| 00:00.05 | dan2 | dpkg: everybody knows that russian guns are superior to german guns |
| 00:00.05 | streuner_ | so what does BTS say about? |
| 00:00.06 | dpkg | dan2: what are you talking about? |
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| 00:00.13 | Krux0 | Bushmills & th3sp4wn, thanks |
| 00:02.09 | Caelum | streuner_: apt-listbugs list runit shows nothing, oh well it's probably not a big deal |
| 00:02.26 | luis[27] | so.. ? |
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| 00:09.37 | magyar | i need to restart a service when a pppoe connection restarts |
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| 00:12.17 | evilbulgarian | hi, what can i do to improve the verbosity of debian's init process it just dumps info everywhere in a very unorganized manner can i suppress or enable a flag somewhere to alieviate that? |
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| 00:18.17 | FuzzyBubblewrap | what's the name of the tool that you can use to build fake packages? Someone told me earlier but i'm dammed if can find it now |
| 00:18.55 | odla | fakeroot? |
| 00:19.00 | odla | no that's wrong |
| 00:19.07 | dondelelcaro | FuzzyBubblewrap: equivs |
| 00:19.17 | FuzzyBubblewrap | thanks |
| 00:19.18 | dondelelcaro | but don't use it unless you know exactly why you're using it. |
| 00:19.29 | FuzzyBubblewrap | i do |
| 00:19.34 | FuzzyBubblewrap | it worked earlier |
| 00:19.37 | FuzzyBubblewrap | i just reformatted |
| 00:19.41 | FuzzyBubblewrap | and forgot the name of it |
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| 00:24.45 | sipher | Where does apt keep the list of packages / dependencies ... |
| 00:24.50 | sipher | apt-get update |
| 00:25.04 | sipher | it seems to be holding stale entries.. |
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| 00:27.15 | Stevie | I had an apt process that terminated uncleanly. |
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| 00:27.26 | Stevie | Now it complains that it can't lock the database |
| 00:27.34 | Stevie | what's the proper way to rectify this? |
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| 00:28.32 | [Cadet] | Stevie: Lots of times dpkg --configure -a |
| 00:29.40 | h3sp4wn | Stevie: fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; dpkg --configure -a |
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| 00:34.01 | robin_z | so ... Sarge on a dell laptop, as I plug in my Buffalo ro Lucent WiFi cards, I get lets of stuff in dmesg about "failed to set rate" and "failed to set something else" ... lots of it .. lokks very broken and fails to connect :( |
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| 00:34.45 | evertcollab | I have an issue =) |
| 00:34.47 | evertcollab | ehm |
| 00:35.57 | dan2 | asg: aye |
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| 00:36.37 | streuner_ | dan2: /whois asg |
| 00:36.48 | dan2 | heh |
| 00:37.29 | streuner_ | dan2: did you ever see 'Barbarella'? |
| 00:37.32 | dan2 | is it natural to enjoy working? |
| 00:37.34 | dan2 | streuner: no |
| 00:38.15 | evertcollab | I had a problem with an intel sata driver, so I needed a new 2.6 kernel.. I did all this on a seperate box and then took out the HD and put it in an IDE slot on the new box.. This all went fine and it loaded the new kernel and even gave me /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.. So i copied the contents of /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda1 using cp -ax.. also fixed grub and rebooted.. but didnt work.. also removed initrd from grub to test.. but it gives me errors li |
| 00:38.22 | evertcollab | unknown filesystem type devfs |
| 00:38.31 | evertcollab | and it complains about /dev/sda not being found |
| 00:38.45 | evertcollab | so it looks like /dev/sda is not found at that stage.. but idk |
| 00:39.00 | evertcollab | any pointers? |
| 00:39.10 | streuner_ | dan2: well, you never see the guy who asked 'Barbarella' (nice woman), "Can you do me a favorite? and she answered, Yes, we make love with pills..." and the guy just said "heh" ? ;-) |
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| 00:40.13 | dan2 | heh |
| 00:40.20 | streuner_ | haha |
| 00:40.53 | robin_z | sigh. poxy wireless crap |
| 00:41.19 | streuner_ | dan2: if you ever see that video (Jane Fonda), you'll never forget the term 'heh' then ;-) |
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| 00:44.44 | Dark_L0rd | hello guys |
| 00:44.46 | Dark_L0rd | i need some rule that will allow me to make my box, using iptables rules, to force target where it lands when asks for a specific domain |
| 00:44.49 | Dark_L0rd | to be more specific, i want when my box does ask for data from for example: IP1:80 to be redirected automatically and by local rules, to connect to IP2:8080 for example |
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| 00:46.09 | main2 | what package contains make-kpkg ? |
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| 00:47.05 | Seb | dpkg, find make-kpkp |
| 00:47.10 | Seb | dpkg, find make-kpkg |
| 00:47.11 | Seb | even |
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| 00:48.07 | main2 | i got dpkg installed, but i cant use make-kpkg :/ |
| 00:48.24 | h3sp4wn | main2: kernel-package (that is provided by) |
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| 00:49.45 | main2 | im trying to compile the lirc kernel modules |
| 00:50.52 | robin_z | Dark_L0rd, is IP2 on a different box? |
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| 00:52.28 | mhall | What can I do if I want to make a big garbage dumping ground Samba share that's world writable and does not check the user IDs who are connecting? I need it for a test lab that's not connected to any real networks. |
| 00:53.11 | main2 | lolol |
| 00:53.33 | mhall | umm... ok... whatever man |
| 00:53.37 | mhall | you need to get out more |
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| 00:53.59 | eldowan | mhall: try man smb.conf |
| 00:54.01 | mhall | and this is coming from somebody who works 55 hours per week |
| 00:54.14 | mhall | eldowan: yeah i'm reading the SWAT manuals and this crap's real confusing |
| 00:54.22 | mhall | eldowan: i'll try the good old tried and true manpage |
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| 00:54.39 | Dark_L0rd | robin_z: mybox has nothing to do with IP1 or IP2 |
| 00:54.42 | eldowan | I'm not too sure, I haven't needed samba more than once or twice. |
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| 00:55.34 | mhall | eldowan: yeah all the times i needed it before i had control on the usernames |
| 00:55.39 | robin_z | Dark_L0rd, ahh, then your problems are solved. since your box has nothing to do with IP1, it will never receieve the intitial requeston port 80, so you can ignore it. |
| 00:55.56 | mhall | eldowan: but this time that got delegated to somebody else and the windows users are using some chars i think unix does not really support |
| 00:55.57 | Caelum | gnome looks much nicer at 120dpi with the SphereCrystal theme... |
| 00:56.01 | mhall | eldowan: like ' ' and '&' |
| 00:56.15 | Dark_L0rd | robin_z but how i do it ? |
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| 00:57.41 | eldowan | mhall: try searching for samba anonymous share. It is turning up a few interesting hits. |
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| 00:58.28 | robin_z | Dark_L0rd, if your box has nothing to do with either IP1 or IP2 you cant do it, its got nothing to do with you |
| 00:59.16 | robin_z | Dark_L0rd, if your box had IP1 and was NAT'ing a network conttaing IP2, well that would be a different thing |
| 00:59.40 | robin_z | if your box was a ARP-transparetn bridge .. it swould be doable too |
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| 01:00.49 | lancel00t | hi i am using module-assistant to try to build rt2500 and it keeps telling me i have unconfigured source in the kernel source directory and i have configured it. i have no idea what to do |
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| 01:03.38 | Dark_L0rd | robin_z it is MY box that is requesting IP1 or IP2 |
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| 01:04.06 | Dark_L0rd | so i want to "fake" it and force my box with iptables rules, to connect to IP2 even if it asks for IP1 |
| 01:04.12 | Dark_L0rd | understand what i try to say ? |
| 01:05.10 | Stevie | h3sp4wn: thank you. that fixed it |
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| 01:05.37 | mhall | eldowan: well i got it to mount |
| 01:05.46 | mhall | eldowan: now, gotta find secret of write access ;-) |
| 01:05.48 | stoned | hi |
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| 01:06.27 | stoned | etch won't be out this year man, I don't see it happening. Still over 250 RC bugs |
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| 01:06.39 | stoned | well, at least the last time I checked |
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| 01:06.43 | stoned | again... |
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| 01:07.36 | stoned | why'd that make everyone quiet? |
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| 01:08.17 | h3sp4wn | what is the /msg dpkg thing to see the status of etch |
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| 01:08.42 | thingfish | stoned: it's just been kind of slow tonight I think. |
| 01:08.47 | stoned | hey! |
| 01:08.49 | stoned | thing! |
| 01:08.53 | thingfish | :) |
| 01:08.56 | stoned | what up brother |
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| 01:09.07 | thingfish | stoned: I'm good. How's things going with you? |
| 01:09.12 | stoned | worked 11.5 hours today non stop |
| 01:09.29 | thingfish | yikes I'll be doing that soon too. |
| 01:09.30 | stoned | just got home, gonna toke a bowl, update my sid system, recompile some software, make some packages |
| 01:09.46 | stoned | I still gotta try and find time for the localization |
| 01:10.12 | stoned | my language wont' be available in debian until the next one after etch, at the rate its going now |
| 01:10.30 | thingfish | stoned: which language is that? |
| 01:10.33 | stoned | Urdu |
| 01:10.34 | stoned | !ur |
| 01:10.35 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 01:10.36 | nvz | thingfish: stoned |
| 01:10.42 | thingfish | stoned: sweet |
| 01:10.45 | stoned | hey nvz |
| 01:10.49 | thingfish | nvz: hehe |
| 01:11.01 | nvz | hey what |
| 01:11.06 | stoned | hey! |
| 01:11.08 | thingfish | oh hey I'm good at the stoned language myself hehe |
| 01:11.11 | nvz | ugh I'm fucking beat |
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| 01:11.30 | nvz | yeah being stoned is part of my job |
| 01:11.38 | nvz | well getting high I should say |
| 01:11.40 | thingfish | I'm not beat, I only worked 3.5 hours today. |
| 01:11.47 | stoned | lucky bastard |
| 01:11.48 | nvz | I worked 11 |
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| 01:12.06 | stoned | I am an honest man bro |
| 01:12.06 | thingfish | yeah yuck, I mean 8 hours is fine, but more than that... |
| 01:12.15 | stoned | I just want an honest weeks pay, for an honest day's work |
| 01:12.19 | stoned | is that so much to ask? |
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| 01:12.20 | nvz | I got up at 6am, went over to my bosses house and found him in bed at 7am |
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| 01:12.47 | Mutiny_ | hi there! Where can I obtain the kernel source .config file for the kernel that's installed by default with debian etch? |
| 01:12.57 | nvz | tried to tell me he wasnt sleeping when he's laying in bed with his eyes shut |
| 01:12.58 | thingfish | nice boss - too bad you didn't know that in advance, so you could've slept in. |
| 01:13.21 | thingfish | Mutiny_: look in the /boot dir. |
| 01:13.21 | stoned | thingfish, sleeping is good, but if you don't work, you don't eat |
| 01:13.30 | thingfish | stoned: tell me about it. |
| 01:13.36 | nvz | wake up mofo get me stoned so I can understand what you are talking about |
| 01:13.44 | shogunx | Mutiny_ /boot/config-$kernelversion |
| 01:14.00 | Mutiny_ | ah thanks! |
| 01:14.05 | shogunx | stoned... well, there are the freegans. |
| 01:14.17 | shogunx | you can scavenge, but its not so savory at times. |
| 01:14.41 | xittum | defragmentation in qemu zzzz.. makeing dual boot howto |
| 01:15.17 | stoned | im gonna go hang with the roomie for a bit before I pass out |
| 01:15.26 | stoned | nice seeing ya'll again *away* |
| 01:15.31 | thingfish | stoned: now come on. |
| 01:15.44 | stoned | ok, fine, I'll get him to come to my room |
| 01:15.45 | thingfish | stoned: if you work long hours, then that means you must play extra hard. |
| 01:15.46 | stoned | lol |
| 01:16.02 | thingfish | stoned: I suggest you go get a fifth of vodka straightaway. |
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| 01:16.12 | shogunx | thingfish, coversely, if you play hard enough, you can avaid work alltogether. |
| 01:16.25 | thingfish | shogunx: now I like your attitude, man. |
| 01:16.35 | shogunx | :) |
| 01:17.22 | shogunx | i used to feed myslef playing pool in college... the saying was "i play for bread and meat. if i dont win, i dont eat." |
| 01:17.28 | Mutiny_ | REBOOTING........... |
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| 01:18.33 | sander | Hi. I got some problems when removing the libapache2-mod-php5 and installing it again.. I dont get php to work properly again. |
| 01:18.37 | thingfish | shogunx: cool. That would be a very nice way to earn one's meals. Plus not to mention there are often many beers involved, in playing pool. |
| 01:18.53 | sander | seems like apt-get disabled all modules |
| 01:19.15 | sander | and they dont get enabled again.. when I install php5 |
| 01:19.24 | sander | libapache2-mod-php5* |
| 01:21.25 | shogunx | thingfish, oh yes... but your chances of winning go down significantly after more than 1 or 2. |
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| 01:23.51 | Mutiny_ | hmmm |
| 01:23.52 | Mutiny_ | odd. |
| 01:24.41 | Mutiny_ | I'm using the config from the kernel that works fine, but with my recompiled kernel i get a kernel panic when i reboot. VFS unable to load root from unknown-block |
| 01:24.47 | Mutiny_ | paraphrasing the exact message |
| 01:25.15 | shogunx | Mutiny... initrd? |
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| 01:26.34 | Mutiny_ | not sure. its trying to load root from /dev/sda1 which is a SATA disk. |
| 01:26.37 | shogunx | looks like a module for your fs is not getting loaded. |
| 01:26.41 | Mutiny_ | or that's how it's booing when it works fine. |
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| 01:26.56 | shogunx | or a module for your controller. |
| 01:27.12 | shogunx | try adding those statically until you get it to boot. |
| 01:27.13 | Mutiny_ | shogunx yeah i'm not wondering why it boots fine from this kernel, but when i use the SAME config on a kernel i'm compiling, it nuts out. |
| 01:27.17 | dooglus | about once a week I get 404 errors when running apt-get update |
| 01:27.25 | dooglus | here's today's: Failed to fetch http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.6.4-5_i386.deb 404 Not Found |
| 01:27.28 | Mutiny_ | i AM wonder, not i'm not wondering ;) |
| 01:27.35 | dooglus | who should I tell about this ongoing problem? |
| 01:27.42 | Mutiny_ | dooglus apt-get update |
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| 01:27.47 | shogunx | Mutiny_ does the stock kernel use an initrd? if so, and the new kernel does not... |
| 01:28.15 | Mutiny_ | they should be using the same things, since all else is the same except that i compiled it myself. |
| 01:28.19 | dooglus | Mutiny_: I'm not a command shell. why are you typing commands at me? :) |
| 01:28.30 | Mutiny_ | i wonder if i'm missing any patches or something? |
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| 01:30.06 | Mutiny_ | my grub doesn't seem to indicate any initrd |
| 01:32.07 | shogunx | did you just copy the .config over? |
| 01:33.27 | shogunx | when i build a new kernel, i usually do a make menuconfig and exit immediately to write a generic .config then make oldconfig, make, etc. |
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| 01:34.11 | Mutiny_ | yes i just copied /boot/config-2.6.16-2-686 to /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 01:34.22 | shogunx | i do, however, always configure the first kernel i build on a box manually. |
| 01:34.40 | dooglus | Mutiny_: it seems that the mirror I'm using is updating its package list before it updates its packages. I just ran an apt-get upgrade again, and this time all the missing packages beginning with 'k' were now no longer missing. |
| 01:35.06 | shogunx | Mutiny_, try the above method. |
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| 01:35.39 | koder | hi all...i need some help... |
| 01:35.58 | Ronin | !tell koder about ask |
| 01:35.58 | Mutiny_ | make menuconfig save it make oldconfig ? |
| 01:36.00 | koder | i umount ed an iso image while nautillus was accessing it... |
| 01:36.03 | Ronin | heh |
| 01:36.04 | Ronin | never mind |
| 01:36.11 | koder | now nautilus keeps giving errors... |
| 01:36.11 | shogunx | Mutiny_, yep. |
| 01:36.18 | stoned | !enter |
| 01:36.18 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter every 3 words makes it difficult and annoying for us to follow what you're saying. Please try to type multiple sentences or phrases on a single line. (Remember, the less you annoy us, the more help you're likely to get.) |
| 01:36.25 | stoned | koder, ^^ |
| 01:36.32 | koder | ? |
| 01:36.40 | Ronin | koder: he means type more hit enter less |
| 01:36.42 | koder | i loged out and then came back in...still the same... |
| 01:36.56 | shogunx | !bongswat |
| 01:36.56 | dpkg | hmm... bongswat is "Hit the bong, man!" |
| 01:36.57 | koder | ok...sorry. :D |
| 01:37.01 | stoned | if you type out your whole problem, one line, think about it, phrase it good, you'll get more help |
| 01:37.26 | stoned | big channels go too fast, multiple lines of one thought makes it really hard to follow |
| 01:37.45 | Guerin | woot, university is over, so I can do bong hits again! |
| 01:37.50 | koder | ok...i will come and ask for help once i try restarting...brb...:) |
| 01:37.57 | stoned | Guerin, you toke? I did not know that |
| 01:38.08 | pterandon | Hi. I have a problem with flickr. Typing "apt-get install kflickr" messes up KDE. Where is the proper forum to challenge it being in the package mangr? |
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| 01:38.42 | Guerin | pterandon: define 'messes up' |
| 01:38.42 | stoned | pterandon, what do you mean messes it up? |
| 01:38.57 | Guerin | pterandon: for that matter, define 'challenge it being |
| 01:38.58 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.00 | pterandon | It installs some wierd libraries. |
| 01:39.13 | Ronin | define wierd then |
| 01:39.16 | Guerin | pterandon: it installs them, or uninstalls some shit? |
| 01:39.19 | pterandon | I mean to challenge it being something you can apt-get. |
| 01:39.25 | Ronin | pterandon: precise information would be helpful |
| 01:39.30 | pterandon | It installs some shitty libraries |
| 01:39.42 | Guerin | pterandon: file a bug against it ... but 'it installs some weird libraries' is not any sort of reason |
| 01:39.45 | Guerin | wtf |
| 01:39.48 | Guerin | !vagueness |
| 01:39.48 | dpkg | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
| 01:39.57 | Guerin | pterandon: be *explicit* |
| 01:39.58 | Ronin | and shitty libraries isnt being precise |
| 01:40.07 | asg | Guerin: #38675 - It installed some shitty libraries |
| 01:40.18 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 38675 |
| 01:40.19 | pterandon | It's slightly over my head. K. |
| 01:40.19 | Guerin | does it install libpoo and libarse? |
| 01:40.21 | dpkg | #:N[] ; |
| 01:40.32 | dondelelcaro | yerp; YA bug that did not escape the great FOAD. |
| 01:40.57 | Guerin | pterandon: does kflickr work? |
| 01:40.57 | shogunx | Guerin, libbunghole too... |
| 01:41.05 | Ronin | pterandon: then explain it to the bes of your abilites then :) |
| 01:41.08 | stoned | lol |
| 01:41.10 | Guerin | shogunx: libtp0 |
| 01:41.13 | Ronin | umm best even |
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| 01:41.17 | shogunx | heh |
| 01:41.28 | pterandon | yes, the app loads now. |
| 01:41.44 | Guerin | pterandon: don't worry your little head about it, then. |
| 01:41.53 | pterandon | Are you folks talking about "shitty libraries"; am I right or imprecise and crazy? |
| 01:42.04 | stoned | what is a shitty library ffs? |
| 01:42.06 | Guerin | pterandon: YOU brought it up. |
| 01:42.18 | Ronin | pterandon: imprecise as to crazy you'd need to see a doctor for that one |
| 01:42.24 | thingfish | Guerin: you're supposed to say, "Don't worry your *pointed* little head about it." |
| 01:42.37 | pterandon | anyone willing to try "apt-get install kflickr" ? |
| 01:42.39 | Guerin | pterandon: here, have a thingfish |
| 01:42.57 | Guerin | pterandon: no, because it would result in me having to install lots of shitty kde libraries |
| 01:43.04 | pterandon | ha! |
| 01:43.06 | Ronin | Guerin: ewww |
| 01:43.07 | asg | Guerin: can I have it on a bun? |
| 01:43.07 | Guerin | for flickr |
| 01:43.08 | thingfish | I come in sour cream sauce or pickled. |
| 01:43.12 | Guerin | which is a waste of air anyhow |
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| 01:43.38 | Ronin | wonder if we have enough tp here for all those shitty libraries |
| 01:43.43 | stoned | what is kflickr |
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| 01:43.46 | pterandon | So what is the mechanism for filing a bug against something in the package manager? |
| 01:43.48 | Guerin | asg: here's one: http://news.imagethief.com/photos/xinjiang/picture6565.aspx |
| 01:43.56 | odla | !bts |
| 01:43.56 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 01:44.03 | Ronin | pterandon: how about giving us an exact problem first before you do that |
| 01:44.07 | pterandon | k |
| 01:44.11 | Guerin | pterandon: type 'reportbug' in your terminal |
| 01:44.11 | shogunx | the worst are libfloater and libupperdeck |
| 01:44.25 | asg | Guerin: man, those sheep put me to shame |
| 01:44.27 | Guerin | shogunx: presume it';s a kde flickr client |
| 01:44.35 | Ronin | cause if yo file a bug like its installed some shitty libraries i can guess what theyll do with your report |
| 01:45.01 | pterandon | Just wasn't quite up to wrecking my system again to get the precise details. I think this app isn't playing by the rules. |
| 01:45.06 | shogunx | Ronin they will wipe their ass with it? |
| 01:45.08 | Ronin | shogunx: its those libclingons that kill me |
| 01:45.21 | pterandon | and okay okay okay, lol, I suppose I deserve this abuse! |
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| 01:45.41 | asg | pterandon: s/abuse/friendly joshing/ |
| 01:45.50 | pterandon | ya |
| 01:46.10 | shogunx | Ronin is that a fork of libdingleberry3 ? |
| 01:46.31 | Ronin | owww you win |
| 01:46.40 | asg | shogunx: there's libdingleberry3? I'll have to upgrade to sid for that!! |
| 01:46.41 | dan2 | asg! |
| 01:46.43 | stoned | pterandon, /usr/lib/kde3/libkflickrpart.la, /usr/lib/kde3/libkflickrpart.so <-- these are the only two libs this package contains, and it does not depend on any other package. The following NEW packages will be installed: kflickr. 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. I have the app up and running. What is "messes up" mean? |
| 01:46.44 | pterandon | But I was hoping someone with greater computer literacy than I would try it and say, "oh yeah, it is shitty" or say, "you don't know what you're talking 'bout". apt-get install kflickr |
| 01:46.46 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 01:46.56 | dan2 | asg: how are ya? |
| 01:47.04 | asg | dan2: pretty good, you? |
| 01:47.09 | dan2 | asg: excellent |
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| 01:47.19 | asg | dan2: glad to hear it |
| 01:47.20 | pterandon | oh man, for me it was doing all kinds of, libraries, and the system wouldn't work properly upon a reboot. |
| 01:47.31 | Mutiny_ | yeah still no joy |
| 01:47.32 | odla` | pterandon: use digikam |
| 01:47.33 | Guerin | pterandon: well, anything that starts with k has a high likelihood of being shitty |
| 01:47.34 | stoned | pterandon, are you using sarge, etch, or sid? |
| 01:47.35 | shogunx | asg yeah, but it depends on libcheapburrito, which is deprecated. |
| 01:47.43 | Mutiny_ | i tried that make oldconfig but that didn't work |
| 01:47.46 | asg | shogunx: there's always Taco Bell |
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| 01:47.53 | shogunx | true |
| 01:47.59 | Guerin | asg: non-free. See libtacohell |
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| 01:48.02 | dan2 | shogunx: hey |
| 01:48.06 | Mutiny_ | hmmm |
| 01:48.14 | shogunx | dan2 whazzup! |
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| 01:48.18 | pterandon | I'm using Knoppix 5.01 |
| 01:48.19 | Malawar | my display shuts itself off when it's idle for a few minutes.. what's the best way to adjust that? :P |
| 01:48.19 | ehj20 | what's the best way of installing an etch base system within a chroot. I've tried debootstrap, but I can't work out how to configure it - any suggestions? |
| 01:48.25 | asg | Guerin: well, it's basically-free (last time I was in one) |
| 01:48.26 | Mutiny_ | how would i compile a new kernel exactly like the kernel that comes with debian etch by default? |
| 01:48.27 | dan2 | shogunx: what a line up tonight, seeing all my favorite people at the same time |
| 01:48.28 | stoned | pterandon, this is #debian |
| 01:48.33 | Guerin | asg: maybe as in beer. |
| 01:48.37 | Mutiny_ | hmm |
| 01:48.37 | stoned | pterandon, go to #knoppix please |
| 01:48.41 | shogunx | dan2 yeah, it in rare form here. |
| 01:48.44 | Guerin | pterandon: that's definitely shitty. |
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| 01:48.59 | pterandon | Isn't this now mere debian as HDD install? |
| 01:49.01 | dan2 | shogunx: I had to hand code an xml parser today in java... not as bad as I thought |
| 01:49.09 | stoned | !based on debian |
| 01:49.10 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 01:49.14 | asg | Guerin: nothing better than cheap beer and cheaper Taco Bell after a long night |
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| 01:49.25 | Guerin | Mutiny_: install a debian etch kernel? |
| 01:49.44 | dan2 | asg: that is until you get the runs |
| 01:50.04 | asg | dan2: the beauty of the runs is simply that it doesn't last long. |
| 01:50.14 | dan2 | heh |
| 01:50.17 | Guerin | asg: unavailable due to license reasons here |
| 01:50.20 | stoned | and thaaaaaaatttss, how you do that. :) |
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| 01:50.24 | d0uglas | how can i figure out of a bin/cue i got is in vcd or svcd format? .. or kvcd too.. |
| 01:50.26 | Guerin | here it's all about a kebab |
| 01:50.32 | Malawar | hum |
| 01:50.40 | Guerin | d0uglas: file |
| 01:50.41 | Malawar | xset is for Xfree.. is there an equiv for xorg? |
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| 01:50.42 | asg | Guerin: nothing wrong with that |
| 01:50.52 | Mutiny_ | Guerin i need it from source so i can compile a module into the new system |
| 01:50.57 | Guerin | xset works for xorg, don't it? |
| 01:51.02 | smiler | Malawar: yes, xset :P |
| 01:51.07 | Malawar | xset -q says it can't open my display :( |
| 01:51.09 | shogunx | Mutiny_ just bite the bullet and config your kernel. |
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| 01:51.47 | sephknows | ok i need a lil help but nobody is in #debian-kde and answering... anyway i need to find out which of my four sound devices is the mic, and which is the speaker. i need to know this for Skype which doesnt automatically detect this, although the KControl thing for Sound has a Test that works fine for my speakers (but i cant tell if my Mic works at all). any ideas on any of this? |
| 01:51.56 | shogunx | dan2 whats with you and the java? |
| 01:51.59 | Guerin | Mutiny_: just build it as a module? Failing that, grab the config, put it in the root of the source tree, configure, build with initrd or whatever etch uses, and you're away |
| 01:52.10 | Guerin | Mutiny_: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 01:52.12 | dan2 | shogunx: I do it for work |
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| 01:52.49 | shogunx | dan2 i hope you make em pay well for it. |
| 01:52.49 | Guerin | sephknows: why have you got four sound services? |
| 01:52.49 | Malawar | odd |
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| 01:53.01 | dan2 | shogunx: this is my biggest invoice in the shortest time period |
| 01:53.09 | Mutiny_ | i don't know if i need initrd or not |
| 01:53.10 | Malawar | xset doesn't seem to obey the DISPLAY environemnt variable |
| 01:53.13 | Guerin | sephknows: anyway, ask in #skype, or run alsamixer and check the various levels |
| 01:53.28 | Malawar | or.. |
| 01:53.30 | shogunx | dan2 did those VOIP guys give in finally? |
| 01:53.33 | Malawar | oh |
| 01:53.37 | dan2 | shogunx: yup |
| 01:53.43 | Guerin | Mutiny_: you will if you're building an etch kernel exactly. Or yaird or whatever it uses. |
| 01:53.44 | Malawar | nevermind me. root can't modify a user's display :/ |
| 01:53.44 | shogunx | dan2 true;) |
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| 01:53.51 | dan2 | shogunx: I got my rate I wanted... I'm making bank |
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| 01:54.05 | shogunx | dan2... funny, me too lately:) |
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| 01:54.53 | shogunx | dan2 with little more than a soldering iron, a few scripts, and some good hookups:) |
| 01:55.53 | stoned | dan2, buy me some pot |
| 01:56.07 | shogunx | !bongswat |
| 01:56.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, bongswat is "Hit the bong, man!" |
| 01:56.15 | sephknows | i didnt have alsa installed, but my sound worked just fine. whats the deal? |
| 01:56.27 | asg | sephknows: you were using OSS? |
| 01:56.28 | shogunx | stoned... cmon now, its november. have you smoked all your harvest already? |
| 01:56.35 | sephknows | open source software? |
| 01:56.37 | Mutiny_ | hmm |
| 01:56.47 | sephknows | linux, gnu, kde, yep all oss |
| 01:56.54 | black_13 | i have just install mc (midnight commannder) and the normal ncurses chars are "funny" looking what causes this? |
| 01:56.55 | sephknows | asg: what you mean specifixal;ly? |
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| 01:57.03 | shogunx | sephknows, open sound system |
| 01:57.09 | sephknows | oh |
| 01:57.13 | stoned | !oss |
| 01:57.13 | dpkg | methinks oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 01:57.17 | sephknows | i suppose |
| 01:57.34 | sephknows | the lady doth protest too much, methinks |
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| 01:58.04 | sephknows | im installing alsa-oss now |
| 01:58.07 | sephknows | mebbe itll work |
| 01:58.38 | Mutiny_ | i have to do make-kpkg just to compile my own kernel? |
| 01:58.45 | sephknows | ok assuming i was using OSS, how would i adjust the volume and settings? |
| 01:58.59 | tictac | any nfs gurus here? |
| 01:59.02 | d0uglas | aumix, yo |
| 01:59.20 | shogunx | Mutiny_, no, only if you want a .deb |
| 01:59.30 | sephknows | ...? |
| 01:59.40 | d0uglas | aumix is the most powerful mixer to improve productivity |
| 01:59.41 | sephknows | oh yes im using OSS |
| 01:59.47 | tictac | it seems nfs is picky with which hardware you use. if i connect the devices to a 10/100 3com switch, it works great. if i connect them to a hub, using an xover cable, or a linksys 10/100 switch i get timed out errors |
| 02:00.13 | asg | tictac: probably a duplex mismatch |
| 02:00.13 | d0uglas | it allows superior volume control and advanced stereo balancing technology |
| 02:00.37 | tictac | one one of the devices can have their duplex messed with |
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| 02:00.52 | tictac | do you think it might be the large rsize and wsize (32768) ? |
| 02:01.15 | shogunx | tictac, i usually cap that at 8192 |
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| 02:02.23 | sephknows | there is no #skype or #skype-linux |
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| 02:02.45 | stoned | try #kde |
| 02:02.55 | Mutiny_ | shogunx that's what i thought. |
| 02:02.56 | Mutiny_ | hm. |
| 02:02.59 | stoned | its not kde integrated, but it is qt based |
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| 02:03.05 | Mutiny_ | this is killing me |
| 02:03.09 | stoned | you MIGHT find some related help but I doubt it |
| 02:03.16 | stoned | skype is a piece of poo |
| 02:03.29 | d0uglas | and not a firm piece of poo either |
| 02:04.10 | stoned | it hogs your soundcard, you must turn off any sound servers before you run skype, and make sure while you're using skype, that no other app tries to access the sound |
| 02:04.20 | sephknows | uhhh lmao! |
| 02:04.27 | sephknows | how do i turn off sound server btw |
| 02:04.31 | tictac | blah. tried without the r and w sizes with the same result |
| 02:05.04 | stoned | sephknows, are you using kde? |
| 02:05.08 | sephknows | yeppers |
| 02:05.14 | stoned | kilall -9 artsd |
| 02:05.21 | sephknows | then how will i turn it back on? |
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| 02:05.42 | stoned | or go to kcontrol > sound and multimedia > sound system |
| 02:05.46 | stoned | click it on or off |
| 02:05.57 | stoned | if I were you, I would leave it off always, and use dmix on alsa |
| 02:05.58 | stoned | !dmix |
| 02:05.59 | dpkg | dmix is, like, an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 02:06.15 | sephknows | so i can use the KControl sound "enabled" checkbox to disable all sound servers in KDE? |
| 02:06.20 | stoned | hardly any latency unlike arts, and less resource hogging |
| 02:06.24 | stoned | yes |
| 02:06.39 | Mutiny_ | how do i make a new initrd.img for my newly compiled kernel? |
| 02:07.06 | sephknows | hmm |
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| 02:08.01 | stoned | sephknows, arts is a horrible sound server, don't use it. Loom at what dpkg said. I believe dmix is enabled by default on alsa > 0.91something or other |
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| 02:08.25 | Guerin | !arts |
| 02:08.26 | dpkg | i heard arts is the multimedia framework of KDE, or teh sux, or see "esound". Arts Ruins Teh Sound |
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| 02:14.27 | eldowan | OK. I didn't join #ubuntu, but the channel just opened up. And I received a chanserv notice welcoming me to ubuntu. What give? |
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| 02:15.18 | xjkx | how do i see softwares installed? |
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| 02:16.11 | xjkx | :/ |
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| 02:19.42 | dob1 | you can use for example, dpkg -l |
| 02:19.49 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 02:19.49 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
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| 02:21.43 | ehj20 | How is an etch installation (produced by debootstrap) supposed to be configured now that base-config has been depreciated? |
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| 02:22.27 | dondelelcaro | ehj20: with an editor |
| 02:22.50 | dondelelcaro | ehj20: almost everything that actually requires configuration has debconf prompts to walk you through it |
| 02:22.50 | ehj20 | dondelelcaro: thanks. still: bah |
| 02:23.15 | ehj20 | hostname, locale, fstab... |
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| 02:23.23 | drew | I'm trying to package a small program with dh_make and am getting build failures (standard make works fine)... is this the best place to ask? |
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| 02:23.56 | dondelelcaro | mostly it's just a matter of running shadowconfig, tzconfig, setting up your hostname, fstab, and locale... that's pretty much it |
| 02:24.06 | dondelelcaro | drew: you can ask here |
| 02:24.14 | ehj20 | thanks |
| 02:24.48 | dondelelcaro | you're more than welcome to work on extracting base-config out of the installer again; but no one has yet done so. |
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| 02:25.34 | drew | debian/rules is using cdbs but I get this error: make: *** build-tree/<the program>: No such file or directory. Stop. |
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| 02:26.24 | ehj20 | dondelelcaro: Considering the time it's taken me to get a diskless boot working , I might |
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| 02:26.27 | drew | build-tree is being created but only contains an empty directory |
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| 02:26.35 | ehj20 | not be in the best position to do that |
| 02:27.02 | diilbert | I am having a problem when I try adding a task to the cron using KCron, when I go to save it tells me there was an error when updating the crontab file. |
| 02:27.10 | dondelelcaro | drew: that means that the unpack rules aren't being run. |
| 02:27.19 | dondelelcaro | drew: why are you using dh_make with cdbs? |
| 02:27.22 | diilbert | And I tried running kcron as root, w/o success |
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| 02:27.56 | dondelelcaro | and better, for simple packages, there's no need whatsoever to use the tarball cdbs setup; just use a normal orig.tar.gz with a normal diff.gz |
| 02:28.24 | drew | dondelelcaro: dh_make used cdbs by default |
| 02:28.50 | koder | when i start gnome-volume-manager i get and error saying that hald service isnt running or enable the service...it is both enabled and running...it says in the message that i must kernel 2.6...i have 2.6.18.1 (latest)...what could be the problem ?...i just reinstalled debian to get rid from this problem... :( |
| 02:28.58 | koder | an* |
| 02:29.10 | ehj20 | dondelelcaro: thanks again |
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| 02:29.23 | dondelelcaro | drew: don't tell me... this is dh_make from ubuntu. |
| 02:29.31 | koder | i need hald to use flash memory... |
| 02:29.36 | azureal | lo, is there a way to make my aptitude search results in color? (green if "i", for example?) |
| 02:29.55 | dondelelcaro | azureal: yes... use the format strings |
| 02:30.17 | dondelelcaro | well, it *may* be possible... I can't remember if they actually support color escapes easily. |
| 02:30.27 | azureal | yes, so far i have aptitude search -F "%c %10p# %d#" |
| 02:30.37 | azureal | this makes it look almost like the default |
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| 02:31.02 | diilbert | Any takers ? |
| 02:31.12 | azureal | with expandable package names and descriptions |
| 02:31.22 | drew | dondelelcaro: yes - sorry (read the topic, d'oh) but you have solved my problem - I commented out the tarball.mk line and it works! |
| 02:31.29 | azureal | dondelelcaro, i dont see color on is there a way to make my aptitude search results in color? (green if "i", for example?) |
| 02:31.31 | azureal | shit |
| 02:31.41 | azureal | i meant to copy http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/ch02s04s01.html#secDisplayFormat =/ |
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| 02:33.08 | drew | dondelelcaro: thanks for your help. I wouldn't expect to get much other than changing desktop background questions answered in #ubuntu. it seems all the noise that I remember in #debian has moved there ;) |
| 02:35.33 | dondelelcaro | drew: yeah; it's just things like dh_make suddenly using cdbs (which is annoying IMO) which make it obvious what distribution you're using |
| 02:35.51 | dondelelcaro | azureal: yeah, you'll have to embed literal ansi escapes into the format string |
| 02:36.16 | dondelelcaro | azureal: which will suck... my suggestion is to route the output through perl or something else to add the escapes |
| 02:36.30 | azureal | this is beyond me ... |
| 02:36.55 | dondelelcaro | well, almost no one cares about colors... so... if you want it, you'll have to learn. ;-) |
| 02:37.06 | azureal | [perl] |
| 02:37.21 | drew | dondelelcaro: I wondered if there was a difference when you asked: "why are you using dh_make with cdbs?" :) |
| 02:37.30 | dondelelcaro | azureal: heh; pick any language you want... |
| 02:37.57 | azureal | oh, really? can it somehow be done through bash scripting? =) |
| 02:38.14 | dondelelcaro | yeah... |
| 02:38.33 | dondelelcaro | it's just non-trivial, and you may end up calling perl anyway. ;-) |
| 02:38.42 | azureal | heh |
| 02:39.07 | azureal | but learning perl will just mess w/ my head, i'm afraid |
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| 02:39.19 | azureal | all those random /\.& and other crazy chars |
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| 02:40.19 | jbt | azureal: i bet got Perl wrong it's wonderful like your natural english language |
| 02:40.32 | azureal | liar! |
| 02:40.51 | azureal | but eng was not my first lang =P |
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| 02:41.53 | Wyzard | Anyone have any opinions on the Asus P5B Deluxe vs. the Abit AB9 Pro as far as suitability for a power-user Linux system? |
| 02:42.11 | jbt | azureal:then indeed it would be hard for you :) |
| 02:42.53 | dob1 | the package xfs-xtt is related to xfree? |
| 02:43.03 | azureal | these are all technicalities really... i now know english better than any other language |
| 02:43.07 | abrotman | Wyzard: if they're not scottish .. they're crap! |
| 02:43.48 | dob1 | or it is a deprecated package ? i don't understand why apt wants to remove it |
| 02:44.20 | dondelelcaro | dob1: you generally don't need it unless you actually want a font server. |
| 02:44.46 | xjkx | dpkg -l says i have rc openoffice.org 2.0.0-1 OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0 (((((but on apt-get remove openoffice.org says i have no openoffice installed)))) what? |
| 02:44.47 | dpkg | No packages found matching says i have rc openoffice.org 2.0.0-1 OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0 (((((but on apt-get remove openoffice.org says i have no openoffice installed)))) what |
| 02:44.58 | Wyzard | dob1: It's rarely needed these days because TrueType font rasterization functionality is in the X server itself |
| 02:45.00 | dob1 | dondelelcaro: i configured it time ago as font server, now it wants to remove it |
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| 02:45.01 | dondelelcaro | xjkx: it's not installed. |
| 02:45.07 | mina_linux_Tux | hey anybody there , i want to know what are the models or the name for the mini notebooks / |
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| 02:45.13 | abrotman | xjkx: man dpkg .. look for purge |
| 02:45.25 | Wyzard | dob1: and because the current trend in newer apps (GTK/QT stuff) is not using the X font protocol anyway |
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| 02:45.28 | abrotman | mina_linux_Tux: made by? |
| 02:45.32 | xjkx | man page says very bad about purge |
| 02:45.44 | Wyzard | dob1: You'd only need to run a font server if you wanted to serve fonts over a network to legacy clients for some reason |
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| 02:45.56 | mina_linux_Tux | abrotman: don't know i saw one but i'm asking i want to know its name only |
| 02:46.08 | amphi | mina_linux_Tux: you think of toshiba libretto? or x series stinkpads? |
| 02:46.09 | dob1 | Wyzard: ah ok, so i have only to add the font path to xorg.conf and remove this package? |
| 02:46.22 | abrotman | mina_linux_Tux: ask google ? there are quite a few .. lifebook is one |
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| 02:46.44 | Wyzard | dob1: You don't even need to manually add font paths, unless you're putting fonts in a non-standard location |
| 02:46.48 | xjkx | apt-get purge openoffice.org doesnt work :P man page says nothing about usage of purge, just says what it is |
| 02:47.05 | abrotman | man dpkg |
| 02:47.55 | xjkx | abrotman, they dont say about usage, tells what purge is |
| 02:47.56 | dob1 | Wyzard: i don't know, i did that time ago and now i don't remember how to configure it, i have a lot of FontPath lines on xorg.conf (was XF86Config-4.conf) , but there is the line : FontPath "unix/:7110". that it is for this fontserver |
| 02:48.19 | abrotman | xjkx: it tells you how to purge a package |
| 02:48.27 | abrotman | xjkx: you have ot use dpkg to do it .. not apt-get |
| 02:48.30 | Wyzard | dob1: That's for the font server, but you don't need it anymore -- in fact, you should take it out if you're not running a font server, because it makes X start a few seconds faster if it doesn't have to try to contact a font server that's not running |
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| 02:48.47 | Wyzard | dob1: And you can take out the other paths too, while you're at it; they're built-in now |
| 02:48.52 | mina_linux_Tux | amphi: yes something like libretto :) |
| 02:48.54 | Wyzard | dob1: I have no font paths at all in my xorg.conf and it works fine |
| 02:49.34 | abrotman | toshiba libretto |
| 02:49.43 | dob1 | Wyzard: ok, but i remember that i did that for some font size problem, and putting them on some order or on a font server will resolve this, do you agree to that ? |
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| 02:50.23 | mina_linux_Tux | is there someone like this libretto but by dell ? |
| 02:50.31 | Wyzard | dob1: yeah, there was something involving adding ":unscaled" or ":nonscaled" or something, to avoid bitmap fonts from being scaled |
| 02:50.43 | Wyzard | dob1: but I rarely even see bitmap fonts these days, so I don't bother with it |
| 02:50.50 | abrotman | mina_linux_Tux: call dell ... ask them .. or ask #hardware |
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| 02:51.06 | odla` | isn't there a dell guy who hangs out here? |
| 02:51.18 | dob1 | Wyzard: ok i try to remove the fontpath lines |
| 02:51.21 | dob1 | thanks |
| 02:51.30 | dvs | odla`: stoned? |
| 02:51.39 | abrotman | petemc? |
| 02:51.47 | dvs | abrotman? |
| 02:51.48 | abrotman | i don't think dell makes an ultra portable |
| 02:51.50 | odla` | dvs: not sure |
| 02:51.51 | abrotman | certainly not me |
| 02:51.55 | dvs | heh |
| 02:52.51 | khaije1 | gstreamer is nice too |
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| 02:54.19 | khaije1 | oops, responding to old statement 0_o |
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| 02:57.59 | xjkx | "ii koffice-i18n-ptbr 1.3.5-2 Brazilian Portuguese (pt_BR) translations fo" its on dpkg -l, how do i find the binary of koffice, i want to run koffice, but koffice in bash doesnt work, neither whereis koffice'*' |
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| 03:01.44 | lunitik | xjkx: koshell ... although thats probably not what you really want |
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| 03:02.16 | lunitik | xjkx: each part of koffice is its own package... and these packages would tell ya what the bin is... |
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| 03:03.01 | lunitik | xjkx: 'dpkg -L kword | grep bin' for instance would be a good start... |
| 03:03.35 | lunitik | (although the bin is the same as the package... so also not useful really... but whatever) |
| 03:04.36 | focker | Wondering what anyone thinks about switching to debian unstable on a sparc ultra5. Any thoughts? Too unstable for desktop use? |
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| 03:04.43 | xjkx | says koffice is not installed o.O maybe its only the language thing that i have |
| 03:04.54 | focker | looking to have newer pkgs |
| 03:05.16 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 03:05.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 03:05.17 | lunitik | xjkx: I'd think translations depend the main packages... maybe not though :/ |
| 03:05.43 | lunitik | focker: it should be fine... there is also Nexanta that might be interesting to you :) |
| 03:06.05 | lunitik | focker: (Solaris + Ubuntu ... but someone will likely give me stick for bringing it up) |
| 03:07.09 | lunitik | No one can possibly know SPARC better than Sun... so yeah |
| 03:07.24 | abrotman | fujitsu |
| 03:07.56 | focker | a friend is an Ubuntu paid dev and pointed me to a Ubuntu server iso for sparc |
| 03:08.00 | lunitik | abrotman: I'd still argue not _better_ ... maybe they know as much, I'm not familier with that relationship |
| 03:08.13 | abrotman | lunitik: uhm .. Fujitsu makes the SPARC now .. |
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| 03:08.46 | h3sp4wn | It doesn't make the os or design it though |
| 03:08.59 | h3sp4wn | manufacturers it maybe |
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| 03:09.58 | abrotman | SPARC isn't an OS |
| 03:10.20 | lunitik | focker: I wouldn't recommend plain Ubuntu in #debian ... I'd think Solaris on a SPARC would be a good choice though... although Sun supports Ubuntu... |
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| 03:10.24 | Seb | i tried m-a on ieee80211-source, and I somehow got this error: dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture i386 does not appear in package's list (amd64) |
| 03:10.28 | Seb | i'm not quite sure what it means |
| 03:10.30 | Kobaz | ~find x11.pc |
| 03:10.35 | Seb | i am indeed on i386 |
| 03:11.13 | lunitik | Seb: you have libc6-amd64 installed? |
| 03:11.27 | Seb | lunitik: no, why would I ? I'm on i386... |
| 03:11.32 | Seb | lemme oduble-check, though |
| 03:11.40 | lunitik | (I think that's the package... dpkg -l | grep libc |
| 03:11.43 | Seb | hrm, I do :\ |
| 03:11.50 | Seb | interesting, this is a fresh install |
| 03:11.51 | focker | lunitik: I just got Debian stable on teh sparc, but the kde on it is several yrs old. Like 3.3.2 |
| 03:11.51 | lunitik | Seb: yeah... bad :P |
| 03:11.53 | Seb | why do I have that |
| 03:11.55 | Seb | ? |
| 03:12.10 | Seb | focker: that's about 17 years old, yeah |
| 03:12.10 | lunitik | Seb: no idea... but you don't want it ;) |
| 03:12.14 | Seb | lunitik: k |
| 03:13.09 | Seb | lunitik: I still get the same error from m-a though... |
| 03:13.17 | lunitik | focker: to answer your question, Sid should be fine for a desktop as long as you're careful |
| 03:13.31 | focker | careful how? |
| 03:13.38 | abrotman | etch might be a better start |
| 03:13.56 | lunitik | focker: don't dist-upgrade every day for instance... things _will_ break from time to time :S |
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| 03:14.53 | lunitik | That's based on very little experience with testing though, and still encountering rather a lot of issues... |
| 03:15.02 | abrotman | yeah .. you also like kde .. you're weird :) |
| 03:15.22 | lunitik | abrotman: as an aside... focker is looking to use KDE... |
| 03:15.24 | Seb | lunitik: k it's a know bug |
| 03:15.36 | abrotman | lunitik: good for him |
| 03:16.46 | abrotman | apt-get install gnome .. too hard for you ? |
| 03:17.00 | Kobaz | yay |
| 03:17.01 | abrotman | apt: you're slow |
| 03:17.11 | apt | i'll take that as a complement |
| 03:17.13 | lunitik | abrotman: I'd _never_ install 'gnome'... bloat is bad mmk |
| 03:17.44 | abrotman | your statements hold no weight |
| 03:18.02 | lunitik | abrotman: gnome-core + apps I actually want is more intelligent |
| 03:18.11 | abrotman | good for you |
| 03:18.35 | lunitik | kde-core + apps I want is more intelligent... but yeah :D |
| 03:19.46 | Kobaz | why can't everyone just get along and use afterstep :P |
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| 03:20.12 | lunitik | Kobaz: ew |
| 03:20.35 | lunitik | Kobaz: you've been talking to tarzeau too much |
| 03:20.42 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 03:21.07 | Kobaz | i've been using afterstep for something like 10 years now, i can't find any other window manager that makes me happy |
| 03:21.52 | Kobaz | but it's only afterstep 1.8 though, anything newer is quite terrible actually |
| 03:21.53 | abrotman | it's funny? |
| 03:22.07 | lunitik | abrotman: yes... funny... to me... |
| 03:22.14 | abrotman | because you're retarded ? |
| 03:22.17 | Kobaz | haha |
| 03:22.21 | Kobaz | where the hell did that come from |
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| 03:23.05 | lunitik | abrotman: I'm retarded because an open source project has an overly complicated build process... and I think the irony is funny? |
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| 03:23.23 | abrotman | oh dear lord .. a build process is complicated .. shocker |
| 03:24.06 | lunitik | complicated enough for a respected distro maintainer to grow tired of it... |
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| 03:24.27 | abrotman | do people still use slackware? |
| 03:24.33 | Kobaz | heh |
| 03:24.35 | lunitik | abrotman: yes |
| 03:24.45 | Kobaz | massochist |
| 03:24.48 | tictac | nfs gurus? |
| 03:24.55 | abrotman | lunitik: perhaps you'd like to go use it .. |
| 03:25.03 | abrotman | tictac: just ask |
| 03:25.13 | h3sp4wn | gnome seems includes mono (as of 2.6.16) that is reason enough to avoid it in my eyes |
| 03:25.17 | lunitik | abrotman: not particularly... |
| 03:25.18 | tictac | ive got 2 boxes linked with xover cable. one side says that authenticated mount from xxx (the other machine) |
| 03:25.25 | lunitik | abrotman: not the point... |
| 03:25.26 | abrotman | lunitik: please do |
| 03:25.26 | tictac | but the other machine says rpc: timed out |
| 03:25.33 | h3sp4wn | (other than the kde apps are better anyway) |
| 03:25.47 | abrotman | so why do you care about a build process ? |
| 03:25.50 | Kobaz | bah |
| 03:25.51 | tictac | the link is negotiated 100Base-TX-FD according to mii-tool. |
| 03:25.54 | abrotman | !win me |
| 03:25.54 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 03:25.55 | Kobaz | stupid hippy crap |
| 03:26.00 | Kobaz | ~find xrandr.pc |
| 03:26.02 | tictac | ive been tinkering with this for hours... :( |
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| 03:26.17 | abrotman | firewall ? |
| 03:26.24 | tictac | none |
| 03:26.29 | abrotman | Kobaz: use apt-file |
| 03:26.33 | abrotman | that bot is slow |
| 03:26.46 | Kobaz | abrotman: ah yeah, i was wondering about that.. if there was another way |
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| 03:27.04 | abrotman | Kobaz: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search <foo> |
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| 03:27.32 | abrotman | !search |
| 03:27.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. |
| 03:27.32 | Kobaz | yeap, just figured that out |
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| 03:27.38 | zepeuga | guys, i have my battery monitor working on kde, but in xfce it doesnt give me the remaining time, just the % |
| 03:27.45 | tictac | mount options are rw,hard,sync |
| 03:27.49 | Kobaz | abrotman: that's not what i need, but thanks |
| 03:28.01 | Kobaz | apt-file is it |
| 03:28.03 | abrotman | you're searching for a file .. that's what apt-file does |
| 03:28.06 | Kobaz | yeah |
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| 03:28.12 | abrotman | lunitik: because you continue to argue it ... |
| 03:28.13 | Kobaz | but you showed me apt-cache too |
| 03:28.15 | lunitik | I'd think the devels would want to make such things as easy as possible... but no |
| 03:28.19 | abrotman | inu|sleep: FIX YOUR DAMN COMPUTER |
| 03:28.29 | Kobaz | oh hmm |
| 03:28.31 | Kobaz | okay never mind |
| 03:28.33 | Kobaz | ignore me |
| 03:28.42 | Kobaz | apt-file was in the message too |
| 03:29.12 | Kobaz | thanks :) |
| 03:29.17 | lunitik | !enter |
| 03:29.18 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter every 3 words makes it difficult and annoying for us to follow what you're saying. Please try to type multiple sentences or phrases on a single line. (Remember, the less you annoy us, the more help you're likely to get.) |
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| 03:29.36 | Kobaz | hehe |
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| 03:29.42 | gmf | Hi, how can i see how much of cpu and ram that is currently used? |
| 03:29.49 | Kobaz | gmf: top |
| 03:29.50 | abrotman | free and top |
| 03:29.57 | Kobaz | i win, i win |
| 03:30.11 | abrotman | half the battle? :) |
| 03:30.27 | Kobaz | top shows ram too |
| 03:30.40 | lunitik | wow... abrotman wasn't kidding about apt being slow |
| 03:30.49 | abrotman | that bot has been slow for a while |
| 03:30.53 | abrotman | used to be much better |
| 03:30.56 | Kobaz | haha, yeah, it took about that long for the first search |
| 03:31.03 | abrotman | and ravenbird uses PPC sources iirc ... |
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| 03:31.22 | tictac | when i try and restart nfs-kernel-server it hangs on exporting the direcories... |
| 03:31.30 | grendal_prime | ok an l2tp client? |
| 03:31.50 | Kobaz | tictac: are the directories non-accessable network volumes? |
| 03:32.16 | zepeuga | guys, i have my battery monitor working on kde, but in xfce it doesnt give me the remaining time, just the % |
| 03:32.22 | lunitik | grendal_prime: use the tools god provided, lazy bastard... apt-cache search l2tp |
| 03:32.39 | grendal_prime | anyone...i thought i could do it with kvpnc but umm well i cant figer out this cert. and how it is it goes into this thing...none of the cert types match the L2tp description |
| 03:32.42 | grendal_prime | thats a client? |
| 03:32.47 | abrotman | time remaining is usually inaccurate |
| 03:33.07 | zepeuga | abrotman, but it just says 00:00 |
| 03:33.08 | grendal_prime | lunitik, all i see is l2tps. |
| 03:33.19 | grendal_prime | no client that i can tell |
| 03:33.31 | tictac | Kobaz: no. they are on the local machine. |
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| 03:33.35 | abrotman | zepeuga: i'm just saying that it's usually wrong .. i go by percentage .. the time remaining is always wrong for me |
| 03:33.37 | Kobaz | zepeuga: could be trying to use a depricated method of bettery time retreval |
| 03:33.55 | Kobaz | tictac: run strace on it, and see what it's opening up, and what it's doing before it pauses |
| 03:34.16 | zepeuga | Kobaz, what can i do ? |
| 03:34.20 | Kobaz | zepeuga: some apps aren't updated to cope with the changes in the kernel |
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| 03:34.43 | zepeuga | ok |
| 03:34.44 | Kobaz | zepeuga: easiest way would be to try a different app |
| 03:34.58 | grendal_prime | lunitik, maybe im missing some repository? |
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| 03:36.38 | tictac | Kobaz: strace doesnt tell me anything when i run it on /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart.. it just sits there just as the normal command does after it echoes 'exporting directories....' to the screen |
| 03:36.41 | lunitik | grendal_prime: dunno |
| 03:37.10 | Kobaz | tictac: strace doesn't handle forking, run nfs server with the command line that nfs-kernel-server is using |
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| 03:40.21 | gmf | Hi, i just ran a test using httperf on my server which i use as a webserver and is running: debian/apache/rails/mongrel .. Since im not have that deep knowledge in servers i dont understand the results of my test: http://pastie.caboo.se/19616 <-- would be great if someone could check it out and give me a comment |
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| 03:42.09 | grendal_prime | W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libc/libcli/libcli1_1.8.4-1_i386.deb |
| 03:42.09 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:43.00 | Kobaz | you broke it |
| 03:43.34 | Kobaz | grendal_prime: do other hosts not work? or just that one |
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| 03:44.07 | grendal_prime | just that particular one from what i can tell |
| 03:44.08 | grendal_prime | werid |
| 03:44.15 | grendal_prime | hmm im gonna add some other repos |
| 03:44.44 | grendal_prime | lunitik, you talking about a sarge package or etch when it comes to that lttpc? |
| 03:44.50 | grendal_prime | l2tp that is |
| 03:45.44 | grendal_prime | i really dont want to have to build a stupid ass linux box just because i cant to the ms vpn machine to get to my linux boxes on the other side. |
| 03:46.01 | grendal_prime | sorry that should have been a stupid ass windows box |
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| 03:47.23 | Jubei_ | guys does anybody know where I can find a mysql 5+ package for debian? |
| 03:47.38 | Jubei_ | I tried to get the ubuntu package but it requires a libc6 version higher than the one installed in sarge |
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| 03:48.17 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 03:48.20 | Kobaz | wiggity |
| 03:48.35 | Kobaz | i get no sound with flash player 9 :( |
| 03:49.40 | bvs | Jubei_, sarge? |
| 03:49.52 | Jubei_ | yes |
| 03:49.56 | dob1 | Jubei_: have you seen on backports.org? |
| 03:50.06 | dob1 | maybe there |
| 03:50.07 | Jubei_ | err.. I don't even know what that is |
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| 03:50.31 | dob1 | there are some backports of package from stable/testing to stable |
| 03:50.47 | Jubei_ | aha, nice I"m checking it out right now |
| 03:51.03 | bvs | yeah it's on backports |
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| 03:52.26 | Jubei_ | how do I change my release to testing? |
| 03:52.38 | Jubei_ | just change it on /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 03:52.46 | Kobaz | yeap |
| 03:52.49 | dob1 | yes |
| 03:53.08 | Jubei_ | replace wherever I see stable with testing, right? |
| 03:54.33 | smagy2 | and then run apt-get update and then apt-upgrade |
| 03:55.11 | Jubei_ | :) thanks! |
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| 03:58.38 | Jubei_ | btw is the debian project still active? they haven't made a release for so long |
| 03:58.44 | Jubei_ | makes me wonder if they ever will |
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| 03:59.24 | grendal_prime | i find it very odd that there is nothing out ther that can connect to those servers. |
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| 04:14.00 | Stevie-O | wtf |
| 04:14.06 | d0uglas | omg |
| 04:14.06 | Stevie-O | apt-proxy is flaking out on me >:( |
| 04:14.49 | Stevie-O | oyg? |
| 04:15.20 | d0uglas | afaik, ianal |
| 04:16.40 | Stevie-O | goddamnit |
| 04:17.09 | d0uglas | jesus tapdancing christ |
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| 04:30.15 | grendal_prime | wow |
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| 04:35.24 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 04:35.25 | dpkg | -dmwaters- {global notice} Hi all! One of our staffer used brackets in a kline, and this caused the servers to crash. We're working on an immediate fix for this problem, and hopefully will have something as soon as possible. I'm very sorry for the interuptions that this has caused, and thank you all for your patience. |
| 04:36.17 | Guerin | haha |
| 04:38.38 | Stevie-O | lmao |
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| 04:39.17 | Stevie-O | You gotta wonder what kind of code they were writing that crashed upon receipt of a [ or ] |
| 04:39.45 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 04:39.53 | grendal_prime | can anyone read this then? |
| 04:39.58 | Guerin | yes |
| 04:40.03 | zinx | dancer was genuine k-wality |
| 04:40.05 | grendal_prime | o good |
| 04:40.36 | grendal_prime | so, there is serioiusly no l2tp client out there that actually works for connecting to these lame ass windows vpn servers? |
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| 04:40.44 | Stevie-O | l2tp? |
| 04:40.49 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 04:40.53 | Guerin | !l2tp |
| 04:40.54 | dpkg | i heard l2tp is Layer Two (2) Tunneling Protocol an extension to the PPP protocol that enables ISPs to operate Virtual Private Networks (VPNs),ask me about RP-L2TP or OpenL2TP |
| 04:41.04 | Guerin | never heard of it |
| 04:41.09 | Guerin | use something supported |
| 04:41.34 | Stevie-O | !openl2tp |
| 04:41.34 | dpkg | from memory, openl2tp is an open source L2TP client / server, written by Katalix Systems specifically for Linux, http://opensource.katalix.com/openl2tp/ |
| 04:41.36 | grendal_prime | i cant, they already have this fkn thing in place. im new, i never use windoes. |
| 04:42.01 | Stevie-O | Perhaps you could use that. |
| 04:42.01 | grendal_prime | ive been looking all over the damn net for hours for this.. |
| 04:42.24 | Stevie-O | I googled 'openl2tp' and it's the first result... |
| 04:43.22 | grendal_prime | i was gogleing l2tp |
| 04:43.55 | grendal_prime | never the less, will that connect to the standard windoz l2tp servers? |
| 04:44.18 | Stevie-O | nfi |
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| 04:44.21 | Stevie-O | tias :) |
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| 04:50.49 | macken | help. kde su is not recognising my root password. |
| 04:51.31 | macken | CLI is ok. |
| 04:52.40 | liable | macken: theres a bug, has been for a while |
| 04:53.11 | macken | really? i taught i had mess it up. |
| 04:53.17 | grendal_prime | it is the only bug though |
| 04:53.19 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 04:53.23 | grendal_prime | there is just one. |
| 04:53.29 | macken | not been debugged? |
| 04:53.32 | liable | macken: i presume, people have been complaining for a week or so now |
| 04:54.09 | macken | really? i can recall now that it happen after an upgrade. |
| 04:54.34 | grendal_prime | and no l2tp client...which is just a travesty...how will we ever log onto all these damn windows systems and fire off "debian takeover" if we cant even log into there stupid ass l2tp vpn's |
| 04:54.54 | liable | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393253 |
| 04:55.04 | liable | macken: ^^ |
| 04:55.27 | grendal_prime | OpenL2TP has rpms availabel. |
| 04:55.49 | grendal_prime | but....grrrr im really not in the mood to do that. |
| 04:55.51 | Guerin | !cplay |
| 04:56.10 | macken | liable: ok, viewing that page. thks. |
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| 05:10.31 | jnguy | Hello all. |
| 05:10.37 | jnguy | Anyone care to help me with dri? |
| 05:10.39 | mrkris | hello jnguy |
| 05:10.43 | Guerin | stupid network! |
| 05:10.50 | mrkris | smart network! |
| 05:10.57 | jnguy | tee hee. |
| 05:11.05 | mrkris | :o :o :o |
| 05:11.35 | jnguy | So I've got a i830 chipset (its a laptop), and I configured X, enabled to kernel modules, yet can't get direct rendering working. |
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| 05:13.52 | liable | whats the x log say about dri? |
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| 05:14.49 | jnguy | just says it loaded it. |
| 05:16.14 | jnguy | it couldn't load speedo though... |
| 05:16.34 | amphi | jnguy: give that no mind |
| 05:17.01 | jnguy | complains about broken bios? |
| 05:17.02 | liable | and glxinfo says no direct rendering? |
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| 05:17.07 | jnguy | yep. |
| 05:17.51 | liable | put your log on a paster |
| 05:17.52 | jnguy | (WW) I810(0): i830 Kernel module detected, Use the i915 Kernel module instead, aborting DRI init. |
| 05:17.53 | jnguy | hm? |
| 05:18.04 | liable | ah |
| 05:18.24 | jnguy | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 05:18.38 | jnguy | I did a little research last night, and it said to enable both i830 and i915. |
| 05:18.41 | jnguy | is that not correct? |
| 05:19.04 | luge | no that is not correct |
| 05:19.12 | jnguy | disable the i830? |
| 05:19.14 | liable | unload 1839 and just load the 915 one, restart x and see what it says |
| 05:19.23 | jnguy | 1839? |
| 05:20.21 | liable | i830, my typing sucks, and my brain seems to be having a day off today :) |
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| 05:20.34 | jnguy | ah. :) |
| 05:20.44 | jnguy | there is another one, i810 |
| 05:20.49 | jnguy | not sure if thats for audio. |
| 05:21.15 | liable | i think theres a i810 graphics as well as the oss moudules |
| 05:21.27 | jnguy | hmmm. |
| 05:21.28 | jnguy | okay. |
| 05:21.31 | jnguy | I disabled i830 |
| 05:21.32 | jnguy | brb. |
| 05:21.33 | jnguy | THanks guys. |
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| 05:23.08 | jnguy | you guys are pretty amazing. |
| 05:23.56 | liable | i think l337 is teh word :) |
| 05:24.00 | liable | jk :P |
| 05:24.06 | jnguy | :) |
| 05:24.09 | jnguy | who would've thunk. |
| 05:24.13 | jnguy | odd. |
| 05:24.17 | jnguy | alt-drag doesn't work anymore. |
| 05:24.44 | liable | i need to get back to work so i stop drinking so much booze |
| 05:24.47 | Guerin | peterS: how do the offset types work in cplay? |
| 05:25.27 | Guerin | peterS: and why does skipping forward/back not work when i put [any]OffsetPlayer("mplayer -vo null %s", "\.*$") in .cplayrc? |
| 05:25.32 | peterS | Guerin: I don't remember (: what do I look like, the maintainer? (: |
| 05:25.48 | Guerin | sniff, sniff ... you smell like one |
| 05:26.07 | jnguy | haha. |
| 05:26.20 | jnguy | I need to get a high power desktop, or something better than my laptop |
| 05:26.29 | jnguy | 3ddesktop is so slow, I'm guessing beryl won't work well. |
| 05:26.59 | jnguy | hm |
| 05:27.00 | jnguy | brb |
| 05:27.11 | jnguy | see if restarting x will help with the alt-drag |
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| 05:27.55 | simonrvn | hehe, Guerin |
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| 05:28.54 | simonrvn | hello Phated :) |
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| 05:29.17 | Guerin | i suppose I *could* make player decopde to wave and pipe the wave output to play |
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| 05:29.28 | Guerin | but honestly that's a bit silly |
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| 05:29.57 | Guerin | i just want a curses playlist which will play *any* format without me having to write a separate config line for each - essentially, I want a curses playlist for mplayer |
| 05:30.18 | Guerin | and there is one, called mplay, but it's not maintained and requires about a hundred nonstandard perl modules |
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| 05:30.27 | simonrvn | why not just use moc or something? |
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| 05:30.44 | thirst | hey guys |
| 05:30.52 | Guerin | does it play *everything*? |
| 05:31.22 | simonrvn | afaik |
| 05:31.28 | simonrvn | oh, no |
| 05:31.40 | Guerin | istr it being ogg/mp3/flac |
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| 05:31.45 | thirst | i have an issue with evolution on debian. it eats away new_line character in messages that I quote when I forward or reply a mail that I got from MSOutlook. Is this a bug with evolution or is it some gtk stuff. this ends up showing my entire quoted message in one line. using v2.6.3 |
| 05:31.52 | thirst | any evolution guys around. :-) |
| 05:31.53 | Guerin | which, tbf, are the only sane formats, but nevertheless |
| 05:32.12 | Guerin | thirst: #evolution irc.gnome.org |
| 05:32.26 | SubStack | Guerin: ffplay |
| 05:32.39 | SubStack | then plop some ncurses on top of that |
| 05:32.54 | Guerin | SubStack: if I could be arsed writing some ncurses ... |
| 05:33.04 | Guerin | SubStack: but i may be able to make it work with cplay. |
| 05:33.39 | lunitik | Guerin: moc can use ffmpeg apparently... so chances are it'll do what you want |
| 05:33.41 | Guerin | *sigh* not in debian |
| 05:33.48 | Guerin | lunitik: hm, ok. |
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| 05:34.30 | thirst | Guerin: i tried.. noone's answering.. :) |
| 05:34.42 | lunitik | Guerin: ffplay is in the ffmpeg package also.... |
| 05:34.43 | Guerin | thirst: that's usually the way on that server. |
| 05:34.52 | lunitik | (if thats what you were saying wasn't in Debian) |
| 05:35.01 | thirst | Guerin: .. :) anyway .. i wil hang around to see if anyone comes online. |
| 05:35.43 | jnguy | weird |
| 05:35.47 | jnguy | my alt drag died. |
| 05:35.49 | Guerin | thirst: better off trying a mailing list, or just filing a bug against the debian package |
| 05:35.52 | jnguy | is that a window manager setting? |
| 05:36.04 | Guerin | jnguy: yes |
| 05:36.11 | luge | thirst MSOutlook eol is crlf - linux is just cr |
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| 05:39.54 | Guerin | luge: every other mua can do it |
| 05:40.32 | peterS | luge: linux is actually just lf. but truth be told, I believe RFC 822 specifies that you use CRLF anyway, so your MUA should translate between the two. |
| 05:41.10 | chemaja | CRLF is the canonical terminator; LF needs to also be supported. |
| 05:41.30 | peterS | chemaja: why should LF be supported if RFC 822 specifies CRLF? |
| 05:41.43 | nevyn | LF is not supported. |
| 05:41.49 | chemaja | peterS: ask the mail gods... |
| 05:42.03 | peterS | chemaja: I'm asking you because you are the one who made the statement |
| 05:42.09 | chemaja | nevyn: perhaps i misread it. |
| 05:42.11 | chemaja | peterS: ^^ |
| 05:43.28 | Guerin | lunitik: ffplay doesn't play them evil wma files and such |
| 05:43.45 | lunitik | Guerin: true... |
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| 05:44.25 | beardy | WHy did the original questioner think it was a bug in evolution, and not in outlook? |
| 05:45.05 | lunitik | market/mind share |
| 05:45.24 | nevyn | chemaja: lines MUST be terminated with CRLF |
| 05:45.30 | nevyn | it's in 822 |
| 05:46.01 | peterS | nevyn: well, double-check with RFC 2822, which is the modern RFC 822 (: |
| 05:46.17 | nevyn | yeah ook |
| 05:46.33 | peterS | I doubt that particular requirement changed, but I haven't checked |
| 05:46.57 | nevyn | I love.. konqueror |
| 05:47.02 | nevyn | rfc:/2822 |
| 05:47.32 | luge | nevyn - ever try dillo ? |
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| 05:47.47 | beardy | Guess what I read that as at first.. |
| 05:47.50 | Guerin | dillo is a waste of time for 99% of applications |
| 05:47.58 | Guerin | i mean |
| 05:48.05 | ToHellWithGA | i'd like to split my apt sources.list file. can sources.list refer to other text files? |
| 05:48.09 | Guerin | if you want to read manpages on the web, you could just use lynx |
| 05:48.22 | peterS | yeah, it's right between links2 -g for light weight graphics browser and galeon for real gecko goodness |
| 05:48.23 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: why would you do that? |
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| 05:48.51 | ToHellWithGA | Guerin: so i can edit changing 3rd-party stuff independently |
| 05:48.57 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.59 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.05 | peterS | ToHellWithGA: you have something against general aviation? |
| 05:49.15 | ToHellWithGA | peterS: come again? |
| 05:49.19 | lunitik | luge: Guerin: I think you miss the point... rfc:/# would go to that spec on IETF ... saving time... yay |
| 05:49.24 | peterS | ToHellWithGA: GA == general aviation - private pilots in small planes |
| 05:49.31 | ToHellWithGA | oh no. UGA |
| 05:49.40 | ToHellWithGA | check wikipedia on Georgia Tech |
| 05:49.44 | peterS | and UGA is, I think, the sound a caveman makes |
| 05:49.45 | peterS | ? |
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| 05:49.58 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: what prevents you doing that in a single file? |
| 05:50.01 | beardy | Hmm? You both confuse me.. |
| 05:50.03 | ToHellWithGA | peterS: quite right. also a college which cavemen attend |
| 05:50.04 | gahan- | how do i check rmd160 of a file? |
| 05:50.13 | ToHellWithGA | Guerin: the ability to change ubuntu distros using sed |
| 05:50.20 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: what prevents you doing that in a single file? |
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| 05:50.31 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: and see #ubuntu |
| 05:50.32 | peterS | gahan-: 'openssl rmd160 {filename}' |
| 05:50.33 | beardy | And why ask ubuntu questions here? |
| 05:50.39 | ToHellWithGA | Guerin: it's an apt question |
| 05:50.46 | beardy | ToHellWithGA: Don't even try. |
| 05:50.50 | ToHellWithGA | apt is yalls arena |
| 05:50.56 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: ubuntu apt is maintained by ubuntu |
| 05:50.56 | peterS | gahan-: people don't use RIPE-MD160 very much, so I'm curious why you needed it |
| 05:50.56 | ToHellWithGA | ok then |
| 05:50.59 | gahan- | peterS: thanks |
| 05:51.03 | lunitik | nevyn: fwiw though, it'd be rfc:# ... not rfc:/# |
| 05:51.11 | ToHellWithGA | i figured it was derived from something of yours so that's why i came here |
| 05:51.20 | Guerin | bah, stupid cpan |
| 05:51.21 | beardy | ... |
| 05:51.37 | Guerin | ToHellWithGA: in all likelihood it's the same., but we have no way to be sure |
| 05:52.08 | luge | lunitik (you the op with the evolution crlf problem?) run file email.txt to see what eol is there |
| 05:52.23 | ToHellWithGA | ok. thanks for not getting too annoyed that i was out of place. peace |
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| 05:52.26 | lunitik | luge: no, that wasn't me |
| 05:53.17 | luge | sorry lunitik - thirst (you the op with the evolution crlf problem?) run file email.txt to see what eol is there |
| 05:53.19 | SkareCrow | is it possible to disable the keyboard at all? |
| 05:53.42 | Guerin | SkareCrow: unplug it? |
| 05:53.48 | SkareCrow | lol, i mean in java |
| 05:53.49 | chemaja | nevyn: i guess i was wrong... sorry chan. |
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| 05:53.57 | Guerin | !htfswk SkareCrow |
| 05:53.57 | dpkg | SkareCrow: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 05:54.01 | blondie | hello lovers |
| 05:54.11 | SkareCrow | what do you mean? |
| 05:54.18 | SkareCrow | o shit |
| 05:54.20 | Guerin | SkareCrow: is this #java? |
| 05:54.21 | SkareCrow | wrong channel :) |
| 05:54.26 | Guerin | indeed. |
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| 05:54.26 | SkareCrow | lol |
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| 05:55.01 | Lamperi | lol |
| 05:55.13 | Guerin | rrr, stupid cpan |
| 05:55.18 | Guerin | 404 on my arse |
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| 05:57.05 | ToHellWithGA | if anybody asks the same question as i had (and assuming your apt has the same features) there is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for holding plain text files of the extension ".list". yall have a good night. |
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| 05:58.12 | Guerin | nice |
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| 06:01.08 | Guerin | ffs,. and purging dh-make-perl doesn't clear the config |
| 06:01.13 | Guerin | fucking hell, why is this so broken |
| 06:01.30 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: because it has nothing to do with dh-make-perl and everything to do with cpan. |
| 06:01.38 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: delete your ~/.cpan directory |
| 06:01.41 | Guerin | ah. |
| 06:02.12 | Guerin | the main thing is that it can't get the files it needs, though |
| 06:02.12 | dondelelcaro | (dh-make-perl just goes "hey cpan, gimme packages") |
| 06:02.23 | Guerin | when the do exist and I can download them manually with wget |
| 06:02.23 | dondelelcaro | right, that's probably because you need to pick a different cpan mirror |
| 06:02.38 | Guerin | no, i think it's some client problem |
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| 06:02.48 | Guerin | since I *can* download the files in the urls specified |
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| 06:03.45 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: well, you can try editing .cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm; but it should be ok |
| 06:04.24 | Guerin | hm, that stuff is all in /etc |
| 06:04.46 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: alternatively, you can just ignore it, download the tarball from search.cpan.org; untar it, and run dh-make-perl inside of it |
| 06:05.07 | Guerin | am I safe to remove /etc/perl/CPAN/ |
| 06:05.16 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: yeah, it's empty here. |
| 06:05.18 | Guerin | contents of |
| 06:05.25 | dondelelcaro | worst case it'll harass you next time you run it |
| 06:08.06 | tarzeau | Kobaz: not afterstep, gnustep ;) |
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| 06:23.27 | Markjn | hello everyone |
| 06:23.38 | Hoxzer | Hello |
| 06:24.01 | Markjn | hey hi dude |
| 06:24.02 | Hoxzer | I was so laate that I skipped first lesson :/ |
| 06:24.06 | Markjn | whats up in here |
| 06:24.14 | Markjn | whats going on in here |
| 06:24.16 | Hoxzer | sucks ... I hate waking up for school |
| 06:24.50 | Markjn | hey dude whats ur age |
| 06:25.10 | Hoxzer | 18 |
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| 06:30.19 | luge | a/s/d age sex distro ??? |
| 06:30.27 | Hoxzer | :D |
| 06:30.52 | Markjn | hello |
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| 06:39.04 | Guerin | grr, there is so a perl module on cpan called Video::Info |
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| 06:43.03 | liable | hrm, one laptop will saturate my connection when i upgrade and kill the radio streamm on my server, the other laptop doesnt, why is this so i wonder |
| 06:43.34 | sep | liable, both use same mirror ? and is connected to the same switch ? |
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| 06:43.52 | sep | and upgrades the same packages ? |
| 06:45.01 | liable | sep: same AP, same mirrors, one upgrades at 165kB/s the other 147kB/s the first causes the mplayer stream to EOF |
| 06:45.36 | liable | sep: but when the stream isnt playing the second will upgrade at the full speed |
| 06:46.50 | sep | liable, how strange. perhaps one of the wierless chipsets playes nicer the the other ? is it same wifi cards also ? |
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| 06:47.12 | luge | antenna problem |
| 06:47.32 | liable | sep: yeah, its weird. ones an atheros (the nice one) the other is an ipw3945 (the one thatcauses the EOF) |
| 06:47.49 | sep | liable, are they integrated or can you try swapping them around ? |
| 06:47.55 | SubStack | or more likely, it has been possessed by evil spirits |
| 06:48.07 | liable | sep: nah, cant swap em |
| 06:48.23 | SubStack | evil spirits wreak havoc on the 802.11 spectrum |
| 06:48.43 | nevyn | lunitik: rfc:/# works |
| 06:48.44 | sep | liable, both use same mirrors but do both use same protocol ? and have you tried swapping ? http vs ftp |
| 06:49.02 | liable | sep: hrm, will try that |
| 06:50.16 | ice_1963 | hello i have a pdf file need to open...i jest installed Gnome what can i use i'm useing etch ? |
| 06:50.38 | luge | xpdf |
| 06:51.00 | liable | xpdf or if you want a reader thats larger than the kernel, acroread |
| 06:51.21 | ice_1963 | okay is that like gpdf? |
| 06:51.34 | liable | apt-cache search pdf |
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| 06:52.10 | ice_1963 | i did that and gpdf is not there |
| 06:52.25 | Guerin | liable: let's get simple. is one a dell? |
| 06:52.43 | liable | heh, no, both stinkpads |
| 06:52.49 | Guerin | ice_1963: aptitude install evince |
| 06:52.57 | Guerin | ice_1963: yes, I know, the name makes me ewince too |
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| 06:53.41 | ice_1963 | Guerin, yes i use aptitude |
| 06:54.04 | merlincorey | Guerin! |
| 06:54.16 | merlincorey | Guerin *bong hungs* |
| 06:54.25 | merlincorey | ahoy ahoy #debian folks |
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| 06:55.43 | Varange | hi all. Is there anyway for me to install an RPM? Specifically, I'm trying to install OpenOffice. |
| 06:55.57 | sep | Varange, why not use the debian packages ? |
| 06:56.09 | merlincorey | vaq, openoffice has a debian package, but you can use alien to install rpms |
| 06:56.18 | sep | Varange, you can convert rpm to deb's using alien (its better to use the debian packages) |
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| 06:56.43 | sep | Varange, you can also install the rpm tool and use that, if your dead set on wreacking your system |
| 06:56.49 | sep | hint: there are debian packages |
| 06:56.53 | Guerin | merlincorey: pyow pyow |
| 06:56.56 | Varange | sep, I can't download again... out of bandwisth |
| 06:57.08 | Varange | thanks |
| 06:57.16 | luge | bandwish freudian |
| 06:57.20 | Guerin | Varange: for the love of GOD install it in /opt |
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| 06:57.28 | sep | Varange, well if you install the rpm's guesses is youll have to dl _everything_ again since youll mess up your ssytem beyond your ability to fix it |
| 06:57.29 | merlincorey | Guerin, how's the going, mang? |
| 06:57.33 | liable | sep: interestingly, when i upgrade them both at the same time, the ipw one also makes the other card drop to 3kB/s |
| 06:57.44 | Guerin | merlincorey: today I did my final exam |
| 06:57.47 | liable | well, it varies a bit |
| 06:57.55 | sep | liable, sounds like the ipw is playing roughf :) |
| 06:57.56 | merlincorey | Guerin, WOOT! |
| 06:58.05 | Guerin | merlincorey: summer skool is a couple weeks away, I just meved to a house 2 minutes from the beach |
| 06:58.06 | liable | but the ipw one certainly seems to be aggresive |
| 06:58.10 | liable | sep: yeah :) |
| 06:58.11 | Guerin | life is rosy |
| 06:58.18 | sep | liable, idealy for wardriving :) |
| 06:58.26 | liable | heh :) |
| 06:58.30 | sep | liable, conenct to all your neibours |
| 06:58.36 | merlincorey | Guerin, a wonderful location. Back in the deep south, I take it? |
| 06:58.52 | pelzi_ | ipw has some weirdness |
| 06:58.57 | liable | sep: i am the only person in the immediate area |
| 06:59.11 | liable | its not weird, it just sucks ass :) |
| 06:59.18 | Guerin | merlincorey: not that deep, southernmost habitable part of the north island, the beautiful south coast |
| 06:59.46 | Varange | Guerin, in NZ? |
| 06:59.52 | Guerin | http://images.google.co.nz/images?q=wellington%20south%20coast |
| 06:59.57 | Guerin | Varange: sure enough |
| 07:00.13 | Varange | Guerin, I'm in the middle of the city right now, Willis street. You? |
| 07:00.34 | Guerin | Varange: Owhiro bay, robertson street |
| 07:00.42 | merlincorey | Guerin, beautiful as all hell, mate :) Can't wait to visit the beach around your parts, looks like good times |
| 07:00.45 | Guerin | small verse |
| 07:00.53 | Varange | Guerin, it's a small world. I live in Whitby |
| 07:01.09 | Guerin | Varange: you have better fishing out your way than here |
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| 07:01.19 | Varange | do you play brdge by any chance? |
| 07:01.22 | luge | they were banned to whitby and now glad to have been |
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| 07:01.24 | Guerin | but that's offset by the fact I can walk to the beach in two minutes |
| 07:01.28 | Varange | haha |
| 07:01.54 | Guerin | Varange: nah, I play a lot of 500 and bid whist, but only the occasional game of bridge |
| 07:02.08 | Guerin | Varange: and i'm a bit of a lone ranger, not a good partner |
| 07:02.20 | Varange | ahhh. Now THAT would have been too much of a coincidence :)) |
| 07:02.43 | Malawar | herm |
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| 07:02.48 | Varange | anyway, I'm going home. |
| 07:02.56 | Malawar | i can't seem to do widescreen in xorg |
| 07:02.58 | Varange | btw, is there a Linux User Group here in Wgtn? |
| 07:03.08 | xjkx | my friend on university told me to install tomcat, we are learning java, i installed, how do i open/run it/use it? |
| 07:03.10 | merlincorey | I can't seem to do my wireless card in linux |
| 07:03.14 | Malawar | i wanna do 1280x720, but it says "no mode of this name" :( |
| 07:03.23 | merlincorey | but I am getting ndiswrapper to try and remedy with the windows drivers in tow |
| 07:03.42 | Varange | xjkx, go to http://localhost/manager/html |
| 07:03.45 | Malawar | however, i may have found some useful stuff on google :P |
| 07:03.53 | Guerin | Varange: VUW has one, but I'm not sure if there's a non-university group |
| 07:04.24 | Guerin | xjkx: ask #java |
| 07:04.39 | xjkx | varange it says coudnt connect ;o but its installed |
| 07:05.31 | Varange | xjkx, have you started the daemon? |
| 07:06.06 | Varange | xjkx, I think it uses port 8081 or some such by dafult. Have a look in the conf files (they're XML files) |
| 07:06.42 | Varange | so it'd be http://localhost:8081/manager/html . Substitute your port number |
| 07:06.53 | Guerin | peterS: can you at least confirm that cplay reads players from config file in order, and uses the first appropriate player? |
| 07:07.01 | Varange | anyway, gtg |
| 07:07.01 | xjkx | havent started the daemon, where it is =D -newbie- |
| 07:07.03 | Varange | bye lal |
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| 07:07.16 | peterS | Guerin: I'd have to double-check the source but I'm pretty sure that's what it does. first entry to match the filename wins. |
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| 07:07.32 | Varange | xjkx, login as root and /etc/init.d/tomcat start |
| 07:07.37 | Varange | bye all |
| 07:07.49 | Guerin | peterS: that's cool, so I can put my TimeOffsetPlayer("mplayer -vo null %s", "\.*$") at the end as a catchall |
| 07:07.56 | peterS | right |
| 07:08.11 | Guerin | peterS: the problem with it being that trying to seek forward or back just restarts the track, no matter which offset I specify |
| 07:08.12 | cydork | woo etch got a xorg upgrade :P |
| 07:08.35 | Guerin | cydork: not to 7? |
| 07:08.57 | peterS | Guerin: I'm not _quite_ sure what command-line interface it expects for file seeking, but it does indeed try to restart the player, specifying the offset. mplayer needs to support whatever ogg123 supports in that vein. |
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| 07:09.11 | Guerin | oho, I see |
| 07:09.29 | Guerin | so when it seeks, it just restarts the player with a particular time in mind |
| 07:09.42 | peterS | right. that's why seeking is kind of clunky in cplay |
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| 07:10.00 | cydork | wtf? Pre-Depends: x11-common (>= 7.0.0-0ubuntu3) |
| 07:10.06 | peterS | cydork: what package? |
| 07:10.15 | Guerin | mplayer uses -ss[hh:]mm:ss.cc |
| 07:10.43 | chafe | what is a good frontend for editing the XF86Config? |
| 07:10.51 | liable | cydork: theres a few ubuntu named packages in the repo. |
| 07:10.56 | Guerin | chafe: nano |
| 07:11.01 | merlincorey | ROFL |
| 07:11.02 | peterS | cydork: oh, you mean xserver-xorg. hmmm. |
| 07:11.02 | cydork | liable: why? why? |
| 07:11.05 | chafe | nano |
| 07:11.08 | cydork | peterS: yep |
| 07:11.30 | liable | cydork: well, they actually on occasions contribute something back to debian |
| 07:11.43 | peterS | cydork: well, since x11-common is newer than 7.0.0 in sid, the reference to ubuntu doesn't hurt and perhaps it helps in sharing the packaging work between the two distributions |
| 07:11.51 | liable | not all that often, but.. |
| 07:11.59 | peterS | cydork: gravity _does_ work with daniels of ubuntu on this stuff, or used to |
| 07:12.32 | Guerin | and daniels himself used to be a debian xfree knob |
| 07:12.35 | merlincorey | hmmm |
| 07:12.41 | merlincorey | why don't I have apt-setup? |
| 07:12.43 | liable | knob? |
| 07:12.50 | cydork | peterS: oh ok.. i was getting confused :P |
| 07:12.54 | cydork | merlincorey: etch? |
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| 07:13.00 | liable | merlincorey: removed post sarge |
| 07:13.00 | luge | frontend to a backend editor |
| 07:13.03 | Guerin | liable: as in 'someone who stood out' |
| 07:13.04 | merlincorey | ach so |
| 07:13.10 | merlincorey | anything replace it? |
| 07:13.14 | merlincorey | dpkg-reconfigure apt? |
| 07:13.14 | sep | merlincorey, http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html |
| 07:13.15 | Guerin | (not in the bad way, necessarily) |
| 07:13.23 | liable | merlincorey: yes, vim :) |
| 07:13.29 | cydork | merlincorey: nope, just use editor :P |
| 07:13.30 | peterS | Guerin: ah, there it is. notice the FrameOffsetPlayer "ogg123 -q -v -k %d %s"...? the "-k %d" is seconds of offset into the file |
| 07:13.37 | merlincorey | I need the server listing :/ |
| 07:13.38 | merlincorey | that' |
| 07:13.44 | merlincorey | that's why I wanted apt-setup :P |
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| 07:13.48 | cydork | !tell merlincorey about mirrors |
| 07:13.48 | liable | !tell merlincorey about mirrors |
| 07:13.51 | merlincorey | thanks |
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| 07:13.57 | merlincorey | :p |
| 07:14.05 | ksh` | secret |
| 07:14.08 | Guerin | peterS: oh, so with my mplayer line I could specify a certain number of seconds and it'd be rosy? |
| 07:14.18 | peterS | Guerin: so with mplayer you'd say -ss%d or something, in there |
| 07:14.35 | Guerin | right that's trivially doable |
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| 07:14.52 | peterS | I can't check the mplayer command line as I don't have "that sort of package" installed here (: |
| 07:15.06 | Guerin | peterS: are these documented anywhere other than the code? and why haven't you written a nice key=value config yet!!!?? |
| 07:15.33 | Guerin | peterS: debian's legitimate concerns notwithstanding, nothing else comes close to mplayer, unfortunately. |
| 07:15.38 | peterS | Guerin: ehh - I don't think it's documented. I have done so little actual productive work on cplay since adopting it that I should be ashamed of myself. I really should. |
| 07:15.47 | Guerin | !shame peterS |
| 07:15.55 | Guerin | :( |
| 07:15.58 | merlincorey | !punish peterS |
| 07:16.03 | merlincorey | ouch |
| 07:16.05 | peterS | guerin: I haven't even stuck your anyplay script into the package, though I do still have it here |
| 07:16.09 | merlincorey | that's punishment indeed |
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| 07:17.09 | peterS | hmm, and I should fold the .spx line into ogg123 which has been able to play speex for the past year or two now |
| 07:17.15 | merlincorey | wweeeeelll |
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| 07:17.18 | merlincorey | unfortunately |
| 07:17.20 | merlincorey | I gotta bounce |
| 07:17.30 | merlincorey | talk to you later and thanks for the help, helperfolk |
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| 07:17.31 | merlincorey | later Guerin |
| 07:17.34 | merlincorey | stay safe bro |
| 07:17.40 | liable | cous |
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| 07:18.19 | chafe | lol is it true that you cant really control the speed of the mouse; only the acceleration and the threshopld? |
| 07:18.48 | peterS | chafe: not true. all recent Logitech mice let you tell the mouse to use 400 dpi or 800 dpi mode. newer ones even allow 1200 dpi, 1600 dpi or in a few cases 2000 dpi. |
| 07:18.59 | peterS | chafe: use the 'lomoco' package for this purpose |
| 07:19.00 | chafe | i mean in X |
| 07:19.12 | chafe | i do not have a logitech device |
| 07:19.41 | Guerin | peterS: what's the default seek? a whole second, or number of milliseconds? |
| 07:20.10 | peterS | chafe: what you get in X is 'xset'. acceleration and threshold. I don't think you get anything by any other means. |
| 07:20.24 | chafe | yea |
| 07:20.36 | chafe | i heard it was some horrible issue nobody wants to deal with |
| 07:20.39 | chafe | the speed |
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| 07:21.18 | peterS | Guerin: the optional number at the end of the line is frames per second. if omitted it is 1, i.e., the unit is whole seconds. |
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| 07:21.52 | Guerin | hm |
| 07:21.56 | peterS | Guerin: thus "mpg123 -q -v -k %d %s", "(^http://|\.mp[123]$)", 38.28 indicates that mpg123 wants an offset expressed in 1/38.28 second |
| 07:22.19 | peterS | I'm guessing that's the size of an mpeg layer 3 frame |
| 07:23.21 | Guerin | yeah |
| 07:23.46 | Guerin | that makes a single-backend scheme a bit tricky since different format use different things. |
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| 07:30.16 | odolisk | Hello. Please, when i can find russian spoken channel about debian?? Sorry for my bad English |
| 07:30.56 | cydork | !ru |
| 07:30.57 | dpkg | it has been said that ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 07:31.24 | odolisk | great thanks to all |
| 07:31.49 | liable | that was pretty good english |
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| 07:36.58 | seth1246 | what package installs the command 'ip address' ? |
| 07:37.28 | vulture | um.. that's not really a command.. |
| 07:37.32 | vulture | what're you talking about? |
| 07:38.21 | widrone | Or more to the point, what are you trying to do even? |
| 07:39.10 | seth1246 | I want to be able to type: ip address into the terminal so the terminal will give me my local ip address |
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| 07:40.09 | liable | !tell seth1246 about search |
| 07:40.21 | blondie | seth1246: which IP address? there's no such thing as "my IP address" |
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| 07:40.47 | blondie | seth1246: you could run ifconfig to see the IP addresses you're using. |
| 07:40.59 | liable | iproute |
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| 07:41.14 | smcavoy_ | hello, where can I adjust the permissions for /dev/snd/* /dev/mixer, etc.? I'm running 2.6.18 with sarge |
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| 07:41.35 | Guerin | seth1246: lynx -dump iplookup.flashfxp.com |
| 07:41.39 | liable | smcavoy_: why adjust them? |
| 07:41.45 | Guerin | seth1246: works every time |
| 07:42.25 | smcavoy_ | liable, I'm on a system with user accounts via nis. |
| 07:42.48 | seth1246 | liable: Thank You. iproute was what I was looking for. |
| 07:42.52 | Malagmyr | smcavoy_: I'd suggest adjusting them from the console, with chmod... |
| 07:43.02 | Malagmyr | smcavoy_: given you absolutely have to |
| 07:43.05 | liable | smcavoy_: that means you need to change the perms? |
| 07:43.11 | cydork | smcavoy_: so? what is the problem? |
| 07:43.12 | liable | seth1246: yw |
| 07:43.12 | Guerin | smcavoy_: chmod the devices ... if you use uidev or such it won't stick, though |
| 07:43.15 | smcavoy_ | Malagmyr, that will work until I reboot. |
| 07:43.27 | Guerin | smcavoy_: saner is to just add the right users to 'audio' |
| 07:43.44 | Guerin | smcavoy_: if you use udev or such, configure it |
| 07:43.57 | Guerin | no idea how, i don't even know if I have it installed |
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| 07:44.34 | smcavoy_ | Guerin, adding particular users would be a pain as there are many |
| 07:44.41 | VIm_Enforcer | oy |
| 07:45.04 | cydork | smcavoy_: and chmoding is not pain?? |
| 07:45.11 | Guerin | smcavoy_: for name in $(cat list) do adduser name audio; done |
| 07:45.21 | Guerin | missing a ;, but you get the idea |
| 07:45.44 | smcavoy_ | cydork, when using udev chmod is a non option as the devices and permissions are created at boot time |
| 07:45.46 | liable | nasty |
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| 07:45.57 | Guerin | smcavoy_: so configure udev |
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| 07:46.05 | VIm_Enforcer | Guerin, you could also do; for foo; do ...; done < somefile |
| 07:46.07 | VIm_Enforcer | :))) |
| 07:46.13 | Guerin | VIm_Enforcer: and I missed a $ |
| 07:46.15 | liable | smcavoy_: you should do it the adduser way, but you can set the perms in udev rules |
| 07:46.29 | VIm_Enforcer | Guerin, yea that too |
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| 07:46.36 | VIm_Enforcer | oh, that was a variable? |
| 07:46.38 | VIm_Enforcer | heh :) |
| 07:46.44 | smcavoy_ | working from a list is fine if you don't expect changes.. which is not the case. |
| 07:47.06 | smcavoy_ | Guerin, I was hoping to get "edit this file"... I guess I'll have to do some digging |
| 07:47.24 | Guerin | smcavoy_: all in can say is 'configure udev' |
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| 07:47.46 | cydork | smcavoy_: we already talked about the possiblity of editing udev rules .. |
| 07:48.00 | Guerin | cydork: but he doesn't know *how* and that's the point |
| 07:48.07 | smcavoy_ | cydork, thanks for your input |
| 07:48.40 | liable | theres a quite good page on writing rules in the udev docs |
| 07:48.41 | Jebediah | has anybody else gotten cannot find default font 'fixed' when trying to start X? An update seems to have borked it for me |
| 07:48.51 | tx | is it normal for razor to create a .razor dir in each en every user's homedir i have ? isn't supposed to have a global dir or such , where to log and have the configuration files ? |
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| 07:49.20 | Guerin | !fixed |
| 07:49.20 | dpkg | if you have a problem XFree86 it not finding 'fixed' font, see fonts.alias, or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, or make sure xfonts-base is installed, or purge and reinstall it, or see fontfix, or if you are having trouble with xorg r7, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7, or a bad remix of a good ep |
| 07:49.25 | Guerin | Jebediah: ↑ |
| 07:49.35 | VIm_Enforcer | Jebediah, :( |
| 07:49.40 | VIm_Enforcer | no unicode pls :) |
| 07:49.44 | VIm_Enforcer | hmm |
| 07:49.51 | Jebediah | ahh, thanks guys / gals |
| 07:49.57 | VIm_Enforcer | which reminds me to turn utf-8 on :) |
| 07:50.00 | cydork | Guerin: stop the damn arrows :P |
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| 07:51.02 | emcee | arrows look sweet here |
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| 07:51.09 | liable | why the fuck doesnt the most bloated terminal out there do unicode! |
| 07:51.10 | emcee | keep them up :) |
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| 07:51.30 | emcee | they spent time bloating all the other code and never got around to unicode support |
| 07:51.33 | Guerin | me → → → cydork |
| 07:51.38 | Guerin | bah |
| 07:51.43 | Guerin | me D → → → cydork |
| 07:51.48 | sanmarcos | what does "cached" and "buffer" represent in the free command in Linux? |
| 07:51.48 | Guerin | the D being a bow, like |
| 07:51.49 | liable | they look like little penises |
| 07:51.56 | Guerin | man ascii art is hard when you have only one line |
| 07:52.32 | Guerin | sanmarcos: 'cached' means stuff that's cached, while 'buffered' means stuff that's buffered |
| 07:52.45 | emcee | Guerin 8====D ---- D: cydork |
| 07:52.46 | emcee | :P |
| 07:52.51 | liable | enlightening.. |
| 07:52.53 | sanmarcos | Guerin: I know, what does it mean in english> |
| 07:53.10 | emcee | sanmarcos, believe it or not, cached and buffered are english words |
| 07:53.17 | emcee | in fact, Guerin knows a lot about english |
| 07:53.20 | emcee | and I think he would agree |
| 07:53.21 | vaq | Hi guys, i have a problem. I have a few fields in a mysql table that i need to get written down to an Microsoft Excel file from a php script. |
| 07:53.43 | emcee | vaq, #php but "excel" table format is really simplistic, iirc |
| 07:53.44 | Guerin | sanmarcos: cached is stuff on diusk which is cached because the kernel thinks you're likely to use it; buffered is data being held by programs currently running, for quick access |
| 07:53.56 | vaq | emcee: what do you mean? |
| 07:53.57 | sanmarcos | Guerin: ahh ok, thanks brother |
| 07:53.59 | sep | vaq, why not just export them from mysql with as cvs values ? then import in excel ? |
| 07:54.07 | Guerin | yeah |
| 07:54.10 | Guerin | csv > * |
| 07:54.12 | vaq | sep: can that be done in php? |
| 07:54.28 | sep | vaq, phpmyadmin does it all the time. you can probably look at it's source |
| 07:54.33 | sanmarcos | is memory management standard across UNICES ? |
| 07:54.35 | sep | or just use phpmyadmin directly |
| 07:54.41 | vaq | sep: i need so that peapole can hit a buttom and it gets written down to an excel file. |
| 07:54.45 | widrone | Guerin: Thanks for spelling that out in multiple english works too, maybe it will even stick in my mind one day. |
| 07:54.45 | sanmarcos | as in mac os x's mach kernel memory management is similar to linux ? |
| 07:54.50 | Jebediah | hmmm. Have to purge xfonts-base, but shouldn't dpkg-reconfigure hit the same files? |
| 07:55.11 | Guerin | sanmarcos: ask in #freebsd or somwplace |
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| 07:55.18 | Guerin | sanmarcos: i know nothing about such arts |
| 07:55.25 | emcee | vaq, excel and most every spreadsheet program anywhere is quite capable of reading a csv file, which has very simplistic format |
| 07:55.30 | sep | vaq, just conenct the databare, run your quwery and output the data with , inbetween :) |
| 07:55.50 | Guerin | vaq: this,is,csv |
| 07:55.56 | emcee | and newlines between rows |
| 07:56.04 | emcee | use \r\n for windows targets |
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| 08:01.16 | Jebediah | I did what the page said (purge and reinstall xfonts-base) and still have the same problem... |
| 08:01.30 | Guerin | !xfonts-base |
| 08:01.35 | Guerin | hm |
| 08:01.37 | Guerin | !fixed |
| 08:01.37 | dpkg | if you have a problem XFree86 it not finding 'fixed' font, see fonts.alias, or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, or make sure xfonts-base is installed, or purge and reinstall it, or see fontfix, or if you are having trouble with xorg r7, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7, or a bad remix of a good ep |
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| 08:01.50 | Jebediah | yes, that's what I did. What the wiki said |
| 08:01.51 | Guerin | !fontfix |
| 08:01.52 | dpkg | fontfix is, like, that some people have been having problems with XFree 4.0.x; if you have xfonts-base installed, but it still can't find the "fixed" font, ask me about "install xf4" and make sure /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc is in your font path. ask me about fonts.alias, or don't forget to restart xfs, or ask about fixedfont, or ask about "squares" |
| 08:01.53 | liable | Jebediah: see the wiki page |
| 08:02.09 | Jebediah | ahh, there we go, ty Guerin |
| 08:02.20 | Guerin | try that, and ask dpkg about fixedfont, too |
| 08:02.21 | Jebediah | liable, did and problem persisted. I think I know why though |
| 08:02.27 | Guerin | why this is all in different shit I don't knw |
| 08:02.42 | sanmarcos | oh I need a hug |
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| 08:02.49 | Guerin | !aww |
| 08:02.49 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
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| 08:04.29 | ice_1963 | Guerin, thak you for evince..work's good for pdf |
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| 08:06.42 | Jebediah | !install xf4 |
| 08:06.42 | dpkg | install xf4 is probably apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or <xorg> |
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| 08:07.08 | Jebediah | !fixedfont |
| 08:07.09 | dpkg | methinks fixedfont is If potato->woody, and "ps -A | grep xfs" == true, change /etc/X11/XF86-Config's "FontPath" to use xfs. ie "FontPath unix/:7100", or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz |
| 08:07.24 | liable | !tell Jebediah about selftell |
| 08:07.26 | cydork | sanmarcos: i can give you a beer instead :P |
| 08:07.34 | sanmarcos | i feel a disturbance in the force |
| 08:07.46 | Jebediah | sorry |
| 08:07.53 | sanmarcos | yes,, i am sorry too |
| 08:08.13 | cydork | wtf? that factoid says about potato.. |
| 08:08.29 | Jebediah | ja... I'm sorta confused honestly |
| 08:08.38 | liable | !factinfo fixedfont |
| 08:08.38 | dpkg | fixedfont -- created by za <za@m244-mp1-cvx1c.lee.ntl.com> at Thu Sep 20 17:24:55 2001 (1861 days); last modified at Fri Mar 1 06:06:54 2002 by caphuso!AC142AA7@nat-wohnheime.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de; it has been requested 21 times, last by Jebediah, 1m 30s ago. |
| 08:08.41 | cydork | !factinfo fixedfont |
| 08:08.48 | cydork | !lose me |
| 08:08.49 | dpkg | cydork: You Lose. |
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| 08:08.57 | Guerin | cydork: the principle probably holds; if font paths change and x doesn't know, that can break shit |
| 08:09.21 | Jebediah | so does Xorg still use unix/:7100? |
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| 08:10.25 | cydork | Guerin: about xfs?? |
| 08:11.07 | sanmarcos | Jebediah: yes |
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| 08:11.47 | Jebediah | sanmarcos, aha, that explains what's going on then. For some reason that line is gone... I didn't touch it |
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| 08:12.13 | sanmarcos | Jebediah: X is just... I just dont want to deal with it, else Ill go crazy and finally use the gun |
| 08:12.22 | sanmarcos | xauth is just.. wow |
| 08:12.55 | Jebediah | sanmarcos, I understand. This should not be this hard. Taking font paths out for me is just nutty |
| 08:13.59 | sanmarcos | that is why Apple just laughed at X |
| 08:14.31 | liable | Jebediah: i am not exactly sure what your problem is, but have a read of the x11-common changelog |
| 08:14.45 | Jebediah | liable, got the link? |
| 08:15.03 | Jebediah | and I try to startx, can't find default font fixed |
| 08:15.10 | tralala | Jebediah, /usr/share/doc/x11-common |
| 08:15.13 | liable | Jebediah: /usr/share/doc/x11-common/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 08:15.19 | Jebediah | takk |
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| 08:18.10 | Jebediah | is there anyway to see if fixed is available without starting X? Machine is in another room |
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| 08:19.23 | liable | ls /usr/lib/X11/fonts/ |
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| 08:19.58 | liable | erm |
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| 08:20.50 | Jebediah | liable, don't see any in that whole tree |
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| 08:21.07 | Jebediah | any fixed that is |
| 08:21.58 | liable | Jebediah: me either actually. |
| 08:22.18 | cydork | Jebediah: check /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias |
| 08:23.02 | Jebediah | I get a whole lot of fixed in that file when I grep it |
| 08:23.35 | liable | Jebediah: is that the path you have in xorg.conf? or is it the old X11R6 path? |
| 08:23.56 | Jebediah | which path? |
| 08:24.07 | liable | font path.. |
| 08:24.27 | Jebediah | misc is in there for xorg |
| 08:25.11 | Jebediah | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.32 | Guerin | is that where the font actually is? |
| 08:25.37 | liable | thats the wrong path... |
| 08:26.00 | Jebediah | crumbs... they should be /usr/X11/ something? |
| 08:26.06 | liable | when x11-common is upgraded, it *should* make symlinks from the X11R6 dir |
| 08:26.18 | liable | Jebediah: yes |
| 08:26.40 | liable | or too the dir rather |
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| 08:26.59 | Jebediah | that path only has a fonts.alias and fonts.scale in it... so why in the world is this happening? |
| 08:27.19 | johnnyss | hi is xgl support in etch now? |
| 08:27.21 | liable | just change it and try x |
| 08:27.41 | liable | johnnyss: no, and wont be in etch |
| 08:27.53 | liable | johnnyss: aiglx will be though |
| 08:28.03 | johnnyss | ok |
| 08:28.14 | DGnome | no XGL? |
| 08:28.20 | liable | no |
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| 08:28.54 | johnnyss | ok |
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| 08:31.04 | liable | !tell mac about root |
| 08:31.06 | sanmarcos2 | how does one blacklist modules in udev? |
| 08:31.19 | DGnome | liable: aiglx is supposed to be in xorg 7.1, etch should then allready have aiglx? :) |
| 08:31.22 | cydork | !blacklist |
| 08:31.22 | dpkg | blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 08:31.23 | liable | !tell sanmarcos2 about blacklist |
| 08:31.40 | Jebediah | could somebody paste me the line for misc:unscaled in their /etc/X11/xorg.conf? I want to make sure I have it right |
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| 08:31.54 | liable | cydork: you are starting to freak me out with doing the same factoids at the same time as me.. |
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| 08:32.03 | cydork | liable: ya same here :) |
| 08:32.18 | widrone | !tell mak about root |
| 08:32.19 | liable | DGnome: if 7.1 is in etch now, yeah, i dont keep tabs on etch so much |
| 08:32.22 | smcavoy_ | anyone know if its possible to view/listen to a flash app in firefox while listening to sound via xmms... using alsa... on sarge? |
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| 08:32.36 | aardvarq | [01:35:17] <Samantha[copier]> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 08:32.44 | aardvarq | I got spammed on join. :) |
| 08:32.46 | Guerin | vadreas:~# grep misc /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:32.46 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.46 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.52 | Guerin | that is all I have |
| 08:32.53 | Guerin | sid |
| 08:32.57 | Jebediah | ty Guerin |
| 08:32.57 | cydork | !tell smcavoy_ about dmix |
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| 08:32.59 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:32.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:33.09 | freerly | Hi , Are there some tools can show me the hardware of machine? |
| 08:33.12 | sanmarcos2 | liable: the thing is that I put module cx8800 in there, and it still complains at boot, can it be that a module has a dependency on another module? |
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| 08:33.21 | Guerin | js_: i have others for unscaled, but nothing for misc:unscaled |
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| 08:33.35 | Guerin | freerly: eyeometer is the most reliable |
| 08:33.50 | freerly | Hi , Are there some tools which can show me the hardware of machine including memory,mainboard,keyboard,mouse and so on? |
| 08:33.53 | Guerin | freerly: can be used to show you lots of other things too |
| 08:34.00 | liable | sanmarcos2: is it in /etc/modules ? |
| 08:34.14 | cydork | Ferret: lshw, hwifo can give you some info. |
| 08:34.16 | sanmarcos2 | liable: no |
| 08:34.32 | liable | !ops Samantha[copier] onjoin spambot |
| 08:34.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: liable complains about: Samantha[copier] onjoin spambot |
| 08:34.35 | cydork | freerly: sorry that was for you ^^ |
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| 08:35.10 | freerly | cydork lshw? |
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| 08:35.13 | liable | sanmarcos2: whats the actuall problem and error? |
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| 08:35.31 | cydork | freerly: yep, |
| 08:35.55 | sanmarcos2 | liable: nothing really, just the cx8800 module complaining http://en.pastebin.ca/222420 I tried blacklisting it but it still loads |
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| 08:37.38 | liable | sanmarcos2: dunno, dinnas ready, bbiab |
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| 08:38.24 | liable | bleh, dinnas not ready :( |
| 08:38.46 | freerly | cydork thanks.lshw is a good tools |
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| 08:40.20 | cydork | freerly: there are some other tools too check /msg dpkg whats my hardware? |
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| 08:42.40 | Jebediah | locate fixed.pcf return stuff for any of you? |
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| 08:43.39 | freerly | cydork I can't understand.what's the references between hardware and dpkg msg? |
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| 08:45.21 | cydork | freerly: he knows every thing :P |
| 08:45.36 | cydork | !tell freerly -about whats my hardware? |
| 08:45.57 | freerly | cydork how about the tool hwinfo? |
| 08:46.30 | cydork | freerly: it's good too.. try it |
| 08:46.50 | freerly | cydork is hwinfo better than lshw? |
| 08:47.30 | Guerin | !better |
| 08:47.31 | dpkg | better is probably a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 08:47.41 | cydork | :) |
| 08:48.28 | freerly | ok |
| 08:48.31 | freerly | thanks |
| 08:49.26 | Jebediah | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg51960.html |
| 08:51.34 | liable | Jebediah: yes, thats all mentioned in the changelog for x11-common |
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| 08:52.07 | liable | actually, i cant believe that bug is so new.. hrm |
| 08:52.42 | Jebediah | I didn't see it when I looked |
| 08:53.14 | Jebediah | must've been focused on french fries ;) |
| 08:53.49 | cydork | !dbugs #393154 |
| 08:53.52 | dpkg | #393154:M[xfonts-base] xfonts-base: possible incorrect font paths?; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:48:15 UTC |
| 08:54.12 | cydork | oh that's new all right. |
| 08:54.53 | Guerin | give over, it's 10 days old |
| 08:55.01 | liable | Jebediah: have you tried changing the font path yet or not? |
| 08:55.17 | liable | its in unclassified too.. |
| 08:55.35 | Jebediah | liable, yes, I just need to goto the machine to try X, but I'm ssh'd into it and still getting the same goofy substitute font after restarting xfs |
| 08:56.25 | liable | Jebediah: i thought your problem was that x doesnt start? |
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| 08:57.33 | Jebediah | X doesn't start because it says it can't find the default font fixed |
| 08:58.45 | cjari | can some one help to solve why doesnt the x start? |
| 08:59.10 | Jebediah | cjari, is there anything in the log for X? |
| 08:59.23 | cjari | Jebediah a lot... |
| 08:59.26 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 08:59.27 | dpkg | [qotd113] greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
| 08:59.31 | dondelelcaro | Jebediah: you need xfonts-base |
| 08:59.49 | Jebediah | cjari, well what's the question? X fails to start for a lot of reason |
| 09:00.04 | Jebediah | dondelelcaro, got it and it's been reinstalled even |
| 09:00.14 | Guerin | cjari: grep EE /var/log/something.log |
| 09:00.25 | dondelelcaro | Jebediah: then if you're not seeing fixed, then you don't have the right paths in your xorg.conf where the fixed font is. |
| 09:00.37 | dondelelcaro | Jebediah: dpkg -L xfonts-base; and make sure those paths are listed. |
| 09:00.38 | Guerin | been down this path |
| 09:00.43 | liable | bash: error, no something.log |
| 09:00.47 | Guerin | Jebediah: have youn actually checked where the font is? |
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| 09:00.58 | cjari | thanks I know where the log is but how do I copy its contents over ssh to my windows machine so that I can copy / paste it? |
| 09:01.01 | liable | he hasnt even tried to restart x... |
| 09:01.47 | Guerin | liable: wtf |
| 09:02.01 | Guerin | !consolecopy |
| 09:02.10 | Guerin | !copy console |
| 09:02.25 | Jebediah | ok, i'll try restarting X right now |
| 09:02.26 | Guerin | bah, where's karsten the only time you need him |
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| 09:02.50 | cjari | wait I have book that shows how to do that... |
| 09:03.00 | Guerin | cjari: use gpm or screen |
| 09:03.26 | liable | Guerin: wtf do you mean by wtf? |
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| 09:04.27 | cjari | Guaerin those commands dont exist =/ |
| 09:04.33 | cjari | how about wget? |
| 09:04.43 | Jebediah | I had fonts/share ... I swear I'm not dyslexic either! |
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| 09:08.13 | Jebediah | thanks for the assistance :) Time for me to burn a DVD now |
| 09:08.23 | Jebediah | and get more than 1 Gb of free space! |
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| 09:10.27 | bb7 | i have question to debian amd64 sources, are there no testing sources available? |
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| 09:11.58 | jindal | hullo all :) |
| 09:12.55 | cjari | hi |
| 09:13.03 | bb7 | i have question to debian amd64 sources, are there no testing sources available? |
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| 09:14.40 | jindal | bb7, do yav have deb-src included in ur sources.list? |
| 09:14.51 | bb7 | yes |
| 09:15.24 | jindal | so, apt-get source <pack> aint working? |
| 09:15.57 | bb7 | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian-pure64 stable main contrib non-free #debian |
| 09:15.57 | bb7 | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian-pure64 stable main #debian-source |
| 09:15.57 | bb7 | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free #security |
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| 09:16.20 | jindal | !pastebin |
| 09:16.20 | dpkg | i guess pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or if you want to upload an entire file, you can use http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 09:16.25 | bb7 | currently we are using the config above, but we want to chane to testing and start a dist upgrade |
| 09:16.48 | bb7 | ok sorry |
| 09:17.08 | jindal | bb7, okey ye need to include testing sources wait |
| 09:17.45 | bb7 | if i look at the sources, the no testing testin dir or link |
| 09:18.17 | jindal | bb7, check http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html |
| 09:18.48 | bb7 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4227 |
| 09:18.50 | bb7 | ;) |
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| 09:20.01 | bb7 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4228 |
| 09:20.16 | bb7 | i get these errors if I replace stable with testing http://channels.debian.net/paste/4228 |
| 09:20.28 | jindal | oks |
| 09:21.13 | bb7 | do i have to use the amd64 soures or not? |
| 09:21.15 | jindal | bb7, did ye try apt-get update as suggested |
| 09:21.40 | bb7 | yes |
| 09:21.42 | jindal | bb7, if source code aint ur need .... ye need not |
| 09:22.27 | bb7 | ok, but the erros arent from "source" locations |
| 09:22.57 | jindal | yep :) |
| 09:23.43 | jindal | bb7, change ur source.list to http://pastebin.ca/222467 omit deb-src as ya wish |
| 09:23.59 | jindal | and run apt-get update |
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| 09:25.42 | Guerin | !ur |
| 09:25.43 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
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| 09:26.18 | jindal | thanks Guerin ;) |
| 09:26.19 | Guerin | ur welcome |
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| 09:28.00 | bb7 | he does not find the stable source, only the testing source, for security it is ok |
| 09:28.04 | bb7 | strange.. |
| 09:28.21 | jindal | bb7, try another mirror :P |
| 09:28.57 | bb7 | do i need the stable things? |
| 09:29.27 | jindal | bb7, most probably not but am not sure |
| 09:29.34 | bb7 | i really need a good solution.. i'm going to update 5 customers server if i have a solution |
| 09:29.55 | jindal | to forum, do one needs stable sources if one is running testing ? |
| 09:30.04 | cydork | bb7: not if you are dist-upgrading.. |
| 09:30.18 | cydork | jindal: nope. |
| 09:30.33 | bb7 | ah ok |
| 09:30.39 | bb7 | and what about amd64? |
| 09:30.52 | bb7 | are these things amd64 compatible?;) |
| 09:30.57 | jindal | thnks, cydork ye helped me again :) |
| 09:31.09 | bb7 | compatible but not optimzed for amd64? |
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| 09:31.55 | jindal | amd64 packages are compiled and optimised for amd64 ;) |
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| 09:32.14 | bb7 | ok but what the difference to the amd64 source |
| 09:32.24 | freerly | Are there some multiple downloading tools in linux? |
| 09:32.25 | bb7 | the old apt-sources that i used before |
| 09:32.30 | rbellamy | whenever I start screen up, it resets my terminal width to 80 columns - what could be causing that? |
| 09:32.48 | jindal | bb7, comparing for a simple package ;) |
| 09:33.00 | jindal | bb7, compare yourself ;) |
| 09:33.13 | jindal | freely, ya there are |
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| 09:33.25 | bb7 | jindal, what does that mean?;) |
| 09:33.27 | cydork | freerly: explain? |
| 09:33.31 | freerly | jindal wget is too slow |
| 09:33.49 | bb7 | i couldn't find information on the internet which explains the difference |
| 09:34.08 | cydork | freerly: try lftp with pget or try axel it's not as good as wget but it can do parallel downloads. |
| 09:34.21 | jindal | bb7, myself dont hav 64 arch.. so cant comment |
| 09:34.35 | bb7 | ah ok, thank you |
| 09:35.25 | freerly | cydork ok |
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| 09:38.39 | bb7 | is the another debian expert channel? |
| 09:39.23 | Guerin | no |
| 09:39.27 | cydork | bb7: what's wrong with this? :P |
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| 09:39.51 | mazzanet | herro |
| 09:40.17 | freerly | cydork So I　can use axel to instead of wget |
| 09:40.37 | mazzanet | okay so i want to get debian |
| 09:40.48 | mazzanet | there's no dvd drive in the box concerned |
| 09:40.51 | cydork | freerly: yes |
| 09:40.52 | mazzanet | do i really need all 15 cds? |
| 09:40.52 | jindal | freely, downloader for x (d4x) is a gud gui based download manager |
| 09:41.02 | jindal | mazzanet, no |
| 09:41.13 | tralala | mazzanet, no you need only cd1 or even the netinst cd |
| 09:41.14 | freerly | jindal I just need cli |
| 09:41.20 | freerly | I don't need gui |
| 09:41.25 | freerly | I have used d4x |
| 09:41.28 | freerly | I don't like it |
| 09:41.40 | tralala | assuming you'll install on a box with internet access |
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| 09:42.22 | bb7 | cydork, i just wanted to try another channel to get an answer;) |
| 09:42.33 | bb7 | but it's nice here |
| 09:42.39 | mazzanet | well it does |
| 09:42.42 | tralala | bb7, try irc.debian.org |
| 09:42.57 | jindal | bb7, http://www.debian.org/support#irc |
| 09:42.59 | mazzanet | but i would prefer a cd/iso version of at least 'base' packages |
| 09:43.00 | cydork | bb7: ask your question again.. |
| 09:43.09 | tralala | mazzanet, take your chances with netinst then |
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| 09:43.24 | tralala | oh, in this case go for cd1 |
| 09:43.44 | liable | netinst has base |
| 09:43.55 | tralala | but it doesn't have 'base' |
| 09:44.09 | liable | huh? |
| 09:44.13 | bb7 | is the another debian expert channel? ( |
| 09:44.25 | liable | bb7: try on oftc |
| 09:44.26 | tralala | I bet he isn't asking about debian's base |
| 09:44.39 | mazzanet | i mean like a base os |
| 09:44.50 | cydork | bb7: i man the actuall question.. |
| 09:44.51 | liable | netinst gives you base |
| 09:45.06 | cydork | s/man/mean/ |
| 09:45.07 | liable | if you dont have net |
| 09:45.19 | tralala | mazzanet, base os as defined by debian is really minimalistic |
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| 09:46.04 | bb7 | what's the difference between the debian-amd64 apt source and the normal debian sources which include amd64 architecture |
| 09:46.17 | tralala | if you want X for example you want cd1 |
| 09:46.20 | liable | bb7: try #debian-amd64 |
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| 09:46.47 | bb7 | thank you |
| 09:46.49 | mazzanet | tralala: my definition of base is what fits on cd1 of slackware :P |
| 09:46.58 | cydork | bb7: it was not offical then, but it is now .. so no more debian-amd64 |
| 09:47.04 | tralala | liable, see? |
| 09:47.10 | mazzanet | because that's what i'm currently using |
| 09:47.13 | bb7 | ah ok i see |
| 09:47.15 | liable | !beat tralala |
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| 09:47.31 | tralala | !botspank |
| 09:47.31 | dpkg | oi, stop that |
| 09:47.34 | liable | tralala: you cant say i was wrong though |
| 09:47.59 | tralala | liable, you were wrong (I said it) |
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| 09:48.05 | mazzanet | i've been using slack since the 7.x days, but keeping up with updates can be a pain |
| 09:48.06 | bb7 | so debian-amd64 links to the standard sources |
| 09:48.23 | freerly | cydork I can't find axel is more quickly than wget |
| 09:49.23 | tralala | mazzanet, go for cd1 but I'd be surprised if it is close enough to slacks cd1 |
| 09:49.38 | mazzanet | not to mention i don't need X11 |
| 09:49.43 | cydork | freerly: you can configure it to use more parallel connections.. |
| 09:50.15 | cjari | is there a simple way to get the contents of a file (log) from linux machine to windows? |
| 09:50.17 | liable | hah |
| 09:50.20 | liable | tralala: see? |
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| 09:50.31 | cydork | hehe |
| 09:50.36 | k-man | whats the debian way to set up a network printer? |
| 09:50.40 | tralala | heh :) |
| 09:50.44 | k-man | so all apps will print using it? |
| 09:50.44 | tralala | liable, okay you win |
| 09:50.47 | freerly | cydork Can it support breakpoint |
| 09:50.53 | freerly | cydork Can axel support breakpoint |
| 09:51.04 | Guerin | wtf |
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| 09:51.05 | tralala | !praise liable |
| 09:51.35 | Guerin | k-man: install cups on server; configure and publish printer; install cups on clients |
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| 09:52.17 | k-man | Guerin, its a network laserjet (it has an ethernet port in it) |
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| 09:52.49 | Guerin | k-man: then set up cups on clients to send output to that ip address |
| 09:53.01 | Guerin | k-man: there's a howto on linuxprintoing.org |
| 09:53.04 | k-man | ok, thanks |
| 09:53.50 | liable | not to hard if your just setting up the clients |
| 09:54.25 | mazzanet | is there a list of what's on each cd? |
| 09:54.28 | freerly | cydork Maybe prozilla will be better |
| 09:54.57 | liable | !cd contents |
| 09:54.57 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the cds: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search ; If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 09:55.51 | mazzanet | ta |
| 09:56.05 | cydork | freerly: i dont know about prozilla but try lftp it supports it afaik. |
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| 09:57.43 | enouf | cjari: mkdir /mnt/tmp .. then mount the windrive there .. if ntfs see apt-cache show ntfsprogs and /msg dpkg ntfs |
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| 09:58.53 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:58.53 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:04.11 | Innu | Debian default installion includes cd-writing software? |
| 10:04.23 | petemc | not in the base, its easily installed tho |
| 10:04.35 | liable | depends what you call default installation |
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| 10:05.38 | cyzie | hello , i just install debian on my sata disk. but i suspect it didnt mirror between the 2 disks. im using abit nf7-s2 and two 80GB sata disks. anyone can help? |
| 10:05.56 | Innu | hmm.. Dont remember. Choosed desktop envi... and somtething more |
| 10:06.18 | Ronin | Innu: well if it didn't a simple apt-get install command will help |
| 10:06.35 | Innu | i need to put cd writing software to one computer, but there isnt no internet connection |
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| 10:06.45 | Innu | so i need to download packages from home |
| 10:06.46 | Ronin | of course not heh :) |
| 10:06.48 | tosh| | I have linux samba services hooked up to an active directory, one of them is giving me "all pipe instances are busy" when trying to mount a share from a win xp machine. any ideas? |
| 10:06.53 | tralala | Innu, check out apt-zip |
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| 10:09.33 | kdean06 | When editing a control file (dh_make) I'm aware you can use pipes to specify multiple packages ot meet the dependancy, but is it pissible to specify both an & as well as a | in a single entry? I'm packaging something that requires a working php install on Apache, but php4 or 5 work, AND apache and apache2. |
| 10:09.54 | mazzanet | what's the 3 debian-update cds for? |
| 10:10.15 | kdean06 | mazzanet, To upgrade on a system that isn't internet connected. |
| 10:10.36 | mazzanet | ah |
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| 10:10.42 | kdean06 | There not needed if you're online. |
| 10:10.51 | mazzanet | or not upgrading? :P |
| 10:10.52 | ranger | hello |
| 10:11.03 | ranger | iv two different problems |
| 10:11.51 | ranger | 1) i copy a harddisk with dd_rescue with an ntfs partition the target size of the harddisk is smaller, so that now the partition is bigger than the harddisk size, how can i change this? |
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| 10:13.08 | liable | kdean06: have you had a look at the new maintainers guide? |
| 10:13.40 | ranger | i copy a harddrive with defective sectors to a new harddrive with a linux live cd. The source drive is larger than the target drive. |
| 10:14.01 | ranger | The problem is now that the partition on the new drive is bigger than the drive... ? |
| 10:14.18 | Fox | ranger: block size problem ? |
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| 10:14.33 | tralala | ranger, ask ##linux |
| 10:14.34 | ranger | what tool can i use to resize the partition partition manager doesnt work. |
| 10:14.34 | kdean06 | liable, Yes, I have. It gives the basics, like apache | apache2. But it doesn't refer to & at all, and certainly not what I'm trying to do. |
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| 10:14.57 | ranger | how does i know that is a block size problem ? |
| 10:15.08 | Innu | Is there some kind like debian package cd or smth, what includes software like gnomebaker and all its dependencys? |
| 10:15.15 | liable | kdean06: try #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 10:15.23 | kdean06 | Okay, thanks. :) |
| 10:15.43 | pelzi_ | do not dd if disks are not same size |
| 10:15.49 | tralala | ranger, ask ##linux |
| 10:15.50 | pelzi_ | use cp |
| 10:16.23 | liable | ranger: i guess making a partition ans then copying all but the first sector (ie mbr and partition info) |
| 10:16.24 | wols | Innu: why can't you apt-get it? |
| 10:16.40 | Innu | wols, no net connection |
| 10:17.00 | wols | Innu: apt-zip |
| 10:17.32 | wols | Innu: can't you get a net connection? while ap-zip works, direct would be easier |
| 10:18.35 | ranger | mhh but it is the boot partition with windows 2000 |
| 10:18.58 | ranger | is it not possible too change the partition size with a tool ? |
| 10:19.06 | Innu | wols, there is no connection to get. Ill find information about apt-zip |
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| 10:19.47 | tralala | ranger, perhaps you can change it with parted |
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| 10:22.03 | ranger | i have a live cd with gparted |
| 10:22.16 | ranger | but qparted find no partition |
| 10:22.24 | ranger | but windows boot and works ? |
| 10:22.50 | ranger | sry windows 2000 works with the wrong partition size |
| 10:23.35 | navaladi | Hi pls..Yesterday i badly used "rm -rf /mnt/hda7 "..so half the data are gove b4 i giving a ctrl+c..any idea to recover it..pls |
| 10:23.47 | navaladi | In debian 3.1 Linux Box |
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| 10:25.13 | tralala | navaladi, d0n7 u h4v3 ny b4ckupz? |
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| 10:28.11 | Guerin | navaladi: what filesystem? |
| 10:29.43 | navaladi | tralala:dude desktop system.. i don't ve backup... |
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| 10:30.00 | navaladi | Guerin:debian3.1 with ext3 fs |
| 10:30.24 | Guerin | navaladi: ext3 has no undelete functions because it's a journalling system |
| 10:30.36 | sep | navaladi, ibas.com |
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| 10:30.55 | Guerin | navaladi: best case is to restore from backups; failing that, photorec in the testdisk package can recover some files |
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| 10:32.30 | navaladi | Guerin:i don't ve backup for desktop...also photorec is that package? |
| 10:32.45 | Guerin | navaladi: read what I said |
| 10:34.38 | liable | that looks like a handy app, wonder if it works |
| 10:35.37 | tralala | liable, it's really easy to test :) |
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| 10:35.42 | navaladi | Guerin:i ll try thanks. |
| 10:35.42 | navaladi | sep:thanks |
| 10:36.08 | liable | tralala: sure, you delete your / and let me know how it goes :P |
| 10:36.17 | cydork | liable: i tried photorec, it works. But for files i have backups :P |
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| 10:36.50 | liable | cydork: cool, worked well? |
| 10:37.17 | cydork | liable: yep |
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| 10:37.28 | twobitsprite | what do you all use to burn audio cds? |
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| 10:38.30 | liable | i cant even remember the last time i copied an audio cd |
| 10:39.39 | spo0nman | how do i fate a tty? |
| 10:39.39 | spo0nman | how do i fake a tty? |
| 10:39.39 | kdean06 | twobitsprite, k3b, or Banshee's built in CD Burner |
| 10:41.40 | Innu | I want to download debian cd-installion iso. What is different of debian-31r3-i386-binary-1.iso binary-2, binary-3 etc? |
| 10:41.40 | kdean06 | liable, Applying a bit or brain power made that Depends section go a little easier. Apache and php (of matching versions) are depencies of libapache(2)mod-php(4|5) so depending on THAT package is a bit cleaner. |
| 10:42.01 | kdean06 | Innu, The likelyhood you'll install that package. If you're connected ot the internet, I STRONGLY suggest the netinstall image. |
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| 10:42.38 | kdean06 | Innu, CD 1 contains base and commonly used apps, CD 2 contains more apps that are not required to make a system boot and so on. |
| 10:43.11 | prinzenrolle | hello, i update and upgrade my debian etch a few days ago, but now crashes all the time the gnome panel |
| 10:44.05 | liable | kdean06: should be a better way to do it, but yeah, nice |
| 10:44.07 | Tuxico | prinzenrolle, what kind of crashes? |
| 10:44.44 | prinzenrolle | the gnome panel starts but than it crashes all the time i cant use it.... i see the panel but left or right click doesnt work |
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| 10:46.02 | prinzenrolle | i kill the prozess start the gnome-panel new and delete the top panel (i have a top and bottom panel) |
| 10:46.03 | prinzenrolle | than it works |
| 10:46.06 | Innu | kdean06, do you know where could i get information what packages are in these binary isos? |
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| 10:48.05 | cydork | !tell Innu -about cd contents |
| 10:49.14 | kdean06 | Thanks. |
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| 10:51.03 | babsi1983 | hi, if i want to start a script on startup should i use the runlevel 6 (reboot) ? |
| 10:51.23 | cydork | !tell babsi1983 -about startup |
| 10:51.42 | liable | how would that help when you want it to run at boot? |
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| 10:52.12 | babsi1983 | liable, thats my question :) |
| 10:52.36 | babsi1983 | i don't know which runlevel i used for this best |
| 10:52.46 | babsi1983 | singeluser? |
| 10:53.28 | wols | to start a script on startup you want to use runlevel6 (reboot)? |
| 10:54.08 | wols | what do you want to start and when does it need to run exactly (e.g. before network is up or whatever)? |
| 10:54.09 | babsi1983 | wols, makes no sense to me. but wich i shoul use ? |
| 10:54.15 | liable | babsi1983: runlevel 2 is the default debian runlevel |
| 10:54.29 | babsi1983 | wols, i want to start apticron |
| 10:54.33 | wols | if it doesn't make sense, why did you ask it? that doesn't make sense to me either |
| 10:54.56 | babsi1983 | liable, ok i trie |
| 10:55.03 | wols | anywhere in runlevel 2. as late as you want |
| 10:55.17 | babsi1983 | thanks |
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| 11:06.30 | tarzeau | !seen gyrosgeiger |
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| 11:06.50 | liable | it'll be back in 3.. 2 .. 1 |
| 11:07.22 | streuner__ | gyrosgeier, tarzeau, gyrosgeier |
| 11:07.38 | tarzeau | streuner__: yes i've seen him already |
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| 11:13.49 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:13.49 | dpkg | * Guerin/#debian goes to pick his wife up from kindy |
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| 11:19.26 | dererk[w] | G'Morning/Buenos dias gente linda! :) |
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| 11:22.12 | johnnyss | hi agin is aiglx in etch already? |
| 11:22.40 | petemc | ask #ubuntu |
| 11:22.45 | petemc | oh, etch -sorry |
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| 11:22.52 | petemc | i read edgy |
| 11:23.37 | johnnyss | :) |
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| 11:24.36 | cydork | heh |
| 11:24.42 | liable | !info xserver-xorg-core etch |
| 11:24.56 | dpkg | xserver-xorg-core: (X.Org X server -- core server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:1.0.2-9 (etch), Packaged size: 3562 kB, Installed size: 10232 kB |
| 11:26.02 | liable | meh |
| 11:26.37 | liable | !info xserver-xorg etch |
| 11:26.45 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.22 (etch), Packaged size: 158 kB, Installed size: 576 kB |
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| 11:27.24 | liable | appears not.. |
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| 11:30.06 | enouf | Fifty or so other Republican candidates have also been made targets in a sophisticated "Google bombing" campaign intended to game the search engine's ranking algorithms. |
| 11:30.12 | enouf | whoops .. sorry |
| 11:30.25 | Rhizome | hm ;( |
| 11:30.27 | Rhizome | ;) |
| 11:30.46 | cydork | enouf: interesting piece of information :) |
| 11:31.17 | enouf | cydork: more here :-) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/us/politics/26googlebomb.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |
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| 11:32.53 | cydork | enouf: hmm google bombing + gentoo|ubuntu |
| 11:33.09 | cydork | muhahahaha |
| 11:36.13 | enouf | bookmarks the article so I can exploit google's page ranking algo when needed :-) |
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| 11:53.55 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 11:53.55 | dpkg | < justin420> ...got some weird errors when using that dhclient eth0... < nvz> justin420: thats a normal dhcp lease proceedure < Tchiak> it's ok justin.. lots of men have problem problems understanding what' s going on with their DHCP it's only natural. < Tchiak> if you take this packet once a day before engaging in internet activites, you'll provide a satisfaction to both you and your isp. |
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| 11:56.37 | Skiver | hello ! |
| 11:56.37 | Skiver | help |
| 11:57.00 | Ronin | have to tell us the problem first Skiver |
| 11:57.08 | enouf | !qotd69 |
| 11:57.09 | dpkg | <mdadmtime> what does it mean if a raid array has state "dirty"? <asg> mdadmtime: it previously stored pr0n |
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| 11:57.40 | enouf | heh .. apropo for that number ... |
| 11:57.49 | Skiver | my Xorg is using 96% of my CPU power, my system lags like hell at the moment |
| 11:58.23 | enouf | Skiver: why is that? |
| 11:58.40 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'm using sid and cups 1.2.5. I cannot print to my printer connected to an US Robotics router (using http printing). This worked fine before cups 1.2 if I remember correctly. Any idea how I could debug the problem ? |
| 11:59.16 | Skiver | enouf: 3087 root 20 0 209m 161m 7560 R 94.5 15.9 36:47.44 Xorg |
| 11:59.24 | Skiver | this is what TOP shows |
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| 12:00.29 | enouf | lord_rob: strace perhaps? cups.config ? /etc/cups/client.conf |
| 12:00.39 | Skiver | i get a very long delay when Minimize, or Maximize program windows. |
| 12:01.04 | enouf | Skiver: Perhaps it's the DE . not Xorg |
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| 12:01.36 | Skiver | enouf: is there any way to check ? |
| 12:02.36 | lord_rob | enouf: if I try strace, what do you think I should stack trace ? |
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| 12:04.40 | enouf | lord_rob: sorry .. not sure .. I guess the command when you print .. but your's seems like an IP issue?? check the BTS and check the config files as to where it's failing .. |
| 12:05.12 | enouf | Skiver: was it always like this? .. what have you changes recently? |
| 12:05.35 | enouf | changed* |
| 12:06.22 | Skiver | enouf : i'm on unstable and i upgrade frequently, this problem's been obvious since kernel 2.6.17..but still there after using 2.6.18 |
| 12:06.56 | enouf | !cups |
| 12:06.57 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 12:08.10 | enouf | !customer |
| 12:08.11 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 12:08.46 | enouf | what the fuck is with this incessant upgrading ... twerps |
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| 12:11.46 | jetscreamer | yeah... real men run potato |
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| 12:12.20 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 12:12.21 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd167 is <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686. I don't do any image processing, so I think it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel |
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| 12:13.29 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 12:13.29 | cydork | jetscreamer: ahh now that was the real installer :) |
| 12:14.02 | jetscreamer | potato was before my time... i'm a woody |
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| 12:14.26 | Braindead | you got wood? |
| 12:14.45 | tralala | !panic |
| 12:14.45 | dpkg | from memory, panic is STAY CALM DAMMIT! |
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| 12:15.19 | xsquared | hi, im just setting up dhcp for my network and i gave it a range from 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254 and it is working except it's assigning the ips backwards starting from 192.168.0.254. Any ideas of why it is doing this? |
| 12:15.39 | xsquared | im using Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.3 debian package |
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| 12:16.15 | M0ffe | xsquared: dhcpd just behaves so. |
| 12:16.22 | zoghome | silly question, how do I remove an mdX raid device from my system with mdadm? I have some devices I want to free up to re-create new ones |
| 12:16.35 | xsquared | M0ffe, is it always like that? |
| 12:16.46 | xsquared | can you change it to go the opposite direction? :P |
| 12:16.58 | M0ffe | xsquared: In dhcpd3, yes. dhcpd2 started at low addresses |
| 12:17.09 | M0ffe | xsquared: I am not aware how- |
| 12:17.18 | xsquared | oh ok |
| 12:17.37 | xsquared | any particular reason it starts from the high addresses? |
| 12:17.40 | xsquared | do you know? |
| 12:17.52 | snoopy_a1h | hi all. After upgrading my hardware to amd64 on nForce4 I've segmentation fault when run xmms and MPlayer. Anybody knows why the shit happens ? |
| 12:18.13 | M0ffe | xsquared: It didn't bother me enough to look into why it does so. |
| 12:18.35 | xsquared | M0ffe, alright, thank you for the information |
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| 12:19.21 | zoghome | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.23 | zoghome | i guess |
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| 12:36.32 | ma3x | how do i specify in 'find' to search for extension .pdf? |
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| 12:37.34 | tralala | ma3x, with -name |
| 12:37.36 | nusgnaf | ma3x:how about find |grep *.pdf |
| 12:37.41 | tralala | or -iname |
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| 12:38.31 | ma3x | tralala: I don't know the name, I want to find all files with the extension pdf |
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| 12:39.12 | M0ffe | -name \*.pdf |
| 12:39.27 | ma3x | thanks |
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| 12:40.31 | enouf | find ~ -name "*.pdf" will find all pdfs in your home and beneath |
| 12:40.46 | enouf | ma3x: ^^^ |
| 12:40.48 | ma3x | thanks |
| 12:40.59 | enouf | rememeber the quotes |
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| 12:42.07 | kreshnik | what can be problem with my mplayer when i try to look movies in fullscreen i show only 1/4 peace of the screen |
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| 12:42.19 | damosu | LoRez, ping |
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| 12:43.08 | jindal | kreshnik, mebbe ask on #mplayer |
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| 12:43.34 | tralala | kreshnik, add fs=yes to /etc/mplayer.conf |
| 12:44.15 | tralala | make that /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf |
| 12:45.24 | kreshnik | tralala: fs is by defaul there |
| 12:46.45 | tralala | kreshnik, if you're watching 16:9 movie on a 4:3 display there's nothing you can do to make it bigger without spoiling/cutting the image |
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| 12:47.18 | Moorenkopf | i've got several jpegs and would like to create one pdf-file from those. Is there an out-of-the-box tool to do so? |
| 12:47.39 | tralala | Moorenkopf, openoffice |
| 12:47.51 | tralala | and/or kword |
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| 12:48.15 | Moorenkopf | well, there i've got to insert one jpeg after another, haven't I? |
| 12:48.17 | jdt | I have a question - why is a chroot jail insecure? |
| 12:48.26 | tralala | Moorenkopf, yes |
| 12:48.32 | Moorenkopf | uhm |
| 12:48.32 | pelzi_ | it isn't? |
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| 12:49.36 | pelzi_ | for processes running as root chroot isn't secure |
| 12:49.52 | darrh00 | what is dfgs? |
| 12:49.54 | pelzi_ | otherwise it is |
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| 12:50.13 | tralala | !dfgs |
| 12:50.27 | jdt | pelzi_: ahh, cool. so fairly underprivileged user will stay stuck in there |
| 12:50.31 | jdt | thanks |
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| 12:56.03 | kreshnik | tralala, http://d.turboupload.com/d/1131711/screenshot.png.html |
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| 12:57.27 | tralala | this is an ugly popup site |
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| 12:58.48 | Ronin | there are nice popup sites? |
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| 12:59.24 | tralala | I don't know |
| 12:59.34 | kreshnik | http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/4515/2004696239106081227_rs.jpg |
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| 12:59.41 | kreshnik | this tat link dont work |
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| 13:01.05 | Trewas | kreshnik: does running mplayer with options "-vo xv -fs" help? |
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| 13:03.28 | kreshnik | now it work full screen :) but i cannot hear shound :D |
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| 13:12.12 | amphi | kreshnik: can you hear sound in anything? |
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| 13:12.45 | kreshnik | yes :) |
| 13:13.00 | the_mug | what's the command to dump all the packages installed on one machine... and then the command to install that list of packages on another machine? |
| 13:13.30 | pelzi_ | dpkg --get-selections |
| 13:13.52 | kreshnik | amphi, i works now.. |
| 13:13.54 | stew_ | the_mug: /msg dpkg selections |
| 13:14.01 | kreshnik | it |
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| 13:14.08 | cydork | !tell the_mug debian clone |
| 13:14.13 | cydork | !tell the_mug about debian clone |
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| 13:14.32 | the_mug | thanks friends |
| 13:14.37 | jetscreamer | omg it's the_mug |
| 13:14.55 | the_mug | the one and only! :-p |
| 13:14.56 | jetscreamer | we used to call my cousin 'the mug' |
| 13:15.05 | McGee | how do i get all command line arguemnts in a bash script? (like $argv in csh) |
| 13:15.08 | jetscreamer | heh... so not so only :/ |
| 13:15.11 | the_mug | I guess I'm the second cousin then |
| 13:15.48 | jetscreamer | i don't remember how he got the name dammit :/ |
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| 13:16.33 | tralala | McGee, there is #bash for bash stuff. This particular question happens also to be answered in man bash |
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| 13:19.02 | the_mug | jetscreamer: to be honest I don't remember WHY exactly it is my irc handle... though it's been that way for years. :-/ |
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| 13:21.38 | junix|work | could someone help me fix this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/4204 |
| 13:22.20 | LoneWlf | apt-get -f install |
| 13:22.36 | pelzi_ | did you do as it told you |
| 13:22.38 | tralala | junix|work, do you run sarge? |
| 13:27.57 | streuner__ | tralala: /whois junix|work |
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| 13:29.22 | mhterres | hi guys |
| 13:29.34 | mhterres | anybody knows where can I find the business card iso from Etch ???? |
| 13:29.40 | mhterres | I just found the full installer |
| 13:29.42 | streuner | junix6591: show us your sources.list in paster bot, otherwise we can't help |
| 13:29.53 | streuner | mini.iso? |
| 13:29.57 | mhterres | yep |
| 13:30.28 | jetscreamer | what is a .sit as relates to mac's and mixing sound tracks |
| 13:30.38 | jetscreamer | what do i use to mess with it |
| 13:30.43 | streuner | !sit |
| 13:30.49 | streuner | fuck :-) |
| 13:30.54 | cydork | McGee: you want $@ ?? |
| 13:31.20 | Danamania | .sit was the most common archive format on macs until a bit after OSX came out - stuffit expander file |
| 13:31.29 | jetscreamer | ahh. thankee. |
| 13:31.31 | mhterres | I need the new debian installer from etch |
| 13:31.40 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 13:31.40 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc,net, #debian-boot. |
| 13:31.50 | streuner | mhterres: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 13:32.16 | Danamania | jetscreamer: from memory there's a .sit app somewhere in debian, but I don't think it works with the newest of .sit files |
| 13:32.34 | mhterres | thanks :-D |
| 13:32.36 | streuner | mhterres: Look for 'other images' |
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| 13:32.49 | jetscreamer | firefox offered file-roller as an app to open it with... i'm just d/l'ing it though |
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| 13:33.28 | mhterres | I need to put the kernel 2.6.18.1 in the installer |
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| 13:33.46 | LoneWlf | why oh why does a dist-upgrade have to take so long from a base install |
| 13:33.47 | streuner | mhterres: good luck |
| 13:33.49 | LoneWlf | *sighs* |
| 13:33.52 | mhterres | cause our client uses a Asus MB that just have SATA support after the 2.6.18 |
| 13:33.55 | streuner | mhterres: you'll need it |
| 13:33.59 | jetscreamer | file-roller 'didn't like it' |
| 13:34.00 | mhterres | hehehe |
| 13:34.02 | mhterres | thanks |
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| 13:34.27 | streuner | mhterres: according to #debian-boot you need to make some udev in order to do that too... |
| 13:34.27 | mhterres | And I want to do a installer that clone one server to another |
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| 13:34.46 | streuner | s/udev/udebs/ |
| 13:34.52 | aice | from iran |
| 13:34.53 | nachos | Is it just me or is ftp.debian.org the _only_ apt-get mirror that works? |
| 13:34.57 | mhterres | hmmmmm |
| 13:35.13 | nachos | I keep on getting 'could not stat package...' when i try use _any_ other mirrors. |
| 13:35.18 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.27 | streuner | aice: good to know, in this channel are about people from 100 nations... |
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| 13:35.40 | jetscreamer | actually |
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| 13:35.54 | mhterres | I'm from Brazil |
| 13:36.02 | jetscreamer | that 'kinda' sounds like what happened to me yesterday, nachos |
| 13:36.05 | wols | streuner: now see what you started |
| 13:36.10 | nachos | jetscreamer: how did you fix it? |
| 13:36.16 | c-w0lf | Hi! I installed debian on my host from the DVDs, but apt-get uses only those, and i want it to use the internet... what do i need to change ? |
| 13:36.17 | streuner | <--- germany |
| 13:36.22 | kombi | stable + dual core = working? |
| 13:36.32 | wols | c-w0lf: man sources.list |
| 13:36.36 | kombi | streuner: I allways thought that.. |
| 13:36.49 | wols | kombi: yes. it's only SMP |
| 13:36.50 | streuner | kombi: /nick abrotman ;-) |
| 13:36.51 | jetscreamer | i just waited about 5 minutes , watched streuner tell me to use a different source, then tried again |
| 13:36.52 | nachos | the culprit line in sources.list is, "deb http://debian.planetmirror.com/debian/ main stable contrib non-free". |
| 13:36.53 | LoneWlf | c-w0lf : netselect-apt stable |
| 13:36.56 | kombi | wols: great! |
| 13:37.03 | jetscreamer | :P |
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| 13:37.23 | LoneWlf | c-w0lf : after an apt-get install netselect-apt |
| 13:37.40 | mhterres | anybody can suggest me a tool like systemimager but where I can use a CD instead of a server to replicate ? |
| 13:37.55 | jetscreamer | dd? |
| 13:37.56 | mhterres | It's what I'm trying to do :-) |
| 13:38.10 | mhterres | It works with the installer of Sarge |
| 13:38.15 | liable | mhterres: partimage |
| 13:38.17 | mhterres | but I had this problem with this client |
| 13:38.24 | abrotman | kombi: eh ? |
| 13:38.26 | mhterres | Let me explain: |
| 13:38.38 | abrotman | streuner? |
| 13:38.40 | douglas | trying to listen to howard stern streaming from sirius.. firefox says it needs some kind of mplayer plugin for the sound. I already have mplayer, so i apted myself the mozilla-plugin package, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. What's the deal? |
| 13:38.44 | mhterres | I need to create an instalattion CD that the client just need to put in the drive and press ENTER |
| 13:38.47 | c-w0lf | LoneWlf, i dont really have one of the stable distros *g* |
| 13:39.02 | LoneWlf | c-w0lf: netselect-apt testing then |
| 13:39.04 | mhterres | so, all the partitioning, copying and everything else do automagically :-) |
| 13:39.04 | streuner | abrotman: first i thought kombi is a german-hater too, but he is german :-) |
| 13:39.16 | abrotman | streuner: i'm not a german hater .. wtf |
| 13:39.20 | douglas | i tried with both firefox 1.5 and 2 |
| 13:39.28 | douglas | ..... restarted too |
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| 13:39.35 | streuner | but you don't like them very much |
| 13:39.36 | abrotman | codecs too ? |
| 13:39.38 | c-w0lf | wols, just reading the file in /etc/apt , seems the line was commented out by installer "because if failed to verify" |
| 13:39.39 | nachos | anyone got any ideas on how i can fix apt get to use a mirror? |
| 13:39.46 | abrotman | streuner: no .. i like them just fine .. you're crazy |
| 13:39.48 | kombi | streuner: at least he is on a german connection..;) |
| 13:39.48 | nachos | for some reason it just doesnt work |
| 13:40.03 | wols | !mirrors |
| 13:40.03 | dpkg | hmm... debian mirrors is use apt-setup if you are running sarge, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror, or ask me about <apt-spy> |
| 13:40.06 | streuner | kombi: hehe :-) |
| 13:40.07 | douglas | abrotman: got the mallirat stuff too, debian-multimedia.org's in the sources list, updated and upgraded |
| 13:40.28 | abrotman | !w32codecs |
| 13:40.28 | dpkg | w32codecs is probably a package that is not in Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular (but proprietary) multimedia formats, such as AVI, realmedia, and windows media. Ask me about <marillat> or <debian-multimedia> for more information on how to get support for these formats in debian. |
| 13:40.44 | douglas | already got that |
| 13:40.50 | abrotman | nfc then |
| 13:40.54 | abrotman | blame howard stern |
| 13:41.02 | douglas | sigh.. ok |
| 13:41.07 | mhterres | douglas: take a look at http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#mozplayerxp |
| 13:41.12 | nachos | thanks wols ! |
| 13:41.12 | Leonidas | does anybody know where $LANGUAGE gets set? |
| 13:41.15 | nachos | works a treat |
| 13:41.18 | douglas | mhterres: ok, thanks |
| 13:41.29 | streuner | Leonidas: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:41.39 | streuner | Leonidas: or apt-get install localeconf |
| 13:41.56 | Leonidas | streuner: does not help, it sticks to de_DE |
| 13:42.08 | Leonidas | streuner: is there a configfile? |
| 13:42.29 | streuner | Leonidas: ask in #ubuntu |
| 13:42.30 | douglas | transparency and shadows stuff in kde is for suckers who want to decrease productivity |
| 13:42.40 | Leonidas | streuner: why there? |
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| 13:42.54 | streuner | Leonidas: because you hanging there around? |
| 13:43.18 | Leonidas | streuner: but it is a debian system |
| 13:43.35 | Leonidas | streuner: I just thought that it has to work the same way in debian and ubuntu |
| 13:43.40 | streuner | Leonidas: so run the command we gave you and choose what you need |
| 13:43.47 | abrotman | Leonidas: is it debian or ubuntu ? |
| 13:43.52 | Leonidas | abrotman: debian |
| 13:43.56 | Leonidas | sarge |
| 13:44.11 | streuner | Leonidas: edit /etc/environment then |
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| 13:44.30 | junix|work | pelzi_: yes i did do what it said, that didn't work |
| 13:44.41 | c-w0lf | Looks like working, thank you LoneWlf |
| 13:45.06 | Leonidas | streuner: ah, great. That was it. Thanks |
| 13:45.12 | streuner | np |
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| 13:47.43 | overclocker | hi, someone know if i have to make all the lpi exams in order? |
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| 13:48.20 | tralala | %| |
| 13:48.51 | streuner | !lpi certification |
| 13:48.52 | dpkg | hmm... lpi certification is at http://www.lpi.org Creating a Standard for cetification in linux. Testing avalible |
| 13:49.19 | confrey | hi , can somebody suggest me about a level meter of wifi's wignal? |
| 13:49.33 | tralala | confrey, iwconfig |
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| 13:51.01 | amphi | confrey: wavemon |
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| 13:52.10 | douglas | when possibly avoidable, why not ndiswrapper windows drivers? |
| 13:52.36 | abrotman | because you're using a binary windows blob on your linux box ? |
| 13:52.43 | pelzi_ | just use them if they work, dammit |
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| 13:52.59 | douglas | ok |
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| 13:53.57 | douglas | by possibly avoidable i meant when the open sources ones were available and theoretically functioning but a major pain in the ass to get working as with broadcom drivers |
| 13:54.02 | douglas | ... but nevermind |
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| 13:56.11 | h3sp4wn | It is a fact that broadcom cards work better with ndiswrapper than with the softmac bcm43xx driver (and you still need a binary blob in both cases) |
| 13:56.35 | pelzi_ | yep. just avoid them |
| 13:56.53 | pelzi_ | why fund broadcom, they are evil. |
| 13:57.10 | douglas | i don't disagree pelzi but i got this laptop for free |
| 13:57.24 | tralala | use zydas cards - the driver is now in linux |
| 13:57.45 | h3sp4wn | true (and wireless cards are dirt cheap so just changing them is alot easier than most components) |
| 13:57.53 | pelzi_ | just buy a pc card or stop whining about the broadcom. |
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| 13:58.51 | confrey | tralala, a frontend for iwconfig? I need a realtime graphic level meter |
| 13:59.26 | douglas | i do have another laptop with a lucent chip inside, near the memory, but some kind of slot i don't recognize with a wire plugged into the chip. Are these suckers interchangeable? tried with no luck, i'm guessing that's due to my lameness and not incompatibility |
| 14:00.03 | h3sp4wn | confrey: Why do you need real time (makes the connection worse most of the time because of all the scanning) |
| 14:00.09 | tralala | confrey, kwifimanager |
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| 14:00.42 | douglas | confrey: swscanner is all right, charts this stuff out too |
| 14:00.50 | douglas | can do as many as you want simultaneously |
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| 14:01.30 | douglas | big letdown to use if you're used to kismet, but it sounds like you're not |
| 14:02.23 | jetscreamer | i have my tecra open... the lucent modem is a black box :o |
| 14:02.26 | moyix | is there any command line utility that will let you put in an IP and a netrange (in, say, CIDR) and return true/false if the IP is in the range? |
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| 14:02.53 | douglas | hey bipolar |
| 14:03.27 | bipolar | hi douglas |
| 14:03.41 | douglas | type one or two bipolar? |
| 14:04.17 | bipolar | douglas: type 2 |
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| 14:04.29 | bipolar | douglas: although not as bad as I was |
| 14:04.59 | douglas | i'm rockin type one, ultra rapid cyclicity |
| 14:05.10 | douglas | good shit |
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| 14:05.13 | bipolar | douglas: heh... diffrent every day? |
| 14:05.49 | douglas | lamictal holds me down nicely but before i could go from one extreme to the other and back in under an hour |
| 14:06.02 | bipolar | douglas: wow... |
| 14:06.44 | bipolar | I kinda just deal with it. I take simple lexapro when I get two low. any major drugs make me feel numb after about a week. |
| 14:07.01 | bipolar | I'd rather feel anything but numb |
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| 14:07.20 | douglas | hypomania is ideal for configuring a new debian setup, you know.. every time i've gone through with it things get trippy |
| 14:07.25 | Alias_ | Are there any known problems with mysql not installing? |
| 14:07.29 | bipolar | hahaha |
| 14:07.30 | Alias_ | * /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! |
| 14:07.36 | abrotman | BTS |
| 14:07.39 | abrotman | it's a known issue |
| 14:07.43 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:07.44 | dpkg | i guess bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 14:08.03 | Alias_ | thanks |
| 14:08.32 | mentor | ... |
| 14:08.32 | douglas | i used apt-listbugs in accordance with the sid mandate but it got buggy and crashed on me, had to remove it. Gotta love the irony. |
| 14:08.44 | mentor | that's kinda surreal |
| 14:08.48 | poncha | guys.. can anyone explain what exactly the loadaverage ( /proc/loadavg ) information contains? i dont know where to look and in the web i've found some info only about part of its structure... it has three float numbers in the beginning which are - as far as i found - average number of processes waiting for execution during last 1/5/15 min ... but then there are two more params: x/y and some more integer .. what is all that ? (and maybe even what i f |
| 14:08.49 | poncha | ound about three first params is not accurate? ) |
| 14:09.23 | douglas | poncha: how many seconds a process has to wait to get attention, averaged into three moving averages |
| 14:09.43 | poncha | douglas, and two last params ? |
| 14:09.58 | poncha | douglas, for example : 0.06 0.11 0.13 1/263 28059 |
| 14:10.44 | abrotman | mentor: what's surreal ? |
| 14:11.34 | mentor | a sudden burst of bipolar people just as I woke up |
| 14:11.53 | douglas | poncha: hmm we've maxed out my knowledge on this |
| 14:12.50 | poncha | douglas, ok, thanks! that already helps a lot :) i knew 'the lower the better' but its good to know what it means ) |
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| 14:13.10 | douglas | sure man, i remember when i figured this out, felt nice |
| 14:13.28 | Alias_ | neat, easily fixed |
| 14:13.33 | Alias_ | BLOCK_SIZE --> BLOCKSIZE |
| 14:13.54 | mhterres | hey guys |
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| 14:14.13 | mhterres | I'm trying to mount the initrd from etch with mount -t cramfs but it's not working |
| 14:14.18 | mhterres | any ideas ? |
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| 14:14.39 | oleg | hi peeps |
| 14:14.58 | lucasvv | Good afternoon |
| 14:15.03 | Tuvok | hi all |
| 14:15.08 | mhterres | hi |
| 14:15.56 | lucasvv | The Debian weekly news has last appeared exactly one month ago: September 26. Is there an explanation? I miss my weekly update...... |
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| 14:16.27 | oleg | i have a problem i cant set correct resolution |
| 14:16.46 | tralala | mhterres, did you use -o loop? |
| 14:16.52 | mhterres | yep |
| 14:16.52 | douglas | oleg: did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 14:16.57 | oleg | yes |
| 14:17.02 | mhterres | but I does not work |
| 14:17.18 | mhterres | you have to first use losetup to associate the initrd to a /dev/loop |
| 14:17.20 | douglas | what kind of video rig you got, according to lspci? |
| 14:17.34 | oleg | i can only tell you according the xorg.conf |
| 14:17.42 | douglas | you can't hit lspci? |
| 14:17.47 | douglas | from the command line |
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| 14:17.58 | tralala | mhterres, no, you odon't |
| 14:18.08 | mhterres | I can't mount with mount |
| 14:18.10 | oleg | aha |
| 14:18.10 | tralala | lucasvv, http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/ |
| 14:18.11 | mhterres | directly |
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| 14:18.31 | oleg | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE C hipset Integrated Graphics Device |
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| 14:19.01 | tralala | mhterres, try zcat initrd > unzipped and then mo;unt |
| 14:19.02 | abrotman | lucasvv: yes .. there is |
| 14:19.09 | mhterres | mount -o loop initrd initrd-orig/ |
| 14:19.10 | mhterres | ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy |
| 14:19.10 | mhterres | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 14:19.12 | mhterres | I did it |
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| 14:19.33 | abrotman | lucasvv: http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200610250942 |
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| 14:19.48 | abrotman | mhterres: no you didn't |
| 14:19.55 | mhterres | How do I do so ? |
| 14:20.15 | mhterres | abrotman: I can mount the initrd from kernel 2.4 with mount |
| 14:20.21 | mhterres | but the 2.6 kernel I can't |
| 14:20.22 | jetscreamer | initrd isn't the fs |
| 14:20.30 | jetscreamer | use -t auto |
| 14:20.32 | mhterres | What's my error ? |
| 14:20.47 | mhterres | mount -t auto initrd initrd-orig/ |
| 14:20.47 | mhterres | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 14:20.47 | jetscreamer | or -t fstype |
| 14:20.48 | douglas | oleg: I see three packages, one of which might work... 915resolution, xserver-xorg-video-i740, xserver-xorg-video-i810 |
| 14:21.06 | douglas | oleg: but let me google your specific card maybe i'll find something meant for it |
| 14:21.21 | mhterres | jetscreamer: What's the file type ? I tried cramfs |
| 14:21.27 | mhterres | file initrd |
| 14:21.28 | mhterres | initrd: ASCII cpio archive (SVR4 with no CRC) |
| 14:21.29 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 14:21.30 | wols | oleg: i810 |
| 14:22.04 | tralala | no wonder you can't mount it |
| 14:22.14 | tralala | man cpio |
| 14:22.24 | douglas | oleg yeah fire that one up and then see if dpkg reconfigging the xserver figures out which card you have |
| 14:22.33 | mhterres | this is the initrd from kernel 2.4 |
| 14:22.38 | mhterres | file initrd |
| 14:22.38 | mhterres | initrd: Linux rev 0.0 ext2 filesystem data |
| 14:22.50 | jetscreamer | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:22.56 | mhterres | I can mount it with mount -o loop |
| 14:23.12 | oleg | yeah ive tryed dpkg before |
| 14:23.24 | oleg | but i cant install it |
| 14:23.44 | confrey | thanks to everybody |
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| 14:24.15 | oleg | uh no, i installed it already |
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| 14:24.46 | oleg | but doesnt help, i set the resolution i need in xorg.conf and linux doesnt take it anyway |
| 14:24.52 | oleg | simple ignores |
| 14:24.56 | jetscreamer | hwinfo --monitor |
| 14:25.07 | jetscreamer | hand edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 14:25.21 | oleg | command not found |
| 14:25.27 | abrotman | you need ? |
| 14:25.31 | oleg | jetscreamer: thats exactly what i did |
| 14:25.33 | abrotman | which resolution are you trying to use ? |
| 14:25.42 | oleg | i want to use 1280-960 |
| 14:25.42 | jetscreamer | apt-get install hwinfo read-edid mdetect |
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| 14:26.00 | mhterres | look the initrd from kernel 2.6.8 from Sarge |
| 14:26.01 | mhterres | file initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 14:26.01 | mhterres | initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386: Linux Compressed ROM File System data, little endian size 4509696 version #2 sorted_dirs CRC 0xb3f089fb, edition 0, 2587 blocks, 331 files |
| 14:26.02 | amphi | !win oleg |
| 14:26.02 | dpkg | Congratulations, oleg! You have won a one way ticket to Gaza! |
| 14:26.03 | abrotman | maybe start with 1024x768 .. just to see if it works |
| 14:26.26 | oleg | i already have that resolution |
| 14:26.28 | mhterres | now initrd from Etch |
| 14:26.33 | mhterres | file initrd |
| 14:26.33 | mhterres | initrd: ASCII cpio archive (SVR4 with no CRC |
| 14:26.33 | oleg | but i have 21' monitor |
| 14:26.42 | mhterres | any ideas of how can I mount this ? |
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| 14:27.43 | oleg | jetscreamer: nothing happened after i typed hwinfo --monitor |
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| 14:28.05 | oleg | just some calcutations passed |
| 14:29.00 | jetscreamer | then a blank screen? |
| 14:29.12 | oleg | nope |
| 14:29.17 | oleg | simple nothing.. command line again |
| 14:29.23 | jetscreamer | yeah that |
| 14:29.58 | mhterres | Anybody know how can I mount an initrd from type ASCII cpio archive ? |
| 14:30.01 | jdt | does anyone have any good recommendations for a guide to hardening / securing linux |
| 14:30.19 | jetscreamer | got hal? |
| 14:30.31 | oleg | hal? |
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| 14:30.47 | oleg | if you're asking me, then no :) |
| 14:31.08 | jetscreamer | i'm not sure why that happens to hwinfo, i know it doesn't happen with the sid version, anymore |
| 14:31.46 | oleg | it shows hardware information right? |
| 14:31.54 | oleg | at least should |
| 14:32.07 | lo | anyone have a recommendation for a high volume pouch lamination unit? |
| 14:32.16 | jetscreamer | at the end it shows you the values for horiz and vert that go in the monitor section of xorg.conf |
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| 14:32.29 | jetscreamer | yes it does/should |
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| 14:32.43 | Lin | hi all |
| 14:32.54 | jetscreamer | i can't remember if it worked as root or not back then |
| 14:33.04 | jetscreamer | don't think so though |
| 14:33.12 | Lin | why all call to ucf are returning status 1 , im using sarge backports. This is messing around with all my updates. Any help? |
| 14:33.14 | jetscreamer | are you on sarge? |
| 14:33.32 | Lin | ucf --purge /etc/fonts/local.conf; echo $? |
| 14:33.33 | Lin | 1 |
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| 14:33.57 | jetscreamer | what do the EE's say in the log |
| 14:35.23 | mhterres | I discover |
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| 14:35.23 | mhterres | cpio -i < ../initrd |
| 14:35.31 | mhterres | there's no mounting |
| 14:35.48 | mhterres | It's worry. Each version with a different type |
| 14:35.51 | skel | anyone use logrotate to mail logs? I get the mail but the log is never attached :( |
| 14:35.52 | mhterres | makes me crazy :-D |
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| 14:36.12 | skel | I probably need to look at the exim log |
| 14:36.44 | TheUndefined | i want to update proftpd from 1.2.10 to 1.2.10-15, "apt-get show proftpd" is saying it knows 1.2.10-15, but when i run apt install it sais it's at the latest version, how can i force it to upgrade to the later build? |
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| 14:38.19 | TheUndefined | maybe the 1.2.10-15 isn't tagged as stable, but i don't know how to check for that |
| 14:39.57 | oleg | !win oleg |
| 14:39.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, oleg! You have won the US presidency! |
| 14:40.08 | oleg | !win mhterres |
| 14:40.09 | dpkg | Congratulations, mhterres! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 14:40.22 | Lin | !win lin |
| 14:40.23 | dpkg | Congratulations, lin! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 14:40.27 | mhterres | ???? |
| 14:40.31 | Lin | OMG! |
| 14:40.34 | mhterres | hehehehe |
| 14:40.45 | oleg | zhest' |
| 14:40.52 | TheUndefined | looks like oleg got of worst :) |
| 14:40.56 | oleg | :( |
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| 14:41.46 | abchirk | !ops Samantha[copier] ... porn sites.. |
| 14:41.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abchirk complains about: Samantha[copier] ... porn sites.. |
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| 14:41.57 | Rez | onjoin? |
| 14:42.02 | mentor | yes |
| 14:42.03 | abchirk | yes |
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| 14:42.14 | mentor | I kicked her yesterday too |
| 14:42.16 | RichiH | again? |
| 14:42.17 | abchirk | Rez its nearly every time wehn i join in here :) |
| 14:42.23 | grendal_prime | im using nomachine free nx to connect to some windows boxes. |
| 14:42.27 | RichiH | abchirk: erm? |
| 14:42.29 | abchirk | it seems always the same guy |
| 14:42.34 | RichiH | i klined that host 10 hours ago |
| 14:42.52 | abchirk | hm :( |
| 14:42.52 | RichiH | ah, there |
| 14:42.58 | abchirk | but only happnes in debian |
| 14:43.08 | RichiH | sorry, my bad |
| 14:43.10 | grendal_prime | through a debian router...i thought the client would route vnc through ssh. but ummm i still have to have th free nx server installed on the debian router? |
| 14:43.15 | RichiH | lo: took care of it |
| 14:43.59 | petemc | grendal_prime: freenx client needs freenx server |
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| 14:45.01 | grendal_prime | and the node as well. |
| 14:45.03 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 14:45.35 | grendal_prime | its werid they dont just wrap up all of that in one package, i cant install the server on the router without installing the client...(dpkg bitches about that) |
| 14:45.43 | grendal_prime | which seems really werid |
| 14:47.11 | grendal_prime | and the client wants...dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nxclient: |
| 14:47.11 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.26 | grendal_prime | i dont want all that stuff on the router.. |
| 14:47.37 | grendal_prime | \me |
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| 14:48.29 | petemc | grendal_prime: why do you need freenx on a router at all? |
| 14:49.20 | grendal_prime | wanted the windows users, to be able to hit there machines on the other side of the router. |
| 14:49.34 | petemc | ? |
| 14:49.38 | grendal_prime | currently i do this all the time via tunneling vnc through ssh. |
| 14:49.48 | grendal_prime | but thats on a liunx box. |
| 14:50.10 | junix|work | could someone help me fix this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/4204 |
| 14:50.25 | grendal_prime | ...ok petemc say you are at home, and you are a windows user and your machine at work is behind linux router and is running vncserver. |
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| 14:50.49 | petemc | grendal_prime: right, you would forward ports to the appropriate machine |
| 14:51.07 | grendal_prime | thats rediculas, there are 100 machines. |
| 14:51.32 | petemc | indeed it is ridiculous for 100 machines |
| 14:52.12 | grendal_prime | with a linux machine you use vnc and the via command... |
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| 14:52.47 | grendal_prime | like...vncviewer -via user@server ipofmachineonotherside:0 |
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| 14:53.07 | grendal_prime | and ssh routs there automatically, and its all encrypted as well. |
| 14:53.20 | PerfDave | Not all encrypted |
| 14:53.22 | JoelR | Hello, anyone knows if Debian's dovecot binary has ldap support? |
| 14:53.46 | mentor | JoelR: It does |
| 14:53.55 | JoelR | mentor: sarge's one? |
| 14:54.01 | mentor | JoelR: ah. unknown. |
| 14:54.05 | grendal_prime | PerfDave, ? im unable to make head or tails of the data |
| 14:54.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: hey, do you want to build a kernel for all possible i386 linux variants possible? with only one command? |
| 14:54.20 | mentor | JoelR: There should be a dovecot-ldap.conf file around if it cdoes |
| 14:54.33 | JoelR | mentor: yes it is |
| 14:54.36 | PerfDave | grendal_prime: It's not end-to-end encrypted |
| 14:54.50 | grendal_prime | right...on the other side of the router it isnt... |
| 14:54.53 | grendal_prime | sorry |
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| 14:55.18 | grendal_prime | i mean out in the wild its encrypted. |
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| 14:56.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: golly .. that'd be fun |
| 14:56.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/dphys-kernel-packages/dphys-kernel-packages_20061026-1_i386.deb |
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| 14:56.44 | abrotman | freak! |
| 14:56.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: get this, it can do it, p1,p3,p4,k7,k8, 1gb,4gb,64gb all with or without smp |
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| 14:57.04 | PerfDave | If I've got a Sony Vaio picturebook with a Crusoe processor, is i386 the best install choice? |
| 14:57.05 | grendal_prime | thing is, i would like to be able to offer this sort of service to the windows users as well... |
| 14:57.23 | tarzeau | PerfDave: wouldn't p1 work also? |
| 14:57.42 | pelzi_ | eh... |
| 14:57.47 | pelzi_ | i386 is an architecture |
| 14:57.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: did i tell you i'm swiss now? |
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| 14:57.59 | pelzi_ | so, yes. i386 (x86) it is. |
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| 14:58.20 | Braindead | tarzeau: are you growing moustaches and a mullet ? |
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| 14:58.28 | PerfDave | pelzi_: Yes, but the Crusoe chip can (IIRC) run instructions from several architectures, including its own one, which is why I asked. |
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| 14:58.44 | tarzeau | Braindead: if i get the passport quick, i'll go to linuxtag.at and then to FOSDEM |
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| 14:58.50 | tarzeau | Braindead: and then to france, sweden! |
| 14:58.57 | tarzeau | Braindead: australia! south america |
| 14:59.00 | tarzeau | Braindead: the northpole |
| 14:59.05 | pelzi_ | if it is a PC, you'll use i386 |
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| 14:59.10 | unseensoul | hi |
| 14:59.20 | PerfDave | pelzi_: What do you mean by "PC"? |
| 14:59.23 | Braindead | tarzeau: fact is you need moustaches and a mullet to get Swiss chitizenship. it's mandatory |
| 14:59.32 | pelzi_ | if it has a PC bios. |
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| 14:59.38 | PerfDave | pelzi_: What do you mean by "PC"? |
| 14:59.42 | buruka | #dpkg gpg |
| 14:59.42 | unseensoul | what do i need to do to use alsa with oss emulation? |
| 14:59.51 | Braindead | unseensoul: guess what? alsa-oss |
| 15:00.01 | pelzi_ | PC happens to be the IBM PC architecture |
| 15:00.03 | tarzeau | Braindead: does it matter where the moustache is? |
| 15:00.16 | stew | unseensoul: modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; add snd-pcm-oss to /etc/modules |
| 15:00.23 | Braindead | tarzeau: it should be visible,yes |
| 15:01.17 | tarzeau | Braindead: you've never been in switzerland or turkey, right? |
| 15:01.43 | tarzeau | abrotman: MAN, i found a new game |
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| 15:01.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://www.happypenguin.org/images/fizzball_screenshot1.jpg |
| 15:01.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: TEH CUTE |
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| 15:02.18 | Braindead | tarzeau: I've been in switzerland several times,I live near the border. maybe it's just the impression I got in the eighties that was burnt into my mind,as a kid. mullet and moustaches all around me |
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| 15:03.21 | PerfDave | Are the Etch installers still knackered? Not sure whether to try one or whether to dist-upgrade from Sarge |
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| 15:03.42 | grendal_prime | petemc, is there a particular reason youhave to have the client installed on the machine you want running as a server? |
| 15:03.59 | petemc | grendal_prime: dunno |
| 15:04.05 | unseensoul | stew, do i need to install the alsa-oss package as well? |
| 15:04.19 | petemc | you would assume so, seeing as its a requirement |
| 15:04.35 | stew | unseensoul: no |
| 15:04.47 | tarzeau | Braindead: can you show me a screenshot of your desktop? |
| 15:04.53 | unseensoul | stew, thanks |
| 15:04.59 | unseensoul | Braindead, thanks |
| 15:05.03 | unseensoul | :) |
| 15:06.16 | Braindead | tarzeau: http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4992/hellotarzeaufs0.png here you go |
| 15:06.20 | possie | how can i see which library i a certain PID uses? |
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| 15:06.49 | Braindead | possie: a certain PID? as in certain process? ldd |
| 15:06.54 | tarzeau | Braindead: do you also use feh? |
| 15:07.06 | possie | Braindead, but i can' use ldd on a running program right? |
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| 15:07.21 | Braindead | possie: as long as you know where its binary resides... |
| 15:07.53 | Braindead | tarzeau: I usually use qiv. I'm gonna give feh a try anyway,thanks for the tip |
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| 15:08.12 | tarzeau | Braindead: same author as scrot |
| 15:08.31 | tarzeau | Braindead: it can do stuff like : http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/photos/jungfraujoch/index.jpg |
| 15:08.59 | Braindead | the description alone left me astonished. I'm gonna try it right now |
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| 15:12.05 | mentor | possie: You cna also look at the processes memory map |
| 15:12.17 | mentor | ' |
| 15:12.25 | possie | memic, xmap ? |
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| 15:12.54 | mentor | possie: cat /proc/PID/maps |
| 15:12.57 | mentor | FSVO use |
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| 15:15.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: THE GAME ROCKS (no source though) |
| 15:15.29 | tarzeau | it's like arkanoid on a farm |
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| 15:15.43 | tarzeau | instead of square blocks, you shoot farmer animals, like cow, chicken and ducks |
| 15:18.54 | grendal_prime | what game is this? |
| 15:19.09 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: fizzball, www.happypenguin.org |
| 15:19.14 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: great sound, good animations |
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| 15:23.36 | grendal_prime | looks like my kids might like it |
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| 15:26.52 | black_13 | how do i capture ever thing that is sent to the console during boot up? |
| 15:27.05 | Braindead | !tell black_13 about bootlogd |
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| 15:29.07 | rue_house | black_13, dmesg |
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| 15:30.26 | black_13 | actually dmesg has very little data |
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| 15:31.00 | GoAuLd | i'm not sure the dmesg command is working very well... i think it miss some data (if my syslogd was not buggy i didnt tested it a lot) |
| 15:31.16 | GoAuLd | anyway the full boot sequence is /var/log/dmesg |
| 15:31.33 | GoAuLd | better load that file than trye to read it via dmesg command |
| 15:32.17 | Braindead | which part of "bootlogd" you didn't get? |
| 15:34.24 | GoAuLd | yeah that word explains "everything" |
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| 15:35.33 | Braindead | !tell GoAuLd about bootlogd |
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| 15:37.42 | black_13 | any reason why i get funny unreadable characters when i use the program mc? |
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| 15:38.10 | peterrus | good evening |
| 15:38.19 | stew | black_13: probably because your terminal doesn't support line drawing characters, see if it works in a plan "xterm" |
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| 15:38.39 | black_13 | ah |
| 15:38.57 | black_13 | works great in xterm |
| 15:39.23 | black_13 | is there a way to get it to work in konsole? |
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| 15:40.04 | peterrus | i have some mkv (matroska video) files with two audio tracks, that is: japanese and english (you get it, anime) and i want to burn them to dvd, in such a way i can choose languages, i know how to make dvd menu's. now i just need to know how to burn them in such a way i can choose which audiotrack to play |
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| 15:41.25 | Kundun | I am trying to install psybnc, but it doesn't see my openssl install even when i point it to /usr/bin/openssl, anyone know how i can fix that? |
| 15:42.12 | stew | Kundun: install libssl-dev |
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| 15:43.07 | Kundun | have that installed stew |
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| 15:44.06 | stew | Kundun: check config.log to see exactly which file it is looking for, it's probably looking for something from /usr/include/openssl, not /usr/bin/openssl |
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| 15:45.24 | Kundun | i thought that, and pointed it to /usr/include/openssl, but then it said "SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/openssl"" |
| 15:45.29 | black_13 | how do i use the output of xvidtune to setup my XFConfig file? |
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| 15:46.06 | stew | Kundun: try simply pointing it as "/usr" |
| 15:46.46 | Kundun | sweet, it works |
| 15:46.47 | Kundun | thanks |
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| 15:48.00 | sandman | memcached, Turck MMCache, eAccelerator and APC all do basically the same thing, correct? |
| 15:49.03 | Gokee2_Laptop | Hello all I did a dist-upgrade a while ago and debian grabed bcm43xx (makeing my ndiswrapper module fail) and it did not work. I am wondering if someone can point my in the way of a good page making bcm43 bcm43 work. I am running debian testing. |
| 15:49.52 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: which kernel are you running? |
| 15:50.38 | Gokee2_Laptop | cyberkni, 2.6.17-2-686 #1 SMP (stock debian kernel) |
| 15:50.58 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: that should be included in that kernel.. |
| 15:51.22 | Gokee2_Laptop | cyberkni, Yes bcm43 is there. It just does not seem to woek |
| 15:51.25 | Gokee2_Laptop | work* |
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| 15:52.20 | Gokee2_Laptop | it displays a "eth2" I think but iwlist scanning says "eth2" has no wireless extensions and dhclient does not like it. |
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| 15:55.06 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: what about the firmware? |
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| 15:55.47 | Gokee2_Laptop | cyberkni, What about it? |
| 15:56.08 | Gokee2_Laptop | How do I check or do anything to firmware? |
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| 15:56.50 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: you need the firmware in /lib/firmware |
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| 15:57.20 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: there is a tool for that too , install bcm43xx-fwcutter |
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| 15:58.13 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, I put some stuff I got from bcm43xx-fwcutter there |
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| 15:58.43 | Gokee2_Laptop | I was reading http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7949 on how to do that but it does not give very much information |
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| 16:01.06 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: well download the http://drinus.net/airport/wl_apsta.o |
| 16:01.08 | Gokee2_Laptop | Basicly I used bcm43xx-fwcutter to extract /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5a/bcmwl5.sys then I coped bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/ |
| 16:01.39 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: then do bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <downloaded file> |
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| 16:02.16 | Gokee2_Laptop | ok |
| 16:02.18 | jduggan | hi, whats debians hotplug firmware directory? |
| 16:02.21 | Gokee2_Laptop | its tiny |
| 16:02.29 | jduggan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:03.06 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, ok I did that |
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| 16:03.27 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, Should I try it now? (will have to unload ndiswrapper and go offline) |
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| 16:04.18 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: yep now try modprobing bcm43xx |
| 16:04.24 | Gokee2_Laptop | ok |
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| 16:04.37 | Gokee2_Laptop | I will be back soon thanks |
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| 16:04.57 | helo_ | anyone have experience with any of coraid's products? |
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| 16:06.59 | Charminthemoose | anyone know where i can find a picture of hans lermen? |
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| 16:07.19 | Charminthemoose | The creator of loadlin |
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| 16:07.53 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, it did not work |
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| 16:08.21 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: what happened? |
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| 16:10.22 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, I posted the whole thing to pastebin but its not going... |
| 16:10.28 | Stevie[FP] | how do I install a specific version of a package? I can never remember |
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| 16:10.33 | pdanski | help! i have a directory which says : drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nogroup 41336832 Oct 26 16:53 data/ -> and find data/ | wc -l gives me 0.. wtf is going on? |
| 16:10.59 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: then try running /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh |
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| 16:11.35 | Gokee2_Laptop | grr O well basicly it gave a rather normal looking entry in iwconfig entry but iwlist scanning said it was invalid |
| 16:11.38 | zenwryly | I just switched my wpa_supplicant setup over to the ifupdown debian roaming mode setup described in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz. I'd like to be able to "restart" or "reinitialize" the ifupdown system and the wpa related daemons but when I do "/etc/init.d/ifupdown restart" everything seems to die. Any suggestions? |
| 16:12.16 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, that did something |
| 16:12.27 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: it is supposed to :P |
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| 16:12.52 | Gokee2_Laptop | it downloaded stuff and extracted stuff |
| 16:13.02 | Gokee2_Laptop | now the driver might work? |
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| 16:13.13 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: *might* |
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| 16:14.55 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, http://channels.debian.net/paste/4231 a log of what we have done |
| 16:15.02 | Gokee2_Laptop | I am going to go try it now bbs |
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| 16:17.22 | Gokee2_Laptop | Cybodog, Same thing |
| 16:17.36 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, "eth2 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device" |
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| 16:18.28 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: that is weird.. did you prepare the module with m-a or are you using the one which came with the kernel? |
| 16:18.46 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, I am using the one that came with the kernel |
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| 16:19.20 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, Should I use the m-a? |
| 16:19.21 | fluxdude | I've got an problem, loaded a usb stick which is detected but I can't mount it because no /dev/ entry exists for sdc or sdc1. Why does no entry exist. Is udev at fault? |
| 16:19.39 | Charminthemoose | anyone know where i can find a picture of hans lermen?He's the creator of loadlin.exe |
| 16:19.49 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: nope no need. |
| 16:19.56 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, ok |
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| 16:20.04 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: ok do you have .sys file?? |
| 16:20.15 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, er... where? |
| 16:20.26 | Gokee2_Laptop | ah |
| 16:20.27 | Gokee2_Laptop | I do |
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| 16:20.56 | Gokee2_Laptop | in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcm15a/ |
| 16:21.15 | Gokee2_Laptop | bcmwl5.sys |
| 16:21.38 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: try the fwcutter with that one too .. |
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| 16:22.21 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, That was the one I tried about a week ago when I first started with this problem... |
| 16:22.44 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: hmm .. |
| 16:23.21 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: well then m out of ideas :P |
| 16:23.46 | Gokee2_Laptop | :( |
| 16:24.23 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, Do you know the bcm project website? I have not been able to find it |
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| 16:25.33 | Braindead | !tell black_13 about root |
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| 16:27.21 | Gokee2_Laptop | fluxdude, Normally a usb stick on my computer goes into /dev/sda1 did you try that? |
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| 16:30.42 | kb3ien | hrm `dpkg -l ` truncates pkg names, making it impossible to use the output to prime another system with. is there a way to get the names of all the pkgs installed on a debian system. |
| 16:30.51 | kreshnik | what i FB ? |
| 16:30.54 | PerfDave | kb3ien: COLUMNS=200 |
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| 16:31.02 | Braindead | kb3ien: dpkg --get-selections also |
| 16:31.39 | stew | kb3ien: /msg dpkg selections |
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| 16:32.00 | peterrus | guess not |
| 16:32.03 | kb3ien | ahh that works, maybe setting COLUMNS to outrageous values too. |
| 16:32.16 | kb3ien | Braindead: thnx |
| 16:32.34 | PerfDave | Is there any ETA on the Etch RC1 install images? There's some week-old news on the d-i pages saying they'll be coming soon. |
| 16:32.34 | kb3ien | PerfDaye too! |
| 16:32.58 | kb3ien | now to spend 2 hours rebooting into the old system to re-export.... *sigh* |
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| 16:34.23 | evilbulgarian | hi, where and should i set the java vars: Â JAVA_ROOT, Â JAVA_BINDER, JAVA_HOME |
| 16:35.01 | PerfDave | evilbulgarian: You should set them where they'll be seen by the app you want to see them? |
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| 16:36.49 | stew | evilbulgarian: in a wrapper script which wraps the command that needs them. in general you shouldn't need to set them |
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| 16:41.05 | evilbulgarian | PerfDave, stew: thanks, would they go in /etc/profile if i wanted them to be global |
| 16:41.29 | cydork | Gokee2_Laptop: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
| 16:41.47 | Gokee2_Laptop | cyberkni, Found it a min ago :) |
| 16:41.53 | Gokee2_Laptop | cydork, * |
| 16:42.13 | PerfDave | evilbulgarian: Not necessarily |
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| 16:45.28 | stew | evilbulgarian: if you wanted them to be global, /etc/profile would be a place to put them. you don't, however, want them to be global |
| 16:46.07 | kreshnik | what is best cd burner in debian stable ? |
| 16:46.18 | PerfDave | k3b |
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| 16:47.17 | peterrus | or on gnome : gnomebaker |
| 16:47.21 | peterrus | i would say |
| 16:47.28 | kreshnik | i use sxfce |
| 16:47.30 | peterrus | but k3b is really good indeed |
| 16:47.37 | peterrus | never heard of |
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| 16:47.42 | kreshnik | xfce |
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| 16:47.45 | kreshnik | :) |
| 16:47.46 | peterrus | oh |
| 16:47.49 | peterrus | then use k3b |
| 16:48.06 | kreshnik | lets try it :) |
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| 16:48.40 | kreshnik | i like more fireburner but i had some problems to install it |
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| 16:51.27 | peterrus | use whatever you like, that linux, but try k3b before you die |
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| 16:51.37 | black_13 | hello |
| 16:52.03 | black_13 | why was i banned i didnt i wasnt using any foul language |
| 16:52.13 | black_13 | and i was abusive? |
| 16:52.42 | dracflamloc | hm |
| 16:52.43 | dracflamloc | crap |
| 16:53.00 | dracflamloc | the lastest netinst nightly doesnt detect my flash drive as something to install to |
| 16:53.23 | Ronin | when was this black_13 i dont see anything |
| 16:54.03 | black_13 | i tried to login a bit ago and it said "your banned" |
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| 16:54.17 | black_13 | i am on windows xp box |
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| 16:54.59 | black_13 | when i try login as root on my linux box i get messages about how i cant post to the channel |
| 16:55.06 | Braindead | !tell black_13 about root |
| 16:55.16 | Ronin | ahhh ya that would do it |
| 16:55.21 | Braindead | read it. again. |
| 16:55.24 | tuxedup | In order to be able to shutdown and reboot from thge command line as a normal user, what permissions do I need to give my self? |
| 16:55.37 | Braindead | tuxedup: just configure sudo properly |
| 16:55.46 | tuxedup | I do not use sudo |
| 16:55.53 | Braindead | start using it. |
| 16:55.55 | RichiH | tuxedup: reboot just ctrl-alt-del |
| 16:56.05 | Phated | tuxedup: Why not? |
| 16:56.14 | black_13 | BrainDead i wanst able to lauch x11 from a non root account for some reason |
| 16:56.46 | Braindead | !tell black_13 about irssi |
| 16:56.57 | Phated | Eh, that's an X config issue. |
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| 16:57.03 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 16:57.03 | dpkg | from memory, tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 16:57.06 | black_13 | oh let me see how it works |
| 16:57.11 | RichiH | black_13: you can always invoke a shell, copy the .Xauthority and start your client |
| 16:57.18 | RichiH | unless you used irssi, in which case, it becomes easier |
| 16:57.32 | RichiH | oh, and fall back to normal user in between ;) |
| 16:58.13 | Phated | Heh. |
| 16:58.49 | tuxedup | Phated: I just like to use plain old su |
| 16:58.54 | black_13 | RichiH copy the .Xauthority from where to where ? |
| 16:59.17 | Phated | tuxedup: Eh, but if you want to do single commands, sudo is easier. |
| 17:00.00 | RichiH | black_13: root home to user home |
| 17:00.01 | black_13 | thanks |
| 17:00.16 | tuxedup | RichiH: That would not help with shutting down. I would have to cut the power before the machines comes back on. |
| 17:00.39 | RichiH | then ou can start yor user stuff in the troot X |
| 17:00.42 | RichiH | tuyes |
| 17:00.50 | PerfDave | Phated: Not much easier, barring caching passwords. |
| 17:00.51 | black_13 | RichiH that doesnt seem to fix the issue |
| 17:00.52 | RichiH | tuxedup: yes |
| 17:00.58 | RichiH | i did say reboot, though |
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| 17:01.10 | Phated | PerfDave: Mm, but it does take a step out. |
| 17:01.54 | black_13 | what is funny i can see x11 begin to start then it crashes |
| 17:02.14 | Phated | Error? |
| 17:02.16 | tuxedup | RichiH: I used to be able to shut down until i did a system upgrade just a minuite ago, so I figure some eprmission became screwed/ |
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| 17:02.48 | dracflamloc | wee =) |
| 17:03.05 | PerfDave | Phated: Which step is that? |
| 17:03.39 | Phated | PerfDave: You only have to hit enter twice instead of thrice to get a command running! |
| 17:03.42 | evilbulgarian | how can i find if my cpu's support 64 bit |
| 17:03.43 | Phated | :) |
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| 17:04.34 | RichiH | tuxedup: oh. no idea, sorry :/ |
| 17:04.55 | PerfDave | Phated: What's the difference between "sudo ls" and "su -c ls"? |
| 17:05.22 | Braindead | PerfDave: you don't have to know root password. |
| 17:05.33 | PerfDave | Braindead: We're not talking about that. |
| 17:05.38 | black_13 | funny now the error is auth: error in locking authority file /home/xuser/.Xauthority |
| 17:05.46 | Phated | PerfDave: Mm, I don't think I've -used- -c - but surely not having to use a root password is, er... well, not -easier-, but it allows for you to delegate to other users the ability to have higher privs without giving them r00t. |
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| 17:05.55 | RichiH | Phated: and PerfDave in here? did i miss sth or is this coincidence? |
| 17:05.57 | noob-debian | hello |
| 17:06.02 | PerfDave | Phated: In terms of the number of times you have to press enter. |
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| 17:06.12 | Phated | PerfDave: Not much at all, dear. I concede. |
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| 17:06.58 | noob-debian | I have some questions concerning the installation of the nvidia graphics drivers ind Debian 3.1 (sarge) |
| 17:07.17 | Phated | PerfDave: I don't use it, my mom does :( I USE THE DEBIAN! :( |
| 17:07.24 | PerfDave | !tell noob-debian -about nvidia |
| 17:07.29 | noob-debian | :) |
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| 17:07.50 | lkthomas | hey all |
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| 17:08.01 | lkthomas | how could I know if my debian is running dual CPU resource ? |
| 17:08.12 | WoodyWoodpecker | How can I check to see if my kernel is 64bit compiled? |
| 17:08.18 | PerfDave | lkthomas: cat /proc/cpuinfo, if you see more than one, you're good |
| 17:08.19 | noob-debian | i have downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-....run with wget |
| 17:08.20 | Braindead | lkthomas: /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:08.37 | Braindead | noob-debian: throw it away. then read what dpkg told ya |
| 17:08.38 | WoodyWoodpecker | I thought that too, but what does it tell me about 64bit? |
| 17:08.39 | PerfDave | WoodyWoodpecker: "uname -a" |
| 17:08.58 | WoodyWoodpecker | PerfDave: What should I see with '' uname -a '' and 64bit? |
| 17:09.19 | PerfDave | WoodyWoodpecker: Either "amd64" or "x86_64" or "em64t" or something like that. |
| 17:09.21 | WoodyWoodpecker | I only get unimportant information on both '' /proc/cpuinfo '' and '' uname -a ''. |
| 17:09.32 | noob-debian | so I am trying to run with "sh NVIDIA-Linux...run" |
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| 17:09.37 | PerfDave | noob-debian: DON'T DO THAT |
| 17:09.44 | Phated | /proc/cpuinfo isn't unimportant, impertinent! |
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| 17:09.48 | noob-debian | ok, how do I proceed? |
| 17:09.51 | black_13 | ok xinit starts x but with no window manager |
| 17:09.51 | PerfDave | WoodyWoodpecker: What does "uname -a" tell you? |
| 17:09.55 | Phated | noob-debian: READ what dpkg is telling you in msg, please. |
| 17:09.58 | PerfDave | noob-debian: Did you see what dpkg told you? |
| 17:10.04 | noob-debian | hmmm |
| 17:10.11 | black_13 | so its not a case of missing library files or driver files |
| 17:10.15 | WoodyWoodpecker | PerfDave: I cant see, cause I am working on a 32bit sun workstation. |
| 17:10.22 | WoodyWoodpecker | @ home I can check. |
| 17:10.23 | noob-debian | can't do that right now :( I'm in windowsXP |
| 17:10.31 | WoodyWoodpecker | Thanks, gtg anyway. |
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| 17:10.54 | Braindead | noob-debian: you can't read? |
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| 17:11.12 | Braindead | I never knew XP could make you reading impaired |
| 17:11.15 | noob-debian | I can't read what? |
| 17:11.22 | Phated | noob-debian: dpkg, the BOT, in MSG, in your IRC CLIENT. |
| 17:11.25 | noob-debian | bugger |
| 17:11.26 | Braindead | !tell noob-debian about nvidia |
| 17:11.32 | noob-debian | :) i just saw it |
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| 17:11.45 | Phated | Braindead: It makes you mildly vision impaired, apparently. |
| 17:11.55 | noob-debian | probably does :) |
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| 17:12.27 | Braindead | noob-debian: stop touching yourself! you'll go blind |
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| 17:12.45 | noob-debian | ahaha |
| 17:12.48 | Phated | Yeah, despite the porn popups in XP, you're not meant to. |
| 17:13.25 | Phated | RichiH: Must be fate. |
| 17:13.27 | noob-debian | so nvidia-installer it is, with apt-get? |
| 17:13.29 | Phated | (phate, hee.) |
| 17:13.36 | Eclipser | Braindead, can you read http://modeemi.fi/~jms/winsvn.png ? :) |
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| 17:14.18 | Braindead | Eclipser: sorry I've got little proficiency in japanese.... |
| 17:14.34 | Braindead | domo arigato gozaimashta,baka gaijin! |
| 17:14.39 | Braindead | uh yeah and BUKKAKE |
| 17:14.39 | gans20|malchik | hello |
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| 17:14.53 | gans20|malchik | # ./make-jpkg ../jdk-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin |
| 17:14.53 | gans20|malchik | ./make-jpkg: line 104: dh_testroot: command not found |
| 17:15.29 | gans20|malchik | how can I install dh_testroot ? |
| 17:15.29 | Braindead | gans20|malchik: use fakeroot |
| 17:15.29 | gans20|malchik | I did |
| 17:15.29 | gans20|malchik | same effect |
| 17:15.29 | stew | gans20|malchik: how did you install make-jpkg? |
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| 17:15.32 | RichiH | Phated: heh |
| 17:15.32 | Phated | Braindead: Please and thank you, you stupid foreigner? Good choice :) |
| 17:15.48 | Phated | RichiH: How're things? :) |
| 17:16.23 | gans20|malchik | stew, just downloaded java-package-0.24.tar.gz, unpacked and... thats it |
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| 17:16.33 | stew | gans20|malchik: are you using debian? |
| 17:16.36 | Braindead | you what??? |
| 17:16.43 | Eulex | gans20|malchik, why do you run make-jpkg from the current directory? how could dh_testroot not be installed as java-package depends on it? why are you even using make-jpkg as there now are packages that contain the jdk in debian? |
| 17:16.50 | unixslut | confidential |
| 17:17.18 | gans20|malchik | # uname -a |
| 17:17.20 | gans20|malchik | Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Nov 30 21:38:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:17.40 | RichiH | Phated: fine |
| 17:17.41 | Braindead | gans20|malchik: why on earth you downloaded a .tar.gz and unpacked it? |
| 17:17.46 | stew | gans20|malchik: you should be installing it with "apt-get install java-pacakge" or "aptitude install java-pacakge" you'll need contrib sources: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 17:17.49 | gans20|malchik | Eulex, which packages? I just didn't found them |
| 17:17.51 | RichiH | Phated: i am in india, doing my master thesis |
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| 17:18.01 | Phated | RichiH: Exciting! Food there is awesome, no? |
| 17:18.04 | Eulex | gans20|malchik, oh, right. they're not in stable yet. |
| 17:18.15 | stew | Eulex: yes they are |
| 17:18.24 | gans20|malchik | Eulex, its ok, how do the called on unstable? |
| 17:18.39 | stew | gans20|malchik: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:18.45 | Eulex | stew, I'm talking about the packages that *contain* the jdk. |
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| 17:18.49 | stew | oh |
| 17:19.05 | gans20|malchik | stew, 21:17:14| <gans20|malchik> # uname -a |
| 17:19.06 | gans20|malchik | 21:17:14| <gans20|malchik> Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Nov 30 21:38:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 17:19.28 | gans20|malchik | # apt-get install java-pacakge |
| 17:19.29 | dracflamloc | whats typically a good mirror to choose in the USA for debian netinstall? |
| 17:19.29 | gans20|malchik | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 17:19.29 | gans20|malchik | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 17:19.29 | gans20|malchik | E: Couldn't find package java-pacakge |
| 17:19.34 | RichiH | phindeed |
| 17:19.38 | stew | gans20|malchik: yes, i saw your kernel version. i was wondering about the debian version. are you running stable? testing? unsatable? |
| 17:19.40 | RichiH | Phated: |
| 17:19.47 | stew | dpkg: tell gans20|malchik about contrib |
| 17:19.47 | Braindead | it is in stable indeed. it's contrib |
| 17:19.49 | Eulex | gans20|malchik, add contrib to your apt sources |
| 17:19.49 | RichiH | intenet connection is also an adventure |
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| 17:19.59 | RichiH | no diea how, but that slow speed mangles my internets |
| 17:20.01 | stew | Braindead: that's not what they were talking about |
| 17:20.09 | Phated | RichiH: Heheh. |
| 17:20.09 | stew | gans20|malchik: you need to add contrib to your sources |
| 17:20.11 | RichiH | as in either ssh or irssi get lotsa confused |
| 17:20.11 | gans20|malchik | ok, I'll see the contribs |
| 17:20.18 | RichiH | leading to 19:19:07 < RichiH> phIindeed |
| 17:20.19 | Braindead | !tell gans20|malchik about install java |
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| 17:20.33 | RichiH | or lines being sent tice |
| 17:20.35 | RichiH | twice |
| 17:20.41 | noob-debian | can I ask a question? |
| 17:20.45 | Braindead | no |
| 17:20.55 | RichiH | if i were to say hey\nyou it would look like |
| 17:20.58 | RichiH | noob-debian: sure |
| 17:20.59 | Braindead | you already had one. that one |
| 17:21.00 | RichiH | !ask |
| 17:21.00 | PerfDave | Or just avoid Java because it's a big pile of poo ;) |
| 17:21.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:21.02 | RichiH | hey |
| 17:21.04 | RichiH | heyyou |
| 17:21.05 | gans20|malchik | how can I look if I run stab;e/unstable/testing version? |
| 17:21.05 | stew | Braindead: stop |
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| 17:21.11 | RichiH | Phated: which _sucks_ |
| 17:21.25 | noob-debian | the nvidia one-liner works 100% of the time? no special parametres needed? |
| 17:21.26 | gans20|malchik | the server is remote, we've outsourfce it |
| 17:21.27 | RichiH | Braindead: i tend to agree with stew there |
| 17:21.28 | Phated | RichiH: I'm quite sure it does. |
| 17:21.34 | RichiH | noob-debian: should (tm) |
| 17:21.37 | stew | gans20|malchik: what version does "dpkg -l libc6" report? |
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| 17:21.45 | Braindead | RichiH: it was kinda ironic. I helped that guy anyway from the start |
| 17:21.53 | PerfDave | noob-debian: 99% perhaps |
| 17:22.09 | noob-debian | thanx again guys |
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| 17:22.29 | Braindead | noob-debian: anyway if you've got any problem we're here. plus debian+nvidia on google will give you a nice tutorial |
| 17:22.48 | gans20|malchik | stew, see privmsg |
| 17:23.10 | craigevil | gans20|malchik cat /etc/debian_version will show what release you are running |
| 17:23.29 | gans20|malchik | craigevil, its 3.1 :) |
| 17:23.33 | gans20|malchik | is it stable? |
| 17:23.33 | stew | gans20|malchik: in the future, please use a pastebin instead of /msging me. you aren't running stable, which menas you should be able to install sun's java directly if you add non-free to your sources |
| 17:23.47 | gans20|malchik | okay |
| 17:23.50 | stew | gans20|malchik: and you should be upgrading your kernel to a 2.6 kernel, /msg dpkg etch upgrade kernel |
| 17:24.06 | stew | gans20|malchik: can you put your sources.list into a pastebin? |
| 17:24.15 | gans20|malchik | stew, sorry for that privmsg, I'll look at kernel updates |
| 17:24.25 | gans20|malchik | stew, how can I get sources.list? |
| 17:24.46 | stew | gans20|malchik: its /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:27.18 | gans20|malchik | stew, http://pastebin.ca/222951 |
| 17:27.54 | craigevil | whay do you have stable and unstable repos? |
| 17:27.58 | craigevil | why* |
| 17:27.59 | stew | gans20|malchik: yeah, so it looks like you are running unstable |
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| 17:28.07 | Braindead | gans20|malchik: where do you get that sources.list? that's infernal |
| 17:28.22 | gans20|malchik | craigevil, I didn't configured that |
| 17:28.29 | cydork | wow stable, testing and unstable |
| 17:28.31 | Braindead | the devil made you do it |
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| 17:29.15 | gans20|malchik | how does the list should look like? |
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| 17:29.47 | Braindead | gans20|malchik: answer the question. who messed up with your sources.list? |
| 17:30.10 | gans20|malchik | Braindead, the man who installed the debian onto the server |
| 17:30.16 | craigevil | if your running Sid comment testing and the stable repos |
| 17:30.19 | Braindead | mmmm maybe we need the sexual harassment panda... |
| 17:30.30 | JordiGH | Heh. This explains why we get Ubuntu questions in here. Slashdot uses the Debian logo for Ubuntu-related news. |
| 17:30.37 | gans20|malchik | Braindead, wtf? the server is up and running successfuly |
| 17:30.49 | cydork | did he say server?? |
| 17:30.57 | cydork | muhahah |
| 17:31.21 | gans20|malchik | very fun |
| 17:31.21 | stew | gans20|malchik: your sources.list is not incorrect, per-se, but stable and testint/unstable should not be mixed. In general, testing/unstable is not really appropriate for a server. |
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| 17:31.30 | stew | gans20|malchik: do you also have a /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 17:31.44 | stew | gans20|malchik: if so, can you put it in a pastebin? |
| 17:31.54 | gans20|malchik | let me check that |
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| 17:32.08 | gans20|malchik | no, no such file |
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| 17:32.13 | Braindead | if not get "that man" to a trial |
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| 17:32.47 | stew | gans20|malchik: in that case you are running unstable, and, in fact, the testing and stable lines are not currently doing anything for you |
| 17:33.04 | gans20|malchik | well, then its okay, isn't it? |
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| 17:33.38 | gans20|malchik | doesn't matter... all I want is to install java to it |
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| 17:33.58 | stew | gans20|malchik: depends on your point of view, but, as i said before, unstable isn't appropriate on a server. you might consider switching your sources to "etch" so that you'll be on stable when etch releases |
| 17:34.18 | Eulex | gans20|malchik, might you have a /etc/apt/apt.conf? |
| 17:34.41 | stew | gans20|malchik: add "non-free" to the end of the sources.list lines and then aptitude update ; then "aptitude install sun-java5-jdk" or -jre instead of -jdk if you just need a jre |
| 17:34.48 | Braindead | gans20|malchik: you sure do know the difference between stable,testing and unstable,don't you? |
| 17:34.50 | gans20|malchik | Eulex, no such file |
| 17:35.15 | Eulex | gans20|malchik, thus you're definitely on unstable. |
| 17:35.32 | Braindead | if he's got 3.1 in debian_version he surely isn't on a proper unstable enviroment anyway |
| 17:35.44 | Eulex | true |
| 17:35.50 | gans20|malchik | Braindead, I don't ... I can understend the meaning since I'm a software developer, but I don't know what thats mean in debian release policy |
| 17:36.42 | Braindead | !releases |
| 17:36.43 | dpkg | somebody said releases was See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. see <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 17:36.54 | cydork | gans20|malchik: did you check what stew said? dpkg -l libc6|tail -n 1 |
| 17:37.00 | gans20|malchik | cydork, yes |
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| 17:37.08 | gans20|malchik | cydork, I've primsg'ed him |
| 17:37.09 | stew | cydork: he did: 2.3.6.ds1-4 |
| 17:37.35 | craigevil | 2.3.6.ds1-7 is the current version in Sid |
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| 17:37.50 | stew | gans20|malchik: i'd strongly recommend that you get rid of all of the lines except for the "stable" lines, but change "stable" to "etch" |
| 17:37.51 | cydork | well it's etch |
| 17:37.58 | Eulex | no, sid has 2.3.6.ds1-7 |
| 17:38.09 | Eulex | etch has 2.3.6.ds1-4 |
| 17:38.11 | sandman | What's the difference between a text file and an encoded text file? |
| 17:38.12 | stew | he's running a slightly out of date sid |
| 17:38.18 | sandman | Does the encoded version contain the codepage in it or something? |
| 17:38.30 | JordiGH | Is it a good idea to do upgrade before dist-upgrade? Right now, both apt-get and aptitude want to make an unholy mess of my Debian if I suggest a dist-upgrade, e.g. removing all of KDE or OO.o (no snarky jokes, please). |
| 17:38.31 | stew | sandman: we'd need more context |
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| 17:38.43 | Eulex | sandman, technically, a text file is always encoded |
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| 17:38.45 | sandman | stew: I'm using AbiWord, and I have the option of saving it as Text, or Text Encoded |
| 17:38.55 | JordiGH | Updating to mixed testing/unstable, btw. Perhaps my fault. |
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| 17:39.06 | stew | JordiGH: use the aptitude frontend |
| 17:39.08 | sandman | Yeah |
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| 17:39.25 | sandman | JordiGH: I've had trouble doing dist-upgrades without aptitude |
| 17:39.28 | JordiGH | stew: You mean, for conflict resolution? Or for what? |
| 17:39.33 | stew | yes |
| 17:39.40 | sandman | What stew is saying. |
| 17:39.42 | sandman | :) |
| 17:39.55 | stew | JordiGH: if you are using the frontend you could tell it to upgrade kde instead of removing it |
| 17:39.59 | gans20|malchik | is this sources.list okay? http://pastebin.ca/222972 |
| 17:40.03 | JordiGH | stew: That sounds like work. But ok. |
| 17:40.14 | Jabka | anyone here knows how switch off touchpad click (i cant find any usefull info in man ) |
| 17:40.46 | stew | gans20|malchik: no, that is not ok, you can't use stable as you've already upgraded to unstable. switch "stable" to "etch" and switch "main" to "main contrib non-free" |
| 17:41.11 | stew | gans20|malchik: oh, get rid of the line that just says "non-free" that should go after "main" |
| 17:41.12 | gans20|malchik | ok |
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| 17:42.12 | sandman | Well, it looks like when I save my file as Encoded Text, it's the same size as normal text. The only difference is that it gives me the option of selecting my encoding, or so it looks. |
| 17:42.18 | JordiGH | Jabka: Do you have a mouse handy you could plug into that lappy? I'm curious to know if xev says something different from touchpad clicks than from real mouse clicks. |
| 17:42.27 | Eulex | JordiGH, synclient |
| 17:42.37 | JordiGH | Eulex? |
| 17:42.40 | Jabka | JordiGH:moment .. |
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| 17:42.52 | aronofsky | hi |
| 17:43.18 | JordiGH | Oh. |
| 17:43.21 | JordiGH | !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 17:43.22 | Jabka | Jordigh: i plug it in how can i check it |
| 17:43.22 | Eulex | JordiGH, synclient can alter X server parameters of the synaptics driver on the fly |
| 17:43.34 | dpkg | xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: (Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org/XFree86 server), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.14.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
| 17:43.48 | JordiGH | Jabka: I think Eulex has a better answer. Try getting this package. |
| 17:44.00 | Jabka | Eulex |
| 17:44.05 | aronofsky | I just tried to upgrade my system and I got some unmet deps ( xserver-xorg-video-apm, xserver-xorg-video-ark ... ). why is that nd what should I do ? |
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| 17:44.41 | lkthomas | anyone running apache:ASP ? |
| 17:44.43 | Eulex | Jabka, you want to disable the touchpad while you're typing? |
| 17:44.50 | gans20|malchik | stew, http://pastebin.ca/222982 now its okay? |
| 17:45.06 | Jabka | Eulex:no i just wanna disablle the click |
| 17:45.23 | sandman | Is oowriter as portage as AbiWord? |
| 17:45.36 | sandman | Or perhaps I should ask: What's the general opinion on AbiWord vs. oowriter? |
| 17:45.39 | Eulex | Jabka, eh, you want to disable it so that you can't click with it? |
| 17:45.48 | dob1 | why it's better to not use the nvidia installer from nvidia.com? |
| 17:46.13 | Jabka | Eulex:yes |
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| 17:46.17 | JordiGH | dob1: Because it sucks. It works against the Debian system. Do you need more detail? |
| 17:46.37 | Eulex | Jabka, no idea if that's possible |
| 17:46.41 | dob1 | JordiGH: you mean that it is not in a dep package? |
| 17:46.46 | dob1 | *deb |
| 17:46.54 | sandman | It appears that Abi loads faster, even when the quickloader for ooffice is loaded... |
| 17:47.01 | Braindead | dob1: it's a shitty installer they cooked up. |
| 17:47.12 | sandman | dob1: Just use module-assistant (apt-get install module-assistant). You can build it that way. |
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| 17:47.22 | JordiGH | dob1: Yep. Or in a broken one, if it's in one. It puts crap in non policy-conforming places and it's just hard to get it work. |
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| 17:47.34 | JordiGH | dob1: You've tried the nvidia one-liner, I take it? |
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| 17:47.47 | dob1 | i was reading about it |
| 17:47.52 | sandman | dob1: I never touch those installers. If I were to use an installer, I'd probably do it in my Gentoo chroot, which I only use for testing purposes (as it breaks often) |
| 17:47.53 | Eulex | Jabka, but I guess setting the FingerHigh parameter of the synaptics to be high enough would have the effect of clicking never ocurring |
| 17:47.54 | dob1 | on dpkg's bot help |
| 17:48.07 | sandman | dob1: And I doubt a chroot would be that useful to you. |
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| 17:49.02 | Eulex | Jabka, to get you right: you still want to be able to move the mouse using the touchpad, but you don't want to be able to click? |
| 17:49.04 | Braindead | dob1: G.W. Bush uses "the google" http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/23/bush-says-he-uses-the-google/ why can't you? just put "debian nvidia" on it |
| 17:49.05 | Jabka | eulex:wount it prevent moving the mouse ? |
| 17:49.09 | dob1 | ok but the help on dpkg about "nvidia one-liner" is for stable, testing or unstable? |
| 17:49.17 | JordiGH | I like Linus: "I want people to wake up in a |
| 17:49.18 | JordiGH | cold sweat every once in a while if they use binary-only modules. |
| 17:49.19 | Jabka | eulex :rh8 |
| 17:49.21 | JordiGH | " |
| 17:49.22 | Braindead | dob1: ask dpkg about nvidia too |
| 17:49.38 | evilbulgarian | hi, Debian ( Testing ) is not recognizing my > 2T partition? I created with parted using gpt label in suse ( which sees the partition fine ) can someone plase help could it be something in the debian kernel? |
| 17:49.46 | dob1 | Braindead: i just read it |
| 17:50.03 | aronofsky | anyone can tell me , I just tried to upgrade my system and I got some unmet deps ( xserver-xorg-video-apm, xserver-xorg-video-ark ... ). whats happening with that ? |
| 17:50.21 | Eulex | Jabka, I'm not sure, the docs state this: "FingerHigh (Integer) When finger pressure goes above this value, the driver counts it as a touch." |
| 17:50.33 | noodl | Hi guys. I'm a regular over in #apache where we frequently get questions from confused debian users. The trouble seems to be debian's apache config being too 'clever'. I understand that the attempt to package 1.3 and 2.0 in such a way to make them concurrently installation is a challenge, but I also read that this is being ditched for the 2.2 package. |
| 17:51.16 | Eulex | Jabka, man synaptics for some possibly interesting reading |
| 17:51.20 | noodl | Could anybody suggest the right path for requesting that the debian 2.2 package not rename every binary and every config file so that the apache.org docs aren't completely alien to debian apache users? |
| 17:51.27 | Jabka | Eulex: ill try to change it to 0 but how can i know what is the integer now? |
| 17:51.38 | Jabka | eulex:im in man syna[tics now |
| 17:51.51 | Eulex | Jabka, synclient can change driver parametres on the fly |
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| 17:52.37 | Jabka | eulex:but hoe i know what is the parameter before the change (to chage it back if something go wrong) |
| 17:53.06 | JordiGH | noodl: I think you'd best make that kind of request as a bug report in the bts. Good luck being heard, though. The name changes of config files and binaries may be necessary in order to conform to Debian policy. |
| 17:53.13 | JordiGH | !bts |
| 17:53.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 17:53.16 | Braindead | noodl: 98% of the problems could be solved by reading /usr/share/doc/apache*/README.Debian* anyway |
| 17:53.42 | Eulex | Jabka, note that you should set FingerHigh high if anything; it's a threshold for what should be considered a 'touch'. if something goes below that value, it'll not be considered a 'touch'. |
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| 17:53.52 | noodl | Ok thanks both. I didn't know that files existed, cheers Braindead. |
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| 17:54.03 | Eulex | Jabka, synclient -l lists the current settings |
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| 17:54.39 | Jabka | euelex im getting this error :Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? |
| 17:54.40 | Jabka | \when running -l |
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| 17:55.28 | Eulex | Jabka, you need to enable SHMConfig on the X config for you touchpad. this would suggest that you haven't set it up at all correctly in your xorg.conf. |
| 17:55.42 | aronofsky | id really lijke to understand why xorg package is broken and what i should do, upgrade with the default solution or wait until upgrade is possible ? |
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| 17:56.29 | Eulex | Jabka, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad contains some nice info on setting it up correctly [just ignore the emerge stuff] |
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| 17:57.33 | Jabka | <Eulex> i didn't, all worked "from the box" so i didn't change a bit |
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| 17:57.49 | Jabka | oo thnx for the howto im going to read it now |
| 17:57.57 | Eulex | Jabka, debian won't setup the touchpad in any special way by default. |
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| 17:58.52 | aronofsky | if anyone here can answer about the xorg debian package where should I ask ? |
| 17:59.08 | groogs_ | i'm having some issues with sudo .. sudo -l shows me: (root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/mount /mnt/orphansbackup .. yet when i run sudo /sbin/mount /mnt/orphansbackup, it asks me for a password.. i'm trying to do this from a script, so its screwing things up. any ideas? |
| 17:59.08 | azeem | aronofsky: ask here |
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| 17:59.46 | JordiGH | Eh? What's Dunc Tank? |
| 17:59.55 | Eulex | aronofsky, if you don't give the exact error and what debian version you are on, people in here won't be able to help you. |
| 18:00.08 | slid3r | hello gents ... I have a VERY old lap top, I can't throw it away, it still works. I have sucessfully install DSL (damn small linux) on it, problem is, there is no real way to network it, or get an internet connection sooo ... my question is, (it is a debian based distro) how can I get apt installed on it and packages (such as cpp g++ build-essentials) on it? |
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| 18:00.17 | JordiGH | !dunc tank |
| 18:00.27 | aronofsky | azeem, i try to upgrade and xorg package seems to be broken ( unmet deps ) , what i should do, upgrade with the default solution or wait until upgrade is possible ? ( im on testing btw ) |
| 18:00.33 | Jabka | OT if i dont know if a byte is signed or unsigned how can i know if it is postive ? |
| 18:00.36 | JordiGH | !based on debian |
| 18:00.37 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 18:01.07 | JordiGH | Or DSL. |
| 18:01.17 | slid3r | dude dont l33t me |
| 18:01.23 | slid3r | ah fuggit, I shoulda known better |
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| 18:01.39 | JordiGH | slid3r: What's wrong with a minimal Debian install? How much space in your old lappy? |
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| 18:01.57 | azeem | aronofsky: ask the channel, not me |
| 18:02.00 | azeem | I'm offline now |
| 18:02.23 | Ronin | JordiGH: guess they'd rather have a temper tantrum |
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| 18:03.09 | JordiGH | Btw, what does l33t as a verb mean? |
| 18:03.13 | JordiGH | !l33t |
| 18:03.14 | dpkg | Plz uze #debian-l33t 4 hlp in l33t !! U wud get m0re helpz their !!! lol L33t speakers, please use #debian-l33t for help in the l33t dialect. You will get much more help there. |
| 18:03.41 | JordiGH | Hm. I'm not enlightened. |
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| 18:04.22 | aronofsky | ok so im on testing andI got some umet deps ( xserver-xorg-video-apm , xserver-xorg-video-ark ... ) when i try to upgrade xorg today , can anyone tell me whats happening exactly and what is the best thing to do in this particular situation ? |
| 18:05.03 | JordiGH | aronofsky: does aptitude know how to fix your unmet dependencies? |
| 18:05.56 | NiCeBoY | hi anyone can tell me how i can know whether my debian is up to date please? |
| 18:06.29 | aronofsky | actually the solution for aptitude is to uninstall xserver-xorg-video-all, it doesnt seem to be such a great solution , does it ? |
| 18:06.40 | Braindead | NiCeBoY: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:06.52 | NiCeBoY | ok trying.. |
| 18:07.11 | JordiGH | aronofsky: Uh, aptitude only offered one solution? I doubt that. |
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| 18:07.25 | Jabka | where can i find non-free for amd64 ? |
| 18:07.33 | Braindead | anyway removing the "all" metapackage isn't critical |
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| 18:08.27 | ton | nic.mx is redirect dns on cdmon and cdmon redirect on my web site, why can not see my web site ? |
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| 18:08.29 | aronofsky | Braindead, what does it contain , video driver , right ? |
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| 18:08.53 | gans20|malchik | how can I add a new user on debian? |
| 18:09.10 | aronofsky | gans20|malchik, as on any other linux system , useradd |
| 18:09.17 | eyeris | gans20|malchik go to the console/xterm as root, run useradd or adduser |
| 18:09.17 | cydork | JordiGH: <-- nosy :P |
| 18:09.19 | Jabka | gans20|malchik: man useradd |
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| 18:09.30 | gans20|malchik | okay |
| 18:09.33 | Braindead | aronofsky: nope,it's a metapackage that forces the installation of all xorg video drivers |
| 18:10.19 | aronofsky | Braindead, ok thx , and its just temporary , complete upgrade will be possible when package will be available right ? |
| 18:10.47 | JordiGH | cydork: I got an angry email in the mailing lists from "a small but vocal minority" (according to Ian Murdock) protesting Dunc Tank. I don't get it. What do they have against money? Ok, fine, they explain what they have against it, but the explanation is long, and I want the skinny. |
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| 18:11.01 | Braindead | aronofsky: it's likely. remember this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum_grano_salis |
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| 18:11.31 | eyeris | If I want to a package optimized for i686, is it safe to just install it from apt-get source? |
| 18:11.54 | aronofsky | Braindead, lol |
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| 18:12.09 | Braindead | eyeris: apt-build. or #gentoo is that way -> |
| 18:12.18 | JordiGH | eyeris: If you think you're smarter than the package maintainer and you want to compile the *.orig.tar.gz source, then yes. |
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| 18:12.29 | JordiGH | !gentoosmite eyeris |
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| 18:13.06 | cydork | JordiGH: well check the mailing lists. and you will find enough things to read :P |
| 18:13.09 | NiCeBoY | please anyone can tell me how to install 0.47-4sarge5 because am getting this error message when installing courrier "courier-authlib: Conflicts: courier-authmysql but 0.47-4sarge5 is to be installed" |
| 18:13.20 | aronofsky | other thing , if I read right testing provides now xorg 7.1 , so it has now native aigls support , right ? |
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| 18:13.38 | Charminthemoose | are there any pictures of hans lerman,creator of loadlin? |
| 18:13.38 | lunitik | aronofsky: yes |
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| 18:14.00 | Braindead | Charminthemoose: you wanna wank on them? |
| 18:14.01 | aronofsky | lunitik, good to hear |
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| 18:14.24 | lunitik | aronofsky: if you say so... I don't know if compiz is around though... |
| 18:14.37 | Charminthemoose | Braindead:No |
| 18:14.48 | aronofsky | lunitik, i searched, it doesnt seem to be |
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| 18:15.24 | lunitik | aronofsky: then you get no wobbly windows :( |
| 18:15.35 | lunitik | Damn the bad luck |
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| 18:15.56 | NiCeBoY | Braindead any idea man? |
| 18:16.03 | aronofsky | lunitik, yeah too bad but its a first step |
| 18:16.32 | h3sp4wn | aronofsky: take compiz from unstable (maybe nvidia-drivers from experimental) |
| 18:16.51 | Braindead | Charminthemoose: http://web.archive.org/web/20010920110754/elserv.ffm.fgan.de/~lermen/papa2.gif that's 50 bucks for the job |
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| 18:17.15 | lunitik | h3sp4wn: afaik, aiglx doesn't work with proprietary drivers? |
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| 18:17.45 | NiCeBoY | stew : can u tell me how to install 0.47-4sarge5 because am getting this error message when installing courrier "courier-authlib: Conflicts: courier-authmysql but 0.47-4sarge5 is to be installed" |
| 18:18.13 | Charminthemoose | thanks Braindead. |
| 18:18.15 | Charminthemoose | :) |
| 18:18.29 | aronofsky | h3sp4wn, im not that fan of apt sources mixing |
| 18:19.08 | Karpio | /list |
| 18:19.17 | Karpio | /help |
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| 18:19.50 | JordiGH | !tell Karpio about guidelines |
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| 18:21.00 | h3sp4wn | lunitik: the beta nvidia drivers support texture_from_pixmap |
| 18:21.12 | aronofsky | is it that hard to compile compiz from source ? |
| 18:21.28 | JordiGH | Firefox 2 (and its artwork) looks nice. I do hope IceWeasel compares favourably. |
| 18:21.28 | gans20|malchik | where's the best place to define JAVA_HOME in debian? |
| 18:21.29 | h3sp4wn | lunitik: Not technically aiglx (unless you mean just literally meaning accelerated indirect X) |
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| 18:22.32 | pdanski | hello, when i do 'ps auxw' i see PID %CPU etc.. AND also TIME -> what does theTIME stuff say? i see for example: 00:37 for one process and for another i see 00:00 .. |
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| 18:23.03 | JordiGH | User time and system time? I never use w myself, though. |
| 18:23.04 | dazjorz | Hey |
| 18:23.13 | dazjorz | When I FTP to my server, I get this message: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection |
| 18:23.28 | dazjorz | I'm using ProFTPd from apt |
| 18:23.29 | JordiGH | Oh, I guess that doesn't matter. It's just wide output. |
| 18:23.52 | Jabka | can i use debian logo inside LUG symbol ? |
| 18:23.54 | dazjorz | Restarting ProFTPd doesn't work? |
| 18:24.16 | JordiGH | Jabka: I believe so. |
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| 18:25.14 | JordiGH | pdanski: I think the time is how much system time it's used (i.e. actual clock cycles that have been devoted to that process by time) and cpu is how many clock cycles are being devoted to it "now" (probably a very small slice of time). |
| 18:25.55 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: it the port listening ? (you are not trying to access port forwarding from inside a lan or anything ? ) |
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| 18:26.23 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: I can connect to the server, I can even login, but after executing 1 command I get the error |
| 18:26.31 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: so that's not the proble |
| 18:26.32 | dazjorz | problem* |
| 18:26.53 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: I can also get the contents of the directory etc. Just right after that it d/c's with 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection |
| 18:27.29 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: what client are you using ? |
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| 18:27.32 | sleek | question .. |
| 18:27.33 | sleek | cat clone.img.* | md5sum ... works fine, cat clone.img.* | sha1sum ... works fine... is there a way to combine this into one uber-command? |
| 18:27.43 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: `ftp` |
| 18:27.53 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: The regular ftp command |
| 18:27.56 | dazjorz | .. on debian |
| 18:28.25 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: all on the same local lan ? |
| 18:28.31 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: Yep. |
| 18:28.55 | Braindead | sleek: md5sum clone.img.* ; sha1sum clone.img.* ? |
| 18:28.56 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: etch / sarge / sid ? |
| 18:28.58 | itchi | I want to add an local deb repo to my apt-proxy. What's the backend url for an local repo? I not find any info about it in the man pages. backends = file://path/to/debs/ I have also make an little shell script to generate that packages.gz file. |
| 18:29.45 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: The syslog says 'identd: started' at exactly the same second that it gives 'proftpd: FTP session opened', then after 4 secs 'mod_delay/0.4: delaying for 1699166 usecs', then 'ProFTPd terminating (signal 11)', then 'FTP session closed'... |
| 18:29.49 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: Stabl |
| 18:29.51 | dazjorz | stable* |
| 18:29.53 | dazjorz | so sarge |
| 18:30.09 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: standalone or from inetd ? |
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| 18:30.42 | lunitik | !test |
| 18:30.43 | dpkg | Sorry, lunitik, I didn't get your test. |
| 18:31.31 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: standalone |
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| 18:31.58 | JordiGH | Is the break between the FSF and Debian documented anywhere? I do love gossip and soap operas, y'know. |
| 18:32.13 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: add 'UseReverseDNS off' 'IdentLookups off' (to /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf) |
| 18:33.16 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: /etc/proftpd.conf .. ok |
| 18:33.18 | dazjorz | :) |
| 18:33.19 | dazjorz | ;) |
| 18:33.48 | Malagmyr | How can I get the headers for kernel-image-2.6-686? VMWare needs them to build its module. |
| 18:34.04 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: done, testing |
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| 18:34.11 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: I would use ncftp as apposed to just ftp (much nicer to use - or any other client) |
| 18:34.17 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: Ok |
| 18:34.30 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: Still gives "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" |
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| 18:34.43 | Braindead | lftp! |
| 18:34.51 | JordiGH | lunitik: Y'know what I've been getting? Randomly switching to a tty from X. |
| 18:34.55 | Charminthemoose | JordiGH:There was a split between the FSF and Debian? |
| 18:34.59 | itchi | On the client side i get the error Failed to fetch http://earth:9999/persorepo/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable |
| 18:35.07 | lunitik | JordiGH: I don't think there was much drama involved... FSF got mad because Debian included contrib and non-free ... Debian decided it should keep them... FSF stopped saying Debian was its recommended distro... |
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| 18:35.24 | itchi | Is it because he not find that backend = file://path/to/deb ? |
| 18:35.33 | lunitik | JordiGH: It would be on the mailing lists for sure though |
| 18:35.43 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: I restarted it, this is the full syslog from the restart: (pastebin, sec) |
| 18:35.44 | JordiGH | lunitik: I thought it was over something sillier, like having debug symbols or not in binaries. |
| 18:36.50 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/223051 |
| 18:36.55 | JordiGH | lunitik: Is it really over contrib and non-free? Debian doesn't consider them to be part of Debian. |
| 18:37.16 | lunitik | JordiGH: they didn't like that debian even has them on the same mirrors... |
| 18:37.47 | JordiGH | lunitik: I should be grepping lists.debian.org then? |
| 18:37.55 | itchi | And the file /var/lib/apt/lists/earth:9999_persorepo_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages is not there. How need i to make that file? |
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| 18:39.42 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: get rid of any modules you aren't specifically using from the config file (the LoadModule lines) |
| 18:39.51 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: just hash them out |
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| 18:40.14 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: you don't have inetd running as well do you ? |
| 18:40.17 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn, ok, sec... |
| 18:40.27 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: err wtf :| its running |
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| 18:40.36 | dazjorz | ps -A | grep inetd: 1154 ? 00:00:00 inetd |
| 18:40.47 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: do you use it for anything ? |
| 18:40.56 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: not that I know of ... |
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| 18:41.48 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: update-rc.d -f inetd remove |
| 18:41.53 | itchi | Or maybe. Is it possible to add an local deb repo to an apt-proxy? I not want to add on each clients the same extra deb that i have. |
| 18:41.58 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: done |
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| 18:42.05 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: restarting proftpd server and trying to login |
| 18:42.08 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: then /etc/init.d/inetd stop |
| 18:42.14 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: already did that :) |
| 18:42.44 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: does it work (without the no dns lookups stuff it takes much longer to connect) |
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| 18:43.24 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: nope, "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection" |
| 18:43.51 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: same thing, ProFTPd terminating (signal 11) |
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| 18:44.15 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: that's a SEGV |
| 18:44.17 | vader-- | hello |
| 18:45.15 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: are you using smp ? |
| 18:45.31 | NiCeBoY | can anyone tell me the use of smartmontools plz? |
| 18:45.59 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: smp? |
| 18:46.11 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: multiple processors (or dual core) |
| 18:46.12 | Braindead | NiCeBoY: /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.Debian /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.gz |
| 18:46.23 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: nope |
| 18:46.29 | stew | NiCeBoY: it appears that you are tyring to mix stable and testing. is this the case? |
| 18:46.35 | vader-- | anyone here using splunk for syslog-ng? |
| 18:46.36 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: tcpwrappers ? |
| 18:46.36 | stew | NiCeBoY: (wrt to your courier problem) |
| 18:46.55 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: not that I know of |
| 18:47.11 | stew | NiCeBoY: since courier-authlib is only in testing and courier-authmysql 0.47-4sarge5 is in stable |
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| 18:47.15 | lesshaste | anyone here ever got sphinx speech to text to work? |
| 18:47.20 | stew | ^testing^testing/unstable |
| 18:47.35 | NiCeBoY | stew am getting this error when i did apt-get install courier-base courier-authdaemon courier-authmysql courier-imap courier-pop |
| 18:47.54 | stew | NiCeBoY: you are mixing testing and stable. you shouldn't |
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| 18:48.22 | NiCeBoY | stew and what i should do in the place of "apt-get install courier-base courier-authdaemon courier-authmysql courier-imap courier-pop" plz/ |
| 18:49.06 | Mitja | !info plz |
| 18:49.11 | h3sp4wn | dazjorz: I have no idea now why that would happen now sorry |
| 18:49.17 | stew | NiCeBoY: do you intend to run stable or testing? |
| 18:49.26 | stew | NiCeBoY: there is nothing wrong with that command |
| 18:49.26 | dazjorz | h3sp4wn: ok ty anyway |
| 18:49.38 | NiCeBoY | stew anyone which works nicely man :) |
| 18:50.19 | stew | NiCeBoY: that would be stable. especially for a mailserver. testing isn't appropriate for servers. what version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 18:51.08 | NiCeBoY | stew i just made an update should have the latest :) |
| 18:51.51 | stew | NiCeBoY: the latest in stable or the latest in testing? |
| 18:52.02 | Malagmyr | Anyone who can tell me where to get the VMWare Server key? It's supposed to be "free," according to their website. Can't find it anywhere, though. |
| 18:52.11 | NiCeBoY | stew oh i only made apg-get... how do i check it plz? |
| 18:52.11 | sandman | apply for it. |
| 18:52.45 | stew | NiCeBoY: "apt-cache policy libc6" look at Installed:. if you don't know basic stuff like this, you really shouldn't be running a server on testing |
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| 18:54.20 | NiCeBoY | stew : table version = "2.3.6.ds1-4 0" & "2.3.2.ds1-22sarge4 0" |
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| 18:54.38 | dx | Hi. I've installed debian 4 unstable/testing. What should I write in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 18:55.14 | stew | NiCeBoY: what version is installed? |
| 18:55.29 | NiCeBoY | stew Installed: 2.3.6.ds1-4 |
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| 18:57.10 | stew | NiCeBoY: you cannot run stable without reinstalling then. Your choices are to reinstall, or complete your partial upgrade to testing by replacing all your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list with sources for "testing" or "etch" (removing any sources for stable or sarge or unstable) and running aptitutde update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:58.02 | NiCeBoY | oh ok |
| 18:58.09 | stew | NiCeBoY: and if you are going to run a server on testing, you should subscribe to the debian-security-announce mailinglist at a minimum |
| 18:58.12 | itchi | With an apt-proxy, can we add there an local deb repo? |
| 18:58.22 | NiCeBoY | yes stew |
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| 18:59.06 | purestorm | Hi. I am about to start a package repository with backports for Ruby On Rails development (since you need current versions of Ruby, lighttpd for it that sarge does not have). I figured out a lot by googling but I could not find "Best Practices" for what to modify in the "debian" directories inside the extracted source packages I retrieved with apt-get source. |
| 18:59.15 | JordiGH | dx: apt-setup didn't offer a list of mirrors for you to choose? |
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| 18:59.36 | dx | JordiGH, I haven't apt-setup installed there. That's the problem. |
| 18:59.48 | purestorm | What should I modify? Should I only prepend information to the changelog? Or is there more to change so things are done the right way. |
| 18:59.59 | JordiGH | purestorm: Hm. Have you not read the new maintainer's guide? |
| 19:00.25 | JordiGH | dx: I thought apt-setup came with the etch installer. It doesn't? :-/ |
| 19:00.51 | purestorm | JordiGH: Which chapters are related to my question in your opinion? I could read them again if you pointed me at them. |
| 19:01.06 | dx | JordiGH, I dunno. Nerver worked before with this new version. But apt is installed. |
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| 19:01.23 | JordiGH | purestorm: I believe the 2nd to 4th chapters give a descriptionf of what should go in the debian/ directory under the source tree. |
| 19:01.51 | JordiGH | purestorm: The other chapters give optional stuff that your package may or may not need. |
| 19:01.54 | itchi | I have some *.deb packages that i want to share on my network. Currently for the packages i use apt-proxy to avoid to many downloads. I want to add an config line to the apt-proxy so that he add my own *.deb (testing) packages. But it think it's not possible to add an local repo. |
| 19:02.11 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 19:02.12 | dpkg | from memory, mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 19:02.35 | JordiGH | dx: At any rate, the format is deb http://mirror testing main |
| 19:02.44 | JordiGH | dx: Where you can get a list of mirrors from |
| 19:02.46 | JordiGH | !mirrors |
| 19:02.46 | dpkg | from memory, debian mirrors is use apt-setup if you are running sarge, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror, or ask me about <apt-spy> |
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| 19:03.07 | purestorm | JordiGH: OK, I'll read through that again. |
| 19:03.15 | purestorm | JordiGH: Thanks. |
| 19:03.16 | abrotman | JordiGH: oyu mean etch ? |
| 19:03.34 | JordiGH | dx: Said ey installed etch, yes. |
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| 19:04.01 | JordiGH | Actually said testing/unstable Debian 4.0, by which I deduced ey meant etch |
| 19:04.18 | JordiGH | abrotman: previous two posts were for you. Ooops. |
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| 19:04.35 | dx | JordiGH, I've tested some mirrors and after update and trying to build-essential it gaves me some errors with gcc and g++ 4 |
| 19:04.52 | JordiGH | Eh? |
| 19:04.56 | JordiGH | !wayc dx |
| 19:04.56 | dpkg | dx: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 19:05.10 | dx | I am not compiling. |
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| 19:05.46 | lunitik | dx: 'apt-get -f install' fixes nothing? |
| 19:06.07 | lunitik | dx: and why do you want build-essential if you're not compiling? |
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| 19:06.51 | abrotman | JordiGH: he probably wants to point his sources at etch .. not testing |
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| 19:07.30 | JordiGH | abrotman: Hm. That's probably true. |
| 19:07.54 | JordiGH | dx: I didn't understand what is it that you were trying to do. Or what you did, for that matter. |
| 19:07.56 | dx | lunitik, At the moment I'm not compiling, but I will. I mean Gcc package version dependences |
| 19:08.00 | intruder_ | i thought there was a debian-live chanel,no? |
| 19:08.05 | abrotman | !livecd |
| 19:08.05 | dpkg | it has been said that livecd is an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/ or http://live.debian.net/ or #debian-live on oftc |
| 19:08.36 | dx | JordiGH, build-essential works now. |
| 19:08.40 | dx | JordiGH, lunitik thanks. |
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| 19:10.01 | dx | JordiGH, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main it works but what's sid ? |
| 19:10.24 | JordiGH | dx: sid is the name of the unstable branch of Debian. Are you sure that's what you want? Do you like bugs? |
| 19:11.03 | dx | JordiGH, No. That's why I'm asking.. |
| 19:11.07 | JordiGH | dx: You mentioned earlier something of a mixed testing/unstable system. That's possible and what I use (but I've been told not to advocate it). |
| 19:12.12 | dx | JordiGH, my /etc/debian_version outputs testing/unstable. |
| 19:12.50 | JordiGH | dx: That's strange. How did you install Debian? |
| 19:13.37 | lunitik | dx: sid is unstable... if you're not familier with Debian, its probably a bad idea to use it |
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| 19:13.39 | abrotman | that's what the etch installer will output |
| 19:14.04 | JordiGH | abrotman: Really? Why? Does the etch installer use stuff from unstable? |
| 19:14.24 | abrotman | it doesn't .. that's just what it puts in /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:14.31 | lunitik | JordiGH: etch installer will output testing/unstable because *gasp* its testing atm |
| 19:14.44 | JordiGH | lunitik: But it's not unstable. |
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| 19:15.17 | JordiGH | dx: At any rate, you probably want to change "sid" either to "testing" or to "etch". |
| 19:15.18 | lunitik | JordiGH: yeah... I'm not sure why abrotman brought that up as dx's souces.list states sid... but whatever |
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| 19:15.27 | abrotman | i didn't |
| 19:15.30 | stew | JordiGH: since packages don't themselves change when they transition from unstable to testing, the /etc/debian_version file says both |
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| 19:15.34 | abrotman | don't blame me jackass |
| 19:15.52 | lunitik | abrotman: haha |
| 19:16.19 | dx | lunitik, sid cames by default at the file.. As in other version a simple apt-setup could solve the problem. But the binary doesn't exists. |
| 19:16.21 | lunitik | abrotman: you confused me damnit... and it appears you confused JordiGH too... damn you |
| 19:16.21 | stew | JordiGH: otherwise the debian archive would have to be reworked so that the package gets rebuilt with a new /etc/debian_version when the package moves from unstable to testing |
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| 19:16.35 | abrotman | lunitik: JordiGH told him to point at testing .. i said to use etch |
| 19:16.42 | JordiGH | stew: I don't get it. It's misleading. It sounds like a mixed system. The fact that the same package happens to be available, oh never mind. I get it now. |
| 19:16.50 | x_link | BAAAH |
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| 19:17.09 | x_link | I have installed Debian twice now. Everytime I'm done and reboot, then it tells me "No Operating System Found" |
| 19:17.12 | Mooi | Hello, are there any applications for creating something like presentations with voice? Something that can have both audio and graphic editor in one, anything? Thanks |
| 19:17.12 | x_link | What the heck is that ? |
| 19:17.31 | pelzi_ | bad bootloader |
| 19:17.36 | pelzi_ | or bad bios settings |
| 19:17.38 | lunitik | x_link: means grub hates you... you tell it to install? |
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| 19:17.43 | Charminthemoose | lilo sucks. |
| 19:17.52 | lunitik | ooo yes, or bad bios config |
| 19:17.54 | x_link | lunitik: I choosed LILO, like I did before when it worked |
| 19:17.55 | JordiGH | x_link: You probably disabled boot from hard drive from BIOS. |
| 19:17.59 | dracflamloc | hey folks. what exactly does the 'standard system' install of debian install? |
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| 19:18.05 | pelzi_ | avoid lilo. |
| 19:18.19 | JordiGH | dracflamloc: Which standard system? |
| 19:18.19 | stew | lilo certainly still has its uses |
| 19:18.20 | x_link | JordiGH: I set it so that CD-ROm will boot first. |
| 19:18.27 | pelzi_ | for what? |
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| 19:18.29 | dracflamloc | i386, latest etch |
| 19:18.33 | Charminthemoose | stew: like what? |
| 19:18.42 | dracflamloc | i'm just curious how much space it takes. and waht exactly it installs |
| 19:18.44 | pelzi_ | lilo is maybe ok for ancient systems. nothing else |
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| 19:18.46 | lunitik | Some arch's can't use GRUB still afaik |
| 19:18.47 | JordiGH | x_link: And you didn't remove the hard drive from boot? "No operating system found" sounds like a BIOs message. |
| 19:18.57 | stew | Charminthemoose: pelzi_: like, i have all of my filesystems inside lvm, including / and /boot |
| 19:19.02 | pelzi_ | well can those arches use lilo either |
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| 19:19.09 | pelzi_ | no, no no, do not do that |
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| 19:19.22 | nayyares | hi guys, which forum is considered as best linux discussion forum? |
| 19:19.24 | pelzi_ | simply create /boot without lvm. |
| 19:19.26 | pelzi_ | problem solved |
| 19:19.32 | stew | or use lilo, problem solved |
| 19:19.35 | lunitik | stew: if /boot wasn't inside LVM, you wouldn't need LILO.... |
| 19:19.44 | pelzi_ | nope. |
| 19:19.50 | lunitik | stew: why would you want /boot in a LVM anyways? |
| 19:19.59 | pelzi_ | do not use your braindead setup as an argument for using lilo. |
| 19:20.05 | Charminthemoose | No operating system found:You have windows.:) |
| 19:20.11 | JordiGH | dracflamloc: The minimal install is... ack, I don't remember. But if you don't install X nor anything else but bash and perhaps nano plus coreutils, I think it fits under 200 megs (don't quote me on this; it's been a while since I've done a base install). |
| 19:20.17 | Mooi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.19 | pelzi_ | I've had /boot inside lvm broken enough times to know to avoid it |
| 19:20.26 | Mooi | JordiGH: for me, its about 250MB on etch |
| 19:20.31 | pelzi_ | so? grub needs to read /boot. |
| 19:20.32 | JordiGH | nayyares: This one, of course. ;-) |
| 19:20.34 | lunitik | Mooi: no one said it was the bootloader |
| 19:20.36 | pelzi_ | if it is on lvm, it can't |
| 19:20.37 | stew | recently i had my hard drive die. it was very easy to replace it by runing pvmove and not having to copy any files myself |
| 19:20.40 | Mooi | k ^^ |
| 19:20.41 | stew | lunitik: pelzi_^^ |
| 19:21.15 | abrotman | nayyares: ##linux ? |
| 19:21.17 | pelzi_ | well you are taking the risk |
| 19:21.17 | stew | Mooi: for grub, /boot also contains part of the bootloader, for lilo it doesn't |
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| 19:21.33 | stew | pelzi_: the risk of having a more easily recoverable system |
| 19:21.48 | pelzi_ | the fact lilo can load a kernel that way is a kind of bug |
| 19:21.52 | nayyares | JordiGH, i am asking non chatting forum, like linuxquestions.org sort of. |
| 19:21.53 | pelzi_ | it shouldn't |
| 19:22.49 | JordiGH | nayyares: What for? What's wrong with linuxquestions.org ? |
| 19:22.51 | lunitik | stew: umm... hard drive died... so you moved data... from the dead drive? |
| 19:22.56 | abrotman | !forums |
| 19:22.57 | dpkg | hmm... forums is http://forums.debian.net/ http://www.debianhelp.org/ http://www.debianplanet.org/, or http://www.debianforums.org (basically dead) |
| 19:23.03 | stew | lunitik: correct |
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| 19:23.27 | stew | lunitik: ok, sorry, s/died/started to die/ |
| 19:24.01 | lunitik | hmm... not in the archive? damnit |
| 19:24.06 | Mooi | Are there any applications for creating something like presentations with voice? Something that can have both audio and graphic editor in one, anything? Thanks |
| 19:24.22 | JordiGH | By the way, why are feathers flying over Dunc Tank? I really don't feel like reading that long email. Are people really against money that much? |
| 19:24.42 | Ronin | JordiGH: some folks just like to bitch it seems |
| 19:25.05 | lunitik | Mooi: I think KOffice's KPresent can do that if you have KDEMultimedia installed? I know OpenOffice.org present can't |
| 19:25.05 | abrotman | JordiGH: that's not the point .. read the damn emails |
| 19:25.07 | Mooi | I want to create some recordings for creating small documentaries about things |
| 19:25.07 | VIm_Enforcer | gb all |
| 19:25.16 | Mooi | lunitik: will try that, thanks |
| 19:25.37 | lunitik | Mooi: its either a planned feature or recent (1.5 or 1.6) |
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| 19:26.02 | rogier | What is setting the LD_PRELOAD variable ? I am having an error that my settings is trying to load a non-existing library. |
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| 19:26.26 | dendrite | Mooi: Other approach is to use something like cinelerra or kino to make a video from stills and audio. |
| 19:27.00 | JordiGH | abrotman: Alright... :-/ |
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| 19:27.39 | Mooi | nice |
| 19:27.52 | JordiGH | abrotman: Ok, now I'm getting the impression that they're just jealous that some people are getting paid but thousands are not. |
| 19:27.54 | sandman | Is there any benefit to using ext2 rather than FAT on a floppy? |
| 19:28.09 | h3sp4wn | sandman: can handle case properly |
| 19:28.10 | JordiGH | sandman: File permission persist! |
| 19:28.32 | JordiGH | sandman: Long file names. |
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| 19:28.40 | Mooi | dendrite: well, I want to simply write some text, add images, maybe move some things around and have ability to record and edit the audio too |
| 19:29.19 | mobile | hello.... |
| 19:29.39 | mobile | plz plz help me ... i ve some problem with my gnome panel and debian etch |
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| 19:30.24 | mobile | all time debian starts gnome panel crashs :( |
| 19:30.24 | lunitik | !ask |
| 19:30.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:30.26 | JordiGH | Lunchtime. Later. |
| 19:31.17 | Guerin | mobile: don't use gnome -> problem solved |
| 19:31.26 | mobile | i have a problem with gnome gnome-panel; im running debian version etch. when i try to start debian/gnome, the panel crashs |
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| 19:32.02 | mobile | if i left click on the panel nothing happens |
| 19:32.48 | dendrite | mobile: If you restart gnome-panel (type it in a shell window) do you see any errors? |
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| 19:33.21 | dendrite | mobile: That's from memory, that gnome-panel is indeed the program that provides the Gnome panel... |
| 19:33.49 | mobile | mhh i get a error the process allready runs |
| 19:33.53 | mobile | (in german) |
| 19:34.30 | dendrite | mobile: Other places to check are the logs, both in /var/log/* and possibly a gnome or X crash log in your home directory. |
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| 19:34.46 | dendrite | mobile: Also create another new test user, and see if that user also suffers from this issue. |
| 19:34.46 | mobile | there is a proceess gnome-panel in the backround |
| 19:35.03 | lunitik | mobile: kill it dead |
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| 19:35.09 | lunitik | mobile: should respawn |
| 19:35.17 | dendrite | mobile: It's possible that it's not actually gnome-panel that's crashed. Doesn't gnomoe use something to paint the desktop and manage all that? |
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| 19:35.38 | dendrite | lunitik: pkill gnome-panel, to effect lunitik's suggestion. |
| 19:36.24 | lunitik | dendrite: gnome-panel is something that gnome-session runs... its a separate program though... |
| 19:36.43 | Charminthemoose | has anyone here done anything like sticking up a page with linus up on their bedroom wall or am I alone on this one? |
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| 19:36.55 | lunitik | dendrite: Nautilus handles drawing of the desktop, and error messages etc... all that kinda stuff |
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| 19:37.20 | dendrite | lunitik: Yeah, that's right. It's been a coon's age since I've run gnome... |
| 19:37.22 | Guerin | Charminthemoose: i reckon a fre million mactards have one of jobs up, but I dunno about linus |
| 19:37.37 | lunitik | dendrite: been a while here too... but yeah |
| 19:38.15 | Charminthemoose | Guerin:Ah,so i'm probably a select few. |
| 19:38.23 | Charminthemoose | :) |
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| 19:38.29 | wols | Charminthemoose: fortunately yes |
| 19:38.39 | Guerin | Charminthemoose: don't be under the delusion that that makes you cool. |
| 19:38.43 | wols | if you don't ask or tell, you could even join the marines |
| 19:38.45 | itchi | If you want to share some deb in an network. Which is the way to proceed? |
| 19:39.10 | lunitik | Charminthemoose: you mean... like... to remember commands? orr? |
| 19:39.10 | mobile | alltime i kill the process gnome-panel it start a new process gnome-panel with the same error |
| 19:39.16 | Guerin | itchi: apt-cacher or apt-proxy or squid |
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| 19:39.24 | mobile | i can disable the panel change somthing or else |
| 19:39.27 | Guerin | mobile: so stop fucking using gnome. |
| 19:39.28 | dendrite | mobile: What error? |
| 19:39.40 | lunitik | mobile: the joys of running unstable... tried looking through BTS? |
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| 19:39.48 | Charminthemoose | WindowMaker FTW! |
| 19:39.53 | Charminthemoose | anyway |
| 19:39.53 | dendrite | mobile: Oh. You're running sid? |
| 19:39.57 | lunitik | Charminthemoose: EWWWW |
| 19:40.05 | itchi | Guerin: Actually i already make use of apt-proxy, to avoid to many downloads for the updates. I have already try to add there an local deb repo, but i fail in it. |
| 19:40.06 | lunitik | dendrite: he already said that |
| 19:40.10 | mobile | im running etch |
| 19:40.29 | lunitik | Meh |
| 19:40.29 | Charminthemoose | lunitik:It's not what you think! |
| 19:40.30 | mobile | i love gnome and debian ... :( but this error sucks |
| 19:40.32 | itchi | Guerin: I have look a bit on the http server, to look a bit how it's organised and so; the pool and so |
| 19:40.46 | Guerin | itchi: oh, you want to make a local repo. There's a howto about it on debian.org someplace |
| 19:40.58 | itchi | Guerin: An local repo on the apt-proxy |
| 19:41.02 | Charminthemoose | when you select webserver in tasksel,does it download mysql and php and whatnot? |
| 19:41.17 | Guerin | itchi: no, a local repo and apt-proxy are two radically different things |
| 19:41.26 | lunitik | Charminthemoose: no idea... selecting preset package lists is not ideal usually |
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| 19:41.30 | itchi | Guerin: Because i not want to add an line in /etc/apt/sources.list on each client an have an copy of the repo on it |
| 19:41.34 | mobile | how can i delete a panel ? left click does nothing in var log i found nothing |
| 19:41.41 | Guerin | Charminthemoose: if you know what you need, why don't you just install it? |
| 19:41.55 | Guerin | mobile: aptitude purge gnome-panel; would be ideal |
| 19:41.58 | itchi | Guerin: btw, i want to make the same thing as whatever deb server |
| 19:42.29 | evilbulgarian | how can i find if my cpu's when i have an i386 version of debian 64 bit? |
| 19:42.52 | itchi | Guerin: So the debs file are currently on an webserver. I did the structuur like every other one. Did the package.gz file. But he always complain about W: Couldn't stat source package list http://earth etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/earth:9999_debs_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 19:43.00 | wols | evilbulgarian: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:43.10 | evilbulgarian | wols: what should i look for tho |
| 19:43.12 | Guerin | itchi: ok, your thinking is unclear. You need to decide whether you want to run a full debian mirror, or whether you want to proxy. Doing both is a waste of time, and using one tool to accomplish the other goal is a waste in a whole lot of ways. |
| 19:43.25 | wols | evilbulgarian: what CPU do you have? |
| 19:43.32 | itchi | Guerin: I think we not talk about the same thing |
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| 19:43.46 | itchi | Guerin: The apt-proxy server is already up and running and working very very well |
| 19:43.55 | Guerin | itchi: so what's the problem? |
| 19:43.56 | evilbulgarian | wols: well Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz is what cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:44.14 | wols | evilbulgarian: EMT64 or such for a flag probably |
| 19:44.15 | itchi | Guerin: Now i want to add some deb files i have made somelse, so that i can easy download it and install it on every client here |
| 19:44.37 | wols | but your CPU is unlikely a 64 bit one |
| 19:44.38 | Guerin | itchi: right, I see. You want a custom repo, not a debian mirror. |
| 19:44.48 | itchi | Guerin: I want to add these file eventually in the apt-proxy. Like these deb files i have made should be are downloadable www |
| 19:44.54 | itchi | Guerin: Yup |
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| 19:45.25 | evilbulgarian | wols: well dont see that but i see address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual |
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| 19:45.37 | itchi | Guerin: I want a bit of the both, if it's not yet downloadable for everyone is not yet so important. Like i need to test some things before |
| 19:45.42 | dracflamloc | is there an apt command to clear out downloaded packages, etc? |
| 19:45.53 | itchi | dracflamloc: apt-get clean |
| 19:45.56 | dracflamloc | thanks |
| 19:45.59 | Guerin | itchi: yeah, it needn't be a public repo. |
| 19:46.01 | Guerin | See |
| 19:46.05 | Guerin | itchi: see http://hausheer.osola.com/docs/14 |
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| 19:46.08 | wols | evilbulgarian: is that a Xeon? |
| 19:46.11 | itchi | Guerin: Thanks ;-) |
| 19:46.14 | evilbulgarian | wols: yeah |
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| 19:46.45 | evilbulgarian | wols: basically wondering which version of debian i should download the amd64 ia64 or i386 for a poweredge 2950 |
| 19:46.53 | itchi | Guerin: That looks like of it |
| 19:47.20 | Charminthemoose | with apache 1.3.33 can i just dump my webpages into the www folder and then start apache up and set the port to 81? |
| 19:47.25 | mobile | mmhh if i start the gnome-panel as root it doesnt crash |
| 19:47.29 | Mooi | evilbulgarian: if that computer is capable of running winXP - i386, if winXP_64 - ia64 |
| 19:47.31 | mobile | but i ve two panels |
| 19:47.34 | pelzi_ | don't run x as root |
| 19:47.35 | Guerin | Charminthemoose: why would you use 81? |
| 19:47.41 | Guerin | except to be difficult |
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| 19:47.52 | evilbulgarian | lunitik: well its not itanium so dont think its ia64 |
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| 19:48.11 | Guerin | mobile: delete your .gnome* dirs in your user's ~ |
| 19:48.23 | Mooi | evilbulgarian: well, doesn't dell provide all the info anyway? |
| 19:48.25 | Charminthemoose | 'cos to change it to port 80 i'd have to fiddle around with default port of my router and whatnot |
| 19:48.29 | Charminthemoose | i can't be arsed |
| 19:48.32 | Charminthemoose | :) |
| 19:48.35 | mobile | what happen if i delete this folder ? |
| 19:48.50 | wols | evilbulgarian: do you really need 64bit stuff? |
| 19:48.51 | mobile | what for data i lost ? |
| 19:49.01 | mobile | only the personal gnome settings ? |
| 19:49.05 | lunitik | evilbulgarian: I think even AMD Opteron is ia64 ... |
| 19:49.07 | Guerin | mobile: it goes to a better place and gnome maybe starts working again. Also check free space on that partition |
| 19:49.17 | biopyte | hi. accidently i just removed some packages and want to install them again. unfortunately i dont the name of all of them. is there a logfile that lists my recent apt-get actions? |
| 19:49.25 | biopyte | know |
| 19:49.28 | Mooi | 64 bit processors are for ia64; AMD's 64-bit is the same as intel's 64 bit |
| 19:49.30 | pelzi_ | sure. |
| 19:49.34 | pelzi_ | history :P |
| 19:49.35 | lunitik | evilbulgarian: amd64 is just the AMD 64 low end chips afaik |
| 19:49.47 | Mooi | biopyte: /var/log/apt or dpkg or something.. |
| 19:49.58 | wols | evilbulgarian: it's a 5100 Xeon, of course it has EMT64 |
| 19:49.58 | biopyte | Mooi, thanks |
| 19:50.14 | evilbulgarian | wols, lunitik: k so ia64 in that case ? |
| 19:50.24 | wols | lunitik: IA64 is a totally different arhcitecture |
| 19:50.29 | evilbulgarian | wols, lunitik: or amd64 |
| 19:50.31 | wols | evilbulgarian: no. IA64 = itanium |
| 19:50.50 | Charminthemoose | anyone? |
| 19:50.52 | Mooi | wait |
| 19:50.56 | Mooi | IA64 = itanium |
| 19:50.59 | wols | evilbulgarian: how much ram do you have? |
| 19:51.03 | Kobaz | anyone know how to change the default sound player for gnome |
| 19:51.18 | Mooi | X86-64 = anything 64-bit such as EMT64 and AMD's 64bit |
| 19:51.24 | wols | evilbulgarian: any why would you actually need 64bit computing? |
| 19:51.41 | Guerin | god, why is this i'm-too-stupid-to-make-gnome-not-be-shit day? |
| 19:51.45 | lunitik | Kobaz: System > Preferences > Default Applications or something ... or Multimedia System depending what you mean |
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| 19:52.05 | lunitik | Guerin: gnome is shit on any day... ;) |
| 19:52.14 | Guerin | lunitik: you needn't tell me |
| 19:52.16 | Kobaz | lunitik: yeap |
| 19:52.18 | Mooi | lunitik: is the new go |
| 19:52.20 | Mooi | god * |
| 19:52.20 | Mooi | ;D |
| 19:52.29 | Kobaz | trying to change the sound app that thunderbird uses to play the incoming mail sound |
| 19:52.48 | Kobaz | lunitik: in gnome-control-center i see preferred applications but it just has web browser, email client, and terminal |
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| 19:52.53 | lunitik | Kobaz: Thunderbird uses GTK widgets... has NOTHING to do with Gnome |
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| 19:53.06 | Kobaz | lunitik: i figured it uses the gnome backend? |
| 19:53.16 | Kobaz | for settings and things |
| 19:53.16 | lunitik | Kobaz: Gnome folks don't like it when you change settings... so I dunno |
| 19:53.17 | zinx | it probably does on debian |
| 19:53.22 | Guerin | Kobaz: progagbly gets defined in tbird someplace |
| 19:53.22 | zinx | well, not for settings |
| 19:53.32 | lunitik | Kobaz: no... I don't even think it makes Gconf keys |
| 19:53.34 | zinx | but for filesystem/printing stuff.. |
| 19:53.41 | Guerin | Kobaz: since tbird needs to work outside gnome and such |
| 19:53.45 | Kobaz | yeah |
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| 19:54.05 | Kobaz | but many apps work fine outside of gnome but use the gnome subsystem for config settings and storage |
| 19:54.07 | lunitik | zinx: Thunderbird has gnome-vfs support? I thought only Firefox did? |
| 19:54.21 | lunitik | zinx: in either case, its not there by default |
| 19:54.22 | zinx | lunitik: i don't know... i know firefox does, it's not a leap to think thunderbird might :/ |
| 19:54.54 | Kobaz | anyway the sound player... it plays a custom wav just fine, but i gives off a chirp at the end that is not in the wav |
| 19:54.56 | Kobaz | it's quite annoying |
| 19:55.20 | Guerin | Kobaz: well, it is thunderBIRD |
| 19:55.23 | lunitik | zinx: there is no thunderbird-gnome-support here or similar, so I don't know.... note that firefox is default browser on gnome desktops, but thunderbird is rarely used on those boxes... usually evolution instead |
| 19:55.24 | Kobaz | haha |
| 19:55.34 | Kobaz | Guerin: no it's not a bird chirp :P |
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| 19:56.29 | mobile | okay i delete the folder and restart the pc .... . |
| 19:57.10 | lunitik | Why the hell are there so many issues with it if its supposed to Just Work? |
| 19:57.10 | asg | lunitik: it does if you don't try to configure it |
| 19:57.11 | Mooi | gnome and xfce4 "just work" here |
| 19:57.19 | lunitik | asg: true |
| 19:57.34 | Guerin | lunitik: simplicity in the front, complecity in the back |
| 19:57.45 | lunitik | Guerin: like a mullet? :P |
| 19:57.55 | Guerin | heh |
| 19:58.01 | asg | haha |
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| 19:58.11 | grandy | hello... any suggestions on where i'd learn how to manually patch a file? the patch doesn't work but it should, and apparently manually patching it works but i don't quite understand what the lines in the diff mean |
| 19:58.16 | Tortel | hmm, my computer doesnt let me log into it through SCP |
| 19:58.17 | GoAuLd | yeah gnome is a crap! |
| 19:58.35 | Guerin | grandy: #language |
| 19:58.36 | asg | grandy: man patch |
| 19:58.43 | grandy | asg: thanks! |
| 19:58.46 | Guerin | grandy: so like #c if it's in c, for instance |
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| 20:00.05 | asg | lunitik: /whois GoAuLd |
| 20:00.48 | wols | lunitik: he'S evil. the name already proves it |
| 20:00.49 | lunitik | asg: Not terribly enlightening... although I see he's in #debian-kde :P |
| 20:00.58 | lunitik | wols: ha... true |
| 20:01.07 | GoAuLd | my name is jack o'neill |
| 20:01.10 | GoAuLd | :) |
| 20:01.18 | zinx | two l's? |
| 20:01.22 | wols | O'Neill IS evil |
| 20:01.31 | wols | He's no McGyver that's for sure |
| 20:01.53 | zinx | he is when he has the knowledge of the ancients in his mind |
| 20:02.08 | GoAuLd | lol |
| 20:02.10 | wols | he was born like this. look at how grumpy he is |
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| 20:02.59 | Kobaz | Guerin: www.kobaz.net/thunderbird.wav |
| 20:03.14 | Kobaz | is the extra sound that thunderbird adds after a custom new-email wav |
| 20:03.15 | dracflamloc | woot |
| 20:03.19 | Digamma | What is the command you use for apt when you have the file downloaded and on your HD |
| 20:03.24 | dracflamloc | i installed etch onto my USB flash drive =D |
| 20:03.29 | Robert | Has anyone else experienced problems with the new X.org packages in testing/x86? |
| 20:03.38 | lunitik | Digamma: dpkg -i some.deb |
| 20:03.40 | Digamma | apt-what filename.deb? |
| 20:03.43 | Digamma | thanks |
| 20:03.46 | GoAuLd | if my host were samantha carter you wont say that |
| 20:03.51 | Guerin | Kobaz: listening to it would require me to stop listening to this hungarian dude murdering his violin |
| 20:03.58 | Guerin | so I'll have to apss, sorry |
| 20:04.04 | Kobaz | haha |
| 20:04.42 | lunitik | Guerin: hahahha |
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| 20:05.19 | Tortel | could anybodt think of a reason why my debian system keeps timing out when I try and use SCP to connect to it? |
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| 20:05.44 | Kobaz | Tortel: it's rejecting the connection without sending an icmp error back |
| 20:05.52 | blondie | lunitik: do people whack you on the back with them then? |
| 20:05.53 | the_mug | lunitik: can you help me with this: http://pastie.caboo.se/private/o204tofqrzevglmzu9 |
| 20:05.57 | blondie | *BAM* guitar |
| 20:05.59 | Kobaz | so anyways |
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| 20:06.10 | Tortel | Kobaz: why would it be doing that? |
| 20:06.13 | Kobaz | to whoever downloaded the thunderbird.wav... any ideas? |
| 20:06.23 | rogier | What set the LD_PRELOAD variable ? I'm having errors that a library ( e_precache.so) cannot be found that is listed in the LD_PRELOAD variable. |
| 20:06.26 | lunitik | blondie: no... they just... send shivers up my spine... |
| 20:06.28 | Kobaz | Tortel: maybe you have iptables rules blocking port 22? maybe your usp does? |
| 20:06.33 | blondie | up? that's rare |
| 20:06.35 | lunitik | the_mug: why you asking someone specific? |
| 20:06.38 | Kobaz | s/usp/isp |
| 20:06.38 | Guerin | lunitik: you know a bass is a string instrument |
| 20:06.44 | asg | rogier: grep for it in /etc |
| 20:07.18 | asg | Guerin: Big Mouth Billy Bass? |
| 20:07.21 | blondie | a bass is a fish |
| 20:07.30 | the_mug | lunitik: no reason except you've helped me with issues of this sort before. however if you can't/won't then I understand too. |
| 20:07.30 | rogier | asg, good idea, will try |
| 20:07.32 | lunitik | the_mug: apt-cache search ram disk create or something... I have no idea what's in stable |
| 20:07.33 | abrotman | a bass is a fish and an instrument |
| 20:07.34 | Guerin | hm, we don't get the fishwise bass in NZ |
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| 20:07.38 | abrotman | and a vocal level |
| 20:07.43 | asg | abrotman: and a beer, don't forget |
| 20:07.43 | abrotman | among other things |
| 20:07.48 | abrotman | asg: mmm .. beer |
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| 20:07.54 | asg | pubfi \o/ |
| 20:07.58 | abrotman | :pubtime |
| 20:08.00 | abrotman | !pubtime |
| 20:08.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
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| 20:08.09 | x_link | So... can somebody tell me what I could do, like I said I have installed Debian on my hard drive, but when I reboot it tells me "No Operating System Found" |
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| 20:08.29 | robin_z | x_link, it hasnt installed grub |
| 20:08.46 | robin_z | or at least not where the computer is configured to look for bootable devices |
| 20:08.50 | x_link | robin_z: No, cause I choosed LILO insted. |
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| 20:09.00 | robin_z | x_link, do you have mroe than one HD? |
| 20:09.05 | x_link | Nope. |
| 20:09.08 | robin_z | hmm |
| 20:09.11 | robin_z | oh well. |
| 20:09.27 | x_link | Before I installed Debian I changed the BIOS to boot from the CD-ROM first. |
| 20:09.35 | x_link | But that can't be the reason? |
| 20:09.38 | robin_z | right ... |
| 20:09.41 | Kobaz | plebian |
| 20:09.50 | robin_z | well, change it to boot from the HD again |
| 20:10.12 | x_link | robin_z: But it wasn't on Boot From HD before either. |
| 20:10.23 | x_link | Moveable Device |
| 20:10.29 | x_link | Or something like that. |
| 20:10.33 | x_link | But I will try something out now. |
| 20:10.36 | robin_z | well, then it probably works fine now |
| 20:10.59 | x_link | This is strange as hell. |
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| 20:11.07 | robin_z | not really |
| 20:11.20 | lunitik | the_mug: make that 'apt-cache search ramfs' ... if you see 'initramfs-tools' install it |
| 20:11.21 | robin_z | set it to boot from HD and then get back to us |
| 20:11.23 | x_link | It's strange for me cause I don't know the reason. |
| 20:11.31 | x_link | Okey. |
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| 20:11.42 | x_link | robin_z: Thanks ALOT man, I really appreciate the help. |
| 20:11.44 | x_link | brb |
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| 20:12.32 | lunitik | the_mug: I think there was something else being used in sarge for that though, so not really sure... |
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| 20:13.25 | Saafii | hello guys |
| 20:13.35 | lunitik | @hi Saafii |
| 20:13.36 | ravenbird | Many greetings, Saafii, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 20:13.47 | Saafii | Tell me which Laptop is the best for Debian |
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| 20:13.57 | Saafii | any ideas |
| 20:14.19 | lunitik | The one that umm... has a keyboard? |
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| 20:14.44 | Saafii | noo really |
| 20:14.49 | heiner | Saafii: I use an older Fujitsu-Siemens |
| 20:14.55 | lunitik | Saafii: Most should work... look around for one you want, and search the internet to see if people have had issues... |
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| 20:15.06 | craigevil | Dells, or Lenovo work quite well |
| 20:15.15 | Saafii | i think to buy Acer |
| 20:15.29 | Saafii | someone try Acer + Debian |
| 20:15.36 | lunitik | Saafii: ok... now go ask google if people have issues with that.... |
| 20:15.42 | Saafii | oki |
| 20:15.49 | craigevil | take a livecd to the store and see how well it works |
| 20:15.57 | Tortel^ | Kobaz: how can I check if iptables blocked port 22? my router is coming up with no errors, and the computer is showing the information of the computer that I am tring to connect with |
| 20:16.08 | Saafii | oki I will take Knoppix |
| 20:16.10 | dracflamloc | are there any guides to 'lighten' debian? trying to get a fully functional X system with fluxbox going but dont want to take much spce on my flash drive |
| 20:16.12 | lunitik | craigevil: ahhh... thats not _that_ bad an idea... hah |
| 20:16.13 | Saafii | to test it |
| 20:16.24 | Guerin | dracflamloc: how much space? |
| 20:16.24 | lunitik | craigevil: they don't get mad about that? |
| 20:16.24 | h3sp4wn | dracflamloc: strip the locales |
| 20:16.28 | moreati | Having downloaded a deb-src for mesa and made a change to the unpacked sources, how should I compile my own deb? |
| 20:16.34 | dracflamloc | where are those located? |
| 20:16.43 | craigevil | Just ask first, ive been able to do it at Best Buy |
| 20:16.46 | Guerin | moreati: use checkinstall or run debian/rules binary |
| 20:17.46 | moreati | Guerin: thankyou, I'd been looking at dpkg-* |
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| 20:18.04 | h3sp4wn | moreati: you can use debuild as well |
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| 20:18.50 | dracflamloc | h3sp4wn: do you know a way to strip them out? |
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| 20:19.30 | h3sp4wn | dracflamloc: not off the top of my head (I have done it before though) |
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| 20:21.07 | Saafii | anybody knows a channel about Laptop+Linux disscusion |
| 20:21.08 | Saafii | ? |
| 20:21.18 | h3sp4wn | dracflamloc: localepurge (that is what you use to do it) |
| 20:21.20 | dracflamloc | so does anyone know how to remove unneeded locales from debian? |
| 20:21.25 | dracflamloc | oh ok |
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| 20:22.37 | biopyte | using e16 wm here. debian writes the menu files, but i dont want *all* the stuff in my desktop menus. when i remove some entries from the menus everything is fine until the next 'apt-get upgrade'. then all the unwanted stuff is there again. how can i tell debian that i dont want certain entries in my desktop menus neverever? |
| 20:22.39 | moreati | Saafii: maybe checkout tuxtops, linuxcertified, toxmobil & linux emporium |
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| 20:24.55 | mobile | helle here i am again ... |
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| 20:25.43 | mobile | my gnome panel crashs.... i delete the .gnome* folder, and nothing happens |
| 20:25.51 | Guerin | !nothing happens |
| 20:25.56 | Guerin | nothing? |
| 20:26.03 | mobile | the gnome panel crash |
| 20:26.17 | Guerin | moreati: check BTS, in the mean time, don't use gnome |
| 20:26.22 | Guerin | mobile: |
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| 20:26.42 | mobile | i delete the folder after a restart the panel crashs again |
| 20:27.07 | mobile | i see the panels but i cant change nothing remove or delete anything |
| 20:27.21 | dracflamloc | h3sp4wn: the only locales i have are en-US so thats as good as it can get |
| 20:27.27 | moreati | Guerin: :) |
| 20:27.53 | Guerin | !tell mobile about bts |
| 20:28.07 | dracflamloc | h3sp4wn: any other ideas? |
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| 20:28.25 | h3sp4wn | dracflamloc: If you use squashfs (and a unionfs overlay) you can make it alot smaller |
| 20:28.30 | Guerin | dracflamloc: remove documentation |
| 20:28.45 | Guerin | dracflamloc: make syslog rotate logs aggressively |
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| 20:29.15 | dracflamloc | guerin: how do you make it do that. |
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| 20:29.57 | Guerin | dracflamloc: you configure it? man syslog |
| 20:30.04 | dracflamloc | k. |
| 20:30.08 | com4 | i'm using suspend2 and powernowed on my laptop. everytime i suspend my laptop, my cpu's scale to 100% and won't scale back down (core duo)... anyone know why? |
| 20:30.26 | mobile | plz help me |
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| 20:30.55 | Guerin | com4: because powermanagement is a nightmare for developers who don't have propper spec |
| 20:31.11 | com4 | Guerin: heh that's what i figured |
| 20:31.13 | Guerin | mobile: you have been fucking helped |
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| 20:31.38 | LOVE_amanda | Is it possible when i get apt-get amanda-client that amanda overwrite my postfix config file? |
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| 20:31.48 | Guerin | mobile: now for the love of the dear and fluffy lord, go and check the BTS, and if you can't make it qwork, switch to something other than fucking gnome |
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| 20:31.50 | mobile | guerin: plz ? |
| 20:32.00 | Guerin | !plz |
| 20:32.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 20:32.13 | Guerin | mobile: i fail to see what a german postcode has to do with anything |
| 20:32.20 | mobile | no i doesnt switch |
| 20:32.20 | mobile | i love gnome |
| 20:32.30 | Guerin | mobile: well, carry on loving it then |
| 20:32.41 | Guerin | mobile: but you have your answer: check the fucking BTS |
| 20:32.52 | lunitik | mobile: CHECK BTS ... FILE BUGS ... things don't fix themselves... |
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| 20:33.03 | lunitik | awww.. he left |
| 20:33.08 | Guerin | a damn shame |
| 20:33.30 | LOVE_amanda | Is it possible when i get apt-get amanda-client that amanda overwrite my postfix config file? |
| 20:33.55 | lunitik | !repeat |
| 20:33.55 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:34.00 | magnet | LOVE_amanda: possible? yep. likely? nope |
| 20:34.09 | LOVE_amanda | huh :) |
| 20:34.32 | um | hello, i wonder why i get an Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header. Which one is the preferences file for aptitude? |
| 20:34.50 | smacnay | Where does Debian now have all the network config files for setting up dhcp? |
| 20:34.53 | lunitik | um: ummm... /etc/apt/preferences :/ |
| 20:35.06 | um | lunitik ahhh |
| 20:35.08 | magnet | smacnay: /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 20:35.18 | smacnay | My machine should be getting an address from my hw router but is getting one that is not even close. |
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| 20:35.35 | magnet | smacnay: or /etc/dhcp3 if you're talking about dhcp itself |
| 20:35.37 | lunitik | magnet: depends if default now installs resolvconf :/ |
| 20:35.58 | lunitik | magnet: resolvconf moves things around and generally makes a huge mess imo |
| 20:36.20 | daedalus_ | smacnay: Id you have multiple DHCP servers, there's not much you can do about that on the client side. I'd investigate and see if you've got a dhcp server hiding somewhere else |
| 20:36.26 | magnet | lunitik: huh, well fortunately I don't use it :) |
| 20:36.30 | smacnay | magnet: no, I see that my /etc/network/interfaces should be assigning my box 192.168.0.2 |
| 20:37.06 | magnet | smacnay: ? what do you mean? |
| 20:37.06 | lunitik | smacnay: it should just say 'inet auto dhcp' or something... no ip's |
| 20:37.12 | magnet | yep |
| 20:37.14 | magnet | no static |
| 20:37.24 | magnet | or static and an alias dhcp'd if you wish |
| 20:37.40 | LOVE_amanda | !paste |
| 20:37.43 | smacnay | daedalus_: only dhcp server is my hw router but it should not be assigning my box anything... if anything it should be 192.168.0.100->199 |
| 20:37.48 | lunitik | !paster |
| 20:37.51 | dpkg | well, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 20:37.51 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 20:38.16 | magnet | smacnay: you don't want dhcp or you do want dhcp? |
| 20:38.17 | magnet | :) |
| 20:38.35 | smacnay | magnet: do not want it. I want my box to have a static address. |
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| 20:38.57 | magnet | then in /etc/network/interfaces it should be something like iface eth0 inet static |
| 20:39.12 | smacnay | I want my hw to forward certain ports to my static box on the network. |
| 20:39.15 | magnet | with the address, netmask and gateway values |
| 20:39.44 | magnet | yeah well that's something else; you need to config your natbox to do that |
| 20:40.07 | magnet | it could still do that even if it's using dhcp (depending on the software on the box) |
| 20:40.59 | smacnay | magnet: got that |
| 20:41.55 | smacnay | magnet: for some reason my box is not getting the address it should be from /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:42.01 | smacnay | brb |
| 20:42.04 | magnet | k |
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| 20:43.26 | tuxedup | If use apt-get source packagename to pull down the debsource for the package, where is the debsource stored? |
| 20:43.40 | magnet | $PWD |
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| 20:44.32 | jdhoreOTG | i have a question...how do i enable sudoing (or add myself to the sudoers list) in Debian? |
| 20:44.36 | magnet | jdhoreOTG: visudo |
| 20:45.08 | jdhoreOTG | just type that command as root and it'll let me dd myself to the sudoers list? |
| 20:45.12 | jdhoreOTG | *add |
| 20:45.21 | magnet | jdhoreOTG: you either create a sudoers group (e.g: wheel) or add your user just like root's line if you want root powers |
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| 20:45.44 | magnet | nope jdhoreOTG it will launch $EDITOR /etc/sudoers and check the file syntax when you save :) |
| 20:45.45 | jdhoreOTG | ok, i'll try that out |
| 20:45.52 | anabain | how can I force installation of a package if I'm usong apt-get install method? |
| 20:46.11 | jdhoreOTG | bbiab...need a reboot |
| 20:46.14 | magnet | anordby: apt-get --force |
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| 20:46.34 | magnet | woops |
| 20:46.35 | magnet | nvm |
| 20:46.57 | anabain | magnet, this doesn't work, :( |
| 20:47.05 | magnet | anordby: you have to get the .deb and use dpkg --force-something |
| 20:47.15 | magnet | what do you wanna force? |
| 20:47.28 | anabain | installing vlc |
| 20:47.45 | magnet | yeah but what's the prob? |
| 20:47.50 | anabain | it's weird, but I have a dependencies problem... |
| 20:48.02 | anabain | packages required are *too new*, it seems |
| 20:48.07 | anabain | weird thing... |
| 20:48.11 | magnet | lol |
| 20:48.24 | magnet | did you try with aptitude? sometimes it resolves things by itself |
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| 20:48.45 | anabain | let's try with aptitude... again |
| 20:48.59 | magnet | or you have to get the .deb and use dpkg --force-depends if dependancies are the problem |
| 20:49.07 | magnet | but it may break stuff |
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| 20:49.47 | x_link | Hi ! |
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| 20:51.14 | x_link | Somebody just helped me here. FOr like 10-15 minutes ago. I just don't remember the nickname. |
| 20:51.17 | olimpo | Hi there people i need some help |
| 20:51.32 | x_link | Are you still here who it now was ? |
| 20:51.44 | streuner | olimpo: just ask |
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| 20:52.30 | olimpo | am trying to build my own rep of debian |
| 20:52.43 | streuner | !own repo |
| 20:52.52 | streuner | hm |
| 20:52.52 | jdhoreOTG | i'm also having one other problem...i have a Hawking Technologies HWC54G Ralink rt2500 PCMCIA wifi card...i'm trying to get it to work in debian |
| 20:52.53 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 20:54.17 | jdhoreOTG | i've used this guide: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Debian_rt2500_Howto and i got everything working and ifconfig sees eth1 (the wifi card, i think), but iwconfig doesn't see any wireless cards...please help |
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| 20:54.48 | x_link | http://pastebin.ca/223280 |
| 20:54.57 | x_link | can somebody please take a look at that ? |
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| 20:54.59 | x_link | Please. |
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| 20:55.10 | anabain | jdhoreOTG, seek at ubuntu forums |
| 20:55.13 | magnet | x_link: do as it says |
| 20:55.22 | anabain | google has the answer |
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| 20:55.31 | magnet | (but that's debian telling you kde sux here :P) |
| 20:55.33 | olimpo | i have used the debmirror script and made a exactly copy of ftp.debian.org dist stable arch i-386 |
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| 20:55.47 | x_link | magnet: dpkg --configure -a just that ? |
| 20:55.51 | magnet | yeah |
| 20:55.54 | magnet | as root/sudo'ed |
| 20:56.05 | x_link | Okey. |
| 20:56.08 | x_link | I want to install KDE. |
| 20:56.08 | jdhoreOTG | i knida figure i'd get that response...i did use google and it gave me nothing 9or rather, nothing useful)...just a lot of misinformation |
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| 20:56.20 | magnet | do as you like, it's your life :) |
| 20:56.47 | x_link | magnet: What do you use ? |
| 20:56.57 | x_link | KDE is "easier" for me. |
| 20:57.06 | jdhoreOTG | i use Gnome, XFCE and Fluxbox |
| 20:57.07 | magnet | the default on debian :) |
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| 20:57.24 | magnet | or Xfce on a few lower-end boxes |
| 20:57.25 | x_link | i'm a newbie, so I just want to get know Debian/Linux better |
| 20:57.29 | x_link | Okey. |
| 20:57.48 | x_link | I like KDE most, then actually Xfce. |
| 20:57.51 | jdhoreOTG | yeah, i only use XFCE and flux when i need a light-weight WM |
| 20:57.52 | gans20|malchik | how to echo into the standard error stream? |
| 20:57.54 | x_link | But they are to hard for me. |
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| 20:58.07 | olimpo | but when i try to install something allways get stock waiting for headers |
| 20:58.17 | x_link | magnet: I just bought this machine that I use right now to install/learn Linux. |
| 20:58.22 | jdhoreOTG | if gnome is too hard for you, you should really not be using Linux |
| 20:58.22 | gans20|malchik | echo "error" > what_here? |
| 20:58.22 | gans20|malchik | or what? |
| 20:58.55 | magnet | x_link: how can a graphical environment be too "hard", and do you know that Gnome's goal is to be easy to use , so I fail to see how KDE would be easier :) |
| 20:59.06 | x_link | magnet: Intel Pentium II 450MHz, 640MB RAM, 64MB nVIDIA GeForce 2 MX-400 TV-Out, 32x CD-RW burner, Dell 19" CRT Trinitron. |
| 20:59.20 | magnet | well run XFCE :) |
| 20:59.22 | Stevie[FP] | KDE's layout is more similar to Windoze |
| 20:59.30 | x_link | magnet: I didn't mean that it's easier. But I like it more. |
| 20:59.33 | x_link | Stevie[FP]: Exactly. |
| 20:59.36 | olimpo | any idea???? |
| 20:59.47 | magnet | Stevie[FP]: don't people use GNU to get away from windows? :) |
| 20:59.54 | x_link | hehe yeah. |
| 20:59.58 | magnet | (I mean, most people) |
| 21:00.11 | x_link | magnet: Anyway, I just want to get to know Linux/debian better. Then I will try something else. |
| 21:00.15 | syntaxx | installing nvidia in backported xorg is same as installing nvidia in stable? |
| 21:00.18 | x_link | Another environment, another distro., |
| 21:00.23 | pumpkin0 | x_link: there are no 640MB RAM bars. Is it 64 MB RAM ? |
| 21:00.23 | Stevie[FP] | magnet: They're not using it to get away from the interface |
| 21:00.24 | magnet | x_link: told you, do as you like :) |
| 21:00.36 | x_link | pumpkin0: I have 640MB RAM. |
| 21:00.40 | magnet | Stevie[FP]: they should because on windows it's as bad as the rest ;) |
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| 21:01.05 | x_link | pumpkin0: 256MB + 256MB + 128MB = 640MB |
| 21:01.26 | Stevie[FP] | magnet: I think the Windows interface is great. A lot of people do. The problem with Windows is that what's behind the interface doesn't work so well |
| 21:01.27 | magnet | 640MB ought to be enough for everybody. |
| 21:01.28 | magnet | :D |
| 21:01.43 | x_link | The thing is that this mother board doesn't support over 256MB RAMs and it supports up to 768MB RAM. So I can get 3x 256MB. |
| 21:01.52 | Stevie[FP] | 640MB what? drive space? |
| 21:01.52 | cydork | Stevie[FP], use linspire then :P |
| 21:02.10 | x_link | Stevie[FP]: RAM |
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| 21:02.11 | lunitik | Plus, I don't think my system has 4 RAM slots |
| 21:02.33 | magnet | Stevie[FP]: well /I/ don't think so :). I don't like anything in windows, but I just don't care as long as I don't have to use it |
| 21:02.33 | lunitik | cydork: NO NOT recommend Linspire to anyway... thats just wrong |
| 21:02.43 | lunitik | anyone* |
| 21:02.53 | cydork | Stevie[FP], i still one P60 and 16 mb ram |
| 21:03.08 | x_link | lunitik: I saw a computer in a store, they said it was a computer for students. |
| 21:03.21 | beardy | Basically don't recommend anything besides Debian stable. Each channel can advertise their own crap.. er distros. |
| 21:03.23 | Stevie[FP] | lunitik: hehe |
| 21:03.25 | cydork | lunitik, hehe i know.. |
| 21:03.25 | x_link | 850Mhz Celeron, 512MB RAM, 60 or 80GB hdd and it had Linspire |
| 21:03.32 | twobitsprite | I killed artsd so that I can use a program that doesn't get along with it, and now I don't have any sound... any ideas? |
| 21:03.36 | x_link | But I read that you have to pay for Linspire ? |
| 21:03.43 | magnet | x_link: not anymore |
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| 21:03.52 | twobitsprite | this seemed to work before, but I can't remember what exactly I did last time |
| 21:03.53 | magnet | but it sucks anyway :) (except for the debian base) |
| 21:03.55 | x_link | magnet: I won an auction 2 days ago =) |
| 21:04.06 | lunitik | x_link: thats salesman speak "idk wtf is it but you should buy it" |
| 21:04.06 | dracflamloc | ican anyone tell me how to have debian use a ramdisk for /tmp |
| 21:04.33 | beardy | dracflamloc: Why do you want to? |
| 21:04.44 | lunitik | x_link: you have to pay for Linspire... yes... flat fee + yearly... |
| 21:04.45 | olimpo | ok people i have this situation: I have used the debmirror script to made a copy of ftp.debian.org dist sarge stable arch i-386, when i try to use my local mirror allways stock waiting for headers, any idea?? |
| 21:05.01 | x_link | magnet: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ ( 2.0GHz), 512MB DDR, WD 80GB 7200rpm, 42x CD-RW burner and 56x cd.r burner, nVIDIA GeForce4 64MB MX-440. |
| 21:05.01 | dracflamloc | my debian is installed on a usb flash drive. i dotn want any apps thrashing /tmp on it |
| 21:05.19 | ehj20 | My nfs mounts are taking about 60 seconds to complete. Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this? Both machines are running debian: one machine is running diskless and network booting and the mounting of it's root filesystem is instantaneous during booting, it's just any extra nfs mounts that are delayed. Any ideas? |
| 21:05.30 | magnet | x_link: yeah well that's OK |
| 21:05.35 | h3sp4wn | ehj20: running portmap on both sides ? |
| 21:05.39 | x_link | lunitik: "idk wtf is it but you should buy it" what does that men ? |
| 21:05.43 | h3sp4wn | ehj20: if not use -o lock |
| 21:05.46 | twobitsprite | ehj20: check your logs... they might be trying to do a hostname lookup |
| 21:05.49 | x_link | magnet: I bought it for Linux. KDE will run good on that one, right ? |
| 21:05.52 | h3sp4wn | ehj20: if not use -o nolock |
| 21:05.54 | vorbote | dracflamloc: don't use a ramdisk, use a tmpfs filesystem, same final result; better memory management. |
| 21:05.55 | lunitik | idk = I don't know ... wtf = what the fuck |
| 21:05.55 | magnet | x_link: i don't know what the fuck :) |
| 21:06.03 | x_link | Okey. |
| 21:06.09 | x_link | Sorry, I will not ask anymore. |
| 21:06.11 | x_link | =) |
| 21:06.14 | magnet | x_link: yeah, it will. Gnome will run better even :) |
| 21:06.21 | lunitik | magnet: lies |
| 21:06.24 | x_link | he okey. |
| 21:06.25 | magnet | :D |
| 21:06.29 | ehj20 | h3spa4n, twobitsprite: thanks, will follow those up. I assume I'm not running portmap... |
| 21:06.40 | magnet | me? lying? I wouldn't dare |
| 21:06.46 | magnet | :> |
| 21:06.48 | x_link | < magnet> x_link: i don't know what the fuck :) |
| 21:06.54 | x_link | LOL I thought you said that to me heheh |
| 21:06.57 | robin_z | x_link, did it boot? |
| 21:07.05 | lunitik | magnet: you just don't like the guy then? recommending Linspire and Gnome so far... so mean :( |
| 21:07.06 | x_link | robin_z: YEEES =)))) |
| 21:07.09 | robin_z | nice |
| 21:07.20 | x_link | robin_z: I had this problem with 4 other hard drives. w |
| 21:07.21 | magnet | what? I never recommended Linspire |
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| 21:07.35 | magnet | Linspire uses KDE |
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| 21:07.39 | Bagoor | find . -name "*.jpg" will write all the names with a ./ ! how can I remove ./ part from its first ? |
| 21:07.39 | x_link | Well not exactly this problem, the problem was with the other 4 hard drives was that I didn't set the CD-ROm to boot first. |
| 21:07.40 | magnet | that's why it sucks that much :D |
| 21:07.42 | lunitik | magnet: ahh... cydork did... my bad |
| 21:07.42 | dracflamloc | can you set a max size for tmp_fs? |
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| 21:07.54 | syntaxx | nvidia installing backport xorg is same as installing nvidia in stable? |
| 21:08.05 | x_link | That's why I bought a new machine, found it on a auction site. I thought this machine was "dying" |
| 21:08.06 | lunitik | magnet: its barely KDE... their kdelibs is broken horribly... |
| 21:08.28 | magnet | Bagoor | cut -d '/' -f 1 |
| 21:08.34 | x_link | robin_z: Thanks ALOT for the help man, I REALLY appreciate it. |
| 21:08.36 | cydork | lunitik, it's the worst debian based distro :P |
| 21:08.42 | vorbote | dracflamloc: you set it up as another fstab entry, yes you can set a memory limit (read mount(8)) |
| 21:08.46 | magnet | more likely -f 2 |
| 21:08.57 | dracflamloc | cool thanks |
| 21:09.08 | robin_z | x_link, no problem, people here are generally helpful ..it the debian way |
| 21:09.09 | magnet | lunitik: nonetheless, it contains evil kde and qt code :D |
| 21:09.19 | robin_z | x_link, oh, just dont mention Ubuntu |
| 21:09.24 | x_link | hrmmm. "kde is already the latest problem" |
| 21:09.30 | x_link | errrr version. |
| 21:09.42 | robin_z | nah, problem |
| 21:09.43 | magnet | yeah it's a problem but not the latest :) |
| 21:09.43 | robin_z | :) |
| 21:09.48 | lunitik | magnet: you don't want to say that directed at me unless you have about an hour or so to defend your view ;) |
| 21:09.48 | x_link | But last time I set it as default, when i installed it. Then why didn't it start ? |
| 21:10.02 | robin_z | luck? |
| 21:10.40 | lunitik | robin_z: whats wrong with Ubuntu? decent default Debian, allows users to get things done instead of having to figure shit out before starting to use things |
| 21:10.54 | magnet | lunitik: I don't have an hour but I could defend it too (comparing APIs)... Anyway, even the eye-candiness of Qt doesn't make it for me |
| 21:10.59 | robin_z | lunitik, shh now |
| 21:11.24 | lunitik | magnet: you prefer coding with GTK over Qt? you're insane |
| 21:11.24 | magnet | I am :) |
| 21:11.26 | x_link | Now I should just logout and quit this session and then choose KDE, right ? |
| 21:11.40 | magnet | x_link: yeah then jump off the bridge please :D |
| 21:11.45 | lunitik | magnet: ew... good luck with that :S |
| 21:11.51 | magnet | sorry I'll stop trolling now |
| 21:12.08 | x_link | magnet: Am I asking to much ? hehe |
| 21:12.15 | x_link | I will stop doing that, I promise. |
| 21:12.33 | magnet | lunitik: I create the glade interface, then bind it to the prog with libglade, and gnome's/gtk aren't that bad |
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| 21:12.57 | magnet | I'm not 100% happy but I don't like Qt's "Java in C++" API |
| 21:13.17 | ehj20 | h3sp4wn:the -o nolock option made the difference, thanks again. |
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| 21:14.24 | niles | can anyone play wma files ? |
| 21:14.29 | zinx | !anyone |
| 21:14.30 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 21:14.45 | pumpkin0 | niles: mplayer can play some wma´s ... |
| 21:14.51 | lunitik | magnet: *shrug* kdevelop + qt = simple, fast development... gtk + glade = complications resembling war with computer |
| 21:15.45 | magnet | lunitik: hu, python + pyGlade/pyGTK = my gui in no time and my code already done so I only have to interface it |
| 21:16.06 | magnet | (and my code in any language supported by SWIG) |
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| 21:18.34 | h3sp4wn | EFL looks like bliss compared to either gtk or qt (from my initial inspections) |
| 21:19.13 | magnet | well, xvid time, 'night |
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| 21:20.04 | syntaxx | nvidia drivers in stable works in backport xorg? |
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| 21:21.17 | niles | why is it so easy to get mplayer working on ubuntu but a bitch on debian. |
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| 21:21.34 | craigevil | it no harder |
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| 21:21.55 | pumpkin0 | niles: debian cares about the law... |
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| 21:21.59 | h3sp4wn | niles: get it from debian-multimedia (its not crippled like the ubuntu one either) |
| 21:22.13 | worzel | pumpkin0, ubuntu does too |
| 21:22.54 | pumpkin0 | worzel: nope, ubuntu does not care about the debian laws and views about FOSS. |
| 21:23.58 | cydork | niles, mplayer is now in unstable, i think it will be etch soon.. |
| 21:24.11 | cydork | s/it will be/it will be in/ |
| 21:24.26 | robin_z | OK, who wants this wireless router? |
| 21:24.28 | niles | im using sarge |
| 21:24.37 | robin_z | useless pile of crap |
| 21:24.52 | niles | robin_z: im running openwrt |
| 21:24.55 | niles | its nice |
| 21:25.16 | robin_z | niles, yeah .. will itwork on my Linksys WRT54G? |
| 21:25.28 | wols_ | robin_z: only if it's a pre v5.0 one |
| 21:25.28 | pumpkin0 | robin_z: YES |
| 21:25.32 | niles | robin_z: im using a wrt54g |
| 21:25.34 | niles | so yes |
| 21:25.47 | niles | i have v2.0 |
| 21:25.47 | wols_ | it won't work on new ones |
| 21:25.49 | robin_z | right .. and will it do the simple thing I need? |
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| 21:26.02 | robin_z | mine is 3.1 I think |
| 21:26.02 | pumpkin0 | robin_z: what do you need ? |
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| 21:26.12 | h3sp4wn | robin_z: probably it will do it |
| 21:26.15 | kml_ | hi, what tool can i use to configure the nic? |
| 21:26.26 | pumpkin0 | kml_: mii-tool |
| 21:26.40 | h3sp4wn | kml_: man interfaces |
| 21:26.48 | robin_z | pumpkin0, I have a 192.168.1.x local net, with random routers and stuff .. and I want to plug in a box to connect my laptop to it |
| 21:26.53 | wols_ | robin_z: Serial no prefix CDF9 ? |
| 21:26.59 | robin_z | CDF8 |
| 21:27.03 | eyeris | I am trying to use the nightly netinst installer for i386. This is on a Dell PowerEdge 860 server. I've gotten to the point where I finish configuring the partitions and the md devices (for raid 1). The first time the mdadm program got caught in D state. This time mkfs.ext3 is caught in D state. Is there a common cause for this or should I try the etch beta 3 installer to check if it is a bug in the installer? |
| 21:27.09 | wols_ | 3.0 then. it will work |
| 21:27.21 | stew | anyone know how to have dhcpd offer an additional static route to another net? option static-route seems to only let you offer a -host route, there is no way to specify a netmask |
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| 21:27.30 | pumpkin0 | robin_z: yes, that will do. |
| 21:27.45 | kml_ | what about for configuring the network address on the nic? |
| 21:27.48 | robin_z | wols_, currently, my Sarge laptop with a Buffalo wifi card is not connecting to it ... lots of dmesg errors |
| 21:28.09 | wols_ | what dmesg error? |
| 21:28.10 | pumpkin0 | kml_: man ifconfig |
| 21:28.26 | wols_ | kml_: man interfaces |
| 21:28.30 | robin_z | !paste |
| 21:28.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
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| 21:28.43 | kml_ | look likes i have to edited some files |
| 21:28.56 | pumpkin0 | kml_: /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 21:29.35 | wols_ | stew: dnsmasq can do what you want |
| 21:29.39 | kml_ | for dhcp on eth0 and static on eth1 |
| 21:29.55 | wols_ | stew: 1.2.3.4/24 not working in dhcpd? |
| 21:30.06 | stew | wols_: what does this have to do with dns? |
| 21:30.10 | stew | wols_: no |
| 21:30.14 | wols_ | dnsmasq is a dhcpd to |
| 21:30.15 | kml_ | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 21:30.17 | wols_ | too |
| 21:30.28 | stew | oh |
| 21:30.29 | robin_z | http://channels.debian.net/paste/4236 |
| 21:30.48 | robin_z | wols_, ^^ |
| 21:31.04 | kml_ | it would be nice if there's configuration tool for this. |
| 21:31.26 | robin_z | kml_, ther are tools, but the editor is simple enough |
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| 21:32.09 | wols_ | robin_z: wow, looks bad. card works on other APs? |
| 21:32.11 | kml_ | will have to go through the man interfaces to setup this up now. |
| 21:32.15 | kml_ | thanks |
| 21:32.17 | robin_z | wols_, unsure |
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| 21:32.35 | pestilence | i have an openvpn server running debian. i have it setup to route connections from the VPN clients to the local network. i can reach all of my machines except for one through this method, and am having difficulties troubleshooting this. any ideas? |
| 21:32.42 | robin_z | I have other cards though ... |
| 21:32.48 | aarkerio_ | how can I know how much RAM I have? |
| 21:32.48 | xam | robin_z: mhhh, okay, taht is totally weird. Your NIC, STA and PRI versions are not possible. Probably you're not using a real prism2 card ... |
| 21:32.50 | wols_ | while running open firmware on the WRT54G is always better, I'd check it |
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| 21:33.13 | asg | pestilence: you could sniff traffic on the outbound interface on the openvpn server to see what/if anything is getting through. |
| 21:33.16 | wols_ | aarkerio_: cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 21:33.27 | aarkerio_ | wols_, thanks! |
| 21:33.42 | pestilence | asg, outbound as in the one on the local network? or the public network? |
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| 21:35.40 | xam | robin_z try to disable the hostap_cs driver. The orinoco might work, but it doesn't attempt to initialise the wireless card, because it was already clamed by hostap_cs |
| 21:35.48 | pestilence | and what should i use in terms of text-mode network sniffer? |
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| 21:36.08 | wols_ | pestilence: thethereal |
| 21:36.41 | pestilence | wols_, ah. didn't know there was a command-line ethereal :) |
| 21:36.51 | wols_ | wireshark now |
| 21:37.22 | wols_ | tcpdump works too |
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| 21:38.13 | niles | mplayer still doesent work. and now none of my media player will play. all i did was run the one liners. |
| 21:38.15 | niles | http://rafb.net/paste/results/FYwmLT90.html |
| 21:39.02 | pestilence | well, that was VERY informative :-D |
| 21:39.12 | robin_z | but the dmesg los are remarkably similar |
| 21:39.12 | robin_z | should I beat them to death with a hammer? |
| 21:39.18 | robin_z | pestilence, check the routing table in the troublesome machine |
| 21:39.29 | niles | craigevil: told me to do this http://rafb.net/paste/results/IkqPRl96.html |
| 21:39.42 | robin_z | xam, how do I disable the host_ap stuff? |
| 21:39.43 | pestilence | well, i am pretty sure i see the problem, but i'm not sure how to fix it |
| 21:39.54 | niles | now none of my media players will play any files that is did play successfully |
| 21:39.59 | asg | pestilence: you could also just dump the data with tcpdump, copy it to a workstation, and analyze it with wireshark/ethereal. |
| 21:40.19 | pestilence | when i ssh from a machine on the vpn to this machine, it does a DNS query of the machine's old hostname...which causes issues |
| 21:40.23 | pumpkin0 | my vpnc (cisco vpn) is failing, are there alternativ vpn-clients that work with cisco-concentrators ? |
| 21:40.44 | xam | robin_z do you use a debian kernel? |
| 21:40.46 | pestilence | i'm not sure i understand it. |
| 21:40.54 | pestilence | so i ssh to e.g. 172.16.0.2 |
| 21:41.06 | pestilence | what i see on the tun0: |
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| 21:41.21 | niles | ok i killed a totem zombie |
| 21:41.22 | pestilence | DNS Standard query AAAA hostname.localnet |
| 21:41.24 | niles | but still no mplayer |
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| 21:41.30 | luisbg | what is the debian developers channel? |
| 21:41.36 | pestilence | DNS Standard query response |
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| 21:41.52 | xam | perstilence: that is a IPv6 name lookup |
| 21:41.54 | pestilence | DNS Standard query AAAA oldhostname.fqdn <--- this is bad, bad, bad |
| 21:42.17 | binary_dreamer | hi |
| 21:42.30 | pumpkin0 | niles: mplayer does not the enough rights to display anything on your X11. Are you logged in as a different user ? |
| 21:42.53 | robin_z | xam, yeah ... |
| 21:42.56 | wols_ | niles: and you probably lack w32codecs |
| 21:43.04 | robin_z | xam, its OK, I apt-get removed it |
| 21:43.26 | binary_dreamer | i am running sarge and i would like to upgrade the kde to 3.4 or to 3.5. could someone tell me a repository that works correctly? i already used the debian unofficial repository and it corrupted my installation. |
| 21:43.32 | robin_z | xam, I need MODE="Managed" right? |
| 21:43.39 | robin_z | in wireless.opts? |
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| 21:44.15 | xam | robin_z: yes, if you have a wireless router somewhere |
| 21:44.45 | pestilence | hmm...if i try just ssh'ing to the ip address, these dns queries go away (ok, i expect that)....but now i just see a bunch of packets from my machine to the machine i'm trying to connect to with no response |
| 21:44.47 | cydork | binary_dreamer, which one did you use? backports? |
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| 21:45.23 | xittum | om working on a partiton howto... could someone with sata drives do "fisk -l" and put it on a pastebin? i need to see some details (i think) |
| 21:45.26 | xittum | *im |
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| 21:46.22 | Caelum | does anyone use evolution with an exchange server? How do you stop it from scanning all the public folders on startup, here it hangs for hours doing that if I try to use it... |
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| 21:46.58 | robin_z | xam, hmm, hostap_cs is stuck in the kernel and refuses to come out without a fight.. I might need to reboot, rmmod has no effect |
| 21:47.17 | moreati | xittum: one sec |
| 21:47.33 | Ben` | when I try to "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" I get the error "libxslt1: Depends: libxslt1.1 (= 1.1.12-8) but it is not going to be installed", what should I do? |
| 21:47.41 | xam | robin_z: yeah, could be because of the init problem |
| 21:47.57 | Ben` | I mean, "libapache2-mod-php5: Depends: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.12) but it is not going to be installed" |
| 21:48.32 | niles | wols_ i have w32codecs |
| 21:48.32 | moreati | xittum: in which package is fisk? |
| 21:48.40 | niles | i have had them and been playing mp3's |
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| 21:48.53 | xittum | moreati: "fdisk -l" as root |
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| 21:49.07 | niles | pumpkin0: i only have one user on my computer |
| 21:49.08 | moreati | xittum: that would make more sense |
| 21:49.21 | xittum | moreati: a lot i would say.. lol |
| 21:49.26 | admin_ | What is a program i could use to take a current mp3 file and edit it? (like take parts out) |
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| 21:49.42 | xittum | admin_: audacity? |
| 21:49.47 | admin_ | xittum: ok..thanks |
| 21:50.06 | wols_ | Ben`: where are you getting php5 from? |
| 21:50.18 | h3sp4wn | admin_: you can use snd also |
| 21:50.20 | pestilence | hmm...the packets are indeed hitting their destination (per tcpdump on the destination machine), but no reply is going out... |
| 21:50.21 | binary_dreamer | cydork, yeap |
| 21:50.30 | binary_dreamer | cydork, any ideas? |
| 21:50.33 | Ben` | wols_, http://dotdeb.pimpmylinux.org/ |
| 21:50.55 | wols_ | Ben`: use backports and not the broken dotdeb packages |
| 21:50.59 | xjkx | i installed kde-mylanguage and it translated to my language, but on firefox, i cant use like ééé áááá you know, if you are using utf-8 you won't see it :P i think configuring locales would fix, but dpkg configure locales says software has no problems and wont be configured ? |
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| 21:51.04 | wols_ | !tell Ben` about backports |
| 21:51.07 | cydork | binary_dreamer, well if that doesn't work, you are SOL. if it's not a sever upgrade to etch :P |
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| 21:51.15 | Ben` | thanks |
| 21:51.20 | moreati | xittum: http://channels.debian.net/paste/4237. |
| 21:51.21 | cydork | !tell root about root |
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| 21:51.39 | designdreamz | i completely screwed the package system... anyone have a tutorial on moving all the current files into a path and doing a fresh install without loosing all data? |
| 21:51.45 | xjkx | then i'd like to configure it |
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| 21:51.49 | binary_dreamer | cydork, do u know any other repository for kde? since i have done a new installation of sarge. |
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| 21:51.57 | xjkx | without uninstalling coz it would make me uninstall other softwares |
| 21:52.04 | wols_ | xittum: you don't need the layout from other people's partitions |
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| 21:52.09 | cydork | binary_dreamer, like i said only backports.org is recommanded.. |
| 21:52.22 | binary_dreamer | cydork, ok thanks. |
| 21:52.29 | wols_ | xjkx: what problems? |
| 21:52.29 | xittum | thanks moreati |
| 21:52.41 | xittum | wols_: ohh i dont... im glad you told me :P |
| 21:52.51 | wols_ | xittum: so why do you think you do? what for? |
| 21:52.57 | wols_ | your partition table will be different |
| 21:53.10 | xjkx | when i run locale command, it says lang=other language, how can i edit it, where is it setting each boot time?i don't wanna make a new one like setting now, or on rc.locales, i want to change this one, for leaerning purpose, wols, my system is configured to another language (us) |
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| 21:53.18 | wols_ | !locales |
| 21:53.19 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. You can override this in your personal dotfiles, of course (see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles) |
| 21:53.56 | pestilence | how do i figure out why these packets are not getting responses? |
| 21:54.19 | xjkx | wols_, whats the difference to dpkg-reconfigure locales to dpkg --configure locales? |
| 21:54.20 | xittum | wols_: that why i need it.. im trying to make a partition howto that will cover it all.. http://mepis.linuxkiosken.dk/temp/temp_html_partition/ |
| 21:55.39 | wols_ | xjkx: none that I know |
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| 21:55.57 | niles | where is the wma codec stored? perhalps mplayer needs the -ao option |
| 21:55.59 | cydork | designdreamz, what did you do?? |
| 21:56.15 | cydork | niles, wma is available with w32codecs.. |
| 21:56.39 | wols_ | niles: dpkg -L w32codecs |grep wma should work |
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| 21:57.25 | JuGaco | hi |
| 21:57.34 | com4 | how do i link gnome's suspend buttons to the hibernate script? |
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| 21:57.37 | niles | cydork: but i do have w32codecs. |
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| 21:57.57 | cydork | wols_, what wols_ said then.. |
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| 21:58.09 | niles | wols_: thanx |
| 21:58.12 | cydork | niles, ^^ |
| 21:58.20 | cydork | bah :P |
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| 21:59.32 | h3sp4wn | xjkx: If you are on sid or etch you have to use locale-conf |
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| 21:59.52 | Ben` | when I try to view a PHP file on my server it tries to download them instead of display its output |
| 21:59.59 | Ben` | anyone know what's wrong? |
| 22:00.07 | wols_ | Ben`: your MIME-type |
| 22:00.09 | Kerr | 'lo .. I guess these are fairly common questions, but does anyone know of a repo where i could apt-get flash8, or firefox 2? |
| 22:00.14 | wols_ | from wher did you download your php? |
| 22:00.26 | wols_ | Kerr: there is no flash8 |
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| 22:00.36 | wols_ | and ffox might be in sid, but I probably not |
| 22:00.48 | wols_ | *I think |
| 22:00.54 | wols_ | btw: |
| 22:00.58 | Ben` | wols_, http://www.uk.backports.org/ |
| 22:00.59 | dendrite | Ben`: What web server daemon? On apache, the AddHandler directive tells apache to run the php instead of just shoveling it out the door. |
| 22:00.59 | wols_ | !iceweasel |
| 22:01.00 | dpkg | Due to trademark restrictions, debian is likely to not be able to distribute firefox with the firefox name, instead a fork will replace it. the new package will be named iceweasel, but it will not (at least, at first) be the software from the fsf with the same name (see http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla), see also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel. |
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| 22:01.26 | JoachimLM | hello |
| 22:01.32 | JuGaco | how can upgrade from sarge r2 to r3? |
| 22:01.52 | wols_ | JuGaco: dist-upgrade |
| 22:01.52 | niles | JuGaco: whats r2 and r3 ? i run sarge too. |
| 22:01.52 | Ben` | dendrite, I have "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" in apache2.conf |
| 22:01.53 | JoachimLM | I'm searching a certain piece of software whose name I can't be remind |
| 22:01.54 | dendrite | JuGaco: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. That's assuming your sources are sane. |
| 22:01.57 | niles | cool |
| 22:02.09 | Kerr | wols_: flash 9, even |
| 22:02.10 | pumpkin0 | JuGaco: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:02.15 | wols_ | niles: securiy updates |
| 22:02.19 | dendrite | Ben`: Check AddHandler. |
| 22:02.47 | streuner | niles: release candidates |
| 22:02.52 | niles | ahh |
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| 22:03.06 | JoachimLM | It takes text in standard input, analyses it's grammary and outputs a meaningless, grammatically-correct text |
| 22:03.07 | rapt501 | does anyone know if it is possibe print color text on the console? |
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| 22:03.12 | JuGaco | Thanks |
| 22:03.17 | JoachimLM | I just can't remember it's name and it's pretty boring |
| 22:03.33 | dendrite | rapt501: It is possible. Try this: ls --color=auto |
| 22:03.56 | abrotman | rapt501: yes |
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| 22:04.42 | rapt501 | oho ok |
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| 22:04.45 | rapt501 | cool |
| 22:05.03 | rapt501 | thanks |
| 22:05.22 | pestilence | asg, so the machine is receiving the packets from the vpn, it's just not responding to them. and i can't figure out why |
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| 22:05.41 | pestilence | tcp dump shows packets from vpn-machine > local.machine but not the other way |
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| 22:06.00 | wols_ | is the address port on the local machine open? |
| 22:06.01 | pestilence | ack! |
| 22:06.04 | dendrite | pestilence: Sounds like a hosed routing table. |
| 22:06.06 | wols_ | what kind of packets are they? |
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| 22:06.08 | zmutte | heya, I was just wondering how I can unpack a tar archive with the old "base-64" header |
| 22:06.10 | Ben` | dendrite, I tried adding "AddHandler php-script .php" to apache2.conf but it didn't make a difference |
| 22:06.10 | pestilence | the routing table is definitely hosed |
| 22:06.11 | pinky | I run Debian testing and I have my onboard soundcard disabled in the BIOS because I use a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum, but every once in a while I boot up and ALSA is trying to use "VIA 8237" with Chip: "Analog Devices AD1985" and I can't get it to use the Audigy until I restart. |
| 22:06.34 | robin_sz | xam, OK, any ideas how to stop hostap_cs claiming htis card? |
| 22:06.53 | dendrite | Ben`: And you restarted apache2 ? |
| 22:07.00 | abrotman | pinky: you could blacklist the modules |
| 22:07.01 | Ben` | dendrite, yes |
| 22:07.04 | pinky | Can I get ALSA to try and use the Audigy card without restarting? |
| 22:07.09 | robin_sz | xam, I removed the config file from /etc/pcmcia/hostap.conf and rebooted .. it still claims the card |
| 22:07.15 | Kerr | Is anyone maintaining a flash player 9 package, or should i grab adobe's tarball? |
| 22:07.19 | abrotman | pinky: you can unload all the snd modules .. then do it |
| 22:07.22 | dendrite | Ben`: Hmm. Dunno then. This *is* a FAQ, btw... |
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| 22:07.36 | craigevil | Kerr just grab the Adobe plugin |
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| 22:08.06 | pestilence | dendrite, there is an entry |
| 22:08.08 | pestilence | 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 22:08.10 | S4nD3r | so, how to convert DOC to PDF ??? Is there any way to convert in line command ??? |
| 22:08.20 | pinky | abrotman: Okay, so I'll unload any "snd_*" modules with 'via' in the name... what's the command to do that? |
| 22:08.27 | pinky | Just unloading modules I mean |
| 22:08.34 | simonrvn | modprobe -r foo |
| 22:08.35 | robin_sz | sigh ... |
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| 22:08.39 | cydork | S4nD3r, search for wv |
| 22:08.42 | pestilence | but i think it should be 172.16.0.254.... |
| 22:08.52 | abrotman | pinky: unload them all .. modprobe -r |
| 22:09.03 | pinky | All? As in, every module? |
| 22:09.14 | izzyb | is there a way to tell which driver is loaded for eth0? |
| 22:09.15 | pestilence | what decides the default gateway? |
| 22:09.17 | dendrite | pestilence: It's not necessarily true that your VPN should be your default route. |
| 22:09.18 | simonrvn | no, as in the one you specify, plus deps |
| 22:09.27 | xam | robin_z: good question ;) did that long time ago, don't know whether it is still valid: edit some files in /etc/pcmcia/* ... or perhaps this is nom handled by /etc/udev or /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ |
| 22:09.28 | robin_sz | bah, how do I stop hostap_cs playing with this card? |
| 22:09.39 | h3sp4wn | pestilence: dhcp or the gateway x.x.x.x stanza in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:09.49 | abrotman | pinky: all the sound modules |
| 22:10.02 | xam | nom=now |
| 22:10.07 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 22:10.07 | dpkg | blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 22:10.08 | pestilence | well, my network topology is a little complicated. that machine has it's own internal network, which is 10.1.1.1.... |
| 22:10.19 | abrotman | NOT THAT IP!?!?! |
| 22:10.21 | pestilence | but the local network is 172.16.0.0, the VPN is 172.16.33.0 |
| 22:10.34 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 22:10.35 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 22:10.39 | pestilence | h3sp4wn, ok, thanks |
| 22:10.49 | pestilence | dendrite, i'm not sure what should be the default route. |
| 22:10.51 | pinky | abrotman: There are so many snd_ modules that it'd be faster to just restart. Unless this will help in preventing this problem from happening again... |
| 22:10.59 | abrotman | !tell pinky about blacklist |
| 22:11.02 | dendrite | pestilence: Probably your normal internet connection. |
| 22:11.14 | moreati | http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste how do I build the packages using the unpacked sources? Which I've patched. |
| 22:11.14 | robin_sz | should I just delete the hostap_* .ko files on the system and reboot? |
| 22:11.21 | pestilence | dendrite, right, so i think that entry is wrong. |
| 22:11.30 | dendrite | pestilence: Then your VPN can just come and go, without affecting other Internet bound traffic. |
| 22:11.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: tried fizzball yet? |
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| 22:11.39 | pestilence | dendrite, right. |
| 22:11.55 | robin_sz | xam, you still there? |
| 22:12.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. beer time! |
| 22:12.04 | tarzeau | odla: man this game is great, the lone warrior, the sound is fantastic! pity i can't get it to work on linux |
| 22:12.18 | izzyb | is there a way to tell which module is being used by a given device (ie eth0) |
| 22:12.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: beer's cheap. i've had wine :) |
| 22:12.19 | abrotman | ethtool might |
| 22:12.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're special |
| 22:12.38 | xam | robin_sz: yeah, a bit busy sorry |
| 22:12.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: nah, but i'm swiss now :) |
| 22:12.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: so you said ... |
| 22:12.54 | izzyb | hmm, nothing in /proc? |
| 22:12.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: no more raki for you! |
| 22:13.05 | robin_sz | xam, if yo get a moment .. any ideas on removing hostap_cs welcomed |
| 22:13.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've got several full bottles of raki |
| 22:13.16 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 22:13.21 | pestilence | dendrite, sweet! i removed the gateway stanza from the static interface, and now it sets the default gateway as the external network's gateway....bottom line, THIS FIXED IT!! :-D |
| 22:13.25 | tarzeau | abrotman: should you ever be in switzerland you're welcome |
| 22:13.26 | moreati | damn, wrong url. http://channels.debian.net/paste/4238 |
| 22:13.31 | pestilence | thanks everyone! |
| 22:13.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: i've had albanian raki |
| 22:13.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: you can also use my guitar |
| 22:13.49 | abrotman | i'll steal it! |
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| 22:14.14 | abrotman | beer time! |
| 22:14.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't think so, i'd rather make it a gift before you can even think about stealing it |
| 22:14.19 | tarzeau | cheers |
| 22:14.21 | xam | robin_sz: so far several people already told u how to do it |
| 22:14.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: hehe .. okay .. later! :) |
| 22:14.39 | xam | robin_sz: ask dpkg about blacklist |
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| 22:14.53 | cydork | damn! i am out of beer :( |
| 22:14.58 | robin_sz | xam: I was disconnected from the net for the last 10 minutes, missed it |
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| 22:15.18 | adrakoa | hi |
| 22:15.22 | xam | !tell robin_sz about blacklist |
| 22:15.35 | robin_sz | thanks |
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| 22:19.45 | Xentaurus | hola disculpas... alguien me puede ayudar con el apt?? |
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| 22:20.24 | roas_ | hello. If I install Etch on a machine, can I easily downgrade it to sarge later? I only want the SATA support! |
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| 22:20.40 | roas_ | Xentaurus, a ver dime como to puedo ayudar |
| 22:20.43 | adrakoa | Xentaurus: all right.. man apt-get; man apt-cache.. |
| 22:21.03 | Xentaurus | mira... tengo el r2 y quiero pasarme al r3 |
| 22:21.06 | Xentaurus | se puede?? |
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| 22:21.17 | moreati | did I miss something, does dpkg-buildpackage use the contents of the source directory by default? |
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| 22:22.19 | roas_ | Xentaurus: r2 que es? Una version de algun paquete? |
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| 22:22.25 | Xentaurus | hago el apt-get update y me dice que no tengo paquetes a actualizar... pero se que de seguro tengo |
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| 22:22.46 | Xentaurus | es la revision 2 del debian sarge 3.1 |
| 22:22.59 | adrakoa | Xentaurus: apt-get dist-upgrade, or /channel #debian-es |
| 22:24.12 | adrakoa | Xentaurus: man apt-get is the better option |
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| 22:24.25 | adrakoa | the best :) |
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| 22:24.59 | Ben` | I have apache and php installed, and I have "AddHandler php-script .php" in my apache2.conf but it's still trying to download the PHP files. Can anyone help? |
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| 22:25.56 | dieb | I've some trouble (for the 1° time) with posix acl on sarge upgraded into testing. setfacl: fldr: Function not implemented. But i've mounted the filesystem with acl : /dev/sdb10 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) |
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| 22:29.27 | plb | will firefox 2 be in unstable anytime soon? |
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| 22:31.09 | dfinn | on an etch machine is there anything else other than "xhost +" that I need to run to be able to direct X connections to my desktop? |
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| 22:31.22 | grummund | hi, can anyone suggest a vpn solution (between two linux boxes) that doesn't require either tun devices, or pppd? |
| 22:34.28 | Vejeta | More people is getting problems with wodim, like not being able to toast cd? |
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| 22:35.58 | robin_sz | sigh .. I I added a skip line to /etc/discover.conf for hostap and hostap_cs and a line in /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 22:36.10 | robin_sz | and it still loads hostap_cs as I plugh the card in |
| 22:36.10 | mastroDani | i, i've a problem.. im trying to configure an old Linuxant Modem.. i've installed the driver from linuxant.. configured it and tryed.. but when i lanch wvdial or pon it starts.. i can ear the carrier, but it not compose the numbar... the modem is: Communication Controller: Rockwell International HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem code (127a:2013) wich as the hsf driver as you can see on www.linuxant..... any hint? |
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| 22:36.37 | mastroDani | (hi all) :D |
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| 22:36.49 | dx | Hi... what's the command to remove some initd script ? |
| 22:36.55 | robin_sz | rm? |
| 22:37.05 | dx | from initialization. |
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| 22:37.17 | dfx- | dx: update-rc.d -f packagename remove |
| 22:37.25 | dx | dfx-, thank ya. |
| 22:37.53 | robin_sz | bah this hostap_cs nonsense is begining to bug me |
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| 22:38.11 | robin_sz | shoudl I try deleting the .ko files relating to hostap? |
| 22:38.25 | dfx- | dx: that will remove all of the package symlinks in your /etc/rc# directories |
| 22:38.40 | robin_sz | plugging a wireless card into a laptop should not be this hard :( |
| 22:38.50 | mastroDani | guys can you help me? |
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| 22:39.18 | robin_sz | !ask |
| 22:39.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 22:40.09 | zinx | robin_sz: which version of debian? |
| 22:40.14 | dfinn | on an etch machine is there anything else other than "xhost +" that I need to run to be able to direct X connections to my desktop? if I log in as root and set my display to the IP address of eth0, then open up an xterm that works. somewhere along the lines something is being blocked. |
| 22:40.16 | robin_sz | Sarge |
| 22:40.26 | zinx | robin_sz: hmm... does that have a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist? |
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| 22:40.56 | Guerin | ok, poll time |
| 22:41.15 | Guerin | what's a graphic card which can do 3d in free software? |
| 22:41.23 | robin_sz | zinx, it does! |
| 22:41.24 | zinx | Guerin: a decent one? doesn't exist. |
| 22:41.28 | Guerin | need not be high-performance or modern |
| 22:41.54 | zinx | robin_sz: ok, either add 'blacklist hostap_cs' to that or create a new file in /etc/modprobe.d and put 'blacklist hostap_cs' in it, then run update-modules |
| 22:42.02 | zinx | robin_sz: it shouldn't load anymore |
| 22:42.02 | h3sp4wn | Guerin: I have a radeon 9250 works pretty fine (AGP) fully free drivers (only thing it doesn't have is hardware transparancy but I am not bothered for that) |
| 22:42.05 | Guerin | istr some of those radeons has *some* gl support in free software |
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| 22:42.23 | Guerin | h3sp4wn: right. Supported by the 'radeon' driver in x? |
| 22:42.52 | amphi | Guerin: radeon 7500 is one - I have it ;) see man radeon for others |
| 22:42.56 | h3sp4wn | Guerin: yep - there are newer ones supported by the r300 driver but I dunno how well |
| 22:42.57 | robin_sz | zinx, OK, done. I'll have to reboto now to get rif of it |
| 22:43.03 | robin_sz | reboot even |
| 22:43.05 | Guerin | ah, cool |
| 22:43.31 | mykhal | i'd like to install debian on machine without cdrom. the machine will have hdd connected via usb. is it possible to install debian base system to that disk from another machine, where is already debian installed ? |
| 22:44.22 | mykhal | I see debian-installer package, but it's only some docs |
| 22:44.23 | Guerin | hm, no manual entry for 'radeon' |
| 22:44.43 | zinx | Guerin: 9250 and below have open source 3d support |
| 22:44.46 | dieb | mykhal: you can try network install :) |
| 22:44.49 | zinx | Guerin: i wouldn't say it's that great, though. |
| 22:44.57 | Guerin | zinx: ok, that's enough for me to go on. |
| 22:45.04 | zinx | Guerin: IIRC, intel's cards have open source support, but they may use a HAL, and intel's cards are absolute crap anyway |
| 22:45.27 | mykhal | dieb: ? i cannot boot anything there |
| 22:45.58 | enouf | Guerin: the man entry exists on 2.6.16 sid |
| 22:46.07 | wols_ | there are no intel cards sold at this time |
| 22:46.16 | enouf | Guerin: modprobe -l | grep radeon |
| 22:46.17 | Guerin | enouf: odd, because that's what I'm running |
| 22:46.19 | wols_ | all of intels vga controllers a chipset built in |
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| 22:46.26 | wols_ | *re |
| 22:46.31 | enouf | Guerin: apt-get update ?? |
| 22:46.57 | Guerin | enouf: the kernel module is definitely there |
| 22:47.04 | dondelelcaro | .awat dead |
| 22:47.09 | mykhal | dieb: but here, I can .. :) but I'm not sure installer will handle usb storage devices |
| 22:47.14 | zinx | wols_: i still consider them to be cards :/ |
| 22:47.16 | enouf | Guerin: man 4 radeon |
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| 22:47.29 | zinx | wols_: even if you do have to buy a motherboard with them :D |
| 22:47.31 | enouf | Guerin: there's 2 .. one's a fb though |
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| 22:47.42 | Guerin | enouf: yes, both exist |
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| 22:48.29 | enouf | Guerin: update your man pages? .. or maybe Xorg? .. My Xorg is made from many pieces .. including ALL avail video drivers |
| 22:49.01 | enouf | Guerin: IOW .. I have a lot of useless crud available from Xorg |
| 22:49.28 | dieb | mykhal: i don't know about installer usb support, but why not? is it really a minimal kernel within the installer? |
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| 22:51.03 | mykhal | dieb: I'm not sure. Pitty that that installer cannot be run as an application, and I have to boot CDROM (afaik) |
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| 22:52.26 | Guerin | enouf: oh, xorg is modular now, that'll be the thing |
| 22:52.44 | enouf | Guerin: right-o |
| 22:53.15 | enouf | Guerin: mine's older and not upgraded .. all parts are available :-0 |
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| 22:55.18 | nighter | hi SAN switches witch port is often the configuration util located at? |
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| 22:56.32 | nighter | hi SAN switches witch port is often the configuration util located at? |
| 22:56.55 | amphi | !tell nighter about repeat |
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| 22:59.28 | h3sp4wn | nighter: probably a console port |
| 22:59.46 | h3sp4wn | nighter: db9 serial port |
| 23:00.15 | mastroDani | i, i've a problem.. im trying to configure an old Linuxant Modem.. i've installed the driver from linuxant.. configured it and tryed.. but when i lanch wvdial or pon it starts.. i can ear the carrier, but it not dial up the numbar... the modem is: Communication Controller: Rockwell International HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem code (127a:2013) wich as the hsf driver as you can see on www.linuxant..... any hint? |
| 23:00.57 | Guerin | mastroDani: get a real modem |
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| 23:03.35 | beardy | mastroDani: If you hear the dialtone, but it's not dialing, you must have forgot somethign in your ppp configuration. |
| 23:03.56 | beardy | mastroDani: But anyway, do what Guerin said and get rid of all troubles. |
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| 23:05.26 | Pupeno | Hello. |
| 23:05.54 | Pupeno | To have a second IP in the same interface, I should add a colon and start counting in interfaces, right ? like eth0:0, eth0:1, etc ? |
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| 23:06.11 | Kevin` | yes, this works |
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| 23:08.13 | mikuntu | hello, how to make a usb hard disc using NTFS writable? |
| 23:08.36 | sussudio | !ubuntu |
| 23:08.37 | dpkg | hmm... ubuntu is A GNU/Linux distribution that is <Based on Debian>. Please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ or /join #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we do not support Ubuntu here. |
| 23:08.57 | beardy | !ntfsrw |
| 23:08.57 | dpkg | Write support for ntfs is not really available. Ask me about read-ntfs so you can read data on ntfs partitions. see <ro-ntfs>, or for i386, see <ntfs-3g> |
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| 23:10.24 | Pupeno | Because when trying to enable eth0:0 or eth0:1 I get the error: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address, Failed to bring up eth0:0. Using ip addr add worket though. |
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| 23:11.48 | craigevil | you can write to ntfs using ntfs-3g but its still buggy and can cause problems |
| 23:12.03 | Pupeno | This channel seems so dead compared to 6 months ago or more. |
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| 23:12.31 | Kevin` | probably because someone decided to split it between here and oftc |
| 23:12.46 | Guerin | !fable |
| 23:12.46 | dpkg | somebody said fable was http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
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| 23:13.31 | ehj20 | Does anyone have any suggestions for a kiosk-type lightweight image viewer? |
| 23:13.47 | Guerin | enouf: feh |
| 23:13.50 | Guerin | ehj20: feh |
| 23:14.12 | ehj20 | Guerin: thanks, feh seems to be the one |
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| 23:15.36 | concept10 | !iceweasel |
| 23:15.36 | dpkg | Due to trademark restrictions, debian is likely to not be able to distribute firefox with the firefox name, instead a fork will replace it. the new package will be named iceweasel, but it will not (at least, at first) be the software from the fsf with the same name (see http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla), see also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel. |
| 23:16.20 | mastroDani | beardy: sorry for the lag in responce.... i missed the messages.. i think the config is ok... what can be wrong? |
| 23:17.37 | ehj20 | Why is the trademark restriction only an issue with firefox and not, say, with openoffice? |
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| 23:18.16 | dwu | is it possible to have mltple entries in fstab at the same mount point? |
| 23:18.28 | dvs | dwu: why? |
| 23:18.29 | dondelelcaro | dwu: yes, but that's a bad idea. |
| 23:18.33 | dwu | i want to mount /dev/hdd on /cdrom as well as some loopback device |
| 23:18.35 | Kevin` | dwu yes, but not to the effect you probably want |
| 23:18.45 | Kevin` | so only one at a time? |
| 23:18.49 | dwu | Kevin`: yea |
| 23:18.51 | Kevin` | yes. |
| 23:18.52 | dondelelcaro | dwu: then put loop in the options to mount |
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| 23:19.02 | dwu | dondelelcaro: but they both point to /cdrom |
| 23:19.04 | xam | dwu: just add 'noauto' to the options |
| 23:19.23 | xam | dwU: oops |
| 23:19.24 | dwu | xam: yea, but when user type `mount /cdrom/` which one does it know |
| 23:19.27 | Kevin` | typing 'mount /cdrom' could cause problems, though :) |
| 23:19.30 | dwu | yea |
| 23:19.32 | dwu | exactly |
| 23:19.45 | Kevin` | mount /dev/hdc likely would not |
| 23:20.07 | dwu | Kevin`: you could type either to mount it? |
| 23:20.18 | dwu | like the mount device OR the mountpoint? |
| 23:20.23 | Kevin` | dwu yes, you can type either to mount |
| 23:20.30 | xam | Kevin': surely, since it's hdd ;) |
| 23:20.30 | dwu | Kevin`: ah, so great |
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| 23:20.40 | Kevin` | xam, oops :) |
| 23:21.09 | ehj20 | what if you tried to mount both at the same time ;-] |
| 23:21.26 | Kevin` | only the latter would be displayed |
| 23:21.34 | Kevin` | don't do that =p |
| 23:21.44 | enouf | dwu: they need diff mount points .. then mount the correct mount point -- can use block device names as well .. but then I can see udev and DEs messing that up |
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| 23:22.53 | dwu | enouf: you make no sense. the point is that sometimes i want actual cd sometimes i want iso on /cdrom |
| 23:23.08 | enouf | then I'm nonsensical ..ignore me |
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| 23:24.48 | rxkaffee | anyone know how to switch to a true console from demudi's fluxbox configuration? alt-ctrl-f1,f2,etc doesn't seem to do the trick |
| 23:25.00 | rxkaffee | demudi is an etch-based multimedia distro |
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| 23:28.25 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: try asking #demudi |
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| 23:31.51 | rxkaffee | dondelelcaro, two steps ahead of ya mate ;) no luck over there |
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| 23:32.56 | Guerin | rxkaffee: if you were really two steps ahead, you'd realise that #debian is not #demudi |
| 23:33.02 | Davey | I'm having issues with my software RAID, can anyone shed some light on this? http://hashphp.org/pastebin?pid=9100 |
| 23:33.21 | rxkaffee | Guerin, demudi is simply an addon package to debian etch, while #debian might not be demudi, demudi is definetly debian |
| 23:33.23 | dondelelcaro | rxkaffee: unfortunatly then, there's not much we can do to help you; they've quite possibly broken the getty settings or done something else strange |
| 23:33.44 | rxkaffee | Guerin, you can apt-get the demudi package to any debian system |
| 23:34.39 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: know if the kenrl-package thing is fixed yet? the one with the "Old" variable thing in the .postinst script. |
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| 23:35.34 | rxkaffee | hey Davey, ya wouldn't still happen to have a backup of my old omestre files, would you? |
| 23:35.42 | Davey | hah, not likely |
| 23:36.22 | rxkaffee | bummer, had some good stuff on there |
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| 23:37.29 | Daveman | all your dave are belong to me! |
| 23:37.47 | rlandis | hello |
| 23:37.50 | Guerin | rxkaffee: no. |
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| 23:38.36 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: I haven't checked, actually... it's in the buglist for kernel-package, though. |
| 23:39.06 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah, it was fixed in 10.063 |
| 23:39.13 | rxkaffee | Guerin, what do you mean no? |
| 23:39.17 | rlandis | how do you get the computer to turn it self comletely off when shutdown -h |
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| 23:39.58 | Guerin | rxkaffee: what you say does not make it so. |
| 23:40.42 | rlandis | I have just the base sarge on this omnibook 4100 |
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| 23:41.46 | rlandis | I just loaded xchat on tonite |
| 23:42.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 23:42.11 | simonrvn | Guerin: make it so! |
| 23:42.14 | rlandis | I run just xterm |
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| 23:42.29 | ehj20 | is there a way to redirect output from a pts/ssh session to a local xorg session? |
| 23:42.47 | ehj20 | (does that make any sense?) |
| 23:43.21 | SubStack | x forwarding? |
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| 23:43.45 | rlandis | when I installed the full desktop installation it would completely turn the laptop off |
| 23:43.51 | rxkaffee | Guerin, if you are disputing that demudi is an installable package for debian, this wiki page explains how it is done http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq#Upgradingexistinginstallations |
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| 23:44.18 | rlandis | but that had to much stuff so I'm going with just the base install |
| 23:44.31 | Guerin | rxkaffee: the point is once you install it, you're no longer running debian |
| 23:44.39 | ehj20 | What I mean is, I've got Xorg running locally, and I'm logged into the same machine over ssh. I'd like to run a feh process from the ssh session and have it output on Xorg |
| 23:44.46 | simonrvn | rxkaffee: i think Guerin means that it isn't in debian. which it isn't |
| 23:45.02 | Guerin | rxkaffee: and without auditing every package, we can't know what has broken what and how |
| 23:45.26 | ehj20 | Damn, I meant, Xorg is running on a remote machine |
| 23:46.14 | rlandis | any ideas? |
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| 23:46.48 | SubStack | ehj20: x forwarding |
| 23:47.04 | rxkaffee | Guerin, I'm using etch packages for everything except kernel and multimedia packages, and even many of them are directly from the etch repositories |
| 23:47.08 | xam | ehj20: well, change your $DISPLAY variable to ':0' |
| 23:47.17 | magyar | is there a way to get amavis to read the bayes database in "/var/lib/amavis/.spamassassin" ? |
| 23:47.41 | Zarephath | Hey everyone I got debian sarge installed...I have done apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade..what is the easiest way to install gnome or kde? |
| 23:48.00 | dvs | !install gnome |
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| 23:48.01 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 23:48.23 | ehj20 | xam: thanks |
| 23:48.26 | Zarephath | dvs: Thank you |
| 23:48.34 | Zarephath | !kde |
| 23:48.34 | dpkg | hmm... kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 23:48.53 | Zarephath | !kernel |
| 23:48.55 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.18.1, prepatch: 2.6.19-rc3, snapshot: 2.6.19-rc3-git3, 2.4: 2.4.33.3, prepatch: 2.4.34-pre4, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.19-rc2-mm2 |
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| 23:49.29 | SubStack | 19 is out? time to upgrade! |
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| 23:49.51 | dvs | SubStack: not officially |
| 23:49.59 | SubStack | aw |
| 23:50.04 | ndee | hello there, I changed the locale yesterday to de_DE but I want to revert it to POSIX again and I forgot the syntax *ashamed* can anyone help me out? |
| 23:50.09 | streuner | SubStack: they aren't stable |
| 23:50.15 | Zarephath | So are there other repositories that need to be added? I would like to move from kernel image 2.4.27 to 2.6.18 |
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| 23:50.29 | streuner | SubStack: rc=release candidate ... |
| 23:50.58 | Ketchup | is http://security.debian.org dead? |
| 23:50.58 | dvs | Zarephath: if you're just starting with Debian, I wouldn't recommend anything other than stable |
| 23:51.08 | Ketchup | everytime i "apt-get udpate" it stops at 31% |
| 23:51.11 | ehj20 | ndee: worth a look in .bash_history if it'll go back far enough? |
| 23:51.26 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i have 10.063 but it still fails on that error. |
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| 23:51.29 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: for me.. |
| 23:51.42 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: did you rebuild your kernels? |
| 23:51.47 | Zarephath | dvs: Yes but the bot states that 2.6.18 is stable? |
| 23:51.47 | Ketchup | any idea? |
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| 23:52.21 | dvs | Zarephath: That's stable for the kernel, not Debian stable (sarge) |
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| 23:52.41 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: dondelelcaro no. but i am just doing the debian 2.6.18 kernel.. let me remove and install again |
| 23:52.51 | beered | Where is Bind's log file (on Sarge)? |
| 23:52.52 | Zarephath | dvs: Ok gotcha..thanks... |
| 23:53.01 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: it probably hasn't been rebuilt since then |
| 23:53.05 | Zarephath | !gnome |
| 23:53.06 | dpkg | [gnome] a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome |
| 23:53.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394661 is the fix, and it just got fixed yesterday |
| 23:53.23 | Zarephath | ! install gnome |
| 23:53.23 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 23:53.38 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 23:54.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i'll just build my own. |
| 23:54.40 | Zarephath | Ok so I just did apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment and it can't find an installation candidate? |
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| 23:54.41 | xam | beered: it should log on /var/log/syslog. You might turn on logging with 'rndc querylog' |
| 23:54.47 | Guerin | rxkaffee: this is irrelevant. |
| 23:54.55 | msn | i am trying to get kolab working. configured everything but i am not able to contact my local ldap server |
| 23:55.02 | msn | seems its not binding itself to 389 |
| 23:55.07 | dvs | !info gnome-desktop-environment sarge |
| 23:55.10 | beered | xam: thanks. |
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| 23:55.16 | dpkg | gnome-desktop-environment: (The GNOME Desktop Environment), section gnome, is optional. Version: 64 (sarge), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
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| 23:56.41 | Zarephath | Now I get broken packages?? |
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| 23:56.53 | Guerin | bollocks, I appear to have lost the cd containing several hundred MB of irreplaceable files |
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| 23:57.18 | Xentaurus | hola.. alguien puede ayudarme a actualizar el debian sarge?? |
| 23:57.21 | zepeuga | how can i remove all debs related to kde or that were installed as dependencie of another package ? |
| 23:57.39 | Zarephath | Xentaurus: Ingles por favor |
| 23:57.56 | Guerin | Zarephath: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 23:57.56 | rxkaffee | Guerin, perhaps, but my conscience would have killed me to leave you uninformed about demundi |
| 23:57.56 | xam | Guerin: bah, nothing is irreplaceble. But sometimes stuff just replaced by zeros or random garbage ... |
| 23:57.59 | streuner | !es |
| 23:58.00 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:58.20 | Guerin | xam: long time no see! |
| 23:58.26 | xam | Guerin ;) |
| 23:58.30 | Guerin | xam: this stuff has been replaced by |
| 23:58.31 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.36 | Guerin | that ↑ |
| 23:58.55 | Zarephath | Guerin: I don't have kde installed..fresh install? |
| 23:59.02 | dvs | zepeuga: /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 23:59.48 | Guerin | Zarephath: nothing of kde is installed by default. |
