| 00:00.00 | jakub_ | same as in computers :-) |
| 00:00.01 | uski | i think so, but i'm not a native English speaker |
| 00:00.04 | dondelelcaro | jakub_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_AC_power_plugs_and_sockets will help you out if you're lost |
| 00:00.05 | explody | dondelelcaro: yes I just found it |
| 00:00.12 | jakub_ | thank you very much all |
| 00:00.18 | uski | haha wikipedia even has a page for this |
| 00:00.22 | explody | dondelelcaro: thanks though :) |
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| 00:00.55 | K`zan | What does debian use in place of: /etc/modules.d/alsa |
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| 00:01.09 | jakub_ | you dont have PE ? |
| 00:01.12 | K`zan | Want to add the BT system as a second sound card... |
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| 00:01.39 | uski | K`zan, you mean bluetooth ? |
| 00:01.49 | jakub_ | eheheh :D |
| 00:01.54 | jakub_ | you have gay sockets :-D |
| 00:02.10 | K`zan | uski: Yes |
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| 00:02.26 | jakub_ | we have lesbian |
| 00:02.27 | jakub_ | :-D |
| 00:02.36 | K`zan | uski: Want tvtime to output to the BT headset. |
| 00:02.46 | uski | jakub_, why do you say that ? i find their sockets better because you can't reverse the neutral and the hot wire |
| 00:03.19 | sarixe | ack, where's update-alternatives now? |
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| 00:03.23 | uski | K`zan, i found something explaining this for ubuntu in their wiki, you can *probably* use their instructions for debian |
| 00:03.30 | uski | (at your own risks... as usual ;)) |
| 00:03.40 | K`zan | uski: :-) of course, thanks! |
| 00:03.45 | jakub_ | uski |
| 00:03.50 | jakub_ | it`s not sure |
| 00:04.02 | jakub_ | neutral you think negative wire ? |
| 00:04.07 | jakub_ | in our language - zero wire |
| 00:04.31 | jakub_ | i think it doesn`t matter if you change wires |
| 00:04.39 | dondelelcaro | jakub_: it does in some applications |
| 00:04.56 | uski | jakub_, it does matter, especially for security purposes if you use a switch that only cuts the hot wire |
| 00:05.00 | jakub_ | every part of electric shit :-) i dont know how to say it - is zdroj |
| 00:05.01 | jakub_ | kurec |
| 00:05.16 | jakub_ | power supply = zdroj |
| 00:05.39 | jakub_ | cut the hot wire ? |
| 00:05.41 | jakub_ | wtf ?:-) |
| 00:05.53 | jakub_ | ah you think switch the light ? |
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| 00:06.04 | dondelelcaro | jakub_: it's the wire that is actually at voltage different from earth. |
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| 00:06.14 | uski | omg ! the out of the box debian kernel doesn't support in-kernel crypto ciphers, i need aes256 for my old cryptoloop encrypted hard drive... how can i install that ? |
| 00:06.16 | jakub_ | ah |
| 00:06.42 | jakub_ | yes you are sure |
| 00:06.44 | dondelelcaro | jakub_: so called hot because it's the dangerous one. |
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| 00:06.51 | uski | dondelelcaro, sometimes the neutral also has a slightly different voltage than the earth (just kidding ;)) |
| 00:06.52 | jakub_ | and how is it going in usa ? |
| 00:06.58 | jakub_ | it`s the same |
| 00:07.01 | dondelelcaro | uski: well, it does quite often |
| 00:07.01 | jakub_ | i think 110 V is better |
| 00:07.17 | jakub_ | but if you have more Hz |
| 00:07.18 | jakub_ | it`s the same |
| 00:07.21 | uski | jakub_, i don't know about 110V, but 60Hz is indeed better, less risquy |
| 00:07.22 | uski | what ? |
| 00:07.36 | jakub_ | eeeh |
| 00:07.39 | jakub_ | i said it wrong |
| 00:07.46 | jakub_ | it dont depends on hz :-) |
| 00:08.09 | dondelelcaro | we actually have 220V too; but it's slightly more unusual. |
| 00:08.11 | jakub_ | i`m 17 i`ve just learning :-) |
| 00:08.14 | Spiritus55 | Hey, how do you add a username to the sudo list? |
| 00:08.31 | dondelelcaro | Spiritus55: visudo; to edit /etc/sudoers |
| 00:08.32 | jakub_ | Spiritus55: /etc/sudoers |
| 00:08.39 | jakub_ | :D |
| 00:08.47 | Spiritus55 | Just add a username to it? |
| 00:08.49 | jakub_ | i love debian |
| 00:08.56 | uski | Spiritus55, copy the syntax already present |
| 00:09.01 | jakub_ | yes |
| 00:09.04 | Spiritus55 | Like: spiritus55 ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 00:09.06 | jakub_ | if you want to allow some app |
| 00:09.08 | jakub_ | use |
| 00:09.15 | fas3r | good night |
| 00:09.19 | uski | nite |
| 00:09.21 | jakub_ | <username> ALL = /sbin/....,/.f.f.f.f.dfsfsdfsfdsf,ETCETC, |
| 00:09.28 | jakub_ | hmm |
| 00:09.43 | jakub_ | 4400 |
| 00:09.50 | jakub_ | who is looking to 4400 ? |
| 00:09.57 | jakub_ | ehm watching :-) |
| 00:10.08 | uski | i prefer House MD; he's like me somehow |
| 00:10.11 | Spiritus55 | All that? |
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| 00:10.27 | Spiritus55 | What is in /sbin/? |
| 00:10.29 | jelly-home | jakub_: watched up to 4x06 |
| 00:10.42 | jakub_ | i`m now 4x10 |
| 00:10.55 | uski | Spiritus55, he just gave you an example; all that you need is spiritus55 ALL=(ALL) ALL |
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| 00:11.09 | Spiritus55 | I added that, yet it still asks for password. |
| 00:11.11 | uski | Spiritus55, it's like /bin but for "system adminitration" binaries used by root |
| 00:11.12 | K`zan | uski: Any idea what the equivalent in deb is for this: Open System -> Preferences -> Sessions and select "startup Programs" |
| 00:11.13 | jakub_ | sudo = ubuntu |
| 00:11.14 | jelly-home | jakub_: I've taken a break and tried... House :-) |
| 00:11.16 | jakub_ | ubuntu = kubuntu |
| 00:11.18 | uski | Spiritus55, it always asks for a password |
| 00:11.22 | Spiritus55 | And? |
| 00:11.24 | jakub_ | kubuntu = linspire |
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| 00:11.26 | Spiritus55 | Even if you use sudo? |
| 00:11.31 | jakub_ | linspire = windows |
| 00:11.34 | jakub_ | windows = microsoft |
| 00:11.43 | jakub_ | microsoft = (you think <3) : |
| 00:11.44 | dondelelcaro | Spiritus55: it'll still ask you for a password the first time, then not for times subsequent. |
| 00:11.45 | Spiritus55 | Hey, even if you use sudo, it still asks for password? |
| 00:11.54 | jakub_ | yes |
| 00:11.58 | jakub_ | but once time |
| 00:11.58 | dondelelcaro | Spiritus55: until the timer times out, then it'll ask you again. |
| 00:11.58 | onats | i have a problem with my screen resolution... the maximum resolution im getting is only 640x480... i checked xorg.conf, and it already lists the other screen resolutions ther.e.. |
| 00:12.01 | uski | Spiritus55, it asks for your password, but only once |
| 00:12.03 | jakub_ | and for your password |
| 00:12.03 | Spiritus55 | But, I put the root password in, then it still says invalid. |
| 00:12.04 | onats | can anyone help me? |
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| 00:12.10 | uski | yes, you need to put your password |
| 00:12.11 | dondelelcaro | Spiritus55: it's your user's password, not root's. |
| 00:12.16 | uski | unlike with su which requires the root password |
| 00:12.21 | jakub_ | Spiritus55: Your user password |
| 00:12.29 | Spiritus55 | My personal password? |
| 00:12.31 | uski | yea |
| 00:12.32 | jakub_ | onats: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 00:12.36 | Spiritus55 | Let me try that. |
| 00:12.36 | uski | the password of user "spiritus55" |
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| 00:12.42 | uski | sure, try ;) |
| 00:12.50 | Spiritus55 | It worked! |
| 00:12.54 | Spiritus55 | Thanks guys. |
| 00:12.54 | jakub_ | YEAH |
| 00:12.54 | jakub_ | :-D |
| 00:12.55 | uski | no, really ? xD |
| 00:13.05 | jakub_ | uski: you are very good Debian |
| 00:13.05 | Spiritus55 | Yeah, it really did. |
| 00:13.05 | jakub_ | :-) |
| 00:13.14 | onats | jakub, yup, i did that already... all settings seemed to be correct. it prompted for the resolutions to include... |
| 00:13.24 | jakub_ | yeah |
| 00:13.34 | jakub_ | i`m very lucky now because my flash card works |
| 00:13.36 | jakub_ | :-) |
| 00:13.40 | jakub_ | fucki`n windows |
| 00:13.52 | uski | onats, check your xorg.0.log, sometimes it explains why it doesn't want a higher resolution |
| 00:13.54 | onats | but in X, when i go system->preferences->screen resolution, i only see 640x480... |
| 00:13.56 | K`zan | jakub_: You are too kind :) |
| 00:13.58 | uski | also try ctrl+alt++ |
| 00:14.01 | ponyofdeath | hi, how can i find out who is using an nfs server? |
| 00:14.06 | Spiritus55 | Hey, onats. |
| 00:14.10 | onats | uski, ok wait... checking.. |
| 00:14.13 | Spiritus55 | Do you have two lines going down your screen? |
| 00:14.18 | Spiritus55 | Or, what is the problem? |
| 00:14.27 | uski | onats: it's in /var/log |
| 00:14.27 | Spiritus55 | Because it sounds exactly like what I JUST solved. |
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| 00:14.45 | onats | hi spiritus, i get only 640x480 resolution in X |
| 00:14.47 | jakub_ | K`zan: why :) |
| 00:14.56 | jakub_ | onats: TRY dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 00:15.09 | jakub_ | onats: in monitor mode check ADVANCED |
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| 00:15.17 | jakub_ | onats: ehm in monitor section |
| 00:15.18 | jakub_ | :-) |
| 00:15.23 | Spiritus55 | Oh, you have to do the xorg configure command. |
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| 00:15.30 | Spiritus55 | I don't even know what it is, but it's really long. |
| 00:15.36 | jelly-home | !drxx |
| 00:15.36 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 00:15.41 | jakub_ | Spiritus55: i said it to him |
| 00:15.42 | jelly-home | that one |
| 00:15.44 | Spiritus55 | that one. |
| 00:16.01 | jakub_ | :-D |
| 00:16.08 | jakub_ | i just said it to him !! :-) |
| 00:16.11 | Spiritus55 | If he would do that and go almost to the very end, he can change his screen resolution from there. |
| 00:16.25 | Spiritus55 | It's what I just had to do. |
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| 00:16.28 | Spiritus55 | And guess what guys!?!?! |
| 00:16.33 | Spiritus55 | I installed debian yesterday! |
| 00:16.36 | Spiritus55 | I love it. |
| 00:16.38 | jakub_ | yeah |
| 00:16.39 | jakub_ | we all |
| 00:16.57 | jakub_ | debian is easy |
| 00:16.58 | jakub_ | :-) |
| 00:16.58 | protoloc0 | how can i change the linux console resolution, i dont use X.. |
| 00:17.14 | jakub_ | you must install kernel support ? |
| 00:17.17 | enouf | protoloc0: vga=791 for 1024x768 |
| 00:17.29 | karsten | protoloc0: At boot time, with vga=<value>, or using a tool such as svgatextmode. |
| 00:17.29 | enouf | kernel param appended |
| 00:17.33 | jakub_ | yeah |
| 00:17.40 | karsten | protoloc0: There's also a tool that sets console fb values. |
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| 00:17.50 | karsten | protoloc0: I think. |
| 00:17.54 | jakub_ | enouf: what param for 1280x1024 ? |
| 00:17.54 | protoloc0 | thanks |
| 00:17.56 | jakub_ | pls |
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| 00:18.13 | enouf | protoloc0: no prob, more info http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html |
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| 00:18.35 | protoloc0 | we have set at boot time.. vga=795, it workks but just in the boot time... and not in the log in.. |
| 00:18.35 | enouf | jakub_: it's in the URL, just convert hex to decimal, but 794, iirc |
| 00:18.48 | jakub_ | thx |
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| 00:19.20 | uski | god bless the guys who created LUKS... i have a cryptoloop encrypted hard drive and i can't mount it because i can't remember the settings i used for encryption (and don't call me stupid even if i deserve it) |
| 00:19.25 | karsten | protoloc0: Are you setting the system console font anywhere? Where in the boot process does the console resolution change? |
| 00:19.47 | enouf | jakub_: that's 16bit too (forgot to mention that), so, adjust accordingly |
| 00:19.48 | karsten | uski: The good news is ... |
| 00:19.58 | karsten | uski: ... your data's secure. |
| 00:20.17 | enouf | hehe |
| 00:20.19 | protoloc0 | karsten, very shortly before the log is displayed |
| 00:20.28 | uski | karsten, seems so ;) i'll eventually find the good combination of parameters, but it'll immadiately convert the drive to luks afterwards :) |
| 00:20.34 | protoloc0 | karsten, very shortly before the login is displayed |
| 00:20.41 | enouf | mine glitches right as kernel handoff takes place |
| 00:20.49 | enouf | oh, not mine |
| 00:22.41 | protoloc0 | karsten, i didnt find any svgatextmode package |
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| 00:23.03 | onats | what's the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates? |
| 00:23.14 | uski | karsten, FS mounted :D (err.. why do i tell... you probably don't mind :)) |
| 00:23.15 | karsten | !info svgatextmode |
| 00:23.22 | dpkg | svgatextmode: (enable higher resolution text modes), section admin, is extra. Version: 1.9-18 (sid), Packaged size: 338 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
| 00:23.29 | onats | the monitor i have supports 30-85 horizontal, and 50-160 vertical... |
| 00:23.41 | K`zan | after two days of this my head hurts, I'll look into bluetooth getting alsa output later. |
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| 00:26.50 | Spiritus55 | How do I run wine? |
| 00:27.06 | uski | Spiritus55, alt+f2 then wine then enter |
| 00:27.07 | Spiritus55 | Is there a control panel, or does it run only when it's needed? |
| 00:27.12 | uski | oops |
| 00:27.19 | uski | forget what i said, i'm tired........ |
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| 00:29.12 | enouf | Spiritus55: maybe try #winehq , not many here use wine , i'd think |
| 00:29.33 | Spiritus55 | Ok. |
| 00:29.36 | Spiritus55 | I got it working. |
| 00:29.38 | Spiritus55 | Or, runing. |
| 00:29.55 | enouf | or just read the man page{s}, and look in /usr/share/doc |
| 00:30.11 | uski | any idea of a way to benchmark the reading/writing speeds of a harddrive ? without hdparm as i'm writing through a cryptoloop and i want to see the global throughoutput of the system |
| 00:30.26 | Spiritus55 | Hey, how do you get the task bar at the bottom of the screen like this guy has? |
| 00:30.26 | enouf | !info bonnie++ |
| 00:30.28 | dpkg | bonnie++: (Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.03a+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 00:30.32 | Spiritus55 | Hold on, I'll link you. |
| 00:30.40 | Spiritus55 | http://debian-np.alioth.debian.org/debian-np-screenshot-2003-11-27-1.jpg |
| 00:30.42 | protoloc0 | karsten, i dont know why is not in my apt sources... |
| 00:30.47 | Spiritus55 | Look at the bottom of the screen. |
| 00:30.50 | protoloc0 | the svgatextmode |
| 00:31.10 | enouf | Spiritus55: taskbar? nice .. called panel or kicker maybe |
| 00:31.16 | uski | thanks enouf |
| 00:31.22 | enouf | np |
| 00:31.33 | Spiritus55 | panel. |
| 00:31.49 | Spiritus55 | Yeah, how to get it enouf? |
| 00:31.52 | enouf | Spiritus55: which DE? |
| 00:32.04 | Spiritus55 | GNOME. |
| 00:32.07 | enouf | Spiritus55: i just drag and drop |
| 00:32.13 | Spiritus55 | ? |
| 00:32.14 | enouf | Spiritus55: on kde |
| 00:32.21 | Spiritus55 | Oh, well I'm sure GNOME is different. |
| 00:32.29 | enouf | just like wintendo |
| 00:32.38 | enouf | not really ;-P |
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| 00:33.03 | enouf | Spiritus55: mine's vertical, along the right side |
| 00:33.13 | Spiritus55 | ??? |
| 00:33.15 | Spiritus55 | I want! |
| 00:33.33 | enouf | Spiritus55: clcik any blank area, and drag it over there |
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| 00:33.54 | enouf | unless your DE has it 'locked' |
| 00:34.13 | enouf | in which case, you're on you own :-P |
| 00:34.26 | Spiritus55 | I doubt that GNOME has it locked. |
| 00:34.30 | Spiritus55 | I've seen it before. |
| 00:34.55 | Spiritus55 | Just don't know how they do it. |
| 00:35.14 | enouf | try irc.gnome.org |
| 00:35.22 | Spiritus55 | That exists? |
| 00:35.25 | enouf | (iirc) |
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| 00:36.48 | enouf | wow - heh 57 F here in suburbia NY |
| 00:37.02 | enouf | nyc metro area |
| 00:37.17 | uski | it's cold isn't it ? (i'm only familiar with °C, not °F) |
| 00:37.20 | abarbaccia | anybody here have experience with making deb packages. i want to make a package that automatically installs an xorg.conf file and backs up an old one for a friend who would probably kill his install if it were any other way |
| 00:37.41 | enouf | it's chilly for August , yes ;-) |
| 00:37.43 | uski | abarbaccia, your best bet is to make a script to do that... |
| 00:37.45 | mark_s | Hi all, I am looking for an small document managment software which uses mysql. Can you help. So far I found docman, but it offers little search options. |
| 00:37.50 | enouf | but i like it ;-) |
| 00:37.59 | uski | abarbaccia, that downloads the new xorg.conf using wget |
| 00:38.00 | abarbaccia | uski: but if its a package and the resolution doesn't work he can just reverse it |
| 00:38.08 | uski | hmm yuea |
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| 00:39.03 | enouf | abarbaccia: easier to teach them init 1 and the mv command |
| 00:39.25 | abarbaccia | enouf: i agree, but i also want to learn how to make a package |
| 00:39.31 | enouf | abarbaccia: ahh |
| 00:39.38 | abarbaccia | yeah i know, tough situation right? |
| 00:39.42 | enouf | abarbaccia: /msg dpkg maint-guide |
| 00:39.52 | enouf | abarbaccia: /msg dpkg dpkg-buildpackage |
| 00:39.54 | enouf | iirc |
| 00:40.21 | DrMitch | anyone experience any problems while trying to open up mythfrontend today after aptitude dist-update |
| 00:40.21 | DrMitch | ? |
| 00:40.28 | enouf | abarbaccia: /msg dpkg build-essential |
| 00:40.59 | enouf | abarbaccia: man apt-get see build-dep otption |
| 00:41.23 | enouf | s/option |
| 00:42.16 | enouf | abarbaccia: i also suggest reading over the debian reference |
| 00:42.29 | abarbaccia | enouf: that's what i was doing |
| 00:42.43 | abarbaccia | so i created a makefile - and in it there were directions on both install and clean |
| 00:42.50 | abarbaccia | but i dont kno how to do that with a package |
| 00:42.54 | enouf | ahh, apt howto also ;-) |
| 00:43.35 | Spiritus55 | Hey, you guys know how to set up desktops? |
| 00:43.39 | Spiritus55 | Lemme elaborate. |
| 00:43.43 | Spiritus55 | I want something like this? |
| 00:43.45 | Spiritus55 | :* |
| 00:43.47 | Spiritus55 | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=1418442205407dc8caf3ad8&m=screen |
| 00:43.48 | enouf | man dpkg<tab><tab> for some real fun ;-) |
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| 00:44.14 | abarbaccia | wh y would you ever want something like that |
| 00:44.22 | Spiritus55 | Not like that. |
| 00:44.27 | Spiritus55 | Wiat. |
| 00:44.30 | Spiritus55 | Wait* |
| 00:44.31 | quad3d | is that windows |
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| 00:44.44 | Spiritus55 | Just that little panel. |
| 00:45.00 | Spiritus55 | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=108143843244db90bdd312d&m=screen |
| 00:45.05 | Spiritus55 | That little panel like that. |
| 00:45.21 | Spiritus55 | I promise. |
| 00:45.27 | Spiritus55 | It's totally pr0n. |
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| 00:46.07 | qiyong | how to add locales? |
| 00:46.09 | Spiritus55 | Anyone know how to pull that off? |
| 00:46.11 | qiyong | !locales |
| 00:46.11 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 00:46.15 | enouf | !pony karsten |
| 00:46.45 | Spiritus55 | dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 00:47.11 | enouf | as root/sudo/su |
| 00:47.29 | enouf | how'd you reconfigure X lol |
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| 00:48.33 | drmitch | is there a way to UNDO a recent aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
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| 00:49.00 | enouf | heh |
| 00:49.09 | uski | dist-downgrade ? just kidding :) |
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| 00:49.37 | drmitch | cause i just upgraded this morning and now mythfrontend crashes X when i try to start it |
| 00:49.39 | uski | unfortunately it seems that i killed all the apt experts with my stupid questions one hour ago |
| 00:50.22 | drmitch | log says: Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c8631], 1: /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 [0xb7d55898] |
| 00:50.34 | drmitch | then Fatal server error: |
| 00:50.34 | drmitch | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
| 00:50.44 | jetscreamer | why yes of course debian has a downgrade option |
| 00:50.48 | jetscreamer | !downgrade |
| 00:50.48 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 00:51.14 | jetscreamer | oh i forgot the option |
| 00:51.24 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 00:51.24 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install |
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| 00:52.41 | enouf | that wouldn't help after a dist-upgrade without prior saving of the list |
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| 00:54.58 | blazemonger | can debian stable be updated to sid? |
| 00:55.05 | snadge | !locales |
| 00:55.05 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 00:55.20 | snadge | i love that bot ;) |
| 00:55.25 | onats | the screen refresh rate is stuck with 85Hz.... how do i change this? |
| 00:56.05 | enouf | blazemonger: yes, not recommended .. use testing |
| 00:56.16 | enouf | !sid |
| 00:56.16 | dpkg | the <unstable> or <thermite> version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 00:56.17 | blazemonger | i cant find a snapshot of testing netinst |
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| 00:56.39 | enouf | !di |
| 00:56.40 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 00:56.46 | dserban | Woo! Etch! |
| 00:57.26 | blazemonger | i cant find a snapshot of etch |
| 00:57.29 | blazemonger | where can i find it |
| 00:58.07 | enouf | onats: /msg dpkg drxx and play with your DE settings and/or monitor's OSD/OSM settings |
| 00:58.38 | enouf | !confuse bla |
| 00:58.38 | dpkg | Yes, them are your hamster yesterday, bla? trousers of the democracy of mongolia with extra ham |
| 00:58.43 | enouf | !confuse blazemonger |
| 00:58.43 | dpkg | Yes, what are our badger yesterday, blazemonger? wellies of the republic of mongolia with extra cheese |
| 00:58.48 | enouf | :-P |
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| 00:59.35 | onats | enouf, what does the drxx stand for? |
| 00:59.51 | enouf | !tias |
| 00:59.51 | dpkg | i guess tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first |
| 01:00.10 | onats | !drxx |
| 01:00.10 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 01:00.37 | piecesandbits | blazemonger, just go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change from stable to testing then apt-get update apt-get upgrade |
| 01:00.40 | enouf | !tell onats -about selftell |
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| 01:01.05 | Spiritus55 | Hey, did anyone ever figure out how I would do the locale app thing? |
| 01:01.09 | Spiritus55 | I mean the panel? |
| 01:01.18 | enouf | !etch->testing |
| 01:01.24 | enouf | !etch->lenny |
| 01:01.24 | dpkg | First, see <apt-listbugs>. Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade |
| 01:01.30 | uski | what was the file with the dmesg of the bootup messages ? |
| 01:01.38 | uski | i can't find it anymore, we were speaking of this one hour ago ! |
| 01:01.44 | Spiritus55 | enouf: how do I set up the panels? |
| 01:01.47 | uski | maybe someone remembers |
| 01:01.53 | enouf | uski: kernel buffer |
| 01:02.05 | enouf | uski: see /var/log/messages |
| 01:02.09 | uski | well, "dmesg" doesn't show the messages anymore (buffer too small ?) |
| 01:02.17 | uski | hmmm yea you're right, the messages should be there... |
| 01:02.18 | uski | ty |
| 01:02.29 | enouf | uski: see /var/log/kern.log and syslogd |
| 01:02.43 | blazemonger | where can i find the latest snapshot of testing |
| 01:02.46 | blazemonger | i want to use sid |
| 01:02.46 | enouf | !bootlog |
| 01:02.46 | dpkg | /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
| 01:03.00 | Spiritus55 | I tried dpkg reconfigure locales |
| 01:03.01 | enouf | !break blazemonger |
| 01:03.02 | Spiritus55 | And I got. |
| 01:03.15 | Spiritus55 | dpkg: need an action option |
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| 01:03.23 | jetscreamer | you forgot the - |
| 01:03.28 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:03.32 | blazemonger | and ubu |
| 01:03.33 | uski | !break uski |
| 01:03.34 | jetscreamer | not 2 words |
| 01:03.40 | blazemonger | why are my agp devices being put into 1.x mode |
| 01:03.43 | Spiritus55 | What? |
| 01:03.46 | Spiritus55 | Tell me the whole command. |
| 01:03.48 | uski | what's this command for ? !break |
| 01:03.49 | blazemonger | its a agp 3.x device on a mobo that supports agp 3x |
| 01:03.50 | Spiritus55 | What's it look like? |
| 01:04.01 | blazemonger | has something to do with agpgart |
| 01:04.04 | uski | hmm i see |
| 01:04.04 | enouf | !be a enouf barbie |
| 01:04.04 | dpkg | Aww, enouf is HARD! Let's go shopping, enouf |
| 01:04.08 | blazemonger | and i dont know how to compile kernels |
| 01:04.09 | enouf | ;-) |
| 01:04.13 | uski | ;) |
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| 01:04.35 | uski | "BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio" how can i enable udma ?? |
| 01:04.58 | enouf | hdparm |
| 01:05.16 | uski | hmm |
| 01:05.21 | uski | no risk of harming the data ? |
| 01:05.29 | uski | at worse, i get a crash, but no data corruption ? |
| 01:06.05 | dondelelcaro | there's always a risk of data corruption |
| 01:06.07 | enouf | why are e and f non-udma? the dmesg are only early boot messages, check using hdparm -I /dev/hde |
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| 01:06.19 | enouf | or hdparm -i /dev/hde for more info |
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| 01:08.04 | jelly-home | uski: I don't think I've experienced data lossage with hdparm -d 1, but -X options have been able to reset the ide channel and result in nasty things. |
| 01:08.15 | uski | enouf: i did hdparm -d1 /dev/hde, worked, now i'm benchmarking |
| 01:08.20 | uski | thanks jelly-home :) |
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| 01:09.20 | jelly-home | libata drivers don't allow messing with dma/pio at all, I think |
| 01:10.22 | uski | i did "hdparm -i /dev/hde" and it says udma5 is the active mode, which is OK for me |
| 01:11.00 | uski | anyway the computer is an old Pentium-II 300MHz so I don't expect much speed from it ;) |
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| 01:11.00 | enouf | uski: 2.6.18-4? |
| 01:11.00 | uski | enouf, -5 |
| 01:11.00 | BlackJudas | Lately... the kernel feels so incredibly unstable. :s |
| 01:11.01 | orudie | my nVidia drivers are crashed, and installing the restricted driver is still not getting me into X |
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| 01:11.06 | BlackJudas | Well since 2.6.8 anyway ;) |
| 01:11.18 | enouf | uski: rofl, you are not getting udma5 speeds across the FSB ;-) |
| 01:11.26 | uski | enouf, yea ;) |
| 01:11.39 | enouf | uski: udma2 is all 66 tops, but likely 33 |
| 01:11.43 | Spiritus55 | Hey, enouf, you know how to set up gdesklets? |
| 01:11.50 | enouf | Spiritus55: no |
| 01:11.55 | enouf | (thank goodness) |
| 01:11.58 | Spiritus55 | does anyone in here? |
| 01:12.03 | Spiritus55 | And why thank goodness? |
| 01:12.09 | uski | enouf: i just assume that dma will always be better that pio, so i want dma |
| 01:12.13 | jetscreamer | well since restricted drivers are an ubuntu feature, i'd say what's your point, orudie |
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| 01:12.30 | enouf | uski: see linux-ata.org for newer kernel changes concerning libata, and such |
| 01:12.40 | jetscreamer | yes dma is better than pio |
| 01:12.49 | enouf | uski: ofcourse dma is better ;-) |
| 01:12.53 | uski | interesting page |
| 01:13.41 | enouf | actually, your 300MHz p2 FSB is only 66Mhz iirc, sincce the 350/100FSB is what i have (1st 100FSb) |
| 01:13.41 | uski | haha, on its FAQ i can read (about a Promise SATA RAID controller) : "TX4 can offload RAID5 XOR calculations, but typically the host CPU is much faster. |
| 01:13.55 | uski | how come a chip designer can make such a crappy hardware that it's slower than a cpu |
| 01:14.10 | uski | enouf, i think i have 100MHz * 3 |
| 01:14.20 | uski | because 300/66 is not round |
| 01:14.27 | enouf | uski: see http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more fun ;-) |
| 01:14.40 | enouf | uski: you're not round :-P |
| 01:14.47 | orudie | jetscreamer, i have ubuntu 7.04, had nvidia drivers installed with envy, then i was advised that envy method is not the best once, since i couldn't get compiz fusion running, so i uninstalled nvidia drivers using envy, and after restarting ubuntu - X returned a fatal error, so i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg" followed by "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" |
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| 01:15.07 | simonrvn | orudie: #ubuntu |
| 01:15.18 | hatter | should i use the ntfs-3g driver or the ntfs driver ? |
| 01:15.19 | enouf | uski: i have the tech ref right here ;-) |
| 01:15.42 | jelly-home | hatter: ntfs-3g only if you want to write to it |
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| 01:15.59 | hatter | jelly-home, thx, only want to read and copy, not write |
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| 01:16.10 | enouf | ntfsutils? |
| 01:16.11 | stoned | hey |
| 01:16.14 | jelly-home | hatter: no need for ntfs-3g, then |
| 01:16.21 | stoned | I accidentally deleted the debian etch security repo line |
| 01:16.22 | stoned | :( |
| 01:16.29 | jetscreamer | /dev/hda1 /mnt ntfs auto,users,noexec,ro,umask=022,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 |
| 01:16.31 | simonrvn | u |
| 01:16.32 | jelly-home | stoned: -ETOOMUCHPOT |
| 01:16.33 | stoned | anyone wanna hook me up |
| 01:16.33 | enouf | stoned: nice one |
| 01:16.38 | simonrvn | undo in vim ;p |
| 01:16.45 | enouf | !security |
| 01:16.45 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade". , or ask me about testing security or unstable security |
| 01:16.49 | uski | i preciously keep my old Ethernet cards, because i think that they require less CPU work than the current $10 10/100 ethernet cards; i see it's the same with SATA raid controllers... it's cheap but it does nothing |
| 01:16.52 | jetscreamer | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 01:16.59 | jelly-home | deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 01:17.01 | blazemonger | where's trhe testing netinst image>? |
| 01:17.02 | stoned | you are the men |
| 01:17.04 | jelly-home | :-) |
| 01:17.06 | stoned | all of you |
| 01:17.06 | snadge | !apache2 |
| 01:17.06 | dpkg | somebody said apache2 was a virtual package provided by one of the following packages: apache2-mpm-worker, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-perchild. Each package contains the apache2 server compiled with unique options - Read the description for each package and select the one right for you. You should also read the docs, which are in the apache2-doc package. |
| 01:17.06 | stoned | lol |
| 01:17.07 | blazemonger | its not available it's a blank directory |
| 01:17.11 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 01:17.11 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 01:17.47 | N0S3 | lenny is good |
| 01:17.58 | blazemonger | ywell wheres the latest snapshot then for netinst? |
| 01:18.07 | jelly-home | dpkg, d-i ~= s/ / / |
| 01:18.07 | dpkg | ~= s/ / /, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:18.12 | enouf | !testing |
| 01:18.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, testing is a release/suite between stable and unstable. testing currently points to lenny. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 01:18.21 | enouf | bah |
| 01:18.23 | jetscreamer | there is no netinst |
| 01:18.29 | jetscreamer | deprecated |
| 01:18.31 | jelly-home | um. or =~ |
| 01:18.35 | jetscreamer | you must now compile by hand |
| 01:18.46 | stoned | is there a w64codecs? |
| 01:18.51 | jelly-home | msg dpkg d-i =~ s/ / / |
| 01:19.21 | enouf | sed \/\////\////\\/ |
| 01:19.26 | enouf | ;-0 |
| 01:19.27 | uski | enouf, you seem to know a lot about sata/raid stuff... do you know any cheap sata chipset that is hotplug compatible ? |
| 01:19.35 | stoned | night dude |
| 01:19.47 | enouf | uski: intel and ahci |
| 01:19.49 | enouf | ? |
| 01:19.58 | blazemonger | just where is the latest lenny image |
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| 01:20.06 | blazemonger | or is it possible to update to sid using stable? |
| 01:20.17 | jelly-home | look, a demonic duck! \_o< |
| 01:20.19 | uski | enouf, i was praying so that you said "silicon image 311x", but it seems i wasn't heard |
| 01:20.27 | enouf | uski: you'll need a newer kernel too |
| 01:20.35 | uski | enouf: oh, it's not for this box ;) |
| 01:20.37 | simonrvn | blazemonger: why do you need a netinst if you have debian there already? |
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| 01:20.41 | enouf | uski: it might be, i'm not sure |
| 01:20.45 | uski | ok |
| 01:20.51 | jetscreamer | use goodbye-windows.com |
| 01:20.54 | enouf | 3114 is better than the 3112, iirc |
| 01:20.55 | blazemonger | i like small downloads |
| 01:20.55 | jetscreamer | works for me |
| 01:20.59 | blazemonger | i like the netinst image |
| 01:21.03 | |porta| | Hello I'm trying to install a driver for my wifi and it's not working |
| 01:21.04 | blazemonger | and im not "leet" |
| 01:21.09 | uski | once i caught my father hotplugging a IDE drive... and it worked (under windows) |
| 01:21.13 | enouf | businesscard.iso ftw |
| 01:21.23 | simonrvn | blazemonger: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 01:21.31 | enouf | uski: he got lucky |
| 01:21.41 | simonrvn | silly humans |
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| 01:22.00 | blazemonger | can stable be updated to sid? |
| 01:22.09 | uski | enouf, yea... i still can't believe it worked. BTW it seems that the Si311X supports hotplugging :D |
| 01:22.11 | enouf | uski: yes, you cn hotplug your ps/2 ports too , and sometimes it works, but not smart :-P |
| 01:22.16 | simonrvn | blazemonger: not advised. you were told that an hour ago |
| 01:22.25 | uski | enouf, i do that regularly but don't tell mum |
| 01:22.29 | enouf | uski: good! |
| 01:22.39 | |porta| | uski: if i may ask what is sid? |
| 01:22.46 | enouf | nope, /me won't tatlle |
| 01:22.49 | simonrvn | you can short your ps/2 ports that way ... |
| 01:22.50 | enouf | er tattle |
| 01:23.00 | uski | |porta|, debian sid ? it's a version of debian |
| 01:23.06 | enouf | |porta|: /msg dpkg sid |
| 01:23.07 | uski | simonrvn, what ? why ? |
| 01:23.13 | enouf | |porta|: /msg dpkg release |
| 01:23.17 | simonrvn | !tell |porta| -about sid |
| 01:23.17 | enouf | |porta|: /msg dpkg releases too |
| 01:23.21 | uski | the PS/2 ports are just +5V, GND, data and clock |
| 01:23.24 | |porta| | ty |
| 01:23.45 | uski | hmm |
| 01:23.49 | simonrvn | because you're not guaranteed to hit the ground pin first ;) |
| 01:23.57 | simonrvn | and it wasn't designed that way |
| 01:24.02 | uski | yea you're right |
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| 01:24.15 | TiMiDo | hey |
| 01:24.28 | TiMiDo | can someone help me i cannot ssh from another box to my box any ideas? |
| 01:24.30 | uski | that's why the USB connectors have longer pins for the +5V and GND lines |
| 01:24.33 | |porta| | ok so it is a more powerfull version that is not fully tesed. |
| 01:24.38 | uski | TiMiDo, apt-get install ssh-server |
| 01:24.43 | uski | or maybe ssh |
| 01:24.51 | dvs | uski: just ssh |
| 01:25.05 | enouf | Endeavour landed successfuly! much earlier today .. so, was it timed? so perhaps if catastrophic, it would blend in with the hurricane and quake and mining disasters? hrm . oh well , nm ;-) |
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| 01:25.17 | TiMiDo | uski, i did |
| 01:25.19 | enouf | s/blend/blended |
| 01:25.22 | dvs | TiMiDo: /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run |
| 01:25.24 | |porta| | Where may i find info on installing wifi? |
| 01:25.34 | TiMiDo | dvs, ? |
| 01:25.42 | enouf | er sucessfuly/successfully |
| 01:25.44 | dvs | TiMiDo: is it there? |
| 01:25.51 | enouf | gah |
| 01:26.02 | TiMiDo | dvs, yeap |
| 01:26.08 | dvs | TiMiDo: that's why |
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| 01:26.17 | TiMiDo | ? |
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| 01:26.22 | |porta| | i have a wifi card that is only for windows... i installed mdiswrapper but it will not work. |
| 01:26.31 | uski | anyone knows how drive plugging/unplugging with hotplug sata controllers is handled ? is a script launched when a drive is unplugged ? let's say I want a NAS with a RAID5 array, how can I check the status of the drives, and change a drive/rebuil the array if a drive has failed ? |
| 01:27.01 | TiMiDo | dvs, what acn i do? |
| 01:27.02 | enouf | uski: you're talking about mdadm for softraid and udev |
| 01:27.06 | dvs | TiMiDo: delete it |
| 01:27.17 | uski | enouf: ok ty... |
| 01:27.23 | TiMiDo | dvs, moduli sshd_config ssh_host_dsa_key ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 01:27.23 | TiMiDo | ssh_config sshd_not_to_be_run ssh_host_dsa_key.pub ssh_host_rsa_key.pub |
| 01:27.23 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.30 | TiMiDo | that's what i've have on my /etc/ssh dir |
| 01:27.54 | enouf | uski: udev and hal handle hotplugging rules and device enumeration and such, afaik |
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| 01:28.29 | uski | enouf, i just hope that there are already some high level tools to handle drive failure and array rebuilding |
| 01:28.38 | dvs | TiMiDo: rm /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run |
| 01:28.41 | enouf | uski: dbus helps apps converse to each other at the hardware level, or just above it .. iinm |
| 01:28.51 | TiMiDo | dvs, done, |
| 01:29.11 | hatter | for mounting a remote ntfs filesystem, do you think i should use mount -t ntfs or smbmount ? |
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| 01:29.22 | enouf | uski: see http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mdadm/mdadm/trunk/debian/FAQ?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 |
| 01:29.25 | TiMiDo | dvs, now what do i do? |
| 01:29.32 | dvs | TiMiDo: /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 01:29.48 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.55 | TiMiDo | dvs, i do ssh localhost and it doesn't connect, |
| 01:29.58 | uski | ty enouf |
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| 01:30.07 | enouf | sure, np |
| 01:31.10 | TiMiDo | dvs, any more ideas? |
| 01:31.17 | dvs | TiMiDo: nope |
| 01:31.34 | TiMiDo | damn |
| 01:31.37 | uski | omg there are too many types of RAID arrays... i didn't know about RAID4 nor RAID10 |
| 01:32.03 | enouf | uski: forget 4 :-) |
| 01:32.22 | uski | enouf, i was thinking about raid 6 for a big array with many disks |
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| 01:32.31 | enouf | uski: see wikipedia for raid level defs |
| 01:32.34 | uski | yup |
| 01:32.36 | uski | doing that now |
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| 01:32.44 | enouf | uski: indeed .. 2 disk redundancy |
| 01:32.48 | derek_ | What should I put in /etc/fstab for my dvdrw drive. I mean, the rw,user stuff |
| 01:33.09 | uski | do you know a tool to shrink or grow a FS ? like, i hve a raid 5 array, and i add a disk... i need to be able to grow the FS, what would i use ? |
| 01:33.15 | enouf | uski: hardware raid, is 3ware/areca/lsi/adaptec cards -- most all others are shit |
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| 01:33.49 | uski | well, most others are just software raid, i think it's enough to protect the data, but not the uptime of the system ;) |
| 01:33.54 | enouf | uski: http://scotgate.org/?p=107 |
| 01:34.14 | uski | very nice, ty |
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| 01:34.40 | uski | enouf, yea sorry lol |
| 01:34.49 | Spiritus55 | Hey, how do I take items off of my flash drive and put them on my computer to where they aren't protected? |
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| 01:35.12 | enouf | Spiritus55: rephrase |
| 01:35.13 | uski | Spiritus55, what do you mean about "protected" ? |
| 01:35.20 | subopt | After i installed a new kernel via 'apt-get install', i rebuilt the kernel module for my company's vpn client, but now it won't load, saying "Invalid module format". Does that mean that installing a kernel doesn't also get you the corresponding source? |
| 01:35.20 | Spiritus55 | Or, how do I set it up to where my normal account can have access to the flash drive. |
| 01:35.21 | Spiritus55 | ? |
| 01:35.34 | uski | oh yea, you want all users to access the files on the flashdrive |
| 01:35.35 | jetscreamer | Spiritus55: you mean 'how do i enable rw on my flash drive' |
| 01:35.37 | enouf | udev rules, and mount options |
| 01:35.38 | dvs | Spiritus55: add yourself to the floppy groups |
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| 01:35.43 | Spiritus55 | I'm all the users. |
| 01:35.48 | Spiritus55 | As root? |
| 01:35.49 | enouf | pludev group |
| 01:35.52 | enouf | plugdev group |
| 01:35.53 | Spiritus55 | udev rules? |
| 01:36.00 | jetscreamer | !vfatrw |
| 01:36.00 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id" |
| 01:36.04 | Spiritus55 | In the terminal? |
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| 01:36.17 | jetscreamer | you want to add something like that to your fstab |
| 01:36.28 | enouf | see /usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html |
| 01:36.30 | jetscreamer | or use the options when manually mounting |
| 01:37.05 | enouf | but if vfat, you shouldn't need to mess about much with udev, though |
| 01:37.34 | al | Etch and initrd not bringing both network cards. Boot process hangs while starting portmap. Any ideas? This doesn't happen on my Sarge servers. |
| 01:37.47 | stoned | hey |
| 01:37.52 | jetscreamer | alfalfa |
| 01:37.52 | dvs | ho |
| 01:38.01 | enouf | heidi? |
| 01:38.02 | stoned | can mplayer work under ia32libs or does one have to install an entire 32bit chroot |
| 01:38.02 | dvs | opium |
| 01:38.02 | al | I have NFS exports and NFS imports on both interfaces. |
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| 01:38.13 | enouf | hrm |
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| 01:39.15 | Spiritus55 | How can I change mount options so all users can just take the files (read write execute)? |
| 01:39.25 | Spiritus55 | *off of my usb flash drive? |
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| 01:40.41 | dvs | dvst: imposter! |
| 01:40.48 | Spiritus55 | Does anyone know? |
| 01:41.15 | dvst | :) |
| 01:41.18 | Spiritus55 | brb |
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| 01:44.24 | protoloc0 | how can i install a package.. that needs other pacakges, that i cant install... |
| 01:44.40 | jetscreamer | use aptitude |
| 01:44.43 | derek_ | /dev/hda /media/dvd auto defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0 is my /etc/fstab for my dvdrw drive. It won't mount, it just sits there. |
| 01:44.58 | protoloc0 | im using apt |
| 01:45.01 | jetscreamer | try /dev/scd0 |
| 01:45.04 | protoloc0 | like... |
| 01:45.38 | derek_ | jetscreamer, "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" |
| 01:45.52 | jetscreamer | works for me: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 01:45.57 | jetscreamer | yes it's a dvd |
| 01:46.05 | protoloc0 | apt tries to install other packages.. that i dont whant.. |
| 01:46.13 | protoloc0 | how can i tell to apt, to dont instal them.. just some... |
| 01:46.24 | jetscreamer | protoloc0: do apt-get dist-upgrade and live with it |
| 01:46.40 | jetscreamer | or aptitude |
| 01:46.50 | jetscreamer | or aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 01:46.59 | derek_ | jetscreamer, that's the original installation /etc/fstab which didn't work for me. |
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| 01:47.16 | jetscreamer | protoloc0: uninstall some stuff when it's over |
| 01:47.24 | derek_ | on every other distro i've used /dev/hda so i know that's correct.. |
| 01:47.34 | jetscreamer | well |
| 01:47.42 | jetscreamer | look in /dev and find the dvd |
| 01:47.51 | dvs | derek_: ls -l /dev/dvd |
| 01:48.13 | derek_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-08-20 17:34 /dev/dvd -> hda |
| 01:48.36 | protoloc0 | jetscreamer, i cant.. |
| 01:48.45 | protoloc0 | cuz i have that package.. made by hand.. |
| 01:48.48 | protoloc0 | by sources.. |
| 01:48.54 | protoloc0 | so i just wnat to miiss that package.. |
| 01:48.55 | amphi | derek_: that's an unusual arrangement |
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| 01:48.58 | protoloc0 | thoses ones |
| 01:49.07 | derek_ | amphi, that's what came installed.. |
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| 01:49.11 | jetscreamer | no lots of laptops have the cd as hda |
| 01:49.15 | dvs | amphi: Im guessing all the HDs are SATA |
| 01:49.17 | jetscreamer | at least i've seen it |
| 01:49.19 | derek_ | yes |
| 01:49.24 | amphi | derek_: ah |
| 01:49.46 | amphi | I forgot about that, out here on the trailing edge |
| 01:49.48 | jetscreamer | so are you in the cdrom group der |
| 01:49.54 | jetscreamer | derek_: |
| 01:49.58 | protoloc0 | emerge does that.. |
| 01:49.58 | derek_ | yes |
| 01:49.58 | protoloc0 | :\ |
| 01:50.13 | jetscreamer | works here |
| 01:50.29 | jetscreamer | try a different dvd |
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| 01:50.39 | jetscreamer | what dvd are you trying |
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| 01:50.50 | Spiritus55 | Hey, where is trash? |
| 01:50.56 | Spiritus55 | I mean, where is the trash directory? |
| 01:51.04 | jetscreamer | ~/.Trash iirc |
| 01:51.07 | Spiritus55 | When you right click and say "send to trash" where does it send it? |
| 01:51.12 | jetscreamer | the . makes it hidden |
| 01:51.45 | Spiritus55 | So it goes to "./trash" ? |
| 01:51.56 | Spiritus55 | "/.trash"* |
| 01:52.00 | dvs | Spiritus55: $HOME/.Trash |
| 01:52.23 | |porta| | My wifi isn't working and im lost! |
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| 01:52.38 | jetscreamer | OnlyShowIn=KDE oooo |
| 01:52.49 | Spiritus55 | go to /home/.trash? |
| 01:52.52 | jetscreamer | no |
| 01:52.56 | jetscreamer | Trash not trash |
| 01:52.59 | foo | Hm, typically... an apt-get update && upgrade shouldn't break anything, and it should be done on a regular basis so I am protected from any new corrected vulnerabilities or something, right? (oh boy, I sound almost like a Windows user!) |
| 01:52.59 | jetscreamer | .Trash |
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| 01:53.06 | foo | (on the server end, that is) |
| 01:53.07 | jetscreamer | ~ |
| 01:53.08 | Spiritus55 | I found it. |
| 01:53.20 | jetscreamer | yuck yuck yuck... yuk |
| 01:53.25 | jetscreamer | err |
| 01:53.27 | dvs | :-P |
| 01:53.31 | jetscreamer | yuk yuk yuk ... yuck |
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| 01:54.17 | jetscreamer | foo: yeah, but if you're running stable it's very minimal |
| 01:54.30 | Spiritus55 | What is the argument to rm an entire directory? |
| 01:54.37 | jetscreamer | rm -R |
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| 01:55.21 | foo | jetscreamer: Gotcha, yeah. I just did it, and it upgraded apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-prefork-dev apache2-utils apache2.2-common debian-archive-keyring initramfs-tools libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 locales lsb-base nfs-common pppconfig x11-common ... last time I saw libc6 upgraded it was when I accidently upgraded to etch :) Please tell me this time it was normal... |
| 01:55.27 | foo | jetscreamer: :) |
| 01:55.46 | Spiritus55 | I got rm: missing operand when I typed rm -R |
| 01:55.50 | awesomess3 | when I type in: `man X` it says it's not there. I don't understand how Debian manages its man pages? |
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| 01:56.07 | jetscreamer | i don't run etch, but if your sources say stable yes it's fine |
| 01:56.16 | jetscreamer | Spiritus55: tell it what to delete |
| 01:56.21 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 01:56.26 | Spiritus55 | Ok, I think I did it. |
| 01:56.29 | Spiritus55 | Hold on. |
| 01:56.32 | Spiritus55 | let me check |
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| 01:56.34 | jetscreamer | man xorg maybe |
| 01:56.53 | simonrvn | awesomess3: you don't have X installed then |
| 01:57.01 | Spiritus55 | Terry thater won "america's got talent"@ |
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| 01:57.03 | Spiritus55 | !!!!! |
| 01:57.03 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 01:57.22 | foo | jetscreamer: I changed them to say etch. Because... if they say stable, and I accidently forget that we moved the current test into stable... and I don't want to accidently upgrade again. :) Anyways, thanks. Just got a little paranoid. |
| 01:57.25 | simonrvn | awesomess3: my bad, got removed |
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| 01:57.38 | simonrvn | awesomess3: see Xorg |
| 01:58.15 | zimmo | how can i fix a hard disk problem with badblocks? |
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| 01:58.18 | dewey | ok my ?root is under 1 gig now so what can I remove from it savely? |
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| 01:59.51 | zimmo | is there anybody there? |
| 02:00.20 | awesomess3 | zimmo: yes! |
| 02:00.24 | zimmo | okay |
| 02:00.42 | zimmo | i did the badblocks -ws /dev/hda yesterday night ok? |
| 02:00.53 | awesomess3 | ok |
| 02:00.56 | jetscreamer | ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/manindex1.html |
| 02:01.04 | zimmo | it passed all night long running the command |
| 02:01.24 | zimmo | and when i woke up today it simply... said nothing |
| 02:01.33 | jetscreamer | !e |
| 02:01.33 | dpkg | from memory, e is from memory, e is a silly bulky, overdone wm, or still the best looking window manager around. and smaller than windowmaker in memory, or of course, smaller than windowmaker isn't saying much. see sawfish. see MDMA, or 2.7182818284590452353602874713526625, or kicks ass, or a very versatile window manager, or *utter* shite, or http://www.enlightenment.org/ |
| 02:01.35 | jetscreamer | err |
| 02:01.39 | jetscreamer | !te |
| 02:01.39 | dpkg | methinks te is a good EPIC script, complete with colour and stuff. |
| 02:01.49 | jetscreamer | it's some language too |
| 02:02.03 | jetscreamer | !km |
| 02:02.03 | dpkg | [km] Comoros |
| 02:02.27 | zimmo | awesomess3 help me please |
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| 02:02.57 | awesomess3 | zimmo: maybe it saying nothing means there are no badblocks in /dev/hda? |
| 02:02.58 | jetscreamer | te & km i don't have fonts for those :/ |
| 02:03.00 | zimmo | it checked and rechecked all the blocks and however... it did not solve my problem |
| 02:03.02 | bkudria | can some help me set up pam-ssh? i've followed all the directions in the README.Debian, but I'm prompted for the passphrase each time anyway. has anyone got this working? |
| 02:03.13 | Spiritus55 | So, what is a good music player for debian? |
| 02:03.15 | jetscreamer | you probably don't have any bad blocks |
| 02:03.20 | jetscreamer | what is the error of the hd |
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| 02:03.22 | zimmo | awesomess3 is there something because i cant install any linux system as ext3 awesomess3 |
| 02:03.27 | awesomess3 | zimmo: after running `badblocks`, try: echo $? # to see if it returned an error. |
| 02:03.39 | jetscreamer | did you dd the hd |
| 02:03.45 | jetscreamer | if not, do so |
| 02:03.45 | amphi | Spiritus55: moc is quite nice for console, quodlibet for X, IMHO |
| 02:03.46 | LV-426 | an elegant way to have 'make' run by default with the '-j' option ? |
| 02:03.56 | zimmo | awesomess3 the installation accuses error in my hd |
| 02:03.58 | Spiritus55 | quodlibet? |
| 02:04.00 | zimmo | in the part of the disk partition |
| 02:04.06 | zimmo | what else could it be? |
| 02:04.17 | |porta| | I keep getting FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. What would cause this? I have ndiswrapper installed and configured but modprobe isn't acting right. |
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| 02:04.27 | jetscreamer | zimmo: did you dd the hd |
| 02:04.37 | eshaase | how can i monitor my network traffic? |
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| 02:04.50 | zimmo | jetscreamer what is dd? |
| 02:05.26 | jetscreamer | to erase the 'entire' drive, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdwhatever |
| 02:05.49 | jetscreamer | it will write zeros to the entire drive |
| 02:06.05 | jetscreamer | hda for the entire drive |
| 02:06.05 | zimmo | well, i have tried it in other ways |
| 02:06.11 | amphi | enouf: ;) |
| 02:06.28 | zimmo | i tried the `erase partition` when i was installing and it accused error |
| 02:06.33 | jetscreamer | dd'ing an entire drive takes time zimmo but it 'might' help |
| 02:06.34 | amphi | eshaase: iptraf is handy |
| 02:06.38 | zimmo | but would it be better i try again from live cd? |
| 02:06.46 | zimmo | ah ok |
| 02:06.51 | jetscreamer | long as the hd is unmounted |
| 02:06.55 | jetscreamer | doesn't matter |
| 02:06.57 | Spiritus55 | Anyone know how to set up Gdesklets? |
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| 02:07.08 | zimmo | there is no data at all |
| 02:07.09 | coldsteal | hello |
| 02:07.21 | jetscreamer | give it a shot |
| 02:07.23 | zimmo | i guess it is difficult to install linux on an old hard disk |
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| 02:07.39 | coldsteal | im running debian etch and i need sigc++-2.0 i have no idea what package i need or anything |
| 02:07.40 | jetscreamer | it's not an rll is it |
| 02:07.56 | jetscreamer | !tell coldsteal -about search |
| 02:08.03 | enouf | !tell coldsteal -about search |
| 02:08.07 | enouf | bah |
| 02:08.12 | jetscreamer | an old man beat you |
| 02:08.17 | enouf | hehe |
| 02:08.45 | zimmo | yes... |
| 02:08.50 | jetscreamer | it is? |
| 02:08.58 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 02:09.05 | zimmo | i can install the xp |
| 02:09.12 | zimmo | so why cant i install linux? |
| 02:09.14 | amphi | zimmo: how old? can it be moved by one person? ;) |
| 02:09.24 | enouf | :-) |
| 02:09.32 | jetscreamer | yeah .. 'roids |
| 02:09.37 | zimmo | well, i tried with other 3 still older hard disks |
| 02:09.45 | jetscreamer | nuke it |
| 02:09.47 | zimmo | not at all |
| 02:09.48 | zimmo | hahaha |
| 02:09.50 | jetscreamer | bare metal |
| 02:09.52 | jetscreamer | dd |
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| 02:10.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | eve |
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| 02:10.12 | awesomess3 | xterm -geometry 100x100+0+0 # is making the window huge... :(( |
| 02:10.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | then don't do it? |
| 02:10.29 | jetscreamer | divide by 2? |
| 02:10.36 | zimmo | ill try |
| 02:10.37 | awesomess3 | lol I'll try dividing |
| 02:10.50 | coldsteal | its not in apt-cache |
| 02:10.53 | jetscreamer | divide by zero error, box melts |
| 02:10.55 | awesomess3 | whoa crap it's still huge |
| 02:11.03 | enouf | zimmo: dd the drive, then instal debian as mentioned |
| 02:11.04 | Spyro_boy | Hello. You'll laugh at what I'm going to ask but can I dist-upgrade my Ubuntu Feisty into Debian Unstable? |
| 02:11.08 | Spiritus55 | Hey. |
| 02:11.20 | Spiritus55 | I need help installing and setting up gdesklets, could someone help me? |
| 02:11.33 | jetscreamer | Spyro_boy: it doesn't work out as well as you might hope: best to back up /home and some /etc stuff |
| 02:11.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | Spyro_boy: try, and we might have a ood laugh :) |
| 02:11.43 | jetscreamer | and iinstall clean |
| 02:11.47 | jetscreamer | i have tried |
| 02:11.51 | Spyro_boy | ah. |
| 02:11.53 | Spyro_boy | alright. |
| 02:12.00 | Spyro_boy | well, I only have a ubuntu disc at the moment |
| 02:12.01 | jetscreamer | i've tried both ways |
| 02:12.09 | jetscreamer | Spyro_boy: goodbye-windows.com |
| 02:12.14 | jetscreamer | if you have windows |
| 02:12.16 | Spyro_boy | and my net is really slow, so I'll use ubuntu for about a week. |
| 02:12.27 | Spyro_boy | jetscreamer, nope. |
| 02:12.31 | Spyro_boy | I'm a pure linux user. |
| 02:12.34 | zimmo | enouf |
| 02:12.38 | Spyro_boy | Been pure fo about a year. |
| 02:12.40 | jetscreamer | get a netinst when you do |
| 02:12.44 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 02:12.44 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 02:12.47 | Spyro_boy | jetscreamer, yeah. |
| 02:12.48 | enouf | coldsteal: likely not avail for your release, use apt-fiel |
| 02:12.57 | enouf | coldsteal: /msg dpkg backports |
| 02:12.59 | jetscreamer | file ... |
| 02:13.02 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 02:13.03 | Spiritus55 | Could someone get to my question? |
| 02:13.09 | zimmo | can you repeat that command? |
| 02:13.12 | Spyro_boy | Spiritus55, apt and go. |
| 02:13.15 | Spyro_boy | It's that easy. |
| 02:13.19 | abrotman | Spiritus55: need help how ? |
| 02:13.19 | jetscreamer | apt-get install it afaik Spiritus55 |
| 02:13.20 | Spiritus55 | What do you mean? |
| 02:13.22 | zimmo | i was reading the manual of dd |
| 02:13.32 | coldsteal | like this /msg dpkg backports sigc++-2.0 ? |
| 02:13.39 | Spiritus55 | I already installed it. |
| 02:13.42 | jetscreamer | zimmo: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda or whatever |
| 02:13.45 | bkudria | can some help me set up pam-ssh? i've followed all the directions in the README.Debian, but I'm prompted for the passphrase each time anyway. has anyone got this working? |
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| 02:13.49 | Spiritus55 | Now i just need some applets or whatever they are called. |
| 02:13.50 | jetscreamer | no just /msg dpkg backports |
| 02:13.53 | enouf | Spiritus55: Desktop env suff in very non-specific -- read, and /msg dpkg grounding |
| 02:14.00 | jetscreamer | ok so apt-cache search gdesk |
| 02:14.00 | abrotman | Spiritus55: there's a -data package IIRC |
| 02:14.06 | qiyong | s there any well know memory chip detect software? |
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| 02:14.30 | zimmo | okay |
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| 02:14.45 | enouf | apt-get update && apt-cache search gdesklets |
| 02:14.49 | Spiritus55 | I don't know where to get any "desklets" an body help me? |
| 02:14.55 | muhoo | hmm, why is there no package for csound for amd64? |
| 02:15.00 | enouf | apt-cache search -n desklets |
| 02:15.05 | zimmo | jetscreamer what would occour if instead of writting /dev/zero, /dev/one ? |
| 02:15.08 | Spiritus55 | In the terminal? |
| 02:15.20 | muhoo | i checked bdo and didn't see any bugs relating to build on amd64 |
| 02:15.21 | enouf | zimmo: glory hole for you |
| 02:15.24 | jetscreamer | if there is a /dev/one it would write one's |
| 02:15.34 | enouf | try /dev/pi |
| 02:15.47 | jetscreamer | note that /dev/random is VERY slow |
| 02:15.48 | zimmo | hahaha |
| 02:15.51 | muhoo | heh, glory hole http://www.restivo.org/blog/podpress_trac/web/83/0/glory-hole-0.3.ogg |
| 02:16.15 | jetscreamer | wonder how many days it would take for random |
| 02:16.16 | zimmo | hm... |
| 02:16.27 | amphi | heh |
| 02:16.30 | jetscreamer | it's an hour or more at least for zero |
| 02:16.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | ctrl-L suddenly didnt work for me anymore... and it was driving me mad - actually only left-ctrl+l did not work, right-ctrl+L still cleared xterms etc. I was going to ask in here if someone got an idea, but I found out by now, wo I thought I can share my new wisdom.... so.. actually I found out, that ctrl 9,o,l,. all didnt do anything anymore.... and then... can anyone guess? |
| 02:16.43 | jetscreamer | let's do it on the desk |
| 02:16.47 | Spiritus55 | Ok, I'm getting some applets. |
| 02:16.48 | zimmo | but men |
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| 02:16.57 | Spiritus55 | After I get the applets, how do I get them on the desktop? |
| 02:17.00 | muhoo | package csound isn't available for amd64. why? |
| 02:17.03 | Spiritus55 | Someone help me with that? |
| 02:17.03 | muhoo | how can i find out why? |
| 02:17.05 | zimmo | at last am i obligated to buy another hard disk? |
| 02:17.16 | jetscreamer | zimmo: try the dd |
| 02:17.29 | jetscreamer | it's been a magic elixir for me |
| 02:17.30 | zimmo | well |
| 02:17.32 | abrotman | Spiritus55: IIRC .. you just run then .. been awhile though |
| 02:17.35 | muhoo | how can i help? i'm doing the apt-get source; apt-get build-dep; debuild dance right now |
| 02:17.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems not (or nobody was reading that) |
| 02:17.41 | enouf | Spiritus55: i told you ! /usr/share/doc/<pkgname> or <keyword>, and man pages |
| 02:17.42 | muhoo | can i submit the package once i'm done building it? |
| 02:17.45 | Spiritus55 | What exactly is IIRC? |
| 02:17.49 | abrotman | !iirc |
| 02:17.49 | jetscreamer | !iirc |
| 02:17.49 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 02:17.52 | enouf | !iirc |
| 02:17.56 | Spiritus55 | Oh, thanks. |
| 02:17.57 | jetscreamer | lol@enouf |
| 02:17.58 | enouf | !!! |
| 02:17.58 | dpkg | I'm not your fucking csh prompt. |
| 02:18.01 | enouf | :-P |
| 02:18.06 | Spiritus55 | !help |
| 02:18.09 | Spiritus55 | !google |
| 02:18.13 | R4M0N | guys! i just finished installing an etch with my netinstall cd, downloaded and installed everything flawlessly, and when i rebooted the system it doesn't have an eth0 device :S what should i do now? its too strange... i have a gigabyte motherboard with integrated lan, nvidia chipset |
| 02:18.14 | dpkg | well, google is a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
| 02:18.14 | Spiritus55 | Oh well. |
| 02:18.17 | abrotman | Spiritus55: i used to use them a lot .. not so much anymore |
| 02:18.22 | zimmo | elixir... |
| 02:18.24 | muhoo | !fluff Google |
| 02:18.30 | zimmo | witch stuff! |
| 02:18.32 | enouf | ooo .. ;-) |
| 02:18.39 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: I'm just getting started so they look really cool right now. |
| 02:18.47 | Spiritus55 | Abrotman: just installed debian lastnight. |
| 02:18.57 | abrotman | Spiritus55: gdesklets are fun .. |
| 02:18.58 | stoned | where can i find some ducumentation on installing 32bit mplayer in amd64 (not under a full chroot) |
| 02:18.59 | jetscreamer | R4M0N: for me, it always borks out after the 2nd reboot or so. changing allow-hotplug to auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces always works fo rme |
| 02:19.33 | R4M0N | jetscreamer: thanks i'll try it right now and get back with the results |
| 02:19.49 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: Do you know how to set them up? |
| 02:19.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, anyways... the F8 key was stuck... weird that this would only make left-ctrl"key-in-the-same-column" stop functioning |
| 02:20.07 | abrotman | Spiritus55: the gdesklets site tells you how i believe |
| 02:20.11 | enouf | R4M0N: see /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 02:20.20 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: I'll google. |
| 02:20.26 | jetscreamer | and they have a help page in gnome too |
| 02:20.27 | enouf | !tell R4M0N -about interfaces |
| 02:20.27 | abrotman | Spiritus55: moment . i'm messing with them |
| 02:20.43 | abrotman | Spiritus55: do you have the gnome systray running ? |
| 02:20.45 | Spiritus55 | Abrotman: could you help me out with them? I'm very fresh to linux. |
| 02:20.46 | zimmo | google has million copies of the very same information |
| 02:20.55 | bkudria | can some help me set up pam-ssh? i've followed all the directions in the README.Debian, but I'm prompted for the passphrase each time anyway. has anyone got this working? |
| 02:20.56 | jetscreamer | there is no google |
| 02:20.58 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: specify what that is, and if I don't, how do I get it going. |
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| 02:21.05 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 02:21.13 | zimmo | void google |
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| 02:21.35 | abrotman | Spiritus55: there's a systray of sorts for gnome |
| 02:21.38 | coldsteal | can i use apt-cache with -t etch-backports ? |
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| 02:21.43 | stoned | anyone |
| 02:21.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: what's that to do with pam? |
| 02:21.49 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: define how to open it, please? |
| 02:21.55 | jetscreamer | stoned: #mplayer ? |
| 02:21.58 | stoned | nope |
| 02:22.00 | bintut | what's the right debian port for an intel quad-core xeon e5320 processor? |
| 02:22.00 | abrotman | Spiritus55: the systray ? |
| 02:22.01 | R4M0N | enouf: it looks ok to me... i'll reboot to debian right now to see how it works |
| 02:22.03 | enouf | stoned: #mplayer? |
| 02:22.08 | stoned | no goddamit |
| 02:22.16 | jetscreamer | i know |
| 02:22.17 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: I told you, I installed debian last night. |
| 02:22.19 | stoned | they help with mplayer issues |
| 02:22.22 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: it's supposed to decrypt one's ssh identity with the login password |
| 02:22.23 | abrotman | Spiritus55: turn on the Notification Area |
| 02:22.23 | jetscreamer | buy a 386 |
| 02:22.23 | stoned | not with debian related stuff |
| 02:22.24 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: please, just bear with me. |
| 02:22.35 | enouf | stoned: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 02:22.42 | enouf | oh |
| 02:22.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: well, but that is done without pam also... |
| 02:22.52 | stoned | enouf: ok, read the quick way... |
| 02:22.53 | abrotman | Spiritus55: and when you run "gdesklets" .. it'll add a puzzle looking icon |
| 02:22.57 | stoned | enouf: umm.. WHAT!? |
| 02:23.04 | stoned | all it says is to install ia32libs |
| 02:23.06 | stoned | then what? |
| 02:23.07 | abrotman | Spiritus55: then you right click on it and "manage applets |
| 02:23.08 | abrotman | "" |
| 02:23.11 | stoned | how do you run the 32bit apps? |
| 02:23.12 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: right - but this unifies the login password and the identity passphrase, so they don't have to be typed in twice |
| 02:23.18 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: oh, that's already in the top right corner. |
| 02:23.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: sounded like you want to get non-password authentification to work... |
| 02:23.25 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: I'm pretty sure. |
| 02:23.28 | jetscreamer | why don't we do it in the road |
| 02:23.32 | abrotman | Spiritus55: okay .. so right click on it |
| 02:23.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: and wouldnt really care about pam? |
| 02:23.36 | Spiritus55 | THE BEATLES! |
| 02:23.42 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: i have non-password auth working. |
| 02:23.43 | stoned | fuck the beatles man |
| 02:23.46 | jetscreamer | !win Spiritus55 |
| 02:23.46 | dpkg | Congratulations, Spiritus55! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:23.48 | abrotman | Spiritus55: stay with me! |
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| 02:23.52 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: this is a passphrase to my key, not to a remote host |
| 02:23.54 | enouf | http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/multiarch/ |
| 02:24.00 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: sorry, I'm still here. |
| 02:24.04 | stoned | enouf: what?? |
| 02:24.07 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:24.11 | jetscreamer | stoned: they have good stuff |
| 02:24.17 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: http://pam-ssh.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:24.24 | abrotman | Spiritus55: anyways .. you "manage applets" and then choose the ones you want |
| 02:24.26 | enouf | stoned: try a diff bong |
| 02:24.33 | jetscreamer | stoned: there's kickass classical also |
| 02:24.38 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: just double click on them? |
| 02:24.43 | muhoo | aauugh! |
| 02:24.53 | muhoo | splash screens are EVIL |
| 02:24.56 | stoned | 10:19 < enouf> stoned: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 02:24.59 | abrotman | Spiritus55: right click works for me :) |
| 02:24.59 | stoned | enouf: read it |
| 02:25.03 | eshaase | amphi: what packages is iptraf in? |
| 02:25.08 | stoned | then tell me how to launch 32bit apps with ia32libs |
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| 02:25.17 | enouf | install ia32-libs, you read it |
| 02:25.17 | jetscreamer | !tell eshaase -about search |
| 02:25.21 | abrotman | !find iptraf etch |
| 02:25.26 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: shweet! |
| 02:25.26 | stoned | enouf: and then what? |
| 02:25.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: so the normal debian-ssh is not using pam, you're saying? |
| 02:25.29 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'iptraf' (2): (/usr/lib/cruft/filters/iptraf) in admin/cruft ;; (/usr/sbin/iptraf, /usr/share/menu/iptraf, /etc/logrotate.d/iptraf) in net/iptraf. |
| 02:25.34 | abrotman | Spiritus55: get it going ? |
| 02:25.35 | enouf | https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292806 |
| 02:25.35 | stoned | enouf: ia32-libs package contains no relevant documentation |
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| 02:25.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkudria: I thought everyting uses pam by now :) |
| 02:25.42 | enouf | play with yourself |
| 02:25.50 | jetscreamer | pammy does miami |
| 02:25.57 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: yeah, it's pretty bad. |
| 02:26.06 | bintut | what's the right debian port for an intel quad-core xeon e5320 processor? is it the amd64 port debian etch? |
| 02:26.06 | abrotman | bad is good ? |
| 02:26.08 | Spiritus55 | abrotman: which is the one that's like a panel, and you can put short cuts in it? |
| 02:26.14 | bkudria | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah...i use pam too. but i also log into remote hosts via ssh |
| 02:26.17 | stoned | so basically you're useless in this matter |
| 02:26.20 | abrotman | bintut: either amd64 or i385 |
| 02:26.22 | abrotman | bintut: either amd64 or i386 |
| 02:26.24 | stoned | coulda just said, I don't know. |
| 02:26.24 | jetscreamer | i believe so bintut but i can't swear |
| 02:26.25 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 02:26.27 | enouf | gah i meant https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205 |
| 02:26.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | gottago |
| 02:26.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | laters |
| 02:26.37 | jetscreamer | GAH! |
| 02:26.39 | jetscreamer | ciao |
| 02:27.03 | stoned | The quick way There is already a minimal set of IA32 libraries packaged for use in a 64bit Debian system. Simply type: |
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| 02:27.06 | stoned | apt-get install ia32-libs and you will be able to run most 32bit binaries within your system. In other words, you don't need a whole chroot to run quite a few programs: installing ia32-libs is a solution for most cases. |
| 02:27.10 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.11 | stoned | is my fucking question man |
| 02:27.18 | bintut | abrotman: which is the right port? i believe that the intel quad-core xeon e5320 processor is a 64bit processor.. |
| 02:27.21 | jetscreamer | just do it i suspect |
| 02:27.23 | stoned | it doesn' say, all it says is to install the damn package, which also contains no information |
| 02:27.29 | enouf | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/519 ,-- not loading atm though |
| 02:27.30 | stoned | no documentation in the package itself either |
| 02:27.32 | abrotman | bintut: either is correct |
| 02:27.35 | jetscreamer | install it and run the 32bit app |
| 02:27.39 | jetscreamer | seems to me |
| 02:27.39 | stoned | enouf: yeh it times out for me too |
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| 02:27.48 | jetscreamer | automagic |
| 02:27.53 | stoned | oh really |
| 02:27.54 | jetscreamer | viola! |
| 02:27.56 | brianski | is there a way to do an apt-get dist-DOWNgrade ? |
| 02:27.56 | stoned | could it really be this simple? |
| 02:27.58 | jetscreamer | i'm guessing |
| 02:27.59 | jetscreamer | but hey |
| 02:28.00 | enouf | stoned: google cache? |
| 02:28.02 | jetscreamer | i bet it is |
| 02:28.04 | amphi | eshaase: it's own IIRC |
| 02:28.07 | stoned | hmm |
| 02:28.17 | abrotman | !downgrade |
| 02:28.17 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 02:28.17 | jetscreamer | brianski: yes |
| 02:28.20 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 02:28.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install |
| 02:28.20 | brianski | our colo people are morons and upgraded one of our servers to etch |
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| 02:28.41 | bintut | abrotman: ok, i'll use amd64 then. because for sure, afaik, using i386 will not utilize all the power of having this type of processor |
| 02:28.41 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 02:28.49 | enouf | the ny 'blankees' are on |
| 02:28.53 | brianski | err s/etch/lenny from etch/ |
| 02:28.58 | abrotman | bintut: debatable |
| 02:29.16 | muhoo | fucking startup splash screen |
| 02:29.22 | muhoo | those things should be illegal |
| 02:29.31 | bintut | abrotman: are you a man of few words? :) |
| 02:29.32 | muhoo | dominating my goddamned window while an app starts up. |
| 02:29.44 | bintut | abrotman: joking only.. thanks anyway.. :) |
| 02:29.46 | abrotman | bintut: eh? :) |
| 02:29.51 | muhoo | then leaving a big empty rectangle if the app doesn't start up correctly |
| 02:30.02 | muhoo | blotting out a bunch of working useful apps' windows |
| 02:30.13 | muhoo | !kill splash screens |
| 02:30.15 | abrotman | bintut: there are some things in i386 that may not work in amd64 |
| 02:30.32 | muhoo | supercollider |
| 02:30.32 | jetscreamer | turn the splash screen off |
| 02:30.34 | muhoo | flash |
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| 02:30.40 | muhoo | chuck |
| 02:30.50 | muhoo | all dead on ams64 |
| 02:30.53 | muhoo | amd64 too |
| 02:31.00 | ameyer | !kill Barry Bonds |
| 02:31.04 | muhoo | jetscreamer: you have to get the app to load first |
| 02:31.12 | bintut | abrotman: like what? this is actually a dell poweredge 1950 1u server |
| 02:31.22 | muhoo | if it fails, it leaves you with a dead hole in the screen |
| 02:31.23 | abrotman | bintut: depends what you're using |
| 02:31.24 | coldsteal | i added backports but how do i get sigc++-2.0 i still cant find it |
| 02:31.24 | brianski | jetscreamer: won't that cause problems with stale lenny things sitting on disk? |
| 02:31.39 | abrotman | bintut: most things work now .. but a few select items still don't |
| 02:31.42 | bintut | abrotman: for a web server with cms mostly? |
| 02:31.43 | muhoo | !dope barry bonds |
| 02:31.44 | enouf | arod clobbers it |
| 02:31.54 | abrotman | bintut: sounds reasonable for amd64 |
| 02:32.07 | jetscreamer | brianski: i'm a big 'back up /home and some /etc stuff and bare metal it' fan |
| 02:32.30 | jetscreamer | i use the second portion of that factoid |
| 02:32.31 | enouf | !info sigc++-2.0 |
| 02:32.33 | brianski | jetscreamer: ah ok |
| 02:32.38 | jetscreamer | --get-selections |
| 02:32.40 | jetscreamer | et al |
| 02:32.42 | brianski | jetscreamer: yeah my plan is to do a double debootstrap to reinstall |
| 02:32.44 | bintut | abrotman: i think this one ==> http://tinyurl.com/3dl4gr |
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| 02:33.01 | jetscreamer | tell them to restore from backup brianski |
| 02:33.02 | bintut | abrotman: SAS hard disks |
| 02:33.06 | R4M0N | im back with the same issue :( |
| 02:33.06 | jetscreamer | they have some somewhere eh? |
| 02:33.20 | R4M0N | jescreamer: same thing after i changed /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:33.22 | muhoo | ok, third goddamned CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE for tonight |
| 02:33.27 | brianski | jetscreamer: there is none. this is their second go at installing the machine. the first time they got the partitions wrong and installed 32-bit instead of 64-bit |
| 02:33.31 | bintut | abrotman: is the SAS hard disk supported already? especially on debian etch amd64? |
| 02:33.34 | R4M0N | Error while initializing device: no such device |
| 02:33.36 | brianski | then last night they couldn't figure out how to install at all |
| 02:33.36 | enouf | r4mon noodles? |
| 02:33.37 | abrotman | bintut: SAS works in i38u6 for me |
| 02:33.40 | jetscreamer | R4M0N: no idea then |
| 02:33.43 | muhoo | sudo apt-get remove cecilia |
| 02:33.44 | brianski | then tonite they screwed it up in this unique way |
| 02:33.48 | abrotman | bintut: on i386 etch |
| 02:33.50 | enouf | ah r4men noodles? |
| 02:33.59 | brianski | rackspace might be good, but not so much if you run debian :( |
| 02:33.59 | coldsteal | enouf: so is sigc++-2.0 not for debian or something |
| 02:34.09 | coldsteal | im tring to get rtorrent 7x |
| 02:34.16 | bintut | abrotman: ok.. it should work on debian etch amd64 |
| 02:34.20 | muhoo | heh, suprnova.org is back |
| 02:34.20 | enouf | coldsteal: doesn't seem to be the correct pkgname - or doesn't exist |
| 02:34.23 | abrotman | bintut: AFAIK .. yes |
| 02:34.30 | coldsteal | but i cant compile cuz im missing sigc++-2.0 |
| 02:34.33 | bintut | abrotman: thanks.. :) |
| 02:34.34 | R4M0N | enouf: in that file it says DEVICE="?*" on every line, is something missing from there or is it just me? :) |
| 02:34.40 | enouf | compile what? |
| 02:34.45 | enouf | and why? |
| 02:34.47 | abrotman | bintut: there's also #debian-amd64 on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:34.54 | enouf | R4M0N: er yes |
| 02:34.57 | jetscreamer | !info libsigc++-dev |
| 02:34.58 | R4M0N | sorry, DRIVER |
| 02:35.00 | dpkg | libsigc++-dev: (Type-safe Signal Framework for C++ - development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-9.1 (sid), Packaged size: 69 kB, Installed size: 516 kB |
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| 02:35.49 | kowi | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=3954 |
| 02:35.49 | jetscreamer | try experimental or upstream |
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| 02:35.50 | enouf | R4M0N: pastebin output of udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/net/eth0 (also then do eth1 and eth2 ) |
| 02:35.56 | jetscreamer | !info libsigc++-dev experimental |
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| 02:36.08 | bintut | abrotman: ok.. thanks.. but, i just want to ask on what's the right port for my processor.. thanks again.. :) |
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| 02:36.32 | abrotman | bintut: amd64 is better for most things ... i386 for select things |
| 02:36.32 | amphi | coldsteal: isn't there a backport? I have 0.7.4 here on testing |
| 02:36.35 | enouf | SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:04:5b:8d:2b:f5", NAME="eth0 <-- R4M0N |
| 02:36.43 | R4M0N | enouf: i will but its a dualboot system so i'll have to reboot to debian and write down every output on paper so its a bit slow |
| 02:37.01 | enouf | R4M0N: that's ok, i'l be sleeping by then ;-) |
| 02:37.01 | bintut | abrotman: yes.. :) |
| 02:37.07 | jetscreamer | no save it to a file |
| 02:37.09 | R4M0N | enouf: SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:00:6c:ed:53:1e", NAME="eth0" this is mine |
| 02:37.10 | abrotman | bintut: basically .. try amd64 .. if no workie .. go to i386 |
| 02:37.11 | jetscreamer | cat it |
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| 02:37.23 | bintut | abrotman: ok.. |
| 02:37.27 | coldsteal | amphi: when i do apt-get -t etch-backports install rtorrent it installs 6x |
| 02:37.28 | coil | friend installed (sigh) vista on his computer that had debian on a diff hd, so vista over wrote the boot record, how do i fix so he can boot either os's |
| 02:37.34 | enouf | see /usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules R4M0N |
| 02:37.43 | coil | i got the installation cd and did recovery mode |
| 02:37.52 | jetscreamer | grub-install hd0 |
| 02:37.57 | hackmiker | can someone paste the default file for apache found in /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default (there might also be a distribution file in there, i prefer it) into my privmsg? thanks |
| 02:38.04 | enouf | ok, and ifconfig -a show it correctly R4M0N ? |
| 02:38.05 | coil | typed in grub, gives me an error saying cannot find bterm |
| 02:38.12 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 02:38.18 | jetscreamer | i hate that |
| 02:38.24 | R4M0N | enouf: ifconfig dies all the time with the error: no such device |
| 02:38.35 | enouf | huh? |
| 02:38.47 | enouf | R4M0N: you're not telling us much of the story ;-) |
| 02:38.53 | jetscreamer | coil: i wind up used a grub floppy or cd to boot the os then grub-install hd0 |
| 02:38.54 | coldsteal | amphi: what would the install command be? |
| 02:39.06 | jetscreamer | s/used/using/ |
| 02:39.08 | enouf | R4M0N: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
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| 02:39.27 | amphi | coldsteal: eh? |
| 02:39.29 | CartoonCat | Hello all |
| 02:39.32 | enouf | or as sudo/su/root |
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| 02:39.46 | R4M0N | enouf: ok i'll try this right now but i'll have to reboot so brb |
| 02:40.13 | rebo123_ | hi guys |
| 02:40.19 | CartoonCat | I have a odd DNS issue, apt-get keeps seeing everything as 1.0.0.0, google'n says its a name server issue, but everything resloves fine with ping |
| 02:40.41 | CartoonCat | Any other items that can cause this issue? |
| 02:41.17 | abrotman | CartoonCat: try to use nslookup to resolve against another dns server |
| 02:41.22 | rebo123 | Is there a package/program that will keep statistics on network transfers? |
| 02:41.29 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 02:41.52 | rebo123 | Particularly, I'd like to keep tabs on how much has been transferred in a given hour/day/week/month/year |
| 02:42.01 | coil | thanks jetscreamer |
| 02:42.19 | coldsteal | amphi: hello okay so when i try to install rtorrent from backports i get 0.6x this is what i do apt-get -t etch-backports install rtorrent... is there a way to specify i want 0.7? |
| 02:42.24 | CartoonCat | abrotman: doing it on the one I use, or against another, comes back fine, its <only> apt-get/aptitude that have the issue |
| 02:42.36 | rebo123 | And if possible, to keep track of how much network traffic was consumed by a given application/process |
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| 02:42.43 | amphi | coldsteal: not if it's not packaged |
| 02:42.49 | CartoonCat | If I run a ping while I do the apt-get/aptitude, then it works |
| 02:43.01 | amphi | coldsteal: why do you need 0.7.x ? |
| 02:43.04 | coldsteal | amphi: :( well how do you have 0.7 then? |
| 02:43.26 | abrotman | CartoonCat: nslookup www.google.com ? |
| 02:43.29 | jetscreamer | !tell coldsteal -about simple sid backport |
| 02:43.32 | coldsteal | amphi: because one of the functions for a script i wrote only works with 0.7.2 and higher |
| 02:43.37 | amphi | coldsteal: I'm running the testing branch |
| 02:43.42 | jetscreamer | it's 7 something in sid iirc |
| 02:43.43 | amphi | coldsteal: ah |
| 02:43.55 | jetscreamer | !info rtorrent |
| 02:43.59 | amphi | 0.7.4 in testing ATM |
| 02:43.59 | dpkg | rtorrent: (ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent), section net, is extra. Version: 0.7.4-2+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 283 kB, Installed size: 712 kB |
| 02:44.06 | Spyro_boy | rawr. |
| 02:44.38 | abrotman | !info rtorrent etch |
| 02:44.42 | enouf | redo your scripts |
| 02:44.43 | dpkg | rtorrent: (ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent), section net, is extra. Version: 0.6.4-1 (etch), Packaged size: 320 kB, Installed size: 864 kB |
| 02:44.45 | |porta| | !wifi |
| 02:44.45 | dpkg | hmm... wifi is a silly name for 802.11b wireless networking. |
| 02:44.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:44.55 | abrotman | !wireless |
| 02:44.56 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or ask me about <rtl-wifi> for Linksys WPC11 or Netgear WG111v2. |
| 02:44.59 | |porta| | ty |
| 02:45.02 | jetscreamer | what i do sometimes is just change sources, apt-get install the package i want, then change back |
| 02:45.10 | jetscreamer | i do that with chromium |
| 02:45.19 | jetscreamer | it's not in testing for some weird reason |
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| 02:46.05 | enouf | !why is rtorrent not in testing |
| 02:46.05 | dpkg | rtorrent is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=rtorrent |
| 02:46.08 | Spiritus55 | Well, got the gdesklets going. |
| 02:46.12 | Spiritus55 | Now, I want some cooler ones. |
| 02:46.18 | jetscreamer | who said rtorrent isn't in testing |
| 02:46.20 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 02:46.27 | jetscreamer | !beer enouf |
| 02:46.28 | enouf | :-P |
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| 02:46.37 | jetscreamer | chromium isn't |
| 02:46.43 | jetscreamer | rockin little game |
| 02:46.44 | abrotman | !gdesklets |
| 02:46.51 | abrotman | argh .. gdesklets.de |
| 02:47.14 | Spiritus55 | That's where I'm looking. |
| 02:47.14 | Xenguy | !why is drupal not in fucking stable |
| 02:47.15 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, Xenguy |
| 02:47.21 | Xenguy | hrm |
| 02:47.22 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 02:47.35 | abrotman | Xenguy: security issues .. it is PHP after all :) |
| 02:47.38 | isthatall | hi hi, I have a question.... my turtles, they seem to not like water very much, but I thought turtles liked water, is this the proper place to ask such a question? |
| 02:47.46 | ameyer | might help if you got rid of the f-bomb... |
| 02:47.47 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
| 02:47.48 | Xenguy | abrotman: I'm *still* pissed off |
| 02:47.56 | stoned | jetscreamer: pm |
| 02:47.56 | jetscreamer | turtle soup |
| 02:47.58 | R4M0N | enouf: ifconfig -a gives me a lo loop device and an eth6. no idea where it gets eth6 from and everything is 0. udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/net/eth0 output: device not found... also, during boot it get a msg: ETH0: Error while getting interface flags, no such device |
| 02:48.05 | abrotman | Xenguy: wait .. i'll try to sympathize ... |
| 02:48.09 | abrotman | nope .. failed |
| 02:48.22 | Xenguy | abrotman: never mind I have beer here ;-P |
| 02:48.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:48.31 | isthatall | I think their feet are getting rotted and such |
| 02:48.38 | stoned | there is something very confusing to me |
| 02:48.41 | CartoonCat | abrotman: Comes back fine, oddly it did time out once, but by no means as often as apt-get is doing |
| 02:48.46 | abrotman | isthatall: debian question ? |
| 02:48.51 | jetscreamer | stoned: i see no pm |
| 02:48.56 | R4M0N | enouf: i'm starting to think that im missing a kernel module |
| 02:49.00 | abrotman | CartoonCat: oh .. which debian host ? |
| 02:49.17 | isthatall | yes debian question |
| 02:49.29 | isthatall | they are rotted and such |
| 02:49.44 | jetscreamer | set them free where they can live well |
| 02:49.55 | CartoonCat | abrotman: all of them, mostly security. tho, that one i need to ping to get it to go at all |
| 02:50.03 | stoned | the amd64 port of Etch on a highly overclocked E6300 Core 2 at 3500MHz is highly unstable. Applications randomly crash and systems freezes up sometimes. Same hardware setup with 32bit Etch works 100% solid and stable. However, the amd64 release of ubuntu is as stable as can be on the highly overclocked cpu |
| 02:50.09 | karsten | enouf: I usually eat my steaks, I don't take them out drinking. |
| 02:50.13 | abrotman | i think security.d.o currently has a dead mirror |
| 02:50.20 | stoned | I was told that its the OC on my cpu which is causing issues on amd64 port |
| 02:50.26 | stoned | at least this is what I was told here |
| 02:50.27 | CartoonCat | what other then resolv.conf can effect the dns server list? i bet something is screwy |
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| 02:50.38 | jetscreamer | stoned: stock kernel? |
| 02:50.42 | stoned | so why come there is a huge difference in the stability of amd64 under ubuntu or debian |
| 02:50.46 | stoned | jetscreamer: yessir |
| 02:50.53 | jetscreamer | that would probably be why |
| 02:50.59 | stoned | what do you mean? |
| 02:51.24 | jetscreamer | exactly what i said? |
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| 02:51.35 | stoned | amd64 at high overclock under ubuntu is solid and stable, but in etch, it is crazy. |
| 02:51.36 | isthatall | is this not the proper place to discuss turtles? I thought turtles were debian? oh crap, it's amphibian...is that right? my english not so good |
| 02:51.51 | stoned | what does a stock or custom kernel have to do with this? |
| 02:52.03 | abrotman | isthatall: seriously .. stop being an ass |
| 02:52.13 | jetscreamer | try using the ubuntu kernel in debian |
| 02:52.15 | jetscreamer | and see |
| 02:52.36 | stoned | so what are you saying? |
| 02:52.42 | Spiritus55 | Hey, I'm getting limewire. |
| 02:52.44 | jetscreamer | there are certain things in the config that could affect it |
| 02:52.47 | Spiritus55 | Where should I download it to? |
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| 02:52.58 | Spiritus55 | And after it downloads, what commands to install it? |
| 02:53.01 | Spiritus55 | ./configure |
| 02:53.02 | Spiritus55 | make |
| 02:53.03 | stoned | jetscreamer: for example...? |
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| 02:53.04 | Spiritus55 | make install? |
| 02:53.13 | jetscreamer | things i change regularly.. but i know nothing of o/c'ing under linux, or amd64 |
| 02:53.22 | jetscreamer | like the latecyh |
| 02:53.27 | jetscreamer | latcency |
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| 02:53.30 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 02:53.33 | jetscreamer | latency |
| 02:53.39 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: you're on the wrong track me thinks |
| 02:53.42 | Spiritus55 | ? |
| 02:53.46 | Spiritus55 | What do you mean? |
| 02:54.00 | abrotman | they're python IIRC .. you just drop them in a directory i think |
| 02:54.00 | jetscreamer | so dpkg -i ubuntukernel.deb and test |
| 02:54.01 | stoned | well |
| 02:54.09 | abrotman | jetscreamer: then cry :) |
| 02:54.24 | jeffwheeler | I want to try compiling Epiphany from source (I'm running Sid), but don't want to screw up the current package or have a mess of random files throughout my system; what is the best way to compile general software from source without making a mess? |
| 02:54.24 | jetscreamer | why cry.. it won't break anything |
| 02:54.30 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: use a client native to Linux rather than Limewire... |
| 02:54.33 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you hope |
| 02:54.34 | stoned | jetscreamer: pm |
| 02:54.42 | jeffwheeler | My guess is packaging it up myself when compiling, but I know nothing about that. |
| 02:54.42 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: gnutella is one |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | jeffwheeler: stow might work |
| 02:54.48 | jetscreamer | stoned: still no pm |
| 02:54.50 | Spiritus55 | gnutella? |
| 02:54.56 | Spiritus55 | Is that a p2p program? |
| 02:54.57 | stoned | jetscreamer: im identified |
| 02:55.05 | abrotman | gtk-gnutella is a p2p app |
| 02:55.09 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: apt-cache show gnutella |
| 02:55.16 | abrotman | there's also gift |
| 02:55.19 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: yes, p2p |
| 02:55.25 | jetscreamer | gIFT |
| 02:55.29 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: uses same network as Limewire |
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| 02:55.56 | jeffwheeler | abrotman: is that what most people use? This seems like it would be a pretty common problem. |
| 02:55.58 | Spiritus55 | Oh, but it's for linux? |
| 02:56.11 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: yes, an app native to Linux |
| 02:56.12 | enouf | karsten: i take them out drinking and then i eat them ;-) |
| 02:56.19 | abrotman | jeffwheeler: there are many ways to od it |
| 02:56.20 | Spiritus55 | W: Unable to locate package gnutella |
| 02:56.21 | Spiritus55 | E: No packages found |
| 02:56.29 | abrotman | Spiritus55: gtk-gnutella |
| 02:56.36 | Spiritus55 | spiritus55@Brenda:~$ apt-cache show gnutella |
| 02:56.50 | enouf | karsten: after all "she likes it done medium rare" ;-) |
| 02:56.56 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: what abrotman said |
| 02:56.59 | Spiritus55 | Still not found. |
| 02:56.59 | coldsteal | jetscreamer: when i add the sid src and try to build dependicies i get "Build-Depends dependency for rtorrent cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libtorrent-dev can satisfy version requirements" |
| 02:57.01 | ameyer | frostwire should work (if you like your MAFIAA lawsuit with a side of java)... |
| 02:57.05 | abrotman | Xenguy: i said it! |
| 02:57.19 | Spiritus55 | what is the search for apt again? |
| 02:57.20 | abrotman | gtk-gnutella didn't get released with etch iirc |
| 02:57.39 | Spiritus55 | That's why I'm using apt. |
| 02:57.51 | coldsteal | jetscreamer: so then i build the dependicies for libtorrent-dev |
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| 02:58.04 | kowi666 | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=3954 |
| 02:58.11 | abrotman | kowi666: don't do that |
| 02:58.16 | coldsteal | jetscreamer: and that works but i still cant do it for rtorrent |
| 02:58.42 | Spiritus55 | ? |
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| 02:59.01 | Spiritus55 | So, what do I do about getting gnutella? |
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| 03:00.03 | amphi | coldsteal: you could upgrade to testing ;) |
| 03:00.03 | Spiritus55 | Couldn't I just google 'download gnutella'? |
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| 03:00.40 | coldsteal | amphi: im running servers and i cant let it go down |
| 03:00.47 | piecesandbits | is it correct that apt-get is obsoleted for aptitude? |
| 03:00.59 | jetscreamer | couldn't you just apt-cache search gnutella and apt-get install something? |
| 03:01.10 | jetscreamer | !aptitude |
| 03:01.11 | dpkg | somebody said aptitude was "the preferred program for package management from console. aptitude supports most command line operations of apt-get and has proven to be better at dependency resolution than apt-get." (4.0 Release Notes). A mostly drop-in replacement for apt-get. Don't mix use of apt-get and aptitude. See <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>, http://tinyurl.com/2ebd4m http://tinyurl.com/2hw8nx http://tinyurl.com/2y783t |
| 03:01.37 | piecesandbits | cool...thx |
| 03:01.40 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: you don't need to google, you just use whatever 'mirror' site is configured in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:02.01 | Spiritus55 | apt-get install gnutella? |
| 03:02.10 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: if that is configured (it should be) then do: apt-get install gtk-gnutella |
| 03:02.16 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: you need to be root also |
| 03:02.23 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 03:02.39 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: if you want a GUI, use 'synaptic' |
| 03:02.39 | abrotman | !+info gtk-gnutella etch |
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| 03:02.41 | dpkg | Package 'gtk-gnutella' does not exist. |
| 03:02.47 | jetscreamer | wilson.. M wilson |
| 03:02.54 | Spiritus55 | What do you mean if "that" is configured? What is "that"? |
| 03:02.57 | jetscreamer | !find gnutella |
| 03:02.58 | Xenguy | abrotman: hrm, another one? |
| 03:02.59 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'gnutella' (2): gtk-gnutella ;; libgnutella-gift. |
| 03:03.04 | Dewi | what does "contrib" really mean? |
| 03:03.18 | jetscreamer | contributed |
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| 03:03.31 | abrotman | !contrib |
| 03:03.31 | dpkg | well, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in debian (possibly in contrib or non-free) To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 03:03.36 | Dewi | when I include a third party external library in one of my own projects... is that contrib? |
| 03:03.40 | Spiritus55 | E: Couldn't find package gtk-gnutella |
| 03:03.42 | Dewi | abrotman: yeah, I looked at that |
| 03:03.43 | coldsteal | how do i build-dep with aptitude? |
| 03:03.49 | enouf | man, the blankees are getting pounded like a new orleans levee |
| 03:04.11 | abrotman | enouf: that's good |
| 03:04.16 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: as abrotman has pointed out just now, that package seems conspicuously absent from debian stable :-p |
| 03:04.23 | jetscreamer | i thought that was normal |
| 03:04.24 | Spiritus55 | So, I can't get it? |
| 03:04.43 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: which sux actually |
| 03:04.45 | amphi | Spiritus55: backport perhaps? |
| 03:04.53 | Spiritus55 | Xenguy: do you suggest any other p2p programs? |
| 03:04.54 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: yeah, check for a backport |
| 03:05.00 | Spiritus55 | xenguy: thanks. |
| 03:05.03 | Spiritus55 | Xenguy: I will. |
| 03:05.06 | abrotman | Xenguy: not conspicuusously at all ... there's a good reason |
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| 03:05.14 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: there's bittorrent also, yes? |
| 03:05.20 | enouf | !tell Spiritus55 -about pdo |
| 03:05.44 | enouf | sinc she doesm't want to understand "search" |
| 03:05.47 | Xenguy | abrotman: absence of good software is sort of conspicuous to me (I'm not blaming, just noting :-) |
| 03:05.51 | Spiritus55 | spiritus55@Brenda:~$ sudo apt-cache show backport |
| 03:05.51 | Spiritus55 | W: Unable to locate package backport |
| 03:05.51 | Spiritus55 | E: No packages found |
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| 03:06.02 | enouf | rofl |
| 03:06.02 | abrotman | Xenguy: it's about the gnutella network ... |
| 03:06.06 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 03:06.09 | Xenguy | abrotman: really? |
| 03:06.20 | m0dY | anytool to convert from .ima to .iso files under debian ?? |
| 03:06.31 | jetscreamer | Spiritus55: perhaps you should take some more time to familiarize yourself with debian |
| 03:06.33 | enouf | Spiritus55: apt-cache doesn;t need root/sudo /so |
| 03:06.35 | Xenguy | abrotman: I had not heard anything |
| 03:06.37 | enouf | er su |
| 03:06.40 | abrotman | Xenguy: the gtk-gnutella faq kind of covers this |
| 03:06.47 | Spiritus55 | I just installed debian last night. |
| 03:06.51 | Spiritus55 | So, I'm working on it guys. |
| 03:06.51 | Xenguy | abrotman: guess it just needs reading :-) |
| 03:06.54 | jetscreamer | Spiritus55: perhaps you should take some more time to familiarize yourself with debian |
| 03:06.55 | Spiritus55 | Cut me some slack. |
| 03:07.01 | enouf | Spiritus55: grounding! |
| 03:07.06 | Xenguy | Spiritus55: it takes time - be patient :-) |
| 03:07.07 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 03:07.16 | abrotman | Xenguy: basically ... the protocol is outdated .. it could harm the gnutella network .. |
| 03:07.18 | Spiritus55 | Well, I'm gonna get off. |
| 03:07.23 | Spiritus55 | I'll see you guys tomorrow. |
| 03:07.26 | Xenguy | abrotman: sounds serious |
| 03:07.26 | Spiritus55 | Thanks for all your help. |
| 03:07.30 | Spiritus55 | Especially enouf. |
| 03:07.31 | Spiritus55 | <3 |
| 03:07.33 | abrotman | Xenguy: not really AFAICT |
| 03:07.35 | enouf | ;-) |
| 03:07.40 | abrotman | Xenguy: but that's their decision |
| 03:07.59 | Xenguy | abrotman: well there is more than 1 p2p option anyway |
| 03:08.07 | abrotman | Xenguy: sure |
| 03:09.05 | coldsteal | what is newer libsigc++-2.0-dev, libsigc++-2.0-0c2a, or libsigc++-dev ? |
| 03:09.25 | abrotman | apt-cache show |
| 03:09.32 | jetscreamer | try apt-cache show |
| 03:09.33 | abrotman | but IIRC .. the c2a |
| 03:09.35 | Xenguy | heh, that's a great question :-) |
| 03:10.04 | jetscreamer | the -dev is different than the c2a. |
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| 03:10.18 | jetscreamer | like a runtime or something i think |
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| 03:12.05 | enouf | wow, the blankees are pounding back, ..like a new orleans resident on michael brown's face |
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| 03:12.47 | jetscreamer | give us your tired, your poor, your terrorists, and your criminals |
| 03:12.53 | ameyer | -dev usually is just the header files... |
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| 03:13.17 | ameyer | only needed if you're compiling something that links to that lib |
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| 03:13.49 | enouf | gah .. they missed the "bus" (that never showed) ;-) |
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| 03:15.34 | Gargantua | hi |
| 03:15.47 | Gargantua | do I need the 3 dvds to install debian? |
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| 03:15.52 | enouf | no |
| 03:15.53 | Ronin | Gargantua: no |
| 03:16.03 | Gargantua | first one should cover the basic system, correct? |
| 03:16.11 | jetscreamer | and then some |
| 03:16.27 | ice63 | jest net instll cd |
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| 03:16.40 | Gargantua | how about Apache, dns server, file server, etc, are they included on the first dvd? |
| 03:16.43 | Ronin | Gargantua: yes and then you can get the rest using aptitude |
| 03:16.54 | Ronin | hmm, not sure if apache is on disk 1 |
| 03:16.59 | enouf | !cd contents |
| 03:16.59 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the cds: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search ; If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 03:17.20 | Gargantua | for some reason, netinst process keeps failing. |
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| 03:17.50 | jetscreamer | got windows? goodbye-windows.com |
| 03:18.04 | enouf | maybe you can be a bit more vague |
| 03:18.24 | enouf | !customer |
| 03:18.24 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 03:18.24 | jetscreamer | him go byebye |
| 03:18.43 | jetscreamer | !literal customer |
| 03:18.43 | dpkg | "customer" is "<REPLY> Another happy customer leaves the building" |
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| 03:19.08 | jetscreamer | a fork thingy with another customer happlily leaves the building |
| 03:19.33 | Wettoad | i am having problems with mime types being not recognized anymore, has anyone experienced this and possily know what package i am missing? |
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| 03:19.52 | karsten | Wettoad: What browser? Assuming it's a browser issue. If not, what desktop? |
| 03:20.09 | Wettoad | karsten: KDE, juk, and audacious |
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| 03:20.31 | Wettoad | karsten: more as well under testing... |
| 03:20.43 | karsten | Wettoad: KDE has its own mime-type management, and I suspect you've got some KDE helper process that's died. Have you restarted the desktop? |
| 03:20.59 | Wettoad | karsten: yes |
| 03:21.13 | oCrypticfrtune | ok, so i just got a lenovo 7397A14 to use as a small router/webserver and am trying to install etch onto it, but am failing on the "install LILO" step because it can't seem to write to the MBR. i don't see anything in the BIOS about "write protect the MBR" or anything like that...ideas anyone? |
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| 03:22.12 | Wettoad | karsten: ok it fixed itself maybe.... |
| 03:22.48 | karsten | Wettoad: I've found KDE gets wonky occasionally when it doesn't have all its helpers running, though I can't always keep straight what those are. |
| 03:26.12 | Wettoad | karsten: thanks for the hand holding |
| 03:26.37 | karsten | Wettoad: NP |
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| 03:29.06 | karsten | What does raw(8) do, exactly? linux-utils |
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| 03:31.19 | karsten | setsid is another puzzler. |
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| 03:33.19 | karsten | Ah... man setsid(2) and all is clear |
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| 03:33.55 | karsten | Fun: namei $( which vim ) |
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| 03:35.19 | karsten | And of course, ddate. |
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| 03:44.28 | yigal | who is drunk as a whore and horny as a rose |
| 03:44.44 | Guerin | yigal: lindsay lohan |
| 03:44.53 | yigal | Guerin: lol |
| 03:44.59 | oCrypticfrtune | yigal: aren't roses thorny, not horny? |
| 03:45.27 | yigal | oCrypticfrtune: it has to do with the 1st part |
| 03:46.35 | karsten | A woman commented that she couldn't pick LL out of a lineup. |
| 03:46.54 | karsten | "Easy: she's the chesty red-head with the white nose" |
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| 03:49.03 | sarixe | how do i get xine to play mp3? |
| 03:49.18 | streuner | heh |
| 03:49.23 | karsten | !tell sarixe about marillat |
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| 03:50.28 | sarixe | karsten : thanks |
| 03:50.31 | yigal | marillat is good i like him, good guy |
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| 03:54.31 | yigal | i'm going to #ubuntu to solve some newbie question so I can feel good about myself, how pathetic |
| 03:54.44 | karsten | More in the linux-utils collection: elvtune. For when you need to tune your Elvises. |
| 03:54.45 | Award | Is there any way to re-add a drive that wrongly failed out of an md array into the array? |
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| 03:57.43 | karsten | Award: man mdadm, I suppose. |
| 03:58.16 | Award | karsten: Yeah, sadly I didn't find anything in there on it :( |
| 03:58.27 | Award | karsten: I'm losing faith in RAD (hardware and software) rapidly. |
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| 03:58.40 | Award | karsten: It's my second array failure (different hardware) in 2 months (all of it new hardware) |
| 03:58.44 | karsten | Award: Not my current area of expertise, try me tomorrow as I'm supposed be be setting up SW RAID + LVM |
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| 03:58.54 | karsten | Award: awrray or disk? |
| 03:58.59 | karsten | s/aw/a/ |
| 03:59.06 | Award | karsten: Array :( |
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| 03:59.39 | ftp3 | question: i have 2 debian machines.. I turned of a virtual ip on one, and turned it on on the other. the ip is dead on the old machine, and it is on (can ping) on the new machine.. but I cannot ping the IP from anywhere but the new machine... anyone have any idea where I troubleshoot this? |
| 03:59.46 | Award | karsten: 2 drives randomly dropped out....the controller likely marked the second one bad along with the first for no reason. Whether EITHER of them is actually bad or not, I can't say. |
| 04:00.06 | ftp3 | of=off |
| 04:00.12 | karsten | Award: HW or software raid? |
| 04:00.16 | Award | karsten: Thankfully this was only running for 4 days before the failure, so it's not much in the way of lost data...but it's uber frustrating that you can do very little for data reliability. |
| 04:00.42 | Award | karsten: the one 2 months ago was windows/Intel "fake raid" (though the more reliable ones), the one today is linux soft raid |
| 04:01.11 | karsten | Award: The Windows fakey shit is absolutely worthless. Linux soft raid is supposed to be pretty good. |
| 04:01.20 | karsten | Award: Alternatively, 3Ware. |
| 04:02.02 | Award | karsten: Yeah, but I've heard of similar things happening on 3Wares too...it's not the linux or Intel implementations, I think...I'm starting to think RAID itself (SATA RAID, not SCSI RAID) is simply unreliable. |
| 04:02.20 | Award | karsten: I'm tempted to just go with JBOD and a bunch of backups....thus no expectations of reliability to shatter :) |
| 04:02.57 | karsten | Award: My own inclinations lean that way. |
| 04:03.11 | Award | karsten: Unfortunately this machine was supposed to be the file server and I"ve spent all week setting it up. A huge data array (4x500GB WD RE2 drives) |
| 04:03.12 | karsten | Award: If you want redundancy, fully independent servers. |
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| 04:06.50 | xjkx | How do I know if my video card supports openGL ? |
| 04:08.16 | karsten | xjkx: Try loading the GL drivers in X. |
| 04:08.29 | xjkx | karsten: how |
| 04:08.30 | karsten | xjkx: If they work, great. If they don't, either your card, or the driver, doesn't support them. |
| 04:08.59 | karsten | xjkx: "load "glx" in the Module section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 04:09.13 | xjkx | I dont know how to load gl drivers in x, never used such thing |
| 04:09.33 | xjkx | uhmm |
| 04:09.44 | karsten | xjkx: You'll want to check the X log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:10.04 | karsten | xjkx: Edit / reconfigure /etc/xorg.conf |
| 04:10.07 | xjkx | bad news, i am using xfree |
| 04:10.17 | karsten | xjkx: Get with the times. |
| 04:10.22 | karsten | xjkx: Same basic idea though. |
| 04:10.37 | xjkx | /XF86Config-4? |
| 04:10.49 | karsten | xjkx: Yeah, sounds about right. |
| 04:10.57 | karsten | xjkx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:11.11 | karsten | xjkx: Select dlx among the modules when asked. |
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| 04:13.26 | xjkx | karsten: lets say I use sis~, its almost sure that it doesnt support right? |
| 04:13.32 | xjkx | Its onboard :p |
| 04:13.43 | karsten | xjkx: You're f*cked, yeah. |
| 04:14.06 | karsten | xjkx: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86*/ should have a list of drivers and supported features. |
| 04:14.12 | karsten | xjkx: SIS is a pretty basic card. |
| 04:14.19 | xjkx | :< i think i have to buy a new one |
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| 04:15.40 | karsten | xjkx: Hrm. The xorg changelog suggests GLX was added Sun Jul 31 17:19:29 2005 +0000 |
| 04:15.47 | karsten | xjkx: Not sure that that's functional though. |
| 04:16.04 | karsten | xjkx: You could ask gravity when he's around (maintains X stuff). |
| 04:16.49 | unilynx | I'm having trouble with automount. It seemed to be working fine, but ever since I upgraded to testing I've had to reinstall a few packages that were removed during the dist-upgrade for some reason. Any ideas on what to do with the automount issue? |
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| 04:17.59 | karsten | unilynx: Erm, other than requiring reinstallation, what's the issue? |
| 04:19.00 | unilynx | requiring reinstallation? and why would i do that, there's no need to |
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| 04:19.46 | unilynx | i guess i'm mixed up on what i would reinstall if that is the case |
| 04:20.07 | hooloo | Which version of Debian do you guys use? |
| 04:21.17 | karsten | hooloo: Frequently one or more of: stable, testing, or unstable. |
| 04:21.21 | Guerin | hooloo: all of them |
| 04:21.25 | karsten | !tell hooloo about polls |
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| 04:21.49 | Batch | Hey |
| 04:21.50 | karsten | unilynx: I guess I don't understand what the problem is. |
| 04:21.50 | Guerin | this is like asking `what do you use, a knife, a fork or a spoon?' the only answer is `they all have different uses' |
| 04:22.33 | Batch | I have debian and the sound only comes out of the internal speakers and i need it to come out of the headphones aswell, any ideas? |
| 04:22.55 | karsten | Batch: Plug your headphones into the headphone jack, not the microphone jack. |
| 04:22.55 | Guerin | Batch: suggest you plug the speakers in |
| 04:23.00 | Batch | I have |
| 04:23.06 | Batch | Its not in the mic jack |
| 04:23.12 | Guerin | then take your laptop back and tell them it's broken |
| 04:23.22 | karsten | Batch: Sounds like a HW problem. On most systems that will autoswitch. |
| 04:23.24 | Guerin | because any mic jack will cut input to the speakers |
| 04:23.31 | Batch | HW? |
| 04:23.32 | Guerin | it should be done electronically |
| 04:23.44 | karsten | Batch: aumix and/or alsamixer may give you mixer settings, but I seriously doubt it. |
| 04:23.47 | karsten | !HW |
| 04:23.47 | dpkg | it has been said that hw is not software |
| 04:23.56 | karsten | Batch: hw == hardware |
| 04:24.00 | Batch | I see |
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| 04:24.48 | Batch | And often, the sound device is used by another application |
| 04:24.59 | Guerin | Batch: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 04:26.02 | Batch | Hrmm |
| 04:26.04 | Batch | Ok thanks |
| 04:26.11 | Batch | Ill see if that helps |
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| 04:27.28 | unilynx | i figured it out, i didn't have the "gnome-volume-manager" package installed. I'm still confused why these were removed when i upgraded to testing. any ideas on that? |
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| 04:28.16 | karsten | unilynx: /var/log/aptitude should log your adds/deletes and reasons |
| 04:28.53 | unilynx | thanks |
| 04:28.54 | streuner | Guerin: moo |
| 04:29.19 | karsten | streuner: Guerin has no super cow powers. |
| 04:29.29 | Guerin | :( |
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| 04:30.07 | karsten | Guerin -vvvv moo |
| 04:30.44 | RudyValencia | Does Debian have a kernel optimized for servers available? |
| 04:31.00 | Guerin | RudyValencia: yes. It's called kernel-image-2.6-$ARCH |
| 04:31.15 | RudyValencia | oh? |
| 04:31.25 | RudyValencia | that's what I already have, I think |
| 04:31.35 | Guerin | yes. |
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| 04:32.22 | RudyValencia | So you're saying that Debian's kernel is already optimal for server use? |
| 04:32.30 | Guerin | RudyValencia: of course. |
| 04:32.31 | streuner | yes |
| 04:32.52 | Guerin | are you under some sort of impression that to be great for one task necessarily means it must be crap for others? |
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| 04:33.10 | Guerin | the only thing debian kernels aren't optimised for is size and low-latency |
| 04:33.33 | Guerin | but if you have needs that specialised you likely need to be doing your own anyhow |
| 04:33.39 | karsten | RudyValencia: You can tune additional parameters via sysctl if you want. |
| 04:33.54 | RudyValencia | no, just thought that there might be separate "server" and "desktop" configurations that are optimized for their specific role |
| 04:34.18 | Guerin | RudyValencia: since 99% of what a kernel does is support hardware, I don't see how much use that would be. |
| 04:34.41 | RudyValencia | oh |
| 04:35.12 | dummy123 | hello folks. i have a dell dimension 2350 system with intel 845G chipset. it has an integrated agp card. i put in a 3d geforce card and changed the bios to have the video adapater to managed in auto mode. when i boot etch , the kernel crashes with either message of agp or apic smp . |
| 04:35.24 | RudyValencia | so the kernel in Debian is pretty much built for versatility> |
| 04:35.37 | RudyValencia | and not specificity to a task? |
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| 04:36.48 | Madd_Matt | dpkg knows how to compile a kernel the "debian way" Whats the thing I ask it for instructions? |
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| 04:38.52 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 04:38.52 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 04:39.09 | Madd_Matt | I figured out how to work dpkg now :) |
| 04:40.15 | dondelelcaro | Madd_Matt: /msg dpkg kp; /msg dpkg kp mantra; |
| 04:41.15 | RudyValencia | dpkg: blootbot? |
| 04:41.15 | dpkg | somebody said blootbot was a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl, or http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot, or the latest svn has pgsql support. |
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| 04:44.03 | karsten | RudyValencia: One of the biggest distinguishing characteristics of "server" from "desktop" has traditionally been the scheduler timeslice. |
| 04:44.32 | karsten | RudyValencia: It's shorter for desktop (faster response for interactive apps), longer for server (better overall throughput, fewer context switches). |
| 04:44.44 | Guerin | RudyValencia: well ... that's a false dichotomy. TO be built for versatility is to be built for *all* tasks. There is no need to (and the debian kernel doesn't) sacrifice performance in one area in order to increase it in another. |
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| 04:45.09 | RudyValencia | ah |
| 04:45.12 | RudyValencia | ok |
| 04:45.19 | Guerin | karsten: largely obviated on the desktop by absurdly fast CPUs nowadays. |
| 04:45.58 | nuncanada | Hello there! |
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| 04:46.06 | karsten | Guerin: I'm not sure that's still applicable. Work uses RHEL4 WS for servers and desktops. |
| 04:46.09 | nuncanada | Anyone got ndiswrapper skills? |
| 04:46.46 | nuncanada | Or knows how to find out if there is any kernel module accessing a pci address? |
| 04:47.38 | MTecknology | I installed vmware-server and the mui. When I log into the mui it tells me that there is only 885MB RAM, but there should be 3G. What happened? |
| 04:47.44 | cafuego | nuncanada: cat /proc/ioports |
| 04:47.54 | sparr | i want to install onto a machine that can only[ish] boot from the network. help? |
| 04:48.05 | yetifoot | can i block a specific file on a website in /etc/hosts ? i tried adding 127.0.0.1 http://host.com/file.png but it didn't seem to work |
| 04:48.18 | cafuego | MTecknology: Your kernel was not compiled with HIGHMEM=4G |
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| 04:48.37 | MTecknology | cafuego, how hard is that to fix? |
| 04:49.06 | cafuego | yetifoot: No, you can't. |
| 04:49.06 | yetifoot | cafuego, thanks, is there some other way i can do it? |
| 04:49.12 | cafuego | yes |
| 04:49.29 | yetifoot | what do i need to look at? |
| 04:49.31 | cafuego | but I just noticed my sysload is 30+ so I'll be busing looking at that first |
| 04:49.54 | MTecknology | cafuego, please tell me it's in the realm of not so hard. I've had a hellish day since i got to work at 7:30am, it's 11:50pm and I'm still here |
| 04:50.15 | Guerin | MTecknology: your life sucks |
| 04:50.22 | cafuego | MTecknology: Build a new kernel with HIGHMEM=4G |
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| 04:50.29 | Guerin | that's somewhat inhuman, I must say |
| 04:50.35 | MTecknology | i have no idea how |
| 04:50.39 | cafuego | It's exactly as hard as building a kernel. |
| 04:50.56 | Guerin | MTecknology: debian -686 kernels have it already |
| 04:50.57 | cafuego | I'm a tad surprised th default kernel doesn't already have it set though |
| 04:51.01 | cafuego | Ah |
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| 04:51.18 | MTecknology | I'm staying until I get Windows Server installed on the virtual machine. |
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| 04:51.19 | Guerin | and the amd64 and others, probably |
| 04:51.31 | cafuego | amd64 has no HIGHMEM option |
| 04:51.33 | Guerin | MTecknology: better call your wife so she doesn't report you missing |
| 04:51.43 | Guerin | cafuego: seems fair. |
| 04:51.45 | cafuego | That shit is ia32 kudges only |
| 04:51.50 | cafuego | kludges |
| 04:52.01 | karsten | yetifoot: No. You want some sort of web proxy. squid or dansguardian can do blocking. |
| 04:52.09 | MTecknology | Guerin, It's technically a x64 system, but I installed with the i386 cd b/c the other was having issues loading |
| 04:52.17 | cafuego | yetifoot: dansguarding or squid+squidguard |
| 04:52.18 | karsten | yetifoot: /etc/hosts *only* maps IPs to hostnames. |
| 04:52.35 | Guerin | MTecknology: install a -686 kernel and you'll be rosy |
| 04:52.39 | cafuego | yetifoot: ... so you could block all of host.com via /etc/hosts |
| 04:52.56 | MTecknology | Guerin, no further config necessary for it? |
| 04:53.06 | cafuego | yetifoot: or if you use firefox/iceweasel.. install AdBlock and simply add it to the list. |
| 04:53.17 | Guerin | MTecknology: nope. Just install it and reboot. |
| 04:53.31 | cafuego | MTecknology: Well, you'll need to reconfig vmware, so that can start |
| 04:54.10 | MTecknology | Guerin, sorry - i just have alias install kernel='instal kernel and restart' in my head :P |
| 04:54.23 | MTecknology | cafuego, just rerun the configure command? |
| 04:54.28 | Guerin | yeah, well, restarting twice won't hurt |
| 04:54.45 | MTecknology | will it cause any issues as far as my VM's ? |
| 04:54.53 | MTecknology | once I reconfigure |
| 04:55.03 | yetifoot | ok, thanks guys, i guess yeah, i'll have to do it in my browsers |
| 04:55.06 | Guerin | if they rely upon kernel modules, yes |
| 04:55.29 | MTecknology | Guerin, well, one is a Windows VM |
| 04:55.32 | MTecknology | so I doubt it |
| 04:55.42 | MTecknology | the other runs off of a live cd iso file |
| 04:55.44 | Guerin | i know very little about VMs |
| 04:55.53 | Guerin | so this means nothing to me ;) |
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| 04:56.23 | MTecknology | thanks much for that info :) - I'm not doing it now... I'll try to install the kernel right b4 reboot |
| 04:56.39 | cafuego | MTecknology: Yeh, oh.. make sure you also install the right kernel headers. |
| 04:57.35 | cafuego | MTecknology: Yes, you need to rerun vmware-config.pl - vmware uses in-krnel modules for network and virtualisation. |
| 04:58.38 | MTecknology | apt-get install linux-image-686 linux-686 linux-headers-686 ? |
| 04:58.51 | MTecknology | brb |
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| 05:00.46 | nvz | blah la la la la la l-a la la.. |
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| 05:03.27 | MTecknology_ | back |
| 05:03.46 | nvz | this is true |
| 05:04.06 | MTecknology | so, is that apt-get line i typed out correct? |
| 05:04.40 | nvz | !info linux-686 |
| 05:04.42 | cafuego | Looks about right; I don't actually run a recent debian in production anymore |
| 05:05.27 | nvz | !+info linux-686 |
| 05:05.29 | dpkg | Package 'linux-686' does not exist. |
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| 05:07.38 | nvz | I think what you want is linux-image-2.6-686 linux-headers-686 and libc6-i686 |
| 05:07.52 | nvz | er linux-headers-2.6-686 |
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| 05:08.29 | xjkx | whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get? |
| 05:09.00 | nvz | xjkx: aptitude has an interactive mode and a lot more in depth problem resolution process |
| 05:09.06 | nvz | for starters |
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| 05:09.24 | nvz | I still like apt myself, but aptitude is great |
| 05:09.35 | MTecknology | i've never used aptitude |
| 05:09.39 | nvz | apt is faster |
| 05:09.59 | MTecknology | apt-get always worked well for me |
| 05:09.59 | MTecknology | never had any reason to try aptitude |
| 05:10.08 | nvz | you can replace apt-get and apt-cache commands with aptitude, or run it without options and get an interactive curses interface |
| 05:10.26 | nvz | aptitude search package, or aptitude install package |
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| 05:11.27 | xjkx | thanks |
| 05:11.38 | nvz | its slower because it does more db access.. it keeps its own package database and can resolve issues better, but at a cost of speed it seems to me |
| 05:11.39 | MTecknology | nvz, I'll try it out - never have, but I know I should :P |
| 05:12.00 | nvz | if you use aptitude all the time you got much better chances of avoiding and solving problems |
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| 05:12.41 | xjkx | can i use aptitude/apt-get on a .deb so they take care of the depencences? |
| 05:12.55 | nvz | not that I know |
| 05:13.03 | nvz | !info gdebbi |
| 05:13.18 | yigal | xjkx: no, you have to use dpkg |
| 05:13.20 | nvz | !info gdebi |
| 05:13.22 | dpkg | gdebi: (Simple tool to install deb files), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.2.4debian1 (sid), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 224 kB |
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| 05:13.51 | yigal | or as nvz points out gdebi a nice gui for the same thing |
| 05:14.09 | nvz | na gdebi actually does the dep resolution like apt |
| 05:14.13 | semprix | xjkx, use dpkg for .deb files, --> man dpkg |
| 05:14.27 | yigal | nvz: seriously thats pretty neat, does it have a cli? |
| 05:14.32 | xjkx | thanks |
| 05:14.44 | nvz | I dunno |
| 05:15.02 | nvz | yigal: says it can be used in a terminal |
| 05:15.04 | yigal | nvz: i have sworn to never use a gui unless absolutely necessary |
| 05:15.31 | nvz | yigal: yeah me too long time ago.. but I had many reasons.. running on PI hardware had a lot to do with it :P |
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| 05:17.24 | yigal | nvz: it is a simple matter of silly cliches for me, i like function over form, or more to the point function makes the form - or at least should - deap and philosophical or what ever :) |
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| 05:17.29 | Kabuki | hello |
| 05:17.54 | nvz | yigal: yeah well I'm rather fond of sawfish.. I run that and my screen session all the time anymore |
| 05:18.18 | nvz | yigal: sawfish lets me have function over form in X |
| 05:18.29 | nvz | and screen keeps me sane |
| 05:18.40 | yigal | nvz: gdebi-core has everything needed for the command line, screen does it for me:) |
| 05:18.58 | Kabuki | I am currently using a custom kernel, but I'm doing a major hardware upgrade tommorrow and would like to switch to the stock etch kernel to prevent any problems. Does anyone know how I can do that? |
| 05:18.59 | yigal | nvz: and of course ssh |
| 05:19.13 | nvz | yeah I'm using both ssh and screen right now |
| 05:19.25 | nvz | on a vista box (ew) |
| 05:19.43 | yigal | nvz: funny and I am sorta of sorry for you |
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| 05:20.01 | yigal | nvz: about vista |
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| 05:20.10 | nvz | yeah its not the same without my wm. |
| 05:20.46 | nvz | there are so many times I want to do something simple like make a window always on top, or ignored.. and cant do it in windows or whatever |
| 05:20.51 | yigal | Kabuki: what kernel, what hardware? |
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| 05:21.43 | nvz | Kabuki: you can just install the right etch kernel for your new arch and boot it when you upgrade |
| 05:22.03 | nvz | I switched a K7 server to a P4 recently.. had to switch kernels |
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| 05:22.55 | Kabuki | nvz, how do I do that? I've never installed kernels with debian, I've always downloaded them from kernel.org and compiled them |
| 05:23.07 | nvz | apt-get install |
| 05:23.16 | Kabuki | nvz, where will that put it? |
| 05:23.27 | yigal | Kabuki: or for us new ones "aptitude install" |
| 05:23.34 | nvz | where it goes |
| 05:23.48 | nvz | it will add it to the boot menu and everything |
| 05:24.00 | Kabuki | I don't have a boot menu. I don't have a boot loader installed |
| 05:24.03 | yigal | Kabuki: are you familiar with using apt-get or aptitude? |
| 05:24.09 | Kabuki | yigal, yes |
| 05:24.10 | yigal | Kabuki: wow, how do you boot |
| 05:24.36 | yigal | Kabuki: this is getting interesting |
| 05:24.40 | Kabuki | I plug in a usb dongle that boots me into linux when thats where I want to go and I unplug it when I want to boot into windows |
| 05:24.49 | snowbird | give it a boot out the widow ? |
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| 05:25.09 | yigal | Kabuki: the kernel is most likely on the usb disk |
| 05:25.20 | yigal | Kabuki: you scared me for a sec. |
| 05:25.22 | snowbird | rotweller here has box of treats at my chair and siting pretty guess he would like one |
| 05:25.36 | Kabuki | no, my kernel is in /boot/ |
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| 05:26.04 | yigal | Kabuki: your kernel is in boot but what drive and what partition that is the real question |
| 05:26.18 | Kabuki | I know where my current things are and how my current things work. that's why I've never bothered doing it the debian way. What I want to know is if I just do this apt-get stuff, where is it going to put things? |
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| 05:26.43 | nvz | Kabuki: dpkg -L package |
| 05:26.48 | nvz | tells you where it put things |
| 05:26.54 | Kabuki | nvz, thanks |
| 05:27.15 | yigal | Kabuki: I have a strong feeling you don't know where your current things are, but I'm am very drunk so what do I know |
| 05:27.34 | Kabuki | yigal, obviously nothing |
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| 05:27.56 | nvz | yigal: you know that this is definatly not a fishing expidition |
| 05:28.21 | optraz1 | hi, any idea how to read berkeley db using cli ? |
| 05:28.22 | yigal | Kabuki: yes, he will have an interesting time tomorrow and my hangover will be even more interesting :) |
| 05:28.26 | nvz | because if it was, we'd all be on boats |
| 05:28.31 | yigal | excuse me s/Kabuki/nvz |
| 05:29.06 | yigal | nvz: :) |
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| 05:30.05 | yigal | pickcoder: ok make it interesting? |
| 05:30.58 | pickcoder | not much sleep |
| 05:31.24 | yigal | pickcoder: sorry |
| 05:32.12 | nvz | oh well, I'm detaching this windows box is making me wanna vomit |
| 05:32.24 | nvz | experience the wow, the wow of windows vista.. |
| 05:32.34 | nvz | the wow most my hardware and software is not supported! |
| 05:32.47 | nvz | the wow, these dialogs are really getting annoying.. |
| 05:32.48 | SpeedyG | don't forget the 'wow this is crappy' |
| 05:33.33 | nvz | the wow, you totally renamed and reorganized the same old features yet again so I feel like an idiot when I call tech support to talk to someone who can hardly even speak my language |
| 05:33.34 | yigal | the wow look how much $ has gone into making a crappy OS |
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| 05:34.56 | Gargantua | hi |
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| 05:35.05 | Gargantua | could someone lend me a hand with goodbye-windows? |
| 05:35.21 | nvz | wtf is a goodbye-windows? |
| 05:35.32 | nvz | catchy name :P |
| 05:35.38 | Gargantua | Google it motha fucka! |
| 05:35.49 | yigal | Gargantua: is it like a Gnome log out thing? |
| 05:35.50 | nvz | hah |
| 05:35.53 | Sarious | basically a debian net installer for win32 |
| 05:36.02 | Sarious | if i understand properly |
| 05:36.16 | Gargantua | yeah it is. |
| 05:36.17 | Sarious | i just dled the iso |
| 05:36.17 | Gargantua | goodbye-windows.com |
| 05:36.25 | Sarious | of debian |
| 05:36.34 | Sarious | less head trouble for me |
| 05:37.20 | Gargantua | it keeps giving the error "no D:\boot.ini found, is this really windows xp?". |
| 05:37.22 | socialist | anyone know which bash setting it is that lets you do ctrl+arrow to jump across words on the commandline? |
| 05:37.40 | socialist | debian and ubuntu do it but gentoo doesn't and it's getting on my nerves |
| 05:38.53 | Gargantua | lol, wut? |
| 05:39.15 | yigal | socialist: sorry, I had a prob. with bash recently, i installed Maxima, my favorite computer algebra symbolic calc. and it didn't have history with the up arrow or ^P |
| 05:39.55 | yigal | socialist: its becaue i compiled it myself |
| 05:40.37 | yigal | socialist: GENTOO where you compile everything :) nice idea I think I wouldn't like having to use it |
| 05:41.37 | yigal | socialist: its some kind of "bind" command though right? |
| 05:42.01 | yigal | socialist: or adding something to ~/.initrc |
| 05:42.14 | yigal | s/initrc/inputrc |
| 05:42.33 | Crypticfortune | question: what's the standard accepted way to load iptables settings at startup? seems lots of computers in my lab have /etc/iptables.sh but nothing in /etc/init.d/ seems to reference it. very mysterious.... |
| 05:43.10 | yigal | Crypticfortune: some old debian doc uses /etc/init.d ? |
| 05:43.27 | yigal | Crypticfortune: firewall.sh or what have you |
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| 05:46.37 | Crypticfortune | yigal: so is there a new doc way? |
| 05:47.07 | socialist | I'm sure it is yeah |
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| 05:47.35 | socialist | yigal: oh btw, I couldn't get those pkgs to build from one pkg tree with separate versions |
| 05:48.21 | socialist | so I created separate builds for each, but I moved the source outside the package directories and have them all pull from one source tree |
| 05:48.41 | socialist | it's not portable as dpkg-src but it works for me |
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| 05:52.20 | yigal | socialist: interesting, i didn't think the way you were testing would work but it is interesting the way that did work :) |
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| 05:54.06 | socialist | yeah it works fine since I'm not doing distributing source |
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| 05:56.12 | slapfaceware | i'm trying to get apache2 to run |
| 05:56.14 | yigal | Crypticfortune: unfortunately like in most cases no |
| 05:56.23 | slapfaceware | the whole conf.d is just confusing me |
| 05:56.39 | slapfaceware | in init.d/apache2 |
| 05:57.14 | slapfaceware | it's using /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 05:57.20 | slapfaceware | but it's an empty file |
| 05:58.23 | socialist | it's using /etc/apache2/apache.conf |
| 05:59.21 | socialist | httpd.conf is just a legacy thing, some packages probably assume it's still there so it's included from apache.conf, but is empty |
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| 06:02.14 | pickcoder | any recommendations for solid state router hardware? |
| 06:03.04 | mosty | pickcoder: soekris net4801 ? |
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| 06:05.44 | pickcoder | I'm trying to remember the name of the company that makes the solid state boards.. PC engine or something |
| 06:05.58 | pickcoder | they use CF disks to boot from |
| 06:06.08 | wols_ | pickcoder: what kind of router? |
| 06:06.19 | wols_ | pretty much all of them use flash |
| 06:06.48 | wols_ | as for CFdisks: you can use anything for that. simply use a CFDisk to IDE adapter |
| 06:07.22 | wols_ | pickcoder: "consumer" or "enterprise" hardware? |
| 06:07.36 | themill | So long all! I'm off for a holiday! See you when I get back next week. |
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| 06:08.47 | kingsley | Has spamassassin become too cautious? After years of using it with few problems, I just discovered that version 3.2.0-1 wrongly flagged nine emails as spam in only two days. I don't recall spamassassin having ever misidentified a ligitimate email as spam before. |
| 06:08.55 | pickcoder | enterprise |
| 06:09.02 | pickcoder | T1 firewall router |
| 06:09.15 | pickcoder | something I can stick on the plywood panel in the phone room |
| 06:09.20 | pickcoder | brb |
| 06:10.07 | xingu | wols_: it ain't enterprise unless it comes with photon torpedo tubes |
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| 06:11.15 | wols_ | ;) |
| 06:12.12 | wols_ | personally I'd simply go for something with a few MB of RAM (preferably 64+) and running Linux, but that's not "enterprisy" enough I guess :) |
| 06:12.30 | xingu | bzflag is actually quite addictive playing against bots |
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| 06:18.15 | hatter | can someone suggest a good howto for exim4 with virtual domain support and all the other anti-spam hoo-ha ? |
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| 06:25.25 | Spida | hatter: which method to get mail-aliases and homedirs? plainfiles, mysql, ldap? what kind of antispam? the docs on exim.org are quiet good... |
| 06:25.30 | Spida | hmpf. |
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| 06:32.57 | mosty | is there a command line flag that starts iceweasel in fullscreen mode |
| 06:33.52 | pickcoder | I've considered a mini-itx box, but something smaller would be nice |
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| 06:35.47 | dimir | Moin! |
| 06:36.37 | mosty | pickcoder, for a router? why not get something like a linksys wrt54g or an asus wl-500gd |
| 06:37.00 | pickcoder | I don't want to deal with flashing |
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| 06:37.18 | pickcoder | the WRAP boards from pc engines may be a possbility |
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| 06:38.10 | mosty | you can drop a hard drive, CF, or usb flash memory in a soekris net4801, and it has a serial console |
| 06:38.14 | mosty | and it's small |
| 06:38.56 | pickcoder | I'll check it out |
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| 06:42.12 | mesof | mosty: no |
| 06:42.23 | mesof | you can kinda sorta do it in icewm |
| 06:42.33 | mesof | in the winoptions file |
| 06:42.49 | mesof | gecko.startFullscreen: 1 |
| 06:43.00 | xushi | how does one change network settings in debian? o_O |
| 06:43.16 | mosty | xushi, edit /etc/network/interfaces - man interfaces for more info |
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| 06:43.59 | xushi | thanks |
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| 06:48.25 | pickcoder | the soekris looks good, but I can't find the cases |
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| 06:49.01 | pickcoder | oh they're on the pricing page |
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| 06:52.11 | mesof | mosty: what wm do you run? |
| 06:52.15 | mesof | or what desktop |
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| 06:52.51 | mosty | mesof, for this task i don't care, i just want something that will let me start iceweasel fullscreen, but will also allow me to open other windows that aren't fullscreen |
| 06:53.10 | mesof | mosty: try icewm |
| 06:53.21 | mosty | i'll give it a shot |
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| 06:55.32 | maddash | fuck fuck fuck I wanted to remove "dumps/" and "dump*file.txt" from "~/" but I ended executing "rm dump *" |
| 06:56.05 | maddash | undelete, anyone? |
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| 06:58.17 | wols_ | !undelete |
| 06:58.17 | dpkg | undelete is, like, great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select "Undelete files" in mc, or doesn't work for journalled filesystems. |
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| 06:59.03 | maddash | ~/ is the root partition |
| 06:59.03 | apt | ...but / is already something else... |
| 06:59.12 | maddash | is in the* |
| 06:59.18 | maddash | and the root partition is ext3 |
| 06:59.26 | maddash | fuck |
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| 07:00.28 | maddash | any ideas? |
| 07:02.13 | maddash | i'm pissed |
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| 07:07.36 | [1]Spot | hi |
| 07:08.22 | tsocks_ | [1]Spot: hi ;) |
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| 07:08.30 | chasetoys | i have a t61 and it has a fingerprint reader.... i have edited my /etc/pam.d/gdm file here: http://pastie.caboo.se/89955 ... but right now, gdm asks me for my password && fingerprint!!! how can i make it do either / or? thanks! |
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| 07:11.17 | linuxtk11 | hey |
| 07:11.30 | linuxtk11 | iptables ntop iftop whats better for bandiwdth monitoring ? |
| 07:12.11 | yang | linuxtk11: iptraf |
| 07:12.23 | linuxtk11 | hmmm ? |
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| 07:13.23 | linuxtk11 | thign is i dont even need ot see connection all i want to se if exactly how much each ip on my interface is using thats all |
| 07:13.32 | linuxtk11 | how much bandwidth thats it up and down |
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| 07:17.47 | linuxtk11 | ipband looks interesting as well |
| 07:19.08 | thirst | i tried to connect to dial-up internet thru a usb modem(/dev/ttyACM0), the net connection lasts only for 5-10 seconds, and then the computer freezes, any idea about a fix. I installed tihs system with pnpbios=off option, does that matter ? |
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| 07:27.45 | [1]Spot | . |
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| 07:31.40 | daniel | Hi |
| 07:31.53 | daniel | I want to completely remove apache2 and then reinstall it |
| 07:32.08 | daniel | Somehow apt-get remove won't let me do it, somehow... |
| 07:32.39 | daniel | I even tried for i in `apt-cache search apache | awk '{print $1}'`; do apt-get remove "$i"; done out of frustration |
| 07:32.43 | daniel | s/tried/did/ |
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| 07:36.38 | slapfaceware | so my apache2 can start without an httpd.conf, can someone tell me wtf is going on on apache2 on debian etch |
| 07:37.17 | daniel | Look into /etc/apache2, iirc there's an apache2.conf |
| 07:38.32 | enouf | apt-get --purge remove ? |
| 07:39.16 | enouf | if you installed using aptitude (or some other funky monster) try aptitude |
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| 07:39.32 | daniel | enouf: No, used apt-get |
| 07:40.15 | enouf | dpkg -l \*apache* |
| 07:40.15 | dpkg | No packages found matching \*apache* |
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| 07:40.33 | enouf | er try dpkg -l \*apache* |
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| 07:40.41 | slapfaceware | but i check /etc/init.d/apache2, i do not see it's using apache2.conf, and why the hell does it not use httpd.conf |
| 07:41.13 | dimir | daniel: env COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l '*apache*' | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | while read $pkg; do dpkg -P $pkg; done |
| 07:41.48 | daniel | Could it be that uninstalling is a bit of a hassle on debian? :) |
| 07:42.05 | dimir | You can just 'aptitude purge apache2' |
| 07:42.34 | dimir | Having many choices of doing the (almost) same thing doesn't mean hassle IMHO. |
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| 07:43.06 | dimir | If you don't like to have more control over what you're doing go for windows. |
| 07:43.16 | dimir | Control Panel is the only way. |
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| 07:44.04 | enouf | daniel: you still haven't stated a coherent problem |
| 07:44.11 | Guerin | dimir: regedit! |
| 07:44.23 | enouf | all you have done is whined about some figment of your imagination |
| 07:44.59 | enouf | he regedt32.exe |
| 07:45.17 | Guerin | daniel: it sounds like the problem comes from using obsolete packaging tools |
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| 07:45.36 | Guerin | daniel: there's no real cure, other than using aptitude in the future |
| 07:45.52 | dimir | :-P |
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| 07:46.50 | Guerin | %bear enouf |
| 07:47.05 | Guerin | stupid badgers |
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| 07:53.22 | daniel | Guerin: EH?! apt-get is the freaking standard-tool. Nobody ever told it was 'obsolete'. |
| 07:53.54 | Guerin | daniel: has been for years. It was never even intended for prime-time. Aptitude is the first from-scratch tool which is. |
| 07:53.55 | daniel | dimir: Yeah, and that windows-comment was productive and cool, really. |
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| 08:02.03 | alfatau | hello,someone can help me to understand how to "personalize" upgrades? in other words, i would configure my debian box for automatic updates (for example i use cron-apt) but i don't want to upgrade some packages, such as kernel ones, or some others.anyone can help me? |
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| 08:02.59 | Supaplex | !tell alfatau -about pinning |
| 08:03.02 | Supaplex | !tell alfatau -about hold |
| 08:03.11 | Lauer | Hello. Do any know a good how-to for installing a chrooted user on a debian etch |
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| 08:03.27 | Supaplex | !chroot install |
| 08:03.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, chroot install is http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall, or http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en, or ask me about <debootstrap>, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, or http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 08:03.51 | Lauer | thanks |
| 08:04.28 | Supaplex | Lauer: chrooting users only makes sense for sftp stuff otherwise. (or related). I think there are apache modules for it, and pam extensions. |
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| 08:04.47 | wkeanologos | in a flatbed scanner's specification it says 'Scanning Area: Reflective' and 'Scanning Area: Transparent' what are these? |
| 08:04.52 | Supaplex | I'd bug the apache channel if it's webhosting related |
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| 08:05.10 | Lauer | Supaplex, it is for a sftp-user |
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| 08:05.31 | Supaplex | Lauer: there's also an sftp only shell. |
| 08:05.35 | Supaplex | !tell Lauer -about search |
| 08:05.55 | Lauer | yes, I know, but when the user can see the whole system |
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| 08:06.14 | Supaplex | so? they can download debian to. |
| 08:06.43 | Supaplex | chmod og=x /home/* /home/*/public_html |
| 08:06.46 | Lauer | huh? its a windows company, they have to give os some xmlfiles with others, which we have to handle |
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| 08:07.26 | Supaplex | sounds like virtual ftp... |
| 08:07.46 | Lauer | yes, but we want it to be over sftp - a secure connection |
| 08:07.56 | Supaplex | good. :) |
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| 08:08.57 | Supaplex | !security through obscurity |
| 08:08.57 | dpkg | Ok, if you're wanting to hide /proc from a user, or chroot a user, disable su for a user, or otherwise fool a user into thinking he's not capable of doing anything , you're the fool. Hiding things from users normally provides no material security benefit, and causes massive headaches for those who actually use the machine in question. Ask me about <chroot ssh>, <hide ps> and <disable su> |
| 08:09.25 | Supaplex | dpkg: botsnack |
| 08:09.25 | dpkg | Supaplex: aw, gee |
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| 08:10.14 | tristian | anyone know of an app that can split a terminal window into two, vertically? |
| 08:10.31 | tristian | other than just having two terminal windows side by side, of course... :-) |
| 08:10.36 | xand | perhaps screen, dont know |
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| 08:10.51 | tristian | hmm perhaps. I'll look. |
| 08:10.54 | xand | !screen |
| 08:10.54 | dpkg | from memory, screen is allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or aptitude install screen |
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| 08:11.59 | olivierk | tristian: splitvt ? |
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| 08:12.31 | olivierk | tristian: aptitude show splitvt |
| 08:13.38 | harpal | I have enabled net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 1 in sysctl.conf and then I have run sysctl -p but I dont have 1 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding |
| 08:13.57 | harpal | s/ip_forwarding/ip_forward |
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| 08:16.34 | TiMiDo | hey |
| 08:16.41 | TiMiDo | how do i remove the gdm from start up? |
| 08:17.49 | alfatau | !tell alfatau -about hold |
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| 08:18.41 | olivierk | TiMiDo: dirty: # mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/nogdm |
| 08:18.59 | cubiq | Anyone familiar with grub's fallback method? |
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| 08:19.33 | graytron | TiMiDo: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 08:20.16 | wols_ | !nogdm |
| 08:20.20 | wols_ | !nodm |
| 08:20.20 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 08:28.06 | daniel | Guerin: Surprise! dpkg recommends using apt-get, the obsolete tool, in that alias. |
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| 08:29.01 | Guerin | daniel: many of his factoids are also obsolete. He's almost a decade old. |
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| 08:33.50 | Supaplex | !stats |
| 08:33.50 | dpkg | Since Tue Aug 21 11:05:03 2007, there have been 2 modifications, 194 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 75 commands. I have been awake for 21h 28m 47s this session, and currently reference 37566 factoids. I'm using about 15552 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 64.02/3.84 child 0/0.02 |
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| 08:34.23 | Supaplex | Guerin: help us fix all 37566 factoids, ok? |
| 08:34.49 | poncha | guys, is there a possability that (somehow) a loadbalancer would prevent real servers from seeing remote client ip address? :S |
| 08:35.36 | Supaplex | poncha: only if the loadbalancer didn't pass it on to one of the servers |
| 08:36.06 | poncha | we have a <fw>-<lb>-<server> setup here, and on server i see that any client has ip of the firewall... and the guy responsible for the firewall says he is forwarding real ip... i am confused |
| 08:37.34 | poncha | i've looked through every option that the balancer lets me configure (the device is barracuda 240 appliance), and there is nothing alike there |
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| 08:38.35 | Supaplex | harass the vendor ;) |
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| 08:43.06 | TiMiDo | how do i see the procesor type? |
| 08:43.53 | XPSlammer | TiMiDo: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 08:53.03 | xlotlu | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/orphaned_projects.png |
| 08:59.11 | semprix | lol @xlotlu |
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| 09:07.54 | wallace420 | grr, googling to no avail, I seem to not be able to install mysql on debian etch... |
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| 09:08.44 | wallace420 | i was recieving a socket not found "/tmp/mysql.sock" error initially, so I re-installed, purged, deleted everything mysqlish and reinstalled agian |
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| 09:09.15 | wallace420 | why doesn't 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client' install in a usable configuration? |
| 09:09.38 | simonrvn | er, it does? |
| 09:09.48 | wallace420 | if i type in 'mysql -u root -p' I get: |
| 09:10.09 | wallace420 | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) |
| 09:11.00 | wallace420 | and now the /etc/mysql directory is missing (i deleted it previously, but it has not come back when i reinstalled mysql-server) |
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| 09:11.53 | wallace420 | I can not figure out where to get the config files from if they are not in the mysql-server package |
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| 09:14.10 | GiabboO | hey wallace420 |
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| 09:14.19 | wallace420 | GiabboO, still here |
| 09:14.27 | GiabboO | hello im just arrived |
| 09:14.34 | GiabboO | are you having problem with mysql ? |
| 09:14.41 | wallace420 | yep |
| 09:14.47 | GiabboO | good, debian or ubuntu ? |
| 09:14.49 | wallace420 | let me repost a little |
| 09:14.51 | GiabboO | (good lol) |
| 09:14.52 | wallace420 | debian etch |
| 09:14.55 | GiabboO | OK |
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| 09:15.02 | GiabboO | i have mysql working on my debian etch |
| 09:15.05 | GiabboO | so lets have a try |
| 09:15.06 | wallace420 | i was recieving a socket not found "/tmp/mysql.sock" error initially, so I re-installed, purged, deleted everything mysqlish and reinstalled agian |
| 09:15.13 | GiabboO | ok |
| 09:15.25 | wallace420 | if i type in 'mysql -u root -p' I get: |
| 09:15.27 | GiabboO | usually the unix socket should be under /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 09:15.33 | GiabboO | have u tried this location ? |
| 09:15.39 | wallace420 | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) |
| 09:15.47 | GiabboO | as well you could check where the socket is made into /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 09:15.50 | wallace420 | well, I deleted the mysql dir's |
| 09:15.54 | GiabboO | lol |
| 09:16.00 | GiabboO | apt-get remove --purge ? :P |
| 09:16.03 | wallace420 | there isn't an /etc/mysql or var/run/mysqld |
| 09:16.07 | GiabboO | ok |
| 09:16.14 | wallace420 | just like the tutorials on google said to de |
| 09:16.16 | wallace420 | do |
| 09:16.20 | GiabboO | I want help you |
| 09:16.32 | GiabboO | I am sure after this talk u will have ur mysql running |
| 09:16.39 | wallace420 | so when i reinstalled mysql, they were not created |
| 09:16.48 | GiabboO | is ok |
| 09:16.51 | wallace420 | darn debian package maintainers |
| 09:16.55 | GiabboO | nah |
| 09:17.02 | GiabboO | can we continue on private ? |
| 09:17.02 | wallace420 | i deleted /etc/mysql |
| 09:17.07 | wallace420 | sure, pm me |
| 09:17.12 | GiabboO | k |
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| 09:20.01 | GiabboO | lol |
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| 09:20.07 | GiabboO | seems u are away now |
| 09:21.04 | wallace420 | GiabboO, I'm still pm'ing you! |
| 09:21.31 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 09:21.37 | GiabboO | lol |
| 09:21.43 | GiabboO | im not receivin and pm |
| 09:22.02 | GiabboO | check ur server status messages :P |
| 09:22.23 | jetscreamer | you have to be identified to pm |
| 09:22.32 | GiabboO | true |
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| 09:22.54 | wallace420 | grr, I thought I set that up since this is a registered nick |
| 09:23.10 | b_jonas | Hi. Is there some guide about reinstalling a working x86 etch install to x86_64 etch? |
| 09:23.23 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 09:23.23 | dpkg | reinstall is probably COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install |
| 09:23.26 | wallace420 | GiabboO, go to #Giabbo0 |
| 09:23.58 | mosty | b_jonas, just backup your data, get a list of installed packages, then install from scratch |
| 09:24.02 | GiabboO | wait |
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| 09:24.34 | jetscreamer | backup /home and some /etc stuff |
| 09:24.57 | jetscreamer | if you've customized anything |
| 09:25.00 | b_jonas | mosty: hmm. how do I get a list of installed packages and reinstall later? |
| 09:25.05 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 09:25.09 | jetscreamer | scroll up |
| 09:25.14 | b_jonas | yep, the difficult part is saving the config |
| 09:25.16 | mosty | b_jonas: dpkg --list |
| 09:25.19 | jetscreamer | 10 lines? |
| 09:25.41 | b_jonas | because I can't just copy the whole /etc, but have to do it selectively |
| 09:25.44 | jetscreamer | !tell b_jonas -about reinstall |
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| 09:25.53 | jetscreamer | right |
| 09:26.06 | jetscreamer | you don't need it all anyway |
| 09:26.12 | jetscreamer | but think .tgz |
| 09:26.18 | b_jonas | I can probably copy all of /home |
| 09:26.35 | jetscreamer | zip it up you'll be suprised |
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| 09:27.18 | b_jonas | what about the X server configuration? |
| 09:27.30 | jetscreamer | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 09:28.17 | b_jonas | yeah, but can I just copy it? |
| 09:28.24 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 09:28.26 | slapfaceware | how do i install g729 audio codec for voip in debian |
| 09:28.33 | jetscreamer | it's just text |
| 09:28.49 | mosty | slapfaceware, get the module from digium, read the README |
| 09:28.49 | b_jonas | right. |
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| 09:29.41 | jetscreamer | i save xorg.conf, fstab, sources.list, menu.lst, and /home basically. but i keep /home on it's own hd now. |
| 09:29.44 | b_jonas | Can I copy the kernel .config and make oldconfig, or does that not work? |
| 09:29.59 | daniele_982 | hello all!!!! i've installed softbeep but i not understand how it found and the man is very small. Sameone can help me? |
| 09:30.04 | jetscreamer | yeah that works.. /boot/config-whatever == .config |
| 09:30.29 | jetscreamer | i save /usr/src also, but that's optional |
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| 09:32.06 | daniele_982 | mmm.i want my beep |
| 09:32.53 | wols_ | only one making noise is me |
| 09:33.10 | daniele_982 | wols_: do you know softbeep?? |
| 09:33.51 | wols_ | not really |
| 09:34.07 | wols_ | but maybe ask a real question and someone here can help |
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| 09:34.23 | wols_ | "i've installed softbeep but i not understand how it found" just doesn't make sense |
| 09:34.41 | wols_ | dpkg -L softbeep |grep bin should tell you what to run at least |
| 09:34.41 | dpkg | No packages found matching softbeep |grep bin should tell you what to run at least |
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| 09:35.12 | daniele_982 | wols_: i've read the documentation but it not found |
| 09:35.14 | daniele_982 | daniele@daniele:~$ apt-cache show softbeepPackage: softbeepPriority: optionalSection: sound |
| 09:35.52 | wols_ | daniele_982: I told you something. do it |
| 09:36.21 | wols_ | softbeep is a library only. nothing to run. |
| 09:36.29 | wols_ | check your LD_PRELOAD env variable |
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| 09:36.44 | wols_ | if you had read the descriprion, you |
| 09:36.49 | wols_ | you'd knew |
| 09:36.50 | daniele_982 | daniele@daniele:~$ dpkg -L softbeep |grep bin/usr/bin/usr/bin/sb-beep/usr/bin/softbeep |
| 09:36.59 | wols_ | then run it |
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| 09:37.29 | daniele_982 | http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/softbeep/ |
| 09:37.43 | daniele_982 | but i not understand |
| 09:37.58 | ameyer | honestly, linux beeps way too beeping much... |
| 09:38.43 | daniele_982 | ameyer: i've not pc-speaker |
| 09:39.01 | ameyer | or at least ubuntu does, I've never had debian on something with a pc speaker thingy |
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| 09:39.59 | NaufraGo | hi. is there any way to increase another used partition disk space and decrease my linux partition, no erasing any os? |
| 09:40.05 | b_jonas | ameyer: try adding "set bell-style none" to your ~/.inputrc if you think it beeps too much |
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| 09:40.19 | ameyer | or blacklist the pcspkr module |
| 09:40.24 | b_jonas | also configure your editor |
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| 09:40.52 | daniele_982 | yes but for my problem??? i want my beeo |
| 09:40.54 | daniele_982 | beep |
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| 09:41.03 | NaufraGo | can anyone help me? |
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| 09:42.00 | helloworld1 | why i always have a zombie procesc called Xession? |
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| 09:42.49 | NaufraGo | does anybody know about my question? please |
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| 09:44.14 | eth01 | any ideas on how I could secure my debian box up? |
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| 09:45.23 | NaufraGo | is there anybody available? |
| 09:45.45 | bullgard4 | What is a 'Linux source tree'? See for example http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kernel/ |
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| 09:46.20 | _klx_ | eth01: you can follow this url http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 09:46.25 | helloworld1 | NaufraGo:what's the problems? |
| 09:46.33 | alex__ | NaufraGo, no you cant |
| 09:46.49 | alex__ | unless they were formatted as Volume typedrives |
| 09:47.07 | NaufraGo | hmm, disappointing |
| 09:48.20 | alex__ | NaufraGo, just use symlinks |
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| 09:48.43 | TiMiDo | hey |
| 09:48.51 | TiMiDo | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version |
| 09:48.51 | TiMiDo | 2.6.21-2-k7 on running kernel 2.6.18-4-486 in mkinitramfs-kpkg mkinitrd.yaird |
| 09:48.51 | TiMiDo | dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 (--configure): |
| 09:48.51 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 09:48.53 | TiMiDo | any ideas? |
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| 09:49.10 | NaufraGo | alex__ hm, what's that for? |
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| 09:50.46 | alex__ | NaufraGo, type man ln |
| 09:51.35 | alex__ | TiMiDo, is that when you boot? |
| 09:51.47 | TiMiDo | nope alex__ |
| 09:51.48 | alex__ | or when your creating the ramdisk |
| 09:51.56 | TiMiDo | i was try to installed the kernel k7 |
| 09:52.02 | TiMiDo | and it throw me that error, message |
| 09:52.26 | alex__ | do you have the ramdisk generatio ntool? |
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| 09:52.50 | TiMiDo | alex__, not sure, |
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| 09:52.54 | TiMiDo | hwo do i installed it? |
| 09:52.56 | alex__ | mkinitramfs-kpkg mkinitrd.yaird |
| 09:53.09 | alex__ | apt-cache search mkinit |
| 09:53.23 | TiMiDo | bootcd-mkinitramfs - With the installation of this bootcd extension your |
| 09:53.23 | TiMiDo | yaird - Yet Another mkInitRD |
| 09:54.22 | TiMiDo | which one do i get? |
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| 09:55.31 | alex__ | both |
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| 09:55.53 | TiMiDo | okey, |
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| 09:56.23 | alex__ | why doyou want the k7 kernel? |
| 09:56.32 | NaufraGo | alex, my real problem is that I have win and debian in my disk; 20gb for win and 60gb for debian or something like that... so now I need more space for win, but I can't see another solution that erase the whole disk and install both os again.. is there a better solution? |
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| 09:58.16 | NaufraGo | or does anyone else know about my question? |
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| 09:59.33 | techbie | NaufraGo: which file system are you using ? |
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| 10:00.26 | NaufraGo | ?? |
| 10:00.50 | NaufraGo | win uses ntfs I guess, is that your question? |
| 10:01.04 | techbie | NaufraGo: i mean asking about in case of debian |
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| 10:02.18 | NaufraGo | mm, I don't know.. maybe I know, haha, I can I see that in terminal? |
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| 10:02.37 | NaufraGo | how can I see it? |
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| 10:03.19 | _evo_ | techbie, just use ext3 für linux |
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| 10:03.50 | _evo_ | oh well, that wasn the question :-) |
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| 10:04.08 | alex__ | NaufraGo, no chance in hell |
| 10:04.23 | alex__ | NaufraGo, buy a new HDD |
| 10:04.25 | NaufraGo | what do you mean |
| 10:04.44 | alex__ | what i mean is , its not going to happen |
| 10:04.50 | NaufraGo | there's no way to use more space in win |
| 10:04.56 | NaufraGo | ? |
| 10:05.01 | alex__ | you should purchase a new hdd just for windows |
| 10:05.19 | alex__ | ......... you cant drink the linux partition and expand the windows |
| 10:05.23 | alex__ | er shrink* |
| 10:05.33 | NaufraGo | haha |
| 10:05.33 | alex__ | "no chance in hell" |
| 10:05.37 | NaufraGo | alright |
| 10:05.58 | NaufraGo | but maybe share files or something? |
| 10:06.02 | techbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.11 | daniele_982 | hello all! someone know softbeep??? i've read the man, documentation but it not found.I not understand |
| 10:06.27 | alex__ | daniele_982, whats softbeep |
| 10:06.33 | eth01 | how could I tighten the security on my debian box? |
| 10:06.43 | NaufraGo | then ext3 |
| 10:06.47 | alex__ | eth01: you can follow this url http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 10:06.56 | alex__ | eth01, stop asking the same question :) |
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| 10:06.57 | daniele_982 | alex__: This utility may be used for redirecting beeps of the internal PC speaker to your sound card. |
| 10:07.10 | alex__ | daniele_982, no idea, sorry, |
| 10:07.21 | eth01 | I didn't see, connection dodgey. |
| 10:07.45 | alex__ | NaufraGo, no. |
| 10:07.53 | alex__ | NaufraGo, ill give it you plain and simple |
| 10:07.59 | alex__ | NaufraGo, its not going to happen |
| 10:08.03 | daniele_982 | alex__: i don't have pc-speaker and i love beep so i've found this solution but i not understand how it found |
| 10:08.15 | alex__ | daniele_982, no idea, sorry, |
| 10:09.01 | techbie | NaufaGo: you can resize your partition using gparted |
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| 10:10.05 | NaufraGo | sure? |
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| 10:10.28 | NaufraGo | I mean, I'm getting 2 completely different answers |
| 10:10.42 | techbie | NaufraGo: can you paste the output of df -h command and use paster to paste the output |
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| 10:11.44 | techbie | !paster |
| 10:11.44 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 10:12.11 | NaufraGo | prefer to message you |
| 10:13.43 | techbie | NaufraGo: use paster , so that everyone can see it and give you better suggestion |
| 10:14.08 | TiMiDo | bootcd-mkinitramfs yaird |
| 10:14.10 | TiMiDo | Err http://ftp.debian.org lenny/main openssh-server 1:4.6p1-5 |
| 10:14.12 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:15.21 | eth01 | oh, new debian release? |
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| 10:16.09 | NaufraGo | techbie, by the way.. apt-cache search doesn't find gparted |
| 10:17.03 | NaufraGo | maybe gpart? |
| 10:17.08 | marc7 | if awk doesn't work in the debian-installer busybox environment, is there any way I can pick out the PID of dhclient to kill it off? |
| 10:17.19 | alex__ | marc7, ps aux |
| 10:17.25 | marc7 | i was trying to kill -9 `ps aux | grep dhclient | awk '{print $2}'` |
| 10:17.28 | techbie | TiMIDO: check name server setting and man dig |
| 10:17.41 | marc7 | but awk isn't in d-i |
| 10:17.43 | alex__ | marc7, killall dhclient |
| 10:17.50 | marc7 | neither is killall :-/ |
| 10:18.03 | marc7 | this is at the very very outset |
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| 10:18.19 | techbie | NaufraGo: no its gparted |
| 10:18.36 | harpal | when I open any document with vi and close it than I got Symbol `ospeed' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
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| 10:18.49 | harpal | I have same thing also appering in less also |
| 10:19.10 | yggdrasil | hello, can somone gime hand , trying to umount an smbfs drive. cant unmount it claims its busy |
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| 10:19.34 | petemc | yggdrasil: lsof |grep mountpoint |
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| 10:20.21 | yggdrasil | hmm its thinking about it |
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| 10:20.42 | yggdrasil | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() smbfs file system /media/storeage |
| 10:20.42 | yggdrasil | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:21.15 | eth01 | why are there so many damn "getty" processes, I only want 1, not 6. |
| 10:21.15 | yggdrasil | hmm i think i got it unmounted |
| 10:21.21 | viller | is it possible to recover deleted files with the ext filesystem? I know there was a tool for Windows to recover deleted files on NTFS. |
| 10:21.39 | daniele_982 | hello all! someone know softbeep??? i've read the man, documentation but it not found.I not understand |
| 10:21.48 | eth01 | viller: |
| 10:21.51 | dragonheart | sleuthkit <- viller |
| 10:21.54 | eth01 | viller: #windows |
| 10:21.56 | JosefAssad | is it only me or is the www.google.com/analytics site fubar'ed? |
| 10:22.07 | petemc | eth01: then configure your system to only have one |
| 10:22.46 | petemc | JosefAssad: works fine |
| 10:22.52 | eth01 | petemc: how so? |
| 10:22.56 | viller | eth01: windows? I was asking about ext |
| 10:22.58 | petemc | eth01: /etc/inittab |
| 10:23.02 | JosefAssad | petemc: mm, okay. Thanks |
| 10:23.08 | eth01 | petemc: k thx |
| 10:23.12 | petemc | viller: ext3 is notoriously difficult to recover files from |
| 10:23.32 | JosefAssad | probably my DNS acting up |
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| 10:24.18 | petemc | eth01: any particular reason you thinks theres too damn many gettys? |
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| 10:24.47 | eth01 | well there are 6. |
| 10:24.51 | petemc | and? |
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| 10:25.28 | eth01 | i don't want 6, no need :) |
| 10:25.35 | petemc | eth01: you might be surprised |
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| 10:26.40 | TiMiDo | anyone here can help me with some nvidia issues? |
| 10:26.55 | eth01 | #nvidia |
| 10:27.09 | petemc | TiMiDo: you can ask here if its debian related |
| 10:28.01 | TiMiDo | petemc, nvidia-gl i awnt to installed that packaged but it seems i don't have it on my apt |
| 10:28.43 | TiMiDo | do i need to add a sortine line to it? |
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| 10:29.10 | petemc | TiMiDo: which version of debian? |
| 10:29.19 | TiMiDo | im running lenny |
| 10:29.25 | petemc | that may be a problem |
| 10:29.30 | petemc | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 10:29.32 | TiMiDo | why? |
| 10:29.41 | petemc | check that link |
| 10:29.48 | Shadur | TiMiDo: The package is called nvidia-glx, at any rate. |
| 10:30.04 | petemc | there was an issue where the kernels in lenny didnt work with nvidia, not sure if thats still the case |
| 10:30.12 | TiMiDo | Shadur, i know but is not in my apt |
| 10:30.19 | TiMiDo | let's see |
| 10:30.23 | RichiH | heh, a dist-upgrade wants to remove pidgin and gaim and install a new version of pidgin-data |
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| 10:31.07 | Shadur | RichiH: You can ditch gaim, it's only a placeholder now. |
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| 10:35.36 | marc7 | if there's a debian mirror that's a piece of garbage, who can I complain to... i mean, report that there's some serious sh** going wrong with this box |
| 10:36.21 | marc7 | the number of times that it randomly chokes out and proves to be the source of troubleshooting headaches doesn't make it worthwhile, even though it's freaking four hops away and less than a 1ms RTA |
| 10:36.22 | petemc | you might want to rethink the wording of your complaint, if you do find out how to contact |
| 10:36.31 | marc7 | yes, I'll have settled down by then |
| 10:36.39 | marc7 | mirror.peer1.net |
| 10:36.45 | marc7 | randomly missing packages |
| 10:37.05 | marc7 | the number of times debian-installer errors out on that mirror alone for no reason is enough to drive a man to drink |
| 10:37.15 | petemc | use a different mirror |
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| 10:39.11 | TiMiDo | now im switching to sid |
| 10:39.15 | TiMiDo | let's see |
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| 10:42.54 | RichiH | Shadur: i can ditch both, i don't use pidgin :) |
| 10:43.01 | RichiH | Shadur: it's just strange |
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| 10:43.31 | RichiH | ok, i almost spit my coffee over my screens.. http://xkcd.com/306/ |
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| 10:44.13 | NaufraGo | terminal gives me E: broken packages .. what can I do? |
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| 10:45.21 | psyco-obiwan | good afternoon, does anybody have any hint/idea about the following behaviour: when i access the website http://www.boxtec.ch with a browser on debian sarge it works pretty fine, when i do the same from etch it times out... it also happens with win vista to timeout but not with xp or 2000 ? |
| 10:45.22 | amphi | RichiH: heheh |
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| 10:46.06 | alex__ | psyco-obiwan, check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:46.45 | psyco-obiwan | alex__: nope...i mean a real packet problem, pinging works pretty fine and its reproducable over several hosts |
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| 10:47.27 | ilyak | Hi everyone! |
| 10:47.35 | ilyak | Where would I find debian nvidia one-liner? |
| 10:47.41 | ilyak | I had one but forgot it |
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| 10:48.00 | Ramattack | Hello mates |
| 10:48.26 | Ramattack | I'm compiling openvpn and it's telling me that a library is not found and I'm telling it where it is in configure |
| 10:48.41 | Ramattack | could I tell this to debian in another way? ld.so.conf would be ok? |
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| 10:50.16 | NaufraGo | http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found .... was it changed? what can I do? |
| 10:51.10 | jakub_ | :-D |
| 10:51.26 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 10:51.33 | jakub_ | i`ll continue to todays dialogue about electrician socket :-) |
| 10:51.38 | jakub_ | do girls have socket ? |
| 10:52.03 | petemc | whats that got to do with debian? |
| 10:52.19 | NaufraGo | hello? |
| 10:52.43 | petemc | NaufraGo: it would appear they dont have sarge repos any more |
| 10:53.06 | petemc | NaufraGo: put http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/ in a browser |
| 10:53.26 | petemc | oldstable is what you need, i guess |
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| 10:54.30 | NaufraGo | what about http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ? |
| 10:54.47 | gonzaloaf | hi, why am I receiving a message telling me that vino-server wants to access to the default keyring? should I deny or allow that? |
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| 10:55.17 | petemc | gonzaloaf: do you plan on using the vnc type features of gnome? |
| 10:55.32 | petemc | NaufraGo: stable is etch |
| 10:55.32 | gonzaloaf | petemc, yeap |
| 10:55.47 | petemc | then probably you should allow it |
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| 10:57.49 | NaufraGo | last text was for me? |
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| 10:59.23 | NaufraGo | any way.. what should I change deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main to? |
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| 11:00.54 | tenzind | hi, is there a linux driver for this wireless card: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) |
| 11:01.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: Give us the PCI-ID |
| 11:01.13 | Dark_Apostrophe | lspci -n |
| 11:01.29 | enouf | !which driver |
| 11:01.29 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 11:01.34 | gonzaloaf | petemc, but I dont want to connect to my computer right now, why does it want to access to the keyring right no? |
| 11:01.38 | gonzaloaf | now* |
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| 11:01.56 | enouf | ilyak: /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 11:02.14 | petemc | gonzaloaf: im not 100%, i should imagine its in anticipation of someone wanting to connect |
| 11:02.17 | suwro | hello |
| 11:02.21 | tenzind | Dark_Apostrophe: lspci n says this : 03:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 01) |
| 11:02.31 | suwro | what's the easyest tool to make debian packages from source? |
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| 11:02.48 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 11:02.59 | suwro | i have compiled AND and i want to install it as package. how do i make package from source ? |
| 11:03.01 | Mazingaro | please help me: is it usefull to load ipv6? |
| 11:03.01 | petemc | suwro: checkinstall |
| 11:03.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: 14e44311YesBroadcom CorporationDell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Cardbcm43xxv2.6.21 |
| 11:03.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: There you have the driver name |
| 11:03.16 | suwro | i remember i did this once... aaa |
| 11:03.18 | suwro | ty |
| 11:03.20 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: bcm43xx |
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| 11:03.24 | petemc | Mazingaro: only if you want to use ipv6 |
| 11:03.34 | tenzind | Dark_Apostrophe: wow ... thanks .... |
| 11:03.42 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: No problem |
| 11:04.02 | enouf | !bcm43xx |
| 11:04.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, bcm43xx is the broadcom 43xx series driver; originally available as a patch at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/, it has been included in all kernels after 2.6.17-rc2. http://wiki.debian.org/BCM43xx |
| 11:04.04 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: From now on, if you need to look for drivers for PCI devices, find their PCI-ID and stick them into this website: |
| 11:04.06 | TiMiDo | nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-100.14.11 but it is not installable |
| 11:04.09 | TiMiDo | any ideas? |
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| 11:04.15 | Dark_Apostrophe | !which driver |
| 11:04.15 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 11:04.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | tenzind: ^ |
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| 11:04.25 | dav__ | hi |
| 11:04.31 | tenzind | Dark_Apostrophe: ok ... thanks once again ... |
| 11:04.34 | abchirk | Hi I wrote a text in english... only two sentences anyone likes to correct them? :P |
| 11:04.36 | Dark_Apostrophe | No problem |
| 11:04.39 | dav__ | i m looking for debian dvd contents where could i find that ? |
| 11:04.40 | Mazingaro | petemc: I didn't use ipv6 networking! |
| 11:04.56 | dav__ | just a list of all package i know it s a text file but can't find it back |
| 11:05.07 | dav__ | !dvd-content |
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| 11:05.22 | enouf | !cd contents |
| 11:05.22 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the cds: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search ; If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 11:05.42 | dav__ | !dvd contents |
| 11:05.45 | marc7 | is anybody accustomed to seeing the fsck immediately after debian-installer finishes and the system is going into its first boot... finding errors on the root filesystem which merit a reboot? |
| 11:06.18 | petemc | thats not normal |
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| 11:06.47 | marc7 | okay, so something's just messed in my world. thanks pete. |
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| 11:07.55 | techbie | NaufraGo: deb ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia sarge main |
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| 11:08.44 | petemc | does the oldstable repo in the debian-multimedia mirror not work? |
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| 11:08.54 | TiMiDo | hey can someone give me a hand, everytime i boot up my network doesn't boot, i wonder why everytime i have to reboot i have to do dhclient, |
| 11:09.00 | TiMiDo | how can i fixed this problme |
| 11:09.24 | petemc | TiMiDo: add auto ethN to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:09.32 | TiMiDo | petemc, how? |
| 11:09.38 | petemc | with a text editor |
| 11:09.43 | enouf | !interfaces |
| 11:09.43 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 11:09.43 | TiMiDo | petemc, can you join #flood |
| 11:09.45 | TiMiDo | for a sec? |
| 11:09.48 | petemc | no |
| 11:10.07 | techbie | petemc: they shifted old stable |
| 11:10.15 | TiMiDo | # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system |
| 11:10.15 | TiMiDo | # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). |
| 11:10.15 | TiMiDo | # The loopback network interface |
| 11:10.15 | TiMiDo | auto lo |
| 11:10.15 | TiMiDo | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 11:10.16 | enouf | to? |
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| 11:10.24 | TiMiDo | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 11:10.26 | TiMiDo | # Automatically bring up lo and eth0 |
| 11:10.28 | TiMiDo | auto eth1 lo |
| 11:10.30 | TiMiDo | that's what i have on my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:10.39 | petemc | dont paste here |
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| 11:11.04 | enouf | TiMiDo: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 11:11.10 | NaufraGo | alright.. there're no errors when I update apt .. but when I try to install something.. it gives me E: Broken packages.. and gives me some dependencies |
| 11:11.14 | TiMiDo | sorry |
| 11:11.24 | TiMiDo | petemc, is there something wrong with my, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:11.24 | TiMiDo | ? |
| 11:11.24 | techbie | NaufraGo: or you can use deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia sarge main |
| 11:11.46 | NaufraGo | I already used it |
| 11:11.55 | enouf | NaufraGo: try apt-get install -f (iirc) |
| 11:11.56 | techbie | NaufraGo: can you paste the complete error msg |
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| 11:12.21 | petemc | techbie: i usually have the "auto eth1" line above the "iface eth1 inet dhcp" line, not sure if it matters tho.. |
| 11:12.50 | techbie | petemc:? |
| 11:13.02 | enouf | misfire |
| 11:13.12 | enouf | he means TiMiDo |
| 11:13.16 | TiMiDo | lol |
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| 11:13.27 | enouf | that was funny? |
| 11:13.28 | NaufraGo | (iirc) the package I want to install? |
| 11:13.30 | xushi | this may be silly, but does debian networking work in vmware? |
| 11:13.41 | enouf | !iirc |
| 11:13.41 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 11:13.53 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 11:14.00 | enouf | NaufraGo: try apt-get install -f <-- just that |
| 11:14.09 | NaufraGo | yes, I got it |
| 11:14.48 | enouf | NaufraGo: if your sources.list has ben frankensteined, then yes,you'll have issues |
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| 11:15.14 | TiMiDo | how do i remove gdm from startup? |
| 11:15.28 | enouf | apt-get remove gdm |
| 11:15.40 | TiMiDo | enouf, remove it from start up i know there was a command |
| 11:15.42 | TiMiDo | but i forgot |
| 11:15.46 | xushi | I can't seem to get the network working in vmware.. I installed debian 4.0r1-netinstall in vmware, with bridged networking, and dhcp in network/interfaces for eth0. But ifconfig shows only errors for eth0 |
| 11:15.59 | enouf | !tell TiMiDo aout update-rc.d |
| 11:16.04 | enouf | !tell TiMiDo about update-rc.d |
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| 11:16.12 | GiabboO | lol |
| 11:16.16 | NaufraGo | techbie, did you read my msg? |
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| 11:16.53 | wsxws | hi all :) |
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| 11:17.18 | wsxws | is there a backuptool for ssh which is able to collect me important data by a script ? |
| 11:17.37 | enouf | rsync? |
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| 11:17.48 | xushi | does anyone have experiecne with debian in vmware ? |
| 11:17.56 | petemc | wsxws: dirvish, backuppc |
| 11:18.14 | anomaly | trying to print locally from a remote ssh connection..shouldn't need a printer at the remote machine right? |
| 11:18.21 | wsxws | whichone would u recommend ? |
| 11:18.31 | petemc | i use dirvish |
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| 11:18.48 | petemc | anomaly: how are you sending the job to the printer? |
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| 11:19.38 | enouf | petemc: nice, haven't heard of dirvish |
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| 11:20.07 | petemc | it works well |
| 11:20.17 | anomaly | petemc the project is moving an old dos program from a dead windows machine to a debian box, so remote machines can ssh in and use a dos emulator to run the program. all was going well under they decided they would want to print inventories locally. googling has as yet not helped, and I am stumped so far. lol |
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| 11:21.06 | enouf | i installed backuppc a while back, and looked at configuring it, and noticed the complexity (similar to exim4 i guess), and gave up with that :-) |
| 11:21.27 | anomaly | there isn't remote printing established where the debian box is. only local printers per client location. |
| 11:21.27 | petemc | anomaly: there are plenty of ways of sending print jobs over ssh |
| 11:21.37 | petemc | you can use ssh forwarding |
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| 11:22.15 | TiMiDo | hey i have a question, how do i know when i stick my ipod, to see what fdevice it is, so i can mounted it for example /dev/sda1 |
| 11:22.16 | TiMiDo | or whatever |
| 11:22.18 | anomaly | petemc I have seen how I can get putty to use the local printer, but how I would get it to print is as yet problematic for me. |
| 11:22.46 | enouf | TiMiDo: dmesg or lshal | grep block.device or many others |
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| 11:22.48 | anomaly | petemc does it matter that the remote is debian and the clients are all xp? |
| 11:23.00 | xushi | google only shows vmware on debian, not debian in vmare =/ i'm stuck |
| 11:23.04 | petemc | anomaly: i would imagine it could be done |
| 11:23.21 | enouf | xushi: tried #vmware? |
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| 11:23.34 | xushi | enouf: good advice, i thought here first, but let me ask tehre |
| 11:23.44 | enouf | xushi: and yes, debian isn't meant as a guest ;-) |
| 11:23.48 | petemc | anomaly: it would certainly be easier if both machines ran debian, but as i say, im sure it could be done |
| 11:24.03 | xushi | hehe, we;; i have to test before i deploy ;) |
| 11:24.06 | enouf | especially to a redmond producrt |
| 11:24.21 | TiMiDo | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 11:24.21 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:24.39 | enouf | welp, ipods are defectivebydesign |
| 11:24.46 | TiMiDo | right |
| 11:24.52 | TiMiDo | before i could it mounted it |
| 11:24.58 | enouf | TiMiDo: seen things like gtkpod and such? |
| 11:25.24 | enouf | or specify the FS type |
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| 11:25.37 | TiMiDo | enouf, how |
| 11:25.38 | TiMiDo | ? |
| 11:25.59 | enouf | TiMiDo: mount -t <fstype> |
| 11:26.04 | CharminTheMoose | gtkpod+ an ipod are full of win! |
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| 11:26.18 | enouf | m00sh! |
| 11:26.23 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.31 | anomaly | petemc as a springboard, any suggestions for keywords to search as I continue to research? |
| 11:26.44 | enouf | yep, if it's vfat |
| 11:27.02 | eject_ck | Hi all, I want find where my daemon put own log files how I can monitor my process activity with filesystem ? |
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| 11:27.05 | enouf | file -s /dev/sdXX to check |
| 11:27.30 | xand | eject_ck: your question didn't make much sense, but log files are generally in /var/log |
| 11:27.38 | xushi | hmm, apparently dhclient was not working ?! i had to manually start dhclient myself |
| 11:27.44 | enouf | or udevinfo -q all -n /sys/block/sda/sdaX |
| 11:27.50 | enouf | gah |
| 11:27.55 | enouf | or udevinfo -q all -n /devsda1 |
| 11:28.03 | enouf | or udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sda1 |
| 11:28.07 | GiabboO | :) |
| 11:28.12 | enouf | hehe |
| 11:28.13 | eject_ck | why my question don`t make sense ? |
| 11:28.13 | petemc | anomaly: searching google for something like "cups print remote machine ssh" |
| 11:28.16 | GiabboO | lol |
| 11:28.31 | eject_ck | I want find which files process create or write or delete |
| 11:28.42 | enouf | some sick sado-masochist came up with the PC ketboard |
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| 11:28.46 | anomaly | petemc I am thinking it may be easier too, if I can get them to just do use putty's native clipboard text option lol. thanks for the help. |
| 11:28.48 | GiabboO | LOL |
| 11:28.50 | eject_ck | Does anybody know how it make |
| 11:29.03 | GiabboO | ibm server keyboard rules |
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| 11:29.12 | eject_ck | I use lsof but is not run in monitor mode |
| 11:29.18 | enouf | the 1st one would work if you substitute -p for -n |
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| 11:29.47 | deadmoon | hi |
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| 11:30.19 | CharminTheMoose | jeez enouf, you're not even happy with the PC keyboard, why do you want? to be able to type with your mind? |
| 11:30.28 | enouf | yep ;-) |
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| 11:30.54 | enouf | but i'll settle for < good> speech recognition |
| 11:31.42 | CharminTheMoose | speech recognition is teh blowsz |
| 11:32.11 | gcbirzan | How can I convince aptitude not to install exim over postfix when doing a dist-upgrade from sarge to etch? |
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| 11:33.02 | petemc | gcbirzan: how did you install postfix? |
| 11:33.09 | gcbirzan | Ah, aptitude install postfix? :-) |
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| 11:33.21 | wsxws | okies i guess ill do it as i did it ever before, i simply make a .sh |
| 11:33.45 | petemc | gcbirzan: if you installed it via the debian package system, it shouldnt try to replace it with exim |
| 11:34.22 | gcbirzan | It does, though. Let me finish aptitude upgrade to reduce the list of possible packages which might want to do that, then I'll put up exactly what it tells me. |
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| 11:34.39 | gcbirzan | Silly irssi. *sighs* |
| 11:36.11 | gcbirzan | When I tried to hold postfix, it complained about broken packages being held or some such (meh, went out of the scrollback, can't remember exactly what it said) |
| 11:36.32 | philll | hi all |
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| 11:42.17 | xushi | i'm trying to find Trac through apt-cache, but when i try apt-cache search trac, it gets me pages upon pages of entries.. hwo can i reduce it or make it more accurate ? |
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| 11:43.08 | petemc | apt-cache show trac<tab><tab> |
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| 11:43.54 | xushi | petemc: hmm, that doesn't seem to work for me. tabbing just beeps, even if i try something as apt-cache show t<tab><tab> |
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| 11:44.08 | petemc | source /etc/bash_completion |
| 11:44.35 | xushi | thanks :) |
| 11:44.35 | gcbirzan | http://ics.rndsoft.ro/~gcbirzan/dist-upgrade.txt |
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| 11:45.24 | gcbirzan | Hm. |
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| 11:48.33 | anomaly | petemc cygwin completely escaped my thoughts.. heh. could just install cygwin on a box with sshd and be done with it. ah well. |
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| 11:49.11 | sts | hello folks |
| 11:49.40 | sts | this might be a little OT, but does anybody know if it's possible to use SATA disks for iSCSI solutions? |
| 11:51.27 | xushi | question: Why is it when i install anything from apt-get, it always asks me for the netinstall cd first, to check something, and then continue downloading and installing from the web ? |
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| 11:52.00 | sts | xushi: check you /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cd-rom entry if you don't want it to ask you for the cd. |
| 11:52.08 | sts | s/you/your/ |
| 11:52.14 | xushi | thanks, found it. |
| 11:52.50 | xushi | this is great, i'm really loving debian |
| 11:53.03 | sts | yeah, we all do. ;-) |
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| 11:53.30 | eth01 | how are you able to update to 4.01rc1? |
| 11:53.43 | sts | xushi: have a look about building debian packages if you'd like to play around a bit. it's great stuff :-) |
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| 11:54.01 | streuner | use security.debian.org in sources.list and just run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
| 11:54.19 | eth01 | aptitude ? |
| 11:54.26 | streuner | no |
| 11:54.31 | xushi | i will when i have the time. At the moment, i'm trying to mimic our company server (centos) to see how hard it'll be to make the switch |
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| 11:54.57 | sts | xushi: what applications are you running on this serveR? |
| 11:55.02 | eth01 | http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B] << im using security. |
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| 11:55.42 | eth01 | cat debian_version = 4.0 |
| 11:55.48 | eth01 | shouldn't that be 4.01rc1 ? |
| 11:56.00 | xushi | SVN, LAMP, CMS/DMS at the moment. Mail system, DNS soon |
| 11:56.22 | streuner_ | !listauth zobel |
| 11:56.23 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'zobel' (1): 4.0r0. |
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| 11:56.40 | streuner_ | !4.0r1 |
| 11:56.40 | dpkg | i heard 4.0r1 is the latest update of Debian 4.0, published Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:47:02 UTC. See http://times.debian.net/1161-etch-r1 |
| 11:56.47 | sts | xushi: yeah. that shouldn't be that hard =) there are a lot of tutorials online which you could have a look at. |
| 11:57.24 | xushi | yea. I'm just doing it on vmware at the moment to see the mistakes i make. |
| 11:57.47 | xushi | I'm a happy gentoo user, so i'm happy with starting from netinstall cd.. I was scared to download them 20x CDs :) |
| 11:58.03 | streuner_ | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/ |
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| 11:59.03 | Eulex | eth01, I don't think so. afaik the updates of sarge didn't change it, at least. |
| 11:59.32 | eth01 | ok.. |
| 11:59.39 | streuner_ | heh, sarge? |
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| 11:59.54 | IneedGCCinstalla | hi |
| 12:00.03 | IneedGCCinstalla | anyone here? |
| 12:00.07 | streuner_ | no |
| 12:00.08 | mbroeker | wow distupgrade moves my website away... brb |
| 12:00.13 | eth01 | "how do I install gcc?" |
| 12:00.18 | eth01 | :/ |
| 12:00.22 | streuner_ | !b-e eth01 |
| 12:00.23 | dpkg | eth01: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 12:00.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | I need the same info |
| 12:00.48 | eth01 | heh, -.- |
| 12:00.57 | eth01 | streuner: I didn't need to know m8. |
| 12:01.10 | IneedGCCinstalla | I jsut installed debian on a VM and now it wan'ts me to have a c compiler which I would assume is on my debian iso? |
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| 12:01.30 | IneedGCCinstalla | but I have no idea how to install it |
| 12:01.35 | sts | IneedGCCinstalla: install build-essential |
| 12:01.43 | IneedGCCinstalla | how do I do that? |
| 12:01.45 | streuner_ | eth01: try apt-get install gcc then :-) |
| 12:02.03 | sts | IneedGCCinstalla: open up a shell, and run `apt-get install build-essential` as root.. |
| 12:02.04 | IneedGCCinstalla | <n00b at linux |
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| 12:02.08 | eth01 | jesus. |
| 12:02.12 | streuner_ | !n00b |
| 12:02.12 | dpkg | [n00b] l33t jargon for newbie. |
| 12:02.12 | eth01 | I DON'T need to know :) |
| 12:02.17 | IneedGCCinstalla | haha |
| 12:02.25 | IneedGCCinstalla | not a n00b to computers |
| 12:02.25 | IneedGCCinstalla | ^_^ |
| 12:02.33 | IneedGCCinstalla | that simple huh sts? |
| 12:02.38 | sts | IneedGCCinstalla: yeah |
| 12:02.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'll give it a try brb |
| 12:02.40 | sts | ;-) |
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| 12:02.51 | sts | PMs? |
| 12:02.54 | sts | oh |
| 12:02.57 | sts | part messages :) |
| 12:02.58 | streuner_ | !pm |
| 12:02.58 | dpkg | [pm] private message, or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron: when you see someone say pm, they're asking if you think that they're a pathetic moron, or something you don't do without asking permission, or provocative {preventative} maintenance, or percussive maintenance |
| 12:03.09 | sts | private messages... |
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| 12:03.57 | IneedGCCinstalla | I love you sts!! |
| 12:03.58 | IneedGCCinstalla | >.< |
| 12:04.09 | IneedGCCinstalla | and I love irc |
| 12:04.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | wow its so easy with pidgin |
| 12:04.17 | eth01 | gd4u |
| 12:04.38 | IneedGCCinstalla | sorry your problems a bit harder eh? |
| 12:04.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | haha |
| 12:04.46 | streuner_ | dpkg, make love to IneedGCCinstalla |
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| 12:04.56 | eth01 | yeah, problems with kernals :) a little more, should I say advanced... |
| 12:04.57 | streuner_ | dpkg, love IneedGCCinstalla |
| 12:05.01 | IneedGCCinstalla | O_O |
| 12:05.07 | IneedGCCinstalla | hahaha |
| 12:05.11 | IneedGCCinstalla | your bot? |
| 12:05.18 | wols_ | streuner_: I'd rather let dpkg "fix" him. then no more problems |
| 12:05.19 | streuner_ | dpkg, who own you? |
| 12:05.19 | dpkg | dondelelcaro owns me |
| 12:05.26 | IneedGCCinstalla | I love me some robotic secks |
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| 12:05.39 | streuner_ | wols_: hehe :-) |
| 12:06.04 | streuner_ | eth01: dont make that again please. |
| 12:06.19 | streuner_ | * CTCP VERSION von eth01 empfangen |
| 12:06.24 | IneedGCCinstalla | ok back to installing vm tools |
| 12:06.32 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'll figure out the x console yet |
| 12:06.45 | jeremy_g | hi |
| 12:07.04 | jeremy_g | i just want to get rid of the X windows, what do i do? |
| 12:07.14 | jeremy_g | dpkg purge -r xserver-xorg-v 1.7.2-3 |
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| 12:07.19 | jeremy_g | or apt-get remove xserver-xorg-v 1.7.2-3 |
| 12:07.22 | streuner_ | !remove x |
| 12:07.22 | dpkg | In sarge: apt-get --purge remove xfree86-common In sid/etch: apt-get --purge remove x11-common |
| 12:07.35 | hanover | i want to remove kde and everything that depends on it- and replace it with a different window manager, is there a simple way to do that? |
| 12:07.39 | streuner_ | keep in mind that factoid is prolly old... |
| 12:07.53 | streuner_ | well, its outdated :-) |
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| 12:08.14 | IneedGCCinstalla | anyone here familiar with vmware? |
| 12:08.36 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla : moderately familiar |
| 12:08.41 | xushi | but not on debian |
| 12:08.55 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'm trying to configure the tools but I"ve restarted and I don't know how to re-mount the tools cd image |
| 12:09.15 | jeremy_g | how do i know the space taken up by any given package |
| 12:09.21 | IneedGCCinstalla | the option in the vm drop down menu is cancel tools install |
| 12:09.51 | nnn | anybody know program which can recognise font which use some application (it's perfect). |
| 12:09.51 | streuner_ | jeremy_g: try "apt-get install -s <package>" |
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| 12:10.14 | xushi | is it an iso ? |
| 12:10.17 | InsomniaCity | Hi! Is there a command line LDAP client I can install with apt? |
| 12:10.34 | jeremy_g | streuner:i dont want to install , i want to find out the biggest space consumer n get rid of it |
| 12:10.39 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: have you tried vmware-mount.pl ? |
| 12:10.40 | IneedGCCinstalla | I dunno I'm gunna see if its in the vmware path |
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| 12:11.03 | IneedGCCinstalla | no havent tried that not sure that would do it thoguh |
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| 12:11.04 | streuner_ | rm <pr0n> :-P |
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| 12:11.53 | nnn | people I need your help!! I search program which can recognize font, which use some application (sory for my English )) |
| 12:11.54 | bullgard4 | What is a 'Linux source tree'? See for example http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kernel/ |
| 12:11.55 | streuner_ | Debian doesnt need much space... |
| 12:12.32 | IneedGCCinstalla | which font? |
| 12:13.00 | nnn | yes,\.. name... I see font but I don't know it called |
| 12:13.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | and what application? |
| 12:13.18 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: see if this helps http://www.stupid-penguin.com/index.php?title=Installing_VMWare_Tools |
| 12:13.20 | mbroeker | to all leny-distupgraders with non-free nvidia-drivers: rerun the nvidia-linux-installer AFTER distupgrade... |
| 12:13.20 | nnn | nvu |
| 12:13.36 | nnn | only nvu and swiftfox use it font |
| 12:13.53 | InsomniaCity | Hi! Is there a command line LDAP client I can install with apt? |
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| 12:14.03 | IneedGCCinstalla | those instructions are inccorect |
| 12:14.13 | IneedGCCinstalla | its says go to file>install vmware tools |
| 12:14.20 | nnn | other applications use another... I want know what font name which they use |
| 12:14.20 | IneedGCCinstalla | but I don't have that option under file |
| 12:15.01 | IneedGCCinstalla | you should be able to see the font name when you go to change the font in swiftfox |
| 12:15.08 | IneedGCCinstalla | wahtever that is |
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| 12:16.08 | nnn | but this is interface font... swiftox like firefox (can't change it from gui) |
| 12:16.18 | nnn | what is why I can define font name |
| 12:16.45 | nnn | usually I cab edit .css in profile for change font name |
| 12:17.01 | nnn | but swiftfox and nvu have no this files |
| 12:17.13 | IneedGCCinstalla | now you've lost me I'm sorry |
| 12:17.24 | nnn | )) |
| 12:17.47 | krassy | I have deleted Xorg.conf what i have to do to recover my stuped error ? |
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| 12:17.56 | IneedGCCinstalla | xushi: I can't use those instructions because I loaded the debian iso when I was trying to get gcc |
| 12:17.59 | jeremy_g | apt-get remove pkg-name is cute..it works |
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| 12:18.03 | IneedGCCinstalla | now I don't know how to get the tools iso back |
| 12:18.07 | nnn | in Windows program what I search caled like restorator |
| 12:18.28 | nnn | like restoratoe in Linux? |
| 12:18.48 | nnn | show X(gtk) resource maybe |
| 12:18.59 | eject_ck | how I can find where word "mail" is present inside /etc |
| 12:19.08 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: are you trying to install debian on vmware, or vmware on debian ? |
| 12:19.35 | eject_ck | something like : find /etc | cat | grep mail |
| 12:19.43 | IneedGCCinstalla | neither I"ve installed vm on debian now I"m trying to install "vmware tools" on debian for increased functionality |
| 12:19.56 | IneedGCCinstalla | well I"ve installed it but I still need to configure it before it will work |
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| 12:20.07 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'm sorry nnn I don't know |
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| 12:20.27 | lvh | hi |
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| 12:20.54 | wols_ | eject_ck: grep -r mail /etc/* |
| 12:22.10 | xushi | hm, i always thought you install the vmware tools inside a guest OS in vmware |
| 12:22.32 | IneedGCCinstalla | you do |
| 12:22.41 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'm gunna try running the installer again |
| 12:22.50 | IneedGCCinstalla | erm manually |
| 12:22.58 | lvh | rgrep ftw, wols_ |
| 12:23.22 | wols_ | why would I need rgrep when normal grep can do it? |
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| 12:23.47 | IneedGCCinstalla | scratch that the installer isn't in my tmp folder anymore |
| 12:23.50 | lvh | wols_: you used rgrep, actually |
| 12:23.53 | IneedGCCinstalla | I shouldn't have restarted |
| 12:23.54 | IneedGCCinstalla | damn |
| 12:24.02 | lvh | wols_: or, rgrep would've used grep -r |
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| 12:24.18 | lvh | wols_: the two are synonymous, except rgrep takes 2 less keystokes :p |
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| 12:33.46 | IneedGCCinstalla | ok xushu: I got it running again but now its asking me this "what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" and apparently it isn't [/usr/src/linux/include] |
| 12:34.20 | xushi | ah, yea, that's an annoying bug |
| 12:34.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | do you know what I can do about it? |
| 12:34.44 | hanover | how an i remove kde? |
| 12:34.49 | hanover | can* |
| 12:35.14 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: you need the any any patch |
| 12:35.33 | IneedGCCinstalla | k how do I get that? |
| 12:35.40 | IneedGCCinstalla | can I do it from x? |
| 12:35.52 | IneedGCCinstalla | like gcc? *hopefull* |
| 12:35.54 | IneedGCCinstalla | hehe |
| 12:36.00 | xushi | erm, from vmware's site i guess ? |
| 12:36.16 | xushi | check this8 out: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/02/msg02810.html |
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| 12:38.35 | IneedGCCinstalla | http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=76957&tstart=0 |
| 12:38.43 | IneedGCCinstalla | this guy sounds like a pesemist |
| 12:39.11 | fireba11 | http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update109.tar.gz |
| 12:39.28 | xushi | question: how can i get more info on a package in apt-cache, like waht version it is, etc ? |
| 12:39.28 | xushi | apt-cache show. Nevermind |
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| 12:40.03 | jeremy_g | how much disk space a particular debian package is holding? how do i find this?? |
| 12:40.04 | xushi | strange.. when you tell apt-get to install mysql-server-4, it installs 5.0.32 |
| 12:40.16 | xushi | jeremy_g: apt-cache show should show you |
| 12:40.21 | wols_ | there is no mysql4 anymore |
| 12:40.28 | lvh | xushi: msql4 is phased out |
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| 12:40.31 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 12:40.34 | xushi | oh |
| 12:40.46 | wols_ | xushi: apt-cache show <package> |
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| 12:40.57 | wols_ | it has installed size. how accurate that is, is another matter however |
| 12:41.15 | xushi | wols_: directed to jeremy_g |
| 12:41.19 | lvh | xushi: basically unsupported. That package silently upgrades to 5 to make people that manually installed version 4 slently upgrade ;-) |
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| 12:41.40 | gypsymauro | I've to transver everyday a dump over network using scp or something like that, it's a 2-3 GB, a tgz file and its changes are ~ 500 MB by day, what's the best way to transfer it? |
| 12:41.47 | xushi | hehe that's strage.. I mean I'm sure there are scenarios where one would need mysql4. I mean, is it really deprecated already ? |
| 12:41.51 | xushi | heck php4 is lasting this long |
| 12:42.13 | xushi | gypsymauro: i would use rsync |
| 12:42.28 | xushi | but there's wput too |
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| 12:43.01 | gypsymauro | xushi: rsync works well with big files too? |
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| 12:43.15 | xushi | yea, i use it to transfer 20Gb files |
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| 12:43.29 | xushi | there's also a compression prefix too |
| 12:43.43 | xushi | i think -z |
| 12:44.05 | z3r0ph3wl | i try to install lilo on other disk: i mount disk to /mnt then i chroot /mnt /bin/bash and then i try to write lilo and i get open: /dev/hda.no such device - yes cuz its /dev/sda. how to change it to lilo? |
| 12:44.14 | lvh | 2.5 GB isn't so bad |
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| 12:44.38 | xushi | i safely transfer 20Gb images with rsync on a daily basis |
| 12:44.40 | jeremy_g | xushi:thanks, but how do i find the top 10 packages consuming most of my disk space. |
| 12:44.52 | gypsymauro | xushi: what I mean is, rsync does just differential transfer of a big file that is modified day by day? I usually use zsync but it works on http and I don't want in this case to use http protocol |
| 12:45.00 | jeremy_g | wols_:thanks, you too. |
| 12:45.00 | xushi | jeremy_g: you'll have to ask the channel. I've just started yesterday with debian myself :) |
| 12:45.09 | lvh | xushi: what arcane medium are you transferring from that measures file size in bits? |
| 12:45.14 | jeremy_g | hehe ok xushi |
| 12:45.20 | jeremy_g | how do i find the top 10 packages consuming most of my disk space. |
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| 12:45.47 | lvh | jeremy_g: there is probably a much better way to do this, but: perl. |
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| 12:46.16 | lvh | jeremy_g: also, you'd have to assume that the installed package size is accurate, which like wols_ said is indeed nothing but an assumption ;-) |
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| 12:47.51 | xushi | gypsymauro: didnt really understand the first part of the question, but yes, rsync does do differential transfers. I wouldn't imagine why not for big files too. |
| 12:47.54 | lvh | jeremy_g: so, i'd probably go with something like 1. get list of installed packages, 2. iterate over it (foreach ($package) @packages) 3. regexp the size and name, add to a hash, sort the hash on value (size), print a nice table with the hash keys :) |
| 12:48.03 | xushi | lvh: why would it measure the file size in bits ? |
| 12:48.19 | lvh | xushi: oh, by Gb you secretly meant GB? |
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| 12:48.28 | xushi | yes :) |
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| 12:49.08 | xushi | i think i should start differential syncs with my data.. transferring 200k files in 150k folders on a dialy basis is insane |
| 12:49.10 | lvh | i'd rather pay for 1 mWh than 1 MWh :-p |
| 12:49.20 | IneedGCCinstalla | what does unable to open installer database... locations in read mode mean??? |
| 12:49.40 | lvh | xushi: what % of it changes? |
| 12:49.58 | xushi | at the moment, nothing |
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| 12:50.08 | xushi | it's a backup of my uni work and notes |
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| 12:50.19 | xushi | i had to put them on hold when i started work this year |
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| 12:50.54 | jeremy_g | lvh:thanks, i already has sth similar to this as plan b, but there gotta be some pre-built way |
| 12:50.55 | xushi | well ok.. maybe a few megs different every week ;) |
| 12:51.07 | IneedGCCinstalla | arg |
| 12:51.22 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: didyou mount read-only only ? |
| 12:51.32 | IneedGCCinstalla | oh no |
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| 12:52.27 | lvh | jeremy_g: not that i know of. I'm by no means an apt expert but I do know my way around it quite wlel |
| 12:52.30 | lvh | jeremy_g: *well |
| 12:52.32 | IneedGCCinstalla | wait what? |
| 12:52.42 | fsdsa | hi, i enable eth1 to ip 10.10.0.1 and i change the ip of my 2th computer to 10.10.0.2. i lnked together but i cannot ping the server. someone got an idea |
| 12:52.57 | IneedGCCinstalla | do I jsut write mount read-only only? |
| 12:52.57 | lvh | IneedGCCinstalla: mount -o remount,ro /dev/whatever/fs/hes/talking/about /mnt/mymountpoint |
| 12:53.09 | enouf | jeremy_g: try cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; du -b ./* | sort -fgr | less |
| 12:53.11 | IneedGCCinstalla | with whatever in there? |
| 12:53.27 | IneedGCCinstalla | haha |
| 12:53.29 | IneedGCCinstalla | what |
| 12:53.31 | IneedGCCinstalla | haha |
| 12:53.46 | lvh | fsdsa: sudo ifconfig eth1 up |
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| 12:53.51 | IneedGCCinstalla | wtf ever hes talking about /mnt/my nose port |
| 12:53.56 | lvh | fsdsa: also make sure that your route tables dint get accidentally clobbered |
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| 12:54.47 | fsdsa | lvh: my eth1 is enable |
| 12:54.51 | lvh | fsdsa: ie make sure that the 10.0.0.0/8 (or /24, depending on your netmask) points to eth1 |
| 12:54.53 | gypsymauro | xushi: I'm tryng rsync :) tanx |
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| 12:54.58 | fsdsa | lvh: how can i know aout the route link.. |
| 12:55.08 | lvh | fsdsa: sudo route |
| 12:55.10 | xushi | for now, try rsync -Wavz --progress |
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| 12:55.22 | lvh | xushi: he's gone already im afraid |
| 12:55.30 | xushi | =/ |
| 12:55.36 | IneedGCCinstalla | eh |
| 12:55.36 | lvh | fsdsa: you should see a line like this: |
| 12:55.38 | IneedGCCinstalla | oh |
| 12:55.44 | fsdsa | lvh: my sudo route show me the 10.10.0.0. * genmask at 0.0.0.0 |
| 12:55.47 | fsdsa | lvh: seem ok |
| 12:55.57 | lvh | fsdsa: 10.0.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
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| 12:56.08 | lvh | fsdsa: which one is it, 10.10 or 10.0 |
| 12:56.08 | IneedGCCinstalla | how/what do I mount xushi? |
| 12:56.08 | fsdsa | you right it show me this |
| 12:56.16 | IneedGCCinstalla | I'm sorry for being a pain in the ass |
| 12:56.18 | fsdsa | 10.10.0.0 |
| 12:56.20 | IneedGCCinstalla | I really appreciate the help |
| 12:56.27 | fsdsa | lvh: gateway at * |
| 12:56.35 | lunk | 10.10.0.0 isn't in 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 12:56.38 | lvh | fsdsa: if your netmask is 255.255.255.0, BOTH computers need to have an ip in the 10.0.0.0/24 range |
| 12:56.41 | lvh | indeed |
| 12:56.52 | fsdsa | my netmask is at 0.0.0.0 |
| 12:56.58 | lvh | er? |
| 12:57.01 | cubiq | Anyone familiar with grub's fallback method? |
| 12:57.04 | lvh | okay |
| 12:57.08 | SerajewelKS | fsdsa: then your configuration is seriously borked |
| 12:57.09 | lvh | so you have zero network bits |
| 12:57.12 | fsdsa | lvh: m server ip 10.10.0.1 my sec comp: 10.10.0.2 |
| 12:57.21 | lvh | fsdsa: on both computers: |
| 12:57.22 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: i'm sorry, i'm just totally lost here to what's being done. The only thing i know is that you install the tools AFTER installing a guest os, INSIDE the guest os |
| 12:57.23 | SerajewelKS | fsdsa: change the netmask on both to 255.255.0.0 |
| 12:57.29 | lvh | fsdsa: ifconfig eth1 netmask 255.255.0.0 |
| 12:57.33 | SerajewelKS | er. lvh, sorry, don't mean to interrupt |
| 12:57.34 | lvh | fsdsa: or 255.0.0.0 |
| 12:57.42 | lvh | fsdsa: or 255.255.255.0 |
| 12:57.47 | lvh | fsdsa: but not 0.0.0.0 |
| 12:57.50 | fsdsa | ok i changed to 255.255.0.0 |
| 12:58.00 | IneedGCCinstalla | yeh I've done that already |
| 12:58.05 | SerajewelKS | if your mask is 0.0.0.0 then you're really *in* the internet :) |
| 12:58.07 | lvh | fsdsa: you can even go for 255.214.108.0 |
| 12:58.11 | fsdsa | tat weird i set in the etc/network/interface at 255.255.0.0 |
| 12:58.13 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: what's your next step now ? |
| 12:58.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | I"m tryin gto install any any now |
| 12:58.16 | fsdsa | but my route say me 0.0.0.0 |
| 12:58.23 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: also, give #vmware a try too |
| 12:58.25 | lvh | oh god |
| 12:58.25 | lvh | wait |
| 12:58.26 | IneedGCCinstalla | but I get that error |
| 12:58.34 | lvh | fsdsa: please tell me you're not reading from the "default" line |
| 12:58.34 | IneedGCCinstalla | oh sweet |
| 12:58.36 | xushi | the any any ? |
| 12:58.42 | fsdsa | well i changed manuelly to 255.255.0.0 with ifconfig command |
| 12:58.47 | fsdsa | lvh: what do you mean? |
| 12:58.57 | IneedGCCinstalla | the any any update |
| 12:59.00 | lvh | fsdsa: there should be two lines at least in your routing table |
| 12:59.05 | xushi | did you apply it \? |
| 12:59.09 | IneedGCCinstalla | supposed to fix my header preoblem |
| 12:59.16 | lvh | fsdsa: paste the entire output of sudo route in a pastebin please |
| 12:59.18 | IneedGCCinstalla | no I"m trying to and I get that error |
| 12:59.22 | lvh | fsdsa: 0.0.0.0 is ok for your default route |
| 12:59.34 | lvh | fsdsa: however it is NOT ok for your internal network route ;-) |
| 12:59.39 | fsdsa | lvh: i added a defaultroute yesterday |
| 12:59.47 | fsdsa | lvh: pointed to my DNs outside of the network |
| 12:59.58 | fsdsa | lvh>: iok i will send you the sudo rougte |
| 13:00.45 | lvh | fsdsa: pastebin please |
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| 13:00.59 | fsdsa | lvh: http://pastebin.com/m1490d170 |
| 13:01.43 | lvh | fsdsa: that looks ok, but strange |
| 13:01.45 | fsdsa | here the interface configuratin: http://pastebin.com/m799ec048 |
| 13:02.06 | lvh | fsdsa: do you have 2 internal networks? |
| 13:02.06 | fsdsa | yes and 2 network card |
| 13:02.06 | fsdsa | 1 for wan |
| 13:02.06 | fsdsa | and 1 for lan |
| 13:02.06 | lvh | fsdsa: okay... and neither is connected to the internet, right? |
| 13:02.08 | lvh | fsdsa: lol |
| 13:02.12 | fsdsa | it worked on net |
| 13:02.14 | fsdsa | i can ping outside |
| 13:02.20 | fsdsa | but cannot pint my windows XP under 10.10.0.2 |
| 13:02.27 | lvh | fsdsa: ok, why is your eth0 destination called "localnet"? |
| 13:02.36 | lvh | fsdsa: 10.10.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
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| 13:02.46 | lvh | fsdsa: so clearly your internal network is on eth1 ;-) |
| 13:02.55 | fsdsa | yes! |
| 13:02.59 | fsdsa | =) |
| 13:03.07 | lvh | fsdsa: yes! what? |
| 13:03.12 | fsdsa | eth0 = wan |
| 13:03.14 | fsdsa | eth1 = lan |
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| 13:03.16 | lvh | fsdsa: your routing tables are messed up? |
| 13:03.18 | lvh | fsdsa: yes! |
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| 13:03.23 | fsdsa | xD LOL |
| 13:03.42 | fsdsa | well |
| 13:03.42 | lvh | ok, so now explain why Destination: localnet is on eth0? |
| 13:03.52 | fsdsa | i have no idea... O_O |
| 13:03.56 | fsdsa | i can delete it lol |
| 13:04.02 | lvh | fsdsa: please do. |
| 13:04.04 | fsdsa | it used to be there by default.. |
| 13:04.30 | lvh | SerajewelKS: on second thought, your netmask made more sense |
| 13:04.37 | lvh | fsdsa: what? Destination: localnet? |
| 13:04.41 | lvh | fsdsa: don't lie to me ;-) |
| 13:04.50 | fsdsa | lvh: how can i delete the route.. |
| 13:05.00 | fsdsa | i dont even know what is localnet. :S |
| 13:05.05 | lvh | fsdsa: man route |
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| 13:05.12 | lvh | fsdsa: you're looking for a command named route del |
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| 13:05.39 | lvh | fsdsa: route del localnet should be enough |
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| 13:05.54 | Thunderman | Hi, how can I install nVidia drivers (GeForce 256) to Debian 40 |
| 13:05.58 | Thunderman | *4.0 |
| 13:06.04 | IneedGCCinstalla | xushi do you know what this error means?: unable to open the installer database /ect/vmware/locations in read-mode. |
| 13:06.04 | IneedGCCinstalla | Execution aborted. |
| 13:06.20 | fsdsa | lvh: invalid argument lol |
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| 13:06.33 | lvh | fsdsa: er? |
| 13:06.41 | Dewi | can remote XDMCP sessions be disconnected/reconnected without my apps dying? |
| 13:06.42 | fsdsa | lvh: anyway i dont think this is thew problem why my serverisnt talk with my client |
| 13:06.49 | lvh | fsdsa: i think it is |
| 13:06.57 | fsdsa | lvh: route del localnet ---- SIOCDELRT: Invalid argument |
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| 13:07.53 | lvh | fsdsa: route del -net localnet |
| 13:08.03 | lvh | fsdsa: unless localnet is a host on your strange network |
| 13:08.07 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: are you installing that on the guest os, or host os ? |
| 13:09.10 | fsdsa | lvh: invalid argument |
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| 13:09.45 | fsdsa | lvh: lol localnet..... |
| 13:09.49 | Thunderman | Does anyone know how can I isntall nVidia legac drivers? |
| 13:09.56 | lvh | Thunderman: stable? |
| 13:10.03 | Thunderman | yes |
| 13:10.22 | lvh | Thunderman: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 13:10.26 | wols_ | Thunderman: apt-cache search legacy|grep nvidia |
| 13:10.27 | lvh | Thunderman: quite accurate |
| 13:10.39 | lvh | Thunderman: yeah. That wiki article is a bit more eloquent ;-) |
| 13:10.40 | fsdsa | lvh: localnet is myself |
| 13:10.45 | fsdsa | lvh: localnet is my server |
| 13:10.46 | xushi | IneedGCCinstalla: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=266994񁋲 |
| 13:10.48 | xushi | see if that helps |
| 13:10.57 | lvh | fsdsa: then why is it a route on eth0? |
| 13:11.32 | lvh | fsdsa: anything called localnet is currently being sent out on eth0, which is your wan interface |
| 13:11.37 | SerajewelKS | fsdsa: this isn't for a production system, is it? |
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| 13:11.48 | fsdsa | SerajewelKS: no its a test machin right now |
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| 13:12.04 | lvh | also, who or what is 192.168.3.1 |
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| 13:12.26 | SerajewelKS | lvh: that's my router, how'd you know? :) |
| 13:12.26 | lvh | thats your default gw |
| 13:12.29 | IneedGCCinstalla | I was looking at that where is the solution?? |
| 13:12.31 | fsdsa | lvh: is my cyurrently dns |
| 13:12.33 | lvh | SerajewelKS: hahaha |
| 13:12.43 | lvh | fsdsa: its also your gateway so its more than your dns ;-) |
| 13:12.44 | fsdsa | lvh: yes by default gateway |
| 13:12.50 | SerajewelKS | lvh: you hacked me! |
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| 13:13.14 | lvh | SerajewelKS: omg but thats my ip too WE CANT BE ON THE SAME INTERNETZ |
| 13:13.34 | lvh | SerajewelKS: go get your own series of tubes |
| 13:13.46 | fsdsa | lvh: so what should i do to fix my probem |
| 13:13.55 | lvh | fsdsa: localnet is a hostname then? |
| 13:14.18 | fsdsa | lvh: actually i dont think so. because my localhost nameis firewall |
| 13:14.20 | Eulex | lvh, my tubes are clogged, may I change with yours? |
| 13:14.22 | IneedGCCinstalla | ahh it seems I screwed myself when I installed the web hosting for debian |
| 13:14.23 | fsdsa | lvh: tat why it pretty weird |
| 13:14.26 | lvh | fsdsa: your hostnames make me cry. seriously. don't name hostnames anything ending in -net ;-) |
| 13:14.30 | IneedGCCinstalla | according to that forum anyway |
| 13:14.36 | Thunderman | " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?" |
| 13:14.38 | lvh | fsdsa: localhost and localnet have nothing to do with each other |
| 13:14.46 | xushi | hehe |
| 13:14.50 | lvh | fsdsa: localnet is something YOU added |
| 13:14.50 | fsdsa | lvh: ok then what is localnet... |
| 13:14.56 | lvh | fsdsa: look up |
| 13:15.15 | lvh | fsdsa: added wrongly might i add, since its on your wan if |
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| 13:15.50 | fsdsa | it pretty weird because i never add any route except the current default one. |
| 13:16.01 | lvh | fsdsa: sudo route -n |
| 13:16.02 | lewis222 | ten points for the person who knows where I can get a low-profile cooling fan in London - anyone? |
| 13:16.19 | Thunderman | "/usr/bin/apt-get: /usr/bin/apt-get: cannot execute binary file |
| 13:16.19 | Thunderman | "/usr/bin/apt-get: /usr/bin/apt-get: cannot execute binary file" |
| 13:16.22 | lvh | lewis222: define low-profile |
| 13:16.31 | lewis222 | for a 1U active heatsink |
| 13:16.33 | fsdsa | lvh:: its 102.168.3.0 = localnet |
| 13:16.47 | fsdsa | lvh: whcih is my extern network wan.. |
| 13:16.56 | lvh | fsdsa: please name your networks something sensible, thanks |
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| 13:17.04 | lvh | fsdsa: yes, but on the box you're working on |
| 13:17.13 | lvh | fsdsa: its your EXTERNAL network, not "localnet" by any means |
| 13:17.22 | wols_ | lewis222: #hardware |
| 13:17.34 | lewis222 | ok - less people there, but ok... |
| 13:17.40 | lvh | fsdsa: route del -net 192.168.3.0 |
| 13:17.54 | Eulex | lewis222, but more on-topic. |
| 13:17.55 | lvh | lewis222: tbf, i have no clue, never had to buy that in london ;-) |
| 13:17.57 | IneedGCCinstalla | where are the c header files in debian? |
| 13:18.03 | fsdsa | lvh:: still invalid argument |
| 13:18.06 | lvh | IneedGCCinstalla: C header files for what |
| 13:18.07 | lewis222 | yeh but #debian guys are smarter |
| 13:18.07 | wols_ | !tell IneedGCCinstalla about b-e |
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| 13:18.26 | IneedGCCinstalla | wahts b-e? |
| 13:18.34 | wols_ | lewis222: we are also more iritable and nastier |
| 13:18.35 | lvh | !tell me about b-e |
| 13:18.42 | wols_ | IneedGCCinstalla: dpkg msged you |
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| 13:19.23 | fsdsa | lvh:: ok i deleted it with Webmin :))) |
| 13:19.30 | lewis222 | ok - thanks, well, twas worth a shot |
| 13:19.30 | lvh | fsdsa: what the fuck did you do with your routing table |
| 13:19.43 | lvh | fsdsa: pastebin me your new output of sudo route please |
| 13:19.49 | Thunderman | What I should do :/ |
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| 13:20.11 | lvh | Thunderman: apt-get moo |
| 13:20.14 | lvh | Thunderman: shows you? |
| 13:20.16 | fsdsa | lvh http://pastebin.com/m915af7 |
| 13:20.25 | wols_ | fsdsa: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file please |
| 13:20.29 | Thunderman | yep |
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| 13:20.44 | wols_ | fsdsa: and uninstall webmin. debian doesn't support webmin |
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| 13:20.54 | fsdsa | tat my interface: http://pastebin.com/m3838e671 |
| 13:21.01 | wols_ | Thunderman: are you root? |
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| 13:21.09 | Thunderman | I don't know |
| 13:21.25 | IneedGCCinstalla | ='[ |
| 13:21.35 | Dantix | hi all, I have a couple of server running HA and mirroring hard disk using drbd. Now one of the hd is giving me several errors in messages log. I know if I change the failing hd and start drbd it itself will take care of recontruct the data over the blank new hd, but it will take a lot of time with the server out of line. Question: are there a way to get up the new hard disk working much faster, for example duplicating it with dd or something like that? |
| 13:21.37 | lvh | Thunderman: whoami |
| 13:22.02 | lvh | fsdsa: you don't need to specify the network and broadcast line btw, as long as you have an ip and a netmask |
| 13:22.30 | fsdsa | <lvh: tat for the eth1 right? |
| 13:22.36 | IneedGCCinstalla | so I already have b-e that was the first thing I did |
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| 13:22.38 | lvh | fsdsa: all of them |
| 13:22.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | ;lsdkfjal;sjf;alksj |
| 13:22.53 | fsdsa | lvh: oh because debian add me tat by default during installation |
| 13:22.58 | lvh | SNR: 0 |
| 13:23.05 | lvh | fsdsa: orly |
| 13:23.13 | Thunderman | lvh: whoami? |
| 13:23.19 | lvh | There are so many things that your debian installation does that mine doesn't : |
| 13:23.23 | lvh | Thunderman: yeah. |
| 13:23.25 | lvh | Thunderman: on a shell. |
| 13:23.34 | lvh | Thunderman: it tells you (surprise surprise) who you are |
| 13:23.39 | wols_ | IneedGCCinstalla: then you have C headers |
| 13:23.41 | Thunderman | it works |
| 13:23.45 | lvh | Thunderman: you are? |
| 13:23.57 | wols_ | but since you have a vmware problem /msg dpkg vmware |
| 13:23.58 | lvh | fsdsa: anyway, doesnt matter |
| 13:24.05 | Thunderman | it shows my nsme |
| 13:24.07 | lvh | fsdsa: this box you are pinging is a windows box yeah? |
| 13:24.07 | Thunderman | *name |
| 13:24.12 | lvh | Thunderman: which name? |
| 13:24.17 | fsdsa | lvh: windows and linux d not ping together |
| 13:24.17 | lvh | Thunderman: thunderman? |
| 13:24.18 | Thunderman | user name |
| 13:24.22 | fsdsa | lvh: i canonly ping my eth0 |
| 13:24.22 | poncha | where do i set a default gateway (permanently, not by route add default gw .... ) on debian? (so that it will stay on networking restart)? |
| 13:24.27 | fsdsa | lvh: buyt my eth1 doesnt work at all |
| 13:24.46 | fsdsa | lvh: howveer my NIC card work perfectly. i tested it |
| 13:24.58 | lvh | fsdsa: hang on, which network is this windows box attached to? |
| 13:25.12 | lvh | fsdsa: if you can ping your external ip |
| 13:25.15 | Thunderman | What I need to do |
| 13:25.17 | lvh | fsdsa: but not your internal ip |
| 13:25.25 | fsdsa | lvh: exatcly |
| 13:25.47 | IneedGCCinstalla | wols_ usr/src doesn't have linux/locations in it |
| 13:25.48 | lvh | fsdsa: this means the windows box either has 2 network cards or is attached to the wrong network |
| 13:25.49 | IneedGCCinstalla | is that bad? |
| 13:26.07 | SerajewelKS | ok, i typed ^S from vim and now it's frozen... how do i restore it? |
| 13:26.17 | lvh | SerajewelKS: ^Q |
| 13:26.22 | wols_ | IneedGCCinstalla: those aren't c header files in "linux" |
| 13:26.26 | fsdsa | lvh: nah :P my windows oly has 1 network card |
| 13:26.28 | SerajewelKS | lvh: thanks |
| 13:26.29 | wols_ | but since you didn't do what I told you: |
| 13:26.31 | wols_ | !vmware |
| 13:26.32 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask the vendor for support, or ask here: #vmware |
| 13:26.49 | poncha | err... if i add to /etc/network/interfaces gateway to both network interfaces, it makes both default o_O |
| 13:27.04 | poncha | so now i have two gateways to 0.0.0.0 .. how is that possible? :) |
| 13:27.08 | lvh | fsdsa: you can ping 192.168.3.whatever (eth0 on your firewall) from your windows box |
| 13:27.14 | lvh | fsdsa: but NOT 10.10.0.1? |
| 13:27.29 | wols_ | poncha: multihomed. you can have many |
| 13:27.35 | wols_ | but only one default gateway |
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| 13:28.10 | lvh | fsdsa: your windows box isn't configured correctly. you can't ping 192.168.3.0/24 from 10.10.0.0/16. |
| 13:28.12 | fsdsa | lvh: nop my windows box doenst have any ping |
| 13:28.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | wols_: waht about this error message: unable to open the installer database /ect/vmware/locations in read-mode. |
| 13:28.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | Execution aborted. |
| 13:28.26 | wols_ | IneedGCCinstalla: I don't give a fuck since that is NOT debian |
| 13:28.27 | fsdsa | lvh: howveer when iconenct it directly to my 192.168 |
| 13:28.29 | fsdsa | lvh: it work |
| 13:28.38 | IneedGCCinstalla | I get that when trying to install vmware-any-any-update109 |
| 13:28.42 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.42 | SpeedyG | what can be the issue if nslookup, ping, etc takes fairly long to execute ? dns problems (ping /nslookup to google.com) |
| 13:28.49 | poncha | wols_: and how do i know which is default if route -n shows them both on 0.0.0.0 just on different nics ? |
| 13:28.49 | IneedGCCinstalla | it is debian |
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| 13:28.52 | IneedGCCinstalla | I mean |
| 13:28.56 | IneedGCCinstalla | I"m runnign debian |
| 13:29.10 | wols_ | IneedGCCinstalla: then install debian software or go away. vmware is not debian |
| 13:29.17 | lvh | fsdsa: you can ping 10.10.0.1 if you connect it to your other internal network? |
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| 13:29.26 | IneedGCCinstalla | I installed vmware on debian |
| 13:29.28 | Thunderman | How can I install nVidia legacy drivers :) |
| 13:29.37 | IneedGCCinstalla | I mean debian on vmware |
| 13:29.39 | IneedGCCinstalla | damn I'm tired |
| 13:29.50 | lvh | Thunderman: follow the wiki page i linked you. |
| 13:29.54 | slap | vmware works much better on windows |
| 13:29.57 | IneedGCCinstalla | I"m sorry I know I should ask in vmware chat and I am but they don't know anthing |
| 13:30.14 | fsdsa | lvh: 10.10.0.1 canot be pinged with windows |
| 13:30.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | I have win xp>vmware>debian |
| 13:30.30 | SpeedyG | IneedGCCinstalla: sounds familiar :) |
| 13:30.31 | Thunderman | But there is so many commands |
| 13:30.37 | lvh | fsdsa: this is what i told you five minutes ago ;-) |
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| 13:30.57 | lvh | Thunderman: no there isn't. Four in total that you have to do on a default config. |
| 13:31.02 | SpeedyG | lvh: have you read my question just a few minutes ago? :) (seems like you know quite some stuff on networking ;) ) |
| 13:31.13 | fsdsa | lvh: o___________o let me try |
| 13:31.20 | fsdsa | lvh: after deleting the localnet |
| 13:31.25 | fsdsa | lvh: maybe it will work .. |
| 13:31.32 | lvh | SpeedyG: not really, more than fsdsa though ;-) |
| 13:31.32 | Thunderman | How can I be root |
| 13:31.42 | lvh | Thunderman: log in as root, or su - |
| 13:31.58 | IneedGCCinstalla | where do the c header files that corespond to debian install with b-e???\ |
| 13:32.02 | lvh | Thunderman: or sudo [command], but sudo is probably not configured on your system |
| 13:32.10 | Thunderman | user name root and normal password? |
| 13:32.13 | lvh | SpeedyG: ok, slow dns issue eh? |
| 13:32.15 | Thunderman | ok |
| 13:32.18 | lvh | Thunderman: password you set for root |
| 13:32.18 | SpeedyG | probably |
| 13:32.26 | SpeedyG | thing is, its my router |
| 13:32.27 | lvh | Thunderman: this can be the same or a different one |
| 13:32.30 | SpeedyG | and it works like crap |
| 13:32.38 | Thunderman | "is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
| 13:32.39 | SpeedyG | pinging anything from behind it, works like a charm |
| 13:32.47 | lvh | Thunderman: 15:32 < lvh> Thunderman: or sudo [command], but sudo is probably not configured on your system |
| 13:32.54 | SpeedyG | but from the router itself doesnt |
| 13:32.54 | lvh | Thunderman: read after the comma ;-) |
| 13:32.55 | Thunderman | ok |
| 13:33.02 | lvh | Thunderman: so use su - |
| 13:33.17 | lvh | SpeedyG: the inside boxes use what dns? |
| 13:33.25 | lvh | SpeedyG: the router? or some external box? |
| 13:33.31 | lvh | SpeedyG: is the router running bind or something? |
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| 13:33.47 | SpeedyG | nope, no bind on the router |
| 13:34.15 | Thunderman | "unknown id: apt-get" |
| 13:34.24 | lvh | SpeedyG: so your dns is some external box? |
| 13:34.26 | lvh | Thunderman: errr? |
| 13:34.27 | SpeedyG | yeah |
| 13:34.29 | lvh | Thunderman: I said su - |
| 13:34.33 | lvh | Thunderman: not su apt-get |
| 13:34.45 | IneedGCCinstalla | speedyg: oh speedy I wasn't tyring ot insult you >.< |
| 13:35.03 | SpeedyG | weird thing is, my server uses the router as dns (at least, thats in resolv.conf) and euhm.... weird this :/ |
| 13:35.07 | SpeedyG | IneedGCCinstalla: you didnt :) |
| 13:35.13 | IneedGCCinstalla | kool |
| 13:35.15 | IneedGCCinstalla | ^_^ |
| 13:35.17 | lvh | SpeedyG: hoho wait |
| 13:35.35 | lvh | SpeedyG: your server uses your router as dns but your router isnt running named or similar? |
| 13:35.37 | Thunderman | I'm so noob |
| 13:35.49 | lvh | Thunderman: "su -" |
| 13:36.02 | lvh | Thunderman: not su IWANTROOT, or su LISTENTOME - |
| 13:36.05 | lvh | Thunderman: just su - |
| 13:36.30 | SpeedyG | oh wait, it runs named |
| 13:36.30 | SpeedyG | :/ |
| 13:36.35 | lvh | SpeedyG: haha. |
| 13:36.36 | SpeedyG | I did a |grep bind |
| 13:36.39 | SpeedyG | not a |grep named |
| 13:36.44 | SpeedyG | so the router runs named |
| 13:36.47 | lvh | SpeedyG: yeah common mistake |
| 13:36.49 | SpeedyG | through bind |
| 13:37.01 | lvh | SpeedyG: on the router, cat /etc/resolv.conf and pastebin it for me |
| 13:37.07 | lvh | SpeedyG: unless its a oneliner |
| 13:37.28 | Thunderman | is there also commans for legacy drivers in debiab wiki? |
| 13:37.34 | SpeedyG | it has search speedux.lan, and the two external dns servers |
| 13:37.38 | lvh | Thunderman: yes. |
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| 13:37.43 | SpeedyG | (where speedux.lan is the lan dns thingy) |
| 13:38.25 | lvh | SpeedyG: leave the search, remove the external dns'en (comment them out to be sure) |
| 13:38.35 | lvh | SpeedyG: add nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
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| 13:38.48 | lvh | SpeedyG: on the default bind9 install this will make localhost resolve, and make bind figure it out |
| 13:38.54 | SpeedyG | that seems to work better indeed :) |
| 13:38.59 | lvh | SpeedyG: for more information, check out http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/DNS_-_Bind9 |
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| 13:39.43 | lvh | SpeedyG: no problem. |
| 13:40.05 | SpeedyG | woohoo :) thanks lvh |
| 13:40.07 | lvh | SpeedyG: if it makes you feel any better, helping people fix problems is easier if they have a brain ;-) |
| 13:40.20 | SpeedyG | hehe, true that :) |
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| 13:40.55 | lvh | SpeedyG: i also like djbdns, but djb isn't very liked around here ;-) |
| 13:41.08 | SpeedyG | hehe, well, i'm happy this works :p |
| 13:41.09 | Thunderman | I''m root now but the commands dont' work |
| 13:41.11 | lvh | SpeedyG: djb also hates bind with a passion |
| 13:41.24 | defbyte | hi, i know this in not related to this channel, but does someone know where i can get the google sattelite images where i can zoom in to see cars ? |
| 13:41.32 | SpeedyG | Thunderman: what kind of commands are you trying ? |
| 13:42.00 | lvh | defbyte: google for google streets, iirc |
| 13:42.01 | SpeedyG | defbyte: it depends.. not all locations are covered by google yet |
| 13:42.03 | Thunderman | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#head-8268a723b3e5205d6b2e35444ab6895bab3f072c |
| 13:42.03 | Thunderman | All commands :/ |
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| 13:42.21 | lvh | defbyte: or not |
| 13:42.26 | defbyte | SpeedyG: but on which domain? |
| 13:42.41 | SpeedyG | defbyte: I could just find them on maps.google.com itself |
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| 13:42.47 | lvh | Thunderman: what youre telling me is: "doctor, it hurts. I dont know when it started, how it happened, or what's hurting, but it hurts." |
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| 13:43.04 | lvh | Thunderman: pastebin please, so i can see whats not working |
| 13:43.08 | lvh | Thunderman: www.pastebin.com |
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| 13:43.25 | Thunderman | But the language is Finnish, i think you can't understand it |
| 13:43.25 | lvh | defbyte: SpeedyG is correct |
| 13:43.30 | defbyte | SpeedyG: but i get only streets ... no buildings, cars,... i want sattelite images |
| 13:43.37 | lvh | Thunderman: suomi ftw |
| 13:43.50 | lvh | Thunderman: im not finnish but im smart enough to see a wrong command |
| 13:44.02 | defbyte | man i'm stupid... |
| 13:44.24 | defbyte | but ty |
| 13:44.34 | Eulex | Thunderman, 'LANG=C command' to make the output of a command to be in english |
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| 13:44.35 | SpeedyG | defbyte: wrong button? :) |
| 13:44.42 | Thunderman | So i just paste everythink in terminal to that box in www.pastebin.com? |
| 13:45.00 | SpeedyG | yes |
| 13:45.00 | lvh | Thunderman: yes. |
| 13:45.11 | lvh | Thunderman: export LANG=C also, please |
| 13:45.13 | SpeedyG | or rather pastebin.ca , because .com is slow :P |
| 13:45.17 | lvh | indeed |
| 13:45.39 | Thunderman | Who gets that? :D |
| 13:46.28 | SpeedyG | defbyte: http://speedyg.selwerd.nl/~speedyg/google/cars.png <= I can see cars in front of my flat :p |
| 13:46.31 | lvh | Thunderman: paste the link you get. |
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| 13:47.28 | SpeedyG | lvh: http://pastebin.com/d316d5f40 <= that must be it ;) |
| 13:47.51 | Thunderman | yep |
| 13:48.23 | Thunderman | But it's finnish :/ |
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| 13:49.08 | lvh | Thunderman: you are not doing what im telling you to do |
| 13:49.10 | SpeedyG | Thunderman: it says it cant find the package right? |
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| 13:49.27 | lvh | Thunderman: also |
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| 13:49.29 | lvh | Thunderman: grep -q ^nvidia /etc/modules || echo nvidia >> /etc/modules |
| 13:49.32 | Thunderman | yes |
| 13:49.40 | lvh | Thunderman: This command probably worked. |
| 13:50.23 | SpeedyG | and given the fact that apt-get moo does exactly what it should do... the commands work ;) |
| 13:50.29 | Thunderman | nothing happend |
| 13:50.44 | lvh | Thunderman: plenty happened |
| 13:50.50 | Thunderman | when i typed "grep -q ^nvidia /etc/modules || echo nvidia >> /etc/modules" |
| 13:50.51 | lvh | Thunderman: nothing was put on STDOUT |
| 13:50.56 | lvh | Thunderman: plenty happened. |
| 13:51.10 | lvh | Thunderman: you can't see black holes therefore black holes don't exist? ;-) |
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| 13:51.44 | lvh | Thunderman: apt-get install module-assistant gcc nvidia-kernel-common |
| 13:52.19 | lvh | Thunderman: if that doesn't work, you don't have non-free/contrib sources |
| 13:52.19 | gypsymauro | hi, there is a textual tool to see where are the files that uses more space on a disk? |
| 13:52.21 | Thunderman | packet nvidia-kernel-common not found |
| 13:52.41 | lvh | Thunderman: okay, open your favourite editor and edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:53.18 | swordlaw | how can I install unsigned software with apt? when i try to it tells me to write "Si" (yes) to continue, but it won't let me.....it reminds me of windows..^_^ |
| 13:53.19 | SpeedyG | lol abrotman :) |
| 13:53.50 | wols_ | Thunderman: what debian branch? |
| 13:54.18 | Thunderman | ? |
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| 13:54.35 | lvh | swordlaw: pastebin the error please |
| 13:54.42 | Thunderman | normal Debian |
| 13:54.51 | Thunderman | 4.0 |
| 13:54.58 | swordlaw | lol......do you speak spanish? because it is in spanish |
| 13:55.20 | ampex | lvh: I don't believe that black holes exist |
| 13:55.20 | Thunderman | how i need to edit that list |
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| 13:55.45 | lvh | swordlaw: do you want to be helped or not? |
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| 13:56.15 | swordlaw | ok....i just warned u..thats all ^_^ |
| 13:56.21 | lvh | I know most apt-get error messages by hard, I can probably take a pretty good guess |
| 13:56.41 | lvh | and if I can't figure it out theres always export LANG=C |
| 13:56.53 | Thunderman | I have opened /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:57.18 | lvh | Thunderman: pastebin |
| 13:57.21 | swordlaw | http://rafb.net/p/tWofgi58.html |
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| 13:58.03 | Thunderman | http://pastebin.com/m189784fe |
| 13:58.33 | lvh | swordlaw: what is the exact command you entered |
| 13:58.44 | lvh | swordlaw: give me that and I'll give you a version that works |
| 13:59.21 | swordlaw | lol...ok.......aptitude install virtualbox...that's all |
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| 13:59.49 | lvh | swordlaw: aptitude -y install virtualbox |
| 14:00.03 | fsdsa | lvh maybe i am wrong but do i need a crossover from serve rot windows? |
| 14:00.06 | fsdsa | maybe tat the problem.. |
| 14:00.13 | lvh | fsdsa: hang on |
| 14:00.17 | fsdsa | rj45 cross over |
| 14:00.19 | fsdsa | lvh: ok |
| 14:00.23 | lindenl1 | can duplicity keep its full backup on one disk and incrementals on another? |
| 14:00.37 | lvh | fsdsa: there is no switch between your windows box and your test firewall? |
| 14:00.39 | swordlaw | lvh: nah.....the same |
| 14:00.49 | fsdsa | lvh;no switch |
| 14:00.59 | Thunderman | Does I have wrong adress? |
| 14:01.02 | lvh | swordlaw: LANG=C apt-get -y install virtualbox |
| 14:01.12 | lvh | fsdsa: of course you do -.- |
| 14:01.14 | lvh | fsdsa: well |
| 14:01.22 | lvh | fsdsa: not if you had a decent ethernet card |
| 14:01.30 | fsdsa | well it a normnal nic card |
| 14:01.32 | lvh | fsdsa: but statistically speaking yours is most likely a piece of junk |
| 14:01.33 | fsdsa | and no switch or router |
| 14:01.39 | fsdsa | so i need a crossover rj45?... |
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| 14:01.42 | lvh | fsdsa: yes. aka "piece of junk" |
| 14:01.46 | fsdsa | lvh: HAHAHAH |
| 14:01.49 | fsdsa | lvh: i found my porblem -_- |
| 14:01.53 | lvh | fsdsa: you need a crossed over cable |
| 14:01.59 | fsdsa | lvh: hahahaha |
| 14:02.02 | lvh | fsdsa: i wouldnt cross the rj45 plug, thats a bad idea. |
| 14:02.14 | fsdsa | lvh: it just experiemental server xD |
| 14:02.29 | fsdsa | lvh: well ithink the problem tat we tried to solve this morning is now fixed |
| 14:02.32 | fsdsa | lvh: stupid me |
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| 14:02.41 | lvh | note to self |
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| 14:03.18 | lvh | when in doubt, assume the person you are helping has no clue whatsoever what a network layer model is, and assume he has not checked the layers below what you're trying to fix. |
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| 14:03.24 | swordlaw | http://rafb.net/p/aSbsoP78 |
| 14:03.28 | lvh | In other words: always start with "is it plugged in?" |
| 14:03.52 | lvh | swordlaw: The requested document was not found on this server. |
| 14:04.12 | earthian | hello, i have started received mails from my cron that a PERL script that previously was OK is not doing error things... is it possible to somehow reboot the perl infrastructure without rebooting the server itself? :S |
| 14:04.27 | earthian | is not = is now |
| 14:04.28 | lvh | the perl infrastructure? |
| 14:04.36 | lvh | perl is an interpreter |
| 14:04.37 | earthian | lvh, if that exists :x |
| 14:04.41 | lvh | it runs for as long as your script runs |
| 14:04.52 | swordlaw | http://rafb.net/p/GjEu4N77.html |
| 14:04.55 | earthian | then wtf my script started outputting errors? |
| 14:04.56 | lvh | you can kill all existing perl processes, if you like |
| 14:05.04 | earthian | about some unitialized variables... |
| 14:05.08 | earthian | it was all ok previously |
| 14:05.16 | lvh | swordlaw: my bad |
| 14:05.18 | earthian | lvh, good idea :) |
| 14:05.21 | earthian | thanks |
| 14:05.26 | Thunderman | http://pastebin.com/m189784fe sources.list |
| 14:05.35 | lvh | swordlaw: sudo apt-get --force-yes install somepackage |
| 14:05.43 | lvh | swordlaw: replace somepcakage with whatever you'r einstlaling |
| 14:05.54 | lvh | Thunderman: hang on, helping five ppl at the same time |
| 14:05.59 | Thunderman | :) |
| 14:06.00 | lvh | earthian: for the love of god dont do it manually ;-) |
| 14:06.02 | swordlaw | lol... |
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| 14:06.29 | lvh | earthian: also make sure that none of those processes are marked as "D" or "Z" when you ps ax them |
| 14:06.45 | lvh | earthian: ps ax, grep and xargs are your FRIENDS! |
| 14:06.55 | earthian | yea yea |
| 14:07.13 | earthian | i have noticed that something was using perl that is useless there so i stopped it from /etc/init.d |
| 14:07.13 | earthian | :) |
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| 14:07.32 | lvh | earthian: ok |
| 14:07.34 | swordlaw | lvh: Great dude!! i dun understand why, but it worked ^_^ |
| 14:07.38 | lvh | earthian: tell me if it isnt working |
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| 14:07.41 | lvh | swordlaw: bug. |
| 14:07.42 | swordlaw | thanks |
| 14:07.48 | earthian | ok thanks! |
| 14:07.49 | lvh | swordlaw: basically i think its a bug in the spanish trasnlation |
| 14:08.06 | IneedGCCinstalla | ^_^ |
| 14:08.10 | lvh | swordlaw: it asks for Si and expects Y, y, ye, Ye, YE, YES, Yes, etc |
| 14:08.18 | lvh | Thunderman: 16:07 < swordlaw> lvh: Great dude!! i dun understand why, but it worked ^_^ |
| 14:08.21 | lvh | oops. |
| 14:08.27 | lvh | Thunderman: http://pastebin.com/m70d4ad6d |
| 14:08.32 | lvh | Thunderman: I highlighted the line i changed |
| 14:08.41 | swordlaw | oh, I see.....what should i do to permanently correct it? |
| 14:08.49 | lvh | swordlaw: learn english |
| 14:08.52 | lvh | swordlaw: ;-) |
| 14:08.52 | swordlaw | lol |
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| 14:09.11 | mosty | is it possible to start iceweasel so that it doesn't offer to restore the last session if it was killed? |
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| 14:09.26 | lvh | mosty: if you find it please tell me, i've been looking for that for a while as well |
| 14:09.28 | fasta | Is there a way to get persistent history in bash? |
| 14:09.32 | lvh | mosty: its a frigging nightmare |
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| 14:09.41 | lvh | fasta: persisent through users? |
| 14:09.45 | fasta | I.e. the history is remembered between reboots? |
| 14:09.54 | mosty | lvh: ok, i guess i need to find a different browser for kiosk mode then |
| 14:09.55 | lvh | fasta: heh, that already happens for me :) |
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| 14:10.08 | lvh | mosty: nah, i havent looked particularly hard either |
| 14:10.13 | Thunderman | it says that i don't have a rights to save "new" list |
| 14:10.22 | lvh | Thunderman: as root, of course. |
| 14:10.24 | fasta | lvh: it happens for me too as one user |
| 14:10.38 | fasta | lvh: but not as some other user, so clearly it's possible |
| 14:10.45 | Thunderman | should i log off and then log in? |
| 14:10.50 | lvh | fasta: ~/.bashrc |
| 14:10.51 | fsdsa | lvh: how do you delete the old eth1 when you replace anew NIC card.. because i add a new NIC card remove the old one, and now it become eth2 |
| 14:11.11 | lvh | fsdsa: you can rename ethernet cards if thats what you want |
| 14:11.18 | fsdsa | yeah :_ |
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| 14:11.27 | lvh | fsdsa: you can also rmmod the network drivers, assuming they're not the same |
| 14:11.32 | fasta | lvh: yes, and what option is it then? |
| 14:11.37 | lvh | e1000 ftw. wouldnt use anything else |
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| 14:12.08 | lvh | fasta: copy the bashrc from the user where it works to the user where it doesnt ;-) |
| 14:12.20 | lvh | fsdsa: apt-cache showpkg ifrename |
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| 14:13.40 | fasta | lvh: that's not an option, but I will copy most of it, and hope for the best |
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| 14:14.57 | Thunderman | lvh: how can i save the list? |
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| 14:15.29 | lvh | Thunderman: do what you did before but as root |
| 14:15.33 | lvh | Thunderman: depends on your editor |
| 14:15.40 | lvh | Thunderman: i have no clue which one |
| 14:15.46 | earthian | lvh, how to make cron execute all the tasks now as in right now? |
| 14:15.47 | earthian | :) |
| 14:15.57 | Thunderman | how could i be root :) |
| 14:16.02 | lvh | Thunderman: and if it isn't vi(m) I probably couldnt tell you |
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| 14:16.28 | lvh | earthian: manually? |
| 14:16.28 | Thunderman | Problem is that how to be root :/ |
| 14:16.34 | lvh | Thunderman: su - |
| 14:16.45 | lvh | Thunderman: unless you're already root ("whoami") |
| 14:16.48 | earthian | lvh, yes |
| 14:16.56 | lvh | earthian: sorry for the delay, Thunderman needs to be spoonfed more than you do |
| 14:17.02 | Thunderman | where i it says I'm root |
| 14:17.03 | lvh | earthian: where's your crontab |
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| 14:17.05 | earthian | lvh, np :) |
| 14:17.10 | lvh | Thunderman: then you're golden, go edit the file |
| 14:17.10 | wykis | Hello, I am having trouble with locales. I set the locales with dpkg-reconfigure. As this machine is remote, I have to SSH to it. When I SSH to it, execute 'locale', I get "POSIX" as everything. I then change to root (with su), do 'locale' and it gives UTF-8 ones and I can type UTF-8 characters there. Can someone explain to me what to do to solve this? I want UTF-8 for my normal user's terminal. |
| 14:17.22 | earthian | lvh, somewhere under the /var/... |
| 14:17.28 | Thunderman | *it says i'm root |
| 14:17.35 | Thunderman | I made a mistake :/ |
| 14:17.37 | lvh | earthian: /var/spool/cron/crontabs is default |
| 14:17.41 | earthian | yes yes |
| 14:17.44 | lvh | earthian: just execute that command manually |
| 14:17.48 | lvh | earthian: never mind cron |
| 14:17.50 | earthian | phm |
| 14:17.51 | earthian | ohm |
| 14:17.52 | earthian | right |
| 14:17.54 | earthian | :) |
| 14:17.57 | lvh | earthian: you can pretend you're cron ofc |
| 14:18.11 | lvh | earthian: sudo -u [user|uid] is your friend |
| 14:18.19 | earthian | :p |
| 14:18.24 | lvh | earthian: that way you can execute as the user cron would have executed it |
| 14:18.29 | Thunderman | o_O, "sources.list [only read]" |
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| 14:18.31 | earthian | yes |
| 14:18.33 | earthian | thanks :) |
| 14:18.36 | lvh | Thunderman: as root? |
| 14:18.43 | lvh | Thunderman: what editor |
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| 14:18.50 | earthian | Thunderman, use nano |
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| 14:18.54 | Thunderman | gedit |
| 14:18.54 | earthian | as an editor.. |
| 14:19.02 | lvh | Thunderman: oh god. |
| 14:19.06 | lvh | I think he's root in a term somewhere |
| 14:19.10 | lvh | and then opened gedit |
| 14:19.14 | sparrw | can anyone point me to a newb-friendly way to get grub/lilo working on a mac mini's EFI? |
| 14:19.15 | lvh | so he's now editing that file as user |
| 14:19.35 | lvh | no idea, sparrw i stick to big iron |
| 14:20.01 | earthian | sparrw, google might be your friend if you know the right keywords :) |
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| 14:20.31 | lvh | lvh@marvin:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | grep -v model | wc -l |
| 14:20.32 | lvh | 8 |
| 14:20.45 | lindenl1 | anyone know how to move knotes to a new system/ |
| 14:20.54 | lvh | lindenl1: dotfies |
| 14:20.58 | lvh | lindenl1: dotfiles even |
| 14:21.01 | earthian | Thunderman, if you want to edit your sources.list file in GUI, you have to execute gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:21.14 | lvh | lindenl1: it's probably under .kde/ somewhere, but I don't use kde so i can't tell you where it is exactly |
| 14:21.17 | lindenl1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.21 | lvh | lindenl1: snop around in that dir |
| 14:21.24 | lindenl1 | or even moved |
| 14:21.28 | lvh | lindenl1: i dont think it stores data there |
| 14:21.45 | lindenl1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:21.57 | lvh | lindenl1: okay |
| 14:22.02 | lvh | lindenl1: strange |
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| 14:24.04 | SpeedyG | lol |
| 14:24.27 | earthian | :) |
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| 14:25.15 | Thunderman | I don't know how to use nano :( |
| 14:25.24 | Eulex | nano filename |
| 14:25.55 | SpeedyG | and after editing ctrl-X to exit |
| 14:25.57 | SpeedyG | (and save |
| 14:26.05 | Eulex | then the most important commands are detailed at the bottom of the screen. (for example, ^X means ctrl-x) |
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| 14:26.24 | lindenl1 | ok I got it now |
| 14:26.29 | Thunderman | ok |
| 14:28.56 | Thunderman | sourc-list -> open with nan |
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| 14:29.02 | Thunderman | *nano |
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| 14:29.43 | semprix | Thunderman, use ee or vim |
| 14:29.46 | mosty | lvh: if you delete sessionrestore.js from the profile directory, then start iceweasel, it doesn't offer to restore the session |
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| 14:31.53 | sid | What is a good software for a few companies to all collaborate on documentation/instructions for their product. |
| 14:32.09 | sid | not a wiki, they are not good at this |
| 14:32.14 | abrotman | cvs? |
| 14:32.23 | sid | something the average person can use |
| 14:32.26 | Thunderman | I can't save it with nano :/ |
| 14:32.42 | abrotman | sid: there's a collaborative editor |
| 14:32.43 | Eulex | Thunderman, why? |
| 14:32.46 | SpeedyG | Thunderman: why not? what does it say ? |
| 14:32.47 | abrotman | !info gabby |
| 14:32.51 | Eulex | *gobby |
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| 14:32.55 | abrotman | ah .. that's it! |
| 14:32.56 | sid | And cvs sucks, if for whatever weird reason we wanted that, we'd go with mercurial or even git before cvs. |
| 14:32.57 | abrotman | !info gobby |
| 14:32.59 | dpkg | gobby: (collaborative text editor), section net, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 527 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB |
| 14:33.03 | Thunderman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.04 | sid | gobby, interesting |
| 14:33.06 | sid | ok, thanks |
| 14:33.07 | abrotman | sid: fine .. use whatever fucking VCS you want |
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| 14:33.14 | abrotman | it was just an example |
| 14:33.19 | Eulex | sid, there's also google docs, which can be used collaboratively |
| 14:33.27 | SpeedyG | ok, what does the Lupa evatty mean ? :) |
| 14:33.49 | sid | yea, but google docs won't let me use files larger than 500kb |
| 14:33.54 | sid | and we have instructions with pictures etc |
| 14:34.03 | abrotman | OO ? |
| 14:34.14 | sid | OO can do what I want? |
| 14:34.19 | sid | A plugin or something I don't know about? |
| 14:34.25 | abrotman | OO has revision history |
| 14:34.28 | Eulex | sid, gobby will only do text |
| 14:34.36 | sid | o, well that sucks |
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| 14:34.40 | sid | gobby doesn't support ODF? |
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| 14:34.49 | abrotman | needy little sid |
| 14:35.01 | Thunderman | permission refused or something like that |
| 14:35.05 | Eulex | gobby is a pure collaborative _text_ editor, not a collaborative word processor. |
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| 14:35.06 | abrotman | sid: you could directly edit SGML or something .. then generate all kinds of docs from that |
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| 14:35.25 | Eulex | Thunderman, become root, in some way or another, then try again. |
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| 14:37.12 | dimir | Thunderman: are you haxoring your school sewer? :-P |
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| 14:40.20 | barbie | hi, i m shamail! one of the moderator of JMI GNU/Linux User Group. We are on a project to make an OS of our own! For that reason we peolpe are tryin many distros. This month in Linux4U magzine i got full debian. I found it really worth for our needs. So we have decided to make it as the base distro. Now at our campus we have a wired tree type network mainly on switches and wireless network on netgear routers. Our plan is to make a CD version and then set |
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| 14:40.41 | barbie | how many systems these comp can simultaneously serve |
| 14:40.55 | azeem | barbie: your first line got cut off at "and then set[...]" |
| 14:41.16 | barbie | up a repo on some system for additional packages so as to save the bandwidth. What available to us is a system with AMD 3000+, 64 bit with 512 MB RAM. and a same sys with intel single core 3.2 GHz. They both will be simultaneously up for the apt repo. I have some questions regarding this.... |
| 14:42.08 | solemnwarning | I've got gcc,gcc-4.1-doc and gcc-doc-base installed, I have no gcc manual page |
| 14:42.11 | solemnwarning | wtf is going on? |
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| 14:42.47 | barbie | how many systems these comp can simultaneously serve? |
| 14:43.06 | abrotman | barbie: how many are you planning to serve to ? |
| 14:43.27 | unilynx | Any suggestions on the more popular music programs used for gnome? |
| 14:43.34 | abrotman | solemnwarning: info gcc ? |
| 14:43.34 | barbie | as far as we r concerned.... 500 will be max |
| 14:43.42 | abrotman | unilynx: quod libet .. rythmbox |
| 14:43.44 | lvh|shower | barbie: IO? |
| 14:43.46 | solemnwarning | Hmm, wierd |
| 14:43.51 | solemnwarning | Manpage just appeared |
| 14:43.58 | barbie | but simultaneous access to repo should not exceed 50 |
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| 14:44.17 | lvh|shower | barbie: haha. |
| 14:44.19 | barbie | also the network support a max of 1MBPS |
| 14:44.23 | lvh|shower | barbie: thats not a stresstest |
| 14:44.30 | barbie | why? |
| 14:44.38 | lvh|shower | barbie: your bottlenecks are nowhere near the limitations of your repo servers |
| 14:44.47 | lvh|shower | as in, not in the same order of magnitude |
| 14:44.52 | SpeedyG | the limit is at the network, not the machine :) |
| 14:44.58 | barbie | i don got that? |
| 14:45.00 | barbie | !!! |
| 14:45.00 | dpkg | I'm not your fucking csh prompt. |
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| 14:45.15 | lvh|shower | therefor, any discrepancy between the two boxen is experimental error |
| 14:45.47 | lvh | both pc's can easily saturate that pathetic 1MB link |
| 14:45.51 | barbie | SpeedyG: so how many do u think a switch based network (1MBPS) can take |
| 14:45.51 | lvh | 1Mb even |
| 14:46.07 | solemnwarning | 1Mb SWITCHED network?! |
| 14:46.12 | lvh | barbie: many, but none of them will go very quickly |
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| 14:46.30 | barbie | ok |
| 14:46.30 | lvh | is this like a very poor quality token ring network? |
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| 14:46.39 | lvh | IP over RS232? |
| 14:46.45 | barbie | then next, from where to begin... |
| 14:46.49 | solemnwarning | IPv6 over morse code? |
| 14:46.50 | SpeedyG | barbie: is it a 1MegaByte, or 1Megabit network ? |
| 14:46.59 | barbie | 1mega byte |
| 14:47.03 | lvh | wtf |
| 14:47.05 | solemnwarning | 1MB is still crap |
| 14:47.08 | solemnwarning | Only 8Mb |
| 14:47.24 | lvh | who the hell measures pipe bandwidth in bytes? |
| 14:47.33 | barbie | ha ha! |
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| 14:47.44 | SpeedyG | lvh: users ;) |
| 14:47.47 | lvh | haha |
| 14:47.49 | barbie | actually the rated network is 10megabits ps |
| 14:47.57 | lvh | thats still junk |
| 14:47.58 | daqqal | hey guys, can anyone check and see if you can get to http://cdctrac.fortresssolutions.com |
| 14:48.05 | lvh | and still well within the limits of both pc's |
| 14:48.06 | barbie | but the dwload speed from net is around 1MBPS |
| 14:48.09 | solemnwarning | 10/100 switches have been cheap for EONS |
| 14:48.16 | barbie | and so from the local machines |
| 14:48.19 | solemnwarning | Even gigabit isn't too expensive |
| 14:48.20 | lvh | the thing is barbie |
| 14:48.25 | barbie | ? |
| 14:48.31 | lvh | you're trying to test wether the intel or the amd box is better |
| 14:48.32 | lvh | however |
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| 14:48.35 | SpeedyG | i've got GBit here, and the limitation now is the hardware :) |
| 14:48.41 | lvh | the bottlenecks you will hit, in order, are netowkr and io |
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| 14:48.47 | SpeedyG | (the disks/Mainboard) |
| 14:48.49 | barbie | no both will be up simultaneously |
| 14:49.00 | lvh | at 10Mb, both pc's will be outperforming the network by far. |
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| 14:49.04 | lvh | at 100Mb, same deal. |
| 14:49.14 | barbie | ok |
| 14:49.16 | lvh | at 1Gb, you will be testing the disk io, not the network |
| 14:49.19 | lvh | sorry |
| 14:49.21 | lvh | not the boxen |
| 14:49.43 | barbie | but we r not on that high end network |
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| 14:49.55 | lvh | neither factor is significantly affected by it being an intel or an amd box |
| 14:49.55 | barbie | so .... from where to start |
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| 14:50.17 | lvh | barbie: your test is useless. If you are on a 10Mbit network, you will simply be saturating that link |
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| 14:50.33 | barbie | ok |
| 14:50.47 | lvh | any discrepancy in results can be attributed to experimental error, or a switch that likes one port more than the other if both are flooded. |
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| 14:51.06 | barbie | lvh: from where to go... |
| 14:51.17 | barbie | i mean we r a team of 20 students |
| 14:51.18 | SpeedyG | upgrade the network, or test the boxes differently |
| 14:51.21 | lvh | barbie: what do you want to test? |
| 14:51.30 | lvh | barbie: what meaningful statistic do you want to end up with |
| 14:51.36 | lvh | barbie: which is faster? |
| 14:51.43 | barbie | how much time will it take to complete a distro? |
| 14:51.57 | solemnwarning | "complete a distro"? |
| 14:52.00 | barbie | yes actually |
| 14:52.01 | lvh | barbie: well, in that case, you will simply be saturating your network link |
| 14:52.05 | solemnwarning | You mean bootstrap a system? |
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| 14:52.10 | lvh | solemnwarning: probably |
| 14:52.19 | barbie | but i suppose i should put them both |
| 14:52.39 | barbie | na |
| 14:52.41 | Nexus | I'm trying to get fail2ban to send me email alerts when it blocks someone, but it just doesn't send. Anyone have this working that could copy their config to me? |
| 14:52.52 | unilynx | I'm having trouble copying a ISO over to a usb stick. There is plenty of room for it to fit, it's exactly 4.5gb. But it seems to only be copying 4.0gb. Any suggestions? |
| 14:52.53 | barbie | i mean, we'll be using deb as our base distro |
| 14:52.54 | lvh | unless the apt repository is stored on 5+1/4" floppies, your network will be the bottleneck |
| 14:53.22 | wols_ | unilynx: what format on the usb stick? |
| 14:53.37 | unilynx | it's fat |
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| 14:53.45 | unilynx | is that why? |
| 14:53.48 | DGnome | unilynx: you've got fat filesystem on the stick, fat can only handle 4GB maximum filesize |
| 14:53.51 | wsdo_okadr | how do i tar.gz a directory ? |
| 14:53.55 | unilynx | oh |
| 14:53.55 | SpeedyG | fat doesnt support bigger than 4GB |
| 14:54.05 | lvh | unilynx: indeed |
| 14:54.06 | unilynx | okay that makes sense then. thanks |
| 14:54.23 | lvh | unilynx: fat32 also supports very big filesystems, unless if you format it under windows for some strange reason |
| 14:55.05 | krazykit | unilynx, one option is to use "split" to split up the files then "cat" to put them back together. or make a split zip file or something |
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| 14:55.47 | unilynx | thanks for the idea, i think ill try that out if i dont end up converting it since i already have a ton of stuff on it |
| 14:55.50 | lvh | unilynx: you want to read this on windows boxen? |
| 14:56.07 | lvh | unilynx: mkfs.ext2 tbh. |
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| 14:57.00 | wsdo_okadr | ok |
| 14:57.02 | wsdo_okadr | i give up |
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| 14:57.08 | wsdo_okadr | how do i tar.gz a directory ? |
| 14:57.21 | abrotman | man tar |
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| 14:57.24 | wsdo_okadr | I've tried tar --add-file=directory/* --compress --recursion |
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| 14:57.44 | asg | wsdo_okadr: tar czf file.tgz /path/to/dir |
| 14:58.19 | Eulex | wsdo_okadr, look at the examples near the top of tar. |
| 14:58.23 | lvh | wsdo_okadr: listen to asg |
| 14:58.34 | lvh | asg++ |
| 14:58.39 | wsdo_okadr | asg: :) |
| 14:58.42 | lvh | dpkg: karma asg |
| 14:58.43 | dpkg | asg has karma of 13 |
| 14:58.44 | Eulex | *top of man tar |
| 14:58.48 | lvh | dpkg: karma lvh |
| 14:58.48 | dpkg | lvh has neutral karma |
| 14:58.52 | lvh | it's not fair i tell you |
| 14:58.53 | lvh | :( |
| 14:59.05 | lvh | karma blows |
| 14:59.08 | asg | wsdo_okadr: also, /msg dpkg tar (for lots of other examples) |
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| 14:59.32 | asg | lvh: karma was disabled for 3 or 4 years when I was really active in here. I only have 13 and should have much more ;) |
| 14:59.55 | abrotman | :karma abrotman |
| 14:59.59 | abrotman | !karma abrotman |
| 14:59.59 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 32 |
| 15:00.04 | abrotman | asg: what's my excuse? :) |
| 15:00.20 | asg | abrotman: I was talking about before you were in here |
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| 15:00.47 | abrotman | asg: there was no intarweb! |
| 15:01.01 | asg | abrotman: irc runs just fine over a 2400 baud modem :p |
| 15:01.08 | abrotman | sad isn't it ... |
| 15:01.20 | abrotman | the internet was better before they let everyone on it! |
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| 15:05.26 | lvh | haha |
| 15:05.32 | lvh | ./connect localhost |
| 15:05.33 | lvh | ;-) |
| 15:06.00 | azeem | lvh: what are you talking about? |
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| 15:06.51 | wols_ | azeem: bitlbee |
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| 15:08.20 | SpeedyG | it'llbee, bitlbee :D |
| 15:08.39 | lvh | 17:01 < abrotman> the internet was better before they let everyone on it! |
| 15:08.49 | lvh | very few people are on my own interweb |
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| 15:13.11 | Dantix | hi all, I have a couple of server running HA and mirroring hard disk using drbd. Now one of the hd is giving me several errors in messages log. I know if I change the failing hd and start drbd it itself will take care of recontruct the data over the blank new hd, but it will take a lot of time with the server out of line. Question: are there a way to get up the new hard disk working much faster, for example duplicating it with dd or something like that? |
| 15:14.12 | fsdsa | lvh: do you knwo well iptables i have trouble to forward my packet outside the network |
| 15:14.49 | xushi | argh.. how do i add a gateway in debian? is it in network/interfaces ? |
| 15:15.01 | xushi | what's the syntax? because gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx doesn't work |
| 15:15.29 | petemc | it does |
| 15:15.38 | xushi | hmm, then for some reason i cannot ping anything outside |
| 15:15.46 | xushi | i added the two nameserver lines in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 15:15.56 | lvh | fsdsa: yes, I know iptables well. |
| 15:16.18 | lvh | fsdsa: however, i'm quite sure there howto's on the internet that have been revised over and over again that would explain far better than I woudl. |
| 15:16.47 | sid | What is a simple cli program to compress a jpeg? |
| 15:17.23 | cast | hmm, wth. can someone explain to me why 7z t doesn't work? |
| 15:17.25 | wsdo_okadr | sid: mogrify ? |
| 15:17.28 | techbie | xushi: man interfaces and man route will help you |
| 15:17.31 | cast | sid: convert, in imagemagick? |
| 15:17.37 | xushi | techbie : i already did |
| 15:17.40 | xushi | i can't figure it out |
| 15:17.42 | xushi | it looks perfect |
| 15:17.47 | petemc | techbie: he has the syntax ok |
| 15:17.55 | fsdsa | lvh: could you check this code what i did wrong,i cannot ping 10.10.0.2 to google it blockl at eth2, |
| 15:17.55 | petemc | techbie: can you ping the gateway? |
| 15:17.59 | xushi | i even rebooted with no results |
| 15:18.01 | petemc | gah |
| 15:18.08 | petemc | xushi: can you ping the gateway? |
| 15:18.31 | xushi | yes i can |
| 15:18.32 | fsdsa | lvh: http://pastebin.com/m4c6ef89c |
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| 15:19.20 | fsdsa | lvh: i have put eveything to ccept right now . just to test stuff |
| 15:19.28 | petemc | xushi: can you "telnet 216.239.59.99 80" |
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| 15:19.58 | xushi | telnet not found.. damn , it's a netinstall with hardyl anything in it |
| 15:20.04 | lvh | fsdsa: why do you append asterisks in some of those lines? |
| 15:20.30 | lvh | fsdsa: anyway, i have no time for this |
| 15:20.30 | xushi | for some reason it cant ping my nameservers |
| 15:20.34 | fsdsa | oh sorry sec.. i putt hr wrong script |
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| 15:20.46 | xushi | can you ping this ? 217.23.32.11 |
| 15:20.58 | petemc | does the netinstall even have ping? |
| 15:21.03 | xushi | i get "connect: Network is unreachable" |
| 15:21.11 | fsdsa | lvh: http://pastebin.com/m458ab6d7 |
| 15:21.15 | fsdsa | here you go |
| 15:21.26 | petemc | xushi: did you, or did you not, ping the gateway machine? |
| 15:21.44 | xushi | petemc: i did, and it worked. I can ping the gateway |
| 15:22.48 | petemc | xushi: "route" , you see a line with the UG flag? |
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| 15:23.14 | xushi | petemc: no, just a U |
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| 15:23.22 | xushi | 217.23.37.32 * 255.255.255.240 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 15:23.31 | petemc | xushi: then you dont have the gateway setup |
| 15:23.38 | petemc | xushi: route add default gw ipaddr |
| 15:23.42 | petemc | replace ipaddr |
| 15:23.46 | xushi | thanks, trying now |
| 15:24.13 | wsdo_okadr | i dont understand why F DOES NOT work in links2 -g |
| 15:24.33 | xushi | petemc: how come it didn't take it from /etc/network/interfaces ? I added it there and restarted using /etc/init.d/networking restarrt |
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| 15:24.47 | petemc | xushi: during the install? |
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| 15:24.55 | xushi | no, just now |
| 15:25.06 | xushi | just before i came panicking in the channel :) |
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| 15:25.23 | petemc | pass, that is the syntax and it does work |
| 15:26.19 | xushi | do i need to reboot the machine too ? |
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| 15:26.27 | petemc | no |
| 15:26.30 | xushi | odd |
| 15:26.32 | NiLon | Hello, I have 4 SCSI drives (10 GB each) and I don't know how (sizes) I should make partitions. It's going to be mostly webserver (PHP, SQL and such). |
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| 15:27.02 | DrusT | hi |
| 15:27.42 | DrusT | is here the place do ask how to know model of a laptop webcam ? |
| 15:28.03 | xushi | NiLon: you could just put all partitions into just 1, or you could make /home the largest, and move the http files into there :) |
| 15:28.08 | wols_ | NiLon: LVM |
| 15:28.23 | wols_ | then you can make a big partition over all of them |
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| 15:29.14 | helo | are freedos utilities in debian's repos? |
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| 15:29.36 | Eulex | helo, search for them? |
| 15:29.45 | helo | aptitude search freedos doesn't return anything |
| 15:30.17 | helo | well... dosemu-freedos |
| 15:30.46 | NiLon | ok, so if I use LVM I just select every partition to use LVM and that's it? |
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| 15:30.59 | Eulex | helo, conclusion being? |
| 15:31.19 | abrotman | helo: what are you actually looking for or trying to do ? |
| 15:31.28 | NiLon | and there's one problem then, sda contains 2 partitions and that first one should _not_ be deleted, it contains files for BIOS and it's not very nice to delete :P |
| 15:31.29 | abrotman | DrusT: lspci or lsusb perhaps ? |
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| 15:32.34 | helo | abrotman: i have a freedos 128MB compact flash card that has some bios flashing utilities... but i have to return it to its owner... i used dd to make a copy of the image and wrote it back out to a different compact flash card, but it won't boot... just says "No operating system found"... so i am going to try to make my own freedos install... |
| 15:33.08 | helo | Eulex: the conclusion is that we are all going to die |
| 15:33.46 | jelly | helo: what did you dd, the whole device or just the partition? If the latter, your error is not surprising (forgot to copy the master boot sector) |
| 15:33.56 | helo | jelly: the whole device... |
| 15:34.21 | jelly | helo: what does file your-image say? |
| 15:34.38 | azeem | W18 |
| 15:34.39 | azeem | oops |
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| 15:34.54 | helo | x86 boot sector |
| 15:35.00 | jelly | good. |
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| 15:35.50 | fsdsa | i cannot ping from 10.10.0.2 to wan. My firewall is on 10.10.0.1 here the configuratio of the iptables: http://pastebin.com/m4ed03235 |
| 15:35.51 | snowbird | what does no IPv6 routers present mean |
| 15:35.53 | helo | it is loading something... enough to say "No operating system found"... |
| 15:36.03 | DrusT | abchirk, lspci return many lines but I don't now wich is the webcam model |
| 15:36.03 | fsdsa | someone got an idea? |
| 15:36.11 | DrusT | know* |
| 15:36.34 | azeem | DrusT: is it a USB webcam? |
| 15:36.47 | DrusT | azeem, I don't think so |
| 15:36.55 | azeem | DrusT: is it internal? |
| 15:37.07 | DrusT | that's a laptop incorporated webcam |
| 15:37.29 | d34dh4ck | maybe it would help if you pastebin'd your lspci |
| 15:37.43 | DrusT | okay I will |
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| 15:39.08 | DrusT | lspci > http://pastebin.com/d2184f21a |
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| 15:40.00 | azeem | I don't think it's in there |
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| 15:40.08 | d34dh4ck | what kind of laptop is it? |
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| 15:40.21 | abrotman | DrusT: update-pciids before you do that |
| 15:40.42 | DrusT | d34dh4ck, asus S96 jm based laptop |
| 15:41.08 | abrotman | DrusT: update-pciids will get rid of those "unknowns" |
| 15:41.13 | d34dh4ck | also get your lsusb...i dont see anything on there that would be a webcam...right off... |
| 15:41.22 | DrusT | abrotman, 've just do it |
| 15:41.22 | abrotman | and likewise .. update-usbids |
| 15:41.32 | abrotman | DrusT: but you have to repaste for us :) |
| 15:41.39 | DrusT | i'm doing it |
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| 15:41.59 | DrusT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.04 | gypsymauro | I've two discs in mirror (raid-1) I want to change them with two bigger, how can achieve this? |
| 15:42.05 | DrusT | so it take some time |
| 15:42.49 | DrusT | lspci > http://pastebin.com/d64f1121e |
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| 15:43.00 | MaximusBrood` | Hello |
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| 15:43.15 | DrusT | hello MaximusBrood` |
| 15:43.25 | abrotman | DrusT: doesn't seem to be a PCI camera |
| 15:43.32 | azeem | DrusT: try lsusb |
| 15:43.35 | abrotman | !whatsmyhardware |
| 15:43.39 | azeem | maybe it's internally connected to USB |
| 15:43.41 | abrotman | !whats my hardware |
| 15:43.42 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
| 15:43.50 | abrotman | azeem: possibly even firewire |
| 15:43.55 | DrusT | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0b05:1712 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. |
| 15:44.03 | azeem | uh |
| 15:44.07 | DrusT | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e1:0501 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd |
| 15:44.12 | DrusT | - end - |
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| 15:44.48 | alfatau | hello,i'm looking at debian reference and debian wiki trying to understand a more advanced way to use debian package management system. i've etch installed. can anyone tell me how works apt.conf.d/* system? the reference writes about an apt.conf configuration file which doesn't exists in my /etc dir. |
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| 15:45.11 | MaximusBrood` | On a remote server, I'm getting the following error: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed!". It gives that error at every command (including shutdown) I can't login to any account except the root account, the ssh connection just stops answering if I try to. I have had this error before, and I could only resolve it by cold-restarting the server. Does this sound |
| 15:45.28 | azeem | alfatau: then create it |
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| 15:45.46 | azeem | DrusT: hrm, http://listing.driveragent.com/usb/0b05/1712?PHPSESSID=d6fe8f0b3330f752e1483d469bce3c9f |
| 15:45.51 | DGnome | gypsymauro: one way is to create the new array alongside the old one and just copy over everything with preservation enabled and then install the bootloader to the new array |
| 15:46.25 | azeem | DrusT: ah, the Syntek one is the webcom |
| 15:46.27 | azeem | webcam* |
| 15:46.29 | DGnome | gypsymauro: try searching for raid migration, that should give you a howto or two |
| 15:46.31 | azeem | DrusT: is this from lsusb? |
| 15:46.50 | DrusT | yes azeem |
| 15:46.55 | azeem | DrusT: http://syntekdriver.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:47.01 | DrusT | webcom module ? |
| 15:47.05 | DrusT | great ! thanks a lot |
| 15:47.30 | azeem | you'll probably have to compile it yourself, dunno |
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| 15:47.44 | unlink | when i run upnpd eth1 eth0 it just quits |
| 15:47.47 | azeem | DrusT: otherwise, did you check dmesg for "yntek" or something |
| 15:47.51 | unlink | and doesn't stick around |
| 15:47.56 | grendal_prime | i keep trying to install gtk-gnutella but i get nothing but a bunch of dependency problems. Is there an etch repo that has that on it? |
| 15:48.23 | azeem | grendal_prime: try backports.org, maybe |
| 15:49.21 | unlink | that might be why i'm having all these problems ... the package is orphaned |
| 15:49.22 | unlink | haha |
| 15:49.24 | DrusT | azeem, dmesg | grep "yntek" return nothing |
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| 15:52.27 | DrusT | damn : command "ctags" not found during syntek driver compilation |
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| 15:52.58 | Eulex | DrusT, apt-get install exuberant-ctags |
| 15:53.23 | DrusT | :) |
| 15:53.23 | Eulex | ? |
| 15:54.10 | shwouchk | how do I get an rt73 based usb wifi card to work? |
| 15:54.28 | grendal_prime | i found one i had on another machine 6.2 version...werid |
| 15:54.32 | grendal_prime | it installs though |
| 15:56.15 | unlink | my upnp daemons start but die within 5 seconds |
| 15:56.37 | alfatau | azeem: ok, but why apt.conf.d/* ? may i add a preference file there? may apt.conf override other preferences? |
| 15:56.59 | powerdan | hi i want to install with the debian etch i386 cd but when the installcd is bototing the system does not do anything after "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd." Has anyone an Idea how to fix this? :( |
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| 15:58.02 | gonzaloaf | hi. is the debian nvidia driver working good? |
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| 15:58.42 | yosef | Hi |
| 15:58.51 | yosef | how can I know my gtk version? |
| 15:59.01 | azeem | dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 | tail -1 |
| 15:59.02 | dpkg | ii libgtk2.0-0 | tail -1 2.8-15 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 15:59.06 | DrusT | where should the kernel module file of a webcam go N |
| 15:59.08 | DrusT | ?* |
| 15:59.10 | Eulex | gonzaloaf, 'debian nvidia driver'? |
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| 16:03.03 | DrusT | syracuse:/usr/src/stk11xx-1.0.0# insmod stk11xx.ko |
| 16:03.03 | DrusT | insmod: error inserting 'stk11xx.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 16:03.22 | gonzaloaf | Eulex, yes, I mean I'm trying to install nvidia driver following the debian way, but I cant find the nvidia-kernel-source pkg |
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| 16:03.49 | Eulex | gonzaloaf, it's in non-free |
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| 16:04.04 | gonzaloaf | Eulex, I have non-free already added |
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| 16:07.03 | gonzaloaf | Eulex, what debian mirror do you use? |
| 16:07.38 | DrusT | I found why the module don't load : |
| 16:07.44 | DrusT | require modprobe videodev |
| 16:08.08 | DrusT | lol, video is verticaly inverted |
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| 16:09.43 | Vlet | Just performing a little sanity check... Is it safe to disable acpid and apmd? |
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| 16:10.20 | Vlet | I'm on a proliant server... should I even bother (just thought I'd cut out some overhead) |
| 16:11.35 | Eulex | gonzaloaf, ftp.se.debian.org. also, note that nvidia-kernel-source currently isn't in testing. |
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| 16:12.06 | gonzaloaf | Eulex, yep I use testing, so how can I install nvidia driver now? |
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| 16:12.32 | kreuzfeuer | wow...n chan mit 700 usern |
| 16:12.33 | kreuzfeuer | ^^ |
| 16:12.53 | Eulex | gonzaloaf, get it from stable or unstable or a version that was in testing from snapshot.debian.net |
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| 16:13.57 | gonzaloaf | Eulex, what if I change my repos to unstable for a second? |
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| 16:15.46 | Eulex | gonzaloaf, uh, I'd avoid doing so. at least set testing to default-release while doing so. |
| 16:15.56 | yosef | i'm trying to install gtk2 , But i'm having error http://pastebin.com/m3446b8b5 and I'm getting the same error wile installing many other packages !! |
| 16:16.08 | Eulex | !default-release |
| 16:16.08 | dpkg | it has been said that default-release is put APT::Default-Release "foo"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf (create if needed) and replace foo with stable, testing, unstable, experimental or whatever. that will make foo the standard release that packages will be fetched from |
| 16:16.27 | Eulex | !wayc yosef |
| 16:16.28 | dpkg | yosef: Why are you compiling instead of using aptitude? |
| 16:17.05 | yosef | Eulex: because I don't know aptitude |
| 16:17.21 | azeem | yosef: better learn it then |
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| 16:17.47 | yosef | how can I know my gtk version? |
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| 16:18.26 | azeem | yosef: 17:57 < azeem> dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 | tail -1 |
| 16:18.43 | Eulex | yosef, well. either learn aptitude or learn how to properly compile something. using aptitude or apt-get is the easier way. |
| 16:19.10 | JordiGH | I have been given permission to setup a little Debian network in one of my school's labs. I have been given a machine to use as a fileserver, and I'd like to do this properly with NIS, NFS, yp or whatever so that it's a proper network (at last!). I have no idea what I'm talking about, so where should I start reading? |
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| 16:19.17 | yosef | Eulex: i know how to compile with apt-get |
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| 16:19.40 | yosef | Eulex: but the last version 2.11 is not there with apt ! |
| 16:19.42 | azeem | yosef: that sentence makes no sense |
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| 16:19.49 | azeem | yosef: why do you need it? |
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| 16:20.25 | Eulex | yosef, apt-get can not compile. why do you need 2.11? |
| 16:20.33 | yosef | azeem: I don't know, many other application say, need gtk 2 or more, like homeback i'm trying to install |
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| 16:20.56 | azeem | yosef: "2 or more" doesn't mean "2.11 or more" |
| 16:21.14 | Eulex | yosef, if you're trying to compile something that needs gtk2, you need the -dev package of gtk2. |
| 16:21.51 | azeem | yosef: and what applications? |
| 16:22.07 | azeem | yosef: use apt-get or aptitude to install applications, that should take care of libgtk automatically |
| 16:22.31 | yosef | azeem: homeback 3.5; gnochm; |
| 16:22.56 | azeem | what is homeback? |
| 16:23.10 | yosef | azeem: like gnu cash, something for accounting |
| 16:23.31 | yosef | azeem: http://homebank.free.fr if you want to see |
| 16:23.33 | azeem | gnochm is available in testing |
| 16:23.41 | azeem | and stable |
| 16:23.48 | sarixe | what's the difference between r0 and r1? |
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| 16:24.06 | Eulex | sarixe, securityfixes and important bug fixes |
| 16:24.06 | azeem | sarixe: r1 incorporates the security updates since the r0 release |
| 16:24.15 | sarixe | ah |
| 16:24.51 | yosef | azeem: yea, you right, I'll use the apt-get thank you |
| 16:25.10 | yosef | azeem: the applications I installed without apt, how to remove them? |
| 16:25.23 | azeem | yosef: did you install them into /usr/local or /opt? |
| 16:25.45 | azeem | just remove them manually; some might have a `make uninstall' target from their source/build tree, if you still have that |
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| 16:26.21 | yosef | azeem: I see, Thank you |
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| 16:32.43 | alfatau | hello, i'm following the http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html tutorial, but after having defined priorities, apt-get says i have 500+ upgradable packages... like a distro upgrade... anyone can help me? |
| 16:33.03 | efaistos | hi |
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| 16:33.47 | efaistos | do you know if Debian is well supported for the HP proliant servers ? |
| 16:34.06 | efaistos | i need maybe to install it on a hp proliant dl380 |
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| 16:35.09 | alex__ | efaistos, yes |
| 16:35.11 | jelly | efaistos: it works well, at least the 32bit version does. |
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| 16:35.41 | jelly | efaistos: HP even has custom installation CDs for their machines (based on sarge, I think) |
| 16:35.44 | NiLon | If I need to remove something from starting in boot, can I just remove file from /etc/init.d/ or is there "better" way? |
| 16:36.01 | Scurz | Hi ! |
| 16:36.29 | efaistos | NiLon: update-rc.d |
| 16:36.31 | efaistos | man update-rc.d |
| 16:36.47 | SpeedyG | hm, when I install debian with a default kernel, is it then possible to find the C Header files for the running kernel somewhere ? |
| 16:36.54 | SpeedyG | (and ifso, where? :) ) |
| 16:37.04 | Scurz | I've a problem with my DNS, I use bind9 and the "www" for bazar.snurf.info are not resolved, see http://pastebin.com/m722a9b91 ideas? |
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| 16:42.03 | NiLon | efaistos so basicly you remove that file from /etc/init.d and run that update-rd.d then |
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| 16:43.24 | gesina_ | muh |
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| 16:44.39 | efaistos | NiLon: hmmm ... dont remember exactly but you should have some examples in the man page ... |
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| 16:45.12 | nitro4ce | is there a command to rejoin 3 parts of a file? |
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| 16:45.54 | alex__ | nitro4ce, >> |
| 16:46.01 | alex__ | no, > |
| 16:46.08 | alex__ | less file > file > file |
| 16:46.19 | alex__ | dd /dev/hda > /dev/null |
| 16:46.24 | alex__ | woops wrong chan |
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| 16:46.53 | coldsteal | dam how do i use backports |
| 16:46.59 | coldsteal | i see libtorrent 10 http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtorrent/?C=N;O=D |
| 16:47.08 | coldsteal | but how do i get it with apt |
| 16:47.20 | coldsteal | i have deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free in my source.list |
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| 16:50.24 | unlink | i have tail -f /var/log/syslog running, but after a while it stops following syslog, what's up? |
| 16:50.49 | _mauser_ | hi.. is it possible to deny changing passwords with passwd ? |
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| 16:51.02 | SeSp | _mauser_ yes |
| 16:51.05 | ricosecada | Hi, I run apache 1.3.34. I have set the AddDefaultCharset to Off, but all documents still gets the ISO charset. The meta data is set to utf-8. When I use firefox and look and the page info, it is rendered as iso-8859-1. Any hints on how to solve this? |
| 16:51.11 | dkr | unlink: the log files are rotated daily, so syslog becomes syslog.0 syslog.0 becomes syslog.1 etc |
| 16:51.18 | SeSp | just don't let everyone to run it |
| 16:51.28 | SeSp | the +x permission |
| 16:52.08 | dkr | coldsteal: apt-get update ; apt-get install libtorrent |
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| 16:52.20 | _mauser_ | SeSp: ok, that would be the easiest way. i thought of libnsswitch |
| 16:52.26 | coldsteal | dkr: will that get me 10? |
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| 16:53.12 | unlink | dkr: good thinking |
| 16:53.45 | coldsteal | dkr: if i do apt-cache search libtorrent i dont see 10 even tho i have backports enabled |
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| 17:02.34 | smacnay | Hi, are any of the hauppage usb video grabber/encoders well supported in linux? |
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| 17:04.35 | corey | abrotman hey it's mfrisch. Still trying to get that damn wifi to work. Have any howto's I can read? |
| 17:04.46 | abrotman | dependso n the chipset |
| 17:05.24 | corey | abrotman well it's ndiswrapper. I just can't get iwconfig to associate with any ap. Think I just need to know that. |
| 17:06.06 | abrotman | just put the iw option in the interfaces file |
| 17:06.19 | corey | abrotman also the clock is allways borked when it is offline. |
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| 17:06.46 | corey | abrotman ok have seen that stuff. How do I do a "any" ESSID? |
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| 17:07.41 | khermans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.46 | khermans | can i recover? |
| 17:08.31 | bjorkimacg3 | what were you doing in /var/lib/dpkg/info with rm -rf? |
| 17:08.36 | abrotman | bad stuff |
| 17:08.51 | khermans | bjorkimacg3, i was messing with some deb files, the control files |
| 17:08.58 | corey | abrotman ok off to go try again....THANKS! |
| 17:09.20 | khermans | abchirk, is there some way to recover? |
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| 17:09.30 | khermans | abrotman, i tried -> aptitude reinstall ~i |
| 17:09.41 | khermans | but i get... Writing extended state information... Error! |
| 17:10.27 | sid | How can I remove all commas and spaces from a filename, and replace them with underscores |
| 17:10.28 | coldsteal | khermans: well u could have recovered if u would have pulled the plug |
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| 17:10.36 | sid | I have 50 files |
| 17:10.39 | khermans | coldsteal, :-( |
| 17:10.46 | coldsteal | khermans: but the info is probly overwritten |
| 17:10.47 | khermans | what do you mean |
| 17:10.52 | alfatau | hello, i'm following the http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html tutorial, but after having defined priorities, apt-get says i have 500+ upgradable packages... like a distro upgrade... anyone can help me? |
| 17:11.06 | coldsteal | khermans: what fs? |
| 17:11.08 | khermans | coldbeer_, well what is in info that needs to be there to reinstall ? |
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| 17:11.18 | khermans | coldbeer_, i am not going to recover with file carving |
| 17:11.24 | khermans | ugg |
| 17:11.34 | khermans | ^^ ~\@coldsteal |
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| 17:12.26 | coldsteal | khermans: the fs is ugg? |
| 17:12.34 | khermans | what i am saying is dpkg knows what packages are installed |
| 17:12.38 | khermans | i want to reinstall them |
| 17:12.41 | khermans | ext3 |
| 17:13.11 | khermans | why can i not get aptitude to pull them down and reinstall? |
| 17:13.15 | abrotman | sidman rename |
| 17:13.19 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 17:13.31 | abrotman | khermans: you can manually extract all thepackages you have installed |
| 17:13.45 | bjorkimacg3 | khermans, it's possible to undelete files in *nix |
| 17:13.56 | khermans | bjorkimacg3, yes of course, i know how to do that |
| 17:14.05 | coldsteal | khermans: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909_2.htm |
| 17:14.08 | bjorkimacg3 | do you really? how's it done? |
| 17:14.12 | khermans | abrotman, but why cant aptitude pull them down ? |
| 17:14.22 | khermans | bjorkimacg3, yes i have done it hunddreds of times |
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| 17:14.40 | khermans | bjorkimacg3, using gpart, foremost, and magicrescue |
| 17:14.48 | bjorkimacg3 | ah. |
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| 17:16.55 | khermans | abrotman, why would i need to manually extract, why cant apt do it for me? |
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| 17:17.43 | khermans | abrotman, dpkg --list | wc -l = 1156 |
| 17:17.54 | khermans | and it knows what packages were installed at one point |
| 17:18.00 | khermans | all i want apt to do is pull the mdown |
| 17:18.10 | abrotman | khermans: apt-get --reinstall ? |
| 17:18.43 | khermans | abrotman, not a valid command |
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| 17:19.31 | khermans | abrotman, it should be able to pull down the files i would guess |
| 17:19.53 | odla | khermans: apt-get install foo --reinstall ... iirc |
| 17:20.06 | Braindead | aptitude reinstall foo |
| 17:20.16 | odla | or what Braindead said |
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| 17:20.23 | abrotman | khermans: you'd read the man page |
| 17:20.26 | khermans | Braindead, no does not work |
| 17:20.33 | Braindead | !doesn't work |
| 17:20.33 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 17:20.44 | khermans | Braindead, i posted the rror previusly |
| 17:20.51 | khermans | "Writing extended state information... Error!" |
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| 17:21.32 | Braindead | khermans: bear with me for a second. output of uname -a ? |
| 17:21.46 | linux_user_not | whats the name for that game emulator for linux? |
| 17:21.58 | Braindead | linux_user_not: cedega, probably |
| 17:21.59 | khermans | Braindead, linux |
| 17:22.01 | linux_user_not | ye |
| 17:22.02 | khermans | :-0 |
| 17:22.02 | nvz | does anyone know if having a sane supported scanner gaurentees I can use it from windows using the sane-net? |
| 17:22.04 | linux_user_not | thats the one |
| 17:22.05 | linux_user_not | cheers |
| 17:22.12 | Braindead | khermans: uname -a |
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| 17:22.20 | khermans | Braindead, i run a custom kernel |
| 17:22.31 | Braindead | khermans: so? |
| 17:22.39 | abrotman | khermans: he's asking a simple question .. help him out |
| 17:22.43 | khermans | Braindead, so you think the kernel is interfering with apt |
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| 17:23.19 | khermans | 2.6.20-16-generic |
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| 17:23.21 | khermans | -r for ya |
| 17:23.24 | jshriver | hello |
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| 17:23.31 | khermans | :-0 |
| 17:23.39 | jshriver | Anyone know if you can do basic logic programming in Calc |
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| 17:23.39 | Braindead | khermans: I just won ten bucks. you're using Ubuntu. ask them |
| 17:23.41 | netcrash | Does anyone know any shell like xterm or konsole that when you connect to a machine it will place on the title the name of the machine ? |
| 17:23.43 | jshriver | Openoffice calc |
| 17:23.56 | khermans | Braindead, but this is not an ubuntu-specific issues, it is all about hwo apt works |
| 17:24.06 | khermans | and i wanted to ask the originators of apt |
| 17:24.15 | Braindead | no. it's still Ubuntu-related |
| 17:24.23 | cahoot | nvz, last time I checked networked scanning was unheard of wrt windows (xp then) |
| 17:24.29 | Braindead | which part of NOT DEBIAN you don't understand? |
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| 17:24.45 | Braindead | "originators" and "children" are 2 different things |
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| 17:25.22 | nvz | cahoot: yeah well we switched to vista and the secretary has a scsi flatbed & adf dohicky.. and it works with sane but not with vista |
| 17:25.48 | nvz | cahoot: if I can get it to scan in windows with sane-net that would be great.. if not I will have to hack a cgi script and a web interface or something |
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| 17:26.43 | nvz | cahoot: thing is I mainly need the Adf to be able to do OCR and make images, word docs, and pdfs.. and she's used to this commercial laserfiche program and has a ton of stuff indexed in there already.. we're not even sure yet it vista supports that.. heh |
| 17:27.13 | Hammar | can anyone point me to a comprehensible bash scripting introduction/tutorial/other ressource? |
| 17:27.28 | abrotman | Hammar: ask #bash .. see the bash programming HOWTO |
| 17:27.35 | |bb7| | DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF found in exim configuration. This is most probably, caused by you upgrading to exim4 4.67-3 or later without accepting the, suggested conffile changes. Please read, |
| 17:27.45 | |bb7| | hi, i got this error after a dist upgrade: |
| 17:28.17 | abrotman | doens't it tell you what to read ? |
| 17:28.20 | |bb7| | now i can't remove, reinstall, upgrade or semothing else with package exim4, what can i do? |
| 17:29.27 | Hammar | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:29.33 | Sayers | What is the later kernel with 2core abilitys and how would I install it [the package name]? |
| 17:29.43 | abrotman | Sayers: are you running etch ? |
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| 17:30.26 | Sayers | abrotman, lenny |
| 17:30.33 | nvz | oh well still no word on the laserfiche.. I'd hate to have to figure out their index db format and write a new program for that |
| 17:31.00 | abrotman | Sayers: it's an intel chip ? |
| 17:31.03 | Braindead | khermans: just for the record /tmp/aptitude-0.4.6.1$ grep -r "Error\!" * a grep on the sources bears 0 (zero) results |
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| 17:31.11 | nvz | got like nearly 1gb of shit scanned in to that damn proprietary program it better work on vista |
| 17:31.13 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 17:31.17 | Sayers | abrotman, no but I am runnning X86 |
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| 17:31.42 | abrotman | that's not intel ? |
| 17:31.49 | abrotman | Sayers: what is your CPU ? |
| 17:31.51 | ribnitz | Anyone here using Latex? (Koma-script)- I need a titlepage without pagenumber for scrartcl |
| 17:32.03 | nvz | abrotman: na, x86 is motorola :P |
| 17:32.06 | Braindead | khermans: and differences vary from error messages to the very core of every application in Ubuntu. it depends. so no more "it's debian" shit here. and you knew you were doing something wrong so you kept playing the smartass role |
| 17:32.32 | Sayers | abchirk, an amd64 but running the 86 arch type. |
| 17:32.34 | abrotman | Braindead: he might have a different version than you |
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| 17:32.43 | Braindead | abrotman: yeah. he's using UBUNTU |
| 17:32.47 | abrotman | Braindead: and you probably want to check libapt or dpkg |
| 17:32.55 | Braindead | d'oh, true |
| 17:33.05 | nvz | if he only had a brain.. |
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| 17:33.26 | Braindead | I didn't like his schmuck attitude, I felt he was hiding something |
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| 17:34.03 | yosef | Hi |
| 17:34.05 | Braindead | /O/ pheaaar meeeee |
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| 17:34.32 | yosef | I install easy tag 2.1.2 But it's not working, when I click help > about it say mp3 support is disabled , somebody know why? |
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| 17:35.19 | JuanCraft | Hi... can somebody plz remember me what is thet package to control the mouse without X server? |
| 17:35.21 | JordiGH | I downloaded all three etch DVDs. |
| 17:35.29 | Braindead | JuanCraft: gpm |
| 17:35.31 | wietz0r | JuanCraft: gpm |
| 17:35.39 | JordiGH | I want one computer to use those DVDs and the others to get Debian packages from this one via the local network. |
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| 17:35.49 | JuanCraft | Braindead, thank you so much! :p |
| 17:35.54 | nvz | someone remember me how to adjust the settings on mousekeys.. its annoying |
| 17:35.58 | JordiGH | There are a number of packages to do this. apt-proxy is one of them, but is that the recommended way of doing this? |
| 17:36.06 | wietz0r | zicho: xorg.conf |
| 17:36.16 | nvz | the xset mouse settings don't seem to apply to the keyboard |
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| 17:36.37 | nvz | there should be some way to speed up and adjust accell of the keyboard mouse cursor |
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| 17:37.11 | itchi | I may recommend apt-cache and not apt-proxy, i have switched some months ago |
| 17:37.17 | itchi | bah, apt-cacher |
| 17:37.26 | nvz | yeah apt-cacher > apt-proxy |
| 17:37.31 | JordiGH | Okay. |
| 17:37.41 | nvz | I stopped using it though cause I only have one debian box now |
| 17:37.53 | JuanCraft | wietz0r, tnx to u too :p |
| 17:38.11 | abrotman | there's also approx |
| 17:38.46 | nvz | there's also a strike and a line of cops outside of the mill, there's a right to obey, and a right to kill |
| 17:38.58 | itchi | hhhm, i should give it a try |
| 17:38.58 | nvz | but that's irrelevant |
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| 17:39.55 | JordiGH | Okay, the "server" has apt-cacher installed, the "clients" need it too? Can you give me a quick explanation on how to use it, or should I just rtfm? |
| 17:40.03 | nvz | I still remember standing in the police office the other day and Mr Cross telling me he's not a cop, he's a "police officer".. that cracked me up |
| 17:40.04 | itchi | JordiGH: No |
| 17:40.16 | itchi | JordiGH: Just need to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to you apt-cacher server |
| 17:40.28 | JordiGH | itchi: Sweet. |
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| 17:40.42 | JordiGH | itchi: So it's easy to use. Great. |
| 17:40.50 | nvz | I was suppose to tell him that we only hire cops, but I bit my tongue |
| 17:40.56 | itchi | JordiGH: It seem that apporx works a bit differently, but i not yet have experiences with it. |
| 17:40.57 | putz | now |
| 17:41.01 | itchi | JordiGH: Yeah, realy easy |
| 17:41.01 | putz | this is a story all about how |
| 17:41.32 | itchi | JordiGH: I guess you take a look with apt-cache show approx ;-) |
| 17:41.32 | helo | !lart people who use ambiguous function names |
| 17:41.42 | putz | my box got flipped turned upside down |
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| 17:41.52 | nvz | putz: heh |
| 17:42.01 | nvz | putz: did the magic smoke come out? |
| 17:42.22 | nvz | they run on magic smoke.. once it comes out you're fucked |
| 17:42.22 | putz | and I'd like to take a minute just sit right there; I'll tell you how debian made me hate Linux |
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| 17:42.41 | nvz | as long as the magic smoke is still in there, its all good |
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| 17:42.59 | itchi | hehe |
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| 17:43.35 | nvz | you need to be a 10th level mage to put the magic smoke back in |
| 17:43.44 | nvz | mere man can fix just about anything else |
| 17:43.58 | Braindead | and then put the lime in the coconut |
| 17:44.10 | putz | drink them both together |
| 17:44.14 | nvz | makes me think of Practical Magic |
| 17:44.35 | nvz | that song is on the soundtrack |
| 17:45.29 | nvz | oh well I'm dissapearing.. I've got enough experience points to pull that off anyhow |
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| 17:48.55 | jetscreamer | i hate to say it but there's not much point of running debian on my old laptop |
| 17:49.01 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 17:49.19 | jetscreamer | that makes 2 |
| 17:50.00 | odla | jetscreamer: what will you run? |
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| 17:50.16 | jetscreamer | probably boring xp |
| 17:50.57 | ampex | jetscreamer: what's wrong with debian on the old laptop? |
| 17:50.59 | jetscreamer | no 24bit 3d in xorg and the 16bit likes to lock up |
| 17:51.23 | jetscreamer | old savage gpu |
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| 17:51.36 | ampex | jetscreamer: are you trying to get a 3d window manager, or games? |
| 17:51.43 | ampex | yech, s3 |
| 17:51.55 | Aeroraptor | does the debian floppy that has CD drivers support PCMCIA CD drives? |
| 17:51.59 | ampex | 3d deccelerator |
| 17:52.09 | jetscreamer | games yeah |
| 17:52.26 | jetscreamer | no biggie |
| 17:52.35 | ampex | windows xp won't play games any better than linux does on that gpu I'm afraid |
| 17:52.55 | jetscreamer | but! |
| 17:53.17 | abrotman | jetscreamer: /msg dpkg s3 |
| 17:53.22 | abrotman | jetscreamer: on a side note .. try 15bit |
| 17:53.26 | jetscreamer | aiglx says i am 1 meg short in the vidram for 24bit 3d ... |
| 17:53.30 | jetscreamer | 15 you sya |
| 17:53.33 | jetscreamer | say |
| 17:53.47 | abrotman | some of those nasty s3 cards didn't have a 16bit mode .. just 15bit |
| 17:54.09 | abrotman | (though those might be the older models) |
| 17:54.14 | jetscreamer | it's the locking up 16bit that depresses me... it did actually work, it's just that it locks up on startx more often than not |
| 17:54.19 | jetscreamer | this is a semi older one |
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| 17:54.31 | abrotman | no .. imean the Trio level |
| 17:54.36 | jetscreamer | and the games run good |
| 17:54.40 | jetscreamer | the what? |
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| 17:55.11 | abrotman | the older S3 Trio shit cards |
| 17:55.15 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 17:55.31 | Apachez | whats the proper way of disable ipv6 in etch ? |
| 17:55.41 | jetscreamer | first vidcard i ever bought was an s3 virge... oops |
| 17:55.44 | drako | .=. |
| 17:55.50 | abrotman | jetscreamer: yeah .. like that old :) |
| 17:55.55 | abrotman | Apachez: blacklist hte module |
| 17:56.29 | Apachez | abrotman: how ? :P |
| 17:57.16 | abrotman | !tell Apachez about blacklist |
| 17:57.40 | Apachez | http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/01/disable-ipv6-module-on-default-kernels/ |
| 17:57.42 | Apachez | ohh nice .) |
| 17:57.44 | kenji | guys Im ussing this var mes=$(date -d yesterday +%m) but it show the month in spanish, I need it in english, can some one help me? |
| 17:58.09 | Apachez | abrotman: wouldnt the method in my link be better than the blacklist method ? |
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| 17:58.40 | abrotman | Apachez: nfc .. i didn't read it |
| 17:58.53 | abrotman | kenji: LANG=C |
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| 18:00.27 | jetscreamer | i like it for irc (this not being the laptop, that was) |
| 18:00.49 | jetscreamer | and keeping me from being bored out of my head at work |
| 18:00.57 | jetscreamer | the 15bit locked up also btw |
| 18:01.08 | Apachez | nfc= ? |
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| 18:02.28 | jelly | Hi. I can't run tunctl as user, even though /dev/net/tun is writable and readable. |
| 18:02.36 | jelly | open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR) = 3 |
| 18:02.36 | jelly | ioctl(3, TUNSETIFF, 0xbfb9bde0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) |
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| 18:03.29 | abrotman | MACHINEBLACKANAL: stop it already |
| 18:03.41 | kenji | abrotman can I use LANG just for this instruction? or it will change the language for all the system? |
| 18:03.52 | abrotman | kenji: that is for one instruction |
| 18:03.59 | abrotman | kenji: try it on the command line before in your script |
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| 18:04.47 | kenji | abrotman: alex@duritz:~$ mes=$(date -d yesterday +%m) alex@duritz:~$ echo $mes |
| 18:04.47 | kenji | 08 |
| 18:04.55 | kenji | I need Agust not 08 :S |
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| 18:05.33 | abrotman | kenji: |
| 18:05.36 | abrotman | kenji: \ |
| 18:05.38 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 18:05.40 | abrotman | % B |
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| 18:05.50 | kenji | abrotman what do you mean with \ ? xD |
| 18:05.56 | jelly | abrotman: make him rtfm :-) |
| 18:06.07 | abrotman | kenji: man date .. look for the B date format string |
| 18:06.13 | abrotman | %B |
| 18:06.13 | jelly | \o/ |
| 18:06.15 | nvz | jelly: I feel your pain I've been running on a ProSuckage4 for years |
| 18:06.15 | abrotman | there we go! |
| 18:06.19 | nvz | er jetscreamer |
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| 18:06.31 | earthian | hello again |
| 18:06.36 | abrotman | ack! |
| 18:06.50 | nvz | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) |
| 18:06.51 | abrotman | CactusMD: can you stop with the 20 nick changes ? |
| 18:06.53 | jelly | nvz: dunno, I might like being sucked by a pro. or four. |
| 18:06.55 | nvz | woot :P |
| 18:07.05 | earthian | :o |
| 18:07.09 | kenji | abrotman I don't need to use man |
| 18:07.14 | kenji | abrotman: LC_SOMETHING=C date |
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| 18:07.16 | kenji | tnks guys |
| 18:07.20 | nvz | jelly: an S3 Prosavage onboard video is what this box has.. I added the RIVA recently |
| 18:07.35 | nvz | though I never installed the nvidia drivers yet |
| 18:07.42 | abrotman | kenji: LANG=C date -d yesterday + |
| 18:07.45 | nvz | you need some old driver I forgot which one for this card |
| 18:07.47 | abrotman | kenji: LANG=C date -d yesterday +%B |
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| 18:08.25 | kenji | abrotman LC_SOMETHING=C date solve it, LANG=C just return 08 |
| 18:08.55 | abrotman | because you're using the wrong date format string |
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| 18:09.17 | zicho | Today I received my debian t-shirt. Awesome. |
| 18:09.32 | abrotman | $ date -d yesterday + |
| 18:09.32 | abrotman | August |
| 18:09.36 | abrotman | +%B |
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| 18:11.47 | ferret | xand: ping |
| 18:12.32 | corey | ok I associate to a ap but when I try to get a ip it won't and messes up the association. Please help! |
| 18:12.53 | jelly | woah. *** glibc detected *** strace: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0807b6b8 *** |
| 18:12.57 | ferret | xand: uh, never mind |
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| 18:13.31 | corey | abrotman you there now? |
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| 18:13.39 | abrotman | jelly: so are buggy reporters! |
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| 18:13.46 | abrotman | corey: tried asking #ndiswrapper ? |
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| 18:14.00 | corey | abrotman no but I am so close ;-) |
| 18:14.44 | corey | abrotman it associates then when I try to get an ip it messes it up then reassociates when I bring it down |
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| 18:14.57 | abrotman | doesn't make any sense to me |
| 18:15.10 | corey | abrotman what is you interface file look like? would you post it for me? |
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| 18:15.37 | abrotman | corey: i odn't have mine here .. but i just have two optoins for wireless to work .. the essid and the wep key |
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| 18:16.08 | corey | abrotman it is supposed to be inet dhcp right? |
| 18:16.16 | grendal_prime | Primer sorry i got bounced |
| 18:16.17 | abrotman | i would assume so |
| 18:16.22 | bulio| | will the net install for 4.0 install r1 fine too? |
| 18:16.36 | abrotman | bulio|: after you're done .. you just move to r1 |
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| 18:17.13 | corey | abrotman I had the damn hardware switch the wrong way before ;-( hehe |
| 18:17.19 | abrotman | whoops |
| 18:17.27 | corey | abrotman it works |
| 18:17.30 | bulio| | abrotman: with aptitude upgrade? |
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| 18:18.07 | abrotman | bulio|: yes |
| 18:18.13 | bulio| | ok |
| 18:18.27 | corey | abrotman does this line mean anything? Authentication Suites (1) : Proprietary |
| 18:18.33 | abrotman | bulio|: you might need a dist-upgrade for the kernel .. nto sure |
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| 18:18.36 | abrotman | corey: not to me |
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| 18:19.00 | corey | ok off to ndiswrapper. its on freenode? |
| 18:19.01 | kenji | is hurd a microkernel or a monolitic kernel? |
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| 18:19.07 | abrotman | !Hurd |
| 18:19.07 | dpkg | hurd is probably a POSIX compatible collection of servers that run on the GNU Mach microkernel, it is the core of the GNU system, see http://hurd.gnu.org, or a HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons. http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ for Debian GNU/Hurd or /join #hurd on irc.freenode.net |
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| 18:19.21 | corey | abrotman thanks |
| 18:19.23 | d34dh4ck | micro i believe |
| 18:19.50 | kenji | abrotman: so hurd its a collection of servers and if I have 5 servers I have a hurd? |
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| 18:20.02 | earthian | is there such a device as the system speaker? |
| 18:20.27 | earthian | if Y then how is it called under /dev |
| 18:20.28 | earthian | ? |
| 18:20.33 | corey | abrotman what is the other one #wireless ??? |
| 18:20.39 | abrotman | kenji: no |
| 18:20.44 | abrotman | corey: that's one .. yes |
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| 18:21.08 | kenji | abrotman: thats what dpkg sayd, If I have a collection of servers running on match I have a hurd |
| 18:21.15 | grendal_prime | primer i think i figured it out..pgadmin3 has a process for setting up the index's based on that function it created so would this work |
| 18:21.27 | sc | hi! im really new to the world of linux.. could someone tell me whats the command to install something? |
| 18:21.37 | abrotman | kenji: that descriptions is correct .. but you're misinterpreting it |
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| 18:21.46 | abrotman | grendal_prime: are you in the right channel ? |
| 18:21.47 | kenji | abrotman: ¬¬ |
| 18:21.49 | earthian | kenji, seems that dpkg is not so smart after all :/ |
| 18:21.56 | earthian | :o |
| 18:21.57 | earthian | oh |
| 18:21.57 | abrotman | !tell sc about grounding |
| 18:21.59 | earthian | nvm |
| 18:22.00 | abrotman | !tell sc about refcard |
| 18:22.11 | d34dh4ck | in debian it is "apt-get install" |
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| 18:22.22 | earthian | abrotman, hurd servers are like sound server, x server etc? |
| 18:22.23 | d34dh4ck | try a package manager like synaptic though...it is very nice to have a big list |
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| 18:23.24 | sc | i need to install a tar package |
| 18:23.42 | kenji | earthian: so kill dpkg and start helping people not ussing a boot to do your work |
| 18:24.06 | Braindead | sc: are you absolutely sure you need to? |
| 18:24.08 | earthian | :o |
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| 18:25.34 | sc | y |
| 18:25.36 | sc | ye |
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| 18:26.14 | Braindead | sc: can you expand that answer? like, for instance, what's inside "that tar package" |
| 18:26.18 | jetscreamer | hmm i may have found and Option that helps... /me tests |
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| 18:26.57 | jetscreamer | heh... now it locks up when exiting? :) |
| 18:27.02 | jetscreamer | better than starting |
| 18:27.34 | jetscreamer | ahh.... looks like just black not locked :) an improvement |
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| 18:27.53 | abrotman | jetscreamer: have you checked the ilnux-laptop website ? |
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| 18:28.05 | jetscreamer | yeah and the T20 pages i can find also |
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| 18:28.26 | Kevin` | how do I get ssl working in debian's apache2? |
| 18:28.40 | abrotman | a2enmod ssl |
| 18:28.54 | Kevin` | what? |
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| 18:29.12 | Kevin` | I don't have that command, if it's a command |
| 18:29.40 | abrotman | it's a root command |
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| 18:30.10 | Kevin` | bah, I did it on the wrong computer, too many screens |
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| 18:33.04 | BlackDiamonds | if I want to help out with debian, where do I start ? |
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| 18:33.36 | Kevin` | I restarted it and it's not listening for connections on port 443, what else do I need to do |
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| 18:35.35 | abrotman | BlackDiamonds: depends what your abilities are |
| 18:35.46 | abrotman | Kevin`: ports.conf |
| 18:35.49 | BlackDiamonds | I can't code for debian not enough skill yet |
| 18:35.58 | BlackDiamonds | I was thinking about helping with packaging or something |
| 18:36.13 | abrotman | you can file bugs .. you can help users on irc/mailing lists .. you can fix bugs .. you can package software |
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| 18:36.24 | Nikosaei | hi |
| 18:36.26 | bzed | BlackDiamonds: http://www.debian.org/intro/help and http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-intro are probably good things to read |
| 18:36.28 | abrotman | you can write man pages .. all kinds of stuff |
| 18:36.31 | Nikosaei | can anyone help me |
| 18:36.34 | abrotman | jut ask |
| 18:36.35 | abrotman | just |
| 18:36.39 | Nikosaei | i am from greece fun of debian |
| 18:36.42 | Nikosaei | i just installed |
| 18:36.45 | Nikosaei | testing |
| 18:37.05 | Nikosaei | 4.0r1 etch |
| 18:37.09 | abrotman | etch is stable |
| 18:37.11 | BlackDiamonds | besides packaging what else can I do ? |
| 18:37.16 | Nikosaei | i wand to post a source.list |
| 18:37.22 | bzed | BlackDiamonds: read the links I sent you? |
| 18:37.23 | Nikosaei | just a moment |
| 18:37.28 | BlackDiamonds | oh |
| 18:37.30 | Nikosaei | etch is stable? |
| 18:37.31 | bzed | !paste Nikosaei |
| 18:37.31 | dpkg | Nikosaei: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 18:37.37 | BlackDiamonds | wait thanks bzed |
| 18:37.43 | bzed | Nikosaei: yes, etch is stable |
| 18:37.47 | Nikosaei | where i can download testing |
| 18:37.52 | coldsteal | im trying to do screen -S wget cd /tmp/ ;wget file but i get Cannot exec 'cd': No such file or directory |
| 18:37.56 | Nikosaei | i want latest packets |
| 18:38.01 | Nikosaei | of postfix |
| 18:38.06 | bjorkimacg3 | why can't i use ctrl+alt +/- to change the screen resolution? |
| 18:38.13 | abrotman | bjorkimacg3: you only have one defined |
| 18:38.22 | abrotman | bjorkimacg3: also try xrandr |
| 18:38.26 | coldsteal | linux |
| 18:38.44 | kenji | guys this don't work cosa= LANG=C date -d yesterday +%B |
| 18:39.00 | Nikosaei | a link for download testing please |
| 18:39.05 | kenji | if I do LANG=C date -d yesterday +%B it show Agust but I can't keep this value in a var :S can you help me? |
| 18:39.22 | grendal_prime | abrotman: no thanks |
| 18:39.43 | abrotman | grendal_prime: the person you're talking to isn't even here |
| 18:40.13 | grendal_prime | abrotman: ya...he was in postgresql sorry about that |
| 18:40.14 | grendal_prime | hehee |
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| 18:42.29 | Kevin` | abrotman now it listens for standard http connections on port 443.. |
| 18:43.00 | jetscreamer | heh... well black on exit is better than black on start |
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| 18:52.46 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 18:52.46 | dpkg | * ravenbird whips out his power stapler and staples jetscreamer's genitalia to the ground <jetscreamer> musta been a very large staple |
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| 18:56.41 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 18:57.13 | unlink | how do i install shadow passwords? |
| 18:57.23 | abrotman | what makes you think you don't have them already? |
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| 18:57.43 | unlink | because the password hashes are in /etc/passwd and there is no file /etc/shadow |
| 18:58.04 | abrotman | simonrvn: ping! |
| 18:58.55 | kyncani | unlink: man -k shadow returns some interesting results here, like a shadowconfig tool |
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| 18:59.18 | kyncani | unlink: don't know about it though, shadow passwords have always been enabled here |
| 18:59.30 | unlink | oh sweet |
| 18:59.35 | kyncani | :) |
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| 19:00.50 | Cartooncat | Hello all |
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| 19:03.04 | Cartooncat | I am having some very weird dns issues, and it is only with this box (i have 4 other computers here and they are fine) |
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| 19:03.44 | Cartooncat | nslookup/ping/traceroute all work fine, as does kong, but it has spread from apt-get/aptitude to effecting firefox |
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| 19:08.23 | Cartooncat | Is there anyway to figure out why/how the dns server is responding with 1.0.0.0 to apt-get/aptitude but is responding with correct ips to most everything else? |
| 19:08.48 | Cartooncat | (Im watching in wireshark, and the dns is sending a responce with 1.0.0.0) |
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| 19:09.40 | Flakk | Hello people I have a very basic question about debian ( etch) |
| 19:10.08 | Flakk | I am trying to install the newly bought SATA hard drive and it does not work any help? |
| 19:10.31 | Flakk | I put the cables where they should be but no traces of the new drive! |
| 19:10.49 | itchi | Flakk: So to say, it seems that the module for that hardware is not build in the kernel |
| 19:11.10 | itchi | Flakk: Look wich hardware it is with lspci |
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| 19:11.42 | itchi | Flakk: Which kernel do you use? |
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| 19:12.22 | Flakk | itchi: I have debian etch 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 19:12.35 | mesof | how do i chmod a file to not be edited, what are the writes numbers? |
| 19:12.43 | mesof | read only |
| 19:12.48 | Braindead | Flakk: check http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi |
| 19:12.56 | Braindead | Flakk: "no traces" as in ... ? |
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| 19:13.14 | itchi | mesof: use the 'ugo'?? ex: g-r remove for group the read mode ... |
| 19:13.20 | aaco | mesof, you can use chmod with letters like chmod -r file |
| 19:13.26 | mesof | thanks |
| 19:13.27 | itchi | mesof: Anyway, man chmod :-p |
| 19:13.41 | itchi | mesof: hint g+r :-) |
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| 19:14.08 | Flakk | braindead: i tried reasonable ways to incorporate the SATA drive, for example gparted, but failed it just does not wwant to work, and cfdisk also. |
| 19:14.15 | h3sp4wn | mesof: or you can use chattr +i |
| 19:14.24 | Flakk | itchi: lspci detects only one IDE drive |
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| 19:14.42 | Braindead | Flakk: I expected something more along the lines of "nothing on dmesg" |
| 19:14.49 | itchi | Flakk: Nah, first find out if it's been detected by the kernel, dmesg and look your logs |
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| 19:15.06 | itchi | Flakk: My guess of the day is that you need to use a decenter kernel. |
| 19:15.37 | itchi | SATA should be build into the kernel anyway, how would you boot of it otherwise |
| 19:15.50 | Flakk | itchi: what do you mean by a "decenter" kernel? |
| 19:16.02 | itchi | Flakk: A newer one |
| 19:16.19 | itchi | Flakk: But i still not know which hardware you may have ;-) |
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| 19:16.40 | itchi | emmanuelux: Bonsoir emmanuelux :-p |
| 19:16.59 | Flakk | itchi this kernel is at most 4 months old I grabbed it at the debian official site in June |
| 19:17.01 | xingu | !1.0.0.0 |
| 19:17.01 | dpkg | hmm... 1.0.0.0 is - your cheap and nasty gateway is probably buggy; this is typically the address a busted DNS proxy will issue in reply to an IPv6 name to address DNS query (AAAA query-type) |
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| 19:17.08 | h3sp4wn | unlink: just dpkg-reconfigure passwd (should let you enable them) |
| 19:17.21 | itchi | Flakk: Yeah sure, but still :-s |
| 19:17.27 | emmanuelux | bsoir |
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| 19:18.15 | itchi | Flakk: I guess this is recent hardware that is (maybe) not supported by your kernel. But i not trust my cristal ball i may say |
| 19:18.15 | aaco | Flakk, just a guess, but I think that the SATA drivers, if properly detected by the kernel, has the /dev/sdaX name (I just don't remember if sda is the correct name of the device), where X is the number of the partition |
| 19:19.04 | itchi | Probably it is sd* |
| 19:19.38 | itchi | My stupid card reader have got the first, no way to put my hdd as the first "device" :-s |
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| 19:19.54 | Flakk | itchi, aaco: actually the #cfdisk returns an error message: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive Press any key to exit cfdisk |
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| 19:20.15 | itchi | Flakk: Look with /proc/partition, avoid whatever app right now |
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| 19:20.57 | Flakk | itchi: what is /proc/partition? could you type the exact name of the command? |
| 19:20.59 | Dark_Apostrophe | I have a question that I think is prone to incide ridicule: |
| 19:21.07 | Braindead | shoot it |
| 19:21.09 | itchi | Flakk: cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:21.13 | itchi | Braindead: :-p |
| 19:21.16 | Dark_Apostrophe | I want to digitize some old audio casette tapes |
| 19:21.40 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can I just stick a microphone next to the casette player or do I need to do something more? |
| 19:21.43 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Put a cable to your input, press play and there you go |
| 19:21.57 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: You seems that crazy :-) |
| 19:22.11 | Braindead | Dark_Apostrophe: a microphone in front of a ghettoblaster....mmm ghetto recording |
| 19:22.12 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Do that "Walkman" trick :-) |
| 19:22.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | Walkman trick? |
| 19:22.28 | Braindead | Dark_Apostrophe: line out->line in. clear the output |
| 19:22.39 | Dark_Apostrophe | Also, I don't have a minijack cable with two male plugs |
| 19:22.59 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: On the walkman, you have the output where you put the headset, put there a cable in it and connect it to the input of your sound card |
| 19:23.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | I understand that part |
| 19:23.20 | Braindead | Dark_Apostrophe: buy it? it must be 5 bucks,worst case scenario |
| 19:23.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | But I need to have a cable that has two male plugs on both sides |
| 19:23.26 | Dark_Apostrophe | Braindead: Where? |
| 19:23.32 | Dark_Apostrophe | I don't have a clue where to find such a cable |
| 19:23.35 | Flakk | itchi: well /proc/partitions gives a list of 6 which are called hdb, hdb1, hdb2, etc |
| 19:23.43 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Yes, you need a cable, you can build that for cheap |
| 19:23.49 | Braindead | Dark_Apostrophe: any media store? any musical instrument store? |
| 19:24.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hmm... I'll have a look around |
| 19:24.02 | itchi | Flakk: No sd* ? |
| 19:24.09 | Flakk | itchi NO |
| 19:24.15 | aaco | Dark_Apostrophe, electronic shops or ebay should have |
| 19:24.39 | Dark_Apostrophe | Anyway, I don't need perfect quality, but I know that analog audio in generally has some background noise - Is there a way to kill that noise? |
| 19:24.45 | itchi | Flakk: I know that with a generic driver, your sata may have hd* too, but i guess it is you other driver |
| 19:24.50 | itchi | s/driver/drive |
| 19:25.05 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Audacity |
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| 19:25.11 | Flakk | itchi: yes I think sata should be listed as sdb .. |
| 19:25.50 | Flakk | what d u mean by s/driver/drive? |
| 19:25.55 | Dark_Apostrophe | itchi: Okay... I never managed to use it properly though... are there any tutorials? |
| 19:25.56 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: I guess there may be a more specialised tool, but audacity is that good btw |
| 19:26.05 | kingsley | How should one stop spamassassin from mis-classifying good email as spam? |
| 19:26.09 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Try to learn it ;-) |
| 19:26.18 | Dark_Apostrophe | Okay. Well, thanks :) |
| 19:26.19 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Read the help files of it :-) |
| 19:26.24 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sure :) |
| 19:26.41 | frojnd | hello tehre. While I try to install ubuntu I get this error message: buffer I/o error on device fd0, logical block 0. What does this mean ??????? |
| 19:26.59 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: Honesty, i not know much about that app. It's long time ago that i have use it |
| 19:27.16 | itchi | Dark_Apostrophe: More honesty, i was running MS :-s |
| 19:27.47 | itchi | There's much more options now and many thinks have changes since |
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| 19:28.03 | itchi | kingsley: Configure it right :-) |
| 19:28.24 | itchi | frojnd: Ask on #ubuntu |
| 19:28.33 | frojnd | I did. |
| 19:28.44 | itchi | frojnd: Anyway a trouble with your floppy |
| 19:28.45 | frojnd | But I think is's also associated here.. |
| 19:28.53 | frojnd | itchi: or u mean cd rom? |
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| 19:29.02 | itchi | frojnd: no, no |
| 19:29.02 | Flakk | itchi: sorry I just did not get what did you mean by s/driver/drive |
| 19:29.10 | Scurz | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=snurf.info : Why is there the message "Open DNS servers" ? How to solve this problem ? |
| 19:29.23 | frojnd | itchi: hm so I can just put out floppy ? |
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| 19:29.36 | itchi | Flakk: That's a regular expression, replace driver with drive. Cause i did a typo |
| 19:29.45 | frojnd | itchi: and if it will install floppy is the reason |
| 19:30.31 | itchi | frojnd: Is there a floppy in it right now? But anyway, i may not support ubuntu here, sorry mate. That Off Topic here man |
| 19:30.58 | frojnd | itchi: ok |
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| 19:32.31 | itchi | Flakk: We still not know which device you have :-p |
| 19:32.54 | FordCortina | what's the debian equivalent of apt-get install build-essential?? |
| 19:32.56 | itchi | Flakk: s/not/don't/ :p my first regular expression was not that right btw |
| 19:33.32 | itchi | FordCortina: Anyway, forget about apt-get, but learn aptitude. That's since some ages the recommended tool to install/manage packages |
| 19:33.34 | Flakk | itchi: neither do I. Th list seems strange. The new hard drive is 400 Gig, but no one of these partitions has 400 Gigs |
| 19:34.11 | FordCortina | ok so i use aptitude. is there a virtual package for common build tools? |
| 19:34.17 | itchi | Flakk: No worry about the partitions right now, first see that it is been detected be your kernel |
| 19:34.34 | Flakk | itchi how can I understand this? |
| 19:34.37 | Braindead | FordCortina: equivalent? equivalent to what? I mean what's the other thing? |
| 19:34.39 | itchi | Flakk: The HDD should be not a problem, but your SATA device |
| 19:34.47 | Flakk | yes i understand |
| 19:34.50 | itchi | I guessed aptitude :-p |
| 19:35.09 | itchi | A bit 'hard' to learn, but once you know ... |
| 19:35.13 | glasserc | I found http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/wanna-build-states and I've read it, but after a buildd admin changes a package's status to installed, then what happens? How does it get to the mirrors? |
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| 19:35.42 | FordCortina | Barindead. see my follow up. A virtual package that installs commonly use compilers and build tools |
| 19:35.57 | FordCortina | Braindead* |
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| 19:36.23 | Braindead | FordCortina: < FordCortina> what's the debian equivalent of apt-get install build-essential?? |
| 19:36.45 | jhiver_ | hi, what is the command to have the interactive curses network setup tool already? I know it's silly but i forgot =) |
| 19:37.03 | jhiver_ | i thought it was netconfig, but apparently this doesn't exist |
| 19:37.09 | Braindead | FordCortina: what's the X in the equation? what's the mysterious distro which also has "build-essential" ? |
| 19:37.43 | Flakk | itchi: what command should I use to know whether it is recognized? |
| 19:37.46 | FordCortina | does it matter? ubuntu ( am i about to start a fight here?) |
| 19:38.19 | Braindead | FordCortina: no, but it's rather trivial to check http://packages.debian.org/build-essential |
| 19:38.48 | jhiver_ | lads? you know, the horrible blue and red install screen which prompts you wether to use DHCP or static conf... i know it's trivial but even with googling for "debian network configuration" i can't find it |
| 19:39.38 | Flakk | itchi: ok, thank you very much for your help |
| 19:39.46 | FordCortina | Braindead: huh? wierd i tried installing that package but it claimed it didnt exist |
| 19:39.59 | FordCortina | anyhow thanks for you help |
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| 19:42.21 | xsdg | anyone know of a free solid modeler that doesn't suck too badly? (any OS, and it doesn't have to do joints or anything like that) |
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| 19:43.09 | itchi | xsdg: Blender? |
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| 19:44.47 | krang | Anyone what the package name for usb-serial support is under debian? All the aptitude searching in the world isn't finding it. |
| 19:44.59 | xsdg | itchi: hmm... I hadn't thought of that |
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| 19:47.15 | bzed | krang: you don;t need a package, it just works - if not, either your hardware jsut doesn;t work, or you need a new kernel |
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| 19:47.18 | krang | and dmesg doesn't show up my pl2303 chipset when I plug the device in |
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| 19:47.32 | krang | bzed: ah, dangit then. |
| 19:47.45 | Kevin` | modprobe pl2303 |
| 19:48.08 | grendal_prime | hey guys. I got an amd64 here turion its a laptop everything seems to be working on it but the video from a cd is ..all jankedy blocky and sounds skips..anyone had that sort of problem on 65 bit systems? |
| 19:48.14 | Kevin` | and, of course, you have usb-host support? |
| 19:48.21 | krang | Kevin`: not found |
| 19:48.32 | grendal_prime | i mena 64 bit systems by the way |
| 19:48.37 | Kevin` | well, not found would be a problem :) |
| 19:48.39 | krang | bzed: I'm using 2.6.15-28-386, that should support pl2303 shouldn't it? |
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| 19:49.17 | bzed | krang: no clue, but that sounds liek either an ubuntu kernel or a homegrown one |
| 19:49.32 | bzed | krang: so you should use debian and a debian kernel and then ask again |
| 19:49.43 | krang | bzed: oops, will do :-) |
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| 19:50.47 | itchi | grendal_prime: 3D is been working like expected? What about another player? |
| 19:51.11 | grendal_prime | vlc seems to be pretty stable bro. |
| 19:51.24 | grendal_prime | it works on the other machines as well. running vlc |
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| 19:51.39 | grendal_prime | w32's are installed..its just werid |
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| 19:52.19 | itchi | grendal_prime: With wich tool have you the problem? |
| 19:52.22 | ccesario | hello... where is the file of static routes ? |
| 19:53.45 | itchi | ccesario: /etc/networks ?? |
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| 19:54.13 | ccesario | itchi, I don't know :p |
| 19:54.36 | itchi | ccesario: Or mean you the /etc/resolv.conf ? Which release do you have? |
| 19:54.48 | itchi | I'm missing the /etc/resolv.conf on my testing box, heh |
| 19:55.08 | itchi | nah, a typo :-) |
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| 19:55.18 | grendal_prime | itchy vlc when i run dvds in it they are all blocky and stuff |
| 19:55.22 | fas3r | hello everybody |
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| 19:55.40 | itchi | grendal_prime: Is 3D been working at all? |
| 19:55.44 | itchi | fas3r: boe :-p |
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| 19:56.38 | grendal_prime | dont know if i have that working yet |
| 19:56.40 | fas3r | i need to create a radius (freeradius) with a vpn ( openvpn ) ... what the better .. install the freeradius or openvpn in first.. ? |
| 19:56.46 | jhiver_ | aargh i know it sounds silly but i need help with... network configuration =) |
| 19:56.47 | grendal_prime | does it need to be working for video to work? |
| 19:57.40 | jhiver_ | i have edited /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:57.41 | grendal_prime | also it is an nvidia video card |
| 19:58.02 | bzed | fas3r: define ' radius with a vpn' |
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| 19:58.13 | itchi | grendal_prime: I guess that your 3D is not working right now |
| 19:58.22 | jhiver_ | set iface eth0 inet static, then 'address', 'netmask' and 'gateway', rebooted the stuff and... still can't ping it |
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| 19:58.35 | fas3r | bzed: when i compil freeradius i specify in option i use vpn it's that ? |
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| 19:58.52 | itchi | jhiver_: Do you need static ip? |
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| 19:59.22 | jhiver_ | i have a 16 static ip subnetwork range |
| 19:59.26 | jhiver_ | and no dhcp server |
| 19:59.29 | bzed | fas3r: first you don;t compile it, you install it as package |
| 19:59.37 | fas3r | bzed: ok |
| 19:59.45 | TIBS01 | ello wots the command to defrag debian drive in bash |
| 19:59.56 | bzed | fas3r: and then you should explainwhat you want to do. a radius and a vpn are two totally different things, which can be combined in 12312312 ways |
| 19:59.57 | grendal_prime | itchi: how do i find out? |
| 20:00.02 | jhiver_ | is there no 'setup like' tool i can use? |
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| 20:00.15 | fas3r | bzed: ok |
| 20:00.17 | bzed | TIBS01: no need to defrag. |
| 20:00.20 | itchi | grendal_prime: Try with glxgears |
| 20:00.31 | TIBS01 | ok |
| 20:00.39 | TIBS01 | wot about freebsd does that need to defrag |
| 20:00.46 | fas3r | bzed: if you prefer i want to create a vpn when client connect in wifi |
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| 20:01.00 | itchi | jhiver_: http://pastebin.ca/667201 |
| 20:01.01 | fas3r | but i want to add 802.1x authentification |
| 20:01.15 | itchi | jhiver_: Sure, there are GUI tools, depend of the DE you may use |
| 20:01.18 | Spiritus55 | Hey all. |
| 20:01.53 | itchi | jhiver_: The last line is wrong, it should be the domain name and not mygatewayserverIP |
| 20:02.10 | jhiver_ | have you got a sample file i could copy and adapt? |
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| 20:02.38 | itchi | jhiver_: See the link i have paste ^ ;-) |
| 20:03.21 | jhiver_ | thx =) |
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| 20:03.45 | jhiver_ | that's great, i'll try this |
| 20:04.08 | bzed | fas3r: then you don;t need openvpn but wpa |
| 20:04.10 | itchi | jhiver_: Just modify the last line like i told. And sure, customize it heh |
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| 20:05.21 | Dexter_F | hi |
| 20:05.27 | fas3r | bzed: ok but it's not possible to use vpn with radius ? wpa it's just for key no ? |
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| 20:05.49 | jhiver_ | well i'm not really worried about DNS lookups, all i need right now is to be able to remotely ssh in =) |
| 20:05.55 | jhiver_ | let's see what it does |
| 20:06.10 | bzed | fas3r: you want to read about that before you try to install such things |
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| 20:06.27 | jhiver_ | yup, that did it |
| 20:06.30 | jhiver_ | cheers =) |
| 20:06.50 | Spiritus55 | What is a good bittorrent client for debian? |
| 20:06.53 | bzed | fas3r: either you want 802.1x or vpn, not both |
| 20:07.05 | fas3r | ha yes sorry radius create a tunnel it's not necessary to use other encapsulation |
| 20:07.21 | bzed | fas3r: you're talking bullshit. radius doesn;t create a tunnel. |
| 20:07.31 | fas3r | ^^ |
| 20:08.06 | Dexter_F | is www.debian-multimedia.org officially supported? if not, what's the recommended way to add cutting edge multimedia apps? (including codecs and a certain dvd related lib) |
| 20:08.24 | bzed | fas3r: go to wikipedia and read about radius, (open)vpn, wpa, 802.1x. THen decide what you want |
| 20:08.28 | Braindead | well, being extremely paranoid you can still 802.1x + VPN on it. still he doesn't have the slightest clue,however |
| 20:08.41 | bzed | Dexter_F: no, that's nothing official (but it works well ussually) |
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| 20:09.18 | Dexter_F | will do I guess. just testing anyway, no production machine. |
| 20:09.32 | bzed | Braindead: you could use a cable :P |
| 20:09.47 | fas3r | bzed: sorry but i have read an how to where they use freeradius and Ipsec .. ipsec it's vpn no ? |
| 20:09.48 | Braindead | bzed: guarded by an armed ruthless ex-cop |
| 20:10.21 | Spiritus55 | Hey, you guys know of a good bittorrent client for debian? |
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| 20:10.59 | petemc | Spiritus55: utorrent works with wine |
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| 20:11.35 | Dexter_F | Spiritus55: gui or console? |
| 20:11.43 | Spiritus55 | gui |
| 20:11.48 | fas3r | bzed: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/245 |
| 20:11.55 | Dexter_F | ktorrent does nicely here. |
| 20:11.56 | mbroeker | petemc, ktorrent seems quite good |
| 20:12.10 | bzed | fas3r: is this tutorial talking about wifi? |
| 20:12.10 | petemc | aye, its not bad |
| 20:12.13 | bzed | fas3r: no? |
| 20:12.14 | Dexter_F | integrated search, IP blcklist... |
| 20:12.16 | mbroeker | wine is only useful for killer apps |
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| 20:12.27 | bzed | fas3r: go and read wikipedia. |
| 20:12.33 | petemc | mbroeker: thats a matter of opinion |
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| 20:13.29 | itchi | petemc: rtorrent is nice |
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| 20:13.43 | petemc | i would agree with that |
| 20:13.49 | bzed | fas3r: afaik is the only proper way to do 802.1x in host mode hostapd and madwifi (as in you need an atheros card) |
| 20:13.49 | itchi | Spiritus55: ^^ |
| 20:14.00 | itchi | I shooted the nick :-s |
| 20:14.08 | Spiritus55 | rtorrent? |
| 20:14.16 | itchi | Spiritus55: Try it out ;-) |
| 20:14.23 | Spiritus55 | For linux? |
| 20:14.26 | fas3r | bzed: i have an AP |
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| 20:14.31 | itchi | Spiritus55: Sure, it is in cli |
| 20:14.47 | bzed | fas3r: just use what your AP provides then, and be happy |
| 20:14.48 | itchi | GUI sucks :-p |
| 20:14.52 | petemc | the torrent client that finds kernel bugs |
| 20:14.58 | itchi | oh |
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| 20:15.12 | petemc | thats no bad thing |
| 20:15.12 | Alysum | Hello what do you use to read .ram ? |
| 20:15.23 | tim_flatus | Alysum, realplayer |
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| 20:15.50 | Braindead | Spiritus55: I also suggest rtorrent: highly configurable but a bit steep on the usabilty curve of learning. a bit of RTFM and a look at the config file and you'll be conquered |
| 20:15.57 | fas3r | bzed: at my work i use radius authent with vpn and pki .. i don't think it's problem to use vpn with wifi radius .... |
| 20:16.01 | Alysum | I have an AMD64 CPU so I cannot use Real player |
| 20:16.07 | itchi | Anyway rtorrent is TUI, not that hard at all |
| 20:16.12 | Alysum | mplayer seems buggy |
| 20:16.20 | Spiritus55 | Braindead: alright, I'll look at it. |
| 20:16.27 | Dexter_F | Alysum: vlc? xine? proper codecs installed? |
| 20:16.36 | h3sp4wn | fas3r: what card are you trying to use ? |
| 20:16.38 | itchi | Alysum: Use vlc ;-) |
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| 20:16.44 | mbroeker | uhh i have a wine problem right now: my active x plugin for wine depends on seamonkey mozilla browser and this browser(under wine) wants to update to firefox. do anybody know whether firefox can handle active x too with the Mozactive plugin? |
| 20:16.44 | Alysum | vlc doesnt work |
| 20:16.49 | Alysum | which is odd |
| 20:16.52 | tim_flatus | Alysum, no 64bit version? I don't suppose helixplayer. Nothing else will touch .rams AFAIK |
| 20:17.00 | Spiritus55 | Wait, is rtorrent a gui? |
| 20:17.02 | itchi | mbroeker: Why do you use wine? |
| 20:17.02 | bzed | fas3r: you don;t have a cheap AP at work but probably something for $1000 from cisco |
| 20:17.07 | itchi | Spiritus55: TUI |
| 20:17.10 | mbroeker | itchi, steam! |
| 20:17.12 | Spiritus55 | TUI? |
| 20:17.13 | itchi | Spiritus55: ncurse bassed |
| 20:17.15 | Alysum | what codecs are needed to make it work with VLC ? |
| 20:17.19 | fas3r | bzed: for connect to my radius server ? |
| 20:17.20 | h3sp4wn | xine can play .ram (with the codecs from 64 bit realplayer) |
| 20:17.24 | Spiritus55 | !ncurse |
| 20:17.32 | petemc | text |
| 20:17.38 | Alysum | there is no 64 bit real player... |
| 20:17.42 | tim_flatus | h3sp4wn, educated. Thanks. |
| 20:17.50 | Alysum | the official .deb is 32mb |
| 20:17.53 | itchi | Alysum: My big guess is w32codecs if you need some |
| 20:17.53 | fas3r | i use intel card |
| 20:17.58 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: From the xp64 realplayer |
| 20:18.03 | bzed | fas3r: not sure if your AP is capable to do that - but you still don;t need a vpn to do so, you can add one, but wpa with radius should be more than enough |
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| 20:18.17 | Alysum | yeah I installed w32codecs |
| 20:18.19 | bzed | fas3r: for you at home more than WPA with PSK is the total overkill |
| 20:18.21 | Alysum | VLC still wont read it |
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| 20:18.32 | Alysum | the .ram is a live radiochannel btw |
| 20:18.34 | itchi | Alysum: Give more details |
| 20:18.35 | h3sp4wn | fas3r: You could try the mac80211 intel driver |
| 20:18.46 | tim_flatus | itchi, you sure about w32codecs for .ram? |
| 20:18.46 | h3sp4wn | fas3r: with cvs hostapd (devicescape driver) |
| 20:18.49 | fas3r | bzed: i think it's shoulb be more but i want to learn ^^ |
| 20:18.56 | Alysum | well I drag and drop the .ram it starts to play it for second then stops |
| 20:18.59 | fas3r | it's for windows client not linux client |
| 20:19.04 | Alysum | I never get any sound tho |
| 20:19.16 | h3sp4wn | fas3r: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=mac80211 |
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| 20:19.58 | Alysum | wish VLC had a debug mode |
| 20:20.07 | itchi | tim_flatus: Not for that filetype |
| 20:20.22 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: just use mplayer download the .ram |
| 20:20.25 | petemc | Alysum: theres a messages window |
| 20:20.29 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: then cat it |
| 20:20.37 | Alysum | mplayer is buggy I get error msgs |
| 20:20.38 | itchi | Wait, i'm missing vlc here on this box :-s Seems not to be available, i can not believe it |
| 20:20.59 | bzed | fas3r: go and read on wikipedia about the different things before you;re trying to set them up |
| 20:21.12 | fas3r | ok |
| 20:21.16 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: I think it unlikely that these packages only don't work for you |
| 20:21.19 | fas3r | thank for your help ;) |
| 20:21.20 | ampex | Has anyone successfully booted from SD card? |
| 20:21.25 | Alysum | access_file warning: rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_int_g2.ra?BBC-UID=54864c8afc311b8e61cbf5e7f03051dafe978cd5206060d39b9ae076534bebc5&SSO2-UID=: No such file or directory |
| 20:21.25 | Alysum | cdda warning: could not open rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_int_g2.ra?BBC-UID=54864c8afc311b8e61cbf5e7f03051dafe978cd5206060d39b9ae076534bebc5&SSO2-UID= |
| 20:21.25 | Alysum | main warning: no access2 module matching "rtsp" could be loaded |
| 20:21.25 | Alysum | main error: no suitable access module for `rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_int_g2.ra?BBC-UID=54864c8afc311b8e61cbf5e7f03051dafe978cd5206060d39b9ae076534bebc5&SSO2-UID=' |
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| 20:21.37 | eeyore- | fas3r: you just want to install the coolest toy just for the sake of it? :-) |
| 20:21.42 | itchi | What a mess :-p |
| 20:21.57 | Spiritus55 | Well, I'm just gonna stick with utorrent. |
| 20:22.00 | Spiritus55 | I got it running. |
| 20:22.09 | Spiritus55 | With wine* |
| 20:22.16 | itchi | Spiritus55: nah, try rtorrent ;-) |
| 20:22.18 | eeyore- | ampex: you mean directly off some USB card reader? |
| 20:22.19 | fas3r | eeyore-: yes just for play |
| 20:22.28 | itchi | Alysum: You are kicked, you need to rejoin |
| 20:22.30 | Spiritus55 | itchi: yeah, I'll check it out. |
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| 20:22.48 | eeyore- | fas3r: don't see why ... if you want something stable, why not get WRT54GL (or some such) and load it with dd-wrt or some other alternative firmware? |
| 20:22.49 | Alysum | sry |
| 20:22.58 | Alysum | VLC messages says |
| 20:22.58 | Alysum | main warning: no access_demux module matching "rtsp" could be loaded |
| 20:23.14 | itchi | Alysum: Pastebin the stuff, but no here ;-) |
| 20:23.18 | Alysum | no suitable access module for `rtsp:/.......... |
| 20:23.27 | tim_flatus | Alysum, tut tut. Your soft can't deal with rtsp protocol either. |
| 20:23.39 | fas3r | eeyore-: i have the DWL-2100AP |
| 20:23.40 | Alysum | VLC doesnt deal with rtsp ? |
| 20:23.43 | h3sp4wn | mplayer can play radio4 perfectly for me |
| 20:23.48 | h3sp4wn | (on 64 bit no codes) |
| 20:23.53 | Alysum | there is an option to play rtsp in VLC |
| 20:24.17 | tim_flatus | h3sp4wn, really? I gave up listening ages ago because I got fed up with trying to use realplayer |
| 20:24.18 | itchi | Have a nice night guys! |
| 20:24.19 | Alysum | h3sp4wn: mplayer works but only after getting error messages and waiting 30 secs |
| 20:24.33 | ampex | I've been considering building a NAS device using this for the OS (Debian): http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/adidesd.asp |
| 20:24.35 | ampex | Any thoughts? |
| 20:24.39 | Spiritus55 | Hey, what is the command to show all the process running? |
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| 20:24.53 | h3sp4wn | tim_flatus: just get the .ram and use - mplayer <content of the .ram file> |
| 20:24.53 | Spiritus55 | processes* |
| 20:24.53 | Alysum | Spiritus55: ps |
| 20:24.54 | eeyore- | ampex: d-link d200 |
| 20:25.04 | nwidger | does anyone know of a way to start a command, but have its output sent to a specific tty? |
| 20:25.09 | mbroeker | Spiritus55, strg alt entf under kde ... or ps aux |
| 20:25.25 | tim_flatus | h3sp4wn, thanks. ;) |
| 20:25.25 | chlue | Alysum: can you post a link to the ram-file, so i can look what it does here? |
| 20:25.26 | mbroeker | ups its del in english |
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| 20:25.39 | eeyore- | ampex: that stuff is fine --- it'll look just like IDE device then, but then you have to customize your distro to not write to disks and stuff, or, you can just load your own stuff on the D200 |
| 20:25.56 | Spiritus55 | And the command to kill a ps program? |
| 20:26.01 | ampex | I can't find anything on google about a d-link d200 |
| 20:26.12 | ampex | eeyore-: do you mean dns-323 ? |
| 20:26.16 | eeyore- | ampex: i mean linksys N200 :-)))) |
| 20:26.17 | Spiritus55 | *program found running in ps aux? |
| 20:26.20 | mbroeker | Spiritus55, enter "top" on the konsole and press "h" |
| 20:26.35 | Alysum | mplayer freezes for 20 secs with err msg "demux_real invalid chunksize" then it works |
| 20:26.36 | h3sp4wn | Spiritus55: you could use pgrep and pkill |
| 20:26.39 | ampex | eeyore-: I want RAID, 4-5 disks and decent performance :) |
| 20:26.53 | Alysum | e.g. radio http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/realaudio/media/r1live.ram |
| 20:26.54 | Spiritus55 | pkill <process ID>? |
| 20:26.55 | ampex | what sorts of things does debian write to disk that I can avoid? |
| 20:26.59 | eeyore- | ampex: eh .... |
| 20:27.10 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: Did you pay any attention to what I just said ? |
| 20:27.29 | Alysum | h3sp4wn: yeah mate |
| 20:27.36 | Alysum | and I answered |
| 20:27.39 | eeyore- | ampex: ok for starter you wouldn't be running "debian" per se ... you'd be using debian to build your required stuff (mostly busybox), and set up at boot time so that /etc and /var are ramdisks |
| 20:27.43 | mbroeker | does anybody use postfix here with saslautd? |
| 20:27.50 | eeyore- | ampex: once you can do that you're 90% there |
| 20:28.35 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: mplayer 'rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra?BBC-UID=34869cec496c435ca7d7ae235090c968cccb07a908030d3ab1aa0fbd2b85a91_n&SSO2-UID=' |
| 20:28.37 | eeyore- | ampex: you wouldn't want the whole debian stuff because that's just too much :-p you'd want just the binaries, and the all-important /linuxrc to get things started |
| 20:28.43 | mbroeker | i am little bit confused: smtp.conf is missing and i can install it either in /etc/, /etc/postfix or /var/spool/postfix/etc ( chroot home ) |
| 20:28.49 | h3sp4wn | works flawlessly for me |
| 20:29.04 | h3sp4wn | maybe try the debian-multimedia mplayer if you are not using it already |
| 20:30.17 | Alysum | yeah that command works, tho my dad would prefer a GUI lol |
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| 20:31.13 | eeyore- | ampex: i'm looking to build (as inexpensively as possible) an array for my mythtv system ... i'm going between eSATA 4-port box (sans digital) or icydock or something else internal (requiring another computer because my mythbox doesn't have any suitable internal expansion :-p) |
| 20:31.31 | eeyore- | too bad my moneytree is still a seedling |
| 20:32.12 | Alysum | why cant I do mplayer file.ram ? |
| 20:32.17 | ampex | eeyore-: if size isn't a problem (2-4GB SD card), then why not full debian? |
| 20:32.30 | xjkx | Alysum: because you are missing some plugin |
| 20:32.39 | Alysum | any idea which one I need ? |
| 20:33.08 | xjkx | ops, i meant codec, and no, no idea |
| 20:33.09 | eeyore- | ampex: it goes against the whole embedded mindset ... and you're still importing all kinds of stuff meant to make life easier for *desktops* (or server) not for embedded where you know every single aspect of your environment |
| 20:33.12 | Spiritus55 | What's a good p2p client for debian? |
| 20:33.21 | eeyore- | ampex: e.g., you can cut down on a lot of stuff you know you aren't gonna need |
| 20:33.40 | xjkx | Alysum: do you have win32 codecs? |
| 20:34.07 | Alysum | err Im on ubuntu not windows ?! |
| 20:34.09 | ampex | eeyore-: http://www.addonics.com/products/raid_system/mst4.asp |
| 20:34.37 | h3sp4wn | Alysum: If you are using ubuntu go to #ubuntu and stop wasting our time |
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| 20:34.58 | h3sp4wn | !ubuntu |
| 20:34.58 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is <based on debian>. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net - See also <based on debian caveats>. |
| 20:35.12 | Spiritus55 | What's a good p2p client for debian? |
| 20:35.30 | jorgp | rtorrent |
| 20:35.32 | pickcoder | Spiritus55: aptitude search p2p |
| 20:35.42 | Braindead | Spiritus55: the only p2p protocol that makes sense is bittorrent. hence rtorrent |
| 20:35.43 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: For torrent I like Ktorrent. For the Donkey protocol or whatever I like aMule. |
| 20:35.43 | Alysum | d'oh |
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| 20:35.51 | Alysum | ubuntu debian is the same :) |
| 20:36.02 | JordiGH | "ubuntu debian"? |
| 20:36.08 | Spiritus55 | I really want one with a GUI. |
| 20:36.10 | h3sp4wn | ubuntu is not debian |
| 20:36.14 | Spiritus55 | *a torrent client |
| 20:36.19 | Alysum | people on #ubuntu are dickheads anyway |
| 20:36.20 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Ktorrent, then. |
| 20:36.26 | Spiritus55 | Ok. |
| 20:36.29 | Braindead | Alysum: tough shit. live with it |
| 20:36.51 | Spiritus55 | It's for KDE. |
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| 20:36.53 | Spiritus55 | I have GNOME. |
| 20:37.00 | Spiritus55 | Is it cross compatible? |
| 20:37.02 | Spiritus55 | Ktorrent* |
| 20:37.02 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: It doesn't matter. It'll drag a few libraries with it, but not too many. |
| 20:37.07 | Spiritus55 | Alright. |
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| 20:37.25 | mbroeker | Spiritus55, http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftLinuxDeb |
| 20:37.39 | Spiritus55 | If I were to get limewire, I'd get pro. |
| 20:37.42 | Braindead | Spiritus55: deluge |
| 20:37.45 | JordiGH | Limewire isn't free, is it? |
| 20:37.47 | Spiritus55 | But, they took the fake activation email off. |
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| 20:38.00 | Spiritus55 | So, I can't fake the "Already bought pro?" part of the download... |
| 20:38.05 | streuner_ | JordiGH: java crap! |
| 20:38.15 | streuner_ | !info limewire |
| 20:38.30 | streuner_ | dpkg> Package 'limewire' does not exist. |
| 20:38.38 | h3sp4wn | There is a GPL version of it I forget its name |
| 20:38.47 | krazykit | frostwire |
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| 20:38.51 | Braindead | !info deluge-torrent |
| 20:38.53 | dpkg | deluge-torrent: (A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK), section net, is optional. Version: 0.5.4.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3038 kB, Installed size: 10612 kB |
| 20:38.54 | JordiGH | Bah, I get everything I need from Pirate Bay or aMule for books. :-) |
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| 20:39.19 | Spiritus55 | Oh, yeah, forgot about good ol' pirate bay. |
| 20:39.23 | ampex | rtorrent |
| 20:39.27 | ampex | is the way to go |
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| 20:39.35 | Spiritus55 | Should I just get the source code? |
| 20:39.36 | Braindead | suprnova.org is back, BTW. THIEVES! ,o_ |
| 20:39.46 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: What source code? |
| 20:39.53 | Spiritus55 | For Ktorrent. |
| 20:39.56 | gnubie | running etch amd64 and want to not load sndoss, /etc/modules does not have them, where are they getting loaded? |
| 20:39.59 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: What for? |
| 20:40.07 | Spiritus55 | ? |
| 20:40.13 | Spiritus55 | What do you mean? |
| 20:40.14 | Braindead | ?\n XD |
| 20:40.16 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Why do you want Ktorrent's source? |
| 20:40.19 | Spiritus55 | Because I'm getting Ktorrent. |
| 20:40.29 | Spiritus55 | I'm really new to linux (2 days now). |
| 20:40.31 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: "aptitude install ktorrent" and be enlightened. |
| 20:40.36 | Spiritus55 | Ok. |
| 20:40.41 | Spiritus55 | or apt-get? |
| 20:40.43 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: You don't need its source unless you want to hack it yourself. |
| 20:40.50 | Spiritus55 | Oh, right. |
| 20:41.03 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: apt-get is slowly being deprecated in favour of aptitude. If you're using etch or later, aptitude is preferrable. |
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| 20:41.35 | Spiritus55 | JordiGH: alright thanks. |
| 20:41.57 | Spiritus55 | JordiGH: Where will that download to, or where are the download locations for aptitude? |
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| 20:42.07 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: It's magic. Don't concern yourself with it. ;-) |
| 20:42.20 | Spiritus55 | JordiGH: Don't I need to know? |
| 20:42.25 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Once it's downloaded, it'll show up in your menus and you can open a terminal and type "ktorrent" and have the client run. |
| 20:42.44 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: No. You don't really need to know where aptitude puts stuff. It's actually kinda complicated and very unlike Windows. |
| 20:42.51 | Spiritus55 | JordiGH: But, shouldn't I know where stuff is downloaded to? |
| 20:43.06 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Oh, where ktorrent itself will download stuff? It'll ask you where it'll put it. |
| 20:43.26 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Where aptitude downloads stuff is not something you need to concern yourself with. Just be content that it's installed and it works. |
| 20:43.34 | Spiritus55 | JordiGH: And then I tell it? (if it's a music file for instance '/home/music'? |
| 20:43.45 | JordiGH | Spiritus55: Well, /home/spiritus55/music, yeah. |
| 20:43.46 | Braindead | he needs some !ground |
| 20:43.52 | Spiritus55 | Oh, right. |
| 20:44.05 | ampex | !ground |
| 20:44.07 | Braindead | !tell Spiritus55 about grounding |
| 20:44.20 | ampex | !tell ampex about grounding |
| 20:44.26 | Braindead | !tell sc about refcard |
| 20:44.48 | JordiGH | luncthime, bbl. |
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| 20:45.07 | Braindead | whoops |
| 20:45.12 | Braindead | !tell Spiritus55 about refcard |
| 20:46.28 | Spiritus55 | Alright, how do I uninstall a program? |
| 20:46.37 | Spiritus55 | Such as utorrent. |
| 20:46.40 | Spiritus55 | As an example. |
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| 20:47.49 | Braindead | Spiritus55: by reading the fine documentation a little, as an example |
| 20:48.20 | Spiritus55 | Could you tell me about this fine documentation, and where to find it? |
| 20:48.27 | Spiritus55 | Is that the refcard you just gave me? |
| 20:48.27 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, he means: man aptitude |
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| 20:49.40 | Spiritus55 | I didn't use aptitude to install it. |
| 20:49.43 | Braindead | Spiritus55: you installed utorrent under wine, so it's in its fine directory on your home. |
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| 20:50.41 | fixpost | I'm trying to make an ssl certificate for my server, but I can't find the apache2-ssl-certificate script that all the tutorials mention |
| 20:50.53 | Spiritus55 | Where is wine installed? |
| 20:50.57 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, It doesn't actually matter, but: man apt-get if you prefer ... |
| 20:50.59 | fixpost | where can I get it? it isn't in my path, cant locate it with find, and nothing in my apt-cache search |
| 20:51.37 | Braindead | Spiritus55: nope. utorrent was installed by wine in your home directory (probably) |
| 20:51.47 | Spiritus55 | It's not in my home directory. |
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| 20:52.21 | Spiritus55 | '/home/spiritus55' And there is no wine in there. |
| 20:52.35 | Braindead | Spiritus55: I strongly suggest you stop and read some reference material. the whole "shall I get the source" kinda reveal you're missing the basics. get the basics then think about downloading pr0n on P2P networks. kplsthnxbye |
| 20:53.06 | Spiritus55 | Braindead: actually wasn't gonna download 'pr0n', just music. |
| 20:53.35 | Braindead | ok. stealing music shouldn't be a priority right now. getting to know linux should |
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| 20:55.07 | Dexter_F | kanagram 4:3.5.5-1 -- what does that 4: in deb packages mean anyway? |
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| 20:55.55 | yetifoot | i think the ktorrent in etch has some issues, i had to get the one from the ktorrent website when i wanted to do a torrent |
| 20:57.22 | fixpost | can someone help me figure out how to generate an apache2 ssl cert? I've done it before following tutorials, but now I can't find the apache2-ssl-certificate script that generates certs |
| 20:57.33 | bzed | Dexter_F: that's the epoch of the version. you need it if upstream messes with version numbers. like using 20070815-style versions for some time and switching to 1.0 after that, and then using 0.2.0 or other weird stuff, which is smaller than the last version number |
| 20:58.35 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ you'll have to use your own spoon. :) |
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| 20:59.07 | Braindead | tim_flatus: and he describes himself as |
| 20:59.09 | Braindead | A 35 year old male model. |
| 20:59.19 | Braindead | well actually ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO3cA_YBNMI |
| 20:59.27 | fixpost | spiritus55: being new on linux is hard, remember, google is your friend, and taking more time that you want to understanding the basics really pays off |
| 20:59.28 | tim_flatus | Braindead, ;) |
| 20:59.41 | dkr | fixpost: hrm, I was just looking for soemthign similar, apaprently there was also a "mod-ssl-makecert" |
| 20:59.42 | Spiritus55 | fixpost: yeah, thanks. |
| 21:00.34 | fixpost | AH! mod-ssl-makecert, is the apache2-ssl-certificate depricated at this point or what? |
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| 21:01.22 | scrip | jordiGH: what else is there? the "just install exchange" school of thought? |
| 21:02.00 | JordiGH | scrip: Get a friend to help you when you start out, manage to do the "basic" tasks that you want to do, start rtfming later once basic tasks can be easily accomplished. |
| 21:02.23 | JordiGH | I mean, you guys could have just said "aptitude remove progname" instead of saying "man aptitude". |
| 21:02.24 | Braindead | JordiGH: there's a thin line between "Reading The Fine Manual, all of it" and "Getting a minimal clue before trying something new" |
| 21:02.47 | Braindead | JordiGH: a program installed under wine, by the way. because he didn't know better. |
| 21:02.52 | JordiGH | Braindead: Right, I prefer to get my minimal clues from people than manuals. And I prefer to give them too. |
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| 21:03.11 | JordiGH | Braindead: Yeah, I saw that. But just talking in general. |
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| 21:03.23 | JordiGH | Newbies aren't second-class users. They're the lifeblood of Debian. |
| 21:03.25 | scrip | ok, wait, I still can't find these ssl generation scripts |
| 21:03.34 | Braindead | JordiGH: that's spoonfeeding. wanna spoonfeed? help yourself, you can also do the flying airplane or the train |
| 21:03.44 | yetifoot | i have a spoon |
| 21:03.54 | Braindead | my spoooooooon is toooo big |
| 21:03.57 | JordiGH | Braindead: *shrug* Ubuntu doesn't spoonfeed, does it? |
| 21:04.05 | scrip | so, do I need extra repositories? I'm just using main |
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| 21:04.20 | scrip | cryptography is one of those things thats sometimes in a seperate repo, right? |
| 21:04.32 | Braindead | JordiGH: should I care about Ubuntu? |
| 21:04.38 | JordiGH | scrip: Not anymore. It used to be due to US export restrictions. |
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| 21:04.47 | JordiGH | Braindead: Yes, you should. It's the closest most people get to Debian. |
| 21:04.58 | fujihc | exit |
| 21:05.14 | Braindead | JordiGH: yeah. and then they come here "because it's debian after all" and because "they couldn't help me on #ubuntu" |
| 21:05.33 | scrip | so, I can't find anything to generate an ssl certificate on my server or in my apt repos, what package actually gives me apache2-ssl-certificate or mod-ssl-makecert? |
| 21:05.40 | JordiGH | Braindead: My point was more about that not everything that Ubuntu does is a bad idea. Such as being friendly to newbies. |
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| 21:06.21 | tim_flatus | JordiGH, I don't actually use aptitude, so I didn't know the commands |
| 21:06.22 | JordiGH | !info apache-ssl |
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| 21:06.52 | Braindead | JordiGH: debian, ubuntu, whatever-linux. they all have a little documentation, a reference card or an introduction. newbies should also read it |
| 21:07.11 | JordiGH | Wtf? Did apache-ssl get removed from unstable? It's in my testing branch. |
| 21:07.33 | Braindead | and I underline "little", a little bunch of information that should sound like "no, this is not windows". I gave him |
| 21:08.03 | abrotman | JordiGH: apache or apache2 ? |
| 21:08.24 | Braindead | and yes, he's so cuuuuuuute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8juclSriEw |
| 21:08.40 | helo | haha... poor linus needs to try debian again |
| 21:08.43 | JordiGH | abrotman: apache-ssl, which is what I think scrip wants. |
| 21:08.43 | lynucs_ | hey if there wouldn't be ubuntu 3 years ago, i would probably use suse and then switch back to windows.. and by using ubuntu, i know out of which distribution it came, and will stick to debian all the time :P |
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| 21:09.01 | yetifoot | helo, why's that, did he have a bad time? |
| 21:09.22 | helo | "Funnily enough, the only distributions I tend to refuse to touch are the "technical" ones, so I've never run Debian, because as far as I'm concerned, the whole and only point of a distribution is to make it easy to install (so that I can then get to the part I care about, namely the kernel), so Debian or one of the "compile everything by hand" ones simply weren't interesting to me." --linus |
| 21:09.50 | lynucs_ | helo, i think you mean gentoo |
| 21:09.52 | lynucs_ | :D |
| 21:09.58 | JordiGH | Funnily enough, I first installed Debian because I thought it was a noob distro since it didn't require me to compile stuff. |
| 21:10.07 | JordiGH | Never looked back. :-) |
| 21:10.19 | helo | hehe |
| 21:10.34 | tim_flatus | JordiGH, actually point taken. I reccomend it for newbies for the same reason. |
| 21:10.35 | helo | i tried debian because i got tired of redhat package dependency resolution headaches |
| 21:10.38 | dondelelcaro | yeah, it's not terribly unusual for people not to use Debian because of fear |
| 21:10.57 | JordiGH | abrotman: I don't know what's going on. I guess I could dig around, but apache-ssl is seemingly only in testing, and I don't know what the equivalent apache2 package would be. |
| 21:10.59 | dondelelcaro | not really worth worrying about, anyway |
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| 21:11.34 | _2intense | Hello debian :) |
| 21:11.40 | JordiGH | !greet _2intense |
| 21:11.40 | dpkg | Nihao, _2intense |
| 21:11.56 | dondelelcaro | JordiGH: it's actually already built into apache2 |
| 21:11.57 | _2intense | lol dpkg! |
| 21:12.11 | _2intense | are you the real dpkg? can I query you? :P |
| 21:12.26 | JordiGH | dondelelcaro: Hm. Then I wonder why scrip is having issues getting ssl working. |
| 21:12.29 | abrotman | JordiGH: what script ? |
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| 21:12.38 | JordiGH | Not script. scrip. The chatter. :-) |
| 21:12.41 | mbroeker | !tell _2intense ask |
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| 21:12.54 | abrotman | oh |
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| 21:13.20 | scrip | yeah, so, I don't want apache-ssl because thats apache1 |
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| 21:13.29 | Dexter_F | doesn't etch announce its dhcp-hostname to the dhcp server? |
| 21:13.48 | h3sp4wn | Dexter_F: It can |
| 21:14.00 | Dexter_F | but won't by default? |
| 21:14.11 | scrip | scrip: and apt-cache search apache2 ssl gives me nothing but the apache2 stuff I already have installed, I have the ssl module installed |
| 21:14.15 | mbroeker | scrip, look in /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.* |
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| 21:14.35 | scrip | mbroeker: yeah, ssl IS installed, but I can't find the damn scripts that are supposed to build a cert |
| 21:14.36 | h3sp4wn | Dexter_F: no - see /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 21:14.55 | yetifoot | helo, that is quite interesting, i was scared off a little by talk of debian being complex at first, but i started at sarge, and i found it really easy to install, and obviously the package system made that side really easy for me too |
| 21:15.07 | mbroeker | scrip, do you want to have a script from me? |
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| 21:15.11 | dkr | well, you can make an ssl cert with the right openssl options, right? |
| 21:15.20 | h3sp4wn | Dexter_F: send host-name "andare.fugue.com"; (edit an uncomment that line) |
| 21:15.38 | Dexter_F | h3sp4wn: thanks |
| 21:15.57 | dkr | I actually made my last ssl cert from apache source tree, I think, "make certificate" heh |
| 21:16.22 | h3sp4wn | Dexter_F: (if you are not using that client then use dhcp3-client) |
| 21:16.31 | scrip | mbroeker: yes, or at least a package name or path to look for it |
| 21:16.34 | dkr | I just installed gforge and it wants me to make an ssl cert for it, too |
| 21:16.36 | _2intense | lads has anyone installed Debian on a Sparc system lately? It was my speciality years ago but I'm right rusty at present |
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| 21:16.47 | thelostbutler | hello folks i get the error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r when i try to compile python-mysql can some please tell me what i am missing. i am have a local compiled installation of mysql 5 |
| 21:17.10 | JordiGH | thelostbutler: Done "apt-get build-dep mysql5" or whatever? |
| 21:17.21 | abrotman | scrip: make-ssl-cert |
| 21:17.26 | h3sp4wn | He needs to link against his version of mysql |
| 21:17.44 | h3sp4wn | build-dep won't help |
| 21:17.59 | h3sp4wn | thelostbutler: ask #mysql (or set LDFLAGS properly) |
| 21:18.06 | thelostbutler | JordiGH: i am using sarge . hence a local compiled version of mysql 5 |
| 21:18.14 | Dexter_F | h3sp4wn: dunno, im going with etch's default |
| 21:18.24 | scrip | abrotman: w00t! I have that one! |
| 21:18.39 | h3sp4wn | Dexter_F: I don't know what etch's default is |
| 21:18.45 | abrotman | scrip: is that two numbers in there? |
| 21:18.46 | scrip | why did I find so many references to the mod-ssl-makecert and apache2-ssl-certificate scripts? are those old names for the same thing? |
| 21:19.08 | scrip | abrotman: huh? |
| 21:19.16 | abrotman | scrip: those are old programs that don't exist anymore |
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| 21:19.49 | scrip | ah, thanks, I guess google is only my friend when I'm more specific about versions |
| 21:20.05 | dkr | thanks, saves me the hassle of getting these openssl options right, also. (just installed gforge and it wants its own cert) |
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| 21:20.15 | Dexter_F | bzed: ah, thanks for the epoch thing. riddled me for ages :) |
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| 21:20.34 | thelostbutler | h3sp4wn: i added /usr/local/mysql /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig -v to make sure . i doubt if i need to add the sub directory but did it anyway. haven't gotten much help in #mysql :( |
| 21:20.37 | bzed | Dexter_F: you're welcome |
| 21:21.12 | mbroeker | scrip, ok, i translated the main part of it in english: http://rafb.net/p/lycJd072.html |
| 21:21.12 | mnvl | what's the default terminal email client, instead of pine?/ |
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| 21:21.25 | mnvl | gerbil, chipmunk, smth like that?? |
| 21:21.37 | linux_jones | so i have this problem, where every time gdm tries to load (or maybe its x, im not sure) my computer crashes, the keyboard doesnt work so i cant alt+backspace out of it |
| 21:21.45 | Braindead | mnvl: mutt |
| 21:21.57 | mnvl | Braindead: oh ok thx |
| 21:22.03 | mnvl | thought it was something else |
| 21:22.14 | h3sp4wn | thelostbutler: do you have libmysqlclient_r.{so,a} ? |
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| 21:22.22 | _2intense | linux_jones: don't load gdm then LOL |
| 21:22.41 | linux_jones | _2intense: well i need something, anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:23.02 | _2intense | linux_jones: is there anything in the logs? xorg? |
| 21:23.25 | linux_jones | _2intense nope |
| 21:23.26 | _2intense | at least you need to know it it's X or GDM crashing |
| 21:23.34 | _2intense | have you tried XDM? |
| 21:23.51 | _2intense | at least you'll rule out if it's gdm or C |
| 21:23.53 | _2intense | X sory |
| 21:23.58 | linux_jones | theres nothing in the x log anyway, i dont know where the gdm log is, |
| 21:24.04 | linux_jones | how do i change it to xdm? |
| 21:24.24 | _2intense | apt-get it and there's an update-alternatives you can run |
| 21:24.36 | _2intense | or at least there was LOL |
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| 21:25.07 | linux_jones | where is the gdm log? |
| 21:25.38 | linux_jones | found it |
| 21:25.39 | _2intense | Change the directory containing the GDM log files to the /var/log hierarchy by creating a directory and modifying the /etc/gnome/2.14.3/gdm/custom.conf ... |
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| 21:26.04 | _2intense | great, that was a snippet from the site ;) |
| 21:26.24 | _2intense | I've never seen GDM crash before but you never know |
| 21:26.36 | _2intense | does vanilla startx work? |
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| 21:26.53 | drewh | greeting...does anyone have any experience w/ reprepro? |
| 21:26.56 | linux_jones | type "vanilla startx"? |
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| 21:27.06 | _2intense | erm no |
| 21:27.09 | _2intense | startx |
| 21:27.28 | linux_jones | i have not tried that, but just plain old X does not work |
| 21:28.01 | _2intense | hmm |
| 21:28.25 | linux_jones | theres a warning in the gdm log that says, radeon, no matching device section for instance (busid pci:1:0:1) found |
| 21:28.38 | _2intense | that's OK |
| 21:28.48 | linux_jones | ok |
| 21:29.02 | _2intense | I suppose you have an ATI card then |
| 21:29.06 | linux_jones | yup |
| 21:29.20 | _2intense | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 21:29.29 | linux_jones | i have already done that |
| 21:29.32 | linux_jones | as well |
| 21:29.38 | mbroeker | scrip, did you get it to work? |
| 21:29.40 | _2intense | vesa driver instead of radeon? |
| 21:29.41 | Spiritus55 | What is a music player that recognizes mpeg-4 file types, or could I just get a decoder for rythmbox? |
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| 21:29.52 | linux_jones | no |
| 21:29.54 | _2intense | mpeg4=mplayer |
| 21:30.04 | Braindead | maybe he means m4a |
| 21:30.22 | _2intense | try the generic VESA driver to see if anything changes |
| 21:30.25 | Spiritus55 | Could I just get a decoder for it to work? |
| 21:30.38 | Spiritus55 | Or rather, get a decoder for it? |
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| 21:30.46 | Spiritus55 | That is the whole problem in the error log. |
| 21:31.23 | Braindead | gstreamer-ffmpeg if it's m4a |
| 21:31.24 | Spiritus55 | The decoder can't figure out what it is. |
| 21:31.27 | Spiritus55 | Or rather, play it. |
| 21:31.51 | _2intense | ffmpeg? so mplayer will do it too |
| 21:31.52 | _2intense | :) |
| 21:31.54 | Spiritus55 | Why can't I just get a plug in or decoder for rythmbox? |
| 21:32.07 | Braindead | Spiritus55: gstreamer-ffmpeg probably will help |
| 21:32.16 | Spiritus55 | Program? |
| 21:32.23 | Braindead | "codec" let's say |
| 21:32.40 | Spiritus55 | Alright, google for gstreamer-ffmep? |
| 21:33.01 | Braindead | no. aptitude search for it |
| 21:33.07 | Braindead | Spiritus55: ask JordiGH |
| 21:33.07 | linux_jones | thank you very much, changing it to vesa worked |
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| 21:33.18 | _2intense | you're welcome linux_jones :))) |
| 21:33.33 | Dexter_F | someone know if and then how etch does font hinting / aliasing different from kubuntu feisty? I just did a fresh install, character spacing is noticable wide and the chars are wider themselves, too |
| 21:33.40 | Spiritus55 | JoriGH: how do I get gstreamer-ffmpeg to work on rythmbox? |
| 21:33.52 | Braindead | Spiritus55: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg by the way |
| 21:33.53 | _2intense | linux-jones: now you have a not 3d accelerated driver but at least you know what doesn't work |
| 21:34.17 | thelostbutler | hello folks. i am attempting to build reiserfs module for a system without having to reboot the system. i have the kernel source, did make oldconfig && make prepare. then attempted make m=fs/reiserfs . i get the following error http://rafb.net/p/JtMVk233.html . i am using sarge . would appreciate some help |
| 21:34.21 | linux_jones | _2intense and its not worth it to try to fix it is it? |
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| 21:34.44 | abrotman | thelostbutler: debian kernels have reiser already |
| 21:35.07 | _2intense | linux_jones: I'm not very good at ATI drivers, maybe there's a downloadable one on their website! |
| 21:35.23 | abrotman | !fglrx one-liner |
| 21:35.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, fglrx one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 21:36.04 | _2intense | fglrx is for the ATI stuff? thanks! :) |
| 21:36.09 | thelostbutler | abortman: at the moment i am running sarge and using a 2.6.18 kernel. the kernel that was built did not have reiserfs support. so now i am trying to build it as a module to load into the kernel . hence the problem |
| 21:36.11 | _2intense | I suck at PC hardware in general :P |
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| 21:36.44 | Spiritus55 | Guys, I don't see anything for debian on the gstreamer-ffmpeg site. |
| 21:36.50 | abrotman | thelostbutler: yes it does |
| 21:36.59 | abrotman | thelostbutler: well .. if it's a debian kernel it does |
| 21:37.02 | Dexter_F | _2intense: beware tho. ive been on ati for... years, fglrx is teh sux0r. what card do you have? |
| 21:37.20 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, just apt-get it. |
| 21:37.32 | Spiritus55 | apt-get install gstreamer-ffmpeg? |
| 21:37.44 | _2intense | Dexter_F: On my machine I have 3 Elite3d adapters :D |
| 21:37.54 | Spiritus55 | Wait, what is the search function for apt? |
| 21:37.57 | thelostbutler | abortman: i am not using a debian kernel. |
| 21:38.03 | abrotman | thelostbutler: sucks to be you! :) |
| 21:38.04 | ampex | abrotman: I believe he's saying that he compiled a kernel on his own that doesn't include reiser |
| 21:38.11 | thelostbutler | abortman: :) i know |
| 21:38.13 | _2intense | Dexter_F: On this piece of sh1t instead there's a Mobility Radeon x-600 |
| 21:38.22 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, Braindead reckoned apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpe |
| 21:38.27 | tim_flatus | g |
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| 21:38.41 | abrotman | thelostbutler: you might get more help in ##kernel .. maybe a make clean ? dunno |
| 21:39.02 | _2intense | Dexter_F: And if for you ATI is the sux0r, wait until you come across SONY hw... |
| 21:39.03 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, to be honest, I use Synaptic. It's much easier to start with. |
| 21:39.04 | _2intense | :* |
| 21:39.17 | Spiritus55 | synaptic? |
| 21:39.23 | hopecon | If there is no kbuild package for a given kernel available, how can I use m-a to install source packages? |
| 21:39.32 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, gui frontend to apt |
| 21:39.44 | Dexter_F | so... X gives me 1280@60Hz. kcontrol won't let me change it. monitor can do 1280@85 for sure. how do I convince etch to do that? |
| 21:39.53 | _2intense | synaptic is nice, it's the same yoke Ubuntu uses by default |
| 21:40.02 | Spiritus55 | Oh, right. |
| 21:40.08 | Spiritus55 | Just put that in the terminal? |
| 21:40.15 | _2intense | Dexter_F: flat screen, I suppose? |
| 21:41.01 | Spiritus55 | After I did "apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" I got "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is already the newest version." |
| 21:41.04 | _2intense | you have to reconfigure your x server if you want to use a different refresh rate |
| 21:41.07 | Spiritus55 | What is that? |
| 21:41.19 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you already have it. |
| 21:41.32 | Spiritus55 | Then why can't it decode mpeg-4 music files? |
| 21:42.03 | Spiritus55 | .m4a's are mpeg-4. |
| 21:42.50 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, that's what I thought. I'm not sure because I installed all the codecs at once and I'm not sure exactly which does what. |
| 21:43.14 | Spiritus55 | Any other way? |
| 21:43.20 | Dexter_F | ah, dkpg-reconf'ed X, alright |
| 21:43.21 | Spiritus55 | Possibly it's another codec? |
| 21:43.35 | Braindead | Spiritus55: are they DRM protected? |
| 21:43.42 | Spiritus55 | No. |
| 21:43.48 | Dexter_F | _2intense: no, CRT. I detest LCDs and try sticking with CRTs as long as I can get decent used ones :) |
| 21:44.34 | _2intense | Dexter_F: That's grand. All you need to do is to change your x server parameters to fit your particular monitor |
| 21:44.49 | Dexter_F | just did |
| 21:44.51 | _2intense | Dexter_F: As plug-and-play usually sucks to a great degree LOL |
| 21:45.12 | _2intense | of course, your adapter and driver have to support that mode too |
| 21:45.24 | mbroeker | Spiritus55, try to install libavcodec1d |
| 21:45.33 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, I forgot what player you were using. Have you tried VLC? VLC often manages to play studd that others won't. |
| 21:45.45 | tim_flatus | s/studd/stuff/ |
| 21:45.46 | Spiritus55 | VLC is a music player? |
| 21:45.51 | dkr | video |
| 21:45.55 | _2intense | VLC plays music and video |
| 21:45.57 | Spiritus55 | I want a music. |
| 21:46.00 | Spiritus55 | Oh, right. |
| 21:46.05 | Dexter_F | it's been long since I touched debian. been using kubuntu for.. three months or so and now am looking elsewhere. kub breaks too much stuff. NFS and smb issues, what kind of a unixish OS is that. |
| 21:46.10 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you, media player. It seems to play nearly everything. |
| 21:46.11 | _2intense | vlc is winamp-ish :D |
| 21:46.30 | dkr | vlc is more like mplayer |
| 21:46.31 | _2intense | Dexter_F: If you want a Debian system, use Debian :D |
| 21:46.36 | dkr | xmms is winamp, :) |
| 21:46.57 | _2intense | I love mplayer, the only player that works decently on sparc64 lol |
| 21:46.59 | tim_flatus | VLC rocks |
| 21:47.17 | _2intense | VLC used not to complile on my machine :( |
| 21:47.22 | dkr | mplayer works perfectly for me to playe verything too, so I've never had a need to try vlc yet |
| 21:47.23 | _2intense | and no, there were no debs |
| 21:47.24 | _2intense | :P |
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| 21:47.37 | Dexter_F | _2intense: actually I want a bleeding edge system with lots of packages that are easy to config. Been with Slackware for... uh.. 6 years or so, still like it but it's just way too much manual work |
| 21:47.47 | Spiritus55 | Hey, how would I uninstall rythmbox? |
| 21:47.48 | _2intense | if you have one of those xbox media centres things, inside there's mplayer :) |
| 21:47.53 | Dexter_F | wanted to use the box instaed of tinker with it ofr a change |
| 21:48.08 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, apt-get remove |
| 21:48.19 | Spiritus55 | apt-get remove rythmbox? |
| 21:48.21 | _2intense | Dexter_F: I am an ex Slackeare myself |
| 21:48.44 | Spiritus55 | Alright. |
| 21:48.46 | Dexter_F | _2intense: say what. last version you used? |
| 21:48.59 | _2intense | Dexter_F: If you want a bleeding edge system w/decent pkgs consider Gentoo |
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| 21:49.14 | _2intense | Slackware 9.0 (on i386) |
| 21:49.15 | dkr | Dexter_F: sounds you want leading edge, then, not bleeding edge. go with testing, instead of unstable, :) |
| 21:49.20 | Spiritus55 | Is there an apt command to list all the currently installed packeges you have? |
| 21:49.42 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, aptitude |
| 21:49.55 | dkr | Spiritus55: dpkg -l |grep '^.i' |
| 21:50.07 | Dexter_F | _2intense: gentoo is on my check out list, too, but I really don't have the nerve to wait for kde and such to compile, which should take about 4 hours on my box. Guess I'd spent more time compiling than using then. |
| 21:50.26 | dkr | yeah, aptitude has them all nicely categorized, probabyl easier, :) |
| 21:50.34 | dkr | to peruse |
| 21:50.44 | _2intense | Dexter_F: I'm hearing ya, that's why I went from gentoo back to Deb. Then again, it's the only decent distro on sun hw. |
| 21:50.50 | Braindead | Spiritus55: aptitude search ~i |
| 21:51.08 | Braindead | Spiritus55: really. give synaptic a try. |
| 21:51.11 | Dexter_F | dkr: 5 years ago I would have, testing was said to be more stable than other distributor's stable releases, but friend of mine talked me out of it, says it's less likely to explode than unstable but not that much |
| 21:51.16 | Spiritus55 | I'm looking through aptitude. |
| 21:51.23 | Spiritus55 | apt-get install synaptic? |
| 21:51.32 | _2intense | Dexter_F: With 3.0 as stable it was actually true |
| 21:51.35 | Dexter_F | _2intense: the only decent OS on sun is solaris :) |
| 21:51.36 | yetifoot | does anyone know if nvidia is working in testing at the moment (by just regular apt install), i think i tried again about 2 weeks ago, but it didn't then and hasn't for a while |
| 21:51.36 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you learn fast grasshopper |
| 21:51.45 | Spiritus55 | I know :) |
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| 21:51.58 | _2intense | Dexter_F: I have that one as well but love the logo with a pengiun and a sun on it LOL |
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| 21:52.44 | Dexter_F | well ill go thru all that, after all set up a tinker box for etch. ill mess with it till it fizzles and dies and then see what I think of it :P |
| 21:52.50 | dkr | Dexter_F: I've never witnessed an explosion. I have used testing on live-ish systems, though, :) |
| 21:52.54 | _2intense | Dexter_F: And getting kde on solaris is another fight I can't be arsed of coping with LOL |
| 21:53.09 | Dexter_F | I even gave up on x86-solaris in vmware... |
| 21:53.22 | Spiritus55 | Well, I tried doing apt-get install synaptic, and apparently I have the newest version. |
| 21:53.30 | _2intense | er, dexter, what's wrong with vmware? :). I make it LOL |
| 21:53.39 | Spiritus55 | But, when I typed in "synaptic" into the terminal, it said command not found. |
| 21:53.47 | Spiritus55 | So, now I'm skeptical as to whether or not I have it. |
| 21:53.53 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you may have to launch it as root |
| 21:53.59 | Spiritus55 | Really? |
| 21:54.02 | Dexter_F | _2intense: vmware is fine. solaris/x86 fscked up grand style... |
| 21:54.06 | Braindead | Spiritus55: ok. forget about synaptic. just use gnome-app-install, it should be installed. Applications->Install |
| 21:54.25 | Spiritus55 | Yeah, I had to run it as root. |
| 21:54.26 | Spiritus55 | Thanks. |
| 21:54.41 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you should have a Desktop menu entry which will launch it via gksu or something silimiar |
| 21:54.42 | _2intense | Dexter_F: I know, solaris/86 under vmware is crap even for me and I work there LOL |
| 21:54.59 | Dexter_F | work where? |
| 21:55.01 | bit0 | hi!, which foremost rule should i use to recover csh scripts? thanks :) |
| 21:55.16 | _2intense | EMC corp. :P |
| 21:55.44 | Spiritus55 | What package was I looking for again? |
| 21:55.56 | _2intense | Spiritus55: synaptic? :D |
| 21:56.04 | Spiritus55 | I have that open. |
| 21:56.35 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you could probably search for 'codec' |
| 21:56.41 | Braindead | or not |
| 21:56.48 | Spiritus55 | Alright. I'll try it. |
| 21:56.52 | _2intense | libavcodec1d |
| 21:57.05 | tim_flatus | or mpeg4 or m4a |
| 21:57.12 | Spiritus55 | search for m4a? |
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| 21:57.27 | tim_flatus | I'm guessing here |
| 21:57.49 | Braindead | Spiritus55: m4a is just a container, there could be a lot of format in there. it's rather strange that ffmpeg can't decode it |
| 21:57.49 | JordiGH | Does anyone have the sources.list entry for the Beryl repo for etch handy? |
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| 21:58.21 | Spiritus55 | Yeah, it really is. |
| 21:58.26 | Spiritus55 | I don't know why it's doing this to me. |
| 21:58.40 | _2intense | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/87647-gstreamer-aac-m4a-support-etch.html |
| 21:59.10 | Braindead | Spiritus55: let's give it a try. try using "file" from the command line on that m4a you're trying to play, it should tell you which codec it uses |
| 21:59.30 | yetifoot | i find amarok plays everything i've thrown at it |
| 21:59.37 | JordiGH | Found it. debian.beryl-project.org |
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| 21:59.47 | _2intense | you need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad (yes, that is the name). You can find it at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 21:59.51 | _2intense | LOL |
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| 21:59.56 | kingsley | Is there a utility that can split each email in /var/spool/mail/<user-name> into individual files? |
| 21:59.58 | _2intense | Spir, that's for you |
| 22:00.23 | mbroeker | kingsley, you are looking for maildir support :) |
| 22:00.27 | tim_flatus | _2intense, that's it |
| 22:00.28 | Braindead | Spiritus55: uuuh yeah install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad |
| 22:00.30 | _2intense | that adds support for MP4 in the AAC sense |
| 22:00.37 | _2intense | thanks tim_flatus |
| 22:00.57 | Spiritus55 | What do you mean file? |
| 22:01.23 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, it's a command that tells you what sort of file you are looking at |
| 22:01.23 | kingsley | mbroeker: Just mbox. |
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| 22:01.25 | _2intense | kingsley: convert to maildir |
| 22:01.36 | Spiritus55 | What would that command look like? |
| 22:01.36 | _2intense | sorry, someone answered before me |
| 22:01.39 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, so file yourfile.m3a |
| 22:01.47 | tim_flatus | or whatever ... |
| 22:02.10 | _2intense | if you're on mailbox only, well emails are normal text files, find a pattern and split it with a regex |
| 22:02.10 | tim_flatus | not quite the clearest. I'm lates * it's tired |
| 22:02.14 | Spiritus55 | All Nerieds Beware.m4a: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, iTunes AAC-LC |
| 22:02.17 | Spiritus55 | That's the output I got. |
| 22:02.21 | Braindead | Spiritus55: nevermind "file", just install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad |
| 22:02.50 | _2intense | yep, if it's itunes you need -plugins-bad and -plugins-ugly |
| 22:03.00 | _2intense | and maybe -very-bad as well |
| 22:03.11 | _2intense | as stupid as the name seems it's all real LOL |
| 22:03.11 | Braindead | FAAD decoding, hence -bad should do the job |
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| 22:03.24 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you might as well install them all. |
| 22:03.30 | _2intense | yep -bad might do |
| 22:03.31 | Spiritus55 | All? |
| 22:03.34 | _2intense | I don't have itunes |
| 22:03.35 | Braindead | and make baby RMS cry |
| 22:03.44 | tim_flatus | Sorry |
| 22:04.02 | Braindead | Spiritus55: just aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad or use synaptic or Applications->Install |
| 22:04.25 | _2intense | Apple sucks anyway |
| 22:04.27 | DustyDingo | hm, how can i list all exported directories of a nfs-server on a client? |
| 22:04.34 | Spiritus55 | When you guys say Applications --> install. |
| 22:04.36 | Spiritus55 | I don't have that |
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| 22:04.40 | Spiritus55 | Option* |
| 22:04.48 | _2intense | Dustydingo: exports ? |
| 22:04.49 | _2intense | :P |
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| 22:05.04 | Braindead | Spiritus55: ok. aptitude or synaptic then |
| 22:05.16 | Spiritus55 | I got -bad. |
| 22:05.18 | Drew__ | hello |
| 22:05.24 | Spiritus55 | And -ugly was already the newest. |
| 22:05.25 | _2intense | hello drew |
| 22:05.33 | Spiritus55 | I'll run rythmbox again, and see if it can manage it. |
| 22:05.52 | _2intense | hope it fixes it for you spir otherwise you know where to find us |
| 22:05.58 | _2intense | this channel r0x |
| 22:05.59 | _2intense | :D |
| 22:06.25 | _2intense | I feel like a young geek again in here LOL |
| 22:06.30 | Drew__ | i have some kind of problem with the etch i just downloaded... the linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 package seams to have an empty Makefile |
| 22:06.36 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, didn't you just uninstall that ;) |
| 22:06.49 | Spiritus55 | ? |
| 22:06.52 | Spiritus55 | No, I tried though. |
| 22:06.59 | Spiritus55 | Couldn't find it in synaptics. |
| 22:07.09 | Drew__ | does anybody know what to do about that? |
| 22:07.14 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, ok :D |
| 22:07.21 | DustyDingo | _2intense: ??? |
| 22:07.23 | _2intense | headers is not a binary file, shouldn't have a makefile at all |
| 22:07.31 | Spiritus55 | Wow, my CPU has been running at 100% for a while now. |
| 22:07.46 | Spiritus55 | Wonder what it could be, since I only have xchat, rythmbox, and iceweasel going... |
| 22:08.00 | _2intense | top is your friend spir |
| 22:08.06 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, run top |
| 22:08.15 | Spiritus55 | And then? |
| 22:08.23 | Spiritus55 | You want me to kill random processes? |
| 22:08.29 | DustyDingo | _2intense: do you mean exportfs? |
| 22:08.42 | Drew__ | intense - oh, excuse my ignoracne, i am rather new to this... somebody pointed out this would be the reason why i cant compile something |
| 22:08.54 | tim_flatus | you want to find out which process has gone into overdrive and kill it. |
| 22:09.11 | DustyDingo | i want to query a nfs-server, and list what directories it exports |
| 22:09.20 | Spiritus55 | Alright now it's being gay. |
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| 22:09.35 | Spiritus55 | It's saying the decoder to decode "MP3" could not be found... |
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| 22:10.01 | _2intense | Drew__: Kernel headers are text files, there's nothing to compile. Why do you need the headers anyway? compiling a third party modeule? |
| 22:10.05 | Spiritus55 | "The GStreamer plug-ins to decode MP3's could not be found" |
| 22:10.36 | _2intense | leave mp3 alone and try with your aac for the moment |
| 22:10.36 | nils_ | hi. I'm currently trying to recover a server from an etch rescue cd, how can I make those LVM devices available? I tried lvscan but no devices show up |
| 22:11.01 | Braindead | gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly , MAD mp3 decoder by the way |
| 22:11.12 | Drew__ | intense, yes - i am trying to compile zaptel for asterisk from source - it needs the headers, but it doesnt compile |
| 22:11.14 | _2intense | nils, are you sure the LVM database is intact on the target LUNs? |
| 22:12.32 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, you're trying to play file formats that Linux doesn't really like due to license restrictions. That's why this is all a bit of a palaer. |
| 22:12.48 | Spiritus55 | palaer? |
| 22:12.50 | Braindead | I'm throwing the towel. |
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| 22:13.03 | tim_flatus | palaver, oh what the heck that probably doesn't transatlanticate anye=way. |
| 22:13.05 | _2intense | Drew__: what's the error you encounter during the compile process? |
| 22:13.21 | nils_ | _2intense: hmm yeah seems intact. lvscan shows the volumes, vgscan shows the volume groups, pvscan shows the right device |
| 22:13.22 | _2intense | tim, you in the uk? :) |
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| 22:13.44 | Spiritus55 | And it's still not decoding MP3's. |
| 22:13.50 | _2intense | good nils, then what exactly is the prob? you should be able to mount your extents |
| 22:14.11 | nils_ | yeah well there are no devices created which I can mount |
| 22:14.13 | _2intense | LOL I had training on Linux LVM a week ago :D |
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| 22:14.21 | Drew__ | _2intense - http://pastebin.ca/667307 |
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| 22:14.41 | _2intense | Drew: pending analysis, 1 sec |
| 22:15.03 | _2intense | nils: which devs are you trying to mount? |
| 22:15.11 | _2intense | I mean the dev names |
| 22:15.32 | nils_ | they are called /dev/var/www and /dev/var/toplevel |
| 22:15.35 | _2intense | Drew: you have to DECOMPRESS the kernel headers..... :D |
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| 22:16.26 | _2intense | nils_: OK, let me check |
| 22:16.34 | nils_ | might be vgchange |
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| 22:16.42 | Drew__ | _2intense - can you give me a hint how to do that? :) |
| 22:16.42 | SKOM | hi |
| 22:16.48 | SKOM | i have problem |
| 22:16.56 | SKOM | i am installing Etch on my PC |
| 22:17.19 | _2intense | nils don't change the vgs if you only want to mount |
| 22:17.22 | SKOM | and he never wanted me to tell him what IDE driver my disk wnats |
| 22:17.22 | _2intense | follow this example |
| 22:17.31 | nils_ | _2intense: it's vgchange -ay ;) |
| 22:17.38 | SKOM | bu today ? i do not know what to select |
| 22:18.26 | _2intense | nils_: mount /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /var/www or what have you :) (use the right values from lvdisplay) |
| 22:18.51 | _2intense | drew 1 sec mate I'm multitasking |
| 22:18.59 | nils_ | _2intense: yeah well I know that, I just didn't know how to make that device appear. But now I know. |
| 22:19.00 | SKOM | does anybody know ? |
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| 22:19.05 | _2intense | drew you downloaded the headers with aptget didn't you? |
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| 22:19.19 | Spiritus55 | SKOM, are you done with the install? |
| 22:19.22 | Drew__ | intense yes - apt-get install linux-headers-(version) |
| 22:19.24 | _2intense | nils_: thanks :) |
| 22:19.55 | nils_ | _2intense: thanks anyways |
| 22:20.11 | _2intense | drew: cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 22:20.17 | _2intense | drew: what's in there |
| 22:20.30 | Drew__ | arch block crypto drivers fs include init ipc kernel lib Makefile mm Module.symvers net scripts security sound usr |
| 22:20.32 | DustyDingo | hm, it seems that there is no way, that a client can list all exported directories of a nf-server, is this correct? |
| 22:20.39 | tim_flatus | Yegods, I just looked at aptitude for the first time in I don't know. We're not seriously suggesting newbies use that? It's extemely scary. |
| 22:20.40 | SKOM | Spiritus55: no i'm not |
| 22:20.41 | Spiritus55 | Anybody here recommend Totem as a music player? |
| 22:20.46 | SKOM | it appeared during instalation |
| 22:20.53 | SKOM | i have WD Caviar 84AA |
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| 22:21.30 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, no, not rally. ;) |
| 22:21.31 | Spiritus55 | I would either 1.) not worry about it (it didn't ask me, or if it did, I don't know how it will affect you) or 2.) ask someone else. |
| 22:21.45 | Spiritus55 | Recommend one to me then? |
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| 22:21.55 | DustyDingo | or is there a way to do it? |
| 22:22.01 | _2intense | Drew__: it sounds all right, are you compiling as root? |
| 22:22.12 | _2intense | huh you are |
| 22:22.12 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, QuodLibet |
| 22:22.24 | Spiritus55 | can it decode m4a's? |
| 22:22.49 | Drew__ | _2intense - yes |
| 22:22.56 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, if you have the right codec installed, everything should be able to play m4as |
| 22:23.10 | Spiritus55 | I apparently don't have the right codec, then. |
| 22:23.14 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, the codec does the decoding |
| 22:23.33 | Drew__ | _2intense - i am logged in via openssh, dunno if that makes any difference |
| 22:23.34 | nils_ | and now time to build a new kernel on a system which I can only access via ssh, aka russian roulette |
| 22:24.09 | _2intense | Drew__: no it's all right, are you sure that module is not available in a debianized format? It seems like you're missing some libs somewhere |
| 22:24.42 | Spiritus55 | What codec would I need to decode MP3's? |
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| 22:26.13 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, possibly libavcodec0d |
| 22:26.35 | Braindead | Spiritus55: worst case scenario: install gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad |
| 22:26.41 | SerajewelKS | can i install the 32bit java plugin on my amd64 system with dpkg and set it up to run with nspluginwrapper? |
| 22:26.48 | Spiritus55 | I tried that, and it said It wasn't there. |
| 22:27.04 | _2intense | Drew__: to make the zaptel module you have to use make linux26 instead of just make |
| 22:27.12 | Spiritus55 | E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad |
| 22:27.15 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, or libmpeg4ip-0: if not there install them |
| 22:27.22 | Braindead | Spiritus55: it's on debian-multimedia |
| 22:27.30 | Braindead | mmm let's find the factoid .... |
| 22:27.37 | Braindead | !debian-multimedia |
| 22:27.37 | dpkg | from memory, debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 22:27.47 | Spiritus55 | E: Couldn't find package libmpeg4ip-0 |
| 22:27.52 | Braindead | !tell Spiritus55 about debian-multimedia.etch |
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| 22:28.03 | Drew__ | _2intense - yeah i tried that - "make: *** No rule to make target `linux26'. Stop." |
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| 22:28.19 | coldsteal | hello |
| 22:28.31 | SerajewelKS | i'm just unsure how to actually get the plugin binary on my box |
| 22:28.35 | _2intense | Drew: let's recap. configure and make clean work right? |
| 22:28.41 | coldsteal | i am getting an error aclocal not found |
| 22:28.49 | Braindead | zomg. enough |
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| 22:29.33 | Drew__ | _2intense - configure works - neither make, make clean nor make linux26 work - see pastebin link i posted above for output of make clean |
| 22:29.33 | GullyFoyle | alright i got talked into it. i'm going to d/l testing with jigdo and try it out |
| 22:29.47 | _2intense | Drew: what version of GCC do you have? you need 3.3 along 4.0 for the module to work |
| 22:30.12 | Drew__ | dunno, whatever apt-get gave me... ;) |
| 22:30.25 | _2intense | query mate, will ya :D |
| 22:30.49 | _2intense | aptitude and look at the version |
| 22:30.59 | mbroeker | coldsteal, what are you doing with automake and autoconf packages? |
| 22:31.12 | _2intense | yoi need to install (since you have aptit open.. gcc 3.3) |
| 22:31.12 | Drew__ | "gcc -v": gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
| 22:31.41 | _2intense | Drew: I think we've solved the prob |
| 22:31.52 | Drew__ | so i need an older gcc... |
| 22:31.53 | _2intense | Drew: from zaptel doc: 'make CC=gcc-3.3 linux26' if you have gcc-4.0 as default, since some modules use depreciated c extentions. |
| 22:32.00 | _2intense | and of course install gcc 3.3 |
| 22:32.25 | tim_flatus | Spiritus55, http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs?highlight=%28codec%29 |
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| 22:33.41 | fas3r | i have a problem i have two interface ( subnet ) 192.168.1.0 (eth0) and 192.168.2.0 (eth1) .. i have ACCEPT FORWARD between eth0 and eth1 but when i want to ping from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.2.2 it failed ... |
| 22:33.47 | fas3r | nobody have idea ? |
| 22:33.52 | fas3r | it's a gateway |
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| 22:34.20 | Dexter_F | how do I get a repos' gpg key if there's no data on the website? |
| 22:34.21 | _2intense | fas3r: is ip forwarding enabled on /proc? |
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| 22:34.51 | fas3r | yes, I have Internet on both sides |
| 22:35.00 | fas3r | yes and* |
| 22:35.03 | SKOM | hueeee |
| 22:35.19 | SKOM | i had tried installation again |
| 22:35.28 | _2intense | fas3r: from which machine are you trying to ping? |
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| 22:35.36 | shado1 | yo |
| 22:35.41 | SKOM | and that problem with ide driver is here again :( |
| 22:35.48 | shado1 | how do i find a file from command line |
| 22:36.00 | mbroeker | fas3r, echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 22:36.03 | _2intense | shado1: find / -name thename |
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| 22:36.19 | fas3r | mbroeker: it's enable |
| 22:36.31 | shado1 | thx |
| 22:36.34 | SKOM | does exist some universal driver? |
| 22:36.44 | unlink | is there any way to reset the permissions on system files and directories quickly to their defaults? |
| 22:36.56 | fas3r | _2intense: from 192.168.2.2 |
| 22:37.06 | fas3r | to 192.168.1.2 |
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| 22:37.13 | _2intense | fas3r: you aren't filtering ICMP are you? :P |
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| 22:37.18 | fas3r | nop |
| 22:37.19 | mbroeker | fas3r, routing table is properly set? |
| 22:37.38 | fas3r | it's the problem i have no firewall, i have just masquerade |
| 22:37.39 | _2intense | check the def gw settings on 2.2 |
| 22:37.44 | fas3r | for connect to internet |
| 22:37.54 | fas3r | and echo "1" in ip_forward |
| 22:38.24 | mbroeker | check the settings with sysctl -a | grep ipv4 or icmp |
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| 22:38.25 | _2intense | the def gw in host 2.2 should be 2.1 or whatever eth1 is |
| 22:38.36 | SKOM | i think i solved it |
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| 22:39.23 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, have you looked in the repo for a 'keyring' package? |
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| 22:39.37 | snowbird | my music keeps droping out and in how i fix it? |
| 22:39.42 | Dexter_F | yetifoot: hmm, no. will do. |
| 22:39.47 | fas3r | mbroeker: it's good i have look |
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| 22:40.51 | _2intense | fas3r: have you checked the default gw on host 2.2? |
| 22:41.01 | _2intense | traceroute? |
| 22:41.05 | fas3r | yep it's good |
| 22:41.16 | fas3r | and tracert stop at the gateway .. |
| 22:41.30 | _2intense | which is 2.1 right? |
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| 22:42.09 | _2intense | check the other chains on iptables on the gw, reset the counters and see where the connections stop |
| 22:42.13 | fas3r | yes |
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| 22:42.24 | fas3r | the gateway for 192.168.1.0 is 192.168.1.1 |
| 22:42.35 | fas3r | and for 192.168.2.0 it's 192.168.2.1 |
| 22:42.41 | _2intense | it's probably the output chain defaulting to drop |
| 22:42.42 | fas3r | the two interface on my gateway |
| 22:42.56 | fas3r | _2intense: no i have look ... :( |
| 22:43.16 | Dexter_F | yetifoot: ok, followed instructions on website, said install multimedia-keyring |
| 22:43.22 | GullyFoyle | i'm trying to find the .jigdo file for amd64/testing but the url on the debian site just hangs |
| 22:43.31 | Dexter_F | did that, now on aptitude update the multimedia repos are ignored |
| 22:44.07 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, that's odd, i found once i installed that keyring, i don't get the message about GPG key unknown, but i still get a warning about every package i install |
| 22:45.03 | karsten | yetifoot: aptitude update |
| 22:45.07 | GullyFoyle | i can't find the url for amd64/testing to enter into jigdo |
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| 22:45.30 | GullyFoyle | the link on the debian jigdo page won't open so i can get the url |
| 22:45.31 | yetifoot | karsten, i did that, i still get the warnings, the one about 'unverified source' or something like that |
| 22:45.42 | _2intense | fas3r: free up the other chains on the gw as a test |
| 22:45.51 | karsten | yetifoot: Do you have keys for _all_ your package sources? |
| 22:46.01 | _2intense | allow everything then close down one chain at a time |
| 22:46.15 | fas3r | _2intense: i have just one chain ... :) |
| 22:46.20 | yetifoot | karsten, i don't know, i just added the debian-multimedia repo to sources.list, and installed the keyring from their repo |
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| 22:46.29 | _2intense | no you have three: input output forward |
| 22:46.29 | fas3r | and it's for masquerade other computer |
| 22:46.46 | GullyFoyle | can i just hover over the link and copy it? |
| 22:47.04 | yetifoot | karsten, that's not a big issue for me, but Dexter_F says when he did aptitude update he doesn't get any of the repo anymore |
| 22:47.20 | fas3r | _2intense: yep but policy are at ACCEPT .. |
| 22:47.28 | Dexter_F | wanted to add a debian-multimedia mirror |
| 22:47.35 | _2intense | fas ok now it's a bit clearer |
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| 22:48.02 | Dexter_F | yetifoot: wait, keyring from *their* repo? |
| 22:48.20 | _2intense | so you get to the internet from the .1.x subnet and .2.x but NOT from 1.x to 2.x |
| 22:48.21 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, yes, i think it's called debian-multimedia-keyring or something like that |
| 22:48.22 | SKOM | yeah |
| 22:48.25 | SKOM | problem solved |
| 22:48.27 | Dexter_F | how.. I mean, I can't even update with the repo |
| 22:48.39 | Dexter_F | yetifoot: i got that, thought it came from etch itself |
| 22:48.41 | fas3r | yes it's that |
| 22:49.02 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, no, it is in the repo, so you where able to see the packages at that point |
| 22:49.09 | Drew__ | _2intense - can i change the defalut compiler? it just doesnt seam to work :( |
| 22:49.11 | _2intense | fas3r: you are MASQing between subnets and you get to 1.x from 2.x with a nat address |
| 22:49.28 | _2intense | Drew have you installed a 3.x compiler? |
| 22:49.34 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, look in aptitude search for something like libdvdcss, that is not in etch repos, so if you can see that, then you have the repo working ok |
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| 22:49.55 | Drew__ | _2intense - yes i did apt-get on gcc-3.3 and it's dependancies |
| 22:50.13 | _2intense | Drew__: make CC=gcc-3.3 linux26 |
| 22:50.25 | Dexter_F | well, on aptitude upgrade nothing happens, 0 Byte. thought a few libs were at least substituted. il check something... |
| 22:50.39 | Spiritus55 | Well, boys, I'm off to church. Bbl. |
| 22:50.40 | fas3r | _2intense: when i ping from 1.x or 2.x to 1.x or 2.x you think i use public adress ? |
| 22:50.57 | Drew__ | _2intense - yeah, it scrolls a couple of screens and then: "make: *** No rule to make target `linux26'. Stop." |
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| 22:51.05 | fas3r | sorry english and me ... :( |
| 22:51.41 | _2intense | drew: try "make CC=gcc-3.3" |
| 22:51.51 | Dexter_F | ah. works. |
| 22:51.57 | Dexter_F | Bob knows why. |
| 22:52.01 | _2intense | fas3r: yes, I think so, I has the same problems with a network of a customer |
| 22:52.10 | Drew__ | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686' |
| 22:52.11 | Drew__ | make[2]: Makefile: No such file or directory |
| 22:52.11 | Drew__ | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `Makefile'. Stop. |
| 22:52.11 | Drew__ | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686' |
| 22:52.11 | Drew__ | make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 |
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| 22:52.13 | _2intense | check with tcpdump |
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| 22:52.22 | nils_ | hmm does grub start counting kernels with 0 or 1... |
| 22:52.26 | Drew__ | sorry, i guess that was too much |
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| 22:52.46 | TurboBee | how do i turn iceweasel into firefox |
| 22:52.54 | Drew__ | anyway, that doesnt work either |
| 22:53.06 | _2intense | TurboBee: IW is firefox only w/o the graphics |
| 22:53.08 | fas3r | ok just i need to make NAT redirection from eth1 to eth2 and vice versa, it's that ? |
| 22:53.08 | yetifoot | TurboBee, in what way do you want to change it? |
| 22:53.20 | fas3r | or SNAT / DNAT ? |
| 22:53.22 | _2intense | fas3r: yes, that is basically it |
| 22:53.29 | TurboBee | basically i want it to say firefox :) |
| 22:53.32 | TurboBee | and use firefox icon |
| 22:53.34 | TurboBee | etc |
| 22:53.40 | _2intense | fas3r: between local network you need to forward |
| 22:53.52 | fas3r | oki thank _2intense ^^ i go to test |
| 22:53.53 | _2intense | fas3r: between LAN and inet you need to nat |
| 22:53.54 | _2intense | :) |
| 22:53.55 | mbroeker | Drew__, apt-get install linux-tree && cd /usr/src/ && tar -xvzf linux-2.6<tab> |
| 22:53.56 | yetifoot | TurboBee, you would need to get the firefox from the official site, and install manually i guess, it's not in the debian repos |
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| 22:54.07 | TurboBee | ah |
| 22:54.09 | _2intense | you're very wemlcome fas3r |
| 22:54.19 | _2intense | mbroeker thanks for the help |
| 22:54.25 | yetifoot | TurboBee, but you should probably remove iceweasel first, i would expect them to clash |
| 22:54.32 | TurboBee | hehe |
| 22:54.38 | _2intense | I'm trying to help everyone but I only have 1 brain... but it's fun :D |
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| 22:55.58 | TurboBee | _2intense: just use both halves of your brain symaltaneously :D |
| 22:56.07 | Drew__ | mbroeker - E: Couldn't find package linux-tree |
| 22:56.20 | TurboBee | er simoltaneously |
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| 22:56.36 | TurboBee | er |
| 22:56.37 | mbroeker | Drew__, ok take the linux-source then: linux-tree is specific to lenny |
| 22:56.38 | TurboBee | forget it |
| 22:56.39 | TurboBee | i can't spell |
| 22:56.41 | _2intense | TurboBee: I can't, the other half is currently in use by another process that I can't kill -9 without going to jail |
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| 22:56.48 | linuxtk11 | hey heycan i use an etch package in lenny ? |
| 22:56.54 | UptimeFactor-Jus | ;) |
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| 22:57.01 | TurboBee | hehe |
| 22:57.11 | fas3r | _2intense: but i haven't forward tables in -t nat ? |
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| 22:57.55 | _2intense | fas3r: don't masq your individual subnets, masq the default gw |
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| 22:58.14 | fas3r | hum .. |
| 22:58.30 | mbroeker | Drew__, which version? 2.6.x.y? what is x what is y :) |
| 22:58.31 | _2intense | otherwise you would have to do some prerouting checks and the likes |
| 22:58.40 | UptimeFactor-Jus | Hey, can I use etch packages in lenny? |
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| 22:59.23 | UptimeFactor-Jus | Like, just one set of packages. (OpenVZ Set) |
| 22:59.27 | Drew__ | mbroeker - i just downloaded linux-source-2.6.18 |
| 22:59.56 | mbroeker | Drew__, ok. and uname -r says something like 2.6.18 :) |
| 22:59.58 | yetifoot | linuxtk11 and UptimeFactor-Jus you probably can, i have, but sometimes i've had dependency nightmares with mixing packages like that |
| 23:00.03 | _2intense | if your uname -a reports 2.6.18-something you're ok |
| 23:00.14 | Drew__ | uname -r: 2.6.18-5-686 |
| 23:00.14 | _2intense | oops sorry mbroeker he's all yours :D |
| 23:00.27 | mbroeker | Drew__, ok thats looks fine |
| 23:00.32 | fas3r | sorry i don't understand .. i go to google .. I don't want to abuse |
| 23:00.35 | UptimeFactor-Jus | Like, its OpenvZ (just needs its kernel) thats the only dependency, do yout hink I'd have much of a prob? |
| 23:00.47 | mbroeker | Drew__, now cd /usr/src/ and untar the linux source tar.bz2 |
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| 23:01.14 | _2intense | fas3r: use normal forwards, not masq, between your two subnets and only masquerade your default gw towards the internet |
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| 23:02.19 | mbroeker | Drew__, after untaring the huge tar ball, make a symlink: ln -s linux-source-2.6.18 linux |
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| 23:03.24 | yetifoot | UptimeFactor-Jus, i don't know what OpenVZ is, but i guess the only way to find out is to try :) |
| 23:03.39 | mbroeker | Drew__, say when you are done and ready for the next step... |
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| 23:03.53 | Drew__ | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format ?? |
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| 23:04.03 | mbroeker | Drew__, tar -xvjf |
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| 23:04.24 | _2intense | if it's a bz2 is -xvbf mate |
| 23:04.50 | Drew__ | i'll have to write myself a cheatsheet for that sometime :) |
| 23:05.03 | SerajewelKS | _2intense: -b has nothing to do with bzip2 |
| 23:05.36 | mbroeker | Drew__, all done? |
| 23:05.49 | _2intense | SerajewelKS: I beg your pardon? |
| 23:05.54 | Drew__ | @link |
| 23:05.59 | SerajewelKS | _2intense: < _2intense> if it's a bz2 is -xvbf mate |
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| 23:06.14 | SerajewelKS | _2intense: the -b option to tar has nothing at all to do with bzip2 |
| 23:06.14 | Drew__ | ok all done |
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| 23:06.40 | greenlynx | hi everybody |
| 23:06.47 | mbroeker | Drew__, and you have made the symlink ? |
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| 23:06.52 | Drew__ | yes |
| 23:06.56 | _2intense | SerajewelKS: you're right, I meant j LOL |
| 23:07.00 | mbroeker | Drew__, if so, cd linux and make menuconfig |
| 23:07.03 | SerajewelKS | _2intense: heh |
| 23:07.09 | mbroeker | if that works, you are fine |
| 23:07.24 | greenlynx | somebody have a socks install on his debian ? |
| 23:07.26 | _2intense | it's midnight in my timezone SerajewelKS, bear w/me LOL |
| 23:07.34 | Drew__ | i get a menu |
| 23:07.34 | SerajewelKS | !tell greenlynx about poll |
| 23:07.43 | mbroeker | in blue, Drew__ `? |
| 23:07.47 | Drew__ | jep |
| 23:07.48 | mbroeker | yes, it works |
| 23:07.51 | greenlynx | ok sorry |
| 23:08.03 | greenlynx | i don't know it |
| 23:08.10 | _2intense | does tor count as socks? :P |
| 23:08.11 | mbroeker | Drew__, try a fresh "zcat /proc/config.gz |
| 23:08.13 | SerajewelKS | greenlynx: that's ok, just ask your question |
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| 23:08.34 | mbroeker | Drew__, does it work ? |
| 23:08.35 | greenlynx | well my tor won't work :( |
| 23:08.46 | SerajewelKS | greenlynx: you might also try #debian-fr if you speak french |
| 23:08.48 | greenlynx | i can't open the port |
| 23:08.48 | Kevin` | _2intense does it provide a socks interface? I think it does |
| 23:08.58 | Drew__ | mbroeker - no |
| 23:09.01 | greenlynx | ps : excuse for my english i'm french ^^ |
| 23:09.08 | _2intense | Yes kevin, tor does |
| 23:09.08 | mbroeker | ok Drew__ look in /boot/config* |
| 23:09.09 | fas3r | _2intense: this ? http://pastebin.com/m612cc1f1 |
| 23:09.24 | mbroeker | Drew__, is there a config-2.6.18-something? |
| 23:09.31 | greenlynx | SerajewelKS there nobody on debian-fr ^^ |
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| 23:09.55 | Drew__ | yes |
| 23:10.09 | _2intense | fas3r: you're right, as you can see yourself you're MASQing everything FROM .1.x OR 2.x, no matter the destination |
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| 23:10.13 | fas3r | i confirm what greenlynx say :p |
| 23:10.21 | mbroeker | Drew__, copy that file: cp /boot/config-2.6.18-xyz /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 23:10.35 | runixd | hello, I sometimes have lags when I start applications (e.g. terminal) with gnome , how can I diagnose what the problem is ? |
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| 23:10.54 | fas3r | _2intense: ok thank i come back i go to test |
| 23:11.00 | greenlynx | lol thx fas3r ^^ |
| 23:11.01 | Drew__ | done |
| 23:11.07 | fas3r | de rien :p |
| 23:11.19 | mbroeker | Drew__, cd /usr/src/linux/ && make modules_prepare |
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| 23:11.36 | _2intense | fas3r: tiens que utilizer ip forwarding entre .2.x and 1.x et nat pour l'internet :D |
| 23:11.38 | mbroeker | Drew__, after that step, you will be able to build your kernel module outside the tree |
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| 23:12.01 | fas3r | ^^ |
| 23:12.01 | MatBoy | does someone know a webbased user management except webmin ? something php based ? |
| 23:12.01 | wisp | hello folks.. if i got a x86_64 processor arch, should i be downloading the AMD64 version of debian? |
| 23:12.08 | fas3r | good _2intense .. :) |
| 23:12.10 | nils_ | wisp: depends. |
| 23:12.15 | Drew__ | make: *** No rule to make target `modules_prepare'. Stop. |
| 23:12.18 | wisp | nils_: depends on what? |
| 23:12.20 | fas3r | i think it's same for me .. :) |
| 23:12.23 | _2intense | fas3r: I've been to canada LOL |
| 23:12.29 | fas3r | lol oki ^^ |
| 23:12.31 | nils_ | wisp: what will you use the system for and how many ram you have. |
| 23:12.37 | greenlynx | if somebody know a good proxy software it's ok for me |
| 23:12.38 | nils_ | wisp: err how much |
| 23:12.49 | nils_ | greenlynx: what do you want to proxy? |
| 23:12.51 | _2intense | greenlynx: squid? |
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| 23:12.55 | fas3r | greenlynx: squid |
| 23:13.02 | fas3r | :p |
| 23:13.05 | greenlynx | not just a http one |
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| 23:13.17 | mbroeker | Drew__, make prepare then? |
| 23:13.19 | wisp | nils_: it is not a problem to run 32 bit applications on 64 bit systems as i understand it, in chmod'ed env |
| 23:13.23 | greenlynx | i want to tunnel all my network |
| 23:13.27 | _2intense | squid does have plugins for other protocols |
| 23:13.28 | wisp | nils_: 2GB ram btw |
| 23:13.36 | mbroeker | Drew__, anyway, try to build your kernel module right now outside this tree |
| 23:13.42 | Drew__ | make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'. Stop. |
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| 23:13.44 | _2intense | for a tunnel you should use openssh :D |
| 23:13.47 | snowbird | tunnel whats that |
| 23:13.49 | nils_ | wisp: yeah well it's possible but why would you want 64 bit if you don't have applications benefiting from it. |
| 23:14.03 | nils_ | wisp: it is still a large bit of hassle to deal with the chmoded stuff |
| 23:14.05 | greenlynx | sorry |
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| 23:14.12 | mbroeker | Drew__, ok cd /usr/src/linux && make oldconfig |
| 23:14.13 | wisp | nils_: aren't most(tm) applications ported to 64 bit yet? |
| 23:14.25 | greenlynx | i don't know the english word |
| 23:14.31 | Drew__ | mbroeker - that worked |
| 23:14.44 | mbroeker | ok try to compile your kernel module |
| 23:14.45 | greenlynx | tunneling ?? |
| 23:14.46 | nils_ | wisp: yes, most... if you don't use proprietary software you might as well use 64 bit |
| 23:14.48 | _2intense | 64 bit in user space is useless, we sparc folks avoid it since linux was ported LOL |
| 23:14.56 | mbroeker | Drew__, if it works, you are fine |
| 23:15.15 | nils_ | wisp: but it doesn't help either so stick with 32 bit if you have less than 3GB RAM... I even use PAE on this system to avoid 64 bit hassle |
| 23:15.25 | wisp | nils_: well, only prop. software i use will be the nvidia drivers (sorry, but the open drivers just aren't good enough.. ) |
| 23:15.25 | mbroeker | Drew__, if not, then you need to build and install this kernel from source and reboot with this new kernel |
| 23:15.42 | nils_ | wisp: not flash, acrobat reader or stuff like that? |
| 23:15.46 | _2intense | wisp: if you want nvidia drivers stick to a 32bit userspace |
| 23:15.54 | nils_ | wisp: well I think there are 64 bit drivers now but I don't know |
| 23:16.12 | wisp | nils_: not really.. well i guess the occasional flash vid will appear on my browser.. |
| 23:16.15 | Dexter_F | google earth is not in any deb repos, right? |
| 23:16.28 | _2intense | there's no real advantage to 64bit nowadays (in user space, in kernel space there actually is) |
| 23:16.28 | Drew__ | mbroeker, ok ill try that, thanks for the help |
| 23:16.30 | wisp | i will just follow your advice and stick to 32bit |
| 23:16.36 | nils_ | wisp: no 64 bit flash plugin available I think... |
| 23:16.44 | yetifoot | Dexter_F, i think an installer is in the non-free, same as flash, but last time i tried, it was broken, so i installed manually |
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| 23:17.09 | wisp | just seems a shame to get a 64 bit cpu and not being able to fully utilize it |
| 23:17.14 | Dexter_F | non-free.... hmm.. forgot that... need to touch up sources.list some more |
| 23:17.30 | nils_ | wisp: oh well, it's just 32 bits... you can still use all the cores and stuff ;) |
| 23:17.34 | Dexter_F | wisp: do you have more than 3GB? |
| 23:17.48 | yetifoot | should my etch work with ipv6 by default, or do i need to change something? i'm wondering here why test sites don't work, if it's just settings, or my ISP |
| 23:18.05 | wisp | okay then.. next question: will i have to reinstall my current system (i386) to cope with the hardware upgrade? |
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| 23:18.28 | wisp | Dexter_F: no, i will have 2GB of ram |
| 23:18.36 | _2intense | wisp: 686 no? |
| 23:18.40 | nils_ | wisp: well depends... 2.4.20 was the first kernel which was fully stable for my system. |
| 23:18.41 | Dexter_F | wisp: what do you want with 64bit dists then? |
| 23:19.03 | wisp | _2intense: intel quad core if you must know.. yeah i686 .. |
| 23:19.13 | abrotman | there's a -k7 |
| 23:19.15 | abrotman | erm k8 |
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| 23:19.34 | wisp | Dexter_F: i wasn't aware that 3GB was a minimum req. |
| 23:19.37 | _2intense | We in the Sparc camp had mixed 32/64 releases (both of linux and solaris, and apps such as oracle) for years, it didn't matter all that much :D |
| 23:20.09 | _2intense | wisp: 32 bits can't address 3 gb of ram, that's why it's quoted. |
| 23:20.12 | Dexter_F | wisp: it isn't. but the only advantage of 64bit over 32 is that you can adress 4GB and more. you don' gain the slightest bit of speed. |
| 23:20.31 | wisp | Dexter_F: i see |
| 23:20.33 | abrotman | Dexter_F: not true... depends on the app |
| 23:20.49 | Dexter_F | abrotman: example? |
| 23:20.51 | nils_ | abrotman: you don't want to go down the PAE road... |
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| 23:20.57 | _2intense | most apps aren't optimized for 64b, on every opsys |
| 23:20.58 | abrotman | databases |
| 23:21.08 | abrotman | nils_: i wasn't going to :) |
| 23:21.33 | wisp | i guess i will just keep my current system then.. :P saves a lot of reinstalling anyways. .:) |
| 23:21.37 | _2intense | we're talking enterprise grade dbs, not your amateur site with mysql here anyway :) |
| 23:21.52 | nils_ | I sense a flamewar ;) |
| 23:22.00 | _2intense | nah we're all friends |
| 23:22.01 | _2intense | :D |
| 23:22.04 | abrotman | _2intense: still the same premise |
| 23:22.11 | Dexter_F | abrotman: well, I see how a db profits from directly adressing 4GB+, but that's because of the address space, which still comes down to: if you want 4gig+ go 64. |
| 23:22.11 | _2intense | I had a 333-Mhz 64 bit cpu :D |
| 23:22.29 | abrotman | Dexter_F: that wasn't what i meant |
| 23:22.30 | nils_ | abrotman: well to take mysql as example, there is PAE support in it but it isn't stable or enabled... |
| 23:22.42 | Dexter_F | abrotman: ok, how else? |
| 23:22.47 | _2intense | Dexter_F: Agreed completely, but do you really need 4gb dbs these days other than in data centres? |
| 23:22.52 | nils_ | abrotman: and I don't know of other means to access more than ~<3GB in a single process |
| 23:23.04 | Dexter_F | _2intense: just my point |
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| 23:23.05 | abrotman | IIRC PAE also allows up to 64GB |
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| 23:23.16 | nils_ | yeah but it sucks. |
| 23:23.18 | Dexter_F | PAE is *ugly* |
| 23:23.20 | abrotman | Dexter_F: the amount of data moved per op |
| 23:23.22 | _2intense | physical address extension sucks |
| 23:23.29 | _2intense | oops sorry I was preceded LOL |
| 23:23.29 | nils_ | and most apps don't support pae |
| 23:23.39 | wisp | oh well fella, thanks for the chat, I am off to bed.. :) |
| 23:23.42 | _2intense | make them almost all apps :D |
| 23:23.44 | Dexter_F | abrotman: the... you can't cram 2x32 into 64 bit ops. that's not how it works. |
| 23:23.58 | abrotman | Dexter_F: you're still missing it .. :) |
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| 23:24.12 | _2intense | from a coding standpoint PAE is really really ugly |
| 23:24.20 | _2intense | and mind you I'm a shitty coder LOL |
| 23:24.29 | _2intense | I do storage stuff for a living though :D |
| 23:24.41 | Dexter_F | so am I. still I'd seriuosly liek to know what other point there is in 64b... |
| 23:24.57 | nils_ | well if storage doesn't work out for you, you can still join the typo3 developer team ;) |
| 23:25.00 | Dexter_F | but first I need to tinker with the sources... |
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| 23:25.30 | _2intense | well I prefer the hybrid approach, 64b kernel (with mmap and all) and 32bit userspace (proven by decades of coding by now) |
| 23:25.49 | nils_ | Dexter_F: also don't know of any other point other than allocating large amounts of RAM in a single process |
| 23:26.04 | _2intense | nils_: Unless they need ASM guys I can't help much LOL |
| 23:26.12 | nils_ | _2intense: hehe |
| 23:26.38 | _2intense | I work for a fibre channel storage company, it's all quite machine oriented :D |
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| 23:26.57 | abrotman | Dexter_F: i'm sure a google of "32 bit vs 64 bit" would show mixed results .. as i said .. depends on the app |
| 23:26.59 | jae | Is the current 2.6.22 in Debian tickless? (Wondering about tickless stability/worthiness...) |
| 23:27.38 | Dexter_F | abrotman: ill sure look into that. but not today, local time says "way too late" |
| 23:27.39 | _2intense | oh well abrotman, every debate in the linux world is awesome, starting from torvalds vs. tanenbaum |
| 23:27.41 | antum | I recently installed postfix and when it asked if I wanted to use Local Only or Internet Site I chose Local Only and I was supposed to choose Internet Site. How can I figure out what I need to change to get it back to Internet Site? |
| 23:27.55 | abrotman | Dexter_F: it always does .. damn silly 24hour days! |
| 23:28.13 | _2intense | it's half past midnight in my lovely TZ |
| 23:28.31 | jae | antum: dpkg-reconfigure postfix (IIRC) |
| 23:28.34 | Dexter_F | _2intense: happen to know ananke from #slackware? man had I darn nerdy geek arguments with that guy :D |
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| 23:28.43 | antum | jae, cheers |
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| 23:29.04 | Dexter_F | ah, back then... :) |
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| 23:29.31 | _2intense | Dexter_F: no, I never logged into #slackware myself, too busy chasing girls on the internet when I was young :D |
| 23:29.43 | Dexter_F | LOL |
| 23:29.46 | nils_ | _2intense: catched any? |
| 23:30.03 | _2intense | yes sir, as a matter of fact :D |
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| 23:30.17 | Dexter_F | MB or GB? ;) |
| 23:30.19 | _2intense | but of course not on IRC :D |
| 23:30.20 | nils_ | hehe |
| 23:30.55 | _2intense | girls were in p2p nets :D |
| 23:31.06 | _2intense | downloading backstreet boys and shit |
| 23:31.08 | _2intense | :D |
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| 23:31.31 | _2intense | one day I said "sure I'll fix your computer" |
| 23:31.42 | _2intense | and I ended up fixing all the rest LOL |
| 23:31.59 | nils_ | after sharing some trojans with them? ;) |
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| 23:32.30 | nils_ | (hmm well even that could be a sexual metaphor) |
| 23:32.43 | _2intense | LOL that brand is not published overseas, it's not mirrored on non-US LOL |
| 23:32.44 | bonez39 | if I want to rework a .tif image...would gimp work best, or would scribus, or inkscape ? ideas? |
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| 23:33.11 | _2intense | bonez39, for tiff files I always used gimp and it works |
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| 23:33.28 | abrotman | bonez39: scribus and inkscape are vector based IIRC |
| 23:33.44 | _2intense | isn't tif a bitmap format? |
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| 23:33.47 | ola__ | Is there a way to launch gnome on only one screen? (I am not using the xinerama extension) |
| 23:33.50 | JordiGH | Let's not forget xara either. |
| 23:34.02 | _2intense | corel xara. yeah baby. :D |
| 23:34.20 | JordiGH | It's by Corel? |
| 23:34.38 | _2intense | it was in 1995 |
| 23:34.59 | abrotman | ola__: uhm .. one monitor? or one viewport ? |
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| 23:35.25 | fas3r | _2intense: it's work but how to add internet for 1.x and 2.x ? what i need to masquerade ? what go out from eth0 (internet interface) ? |
| 23:35.30 | _2intense | and Gnome or X itself? |
| 23:35.41 | Drevay | hey guys, i just completely removed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer and reinstalled the totem-mplayer plugin but it still plays with mplayer, any ideas? |
| 23:35.41 | JordiGH | Xara Xtreme. It was in Debian, but I can't find it right now. |
| 23:35.50 | _2intense | fas3r: I told you that was the problem :) |
| 23:36.13 | abrotman | Drevay: what is "it"? |
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| 23:36.27 | _2intense | fas3r: now, use destination routing instead of masquerade |
| 23:36.41 | Drevay | videos: mpeg, avi, wmv, etc. |
| 23:36.45 | _2intense | fas3r: masq it's only good for a single host |
| 23:36.58 | stoned | hello my favorite peoples in the worlds |
| 23:37.28 | nils_ | stoned: germans also included? |
| 23:37.47 | stoned | sure |
| 23:37.54 | Drevay | got it, nevermind :D |
| 23:37.56 | stoned | I hate everyone equally |
| 23:37.56 | stoned | ;) |
| 23:37.59 | _2intense | fas3r: in other words, use your gateway as a router rather than masqing |
| 23:38.04 | nils_ | hehe |
| 23:38.37 | _2intense | and bear with me, it was three years ago last time I used iptables in a prod network |
| 23:38.43 | _2intense | I was so happy |
| 23:38.43 | bonez39 | ok..gimp then |
| 23:38.44 | fas3r | _2intense: i need to use FORWARD new time ? |
| 23:38.47 | _2intense | LOL |
| 23:38.55 | fas3r | FORWARD with destination option |
| 23:38.56 | ola__ | abrotman: one screen. I have one display with two screens. |
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| 23:39.07 | fas3r | :( ... :p |
| 23:39.20 | abrotman | ola__: uhm .. your monitor has two screens ? |
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| 23:39.56 | Drevay | smoke break |
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| 23:40.15 | JordiGH | Oh, right. xaralx |
| 23:40.18 | JordiGH | !info xaralx |
| 23:40.21 | _2intense | fas3r: you'll find examples on the net, but the matter is, use forwarding between the local nets (like a local router) and upstream from the default gw towards the internet. a forward rule will do, check the howtos |
| 23:40.22 | dpkg | xaralx: (Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program), section non-free/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.7r1692-2 (sid), Packaged size: 4783 kB, Installed size: 11820 kB |
| 23:40.34 | ola__ | abrotman: Each screen is attached to one monitor" |
| 23:40.43 | JordiGH | It's in non-free right now, but I think they're working out some chinks so they can move it down to main. |
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| 23:41.01 | _2intense | don't even mention smoking, I quit 10 days ago for the kids LOL |
| 23:41.17 | ola__ | abrotman: by "screen" I am referring to what X calls a "screen", which is different (usually part of) a "display" |
| 23:41.21 | abrotman | ola__: hrm .. i'd guess you'd have to monkey with your X config .. |
| 23:41.29 | abrotman | maybe ask #xorg |
| 23:41.33 | abrotman | i dont' think it's a gnome issue |
| 23:41.35 | fas3r | _2intense: ok thank for your help i have better understand " I will come back " after my congratulation :p |
| 23:41.42 | fas3r | see you soon everybody |
| 23:41.48 | ola__ | s/is different/is different from/g |
| 23:42.01 | _2intense | fas3r: I'm really honoured to help |
| 23:42.03 | _2intense | really |
| 23:42.05 | _2intense | :) |
| 23:42.09 | _2intense | that makes me happy :) |
| 23:42.15 | fas3r | not certain .. :p |
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| 23:42.29 | fas3r | thank ;) |
| 23:42.38 | _2intense | that's probably why I've been in support for the last 10 yrs lol |
| 23:42.39 | fas3r | see you soon :p |
| 23:42.40 | fas3r | +++ |
| 23:42.43 | _2intense | see ya :) |
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| 23:42.54 | _2intense | ATH+++ |
| 23:42.57 | _2intense | LOL |
| 23:43.05 | _2intense | if someone still remembers that |
| 23:43.26 | ola__ | abrotman: It's not an "issue", it works great for the normal use-case (shows up automagically on both screens), I am just trying to find a way to make it only start on one of them (DISPLAY :0.1) and leave the other one unmanaged. |
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| 23:43.46 | abrotman | ola__: it's an "issue" for you :) |
| 23:43.54 | ola__ | is anyone here aware of a method to achieve that? |
| 23:44.02 | ola__ | abrotman: werd. |
| 23:44.04 | abrotman | ola__: that's why i mentioned #xorg |
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| 23:44.39 | _2intense | ola__: let me understand, do you want not to initialize a separate monitor on the same vga as part of the same display config? |
| 23:45.02 | jetscreamer | !savage |
| 23:45.02 | dpkg | http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
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| 23:45.25 | Dexter_F | gotta run |
| 23:45.34 | ola__ | _2intense: no, I just want to have gnome not draw anything on one of my screens. |
| 23:46.04 | JordiGH | The etch installer seems to have the annoying feature that you cannot easily select all locales to be installed. |
| 23:46.17 | nils_ | why would you want all locales? |
| 23:46.25 | JordiGH | I'm on my eighth computer now where I spend about two minutes quickly hitting the down and space key to get them all selected. :-/ |
| 23:46.26 | _2intense | ola__: so you want X, just not gnome? |
| 23:46.28 | JordiGH | nils_: Why not? |
| 23:46.44 | JordiGH | nils_: In case we ever get some Zimbabwian prof here, man, I'm gonna give him Debian in his language. |
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| 23:46.51 | jetscreamer | dpkg, savage is also if it locks up when 3d is enabled, try Option "DmaMode" "Vertex" in the Device section of xorg.conf |
| 23:46.52 | dpkg | jetscreamer: okay |
| 23:46.55 | _2intense | I don't use any locale LOL |
| 23:47.07 | nils_ | JordiGH: good point. |
| 23:47.07 | _2intense | and I'm not a native Eng speaker |
| 23:47.13 | nils_ | personally I hate localized linux |
| 23:47.18 | jetscreamer | i've seen a 'select all locales' option |
| 23:47.34 | jetscreamer | i don't remember where, but probably dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:47.48 | _2intense | I hate locales, another dispersion of work. learn english. i did. LOL |
| 23:47.59 | jetscreamer | see also dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 23:48.31 | ola__ | _2intense: no, X works fine, gnome-session is spawning 2 nautilus windows (one for each screen, on the root window). I would like to find a way to tell gnome not to do this. |
| 23:48.45 | nils_ | _2intense: also most translations are crappy or just overdone... |
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| 23:49.38 | _2intense | nils_: if you've ever seen any Spanish or Italian translation you'll see why I've stuck with Eng for the last 15 years |
| 23:49.39 | JordiGH | nils_: I hate it too. But it's not up to me to decide for others what language to use. |
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| 23:49.46 | _2intense | and emigrated too LOL |
| 23:49.49 | nils_ | JordiGH: yes ;) |
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| 23:50.53 | _2intense | Linux is a great chance to learn, you might as well learn techie english as well. no prob with localized docs. but localized os's? no thanks |
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| 23:52.25 | Arrick | anyone have a link for the latest ne installer |
| 23:52.33 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 23:52.34 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 23:52.39 | Arrick | the one on the debian.org site is down |
| 23:53.01 | Drevay | is anybody familiar with OVGuide.com? |
| 23:53.13 | Drevay | i'm trying to get the videos to play, they're imbedded into the page |
| 23:53.14 | _2intense | I was there when one of the servers was compromised. not nice LOL |
| 23:53.16 | Arrick | yep, all the i386 ones are down |
| 23:53.23 | Drevay | using totem-xine |
| 23:53.28 | JordiGH | Arrick: Tried using torrents? |
| 23:53.28 | jetscreamer | try mozilla-mplayer |
| 23:53.32 | abrotman | Arrick: down ? |
| 23:53.42 | Drevay | tried it, attempts to play and then stops |
| 23:53.44 | jetscreamer | there is a xine mozilla plugin also |
| 23:53.46 | Arrick | yes, as in page not found on 3 different networks |
| 23:53.50 | jetscreamer | also a vlc one |
| 23:53.52 | Drevay | i'll try that |
| 23:53.53 | abrotman | Arrick: you want the 4.0 or the testing netinst ? |
| 23:54.00 | Arrick | I want the stable release |
| 23:54.05 | abrotman | ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386 |
| 23:54.25 | _2intense | stable is very stable, even too stable :P |
| 23:54.28 | Arrick | thanks, that opens, which one is the ne version? |
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| 23:54.46 | _2intense | the ISO |
| 23:54.47 | abrotman | Arrick: one that says netinst :) |
| 23:55.20 | Arrick | look at the site I was given, none say that |
| 23:55.35 | abrotman | ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/bt-cd/debian-40r0-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
| 23:55.39 | abrotman | sure? |
| 23:55.46 | _2intense | I can't use a netinst with my connection, people in the US will laugh at me but that's the truhth :P |
| 23:55.49 | Arrick | thanks |
| 23:56.02 | dondelelcaro | Arrick: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ <-- has them listed as the first line |
| 23:56.05 | Arrick | yeah, i looked in there, only 6 items were listed |
| 23:56.14 | jetscreamer | Arrick: goodbye-windows.com |
| 23:56.19 | jetscreamer | works fine |
| 23:56.20 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: missing |
| 23:56.21 | Arrick | lol |
| 23:56.26 | jetscreamer | seriously |
| 23:56.29 | Drevay | i can speak from experience that netinst is the way to go |
| 23:56.30 | JordiGH | There's also goodbye-microsoft.com |
| 23:56.33 | jetscreamer | won't delete windows |
| 23:56.37 | jetscreamer | same site btw |
| 23:56.37 | Drevay | saves downloading 7 or so iso's :) |
| 23:56.40 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: maybe in prep for r1 ? |
| 23:56.44 | stoned | jetscreamer: yo |
| 23:56.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but the ISO directory is empty |
| 23:56.47 | dondelelcaro | oh, it looks like cdimage is down |
| 23:56.48 | jetscreamer | hey |
| 23:56.48 | stoned | Arrick: my main man dude homie bro |
| 23:57.12 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it links to r1, actually. |
| 23:57.21 | Arrick | hey abrotman I look before I speak, and the torrent isnt working |
| 23:57.23 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:57.30 | stoned | Drevay: I second that one; netinst. |
| 23:57.31 | abrotman | Arrick: ack! |
| 23:57.37 | jetscreamer | Arrick: if you have windows on that box, use the link luke |
| 23:57.38 | dondelelcaro | so it's just a case of cdimage not being working right now |
| 23:57.39 | sparr | im trying to use an old ibook hard drive for a linux installation. qtparted is telling me the partition changes cannot be committed, that i should unmount the drive. it is not mounted. if i edit the partition table in fdisk and reboot then fdisk sees the changes but qtparted still sees the old weird mac partition layout. help? |
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| 23:57.58 | Arrick | bt-cd, bt-dvd, iso-dvd, iso-cd, jidgo-cd, jidgo-dvd are my choises there at the ftp abrotman |
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| 23:58.11 | jetscreamer | sparr: i know nothing ... does dd'ing it help? |
| 23:58.20 | Smerdyakov | Where can I set the resolution from the gdm/Gnome greeter screen, where I enter my username/password after boot-up is done? |
| 23:58.22 | Arrick | jetscreamer cant, imaging that server, and want the DL done before its done imaging |
| 23:58.25 | sparr | worth a try, just fill it with 0s? |
| 23:58.39 | Smerdyakov | Sorry, I meant _for_ that screen, not _from_ it. |
| 23:58.46 | jetscreamer | sparr: yeah dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever |
| 23:58.52 | dondelelcaro | Arrick: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ has the full list of mirrors of cdimage.debian.org |
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| 23:59.26 | jetscreamer | sparr: but i know 'nothing' about macs |
| 23:59.31 | _2intense | my friends, it was a pleasure talking to you, I'm gonna sleep now :) |
| 23:59.33 | jetscreamer | i saw a mac, once |
| 23:59.35 | _2intense | night! |
| 23:59.39 | stoned | Smerdyakov: for that, you'd have to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf or run !drxx (/msg dpkg drxx) |
| 23:59.43 | dondelelcaro | but it looks like cdimage went down while a mirror pulse was going on |
| 23:59.59 | Smerdyakov | stoned, no, xorg.conf only affects the resolution once I'm logged in. |
