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15:31.59simonrvn~wb
15:32.06aptIt's great to be back!
15:32.08strangerI need to relax now and enjoy some yanni mp3's
15:32.22simonrvn~wb mhall
15:32.44simonrvn@wb mhall
15:32.47ravenbirdWelcome back mhall, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of cheese.
15:32.55strangerbye for now
15:32.59simonrvnsee you
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15:34.39johaBBai need some ideas on what to do w/my old laptop. anyone?
15:34.42hburcheyDoes synaptic have an equivalent for aptitude's auto feature? How can I use synaptic to find out whether a package was explicity installed or whether it was auto-installed to satisfy dependencies?
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15:36.03cydorkjohaBBa: install debian, get a wificard and go wardriving :)
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15:36.26abrotmanjohaBBa: discus ?
15:36.37johaBBahrm...wardriving is interesting....
15:37.02johaBBawhat's discus?
15:37.18Tired_johaBBa -> sell it to an auto repair shop and buy a new one?
15:37.19abrotmanan olympic event
15:37.34Tired_they use old laptops to plug into cars
15:37.41johaBBaahhhh. hrm.
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15:38.47johaBBawell, ilve got a dual 64x2 on order
15:38.54johaBBaso it's old :P
15:38.55abrotmanjohaBBa: give it to your mom
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15:39.17catlol
15:39.41myren64x2 is a terrible notation
15:39.51simonrvn128? ;p
15:39.55johaBBawell, you got the idea, myren
15:40.04myrenit took me >3 seconds to figure it out
15:40.08myrenwait, dual 64x2?
15:40.12johaBBayeah
15:40.13myrendual dual-core?
15:40.18johaBBadual 64 bit
15:40.32cydork!confuse myren
15:40.32dpkgNo, them are your bacon today, myren? shirts of the dictatorship of belarus with extra ham
15:40.35myrendouble duble?
15:40.37abrotmancan't you just say 'X2' and that's good enough ?
15:40.50johaBBawhatever?
15:40.55myrendual 64x2?
15:41.03myrenfour cores
15:41.32Tired_wow, your 'old' laptop is better than my best desktop
15:41.48simonrvnnewer than any of my machines...
15:41.49abrotmanmy current laptop is slightly better .. but i've barely thought about replacing it
15:41.50johaBBai thought there'd be some cool linux project i could use my old one with. seen the electronic picture frame...but wondered if you guys knew of any other nice projects for a old(for me) latop
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15:42.02abrotmani'm not sure what i'd do with my current laptop if i got a new one
15:42.06Tired_a 2.4GHz picture frame??
15:42.11simonrvn...
15:42.16abrotmanprobably sell it to simonrvn for poutine
15:42.27johaBBaTired_, yeah, thats why iwanted to ask here. heh
15:42.29abrotmandelivered of course!
15:42.34simonrvnexpensive poutine
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15:42.40abrotmanjohaBBa: music streaming device ?
15:42.41johaBBagotta be some use for it still
15:42.51ma3xwhat port does gaim use for msn? what port should I forward to receive faster files?
15:42.58johaBBaoooooh...i like that abrotman
15:43.03abrotmanjohaBBa: how about .. as a laptop ?
15:43.05simonrvngive it to your mom, or a poor student
15:43.15abrotmanjohaBBa: donate it to a poor family?
15:43.16johaBBai'm getting a new laptop...can't carry 2
15:43.17Tired_if I had a laptop to spare with those kinda specs, i'd be looking at networked audio and video, so I could set it up as a wireless client to stream media to wherever I am in the house...watch movies in the tub or whatever.
15:43.36abrotmancydork: because you waste all day in here .. go get a job
15:43.38Ronincydork: doesnt get any better when you're working
15:43.39NachI notice on x86-32 unstable, wine doesn't work because it wants GCC 4.2 for libgcc_s.so, but there is no 4.2 in unstable. There is a 4.2 in experimental but when trying to install it I get this "gcc-4.2: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20060709-1) but 1:4.1.1-13 is to be installed". Is there any way I can get wine working again?
15:43.44myrenhow do i modify the AWK delimiter?
15:43.46simonrvnRonin: for sure
15:43.51johaBBaTired_, custome thingie or is there a project that does all that? mythtv?
15:43.51asgmyren: -F<delim>
15:43.52cydorkRonin: hehe
15:43.59myrenasg thank you thank you thank you
15:44.11Tired_I'd do it custom, but that's me
15:44.15abrotmanmyren: IOW .. man awk
15:44.20simonrvnall the fucking money in the world is concentrated at the top. some "society"...</politics>
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15:44.30myrenIOW?  I was searching for 'delim', not 'field seperator'
15:44.31vltHello. Any idea where to add websites/domains to "trusted sites" in konqueror?
15:44.33johaBBaTired_, hrm.....i think i've found a winner
15:44.42Tired_glad we could help :)
15:44.45abrotmansimonrvn: i believe you meant ... "some 'civilization'" :)
15:44.47johaBBa:)
15:44.57simonrvn'trusted sites'?
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15:45.02abrotmanmyren: you could .. read the whole thing :)
15:45.06abrotmanor at least all the flags
15:45.11simonrvnabrotman: interchangable ;)
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15:45.35myrenabrotman: i could also write a programming language in C to do awk like behaviors, it'd probably take less time than reading the whole thing
15:45.57simonrvni GTG, meeting someone in a bit. BBL
15:46.09myrenabrotman: that doesnt make it a good idea
15:46.10simonrvnenough time to have a smoke and go
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15:46.26abrotmanmyren: not really .. you should be less lazy and read the man page a bit .. good stuff in there
15:46.52abrotmansince -F is around line 50 ...
15:47.12abrotmanand it's actually the first option mentioned
15:47.30vltsimonrvn: Where can I find that section "trusted sites"?
15:47.50cydork!rtfm myren
15:47.53simonrvnvlt: what do you mean by that?
15:48.25myrenoptions, listed alphabetically... -F/--field seperator, -v/--assign, -f/--file... no matter how you dice it that is definately not alphabetical.  :)
15:48.28vltsimonrvn: Do you know how  to tell Konqueror not to show this message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
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15:48.35myren!stfu cydork
15:48.36dpkgSHUT THE FUCK UP cydork!
15:48.42cydorkhehh
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15:49.00myreni'm feeling much better now (dave)
15:49.02nvzsimonrvn: dpkg and ravenbird were having troubles getting package info this morning.. they would report updating debian files then say it failed
15:49.05abrotmanmyren: it is the first option listed
15:49.15simonrvnvlt: oh. is there a "don't show this message again" checkbox in the dialogue box?
15:49.22myrenindeed.  asg even helped me find the keyword i was looking for.
15:49.32Bushmills(i suspect he means urls for which to turn on java / javascript automatically, while having it turned off for the others. i also suspect he doesn't know what the browser should do with "trusted/untrusted" sites)
15:49.32myrenbecause he's a NICE PERSON
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15:49.35nvzsimonrvn: btw wtf are you running that thing on its considerably slower than dpkg
15:49.41cydorkdamn you asg :)
15:49.48abrotmanmyren: IT'S THE FIRST OPTION IN THE MAN PAGE!
15:49.55abrotmanwhich means you didn't even try to read it
15:49.56simonrvnnvz: ok. on a rather busy machine :/
15:50.03myreni was looking for keywords
15:50.12myrenlooking through environmental variables
15:50.14PDani__abrotman: thx
15:50.23vltsimonrvn: Ehm, no, that would have been too easy ...
15:50.33myreni was scanning, and it didnt register because it defied my expectation
15:50.48abrotmantry reading
15:50.58simonrvnvlt: i don't remember, sorry
15:51.39vltBushmills: Do you know how  to tell Konqueror not to show this message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
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15:52.06Bushmillsvlt: sorry, no konqueror here
15:52.32simonrvni remember seeing that a while back, but i don't remember what i did to disable it
15:52.58simonrvnpretty useless ;)
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15:53.35vltsimonrvn: You disabled it? So it must be possible ...
15:53.46simonrvnyeh
15:54.21ma3xwhat port does gaim use for msn? what port should I forward to receive faster files?
15:54.34simonrvnopen msn, look in netstat
15:54.58simonrvnand i don't think you'll get files faster ...
15:55.09nvzI get the idea women don't listen. and when they say they want to talk that means _they_ want to talk and you are just suppose to listen :P
15:55.16Roninopen gaim and go advanced, i think its there as well
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15:55.31Roninnvz: you just learned that?
15:55.31simonrvnyeh
15:55.34nvzI say things and like 5 minutes later they will say the same thing like they just throught of it
15:55.36ofer0ma3x, either way, MSN sends files through MSN server, not direct
15:55.59simonrvnnvz: the sooner you realise certain things about women, the happier you'll be
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15:56.39ma3xthats shitty
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15:57.07PepperBobhi there! is anyone using postgresql with perl via DBD::PÖg ?
15:57.16PepperBobDBD::Pg I mean
15:57.24nvzshe just went to take her laundry around the corner to the laundromat and I told her like 10 minutes ago it would be easiest if she just went and did that while I do what I am doing.. you know sitting on my ass..
15:57.55nvzoh well
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15:58.26ma3xhow do I view what process is establishing what connection in netstat?
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15:59.05asgma3x: fuser -v <port>/<proto> or netstat -plunt
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15:59.39ma3xthanks
15:59.54dendrite!anyone
15:59.54dpkgPlease do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
16:00.28simonrvnlsof can do that too
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16:09.05Tired_so, can anyone tell me about the status of bug 241630?
16:09.43Tired_is it resolved, or is it still in limbo, needing a test case?
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16:10.31Tired_http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=241630 just sorta stops...doesn't say if it's fixed or not.
16:10.53Tired_and I don't wanna wipe the box to find out it's not...
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16:11.10snailTags added: moreinfo Request was from Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
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16:12.14snailbasically the bug report has been overtaken by a new release of the installer. unless you respond with new information (like that the new release doesn't fix the problem) the bug will be closed sometime soon
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16:12.52Tired_snail -> so you need someone to test it, then
16:13.20emilianohi, i need postfix 2.3 to get sasl per sender auth client. How can i do it in debian sarge since the last postfix in repository is 2.1 ?
16:13.22LinuxHelpHi guys, does any1 know the package that contains "man flock" and "man fctrl" ?
16:13.44snailTired_: indeed.
16:13.46emilianoLinuxHelp install apt-file
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16:14.00Tired_i don't see how the installer supersedes the kernel on the install cds...?
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16:14.17snailemiliano: try backports?
16:14.49emilianosnail i forget it, thanks :)
16:14.57Tired_it exhibits the bug trying to boot the install cd, so how can you get to the new installer?
16:15.11snailTired_: neither do i, but then this isn't my area. a detailed report of the behaviour of the new version will put the bug back on the radar of those whose area it is.
16:15.41snailTired_: the new installer includes the part that boots, i believe
16:16.02Tired_ok. since I seem to have the time and the hardware, I'll test it with the latest and write up any problems
16:16.28snailTired_: thanks. the better the bug reports, the better the chance of it being fixed soon
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16:17.17LinuxHelpapt-file update takes forever :(
16:17.17Tired_i'll try...I am pretty green with all this, but this bug affects all the distros derived from debian, also, so it'd be nice to have it resolved
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16:17.45beligumHi all, I'm looking for packagers to packages the ScreenKast screen capturing program
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16:19.10emilianosnail postfix 2.3 is not in backports ÑS
16:19.17emilianowell i will have to compile it :S
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16:21.34Deepawhats backports?
16:22.13BraindeadDeepa: you could feel lucky today...
16:22.19yaarg!backports
16:22.19dpkgbackports is, like, a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport>
16:22.56DeepaBraindead: i use etch :p
16:23.05Deepaso its basically
16:23.14Deepanewer applications for older debians?
16:24.11emilianoits basically newer applications that are not in stable branch of debian
16:24.28BraindeadDeepa: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=
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16:24.44BraindeadDeepa: it was meant to be a nicer way to say  http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=backports
16:26.15DeepaBraindead: well i dont have a browser :)
16:26.18Deepaand i have only one TTY
16:26.30Deepaits a bad circle
16:26.32vin`screen + lynx
16:26.34BraindeadDeepa: that's what screen is foor
16:26.41Deepai use screen :D
16:26.41Braindeadyep,aptitude install screen
16:26.55Deepais apt short for aptitude?
16:27.00magnetno
16:27.13Deepaow
16:27.18magnetapt is the name of a part of the package management framework
16:27.22Deepathen i can finally tell this one person to go to hell and stop spamming me about lies :D
16:27.23magnetaptitude is a ncurse frontend for apt
16:27.26Deepabrb
16:27.30Braindeadmagnet: that's not correct
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16:27.49Braindeadaptitude ALSO has a ncurse interface that relies on libapt
16:27.49magnetBraindead: well how is it not correct? :)
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16:28.05Braindeadit can easily be used from the command line
16:28.06magnetyep, aptitude also has a command line interface
16:28.21magnetbut when dealing with command line most people use apt-utils
16:28.25magnet(apt-get, apt-cache, etc)
16:28.27Deepaback
16:28.32Deepaapt-get and apt-cache <3
16:28.39Deepaaptitude is too boring AND complicated :p
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16:28.42vin`!agi foo
16:28.42dpkgaptitude install foo
16:28.49Roninboring and complicated? heh
16:28.49Braindeadmagnet: because everybody says them "aptitude is apt-get with ncurses" that's plain wrong
16:28.50w3rdn4Anyone know how to make 75,000K in one year?
16:28.59Roninw3rdn4: if i did i would
16:29.00Braindeadw3rdn4: sucking dicks?
16:29.01Deepa!apt foo
16:29.08Deepaoh noes
16:29.16zinxw3rdn4: i have email telling me how to make WAY more than that
16:29.17Deepaw3rdn4: work in japan?
16:29.22magnetBraindead: I say aptitude is NOT apt but a frontend for apt
16:29.23Deepa75,000yen is not much
16:29.28magnetsaying that i's a ncurses frontend is just a shortcut
16:29.39w1w1t0m1hello, I do have script; output of this script are numbers(float) , each on new line. What should I use (what is the simplest way) to achieve sum of these numbers? thanks
16:29.43Braindeadmagnet: nope. it's an application that uses libapt,that's different
16:29.44magnetor maybe do we need to go in details for each question asked here ? :)
16:29.46w3rdn4This house I am living in is goign to get sold out from under me unless I can make a substantial amount of money
16:29.57Braindeadmagnet: the fact is it's not just a frontend
16:30.00magnet... a front-end is a basically an application using a lib
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16:30.09Roninw3rdn4: time to either get a job, a mortage or a moving company
16:30.15Deepasomeone quote what apt says about aptitude
16:30.16magnetand which is a user-run application
16:30.19Braindeadit's got its own dependency resolver on top of that
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16:30.29Braindeaddpkg: aptitude?
16:30.29dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas.  http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html.  But be careful boys'n'grilfs:  Bug# 299009
16:30.44cydorkw3rdn4: or marry someone who is rich
16:30.50magnetyeah, yeah, you're right :) I'm not asking for help though, and I don't need no Debian primer
16:30.55Braindeadmagnet: for starters it doesn't leave shit behind,like plain apt-get does
16:31.19Deepaapt doesnt leave shit behind
16:31.30BraindeadDeepa: apt-get install openoffice. then remove it
16:31.34w3rdn4what are good paying jobs?
16:31.37Deepamr mark my words
16:31.40Deepait leaves data behind
16:31.48tarzeau!popcon
16:31.49dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
16:31.49magnetapt-get --purge remove then
16:32.03Braindeadit leaves useless dependencies behind. that's what deborphan is for
16:32.25blackelfhow to debug why ping do not work (unreachable host).
16:32.30Braindeadmagnet: that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about orphan dependencies
16:32.32ofer0aptitude purge PKG
16:32.45ofer0Braindead, use aptitude. use deborphan then orphaner
16:32.59Braindeadif you install and remove with aptitude you've got no orphans. plus baby jesus won't cry
16:33.01blackelfhow to debug why ping do not work (unreachable host).  phisical connection work (LED blinks on both cards)  but the host beeing pinged reports meany errors in ifconfig
16:33.09ofer0Braindead, I mean, install deborphan, then use the command orphaner.
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16:33.30blackelfBraindead: how to do apt-get install foo   with aptitude
16:33.30scampbelis there a guaranteed way to remove a package? Trying to dpkg -r a package and dpkg says "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal"
16:33.34Deepaanyone played ANIMALS?
16:33.35Braindeadofer0: the whole point is in NOT having to use gimmicks like deborphan
16:33.37Deepaits hilarious
16:34.03Braindeadblackelf: aptitude install FOO. start with aptitude install aptitude-doc-en
16:34.16magnetdeborphan will break your system for free :)
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16:34.50Braindeadthen read it. you'll also discover aptitude search regular expressions and magical tools whoooo /o/
16:34.52ofer0magnet, if you blindly remove packages, maybe. if you know what you are doing - that's a nice tool
16:35.13magnetofer0: my way of dealing with useless packages is to ignore them :)
16:35.19Zaibguys i hv kernel 2.6.17 installed .. now when i do apt-get upgrade one of the package is linux-kernel-header ... can neone tell me whts is this .. and wht it will change
16:35.26ofer0and expose your system to security holes?
16:35.33magnetI try to avoid unneeded dependancies in the first place (ie: I avoid all Qt/KDE based program)
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16:36.11ofer0I try to avoid all programs
16:36.13magnetofer0: security holes ? :)
16:36.54jetworkapollon, drawn in by one of the kde metapackages, totally trashes and breaks the gnome application menu in etch
16:37.11jetworkalso you get mucho error with update-menus
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16:38.44cydorkjetwork: jetscremer?
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16:41.17lopathink it would work? :/
16:41.25Eclipserno
16:41.34Eclipser(wild guess)
16:41.38AndroidDat1hi. I installed suphp and now I can't make a configuration file because apt-get is a discriminating piece of #$!%@ who doesn't obey me.
16:42.17AndroidDat1I put suphp.conf in /etc like the manual tells me to but it won't run it,  appearantly, and continues telling me I can't run phpmyadmin in /usr/share/phpmyadmin cuz' it's not in docroot, even when I set docroot to /
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16:43.43AndroidDat1any heeeeeeeeeelllllpppppp?
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16:44.13AndroidDat1i may have found the problem. I found /usr/share/hal and I'm scared
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16:44.30purplieAndroidDat1: setting document root to / is THE most retarded idea I've heard in a while
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16:45.15AndroidDat1well, what else am I supposed to do?!
16:45.30AndroidDat1I need to run /usr/share/phpmyadmin AND /var/www/[username]/public_html stuff
16:45.35AndroidDat1and I have virtual hosts, too
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16:45.44AndroidDat1and to top it off, me & my dad are the only users
16:45.48magnetAndroidDat1: start with setting up apache properly :)
16:46.03AndroidDat1uhm
16:46.05AndroidDat1no.
16:46.07pickcoderheh
16:46.26purplieAndroidDat1: ummm.... YES.
16:46.28PepperBobI'm running a dual core (pentium d). which kernel would fit that best? SMP?
16:46.30AndroidDat1I don't have time to look through every setting to set some stupid DOC_ROOT thing to /var/www, knocking out anything in /usr/share
16:46.33OmnipotentEntityStupid Question: Has anyone else running unstable been having their computer completely and uncleanly shut down after viewing certain websites in Konqueror?
16:46.39purplieAndroidDat1: ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin
16:46.39AndroidDat1and what's your deal of telling me what to do? I own the box, not you
16:46.47AndroidDat1that's already done.
16:46.48abrotmanOmnipotentEntity: have you checked the bts ?
16:46.57purplieAndroidDat1: dont ask for help if you can't take it.
16:47.02pickcoderPepperBob: if it's really a dual-core and not a multi-threaded CPU then you'll benefit from an SMP kernel
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16:47.25abrotmanOmnipotentEntity: also ask #debian-kde
16:47.32OmnipotentEntityok.
16:47.32pickcoderPepperBob: the 2.6 kernel is supposed to handle scheduling better than 2.4, but I haven't personally be able to prove either way
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16:47.41pickcoders/be/been
16:47.45purplieabrotman: I should think he's already in there :D
16:47.49AndroidDat1I changed the alias to goto /var/www/phpmyadmin and it still gives me errors.
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16:48.00redloffhi, is it possible to print sth from dosemu on usb printer? how do I do this (I use cups)
16:48.03AndroidDat1:\
16:48.10PepperBobpickcoder: i has two cores - so SMP would be best.. alrigth. thank you!
16:48.16purplieredloff: what is this "sth" you want to print?
16:48.19abrotmanpurplie: wanna take bets ?
16:48.24AndroidDat1now, where the hell are the config files for suphp?
16:48.28purplieabrotman: no
16:48.30redloffpurplie, an invoice form a dos program
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16:48.38redlofftext only
16:48.38lopaany channel where i could get help with debian and sparc?
16:48.45abrotman!sparc
16:48.45dpkgmethinks sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org.  For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc
16:49.00lopanone there man
16:49.27abrotmanlopa: on OFTC ?
16:49.43purpliethis is freenode
16:49.47purplieonly traitors use oftc
16:49.53abrotmanuhhuh
16:50.08AndroidDat1where are the files for suphp?
16:50.38pickcoderAndroidDat1: consider installing slocate
16:50.51abrotmanor just use updatedb
16:50.59abrotmanno reason ot install slocate unless you're paranoid
16:51.00pickcoderAndroidDat1: or read up on the Debian FHS
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16:51.28AndroidDat1um
16:51.31fs-ais sid's 'cryptsetup' broken today?
16:51.37fs-a:|
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16:51.39abrotman!bts
16:51.39dpkgwell, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges
16:51.40pickcoderthe same type of stuff goes in the same area, regardless of the software name
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16:52.10AndroidDat1nope. can't find it.
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16:52.27AndroidDat1what is suphp compiled with to use as a config file by default
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16:53.27abrotmanyou compiled it .. shouldn't you know ?
16:53.36AndroidDat1I didn't compile it!
16:53.41AndroidDat1It's the standard one from apt-get
16:53.43abrotmanthen dpkg -L <pkg>
16:53.50AndroidDat1thyat's why I came to debian in the first place
16:54.01abrotmanto yell at everyone?
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16:54.14PepperBoberm... EM64T equals AMD64 is that correct?
16:54.20abrotmanmostly
16:54.24AndroidDat1still nothing
16:54.31AndroidDat1the file "suphp.conf" does not exist
16:54.36abrotmanupdatedb && locate suphp
16:54.43AndroidDat1I did that
16:54.44AndroidDat1gah gtg
16:54.49AndroidDat1being called
16:55.00blondiebless
16:55.04magnet:)
16:55.22blondiemagnet: I bet you're attractive!
16:55.50magnethow could you tell? I have extrardinary big boobs..
16:56.09abrotmanbecause you're a magnet .. duh
16:56.10magnet(sorry but this joke is sooo repetitive: )
16:56.33magnetyep it's been 10 years now I hear it so I got it a few years ago ;)p
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16:57.34jellymagnet: I bet you're lousy at monopoly... ;-)
16:57.56magnetlol and I stick on the fridge and <insert tesla reference>, etc
16:58.05blondiedo you sell kitchens?
16:58.07pickcoderthat's repelling
16:58.09magnetand I shouldn't touch hard drives .. etc
16:58.10magnet:)
16:58.17NetcadBus 005 Device 002: ID 04e6:0325 SCM Microsystems, Inc. eUSB ORCA Quad Reader <--- what /dev/ could this be?
16:58.26pickcoderhardee har har
16:58.35abrotmanNetcad: it's a card reader ?
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16:58.52blondieNetcad: look in dmesg
16:59.05abrotmanprobably won't be any device til a card is plugged into it
16:59.37Netcadabrotman: yeah i know. but how can i mount it?
16:59.50pickcoderman I need a vacation
16:59.58magnetwell get the device node and mount it as vfat
16:59.59abrotmanput a card in .. then use dmesg to see where it is
17:00.02abrotman!vfatrw
17:00.02dpkgTo get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id".  This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux)..
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17:09.04pickcoderOT: if anyone is in the market for a nice soldering station, Weller is running a fall sale again
17:09.38XTFHi. I've got a problem with a DoS connect attack on my Apache 2 server. Manually adding the hosts to an iptables drop filter works but gets boring. Does anyone know of a proper solution for this?
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17:10.00pickcoderXTF: dynamic IP hitting it?
17:10.44XTFpickcoder: Just multiple unrelated IP addresses
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17:11.30pickcoderXTF: look at the evasive module for apache
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17:12.16pickcoderXTF: you can also write a script to scan your logs for requests within a short period and automatically add the iptables block
17:12.25pickcoderXTF: a cron job can drop them periodically
17:12.43XTFpickcoder: Is that module part of Debian?
17:12.49pickcoderXTF: yes
17:12.59simonrvnre
17:13.05cydorkXTF: check fail2ban too, that might work
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17:13.30blondiea fall sale? is that when they drop things on your head?
17:13.31panthere_noirehello
17:13.37XTFpickcoder: This module only works on Apache 1.3.x servers  :(
17:13.53simonrvnblondie: yup, that's why you have to wear a helmet
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17:14.51XTFpickcoder: I don't think the logs contain entries for open connections without requests.
17:15.05pickcoderXTF: there is a module for 2.0
17:15.20pickcoderXTF: I don't know if the deb has both versions or not
17:15.34pickcoderXTF: true
17:15.37astoriusis it possible to create an initrd image without cramfs?
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17:16.19pickcoderblondie: there's also the spring sale.. we sell lots of springs.. :/
17:16.30blondieo.o
17:16.37hburcheyHow is it possible that even after executing the following command, several packages are still marked 'A': aptitude search '~i' | awk '{print $2}' > inst; cat inst | xargs aptitude unmarkauto
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17:16.59simonrvnastorius: see Documentation/early-userspace/*
17:17.16simonrvnastorius: kernel source, of course, of course
17:18.00abrotmanhburchey: they might start with ~h
17:18.11simonrvnyeh
17:18.42simonrvnastorius: short answer is yes. long answer is depends on how you do it
17:19.13nvzhburchey: aptitude search '~i' | awk '{print $2}' | tr "\n" " " | xargs aptitude unmarkauto
17:19.31pickcoderXTF: yeah.. the package only has a 1.3 module
17:19.47pickcoderXTF: still, it's not hard to install an apache module and set it up
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17:20.32pickcoderXTF: you can get a 2.0 version from freshmeat.
17:20.39hburcheyabrotman, Is ~h a search term?
17:20.49abrotmanjust as much as ~i
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17:21.06hburcheyabrotman, It doesn't seem to be listed with the other search terms in the reference manual... unless I'm blind =)
17:21.15abrotmanok
17:21.28XTFpickcoder: The manual page doesn't describe the connect attack though.
17:21.37SaidinUnleashed"THIS IS NOT #ubuntu" I like it
17:21.40nvzhburchey: did you try what i told you?
17:21.42pickcoderXTF: what do you mean?
17:21.48hburcheynvz, Yes and it didn't work.
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17:21.56nvzSaidinUnleashed: you only have to know it, you dont have to like it
17:22.00XTFpickcoder: It's only talking about requests, but not connections that just don't do a request.
17:22.08bedboihi there, where can i ask for help on debian packaging?
17:22.49stewbedboi: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org
17:23.09hburcheynvz, For starters the command line you gave me will try to run two aptitude processes at once which will interfere with each, but even when I reinserted the > inst; cat inst thing, it still didn't work.
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17:23.48nvzhburchey: ok I am looking at it sideways this time :P
17:23.49pickcoderXTF: just set a short timeout in Apache
17:24.01pickcoderXTF: review the TimeOut directive
17:24.07XTFpickcoder: That's unlikely to work ok.
17:24.19pickcoderXTF: it's either that or a custom port sentry
17:25.13pickcoderXTF: you can always setup a proxy
17:25.32pickcoderXTF: so that Apache isn't directly affected by hostage connections
17:25.34SaidinUnleashednvz, I didn't mean it like that :P
17:26.31XTFpickcoder: Isn't there a tool that periodically checks 'netstat' output and can block any host that has more than say 10 connections open?
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17:27.11pickcoderXTF: no idea, but I'm sure it can be written in bash, perl, PHP, etc in a few minutes
17:27.14abrotmanhburchey: what are you actually trying to do?
17:27.54pickcoderXTF: you may more control with a proxy in the middle
17:28.04pickcodermay have
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17:29.08hburcheyabrotman, I inherited a debian box with all sorts of junk on it. I want to make every one of the installed packages markauto. Then I'm going to manually unmarkauto the ones I wanna keep and let it remove all the stuff that isn't a dependency or an unmarkauto.
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17:29.35abrotmanhburchey: deborphan might help
17:30.11hburcheyabrotman, No. deborphan doesn't check the auto flag.
17:30.20SaidinUnleashedis there a place I can report bugs? maybe a bugzilla?
17:31.06pickcoder!bts
17:31.06dpkgit has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges
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17:36.11AndroidDat1hi. I installed the suphp-common package with apt-get. I want to know where I need to put my config. files. the official read me says that "The suPHP configuration file resides in $sysconfdir/suphp.conf (which will
17:36.12AndroidDat1resolve e.g. to /etc/suphp.conf)." and I put it suphp.conf in /etc but it won't parse it. any help?
17:36.51abrotmanhburchey: it can clean up
17:36.53abrotmanAndroidDat1: have you check /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/* ?
17:37.08abrotmans/check/checked/
17:37.15AndroidDat1that directory does not exist
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17:37.26abrotmanwhat package is this ?
17:37.27AndroidDat1nvm
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17:37.37AndroidDat1I found a gz fil
17:37.39abrotmannvm what?
17:37.55abrotmanso the directory wasn't there .. and now it has a .gz file ?
17:38.19abrotmanor have you tried man 8 suphp ?
17:38.21Aldo-Resethi does resolver may use ld5 key ?
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17:38.38AndroidDat1it is there
17:38.44AndroidDat1it has a changelog file
17:39.21abrotmanor check for the actual /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-suphp/ or /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-suphp/
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17:40.08pickcoderAndriodDat1: silly question, but did you restart Apache2?
17:40.19AndroidDat1I found those and it has a file named "CONFIG" in it, but it only gives me info I already know (configuring apache)
17:40.23AndroidDat1I use apache 1.3
17:40.25AndroidDat1and I restarted it yes
17:40.46abrotmanthe README.Debian doesn't have where the conf file goes ?
17:40.57AndroidDat1README.debian?
17:41.01abrotmanor README.gz .. whatever it is
17:41.01AndroidDat1that file does not exist.
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17:41.10pickcoderAndroidDat1: try stopping it and then "ps ax | grep apache" to see it the parent process is lingering around
17:41.13AndroidDat1there is no readme
17:41.24AndroidDat1there is no process
17:41.34AndroidDat1suphp is ran only when a PHP script is executed
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17:42.05pickcoderAndroidDat1: it's an apache module that has to be loaded at start time
17:42.17AndroidDat1<_<
17:42.21AndroidDat1yes it is
17:42.24Siddhartai really really need your help to get rid of an issue which get me crazy
17:42.41AndroidDat1bah. phpmyadmin won't work because it complains of the php file not being in DOCUMENT_ROOT
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17:42.46AndroidDat1its a virtual server <_<
17:42.51Siddhartaat each reboot my network interfaces changes of name , so i didi 2 things:
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17:43.06AndroidDat1and PHPMYADMIN is in /var/www configured with Alias /phpmyadmin/ /var/www/phpmyadmin/
17:43.16AndroidDat1(my home dir is in /var/www/datatheandroid)
17:43.25AndroidDat1(suexec likes /var/www)
17:43.26DeepaAndroidDat1: its a symlink
17:43.33AndroidDat1ya
17:43.44pickcoderAndriodat1: post your directory block for /var/www/phpmyadmin in #flood
17:43.53Siddharta1- create /etc/modutils/interfaces which contains
17:43.53Siddhartaalias eth0 e100
17:43.53Siddhartaalias eth1 ipw2100
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17:44.01AndroidDat1it tells me that /var/www/phpmyadmin/index.php is not in document root and that the document_root = /var/www/datatheandroid/public_html
17:44.29AndroidDat1um I have no directory block?
17:44.29Siddharta2-create /etc/udev/rules.d/010_netinterfaces.rules which contains
17:44.30SiddhartaKERNEL=="eth*", SYSFS{address}=="00:0c:f1:36:3e:eb", NAME="eth1"
17:44.30SiddhartaKERNEL=="eth*", SYSFS{address}=="00:0f:1f:c1:de:99", NAME="eth0"
17:44.37AndroidDat1well I dunno
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17:44.46AndroidDat1I need to configure suphp to work; apache already works
17:44.57pickcoderAndroidDat1: if you don't have one, then there are no permissions for /var/www/phpmyadmin
17:45.00AndroidDat1I need suphp to realise forcing DOCUMENT_ROOT won't work
17:45.08AndroidDat1okok in that case I have the default
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17:45.20AndroidDat1I reinstalled phpmyadmin a few minutes ago
17:45.28AndroidDat1purged all config files
17:45.36Siddhartaand now i always have an eth2_temp which take ipw2100 one reboot on 2
17:45.44AndroidDat1I need to configure suphp to ignore DOC_ROOT.
17:46.06AndroidDat1I can do this with the config file, but it appearantly won't read it if I put it in /etc, even though that's what the manual says (The suPHP configuration file resides in $sysconfdir/suphp.conf)
17:46.14AndroidDat1...what is $sysconfdir?
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17:46.41DeepaAndroidDat1: most likely /etc
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17:46.50AndroidDat1I put it there
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17:47.02seldonpossibly /etc/suphp or so
17:47.23Siddhartano one has got an idea for my issue
17:47.32AndroidDat1didn't work.
17:47.32seldon$sysconfdir is most likely a variable passed to configure at compiletime
17:47.46AndroidDat1and since I didn't compile it, I have no idea what that value is! >_<
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17:48.01pickcoderAndroidDat1: it's normally /etc/php4
17:48.09seldonwhich distro is that, androiddat1?
17:48.11pickcoderAndroidDat1: look in the apache directory there for php.ini
17:48.18seldonSiddharta: a sec, I'll check something
17:48.40Deepaspeaking of which
17:48.44Deepahow do you kill mime-magic?
17:48.53AndroidDat1php4 directory has 2 directories: cgi & cli
17:48.55Deepaevery single php.ini i have on my HDD has it disabled
17:49.14pickcoderAndroidDat1: then you don't have PHP installed for Apache?
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17:49.42AndroidDat1php-cgi is installed.
17:49.45seldonSiddharta: I'm not sure you can name them eth0 or eth1, since those names are already present in the kernel. I for my part named my ethernet cards lan and wlan respectively
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17:50.23AndroidDat1suphp's job is to take over as php, and run the "php" command added by php-cgi. it's job is to change the UID/GID for php apps so I can make php stuff without dying <_<
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17:50.28daduihi
17:50.31seldonAndroidDat1: Which linux distro do you use?
17:50.36AndroidDat1dadui: Bye!
17:50.40AndroidDat1debian/sarge
17:50.50AndroidDat13.1
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17:51.06Siddhartaseldon: so in the both file i should change the name ??
17:51.07seldondpkg -L suphp | grep /etc/ should show something useful there
17:51.07dpkgii  suphp | grep /etc/ should show something useful there                 1.6-13.2           seldon's private gamp collection
17:51.23robyI have debian at home, i'm at work on a WinXP box... i need to use my firefox that is installed at home, how shall i proceed?
17:51.44seldonSiddharta: That is what I would do, anyway
17:51.47DeepaX forwarding :D?
17:51.52Deeparoby: try x forwarding :)
17:52.03pickcoderAndroid: if modphp for Apache isn't installed then you won't have a php.ini under /etc/phpX
17:52.07robyDeepa: is there a URL outlining the steps?
17:52.13Siddhartaoki i will try thx seldon
17:52.15Deeparoby: putty has a guide
17:52.16AndroidDat1modphp is installed.
17:52.21Deepacan see if i can find it
17:52.31seldonoh, and make sure you got the mac addresses right
17:52.34AndroidDat1I have a php.ini
17:52.37AndroidDat14 of em
17:52.40pickcoderAndroidDat1: where are they?
17:52.49AndroidDat1<PROTECTED>
17:52.54AndroidDat1cgi & cli are the dir names
17:52.59Deeparoby: www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html
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17:53.24Deeparoby: if that one doesnt work, google putt+x forwarding and get the tutorial from earth.li
17:53.29AndroidDat1the name is AndroidData, not AndroidDat1
17:53.32Deepathe.earth.li*
17:53.37AndroidData<_<
17:53.38DeepaAndroidData: you sure?
17:53.40shpondHello
17:53.40AndroidDatayes
17:53.43AndroidData:P
17:53.46Deepahello shpond
17:53.49AndroidDatahiiiiii
17:53.52HemogoblinHello. Any simple way I can see what changed between two package versions? Does apt carry such info? Is there a frontend that does?
17:53.55Deepaow sorry people im getting almost frustrated at life
17:53.58robyDeepa: thanks
17:53.59Deepaim gonna go smash somethign brb
17:54.02Deeparoby: yw :)
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17:54.33AndroidData...does Deepa work for my ISP?
17:54.50AndroidData(19:54:14) Deepa: im gonna go smash somethign brb
17:54.59AndroidDataoh dear
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17:55.11BlissexHemogoblin: most packages come with a ChangeLog file in their doc dir.
17:55.17AndroidDatayay for internal server error
17:55.19AndroidData>_>
17:55.22pickcoderAndroidData: grep "php" /etc/apache/modules.conf
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17:55.39AndroidDataLoadmodule suphp_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_suphp.so
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17:55.53pickcoderAndroidData: there is no module for PHP4 or PHP5
17:55.55AndroidDatathe problem isn't with running php
17:56.02AndroidDatawww.datatheandroid.com/test.php
17:56.08AndroidDatashell_exec("whoami") returns properly
17:56.14HemogoblinBlissex: thanks, good to know. I see packages.debian.org also has the changelog.
17:56.16shpondgood
17:56.38pickcoderok
17:56.40AndroidDatathe problem is with www.datatheandroid.com/phpmyadmin - it gives me an internal server error and the suphp.log file says that it may not run it because it's not in DOCUMENT_ROOT
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17:57.06AndroidDataI aliased it properly, but appearantly DOCUMENT_ROOT = /var/www/datatheandroid/public_html
17:57.36AndroidDataI need DOCUMENT_ROOT to be set to /var/www, but I can't find the suphp config files to do so
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17:59.02AndroidDatasms
17:59.10AndroidDatasave my soul. please. think of mee
17:59.16AndroidData:(
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18:00.47jessyhello
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18:01.23AndroidDatahiho
18:01.25AndroidDataare you my angel?
18:01.37pickcoderAndroidData: did  you try putting suphp.conf in /etc/suphp/ instead of /etc/?
18:01.54AndroidDatayes
18:01.56AndroidDatano effect.
18:02.34pickcoderwhat release are you running?
18:02.40AndroidDatadebian/sarge 3.1
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18:03.21gusgusanyone have experience with dhclient?  I keep getting a DHCPDISCOVER on eth1, then a DHCPOFFER on eth1, than a DCHPREQUEST on eth1, over and over (eth0 works fine though)
18:03.25rhalffhi when I install an smp kernel, the bootup hangs, I have no experience with mult processor systems, do I have to change something in the bios also maybe ?
18:03.38rhalffs/mult/multi/ etc.
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18:06.04KGback
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18:06.26KGbeen trying out Debian
18:06.52AndroidDatadissappointed?
18:06.55AndroidDatawant another os?
18:07.03AndroidData:(
18:07.07KGI dont think so
18:07.08nvzKG: yeah me too for like 6 years
18:07.20KGits pretty well built
18:07.28pickcoderAndroidData: suphp isn't shown in Sarge
18:07.31KGnot too difficult to begin with
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18:07.54KGhave sid
18:09.01AndroidData:S
18:09.05AndroidDataits called suphp-common
18:09.09AndroidDatathe package
18:09.15pickcoderAndroidData: http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/
18:09.17AndroidDataits an older version appearantly
18:09.33AndroidDatao.O
18:09.41AndroidDataO.o
18:09.50pickcoderAndroidData: http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/
18:09.50AndroidDatao.o
18:09.52pickcoderEtch has it
18:09.57KGbeen  2 weeks
18:09.58pickcoderunless you are using backports
18:10.12AndroidDataoh
18:10.20pickcoderor.. you're running Etch and you have no clue that you are
18:10.21pickcoder:/
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18:11.00AndroidDataI'm running 5.0
18:11.01AndroidData:|
18:11.09pickcoder5.0 what?
18:11.15AndroidData5.1.3ish
18:11.55KGone issue till now.
18:12.24KGmounting Maxtor
18:12.34pickcoderAndroidData: cat /etc/debian_version
18:13.13AndroidData3.1
18:13.30pickcodercat /proc/version
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18:14.45AndroidDataLinux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005
18:14.50KGmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,
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18:15.07AndroidDatahow do I add the debian testing thing to apt-get?
18:15.07jessyW: GPG error: http://debian.tu-bs.de sid Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu être vérifiées car la clé publique n'est pas disponible : NO_PUBKEY FB1A399A71409CDF
18:15.07jessy<PROTECTED>
18:15.40nvzKG: make that two problems, you have no idea how to communicate in here
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18:16.10KGi understand. shall take care of that.
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18:18.13pickcoderAndroidData: you got suphp through apt-get?
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18:18.33AndroidDatano
18:18.38AndroidDataI got suphp-common through apt-get
18:18.42AndroidDataI need the testing builds
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18:23.34pickcoderbbl
18:24.05jessywhere can i find sources.list for madwifi ?
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18:24.38mishkizhello all.....anybody know any command that show the creation date of a file/dir ?
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18:26.17AndroidDatals -l ?
18:26.29mishkizls -l shows the modified date.....
18:26.32roxy_I got a package that segfault (granule on unstable) when started. No other information. Is there any way I could try to know more ?
18:26.34AndroidDataoh
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18:26.53rhalffany ideas why a -smp kernel would hang, with two dual core opterons ? I'm trying kernel 2.6.16-2-amd64-k8-smp
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18:27.44rhalffdo I have to configure anything else for two dual core processors ?
18:33.18AndroidData......
18:33.29AndroidDataOKAY! I want suphp running properly now!
18:33.44AndroidDatajesus christ!
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18:35.15danixoops sry wrong drag and drop :)
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18:35.52danixanyway, is udev + initramfs in sid working for u?  my udev complains about missing /dev directory
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18:37.00rhalffis it possible to get any debug info when a kernel fails to start ?
18:37.06DaBladeHow long does it take apt to give up on a repository that's not responding?
18:37.57danixrhalff: how it fails?
18:38.05emlHow to I add user "eml" to group "staff"?
18:38.20danixeml: man adduser
18:38.21danix:D
18:38.35emlCan adduser modify too?
18:38.44danixyes
18:38.52emlOk, thanks
18:39.09emlAnd I suppose I can just make up groups? :P
18:39.25danixeml: addgroup
18:40.14emlYeah, staff exists though
18:40.18nvzeml: if your respect meter is high enough
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18:40.56nvzotherwise people will refuse your groups
18:41.24nvzrefuse to join them that is
18:41.30danixthats called authority... not respect.. :)
18:41.33eml:P
18:41.57jessym-a a-i madwifi gives me an error : "The required compiler gcc-4.0 is not installed, expect trouble!" the installed version is : gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 gcc (GCC) 4.1.2  // what can i do ?
18:41.59danixpope has authority to change lots of group membership
18:42.12abrotmanso install gcc-4.0
18:42.19eml"adduser --GID 1001" said "user eml already exists." though
18:42.33rhalffdanix, last message is boot, just show the entry from grub. then it hangs.
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18:42.33danixeml read the man 1000 times
18:42.38nvzeml: man usermod
18:42.41rhalffshows
18:42.42abrotmanjessy: just install gcc-4.0
18:42.45emldanix, ..
18:42.47danixrhalff: thats bad
18:43.00danixeml the answer is there... just read
18:43.02emlThanks nvz
18:43.03magnetaddgroup user group
18:43.04magnet:)
18:43.05abrotmanjessy: it wants that version because your kernel was compiled with 4.0
18:43.10emldanix, Well usermod did it
18:43.10AndroidData<PROTECTED>
18:43.14AndroidDataI'M GOING NUTS HERE!
18:43.15jessyahh ok...
18:43.18rhalffdanix, any way to get more info ? it's just a standard kernel from testing, amd64-k8-smp
18:43.19danixeml adduser does it too
18:43.22AndroidDataWhat the FUCK is going on?!
18:43.23emldanix, Oh, ok
18:43.26jessythanks ;)
18:43.38AndroidDataI want to install suphp on my box, so I can have my PHP scripts run as my own user!
18:43.48abrotmanjessy: cat /proc/version to see that
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18:43.56AndroidDataThat's IT. I don't want/need to program nuclear missiles, hack into government computers or anything like that!
18:43.59jessyok thanks ;)
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18:44.08magnetAndroidData: are you sure you need suPHP in the first place? ;)
18:44.11abrotmanAndroidData: but i heard you can do those things with suphp
18:44.13AndroidDataYES.
18:44.19AndroidDataI AM SURE.
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18:44.32roxy_<PROTECTED>
18:44.34AndroidDataI tried installing the SUPHP from the debian apt-get thing
18:44.48nvzroxy_: 1024
18:44.50AndroidDatawhat I get in return? It refuses running my apps based on "DOCUMENT_ROOT", which I have no way of resetting!
18:44.50abrotmanAndroidData: is this for apache1 or 2 ?
18:44.52jewardIs there a way to monitor whether a disk is mounted rw or ro via SNMP?
18:44.53AndroidDataapache1
18:44.56danixnoone using udev + initramfs on sid? can anyone  confirm its (not) working?
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18:44.59nvzroxy_: cylinders that is
18:45.00abrotmanyou can set document root
18:45.00AndroidDataso NATURALLY I begin compiling my own
18:45.04roxy_nvz: thanks for you help :-)
18:45.04AndroidDataand now it won't run at all!
18:45.06abrotman!enter
18:45.06dpkgThe enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or  ellipsis '...' instead.  Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying).
18:45.15roxy_how big is  a cylinder ?
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18:45.21abrotmandepends on the car
18:45.23nvzroxy_: no problem give a 1 dimensional question get a 1 dimensional answer
18:45.24AndroidData!bah
18:45.24dpkgrumour has it, bah is everyone's other favourite word (see heh)
18:45.25nvzAndroidData: heh
18:45.28nvzer
18:45.28danixroxy depends on head :)
18:45.30nvzabrotman: heh
18:45.42AndroidData!heh
18:45.43dpkgMany would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work.  "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such.  Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh
18:45.50abrotmanAndroidData: stop already
18:46.02AndroidData!stop
18:46.02dpkgPLEASE STOP!
18:46.07AndroidDataoh ok
18:46.13abrotmannot funny
18:46.14jewardIs there a way to monitor whether a disk is mounted rw or ro via SNMP?
18:46.31danixjeward: get rid of SNMP, fast! :)
18:46.37AndroidDataapache won't run PHP scripts anymore. what is wrong?
18:46.47abrotmanyou broke it
18:46.50AndroidDataphp4 is installed. suphp is installed.
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18:46.57AndroidDatawell, how do I fix it?!
18:46.57magnetI think this is a common case of pebkac :)
18:46.58nvzAndroidData: User Error, replace user and bang head off keyboard to continue.
18:47.01danixAndroidData: config - enable modules
18:47.04jewarddanix: Why?  I need to monitor disk mount methods via nagios.
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18:47.13AndroidDataI *did*
18:47.21AndroidDataI enabled the suphp module; the only one that's needed
18:47.21abrotmanis libapache2-mod-php4 installed ?
18:47.26AndroidData?
18:47.27nvzAndroidData: how did it feal ? ;)
18:47.28AndroidDataNo.
18:47.37AndroidData*bashes head against screen*
18:47.38magnetabrotman: he's using apache1
18:47.39abrotmanis this for apache1 or apache2 ?
18:47.41danixlol
18:47.43abrotmanok .. fine
18:47.46abrotmanlibapache-mod-php4
18:47.47abrotmanwhatever
18:47.47AndroidDataI detect minor damage to the brain.
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18:47.57AndroidDataI mustn't install libapache-mod-php4!
18:47.58roxy_on a 60GB hd, where is the 1024th cylinder ?
18:48.01AndroidDatasuphp doesn't like it!
18:48.05AndroidDatait won't run, it says
18:48.07magnetAndroidData: we decline any responsability :)
18:48.12abrotmanit's crap .. start over
18:48.16jewarddanix: Why get rid of SNMP?  I need to monitor disk mount methods via nagios.
18:48.23nvzroxy_: right between the 1023rd and 1025th
18:48.26AndroidData<_<
18:48.35danixjeward: its 'crazy' and not secure
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18:49.03jewarddanix: How would you monitor mount options with nagios then?
18:49.10magnetyou can't, there would be a nick collision :)
18:49.16danixnot sure, i last checked nagios few years ago
18:49.44abrotmanhave you checked the bts ?
18:49.47jewarddanix: Well, we have SNMP installed on 200+ servers, so... I may as well use it.
18:49.48AndroidDataoh
18:50.12AndroidDatabetter?
18:50.27AndroidDatanow if you'll excuse me, I'll be all emo and sit in the corner until I get help.
18:50.29roxy_is that  true: with lilo both lilo and kernel image should be under the 1024th cylinder, with grub only grub has to be under the 1024th cylinder?
18:50.34nvzroxy_: you know if your bios supports LBA this doesnt matter
18:50.38blondieAndroidData: how cute!
18:50.47danixroxy_:  false
18:51.04SpCombdepends...
18:51.09abrotmanroxy_: that's not true anymore
18:51.09danix:D
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18:51.34SpCombwell, if you are trying to install linux onto a 20 year old computer it may well be relevant :)
18:51.52AndroidDatablondie: :(
18:51.59abrotmanyour 20 year old computer doesn't have a large enough HDD to run lilo and a kernel :)
18:52.28AndroidDatablondie: :O (tilt head 90 degrees counter-clockwise)
18:52.45blondieanti-clockwise. and I know how smileys work!
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18:53.04AndroidDatayou're blond.
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18:53.19AndroidDatathat is a contradiction
18:53.21AndroidDataerror. error.
18:53.24abrotmando the curtains match the carpets? :)
18:53.36nvzheh
18:53.40blondieoops, I burnt out a circuit
18:53.42AndroidData>:(
18:54.16AndroidDataheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllp
18:54.24AndroidDatai have the addhandler for php defined
18:54.35blondieyou need the module too
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18:55.22AndroidDatawhy?
18:55.22jewardCan anyone tell me if I can see whether disks are mounted rw or ro from SNMP?
18:55.27AndroidDataI should already have the module
18:55.33AndroidDatait was working before I uninstalled suphp
18:55.42AndroidDataapt-get said it didn't remove anything else
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18:56.21ph00is there anything like "reverse wine"? I have a freent dunning almost 24/7 on debian etch, but I'm also installing a stripped-down windows for gaming. I wonder if it's possible to keep freenet running with a linux emulatore while I'm playing games on windows
18:56.43enoufjeward: cat /proc/mounts - see http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO.html
18:56.50AndroidDataPlease note, that mod_suphp in most cases will *NOT* work, when mod_php is installed and used in your Apache server because both use the same mime type"x-httpd-php".
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18:56.53AndroidDataum
18:56.56AndroidDatait says that
18:57.00nvzph00: cygwin, vmware player
18:57.15abrotmanAndroidData: the more annoying you are .. the less it makes people want to help
18:57.31abrotmanhelpful hint for the day :)
18:57.33AndroidData<.<
18:57.49abrotmani can't believe the docs for suphp suck this bad
18:58.02AndroidDatasms!
18:58.30blondieI like to help cute people.
18:58.30jewardenouf: I need to monitor this from nagios on a remote machine.
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18:58.46Toastdoes anyone know if using lvm spanning, or software raid 0 would give the best performance for a media drive?
18:59.41ph00nvz I'll check those out, thx
18:59.48danixAndroidData: no, too much dehumanized.
18:59.56AndroidDatasorry
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19:00.15nvzapt, person
19:00.29aptrumour has it, person is like a bot, but squishier, or a meat popscicle
19:00.29nvzoh well apt is still dead
19:00.35nvzmaybe not
19:02.01danixAndroidData: could be worse if you worked for army, lol
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19:03.30astoriussimonrvn: thank you! :)
19:04.40AndroidDatathe army? YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST US, SOLDIER?!
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19:05.07AndroidDatadanix: keep in mind, you are expendable.
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19:05.32AndroidDatastill, what do I do
19:05.32liviudhello
19:05.44AndroidDataum
19:05.47AndroidDatauh
19:05.53AndroidDataNo Comment.
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19:06.07danixAndroidData: NO, SARGE, etch or SID!
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19:06.42liviudI've got a question about the network init script in /etc/init.d ( running unstable here ). I've seen /etc/network/interfaces has an option called hwaddr which should specify the mac address for the given interface, but it doesn't actually work. Any idea why it doesn't?
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19:06.58liviudI mean i've read the scripts and as I see it just ignores it.
19:07.30danixliviud: interesting. i will have to try this one :)
19:08.04AndroidData:(
19:08.05liviudand all in all I just want to change my mac address before it tries getting an ip through dhcp. I'm too lazy to call my isp and change my mac address in their database. My old nic crashed a few days ago.
19:08.21tuvliviud, if you want to specify which card an interface configures, you may want to look at mapping scripts
19:08.22AndroidDataI can't switch.
19:08.27AndroidDataI need suphp ASAP.
19:08.32AndroidDatahelp..
19:08.46abrotmani don't even know what he's got broken anymore
19:08.47liviudtuv: no, it's not that. My nic actually died, and I'm too lazy to call them to change my mac address in their tables.
19:08.53danixlol liviud thats prolly readonly option - helping to select right networkcard
19:08.54abrotmanhe's just been rambling for what .. an hour now ?
19:09.11danixwrite your own script to be used in /etc/rcS.d
19:09.12kristalinoAndroidData, go and get a gentoo
19:09.46abrotmankristalino: that's no help
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19:10.02AndroidDataabrotman: Two hours, thirty-six minutes and fifty-two seconds.
19:10.02liviuddanix: aham. Anyway i ran ubuntu earlier today and the option in there worked and i was wondering why it doesn't in unstable, prolly because it's unstable :))
19:10.08twobitspritehow do I point my debian system to a time server?
19:10.14abrotmanAndroidData: sorry .. i haven't been listening to you whine the whole time :)
19:10.18abrotman!tell twobitsprite about ntp
19:10.20AndroidDataits ok
19:10.27AndroidData!ntp
19:10.27dpkgsomebody said ntp was the Network Time Protocol.  Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage.  Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already.  (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.)  See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information.
19:10.29tuvtwobitsprite, install ntpdate and ntp-simple
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19:10.53liviuddanix: and yeah, I've read the topic... _now_ :-)
19:11.25twobitspritethanks
19:11.26abrotmanAndroidData: stop doing that already
19:11.34AndroidDataokok
19:11.37liviuddanix: anyway, thanks. Laters
19:11.38AndroidDataI just want help
19:11.51abrotmanbeing annoying doesn't get you help .. it gets you ignored or kicked
19:11.57AndroidData<.<
19:12.04danixAndroidData: please not he is trying to help u
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19:12.07danixnote*
19:12.09Deepaabrotman: correction, and/or
19:12.14abrotmannotice how many people were trying to help you before you got annoying .. and how many are now
19:12.27abrotmanDeepa: both just as good :)
19:12.42AndroidDatagah this confuses me
19:12.47danixthe art of asking right way is very good knowhow
19:12.49g3brownGoing to build another Sarge server and I'm hardware shopping.  Does Sarge support the 915G chipset okay?
19:12.50AndroidDataall I want to do is install suphp. that shouldn't be so hard...
19:12.52abrotmanAndroidData: try to summarize your problem again .. in one paragraph ..
19:12.52Deepai kick people, and then just not answer their wine
19:12.55Deepawhine*
19:13.05Deepaits funny how much they insult you when they think you have ignored them
19:13.08abrotmanAndroidData: if you summarize on fifteen lines .. you'll get ignored again .. it's just too hard to follow
19:13.13twobitspriteok, so now I've gone backwards in time... do I need to update timestamps? I remember onetime adjusting my time backwards messed a lot of stuff up because of timestamps being in the future
19:13.18tuvhmm.. interesting.. any mac address spoofing tools in debian?
19:13.28CHodappifconfig
19:13.29abrotmantwobitsprite: they'll catch up eventually
19:13.40abrotmantwobitsprite: some things might whine at first .. but it'll be okay later
19:13.46twobitspriteabrotman: k
19:14.05abrotman"ACK .. this file is from the future! .. Sam wants to know how to get home!"
19:14.32abrotmanAl was so useless
19:14.38tuvliviud, did you try that using ifconfig?
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19:15.13AndroidDataI want my PHP applications to run under my own user (datatheandroid) rather than the apache user (www-data). I saw a program called suphp which would be capable of doing this without having to go through the hassle of PHP as a CGI app (which I tested and doesn't work <_<). I got helped a bit and managed to install suphp with apt-get (the suphp-common package) but got an outdated version (5.1.3ish I think) without the configuration file support
19:15.40Where|hereI try to "apt-get install shared-mime-info", but I get a segfault as shown at http://pastebin.ca/162667. Is there anything I can do to fix it? (I googled to no avail)
19:16.05AndroidDataoops. forgot to tell: the configuration file allows me to say what is docroot and if it should check docroot. otherwise you'd have to compile it, which I did
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19:16.38danixAndroidData: 1) common is not the core of what u need. just some common stuff. install libapache2-mod-suphp
19:16.57danix(if you are using apache2)
19:17.20danixAndroidData: what distro? what apache?
19:17.29AndroidDataI don't use apache2; I use apache1. I already removed all of those things, and downloaded the latest version and compiled it. I've got the suphp apache1 mod, and I included it, and defined AddHandler, but it still won't let me run php apps
19:17.44danix<PROTECTED>
19:18.21danixAndroidData: if you compiled from source, you should rather ask on #apache
19:18.24danixor #php
19:18.29AndroidDatainstalled
19:18.33hburcheyGrr, How can I display all the packages that have standard priority and are virtual using aptitude search? aptitude search ~pstandard ~v seems to contcatenate the terms rather than give the union.
19:18.43AndroidDataok I can run php apps again it seems
19:18.48danixAndroidData: thats all how can i help now :)
19:19.31AndroidDataok I can run php apps now but I can't goto phpmyadmin. it's giving me an internal server error and on the background suphp is silently failing because DOCUMENT_ROOT = /var/www/datatheandroid/public_html & phpmyadmin directory = /var/www/phpmyadmin (it's globally alias'd)
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19:20.09danixAndroidData: read apache logs
19:20.26AndroidDatathere is no apache log.
19:20.33danixmake one
19:20.39danix:D
19:20.42AndroidDataI just make up an error?
19:21.02danixAndroidData: when something goes wrong, LOOK INTO LOGS
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19:21.09danixthats first thing you have to do
19:21.12AndroidDataok I'll look into the suphp log
19:21.20AndroidDataUhmm. I already did. I told you what the log said
19:21.34AndroidDataScript /var/www/phpmyadmin//index.php is not in the DOCUMENT_ROOT (/var/www/datatheandroid/public_html)
19:21.46danixaha :) thats the problem prolly
19:21.46danix:D
19:22.01AndroidDatayes. question is: how do you set DOCUMENT_ROOT so it'll accept anything in /var/www ?
19:22.53danixand your public html also?
19:22.59AndroidDataya
19:23.07AndroidData(actually, public_html = a virtual host)
19:23.11danixcannot remember :)
19:23.16danixtry #apache maybe
19:23.24danixand be kind! :)
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19:23.41w3rdn4Anyone know how ot make 75k a year from at home?
19:23.52Braindeadw3rdn4: selll a kidney
19:23.58danixlol
19:24.00w3rdn4Braindead, osm
19:24.04w3rdn4isn't that illegal?
19:24.16danixif its yours one...
19:24.22g3brownw3rdn4: get a ccie cert
19:25.11LoneWlfw3rdn4, I did it once for IBM
19:25.15LoneWlfbut it wasn't worth it
19:25.22LoneWlfyou don't have regularly scheduled business hours
19:25.47w3rdn4well I am 22 going to college and trying to figure out how to make 75k while going to college.
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19:26.27danixw3rdn4: army can pay your college... but thats bad option.
19:26.36g3brownw3rdn4: if you figure it out let me know and I get you a book deal for much more.
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19:29.56g3brownI would like a motherboard that  Sarge supports the SATA controller on natively.  Only other requirement is that is it still available for purchase new.
19:30.13mikedubwhat's the best way to monitor processes to make sure they're running, and if not, notify someone and/or start them?
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19:31.23sysophi does anyone know of a debian package for festival-gaim?
19:31.28danixmikedub: hire few policeman to guard them...    or try  runit
19:32.03jessyI installed debian (etch) on my macbook and i have a thing called "AppleTalk Services" which boot every times how to remove it ?? (it takes too much time at boot)
19:32.41AndroidDataquick!
19:32.42sysopyea everyone has that. I have that on my amd box. it does take forever to boot with that though.
19:32.48mikedubdanix: thanks.
19:32.58AndroidDatahow do I make a symlink to /var/www/phpmyadmin take effect on every user?
19:33.18AndroidDataI wanna make a symlink in /var/www/*/public_html/phpmyadmin that leads to /var/www/phpmyadmin. any command to do it quickly?
19:33.47danixAndroidData: it might be better for you to hire some young man do it for you. :) you have too many questions... :)
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19:33.56sysopjessy cheers to you for getting rid of macos.
19:34.04Bushmillsmiikedub, not sure about "the best", but your can start them from inittab, as respawn
19:34.19simonrvnjessy: you can set that to start in the background
19:34.32Bushmillsthat way, the will restart automatically  after they terminate
19:34.50simonrvnjessy: /etc/default/netatalk
19:34.50jessyok
19:34.55danixAndroidData: for i in /var/www/*/p.....    do ; .... ; done
19:34.58simonrvnwell, that's if you want to keep it
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19:35.24Braindeaddanix: you know he's gonna ask you to fill in the blanks,don't you ?
19:35.45danixi am ready to send my bank account number to fill
19:35.47danix:D
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19:35.48simonrvnjessy: if you want to get rid of it entirely, dpkg -P netatalk; i suppose you know what it's for?
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19:36.16jessyno i don't know
19:36.22AndroidDataI am young
19:36.27simonrvnappletalk server stuff
19:36.27satans_banjoi've got a problem setting up pure-ftpd on debian through ssh. i get the error message "Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use". can anyone help?
19:36.28jessyi buyed macbook 2 days ago
19:36.35jessybefore i used ubuntu on a desktop
19:36.39Shadowcat....
19:36.41Shadowcatmacbooks suck
19:36.53jessy(sorry for my english, i'm a frenchie)
19:37.00abrotmaneww .. frenchie!
19:37.06Shadowcat!fr
19:37.06dpkgPour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net.
19:37.20jessyoh :)
19:37.37tuvjessy, looks like you have another program using the same port. probably another ftp server running?
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19:38.00satans_banjoi've got apache running but i'm not sure about any other ftps
19:38.04satans_banjomaybe mod-ftp?
19:38.09abrotmanShadowcat: i'd prbably enjoy it
19:38.19Braindeadsatans_banjo: fuser is your friend
19:38.20Shadowcatabrotman: we bar you from the red light district
19:38.22Shadowcat>:)
19:38.29satans_banjofuser?
19:38.50danixabrotman: u are american? or german? why so much hate for FR ?
19:38.57Braindeadsatans_banjo: fuser -v 21/tcp
19:39.05danixwe do not like hitler nor bush in all eu :)
19:39.31satans_banjo<PROTECTED>
19:39.31satans_banjo21/tcp               root       1465 f....  inetd
19:39.45satans_banjothats what i got - don't know what it means xD
19:39.51tuvsatananas, netstat and look for whoever is using the port that pro-ftp is setup to use.. hmm.. you read my mind!
19:40.02AndroidDataok it works
19:40.03abrotman!tell danix about u
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19:40.21satans_banjook cheers
19:40.45pickcoderg3brown: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
19:40.55tuvsatans_banjo, you got inetd serving ftp. disable the ftp service in inetd
19:40.59Davemanheh
19:41.03satans_banjoah ok thanks
19:41.26smacnay_is there a ps2html util?
19:41.35Davemansup abrotman
19:41.37danixabrotman: :D nice comix
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19:41.52abrotmanhi Daveman
19:41.58Davemanno rain \o/
19:42.02satans_banjotuv: you don't happen to know the direct command to disable inetd serving ftp do you?
19:42.25tuvsatans_banjo, i'd start by looking at /etc/inetd.conf
19:42.32simonrvncomment out the right line, restart inetd
19:42.38g3brownpickcoder: you recommend any specific board.  I have used that chart before and had problems.
19:42.39satans_banjook thanks
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19:43.37satans_banjosorry, but what would the right line be?
19:43.40pickcoderg3brown: that depends on memory requirements, CPU brand, and CPU type
19:43.52danixmy last try...    anyone here is using latest SID + udev + initramfs ?  is it working for u? booted?
19:43.53tuvsatans_banjo, something with ftp or 21 in it
19:43.55g3brownpickcoder: I don't really care, just something current and stable.
19:43.57satans_banjook
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19:44.19pickcoderg3brown: something current and stable is going to have a chip that a 2.4 kernel probably won't recognize
19:44.20g3brownpickcoder: intel 775 socket and above or amd s939 and above.
19:44.20abrotmang3brown: do you want hardware raid ?
19:44.29g3brownabrotman: no
19:44.31abrotmanpickcoder: sarge has a 2.6 kernel
19:44.43pickcoderabrotman: since which release?
19:44.50abrotmansince 3.1r0
19:44.53g3brownpickcoder: linux26 install with sarge is fine for me.
19:44.54pickcoderoh
19:44.58abrotman!info kernel-image-2.6-686 sarge
19:45.00pickcodershows how often I install stable
19:45.01pickcoder<g>
19:45.03Daveman:)
19:45.06abrotmanglad to see those pick coders keep up
19:45.08dpkgkernel-image-2.6-686: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4.), section base, is optional. Version: 101sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
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19:45.19pickcoder!beer abrotman
19:45.25Daveman:D
19:45.33g3brownabrotman: for hardware raid I have had GREAT experience with the 3ware products.
19:45.38simonrvnbbl
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19:45.40abrotmanor adaptec . both are fine
19:45.50danixguinness is not a real beer. visit czech republic to find the real deal!
19:45.53Davemanhmm SI
19:45.54pickcoderg3brown: yeah.. 3ware and adaptec (except the 1505S)
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19:46.11g3brownpickcoder: for this server, I just need 2 sata and a dvd-rom
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19:46.27tapplehow do I do aptitude remove nvidia* ?
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19:46.41ScribbleJHello... I've just installed Debian on my HPDL140 with SATA drive... I had a CDROM hooked up for the install, but need to remove it for production.  With the CDROM drive installed my system recognizes the ATA hard disc as hdc1 and boots ok... with the CDROM removed I cannot tell what designation it gives the ata disc because it kernel panics when it tries to pivot_root.
19:46.45danixtapple: aptitude remove nvidia-glx
19:46.51ScribbleJI'm sure there's some eas fix for this?
19:47.05g3brownpickcoder: Trying to keep the cost down, so I don't want the added expense of the 3ware card just to support 2 sata drivers.
19:47.13g3brownsp/drivers/drives
19:48.06g3brownJust want to put the disc in and install Sarge without have to compile or install drivers.
19:48.08tuvScribbleJ, did you try hda1?
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19:49.22ScribbleJtuv, I'll try that again, just in case... but it gets a touch more complex.  I hadda update to a 2.6 kernel for hardware support, and since then it makes it sda1 with the cdrom installed, and I still don't knwo what without it.  I tried hda once but it might have been pre-2.6
19:49.28tuvg3brown, i don't know how well supported they are, but promise make some not-so-expensive sata controllers
19:49.35ScribbleJSo i'll try that now, just in case... but I'd expect it to be sdasomething since it's ata.
19:49.36ph00does anyone know how to connect to a vpn using username and password over l2tp, ipsec, openswan? All the reading I did so far was abou certificates, I need to connect using username and password only, possibly a "shared secret" passphrase (the server is relakks.com, and I can't connect over pptp, long story. I must use l2tp)
19:49.49pickcoderg3brown: even with Etch beta3 I had to compile VIA drivers for this VT8251 chipset
19:49.55sepskipromise controllers can't compare to 3ware at all
19:50.10abrotmanpromise is crap
19:50.15pickcoderg3brown: you may have to go with a decent SCSI-like sata controller if you want easy support on stable
19:50.16sepskibasicaly yes
19:50.18ScribbleJph00 can you use openvpn?  That'll do it.
19:50.19tuvScribbleJ, is it a sata disk?
19:50.23ScribbleJtuv Yessir.
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19:50.46tuvScribbleJ, then it should be sdaX. most probably sda1
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19:51.16ScribbleJtuv... so I'd assume, but I've got /boot/grub/menu.lst poitning at sda1 now and I get a kernel panic.  Is there some way to find out for sure what it is assinging?
19:51.49danixmenu.lst points to (hd0,0) or something... check device map
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19:52.02tuvScribbleJ, does the new kernel boot from disk as sda1 with the cdrom connected?
19:52.05satans_banjotuv: okay i've commented out the line containing ftp in the /etc/inetd.conf and saved it using emacs but i've still got the error message. anything else i need to do?
19:52.08FinnTuxis it possible to define more than one folder where videos are stored?
19:52.15ScribbleJtuv, yessir, with cdromit boots OK.
19:52.16FinnTuxopps
19:52.19|dennis|Question: I had this problem >  http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20383&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= on my machines a fw days ago.. though that it was a hardware problem..but mroe machines seem to be doing the same thing... any help? btw i do a basic install.. then use apt-get to install a whole bunch of apps and then i do a apt-get upgrade ... things seem fine but now this..any help??
19:52.22FinnTuxwrong window :)
19:52.25tuvsatans_banjo, did you restart inetd?
19:52.31satans_banjoaah
19:52.40satans_banjothanks - how would i do that?
19:53.02satans_banjo(i'm not great as linux as you may see)
19:53.06satans_banjoat*
19:53.08tuvsatans_banjo, /etc/init.d/inetd restart
19:53.10satans_banjocheers
19:53.16ph00scribblej I tried with openvpn, no luck so far...
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19:53.42satans_banjonope, still got the error message
19:53.46ph00but I'm gonna keep trying, if it can be done, I 'll probably do it eventually... maybe in one year or two
19:54.08ScribbleJph00 - what do you mean you tried, no luck?
19:54.24ph00I couldn't get openvpn to sent username and password
19:54.31tuvsatans_banjo, do that netstat again
19:54.34ScribbleJYou have to edit the settings for that.  Did you?
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19:54.47ScribbleJph00 You cannot expect to just install and have it magically be set up for you.
19:55.00satans_banjowhat am i looking for?
19:55.16ph00I probably misconfigured it
19:55.16ph00itno
19:55.17ph00no
19:55.21ph00I follows howtos and tutorials
19:55.24kingsleyIs it possible to redirect tcp/ip subdomain traffic to a host on a private net?
19:55.26tuvsatans_banjo, port 21 or ftp
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19:55.47ScribbleJWell, what setting did you set to get it to validate on username password and not on certificate?
19:55.48satans_banjotheres no mention of either
19:55.52tapple!install
19:55.52dpkgThere are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
19:56.03ph00at openvpn.org/howto I think
19:56.03ph00and, I tried to folllow those instructions etc
19:56.05ph00but it never worked
19:56.06tapple!reinstall
19:56.06dpkghmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install
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19:56.33ScribbleJph00... well, OK, so you didn't get it set up correctly.  How can I help you?
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19:58.32ph00the problem is actually, how do I set up correctly, but I uderstan that you can't answer to a question like that. I'll try to make a some specific questions after another couple of tries
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19:58.45ScribbleJYou're a good man, Ph00.
19:58.55ph00yeah
19:59.14ScribbleJThe only tip I can give you is in the conf file you want "auth-user-pass"
19:59.24ScribbleJAnd there is another command to NOT require the certificates...
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19:59.43pickcoderg3brown: You may be able to get by with an nforce4 chipset, but I'm still looking at support in stable
19:59.50ScribbleJBut I require certificates so I can't recall off the top of my head.
19:59.56czekistahi. how can i check if module X is compiled in my kernel?
19:59.56tuvsatans_banjo, netstat -l | grep ftp
20:00.08ph00they tell me that each time they rob me
20:00.11ph00k
20:00.11ph00thx
20:00.13satans_banjotcp        0      0 *:ftp                   *:*                     LISTEN
20:00.15ph00that's exactly what I need
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20:00.17ph00usename/password: yes, cert: no
20:00.21Braindeadczekista: check /boot/config-`uname -r`
20:00.24satans_banjothats what i got
20:00.30vltHello. I try to read/copy all files from an [image file] -> [loop device] -> [mounted] NTFS partition, but I get an error already while executing `du`. kernel message is: "NTFS-fs error (device loop0): ntfs_read_locked_inode(): Failed with error code -5.  Marking corrupt inode 0x986a as bad.  Run chkdsk." How can I just ignore those non-readable files when copying or taring?
20:00.30ScribbleJWell, I got you 1/3rd of the way there, ph00
20:00.53ScribbleJph00 there's one other thing to know, on the server oyu have to set it up to auth via PAM... if you get stuck there let me know.  Iv'e done that for my username/password thing.
20:00.55ph00I know where to look now, thx scribblej
20:01.02ScribbleJThe only part you're on your own for is figuring out how to turn OFF certs.
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20:01.31tuvsatananas, <Braindead> satans_banjo: fuser -v 21/tcp
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20:01.57satans_banjo21/tcp               root       1465 f....  inetd
20:02.03satans_banjosame as last time by the looks of it
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20:02.56tuvsatans_banjo, you sure you commented all ftp-related lines in inetd.conf? if so, do /etc/init.d/inetd stop; sleep 5; /etc/init.d/inetd start
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20:03.27satans_banjoi'll have another check but i'm pretty sure there was only one
20:03.36ph001/3 of the way id good start, expecially added to the knowledge that it is actually the *right* way. "set up auth via PAM" I'll try to figure that oiut. I'll be beck if I get stuck (I'll probably do). thanks again
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20:03.40satans_banjostupid question, but commenting is # right?
20:03.47|dennis|Question: I had this problem >  http://kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20383&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= on my machines a fw days ago.. though that it was a hardware problem..but mroe machines seem to be doing the same thing... any help? btw i do a basic install.. then use apt-get to install a whole bunch of apps and then i do a apt-get upgrade ... things seem fine but now this..any help?? btw i am not using kanotix... j
20:03.48|dennis|ust using that site to state the problem i am having.. it is similar if not the same problem...
20:03.52asgsatans_banjo: for /etc/inetd.conf? yes
20:03.57satans_banjogood thanks
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20:04.27g3brownpickcoder: so you not sure of any boards with sata support for Sarge stable?
20:04.41satans_banjo# ftp   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-wrapper
20:04.42czekistai'm using kernel 2.6.16 and need module called "ip_queue". I have looked at /boot/config-2.6.16 and typed "/ip_queue" in make menuconfig but it didn't found any module. Where is it? how can i find it?
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20:04.46satans_banjothats the only line i found
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20:05.16asgsatans_banjo: does 'grep -v ^# /etc/inetd.conf' show others?
20:05.35ScribbleJAnyone know how I can tell what device names/numbers are being assigned to my devices before attempting pivot_root on boot?  I keep getting a kernel panic.
20:05.58satans_banjoasg: other what?
20:06.05satans_banjoi'll copy+paste
20:06.12satans_banjodiscard         stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal
20:06.12satans_banjodiscard         dgram   udp     wait    root    internal
20:06.13satans_banjodaytime         stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal
20:06.13satans_banjotime            stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal
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20:06.27asggah
20:06.34satans_banjodid you see it all?
20:07.16asgsatans_banjo: comment anything ftp related. If you haven't already, do a 'pkill -HUP inetd'
20:07.58satans_banjodid the "pkill -HUP inetd" and it looks like i'm in business
20:08.01satans_banjocheers
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20:08.42satans_banjothat is, when i type pure-ftpd it makes a blank line and appears to be working
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20:09.54asgsatans_banjo: ftp localhost (that should prove a good enough test I suppose) If you installed pure-ftpd from a debian package, check /etc/default and see if there is an entry for pure-ftpd that indicates how it wants to be started (standalone or inetd)
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20:10.53satans_banjoi chose inetd when i was installing it
20:11.12satans_banjoftp: connect: Connection refused
20:11.21satans_banjothat was after ftp localhost
20:11.33tuvsatans_banjo, you could have fixed that by "dpkg-reconfigure pure-ftpd"
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20:11.40satans_banjoah
20:11.44satans_banjoi'll give that a go
20:12.02satans_banjobecause now when i try to start pure-ftpd it appears to crash
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20:13.39satans_banjook it says "Stopping ftp server: pure-ftpd."
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20:14.36Rick77I'm using vsftpd and have ports 20 and 21 open but when I connect I'm not able to list the directories. anyone had this problem before ?
20:14.58asgRick77: try using PASV
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20:15.03tuvRick77, check out your permissions
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20:17.25satans_banjohmm now every time i start pure-ftpd it crashes
20:17.39satans_banjoor at least appears to crash - how long is it meant to take?
20:19.16myrenhow can i convert from mac formatting to dos?
20:20.58tappleis there any way to make dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg actually do something? it justs asks questions and never writes a file in /etc/X11/
20:21.28cydorktapple, did you edit the file by hand before that??
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20:21.55asgtapple: look at the comments at the top of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
20:22.00stranger_stoneHello :)
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20:22.18tapplecydork: I removed xorg.conf just so it would write it, and it still did not
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20:22.24lehelhello
20:22.32cydork!tell tapple about confmiss
20:22.52lehelit is possible to hide folders?
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20:23.44pickcoderg3brown: I really haven't see 100% positive remarks on any current boards with built-in SATA
20:24.22pickcoderg3brown: If you can find a VIA chipset that isn't the VT8251, then you may be OK
20:24.51asglehel: only if you remove read access from the parent directory
20:25.03tuv!tell tapple about xmd5
20:25.25pickcoderg3brown: the nforce3 chipset is near extinct now and there are issues with sata_nv. Also, beware of SiS chipsets. The Adaptect 1505 uses an SiS chipset and I had problems with soft RAID
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20:25.50junix|workanyone know where i can find the samba person for debian?
20:25.56lehelasg: ok, it's removed, now?
20:26.16peterSjunix|work: you can email samba@packages.debian.org
20:26.21junix|workok
20:26.28junix|worki need to find out when it will be fixed!
20:26.31junix|workit won't work
20:26.34peterSI haven't seen peloy on irc in a long time, if ever
20:26.35junix|worki need that....
20:26.48peterSjunix|work: oh in that case, follow the bug report on it
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20:27.05junix|workpeterS: ok...
20:27.59peterSjunix|work: I assume the bug _is_ reported?  you can find it at http://bugs.debian.org/src:samba.  If your bug isn't there, please do report it
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20:29.28junix|workok...i'm not sure how....
20:29.30junix|workbut ok
20:30.01ThomasPorterHello, I just updated from apache1.3 to apache2 everything went fine.. but now my PHP is no longer installed? What gives?
20:30.26tuv!tell junix|work about reportbug
20:31.30junix|workthx!
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20:32.26kijjazquestion: what packages do i need to have 'wxwidgets' for compiling with another package?
20:32.34tarzeauick
20:32.41tarzeaukijjaz: do you know apt-cache search ?
20:32.44tarzeau!popcon
20:32.44dpkgpopcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff
20:33.10kijjaztarzeau: hmm have tried it sometimes, so where should i start?
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20:33.50kijjaztarzeau: i only need to minimize the installation of wx library.. i see lots of wxlibraries, but i really don't know which one i should get to have wxwidgets for compiling.
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20:34.06tarzeaukijjaz: apt-cache search wx | grep dev
20:34.19kijjaztarzeau: wow.. thanks.. i'll try now.
20:34.22tarzeaukijjaz: if you do apt-cache show package, it gives you some more details
20:34.33tarzeaukijjaz: it probably depends on your software, which ones you really need
20:34.39tarzeaukijjaz: you know wxwidgets are ugly?
20:34.45tarzeaukijjaz: you want to write portable software?
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20:35.13kijjaztarzeau: it only says it need 'wxwidgets' .. i'm compiling miniAudicle.. a front-end for chuck programming language (music synthesis)
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20:35.55tarzeaukijjaz: homepage of that chuck programming language?
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20:36.08PastorEdHello, everyone. Quick question: can someone please remind me how to find a program that fits a particular need? I'm sure that I remember something about an apt-related search command, but I can't remember what it is.
20:36.20tarzeauPastorEd: apt-cache search
20:36.28PastorEdSomething like "apt-find all programs that are games"?
20:36.44kijjaztarzeau: http://www.bequiet.co.th/web/administrato
20:36.51kijjaztarzeau: oh no wrong one./
20:37.03PastorEdtarzeau: doesn't that just find a specific package name? "apt-cache search package_name"?
20:37.25kijjaztarzeau: http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/release/ <-- files here, http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu <-- main page
20:38.22PastorEdso, "apt-cache search editors" will give me a list of ALL editors in Debian?
20:38.37googlahPastorEd: make a try :-)
20:38.40kijjaztarzeau: i've just apt-cache search wx | grep dev, wow.. i guess i can see something i need here now.
20:38.56tarzeauPastorEd: you want this:
20:39.03kijjaztarzeau: wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development) - - something like this?
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20:39.26googlahtmsnc is just so cool :-)
20:39.32tarzeauPastorEd: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/science/
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20:39.52tarzeaukijjaz: you want the -dev in it
20:40.02hburcheyIs there a virtual package that installs a bare bones system?
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20:40.27kijjaztarzeau: there's dev and dbg, i guess dev's the only thing i need for compiling.
20:40.35peterShburchey: besides just the default install?  depends on how bare-bones you are talking about
20:40.36tarzeaukijjaz: yep
20:40.41kijjaztarzeau: thanks a lot ^^"
20:41.24kijjaztarzeau: i'll be chucking around real soon. can't wait to see chuck language deb package in the official reporsitory lol..
20:41.34hburcheypeterS, I've got a system up and running, but I want to nuke all the shit that's on there and start with a fresh set of packages. What is the easiest way to do that?
20:41.39tarzeaukijjaz: what license is it? homepage?
20:41.42tarzeaukijjaz: example songs?
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20:42.07kijjaztarzeau: oh sorry.. ahh that's the wrong page.. the correct is at..
20:42.10PastorEdtarzeau: so, how'd you get that list? "apt-cache search science"??
20:42.31tarzeauPastorEd: links2 -dump http://packages.debian.org/unstable/science
20:42.51peterShburchey: best bet really is to run 'aptitude' interactively, hit the down arrow a couple times to get to "Intalled packages", then hit [ to expand the list, then go through and start removing stuff you know you don't want
20:42.53kijjaztarzeau: at.. http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/
20:43.00junix|workpeterS: I don't have a smtp server i can use....
20:43.07PastorEdtarzeau: that's nice, but I'm actually looking for a list of games, not scientific programs. :D
20:43.08tarzeaukijjaz: will you send me a cookie if i make a package?
20:43.25tarzeaukijjaz: you can always make your own: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/
20:43.30tarzeauPastorEd: hahahah :)
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20:43.41tarzeauPastorEd: well check packages.debian.org/unstable/ there are the sections
20:43.58peterSjunix|work: oh - well, you can use the -o option to reportbug to just output a file which can be mailed separately.  you can post that file to a pastebin and I or someone else can post it for you, if you don't have a handy mail client you can paste something like that into
20:44.00tarzeauPastorEd: which games? tried supertransball2 yet? mazeofgalious? nethack? bub-n-bros.sf.net ? www.mtp-target.org ?
20:44.00PastorEdtarzeau: nevermind... I got it... I just replaced "science" with "games", and got what I needed. Thanks.
20:44.04tarzeauDOPEWARS
20:44.33PastorEdtarzeau: tough to say. I'm putting together a laptop for a teenager with lukemia who's stuck in the hospital.
20:44.42PastorEdJust looking for a good selection, that's all.
20:44.47kijjaztarzeau: oh lol.. hmm i guess somebody's making a deb package of the language.. and it's been heavily developed and debugged right now
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20:44.59tarzeauPastorEd: oh put the ones i named! endless hours of joy and fun
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20:45.02junix|workpeterS: hmmm....let me get the info from my dad, he has one...
20:45.03kijjaztarzeau: so there'd be a lot of changes this upcoming weeks.
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20:45.23PastorEdIt's an older laptop that doesn't have GLX or DRI... so the games can't be too intensive. (Neverball is out)
20:45.34tarzeauPastorEd: the ones i named are fine
20:45.43tarzeauPastorEd: these need faster 3d: briquolo and brutalchess
20:46.41PastorEdThanks, tarzeau. I appreciate it, and I'm sure this kid will too.
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20:46.59PastorEdTake care, all. GBYLBT...
20:46.59Onoi need help
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20:47.06Onoconfigure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under yes.
20:47.06OnoNote that the MySQL client library is not bundled anymore!
20:47.10Onowhat is it :(
20:47.16abrotmanOno: apt-cache search mysql -dev
20:47.43tarzeauabrotman: -- -dev
20:47.48abrotmanyeah .. that
20:47.55abrotmani usually leave off the -dev and just go with dev
20:48.13Onodebian:/home/onur/Desktop/HTTPD/php-5.1.6# apt-cache search mysql --dev
20:48.13OnoE: Command line option --dev is not understood
20:48.22abrotmanno ..
20:48.26abrotmanapt-cache search -- mysql -dev
20:48.43Onohmm ok
20:49.07peterSor apt-cache search mysql .-dev
20:49.18peterSthe . prevents option interpretation (:
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20:49.38tarzeauOno: selam, #debian.tr
20:49.39abrotmangolly gee .. the things i get in my email .. who wants a COBOL/ASM job in Mechanicsburg?!
20:49.53abrotmanerm .. Mechanicsburg, PA :)
20:50.08Onoselam tarzeau
20:50.29abrotmandoesn't that sound great?
20:50.54peterSyeah, it's exactly what I'm looking for
20:51.10abrotmanpeterS: i'd paste all the 1970's requirements .. but debhelper would kick me :)
20:51.15peterShehe
20:51.29abrotmanone of them is "Legacy"
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20:52.29WillyWortelHow to check if program XYZ is installed ? is this possible in cli-tool dpkg or apt ?
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20:53.14myrenBWAHAHAHAHA: awk '{print "'"'"'" $0 "'"'"'"}'
20:53.39GuerinWillyWortel: dpkg --get-selections
20:53.42nefertumis there any way to manipulate manually the apt database?
20:53.47Guerinnefertum: no.
20:54.03peterSmyren: yeah, fun with quoting and unquoting
20:54.10nefertumi cannot uninstall the 'eric' package...
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20:54.22peterSI guess that prints 'LINE' given an input of LINE ?
20:54.23nefertumand then i cannot upgrade any package in my system
20:54.25Guerinnefertum: if you ever find yourslf in the position to do that, it means you've fucked up horribly
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20:55.15WillyWortelGuerin thanks!
20:55.20onweald_timI am trying install packages without user interaction.
20:55.26onweald_timapt-get supports --yes which goes with defaults.  However, I want to specify a few of the defaults.
20:55.30ErikRoseIs there something I'm missing? I can't seem to find changelogs for a couple new packages apt wants to install on my stable box. For example, libgcc1. aptitude changelog says, essentially, no such changelog, as does packages.debian.org. Are things usually a little behind?
20:55.34onweald_timAfter googling and reading debian package manager manuals, I see that the default inputs are set in debian/templates.
20:55.35onweald_timIdeally, I would like to tell apt "install package xyz with xyz::theirvariable=myvalue"
20:55.36IrulanHello
20:55.52onweald_timCan someone point me in the right direction?
20:56.03Guerinonweald_tim: man apt-get
20:56.06abrotmanErikRose: security updates most likely .. or 3.1r3
20:56.09myrennefertum: what is the problem?
20:56.27ErikRoseAh. Security updates are changelogged elsewhere?
20:56.35onweald_timGuerin: That is where I got --yes... but the closest I see is using -c or -o to specify a configuration file.
20:56.55onweald_timGuerin: but that is apt specific configuration.  As far as I can tell, it does not pass anything to the package.
20:57.02Guerinonweald_tim: -o doesn't specify a config file, it allows you to specify a config line
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20:57.16Guerinonweald_tim: oh, you want configure and build options?
20:57.22ErikRoseAh, yes, now I see. Thanks, abrotman.
20:57.28onweald_timGeurin: yeah, I was grouping them together.  Conceptually the same.
20:57.43onweald_timGuerin: I want to tell the package "use this selection and don't ask the user"
20:58.06Guerinok, hold up
20:58.39Guerinonweald_tim: do you want BUILD config options, do your want program config-file choices, or do you want apt installation options
20:58.58IrulanCan someone tell me why my box is recieving ipv6 RA's (tells tcpdump) but do not interpret them (no autoconfiguration, radvdump shows nothing)
20:59.11abrotmanErikRose: can you get me something from the creamery now? :)
20:59.32ErikRoseabrotman: will you send me shipping $$? :-)
20:59.48abrotmanErikRose: it would probably cost me less to drive there :)
20:59.53ErikRosehehe, probably
21:00.05ErikRoseAnd I'd probably get in trouble trying to mail frozen CO2 around. ;-)
21:00.23abrotmanErikRose: they don't have my favorite flavor anymore i don't think
21:00.28ErikRoseWhat was it?
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21:01.01abrotmanErikRose: oh .. they renamed it .. it used to be dreamsicle or creamsicle .. it's now Orange Vanilla Sundae
21:01.09ErikRoseHa *ha*! Yay.
21:01.28abrotmani don't think i've been to the creamery since i went to school there .. oh well
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21:03.43bgatI'm running etch.  can anyone tell me how to create xorg.conf?  when I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I answer the questions but get a zero-length file.
21:04.49WillyWortelbgat, didn't you get the question to save at last ?
21:05.16bgatnope
21:06.34bgatnope
21:06.51abrotman!xorgmd5
21:06.51dpkgIf you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work, To see if this is the case 'md5sum -c /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum' - if this files differ, then dpkg-reconfigure will not overwrite your existing xorg.conf.  To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've made
21:07.31bgatabrotman: I'll try that now.
21:07.42bgat(I never had an xorg.conf to begin with, for some reason)
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21:10.33onweald_timGuerin: Sorry about that.  Time Warner bought comcast in my area and I've had crappy service ever since.
21:10.47onweald_timGuerin: If you sent anything to me after "ok, hold up" I didn't get it.
21:10.49onweald_tim:-(
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21:11.07Guerinonweald_tim: do you want BUILD config options, do your want program config-file choices, or do you want apt installation options?
21:11.11onweald_timGuerin: My example I was trying to send before was:  When I install "locales" I want to specify en_us so the user doesn't have to do that.
21:11.21Guerinonweald_tim: oh, i see.
21:11.58Guerinonweald_tim: you want debconf options, which I don't know about, but should be documented, probably in a combination of man apt and man debconf
21:12.20Guerinonweald_tim: i *think* what you want  it called 'preloading'
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21:12.27onweald_timGuerin: I'll check debconf.  I think I checked it before but I am bleary eyed.
21:12.34onweald_timGeurin: thanks!
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21:13.58hell-patrolhello all
21:14.11hell-patroli have problem with sound card
21:14.21hell-patrolanybody help me
21:14.40hell-patrolhow i du know sound card name
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21:15.01hell-patrolor how to detect by alsa
21:15.29ph00yes I know I should look at manuals, tutorials, man pages etc; in the meantime, if someone remembers it, what's the line to give a non-root  permission to execute any files in a directory he already owns?
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21:16.38Irulanhell-patrol: (sudo) alsaconf
21:17.27WillyWortelph00 : you mean su or sudo ?
21:17.51ph00su
21:17.56hell-patrolIronhand, yes , but alsaconf not found
21:17.57dendriteph00: Do you mean how to turn a file into an executable, or how to set things so that executables are found to run without typing their entire path?
21:17.59hell-patrolmy sound card
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21:18.22hell-patroli use 2.4.27 kernel
21:18.31dendriteph00: You don't need su or sudo to execute your own programs.
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21:18.42ph00su 0> enter => password => give a regular use permission to execute on all the files in a folder
21:19.11tamhey, does anyone know the correct syntax in rar to add directores, rar a file.rar directory/ doesn't work properly (i also have sub directories under that)
21:19.52dendriteph00: You're not making sense to me...  What exactly are you trying to do, and what error are you getting?
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21:20.22abrotman!alsa one-liner
21:20.22dpkgi heard alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels, or some applications don't know how to talk directly to alsa, so "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" and "echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules" to provide the oss compatibility layer
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21:24.36onweald_timGuerin: You rock.  Googling "debconf preloading" scored me a win.
21:24.40onweald_timGuerin: I have a lot of searching/reading to do but wanted to let you know what I found.
21:24.45onweald_timGuerin: Iit looks like I'll need to  override debconf.conf possibly using DEBCONF_DB_FALLBACK environment variable.
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21:26.08goodshitanyone know of any good and popular open source CRM software? can someone name one of them thanks
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21:27.37abrotmansugarcrm ?
21:27.42abrotmangoodshit: apt-cache search crm
21:27.50ph00I execute a .sh or a .jar and get "permission denied", so I right click on one executable file and find out that permission to execute is set to "on"  for root only. I set it "on"  for the regular user too. Then I check another couple of executable files, and I 've found that permissions to execute are set to root only on all files. Now, instead of right-clicking one file at the time, I would rather run a line, that would set permission to execut
21:27.50ph00e to the regular user for all the files in the directory and sub direcories
21:28.04abrotmanmounted noexec ?
21:28.07goodshitthx
21:28.57dendriteph00: chmod +x /path/to/files/*
21:29.07ph00I don't know how they're mounted, Is it about the /etc/fstab lisne thatmopunts that volume?
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21:29.15dendriteph00: Or, sudo chmod ... if root owns 'em.
21:29.16ph00OK
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21:29.37abrotmanph00: type 'mount' and see
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21:36.06Onoi need mysql dev packages but debian packages old :(
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21:36.55Weedy_lappy^2i got an issue
21:37.08ph00z@etch:/hda2/freenet/frost$ gksu chmod +x /hda2/freenet/frost/lib/
21:37.08ph00glibtop: This machine has 1 CPUs, 1 are being monitored.
21:37.09Weedy_lappy^2apache is using 99.9% cpu
21:37.23ph00who is monitoring what? and why?
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21:39.20freeone3000Ono: What debian version?
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21:39.45freeone3000Ono: Sid is up to date. Etch is usably up to date. Sarge is what you use when you want it to run for years on end without anything breaking.
21:39.46Brain0verflowhello, sum1 using dmraid?
21:41.05Onofreeone3000, sarge
21:41.09abrotman!wud
21:41.09dpkgnun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun.
21:41.23abrotmanWeedy_lappy^2: kill it
21:41.25abrotmanor restart it
21:41.35Weedy_lappy^2after the restart
21:41.43abrotmancan you see why?
21:41.57abrotmanare you sure all processes terminated before the restart ?
21:41.58Weedy_lappy^2not really
21:42.15Weedy_lappy^2yes
21:42.49abrotmanis your server getting hit hard? or is something just stuck in a loop? what is interesting about your setup?
21:42.59Weedy_lappy^2nothing
21:43.08Weedy_lappy^2apache seems to be lopoping
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21:43.10abrotmanno bizzare modules or anything like that ?
21:43.13Weedy_lappy^2looping*
21:43.17Weedy_lappy^2php5
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21:43.21Weedy_lappy^2thats it
21:43.28abrotmanwhat if you disable php5?
21:43.32abrotmanapache2 ?
21:43.35Weedy_lappy^2been working fine all week
21:43.39Weedy_lappy^2yes 2
21:43.46hell-patroli try to start alsamixer,but results from command alsamixer - snd_ctl_open ... i write in console command apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils and alsaconf
21:44.01abrotmana2dismod php5 .. restart it .. see if it happens again
21:44.10Weedy_lappy^2no change
21:44.19bofh80ello ello
21:44.29pickcoderWeed_lappy^2: did you look in the logs?
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21:45.31pickcoderWeedy_lappy^2 even
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21:47.23Weedy_lappy^2BAH
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21:47.41bofh80tralala, you out there
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21:49.49MASTER-PIGEONPLEASE HELP ME CURE THE FLAX SEED - to partial tray: HTTP://OGRISH.COm
21:49.59abrotmango away
21:50.10MASTER-PIGEONPLEASE HELP ME CURE THE FLAX SEED - to partial tray: HTTP://OGRISH.COm
21:50.17abrotman!ops MASTER-PIGEON tard
21:50.18dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel: abrotman complains about: MASTER-PIGEON tard
21:50.19MASTER-PIGEONPLEASE HELP ME CURE THE FLAX SEED - to partial tray: HTTP://OGRISH.COm
21:50.21xoredwhen postfix is not able to fine the user, which should recieve the mail ( cause the user is not existing or the alias is wrong ) but the m record is set, what happens with the mails ?
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21:50.33MASTER-PIGEONPLEASE HELP ME CURE THE FLAX SEED - to partial tray: HTTP://OGRISH.COm
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21:50.46LoRezklined
21:50.51abrotmanpeterS: can do you do the bmwm5@* thing ?
21:51.02peterSabrotman: he's been klined, do you think it's necessary?
21:51.14abrotmanpeterS: he's a repeat offender .. but always witht he same blah@
21:51.33abrotmanpeterS: he was _ryanz- or something for a while
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21:51.58evi|oneHello. I have two NICs. The first one is always eth0. For some reason, the second one is sometimes identified as eth1, sometimes as eth2. Is there any way I can force it to be eth1?
21:52.28peterSabrotman: going through my irc logs now to see
21:53.08abrotmanpeterS: i don't have any! :)
21:53.11abrotmanerm :(
21:53.40abrotmanpeterS: you might have to grep for must _ry
21:53.43abrotmanfor just
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21:54.15abrotmangrr .. what was it
21:54.23Weedy_lappy^2anyideas why the ssl module sends apache in to a loop?
21:54.30abrotmanbad conf option ?
21:54.48Weedy_lappy^2i havent touched /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf
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21:55.22peterSabrotman: he certainly seems to never have anything better to do than chat offtopic
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21:56.04tolecnalI run Debian etch (r3 - latest), later set to unstable.. now, i've tried to compile a custom kernel using make-kpgk.. first i tried with my own 'make menuconfig' settings, according to my hardware.. didn't work... then i copied the current .config from /boot, made 'make oldconfig' and compiled.. the kernel stills crashes
21:56.07evi|oneAny help for me?
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21:56.16abrotmanpeterS: he did one day .. he had a question .. but ever since then .. nonstop rubbish
21:56.21arisvwell, modprobe -v ide-detect error, cannot mount cdrom in the 3rd step of debian installation and it seem in every distro the same problem, cannot mount the packages, why?
21:56.27tolecnalit sets up my hd as a scsi device (/dev/sda)
21:56.29arisvhave already change 2 cd-roms, just to see
21:56.37*** mode/#debian [+o peterS] by ChanServ
21:56.41tolecnalbut as with the default kernel, it mounts it as /dev/hdaX
21:56.47*** mode/#debian [+b *!*bmwm5@*] by peterS
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21:56.52abrotmanpeterS: ah well .. i guess i'll keep an eye out for him and let you know if it happens again
21:56.55abrotmanor not
21:56.57abrotman!beer peterS
21:57.12tolecnalit is a SATA disk.. installation of etch had to be made with 'libata.atapi_enable=1'
21:57.17peterSabrotman: yeah, I'm convinced.  he's a wanker, most of the time relatively harmless but apparently he adds zero value to the channel, ever
21:57.18abrotmanpeterS: thank you
21:57.29abrotmanpeterS: oh .. i have other nominees :)
21:57.31tolecnalwhat's going wrong, and what can i do to rectify the issues at hand
21:57.57abrotmantolecnal: what is the default kernel ?
21:58.16peterSabrotman: heh.  I think you have to be a worthless wanker _and_ pull kind of stupid spam stunt, to get a ban
21:58.35tolecnalabrotman: 2.6.16-2-686 is what was installed as default.. used the same .config when compiling a new, the kernel panics
21:58.47abrotmanpeterS: oh ok
21:58.58abrotmantolecnal: so .. as the default .. it's hda and yours is sda ?
21:59.01abrotmanor the other way around?
21:59.06abrotmanand why are you compiling a kernel anyways?
21:59.10xoredhow can i restore emails through /var/mail/mail ?
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21:59.30tolecnalabrotman: default, with install param 'libata.atapi_enable=1' is /dev/hdaX
21:59.32arisvanyone?
21:59.44tolecnalabrotman: with new kernel, it follows the SCSI scheme
21:59.50abrotmantolecnal: uhm .. i've never seen sata as anything except sdX on 2.6
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22:00.18peterSabrotman: well, sata-connected CDROMs will be /dev/scdX
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22:00.41goodshitanyone know any good CRM software? that is free or commerical what is the best one out there now. that is good.. name me a couple of them so i can look them up..
22:00.44peterSunlike the ide world, the scsi world names devices sequentially according to their type, rather than just by their physical address
22:00.56tolecnalabrotman: during install, using the latest 'testing' image from cdimage* it refused to see my dvd unit.. so i had to use the option 'libata.atapi_enable=1' to get the installer to see my drive
22:01.04abrotmanpeterS: you know what i mean damn it!
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22:01.17abrotmangoodshit: i already told you how
22:01.21abrotmangoodshit: use freshmeat
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22:01.55goodshiti did nothing looks goods
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22:02.01abrotmanlook again
22:02.17NemesisUKhi, anyone got a repo for the mozilla mplayer plugins
22:02.18goodshitwhich one id popular.
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22:03.00tolecnalabrotman: the reason i'm messing about with a custom kernel, is because both the hdd and dvd unit isn't using DMA. even trying to manually enabling it using hdparm doesn't work. and I think this has to do with the fact that both the drive and dvd unit are SATA units, being treated as PATA units because of 'libata.atapi_enable=1' kernel boot flag
22:03.03pickcodergoodshit: openCRM maybe?
22:03.03GuerinNemesisUK: /msg dpkg marillat
22:03.05abrotman!tell goodshit about polls
22:03.18tolecnaleven using ideX=dma kernel boot flags doesn't work
22:03.21abrotmantolecnal: checked the BIOS ?
22:03.30tolecnalabrotman: DMA is enabled in BIOS
22:03.35peterStolecnal: what's your motherboard chipset?  i.e., what sort of IDE / SATA chips are there?  'lspci | grep IDE' will tell
22:03.37r_marvinhello, i'm having a grub issue, i'm not sure if it's debian-specific, but here goes: i installed debian with debootstrap inside a chroot and manually installed grub (copied files from /lib/grub, ran grub console and root(hd0,1), setup(hd0)). However, on boot, grub hangs at loading 2nd stage ("grub loading, please wait"). Any ideas?
22:03.40WillyWortelGoodshit: Have a look at http://www.opensourcecms.com
22:03.44xoredis there any way to parse the /var/mail/mail to create Maildirs for every email adresss found in there ?
22:03.47abrotmannot cms .. CRM
22:03.54abrotmanbig difference
22:03.54tolecnalpeterS: ICH6 (Dell Inspirion 9300 Laptop)
22:04.15goodshitthx willy
22:04.27Rick77how should I make my iptables configuration to load at boot time ?
22:04.29peterStolecnal: oh, ok, so there's the confusion about whether to use the IDE driver or the libata driver, both of which will probably recognise the chip just fine and both of which will want to drive the IDE _and_ SATA devices.  hmm.
22:04.42abrotmanRick77: read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* ..
22:05.00abrotmanit gives a few alternatives
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22:05.05goodshiti need open CRM not CMS
22:05.14abrotmani said that!
22:05.15goodshitCRM and CMS is totally differnet stuff
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22:05.18abrotmanuse freshmeat!
22:05.23abrotmanor ask slashdot
22:05.26goodshiti did freshmeat nothign man
22:05.30tolecnalpeterS: the stock testing kernel sees it as IDE, when upgrading the kernel (using both default .config and custom .config), the system sees it as SATA, thus not being able to mount the root partition
22:05.31pickcodergoodshit: openCRM maybe?
22:05.33goodshitdamn no no eknow of a good one
22:05.38goodshityeah let me try openCRM thx
22:05.53abrotmancompiere
22:06.05peterStolecnal: which 'stock testing kernel' - do you mean the 2.6.16 released with etch installer beta 3?
22:06.06goodshiti did
22:06.17tolecnalpeterS: that would be the one, yeah
22:06.18goodshitis cooper 2006 a crm software?
22:06.24goodshitor it just a project manangemnt software
22:06.50abrotmangoodshit: is this for a Debian system ?
22:06.58goodshityes it is
22:07.01infernixxxi've upgraded from a devfs woody system to sarge. all is well but the device nodes created by udev still seem to use the devfs naming, e.g. /dev/hdd1 -> ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part1. would anyone know by chance if i should "fix" this, and how?
22:07.03r_marvinnobody here ever ran into my "grub loading, please wait" issue before?
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22:07.32infernixxxdevfs packages have been purged a long time ago as well.
22:08.20infernixxxi even created a new raid5 subsystem and pointed to /dev/sdXY but in mdadm it still shows that on disk, the device nodes follow udev style. e.g. when reading the physical disk info of a raid set with mdadm.
22:08.43peterStolecnal: I wonder why 2.6.16 wanted to use the 'piix' (old IDE) driver rather than 'ata_piix', by default.  that's probably a bug right there
22:08.50pickcoderinfernixxx: why 5 instead of 10?
22:08.58infernixxxpickcoder: money ;)
22:09.07pickcoderyou can do raid 10 with 4 drives
22:09.12pickcoder1 more than 3 for raid 5
22:09.15Eclipsermmh
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22:09.19infernixxxit's a fileserver. we really need the storage. 900gb.
22:09.24pickcoderok
22:09.32Eclipserwasn't there a list of incoming packages to sid?
22:09.33pickcoderjust asking b/c the write performance is gonna suck
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22:09.46infernixxxnot really, it's fine for here.
22:09.54tolecnalpeterS: yeah, that's another thing.. when booting with the stock kernel, ata_piix spits out an aweful lot of 'unresolved symbols' error messages
22:10.03tolecnalthe units still works fine, but DMA is long gone
22:10.38peterStolecnal: odd, ata_piix unresolved symbols - that sounds like a build bug
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22:10.38tolecnaleffectively setting my DVD unit as useless playing back DVD's
22:10.38abrotmanpickcoder: raid10 isn't all that much better
22:10.38Eclipserand where can I see when was a package last updated?
22:10.39pickcoderabrotman: bonnie says otherwise
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22:10.59tolecnallibata: Unknown parameter `atapi_enable'
22:10.59tolecnalata_piix: Unknown symbol ata_scsi_ioctl
22:11.00tolecnalata_piix: Unknown symbol ata_std_bios_param
22:11.02tolecnaletc etc
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22:11.16tolecnalsorry about that
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22:12.13tolecnalthe same error messages goes for 'ahci'
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22:12.30xoredis there any way to parse the /var/mail/mail to create Maildirs for every email adresss found in there ?
22:12.32peterStolecnal: I wonder if it's a simple matter of 'depmod -a' never having been run
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22:13.32jplibrexored: You mean you want /home/<user>/Maildir/ created?
22:13.42freeganbhHelp, linux freezes at boot, right after probing IDE interface 1 hda: hda1
22:13.45jadehow do  i add a user to a group?
22:14.06jplibrejade: chgrp --help
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22:14.19jplibrejade: oh, nevermind, misread your q
22:14.22peterSjade: adduser username groupname
22:14.30xoredjplibre: my problem is, that i got mx records set for a email adress, but the home Maildir was not created, so the mails where not "transefered" to the user, but they are still in /var/mail/mail and now i want to "restore" them
22:14.37tolecnalpeterS: any suggestions? pointers? cause honestly, i'm at a loss right now
22:14.41jplibrejade: what peterS said
22:15.13jadewhat if the userid already exists?
22:15.43jplibrejade: I always edit the /etc/group file manually ...
22:15.49me_hereman usermod!
22:15.56jplibrejade: or via a script, but yeah, man usermod
22:16.12jplibrethere are a half-dozen scripts that can do ti
22:16.23peterStolecnal: if you can get the system booted in some other way, run 'depmod 2.6.whatever' (where 2.6.whatever is the kernel version you want to boot, the exact string shows up as a directory in /lib/modules and filenames in /boot)
22:16.35peterSjade: adduser username groupname
22:16.42peterSjade: I said that already, I believe
22:16.54NemesisUKanyone know where the vlc firefox plugin installs to
22:17.04jplibrexored: oh, so you want the Maildir populated, not just created?
22:17.45jadepeterS, jplibre : thanks
22:18.13jplibrexored: are the mails currently in /var/mail/mail/user mailspools?
22:18.16jplibrembox format?
22:18.33jplibrejade: np - I assume you have figured out you can do 'groups <user>' to see that you have it working
22:18.40xoredjplibre: i dont really need all the mails under /var/mail/mail ( the format mailbox i suggest ), but i want to get all the mails gone to me@mydomain.de out of that file. I dont think its handy to write a own script so i ask, if there is something like a mailbox to mailsdir script ?
22:18.52xoredjplibre: yes they are
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22:19.04jplibrexored: I'm a little confused - do you have multiple user mboxes or just one
22:19.18jplibreon my mbox-based systems we have /var/spool/mail/<user>
22:19.23jplibrefor incoming mboxes
22:19.29klorkNemesisUK, dpkg-query -L mozilla-plugin-vlc
22:19.37xoredjplibre: /var/mail/mail is a file which contains ALL emails recieved or just the emails, whcih had no user to transfer to. The format is mbox
22:19.46NemesisUKcheers
22:19.47jplibreon my Maildir systems we have /home/<user>/Maildir/mails
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22:20.01xoredjplibre: yeah thats rigth, but this user seems to catch the "i have no clue where to put this mails to" mails
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22:20.05jplibrewhere mails is all the mail dirs and so forth with the individual mails
22:20.06libertad0hi
22:20.10jplibrexored: weird
22:20.24klorkhullo
22:20.35libertad0Hellow, How Can transfer complete site from a remote host by shell ftp
22:20.36xoredjplibre: do you know ho coudl i convert this ?
22:20.37jplibreand I don't know of a super-easy way to fix that, but you want to use 'formail' I bet
22:20.39libertad0thanxs
22:21.05jplibrexored: formail will split out each individual mail, then you have to get it into the Maildir format ... come to think of it I am sure there is a script to do this
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22:21.37xoredjplibre: is the mailbox format not just the "maildir format" but file seperated ?
22:22.05jplibrexored: if you're talking mbox format, yeah ... big files with individual mails concatenated
22:22.07libertad0M3G4crux: hi
22:22.20M3G4cruxdoes anyone know how to force the bluetooth software in linux to ask again for the pin when connect a bt-headset?
22:22.32jplibreif you cat'ed a bunch of Maildir mail files you would basically have an mbox file
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22:22.50tolecnalpeterS: thanks for the input, much appreciated.. even though I'm still just as cocnfused :)
22:22.58xoredjplibre: coudl you give me an example ? i cant see the way in the man page right now
22:23.09jplibrexored: which man page?  formail?
22:23.45xoredjplibre: one second, just to get it all clear. I want to get it from mbox ( one file system ) to maildir ( oone file for mail system )
22:23.52jplibreright
22:23.53xoredjplibre: exactly
22:24.03jplibredo you have 'mbox2maildir' on your system?
22:24.11xoredis there such a thing ?
22:24.13xoredone second
22:24.32jplibreit's basically what you want ... calls formail
22:25.10xoredjplibre: i cant find it in the stable portage
22:25.23xorediam on sarge righ now
22:25.40jplibrejust a sec, it's basically just one line, I just want to make sure it will work for you
22:26.05xoredjplibre: thank you a LOT
22:26.26xoredjplibre: its really important that i restore them to tomorrow morning.
22:26.33xoredjplibre: glad to have help
22:26.45tolecnalpeterS: ah well, gonna try and compile a new kernel from a debian kernel source (rather than a kernel.org source), and see if the debian patches makes a difference in my case
22:27.09jplibrexored: no worries :)  I have had my share of Fun With Mail in the past.
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22:27.38xoredjplibre: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/
22:27.47xoredjplibre: iam reading this in the meantime
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22:28.15jplibreI'm checking that out
22:28.21xmauriciosomebody knows how to install mailman with gid=vchkpw with apt-get ?
22:28.25jplibrethat is almost _exactly_ what I was going to paste to you
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22:28.58jplibrewell, I mean - a subset of its functionality is what I was going to paste.  it also does a bunch more.
22:29.15muhammadoenkolhi people, sorry but I am just coming for a chat with dpkg
22:29.41NemesisUKI cant find the mplayer plugin for mozilla, where is it plse
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22:30.13xoredjplibre: http://www.asdf.dk/text/mbox2maildir.html
22:30.24xoredjplibre: maybe this is what you mean ?
22:30.24NemesisUKI've checked marillat and still cant find it
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22:31.08djwNemesisUK: you can't find the package mozilla-mplayer?
22:31.13NemesisUKno
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22:32.10djwNemesisUK: do you have http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ in your sources.list?
22:32.12jplibrexored: Yep, I have seen that one - there is also a one-liner that goes something like: 'formail -I"From " -s safecat $MailDir/tmp $MailDir/new < $mboxfile'
22:32.19NemesisUKdjw, yes I do
22:32.19xoredjplibre: i got mb2md installed already, as far as i can see
22:32.32djwNemesisUK: done apt-get update?
22:32.46xoredjplibre: what you jsut wrote sees to be MUCH handy, cause ias far as i understand
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22:32.55NemesisUKdjw, yea :)
22:32.59jplibrexored: if you create your cur,new,tmp directories for each mbox
22:33.09xoredthe mb2md script jsut takes all mails in that maildir fiel and converts the to maildir ( one maildir )
22:33.19jplibrexored: if I were to write a script I would take $mboxfile and $MailDir as arguments
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22:33.37jplibreand then I would run that in a loop '
22:33.48xoredi just need to do this for ONE account
22:33.51SpComb!tell me about sid
22:34.01xorednothing more jplibre just one account, on single mail
22:34.09jplibre'for dir in <list of maildirs> ; do formailscript; done'
22:34.11xoredjplibre: not "mail", mail adress i mean
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22:34.57jplibrexored: then you just need one run?
22:35.00muhammadoenkoldpkg, you were the best once again...
22:35.00xoredjplibre: one second, maybe i missed something. How can / should i convert it now
22:35.11djwNemesisUK: ah! it's in the main archive under contrib
22:35.15muhammadoenkol!congratulate yourself
22:35.15dpkgHugs & Puppies yourself, you did it!
22:35.18shalamar7hi all
22:35.36muhammadoenkolhi shalamar7
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22:35.37xoredjplibre: exactly. all i want out of this file, are emails from mail1@domain.de , not all the mails fo all users which could not be recieved
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22:35.43muhammadoenkolwhassap?
22:36.03djwNemesisUK: so you need something like "deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib" in your sources.list
22:36.20shalamar7i am looking for an app called simply ip... what package is it i? anyone know?
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22:36.30muhammadoenkolthat is why you are here shalamar7
22:36.32jplibrexored: if it's just one file ... 'mkdir -p Maildir/{cur,new,tmp}; formail -I"From mail1@domain.de" -s safecat Maildir/tmp Maildir/new < /var/mail/mail'
22:36.35shalamar7yes
22:36.47jplibrexored: but you need to get that -I argument to match properly
22:36.49muhammadoenkoltry #apropos simply ip
22:37.01muhammadoenkolor apt-cache search simply ip
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22:37.13xoredjplibre: wow, one second
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22:37.22shalamar7no it's called "ip"
22:37.26Doshow can i get my fglrx-driver to work? i just installed and did sed -i "s,vesa,fglrx,g" /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but it now 800x600 or less how do i set ATI on the primary?
22:37.26*** part/#debian lazaraus (n=peter@p508CB171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
22:37.35shalamar7hard to search for eh?
22:37.46jplibrexored: I have to step out for a bit, but you are on the right path with formail and safecat, and the URLs you mentioned
22:37.48xoredjplibre: if i dont want him to sepperate it into "new" nur ones, more put them all into new, how would that line look like
22:37.51shalamar7not found as a seperate package
22:38.08shalamar7tried that already
22:38.22muhammadoenkoloh, I understand. what does it do?
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22:39.31NemesisUKdjw, thank you found them :)
22:39.44muhammadoenkolshalamar7
22:39.47muhammadoenkol?
22:39.59shalamar7not sure... I had another debian install with a script called public_ip which I made with some chat room help
22:40.03shalamar7here it is
22:40.05Doshelp? =(
22:40.05shalamar7ip addr show eth0 | awk '/inet / { split ($2, A, "/"); print A[1]; }'
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22:40.47shalamar7this script shows my public_ip addr
22:41.00shalamar7or it did
22:41.28shalamar7now after a reinstall with another distro, the ip cmd is gone
22:43.04shalamar7that's why I was wondering if anyone knows which package it may be in
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22:44.43libertad0please
22:44.51pickcodershalamar7: iproute
22:44.53libertad0I need to make a local copy
22:44.57libertad0from mi remote host
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22:45.13libertad0with FTP shell
22:45.21shalamar7ah, lemme see..
22:45.22libertad0I think on wget how a solution
22:45.41libertad0But I don't know how use wget, or lftp or ftp
22:45.46libertad0Please, Someone?
22:46.05pickcoderlibertad0: wget <URL>
22:46.28libertad0pickcoder: But, I need ftp access
22:47.00libertad0pickcoder: wget ftp://www.myftp.com/www/ /home/root
22:47.01shalamar7iproute was it... thanks so much...
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22:47.43pickcoderlibertad0: wget will work for FTP and HTTP URL
22:48.15libertad0pickcoder: ok, but, Wich is the syntaxis?
22:48.36pickcoderlibertad0: wget ftp://www.myftp.com/www/filename -O /home/root/filename
22:48.43pickcoderlibertad0: man wget
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22:49.05libertad0pickcoder: but I need Complete directory and not a file
22:49.18libertad0wget -r ?
22:50.03muhammadoenkolshalamar7 this is not really useful with the command you are using because it just gets you what you already see with ifconfig...
22:50.16libertad0But I need copy the total directory content
22:50.32libertad0not a file only
22:50.40Doso my
22:50.47Dosits installig a new kernel
22:50.52Dosim doomed =(
22:51.04libertad0pickcoder: Can you help me?
22:51.34pickcoderlibertad0: yes.. -r is for recursive. please read the manpage for wget
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22:53.22XSoulhello team
22:53.39muhammadoenkolhi XSoul, am I part of the team??
22:53.53XSouli want to setup cpu frequensly for my mobile pc
22:53.55libertad0pickcoder: ok thanx
22:54.06XSoulwhich software you will recommended for dinamic change ?
22:54.11DosMY LINUX BROKE >:(
22:54.16muhammadoenkolsorry, i am outa here
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22:54.20GuerinDos: FIX IT
22:54.23XSoul<muhammadoenkol> ? excuse me ?
22:54.38Dosi can omg
22:54.42Doscant**
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22:54.56stonedahh boy
22:55.02pickcoderXSoul: try Google
22:55.10stonedjust came home from work and I'm extremely tired, and stuff
22:55.11XSoul<pickcoder> try with what ?
22:55.13Dosit just did somekinda kernal update , and everything seems to be dissapeared
22:55.20XSoul<pickcoder> what is your eperiance ?
22:55.26XSoulexperiance*
22:55.45XSoulpowersaved or powernowd
22:55.57Doswhat can i do? =((
22:56.21pickcoderXSoul: what CPU does your notebook use?
22:56.34GuerinXSoul: experience
22:56.36XSoul<pickcoder> intel core duo
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22:56.43XSoul<Guerin> thank you
22:56.56pickcoderXSoul: have you searching on Google to see if there are heat related issues with overclocking your specific notebook?
22:57.09pickcoderXSoul: b/c this is #debian not #overclockerz
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22:57.24XSoul<pickcoder> i'm not sure . this is first time to setup power save features
22:57.39Guerini think he wants to underclock it
22:57.48XSoul<pickcoder> overclocker ? .. just power managment for mobile pc .. what about overclock ?
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22:57.49GuerinXSoul: don't use <name>
22:58.01GuerinXSoul: it makes it look like you're quoting someone
22:58.03pickcoderGuerin: oh
22:58.14XSoul<Guerin> don't be whimsical
22:58.16pickcoderGuerin: that's makes more sense.. I was sitting here wondering about that..
22:58.22pickcoder:P
22:58.38Dosreally i spend 3 hours just for nothing again , it just crashed >:(
22:59.19Dosfking keyboard aint even working anymore
23:01.47pickcoderXSoul:powernowd is for cpu speed and voltage
23:02.09XSoul<pickcoder> yes I want to increasy cpu speed dinamically
23:03.35GuerinXSoul: don't fucking address people with <name>
23:03.47GuerinXSoul: address them with name: like a normal person
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23:04.03XSoul<Guerin> .. man .. make your business ..
23:04.28Guerin!moron XSoul
23:04.28dpkgXSoul: You are moron #72
23:04.38Thanatermesisany person with a i810 graphic card around ?
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23:04.52Guerin!anyone use a i810 graphic card?
23:04.53dpkgNo, no one uses a i810 graphic card, not even the people who use it.
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23:05.01Thanatermesis:(
23:05.23ThanatermesisGuerin, is this a real command of the bot ?
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23:06.56GuerinThanatermesis: it's a subtle hint for you to ask a less-stupid question
23:07.18Thanatermesislol
23:07.34Thanatermesisof course... i have think to he search persons to has say this and looks if is on the channel ;)
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23:07.53Thanatermesisbtw, sounds a good feautre for the bot :P
23:08.21Guerinwow, i can't understand Thanatermesish
23:08.35Thanatermesiswell, my question about it is: it supports only 16 colors for the 3d ? or its only for some cards to works with i810 ?
23:08.39abrotmanThanatermesis: that means don't take a damn poll .. state your problem ..
23:08.57abrotmani have i810 .. card works fine .. stop fucking with elive
23:09.11Thanatermesisabrotman, who has speak about Elive ?
23:09.23abrotmandon't bullshit us
23:09.39Thanatermesisabrotman, your 3d works with more than 16 depth colors ?
23:09.54abrotmanprobably because i'm not running elive
23:10.05Thanatermesisabrotman, and who has say to im running Elive ?
23:10.16abrotmandon't treat us like idiots
23:10.20pickcoderXSoul: powersaved is more generic and works through APM or ACPI
23:10.21Thanatermesisim setting up a server on my old computer created by a simple debootstrap :P
23:10.30abrotmanuhhuh
23:10.35abrotmanyour servers run X ?
23:11.05Thanatermesisim testing it, looking the hardware and all... is that bad ?
23:11.15XSoul<pickcoder> then powernowd is more advanced for use ?
23:11.24abrotmanThanatermesis: that's bullshit
23:11.33Thanatermesisabrotman, i only want to you know a thing...
23:11.37ThanatermesisElive is NOT ubuntu
23:11.38abrotmani haven't seen you ask a non-elive question in months
23:11.45abrotmanThanatermesis: IT'S NOT DEBIAN EITHER
23:11.55Thanatermesisok, if you know this is just ok :)
23:12.06pickcoderXSoul: powernowd is mostly for AMD chips, but it supposed to work through sysfs on any CPU with multiple timings. If you have KDE installed, look at kpowersave.
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23:12.08abrotmanThanatermesis: your questions are still offtopic and not related to debian
23:12.09Guerinfuck's sakes
23:12.14Guerin!moron Thanatermesis
23:12.15dpkgThanatermesis: You are moron #48
23:12.21XSoul<pickcoder> thank you ..
23:12.29pickcoderXSoul: you can set your CPU frequency policy from KDE
23:12.36pickcoderXSoul: as well as power settings
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23:12.44Thanatermesisabrotman, i repeat, im setting up a DEBIAN system builded from debootstrap on my old computer
23:12.45ThanatermesisDEBIAN
23:12.51SiyahPorti need help :(
23:12.53XSoul<pickcoder> i don't use window manager ..
23:13.02abrotmanservers don't run X .. and don't need 3d
23:13.02pickcoderXSoul: powersaved is command-line
23:13.05SiyahPorti installed kernel image package
23:13.10pickcoderXSoul: kpowersaved is a KDE tool
23:13.11XSoul<pickcoder> maybe desktop manager is more correct ..
23:13.18SiyahPortafter reboot debian not starting :(
23:13.28abrotmanis there an error ?
23:13.36Thanatermesisabrotman, i know to servers don't run X, but im TESTING THE HARDWARE
23:13.42Thanatermesislooking how all works
23:13.47libertad0pickcoder:
23:13.47XSoul<pickcoder> but this tools must be run when xserver is run too .. rigth ?
23:13.48libertad0callesev@calle72.com [~]# wget -mirror ftp://mylogin:mypass@www.calle72.com/home/wilfredo -O /home/callesev
23:13.48libertad0/home/callesev: Is a directory
23:13.53GuerinThanatermesis: NOFP.
23:14.11litageif you have gcc3.x installed, can you use a program/library/etc that was compiled with gcc4.x?
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23:14.49pickcoderlibertad0: -O is to save one file to a local file
23:14.52pickcoderlibertad0: don't use it
23:14.58pickcoderlibertad0: for mirrors, that is
23:15.00libertad0pickcoder: yes
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23:15.55Guerinlitage: yes.
23:16.08Thanatermesisabrotman, my question on this channel is simple, i810 works with 3d on more than 16 depth of colors ? if you want to say me if works for you its ok
23:16.10Ruedehi all
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23:16.25abrotmanThanatermesis: i'm not helping you fix elive and i'm not helping you run 3d X on a server
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23:16.37pickcoderXSoul: no.. powersaved is a command-line tool and daemon
23:16.42Thanatermesisthanks a lot abrotman, you are a great person
23:16.51abrotmanThanatermesis: you're Offtopic
23:16.54XSoul<pickcoder> yes this exaclty I need . thank you ..
23:17.03libertad0Thanatermesis: hi friend
23:17.11abrotmanThanatermesis: i have i810 .. i have 3d .. i have more than 16bit
23:17.20abrotmanThanatermesis: end of discussion :)
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23:17.32Thanatermesisabrotman, thanks, this is all of i have needed to know
23:17.35Thanatermesishi libertad0
23:17.46libertad0abrotman: @_o
23:17.55abrotmanlibertad0: i didn't talk to you
23:18.03abrotmandon't make stupid faces at me
23:18.28libertad0abrotman: Are you crazy man?
23:18.40libertad0abrotman: What's up man?
23:18.43abrotmanare you?
23:18.48pickcoderI am
23:18.53Guerinstupid people make abrotman crazy
23:18.55pickcoderhuh?
23:19.00abrotmanhehe
23:19.03Guerin#d seems flooded with them at the now
23:19.06libertad0lol
23:19.15peterSyeah he goes catatonic when the level of dumb questions goes past a certain level
23:19.17abrotmanhmmm .. proof
23:21.24abrotmanpeterS: i'm sure that would be preferred
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23:21.59abrotmanpickcoder: i've done my share .. thanks
23:22.02Rick77is /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ the right place to put an iptables script ?
23:22.11pickcoder:P
23:22.17abrotmanpickcoder: you missed the email i got today .. skills required where COBOL,JCL, ASM :)
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23:22.29pickcoderJCL? that's new to me
23:22.44peterSpickcoder: job control language, basically the ugliest scripting language in the entire world
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23:22.50peterSpickcoder: it's for IBM mainframes
23:22.50HomeRoeyhi!
23:22.56HomeRoeyis 2x going into Debian Proper any time?
23:22.56pickcoderah... job control
23:23.02pickcoderheh
23:23.04abrotmani've done RPG too :)
23:23.07HomeRoeyhttp://xkcd.com/c149.html
23:23.08HomeRoeyhee hee
23:23.15jonas21can anyone suggest a window manager that'd make a decent replacement for xfwm4 (behaves similarly)
23:23.19GuerinHomeRoey: wtf is 2x?
23:23.21peterSHomeRoey: is 2x of what?
23:23.27oviscan any one point me to documentation about make a custom build rescue cd ???
23:23.30abrotman1/5 of 10x
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23:23.31pickcoderabrotman: you'd fit in the MV scene quite well
23:23.36Guerinovis: morphix.org
23:23.46peterSpickcoder: MV as in MVS, or do you mean something else?
23:23.47abrotmanpickcoder: i preferred RPG over COBOL
23:23.51ovisGuerin : cool ill try
23:23.52Guerinabrotman: ooh, you can be part of a scene!
23:24.05peterSabrotman has already scene it all
23:24.09abrotmanGuerin: oh goodie .. it'll be just like highschool
23:24.10HomeRoeyGuerin, peterS:  google for 2x and you'll see what I'm talking about.  It's terminal services using NX, just from a vendor /other/ than NoMachine.  They've recently released their junks as "open source", whatever that means.
23:24.18HomeRoeyabrotman:  heya!!
23:24.19pickcoderabrotman: most independant pick consulants and developers make $150-$250/hour
23:24.19GuerinHomeRoey: cba
23:24.25HomeRoeyBROTMAN DETECTED IN SECTOR #DEBIAN
23:24.32GuerinHomeRoey: in other words, if you want it in, package it yourself
23:24.39abrotmanpickcoder: my programming skills already go out at 150
23:24.43HomeRoeyGuerin:  well I was just wondering if anyone was covering it already.
23:24.51pickcoderabrotman: multi-value = MV
23:24.51peterSHomeRoey: check http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp to see if anyone is already planning to package it
23:25.01HomeRoeyah, thanks.
23:25.04abrotmanpickcoder: and i work with a more obscure pile of crap than pick :)
23:25.11pickcoderabrotman: lol
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23:27.42HomeRoeypeterS:  it doesn't seem to talk about it.
23:28.14peterSHomeRoey: then apparently nobody has decided to package it yet.  you can do it yourself if you wish
23:28.33abrotmanor pay peterS
23:28.44peterSyeah, that works too.  I don't take credit cards though
23:28.49peterSunless you, like, give me the whole card
23:29.01pickcoderpeterS: do you take PayPal?
23:29.03pickcoder<g>
23:29.15peterSpickcoder: I guess I would.  I have a PP account, I have no idea if it has any money in it
23:29.24abrotmanhehe
23:29.35abrotmantook me a while to figure out how to get money out of it
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23:30.39HomeRoeypeterS:  :)
23:30.44HomeRoeyI'm sure they'll get someone to work on it.
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23:31.48abrotmanHomeRoey: or you can file an RFP
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23:33.06HomeRoeyrequest-for-packaging
23:33.07HomeRoey?
23:33.07HomeRoeyok
23:33.10HomeRoeyabrotman:  thanks man
23:33.18abrotman!rfp
23:33.18dpkgrumour has it, rfp is a Request For Package; see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, or a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: "
23:34.18HomeRoeyhow do I query to see if it's been requested?
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23:34.49pickcoderHomeRoey: it's on that page <G>
23:34.50peterSHomeRoey: you page through the list of RFPs (or use your browser's in-page search function).  sorry, there isn't a more convenient way, that I know of
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23:39.29pickcoderExit
23:39.32pickcodergah
23:40.52nn-firedragonIf you want To Download Debeian DVD_r3 i think now ould be a good time there seems to be a good a mount of host
23:40.56junix-otheris there a way to setup reportbug to wrok with gmail SSL smtp??
23:41.03nn-firedragonwith a lot of speed!
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23:41.52nn-firedragon!!
23:41.52dpkgI am not your damn csh prompt!
23:42.12abrotman!!!
23:42.12dpkgI am not your damn csh prompt!
23:42.16abrotmanoh well
23:42.35nn-firedragonlol bot
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23:42.43smax!!
23:42.43dpkgI am not your damn csh prompt!
23:42.47abrotman!!!!!
23:42.47dpkg"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric
23:42.50abrotmanthere we go
23:42.51smaxi didnt know he ws a bot
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23:43.10nn-firedragonlol
23:43.14smaxlike bishop from Alien
23:43.24nn-firedragonit was a pure accident
23:43.32Guerinexvept dpkg doesn't bleed milk
23:43.42smaxxD
23:43.44smaxlmao
23:43.47smaxmilk
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23:48.56b00mThe following packages will be upgraded:
23:48.56b00m<PROTECTED>
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23:49.09b00mdo i have to reboot after upgrading this?
23:49.53tuvb00m, reboot only after installing a new kernel
23:50.16abrotmanor libc if you feel really guilty :)
23:50.32abrotmanb00m: but no .. you shouldn't have to
23:51.39junix-otheris there a way to setup reportbug to wrok with gmail SSL smtp??
23:51.56b00mi see
23:52.12Shadowcatthere was a time when a new libc6 meant an upgrade
23:52.18Shadowcaterr reboot I mean
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23:57.25nn-firedragonif any one is down loading 31r1-i386 Dvd binarry using bturrent my ip address is  70.110.220.38
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23:58.19nn-firedragonps ny websight is on port 256
23:58.25nn-firedragonmy**
23:58.35abrotmannn-firedragon: you can stop now :)
23:58.44nn-firedragonkk

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