| 00:00.00 | freeone3000 | Ah. That sucks. |
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| 00:00.46 | js_ | pickcoder: same thing :( |
| 00:00.47 | concept10 | karsten, i dont know why it couldnt do that. it keeps a log of changes, right? |
| 00:00.48 | pickcoder | concept10: it depends on the package. if it's a psuedo package that points to others then you can just uninstall it |
| 00:01.11 | moshii | you make up for working by buying stupid stuff like arcade machines :) |
| 00:01.29 | Jonny | Debian question for you: apt-getting vncserver on a newly installed server (running a 2.6.8 kernel, installed using 'linux26' from the boot prompt on the netinst cd), and apt is trying to remove the kernel image as part of the process :/ Anyone know why on earth it is doing this? |
| 00:01.38 | Jonny | It gives me the option of choosing, and I choose no since I would like to keep the system alive :) |
| 00:02.13 | moshii | Jonny: not using aptitude? |
| 00:02.18 | pickcoder | js_: what do you want RAID5? |
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| 00:02.43 | Jonny | moshii, not at the moment. Just loaded it up and it indicates that it would like to remove that kernel image, essentially. |
| 00:03.02 | moshii | Jonny: hmm that's not good heh |
| 00:03.18 | pickcoder | Jonny: if it's Sarge->Etch, then it's a bug I've been able to replicate |
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| 00:03.51 | pickcoder | I just don't have any info to file a bug report |
| 00:03.51 | Jonny | It's a Sarge netinst ISO |
| 00:03.52 | pickcoder | Jonny: ? |
| 00:03.57 | Jonny | It was installed off* a Sarge netinst ISO |
| 00:03.57 | pickcoder | oh |
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| 00:04.09 | pickcoder | hm |
| 00:04.19 | js_ | pickcoder: because of what it gives, but im really considering two raid1 volumes instead now |
| 00:04.45 | Jonny | pickcoder, is there an easy way to install a new default kernel image of a newer kernel? |
| 00:04.55 | pickcoder | js_: it will work. I just think something was botched initially and you need to wipe all traces of the array.. remove all devices, delete the array, etc |
| 00:04.58 | js_ | Jonny: using backports.org its quite easy |
| 00:05.00 | Jonny | I'd rather not try to compile one myself and run the risk of making it unbootable |
| 00:05.12 | js_ | pickcoder: ive zeroed the superblocks if thats what you mean |
| 00:05.17 | js_ | pickcoder: several times |
| 00:05.19 | Jonny | js_, thanks I'll check it out |
| 00:05.23 | pickcoder | Jonny: 2.6.8 is the latest on Sarge.. but when you dist-upgrade to Etch, it botches the kernel and initrd setup |
| 00:05.35 | pickcoder | If it's happening on Sarge package installs |
| 00:05.40 | pickcoder | then something is definately fubar |
| 00:06.02 | Jonny | Ah, well I haven't done any dist-upgrades yet :) |
| 00:06.04 | eduhat | hey, this guy in wireless is telling me that i need to use the hostap driver for my card. it is a prism2.5 card so i assume he is right. how would i enable the hostap driver, or how would i get it? |
| 00:06.11 | pickcoder | let's comapre |
| 00:06.12 | Jonny | This system is literally just installed |
| 00:06.21 | pickcoder | does it say it'll remove the kernel-image for 2.6.8 |
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| 00:06.32 | pickcoder | but it does not recommend a newer kernel-image |
| 00:06.34 | Jonny | Yea |
| 00:06.38 | Jonny | Nope |
| 00:06.40 | pickcoder | and it does not say it will keep back the kernel-image |
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| 00:06.58 | pickcoder | it also says it will remove initrd-tools |
| 00:07.06 | Jonny | It's that message - it will remove the kernel image, this is not recommended, it will remove your modules as well, we seriously recommend you say no, etc |
| 00:07.21 | Jonny | It was trying to install initrd-tools ;o |
| 00:07.31 | Jonny | Since I did not have those in before I ran the command |
| 00:07.42 | pickcoder | hm |
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| 00:08.05 | pickcoder | someone seriously needs to look at the kernel package for Sarge |
| 00:08.26 | pickcoder | Jonny: is there any way you can go back to 2.4? |
| 00:08.34 | pickcoder | never mind |
| 00:08.41 | Jonny | pickcoder, apologies, I've just noticed |
| 00:08.43 | pickcoder | it'll probably botch it up worse |
| 00:08.47 | Jonny | It *did* remove initrdtools |
| 00:08.47 | crn | Jonny, apt-cache show kernel-image-2.6-(your arch) |
| 00:09.07 | pickcoder | Jonny: does it say it wants to install initramfs but it won't be installed? |
| 00:09.34 | eduhat | hey, this guy in wireless is telling me that i need to use the hostap driver for my card. it is a prism2.5 card so i assume he is right. how would i enable the hostap driver, or how would i get it??? |
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| 00:10.19 | creature | eduhat: You probably already have it. If you rmmod the orinoco module, you can modprobe hostap . |
| 00:10.36 | Jonny | pickcoder: http://code.bulix.org/d9dtcx-26774 |
| 00:10.43 | Jonny | You'll need to scroll down a little to see the paste. |
| 00:10.49 | creature | eduhat: You'll want hostap-utils too. |
| 00:10.56 | eduhat | but i dont want to use any windows drivers. i need to use kismet so that means no windows stuff |
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| 00:11.22 | creature | You're thinking of ndiswrapper there. This is not the same. |
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| 00:12.22 | eduhat | oh okay. so how could i do this? |
| 00:12.39 | kombi_ | what's the kernel setting for athlon x2, smp and athlon64? |
| 00:13.04 | pickcoder | k7-smp |
| 00:13.27 | eduhat | creature: can you help me get the hostap driver working? |
| 00:13.29 | Jonny | pickcoder, does that paste help? |
| 00:14.10 | _Brandon_ | hi i've a problem with locales settings -> http://pastebin.ca/286911 |
| 00:14.10 | kombi_ | pickcoder: sure? athlon64 did boot but behaved funny.. |
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| 00:14.12 | creature | eduhat: As I say, use rmmod to remove the orinoco module, then use modprobe to load the hostap and/or hostap_pci modules. And that should be it. |
| 00:14.12 | pickcoder | it looks like the same issue, but different because you're not doing a dist-upgrade |
| 00:14.12 | pickcoder | I think there is a dependency issue there |
| 00:14.12 | creature | eduhat: hostap-utils has some utilities, and you'll want the general wireless utilities. |
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| 00:14.16 | pickcoder | kombi_: do you really need a 64-bit kernel? |
| 00:14.27 | creature | eduhat: wireless-tools is the package there. |
| 00:14.47 | kombi_ | pickcoder: don't know, just need some muscle for tremendous load |
| 00:14.50 | pickcoder | Jonny: look at crn's comment |
| 00:15.05 | pickcoder | 64-bits will only help for number crunching |
| 00:15.14 | pickcoder | it won't make processes execute considerably faster |
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| 00:15.17 | pickcoder | they're still 32-bit |
| 00:15.18 | Jonny | I noticed. I see two kernels, one is the version I have, the other is 2.6.18 for 486 |
| 00:15.28 | eduhat | creature: i do understand what your saying... and what i have to do, i just dont know how |
| 00:16.16 | pickcoder | kombi_: your choice though.. if you want 64-bit you'll need the amd64 install |
| 00:16.30 | pickcoder | it comes with 64-bit libs |
| 00:16.36 | kombi_ | pickcoder: understood. The thing is that load went up to 10 with 64, which I thought is funny.. |
| 00:16.43 | creature | eduhat: su to root. Run "apt-get install wireless-tools hostap-utils". Run "rmmod orinoco". Run "modprobe hostap_pci". |
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| 00:17.28 | _Brandon_ | anyone could help me with locales problem? |
| 00:17.30 | kombi_ | can you safely ctrl-c during kpkg-make? |
| 00:17.30 | creature | eduhat: Then use iwconfig to configure your card. That's very network-dependent, I'm afraid. |
| 00:17.47 | anapivirtua_ | NIghty. |
| 00:17.57 | eduhat | creature: when i do rmmod orinoco it says that the device or resource is busy |
| 00:18.06 | pickcoder | Jonny: I have a feeling that gcc and/or libc6 may be a root of the problem |
| 00:18.09 | creature | Ah, are you using its network connection now? |
| 00:18.23 | pickcoder | unfortunately, 2.6.8 is still linked to older releases |
| 00:18.23 | crn | Jonny, you can put a hold on the kernel you want. Then aptitude won't try to update it. |
| 00:18.32 | eduhat | creature: nope. do i need to specify the device? |
| 00:18.39 | creature | eduhat: If it's on, say, eth0, then do "ifconfig eth0 down". Note that this will knock you offline if it's the one you're trying to use right now... |
| 00:18.48 | pickcoder | crn: that kernel deal stomped a live box here yesterday |
| 00:18.59 | pickcoder | I ended up having to wipe and re-install after a dist-upgrade |
| 00:19.01 | Jonny | crn, I just apt-get'd it |
| 00:19.09 | creature | eduhat - see if it's currently an up interface, using ifconfig. |
| 00:19.12 | kombi_ | pickcoder: can you safely ctrl-c during make-kpkg? I'm rolling another 64 kernel now.. |
| 00:19.13 | Jonny | Have I sinned? :o |
| 00:19.14 | crn | pickcoder, oops! |
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| 00:19.18 | eduhat | creature: right now im connected through eth0, but that is wired... eth1 is the wireless |
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| 00:19.32 | creature | OK then. Try ifconfig eth1 down; rmmod orinoco |
| 00:19.39 | pickcoder | kombi_: sure.. Make will pick back on the last object that was compiled |
| 00:19.40 | kombi_ | weired or wired;) |
| 00:19.52 | eduhat | creature: same thing |
| 00:19.53 | kombi_ | thanks pickcoder |
| 00:19.55 | gcbirzan | pickcoder: And make-kpkg will run make clean. :-D |
| 00:20.04 | pickcoder | gcbirzan: it does? |
| 00:20.06 | eduhat | creature: still is busy |
| 00:20.08 | pickcoder | grr |
| 00:20.10 | pickcoder | never mind! |
| 00:20.32 | kombi_ | gcbirzan: not until you tell it to |
| 00:20.33 | pickcoder | I never stopped make-kpkg |
| 00:20.44 | creature | eduhat: Surprising. Do you have any tools using it at the moment? wpasupplicant? A config tool? |
| 00:20.49 | pickcoder | bbl |
| 00:20.50 | eduhat | maybe |
| 00:21.07 | eduhat | but the device is "down" |
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| 00:21.20 | kombi_ | the next 64 is just readily baked, I'll give that a shot first, be back in a few |
| 00:21.35 | gcbirzan | kombi_: Upun trying to build the kernel images again, first thing it does is make clean. |
| 00:21.45 | gcbirzan | Or at least, last time I bothered with building my own kernel. :-P |
| 00:22.15 | doublehp | in which file shall I tweak smtp_accept_max for exim ? conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options and update-exim4.conf.conf do not do it ... |
| 00:22.16 | kombi_ | gcbirzan: actually, you have to do a make-kpkg clean for that, just tried.. |
| 00:22.29 | gcbirzan | kombi_: And asking it to build a new image doesn't clean? |
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| 00:23.10 | kombi_ | gcbirzan: you mean by giving it a different revision name, no, seems not.. |
| 00:23.19 | creature | eduhat: It might be worthwhile to look at your /etc/modules file to see if orinoco is loaded there. If so, remove that line and reboot. |
| 00:23.23 | pablo | why isnt firefox the default browser? |
| 00:23.34 | abrotman | in what? |
| 00:23.36 | Ronin | pablo: why would it be? |
| 00:23.49 | creature | eduhat: This isn't ideal, I know, but it should mean that nothing is using it. |
| 00:23.54 | pablo | Ronin: because it is better |
| 00:23.57 | eduhat | creature: nope. just ide-cd, ide-detect, ide-disk, and psmouse |
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| 00:24.36 | doublehp | pablo: default for what ? |
| 00:24.36 | sanmarcos2 | does debian have statistics of what users use stable/testing/unstable ? |
| 00:24.42 | creature | While we're talking firefox, when can we expect a Firefox 2 package? |
| 00:24.56 | sanmarcos2 | creature, soon |
| 00:24.59 | doublehp | sanmarcos2: yes |
| 00:25.00 | creature | eduhat: Then I'm sorry, I don't know why it's reported as in use. |
| 00:25.04 | gcbirzan | pablo: Better than what? |
| 00:25.05 | sanmarcos2 | doublehp, where? |
| 00:25.09 | Ronin | pablo: better for what? by who's definition of better |
| 00:25.13 | eduhat | creature: allright, thx for the help anyways |
| 00:25.16 | doublehp | sanmarcos2: no se; but they do |
| 00:25.26 | Ronin | bear in mind thats the broswer i tend to use |
| 00:25.34 | Ronin | that or galeon |
| 00:25.44 | pablo | i installed debian and it comes with nautilus as default |
| 00:25.52 | doublehp | pablo: for which app do you want FF to be defaultt browser ?? |
| 00:25.52 | pablo | and i consider firefox better |
| 00:26.12 | Ronin | pablo: then install it |
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| 00:26.27 | Ronin | problem solved |
| 00:27.03 | doublehp | pablo: for thundzerbird, there is a tip on mozilla.org; for xpdf, I have open a bug in debian and gentoo BTS ... I left a comment with the solution |
| 00:27.04 | abrotman | pablo: how did you install gnome? did you try installing FF ? |
| 00:28.14 | doublehp | in which file shall I tweak smtp_accept_max for exim ? conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options and update-exim4.conf.conf do not do it ... |
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| 00:30.23 | pablo | the netinstall wants to download 750 packages |
| 00:30.34 | pablo | isnt that much? |
| 00:30.35 | eduhat | anyone else know how i could uninstall the ornico drivers? |
| 00:30.42 | creature | Do any of you use an ipod with your Linux system? What do you use to put music on and off it? |
| 00:30.45 | eduhat | i might also have to uninstall hermes too |
| 00:31.08 | creature | eduhat: Despite what the guy on #wireless will have you believe, you don't need to uninstall it. You just need to stop it loading. |
| 00:31.13 | karsten | eduhat: man rmmod |
| 00:31.21 | Ronin | pablo: depends what you choose to install |
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| 00:32.17 | karsten | pablo: Debian packages tend to be more atomic (and smaller) than RH packages, say. Multiplier factor is about 1.2 - 1.4. Eg: dev, docs, and common vs. client/server stuff is broken out. |
| 00:32.24 | pablo | Ronin: desktop and standard system |
| 00:32.29 | eduhat | allright, then does anyone know how i could stop the orinoco or hermes drivers from loading that way i could have the hostap_pci driver load? |
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| 00:32.38 | Ronin | pablo: in that case no its not really |
| 00:32.39 | karsten | pablo: I'll assume you've selected a few additional packages as well. 750 packages total is a pretty light load. |
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| 00:33.09 | rfrank | x_x |
| 00:33.10 | franziskaner | cureless smacnay buu tonyb2006 k31th Eclipser Pryon xfli Fox slummer numist |ryan| sussudio Piggy Locke0 panthera EnterUserName jkdsoft scoopex Teppich xorix minerale atrus tarzeau Supaplex dmc shay tomaw BlueByte dondelelcaro ApTek theklone asg suteri_ eye69 ralf-x Ferret Deepa|AFK Amorphous derril Wink|Work port7 Langer js_ keith80403 @debhelper karsten roo9 bloo_sky oll1 xdr dimm0k peterS erxz_paste @ChanServ |
| 00:33.10 | cafuego_ | !ops franziskaner spam |
| 00:33.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: cafuego_ complains about: franziskaner spam |
| 00:33.15 | franziskaner | nemo ekix Kobaz cmeme Ra1stlin petemc |
| 00:33.15 | dan2 | BOOT HIS ASS |
| 00:33.16 | Avochelm | wtf |
| 00:33.18 | karsten | rfrank: /ingore |
| 00:33.20 | peteweez | eeyore- help |
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| 00:33.23 | karsten | rfrank: /ignore even. |
| 00:33.23 | peteweez | oh good |
| 00:33.27 | peteweez | finally |
| 00:33.29 | dan2 | someone ban him |
| 00:33.29 | rfrank | geez |
| 00:33.35 | eduhat | allright, then does anyone know how i could stop the orinoco or hermes drivers from loading that way i could have the hostap_pci driver load? |
| 00:33.36 | ifdefudu | lol |
| 00:33.36 | ifdefudu | jews |
| 00:33.37 | peteweez | wtf was he doing?!!! |
| 00:33.38 | Ronin | another day on efnet |
| 00:33.42 | Ronin | pardon ifdefudu |
| 00:33.42 | SmallR2003 | where the devil is stew when you want him? |
| 00:33.43 | anddreaz | ? |
| 00:33.45 | Ronin | efnet? heh |
| 00:33.47 | dvs | petemc: pissing us off! |
| 00:33.56 | smiler | o.o |
| 00:33.56 | Avochelm | what was the point of that? |
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| 00:33.58 | gentgeen__ | what was that??? |
| 00:33.58 | Ronin | forgot where i was |
| 00:34.02 | cafuego_ | peteweez: pasting the channel suer list, so he triggers autohilight. I'm not sure what the point is. |
| 00:34.02 | peteweez | dvs: was he cracking or something |
| 00:34.07 | Ronin | Avochelm: just to cause havoc |
| 00:34.11 | Avochelm | lol |
| 00:34.18 | peteweez | that was actually pretty funny |
| 00:34.24 | doublehp | eduhat: heheheeh .... I have always thought these packages should conflits, because installing hostap changes /etc a way that can not be undone ! |
| 00:34.28 | Ronin | better then that gnaa crap at least |
| 00:34.32 | doublehp | eduhat: you are up for reinstall :) |
| 00:34.35 | Coweater | Avochelm: it's to piss off the channel, so everyone spews a bunch of useless lines complaining about him, looks like he succeded |
| 00:34.55 | doublehp | eduhat: had the problem; re-installed |
| 00:35.01 | eduhat | doublehp: are you serios??? well then ill just use the orinoco driver |
| 00:35.15 | karsten | pablo: My systems tend to have 1-3k packages installed. |
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| 00:35.24 | karsten | pablo: There's some 20k packages in all of Debian. |
| 00:35.26 | creature | I've never heard of hostap messing with /etc. |
| 00:35.26 | doublehp | eduhat: hostap package is hell |
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| 00:35.41 | creature | doublehp: Are you sure you're not thinking of hostapd? |
| 00:35.49 | eduhat | creature: yea me neither.. ive done this once b4.... just dont remember how |
| 00:35.52 | doublehp | eduhat: you may find an alternative; but I gave up |
| 00:35.59 | pablo | karsten: ok i thought it was to much i see i was wrong |
| 00:36.00 | eduhat | such as? |
| 00:36.15 | pablo | are debianeers against ubuntu? |
| 00:36.24 | rfrank | pablo, yes haha |
| 00:36.25 | zinx | no, but we can't help with ubuntu |
| 00:36.31 | dvs | pablo: yes! |
| 00:36.33 | EdLin | !ubuntu |
| 00:36.33 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is based on debian. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu . Thanks :) |
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| 00:36.42 | b0red | hi. where does where does pptpd read its password from? which file? |
| 00:36.42 | zinx | and we get rather annoyed if you ask ubuntu questions in here :P |
| 00:37.09 | pablo | lol |
| 00:37.50 | pablo | i just asked if you dislike it or you dont mind its existance |
| 00:37.52 | EdLin | pablo: if you want to ask questions about *any* distro's problems, there's ##linux |
| 00:38.19 | Ronin | pablo: not at all, we just get tired of ubuntu users coming here askig for help when theres a perfectly good #ubuntu |
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| 00:40.16 | zinx | Ronin: even in the abscence of #ubuntu, Ubuntu problems still aren't Debian problems :/ |
| 00:40.33 | _Brandon_ | pls anyone could help me with locales problems? |
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| 00:40.52 | jpduyx | pablo: i like both for different reasons |
| 00:40.55 | EdLin | !anyone |
| 00:40.55 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:41.18 | _Brandon_ | EdLin: i've asked before but noone responded |
| 00:41.23 | EdLin | hmmm, been away for a while, dpkg seems to have gotten more polite. |
| 00:41.36 | creature | Do any of you use an ipod with your Linux system? What do you use to put music on and off it? |
| 00:41.43 | EdLin | _Brandon_: maybe because you aren't specific enough. |
| 00:41.49 | Coweater | creature: gtkpod |
| 00:41.57 | pablo | any java ide debianeers like? |
| 00:42.11 | _Brandon_ | EdLin: i don't know :P [2006-12-21 01:13] <_Brandon_> hi i've a problem with locales settings -> http://pastebin.ca/286911 |
| 00:42.15 | creature | pablo: I like vim myself. |
| 00:42.50 | pablo | creature: do you use vim for java? |
| 00:42.57 | creature | pablo: Yes, I do. |
| 00:44.10 | Tidus | someone poke me? |
| 00:44.25 | Tidus | erg... stupid spam bot |
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| 00:44.39 | doublehp | Tidus: hehe :) |
| 00:44.57 | EdLin | if there's a spambot someone should use !ops |
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| 00:45.06 | rfrank | argh, getting amd64 debian installed is a pain |
| 00:45.38 | rfrank | I thought I had everything done then I tried to start gdm.. X wasn't installed haha |
| 00:45.41 | Tidus | really? hm... i've never had any real issues getting any debian installed. even PPC |
| 00:45.52 | raf256 | lets boot into new kernel! shell we? |
| 00:45.57 | EdLin | rfrank: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:45.58 | Kitu | élo |
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| 00:46.22 | Tidus | rfrank, yes, i used to have an OLD G3 mac (i think it was 300mhz) running woody |
| 00:46.37 | Kitu | why gnome don't give access to me for mounted partitions ? |
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| 00:46.45 | Kitu | it try to remounte |
| 00:46.49 | Kitu | it try to remount |
| 00:46.58 | Kitu | and it's busy |
| 00:47.00 | Kitu | ... :( |
| 00:48.11 | Kitu | why don't gnome give access to me for mounted partitions ? (so british) |
| 00:48.33 | pipeline | Kitu: add yourself to the plugdev group, log out, and log back in. |
| 00:48.46 | Kitu | plugdev group ? |
| 00:48.58 | Kitu | ok i watch |
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| 00:50.09 | Kitu | pipeline# my user is already in |
| 00:50.18 | Kitu | oups no sorry |
| 00:50.29 | luckykar | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 00:50.43 | utopia | hi everybody |
| 00:51.03 | luckykar | msg dpkg guidelines |
| 00:51.07 | Kitu | pipeline# i don't have plugdev but powerdev or fuse ... |
| 00:51.13 | utopia | any software raid / lvm experts here |
| 00:51.20 | Kitu | or gdm |
| 00:51.33 | pipeline | Kitu: Then the problem isn't with gnome-volume-manager. |
| 00:51.36 | Kitu | netdev too |
| 00:51.43 | Kitu | hum ok |
| 00:51.49 | pipeline | utopia: Ask a real question. Polls won't get you anywhere. And no, don't address the real question to me. |
| 00:51.57 | utopia | oke |
| 00:52.00 | utopia | good idea |
| 00:52.10 | abrotman | oh .. we had one of those once |
| 00:52.30 | utopia | i want to install debian on software raid + lvm but i don't seem to get lilo or grub installed |
| 00:52.45 | utopia | it done it a few time but this time i'm totaly glueless |
| 00:52.55 | abrotman | !glue |
| 00:53.01 | abrotman | darn bot |
| 00:53.28 | utopia | it's about debian sarge by the way |
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| 00:54.37 | doublehp | in which file shall I tweak smtp_accept_max for exim ? conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options and update-exim4.conf.conf do not do it ... |
| 00:54.43 | aliasd | ... |
| 00:55.00 | aliasd | i hate it when they spam nicks and make you look at the logs |
| 00:56.16 | markw | aliasd: just make your history buffer bigger. |
| 00:56.31 | Kitu | pipeline# it was already installed but no gnome-mount, i did and i reinstalled gnome-volume-manager but no plugdev group, so i'm going to try to reboot |
| 00:56.33 | abrotman | bigger? |
| 00:56.48 | rahul | I'll show you bigger |
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| 00:57.21 | utopia | got any answers |
| 00:57.35 | Cyis | Kitu: that would be because Debian uses pmount rather than gnome-mount... check the dependencies on g-v-m |
| 00:57.36 | Kitu | pipeline# for groups i watch in gnome assistant users and groups manager is it good no ? |
| 00:57.52 | Kitu | humm |
| 00:57.58 | aliasd | markw, i dont like using the history buffer |
| 00:58.05 | Cyis | and if you have both pmount and gnome-mount installed then the conflict and you have trouble unmounting devices |
| 00:58.14 | Kitu | g-v-m or g-d-m Cyis ? |
| 00:58.24 | Cyis | gnome-volume-manager |
| 00:58.28 | Kitu | oh ok |
| 00:58.32 | aliasd | no matter how big it is you can end up going all thru it and having to consult the logs anyway |
| 00:58.42 | eduhat | creature: how did you say i could load hostap ? |
| 00:58.46 | aliasd | its just a waste of time |
| 00:58.58 | creature | eduhat: modprobe hostap |
| 00:59.00 | Cyis | I've got Debian Etch at work and Fedora Core 6 here at home... |
| 00:59.03 | Kitu | Cyis# then i remove gnome-mount |
| 00:59.04 | creature | eduhat: or modprobe hostap_pci |
| 00:59.09 | creature | If it's a PCI card you've got. |
| 00:59.11 | malverian | frankie: Oops.. that was meant for someone else :) |
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| 00:59.25 | ifdefudu | does linux still use reiser fs? |
| 00:59.40 | ifdefudu | i wouldnt suppport a murderer if i were linux |
| 00:59.42 | Kitu | Cyis# and me debian unstable in etch base |
| 00:59.46 | eduhat | creature: the card goes into a pcmcia slot... when i put that command in it says that it could not locate the module |
| 01:00.13 | malverian | ifdefudu: Governments have contributed to Linux.. they are mass murderers. |
| 01:00.25 | creature | eduhat: What kernel are you using? |
| 01:00.42 | eduhat | creature: no idea |
| 01:00.55 | creature | eduhat: What does uname -a say? |
| 01:00.58 | eduhat | 2.4.27-3-386 |
| 01:00.58 | malverian | ifdefudu: But they create useful code, so their contributions are accepted. |
| 01:01.04 | ifdefudu | malverian, yeah and its always the societys fault |
| 01:01.24 | creature | eduhat: OK, you're going to need a 2.6 kernel for this. |
| 01:01.29 | Kitu | Cyis# that don't resolve the pb |
| 01:01.40 | Cyis | My current challenge is to figure out how to get both systems to handle my LUKS enabled USB drives... Etch handles it but uses pmount so the mount points are different than those used by gnome-mount... However I do know that gnome-mount on Etch does handle the LUKS drives fine if I pumount them first then ran gnome-mount on command line |
| 01:01.40 | cureless | ifdefudu: we're not sure he did it. Also, we're not sure of other possible murderers that contribute to open source that haven't been caught |
| 01:01.51 | Kitu | gnome-mount was not installed before |
| 01:02.00 | Kitu | and not pludev group |
| 01:02.02 | Kitu | no* |
| 01:02.02 | Cyis | On my FC6 system it prompts for the LUKS password but is unable to automount it |
| 01:02.05 | ifdefudu | but he did it |
| 01:02.08 | ifdefudu | hes still in arrest |
| 01:02.19 | Cyis | Kitu: the user has to be in the plugdev group |
| 01:02.19 | eduhat | creature: is it hard to update? |
| 01:02.22 | malverian | ifdefudu: They haven't found a body. |
| 01:02.24 | Cyis | on Debian systems |
| 01:02.34 | cureless | ifdefudu: has there been conclusive evidence? |
| 01:02.36 | creature | eduhat: It's not hard, but I'm not sure exactly what you're going to have to do to do it. |
| 01:02.36 | malverian | ifdefudu: Nor has he been proved guilty in a court of law. |
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| 01:02.41 | ifdefudu | he stored it in his computer |
| 01:02.42 | ifdefudu | maybe |
| 01:02.50 | Cyis | which I think is unnecesary as the use of HAL should manage by policy not group membership |
| 01:02.53 | Kitu | but i can't see this group ? |
| 01:03.03 | eduhat | creature: should i ask someone to help me through it.. then get back to you for the hostap stuff? |
| 01:03.06 | malverian | ifdefudu: Maybe it's hidden in some algorithm that reiserfs uses ;) |
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| 01:03.16 | creature | eduhat: Well, I'm going to bed very soon, so probably not. |
| 01:03.20 | Cyis | plugdev should have been created when the package was installed |
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| 01:03.23 | Kitu | in my opinion i must just to reboot |
| 01:03.32 | Kitu | ok ok |
| 01:03.33 | eduhat | creature: allright... then ill just use the modprobe hostap |
| 01:03.33 | creature | eduhat: What kind of processor do you have in your PC? |
| 01:03.38 | malverian | ifdefudu: If you read every 2048th byte of any reiser fs it spells "I killed her" maybe? |
| 01:03.47 | ifdefudu | :) |
| 01:03.48 | eduhat | creature: its a p3 |
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| 01:04.20 | creature | eduhat: OK, try doing "apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686" then. |
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| 01:05.07 | ifdefudu | whatever, im pretty sure reiser did it |
| 01:05.09 | ifdefudu | :s |
| 01:05.19 | ifdefudu | i mean, he looks like a geek |
| 01:05.30 | blackelf | geek! |
| 01:06.00 | malverian | It's interesting that he had blood in the house and on his car seat.. and that his passenger seat is missing. |
| 01:06.13 | eduhat | creature: it says that it couldnt find the package linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 01:06.32 | ifdefudu | hide/hode/hidden? |
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| 01:06.47 | ifdefudu | or whats the past of hide? |
| 01:06.52 | ifdefudu | :s |
| 01:07.45 | eduhat | creature: first.. by us doing this will this help install the hostap driver? becuase that's what #wireless is telling me to do... they are saying i need to install the hostap driver and they said to ask in here |
| 01:08.02 | ifdefudu | m |
| 01:08.04 | ifdefudu | h |
| 01:08.12 | ifdefudu | i bought postal 2 share the pain for linux |
| 01:08.13 | ifdefudu | :D |
| 01:08.18 | ifdefudu | is that good or bad? :D |
| 01:08.28 | ifdefudu | i supported the linux game community i think |
| 01:08.30 | ifdefudu | :)) |
| 01:08.40 | creature | eduhat: Yes. You're using quite an old debian system, it seems. |
| 01:08.55 | creature | I don't think the hostap driver works on 2.4 kernels. It is in the 2.6 kernels, though. |
| 01:09.02 | eduhat | creature: allright. it couldnt find the package linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 01:09.07 | rahul | ifdefudu: shush |
| 01:09.16 | ifdefudu | rahul,? |
| 01:09.19 | ifdefudu | what? |
| 01:09.31 | creature | Essentially, you're missing the foundations for the hostap drivers. |
| 01:09.31 | rahul | ifdefudu;! |
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| 01:09.49 | ifdefudu | i should shut the fuck up? |
| 01:09.49 | ifdefudu | :D |
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| 01:10.00 | creature | eduhat: I'm afraid I really don't have the time right now to try and figure out just how old your system is, and the best way to update it. Maybe someone else here can lend you a hand. |
| 01:10.27 | eduhat | creature: allright. thx |
| 01:10.59 | creature | eduhat: You may find it useful to do "apt-get update" and then "apt-get upgrade", though. |
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| 01:11.15 | Kitu | hum |
| 01:11.22 | creature | eduhat: If you've never done this, then do "apt-get dist-upgrade" afterwards, and be prepared for some long downloads. |
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| 01:12.02 | eduhat | afterwards what? |
| 01:12.14 | creature | after the other two commands. |
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| 01:12.37 | ifdefudu | does the word "glühwein" exist in english? |
| 01:12.44 | eduhat | creature: oh okay.. right now it is install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 01:12.52 | ifdefudu | i dronk a whole buttl |
| 01:12.52 | ifdefudu | e |
| 01:12.52 | ifdefudu | bottle |
| 01:12.52 | ifdefudu | :) |
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| 01:12.55 | eduhat | creature: i used synaptic to find it :D |
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| 01:13.37 | Kitu | pipeline# i think that i will use kde same yes it is more big ... sux |
| 01:13.48 | ifdefudu | hm |
| 01:13.50 | ifdefudu | whatevre |
| 01:13.50 | ifdefudu | sorry |
| 01:13.50 | Kitu | at least it's more complete |
| 01:13.51 | creature | eduhat: OK. Well, after you've done that you will need to reboot. |
| 01:13.53 | ifdefudu | i go to bed |
| 01:13.57 | ifdefudu | its late |
| 01:13.58 | ifdefudu | :) |
| 01:14.02 | creature | Then, hopefully, you can remove the orinoco module and load the hostap modules. |
| 01:14.03 | ifdefudu | good night everybody |
| 01:14.07 | eduhat | creature: after rebooting what? |
| 01:14.07 | ifdefudu | *kiss* |
| 01:14.20 | creature | eduhat: After rebooting your PC. |
| 01:14.21 | eduhat | creature: i meant to say after rebooting what do i do... |
| 01:14.22 | eduhat | :D |
| 01:14.36 | eduhat | o0ops |
| 01:14.41 | creature | You do the rmmod and modprobe commands I've given you about three times already. |
| 01:14.50 | eduhat | oh okay |
| 01:15.08 | eduhat | rmmod orinoco then modprobe hostap_pci |
| 01:15.17 | creature | Indeed. |
| 01:15.20 | eduhat | cool |
| 01:16.18 | eduhat | b4 that should i run the "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 01:16.47 | eduhat | btw.. the kernel had a kernel panic |
| 01:17.26 | creature | eduhat: I don't really know what synaptic does. It may take care of that for you. |
| 01:17.33 | creature | But it can't really do any harm, so give it a shot. |
| 01:17.47 | eduhat | yeah.. the kernel paniced |
| 01:18.05 | creature | Did it give a message? |
| 01:18.14 | eduhat | uhm... hold on a sec |
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| 01:19.13 | eduhat | if i have to get the newest kernel.. i wouldnt mind re-install with the debian-net install cd... if that were to give me a new kernel |
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| 01:20.05 | creature | You shouldn't have to do that. |
| 01:20.14 | eduhat | allright |
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| 01:22.39 | usr_rob | hi, need some help please. i can only run "iscan" (scanner program) as root. when i try to run it as normal user i get this: "could not send command to scanner", any suggestions ? |
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| 01:23.02 | creature | usr_rob: Your user doesn't have permissions on the scanner device. |
| 01:23.03 | eduhat | allright |
| 01:23.10 | eduhat | the kernel booted this time :D |
| 01:23.21 | centrx | someone called? |
| 01:23.36 | iceeey | does anyone know if TV out of i915g works on debian? i just get a flicker on the TV when i switch to it, isn't working |
| 01:23.48 | usr_rob | creature, i did change the rights on /usr/bin/iscan but maybe i have to add myself to scanner group ? |
| 01:23.51 | creature | You'll need to find out which device in /dev controls your scanner, and then either add your user to the relevant group in /etc/group or chmod it to your wishes. |
| 01:24.03 | eduhat | creature: the kernel booted up :D |
| 01:24.03 | creature | usr_rob: It's not the rights on the program, it's the rights on the device. |
| 01:24.15 | creature | eduhat: Congratulations. Run uname -a to make sure you're on a 2.6 version. |
| 01:24.18 | usr_rob | creature, thx, alot! :) |
| 01:24.36 | eduhat | creature: should i run the "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 01:24.47 | creature | eduhat: You can. |
| 01:24.47 | eduhat | creature: i am on a 2.6 version kernel :D |
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| 01:25.18 | creature | eduhat: Congratulations. |
| 01:25.20 | eduhat | what does the dist-updrade do? |
| 01:25.57 | Guerin | eduhat: what it says in `man aptitude' |
| 01:25.57 | eduhat | upgrade my distro? |
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| 01:26.07 | creature | If necessary, yes. |
| 01:26.31 | creature | Basically, it'll drag your system right up to date, as long as you have something sane in /etc/apt/sources.list . |
| 01:26.56 | eduhat | creature: allright. well after apt-get upgrade is done im going to run rmmod orinoco then rmmod hermes then modprobe hostap_pci |
| 01:26.58 | eduhat | :D |
| 01:27.48 | creature | Erm, if it's a PCMCIA card you probably don't want to do the last one. |
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| 01:28.16 | eduhat | creature: oh, then what do i do? just modprobe hostap? |
| 01:28.26 | creature | Actually, you can, I think. Give it a shot. |
| 01:29.01 | eduhat | they are not found |
| 01:29.23 | creature | What is not found? |
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| 01:29.33 | eduhat | hostap and hostap_pci |
| 01:31.01 | creature | eduhat: Do "upgradedb" as root, then "locate hostap | grep ko" for me, would you? |
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| 01:31.35 | eduhat | upgradedb: command not found |
| 01:31.47 | creature | Oh, "updatedb". Sorry. |
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| 01:31.59 | eduhat | its running |
| 01:32.49 | eduhat | btw i appreciate all the help your providing to me |
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| 01:33.05 | usr_rob | creature, i now have access to the scanner, thx! |
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| 01:33.46 | creature | eduhat: Give me 5 minutes, OK? I need to get ready for bed. |
| 01:33.46 | kalila | why is a shell called a shell |
| 01:33.52 | kalila | differences between - terminal-shell-command line- etc...? |
| 01:33.55 | eduhat | creature: okay |
| 01:33.58 | creature | usr_rob: No problem, glad I could point you in the right direction. |
| 01:34.12 | usr_rob | :) |
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| 01:35.50 | aboyz | You know how you can setup your own spam filter, freespamfilter.com i use that guy. Is there a free proxy server setup guuide? anyone know if there a free proxy server setup guide? using squid or whatever is good for proxy and filering out stuff. |
| 01:36.19 | eduhat | creature: that locate hostap | grep ko came up with nothing |
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| 01:37.07 | creature | eduhat: You may need to upgrade to a more recent 2.6 kernel, then. |
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| 01:37.56 | pablo | hi i just finished installing debian but i see screen cut to half |
| 01:38.06 | pablo | it should be 1400 x 1050 |
| 01:38.23 | streuner | maybe the driver doesn't support that... |
| 01:38.39 | pablo | mmm |
| 01:38.50 | eduhat | creature: maybe.. when i did that apt-get upgrade it was saying stuff about both 2.6 kernel and the 2.4 kernel |
| 01:38.58 | streuner | choose a 'common' resolution |
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| 01:39.47 | pablo | streuner: thats the common resolution it comes by default on that notrbook i didnt chose it |
| 01:39.47 | creature | eduhat: Oh, in that case you need to do that thing with the wotsit. |
| 01:39.47 | creature | eduhat: If you're going to be vague, I'm going to be vague. |
| 01:39.50 | streuner | !drxx pablo |
| 01:39.51 | dpkg | pablo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:40.53 | eduhat | creature: allright. i dont know for sure what it sayd.. i cant check it again. i tried running the command again but it doesnt do anything this time |
| 01:41.41 | creature | Try doing the apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 again. |
| 01:42.15 | eduhat | creature: it doesnt find that command |
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| 01:42.28 | eduhat | im gunna do it again through synaptic |
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| 01:43.13 | creature | OK then. |
| 01:43.59 | creature | You're going to need a more up-to-date version than 2.6.8, basically. I'm on 2.6.18 on this laptop with hostap, though I *think* that hostap got into the main kernel at 2.6.10. I could be wrong about that though. |
| 01:44.02 | eduhat | i found a newer kernel version |
| 01:44.18 | mike1980 | Hi guys could someone please tell me how to fix this error "you do not have pyqt installed" when trying to open superkarmba? how do I add pyqt? |
| 01:44.32 | eduhat | 2.6.8-3-686 |
| 01:44.50 | eduhat | b4 i had 2.6.8-2 |
| 01:44.54 | creature | That's just a different package of 2.6.8. |
| 01:45.05 | creature | It's the same kernel version, it's just an updated Debian package. |
| 01:45.25 | eduhat | oh |
| 01:45.41 | Kitu | can i ask a little thing for wine ? |
| 01:45.51 | Kitu | winehq chan is die ... |
| 01:45.53 | mike1980 | !update |
| 01:45.53 | dpkg | i heard update is dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 01:46.08 | mike1980 | !update all |
| 01:46.24 | Kitu | update update all :) |
| 01:46.25 | creature | mike1980: try doing "apt-get install python-qt4" |
| 01:46.36 | eduhat | creature: im looking on the debian web site for a newer kernel |
| 01:46.38 | mike1980 | Creature: thanks |
| 01:47.16 | ifdefudu | i like |
| 01:47.23 | ifdefudu | big butts and i cannot lie |
| 01:47.24 | Kitu | why for wine : Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. |
| 01:47.25 | pablo | i changed it to 1024 768 and it is worst |
| 01:47.25 | ifdefudu | :=) |
| 01:47.47 | Kitu | i have already resolv this pb but i forgot ;( |
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| 01:48.13 | Kitu | it's an graphic application |
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| 01:48.20 | ifdefudu | i need more |
| 01:48.21 | eduhat | creature: the latest kernel on the debian website is 2.6.8-3 |
| 01:48.27 | Kitu | it's a console windows app |
| 01:48.29 | ifdefudu | more |
| 01:48.30 | ifdefudu | mulled claret |
| 01:48.31 | ifdefudu | mulled wine |
| 01:48.31 | ifdefudu | glühwein |
| 01:48.31 | ifdefudu | glogg |
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| 01:48.39 | Kitu | ? |
| 01:48.44 | ifdefudu | do you know that words? |
| 01:48.44 | ifdefudu | :)) |
| 01:48.53 | Kitu | what words ? |
| 01:48.55 | Kitu | witch* |
| 01:48.58 | ifdefudu | mulled claret |
| 01:49.00 | ifdefudu | mulled wine |
| 01:49.00 | ifdefudu | glühwein |
| 01:49.00 | ifdefudu | glogg |
| 01:49.01 | ifdefudu | that |
| 01:49.02 | Kitu | no :( |
| 01:49.02 | dondelelcaro | mulled wine, claret, etc. are all english, yes. |
| 01:49.06 | creature | eduhat: Oh, are you running stable? |
| 01:49.08 | mike1980 | It says I already have apt-get install python-qt4 install |
| 01:49.15 | dondelelcaro | and furthermore, they have nothing to do with #debian... |
| 01:49.18 | ifdefudu | im drinking that |
| 01:49.22 | ifdefudu | i drunk 1 liter |
| 01:49.25 | ifdefudu | alread |
| 01:49.25 | ifdefudu | y |
| 01:49.27 | ifdefudu | o0 |
| 01:49.27 | creature | eduhat: What does /etc/issue say? |
| 01:49.30 | ifdefudu | im drunk |
| 01:49.31 | rahul | drink another 3 liters quickly |
| 01:49.31 | ifdefudu | i think |
| 01:49.32 | Ronin | ohh goody |
| 01:49.32 | ifdefudu | sorry |
| 01:49.34 | Kitu | glühwein is not deutch ? |
| 01:49.36 | ifdefudu | o0 |
| 01:49.41 | ifdefudu | yes |
| 01:49.44 | ifdefudu | its german |
| 01:49.49 | ifdefudu | dunno |
| 01:49.52 | eduhat | creature: Debian GNU\Linux 3.1 \n \l |
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| 01:50.02 | Kitu | so ... somebody to help me ? |
| 01:50.02 | ifdefudu | when will etch be released? |
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| 01:50.10 | eduhat | creature: im running sarge |
| 01:50.14 | ifdefudu | ihave to give debian a chirstmas present |
| 01:50.16 | ifdefudu | :)) |
| 01:50.19 | mike1980 | !PYQT |
| 01:50.23 | ifdefudu | i already spent 20 euros on debian |
| 01:50.25 | ifdefudu | :9 |
| 01:50.26 | ifdefudu | :) |
| 01:50.40 | Kitu | are u french ? |
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| 01:50.57 | Kitu | are u french ifdefudu ? |
| 01:51.06 | ifdefudu | nope |
| 01:51.06 | ifdefudu | german |
| 01:51.06 | Guerin | !u |
| 01:51.06 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:51.06 | ifdefudu | ;) |
| 01:51.17 | Kitu | yes i see in your host in fact |
| 01:51.17 | ifdefudu | but im living in us |
| 01:51.19 | mike1980 | Superkarmba sayin I don't have PyQt installed can anyone help please |
| 01:51.29 | creature | eduhat: You may be out of luck. |
| 01:51.35 | ifdefudu | since i was 16 |
| 01:51.41 | Guerin | mike1980: /msg dpkg search |
| 01:51.42 | ifdefudu | im learning english atm |
| 01:51.42 | ifdefudu | :s |
| 01:51.42 | ifdefudu | hard for me |
| 01:51.46 | pablo | aggghhh why is the screen cut in half? |
| 01:51.51 | eduhat | creature: allright |
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| 01:52.10 | creature | eduhat: You could maybe get the modules from http://hostap.epitest.fi/ , but you're very much on your own with that one. |
| 01:52.24 | creature | Basically, you need to have at least kernel 2.6.14, and that's not part of Debian Stable AFAIK. |
| 01:52.37 | ifdefudu | whatever |
| 01:52.39 | ifdefudu | another bottle for me? |
| 01:52.41 | ifdefudu | lol |
| 01:52.53 | mike1980 | Guerin: MikeBox:/home/mike# /msg dpkg search |
| 01:52.53 | mike1980 | bash: /msg: No such file or directory |
| 01:52.55 | Ronin | no i think youve long past had enough ifdefudu |
| 01:53.09 | Guerin | mike1980: type it in your irc client |
| 01:53.17 | eduhat | creature: thank you |
| 01:53.18 | mike1980 | Woops LOL |
| 01:53.36 | creature | eduhat: No problem. |
| 01:53.59 | pablo | no even in 800 x 600 |
| 01:54.17 | pablo | aggghhh why is the screen cut in half? |
| 01:54.52 | creature | pablo: can you be more descriptive than "cut in half"? |
| 01:55.21 | rahul | "has a massive gash down the center, spewing blood and guts all over the floor"? |
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| 01:55.41 | rahul | babies cry in the background, women scream, men gasp |
| 01:55.57 | rahul | it starts to drizzle. |
| 01:56.03 | pablo | creature: i only see half and when i pass that half i see the right part, the middle one is missing |
| 01:56.05 | rahul | creature: is that better? |
| 01:56.10 | rahul | :) |
| 01:56.15 | Guerin | !beer rahul |
| 01:56.28 | rahul | no no, I'm going to have a turkey and ginger |
| 01:56.28 | Ronin | good choice |
| 01:56.42 | rahul | bridget's gonna make me one or 5 |
| 01:56.47 | Guerin | rahul: one turkey, one soda, one beer |
| 01:56.51 | rahul | heh |
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| 01:57.08 | Guerin | and the No Smoking Orchestra |
| 01:57.16 | rahul | she always makes me doubles tho |
| 01:57.24 | Guerin | rahul: that's a quality woman |
| 01:57.26 | rahul | and rarely remembers to charge me when she's closing out |
| 01:57.53 | rahul | if I remember, she usually just charges me for one or two :P |
| 01:58.08 | rahul | (that's after drinking about 3 of her doubles) |
| 01:58.31 | rahul | ok, now I'm getting thirsty |
| 01:58.31 | creature | pablo: I still don't really understand what you're seeing, I'm afraid. |
| 01:58.44 | creature | Pet hate of the day: wikis that insist you have a login to edit them. |
| 01:58.50 | creature | What the bloody hell is the point of that? |
| 01:58.57 | rahul | creature: to track valid edits |
| 01:59.06 | rahul | so bots can't screw it up |
| 01:59.43 | rahul | wow, I didn't know I had so many good lacuna coil songs on here |
| 01:59.43 | creature | Pff. Stick a capcha on it. |
| 01:59.46 | creature | And there are no good Lacuna Coil songs. |
| 01:59.49 | rahul | pfft |
| 01:59.58 | rahul | creature: which albums have you listened to? |
| 02:00.30 | rahul | creature: the new stuff is getting really poppy. Karmacode is their black album. |
| 02:00.55 | rahul | Comalies is awesome. |
| 02:01.04 | creature | I can't remember. But I was not impressed. Quite the opposite. |
| 02:02.02 | rahul | creature: did you listen to stuff like Daylight Dancer and Self Deception and Purify? |
| 02:02.11 | rahul | not that the names are obvious from the lyrics :P |
| 02:02.29 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
| 02:02.53 | creature | I listened to the "Unleashed Memories" album, apparently. |
| 02:03.14 | rahul | creature: ah, that one is mediocre |
| 02:03.24 | rahul | creature: only song on there I really like is Purify |
| 02:03.58 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
| 02:04.00 | ifdefudu | :DDD |
| 02:04.06 | rahul | creature: I kinda like In a Reverie, but it's unpolished. I think it was their first major label release |
| 02:04.53 | creature | rahul: OK, well, I'll bear that in mind. But I don't think I'll be returning to their music any time soon. |
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| 02:05.09 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
| 02:05.09 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
| 02:05.10 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
| 02:05.11 | ifdefudu | cheers! |
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| 02:05.23 | abrotman | !ops ifdefudu is being a pain |
| 02:05.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abrotman complains about: ifdefudu is being a pain |
| 02:05.24 | ifdefudu | wtf |
| 02:05.25 | Guerin | !ops ifdefudu beatings |
| 02:05.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: guerin complains about: ifdefudu beatings |
| 02:05.31 | ifdefudu | wha t happendp? |
| 02:05.32 | Guerin | damnyou, abrotman |
| 02:05.36 | rahul | alright. being sober and watching drunk people be drunk is really bad |
| 02:05.37 | abrotman | !prize me |
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| 02:05.45 | Guerin | ifdefudu: you triggered the fucktard-o-meter |
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| 02:05.51 | ifdefudu | what-ß |
| 02:05.55 | ifdefudu | +? |
| 02:05.56 | ifdefudu | sor |
| 02:05.58 | ifdefudu | y |
| 02:06.03 | ifdefudu | i will go to slepp |
| 02:06.06 | Guerin | you're still doing it |
| 02:06.09 | creature | Good plan. |
| 02:06.10 | Guerin | that would be wise |
| 02:06.12 | ifdefudu | and wathc tv |
| 02:06.13 | ifdefudu | o0 |
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| 02:06.18 | abrotman | JUST GO AND SHUT UP |
| 02:06.21 | Guerin | gravity is your friend |
| 02:06.25 | Ronin | agreed abrotman |
| 02:06.28 | ifdefudu | be cool |
| 02:06.34 | ifdefudu | :) |
| 02:06.47 | ifdefudu | my english is not the best |
| 02:06.47 | ifdefudu | sro |
| 02:06.47 | ifdefudu | y |
| 02:06.56 | Guerin | your english isn't the problem |
| 02:07.05 | Guerin | it's your drunkenness which is making you retarded |
| 02:07.11 | Guerin | now go and become less so |
| 02:07.22 | ifdefudu | i cant seay what i woudl say |
| 02:07.22 | ifdefudu | thats the probelm |
| 02:07.32 | Ronin | ifdefudu: log off and go the hell to bed |
| 02:07.35 | jishin | I upgraded from 2.6.8 to 2.6.19.1 kernel , and got kernel panic from mount by not be able to find "devfs" |
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| 02:07.39 | abrotman | !afo |
| 02:07.40 | dpkg | asg for ops! |
| 02:07.41 | ifdefudu | okay |
| 02:07.41 | ifdefudu | sorry al |
| 02:07.42 | ifdefudu | godd nciht |
| 02:07.44 | ifdefudu | night |
| 02:07.49 | Guerin | jishin: use a debian kernel or build yours properly |
| 02:08.33 | creature | How much should my networking cane my CPU? |
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| 02:08.48 | creature | I'm moving around 8.3Mb a second, and it's using all my CPU up. |
| 02:08.51 | jishin | so , what i'm missing in kernel config for udev |
| 02:08.56 | ifdefudu | hi ascii__ |
| 02:08.57 | creature | I thought it could be the hard disk, but DMA is enabled. |
| 02:09.00 | ifdefudu | w hatas you rname? |
| 02:09.06 | abrotman | ifdefudu: i thought you were going to bed ? |
| 02:09.11 | ifdefudu | sohr |
| 02:09.13 | ifdefudu | i go |
| 02:09.14 | ifdefudu | now |
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| 02:09.23 | abrotman | ifdefudu: please /part |
| 02:09.24 | ifdefudu | www |
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| 02:09.49 | rahul | heh |
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| 02:10.51 | abrotman | GO TO BED! |
| 02:11.05 | ifdefudu | im gien |
| 02:11.08 | ifdefudu | im hoemn |
| 02:11.10 | ifdefudu | gone |
| 02:11.11 | ifdefudu | sor |
| 02:11.12 | ifdefudu | y |
| 02:11.13 | ifdefudu | relaly |
| 02:11.15 | ifdefudu | really |
| 02:11.20 | ifdefudu | oh ufvkc |
| 02:11.22 | ifdefudu | guc |
| 02:11.23 | ifdefudu | fuck |
| 02:11.23 | Guerin | whiskey tango foxtrot |
| 02:11.25 | ifdefudu | sorry |
| 02:11.36 | abrotman | no .. we don't need ops around .. what makes you think that ? |
| 02:11.55 | rahul | turkey ginger beer |
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| 02:12.09 | abrotman | Guerin: be abusive .. see if anyone shows up :) |
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| 02:12.29 | Guerin | abrotman: I don't even think that would do it |
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| 02:12.39 | rahul | heh |
| 02:12.46 | abrotman | !beer peterS |
| 02:13.03 | rahul | ok, time to get my turkey ginger fix |
| 02:13.17 | peterS | hmmm, 7 minutes since someone complained about that dude, sorry nobody was here sooner |
| 02:13.36 | abrotman | 7 minutes since we complained .. been going on for a while |
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| 02:15.35 | Ronin | i was ready on the jews comment abrotman |
| 02:15.45 | pablo | hi, my screen is cut in half, in ubuntu it worked right, may it be the config file or the driveer? |
| 02:15.57 | Ronin | pablo: please be as specific as possible |
| 02:16.12 | abrotman | Ronin: i missed that |
| 02:17.07 | Ronin | i may hate everyone equally but racism bothers me |
| 02:17.20 | pablo | Ronin: i only see half screen |
| 02:17.53 | pablo | hi, my screen is cut in half, in ubuntu it worked right, may it be the config file or the driveer? |
| 02:18.14 | jishin | i tried to install linux-image-2.6.18-1-686 from backports but i stops with dependencies promblem about initframfs-tools, yaird and linux-initramfs-tool , I couldn't figure out how to resolve it |
| 02:18.31 | abrotman | judaism isn't a race |
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| 02:18.49 | dondelelcaro | whatever it is, it's OT here... |
| 02:18.50 | Ronin | wasnt so much that actually |
| 02:19.02 | Ronin | ya now he wakes up :) |
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| 02:20.14 | jusphinks | dondelelcaro; I've respected your opinion highly over the past two years; mind if I PM you a question? |
| 02:21.54 | abrotman | eh ? |
| 02:22.35 | jusphinks | abrotman; I love you, too. |
| 02:22.39 | dvs | heh |
| 02:22.54 | dvs | abrotman: are you SURE you want to move to Colorado? ;-) |
| 02:23.04 | abrotman | dvs: i was going to visit! |
| 02:23.15 | dvs | abrotman: gee! What's stopping you? ;-) |
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| 02:23.27 | abrotman | dvs: my flight was cancelled |
| 02:23.35 | dvs | abrotman: surprise, surprise |
| 02:23.54 | pablo | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which files does it modifies? |
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| 02:25.59 | abrotman | /etc/X11/Xorg.conf |
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| 02:26.09 | pablo | abrotman: nothing else? |
| 02:26.27 | abrotman | yeah .. the debconf settings |
| 02:26.32 | geo-rge | pablo: it's probably easy enough to find out |
| 02:26.43 | pablo | geo-rge: how? |
| 02:26.46 | geo-rge | or, alternativey, |
| 02:26.53 | geo-rge | how easy is it to find out? |
| 02:27.10 | geo-rge | well you have the common mechanism of debconf |
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| 02:27.27 | geo-rge | dpkg-reconfigure is part of that mechanism |
| 02:27.38 | geo-rge | so |
| 02:27.41 | pablo | geo-rge: what do i do with debconf? |
| 02:28.42 | peterS | pablo: what he's getting at is that you have to read the scripts /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.config and /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst to see what they do |
| 02:28.44 | geo-rge | if you can determine how debconf works, then you can determine from its settings for the package involved (I guess xserver-xorg?) and see what it alters |
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| 02:29.20 | peterS | those scripts aren't particularly trivial, mind you, so it might not be much fun |
| 02:29.51 | geo-rge | peterS: so those files are read and/or altered by the various pieces of debconf? |
| 02:30.14 | peterS | no, they are run by dpkg-reconfigure. in turn, they launch debconf. |
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| 02:31.16 | geo-rge | I see... so what exactly would one read to find out how to determine which config files are written by dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 02:31.33 | peterS | I already said what |
| 02:31.39 | geo-rge | would one have to know all things debconf? |
| 02:31.46 | peterS | nothing is written by dpkg-reconfigure. it just runs those 2 scripts. |
| 02:32.17 | peterS | scripts often, but don't always, use debconf. debconf doesn't really do any of the work except user input |
| 02:33.02 | geo-rge | ok, so something writes the xorg equiv of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 02:33.08 | geo-rge | (yes? :) |
| 02:33.26 | peterS | yes. the postinst script does it, directly or indirectly |
| 02:33.49 | geo-rge | I see, so then what dpkg-reconfigure actually does... |
| 02:34.08 | peterS | it calls the .config script, then it calls the .postinst script, with specific arguments including the word 'reconfigure' |
| 02:34.56 | geo-rge | is run a script which re-asks the pertinent questions (would that be the .config?) and then calls the postinst |
| 02:34.56 | peterS | the .config script usually does most or all of the user prompting, via debconf, and caches the answers |
| 02:34.56 | lastnode | what did franziskaner want? |
| 02:34.56 | peterS | the .postinst script reads those cached answers via debconf, and does something useful like writing or editing config files |
| 02:35.14 | geo-rge | lastnode: to spam everyone here I guess :) |
| 02:36.06 | peterS | this 2-stage process is needed only because if you're installing or upgrading 200 packages it's nice to run all the .config scripts _before_ starting on the package installation, so the admin only has to sit there to answer questions _once_, without waiting for everything to install |
| 02:36.44 | geo-rge | gotcha |
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| 02:37.06 | geo-rge | so you really have to read the postinst and analyse it to determine what it writes if anything |
| 02:37.18 | peterS | (the same 2-stage process, .config then later .postinst, is done by an install, upgrade, or dpkg-reconfigure.) |
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| 02:37.22 | peterS | yes |
| 02:37.38 | peterS | and in the case of xserver-xorg, good luck, it's a bit of a daunting piece of work |
| 02:38.03 | geo-rge | overfiendishly daunting? |
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| 02:38.31 | peterS | possibly, but I think a lot of it has been written after overfiend stopped actively contributing to it |
| 02:38.39 | resistance | ho |
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| 02:38.47 | geo-rge | so... things working now? |
| 02:38.58 | resistance | geo-rge: seem to b |
| 02:39.04 | peterS | ragnul: who are you and what have you done with rahul? |
| 02:39.09 | geo-rge | what exactly was the problem? |
| 02:39.15 | resistance | downloading apt sources not |
| 02:39.17 | resistance | now |
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| 02:39.42 | resistance | i reinstalled using the i386 v-works perfectly |
| 02:39.48 | resistance | no idea man |
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| 02:39.51 | geo-rge | oh, ok |
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| 02:40.05 | alex_ | does anyone know a tool to normalize the bitrate of mp3s ? |
| 02:40.11 | geo-rge | oops, washing machine calling me |
| 02:40.18 | xaramar | h |
| 02:40.20 | xaramar | i |
| 02:40.22 | xaramar | ia m new |
| 02:40.24 | xaramar | s |
| 02:40.28 | xaramar | u mneot |
| 02:40.30 | xaramar | drunk+ |
| 02:40.32 | xaramar | sroy |
| 02:40.34 | peterS | xaramar: stop typing now |
| 02:40.38 | Ronin | ahh crap here we go again |
| 02:40.47 | resistance | lol |
| 02:40.54 | geo-rge | the drunk guy again :) |
| 02:40.59 | dvs | again? |
| 02:41.02 | Ronin | and im 1/2 in the bag myself |
| 02:41.02 | geo-rge | yes |
| 02:41.23 | peterS | alex_: any mp3 encoder should be able to specify constant bitrate. but you do need an mp3 encoder, which Debian doesn't ship. |
| 02:41.26 | geo-rge | Ronin: at least you don't like the enter key much :) |
| 02:41.28 | peterS | bleh, he leaves. |
| 02:42.03 | geo-rge | peterS: ok, let's turn it around... (oops one sec) |
| 02:42.05 | lastnode | geo-rge: oh right |
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| 02:44.44 | geo-rge | say I want a package to start using debconf |
| 02:44.54 | abrotman | peterS: that's the same guy you kicked before |
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| 02:45.04 | Ronin | heh so it is |
| 02:45.13 | geo-rge | well he's not presently spewing |
| 02:45.15 | peterS | abrotman: yeah took him long enough to figure out that he wasn't banned |
| 02:45.18 | Ronin | proxies it seems |
| 02:45.24 | abrotman | geo-rge: or maybe that's where he is :) |
| 02:45.25 | geo-rge | or maybe he is spewing but not here |
| 02:45.56 | Ronin | passed out finally? |
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| 02:53.25 | Nat` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.30 | Ronin | dondelelcaro: he does seem to be using the same ident though |
| 02:53.42 | Nat` | but vmware not look the device |
| 02:54.26 | dondelelcaro | what does vmware have to do with it? You're running a machine, /dev/loopN is now a device which is connected to a file. |
| 02:54.53 | infernix | hrm, why doesn't bash accept the run-in-background option on one line? e.g. 'if [ "`pidof something`" == "" ]; then somescript.sh &; fi' - this fails due to the & |
| 02:55.17 | Nat` | dondek, yes but vmware get error |
| 02:55.59 | dondelelcaro | infernix: because & is for job control, not daemonizing something. |
| 02:56.10 | dondelelcaro | infernix: use start-stop-daemon or similar if that's what you want to do. |
| 02:56.32 | infernix | dondelelcaro: it works fine if i just hit enter after the &, e.g. making a new line out of it |
| 02:56.51 | infernix | e.g. if [ "`pidof something`" == "" ]; then somescript.sh & [enter] fi |
| 02:57.04 | infernix | i think its silly |
| 02:57.06 | dondelelcaro | that does something completely different |
| 02:57.12 | Nat` | dondelelcaro, yes but vmware get error |
| 02:57.22 | dondelelcaro | Nat`: call up vmware support then. |
| 02:57.33 | Nat` | '/dev/loop2' exists, but does not appear to be a CD-ROM device. |
| 02:57.36 | Nat` | ok |
| 02:57.48 | Nat` | sorry |
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| 02:58.39 | infernix | ah, with help from #bash: 'if true ; then { aterm & } ; fi' |
| 02:58.55 | infernix | great, i've always wanted to know that |
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| 03:05.33 | black_13 | how do get a powermangment kernel for my laptop? |
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| 03:05.58 | abrotman | acpi or apm |
| 03:06.02 | dvs | black_13: if you are using a Debian kernel, you probably only need the acpi package |
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| 03:06.41 | black_13 | ok |
| 03:07.06 | black_13 | what is latest kernel for debian sarge |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | acpid might be useful |
| 03:07.13 | dvs | black_13: 2.6.8 |
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| 03:07.26 | black_13 | really old? |
| 03:07.39 | dvs | !depends kernel-image-2.6-386 |
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| 03:07.42 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-386: depends on linux-image-2.6-486 |
| 03:07.57 | Guerin | you lose |
| 03:08.04 | dvs | !depends kernel-image-2.6-386 sarge |
| 03:08.08 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-386: depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 |
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| 03:09.24 | black_13 | what if i want a kernel that is a bit more recent |
| 03:09.46 | dvs | black_13: either compile it yourself or upgrade to etch. |
| 03:10.01 | black_13 | what about backport? |
| 03:10.11 | dvs | black_13: oh. That'll work too. |
| 03:10.23 | black_13 | i know a few things :) |
| 03:10.27 | dvs | heh |
| 03:10.30 | abrotman | okay .. i'll save everyone the trouble .. the new transformers trailer is really bad |
| 03:10.39 | abrotman | :) |
| 03:10.40 | dvs | Transformers? |
| 03:10.50 | black_13 | hey its directed by my micheal bey |
| 03:10.54 | abrotman | you know .. autobots .. decepticons |
| 03:10.58 | dvs | As in Pessimist Crime? |
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| 03:11.03 | black_13 | what do you expect |
| 03:11.09 | abrotman | black_13: yes .. i know .. |
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| 03:12.33 | magyar | hi, is the radeon driver includes x1950xtx? |
| 03:12.40 | magyar | xorg |
| 03:12.43 | dvs | magyar: probably not |
| 03:12.53 | magyar | :( |
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| 03:13.13 | magyar | it's back to windows |
| 03:13.24 | dvs | magyar: or use vega for now |
| 03:13.28 | dvs | *vesa |
| 03:13.39 | ndowens | yay i am on debian etch |
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| 03:13.43 | magyar | to blurry on lcd display |
| 03:13.57 | magyar | dvs ^ |
| 03:14.02 | dvs | magyar: use a DVI cable. ;-) |
| 03:14.12 | magyar | dvs i am |
| 03:14.31 | dvs | magyar: at the native resolution of the monitor? |
| 03:14.52 | magyar | dvs, in vesa i cant get 1920 |
| 03:14.57 | abrotman | check at x.org |
| 03:15.02 | abrotman | or ask #xorg |
| 03:15.03 | dvs | that's native resolution?!? |
| 03:15.08 | magyar | abrotman: noone there |
| 03:15.14 | abrotman | yes there is |
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| 03:15.21 | magyar | dvs: uh-huh 24" LCD |
| 03:15.22 | abrotman | 100 people |
| 03:15.23 | dvs | 30" LCD? |
| 03:15.29 | jonathan_ | hello |
| 03:15.31 | dvs | geesh! |
| 03:15.31 | abrotman | dvs: 12"! |
| 03:15.46 | magyar | abrotman: i poped the question way before i came to #debian |
| 03:16.02 | abrotman | magyar: did you check the docs at x.org ? |
| 03:16.13 | magyar | dvs, on friday i am getting a new dell 23" |
| 03:16.15 | abrotman | magyar: X -version .. which do you have ? |
| 03:16.26 | magyar | abrotman: sid |
| 03:16.40 | abrotman | which has which version ? |
| 03:17.07 | magyar | s/23/32 |
| 03:17.28 | abrotman | 7.?! |
| 03:17.42 | magyar | abrotman: not a clue, i cant get x on sid with "radeon" |
| 03:17.54 | abrotman | i just told you how to find out |
| 03:18.21 | magyar | abrotman: am on win system right now |
| 03:18.42 | stoned | abrotman, http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/retarded.mp3 <-- Non-metal/non-shred. Enjoy |
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| 03:19.03 | abrotman | stoned: you could have done that in /msg or in #-ot :) |
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| 03:19.58 | stoned | abrotman, you will still enjoy it :) |
| 03:20.11 | abrotman | we shall see |
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| 03:20.19 | abrotman | stoned: upgrade your intarweb plan! :) |
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| 03:20.44 | stoned | some dude is offerening to let his studio people hear it and get me a deal |
| 03:20.45 | stoned | lol |
| 03:20.59 | stoned | I'm like whoah, word |
| 03:21.01 | abrotman | that bad huh ? |
| 03:21.11 | dvs | stoned: magyar is buying a 24" Dell monitor! |
| 03:21.19 | stoned | dvs, hehe |
| 03:21.42 | abrotman | and my co-worker say dell sucks .. and this was after he told me we should buy dell servers |
| 03:21.52 | dvs | heh |
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| 03:22.18 | abrotman | his rationale was "everyone else buys them .. and they're cheap" |
| 03:23.06 | pipeline | sounds reasonable to me |
| 03:23.08 | pipeline | sucks is relative |
| 03:23.11 | pipeline | it's all the same commodity shit |
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| 03:23.51 | pipeline | I can't be persuaded to believe that a Dell-branded box of generic parts is really that much better or worse than the HP-branded box of generic shit. It's all about price and service contract. |
| 03:24.03 | pipeline | Commoditization are why we're all here, after all. Linux would not be where it is without that potent force :P |
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| 03:24.11 | abrotman | somehow .. dell seems to get crappier parts :) |
| 03:24.14 | magyar | dvs, i have a 24" I am getting a 32" on Friday |
| 03:24.15 | stoned | pipeline, exactly. I personally, would never buy a machine prebuilt |
| 03:24.23 | abrotman | 14 damn minutes ?! |
| 03:24.23 | dvs | o_O |
| 03:24.44 | magyar | dvs, it's like watching ping-pong |
| 03:24.46 | dvs | magyar: that ain't a monitor. That's a friggin movie screen! |
| 03:24.50 | stoned | pipeline, I got nforce 680i, e6600, 8800gt, corsair ddr-800, all OC about 25% |
| 03:24.51 | pipeline | stoned: Which is foolish. They're frequently cheaper that way. It's *all* the same shit. The last OEM that made their own shit went bust in the 90s. Remember AST? |
| 03:24.54 | stoned | enthusiast |
| 03:25.05 | abrotman | i do! |
| 03:25.06 | magyar | dvs: we get wicked deals with dell |
| 03:25.10 | pipeline | stoned: Yeah, that's all the same garbage that Dell and HP use. It all comes from the same places, designed by the same people. |
| 03:25.15 | abrotman | god i'm old |
| 03:25.23 | stoned | pipeline, you won't find that mobo on any dell machine |
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| 03:25.40 | magyar | anyone seen gravity? |
| 03:25.41 | abrotman | pipeline: actually ... HP uses Asus/Abit in theirs |
| 03:25.45 | pipeline | stoned: Oh no. I'll have to have a *slightly different* piece of roasted shit. |
| 03:25.47 | abrotman | and it says so on it |
| 03:25.51 | pipeline | abrotman: Yes, the same taiwanese shit as everyone else :D |
| 03:26.02 | abrotman | pipeline: no . i mean it actually says Asus on the board |
| 03:26.02 | stoned | pipeline, so its shit now? the 680i |
| 03:26.03 | stoned | wow |
| 03:26.07 | stoned | shows how much you know |
| 03:26.09 | abrotman | instead of before how it used to just be a board |
| 03:26.26 | pipeline | stoned: Yes, it is shit. It's commodity PC trash, the same as any other. It's manufactured by a variety of OEMs all over the world. |
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| 03:26.51 | pipeline | abrotman: Heh, my first reasonable PC had an Asus-branded motherboard in it. I believe that was a before-the-merger HP. |
| 03:26.54 | stoned | pipeline, do you have any solid reasons besides your personal beliefs about business practices |
| 03:27.03 | stoned | pipeline, its a fantastic mobo, wtf are you on about |
| 03:27.07 | abrotman | reasonable ? |
| 03:27.11 | stoned | pipeline, tell me how it sucks, please |
| 03:27.15 | pipeline | abrotman: >4M of RAM :D |
| 03:27.37 | abrotman | i have an Acer 486 in my closet :) |
| 03:27.42 | pipeline | stoned: Every possible corner is cut on cost, even at the expense of quality. It uses edge connectors instead of superior designs. |
| 03:28.01 | pipeline | stoned: in a nutshell, it's a standard PC :D |
| 03:28.07 | stoned | yeah |
| 03:28.17 | pipeline | Kids who build PCs are so cute. |
| 03:28.18 | stoned | I'm not running a fucking mission critical solar missile silo blah blah server |
| 03:28.19 | stoned | man |
| 03:28.21 | stoned | c'mon |
| 03:28.30 | stoned | its a gaming rig, damn, it doesn't suck,and you suck |
| 03:28.31 | stoned | go away |
| 03:28.33 | stoned | :/ |
| 03:28.39 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:28.49 | pipeline | No. I will not come on. I make money off replacing expensive gear with commodity trash running Linux, that doesn't mean I have to worship the commodity gear. (But I do. Commoditization is the best thing ever.) |
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| 03:29.07 | Guerin | heh |
| 03:29.14 | stoned | thats like |
| 03:29.17 | stoned | harold and kumar |
| 03:29.23 | stoned | "daddy will not come on anything" |
| 03:29.24 | stoned | lol |
| 03:29.26 | stoned | HAHAHA |
| 03:29.27 | levander | "mount -o defaults,ro /dev/hda2 /mnt/ddrive" only lets the root user look at the drive, not a regular user. Any idea what options to specify so a regular user can look at the contents? |
| 03:29.42 | pipeline | levander: man mount, search for the "uid" and "umask" options |
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| 03:29.57 | pipeline | levander: alternatively, install pmount so that users can mount things themselves. |
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| 03:31.59 | stoned | hey |
| 03:32.03 | stoned | I have a problem |
| 03:32.09 | stoned | well, I have many but... |
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| 03:32.11 | Guerin | stoned: you smoke too much dope |
| 03:32.18 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 03:32.53 | stoned | at work everything is going through proxy, anything but the web is unblocked. I can access my web server from work. how can I setup something so that I can have ssh access to my server |
| 03:33.02 | black_13 | would the patch debian kernel sources contain the acpi modules? |
| 03:33.04 | stoned | unblocked/blocked* |
| 03:33.25 | Guerin | black_13: yes, of course |
| 03:33.27 | abrotman | anything but 80 is unproxied ? |
| 03:33.29 | zetetic | hi, I'm running Debian Etch and I can't add new menus on alacarte. alacarte seems to be broken and doesn't save the settings! anyone can help me please? |
| 03:33.51 | Guerin | stoned: you want us to haxx0r your work firewall? |
| 03:34.01 | stoned | Guerin, please! |
| 03:34.13 | Guerin | that would be immoral |
| 03:34.14 | stoned | could you |
| 03:34.15 | abrotman | zetetic: anything in the BTS? |
| 03:34.22 | black_13 | Guerin i had to ask |
| 03:34.30 | Guerin | but I'll gladly help you circumvent it |
| 03:34.36 | zetetic | abrotman: what is the "BTS" ? |
| 03:34.38 | stoned | sweet |
| 03:34.40 | stoned | you da man |
| 03:34.45 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382452 |
| 03:34.51 | abrotman | zetetic: like that? ^^ |
| 03:34.52 | Guerin | stoned: is https blocked? |
| 03:35.00 | Guerin | stoned: port 443 i think |
| 03:35.36 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 382452 |
| 03:35.39 | dpkg | #382452:N[alacarte] Alacarte fails to commit changes; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:33:01 UTC |
| 03:36.07 | abrotman | which to me .. would make the package kind of useless .. and possibly an RC bug :) |
| 03:36.16 | zetetic | abrotman: sorry, I don't understand what you mean. when I add a new application to alacarte, alacarte doesn't save the change, the new menu item dissapears! |
| 03:36.27 | abrotman | sounds the same to me :) |
| 03:36.52 | abrotman | zetetic: does your issue sound similar to what this guy describes? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382452 |
| 03:38.11 | abrotman | though .. the other submitter has a workaround/fix-ish addendum |
| 03:38.12 | stoned | Guerin, well, my server is running on 8181, unblocked through web |
| 03:38.32 | stoned | Guerin, the problem is, I can't just use any winsock app, it has to be configured to go through the works proxy server |
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| 03:38.49 | stoned | Guerin, over IE my webserver works, I listen to my music all the time |
| 03:39.07 | stoned | however, I need a sort of php/web based ssh or some other way of getting to ssh |
| 03:39.09 | stoned | I can't figure it out |
| 03:39.10 | Guerin | ok, so it's not blocked by port |
| 03:39.34 | zetetic | abrotman: yes, it seems I have the some problem. But I have also issues when adding new items... when I add a new item alacarte doesn't save the change and so the item dissapears |
| 03:39.36 | Guerin | there is no php-ssh, there are some java clients which are all shit |
| 03:39.55 | abrotman | zetetic: scroll to the bottom of the page .. tells you how to "fix" it |
| 03:40.07 | Guerin | stoned: would a tunnel work? if you encrypted the connection? |
| 03:40.26 | ndowens | well so far in etch my printer has printed one thing, but won't print anymore and i am doin exactly what i did last time, weird |
| 03:40.34 | stoned | I can't get to the internet with anything but IE at work |
| 03:40.40 | stoned | without anyting but* |
| 03:41.09 | zetetic | abrotman: thank you very much! I'm gonna try to fix the issue |
| 03:41.13 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 03:41.14 | stoned | for example I can't use putty at all |
| 03:41.24 | stoned | it doesn't even find a network connection |
| 03:41.35 | stoned | am I restricted to phpshell type things |
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| 03:41.42 | stoned | cuz i've used it and it sucks |
| 03:41.57 | abrotman | stoned: no feeling ... |
| 03:42.02 | Guerin | stoned: oh, not firefox? |
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| 03:42.10 | stoned | Guerin, firefox works |
| 03:42.21 | stoned | just the web works is what im sayin |
| 03:42.27 | Guerin | stoned: you *really* do not want to log in to your box through IE |
| 03:42.32 | stoned | i know |
| 03:43.14 | stoned | hmm |
| 03:43.42 | stoned | if I setup ssh on like 8182 port, i might be able to get in, but i think web browsers ae only alowed, cuz mirc didn't work either |
| 03:43.51 | stoned | it didn't find a network connection |
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| 03:44.30 | Guerin | if it's a proxy which is only accepting http, you'd need to use a http connection, so probably a ssh client in a browser would be your only option |
| 03:44.40 | Guerin | fucking ugly, though |
| 03:44.41 | stoned | thats what I figured |
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| 03:46.40 | K|NgGh0sT | How can I fix this... "99% [Waiting for headers] " when using apt-get install? |
| 03:46.50 | abrotman | hit ctrl-c .. do it again |
| 03:47.05 | K|NgGh0sT | It keeps getting stuck there |
| 03:47.23 | stoned | abrotman, did you give my new piece a listen? |
| 03:47.34 | abrotman | yes .. i gave my review :) |
| 03:47.38 | stoned | iohh |
| 03:47.40 | stoned | I missed it |
| 03:47.51 | K|NgGh0sT | Anyway else to get around it? |
| 03:47.59 | K|NgGh0sT | apt-get update doesnt work either |
| 03:48.00 | abrotman | change mirrors maybe ? |
| 03:48.15 | stoned | try now, its like 60kb/s upload man |
| 03:48.22 | Guerin | i get that occasionally at my mirror |
| 03:48.34 | Guerin | or did, until i changed it to one which is 4x as fast |
| 03:48.36 | ryan` | can anyone tell me why ls displays time in different formats in two nearly identicly configured systems? |
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| 03:48.41 | stoned | its not bad for 40$ /mo |
| 03:48.44 | ryan` | the locale settings seem to be the same |
| 03:48.47 | stoned | thats all they got here |
| 03:49.05 | Guerin | ryan`: both the same versions of ls and things? |
| 03:49.13 | abrotman | stoned: i got it . i listened to the whole thing |
| 03:49.19 | stoned | wow |
| 03:49.30 | stoned | you actually sat through all 15~ish minutes of it |
| 03:49.34 | stoned | you got balls son |
| 03:49.36 | stoned | you got balls |
| 03:49.37 | abrotman | yes .. you asked me to |
| 03:49.40 | stoned | thanks |
| 03:49.41 | stoned | :) |
| 03:49.46 | ryan` | Guerin: yeah. |
| 03:49.52 | stoned | so what did you think? |
| 03:49.53 | abrotman | now .. can you make Tb2 allow me to update LDAP entries ? |
| 03:50.02 | stoned | who me? |
| 03:50.05 | stoned | what? |
| 03:50.16 | Guerin | quid pro quo |
| 03:51.02 | abrotman | stoned: go to #-ot .. |
| 03:51.18 | stoned | you gonna threaten to an me again cuz you disagree |
| 03:51.21 | stoned | I no go |
| 03:51.25 | Guerin | haha |
| 03:51.30 | abrotman | dude .. it was a joke .. your sarcasm meter is broken |
| 03:51.36 | Guerin | the abrotmeister rules with an iron fist! |
| 03:51.37 | stoned | fine! |
| 03:51.38 | stoned | fuck!!!! |
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| 03:52.35 | dasunt | Under sarge, can you have software raid5/6 as a boot partition? |
| 03:53.08 | dondelelcaro | dasunt: generally not |
| 03:53.24 | dasunt | dondelelcaro: Must it be raid1 then? |
| 03:53.33 | dondelelcaro | dasunt: you're better off having a very small raid 1 partition with kernels, and then the rest of the drives raid 5 or 6 |
| 03:53.39 | dasunt | Okay. |
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| 03:53.53 | dondelelcaro | the advantage of raid1 being that it always works |
| 03:54.23 | dasunt | Say ~100M raid1 /boot ? |
| 03:54.43 | ryan` | hmm |
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| 03:55.23 | ryan` | According to strace, they are being called diffrently; |
| 03:55.23 | ryan` | < execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls", "-al"], [/* 14 vars */]) = 0 |
| 03:55.23 | ryan` | > execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls", "-al"], [/* 17 vars */]) = 0 |
| 03:55.30 | LinuxNIT | hey guys any idea why my computer will not sleep/hibernate when i close the lid unless i change the event from /etc/acpi/lid.sh to /etc/acpi/sleep.sh ? (and yes its unplugged) |
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| 03:57.44 | ryan` | AH |
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| 03:57.59 | ryan` | it depends on how I got my root shell. |
| 03:58.01 | ryan` | wtf. |
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| 03:59.23 | abrotman | !tell illwolf about root |
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| 04:03.02 | zetetic | abrotman: thank you, problem solved |
| 04:03.57 | abrotman | zetetic: enjoy |
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| 04:06.26 | protocol1 | I am installing debian testing and it has like 21 cd's for it....do I need them all? |
| 04:06.36 | gravity | No |
| 04:06.50 | protocol1 | how many should I use? |
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| 04:07.25 | abrotman | protocol1: you have broadband ? |
| 04:07.31 | protocol1 | yes sir |
| 04:07.31 | gravity | You can just use the first. Or better, you can use the netinstall CD, which installs a base system and then lets you download only the packages you actually want |
| 04:07.50 | abrotman | !d-i protocol1 |
| 04:07.50 | dpkg | protocol1, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you've got hardware that the 3.1r3 installer doesn't support - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 04:08.15 | protocol1 | the netinstall sounds better |
| 04:08.33 | protocol1 | :) |
| 04:10.16 | protocol1 | would it be better If I use testing RC1 netinstall? or would the daily built images be alight to use? |
| 04:10.55 | protocol1 | alright* |
| 04:11.58 | EdLin | protocol1: iyhtays |
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| 04:12.28 | dn4 | what do I need to have the command svn?? |
| 04:12.41 | EdLin | dn4: subversion I guess |
| 04:12.54 | EdLin | !iyhtays |
| 04:12.54 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 04:13.18 | dn4 | EdLin: yes but what do I apt-get install |
| 04:13.24 | dn4 | I don't see something as simple as svn |
| 04:13.32 | EdLin | dn4: apt-cache search subversion |
| 04:13.33 | abrotman | dn4: apt-file search svn |
| 04:13.51 | EdLin | !abrotman++ |
| 04:14.42 | EdLin | kind of a slow night tonight, is everyone out there browsing Amazon? ;-) |
| 04:15.24 | abrotman | i'm wondering if my flight will be cancelled again tomorrow :) |
| 04:15.43 | EdLin | abrotman: that's bad... Why was it cancelled? |
| 04:15.52 | abrotman | snow .. |
| 04:16.10 | EdLin | abrotman: that was my guess. :) Where are you? |
| 04:16.20 | geo-rge | "If you have to ask, you shouldn't." is the -stupidest-, most paranoid copout I ever heard. either HELP or SHUT UP |
| 04:16.33 | abrotman | EdLin: i'm outside philly .. trying to go to denver :) |
| 04:16.37 | geo-rge | yo |
| 04:16.39 | EdLin | geo-rge: it's an answer to protocol1's question |
| 04:16.47 | geo-rge | I know what you're afraid of... |
| 04:16.58 | EdLin | geo-rge: if you have to ask something like "should I use sid?" you shouldn't |
| 04:17.02 | geo-rge | he's ask -gasp- another question! |
| 04:17.18 | EdLin | geo-rge: bullshit. I've done a lot of help here. |
| 04:17.27 | geo-rge | at least explain (in detail) why |
| 04:17.59 | geo-rge | don't cop out and make it some kind of secret mystery |
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| 04:18.06 | EdLin | geo-rge: I already explained with my sid example. If you didn't understand the justificaiton for it you're also a hopeless case. |
| 04:18.28 | abrotman | geo-rge: if you have to whine .. .. uhm .. yeah .. that's not gonna work :) |
| 04:18.44 | dn4 | ./autogen.sh: line 7: automake: command not found <-- ideas? |
| 04:18.55 | abrotman | dn4: do you know about apt-file ? |
| 04:18.55 | EdLin | !wayc dn4 |
| 04:18.56 | dpkg | dn4: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 04:19.43 | dn4 | apt-get doesn't have this package |
| 04:19.53 | dn4 | it is a project my buddy is doing |
| 04:19.58 | dn4 | no .deb packages yet |
| 04:19.59 | abrotman | apt-file |
| 04:20.00 | abrotman | not apt-get |
| 04:20.05 | EdLin | dn4: Debian has over 30,000 packages - I have the feeling it has subversion |
| 04:20.15 | abrotman | dn4: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search automake |
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| 04:20.20 | rfrank | dn4 sudo apt-get install automake autoconf |
| 04:20.28 | geo-rge | debian does have subversion |
| 04:20.36 | abrotman | !find bin/svn sarge |
| 04:20.45 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/svn' (6 of 7): (/usr/bin/svn-mirror) in perl/libsvn-mirror-perl ;; (/usr/bin/svn_load_dirs) in admin/subversion-tools ;; (/usr/bin/svnshell) in python/python2.3-subversion ;; (/usr/bin/svn-arch-mirror) in devel/svn-arch-mirror ;; (/usr/bin/{svncviewer|svncviewer.real}) in net/svncviewer ;; (/usr/bin/{svn|svnadmin|svndumpfilter|...}) in devel/subversion. |
| 04:21.08 | dn4 | well subversion was to get the version off of svn |
| 04:21.18 | geo-rge | subversion |
| 04:21.18 | dn4 | debian does not have ingen |
| 04:21.21 | abrotman | !bpo |
| 04:21.21 | dpkg | backports.org is probably an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports> |
| 04:21.48 | geo-rge | dn4: probably debian does not have your buddy's project |
| 04:22.21 | dn4 | right i'd like to figure out a way to get it implimented into the debian apt-get repository |
| 04:22.24 | dn4 | that would be sweet!!! |
| 04:22.27 | geo-rge | but it might if it's been around awhile |
| 04:22.54 | geo-rge | dn4: have your buddy ask for a sponsor |
| 04:23.08 | dn4 | ask for a sponsor what do you mean |
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| 04:23.34 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 04:23.35 | dpkg | i guess mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 04:23.41 | geo-rge | or maybe not a sponsor... but a developer who can package and upload |
| 04:23.48 | dn4 | hehe that is what I want ot learn |
| 04:23.52 | dn4 | package and upload techniques |
| 04:24.03 | dn4 | i'll port his stuff to debian 4 teh debian people |
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| 04:24.13 | EdLin | !teh |
| 04:24.14 | dpkg | Broken keyboard or hand |
| 04:24.33 | geo-rge | dn4: you won't be able to upload... BUT you can learn to package, that's no problem at all |
| 04:25.11 | t0pcat | guys this is probably off-topic and am sorry for posting this question here...was just reading slashdot and came across the article stating debian devels are disenchanted coz of the Dunc-tank experiment - paid funding for a couple of release managers....wanted to know if ppl here have any comments on that |
| 04:25.28 | Guerin | t0pcat: nope. |
| 04:26.07 | Guerin | i'm not sure I trust the source of that claim |
| 04:26.07 | EdLin | t0pcat: slashdot, and especially the article linked, was being a bit sensational |
| 04:26.24 | Guerin | IOW, I haven't heard it from anyone in the know, just some random twit |
| 04:26.26 | geo-rge | what happened in the experiment? |
| 04:26.37 | Guerin | geo-rge: it's in progress |
| 04:26.41 | gravity | peterS may have heard about whether debian has subversion |
| 04:26.42 | geo-rge | oh ok |
| 04:26.44 | dn4 | http://paste.debian.net/18814 <-- tried ./autogen.sh any ideas what is causing this |
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| 04:27.02 | peterS | who what |
| 04:27.11 | geo-rge | where why! |
| 04:27.22 | iLLf8d | huh who |
| 04:27.26 | peterS | t0pcat: it's mostly hogwash. I won't go so far as to say a reporter _made stuff up_, but close |
| 04:27.34 | geo-rge | hup two |
| 04:27.50 | t0pcat | thanks guerin,,,edlin....:)...I quite had a feeling this was a lil too dramatic knowing what lil i know of the awesome deb clan :) |
| 04:27.57 | Guerin | heh |
| 04:28.02 | Guerin | well, it may or may not be true |
| 04:28.09 | Guerin | all I said was you should check it out more |
| 04:28.14 | gravity | It's a little bit sensational |
| 04:28.32 | Guerin | gravity: but only a little bit? |
| 04:28.36 | gravity | Just a touch |
| 04:28.41 | gravity | A smidge |
| 04:28.42 | Guerin | a smidgen? |
| 04:28.45 | abrotman | it has glitter!!!!!! |
| 04:28.45 | peterS | t0pcat: there _is_ some controversy around the dunc-tank project, but it's mostly noise and very little action - people talk a lot but it's not clear very many people are actually slacking off as a result |
| 04:28.45 | gravity | heh |
| 04:28.48 | Guerin | right |
| 04:29.07 | gravity | abrotman likes Mariah Carey movies |
| 04:29.13 | Guerin | abrotman: I knew it! |
| 04:29.19 | abrotman | gravity: at least we know how you spend your free time |
| 04:29.29 | gravity | Debugging git-buildpackage? |
| 04:29.36 | abrotman | i mean .. i'm pretty sure gravity just admitted to watching that movie |
| 04:29.38 | t0pcat | peterS thanks....i hope not....while i don't have any comments either ways on whether a project like dunc-tank is good or bad....trying out something new is always interesting i think |
| 04:29.44 | EdLin | gravity: chatting on IRC |
| 04:29.56 | gravity | I kind of wish I had seen it... I want to see the train wreck in action |
| 04:29.58 | abrotman | because .. i for one have no freaking idea what happens in tha tmovie |
| 04:30.10 | abrotman | gravity: so you use #debian as a substitute? :) |
| 04:30.23 | gravity | abrotman: It's pretty close |
| 04:30.23 | EdLin | heh |
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| 04:31.23 | dn4 | hmmm |
| 04:31.30 | geo-rge | #debian is a substitute for gravity?! |
| 04:31.34 | dn4 | automake-1.9 is not in debian etch |
| 04:31.37 | dn4 | not good |
| 04:31.44 | abrotman | geo-rge: it's got pull ? |
| 04:31.49 | abrotman | suck ? |
| 04:31.58 | geo-rge | you sait that, not me :P |
| 04:32.24 | EdLin | !info automake1.9 |
| 04:32.27 | dpkg | automake1.9: (A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.9.6+nogfdl-3 (sid), Packaged size: 379 kB, Installed size: 1436 kB |
| 04:32.37 | EdLin | !info automake1.9 testing |
| 04:32.43 | dpkg | automake1.9: (A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.9.6+nogfdl-3 (etch), Packaged size: 379 kB, Installed size: 1436 kB |
| 04:33.00 | EdLin | dn4: ^^ |
| 04:33.08 | geo-rge | dn4: but automake1.9 is :) |
| 04:33.18 | EdLin | dn4: you need to learn to search better. |
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| 04:33.33 | EdLin | dn4: "apt-cache search" is your friend. |
| 04:33.57 | dn4 | sweet thank you EdLin and geo-rge |
| 04:34.05 | EdLin | np |
| 04:34.35 | geo-rge | dn4: I did none of that work... only summarized the result |
| 04:34.52 | geo-rge | thanks anyway... others did it |
| 04:35.10 | EdLin | geo-rge: there's a lot of money to be made in summerizing data. ;-) |
| 04:36.16 | abrotman | isn't this why $DIETY made apt-cache ? |
| 04:36.49 | peterS | it's spelled deity, which is important, because that apt project's code name _was_ "deity" while it was in development |
| 04:37.07 | geo-rge | abrotman: culus made that, didn't he? |
| 04:37.11 | peterS | (http://lists.debian.org/deity/) |
| 04:37.11 | abrotman | i can't spell! |
| 04:37.18 | abrotman | stop persecuting my people! |
| 04:37.45 | abrotman | i come from badspelinia! |
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| 04:38.23 | peterS | geo-rge: yes, jason gunthorpe, whom I don't think we've heard much from in quite a long time |
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| 04:38.34 | Guerin | hah |
| 04:40.49 | dn4 | any idea what uses libtoolize |
| 04:40.59 | rfrank | dn4, lots of compile processes |
| 04:40.59 | geo-rge | libtool? |
| 04:41.05 | rfrank | plenty of other things |
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| 04:41.41 | dn4 | i'm getting errors like ./autogen.sh: line 4: libtoolize: command not found |
| 04:41.56 | rfrank | dn4, what are you trying to compile? |
| 04:41.58 | abrotman | dn4: do you have ANY idea how to use apt-file ? |
| 04:42.07 | abrotman | !tell dn4 about search |
| 04:42.11 | abrotman | !tell dn4 about apt-file |
| 04:42.21 | dn4 | abrotman: I know about apt-cache search |
| 04:42.26 | dn4 | but not apt-file xxx |
| 04:42.45 | abrotman | so use apt-file |
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| 04:44.21 | eidolon | hi folks - any reason why 'apt-get update' is wedging on 'bzip2' ? started doing that a week or so ago. |
| 04:44.29 | abrotman | hit ctrl-c .. try again |
| 04:44.41 | eidolon | abrotman: i have, about 30 times in the last 3 days. |
| 04:45.15 | eidolon | nope, stuck. |
| 04:45.23 | abrotman | eidolon: tried another mirror ?> |
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| 04:45.31 | abrotman | i haven't noticed any such oddness myself |
| 04:46.14 | eidolon | here's my current sources.list: http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/237 |
| 04:47.22 | eidolon | i use mit only cuz i'm in boston :) and i know that has nothing to do with network topology :) |
| 04:47.32 | gravity | yeah boston |
| 04:47.33 | rfrank | eidolon, you only have 1 unstable source? are you using stable or unstable |
| 04:48.11 | eidolon | well, i'm using what's named as 'etch', which is now 'testing', yes? |
| 04:48.13 | Kitu | pleaaaaaaaaase |
| 04:48.24 | Kitu | can i install xorg on a hosted server ? |
| 04:48.25 | abrotman | maybe boston can use some of that matsuzaka money and get a working intarweb :) |
| 04:48.26 | eidolon | i don't midn rewriting my sources.list. i'm sure it's out of date. |
| 04:48.34 | Kitu | can i install xorg on a provided server ? |
| 04:48.40 | eidolon | Kitu: you can install xorg anywhere you awnt. |
| 04:48.45 | Supaplex | provided? |
| 04:48.46 | Kitu | but ... |
| 04:48.52 | abrotman | Kitu: why would you ? |
| 04:48.56 | Kitu | it don't detect my monitor lol |
| 04:49.02 | Kitu | because it's virtual |
| 04:49.05 | eidolon | ... |
| 04:49.10 | Supaplex | do you have root access? |
| 04:49.14 | Kitu | yes |
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| 04:49.24 | eidolon | virtual... what? like 'xen'? or vncserver? or? |
| 04:49.36 | Supaplex | you can install the libs, so stuff like xapps can run over ssh, but I don't think you need the full blown xorg. |
| 04:49.44 | Kitu | several virtuals servers on a machin i think |
| 04:49.46 | Supaplex | uml? |
| 04:49.52 | Supaplex | ... you think... |
| 04:49.54 | abrotman | Kitu: why do you want X ? |
| 04:49.54 | eli1 | Hi there's anyway to get from repositories packages compiled to i_686 ? |
| 04:49.59 | eidolon | yeah, what Supaplex is asking. what are you trying to do? |
| 04:50.02 | Supaplex | how can we define the problem if you can't describe it? |
| 04:50.05 | abrotman | eli1: |
| 04:50.05 | abrotman | no |
| 04:50.14 | Kitu | abrotman# to run program with wine |
| 04:50.17 | Kitu | in fact ... |
| 04:50.20 | Kitu | it worked |
| 04:50.24 | eidolon | anyway - rfrank - if i'm running against testing, which is where i want to be, should i jsut replace 'etch' with 'testing' in that sources.list? |
| 04:50.32 | rfrank | eidolon, yes |
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| 04:50.40 | Kitu | and on #winehq they told me to install xorg ... |
| 04:50.44 | Kitu | packages broken ... |
| 04:50.46 | abrotman | Kitu: you want to run wine .. on a shared srever .. remotely ? |
| 04:50.47 | Kitu | with debian |
| 04:50.48 | eidolon | hang on, lemme do so, if you coudl validate it a'fore i run update, that woudl be great. |
| 04:50.49 | Guerin | eli1: /msg dpkg woft |
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| 04:51.01 | Kitu | yes abrotman |
| 04:51.15 | abrotman | Kitu: why god why? |
| 04:51.19 | Kitu | "serveur dédié" |
| 04:51.22 | Kitu | arf |
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| 04:51.39 | eidolon | hmm. i wonder what i have from unstable? i have it as a source. can i do a policy lookup to see what packages i have that might be pinned from unstable? |
| 04:51.54 | Guerin | eidolon: nope |
| 04:51.55 | Kitu | delicated server abrotman |
| 04:51.59 | Kitu | lol |
| 04:52.02 | abrotman | yes .. but why run wine ? |
| 04:52.17 | Guerin | eidolon: except by reading /etc/apt/preferences |
| 04:52.18 | Kitu | to run irc scrabble bot |
| 04:52.25 | abrotman | are you freaking serious ? |
| 04:52.27 | Guerin | wtf |
| 04:52.29 | Kitu | WScrabble.exe |
| 04:52.32 | eidolon | ah, i have a pinned firefox to unstable. |
| 04:52.34 | eidolon | that's moot now. |
| 04:52.39 | Guerin | whiskey tango foxtrot |
| 04:52.51 | abrotman | can't decide if that's a *plonk* or a !pal |
| 04:52.53 | eidolon | *looks at kitu* |
| 04:53.01 | Kitu | with just text in out abrotman for this program and i don't know why i need xorg for that |
| 04:53.05 | Kitu | because it worked |
| 04:53.15 | Kitu | and it stop in the night without reasons |
| 04:53.21 | eidolon | you want.. to install xorg, on a hosted presumably headless serve,r so you can run wine, so you can run a simple scrabble bot for IRC???!? |
| 04:53.41 | Kitu | yeeeeeeees |
| 04:53.47 | abrotman | on debian ? |
| 04:53.52 | eidolon | take a laptop, running windows, park it in the corner of your house, and run the scrabble bot on that. |
| 04:53.54 | Kitu | yes |
| 04:54.06 | Kitu | what ? |
| 04:54.06 | Guerin | Kitu: can't you run the scrabble bot on a radom windows machine someplace? |
| 04:54.16 | Kitu | no |
| 04:54.24 | Kitu | not a server ... |
| 04:54.26 | Guerin | that would be much less pain |
| 04:54.31 | Kitu | every time connected ... |
| 04:54.35 | roe_ | there is a process called [migration/1] running as PID 5 can anyone point me in a direction to better define what that is? |
| 04:54.55 | Kitu | look this |
| 04:54.57 | Kitu | xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) |
| 04:54.58 | eidolon | http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/238 <-- updates sources.list and associated preferecnes file. am i good to go? I was going to just delete the preferences file. |
| 04:54.58 | Kitu | :( |
| 04:55.01 | smacnay | What are some good console sound players for linux? Like cplay? |
| 04:55.09 | Kitu | for me eidolon ? |
| 04:55.15 | Guerin | smacnay: cplay is the best by far |
| 04:55.19 | abrotman | that has nothing to do with xorg |
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| 04:55.25 | eidolon | Kitu: no, not for you. but seriously, don't do what you'retrying to do. get a windows machine and run it there. |
| 04:55.39 | abrotman | Kitu: ls -l /dev/tty0 |
| 04:55.42 | smacnay | Guerin: it uses /dev/mixer and I seem to not have that set up on my system. |
| 04:55.43 | Kitu | arfffffff |
| 04:55.47 | Guerin | smacnay: others are mocp, mp3blaster and mpc/mpd |
| 04:55.55 | smacnay | Guerin: thanks |
| 04:56.00 | Kitu | crw------- 1 root root 4, 0 Dec 21 03:24 /dev/tty0 |
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| 04:56.05 | Kitu | lol |
| 04:56.29 | Kitu | nothing |
| 04:56.29 | Guerin | they mostly have very limited format support |
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| 04:56.30 | abrotman | $ ls -l /dev/tty0 |
| 04:56.30 | abrotman | crw-rw---- 1 root root 4, 0 2006-12-20 12:42 /dev/tty0 |
| 04:56.36 | Kitu | can't i emulate a monitor ? |
| 04:56.40 | Kitu | hum |
| 04:56.43 | Guerin | Kitu: how would you? |
| 04:56.45 | eidolon | kitu, seriously, don't do what you're doing. |
| 04:56.48 | abrotman | okay . ignore what i said ... |
| 04:56.57 | eidolon | it's ridiculous. |
| 04:57.12 | Kitu | abrotman# it's normal so ? |
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| 04:57.20 | abrotman | it looks normal ? |
| 04:57.31 | Kitu | i have glaces :) |
| 04:58.05 | Kitu | so what is the problem with my xorg ? |
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| 04:58.10 | peterS | Kitu: if you _must_ run a graphical app on a headless server, install 'xvfb'. but that's still an insane thing to do just for an irc bot |
| 04:58.24 | Kitu | buuuuuuuuuut |
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| 04:58.29 | Kitu | debian with wine sux :( |
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| 04:58.45 | Kitu | because IT WORKED before |
| 04:58.45 | abrotman | how about the wrong perms on /dev/tty0 ? |
| 04:59.09 | Kitu | hm |
| 04:59.10 | Kitu | ? |
| 04:59.17 | Kitu | i'm root |
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| 04:59.18 | Kitu | ... |
| 04:59.32 | smacnay | Guerin: snd-mixer-oss was not loaded. |
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| 04:59.37 | Kitu | and rw rights so |
| 04:59.39 | Guerin | smacnay: mm, nice. |
| 04:59.47 | black_13 | how do uninstall a package |
| 04:59.55 | peterS | aptitude remove packagename |
| 04:59.55 | Guerin | black_13: man aptitude |
| 05:00.04 | Guerin | honestly |
| 05:00.04 | Kitu | apt-get remove --purge black_13 |
| 05:00.10 | black_13 | sure |
| 05:00.11 | sid | yea, I do it how Kitu does it. |
| 05:00.15 | peterS | Kitu: wtf, why --purge? what if he wants to reinstall it later? |
| 05:00.17 | black_13 | this is a custom .deb |
| 05:00.21 | Kitu | tu purge :) |
| 05:00.25 | Kitu | to |
| 05:00.31 | Guerin | this is like walking into a mechanic and asking how to put your car in reverse |
| 05:00.42 | Kitu | stop tu use WTF i don't understand :( |
| 05:00.45 | eidolon | Guerin: when you own a motorcycle. |
| 05:00.51 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:01.17 | Guerin | it must be a shock to get that many WTFs in one go |
| 05:01.26 | Kitu | sid# ? |
| 05:01.29 | peterS | see ya abortman |
| 05:01.33 | Guerin | abrotman: g'night |
| 05:01.36 | abrotman | heh |
| 05:01.45 | abrotman | maybe my flight will actually go tomorrow! |
| 05:01.49 | Kitu | sid# in command line mode ? |
| 05:01.51 | peterS | yay for flights that go |
| 05:01.55 | Kitu | in a terminal ? |
| 05:01.59 | Guerin | or maybe you'll be lucky enough to stay home for hate-mass |
| 05:02.02 | abrotman | hehe |
| 05:02.05 | ndowens | how can i make apt not try and download a program, i canceled it from downloading but if i install another program it will still try and install it |
| 05:02.18 | Guerin | ndowens: remove it |
| 05:02.29 | ndowens | o yea thanks i forgot |
| 05:02.31 | Kitu | you must to be root sid |
| 05:02.36 | Kitu | or in sudoers file |
| 05:03.19 | Kitu | arf |
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| 05:03.28 | Kitu | who have a problem with apt ? lol |
| 05:05.32 | Kitu | nobody answere why it worked before and not now |
| 05:05.33 | Kitu | ;( |
| 05:05.47 | eli1 | in aptitude some packages appears with an 'A' flag follow the 'i' flag (stands by installed), I look at the docs to explain but there's none explanation for, does anyone know what does this 'A' flag mean ? |
| 05:06.05 | peterS | eli1: it means you did not select that package explicitly, it was installed as a dependency of something else |
| 05:06.20 | pab | does iceweasel have a spell checker? |
| 05:06.23 | eli1 | peterS: thks |
| 05:06.23 | black_13 | how do i get newer kernel than 2.6.8 |
| 05:06.24 | peterS | eli1: so if you remove everything that needs the package, aptitude will helpfully remove that package as well, since you never indicated that you actually wanted it |
| 05:06.40 | Guerin | pab: ff2 does, so I don't see why not |
| 05:06.42 | peterS | eli1: if you _do_ specifically want some package that is marked as "A", you can use 'm' and 'M' to change this flag |
| 05:07.13 | pab | cool, will give it a go |
| 05:07.20 | peterS | eli1: this 'auto-installed' flag on packages is the biggest feature of aptitude, the biggest reason to use it instead of apt-get |
| 05:08.08 | eli1 | peterS: hm.. see, you help me a lot, since I use aptitude for a long and never had a clue about |
| 05:08.14 | Kitu | hummmmmmmmm |
| 05:08.35 | Kitu | why it work with a user and not an other user ? |
| 05:08.48 | Kitu | i don't understand |
| 05:09.13 | peterS | Kitu: you are babbling now. you are talking but not giving us any information. we cannot help you if all you say is "i don't understand" and "it worked before but now it's broken". those things do not tell us anything. so stop that now. |
| 05:09.17 | eli1 | peterS: it's strange this not be mentioned in the help, none in man either in the on-line help of it |
| 05:09.31 | peterS | eli1: yeah I forget how I first learned of this feature and how to use it |
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| 05:09.54 | Kitu | i don't knew peterS ... |
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| 05:10.23 | Kitu | the helper must know ask the goods questions too |
| 05:10.45 | Guerin | among other, more glamorous conspiracy theories I found this one: `Was Christ really crucified?' |
| 05:11.25 | peterS | Kitu: the way you are rambling on, complaining about wine and how frustrated you are, you are giving us reasons not to _want_ to spend time helping you. think about that. |
| 05:11.46 | Kitu | i did't think what was it because i had change the user .... |
| 05:11.51 | Guerin | if in fact you CAN think! |
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| 05:12.11 | peterS | Guerin: that's the crux of the matter, isn't it? pun intended |
| 05:12.39 | Guerin | peterS: heh. Depends if you care about the detals or not. |
| 05:12.48 | Guerin | the devil supposedly is in them |
| 05:12.55 | peterS | true enough |
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| 05:13.10 | Kitu | ... |
| 05:13.39 | Kitu | if i have a problem i can't resolve the problem |
| 05:13.51 | Kitu | it's stupid what you say |
| 05:14.25 | [pacha] | hi there, i need a hand here |
| 05:14.30 | Guerin | Kitu: no, you're not saying anything. |
| 05:14.59 | Kitu | i have paste erros ... |
| 05:15.02 | Kitu | errors |
| 05:15.24 | Kitu | "bref" |
| 05:15.26 | [pacha] | Im compiling my own kernel. I need to know abot "Processor type and feature" options. Especificaly for an AMD athlon |
| 05:16.49 | [pacha] | Subarchitecture Type > Pc comptabile, right? |
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| 05:17.46 | [pacha] | Generic x86 support (NEW) do i check it? |
| 05:17.49 | linux2 | hey can anyone help me with my new laptop |
| 05:17.54 | linux2 | its got an intel chipsetr |
| 05:17.56 | Kitu | and i don't know again why i can't change user to run the program |
| 05:17.58 | linux2 | for display card |
| 05:17.59 | Guerin | [pacha]: you need to read the help |
| 05:18.12 | linux2 | and well for some reason it only lets me set the display to 1024x768 |
| 05:18.20 | linux2 | but not 1280x1024 |
| 05:18.22 | Guerin | [pacha]: if you don't know the answer to those questions, you're not ready to build a kernel |
| 05:18.37 | Guerin | linux2: what's the native resolution of the lcd? |
| 05:19.01 | [pacha] | [Guerin] i am reading, just to know a little more about that especific options |
| 05:19.10 | Guerin | [pacha]: read the help |
| 05:19.17 | linux2 | Guerin: 1280x800 i believe |
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| 05:19.23 | Guerin | [pacha]: this is all you need to do. most modules are documentated |
| 05:19.24 | linux2 | Guerin: won't let me set to that either |
| 05:19.28 | Guerin | linux2: don't believe. |
| 05:20.04 | linux2 | Guerin: well what is wrong with it |
| 05:20.11 | linux2 | i believe it is loading the wrong drivers |
| 05:20.17 | linux2 | not the i810 as i specify |
| 05:20.28 | linux2 | and isn't there a way to force the resolution anyways |
| 05:20.33 | Guerin | linux2: be sure about the stock laptop dimension |
| 05:20.51 | linux2 | Guerin: positive, worked in windows when i got the laptop |
| 05:20.53 | Guerin | linux2: an lcd display can't chane resolutions freely, because its dot pitch ca't change |
| 05:20.54 | linux2 | 1280x800 |
| 05:21.19 | linux2 | Guerin: just so you know, its an acer aspire 3680 |
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| 05:21.23 | Guerin | linux2: does it look normal at 1024x768, or corrupted and very blocky? |
| 05:21.30 | Guerin | means nothing to me |
| 05:21.52 | NaufraGo | hi. can I change partition sizes by debian? |
| 05:22.04 | Guerin | NaufraGo: you have our permission to partition. |
| 05:22.05 | dasunt | Got a sarge 2.6 system, with a RAID-5 / and a RAID-1 /boot. |
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| 05:22.21 | dasunt | Should I have a seperate RAID-1 swap partition, or use a swapfile? |
| 05:22.22 | NaufraGo | Guerin, what? |
| 05:22.27 | Guerin | NaufraGo: you have our permission to partition. |
| 05:22.31 | NaufraGo | Guerin, what? |
| 05:22.34 | Guerin | NaufraGo: you have our permission to partition. |
| 05:22.38 | NaufraGo | haha |
| 05:22.56 | NaufraGo | come on.. how do I set partitions by debian? |
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| 05:23.14 | NaufraGo | for my hdd |
| 05:23.15 | Guerin | NaufraGo: using one of the fdisks or parteds |
| 05:23.55 | jjazz | Guerin: Do you provide permission on any other issue, or is it just partitions? |
| 05:24.10 | NaufraGo | look, I have debian in one partition and another OS in another partition, can I change their sizes? |
| 05:24.15 | Guerin | jjazz: sometimes other things. Try me. |
| 05:24.31 | Guerin | NaufraGo: as Isaid, you are welcome to do so. |
| 05:24.35 | Guerin | please! |
| 05:24.38 | Guerin | be our guest! |
| 05:24.42 | roe_ | anyone know if netconsole-server is packaged somewhere? |
| 05:24.52 | Guerin | roe_: you can, if you /msg dpkg search |
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| 05:24.57 | linux2 | Guerin: blocky and stretched |
| 05:25.10 | jjazz | Guerin: I'm on the fence about this next glass of bourbon. I need an enabler. |
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| 05:25.25 | Guerin | linux2: ok, so the native resolution isn't that, then. Your log will tell you which driver is being loaded. |
| 05:25.36 | Guerin | jjazz: and I am pleased to be that very enabler. |
| 05:26.42 | jjazz | Guerin: This channel is truly full service. If my hungover self could travel back in time from tomorrow, it might disagree, but I thank you. |
| 05:26.55 | Guerin | jjazz: hangovers are for the weak! |
| 05:27.03 | EdLin_ | I'm having a problem with exim. It keeps sending out mail from me with my login name rather than my email (before the @) address. |
| 05:27.06 | Guerin | it's lack of sleep which does me in most |
| 05:27.12 | jjazz | Guerin: Or the intrepid. |
| 05:27.25 | teledyn | EdLin_: what's in /etc/mailname ? |
| 05:27.27 | Guerin | EdLin_: #exim |
| 05:29.01 | EdLin | teledyn: gmail.com |
| 05:29.10 | teledyn | anyone know if there's a special way we're supposed to umount drives when famd is running? |
| 05:29.24 | linux2 | WTF!!!! |
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| 05:29.31 | linux2 | it won't let me change my resolution |
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| 05:29.34 | linux2 | why the hell not? |
| 05:29.40 | linux2 | worked find in winblows |
| 05:30.04 | Guerin | you probably have refresh ranges set wrong |
| 05:30.29 | Guerin | use hwinfo --monitor to figure out what it can do |
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| 05:32.01 | Supaplex | how can I allow m-a to compile drivers that are not already available through this interface? |
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| 05:34.45 | black_13 | again i ask how do i newer kernel |
| 05:34.46 | btiffin | shorewall; is DISABLE_IPV6 in shorewall.conf enough or do I need to lock down the sit0: ipv4 tunnel? |
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| 05:35.11 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me to change my partition sizes? |
| 05:35.31 | Supaplex | black_13: how do you newer kernel? restate your question. |
| 05:35.38 | black_13 | sorry |
| 05:35.40 | NaufraGo | I try sfdisk -i /dev/sda1 .... but it doesn't work |
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| 05:35.44 | black_13 | dyslexia |
| 05:35.49 | Supaplex | :) |
| 05:36.21 | black_13 | i would like have a kernel that is newer than 2.6.8 |
| 05:36.41 | Supaplex | you can try a backport, or /msg dpkg kp |
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| 05:37.38 | respli1 | NaufraGo: Just cfdisk will bring up the ncurses interface. |
| 05:38.02 | black_13 | i have added backport to source.list |
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| 05:38.28 | respli1 | Has anyone here played with ASSP+Postfix? |
| 05:39.01 | NaufraGo | mm, about GNU Parted.. can I resize a winxp partition? |
| 05:39.09 | Supaplex | what's assp? |
| 05:39.21 | Supaplex | !info parted |
| 05:39.27 | dpkg | parted: (The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 05:39.33 | pab | NaufraGo: You HAVE backed up everything...right? |
| 05:39.54 | black_13 | Supaplex ? |
| 05:39.58 | respli1 | Supaplex: ASSP is an anti-spam prefilter written in Perl. |
| 05:39.58 | NaufraGo | save my data? |
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| 05:40.24 | respli1 | It sits in front of your mailserver (in this case postfix), and drops the spam connections before the messages are accepted. |
| 05:40.50 | respli1 | In this case, I can't get the auto-whitelist to work. |
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| 05:41.53 | Supaplex | black_13: if there's a backport you like, then install that. |
| 05:42.05 | teledyn | Guerin: i tried the hwinfo --monitor and it caused my screen to scroll. had to reboot |
| 05:42.36 | Supaplex | respli1: brain's mostly fog now. maybe #postfix can help :) |
| 05:42.43 | amphi | black_13: there's a 2.6.17 backport IIRC, but you'll need to install other stuff also I think - why do you need a newer kernel? |
| 05:43.03 | respli1 | Supaplex: #postfix is pretty dead right now. Thanks for the suggestion though. Sleep well! |
| 05:43.03 | black_13 | curiousity |
| 05:43.55 | Guerin | teledyn: oo. |
| 05:44.07 | amphi | black_13: complete that well-known phrase ;) |
| 05:44.20 | siimo | i backported 2.6.16 |
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| 05:44.34 | Guerin | respli1: how does it determine what's spam? |
| 05:44.45 | black_13 | amphi i would like to see if a "newer" kernel improves performance |
| 05:44.51 | Guerin | black_13: it won't |
| 05:45.17 | black_13 | then what are new kernels made? |
| 05:45.28 | Guerin | mostly for hardware support |
| 05:45.29 | black_13 | s/why/what/ |
| 05:45.32 | respli1 | Guerin: It can do Bayesian filtering, DNSRBL, HELO checks, SPF, greylisting, etc. |
| 05:45.44 | Guerin | eew, blacklisting |
| 05:46.09 | Guerin | greylisting is the win |
| 05:46.14 | respli1 | Unfortunately it's also a 10,000 line perl script, so it's kind of a pain to figure out how to use. |
| 05:46.20 | Guerin | but isn't perl a bit heavy for that sort of work? |
| 05:46.23 | Guerin | yeah |
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| 05:48.15 | black_13 | amphi i would still like to proceed with installation |
| 05:49.11 | amphi | black_13: you may proceed |
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| 05:50.18 | NaufraGo | is there any app. to resize ntfs (win) partitions? |
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| 05:50.26 | NaufraGo | gnu parted doesn't |
| 05:50.32 | amphi | NaufraGo: parted does |
| 05:50.49 | NaufraGo | http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/features.shtml |
| 05:51.08 | amphi | NaufraGo: I've done it |
| 05:51.19 | NaufraGo | really.. |
| 05:51.25 | gcbirzan | They lie. |
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| 05:51.31 | black_13 | amphi http://rafb.net/paste/results/K4FmaE61.html |
| 05:51.34 | NaufraGo | without destroying data? |
| 05:51.36 | Guerin | yes |
| 05:51.38 | Guerin | it works |
| 05:51.43 | amphi | NaufraGo: yes, remarkably |
| 05:51.44 | gcbirzan | But. |
| 05:51.55 | gcbirzan | NaufraGo: You do know of this wonderful tool they just invented? |
| 05:51.57 | amphi | NaufraGo: well, AFAIK ;) |
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| 05:52.01 | Guerin | you're a fool if you don't back up, but it is known to work |
| 05:52.03 | gcbirzan | NaufraGo: It allows you to search the Internet for stuff. |
| 05:52.05 | pstickne | dpkg, java |
| 05:52.05 | dpkg | Java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun partially released java as GPL on Nov 13, 2006 (rest expected to be released in 2007). There are other implentations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in etch/sid in non-free. Ask me about <install java>. |
| 05:52.18 | amphi | black_13: what is that you offer me? |
| 05:52.24 | Guerin | gcbirzan: you mean altavista.com! |
| 05:52.27 | gcbirzan | NaufraGo: http://www.google.com/search?q=ntfs+resize&btnI= |
| 05:52.33 | gcbirzan | Guerin: No, I mean Yahoo!. |
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| 05:52.38 | Guerin | noes! |
| 05:52.40 | gcbirzan | That, hm. Let me get this quote right. |
| 05:53.10 | black_13 | amphi that is what i get when i attempt to install a kernel |
| 05:53.12 | amphi | shouldn't that be "No! I! mean! Yahoo!" ? |
| 05:53.19 | gcbirzan | Have a 'topnotch engineering department. If it's possible to fix this problem, rest assured they'll do it! (They pride themselves as master troubleshooters.)' |
| 05:53.40 | NaufraGo | so finally, do you suggest using parted to resize my win XP partition? |
| 05:53.52 | amphi | black_13: I did try to be discouraging... |
| 05:54.07 | amphi | NaufraGo: as opposed to what? |
| 05:54.09 | gcbirzan | NaufraGo: You could try that link I gave you. |
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| 05:55.09 | black_13 | amphi ill keep bugging you |
| 05:55.31 | amphi | there's always the oubliette... ;) |
| 05:55.42 | NaufraGo | ok |
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| 05:55.59 | amphi | black_13: install the packages for which it whimpers so piteiously, I guess |
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| 05:57.17 | amphi | black_13: I didn't install such a kernel on sarge myself, I built a vanilla one |
| 05:57.45 | black_13 | really! |
| 05:57.52 | black_13 | living on the edge |
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| 05:59.38 | black_13 | amphi want to share a .config with me? |
| 06:00.02 | Guerin | wtf is the point? |
| 06:00.10 | Guerin | it's not like his hardware will be like yours |
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| 06:00.21 | amphi | black_13: I'm running etch |
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| 06:01.02 | black_13 | sure |
| 06:01.34 | amphi | black_13: if you're lazy, you can just build with the debian .config; it'll build loads of stuff you don't need, but it will at least work (probably ;) |
| 06:02.02 | peterS | black_13: dude, if you aren't even confident in your ability to create a kernel config file, why are you compiling one? somebody else (at backports.org) has already gone to the trouble of building and testing a kernel with a lot of knowledge about kernel patching and configuration |
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| 06:03.53 | billybong | anybody here use the "S3 Savage 2k" or "S3 UniChrome 2D/3D" video card in X ? |
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| 06:05.06 | black_13 | peterS actually you gave me an idea |
| 06:05.21 | peterS | that's why I'm here |
| 06:05.50 | black_13 | i have a snappy comeback but i dont want to get banned |
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| 06:06.38 | CrazednDazed | what is the name of the package that has the actual new kernel in it? Is it linux-headers? |
| 06:06.51 | peterS | linux-image-... |
| 06:07.07 | billybong | anybody? |
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| 06:07.29 | peterS | billybong: you don't care if anyone uses that or not. your real question is something else, probably because you have one and you're having some problem with it |
| 06:07.34 | NaufraGo | look. I have a NTFS partition of 20GB and a linux partition of 50GB, of I want to increase my win partition to 40GB, I have to decrease my linux partition, Don't I? |
| 06:07.35 | amphi | billybong: what makes you ask? |
| 06:07.35 | peterS | billybong: so just ask your real question |
| 06:07.55 | billybong | peters yes actually i'm wondering if they happen to have the same problem i do |
| 06:08.00 | amphi | NaufraGo: that's not permitted |
| 06:08.00 | billybong | or if they founda way around it |
| 06:08.07 | NaufraGo | why? |
| 06:08.07 | peterS | billybong: you'll probably never know unless you tell us what your problem _is_ |
| 06:08.08 | amphi | billybong: which is...? |
| 06:08.09 | billybong | i have an S3 Savage 2k 64MB video card |
| 06:08.22 | amphi | NaufraGo: I joke |
| 06:08.30 | NaufraGo | so.. |
| 06:08.46 | amphi | NaufraGo: if it were me, I would backup, repartition, and restore |
| 06:09.08 | billybong | i used number 23 in the xorgconfig which is Generic "savage" driver. X and everythign work find but when i try to play video with mplayer or xine or anything else i try the screen goes yellow and all blurry and sh ifts to the right a bit |
| 06:09.13 | NaufraGo | that's a longer way, isn't it? |
| 06:09.38 | btiffin | in a firewall, is a ipv6 ivp4 tunnel covered under the rules for eth0? |
| 06:09.39 | billybong | i then have to use "ctrl+alt+f#" to go back to console, kill the video player and then return back to X and everything is back to normal |
| 06:09.49 | black_13 | peterS actually im just tired and should turn in |
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| 06:10.07 | billybong | has anybody else had this problem ? |
| 06:10.58 | amphi | billybong: did you look in man savage? I had an older savage card before, and there was a documented workaround for it in there, FWIW |
| 06:11.02 | billybong | my onboard video is S3 UniChrome and i would be willing to use that instead of my AGP Savage2k if i can play video with it |
| 06:11.17 | billybong | amphi, you had the same problem before? |
| 06:11.17 | amphi | billybong: workaround for the problem I had with it |
| 06:11.29 | amphi | billybong: no, different problem ;) |
| 06:12.20 | peterS | billybong: also, the fact that you had to run some weird 'xorgconfig' script indicates you might not be using Debian packages of x.org. because if you were using Debian packaging, it would have prompted you with some configuration questions when you first installed the package |
| 06:12.27 | billybong | i looked through the man page last night but didn't see anything on it |
| 06:12.33 | billybong | i've googled like crazy but still nothing |
| 06:12.51 | billybong | i came here as a last resort to see if possibly one of you guys had the same problem and knew how to fix it |
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| 06:13.09 | billybong | i do my best to fix stuff before i come bother other people for help |
| 06:13.45 | NaufraGo | look. I have a NTFS partition of 20GB and a linux partition of 50GB, if I want to increase my win partition to 40GB, I have to decrease my linux partition, Don't I? |
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| 06:13.58 | billybong | yes |
| 06:14.06 | RememberPOL | Is there a way to check which packages depend on a package? |
| 06:14.44 | teledyn | RememberPOL: apt-cache showpkg <package> |
| 06:14.51 | amphi | NaufraGo: yes, that is clear |
| 06:15.05 | billybong | peters, do yuo have any idea as to what i can do to fix the problem? |
| 06:15.08 | cahoot | unless there is some free space |
| 06:15.19 | NaufraGo | how do I decrease my linux partition? |
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| 06:16.05 | peterS | billybong: you are ignoring what amphi suggested, aren't you? |
| 06:16.12 | teledyn | NaufraGo: you could use a knoppix Cd and run qtparted |
| 06:16.35 | NaufraGo | mm, I would try by win |
| 06:16.40 | NaufraGo | is that possible? |
| 06:16.52 | peterS | NaufraGo: resizing a Linux partition using Windows tools? not bloody likely |
| 06:16.55 | RememberPOL | apt-cache rdepends moo |
| 06:17.26 | billybong | peters, no i read through the man page it didn't have anything related to my problem |
| 06:17.29 | NaufraGo | mm, I'm so bored of this |
| 06:17.36 | peterS | NaufraGo: when have you _ever_ heard that _any_ Windows tools acknowledge that a user might _ever_ have Linux installed? it doesn't happen often (: |
| 06:18.08 | billybong | peterS, i've actually read through it a couple times |
| 06:18.45 | NaufraGo | well, is there anby way to resize my linux partition from that partition? |
| 06:18.47 | peterS | billybong: so install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome and try using the 'via' driver instead |
| 06:18.51 | NaufraGo | any.. |
| 06:19.21 | teledyn | NaufraGo: please go ask in a windows channel. we offered you a solution and you ignored it. now you're annoying us. |
| 06:19.30 | peterS | NaufraGo: it's not trivial to resize a linux partition if you are _using_ that same partition right now, like if it is your debian system filesystem and you're using debian. this is why we suggest using knoppix, which doesn't use your disk since it is running from a CD |
| 06:19.34 | Malagmyr | NaufraGo: if the linux partition is ext2/3, I think partition magic can do it |
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| 06:19.45 | Malagmyr | NaufraGo: don't keep important data on it though |
| 06:21.18 | NaufraGo | teledyn, have I said I ignored any of your suggestions? |
| 06:21.46 | NaufraGo | I just want to find an easier way to resize my partition :) |
| 06:21.47 | teledyn | NaufraGo: you didn't say it but you did |
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| 06:22.23 | teledyn | NaufraGo: knoppix is the best way to do it since it would not require the filesystem to be mounted |
| 06:22.46 | NaufraGo | alright |
| 06:22.48 | billybong | 1632 |
| 06:22.53 | teledyn | NaufraGo: also, qtparted is probably better than any winblows solution like partition magic, which i've seen trash partitions many times |
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| 06:23.00 | billybong | 2396 |
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| 06:23.52 | liable | hrm, i am getting aptitude hanging again on updates, on a different box.. |
| 06:23.53 | peterS | OTOH, they did one good deed: that 'resize2fs' program on your system? they paid for it to be written |
| 06:23.55 | teledyn | NaufraGo: better still, just resize your windoze partiton to 0 :-) |
| 06:24.11 | peterS | of course it was non-free for a couple years before they released it as GPL - that was the deal |
| 06:24.32 | amphi | peterS: that's something indeed |
| 06:24.53 | billybong | amphi, thanks for the suggestions i appreciate the help |
| 06:24.56 | peterS | amphi: hmmm, 'man resize2fs' says copyright PowerQuest. I wonder if that's the same people. I thought for sure he wrote it for Partition Magic |
| 06:24.59 | teledyn | i wonder if that was before the symantec takeover |
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| 06:25.03 | billybong | but i guess i'll have to google harder |
| 06:25.07 | billybong | :) |
| 06:25.08 | billybong | peace |
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| 06:25.46 | teledyn | powerquest was the original developer, so that was before symantec then |
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| 06:26.35 | CrazednDazed | Okay, I got ndiswrapper installed succesfully; modprobe ndisrapper returns version 1.28 loaded. I have the pcmia card inserted, and /sbin/iwconfig returns the name of my card. Where do I put the windows drivers for ndiswrapper to use them? |
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| 06:28.47 | peterS | teledyn: so powerquest was the company that produced partition magic? |
| 06:28.56 | peterS | (this was in 1998) |
| 06:29.04 | Guerin | yeah |
| 06:29.16 | Guerin | if I was on a quest for power I'd have set my sights a bit higher |
| 06:29.19 | teledyn | peterS: yes. the original one. then it got bought out by symantec a couple years ago. |
| 06:29.36 | peterS | then I do remember correctly. they needed an ext2 resizer, so they paid the ext2 developer (Ted Ts'o) to write one, under the condition that he could make it GPL 2 years later |
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| 06:29.50 | Guerin | haha |
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| 06:30.35 | peterS | it might not have mattered, though. someone else (andreas metzler?) wrote 'ext2resize' around the same time, long before resize2fs became GPL |
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| 06:37.27 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 06:37.27 | dpkg | -dmwaters- {global notice} Hi all! One of our staffer used brackets in a kline, and this caused the servers to crash. We're working on an immediate fix for this problem, and hopefully will have something as soon as possible. I'm very sorry for the interuptions that this has caused, and thank you all for your patience. |
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| 06:38.32 | peterS | I wonder if "one of our staffers" was dmwaters herself (: |
| 06:38.41 | liable | heh |
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| 06:45.19 | nayyare-off | how can i configure the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to a directory, i want to setup it to OCI8 directory? |
| 06:45.40 | nayyare-off | in fact i want to build oci8 support in apache? |
| 06:46.53 | CrazednDazed | http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation < using the how-to there. when I do ndiswrapper -l, it lists: lsbcmnds driver installed (alternate driver: bcm43xx) and when I unplug and reinsert the card, it says bcm43xx. I want to use the lsbcmnds driver, any idea how to...switch them? |
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| 06:48.58 | wireddd | why would brackets cause a kline? |
| 06:49.20 | Guerin | nayyare-off: edit /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig |
| 06:49.35 | Guerin | wireddd: because someone's ircd is retarded |
| 06:49.40 | wireddd | I mean why would brackets cause a crash? |
| 06:49.50 | Guerin | wireddd: because someone's ircd is retarded |
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| 06:50.04 | wireddd | sounds like it |
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| 06:51.05 | wireddd | they must be using that irc server I wrote in vb when I was 13 |
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| 06:54.06 | nayyare-off | Guerin, i have installed php,apache on webserver, is there any need to reinstall it, for building support for oci8 or i can do it with current installation? |
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| 06:58.42 | Guerin | i have absolutely no idea what oci8 is |
| 06:59.14 | wireddd | but guerin, you are supposed to know everything! |
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| 07:01.09 | codester | sup ppl, anyone know the name of a tools that check what modules needed to be recompiled against a newly updated kernel? I remember it start with moudules... something lol, help appreciated =) |
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| 07:01.42 | nayyare-off | Guerin, i need an idea from you, look, i have a webserver that host a site that will connect to an other oserver which is oracle server, now, in which server i should build the instantclient support ? |
| 07:01.54 | liable | i think you mean module-assistant |
| 07:02.19 | codester | liable, ahh k thanks i'll take a look =) |
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| 07:04.58 | CrazednDazed | Can I download a file with lynx or do I have to use wget? |
| 07:06.28 | centrx | you can use lynx |
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| 07:07.43 | liable | eek, been a while, didnt realise .19 was a stable kernel already.. |
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| 07:12.11 | liable | time to see if a two months between upgrades will break my xgl install |
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| 07:13.02 | simonrvn | xgl won't run here i don't think so i'm safe :P |
| 07:13.54 | liable | it prolly wont run here in a minute either :) |
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| 07:15.37 | simonrvn | old tnt2 card |
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| 07:16.24 | simonrvn | found a mobo made this century but it's finicky as fuck and doesn't boot properly half the time |
| 07:16.25 | liable | oh, ati is ati.amd.com now.. |
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| 07:16.44 | simonrvn | p3/1GHz thingy on it though, so i'm keeping that ;) |
| 07:16.52 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 07:17.19 | liable | i wanna get a new mobo too, so i can turn my home server into a tv box, its only micro atx so i gotta remove the sata pci card to fit a tv card |
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| 07:17.36 | simonrvn | tiny |
| 07:18.08 | simonrvn | 16" case, is that micro-atx, or is that normal? |
| 07:18.13 | simonrvn | tall i mean |
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| 07:19.28 | liable | dunno |
| 07:20.22 | liable | try and fit an atx board and if it doesnt fit.. :) |
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| 07:20.36 | simonrvn | hehe, well both these seem to fit, so |
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| 07:22.37 | Callahad | Hi. I've been happily using Exim4 for a few years, but would really like to transition away from it to a lighter MTA, as my needs are extremely basic (shunt outgoing mail to a smarthost with From: rewriting, handle local delivery of mail). Mail is introduced to the system by either /usr/sbin/sendmail, or fetchmail. I've kind of run up against a wall of mental fatigue; What software should I be looking at? |
| 07:23.34 | simonrvn | i'm using exim4 light, happy with it. and the heavy version on my mail server |
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| 07:24.54 | Callahad | simonrvn: I too am using and happy with exim4-light, just realizing that I have no need for the majority of its features, and it's an integral system component that's too large for me to fully understand at the moment. |
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| 07:25.54 | Callahad | simonrvn: So I'd like to replace it with something a bit more encapsulated / simple. Trying to be binge on information as to how GNU/Linux systems function at the lower levels, and Exim is just a bit too big of a bite for me right now :) |
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| 07:28.19 | protocol1 | I just installed a fresh copy of debian 4.0 how can I get my wireless detected/working? |
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| 07:38.26 | teledyn | protocol1: what kind of card is it? does it show up in ifconfig? |
| 07:38.43 | simonrvn | Callahad: nullmailer or any number of other mtas |
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| 07:39.20 | protocol1 | I type ifconfig in console and says command not found |
| 07:39.33 | simonrvn | it's in /sbin |
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| 07:40.20 | teledyn | protocol1: did it get configured when you ran the installation? |
| 07:40.27 | protocol1 | no |
| 07:40.38 | protocol1 | only my wired connetion |
| 07:40.44 | AM|R | :) |
| 07:40.51 | protocol1 | which is eth1 |
| 07:40.57 | teledyn | protocol1: it didn't find it or what? |
| 07:41.19 | protocol1 | it found another connection thats eth0 |
| 07:41.29 | protocol1 | but it considers it as wired |
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| 07:41.54 | wookienz | hi, i have a webserver behind a Linksys Wireless box, i have port forwarded the 80 port and the 21 port, of which the 21 port forward works fine. However peopoe cant get to the webserver. Would this be an apache problem or some sort of bind/dns issue on the webserver itself? |
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| 07:42.43 | teledyn | wookienz: you need to run tests |
| 07:43.34 | teledyn | wookienz: i'd start by monitoring the http port on the server with a tool like netcat and see if the traffic's getting to the box |
| 07:43.37 | protocol1 | teledyn, any suggestions? |
| 07:43.45 | teledyn | protocol1: what? |
| 07:43.58 | protocol1 | on how I can get my wireless working? |
| 07:44.11 | protocol1 | Im on a laptop |
| 07:44.11 | teledyn | protocol1: well i asked you questions |
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| 07:44.34 | protocol1 | it found eth0 and eth1 at install |
| 07:44.40 | diskus | protocol1: what kind of wireless card you have on the laptop? |
| 07:44.58 | protocol1 | Intel B/G 2200 |
| 07:45.31 | teledyn | protocol1: what does lspci report it as? |
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| 07:47.02 | protocol1 | teledyn, Intel Corporation PRO/WIreless 2200BG Network Connection |
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| 07:48.10 | teledyn | protocol1: we need to find out what chipset it uses. also, what is eth0 and eth1 if you only have one ethernet port? |
| 07:49.36 | diskus | some wireless modules use eth1 as wlan connection debice |
| 07:49.40 | diskus | device even |
| 07:50.25 | teledyn | protocol1: google intel 2200BG chipset and read about it. looks like some versions were prism, but newer ones aren't. |
| 07:50.54 | teledyn | yeah i have a prism card that registers as eth1 |
| 07:51.13 | teledyn | protocol1: look at the output of dmesg |grep eth |
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| 07:51.54 | liable | !find ipw3945d |
| 07:51.56 | dpkg | ipw3945d: (Binary userspace regulatory daemon for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG cards), section non-free/net, is extra. Version: 1.7.22-3 (sid), Packaged size: 36 kB, Installed size: 192 kB |
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| 07:54.27 | rem_ | .. |
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| 07:54.51 | liable | hrm , i wonder whether me renaming this iface is gonna cause me problems with that stupid daemon.. |
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| 07:59.15 | Callahad | Can someone give me (or point me to) an overview of Aptitude's auto/manual installation tracking? Is the data limited to aptitude, or has apt itself been enhanced? |
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| 08:06.15 | protocol1 | what are the commands to extract a .tgz file? |
| 08:06.28 | RvGaTe | Is there a complete guide on how to setup a LDAP environment ? client side and server side ? |
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| 08:07.02 | teledyn | RvGaTe: aren't there openldap howtos? |
| 08:07.25 | RvGaTe | teledyn, probably to many, maybe you guys know a good one to start with? |
| 08:07.28 | teledyn | protocol1: tar -xzvf <file> |
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| 08:07.51 | idleo | protocol1: tar -xvzf file.tgz |
| 08:07.57 | teledyn | RvGaTe: i don't know offhand, but google can find quite a few |
| 08:08.16 | teledyn | idleo: its xzvf NOT xvzf ! |
| 08:08.36 | teledyn | :-) |
| 08:08.46 | idleo | :) |
| 08:09.11 | RvGaTe | teledyn, i gues sill just start reading here: http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin23/preface.html |
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| 08:09.30 | teledyn | RvGaTe: i even think there are some debian-specific ldap setup guides |
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| 08:14.30 | EdLin | I'm having a problem with exim. It keeps sending out mail from me with my login name rather than my email (before the @) address. |
| 08:14.42 | EdLin | oh, I fixed that... wrong message |
| 08:14.57 | EdLin | I am having "frozen" email from exim. |
| 08:15.09 | EdLin | something's apparently wrong with SMTP-AUTH. |
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| 08:23.52 | ndowens | hey all |
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| 08:26.58 | netdaemon | i could give all you guys a hug ;_; |
| 08:27.12 | netdaemon | the first distro not to hard lock on this laptop in dayyyys ;_; |
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| 08:32.18 | ndowens | netdaemon: welcome to the bunch |
| 08:32.34 | netdaemon | =D |
| 08:32.40 | netdaemon | samba is a pita btw =\ |
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| 08:44.58 | teledyn-nite | EdLin: are you just trying to send mail out through a smarthost? |
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| 08:46.00 | teledyn-nite | EdLin: if you're only going through your ISP's mail server, you might want to ditch exim altogether and use something like nbsmtp |
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| 08:46.57 | Van-AFK | hi, i need a little help guys. i have grub and i boot in kernel 2.6 but i also have the kernel 2.4 installed |
| 08:47.05 | Van-AFK | i need the 2.4 boot by default how can i do it? |
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| 08:47.20 | Van-AFK | i need its on /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 08:47.28 | Vanno | i know* |
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| 08:47.52 | EdLin | teledyn-nite: does nbsmtp handle TLS and gmail's redirection? |
| 08:47.57 | E-bola | Do anybody know if there are any channels where you can ask about linuxHA and drbd? |
| 08:48.29 | mike-kayaker | Is releasing debian with atheros drivers against gpl? |
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| 08:49.18 | Kevin` | mike-kayaker no it shouldn't be, but it's against debian's practices |
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| 08:50.04 | mike-kayaker | Kevin`: I am trying to get a handle on the whole gpl gig |
| 08:50.12 | Vanno | someone can help me out? |
| 08:50.26 | mike-kayaker | Vanno: whats broken? |
| 08:50.40 | Vanno | its about grub. it boot in 2.6 by default |
| 08:50.44 | Vanno | i need to set it 2.4 by default.. |
| 08:50.54 | mike-kayaker | Sarge? |
| 08:50.57 | Vanno | yes |
| 08:51.09 | Vanno | its in /boot/grub/menu.lst right? somewhere |
| 08:51.28 | mike-kayaker | It is 2.4 by default |
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| 08:51.58 | Vanno | my grub boot in 26 by default |
| 08:52.03 | Vanno | i need to set it up to 2.4 |
| 08:52.05 | Vanno | i have 2 kernel installed |
| 08:52.33 | mike-kayaker | Vanno: Why do you need 2.4? |
| 08:52.41 | Vanno | actually bim in remote.. |
| 08:52.46 | Vanno | and i cnanot reboot in 2.4 |
| 08:52.50 | Vanno | i just installed by mistake the 2.6 |
| 08:53.04 | Vanno | and since im in sata disc |
| 08:53.07 | Vanno | 2.6 doesnt work for me |
| 08:53.33 | mike-kayaker | 2.6 is fine on sata |
| 08:53.53 | cydork | Vanno: /msg dpkg 2.4->2.6 |
| 08:53.53 | unlink | 2.6.19 rocks. |
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| 08:54.37 | Vanno | i do install 2.6 |
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| 08:54.40 | Vanno | but the reboot doesnt work.. |
| 08:54.48 | Vanno | i had to contact the administrator where my server is |
| 08:54.51 | Vanno | they reboot me back in 2.4 |
| 08:55.01 | Vanno | i have no idea by the way how does it happen |
| 08:55.21 | Vanno | i installed the 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 08:56.05 | cydork | !tell Vanno about 2.4->2.6 |
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| 08:56.22 | tarzeau | mike-kayaker: debian is about dfsg, not gpl |
| 08:56.57 | Vanno | wat does dpkg mean by saying: from memory, 2.4->2.6 is easy |
| 08:57.03 | Vanno | from memory? |
| 08:57.13 | cydork | Vanno: from his memory |
| 08:57.16 | cydork | :) |
| 08:57.19 | Vanno | XD |
| 08:57.28 | Vanno | well i apt-get install the 2.6 |
| 08:57.31 | Vanno | and it stuck in my reboot XD |
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| 08:57.49 | cydork | Vanno: did you read what dpkg said |
| 08:58.12 | Vanno | (linux-image in etch and sid, use your favorite apt front-end) and install the relevant package for your CPU(s). |
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| 08:58.27 | Vanno | actually i dont get it all :S |
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| 08:58.42 | mike-kayaker | tarzeau: all I know is that ones interpretation of progress is maybe not be leaving wifi support out when other distros are including codecs etc |
| 08:59.16 | Vanno | wat is etch |
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| 08:59.35 | cydork | Vanno: that's the current testing |
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| 08:59.44 | RvGaTe | !tell Vanno about etch |
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| 09:00.01 | cydork | Vanno: and while changing from 2.4 to 2.6 your sata devices will change from hda to sda |
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| 09:00.08 | mike-kayaker | Vanno: the next stable release "when it is released" |
| 09:00.41 | cydork | Vanno: so you have to make the necessary chages. |
| 09:00.42 | Vanno | actually what's better? kernel-image-2.6-686-smp or kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp |
| 09:00.42 | Vanno | oh ok ;p |
| 09:01.12 | mike-kayaker | the latter |
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| 09:01.22 | mike-kayaker | p4? |
| 09:01.27 | Vanno | actually if i do a apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp. and restart everything shoudl be fine? |
| 09:01.33 | Vanno | its dual xeon |
| 09:01.37 | unlink | 2.6.8? that's not a great kernel... |
| 09:01.42 | mike-kayaker | nice |
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| 09:02.03 | cydork | Vanno: no, did you read what i said? your devices will get renamed |
| 09:02.03 | Vanno | i got a DDOS attack today :/ |
| 09:02.12 | chronographer | hello |
| 09:02.21 | Vanno | cydark but what i have to do to fix it? |
| 09:02.45 | chronographer | I have a question for an expert... |
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| 09:03.36 | cydork | Vanno: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and your /etc/fstab |
| 09:03.38 | chronographer | I want to build a nice debian system from the ground up, and want to know if my wireless card will be easy to get running from the command line? |
| 09:03.52 | cydork | chronographer: which card? |
| 09:04.21 | chronographer | the card was easy to get going with ubuntu, i use an orinco card |
| 09:04.30 | chronographer | *orinoco |
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| 09:05.34 | cydork | chronographer: ubuntu and debian are not same, check out http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ to see how your card is supported |
| 09:06.03 | Vanno | nothing in menu.lst seem tohave hda. they actully use hdc3 |
| 09:06.06 | chronographer | I am running it now, but I want to make slim os... basically just want to play around and build my first debian but dont want to plug into ethernet... would like to do it all sitting on my couch =D |
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| 09:06.57 | cydork | Vanno: well i meant to say hd? to sd? :) |
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| 09:10.38 | Vanno | u think tat should work? |
| 09:11.16 | cydork | Vanno: yes |
| 09:11.19 | Vanno | i do same time for /etc/fstab ? |
| 09:11.30 | cydork | Vanno: yes |
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| 09:11.44 | chronographer | er... My Orinoco card is not there... I definately have a orinoco card so this means it prolly wont be supported eh. |
| 09:11.54 | centrx | Is xfonts-efont-unicode the standard? |
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| 09:12.29 | cydork | chronographer: i wont say that. |
| 09:12.42 | cydork | chronographer: google for it :) |
| 09:13.57 | cydork | chronographer: also if your are planning to use etch there is some kernel module for orinoco in 2.6.18 |
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| 09:22.19 | cydork | !qotd0 |
| 09:22.19 | dpkg | methinks qotd137 is <www> when i apt-get upgrade, my system wants to update a lot of packages <www> how to avoid that ? |
| 09:23.00 | Guerin | ... |
| 09:24.25 | cydork | ?? |
| 09:24.55 | ofer1 | !qotd135 |
| 09:24.55 | dpkg | < FieldySnuts> someone who realizes this may get them severely larted do this: -!- sgeigerbot [n=user@h216-170-007-123.adsl.navix.net] has joined #debian |
| 09:25.04 | ofer1 | !qotd132 |
| 09:25.04 | dpkg | < guruman> is there some way to make ls list all entries starting with a digit, i mean like 'ls [0-9]*' or similar instead of doing 'ls 1* && ls 2* ...' < furrywolf> guruman: ls [0-9]* :P < guruman> furrywolf it says "[0-9]" is not a directory or file ... < guruman> furrywolf ls [a-z]* seems to work but not 0-9 ... strange < guruman> furrywolf lol .. ofc it works its just me that doesnt have any files beginning with 0-9 in |
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| 09:30.22 | fireba11 | ouch |
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| 09:31.58 | chronographer | etch is ubuntu tho right. |
| 09:32.09 | cydork | chronographer: hell no.. |
| 09:32.20 | bobbyz | chronographer: it's edgy that's ubuntu |
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| 09:32.27 | chronographer | oh! |
| 09:32.32 | chronographer | yeh of course |
| 09:32.39 | chronographer | what is etch? |
| 09:33.09 | chronographer | excuse my limited experience |
| 09:34.08 | bobbyz | etch is debian |
| 09:34.24 | chronographer | debian 3.1? |
| 09:34.40 | mike-kayaker | chronographer: the next stable release etch=debian 4.o,released ,,January |
| 09:34.59 | mike-kayaker | 4.0 |
| 09:35.06 | chronographer | ok mebe i will wait for that! |
| 09:35.23 | mike-kayaker | I am using it now |
| 09:35.31 | ragnul | peterS: what have I done with me? |
| 09:35.38 | ragnul | !penixstrike peterS |
| 09:35.38 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking peterS to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 09:37.35 | Vanno | someone got any idea how to prevent ddos attack? |
| 09:37.38 | Vanno | i got a couple tonight |
| 09:37.54 | Vanno | and my webserver went down or lagging really hard |
| 09:37.57 | Kevin` | Vanno call your isp and report it, and don't provoke kiddies |
| 09:38.10 | Vanno | i need to prevent it.. |
| 09:38.16 | rahul | you can't |
| 09:38.22 | rahul | !penixstrike Vanno |
| 09:38.23 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Vanno to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 09:38.23 | chronographer | oh right. is there a convenient iso somewhere? when i installed debian last it was all command line... my first experience with linux was short... soon migrated to the easy linux (ubuntu). Now I want to play a bit and configure myself, so would like debian... What do you recommend as a relativelly easy way to build debian? |
| 09:38.36 | Vanno | calling isp is a noob solution :/ |
| 09:38.39 | mike-kayaker | chronographer: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
| 09:38.43 | rahul | no it's not |
| 09:38.57 | rahul | Vanno: your isp is what gives you bandwith |
| 09:39.11 | chronographer | thx |
| 09:39.30 | Kevin` | if they are using all your bandwidth there's nothing you can do locally to stop it |
| 09:39.37 | rahul | why would you build debian? |
| 09:40.20 | Vanno | doesnt it exist a program tat detect flooding port? |
| 09:40.20 | Vanno | or something like tat |
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| 09:40.20 | Vanno | from like the same ip or something.. |
| 09:40.20 | Kevin` | sure you can detect it. |
| 09:40.21 | Kevin` | but then what |
| 09:40.21 | rahul | Vanno: and theen what? |
| 09:40.24 | Vanno | how to detect it? |
| 09:40.26 | rahul | exacly |
| 09:40.30 | Vanno | well i can put a iptable on it lol |
| 09:40.38 | Kevin` | the traffic would still reach you |
| 09:40.47 | bobbyz | Vanno: if the attacks are eating your bandwidth, then it won't matter |
| 09:40.47 | Vanno | how todetect it? |
| 09:40.53 | Kevin` | even if you send no response they can clog your connection |
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| 09:41.12 | Vanno | well i dont care much since i need to know where do it come from :/ |
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| 09:41.13 | Kevin` | if they are not clogging the connection but instead just overtaxing a daemon, you could stop it |
| 09:41.18 | Vanno | and since i have unlmited bandwith |
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| 09:41.34 | Kevin` | unlimited bandwidth? from who |
| 09:41.43 | mike-kayaker | Vanno: net install |
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| 09:41.54 | Vanno | my isp...? |
| 09:41.55 | mike-kayaker | high speed? |
| 09:41.58 | rahul | now that;'s un,limited |
| 09:42.12 | bobbyz | oi |
| 09:42.15 | Vanno | net install? |
| 09:42.20 | Kevin` | Vanno I doubt you have unlimited bandwidth (partnership) with an isp, and don't know how to detect a DOS attack |
| 09:42.22 | Kevin` | try again? :) |
| 09:43.14 | bakfupai | You guys also got some guy who tried to DCC send a file to you yesterday? |
| 09:43.31 | rahul | bakfupai: that gay something or another? |
| 09:43.39 | Kevin` | omg someone DID send me a file yesterday? |
| 09:43.47 | Kevin` | how.. normal? |
| 09:43.49 | bakfupai | withyeah |
| 09:43.52 | bakfupai | *yeah |
| 09:43.52 | rahul | heh |
| 09:44.03 | rahul | I don'tr camre |
| 09:44.06 | bobbyz | that person was k-lined |
| 09:44.23 | Vanno | Kevin`: my isp give unlimited bandwitch |
| 09:44.41 | Vanno | Kevin`: does it exist a program to detect spamming or such stuff ? |
| 09:44.41 | rahul | Vanno: unimited! |
| 09:44.42 | Kevin` | Vanno unlimited bandwidth does not exist. |
| 09:44.51 | Kevin` | Vanno what type of connection do you have to your isp |
| 09:44.57 | Vanno | Kevin`: hmmm... ASDL |
| 09:45.02 | bobbyz | Vanno: I think you're confusing *not being charged for bandwidth use* and *unlimited bandwidth stream* |
| 09:45.08 | Vanno | OH oops |
| 09:45.10 | Vanno | u right |
| 09:45.16 | Vanno | sorry |
| 09:45.16 | Kevin` | adsl can only go up to.. 10mbps absolute maximum that i've never seen |
| 09:45.28 | Kevin` | probably less then that |
| 09:45.30 | rahul | oooooo oh oooooh ohho ooohhh |
| 09:45.33 | Vanno | sorry i was confusing with unlimited bandwitch and unmetered |
| 09:45.36 | Grub_Now | hi rahul |
| 09:45.41 | chronographer | !penixstrike rahul |
| 09:45.41 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking rahul to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 09:45.49 | rahul | !!! |
| 09:45.49 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 09:45.55 | Kevin` | if you had metered bandwidth you would be truely screwed, Vanno :) |
| 09:45.57 | Grub_Now | lies |
| 09:46.00 | mike-kayaker | hehe |
| 09:46.02 | rahul | comalies |
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| 09:46.16 | Grub_Now | a subir! |
| 09:46.23 | bobbyz | Vanno: now what they said before is about all you can do. Contact your isp |
| 09:46.26 | rahul | a comalie |
| 09:46.42 | Vanno | but does it any other way..? |
| 09:46.46 | rahul | no |
| 09:46.49 | Kevin` | Vanno if all the attack is doing is overusing a certain service on your computer, you can block it with iptables |
| 09:46.50 | Vanno | i have 100mbit line now. so connection bandwithc doesnt matter to me |
| 09:46.53 | rahul | Vanno: bw ist bw |
| 09:47.00 | Vanno | kevin.. but how to detect it? |
| 09:47.03 | rahul | then don't bitch about be |
| 09:47.05 | rahul | bw |
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| 09:47.06 | Kevin` | if it's flooding your connection, the block must be done from your isp |
| 09:47.17 | rahul | circle of regreeeeeeet |
| 09:47.27 | Kevin` | Vanno the terminal version of wireshark I find useful |
| 09:47.28 | Vanno | kevin i know.. but i want first to know if im getting attack by ddos or not.. before contacting isp |
| 09:47.34 | rahul | bbiab, poss and brish adnwhit |
| 09:47.53 | Vanno | the hacker talked to me right now on the other chat.. |
| 09:47.54 | Kevin` | Vanno or if it's a specific service like a web server, check it's logs |
| 09:48.01 | Grub_Now | wtf hacker! |
| 09:48.03 | Grub_Now | lolz |
| 09:48.07 | bobbyz | Vanno: then you should check your logs, check your packet trans/recv stats, etc. |
| 09:48.08 | Vanno | and he is using a russian rpogram tat flood the opened port lol |
| 09:48.10 | rahul | haz0rx |
| 09:48.21 | Grub_Now | then hes not a hacker |
| 09:48.24 | bobbyz | oh god |
| 09:48.25 | Grub_Now | hes just a script kiddie |
| 09:48.31 | Grub_Now | :P |
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| 09:48.36 | Kevin` | Vanno ya a real hacker would have written that program :) |
| 09:48.36 | rahul | yo mama hax me |
| 09:48.42 | Grub_Now | ok, why the heck is he telling you what hes doing? |
| 09:48.52 | Kevin` | and a web server that can wistand it |
| 09:48.53 | Kevin` | Oh |
| 09:48.55 | Kevin` | Vanno |
| 09:49.00 | Kevin` | look up tcp syncookies |
| 09:49.01 | Kevin` | :) |
| 09:49.04 | xingu | Grub_Now: cause he's an eeny weeny teeny tiny short short man |
| 09:49.07 | Kevin` | I should have thought of that sooner |
| 09:49.17 | rahul | hrm |
| 09:49.19 | rahul | oww |
| 09:49.21 | Grub_Now | i thought so |
| 09:49.25 | rahul | jhhh |
| 09:49.32 | Vanno | so how can i found out his ip? |
| 09:49.33 | rahul | !!!!!!!! |
| 09:49.37 | Vanno | where to chekc the ip logs? |
| 09:49.46 | Grub_Now | logz |
| 09:49.47 | Vanno | i have like 100,000 connection every hour.. |
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| 09:49.51 | yos87 | Hi |
| 09:49.51 | Vanno | how can i find out his lil attack.. |
| 09:49.52 | Kevin` | Vanno look at the web server logs or a packet dump from when it was happening |
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| 09:50.07 | codester | can some one please tell me what i am doing wrong with my wireless configuration? its driving me crazy =(, i think i have all the nescessary modules compiled right, but each time i use iwpriv or start /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 it always give me "wlan0 does not support the following private ioctls set AuthMode=WPAPSK" |
| 09:50.15 | Kevin` | Vanno look up tcp syn cookies though, it's a generic way to protect against this type of attack |
| 09:50.16 | yos87 | How to change the screen reselution from in the text mode? |
| 09:50.28 | warsoar | chronographer: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
| 09:50.56 | chronographer | that sounds good! |
| 09:50.58 | chronographer | thx |
| 09:51.01 | rahul | Ill who uou cookeius |
| 09:51.07 | Vanno | Kevin`: its not a webserver. its a web service which run on port 6800 |
| 09:51.13 | Vanno | Kevin`: it doesnt contain any log :/ |
| 09:51.18 | Grub_Now | lolz |
| 09:51.26 | Kevin` | Vanno then use a packet dump |
| 09:51.33 | Grub_Now | take it down then, it doesnt qulaify as a service |
| 09:51.38 | Kevin` | it should only take a second of watching it to see what the source is |
| 09:51.41 | Kevin` | then firewall it |
| 09:51.46 | Kevin` | and go read about syn cookies |
| 09:51.48 | rahul | fireall! |
| 09:51.56 | Grub_Now | zomg |
| 09:52.00 | rahul | !!! |
| 09:52.01 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 09:52.07 | rahul | hehr dpjg |
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| 09:52.11 | yos87 | How to change the screen reselution from in the text mode? |
| 09:52.11 | chronographer | I am looking at the weekly builds, if wanted to dl only 1 cd (there are 21 of them) can I dl the first and run a basic system off that? |
| 09:52.17 | Grub_Now | rahul: dont irc when drunk |
| 09:52.20 | Grub_Now | *nods* |
| 09:52.20 | cydork | what it's sunday already? :P |
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| 09:52.24 | Grub_Now | not yet |
| 09:52.25 | rahul | I amthie irc rung] |
| 09:52.27 | rahul | f;llkvds |
| 09:52.27 | Grub_Now | cydork: !!! |
| 09:52.32 | rahul | heh |
| 09:52.42 | Kevin` | chronographer any reason your not doing a net install? |
| 09:52.45 | rahul | chronographer: I suggest not getting any pavkages |
| 09:52.57 | rahul | is all about the denb src |
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| 09:53.19 | chronographer | I want net install, just want to make sure I can get wireless card working without too much hassel... |
| 09:53.26 | rahul | justto blameeeee!!~! i'm no morerhal giiift |
| 09:53.30 | Vanno | Kevin`: do u mean tcgdump? |
| 09:53.34 | Kevin` | which chipset and bus, chronographer |
| 09:53.37 | Kevin` | Vanno that would work |
| 09:53.37 | Vanno | i mean dhcpdump |
| 09:53.42 | Kevin` | erm |
| 09:53.44 | Kevin` | not dhcp |
| 09:53.47 | Vanno | oops |
| 09:53.49 | Vanno | ok.. |
| 09:53.51 | rahul | eh? |
| 09:53.52 | chronographer | er... no idea! D: |
| 09:53.55 | Vanno | tcpdump shoudl work then? |
| 09:53.58 | rahul | CrazednDazed: ME TOOO! |
| 09:54.02 | rahul | um |
| 09:54.04 | rahul | chronographer: |
| 09:54.10 | chronographer | no rahul |
| 09:54.15 | rahul | heh |
| 09:54.16 | Kevin` | chronographer that's the first thing you must know. by bus I mean cardbus, pci, pcmcia, usb, etc |
| 09:54.16 | dimir | Moin! |
| 09:54.17 | rahul | yes me |
| 09:54.19 | chronographer | watch out or i penix you agen |
| 09:54.23 | bobbyz | !chaos |
| 09:54.24 | dpkg | chaos is, like, the master of reality |
| 09:54.26 | rahul | hehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 09:54.33 | rahul | !penixstrike chronographer |
| 09:54.33 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking chronographer to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 09:54.37 | rahul | oooooh yeah |
| 09:54.40 | chronographer | ok. |
| 09:54.44 | rahul | the ont thing I can do durunk |
| 09:54.46 | bobbyz | ok, there needs to be a better !chaos entry than that |
| 09:55.12 | chronographer | I am running ubuntu on it now, but I am pretty unknowlegeable when it comes to hardware... |
| 09:55.22 | cydork | bobbyz: well chaos is like a ubuntu irc channel :) |
| 09:55.26 | chronographer | I hoped debian would also do a few things for me.. |
| 09:55.28 | rahul | ubyndu is there ----------9^>.. |
| 09:55.30 | bobbyz | cy |
| 09:55.34 | Kevin` | chronographer if I was to do this install today, I would probably use cdebootstrap to do the minimal debian install, put the wireless driver in, and reboot to it |
| 09:55.35 | bobbyz | cydork: true enough |
| 09:55.45 | Kevin` | chronographer check lspci please |
| 09:55.54 | Kevin` | chronographer you probably don't want to do my method, btw :) |
| 09:56.17 | Grub_Now | hmm |
| 09:56.24 | chronographer | what and where do you want lspci? |
| 09:56.32 | rahul | no I won't delay / no I won't delay |
| 09:56.33 | Kevin` | chronographer the line that represents the wireless card |
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| 09:56.40 | Kevin` | just the name shown really. |
| 09:56.46 | rahul | time is like an eye for me ./ I justnwon't delay |
| 09:56.51 | Grub_Now | wtf is this |
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| 09:57.23 | Kevin` | rahul what are you on :) |
| 09:57.34 | rahul | hehe |
| 09:57.39 | rahul | just alkey |
| 09:57.40 | dm | Hello. What is _the_ tool to compare two directories and show new(er) or missing files? |
| 09:57.42 | Grub_Now | beer |
| 09:57.48 | rahul | no beer |
| 09:57.54 | rahul | oh I had some original sin\ |
| 09:58.01 | rahul | that's a cider |
| 09:58.13 | Vanno | does it have a program tat make stats and report for tcpdump? |
| 09:58.15 | rahul | dm: diff -U or whatever eles |
| 09:58.16 | bobbyz | rahul: any vodka tonight? That's the way to drink! ;) |
| 09:58.24 | rahul | no I driunk whiskey |
| 09:58.27 | chronographer | kevin: I dont see my card there... |
| 09:58.28 | rahul | wild rikey |
| 09:58.36 | Kevin` | chronographer what type of card is it |
| 09:58.40 | rahul | I had vokda last saturnday when it was open bar |
| 09:59.11 | chronographer | orinoco |
| 09:59.16 | rahul | well qwhiskey is reallt a bad idea |
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| 09:59.22 | bobbyz | mmm....open bar is a beautiful thing |
| 09:59.24 | Kevin` | chronographer pcmcia? |
| 09:59.24 | rahul | I had 3 vodka tomics |
| 09:59.28 | chronographer | yeh |
| 09:59.30 | rahul | bobbyz: ytou're telling me |
| 09:59.46 | rahul | bobbyz: damn chicks who wanted me got distracted tho |
| 09:59.55 | Kevin` | chronographer cardctl ident would tell you then, but why didn't you just say orinoco/pcmcia when I asked for the chipset and bus? :) |
| 09:59.57 | rahul | eliza's dummer broke his finger |
| 10:00.07 | rahul | chukers is a good guy tho |
| 10:00.16 | chronographer | oh right, the wireless chipset! |
| 10:00.23 | bobbyz | rahul: you realize I have no idea who you're talking about, right? :) |
| 10:00.30 | rahul | yeah |
| 10:00.32 | rahul | she's hot tho |
| 10:00.43 | chronographer | shush rahul |
| 10:00.44 | Kevin` | chronographer it's not prism2/2.5, right? |
| 10:00.45 | rahul | look up devola's video of love and war on youtume |
| 10:00.49 | chronographer | go to #ubuntu! |
| 10:00.52 | Kevin` | (would work with the orinoco driver but non-ideal) |
| 10:00.58 | rahul | !~1!!! oh not |
| 10:01.01 | chronographer | i don't think so. |
| 10:01.11 | rahul | debian 4eger |
| 10:01.35 | chronographer | i using orinoco drivers... didn't read the sticker before i put it in and now its below my keyboard! |
| 10:01.42 | Kevin` | well, i'm not really sure what wireless chipsets the current debian install cd will detect, it's been a long time since i've used it :) |
| 10:02.04 | rahul | hrm |
| 10:02.10 | Kevin` | someone else here know? |
| 10:02.14 | rahul | nbeter get some vitraming water revive |
| 10:02.30 | js_ | which mailing list should i attack for hardware related questions? |
| 10:02.39 | chronographer | i was told debian 4.0 does recognise orinoco |
| 10:02.51 | chronographer | up a few pages |
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| 10:02.55 | rahul | hly shit |
| 10:02.56 | Kevin` | you should definitely install etch yes |
| 10:03.02 | rahul | it's5 cockloc |
| 10:03.20 | Kevin` | it's only 4:00 silly |
| 10:03.31 | rahul | damn cster |
| 10:03.59 | rahul | ving |
| 10:04.07 | chronographer | on the cdimage.debian ... i386 page there is listed a xfce iso, if I dl this and boot with it it will install a basic xfce system? |
| 10:04.20 | chronographer | its 9.pm here |
| 10:04.29 | rahul | chronographer: why do you want whole cds of oakcages? |
| 10:04.46 | chronographer | er... it seems the easiest way? |
| 10:04.59 | rahul | i'm the only survigeork in this land |
| 10:05.05 | rahul | chronographer: justr get one cd |
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| 10:05.12 | Kevin` | i think the easiest way would be to install from a tar file, personally :) |
| 10:05.14 | rahul | I don't even get a single cd |
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| 10:05.18 | rahul | ! |
| 10:05.45 | ^rob^ | hello |
| 10:05.47 | Kevin` | chronographer a while ago you asked if you could just get one cd and install. you can, the packages are layed out in order of likely use on the cds |
| 10:05.49 | Grub_Now | hi |
| 10:05.57 | rahul | Grub_Now: HELLO |
| 10:06.05 | ^rob^ | how can i tell dhcpclient to ignore eth0? |
| 10:06.05 | chronographer | You see i am new to all of this so a tar file i can extract, but I don't know what to do with it |
| 10:06.06 | Grub_Now | rahul: no go to slee[ |
| 10:06.09 | rahul | im' the only survifror in this lalllladen |
| 10:06.12 | rahul | hehe |
| 10:06.37 | Kevin` | chronographer I don't think debian has install media for that particular useful method :) |
| 10:06.38 | rahul | rob: what do you want it to do? |
| 10:06.47 | rahul | rob: eth1? |
| 10:06.50 | chronographer | ok, so mebe i will get the first iso and go from there. |
| 10:06.55 | rahul | rob: man interfaaces |
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| 10:07.02 | ^rob^ | i use ra0 wiht dhcp but after get the ip - it tryes to do dhcp on eth0 - even if i toud in interfaces that eth0 is static |
| 10:07.20 | chronographer | It will boot to a nice command line right? |
| 10:07.21 | rahul | i'm theonly suriviror in this lalllaaaaaand |
| 10:07.25 | chronographer | (after install) |
| 10:07.27 | ^rob^ | rahul: ra0 to be the only one with dhcp - but ra0 use wpa_supplicant |
| 10:07.33 | Kevin` | chronographer unless you install a gui |
| 10:07.48 | chronographer | will i havea choice for a gui? |
| 10:07.51 | rahul | rob: config the ones using staic ip and dhcp with the interfaces file |
| 10:07.57 | rahul | chronographer: instlal what you want |
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| 10:08.00 | Kevin` | yes, but I recommend you just do the minimal install |
| 10:08.02 | liable | how much MB you reckon irssi would use in a day?? |
| 10:08.04 | chronographer | yes |
| 10:08.06 | Kevin` | install that other stuff later when it's running |
| 10:08.11 | rahul | liable: less than 1 |
| 10:08.22 | chronographer | then if my wireless card is working i can jump on net and apt-get |
| 10:08.23 | liable | rahul: in #debian? |
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| 10:08.42 | chronographer | minimal will have gui? |
| 10:08.48 | Kevin` | it will not |
| 10:08.52 | rahul | liable: we all use it for motntrhs |
| 10:08.53 | chronographer | i thought so |
| 10:08.54 | rahul | at least |
| 10:09.04 | rahul | chronographer: choose packages takss whatever |
| 10:09.24 | Techdeck | Hey guys, I've installed debian stable and dist-upgraded to testing, it seems when I use tab completion instead of for instance completing to: /usr/local/test it completes to /us/rloca/ltest (or something similiar) |
| 10:09.28 | Techdeck | any ideas why is this happening? |
| 10:09.29 | ^rob^ | iface eth0 inet static ... iface ra0 inet manual ... wpa_supplicant.conf has id_str="atlas" .... iface atlas inet dhcp << use dhcp after wpa_suplicant authenticate |
| 10:09.45 | chronographer | yes, good, will wireless and if all else fails, ethernet be easy to set up from command point? |
| 10:09.51 | liable | rahul: i am just tossing up whether to sign up for a wireless hotspot thing, 99MB for 14.95 (au) and how long it'll prolly last |
| 10:09.57 | ^rob^ | but i still see that after i get ra0 ip - dhclient try to get ip address for eth0 |
| 10:10.06 | Kevin` | chronographer iwconfig and ifconfig, if you know how to use those |
| 10:10.07 | bobbyz | chronographer: it will surely be easier than wireless |
| 10:10.09 | rahul | liable: whas that have to do with irssi |
| 10:10.17 | rahul | damn crazy foos |
| 10:10.20 | rahul | zoof, too |
| 10:10.23 | Kevin` | chronographer hopefully the install will include iwconfig, if not you need to install wireless-tools |
| 10:10.24 | rahul | !zoof |
| 10:10.24 | dpkg | not zoof. fooz. |
| 10:10.29 | chronographer | yep |
| 10:10.32 | rahul | essacly |
| 10:10.34 | liable | rahul: i was talking about usage, not mem... |
| 10:10.50 | rahul | liable: irssi works for many of us |
| 10:10.52 | rahul | many many |
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| 10:11.01 | liable | rahul: no shit.. |
| 10:11.03 | Kevin` | chronographer default network configuration uses dhcp on the ethernet interfaces, I believe |
| 10:11.09 | rahul | liable: so what you want? |
| 10:11.32 | ^rob^ | so - is there any method to tell dhcpclient.conf to ignore eth0 ? |
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| 10:11.38 | ^rob^ | or something messed up |
| 10:11.41 | chronographer | thats fine |
| 10:11.41 | liable | rahul: nm |
| 10:11.42 | Grub_Now | rahuls suuush |
| 10:11.50 | chronographer | my router is great with dhcp |
| 10:11.54 | ^rob^ | it did not did that after install - it does after update |
| 10:11.58 | rahul | rob: just tell the right ifaces in the config to use dhcp |
| 10:12.00 | Techdeck | anyone? |
| 10:12.05 | chronographer | I just would really love it if wireless worked! |
| 10:12.10 | ^rob^ | rahul i did. |
| 10:12.20 | rahul | hold on |
| 10:12.25 | Kevin` | it shouldn't be too hard to get to work, even if the driver isn't included by default |
| 10:12.26 | rahul | whole lotta love is playing |
| 10:12.30 | Joenin | don't know |
| 10:12.36 | ^rob^ | rahul -- shoould i post my interfaces somewhere? |
| 10:12.45 | liable | ^rob^: cant paste your wpasupp conf? |
| 10:12.47 | rahul | sure, but I won't look :) |
| 10:12.54 | bobbyz | chronographer: if you can get an ethernet connection up with your install, the you can get wireless working one way or another just by installing the necessary packages |
| 10:13.09 | ^rob^ | liable - shure i can.. - where? |
| 10:13.12 | liable | ^rob^: #flood will do |
| 10:13.22 | bobbyz | if you have it working on one linux distro, you can get it working on another |
| 10:13.41 | rahul | wow. my girls were crazy tonight |
| 10:13.44 | chronographer | ok cool |
| 10:13.53 | rahul | ah well. women will be wimtn |
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| 10:14.11 | ^rob^ | who's responsable about wpa script? |
| 10:14.22 | Kevin` | wpa script? |
| 10:14.31 | bobbyz | and since ubuntu is loosely based off of debian, you'll find the process somewhat similar to your ubuntu install |
| 10:14.39 | ^rob^ | i found some problems - when wpa-eap + mschapv2 |
| 10:14.43 | chronographer | so i should do a minimal install, then try for wireless, if that fails go ethernet and then go wireless then gui etc. |
| 10:14.44 | Doat | does Beryl work with fglrx? |
| 10:14.47 | Vanno | kevin u sitll there? |
| 10:14.52 | Kevin` | yes I am |
| 10:14.53 | Vanno | mytcpdump detect to much packet |
| 10:14.58 | Vanno | i cannot find out which is the hacker one.. |
| 10:15.01 | ^rob^ | Kevin`: wpa on debian network configure |
| 10:15.01 | chronographer | yeah i understand ubuntu is nearly debian |
| 10:15.08 | ^rob^ | Kevin`: ifup |
| 10:15.14 | liable | ^rob^: kel modderman looks after wpa |
| 10:15.35 | liable | ^rob^: i have found it really quite good in the last 6 months.. |
| 10:15.51 | Kevin` | ^rob^ i've only myself used 802.1x (wep with eap auth), and wpa-psk, never wpa with eap |
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| 10:15.59 | bobbyz | chronographer: order doesn't matter a whole lot. As long as you have *some* sort of internet connection active from the installer, you can pick whatever you want to install and then configure things |
| 10:16.20 | bobbyz | chronographer: you can always go back later and install/uninstall/reconfigure whatever you want |
| 10:16.22 | liable | ^rob^: try #madwifi, he is quite often there (if you think you have a genuine bug) |
| 10:16.25 | ^rob^ | liable: ok - do you use WPA-EAP and phase2 auth=MSCHAPV2 ??? |
| 10:16.26 | Kevin` | ^rob^ however, wpa_supplicant handles this sort of thing. |
| 10:16.47 | liable | ^rob^: no, i dont |
| 10:16.49 | ^rob^ | Kevin`: i use ralink driver and a patched wpa with ralink suport |
| 10:16.55 | chronographer | ok i got a plan now thanks all for your help! |
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| 10:17.05 | Kevin` | oh the ralink driver does it's own thing |
| 10:17.09 | ^rob^ | i have even made a pathc to apply on wpa_supplicant source |
| 10:17.16 | Kevin` | I couldn't get it to work last I tried, but that was only for a few minutes |
| 10:17.17 | bobbyz | chronographer: good luck, have fun |
| 10:17.18 | ^rob^ | to support ralink directly |
| 10:17.38 | Vanno | kevin? |
| 10:17.40 | ^rob^ | Kevin`: i am with it right now. |
| 10:17.42 | chronographer | I think i will be too busy over christmas to do much tho.. there will prolly be a better version on the debian site in a week or two right? |
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| 10:18.06 | chronographer | I will give it a go then, merry christmas all, see you round |
| 10:18.07 | Kevin` | Vanno look at what the majority of the packets are |
| 10:18.17 | chronographer | go to bed rahul |
| 10:18.22 | bobbyz | chronographer: debian is pretty fluid...you can upgrade to newer releases when they come out |
| 10:18.23 | liable | wtf arent i getting a config.h from a make-kpkg kernel?? |
| 10:18.32 | Kevin` | it should be rather obvious if one or two hosts are doing a lot of the same thing to your computer |
| 10:18.33 | ^rob^ | Kevin`: using ralink rt61 driver from ralink not from rt2x00 |
| 10:18.38 | rahul | I'm about to |
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| 10:18.42 | rahul | ow |
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| 10:19.07 | rahul | no I didn't duck yoyu |
| 10:19.13 | Grub_Now | lies |
| 10:19.15 | Grub_Now | go sleep |
| 10:19.17 | bobbyz | chronographer: you might as well install whatever you wish right now and get it configured however you like. You can then upgrade as new releases come out |
| 10:19.22 | rahul | heh |
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| 10:19.35 | ^rob^ | well - i am out/ |
| 10:19.38 | ^rob^ | bye |
| 10:19.40 | rahul | ok, I'll go find some chicks to play with |
| 10:19.42 | Kevin` | a new release after etch will probably be long enough coming out that that won't matter much :) |
| 10:20.05 | ^rob^ | i did a big nothing asking you - but it was nice talking with you ppl |
| 10:20.08 | ^rob^ | bye |
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| 10:20.31 | liable | !ping |
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| 10:20.31 | dpkg | pong |
| 10:20.36 | Kevin` | !pong |
| 10:20.37 | dpkg | somebody said pong was the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong, or *the* classic video game |
| 10:20.42 | Coweater | how do you mass rename files of the format "multiple words - year" to "multiple words (year)" do i need to script this and save the year in a variable, or is there some other utility i can use? |
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| 10:21.10 | Kevin` | does "year" change? |
| 10:21.12 | l3mr | Coweater: mmv |
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| 10:21.45 | raz0 | Coweater, I'd guess awk. |
| 10:21.57 | utrrrongeeb | My system crashes when I run certain screensavers in the xscreensaver package, especially one called Noof. I'm wondering whether anyone knows more about this phenomenon. The Magic SysRQ keys still work, though. |
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| 10:22.57 | bobbyz | Coweater: something along the lines of: 'for file in *; do mv ${file} ${file/\- 1999/\(1999\)/}; done' |
| 10:23.43 | Kevin` | if you have the proper "rename" command, you can just do this: rename 1999 '(1999)' * |
| 10:24.05 | Coweater | it's not a fixed year though |
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| 10:24.20 | Kevin` | which is why I asked that :) |
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| 10:24.43 | Kevin` | it's more difficult then, possible if you find someone good with regular expressions |
| 10:24.53 | Kevin` | or just go through all the years |
| 10:25.15 | bobbyz | Coweater: you can pound out a perl script for that if you know perl |
| 10:25.31 | l3mr | Coweater: if the names are like "something-1999' then just use mmv. mmv '*-*' '#2-#1' |
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| 10:26.29 | Coweater | i don't have root on this machine, i guess i'll hold off on that till tomorrow when he wakes up |
| 10:26.39 | Coweater | thanks |
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| 10:27.20 | liable | wtf? no more config.h in 2.6.19? |
| 10:28.35 | ofer1 | Coweater, ls | perl -ne '/^(.+)\s-\s(\d+)$/ && rename($_,"$1 ($2)")' |
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| 10:29.05 | ofer1 | Coweater, use it at your own risk |
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| 10:30.47 | yos87 | Hi |
| 10:31.08 | yos87 | Please somebody know how to change the screen reselution in the text mode? |
| 10:32.06 | eap | yos87: depends on the framebuffer your console supports |
| 10:34.20 | rahul | thatks goodless |
| 10:34.28 | rahul | a decent rush sng |
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| 10:35.46 | rahul | next one's not abot an alien cockatoo incation |
| 10:35.54 | rahul | it's about somethin TOTALLY DIFFERENT!~ |
| 10:35.59 | mcfloppy_ | hello |
| 10:36.06 | rahul | mcfloppy_: VAIN |
| 10:36.08 | rahul | GLORY |
| 10:36.10 | rahul | OPERA |
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| 10:38.02 | rahul | it's all the cockatoo's fauth |
| 10:38.20 | rahul | ok I'm wayt roo runk |
| 10:38.23 | rahul | night |
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| 10:38.29 | yos87 | eap: can you help with that? |
| 10:38.29 | rahul | !penixstrike |
| 10:38.30 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking rahul to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 10:39.28 | rahul | DRUNKEN_IRONY |
| 10:39.32 | rahul | that's me :) |
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| 10:39.58 | rahul | video=radeonfb:800x600-32@75 |
| 10:40.10 | rahul | yos87: ^ |
| 10:40.19 | Ronin | good lord another one too drunk to be on |
| 10:40.37 | rahul | we live to firht the hand og doom we've got the pride to strke a fgool |
| 10:40.49 | eap | yos87: what display card? |
| 10:40.50 | rahul | 9~HEY |
| 10:40.54 | rahul | I'm jhelping people |
| 10:41.00 | yos87 | rahul: I did , nothing happened |
| 10:41.02 | rahul | and mosthing inyto Ronin at the sam time |
| 10:41.14 | rahul | yos87: where'd you putit? |
| 10:41.36 | yos87 | eap: I don't know |
| 10:41.42 | rahul | bah |
| 10:41.51 | rahul | yos87: be seriuous |
| 10:41.52 | yos87 | rahul: in the text mode |
| 10:41.56 | rahul | wtf |
| 10:42.00 | yos87 | rahul: i'm serious |
| 10:42.00 | eap | rahul: yos87:) then it is VERY hard for me to help you :) |
| 10:42.08 | rahul | eap: indeed :) |
| 10:42.10 | yos87 | rahul: i guess something like versa |
| 10:42.15 | rahul | versa? |
| 10:42.17 | rahul | heh |
| 10:42.18 | nayyare-off | when i give this command after installing mysql4 from source "/usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql & " gives me error " Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid 061221 12:36:11 mysqld ended " |
| 10:42.28 | eap | yos87: what platform? |
| 10:42.51 | rahul | nayyare-off: thisnis #debian |
| 10:42.54 | rahul | not #source |
| 10:43.04 | rahul | nayyare-off: if you want help with debian packages you're in the rightrplace |
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| 10:43.05 | eap | yos87: what you want depends on your display card, framebuffer |
| 10:43.14 | yos87 | eap: debian r0a |
| 10:43.20 | rahul | nayyare-off: if you don't want to use debian try #mysql |
| 10:43.24 | eap | yos87: i386 ? |
| 10:43.28 | yos87 | yes |
| 10:43.31 | yos87 | i386 |
| 10:43.33 | rahul | r0a? |
| 10:43.38 | yos87 | yes |
| 10:43.39 | rahul | !r0a |
| 10:43.44 | yos87 | sorry |
| 10:43.56 | rahul | yes, sorry |
| 10:44.02 | rahul | me shrugs |
| 10:44.14 | rahul | nightpeeps |
| 10:44.33 | eap | yos87: lspci -v and see which display card |
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| 10:44.59 | yos87 | it show me the erhernet controller |
| 10:45.03 | yos87 | not the display card |
| 10:45.31 | rahul | vesa local bus baby |
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| 10:45.37 | rahul | obiously |
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| 10:45.49 | rahul | yos87: you don't have a pci or agp vard? |
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| 10:46.50 | eap | yos87: w/o pci or agp... what else.. :) isa , nah cant be.. could it? |
| 10:47.17 | rahul | eap: vlb |
| 10:47.31 | eap | ah.. |
| 10:48.14 | eap | yos87: i think your best bet is 'trial 'n error',chances are you might not go very much beyond 800x600, i think |
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| 10:48.40 | eap | yos87: vga=0x314 @ the kernel command line |
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| 10:49.16 | yos87 | eap: sorry , I'm install gdm now, I'll do all that after I finish |
| 10:49.22 | eggleston | does anyone know if it's possible to open .LIT files in linux? |
| 10:49.24 | yos87 | eap: i'm i'm recently formatting this bad hp laptop |
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| 10:49.33 | rahul | I'm the devil's mistress. follow me and I'll make everything right |
| 10:49.46 | craigevil | "fix-res" is as root,do: fix-res 1280x1024 [or whatever];restart x after |
| 10:49.58 | craigevil | .lit as in MS reader? |
| 10:50.20 | eap | rahul: hmm you seem to be in a very 'good' mood :) |
| 10:50.26 | rahul | heh |
| 10:50.29 | rahul | warmen rule |
| 10:50.42 | eap | rahul: couldnt agree more :) |
| 10:51.46 | craigevil | eggleston: You can try "clit" > Convert Microsoft's .lit ebook format back into the raw HTML it was created from. |
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| 10:52.57 | rahul | mmm randomness |
| 10:53.06 | rahul | bleed this heart of mine by btreakerbox! |
| 10:53.37 | rahul | I should have hung out with them last time they were in town |
| 10:53.46 | rahul | instead of my lameass friends heh |
| 10:54.07 | eggleston | craigevil, it's microsoft's but it works on linux? |
| 10:54.30 | rahul | eggleston: someone has written software to rea it |
| 10:54.32 | craigevil | you cant view a .lit file , but you can convert it back to html |
| 10:54.33 | rahul | in linux |
| 10:54.57 | rahul | well I can't get you... what you want, what you want baby! |
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| 10:55.09 | rahul | no no no I can't bleed this heart of mine! |
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| 10:57.47 | eggleston | rahul, looks like a job for sup[er google |
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| 10:58.15 | rahul | nope |
| 10:58.25 | rahul | it's just that christina reilly |
| 10:58.35 | rahul | my favorite buffalo buffaloe |
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| 10:59.05 | ESPOiG | if i wanted to chmod 777 all the files within a dir say /media/hdc1/ would i do chmod 777 /media/hdc1/* |
| 10:59.40 | pythonic | ESPOiG: no, you'd ask "why am i doing this?" :-) |
| 10:59.45 | Aniasha | hi |
| 11:01.58 | ESPOiG | pythonic, it aint a hdd it is just an example i just want to know where i went wrong please |
| 11:02.54 | eap | ESPOiG: a cursory glance @ 'man chmod' will ans that ... ;-) |
| 11:03.09 | pythonic | chmod 777 foo/* will not chmod "dot files" |
| 11:04.27 | pythonic | ESPOiG: do you want all subdirectories and files within them as well? |
| 11:04.37 | ESPOiG | pythonic, yes please |
| 11:05.10 | ESPOiG | is there a better way to do this ?? by another means - another command |
| 11:05.19 | ESPOiG | i dont care about . files |
| 11:05.38 | eap | ESPOiG: have a look at the "-R" option |
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| 11:06.00 | pythonic | find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 644 |
| 11:06.15 | pythonic | find -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755 |
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| 11:06.57 | pythonic | find -type f -print0 gives you files (not directories) null terminated |
| 11:07.10 | pythonic | find -type d -print0 gives you directories (not files) null terminated |
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| 11:07.40 | pythonic | xargs -0 chmod xxx runs chmod will null terminated names as arguments. |
| 11:08.03 | ESPOiG | eap, ty sudo chmod -R 777 ~/adir/* |
| 11:09.00 | solar- | htp://www.solarcombat.net << An awesome game! http://www.solarcombat.net/hosting.php << An awesome host! |
| 11:09.23 | badcfe | pythonic: why is null termination needed? doenst it work otherwise, on directory names with spaces? |
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| 11:10.03 | pythonic | badcfe: yeah, names with spaces |
| 11:10.48 | pythonic | badcfe: you can change the conditions in the find to pick up executable files and make chmod 755 instead, or whatever... |
| 11:11.40 | badcfe | pythonic: oh i have the habbit of doing find and xargs without the null termination. i see its unsafe... |
| 11:12.12 | badcfe | pythonic: i guess for generic stuff and production stuff, the null termination technique should always be used then. |
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| 11:13.35 | pythonic | yep. i don't use spaces in my filenames, but other people do the darndest things :-) |
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| 11:15.00 | iuso | hmm, what is the tool in etch to adjust locale and other i18n settings in etch? |
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| 11:17.51 | liable | dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
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| 11:18.37 | protocol1 | is there an easy way to get my laptops wireless running? |
| 11:18.57 | liable | protocol1: if the driver is in the kernel, yes |
| 11:18.58 | Kevin` | protocol1 what chipset is it, and what bus is it connected with |
| 11:19.07 | liable | protocol1: if its supported at all, yes |
| 11:19.08 | protocol1 | Intel |
| 11:19.17 | Kevin` | which intel |
| 11:19.21 | liable | protocol1: if it can work with ndiswrapper, yes |
| 11:19.25 | Kevin` | some of the later intel are less stable |
| 11:19.34 | liable | protocol1: if not, your fucked :) |
| 11:19.36 | Kevin` | liable intel doesn't need ndiswrapper, shoo |
| 11:19.38 | Kevin` | =p |
| 11:19.54 | liable | Kevin`: i was typing when he wrote that :P |
| 11:20.00 | Kevin` | intel directly supports native linux drivers |
| 11:20.26 | protocol1 | how can I tell what chipset it has? |
| 11:20.29 | Kevin` | lspci |
| 11:20.33 | Kevin` | or look at it |
| 11:20.34 | protocol1 | yeah I did that |
| 11:20.41 | Kevin` | what did it say |
| 11:20.42 | protocol1 | what am I looking for |
| 11:20.45 | Kevin` | the name |
| 11:20.54 | Kevin` | intel pro/wireless SOMETHING |
| 11:21.10 | protocol1 | pro/wireless 2200bg |
| 11:21.20 | Kevin` | ah, that's a good |
| 11:21.22 | Kevin` | ah, that's a good one |
| 11:21.30 | Kevin` | and supported by a driver in the kernel tree |
| 11:21.36 | protocol1 | :) |
| 11:21.38 | protocol1 | cool |
| 11:21.43 | cydork | protocol1: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
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| 11:22.49 | Kevin` | lol |
| 11:22.51 | Kevin` | :D |
| 11:23.18 | cydork | !prize enouf |
| 11:23.29 | enouf | danke :-) |
| 11:23.32 | Kevin` | wireless is really nice if you have devices that move |
| 11:23.38 | Kevin` | like laptops, pdas, etc |
| 11:23.58 | enouf | agreed |
| 11:24.01 | cydork | Kevin`: it's nice if your neighbor have it :P |
| 11:24.19 | Kevin` | I need a dish to be able to reach my neighbors properly |
| 11:24.26 | Kevin` | can't put a dish on every device :) |
| 11:24.34 | Kevin` | (and the software for my repeater isn't done yet..) |
| 11:24.36 | cydork | Kevin`: say's who? :) |
| 11:24.42 | enouf | Kevin`: or a hunts tomato can :-) |
| 11:24.52 | Kevin` | cydork dish or other high gain directional yes |
| 11:25.19 | cydork | Kevin`: have you seen cantenna :P |
| 11:25.24 | Kevin` | yes |
| 11:25.32 | Kevin` | I built a biquad though.. |
| 11:25.37 | itchi | Yeah can build your own one |
| 11:25.56 | enouf | Kevin`: use cantenna .. they'll think you're feeding the birds :-) |
| 11:26.02 | Kevin` | lol |
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| 11:26.21 | Kevin` | not with the handle, wire, and laptop in hand :) |
| 11:26.49 | enouf | Kevin`: mount that puppy in the nearest treestand .. |
| 11:27.06 | Kevin` | I was thinking roof |
| 11:27.17 | enouf | Birds like trees :-) |
| 11:27.36 | enouf | and roofs sometimes .. but trees offer more cover |
| 11:28.16 | itchi | For example http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html |
| 11:28.48 | itchi | enouf: :-p |
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| 11:41.15 | aidehua | How do I tell the date I installed a particular package? |
| 11:41.42 | aidehua | (Is there a more reliable method than the dates in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?) |
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| 11:42.39 | cydork | aidehua: /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 11:42.43 | aidehua | cydork: ta |
| 11:42.55 | protocol1 | cydork, can you send me that link again |
| 11:43.16 | cydork | protocol1: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
| 11:43.19 | aidehua | cydork: I don't have that file on my (sarge) system. |
| 11:43.31 | cydork | aidehua: ahh sarge doesn't have that file |
| 11:43.43 | cydork | aidehua: do you use apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 11:44.21 | cydork | aidehua: the previous version of dpkg does not create log file. |
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| 11:47.17 | aidehua | cydork: aptitude, but sometimes apt-get. |
| 11:47.19 | r40j_ | an xargs question for those cli gurus... i've written a quick mysql database backup one liner.. the problem... mysqldump doesn't have an output file argument.. so the database name from xargs cannot be used as ... " mysqldump <options> {} > {}" ... the 2nd {} will not expand to the database name... any ideas how I could get around this? |
| 11:47.31 | aidehua | cydork: Aha -- I see there is an aptitude log file. |
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| 11:48.22 | r40j_ | find /var/lib/mysql/* -maxdepth 0 -type d|sed -e 's/^.*\///'|xargs -n1 -i mysqldump -a -c --add-locks --allow-keywords -l -q -Q -u root {} > {}.sql |
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| 11:48.28 | r40j_ | ^^^ that's what I have atm |
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| 11:48.46 | r40j_ | any help with how I get the 2nd {} to expand for the output filename would be good |
| 11:49.01 | r40j_ | curse mysqldump for not having and --output-file={}.sql grrrrr! |
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| 11:49.48 | gui | hi |
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| 11:50.40 | gui | I just want to know if I need different physical phone lines to submit many adsl contrat ? |
| 11:51.25 | blondie | r40j_: put it in a shell script instead |
| 11:52.17 | r40j_ | yeah, that's my only other thought.. something that takes the form <progname> <outfile> <options....> |
| 11:52.28 | r40j_ | but i wondered if im missing something before I hack it around like this |
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| 11:52.42 | xingu | r40j_: for db in `ls /var/lib/mysql/*`; do [ -d "${db}" ] && mysqldump -a -c --add-locks --allow-keywords -l -q -Q -u root "${db}" > "${db}".sql; done |
| 11:52.49 | protocol1 | cydork, I am not getting one of the packages that are required |
| 11:53.06 | cydork | protocol1: which one? |
| 11:53.08 | protocol1 | Im not sure why...I did add the extra repositories |
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| 11:53.22 | r40j_ | ah ok xingu.. i will digest that one sec! |
| 11:53.25 | r40j_ | thank you!!! |
| 11:53.25 | cydork | aidehua: yep aptitude has log but apt-get doesnt |
| 11:53.49 | aidehua | The dpkg.log thing sounds like a great feature :) |
| 11:54.05 | protocol1 | cydork, the kernel-headers package |
| 11:54.06 | cydork | aidehua: yep it's there in etch :) |
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| 11:54.43 | protocol1 | one for my kernel I believe |
| 11:55.27 | cydork | protocol1: which kernel are you using? custom? |
| 11:55.51 | protocol1 | 2.6.18-3-686 |
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| 11:56.15 | cydork | protocol1: it's linux-headers. |
| 11:56.28 | cydork | protocol1: and ipw2200 is included in that kernel |
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| 11:56.42 | cydork | protocol1: so no need to compile it. :) |
| 11:57.06 | protocol1 | how can I get my wireless working? |
| 11:57.31 | cydork | protocol1: get the firmware,modprobe the module and bingo :) |
| 11:58.00 | protocol1 | cydork, have steps of a page I can follow? |
| 11:58.12 | protocol1 | or some good intructions? |
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| 11:58.45 | protocol1 | sorry Im a newbie |
| 11:59.41 | cydork | protocol1: step 1) /msg dpkg w2200 firmware>. Project page: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net : cydork: i |
| 11:59.52 | cydork | damn sorry |
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| 12:00.05 | cydork | protocol1: step 1) /msg dpkg ipw2200 firmware |
| 12:00.29 | ma3x | how can I roll back a package to the previous version with aptitude? |
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| 12:01.13 | cydork | ma3x: like this install app=0.1 where 0.1 is the version |
| 12:01.36 | ma3x | cydork: but I mean with the GUI of aptitude |
| 12:01.56 | cydork | ma3x: dont use it? :P |
| 12:02.07 | ma3x | cydork: but how do I know what was the previous version |
| 12:02.19 | cydork | ma3x: i hate the gui.. :) |
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| 12:03.36 | cydork | ma3x: well you can check which version is there in repo. by p.d.o or if you want a very old version check snapshot.debian.net(not recommanded) |
| 12:03.50 | ma3x | whats pdo |
| 12:03.58 | cydork | !pdo |
| 12:03.58 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 12:04.31 | b0red | hi. is there any file in proc that has ps like output? |
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| 12:07.53 | reklez | i'm getting issues with X.org and NVIDIA. |
| 12:08.08 | reklez | how do I set it so it only shows available space on monitor. |
| 12:08.20 | protocol1 | command to extract a .tgz file? |
| 12:08.20 | reklez | it has extra space when i go to the edge. |
| 12:08.28 | protocol1 | I hate repeating myself |
| 12:08.32 | protocol1 | srry |
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| 12:08.49 | SlayerXP | protocol1: "man tar" |
| 12:08.50 | blondie | protocol1: tar -xf file.tgz |
| 12:08.55 | blondie | erm |
| 12:08.58 | blondie | protocol1: tar -xzf file.tgz |
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| 12:12.55 | protocol1 | cydork, do I stick the ipw firmware folder inside /lib/firmware/ |
| 12:13.02 | protocol1 | or just the firmware files? |
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| 12:15.35 | aronofsky | Hi , id got an ATI RADEON 9550 and I want to use beryl with xorg , not xgl , and id like to know what driver I should Use , apparently it not possible with fglrx for now ... is it right ? |
| 12:16.34 | protocol1 | cydork, how do I go about loading firmware with udev or hotplug now? |
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| 12:17.15 | protocol1 | anyone? |
| 12:17.20 | Capkirk | where to put static routes in debian so i dont have to add manually when restarting box? |
| 12:17.29 | cydork | protocol1: dont worry about that |
| 12:17.41 | protocol1 | just reboot now or what |
| 12:17.52 | cydork | protocol1: as soon as you modprobe the module a interface should be there. |
| 12:17.58 | cydork | protocol1: no need to reboot |
| 12:18.10 | protocol1 | how do I go about doing that now? |
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| 12:18.15 | protocol1 | modprobe |
| 12:18.25 | cydork | protocol1: modprobe ipw2200 |
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| 12:19.16 | RoyK | how can I find which packet owns a particular file, say /bin/asdf? |
| 12:19.16 | cydork | RoyK: dpkg -L file/path |
| 12:19.22 | protocol1 | should I see anything happen? |
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| 12:19.37 | protocol1 | should I be in a certain directory or be root? |
| 12:19.39 | cydork | RoyK: sorry -S :P |
| 12:19.59 | cydork | protocol1: you have to be root |
| 12:20.16 | protocol1 | stay in the home dir as root right? |
| 12:20.25 | protocol1 | then modprobe |
| 12:20.47 | cydork | protocol1: yes |
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| 12:21.27 | protocol1 | I did it |
| 12:21.35 | protocol1 | but didnt see any action |
| 12:21.51 | protocol1 | what am I looking for? |
| 12:22.59 | RoyK | cydork: that only lists files in a package |
| 12:23.08 | RoyK | i want to do it the other way around |
| 12:23.53 | protocol1 | do I need to be in the /lib/firmware/ folder? |
| 12:25.02 | cydork | RoyK: ya i know i wanted to say -S |
| 12:25.11 | cydork | protocol1: nope |
| 12:25.29 | cydork | RoyK: so it't dpkg -S /path/to/file |
| 12:25.39 | cydork | bahh |
| 12:25.45 | protocol1 | what am I looking for after the modprobe |
| 12:25.45 | cydork | !typosmite me |
| 12:26.00 | cydork | protocol1: ifconfig |
| 12:26.10 | cydork | protocol1: you should see a new interface in that |
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| 12:27.25 | protocol1 | just eth0 eth1 lo |
| 12:27.46 | cydork | protocol1: do you have the right version of firmware? |
| 12:27.54 | protocol1 | 3.0 |
| 12:28.33 | protocol1 | I extract the firmware files to /lib/firmware |
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| 12:28.40 | protocol1 | or the ipw folder |
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| 12:29.15 | cydork | protocol1: to /lib/firmware/ |
| 12:29.52 | protocol1 | yeah I have the files in there |
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| 12:30.03 | protocol1 | think I have the wrong firmware version? |
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| 12:31.22 | aronofsky | hi , I got an ATI Radeon 9550 and i want to use Beryl with Xorg , not XGL , id like to know which driver i can use because i read somewhere that it was not possible with fglrx , is it right ? |
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| 12:33.57 | cydork | protocol1: ya guess so |
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| 12:34.26 | protocol1 | cydork, my Inter version is 1.2.0 |
| 12:34.33 | protocol1 | Intel* |
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| 12:35.28 | kumamoto | can one run tomcat by itself without apache or are they so entwined that tomcat can't run without apache |
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| 12:35.44 | Fox | you can run tomcat without apache |
| 12:36.06 | kumamoto | nice |
| 12:37.02 | protocol1 | cydork, know whats wrong? |
| 12:37.02 | dererk[work] | Good morning there! |
| 12:37.27 | protocol1 | i'll try the 1.2 firmware files |
| 12:37.36 | cydork | protocol1: hmm strange.. did modprobe ipw2200 give any errors |
| 12:37.52 | protocol1 | no |
| 12:37.58 | protocol1 | doest give feed back |
| 12:38.07 | cydork | protocol1: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php says you need version 3 |
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| 12:38.27 | cydork | protocol1: type ifconfig -a |
| 12:38.34 | protocol1 | cydork, got a link to pastebin |
| 12:38.36 | protocol1 | ? |
| 12:38.38 | dererk[work] | ! insult cydork |
| 12:38.39 | dpkg | cydork is nothing but a mammering mass of hugger-muggered cat hair |
| 12:38.41 | dererk[work] | :) |
| 12:38.58 | protocol1 | I can show you what I have done in console |
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| 12:39.30 | cydork | dererk[work]: how does dpkg know about that :) |
| 12:39.54 | dererk[work] | cydork, it's 'cause you stink too much :)) |
| 12:40.03 | cydork | dererk[work]: heh |
| 12:40.18 | protocol1 | anyone got a pastebin url |
| 12:40.21 | protocol1 | forgot it |
| 12:40.28 | dererk[work] | cydork, what's up ? |
| 12:40.38 | dererk[work] | protocol1, paste.debian.net |
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| 12:40.42 | dererk[work] | I think :) |
| 12:40.57 | eap | pastebin.ca |
| 12:41.10 | cydork | !paster |
| 12:41.10 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 12:41.29 | cydork | dererk[work]: you think? since when? :P |
| 12:41.41 | dererk[work] | lol |
| 12:42.05 | protocol1 | cydork, check it out http://paste.debian.net/18829 |
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| 12:43.15 | protocol1 | maybe Im not doing something right |
| 12:43.26 | cydork | protocol1: i said ifconfig -a |
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| 12:44.53 | protocol1 | cydork, http://paste.debian.net/18830 |
| 12:45.51 | cydork | protocol1: hmm |
| 12:46.40 | protocol1 | should I restart X |
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| 12:47.33 | cydork | protocol1: no.. |
| 12:47.52 | protocol1 | what would you recommend I try next? |
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| 12:48.59 | protocol1 | but when I do the modprobe ipw2200 nothing happens |
| 12:49.11 | cydork | protocol1: you can also try at #ipw2200 |
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| 12:50.04 | protocol1 | right... 1 user |
| 12:50.06 | protocol1 | lol |
| 12:50.10 | protocol1 | me |
| 12:50.13 | nayyare-off | how can i install zend lib, as durring php, make process it give me error for missing zlib? |
| 12:50.39 | protocol1 | there has to be a quick way to getting my wireless drivers working |
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| 12:54.15 | dezent | bvv |
| 12:54.38 | jatt | !lol |
| 12:54.38 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 12:57.06 | dm | Hello. How can I prevent the ssh client from checking the remote host key? |
| 12:57.28 | SerajewelKS | you don't, because that would be dumb |
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| 12:58.40 | darkoh | hello, is there a debian sarge 2.6.17 netinstall iso? |
| 12:58.47 | kittu | hi everybody! |
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| 12:59.16 | Kevin` | I would install etch, rather then sarge, but that's me |
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| 12:59.49 | kittu | we had a linux lab today... few ppl came from free software foundation and teached us how to install debian.. but after installation, we're unable to login using gnome,, what can be the problem? plzz help |
| 13:00.10 | abrotman | any errors in xsession-errors ? |
| 13:00.16 | stoned | dude |
| 13:00.18 | stoned | its like 7am |
| 13:00.21 | stoned | do you EVER sleep |
| 13:00.23 | stoned | ? |
| 13:00.26 | darkoh | rotfl |
| 13:00.39 | stoned | I mean I woke up to email my boss |
| 13:00.43 | tarzeau | darkoh: there's the .jp guy installer that has a new kernel like that |
| 13:00.50 | stoned | I'm sick, throat stiff/swollen, fever, sick sick sick |
| 13:00.52 | tarzeau | darkoh: or you just use the etch one |
| 13:01.03 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: it's possible |
| 13:01.08 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: and no, it's not dumb |
| 13:01.08 | abrotman | dude .. don't you ever sleep ? |
| 13:01.15 | stoned | I went to bed before you did |
| 13:01.20 | abrotman | lies! |
| 13:01.22 | darkoh | etch is still on the testing stage is it? |
| 13:01.24 | stoned | 10pm or so, and woke up at 6:30 |
| 13:01.27 | tarzeau | darkoh: yes |
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| 13:01.30 | stoned | lol |
| 13:01.43 | darkoh | what kernel does etch uses tarzeau ? |
| 13:01.52 | stoned | 2.6.18 |
| 13:01.54 | abrotman | so what .. i fell asleep at like 1am and woke up at 730 .. what of it ? |
| 13:01.59 | darkoh | nice |
| 13:02.05 | tarzeau | darkoh: no idea, i use my own kernels and sid |
| 13:02.10 | protocol1 | cydork, can I try ndiswrapper? |
| 13:02.14 | tarzeau | darkoh: Linux ankara 2.6.18-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 16:41:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:02.17 | kittu | we had a linux lab today... few ppl came from free software foundation and teached us how to install debian.. but after installation, we're unable to login using gnome,, what can be the problem? plzz help |
| 13:02.25 | stoned | darkoh, I believe it ships with 2.6.18, however, you can use whatever |
| 13:02.32 | tarzeau | dpkg tell kittu about repeat |
| 13:02.48 | tarzeau | stoned: well no more 2.2.x since sarge |
| 13:03.02 | stoned | huh? |
| 13:03.03 | darkoh | k guys thanks |
| 13:03.09 | stoned | well yeah |
| 13:03.14 | stoned | old shit aint runnin |
| 13:03.18 | stoned | true dat |
| 13:03.25 | RvGaTe | is it possible to create a virtual test lab for LDAP within vmware... all based on debian virtual machines, without any trouble? :) |
| 13:03.48 | abrotman | any errors in xsession-errors ? |
| 13:03.56 | stoned | hey, RvGaTe one of my pipeline customers is named Rene and he is french and has the most awesome accent ever |
| 13:04.10 | RvGaTe | stoned, well, it aint me, haha |
| 13:04.15 | stoned | he buys like 20K worth computer equipment a week |
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| 13:04.22 | stoned | reseller/consultant |
| 13:04.30 | stoned | RvGaTe, how you been dude! |
| 13:04.34 | RvGaTe | as long as the customer pays ;) |
| 13:04.49 | RvGaTe | stoned, im fine really :) |
| 13:04.56 | RvGaTe | stoned, actually, im doing great |
| 13:05.07 | stoned | hows ubuntu working out for ya RvGaTe |
| 13:05.18 | RvGaTe | stoned, hahaha, that made me laugh :P |
| 13:05.27 | stoned | sorry mate, couldn't resist |
| 13:05.28 | stoned | :D |
| 13:05.30 | RvGaTe | stoned, debian eth all the way now |
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| 13:05.37 | stoned | nice |
| 13:05.48 | stoned | welcome to the world of people with balls, aka debian |
| 13:05.49 | stoned | :D |
| 13:05.51 | RvGaTe | stoned, i do have my windows installed, but thats mainly for the games |
| 13:05.57 | stoned | me too |
| 13:06.03 | stoned | I got oblivion, thats all I play |
| 13:06.17 | RvGaTe | stoned, all steampowered over here |
| 13:06.33 | stoned | this bag... |
| 13:06.36 | stoned | smells really really good |
| 13:07.06 | stoned | hey |
| 13:07.17 | stoned | remember last we talked on phone |
| 13:07.22 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:07.24 | dm | (SerajewelKS:) The ssh remote host (always 127.0.0.1) can have sereral keys and fingerprints. I want ssh client to show me the remote fingerprint and ask id I want to go on. Is that possible? |
| 13:07.25 | stoned | I was getting intervieew |
| 13:07.26 | RvGaTe | stoned, let me guess; a rather small bag, most likely with a vacuum seal, with some green stuff in it ? |
| 13:07.29 | stoned | i got the job |
| 13:07.35 | RvGaTe | \o/ |
| 13:07.37 | stoned | I sell computers/servers now |
| 13:07.39 | RvGaTe | congrats |
| 13:07.42 | stoned | :D |
| 13:07.48 | dm | s/id/if/ |
| 13:07.57 | stoned | 45k/yr salary |
| 13:08.19 | RvGaTe | thats nice |
| 13:08.43 | stoned | well its ok |
| 13:08.52 | stoned | i have not even got bachelors yet |
| 13:08.54 | stoned | 1 yr left |
| 13:08.59 | abrotman | more than some people twice your age make |
| 13:09.15 | RvGaTe | abrotman, words up mixed ? |
| 13:09.22 | stoned | soon as i graduate, i'll hopefully end up in 10 yrs at 50-75k/yr |
| 13:09.36 | abrotman | RvGaTe: no |
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| 13:10.17 | PumpkinPie | stoned: ill buy one |
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| 13:11.32 | stoned | i got a 499$ desktop, dimension e521, 512 ddr2 ram, 20" widescreen flat, 160gb sata2, 128mb pci-e ati |
| 13:11.44 | stoned | lol |
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| 13:11.48 | stoned | its a piece of shit |
| 13:11.53 | stoned | but it sells like hotcakes |
| 13:11.56 | protocol1 | cydork, how do I go about loading the drivers? |
| 13:12.02 | protocol1 | not firmware? |
| 13:12.09 | protocol1 | not firmware* |
| 13:12.16 | PumpkinPie | stoned: pm |
| 13:12.21 | pablo_ | hi, i did a netinstall through the wireless pcmcia all right, but now that it finished it doesnt work |
| 13:12.24 | stoned | sure |
| 13:12.38 | protocol1 | I have the drivers folder with a bunch or files that look like executables |
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| 13:13.21 | cydork | protocol1: no! modprobe ipw2200 is enough |
| 13:15.05 | pablo_ | how do i set up the wireless |
| 13:15.15 | protocol1 | ok I have an eth2 now |
| 13:15.50 | kumamoto | has anyone heard about install public gpg keys from gpg.org? |
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| 13:16.06 | jax | Hi |
| 13:16.14 | jax | how to select a word using sed ? |
| 13:16.28 | jax | with specyfic patern ? for example word begining with GP |
| 13:16.34 | kumamoto | I mean gnu.org |
| 13:16.39 | kumamoto | not gpg.org |
| 13:16.56 | protocol1 | cydork, http://paste.debian.net/18834 |
| 13:17.01 | jatt | jax: ^GP |
| 13:17.02 | jatt | no? |
| 13:17.07 | protocol1 | the new one is in there |
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| 13:17.23 | cydork | protocol1: ya now install wireless-tools and read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian |
| 13:17.25 | jatt | jax: aaa you mean word, not line |
| 13:17.54 | pablo_ | why did wireless worked in netinstall and now not? |
| 13:17.59 | eduhat | can anyone please help me install debian with new kernel... the one that is on the disk is 2.4 and i need 2.6.14 (i think) for hostap for use with wireless |
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| 13:18.34 | protocol1 | jsut apt-get wireless-tools? |
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| 13:18.47 | Ronin | eduhat: sarge? if so type linux26 at the start |
| 13:18.47 | eduhat | protocol1: me? |
| 13:18.54 | jax | jatt: yes |
| 13:18.54 | protocol1 | me |
| 13:18.55 | cydork | protocol1: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 13:18.58 | jax | jatt: a word |
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| 13:19.37 | eduhat | Ronin: there is no start... it just goes straight to the graphical install... ex. choose language, choose keymap |
| 13:19.39 | protocol1 | newest version |
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| 13:20.13 | Ronin | eduhat: stop pressing keys at the start ;) |
| 13:20.32 | eduhat | Ronin: do you mean right when it starts up? like when i press enter to boot normal kernel? |
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| 13:20.44 | pablo_ | cydork: wireless worked during netinstall and now that it finished it doesnt, it must be a problem of configuration right? |
| 13:20.54 | eduhat | Ronin: allright i got it |
| 13:21.02 | Ronin | eduhat: yes dont press enter type linux26 instead |
| 13:21.13 | eduhat | Ronin: what version kernel is that? |
| 13:21.21 | Ronin | 2.6something |
| 13:21.34 | Ronin | cant recall exactly which it is |
| 13:21.41 | eduhat | Ronin: do you use wireless with hostap |
| 13:22.54 | Ronin | eduhat: no i dont, |
| 13:23.02 | eduhat | Ronin: okay |
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| 13:23.12 | pablo_ | Ronin: wireless worked during netinstall and now that it finished it doesnt, it must be a problem of configuration right? |
| 13:23.19 | dm | There's an option NoHostAuthenticationForLocalhost that works for 127.0.0.1, is there something for other hosts too? |
| 13:23.40 | ericP | anyone here ever think about making dpkg push new files into the updatedb during dpkg -i? (and, of course, judiciously remove them during dpkg -r) |
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| 13:23.58 | eduhat | what does updatedb do? |
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| 13:24.04 | pablo_ | iwconfig tells me that there is no wireless extension |
| 13:24.08 | cydork | pablo_: which wireless card? |
| 13:24.22 | ericP | eduhat, actually, i should have said "locatedb". |
| 13:24.33 | pablo_ | cydork: linksys |
| 13:24.41 | ericP | eduhat, updatedb is the script that updates the backend database for 4(locate) |
| 13:24.45 | tarzeau | is it safe to remove gzip? |
| 13:24.47 | pablo_ | cydork: it worked right in the netinstall step |
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| 13:26.12 | cydork | pablo_: what is the chipset? or the model no? |
| 13:26.42 | pablo_ | cydork: wpc11 v3 |
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| 13:27.13 | cydork | pablo_: modprobe orinoco |
| 13:27.21 | protocol1_ | cydork, thanks for the help...I got it up and running :) |
| 13:27.37 | protocol1_ | really....I appreciate it |
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| 13:27.51 | cydork | protocol1_: no prob. :) |
| 13:28.25 | protocol1_ | I just went to network manager and did the setup with the GUI :) |
| 13:28.36 | protocol1_ | since Im a newb |
| 13:29.07 | eduhat | can anyone here help me get hostap working with debian? |
| 13:29.54 | eduhat | right now i think its using orinoco and that is the incorrect one. i need to use hostap |
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| 13:30.12 | pablo_ | cydork: and then? |
| 13:30.54 | cydork | pablo_: check ifconfig -a |
| 13:31.54 | pablo_ | cydork: in gnome lan configuration when i activate it it desapears |
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| 13:33.12 | inzion | somone's got a clue, why a system clock is running way too slow under debian sarge..? hwclock is running correctly, upgrading kernel from 2.4.20 (thought maybe a bit too old ;)) to 2.6.8 didn't help.. it runs probably half the speed it actually should.. |
| 13:34.03 | cydork | pablo_: blame gnome :P |
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| 13:35.20 | pablo_ | cydork: are you sure it is orinoco? |
| 13:35.36 | pablo_ | cydork: in case it is prism? |
| 13:35.45 | pablo_ | what should i modprobe |
| 13:36.09 | cydork | pablo_: i think it's orinoco |
| 13:36.18 | pablo_ | in lspci it doesnt appear |
| 13:36.24 | cydork | pablo_: still check in http://linux-wless.passys.nl |
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| 13:38.24 | xored | iam trying to copy my whole root partition to an other. i created a second partion, mounted the root part to a single point /mnt/oldroot and the new one to /mnt/newroot how to copy _Everything_ with there owners and permissions |
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| 13:38.57 | SerajewelKS | xored: cp -ax |
| 13:38.57 | pablo_ | cydork: what should i do, it is no listed in iwconfig |
| 13:39.01 | cydork | pablo_: what about in ifconfig -a? |
| 13:39.09 | SerajewelKS | xored: or to be exact, cp -ax / /mnt/newroot |
| 13:39.42 | xored | thank you |
| 13:39.42 | pablo_ | cydork: yes |
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| 13:40.07 | pablo_ | cydork: link encap UNSPEC HWaddr 0000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 13:40.29 | pablo_ | cydork: it is not working |
| 13:40.39 | cydork | pablo_: hmm strange |
| 13:41.27 | pablo_ | cydork: in ifconfig it is not listed |
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| 13:43.09 | zamaliphe | how can i add an "iso" img to /etc/fstab to be mount on boot ? |
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| 13:44.08 | pablo_ | cydork: what can i do |
| 13:44.34 | liable | i hate it when something changes that i am too stupid to work out what |
| 13:44.37 | SerajewelKS | zamaliphe: same as the others, just list "loop" in the options |
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| 13:46.43 | cydork | pablo_: i have doubts if it's the orinoco now.. |
| 13:46.52 | cydork | pablo_: google it :P |
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| 13:47.07 | jharrisonwk | orinoco? |
| 13:47.29 | pablo_ | cydork: dont know, but it must work, it worked during the netinstall |
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| 13:47.51 | cydork | pablo_: on which kernel are you now? |
| 13:48.06 | eduhat | what chipset? |
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| 13:48.14 | abrotman | zamaliphe: mount it over loopback |
| 13:48.18 | pablo_ | cydork: 2.6.17 |
| 13:48.20 | jharrisonwk | orinoco should just work |
| 13:48.47 | jharrisonwk | at least it use to |
| 13:49.00 | cydork | jharrisonwk: ya that's what i thought :) |
| 13:49.24 | eduhat | pablo_: what chipset? |
| 13:50.05 | eduhat | i have a card with prism 2.5 chipset at it works with orinoco... but i need to get it working with hostap for use with kismet |
| 13:50.08 | pablo_ | eduhat: prism |
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| 13:50.50 | eduhat | pablo_: and orinoco doesnt work? |
| 13:50.50 | pablo_ | which drivers does the netinstall use? |
| 13:50.52 | zamaliphe | abrotman: lits say the file is "/media/hda1/debian.iso" will be mounted in "/mnt/iso/1" now what would be the fstab line for that ? |
| 13:51.21 | abrotman | man fstab and man mount should explain this |
| 13:52.54 | pablo_ | aggghhh |
| 13:53.01 | pablo_ | what can i do |
| 13:53.54 | jharrisonwk | cydork: probably some config issue |
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| 13:54.19 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes sure |
| 13:54.27 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: what should i check |
| 13:54.40 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: I dont know |
| 13:54.49 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: its been a while since I played with wireless |
| 13:54.55 | ixrp_ | how i can know why some daemons like apt-listchanges or cron send me to /var/mail/root and not send to the root account alias defined in /etc/aliases? |
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| 13:55.10 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: if it wont list in ifconfig -a then thats a problem |
| 13:55.17 | pablo_ | it should appear something telling me the strnght of the connection? |
| 13:55.20 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: that sounds like the system doesnt even see the card |
| 13:55.26 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: this is a laptop? |
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| 13:56.04 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes it is, and it list it there, it doenst list it in iwconfig and in ifconfig, but yes on ifconfig -a |
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| 13:56.20 | jharrisonwk | oh thats good |
| 13:56.32 | jharrisonwk | so maybe it is just a config issue |
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| 13:56.44 | protocol1 | how about upgrading to firefox 2? |
| 13:56.56 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you have the config in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 13:57.16 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you read documentation on hwo to set up the wireles in linux right? |
| 13:57.16 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes, the gnome lan configurator does it |
| 13:57.42 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: it appears in the interfaces file as wifi0 |
| 13:57.58 | abrotman | protocol1: what about it ? |
| 13:58.04 | jharrisonwk | so what does ifup wifi0 do? |
| 13:58.41 | protocol1 | abrotman, its activates that connection |
| 13:58.55 | abrotman | huh ? |
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| 13:59.23 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: it trys to search for a ip but is always says send_packet network is down |
| 13:59.25 | jharrisonwk | protocol1: turn the orb of confusion off |
| 13:59.38 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: ah |
| 13:59.46 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: it is suppose to get ip over dhcp? |
| 13:59.46 | eduhat | pablo_: ifconfig wifi0 up |
| 13:59.56 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: ye it is |
| 14:00.06 | eduhat | pablo_: after that dhclient wifi0 |
| 14:00.18 | eduhat | jharrisonwk: shouldnt that work? |
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| 14:00.36 | jharrisonwk | eduhat: dont see why that would work and ifup wifi0 would not work |
| 14:00.42 | jharrisonwk | but its worth a try |
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| 14:01.00 | eduhat | jharrisonwk: allright. i am not familiar with the ifup command.. thats why i was asking |
| 14:01.22 | jharrisonwk | eduhat: its basically the same thing |
| 14:01.32 | jharrisonwk | eduhat: ifconfig is good to use as well |
| 14:01.40 | eduhat | jharrisonwk: allright |
| 14:01.45 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: try what eduhat said |
| 14:01.50 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: see if that does anything |
| 14:01.55 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: no sorry, in ifup wifi0 it says interface already configured |
| 14:02.11 | eduhat | pablo_: ifconfig wifi0 up |
| 14:02.19 | eduhat | pablo_: dhclient wifi0 |
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| 14:03.09 | pablo_ | eduhat: such dispositive doesnt exixts |
| 14:03.20 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: ? |
| 14:03.25 | eduhat | pablo_: whatt? |
| 14:03.35 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: no comprende |
| 14:03.48 | pablo_ | eduhat: when i type ifconfig wifi0 up, it tells me that it doesnt exists |
| 14:04.03 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: but ifconfig -a lists wifi0 right? |
| 14:04.07 | eduhat | pablo_: then that is not the interface of your card |
| 14:04.10 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: right |
| 14:04.16 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you have the driver loaded in kernel right? |
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| 14:04.25 | buggarage | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.45 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes |
| 14:04.51 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you sure? |
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| 14:05.12 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: sure |
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| 14:05.32 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: modprobe orinoco i did some time ago |
| 14:06.12 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: lsmod | grep orinoco |
| 14:06.38 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: is this a pcmcia card? |
| 14:06.41 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: tes it appears orinoco and the rest |
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| 14:08.28 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: what happens when you pull out the card? |
| 14:08.32 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes it is a pcmcia |
| 14:08.34 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: any log messages? |
| 14:08.50 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: tail -f /var/log/kern.log maybe? |
| 14:09.08 | jharrisonwk | or maybe there is a pcmcia log file in /var/log |
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| 14:10.01 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: pccard ejected |
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| 14:10.11 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: and back in? |
| 14:11.01 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: pccard inserted, and some errors |
| 14:11.19 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: prism2_config() failed |
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| 14:11.44 | jharrisonwk | prism2? |
| 14:11.56 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: what orinoco card is it? |
| 14:12.51 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: linksys wpc11 v3 |
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| 14:14.05 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: its a linksys card or an orinoco card? |
| 14:14.21 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: linksys |
| 14:14.48 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: well that information would have been helpful 30 minutes ago |
| 14:15.01 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: maybe you are using the wrong driver? |
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| 14:16.24 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: it has prism chipset and it should work with orinoco driver+ |
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| 14:17.37 | rafiks | gzip is broken in unstable right now? |
| 14:17.52 | JimBowen | apparently so, just tried upgrade myself |
| 14:17.59 | rafiks | i just updated and it won't unpack correctly |
| 14:18.17 | rafiks | where do we file bug report? |
| 14:18.24 | rafiks | is there a bug report package? |
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| 14:18.31 | JimBowen | reportbug iirc |
| 14:18.44 | rafiks | ok..will try it.. |
| 14:18.46 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: what? |
| 14:18.59 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: when you did the install did you check lsmod to see which driver was being used? |
| 14:19.11 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: do you have a live cd that you can boot to see which driver it uses? |
| 14:19.58 | Miesco | How do I uprgrade from sarge to testing? |
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| 14:20.03 | abrotman | rafiks: check the BTS |
| 14:20.04 | rafiks | hmm...can't even install a thing! |
| 14:20.10 | abrotman | !tell Miesco about sarge->etch |
| 14:20.15 | JimBowen | rafiks: there are already three bugs filed against this prioblem by the looks of it :) |
| 14:20.24 | rafiks | ok ... |
| 14:20.37 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404048 |
| 14:20.38 | rafiks | i hope somebody fixes it soon! |
| 14:20.44 | JimBowen | yeah |
| 14:20.45 | abrotman | !dbugs 404048 |
| 14:20.48 | dpkg | #404048:G[gzip] unstable, gzip, apt-get dist-upgrade - error; Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:33:06 UTC |
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| 14:22.02 | rafiks | i thought they already did a sort of freeze of etch..so maybe there would be more of this coming :-( |
| 14:22.17 | rafiks | hope not... |
| 14:22.23 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you have wireless-tools? |
| 14:22.29 | Miesco | Will I need to restart? |
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| 14:22.32 | abrotman | rafiks: then don't run unstable |
| 14:22.35 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: mm no |
| 14:22.41 | rafiks | Miesco : never restart! |
| 14:22.58 | eduhat | !tell eduhat about sarge->etch |
| 14:22.58 | Miesco | rafiks: Okay, only when I change kernels though right? |
| 14:23.02 | rafiks | abrotman : I can take it |
| 14:23.03 | abrotman | Miesco: yes |
| 14:23.06 | cydork | Miesco: yes |
| 14:23.11 | abrotman | Miesco: your kernel will get upgraded |
| 14:23.21 | abrotman | rafiks: then you would have *started* with the BTS |
| 14:23.48 | JimBowen | abrotman: No, unstable is fine usually.. But a package really shouldn't be submitted if it is as broken as that, even to unstable. :P |
| 14:23.49 | rafiks | Miesco : ow yeah ..change of kernels! |
| 14:23.57 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: in kernel source it says that driver is just the guts of the support for the card |
| 14:24.09 | JimBowen | especially something as vital as gzip :/ |
| 14:24.13 | abrotman | JimBowen: yes .. but you should damn well know where to go to look for preexisting bug reports .. and also how to file them |
| 14:24.20 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: it says you will also need support for pcmcia hermes cards |
| 14:24.29 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: and that you will need Wireless Tools |
| 14:24.45 | Miesco | Kind of excited, etch is going to be totally different with all new upgrades and everything isn't it |
| 14:24.55 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: mm and i ask myself how did it worked during the netinstall |
| 14:25.02 | JimBowen | abrotman: Hey it wasnt me that filed the duplicate bug reports, I merely pointed out their existence. |
| 14:25.18 | abrotman | JimBowen: i meant the guy asking about how to file bugs .. and not looking before filing |
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| 14:25.37 | rafiks | abrotman :So I have no business running unstable ? |
| 14:25.46 | JimBowen | abrotman: Not his fault he didn't know, is it. |
| 14:25.53 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: you must be missing something netinstall was not missing |
| 14:25.54 | abrotman | yes .. it is :) |
| 14:26.05 | abrotman | rafiks: you should know how to file and where to find |
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| 14:26.39 | rafiks | abrotman : ok ..ok..no need to be mad about it .. |
| 14:26.48 | abrotman | i'm not mad |
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| 14:27.00 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: you seem mad to me |
| 14:27.08 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: I've always thought you were mad though |
| 14:27.17 | abrotman | crazy mad .. yes .. angry mad .. no :) |
| 14:27.24 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 14:27.27 | cydork | heh |
| 14:27.42 | eduhat | can anyone help me get my prism2.5 card working with hostap... http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Senao%2FEngenius <--- this shows that i need to use hostap. my card plugs into pcmcia and it is a senao 2511 cd plus ext2 card |
| 14:28.03 | jharrisonwk | more prism2 issues? |
| 14:28.11 | pablo_ | jharrisonwk: yes it is installed the wireless tool |
| 14:28.13 | pablo_ | s |
| 14:28.17 | jharrisonwk | I dont think I need to buy prism2 chipsets |
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| 14:28.26 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: im out of ideas |
| 14:28.34 | eduhat | jharrisonwk: well... i just dont know how. i need to use hostap driver and i just dont know how to set it up |
| 14:28.41 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: I dont use wireless much so I dont know too much about how to make it work |
| 14:28.52 | rafiks | eduhat : you should probably go to #wireless |
| 14:28.53 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: the orinoco card I used before was not prism2 |
| 14:29.03 | eduhat | rafiks: i've asked. no response |
| 14:29.16 | jharrisonwk | pablo_: it was real orinoco card not linksys |
| 14:29.16 | Matsuo | Hey, does someone have a little bit of time to help me out with setting up exim for SMTP auth? I haven't had any luck so far |
| 14:29.31 | jharrisonwk | ew |
| 14:29.35 | rafiks | eduhat : hostap is already in the kernel.. |
| 14:29.47 | abrotman | depending on your kernel |
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| 14:30.05 | eduhat | rafiks: im running 2.6.8-3-386 |
| 14:30.06 | malverian | The Tomcat admin interface in Edgy (tomcat5.5-admin) doesn't appear to work (though the manager webapp works fine). Anyone know a solution/workaround? |
| 14:30.22 | abrotman | malverian: ask #ubuntu |
| 14:30.31 | rafiks | eduhat : does pcmcia tools tell you anything about the card when you insert it? |
| 14:30.32 | malverian | abrotman: Sorry! I meant Etch. |
| 14:30.37 | abrotman | sure you did ... |
| 14:30.43 | jharrisonwk | ditto |
| 14:30.44 | eduhat | rafiks: pcmcia tools? |
| 14:30.47 | malverian | abrotman: No, honestly. I don't even think Ubuntu Etch has tomcat 5.5 |
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| 14:30.55 | abrotman | ubuntu doesn't have etch either |
| 14:31.03 | malverian | abrotman: See.. :-P |
| 14:31.08 | eduhat | rafiks: how do i start that up? |
| 14:31.28 | malverian | abrotman: I confuse my terms. I use Edgy Eft for my workstation and Debian Testing (Etch!!) on several servers. |
| 14:31.43 | malverian | abrotman: Give me a break, it's early and i haven't had my coffee :) |
| 14:31.54 | abrotman | stop drinking that crap! |
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| 14:32.05 | rafiks | eduhat : i think its in pcmciautils package |
| 14:32.17 | malverian | abrotman: I don't, but it's still early. If coffee drinkers have an excuse, I should have one too ;) |
| 14:32.28 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:32.32 | eduhat | rafiks: allright. when i stick the card in will something pop up and tell me whats going on or something? |
| 14:32.34 | malverian | abrotman: I assume you don't know of any problems with the package? |
| 14:32.43 | protocol1 | does booting up in single user mode stop people from using root? |
| 14:32.43 | abrotman | tomcat5.5-admin ? |
| 14:32.51 | rafiks | eduhat : tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 14:32.57 | malverian | abrotman: I looked in the Catalina log and it seems like it can't find the apache commons "Dispatcher" class. |
| 14:33.00 | malverian | abrotman: Yeah. |
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| 14:33.12 | eduhat | rafiks: i just had to restart. its booting back up now so gimme a sec |
| 14:33.13 | malverian | So I assume it's some kind of classpath problem... |
| 14:33.15 | abrotman | problem with your java maybe ? |
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| 14:33.32 | malverian | abrotman: I tried java-gcj as well as sun-java 1.5 (from non-free) |
| 14:33.45 | malverian | java-gcj, tomcat won't even launch at all! |
| 14:34.23 | abrotman | i haven't used tomcat since 4 |
| 14:34.27 | malverian | This is a fresh Etch install by the way, so it seems like these should more or less work out of the box. |
| 14:34.31 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399595 |
| 14:34.46 | eduhat | rafiks: allright. what am i looking for? |
| 14:34.53 | abrotman | that pertains to your GCJ problem i think |
| 14:34.57 | malverian | abrotman: Hmm.. yeah. |
| 14:35.06 | malverian | abrotman: Which makes me think the package maintainer only tests with sun java. |
| 14:35.13 | Miesco | How do I uninstall a .package |
| 14:35.17 | malverian | abrotman: But then the "admin" webapp doesn't work with sun java either. |
| 14:35.17 | abrotman | man apt-get |
| 14:35.28 | abrotman | malverian: there is a #debian-java |
| 14:35.33 | Miesco | abrotman: me? |
| 14:35.36 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: man apt-get wont uninstall the package |
| 14:35.38 | malverian | Hmm, ok. I'll ask there. |
| 14:35.40 | cast | has anyone with an audigy LS [snd_ca0106] got PCM||MASTER volume controls working? |
| 14:35.41 | eduhat | rafiks: the card is recognized under eth1. and its nickname is "Prism 1" so i must be using the orinoco driver. but i need to use hostap. so how would i do that? |
| 14:35.51 | abrotman | malverian: they're on OFTC |
| 14:36.03 | malverian | Ugh. |
| 14:36.10 | malverian | Why don't people just use splitnode? |
| 14:36.25 | jharrisonwk | malverian: a simple /connect irc.debian.org will get you to oftc |
| 14:36.28 | abrotman | ask the irc admins :) |
| 14:36.39 | rafiks | eduhat : you have to compile your own kernel or install a debian kernel |
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| 14:37.32 | abrotman | you could blacklist the orinico .. load the hostap |
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| 14:37.59 | eduhat | rafiks: how can i do that? |
| 14:38.15 | malverian | Ahah! http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402229 |
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| 14:39.02 | rafiks | eduhat : google compiling linux kernel or man apt-get |
| 14:39.26 | ziggy | hi all, I'm a bit new to debian, what file contains the list of installed package ? apt-get crashes on a function "strlen" so maybe my list of package is damaged , I'd like to fix it ... |
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| 14:41.42 | cast | ziggy: does dpkg -l still work? |
| 14:42.06 | abrotman | malverian: i saw that .. didn't think it applied :) |
| 14:42.07 | ziggy | cast, just tested, yes it works |
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| 14:42.38 | abrotman | malverian: and should be fixed already |
| 14:42.40 | Miesco | Hey will mozilla-firefox stop freezing when I get etch? |
| 14:42.55 | abrotman | oh . nm not fixed |
| 14:42.55 | PumpkinPie | anyone use 50+ mbit? |
| 14:43.02 | abrotman | !info firefox etch |
| 14:43.12 | dpkg | firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2 (etch), Packaged size: 7799 kB, Installed size: 23716 kB |
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| 14:43.48 | iturk | hi my friends i am trying to run a script (using sh ./run) with some simple commands like cd blabla !! i am getting ./run: ./run: cannot execute binary file !! which permission should i give to the file in order to be able to execute it ?? |
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| 14:43.59 | Miesco | abrotman: So yes it will |
| 14:44.00 | abrotman | +x |
| 14:44.04 | malverian | abrotman: experimental != testing ? |
| 14:44.05 | abrotman | Miesco: i guess |
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| 14:44.15 | abrotman | malverian: no .. but look at the version numbers |
| 14:44.25 | iturk | abrotman: so chmod +x run it will handle the situation ??! |
| 14:44.26 | Miesco | Yay |
| 14:44.45 | ziggy | cast, apparently dselect still works too, but when I try to update with it, there's a crash (but dselect continues afterward) |
| 14:44.48 | Miesco | This is going to change my life, dont know why I didn't upgrade to etch before (It was because no one told me to) |
| 14:45.13 | malverian | abrotman: Hmm.. it's not fixed in the version in testing (I just did an upgrade). Adding those lines to the policy.d file fixed the problem though. |
| 14:45.23 | abrotman | okay |
| 14:45.28 | abrotman | problem sovled .. carry on! |
| 14:45.36 | malverian | woot! |
| 14:45.44 | jharrisonwk | woot? |
| 14:45.49 | jharrisonwk | root? |
| 14:45.51 | Miesco | So how long does it take to upgrade all packages to the etch version |
| 14:45.54 | jharrisonwk | hoot? |
| 14:45.59 | jharrisonwk | !woot |
| 14:45.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, woot is an expression of joy. Also spelled w00t. |
| 14:46.02 | cast | ziggy: you know...aptitude is a dropin replacement for apt-get, butt yeah. i have nfi how to fix your problem :\ |
| 14:46.08 | abrotman | Miesco: depends how many you have |
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| 14:46.43 | Miesco | abrotman: I dont get this, if I have a app open, then I upgrade, how is it still open, didn't that version get deleted? |
| 14:46.58 | abrotman | Miesco: resident in memory |
| 14:47.13 | cast | Miesco: neat hey? :) |
| 14:47.13 | Miesco | abrotman: Okay |
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| 14:47.18 | Miesco | cast: Yes |
| 14:47.26 | blondie | well |
| 14:47.30 | blondie | irssi wins at that |
| 14:47.34 | enouf | tardy even |
| 14:47.38 | ubinsp | Bonjour les gens Hello world |
| 14:47.39 | blondie | you can upgrade to the new version without quitting :P |
| 14:47.43 | cast | can remove your kernel and not have issues, unless you need to load a module or somesuch |
| 14:47.43 | blondie | !fr |
| 14:47.43 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:47.44 | ziggy | cast, what is the difference between dselect, apt-get, aptitude and dpkg ? I mean which use which ? which is compltely indepent of the other ? |
| 14:48.00 | abrotman | cast: yes |
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| 14:48.08 | ubinsp | ohohoh blondie tu es rapide |
| 14:48.12 | ubinsp | ;) |
| 14:48.12 | ziggy | when I type "aptitude" I get the same segmentation fault :/ |
| 14:48.15 | kspath | Miesco: exit and start it again and it will be the updated version |
| 14:48.23 | enouf | cast: you forgot synaptic and kpackage manager |
| 14:48.26 | Miesco | Yea I found that out |
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| 14:48.34 | blondie | ubinsp: oui je suis |
| 14:48.35 | enouf | er ziggy I mean .. doh! |
| 14:48.39 | cast | enouf: booo @ x |
| 14:48.55 | eduhat | rafiks: when i download the kernel am i supposed to be downloading a patch? |
| 14:49.01 | Miesco | Well testing crash less then stable? |
| 14:49.04 | Miesco | will* |
| 14:49.11 | enouf | !tell ziggy about mmap |
| 14:49.13 | x_link | Hi |
| 14:49.16 | x_link | I have some problems |
| 14:49.20 | kombi__ | there's this thing udevd in the process list suddenly, I don't remember putting it there, what does it do? |
| 14:49.25 | x_link | I had this problem the first time I installed Debian as well. |
| 14:49.32 | enouf | x_link: what else is new :-) |
| 14:49.33 | ubinsp | Well I want to install a paquet from debian testing to Ubuntu 6.10, How can I do ? The problem is the dependencies. The paquet is gnomemeeting 1.2.3-7 |
| 14:49.40 | x_link | I must run alsaconf. |
| 14:49.46 | Coke | Is there any software in Debian that can connect with video stream to MSN clients? |
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| 14:50.04 | Miesco | Coke: Doesn't amsn? |
| 14:50.06 | x_link | The thing is this, I get this wierd light annoying sound from my speakers. I tried other speakers and I get the same sound on them. |
| 14:50.07 | ubinsp | Coke: gnomemeeting |
| 14:50.27 | kombi__ | ubinsp: #ubunto might be a better place to ask |
| 14:50.28 | Coke | Miesco: amsn? |
| 14:50.28 | enouf | oh my goodness ... please .. where are the ubuntu promoters when you need them |
| 14:50.28 | x_link | I'm using a onboard soundcard. |
| 14:50.28 | cast | Miesco: who can tell, depends why stable crashed for you i nthe first place. testing has more unresolved release critical bugs, obviously |
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| 14:50.28 | Coke | ubinsp: I thought it was a softphone for SIP use |
| 14:50.31 | x_link | When I run alsaconf it found 3 different soundcards. |
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| 14:51.01 | x_link | I tried the other soundcard, when I did alsaconf. But when I want to play music it doesn't work. That grey window comes up and tells me that things are not properly configured. |
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| 14:51.17 | kombi__ | can I safely kill udevd? |
| 14:51.23 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: why? |
| 14:51.32 | ziggy | I'm lost, both apt-get and aptitude crashes :/ |
| 14:51.36 | hackeron | hey, can I use apt to verify system integrity (i.e. that binary files weren't altered, etc)? |
| 14:51.42 | ubinsp | Coke: I think sure that gnomemeeting can do it with Netmeeting, msn I'm not sure |
| 14:51.47 | jharrisonwk | hackeron: aide |
| 14:51.48 | cydork | hackeron: check debsums |
| 14:51.49 | ziggy | enouf, thanks for the idea, but it didn't fix it :/ |
| 14:51.49 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: the lesser the better (lpd, rpc.statd, portmap etc) |
| 14:51.58 | Miesco | Coke: Yea apt-get install amsn |
| 14:51.58 | Coke | ubinsp: as I suspected, it requires me to type either a sip or h323. |
| 14:51.58 | enouf | !tell ziggy about sig11 |
| 14:52.06 | Coke | Miesco: will do! |
| 14:52.08 | hackeron | jharrisonwk: is that a no? |
| 14:52.10 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: I would not kill udevd if I was you |
| 14:52.17 | enouf | !tell ziggy about memtest86 |
| 14:52.20 | jharrisonwk | hackeron: check debsums |
| 14:52.20 | x_link | http://pastebin.ca/287499 |
| 14:52.21 | Coke | Miesco: oh, it's a fairly new package. |
| 14:52.24 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: who or what is it for? |
| 14:52.27 | x_link | enouf: I get that when I run alsaconf |
| 14:52.36 | Miesco | Coke: version 0.96 just came out if you have etch |
| 14:52.37 | ziggy | enouf, nah, my memory is working fin,e everything else but package installement is working fine on my computer |
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| 14:52.46 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: never had it running on any other box.. |
| 14:52.48 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: udev controls /dev device files |
| 14:52.50 | Coke | Miesco: yep, etch is my thjing. |
| 14:52.55 | enouf | x_link: I can't help with thast .. there are too many variables .. apologies mi amigo |
| 14:52.55 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: if you kill it you have problems |
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| 14:52.58 | yos87 | hi |
| 14:53.05 | hackeron | cydork: thanks, trying debsums |
| 14:53.07 | ubinsp | Coke: Yes You may type callto:IPadressofyourcorrespondant |
| 14:53.08 | Miesco | Coke: Im just upgrading to etch so amsn can upgrade and stuff |
| 14:53.12 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: udev is new |
| 14:53.19 | x_link | enouf: Ok |
| 14:53.24 | Coke | ubinsp: as if the avarage MSN-user knows what IP is. |
| 14:53.34 | yos87 | I install debian, But i don't have the synpatic package manager, and other alot of tools, I don't know why! , how to install the syna |
| 14:53.41 | azeem | !installit |
| 14:53.41 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 14:53.42 | ubinsp | Coke: ;) |
| 14:53.42 | ziggy | enouf, the error is reproductible, that is it always crash on the same "strlen" call somewhere, which make me think that one config file somwhere is damaged, and it triggers a bug in apt-get |
| 14:53.42 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: ok..! like kernel 2.6.18 new or sth? |
| 14:53.43 | yos87 | patic package manager and the other tools |
| 14:53.56 | yos87 | azeem: it's not appear in apt cache |
| 14:53.56 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: and etch new |
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| 14:54.11 | azeem | yos87: what command exactly did you run? |
| 14:54.12 | kombi__ | thanks jharrisonwk! |
| 14:54.13 | Coke | Miesco: yep. |
| 14:54.16 | Coke | ubinsp: amsn |
| 14:54.17 | yos87 | azeem: what about the oher tools? networking for example? |
| 14:54.21 | Coke | It's just as crappy as the original MSN client |
| 14:54.30 | Coke | a lot of bullshit that no serious user would ever consider useful ;) |
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| 14:54.31 | kombi__ | ..I'll keep it running then ;) |
| 14:54.32 | yos87 | azeem: apt-cache search package manager |
| 14:54.33 | ubinsp | Coke: OK |
| 14:54.36 | enouf | x_link: i'll look anyway .. if I can think of anything .. I'll let ya know .. you may have 'artsd' constantly running .. or OSS modules loading or not .. or .. 3 sound cards trying to use the same interface :-P |
| 14:54.56 | azeem | yos87: castor~$ apt-cache search package manager | grep syna |
| 14:54.56 | azeem | synaptic - Graphical package manager |
| 14:55.00 | ubinsp | So no one wants helps me :( |
| 14:55.08 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: it is in sarge I think but not installed by default |
| 14:55.14 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: good idea |
| 14:55.17 | ubinsp | So no one wants to help me :( |
| 14:55.34 | x_link | enouf: Okey. Should I take out one of them? |
| 14:55.42 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: indeed.., I installed kernel-2.6.18 last night so I was wondering.. |
| 14:56.11 | yos87 | azeem: no out put |
| 14:56.33 | cast | hmm. short question, this time: If i boot from a 32bit live cd, and want to chroot to my 64bit install. bash wont load, but will a statically linked shell work? |
| 14:57.22 | yos87 | azeem: I have all the 14 cd's in the sources.list, what to do? |
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| 14:57.23 | azeem | yos87: how did you add them? |
| 14:57.23 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: debian's kernel? |
| 14:57.33 | yos87 | azeem: he ask me wile installing |
| 14:57.43 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: no, had to roll my own (smp, fuse etc) |
| 14:57.49 | azeem | yos87: 14 cds of sarge? |
| 14:57.53 | yos87 | yes |
| 14:57.54 | yos87 | 14 |
| 14:58.03 | azeem | yos87: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say? |
| 14:58.44 | jharrisonwk | kombi__: well you dont have to use udev but its the way of the future it seems so you probably should leave it be |
| 14:58.48 | yos87 | azeem: ii lic6 2.3.2.dsl-22 gnu c library: shared libraries and time zone |
| 14:59.00 | ziggy | so, who could tell me where apt-get or aptitude keeps their list of installed package ? is that in /var/lib/apt/extended_states ? |
| 14:59.01 | azeem | ok |
| 14:59.31 | kombi__ | jharrisonwk: I figure that too (did some reading in the meantime), wo welcome to my process list, udevd! |
| 14:59.36 | azeem | yos87: apt-cache show synaptic does not return information? |
| 14:59.39 | kombi__ | s/wo/so |
| 14:59.47 | kspath | netinstall is nice |
| 15:00.05 | yos87 | azeem: no |
| 15:00.06 | yos87 | nothing |
| 15:00.10 | azeem | yos87: no idea then |
| 15:00.20 | azeem | yos87: maybe use apt-cdrom add again for the first two cds |
| 15:00.21 | yos87 | azeem: thank you for help |
| 15:00.22 | azeem | it should be on there |
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| 15:00.54 | Madeye | guys, I'm trying to know my RAM type if it's DD or SD, how can I know that |
| 15:00.59 | yos87 | azeem: what about the networking tools was appear before in the menu? how to get it ? what the command? |
| 15:01.08 | azeem | yos87: what networking tools? |
| 15:01.11 | jharrisonwk | Madeye: look in the machine? |
| 15:01.21 | azeem | yos87: also, ask unrelated follow-up questions to the channel, not individuals |
| 15:01.34 | Madeye | jharrisonwk, it's closed laptop and I don't want to lose the warranty |
| 15:01.52 | azeem | Madeye: why do you need to know? |
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| 15:02.00 | ziggy | ok found it, it's in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 15:02.02 | yos87 | azeem: before there was in menu settings networktools you can make or add network connection in graphic mode , it's not here now |
| 15:02.17 | Madeye | azeem, because I want to do upgrade |
| 15:02.26 | azeem | yos87: no idea what you're talking about, this looks specific to some desktop environment or window manager |
| 15:02.27 | Madeye | azeem, does it really matter? |
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| 15:02.29 | jharrisonwk | Madeye: maybe cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 15:02.33 | rafiks | Madeye : search the model of laptop in google |
| 15:02.56 | cypher1 | is there any critical bug in gnome-screensaver 2.17.* ? |
| 15:02.58 | Madeye | azeem, rafiks so you are telling me there is no way to get such information while running linux? |
| 15:03.02 | yos87 | azeem: thank you |
| 15:03.17 | rafiks | Madeye : not that i know of .. |
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| 15:03.49 | rafiks | Madeye : does windows tell you? |
| 15:04.10 | Madeye | rafiks, yes |
| 15:04.15 | cydork | Madeye: did you try dmidecode? |
| 15:04.31 | cydork | i am not sure if it will help though. |
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| 15:06.31 | scenestar | could anyone please help me set up qmail with qadmin and vpopmail |
| 15:06.36 | rafiks | cydork : yeah,,dmidecodedoes it.. |
| 15:06.38 | scenestar | ive been at war with it for 2 weeks now |
| 15:06.43 | ubinsp | Well I want to install a paquet from debian testing to Ubuntu 6.10, How can I do ? The problem is the dependencies. The paquet is gnomemeeting 1.2.3-7 |
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| 15:06.46 | scenestar | read every doc, etc etc |
| 15:06.49 | Madeye | cydork, lshw does it :-) Thank you :-) |
| 15:06.53 | eduhat | can someone please help me config my kernel? |
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| 15:06.57 | scenestar | ubinsp #ubuntu |
| 15:07.07 | opqdonut | how can i install an older version of a package? |
| 15:07.09 | scenestar | no ubuntu crap here |
| 15:07.20 | yos87 | azeem: no , it was coming alone after the installation |
| 15:07.25 | rafiks | opqdonut : pin it |
| 15:07.25 | scenestar | or get a real distro like debian isntead of some crappy fork |
| 15:07.33 | Eulex | ubinsp, the answer is: you don't. if you nevertheless try, you're asking for trouble. |
| 15:07.40 | ubinsp | Could you tell me how to download the source (*.tar.gz) of gnomemeeting 1.2.3-7 of Debian Testing |
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| 15:07.43 | opqdonut | rafiks: /etc/apt/pin or? |
| 15:07.46 | scenestar | ubinsp |
| 15:07.48 | scenestar | go away |
| 15:07.51 | scenestar | wrong channel |
| 15:07.54 | sewi | hello, anybody succeed to upgrade debian unstable today? I cannot upgrade on 2 computers because of gzip problems, any ideas? |
| 15:07.55 | ubinsp | with the dependant packets |
| 15:08.14 | scenestar | !dpkg ubinsp ubuntu |
| 15:08.24 | kspath | scenestar: have you considered asking a qmail irc channel? |
| 15:08.27 | rafiks | man apt-get look for pin section |
| 15:08.34 | scenestar | kspath where can i find that :P |
| 15:08.37 | cydork | !btssmite sewi |
| 15:08.48 | rafiks | dpkg: hehehehe! |
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| 15:09.48 | JamieCope | hello. How could I see the version of the packages that apt-cache search returns? |
| 15:10.00 | ubinsp | I know that you dislike the word ubuntu but you can tell me how to retrieve a packet of Debian Testing with the dependent packets, no? |
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| 15:10.04 | rafiks | apt-cache policy |
| 15:10.05 | cydork | JamieCope: use aptitude search ;) |
| 15:10.06 | scenestar | JamieCope try aptitude |
| 15:10.11 | scenestar | ubinsp no |
| 15:10.13 | scenestar | now go away |
| 15:10.25 | rafiks | JamieCope: apt-cache policy |
| 15:11.16 | rafiks | ubinsp : ahh ,,whats a packet? |
| 15:11.59 | azeem | rafiks: please stop mocking people for their spelling |
| 15:12.15 | ubinsp | debhelper: I think scenestar is sectarian |
| 15:12.26 | rafiks | azeem: i'm not mocking |
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| 15:13.04 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 15:13.04 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is based on debian. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu . Thanks :) |
| 15:13.23 | Eulex | debhelper is a bot... |
| 15:13.35 | rafiks | !ubuntu |
| 15:13.35 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is based on debian. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu . Thanks :) |
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| 15:13.48 | RememberPOL | What is the .egg file extension used for? |
| 15:13.49 | rafiks | yeah it really is.. |
| 15:14.03 | rafiks | .eggdrop maybe? |
| 15:14.08 | blondie | eggs |
| 15:14.18 | RememberPOL | Yes and what are they |
| 15:14.25 | Eulex | eggs? :) |
| 15:14.26 | JamieCope | erm aptitude only shows "tomcat5". I would like to know more specific, like 5.5.20 or some other version ... |
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| 15:14.46 | rafiks | JamieCope : apt-cache policy |
| 15:14.49 | RememberPOL | Yes files distributed with the .egg extension. |
| 15:14.52 | RememberPOL | What are they. |
| 15:14.59 | Flimzy | My company mantains two DNS servers for our domain... one for local use, that resolves hostnames to 172.17.x.x addresses... and one for external use that resolves the same hostnames to world-reachable IP addresses. This seems to me like a stupid idea... But is it really? I'd like to convince management to change it, and probably use an internal domain name (internal.company.com, for instance) for the internal-only hostnames... But is there actually a " |
| 15:14.59 | Flimzy | good" reason to do this, other than to reduce my annoyance? |
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| 15:15.08 | JamieCope | rafiks, what should i do with policy? i don't have the package installed |
| 15:15.09 | RememberPOL | !egg |
| 15:15.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, egg is what you find in phpinfo() on April Fool's Day Chicken embryo. |
| 15:15.11 | RememberPOL | !.egg |
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| 15:15.17 | abrotman | ask google |
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| 15:15.25 | yos87 | azeem: there is the # mark in all lines in sources.list |
| 15:15.29 | RememberPOL | It's not that simple. |
| 15:15.41 | abrotman | yes it is .. google ".egg extension" |
| 15:15.45 | cast | RememberPOL: file *.egg says what? |
| 15:15.48 | azeem | yos87: so that's why |
| 15:15.53 | abrotman | RememberPOL: and what does this have to do with debian ? |
| 15:16.11 | yos87 | azeem: but why he put # ? |
| 15:16.11 | rafiks | JamieCope : type apt-cache policy <package> |
| 15:16.25 | nokrev | I'm trying to use sid for the first time, and my upgrade was working fine, until it tried to upgrade gzip. It seems (from a bit of debugging) that install-info doesn't see START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY in /usr/share/info/gzip.info.gz… :/ |
| 15:16.26 | azeem | yos87: I don't know, probably it was not the installer |
| 15:16.38 | abrotman | nokrev: it's a known bug |
| 15:16.39 | rafiks | nokrev : hehehe |
| 15:16.48 | RememberPOL | ahh |
| 15:16.51 | nokrev | abrotman: alright, that's good... how do I avoid it? |
| 15:16.52 | JamieCope | rafiks, as i said, i don't have the package installed! |
| 15:16.53 | RememberPOL | it's a python package ty |
| 15:16.53 | rafiks | nokrev :watch out! |
| 15:16.58 | abrotman | nokrev: don't run sid |
| 15:17.03 | nokrev | fair enough |
| 15:17.04 | JamieCope | so the result i get is: W: Unable to locate package tomcat |
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| 15:17.11 | abrotman | nokrev: things break in sid .. |
| 15:17.17 | rafiks | JamieCope : ican still do it without the package installed |
| 15:17.30 | scenestar | nokrev : you do realise its called unstable for a reason |
| 15:17.32 | ubinsp | dpkg: thank you for your help and your "mise en garde", but I still want to try to compile the source of the gnomemeeting 1.2.3-7 .deb, so if you can give me the command line to download them, it will be very nice |
| 15:17.32 | dpkg | ubinsp: bitte |
| 15:17.32 | yos87 | azeem: I sould make apt-get update after finish? |
| 15:17.35 | nokrev | I figured they would, but also guessed that I would be able to install it, at least. Guess I'll go back to etch. I was just trying it… |
| 15:17.38 | azeem | yes |
| 15:17.41 | Matsuo | Is there someone here who can help me out with SMTP-auth on exim4? |
| 15:17.48 | rafiks | JamieCope : apt-cache policy tomcat5 |
| 15:17.48 | scenestar | Matsuo |
| 15:17.51 | nokrev | Yeah, I completely understand. :) |
| 15:17.53 | scenestar | what is you exact problem |
| 15:17.58 | scenestar | and what is your version? |
| 15:18.15 | yos87 | azeem: it give error sarge / main not found ! should I delete all lines and make apt-setup again? |
| 15:18.17 | blondie | ubinsp: you don't need to talk to the bots like that. |
| 15:18.43 | azeem | yos87: why do you ask me? |
| 15:18.47 | azeem | ask the channel |
| 15:19.06 | JamieCope | oh yes. the 5 did it. thanks. But is really 5.0.30 the latest version of tomcat in testing/release? |
| 15:19.22 | yos87 | azeem: sorry, anywho, don't answer if you feel disturb OK |
| 15:19.24 | abrotman | !info tomcat5.5 etch |
| 15:19.28 | sewi | nokrev: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=404048 |
| 15:19.32 | dpkg | tomcat5.5: (Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support), section web, is optional. Version: 5.5.20-2 (etch), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 356 kB |
| 15:19.46 | nokrev | sewi: thank you very much. :) |
| 15:19.50 | Matsuo | scenestar: I can't seem to get it to configure at all, I believe it's version 4.50-8sarge2 |
| 15:19.58 | scenestar | aye |
| 15:20.16 | scenestar | did you try any of the guides on the intertubes? |
| 15:20.28 | Matsuo | intertubes? Never heard of it |
| 15:20.52 | abrotman | it's a joke |
| 15:21.23 | JamieCope | oh an apt-get update did it. thanks |
| 15:21.23 | blondie | bless you |
| 15:21.26 | Matsuo | Nice lego truck.. :P |
| 15:21.54 | scenestar | Matsuo , ive been at war with email for the past 2 weeks |
| 15:22.01 | scenestar | its a complete *bitch* |
| 15:22.56 | Matsuo | I've tried a couple of tutorials and haven't had any luck... I've now had exim v3, now version 4 running for years, but I've NEVER been able to get SMTP auth to work and it's really annoying cause I can recieve email, but have to log into the server itself to send any |
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| 15:25.08 | kspath | Matsuo, have you tried the exim irc channel? |
| 15:25.20 | zygentoma | hi |
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| 15:25.43 | Matsuo | Yea, no one talks there..... |
| 15:26.38 | kspath | hehehe |
| 15:27.07 | fireba11 | Matsuo: uhm .. smtp auth is dead easy |
| 15:27.26 | fireba11 | Matsuo: the debian package got everythign already defined and just commented out in the config |
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| 15:27.55 | JamieCope | !info axis etch |
| 15:28.10 | JamieCope | hmm odd |
| 15:28.15 | ubinsp | AhrAsyL: bonjour |
| 15:28.30 | AhrAsyL | bonjour ^_^ |
| 15:28.57 | kspath | I have not touched exim for a while now maybe I should set one up every couple of months so I can answer questions about it |
| 15:29.06 | fireba11 | hehe |
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| 15:29.28 | Matsuo | fireba11: Alright... where do I uncomment in what file? Cause I've NEVER been able to get it working... All I want it to do is take usernames/passwords and if they pass send mail to anywhere.. |
| 15:29.31 | ghatak | What is the keyboard shortcut to switch workplaces or desktops ? |
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| 15:29.59 | kspath | Matsuo, are you sure you read FAQs and docs? |
| 15:30.13 | ubinsp | AhrAsyL: bon je vois que certains sont un peu spéciaux ici; sais tu comment fr pour importer les sources d'un paquet avec ses dépendances dans le pool de Debian testing? |
| 15:30.18 | Matsuo | Yea, completely not helpful... I tried to follow them and smtpauth never worked |
| 15:30.46 | fireba11 | Matsuo: what type of auth you need ? system suers ? db ? |
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| 15:31.17 | Matsuo | system users would be fine, if I could do both it'd be cool, but I'll just settle for system users with their system password for now |
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| 15:32.07 | kspath | Matsuo, so you do not need to auth against LDAP or oracle/postgresql/mysql or anything like that? |
| 15:32.14 | AhrAsyL | ubinsp > peux pas t'aider... je n'utilise pas debian ;) Je suis sur le chan en touriste, pour suivre le dev |
| 15:32.21 | kspath | !fr |
| 15:32.21 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:32.30 | AhrAsyL | ubinsp > desole :P |
| 15:32.35 | fireba11 | Matsuo /etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples with split config |
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| 15:33.19 | ubinsp | OK AhrAsyL |
| 15:34.07 | Matsuo | fireba11 Am I tryint to do the login_saslauthd_server one? |
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| 15:34.42 | kspath | Matsuo, how many others do you see? |
| 15:35.16 | Matsuo | 12 or 13 |
| 15:35.19 | fireba11 | Matsuo i'm using plain_server and login_server ... i had ssl enabled though so all communication si encrypted anyway so no need for an encrypted login |
| 15:36.16 | fireba11 | Matsuo: note that at the end of the file you need to enable non-encrypted password over non-encrypted line if you really want that, that si disable for good reasons normally |
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| 15:36.51 | fireba11 | Matsuo: my case is special because from outside only ssl connects possible anyway and from local lan unencrypted is acceptable |
| 15:36.55 | ubinsp | In Debian, what is the command line to download a specific package source with if possible, all the package source dependencies? Example: gnomemeeting 1.2.3-7 in Debian Testing. |
| 15:37.41 | Matsuo | fireba11: I just enabled login_saslauthd_server and tried it, now the client (Thunderbird) is giving me 'relay not permitted' when I try to send to something outside of the server |
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| 15:38.02 | fireba11 | Matsuo: you told thunderbird it needs to auth ? |
| 15:38.12 | rafiks | ubinsp : apt-get source |
| 15:38.30 | rafiks | ubinsp : apt-get build-deps |
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| 15:38.55 | Matsuo | fireba11: Yea.. have it set to use name and password |
| 15:39.09 | fireba11 | Matsuo: for smtp too ? that's extra .. |
| 15:39.27 | ubinsp | thank you Mr rafiks |
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| 15:40.06 | Matsuo | fireba11: Alright.. lemmie try with that turned off then, one moment |
| 15:40.20 | Matsuo | Same error. |
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| 15:42.06 | Miesco | Damb I got this while upgrading to etch |
| 15:42.19 | Miesco | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.20 | Miesco | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.20 | Miesco | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.20 | Miesco | Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]? |
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| 15:42.55 | Miesco | So I said no, dont delete the kernel and I got: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:43.00 | Matsuo | fireba11: Any typs? Still didn't work |
| 15:43.09 | fireba11 | Matsuo use telnet to figure out if the server advertises auth at all |
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| 15:43.22 | ubinsp | rafiks: the second command will download the dependencies or will make a sort of "make && make install" ? I only wish to download the sources, without compiling anything. |
| 15:43.22 | Miesco | Does it change your kernel when you go from sarge to etch? |
| 15:43.38 | fireba11 | Matsuo there are nice guides out there with steps to figure out what went wrong |
| 15:43.45 | kspath | Miesco, I hope so |
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| 15:44.19 | Miesco | kspath: It wants to remove: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686, should I let it? |
| 15:44.31 | kspath | go with defaults when it doubt |
| 15:44.41 | Miesco | kspath: I do, and it aborts |
| 15:44.45 | wireddd | why did firefox 2.0 never make it into etch? |
| 15:44.54 | shadowarts | im experiencing problems with stunnel4 on debian, whenever a client tries to connect to the host the stunnel on the host segfaults, dont understand why |
| 15:45.28 | Miesco | kspath: It said if you want to hose your system choose yes |
| 15:45.34 | kspath | Miesco, sorry I have not had that ever happen to me that I remember so I have no idea where to go from there |
| 15:45.56 | Miesco | Well i'll do it I guess |
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| 15:46.03 | kspath | Miesco, I stick with stable in debian |
| 15:46.41 | kspath | Miesco, I only had issues with testing when I tried it had vim all broken for days until I switched back to stable |
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| 15:47.09 | kspath | Miesco, I hope you have backups of all your important/useful data before you do anything risky like update to testing from stable |
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| 15:47.35 | Miesco | kspath: Nah |
| 15:47.43 | Miesco | Um but Here i'll try to paste it on one line |
| 15:47.45 | Miesco | You are running a kernel (version 2.6.8-2-686) and attempting to remove the same version. This is a potentially disastrous action. Not only will /boot vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686 be removed, making it impossible to boot it, (you will have to take action to change your boot loader to boot a new kernel), it will also remove all modules under the directory /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686. Just having a copy of the kernel image is not enough, you |
| 15:48.07 | amphi | Miesco: it shouldn't interfere with the sarge kernel at all AFAIK |
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| 15:48.33 | Miesco | amphi: Well in order to proceed with the upgrade I need to choose yes aparently |
| 15:48.57 | Miesco | Im just going to choose yes |
| 15:49.08 | amphi | Miesco: strange; I did sarge->etch not very long ago, and it did nothing like that |
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| 15:51.25 | kspath | !testing |
| 15:51.26 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 15:51.52 | kspath | !sid |
| 15:51.52 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 15:53.17 | roe_ | when I do an du -sh * on /home it shows my home dir using 622M but when I go into the dir nothing more than 10M is in there |
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| 15:54.15 | fireba11 | roe_ i doubt that |
| 15:54.48 | amphi | I guess we wait for Miesco to time out now ;) |
| 15:55.03 | fireba11 | amphi: yup |
| 15:55.22 | blondie | how do you get something to run when you login to X? (I want bbkeys to start when I login and blackbox loads) |
| 15:55.23 | Miesco | lol |
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| 15:55.44 | amphi | blondie: stick it in your ~/.xsession ? |
| 15:55.55 | fireba11 | oooo ... he's still alive |
| 15:55.55 | roe_ | fireba11: it is entirely possible I am mising something but take a look for yourself |
| 15:55.56 | roe_ | http://pastebin.ca/287563 |
| 15:56.00 | amphi | fireba11: heh |
| 15:56.14 | blondie | hmm |
| 15:56.21 | fireba11 | roe_: try doing an du -sh .* |
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| 15:56.51 | roe_ | fireba11: and there it is |
| 15:56.52 | roe_ | thanx |
| 15:56.55 | fireba11 | :-) |
| 15:56.55 | webland | sera |
| 15:57.11 | secher | Ok, I have a remote system I can't get to. I want to essentially start over with the system, remove /everything/ that is not necessary to the basic operation of the system, however when I remove packages using purge, I still get artifacts, lots of them. Is there some more draconian method to remove packages, or some method to go through the whole upgrade process again, and have Debian remove everything that's not neccessary f |
| 15:57.11 | secher | or the packages I select? |
| 15:57.17 | secher | whoops. sorry. |
| 15:57.26 | secher | that's not necessary for the packaged I select? |
| 15:57.33 | webland | !list |
| 15:57.33 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to webland |
| 15:57.33 | CHodapp | grrrr...anything I can do for a program that is thrashing like crazy, so much that I can't log in by SSH or switch to a VT to kill it? |
| 15:57.43 | webland | -.- |
| 15:57.47 | fireba11 | secher: you can just reinstall it :-) and yes, that is possible remotely |
| 15:57.47 | webland | io italy |
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| 15:58.13 | secher | fireball: where do I look to learn how? |
| 15:58.20 | Ronin | webland: now what makes you thinkdoing a !list command here was smart? |
| 15:58.34 | amphi | CHodapp: you can kill everything on the vt with alt-sysrq-k if nothing else |
| 15:58.38 | webland | no komprend |
| 15:58.50 | fireba11 | secher see http://www.goudkov.com/public/articles/changing_distro.jsp |
| 15:58.53 | blondie | webland: english please |
| 15:59.00 | webland | no no |
| 15:59.00 | Ronin | !it |
| 15:59.00 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C' anche il canale #linux-it l. |
| 15:59.01 | webland | italy |
| 15:59.03 | secher | fireball: far out, thanks man. |
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| 15:59.28 | webland | grazie |
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| 15:59.59 | secher | what's a <bang>list do? |
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| 16:00.09 | Ronin | secher: warez command for shariing files |
| 16:00.19 | yos87 | I add a PCIMCIA wireless network, how to setup my network through this card? |
| 16:00.20 | webland | xdcc list? |
| 16:00.22 | webland | noo |
| 16:00.26 | secher | Ronin: thanks. |
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| 16:04.20 | tictac | anyone here use root-tail normally? im having issues with the height option |
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| 16:05.54 | tictac | the -g 1010+1+670 works, but its really long. so if i do a 1010+1+670+50, root-tail goes back to the center of the screen with default dimensions. :( |
| 16:06.07 | raf256 | how can I tell given program to install into a chroot? or into a given directory? |
| 16:06.21 | azeem | raf256: via apt-get? |
| 16:06.32 | raf256 | azeem: yes, via apt-get |
| 16:06.41 | amphi | tictac: I use it here - what problem? |
| 16:06.43 | azeem | raf256: you cannot |
| 16:06.47 | azeem | it is not supported |
| 16:06.51 | raf256 | tictac: wasnt the suntax 100x100+200x200 ? |
| 16:06.59 | raf256 | azeem: any other way? |
| 16:07.15 | raf256 | azeem: but I can create a chroot ~/test/ and install program there right? |
| 16:07.41 | tictac | raf256: whoops. |
| 16:07.42 | schme | raf256: if you have apt on the chroot, sure |
| 16:07.47 | raf256 | azeem: can I apt-get source, then change something then rebuild and reinstall? |
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| 16:07.55 | DimmuR | raf256, you can download source via apt-src and recompile it witch changed directory |
| 16:07.59 | amphi | raf256: yeah, standard X geometry argument |
| 16:08.39 | tictac | !lart tictac |
| 16:08.47 | anapivirtua_ | Hello world |
| 16:09.40 | Miesco | I dont think this is going very good |
| 16:09.50 | Miesco | Now everything is getting removed |
| 16:09.54 | raf256 | how can I install a program as a user and for myself only? assuming I dont have noexec on my home |
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| 16:10.25 | raf256 | after apt-get source foo and applying my changes how to build&install a program? |
| 16:10.40 | Flimzy | Is there a Debian Kerberos howto somewhere that eludes google? |
| 16:10.57 | schme | raf256: install it somewhere in ~ , and chmod it |
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| 16:11.44 | ghatak | Any idea what are the copy and paste shortcut keys for MGT (Multi Gnome Terminal) |
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| 16:11.47 | amphi | Miesco: download an etch netinstall iso and burn it while you still can ;) |
| 16:11.50 | giacus | hello all |
| 16:11.50 | raf256 | schme: how exacly? say I want to install mc in my ~ |
| 16:11.59 | azeem | raf256: it depends on the program, try to set the $prefix to somewhere under your home |
| 16:12.13 | azeem | raf256: there is no general way, it depends on the build system of the package in question |
| 16:12.16 | raf256 | hmm |
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| 16:12.31 | Miesco | amphi: Nah, I think its alright |
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| 16:12.38 | giacus | how to copy /home/user/*.* to another /backup/dir including all subdirectory ? |
| 16:12.44 | raf256 | after I did apt-get source mc and applyed changes, how to install the mc in system? |
| 16:12.52 | azeem | raf256: you can /try/ to manually extract a .deb somewhere under your home, and run the program from there, but that likely fails |
| 16:12.56 | azeem | and is, again, not supported |
| 16:13.00 | jelly | Hi, when rebuildnig a kernel with make-kpkg, I want to update the --revision but without recompiling it all... is it enough to edit debian/changelog? |
| 16:13.06 | amphi | Miesco: it should not remove your old kernel on dist-upgrade AFAIK |
| 16:13.11 | giacus | cp -R seems do not work |
| 16:13.13 | azeem | raf256: what do you mean with "in system"? |
| 16:13.35 | raf256 | azeem: /usr |
| 16:13.54 | Miesco | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 16:13.56 | azeem | raf256: build a modified .deb and use dpkg/apt-get as usualy |
| 16:14.08 | Miesco | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:14.09 | schme | raf256: I imagine most source comes with a good README or INSTALL to read. Most of the time you set $prefix with ./configure or edit the makefile |
| 16:14.13 | Miesco | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.20 | Space_ | hi |
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| 16:14.56 | raf256 | schme: no. I ment how to just install it. its separated question from the isntall dir guestion |
| 16:15.06 | schme | raf256: also you can create a dir in ~ and chroot to it and install a complete debiansystem there, and adding ~/foo/usr/bin to your $PATH . |
| 16:15.16 | schme | raf256: I have no idea how to install mc from the debian sources. |
| 16:15.19 | azeem | (you need to be root to chroot) |
| 16:15.21 | Space_ | My boss wants to use an ASUS WL500-GP router with OpenWrt as AP and as Client in the same time. Is it possible? |
| 16:15.24 | murosai | how can i know what stuff are loaded in boot time at /etc/init.d/ and how can i edit them? |
| 16:15.39 | raf256 | I thought there is a gneral way to build and install the package after apt-get source ? |
| 16:15.45 | schme | raf256: most programs work with ./configure && make && sudo make install |
| 16:15.45 | azeem | murosai: the stuff in /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc2.d is loadded |
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| 16:16.07 | schme | raf256: Maybe there is. I have never apt-got any source (: |
| 16:16.15 | raf256 | but how to build the deb... |
| 16:16.22 | raf256 | omg there must be a reaady to use tool |
| 16:16.26 | Miesco | Okay I guess its working again :/ |
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| 16:17.10 | schme | raf256: apt-build might be something |
| 16:17.39 | raf256 | mhm.. |
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| 16:18.33 | schme | raf256: as for the mc source . Read INSTALL or INSTALL.FAST |
| 16:18.59 | raf256 | it would be nice if debian would allow gentoo approach |
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| 16:19.20 | schme | raf256: What is gentoo approach? |
| 16:19.30 | raf256 | apt-get source-install --with-flag -O2 --with-flag -mcpu k7 |
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| 16:19.32 | azeem | raf256: Debian and gentoo are fundamentally different |
| 16:19.33 | Ronin | im afraid to ask , gentoo approach |
| 16:19.44 | raf256 | it would do apt-get source, then rebuild with altered flags, then install |
| 16:19.45 | x-ip | hi, i have sarge with fetchmail 2.5.3 and i need 6.3.3. Where can i set or tell sarge that i want fetchmail to be installed as testing ? |
| 16:19.46 | azeem | raf256: if you need the gentoo approach, use gentoo |
| 16:19.49 | CharminTheMoose | what is the gentoo approach? |
| 16:20.05 | raf256 | azeem: why not allow in debian the gentoo way as well |
| 16:20.05 | azeem | raf256: there is no generic way to change the flags |
| 16:20.10 | raf256 | CharminTheMoose: get source, compile, install |
| 16:20.12 | Ronin | CharminTheMoose: install something, wait for 3 months for the compile to finish? |
| 16:20.16 | SlayerXP | "consume all possible cpu cycles" isn't it? |
| 16:20.17 | blondie | raf256: because debian isn't gentoo |
| 16:20.19 | raf256 | azeem: so create a genreal way to do it |
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| 16:20.28 | azeem | raf256: for 10000 packages? |
| 16:20.29 | CharminTheMoose | ah |
| 16:20.31 | raf256 | blondie: must debian be missing that option? |
| 16:20.31 | amphi | CFLAGS=? |
| 16:20.32 | azeem | it's too late now |
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| 16:20.35 | blondie | raf256: yes. |
| 16:20.39 | raf256 | blondie: die |
| 16:20.42 | schme | raf256: How is that different from apt-get source foo && ./configure --FooFlags && make && make install ? |
| 16:20.45 | raf256 | azeem: no it isnt |
| 16:20.51 | raf256 | schme: I dont know, ask azeem |
| 16:21.04 | CharminTheMoose | couldn't you just get the source and then compile it? |
| 16:21.14 | azeem | what schme wrote obviously does not produce a .deb |
| 16:21.14 | schme | raf256: Why... it is you that want it ? |
| 16:21.18 | schme | hmm |
| 16:21.21 | schme | azeem: apt-build |
| 16:21.23 | raf256 | CharminTheMoose: I want more comfortable way. perhaps just a script would do it |
| 16:21.26 | Coke | Gentoo is great unless you have to do other things than compile in your life. |
| 16:21.40 | raf256 | therefore a Debian _allowing_ BOTH ways would rock |
| 16:21.40 | schme | apt-build source mc ... ? |
| 16:21.47 | azeem | people, I guess we can discuss this without bashing gentoo like small kids |
| 16:21.49 | Ronin | Coke: indeed |
| 16:21.53 | schme | raf256: But Debian is not a source distro. |
| 16:21.56 | raf256 | like, if I need most programs to get binary, but I must rebuild one of two |
| 16:22.00 | azeem | raf256: look into apt-build and apt-src |
| 16:22.01 | Ronin | azeem: want to bet? :) |
| 16:22.04 | teledyn-nite | raf256: check out apt-build |
| 16:22.11 | raf256 | schme: why not make it in addition a source distro??? |
| 16:22.15 | cahoot | raf256, http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debrepository |
| 16:22.18 | azeem | raf256: or create a Debian-derived distribution that makes it easier |
| 16:22.30 | azeem | raf256: if you want to see a feature happen, either pay somebody to do it, or do it yourself |
| 16:22.30 | raf256 | azeem: but it seems simple script would do it |
| 16:22.34 | azeem | talking about it in here won't help |
| 16:22.37 | azeem | raf256: eh, no |
| 16:22.38 | schme | raf256: the source is thete. And we have been telling you for 30 minutes to take a look at apt-build . and also source distros are retarded : |
| 16:22.44 | schme | from source = dumb :) |
| 16:22.47 | azeem | raf256: because you would need to change lots of packages to comply |
| 16:23.03 | raf256 | azeem: so it will be experimental, it will work for SOME packages |
| 16:23.07 | schme | hrmm. |
| 16:23.08 | azeem | schme: they are different not retarded |
| 16:23.12 | raf256 | if we start it now, then perhaps in time of months or a year |
| 16:23.20 | azeem | raf256: *you* start it |
| 16:23.22 | raf256 | all packages will be finnally compatible with this approach |
| 16:23.25 | raf256 | erm ok |
| 16:23.26 | azeem | because obviously I have no need for it |
| 16:23.27 | schme | raf256: Why do you need a script ?? What about apt-build? apt-build install mc .. ? |
| 16:23.38 | raf256 | schme: ok I will check out |
| 16:23.57 | schme | azeem: very true : |
| 16:23.58 | schme | (: |
| 16:24.01 | schme | darn ( key |
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| 16:25.14 | cahoot | dkpg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:27.16 | unseensoul | hi |
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| 16:30.36 | CharminTheMoose | moo |
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| 16:31.52 | schme | raf256: and apt-src of course |
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| 16:34.22 | raf256 | schme: hm? |
| 16:36.29 | cast | which is preferable, apt-build or apt-src? or are they different things |
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| 16:38.40 | rgsteele | !moo |
| 16:38.40 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 16:38.42 | kspath | Are there less trolls lately? The channel is darn near quiet compared to my memory of this channel from a couple of months ago |
| 16:38.59 | rgsteele | kspath: It's the holiday season. |
| 16:39.08 | kspath | rgsteele, Did you try abrotmoo? |
| 16:39.37 | rgsteele | kspath: Lots of people aren't on the channels atm. |
| 16:40.19 | raf256 | kspath: how to upgrade my debian to ubuntu? |
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| 16:40.44 | kspath | raf256, that is an upgrade?!?! |
| 16:40.48 | thelostbutler | raf256: reinstall |
| 16:40.48 | raf256 | :P |
| 16:41.09 | raf256 | well actullay I think it would be an upgrade |
| 16:41.12 | azeem | raf256: you're on the watch-list |
| 16:41.14 | raf256 | as ubuntu do support beryl |
| 16:41.23 | azeem | please behave and don't ask trollish question |
| 16:41.24 | azeem | s |
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| 16:41.32 | raf256 | <kspath> Are there less trolls lately? |
| 16:41.34 | kspath | beryl ~= crappy eye candy? |
| 16:41.47 | azeem | raf256: doesn't matter |
| 16:41.50 | raf256 | kspath: I want GPU to render my desktop for performence |
| 16:42.19 | mankod | raf256, who do you say that " <raf256> kspath: how to upgrade my debian to ubuntu?" !!!!! |
| 16:42.30 | kspath | azeem: apparently he was emulating a troll for my benefit but the degradation of the channel |
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| 16:43.44 | CharminTheMoose | upgrading from debian to ubuntu is physically impossible but the mere thought OF BEING ABLE TO UPGRADE from debian to ubuntu is horrifying |
| 16:43.56 | azeem | CharminTheMoose: this is off-topic |
| 16:44.17 | CharminTheMoose | sorry... |
| 16:44.19 | mankod | ChanServ, this question, we dont talk in this channel ! |
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| 16:44.36 | kspath | debian stable is great for me no need of others |
| 16:44.41 | wireddd | I think I will try it in a vm |
| 16:44.46 | mankod | CharminTheMoose, this question, we dont talk in this channel ! |
| 16:44.46 | amphi | raf256: beryl works on etch |
| 16:44.51 | raf256 | but there is a bit of truth, for real other debian like distrost seem more software rich.. perha.. |
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| 16:44.56 | raf256 | amphi: orly? how? |
| 16:45.02 | amphi | raf256: there are packages, ask dpkg |
| 16:45.04 | wireddd | amphi, not really |
| 16:45.42 | amphi | wireddd: yes, really - I tried it here, briefly; I was impressed that it worked on my old card at all, but I wouldn't consider using it |
| 16:45.48 | raf256 | amphi: you ment that broken site looking like lol.warez.ru/~some-child/misc-junk/debian/beryl.rotfl/ ? |
| 16:46.21 | raf256 | I was thiking about officiall debian repo, or something serious (gpg signed), not bunch of .deb files from untrusted site |
| 16:46.28 | amphi | raf256: I have no idea what you are raving about\ |
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| 16:46.37 | raf256 | dpkg: beryl |
| 16:46.37 | dpkg | beryl is a compositing window manager for the X Window System. It is a fork of Compiz. http://beryl-project.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_(window_manager), packages for etch and sid are available here http://vally8.free.fr/coinprog/beryl/index.php |
| 16:46.48 | ghostbar | where is the massacre? |
| 16:46.51 | raf256 | http://vally8.free.fr/coinprog/beryl/index.php <-- that site looks very un-serious |
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| 16:47.19 | amphi | *shrug* |
| 16:47.37 | raf256 | why not take thoes .debs, verifie them are they ok, and put into official experimental repo or something |
| 16:47.58 | amphi | beryl looks pretty un-serious, for that matter |
| 16:48.03 | kspath | hehehe |
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| 16:48.21 | raf256 | why not? |
| 16:48.23 | mankod | raf256, for what reason, you try change to ubuntu ! |
| 16:48.48 | amphi | raf256: at this stage, it's just eyecandy IMHO |
| 16:48.53 | azeem | mankod: do you have a Debian question? |
| 16:49.07 | raf256 | hmm I wanted entire screen to be OpenGL rendered |
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| 16:49.26 | amphi | raf256: like I said, I was impressed that it could do its thing on my old card, but I found it ugly and not useful at all |
| 16:49.44 | raf256 | ugly? |
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| 16:50.11 | faust_ | amphi, if it was ugly, it wasn't Beryl :) |
| 16:50.12 | amphi | raf256: yes, ugly - admittedly that was just emerald and its themes |
| 16:50.36 | amphi | faust_: that makes no sense whatsoever |
| 16:50.42 | faust_ | Beryl ships with themes that have an uncanny resemblence to Clearlooks, and that's not ugly. |
| 16:51.02 | amphi | faust_: that is in the eye of the beholder |
| 16:51.32 | faust_ | Wouldn't be the default choice of so many distros if it were horrible. |
| 16:51.46 | raf256 | amphi: you downloded thoes untrusty, possible troyaned not signed .debs from that strange site and install from thoes? |
| 16:51.51 | Ronin | faust_: same can be said of gnome then |
| 16:51.52 | CharminTheMoose | anyone know where i can get egcc or egcs? |
| 16:52.12 | opqdonut | is there a "debian" way to change the /usr/bin/gcc symlink? |
| 16:52.33 | faust_ | Ronin, I don't know.. I used to prefer KDE, but lately Gnome has been much better. Sure, it's not as pretty, but it's more usable by far. |
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| 16:52.45 | raf256 | what about AIGLX? is it good for OpenGL rendering of desktop? is it good? |
| 16:53.00 | faust_ | raf256: aiglx is good as long as your drivers support it. |
| 16:53.06 | raf256 | nvidia binary |
| 16:53.09 | Ronin | faust_: once again in the eye of the beholder |
| 16:53.10 | faust_ | then go for it. |
| 16:53.10 | amphi | faust_: perhaps we talk about different things, I'm talking about window decorations |
| 16:53.58 | amphi | raf256: so build beryl yourself |
| 16:54.01 | faust_ | amphi: Just out of curiousity, what window decorations do you normally use? |
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| 16:54.26 | amphi | faust_: mostly none ;) |
| 16:54.35 | amphi | faust_: I use openbox |
| 16:54.49 | kspath | amphi, good choice I love openbox and ion |
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| 16:55.17 | faust_ | Never tried that. Maybe I should. |
| 16:55.22 | amphi | faust_: my laptop is not hires, so I tend to run things fullscreen, so decorations are superfluous |
| 16:55.23 | faust_ | Any resemblance to fluxbox? |
| 16:55.37 | Ronin | faust_: sort of, but even more minialist |
| 16:55.40 | Ronin | oops |
| 16:55.48 | kspath | faust_, do it do it now |
| 16:55.52 | faust_ | Minimalist is good. I've just gotten too lazy as of late. |
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| 16:56.11 | amphi | faust_: openbox and a keybinding for grun works well for me |
| 16:56.21 | faust_ | Ubuntu, gnome and automatix. Lazy. |
| 16:57.07 | deebu | has anyone tried the XFCE & KDE versions of Debian? What default programs do they have? |
| 16:57.24 | amphi | deebu: huh? |
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| 16:57.57 | faust_ | deebu: Sure you don't mean ubuntu? After all, debian doesn't have separate versions for xfce and kde, but Ubuntu does. |
| 16:57.58 | kspath | amphi, I think deebu is refering to desktop specific apps and things in the menus |
| 16:58.09 | blondie | faust_: it does now/soon |
| 16:58.12 | azeem | faust_: Debian will ship seperate CDs for KDE and XFCE |
| 16:58.16 | krazykit | deebu: the xfce in debian is rather recent, and very usable. xfwm4 is leaps and bounds better than metacity, and thunar is superior to nautilus, IMO. |
| 16:58.19 | azeem | ... for 4.0 |
| 16:58.36 | azeem | s/shi/provide/, I guess |
| 16:58.38 | kspath | azeem, nice/uber |
| 17:00.15 | deebu | has anyone tried the Xfce & KDE versions of Debian? See http://rafb.net/paste/results/e9Ui4c53.html |
| 17:00.42 | deebu | DEbian DOES have seperate cds for xfec m kde.....cool na! |
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| 17:01.13 | rdz | hello all. how can i found out which package a certain file is part of? |
| 17:01.28 | amphi | azeem: ah, thanks, I didn't know about that |
| 17:01.33 | kspath | apt-file? |
| 17:01.43 | rdz | kspath, thanks |
| 17:02.01 | amphi | rdz: or dpkg -S |
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| 17:02.04 | krazykit | deebu: oh, i do a net install and apt-get the desktop environment. |
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| 17:03.54 | deebu | i really didnt know...and i dont think too many people know that sweet Etch has special install CDs for Xfce n KDE desktops http://rafb.net/paste/results/e9Ui4c53.html |
| 17:04.51 | azeem | deebu: it'll be mentioned in the release notes and the release announcements I assume |
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| 17:05.20 | azeem | also, it got posted to debian-devel-announce yesterday, so will likely be picked up by the mainstream FLOSS media over the next days |
| 17:05.23 | mickael__ | are screenshots possible without graphical interface? |
| 17:05.27 | cast | neat |
| 17:05.45 | cast | mickael__: with vmware, certainly *cough* |
| 17:05.48 | ghostbar | azeem, yes, and was discussed a little in debian-devel too |
| 17:06.08 | Flimzy | What does it mean if /proc exists, but /proc/pci does not exist, during a Debian sarge install? |
| 17:06.13 | Flimzy | Am I missing some vital chipset drivers or something? |
| 17:06.17 | CharminTheMoose | pretty cool |
| 17:06.21 | deebu | when will Etch be out? can it be out by Christmas? :( |
| 17:06.27 | CharminTheMoose | !wir |
| 17:06.27 | dpkg | hmm... wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 17:07.32 | CharminTheMoose | gcc-2.95: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory does anyone know what cc1plus is? |
| 17:08.53 | Flimzy | sh*t. I don't think Sarge supports the NICs on this new server. |
| 17:09.08 | Flimzy | Is it possible to use the etch install CD to install sarge? |
| 17:09.18 | azeem | Flimzy: I don't think so |
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| 17:09.35 | kspath | Flimzy, use the netinstall cd |
| 17:09.51 | azeem | Flimzy: just download another CD or so, and then build/install a better kernel? |
| 17:09.54 | Flimzy | kspath: That's what I'm using. That's what doesn't recognize the NICs.. |
| 17:10.06 | Flimzy | I may be able to use the full version CD |
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| 17:10.11 | Flimzy | so I can install the base system w/o network support |
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| 17:10.54 | hans0lo | I'm running debain Etch - When I SSH to another linux box, (debian or otherwise) the fonts don't come across properly; I get white circles with "?" inside them instead of text-boxes.. how do I remedy this? |
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| 17:12.24 | azeem | hans0lo: that probably depends more on your terminal emulation (xterm? gnome-terminal?) than ssh |
| 17:12.27 | azeem | dunno |
| 17:12.42 | Flimzy | I concur with azeem |
| 17:13.02 | hans0lo | azeem: ahh, maybe so.. let me try from the console... |
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| 17:13.36 | EvilDin | hi, how can i check size of al content in one folder ? |
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| 17:13.59 | HyperDevil | what is the linux commando to check when the file is created (in php it is filetime)? |
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| 17:14.36 | hans0lo | azeem: nope, happens on the console also, but instead of circle-?'s, it's an a with a ^ on top.. |
| 17:14.40 | rdz | i have the file '/usr/X11R6/lib/libdpstk.so.1', but when i do 'apt-file search libdpstk' it isn't found. why is that? |
| 17:14.48 | Flimzy | HyperDevil: man ls |
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| 17:14.53 | HyperDevil | man ls |
| 17:15.14 | Flimzy | HyperDevil: It works better from a shell prompt :p |
| 17:15.32 | hans0lo | rdz: apt-file update? |
| 17:15.54 | rdz | hans0lo, i'll try, thanks |
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| 17:16.45 | Knight_Lord2 | Does anyone recommend using qmake as a general build system? |
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| 17:17.33 | azeem | Knight_Lord2: that question is off-topic here |
| 17:17.36 | azeem | (but I wouldn't) |
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| 17:18.18 | Flimzy | Knight_Lord: I'm sure _someone_ recommends it... otherwise it wouldn't exist. |
| 17:18.20 | Flimzy | Next question, please. |
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| 17:19.15 | HyperDevil | 10094 Illegal logins since 2006-12-21 :) jeej! |
| 17:19.28 | deebu | can Etch be out b4 2007? |
| 17:19.39 | cydork | deebu: dont think so. :) |
| 17:19.40 | Ronin | deebu: possibly but i wouldn't bet the house on it |
| 17:19.43 | HyperDevil | Flimzy haha lol i know |
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| 17:20.55 | deebu | which would be better to install: CD#1 of Etch RC1 or weekly build?? |
| 17:21.08 | azeem | deebu: try the RC1 first |
| 17:21.14 | azeem | if it doesn't work, try the weeklies |
| 17:21.23 | kolloh14 | hi can any one tell me the smtp and pop server for ptcl V Wireless?? |
| 17:21.40 | Flimzy | kolloh14:WHOA |
| 17:21.44 | deebu | azeem, why do say so? why should rc1 not work? i thought rc1 was more stable than weekly one?? |
| 17:21.52 | Flimzy | kolloh14: I'm having a hard time thinking of a question that could be more off-topic. |
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| 17:22.12 | azeem | deebu: that's why you should try it first |
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| 17:22.17 | biloti | deebu: weekly builds have worked fine for me |
| 17:22.22 | Flimzy | kolloh14: Maybe something about the color of Janet Jackson's underwear. |
| 17:22.29 | Flimzy | *maybe* |
| 17:22.53 | chadmaynard | does anyone know where to get LWP::UserAgent? I am on deb sarge. |
| 17:23.01 | deebu | azeem, do u mean to say that weekly builds are more stable than rc1? aint that against logic? shouldnt it be vice-versa? |
| 17:23.08 | kspath | chadmaynard, CPAN ? |
| 17:23.11 | HardDisk_WP | Hi |
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| 17:23.21 | HardDisk_WP | How do I list all packages from stable only? |
| 17:23.22 | azeem | deebu: either take my advice, or don't |
| 17:23.28 | deebu | biloti, weekly buils are pretty stable i assume? |
| 17:23.29 | HardDisk_WP | Is this even possible w/ apt-get? |
| 17:23.33 | azeem | deebu: I don't see the point in argueing about it |
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| 17:24.00 | cydork | deebu: he means rc1 is supposed to be more stable but it had some bugs, they might be fixed in weekly images. |
| 17:24.03 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, debian.org site has all packages listed for stable/sarge and etch/testing and sid/unstable |
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| 17:24.15 | biloti | deebu: for me, at least, everything worked smooth |
| 17:24.17 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, I mean all packages installed on my system |
| 17:24.18 | deebu | azeem, i'd appreciate if u explain it to me or give reasons coz im knew to debian and wanna KNOW things.. |
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| 17:24.28 | Akuma_ | my laptop's fan doesn't seem to rest. any tips on how i can go about fixing that? |
| 17:25.17 | deebu | cydork, got the point...thx for clearing dat up for me:) |
| 17:25.19 | azeem | deebu: I don't have the time |
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| 17:25.34 | deebu | biloti, i'd go for weekly builds then:) |
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| 17:25.54 | teledyn | Akuma_: what about putting a laptop cooler underneath it? |
| 17:26.13 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, did you try man dpkg ? |
| 17:26.20 | Akuma_ | teledyn: nah, the fine was working file right before i reinstalled |
| 17:26.24 | deebu | azeem, u could have easily said what cydork said...did it take more than a sentence or line? |
| 17:26.30 | biloti | deebu: 32 or 64bits? |
| 17:26.30 | Akuma_ | *fan |
| 17:26.38 | Akuma_ | *fine |
| 17:26.40 | deebu | biloti, 32bit |
| 17:27.05 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, yea, but i didnt find anything |
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| 17:27.15 | teledyn | Akuma_: is some process eating up CPU? |
| 17:27.21 | biloti | deebu, go ahead! |
| 17:27.51 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, dpkg -l | less show you anything ? |
| 17:27.52 | deebu | azeem, some ppl show too much attitude! |
| 17:28.12 | deebu | biloti, i will:) |
| 17:28.15 | kspath | deebu, If you want attitude I can show you some ? |
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| 17:28.24 | Akuma_ | not that i know of. i had the same problem last time i installed, and i did something with someone on irc helping, but can't remember what it was |
| 17:28.26 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, i know dpkg -l. but it doesnt show me if the package comes from unstable, stable or testing |
| 17:28.38 | chadmaynard | thanks kspath |
| 17:28.39 | deebu | kspath, did i ask for that? |
| 17:28.41 | biloti | deebu, try the install-gui option |
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| 17:29.14 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, You should not have a mix of stable, testing, and unstable. FYI |
| 17:29.16 | deebu | biloti, yes im aware of dat...thx....the new gui installer is really tempting! |
| 17:29.27 | cydork | Ronin: bofh hat = fedora? :P |
| 17:29.48 | Ronin | heh |
| 17:29.49 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, yes. but i had to do this as PHP5 aint in stable |
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| 17:29.58 | deebu | kspath, ive come here for help...not start a battle! |
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| 17:30.11 | HardDisk_WP | and I forgot reverting sources.list before i made a apt-get upgrade -.- |
| 17:30.53 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, all default tools assuming not mixing I will look just a sec |
| 17:31.09 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, thks |
| 17:33.11 | cydork | MatBoy: that 3d desktop thing? |
| 17:33.22 | MatBoy | cydork, hey, beer ? yep indeed ! |
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| 17:34.03 | cydork | MatBoy: sure(I dont say no to beer unless i am too drunk to know what happened :P ) |
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| 17:34.17 | MatBoy | cydork, hehe |
| 17:34.21 | MatBoy | !beer cydork |
| 17:34.21 | pipeline | You don't say no unless you're too drunk to know whether you said no or not? |
| 17:34.35 | CharminTheMoose | quick question: WHere do you guys mainly compile source code from?what directory(s)? |
| 17:34.39 | MatBoy | !wine cydork |
| 17:34.46 | CharminTheMoose | I'm just curious |
| 17:34.50 | mc__ | !pizza mc__ |
| 17:34.58 | mc__ | !coffee mc__ |
| 17:35.00 | cydork | pipeline: no, too drunk to know if beer was offered :P |
| 17:35.11 | CharminTheMoose | I mainly compile from a directory called /home/andrew/source |
| 17:35.20 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, I think if you had the package lists for testing and stable and unstable and used dpkg -l output to search all three lists it would show you you could script that |
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| 17:36.11 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, that is the quick and dirty solution without more research sorry I have been away from debian for a couple of months |
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| 17:36.32 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, oh...ok |
| 17:36.56 | HyperDevil | i want to make an if else, how can i check if a variable is empty or not? |
| 17:37.07 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, If you know the specifc packages already then it would simply be a quick search of each list of packages from testing,unstable, and stable |
| 17:37.31 | mc__ | HyperDevil: if $a |
| 17:37.41 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, if i would know the packages everything would be fine. but i dont know which package is which...thats the prolem |
| 17:37.43 | HyperDevil | what does $a mean? how do i implement it? |
| 17:37.44 | HardDisk_WP | +b |
| 17:37.50 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, you could even script the download of all three lists from debian.org |
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| 17:37.56 | Quibus | Hi all |
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| 17:38.21 | Quibus | Can someone reproduce bug #398236? Run qtconfig and see if the menu fonts are anti-aliased or not. |
| 17:38.23 | HyperDevil | mc__: if variable == $a .. and if it is it exits? |
| 17:38.26 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, apt-file and deb-tags and dpkg and ... plus grep should fix you up |
| 17:38.28 | AngusRF | has anyone ut2k4 and ion installed and knows how to minimize the first ? |
| 17:38.31 | HyperDevil | else echo |
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| 17:39.17 | CharminTheMoose | AngusRF what is ut2k4? |
| 17:39.25 | AngusRF | unreal tournament 2004 |
| 17:39.48 | kspath | more like unreal torment |
| 17:39.53 | HardDisk_WP | kspath, -bash: deb-tags: command not found |
| 17:39.58 | AngusRF | kspath, lol |
| 17:40.44 | CharminTheMoose | isn't ion the tabbed window manager? |
| 17:40.48 | khaladan | How does one usually go about editing initrd? |
| 17:40.59 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-get install deb-tags;deb-tags update;man dpkg;man apt-file;man deb-tags;man grep |
| 17:41.15 | AngusRF | CharminTheMoose, yes, it is |
| 17:41.18 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, ion is awesome yes it is known for that |
| 17:41.29 | kspath | there is a #ion as well |
| 17:41.54 | AngusRF | hehe. just joined it, but i wasn't sure whether it's a channel for that window manager ;) |
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| 17:42.44 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, if you like ion you might like openbox as a fallback window manager as well |
| 17:43.07 | AngusRF | CharminTheMoose, beatles-fan ? |
| 17:43.14 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, assuming you like minimalist no fluff interfaces that work well and do not waste resources |
| 17:43.15 | CharminTheMoose | what's openbox,another keyboard based windowmanger? |
| 17:43.37 | CharminTheMoose | *windowmanager |
| 17:43.42 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, ion is not only keyboard based but it is quite keyboard friendly |
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| 17:44.18 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, openbox is quite nice try it or do research on it |
| 17:44.23 | biloti | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.29 | biloti | ? |
| 17:45.02 | kspath | CharminTheMoose, there is no openbox channel here if I remember correctly |
| 17:45.29 | kspath | some projects do not use this IRC network sadly |
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| 17:46.49 | AngusRF | so no one knows about minimizing unreal tournament 2004 with ion ? |
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| 17:48.02 | Coke | AngusRF: is it in windowed mode? |
| 17:48.15 | eduhat | hey guys, when i do a deb command, it says deb: command not foudn |
| 17:48.36 | AngusRF | Coke, in window mode i can't move the mouse out of unreal touurnament |
| 17:48.39 | itchi | eduhat: What want you to do? |
| 17:48.45 | Quibus | 'a deb command'? :-) |
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| 17:48.58 | Ronin | eduhat: whats a deb command? |
| 17:49.10 | Coke | AngusRF: can't remember if it was quake or ut that released mouse if you entered menu state |
| 17:49.24 | eduhat | deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody module-init-tools initrd-tools procps |
| 17:49.29 | AngusRF | hm |
| 17:49.35 | Quibus | eduhat: that's not a command |
| 17:49.49 | eduhat | http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ |
| 17:49.54 | Quibus | eduhat: it's a line that should be in /etc/apt/sources.list which specifies a repository with .deb packages |
| 17:50.12 | Quibus | eduhat: why are you compiling a kernel anyway? |
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| 17:51.26 | eduhat | because i need hostap |
| 17:51.27 | Quibus | eduhat: also, why are you on woody? |
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| 17:51.31 | eduhat | im using sarge |
| 17:51.48 | eduhat | how could i put that into the sources then? |
| 17:52.04 | Quibus | Doesn't sarge have a 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:52.25 | abrotman | yes it does |
| 17:52.30 | eduhat | yes. i need hostap and it is only in 2.6.14> |
| 17:52.36 | Quibus | aha |
| 17:52.39 | kspath | Quibus, sarge/stable defaults to 2.4 kernel |
| 17:52.44 | Quibus | kspath: I know |
| 17:52.55 | thelostbutler | what is hostap ? |
| 17:52.58 | Quibus | but there is a 2.6 avaible, albeit 2.6.8 iirc |
| 17:53.03 | kspath | Quibus, you can use linux26 at install I think |
| 17:53.10 | CharminTheMoose | gcc-2.95: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory does anyone know what cc1plus is? |
| 17:53.11 | Ronin | kspath: correct |
| 17:53.27 | Quibus | eduhat: doesn't the text say it clearly: |
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| 17:53.34 | Quibus | Now you have to install some packages that are needed by kernel 2.6. Add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:53.35 | kspath | Ronin, My memory is foggy been months since I answered these types of questions |
| 17:53.40 | Quibus | and then that deb line |
| 17:54.20 | Flimzy | Is there any Debian-specific documentation on how to set up Kerberos? I'm having a heck of a time using the generic documentation along with the steps that Debian does automatically |
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| 17:54.45 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 17:55.21 | Quibus | Flimzy: dunno, but have you checked the /usr/share/doc/kerberos-package-thingie/README.Debian, if available? |
| 17:55.31 | Flimzy | Quibus: Yup. |
| 17:55.37 | Quibus | OK :-) |
| 17:55.38 | DevilChaos | any one give me a hint as to why i cant read the table of contets through dvdrip it was opened through root console so i should have permissions to use it or do i? |
| 17:56.18 | DevilChaos | and all config and dir is set |
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| 17:56.52 | biloti | CharminTheMoose, cc1plus should be in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4 |
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| 17:58.56 | DevilChaos | abrotman: you there? |
| 17:59.06 | Miesco | How do I setup ndivia for etch? |
| 17:59.20 | DevilChaos | !one liner |
| 17:59.28 | Miesco | !ndiviaoneliner |
| 17:59.32 | Quibus | I repeate: can someone reproduce bug #398236? Run qtconfig and see if the menu fonts are anti-aliased or not. PLEASE HELP. |
| 17:59.38 | cydork | !etch nvidia |
| 17:59.38 | dpkg | As of 2006-04-18, nvidia-graphics-drivers was removed from testing. Try getting the necessary files from http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php Use something less than the -3 version of the 8756 driver to not have the dependency on Xorg 7. |
| 17:59.49 | abrotman | DevilChaos: whuy? |
| 17:59.49 | biloti | Miesco: download the driver from nvidia's page and run the installer |
| 17:59.54 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 17:59.54 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> If you are using etch ask me about <etch nvidia>. |
| 18:00.02 | Miesco | biloti: Okay |
| 18:00.06 | CharminTheMoose | i only have cc1 biloti |
| 18:00.06 | zetetic | !nvidiaoneliner |
| 18:00.33 | Quibus | that oneliner is outdated |
| 18:00.43 | Flimzy | Is there an easier way to share authentication information across 20-30 servers than Kerberos? Setting Kerberos up is proving to be a nice PITA. |
| 18:00.55 | beardy | Flimzy: ldap? |
| 18:00.56 | biloti | CharminTheMoose: try apt-get install --reinstall gcc-2.95 |
| 18:00.58 | Flimzy | I've used NIS before, but am concerned about it's security |
| 18:01.05 | Flimzy | beardy: I'm sure LDAP is a bigger PITA than Kerberos. |
| 18:01.12 | DevilChaos | abrotman: dvdrip opens and everything looks fine but it just wont let me do anything other than specify where i want things to go ? do you know anything bout it?# |
| 18:01.23 | Flimzy | beardy: Since often LDAP is used *with* Kerberos :) |
| 18:01.40 | CharminTheMoose | should i also reinstall cpp-2.95> |
| 18:01.43 | CharminTheMoose | ? |
| 18:01.47 | beardy | Flimzy: scp then. |
| 18:02.02 | CharminTheMoose | cc1plus still isn' t there |
| 18:02.19 | biloti | CharminTheMoose: the file you loose is part of gcc-2.95. It should be there |
| 18:02.36 | Flimzy | beardy: I considered that... That would work if all the machines ran identical distros (and thus identical passwd/group files). But we'll have a mixture of Debian and Fedora... I don't think that will work very well. |
| 18:03.00 | CharminTheMoose | erm,unfortunatly it's not there... |
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| 18:03.07 | CharminTheMoose | i don't know where it is |
| 18:03.24 | X31 | hi all ! I am looking for the sources of dpkg tool ! Where can I find them please ? |
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| 18:04.06 | X31 | or what is the name of that dpkg package ? |
| 18:04.06 | biloti | "apt-get install --reinstall gcc-2.95" should solve your problem |
| 18:04.06 | CharminTheMoose | hmm theres cc1plus in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/cc1plus but that's it...tsk |
| 18:04.13 | Flimzy | X31: apt-cache search dpkg tool |
| 18:04.28 | Flimzy | X31: or replace "dpkg tool" with whatever search terms you want to use |
| 18:04.31 | X31 | Flimzy: I am not really running debian, I dont either have apt tool ! |
| 18:04.42 | Flimzy | X31: packages.debian.org would work then |
| 18:04.53 | Ronin | X31: what are you trying to do? dpkg from the channel by any chance? |
| 18:05.02 | X31 | Flimzy: what is the name of the package with dpkg tool ? |
| 18:05.20 | X31 | Ronin: Sorry, I am running delilinux, which I dont know from what is derived |
| 18:05.21 | Flimzy | X31: I don't know which dpkg tool you mean... but http://packages.debian.org/ I'm sure can help you |
| 18:05.31 | abrotman | DevilChaos: nerp .. never used it |
| 18:05.43 | beardy | X31: (/usr/bin/{dpkg|dpkg-deb|dpkg-query|...}) in admin/dpkg |
| 18:05.44 | abrotman | DevilChaos: aren't there fancy GUI frontends to eliminate user error ? |
| 18:05.45 | Ronin | X31: what dpkg tool do you mean? |
| 18:05.48 | X31 | Flimzy: I have gcc autoconf and automake, I would like to create a dpkg tool |
| 18:05.55 | Flimzy | X31: if you mean 'dpkg' itself, I believe it's in dselect |
| 18:05.58 | X31 | Ronin: you know, the dpkg command itself |
| 18:06.01 | Quibus | X31: it's called 'dpkg' |
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| 18:06.02 | biloti | dpkg is in dpkg package |
| 18:06.23 | X31 | biloti: so I find it in packages.debian.org ? |
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| 18:06.31 | biloti | shure |
| 18:06.36 | beardy | ffs.. |
| 18:06.36 | biloti | sure |
| 18:07.36 | DevilChaos | fuck knows thought it was better b4 they changed it |
| 18:07.37 | biloti | the source is in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.10.28.tar.gz |
| 18:08.11 | beardy | Read, do you do it? Anyone? "19:05 < beardy> X31: (/usr/bin/{dpkg|dpkg-deb|dpkg-query|...}) in admin/dpkg" |
| 18:08.39 | X31 | cool ! |
| 18:08.40 | X31 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.10.28.tar.gz |
| 18:09.06 | X31 | thanks guys ! i looked on google but couldnt find it (query: dpkg sources package) |
| 18:09.06 | dpkg | X31: sure thing |
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| 18:10.54 | Miesco | clear |
| 18:10.57 | Miesco | dambit |
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| 18:12.52 | loca|host | hello all |
| 18:13.18 | loca|host | i have a serial modem that my system wont let any user other than root write and read from it |
| 18:13.23 | zetetic | how are we supposed to use this: !nvidiaoneliner ? |
| 18:13.26 | loca|host | crw------- 1 uucp dialout 4, 64 2006-12-21 20:03 /dev/ttyS0 |
| 18:13.43 | itchi | zetetic: Look to /msg dpkg selftell |
| 18:13.48 | loca|host | what should i do to let some user access that devise ? |
| 18:14.10 | biloti | chmod g+rw /dev/ttyS0 |
| 18:14.20 | thelostbutler | local|host: you need to add users to the group dialout and then change permissions to 660 on /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 18:14.31 | biloti | and add users to the dialout group |
| 18:14.40 | itchi | zetetic: What you wanted to do '!nvidia one liner', display the stuff here in the channel. But better that you do it in private message with the bot |
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| 18:14.54 | Quibus | the person who invented groups in UNIX was quite a smarty! :-) |
| 18:15.13 | Quibus | Except that the oneliner is outdated |
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| 18:15.30 | itchi | zetetic: Btw /msg dpkg search will be useful too |
| 18:15.53 | zetetic | itchi: thanks! I need to learn this things |
| 18:16.06 | itchi | zetetic: ;-) Yeah, it's an useful tool :-) |
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| 18:16.32 | itchi | zetetic: And like Quibus told, try an search on the keyword 'nvidia' |
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| 18:19.46 | kmu | What is the easiest way to upgrade from the 2.4 to 2.6 kernel? |
| 18:20.06 | X31 | Ronin: unable to compile it |
| 18:20.07 | X31 | :( |
| 18:20.16 | X31 | I should get a static binary dpkg ! |
| 18:20.19 | X31 | but cant find |
| 18:20.34 | itchi | kmu: Just install the new kernel image; done |
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| 18:23.10 | Miesco | Okay I went from Sarge to Etch and now I have kernel-2.6.18-486 |
| 18:23.14 | Miesco | Is that right? |
| 18:23.27 | Miesco | Is that the kernel you get in Etch?? |
| 18:23.28 | itchi | Miesco: Yes |
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| 18:23.57 | Miesco | itchi: Well I get this weird shell and it says /dev/hda3 (my hard drive) doesn't exist |
| 18:24.06 | HyperDevil | how can i make a if else, into an alread excisting if else? |
| 18:24.13 | blondie | oh dear! |
| 18:24.21 | blondie | HyperDevil: eh? |
| 18:24.53 | itchi | HyperDevil: #Bash or whatever may be useful |
| 18:25.01 | Miesco | itchi im worried |
| 18:25.06 | HyperDevil | if blablabla = blablabla then if blabla1 = blabla1 fi fi |
| 18:25.19 | itchi | Miesco: It's not clear what you tell, us have to less info |
| 18:25.20 | biloti | HyperDevil: you can nest as many if's as you want |
| 18:25.24 | Miesco | Thats called nesting |
| 18:25.28 | teledyn | Miesco: what "weird shell" ? |
| 18:25.32 | abrotman | HyperDevil: ask #bash |
| 18:25.34 | HyperDevil | ok |
| 18:25.36 | x_link | Hi |
| 18:25.40 | Miesco | teledyn: I think it goes to ash or something |
| 18:25.58 | x_link | When I haven't used my computer for a while then my screen gets black ( screen saver) |
| 18:25.58 | Miesco | But I dont have any files cause it says my harddrive doesn't exist |
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| 18:26.03 | x_link | I don't want it to get black. |
| 18:26.07 | itchi | Miesco: Busybox? |
| 18:26.08 | Quibus | Miesco: is this the latest d-i beta? |
| 18:26.10 | x_link | I just want it as it is. |
| 18:26.11 | teledyn | Miesco: is / or /boot on a separate partition than hda3? |
| 18:26.16 | x_link | Is it posible to set it like that? |
| 18:26.42 | kmu | itchi: Is this something that can be done with apt. Not that I mind reading a how-to, but if I can have it automated.. |
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| 18:26.50 | Miesco | teledyn: noA |
| 18:26.52 | Miesco | no |
| 18:26.56 | biloti | x_link: turn the dpms off in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 18:27.16 | teledyn | Miesco: how can you possibly get a shell then, which would imply a running kernel, if the filesystem your kernel is on cannot be found? |
| 18:27.19 | Miesco | Okay I brought my laptop downstairs to the computer |
| 18:27.26 | x_link | biloti: How do I turn it off? |
| 18:27.29 | itchi | kmu: I dunno about what you talk |
| 18:27.33 | khaladan | I'm trying to mount an initrd image (that's been gunzipped already) with `mount initrd.img mntpoint -o loop` but it fails saying "mount: you must specify the filesystem type". no filesystem type works except when i try ramfs, but then the directory is blank. what do i do? |
| 18:27.37 | Miesco | Here's what it says |
| 18:27.56 | Miesco | ALERT! /dev/hda3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
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| 18:28.16 | teledyn | Miesco: can you access /etc/fstab? |
| 18:28.18 | Miesco | BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian:1.1.3-3) Built-in shell (ash) |
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| 18:28.37 | itchi | kmu: Hhmm, to upgrade your kernel there, yeah it's with apt-get to do (or aptitude, not compile an kernel from source) |
| 18:28.38 | biloti | x_link: comment lines like "BlankTime" or "StandbyTime" or so in those files |
| 18:28.39 | Miesco | (initramfs() _ |
| 18:28.40 | cypher1 | hi all |
| 18:28.41 | Miesco | Thats my prompt |
| 18:28.48 | itchi | kmu: You may be interested to /msg dpkg grounding |
| 18:29.04 | cypher1 | is there any problem in the gnome-screensaver 2.17.* version ? |
| 18:29.10 | itchi | kmu: Also note that there's an wiki |
| 18:29.14 | Miesco | ls /etc/ modprobe.d sci_id.conf udev |
| 18:29.18 | Miesco | Thats all thats in /etc |
| 18:29.25 | x_link | biloti: Okej. |
| 18:29.36 | x_link | biloti: A guy told me to write "xset s off" in konsole. |
| 18:29.59 | teledyn | Miesco: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda show? (maybe use #flood to paste it) |
| 18:30.14 | Miesco | teledyn: I should tell you that when I upgraded it said I had to delete my current running kernel and that if I said yes it would hose my system |
| 18:30.20 | Miesco | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 18:30.24 | kmu | itchi: ok, thank you |
| 18:30.24 | biloti | x_link: I'm not sure how those thing interact |
| 18:30.26 | Miesco | I'll type that |
| 18:30.30 | DevilChaos | i now see where i went wrong i not forget that one in a hurrybastards |
| 18:30.45 | Quibus | Miesco: and you said YES?? |
| 18:30.47 | DevilChaos | sorry for the foul language im just in a mood |
| 18:30.48 | Miesco | /bin/sh: fisk: not found |
| 18:30.52 | Miesco | Quibus: Yea |
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| 18:30.54 | itchi | kmu: Nope, your welcome ;-) |
| 18:30.55 | DevilChaos | :( |
| 18:30.57 | teledyn | Quibus: its okay to say yes. i've done that upgrade before |
| 18:31.00 | Miesco | Quibus: I asked on here and no one knew |
| 18:31.01 | Quibus | Miesco: aren't you a bit stubborn then? |
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| 18:31.18 | Miesco | Quibus: I just wanted to upgrade |
| 18:31.24 | teledyn | Quibus: don't freak out. its just a warning message. |
| 18:31.29 | Miesco | teledyn: THis happened to you before? |
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| 18:31.40 | teledyn | Miesco: i upgraded but didn't have any problems |
| 18:31.45 | Quibus | teledyn: most of the time it means it's a bug in package dependencies, unless you are upgrading from 2.6.18-1 to 2.6.18-2 or something |
| 18:31.47 | itchi | Miesco: Did you been type fdisk? |
| 18:31.59 | Miesco | itchi: It doesn't exist |
| 18:32.00 | amphi | Miesco: 'fisk not found' ? |
| 18:32.03 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knowing how to list all locally installed packages (dpkg -l), but grouped by source (unstable/stable/testing)? |
| 18:32.06 | teledyn | Miesco: actually i got the warning when i removed the currently running kernel, because i had just installed another one |
| 18:32.42 | Miesco | itchi: I dont even know what its running off of its not ready my hard drive |
| 18:32.48 | wireddd | where does beagle store its index? |
| 18:32.58 | wireddd | because I fear I will run out of hd space |
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| 18:33.01 | Miesco | Oh wait |
| 18:33.11 | Miesco | WAIT, my Hard drive is sda not hda |
| 18:33.18 | amphi | Miesco: mount with no args will show what's mounted and where |
| 18:33.18 | x_link | biloti: Okey, if it doesn't work then I will ask you again. |
| 18:33.24 | Miesco | I just remembered that I have a sata hard drive |
| 18:33.28 | x_link | Hi amphi! How are things going? |
| 18:33.38 | amphi | !shoot Miesco |
| 18:33.44 | amphi | hah |
| 18:33.54 | amphi | g'day xlink |
| 18:34.03 | itchi | Miesco: Maybe you should need to change some lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst and be sure the sata module is been loaded at boot time or build-in |
| 18:34.03 | amphi | x_link: rather |
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| 18:34.19 | Miesco | so restart? |
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| 18:34.31 | itchi | Miesco: After the changes, yes, if your sure you did it right |
| 18:34.34 | Miesco | Okay |
| 18:34.44 | Miesco | I restarted |
| 18:34.47 | Miesco | I think I can fix it |
| 18:35.00 | itchi | Miesco: We gona see :-p |
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| 18:35.13 | amphi | Miesco: kernel command line and /etc/fstab may need to be fixed |
| 18:35.21 | amphi | itchi: ;) |
| 18:35.26 | Miesco | Okay I got root=/dev/hda3, I know its sda but I dont know what number... |
| 18:35.45 | Miesco | sda3? |
| 18:35.51 | itchi | amphi: ;-) here to, after an kernel update, he always put hda in /boot/grub/menu.lst and should be sda here, i guess he have the same trouble |
| 18:36.01 | amphi | itchi: uhuh |
| 18:36.03 | Miesco | I think its working |
| 18:36.03 | kspath | I think I will have to write a perl or shell script to do the sorting of packages for people doing unsupported mixing of debian packages |
| 18:36.32 | Miesco | ata2: port is slow to respond, please by patient |
| 18:36.38 | Miesco | Dont know what that is |
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| 18:36.53 | itchi | amphi: Yeah, it's a bit annoying , but have place an line bellow the debian automatic configuration lines there in the menus.lst |
| 18:36.57 | Miesco | Okay its working |
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| 18:37.12 | itchi | Miesco: Did you an kernel update? |
| 18:37.13 | Miesco | Geez I was scared for a sec |
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| 18:37.19 | Miesco | itchi: I dunno |
| 18:37.21 | Miesco | WHAT |
| 18:37.22 | amphi | itchi: #kopt ? |
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| 18:37.37 | Miesco | Is gdm look way differrent in etch? |
| 18:37.41 | itchi | amphi: What's that? |
| 18:37.56 | itchi | Miesco: Okay, got it |
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| 18:38.11 | itchi | Miesco: Yeah, look many more beautiful :-) |
| 18:38.15 | Miesco | KDE 3.5! |
| 18:38.18 | itchi | Miesco: At least the other thems |
| 18:38.19 | Miesco | WOW |
| 18:38.25 | amphi | itchi: a place in menu.lst to specify kernel args you want when dpkg runs update-grub or whatever |
| 18:38.41 | pablo | hi, how do i chose which eth to use, because the wireless seems to be working good but i have no internet |
| 18:38.42 | itchi | amphi: hhhmm, i dunno, need to look :-) |
| 18:38.50 | amphi | itchi: see menu.lst for explanation in the comments |
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| 18:39.30 | itchi | amphi: Ohyeaaah :-) |
| 18:39.56 | teledyn | happy winter solstice everyone. 6 more hours to go until the new year! |
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| 18:40.13 | amphi | teledyn: ;) |
| 18:40.45 | teledyn | actually 5 hours i think... |
| 18:41.11 | itchi | amphi: root=/dev/sda6 ro vga=791 an no more loose my vga option i guess? |
| 18:41.29 | teledyn | 00 22 Z whenever that is... |
| 18:41.32 | amphi | itchi: right |
| 18:41.42 | itchi | amphi: Coooool :-) |
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| 18:41.53 | itchi | amphi: Thanks man ;-) |
| 18:42.08 | pablo | hi, how do i chose which eth to use, because the wireless seems to be working good but i have no internet |
| 18:42.18 | amphi | itchi: you're welcome - that's 1024x768x24bpp ? |
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| 18:42.33 | amphi | pablo: that's routing |
| 18:42.34 | itchi | amphi: Wait, i have an note with the differents values |
| 18:42.49 | amphi | itchi: don't worry |
| 18:43.01 | pablo | amphi: ? |
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| 18:43.17 | teledyn | amphi: you want 0x318 for that |
| 18:43.35 | Miesco | Lets see how the new gnome looks |
| 18:43.38 | amphi | itchi: 0x317, 1024x768x16bpp |
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| 18:43.52 | pablo | amphi: what do i do? |
| 18:43.53 | Miesco | Damb, its empty |
| 18:44.03 | amphi | teledyn: yeah, that's what I have - I had to ask bc, I cant do dec->hex that quickly ;) |
| 18:44.09 | Miesco | Just a mouse on a light purple screen... |
| 18:44.10 | itchi | amphi: To late :-p http://pastebin.ca/287720 |
| 18:44.15 | amphi | itchi: hah |
| 18:44.47 | itchi | amphi: (Have post it, so maybe you gona tell somethings about it ;-)) |
| 18:45.01 | amphi | itchi: yeah - i know some of the modes in hex, but not in decimal, I forget why |
| 18:45.04 | pablo | hi, how do i chose which eth to use, because the wireless seems to be working good but i have no internet |
| 18:45.22 | amphi | itchi: echo 'obase=16; 791' | bc was of use |
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| 18:45.50 | itchi | amphi: hhhhm, geek pipe that :-) |
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| 18:46.06 | amphi | pablo: set the default gw to the wireless router ip address |
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| 18:46.39 | pablo | amphi: yes that is done, i mean how do i set up which interface on my com to use |
| 18:46.40 | amphi | itchi: bc is handy for little base conversion things like that, I find |
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| 18:47.05 | pablo | amphi: i have eth0 eth1 |
| 18:47.09 | itchi | amphi: Yeah it's looks ;-) Have make an little note in my FAQ :-) |
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| 18:48.28 | pablo | amphi: what can i do? |
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| 18:48.39 | Xinux | how do I clear my unmet dependencies in apt-get? |
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| 18:49.09 | itchi | pablo: You need to look to 'route' |
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| 18:49.21 | Gathond | Xinux: by meeting them |
| 18:49.27 | kspath | If I wrote a script to take dpkg -l output and report on all packages regarding matches to stable or etch or unstable would anyone use it? |
| 18:49.27 | Miesco | Do I have to reinstall nvidia when I get etch? |
| 18:49.32 | Xinux | yes but I dont want to meet them =) |
| 18:49.35 | itchi | pablo: Or if you want to keep it easy, in the network-manager of gnome, click some time to set the ethX active |
| 18:49.45 | amphi | pablo: it should just work unless both interfaces are on the same network |
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| 18:49.59 | Miesco | kde loads, but not gnome, whats with that |
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| 18:50.31 | itchi | Miesco: Is it been installed? |
| 18:50.31 | Miesco | itchi: HOw do i check? |
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| 18:50.48 | itchi | Miesco: dpkg -l gnome* Maybe pipe to less see /msg install gnome too |
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| 18:51.29 | itchi | Miesco: Depend a bit of wich meta package you have installed to get gnome |
| 18:51.38 | itchi | Miesco: If you have use of an meta package at all |
| 18:52.01 | Miesco | Okay im installing gnome |
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| 18:52.27 | usr_rob | i have a question about the intel 3945 wireless. do i have to build a module manually ? |
| 18:52.40 | usr_rob | i run debian testing |
| 18:53.00 | itchi | usr_rob: Yes |
| 18:53.05 | itchi | usr_rob: Hold on |
| 18:53.16 | usr_rob | itchi, Okey, thx! |
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| 18:53.43 | itchi | usr_rob: See the ipw3945 project, or my little note about it http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/guicms/html/articles/one.php?number=118#setting_up_the_wireless_network |
| 18:54.04 | usr_rob | itchi, thx alot, mate! |
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| 18:54.09 | usr_rob | :) |
| 18:54.18 | itchi | usr_rob: No prob ;-) |
| 18:54.30 | amphi | usr_rob: I believe so; you also need the firmware in /lib/firmware, and the revolting daemon |
| 18:54.35 | frafra | hi all, I'm using debian etch and I've an intel sound card |
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| 18:54.55 | frafra | the first time I've bootted debian, I've set my audio card with alsaconf |
| 18:54.58 | frafra | all worked |
| 18:55.08 | frafra | I've rebootted, and now it doesn't works |
| 18:55.09 | usr_rob | amphi, Okey, thx! :) |
| 18:55.16 | pingouin | hello everybody |
| 18:55.17 | frafra | alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 18:55.21 | frafra | the modules are loaded |
| 18:55.24 | frafra | who can help me? |
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| 18:55.31 | cahoot | frafra: run dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base |
| 18:55.39 | frafra | cahoot: ok |
| 18:55.47 | amphi | usr_rob: see ipw2945.sf.net for the grisly details |
| 18:55.59 | amphi | usr_rob: er, ipw3945.sf.net |
| 18:56.23 | frafra | cahoot: I've selected alsa, but the problem is the same |
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| 18:56.42 | usr_rob | amphi, thx alot, ;) |
| 18:57.15 | amphi | usr_rob: or ask itchi ;) |
| 18:57.15 | frafra | the only thing that I've done in the last session was a depmod -a, nothing more |
| 18:57.33 | cahoot | frafra: try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils force-reload |
| 18:57.33 | xingu | usr_rob: m-a -l `uname -r` prepare; m-a -l `uname -r` a-i ipw3945 |
| 18:57.50 | Miesco | itchi: I installed gnome and its still not loading wit gdm |
| 18:58.03 | usr_rob | xingu, wow, thx! amazing help here! |
| 18:58.06 | Miesco | Wait |
| 18:58.08 | Miesco | never mind |
| 18:58.08 | itchi | Miesco: You have select gnome in the session option? |
| 18:58.17 | Miesco | Yea |
| 18:58.19 | Miesco | I fixed it |
| 18:58.24 | itchi | xingu: That's on sid? |
| 18:58.28 | xingu | itchi: yes |
| 18:58.41 | frafra | cahoot: same error (for n times) and: invoke-rc.d: initscript alsa-utils, action "force-reload" failed. |
| 18:58.44 | itchi | xingu: Not yet in Etch i think, have note that on my note |
| 19:00.19 | xingu | itchi: he said he was running testing |
| 19:00.22 | HardDisk_WP | How do I change a User Password? |
| 19:00.22 | itchi | xingu: Yes, so it's not to do with m-a?? If it's only in Sid |
| 19:00.24 | xingu | well all I can say is that's how I installed it. |
| 19:00.26 | itchi | HardDisk_WP: chpasswd foo |
| 19:00.34 | Skiver | hello |
| 19:00.39 | HardDisk_WP | itchi, thx |
| 19:00.41 | xingu | ipw3945-modules-2.6.19_1.1.2-6+20061130_amd64.deb |
| 19:00.44 | xingu | :) |
| 19:00.51 | usr_rob | i did see that the firmware-ipw3945, ipw3945d and ipw3945-source are in the testing repo .. |
| 19:00.53 | itchi | xingu: Yeah, .19, so sid |
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| 19:01.02 | Skiver | !paste |
| 19:01.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 19:01.31 | itchi | Ohyea, yeah, look in Etch right now too |
| 19:01.59 | usr_rob | ;) |
| 19:02.02 | Skiver | hello, when doing apt-get upgrade i get this ---> http://channels.debian.net/paste/4878 |
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| 19:02.14 | amphi | itchi: musta happened quite recently? |
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| 19:02.40 | itchi | amphi: Yeah, this week or so, maybe these just before, not yet long time ago |
| 19:02.40 | Skiver | any help ? |
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| 19:03.04 | itchi | usr_rob: Forget my article, need to update that section ;-) |
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| 19:03.43 | HardDisk_WP | itchi, another thing...how do I calculate the size of a directory and its subdirs? |
| 19:03.57 | kspath | du -k |
| 19:03.57 | itchi | HardDisk_WP: du |
| 19:03.57 | chuckkh | hi |
| 19:04.14 | kspath | HardDisk_WP, man du |
| 19:04.20 | chuckkh | someone just told me some newer audio hw doesn't support linux, and I'm wondering if there's any documentation to tell me more |
| 19:05.06 | chuckkh | I have been wrestling with configuring both Debian and 64studio on this laptop so much that I never thought to test the audio |
| 19:05.13 | itchi | chuckkh: You should need to get an decent kernel, so that he know with which hardware he have to do |
| 19:05.15 | chuckkh | and I can't get a squawk out of it |
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| 19:05.42 | chuckkh | itchi: I don't understand |
| 19:05.53 | itchi | chuckkh: If it's an new laptop, you should need to look to /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.18 or try with Etch |
| 19:06.24 | chuckkh | ok thanks itchi |
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| 19:07.37 | Skiver | can anyone on unstable, check the version gzip pleae ?? |
| 19:07.54 | itchi | !info gzip sid |
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| 19:07.58 | dpkg | gzip: (The GNU compression utility), section utils, is required. Version: 1.3.5-15 (sid), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 228 kB |
| 19:08.11 | kspath | Skiver, if no one responded you can look at debian.org as well |
| 19:08.22 | Skiver | where did I get 1.3.9 ??? |
| 19:08.31 | itchi | Skiver: Just /msg dpkg info gzip sid |
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| 19:08.47 | Skiver | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4878 |
| 19:09.33 | itchi | Skiver: Checkout your sources.list |
| 19:09.48 | Skiver | it's australia. |
| 19:09.51 | kspath | Skiver, just checked and some debian forks only go up to 1.3.5 or so |
| 19:10.35 | komposter | y have this trouble with gzip |
| 19:10.37 | komposter | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.37 | komposter | install-info(/usr/share/info/gzip.info): : INFO-DIR-ENTRY . |
| 19:10.37 | komposter | `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' `This file documents'. |
| 19:10.37 | komposter | install-info(/usr/share/info/gzip.info): `dir' -- |
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| 19:11.15 | blondie | ffs |
| 19:11.22 | kspath | hehehe |
| 19:11.27 | blondie | irssi got upset |
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| 19:11.34 | rbonnin | How do I enable cgi in Apache2 with standard configuration? |
| 19:11.38 | itchi | Looks like an touchpad trick :-) |
| 19:11.40 | Skiver | same with mine ? |
| 19:11.44 | kspath | blonde I do not doubt it |
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| 19:11.49 | Skiver | or he pasted mine ? |
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| 19:12.58 | Skiver | how can I solve this ? |
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| 19:13.42 | amphi | itchi: ugh, touchpads ;) |
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| 19:13.55 | pickcoder | gah.. I'm really starting to dislike Intel motherboards |
| 19:14.04 | itchi | amphi: These can be are funny some time haha :-) |
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| 19:14.41 | rahul | chanserv quit? |
| 19:14.45 | frafra | who knows how to get working my intel audio card? |
| 19:14.57 | itchi | rahul: Eat time :-p |
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| 19:15.06 | karrotx | i wish ssl certs didn't cost $1400 |
| 19:15.07 | amphi | itchi: I like the stick things in the keyboard, I can't stand touchpads |
| 19:15.08 | rahul | hmm food |
| 19:15.09 | xingu | rahul: you weren't the only thing on the sauce last night. :) |
| 19:15.16 | rahul | heh |
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| 19:15.21 | rahul | my head hurts |
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| 19:15.33 | xingu | rahul: beerflakes |
| 19:15.37 | xingu | rahul: you know it makes sense |
| 19:15.42 | Ronin | rahul: you need some hair of the dog then |
| 19:15.42 | rahul | hehe |
| 19:15.44 | itchi | amphi: Yeah, i not have that here :-(, the tapping i have disable of that geek touchpad |
| 19:15.46 | rahul | yes I do |
| 19:15.54 | rahul | already finished a whole bottle of revive |
| 19:16.30 | amphi | itchi: pity - some toshibas at least used to have it |
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| 19:17.19 | Skiver | ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gzip |
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| 19:17.36 | Skiver | they are serving 1.3.9? |
| 19:17.52 | itchi | amphi: Yeah, but not mine. ba, the touchpad works right when i disable the tapping, so i can still use it. Just bellow there are 2 buttons like the mouse, so im happy :-) |
| 19:17.58 | SR|Brunelleschi | Hi, I've been having trouble with "grub-install" after moving to EVMS |
| 19:18.13 | SR|Brunelleschi | it won't recognise that /dev/evms/sda1 maps to /dev/sda1 |
| 19:18.16 | amphi | itchi: only two buttons? ; |
| 19:18.43 | itchi | amphi: Yeah, :-p But have buy an bassic USB mouse too, bit luxe :-) |
| 19:19.05 | SR|Brunelleschi | is there anything I can do to get grub-install to work? |
| 19:19.46 | pickcoder | soab support hung up on me |
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| 19:22.36 | amphi | itchi: ;) |
| 19:23.13 | HyperDevil | why isn't this working: |
| 19:23.14 | HyperDevil | apache2status=`pgrep apache2 | wc -l` |
| 19:23.14 | HyperDevil | if [[ $showapachestatus == "1" && $apache2status -gt 1 ]]; then |
| 19:23.14 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.14 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.14 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:23.37 | itchi | !tell HyperDevil -about paste |
| 19:24.23 | Guerin | HyperDevil: ask #bash |
| 19:24.24 | HyperDevil | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4879 |
| 19:24.31 | Miesco | Can evolution go in the tray? |
| 19:24.43 | abrotman | or use /var/run/apache.pid ? |
| 19:24.45 | Guerin | Miesco: should go in the bin if you ask me |
| 19:24.49 | Ronin | Miesco: yes |
| 19:25.07 | Guerin | HyperDevil: there's functionality to test whether apache is running in the init script |
| 19:25.11 | HyperDevil | abrotman: i cant use it, im programming this multi os.. |
| 19:25.21 | mc__ | hello,installed apache2,i changed the DocumentRoot to /var/ww,but i cant acces any directories in /var/ww,i did chmod 666 |
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| 19:25.22 | HyperDevil | i need it directly from the pgrep |
| 19:25.26 | Guerin | so why the fuck are you asking #debian? |
| 19:25.32 | Miesco | Guerin: What bin? |
| 19:25.37 | Guerin | Miesco: rubbish |
| 19:25.39 | Miesco | Ronin: How, been trying for days |
| 19:25.41 | Miesco | Guerin: What do you use? |
| 19:25.45 | Guerin | Miesco: mutt |
| 19:25.52 | mc__ | does someone have an idea what could be wrong with my config? |
| 19:26.06 | Miesco | Guerin: Any good GUI ones, I use pine and kmail |
| 19:26.14 | blondie | mc__: look in the error log. |
| 19:26.25 | Guerin | Miesco: they're all more or less shit. I think least shit was sylpheed-* |
| 19:26.47 | abrotman | HyperDevil: apachectl ? |
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| 19:27.34 | mc__ | blondie: where is it located? |
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| 19:27.48 | blondie | /var/log/ |
| 19:27.48 | Ronin | Miesco: ignore Guerin, theyre in a bad mood today :) |
| 19:28.08 | blondie | I telnet to my imap server, using ssl |
| 19:28.09 | abrotman | HyperDevil: pidof ? |
| 19:28.27 | Miesco | Ronin: Do you know how to put evolution in the tray? |
| 19:28.29 | HyperDevil | abrotman: thats almost the same as pgrep |
| 19:28.45 | amphi | tray? |
| 19:28.47 | HyperDevil | i just dont know why my if else doesnt work |
| 19:28.49 | Miesco | Cause kmail isn't going in the lastest gnome, it just goes to a small window |
| 19:28.51 | Ronin | Miesco: no ive never tried it, tried thier iec channel |
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| 19:29.00 | Skiver | bts rocks. |
| 19:29.01 | blondie | Miesco: what tray? |
| 19:29.01 | HyperDevil | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4879 |
| 19:29.24 | Miesco | Yea I know |
| 19:29.26 | Ronin | small window? |
| 19:29.32 | Miesco | Yea on the top left of the screen |
| 19:29.42 | abrotman | HyperDevil: did you ask #bash ? |
| 19:29.42 | Ronin | so expand/enlarge it |
| 19:29.52 | HyperDevil | they will not answer me |
| 19:30.03 | Miesco | Ronin: Why is the icon in a window, shouldn't it be on the tray at the top right? |
| 19:30.08 | Guerin | Miesco: a kde app won't understand the gnome system tray |
| 19:30.23 | Guerin | HyperDevil: wait |
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| 19:30.39 | Guerin | HyperDevil: also run your script with -x, see what stops and why |
| 19:30.41 | abrotman | HyperDevil: then try ##linux |
| 19:30.44 | mc__ | blondie: do you know how to enable following symbolic links? |
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| 19:31.00 | Guerin | mc__: read httpd.apache.org |
| 19:31.05 | blondie | mc__: not ottomh, read the manual or conf file |
| 19:31.10 | mc__ | Guerin: ty |
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| 19:32.11 | aarkerio | Hi! somebody is using ipodlinux in your ipod? |
| 19:32.32 | frafra | aarkerio: I've used it. now i'm using rockbox + ipodloader2 |
| 19:32.39 | aarkerio | aaallll my music is in Ogg Vorbis |
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| 19:33.06 | frafra | ok, it play :) |
| 19:33.06 | aarkerio | frafra, what rockbox is? |
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| 19:33.17 | frafra | rockbox is an opensource proiect for ipod and other mp3 players |
| 19:34.11 | davi | Updating to etch gets the Xorg process and all the graphic applications very very CPU hungry. My PC is unusable. |
| 19:34.19 | aarkerio | thx! i will check |
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| 19:35.14 | Eddy | nabend |
| 19:35.36 | Guerin | davi: what x driver?> |
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| 19:39.34 | frafra | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4880 |
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| 19:41.59 | Miesco | How do I find out whats using my soundcard? |
| 19:42.19 | Guerin | stupid iceweasel won't use my existing .mozilla/firefox dir |
| 19:42.36 | Guerin | Miesco: alsa or oss? |
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| 19:42.51 | cydork | Guerin: what does it use? .mozilla/iceweasel? :P |
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| 19:43.01 | Miesco | Guerin: alsa |
| 19:43.02 | Guerin | cydork: apparently not |
| 19:43.24 | Guerin | Miesco: dunno then. |
| 19:43.30 | Miesco | Guerin: Fine oss |
| 19:44.11 | cbr | isnt it in etch already? |
| 19:44.15 | blondie | no |
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| 19:45.37 | Miesco | There's a command its like fuser or something |
| 19:45.48 | Miesco | fuser /dev/dsp? |
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| 19:46.32 | cydork | Miesco: use alsa then :P |
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| 19:47.44 | Miesco | cydork: How do I check it with alsa? |
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| 19:48.17 | Miesco | Wait I got it |
| 19:48.22 | cydork | Miesco: na i am just saying oss is almost dead. you can check it with the fuser it self |
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| 19:49.27 | pablo | hi, i configured the wireless and everithing seems to be right, how do i enable the use of that interface? |
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| 19:50.30 | cydork | pablo: read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian :P |
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| 19:52.50 | pablo | cydork: ok, i read it, but is only configuration of the /etc/network/interfaces and i already did so |
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| 19:53.13 | cydork | pablo: now what's the problem then? |
| 19:53.42 | mc__ | i set up an apache vhost like this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38271/ |
| 19:53.50 | mc__ | the directory is chmod 666 |
| 19:53.58 | mc__ | but it still says no permission |
| 19:54.10 | pablo | cydork: dont know |
| 19:54.31 | cydork | pablo: i mean can you explain a bit more about the problem? |
| 19:55.04 | pablo | cydork: i have everything working but it doesnt connects |
| 19:55.31 | Falkon | does anyone know what the deal with apt is? I do an apt-get update and at some point it just freezes there. It doesn't hose the system, just freezes in downloading the updates |
| 19:55.38 | cydork | pablo: you mean dhclient? |
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| 19:55.56 | pablo | cydork: neither by dhcp nor by static ip |
| 19:56.24 | pablo | cydork: i do ping 192.168.1.1 and i loss all packages |
| 19:56.28 | cydork | pablo: do you see a ap in iwlist scan? |
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| 19:57.27 | usr_rob | thx alot to the one who posted this: "m-a -l `uname -r` prepare; m-a -l `uname -r` a-i ipw3945" |
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| 19:58.13 | the_mug | hola friends! |
| 19:58.22 | pablo | cydork: yes |
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| 19:58.48 | the_mug | I installed fbgrab... yet there's nothing on /dev/fb0 is there anything I need to do to be able to capture the framebuffer? |
| 19:58.59 | cydork | pablo: type iwconfig <efname> essid <id> |
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| 19:59.14 | cydork | pablo: and then dhclient <ifname> |
| 19:59.14 | Falkon | have debian repositories gone retarded? |
| 19:59.16 | Falkon | bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; |
| 19:59.22 | Falkon | what is that about? |
| 19:59.37 | rahul | Falkon: you porbably downloaded in the middle of themirror syncing |
| 19:59.47 | Falkon | oh |
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| 20:00.13 | aarkerio | pablo: what wireless card? |
| 20:00.14 | Falkon | rahul: my other computer, apt-get update freezes at 99%, knwo what that's about? |
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| 20:00.25 | pablo | aarkerio: it is detected the driver is ok |
| 20:00.29 | rahul | Falkon: 99% doing what? |
| 20:00.35 | cydork | Falkon: try another mirror |
| 20:00.49 | Falkon | I would figure the kernel.org mirror is good one |
| 20:00.53 | JohnDoe591 | JohnDoe591 Soe castoff the_mug aramxar usr_rob cga caplink811-log mirezwer Falkon pablo abchirk [wz]MaC baroni sussi HymnToLife jelly-home xkill_ anapivirtua |capiira ShdB byon abec schnucki loca| b0nn aarkerio lunatico jplibre kamuix tombs Tidus cydork redguy csy zinx @ChanServ Jussi cqst barbo idleo Miesco Suprano TerminX jatt rbonnin rude lordlamer Smooph zetetic__ bier_ SerajewelKS clem_ pingouin zamaliphe faw |
| 20:00.54 | abchirk | !ops [R]uDe-[G]iRL spam on join...blabla |
| 20:00.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abchirk complains about: [R]uDe-[G]iRL spam on join...blabla |
| 20:00.55 | Falkon | I think all my mirrors are bad |
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| 20:01.15 | cydork | !ops JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: cydork complains about: JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.17 | mijndert | wow |
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| 20:01.22 | ole | !op JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.22 | dpkg | spamming the channel #debian |
| 20:01.24 | JohnDoe591 | kritical ofer0 Caelum phated pnrfne SJr|Work geo-rge markw Misnix HardDisk_WP nextstate cyzie mmirko Flimzy roe_ Wyzard cougar` Notorious Guerin Red_muzA omry heanol diskus tabris|away com4 aliasd KLD gcbirzan vulture jair XSoul Kage` dort plundra keram scanf mutante_ alindeman lowstream xsdg herfer Hydroxide Edward_TLS Bracki syntaxis faked pseubodot Hadaka erxz_paste peterS dimm0k bloo_sky roo9 karsten rox djace |
| 20:01.24 | malverian | What the hell is with all of these spammers? |
| 20:01.24 | Falkon | someone's about to get banned |
| 20:01.25 | the_mug | ops? |
| 20:01.25 | MatBoy | ah nice I have a fan again :D |
| 20:01.29 | JohnDoe591 | Kobaz cmeme Ra1stlin petemc keith80403 js_ Langer port7 Wink|Work Amorphous Deepa|AFK Ferret ralf-x suteri_ asg theklone ApTek dondelelcaro BlueByte tomaw shay dmc Supaplex tarzeau atrus minerale xorix Teppich scoopex jkdsoft EnterUserName panthera Locke0 Piggy sussudio |ryan| numist slummer Fox xfli Pryon Eclipser k31th tonyb2006 buu smacnay cureless yacc lws__ lee Rockj GTX znx rshakin aidehua bam sha1sum Slaught |
| 20:01.30 | RealBorg | *sigh* |
| 20:01.30 | ole | !ops JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: ole complains about: JohnDoe591 is spamming |
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| 20:01.36 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 20:01.39 | JohnDoe591 | cusco FliesLikeABrick dan2 jduckles th1 goldfish654 nevyn jdhutchin1 bvs tasata xvlun Coweater Knight_Lord vivithemage avtobiff Kim^J iswm mfi_ moshii RinzeWind Kerr disasm Malagmyr rvalles shogunx hodgman De_Mon Kevin` jonas21 spo0nman yang Gokee2 fbhjr predder ircminer03 gartt jabular jooopyme hooya dawg IRCArch Adrian kala sharky_ regis sparr Sneg lunaphyte ninja_ Doat @debhelper |
| 20:01.40 | aarkerio | I am asking you the model because my BCM4318 never could manage the WEP |
| 20:01.40 | malverian | !ops JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: malverian complains about: JohnDoe591 is spamming |
| 20:01.40 | kritical | >_> |
| 20:01.41 | setog3 | ho someone speak to me the first time thx ! |
| 20:01.42 | DoberMann | !kick JohnDoe591 spamming |
| 20:01.42 | Amorphous | *sigh* |
| 20:01.44 | *** part/#debian JohnDoe591 (i=577be443@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net/x-851f08e4b621dde0) |
| 20:01.44 | itchi | Use /ignore bastard |
| 20:01.48 | BlueByte | thx |
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| 20:01.54 | cydork | asshole |
| 20:01.54 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 20:01.57 | MatBoy | kewl |
| 20:01.58 | Malagmyr | Why do people do these things?! |
| 20:01.58 | aarkerio | pablo: I am asking you the model because my BCM4318 never could manage the WEP |
| 20:01.59 | cga | !ban him!! |
| 20:02.00 | Malagmyr | Why oh why? |
| 20:02.03 | Malagmyr | Why bloody bother? |
| 20:02.06 | Mazingaro | is there a date for the 64bit release of debian? |
| 20:02.09 | fireba11 | i'm wohndering why they keep doing that .. it's pointless |
| 20:02.10 | kspath | interesting attack knew to space them out in time and one liners |
| 20:02.14 | malverian | Why are there so many spammers on this channel? |
| 20:02.16 | TerminX | Malagmyr: it's the not-so-elusive cocksucker gene |
| 20:02.16 | |desus| | JohnDoe591, ja deu essa bunda gorda hoje? |
| 20:02.18 | RealBorg | someone having his icbm coordinates and access to the pentagon mainframe? :) |
| 20:02.18 | MatBoy | DoberMann, are you an op ? |
| 20:02.19 | pablo | aarkerio: linksys wpc11 |
| 20:02.20 | DarkCow | "/stats p" gives you a list of on-duty opers |
| 20:02.23 | DoberMann | MatBoy: not |
| 20:02.23 | freeone3000 | Mazingaro: There's already a 64-bit release. |
| 20:02.25 | the_mug | hey.. I installed fbgrab... yet there's nothing on /dev/fb0 is there anything I need to do to be able to capture the framebuffer? |
| 20:02.39 | MatBoy | DoberMann, can everyone do that to a spammer ? |
| 20:02.41 | the_mug | I'm needing to capture my install process :-/ |
| 20:02.43 | Mazingaro | freeone3000: not the official one |
| 20:02.46 | aramxar | ??? |
| 20:02.49 | cast | Mazingaro: well if AMD64 is in etch..then when etch is released wouldn't that be it? |
| 20:02.58 | sparrw | does !ops just say all the ops names so they will get a highlight beep? |
| 20:02.58 | itchi | the_mug: Use qemu or look on osdir website for screenshots |
| 20:03.00 | MatBoy | ow damn, he was leaving :) |
| 20:03.11 | aarkerio | do you "iwconfig eth1 key restricted blablabvlabla" right? |
| 20:03.13 | DoberMann | have your ever heard of an etch problem : the second network interface was automatically called eth1_rename Oo |
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| 20:03.18 | the_mug | qemu. cool |
| 20:03.20 | the_mug | thanks |
| 20:03.22 | DoberMann | MatBoy: i did'nt do anything |
| 20:03.29 | itchi | the_mug: It's vitualisation ... |
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| 20:03.35 | MatBoy | DoberMann, It looked like :) |
| 20:03.43 | DoberMann | :) |
| 20:03.44 | freeone3000 | Mazingaro: There is a complete 64-bit official repository in at least unstable, probably testing as well. |
| 20:03.53 | kspath | the_mug, it does virtualization as well |
| 20:04.03 | itchi | DoberMann: I got the same trouble here |
| 20:04.07 | DoberMann | ah |
| 20:04.08 | Mazingaro | freeone3000: I'm going to download it then |
| 20:04.10 | itchi | DoberMann: And got you it working too? |
| 20:04.17 | DoberMann | yes |
| 20:04.26 | itchi | DoberMann: Hhmm, chance, me not yet |
| 20:04.28 | DoberMann | the hardest was to find the name "eth1_rename" |
| 20:04.41 | Falkon | okay, kernel.org mirror is just retarded or something |
| 20:04.47 | Falkon | it keeps erroring out |
| 20:04.49 | DoberMann | i haven't tried to rename it |
| 20:04.57 | itchi | DoberMann: Got you it only with the .18 kernel? |
| 20:05.10 | Falkon | jesus christ, debian.crosslink.net can't find the etc release |
| 20:05.10 | Falkon | ? |
| 20:05.25 | itchi | Falkon: etch |
| 20:05.29 | DoberMann | in fact that was a fresh install and i didn't try any other kernel |
| 20:06.07 | Falkon | itchi: yeah |
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| 20:06.12 | DoberMann | and that seems to append only with 686 kernel : another box installed the same way has not the problem |
| 20:06.27 | itchi | DoberMann: Hhhmm, yeah, i got it here with an .18 kernel But have not yet look futher, gona next time i have a bit spare time ;-) |
| 20:06.27 | DoberMann | in 486 kernel |
| 20:06.46 | Mazingaro | freeone3000: is there a netinst cd image too? |
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| 20:07.11 | itchi | Falkon: So solved? |
| 20:07.15 | Falkon | itchi: Err http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Packages 404 Not Found |
| 20:07.34 | itchi | Falkon: I dunno about that mirror, maybe take another one |
| 20:07.46 | Falkon | that's what I'm doing |
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| 20:07.54 | blondie | fucking spamming retards |
| 20:07.56 | wwallace_lap | why my vmware doesnt |
| 20:07.58 | wwallace_lap | work? |
| 20:08.02 | Falkon | I had to remove kernel.org, because it's throwing bzip2 errors |
| 20:08.05 | abrotman | ask #vmware |
| 20:08.05 | wwallace_lap | it says command not found |
| 20:08.07 | itchi | blondie: biep biep did it :-p |
| 20:08.10 | rahul | wwallace_lap: because it's not a debian package |
| 20:08.13 | blondie | o.o |
| 20:08.18 | unlink | install-info(/usr/share/info/gzip.info): warning, ignoring confusing INFO-DIR-ENTRY in file. No `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' and no `This file documents'. |
| 20:08.19 | rahul | damn it |
| 20:08.21 | wwallace_lap | well it was installed |
| 20:08.25 | rahul | why is my left nipple sore? |
| 20:08.25 | wwallace_lap | and it was working |
| 20:08.31 | abrotman | ask #vmware .. not our problem |
| 20:08.34 | blondie | wwallace_lap: vmware isn't in debian so how should we know? |
| 20:08.36 | rahul | wwallace_lap: and what did you change? fix it |
| 20:08.38 | kspath | rahul, quit biting it |
| 20:08.39 | abrotman | and you're probably on kanotix anyways |
| 20:08.41 | the_mug | itchi: i think that's what I want... just an emulation of the install for documentation purposes. |
| 20:08.42 | wwallace_lap | oh shit |
| 20:08.44 | the_mug | itchi: thanks! |
| 20:08.45 | wwallace_lap | this is debian |
| 20:08.46 | wwallace_lap | sorry |
| 20:08.58 | itchi | the_mug: But take an look to osdir too ;-) |
| 20:09.01 | itchi | !osdir |
| 20:09.01 | dpkg | well, osdir is many screenshots of differents distro's/stuff see at http://shots.osdir.com/ |
| 20:09.04 | rahul | kspath: I'm not that flexible! |
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| 20:09.21 | itchi | the_mug: Probably there are already captures of what you want |
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| 20:10.01 | zamaliphe | what is the unicod console font in pkg name in debian ? |
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| 20:11.51 | piper69 | hello folks |
| 20:11.56 | piper69 | happy holidays |
| 20:12.06 | abrotman | happy? |
| 20:12.12 | abrotman | apparently you're not trying to fly to denver! |
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| 20:12.40 | smacnay | to rename a bunch of files with a letter precursor, sequential numbers, and similar extenzion... can mv z[*].zzz p[*].jpg work? |
| 20:13.19 | rahul | smacnay: use the rename command |
| 20:13.19 | smacnay | where [*] are the sequential numbers I need to keep intact. |
| 20:13.19 | rahul | mv doesn't do parallel moves |
| 20:13.20 | Guerin | smacnay: use rename |
| 20:13.20 | cydork | piper69: for christ sake say merry christmas :P |
| 20:13.21 | DoberMann | itchi: i'va just checked : both a .18 kernels, and the problem appears only on the 686 version, not on the 486 one |
| 20:13.26 | DoberMann | *are |
| 20:13.29 | smacnay | rahul: I used that and something happened when changing P* to p* where everything got named z* |
| 20:13.40 | rahul | smacnay: or for i in `seq 1 10000`; mv blah$i.bleh foo$i.jpg |
| 20:13.44 | rahul | ;done |
| 20:13.50 | cydork | smacnay: check rename |
| 20:13.55 | itchi | DoberMann: Heh, weird, here it is with .18 :-° |
| 20:13.56 | piper69 | cydork: Merry Christmas |
| 20:14.13 | piper69 | abrotman: denver eh |
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| 20:14.27 | piper69 | abrotman: i heared the the airport is closed |
| 20:14.28 | cydork | piper69: dont you watch the daily show or something? :P |
| 20:14.51 | craigevil | wish we were getting snow, all we are getting is rain, not going to feel like christmas without snow |
| 20:15.08 | piper69 | cydork: am not a news guy, why whats goining on, did they change christmas time now or what? |
| 20:15.15 | rahul | it is insanely warm |
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| 20:15.32 | cydork | piper69: nevermind :P |
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| 20:15.38 | freeone3000 | It's 62F here. Dun't think we're getting snow anytime soon. |
| 20:15.52 | Guerin | we have an antarctic southerly preventing me from fishing |
| 20:16.05 | perlmonk | 38C here |
| 20:16.07 | freeone3000 | "The Daily Show" is about as accurate as Fox News and almost as entertaining. |
| 20:16.09 | Guerin | and I have to spend most of the christmas-NY gap in a canoe |
| 20:16.14 | perlmonk | Never snows here :P |
| 20:16.19 | piper69 | cydork: ok |
| 20:16.26 | cydork | perlmonk: where the hell is that? sahara? |
| 20:16.32 | Guerin | perlmonk: brazil? |
| 20:16.34 | perlmonk | brasil |
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| 20:16.36 | perlmonk | :P |
| 20:16.43 | bobbyz | the daily show is amazing. I love that show! :) |
| 20:16.50 | Guerin | ah, i'd love to go to brazil |
| 20:17.01 | piper69 | anyways i want to ask is there is a googletalk pkdg |
| 20:17.04 | abrotman | piper69: duh |
| 20:17.20 | craigevil | gaim works with googletalk |
| 20:17.21 | Guerin | perlmonk: no, because googletalk is just a jabber client |
| 20:17.26 | smacnay | thanks |
| 20:17.26 | cydork | piper69: nope use gaim or any other jabber compatible client |
| 20:17.27 | perlmonk | Well Guerin I guess you've helped me enough as I was begining in debian to get an invitation |
| 20:17.28 | Guerin | bah |
| 20:17.35 | Guerin | piper69: |
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| 20:17.49 | Guerin | perlmonk: heh. I'll get back to you after my thesis. |
| 20:17.52 | smacnay | the rename command is the perl script, correct? |
| 20:17.59 | cydork | smacnay: yep |
| 20:18.02 | perlmonk | Guerin, Ok, get back to me |
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| 20:18.12 | smacnay | there isn't much documentation with that. |
| 20:18.13 | Guerin | (for which I was declined a sc holarship yesterday, so I have to pay for it myself) |
| 20:18.34 | itchi | DoberMann: Hhhhmm, get it with the .17 also now |
| 20:18.34 | piper69 | abrotman: why you duh me |
| 20:18.34 | Guerin | smacnay: 's/foo/bar' |
| 20:18.35 | abrotman | yes it's closed |
| 20:18.44 | DoberMann | itchi: 686 version ? |
| 20:19.25 | itchi | DoberMann: 2.6.17-686 (custom, but same config + scsi and sata support, so it's near the stock one) |
| 20:19.28 | cast | what's the kde equiv of gnome-system-monitor? |
| 20:19.41 | DoberMann | itchi: k |
| 20:20.26 | piper69 | cydork: will gaim work for googletalk thu? |
| 20:20.26 | DoberMann | mine are not customised |
| 20:20.27 | itchi | DoberMann: I need it for the sata hdd and dvd, the .18 have it build in now |
| 20:20.27 | kspath | piper69 you could have already tried it do it do it NOW |
| 20:20.27 | cydork | piper69: chat yes. talk no.. |
| 20:20.30 | itchi | DoberMann: It's an new laptop |
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| 20:20.44 | cydork | pipeline: for talking google for tapioca |
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| 20:21.02 | bathat | someone mentioned my nick? |
| 20:21.12 | itchi | bathat: No worry, a spammer |
| 20:21.19 | bathat | oh alright ;) |
| 20:22.12 | abrotman | might with gaim-vv |
| 20:22.41 | Guerin | hah, stupid gpg: |
| 20:22.44 | Guerin | Key is valid for? (0) 100y |
| 20:22.47 | Guerin | Key expires at Thu 22 Oct 1970 01:57:24 NZST |
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| 20:25.04 | DoberMann | itchi: in fact you can rename it via /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
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| 20:26.55 | geo-rge | Malagmyr: why do birds suddenly appear? |
| 20:27.04 | PerlSaiyan | anywhere to get a 64-bit intel sarge CD with 2.6.19 kernel to install to a 3ware 9650SE? |
| 20:27.06 | Malagmyr | geo-rge: they do? |
| 20:27.11 | smacnay | for rename, where do I learn about the perl expressions allowed? sed? |
| 20:27.35 | geo-rge | (about: "why do people do these things" wrt nick spammer) |
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| 20:28.36 | damnage_hack | hi. how can i receive some files send from my handy via bluetooth to the debian box? |
| 20:29.02 | abrotman | !bluetooth |
| 20:29.02 | dpkg | bluetooth is probably , like, a wireless communications protocol, or http://bluetooth.com/ or about as secure as shouting, or apt-get install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. |
| 20:29.19 | geo-rge | shouting is secure?? |
| 20:29.26 | Malagmyr | geo-rge: well, that people do those things is a provable fact. i've never seen a bird spawn out of nowhere. their spawn point is usually right around the corner. |
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| 20:29.42 | piper69 | kspath: what are you trying to say |
| 20:29.47 | nk | why isn't there an apt-setup in etch any more?? |
| 20:29.56 | geo-rge | just out of sight, yeah... we never get to see the magixc |
| 20:30.27 | geo-rge | !find apt-setup etch |
| 20:30.36 | kspath | piper69: I was trying to say you could have tried most/all the chat clients and read all about them by now |
| 20:30.38 | jelly | Hi, how can I make my machine run /usr/bin/s2ram when I close the lid? I'm using testing. |
| 20:30.39 | Malagmyr | geo-rge: some of them tend to disappear when big things like helicopters crash into tall office buildings making them all wavy, though. |
| 20:30.52 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apt-setup' (3): (/usr/share/fish/completions/apt-setup.fish) in shells/fish ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd ;; (/usr/share/doc/dahb-html/html/apt-setup.html, /usr/share/doc/dahb-html/html/bilder/instweiter/apt-setup.png) in non-free/doc/dahb-html. |
| 20:31.07 | kspath | piper69, that is what I did. I tried every one of them |
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| 20:31.41 | copyofacopy | hi |
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| 20:32.04 | Malagmyr | HELLO, COPYOFACOPY! SO GOOD TO SEE YOU! REALLY! |
| 20:32.15 | piper69 | kspath: and that was excatly what am doing trying to see if i can chat using my google talk account on gaim |
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| 20:35.31 | damnage_hack | abrotman, this information do not help me a lot |
| 20:35.38 | abrotman | who what? |
| 20:35.55 | copyofacopy | I downloaded debian etch rc1 netinst iso. I have a compaq proliant dl580 server. it has a smart array (though with only one disc. I made a logical disk in the smart array configuration). I started the debian installer. it seemed to find the harddrive: /dev/ida/c0d0 - 0B0 Compaq Smart Array - when it comes to partitioning the harddisk I get "unable to determine geometry of file/device. you should not use parted unless you really |
| 20:35.55 | copyofacopy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:36.09 | damnage_hack | bluetooth from dpkg |
| 20:36.26 | abrotman | oh |
| 20:36.33 | abrotman | do you have bluetooth on your desktop ? |
| 20:37.02 | damnage_hack | my question was how to get files from my handy to my desktop pc |
| 20:37.26 | damnage_hack | the way from pc to handy works with obexfs |
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| 20:37.57 | PerlSaiyan | anyone install 64 bit sarge on 9650SE 3ware ? |
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| 20:40.48 | nk | so I have to install apt-setup manually? |
| 20:40.51 | nk | daman, this sucks |
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| 20:41.25 | petemc | copyofacopy: i have a few machines with smart array, they all use /dev/ida/c0d0pN - do you know what B0 means? |
| 20:41.53 | copyofacopy | petemc, no. I don't have a clue? |
| 20:42.07 | rahul | petemc: B? |
| 20:42.16 | rahul | oh |
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| 20:42.59 | rahul | petemc: well, it's probably some hex for some id code |
| 20:43.12 | petemc | fair enough, ive just never seen it |
| 20:43.18 | petemc | or heard of it |
| 20:43.22 | rahul | I've never paid attention to that line :) |
| 20:43.25 | rahul | it always just worked :) |
| 20:43.28 | petemc | yes |
| 20:43.45 | petemc | apart from recent etch cds not recognising the controller after first reboot |
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| 20:44.00 | petemc | an initrd rebuild fixes that |
| 20:44.05 | rahul | heh lovely |
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| 20:45.17 | Str0m | hi i get this error when trying to use perl... |
| 20:45.18 | Str0m | You don't have permission to access /mysqldumper/msd_cron/perltest.pl on this server. |
| 20:45.18 | Str0m | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 20:45.18 | Str0m | Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/5.2.0-7 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at pottersiden.dk Port 80 |
| 20:45.18 | *** kick/#debian [Str0m!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
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| 20:45.23 | Str0m | sorry |
| 20:45.28 | abrotman | !paster |
| 20:45.28 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 20:45.32 | Str0m | it should have pasted the pastebin link |
| 20:45.38 | abrotman | and mr. thurman wants his name back |
| 20:45.44 | Str0m | hehe |
| 20:45.49 | Str0m | http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2588 |
| 20:45.52 | rahul | does he know his own name? |
| 20:45.56 | Str0m | that was the link it should have pasted |
| 20:46.07 | rahul | he's probably too senile to know his name |
| 20:46.09 | abrotman | okay .. so fix the perms |
| 20:46.16 | abrotman | rahul: he's dead |
| 20:46.21 | rahul | oh right |
| 20:46.37 | Str0m | well abrotman i already chmodded it 777 |
| 20:46.37 | copyofacopy | should I probably get a debian 3.1r4 stable and try that one out? :> |
| 20:46.49 | rahul | that was a while ago |
| 20:47.10 | petemc | copyofacopy: that, or double check what you did to create the array |
| 20:47.19 | copyofacopy | ok |
| 20:47.20 | rahul | Str0m: it's not those perms, it's the ones in the apache config |
| 20:47.33 | copyofacopy | I'll check and get it. thanks |
| 20:47.40 | Str0m | eh.. |
| 20:47.45 | Str0m | ahhh |
| 20:47.50 | Str0m | i remember a little now:D |
| 20:48.52 | copyofacopy | ok the smart array configuration tool says the generated logical drive is ok.. well I get the stable then. |
| 20:48.57 | rahul | that hair of the dog worked wonders |
| 20:49.14 | Guerin | mm, doghair |
| 20:49.32 | rahul | about half a shot of vodka down the trap and the other half just left to evaporate for a while and then spit out |
| 20:49.51 | rahul | actually, maybe it was a whole shot of each, dunno |
| 20:49.52 | Guerin | rahul: smoke a joint andf go back to bed, ftw |
| 20:49.55 | Str0m | thx |
| 20:49.56 | rahul | heh |
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| 20:50.04 | rahul | yeah, I needed a joint last night |
| 20:50.11 | rahul | would have prevented this whole thing |
| 20:50.25 | Guerin | i get hangovers only when I've been practically dead the night before |
| 20:50.39 | rahul | heh |
| 20:50.41 | Guerin | i blame my scottish, irish, dutch and belgian ancestors |
| 20:50.46 | rahul | I suspect I was pretty bad last night |
| 20:50.47 | rahul | haha |
| 20:51.02 | rahul | the dutch aren't big drinkers are they? |
| 20:51.28 | Guerin | not as big as the french or british |
| 20:51.29 | rahul | canadians make good belgianesque beers |
| 20:51.49 | rahul | Guerin: and those arne't even that big drinkers, when you're comparing to irish and scottish :) |
| 20:52.06 | blondie | rahul: scottish ARE british, duh |
| 20:52.07 | cydork | or spanish :) |
| 20:52.28 | Guerin | heh |
| 20:52.31 | Guerin | but the irish aren't |
| 20:52.35 | rahul | my half german, half irish friend says I'm honorarily part irish :P |
| 20:52.40 | Guerin | heh |
| 20:52.42 | rahul | blondie: eh, bleh |
| 20:52.43 | blondie | well... they used to be ;) |
| 20:52.45 | piper69 | abrotman: i got my laptop to work with the orinoco |
| 20:52.52 | piper69 | !exchange mail |
| 20:52.54 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
| 20:52.58 | Guerin | blondie: some argue they still are, since it's te British Isles |
| 20:53.06 | blondie | well yes |
| 20:53.09 | blondie | but not legally :P |
| 20:53.09 | Guerin | !botsnack |
| 20:53.09 | dpkg | :), Guerin |
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| 20:54.53 | zinx | rE: the names flooder.. just ban gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net :/ |
| 20:54.57 | zinx | erh, 're:' |
| 20:55.32 | piper69 | how can i read mail from my exchange server |
| 20:56.09 | rahul | haha |
| 20:56.13 | rahul | piper69: enable IMAP on it |
| 20:56.30 | eduhat | how would i install a .deb file? |
| 20:56.37 | abrotman | piper69: yay? |
| 20:56.40 | rahul | eduhat: why not use apt? |
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| 20:56.50 | Guerin | !tell eduhat about grounding |
| 20:56.50 | piper69 | rahul: what demond i shoud use or what apllication |
| 20:56.54 | abrotman | piper69: data connector from novell |
| 20:56.57 | abrotman | or imap |
| 20:56.59 | Guerin | piper69: talk to your admin |
| 20:57.00 | k-man | is there a way to make acrobat remember your print settings like page size? |
| 20:57.10 | Guerin | k-man: eeewcrobat! |
| 20:57.12 | rahul | piper69: the server admin has to turn on imap |
| 20:57.17 | Guerin | k-man: ask macdobedia |
| 20:57.31 | eduhat | rahul: because the package is not there |
| 20:57.37 | piper69 | rahul: i am the admin |
| 20:57.39 | rahul | eduhat: man dpkg |
| 20:57.40 | geo-rge | chester! |
| 20:57.41 | eduhat | rahul: i had to download the file it self |
| 20:57.44 | rahul | piper69: so act like it :) |
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| 20:57.50 | piper69 | rahul: hahaha |
| 20:58.00 | rahul | piper69: admin away! |
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| 20:58.21 | geo-rge | remember... NEVER point that webmin unless you're prepared to shoot |
| 20:58.27 | piper69 | rahul: but the thing is we don't use linux here at work, i have setup this box just for fun |
| 20:58.38 | piper69 | and learning too |
| 20:58.40 | k-man | Guerin, is there something better to use than acrobat under linux? |
| 20:58.51 | Guerin | geo-rge: sign in a cambodian firing range: `Do not point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.' |
| 20:59.03 | geo-rge | exactly |
| 20:59.17 | Guerin | k-man: practically anything; evince is the least crap at the moment, though it does require most of gnome |
| 20:59.19 | cureless | k-man: define better |
| 20:59.23 | rahul | k-man: gv and xpdf |
| 20:59.27 | rahul | cureless: not acrobat :) |
| 21:00.02 | Guerin | geo-rge: doesn't specify WHAT you shouldn't point it at, though |
| 21:00.09 | k-man | cureless, something that does not make guerin go "eeewcrobat!" |
| 21:00.09 | Misnix | the british are not great drinkers, they're great binge drinkers and pukers, they drink less than the european average ;) |
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| 21:00.14 | rahul | Misnix: essakly |
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| 21:00.16 | rahul | they're not even as good as camels |
| 21:00.36 | CharminTheMoose | what are you on about rahul? |
| 21:00.38 | CharminTheMoose | moose rock |
| 21:00.43 | rahul | heh |
| 21:00.48 | HardDisk_WP | hi @ll |
| 21:00.55 | rahul | poor camel |
| 21:01.02 | rahul | he has such moose envy |
| 21:01.02 | piper69 | rahul: how can i setup a mail clinet in linux so that i can pull email from the exchange server here at work |
| 21:01.03 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knowing how to sort all poackages installed on a system grouped by source? |
| 21:01.08 | CharminTheMoose | heh |
| 21:01.12 | HardDisk_WP | (grouped by testing/stable/unstable) |
| 21:01.26 | rahul | piper69: just use IMAP |
| 21:01.26 | CharminTheMoose | rahul ya hunch backed arab |
| 21:01.31 | rahul | piper69: if you turned on the IMAP part of exchange server |
| 21:01.38 | CharminTheMoose | ouch |
| 21:01.44 | rahul | heh |
| 21:01.44 | CharminTheMoose | that may have been a bit to racial. |
| 21:01.46 | CharminTheMoose | meh |
| 21:02.04 | rahul | it's not about my race, anyway |
| 21:02.12 | geo-rge | piper69: you could just accept all messages onto a separate box that you control and put an imap server on it |
| 21:02.15 | Savage-{ | anybody got a link to a list of debian etch repositories? |
| 21:02.25 | Guerin | in what way is rahul an arab? |
| 21:02.33 | Guerin | Savage-{: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 21:02.38 | CharminTheMoose | rahul sounds somewhat arabian-ish |
| 21:02.40 | Savage-{ | thx :) |
| 21:02.41 | piper69 | rahul: ok what clinet i should use after i turn on how can i read it in my linux box |
| 21:02.45 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: wtf |
| 21:02.45 | rahul | I've never been to arabia actually |
| 21:02.49 | rahul | piper69: I use gnus |
| 21:02.51 | geo-rge | luhar? |
| 21:02.51 | piper69 | !email clinet |
| 21:02.57 | CharminTheMoose | that's just me y'know |
| 21:03.06 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: you must be American |
| 21:03.08 | rahul | luhar might sound arab, shrug |
| 21:03.09 | rahul | heh |
| 21:03.14 | madclicker | will soundblaster x-fi be supported by alsa or the kernel? |
| 21:03.17 | Misnix | a european drinks 10.8 liters of pure alcohol per person each year, the british drink less than that, 10.4, just slightly more than the dutch, (9.7) the Irish are in 3rd place (14.5)after the Luxemburgers (17.5) and the Czech |
| 21:03.25 | piper69 | !gnus |
| 21:03.25 | dpkg | gnus is probably the maddest message mangler that ever slurped mail spooled, yo mama uses it, and yo daddy uses it, and yo sistah is all up in that gnus, or like < jesdynf> caphuso: I want an NNTP client, not a battleship with a newsstand. |
| 21:03.25 | CharminTheMoose | Guerin:nope i'm from ireland |
| 21:03.34 | rahul | Misnix: lux, eh |
| 21:03.46 | rahul | haha |
| 21:03.58 | Misnix | 2001 data |
| 21:04.08 | rahul | I have no clue how much I drink |
| 21:04.08 | blondie | but how many litres? |
| 21:04.16 | geo-rge | mad massage? |
| 21:04.19 | pickcoder | hrm.. the S5000 nics weren't detected with etch beta2.. can't find my RC1 install CD |
| 21:04.20 | Guerin | it's funny, though, my wife works in the international payments dept of a bank, and there's a blacklist of `terrorist organisatins'. Anyone with an `arab-sounding' name. |
| 21:04.23 | geo-rge | 0 |
| 21:04.25 | rahul | maddest message mangler, bitches |
| 21:04.39 | rahul | it do crazy shiznit to yo email |
| 21:04.51 | geo-rge | mitch's maddest message mangling massager? |
| 21:05.00 | rahul | Guerin: heh, yeah, kinda silly |
| 21:05.02 | Guerin | but of course, as far as the pointy-haired eejits are concerned `arab' means anything from indonesia to west africa |
| 21:05.10 | rahul | haha |
| 21:05.20 | CharminTheMoose | what do people see in keyboard based window managers? |
| 21:05.20 | Guerin | the chinese are continually pissed off by their transactions not getting through |
| 21:05.30 | rahul | chinese? |
| 21:05.33 | rahul | holy crap |
| 21:05.36 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: no need to use mouse |
| 21:05.37 | rahul | CharminTheMoose: the screen |
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| 21:05.46 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: your hands are on the keyboard most often, why move them? |
| 21:05.59 | abrotman | HI |
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| 21:06.05 | rahul | I can use keyboard and mouse to control my WM |
| 21:06.17 | geo-rge | CharminTheMoose: some of them have less stuff to load than gnome or kde |
| 21:06.27 | Guerin | rahul: yeah. Cao Tzuen Bai is an arab name, apparently |
| 21:06.47 | CharminTheMoose | geo-rge,i'm trying a few out here and i can't seem to like them for some reason |
| 21:06.47 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knowing how to sort all poackages installed on a system grouped by source? |
| 21:06.48 | HardDisk_WP | (grouped by testing/stable/unstable) |
| 21:06.56 | rahul | Guerin: heh |
| 21:06.57 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: evilwm! |
| 21:06.59 | rahul | retards |
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| 21:07.09 | CharminTheMoose | i found one really lightweight wm |
| 21:07.14 | CharminTheMoose | called heliwm |
| 21:07.37 | Guerin | mm, i should try gnus |
| 21:07.40 | piper69 | !emacs21 |
| 21:07.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, emacs21 is add this line to your sources.list deb http://people.debian.org/~kitame/emacs21/ ./ |
| 21:07.40 | CharminTheMoose | 476kb packed as source |
| 21:07.42 | geo-rge | CharminTheMoose: ever tried sawfish or fvwm2? |
| 21:08.04 | CharminTheMoose | 128k with everything compiled in |
| 21:08.12 | CharminTheMoose | geo-rge:nope |
| 21:08.14 | CharminTheMoose | why> |
| 21:08.18 | CharminTheMoose | they any good? |
| 21:08.32 | amphi | CharminTheMoose: openbox works well for me, I can do everything by keyboard, or blunder abouut with the mouse, if I want to for some reason |
| 21:08.50 | tonyb2006 | tell me about doesn't work |
| 21:08.58 | rahul | sawfish is seriously configurable |
| 21:09.04 | tonyb2006 | @tell me about doesn't work |
| 21:09.06 | tonyb2006 | !tell me about doesn't work |
| 21:09.21 | geo-rge | CharminTheMoose: who knows |
| 21:09.39 | rahul | fvwm2 is configurable, but not nearly as much as sawfish |
| 21:09.57 | CharminTheMoose | it may be just me complaining here but everytime i apt-get swordfish and it's extra packages it doesn't even give me the bar underneath and stuff...pity |
| 21:09.58 | rahul | I started off as an fvwm2 user and swiched to englightenment, back to fvwm2, and then to sawfish |
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| 21:10.16 | CharminTheMoose | frickin' X screen |
| 21:10.17 | cureless | CharminTheMoose: in case you haven't visited the famous (old?) page... http://xwinman.org/ |
| 21:10.18 | eldowon | I am running sarge, kernel 2.6.8-3-686. I have been using this machine as a gateway for my network for many months, and in the past 2 days, throughput has declined to about 30% of normal. At my workstation, a file downloads about 30kBi/s, logging into the firewall, the same file downloads at 150kBi/s. no configuration has changed on the firewall. I am not sure what is going on, and any help would be greatly appreciated. |
| 21:10.30 | CharminTheMoose | cureless:oh i have. |
| 21:10.33 | CharminTheMoose | excellent site |
| 21:10.41 | cast | after e he went mad with contentment, hence the switching back to fvwm2 |
| 21:10.52 | rahul | heh |
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| 21:10.57 | rahul | no, e just was too flaky |
| 21:11.06 | cast | e16? |
| 21:11.22 | CharminTheMoose | i'm currently enjoying windowmaker here. |
| 21:11.23 | rahul | I think 17 was on its way when I switched yeah |
| 21:11.27 | CharminTheMoose | 'tis lovely |
| 21:11.34 | geo-rge | they're talkin about big window managers... e, wm, etc |
| 21:11.43 | geo-rge | fvwm is little, so is sawfish |
| 21:11.43 | rahul | I need something configurable |
| 21:11.45 | amphi | e 17 is still on its way... |
| 21:11.52 | rahul | amphi: hah really? |
| 21:11.55 | cast | amphi: compiling it right now :) |
| 21:12.10 | amphi | rahul: at least last time I checked, yeah |
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| 21:12.26 | rahul | figures |
| 21:12.31 | rahul | it kept losing my config |
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| 21:12.47 | rahul | and the config file format is binary shit |
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| 21:13.23 | CharminTheMoose | does sawfish come with any kind of n00b user friendly themes or something in .deb packages? |
| 21:13.44 | gouki | I'm having problems downloading from ftp.debian.org (stable). Can anyone tell me other repository? |
| 21:13.44 | amphi | rahul: I don't recall - it's long since I ran e - .15 or so I think |
| 21:13.46 | abrotman | there's a sawfish themes package |
| 21:13.51 | abrotman | gouki: apt-setup |
| 21:14.04 | gouki | thank you abrotman |
| 21:14.15 | rahul | amphi: I think 15 was text config, 16 went binary |
| 21:14.22 | amphi | rahul: sawfish is based on scheme? |
| 21:14.27 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knowing how to sort all poackages installed on a system grouped by source? |
| 21:14.29 | HardDisk_WP | (grouped by testing/stable/unstable) |
| 21:14.29 | rahul | CharminTheMoose: and a total camel all the time |
| 21:14.31 | rahul | amphi: nope |
| 21:14.38 | rahul | amphi: it's rep, a different kind of lisp |
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| 21:14.45 | rahul | amphi: vaguely like both scheme and CL |
| 21:14.57 | amphi | rahul: uhuh |
| 21:15.22 | rahul | has lots of CL stuff hacked into scheme syntax |
| 21:15.27 | rahul | it's kinda funny |
| 21:15.37 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: you can't |
| 21:15.39 | smacnay | I am playing with rename to learn how to use it. I have copied a bunch of files and am trying the following to rename their extensions only: " rename 's/jpg$/txt' p*.jpg " - I get this error -> "Substitution replacement not terminated at (eval 1) line 1." Am I doing something wrong or is there a glitch in the script on my computer? |
| 21:15.45 | geo-rge | CharminTheMoose: install it and see :) |
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| 21:18.02 | CharminTheMoose | time to check out sawfish |
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| 21:18.38 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, shit...b'cause I mixed all three sorts of packages on my system |
| 21:18.48 | cydork | damn i am in love with ion3 :P |
| 21:18.55 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, any way to downgrade all packages to stable? |
| 21:18.56 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: don't mix |
| 21:19.02 | abrotman | downgrade not possible |
| 21:19.12 | abrotman | not without *A LOT* of work |
| 21:19.31 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, well, with libattr1 I just downloaded the .deb, dpkg -i and that was it |
| 21:19.41 | abrotman | that's one thing |
| 21:19.47 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 21:20.07 | copyofacopy | d'oh |
| 21:20.15 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, only ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 21:20.19 | copyofacopy | with debian stable it seems to find the harddrive :) |
| 21:20.45 | geo-rge | kernels support hardware. not dists. |
| 21:21.12 | eldowon | ls |
| 21:21.12 | copyofacopy | ok .. but it works |
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| 21:21.25 | geo-rge | the kernel is what works |
| 21:21.36 | geo-rge | it doesnj't matter what's on top |
| 21:22.11 | geo-rge | have you considered reading the hardware compatibility list before you buy hardware? :) |
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| 21:22.21 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, is this bad if i only got this? |
| 21:22.23 | copyofacopy | well ok . .then the etch rc1 I dlded has a kernel which didn't support the hw . are we happy? |
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| 21:22.42 | Guerin | copyofacopy: but the stable kernel does? That shouldn't happen. |
| 21:22.48 | geo-rge | copyofacopy: we understand each other now :) |
| 21:22.48 | copyofacopy | yes |
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| 21:22.52 | Guerin | copyofacopy: what hardware? |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: you don't want to download to stable |
| 21:23.08 | pickcoder | linux-image-2.6-686-smp does not setup a kernel |
| 21:23.11 | abrotman | !info libc6 unstable |
| 21:23.17 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6.ds1-9 (sid), Packaged size: 4589 kB, Installed size: 11032 kB |
| 21:23.21 | copyofacopy | compaq proliant dl580 ... dunno which model the smart array controller is |
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| 21:23.53 | Guerin | oh gods, compaq |
| 21:23.53 | abrotman | !which driver |
| 21:23.53 | pickcoder | I have a dual-core Xeon box that I'm trying to configure |
| 21:23.53 | Guerin | !compaq |
| 21:23.53 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 21:23.53 | dpkg | it has been said that compaq is a bunch of evil bastards that ship machines with twisted and perverted BIOSes and NO fscking IDE controllers. now owned by hp |
| 21:23.53 | rahul | compaq servers are good |
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| 21:23.54 | geo-rge | !witch driver |
| 21:23.55 | Guerin | mm, there's a compaq-specific kernel range someplace |
| 21:23.58 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, i only want to get apt-get running without any dependency problem |
| 21:23.59 | rahul | drivers are open source |
| 21:24.10 | ita | i am getting this error "dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256" <- how to prevent dh_shlibdeps to run on some particular files ? |
| 21:24.11 | copyofacopy | thanks. but I'm using the stable release now .. with the kernel which supports the raid controller :) |
| 21:24.20 | CharminTheMoose | question:why the feck does sawfish only give me the pager and a grey X screen complete with X cursor? |
| 21:24.29 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: then run stable .. |
| 21:24.40 | abrotman | CharminTheMoose: it's just a window manager |
| 21:24.48 | abrotman | CharminTheMoose: hit the middle mouse button |
| 21:24.50 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, not possible, dependency problems...this is why i asked here... |
| 21:24.54 | geo-rge | copyofacopy: maybe you could consider learning to build kernels... it could help you in the future |
| 21:25.10 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: well ... guess you're kind of stuck then eh ? |
| 21:25.22 | copyofacopy | geo-rge, maybe I will. but not right now |
| 21:25.23 | amphi | CharminTheMoose: it's not it's job to do anything to the root window ;) |
| 21:25.23 | CharminTheMoose | ah |
| 21:25.31 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, yeah, especially b'cause I only have shell and re-installation costs me 10 Euros |
| 21:25.34 | CharminTheMoose | thanks for that guys |
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| 21:25.41 | HardDisk_WP | but i have root shell |
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| 21:25.49 | geo-rge | admittedly, building a kernel for an installer and producing that installer is harder |
| 21:25.54 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: i hope you've learned your lesson |
| 21:26.01 | HardDisk_WP | yes... |
| 21:26.42 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, i did...butis there any way to get a consistent system? |
| 21:26.50 | HardDisk_WP | i dont care how much work it costs |
| 21:27.19 | Guerin | rahul: give me your .gnus! |
| 21:27.27 | Guerin | i cba writing my own |
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| 21:27.43 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: not really ... |
| 21:27.43 | rahul | Guerin: er, that might not help you |
| 21:27.56 | Guerin | damnit |
| 21:28.07 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: you can track testing, switch to lenny when it's there .. and wait about three years |
| 21:28.07 | rahul | all it has is my nnml-split rules |
| 21:28.18 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, :-( |
| 21:28.21 | rahul | Guerin: I used customize for setting up the servers and settings |
| 21:28.29 | rahul | Guerin: and I dunno how that's gonna help you :P |
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| 21:28.42 | rahul | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.57 | rahul | Guerin: actually, that pattern might help you. it works for any mailman list server |
| 21:29.09 | rahul | if you use nnmail-split-fancy |
| 21:29.21 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, good night |
| 21:29.25 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
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| 21:30.33 | rahul | Guerin: and a useful header is X-Gnus-Mail-Source |
| 21:30.33 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, does this mean I have to recompile kernel? |
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| 21:30.34 | abrotman | no |
| 21:30.34 | rahul | Guerin: I put local system mails in a separate group |
| 21:30.34 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, ok, thx |
| 21:30.59 | Guerin | bah, there's some unspecified error in the file |
| 21:31.17 | rahul | Guerin: use customize. it's easier :) |
| 21:31.19 | abrotman | !tell HardDisk_WP about away |
| 21:31.28 | teledyn | 3 more hours until the new year! |
| 21:31.39 | Guerin | rahul: what is this customise, of which you speak? |
| 21:31.46 | rahul | Guerin: M-x customize |
| 21:31.55 | rahul | Guerin: you've never used emacs before? |
| 21:31.56 | Guerin | teledyn: the flat-earthers want their calendar back |
| 21:31.59 | Guerin | oh, ok |
| 21:32.01 | Guerin | duh |
| 21:32.04 | rahul | heh |
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| 21:32.14 | rahul | !emacssmite Guerin |
| 21:32.36 | teledyn | (the *real* new year, not the christian-calendar muckup one) |
| 21:32.58 | amphi | teledyn: the xians were not notable astronomers... |
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| 21:33.52 | karsten | teledyn: Um. What calendar? |
| 21:33.53 | minerale | I read somewhere how to make a make a makeshift webserver using only inetd.conf -- by adding a line such as: "www stream tcp wait nobody /bin/cat www /var/www/static.html" - except that I'm having odd trouble with it, it does not always work, just 20% of the reloads work |
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| 21:34.09 | gouki | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib and deb-src are the correct testing repositories? |
| 21:34.17 | cureless | teledyn: I still don't agree that this is the real new year. How about the solstice in June? Or the equinox in march? |
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| 21:35.20 | abrotman | gouki: do you weant to run testing or etch ? |
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| 21:36.02 | gouki | I'm running netinst, Sarge, but I want to use testing repositories for software |
| 21:36.29 | abrotman | you should probably use etch instead of testing |
| 21:37.04 | gouki | !d-i > gouki |
| 21:37.04 | dpkg | > gouki, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you've got hardware that the 3.1r3 installer doesn't support - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:37.13 | gouki | That's where I get it, right? |
| 21:37.24 | karsten | gouki: Do your install, then upgrade. |
| 21:37.54 | gouki | apt-get upgrade will install etch? |
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| 21:38.39 | karsten | gouki: It really doesn't matter what specific version of Debian you install so long as you have an upgrade path to current. Hell, you could probably install potato and go cleanly (if somewhat the long way around). One key: don't install the bulk of packages until you're at the release you want, as you'll just have that much more to reinstall. |
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| 21:38.50 | karsten | gouki: With the appropriate /etc/apt/sources.list, yes. |
| 21:39.16 | karsten | gouki: edit /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 21:40.11 | gouki | karsten: I'm the middle of a Sarge netinst installation. I can now manually configure /etc/apt/sources.list. What do you want me to enter? |
| 21:40.31 | karsten | gouki: What you need. |
| 21:40.33 | CharminTheMoose | hmm,isn't it theortically possible to upgrade/downgrade to any debian based distro by apt-getting it and therefore it throws out all the conflicting dependancies? |
| 21:40.42 | karsten | gouki: I can't spend time w/ you at present. Read the installation manual. |
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| 21:40.48 | karsten | gouki: ... or ask channel. |
| 21:40.51 | buu | So.. |
| 21:41.02 | gouki | Thank you. BRB |
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| 21:41.50 | buu | I'm running debootstrap on this weird dsl install, I'm trying to bootstrap an empty partition, but when I run debootstrap sarge /directory, but after lots of downloading and validating, I get an error like "Couldn't download console-tools-lib" |
| 21:42.06 | karsten | CharminTheMoose: The problem is that there are some upgrades which are easier to make than others. Any single-level upgrade _must_ be supported. 2-level upgrades (eg: skipping an intermediate release) usually works. One trick is to find a repo with the old packages from obsolete Debian versions. |
| 21:42.16 | cydork | buu: blame dsl :) |
| 21:42.19 | karsten | CharminTheMoose: Things like libc and perl updates are the biggies. |
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| 21:42.29 | buu | cydork: Well, yes, but why? |
| 21:42.33 | buu | cydork: And how can I fix it? |
| 21:42.44 | karsten | CharminTheMoose: ... seeing as the one affects pretty much everything, and the latter apt specifically (heavily Perl based). |
| 21:42.50 | buu | I'm using stable in my source list. |
| 21:43.01 | CharminTheMoose | karsten:perl?libc i can understand as it makes the Gnuniverse go round |
| 21:43.08 | cydork | buu: does that package exist in stable? |
| 21:43.17 | cydork | !info console-tools-lib sarge |
| 21:43.20 | Guerin | CharminTheMoose: debian's tools are mostly written in perl |
| 21:43.29 | CharminTheMoose | oh apt is written in perl> |
| 21:43.29 | karsten | CharminTheMoose: what Guerin said |
| 21:43.30 | CharminTheMoose | ? |
| 21:43.33 | Guerin | or glued together by perl |
| 21:43.38 | CharminTheMoose | oh right fair enough |
| 21:43.38 | cydork | buu: nope it doesn't :) |
| 21:43.43 | buu | Oh, well, that'll do it. |
| 21:43.52 | buu | What the heck is the name of the latest stable? |
| 21:43.58 | Guerin | buu: sarge |
| 21:44.03 | buu | So.. ok. |
| 21:44.32 | buu | Which suite should I use as an argument |
| 21:44.32 | buu | ? |
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| 21:44.41 | CharminTheMoose | sawfish gives me the error 'debian-menu:no such file or directory' why is this? my menu works fine in windowmaker |
| 21:44.51 | CharminTheMoose | without switching it to the new style of menu |
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| 21:46.11 | hydrox | Hello? |
| 21:46.24 | Guerin | hydrox: to whom are you talking? |
| 21:46.28 | buu | I try debootstrap sid, and it can't even download adduser |
| 21:46.34 | hydrox | Guerin, Anyone who's willing to listen :P |
| 21:46.50 | buu | Guerin: What arguments should I be feeding debootstrap? |
| 21:46.53 | brick | get us some cookies and we'll talk, hydrox |
| 21:47.07 | hydrox | psht.. |
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| 21:47.20 | blondie | MEW |
| 21:47.27 | cydork | hydrox: or beer |
| 21:47.28 | Guerin | buu: man debootstrap |
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| 21:47.45 | hydrox | I was wondering if anyone here happens to be any good at putting together metacity themes, with no hassle at all... |
| 21:47.56 | Guerin | hah |
| 21:48.09 | Guerin | you probably want somethignon irc.gnome.org |
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| 21:48.22 | hydrox | I just made the mistake of designing the theme, cutting it up into little Pngs.. then I actually looked at what metacity themes consisted of.. and it kind of bummed me down a little.. |
| 21:48.27 | hydrox | ah, cheers, Guerin |
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| 21:48.43 | CharminTheMoose | i can't seem to find debian-menu on my system,what's making my menus appear then? |
| 21:48.45 | Guerin | i made an openbox theme once called `null' |
| 21:49.04 | Guerin | it was all black, had no text and the buttons were 4x4 pixels |
| 21:49.04 | eldowon | I am running sarge, kernel 2.6.8-3-686. I have been using this machine as a gateway for my network for many months, and in the past 2 days, throughput has declined to about 30% of normal. At my workstation, a file downloads about 30kBi/s, logging into the firewall, the same file downloads at 150kBi/s. no configuration has changed on the firewall. I am not sure what is going on, and any help would be greatly appreciated. |
| 21:49.23 | Guerin | eldowon: read logs |
| 21:49.55 | chuckkh | me, I've discovered that my laptop's audio chipset is supported in the 2.6.18-3 kernel, but still don't get audible sound |
| 21:50.10 | chuckkh | in 64studio or Debian |
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| 21:50.58 | eldowon | Guerin: I've looked through /var/log/syslog and there is nothing odd there. I have rebooted, and even reverted back to my old iptables configuration, but nothing. I can transfer at full speed from the firewall to my workstation. |
| 21:51.05 | chuckkh | the linux audio mailing list hasn't been too helpful |
| 21:51.28 | chuckkh | I'll read anything, but I'm not sure where to look |
| 21:51.48 | Guerin | chuckkh: what soundcard? |
| 21:52.00 | chuckkh | SigmaTel 7634 chipset |
| 21:52.13 | Guerin | chuckkh: try alsaconfig |
| 21:52.21 | chuckkh | alsamixergui says the card is "HDA ATI SB" |
| 21:52.51 | CharminTheMoose | i can't seem to find debian-menu on my system,what's making my menus appear then? |
| 21:53.08 | Guerin | !htfswk CharminTheMoose |
| 21:53.08 | dpkg | CharminTheMoose: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 21:53.32 | CharminTheMoose | sorry.. |
| 21:53.32 | Guerin | chuckkh: if alsamixer runs then it's working. How are you testing the card? |
| 21:53.36 | chuckkh | Guerin: that is a command I should type? |
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| 21:53.56 | chuckkh | testing with rhythmbox, puredata, wav playback |
| 21:54.13 | Guerin | chuckkh: puredata? |
| 21:54.22 | Guerin | cat /file > /dev/dsp ? |
| 21:54.23 | rahul | CharminTheMoose: sawfish I think goes to the gnome menus by default |
| 21:54.28 | chuckkh | synthesis programming environment |
| 21:54.31 | rahul | CharminTheMoose: it parses them in its own way |
| 21:54.47 | Guerin | !soundcheck |
| 21:54.47 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp; if it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 21:54.53 | rahul | heh |
| 21:54.53 | Guerin | chuckkh: ↑ |
| 21:55.07 | rahul | turn the speakers down before doing that :) |
| 21:55.10 | Guerin | yeh |
| 21:55.40 | buu | Hrm. |
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| 21:55.54 | geo-rge | I'm 6trying to build daemontools in etch, and the linker is claiming it can't find errno... is that var deprecated? |
| 21:55.59 | chuckkh | Guerin: just sits, no sound or anything |
| 21:56.04 | geo-rge | or, what do I do |
| 21:56.09 | buu | Debootstrap mostly ran with woody, but it tried to run a chroot /mount dpkg... and failed because it couldn't find GLIBC2_3 or so. |
| 21:56.30 | rahul | geo-rge: it's not a var |
| 21:56.32 | chuckkh | pure data just happens to have a screen to test audio output |
| 21:56.42 | rahul | geo-rge: it's a macro ever since multithreading |
| 21:56.44 | matholio | I have a laptop with no optical, is there a way to install Debian ? it has usb and a nic. |
| 21:56.55 | eldowon | Guerin: I've looked through all the logs in /var/log, do you know of any other log locations to check? |
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| 21:57.19 | chuckkh | matholio: do you have access to Debian on another machine? |
| 21:57.22 | geo-rge | rahul: ok... so what, I'd get that by making sure to include errno.h? |
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| 21:57.31 | rahul | geo-rge: yeah |
| 21:57.35 | geo-rge | ok |
| 21:57.42 | murosai | how can i know what stuff are loaded in boot time at /etc/init.d/ and how can i edit and my own services? |
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| 21:58.13 | buu | Guerin: I've got a box here I'm trying to put debian on, but I don't have a debian cd or any similar boot media. |
| 21:58.20 | chuckkh | cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp is still running, doing nothing that I can discern |
| 21:58.35 | amphi | murosai: syminks in /etc/rc2.d - easiest way to make your own is to copy an existing one, and edit it to taste |
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| 21:59.53 | Guerin | eldowon: nope, all logs should be there. |
| 21:59.57 | matholio | is there a floppy boot for network install , for etch ? |
| 21:59.57 | doublehp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.13 | Guerin | chuckkh: your speakers are on, all of that? Volume is turned up? |
| 22:00.19 | geo-rge | rahul: found a common header file error.h in the daemontools source... put the include there... fixed :) |
| 22:00.26 | Guerin | speakers plugged into the right hole? |
| 22:00.43 | eldowon | Guerin: Then I'm out of ideas. Do you know of any reason that iptables would have started slowing the traffic? I have no traffic shaping running... |
| 22:00.47 | Guerin | chuckkh: if you don't get a failure message, the hardware is configured properly |
| 22:00.51 | abrotman | matholio: i haven't seen any yet |
| 22:00.54 | Guerin | eldowon: are you sure it's iptables? |
| 22:00.55 | chuckkh | Guerin: speakers build-in, volume up |
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| 22:01.17 | chuckkh | that's good to know guerin, I wasn't sure |
| 22:01.31 | Guerin | chuckkh: lsmod output on paster, svp |
| 22:01.52 | chuckkh | what should that command do? |
| 22:02.01 | chuckkh | I mean the cat command |
| 22:02.03 | eldowon | Guerin: What else could it be? the firewall can download at full speed from the internet, but no internal machines can. any workstation can transfer from/to the firewall at full speed. It is only forwarded packets that are being affected. |
| 22:02.17 | rahul | chuckkh: send noise to the speakers |
| 22:02.23 | Guerin | chuckkh: it sends some raw data to your audio device, which plays back soothing white noise for your earholes |
| 22:02.24 | chuckkh | thought so thx |
| 22:02.28 | chuckkh | nice |
| 22:02.41 | rahul | TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE |
| 22:02.45 | Guerin | eldowon: mm, yeh. Ask #iptables, maybe. |
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| 22:02.58 | eldowon | Guerin: Thanks. |
| 22:03.48 | geo-rge | rahul: looks like it's working now |
| 22:04.23 | rahul | cool |
| 22:04.24 | Guerin | fuck, I make good coffee |
| 22:04.27 | chuckkh | http://pastebin.ca/287929 |
| 22:04.29 | Guerin | if I do say so myself |
| 22:04.36 | geo-rge | you just did :) |
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| 22:05.24 | Guerin | i sure did |
| 22:05.54 | rahul | sure you did |
| 22:06.11 | chuckkh | re this debian system, I have asked and searched about this before with no luck, but during boot it gives a screen or two of messages stating something about "invalid dep_range_val 07:fff" |
| 22:06.28 | chuckkh | uh, I will find the boot log |
| 22:06.29 | Guerin | chuckkh: if you machine works, ignore it. |
| 22:06.33 | chuckkh | ok |
| 22:06.48 | chuckkh | that wouldn't interfere with audio? |
| 22:06.54 | Guerin | chuckkh: the lsmod looks ok, though. Do you have external speakers or headphones or something with which to est? |
| 22:07.05 | Guerin | impossible to tell, without context |
| 22:07.28 | chuckkh | Guerin: I can try that, sure |
| 22:07.42 | Guerin | chuckkh: i see no reason why you wouldn't get any sound |
| 22:07.44 | chuckkh | the error messages say something about hda_codec, that's why I wondered |
| 22:07.51 | Guerin | oho, ok |
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| 22:08.07 | Guerin | ok, well, hda_codec is your audio codec module |
| 22:08.22 | Guerin | so that may be relevant, but I have no idea how to fix it |
| 22:08.23 | chuckkh | at one point I tried to recompile a kernel to get rid of that error, never could |
| 22:08.27 | chuckkh | ok |
| 22:08.31 | chuckkh | thanks anyway |
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| 22:09.13 | chuckkh | yeah there's no /dev/dsp noise through headphones either |
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| 22:09.56 | Guerin | chuckkh: check dmesg |
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| 22:11.18 | chuckkh | hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7ffff |
| 22:11.20 | chuckkh | interesting |
| 22:11.30 | chuckkh | minus one f |
| 22:11.38 | chuckkh | and interesting in a bad way |
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| 22:12.09 | RogerBacon | debian rock |
| 22:12.12 | RogerBacon | its so stable |
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| 22:12.48 | Guerin | chuckkh: These messages are scary. It means that the communication between the |
| 22:12.48 | Guerin | controller chip and the codec chip doesn't work, usually incorrect IRQ |
| 22:12.48 | Guerin | handling, and often due to broken BIOS or ACPI support. Any change if |
| 22:12.49 | Guerin | you pass pci=noacpi or acpi=off boot option? |
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| 22:13.07 | Guerin | fuckity damn |
| 22:13.15 | rahul | <nelson>HA HA</nelson> |
| 22:13.17 | Guerin | stupid html with \n |
| 22:13.26 | matholio | I have a woody box which I need to upgrade the hdd, is there a ghost equivelent ? |
| 22:13.30 | Guerin | that was a paste from http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/19/96 |
| 22:13.55 | rahul | Guerin: then it wouldn't be html, it would be the email that had \n |
| 22:14.09 | chuckkh | Guerin: not sure what you're asking sry |
| 22:14.24 | Guerin | matholio: if you're changing the actual drive size or make,. you probably want to use rsync |
| 22:14.28 | Guerin | matholio: and/or tar |
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| 22:14.49 | Guerin | chuckkh: try booting with pci=noacpi or acpi=off |
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| 22:15.25 | matholio | Guerin, both size and make. do I install the new drive as a second drive and rsych, then swap ? |
| 22:15.30 | Guerin | chuckkh: An alternate solution to this is to load the snd-hda-intel module with the |
| 22:15.33 | Guerin | parameter "model=laptop" |
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| 22:16.07 | Guerin | matholio: I would do. rsync -a; exclude /proc /sys /tmp and so on |
| 22:16.21 | Guerin | matholio: -a preserves times and perms and such |
| 22:16.34 | cromo | is there any reason for which there is no vesamenu.c32 included in syslinux package in testing? It should be there, according to upstream release notes |
| 22:16.47 | Guerin | chuckkh: read the changelog |
| 22:16.49 | Guerin | bah |
| 22:16.54 | Guerin | cromo: read the changelog |
| 22:16.57 | cromo | I did |
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| 22:17.10 | chuckkh | Guerin: "modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptop" still has no soothing white noise |
| 22:17.11 | Guerin | matholio: man > google |
| 22:17.23 | cromo | Guerin: nothing mentioning vesamenu there |
| 22:17.23 | Guerin | chuckkh: did you remove it first? |
| 22:17.32 | chuckkh | ehhhh |
| 22:18.24 | Guerin | cromo: it will be in some changelog or other. Failing that, ask on debian-user or such |
| 22:18.24 | itchi | Guerin: Should it not >> :-p |
| 22:18.25 | Guerin | !confuse itchi |
| 22:18.25 | dpkg | No, those are your gouda yesterday, itchi? lederhosen of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra anchovies |
| 22:18.32 | itchi | Guerin: :-p |
| 22:18.32 | Guerin | lederhosen! |
| 22:18.34 | Xinux | hello, does anybody know if K3b supports DAA images? |
| 22:18.56 | Guerin | Xinux: the people in #kde might |
| 22:19.06 | Xinux | Guerin, okay, thanks |
| 22:19.22 | cromo | Guerin: it is mentioned in upstream changelog and according to it vesamenu.c32 should be there with 3.31 but is not |
| 22:19.38 | CrazednDazed | Okay. I installed ndiswraspper and the windows driver I want (lsbcmnds). ndiswrapper -l returns: lsbcmnds driver installed, hardware (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) when I do this: ndiswrapper -a 14E4:4320 lsbcmnds I get: couldn't create symlink for "14E4:4318.5.conf" installation may be incomplete and it's still trying to use the bcm43xx driver |
| 22:19.42 | Guerin | cromo: you have your answer, then. |
| 22:19.42 | cromo | I'll ask there anwyay, although for me it seems that it's a bug |
| 22:19.47 | linux2 | got a quick question |
| 22:19.50 | linux2 | i got a laptop here |
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| 22:20.00 | cromo | Guerin: what kind of answer? that the package is missing a file it should provide? |
| 22:20.00 | linux2 | but when i close the lid for some reason the sound stops playing |
| 22:20.05 | linux2 | like if im playing music or something |
| 22:20.12 | Guerin | cromo: no, that you should ask the mailing list ;) |
| 22:20.16 | cromo | see |
| 22:20.18 | cromo | ok |
| 22:20.19 | Guerin | linux2: no shit |
| 22:20.27 | linux2 | anyway i can stop that from happening, just as a not it didn't do it in windows so i would guess its not bios related |
| 22:20.37 | linux2 | Guerin: and it doesn't go into suspend |
| 22:20.52 | linux2 | the music basically mutes itself, cause it keeps playing |
| 22:21.06 | Guerin | linux2: oh, it doesn't suspend or sleep or anys such |
| 22:21.09 | Guerin | ? |
| 22:21.35 | linux2 | Guerin: nope, only got a terminal on it to begin with |
| 22:21.37 | linux2 | no GUI for me |
| 22:22.17 | Guerin | linux2: got powersaved or any such installed? |
| 22:22.20 | chuckkh | I thought it was "liederhosen" |
| 22:22.36 | Guerin | chuckkh: nope, that would be song-pants |
| 22:22.40 | Guerin | not leather pants |
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| 22:22.54 | creature | Hello. I do "apt-get install gtkpod" and apt-get says " gtkpod: Conflicts: libgpod0 (>= 0.4.0) but 0.4.0-0.3 is to be installed". How do I fix it? |
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| 22:22.55 | admin_ | !any ideas |
| 22:22.55 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of condoms, a little sauerkraut, and 5 or 6 three-legged dairy cows. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 22:23.16 | Guerin | creature: don't mix distributions |
| 22:23.16 | usr_rob | Guerin, lol! i had a good laugh here >> " fuck, I make good coffee" |
| 22:23.22 | rahul | reminds me of the condom game |
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| 22:23.37 | Guerin | usr_rob: well, I did make several hundred a day for a couple years after university |
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| 22:24.03 | creature | Guerin: I wasn't aware that I was. |
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| 22:24.20 | usr_rob | Guerin, quality coffee, hehe |
| 22:24.25 | itchi | usr_rob: There's an need to append the data :-) |
| 22:24.38 | Guerin | creature: that error occurs in two cases: 1. when you're mixing distros/branches; 2. when testing or sid gets out of sync |
| 22:24.52 | usr_rob | :) |
| 22:25.04 | Guerin | in case 1, you stop mixing, if you can. In case 2, there's not much you can dop, other than try to revet to old versions from sdn |
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| 22:25.22 | chuckkh | Guerin: "FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use" |
| 22:25.25 | Guerin | my coffee is not helping my typistry |
| 22:25.37 | Guerin | chuckkh: yeah, you need to kill any audio stuff which may have it |
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| 22:25.52 | Guerin | chuckkh: dropping to init 1 should do that |
| 22:25.53 | chuckkh | not seeing any |
| 22:26.14 | chuckkh | :'( |
| 22:26.21 | Guerin | chuckkh: you're not using esd or arts arer you? gnome or kde? |
| 22:26.28 | chuckkh | gnome |
| 22:26.31 | chuckkh | esd disabled |
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| 22:26.36 | callahad | Did an apt-get upgrade on sid break aptitude for anyone else? |
| 22:26.39 | Guerin | ok, good |
| 22:26.52 | Guerin | callahad: ask Mr BTS |
| 22:27.04 | Guerin | callahad: but if he offers you candy, don't take it |
| 22:27.34 | chuckkh | where do I find out about dropping to init 1 |
| 22:27.36 | callahad | Guerin: I'm poking at the BTS right now, figured I'd toss out the question while digging :) |
| 22:27.37 | itchi | haha |
| 22:27.46 | chuckkh | I know I seem helpless but this info really isn't to be found using Google |
| 22:27.46 | Guerin | chuckkh: telinit 1 |
| 22:28.03 | Guerin | chuckkh: then telinit 2 to get back to real mode |
| 22:28.17 | Guerin | oh dear |
| 22:28.25 | Guerin | i hope he figureds that bit out on his own |
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| 22:30.49 | mhammerton | hey |
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| 22:31.21 | mhammerton | i was wondering if can create a raid 5 across three drives and set the 4th up as a hot spare in etch |
| 22:31.37 | chuckkh | Guerin: alas, reloading the snd-hda-intel module gave the same string of errors as I get at boot |
| 22:31.47 | Guerin | chuckkh: with the laptop option? |
| 22:32.03 | chuckkh | well I typed "model=laptop" at the end if that's what yhou mean |
| 22:32.05 | chuckkh | yes |
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| 22:32.13 | Guerin | mm |
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| 22:32.19 | Guerin | http://www.burghardt.pl/wiki/articles/installing_and_using_debian_on_acer_aspire_5102wlmi#sound |
| 22:32.25 | dasunt | How do I avoid the 'unable to authenticate package' messages when upgrading to etch? |
| 22:32.26 | chuckkh | saw it |
| 22:32.26 | Guerin | is that your laptop? |
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| 22:32.27 | minerale | is there a http server that can run via inetd ? |
| 22:32.28 | chuckkh | no |
| 22:32.34 | Guerin | dasunt: topic |
| 22:32.42 | dasunt | Guerin: Oopsie, thanks. |
| 22:32.47 | Guerin | minerale: god, that's a bad idea. |
| 22:33.06 | rahul | Guerin: why? |
| 22:33.10 | Guerin | minerale: the overhead of starting a httpd on demand is *absurd* |
| 22:33.17 | Guerin | just start it once |
| 22:33.18 | rahul | Guerin: why? |
| 22:33.31 | minerale | guerin: dude, there's a use for everything, in my case I need to run a *minimal* http server via inetd |
| 22:33.31 | rahul | httpds don't have to have much startup overhead |
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| 22:33.40 | rahul | apache does, but that's apache's fault |
| 22:33.51 | Guerin | for being a real httpd |
| 22:34.06 | dasunt | minerale: Why not use thttpd or something without inetd? |
| 22:34.08 | minerale | guerin: I read somewhere how to make a make a makeshift webserver using only inetd.conf -- by adding a line such as: "www stream tcp wait nobody /bin/cat www /var/www/static.html" - except that I'm having odd trouble with it, it does not always work, just 20% of the reloads work -- thus I tried apache, nope, I tried thttpd, nope |
| 22:34.31 | Guerin | minerale: well, there are webservers written in sh and awk and such, if you really want to do stupid shit |
| 22:34.35 | Guerin | and perl |
| 22:34.39 | minerale | dasunt: well, it's a multi purpose box, I use it heavily and I have only 128 mb ram |
| 22:34.53 | CrazednDazed | What is the command to import the gpg key in debian? |
| 22:35.00 | dasunt | minerale: There are tiny webservers for embedded processors. |
| 22:35.03 | Guerin | CrazednDazed: topic |
| 22:35.03 | minerale | guerin: all I want is to send a 302 redirect, really |
| 22:35.11 | Guerin | mm, 302 |
| 22:35.20 | rahul | minerale: then you don't even need an httpd |
| 22:35.22 | CrazednDazed | oh yeh, sorry |
| 22:35.23 | cureless | minerale: http://www.lighttpd.net/ |
| 22:35.36 | rahul | just call cat redirect-response from inetd :) |
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| 22:35.47 | nevyn | sigh well that was a crap night.. |
| 22:35.48 | minerale | rahul: yeah, I tried something via inetd and cat but it seems to fail, see above for the inetd line |
| 22:36.00 | nevyn | 29 degrees C minimum 3hrs total sleep |
| 22:36.01 | dasunt | minerale: thttpd is probably small enough. |
| 22:36.07 | cureless | minerale: you need something more than cat |
| 22:36.40 | rahul | minerale: oh, you need to put crlf in the response |
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| 22:37.28 | cureless | minerale: write a c program that'll output what you want |
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| 22:38.01 | Guerin | CrazednDazed: why, when cat or echo will do it? |
| 22:38.17 | Guerin | bah |
| 22:38.18 | Guerin | cureless: |
| 22:38.22 | cureless | yes, got that |
| 22:38.30 | dasunt | minerale: Or just buy more ram, ram is often very cheap. |
| 22:39.26 | minerale | rahul: here's what I had being sent via cat; http://archlinuxfr.org/paste/360/ - I suspect it fails if the response is sent before the client is done sending the request |
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| 22:39.48 | minerale | dasunt: it's one of those virtual managed servers - xen kernel, $20/month |
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| 22:40.04 | rahul | minerale: hrm, maybe |
| 22:40.05 | dasunt | minerale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_web_servers |
| 22:41.04 | blackelf | I got the power \o/ |
| 22:41.35 | blackelf | *has |
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| 22:42.03 | Shadowcat | pfft |
| 22:42.08 | Guerin | blackelf: you can have all the ram in the world, but it don't matter if your brain only runs at 256hz |
| 22:42.09 | Shadowcat | you need to work on your comebacks |
| 22:42.23 | Shadowcat | Guerin: his brain only has 640k of onboard memory |
| 22:42.26 | Guerin | so, answer me this: |
| 22:42.36 | blackelf | Guerin: very good, but I was limited by compilation speeds up to day |
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| 22:42.37 | Muisje | Hey, i have webalizer installed but its only showing me statistics of april 2006 and i want to see them of now... anyone knows a fix of another utility that might work? |
| 22:42.37 | Guerin | why do people think dark stuff is cool? |
| 22:42.38 | dasunt | minerale: If that's too large, there's: http://www.acme.com/software/micro_httpd/ |
| 22:42.46 | Shadowcat | onboard/built in |
| 22:42.49 | itchi | Muisje: Hi, for information; there's an #debian-nl and some Dutch pages on the Debian's wiki |
| 22:42.50 | dasunt | minerale: And that runs from inetd! |
| 22:42.52 | blackelf | Guerin: same reason darth vader is |
| 22:42.56 | Guerin | why would you never see anyone called `SunCat' or `WhiteElf' |
| 22:42.57 | Guerin | ? |
| 22:43.03 | beardy | Guerin: Less vissible in night? |
| 22:43.10 | Guerin | is it because you're all too emo? |
| 22:43.11 | blackelf | shadows |
| 22:43.12 | streuner_ | some people are color-blind? ;-) |
| 22:43.29 | Muisje | Thanks itchi, but i don't mind english... i'd rather be helped in english then to be lowered to dutch :) |
| 22:43.32 | beardy | streuner_: White and black are often seen by most, though :) |
| 22:44.10 | blackelf | too bad debian64 failed to run at this box, well I suppose I'll try next year |
| 22:44.14 | Guerin | i reckon it's because people just like to pretend they're tough and tortured and evil |
| 22:44.29 | beardy | We want WhiteGuerin, we want WhiteGuerin! |
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| 22:44.35 | blackelf | white power! |
| 22:44.38 | Guerin | when in actual fact it's just because they can't be arsed opening the curtains and window to let the computer-room stink out |
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| 22:45.02 | blackelf | PinkGuerin: tee hee |
| 22:45.03 | beardy | Guerin: Are we feeling ungeeky today? |
| 22:45.32 | PinkGuerin | beardy: i never feel geeky |
| 22:45.44 | blackelf | stop or I will tell Stallman |
| 22:45.53 | Xinux | umm, so how can I get rid of unmet dependencies without installing them (they wont install). |
| 22:46.06 | PinkGuerin | Xinux: you can't. You need to make them install. |
| 22:46.06 | beardy | Xinux: Open your windows. |
| 22:46.18 | blackelf | Xinux: paint the town pink |
| 22:46.30 | Shadowcat | PinkGuerin: I can force you to use Vista |
| 22:46.32 | beardy | Xinux: Stop to care about that. Bring the fresh air in. |
| 22:46.33 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 22:46.44 | blackelf | donate to stallman |
| 22:46.46 | PinkGuerin | Shadowcat: I think people would pay to see you try. |
| 22:47.04 | beardy | PinkGuerin: Just pink? |
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| 22:47.29 | PinkGuerin | beardy: it was the nanciest colour I could think of. |
| 22:47.36 | Xinux | this is what I get... http://pastebin.com/842875 |
| 22:47.44 | Shadowcat | PinkGuerin: I can draft all of ##windows into an army for that cause |
| 22:47.45 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 22:47.49 | Shadowcat | you can't resist all 150 of us |
| 22:47.50 | beardy | Lets all /part and go out into the sunshine, powering off all our machines. |
| 22:47.59 | blackelf | lets! |
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| 22:48.12 | PinkGuerin | Shadowcat: pfft, bring on your flabby wintard minions. |
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| 22:48.21 | Muisje | Anyone know an alternative to webalizer? |
| 22:48.22 | blackelf | so, what did I missed |
| 22:48.31 | PinkGuerin | but damn it's windy out here |
| 22:48.36 | beardy | blackelf: Oh, it's you, why have you changed nick? |
| 22:48.41 | PinkGuerin | Muisje: awstats |
| 22:48.55 | Shadowcat | and... no one can hear you scream |
| 22:49.03 | Muisje | asin awfull stats @ PinkGuerin? |
| 22:49.05 | beardy | It's cold, moist and dark here, and 23.48, I'm not. |
| 22:49.05 | chuckkh | anyone tell me what to do about hda_codec: invalid dep_range_val 0:7fff? |
| 22:49.17 | itchi | Muisje: awstats, it give many more info |
| 22:49.31 | Shadowcat | PinkGuerin: there's no possible way you can open the box either |
| 22:49.35 | Shadowcat | it's soldered shut |
| 22:49.42 | PinkGuerin | HAH |
| 22:49.44 | chuckkh | because a solution doesn't seem to be documented |
| 22:49.45 | Muisje | ok great. |
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| 22:49.48 | PinkGuerin | your solder holds no fear for me! |
| 22:49.52 | Shadowcat | plus, you're sealed in 1m thick concrete and an additional 1m of lead on all sides |
| 22:50.02 | Shadowcat | and the room is on the bottom of the atlantic |
| 22:50.06 | Shadowcat | so you got nowhere to go >:) |
| 22:50.21 | PinkGuerin | chuckkh: i'm out of ideas. File a bug on the alsa packages, either in debian or upstream |
| 22:50.22 | gaypink_elf | number one, one to transport |
| 22:50.55 | chuckkh | thanks Guerin |
| 22:51.18 | PinkGuerin | Xinux: you're mixing distros or repos, this is very unwise. |
| 22:51.33 | x_link | Hi |
| 22:51.37 | x_link | I just have a question |
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| 22:51.44 | rahul | but I have a carefully tuned apt preferences file :) |
| 22:51.45 | PinkGuerin | Xinux: you need to pass --force-overwrite to dpkg; /msg dpkg confmiss and change the option |
| 22:51.46 | x_link | I'm writting something in KEdit. |
| 22:51.55 | PinkGuerin | Xinux: you have my condolences |
| 22:51.57 | PinkGuerin | bah |
| 22:52.06 | PinkGuerin | x_link: you have my condolences |
| 22:52.09 | x_link | And I want it to jump down a line when I finish the line |
| 22:52.37 | rahul | heh |
| 22:52.37 | rahul | jump? |
| 22:52.37 | gaypink_elf | x_link: uhm... press enter? |
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| 22:52.37 | Muisje | Can i force awstats to do an update right now? |
| 22:52.37 | x_link | For example, I just pasted a long url. |
| 22:52.42 | gaypink_elf | x_link: install a force feedback joystick under the chair? |
| 22:52.50 | x_link | ahhhh |
| 22:52.53 | x_link | Forget about it.... |
| 22:52.55 | al3xanr0 | what cmd line arguement will envoke/ display gnome-main-menu? |
| 22:53.11 | itchi | Muisje: His data, or the package? |
| 22:53.24 | PinkGuerin | Muisje: no idea. |
| 22:53.24 | gaypink_elf | x_link: just press the enter, duh |
| 22:53.45 | Muisje | its data |
| 22:53.50 | gaypink_elf | x_link: perhaps configure word wrap in addition |
| 22:53.52 | Muisje | i have the package installed |
| 22:54.10 | Muisje | I'm suprised it uses /var/lib/awstats as its output dir... |
| 22:54.15 | x_link | gaypink_elf: Where is that? |
| 22:54.23 | x_link | I really don't know much about this kind of stuff. |
| 22:54.26 | Muisje | but its totally empty so i have no idea if it works |
| 22:54.29 | itchi | Muisje: Yup, you should read the docs about it, the setup htlm file. Tryout dpkg -L awstats | less |
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| 22:54.53 | Muisje | yeah |
| 22:54.55 | Muisje | probably |
| 22:55.18 | Muisje | Oh my god... sourceforge gave the a notice that i should use firefox instead... F firefox |
| 22:55.25 | gaypink_elf | x_link: search in the configuration |
| 22:55.26 | itchi | Muisje: You need to setup it and there's an command you should execute too |
| 22:55.32 | PinkGuerin | Muisje: what are you using? |
| 22:55.39 | gaypink_elf | oh my god, I am a virgin |
| 22:55.43 | Muisje | There is no command atleast haven't found awstats to work :p |
| 22:55.44 | gaypink_elf | its first time I will use SMP |
| 22:56.06 | PinkGuerin | gaypink_elf: no surprise there |
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| 22:56.47 | davi | How to submit a news to Debian planet? |
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| 22:57.09 | itchi | Muisje: You need to read /usr/share/doc/awstats/html/awstats_setup.html |
| 22:57.20 | gaypink_elf | PinkGuerin: no surprise? |
| 22:57.21 | itchi | Muisje: I guess your on step 2 now |
| 22:57.45 | Muisje | i'll do that in 30 mins |
| 22:57.49 | Muisje | currently watching some tv :p |
| 22:58.02 | itchi | Muisje: Ow sorry, according to the html doc, your on step 1 (counting from 0 :-)) |
| 22:58.07 | eduhat | hey guys. can someone here please help me get my wireless card that has prism2.5 chipset on it working with debian 3.1 sarge. right now (im guessing) that it is using the orinoco drivers, i guessed this because the interface is eth1. what i need to do is use the hostap drivers for my card |
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| 22:58.50 | PinkGuerin | gaypink_elf: that you're a virgin. |
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| 22:59.26 | PinkGuerin | davi: you don't, it's dont by rss feed from developers' blogs |
| 22:59.29 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 22:59.29 | dpkg | < tim> fuck!! - I have just sourced ~.bash_history instead .bashrc |
| 22:59.39 | davi | thanks PinkGuerin |
| 22:59.46 | PinkGuerin | davi: you can tell a developer, though, and they might post it |
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| 23:00.11 | Guy-Loup | zone-h defaced |
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| 23:03.20 | usr_rob | pam_keyring rules, nice to have the nm-applet stop asking for keyring passwd to unlock the keyring. |
| 23:04.41 | gaypink_elf | !qotd |
| 23:04.42 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
| 23:04.54 | gaypink_elf | !qotd0 |
| 23:04.54 | dpkg | <Mandork_> how does pron work anyways ? |
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| 23:05.42 | wireddd | !qotd0 |
| 23:05.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd153 is <asg> abrotman: yes, I'm waiting for the german scat collection myself |
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| 23:06.01 | usr_rob | haha! |
| 23:06.11 | joeamined | hi people |
| 23:06.26 | gaypink_elf | joeamined: hi androids |
| 23:07.21 | joeamined | i auto mounted a fat32 drive (added it in /etc/fstab) |
| 23:07.35 | joeamined | and i would like to have it in my shown drivers |
| 23:07.57 | joeamined | in the shortcut in nautilus |
| 23:07.57 | joeamined | :///computer shortcut |
| 23:08.04 | joeamined | how can i do it ? |
| 23:08.43 | PinkGuerin | joeamined: ask #gnome irc.gnome.org |
| 23:08.55 | joeamined | ok thank you |
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| 23:12.28 | eduhat | hey guys. can someone here please help me get my wireless card that has prism2.5 chipset on it working with debian 3.1 sarge. right now (im guessing) that it is using the orinoco drivers, i guessed this because the interface is eth1. what i need to do is use the hostap drivers for my card. can someone please help me? |
| 23:13.24 | Mark_Iron | hi eduhat :) ... I am very sorry NOT to be able to help you in this matter |
| 23:13.39 | enveezee | I'm very sorry to hear him repeat it |
| 23:13.53 | brick | eduhat, i can't help you with the drivers but i can say that there is no correlation between the device name eth1 and which driver you use. |
| 23:14.00 | enveezee | PinkGuerin: you and me both. |
| 23:14.12 | eduhat | brick: allright |
| 23:14.19 | PinkGuerin | if I used wireless, what would my kittens have to chew? |
| 23:14.36 | PinkGuerin | it wouldn't be fair. Think of the kittens! |
| 23:14.47 | enveezee | heh |
| 23:14.52 | helo | only power cables |
| 23:14.58 | brick | eduhat, you can potentially see which drivers you are using with lsmod... |
| 23:15.10 | helo | do the world a favor, make your kittens chew power cables! |
| 23:15.34 | enveezee | helo: evil kitty hater! |
| 23:15.42 | helo | who doesn't hate evil kitties? |
| 23:15.46 | PinkGuerin | my rabbit used to chew pwer cables |
| 23:15.53 | helo | if you didn't hate the evil ones, wouldn't you be evil too? |
| 23:16.09 | PinkGuerin | he hit bare 240v live-wire several times, never even noticed |
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| 23:16.35 | helo | "never even noticed he was dead" |
| 23:16.39 | enveezee | heh |
| 23:16.50 | anapivirtua | Nighty all. |
| 23:17.01 | eduhat | brick: okay. ill try lsmod and check it out |
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| 23:18.41 | eduhat | brick: it says im using orinoco_cs |
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| 23:20.05 | davFr | hi! wanted to relabel a partition with "mkfs.ext3 -L "" /dev/sdb5", but it erased the file structure. Is there a way to recover the partition, please? |
| 23:20.20 | enveezee | davFr: gpart |
| 23:20.23 | enveezee | !info gpart |
| 23:20.28 | dpkg | gpart: (Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1h-4.1 (sid), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 23:20.58 | davFr | enveezee : will gpart recreate the file structure too? |
| 23:21.19 | enveezee | I have no idea wtf a file structure is |
| 23:21.36 | minerale | so after running some -load testing- I'm now left with about 1000 sockets, all seem to be time-wait, how can I lower the time they stay open ? |
| 23:21.39 | davFr | enveezee : inode data |
| 23:21.43 | enveezee | unless its something you build on your desk when you get bored at work |
| 23:22.03 | enveezee | fsck is for repairing filesystems |
| 23:22.32 | karsten | minerale: standard TCP timeout. I think it's 5-10 minutes. |
| 23:23.14 | PinkGuerin | davFr: you can also look at using testdisk |
| 23:24.44 | minerale | karsten: well, how does one lower the timeout? can I simply cat 10 > /proc/some/tcptimeoutconfig ? |
| 23:24.56 | karsten | minerale: Good question. |
| 23:25.11 | karsten | minerale: I think you may be able to kill the listening process / sending process as well. |
| 23:25.16 | karsten | minerale: IIRC it's a listen-timeout, no? |
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| 23:28.13 | toad_ | best way to get eclipse? from unstable? |
| 23:28.24 | rahul | ? |
| 23:28.28 | streuner_ | toad_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 23:28.32 | toad_ | is there any more stable way to get it? |
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| 23:28.37 | PinkGuerin | toad_: not at all would be best |
| 23:28.41 | rahul | eclipse? stable? |
| 23:28.43 | toad_ | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 23:29.07 | toad_ | eclipse isn't in etch any more, so is the best way to get it from sid, or to download it manually? |
| 23:29.10 | PinkGuerin | eclipse: what happens to your ram when you run sun java apps |
| 23:29.24 | rahul | it goes poof |
| 23:29.38 | minerale | pinkguerin: you would be perfect for slashdot :-S |
| 23:29.43 | toad_ | :) |
| 23:29.51 | PinkGuerin | minerale: why? |
| 23:29.55 | minerale | pinkguerin: now bash microsoft |
| 23:29.56 | rahul | slashdot? |
| 23:29.58 | rahul | eh? |
| 23:30.02 | toad_ | eclipse-platform: Depends: libjsch-java (>= 0.1.28) but 0.1.19-3 is to be installed |
| 23:30.07 | PinkGuerin | minerale: wtf? |
| 23:30.11 | streuner_ | !blairsmite rahul |
| 23:30.17 | rahul | heh |
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| 23:30.33 | rahul | the welshmen are coming, the welshmen are coming! |
| 23:30.33 | PinkGuerin | toad_: man apt_preferences, learn about pinning |
| 23:30.34 | toad_ | apt-get install -t sid libjsch-java doesn't do anything useful either |
| 23:30.36 | toad_ | any ideas? |
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| 23:30.59 | toad_ | i have preferences set up for testing 900 unstable 800 stable 700 |
| 23:31.02 | streuner_ | !simple sid backports |
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| 23:31.25 | streuner_ | !simple sid backport |
| 23:31.25 | dpkg | simple sid backport is probably 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 23:31.27 | PinkGuerin | toad_: try libfoo=version |
| 23:31.52 | minerale | karsten: it's not looking good; % netstat -n | wc -l -> 5319 |
| 23:32.30 | karsten | minerale: netstat -nplv |
| 23:32.50 | karsten | minerale: Should give you process name and PID. Pipe to sed and/or awk, kill. |
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| 23:33.08 | toad_ | PinkGuerin: that worked, thanks |
| 23:33.17 | PinkGuerin | toad_: winn0r! |
| 23:33.18 | karsten | minerale: What sort of processes are these? What port(s)? |
| 23:34.06 | minerale | karsten: no, it's all connected to one process, thttpd - I'm just wondering why the connections keep staying open even after it's closed |
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| 23:34.30 | karsten | minerale: Is that the kernel-mode httpd? Just kill/restart it. |
| 23:34.39 | karsten | minerale: I'd think you can configure its open connections, no? |
| 23:34.58 | streuner_ | !win PinkGuerin |
| 23:34.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, PinkGuerin! You have won the US presidency! |
| 23:35.03 | streuner_ | oh no |
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| 23:35.15 | karsten | Great. |
| 23:35.33 | streuner_ | free beer for everyone? ;-) |
| 23:35.38 | karsten | "President PinkGuerin calls for war on Australia" |
| 23:35.52 | PinkGuerin | To the trenches! |
| 23:36.06 | PinkGuerin | here's your ration of beer and sausages, now go! |
| 23:36.13 | DerJamster | w00! |
| 23:36.18 | karsten | "We have incontrovertiable evidence that Australia is bent on aquiring Beer of Mass Destruction" |
| 23:36.35 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 23:36.47 | RvGaTe | I want to test if i can send files over Xchat, anyone willing to help me out? (its a .pdf) |
| 23:37.08 | rahul | what bush meant was inconvertible evidence |
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| 23:37.29 | rahul | in that it couldn't be converted from hearsay to hard evidence |
| 23:37.31 | pstickne | or "evidence we made up" |
| 23:37.33 | minerale | karsten: i'm pretty sure it's a kernel setting for the tcp timeout |
| 23:37.34 | eduhat | is there a way that i could get the source for my kernel (2.6.8-3) using apt-get? |
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| 23:37.54 | karsten | eduhat: man apt-get sources.list |
| 23:38.17 | rahul | pstickne: that's the lay term for hearsay, yes :) |
| 23:38.22 | pstickne | rahul, ;) |
| 23:38.24 | karsten | eduhat: And you don't need the latter for kernel sources. |
| 23:38.25 | eduhat | karsten: i know what that does. but do i need to add anything to it? |
| 23:38.32 | rahul | !I heard |
| 23:38.40 | rahul | !someone said |
| 23:38.43 | rahul | bah |
| 23:38.44 | eduhat | karsten: what do you mean the latter? |
| 23:38.51 | karsten | eduhat: Not above and beyond a standard working sources list. |
| 23:38.55 | rahul | !someone said is <literal>Someone said my ass is hot. |
| 23:38.55 | dpkg | okay, rahul |
| 23:39.45 | eduhat | karsten: okay. what do i need to add to the sources? |
| 23:39.49 | usr_rob | how many in here use firefox 2.0? just curious. |
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| 23:40.03 | streuner_ | !popcon |
| 23:40.07 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 23:40.29 | karsten | eduhat: Nothing. |
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| 23:40.37 | usr_rob | nice |
| 23:40.38 | rahul | usr_rob: this is #debian. we don't have firefox |
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| 23:40.42 | eduhat | karsten: so how can i get the sources? |
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| 23:40.55 | karsten | !tell eduhat about search |
| 23:41.02 | Bagoor | how can I run an application with -19 priority ? (is it possible with nice ?) |
| 23:41.03 | karsten | eduhat: Search for the package. Install it. |
| 23:41.03 | usr_rob | rahul, yeah, yeah. sorry .. |
| 23:41.14 | karsten | Bagoor: Yes. RTFM nice. |
| 23:41.36 | karsten | Bagoor: ... um. But only as root. |
| 23:41.41 | bobbyz | Bagoor: you need root privs as well |
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| 23:42.02 | amphi | Bagoor: only root can make processes more nasty |
| 23:42.49 | bobbyz | Bagoor: and be careful with a -19 prio |
| 23:42.56 | PinkGuerin | fuckin stupid firefox 2, with its x-on-every-tab bullshit |
| 23:43.08 | Bagoor | I run bash with this : "nice -19 bash" but when I run nice again in new bash, it will show 19 instead of -19 ! |
| 23:43.14 | karsten | PinkGuerin: You can nuke that. |
| 23:43.20 | PinkGuerin | karsten: oh, i can? |
| 23:43.30 | karsten | PinkGuerin: Yeah, but I'm going to be nice to you ... |
| 23:43.34 | karsten | PinkGuerin: ... and not tell you how ;-) |
| 23:43.41 | PinkGuerin | karsten: love you long time |
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| 23:44.13 | Bagoor | PinkGuerin: write about:config in your firefox addressbar, and change it :P |
| 23:44.14 | karsten | PinkGuerin: Love me harder and longer. |
| 23:44.34 | karsten | PinkGuerin: Tab Mix Plus > Options > Display > Tab > Close tab button (deselect) |
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| 23:45.00 | Alakazamz0r | I love l00n1x |
| 23:45.10 | Alakazamz0r | apollon: error while loading shared libraries: libapollon.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:45.11 | Alakazamz0r | ? |
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| 23:45.35 | karsten | Alakazamz0r: Life?] |
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| 23:45.48 | Alakazamz0r | karsten, life what. |
| 23:45.51 | Alakazamz0r | liblife? |
| 23:46.11 | Alakazamz0r | ln -s /karsten/foot /karsten/mouth ? |
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| 23:46.33 | karsten | Alakazamz0r: EIther you've blown away the library in question, you've noked the symlink, the link is dangling, you have disk corruption, you've been hacked, or you're Life who was here two days ago with a similar question. |
| 23:46.46 | karsten | Alakazamz0r: Don't taunt the regulars, particularly if they're assisting you. |
| 23:47.35 | Ankman | oO |
| 23:47.57 | karsten | s/noked/nuked/ |
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| 23:49.34 | Ankman | karsten: you just nuked abchirk |
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| 23:49.56 | PinkGuerin | mm, breaky break internet |
| 23:50.07 | karsten | Ankman: ?? |
| 23:50.23 | bobbyz | Alakazamz0r: or libapollon.so.0 is not in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 23:54.20 | eduhat | when i run patch -pl --dry-run < /home/eduhat/orinoco-0.13e-rfom-dragorn3.diff it says this patch: **** strip count 1 is not a number |
| 23:54.24 | eduhat | what does that mean? |
| 23:54.59 | Alakazamz0r | karsten, im not taunting the regulars. |
| 23:54.59 | freeone3000 | It means 'l' is not a number. |
| 23:55.06 | Alakazamz0r | im just trying to get past your l33tn355 |
| 23:55.28 | Alakazamz0r | bobbyz, checking. |
| 23:55.40 | karsten | Alakazamz0r: I was asking if you were the guy using 'Life' as a nick. Either you're not or you're covering up for it (I tend to believe the former). |
| 23:55.45 | karsten | Alakazamz0r: Move on. |
| 23:55.52 | Alakazamz0r | bye gimp |
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| 23:56.08 | Alakazamz0r | you should. |
| 23:56.09 | Alakazamz0r | :) |
| 23:56.16 | amphi | !comfort karsten |
| 23:56.16 | dpkg | There, there, karsten. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:56.18 | Alakazamz0r | what are you talking about karsten |
| 23:56.33 | Alakazamz0r | im just trying to get a library problem resolved. |
| 23:56.36 | amphi | a tragic loss... |
| 23:56.37 | Alakazamz0r | you're gettin all pissy |
| 23:56.47 | Alakazamz0r | malakai:~# find / -name libapollon.so -print |
| 23:56.47 | Alakazamz0r | malakai:~# |
| 23:56.53 | Alakazamz0r | returns nothing |
| 23:56.57 | geo-rge | !ops Alakazamz0r troll, offtopic, hostile |
| 23:56.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: geo-rge complains about: Alakazamz0r troll, offtopic, hostile |
| 23:57.18 | Alakazamz0r | wtf |
| 23:57.28 | Alakazamz0r | im not a troll, or offtopic or hostile |
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| 23:57.41 | SerajewelKS | Alakazamz0r: is the library provided by a debian package? |
| 23:57.51 | Alakazamz0r | SerajewelKS, not sure... i thought it would be. |
| 23:58.04 | Alakazamz0r | it thought it'd be part of the apollon group |
| 23:58.08 | SerajewelKS | !find /libapollon.so |
| 23:58.13 | freeone3000 | How well would debian respond to a self-installed beryl? |
| 23:58.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/libapollon.so' (1): (/usr/lib/{libapollon.so|libapollon.so.0|libapollon.so.0.0.1}) in net/apollon. |
| 23:58.27 | Alakazamz0r | woah |
| 23:58.33 | moshii | freeone3000: do it in */local I suppose |
| 23:58.41 | Alakazamz0r | maybe its not in testing repositories SerajewelKS ? |
| 23:58.41 | SerajewelKS | Alakazamz0r: apt-get install apollon |
| 23:58.52 | Alakazamz0r | apollon is already the newest version. |
| 23:58.59 | Alakazamz0r | replies my machine. |
| 23:59.06 | SerajewelKS | Alakazamz0r: it is |
| 23:59.12 | freeone3000 | moshii: That's a given.. |
| 23:59.12 | *** join/#debian kuzmich (n=kuzmich@r2d2.satgate.net) |
| 23:59.24 | kuzmich | але бля |
| 23:59.25 | SerajewelKS | Alakazamz0r: ls -l /usr/lib/libapollon.so* |
| 23:59.38 | kuzmich | где я |
| 23:59.46 | Mark_Iron | just for people who want to create own debian packages: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html |
| 23:59.48 | Eulex | !ru |
| 23:59.48 | dpkg | i guess ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 23:59.57 | kuzmich | тфу бля не туда попал |
| 23:59.57 | moshii | freeone3000: I'm using some debs for beryl though.. can't remember were they came from |