 | Azar | :) |
| 03:01.15 | simonrvn | @hi * |
| 03:01.15 | ravenbird | Many greetings, *, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 03:01.15 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 03:01.17 | Azar | simonrvn: I got this CD, Try by John Meyer. .. man.. long time haven't heard so nice music |
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| 03:01.17 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 03:01.20 | osmosis | what is ldconfig ? |
| 03:01.20 | Azar | dinamic linker? |
| 03:01.21 | simonrvn | build the ld.so.cache and scans the lib/ dirs for libraries for that cache. man it for more info |
| 03:01.21 | karmatronic | osmosis: the good question would be "what is man" :) |
| 03:01.21 | simonrvn | dy* |
| 03:01.30 | Azar | oh yeah :) |
| 03:02.00 | Azar | simonrvn: ever wrote with reversed ph/f? |
| 03:02.03 | Azar | is phun |
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| 03:03.04 | hackeron_ | karmatronic: well, there is no usb hub, the extender uses cat5 -- it seems only killing the power to the extender fixes the problem which doesn't happen on reboot. Is there anyway to cut the power to a usb port in Linux? |
| 03:04.33 | Azar | osmosis: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ < good to have handy |
| 03:05.00 | osmosis | Azar: cool |
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| 03:07.13 | karmatronic | hackeron_: i dont know but that s a good question,you could modprobe -r usbcore but that would stop all usb ports |
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| 03:08.32 | Azar | is this your email address? http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200710/error'd/emailverify.jpg hahaha |
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| 03:10.11 | Azar | omg wols was here! |
| 03:10.24 | Azar | and I talked bad about his connection ! |
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| 03:12.14 | hackeron_ | karmatronic: nope, just tried it, doesn't help :( |
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| 03:13.03 | Supaplex | !stinkpete |
| 03:13.16 | Azar | dpkg is not back yet |
| 03:14.48 | Supaplex | ~test |
| 03:14.48 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 03:14.54 | Supaplex | ~stinkpete |
| 03:14.59 | Supaplex | hurm... |
| 03:15.03 | Azar | apt is not so smart |
| 03:15.21 | Supaplex | some mystery branch? :P http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/dists/ |
| 03:16.31 | Azar | Label: Debian AMD64 archive |
| 03:16.31 | Azar | Suite: sarge-unsupported |
| 03:16.32 | Azar | Codename: stinkypete |
| 03:16.38 | Azar | there you got it |
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| 03:16.58 | Azar | maybe was the 64's labrat for sarge |
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| 03:17.25 | Azar | Supaplex: have you read that article about Customized Debian? |
| 03:17.52 | Azar | I would guess there are lots of folks with tailored Debians.. |
| 03:17.52 | Supaplex | I guess mit customized theirs huh? |
| 03:18.10 | CommonClone | I'm trying to install linux onto an old pentium-s but it won't boot from the CD for some reason...I have the bios set right and everything...any ideas? |
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| 03:18.37 | Azar | http://people.debian.org/~tille/debian-med/talks/paper-cdd/debian-cdd.html/ |
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| 03:19.11 | Azar | CommonClone: sure you setup the primary bootable to CD? |
| 03:19.20 | CommonClone | yes |
| 03:19.37 | Azar | does the CD spins at least? |
| 03:19.58 | Azar | the light lits up? you hear a noise? |
| 03:20.08 | CommonClone | azar, yes it lights up and spins |
| 03:20.12 | messboog | ok.. almost got everything figured out here... i'm trying to get my bcm4306 wireless card to work. dmesg shows it is loading and the radio is on.. however, when i goto scan available netorks(iwlist eth1 scan) i get no scan results. |
| 03:20.21 | Azar | CommonClone: and the screen? nothing on it? |
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| 03:21.45 | CommonClone | it says: Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM : 1. FD <some kind of weird characters> System Type-(00) and then right after that tries to boot from the HD |
| 03:22.37 | Azar | CommonClone: it should not. Once it reads the CD it should stay with it, not move to the HD |
| 03:23.02 | Azar | CommonClone: you burned that iso on the CD? |
| 03:23.07 | CommonClone | yes |
| 03:23.24 | Azar | well maybe it did not come out right, or maybe you picked the wrong architecture |
| 03:23.38 | CommonClone | Azar, I know some old CD-ROMS have some trouble booting from recorded cd's, could this be the case? |
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| 03:24.25 | Azar | CommonClone: honestly, I would not know, never burned a CD, my Debian CD are from net orders |
| 03:24.59 | Azar | I tried once to burn Debian, and ended up destroying 27 CDs... so never again for me |
| 03:25.23 | Supaplex | CommonClone: I've never really had any issues with it. make sure the session is closed? |
| 03:25.46 | Supaplex | yea, but now I usually netboot, or suggest www.goodbye-windows.com (when that applies) |
| 03:25.56 | Azar | I guess I am the only person online that has fear of burning CDs |
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| 03:26.37 | Azar | nothing like a well recorded iso... handy for recovery at any time |
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| 03:27.40 | CommonClone | well, I'm actually trying to use Damn Small, but no one is in that channel right now ;) |
| 03:28.08 | Guerin | fail |
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| 03:29.03 | CommonClone | what is netboot? |
| 03:30.02 | Supaplex | !netboot |
| 03:30.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, netboot is put your ethernet driver in kernel (NOT as a module), turn on IP: Autoconfiguration in network section, and Root filesystem on NFS (static, not module) in network filesystems section, then read Documentation/nfsroot.txt |
| 03:31.26 | pnano | #debian has user limit? or every channel does too? User limit reached |
| 03:33.07 | Azar | CommonClone: where from did you burned the Debian installer? |
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| 03:33.38 | CommonClone | Azar, its actually Damn Small, but I couldn't get anyone in that channel to help me |
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| 03:33.55 | Azar | CommonClone: so you don't actually want to install Debian? |
| 03:34.31 | CommonClone | well from what I understand when you install Damn Small from the live CD its actually Debian |
| 03:34.42 | Azar | uh no, is just a clone |
| 03:35.19 | Azar | get the real deal, install minimal (base) then see if you go with plain X + a window manager or can afford for a full desktop |
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| 03:35.58 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ << scroll down and read the documentation first |
| 03:36.11 | CommonClone | well I dont even need X or anything, its just going to be a file server for my home network |
| 03:36.34 | Azar | cool, read the instructions, get an idea and burn ... then install |
| 03:36.42 | Azar | hard to believe not gonna work |
| 03:37.23 | Azar | there are install options go with base (minimal) tasksel don't pick nothing but C |
| 03:37.50 | CommonClone | yeah, well I have a feeling that the issue is with isolinux, I read that some old hardware isnt supported by isolinux, but dsl has an installer that boots with syslinux...im d/ling it right now |
| 03:37.55 | messboog | douchbags |
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| 03:40.19 | kb3llm | i installed beryl via apt-get and the emerald diamond shows up in gnome, but the effects arent working, do i have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something? |
| 03:41.03 | Azar | CommonClone: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch < spoonfed installation |
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| 03:41.48 | Azar | kb3llm: sorry never installed such app man.. |
| 03:43.28 | Azar | Supaplex: could you enlighten me? My Sarge + all applications (no desktop tho) take 3% out of 110GB HD, exactly 2.3GB is that "unusual"? |
| 03:45.26 | Supaplex | Azar: but why sarge? |
| 03:45.34 | mmlj4 | there's your problem, you're still running sarge |
| 03:45.38 | Azar | well because works for me.. |
| 03:45.52 | Azar | problem? what problem? |
| 03:46.54 | kb3llm | can anyone help me with installing beryl/emerald on debian? |
| 03:46.59 | Azar | I run a Debian version that works to perfections, supports applications that I regulary need and use, without a flinch |
| 03:48.17 | Azar | so Supaplex.... is 2.2GB in use .... unusual? |
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| 03:50.05 | CommonClone | well I got my computer to boot from the dsl syslinux installer, man I forgot what 200 mhz was like |
| 03:50.42 | kb3llm | can someone walk me through install emerald/beryl on debian? |
| 03:51.01 | Azar | kb3llm: tried #beryl? |
| 03:51.10 | kb3llm | Azar: no.. thanks.. |
| 03:52.11 | sparr | Are there any debian-friendly ways to keep multiple versions of wine installed at the same time? |
| 03:52.58 | hackeron_ | does anyone use a cat5 usb extender? - I'm having trouble with mine intermitently "freezing" and nothing but physically disconnecting the extender (or unplugging the PC from the mains) makes the extender work again. Any ideas how to "reset" the extender from the OS? |
| 03:53.24 | kb3llm | Azar: umm.. they are no help........ i've asked three times, and they just ignore me. |
| 03:54.44 | sparr | hackeron_: removing the usb module might do it, but it would reset ALL your usb devices |
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| 03:55.00 | kb3llm | can someone walk me through installing beryl on debian? |
| 03:55.07 | hackeron_ | sparr: nope, doesn't :( -- neither does a reboot because there is still power given to the USB ports |
| 03:55.29 | sparr | hackeron_: and this happens with different devices on the other end? |
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| 03:56.59 | hackeron_ | sparr: well, I only tried webcams but it seems no matter what I plug in, it won't work until I unplug the usb extender from the PC and plug it back in again |
| 03:57.08 | flyinprogramer | alright, how do i get nph perl scripts working with apache2 in a debian environment ? |
| 03:57.17 | sparr | hackeron_: interesting. tried with another PC? |
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| 03:57.21 | pgr_ | bye |
| 03:57.24 | flyinprogramer | bye |
| 03:58.16 | hackeron_ | sparr: yep, same behaviour -- occationally, when thre's an electrical surge for instance, the usb extender just "freezes" and refuses to accept a new address until the power is cut to it, which means physically disconnecting it. |
| 03:58.42 | sparr | hackeron_: is this extender electronic or just a cable? |
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| 03:59.29 | hackeron_ | sparr: it's a cat5 extender: http://www.lindy.com/uk/productfolder/04/42801/index.php |
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| 04:00.38 | sparr | hackeron_: if the problem happens with multiple PCs and multiple USB devices, it seems obvious that the extender is faulty |
| 04:02.14 | hackeron_ | sparr: it happened with 5 extenders so far - the device works for weeks and then someone uses power tools for instance and one of the extenders "freezes" -- the question isn't if the extender is responsible, is what can be done about it from the OS :) |
| 04:02.57 | sparr | hackeron_: almost certainly nothing, on a typical PC. on some embedded devices you can electrically disable the USB ports, to save power, but you wont find that in a desktop device |
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| 04:05.52 | null | Question: What package is iwconfig part of? |
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| 04:06.57 | dalias | ask packages.debian.org |
| 04:07.31 | null | danke |
| 04:07.34 | dalias | or |
| 04:07.45 | dalias | if it's installed, dpkg -S /sbin/iwconfig |
| 04:07.53 | dalias | answer: wireless-tools |
| 04:07.56 | Rusty1 | null http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html |
| 04:08.10 | hackeron_ | sparr: hmm, those USB ports are on PCI cards - is there anyway to kill the power to the PCI ports? |
| 04:09.48 | greenmang0 | anybody having free shell account on alice.nipl.net? |
| 04:12.46 | xtor | My kernel detects my SATA devices just fine but it does not see my PATA devices. Is there any way to force detection of PATA? This is my entire dmesg dump --> http://pastebin.com/d6478381a |
| 04:13.51 | greenmang0 | !free shell account |
| 04:14.41 | sparr | hackeron_: again, mostly no. |
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| 04:15.00 | sparr | !go away |
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| 04:26.34 | Nyle | hey |
| 04:26.48 | Nyle | Azar: simonrvn: Guerin: anyone around |
| 04:26.58 | Nyle | !seen rahul |
| 04:26.58 | dpkg | rahul is currently on #debian (1h 34m 17s), last said: 'why can't you configure them how you want them?'. |
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| 04:28.02 | ameyer | !seen god |
| 04:28.03 | dpkg | god <i=SLLs_esL@201008066220.user.veloxzone.com.br> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 661d 11h 39m 25s ago, saying: 'is it true that debian can be used for web servers??'. |
| 04:28.58 | tort | god is dumb |
| 04:29.15 | ameyer | your god is dead, and no one cares... |
| 04:29.28 | ameyer | if there is a hell, I'll see you there |
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| 04:31.30 | nvz | I think my USB and/or PS2 system might have a short somewhere :P |
| 04:31.44 | Nyle | nvz: okk |
| 04:32.19 | nvz | my optical mouse has been going off or low light flickering and sometimes the keyboard goes off rarely |
| 04:32.41 | nvz | I went to try a diff usb port on the mouse and giggled the keyboard on ps2 and it rebooted |
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| 04:33.27 | nvz | if it were caps going bad it would not be rebooting thats got to be a short |
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| 04:33.46 | Schalken | wheres that thing on the internet that says what is holding up package x from getting into testing? |
| 04:34.09 | nvz | dpkg, why is foo not in testing? |
| 04:34.10 | dpkg | foo is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=foo |
| 04:35.11 | nvz | dpkg, botsnack. |
| 04:35.11 | dpkg | :), nvz |
| 04:35.40 | nvz | speaking of snacks a sandwich would be good right now |
| 04:35.43 | Schalken | ah, i didnt know gpkg did it too :) |
| 04:35.49 | Schalken | dpkg* |
| 04:35.55 | nvz | dpkg knows all |
| 04:35.55 | dpkg | Bob knows what he's talking about! Listen to Bob! |
| 04:36.02 | Schalken | lol |
| 04:36.42 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.45 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:38.10 | aindiles | any idea how to get nvidia module on amd64, kernel version > 2.6.18? |
| 04:39.16 | Schalken | aindiles: i just used the nvidia installer |
| 04:39.25 | aindiles | thanks |
| 04:39.42 | Schalken | aindiles: the "debian way" as described on the wiki confused the hell outta me and i think some packages are missing from the repos to do it properly |
| 04:40.04 | nvz | thats the reason I've been using the nvidia installer for the past few years |
| 04:40.10 | nvz | the debian way never seems to work right |
| 04:40.10 | Schalken | aindiles: and if it says something about the gcc version being used dw it should still work |
| 04:40.12 | Schalken | (did for me) |
| 04:40.21 | nvz | good idea, just doesnt work most of the time |
| 04:40.38 | aindiles | k thanks, I'll see what comes of it |
| 04:40.43 | Schalken | nvz: doesnt? ah well. did for me. |
| 04:40.59 | Schalken | nvz: why cant debian get nvidia packages in non-oss like ubuntu does? |
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| 04:43.33 | nvz | damn its sunday |
| 04:43.50 | nvz | seems like it was just sunday yesturday |
| 04:43.55 | shriphani_ | How do I install DOM in iceweasel? I seemingly have to reinstall it but how do I do a custom install and select "Install Developer Tools" ? |
| 04:44.02 | nvz | felt like sunday all week actually |
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| 04:49.02 | thelostbutler | hello folks, i am trying to run some captcha application, it complains that there are no gd libs , but i have php5-gd and libgd2-xpm installed. i would appreciate some help. phpinfo() doest show any gd support |
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| 04:50.01 | Supaplex | thelostbutler: is that module loaded in your php.ini? |
| 04:50.19 | thelostbutler | Supaplex: i have no idea. i am a noob |
| 04:50.49 | Supaplex | use the phpinfo to figure out where your php.ini is and look |
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| 04:51.52 | thelostbutler | Supaplex: ok will do thatnk |
| 04:52.35 | Supaplex | extension=gd.so |
| 04:52.55 | sf7_ | rpm -i wibble.rpm is failing. http://pastebin.com/m4e4dc33a can someone help? |
| 04:54.08 | Supaplex | you're installing rpm's why? :P |
| 04:54.08 | Supaplex | it's not the Retarded Package Mangler for nothing |
| 04:54.08 | SF7 | it is the only option other than compiling source |
| 04:54.08 | SF7 | =) |
| 04:54.12 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.41 | Supaplex | yes. this is akin to <bobbitt> |
| 04:54.43 | Supaplex | !bobbitt |
| 04:54.44 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system or "debian based distro". |
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| 04:54.48 | dalias | installing rpms on a non-rpm os is a VERY VERY BAD idea |
| 04:55.09 | dalias | supaplex, lol |
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| 04:57.50 | Supaplex | let's rehash bobbitt... |
| 04:57.55 | Supaplex | !bobbitt |
| 04:57.56 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>. |
| 04:58.06 | Supaplex | enjoy. |
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| 05:02.30 | osmosis | how do I get it so that when I ssh to a host it doesn't ask me for my ssh key keyphrase every time? kind of defeats the purpose. SHouldnt it just ask me once and then let me be for x minutes? Enter passphrase for key 'id_rsa': |
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| 05:03.54 | Supaplex | ssh-add |
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| 05:14.02 | predder | I'm just partitioning an ibook to install Debian on it, I've read that I need to create a partition for a "boot strap". Will this ever be mounted from within Debian (ie as /boot) or is it just a once-off during boot time? |
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| 05:16.47 | osmosis | What config setting on a ssh server would prevent public key authentication from working? |
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| 05:17.21 | mohkohn | I am getting an error on a custom kernel. "Alert /dev/sda4 does not exist" |
| 05:17.52 | mohkohn | I have updated udev already. Is there another reason why I am having this problem? |
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| 05:21.03 | sf7_ | i did: apt-get install gcc-m68hc1x, now how to find where it put it? |
| 05:21.26 | tort | cd / ; find -iname gcc-m68hc1x |
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| 05:21.52 | predder | how do I modify the information that dpkg holds about a topic? |
| 05:22.08 | sf7_ | find / -name gcc-m68hc1x |
| 05:22.16 | sf7_ | oops wrong console |
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| 05:22.49 | liable | sf7_: usually in /usr/bin/ |
| 05:23.51 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.20 | predder | SF7 no, deb packages contain absolute paths, not relative ones |
| 05:24.38 | liable | it could in theory, but debian has policies about where stuff gets installed |
| 05:24.57 | predder | if you want to modify where something is installed from a deb you will have to modify the deb itself |
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| 05:25.21 | predder | liable, how do I tell dpkg to modify an existing entry about something? |
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| 05:25.27 | predder | (the bot) |
| 05:25.30 | SF7 | so apt-get gets a .deb then runs it? |
| 05:25.34 | Guerin | you don't want to install things in different places |
| 05:25.40 | predder | SF7, correct |
| 05:25.43 | Guerin | you wan to use symlinks |
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| 05:26.12 | predder | apt-get handles getting the .deb packages, dpkg handles the physical install |
| 05:27.00 | liable | predder: i can never get that right myself.. its foo =~ s/bar/blah/ or similar |
| 05:27.52 | predder | eh? I mean something like /msg dpkg foo is actually bar |
| 05:28.33 | liable | oh, if you want to change the whole thing, dpkg no foo is bar |
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| 05:30.16 | _da98 | How can I tell which network device is what interface? |
| 05:30.38 | predder | are you running etch or later? |
| 05:30.56 | _da98 | yes |
| 05:30.57 | predder | !z25 |
| 05:30.57 | dpkg | methinks z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory. |
| 05:31.14 | predder | less that file _da98 ^^ |
| 05:31.24 | predder | it will contain the device to eth* mappings |
| 05:31.44 | _da98 | Oh, neat! |
| 05:31.53 | _da98 | predder: thanks |
| 05:32.43 | muh2000 | nslookup for ipv6 ? |
| 05:32.54 | muh2000 | is there a tool for that task? |
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| 05:33.17 | predder | check out the dnsutils package |
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| 05:35.52 | muh2000 | dnsutils seems to be only for setting hostname. |
| 05:36.16 | vsayikiran | cico: do you remember me |
| 05:36.57 | vsayikiran | cico: are you there |
| 05:37.54 | _da98 | predder: can you also use that magic trick with openvpn tunnel names? |
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| 05:38.14 | vsayikiran | i am unable to delete files in pen drive |
| 05:38.16 | predder | _da98, i'm not familiar with openvpn tunnelling sorry |
| 05:38.25 | _da98 | predder: k |
| 05:38.28 | vsayikiran | is there any way to format a pen drive |
| 05:38.32 | predder | vsayikiran, is it mounted read-only? what is the filesystem |
| 05:38.39 | Guerin | same as any other drive |
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| 05:39.19 | vsayikiran | predder: it is vfat, mounted as rw, when i umount ir it becomes ro , then again if i umount it it unmounts permanently |
| 05:39.22 | simonrvn | Nyle: i'm more flat than round |
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| 05:39.31 | Nyle | what? |
| 05:39.37 | Nyle | why? |
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| 05:40.25 | simonrvn | Nyle: you asked if i was around |
| 05:40.25 | vsayikiran | predder: when i try to delete a file then the file is deleted but again it reappears |
| 05:40.28 | mohkohn | I am still stuck on this "Alert /dev/sda4 does not exist" problem. |
| 05:40.36 | Nyle | omg |
| 05:40.43 | mohkohn | For a custom kernel. |
| 05:40.54 | mohkohn | then drops to busybox. |
| 05:41.08 | Nyle | simonrvn: ahh boy |
| 05:41.19 | Gm4n | is there any way to repartition a system installed as all one partition without losing any data? I want to partition the drive into multiple parts (and have them be different filesystem types) |
| 05:41.25 | vsayikiran | predder; i need your help |
| 05:41.48 | vsayikiran | /info cico |
| 05:42.15 | streuner | !info cico? |
| 05:42.32 | vsayikiran | !info cico |
| 05:42.55 | streuner | dpkg> Package 'cico?' does not exist. |
| 05:43.17 | simonrvn | duh ;) |
| 05:43.17 | predder | Gm4n, what you need to do is first unmount your filesystem (or boot into a livecd if it's /), resize the filesystem and then resize the partition |
| 05:43.30 | predder | then you can edit the partition table to make use of the remaining space |
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| 05:43.34 | Gm4n | it's /. which livecd do I want to use? |
| 05:43.35 | vsayikiran | cico is name of a user i want to whether he is online or not? |
| 05:43.41 | predder | I obviously _highly_ recommend backing up |
| 05:43.43 | Gm4n | (oh dear, /., lol) |
| 05:43.58 | Gm4n | predder: no way to do a backup, but it's a pretty fresh system |
| 05:44.01 | predder | Gm4n, probably knoppix considering it's a Debian derivitive |
| 05:44.06 | vsayikiran | predder: tell me whats the problem with pen drive |
| 05:44.13 | predder | well wipe and start again Gm4n ;) |
| 05:44.23 | Gm4n | predder: not *that* fresh ;) |
| 05:44.30 | predder | vsayikiran, I'm not sure sorry. I read what you said |
| 05:44.36 | streuner | vsayikiran: /msg dpkg seen <user> |
| 05:45.00 | Gm4n | so knoppix is best for resizing debian and derivatives, what about other distros? |
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| 05:45.41 | predder | well I'd use a redhat based one if you were using a redhat based distro, but that's just me |
| 05:46.08 | predder | vsayikiran, if you can afford to lose the data why not mkfs.fat /dev/sd<device letter> ? |
| 05:46.54 | predder | Gm4n, I'm not sure what GNU/Linux util you can use for resizing a partition. I hear a lot of talk about parition magic but I've never used it and I don't think it's freeware |
| 05:47.21 | vsayikiran | predder: i can afford to lose data , but it is write protected ? |
| 05:47.22 | predder | have a look at UBCD (ultimate boot cd) for a collection of free utilities on a bootable cd. Surely that will have something you can use |
| 05:47.47 | predder | vsayikiran, are you sure your device doesn't have one of those little locks on it? |
| 05:48.00 | predder | a remanent of the floppy era that prevents writing data to the device |
| 05:48.24 | predder | examine it for a switch or similar |
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| 05:48.24 | loquitus_of_borg | Can you (anyone) recommend an open source video streaming server solution for running on a Linux box? I want to be able to stream out videos I have in AVI or MPEG format so that people visiting my "website" can view videos in their browser or with Windows media player or real player or something. |
| 05:48.37 | Guerin | loquitus_of_borg: vlc |
| 05:48.47 | vsayikiran | predder: contents inside pen drive do have locks |
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| 05:49.06 | predder | vsayikiran, i'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 05:49.16 | black_13 | how do would i go about eliminationg all bootup messages to the console |
| 05:49.27 | vsayikiran | predder: if you can spare 10 mins for me , then i can give you all details |
| 05:49.27 | mohkohn | here is my tale of woe: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11533 |
| 05:49.29 | predder | I'm talking about a switch on the physical flash drive housing that enables/disables write protection |
| 05:49.38 | predder | 10 minutes? that's a long explanation |
| 05:50.08 | predder | I honestly doubt I'll be able to help - you seem to know what you're doing about as much as me ;) |
| 05:50.18 | vsayikiran | predder: i meant that some files inside pen drive have a lock like emblem |
| 05:50.43 | predder | oh, you're referring to some GUI? |
| 05:51.12 | predder | so perhaps you have insufficient privileges rather than the files being read only |
| 05:51.17 | vsayikiran | predder: to use mkfs.vfat do i have to umount the device |
| 05:52.13 | vsayikiran | predder: /dev/sdb1 on /media/RAJU NALLA type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8), this is the output of mount |
| 05:52.49 | vsayikiran | predder: now look it is mounted rw, so i should be able to read and write |
| 05:53.01 | predder | but you might not have sufficient privileges to do so |
| 05:53.09 | predder | unless you mounted it as your current user |
| 05:53.16 | predder | and yes, to format you must have the device unmounted |
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| 05:54.17 | vsayikiran | predder: but with other pen drive i am able to delete and make changes to it contents |
| 05:55.01 | vsayikiran | predder: only this pendrive is giving problem, even the file permission are exactly same on both pen drive |
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| 05:55.31 | vsayikiran | predder: i was logged in root terminal and deleting the files as root |
| 05:55.47 | predder | and you still had access denied? |
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| 05:57.24 | Gnu_Raiz | Success finally got some of my problems solved! |
| 05:57.31 | vsayikiran | predder: see this is file permission of a file "-rwx------ 1 sayikiran sayikiran 197120 2007-08-24 17:00 New Folder.exe", this is a winxp virus file |
| 05:57.40 | Gnu_Raiz | this will make the third time the channel was wrong! |
| 05:58.25 | liable | demand a refund! |
| 05:58.26 | predder | vsayikiran, why have you not just unmounted it and formatted? |
| 05:58.31 | Gnu_Raiz | As some of you know I was given the advice to remap all my drives. |
| 05:59.06 | Gnu_Raiz | I want my 2 cents! |
| 05:59.15 | vsayikiran | predder: i have to execute umount twice to unmount it ? what is the problem? |
| 05:59.38 | Gnu_Raiz | Anyway I have a sata and an ide hard drive! |
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| 06:00.40 | Gnu_Raiz | the sata is the bigger of the drives with 160 Gb so I use the 80 Gb as a Windows only drive. Since need to dual boot due to my wifes work, she needs access to .ppt, and .doc nativly. |
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| 06:00.54 | predder | you probably have the mount open in a gui or you're cd'd to the mount point somewhere |
| 06:01.27 | Gnu_Raiz | I have a new nvidia based mcp68pv based board which I don't have the chipset drivers too. |
| 06:01.43 | vsayikiran | predder: no my pwd is my home directtory, i have niether opened any gui? |
| 06:02.12 | predder | well, i'm all out of ideas i'm afraid |
| 06:02.19 | vsayikiran | predder: i deleted the file like this 'rm /media/labelname autorun.inf |
| 06:02.37 | predder | if you don't care about data loss just yank the device and plug it back in |
| 06:02.41 | vsayikiran | predder: my pwd is /home/username |
| 06:02.43 | Gnu_Raiz | anyway it turns out that regardless of how I set the boot order in the bios, or use F11 to select it it wants to be /dev/sda or (hd1,0) |
| 06:02.44 | predder | then don't mount it |
| 06:03.25 | vsayikiran | predder: it auto mounts so how to disable that setting? |
| 06:03.33 | Gnu_Raiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.42 | Gnu_Raiz | then it works. |
| 06:03.57 | mohkohn | I am really stuck. I need wireless. |
| 06:04.02 | Gnu_Raiz | I also had to use sata_nv to have it see my drives. |
| 06:04.31 | mohkohn | to get it I have to have kernel 2.6.23.1 |
| 06:04.41 | vsayikiran | predder: this is what happens after executing rm /media/labelnameofpendrive/New Folder.exe, "?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /media/RAJU NALLA/New Folder.exe", what does it mean? |
| 06:05.02 | predder | the filesystem is corrupt perhaps |
| 06:05.22 | vsayikiran | predder: so you think formating will help |
| 06:05.24 | Gnu_Raiz | I also have to commend on Debian, I installed the fglrx ati drivers with a script and everything works even with big desktop. Under ubuntu it would not go to big desktop. |
| 06:05.49 | predder | perhaps your desktop environment is doing the automount vsayikiran...? and yeah. Formatting will re-write the filesystem |
| 06:06.01 | vsayikiran | predder: these viruses are creating lot of trouble |
| 06:06.03 | theatro | Gnu_Raiz, what is a big desktop? |
| 06:06.05 | Gnu_Raiz | it was stuck in clone mode. I would have to edit it manually :( |
| 06:06.20 | vsayikiran | predder: even linux is not spared |
| 06:06.30 | Guerin | hey, when building something with cpp, do I still use the CC environment variable to specify a particular compiler? |
| 06:06.38 | Gnu_Raiz | It's ati speak for extended desktop, I use dual monitors and it extends it across both heads. |
| 06:06.52 | Gnu_Raiz | in nvidia talk it would be twinview. |
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| 06:09.33 | vsayikiran | predder: after executing umount this is output of mount command, "/dev/sdb1 on /media/RAJU NALLA type vfat (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)" , now theres a ro thats why i am not able to delete anything nor make any changes |
| 06:09.39 | CommonClone | I'm trying to set up samba sharing and whenever I click on the share in the file manager it asks me for the root password and I type it in but nothing happens...any ideas? |
| 06:10.12 | Gnu_Raiz | when I run lspci I get a boat load of unknown devices even my ati card is unknown. but it works. |
| 06:10.14 | Guerin | hollandaise recipe |
| 06:10.16 | vsayikiran | predder: so how to make the 'ro' to 'rw' |
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| 06:10.39 | Guerin | hm, you're not google |
| 06:11.29 | Gnu_Raiz | so who has linux support for nvidia mcp68pv, come up with nothing. |
| 06:11.56 | Gnu_Raiz | I want to find some drivers for my unknown devices. |
| 06:12.06 | liable | Gnu_Raiz: update-pciids |
| 06:14.04 | vsayikiran | unable to format pendrive |
| 06:14.13 | Gnu_Raiz | just ran that and no go this what it tells me I have. |
| 06:14.34 | Gnu_Raiz | SDevice: Unknown device e191 |
| 06:14.41 | Gnu_Raiz | that is on my ati card. |
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| 06:16.52 | vsayikiran | mkfs command not found, what is this nonsense? |
| 06:17.05 | cico | /leave #debian |
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| 06:17.29 | vsayikiran | cico: i need your hlep |
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| 06:18.15 | Gnu_Raiz | vsayikiran: you probably need to be root, and depending on your file system might need a prefix such as mkfs_jfs or something such. |
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| 06:18.57 | vsayikiran | Gnu_Raiz: i am running mkfs under root terminal isnt it sufficient? |
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| 06:19.25 | Gnu_Raiz | depends on file system, you might want to check out gparted. |
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| 06:20.11 | vsayikiran | Gnu_Raiz: even mkfs.vfat doesnt exist |
| 06:20.20 | dalias | mkfs.dos maybe |
| 06:20.29 | Supaplex | !install it |
| 06:20.33 | Supaplex | !installit |
| 06:20.33 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 06:20.49 | Supaplex | !tell vsayikiran -about apt-file |
| 06:21.09 | Gnu_Raiz | In actuality, mkfs is simply a front-end for the various file system |
| 06:21.09 | Gnu_Raiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.22 | Gnu_Raiz | taken from the man page for mkfs |
| 06:22.14 | vsayikiran | Gnu_Raiz: tell me one thing how to mkfs.vfat a pen drive when it is unmounted |
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| 06:23.21 | Xenguy | Edgardoweb: turn that off please |
| 06:23.42 | vsayikiran | Gnu_Raiz: when i executed this command mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1, this is what i got "mkfs.vfat: No such file or directory |
| 06:23.44 | vsayikiran | " |
| 06:24.15 | vsayikiran | Gnu_Raiz: then whats the problem |
| 06:24.19 | Gnu_Raiz | their are a lot of howto for flash drives |
| 06:24.29 | Gnu_Raiz | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
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| 06:32.42 | elenril | hi |
| 06:32.53 | elenril | is it a bug or i am doing something wrong |
| 06:32.53 | elenril | http://www.pastebin.ca/752276 |
| 06:34.02 | tort | what happens if you sudo ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 06:34.03 | tort | ? |
| 06:34.23 | Guerin | sudo? |
| 06:34.29 | elenril | i've already reverted to unstable ifupdown |
| 06:34.43 | elenril | otherwise internet won't work |
| 06:34.45 | Guerin | that doesn't seem wise |
| 06:35.18 | tort | sudo doesnt seem wise? |
| 06:35.29 | elenril | but i guess it would do the same as ip link set wlan0 up |
| 06:35.33 | tort | what would you suggest then, to access a protected function? |
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| 06:36.40 | tort | guerin? |
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| 06:40.18 | QwErTz__ | Hi, I have a problem with MRTG and I thought maybe someone knows about it and can point me to something, cause I checked for 2 hours and I dont see any solutions, a lot of people flagged that problem. I am trying to get the CPU monitoring to work (which works fine on my old sarge machine) |
| 06:40.32 | QwErTz__ | in the mrtg log I get "Unknown SNMP var ssCpuRawUser.0" |
| 06:41.43 | QwErTz__ | the conf is setup the same way as on the working machine, the MIB paths are written the same way. I can access ssCpuRawUser.0 thru snmpwalk no problem |
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| 06:51.26 | maddash | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 8.42.3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:51.33 | maddash | AIGLX, BABY!!!!!! |
| 06:51.47 | liable | if it works.. |
| 06:52.07 | maddash | if it didn't, would it make sense to woo? |
| 06:52.29 | maddash | woooooooo, spinning cube! |
| 06:53.11 | maddash | amphi: fglrx 8.42.3! AIGLX! |
| 06:54.23 | maddash | brb. spinning cube is making me dizzy. |
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| 07:26.42 | lhz | is rc2.d run ? |
| 07:27.47 | tort | ? |
| 07:27.50 | xingu | aah, finally the poxy curse that is dst is lifted |
| 07:28.22 | tort | we changing times tonight or something? |
| 07:28.47 | xingu | dunno about your region, but uk is back on utc again |
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| 07:29.02 | jkitchen | GMT you mean, right? |
| 07:29.07 | xingu | no, I mean utc |
| 07:29.12 | jkitchen | UTC is without leap seconds, i thought |
| 07:29.14 | Phobos | Hi. How do I find the uuid of a disk ? |
| 07:29.27 | xingu | it's utc that has leap seconds |
| 07:29.32 | jkitchen | ahh. |
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| 07:30.07 | xingu | utc is rubidium regulated, gmt is solar; gmt wobbles, and is about as useful as a chocolate teapot |
| 07:30.55 | xingu | or to put it another way, 1s worth of skew puts you in a different country (for much of the globe) from leo |
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| 07:34.21 | xingu | tort: if you're stateside you've still got 1w to go; but obviously "sh3lls.us" is servicing the whole planet, so you may well not be. :) |
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| 07:34.54 | xingu | this is my favourite week of the whole year; east coast is _-6_ :) |
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| 07:39.45 | xingu | hmm, "DNS service time", measured in what, pray tell, pfemptoseconds? |
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| 07:41.06 | xingu | milliseconds, sayeth Henrik, and he oughta know |
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| 07:43.32 | mohkohn | Still working on this "Alert /dev/sda4 does not exist" |
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| 07:43.45 | mohkohn | details here. http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11533 |
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| 07:44.11 | ryty | mohkohn: does partition 4 show up in "cfdisk /dev/sda" ? |
| 07:44.25 | ryty | by the way, don't make changes if you're looking. |
| 07:44.57 | xingu | mohkohn: update-initramfs -ctk linux-image-2.6.23.1-custom |
| 07:45.02 | ryty | sda* sorry |
| 07:45.14 | xingu | mohkohn: assuming, of course, that you've used make-kpkg to build it |
| 07:45.41 | mohkohn | ryty, not in the new kernel |
| 07:45.58 | mohkohn | xingu, i will try that |
| 07:46.03 | xingu | mohkohn: oh; also, before you go... |
| 07:46.22 | xingu | mohkohn: use e2label to label your / filesystem |
| 07:46.23 | mohkohn | yes xingu |
| 07:46.35 | xingu | mohkohn: then change fstab to be LABEL=whatever / ext3 ... |
| 07:46.58 | xingu | mohkohn: and, change your grub config for root=LABEL=whatever |
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| 07:47.37 | xingu | mohkohn: 2.6.23 deprecates the old IDE drivers completely; so your usb filesystem is probably now on /dev/sdb with your cdrom on /dev/sg0 if you follow. |
| 07:47.48 | xingu | well, sr0, but whatever. |
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| 07:48.33 | mohkohn | ok just to be clear xingu should I do the update-initramfs -ctk linux-image-2.6.23.1-custom.. |
| 07:48.35 | xingu | mohkohn: so your problem is likely to be that /dev/sda is no longer what you think it is - it's probably the first (bus-order-initialisation-wise) ATA peripheral - your cdrom, perhaps your hdd |
| 07:48.42 | xingu | mohkohn: do that very last. |
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| 07:48.52 | mohkohn | ok clear |
| 07:48.56 | xingu | mohkohn: fix e2label/fstab/grub config first |
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| 07:49.09 | xingu | mohkohn: then reinspect grub config again before reboot |
| 07:49.54 | xingu | mohkohn: anyway, fs labels are designed to deal with this issue, and the bootloader and mount are both well aware of what to do with them |
| 07:50.01 | mohkohn | this will effect all of my kernels? I should update-grub? |
| 07:50.57 | xingu | mohkohn: it's been safe to use them for quite some time, so yes probably; also your swap won't be on /dev/sda3 if this theory of mine is right too; you can create a swap label by swapoff'ing your current device, and then passing appropriate command line args to mkswap or whatever it is |
| 07:51.33 | xingu | mohkohn: mkswap -L swaplabel /dev/sda3, then change /sda3 none swap to LABEL=swaplabel none swap |
| 07:51.58 | xingu | mohkohn: I tend to use things like "root", "usr", "var", "swap" as my labels if you're struggling for a naming schema. |
| 07:52.47 | mohkohn | what about proc? |
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| 07:53.16 | xingu | mohkohn: leave that one alone, no need to tinker |
| 07:53.25 | mohkohn | ok |
| 07:54.16 | mohkohn | I am looking at this at the moment: http://www.linuxfortherestofus.com/?p=56 |
| 07:54.16 | xingu | mohkohn: nb, if this doesn't work, you've left off the module that /dev/sda uses |
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| 07:55.22 | xingu | mohkohn: perhaps we should check that first (2s, fetching for a way to do this) |
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| 07:58.26 | mohkohn | xingu that is also a possibility because the relevant modules are not loading |
| 07:58.39 | xingu | mohkohn: what does lsscsi -H say ? |
| 07:58.55 | mohkohn | in my working kernel? |
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| 07:59.13 | xingu | mohkohn: you don't need to use /dev/disk/by-label/ - you can just use LABEL=... directly in that field in fstab (mount/fsck are label-aware) |
| 07:59.16 | xingu | mohkohn: yep. |
| 07:59.25 | xingu | mohkohn: but either way is good. |
| 07:59.45 | mohkohn | command not found |
| 07:59.50 | mohkohn | in working kernel |
| 07:59.52 | xingu | mohkohn: apt-get install... |
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| 08:00.35 | mohkohn | ? |
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| 08:00.46 | xingu | mohkohn: install lsscsi then run. |
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| 08:02.13 | mohkohn | xingu, [0] sata_via [1] sata_via |
| 08:02.40 | prgmrchris | does anyone know if theres a way to interact with whiptail via arguments or sending it signals? im trying to make a script that sets up a nfs boot environment and i want to suppress for example the prompt when install ssh that asks "do you want to run the sshd server" i tried apt-get install -y but that doesn't seem to work with scripts that interact via whiptail |
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| 08:04.07 | xingu | mohkohn: ok, and grep SATA_VIA /boot/config-2.6.23.1-custom ? |
| 08:04.21 | Qantourisc | mind someone explain me why there are somany packages version in the trees ? |
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| 08:04.41 | mohkohn | no result |
| 08:04.51 | dimir | Moin! |
| 08:05.19 | Qantourisc | coi lo'a gy. dimir gy. |
| 08:05.32 | mohkohn | sounds like I need to recompile?? |
| 08:05.32 | xingu | mohkohn: none at all? does that file /boot/config-2.6.23.1-Custom exist? |
| 08:05.44 | |DawnLight| | how long can a bios flash take... :( |
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| 08:06.13 | xingu | |DawnLight|: shouldn't be more than 5-10min |
| 08:06.27 | |DawnLight| | it's been about 10 |
| 08:06.38 | xingu | |DawnLight|: leave it another 5 but sounds busted. :) |
| 08:06.45 | |DawnLight| | hold me... |
| 08:06.46 | mohkohn | in my menu.list title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.23.1-custom |
| 08:07.00 | xingu | mohkohn: does that file /boot/config-2.6.23.1-custom exist? |
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| 08:07.47 | mohkohn | config-2.6.23.1-custom |
| 08:07.51 | mohkohn | it is there |
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| 08:08.17 | xingu | mohkohn: ok in that case your new kernel lacks the driver you need for your hdd; so the next question is how/why, and that's back over to you - you built it. |
| 08:08.55 | mohkohn | xingu I need it for my wireless. I used make oldconfig |
| 08:09.03 | xingu | mohkohn: I mean, not only does it lack the driver, but it also lacks the -ve match message in .config, which would have been "# CONFIG_SATA_VIA is not set" |
| 08:09.07 | xingu | mohkohn: and that is pretty dire. |
| 08:09.24 | xingu | mohkohn: something is seriously busted about the way you built that kernel |
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| 08:10.06 | mohkohn | I should remove that kernel and begin again ensuring I put the sata_via in there? |
| 08:10.56 | xingu | I think so yes; unless you've made a typo with that grep statement... |
| 08:12.24 | mohkohn | no worries the first step. apt-get remove -purge linux-image-2.6.23.1-custom and the headers? |
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| 08:13.12 | xingu | seems likely :) |
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| 08:13.22 | Qantourisc | if i install apt 0.7.8 |
| 08:13.32 | Qantourisc | will i be able to reinstall synatpic later ? |
| 08:13.58 | mohkohn | ok xingu thanks. I think you have pointed me on the right track. |
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| 08:14.32 | BBHoss_Work | can someone help me setup virtual hosts on apache2? I've read the docs and setup accordingly, but i keep getting an error: VirtualHost blog.2gac.net:0 overlaps with VirtualHost www.limestonecc.com:0, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive |
| 08:14.48 | |DawnLight| | Qantourisc: whats wrong with your current version of apt? |
| 08:15.43 | Qantourisc | |DawnLight|: don't get me started :) but it says it has a beter interface/usage .... witch is about what i need right now ... several ... illogical errors occur |
| 08:15.59 | |DawnLight| | Qantourisc: use aptitude |
| 08:16.00 | Qantourisc | witch are given to me in dutch ... with makes it pointless to paste them here |
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| 08:16.24 | |DawnLight| | !tell Qantourisc about aptitude |
| 08:17.03 | Qantourisc | |DawnLight|: explian me though ... what is the "core" of the debian package manager ? |
| 08:17.15 | |DawnLight| | dpkg |
| 08:17.21 | maddash | apt |
| 08:17.36 | Qantourisc | 2 answers :) |
| 08:17.48 | |DawnLight| | but maddash, aptitude doesn't use apt-get? |
| 08:17.51 | Qantourisc | now what is the right one ? (me believes |DawnLight| ) |
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| 08:18.23 | Qantourisc | |DawnLight|: so why the deps-installation-handeling OUTSIDE dpkg ? |
| 08:18.39 | maddash | Qantourisc: huh? you're asking about the package management system, not the frontend, right? |
| 08:18.46 | |DawnLight| | i didn't make it, brother |
| 08:18.54 | Qantourisc | so no clue :) |
| 08:19.09 | |DawnLight| | but in any case... |
| 08:19.10 | |DawnLight| | !why aptitude |
| 08:19.10 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 08:19.19 | Qantourisc | aptidutde indeed does a better job |
| 08:19.25 | maddash | |DawnLight|: true |
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| 08:19.53 | |DawnLight| | at the core of debian's package system is witchcraft |
| 08:19.56 | Qantourisc | compared to synaptics ... this actualy list "to be removed" and stuff |
| 08:20.04 | Qantourisc | |DawnLight|: haha :) |
| 08:20.39 | maddash | and at the core of witchcraft is a mischievous, super-hot space babe. |
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| 08:20.50 | |DawnLight| | Qantourisc: you can configure aptitude to either automitically install reccomendations or not. i go with the latter |
| 08:21.05 | |DawnLight| | and the babe |
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| 08:21.24 | maddash | |DawnLight|: DON'T TOUCH! |
| 08:21.32 | |DawnLight| | !! |
| 08:21.33 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 08:22.04 | |DawnLight| | why am i inside walls?! |
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| 08:22.33 | maddash | DawnLight: my shift key thanks you |
| 08:23.20 | SF7 | I just apt-get install'ed some package. but I don't know what the executable is called, or where it got put. what is the best way to find out? |
| 08:23.24 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: btw what bothers me: if i isntall apt-x.7.8 he will UNINSTALL gnome ? |
| 08:23.31 | mohkohn | cp /boot/config-`uname -r` ./.config should give a reasonable basis to start a .config file? |
| 08:23.44 | DawnLight | i am going to be a little course and say "FUCK". FUCK! this never happened to me before. a BIOS flash is just standing there for some 20 minutes! |
| 08:23.44 | maddash | sf7dpkg -L pkgname |
| 08:23.45 | Qantourisc | is this correct / sane / normal / won't actually remove gnome ? |
| 08:23.50 | maddash | sf7 ^^ |
| 08:24.04 | DawnLight | SF7: /usr/share/doc/package_name |
| 08:24.07 | maddash | DawnLight: coarse* |
| 08:24.25 | maddash | DawnLight: fuck no. who in their right mind goes through docs? |
| 08:24.36 | DawnLight | :/ |
| 08:24.37 | maddash | sf7: dpkg -L pkg|grep bin |
| 08:24.47 | maddash | haha! |
| 08:24.55 | Qantourisc | mohkohn: yes ... aldo i personally prefer an EMPTY list ... since debian has a LOT of modules on (about all) |
| 08:24.57 | DawnLight | :p |
| 08:25.07 | DawnLight | !DawnLight |
| 08:25.07 | dpkg | i guess dawnlight is just cool |
| 08:25.12 | maddash | !maddash |
| 08:25.12 | dpkg | it has been said that maddash is a <genius> |
| 08:25.19 | DawnLight | !genius |
| 08:25.19 | dpkg | methinks genius is at http://www.5z.com/jirka/linux.html#genius (An arbitrary precision integer and multiple precision floatingpoint calculator) or something a guy named Cicero wrote about saying "Careful attention to small detail often proves superior to genius." |
| 08:25.19 | maddash | yay!' |
| 08:25.49 | DawnLight | you are an arbitrary integer and multiple precision blah blah blah? |
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| 08:26.03 | DawnLight | hehehe |
| 08:27.07 | Qantourisc | i check e d the deps on the new aptidude |
| 08:27.12 | Qantourisc | it has issues :) |
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| 08:27.20 | Qantourisc | that cause gnome to be unstinstalled |
| 08:27.27 | DawnLight | it does and it is you job to solve them |
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| 08:27.37 | xingu | DawnLight: time to start researching whether or not your bios supports a failsafe/ rescue boot mode :) |
| 08:27.42 | maddash | Qantourisc: why don't you paste the cli output? |
| 08:27.47 | DawnLight | press E in aptitude and check the docs |
| 08:27.50 | xingu | DawnLight: generally, I do this *before* flashing, but ymmhv |
| 08:28.15 | DawnLight | actually the box boots. seems it didn't actually flash |
| 08:28.32 | DawnLight | i am wondering whether i should try again... |
| 08:28.45 | Qantourisc | maddash: no need it's simple => synaptics Needs apt-get *.6 => gnome needs synaptics => apt-get new version *.8 causing trouble :) |
| 08:29.10 | DawnLight | so how cool is aptitude, huh? |
| 08:29.12 | maddash | Qantourisc: gnome doesn't need synaptics |
| 08:29.14 | xingu | worth a shot, if at first you don't succeed, try again - and do some real damage |
| 08:29.24 | mohkohn | Quan |
| 08:29.28 | xingu | if it doesn't fit, force it, if it breaks it needed replacing anyway |
| 08:29.31 | SF7 | whats the point of /usr/share/doc/...? |
| 08:29.36 | Qantourisc | maddash: i know, yet the package list says so |
| 08:29.42 | SF7 | thx maddash |
| 08:29.45 | DawnLight | i don't really have anything broken BIOS-wise or otherwise with that box |
| 08:29.50 | maddash | Qantourisc: b/c you're installing recommended pkgs |
| 08:30.01 | Qantourisc | ?b/c |
| 08:30.05 | Qantourisc | !b/c |
| 08:30.05 | dpkg | hmm... b/c is because, and mind you we are not aol! See u, ne1. |
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| 08:30.21 | Qantourisc | maddash: no clue i'm not allowed to change that :) |
| 08:30.23 | maddash | my keyboard likes 'b/c' better |
| 08:30.48 | DawnLight | but funny enough, i have done the same flash in another mobo the same model |
| 08:30.50 | maddash | Qantourisc: er, aptitude under root, then Options > Depend handling |
| 08:31.35 | maddash | NOOOOOOOOOOOO ! Firefly was canceled! |
| 08:31.37 | DawnLight | yes, Qantourisc, ^ like i told ya |
| 08:32.32 | DawnLight | ok no flashing for this board. ok? OK? |
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| 08:37.26 | Qantourisc | for the nvidia drivers what is the differnce between nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-2-k7 and nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7 ? |
| 08:38.45 | Qantourisc | aa i think i see |
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| 08:41.21 | Qantourisc | aptiude >> synaptics |
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| 08:54.47 | DawnLight | yoooooooooooohooooooooooooooo |
| 08:54.59 | yigal | does anyone here use the unstable branch and epiphany as your default browser? If so I have a question for you |
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| 08:55.38 | DawnLight | yigal: ma kore? why unstable? |
| 08:56.31 | DawnLight | !sid upgrade |
| 08:56.32 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 08:56.44 | DawnLight | !gentoo |
| 08:56.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 08:56.58 | yigal | DawnLight: epiphany with unstable's xulrunner and epi.'s browser doesn't seem to have spell checking capabilities and this is a real bummer for me right now |
| 08:57.18 | yigal | DawnLight: I mean the version of each seem to matter a great deal, |
| 08:57.33 | yigal | DawnLight: in whether spell checking is possiblee |
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| 08:57.57 | Qantourisc | !nvidia |
| 08:57.57 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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| 08:58.19 | yigal | DawnLight: you are having fun using dpkg |
| 08:58.20 | DawnLight | yigal: that is what you're going to see more of when using unstable |
| 08:58.34 | DawnLight | ken ken ken! |
| 08:58.49 | DawnLight | dpkg: i love you |
| 08:58.50 | dpkg | I love you too, dawnlight. |
| 08:58.59 | yigal | DawnLight: I have used Debian unstable for 3 years and your answer doesn't help me solve my problem |
| 08:59.22 | DawnLight | yigal: it may |
| 08:59.25 | yigal | DawnLight: actually more like 2 |
| 08:59.31 | yigal | DawnLight: no it didn't |
| 08:59.45 | DawnLight | that's your choice |
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| 09:00.15 | yigal | DawnLight: and your to not answer my question but give me an irrelevant answer to a very specific question |
| 09:00.43 | DawnLight | good luck anyway, and keep on using unstable, if you really want to. if you are submitting bug reports its a good contribution |
| 09:01.18 | DawnLight | you are really a pioneer |
| 09:01.31 | yigal | DawnLight: perhaps |
| 09:01.36 | DawnLight | hehe |
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| 09:05.34 | cmanns | Good Night! |
| 09:05.53 | DawnLight | night! |
| 09:05.56 | yigal | to be honest as a desktop user I have found Sid to be far more stable than *buntus but this is of course rather subjective |
| 09:06.01 | yigal | cmanns: sleep tight |
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| 09:06.41 | DawnLight | thats why we're using debian, aren't we |
| 09:06.57 | DawnLight | that, and the wonderful people we meet here |
| 09:07.23 | xingu | DawnLight: nah, it's the fear of change that keeps me planted |
| 09:07.23 | yigal | DawnLight: what desktop environment do you mostly use KDE GNOME ? |
| 09:07.37 | xingu | "it's the herbs and spices" "no, it's the way it's cooked" |
| 09:07.45 | yigal | xingu: it takes a lot to really switch from one distro to another I find |
| 09:07.47 | DawnLight | xingu: fear is the worst enemy |
| 09:07.58 | DawnLight | KDE! |
| 09:08.33 | yigal | DawnLight: I like KDE but by default it is pretty sloppy, GNOME is simple to begin with and I use a terminal most of the time anyways. |
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| 09:09.30 | Qantourisc | lol ? startx: "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist)" |
| 09:09.40 | Qantourisc | modprobe nvida ? => not an issue ? |
| 09:09.43 | DawnLight | you're right. no point going kde when you're not using the nifty features. i'm a heavy desktop user :) |
| 09:09.44 | yigal | Qantourisc: I had that happen to me |
| 09:09.51 | Qantourisc | yigal: solution ? |
| 09:10.01 | yigal | Qantourisc: how did you install nvidia/ |
| 09:10.06 | Qantourisc | aptitude |
| 09:10.12 | Qantourisc | precompiled |
| 09:10.24 | DawnLight | !nvidia |
| 09:10.25 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
| 09:10.33 | Qantourisc | (nvidia-kernel-2.6) |
| 09:10.37 | yigal | Qantourisc: sorry I have to think back perhaps 6 months and it may be a little different |
| 09:10.48 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: i didn't find a "issues" part ... let me looks again |
| 09:10.49 | dutchfish | i want to run a script when a machine is iddle for foo minutes, where to hook it up? |
| 09:11.07 | DawnLight | Qantourisc: ou followed that and has a glitch? |
| 09:11.11 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: nope my error isn't listed |
| 09:11.19 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: somewhat |
| 09:11.27 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: let me follow it step by step ... :( |
| 09:11.30 | DawnLight | dude. not supposed to happen |
| 09:11.57 | yigal | Qantourisc: do you have the glx packages installed? |
| 09:12.13 | Qantourisc | yigal: that isn't a dep ? /me checks |
| 09:12.29 | DawnLight | remove all your nvidia stuff and start over. if you're using an original debian kernel, go with the precompiled packages way |
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| 09:12.46 | Qantourisc | lol it isn't :) |
| 09:12.54 | Qantourisc | i'd suspected that to be a dep :) |
| 09:13.29 | yigal | Qantourisc: yes, the user space libraries are needed :) |
| 09:13.30 | DawnLight | i think a have an nvidia to install today also |
| 09:13.55 | dutchfish | i want to run a script when a machine is iddle for foo minutes, where to hook it up? so basically when --power-state changes it must run |
| 09:13.55 | Qantourisc | yigal: i would have putted that as a dep of the nvidia-kernel :) |
| 09:14.15 | yigal | yes, but it isn't? that's amazing? |
| 09:14.30 | DawnLight | dutchfish: perhaps something that has to do with apic or acpi |
| 09:15.17 | yigal | dutchfish: hey if you find out would you tell us, that sounds like a really neat idea |
| 09:15.24 | dutchfish | DawnLight, could be, what i want to acomplish is start firestarter and firewall 2way the machine when its going iddle |
| 09:15.51 | dutchfish | DawnLight, also set governer to ondemand for energie saving |
| 09:16.21 | yigal | dutchfish: hey check out loadwatch I just googled a bit looks promising |
| 09:16.39 | dutchfish | yigal, ill check hold on |
| 09:16.46 | DawnLight | dutchfish: ask dpkg on stuff like (guessing) power saving, powersaved, acpid, acpi, apic |
| 09:17.08 | dutchfish | DawnLight, already took the factoids-road, but thx |
| 09:17.37 | DawnLight | dutchfish: when you find exactly what you need, don't forget to write a factoid! |
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| 09:19.35 | dutchfish | DawnLight, sorry never did a factoid because i dont know how to add one ... [hits myself hard] |
| 09:19.37 | yigal | dutchfish: so for instance you would set -d foo*60 for loadwatch etc... |
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| 09:20.24 | DawnLight | dutchfish: /msg dpkg <something> is <blah blah blah>. /msg dpkg help |
| 09:20.42 | dutchfish | DawnLight, thx that would help :) |
| 09:20.52 | DawnLight | dpkg: dutchfish is fly |
| 09:20.52 | dpkg | okay, DawnLight |
| 09:21.08 | azeem | dpkg, forget dutchfish |
| 09:21.08 | dpkg | i forgot dutchfish, azeem |
| 09:21.18 | azeem | DawnLight: please don't spam the dpkg database with nonsense |
| 09:21.28 | yigal | !beer everyone |
| 09:21.34 | DawnLight | no nice azeem. you don't forget a guy fish like that |
| 09:21.37 | dutchfish | !fish |
| 09:21.37 | dpkg | from memory, fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered? |
| 09:21.43 | tort | mmmmmmmmmmm, german wheat beer |
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| 09:22.02 | yigal | tort: only the best for you my friend |
| 09:22.03 | Qantourisc | in apptidude where do i select a different package version ? |
| 09:22.04 | ecm | hey |
| 09:22.22 | DawnLight | azeem: and why not? isn't dpkg here also for our amusement? |
| 09:22.59 | DawnLight | Qantourisc: press enter on the package and go all the way down |
| 09:23.06 | tort | dpkg: fire is Light a fire for a man, he will be warm all night. Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life |
| 09:23.07 | dpkg | I'm sorry, is Light a fire for a man, he will be warm all night. Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 09:23.19 | tort | ? |
| 09:23.36 | azeem | DawnLight: nope |
| 09:23.52 | DawnLight | azeem: :p |
| 09:24.07 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: aa thx |
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| 09:25.55 | yigal | Qantourisc: are you still having problems? |
| 09:25.55 | Seaprince | anybody knows how can i have a site-specific php.ini file? |
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| 09:26.16 | Seaprince | i saw the hoster at aplus.net can modify his own php.ini |
| 09:26.21 | DawnLight | Seaprince: try #php |
| 09:26.32 | Qantourisc | yigal: more like trying to figure out how to work with debian atm :) that my main timeeater atm |
| 09:26.57 | DawnLight | !atm |
| 09:26.57 | dpkg | well, atm is (Asynchronous Transfer Mode) A networking protocol designed to move multimedia data around with high reliability and speed. Some ISPs use ATM as the protocol for their backbones. or 'at the moment' or someplace to pickup some cash for a $1.50. |
| 09:27.04 | Qantourisc | yigal: going to try m-a insterad now |
| 09:27.29 | DawnLight | Qantourisc: shouldn't make a difference |
| 09:27.32 | yigal | Qantourisc: building is usually better from my experience |
| 09:27.33 | Qantourisc | i know |
| 09:27.42 | Qantourisc | (for both of you) =) |
| 09:27.52 | dutchfish | DawnLight, nope load-watch isnt my tool it wil then rerun many times my script instead of one time |
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| 09:27.59 | Seaprince | DawnLight: i am sharing my server with debian installed to my friends |
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| 09:28.40 | Seaprince | #apache |
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| 09:29.31 | DawnLight | now i have a spare pentium 2 box, with which i don't know what to do! |
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| 09:30.08 | Qantourisc | the modules is build |
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| 09:30.12 | Qantourisc | still X refuses to load it |
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| 09:30.35 | DawnLight | Qantourisc: i have a feeling you are doing something fishy |
| 09:30.47 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: hmmm ? such as ? |
| 09:31.09 | Qantourisc | quote "The root cause seems to ba that the latest Xorg changes the directory hierarchy and the latest NVIDIA 8756 driver don't seems to know about it." |
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| 09:31.23 | Qantourisc | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/no-display-xorg-nvidia-driver-broken-after-etch-update-failed-to-load-module-glx-452126/ |
| 09:31.27 | DawnLight | hmm... are you following the instructions like a german soldier? |
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| 09:32.58 | DawnLight | Qantourisc: i never used startx. perhaps you should use your *dm |
| 09:32.59 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: i didn't do anything differnt that is allowed to make a difference |
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| 09:33.21 | Qantourisc | DawnLight: that will give the same error (unless debian does something increadibly fishy) |
| 09:33.26 | dutchfish | DawnLight, got it: /etc/acpi/events (i need to put my script there) prolly thats it, ill test it out |
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| 09:33.56 | DawnLight | don't test it, dutchfish, read about it... |
| 09:34.16 | mohkohn | my tale of woe for reference. http://www.debianhelp.org/comment/reply/11533/40700 |
| 09:34.25 | dutchfish | DawnLight, i dont follow you now ... |
| 09:34.55 | DawnLight | dutchfish: read the documentation on acpi and that events/ directory |
| 09:35.16 | mohkohn | I recompiled and this time I got the scsi_mod installed |
| 09:35.22 | mohkohn | correction http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11533#comment-40704 |
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| 09:35.49 | dutchfish | DawnLight, yes i did, but not shure if my script will work because it interferes with the cpu governer |
| 09:36.01 | mohkohn | In single user mode the boot fails at: usb 4-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
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| 09:36.47 | DawnLight | i'm gonna play some DiRT. syl! |
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| 09:38.04 | mohkohn | Cannot find /lib/modules/linux-image-2.6.23.1-custom |
| 09:38.07 | Qantourisc | i hereby request that the nvidia-installation gets fixed |
| 09:38.33 | mikes1 | ditto |
| 09:38.36 | mikes1 | damn |
| 09:38.53 | mikes1 | so easy in Sidux |
| 09:39.06 | Qantourisc | MikeS also in gentoo emerge nvidia-drivers |
| 09:39.07 | Qantourisc | done |
| 09:39.14 | mikes1 | Nvidia in etch has got me neat |
| 09:39.19 | mikes1 | beat |
| 09:39.21 | mikes1 | :( |
| 09:39.42 | Qantourisc | (aldo you need to run that each time you update each time you update the kernel, but that's a small effort compared to this) |
| 09:40.36 | Qantourisc | but this must be some xorg - syminking error |
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| 09:42.05 | grub | hi, if i use testing in place of lenny in sources.list |
| 09:42.15 | grub | do lenny and testing, stay in sync? |
| 09:42.24 | grub | properly that is? |
| 09:42.25 | mikes1 | yes |
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| 09:42.29 | grub | ok, thanks |
| 09:43.01 | mikes1 | Like Etch and stable |
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| 09:43.53 | grub | cool |
| 09:43.57 | DukeDrake | hi |
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| 09:44.42 | cydork | grub: just remember when lenny goes stable, your system will try to upgrade to latest testing. |
| 09:44.52 | DukeDrake | I got some oddness here: it takes about 5sec from entering the login name until the password prompt appears (on console) |
| 09:45.14 | DukeDrake | Anyone know where this may come from? |
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| 09:45.25 | grub | cydork, cool, so it doesn't gets freezed with lenny? |
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| 09:45.47 | cydork | grub: not if you use testing in sources.list |
| 09:46.13 | grub | cydork, ah, ok ty |
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| 09:48.17 | TwinX | hi, i can't find gdebi package with synaptic on Lenny. What am I doing wrong :S |
| 09:48.46 | liable | !info gdebi lenny |
| 09:49.04 | cydork | hmm seems like it was removed.. |
| 09:49.06 | liable | doesnt exist |
| 09:49.16 | cydork | !why gdebi is not in testing |
| 09:49.16 | dpkg | gdebi is not in testing for the reasons list in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gdebi |
| 09:49.18 | TwinX | ughh |
| 09:49.39 | TwinX | ah coll thanks |
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| 09:52.06 | osl | hi everybody , i wanna ask about installing the linux base system to certain directory , can anyone help ?? |
| 09:52.22 | osl | i was told to do this : |
| 09:52.31 | osl | debootstrap sid /NFSROOT/kerrighed http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
| 09:53.26 | osl | but my linux is ubuntu , and since ubuntu is debian based, should the above line work fine with ubuntu ?? |
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| 09:55.23 | cydork | osl: yes it should work fine.. |
| 09:55.47 | osl | Thanx cydork |
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| 09:55.54 | yang | Is there a way to sort and see how much disk size the packages use? |
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| 09:56.36 | cydork | yang: aptitude --sort installsize -F '%p %I' search '~i' |
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| 09:58.24 | yang | cydork: thanks |
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| 10:04.42 | tamiya | hey guys |
| 10:04.57 | rcdarkangel_ | Hello |
| 10:05.00 | tamiya | Is there a way to determine the date I installed my Debian system? |
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| 10:05.32 | yang | is there a need for "locales" packages if my default locate is English ? |
| 10:05.51 | yang | locate/locale |
| 10:05.52 | rcdarkangel_ | I can offer answers to neither of those I am afraid, damn me and my lack of exp |
| 10:06.10 | tamiya | rcdarkangel: :) |
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| 10:07.02 | tamiya | What about a log file that would have been created on the date of installation (and not modified since)? Does sucha file exist? |
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| 10:09.04 | tamiya | I think I might have. 'ls -l' on / shows the date on home, bin and boot to be the same date and almost same time |
| 10:09.04 | Killavus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.09 | Killavus | Hm |
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| 10:09.27 | Killavus | Someone have libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4? |
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| 10:10.18 | DukeDrake | I got some oddness here: it takes about 5sec from entering the login name until the password prompt appears (on console)... how come? |
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| 10:13.03 | cydork | tamiya: check /var/log/installer |
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| 10:15.19 | sleek | hello |
| 10:15.40 | sleek | I want to set all vfat mounts with the option umask=0000 |
| 10:16.00 | sleek | I am using hal , so how do I set this to run automatically ? |
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| 10:16.27 | sleek | I have been looking at the policy scripts but I don't know which one to edit |
| 10:16.29 | tamiya | cydork: thanks!!!!! very useful find!! :) |
| 10:17.27 | liable | i hate it when i do something and then forget, and notice it at a latter date and wonder what the hell happened |
| 10:17.56 | DawnLight | +.5 |
| 10:18.12 | streuner | !hakadance liable |
| 10:18.20 | streuner | hm |
| 10:18.22 | eth01 | apparently this is wrong -> http://pastie.caboo.se/111703 |
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| 10:18.26 | DawnLight | yeah, right |
| 10:18.47 | liable | streuner: give in, i haven't seen you get that right in three tries! |
| 10:19.26 | DawnLight | does etch actually get critical bug fixes that aren't security? |
| 10:19.38 | liable | nope |
| 10:19.57 | DawnLight | why? |
| 10:19.58 | liable | the only things it gets that arent security are things in volatile |
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| 10:20.09 | DawnLight | !volatile |
| 10:20.09 | dpkg | from memory, volatile is debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.org/ |
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| 10:21.32 | streuner | liable: someone removed the cmd. |
| 10:21.51 | sleek | anyone can help me with hal scripts ? |
| 10:22.19 | liable | streuner: bastards! |
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| 10:22.37 | rmaj | hello people |
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| 10:23.15 | sleek | no people here. I think this room is filled with eliza clones |
| 10:23.55 | DawnLight | sleek: don't eggsaturate. there are some people here |
| 10:24.15 | sleek | lies. I wont be tricked ! |
| 10:24.30 | DawnLight | darn |
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| 10:24.40 | streuner | dpkg: hakadance $1 is <action> puts $1 into a world of hurtin' and dance the Haka around |
| 10:24.41 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
| 10:24.51 | streuner | !hakadance liable |
| 10:25.11 | streuner | liable: ;-) |
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| 10:26.18 | liable | dances! :P |
| 10:26.30 | streuner | thanks :-P |
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| 10:29.02 | DawnLight | debian-volatile is nice. nothing there for me but's nice |
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| 10:29.52 | DawnLight | uuh i know what i'll do today! a date server! what is the package? |
| 10:30.09 | sleek | date-me-tonight |
| 10:30.10 | DawnLight | i mean a time server |
| 10:31.06 | streuner | you surely need ntpdate |
| 10:31.13 | Killavus | Hey |
| 10:31.15 | streuner | !info ntpdate |
| 10:31.19 | dpkg | ntpdate: (client for setting system time from NTP servers), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-2 (sid), Packaged size: 56 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
| 10:31.24 | DawnLight | thanks a bunch |
| 10:31.26 | Killavus | someone have solution of dependencies of aptitude? |
| 10:31.30 | DawnLight | !ntpdate |
| 10:31.31 | dpkg | i heard ntpdate is a program that sets a system's clock using one of more NTP-servers. It's useful for setting the time occasionally (like on boot or connecting to internet). ask me about ntp. Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just run ntp-server, add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf, and make sure -g is among the NTPD_OPTS in /etc/defaults/ntp. |
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| 10:31.46 | sleek | that's the client, a part of many |
| 10:33.05 | Killavus | libapt-pkg-libc-6.6-6-4.4 <- someone have that package? |
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| 10:33.40 | Killavus | libapt-pkg-libc-6.6-6-4.4 <- someone have that package? 'cause it is needed for aptitude... >.< |
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| 10:34.34 | DawnLight | nope |
| 10:34.57 | Killavus | Argh. |
| 10:35.02 | Killavus | Stupid dependencies. |
| 10:36.10 | codynotes | Hi guys. I'm trying to build the source package for netatalk manually since it doesn't have OpenSSL support. I'm doing: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us. But it complains about all these missing dependencies, two of which are mutually exclusive. |
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| 10:36.13 | DawnLight | Killavus: it is actually a virtual package which leads to apt |
| 10:36.14 | liable | Killavus: i dont have it installed, and my aptitude works |
| 10:36.24 | codynotes | I already have the netatalk package installed -- why would there be missing dependencies? |
| 10:36.25 | Killavus | DawnLight |
| 10:36.26 | sleek | Killavus, let me guess.. you tried to upgrade libc ? |
| 10:36.34 | Killavus | sleek: I've updated apt |
| 10:36.53 | xingu | sleek: see /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi |
| 10:37.02 | Killavus | Następujące pakiety mają niespełnione zależności: aptitude: Wymaga: libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 ale nie da się go zainstalować |
| 10:37.05 | Killavus | E: Pakiety są błędne |
| 10:37.13 | Killavus | ;s |
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| 10:37.23 | sleek | xingu, it's full of comments.. and there's another one in /usr/share/hal |
| 10:37.27 | Killavus | I don't have libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 |
| 10:37.28 | streuner | liable: i thought it was hakadance, but i created first hakasmite... |
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| 10:38.21 | liable | streuner: silly you then :P |
| 10:38.22 | Killavus | So? |
| 10:38.23 | Killavus | ;s. |
| 10:38.24 | xingu | sleek: I'd take a guess that you're going to need to make a match target based on storage.* props (fstype? guessing) and set a merge key ...mount_option.umask... as appropriate. |
| 10:38.43 | sleek | yeah |
| 10:38.50 | sleek | I'm looking at here.. http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~mark/random/hal/ |
| 10:38.50 | xingu | sleek: and extrapolating from common sense I'd assume the /etc vers. has tightest binding |
| 10:38.55 | sleek | near the middle |
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| 10:41.16 | pjharper__ | any reason why my laptop is not powering down when I shutdown -h now. reboot doesn't work either. |
| 10:41.28 | xingu | sleek: from your link - http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/hal/hal/doc/spec/hal-spec.html?view=co#ov_hal_linux26 - 2.3.1 |
| 10:41.43 | xingu | sleek: describes the volume.* namespace quite nicely; indeed, it will be match key on volume.fstype |
| 10:41.53 | sleek | yep I have that |
| 10:41.58 | DawnLight | pjharper__: check acpi |
| 10:42.06 | sleek | trying to merge umask option now |
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| 10:42.18 | pjharper__ | DawnLight, how do I do that? |
| 10:42.32 | xingu | sleek: so just butcher the sync/noatime match target for 1GB devices and pervert to set umask=000 for removable fstype=vfat |
| 10:42.38 | xingu | sleek: should, logically, do the do. |
| 10:42.43 | sleek | :) |
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| 10:42.57 | xingu | sleek: obviously uncomment it too (<!-- ... -->) |
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| 10:43.30 | DawnLight | pjharper__: find out what acpi is, how it is implemented in debian, and why it isn't working for you. but actually, this might not be the case. what exactly happens when you type reboot? |
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| 10:44.42 | sleek | xingu, do I need to send a sighup signal to hald ? |
| 10:44.44 | xingu | sleek: per comment at the top, you might want to create a local-preferences.fdi or something |
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| 10:44.53 | xingu | sleek: I'd probably invoke-rc.d restart it |
| 10:44.58 | streuner | liable: dont make me edit hakasmite then :-) |
| 10:45.05 | xingu | sleek: unsure of consequences, prepare for your desktop to die. |
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| 10:45.35 | pjharper__ | DawnLight, my screen kind of fades then nothing. It never shutsdown |
| 10:45.41 | streuner | liable: its early in morning, and i didnt use it that much... |
| 10:46.03 | pjharper__ | it may be like this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kubuntu-shut-down-blank-screen-537139/ |
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| 10:46.57 | sleek | aww no luck |
| 10:47.29 | sleek | <match key="volume.fstype" string="vfat"> |
| 10:47.29 | sleek | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:47.38 | sleek | with the appropriate closing tags |
| 10:48.29 | xingu | sleek: maybe you need =0000 ? unsure |
| 10:48.43 | xingu | sleek: and I hope your whole <device ... > isn't commented out? |
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| 10:49.04 | sleek | last time I checked, the option is appended as "umask=" in some other file |
| 10:49.10 | sleek | nope xingu |
| 10:49.26 | sleek | I have <deviceinfo> <device> before <match> |
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| 10:49.43 | xingu | sleek: aah ok; you might be able to debug some of this with lshal to find the device key then hal-get-property |
| 10:49.52 | Qantourisc | what is the gcc-config tool for debian ? |
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| 10:50.24 | xingu | sleek: for me, I see volume.mount.valid_options ... "uid=" |
| 10:50.38 | xingu | sleek: so maybe try that instead of umask ie umask= |
| 10:51.00 | sleek | ok |
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| 10:52.02 | axscode | hi,, i have a usb drive... using HD of laptop with enclosure. using IDE-to-USB that is... can someone help me how to mount it using debian etch? |
| 10:52.59 | pjharper__ | should there be a module called acpi? |
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| 10:54.39 | xingu | sleek: in theory you should be able to see your changes bind with lshal I guess? |
| 10:54.54 | xingu | sleek: ie, volume.mount props set for the udi's that match |
| 10:55.04 | pjharper__ | This has been a frustrating day. It is 2007 and I need to hold the start button down to turn my computer off and no wireless! |
| 10:55.45 | pjharper__ | I think time to give up...till next weekend. |
| 10:55.51 | sleek | xingu, how do I see the change ? |
| 10:56.02 | pjharper__ | thanks for those who tried to help today. |
| 10:56.06 | sleek | lshal just lists removal and 'added' action here |
| 10:56.09 | pjharper__ | ttfn |
| 10:56.10 | xingu | sleek: lshal - just dump all props, then go looking for volume.mount.* |
| 10:56.11 | sleek | nothing of policy selection |
| 10:56.32 | sleek | I used lshal --monitor btw |
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| 10:58.24 | xingu | sleek: hmm; and you definitely have <deviceinfo ... <device ... <match ... ? |
| 10:58.31 | xingu | sleek: and no <!-- 's? |
| 10:58.38 | sleek | xingu, ok I tried lshal -u <myvolumeID> -l |
| 10:58.41 | sleek | I have this |
| 10:58.42 | sleek | volume.policy.mount_option.umask= = '0000' (string) |
| 10:58.46 | sleek | in the list |
| 10:58.52 | xingu | ok now we're cooking |
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| 10:59.09 | xingu | so at least the udi changes are applying |
| 10:59.13 | sleek | I'm thinking maybe it's not string ? |
| 10:59.14 | sleek | ok |
| 10:59.19 | xingu | now it's just a fiddly matter of lex and type |
| 10:59.20 | xingu | so yes |
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| 11:01.18 | DawnLight | bah! which to choose? chrony, ntp, openntpd, rdate? i want it to act as a server too so the server box in my network will synch online and serve the time to the lan |
| 11:01.39 | xingu | DawnLight: ntp |
| 11:01.46 | DawnLight | will do |
| 11:03.00 | OXIj|zzZ | how to redirect http reguest to another server by HOST header? i need something like http proxy but inside-out. is there something? |
| 11:04.38 | DawnLight | OXIj|zzZ: try ##networking also |
| 11:04.50 | OXIj|zzZ | ok. thx |
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| 11:05.25 | DawnLight | dpkg: you can't leave! |
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| 11:06.12 | sleek | xingu, any further lead ? |
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| 11:06.48 | xingu | sleek: nope - maybe try umase=0 type="bool">true<... ? |
| 11:06.53 | xingu | err umask |
| 11:07.40 | axscode | hi,, i have a usb drive... using HD of laptop with enclosure. using IDE-to-USB that is... can someone help me how to mount it using debian etch? anyone please.. |
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| 11:08.12 | DawnLight | sure, axscode |
| 11:08.22 | DawnLight | man mount |
| 11:08.35 | axscode | dont know whats the device name for that usb drive.. |
| 11:08.43 | axscode | i surely know how to mount vfat.. |
| 11:08.44 | DawnLight | i've yet to mount a usb drive |
| 11:08.57 | ErichDotzer | axscode: check "dmesg" |
| 11:08.58 | liable | axscode: check dmesg |
| 11:09.04 | DawnLight | wow |
| 11:09.11 | axscode | i tried... checking the message and dmesg. |
| 11:09.16 | DawnLight | axscode: check dmesg |
| 11:09.18 | axscode | i dont know what to look.. |
| 11:09.32 | axscode | but there it is detected |
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| 11:09.39 | sleek | xingu, didn't work |
| 11:09.41 | sleek | bbl |
| 11:09.57 | ErichDotzer | axscode: USB is named like S-ATA and SCSI |
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| 11:10.01 | axscode | when i plug the usbdrive.. it actually message. but dont know how to look on what device. |
| 11:10.05 | sleek | axscode, check your syslog maybe |
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| 11:10.18 | xingu | sleek: aah, apparently the "...=" option means "can pass any old crap through the policy framework" |
| 11:10.31 | axscode | ErichDotzer: if it is sata or scsi.. what will it be the /dev/X? |
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| 11:10.53 | sleek | axscode, tail /var/log/syslog after you inserted the drive |
| 11:10.58 | ErichDotzer | axscode: /dev/sde or /dev/sdf or something like that |
| 11:11.04 | sleek | xingu, will continue to investigate this later |
| 11:11.09 | axscode | ok its sd... |
| 11:11.13 | xingu | sleek: ie, so possibly the prop name is nix the =, so we should probably repeat your last test bar one passing other datatypes using ...uid rather than ...uid= |
| 11:11.20 | axscode | thanks ErichDotzer.. |
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| 11:11.38 | xingu | sleek: ... if I'm making any sense; will keep smacking away, this is an interesting apple stew you've cooked up. |
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| 11:11.52 | eleftherios | I am on Etch, my apache2 gives me the following error: |
| 11:11.55 | ErichDotzer | axscode: then if you found the device name you can "fdisk -l <device>" to see what partitions are on there |
| 11:11.56 | eleftherios | Starting web server (apache2)...apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load: API module structure `dav_svn_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO? |
| 11:11.56 | eleftherios | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.14 | eleftherios | just after an apt-get upgrade |
| 11:12.21 | axscode | fdisk -l .. got it.. theres only one partition though.. |
| 11:12.46 | axscode | if its IDE-to-USB? scsi or sata on /dev? |
| 11:13.15 | dutchfish | eleftherios, dist-upgrade? |
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| 11:13.40 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I'll try that |
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| 11:13.57 | dutchfish | eleftherios, suppose you are on etch? |
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| 11:14.40 | Qantourisc | "a few pacakges are defect and are repared:" |
| 11:14.45 | Qantourisc | what does this mean ? |
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| 11:14.58 | eleftherios | dutchfish: yes on Etch |
| 11:15.33 | dutchfish | eleftherios, 2.6.18-5 kernel? |
| 11:15.55 | xtor | Does the debian "testing" release have a newer kernel than "stable" or is the kernel exactly the same? |
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| 11:16.10 | eleftherios | dutchfish: 2.6.17-2-k7 |
| 11:16.30 | dutchfish | eleftherios, that was former testing, you found the culprit |
| 11:16.48 | eleftherios | dutchfish: just upgrading to linux-image-2.6.18-5-k7 |
| 11:17.07 | dutchfish | eleftherios, be carefull |
| 11:18.32 | eleftherios | dutchfish: Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-k7/source. However, I can not read the target: No such file or directory. Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-k7/source. |
| 11:18.45 | dutchfish | eleftherios, yes that should be |
| 11:18.49 | eleftherios | dutchfish: Your /etc/kernel-img.conf needs to be updated. Read grub's NEWS.Debian[1] |
| 11:18.54 | xingu | sleek: here? |
| 11:18.59 | xingu | sleek: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_85_6999.shtm voila! |
| 11:19.08 | eleftherios | dutchfish: You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead! |
| 11:19.19 | dutchfish | eleftherios, have you manually altered /etc/kernel-img.conf? |
| 11:19.25 | eleftherios | dutchfish: so what shall I do now? |
| 11:19.40 | eleftherios | dutchfish: there were problems on this server ever since I got it |
| 11:19.46 | DawnLight | eleftherios: those messages are normal |
| 11:20.25 | eleftherios | dutchfish: the server providers had done a bad upgrade from woody or something like that |
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| 11:20.34 | dutchfish | eleftherios, if this is a system without to much manually configuration, this should work, but beofre reboot make sure check your /boot/grub/menu.lst first |
| 11:20.40 | eleftherios | DawnLight: so I don't have to do anything, right? |
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| 11:20.50 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 11:20.59 | eleftherios | dutchfish: checking... |
| 11:21.08 | xtor | Is there any way for me to get the 2.6.20 kernel, without uprooting my system? I need the marvell_pata module thats all |
| 11:21.37 | sleek | back |
| 11:21.44 | sleek | xingu, one moment while I try it |
| 11:21.53 | xingu | sleek: that has the syntax that should work at least |
| 11:22.08 | DawnLight | as i said, these messages don't indicate a problem, eleftherios. but if it has been maintained improperly, there will be some problem solving in store for you |
| 11:22.27 | xingu | sleek: pretty sure if lshal on your volume is showing the key, the match clauses are sane and the document is sane enough for hal to eat |
| 11:22.41 | xingu | sleek: but specificall, the merge key= .. syntax, that you need to ape. |
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| 11:23.23 | fas3r | i had see one times it's possible to execute php directly in th shell someone know the command ? |
| 11:23.39 | eleftherios | DawnLight, dutchfish: well I also have a /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst That was the problem as far as I recall |
| 11:23.52 | sleek | no success xingu |
| 11:24.15 | xingu | sleek: hmm, maybe try throwing it into usr/share/hal/policy/95userpolicy.fdi as per their example then |
| 11:24.17 | sleek | olume.policy.mount_option.umask=0000 = true (bool) |
| 11:24.20 | eleftherios | it was something they had screwed in the installation when they provided me with the server |
| 11:24.41 | dutchfish | eleftherios, i dont know the inner configs of your system, if it booted last time with that i suppose you have boot on a separate partition? |
| 11:24.56 | sleek | xingu, but the line is already listed by lshal |
| 11:25.06 | xingu | sleek: hmm ok; perhaps try logout/login? |
| 11:25.10 | sleek | yeah |
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| 11:25.19 | sleek | later |
| 11:25.20 | dutchfish | eleftherios, is this a remote system? |
| 11:25.20 | xingu | sleek: maybe, gnome volume manager only extracts the keys once, at login |
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| 11:25.28 | DukeDrake | hm - my machine keeps forgetting the ifconfig and route settings ... |
| 11:25.31 | DukeDrake | How come? |
| 11:25.40 | eleftherios | dutchfish: yes |
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| 11:26.15 | DawnLight | eleftherios: if the system is screwed consider installing shiny new. but you may not have to if you know your way around |
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| 11:26.55 | dutchfish | eleftherios, if menu.lst is fine it should boot |
| 11:27.03 | eleftherios | DawnLight: it is only this issue with grub, other than that, the server has been playing fine for 2 years now |
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| 11:27.15 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I am rebooting |
| 11:27.26 | DawnLight | eleftherios: you can make a grub floppy |
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| 11:27.51 | eleftherios | DawnLight: this is a remote system :-) |
| 11:28.14 | xingu | DukeDrake: check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:28.24 | DawnLight | lets hope it stays that way |
| 11:28.29 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I was right, it has rebooted back in the old kernel. It reads /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst instead of /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 11:28.50 | dutchfish | eleftherios, you now know how to resolve this ;) |
| 11:28.57 | eleftherios | dutchfish: how? |
| 11:29.31 | eleftherios | cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 11:30.03 | dutchfish | eleftherios, thats a possibility, but backup the old one first |
| 11:30.06 | DukeDrake | xingu: ok, checked the eth0 if |
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| 11:32.01 | DukeDrake | xingu: where do I put the info for default route? |
| 11:32.34 | xingu | DukeDrake: man interfaces |
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| 11:33.54 | CharminTheMoose | if i have a minimal chroot'ed installation of debian etch. how difficult would it be for me to turn it into an iso image for burning/booting to a cdrom? |
| 11:34.32 | fas3r | the etch version is between stable and unstable or stable and testing .. ? |
| 11:34.39 | dutchfish | eleftherios, you can check this with cat /etc/fstab ... about the boot partition |
| 11:34.55 | eleftherios | I made the copy and rebooted and I am in the new kernel |
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| 11:34.58 | grub | fas3r, stable |
| 11:35.07 | dutchfish | eleftherios, way to go |
| 11:35.09 | fas3r | grub: stable = ech ? |
| 11:35.15 | grub | yep |
| 11:35.19 | eleftherios | dutchfish: it seems that I will have to live with it, everytime I upgrade kernel |
| 11:35.32 | fas3r | hum ok i understand with it don't want install current appli |
| 11:35.33 | BBHoss_Work | best mail server? |
| 11:35.34 | fas3r | thank |
| 11:35.36 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I have to fixed my screwed apache2 confs now... |
| 11:35.56 | dutchfish | eleftherios, is apache2 running? |
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| 11:36.15 | DukeDrake | xingu: well ... ok. But assigning a gateway doesn't work >.> |
| 11:36.26 | fas3r | grub: what the better version for production .. unstable or testing ? |
| 11:37.25 | ErichDotzer | some genious broke libapt-pkg-perl and libept0 in Sid again |
| 11:37.30 | azeem | fas3r: stable |
| 11:38.15 | eleftherios | dutchfish: yes |
| 11:38.20 | dutchfish | CharminTheMoose, you should read about live-helper (lenny or backports) |
| 11:38.35 | eleftherios | dutchfish: but sites not working, configs have been replaced |
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| 11:39.15 | eth01 | hey... http://pastie.caboo.se/111703 - what's wrong exactly? |
| 11:39.23 | dutchfish | eleftherios, can you post your configs on paste-bin? |
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| 11:40.11 | eleftherios | dutchfish: give me five mins please :-) |
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| 11:41.46 | sleek | xingu, no luck |
| 11:41.56 | Qantourisc | ok i fixed the drivers but now glx died ... "could not find symbol" |
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| 11:43.04 | dutchfish | eth01, what does /etc/init.d/apache2 check tells you? |
| 11:43.36 | eth01 | dutchfish: Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} |
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| 11:44.07 | xingu | sleek: maybe raise a bug; I'm out of ideas, and pretty sure you're in the right area already :| |
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| 11:45.25 | sleek | xingu, I am running hald in non-daemon mode now |
| 11:45.42 | dutchfish | eth01, my fault forget this |
| 11:46.08 | codynotes | Has anyone installed the netatalk package with SSL support? I'm following all the instructions and it just doesn't install all the authentication modules it's supposed to... |
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| 11:46.27 | DukeDrake | setting "up route add default gw 192.168.1.200" in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work: the route doesn't get added o.o |
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| 11:46.53 | xingu | sleek: there's dbus-monitor too that will trap what happens *after* hal's policy db is consulted, more than likely |
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| 11:47.02 | xingu | sleek: users of hal tend to trigger dbus events |
| 11:47.13 | compiztest | I'm trying to compile compiz. configure says inotify headers are missing. what's the package for this? |
| 11:47.19 | compiztest | (on etch) |
| 11:47.28 | liable | DukeDrake: you can just use 'gateway 192.168.1.200' |
| 11:47.30 | xingu | sleek: might be a way to work out whether or not you've done what needs doing with hal - and that perhaps the issue is a lower layer down |
| 11:47.33 | liable | in interfaces.. |
| 11:47.47 | DukeDrake | ok... now it works >.> |
| 11:48.23 | romanos_melodos | hello guys! i wanna buy a new laptop and wanna be kinda sure that i can run my debi on it.. has anyone any idea if debian includes any intel vga drivers for intel 950? cheers |
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| 11:48.32 | DukeDrake | It apparently needs to be done by ifup eth0, 'ifconfig eth0 up' doesn't work |
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| 11:49.28 | dutchfish | DukeDrake, but ifconfig eth0 [your ip] does work, and bring it up |
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| 11:49.50 | romanos_melodos | anyone? |
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| 11:50.17 | DukeDrake | dutchfish: I see.... so ifconfig up only considers commandline options ... |
| 11:50.23 | dutchfish | romano2k, there are so many possibilties, but i950 is basically supported as far as i know |
| 11:50.31 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I only have to set DirectoryIndex to use index.py too. Thanks for the help :-) |
| 11:50.47 | dutchfish | eleftherios, up? |
| 11:51.28 | dutchfish | eleftherios, i meant is your site up now? |
| 11:51.48 | eleftherios | dutchfish: not yet, working on it |
| 11:51.56 | eleftherios | but I know what the problem is |
| 11:51.58 | eleftherios | :-) |
| 11:52.11 | dutchfish | eleftherios, ok, gl |
| 11:53.10 | eleftherios | :-) |
| 11:53.33 | romanos_melodos | hmm |
| 11:53.39 | romanos_melodos | is really lenny released? |
| 11:53.47 | dutchfish | !lenny |
| 11:53.47 | dpkg | methinks lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 11:53.58 | romanos_melodos | oh ok:P |
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| 11:54.24 | spal | !lenny |
| 11:54.24 | dpkg | lenny is probably the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 11:54.32 | sayers | uh |
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| 11:55.54 | eleftherios | dutchfish: all working fine, thanks again |
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| 12:01.21 | eth01 | #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) -- what's wrong? |
| 12:01.23 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 12:01.41 | dutchfish | eth01, my.cnf |
| 12:01.56 | eth01 | dutchfish: yes? |
| 12:02.16 | dutchfish | eth01, you need to config wich interface mysql will bind on |
| 12:02.40 | dutchfish | eth01, this has been altered recently, wildcards no longer supported |
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| 12:04.38 | eth01 | why is it when I installed phpmyadmin, it installed mysql-server with it.. but it doesn't seem to be installed ? :/ |
| 12:04.49 | eth01 | it's as if, it wasn't installed |
| 12:05.03 | dutchfish | eth01, it is installed but maybe not up? |
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| 12:05.18 | eth01 | http://rafb.net/p/YqNrgk80.html |
| 12:05.35 | TraceGreen | Hello, which package should be "X development file" ? |
| 12:05.35 | magnus | I just installed a new debian system. I accidently selected to generate some UTF-8 locals during the installation process. So now I am having problems with the letters in my country alphabet. If I would not have done this, just installed the default locals, it would have worked fine (did a installation like that some time ago). Is it possible to "reconfigre" the locals generated so that it is only the standard one? |
| 12:05.59 | dutchfish | eth01, what about mysql5-server? |
| 12:06.05 | phrozen77 | eth0 theres no mysql-server |
| 12:06.05 | liable | TraceGreen: xorg-dev |
| 12:06.14 | liable | magnus: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 12:06.22 | eth01 | apt-get install mysql-server, then? |
| 12:06.24 | TraceGreen | liable, thanks very much ! |
| 12:06.30 | sayers | How would I setup proftpd to login a person into /var/www? |
| 12:06.33 | dutchfish | eth01, no |
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| 12:06.57 | eth01 | how so then? :) |
| 12:07.02 | dutchfish | eth01, apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 |
| 12:07.05 | magnus | liable: Thanks! |
| 12:07.25 | eth01 | ok, thanks. |
| 12:07.28 | phrozen77 | though mysql-server is a metapackage for the latest version |
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| 12:07.44 | dutchfish | phrozen77, depends if sarge/etch/lenny |
| 12:07.51 | phrozen77 | true |
| 12:09.00 | basanta | any idea where squid stores all the cached objects? |
| 12:09.09 | eth01 | hmmm, it's working now. |
| 12:09.15 | dutchfish | basanta, /var/... |
| 12:09.29 | dutchfish | eth01, k |
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| 12:10.45 | dutchfish | eth01, dont forget to set your mysql root password |
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| 12:13.25 | eth01 | dutchfish, how so? |
| 12:14.06 | dutchfish | eth01, security first |
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| 12:14.34 | axscode | how can i mount FBSD filesystem? |
| 12:14.47 | dutchfish | sayers, you mean every person? or a homedir for each person? |
| 12:15.22 | sayers | dutchfish: currently if I FTP in as steven which is an account it takes me to /home/steven/ and the website is located in /var/www |
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| 12:15.43 | sayers | Not that I need ftp with SSH it'd just be nice. |
| 12:16.09 | dutchfish | sayers, alter /etc/passwd and change homedir for steven or use the debian usermod and related to alter homedir |
| 12:16.24 | sayers | dutchfish: sure, I guess that'd work. |
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| 12:16.30 | dutchfish | sayers, this is of coarse not secure |
| 12:16.34 | sayers | yeah |
| 12:16.42 | sayers | Is there a more secure way :s |
| 12:17.04 | dutchfish | sayers, yes, actually there is, run chrooted home dirs with proftpd |
| 12:17.16 | dutchfish | sayers, rtfm |
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| 12:17.39 | sayers | I didn't even ask how yet dutchfish :P |
| 12:17.55 | dutchfish | sayers, ok, you win ;) |
| 12:18.05 | eth01 | use scp |
| 12:18.09 | sayers | dutchfish: but how ? :) |
| 12:18.23 | dutchfish | sayers, hold on, googling for ya |
| 12:18.53 | dutchfish | sayers, http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-Chroot.html |
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| 12:22.13 | mne | hipodilski, my script is connecting with ssh to another machine to do various tests. the following works: ssh -q user@host "find /home/something/tmp | wc -l". But this does not work: ssh -q user@host "exit `find /home/something/tmp | wc -l`". It returns "/home/something: No such file or directory". Do you have an idea why this doesn't work ?? |
| 12:22.29 | mne | hello. my script is connecting with ssh to another machine to do various tests. the following works: ssh -q user@host "find /home/something/tmp | wc -l". But this does not work: ssh -q user@host "exit `find /home/something/tmp | wc -l`". It returns "/home/something: No such file or directory". Do you have an idea why this doesn't work ?? |
| 12:22.50 | dutchfish | mne, exit is the culprit |
| 12:23.16 | mne | dutchfish, why ? i would like exit to return the number of lines the find command found |
| 12:23.17 | TraceGreen | which package should be " OpenGL development headers"? |
| 12:23.32 | dutchfish | mne, actually this trows you out the remote |
| 12:23.58 | dutchfish | mne, before anything after can execute |
| 12:24.30 | mne | dutchfish, ok, i see. so how do i solve this ? Maybe a shell variable could help ? |
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| 12:24.36 | Qantourisc | where do i find the packeage collection settings in aptiude ? |
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| 12:25.18 | dutchfish | mne, you would look at advanced bash scripting tutor, i am not that great scripter myself |
| 12:26.08 | Qantourisc | !unstable |
| 12:26.08 | dpkg | well, unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>. |
| 12:26.22 | Qantourisc | !testing |
| 12:26.22 | dpkg | somebody said testing was a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 12:26.37 | dutchfish | mne, what i would do: place a script on remote and execute this remotely |
| 12:26.52 | eth01 | how do you rename files ? for e.g. i want index.php to be called info.php |
| 12:26.54 | mne | dutchfish, i just found out that the problem is not the exit. the error also occurs with something as simple as "`find /home/something/tmp`" |
| 12:26.57 | dutchfish | !sunday |
| 12:26.58 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:27.00 | elmor | anyone have any suggestions on why i'm unable to recieve dhcp offers to my vlan interface? i suspect that the dhcpserver only shares one ipaddress per macaddress |
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| 12:27.35 | mne | dutchfish, that will be the last solution. |
| 12:27.52 | dutchfish | mne, i believe you better of by placing the script on the remote |
| 12:27.53 | DawnLight | where trolls! let me have'em |
| 12:28.01 | dutchfish | ;) |
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| 12:28.51 | mne | dutchfish, hmm, i guess i will have to do that if i don't find another solution. thanks |
| 12:29.10 | dutchfish | mne, it saves bandwidth too ... my 2 cents |
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| 12:29.29 | moooeo | !alot |
| 12:29.32 | moooeo | !trolls |
| 12:29.34 | moooeo | !sunday |
| 12:29.34 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:29.42 | sayers | dutchfish: how would I add mount --bind /var/ftp/incoming /home/bob/incoming to fstab? |
| 12:29.52 | moooeo | <moooeo> !alot |
| 12:30.02 | moooeo | <moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot<moooeo> !alot< |
| 12:30.09 | dutchfish | stop spamming dpkg |
| 12:30.33 | vvd | i need xf86vmode.h. how can i find the package that gives me that file? |
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| 12:30.46 | dutchfish | sayers, i dont follow you explain why mount is involved? |
| 12:31.04 | phrozen77 | i especially like how faggots think theyre anonymous behind cgi:irc |
| 12:31.05 | phrozen77 | [cpc2-stkp3-0-0-cust773.manc.cable.ntl.com |
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| 12:31.10 | phrozen77 | like your hostname moooeo ? |
| 12:31.12 | sayers | dutchfish: I have it mount /var/www into /home/steven so I can edit it. |
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| 12:31.32 | dutchfish | sayers, if this is still related to proftpd DONT |
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| 12:31.40 | sayers | dutchfish: it's not |
| 12:32.34 | dutchfish | sayers, i lost you |
| 12:32.39 | sayers | dutchfish: it will only let me read the site in /home/steven/www :( I can't edit it even after chmoding it |
| 12:32.59 | sayers | uh I am mounting a copy of /var/www into /home/steven so he can edit the site? |
| 12:33.35 | dutchfish | sayers, edit? in wich way? remotely?ftp?what? |
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| 12:33.57 | sayers | dutchfish: I want ftp so I can edit the site without having to ssh . |
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| 12:34.55 | dutchfish | sayers, ok apache uses a user that must have access to files, the ftp user needs also access rights, place them in the same group and chmod accordingly |
| 12:35.26 | sayers | dutchfish: alright ill try and find the name of the groups |
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| 12:36.05 | dutchfish | sayers, at the top of my head www-data group (not sure) |
| 12:36.18 | sayers | Wow good guess |
| 12:37.17 | magnus | How can I configure that the system clock is not UTC, but JST? |
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| 12:37.26 | dutchfish | magnus, tzconfig |
| 12:37.36 | sayers | dutchfish: Still doesn't let me edit my /var/www but... |
| 12:37.44 | magnus | Using tzconfig I can only select the time zone I am in right now? |
| 12:38.35 | dutchfish | sayers, this will also ajust date on command |
| 12:38.50 | magnus | I mean, using tzconfig I will not change what linux think is the timezone of systemclock, but rather which timezone that time should be translated into |
| 12:39.02 | dutchfish | magnus, yes it does |
| 12:39.30 | dutchfish | magnus, sorry it depends on hwclock settings if your hwclock is runnig local or utc |
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| 12:39.46 | magnus | ah thanks |
| 12:39.56 | magnus | that is what I want to change, from UTC to local :) |
| 12:40.06 | magnus | (I am running windows on the same box) |
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| 12:40.25 | dutchfish | magnus, you opted default at install? |
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| 12:41.24 | magnus | dutchfish: yeah |
| 12:41.34 | magnus | Actually I am unsure if it asked |
| 12:41.46 | magnus | but it maybe did, and I said yes by reflex / default |
| 12:41.51 | dutchfish | magnus, i frankly dont know how to alter that |
| 12:42.09 | dutchfish | magnus, maybe /etc/default |
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| 12:43.14 | magnus | nope |
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| 12:44.54 | magnus | If i use hwclock it only say: select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
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| 12:45.13 | dutchfish | magnus, man hwclock |
| 12:46.17 | dutchfish | magnus, maybe this helps: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_hwclock |
| 12:46.30 | magnus | Even if I use other switches it just say the same |
| 12:46.38 | magnus | dutchfish: thanks |
| 12:46.42 | liable | magnus: its in an rcS init script |
| 12:46.56 | dutchfish | liable, thx for helping out |
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| 12:47.31 | magnus | liable: Hm which rcS script? |
| 12:48.10 | liable | hwcloack i would guess |
| 12:48.17 | magnus | ah i found it |
| 12:48.25 | magnus | S11hwclock.sh |
| 12:48.36 | magnus | UTC="yes" |
| 12:48.51 | magnus | and then I must restart, I assume |
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| 12:50.58 | dutchfish | magnus, liable this only works if hwclock is installed ;) |
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| 12:52.28 | magnus | hm ok |
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| 12:52.32 | magnus | or if hwclock works |
| 12:52.38 | magnus | which it oes not forme, due to the RTC bug |
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| 12:53.01 | dutchfish | magnus, on my machine i use ntp without hwclock due to bug |
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| 12:53.18 | adaro | does anyone know how i can list all files in a debian package |
| 12:53.20 | linux26 | When speaking of "/etc/init.d" or "/etc/pam.d", what does the "d" (in ".d") stand for? |
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| 12:53.43 | dutchfish | linux26, deamon |
| 12:54.07 | dvs | daemon |
| 12:54.08 | linux26 | But how can d stand for daemon when /etc/pam.d contains configuration files |
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| 12:54.14 | eleftherios | When I try to login in pbuilder I get tar: dev/rmidi3: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted and lots of similar messages. This is pbuilder in my home dir and I am a simple user. Any ideas? |
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| 12:54.25 | dutchfish | !init.d |
| 12:54.26 | dpkg | it has been said that init.d is ask me about <bootmisc><rc.local> |
| 12:54.33 | adaro | ah nevermind i got it, dpkg -L |
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| 12:55.05 | linux26 | !pam.d |
| 12:55.06 | eleftherios | dutchfish: I am trying to build a backport of mod_wsgi now for Etch... |
| 12:55.08 | eleftherios | :-) |
| 12:55.14 | dutchfish | linux26, there are you start|stop|whatever scripts to control the daemon |
| 12:55.42 | linux26 | dutchfish: explain pam.d |
| 12:55.48 | dutchfish | eleftherios, you would be better of to use backports.org |
| 12:56.26 | dutchfish | linux26, is this an exam? |
| 12:56.27 | eleftherios | dutchfish: it is not available |
| 12:56.34 | linux26 | dutchfish: yes |
| 12:56.48 | dutchfish | eleftherios, k |
| 12:57.46 | dutchfish | linux26, pam stands for plugable authentication management, its basicaly a daemon too |
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| 12:58.11 | linux26 | yet the files in /etc/pam.d are not daemons |
| 12:58.32 | linux26 | nm, i think i figured it out |
| 12:58.36 | dutchfish | linux26, didnt say that, i said config files to start|stop|whatever |
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| 12:59.05 | linux26 | the files in /etc/pam.d are not config files to |
| 12:59.11 | linux26 | "start|stop|whatever" |
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| 12:59.18 | dutchfish | linux26, scripts |
| 12:59.32 | linux26 | they're not scripts either |
| 12:59.52 | dvs | dvst: Imposter! |
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| 13:00.27 | dvst | dvs, you already talk to dv____ ? |
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| 13:00.37 | dvs | dvst: nope |
| 13:00.51 | dutchfish | linux26, sorry that my english is not that good, but with those files you control the daemons, whatever you call them |
| 13:01.21 | linux26 | if by 'control' you mean 'configure', I'm inclined to believe you |
| 13:01.46 | dutchfish | linux26, for init.d thise is not true |
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| 13:02.10 | linux26 | didn;t I make it pretty clear we were currently talking about pam.d ? |
| 13:02.22 | dutchfish | linux26, for init.d those are scripts the start|stop|whatever the daemons |
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| 13:03.10 | linux26 | dutchfish: also, not all files in /etc/init.d are scripts which you can use in a `/etc/init.d/file start|stop` fashion |
| 13:03.33 | linux26 | par example I have a custom script in there which is ran on boot and which does not work in a `start|stop` fashion |
| 13:03.37 | fas3r | i don't understand if i use in command line php -f mysqcript.php it's work but if i go on firefox or ie it's work don't in totality |
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| 13:03.39 | dutchfish | linux26, i didnt say that either, i set scripts to control |
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| 13:04.10 | dutchfish | linux26, again forgive my bad english |
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| 13:04.23 | linux26 | like I've said, there can be other things in there |
| 13:04.56 | dutchfish | linux26, give me an example of 'other' |
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| 13:05.34 | majmun | kinda of topic, but i'm searching for a name for my forum-URL...server.com/forum doesn't sound that nice, neither does /support or /board sound that good...any ideas? |
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| 13:06.06 | dutchfish | majmun, debian? |
| 13:06.21 | majmun | it's not a debian-forum, but there is a linux-thread :> |
| 13:06.26 | linux26 | dutchfish: I thought I just did. I have a script in /etc/init.d (custom built) which is called on boot, hoever the script can not be stopped via `/etc/init.d/script stop` |
| 13:06.48 | linux26 | the script can not be stopped at all actually since the only thing it does is perform some terminal configuration and terminate |
| 13:06.51 | dutchfish | linux26, now we getting there .. go on |
| 13:07.02 | Hoxzer | can somebody please explain me why does sshfs make directory where it mounts to unwritable by everybody else than Local root |
| 13:07.07 | Alvo | hi, wenn ich mich mit putty von windows auf linux/ssh/bash einlogge, dann geht die Pos1 Taste nicht (er komt eine ~), wie kann ich das fixen? |
| 13:08.14 | linux26 | I understood perfectly even though I don't speak german .. when he logs in from windows to linux via ssh, his "pos1" key doesn't work and prints a "~" instead, how can he fix it |
| 13:08.38 | mne | dutchfish, the problem were the double-quotes. this caused the command in the backticks to be executed on the local host instead of the remote host ;) |
| 13:08.40 | dutchfish | Alvo, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:09.35 | nvz | hah |
| 13:09.57 | Alvo | dutchfish: there are 1000 items to select @dpkg-reconfigure locales, what can i do there? |
| 13:09.59 | wAndyw78 | Alvo: http://otmanix.de/2007/10/21/putty-umlaute-und-unicode/ |
| 13:10.21 | dutchfish | Alvo, your language and your locale DE something |
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| 13:10.56 | dutchfish | Alvo, du must alle 3 wahlen, und welchem default |
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| 13:11.27 | Alvo | dutchfish: there are 14 de configurations |
| 13:11.39 | dutchfish | Alvo, hold on |
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| 13:12.05 | wAndyw78 | Alvo: try the link, this is a FAQ |
| 13:12.13 | dutchfish | Alvo, de_DE nur 3 |
| 13:12.28 | dutchfish | Alvo, falsh nur 2 |
| 13:12.30 | Alvo | dutchfish, wAndyw78: 10x |
| 13:13.06 | Alvo | dutchfish: what default? |
| 13:13.23 | dutchfish | iso |
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| 13:13.56 | Alvo | dutchfish: i see no iso, maybe the text is truncated, is it utf-8? |
| 13:14.12 | nvz | !utf8 |
| 13:14.12 | dpkg | i guess utf8 is how the Perl and PHP people spell UTF-8. See also <UTF-8>. |
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| 13:14.22 | dutchfish | Alvo, the other 1 |
| 13:14.22 | nvz | UTF-8 |
| 13:14.24 | nvz | heh |
| 13:14.33 | nvz | that was funny |
| 13:14.57 | nvz | !utf-8 |
| 13:14.58 | dpkg | from memory, utf-8 is Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international characterset range of Unicode. See bug #214254 and http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html, or And try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). Read /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian to fix garbled ... |
| 13:15.05 | Alvo | dutchfish: erm... i see: "de_DE", "de_DE.UTF-8", "de_DE@euro" |
| 13:15.10 | wAndyw78 | Alvo: Jetzt mal Klartext, wo ist das Problem? gib endlich "locale" ein, da wird bei LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 stehen und wenn dem so ist, musst du Putty umkonfigurieren |
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| 13:15.19 | dutchfish | Alvo, then de_DE@euro |
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| 13:16.33 | dutchfish | wAndyw78, oder iso gebrauchen, und bitte letzt english |
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| 13:17.52 | dutchfish | i have the had the same problems bcause my native language is dutch |
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| 13:18.12 | Alvo | env tells now: LANG=de_DE@euro , but still it doesnt work |
| 13:18.15 | wAndyw78 | dutchfish: I've posted a link, but he doesn't read it. So i thought he doesn't understand english... somewhat annoying... |
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| 13:18.40 | nvz | google translate it :P |
| 13:18.51 | Alvo | wAndyw78: the link is german |
| 13:18.52 | dutchfish | wAndyw78, i admit, i loked at your link, he could also set putty to utf8 |
| 13:18.57 | Alvo | wAndyw78: ;P |
| 13:19.26 | wAndyw78 | Alvo: I thought your native language IS german.... |
| 13:19.30 | dutchfish | wAndyw78, but there are othe rissues as well (timezones, etc) |
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| 13:20.03 | dutchfish | wAndyw78, thats why i choose the iso ones |
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| 13:20.17 | Qantourisc | !branches |
| 13:20.22 | Qantourisc | !branch |
| 13:20.22 | dpkg | methinks branch is what version of Debian you're using; etch/stable, lenny/testing, sid/unstable, or see !version |
| 13:20.29 | Qantourisc | !version |
| 13:20.29 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a |
| 13:20.32 | eth01 | how do you load different modules in apache? |
| 13:20.50 | Qantourisc | !etch/stable |
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| 13:21.27 | damon_ | stupid question: how do I set a nic to a specific interface? In RH /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX How do I do that in Debian? |
| 13:21.36 | dutchfish | eth01, http://www.ducea.com/2006/05/30/managing-apache2-modules-the-debian-way/ |
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| 13:22.22 | damon_ | I see interfaces, is that what I would edit in debian? |
| 13:23.00 | ErichDotzer | damon_: you have to weak the udev config to change the interface binding |
| 13:23.08 | ErichDotzer | s/tweak |
| 13:24.23 | damon_ | you would not use HARDWRADDRESS=macaddresshere? |
| 13:24.45 | damon_ | interesting |
| 13:24.48 | ErichDotzer | could be that it works when you specify that in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:24.50 | cydork | !tell damon_ -about z25 |
| 13:24.58 | damon_ | please |
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| 13:25.18 | fas3r | how to give root right to www-data ? |
| 13:25.35 | AbsintheSyringe | what's on debin 1 cd, or could someone please link me to see what's on each cd/dvd |
| 13:25.41 | damon_ | Thanks guys. I had no idea! |
| 13:25.42 | Alvo | why is in env "LANG=de_DE" and "LANGUAGE=en_US" ? |
| 13:25.51 | DawnLight | damon_: you want to change the mac? |
| 13:25.55 | liable | fas3r: root does |
| 13:26.03 | liable | !cd contents |
| 13:26.03 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
| 13:26.15 | fas3r | liable: what ? |
| 13:26.24 | damon_ | DawnLight, no, I want to make mac X always eth0 so I know which is which |
| 13:26.48 | DawnLight | damon_: cool. how's that done? |
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| 13:26.56 | liable | fas3r: what exactly do you mean by your question? |
| 13:27.07 | dutchfish | fas3r, if you mean through apache2 you cant |
| 13:27.07 | damon_ | Dawnlight, that is what I am finding out here! :) |
| 13:27.15 | cydork | damon_: check out the file dpkg told you about, also checkout ifrename |
| 13:27.38 | damon_ | DawnLight, The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 13:27.41 | damon_ | cydork, |
| 13:27.44 | Qantourisc | !mirrors |
| 13:27.44 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 13:27.46 | damon_ | cydork thanks |
| 13:28.21 | Qantourisc | !apt servers |
| 13:28.37 | fas3r | liable: dutchfish : if you prefer when i execute directly my script on command line with root user with command : "php -f myscript.php" it work but when i use firefox or ie just the echo from the script was execute ... not the reste |
| 13:28.38 | liable | !tell Qantourisc about msg the bot |
| 13:28.40 | Qantourisc | is there some page that list how and witch package lists there are ? |
| 13:29.14 | dutchfish | fas3r, thats apache2 preventing you from doing root wich you should NOT |
| 13:29.16 | liable | Qantourisc: huh? |
| 13:29.35 | Qantourisc | liable: for example where to get the sid ? |
| 13:29.42 | fas3r | dutchfish: but how to execute command or program who need root right ? |
| 13:29.53 | liable | Qantourisc: /msg dpkg reference |
| 13:29.59 | ErichDotzer | Qantourisc: go to the debian.org website and check the mirror list |
| 13:30.01 | dutchfish | fas3r, thats not done (bad practise) |
| 13:30.18 | damon_ | Man, everytime I try to do something in Debian, my knowledge just increases about linux. |
| 13:30.34 | Qantourisc | liable: ErichDotzer: yes both list it clearly .... |
| 13:30.39 | fas3r | i know it bad practice but it's for generate certificat with openssl .. how i do this .. i just want test .. |
| 13:30.51 | ErichDotzer | Qantourisc: so whats the problem? |
| 13:31.03 | dutchfish | fas3r, so you basically saying i give root to everyone in the world through apache2? nah, you dont want that |
| 13:31.10 | Qantourisc | whoot found it |
| 13:31.38 | dutchfish | fas3r, you can do that on console |
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| 13:31.58 | fas3r | it's in local not on internet no problem and i use ssl for connexion with active card .. i think security is good before execute this script |
| 13:32.29 | dutchfish | fas3r, this means you need to run apache2 as root ... very bad |
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| 13:32.49 | dutchfish | fas3r, i dont know if its even possible |
| 13:33.55 | Alvo | wAndyw78: umlauts workz, but "Pos1" und "ende" key not |
| 13:34.03 | dutchfish | fas3r, but set suid bit for the script would do this |
| 13:34.42 | dutchfish | fas3r, then its run as root |
| 13:34.51 | fas3r | dutchfish: it's done but not work |
| 13:34.59 | fas3r | and i have test with sudo |
| 13:36.14 | dutchfish | fas3r, whats is your apache2 user now? ps auxww | grep apache2 |
| 13:36.19 | fas3r | dutchfish: it's possible in sh script to use login command .. maybe for change user before execute command |
| 13:36.26 | fas3r | i look |
| 13:37.00 | fas3r | dutchfish: http://pastebin.com/mc16addf |
| 13:37.38 | dutchfish | fas3r, www-data cant execute scripts as root |
| 13:38.13 | eth01 | i want an easy webmail/mail server? what should i use... |
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| 13:38.29 | eth01 | to setup/use * |
| 13:38.48 | dutchfish | eth01, horde |
| 13:38.53 | fas3r | dutchfish: no but i use shell_exec() or system() and i execute a script who containt login command i change in root user and i execute my php script after authentification .. |
| 13:39.02 | ricardo | hi, if I swap over to my root accont would I be firewalled with firestarter if I installed firestarter on a user account ? |
| 13:39.08 | dutchfish | fas3r, www-data cant execute scripts as root, 2nd time |
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| 13:39.19 | fas3r | dutchfish: sorry .. |
| 13:39.45 | eth01 | how do you rename files ? for e.g. i want index.php to be called info.php |
| 13:39.51 | fas3r | i don't understand english very well .. |
| 13:39.57 | dutchfish | eth01, man mv |
| 13:40.23 | Alvo | dutchfish: i've been playing around now quite a while, do u have an idea why the special keys 'pos1' and 'ende" do not work? |
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| 13:41.02 | dutchfish | Alvo, german keyboard, look at keyboard settings ... i need to go now |
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| 13:41.20 | Alvo | @@@@@üöäß workz |
| 13:41.38 | Alvo | dutchfish: cya |
| 13:42.11 | ricardo | so does the firewall I installed on my user account also me when I use my root account ? rotec |
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| 13:44.23 | xtor | If I change my release in apt sources from stable to testing, will that break things? |
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| 13:48.40 | atlfalcons866 | is 4Gb enough for debian |
| 13:48.45 | Qantourisc | ok paitidue segfault |
| 13:48.47 | Qantourisc | euuu ... |
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| 13:48.52 | phlpp | !java-package |
| 13:48.52 | dpkg | i guess java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
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| 13:49.22 | ather | holas |
| 13:50.03 | ather | alguien me podria hechar un cable con la deteccion de la tarjeta de sonido de la placa base? |
| 13:50.08 | Ronin | !br |
| 13:50.08 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 13:50.13 | Ronin | i think |
| 13:50.36 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: depends on your configuration |
| 13:50.46 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: you can split |
| 13:50.54 | ather | no habla nadie castellano? |
| 13:50.59 | atlfalcons866 | Alvo: i have a 250GB hard disk |
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| 13:51.14 | atlfalcons866 | Alvo: but only have 4GB unallocated |
| 13:51.42 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: i have 160 GB HDD, and my debian partition is 2 GB |
| 13:51.58 | atlfalcons866 | alvo: problem is i can resize my partitions |
| 13:52.04 | atlfalcons866 | cant |
| 13:52.12 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: why not? |
| 13:52.23 | atlfalcons866 | Alvo: i am using JFS |
| 13:52.43 | atlfalcons866 | I regret doing that |
| 13:52.56 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: bad luck, maybe you can convert it to a better one |
| 13:53.21 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: like ext2 ;) |
| 13:53.29 | atlfalcons866 | ALvo: i know |
| 13:53.53 | atlfalcons866 | ALvo: I am going to buy an external hard disk and way i will just copy the data on to it and format it EXT3 |
| 13:54.07 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: with ext3 i had problems, kernel decided to remount read-only by random |
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| 13:54.21 | atlfalcons866 | Alvo: what fs you using now |
| 13:55.02 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: ext2/ext3 mixed |
| 13:55.15 | atlfalcons866 | Alvo: how long does fsck take |
| 13:55.26 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: dunno |
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| 13:56.02 | sleek | !kick sleek |
| 13:56.05 | sleek | ouch |
| 13:56.06 | atlfalcons866 | will ext2 fsck itself on power loss i know ext3 dosent cuz it is journaled |
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| 13:56.27 | logd | how to toggle summertime |
| 13:56.32 | sleek | all fs should fsck itself after a power failure imho. |
| 13:56.38 | sleek | that's the correct way to do it ! |
| 13:57.00 | atlfalcons866 | the one i thing i hate about ext2/ext3 its long annoying fsck |
| 13:57.21 | PingFloyd | atlfalcons866: yeah, ext2 will fsck on power loss |
| 13:57.48 | atlfalcons866 | is there a way to change the amount of mounts for ext3 to fsck itself |
| 13:57.49 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: but usually you dont fsck |
| 13:57.58 | PingFloyd | atlfalcons866: yeah, with tune2fs |
| 13:58.23 | atlfalcons866 | is it risky changing it to every 30 days or something |
| 13:58.48 | Nyle | well |
| 13:58.54 | Nyle | fuck. |
| 13:59.05 | PingFloyd | you can change by mount count and time elapsed |
| 13:59.37 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: my HDD decided, to report only 130 GB size, instead of 160GB, dunno why that happened |
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| 13:59.56 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: its still fine now, it was one year ago :) |
| 14:00.05 | atlfalcons866 | and you havent fscked |
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| 14:00.30 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: i did, at that point it was fucked up, but now its fine till then |
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| 14:01.00 | Nyle | Alvo: hdd's do that |
| 14:01.05 | Nyle | GB=GiB |
| 14:01.05 | Alvo | atlfalcons866: every bios crashes when it ries to detect that HDD :) |
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| 14:01.15 | Nyle | 500gb disk shows up at around 460gb |
| 14:01.35 | Nyle | then you have to subtract the fs data |
| 14:01.47 | atlfalcons866 | his bios proably dosent have 48bit |
| 14:01.48 | Alvo | Nyle: today the HDD reports 500 GB, tomorrow 460GB? |
| 14:01.53 | Nyle | or i you put a fat32 on it, prepare to lose about 15% of the capacty |
| 14:01.57 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 14:02.09 | Nyle | Alvo: a 500gb disk is NEVER 500gb of storage data |
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| 14:02.13 | atlfalcons866 | so would it be safe to change fsck to every 14 days |
| 14:02.13 | Nyle | is what I am trying to say |
| 14:02.31 | Nyle | so 160gb disk is not 160gb of storage data, its more like 145 or 150gb |
| 14:02.34 | Alvo | Nyle: or today report 20000 cylinders, tomorrow 15000? |
| 14:02.39 | Nyle | Alvo: what? |
| 14:02.41 | eth01 | indeed. i have a 160GB HDD, it's like 156GB in actual disk-space. |
| 14:02.51 | Alvo | Nyle: yes |
| 14:02.53 | sleek | REISERFS |
| 14:02.55 | sleek | all shall bow |
| 14:02.58 | Nyle | I asked what |
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| 14:03.03 | Nyle | yes is not an answer to what |
| 14:03.13 | Nyle | yes is an answer to a yes or no question |
| 14:03.16 | Nyle | what? |
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| 14:03.19 | sleek | yes |
| 14:03.23 | Nyle | why? |
| 14:03.35 | eth01 | how do you enable directory listing on debian (apache, of course) ... |
| 14:03.48 | Nyle | eth01: make sure there is no index.html? |
| 14:03.51 | Nyle | index.* |
| 14:04.01 | Alvo | my hdd initially was also 156 GB (by fdisk), now it is only 137,4 GB |
| 14:04.03 | Nyle | php/htm/html |
| 14:04.05 | liable | eth01: Inedxes |
| 14:04.16 | liable | Indexes* |
| 14:04.17 | eth01 | Nyle: already done. (http://gx10.unspecific.net that's what i'm getting) .... |
| 14:04.36 | Alvo | Nyle, regardless of filesystems or partitions |
| 14:04.40 | eth01 | liable: i've got autoindex, enabled. |
| 14:04.53 | Nyle | eth01: you don't have permissions |
| 14:04.58 | liable | eth01: whats autoindex? |
| 14:05.17 | eth01 | an apache module, for indexing the directorys apparently - it was already enabled anyway,... |
| 14:05.17 | Nyle | eth01: enable userdir and use ~/public_html/ to store files in |
| 14:05.26 | Nyle | eth01: then you can use directorylist |
| 14:05.34 | eth01 | that's what I want to use.... ? |
| 14:05.39 | Nyle | otherwise it will try to list /var/www and which you don't have perms for |
| 14:05.41 | Nyle | apparantly |
| 14:05.47 | Nyle | I'm not an apache guru |
| 14:05.50 | liable | eth01: yeah, and Indexes is a conf variable for it |
| 14:05.52 | Nyle | I don't know, im only guessing |
| 14:06.13 | Nyle | also, I am still using apache 1.3 |
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| 14:07.44 | eth01 | http://rafb.net/p/TUvj8B80.html |
| 14:07.46 | eth01 | thats my conf ^^ |
| 14:08.23 | roderyk | trying to install a usb printer; modprobe usblp is fine, and /var/log/messages does mention it's detected. But when adding the printer via cups web config, it can't find the device. ideas? |
| 14:10.46 | eth01 | liable: anything in the conf which can be changed? |
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| 14:11.42 | liable | eth01: i havent read it, google 'Option Indexes' |
| 14:12.06 | Nyle | liable: whats up with you |
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| 14:12.21 | liable | Nyle: eating curry |
| 14:12.27 | Nyle | liable: in the morning time |
| 14:12.41 | Nyle | I eat eggs and toast |
| 14:12.45 | liable | actually, its 11pm |
| 14:12.48 | Nyle | with some tea and milk |
| 14:12.56 | Nyle | liable: what are in ? |
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| 14:13.22 | liable | au, and curry on toast sounds quite yummy to me for breaky ;) |
| 14:13.25 | Nyle | there is a 11 or 13 hour diff i am in usa |
| 14:13.28 | Nyle | 10am |
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| 14:14.06 | ethang | anybody here have any experience with apache? |
| 14:14.19 | Ronin | ethang: some do some dont, try asking your real questions |
| 14:14.26 | Nyle | roderyk: try to lsusb when it is connected |
| 14:14.37 | Nyle | roderyk: are all the usb modules loadoed |
| 14:14.41 | ethang | I am trying to set up cgi capability on my server |
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| 14:14.55 | Nyle | ethang: #apache |
| 14:15.01 | ethang | i have a scriptalias directive that maps cgi-bin to /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin |
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| 14:15.14 | ethang | but the server error log says it's looking in /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 14:15.37 | ethang | how to fix this? |
| 14:15.53 | roderyk | Nyle: ok, that's wierd. lsusb lists the printer at first... but it will disappear after a couple seconds |
| 14:16.10 | Nyle | roderyk: check dmesg |
| 14:16.25 | Nyle | "lets echo 23, see whats up" |
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| 14:16.37 | Nyle | -Mr. The Plague- |
| 14:16.58 | Nyle | can anyone tellme where this line is from |
| 14:17.07 | Nyle | c'mon i even told you who said it |
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| 14:18.13 | Nyle | roderyk: try a diff usb cable? |
| 14:18.14 | roderyk | logs are not telling me anything new; but lsusb shows it first showing up and then disappearing... anyone seen that before? |
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| 14:19.48 | Qantourisc | ok sorry but i MUST ask ... what went so wrong when setting up the nvidia stuff in edge ? |
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| 14:21.02 | sled | hi |
| 14:21.14 | sled | is it possible to install debian on an external usb hdd ? |
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| 14:21.23 | sled | and if yes, it is really bad, bad or ok? |
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| 14:24.20 | liable | sled: its certainly possible, it wont be quite as snappy as an ide drive, but shouldn't be too horendous |
| 14:24.21 | eth01 | ah, gotta her working :D |
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| 14:24.52 | spanther | i have a question :) i bought a WinTV Nova-T lite USB DVB-T stick so i wanted to know if it is compatible or not :) |
| 14:25.01 | Ronin | !tell SW0RDF15H about away |
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| 14:25.51 | liable | sled: check the v4lwiki |
| 14:25.55 | liable | spanther: ^^ |
| 14:26.06 | spanther | uh okay |
| 14:26.18 | roderyk | it's not specific to the cable; why would a printer be detected by usblp, but then disappear after a couple seconds?? |
| 14:26.25 | ethang | i'm going to punch my computer |
| 14:26.32 | ethang | i'm going to punch it so hard |
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| 14:27.24 | claudio` | Does anyone use fetchmail with GMail? |
| 14:27.36 | spanther | liable cause my WinTV Nova-T PCI card from my tower worked fine it had a conexant chip but this here is a usb stick (notebook) hehe |
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| 14:27.52 | roderyk | claudio`: I used fdm; it's like fetchmail + procmail |
| 14:27.57 | spanther | just have problems with playback in all sorts of windows so i wanted to switch my notebook to linux too |
| 14:28.15 | liable | spanther: if your lucky it will have the same chip, but quite possibly not |
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| 14:29.23 | buscon | Hi, anybody knows if I can safely remove my 11gb eisa partition ? |
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| 14:29.37 | claudio` | roderyk: how do you fetch the mails from the "spam" or "trash" folder? |
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| 14:30.18 | spanther | liable uh i'll just try it and when it will work then i am far away from scratchy sound errors :) |
| 14:30.40 | spanther | debian 4.0 r0 should work right? |
| 14:30.49 | spanther | or do i need the new r1 ? |
| 14:30.53 | roderyk | claudio`: you can't; those aren't supported by gmail's pop service :/ |
| 14:31.02 | sled | liable: thank you :) I just need debian to develop my webapps because it's even more horendous doing it on windows :) |
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| 14:31.38 | claudio` | roderyk: we only have to guess the folder name. I'm able to fetch the mails from the inbox folder by using the `-r' flag of fetchmail. My protocol is IMAP, btw. |
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| 14:32.52 | claudio` | roderyk: i'm reading about fdm. THX. Just i wondering why isn't it into the repositories. |
| 14:32.59 | et | claudio`: [Gmail]/Spam and [Gmail]/Trash |
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| 14:33.06 | claudio` | et: let me try |
| 14:33.22 | claudio` | et: yeah |
| 14:33.32 | claudio` | et: you solved me a very big problem!! |
| 14:33.35 | claudio` | THX a lot. |
| 14:34.01 | et | there's "Starred", "Sent Mail", "All Mail", "Drafts" in [Gmail] too btw |
| 14:34.09 | ethang | does anybody here know of an http server other than apache I can use? |
| 14:34.17 | surrounder | lighttpd |
| 14:34.37 | claudio` | et: yes, we just need to put "[GMail]/" before the folder name. Coold |
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| 14:34.49 | claudio` | s/Coold/Cool |
| 14:34.50 | ethang | i'm not going to tolerate apache telling me where I have to put my scripts and ignoring the configuration directives I give it |
| 14:35.20 | ethang | Alias works, ScriptAlias doesn't |
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| 14:35.34 | ethang | i'm frustated enough i'm about to start cursing |
| 14:36.19 | ethang | [Sun Oct 28 10:06:33 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/test.cgi |
| 14:36.32 | roderyk | claudio`: interesting; I will have to look more into this... ;-) |
| 14:36.45 | ethang | of course you can't find it you POS it's in /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin |
| 14:37.47 | raz0 | Hm. What's the prefered way to make an application daemonized with the start-stop-daemon script automatically restart if it crashes? |
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| 14:38.28 | raz0 | I know the 'daemon' script has a switch for it, but I'd prefer it if I could just start-stop-daemon, since it's installed by default. |
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| 14:41.21 | gridl0ck | anyone using gmail-notify and running into port sweeps by the google connection - i end up having 64 tcp connects after last night |
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| 14:42.19 | black_13 | !bootlogd |
| 14:42.20 | dpkg | somebody said bootlogd was disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to get your /var/log/boot file. For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg) |
| 14:43.31 | Alvo | !pos1 |
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| 14:45.01 | black_13 | what package contains bootlogd |
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| 14:46.40 | nvz | hah, picked the laptop up and its telling me about my neighbors media center pcs and shit.. finally figured out how to get it to stop connecting to their damn AP instead of mine |
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| 14:47.05 | nvz | its insane it would connect to their AP way over there instead of the one in my house |
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| 14:47.35 | nvz | I think its just cause their SSID is first alphabetically. heh |
| 14:47.35 | eth01 | nvz: just use netsh - and look at the wireless channels... :/ |
| 14:47.47 | eth01 | then configure it differently. |
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| 14:48.20 | nvz | I figured out the damn windows vista has some stupid wireless manager thing I can configure preference of wireless points |
| 14:48.48 | nvz | I had saved a router called "linksys" that is one of mine somewhere else, and my neighbor here has one by the same name |
| 14:49.02 | nvz | it would just randomly switch between my motorola and the linksys |
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| 14:50.40 | wols | black_13: none, cause it's not a command |
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| 14:51.01 | black_13 | wols, its a script? |
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| 14:52.24 | black_13 | wols actually i have /sbin/bootlogd |
| 14:53.12 | black_13 | why not direct output to a file instead of /dev/console |
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| 14:59.46 | Qantourisc | how to recover from sid ? |
| 15:00.04 | Ronin | Qantourisc: recover what from sid |
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| 15:00.10 | Yachi | k i downloaded a .deb because i couldnt get it from a mirror, how do i execute it? |
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| 15:00.28 | Yachi | i chmoded 777 and tried ./something.deb |
| 15:00.36 | Qantourisc | Ronin: this computer is infected with broken packages from sid, now trying to "upgrade" it back to stable |
| 15:00.40 | Ronin | Yachi: man dpkg |
| 15:00.42 | dani_ | dpkg -i *.deb ---------- as root |
| 15:00.45 | Ronin | Qantourisc: you reinstall |
| 15:00.47 | Yachi | thank you ;) |
| 15:00.58 | Qantourisc | Ronin: serious ? |
| 15:01.00 | Ronin | !downgrade |
| 15:01.00 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 15:01.10 | Ronin | Qantourisc: yep, back up what you want to keep |
| 15:01.18 | Qantourisc | crap ... |
| 15:01.27 | Qantourisc | verry well thanks |
| 15:01.42 | Qantourisc | i don't suppost debian support over installlation ? |
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| 15:06.56 | danielito | in which file do I define wihch window manager to start for which user? |
| 15:07.21 | et | that's the job of the dm |
| 15:07.28 | et | (xdm/kdm/gdm) |
| 15:07.28 | Qantourisc | Ronin: is there a way to export "this list of currenty instlalled programs" ? |
| 15:07.43 | danielito | in /etc/X11/default-display-manager I defined '/usr/bin/gdm', but when I connect to this machine via tightvnc, it automatically starts enlightenment |
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| 15:07.47 | danielito | @et |
| 15:07.48 | ravenbird | extra, extra, read all about it, et is Ethiopia |
| 15:08.14 | et | @it |
| 15:08.15 | ravenbird | "It" is a clown that eats children but turns out to be a spider sorta thing. |
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| 15:09.44 | vin` | Qantourisc: /msg dpkg selections |
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| 15:11.52 | Qantourisc | vin`: thanks |
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| 15:13.36 | Maguire21 | Hi |
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| 15:14.08 | Maguire21 | Does someone knows a howto to install fglry? |
| 15:14.09 | Maguire21 | x |
| 15:14.39 | asg | Maguire21: /msg dpkg fglrx |
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| 15:21.15 | Qantourisc | how do i firgure out if i installe thed 64 bit or the 32 bit version ? |
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| 15:21.45 | sled | 64bit won't work on 32bit :D and 64bit should have x64 in the package name imho |
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| 15:22.16 | Qantourisc | sled: i have a lib64 folder if that helps |
| 15:22.32 | sled | lib64 is 64bit I think |
| 15:22.39 | Qantourisc | i think so too :) |
| 15:22.42 | Qantourisc | but i'm not sure :D |
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| 15:23.19 | sled | check out google :) |
| 15:23.24 | sled | google says it's 64bit |
| 15:23.55 | jelly-home | Qantourisc: dpkg --print-architecture ? |
| 15:24.13 | Qantourisc | jelly-home: no clue i'm a noob |
| 15:24.16 | Qantourisc | but it says i386 |
| 15:25.43 | g0rd0n | how do i find out which hardware monitoring chip i have in my machine? |
| 15:25.56 | Qantourisc | g0rd0n: lspci i think |
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| 15:26.05 | Qantourisc | g0rd0n: but i don't think most machines have them ... |
| 15:26.07 | jelly-home | Qantourisc: also, dpkg -s libc6 |grep ^Architecture |
| 15:26.09 | Qantourisc | not sure tough |
| 15:26.26 | Qantourisc | jelly-home: still says i386 |
| 15:26.31 | Qantourisc | so no 64bit i presume |
| 15:26.38 | jelly-home | Qantourisc: you have an i386 installation then (32bit) |
| 15:26.43 | Qantourisc | btw how is 64bit-32bit support in debian ? |
| 15:26.52 | Qantourisc | (i know in gentoo i have litle or no issues) |
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| 15:27.05 | sylvantis | Hello, how can i make the icons on my desktop open with nautilus --browser instead of the crapped nautilus interface? |
| 15:27.44 | g0rd0n | ok thanks |
| 15:27.56 | Qantourisc | sylvantis: nautilus --browser |
| 15:28.01 | Qantourisc | g0rd0n: do note i'm NOT sure |
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| 15:28.14 | Qantourisc | g0rd0n: since i never installed one before |
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| 15:28.59 | Helmi | g0rd0n, if I'm not mistaken you'll have to run sensors-detect |
| 15:29.08 | jelly-home | Qantourisc: 64bit (amd64) works, but some software is not available for it and is harder to set up common 32-bit apps to work, more than other distros |
| 15:29.13 | sylvantis | Qantourisc: yes, but how do i attatch that command to the icons on my desktop? |
| 15:29.38 | Helmi | gconf-editor? |
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| 15:30.07 | Qantourisc | sylvantis: clueless i don't use gnome :) |
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| 15:30.24 | Qantourisc | sylvantis: i don't even use debian :) |
| 15:31.26 | g0rd0n | Helmi: ok i'll try |
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| 15:32.51 | g0rd0n | Helmi: nice, thanks |
| 15:33.00 | Helmi | np |
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| 15:41.27 | jelly-home | !test |
| 15:41.28 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 15:41.38 | trifler | !dpkg |
| 15:41.38 | dpkg | [dpkg] the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". also ask me about <apt howto> |
| 15:42.23 | M0useP0t4t0 | !apt howto |
| 15:42.23 | dpkg | methinks apt-howto is at http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto, or aptitude install apt-howto-en |
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| 15:43.23 | massctrl | hi all, i'm looking for a solution so I can define this directory may contain 4gb of data and the other directory may contain 1gb of data. It should be user independant, .. so I don't think it's possible with user quota's,... |
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| 15:44.48 | logd | on my sys time adjusted automatically to "non summertime" and that's fine but now some apps shows a time with 1 house less than real timew |
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| 15:50.14 | roldyx | In xine, i get message "Audio Codec : Unavailable (samr). |
| 15:50.57 | roldyx | do i need a codec? |
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| 15:53.15 | norton- | I forgot my rootpassword for my new installation, the old init=/bin/sh trick doesn't seem to work as passwd complains about 'Authentication token lock busy'. Do I need to do a reinstall? |
| 15:53.51 | sneakyp | slow dns lookups (5 seconds) in etch, disabled ipv6, issue still present. any ideas how to debug? |
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| 15:53.56 | Yachi | mabey boot a live cd and read the etc/shadow |
| 15:54.38 | Qantourisc | norton-: nea |
| 15:54.42 | roldyx | norton-: restart and put init=/bin/sh |
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| 15:54.47 | Qantourisc | norton-: unless you encrypted it |
| 15:54.52 | roldyx | in lilo o grub.. |
| 15:54.55 | eth01 | sneakyp: what DNS servers are you using? |
| 15:54.59 | norton- | roldyx: that was what I did. |
| 15:55.04 | norton- | Qantourisc: encrypted what? |
| 15:55.13 | Qantourisc | norton-: your filesystem :) |
| 15:55.27 | norton- | Qantourisc: no it's not :) |
| 15:55.34 | sneakyp | eth01: any. tried my isp, also set up a local dns server. same result. |
| 15:55.48 | Qantourisc | norton-: then listen to euuu roldyx :) |
| 15:56.06 | Qantourisc | oo reminds me ... i still need to download the debian cd's ! |
| 15:56.15 | norton- | I have done that, so now I have a shell |
| 15:56.16 | eth01 | sneakyp: maybe your NIC is dorked. |
| 15:56.22 | norton- | but what to do now? |
| 15:56.49 | sneakyp | eth01: nice.... no game, both eth0 (wired) + eth2 (wireless) same story. |
| 15:56.54 | Qantourisc | norton-: i don't recall exacly :) |
| 15:57.04 | sneakyp | eth01: and it's just DNS lookups. |
| 15:57.06 | eth01 | sneakyp: paste /etc/networks/interfaces |
| 15:57.07 | Qantourisc | norton-: iirc put an empry passsword in /etc/passwd |
| 15:57.17 | Qantourisc | norton-: usually (when using shadowd) it has an X there now |
| 15:57.26 | eth01 | network, even * |
| 15:57.45 | Qantourisc | norton-: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash turn that into root::0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash notise the missing x |
| 15:57.52 | Qantourisc | norton-: IIRC ... cause i'm not sure :) |
| 15:58.06 | norton- | ok, I'll try |
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| 15:58.21 | Qantourisc | norton-: if you hate rebooting, ask someone else |
| 15:58.31 | norton- | hmm, I noticed my filesystem is read only, maybe that was the reason I couldn't use passwd. |
| 15:58.32 | Qantourisc | norton-: if this works the root password will be blank |
| 15:58.39 | Qantourisc | norton-: hehe :) |
| 15:58.45 | Qantourisc | norton-: yes you muse remount it rw |
| 15:58.50 | rocketmagnet | hi, how can i activate the ntp protokol support in my debian for time servers ? |
| 15:58.55 | Qantourisc | iirc remount / -o rw |
| 15:59.03 | Qantourisc | nope :) |
| 15:59.09 | sneakyp | eth01: /etc/network/interfaces (relevant lines)... auto lo / iface lo inet loopback / iface eth0 inet dhcp / iface eth2 inet dhcp // wireless-essid gift / wireless-key s:password-here |
| 15:59.15 | Gnu_Raiz | install chrony |
| 15:59.17 | norton- | yeah, ive remounted it rw |
| 15:59.17 | Qantourisc | norton-: mount / -o remount,rw iirc |
| 15:59.21 | norton- | correct |
| 15:59.23 | Gnu_Raiz | use the pools |
| 15:59.27 | norton- | and now just using passwd worked |
| 15:59.29 | norton- | :) |
| 15:59.50 | norton- | thanks for the help! |
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| 16:01.28 | Flawless | On a correctly configured debian system, is /etc/hostname supposed to contain "foo" or "foo.place.org" ? |
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| 16:02.42 | sneakyp | rockmagnet: check /etc/ntp.conf, then restart using /etc/init.d/ntp restart, per Gnu_Raiz use the pools |
| 16:02.45 | tralala | any of them is fine |
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| 16:03.28 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet (sorry, spelling!): check /etc/ntp.conf, then restart using /etc/init.d/ntp restart, per Gnu_Raiz use the pools |
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| 16:03.55 | Ramattack | Hi |
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| 16:04.09 | Ramattack | does anyone know how to cause permanent failure on maildrop on overquota event? |
| 16:04.10 | sneakyp | ramattack: hi, ask your questions |
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| 16:05.50 | rocketmagnet | sneakyp: the /etc/ntp.conf is empty |
| 16:06.02 | rocketmagnet | but exists |
| 16:06.21 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: ah, half way there. wait a bit, I'll post a plain setup... |
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| 16:08.01 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: first up, strange that it is empty (why?) but try this: (three lines) server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst / server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst / server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst |
| 16:08.37 | claudio` | et (and #debian in general), do you have an idea of why IMAP doesn't works for an account but works for another? Are both on GMail and both with POP/IMAP forwarding enabled. |
| 16:09.35 | sneakyp | eth01: dude, that wasn't a complicated /etc/network/interfaces! c'mon - any ideas? those dns lookups are soooo slow... five seconds for everything! surfing HURTS! |
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| 16:11.18 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: maybe better to 'aptitude purge ntp-simple' followed by 'aptitude install ntp-simple' first... then see what you ntp.conf looks like. weird that it is blank. |
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| 16:11.43 | rocketmagnet | k, i'll try this |
| 16:11.46 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: ntp-simple, or whatever you relevant package is - depends on your distro version |
| 16:12.05 | rocketmagnet | haven't found something with apt-cache search ntp |
| 16:12.18 | rocketmagnet | ah |
| 16:12.22 | rocketmagnet | but found ntp-simpe =) |
| 16:12.25 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: check 'aptitude search ntp|grep ^i' |
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| 16:16.10 | rocketmagnet | sneakyp: now after installing, how to set system time to nettime ? i've set my system clock to use ntp but the time is still wrong |
| 16:16.24 | sled | wrong timezone? |
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| 16:16.41 | jelly-home | wow, one third of ubuntu source packages are their own |
| 16:17.14 | rocketmagnet | no |
| 16:17.41 | Helmi | rocketmagnet, set utc to yes in /etc/default/rcS |
| 16:17.57 | a-atwood | rocketmagnet: ntpdate -s <time> |
| 16:18.14 | a-atwood | rocketmagnet: may have to stop ntp first |
| 16:18.25 | limpio | hi, can someone tell me how to move a screen to a different workspace in ratpoison? |
| 16:18.43 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: a number of options... one, wait; two, set your clock to wristwatch time + restart ntp, and three; some weird option with ntpd with options that I forget to force fast track time. the quick answer? unless you are running a server, set your BIOS to wristwatch time via reboot and enjoy the benefits. |
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| 16:19.42 | rocketmagnet | a-atwood: i have no ntpdate cmd |
| 16:19.54 | rocketmagnet | only ntpd/ ntptime |
| 16:20.02 | rocketmagnet | ntptrace, ntp-wait |
| 16:20.27 | sneakyp | a-atwood: have they fixed the silly ntpdate/ntpd interaction yet? I remember that if you installed ntpdate it would force set the time at boot which interferred with ntpq....? |
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| 16:23.16 | keith4_ | when I go to open a .doc file in firefox, it gives me abiword as a choice, but not openoffice. is there a proper way to fix this? |
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| 16:23.22 | sneakyp | rocketmagnet: maybe try (no guareentee) 'ntpq -q 0.debian.pool.ntp.org', and then restart '/etc/init.d/ntp restart'. oh, and it takes a couple of mins |
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| 16:24.17 | sneakyp | anyone got a solution to how to debug my slow dns issue??? |
| 16:24.35 | keith4_ | run your own caching dns server? |
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| 16:25.24 | sneakyp | keith4_: i do, but that is as slow as my isp. pretty much always 5 seconds |
| 16:25.27 | massctrl | hello, what's that status of xfs in linux? Is it considered to be a stable/production fs ? |
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| 16:26.31 | simonrvn | has been since the late-2.4 (2.4.18) days |
| 16:26.31 | jelly-home | sneakyp: strace comes to mind. eg. strace -tt -T -o/tmp/strace.log getent hosts www.google.com |
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| 16:27.21 | jelly-home | sneakyp: then take a look at the log, what does it wait for 5 seconds |
| 16:27.24 | keith4_ | sneakyp, that's sad. use someone else's DNS |
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| 16:28.19 | Yachi | whats the name of the package for the latest ogg vorbis? |
| 16:29.19 | sneakyp | jelly-home: ok, you have given me something to chew on. excellent. |
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| 16:30.38 | jelly-home | sneakyp: you can also try removing mdns4 from /etc/nsswitch.conf. if that fixes the delay, you need to figure out why does your normal dns not find anything making the resolver fall back to mdns |
| 16:30.41 | sneakyp | jelly-home: i don't grok the log. yet. i'll need time to understand it. so, unless you have some immediate suggestions, i'll be off to RTFM. |
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| 16:31.31 | jelly-home | sneakyp: (assuming the hosts line in /etc/nsswitch.conf does mention mdns4) |
| 16:31.39 | sneakyp | jelly-home: my nsswitch.conf says: 'hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4' |
| 16:32.12 | jelly-home | sneakyp: try getting rid of the last word (mdns4), just to test |
| 16:33.56 | sneakyp | jelly-home: nope. still 5.xxx seconds on various dns queries using dig |
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| 16:34.14 | shriphani | can someone tell me why 99 % of the themes I get from debian-art.org don't work? |
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| 16:34.27 | shriphani | i get messages of the kind 'file format invalid; |
| 16:34.58 | jelly-home | sneakyp: ah, the actual dns queries are slow? then it's not resolver library issue, but your dns (or network perhaps) |
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| 16:35.16 | logd | on my sys time adjusted automatically to "non summertime" and that's fine but now some apps shows a time with 1 house less than real timew |
| 16:35.33 | jelly-home | sneakyp: which dns cache are you using locally? |
| 16:35.48 | dutchfish | logd, /etc/init.d/ntp restart |
| 16:36.32 | logd | bash: /etc/init.d/ntp: No such file or directory |
| 16:36.47 | dutchfish | logd, do you sync by ntpdate? |
| 16:37.08 | AlexanderVDM | that is just too funny |
| 16:37.12 | wols | logd: then restart those apps |
| 16:37.58 | logd | yes but this happened today: my pc was turned online since days - at 3:00 tonight my local time changed according to wintertime and system did it's job without my intervention |
| 16:37.59 | sneakyp | jelly-home: either my ISP (resolv.conf: nameserver 192.168.1.1, ie my router), or local dns server (nameserver localhost) both have the same issue |
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| 16:38.29 | logd | but now it works like this : pc time is set up correctly but apps subrtacts 1 hour |
| 16:38.37 | jelly-home | sneakyp: which nameserver software do you have installed on the machine? |
| 16:38.40 | dutchfish | logd, what apps? |
| 16:38.55 | logd | many but expecially superkaramba and it gadgets |
| 16:38.56 | Alvo | hi, im logging into ssh from putty, german umlauts workz, but not special keys like "pos1" or "end" |
| 16:38.57 | sneakyp | jelly-home: the fact that it is always 5.xxx seconds is a bit of a giveaway to a systemic problem |
| 16:39.03 | logd | wose call getTime to display |
| 16:39.16 | Alvo | i mean, how can i fix diz? |
| 16:39.19 | Helmi | doesgnome/kde have its own timesettings ? |
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| 16:39.22 | logd | same for gkrellm |
| 16:39.31 | sneakyp | jelly-home: pdns-recursor |
| 16:39.44 | logd | so time on taskbar is rigt time n gkrellm superkarambaand more is time -1 hour |
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| 16:40.30 | logd | but if i do change system time even in biios all times are changed so far |
| 16:41.01 | dutchfish | !ntp |
| 16:41.01 | dpkg | i heard ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 16:41.07 | logd | so if i set 17.40 in bios time is displayed 18.40 in taskbar and 18.40 in apps |
| 16:41.17 | logd | i'm already using ntpdate |
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| 16:41.20 | logd | to set up time |
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| 16:41.39 | dutchfish | logd, try ntpdate [your time server or pool] |
| 16:41.46 | logd | tried |
| 16:41.50 | keith4_ | timezone? |
| 16:41.57 | dkg | Just to let you know.. DeviL_OfGiRL_duS is spamming people on join |
| 16:42.00 | logd | and this happens: time in taskbar's right |
| 16:42.00 | keith4_ | daylight savings weirdness? |
| 16:42.09 | logd | time in apps is time with one hour less |
| 16:42.20 | logd | keith4, yes i guess is something like that |
| 16:42.41 | dutchfish | keith4, none of my debian systems so far |
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| 16:44.00 | suppaman | hi |
| 16:44.13 | logd | so: in my country now it's 17.43 and the clock in the ticker says it's 17.43 soit's good |
| 16:44.23 | suppaman | logd: CET |
| 16:44.25 | dutchfish | logd, what does ntpdate [your timeserver] tells you? |
| 16:44.25 | logd | but clock in gkrellm and other apps says it's 16.43 |
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| 16:44.38 | logd | 28 Oct 16:43:33 ntpdate[17525]: adjust time server 193.204.114.105 offset -0.003190 sec |
| 16:44.41 | suppaman | logd: no, probably GMT then |
| 16:44.50 | sneakyp | jelly-home: i'll go read up on your strace example. at least it will show me what is happening. bet you whatever it is will be really simple. so... thanks - have a good one. |
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| 16:45.07 | suppaman | logd: UK? Spain ? |
| 16:45.11 | logd | italy |
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| 16:45.17 | logd | timezone is gmt+1 |
| 16:45.22 | dutchfish | logd, try rerun tzconfig and tell me what happens |
| 16:45.29 | keith4_ | when I go to open a .doc file in firefox, it gives me abiword as a choice, but not openoffice. is there a proper way to fix this? |
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| 16:45.49 | logd | bash: tzconfig: command not found |
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| 16:45.58 | dutchfish | logd, are you root? |
| 16:46.04 | logd | yes |
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| 16:46.22 | jelly-home | !ops DeviL_OfGiRL_duS on-join spam |
| 16:46.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: DeviL_OfGiRL_duS on-join spam |
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| 16:46.40 | logd | i guess that's not installed |
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| 16:46.48 | dutchfish | logd, this is a debian system? |
| 16:46.50 | logd | yes |
| 16:46.57 | logd | edebian 4 |
| 16:46.57 | quittt | is there a way to get Communicator for Debian? |
| 16:47.03 | jelly-home | dkg: that's the way to do it (play the guitar on the mtv) |
| 16:47.08 | suppaman | logd: haha |
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| 16:47.21 | dkg | jelly: What? |
| 16:47.26 | quittt | Netscape Communicator... yeah, the old one, Netscape 4.8 |
| 16:47.33 | logd | <suppaman> what for haha ? |
| 16:47.34 | dkg | jelly-home, even: What? |
| 16:47.47 | dto | how do I get a list of all documentation (whichever formats) related to a given command on a debian system. |
| 16:47.47 | suppaman | logd: I'm in Naples |
| 16:47.55 | jelly-home | dkg: to notify the channel operators of spam bots the next time you see it, ^^ |
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| 16:48.08 | logd | yes and u're using fastweb but what for ? |
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| 16:48.26 | suppaman | logd: what for am I using fw ? |
| 16:48.41 | logd | mean what for smiling |
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| 16:49.18 | suppaman | logd: I laughed as I was trying to guess you country while you're from Italy too |
| 16:49.19 | quittt | can I install Debian in a 386? |
| 16:49.21 | dutchfish | logd, maybe this helps: http://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges |
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| 16:49.34 | logd | ah fine then |
| 16:49.57 | Flawless | On a correctly configured debian system, is /etc/hostname supposed to contain "foo" or "foo.place.org" ? |
| 16:50.42 | dutchfish | Flawless, default foo |
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| 16:50.58 | logd | <dutchfish>unfortunately doesn' |
| 16:51.21 | dutchfish | logd, weird that you dont have tzconfig |
| 16:51.29 | dutchfish | logd, normally it shoul dbe there |
| 16:51.43 | dutchfish | !tzconfig |
| 16:51.48 | dpkg | from memory, setting time is if you're using a coexisting DOS/Win on your x86, put UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS else put UTC=yes. use tzconfig to set the right timezone, then use date (man date) to set time (avoid doing that when precious applications are running, some might get confused). Now do hwclock --systohc if RTC is local, or hwclock --systohc --utc if UTC. Erase /etc/adjtime and repeat the previous command again. This prevents wrong time drift ... |
| 16:52.09 | jelly-home | quittt: not a recent one, even the theoretical minimum is a 486 now. |
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| 16:52.29 | quittt | jelly-home, oh... I want to ressurrect some old PCs |
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| 16:53.20 | trpr | quittt: i am sure they can run it.. just don't be surprised if a GUI is too much for them to handle |
| 16:53.26 | smhar | greetings |
| 16:53.36 | andriijas | im running unstable and i recently got troubles with smb shares and symlinks, anyone who knows if any default config has been altered? |
| 16:53.36 | quittt | do you know where I can upload some old operating systems? |
| 16:53.55 | quittt | I have BeOS R3 for x86 and this is almost gone from the face of earth |
| 16:54.14 | quittt | I do need to upload it somewhere... |
| 16:54.41 | suppaman | quittt: I don't know if it's legal |
| 16:54.59 | jelly-home | quittt: we use some P1 / 32MB RAM machines as terminals, it's acceptable. Try a specialized small-footprint distro. DSL or slax |
| 16:55.06 | radius | if they are licensed os's then it is not legal |
| 16:55.40 | quittt | suppaman, well... it is for historical reasons... Be, Inc. was bankrupcted six years ago |
| 16:55.51 | suppaman | quittt: and was bought by Palm Inc. |
| 16:55.56 | quittt | yes |
| 16:56.08 | jelly-home | quittt: hm, slax requirements are 486 and 36MB RAM. http://www.slax.org/requirements.php but is a nice livecd. |
| 16:56.10 | suppaman | quittt: due to M$ unfair anticompetitive marketing |
| 16:56.24 | smhar | I have debian lenny installed and running on my notebook, but I want to install debian etch with LAMP to be used as a server (demo network) while being able to connect to it from the notebook lenny or another (dummy client). I know I can use vmware for this and it is installed an running (for windows) is there a better way of doing this? better program? |
| 16:56.28 | suppaman | but I still think it's not publid domain |
| 16:56.32 | quittt | Copyright licenses are idiot... |
| 16:56.49 | jelly-home | wasn't there an opensource project aiming to be compatible with beos? |
| 16:56.57 | suppaman | quittt: kinda |
| 16:57.01 | quittt | suppaman, I know... I used to use it... it was a great OS... it is being ressurrected by Haiku-OS... see haiku-os.org |
| 16:57.03 | suppaman | jelly-home: Haiku-os |
| 16:57.18 | dutchfish | logd, what does dpkg-reconfigure tzdata tells you? |
| 16:57.22 | quittt | suppaman, they are idiot because they don't see the historical way... |
| 16:57.22 | jelly-home | suppaman: yeah! |
| 16:57.34 | quittt | like Windows 2... Copyright licenses for Windows 2?!?! |
| 16:57.58 | logd | good by issuing that both time are equal thx |
| 16:58.03 | quittt | I think they prefer something vanished from the face of earth than preserving it for historical studies... |
| 16:58.30 | jelly-home | it's their product, they have the right to apply whatever license they want. |
| 16:58.41 | logd | <dutchfish>many thx |
| 16:58.49 | dutchfish | logd, yw |
| 16:58.52 | quittt | jelly-home, it is a very capitalist way of thinking |
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| 16:59.10 | jelly-home | quittt: capitalism works in real world. :-) |
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| 16:59.25 | norton- | When doing an update with aptitude, it says "W: GPG error: http://ftp.....com |
| 16:59.30 | norton- | oops |
| 16:59.35 | quittt | well... not for everyone |
| 16:59.39 | jelly-home | anyway, economic systems are not topical here, I'm withdrawing. |
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| 16:59.52 | norton- | When doing an update with aptitude, it says "W: GPG error: http://ftp.....org etch Release: unknown error executing gpgv". Any idea? |
| 16:59.59 | dkg | Obviously no one cares that a spam bot is active in this channel. |
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| 17:00.30 | norton- | running gpg by itselfs gives me the message: gpgv: keyblock resource '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
| 17:00.39 | norton- | s/gpg/gpgv |
| 17:00.59 | jelly-home | dkg: they'll get to it eventually. If it bothers you much, try to find someone from freenode staff. |
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| 17:01.27 | mentor | Wow |
| 17:01.33 | mentor | I can KLine simply by opping myself |
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| 17:01.41 | grub | heh |
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| 17:02.11 | dkg | mentor: Hehe |
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| 17:03.10 | quittt | jelly-home, these copyrights licenses here in Brazil are getting crazy |
| 17:03.26 | ana` | !qotd0 |
| 17:03.26 | dpkg | <reality> whats the debian package with all the build essentials? |
| 17:03.31 | quittt | we learly copyrighted Machado de Assis works... |
| 17:03.44 | quittt | he is dead since 1903... |
| 17:03.51 | quittt | ... |
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| 17:04.36 | jelly-home | stew: it's been dealt with |
| 17:05.10 | dutchfish | mentor, man apt-key (depends on wich repositories you are using) |
| 17:05.29 | jelly-home | !info xchat sid |
| 17:05.33 | dpkg | xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.8.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 292 kB, Installed size: 716 kB |
| 17:05.42 | jelly-home | hmph. |
| 17:05.51 | mentor | dutchfish: over there |
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| 17:09.05 | suppaman | bye |
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| 17:09.46 | bullgard4 | man getty writes: "DESCRIPTION: getty opens a tty port, prompts for a login name and invokes the /bin/login command. It is normally invoked by init(8)." What is a 'tty port'? |
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| 17:11.46 | mentor | bullgard4: local terminal. It's from the fact that these used to be teletype machines |
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| 17:16.16 | dutchfish | Alvo, is console-tools installed? |
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| 17:18.04 | jelly-home | bullgard4: most commonly, it's a linux vt (those things you see on ctrl-alt-f1 to ctrl-alt-f6) , but getty can be used on other tty compatible devices too, like a serial port (eg. /dev/ttyS0) |
| 17:18.24 | ricardo | hi i am going to write a script to log into any wireless access point. what would i need to put for the essid ? |
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| 17:19.39 | ricardo | essid =none . it will be a bash script |
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| 17:20.14 | smhar | I have debian lenny installed and running on my notebook, but I want to install debian etch with LAMP to be used as a server (demo network) while being able to connect to it from the notebook lenny or another (dummy client). I know I can use vmware for this and it is installed an running (for windows) is there a better way of doing this? better program? |
| 17:20.51 | rmaj | debian floods me with Buss event messages, and blanks its screen, when I close laptop lid; Hand builded 2.6.23 where to report the bug? probably debian fault or kernel devels? |
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| 17:22.17 | dutchfish | smhar, for testing purposes qemu will do fine |
| 17:22.19 | theatro | rmaj, search google for the repeated message you get |
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| 17:24.28 | jelly-home | is there a way to save debug output from udev during initramfs somehow? |
| 17:24.34 | dutchfish | rmaj, maybe its not kernel but udev. .... |
| 17:25.36 | dutchfish | rmaj, as far as i know 2.6.23 is not in testing yet |
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| 17:25.41 | abrotman | !bootlog |
| 17:25.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, bootlogd is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to get your /var/log/boot file. For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg) |
| 17:25.47 | abrotman | maybe?> |
| 17:26.19 | tralala | jelly-home, by using qemu perhaps |
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| 17:28.07 | vsayikiran | how to use irda device in latitude d520 laptop |
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| 17:29.04 | abrotman | !info irda-utils etch |
| 17:29.12 | dpkg | irda-utils: (IrDA management and handling utilities), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.18-5 (etch), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 260 kB |
| 17:29.27 | jelly-home | tralala: I only have one debian installation, and am wary of booting the same partition in qemu and physical hardware at the same time. Serial console is one solution but I need another machine to do that. And a serial port too. |
| 17:30.02 | dutchfish | jelly-home, bootlog works fine i gues |
| 17:30.22 | bullgard4 | mentor, jelly-home: Thank you for explaining. |
| 17:30.28 | Ranpha1 | is there a linux programma which can store and then check the complete hash of a whole disk? |
| 17:30.58 | tralala | jelly-home, it's trivial to create a small disk image with your initrd in it and pass it to qemu. Perhaps you could even emulate serial console in there. |
| 17:31.29 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, if the disk partitions ar not mounted, you can do this with tar & md5sum |
| 17:31.30 | tralala | Ranpha1, md5sum |
| 17:31.46 | vsayikiran | md5sum is a hash command |
| 17:31.48 | jelly-home | dutchfish: ah, I don't have it installed. I'll try it, thanks. |
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| 17:32.30 | abrotman | dutchfish: i dont' think he even needs tar |
| 17:32.34 | vsayikiran | how to transfer and what config is required for transfering data using irda port |
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| 17:33.10 | dutchfish | abrotman, md5sum chokes on /dev/... |
| 17:33.14 | tralala | vsayikiran, transfer what? |
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| 17:33.28 | abrotman | dutchfish: never tried .. but if you say so |
| 17:33.42 | vsayikiran | i have installed irda-utils but dont know how to connect |
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| 17:33.55 | jelly-home | tralala: right. That might help if qemu supports usb (trying to figurie out why udev creates "/dev/4-2" on my hardware, and it's a usb device) |
| 17:33.55 | subprime | hi |
| 17:33.55 | dutchfish | abrotman, like md5sum a 0-file |
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| 17:34.10 | subprime | what torrent client is for debian ? |
| 17:34.27 | abrotman | subprime: GUI or CLI ? |
| 17:34.31 | dutchfish | subprime, apt-cache search torrent |
| 17:34.35 | subprime | abrotman: textmode is fine |
| 17:34.39 | tralala | jelly-home, erm... |
| 17:34.43 | jelly-home | subprime: rtorrent for terminal is decent |
| 17:34.53 | abrotman | rtorrent |
| 17:34.58 | subprime | thanks |
| 17:34.58 | vsayikiran | i am not unable to transfer file using fast ir port |
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| 17:35.16 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, so you are able? |
| 17:35.20 | Ronin | heh |
| 17:35.24 | jelly-home | subprime: key commands are weird and defaults are ugly, but it's very configurable |
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| 17:35.33 | tralala | vsayikiran, there are plenty of ways to do data transfer over ir, which one of them are you trying to achieve? |
| 17:35.33 | vsayikiran | tralala: i want to transfer some data form cell phone |
| 17:35.39 | tralala | phonebook? |
| 17:35.43 | abrotman | !in |
| 17:35.45 | dpkg | hmm... in is India, or #debianindia |
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| 17:35.56 | tralala | bring up irda0 and use irxfer |
| 17:36.01 | tralala | !find irxfer |
| 17:36.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'irxfer' (1): (/usr/bin/irxfer) in comm/openobex-apps. |
| 17:36.15 | subprime | jelly-home: yea |
| 17:36.37 | Ranpha1 | and if i want to store every checksum of every file on my disk and compare then every 3 months is this also possible? |
| 17:36.49 | tralala | vsayikiran, or multisync |
| 17:36.55 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, sure |
| 17:36.59 | vsayikiran | tralala: i have installed irda-utils but it not able to detect cell phone |
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| 17:37.25 | vsayikiran | tralala: just simple file transfer, like sending mp3 songs to my pc |
| 17:37.36 | tralala | irxfer |
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| 17:37.50 | tralala | irda0 has to be up |
| 17:37.50 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish in a easy gui so that i checksum over 5 million files ? |
| 17:38.01 | vsayikiran | tralala: using fast ir i want to transfer files |
| 17:38.01 | vsayikiran | what is irxfer |
| 17:38.13 | tralala | to verify that ir is working you can enable discovery and watch the output of irdadump |
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| 17:38.25 | tralala | sysctl -w net.irda.discovery=1 |
| 17:38.32 | vsayikiran | tralala: i have installed irda-utils may be some config changes may be requires |
| 17:38.34 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, why not backup them too with rdiff-backup? |
| 17:39.12 | vsayikiran | tralala: how to enable discovery, i want info from scratch |
| 17:39.27 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish, i already back then up over ssh with rsync. But i want to store a big checksum databse and compare this to the source if there are no files being corrupted over time |
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| 17:39.49 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, just use md5sum with tar to /dev/null and pipe the output verbose to a log |
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| 17:40.20 | wirefire | hi does anyone know the name of the panels you can get for your desktops which displays cpu info, memory, weather etc? not sure what they are called? |
| 17:40.27 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, or to a database i fyou want |
| 17:40.42 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish i check it out on google, it sounds complicated |
| 17:40.57 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, its actually simple script |
| 17:41.15 | derek__ | I'm getting my video card to work right now using the "radeon" driver. If I modprobe radeon and then use it everything works great but it doesn't seem like when I reboot the driver is being modprobed. I'm sure this is some basic config or setting I don't know about but I'm new to Debian and am not really sure what to Google for. Anybody know what I need to change to get this to work on boot? |
| 17:41.24 | rmaj | dutchfish: yes I builded it by hand |
| 17:41.28 | tralala | vsayikiran, http://rafb.net/p/3jOSe465.html |
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| 17:41.41 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish yeah but i want something easy with a simple gui :-) |
| 17:41.45 | Azio | hello, this is a really noobish question but: |
| 17:41.45 | wols | derek__: put it in /etc/modutils/ |
| 17:41.49 | wols | derek__: put it in /etc/modules |
| 17:41.55 | Azio | how do i change a command like ffmpeg ln -s ? |
| 17:42.07 | Azio | I have compiled my own and the path has moved |
| 17:42.16 | derek__ | wols: thanks, looks like that should work, i'll reboot and give it a try |
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| 17:42.33 | abrotman | Azio: change it to what ? |
| 17:42.38 | vsayikiran | tralala: do you how to start ir service |
| 17:42.44 | Azio | -bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory |
| 17:42.50 | Azio | I installed in /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg |
| 17:42.55 | Azio | (recompiled) |
| 17:42.58 | Azio | Just wondering where the "alias" for the command is |
| 17:43.03 | vsayikiran | tralala: because i am not sure whether ir is enabled or not |
| 17:43.07 | tralala | vsayikiran, by loading the appropriate driver, nsc-ircc for thinkpads |
| 17:43.45 | vsayikiran | tralala: for dell latitude |
| 17:43.53 | tralala | vsayikiran, /msg dpkg laptops |
| 17:44.16 | vsayikiran | tralala: i have installed irda-utils isnt it enough |
| 17:44.24 | abrotman | !irda |
| 17:44.24 | dpkg | i guess irda is (InfraRed Data Association) These people developed the IRDA port standard that transfers data through the use of infrared light. Of course, you must have two IRDA devices to get any real use out of this technology. Most notebooks today come standard with this port and some printers do as well. It's handy if you road warriors want to print a document and you've got all the right stuff. |
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| 17:44.32 | abrotman | most notebooks ? |
| 17:44.44 | tralala | vsayikiran, I don't know. Did you follow the instructions I gave you? |
| 17:45.01 | vsayikiran | tralala: just seeing |
| 17:45.35 | tralala | abrotman, do you prefer "many"? |
| 17:46.05 | abrotman | tralala: i don't think that it's true anymore |
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| 17:46.21 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish still haven't found what i want. Let me explain it again. I want a program which stores the checksum to a file . The files needed to be checked are like 5 millin different files. So i get 5 million checksum files . |
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| 17:46.37 | Ranpha1 | With this i can check if the source has been corrupted or not |
| 17:46.41 | tralala | the factiod isn't all that informative anyhow |
| 17:46.41 | salvin | hi |
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| 17:46.49 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, you could look at the sources of tripwire it does simulair things |
| 17:46.49 | abrotman | tralala: there's that too :) |
| 17:46.49 | vsayikiran | tralala: " ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" |
| 17:46.58 | salvin | who use lenny? |
| 17:47.06 | abrotman | i am lenny! |
| 17:47.16 | vsayikiran | tralala: any other method |
| 17:47.20 | tralala | vsayikiran, you need to figure out which ir driver your laptop needs and load it |
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| 17:47.23 | norton- | my /var/lib/dpkg/available seems corrupt, can I make a new one easily? |
| 17:47.27 | salvin | abrotman, you name is lenny? |
| 17:47.37 | abrotman | salvin: what do you need help with? |
| 17:47.41 | tralala | vsayikiran, afterwards apply the commands again |
| 17:47.45 | salvin | xD |
| 17:47.52 | abrotman | norton-: there's an available-old in there too |
| 17:47.56 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish ...i look into it but i finally found the name for whch i want it's a file integrity scanner:-) |
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| 17:47.59 | vsayikiran | please someone help how to use fast ir port in dell latitude |
| 17:48.03 | salvin | abrotman, do you have any FPS quake based? |
| 17:48.08 | salvin | or quake? |
| 17:48.11 | tralala | !laptops |
| 17:48.11 | dpkg | [laptop] All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 17:48.16 | abrotman | salvin: no idea .. i don't play many PC games |
| 17:48.16 | dutchfish | !tripwire |
| 17:48.16 | dpkg | from memory, tripwire is a File System integrity checker for "Intrusion Detection" using cyrptographic checksums such as MD5 and Blowfish. Layman's terms: It tells you if you've been haX03d and 0w3n3d.. Use AIDE instead, or for open source tripwire see http://www.tripwire.org/ and for CVS instructions see http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3130 |
| 17:48.20 | tralala | vsayikiran, go check there ^^ |
| 17:48.35 | abrotman | salvin: i know there are games like quake .. dunno if they use the quake engine |
| 17:48.41 | abrotman | !info nexiuz lenny |
| 17:48.44 | tralala | dutchfish, you spoiled my pointer |
| 17:48.56 | abrotman | grr .. what is it |
| 17:49.09 | dutchfish | tralala, sorry for that ;) |
| 17:49.15 | abrotman | !info nexuiz lenny |
| 17:49.19 | abrotman | i was close |
| 17:49.19 | salvin | like tremulous |
| 17:49.22 | dpkg | nexuiz: (A fast-paced 3D first-person shooter), section games, is optional. Version: 2.3-3 (lenny), Packaged size: 645 kB, Installed size: 1552 kB |
| 17:49.26 | salvin | however |
| 17:49.44 | salvin | they don't work |
| 17:50.04 | Daveman | Hey abrotman :) |
| 17:50.04 | salvin | they kill X |
| 17:50.04 | abrotman | Daveman: hi |
| 17:50.08 | abrotman | salvin: need mroe info .. |
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| 17:50.16 | g0rd0n | i have trouble with an old ultra scsi drive... it's low formatted now, it works, but i am unable to partition it... both windows and debian give "unknown" errors... debian fails when trying to set the disc label... is there maybe a special way for initializing scsi drives which i forgot? |
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| 17:50.40 | salvin | abrotman, no errors |
| 17:50.49 | abrotman | salvin: not in the logs either |
| 17:50.50 | abrotman | ? |
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| 17:50.53 | vsayikiran | please who is using dell latitude reply |
| 17:50.58 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, if its scsii 2 maybe wrong speed setting sin controller? |
| 17:51.07 | abrotman | might not be terminated correctly? |
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| 17:51.22 | salvin | only a backtrace |
| 17:51.25 | dutchfish | abrotman, good point |
| 17:51.29 | abrotman | vsayikiran: you realize there are about 500 different latitude models right? |
| 17:51.29 | g0rd0n | no i didnt change anything in the controller, it was working before... i just wrote zeroes to the drive, and since then i am unable to partition/format it |
| 17:51.35 | vsayikiran | which driver is required to use fast ir |
| 17:51.44 | tralala | vsayikiran, are you ignoring my answers on purpose? |
| 17:51.48 | abrotman | g0rd0n: does either OS see the controller/drive? |
| 17:51.54 | salvin | abrotman, don't run |
| 17:52.02 | g0rd0n | yes, i can see the drive, but i cannot partition it |
| 17:52.21 | salvin | kill x at startup |
| 17:52.25 | abrotman | salvin: what don't run? there should be errors in the logs in /var/log/ |
| 17:53.00 | salvin | FPS don't run |
| 17:53.09 | salvin | wait |
| 17:53.15 | salvin | i check |
| 17:53.16 | vsayikiran | tralala: no iam not ignoring i am searching if someone else can help me |
| 17:53.36 | vsayikiran | tralala: those links are not much helpful to me |
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| 17:54.08 | tralala | vsayikiran, I can hardly belive that you gave them but a quick glance |
| 17:54.26 | vsayikiran | tralala: is there any difference between irda0 and /dev/ttyS1 |
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| 17:54.46 | tralala | yes |
| 17:55.04 | abrotman | jesus |
| 17:55.22 | vsayikiran | tralala: i have searched a method for thinkpad notebooks i dont know whther it will work in my pc |
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| 17:55.31 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, did you try to boot install-disk with NOAPIC acpi=off ? |
| 17:55.46 | tralala | vsayikiran, you're supposed to search for *your* laptop and see how other people have made ir work |
| 17:55.55 | vsayikiran | tralala: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ this site does not show my pc name |
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| 17:56.15 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: i'll try |
| 17:56.18 | salvin | abrotman, only this: |
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| 17:56.20 | salvin | Backtrace: |
| 17:56.20 | salvin | 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c82f1] |
| 17:56.20 | salvin | 1: [0xb7f5c420] |
| 17:56.20 | salvin | Fatal server error: |
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| 17:56.28 | abrotman | seem bad to anyone else? |
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| 17:56.49 | tralala | vsayikiran, have a look to the similar models, the chances are that they use the same driver |
| 17:56.53 | salvin | 4 lines isn't flood :D |
| 17:56.57 | abrotman | in here it is |
| 17:57.00 | grub | ir? i have latitude d520, it doesnt have ir |
| 17:57.00 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:57.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:57.03 | vsayikiran | tralala: http://linux.spiney.org/debian_gnu_linux_on_an_ibm_thinkpad_t43p_infrared see this , can i do same thing in my dell laptop pc |
| 17:57.04 | salvin | ok |
| 17:57.12 | salvin | however |
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| 17:57.15 | salvin | any idea? |
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| 17:57.20 | gribouille | hi |
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| 17:57.29 | tralala | vsayikiran, yes, if you have a thinkpad t43p |
| 17:57.29 | abrotman | salvin: we didn't get it all .. |
| 17:57.41 | abrotman | vsayikiran: what's your native language? |
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| 17:58.03 | gribouille | I have build and installed my own .deb package. when I search one of its files with apt-file, there is no output. any idea ? |
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| 17:58.08 | salvin | abrotman, what is all? |
| 17:58.18 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:58.18 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:58.18 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, tried this: http://linux.dell.com/ |
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| 17:58.40 | abrotman | gribouille: it's not in the Contents file ... |
| 17:58.49 | abrotman | gribouille: but you can search with dpkg -S also |
| 17:59.05 | gribouille | abrotman, what is the Contents file ? |
| 17:59.36 | abrotman | gribouille: look in /var/lib/apt/ |
| 17:59.39 | wols | gribouille: how did you install the .deb? |
| 18:00.04 | gribouille | wols, with dpkg |
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| 18:00.18 | wols | gribouille: so it's not in a repository, so apt can't know about it |
| 18:00.25 | salvin | abrotman, http://rafb.net/p/7938Eu65.html |
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| 18:00.39 | abrotman | salvin: that's it? |
| 18:00.43 | gribouille | wols, so, what should I do ? |
| 18:00.55 | abrotman | gribouille: dpkg -S or dpkg -L |
| 18:01.00 | wols | gribouille: why would you need it to show up in apt-file? |
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| 18:01.11 | vsayikiran | grub: when did you purchase dell latitude d520 |
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| 18:01.18 | grub | vsayikiran, 1 month back |
| 18:01.39 | vsayikiran | abrotman: why my native language is becoming your concern |
| 18:01.46 | gribouille | wols, because apt-file is used by dh-make-perl |
| 18:01.53 | keith4_ | is there a way to execute a command from history using it's number in `history` ? |
| 18:01.54 | abrotman | because your english isn't very good |
| 18:02.00 | salvin | abrotman, the output |
| 18:02.04 | vsayikiran | grub: i purchased one year ago |
| 18:02.08 | wols | gribouille: you'd need to create a (local) repository |
| 18:02.12 | salvin | same in X log |
| 18:02.23 | salvin | the game kills x |
| 18:02.24 | gribouille | wols, what will it contain ? |
| 18:02.25 | salvin | stop |
| 18:02.34 | wols | gribouille: your package |
| 18:02.35 | salvin | no logs no errors |
| 18:02.44 | gribouille | wols, how can I do that ? |
| 18:02.56 | vsayikiran | abrotman: ok it will improve just give me time |
| 18:03.17 | abrotman | vsayikiran: it may .. but it might be easier for you to get help in your native language |
| 18:03.24 | abrotman | salvin: which video card and which driver? |
| 18:03.35 | vsayikiran | grub: tell me the name of your laptop model |
| 18:03.44 | salvin | nvidia geforce2 go |
| 18:03.50 | grub | vsayikiran, latitude d520? |
| 18:03.56 | salvin | ndivia-drivers: 96xx |
| 18:04.10 | abrotman | salvin: do they even work with that card? |
| 18:04.13 | salvin | 9639 |
| 18:04.20 | gribouille | wols, how can I create a local repository ? |
| 18:04.22 | salvin | yes |
| 18:04.29 | wols | abrotman: yes. they are legacy drivers for these old cards |
| 18:04.35 | vsayikiran | abrotman: my english is not that bad that people here cant understand |
| 18:04.46 | abrotman | care to wager on that? |
| 18:04.51 | abrotman | wols: 96xx is ? |
| 18:04.54 | vsayikiran | grub: is it N series laptop |
| 18:05.00 | grub | vsayikiran, yes |
| 18:05.05 | salvin | abrotman, <salvin> 9639 |
| 18:05.11 | abrotman | salvin: i saw that |
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| 18:05.14 | wols | salvin: what debian version is this? |
| 18:05.20 | salvin | lenny |
| 18:05.34 | salvin | upgraded |
| 18:05.56 | wols | doesn't look like nvidia drivers from debian, does it? |
| 18:06.06 | gribouille | wols, how can I create a local repository ? |
| 18:06.08 | salvin | the upgrade has broken these games |
| 18:06.15 | abrotman | !tell gribouille about repository |
| 18:06.35 | vsayikiran | grub: so you are having ir port, just restart your system and enter BIOS settings, then you will see fast ir option, i am sure it should be there |
| 18:06.37 | salvin | wols, i installed it manually |
| 18:06.49 | salvin | from binary package |
| 18:06.59 | gribouille | abrotman, ok, thanks |
| 18:07.01 | wols | salvin: good for you.ask nvidia about your problems then |
| 18:07.12 | grub | vsayikiran, hmm, not sure if i saw that, will check. |
| 18:07.14 | Alvo | dutchfish: yes, console-tools is insalled |
| 18:07.25 | salvin | wols, but isn't a nvidia problem |
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| 18:07.35 | wols | salvin: it certainly is no debian one |
| 18:07.38 | dutchfish | Alvo, you can use them to fix keyboard problem |
| 18:07.40 | Alvo | dutchfish: 'pos1' and 'end' is working in editors, but not in bash |
| 18:07.47 | vsayikiran | grub; my latitude d520 detected sony ericson mobiles ir port, just once , at that time i was using windows |
| 18:07.52 | wols | salvin: you use their software and it breaks: their problem |
| 18:08.33 | salvin | the game package is break |
| 18:08.46 | salvin | the video card works correctly |
| 18:08.47 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: ok i started like that, started GParted, the disk drive is present as /dev/sda and when i want to partition it, it asks me to set the label, then it says "Error while setting new disklabel" :( |
| 18:08.49 | grub | vsayikiran, it worked with win? |
| 18:08.59 | wols | salvin: does glxinfo work? |
| 18:09.07 | salvin | sure |
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| 18:09.17 | wols | salvin: pastebin its output then please |
| 18:09.22 | grub | vsayikiran, i use bluetooth for my phone instead, so didnt have a need for ir yet |
| 18:09.31 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, you use gparted as livecd or debian install cd? |
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| 18:09.55 | salvin | lol |
| 18:10.08 | salvin | is a video card problem :D |
| 18:10.11 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: livecd |
| 18:10.14 | vsayikiran | grub: i too use bluetooth, since i have ir port i want to test and see if its working |
| 18:10.22 | wols | salvin: good. then ask nvidia |
| 18:10.27 | salvin | ok |
| 18:10.38 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, save yourself alot of trouble and download a net-install iso from the offcial debian |
| 18:10.48 | vsayikiran | grub: did your ir port worked in windows? |
| 18:11.03 | wols | salvin: hint: using nvidia binary installers have a high probability of breaking your debian as you just sa |
| 18:11.06 | wols | saw |
| 18:11.41 | salvin | wols, but in lenny there's only nvidia-legacy-driver |
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| 18:12.23 | grub | vsayikiran, nope, never used ir on this laptop |
| 18:12.25 | wols | a) you need the legacy driver b) people who insist on running testing are supposed to be able to backport sid packages if they need to |
| 18:12.45 | black_13 | what would happen if you disabled all the consoles in /etc/inittab |
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| 18:12.57 | wols | black_13: no more consoles |
| 18:13.13 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 18:13.18 | salvin | wols, ok |
| 18:13.19 | salvin | tnx |
| 18:13.20 | black_13 | wols would this be "quiet" |
| 18:13.31 | wols | consoles make noises? |
| 18:14.00 | alessio- | when install debian testing: Some form of the kernel has not been found. Probably this is due to a difference among the kernel used by this version and that available |
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| 18:14.16 | black_13 | wols, all the time |
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| 18:14.31 | dutchfish | wols, thats possible but unlikely, only if you use rtty devices from my museum ;) |
| 18:14.34 | tralala | well, you'll shut them all up this way |
| 18:14.38 | wols | alessio-: either you tell us the exact error or helping you will be kinda impossible |
| 18:14.47 | alessio- | download from: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 18:15.12 | wols | black_13: then I'd get a new computer. either it's like dutchfish said or you have broken hardware |
| 18:15.26 | black_13 | funny |
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| 18:15.51 | black_13 | no i am want a way disable bootmessages from syslinux to xorg |
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| 18:16.17 | vsayikiran | please anyone who using dell latitude d520 please rely |
| 18:16.20 | wols | how can syslinux show bootmessages in xorg? |
| 18:16.28 | wols | when syslinux runs and xorg runs is mutually exclusive |
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| 18:16.38 | salvin | wols, uff |
| 18:16.42 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, at my work i sometimes do |
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| 18:16.51 | salvin | there's only for 2.6.18 |
| 18:16.56 | wols | vsayikiran: don't take polls please |
| 18:17.08 | salvin | i have 2.6.22 |
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| 18:17.26 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: do you how to use fast ir port |
| 18:17.31 | wols | salvin: debian comes with nvidia-legacy-kernel-src or similar... |
| 18:17.52 | JeffH | if I want to use my isp's (comcast's) dns what do I need in my /etc.resolv.conf? |
| 18:17.53 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, no i use bluetooth or wlan, easy to setup in gnome and others |
| 18:18.09 | abrotman | JeffH: server <ip> |
| 18:18.13 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i have already installed irda-utils but not able to connect to cell phones ir port |
| 18:18.14 | wols | JeffH: enter the nameserevr ip in resolv.conf |
| 18:18.22 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 18:18.28 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, what kind off cell-phone? |
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| 18:18.32 | abrotman | JeffH: erm .. nameserver <ip> .. one per line |
| 18:18.38 | wols | abrotman: not "server", but nameserver |
| 18:18.44 | abrotman | yeah .. i got it :) |
| 18:18.44 | wols | damn. too late :) |
| 18:18.44 | vsayikiran | dutchfiles: so can you help me to troubleshoot |
| 18:18.51 | JeffH | right now I see 'search hsd1.co.comcast.net' in the resolv.conf.. do I keep that? |
| 18:18.52 | abrotman | dutchfiles ? |
| 18:19.00 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, i can try |
| 18:19.02 | Daveman | :P |
| 18:19.05 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, what kind off cell-phone? |
| 18:19.05 | abrotman | JeffH: you don't have to .. but leaving it there won't hurt anything |
| 18:19.08 | wols | JeffH: not important |
| 18:19.18 | black_13 | wols what i meant was i dont want to see anything but bootsplash and xorg |
| 18:19.27 | abrotman | JeffH: and every time you connect to comcast .. it'll get put back in |
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| 18:19.58 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: sony ericsson w300i |
| 18:19.58 | vsayikiran | dutchfile: sony ericsson w300i |
| 18:19.59 | wols | abrotman: if it does, why wouldn't it set the nameserver too? |
| 18:20.16 | abrotman | wols: FIIK .. i assume it did |
| 18:20.38 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, maybe this helps: http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/hcpcpi.html |
| 18:20.41 | wols | !fiik |
| 18:20.41 | dpkg | i heard fiik is Fuck If I Know |
| 18:20.46 | wols | ah |
| 18:20.48 | abrotman | heh |
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| 18:21.05 | jelly-home | dpkg, fiik =~ s/ck/cked/ |
| 18:21.05 | dpkg | jelly-home: OK |
| 18:21.07 | jelly-home | :-D |
| 18:21.09 | salvin | wols, there isn't |
| 18:21.11 | JeffH | thanks.. now I just gotta figure out what the ip is for comcast's dns servers. |
| 18:21.21 | abrotman | jelly-home: uhm .. it's wrong now |
| 18:21.31 | wols | salvin: but there is in sid |
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| 18:22.18 | jelly-home | abrotman: more precisely, it's a source of amusement of questionable value now |
| 18:22.27 | salvin | must i upgrade for install nvidia module? |
| 18:22.36 | abrotman | see .. nvidia sucks :) |
| 18:22.45 | salvin | grrr |
| 18:22.51 | wols | salvin: your question makes no sense |
| 18:22.59 | salvin | ? |
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| 18:23.11 | Alvo | nvidia is a bit better than ati, isnt it |
| 18:23.12 | salvin | wols, i don't understand |
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| 18:23.26 | wols | we don't either cause it makes no sense |
| 18:23.33 | claude_quebec | Hello. I currently run GNU/Debian Linux on a Pentium II 300Mhz 128Mbytes computer. Is an old computer like that can be upgraded with GNU/Debian Linux V4? |
| 18:23.53 | wols | claude_quebec: yes. however, you might not want to run gnome or kde |
| 18:24.09 | abrotman | claude_quebec: i have slower running etch |
| 18:24.22 | dutchfish | !tell salvin about ask |
| 18:24.26 | Alvo | 128 mb ram is a bit low to run certain services, like p2p software |
| 18:24.30 | abrotman | salvin: you don't have to upgrade to unstable .. but it'll take some work |
| 18:25.10 | jelly-home | abrotman: but now it matches the older british "buggered if I know" |
| 18:25.11 | abrotman | jelly-home: yeah .. but brits are dumb :) |
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| 18:25.11 | jelly-home | abrotman: not dumb, but a bit anal. |
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| 18:25.12 | abrotman | jelly-home: and AFAIK .. it's not some brits say a lot |
| 18:25.26 | abrotman | something |
| 18:25.37 | salvin | abrotman, unstable works better than lenny :D |
| 18:25.47 | abrotman | salvin: today it might .. tomorrow it might not |
| 18:25.57 | vsayikiran | /info abrotman |
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| 18:26.03 | abrotman | vsayikiran: do you need something ? |
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| 18:26.13 | claude_quebec | wols: Interresting. I am thinking that Debian is really good at running on old computer. Much better than Fedora, or other. |
| 18:26.19 | vsayikiran | abrotman: i wanted your info |
| 18:26.24 | abrotman | vsayikiran: ask me |
| 18:26.46 | g0rd0n | when runnning fdisk, i get "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)" but when i write the partition table, the problem doesnt get fixed... |
| 18:26.50 | abrotman | vsayikiran: but perhaps you should be reading IRDA documentation instead of fucking around on IRC |
| 18:27.13 | abrotman | !irda is also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/ |
| 18:27.13 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 18:27.15 | vsayikiran | abrotman: from where i will get doc |
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| 18:27.32 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, was your partition table really empty on start? |
| 18:27.34 | jelly-home | g0rd0n: are you trying to partition a hard disk that's currently in use? kernel can't update the partition table in that case, you'd need to reboot to see the changes |
| 18:28.06 | vsayikiran | abrotman: see man this is specific to my laptops hardware , i have googled a lot but didnt get any proper help |
| 18:28.17 | salvin | abrotman, but if i compile nvidia legacy driver from binary package? |
| 18:28.20 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 18:28.20 | dpkg | laptop is, like, All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 18:28.20 | salvin | it works? |
| 18:28.32 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, maybe this helps: http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/hcpcpi.html |
| 18:28.39 | abrotman | salvin: dunno .. i don't buy nvidia stuff .. wols seems to think it might |
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| 18:28.53 | jelly-home | !thinkpad |
| 18:28.53 | dpkg | hmm... thinkpad is one of the best laptops you can buy, the problems only occur with very old versions, or http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/, or a thing that dies when your car hits it, according to abrotman. http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki, or some may also restrict Mini PCI card usage, see http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/thinkpad/wireless.html, or <mwavem> |
| 18:29.03 | g0rd0n | jelly: the disk is completelly blank, just been low formatted |
| 18:29.10 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: yes |
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| 18:29.32 | g0rd0n | when trying to write the partitoin table, i just got "Buffer I/O Error on device sda, logical block 0" |
| 18:29.33 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i saw that , it is about multisync and all that, i just want to tranfer files from mobile phone |
| 18:29.54 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, does your scsii bios in your scsii controller needs a small aprtition on disk? |
| 18:29.59 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: you told you will help me to troubleshoot |
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| 18:30.10 | tralala | abrotman, don't tell me you're a laptop car hitman! |
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| 18:30.28 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, did you try it specially the section on irda? |
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| 18:30.47 | jelly-home | g0rd0n: ew. is that a sata disk or a real scsi device? |
| 18:30.47 | abrotman | tralala: that's out of context :) |
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| 18:31.18 | tralala | abrotman, ha! I don't want you anywhere near my precious little thinkpad! |
| 18:31.21 | g0rd0n | jelly: its really scsi, its an ultra scasi on an adaptec controller |
| 18:31.29 | abrotman | tralala: i have one of my own |
| 18:31.38 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: i low formatted the drive using the adaptec bios utility, so i guess it doesnt need any |
| 18:31.51 | tralala | abrotman, one alledgedlly hit by a car? |
| 18:31.53 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, did you initialize? |
| 18:32.00 | abrotman | tralala: no ... |
| 18:32.06 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: no, how do i do that |
| 18:32.17 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, look at your cards manual |
| 18:32.34 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, its not in my head anaymore (to long ago) |
| 18:32.44 | black_13 | abrotman, what would happen if commented out all the getty sections in /etc/inittab? |
| 18:32.56 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: ok i have the mobo manual here, it' an historical asus p2b-s :) |
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| 18:33.10 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, the manuals are still on the web |
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| 18:33.47 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i ran irdadump command, but it does not show any output |
| 18:34.00 | abrotman | black_13: you were already told |
| 18:34.07 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, you have to config irda accordingly |
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| 18:34.13 | black_13 | im sorry ill back read |
| 18:34.57 | tralala | abrotman, which thinkpad? |
| 18:35.02 | tralala | I mean model |
| 18:35.03 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: thats i am asking your help, i dont know what to config, i need help from bottom level |
| 18:35.06 | abrotman | tralala: G40 |
| 18:35.26 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, what does ifconfig tells you? |
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| 18:35.34 | tralala | G... never seen this line |
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| 18:36.20 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: it displays info about lan, wireless and loopback interface |
| 18:36.20 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: shit, looks like i need an adaptec floppy disc.... |
| 18:36.43 | tralala | a desktop replacement segment? |
| 18:37.00 | abrotman | tralala: yeah .. line is gone now |
| 18:37.02 | JeffH_ | anyone here use postfix and maildrop? Do you have any problems with mail delivery to an aliased user? I keep getting 'maildrop: Home directory own by wrong user.' |
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| 18:37.17 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, no ir? |
| 18:37.33 | jelly-home | abrotman: the widescreen Z series was shortlived too |
| 18:37.33 | tralala | eh, I hate desktop replacements |
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| 18:37.52 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: so you say that ir is disabled |
| 18:37.55 | JeffH_ | what's wrong with desktop replacments? |
| 18:37.58 | abrotman | jelly-home: the G40 is 3-4 years old .. |
| 18:38.11 | abrotman | tralala: i like mine .. it's not really mobile .. so the weight doesn't bother me |
| 18:38.19 | jelly-home | abrotman: yeah, I can guess by the number. |
| 18:38.20 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, could be and you need libmultisync-plugin-evolution installed later on to sync the adress book |
| 18:38.48 | JeffH_ | I like mine too. The furthest I've taken it so far is from my living room to my bedroom. haha |
| 18:38.53 | tralala | JeffH_, they're incovinient on the desk and not portable |
| 18:38.58 | g0rd0n | dutchfish: ähm... what address book :) |
| 18:39.00 | abrotman | tralala: oh bullshit |
| 18:39.10 | JeffH_ | mine is plenty portable. |
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| 18:39.13 | dutchfish | g0rd0n, oops that was for vsayikiran |
| 18:39.21 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, , could be and you need libmultisync-plugin-evolution installed later on to sync the adress book |
| 18:39.30 | tralala | abrotman, well, I'm allowed to have an opinion |
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| 18:39.45 | jelly-home | tralala: NO. |
| 18:39.46 | abrotman | tralala: mine weighs about 8lbs .. a standard latop weighs about 6lbs or so .. |
| 18:40.04 | abrotman | tralala: you can have an opinion .. but it's wrong :) |
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| 18:40.35 | ana` | abrotman: hello from tarzeau! |
| 18:40.40 | abrotman | hi |
| 18:40.41 | ana` | !popcon |
| 18:40.41 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:40.47 | ana` | abrotman: what's up? |
| 18:40.50 | vsayikiran | dutchfile: so you are asking me to install that package |
| 18:40.52 | abrotman | nothing? |
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| 18:41.07 | tralala | abrotman, at least you have the excuse that it's a thinkpad :) |
| 18:41.22 | alessio- | update etch to lenny, but X don't starts. When i type startx => XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 18:41.23 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, if you have gnome desktop and evolution, yes you can do that |
| 18:41.25 | jelly-home | tralala: hey, wanna buy a thinkpad. only 6lb :-) |
| 18:41.30 | alessio- | what i need/can do? |
| 18:41.37 | abrotman | tralala: i like it .. everything except the modem is 100% linux compatible without firmware |
| 18:41.47 | tralala | jelly-home, heh, I already own a 3.5lb thinkpad ;) |
| 18:41.55 | jelly-home | tralala: rats! |
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| 18:42.06 | jelly-home | tralala: mine is bigger! |
| 18:42.40 | tralala | jelly-home, don't worry too much - you'll get a better one ;P |
| 18:42.57 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: after running apt-get command it suggests to install libmultisync-plugin-irmc , is this required ? |
| 18:43.09 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, yup |
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| 18:43.19 | tralala | abrotman, yeah, thinkpads are pretty well supported |
| 18:43.22 | alessio- | so? |
| 18:43.33 | JeffH_ | my desktop replacement is 6.8lbs.. |
| 18:43.48 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: how to install that package |
| 18:44.06 | h3sp4wn | Does anyone know about hot docking and undocking (if its possible on the thinkpad X31) |
| 18:44.12 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, apt-get install libmultisync-plugin-irmc ? |
| 18:44.15 | tralala | JeffH_, I hope it's a thinkpad at least |
| 18:44.30 | jelly-home | h3sp4wn: thinkwiki is probably your friend |
| 18:44.34 | tralala | h3sp4wn, it is - check out thinkwiki |
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| 18:45.05 | JeffH_ | tralala: nope, Mac Book Pro |
| 18:45.08 | tralala | thinkwiki is probably 50% of the thinkpads value |
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| 18:45.38 | Drk_Guy | Hi |
| 18:45.38 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: please tell me did you ever try using fast ir port in dell latitude model |
| 18:45.47 | alessio- | update etch to lenny, but X don't starts. When i type startx => XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 18:45.52 | Drk_Guy | I have a little problem |
| 18:46.06 | Drk_Guy | How can i add myself to the sudoers file? |
| 18:46.10 | jelly-home | alessio-: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:46.15 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, as i told you i odnt use irda anymore i use blutooth and wlan (faster and easier) |
| 18:46.20 | Drk_Guy | I really don't know how i did it the last time |
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| 18:46.23 | alessio- | jelly-home ok mom |
| 18:46.32 | abrotman | Drk_Guy: visudo ? |
| 18:46.38 | Drk_Guy | visudo... |
| 18:46.45 | Drk_Guy | But su... |
| 18:46.52 | Drk_Guy | how can i authenticate? |
| 18:46.57 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: yup i know that, still in past did you used it? |
| 18:47.14 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, a few times along with eveloution |
| 18:47.27 | babilen | hi all... how can i produce dvi files from a tex file? "latex" is a symlink to "pdftex" |
| 18:47.43 | alessio- | jelly-home - Xorg.0.log > http://rafb.net/p/0fHPRU13.html |
| 18:47.48 | babilen | am not sure, how i can force the creation of dvi files... |
| 18:48.07 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, that worked on my old ericson siemens S65 |
| 18:48.09 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i am asking because i am not able to understand why evolution is required? |
| 18:48.15 | Speckal | how do I clear the cache that apt-get uses? |
| 18:48.24 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, to sync the adressbook |
| 18:48.26 | Drk_Guy | Gotacha |
| 18:48.35 | Drk_Guy | su --login root -c visudo |
| 18:48.36 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: you told that you are using dell latitude |
| 18:48.37 | Drk_Guy | =) |
| 18:48.45 | alessio- | jelly-home and Xorg.conf > http://rafb.net/p/3aEDAr64.html |
| 18:48.47 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, on my work yes |
| 18:48.50 | jelly-home | alessio-: get rid of Option "UseFBDev" "true" and try again |
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| 18:49.21 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, but not much |
| 18:49.37 | alessio- | jelly-home so, #Option"Emulate3Buttons""true" |
| 18:49.39 | alessio- | ? |
| 18:49.47 | vsayikiran | duthcfish: ok then, i dont know much about sync, i am new to it, but will i able to transfer photos, music etc? |
| 18:49.59 | jelly-home | alessio-: if you're asking is that the way to comment an option, yes |
| 18:50.03 | Drk_Guy | I did it all by myself |
| 18:50.05 | Drk_Guy | Thanks |
| 18:50.27 | alessio- | jelly-home, nop, what i need do? i need comment Option"UseFBDev""true" |
| 18:50.49 | gribouille | wols, I have set up a repository, but it still doesn't work |
| 18:50.51 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i have installed that package then what to do? |
| 18:50.52 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, i dont know ... but most phones have now mem-cards wich i stick in my computer directly to store/retrieve such files or use wlan/bluetooth |
| 18:50.55 | jelly-home | alessio-: you were right, put an # at the begging of line |
| 18:51.10 | jelly-home | beginning, even |
| 18:51.12 | alessio- | jelly-home ok thaks |
| 18:51.17 | alessio- | *thanks |
| 18:51.28 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, is irda module loaded? |
| 18:52.21 | limpio | Speckal, # apt-get clean |
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| 18:53.33 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i enabled from BIOS setting |
| 18:53.39 | jelly-home | !ir |
| 18:53.39 | dpkg | from memory, ir is InfraRed |
| 18:53.43 | Speckal | !simple sid backport |
| 18:53.43 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
| 18:53.46 | jelly-home | dpkg: thanks, you're very useful :-P |
| 18:53.47 | dpkg | de nada, jelly-home |
| 18:53.47 | Speckal | is that outdated? |
| 18:54.10 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i executed /etc/init.d/irda-utils start |
| 18:54.21 | abrotman | Speckal: why? |
| 18:54.24 | Speckal | the apt-get build-dep nspluginwrapper line gives me E: Build-Depends dependency for nspluginwrapper cannot be satisfied because the package gcc-multilib cannot be found |
| 18:54.30 | h3sp4wn | jelly-home: / tralala : crazy all I had to do was load dock and dock modules and it just works fine |
| 18:54.36 | abrotman | Speckal: which version of debian ? |
| 18:54.39 | h3sp4wn | dock and bay soryr |
| 18:54.40 | Speckal | etch amd64 |
| 18:54.55 | abrotman | i didn't realize nspluginwrapper was in etch |
| 18:55.05 | jelly-home | h3sp4wn: sounds like you have a compliant acpi bios, lucky guy! |
| 18:55.11 | Speckal | it's not. that's why I'm following the backporting instructions |
| 18:55.30 | JeffH_ | Anyone know what user courier-Maildrop runs as? |
| 18:55.32 | abrotman | Speckal: right .. you're backporting from sid .. not all packages in sid are installable all the time |
| 18:55.51 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, ifconfig ? |
| 18:56.10 | abrotman | Speckal: but gcc-multilib is in sid |
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| 18:56.17 | abrotman | !info gcc-multilib sid |
| 18:56.19 | dpkg | gcc-multilib: (The GNU C compiler (multilib files)), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.2.1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 0 kB |
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| 18:56.44 | jelly-home | Speckal: well, you can still do the "apt-get source xxx" bit, install other dependencies manually and try building |
| 18:56.45 | Speckal | abrotman: apt-get build-dep gcc-multilib in turn gives me E: Build-Depends dependency for gcc-multilib cannot be satisfied because the package gcj-4.2-base cannot be found |
| 18:56.49 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: same as before, no change in output |
| 18:56.52 | tralala | jelly-home, even really old thinkpads are (declared) acpi compliant |
| 18:57.00 | tralala | like my 600e |
| 18:57.06 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, hold on maybe i can check out on remote dell laptop |
| 18:57.10 | abrotman | Speckal: paste your sources somehwere |
| 18:57.17 | abrotman | tralala: mine isn't |
| 18:57.18 | jelly-home | tralala: well, I consider X31 to be old too :-) |
| 18:57.20 | abrotman | acpi sucks |
| 18:57.26 | abrotman | !kill acpi |
| 18:57.39 | vsayikiran | dutchfile: please tell the model of your laptop |
| 18:57.39 | tralala | jelly-home, 600e is 1999 |
| 18:57.44 | abrotman | not good enough |
| 18:57.48 | abrotman | !alicekill acpi |
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| 18:57.53 | Speckal | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/752781 |
| 18:58.04 | tralala | hehe |
| 18:58.19 | jelly-home | wtf is alice |
| 18:58.22 | tralala | jelly-home, and my X30 is acpi compliant! |
| 18:58.40 | abrotman | jelly-home: Arlo Guthrie song .. Alice's Restaurant .. |
| 18:59.10 | jelly-home | tralala: yeah, that one. whatever, my Z60m is a bit broken so I reserve the rights to whine |
| 18:59.12 | SpeedyG | Hi, in my /var/log/messages logs, I regularly get a ' -- MARK -- ' message, whats that for ? |
| 18:59.24 | xingu | alice? who the f' is alice? |
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| 18:59.40 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | hi - can anybody recommend a good media player to use on my xebian install on my xbox (i intend to have it run on startup, and list all files/directories on an nfs share) |
| 18:59.53 | abrotman | xingu: it's a song! |
| 18:59.56 | tralala | jelly-home, woosy |
| 19:00.04 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog_: no .. this channel is for Dbian |
| 19:00.06 | abrotman | debian |
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| 19:00.11 | tralala | abrotman, who the f' is alice is a song too |
| 19:00.19 | Speckal | abrotman: does the order matter? |
| 19:00.23 | abrotman | Speckal: nope |
| 19:00.33 | Speckal | no problem with my sources then? |
| 19:00.41 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | abrotman: xebian is debian, installed by copying files rather than the installer, and with a couple of extra apps |
| 19:00.47 | abrotman | no it's not |
| 19:01.02 | jelly-home | whine whine whine pciehp doesn't work nag nag pciehp: Cannot get control of hotplug hardware for pci 0000:00:1c.0 bitch nag |
| 19:01.07 | abrotman | Speckal: so apt-get build-dep nspluginwrapper freaks out and dies ? |
| 19:01.14 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | abrotman: in what way is it not? |
| 19:01.15 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: do i have to restart my laptop |
| 19:01.22 | Speckal | abrotman: yes, with the error I pasted |
| 19:01.25 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog_: if it were debian . it'd be called Debian |
| 19:01.44 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, you can try |
| 19:01.54 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | abrotman: i'm asking about packages that are in the debian repositories - not for help debugging some strange error o |
| 19:01.57 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | *error |
| 19:02.05 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | therefore, for all intents and purposes, its debian |
| 19:02.09 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | infact, i'll lie: |
| 19:02.18 | jelly-home | Super_Cat_Frog_: media = video, audio or both? |
| 19:02.21 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog_: we don't support debian-based distros here |
| 19:02.23 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, you are out of luck, my dell laptop is lenny irda-utils is not in yet at least not with a correct gpg key, sorry |
| 19:02.25 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: you didnt tell me which model you are using |
| 19:02.27 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | hi can anybody recommend a good media player to use on my Debian install (I intend to have it run on startup, and list all files/directories on an nfs share) |
| 19:02.34 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | jelly-home: video |
| 19:02.34 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, D520 |
| 19:02.44 | abrotman | Speckal: you ran the apt-get update . right |
| 19:02.45 | abrotman | ? |
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| 19:03.05 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: then that should work in etch also |
| 19:03.07 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | abrotman: i appreciate that, but i'm only asking about recommendations for a package from the debian repo's |
| 19:03.15 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog_: packages.debian.org |
| 19:03.19 | jelly-home | Super_Cat_Frog_: if you were running debian, I'd say either vlc or xine from debian, or mplayer from debian-multimedia repo |
| 19:03.27 | dutchfish | abrotman, lenny got new gpg keys in repos? |
| 19:03.34 | abrotman | who what? |
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| 19:03.54 | jelly-home | abrotman: third base! |
| 19:03.54 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | jelly-home: none of those packages do what i want (they dont list a directory) |
| 19:03.56 | Speckal | abrotman: yep |
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| 19:04.10 | linux2 | anyone know how I can install beryl on debian unstable? |
| 19:04.11 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | jelly-home: what i want is like kaffeine's playlist mode, but there's no commandline option for that |
| 19:04.17 | linux2 | I cannot seem to find a repostitory anywehre |
| 19:04.19 | abrotman | linux2: beryl is dead upstream |
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| 19:04.32 | linux2 | is there a new 3d desktop manager? |
| 19:04.36 | abrotman | use compiz |
| 19:05.14 | jelly-home | Super_Cat_Frog_: hm. kaffeine might have useful dcop bindings |
| 19:05.26 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | jelly-home: maybe, i'll have to look into that |
| 19:05.30 | Super_Cat_Frog_ | jelly-home: thanks |
| 19:06.16 | linux2 | abrotman: has compiz replaced beryl? |
| 19:06.17 | dutchfish | strange, in lenny i got cant authenticate the folowing packages: setserial irda-utils |
| 19:06.33 | abrotman | linux2: they merged .. compiz-fusion |
| 19:06.45 | abrotman | dutchfish: apt-cache policy irda-utils |
| 19:07.11 | jelly-home | Super_Cat_Frog_: you can use "kdcop" to browse. I don't know much about dcop though, just enought to make amarok play a file from command line (which can be done with amarok command line anyway, but...) |
| 19:07.25 | dutchfish | abrotman, no instalable candidates (translated) |
| 19:07.28 | abrotman | Speckal: and if you do apt-get build-dep gcj4.2-base .. it complains about something else ? |
| 19:07.39 | abrotman | dutchfish: so where is it getting htem from ? |
| 19:07.52 | dutchfish | abrotman, candidate 0.9.18-6 (irda-utils) |
| 19:07.58 | Speckal | abrotman: yep. eventually I get to this: http://pastebin.ca/752795 |
| 19:08.26 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/gcc-4.2-multilib |
| 19:08.29 | abrotman | says it's there |
| 19:08.37 | abrotman | dutchfish: paste it |
| 19:08.44 | h3sp4wn | Speckal: Are you trying to backport all that just to build nspluginwrapper ? |
| 19:08.51 | abrotman | h3sp4wn: build nsplugin |
| 19:08.54 | Speckal | h3sp4wn: got a better way? |
| 19:09.02 | dutchfish | abrotman, http://debian.essentkabel.com lenny/main |
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| 19:09.12 | abrotman | dutchfish: i meant the output of the apt-cache policy :) |
| 19:09.12 | linux2 | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:09.24 | abrotman | dutchfish: but that's where it's trying ot pull from ? |
| 19:09.33 | abrotman | dutchfish: maybe the key on the server is out of whack |
| 19:09.44 | dutchfish | abrotman, yup it is |
| 19:09.53 | abrotman | you can use another server if you want |
| 19:09.54 | Speckal | back in a bit. thanks for the help thus far :) |
| 19:09.57 | SpeedyG | hehe, if it isnt essent that screws up ; |
| 19:09.59 | SpeedyG | ;) |
| 19:10.29 | dutchfish | SpeedyG, never had this on there repos in 4 years |
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| 19:11.45 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, you are out of luck, tomorrow same time i have it checked, sorry |
| 19:12.12 | SpeedyG | dutchfish: I didnt exactly mean their repos ;) just the company :P essentkabel.com as ISP sucks donkeyballs :p |
| 19:12.33 | SpeedyG | had nothing but bad experience with them |
| 19:12.48 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: oops are you going now |
| 19:12.54 | dutchfish | SpeedyG, actually it doesnt, but thats my personal opinion, why throw mud if you dont know what you are talking about? |
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| 19:13.37 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: i am using etch, if it worked for you in lenny then here it may work |
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| 19:14.00 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, ill check it for you on my work tommorrow, ill inform you |
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| 19:14.31 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: do know what setting i have to do in BIOS |
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| 19:14.47 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, fast IRDA |
| 19:15.01 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: please give ne your email id, so that i can contact you later |
| 19:15.13 | abrotman | and spam! |
| 19:15.20 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, ill on this irc channel tomorrow same time |
| 19:15.29 | abrotman | be on |
| 19:15.34 | dutchfish | i will |
| 19:15.48 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: ok |
| 19:16.38 | SpeedyG | dutchfish: I quote myself "Had nothing but bad experience with them" :P so throwing mud at the ISP is kinda like just telling you my experience with them :p |
| 19:16.50 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: in the fast IR menu there are four COM ports, i am not sure which one to select, |
| 19:17.06 | dutchfish | SpeedyG, but thi sis offtopic and has nothing to do with debian |
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| 19:17.42 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, a free one (wich is not used for serial connections) |
| 19:17.48 | SpeedyG | *sigh* nvm |
| 19:18.04 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: so these are COM2,34 |
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| 19:18.20 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, i would choose 4 |
| 19:18.53 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: me to |
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| 19:19.01 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, because 1 and 3 share same interupt most of the time |
| 19:19.39 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: findchip -l gives me the name of supported chips |
| 19:20.16 | vsayikiran | dutchfish: there is one name SMC which i remember i saw in windows also |
| 19:20.33 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, card reader |
| 19:21.10 | vsayikiran | dutchfile: no, its name of manufacturer of my irda device |
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| 19:21.41 | dutchfish | vsayikiran, dont know, could be |
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| 19:22.02 | linux2 | abrotman: ok i installed it but it doesn't work |
| 19:22.15 | abrotman | linux2: okay .. you did something wrong |
| 19:22.17 | linux2 | I just have these windows with no buttons |
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| 19:22.34 | linux2 | no I followed the documentation on the compiz website |
| 19:22.52 | linux2 | but also the compiz website only goes over gnome and I'm using KDE |
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| 19:24.17 | linux2 | abrotman: How can anyone get this to work in KDE |
| 19:24.33 | abrotman | NFC .. i don't use compiz or kde |
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| 19:26.00 | haggz | linux2: from the sound of it you need to force the window decorator to reload, no window buttons etc is very common issue youll find a lot of fixes for it in the compiz fusion forums |
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| 19:26.13 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: have you tried googling for irda, linux and your machine model? |
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| 19:26.31 | linux2 | haggz: yeah. I really hate when this happens. can you link me to anything? |
| 19:27.07 | haggz | linux2: google for compiz fusion forums and once you're in their site, search for 'no window decorations' or 'no buttons' and you'll find a ton of stuff, it comes up all the time |
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| 19:27.29 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: i tried for irda, and dell latitude, but didnt get any useful result |
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| 19:27.30 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: I've spent an hour or two and got to the point where I have the correct driver and options for it, and /etc/init.d/irda-utils start loads it, but still no "/dev/ircomm*" |
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| 19:27.52 | massctrl | hello anyone here uses xfs in a production env on debian ? |
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| 19:28.14 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: do you know any thing, btw which laptop model are you using |
| 19:28.22 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: if it's smc, the module you're looking for is probably smsc-ircc2 |
| 19:28.23 | dutchfish | massctrl, i did, but went back to ext3 |
| 19:28.41 | massctrl | dutchfish: why did you went back ? |
| 19:28.56 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: yes its smc, i saw it in winxp |
| 19:29.02 | dutchfish | massctrl, i had major file corruptions and broken fs under xen |
| 19:29.23 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: so i have to install smsc-ircc2 package |
| 19:29.41 | dutchfish | massctrl, i suspect xfs and nfs-server coop that well, at least not yet |
| 19:29.42 | linux2 | haggz: I searched it and nothing relevant came up |
| 19:29.53 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: no. that's the kernel module name and you already have it, if you use default debian kernel. |
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| 19:30.41 | dutchfish | massctrl, and this was all under Sarge/Etch |
| 19:31.00 | massctrl | dutchfish: hm i see, I was planning to use xfs because it's the only fs that offers dir tree quotas,.. |
| 19:31.07 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: this is what I used to set it up to this point: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_IrDA |
| 19:31.09 | haggz | linux2: really? ive seen about 50,000 threads along the lines of 'installed compiz, now my windows have no borders/buttons', let me see if i can find you something relevan |
| 19:31.19 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: what is your laptop model |
| 19:31.31 | dutchfish | massctrl, if you dont virtual fs you will prolly be save |
| 19:31.38 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: Thinkpad Z60m. Way different. :-) |
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| 19:31.55 | massctrl | dutchfish: what do you mean with virtual fs? |
| 19:31.58 | dutchfish | massctrl, lvm is fine |
| 19:31.59 | linux2 | sorry it died |
| 19:32.18 | dutchfish | massctrl, xen storage |
| 19:32.27 | massctrl | dutchfish: ok I'm using lvm for my xen machines |
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| 19:32.37 | massctrl | dutchfish with ext3 |
| 19:32.47 | dutchfish | massctrl, no problem with those |
| 19:33.16 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: however you can still use the generic insttructions, just with the correct driver instead of nsc_ircc mentioned there. |
| 19:33.25 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: do you want to enable fast ir port, do think the method for laptop wont work for mine |
| 19:33.30 | massctrl | dutchfish, no indeed, working fine, but I didn't realize dir tree quota's is so unknown on linux, .. |
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| 19:33.50 | dutchfish | massctrl, enlighten me :) |
| 19:33.53 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: i will give you a link try that |
| 19:34.18 | Asmooh | i wonder, if my dns is running; can i test it by connecting to ip:53 with telnet? |
| 19:34.20 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: as for your machine, try modprobing smsc-ircc2 and see what happens |
| 19:34.32 | dutchfish | Asmooh, dig |
| 19:34.37 | haggz | linux2: seriously, googling for compiz no window decorations produces an insane quantity of hits from various forums, try following some of the links, a lot of it is ubuntu forums stuff but the most relevant thing is matching up your graphics hardware to the particular fix, its not really a distro related issue have you tried #compiz-fusion? |
| 19:34.43 | massctrl | dutchfish: basically it's saying this directory and it's subdirs can contain 5gb of files,.. instead of user quota's for a complete filesystem |
| 19:34.56 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: whatever link you gave me is it specific to ibm thinkpad? |
| 19:35.02 | dutchfish | massctrl, woudl be handy, but not essential |
| 19:35.29 | Asmooh | dutchfish, and what in the selection will say if its working or not |
| 19:35.36 | dutchfish | massctrl, maybe ext4 will have that too? dont know |
| 19:35.41 | zophy | what is the intended use for the /var directory ? |
| 19:35.53 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: some of the instructions are thinkpad specific, yes. |
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| 19:36.05 | massctrl | dutchfish: I need it for my specific setup, ... |
| 19:36.08 | dutchfish | Asmooh, dig -t A [test ip] and read the query |
| 19:36.09 | massctrl | dutchfish yeah maybe |
| 19:36.21 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: this is what i did " modprobe smsc-ircc2" |
| 19:36.26 | dutchfish | massctrl, ok |
| 19:36.28 | abrotman | zophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure |
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| 19:36.54 | dutchfish | massctrl, but be carefull with xfs under xen, it would not be my choice |
| 19:36.57 | jelly-home | vsayikiran: so, did anything promising appear in dmesg? |
| 19:37.01 | vsayikiran | jelly_home: it gave an ERROR message |
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| 19:37.08 | Asmooh | dutchfish, i get "something" back, but.. |
| 19:37.28 | Asmooh | ;; Got answer: |
| 19:37.28 | Asmooh | ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 46270 |
| 19:37.36 | dutchfish | !pastebin |
| 19:37.37 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: pastebin pipe |
| 19:37.48 | Asmooh | yea, 2 lines.. |
| 19:37.56 | massctrl | dutchfish: ok but it would only be a volume that's exported to my domU which is running on ext3. So my xen guests will run on ext3 |
| 19:38.15 | dutchfish | massctrl, then you should be save for that |
| 19:38.20 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: i am reading that wiki |
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| 19:39.55 | gribouille | hi |
| 19:40.19 | Asmooh | dutchfish, http://asmooh.unet.nl/apache2-default/dns.txt .. |
| 19:40.28 | gribouille | I install packages with apt-get, but they aren't listed with apt-file. what does that mean ? |
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| 19:40.29 | dutchfish | Asmooh, try dig @[your dns servs ip] -t A [test domain] what gives that? |
| 19:40.37 | Asmooh | dutchfish, see url :) |
| 19:40.44 | Asmooh | that is what i get back |
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| 19:41.16 | Asmooh | oh |
| 19:41.22 | Asmooh | ill try the otherone |
| 19:41.26 | dutchfish | Asmooh, reversed caching disabled? isp dns down? more possible .... |
| 19:41.58 | Asmooh | dutchfish, im testing it because its mydns.. for my domainservices, and im at work to install this server |
| 19:41.59 | vsayikiran | jelly-home: there is no such /etc/modprobe.conf file in my computer |
| 19:42.10 | dutchfish | Asmooh, try dig @[your dns servs ip] -t A [test domain] what gives that? |
| 19:42.43 | dvs | vsayikiran: /etc/modprobe.d directory? |
| 19:42.46 | xingu | dutchfish: you might want to refine his test-condition; SERVFAIL is a response code that can't generate itself, the application clearly generated this; so it is running, but whether or not it is doing what Asmooh wants doing, is another fish entirely. |
| 19:43.03 | vsayikiran | dvs: yes its there |
| 19:43.18 | dutchfish | xingu, ok, you are the expert here , help me out ;) |
| 19:43.38 | xingu | Asmooh: yes, your dns is working (SERVFAIL generated by it); what do you need it to do? |
| 19:44.05 | Asmooh | ok ill explain, for my work i need to install an server, we are using mydns. i set an rr from domain to IP; and i want to test if its working |
| 19:44.06 | Asmooh | :) |
| 19:44.39 | xingu | Asmooh: ok, so you need to dig @ip.ad.dr.es yourdomain.tld -t soa |
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| 19:44.58 | xingu | Asmooh: if that answers, you are serving for yourdomain.tld |
| 19:45.11 | xingu | Asmooh: it is customary to also have rr-data for yourdomain.tld -t ns |
| 19:45.38 | gribouille | I install packages with apt-get, but they aren't listed with apt-file. what does that mean ? |
| 19:45.40 | xingu | Asmooh: and finally, you'll of course want somename.yourdomain.tld -t a |
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| 19:46.23 | Asmooh | xingu, yea.. well the problem is; i dont know my home provider is blocking DNS lookup to my IP; so maybe i cant test it from and to my home connection |
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| 19:47.26 | xingu | Asmooh: that's entirely possible - but solve the problem by parts, test that the above pre-conditions are met, first. |
| 19:47.52 | Asmooh | well the first was, no servers could be reached |
| 19:48.15 | xingu | Asmooh: ip.ad.dr.es is of course the address of your nameserver; which from the previous dig I take to be 192.168.1.1 |
| 19:48.26 | Asmooh | i know :) |
| 19:48.33 | xingu | Asmooh: mydomain.tld is whatever zone you're trying to be authoritative for |
| 19:48.47 | Asmooh | ;; global options: printcmd |
| 19:48.48 | Asmooh | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 19:49.07 | Asmooh | so maybe an rr/soa issue |
| 19:49.11 | xingu | Asmooh: are you testing from something lan-local to 192.168.1.1 (or better, 192.168.1.1 itself?) |
| 19:49.15 | gribouille | does anyone know how to setup repositories ? |
| 19:49.28 | Asmooh | from 192.168.1.221 to 192.168.1.71 |
| 19:49.52 | dutchfish | gribouille, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 19:50.12 | xingu | Asmooh: in that case, 192.168.1.71 isn't answering at all; you'll need to check your mydns app logfiles, it hasn't started (or has errored and exitted) |
| 19:50.31 | xingu | Asmooh: ... "connection timed out" ... is nobody home. |
| 19:50.31 | gribouille | dutchfish, I've read this document, but it doesn't work |
| 19:50.41 | dutchfish | !doesnt work |
| 19:50.41 | dpkg | [doesnt work] Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 19:51.20 | shogunx | one can sit on a couch and still work all day. |
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| 19:51.36 | Asmooh | hm |
| 19:51.39 | Asmooh | xingu, |
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| 19:51.40 | abrotman | in fact .. shogunx is an expert in that! |
| 19:51.43 | dvs | shogunx: armchair quarterback? |
| 19:51.44 | Asmooh | whats DNS Kernel stuff? |
| 19:52.03 | Asmooh | Oct 28 20:47:46 dns -- MARK -- |
| 19:52.04 | xingu | Asmooh: ? not following. |
| 19:52.05 | shogunx | i recommend a nice long couch pulled up to an array of at least 4 monitors. |
| 19:52.07 | aFlag | hello, I'm trying to compile a program and I get "checking for main in -ldb_cxx3... no |
| 19:52.11 | aFlag | checking for main in -ldb_cxx-3.1... no |
| 19:52.11 | aFlag | configure: error: Unable to locate db_cxx library |
| 19:52.12 | Asmooh | Oct 28 20:07:46 dns kernel: lo: Disabled Privacy Extension |
| 19:52.24 | xingu | Asmooh: "dns" is your hostname; -- MARK -- is your cron daemon telling the world that it's still alive. |
| 19:52.29 | Asmooh | ah |
| 19:52.31 | aFlag | ops, irssi doesn't allow me to paste stuff with \n without printing it to irc |
| 19:52.31 | Asmooh | true |
| 19:52.47 | Asmooh | i dont have an mydns log file i see |
| 19:52.51 | aFlag | anyway, That's what I'm getting, does anyone know what package is that db_cxx library in? |
| 19:53.18 | abrotman | aFlag: you need a -dev pacakge |
| 19:53.25 | aFlag | but which one? |
| 19:54.13 | xingu | Asmooh: their manual's troubleshooting section mentions "mydnscheck" |
| 19:54.39 | Asmooh | i see |
| 19:54.40 | Asmooh | 3 errore |
| 19:54.42 | Asmooh | +S |
| 19:54.47 | aFlag | there's no db_cxx package |
| 19:54.59 | Asmooh | Last label in `soa.ns' not the root zone 1 |
| 19:55.40 | Asmooh | let me see, i have in my mysql/mydns: id origin ns mbox serial |
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| 19:56.16 | Asmooh | ID is a rowID, orgin is domainname: is would be ns.domainname.ext mbox will be postmaster.domain.ext and serial yyyymmdd |
| 19:56.19 | Asmooh | right? |
| 19:56.29 | vokuro | Hello |
| 19:57.48 | Ranpha1 | Somebody here knows tripwire? |
| 19:58.01 | xingu | Asmooh: seems about right; although I've given up with datestamped serials, personally. |
| 19:58.10 | Asmooh | oh |
| 19:58.17 | Asmooh | do u know something better? :) |
| 19:58.24 | Asmooh | unixtimedates or stuff? |
| 19:58.29 | xingu | Asmooh: autoincrement, start at 1 :) |
| 19:58.50 | Asmooh | hm |
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| 19:58.57 | Asmooh | but thats the "id" already? |
| 19:59.11 | xingu | Asmooh: no idea; I don't use mydns. :) |
| 19:59.20 | Asmooh | oh okay |
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| 19:59.34 | r00723r0 | how would i see all packages i manually installed (e.g. those that aren't dependencies or that are because of something i installed)? |
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| 19:59.37 | Asmooh | and in RR, zone must be the same as serial xingu ? |
| 19:59.51 | Asmooh | and name is first.domein.ext ? |
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| 20:00.15 | xingu | Asmooh: although, I'd assume that id would be the same id you'd then use to build the zone rr-data (ie, id would be shared between the soa relation you've described above, and, each rrdata relation) |
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| 20:00.29 | r00723r0 | anyone know? |
| 20:00.54 | Asmooh | xingu, yea thats what i thought so, and also the manual said |
| 20:00.57 | abrotman | !installed |
| 20:00.57 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 20:01.14 | Asmooh | but the 3 errors are strange :) |
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| 20:01.26 | r00723r0 | no |
| 20:01.29 | r00723r0 | that's not what i asked |
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| 20:01.44 | r00723r0 | i need to see the packages i installed, not that are installed as dependencies |
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| 20:02.39 | abrotman | r00723r0: modify the aptitude search |
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| 20:02.50 | r00723r0 | abrotman, to? |
| 20:02.58 | abrotman | man aptitude |
| 20:03.04 | abrotman | but i think just ~M |
| 20:03.22 | abrotman | maybe that's backwards |
| 20:03.35 | r00723r0 | yeah none of these i installed |
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| 20:03.45 | Ace2016 | you know how rm -rf / is the dumbest thing to do (unless you're trying to delete everything, say if its an encrypted partition and you don't want someone to find something) what is the second dumbest thing to do? do we ever really think about the second dumbest thing to do? |
| 20:03.48 | xingu | Asmooh: just working from their soa table schema, id=(unique-per-zone int), origin=mydomain.tld, ns=ns0.mydomain.tld, mbox=hostmaster.mydomain.tld, serial=(any integer), other fields = defaults |
| 20:03.53 | abrotman | Ace2016: dont' dot hat |
| 20:04.03 | abrotman | r00723r0: so man aptitude and figure out how to make it show what you want |
| 20:04.04 | Ace2016 | whats don't dot hat? |
| 20:04.09 | Asmooh | hm let me see :) |
| 20:04.16 | abrotman | put that command in the channel |
| 20:04.32 | vokuro | Hello ! I'm running debian as a server (minimum install from network install) and i install apache/php/mysql with apt-get. Everything is fine except that my server often goes slow. netstat -a shows me a lot of TIME_WAIT sockets on port 80. stopping appache does not solve the problem. I have no choice but to reboot. Any idea ? |
| 20:05.02 | Ace2016 | it just goes to the next line |
| 20:05.05 | et | actually, that one isn't dumb, as you do it on purpose if you do it |
| 20:05.09 | Asmooh | xingu, well i already had that, but: Last label in `soa.ns' not the root zone 1 - |
| 20:05.38 | Ace2016 | like a multiline entry |
| 20:06.03 | et | having a chroot with directories bind-mounted to /home etc, and then trying to delete this chroot ... |
| 20:06.06 | Ace2016 | so i mean stupid in a destructive/annoying thing |
| 20:06.08 | xingu | Asmooh: and for rr table, id=(unique-per-rr-per-zone), zone=(zone.id), name=rr, type=(ns, a), data=(ns-rrdata, a-rrdata), other fields = defaults |
| 20:06.09 | et | THAT is fun. |
| 20:06.26 | Asmooh | xingu, i already had that to :) |
| 20:06.40 | Ace2016 | na i was thinking more of chmodding everything to root so you can't write to anywhere |
| 20:06.49 | xingu | Asmooh: sounds like it has a requirement that you put root hints (ie, seed data for the "." zone -> root-servers.net) - but that's just an educated guess |
| 20:07.18 | dutchfish | vokuro, limit in the apache2 config the time for childs to wait in iddle to 0 if this is on an intranet |
| 20:07.19 | Asmooh | hmm |
| 20:07.46 | xingu | Asmooh: perhaps it'll relax that requirement if you tell it not to run in caching mode? |
| 20:08.07 | xingu | Asmooh: it's poor form anyway, to mix authoritative and caching roles on the same host |
| 20:08.12 | stiv2k | anyone here use devilspie? |
| 20:08.21 | jelly-home | Debian's kernels have serial driver (8250) built in. How to disable it, does adding 8250.nr_ports=0 work? |
| 20:08.35 | abrotman | !anyone use |
| 20:08.35 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 20:08.40 | jelly-home | stiv2k: just ask |
| 20:08.59 | Asmooh | xingu, yea the problem is i think 2 years ago i installed this also , and it worked; thats why i thought a provider problem, but if i have errors would be something else |
| 20:09.23 | vokuro | dutchfish, this is on internet. |
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| 20:09.48 | Asmooh | xingu, should i enable TCP ? |
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| 20:10.48 | stiv2k | jelly-home: ok |
| 20:10.59 | stiv2k | jelly-home: but if nobody uses devilspie it makes asking kind of pointless |
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| 20:11.37 | xingu | Asmooh: that's a good idea, yes, but I note with amusement that mydns suggest otherwise in their docs. |
| 20:11.54 | xingu | Asmooh: they suggest default off, unless required; I strongly suggest, always-on. |
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| 20:12.06 | abrotman | stiv2k: we help people with all sorts of stuff we don't use :) |
| 20:12.17 | jelly-home | stiv2k: yeah, but that's an accepted modus operandi here. If every user asked to ask first, it would generate lots of clutter. |
| 20:12.20 | xingu | Asmooh: aaaa queries can easily fill the maximum qsize supported on udp |
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| 20:12.31 | xingu | jelly-home: nr_uarts on 2.6.23 at least |
| 20:12.36 | Asmooh | xingu, yea and i just use A |
| 20:12.37 | abrotman | stiv2k: if you ask nicely .. someone might even install it :) |
| 20:12.40 | Asmooh | not ipv6 :) |
| 20:12.43 | xingu | jelly-home: and from a skim of the source, yes seems it would |
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| 20:13.03 | xingu | Asmooh: you say. :) |
| 20:13.15 | xingu | Asmooh: tell me, after this goes live, when will be a good time to rebuild it? :) |
| 20:13.18 | jelly-home | xingu: I don't go into source, just read make config bits :-) |
| 20:13.37 | Asmooh | xingu, rebuild what? :) |
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| 20:14.18 | dutchfish | vokuro, hold on looking it up now |
| 20:14.20 | xingu | Asmooh: your dns, when management decide that a few hundred million ipv6-happy vista clients all on ipv6-native transport represent a market worth having? :) |
| 20:14.37 | jimlocker | Anyone know why the obconf might refuse to run in lenny even though openbox itself is fine? Doesn't matter whether I run it with gnome or not. |
| 20:14.48 | Ace2016 | can you run pascal programs on linux or are they windows specific> |
| 20:14.50 | Ace2016 | ? |
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| 20:15.15 | Asmooh | hehe, well i dont think ipv6 is usefull at the moment, just because everyone is using ipv4 and ipv6 isnt default; maybe when providers default will give an ipv6 addr and then ipv4 as extra; its a good time to rebuild |
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| 20:15.28 | xingu | *cough* |
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| 20:15.39 | OXIj | why when i use jfs in kvm and kill VM after init and before login it wont boot again? |
| 20:15.42 | xingu | ok, you do it your way. :) |
| 20:15.43 | OXIj | only fsck helps |
| 20:15.49 | OXIj | but ext3 all ok. why? |
| 20:15.58 | jelly-home | OXIj: "jfs sucks"? |
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| 20:16.10 | xingu | "I strongly encourage all my competitors to cripple dns-over-tcp" |
| 20:16.10 | dutchfish | vokuro, set keep-alive off that would be the first try (apache2.conf) its prolly hogging too many worker threads |
| 20:16.17 | OXIj | jelly-home, hm. but it fast |
| 20:16.39 | Asmooh | xingu, and why doesnt want mydns it over tcp ? |
| 20:17.04 | Ace2016 | OXIj: tried an ext3 boot partition and then the rest as jfs? can i ask why jfs, never really seen many people talk about it, i always go for xfs as root |
| 20:17.08 | xingu | Asmooh: no idea, there's no rationale there to question |
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| 20:17.25 | phlpp | hi |
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| 20:17.37 | jimlocker | Ace2016: xfs is a little noisier... |
| 20:17.41 | Asmooh | hm xingu maybe i found one problem, my router didnt forward DNS to my server ip |
| 20:17.48 | Ace2016 | ... |
| 20:17.55 | xingu | Asmooh: performant dns on tcp and performant dns on udp are remarkably different beasts (the former requires connection pooling a'la apache2), perhaps they haven't got one yet. |
| 20:18.05 | phlpp | i added lenny sources to me sources.lst to install the game 'pioneers'. but everytime i do: apt-get install pioneers, he also wants to upgrade for instance xfwm4 |
| 20:18.06 | OXIj | Ace2016, no. ill try. dont know why jfs |
| 20:18.11 | Asmooh | hmm |
| 20:18.12 | xingu | Asmooh: that won't be stopping your server from starting and serving authoritatively though |
| 20:18.19 | phlpp | and i'm VERY sure, that xfwm ISNT a depenceny of pioneers |
| 20:18.22 | OXIj | Ace2016, i wanted to try it |
| 20:18.22 | Asmooh | no i know |
| 20:18.24 | vokuro | dutchfish, thx. I'll try that. that was my guess too. Do you know the impact on the perf ? |
| 20:18.27 | Asmooh | but u never know |
| 20:18.33 | phlpp | anyone got an idea how to fix this? |
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| 20:19.04 | dutchfish | vokuro, also use apachetop to see whats going on (bice tool for this) |
| 20:19.20 | ziyax | any1 uses clamav? |
| 20:19.35 | dutchfish | vokuro, gigantic impact |
| 20:20.20 | dutchfish | vokuro, you could also limit streams coming through apache |
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| 20:20.30 | dutchfish | vokuro, also big hoggers |
| 20:21.02 | dutchfish | vokuro, but that depends on your needs |
| 20:21.03 | xingu | Ace2016: "gpc" |
| 20:21.10 | Ace2016 | file systems are so hard to benchmark because you can never accurately simulate the degradation of performance over time without running a test for a long time where all the file systems have identical systems and then there are still the problems with no two devices being identical and bla bla bla, so i guess the best way for someone to test them would be to look at the algorithm and see what they do when (if you do then can i get a mention |
| 20:21.11 | Ace2016 | too :D ) |
| 20:21.12 | jelly-home | ziyax: I bet absolutely noone on this channel uses clamav... pretty much the only available free antivirus software. |
| 20:21.39 | xingu | Ace2016: nb, pascal without proprietry extensions is a bit like a pint of beer without a glass to put it in. |
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| 20:21.41 | Ace2016 | why would you use clamav? scan email? or winxp parititon? |
| 20:21.54 | petemc | email, commonly |
| 20:22.00 | dutchfish | jelly, i do |
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| 20:22.19 | sepski | jelly-home, ofcourse we use clamav. to protect the windows userse from emial, and scan the fileserver the windowsusers store files on |
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| 20:22.33 | ziyax | yea :P |
| 20:22.34 | vokuro | dutchfish, thank you. I'll try to have a look on apachetop to see what's going on |
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| 20:22.42 | sepski | Ace2016, scan email before delivering to windows users mailbox |
| 20:22.45 | xingu | never trust a language unless you can write its own formatted print function in it |
| 20:22.56 | ziyax | i'm trying to make attachment scanner i just updated cvd files manually now i'm getting out of date |
| 20:22.57 | ziyax | -.- |
| 20:23.12 | sepski | jelly-home, *off* |
| 20:23.24 | dutchfish | vokuro, read apachetops manpage to config it for remote view/monitoring |
| 20:23.31 | Ace2016 | sepski: do you really catch anything? do you delete the email or would you pass it on with a virus warning or a link to download the attachment with some sort of disclaimer? |
| 20:23.56 | sepski | Ace2016, yes, delete, no link, no warning. |
| 20:24.05 | jelly-home | ziyax: well, you can run /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam restart and wait for it to finish |
| 20:24.32 | Ace2016 | is it for business email or personal or both? |
| 20:24.36 | sepski | a virus tagging along on a real valid mail is 1/1000000 so it's just not worth the hassle |
| 20:24.46 | sepski | Ace2016, both |
| 20:25.07 | ziyax | ye i tried :p but i just wanted more fresh :P |
| 20:25.11 | Ace2016 | oh that seems ok |
| 20:25.14 | sepski | Ace2016, but only about 170 domains. ~2000 users perhaps ? |
| 20:25.16 | ziyax | u know ppl they make me crazy |
| 20:25.24 | jelly-home | ziyax: what is the exact message you're getting, the one about database, or the new clamav version warning? You can probably ignore the latter |
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| 20:25.39 | Spiritus55 | Where do I get the manpages for the C functions and what not? |
| 20:25.41 | jelly-home | ziyax: or use clamav from volatile |
| 20:25.48 | xingu | Spiritus55: manpages-dev |
| 20:25.51 | Ace2016 | ziyax: why cry? ignore those people |
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| 20:25.59 | Spiritus55 | xingu, they are included in there? |
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| 20:26.09 | xingu | Spiritus55: section 3, yes. |
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| 20:26.15 | Spiritus55 | xingu, ok, thanks. |
| 20:26.26 | HardDisk_WP | can I frag my PC unusable by running a unstable kernel? |
| 20:26.48 | trypticon | what is the name of the debian application which will allow me to rebuild a *.deb archinve from application which was previously installed? |
| 20:27.01 | xingu | trypticon: deborphan? |
| 20:27.04 | Ace2016 | HardDisk_WP: define unstable kernel? you mean one from sid? they are stable, you could just compile one yourself |
| 20:27.10 | abrotman | !info dpkg-repack etch |
| 20:27.13 | stiv2k | abrotman: i see |
| 20:27.13 | dpkg | dpkg-repack: (puts an unpacked .deb file back together), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.25 (etch), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 20:27.42 | stiv2k | abrotman: the problem i am having with devilspie is that its not applying the geometry i specified to windows, and they are always somehow ending up behind the desktop so i can't see them |
| 20:27.43 | HardDisk_WP | Ace2016, selfcompiled, current-git kernel |
| 20:27.56 | jelly-home | !why is hibernate not in testing |
| 20:27.56 | dpkg | hibernate is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=hibernate |
| 20:27.57 | HardDisk_WP | Ace2016, just4interest. some friend told me that 'd be possible |
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| 20:28.05 | HardDisk_WP | but i think that's insane |
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| 20:28.12 | trypticon | no xingu... I'm trying to make a deb file from an exisiting application that was previously installed by a *.deb file. |
| 20:28.12 | Ace2016 | to mess up your hardware when running a kernel from git? |
| 20:28.16 | HardDisk_WP | yay |
| 20:28.27 | stiv2k | abrotman: it works if i killall devilspie && devilspie & |
| 20:28.36 | stiv2k | but it never works when devilspie is started up upon logging in |
| 20:28.40 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: shouldn't be possible in general |
| 20:28.41 | vokuro | dutchfish, ok. Do you think that ipv6 could be the cause ? |
| 20:28.42 | trypticon | xingu: is dpkg-rebuild still around? |
| 20:28.49 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: it's possible, but not probable |
| 20:29.09 | HardDisk_WP | ah ok |
| 20:29.10 | xingu | trypticon: dpkg-repack, per abrotman's comment? |
| 20:29.18 | jelly-home | stiv2k: does the process run at all when you first log in? |
| 20:29.25 | stiv2k | jelly-home: devilspie? |
| 20:29.25 | trypticon | ah... |
| 20:29.30 | jelly-home | stiv2k: yeah |
| 20:29.33 | stiv2k | well its in my session file so it sure as hell should |
| 20:29.35 | dutchfish | vokuro, no, i odnt think so, unless you misconfigured it, apache2 works along with ipv6 out of the box |
| 20:29.36 | stiv2k | i will check |
| 20:29.47 | JeffH_ | If I know an ip is there a way to find out the domain? |
| 20:29.59 | jelly-home | stiv2k: well, it works for me in xfce on lenny. |
| 20:30.06 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: it becomes more probable, the more exotic you get, in terms of newness, or in terms of small-sized-ness of active user community, of filesystems and block device drivers |
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| 20:30.38 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, i meant something like your kernel reflashes the firmware of bios/disk/other stuff |
| 20:30.44 | dutchfish | vokuro, but dns-issues ar emore common |
| 20:30.49 | Ace2016 | i think in theory a git kernel could damange hardware but not quite sure how likely it is, say for example of an nvidia card gets overclocked or something or a flaw in the git kernel could be having the same effect on the hardware as running a stress test, so even though it does not break now it could shorten the lifespan say if cd drive does not cache and reads for prolonged time, or if a laptop's cpu is not clocked lower when overheating, |
| 20:30.49 | Ace2016 | stuff like that |
| 20:30.51 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish he i tried tripwire it's the program i want but i have one small bug that's i don't know how to solve can you help me |
| 20:30.53 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: for instance there was an interesting vm bug exposed during 2.6.19 that resulted in heavy shm users hosing the filesystems, underneath. |
| 20:30.54 | trypticon | excellent! that was just what I needed |
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| 20:31.04 | stiv2k | jelly-home: yeah it runs |
| 20:31.15 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, i am not an export on tripwire i try |
| 20:31.19 | stiv2k | jelly-home: its just that the window has the wrong geometry and it doesnt get set until i kill the process and start it again |
| 20:31.27 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: unlikely; reflashing nv memory is (uniformly?) userland, not kernel. |
| 20:31.31 | gribouille | I have created a repository. how can I tell apt to trust it ? |
| 20:31.32 | HardDisk_WP | ok |
| 20:31.48 | jelly-home | stiv2k: yeah, I've seen it sometimes miss some windows on startup. |
| 20:31.56 | stiv2k | jelly-home: is there any way around it? |
| 20:32.02 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: general policy is only volatile firmware is uploaded by drivers/ subsystems - unless - userland wants to poke to nvram. |
| 20:32.14 | HardDisk_WP | okay |
| 20:32.20 | vokuro | dutchfish, I didn't change any network parameters. For now, i access the web site by entering ip address. Apache server is behind my router. I just setup my router to forward requests on port 80 to my debian server. |
| 20:32.21 | HardDisk_WP | gribouille, /msg dpkg no public key |
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| 20:32.30 | HardDisk_WP | <dpkg> Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. |
| 20:32.31 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish well i made the database (only want to check one main directory) i put one file in it. The report sees the file and reports it. Now i want to tripwire --update. It gives a error that it can't open the twr file |
| 20:32.32 | Ace2016 | i wonder if you could modify the kernel to run a 24/7 stress test say 6 months before you warrenty runs out and leave it running for a week, then get a new system :D |
| 20:32.44 | jelly-home | stiv2k: you can try running something like sh -c 'sleep 5; devilspie &' instead |
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| 20:33.02 | stiv2k | jelly-home: i'll try it |
| 20:33.08 | dutchfish | vokuro, that would be enough |
| 20:33.12 | xingu | Ace2016: cpuburn |
| 20:33.16 | Ace2016 | i keep missing stuff out when i type, its getting annoying, i'm going to read what i say before pressing enter |
| 20:33.19 | stiv2k | also, am i using the (pin) configuration parameter wrong or somethign? cause its not showing up on all workspaces just one |
| 20:33.31 | xingu | Ace2016: combined with disabling thermal protection... |
| 20:33.32 | Ace2016 | maybe its abug in the keyboard driver, keys are just not getting through |
| 20:33.43 | Ace2016 | that'd be fun |
| 20:33.48 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, are you root and did you setup tripwire so you can do this? |
| 20:33.53 | jelly-home | stiv2k: hopefully 5 seconds will be enough for your app's window to appear before devilspie, and then it'll "see" it |
| 20:34.11 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish yeah i'm root and did the standard package install |
| 20:34.24 | stiv2k | jelly-home: should i have devilspie load before or after the app in question |
| 20:34.32 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish wait setup tripwire that i can do this.....euh no....not that can remeber |
| 20:34.34 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, no idee |
| 20:35.05 | xingu | hmm, when did tripwire become dfsg-free |
| 20:35.09 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, read its manpages, its a bit ti fidle before its configured to your needs |
| 20:35.15 | Ace2016 | but from a live cd of course, and say vista just froze and you restarted it and it kept freezing and then the screen went funny and then it won't boot, not boot up logo or anything, and tell tech support that you plugged in an external monitor and it didn't work either and that it smelled like burning afterwards |
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| 20:35.32 | jelly-home | stiv2k: after is better IME |
| 20:35.46 | Ace2016 | argh, i hate laptop keyboards, i'm going to get a usb keyboard |
| 20:35.53 | jelly-home | stiv2k: (hence the sleep) |
| 20:35.59 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish well only thing i can figure out is that the twr is encrypted....ut it can't decrypted |
| 20:36.13 | stiv2k | jelly-home: problem the gnome-session manager keeps putting devilspei above the app |
| 20:36.23 | stiv2k | sorry my typing is all sloppy lol |
| 20:36.31 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, of coarse, tripwire is resilient |
| 20:37.23 | JeffH_ | anyone know why I'd have this in my syslog? 'Oct 28 14:33:39 shelby ntpd[2605]: synchronized to 64.72.116.52, stratum 2' Seems suspicious because the IP maps to serverspy.net |
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| 20:37.30 | jelly-home | stiv2k: well, that's why I said to use the sh -c trick. I'm not sure how well it will work tho. And nevermind the typos, us humans are capable of handlinmg them |
| 20:37.34 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, maybe this helps? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/49 |
| 20:37.41 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish so i think i need to change something in the policy file? |
| 20:37.50 | xingu | JeffH_: ntpq -c peers |
| 20:37.51 | stiv2k | jelly-home: yea, it's just that if you've ever been in ##c then you'd know what i'm talking about :P |
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| 20:38.21 | ttick | I have the linux-image-2.6-686 that comes with 2.6.22-10. How do I get the header files that come with it. linux-kernel-headers is for 2.6.18 |
| 20:38.41 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish moment checking that article |
| 20:39.18 | abrotman | ttick: that'd be a linux-headers package |
| 20:39.39 | jelly-home | stiv2k: pasting error messages and command lines exactly is important, your knowledge of English less so |
| 20:40.02 | ttick | abortman: yes, but the headers package installs 2.6.18's headers. Not 2.6.22's. How do I get the updated version to match my kernel image? |
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| 20:40.16 | xingu | dutchfish: woah, !/dev (from that article) ? |
| 20:40.23 | xingu | dutchfish: holy cow. :) |
| 20:40.26 | HardDisk_WP | how do I make my kernel display a cute woman during bootup? |
| 20:40.37 | jelly-home | ttick: install the matching linux-headers-2.6.22-whatever package, too |
| 20:40.38 | abrotman | ttick: apt-cache search linux-headers |
| 20:40.53 | HardDisk_WP | so that I read ~5 lines of bootlog, but rest of screen should be covered by the img of my girlfriend |
| 20:40.56 | HardDisk_WP | is that possible= |
| 20:41.06 | dutchfish | xingu, lost you ... xplain please |
| 20:41.14 | Ace2016 | HardDisk_WP: oh you need bootsplash |
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| 20:41.18 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: a splash screen? apt-cache search splash? |
| 20:41.29 | HardDisk_WP | dunno if that is called splashscreen |
| 20:41.44 | Ace2016 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/bootsplash |
| 20:41.44 | JeffH_ | xingu: that didn't do anything except return to the prompt. |
| 20:41.57 | stiv2k | jelly-home: i dont get it |
| 20:41.59 | stiv2k | it isn't working |
| 20:42.02 | xingu | dutchfish: well, /dev is one of those places where you *do* actually want to know about new/gone device nodes, permission changes, etc |
| 20:42.05 | CharminTheMoose | is there no g++-2.95 package in etch? |
| 20:42.10 | ttick | abrotman: apt-cache show linux-kernel-headers only shows the 2.6.18-7 version. Only one is shown (the etch standard, I'm guessing). I'm not sure how to find the more recent headers. |
| 20:42.16 | stiv2k | jelly-home: now it's now loading devilspie at all upon startup |
| 20:42.20 | dutchfish | xingu, ic |
| 20:42.23 | ziyax | jeez clamav update uses all resources of box |
| 20:42.24 | abrotman | ttick: that's not what i said |
| 20:42.24 | jelly-home | stiv2k: hm |
| 20:42.30 | xingu | JeffH_: in that case your ntp daemon has since exitted; I'm guessing, that something about your /etc/ntp.conf at one point allowed it to synch. to that source |
| 20:42.34 | ttick | abrotman: okay, re-reading |
| 20:42.40 | stiv2k | jelly-home: i dont know if gnome's session manager accepts operands like ; |
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| 20:42.50 | xingu | JeffH_: perhaps, you have [0-3].pool.ntp.org listed as servers? |
| 20:43.05 | ttick | abrotman: okay your command shows: "linux-kernel-headers - Linux Kernel Headers for development |
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| 20:43.16 | ttick | abrotman: and linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 20:43.22 | abrotman | ttick: apt-cache search linux-headers ? |
| 20:43.26 | ttick | abrotman: and a few others that don't have versions |
| 20:43.31 | abrotman | how did you install ? |
| 20:43.38 | jelly-home | stiv2k: that's why we use sh plus some arguments for sh. gnome shouldn't parse that ; on its own |
| 20:43.45 | ttick | abrotman: heh, typed it wrong. Very sorry |
| 20:43.55 | stiv2k | ah whoops |
| 20:44.01 | ttick | abrotman: okay, see it now. Thanks |
| 20:44.18 | Ace2016 | someone found out my email... and he knows my website... how? |
| 20:44.27 | JeffH_ | xingu: not sure. I didn't even know I had an ntp server setup. |
| 20:44.55 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish not a reall answer in the article |
| 20:45.05 | jelly-home | stiv2k: dunno, try asking someone who knows about gnome. or even create a small shell script to do sleep and then exec devilspie, then call that. |
| 20:45.07 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, hold on |
| 20:45.22 | stiv2k | jelly-home: no i think its a problem with the syntax |
| 20:45.27 | stiv2k | steve@trillian:~$ sh -c sleep 5; echo 1 |
| 20:45.27 | stiv2k | sleep: missing operand |
| 20:45.27 | stiv2k | Try `sleep --help' for more information. |
| 20:45.32 | abrotman | dutchfish: can you help me with irda?!? |
| 20:45.40 | Ace2016 | i have whois guard too :( |
| 20:46.05 | fujin_ | stiv2k: it's cause you're sh -c |
| 20:46.15 | jelly-home | stiv2k: you forgot the quotes. |
| 20:46.20 | fujin_ | aye |
| 20:46.24 | fujin_ | it would interpret each arg |
| 20:46.26 | jelly-home | stiv2k: sh -c 'sleep 5; echo 1' |
| 20:46.30 | stiv2k | jelly-home: ah |
| 20:46.35 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, this is better i think: http://www.micressor.ch/index.php/Tripwire_mit_debian_verwenden |
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| 20:46.53 | dutchfish | abrotman, i cant access repos at moment for lenny, but shoot |
| 20:47.12 | abrotman | i was joking |
| 20:47.26 | dutchfish | abrotman, oh ok ;) |
| 20:47.41 | dutchfish | abrotman, just trying to be helpfull |
| 20:47.43 | fas3r | what's the option for reinstall all package with apt-get ? .i know for remove all files it's apt-get --purge remove .. but what's the command for reinstall al applicatio n |
| 20:47.45 | fas3r | ? |
| 20:48.01 | fas3r | i have test with --reinstall but don't work .. |
| 20:48.14 | jelly-home | fas3r: why do you want to do that? |
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| 20:48.32 | fas3r | it's work but it don't recreate the folder with config files .. |
| 20:48.39 | jelly-home | !confmiss |
| 20:48.39 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 20:48.41 | dutchfish | abrotman, reminder is noted |
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| 20:48.50 | jelly-home | fas3r: see what dpkg said |
| 20:48.53 | fas3r | jelly-home: i want to reinstall completly samba .. |
| 20:48.54 | stiv2k | jelly-home: beautiful |
| 20:48.55 | abrotman | dutchfish: that i make bad jokes ? |
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| 20:49.11 | stiv2k | jelly-home: are you familiar with (pin) in the devilspie conf? |
| 20:49.19 | dutchfish | abrotman, no no, i reminder not to forget to check it tommorrow |
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| 20:49.39 | jelly-home | stiv2k: I use it to place some wmaker applets, yeah |
| 20:49.45 | abrotman | oh |
| 20:49.50 | fas3r | because i don't understand it doesn't work .. but i have just make an apt-get upgrade .. before it work but now .. no .. i have testarm the file it's ok .; and all parameter is ok .. |
| 20:49.50 | stiv2k | jelly-home: its supposed to put apps on all workspaces right? |
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| 20:50.05 | nn_ | !moo |
| 20:50.05 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 20:50.10 | stiv2k | jelly-home: cause i might be using it incorrectly but it isnt working |
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| 20:50.19 | Asmooh | euhm; in exim3 "search_type = mysql" ... has changed in exim4, anyone knows to what? |
| 20:50.42 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish updating my databse with the first twr worked. This was before i changed my policy so it has to be there |
| 20:50.57 | jelly-home | stiv2k: there's a gotcha... lemme paste one of my files. |
| 20:50.58 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, i gues so, yes |
| 20:51.02 | stiv2k | jelly-home: ok |
| 20:51.41 | fas3r | ok thank all |
| 20:52.05 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish the only problem now is that i need figure out what i did wrong.... |
| 20:52.10 | fas3r | why thn we ask question people response by question ... |
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| 20:52.40 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, if this is dif. you could always apt-get instal --reinstall and start over ... |
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| 20:52.51 | JeffH_ | what's wrong with this? find / -type f -exec grep -il string {}\; ? |
| 20:53.28 | jelly-home | stiv2k: http://paste.debian.net/40885 ... basically wintype dock and pin don't work well, so you have to wintype normal, then pin, then go back to wintype dock |
| 20:53.32 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish what do you mean with dif? |
| 20:53.49 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, dificult |
| 20:53.58 | stiv2k | jelly-home: interesting i been using wintype utility up until now |
| 20:54.05 | stiv2k | jelly-home: how does wintype dock differ?\ |
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| 20:54.12 | jelly-home | stiv2k: hm, dunno what is utility to be honest :-) |
| 20:54.23 | stiv2k | jelly-home: dunno just saw it in a howto :s |
| 20:54.28 | ziyax | ok ty jelly-home volatile version works fine |
| 20:54.33 | fas3r | jelly-home: it's not dpkg i need to use apt-get ... |
| 20:54.45 | jelly-home | stiv2k: but these were docked apps before, in afterstep, so I took that. |
| 20:55.01 | jelly-home | fas3r: read that factoid _carefully_ |
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| 20:55.14 | fas3r | ok thank 3 hours i search .. thank |
| 20:55.20 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish well i had the standard debian pol file. i erarsed the directorys i don't wanna check and only was left with one directory...so i need to figure out what i did wrong....maybe....wait i got something |
| 20:55.33 | fas3r | fuckin linux de merde |
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| 20:55.42 | stiv2k | jelly-home: its a no-go for me |
| 20:55.58 | dutchfish | fas3r, dont make my day |
| 20:56.02 | stiv2k | im tryign to have transparent gnome-terminals to appear to be part of the background |
| 20:56.06 | stiv2k | on all the workspaces |
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| 20:56.21 | jelly-home | stiv2k: yeah, I have an aterm like that |
| 20:56.29 | fas3r | dutchfish: ok cause toujours tu m'interresse |
| 20:56.36 | stiv2k | jelly-home: is that what you set to "dock" ? |
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| 20:57.04 | dutchfish | fas3r, not really |
| 20:57.24 | jelly-home | stiv2k: no. that one is: pin, undecorate, below, (wintype "desktop") |
| 20:57.32 | fas3r | dutchfish: ok c'est ca et puis openssl marche tu racontai de la merde tout a l'heure .. |
| 20:58.00 | dutchfish | fas3r, how does RTFM convert to french? |
| 20:58.24 | fas3r | dutchfish: ta qu'a l'apprendre putain d'anglias de merde |
| 20:58.35 | jelly-home | fas3r: dude, it's the last sentence in /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 20:58.52 | fas3r | jelly-home: ok c'est ca oui |
| 20:59.01 | stiv2k | jelly-home: whenever i use wintype "desktop" it works until i click on the desktop itself and then the terminals isntantly go behind the desktop and are no longer visible |
| 20:59.10 | jelly-home | I'd also suggest washing the mouth :-P |
| 20:59.30 | fas3r | jelly-home: j'ai deja regarder partout je vois pas le rapport avec dpkg mais c'est pas grave de toute facon je vous emmerde |
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| 21:00.07 | jelly-home | fas3r: sorry, I can't understand you except for certain keywords :-) |
| 21:00.24 | dutchfish | fas3r, debian-fr? |
| 21:00.25 | stiv2k | jelly-home: i dunno if maybe fusion-icon is affecting it maybe |
| 21:00.32 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish Think i did something bad with makeing the twpol.txt to the yw.pol file with a wrong sitekey do you have a good commiandline for me? |
| 21:00.59 | fas3r | dutchfish: jelly-home : ouai c'est cause toujours |
| 21:01.06 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, regarding tripwire i am overasked with that one |
| 21:01.36 | HardDisk_WP | how do I grep in a kernel src tree for all files containing "ipg_ioctl"? |
| 21:01.47 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: man grep ? |
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| 21:02.22 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish thanks googling it |
| 21:02.24 | jelly-home | stiv2k: I've seen that behavior too, one of my aterms hides behind xfdesktop but the other one stays where it should. I have no idea whose fault it is, xfdesktop or devilspie, but something is buggy. :-| |
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| 21:02.45 | stiv2k | jelly-home: :| |
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| 21:03.00 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, ok, otherwise remove --purge it and reinstall, i needed it 3x before i got it right back then |
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| 21:04.07 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish :getting it wrong after wrong after wrong..is the debian way but then you figure it out and bang..rocksolid system |
| 21:04.14 | jelly-home | stiv2k: a stupid workaround could be to restart devilspie in a loop, like while : ; do sleep 60; killall devilspie; sleep 1; devilspie &; done & :-) |
| 21:04.36 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, its not knowledge, its only hard work that rocks the boat |
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| 21:05.22 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, grep -Hirn ipg_ioctl? |
| 21:05.30 | abrotman | try it |
| 21:05.46 | stiv2k | jelly-home: like an infinite loop? |
| 21:05.48 | HardDisk_WP | it runs for ages now...do you know of a progress bar? |
| 21:05.55 | stiv2k | jelly-home: that seems kind of hackerish |
| 21:07.10 | tduermeier | I'm having the most bizarre error... I'm able to browse the net freely, including google.com, but I am unable to resolve it with a ping, mtr, traceroute... all come back as failed. I can ping yahoo.com, youtube.com, digg.com, but for some reason google (including gmail.com, google.org) |
| 21:07.15 | jelly-home | stiv2k: it is an ugly kludge, but who cares. If you have time to fix devilspie or Gnome's desktop properly, go ahead :-) |
| 21:07.33 | tduermeier | doesn't work |
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| 21:07.56 | tduermeier | another system on my local network is able to resolve all of these, but for some reason I cannot |
| 21:08.20 | Diafic2 | ugh, reboot |
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| 21:08.41 | tduermeier | would anyone have any suggestions? |
| 21:09.25 | fujin_ | tduermeier: do a host <blah> <your_isps_nameserver_ip_address> |
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| 21:09.29 | dutchfish | tduermeier, proxy? firewall on your machine? firewall that restricts certain machines or IP's? |
| 21:09.47 | ttick | I'm trying to configure VMWare 4.0 on a 2.6.22 kernel. Expected gcc is 4.1.3, but I'm going to try with my 4.2.3. Getting hung up on the kernel-header files. Since I install from apt-get I've never compiled the kernel on this box. However, VMWare is looking for /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h, which to my understanding is only their if you compile the kernel. Any other way to get it? |
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| 21:10.05 | abrotman | !version.h |
| 21:10.05 | dpkg | if you use multiple kernels and wish to use the include files with ease, copy /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z. then 'ln -fs /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h' |
| 21:10.17 | jelly-home | ttick: install kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 21:10.46 | tduermeier | no firewall running on my machine, nor proxy |
| 21:10.47 | ttick | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 21:10.51 | click170 | Can someone help me figure out why I get "WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18/Module.symvers |
| 21:10.52 | click170 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.52 | click170 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:11.34 | thelostbutler | hello folks, i am planning to setup a mailserver using postfix on debian etch system, i am still kind of confused, if i should go the way domainkeys or spf records. i would appreciate some suggestions. thank you |
| 21:11.35 | solanaceo | Guys, hello. I got a problem with grub. Today.. i don't know why,... just that happened, grub when loading at starup, just shows the text "GRUB", nothing more. The PC is now freezed, but grub ain't loading. What can it be? |
| 21:12.28 | keith4_ | solanaceo: that's the grub shell |
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| 21:12.36 | keith4_ | which means it didn't find any configuration information |
| 21:12.59 | keith4_ | thelostbutler: ask in #postfix |
| 21:13.18 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, spf records will do you more wrong then being helpfull at the moment, a lot of spammers use spf records |
| 21:13.39 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: oh ok |
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| 21:14.28 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, but postfix certainly has a lot of extras to setup good antispam control |
| 21:14.30 | solanaceo | keith4, it does not look like the grub shell.. and i can't enter any command. is just a plain "GRUB" text |
| 21:14.55 | thelostbutler | keith4_: i did, somebody recommended spf against domainkeys since domainkeys is MS abomination or whatever. and other said the opposite, so i got confused, and came to good ole debian irc |
| 21:14.57 | keith4_ | solanaceo: sounds like should reinstall grub |
| 21:15.13 | solanaceo | keith4, i did it... same thing afterwards |
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| 21:15.25 | keith4_ | thelostbutler: neither is great |
| 21:15.37 | solanaceo | keith4, any other way i can get error feedback? |
| 21:15.39 | dutchfish | keith4, confirmed |
| 21:15.44 | eleftherios | I religiously follow the instructions at http://aron.hakanson.se/cgi-bin/index.pl?sida=virtexim4&sprak=en and yet exim4 delivers mail to wrong use accounts! |
| 21:15.53 | eleftherios | on debian etch |
| 21:15.55 | ttick | abrotman: okay, what's the difference between: linux-headers-2.6.22-3 and linux-headers-2.6.22-3-686 (one has version.h the other doesn't -- yet only the first matches `uname -r` |
| 21:16.01 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: the problem is at the recieving end, that is, yahoo puts some of the mails in the bulk folder, so trying to find a solution that will help me out |
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| 21:16.11 | nameless | someone has tried kde4 by experimental repos here ? |
| 21:16.16 | quittt | is there a .deb of Netscape Communicator 4.8?? |
| 21:16.18 | abrotman | ttick: one is arch specific? |
| 21:16.22 | abrotman | quittt: god. . i hope not |
| 21:16.32 | keith4_ | quittt: no |
| 21:16.32 | quittt | abrotman, why not? |
| 21:16.45 | keith4_ | because it's 10 years old |
| 21:16.45 | abrotman | it's old .. dead .. probably full of security issues |
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| 21:16.56 | Bushmills | thelostbutler, why not set it up incrementally: put postfix on first, limited anti-spam, and proceed as you feel comfortable? |
| 21:17.03 | quittt | abrotman, it was a great browser |
| 21:17.07 | abrotman | bullshit |
| 21:17.25 | keith4_ | it was never "great" |
| 21:17.34 | quittt | keith4, it was... |
| 21:17.36 | abrotman | keith4_: it was better than IE4 :) |
| 21:17.42 | quittt | well... great was Netscape 7 |
| 21:17.49 | thelostbutler | Bushmills: i guess so. |
| 21:17.49 | quittt | the bestest Netscape ever |
| 21:17.51 | quittt | well |
| 21:17.52 | thelostbutler | thanks folks |
| 21:17.52 | abrotman | quittt: then run over to irc.mozilla.org and ask them why the tree is dead |
| 21:17.54 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, normally yahoo is gentle but check if your ip is blacklisted and if not that your mailserver confirms openrelaycheck and can coop with a good antispam setup (amavisd-new) |
| 21:18.06 | quittt | bestest Netscape ever is Netscape Navigator 9 |
| 21:18.11 | quittt | that's a great OS |
| 21:18.13 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 21:18.24 | quittt | a OS? |
| 21:18.27 | quittt | a browser |
| 21:18.32 | quittt | I'm getting crazy haha |
| 21:18.35 | abrotman | NN9 is based on FF2 |
| 21:18.45 | quittt | abrotman, based and better... |
| 21:18.54 | abrotman | quittt: great .. it's not in debian .. try irc.mozilla.org |
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| 21:19.31 | abrotman | now with a ship's wheel for a throbber! |
| 21:19.56 | quittt | abrotman, actually Netscape 9 is much lighter than Firefox... |
| 21:20.06 | abrotman | quittt: sure sure .. it's still not in debian |
| 21:20.19 | quittt | well... but it should be... |
| 21:20.21 | tduermeier | fujin: I received this after running "host www.google.com 68.94.156.1" : http://pastebin.com/m1d7dce11 |
| 21:20.58 | abrotman | quittt: we already told you why .. plus it was in contrib or non-free IIRC |
| 21:21.15 | abrotman | or both perhaps |
| 21:21.59 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: is there a particular resource that i can use to verify if my server pass/fail openrelaycheck ? |
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| 21:22.59 | wols | thelostbutler: not really possible to do in a meaningful way |
| 21:23.21 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, maybe this one? http://www.checkor.com/ |
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| 21:23.37 | wols | I once saw a mailserver which only was an open relay for the /24 subnet of his cable ISP |
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| 21:24.05 | wols | and someone who was in his /24 subnet had a spamzombie who used his mailserver |
| 21:24.11 | dutchfish | wols, lol, gues why? |
| 21:24.32 | click170_ | Does anyone know what to do about a missing Module.symvers problem? |
| 21:24.33 | wols | cause mynetworks was set wrongly. no guess needed |
| 21:25.20 | dutchfish | wols, or: no we dont allow spamming, how much you say? |
| 21:25.54 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: thanks for the recommendation |
| 21:25.55 | wols | it was a home mailserver on a cable isp line |
| 21:26.08 | thelostbutler | wols: hmmn ok |
| 21:27.10 | thelostbutler | well there are applications that test stress test mail servers or applications that can to check for rootkits, basic stuff may be, so i was wondering if there are applications like that to test setup of mail servvers |
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| 21:27.38 | thelostbutler | i meant stress test web servers |
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| 21:29.23 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, hammerhead? |
| 21:29.29 | abrotman | ab |
| 21:29.46 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: i will check it out. thank you |
| 21:29.56 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, yw |
| 21:30.27 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, dont use during peak hours ;) |
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| 21:31.20 | Ace2016 | Hi again |
| 21:31.27 | Ace2016 | how do i put a command inside a command? |
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| 21:31.46 | abrotman | cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 21:31.49 | thelostbutler | dutchfish: errr, hammerhead seems to stress test a web server, i meant to look for a tool that does for a mailserver |
| 21:32.09 | dutchfish | thelostbutler, ow my misread sorry |
| 21:32.15 | Ace2016 | say i want to echo 'export md5sum=!!!command here to get md5sum!!!' > file |
| 21:32.18 | Ace2016 | so how do i do that? |
| 21:32.20 | abrotman | thelostbutler: rabid |
| 21:32.31 | Ace2016 | -$() ?? |
| 21:32.34 | Ace2016 | i'll try it |
| 21:32.35 | abrotman | Ace2016: blah=$(command) .. or ask #bash |
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| 21:33.19 | thelostbutler | abrotman: thank you |
| 21:33.32 | abrotman | thelostbutler: i'm sure there are others .. i'v ejust seen that one before |
| 21:33.57 | thelostbutler | abrotman: ok |
| 21:34.12 | thelostbutler | thank you for the suggestions folks, appreciate the help, hope you have a nice day |
| 21:34.30 | xerophyt1 | does anybody know what is the apache byteslogs good for ? i have asked in the apache channel didn't get answer |
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| 21:36.36 | Asmooh | hmm |
| 21:36.40 | Asmooh | exim4 is only an smtp ? |
| 21:36.53 | dutchfish | !exim4 |
| 21:36.53 | dpkg | hmm... exim4 is the default MTA in Debian sarge. The Debian package has a debconf-driven configuration which greatly eases configuration for most run-of-the-mill applications. E-Mail is a complicated matter, so it might be necessary to read a lot of documentation to allow more advanced features. exim4 is very powerful and flexible. Find more about Debian's exim4 on http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 21:37.35 | Asmooh | yea i know.. but because i can connect to it to send mail; but not to get mail :) |
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| 21:38.14 | dutchfish | Asmooh, what do you mean by get? |
| 21:38.19 | Asmooh | by pop3 |
| 21:38.22 | Asmooh | or email client |
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| 21:39.28 | dutchfish | Asmooh, for that you need a pop3 client not an MTA |
| 21:39.32 | daidalus13 | hi all. I have mozilla (1.7.8 - debian sarge) installed. Do you think there is any serious reason to install firefox in terms of features or security? |
| 21:40.03 | Asmooh | dutchfish, okay, but.. is there an pop3 client that support mysql; so i can use exim4 and pop3 with the same user/pass/mailbox |
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| 21:40.23 | dutchfish | Asmooh, there are actually alot |
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| 21:40.28 | Asmooh | ow :) |
| 21:40.49 | Asmooh | apt-get install courier-authmysql |
| 21:40.51 | Asmooh | hhm ? |
| 21:41.07 | dutchfish | Asmooh, thats 1 possibility |
| 21:41.22 | Asmooh | it there a better one? or is this the best one? |
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| 21:41.29 | lvh | hi |
| 21:41.32 | dutchfish | Asmooh, it depends on your specific needs |
| 21:41.44 | lvh | could anyone check if ftp.be.debian.org is broken? When I try to get to it, it tells me: |
| 21:41.52 | lvh | PASS failed, server said: Unable to set anonymous privileges. Login incorrect. |
| 21:41.55 | Asmooh | well a lot of users dutchfish :) |
| 21:42.04 | lvh | Seems like a fucked ftp server on their side? |
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| 21:42.22 | abrotman | lvh: use http instead of ftp |
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| 21:42.26 | dutchfish | Asmooh, server or cleint? |
| 21:42.30 | lvh | abrotman: okay. Why? |
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| 21:42.34 | Asmooh | server |
| 21:42.40 | abrotman | lvh: i thnik you're seeing why :) |
| 21:42.41 | Asmooh | i need to install this server for my work |
| 21:42.44 | lvh | abrotman: just a workaround or is there a good reason |
| 21:42.45 | lvh | abrotman: aha |
| 21:42.51 | jelly-home | lvh: yeah, it fails at ftp. :-) |
| 21:42.58 | abrotman | lvh: i meant the http:// vs ftp:// .. not the hostname itself |
| 21:43.01 | lvh | abrotman: no technical reason why http>ftp except "ftp doesnt work atm" |
| 21:43.04 | lvh | abrotman: i know |
| 21:43.16 | abrotman | lvh: lots of technical reasons to use http over ftp |
| 21:43.29 | lvh | abrotman: heh |
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| 21:43.33 | lvh | http is broken to |
| 21:43.34 | jelly-home | abrotman: it fails at http:// too, 403 |
| 21:43.35 | sivik | how does rcp work |
| 21:43.39 | abrotman | bastards! |
| 21:43.43 | lvh | abrotman: 403 forbidden |
| 21:43.59 | jelly-home | lvh: s/be/nl/ or something :-| |
| 21:44.04 | lvh | so, err, i use my university's debian mirror ;-) |
| 21:44.06 | dutchfish | Asmooh, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch |
| 21:44.20 | abrotman | lvh: uhm .. i'd send an email to the debian-mirrors list to see if they know |
| 21:44.23 | dutchfish | Asmooh, the mail server section |
| 21:44.24 | lvh | jelly-home: ftp://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be/debian works :) |
| 21:44.28 | lvh | abrotman: okay |
| 21:44.52 | lvh | abrotman: i should talk to my other server over http as well, correct? |
| 21:44.54 | Asmooh | let me check :) |
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| 21:45.08 | abrotman | lvh: probably |
| 21:45.09 | lvh | abrotman: my university's debian mirror is in my sources.list too, over ftp. |
| 21:45.12 | abrotman | where'd the butler go ? |
| 21:45.17 | lvh | abrotman: it does _work_ though |
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| 21:45.21 | abrotman | i gave himt he wrong package name |
| 21:45.24 | sineer | Hi! |
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| 21:45.32 | abrotman | lvh: use whichever works |
| 21:45.48 | lvh | abrotman: ah. I thought you said there were good reasons to use http over ftp. |
| 21:45.54 | dutchfish | abrotman, googled my buts of for rabid |
| 21:46.06 | dutchfish | abrotman, ;) |
| 21:46.07 | abrotman | dutchfish: the binary is called rabid .. the package is postal |
| 21:46.14 | lvh | abrotman: is there any point in checking for a speed difference or should they be equal? I'm assuming it's more or less the same |
| 21:46.21 | abrotman | dutchfish: http://freshmeat.net/projects/postal/ |
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| 21:46.38 | abrotman | lvh: i'd guess roughyl the same |
| 21:46.44 | dutchfish | abrotman, got that eventually, but butler is a goner |
| 21:46.53 | abrotman | dutchfish: hopefully he did too ... |
| 21:47.28 | sineer | I have issues with my linux 2.6.23.1 Q6600 Quad box where when I xfer data for a while it fail after a short while and stops transfering any data.. I can't ping anything until I reboot... Not only that but my mouse becomes incredibly slow and system is quite unresponsive... I had this issue for a while and recently tried to upgrade to 2.6.23.1 with no changes... I'm using a forcedeth ethernet card on a evga 680i mobo... Anyone ha |
| 21:47.28 | sineer | s a clue please? |
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| 21:47.55 | Speckal | what do people on amd64 do for mozilla flash plugins? wrap 32-bit flash plugin? use 3rd party plugin? |
| 21:47.58 | lvh | sineer: how are you transferring data? |
| 21:48.09 | lvh | sineer: are you seeing anything ugly in /var/log/messages or dmesg? |
| 21:48.09 | abrotman | Speckal: nspluginwrapper or wathever |
| 21:48.17 | Speckal | :/ |
| 21:48.17 | abrotman | or chroot for 32bit FF |
| 21:48.40 | sineer | lvh, nothing ugly shows up in dmesg or messages log. I had this issue with both NFS transfer and SSH |
| 21:48.43 | dutchfish | abrotman, postal is a tool anyway for fast getting on a blacklist if used improperly ;) |
| 21:48.47 | sineer | lvh, scp I mean |
| 21:48.48 | lvh | sineer: do you have a spare ethernet card you can test to see if that fixes the problem? (preferably something decent... e100/e1000 or 3com 100mbitters are good) |
| 21:48.55 | guiss | Hi, I am doing some apt-pinning and installed the new fglrx-driver. Since the new install (version 8.42) the system does not find libGL.so.1, which before was in /usr/ia32/libs . Did anyone tried installing this driver? |
| 21:48.59 | abrotman | dutchfish: that too :) |
| 21:49.03 | obsethryl | hmm anyone informed about the sysvinit_2.86ds1-38.1 problem with libata? |
| 21:49.08 | sineer | I have a cheapo DLink pci 100mbit card I guess I could try |
| 21:49.14 | lvh | sineer: have you always had the problem or did it happen when you upgraded your kernel? |
| 21:49.29 | lvh | sineer: statistically speaking thats probably an rtl8139 but it should work |
| 21:49.35 | lvh | sineer: not _well_ but it should work :p |
| 21:49.59 | sineer | lvh, always had this problem ever since I build this new Q6600 box about a month ago... I ran .6.23 and a few pre .23 releases on it.. now running 6.23.1 and same issue |
| 21:50.25 | lvh | sineer: okay. You sure there is nothing in dmesg? |
| 21:50.37 | jelly-home | sineer: are you positive the card is using forcedeth driver? |
| 21:50.44 | lvh | sineer: latest bios update? |
| 21:50.54 | lvh | sineer: tried booting with acpi=off and noapic kernel flags? |
| 21:50.59 | sineer | lvh, yep.. 100% sure. I've seen my raid0 xfs md0 device failed previously last time I tried but I fixed that and had the same issue following that trying the big xfer again and again.. |
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| 21:51.14 | lvh | sineer: apic + cheap boards = baby jebus crying |
| 21:51.35 | lvh | sineer: try sending something to yourself over lo |
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| 21:51.45 | sineer | lvh, ehh.. well my evga680i is not a cheap board I thinl |
| 21:51.49 | Spiritus55 | Flash player is still messing up on iceweasel.. what should I do? |
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| 21:51.55 | Spiritus55 | Isn't there a non-free package that has flash? |
| 21:52.03 | lvh | sineer: that way we can narrow it down to your network driver |
| 21:52.07 | sineer | sineer, I'll try sending myself something through lo that's a good idea.. then I'll try acpi off or another eth card |
| 21:52.18 | lvh | sineer: try noapic first |
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| 21:52.28 | sineer | lvh, ok.. you really think this could be it? |
| 21:52.35 | lvh | sineer: what could be it |
| 21:52.38 | lvh | sineer: noapic? |
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| 21:52.58 | sineer | yeah |
| 21:53.05 | lvh | sineer: definately. a lot of new boards are released with bioses that are nowhere near production quality |
| 21:53.15 | lvh | sineer: i've seen it fix strange bugs on new boards numerous times |
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| 21:53.30 | sineer | lvh, ok, thanks for the advices :) I'll try that first then |
| 21:53.38 | lvh | sineer: noapic has made me buy nothing x86 anymore except |
| 21:53.41 | lvh | sineer: waitttt |
| 21:53.43 | lvh | sineer: try lo first |
| 21:53.45 | h3sp4wn | Anyone happen to know how the new dnsmasq stuff works |
| 21:53.47 | lvh | sineer: doesnt need a reboot :p |
| 21:53.53 | lvh | sineer: just use netcat |
| 21:54.00 | h3sp4wn | (does it no longer read /etc/ethers ?) |
| 21:54.19 | lvh | sineer: get netcat to listen on localhost, get netcat to yell on localhost. easy. Cat from /dev/urandom) |
| 21:54.33 | obsethryl | guys, anyone around with improper spindowns on sata drives before poweroffs? |
| 21:54.38 | Azar | cool read "The Past 12 Linux Kernels Benchmarked" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=893&num=1 |
| 21:55.04 | haggz | obsethryl: you getting the warning when you powerdown? using a non-debian newer kernel perhaps? |
| 21:55.08 | lvh | jelly-home: yeah, but i'm not after anything quantitative atm |
| 21:55.09 | sineer | lvh, ok I'll try that first :) |
| 21:55.14 | lvh | jelly-home: it dies or it doesnt die :p |
| 21:55.22 | dutchfish | obsethryl, only on certain disks, yes |
| 21:55.27 | obsethryl | haggz: i am using debian testing |
| 21:55.48 | jelly-home | lvh: works for that too... and /dev/zero is less expensive than urandom I bet, too |
| 21:55.54 | obsethryl | kernel is 2.6.22-2-amd64 |
| 21:55.56 | lvh | jelly-home: undoubtably |
| 21:55.57 | luke | I enabled the sid repository to download GIMP 2.40 - but it seems to want to download GNOME 2.20? - Is 2.20 required? And are the packages for 2.20 online (in a some-what "stable" form, as far as dependecies?) - Sorry - I'm kind of new! |
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| 21:56.04 | obsethryl | dutchfish: seagate disks, new ones |
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| 21:56.18 | haggz | obsethryl: i only get the error on non-debian kernels ive compiled myself, there is a webpage with some information about the issue, according to it, distro maintainers need to edit their shutdown scripts to spindown some sata drives properly i think |
| 21:56.29 | obsethryl | haggz: it is a debian kernel this time |
| 21:56.41 | dutchfish | obsethryl, nvm, i had that on other brand disks with improper firmware |
| 21:56.41 | obsethryl | haggz: correct |
| 21:57.09 | obsethryl | improper spindowns are kind of worrying, should i just recompile a fixed shutdown? or there is a fix in the repos someplace |
| 21:57.16 | haggz | obsethryl: if you are concerned id recommend going back to the .18 kernel which is still available in the repos I think |
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| 21:57.47 | Azar | haggz: the way I read around you can compile your own kernel, but is wise to compile it following the debian rules... this way you don't have a stock kernel, but by the same token not a custom kernel that conflicts with debian rules |
| 21:58.10 | obsethryl | haggz: i will revert to a .21 |
| 21:58.16 | obsethryl | this is kind of worrying me quite a bit |
| 21:58.32 | obsethryl | strange that the fix has not been included upstream yet |
| 21:58.41 | dutchfish | obsethryl, using NCQ? |
| 21:58.56 | obsethryl | dutchfish: raid controllers have that here |
| 21:59.01 | jelly-home | obsethryl: there are no stable upstream kernels any more. :-| |
| 21:59.15 | obsethryl | jelly-home: lol yah i know |
| 21:59.19 | Ranpha1 | duchfish did a fresh install and i still have the same error |
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| 21:59.41 | dutchfish | obsethryl, sounds simlair to this: http://www.lsi.com/support/downloads/megaraid/sata/firmware/815C_Readme.txt |
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| 22:00.23 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, tripwire was it? |
| 22:00.40 | obsethryl | dutchfish: i am using softraid btw, i will look into that as well |
| 22:01.03 | pipeline | luke: first off, you need to use apt pinning |
| 22:01.07 | dutchfish | obsethryl, then maybe its also related to bad NCQ |
| 22:01.09 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish yeah it says it can't find nor open it....but i checked /var/lib/tripwire/report....and it's not there |
| 22:01.16 | pipeline | luke: otherwise it'll upgrade stuff by default, not just the stuff that HAS to be upgraded |
| 22:01.32 | pipeline | luke: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 22:01.48 | luke | pipeline: Thank you - Will check out the link :) |
| 22:01.49 | obsethryl | dutchfish: could be, but still i never had this problem with the same hardware till i went 2.6.22 |
| 22:01.51 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, try : apt-get remove --purge tripwire && apt-get install tripwire |
| 22:02.15 | obsethryl | dutchfish: haggz: thanks for the feedback so far |
| 22:02.17 | dutchfish | obsethryl, ok, then you can rule out the NCQ |
| 22:02.30 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish did that ...complete new tripwire install with fresh standard policy files....funny thing is the whole report is not where it's supposed to be |
| 22:02.38 | obsethryl | dutchfish: i very much think that this is related to the shutdown improper spindown |
| 22:02.53 | dutchfish | obsethryl, could be, no idee |
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| 22:03.17 | obsethryl | dutchfish: thanks again, i will revert to another kernel |
| 22:03.23 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, after remove --purge is the db still there? |
| 22:03.58 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish no was removed as well. the twr file that the --check makes..well it's not there |
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| 22:04.40 | Spiritus55 | Flash player is still messing up on iceweasel.. what should I do? |
| 22:04.43 | Spiritus55 | Isn't there a non-free package that has flash? |
| 22:04.46 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, you did reinitilize the db? |
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| 22:04.57 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, reinitialize |
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| 22:05.06 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish yup |
| 22:05.18 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, mmm... |
| 22:05.37 | sineer | lvh, netcat over localhost Sent/Received over 2G and everything runs swell sofar.. I'll try noacpi now |
| 22:05.37 | phlpp | pioneers: /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2) |
| 22:05.50 | phlpp | hm, i installed libpng12-dev, and i now got a file libpng12.so.0 |
| 22:05.57 | phlpp | but the error is still there |
| 22:06.12 | phlpp | can i 'refresh' my libs/system, so that the error won't occur? |
| 22:06.17 | Azar | wtf on Lxer weekly there is an article about Gnome backing OOXML at ECMA? huh? damn I am glad I am not using Gnome |
| 22:06.22 | phlpp | i mean, i GOT this file, it's a symlink |
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| 22:06.46 | Yachi | T-Metal "Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders." |
| 22:06.51 | phlpp | ** (process:4868): WARNING **: Error while loading settings: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden |
| 22:06.54 | phlpp | pioneers: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl |
| 22:06.59 | phlpp | don't know what to do.. |
| 22:07.04 | Azar | haha |
| 22:07.24 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish brb natual is calling |
| 22:07.48 | lvh | ... |
| 22:07.51 | lvh | he's trying noacpi |
| 22:07.53 | lvh | thats not a flag |
| 22:07.54 | lvh | ... |
| 22:07.56 | Azar | Yachi: tho, it is nice to have applications available on any OS as nice as having a PC's hardware running any OS (besided Mac) |
| 22:08.06 | Nyle | man |
| 22:08.10 | Nyle | compiz confusion kicks ass |
| 22:08.16 | Azar | misterrr Nyle! |
| 22:08.19 | lvh | if sineer comes back, please tell him that the flag he wants is noapic, not noacpi (the latter doesnt exist) |
| 22:08.21 | Nyle | Azar! |
| 22:08.22 | lvh | thanks |
| 22:08.31 | Nyle | lvh: msg him |
| 22:08.34 | Nyle | lvh: leave a memo |
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| 22:08.36 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, ls -ltr /var/lib/tripwire/report (what does it say) |
| 22:08.37 | Azar | you got compiz decorating your desktop? |
| 22:08.44 | Nyle | compiz 'confusion' |
| 22:08.46 | Nyle | ;) |
| 22:08.49 | Azar | hehehe |
| 22:08.49 | phlpp | hm |
| 22:08.53 | phlpp | can't anybody help me? :F |
| 22:09.07 | phlpp | it's really annoying, trying to fix all that stuff for, dont know, some hours |
| 22:09.10 | Nyle | phlpp: maybe if anyone spoke freaky deaky dutch |
| 22:09.14 | Nyle | !de |
| 22:09.15 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 22:09.19 | lvh | Nyle: eh? does that work? |
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| 22:09.26 | lvh | Nyle: 23:09 -!- sineer: No such nick/channel |
| 22:10.01 | Nyle | lvh: ok then later |
| 22:10.09 | Nyle | i doubt anyone will remember tell him |
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| 22:10.20 | Azar | Nyle: I am just back from work frustrated, our call accounting software run on RH froze... they did a server maintenance on Sat. morning and now is down - frustration hit the fan - I can't even email the big shots - email down too hahahaha |
| 22:10.32 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish hang on i think i have the problem just need to test something |
| 22:10.44 | dutchfish | Ranpha1, k |
| 22:10.54 | Nyle | Azar: nothing you can do but drink now |
| 22:11.01 | Randomist | Does Debian Unstable get more updates than Ubuntu? |
| 22:11.14 | Azar | Nyle: you are right on the buck: beer on my desk now |
| 22:11.23 | phenom | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.24 | jelly-home | phlpp: don't mix different releases until you're very experienced with debian. /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 22:11.25 | dutchfish | chears |
| 22:11.25 | Nyle | I need to pay my car insurane today |
| 22:11.26 | phenom | :/ |
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| 22:11.35 | Nyle | Azar: wanna pay my car insurance bill for me? |
| 22:11.49 | Azar | Nyle: no car here... I buy beer with car insurance money |
| 22:11.56 | Nyle | lol |
| 22:11.58 | jelly-home | phlpp: if you already installed a package from lenny, it might be too late though |
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| 22:12.23 | Azar | I walk to work, take cabs when going around... hey, I can even travel drunk |
| 22:12.33 | jelly-home | Randomist: we don't know how many updates does ubuntu get |
| 22:12.33 | phlpp | jelly-home: how to run pioneers then? |
| 22:12.46 | jelly-home | phlpp: backport it, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 22:12.50 | phlpp | can't get it because its in testing and when trying to build it on my own, i fail because of missing dependencies (to new!) |
| 22:12.56 | Azar | Nyle: kik the car, do like me: have beer with insurance money |
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| 22:13.03 | Nyle | nah |
| 22:13.19 | Nyle | I need to make a call from internet to landline in usa |
| 22:13.21 | Azar | heh I wasn't born in a car, so I don't miss it |
| 22:13.29 | Nyle | do you know of a phone that works under linux? |
| 22:13.35 | jelly-home | phlpp: well, you have two options then: fix the dependcies in the source package, or backport the dependencies too |
| 22:13.53 | Azar | Nyle: not me, I barely use my landline phone at home... answering machine does the jobs |
| 22:13.59 | De_Mon | good grief |
| 22:13.59 | De_Mon | Fetched 522kB in 1m2s (8362B/s) |
| 22:14.10 | De_Mon | these pdiffs seem to make things go a lot slower sometimes |
| 22:14.12 | abrotman | security.d.o ? |
| 22:14.13 | dutchfish | need to get some sleep, goodnight debian ... |
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| 22:15.57 | jelly-home | phlpp: that is, do apt-get source foo, then change foo-1.2.3/debian/control Build-Depends line to versions available in stable, and don't do apt-get build-dep foo, but install them manually (apt-get install libbar-dev libquux-dev ...) |
| 22:16.34 | phlpp | ok |
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| 22:17.16 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish got it |
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| 22:17.40 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish tripwire --update gave the wrong twr that didn't exsist yet so i change it with th -r command and voila |
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| 22:18.23 | ringo999 | hi. everytime i boot my laptop, the time is out of sync, even though the timezone is set correctly. what could be the reason, a bios issue? |
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| 22:18.55 | Ranpha1 | ringo999 check you bios if the time is correct |
| 22:19.13 | Asmooh | hmm the only problem i have left with the mailserver; that users that arnt login can send mail from the server, but i want that they need to ath |
| 22:19.15 | Asmooh | auth* |
| 22:19.17 | ringo999 | Ranpha1: i cant get into the bios, password protected :-( |
| 22:19.20 | hardcampa | which packages are I missing when I can't see the man pages for fopen, getline and such |
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| 22:19.27 | abrotman | manpages-dev |
| 22:19.31 | hardcampa | ah |
| 22:19.37 | hardcampa | butofcourse! |
| 22:19.40 | hardcampa | thanks |
| 22:19.43 | Ranpha1 | ringo999 on boot you can see the time in the bios screen |
| 22:19.44 | abrotman | yes .. very obvious :) |
| 22:20.37 | ringo999 | is that before the grub comes? i think its blocked, it just shows some HP screen (its an HP nc6400 NoteBook) |
| 22:20.57 | wols | Ranpha1: since when does a BIOS show current time? |
| 22:21.14 | wols | ringo999: hwclock --show |
| 22:21.43 | Ranpha1 | ringo999 well it's normal that the computer show a off time. And never said a bios show the correct time ....you could check it if the OS doesn't screwes up the time |
| 22:21.50 | ringo999 | wols: select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
| 22:22.01 | wols | ringo999: uname -a |
| 22:22.15 | ttick | okay, still trying to install vmware 4.0. Now, when I'm compiling the vmmon I get the following error: *** Inappropriate build environment : you wanted to use gcc version 4.2.3 while kernel attempts to use gcc version 4.1.3. How might I change one or the other so they agree? |
| 22:22.15 | luke | pipeline: I applied that pinning technique; but it's still keen on downloading everything to OpenOffice, not just GIMP and related packages |
| 22:22.26 | ringo999 | wols: Linux HUB70901ND 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:47:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:22.58 | ringo999 | wols: well the time is correct now. i dont know why. i think when it connected to my wlan |
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| 22:23.11 | abrotman | !info vmware-package lenny |
| 22:23.12 | ringo999 | wols: i dont know if some ntp is activated |
| 22:23.13 | ttick | the makefile suggests: *** For proper build you'll have to replace gcc-4.1 -m32 with symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc. Any suggestions on how to do that? |
| 22:23.13 | dpkg | vmware-package: (utility for building VMware Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is extra. Version: 0.16 (lenny), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 432 kB |
| 22:23.18 | abrotman | ttick: ^^ |
| 22:23.48 | ttick | abrotman: do you know if that package is compatable with VMWare Workstation 4.0 host image files? |
| 22:23.52 | wols | ringo999: hwclock --show --directisa |
| 22:23.59 | abrotman | ttick: no idea .. |
| 22:24.19 | wols | !tell ttick about vmware |
| 22:24.20 | ttick | abrtoman: I saw that package on an apt-cache search, but wasn't sure what it was really for. |
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| 22:25.17 | ringo999 | wols: 2007-10-29T02:24:48 CET -0.910017 seconds |
| 22:25.17 | abrotman | ttick: can't hurt to try it .. other than that .. you'd probably do better to ask #vmware |
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| 22:25.25 | ringo999 | wols: there you go, that looks strange. what do you make out of that? |
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| 22:25.54 | wols | ringo999: wrongly set BIOS time which is why you have the wrong time whenever you restart |
| 22:25.58 | ttick | abrotman: yeah, I posted a question about 2hrs ago there -- all that's happened since is a bunch of unanswered questions were asked. *makes you love the #debian* |
| 22:26.23 | ringo999 | wols: ok. so the only whay to change this is get into the bios... |
| 22:26.28 | abrotman | ttick: i'm sure |
| 22:26.28 | wols | ringo999: no |
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| 22:26.45 | ringo999 | wols: no? |
| 22:26.54 | wols | ttick: kernel modules and the kernel itself need to be compiled with the same version of gcc |
| 22:27.04 | wols | ringo999: hwclock can set the BIOS clock |
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| 22:27.16 | ringo999 | wols: alright, i will read the man |
| 22:27.26 | wols | --systohc |
| 22:27.27 | ringo999 | wols: is there a way to make it use of ntp? |
| 22:27.46 | wols | you set the system clock with ntp and then sync your BIOS one |
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| 22:28.57 | Laserl | hi |
| 22:29.01 | Laserl | about sudo |
| 22:29.03 | ringo999 | wolffc: cool it worked. awesome. thanks you wols! |
| 22:29.09 | Laserl | can I set something like this: |
| 22:29.18 | Laserl | Cmnd_Alias HPASMSHOW1 = /sbin/hpasmcli -s "show dimm" |
| 22:29.28 | Laserl | nagios ALL=NOPASSWD:HPASMSHOW1 |
| 22:29.30 | ringo999 | wols: thanks to you of course. |
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| 22:29.44 | Laserl | it doesn't seem to work |
| 22:29.55 | pipeline | luke: looks like you're just going to have to take the plunge. (Also, you have to apt-get update before pinning makes a difference, I think.) |
| 22:30.13 | Laserl | I don't want to give full access to hpasm |
| 22:31.02 | ttick | wols: so the default packages issued by Sid are gcc 4.1.3 instead of 4.2.3? |
| 22:31.16 | Ranpha1 | dutchfish still there? |
| 22:31.26 | luke | pipeline: Yeah. I updated / rebooted even, just to be double sure! :p to be honest, I'm happy with GNOME 2.14, and I don't use GIMP enough to warrant a 2.20 upgrade! Anyway, thanks for your help! That pinning will come in handy for sure! :D |
| 22:31.48 | ringo999 | step by step im getting my debian into shape. there are only a few more little things i need to figure out: 1. hybernate / suspend and resume with harddisk encryption 2. network settings using guessnet / wpasupplicant |
| 22:32.09 | pipeline | luke: I don't think sid has diverged enough from stable that you should run into any problems. Why not just upgrade? If you're using gnome it's just your desktop anyway :P |
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| 22:32.46 | pipeline | luke: I use sid on my work laptop on a normal basis. I'd sooner kiss a pig than use it on a server that I actually have to reliably patch and maintain, but a desktop's a desktop :) |
| 22:33.18 | pipeline | ringo999: network-manager takes care of wpasupplicant for me. I have no idea how to use it directly :P |
| 22:33.22 | ttick | wols: okay, remapped the link to gcc-4.1 and that got me passed that problem. Now on to another. |
| 22:33.25 | ringo999 | also, i have a server running on an old ibook g3. is there any shell command to turn off the monitor? |
| 22:33.39 | wAndyw78 | /etc/network/interfaces loads ndiswrapper and this freezes the system on boot. How can I disable that /etc/network/interfaces is loaded on startup? Any grub option? |
| 22:33.56 | ringo999 | pipeline: yeah, but i still want to know how it works for whenever I have not X running |
| 22:34.02 | luke | pipeline: Hmmm. Good call! :p lol - Ok...You've convinced me! :p |
| 22:35.41 | pipeline | ringo999: there's a CLI tool for network-manager |
| 22:35.55 | ringo999 | pipeline: what is that? |
| 22:36.02 | ringo999 | i will search |
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| 22:36.43 | ttick | !cc1plus |
| 22:36.43 | dpkg | If you get "cannot exec `cc1plus'", you're missing the C++ compiler. apt-get install build-essential. Please read the <FAQ>! |
| 22:37.05 | pipeline | ringo999: nm-util or something. It's in the base network manager package. dpkg -L, grep bin |
| 22:37.15 | ttick | build-essential is already the newest version. |
| 22:37.41 | ttick | !faq |
| 22:37.41 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC |
| 22:38.10 | pipeline | ttick: export CC= |
| 22:39.09 | k31th | anyone have a preseed file they could show me as an example? |
| 22:39.10 | ttick | pipeline: okay, I'll try that. |
| 22:39.32 | ttick | pipeline: still getting: gcc-4.1: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 22:40.10 | pipeline | ttick: Ahah. Package broken. apt-get --reinstall install g++-4.1 |
| 22:40.17 | pipeline | ttick: How did you manage to delete arbitrary files from g++ ? |
| 22:40.35 | ringo999 | pipeline: i will look at it tomorrow. time to sleep now. |
| 22:40.40 | pipeline | k31th: wiki |
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| 22:41.10 | ttick | pipeline: might this be because I rm /usr/bin/gcc (which was ln gcc-4.2) and made it ln gcc-4.1 gcc ? |
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| 22:41.47 | pipeline | ttick: uhh... that's possible. It may be that you have g++-4.2 but not g++-4.1 installed. |
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| 22:41.57 | ttick | pipeline: probably |
| 22:42.27 | pipeline | ttick: I expected unsetting the CC variable would fix things because you would end up using whichever g++ is the default. I didn't expect the default to be missing :) |
| 22:43.03 | ttick | pipeline: yeah, learning a bit in this exercise -- fumbling a lot. probably hosing my system permenently. |
| 22:43.26 | Ranpha1 | anyone know some tripwire ? |
| 22:43.34 | ttick | pipeline: then again, getting pretty far in this vmware thing. |
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| 22:47.35 | Asmooh | i wonder, why should i use apache 1.3 and not 2.x ? |
| 22:47.48 | abrotman | says who ? |
| 22:47.49 | Speckal | anyone know how to get acrobat reader on amd64? |
| 22:48.02 | abrotman | Speckal: maybe you should just reinstlal and use 32bit ? |
| 22:48.23 | Speckal | I won't give up just because adobe sucks |
| 22:48.40 | Asmooh | abrotman, some ppl think apache 1.3 is better, but i wonder why |
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| 22:49.00 | abrotman | Speckal: then don't use adobe .. use evince or kpdf or xpdf |
| 22:49.01 | Speckal | abrotman: besides, there have to be solutions for these problems. they're very common |
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| 22:49.17 | abrotman | Speckal: yeah .. it's called "Don't you binary only crap" |
| 22:49.20 | abrotman | don't use |
| 22:49.22 | ttick | heh, okay, got VMware 4.0 up. wow. what a journey. Thanks peeps. Now I just gotta figure out how to load the old host-images. |
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| 22:50.01 | shafire | hi |
| 22:50.04 | Speckal | abrotman: I remeber xpdf as being slow and quite rocky. don't know anything about evince though... |
| 22:50.18 | shafire | how to save my current iptables and restore it after a restart? |
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| 22:50.39 | pipeline | ttick: You shouldn't need g++ to build any of the vmware drivers. No C++ in-kernel. |
| 22:50.41 | Praktica | I always use xpdf it works fine for me.. |
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| 22:51.00 | pipeline | ttick: mucking around with the symlink doesn't mean very much.. that's what the CC and CXX environment variables are for. |
| 22:51.04 | Speckal | Praktica: it doesn't render nearly as smoothly as adobe :/ |
| 22:51.35 | Speckal | the only app I've seen pull that off is foxit reader. but they're linux binary is crap too |
| 22:51.35 | abrotman | !tell Speckal about amd64 |
| 22:51.37 | abrotman | !tell Speckal about chroot |
| 22:51.48 | pipeline | Speckal: kpdf |
| 22:52.49 | shafire | help =) |
| 22:53.00 | et | oh no |
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| 22:53.32 | shafire | ohh yes! |
| 22:53.37 | ttick | pipeline: the --reinstall install g++-4.1 fixed my compiler problem. |
| 22:53.49 | lrp | hello , how canmkdir automatically when i add an user ? |
| 22:53.49 | Praktica | aah, no maybe not. I'm sorry i got in in the middle of the conversation, but what I find nice about xpdf is that it runs whitout making the entire computer stop. It's ten years old. |
| 22:53.55 | Praktica | runing sarge. ; ) |
| 22:54.02 | lrp | any idea of what file i have to edit to make that automatic ? |
| 22:54.35 | \amethyst | lrp: how are you adding users? |
| 22:54.36 | abrotman | lrp: are oyu using useradd or adduser ? |
| 22:55.01 | lrp | useradd |
| 22:55.05 | abrotman | use adduser |
| 22:55.12 | lrp | adduser ? |
| 22:55.13 | lrp | mm |
| 22:55.27 | lrp | bash: adduser: command not found |
| 22:55.34 | abrotman | are you root? |
| 22:55.37 | lrp | yes |
| 22:55.40 | abrotman | are you on debian? |
| 22:55.48 | lrp | abrotman: nope |
| 22:55.53 | abrotman | you lose |
| 22:56.05 | abrotman | lrp: ask the channel for your OS |
| 22:56.08 | lrp | abrotman: i would love to but my boss dont allow me |
| 22:56.13 | lrp | abrotman: they ignore me |
| 22:56.19 | abrotman | lrp: then man useradd .. |
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| 22:56.26 | \amethyst | your boss allows you to use #debian but not #ubuntu or whatever? |
| 22:56.43 | lrp | abrotman: ok |
| 22:57.00 | abrotman | lrp: but really .. you sohuld ask the channel for your distro |
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| 22:57.49 | salvin | hi |
| 22:57.56 | utopia_ | how do you quit a man page ? CTRL + ? |
| 22:58.12 | abrotman | q |
| 22:58.13 | lrp | utopia_: just type q |
| 22:58.21 | salvin | why compiz package in lenny is only for gnome? |
| 22:58.34 | utopia_ | thanks :) |
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| 23:00.44 | shafire | how to save my current iptables and restore it after a restart? |
| 23:01.08 | phogg | shafire: write the iptabes invocations to a file |
| 23:01.14 | shafire | and then? |
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| 23:01.27 | stew | shafire: with iptables-save and iptables-restore |
| 23:01.30 | karmatronic | hi there |
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| 23:01.44 | stew | shafire: call iptables-restore from a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) |
| 23:01.57 | shafire | stew, thx |
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| 23:02.11 | Asmooh | anyone knows a way to add apache's virtualhosts in mysql ? with 2.x |
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| 23:04.22 | rmaj | hello people! |
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| 23:04.45 | obsethryl | haggz: problem fixed, patched my sysvinit as per stigge instructions |
| 23:04.57 | obsethryl | no more improper spindowns (amd64) |
| 23:05.00 | haggz | obsethryl: glad it all worked out |
| 23:05.37 | obsethryl | haggz: it is strange though, that this bug still remains in testing all this time |
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| 23:06.15 | obsethryl | anyway got to run, glad there is a solution despite it still requires to manually prepare the deb again |
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| 23:08.27 | karmatronic | any plan for gnome 2.20 in testing ? |
| 23:09.19 | abrotman | when it gets there ? |
| 23:09.28 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 23:09.32 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.20.0.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 435 kB, Installed size: 964 kB |
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| 23:11.43 | karmatronic | abrotman: gnome-panel doesnt mean gnome-sesion ... |
| 23:11.53 | abrotman | karmatronic: i'm aware of that |
| 23:12.04 | efaistos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.18 | abrotman | karmatronic: you can check all the others if you want |
| 23:12.31 | SmallR2002 | evening abrotman |
| 23:12.36 | abrotman | hi |
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| 23:12.41 | SmallR2002 | how's life? |
| 23:12.54 | abrotman | waiting for baseball :) |
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| 23:13.05 | dansushi | abrotman: sox fan? |
| 23:13.07 | karmatronic | abrotman: yeah, no gnome2.20 complete for the moment :( |
| 23:13.08 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:13.10 | dansushi | nice |
| 23:13.12 | dansushi | me too |
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| 23:13.27 | SmallR2002 | you're near chicago abrotman? |
| 23:13.33 | abrotman | SmallR2002: no .. near philly |
| 23:13.51 | dansushi | hence pa.comcast.net |
| 23:13.52 | karmatronic | dansushi: yeah sox is cool for manipulating wav files...i m sorry , i ll just leave ... |
| 23:13.55 | abrotman | karmatronic: there's a status page somewhere |
| 23:14.01 | Daveman | :) |
| 23:14.11 | SmallR2002 | some of us use proxies dansushi ;) |
| 23:14.19 | dansushi | yeah |
| 23:14.24 | dansushi | but he isn't |
| 23:14.30 | SmallR2002 | which is why i often appear to come from holland |
| 23:14.43 | SmallR2002 | admittedly wishful thinking :p |
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| 23:14.56 | abrotman | karmatronic: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.20-status.html |
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| 23:15.31 | abrotman | karmatronic: looks fairly close .. but that's just sid |
| 23:16.30 | karmatronic | abrotman: i l keep hoping :) |
| 23:16.41 | abrotman | karmatronic: you could help! :) |
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| 23:19.14 | Noeve | Hello, I'm having some problems with broken packages while trying to install Compiz-Fusion... Here's a pastebin of my attempt : http://pastebin.ca/753095 |
| 23:19.46 | efaistos | any idea ? |
| 23:19.48 | efaistos | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.39 | abrotman | gstreamer plugins perhaps |
| 23:21.05 | abrotman | Noeve: did you run aptitude update first ? |
| 23:21.12 | karmatronic | Noeve: what version fo debian are you running ? |
| 23:21.15 | Noeve | abrotman, I did. |
| 23:21.18 | Noeve | karmatronic, Etch. |
| 23:21.20 | abrotman | Noeve: also make sure your mirror isn't out of date |
| 23:21.26 | abrotman | there's no compiz fusion in etch |
| 23:21.29 | nvz | is the a limit on how manage sheets I can have on an OOo calc document? |
| 23:21.32 | tarzeau | does someone know if the r packages mclust and ade4 exist in debian, and if so what their name is? |
| 23:21.35 | Noeve | abrotman, I don't believe it is. |
| 23:21.44 | efaistos | abrotman: I installed some ... |
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| 23:22.06 | karmatronic | Noeve: you may have a line like this in your sources.list |
| 23:22.09 | karmatronic | Noeve: deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/ ./ |
| 23:22.22 | Noeve | karmatronic, yes I do. Should I be using another one ? |
| 23:22.24 | efaistos | but dont know which one to install ... |
| 23:22.48 | karmatronic | Noeve: no it should be enough,but adding that to etch and not to lenny .... |
| 23:22.59 | Noeve | karmatronic, bad idea ? |
| 23:23.01 | karmatronic | Noeve: had you a previsou release of compiz or beryl ? |
| 23:23.32 | karmatronic | Noeve: you should first get rid of those substitutes and then apt-get compiz-fusion |
| 23:23.41 | Noeve | karmatronic, I attempted to install Beryl today and failed as their Wiki is down and pretty crap, and I tried installing Compiz-Fusion from source before someone pointed out that this compiz-fusion-all package was available. |
| 23:24.05 | karmatronic | Noeve: yeah be sure to remove all the beryl stuff first |
| 23:24.10 | Noeve | karmatronic, I've tried aptitude remove --purge for that package list but they won't uninstall. They don't want to leave :P |
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| 23:24.43 | karmatronic | Noeve: well you can always dpkg -r individually i guess |
| 23:24.59 | Asmooh | hm |
| 23:25.00 | ertg | Hi! I' ve a directory with a lots of file. How can i make a list from the first 100 files of it _quickly_? |
| 23:25.04 | Asmooh | where is the mysql/include dir? |
| 23:25.15 | tarzeau | ertg: ls -1 | head -100 ? |
| 23:25.42 | Noeve | karmatronic, I get "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove compiz-fusion-plugins-extra which isn't installed." |
| 23:25.57 | ertg | tarzeau: That will not be fast. I need a quick way. |
| 23:26.05 | tarzeau | ertg: not fast enough? |
| 23:26.14 | tarzeau | ertg: maybe with find then | head -100 ? |
| 23:26.18 | karmatronic | Noeve: you re tying to remove a not-installed package |
| 23:26.20 | ertg | tarzeau: yes, not fast enough. |
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| 23:26.34 | \amethyst | eroyf: what do you mean by "first"? |
| 23:26.37 | tarzeau | ertg: why needs it be faster than that? |
| 23:26.44 | ertg | find is the same, it takes more than 20 minutes. |
| 23:27.01 | tarzeau | ertg: how many files do you have? |
| 23:27.03 | Noeve | karmatronic, I'm just trying to remove these broken packages so I can install Compiz-Fusion. I don't really know how to go about doing that :) |
| 23:27.08 | \amethyst | ertg: what do you mean by "first 100 files"? |
| 23:27.38 | ertg | I need just some filenames (don' t which ones) from that directory with the permissions. |
| 23:27.40 | karmatronic | Noeve: have you removed all of them ? |
| 23:27.47 | ertg | The directory has got >10.000.000 files. |
| 23:27.57 | \amethyst | ertg: try ls -U | head -100 |
| 23:27.59 | tarzeau | ertg: hahaha, you're serious right? |
| 23:28.01 | radius | can anyone recommend an app that actually works with the new ipod nano (using lenny) please and thanks |
| 23:28.02 | \amethyst | err, head -n 100 |
| 23:28.08 | Noeve | karmatronic, no, I don't know how to. I've tried aptitude remove --purge, and your suggestion of dpkg -r gave me the error I sent you. |
| 23:28.27 | tarzeau | ertg: ext2/3? |
| 23:28.37 | ertg | tarzeau: ext3. |
| 23:28.42 | karmatronic | Noeve: try to dpkg -r individually not all the packages at once |
| 23:29.00 | karmatronic | radius: gtkpod |
| 23:30.03 | Noeve | karmatronic, same error on all of them. |
| 23:30.12 | radius | karmatronic, do i have to do anything special - i copy files over using gtkpod - but the nano is still showing no music no vid |
| 23:31.08 | karmatronic | radius: is the media mounted ? |
| 23:31.12 | radius | yes |
| 23:31.50 | karmatronic | radius: did you synchronize before unmounting ? |
| 23:31.51 | radius | karmatronic, fortunately i don't have any probs with my sandisk e280 |
| 23:31.59 | radius | this is my daughters ipod |
| 23:32.08 | abrotman | ertg: echo * maybe |
| 23:32.13 | radius | karmatronic, let me try one more time |
| 23:32.46 | karmatronic | radius: i screwed my nano s pod and my wife is convinced damn linux is guilty :) |
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| 23:33.02 | radius | karmatronic, i'm convinced it's the ipod |
| 23:33.12 | radius | the sandisk never gives me grief |
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| 23:35.49 | Asmooh | anyone knows in wish package is mysql_config ? |
| 23:37.05 | \amethyst | Asmooh: libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 23:37.12 | Asmooh | ah thx |
| 23:37.14 | \amethyst | Asmooh: What are you trying to compile? |
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| 23:37.25 | Asmooh | nah, compile a module that need it |
| 23:38.37 | abrotman | !tell Asmooh about search |
| 23:38.46 | Asmooh | already did on google |
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| 23:39.26 | flyinprogramer | can someone help me setup cgi and cgi with no headers in debian, i've searched the web and can't find a tutorial, and i just can't figure out how to get it working |
| 23:40.06 | Noeve | Hello, I'm having some problems with broken packages while trying to install Compiz-Fusion... Here's a pastebin of my attempt : http://pastebin.ca/753095 |
| 23:40.21 | ertg | Hi! Does anybody has got idea why there is no svgatextmode package for etch on amd64 platform? |
| 23:40.26 | flyinprogramer | so far i have edited /etc/apache2/mods-available/mime.conf so that AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl is uncommented |
| 23:40.31 | flyinprogramer | then i restarted apache |
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| 23:41.17 | ertg | (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=svgatextmode&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all) |
| 23:41.29 | tarzeau | ertg: because it wasn't built (or ported)? |
| 23:42.03 | tarzeau | ertg: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/svgatextmode/svgatextmode_1.9-19/changelog |
| 23:42.10 | tarzeau | ertg: maybe something with -18 ? |
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| 23:43.06 | flyinprogramer | but when i try and go to http://webserver/cgi-bin/nph-proxy.cgi, i get this as an apache error: No such file or directory: exec of '/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nph-proxy.cgi' failed |
| 23:43.06 | flyinprogramer | , but the file is in that folder, and chomded 777 |
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| 23:46.09 | ertg | tarzeau: what is "minus 18"? |
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| 23:46.21 | \amethyst | ertg: debian version 18 |
| 23:46.34 | \amethyst | ertg: I think http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434068 may be relevant |
| 23:46.36 | ertg | 18? |
| 23:46.37 | Michael9187 | Can someone tell me how to setup an online source for aptitude?? |
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| 23:46.58 | abrotman | !sources.list |
| 23:46.58 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 23:47.05 | tarzeau | ertg: the changelog entry |
| 23:47.09 | \amethyst | ertg: when etch was released, apparently it was blacklisted from non-i386 archs |
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| 23:48.07 | richard | hey, is there a way to force debian to hold back a particular package? |
| 23:48.15 | richard | i've replaced the binaries on it |
| 23:48.16 | flyinprogramer | why do i get Permission denied: exec of '/usr/lib/cgi-bin/textclock.pl' failed in my apache error log when i try and execute a perl script? |
| 23:48.21 | richard | and i don't want it to get updated in the future |
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| 23:48.44 | eleftherios | I have exim4 on etch working fine with virtual domains yet not accepting for the real domain!! It gives unroutable address errors. Any ideas please? |
| 23:48.44 | flyinprogramer | ahhh wrong chmod |
| 23:48.48 | \amethyst | richard: aptitude hold packagename |
| 23:49.01 | ttick | how do I change the version of gcc I want an installer to use, w/o reassigning the link? |
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| 23:49.21 | abrotman | !hold |
| 23:49.21 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections' or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" because they require packages that are not currently (or tri |
| 23:49.29 | richard | when i do that it tries to uninstall a bunch of stuff? |
| 23:49.37 | richard | such as java compilers? |
| 23:49.40 | richard | and sound? |
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| 23:50.42 | ttick | I guess the CC variable, but 4.1.3 wasn't a valid setting. gcc-4.1.3? |
| 23:51.05 | \amethyst | ttick: gcc-4.1 |
| 23:51.28 | ttick | \amethyst: thanks |
| 23:51.40 | \amethyst | ttick: debian doesn't support co-installing multiple patchlevels of the same gcc version (such as 4.1.2 and 4.1.3) |
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