| 00:00.23 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kpkg |
| 00:00.23 | dpkg | methinks kpkg is a KDE package manager designed for handling RPM files, but can also somewhat handle debs. If you're looking for kernel-package ask me about that instead |
| 00:00.31 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: stop it |
| 00:00.40 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !kernel-package |
| 00:00.40 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 00:01.09 | thingfish | amphi: it's pointless to tell him/it to stop when the ops are derelict. |
| 00:01.32 | MetaPhaze_laptop | why is this channel so busy i am making people miss things? |
| 00:01.36 | MetaPhaze_laptop | no |
| 00:01.39 | MetaPhaze_laptop | so shut up |
| 00:01.50 | thingfish | because I really doubt he/she/it is disposed towards being civil and such. |
| 00:01.54 | amphi | thingfish: oh, well - luckily there's the oubliette, in which such imbeciles may languish ;) |
| 00:02.00 | thingfish | heh |
| 00:02.14 | MetaPhaze_laptop | debian fools |
| 00:02.22 | MetaPhaze_laptop | learn linux |
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| 00:02.38 | thingfish | hey at least we're not in some other distro's channel being a fool. |
| 00:02.45 | amphi | thingfish: sorry, 'microcephalic imbeciles' ;) |
| 00:02.50 | ChakRa | ~__~ |
| 00:03.02 | MetaPhaze_laptop | i'm using the damn bot |
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| 00:03.12 | thingfish | amphi: I don't think a mere dozen brain cells qualifies as microcephaly. ;) |
| 00:03.13 | MetaPhaze_laptop | watch out or i'll have the fcc close your channel |
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| 00:03.23 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:03.24 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: hahaha |
| 00:03.27 | ChakRa | lol |
| 00:03.46 | thingfish | ok, now we know MetaPhaze_laptop is 13 or under. |
| 00:03.54 | MetaPhaze_laptop | !build-essential |
| 00:03.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, build-essential is If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package. This package contains an informational list of packages which are considered essential for building Debian packages. or apt-get install build-essential; to be able to compile shit |
| 00:04.01 | MetaPhaze_laptop | i happen to be 30 |
| 00:04.03 | waiting | wtf |
| 00:04.06 | MetaPhaze_laptop | and shit isn't fcc compliant |
| 00:04.18 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: mental age is lagging a bit... |
| 00:04.24 | amphi | who gives a crap? |
| 00:04.30 | MetaPhaze_laptop | fcc does |
| 00:04.41 | thingfish | ok enough of this, I'm off to oftc. |
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| 00:04.50 | amphi | what is 'fcc'? Fulham Cricket Club? |
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| 00:05.16 | MetaPhaze_laptop | my mental age is lagging? i'm not foolishly attacking people trying to get help |
| 00:05.16 | GoCooL | when upgrading the kernel on my Debain (IBM thinkpad) from 2.4 to 2.6 via apt, i.e. apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 and when I try to boot into the new kernel, this is the error message i get - pivot_root: no such file or directory, I think what's happening is that pivot_root is trying to mount the actual filesystem from /dev/hda and not finding it, which gives me a feeling there is something wrong with the IDE or somesuch in the initrd file. an |
| 00:05.16 | GoCooL | y ideas on how to get the new kernel working? |
| 00:05.41 | big_g | hey sup i'm a newbie to the linux scene and decided to try debian on an old laptop i have (had to floppy install... no cd drive)... was messing with if for awhile but after updating once my X server always fails to start ( i even tried a fresh install)... anyone with any suggestions or a better way to start of learning linux on a whole |
| 00:06.13 | MetaPhaze_laptop | amphi how old are you 12? it's the federal communication commission |
| 00:06.26 | amphi | big_g: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86/xorg ? |
| 00:06.44 | big_g | yeah |
| 00:06.48 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: ah... not everyone lives in the us |
| 00:06.59 | MetaPhaze_laptop | sux to be you |
| 00:07.05 | amphi | big_g: xorg or xfree86? |
| 00:07.14 | amphi | MetaPhaze_laptop: hahaha |
| 00:07.35 | big_g | xorg |
| 00:08.06 | amphi | big_g: anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 00:09.34 | big_g | see im totally new to this all so none of that made any sense to me... those my reason for also asking if this seems like the right route to take to learning linux |
| 00:10.15 | big_g | dont get me wrong i can read that file from the command line but not of it makes sense |
| 00:10.27 | big_g | to me that is |
| 00:11.39 | waiting | :) |
| 00:11.41 | MetaPhaze_laptop | big_g what's the problem? |
| 00:12.04 | waiting | you have analysed the situation correctly |
| 00:12.08 | MetaPhaze_laptop | big_g join #mystrix we can paste there |
| 00:12.12 | waiting | now deal with it ;) |
| 00:12.52 | MetaPhaze_laptop | big_g i can teach you anything you want to know... 12 years experience with linux |
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| 00:20.36 | Kassah | is there any trick to get Debian Installer to recognize RAID Cards? |
| 00:22.21 | Gathond | Kassah: probably depends alot on the raid card, a real hardware raid card would probably not even tell the OS its a raid |
| 00:22.46 | Kassah | that's what I thoguht too :( |
| 00:22.58 | Kassah | but the debian installer is making me look at the 4 HDs |
| 00:23.03 | Kassah | maybe I should check my RAID setup |
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| 00:23.53 | Gathond | Kassah: note that most modern "raid" controllers is not in hardware, but rather an OS driver which takes care of the raid bit |
| 00:24.10 | Gathond | in which case it all comes down to whether the correct driver exists |
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| 00:25.44 | Kassah | well... I get into RAID setup via BIOS |
| 00:25.52 | Kassah | I believe it's built into the Motherboard |
| 00:26.50 | Kassah | yep |
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| 00:26.55 | Gathond | Kassah: unlesyour motherboard is mode expensive than I think, its most likely a "fakeraid" (the OS driver does the work) and hence depends totally on the driver |
| 00:27.15 | Kassah | great... |
| 00:27.29 | Kassah | spend $5k on a server... and *grumbles* |
| 00:27.30 | waiting | in other words, it's a winraid ^^ |
| 00:27.55 | Kassah | yeah |
| 00:28.00 | Kassah | I see it comes with a RAID driver |
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| 00:33.34 | Kassah | well... I don't see a driver for the RAID on Tyan's website... just a GUI |
| 00:35.25 | waiting | Kassah: oh |
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| 00:35.31 | waiting | Kassah: so it's not el cheapo |
| 00:35.39 | Kassah | well... I wouldn't go that far |
| 00:35.45 | waiting | Kassah: :) |
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| 00:35.55 | Kassah | it's a SiL3114 chipset |
| 00:36.15 | Kassah | doing Google Searches on it now |
| 00:36.59 | waiting | well siliconimage distributes an RHEL4.0U1 |
| 00:37.06 | waiting | ^^ |
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| 00:38.00 | waiting | let's hope its sources, not binaries :) |
| 00:39.21 | Kassah | but you seem to be corrent in that their Software RAID |
| 00:39.40 | Kassah | correct |
| 00:40.40 | waiting | we know our papenheimerz :] |
| 00:40.42 | Kassah | man... I'm sorry... servers shouldn't have this crap... they shouldn't have to spend precious CPU time to do RAID |
| 00:41.13 | waiting | well I'd take such a machine and put it here |
| 00:41.32 | Kassah | you'd love this box |
| 00:41.38 | stoned | buy a bigger disk |
| 00:41.49 | stoned | I've got 250 + 1250 + 40 + 60 |
| 00:41.50 | Kassah | it's got four 360GB SATA's |
| 00:41.54 | waiting | stoned: hmmmmmmm, that could actually work, you know |
| 00:42.50 | Kassah | right now in my desktop... I have 2x250, and a 160GB for my home dir |
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| 00:58.00 | barry | For two days I have been tring to get transcode installed in my debian sarge 2.6.16-11 kernel linux. I need it to run a program called dvdwizard that allows me to make dvd's from my home movies. Does anyone know why the transcode.deb file is no longer available nor are any of the support dependancies it requires. Does anyone know if or when they will be reestablished. Has any package replaced the capabilities of transcode? What is everyone |
| 00:58.00 | barry | using these days instead? |
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| 01:02.09 | liable | barry: do you have marrilat sources? |
| 01:03.07 | barry | Yes mirrilat is in my sources.list, but the deb file is not out there anymore. They removed it. I went to the pool directory with ftp to check and it is gone. |
| 01:03.51 | barry | I meant marrilat. |
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| 01:05.45 | barry | liable: What do you have in your sources.list for the marrilat source? |
| 01:06.03 | liable | barry: debian-multimedia now i think |
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| 01:06.28 | liable | yeah |
| 01:06.40 | barry | liable: could you paste the line(s) from your sources.list to this forum? |
| 01:06.42 | waiting | :) it takes a long time until this change will be known |
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| 01:07.45 | liable | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main |
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| 01:09.28 | barry | liable: Thanks a bundle. I have been googling and scrounging for two days! |
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| 01:11.30 | waiting | barry: why did you not simply visit marillat's website? :))) |
| 01:12.02 | waiting | google is not a good search engine anymore, IMHO :S |
| 01:12.58 | waiting | too many bloggers, automated content and tampering |
| 01:13.06 | barry | liable: I am somewhat of a newbie to Debian the installation of transcode fails because of incompatible versions of the packages that it wants to install. Is there a simple optiion to apt-get or whatever to tell it to find the right versions of the dependant files? |
| 01:13.32 | waiting | barry: did you apt-get update ? |
| 01:13.40 | barry | Yes |
| 01:14.11 | waiting | *update* |
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| 01:14.39 | waiting | works |
| 01:14.41 | barry | apt-get install transcode update ? |
| 01:14.42 | peder_ | /etc/init.d/courier-imap: line 91: automatically: command not found <- The problem is, there is no line 91.. There are 86 lines.. Anyone know this problem? |
| 01:14.44 | waiting | ::) |
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| 01:15.05 | waiting | barry: apt-get update && apt-get install transcode |
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| 01:17.08 | barry | liable: The error messages all look like this Depends: libdvdread3 (>= 0.9.6) but 0.9.4-5 is to be installed |
| 01:17.32 | liable | barry: paste your sources.list on a paster |
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| 01:18.41 | barry | I am running stable Sarge and the sources.list line referred to the sid release. If I change the item in my sources.list to sarge or stable will the transcode be compatible with the other packages? |
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| 01:21.14 | barry | I have to admit that I am using Ksirc and I have never used a "paster". I know that people get annoyed when people paste large blocks of code right into the forum, so to be considerate I had better nto paste my whole sources.lsit file here. |
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| 01:21.59 | liable | barry: yes, change sid to sarge |
| 01:22.16 | liable | !paste |
| 01:22.16 | dpkg | hmm... paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 01:22.18 | barry | That is what I thought would fix it. Thanks again. |
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| 01:23.29 | [Nige] | hi all |
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| 01:24.39 | barry | liable: Thanks it worked flawlessly. I just needed a good source in my sources.list, and all of the googling I did was pointing to outdated sources. |
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| 01:24.45 | Luke-Jr | after my server's running for 45 minutes, I can no longer start a new outbound connection nor send UDP, pings, or DNS |
| 01:24.54 | Luke-Jr | incoming and established connections work, however |
| 01:24.55 | Luke-Jr | any ideas? |
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| 01:25.25 | liable | barry: cool |
| 01:25.27 | rhys | Luke-Jr, an idea? god hates you |
| 01:25.33 | Luke-Jr | rhys: not likely |
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| 01:25.46 | rhys | just an idea. :D |
| 01:25.59 | rhys | no, how are you connected? |
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| 01:26.27 | rhys | and does a restart of the server fix it? |
| 01:26.38 | Luke-Jr | rhys: a restart gets me 45 more minutes |
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| 01:26.51 | Luke-Jr | I'm connected via some virtual networking thing for the VDS |
| 01:27.15 | rhys | Luke-Jr, memory leak of somekind in a program somwhere? |
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| 01:27.24 | rhys | just a guess. |
| 01:27.26 | benluo | hi |
| 01:28.00 | Luke-Jr | rhys: that would screw up the outbound stuff? |
| 01:28.03 | benluo | i plan to change my server to etch, is it stable enough for a internet server? |
| 01:28.06 | Luke-Jr | without affecting inbound? |
| 01:28.45 | rhys | usually my things go in order for time releated things. "heat, memory leaks or errors in programms, and lastly god being in a shitty mood with something i did." other than that..i dunno. |
| 01:28.55 | rhys | benluo, does your current server do what you want it to? |
| 01:29.18 | rhys | benluo, its usually not advised to use etch for any production level environs. |
| 01:29.22 | stoned | ahh man |
| 01:29.23 | stoned | finally stoned |
| 01:29.30 | benluo | rhys: just a web sever for light job |
| 01:29.38 | benluo | not so heavy |
| 01:29.41 | rhys | benluo, do you have a current one? |
| 01:29.41 | stoned | 2 months of sobriety man, killed me |
| 01:29.45 | stoned | I couldn't even code properly |
| 01:29.46 | stoned | :( |
| 01:29.49 | benluo | and a imap server for few people |
| 01:29.53 | benluo | i have sarge |
| 01:30.04 | benluo | rhys: i am using sarge |
| 01:30.07 | s0crates | i have a process running in an ssh shell but was disconnect due internet falling off.. i need to access that shell.. anyway? |
| 01:30.45 | rhys | well benluo, if it does what you want, with no problems, on low grade hardware, why bother with the troubles and/or risks of upgrading to etch? |
| 01:30.45 | stoned | s0crates, unless the process was in background, sshd was the parent process, and more than likely its dead |
| 01:31.14 | s0crates | it's actually running.. |
| 01:31.18 | stoned | s0crates, and this is NOT related to debian in anyway |
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| 01:31.22 | s0crates | richy@devel:~$ ps aux|grep cpan |
| 01:31.22 | s0crates | root 26348 0.0 2.8 46388 44840 pts/0 S+ 17:44 0:04 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/cpan -i Net::SSH::Perl |
| 01:31.26 | stoned | s0crates, go to #networking or #ssh |
| 01:31.34 | s0crates | hmm ok |
| 01:31.35 | s0crates | tanks |
| 01:31.38 | s0crates | thanks |
| 01:31.55 | benluo | rhys: that's true. I want to use two packages in etch, one is postgresql 8.1 and the other is arno-iptables-firewall |
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| 01:32.42 | mrcoyote | HI all |
| 01:32.45 | rhys | benluo, then my suggestion would be is if you have another harddrive, throw that in and do a etch install on it, try it out first |
| 01:32.55 | rhys | if not, you can just put the previous harddrive in |
| 01:33.04 | rhys | partions or such can do the same |
| 01:33.28 | benluo | rhys: thanx |
| 01:33.39 | benluo | rhys: i'll follow your suggestion |
| 01:34.08 | rhys | just a matter of saftey. if you foobar it then 5 minutes later noone will know. :D |
| 01:34.26 | benluo | rhys: yes. :P |
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| 01:40.13 | liable | s0crates: start using screen, its will save from that exact problem |
| 01:40.39 | rhys | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.13 | liable | rhys: yeah, google it |
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| 01:51.30 | Ronin | rhys: google it learn it love it :) |
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| 01:53.01 | ChakRa | yeah search for screen manpage |
| 01:53.05 | ChakRa | all the info you need prolly |
| 01:53.06 | liable | arg, i wish i could find which fucking package compiz needs for the window decorator shits |
| 01:53.10 | ChakRa | i love that feature |
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| 01:53.31 | ChakRa | liable, ~__~ |
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| 02:02.42 | unstable | Is there a network split right now? |
| 02:03.12 | unstable | There are 22,000 global users right now; So I'm going to assume not. |
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| 02:34.14 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 02:34.14 | dpkg | qotd74 is, like, < DrBlink> wow i didnt kno linux had an interface |
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| 02:35.05 | rhys | inteface? here i thought linux just read your mind and gave you blowjobs. :( |
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| 02:37.57 | shekmalhen | I just did a dist-upgrade today and went to unstable. Well, now, xdm stopped working. the xdm command runs and ends silently without any errors. |
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| 02:38.25 | shekmalhen | I tried to see what is happening with strace and saw nothing of interest |
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| 02:43.19 | shekmalhen | Is there anything known to cause problem with the transition to xorg or something? |
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| 02:50.17 | liable | shekmalhen: see /topix, go to the debian wiki and see xorg6.9->7 |
| 02:50.55 | Luke-Jr | Can I undo a dist-upgrade? :/ |
| 02:51.27 | liable | Luke-Jr: if you know what was upgraded. |
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| 02:51.48 | liable | Luke-Jr: unless you changed from etch to sid, or sarge to etch.. |
| 02:51.48 | Luke-Jr | liable: I haven't a clue-- just know it messed up my networking |
| 02:51.53 | liable | then you are screwed |
| 02:52.00 | Luke-Jr | nope, just dist-upgrade regularly |
| 02:52.16 | liable | Luke-Jr: what version of debian? |
| 02:52.17 | Random | hi can anyone here help me with wpa supplicant setup |
| 02:52.23 | peder_ | Anyone installed qmail and courier-imap ? |
| 02:52.32 | liable | !ask |
| 02:52.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 02:53.11 | Random | ok my wpasupplicant does not work ... i am really confused |
| 02:53.19 | Random | can someone help or make suggestions |
| 02:53.38 | Random | it seems to just do nothing |
| 02:53.51 | Random | i check iwconfig and essid is set to any still |
| 02:53.57 | Random | instead of my terminal |
| 02:54.18 | Random | it worked before i moved from 2.6.9 custom kernel to a 2.6.15 custom kernel |
| 02:54.24 | peder_ | I have installed qmail with vpopmail and courier-imap. I can login to the pop3 server, but when I try to authorize with the imap server it cant autorize. The logs says this: imaplogin: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1] , eventhough I know the login is correct. |
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| 02:54.26 | liable | Random: how are you calling wpasupp? what debian version? |
| 02:54.31 | Random | but i also did a apt-get update recently |
| 02:54.40 | Random | thanks |
| 02:54.46 | Random | i am using debian testing |
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| 02:55.06 | liable | Random: check /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ first |
| 02:55.10 | dvs | Random, you have to use the wext extension now |
| 02:55.12 | Random | i am calling it using /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start |
| 02:55.21 | liable | Random: there have been quit a few changes to it recently |
| 02:55.29 | Random | so is wext a complete replacement for ndis |
| 02:55.32 | Random | ? |
| 02:55.33 | liable | that is one of them.. |
| 02:55.40 | Random | how is it related? |
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| 02:55.50 | liable | read the news/changelog |
| 02:56.19 | Random | can you tell me how to find/read the news change log |
| 02:56.36 | Random | please and thnks |
| 02:56.53 | Luke-Jr | liable: Sarge |
| 02:57.11 | Luke-Jr | I think |
| 02:57.12 | Luke-Jr | 3.1 |
| 02:57.29 | liable | Luke-Jr: hrm, then there isnt any logs unless you used aptitude |
| 02:57.37 | Luke-Jr | liable: nope :( |
| 02:57.37 | liable | Luke-Jr: what exactly is broken? |
| 02:57.46 | Luke-Jr | liable: after approximately 45 minutes since booting |
| 02:57.59 | Luke-Jr | I cannot send outbound UDP, pings, nor initiate TCP connections |
| 02:58.01 | liable | Random: install mc, then go to /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ |
| 02:58.02 | dvs | Random, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/312 |
| 02:58.08 | Luke-Jr | inbound everything works, as well as established TCP |
| 02:58.15 | liable | Random: or with whatever file browser you use |
| 02:59.06 | liable | Luke-Jr: ah, i have no idea. |
| 02:59.08 | liable | :( |
| 02:59.10 | Luke-Jr | crap :( |
| 02:59.27 | Luke-Jr | It totally suggests kernel problem to me |
| 02:59.31 | Luke-Jr | but I don't have control of the kernel |
| 02:59.41 | Luke-Jr | and they claim it's all good for other people |
| 02:59.48 | Luke-Jr | who use the same kernel, I presume |
| 03:00.28 | Luke-Jr | hm, any way to send a test packet using only kernel calls? =p |
| 03:00.34 | Luke-Jr | or should ping do that? |
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| 03:02.37 | Random | thanks i'll read thru and come back later |
| 03:02.39 | Random | appreciated |
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| 03:03.15 | liable | Random: most notable was that they removed the init script. its pretty well explained |
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| 03:03.25 | shekmalhen | liable, thank you :) |
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| 03:03.38 | Greg\ory | hello |
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| 03:03.54 | liable | shekmalhen: fixed? |
| 03:04.21 | shekmalhen | liable, in parts. But xdm starts now |
| 03:04.27 | liable | cool |
| 03:05.11 | shekmalhen | it was a problem with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr |
| 03:05.20 | dut | Why someone create this martian "interface" in exim configuration? Who is need it? |
| 03:05.51 | shekmalhen | Martians feel more comfortable with it, dut :) |
| 03:06.26 | dut | How I may add just simple smtp auth with tls now? |
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| 03:07.59 | dut | i add host:user:password to passwd.client and i anyway get "Authentication Required" |
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| 03:09.32 | el_alexluna | hi all! |
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| 03:10.45 | Erica- | hi. |
| 03:11.02 | Greg\ory | someone knows to use perl -pi -e here? |
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| 03:11.02 | Erica- | is there a single floppy debian installation solution? |
| 03:11.11 | Erica- | I only have one floppy disk |
| 03:11.14 | Erica- | no cdrom |
| 03:11.21 | Erica- | currently running rh9 |
| 03:11.30 | Erica- | and I want to install debian over it |
| 03:11.33 | Erica- | what do I do? |
| 03:11.53 | Greg\ory | Erica-: trash your box :-) |
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| 03:11.59 | Erica- | lol |
| 03:12.03 | liable | Erica-: you can get a install kernel and use that |
| 03:12.17 | liable | Erica-: see the install guide, hard drive media |
| 03:12.17 | Erica- | liable: on one floppy? |
| 03:12.26 | liable | no, from your hard drive |
| 03:13.08 | Erica- | how does that work? because my hard drive is running rh9 that I want to replace with debian |
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| 03:13.55 | rue_house | I need a copy of the last kdenlive deb package |
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| 03:14.10 | liable | you get a kernel and initrd, add it to grub menu, and boot from it |
| 03:14.18 | rue_house | I uninstalled it without expecting it to dissapear off the face of the planet |
| 03:14.22 | rue_house | can anyone help me? |
| 03:14.46 | liable | is it a debian package or from another distro? |
| 03:14.53 | Erica- | i'm lost liable |
| 03:15.04 | Erica- | where is the install guide? |
| 03:15.10 | liable | !ig |
| 03:15.10 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 03:15.18 | hesco_ | Evening folks. For the last couple of weeks, one of my servers has been throwing errors like the following every time I run apt-get install or remove. Any ideas? Errors read: |
| 03:15.19 | hesco_ | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 03:15.19 | hesco_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.19 | hesco_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.19 | hesco_ | ImportError: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 03:15.35 | liable | !tell hesco_ about paste |
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| 03:17.43 | Erica- | liable where to I get the images from? |
| 03:18.14 | Greg\ory | Erica-: try Camera |
| 03:18.47 | Greg\ory | Erica-: :$ |
| 03:19.00 | Erica- | camera? |
| 03:19.02 | liable | Erica-: read the guide, it tells you |
| 03:19.23 | Erica- | Copy the following files from the Debian archives to a convenient location on your hard drive, for instance to /boot/newinstall/. |
| 03:19.25 | Greg\ory | Erica-: yes camera you can make nice pictures with :-) |
| 03:19.31 | Erica- | that is all it says |
| 03:19.37 | Greg\ory | ftp.debian.org |
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| 03:20.03 | DaveLib | Erica: do you wanted to know the basics about how to get started installing debian? |
| 03:20.25 | hardbop200 | hey all - I need a good p2p app to run in testing. something solid, highly recommended, etc. any suggestions? |
| 03:21.08 | Greg\ory | hardbop200: msn messenger? |
| 03:21.51 | hardbop200 | Greg\ory: I've always thought of that as a chat program for Windows, I'm need file sharing. |
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| 03:22.44 | hardbop200 | I'm seeing a lot about some donkey something-or-other. Is that worth trying? |
| 03:22.54 | hesco_ | sorry folks, didn't know I'd be booted for four lines. |
| 03:23.00 | Greg\ory | hardbop200: was joke ;) |
| 03:23.06 | hesco_ | Any ideas why apt-get no longer likes me on that server? |
| 03:23.07 | hardbop200 | sorry ;) |
| 03:23.26 | DaveLib | i would like to learn more about the basics of video modes on my celeron running sarge |
| 03:23.40 | liable | Erica-: see the section "obtaining installation media" |
| 03:24.38 | DaveLib | after some checking on the internet i added a kernel parameter vga=0x31a to my kernel command in grub |
| 03:25.34 | DaveLib | this did what i wanted: my boot console and the later text mode consoles VT1-6 got small fonts |
| 03:26.01 | DaveLib | i was telling the kernel the vga mode to use to make such fonts |
| 03:26.24 | DaveLib | but i want to understand better what is going on internally |
| 03:27.05 | Erica- | will I be able to irc as I download? |
| 03:27.05 | DaveLib | i suppose my video card actually integrated but equivalent to sis is svga probably? |
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| 03:28.14 | liable | Erica-: download what? |
| 03:28.26 | Erica- | as I install |
| 03:28.48 | liable | no |
| 03:28.48 | l4m3r | Is there a preferred method (and corresponding guide) for installing Debian on a fakeraid device? |
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| 03:29.20 | liable | l4m3r: the installer willl do it for you. as long as the controller is supported in the kernel |
| 03:30.09 | l4m3r | The controller requires the dmraid package, and the net install does not seem to read the array correctly. |
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| 03:30.52 | liable | err, the installer will just see two discs, and make an array for you |
| 03:31.00 | liable | dmraid is deprecated |
| 03:31.07 | Random | liable (and others): my wireless now works |
| 03:31.15 | Random | thanks! |
| 03:31.29 | l4m3r | Deprecated? yeesh |
| 03:31.30 | liable | sweet |
| 03:31.46 | Random | -D ndiswrapper i guess is dead :-) |
| 03:32.10 | hardbop200 | DaveLib: I just finished getting framebuffer working on sis |
| 03:32.24 | l4m3r | standard soft raid would certainly be easier, but I use the fakeraid to run a windoze partition, also, so straight softraid is not quite an option |
| 03:32.33 | hardbop200 | it sucked so bad I went out and bought a nvidia card :) |
| 03:32.37 | DaveLib | hardbop200: framebuffer? i dont know what that is |
| 03:33.24 | hardbop200 | DaveLib: that is what you would *expect* to get when giving the vga= command, however sis uses the sisfb driver (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/??video??/fb/ |
| 03:33.57 | DaveLib | are the common pc video cards most of us and i prabably are using are thery svga? |
| 03:34.44 | hardbop200 | not sure what you mean by that question...however, if you want nice text mode consoles on sis, vga= will *not* get it. you have to use video=sisfb etc etc |
| 03:35.07 | hardbop200 | (that part had me hung up for *days*_ |
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| 03:36.07 | hardbop200 | DaveLib: read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/sisfb.txt for more information |
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| 03:36.55 | DaveLib | thanks hardbop200 |
| 03:37.06 | hardbop200 | you're very welcome. |
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| 03:38.47 | l4m3r | So, if dmraid is deprecated, does that mean that Debian will no longer support device-mapping fakeraid? |
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| 03:46.18 | RainbowW | is there a way to install gnome without installing much of the supporting deps i don't need, like abiword and cdrecord and cdrdao? the point of this exercise is to run gnome in a vncserver to run a single app, not an entire suite. |
| 03:46.40 | dvs | !install gnome |
| 03:46.41 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 03:46.56 | RainbowW | thank you |
| 03:47.23 | RainbowW | jesus that still installs samba. :-( |
| 03:47.44 | unstable | RainbowW: Just install gnome-core |
| 03:47.57 | JViz | is it possible to install java5 sdk without fakeroot/java-package? |
| 03:48.07 | unstable | JViz: yes |
| 03:48.15 | unstable | JViz: What version of debian? |
| 03:48.21 | RainbowW | JViz: yes, but it won't be installed in a way aptitude and related utilites can manage it. |
| 03:48.25 | JViz | debian3.1r2 |
| 03:48.26 | RainbowW | which may be what you want. |
| 03:48.44 | JViz | RainbowW: there's no apt package for it/ |
| 03:48.45 | JViz | ? |
| 03:48.48 | unstable | JViz: unstable hava jdk deb packages. |
| 03:48.50 | rue_house | trying to install or compile kdenlive is dependency hell |
| 03:49.23 | RainbowW | JViz: the point of the fakeroot stuff is that the Sun JRE is distributed in a license that isn't compatible with Debian's distribution system. You must therefore go through a bunch of painful contortions. |
| 03:49.44 | unstable | rue_house: What is kdenlive? |
| 03:49.50 | JViz | RainbowW: i hear that recently changed |
| 03:50.20 | rue_house | its the only video editing sortware for linux that isn't cinneralla |
| 03:50.28 | RainbowW | JViz: i'd be surprised. it would make slashdot. it hasn't. |
| 03:50.29 | unstable | JViz: it did; hence why jdk is in unstable non-free section. |
| 03:50.36 | unstable | RainbowW: yes it has |
| 03:51.12 | unstable | !info sun-java5-jdk unstable |
| 03:51.14 | dpkg | sun-java5-jdk: (Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0), section non-free/devel, is optional. Version: 1.5.0-07-1 (sid), Packaged size: 4881 kB, Installed size: 11368 kB |
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| 03:51.43 | adiddy | hi |
| 03:51.44 | unstable | RainbowW: And Sun promised to make it free software soon also. |
| 03:51.49 | unstable | !greet adiddy |
| 03:51.49 | dpkg | Welcome, adiddy |
| 03:52.03 | RainbowW | okay, so there you go. |
| 03:52.04 | unstable | rue_house: Why not use cinellera? |
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| 03:52.11 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.13 | Maquiavelo | Hi guys |
| 03:52.20 | rue_house | cause cinerrella only crashes |
| 03:52.23 | dvs | !greet Maquiavelo |
| 03:52.23 | dpkg | Salutations, Maquiavelo |
| 03:52.26 | rue_house | and dosnt do what I want |
| 03:52.33 | rue_house | I had kdenlive isntalled and working |
| 03:52.37 | Maquiavelo | I'm running Debian Etch, for some reason, my gdm isn't working, I try ./gdm restart or ./gdm start/stop and nothing happens, not even an error, nothing. |
| 03:52.41 | JViz | unstable: do alot of people run the unstable release? |
| 03:52.42 | rue_house | I removed it *just for a sec* |
| 03:52.46 | Maquiavelo | The screen doesn't even flicker. |
| 03:52.53 | Maquiavelo | If I try startx, X starts, so what gives? |
| 03:52.53 | rue_house | and now the package is gone off the internet |
| 03:52.58 | rue_house | within like a week |
| 03:53.14 | unstable | JViz: yes |
| 03:53.18 | rue_house | I'm upset |
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| 03:53.30 | RainbowW | JViz: i used to, before the sarge released. when that happened, sid went to shit for me. |
| 03:53.30 | rue_house | cause kdenlive was deleted under my nose |
| 03:53.44 | rue_house | I found a deb for it, but the dependencies wont behave |
| 03:53.47 | JViz | RainbowW: sid? |
| 03:53.47 | rue_house | cause of kde |
| 03:53.51 | rue_house | grrrr |
| 03:53.57 | unstable | !tell Maquiavelo about xorg6.9to7 |
| 03:54.02 | rue_house | I want to make another film! |
| 03:54.08 | unstable | !tell Maquiavelo about x6.9to7 |
| 03:54.08 | RainbowW | JViz: stable == sarge; testing == etch; unstable == sid |
| 03:54.17 | Maquiavelo | unstable: Nothing lol |
| 03:54.30 | Maquiavelo | unstable: It was working before, but I installed XGL |
| 03:54.52 | unstable | !x7 problems |
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| 03:56.38 | RainbowW | you said that. |
| 03:57.33 | dondelelcaro | !depends kdelibs4 |
| 03:57.48 | rue_house | I been running around in circles |
| 03:57.51 | RainbowW | oh joy |
| 03:57.52 | rue_house | for hours now |
| 03:57.57 | RainbowW | i've managed to break my vncserver |
| 03:58.02 | dondelelcaro | !+depends kdelibs4 sarge |
| 03:58.04 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:58.06 | dpkg | kdelibs4: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libarts1 (>= 1.3.2), libasound2 (>> 1.0.8), libaspell15 (>= 0.60), libaudio2, libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.23-1), libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libfam0c102, libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libidn11 (>= 0.5.13), libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0), libjasper-1.701-1 (>= 1.701.0), ... |
| 03:58.17 | dondelelcaro | !+conflicts kdelibs4 sarge |
| 03:58.20 | dpkg | kdelibs4: kdelibs3 (<< 4:3.0.0), kdepim-libs (<< 4:3.0.0), kdetrayproxy (>= 0.2-1), libkmid (<< 4:3.0.0), libkmid-alsa (<< 4:3.0.0), kdeaccessibility (<< 3.3.0), kdeaddons (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeadmin (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeartwork (<< 4:3.3.0), kdebase (<< 4:3.3.0), kdebindings (<< 4:3.3.0), kdeedu (<< 4:3.3.0), kdegames (<< 4:3.3.0), kdegraphics (<< 4:3.3.0), kde-i18n (<< 4:3.3.0), kdemultimedia (<< 4:3.3.0), kdenetwork (<< 4:3.3.0), kdepim (<< 4:3.3.0), kdesdk ... |
| 03:58.37 | dondelelcaro | damn I hate kde packages. |
| 03:58.46 | rue_house | am I just totally burned out? |
| 03:58.49 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: in any event the conflict is almost assuredly a versioned conflict. |
| 03:59.41 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: esp. considering the fact that the dependency is also similarly versioned. |
| 04:00.40 | rue_house | whats worse is I been in the same freaking runaround trying to get the dependencies I need to compile it |
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| 04:00.59 | rue_house | at this rate I'm gonna have to pull in every source package there is and compile everything |
| 04:01.05 | rue_house | (:( |
| 04:01.08 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, how can I download a .deb package directly from the repository? without using apt/aptitude |
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| 04:01.13 | Maquiavelo | I mean, where is the URL |
| 04:01.15 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 04:01.22 | rue_house | install kdenlive |
| 04:01.31 | Maquiavelo | I want to get eterm, but it's not in etch, but it's in unstable and stable |
| 04:01.32 | rue_house | thats my goal |
| 04:01.37 | dondelelcaro | Maquiavelo: apt-cache show foopkg; will tell you the entry in the pool. |
| 04:01.58 | rue_house | inteh past week they pulled it out ofthe debian archives |
| 04:02.09 | Maquiavelo | dondelelcaro: What if it's in a different version? |
| 04:02.21 | Maquiavelo | dondelelcaro: I'm running Etch, but the package is available in Sarge and Sid. |
| 04:02.24 | Maquiavelo | Not Etch. |
| 04:02.45 | dondelelcaro | Maquiavelo: so look at packages.debian.org, find the package, and click the download link for your architecture. |
| 04:02.59 | Maquiavelo | That's the url ! :P |
| 04:03.00 | Maquiavelo | Thanks |
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| 04:03.19 | [erica-] | Hi! |
| 04:03.22 | [erica-] | liable it worked! |
| 04:03.25 | [erica-] | it's installing now |
| 04:03.32 | [erica-] | and i'm able to irc at the same time! |
| 04:03.39 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: ok... from what I can tell it wasn't ever there. In any event, what is keeping you from installing the dependencies that you need to build it? |
| 04:03.49 | rue_house | I'v burned up 20% of a 2G partition trying to get this program back |
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| 04:04.10 | [erica-] | rue_house awwww, poor baby |
| 04:04.19 | [erica-] | :D |
| 04:04.31 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: so apt-get install the build dependencies that you need, and build it. If you're having a problem installing them, /msg dpkg bat; and give us the appropriate output. |
| 04:04.54 | [erica-] | is the latest debian glibc 2.3.3? |
| 04:05.00 | rue_house | ok, the primary problem is that they need kde-config AND libqt3-mt, which, if I recall correctly, conflict |
| 04:05.21 | liable | [erica-]: cool |
| 04:05.32 | [erica-] | will there be an apt-get for oracle installation? |
| 04:05.39 | rue_house | been at htis for 3 days now, all because a package was removed from the archives while I wasn't expecting it |
| 04:05.42 | dondelelcaro | [erica-]: no, unless oracle provides it. |
| 04:06.01 | dondelelcaro | !+find kde-config sarge |
| 04:06.03 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 04:06.09 | [erica-] | i'm running debian on celeron 800mhz :~( |
| 04:06.11 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kde-config' (2): (/usr/bin/kde-config) in libs/kdelibs-bin ;; (/usr/share/apps/kdevappwizard/template-common/kde-configure.in.in) in kde/kdevelop3-data. |
| 04:06.12 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: then you should be able to install libqt3-mt-dev; I don't know what provides kde-config, but dpkg will tell us |
| 04:06.13 | [erica-] | it's all I have |
| 04:06.51 | rue_house | its been a day since I tried to compile, so I'm not sure wwhat I'm saying is accurate |
| 04:06.59 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: so yeah, installing kdelibs-bin and libqt3-mt-dev will provide that. |
| 04:07.22 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: if you're using etch, you'll have to get kdelibs-bin from sid, but that's fairly simple. |
| 04:07.36 | dondelelcaro | (at least, until kdelibs-bin migrates back into testing |
| 04:08.01 | rue_house | kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.4) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 04:08.13 | rue_house | sorry |
| 04:08.27 | RainbowW | where does one set gnome as the default wm, if kde is also installed? when i connect to the X server i'm currently getting generic gray with the X cursor and that's about it. ps shows some gnome components but i'm obviously missing something. |
| 04:08.58 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: so walk through the dependencies of libqt3-mt-dev trying to install them, and tell me what fails. [or kdelibs4, either will work] |
| 04:09.01 | rue_house | erp, how do I specify a sid ver? |
| 04:09.05 | dondelelcaro | !+info kdelibs4 |
| 04:09.07 | dpkg | Package 'kdelibs4' does not exist. |
| 04:09.13 | rue_house | hah |
| 04:09.21 | dondelelcaro | !+info kdelibs4 sarge |
| 04:09.23 | dpkg | kdelibs4: (KDE core libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-6.4 (sarge), Packaged size: 8011 kB, Installed size: 23440 kB |
| 04:09.26 | rue_house | there's defiance |
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| 04:09.41 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: you don't specify sid versions unless you're running sid. |
| 04:10.11 | rue_house | this is be getting bit for adding unstable package sources to my system to get the things I want isn't it? |
| 04:10.18 | acad | what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 04:10.44 | dondelelcaro | acad: man apt-get; explains it fairly well. |
| 04:11.03 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: no, you don't want to do that. You shouldn't need unstable packages to build kdenlive. |
| 04:11.18 | dondelelcaro | if you have to, you want to backport exactly the packages required to build it... but with kde even that may be madness. |
| 04:11.21 | rue_house | no I need them for other software packages that otherwise aren't available |
| 04:11.42 | rue_house | I think I had to do it to make my nvidia kernel work under kernel 2.6 |
| 04:11.43 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: uh... so build them against sarge, or backport them. |
| 04:12.08 | dondelelcaro | using packages from sid without understanding what you're doing will end up with your system in the state that you've gotten it in |
| 04:12.34 | rue_house | its caught in limbo isn't it? |
| 04:12.51 | rue_house | its too old to be new and to new to be old, isn't it? |
| 04:13.28 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: no, it's just got packages which are from different versions and aren't necessarily compatible. You have to resolve the problems yourself by figuring out what versions you want installed, and which you don't. The curses aptitude interface will help you somewhat. |
| 04:13.45 | RainbowW | so i get the gnome 2.14 splash screen, and when it finally disappears, all i get is the old X gray with the x cursor. what gives? |
| 04:14.16 | dondelelcaro | RainbowW: the window manager didn't start. |
| 04:14.20 | dondelelcaro | (for whatever reason) |
| 04:14.37 | rue_house | it helped me last time, it cant make sensse out of the mess I have now |
| 04:14.42 | rue_house | ok, idea |
| 04:15.09 | rue_house | I comment out the unstable packages, and start uninstalling everything supurflious thats gone in over the past 3 days |
| 04:15.31 | rue_house | add thing back one piece at a time |
| 04:15.49 | rue_house | does apt keep a dated log of my screwups? |
| 04:16.14 | RainbowW | no. |
| 04:16.19 | rue_house | cause I know theyaren't in the history files anymore... |
| 04:16.21 | rue_house | damn |
| 04:16.24 | rue_house | that would be nice |
| 04:16.34 | rue_house | how about dpkg, does it keep a log? |
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| 04:17.12 | rue_house | stardate 21-01-03 4:34 user pushing my buttons by installing less nedit and vim |
| 04:17.29 | RainbowW | dondelelcaro: is there a log somewhere that might explain why the wm isn't starting? or some other useful place i might look? |
| 04:17.44 | rue_house | /var/log/Xorg* |
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| 04:19.02 | RainbowW | i'll take that as a no. |
| 04:21.30 | waiting | lets have a cof |
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| 04:24.46 | flurdoing | hello.. im getting a kernel panic after upgrading the kernel. looks like my lilo config is out of wack but i cant access the box as it has no cdrom/floppy to boot thru for fs access |
| 04:24.54 | flurdoing | the error is: kernel panic : not syncing; VFS; Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (3,2) |
| 04:25.10 | flurdoing | is there any way for me to muck with lilo boot params without getting into the system? |
| 04:25.28 | dondelelcaro | RainbowW: .ssession-errors often has errors too |
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| 04:25.48 | Edgardoweb | hello |
| 04:25.49 | flurdoing | i find myself at that ugly red lilo menu but 'e' doesnt do anything :/ |
| 04:25.53 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: can you boot the system somehow? |
| 04:25.57 | flurdoing | dondelelcaro: nope |
| 04:26.09 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: oh, I understand now... you want to specify a root= option there. |
| 04:26.10 | Edgardoweb | what is Linux of wiki |
| 04:26.16 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: sorry, I thought you meant remotely. |
| 04:26.24 | flurdoing | dondelelcaro: i have another deb box- but its a laptop. i tried connecting the disk to it via this cheap ide->usb cable, but couldnt mount it |
| 04:26.35 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: type in the name of the kernel you want to boot, then root=/right/bootpath |
| 04:26.43 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: if you want a different kernel, just select it with the arrow keys. |
| 04:26.54 | flurdoing | dondelelcaro: i cant select with arrow keys-- only option is the broken one |
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| 04:27.16 | flurdoing | dondelelcaro: so i can specify it manually if i know the name of the kernel (i'm going to have to guess) :/ |
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| 04:27.50 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: the name is what is listed there |
| 04:28.35 | flurdoing | stupid lilo.. it randomly decides whether or not to show me the boot menu :/ |
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| 04:28.51 | Libra102 | how can I mp3 to dcf for my mobile. |
| 04:28.53 | rue_house | er? turn up the timeout |
| 04:29.01 | dondelelcaro | or hold down shift |
| 04:29.04 | flurdoing | rue_house: i'd love to :) if i could only get into the box |
| 04:30.04 | flurdoing | holding down shift works. :) |
| 04:30.21 | rue_house | oh sorry, thought you knew that |
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| 04:32.00 | flurdoing | any guesses as to what root= should read? :S |
| 04:32.16 | waiting | flurdoing: no guessing! read manpage :P |
| 04:32.46 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: something like /dev/hda5 or whatever your root device actually is |
| 04:32.47 | flurdoing | i promise to read the manpage once i'm back in my box |
| 04:32.59 | waiting | flurdoing: its online, too : ) |
| 04:33.07 | dondelelcaro | unfortunatly, I can't tell you what that is. |
| 04:33.26 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: if you really can't do it, boot off of a cdrom or floppy or something |
| 04:33.32 | RainbowW | azureus fails with a cairo error, cairo does not yet support the requested image format. the only google reference i can find is in polish. has someone run into this before? |
| 04:33.39 | flurdoing | yeah.. i'll have to go get a cdrom / fd |
| 04:35.19 | RainbowW | trying that was a disaster too. |
| 04:35.59 | RainbowW | at the moment i'm stuck with qtorrent. |
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| 04:37.24 | RainbowW | which is a resonable client if you like no-frills, except of course that it's a cpu hog. |
| 04:37.39 | flurdoing | when it says it was unable to mount root fs on unknwon-block(3,2)-- what exactly is going on? |
| 04:37.52 | RainbowW | flurdoing: it means you're screwed. |
| 04:37.56 | flurdoing | i can keep trying boot= options-- there are few disks/partitions |
| 04:38.23 | flurdoing | does it mean the disk is dead? or does it mean it couldnt find a kernel image? i dont get it :/ |
| 04:38.41 | waiting | flurdoing: its that the block device is unknown :) |
| 04:38.47 | flurdoing | i had recently done an apt-get (tho it was a while ago) the box rebooted, then this happend.. |
| 04:38.49 | dondelelcaro | flurdoing: it means that it either 1) couldn't find the root filesystem there or 2) doesn't have the right module to mount the device there. |
| 04:38.50 | waiting | flurdoing: the numbers are some hardware bus stuff |
| 04:38.59 | flurdoing | box rebooted due to a power failure btw.. so im worried it wrecked my disk |
| 04:39.21 | waiting | flurdoing: attach a CD-ROM to it and run a system rescue cd |
| 04:39.32 | waiting | flurdoing: there are good ones |
| 04:39.45 | flurdoing | which do you suggest waiting? |
| 04:39.49 | waiting | hmmm |
| 04:40.17 | waiting | http://www.sysresccd.org |
| 04:40.28 | waiting | saves my ass once :) |
| 04:40.40 | waiting | :X my prolongued behind |
| 04:41.13 | rue_house | instead of saying things like UNSTAISFIED why dont they say "Conflict", or "Available version too old" or "package unavailable" |
| 04:41.52 | rue_house | apt errors are SO unhelpfull |
| 04:41.53 | apt | ...but errors is already something else... |
| 04:41.53 | waiting | rue_house: because that was unsatisfying ^^ |
| 04:42.15 | waiting | apt, you know a lot |
| 04:42.35 | rue_house | but how do I even find out in aptitude WHY is says unsatisfied? |
| 04:42.37 | rue_house | I cant |
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| 04:43.00 | rue_house | I have to apt-get install, look at the failures, and apt-cache policy each one |
| 04:43.08 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: sure you can. press enter on the package, and look at what is broken. |
| 04:43.34 | rue_house | it dosn't say! |
| 04:43.47 | rue_house | if I hit enter on a red line, it just gives me a servion number |
| 04:43.56 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: if a line is red, it's broken. |
| 04:43.59 | rue_house | with p beside it |
| 04:44.07 | rue_house | YES WHY IS IT BROKEN! |
| 04:44.11 | rue_house | see thats what I want ot know |
| 04:44.19 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: you press enter on it, it'll give you the version information for it, and tell what it depends on, and what it conflicts with, and which of those are broken. |
| 04:44.44 | rue_house | no it just gives me a version number that I click on and get more red line that dont tell me anything |
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| 04:45.05 | rue_house | and it uses the mouse interface, so ica nt even copy lines |
| 04:45.18 | rue_house | and I'm so verry frustrated |
| 04:45.31 | waiting | rue_house: try copy&paste with shift key held |
| 04:45.32 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: so take a screenshot |
| 04:45.36 | flurdoing | is it possible to set up a windows box to serve up something like sysresccd such that this box can network boot it? the bios supports network boot. Sorry to ask such an obscure question but i want to try and solve this problem without having to wait till tomorrow to visit the store :/ |
| 04:45.43 | rue_house | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.49 | rue_house | p 4:3.3.2-6.4 |
| 04:45.51 | waiting | rue_house: :) |
| 04:45.53 | rue_house | dosn't tell me anything |
| 04:45.57 | rue_house | (thanks) |
| 04:45.59 | waiting | me neither :D |
| 04:46.04 | waiting | np :) |
| 04:46.14 | rue_house | ok, so I hit enter on the version number, and just get more of that |
| 04:46.36 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: yes, you drill down, and see why they cannot be installed. In that case, just press + to install it. |
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| 04:46.38 | rue_house | I dont know if its problem is that it cant get the package at all, if it cant get the right version number, or if it conflicts with something |
| 04:47.07 | relis | hey all, if im a typical home user, just to watch movies and chat and stuff, what version of debian should I install, Sarge r2?? |
| 04:47.08 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: if you see an available version in aptitude, the package exists. |
| 04:47.12 | rue_house | and its showing things as unsatisfied when there are just suggested things it dosn't have |
| 04:47.14 | dondelelcaro | relis: sarge, yes. |
| 04:47.24 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: ignore the suggests. |
| 04:47.29 | relis | so sarge > etch? |
| 04:47.29 | rue_house | + isn't working... |
| 04:47.32 | dondelelcaro | (and the recommends) they do not matter. |
| 04:47.47 | rue_house | but I have to drill down into 20 things to find out |
| 04:47.51 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: + just marks them to be installed; so it may not fix the problem, but you should see that you've requested them to be installed. |
| 04:48.08 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: sure, that's why mixing and matching stable and unstable is not something that you should be doing. |
| 04:48.15 | waiting | ah |
| 04:48.25 | waiting | thats why he has so low versions on kdelibs-bin |
| 04:48.28 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 04:48.28 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 04:48.41 | rue_house | but I have all the unstable packages that started this out |
| 04:48.46 | rue_house | and its still doing it to me |
| 04:49.03 | waiting | rue_house: if you want to use unstable distribution, it's best you do dist-upgrade IMHO |
| 04:49.21 | rue_house | yea |
| 04:49.23 | rue_house | I cant |
| 04:49.28 | waiting | rue_house: otherwise youll have 2x as many problems as if you just used unstable |
| 04:49.34 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: so start at the top of what you want to install, pressing + on everything that it conflicts with. It'll attempt to install it. Then drill down to the things that are still broken, and fix those. |
| 04:49.40 | rue_house | I have postgresss database I cant upgrade, cause they will get destroyed, they always do |
| 04:49.41 | streuner | You don't want recommend unstable for somebody who isn't able to handle a simple frontend. |
| 04:49.59 | waiting | streuner: oh, why not |
| 04:50.00 | rue_house | :/ |
| 04:50.11 | waiting | streuner: I am unable to handle it either (which is why I don't use it) |
| 04:50.19 | dondelelcaro | waiting: unless you're willing to support them yourself, don't recommend unstable |
| 04:50.30 | waiting | dondelelcaro: support ^^ |
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| 04:50.43 | waiting | dondelelcaro: BWAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 04:50.52 | waiting | dondelelcaro: ;D that was funny |
| 04:51.06 | waiting | ok, I am willing :) |
| 04:51.15 | rue_house | streuner, and what do I do if their circular? |
| 04:51.21 | rue_house | just keep drilling? |
| 04:51.33 | dondelelcaro | rue_house: circular ones aren't a big deal, just ignore them and keep drilling down into the other dependencies. |
| 04:51.51 | rue_house | kdelibs4 kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 |
| 04:52.58 | dondelelcaro | those depend upon eachother, so that's not a big deal. |
| 04:53.10 | dondelelcaro | you have to make sure that you've got the exact version that you want to use installed. |
| 04:55.17 | waiting | irc client for emacs? :D |
| 04:55.50 | waiting | I knew how to save a file in it once .) |
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| 04:56.57 | waiting | E: Package emacs has no installation candidate |
| 04:57.01 | waiting | :O wtf |
| 04:57.19 | rue_house | apt-cache policy emacs |
| 04:57.28 | waiting | rue_house: ??:)) |
| 04:57.35 | rue_house | I think itn'sll come up with nothing |
| 04:57.50 | DaveLib | waiting: i am using erc an irc client inside emacs |
| 04:57.58 | waiting | nah ;) its one of those packages that have a version in the package _name_ |
| 04:58.11 | waiting | "emacs21" |
| 04:58.19 | rue_house | ah, right |
| 04:58.20 | waiting | I dislike that, actually |
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| 05:00.52 | rue_house | apt-cache search emacs |
| 05:01.02 | rue_house | or if it commes down to it |
| 05:01.07 | rue_house | apt-file search emacs|grep bin |
| 05:01.21 | rue_house | should you never have to go that far... |
| 05:01.40 | waiting | rue_house: thyvm :) |
| 05:01.47 | rue_house | arg? |
| 05:01.49 | rue_house | ah |
| 05:01.52 | rue_house | :) |
| 05:02.08 | rue_house | "tricks in the war against apt" |
| 05:02.28 | rue_house | well, those are just battles, THIS is a war |
| 05:02.35 | dondelelcaro | waiting: that's primarily because you can have different versions of emacs installed. |
| 05:03.00 | rue_house | O |
| 05:03.06 | rue_house | I'm losing, more and more red |
| 05:03.22 | Ox0F0-0FF | I was wondering if there was something to interface freebsd ports and such with a command line apt |
| 05:03.27 | DaveLib | i was asking earlier about graphics in my sarge system with video card equivalent sis |
| 05:03.36 | Ox0F0-0FF | with all apt options but performing the same stuff on freebsd |
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| 05:03.44 | Ox0F0-0FF | i mean just apt-get and apt-cache |
| 05:03.47 | DaveLib | hardbop200 told me about sisfb |
| 05:04.33 | DaveLib | i googled sisfb and found a web page for it i think it is a framebuffer module for sis video |
| 05:05.09 | DaveLib | anyway i just looked in /proc/modules i found some modules with sis in the name but no sis fb |
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| 05:05.32 | DaveLib | this is just the sarge i installed off the repositiries |
| 05:05.44 | Ox0F0-0FF | Should have a standard way to name modules.... driv_vga_sis_fb |
| 05:05.46 | DaveLib | so i guess i dont have sisfb |
| 05:06.43 | DaveLib | i added a kernel option in grub vga=0x31a |
| 05:07.14 | DaveLib | hardbop200 i think was telling me a better alternative is to add instead video=sisfb |
| 05:07.27 | waiting | DaveLib: for VESA 2.0 compliant graphics cards, vesafb should produce a framebuffer with a resolution of 640x480 if that's enough for your purposes |
| 05:07.44 | DaveLib | but i guess not for me if i dont have it installed |
| 05:08.08 | DaveLib | is framebuffer the one for the console VT 's ? |
| 05:08.11 | waiting | yeh |
| 05:08.25 | waiting | for colorful console ^^ |
| 05:08.40 | DaveLib | so the console VT's are using vga modes? |
| 05:09.23 | waiting | DaveLib: well, yes ... but there are a lot of framebuffer drivers for cards like matrox, nvidia (maybe sis, too) that speed up specific cards |
| 05:09.34 | waiting | those then can do practically any mode |
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| 05:10.09 | DaveLib | i just logged into one of my text concoles and did ls -c so i got color |
| 05:10.40 | waiting | DaveLib: well the normal text console can do colors already, by means of SVGA |
| 05:10.47 | DaveLib | are most of our video cards now svga? |
| 05:11.02 | waiting | it has been a long time that I have seen a card that is not :)) |
| 05:11.41 | DaveLib | so the comand i put into grub ie kernel option vga=0x31a that looks like it is picking a vga mode |
| 05:11.48 | waiting | yes |
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| 05:11.58 | waiting | there is a FrameBuffer HOWTO |
| 05:12.08 | DaveLib | so that is my svga card being backward compatible with vga? |
| 05:12.13 | waiting | it explains what values you can use there if you have a VESA framebuffer |
| 05:12.26 | DaveLib | ahh thanks |
| 05:12.38 | waiting | its a short table, but the numbers are rather odd |
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| 05:14.23 | waiting | IT HAS A GUI :OOO |
| 05:14.44 | rue_house | it has for years |
| 05:14.56 | waiting | it looks like a windows app :// |
| 05:14.56 | DaveLib | ahh thanks waiting: i just found the framebuffer howto on the web |
| 05:14.56 | rue_house | no different than being in a colsole though |
| 05:15.25 | waiting | DaveLib: np, if you give me lspci of your VGA card, maybe we find a framebuffer driver |
| 05:15.29 | DaveLib | i dont understand much about video cards and graphics |
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| 05:15.53 | rue_house | you run knoppix and it just works |
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| 05:16.04 | rue_house | copy its config files to debian and you kinda-ok |
| 05:16.07 | DaveLib | how do i give you lspci of my vga card? |
| 05:16.25 | rue_house | www.pastebin.com |
| 05:16.56 | streuner | DaveLib: /exec -o lspci -v | grep -i vga |
| 05:17.05 | rue_house | waitor! there is a hare in my soup! |
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| 05:17.42 | rue_house | I asked for two! |
| 05:17.55 | waiting | =:) |
| 05:18.28 | DaveLib | thanks streuner |
| 05:19.05 | rue_house | why wont aptitide install things that I can apt-get ? |
| 05:19.56 | rue_house | its jucase numlock isn't down |
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| 05:20.45 | DaveLib | ok i got one line from that command can i paste it here? |
| 05:20.52 | rue_house | sure |
| 05:20.58 | DaveLib | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX/741/M741/760/M760 PCI/AGP (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 05:21.01 | rue_house | but you have to type it out :) |
| 05:21.13 | DaveLib | oops too late :) |
| 05:21.26 | rue_house | oh youda just made a typo anyhow |
| 05:21.41 | rue_house | ok, now the big question |
| 05:21.45 | rue_house | why did you tell us that |
| 05:22.08 | DaveLib | waiting said we could look for a framebuffer for it using that |
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| 05:22.30 | DaveLib | *now if someone would just tell me what a framebuffer is... * :) |
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| 05:23.21 | rue_house | uh ho,m it wants to remove gnumeric |
| 05:23.22 | DaveLib | tho i like the concoles i got by vga=0x31a |
| 05:23.46 | Ox0F0-0FF | frame | buffer |
| 05:23.48 | rue_house | a framebuffer stops any flashing |
| 05:25.09 | waiting | DaveLib: maybe you dig this: http://hvdkooij.xs4all.nl/linux-pvr.en.cms |
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| 05:26.04 | DaveLib | that kernel option vga=0x31a gave me small font in the boot screen and text consoles compared to much larger original fonts in the default sarge |
| 05:26.20 | DaveLib | thanks waiting i will look at that |
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| 05:28.36 | DaveLib | can i change font size like that interactively during a shell session with a command? ie change for the current vt |
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| 05:29.15 | Krymore | hi guys, i have apache2 running on sarge but i get a forbidden error when i try to access /~user and the directory doesn't have any index.html |
| 05:29.26 | Krymore | how can i make it so that it lists the directory contents |
| 05:29.39 | waiting | DaveLib: sure |
| 05:29.42 | waiting | DaveLib: consolechars -f /usr/share/consolefonts/lat1-08.psf.gz |
| 05:29.55 | waiting | DaveLib: looks a little "pressed" tho ^^ |
| 05:30.16 | rue_house | Krymore, might he a better #apache question, but I think there is an option in httpd.conf |
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| 05:30.40 | DaveLib | waiting: before i try that can i undo it back to what i had after that command? |
| 05:30.42 | waiting | DaveLib: ah, must be done as root |
| 05:30.49 | waiting | DaveLib: sec ... |
| 05:31.21 | dive-o | hmm, now the question is do I want to put these two WD800JD's in my kubuntu workstation... I'm not a fan of WD SATA :( |
| 05:31.24 | waiting | DaveLib: consolechars --help ; consolechars -d # should be |
| 05:31.37 | tanob | hello, I bought a PixelView PlayTV MPEG2 and it's TV is working (well, some channels aren't being tuned), but the radio isn't working, somebody knows some tip? |
| 05:31.40 | DaveLib | thanks waiting i will check that out |
| 05:31.43 | waiting | DaveLib: -d restores the "default font" |
| 05:32.06 | waiting | DaveLib: enjoy! console warriors always welcome ;D |
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| 05:32.50 | dive-o | I guess I will, but not tonight. tonight was get software raid 1 on the fileserver's boot drives night :) |
| 05:33.05 | dive-o | crap, wrong chan, sorry |
| 05:33.06 | DaveLib | waiting i just looked at the --help i see what you say about -d |
| 05:33.58 | DaveLib | if the -d only retores a system default ie hardcoded default and not the one i put in could i get back by logging out of that vt? |
| 05:34.11 | lokkju | any of you seen "include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element type" when trying to compile something against the 2.6.8-2-686 kernel headers? |
| 05:34.30 | lokkju | I've google, but no real explinations of what is causing it |
| 05:34.37 | waiting | DaveLib: well you can change the default |
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| 05:34.53 | DaveLib | if nothing else i could always get to normal by rebooting |
| 05:35.11 | waiting | DaveLib: unless you changed the default, so don't do that ^^ |
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| 05:35.16 | DaveLib | ok i will try stuff now |
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| 05:35.45 | DaveLib | ahh damn i cant paste between X where i am in irc and the text concole |
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| 05:36.16 | dabreegster | DaveLib: I wonder if you used gpm for X... think it'd transfer the buffer? |
| 05:36.20 | dive-o | DaveLib: could always paste to a text file, that's what I do |
| 05:36.29 | rue_house | I liek aptitude cause it can downgrade, which gets me out of my messups |
| 05:36.45 | waiting | rue_house: you change opinions fast ;D |
| 05:36.45 | DaveLib | ahh good idea dive-o |
| 05:36.57 | rue_house | its almost the only thing I like about it |
| 05:37.10 | rue_house | I'm rewindingmy system with little inncodents |
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| 05:37.15 | rue_house | few that is |
| 05:37.47 | rue_house | ok, I didn't lose gnumeric all togethor |
| 05:37.48 | rue_house | good |
| 05:37.49 | DaveLib | dabreegster i dunno X has its own paste system so replace it with gpm? |
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| 05:38.09 | DaveLib | aptitude downgrades i did not know that |
| 05:38.11 | rue_house | haha....hahaha |
| 05:38.13 | rue_house | hahahahahahah |
| 05:38.13 | dive-o | I just finished migrating everything on my fileserver from two 80 gig drives, two 250 gig drives, and one 120 gig drive, to the two 250s in a raid 1 and two 750s... took a lot of planning |
| 05:38.18 | rue_house | kdenlive is insatlled?!?! |
| 05:38.24 | dive-o | but it runs much cooler now :) |
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| 05:39.55 | rue_house | unfortunatly, its the wrong version |
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| 05:40.11 | rue_house | I have to find version 0.3 |
| 05:40.27 | rue_house | does anyone have an archive with kdenlive 0.3 ? |
| 05:40.31 | rue_house | pleeeease? |
| 05:40.45 | lokkju | any of you seen "include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element type" when trying to compile something against the 2.6.8-2-686 kernel headers? |
| 05:41.51 | waiting | lokkju: is there any "asm-i386.h not found" error before it? |
| 05:42.10 | waiting | ehm asm-i386/blah.h |
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| 05:44.59 | DaveLib | wow that command worked changed my font in the text console ie the first command |
| 05:45.10 | DaveLib | i will try the -d command now |
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| 05:46.03 | DaveLib | hey great! it put me back to my 0x31a not the original sarge default |
| 05:46.32 | DaveLib | i guess my kernel option vga=0x31a reset the default |
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| 05:49.37 | simonrvn | you can echo stuff to the relevant pty too. if you own it you can do "echo 'foo bar' > /dev/pts/3" or "... /dev/tty2" or such |
| 05:51.55 | debian-san | Hi, I'm trying to resize a partition with parted and it says the partition is in use. According to umount, the partition is not even mounted. Not surprising as I'm using a live CD to do the operation. How could I know what's using the partition? Is it possible to use a partition that is not mounted? Sounds a silly question but I ask anyway. |
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| 05:52.15 | rkrush | Hey, folks! |
| 05:52.39 | lokkju | waiting, nope, there is not |
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| 05:53.30 | rkrush | I just installed Debian yesterday and am having a bit of a hard time adjusting. It could also be due to having to use my server as a desktop workstation for some time, but who knows ;) Firstly, what would be a good user-friendly desktop environment? I installed GNUstep in hopes that maybe it would be nice, but it seems very patchy at best and.. odd. |
| 05:54.03 | dabreegster | rkrush: User friendly... KDE or GNOME. |
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| 05:54.07 | simonrvn | xfce4 =) |
| 05:54.21 | rkrush | dabreegster: User friendly in the Mac way :P |
| 05:54.43 | simonrvn | gnome is more mac-ey than kde |
| 05:54.49 | dabreegster | rkrush: I'm a crazy command line junkie, so you probably shouldn't listen to me |
| 05:55.02 | lokkju | waiting, http://pastebin.ca/95653 |
| 05:55.04 | simonrvn | xfce4 is a bit in-between |
| 05:55.08 | lokkju | waiting, is the whole error |
| 05:55.19 | deadcat | get a fucking Mac |
| 05:55.25 | stoned | inshey dudes |
| 05:55.29 | stoned | -ins |
| 05:55.34 | rkrush | deadcat: I have a fucking Mac, but I need to use this for a while ATM. |
| 05:55.48 | deadcat | rkrush: stop complaining then |
| 05:55.52 | stoned | my mac runs sarte/testing for a year.5 ago |
| 05:55.58 | stoned | sarge* |
| 05:56.02 | simonrvn | i'm surrounded by them :) |
| 05:56.12 | stoned | hey simon |
| 05:56.17 | simonrvn | hey dude |
| 05:56.23 | stoned | I recorded an 18 minute piece today, on the guitar, all my latest works |
| 05:56.29 | stoned | interested |
| 05:56.30 | simonrvn | oh nice |
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| 05:56.33 | simonrvn | sure |
| 05:56.43 | stoned | http://laptop.letme.getmyip.com:8181/~stoned/new.ogg |
| 05:56.48 | stoned | 7mb |
| 05:56.51 | stoned | recording sucks |
| 05:56.58 | stoned | but do comment on technique and theory |
| 05:57.08 | rkrush | deadcat: I'm not complaining, I'm asking for opinions. |
| 05:57.10 | jstevens | How can I tell what X is using for my screen refresh rate? I see various Modelines in /var/log/xorg.0.log but nothing to indicate what the *current* configuration is. |
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| 05:57.24 | rkrush | So basically nobody's using GNUstep, huh? |
| 05:57.38 | simonrvn | i'll do this from the beige, it can at least handle more than one intense task at a time... |
| 05:58.00 | stoned | im drunk on cheap vodka |
| 05:58.07 | stoned | ehehe, and I got high earlier too |
| 05:58.17 | stoned | didn't wann waste it, so I recorded 18 minutes of nonstop shred |
| 05:58.20 | stoned | tell me what you think |
| 06:00.03 | simonrvn | rkrush: nope. tried it a few times. i agree it's very strange |
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| 06:02.46 | jstevens | Anyone know how to tell what the current vertical refresh rate is? |
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| 06:04.17 | unix_infidel | jstevens: press the menu button on your LCD / CRT or whatever. |
| 06:04.26 | unix_infidel | and then navigate until you find the proper information. |
| 06:05.13 | simonrvn | i don't like the default theming either. too cartoony or immature looking/me is very visual |
| 06:05.42 | jstevens | unix_infidel: I can do that on my 19" ViewSonic, but I have an old 20" Sony that doesn't show the refresh rate on the OSD. |
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| 06:07.07 | jstevens | unix_infidel: I would have thought the xorg log file would say what it's using for a refresh rate. Is there some utility? |
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| 06:08.32 | simonrvn | xdpyinfo ? |
| 06:09.00 | jstevens | simonrvn: Yep, looked at xdpyinfo, but it doesn't give refresh rate information... |
| 06:09.23 | simonrvn | that's true |
| 06:09.36 | jstevens | Mmmm... |
| 06:10.48 | Tallu | I tried to switch my hd from my old computer to a whole new build, and hoped for debian to work right away. However, it gets stuck on mounting root filesystem and drops me to an easybox initramfs shell. I can't mount the hd, even though it is visible in dmesg |
| 06:11.14 | simonrvn | busybox, FYI :) |
| 06:11.29 | Tallu | simonrvn: sorry :) |
| 06:11.37 | simonrvn | hehe it's ok |
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| 06:11.47 | waiting | maybe the filesystem? |
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| 06:12.46 | Tallu | waiting: humm, what about it? dmesg lists 3 partitions but I cant even list them with fdisk or anything else |
| 06:12.54 | waiting | Tallu: has your HD been IDE primary master before and now is like secondary master= |
| 06:12.56 | rkrush | Okay, next, is there a good monospace font for X11 I can use? fixed gets too "bold" at larger sizes. |
| 06:12.58 | Tallu | I suppose I could just try and reinstall but in a way that would seem like giving up |
| 06:13.18 | Tallu | waiting: its been primary the whole time I think |
| 06:13.26 | Tallu | I'll go double check though |
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| 06:16.42 | Tallu | waiting: oh god. thanks a lot! |
| 06:17.12 | freedgnu | for a Via VT8251 SATA controller with Samsung SATA HDD, which boot |
| 06:17.12 | freedgnu | image should be used? |
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| 06:18.12 | Stormy | What's the proper way to give the install cd for sarge more modules to load before installing? |
| 06:18.20 | simonrvn | depends on the cpu more than the hdd... |
| 06:18.56 | simonrvn | Stormy: go to the install modules section and request more of them |
| 06:19.13 | Stormy | install modules section where? |
| 06:19.15 | simonrvn | stoned: i'm really liking this. it's really trippy |
| 06:19.19 | Stormy | i mean kernel modules |
| 06:19.24 | Stormy | not software modules |
| 06:19.37 | simonrvn | yeh, some of them are kernel modules |
| 06:19.41 | Stormy | like i2o_core i2o_proc i2o_block |
| 06:19.45 | Stormy | which aren't listen |
| 06:19.47 | Stormy | listed |
| 06:19.51 | Stormy | and aren't on the cd |
| 06:19.59 | Stormy | but are in the default kernel once it's installed |
| 06:20.01 | freedgnu | tried the latest Etch d-i iso, no go ....unable to detect the HDD |
| 06:20.05 | simonrvn | oh, those, no i don;t think they're there as modules if they're there at all. |
| 06:20.13 | Stormy | i tried to use insmod from an install on another hard drive |
| 06:20.20 | simonrvn | that won't work |
| 06:20.26 | rshakin | hey i am trying to get dvd burning to work on my machine and it's not working at all... is there a faq or something like that besides whats listed on google |
| 06:20.28 | simonrvn | ..as you saw :) |
| 06:20.32 | Stormy | i could get them to load, partition but initrd screamed and broke the install |
| 06:20.51 | Stormy | so how do i add them in? |
| 06:20.56 | simonrvn | you were lucky |
| 06:20.57 | freedgnu | rshakin: are you using growisofs to burn the image? |
| 06:20.57 | Stormy | can i make a driver disk or something? |
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| 06:21.21 | freedgnu | rshakin: do that instead of using cdrecord. |
| 06:21.23 | simonrvn | yeh, check out the install guide |
| 06:21.28 | Stormy | kk |
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| 06:22.00 | rshakin | well, it's a dvd-rw drive but i am just trying to make it burn cds for now... |
| 06:22.06 | simonrvn | freedgnu: did you use the 2.6 kernel? oh, etch, it's probably default ... |
| 06:22.42 | simonrvn | well if it can't burn cds it won't. |
| 06:22.53 | freedgnu | simonrvn: on a compiled 2.6.x kernel, everything works |
| 06:23.09 | simonrvn | compiled, you mean one you built? |
| 06:23.27 | freedgnu | simonrvn: but I want to boot and fdisk the sata HDD |
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| 06:23.46 | rshakin | freedgnu. i am trying to make this work on a sparc too |
| 06:23.47 | freedgnu | simonrvn: yep, the one I built |
| 06:23.52 | Stormy | i'm not seeing anything about making a driver disk in the manual |
| 06:23.57 | tuv | how can i make the ondemand cpufreq kernel module have ignore_nice = 1 instead of the default 0 every time it's loaded? changing it at boot is not enough as unplugging/plugging the power causes the ondemand module to get reloaded |
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| 06:24.35 | KrOnOss | Hi, i just installed Debian on my box, i got 2 nic's on it, one of them is a 8139 (the one that is working eth0) and the other 8169 the one that is not working (no eth assignment), how can i make it work ? |
| 06:24.36 | ice_1963 | try dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord |
| 06:24.38 | simonrvn | set it in /etc/modprobe.d somewhere |
| 06:24.43 | simonrvn | tuv: ^^ |
| 06:25.01 | freedgnu | rshakin: use cdrecord or better still try using k3b as a gui front-end |
| 06:25.10 | Stormy | tuv maybe a cron script that checks if it's time to set that variable that runs every minute |
| 06:25.15 | simonrvn | which uses cdrecord as backend |
| 06:25.24 | freedgnu | rshakin: apt-get install k3b |
| 06:25.34 | rshakin | freedgnu. this box has no monitor it's all console |
| 06:25.41 | tuv | simonrvn, i couldn't find any documentation about ondemand options. is ignore_nice a valid module option? |
| 06:25.53 | Stormy | simonrvn i'm not seeing how to make a driver disk in the manual |
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| 06:26.10 | rshakin | freedgnu. so yeah cdrecord is pretty mych the only option except the webmin interface module for cdrecord |
| 06:26.24 | tuv | Stormy, i'd like a cleaner solution. this check will run too many times more than needed |
| 06:26.39 | rshakin | freedgnu. i am just trying to make cdrecord work and stuff so far i am not getting anywhere |
| 06:26.44 | simonrvn | you can set options in the aliases file |
| 06:27.12 | simonrvn | Stormy: i'm pretty sure it is there |
| 06:27.52 | ice_1963 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.55 | Stormy | i'm looking all over i'm seeing nothing |
| 06:28.42 | simonrvn | ok, it's in another doc then. too tired to remember where now, unfortunately. i'd start at the web site |
| 06:28.53 | simonrvn | (www.debian.org) |
| 06:28.54 | Stormy | i'm already there |
| 06:28.57 | Stormy | been there |
| 06:29.00 | Stormy | that's why i'm here |
| 06:29.07 | waiting | ^^ |
| 06:29.14 | Stormy | i'll try irc.gnu.org or whatever the other network is |
| 06:29.22 | simonrvn | i remember seeing it |
| 06:29.30 | simonrvn | irc.oftc.net |
| 06:29.34 | waiting | Stormy: that sounds like a threat ;D |
| 06:29.39 | waiting | too late ^^ |
| 06:29.41 | rshakin | ice_1963. i did that already... it looks like the ide-scsi module is not working or not installed by my default kernel.. btw this is a sparc box... so it differs from i386 |
| 06:29.41 | simonrvn | bah, who cares |
| 06:29.48 | simonrvn | impatience... |
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| 06:30.08 | simonrvn | rshakin: you using 2.4? |
| 06:30.12 | waiting | indeed. while it was such an interesting problem ^^ |
| 06:30.21 | ice_1963 | rshakin:ok |
| 06:30.52 | tuv | this is the first time ever i find this channel with this few number of people |
| 06:31.13 | rshakin | simonrvn; 2.6 from backport |
| 06:31.15 | simonrvn | musta had a netsplit. there was something earlier |
| 06:31.22 | simonrvn | don't use ide-scsi then |
| 06:31.51 | rshakin | simonrvn; what do you suggest ? |
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| 06:31.54 | tuv | any docs. on ondemand kernel module options, if any? |
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| 06:32.19 | simonrvn | <kernel source>/Documentation for starters |
| 06:32.48 | rshakin | downloading the sources as we speak |
| 06:33.04 | tuv | simonrvn, i remember i had a look there.. found nothing |
| 06:33.08 | simonrvn | sorry, not you rshakin |
| 06:33.25 | simonrvn | i should go to sleep... |
| 06:33.40 | simonrvn | i'm barely coherent... |
| 06:33.47 | tuv | or address people you're talking to ;) |
| 06:33.52 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 06:35.09 | unstable | Is dual head a pain in the ass to setup?(ie if I want ONE application to only appear on a certain output[MythTV]); Or is it easy to setup? |
| 06:35.14 | jstevens | Ahh! Good ole xvidtune shows your current refresh rates! |
| 06:37.22 | liable | tuv: what do you need to know about it? |
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| 06:38.36 | jimmy__ | hi could a chmod g+rw /*/ dangerous to a system? |
| 06:38.46 | tuv | liable, i need to have ignore_nice set to 1 every time the ondemand module is loaded. it's sometimes reloaded while the machine is running so on-boot setup isn't sufficient |
| 06:38.58 | jimmy__ | i entered it accidently |
| 06:39.39 | liable | tuv: module paramaters in /etc/modprobe.d/? |
| 06:40.03 | tuv | liable, well is ignore_nice a valid module option for ondemand? |
| 06:40.11 | liable | tuv: nfc |
| 06:40.34 | tuv | liable, that was my questioin: where can i find any docs about the ondemand module options? |
| 06:40.44 | tuv | if any |
| 06:40.53 | unstable | I had a good link with hard disk drive; comparing cost per gig; And they had ALL the good deals out there right now; I think it was some hardware site; You could compare all the good deals and see what the best cost per gig was. |
| 06:40.57 | unstable | Anyone have a link like that? |
| 06:41.19 | liable | tuv: modinfo ondemand? |
| 06:42.50 | tuv | liable, nothing there |
| 06:42.59 | tuv | liable, does that mean: no |
| 06:43.05 | tuv | ?? |
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| 06:44.41 | liable | tuv: dunno |
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| 06:47.50 | stoned | simonrvn, thanks |
| 06:47.57 | stoned | simonrvn, did you listen to it all?! wow |
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| 06:50.32 | bilss_ | hi |
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| 06:53.02 | waiting | stoned: my neighbours are rockers. they think it rocks. |
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| 06:56.18 | stoned | fuckin a, dude |
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| 07:02.07 | cougar` | Hello everyone |
| 07:02.13 | AfterDeath | hi cougar` |
| 07:02.19 | cougar` | What would be a good way to stop resolv.conf from updated |
| 07:02.27 | cougar` | I was on this channel but disconnected, never rejoined |
| 07:02.31 | cougar` | Hey there AfterDeath |
| 07:02.37 | jimmy__ | cougar`: chmod a-w ;) |
| 07:02.40 | cougar` | hehe, AfterDeath, what a nice nickname :P |
| 07:02.58 | cougar` | what that gonna do jimmy? |
| 07:03.16 | jimmy__ | wont allow anybody/process to edit the resolv.conf |
| 07:03.16 | cougar` | There should be a way in dhclient.conf |
| 07:03.18 | cougar` | lemme go play |
| 07:03.19 | dondelelcaro | cougar`: your best bet is to use resolvconf, and specify some nameservers first so it can be updated |
| 07:03.21 | AfterDeath | cougar`: it denies *everyone* write permissions to resolve.conf |
| 07:03.35 | jimmy__ | no kidding it aint the nicest way |
| 07:03.37 | jetscreamer | it's better than afterbirth |
| 07:03.44 | cougar` | AfterDeath: Ahh okay. Wow. |
| 07:03.46 | jimmy__ | i would just say just dont use dhcp ? |
| 07:03.53 | cougar` | dondelelcaro: resolvconf is a package? |
| 07:04.00 | AfterDeath | hahaha jetscreamer |
| 07:04.01 | jimmy__ | edit your etc/networking/interfaces file manually |
| 07:04.03 | dondelelcaro | cougar`: yes. |
| 07:04.14 | cougar` | I use DHCP for IP distribution for new clients to my network, like my friend's laptop :P |
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| 07:04.37 | dondelelcaro | cougar`: using it, you can then have a set of nameservers which are used first, then use nameservers provided by dhcp secondarily. |
| 07:04.43 | Luke-Jr | Avoid Samba 3.0.14a-Debian |
| 07:05.02 | Luke-Jr | it leaks UDP rx_queue (whatever that is) |
| 07:05.04 | cougar` | I wish there was a way to keep live updating of resolv.conf just append specified name servers to it :P |
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| 07:05.23 | Luke-Jr | cougar`: you mean prepend? |
| 07:06.19 | cougar` | Luke-Jr: perhaps, right now I gotta see what method that was suggested I want to use |
| 07:06.27 | cougar` | I can tell people have had this problem before :P |
| 07:06.31 | jimmy__ | is it really necc. to use more than 2 dns ? |
| 07:06.38 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 07:06.42 | Luke-Jr | you only need 1 |
| 07:06.44 | cougar` | Jimmy, I am going to try opendns |
| 07:06.48 | cougar` | opendns.com |
| 07:06.51 | Luke-Jr | if that 1 works, you never need another |
| 07:07.18 | Tallu | I used the dpkg-bot sarge 2.6.16 kernel upgrade but now it seems i was left without kernel headers, and i cant seem to locate them on backports either |
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| 07:08.53 | simonrvn | stoned: yeh i did |
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| 07:10.27 | jetscreamer | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i have sonny and cher playing in my mind over&over!!!!!!!!111 heeeeeeeeelp! |
| 07:10.54 | simonrvn | @comfort jetscreamer |
| 07:10.56 | unstable | What is a simple / quick program...to take a 1 hour xvid/mp3 movie; And only save the fist 20 minutes; and throw out the rest? And not have audio/video by offsynced. |
| 07:10.57 | ravenbird | There, there, jetscreamer. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:11.00 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: I proscribe craniectomy |
| 07:11.20 | dondelelcaro | cougar`: best to keep it in channel, as I'll wander off from time to time |
| 07:11.25 | cougar` | Okay |
| 07:11.25 | jetscreamer | mplayer should do it. but avidemux2 is a good cutter |
| 07:11.42 | jetscreamer | avidemux2 is on marillat iirc |
| 07:11.45 | cougar` | dondelelcaro: Would you mind helpin' me set this up? Like, I'm going to try to use 2 DNS instead of using the 2 ISP DNS ... Will resolvconf make this easy on me? |
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| 07:12.15 | jetscreamer | gyp-sies, tramps and thieves... OMFG AHHHH |
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| 07:12.50 | mha13 | how do i find in wich packge is libstdc++.so.5 |
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| 07:12.56 | jetscreamer | apt-file |
| 07:13.14 | jetscreamer | !tell mhal3 -about apt-file |
| 07:13.21 | jetscreamer | err |
| 07:13.26 | jetscreamer | !tell mha13 -about apt-file |
| 07:14.04 | mha13 | jetscreamer:10x dood |
| 07:14.15 | jetscreamer | 12y back atcha |
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| 07:16.10 | mha13 | jetscreamer: im getting no output when i run apt-file search libstdc++.so.5 |
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| 07:16.42 | jetscreamer | did you do apt-file update first, but also you could try libstdc++ |
| 07:16.44 | jetscreamer | or so |
| 07:18.16 | jetscreamer | i didn't get anything either btw |
| 07:18.24 | mha13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.13 | jetscreamer | !tell mha13 -about pdo |
| 07:19.17 | jetscreamer | there's always that |
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| 07:20.13 | jetscreamer | ah i got a lot after i did apt-file update |
| 07:20.17 | jetscreamer | nothing till i did |
| 07:21.06 | mha13 | jetscreamer: the issue is that it don't do a bit when i run apt-file update (it is just waiting or something ...) |
| 07:21.25 | jetscreamer | yeah it takes a little bit |
| 07:21.40 | jetscreamer | took me 1 or 2 minutes just now |
| 07:21.54 | jetscreamer | as root eh, or w/sudo |
| 07:22.22 | mha13 | jetscreamer:by the way why alien don't show me dependencis errors ? |
| 07:22.40 | jetscreamer | i've only used alien once, no idea |
| 07:22.51 | mha13 | jetscreamer: i did it under root. |
| 07:23.10 | jetscreamer | !info libstdc++5 |
| 07:23.15 | mha13 | jetscreamer:so how do you use rpm pacages ? |
| 07:23.16 | dpkg | libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-13 (sid), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
| 07:23.30 | jetscreamer | mha13: i usually don't need to. |
| 07:24.08 | mha13 | jetscreamer:nice , im stuck with x3330 printer and im unable to use it couse of drivers .. |
| 07:24.30 | jetscreamer | i have a lexmark 611z same problem |
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| 07:24.42 | jetscreamer | my hp works but i'm too lazy/cheap to buy ink |
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| 07:25.12 | mha13 | jetscreamer:did you try z600 driver ? |
| 07:25.20 | jetscreamer | not very hard |
| 07:25.39 | jetscreamer | i found some source on lexmark.com but didn't try much |
| 07:26.11 | jetscreamer | i have a winbox next to me i turn on once a week to print |
| 07:26.13 | mha13 | jetscreamer:the ldk ? |
| 07:26.24 | unix_infidel | someone should invent their own own printer in india. and make the cartridge refillable. |
| 07:26.47 | jetscreamer | mha13: i 'think' it wasn't the ldk but jsut a tarball, which may have come from the ldk |
| 07:26.51 | unix_infidel | laser of course. Somehow they'd have to mass produce the raw toner. |
| 07:27.15 | unix_infidel | something like the laptop for 100 dollars project, but for the middle class of america :P |
| 07:27.19 | jetscreamer | mha13: this was like 2 months ago or more |
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| 07:27.41 | mha13 | jetscreamer: im seraching for tarball now.. |
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| 07:27.57 | jetscreamer | mha13: that is a lexmark printer? i didn't know |
| 07:28.21 | mha13 | jetscreamer: yep .. |
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| 07:29.23 | mha13 | jetscreamer: bummer why didn't i buy hp .. (ectualy becouse their coustumer service) |
| 07:29.39 | jetscreamer | linux.hp.org |
| 07:29.46 | jetscreamer | probably lexmark is cheaper |
| 07:30.01 | jetscreamer | hell this printer was less than a refill for my hp |
| 07:30.09 | jetscreamer | and it came w/ink |
| 07:30.33 | jetscreamer | so i bought 2 |
| 07:31.02 | mha13 | jetscreamer:no , when i say custumer service i mean to repair |
| 07:31.06 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 07:31.24 | ttru | how can i reload the sound server? |
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| 07:31.55 | jetscreamer | /etc/init/d/something restart, maybe |
| 07:32.08 | jetscreamer | err |
| 07:32.16 | CalvadoS | hello, is there any package to manipulate image (resize) on console at debian pckgs ? |
| 07:32.16 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/ rather |
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| 07:32.22 | mha13 | jetscreamer:alsa or oss ? |
| 07:32.36 | mha13 | ttru:alsa or oss ? |
| 07:33.06 | jetscreamer | you mean something like gimp but for console? |
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| 07:33.15 | jetscreamer | that wil resize an image |
| 07:33.39 | CalvadoS | well yes |
| 07:33.56 | CalvadoS | i will use like ./program newheight=100 newweight=100 myimage.jpg |
| 07:33.59 | CalvadoS | something like that :) |
| 07:34.24 | mha13 | CalvadoS:did you try convert ? |
| 07:34.59 | CalvadoS | hmm well i have no clue what is it but it installed at my system let me have a look its manual ty |
| 07:35.24 | ttru | mha13: not sure |
| 07:35.29 | CalvadoS | i guess it can put watermark too |
| 07:35.30 | ttru | mha13: alsa |
| 07:35.39 | ttru | mha13: the sound stopped |
| 07:36.32 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/alsa restart maybe, not sure |
| 07:37.02 | mha13 | CalvadoS:also take this little script : http://netfactory.dk/technology/perl/graphics/ |
| 07:37.32 | ttru | mha13: the sound stopped, was working 2 mins ago |
| 07:37.32 | mha13 | ttru: debian:/etc/init.d# ./alsa reload |
| 07:38.02 | ttru | bash: /etc/init.d#: No such file or directory |
| 07:38.07 | mha13 | ttru: test the dsp device |
| 07:38.52 | mha13 | ttru:strange .. mybe as root ? |
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| 07:39.08 | jetscreamer | not # |
| 07:39.16 | jetscreamer | / |
| 07:39.25 | jetscreamer | err |
| 07:39.33 | jetscreamer | is that some weird thing i don't know? |
| 07:39.51 | mha13 | jetscreamer: oops didn't saw .. |
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| 07:45.26 | igorok | I greet all. I have one question. I have installed the kernel of Debian destribution from image CD1. But I can't configure it because my keyboard dosn't work proper. |
| 07:46.01 | igorok | I get sometimes the message unknow scancode e0 59 |
| 07:46.18 | Si_tech | I can see /dev/dsp is present and I have permissions right but all my music players come up with the same error "/dev/dsp not found". Can anyone help. I have udev. |
| 07:46.38 | jetscreamer | dsp is oss, alsa is the debian default |
| 07:47.08 | jetscreamer | try to modprobe the alsa-oss-wrapper module maybe |
| 07:47.29 | Si_tech | I can run alsaconf everytime I log in and get it to work but that sux |
| 07:47.42 | jetscreamer | !modconf |
| 07:47.43 | dpkg | i guess modconf is a tool to configure/add/delete kernel modules |
| 07:47.53 | AfterDeath | hmm |
| 07:48.18 | igorok | And I have the Microsoft Wireless Desktop Elite Keypoard with german layout. |
| 07:48.47 | AfterDeath | what kind of bot is dpkg? |
| 07:48.52 | jetscreamer | blootbot |
| 07:49.02 | AfterDeath | he |
| 07:49.04 | AfterDeath | *heh |
| 07:49.14 | mha13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.18 | AfterDeath | is he like supybot? |
| 07:49.20 | jetscreamer | igorok: you probably need to run dpkg-reconfigure console-data , but i don't know how to tell you to run it w/o a kb |
| 07:49.31 | jetscreamer | supybots are more maintained |
| 07:49.48 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 07:49.48 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 07:49.54 | ttru | how can i close alsa sound device? |
| 07:50.06 | mha13 | is their a way to configure microsoft keyboard om ;linux |
| 07:50.17 | mha13 | ttru: to unload it ? |
| 07:50.25 | AfterDeath | 'more maintained' ? |
| 07:50.29 | ttru | says cant play soiund, device is busy! fix? |
| 07:50.40 | ttru | mha13: yea |
| 07:50.43 | jetscreamer | igorok: maybe #debian-de might be more help |
| 07:50.44 | Si_tech | thankyou mha13 I will give it a try |
| 07:50.45 | ttru | mha13: ys cant play soiund, device is busy! fix? |
| 07:51.11 | igorok | jetscreamer: ok thank you i try it |
| 07:51.13 | jetscreamer | !de |
| 07:51.14 | dpkg | i heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 07:51.21 | jetscreamer | .de not -de sorry |
| 07:51.29 | mha13 | ttru:i don't remmber how to test how is using it (im searching now) but you need to kill what use it . |
| 07:51.36 | mha13 | sorry for the spelling |
| 07:51.42 | jetscreamer | lsof |
| 07:51.44 | Si_tech | ttru try "fuser -k -v /dev/dsp" |
| 07:51.47 | ttru | mha13: how do i kill that? |
| 07:52.19 | tonsofpcs | hmmm, what package do I need to install to get nslookup? |
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| 07:52.21 | Si_tech | ttru you can kill with the fuser command "man fuser" |
| 07:52.24 | ttru | Si_tech: ok, wjhat next? |
| 07:52.43 | Si_tech | ttru what is using it? |
| 07:52.46 | ttru | Si_tech: ok, what next? its killed. how do i load sound salsa? |
| 07:52.53 | ttru | Si_tech: didnt say |
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| 07:53.11 | master_medic | hey |
| 07:53.16 | Si_tech | ttru alsaconf |
| 07:53.30 | master_medic | how do i get macro media flash player 7 on my debian box with firefox so that i can look at macromedia flash 7 applets? |
| 07:53.55 | ttru | Si_tech: no need, sound is back |
| 07:54.01 | mha13 | ttru: run the /etc/init.d/alsa reload |
| 07:54.30 | ttru | mha13: no need, sound is back! fuser -k -v /dev/dsp fixed it |
| 07:54.39 | mha13 | Si_tech:alsaconf is bas idea (he can change stuff by that) |
| 07:54.42 | tonsofpcs | hmmm, I installed the debian package for colinux, running it, I can't get ping to resolve domain names.... any clue how? |
| 07:56.06 | mha13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.56 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 07:57.24 | peterS | mha13: uh, what did I miss? why are you talking about rpm? |
| 07:57.45 | mha13 | peterS:hello .. |
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| 07:58.23 | mha13 | peterS:i'm try to use x3330 (lexmark printer) to use i need a driver that is in rpm form |
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| 07:59.03 | peterS | mha13: two best bets are to convert to .deb form using 'alien', and install it that way, or to simply unpack it and find the file you need and stuff it into the right place manually |
| 07:59.08 | mha13 | peterS:when i do alien -i .. it don't say any errors but the pacage don't work so i try rpm -i |
| 07:59.38 | Gokee2_Laptop | "Booting the installation system directly from a hard disk is another option for many architectures. This will require some other operating system to load the installer onto the hard disk." <-- from the install manual... Is there any more information on how to do this somewhere? |
| 07:59.39 | mha13 | peterS:it says miising files (dependencies) |
| 07:59.40 | peterS | alien isn't smart enough to account for differences in how cups files are installed on different OSes, so it may be that you have to figure it out manually and copy the files around manually |
| 07:59.43 | tonsofpcs | nm, got it |
| 08:00.03 | mha13 | peterS:how do i unpack an rpm ? |
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| 08:00.28 | peterS | mha13: I'd use rpm2cpio and then unpack the cpio file with ... I forget, cpio -i or something |
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| 08:03.08 | mha13 | peterS:when i run it it printed my the content of the rpm .. |
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| 08:03.15 | mha13 | and the stuck the terminal |
| 08:03.15 | Andaluz | hi peeps |
| 08:03.34 | Andaluz | question - if i were to install the base system from a debian minimal cd, would I be able to ssh into the box to do the rest? |
| 08:04.00 | unstable | Andaluz: If you apt-get install ssh; after you're done installing the base system. |
| 08:04.07 | Andaluz | cool |
| 08:04.09 | Andaluz | thanks =) |
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| 08:04.13 | peterS | mha13: figure out how to use cpio, then, I guess |
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| 08:04.23 | clintsnet | hey guys, I'm making my way back to the debian world, I did get VMware Workstation 5.0 up and running on ubuntu, breezy, then tested ubuntu's latest dapper, with VMware Workstation 5.5, I still didn't get my wireless how I wanted, etc.. the reasons why I had chose ubuntu for the while, was because of its hardware detection.. how easy would it to get support for my AMD AThlon XP 2000+ , with a nvida agp, and Acer Aspire 3610 wi |
| 08:04.23 | clintsnet | supported |
| 08:05.05 | clintsnet | also. I"m tired of always editing services in ubuntu, and run levels, just to make it fast. and I want to either do a ReiserFS with debian install or xfs, that should go right correct? |
| 08:05.05 | cast | aspire 3610 wi...then you got cut off |
| 08:05.21 | cast | [maybe load the splitlines.pl script if you're using irssi] |
| 08:05.27 | clintsnet | hey cast |
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| 08:06.24 | clintsnet | i'm going to College for Systems Engineering, Networks, Software Programming etc.. I believe I should stick to debian ,especially since they are not constaly updating the distro, etc and I want to design my own and custom how I want, and I did like that about debian , just takes the patience, and 1 thing I found, the network speed right off the bat for lan , is amazing |
| 08:06.39 | cast | the cpu will go fine, just use the k7 kernel-image, and the video is also fine, just grab nvidia.com drivers |
| 08:07.10 | clintsnet | also I was reading how Etch should be out in December, thats cool, however could I do a debian install, I do have the binary cd, and then just change the repositories, to the testing/unstable, |
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| 08:07.13 | _ThOmAs | hey |
| 08:07.15 | _ThOmAs | anybody around? |
| 08:07.33 | cast | you could, but why not just grab the debian testing netinst cd? |
| 08:07.39 | unstable | clintsnet: You can just do an etch install now. Download the etch net install disc. |
| 08:07.40 | unstable | !tell clintsnet about d-i |
| 08:07.44 | _ThOmAs | erm |
| 08:07.46 | clintsnet | oh coo cast, can I partner up with you, on levels of my own and wht I want to program with my books I have been reading and intelligence on things. .I want to program Linux A.I. and i Know I will do it |
| 08:07.50 | _ThOmAs | i want my apache thingy |
| 08:07.54 | clintsnet | i can? |
| 08:07.57 | unstable | clintsnet: yes |
| 08:07.58 | _ThOmAs | to make it so ppl have there own httpd folder |
| 08:08.00 | _ThOmAs | like |
| 08:08.02 | clintsnet | way awesome |
| 08:08.07 | _ThOmAs | http://10.0.0.3/~tom/index.html |
| 08:08.08 | _ThOmAs | etc |
| 08:08.10 | _ThOmAs | what documentroot |
| 08:08.10 | clintsnet | I just had a birthday.. tell me ya playin |
| 08:08.14 | _ThOmAs | i put in httpd.conf? |
| 08:08.20 | clintsnet | :) |
| 08:08.25 | unstable | _ThOmAs: /join #apache |
| 08:08.46 | unstable | !tell _ThOmAs about apache faq |
| 08:08.50 | cast | _ThOmAs: ahh you need to enable a module |
| 08:08.53 | unstable | _ThOmAs: or I believe that information is in the apache faq |
| 08:09.19 | _ThOmAs | mk |
| 08:09.19 | _ThOmAs | ta |
| 08:10.09 | _ThOmAs | i cant see it |
| 08:10.20 | clintsnet | hey thanks alot. that would be awesome, and so for like my nvida GeForce FX 5200, I know its old but I got it back in 2004 and paid some money for it at the time, and my Acer Aspire 3610, maybe you could help with a few things cast, if you don't mind |
| 08:10.44 | cast | clintsnet: sure, never used/seen a acer aspire 3610 though |
| 08:11.01 | _ThOmAs | cast any idea what module it is? |
| 08:11.07 | clintsnet | I work with alot of support for Windows users. and maintaining systems, and even testing with Vista, and reason for me running it in VMware for linux, hee that was a great accomplishment for me, like noone at my college, or instructors has done that yet on linux, sot hat was cool for me |
| 08:11.40 | cast | _ThOmAs: etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load, there's a executable to load it...umm forgot what it's called |
| 08:11.54 | clintsnet | and also, as I study more with programming, I want to take windows software, and reverse engineer it and write it for linux. even though I know wine , etc.. and I can use vmware, however, I like my Project 5, MixVibes, and Adobe software :) |
| 08:12.05 | _ThOmAs | mk |
| 08:12.05 | _ThOmAs | ta |
| 08:12.11 | cast | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.13 | _ThOmAs | its not apache 2 |
| 08:12.15 | clintsnet | and not to mention.. Adobe Macromedia Studio 8, and all there nice stuff for my web developing and business I will be setting up for |
| 08:14.05 | clintsnet | I do have a dvd burner, so I wouldn't mind downloading the dvd image.. is it just 1? and I should of bought magazine at barnes and nobles, had like the latest release of debian, but I think it was just the debian 3.1 rc2 |
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| 08:14.38 | clintsnet | I"m so into technology , and IT its not even funny cast.. what you recommend hee.. |
| 08:14.39 | cast | _ThOmAs: oh, can't help you then. haven't used apache1 for years, |
| 08:14.53 | cast | clintsnet: any reason to use etch over woody? |
| 08:15.05 | clintsnet | I tried the whole gentoo thing, but its a punk for my hardware, and didn't even load proper video or sound modules for my workstation or acer :( |
| 08:15.38 | cast | clintsnet: they say XFS is good for filesystems with big files, and reiserfs for small files, so i went with reiser [you could use reiser4 if you were feeling like it,too] |
| 08:15.43 | clintsnet | I also plan to give it, either ReiserFS or Xfs :) |
| 08:16.02 | clintsnet | oh hee, yep was messing did that with linspire 5 for someone hee... they was happy |
| 08:16.10 | clintsnet | but I don't like that proprietary goof system :P |
| 08:16.22 | clintsnet | too much limitation without manual hacking :) |
| 08:16.34 | clintsnet | freespire is pretty much the alternative for being open to that mugg |
| 08:16.44 | cast | do you have a network card? |
| 08:16.47 | clintsnet | yep |
| 08:17.04 | cast | ahh good. |
| 08:17.05 | clintsnet | heck.. I Made CAtalog and Commercial for my College as Network Engineer lmao |
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| 08:17.39 | cast | just looked up the 3610 specs on this site and it only listed a shitty controllerless modem :\ |
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| 08:17.53 | clintsnet | I actually on a commercial, and want to have like 1 of the best linux systems around, that isn't super hard like gentoo and slackware hee, but I still think I did good from going from Xandros to Fedora, to debian, then ubuntu , and now not giving up :) |
| 08:18.20 | clintsnet | yeah, I"m about to order a different mini pci wireless lan, and replace the 1 in the acer, hee :-) or go pmcia style :) |
| 08:18.37 | clintsnet | I"m willing to concentrate on my workstation for now though hee, |
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| 08:18.52 | clintsnet | nvidia and all, and total power :) |
| 08:18.55 | freezombie | what's all this 'hee' about clintsnet ? |
| 08:19.10 | clintsnet | sorry, just my way of being excited |
| 08:19.20 | freezombie | hehe |
| 08:19.30 | clintsnet | --> http://www.myspace.com/clintsnet |
| 08:19.35 | clintsnet | you can see some of my accomplishments |
| 08:19.39 | cast | no dude. NO |
| 08:19.46 | clintsnet | I know thats really nothing, is why I got.. Adobe Macromedia STudio 8 |
| 08:19.51 | cast | you can't use myspace *and* debian, it's not right |
| 08:19.52 | clintsnet | o>O |
| 08:20.02 | clintsnet | I"M working on my own IT site loll.. sorry |
| 08:20.07 | freezombie | hrmpf. flash. |
| 08:20.22 | clintsnet | that was just some temporary junk I did.. because my best friend uses that, and I said I wouldn't but did it to make him feel not alone.. cough |
| 08:20.33 | freezombie | or java.... I only know it's a proprietary plugin... |
| 08:20.52 | freezombie | or some I don't have installed ;) |
| 08:21.01 | clintsnet | well freezombie.. I help maintain commercial software and open source software ,and Operating Systems alike |
| 08:21.11 | clintsnet | I"m actually going hack windows Vista, in vmware , on debian, once I get it set up :) |
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| 08:21.31 | freezombie | clintsnet: whatever you want... |
| 08:21.34 | clintsnet | they think they need 512 or 1 gb of ram for the system, hehe wait til I get done with it :) |
| 08:21.48 | clintsnet | its so fun being open minded :D |
| 08:22.06 | clintsnet | people like.. dang.. whats Cedega, you playin Counter STrike Source on linux ? o_O |
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| 08:22.13 | clintsnet | and I"m like yep :D |
| 08:22.19 | freezombie | have you been drinking or is this all excitement ? |
| 08:22.47 | clintsnet | +sorry excitement that I can test etch, and help you guys are giving. cast* and ice tea with too much sugar :) |
| 08:23.21 | Pons | sugar makes you relaxed and sleepy .. :/ |
| 08:23.23 | clintsnet | what do you think would be great for my AMD AThlon XP 2000+, 512 mb ddr ram, nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 ddr |
| 08:23.43 | Pons | clintsnet, what mobo |
| 08:23.44 | jetscreamer | 512 more mem and a 6600 |
| 08:23.45 | clintsnet | I'm tired of hacking ubuntu |
| 08:23.45 | freezombie | heh. Carbon hydrate induced euphoria. (just constructed that term) |
| 08:23.49 | clintsnet | hee |
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| 08:24.05 | clintsnet | there getting on my nevers with all there dam services at start :) |
| 08:24.07 | freezombie | hacking as in,,, ? |
| 08:24.22 | jetscreamer | as in fixing |
| 08:24.22 | clintsnet | welll.. stripping all the services out.. changing run levels,.. modifying the file system |
| 08:24.25 | cast | freezombie: trying to remove bloat ia believe |
| 08:24.31 | clintsnet | changing configuration files etc |
| 08:24.38 | freezombie | a-ha |
| 08:24.56 | clintsnet | hacking is not always considered as network etc.. it can also be with modifying or reverse engineering something.. its how you look at it |
| 08:25.07 | clintsnet | and you have ethical hacking as well :) |
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| 08:25.43 | clintsnet | Pons.. MachSpeed, I'll get you the specs |
| 08:25.59 | Pons | what chipset .. |
| 08:26.01 | freezombie | clintsnet: I was thinking more along the lines of modifying or creating software.... and I was slightly puzzled about the Vista bit and how ubuntu differs that much |
| 08:26.15 | netman1 | Hi All. Need to build a company ssh portal. For a minimalistic aproach, what is better to start with: debian-installer or debootstrap? |
| 08:27.10 | freezombie | debootstrap should make it more minimalistic, but d-i doesn't bloat. |
| 08:27.29 | cast | netman1: debootstrap is my bet, doesn't even install a kernel :> |
| 08:28.21 | netman1 | freezombie: as a guideline I think the number of packages is a fair measurement. What number will both install? |
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| 08:28.38 | cast | lol @ obscure information |
| 08:28.51 | netman1 | cast: why? |
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| 08:29.43 | freezombie | netman1: I have no idea. d-i, to my knowledge, installs everything you need to boot plus a few tools you'd expect to have.and a mail server ;) |
| 08:30.16 | freezombie | debootstrap only installs the most essectial tools and no kernel I think |
| 08:30.50 | freezombie | d-i would be the simpler approach... |
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| 08:31.19 | netman1 | freezombie, cast: thanks for the info. |
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| 08:32.10 | cast | netman1: what does one mean by ssh portal anyway? |
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| 08:33.17 | netman1 | cast: a server whose only purpose is to authenticate people for the network with (if possible) ssh installed as the only application. |
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| 08:33.49 | cast | ahh. |
| 08:33.54 | stoffell | morning |
| 08:34.07 | netman1 | stoffel: morning |
| 08:35.25 | stoffell | i'm having an issue with 1 debian server randomly locking up, the machine is remote so I can't verify it's a kernel panic, but nothing can be found in the logs.. any tips on troubleshooting this? |
| 08:35.56 | netman1 | stoffel: no possibility of a remote console or syslog server? |
| 08:36.40 | stoffell | netman1: I'm working on making remote console possible. maybe syslog is the way to go? (there's a 2nd server on the same lan there) |
| 08:36.54 | _ThOmAs | where woudl mod_userdir |
| 08:36.55 | _ThOmAs | be located |
| 08:36.56 | _ThOmAs | for apache |
| 08:37.16 | stoffell | _ThOmAs: on my system it says: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_userdir.so |
| 08:38.01 | _ThOmAs | ta |
| 08:38.15 | netman1 | stoffel: remote console would be the way to go, question is wether the malfunctioning server is able to get the syslog messeages of the presumed kernel panic out of the door (over the) before it freezes. Doubt it, but don't have experience with it. |
| 08:38.35 | netman1 | s/over the/over the net/ |
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| 08:39.03 | stoffell | netman1: oh, okay, i get it.. would remote serial console also be sufficient? (guess not ?) |
| 08:39.10 | _ThOmAs | where i enable/disable modules again |
| 08:39.32 | stoffell | netman1: hm, or maybe in the bios enabling that... okay.. gotta try something like that then.. |
| 08:39.37 | netman1 | stoffel: hardwired console would be best (for bios). |
| 08:40.04 | stoffell | _ThOmAs: a2enmod or a2dismod |
| 08:40.06 | _ThOmAs | LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so |
| 08:40.10 | _ThOmAs | already loaded |
| 08:40.13 | _ThOmAs | but how i use it |
| 08:40.14 | _ThOmAs | will enable it |
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| 08:40.20 | netman1 | stoffel: not to promote a manufacturer, but have good experience with "integrated lights-out". |
| 08:40.45 | stoffell | netman1: yeah :) me too.. but in some cases I have some supermicro's remotely, brrr.. prefer iLO also :) |
| 08:43.11 | _ThOmAs | ?? |
| 08:44.40 | netman1 | _ThOmAs: look in /etc/apache2 's subdirs. |
| 08:45.27 | Bl4d3fire | hey, what is the command to view the specs of your hdd? |
| 08:45.58 | centrx | you mean like how big it is and how much of it is used? |
| 08:46.12 | centrx | or do you mean its access and RPM speed, etcc? |
| 08:46.29 | liable | hdparm? |
| 08:47.04 | Bl4d3fire | how big |
| 08:47.23 | stoffell | netman1: I have munin running on that node, here's a graph of the memory usage, seems strange to me: http://www.stoffell.be/files/ |
| 08:47.39 | stoffell | netman1: oops, direct link: http://www.stoffell.be/files/memory-day.png |
| 08:47.58 | jair | hello guys, |
| 08:48.09 | Bl4d3fire | hey |
| 08:48.19 | Bl4d3fire | yeah, how big and how much used |
| 08:48.27 | jair | I winder if to install vmware free in debian I need specific files installed on my debian server? |
| 08:48.43 | stoffell | Bl4d3fire: df -h |
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| 08:51.12 | netman1 | stoffel: looks like a memory leak to me. As a workaround you could run a script every hour to test for the used memory and restart it if it exceeds a certain threshold. |
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| 08:52.09 | Bl4d3fire | oh thanks |
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| 08:52.31 | Bl4d3fire | someone else told me another one, it displayed the size in kilobytes or something |
| 08:52.39 | stoffell | netman1: I was thinking the same, I ran "vmstat 5" in a remote ssh session, and could see swap getting used, but I'm not sure wich process is causing this? (and why it wouldn'tget logged by OOM for example) |
| 08:52.48 | Bl4d3fire | oh yeah, and rm -rf /*, what does -rf stand for? |
| 08:53.01 | stoffell | Bl4d3fire: use df -h you can see the other options.. |
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| 08:53.09 | ktwilight | -f is force, -r is recursive |
| 08:53.15 | stoffell | lol Bl4d3fire rf stands for 'really fucked' :p |
| 08:53.27 | ktwilight | you get it all from rm --help |
| 08:53.34 | Bl4d3fire | lol |
| 08:55.09 | Bl4d3fire | there are sizings higher than terabite? |
| 08:55.12 | Bl4d3fire | wtf? |
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| 08:55.29 | AfterDeath | yeah |
| 08:55.37 | AfterDeath | super-bigo-byte |
| 08:55.57 | waiting | Bl4d3fire: sure, LHC @ CERN makes several PB (petabyte) |
| 08:56.01 | netman1 | stoffel: dump the /proc/*/status files every minute? |
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| 08:57.02 | clintsnet | hey cast, and pons, you guys going be here, for a while? |
| 08:57.42 | stoffell | netman1: hmm, okay, will do that.. maybe even try to dump it remotely or so.. thanks |
| 08:57.43 | cast | maybe not this room, but on freenode no doubt |
| 08:57.53 | stoffell | lol |
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| 09:00.55 | kabootar | is there a rescue cd i can download? |
| 09:01.17 | waiting | Bl4d3fire: good thing with them big computers is that lots of stuff can be fixed manually. here's what they do when their CPU is br0ken http://doc.cern.ch//archive/electronic/cern/others/PHO/photo-alice//its-2006-001.jpg |
| 09:01.37 | stumbles | hi, i'd like to capture a video of my desktop (video walkthrough). Can anyone suggest a suitable program? |
| 09:02.30 | stoffell | stumbles: you could use this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/270 |
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| 09:03.15 | waiting | stumbles: sure, thats what I work on ATM :) |
| 09:03.26 | Bl4d3fire | waiting, kool |
| 09:03.49 | waiting | stumbles: check vncrec or vnc2swf |
| 09:04.59 | waiting | waiting: in debian, there is xvidcap, which is actually even cooler, unfortunately it often crashes |
| 09:05.11 | waiting | ehm ^^^ |
| 09:05.35 | stumbles | cheers!! |
| 09:05.37 | boodie | Hi: I have an etch installed; at boot time it says that ifup can't read /etc/network/interfaces; every time, in order to connect the adsl, I have to launch pppoeconf, because the expected "pon dsl-provider" does nothing. I suspect, again, it's connected with the problem that ifup can't read /etc/network/interfaces ... any hints? |
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| 09:06.05 | waiting | stumbles: so, like the names suggest, these programs do not really capture "your desktop" but a vnc |
| 09:06.27 | Bl4d3fire | what is vnc? |
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| 09:06.40 | waiting | Bl4d3fire: a remote desktop client/server thing |
| 09:06.47 | uwe | boodie, anything special about the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 09:06.47 | stumbles | kabootar: you can recover from many problems using a Debian install CD. will depend on what the problem is |
| 09:06.54 | waiting | Bl4d3fire: works on win32, too |
| 09:07.13 | Bl4d3fire | ok |
| 09:07.18 | kabootar | stumbles, no use actually. netinstall and business card descriptions tell me that its not much use for anything but installing. |
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| 09:07.32 | HelmutG | Did anybody observe one of the following phenomenas? 1) The xserver monotonically increases cpu usage. Atfer one wee my (unstable) xorg uses about 70% CPU. 2) When Composite extension is enabled the xserver segfaults. |
| 09:07.48 | boodie | uwe: this is the ls: "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 582 2006-07-22 10:52 /etc/network/interfaces" |
| 09:08.23 | boodie | Might it be due to the fact that ifup is not root owned? |
| 09:08.49 | uwe | well, interfaces is readable for non-root in your case... |
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| 09:10.10 | liable | boodie: paste the file on a paster |
| 09:10.14 | stumbles | kabootar: a couple of resuce disks i have used are GParted boot disk, ultimate boot disk, system rescue cd... but of course i don't know what you want to fix |
| 09:10.14 | uwe | do you have anything special about partions being mounted? do you have problem with all your interfaces or only when it comes to the dsl |
| 09:10.28 | boodie | I admit that running pppoeconf every time is just a minor nuisance, but still ... it didn't happen with sarge (I suppose etch is called 'testing' for a reason) |
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| 09:11.05 | Bl4d3fire | neither |
| 09:11.14 | andreiutz | is it possible to emulate debian on my windows platform ? |
| 09:11.18 | stumbles | thanks waiting, stoffell these look very useful |
| 09:11.41 | boodie | No, i think i have both ext3 and reiserfs, but no problem whatsoever |
| 09:12.30 | boodie | debian mysteries |
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| 09:13.44 | waiting | can someone recommend me a torrent racker in PHP4? |
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| 09:15.10 | anapivirtua | Hi all. |
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| 09:35.45 | liable | !moo |
| 09:35.45 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 09:36.00 | adrakoa | ipv6: disagrees about version of symbol security_ops.. <- dmesg; what 's this.. |
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| 09:41.31 | eleftherios | haha, apt-get moo is awesome |
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| 09:49.24 | valdyn | waiting: why would it have to be written in php4? |
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| 09:50.23 | valdyn | waiting: what you really mean is probably something like libapache2-mod-bt |
| 09:50.54 | waiting | valdyn: thats far too complicated for a moron like me ^^ I will put it into another fileharing network :) |
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| 09:52.20 | waiting | valdyn: I seen this mod_bt thing but it's incompatible with the httpd available for that operation |
| 09:52.51 | waiting | valdyn: thanks for your effort tho |
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| 10:07.56 | geemark | is apache 2.2 available through the debian apt archives? If not, when will it be? |
| 10:08.25 | cast | geemark: check packages.debian.org and see. |
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| 10:10.05 | clintsnet | back cast |
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| 10:12.16 | geemark | cast: that dones't state when it will be available I guess? |
| 10:12.57 | cast | geemark: nah, just what's currently in stable/testing/unstable. not sure where you look to check the status of things going in |
| 10:14.21 | geemark | cast: thanks anyway |
| 10:15.53 | roxy_ | what is the diff between linux-source and linux-tree ? |
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| 10:23.25 | _ThOmAs | [18:42:22] <netman1> _ThOmAs: look in /etc/apache2 's subdirs. |
| 10:23.28 | _ThOmAs | i dont have apache2 |
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| 10:25.11 | sgiratch | Y elo thar |
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| 10:29.59 | SN^Vampire[unix] | hello |
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| 10:31.02 | liable | hola |
| 10:31.25 | waiting | hmm, a title for a blog article comes to my mind |
| 10:31.37 | waiting | "why go to IRC if I do _not_ have problems?" |
| 10:33.10 | streuner | liable: what do you do against heat? |
| 10:33.49 | streuner | liable: (wihout air-condition, of course) ;-) |
| 10:33.52 | liable | streuner: drink beer and sit in an air-conditioned room? |
| 10:33.55 | liable | oh.. |
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| 10:34.01 | guzu | hello all |
| 10:34.03 | liable | just drink beer then :) |
| 10:34.11 | liable | streuner: go to the beach! |
| 10:34.11 | streuner | liable: do you have air-condition? |
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| 10:34.30 | liable | streuner: yeah, bit hot here to live without it |
| 10:35.34 | liable | streuner: unfortunately, my job is mostly outdoors, so i just have to put up with it, and sweat my ass off :) |
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| 10:36.04 | roxy_ | liable: do you work in a server farm ? |
| 10:36.58 | liable | hah, no. server farms are outdoors? :) |
| 10:37.11 | streuner | s/server/crocodile/ ;-) |
| 10:37.18 | guzu | on debian 2.2, at first boot, in apt-setup i get this error: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. (etc ....) System is 486 dx2/66 with 8 megs of ram and 128 megs of swap. can anyone help me? could be just a broken processor or ram? |
| 10:37.41 | streuner | !dynamic mmap |
| 10:37.41 | dpkg | well, dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
| 10:38.03 | guzu | thnx streuner! |
| 10:38.35 | streuner | get a pentium second hand, they are really cheap |
| 10:39.02 | guzu | streuner, thnx :) i use it for sentimental reasons :) |
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| 10:41.46 | ctx144k | hello |
| 10:41.50 | ctx144k | hello all |
| 10:41.56 | ctx144k | is there a way to map the rs232-port directly to the console? |
| 10:42.02 | ctx144k | i want read out an scanner without opening the rs232-port. i want my data like keyport input |
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| 10:44.25 | liable | streuner: hot there atm eh? |
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| 10:46.06 | waiting | ctx144k: what is a keyport? |
| 10:46.13 | waiting | ctx144k: something like dubai? |
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| 10:50.20 | liable | grr, damn xorg wont compile with mesa |
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| 10:50.59 | waiting | xorg - where all are free to do what HP tells them :) |
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| 10:53.31 | Pascat | Hellos :) I'm having a small problem here... I have aplay that keeps running like 50 times and eats up all my ram >.< is there a way to help fixing this ... its annoying that to have to do 'killall -9 /usr/bin/aplay' all the time :( |
| 10:53.32 | ctx144k | waiting: i meaned "keyboard" |
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| 11:09.52 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:09.52 | dpkg | i guess qotd71 is <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
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| 11:11.48 | guzu | streuner, seems to be not working that cache-limit trick. i've set it up to 100megs. still failing to read that package list at 69% |
| 11:12.11 | clintsnet | sorry all, was taking cast's time |
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| 11:12.23 | symtab | hi |
| 11:12.32 | clintsnet | hello |
| 11:12.35 | liable | sorry for what? |
| 11:12.38 | symtab | how do i see using dpkg, which package contains a specified file? |
| 11:12.46 | clintsnet | for installing? |
| 11:12.47 | symtab | for example which package contains /usr/include/gif_lib.h |
| 11:12.54 | clintsnet | or removing. etc.. :) |
| 11:13.20 | symtab | i want to know which installed package contains this file |
| 11:13.32 | clintsnet | sorry, I still need to read alot on managing the linux system. understanding kernel, etc.. because as an IT, windows has ya half way backwords :P |
| 11:13.38 | liable | !tell symtab about search |
| 11:14.30 | guzu | streuner, i am wondering if updating apt (or wahtever is needed) by hand, will solve this problem ... |
| 11:14.38 | guzu | !dpkg |
| 11:14.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpkg is the base of the Debian package management system. It was created by Ian Jackson in 1993. dpkg is similar to RPM, as it is used to install, remove, and provide information about deb packages. dpkg itself is a low level tool; higher level tools, such as APT, are used to fetch packages from remote locations or deal with complex package relations. see also <apt-get>, <apt>, and <aptitude> |
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| 11:15.19 | clintsnet | I thought his name was.. Ian Murdock |
| 11:15.27 | clintsnet | thats what the Debian Bible said.. :) |
| 11:15.41 | guzu | is there any documentation about debian 2.2 repositories configuration? |
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| 11:16.11 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of sussudio) |
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| 11:24.12 | superlinux | salam all |
| 11:24.28 | anapivirtua | Ubuntu pownz (ou pas) |
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| 11:24.50 | superlinux | if any one here needs help I there |
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| 11:25.51 | FernandoM | hello, i'm having some problems with quake, it run but i can't get any sound. I'm getting this on console /dev/dsp: Broken pipe . What can i do? |
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| 11:32.24 | wassim | hello every body |
| 11:32.36 | wassim | i got a problem with debian |
| 11:32.43 | wassim | can any one help me |
| 11:33.15 | wassim | a problem with X11 |
| 11:33.31 | netman1 | wassim: don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 11:33.43 | wassim | ok |
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| 11:33.56 | clintsnet | hey .. can someone help me with.. 2 system installs with debian etch testing etc// |
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| 11:34.47 | wassim | when booting, i'm on the verbose mode, no graphical interface |
| 11:35.25 | wassim | i tried to switch to the graphic mode but i failed |
| 11:35.32 | clintsnet | for resolution on a nvidia ge force fx 5200, capable of pushing 1600x1200, and then my Acer Laptop Acer Aspire 3610, with the Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express |
| 11:36.00 | Bethy^^ | anyone speak azureus? i'm getting the error at http://channels.pastebin.net/paste/3216 under etch (not sid like it says) and i can't find what's causing it. neither FGI nor the wiki are at all helpful here. anybody? |
| 11:36.00 | wassim | how can I resolve this problem? |
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| 11:36.03 | clintsnet | wassim: , I can try and help you rebuild your video config |
| 11:36.05 | netman1 | wassim: check your /var/log/X* files |
| 11:36.15 | clintsnet | you want to reconfgure X? |
| 11:37.01 | clintsnet | you didn't fail nothing , the system failed :) |
| 11:37.36 | clintsnet | hello Bethy, well I have to join you with Azureus on etch, hee :) |
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| 11:38.39 | wassim | then |
| 11:38.51 | clintsnet | you got another system, I Take it? |
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| 11:39.09 | abrocadabro | does anyone have problems signing into msn using gaim (the latest version) through squid? |
| 11:39.16 | clintsnet | you can normally just reconfigure X again |
| 11:39.48 | guzu | where are the security updates for debian 2.2 please? |
| 11:40.17 | liable | guzu: there arent any anymore. |
| 11:40.23 | clintsnet | I believe the command is.. dependin gon whether your running xfree or x.org. etc.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:40.31 | streuner | guzu: security update are usually 1 year after the next release in repos |
| 11:40.31 | wassim | clintsnet: u want to get my XFree86 log file ? |
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| 11:40.38 | nice_lady | Hi! |
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| 11:40.43 | nice_lady | i'm running debian! |
| 11:41.07 | guzu | liable, well, what about the already published ones? |
| 11:41.08 | clintsnet | wassim: , I"m no pro lol, I"m making my way back to debian, from ubuntu, because I was tired of always hacking it. for total performance, and services and all there annoying updates. :) |
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| 11:41.32 | clintsnet | plus, I have alot of work to get my Acer ASpire laptop running debian with all capabilities and Workstation as well |
| 11:41.41 | nice_lady | liable thank you for your help! I'm up and running debian and I installed without a cdrom or floppies |
| 11:41.52 | clintsnet | yes. the net install is nice :) |
| 11:42.01 | clintsnet | oh, you did a usb? |
| 11:42.07 | nice_lady | nope, harddisk |
| 11:42.12 | clintsnet | good :) |
| 11:42.15 | guzu | thnx liable, streuner |
| 11:42.32 | nice_lady | i'm downloading oracle-xe.deb how do I install it? |
| 11:42.50 | clintsnet | <-- IT guy here.. |
| 11:43.09 | clintsnet | <-- back and forth with linux and unix.. and with making windows stable for people and Vista |
| 11:43.17 | clintsnet | <-- going crazy.. :) |
| 11:43.25 | wassim | can any one help me, i have a lot of work, and i like to have some assistance |
| 11:43.31 | cast_ | nice_lady: probably using dpkg -i, but it might have dependancies. did it come with any documentation? |
| 11:43.38 | clintsnet | wassim: , your not the only 1.. |
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| 11:43.50 | nice_lady | nope |
| 11:43.55 | nice_lady | just downloaded it from oracle.com |
| 11:43.55 | streuner | guzu: try security.debian.org |
| 11:44.15 | liable | guzu: dunno actually |
| 11:44.35 | cast_ | nice_lady: dpkg --info oracle-xe.deb and see, |
| 11:44.39 | abrocadabro | wassim: just ask what you need to ask |
| 11:44.49 | clintsnet | hey cast.. cough cough |
| 11:44.54 | clintsnet | maybe I should just copy every dam ubuntu configuration and break my new debian install lol |
| 11:44.56 | guzu | streuner, i've been there, thnx :) |
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| 11:45.03 | guzu | liable, ok, thnx |
| 11:45.05 | superlinux | wassim, where are you from? I am an arab and can help you |
| 11:45.08 | streuner | guzu: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/potato |
| 11:45.11 | clintsnet | I"m going call ubuntu .. slowtu :) |
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| 11:45.38 | cast_ | clintsnet: nah. dunno how you can have trouble configuring a desktop though ;\, don't worry about X for now. just get the system up. |
| 11:45.38 | mindbob | Anyone use Debian 3.1 r2 with the GRSecurity Patch running a 2.4.32 kernel? |
| 11:45.39 | guzu | streuner, liable what about upgrading from potato to sarge? |
| 11:45.52 | clintsnet | I am going too lmao |
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| 11:46.00 | streuner | guzu: 8 MB RAM? forget it... |
| 11:46.07 | guzu | ok :) |
| 11:46.08 | clintsnet | if I can get VMware Workstation installed on linux. lmao I can get the dam wide screen display and wireless working lmao |
| 11:46.10 | wassim | i'm tunisian, superlinux |
| 11:46.11 | clintsnet | and xfs up and going :) |
| 11:46.17 | guzu | streuner, thnx again |
| 11:46.19 | superlinux | great |
| 11:46.31 | superlinux | wassim, any trouble habibi? |
| 11:46.46 | nice_lady | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.56 | wassim | you speak frensh |
| 11:47.10 | clintsnet | ubuntu is a gag, or at least, why did I use it and help other use it for , almost full year.. |
| 11:47.32 | clintsnet | for the hardware detection :P |
| 11:47.50 | clintsnet | guess if you want power, you have to challenge yourself to da max.. |
| 11:47.55 | wassim | superlinux, u speak frensh, or shall we speak englich? |
| 11:48.09 | guzu | streuner, btw, after i've managed to put some usable sources in sources.list, *that* error was gone |
| 11:48.17 | clintsnet | hey cast.. my new debian system.. finna get xfs :P |
| 11:48.20 | superlinux | english only or arabic on private |
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| 11:48.33 | wassim | arabic on private |
| 11:48.39 | superlinux | ok |
| 11:49.03 | nice_lady | what do I do? |
| 11:51.12 | Spfy | Anyone know anything about MySql? |
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| 11:51.22 | clintsnet | dam no wonder, like I did on PC BSD< its using that i810 INtel driver cast |
| 11:51.36 | clintsnet | eh.. no wonder :) |
| 11:51.49 | geko | hey! can someone tell me how can i install gtk-2.8? i cant find in anywhere, and i dont want to build it from source |
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| 11:52.22 | nice_lady | it's unpacking oracle guys! |
| 11:52.25 | guzu | !aptitude |
| 11:52.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html. But be careful boys'n'grilfs: Bug# 299009 |
| 11:52.36 | clintsnet | lmao. so all I have to do. is tell it to use the i810 , but 1 ting.. eh does etch have xorg support right off the start , or am I going have to compile it .. cast |
| 11:52.38 | nice_lady | geeze, now I see the light, debian is better than redhat |
| 11:52.50 | clintsnet | yeah. all rpm are slow :) |
| 11:52.53 | Bethy^^ | anyone speak azureus? i'm getting the error at http://channels.pastebin.net/paste/3216 under etch (not sid like it says) and i can't find what's causing it. neither FGI nor the wiki are at all helpful here. anybody? |
| 11:53.01 | cast_ | nice_lady: we could have told you that. but a deb unpacking doesn't mean a oracle running ;\ |
| 11:53.12 | wassim | abrocadabro >> some problem with the graphical interface, and the xwindow server, |
| 11:53.37 | clintsnet | FreeBSD pretty much has them all in speed, however.. more on the server parts, but grahpical desktop.. thats where PCBSD comes in. but that still havin some bugs as well :) |
| 11:53.41 | geko | please, someone coould tell me the name of gtk2-8 package? |
| 11:53.45 | nice_lady | Package libaio is not installed. |
| 11:53.46 | nice_lady | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.54 | nice_lady | how do I install them? |
| 11:54.03 | abrocadabro | wassim: you might wanna be a bit more specific than that since you are asking a strong technical question |
| 11:54.04 | wassim | when booting, i am on the verbose mode, and it seems that the xfree86 is brocken* |
| 11:54.04 | clintsnet | lol nice lady |
| 11:54.11 | cast_ | Bethy^^: that links bad |
| 11:54.17 | clintsnet | try this.. open terminal |
| 11:54.27 | cast_ | nice_lady: aptitude search libaio, |
| 11:54.28 | abrocadabro | wassim: what do you mean by broken |
| 11:54.31 | Bethy^^ | already? bummer. |
| 11:54.32 | geko | nice_lady: apt-get instal package |
| 11:54.32 | clintsnet | soon... I'll be joining you with the latest etch testing. etc |
| 11:54.54 | clintsnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.07 | clintsnet | then do a : apt-get update |
| 11:55.11 | cast_ | and libaio1 isn't in debian! yay. |
| 11:55.18 | clintsnet | then... : apt-get install libaio libaio1 |
| 11:55.25 | abrocadabro | wassim: why are you still using xfree86? |
| 11:55.26 | clintsnet | try that.. or you might have to add some repositories :) |
| 11:55.40 | cast_ | libaio is in unstable, |
| 11:55.51 | clintsnet | lol cats |
| 11:55.53 | clintsnet | cast |
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| 11:56.10 | wassim | when i tried to reconfigure it (dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common), it shows me an error message |
| 11:56.12 | clintsnet | well, I"m looking at my config's in ubuntu. and lmao @ them. using the i810, thats what I Did in PCBSD and reconfigured X.. with xorgconfig |
| 11:56.17 | clintsnet | and no wonder my graphics was smokin |
| 11:56.22 | clintsnet | :P |
| 11:56.30 | wassim | abrocadabro:what to use so? |
| 11:56.46 | abrocadabro | wassim: you could try xorg |
| 11:56.47 | _ThOmAs | wats a cool program |
| 11:56.51 | _ThOmAs | so i can share my fodlers |
| 11:56.51 | _ThOmAs | on nix |
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| 11:57.00 | abrocadabro | wassim: what was the msg? |
| 11:57.06 | cast_ | _ThOmAs: *whats, and vsftpd. |
| 11:57.34 | nice_lady | crap |
| 11:57.37 | wassim | the problem, that i'm not using my office for the first time, it was fine, 1 houre before, |
| 11:57.46 | nice_lady | if it's in unstable what do I do? |
| 11:58.16 | abrocadabro | wassim: you said there was an error message, what was it? |
| 11:58.32 | _ThOmAs | but will that be like microsoft network sharing? |
| 11:58.58 | nice_lady | if libaio is in unstable what do I do? |
| 11:59.02 | cast_ | _ThOmAs: no, nothing like it. you could run thttpd aswell |
| 11:59.04 | nice_lady | I need it |
| 11:59.21 | _ThOmAs | i need it so ppl can listen to music stuff etc |
| 11:59.24 | _ThOmAs | thorugh my server |
| 11:59.26 | cast_ | nice_lady: i'd cry first, then consider making your own libaio pkg |
| 11:59.42 | nice_lady | cast_: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa |
| 11:59.47 | wassim | abrocadabro:xfree86-common est cassé ou partiellement installé (in french) |
| 11:59.53 | nice_lady | cast_: now, that is over how do I make my own libaio pkg? |
| 12:00.01 | cast_ | nice_lady: very carefully. |
| 12:00.20 | liable | _ThOmAs: its called samba. google for a bit of info |
| 12:00.36 | wassim | abrocadabro:Xfree86_common is brocken or partielly installed |
| 12:00.40 | Bethy^^ | (fixed link) anyone speak azureus? i'm getting the error at http://pastebin.ca/95877 under etch and i can't find what's causing it. neither FGI nor the wiki are at all helpful here. anybody? |
| 12:00.48 | abrocadabro | wassim: translation might lose accuracy, you can google that msg see if other people have similar problems |
| 12:01.09 | wassim | ok i will try |
| 12:01.40 | clintsnet | I use Azureus |
| 12:01.46 | clintsnet | I don't know if I speak it |
| 12:01.56 | nice_lady | what is wajig? |
| 12:02.15 | Bethy^^ | did you run into the error i get out of cairo? |
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| 12:02.51 | clintsnet | hey cast, I"m going cheat , with a lot of ubuntu configuration files hee :) |
| 12:03.05 | wassim | abrocadabro: no answer, |
| 12:03.19 | clintsnet | next thing you know. .debian cheat sheet |
| 12:03.25 | clintsnet | ;P |
| 12:03.39 | abrocadabro | wassim: did you type the exact msg in google? |
| 12:04.10 | clintsnet | I'm actually going to rewrite TechSmith CAmtasia studio for Linux , systems And maybe unix 1's if I have the time.. CAst |
| 12:04.23 | wassim | abrocadabro: yes, and no answer |
| 12:06.28 | abrocadabro | wassim: perhaps you language wasn't set right, run baseconfig and check if you get the encoding right, it's just a guess anyway |
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| 12:06.45 | wassim | thanks |
| 12:07.51 | kintaro0e | i want to install vmware then is there a console on it?so that i dont need an X on my server?any advice? |
| 12:08.32 | Bethy^^ | vmware requires X |
| 12:09.02 | waiting | kintaro0e: well you could run it in vnc :P |
| 12:09.30 | kintaro0e | okks |
| 12:10.00 | cast_ | my advice is 3 letters, beginning with x and ending with n. and only involving netbsd and linux :> |
| 12:10.15 | waiting | .) |
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| 12:15.57 | _ThOmAs | [22:11:06] <_ThOmAs39> inetd |
| 12:15.57 | _ThOmAs | [22:11:09] <_ThOmAs39> or daemons |
| 12:15.57 | _ThOmAs | Tom says: |
| 12:15.57 | _ThOmAs | for samba? |
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| 12:16.11 | _ThOmAs | inet or daemons for samba |
| 12:16.15 | _ThOmAs | which one should i pick? |
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| 12:17.44 | ed_ | can anyone help me with a maintenance question? i would like very much to repackage vim-gnome, as vim7.0, but i dont know how the vim-gnome package was orginally built. could someone tell me where/how i can find the build environment/scripts? |
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| 12:19.31 | liable | _ThOmAs: doesnt matter really, pick the default (inetd iirc) |
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| 12:19.57 | _ThOmAs | ok ive set it up |
| 12:20.01 | _ThOmAs | now how i use it etc? |
| 12:21.46 | kintaro0e | hi guys.. what i'm planning is install a vmware server only console with windows os..so that i dont need to install xserver. then the developers will connect it to the server using a vnc if this will work..but what you said it need X |
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| 12:26.57 | nice_lady | is it just me or does debian actually run faster than redhat? |
| 12:27.09 | _ThOmAs | how i use samba? |
| 12:27.21 | cast_ | nice_lady: it probably does. |
| 12:28.31 | nice_lady | it appears to me and i'm coming from a redhat 9 env |
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| 12:29.05 | blondie | _ThOmAs: there's good documentation on the samba.org website |
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| 12:32.01 | _fjh_ | Hi, could some please recommend a tool for changing geometry information for XD/SD(flash) cards? |
| 12:32.09 | nice_lady | oracle is running guys |
| 12:33.35 | mindbob | Anyone use Debian 3.1 r2 with the GRSecurity Patch running a 2.4.32 kernel? |
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| 12:39.56 | _ThOmAs | any1 good wif samba here |
| 12:40.46 | rhys | _ThOmAs, whats the problem? and thats not a debian issue |
| 12:42.01 | dimir | !wif |
| 12:42.01 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 12:42.09 | dimir | :-D |
| 12:42.15 | dimir | !any1 |
| 12:42.15 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 12:43.04 | rhys | dimir, he has a 0 in his name. hes 1337. leave him be |
| 12:45.04 | waiting | dpkg: wtf |
| 12:45.36 | dimir | rhys: noway! It's no 0, it's O! :-D |
| 12:45.36 | waiting | !tell me something :) |
| 12:45.50 | dimir | !tell waiting -about something |
| 12:45.51 | _ThOmAs | i know but no1 answers in #samba |
| 12:45.56 | _ThOmAs | i cant connect to the box for sambva |
| 12:46.05 | _ThOmAs | not authorized |
| 12:46.10 | _ThOmAs | to login from my station |
| 12:46.12 | dimir | And "I can't spell samba"! |
| 12:46.16 | waiting | dimir: thy :) |
| 12:46.21 | dimir | waiting: ;-) |
| 12:46.22 | rhys | dimir, actually your right. :\ hes not even leet. |
| 12:46.28 | dimir | hehe |
| 12:46.31 | _ThOmAs | cant find where in the config it says for me not to axs it |
| 12:46.34 | waiting | it. is. too. hot. here. |
| 12:46.41 | rhys | _ThOmAs, is english your first language? |
| 12:47.00 | Ronin | waiting: like its any cooler out there? i know its not here, *phew* |
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| 12:48.25 | rhys | waiting, watercool your head. pretty easy way to keep cool |
| 12:48.52 | rhys | run the hoses into a 5000 gallon tank buried 10foot underground, and just build a hollow copper cap. small pool pump inline, and you are cool! |
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| 12:49.19 | Ronin | and broke too |
| 12:49.55 | waiting | Ronin: maybe a bucket & ice cubes can help, too |
| 12:49.55 | rhys | Ronin, not if your inventive. :D |
| 12:51.36 | Ronin | :) |
| 12:52.40 | rhys | ive thought about this a bit. If you take an airconditioning unit, and put the core into a cooler, rerun the copper wire and refill it, maybe with an alcohol based mix...but anyway, fill the cooler with water. its a minifridge, and since its filled with water, which is a much better heattranferer than air, it is alot more efficent. |
| 12:53.50 | CHodapp | losers . . . just move to Antarctica. |
| 12:54.14 | rhys | penguins!! |
| 12:55.37 | ed_ | can anyone help me with a maintenance question? i would like very much to repackage vim-gnome, as vim7.0, but i dont know how the vim-gnome package was orginally built. could someone tell me where/how i can find the build environment/scripts? |
| 12:56.51 | rhys | ed_, try making it from source, and using checkinstall |
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| 12:57.45 | ed_ | the package, or the source tarball? |
| 12:58.05 | liable | ed_: apt-get source vim-gnome |
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| 13:06.44 | rhys | damnit. |
| 13:06.50 | rhys | dpkg--reconfigure doesnt work. :( |
| 13:07.53 | cast_ | i hope you mean dpkg-reconfigure |
| 13:08.14 | rhys | probably. :) |
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| 13:11.43 | enouf | wassim: still there? |
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| 13:13.34 | guzu | my debian 2.2 keeps freezing when loading md driver. is there a way to skip this driver? since i have no scsi, no raid, etc |
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| 13:14.11 | daniel_bergamini | hello all |
| 13:14.33 | cast | guzu: it's a module right? just make sure it doesn't get loaded, i think there maybe some config you could change...but i'd personally just move it out of /lib/linux/modules/kernel |
| 13:14.57 | enouf | wassim: previously wrote-> "when i tried to reconfigure it (dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common), it shows me an error message" -- but AFAIK, the command should be either 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' or ' ... xserver-xorg' depending upon which you are running |
| 13:14.59 | daniel_bergamini | I'm looking to interact and datalog from an external serial device. I initially thought expect but it doesn't seem to be well suited for data gathering. Any recommendations? |
| 13:15.07 | guzu | cast, thnx, let me try this :) |
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| 13:16.04 | cast | guzu: sorry, that's /lib/modules/2...etc.. |
| 13:16.19 | guzu | cast, ok |
| 13:16.39 | guzu | cast, for some reasons, it only happens after warm reboot ... |
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| 13:17.10 | waiting | it is even more hot outside than inside :) |
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| 13:17.25 | waiting | also, a thunderstorm grows in |
| 13:17.35 | CHodapp | pffft |
| 13:17.39 | CHodapp | waterproof your laptop |
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| 13:19.17 | tcv | Hi, I am running Trustix, which I think is a debian-based distro. (Sorry, I'm very n00b and have an opportunity to play with a box.) How can I find out what services run on and and where would one go to enable/disable them? |
| 13:20.06 | Ronin | tcv: try #trustix? |
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| 13:20.48 | tcv | I issued a "/list #trus*" but no channel? Maybe I misstyped something... |
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| 13:21.08 | tcv | Yeah, I don't see a Trustix channel... |
| 13:21.23 | tcv | I thought it might be standard debian stuff, but I dunno. |
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| 13:26.04 | zaib | Guys, what is "udebs"? |
| 13:26.39 | skrewz | zaib: Microdebs, as mostly used in debian installer. IIRC. |
| 13:26.58 | zaib | skrewz: Microdebs? |
| 13:27.07 | zaib | I'm not familiar with those either. |
| 13:27.24 | skrewz | zaib: The 'u' being stand-in for the greek mu. |
| 13:27.45 | skrewz | Anyway. They are supposedly used in the installer. |
| 13:27.46 | zaib | Oh. |
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| 13:28.24 | derek_ | Hello |
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| 13:29.32 | zaib | skrewz: They are supposedly used in the installer to achieve what? |
| 13:29.38 | zaib | Or for what purpose? |
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| 13:30.04 | gnuzi|afk | what is the best movie player in linux? |
| 13:30.13 | guzu | how do i find out the version of one installed package? |
| 13:30.15 | tcv | Well, I found out about init.d. And I see how to start|stop|status a service, but I don't see how to find out what starts at boot. |
| 13:30.25 | skrewz | zaib: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udeb |
| 13:30.33 | zaib | gnuzi: I think that would be mplayer. |
| 13:30.41 | zaib | skrewz: Thank you! |
| 13:30.42 | gnuzi | using apt-version? |
| 13:31.47 | gnuzi | not vlc? |
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| 13:33.09 | gnuzi | not vlc? |
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| 13:33.53 | derek_ | Hi |
| 13:33.58 | gnuzi | hi |
| 13:34.06 | derek_ | want to install debian on a laptop, any suggestions? |
| 13:34.38 | blondie | suggestions for what? |
| 13:34.46 | gnuzi | check linux-on-laptop.org |
| 13:34.47 | skrewz | derek_: Find yourself a nice howto, that is written to your specific computer model. |
| 13:35.01 | derek_ | on this: http://chanel.dip.jp/~derek/M2512AU/cpuzreport_original.html |
| 13:35.24 | derek_ | skrewz: can't find one for this model |
| 13:35.43 | skrewz | derek_: What's the model? |
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| 13:35.56 | derek_ | Compaq Presario M2512AU |
| 13:36.11 | derek_ | skrewz: look at the link for details on CPU, mainboard. |
| 13:36.56 | gnuzi | how much it costs in usd? |
| 13:37.27 | skrewz | derek_: No, that link's fine. |
| 13:38.01 | derek_ | ? |
| 13:38.07 | skrewz | derek_: There should be no complications on that hardware. The interesting part would be the graphics adapter and the screen resolution. |
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| 13:38.37 | derek_ | "interesting part" :) ..you mean one with which I may encounter troubles while installing? ;) |
| 13:39.18 | skrewz | derek_: So the next suggestion is, that you backup your data, and install Windows over again, but only giving it half the harddisk space. Then install Debian on that second half. |
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| 13:39.52 | jadrifter | Good morning. Got a permissions mystery on my hands this morning. |
| 13:40.04 | skrewz | Yeah, that's what I meant. Widescreen sucks -- both because it's a pain to use, and a pain to set up. |
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| 13:40.32 | derek_ | mine isn't widescreen |
| 13:40.45 | derek_ | and I dislike widescreen for work too >.< |
| 13:40.49 | skrewz | The graphics adapter is a what? |
| 13:40.50 | gnuzi | mine is widescreen...and it is GREAT |
| 13:40.55 | gnuzi | it doesnt suck |
| 13:41.03 | derek_ | it is great for watching movies, that's all |
| 13:41.12 | gnuzi | i code... |
| 13:41.21 | skrewz | gnuzi: Obviously a subjective question. :) |
| 13:41.23 | gnuzi | i can write wider LINES... :D |
| 13:41.42 | skrewz | Yes, but I can have more of them on my screen. ;) |
| 13:42.00 | gnuzi | wsxga? |
| 13:42.07 | derek_ | you can on any display. but on a widescreen you view less lines at a time.. and usually the lines of code aren't too long |
| 13:42.10 | skrewz | gnuzi: Huh? |
| 13:42.11 | gnuzi | uwsxga |
| 13:42.15 | waiting | wind comes |
| 13:42.33 | tcv | Does anyone here know about "chkconfig?" It seems to do what I am asking -- give me a list of services that will start up, and allow me to modify that for runlevels I specify. Am I right? |
| 13:42.34 | waiting | i go inside again ^^ |
| 13:42.40 | gnuzi | what is the best movie player in linux? |
| 13:43.07 | derek_ | mplayer |
| 13:43.08 | gnuzi | its better than vlc? |
| 13:43.11 | skrewz | gnuzi: Well, if it's my resolution you're inquiring to, it's 1600*1200. |
| 13:43.22 | derek_ | I can't say |
| 13:43.24 | gnuzi | ok...thats nice... |
| 13:43.26 | derek_ | vlc is good too |
| 13:43.40 | gnuzi | :(...now i have to compile vlc for my distro... |
| 13:43.52 | gnuzi | pain |
| 13:43.53 | derek_ | apt-get install |
| 13:44.05 | gnuzi | i dont use debian...i moved to core... |
| 13:44.08 | skrewz | gnuzi: Assuming you're using Debian, they provide some apt repository? |
| 13:44.14 | derek_ | fedora? |
| 13:44.17 | gnuzi | =) |
| 13:44.19 | guzu | cast, unfortunately, i have no idea wich is the module wich is trying to load the md driver :( |
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| 13:44.35 | gnuzi | no... http://coredistro.sf.net ... a dead distro |
| 13:45.05 | derek_ | I heard the latest ubuntu would be better to install on a laptop has it has a wider range of drivers shipped |
| 13:45.23 | gnuzi | yeah i installed it on someones laptop... |
| 13:45.26 | derek_ | as* it has.. |
| 13:45.29 | gnuzi | there was no probs at all |
| 13:45.34 | gnuzi | iirc |
| 13:46.13 | derek_ | so how much MB is the minimum install of Debian? |
| 13:46.53 | skrewz | derek_: I typically wind up at <300MiB, for an X-less install. |
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| 13:48.27 | derek_ | skrewz: kool. You do net-install? or you download an ISO of <300MB? |
| 13:48.47 | skrewz | derek_: That's netinst... Always... |
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| 13:49.06 | derek_ | I need an ISO |
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| 13:49.17 | mloskot | Can anyone explain me why dh_make puts "cpptkBROKEN" for Depends: value and adds "Package: cpptkBROKEN" into control file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ko1OTL35.html |
| 13:49.27 | derek_ | because I can't be connected to the internet without "dialing-in" |
| 13:50.14 | derek_ | So is an ISO of minimal installation available for download? |
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| 13:51.56 | liable | derek_: the net installer can do an x-less install without internet |
| 13:51.56 | skrewz | derek_: Yeah, the netinst image contains the ``base system'', which I am not aware of whether contains the ppp tools. |
| 13:51.59 | Ronin | derek_: disk 1 may be best for you |
| 13:52.00 | Eclipser | is /media _needed_ by something in debian or can I mount my own partition to it? |
| 13:52.03 | liable | derek_: the business iso cant |
| 13:52.04 | Ronin | or the d-i |
| 13:52.04 | mloskot | OK, I found the solution, thanks |
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| 13:53.21 | derek_ | Ronin: How big is the disk 1? (full disk?) |
| 13:53.35 | derek_ | problem is my internet is quite slow |
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| 13:56.41 | skrewz | derek_: Usual CD size. There exists CD vendors, from which you can buy a CD. |
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| 13:57.45 | liable | d-i is ~160MB iirc |
| 13:57.53 | derek_ | oh cool |
| 13:57.55 | liable | iso1 is 700 |
| 13:58.04 | derek_ | erm. what do you mean :) |
| 13:58.17 | derek_ | d-i means disk 1? |
| 13:58.33 | thingfish | Eclipser: you can't just create a new mount point and then mount your partition there? |
| 13:58.39 | liable | the net installer, which will give you base, but no x, is ~160. disk 1 has x and gnome and kde. is 700 |
| 13:58.48 | Eclipser | thingfish, I would but I'm terrible at figuring out a new name for it |
| 13:59.12 | Tallu_ | I'm trying to have irssi run on reboot. What I did was, I put this in my crontab as the user: @reboot ./home/juuso/irssionreboot and then made a file called irssionreboot, gave u+x and the contents of thta file is screen -d -m irssi |
| 13:59.24 | Tallu_ | for some reason it isnt starting it though |
| 14:00.06 | skrewz | Tallu_: You haven't specified the interpreter. You should put something like ``#!/bin/sh'' in the first line of the file. |
| 14:00.16 | Tallu_ | ah, got it, thanks |
| 14:00.18 | Eclipser | has there been some problems with nvidia-kernel module in sid because there doesn't seem to be a package for 2.6.17 kernel (only 2.6.15 and .16)? |
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| 14:00.35 | derek_ | I don't want gnome/kde. (But I will need to run Gimp, Inkscape, Blender3d. What would they require?) |
| 14:00.41 | Tallu_ | #!/bin/sh |
| 14:00.41 | Tallu_ | screen -d -m irssi |
| 14:00.45 | Tallu_ | so this would do the trick? |
| 14:00.50 | skrewz | Tallu_: Yes. |
| 14:00.51 | Tallu_ | do I need the ./ on crontab? |
| 14:00.58 | Tallu_ | I suppose I do. :) |
| 14:01.25 | skrewz | No, you don't. Your user's crontab is executed from your user's homedir. |
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| 14:01.47 | Eclipser | derek_, you need libgnome and libgtk and whatever libraries they require, you don't need the whole desktop environment |
| 14:01.59 | derek_ | Eclipser: cool |
| 14:02.16 | skrewz | You could suffice with ``./irssionreeboot''. In fact, ./home/juuso/irssionreboot should be wrong. |
| 14:02.40 | Tallu_ | skrewz: okay, thanks. :) I'll fix that and then give her a try |
| 14:03.48 | derek_ | I need pppd |
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| 14:04.46 | hjubal | hola |
| 14:05.20 | derek_ | and bluez |
| 14:05.59 | derek_ | Will the net-install be able to detect a USB drive? |
| 14:06.06 | derek_ | pendrive |
| 14:06.34 | skrewz | derek_: Yes. |
| 14:07.07 | derek_ | k. And in what form should I carry the Bluez and ppp installers? .deb? or the tar.gz? |
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| 14:08.27 | skrewz | derek_: You should pick them up from the mirrors themselves. Somewhere in the pool-dir, the .deb should be found. |
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| 14:08.37 | Tallu_ | skrewz: ok it works now, thanks a lot |
| 14:08.56 | skrewz | Tallu_: Np. |
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| 14:09.57 | derek_ | skrewz: okay |
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| 14:11.22 | oldsparky | 'giorno |
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| 14:15.17 | derek_ | I will need to do this: http://www.mobguru.com/Linux+GPRS+Bluetooth.htm ..over bluetooth |
| 14:16.44 | Eclipser | interesting |
| 14:16.52 | derek_ | (Airtel is the service provider) |
| 14:17.15 | Eclipser | my box didn't come with lspci :> |
| 14:17.20 | Eclipser | which package has it :o |
| 14:18.03 | derek_ | Eclipser: that's how I am connected to the internet at the moment, but on windows. Bluetooth stack: Bluesoleil. It's easy to connect using it. |
| 14:18.04 | dvs | !info pciutils sarge |
| 14:18.10 | dpkg | pciutils: (Linux PCI Utilities), section admin, is optional. Version: 1:2.1.11-15 (sarge), Packaged size: 140 kB, Installed size: 492 kB |
| 14:18.42 | Eclipser | that's better |
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| 14:23.26 | derek_ | "Check and Install pppd , irda-utils and bluez libraries and rfcomm kernel patch if needed." ..what is 'rfcomm kernel patch' ? |
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| 14:25.14 | stew | derek_: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:27.59 | derek_ | stew: I'm on windows at the moment. |
| 14:28.15 | stew | derek_: do you know what kernel version you are running? |
| 14:28.20 | stew | derek_: are you nytr8? |
| 14:28.30 | derek_ | stew: I haven't installed linux yet. |
| 14:29.47 | stew | derek_: you don't need the rfcomm patch in debian, all of the current debian kernels have rfcomm support already |
| 14:30.38 | derek_ | OK |
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| 14:32.05 | dn4 | I was wondering what my DSP:/dev/soundcard would be |
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| 14:33.40 | clintsnet | hey all, cast a real nice helper :) |
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| 14:34.39 | dn4 | Does anyone have an idea on how to find out what my DSP:/dev/soundcard would be? |
| 14:34.54 | resolve | well, i wonder what the channel will turn back into with the return of xah |
| 14:35.04 | blondie | dn4: what? |
| 14:35.48 | dn4 | blondie, I am trying to find out what the soundcard is under dev |
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| 14:36.19 | andrei | does anyone know who the webmaster(s) for Debian.org are and how to contact them other than by emailing to webmaster@debian.org? |
| 14:36.44 | asg | andrei: you can use bugs.debian.org to file bugs against the website pages if there is some error |
| 14:37.03 | Eulex | dn4, it's /dev/dsp for oss. for alsa you usually don't have to specify a device. |
| 14:37.14 | andrei | asg: nope. I want to offer the webmaster to add a page to his/her website |
| 14:37.19 | stew | andrei: you can file a bug against the "www.debian.org" virtual package, or send an email to http://lists.debian.org/debian-www |
| 14:37.49 | andrei | stew: as said to asg - I need to talk to him/her/them |
| 14:37.51 | asg | andrei: in Debian offering help is often done by filing bugs |
| 14:38.01 | andrei | asg: how is that? |
| 14:38.05 | dn4 | Eulex, how can I check ? |
| 14:38.11 | asg | andrei: if they are interested, they will respond to the bug and, if necessary, go out-of-band. |
| 14:38.20 | stew | andrei: yeah, i gave you two ways to do that |
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| 14:39.13 | andrei | stew: I understand the ways, but my question is: is suggesting that I add content to the Debian.org website appropriate as a 'bug'? what kind of 'bug' would that be? |
| 14:39.34 | stew | andrei: wishlist bug, or just write to the mailing list |
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| 14:39.41 | dn4 | <07/22/06@09:37:26> [DECODE] Opened dsp |
| 14:39.41 | dn4 | <07/22/06@09:37:26> [CONFIG] WARNING: No InputSamplerate defined, assuming 44100! |
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| 14:39.51 | andrei | stew: ok. thanks for the advice! |
| 14:40.01 | dn4 | after that I get kicked from the server I am trying to broadcast to |
| 14:40.11 | mha13 | how can i configure buttons on a mouse ? |
| 14:40.51 | stew | mha13: how exactly are you hoping to configure it? |
| 14:41.21 | asg | Left Button == Order Pizza, Right Button == Feed Cat |
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| 14:41.35 | stew | for that you want xbindkeys |
| 14:41.35 | mha13 | stew:i own 6 button mouse . |
| 14:41.47 | blondie | mha13: have you got six fingers? :O |
| 14:42.08 | Eulex | dn4, try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 14:42.10 | mha13 | asg:so if i make dubel click my cat will have as feast ? |
| 14:42.12 | stew | blondie: how many keys on your keyboard? :P |
| 14:42.18 | Eulex | (turn the volume down first, though) |
| 14:42.22 | asg | mha13: indeed. |
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| 14:42.44 | blondie | stew: do I have to count them all? :( |
| 14:42.49 | dn4 | Eulex, that hurt my ears |
| 14:43.02 | mha13 | blondie:×©× ×š×§×©×“× 104 |
| 14:43.02 | stew | blondie: i was just wondering if it was more than 10 |
| 14:43.10 | mha13 | blondie:at least 104 |
| 14:43.13 | Eulex | dn4, hehe, sorry, should have warned you earlier :) |
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| 14:43.22 | Eulex | dn4, at least you know that it's the right device |
| 14:43.23 | Maquiavelo | Greetings |
| 14:43.24 | asg | mha13: unless it's a laptop keybard |
| 14:43.35 | blondie | mha13: I have keyboards with 102 keys :P |
| 14:43.40 | stew | mha13: if you just want to affect which buttons generate which button event, you want xmodmap, if you want to assign commands to some of the buttons use xbindkeys |
| 14:43.49 | torch|stuff | I have keyboards with 547 keys |
| 14:43.51 | asg | mha13: xev can be helpful too |
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| 14:44.02 | dn4 | Eulex, any idea why /dev/dsp shows nothing under audacity? |
| 14:44.13 | torch | 547... thousand keys |
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| 14:44.27 | mha13 | 10x to all |
| 14:44.38 | stew | dn4: do you use alsa? do you have snd-pcm-oss? |
| 14:44.57 | stew | i try to stay between 11x and 15x most of the time |
| 14:45.01 | Eulex | dn4, eh, what do you mean? |
| 14:45.02 | Maquiavelo | I have my mp3's and movies on a NTFS partition I had when I had Windows XP. I want to keep them in that partition, and I would like to listen/view them in Linux. I can access the partition and user root can playback the mp3, but my regular user can't. I tried chowning chmodding them, but I get an error: "Operation not permitted". Any ideas? |
| 14:45.31 | blondie | 108... that can't be right |
| 14:45.38 | asg | Maquiavelo: /msg dpkg ntfs |
| 14:46.01 | yang | what is wrong with this syntax - for mp3 in * do; lame -b 32 -m mo $mp3 $mp3.2.mp3; done; |
| 14:46.06 | stew | Maquiavelo: you want use the uid/gid/umask options to mount, man mount |
| 14:46.17 | dn4 | I use Alsa |
| 14:46.31 | blondie | yang: do filenames have spaces in? |
| 14:46.32 | stew | yang: you want for mp3 in * ; do lame... |
| 14:46.39 | dn4 | the ca0106 driver |
| 14:46.41 | blondie | and that |
| 14:46.42 | stew | dn4: make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded |
| 14:47.09 | Maquiavelo | stew, The user uid ? |
| 14:47.17 | stew | Maquiavelo: yes |
| 14:47.21 | Maquiavelo | Ok |
| 14:47.30 | stew | Maquiavelo: man mount, look up those three options |
| 14:47.32 | yang | blondie: yes, they have spaces |
| 14:47.37 | Maquiavelo | I kno whow, thank you. |
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| 14:47.41 | Maquiavelo | know how* |
| 14:48.01 | tommy | hello |
| 14:48.05 | blondie | yang: it won't work then |
| 14:48.16 | Eclipser | why the hell does gksu depend on libgnomevfs2-0 on sid o.O |
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| 14:48.20 | blondie | yang: bash will think they're seperate files |
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| 14:48.42 | stew | yang: if htey ahve spaces, "for mp3 in *" isn't going to work. you'll want something like "find -name \*.wav | while read mp3 ; do lame..." instead |
| 14:49.00 | yang | stew: thanks |
| 14:50.32 | stew | yang: and if these are .wavs you proabably want something like ${mp3%wav}mp3 instead of $mp3.2.mp3, which would turn foo.wav into foo.mp3 instead of foo.wav.2.mp3 |
| 14:51.01 | yang | they aren´t wavs they are mp3 files |
| 14:51.41 | yang | seems this also doesn´t solve it - find -name \*.mp3 | while read mp3 ;do lame -b 32 -m mo $mp3 $mp3.2.mp3; done; |
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| 14:52.21 | blondie | yang: you might be able to use xargs or find -exec |
| 14:52.32 | stew | yang: does "find -name \*.mp3" list the files you expect to operate on, one per line? |
| 14:52.38 | dn4 | stew, snd-pcm-oss is loaded, but I still don't get to capture anything |
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| 14:52.49 | Maquiavelo | Can someone recommend a good movie player ? |
| 14:52.49 | Tassu | ööt |
| 14:52.54 | yang | stew: yes it lists them |
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| 14:53.10 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:mplayer ,xine .. |
| 14:53.33 | Maquiavelo | Thanks |
| 14:53.40 | stew | yang: oh, you need to replace $mp3 and $mp3.2.mp3 with "$mp3" and "$mp3.2.mp3" |
| 14:54.45 | yang | ok thanks a lot |
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| 14:54.51 | Daishi | how do i tell if a certain dvd recorder is supported with dvdrecord? i cant seem to get to its webpage at arklinux.org...its just blank |
| 14:55.01 | Maquiavelo | That's weird, if I aptitude install mplayer, aptitude removes gdm, gconf and other applications, and doesn't install mplayer |
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| 14:56.03 | rene | Bonjour ! |
| 14:56.07 | Maquiavelo | Bonjour |
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| 14:56.23 | Daishi | Maquiavelo: does apt-get -f install fix it? |
| 14:56.35 | Tallu | whoo. I got it all up and running. :) |
| 14:57.02 | Maquiavelo | Nope, I don't know if mplayer is available on etch because I can't find it with search |
| 14:57.15 | rene | Maquiavelo: c'est un chan en Anglais ? |
| 14:57.15 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:afaik mplayer is not in the mirros .. |
| 14:57.17 | Tallu | what would you guys suggest for connecting to say msn messenger on debian? |
| 14:57.18 | dn4 | maybe this updated version of the alsa drivers will help out |
| 14:57.28 | dn4 | my soundcard is fairly new and needs more support |
| 14:57.28 | Maquiavelo | rene, Oui, debian-fr c'est le francais chan |
| 14:57.30 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:you need to biuld from source |
| 14:57.35 | Maquiavelo | figured |
| 14:57.42 | rene | Maquiavelo: Thank's |
| 14:57.48 | Maquiavelo | de rien |
| 14:57.57 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:try xine .. it prety good also |
| 14:58.06 | Maquiavelo | I will |
| 14:58.14 | rene | Maquiavelo: so I go on #debian-fr :) |
| 14:58.15 | Maquiavelo | how does the whole plugin mess work with xine? |
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| 14:58.37 | Maquiavelo | I have a bunch of porn... errr instructional videos, in different formats, like divx, xvid, etc. |
| 14:58.49 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:plugins ? .. |
| 14:58.55 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:oo codecs .. |
| 14:59.00 | Maquiavelo | codecs :P |
| 14:59.25 | mha13 | just drop them into /usr/lib/codec |
| 14:59.40 | Maquiavelo | I see, 0-4 |
| 14:59.42 | Maquiavelo | err 10-4 |
| 14:59.57 | mha13 | Maquiavelo:but check it in the pacage .. (maybe they changed the the path) |
| 15:01.23 | mha13 | can i use ssh tru proxy ? |
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| 15:02.01 | mha13 | i mean is it safe ? |
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| 15:04.32 | nice_lady | Hi! |
| 15:04.48 | nice_lady | how do I view/read/write windows directories from samba? |
| 15:04.52 | frego_ | hello, everybody, I've just did a stupid error, and deleted /var/lib/*. I cannot reinstall the server, how can i reinstall apt-get and dpkg so I can try to reinstall everythong that had files in /var/lib ? |
| 15:04.57 | Maquiavelo | Anyone knows how to remap the hotkey to killing the X server? (shift + backspace) ? |
| 15:05.01 | nice_lady | i read the manpages and i'm still lost :( |
| 15:05.20 | nice_lady | cast what else is there? |
| 15:06.10 | cast | i'm not sure to be honest, i get by with scp and sftp |
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| 15:06.40 | nice_lady | i want to run subversion on debian but use xp pro as my repository, it has high speed disks |
| 15:06.58 | cast | how fasts the network though? |
| 15:07.13 | nice_lady | 100base -T |
| 15:07.49 | nice_lady | there is no one here to help me with samba :( |
| 15:07.53 | cast | so is that going to bottle neck remote disk access to such an extent that local is faster? |
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| 15:08.14 | nice_lady | don't know |
| 15:08.15 | nice_lady | i |
| 15:08.22 | nice_lady | but if I can get it working i'll find out |
| 15:09.17 | mha13 | nice_lady:#samba ? |
| 15:09.22 | nice_lady | yes |
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| 15:09.54 | cast | nice_lady: well, it at 100mbits, or <13megabytes/second, surely your local disk isn't slower than that? |
| 15:09.56 | nice_lady | mha13, i want to view/read/write to windows disk i read the man pages for samba and smb.conf 5 and i'm lost |
| 15:10.21 | nice_lady | cast the xp disks are also better |
| 15:10.27 | mha13 | nice_lady:i ment try the chanell #samba |
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| 15:10.37 | nice_lady | ok. |
| 15:10.37 | mha13 | nice_lady:sorry .. |
| 15:10.38 | nice_lady | thanks. |
| 15:10.56 | cast | this 2mb cache 80gb 7200rpm gets >50megs/sec |
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| 15:10.58 | Eclipser | uh |
| 15:11.13 | Eclipser | how can I get by this: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul 23 03:08:27 2006 |
| 15:11.35 | cast | ahh who am i to question peoples weird network setups. |
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| 15:19.05 | clintsnet | nice |
| 15:19.09 | clintsnet | nice_lady |
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| 15:20.11 | nice_lady | how do I turn on services in inetd? |
| 15:20.36 | clintsnet | nice_lady: are ou puttin some kind of front on.. as the nice_lady |
| 15:20.59 | clintsnet | you been asking so many questions, and we really can't support you hacking systems :) |
| 15:21.09 | cast | bad_lady: so what's this server for? |
| 15:21.22 | bad_lady | it's for me |
| 15:21.27 | cast | ahhh. |
| 15:21.33 | cast | and what inetd service? |
| 15:21.33 | stew | bad_lady: man inetd.conf |
| 15:21.35 | bad_lady | and i don't hack system |
| 15:21.37 | clintsnet | if you want to do that.. phlak. or knopppix etc.. heck even. go Freesbie |
| 15:21.37 | bad_lady | swat |
| 15:21.48 | clintsnet | :) |
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| 15:22.17 | veterina1r | now it rains :) |
| 15:22.21 | bad_lady | screw it i'll edit it by hand |
| 15:22.26 | clintsnet | cast, next system I build and engineer, is going support SaTA :) |
| 15:22.57 | clintsnet | it seems to me, that you do know the information of what you need to do. seeing how you messing with all this corporate .. enterprise hardware.. etc.. :) |
| 15:23.36 | clintsnet | thats a gag, go from nice_lady to bad_lady,, and then back to nice_lady in a matter of minutes. thats hillarious, makes me smile :) |
| 15:23.59 | clintsnet | hey cast.. that xfs is blazin through lol |
| 15:24.09 | clintsnet | :D |
| 15:24.23 | clintsnet | thank you SGI :) |
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| 15:25.15 | veterina1r | SGI - building x86 fileservers since 2002 |
| 15:25.20 | veterina1r | (; |
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| 15:26.42 | clintsnet | hm.. moreover I would take it.. bad lady.. into the ethical hacking as well :) |
| 15:27.40 | clintsnet | I can see it now.... Headlines**** nice_lady arrested at software firm.... do to compremising systems for self pleasures :) |
| 15:27.59 | cast | '[SECURITY] [DSA 1118-1] New Mozilla packages fix several vulnerabilities' eh that's slightly worrying |
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| 15:28.10 | stew | clintsnet: what are you talking about? |
| 15:28.14 | veterina1r | cast: 8) don't click every link |
| 15:28.19 | clintsnet | thats slighty why I don't use mozilla .. hee |
| 15:28.52 | stew | cast: what is wrong? |
| 15:29.02 | veterina1r | ahhhhhhh it cools down rapidly due to rain & thunderstorm - soon I can go zZzZ %) |
| 15:29.05 | clintsnet | cast got me laughin |
| 15:29.39 | clintsnet | in private chat cast.. in private chat.. lol |
| 15:29.42 | cast | stew: well, via my browser and irc client are probably the easiest ways into this box |
| 15:29.49 | dn4 | hellz fuk yeah! my soundcard works after I got updated drivers |
| 15:30.14 | clintsnet | -> casti really hope ____ isn't doing whatever ____ doing at a job site :\ :P |
| 15:30.30 | clintsnet | stew.. cast got me almost pissin ma pants laughin |
| 15:30.47 | clintsnet | although I edited some of that :) |
| 15:31.03 | cast | i said that ages ago! read PM's more often |
| 15:31.40 | clintsnet | I know.. cough cough |
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| 15:39.40 | wireddd | I just tried to run something with wine and it screwed up one of my displays, is there some way to reset it back to the original resolution without restarting x? |
| 15:41.05 | wireddd | wait, nm |
| 15:41.24 | Tallu | ehm, for some reason my linux distro just started imagining its year 2001 |
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| 15:41.50 | cast | Tallu: ahh well. install ntpdate. |
| 15:43.09 | Tallu | cast: yay, that helped. thanks. :) |
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| 15:44.48 | alexbodn | hello, how can i load package control information using python-apt? |
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| 15:48.19 | fuzzybunny | hello I was wondering can someone help me figure out what the default gateway is for a specific adapter |
| 15:48.37 | fuzzybunny | I'm typing "ifconfig eth1" and its not producing the results I need |
| 15:48.41 | alexbodn | run route -n |
| 15:49.05 | fuzzybunny | alexbodn, thank you, but this is an ipcop deployment |
| 15:49.32 | alexbodn | sorry, what is ipcop? |
| 15:49.48 | fuzzybunny | its a gateway solution run on debian |
| 15:50.15 | alexbodn | yours, personal? |
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| 15:50.56 | fuzzybunny | alexbodn, http://rafb.net/paste/results/XQGDH825.html |
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| 15:51.34 | fuzzybunny | I would think the gateway is 64.179.8.0 |
| 15:51.49 | fuzzybunny | err 64.179.8.1 |
| 15:52.00 | alexbodn | no, it's the last line |
| 15:52.07 | alexbodn | right |
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| 15:52.18 | fuzzybunny | so I'm correct then? |
| 15:52.20 | alexbodn | can you ping it? |
| 15:52.44 | fuzzybunny | nope |
| 15:52.57 | fuzzybunny | PING 64.179.8.1 (64.179.8.1): 56 data bytes |
| 15:52.58 | fuzzybunny | --- 64.179.8.1 ping statistics --- |
| 15:52.58 | fuzzybunny | 15 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss |
| 15:52.59 | alexbodn | ifconfig eth1 ? |
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| 15:53.06 | redondos | I have an nForce network card on debian testing amd64. It loads the 'forcedeth' reverse engineered driver upon boot. I've checked /etc/modprobe.conf, /etc/modules and I can't find a reference to it. How can I find out why it is being loaded? |
| 15:53.59 | fuzzybunny | alexbodn, that's my ISP's machine |
| 15:54.07 | fuzzybunny | so I think they block ICMP traffic |
| 15:54.20 | alexbodn | how do you get connected? with dhcp? |
| 15:54.35 | fuzzybunny | nope |
| 15:54.36 | fuzzybunny | static |
| 15:54.43 | fuzzybunny | kk thx for the help |
| 15:54.48 | fuzzybunny | I gotta configure this thing now |
| 15:54.54 | fuzzybunny | ttyl l8r |
| 15:54.58 | alexbodn | good luck |
| 15:55.22 | fuzzybunny | ahh its a 20 minute install lol |
| 15:56.02 | dn4 | I am trying to stream audio from my /dev/dsp but for some reason on the server side no data is being sent, any ideas why this is happening? |
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| 15:56.44 | undesktop | which is the best free (as in speech) sans serif TTF font? |
| 15:56.47 | dn4 | my line in plays the music and I set my line in to capture and can record on audacity, but how would I send the data? |
| 15:58.27 | blondie | undesktop: that's rather an erm non-answerable question |
| 15:58.46 | undesktop | blondie: isn't it? |
| 15:59.10 | blondie | well "best" is objective |
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| 16:02.32 | DA_ | undesktop: personally i like the look of the FreeSerif FreeMono FreeSans, but its all a matter of personal preference |
| 16:02.47 | nice_lady | what is cifs? |
| 16:03.02 | pipeline | nice_lady: Windows filesharing over TCP/IP. |
| 16:03.08 | undesktop | DA_ does it look good without anti aliasing and small font sizes? |
| 16:03.24 | nice_lady | what debian package is it in? |
| 16:03.28 | redondos | nice_lady: RTFM -- Common Internet File System, a replacement for Server MEssage Block (SMB) |
| 16:03.48 | DA_ | undesktop: looks good all the time, only thing is theyve got a light color to them, so you may want to try it bold |
| 16:03.50 | pipeline | nice_lady: samba. |
| 16:04.17 | redondos | nice_lady: For mounting remote CIFS shares, you need the 'cifs' kernel module. For *creating* CIFS shares, samba. |
| 16:04.32 | nice_lady | how do I get that? |
| 16:04.39 | nice_lady | apt-get cifs? |
| 16:04.42 | pipeline | The same way you get everything else. |
| 16:04.54 | nice_lady | what is the name of the .deb package |
| 16:05.04 | undesktop | DA_: thank you, I'll try them |
| 16:05.19 | DA_ | nice_lady: you can also use apt-cache search <keywords> to search for packages |
| 16:05.22 | infernix | nice_lady: google > samba howto; apt-get install samba smbfs; modprobe cifs |
| 16:05.44 | redondos | nice_lady: You probably already have it in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs/cifs |
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| 16:06.02 | pipeline | nice_lady: You seem to lack understanding of the fundamentals. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html |
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| 16:07.06 | nice_lady | modprobe: Can't locate module cifs |
| 16:07.28 | JohnRobert | anyone know where I can find the startup script which initialises the various terminals (virtual terminals?) |
| 16:07.54 | infernix | nice_lady: install a 2.6 kernel image. |
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| 16:09.32 | nice_lady | i'm scared |
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| 16:09.36 | nice_lady | :( |
| 16:09.41 | cast | lol. |
| 16:09.42 | infernix | get someone to hold your hand |
| 16:10.14 | DA_ | nice_lady: dont be afraid, apt is your friend |
| 16:10.40 | nice_lady | apt-cache 2.6 kernel ? |
| 16:10.48 | DA_ | nice_lady: apt-cache search |
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| 16:11.30 | DA_ | try this: apt-cache search kernel|grep 2.6|less |
| 16:11.59 | DA_ | find the image that fits your cpu and apt-get install it |
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| 16:12.35 | cast | if nice_lady has less |
| 16:13.08 | cast | [annoying!, less > more, but no less in default install] |
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| 16:14.44 | DA_ | i hate more with a passion |
| 16:14.54 | DA_ | cant even go up... |
| 16:15.02 | raz0 | cast, That's deeply confusing out of context. ^^ |
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| 16:16.44 | amphi | DA_: use most ;) |
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| 16:17.59 | derek_ | Hi |
| 16:18.32 | Knorrie | heya... what's the command to create system info about a package i want to file a bug on, like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18624 |
| 16:18.55 | clintsnet | hey cast, I am really please with this.. testing/unstable etch.. it actually has alot better support I can tell already for laptops.. as I see with the resolution being put in option during config |
| 16:19.10 | cast | good good |
| 16:19.16 | clintsnet | and the install, is alot faster |
| 16:19.26 | infernix | Knorrie: apt-get install reportbug |
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| 16:19.29 | clintsnet | well, I did the xfs as well, so things are really smokin.. and I"m smiling so far |
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| 16:19.49 | itchi | Hello everyone |
| 16:20.06 | clintsnet | oh.. so there using lilo now |
| 16:20.14 | AfterDeath | hi itchi |
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| 16:21.13 | Knorrie | infernix: /me reads man reportbug... i want to fup to an existing bug... i wondered how to generate that part of the information about a package |
| 16:21.51 | infernix | Knorrie: just run it |
| 16:21.55 | clintsnet | hm.. now debian is using lilo.. heh.. sure taking alot longer to load boot loader.. I guess I"ll just have to change that :) |
| 16:22.17 | clintsnet | oh nm, it was going through a check, but I"ll see that later |
| 16:23.05 | clintsnet | oh my gosh |
| 16:23.09 | clintsnet | I am heaven right now |
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| 16:23.39 | clintsnet | my touchpad, and resolution seems like its going be a blaze |
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| 16:24.12 | clintsnet | hey cast.. my point and click is working like a charm.. I think now to set the .. resolution for 1280x800, I probably want ot reconfigure, I guess.. debian testin/unstable is using xorg now |
| 16:24.14 | kanker | hi, i need help setting up a pppoe adsl connection. to install debian with netinst |
| 16:24.31 | Knorrie | infernix: nice tool :) |
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| 16:24.50 | kanker | ive been googling and it mostly says to setup connection with pppoeconf which i dont have |
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| 16:25.13 | clintsnet | hey guys, I am so happy I went back to debian |
| 16:25.16 | earamsey | it worked! |
| 16:25.22 | clintsnet | 4 is going to be awesome |
| 16:25.32 | earamsey | i was scared but it actually worked! |
| 16:25.35 | Zaib | guys what is " bootcd" ? |
| 16:25.49 | earamsey | i'm nice_lady |
| 16:25.52 | clintsnet | boot cd, is a cd with a bootable image on it |
| 16:25.57 | blondie | a CD you boot from, Zaib |
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| 16:26.08 | Zaib | naa amin its a package |
| 16:26.17 | infernix | !info bootcd |
| 16:26.21 | dpkg | bootcd: (run your system from cd without need for disks), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.53 (sid), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 224 kB |
| 16:26.22 | itchi | Is there somethings similar as 'kcron' for gnome? |
| 16:26.23 | Zaib | wid the name BOOTCD hv anyone use it before |
| 16:26.28 | nice_lady | :) |
| 16:26.50 | clintsnet | hey cast.. this debian install I did. is working so dang fast.. xfs is so awesome |
| 16:27.12 | blondie | cast? |
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| 16:27.17 | blondie | oh |
| 16:27.19 | blondie | nm |
| 16:27.25 | kanker | anyone? |
| 16:27.39 | clintsnet | holy heck |
| 16:27.45 | clintsnet | this chit is so dam fast lmao |
| 16:27.48 | blondie | kanker: don't know if that's possible |
| 16:28.02 | kanker | what? setting up connection or...? |
| 16:28.24 | infernix | kanker: apt-cache search pppoe; you probably need to install a package for it. and i think it also needs kernel support |
| 16:28.30 | nice_lady | how do I put; mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/Companies /mnt/Companies , in /etc/fstab? |
| 16:28.50 | kanker | k gonna try. thx |
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| 16:30.29 | itchi | nice_lady: With an editor as root user |
| 16:30.47 | nice_lady | what are the entries I use? |
| 16:31.01 | infernix | nice_lady: //192.168.0.1/Companies /mnt/Companies cifs username=USERNAMEHERE,password,uid=LINUXUSERHERE,gid=LINUXGROUPHERE,umask=007 |
| 16:31.04 | itchi | nice_lady: Or as root echo "mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/Companies /mnt/Companies" >> /etc/fstab |
| 16:31.06 | infernix | probably want to change the umask |
| 16:31.34 | infernix | and drop username= and password if its a guest share |
| 16:31.45 | cast | hmm, how does one add a user to a group? i've been going usermod -G all,other,groups,they're,in,plusnewone |
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| 16:31.49 | itchi | yup, without verifing the validity of what you wanted to add in the /etc/fstab like that was not the questinn :-p |
| 16:31.58 | cast | or i can just add /etc/groups directly, |
| 16:32.01 | infernix | cast: adduser [user] [group] |
| 16:32.07 | cast | ahh, cool |
| 16:32.27 | cast | i knew there should be a better way :) |
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| 16:33.55 | Knorrie | infernix: thanks, that was all i was looking for |
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| 16:37.50 | espectro | hey guys i have an amd64 but i am using the 32 bit version. if i put amd64 as processor when compiling my own kernel will it be 64 bit or 32 bit? |
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| 16:41.00 | Maquiavelo | Hi guys, is there an application in Debian that lets me record the screen on a video? |
| 16:42.37 | espectro | there's vnc2swf i think |
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| 16:48.34 | Tallu | !alsa |
| 16:48.35 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/, or see <alsa one-liner> |
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| 16:51.24 | rshakin | !naim |
| 16:51.25 | dpkg | naim is, like, a console (ncurses) AIM clone that uses the faim library. |
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| 16:54.08 | cast | anyone else ran into 'fusermount: mount failed: Invalid argument' with sshfs and a backports.org 2.6 kernel? |
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| 16:57.55 | Tallu | Could anyone recommend a decent media player? i've only used debian from the console before so I havent really had the need for one :) Now I installed it on my main computer to use and got rid of windows for good |
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| 16:58.07 | clintsnet | vlc |
| 16:58.11 | cast | video or sound or both? |
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| 16:58.15 | Xenguy | Tallu: vlc is worth a look |
| 16:58.18 | Tallu | cast: both |
| 16:58.21 | cast | cplay is good for mp3/vorbis |
| 16:58.29 | Tallu | clintsnet, Xenguy, i'll give it a look :) |
| 16:58.30 | Tallu | cast: okay |
| 16:58.48 | clintsnet | vlc supports a large range of formats for all kindsof videos, you can even stream, input urls, etc |
| 16:59.03 | clintsnet | --> http://www.videolan.org |
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| 16:59.11 | clintsnet | videolan is actually what its called |
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| 16:59.31 | cutepinkbunnies | I'd just like to announce I succesfully 1. Installed an OS 2. Configured a gateway 3. Configured a firewall and 4. Configured a transparent proxy in 10 MINUTES thanks to linux (and this means something coming from a MS guy) |
| 16:59.31 | Tallu | clintsnet: ok thanks |
| 16:59.50 | cutepinkbunnies | so thank you guys for helping me out |
| 17:00.12 | cutepinkbunnies | I forget who helped me find my DG on my previous install |
| 17:00.14 | cutepinkbunnies | but thank you |
| 17:00.17 | clintsnet | right now I"ve just got my newest, testing/unstable debian installed, and I"m having a blast with it. my hardware detection for laptop was alot better, install was fast. and it was the net install, only have 1.5 mb down. but thats my friends network, who I stayin with temp, College will pick up though, did a custom xfs, and its blazin |
| 17:00.43 | clintsnet | I can't wait to get VMware Workstation 5.5 installed, and see how fast it responds, I bet it will blow my socks off compared to that of working with ubuntu |
| 17:01.03 | clintsnet | yeah not a problem. anytime.. |
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| 17:01.33 | clintsnet | videolan is 1 of my favorite video players ever, and streamers, when I get the faster speed.. and Fiber Optics from College, I"m going run a web server and vlc server |
| 17:01.58 | darknessofevil | guys... i know this is gonna start a war but... what's better for my server... gentoo or debian? |
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| 17:02.07 | clintsnet | lol |
| 17:02.12 | clintsnet | no comment |
| 17:02.16 | clintsnet | just do a debian , xfs |
| 17:02.29 | darknessofevil | xfs, i dont like because if my power goes out i have data loss |
| 17:02.37 | clintsnet | gentoo.. eh.. I tried my days with that, its alot of configuratin |
| 17:02.43 | clintsnet | not truely |
| 17:02.52 | Tallu | for a server, your power shouldnt go out :P get ups |
| 17:02.53 | darknessofevil | yea its a 233mhz proc |
| 17:02.54 | clintsnet | that could happen with anything |
| 17:02.59 | fooxi | hi guys, has anyone worked with lvm with different oses? im planning on dual booting sarge and sid. is it possible to use the same lvm volumes between them? |
| 17:03.01 | darknessofevil | hey its running out of my house |
| 17:03.05 | darknessofevil | on my cable connection, for fun |
| 17:03.09 | Xenguy | darknessofevil: pretty clearly, old/stable is better for a production server, so you do the math :-) |
| 17:03.20 | darknessofevil | i see |
| 17:03.26 | darknessofevil | i may have to change it |
| 17:03.31 | darknessofevil | btw i own nixgeek.net |
| 17:03.38 | darknessofevil | that's gonna be my server once i get it conf'ed |
| 17:03.49 | clintsnet | thats why if your running a server, you want ot have an interruptible power supply |
| 17:05.12 | Tallu | I wouldnt run any server without a ups |
| 17:05.27 | rue_house | "you want ot have an interruptible power supply" |
| 17:05.29 | clintsnet | I wo'nt down it. I know this guy, he claims gentoo is the best.. well maybe for advanced users. but its like trying to learn , a whole different package management system, it has FreeBSD ports.. but I sound wasn't even detected off install nor was proper video. but that is like that for alot of things. but then again ,servers don't need gui's , |
| 17:05.30 | itchi | cast: it's splay |
| 17:05.39 | rue_house | the 'u' starts for uninterruptable |
| 17:05.42 | clintsnet | but you could always run a fluxbox as well |
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| 17:06.00 | rue_house | but if its a windows server, you want to have it restarting as often as possable to keep it going |
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| 17:06.49 | Inty^ | euuuuuuwwwwww, windows for a server, or even windows in general, makes me gag and puke |
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| 17:08.41 | itchi | Inty^: What is windows?? :-p |
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| 17:08.47 | Inty^ | indeed |
| 17:08.50 | Inty^ | winblows |
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| 17:09.53 | rue_house | windows is a software package that is advertized to managers of companies as the only safe software to run in ther organization, they pay a lot for it, and liscences, and training for their employees, and wages for their trained employees |
| 17:10.21 | itchi | robin_sz: Is a bit like KDE or Gnome if you want, but many many lighter :-) |
| 17:11.36 | robin_sz | kde is a collection of apps isnt it? kword, kmail, k<something else> ... gnome is a version of X? not really the same thing are they? |
| 17:11.42 | itchi | rue_house: Just try to say somethings like 'That diabolice M$ windows ...' Like windows is (NO tm) at my eyes and most of here too. window hehe |
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| 17:12.13 | rue_house | kde and gnome are compeditors |
| 17:12.17 | Inty^ | robin_sz, KDE and gnome are both windows managers, with some of their own apps |
| 17:12.25 | rue_house | they are interface libraries |
| 17:12.35 | rue_house | for things liek menus and buttons, and stuff |
| 17:12.42 | rue_house | that applications are made with |
| 17:12.49 | rue_house | (someone correct me if I'm wrong) |
| 17:12.56 | robin_sz | sounds wrong ... |
| 17:13.13 | Eulex | Inty^, false. |
| 17:13.33 | rue_house | enlightenment is a window manager |
| 17:13.40 | rue_house | like blackbox and ratpoison |
| 17:13.42 | itchi | Desktop environment is it |
| 17:13.51 | robin_sz | now I am confused :) |
| 17:13.57 | rue_house | you ought be |
| 17:13.59 | Eulex | rue_house, false too. (that is, about kde and gnome being interface libraries) |
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| 17:14.06 | robin_sz | do I have a window manager? |
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| 17:14.25 | robin_sz | its the thing that allows you to open and close windwos, drag them around right? |
| 17:14.28 | rue_house | robin_sz, can you move or resize windows in X? |
| 17:14.38 | itchi | rue_house: Why not?? |
| 17:14.44 | robin_sz | seems so, so I guess I must have ,,, |
| 17:15.02 | itchi | eat time :-p |
| 17:15.04 | rue_house | those are things a window manager lets you do |
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| 17:15.12 | Eulex | robin_sz, no, it's the thing that gives you a window border around windows, and yes, enabled you to drag them around, resize them and some other stuff |
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| 17:15.21 | robin_sz | the window manager provides the little X inthe corner of each app and the maximise/minimiser icons right? |
| 17:15.32 | rue_house | you know when you dont have a window manager because all apps are jammed in the top left of the screen with no way to move them or anything |
| 17:15.48 | rue_house | that one thing, yes |
| 17:15.48 | Eulex | robin_sz, no, the whole border around the windows (sometimes called window decorations) |
| 17:15.52 | robin_sz | right, .. hardly anything to get worked up about then ... they are all the same surely? |
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| 17:16.20 | rue_house | maybe it was called fluxbox... anyhow |
| 17:16.29 | Eulex | robin_sz, umh, which are all the same? |
| 17:16.39 | blondie | how can I find out what boot thingy I'm using (lilo etc)? |
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| 17:17.02 | rue_house | blondie, do you have a file called /etc/lilo.conf? |
| 17:17.06 | Inty^ | robin_sz, they are not all the same, fluxbox is lighter and easier with RAM than KDE and gnome, but KDE and GNOME are prettier |
| 17:17.08 | blondie | rue_house: no |
| 17:17.09 | Tallu | Yeah, vlc looks very nice :) Now just to figure out how to get it to play from console properly :) |
| 17:17.14 | robin_sz | Eulex, window managers .. they are just presumably different implentations of the code to drag, minimise and maximise a window ... |
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| 17:17.38 | robin_sz | seems like not a thing to worry about much then |
| 17:17.40 | blondie | rue_house: but I don't have a grub config file either |
| 17:17.40 | rindolf | I added a new group to /etc/group, but newgrp and sg don't see it. I'm using Debian Sarge. |
| 17:17.41 | rue_house | blondie, do you have a directory called /boot/menu ? |
| 17:17.45 | blondie | rue_house: no |
| 17:17.58 | rue_house | when it boots does it say 'grub' or 'lilo' ? |
| 17:18.10 | blondie | neither... this is on an xbox x.x |
| 17:18.15 | Inty^ | :o |
| 17:18.20 | Inty^ | the xbox linux project |
| 17:18.21 | Inty^ | :P |
| 17:18.30 | rue_house | well, you dont have to have a bootloader |
| 17:18.31 | Eulex | robin_sz, well, those are the basic feature they can have. then they can have more features, like action keyboard shortcuts, how they do window placing, whether they provide tabs, and they might provide a composite manager. |
| 17:18.37 | rue_house | if you have a pre 2.6 kernel |
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| 17:18.52 | Juerd | moo :) |
| 17:18.59 | streuner | remove lilo, if you cannot boot you used lilo..., else you use grub :-) |
| 17:19.05 | rue_house | Juerd, your mooing again |
| 17:19.06 | robin_sz | Eulex, I dont think Id use any of those .. so perhaps its just not an important thing for me ... |
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| 17:19.14 | blondie | grrr ntpdate on testing is not installable :( |
| 17:19.19 | Juerd | rue_house: moo? |
| 17:19.24 | Inty^ | :p |
| 17:19.32 | Juerd | streuner: If lilo doesn't work, in 99% of all times, it's because people didn't run lilo after upgrading lilo. |
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| 17:19.57 | Juerd | LILO is a great program, but often used wrong. Don't FUD people into GRUB, but let people make a right choice based on real arguments. |
| 17:20.09 | robin_sz | Eulex, probably a bit like desktop icons and those menus that you can drop down with list of aplications and stuff .. they are just something I dont see a need for. |
| 17:20.20 | rue_house | I'v had one hell of a lot easier time with lilo than grub |
| 17:20.31 | rue_house | 95% of the time I cant get grub to install |
| 17:20.39 | Juerd | The best trick in my book is to make the /boot volume read-only. |
| 17:20.47 | Eulex | Inty^, you're comparing apples to oranges. kde and gnome are desktop environments, while fluxbox is a window manager. you might be thinking of kwin and metacity, which are the window managers of kde and gnome, respectively |
| 17:20.50 | rue_house | and it dosn't handle boot errors well |
| 17:21.08 | blondie | rue_house: actually... i'm being dumb, it has to boot initially from CD then load the OS from harddisk |
| 17:21.31 | rue_house | it could be a raw kernel then |
| 17:21.37 | rue_house | whats uname -a say? |
| 17:21.42 | Juerd | rue_house: There are some tricks to get it to install. Easiest: mkdir /boot/grub; cp /lib/grub/i386thingy/* /boot/grub; grub # root (hd0,0) # setup (hd0) |
| 17:22.11 | Eulex | robin_sz, desktop icons and menus are usually not provided by the window manager, but by other programs. also, you most surely have used the window placing feature in a window manager. it defines where to place a window if the application doesn't request a special place to be placed at -- which is very common. different window managers do this in different ways. |
| 17:22.18 | rue_house | Juerd, most of the time it would boot from a menu, where it would refuse to go anywhere else |
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| 17:22.32 | Juerd | Eulex: KDE and Grub present themselves as monolithic systems. You can't blame people for being ignorant about the internals :) |
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| 17:22.51 | Juerd | rue_house: Interesting. I haven't had that. |
| 17:23.02 | Eulex | Juerd, eh? grub is monolithic? |
| 17:23.23 | Belle | hello! |
| 17:23.28 | Eulex | robin_sz, oh, and one feature think I think you might be using: the alt-tab feature in the window manager. |
| 17:23.29 | rindolf | I added a new group to /etc/group, but newgrp and sg don't see it. I'm using Debian Sarge. |
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| 17:23.39 | Juerd | Eulex: Eek. I meant GNOME, not Grub, in that sentence. |
| 17:23.42 | robin_sz | Eulex, alt-tab? |
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| 17:23.53 | Eulex | Juerd, oh, ok :) |
| 17:24.06 | Juerd | And no, KDE and Grub *aren't* monolithic, but they do try to present a single consistent system to end users. (And fail at that.) |
| 17:24.07 | blondie | fuck this |
| 17:24.29 | Inty^ | haha |
| 17:24.32 | Inty^ | true true |
| 17:24.34 | Eulex | robin_sz, alt-tab usually cycles between windows |
| 17:24.35 | Juerd | rindolf: Is that a problem? |
| 17:24.53 | rindolf | Juerd: I want the group added. |
| 17:25.10 | Gracana | I'm having a problem with gnome-volume-control (or maybe it's a problem with ALSA?) where my sound settings are reset on boot (all channels muted/zeroed). What can I do to fix that? |
| 17:25.11 | Eulex | rindolf, umh, did you edit /etc/group by hand? |
| 17:25.13 | Juerd | rindolf: I see. Did you use a new unique group id? |
| 17:25.26 | robin_sz | Eulex, .. ahh, ok, I just tried .. it does. I suppose it might be useful if your mouse broke mid session or something |
| 17:25.27 | Juerd | Eulex: On vanilla systems, that should work. |
| 17:25.40 | rindolf | Eulex: yes. |
| 17:25.43 | rindolf | Juerd: yes. |
| 17:25.54 | Juerd | rindolf: Is the group name valid? |
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| 17:26.09 | Juerd | rindolf: Did you relogin? |
| 17:26.10 | rindolf | Juerd: yes, it's "webwork" |
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| 17:26.17 | rindolf | Juerd: relogin? |
| 17:26.36 | Juerd | rindolf: Yes. |
| 17:26.36 | rindolf | Juerd: I'm using ssh. |
| 17:26.36 | Juerd | rindolf: Logout, login. |
| 17:26.37 | rindolf | Juerd: OK. |
| 17:26.54 | Eulex | robin_sz, well, I don't think you understand the concept of keyboard shortcuts. they are there to make work faster. instead of moving your mouse and clicking, you just press the key combination needed. |
| 17:26.58 | rindolf | # sg webwork |
| 17:26.58 | rindolf | unknown group: webwork |
| 17:27.15 | Juerd | rindolf: grep webwork /etc/group |
| 17:27.22 | Eulex | rindolf, why don't use the command addgroup to add the group? |
| 17:27.47 | robin_sz | Eulex, sounds slower rather than faster to me ... but, what ever, I am probably atypical of linux users |
| 17:28.08 | Juerd | Eulex: I'll guess: because it's more work to read the manual than to do something that also works and requires you to only know how to use your editor. |
| 17:28.21 | Juerd | That for me is the reason to edit /etc/group directly :) |
| 17:28.48 | robin_sz | Eulex, I tend to run with an xterm, and just type the name of the application I want to run ... I dont *think* ive ever used any of those menu things you can drop down .. I dod look through them once, just to see what was in there .. |
| 17:28.49 | Eulex | robin_sz & Juerd, well, I guess everyone has their preferences |
| 17:29.24 | Eulex | robin_sz, I use a panel plugin that puts a command line in my panel to do that, btw |
| 17:29.39 | rindolf | Juerd: webwork:107:amit,choo,shlomif,... |
| 17:29.43 | rindolf | Eulex: wasn't aware of it. |
| 17:29.46 | rindolf | And old habits. |
| 17:29.48 | Juerd | rindolf: How many users are in there? |
| 17:29.50 | robin_sz | whats a panel? |
| 17:29.51 | rindolf | I could I suppose. |
| 17:30.00 | rindolf | Juerd: 7 |
| 17:30.01 | Juerd | rindolf: grep -c :107: /etc/group # just to be sure :) |
| 17:30.24 | Juerd | rindolf: Then I have no idea, sorry. |
| 17:30.25 | Eulex | robin_sz, those bars that you've usually got on the top and/or bottom of your screen. |
| 17:30.37 | robin_sz | ahh, the taskbar? |
| 17:30.55 | Juerd | robin_sz: Screen real estate fillers, docked at screen edges. |
| 17:30.57 | Eulex | robin_sz, well, that's one of the panels. if you're using gnome, the other panel would be at the top of the screen. |
| 17:31.01 | rindolf | Juerd: already grepped, it's OK. |
| 17:31.13 | robin_sz | right |
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| 17:31.16 | Juerd | I use alt+F2 (KDE) to start programs. |
| 17:31.30 | Juerd | alt+F2, firefox, enter is much faster than moving a hand to the pointing device. |
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| 17:31.42 | Juerd | I could assign a keyboard shortcut, but then I'd have to remember it. |
| 17:31.59 | Juerd | And I couldn't use it on other computers, where I'd be annoyed by the impossibility. |
| 17:32.26 | robin_sz | ahh, yes alt-f2 does pop somehting upp .. coo. I'll never remeber all thses things .. are they written down anywhere? |
| 17:32.53 | Eulex | Juerd, personally I use ctrl + alt + one character for command shortcuts for applications. I'd probably assign ctrl-alt-f for firefox if I had a shortcut for that one. |
| 17:33.10 | Eulex | robin_sz, look in the gnome control panel, those should be listed (and modifiable) somewhere in there |
| 17:33.10 | Juerd | robin_sz: I have no idea. I used KDE since version 1.x, and don't remember when I first learned about this. |
| 17:33.25 | Juerd | Eulex: I keep firefox open :) |
| 17:33.27 | rindolf | Hmmm... I hope it's not a rootkit. |
| 17:33.32 | Eulex | Juerd, as do I. |
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| 17:33.37 | Juerd | rindolf: apt-get install chkrootkit |
| 17:33.53 | Eulex | robin_sz, no idea where in the control the keyboard shortcuts would be, though. I don't use gnome, I use xfce. |
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| 17:34.39 | robin_sz | where is the "gnome control panel" then? |
| 17:34.45 | rindolf | OK, after I ran addgroup it worked. |
| 17:35.02 | clintsnet | cast |
| 17:35.18 | robin_sz | ok, found gnome-control-centre as an app, thats probably it |
| 17:35.22 | cast | dyes? |
| 17:35.25 | cast | -d |
| 17:35.28 | Stormy | How can I inject certain modules into the debian install without having to rebuild the whole cd? I just need 3 modules that are in the installed stock kernel to be in the installing kernel so my raid array can be seen |
| 17:35.37 | clintsnet | shouldn't debian etc testing/unstable etc.. be.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because thats what I see , in dpkg -l |
| 17:35.45 | Eulex | robin_sz, you'd probably find it somewhere in the menus... |
| 17:35.52 | Juerd | Stormy: "modprobe foo", where foo is the module name. |
| 17:35.58 | Stormy | i've done all that |
| 17:36.04 | Stormy | when it gets to initrd time it borks |
| 17:36.10 | Stormy | saying something about a mismatch |
| 17:36.13 | Juerd | Stormy: Then perhaps you could let us know what *exactly* goes wrong. |
| 17:36.18 | Juerd | "something about" isn't specific enough |
| 17:36.19 | Stormy | one second |
| 17:36.28 | Stormy | i've got the machine running right here |
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| 17:37.00 | robin_sz | Eulex, well, I never knew that stuff was in there ... never needed it before ... |
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| 17:37.19 | robin_sz | Eulex, but ive only been using Linux for 7 years or so ... |
| 17:39.51 | Stormy | If I copy the modules from an existing install that uses the same kernel verson ( 2.6.8-2 i believe ) and then insmod them they do load, and the partitioner is able to see my disk and install 90% of the base system. When it comes to installing the kernel image and initrd It is when it borks, it's running right now give it about 3 minutes and i should have a more descriptive answer |
| 17:41.07 | Eulex | Stormy, would a 2.6.15 or 2.6.16 contain those modules you need by default? |
| 17:41.56 | Stormy | the 2.6.8-2 when installed to the hard drive does, and they work fine, it's the install cd that doesn't have them in it's module directory by default |
| 17:42.11 | Eulex | heh, that's strange |
| 17:42.15 | Stormy | i2o_core i2o_proc i2o_block |
| 17:42.19 | Stormy | 3 simple modules |
| 17:42.28 | roxy_ | I can't set up radrails-eclipse with the debian rails package. It doesn't recognise /usr/share/rails as the rails dir. Anyone manage to set it up ? |
| 17:42.29 | Stormy | for talking to adaptec and intel and some lsi raid controllers |
| 17:42.34 | Eulex | you could try the following: |
| 17:42.38 | Eulex | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 17:42.38 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 17:42.52 | Stormy | i've got to get it installed first |
| 17:42.55 | Stormy | oh |
| 17:42.55 | Stormy | ok |
| 17:42.56 | Eulex | the one at http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm, that is |
| 17:43.07 | Stormy | yea i missed that little part |
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| 17:43.14 | Stormy | the problem is i don't have any blanks there all at work |
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| 17:43.18 | Stormy | i've only got sarge and etch |
| 17:43.22 | Stormy | install cd's here |
| 17:44.03 | Eulex | oh, well, did you try the etch cds? (assuming that you would want to run etch...) |
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| 17:50.19 | mmiikkee12 | how unstable is debian unstable? like unusable or just something breaks every once in a while? |
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| 17:57.54 | wireddd | miikkee12, unstable is usually fairly broken |
| 17:58.13 | wireddd | testing is where things break every once an a while |
| 17:58.19 | mmiikkee12 | hmm, is testing fairly up to date? |
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| 17:58.38 | wireddd | testing is usually pretty up to date |
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| 17:59.22 | wireddd | I use testing on my desktop, and stable on my servers |
| 18:00.28 | mmiikkee12 | hmm. what gnome version in there? |
| 18:01.19 | falap | I switched back to Debian. i mean.. I tried to install Xubuntu into this p200mmx machines but the installers always froze halfway. |
| 18:01.34 | falap | p200mmx-machine |
| 18:01.54 | Tallu | I just got rid of my 233mhz machine :) |
| 18:02.05 | Tallu | cpu MHz: 1472.117 |
| 18:02.38 | falap | my other desktop machine is a 1GHz Pentium III |
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| 18:03.20 | wireddd | mmikkee12, I am not sure, I don't use gnome |
| 18:03.21 | Tallu | My other machine is a 3700+ |
| 18:03.44 | falap | i have to run Windows in the Pentium III machine :( it's the only option for having many music creation applications. |
| 18:05.03 | falap | I was excited about xfce. but it looks quite different on Debian comparing to Xubuntu. |
| 18:05.31 | wireddd | mmiikkee12, it looks like testing has gnome 2.12 |
| 18:05.38 | mmiikkee12 | :/ |
| 18:05.41 | Juerd | mmiikkee12: I run "unstable" (I prefer to call it sid) on several dozen production systems. |
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| 18:06.04 | mmiikkee12 | i have 2.14.2 on foresight |
| 18:06.05 | stew | falap: what kind of music creation software? there are some decent applications for linux these days |
| 18:06.09 | Juerd | mmiikkee12: If you know what you're doing, and keep your system clean and update regularly (!!), it's fairly stable. |
| 18:06.47 | blondie | doesn't openssh client put the hostname/ip address in known_hosts anymore? |
| 18:07.02 | falap | stew: well. many great software synthesizers for example. |
| 18:07.07 | Juerd | mmiikkee12: If you want a desktop system that's fairly up-to-date but very stable, try Ubuntu. |
| 18:07.33 | Juerd | It's synched (more or less) with Debian Sid every 6 months or so |
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| 18:08.42 | stew | falap: yeah there aren't many software synths, there's timidity |
| 18:09.01 | stoned | good morning |
| 18:09.15 | stoned | pmidi too no? |
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| 18:09.52 | falap | stew: i wish i could code. something like Reason would be a great thing if it would be available for Linux. |
| 18:10.30 | stoned | falap, I have a linux based studio, somewhat.. what are you looking to do? |
| 18:10.34 | Hotwired | hi, is at all possible to convert a ubuntu system to debian without any formatting of drives? |
| 18:10.51 | stoned | Hotwired, not that I am aware of |
| 18:11.10 | Hotwired | shame, putting 40 gig on cds isn't going to be fun |
| 18:11.17 | CHodapp | stew, aren't many software synths? |
| 18:11.25 | mmiikkee12 | Hotwired, (warning, i'm not responsible for any damage blah blah blah) switch to all debian repos and update everything? |
| 18:11.33 | stoned | hotwired, you can buy a 40gb HDD for less than 20-30$ now a days |
| 18:11.37 | CHodapp | falap, you can talk in #lad about that |
| 18:11.40 | alindeman | Where can I set systemwide $PATH ? |
| 18:11.56 | stoned | Hotwired, 250gb ide disk is like 89$ |
| 18:11.58 | mmiikkee12 | alindeman, /etc(/bash?)/bashrc |
| 18:11.59 | stoned | at least where I live |
| 18:12.06 | falap | stoned: i'm not sure yet. i've been playing around with software synths and made some music loops. |
| 18:12.11 | mmiikkee12 | stoned, he said cds |
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| 18:12.20 | Hotwired | i'm British + poor i'm afraid |
| 18:12.25 | stoned | mmiikkee12, yes, I read.. but an HDD backup is easier than cds |
| 18:12.28 | falap | CHodapp: thanks. |
| 18:12.29 | mmiikkee12 | oh |
| 18:12.40 | wireddd | Hotwired, what exactly do you need to backup? |
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| 18:12.52 | stoned | Hotwired, well what does being British have to do with it? |
| 18:12.54 | stoned | ;) |
| 18:13.13 | Hotwired | mmiikkee12, how much damage is that likely to cause, (i'm running 64 bit kernel as well, and i know deb stable doesn't offically support that) |
| 18:13.30 | Hotwired | stoned, drives cost more over here |
| 18:13.33 | mmiikkee12 | Hotwired, i don't know, i've never done it |
| 18:13.41 | stoned | Hotwired, goddamn the Queen |
| 18:13.47 | Hotwired | hehe |
| 18:13.58 | stoned | Booyakasha! |
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| 18:14.11 | Hotwired | wireddd, mainly music + setting + games |
| 18:14.16 | stoned | Hotwired, where is your /home? |
| 18:14.32 | Hotwired | stoned, same partittion :S |
| 18:14.37 | stoned | Hotwired, you didnt' make a seperate parition for /home!!!! |
| 18:14.44 | stoned | Hotwired, you deserve to go through shit now |
| 18:14.44 | stoned | ;) |
| 18:14.47 | Hotwired | i know |
| 18:14.51 | stoned | j/k man |
| 18:15.02 | wireddd | Hotwired, next time put home on a seperate partition |
| 18:15.06 | stoned | can you like buy a drive, use it, and then return it? |
| 18:15.15 | Hotwired | its ubuntu fault though, that is the default setting |
| 18:15.17 | stoned | Hotwired, you have ANY used PC parts store around? |
| 18:15.44 | Hotwired | umm, thinking about it i have an old pc next to me# |
| 18:15.46 | wireddd | Hotwired, do you know anyone who will let you borrow their computer for a day? |
| 18:15.58 | Hotwired | but i think the reason i stopped using it was HDD error |
| 18:16.29 | stoned | I have 250gb 2 stats2 drives, 140gb ide, and 160gb ide |
| 18:16.45 | stoned | I have like 60~ gb remaining |
| 18:16.50 | Hotwired | thanks for the help, i think i'm going to try ripping this old pc apart to see what happens |
| 18:17.17 | itchi | stoned: look like you have money? :-p |
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| 18:17.50 | row | Anyone know of a good pdf to chm converter? |
| 18:17.53 | stoned | my folks are doctors dude |
| 18:17.58 | stoned | I don't have shit, I use their money |
| 18:17.59 | stoned | ;) |
| 18:18.00 | wireddd | I think I have almost 2 tbs worth of drives now |
| 18:18.07 | blondie | wireddd: tiny |
| 18:18.17 | itchi | stoned: lol, my folks suck to get a bit money :-/ |
| 18:18.31 | blondie | itchi: English? |
| 18:19.06 | itchi | blondie: You have already tell how you are. Good you are frank |
| 18:19.32 | stoned | dude |
| 18:19.37 | stoned | I grew up in westbury |
| 18:19.44 | stoned | and in southyorkshire scotland |
| 18:19.47 | stoned | my dad is scottish |
| 18:20.15 | stoned | I'm aware of the 'mieser' mentality |
| 18:20.19 | wireddd | TGPO, I recomend doing something besides watching it |
| 18:20.22 | blondie | itchi: speak English |
| 18:20.23 | stoned | however you s pell that |
| 18:20.43 | TGPO | I have been. 3 TV shows and a pot of coffee later |
| 18:20.56 | blondie | stoned: south yorkshire isn't in scotland, it's in england |
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| 18:21.12 | itchi | blondie: I still learn it, an not borrow me, you did already engouht! |
| 18:21.14 | TGPO | oh well, more coffee is in order I guess |
| 18:21.15 | asg | blondie: close enough |
| 18:21.54 | blondie | !confuse itchi |
| 18:21.54 | dpkg | No, who are your pants today, itchi? pants of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra ham |
| 18:21.57 | blondie | :P |
| 18:22.27 | itchi | blondie: You are realy realy an sad guy! man. Realy not happy, usefull with people, there is already war enought! |
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| 18:22.44 | TGPO | and more to come |
| 18:22.54 | roym | folks, where can I find 2.6 kernel sources for etch? |
| 18:23.03 | stoned | blondie, its a suburb |
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| 18:23.15 | stoned | blondie, 20miles south of edinburgh |
| 18:23.17 | TGPO | etch is running 2.6.15 what are you looking for? |
| 18:23.36 | roym | TGP0: yes, I only see 2.4 sources listed. |
| 18:23.36 | stoned | blondie, I lived there when I was very young, its more like an upperclass housing society |
| 18:23.49 | TGPO | try sid |
| 18:24.00 | stew | !info linux-source-2.6.16 etch |
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| 18:24.06 | stew | !info linux-source-2.6.15 etch |
| 18:24.06 | stoned | TGPO, please do not suggest the use of sid for people |
| 18:24.12 | dpkg | linux-source-2.6.16: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.16 with Debian patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.16-17 (etch), Packaged size: 39279 kB, Installed size: 39376 kB |
| 18:24.14 | dpkg | linux-source-2.6.15: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Debian patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.15-8 (etch), Packaged size: 38404 kB, Installed size: 38504 kB |
| 18:24.21 | stew | roym: ^^^ |
| 18:24.29 | roym | thanks, stew! |
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| 18:24.39 | TGPO | there you go |
| 18:25.18 | TGPO | I use sid when I have to, like right now to switch ecth up to 2.6.17 |
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| 18:25.41 | TGPO | otherwise your right sid is .... dangerous |
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| 18:26.16 | wireddd | I prefer to run etch with experimental packages... |
| 18:26.54 | Gracana | Is there any way to get gnome-volume-control to save its settings so they are restored on a later login? |
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| 18:27.08 | Gracana | (or: why aren't my settings saved/restored on a later login) |
| 18:27.37 | itchi | Gracana: Look to alsactl --help |
| 18:27.54 | itchi | Gracana: As root user, then do 'alsactl store' |
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| 18:28.31 | Gracana | Hm, I don't seem to have alsactl. That could be a problem. |
| 18:29.00 | itchi | Gracana: Use you alsa? I guessed that ;-) |
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| 18:29.34 | Gracana | yeah |
| 18:30.00 | Gracana | Oh wait, I do have it, I just couldn't see it as non-root. |
| 18:30.14 | itchi | Gracana: Yup, you not see it as not= |
| 18:30.21 | itchi | ggrr, as non root user |
| 18:30.57 | Gracana | So if it's stored, will it automagically restore the settings, or do I need to tell it to do that somewhere? |
| 18:31.21 | Gracana | I see there is a restore command that can be used.. |
| 18:31.29 | itchi | Gracana: It will do automatically. That's why you need to do it as root user |
| 18:31.38 | Gracana | Cool, thanks. :) |
| 18:32.02 | itchi | Gracana: No, it's hot ;-) |
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| 18:32.09 | Gracana | :P |
| 18:32.39 | mmiikkee12 | where are the unstable isos? |
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| 18:33.43 | syiron | hello ppl. i have 100 mp3 on my debian. i want to zip 100 mp3 but not on the folder. i want to zip 1 by 1 using one command. ? any can help me? |
| 18:33.46 | robin_sz | bah, so, where can I find a debian package for mldonkey |
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| 18:34.11 | mmiikkee12 | syiron, you want all the mp3s zipped separately? |
| 18:34.29 | syiron | yes. |
| 18:34.45 | mmiikkee12 | try bzip2 *.mp3 - if you don't tar it, i *think* it'd do each one separately. |
| 18:35.47 | mmiikkee12 | yeah, do bzip2 *.mp3 |
| 18:35.49 | syiron | example here i have 5 mp3 ok. mean 1.mp3 2.mp3 3.mp3 4.mp3 5.mp3 then i want to zip it to be separate it. how |
| 18:35.55 | itchi | syiron: Somethings like for i in `find . -name "*.mp3"`; do tar ac $i.gz; done |
| 18:36.04 | itchi | oeps |
| 18:36.07 | itchi | syiron: Wait |
| 18:36.09 | mmiikkee12 | itchi, you don't have to tar it |
| 18:36.17 | syiron | no no. i just want to zip |
| 18:36.18 | mmiikkee12 | bzip2 *.mp3 works fine |
| 18:36.21 | itchi | syiron: Somethings like for i in `find . -name "*.mp3"`; do tar xzf $i.gz; done |
| 18:36.27 | mmiikkee12 | no, not tar |
| 18:36.33 | mmiikkee12 | and he's not extracting either |
| 18:36.36 | Gracana | mp3 is a compression format. Compressing tar'ing or zip'ing or whatever won't make it smaller (to any useful extent). |
| 18:36.39 | itchi | mmiikkee12: He want it separetely?? |
| 18:36.45 | mmiikkee12 | itchi, yes |
| 18:36.52 | Gracana | s/Compressing // |
| 18:36.55 | mmiikkee12 | and he's compressing, not decompressing |
| 18:36.58 | itchi | mmiikkee12: Yup extracting :-) |
| 18:37.00 | itchi | !tar |
| 18:37.00 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 18:37.16 | mmiikkee12 | he's doing each mp3 separately |
| 18:37.25 | mmiikkee12 | tar will make one big file out of them |
| 18:37.44 | syiron | ok like here.. if i have 100 mp3. meaning i must typing for 100 time to zip it right |
| 18:37.55 | mmiikkee12 | syiron, no, bzip2 *.mp3 |
| 18:38.09 | mmiikkee12 | it'll do each one separately, just tested |
| 18:38.14 | itchi | syiron: No, or use an for i in ... |
| 18:38.18 | syiron | what is output i get? |
| 18:38.39 | itchi | syiron: Take 4 mp3 files, put it in an test dir and test ?? |
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| 18:38.53 | syiron | meaning here i want my mp3 have separate it. example i have 1.mp3 2.mp3 and so on by using 1 command line |
| 18:39.02 | syiron | i dont want to zip folder |
| 18:39.08 | itchi | syiron: My laptop or to slow to test it, and that crap mouse :-/ |
| 18:39.13 | mmiikkee12 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/E9h44Y39.html |
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| 18:39.22 | asg | syiron: why waste the time? As has already been said, the compression you gain will be minimal. |
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| 18:39.27 | mmiikkee12 | syiron, http://rafb.net/paste/results/E9h44Y39.html |
| 18:39.32 | syiron | wait |
| 18:39.56 | mmiikkee12 | i tested with empty .txt files |
| 18:40.04 | mmiikkee12 | but it should do the same thing for any file |
| 18:40.39 | syiron | meaning it extansion is .bz2 right |
| 18:40.53 | mmiikkee12 | .bz2 is a bzipped file |
| 18:40.53 | asg | syiron: extension is meaningless, what does file(1) say about it |
| 18:41.01 | syiron | ok |
| 18:41.03 | syiron | i understanding |
| 18:41.05 | robin_sz | ask an objective camel |
| 18:41.16 | asg | robin_sz: light, or filterless? |
| 18:41.38 | robin_sz | asg, always filter your camels! |
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| 18:42.35 | mmiikkee12 | where can i get an iso for unstable/sid? |
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| 18:42.54 | asg | mmiikkee12: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 18:43.26 | syiron | thanks a lot ppl for helping me |
| 18:43.49 | robin_sz | I dotn tink ive installed anything (knowingly) written in ocaml before ... |
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| 18:45.05 | Tallu | eh, damn it. i installed mozilla-firefox and when I try to start it in gnome, nothing happens. Nothing at all, no error message, nothing |
| 18:45.28 | asg | Tallu: then open an xterm and type 'firefox'. What error is displayed? |
| 18:46.55 | Tallu | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (firefox-bin:11279): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 18:47.19 | itchi | Tallu: Do you it on your own computer? Not remotely? |
| 18:47.20 | asg | Tallu: are you trying to run it as root or something? |
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| 18:47.40 | Tallu | just normal user and on my computer, im on it right now |
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| 18:49.18 | roym | Folks, how might I get rid of messages like: |
| 18:49.18 | roym | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 18:49.33 | itchi | Tallu: Others app working fine? |
| 18:49.40 | roym | am using etch. am I missing a package/configuration setting? |
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| 18:50.44 | Tallu | itchi: well i havent really tried anything else yet.. just installed gnome and vlc and vlc is working just fine |
| 18:52.59 | Tallu | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 18:52.59 | Tallu | Xlib: XDM authorization key matches an existing client! |
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| 18:53.06 | Tallu | But no firefox is running |
| 18:53.30 | asg | roym: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 18:53.53 | roym | asg: thanks. |
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| 18:54.29 | slew | where can i find info on installing my lexmark printer? |
| 18:54.43 | Tallu | That's weird though, cause firefox hasnt been used before and its not running |
| 18:54.45 | asg | slew: linuxprinting.org |
| 18:54.54 | asg | slew: also, cups.org |
| 18:55.10 | asg | Tallu: in the same xterm, if you type 'xterm', do you get another xterm window? |
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| 18:56.02 | Tallu | asg: yep |
| 18:56.13 | asg | odd |
| 18:56.19 | slew | asg thanks |
| 18:56.26 | asg | Tallu: if you type 'firefox' in that window, does that also product the same error? |
| 18:56.54 | Tallu | asg: yup |
| 18:57.05 | asg | Tallu: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 18:57.39 | falap | can i get a "windows start menu" like menu into the taskbar of xfce? i saw one in Xubuntu Linux installation CD's desktop. |
| 18:57.43 | Tallu | Linux xi-it.org 2.6.16-2-686 #1 Sun Jul 16 00:36:41 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:57.58 | asg | Tallu: dpkg -l | grep libc6 | tail -n1 |
| 18:58.03 | mindbob | Hey does anyone in here use grsecurity? |
| 18:58.14 | zebalin4 | General Q: Say you have program xxx-1.1. If you apt-get install xxx-1.2 and the program is broken in Sid, how do you get the previous version (1.1) that worked? Is there a repos with this? |
| 18:58.17 | asg | mindbob: probably, what's the question? |
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| 18:58.26 | asg | zebalin4: /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 18:58.28 | oliver__ | hi |
| 18:59.02 | mindbob | asg, Well no matter what i do or how i try to install it i get to the part of rebooting, and i ALWAYS get kernel panics, I have tried every way i can think of and I don't know why it keeps doing it? |
| 18:59.08 | oliver__ | i compiled a new kernel (2.6.17.6) and configured grub for booting it but, if i want to start it, grub says to me, that it is an invalid executable format |
| 18:59.21 | Tallu | asg: ii libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Hea |
| 18:59.29 | asg | mindbob: I'd consult ##kernelnewbies |
| 18:59.45 | mindbob | thanks |
| 18:59.59 | asg | Tallu: and what does 'cat /etc/debian_version' reveal? |
| 19:00.07 | syntaxx | is conky in debian sarge? i apt-cache search conky but it didnt show anything |
| 19:00.12 | asg | !info libc6 etch |
| 19:00.17 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-15 (etch), Packaged size: 4620 kB, Installed size: 11168 kB |
| 19:00.38 | Tallu | asg: 3.1 |
| 19:00.40 | asg | Tallu: where did you get that kernel? It isn't a standard sarge one. |
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| 19:00.48 | Tallu | i got it from here |
| 19:00.52 | Tallu | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 19:00.52 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 19:01.15 | Tallu | Someone here told me it'd be a good idea to use that one and I'm rather new myself so I figured I'd go for it :) |
| 19:01.32 | asg | Tallu: did the 2.6.8 kernel that came with sarge work? |
| 19:01.51 | aeronadix | I am trying to compile kernel using fakeroot but I get errors I think due to permission denied. SO now I am just compiling using root. What do you think |
| 19:02.02 | Tallu | asg: well, I upgraded from the 2.4 one |
| 19:02.09 | asg | aeronadix: a bad idea unless you trust the source |
| 19:02.28 | asg | Tallu: okay, nevermind. What does 'xhost' produce when you run it? |
| 19:02.36 | aeronadix | asg: hmm, so I guess fakeroot has to be configured before use, thats why its not working for me |
| 19:02.50 | Eulex | hmm, is there any program that would list the available X11 extensions? |
| 19:02.51 | Tallu | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 19:02.51 | Tallu | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 19:03.01 | asg | aeronadix: no, it has not configuration. Paste what you are typing and the output in a pastebin. |
| 19:03.02 | Tallu | xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" |
| 19:03.17 | asg | Tallu: but running 'xterm' works? |
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| 19:03.26 | Tallu | yup |
| 19:03.33 | oliver__ | does know one has a solution for my problem? :( |
| 19:03.34 | asg | Tallu: that is, typing 'xterm', not clicking some icon |
| 19:03.44 | Tallu | asg: yeah i typed it in and it worked just fine |
| 19:04.03 | Tallu | i seem to have messed something up, if only i'd know what it is heh |
| 19:04.30 | asg | Tallu: well, if you can type 'xterm', there is no reason you shouldn't be able to also type 'xhost' or 'firefox'. |
| 19:04.49 | asg | Tallu: does 'firefox --display=:0.0' also fail? |
| 19:05.14 | Tallu | sorry i was in as root when i tried to type xhost.. firefox didnt work though |
| 19:05.20 | Tallu | this is what it gives with xhost now: |
| 19:05.22 | Tallu | juuso@xi-it:~$ xhost |
| 19:05.23 | Tallu | access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect |
| 19:05.32 | asg | Tallu: are you also root when you run firefox? |
| 19:05.37 | Tallu | no |
| 19:05.51 | aeronadix | asg: fakeroot make-kpkg clean, but then a bunch of rm don't work (permission denied) see #pastebin |
| 19:05.51 | asg | Tallu: did you become root and then su back to your user and then run firefox? |
| 19:06.16 | Tallu | asg: using the --display=:0.0 also gave the same error as before |
| 19:06.28 | Tallu | I became root using su and logged off to my normal user |
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| 19:08.09 | asg | Tallu: in the xterm you are now in, what does '/usr/bin/id' output? |
| 19:08.25 | asg | aeronadix: did you run make-kpkg as root before? |
| 19:08.43 | Tallu | asg: its the username and the groups i belong to, not root :) |
| 19:08.51 | aeronadix | asg: yeah |
| 19:08.57 | Tallu | uid=1000(juuso) gid=1000(juuso) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(juuso) |
| 19:09.01 | asg | aeronadix: then you'll need to be root to remove them. |
| 19:09.19 | aeronadix | asg: oh |
| 19:09.22 | asg | Tallu: one final question before I give up. If you type 'exit' in the xterm, does it close? |
| 19:09.29 | aeronadix | asg: thats why, I see, thanks |
| 19:09.34 | asg | aeronadix: you're welcome |
| 19:09.36 | Tallu | asg: yes |
| 19:09.43 | Tallu | asg: im at my wits end :/ |
| 19:09.52 | zebalin4 | asg: thanks for the info about debian snapshots. |
| 19:09.59 | asg | Tallu: then I don't know, I've never seen that behavior with one X program and all others being fine. |
| 19:10.02 | asg | zebalin4: you're welcome |
| 19:10.32 | asg | Tallu: the only other thing I can suggest is that you check the permissions on ~/.firefox and ~/.mozilla-firefox. Shouldn't matter but you never know. |
| 19:10.32 | Tallu | asg: everythin else starts just fine, yeah.. i tried some games, even they start |
| 19:11.23 | asg | Tallu: since you are running Gnome (and who knows what they do these days) you might try asking their support channels (/msg dpkg #gnome) |
| 19:12.00 | Tallu | asg: they dont exist |
| 19:12.04 | ericP | i want to move a bunch of mp3s to my treo. jpilot seems to move datebook, contacts, todos and memo pad data to the palm. |
| 19:12.10 | ericP | what should i use to move mp3s? |
| 19:12.16 | Tallu | Yeah I'll ask them, thanks a lot for your time, asg :) |
| 19:12.17 | asg | Tallu: not here but the factoid tells you where they do. |
| 19:12.29 | asg | Tallu: one other thing, does 'alias | grep firefox' print anything? |
| 19:12.35 | ericP | (pretending they are appointments seems like it might be a long way around) |
| 19:13.34 | Tallu | asg: nothing |
| 19:13.58 | asg | Tallu: okay, then I'm out of ideas I'm afraid. Sorry. |
| 19:14.08 | Tallu | Yeah its ok, i'll go ask about in the gnome channel |
| 19:14.33 | Tallu | asg: thanks again, though. much appreciated. :) |
| 19:14.39 | asg | Tallu: if you find out what's wrong, I'd be interested in the solution. |
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| 19:15.17 | Tallu | asg: I'll be sure to let you know :) |
| 19:15.23 | asg | Tallu: thanks, and good luck |
| 19:16.05 | Gokee2_Laptop | my xserver won`t start. /dev/input/mouse can not be found. I think I must not have the right mod loaded for a ps2 mouse? What mod needs to be loaded? |
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| 19:17.46 | roym | folks, I got a xen dom0 instance running on etch. Can someone tell me |
| 19:17.46 | roym | why I need a patched version of debian to run a domU? I thought the |
| 19:17.46 | roym | idea was that pretty much any linux could be a guest. |
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| 19:19.41 | asg | roym: ##xen would be able to tell you |
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| 19:21.11 | roym | asg: thanks - I just got a response from ##xen. |
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| 19:22.28 | asg | roym: you're welcome |
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| 19:27.33 | diilbertAtWork | where is the bestplace to get help setting up my hp photosmart printer ? |
| 19:27.46 | asg | diilbertAtWork: linuxprinting.org and/or cups.org |
| 19:28.20 | syntaxx | i know this is stupid i setup a email/web/ftp server on my desktop server im just wondering what other services can you run in linux? |
| 19:28.45 | asg | syntaxx: proxies, routing daemons, whatever you wish. |
| 19:30.45 | syntaxx | asg, i see |
| 19:31.51 | asg | syntaxx: the last time we upgraded our perimeter DNS servers, I hosted them on my laptop for the time of the upgrade. A desktop is not different from a server in Unixland, only the amount of horsepower available from the hardware. |
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| 19:34.29 | Knorrie | 'lo, i'm trying to upgrade the kernel of my etch box to |
| 19:34.38 | Knorrie | ... stupid enter |
| 19:35.02 | Knorrie | the sid kernel 2.6.17, but booting fails with a oops/panic/stack trace: http://tom.ti.thrijswijk.nl/~krh/kernel/2.6.17.txt |
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| 19:35.25 | syntaxx | asg, well im just a student learning and studying stuff about linux so when i enter the real world ill be able to accomplish any of those linux servers though |
| 19:35.27 | asg | Knorrie: and you are doing this why? |
| 19:36.08 | Knorrie | asg: because of the security fixes? |
| 19:36.21 | asg | syntaxx: the good thing is that practically anything you will encounter in the real world can be run on a laptop for testing purposes (barring things like RAID, Fiber Channel, etc.) |
| 19:36.51 | asg | Knorrie: Debian backports security fixes to its stable versions and even etch now (provided you haven't deleted the security sources for /etc/apt/sources.list) |
| 19:37.58 | syntaxx | asg, i see thanks for the info |
| 19:37.59 | asg | syntaxx: you're welcome |
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| 19:39.06 | Knorrie | asg: oh? i thought testing had no security support... |
| 19:39.27 | asg | Knorrie: it has since sarge went stable. |
| 19:39.43 | Knorrie | asg: 2.6.16-2-686 from testing boots fine |
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| 19:39.50 | asg | Knorrie: then again, if you were worried about security, you wouldn't be running a beta version of an OS would you. |
| 19:40.19 | lamp__ | is installing debian testing posible with minimall install iso because http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2006/20060716 |
| 19:40.23 | Tallu | asg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246313#c12 |
| 19:40.24 | asg | Knorrie: /msg dpkg testing security |
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| 19:40.28 | Tallu | asg: this solved it :) |
| 19:41.07 | Knorrie | asg: true, it's not a public box with user accounts etc, a test-machine on which things can go wrong |
| 19:41.14 | asg | Tallu: ah, interesting |
| 19:41.26 | asg | Tallu: thanks |
| 19:41.27 | Knorrie | asg: but i'll use the latest 2.6.16 from testing, thanks |
| 19:41.31 | asg | Knorrie: you're welcome |
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| 19:42.36 | Tallu | asg: and thank you.. a lot :) |
| 19:43.12 | asg | Tallu: :) |
| 19:44.03 | maxxle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.20 | asg | maxxle: wget |
| 19:44.45 | maxxle | asg: I don't know the exact URL for wgeting it. It is seems to be some java stuff |
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| 19:45.23 | asg | maxxle: well, you may have to use Perl's WWW::Mechanize module to write a web screen scraping utility if wget and/or curl are not extensible enough. |
| 19:45.54 | inwx | it's nice to see irc isn't dying |
| 19:45.55 | inwx | :) |
| 19:45.57 | asg | maxxle: you could also ask the webmaster of that site if she will provide an easier to download mirror mechanism. |
| 19:45.58 | lamp__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.11 | Knorrie | asg: it's running linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.16+0.2) now :) |
| 19:46.11 | asg | inwx: still alive and kicking |
| 19:46.22 | asg | Knorrie: good |
| 19:46.24 | asg | Knorrie: :) |
| 19:46.25 | inwx | haha lol |
| 19:46.37 | maxxle | asg: I think skoda won't listen to me :) |
| 19:46.37 | stew | !kick asg |
| 19:47.03 | asg | stew: for some odd reason, I'm still here ;) |
| 19:47.05 | streuner | haha |
| 19:47.08 | itchi | maxxle: wget http://skoda-tour.de/flash/player.swf lazy guy |
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| 19:47.22 | itchi | maxxle: Look in the source code of that page ! |
| 19:47.51 | asg | itchi: it's still considered considerate that one ask the site owner if mirroring via automated tools is okay. |
| 19:48.08 | inwx | cya |
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| 19:48.36 | itchi | asg: Yup right ;-) |
| 19:48.49 | _ericb | hi all I I have an issue about crontab. I edited crontab, ran crontab /etc/crontab, but the tasks still don't run |
| 19:48.59 | maxxle | itchi: This is not the movie i think. I want to get the whole movie |
| 19:50.06 | itchi | maxxle: Like i have already tell :-) |
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| 19:50.34 | asg | stew: did you get the link I sent you in -ot? |
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| 19:51.14 | stew | asg: oh, just saw it, yeah, i found it a little while after asking, but thanks |
| 19:51.24 | asg | stew: ah, cool |
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| 19:51.30 | maxxle | itchi: Sorry... not trained in reading javascript |
| 19:51.57 | itchi | maxxle: Do an search in that file lol ;-) |
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| 19:54.49 | CyberMad | how to make screen width more flexible, i want to look mysql table (select * from blah) |
| 19:55.08 | CyberMad | how to control the screen width? |
| 19:55.19 | asg | CyberMad: use 'select * from blah \G' |
| 19:55.45 | CyberMad | thanks |
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| 19:56.11 | derek_ | AMD Sempron will come under i386 category, right? |
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| 19:58.23 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, anyone knows how to make a video of my screen? |
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| 19:58.51 | Jeffro | hi |
| 19:59.18 | streuner | easy, just use your digi-cam ;-) |
| 19:59.32 | Jeffro | what line do i need to put in the sources.list for the latest stable apps, it was deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main non-free contrib |
| 19:59.34 | itchi | maxxle: Oh yee, if you want to take it easy, most files are donwloaded on the computer, if this give you a hint ;-) |
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| 19:59.58 | streuner | Jeffro: s.d.o |
| 19:59.59 | asg | Maquiavelo: istanbul might be worth looking at |
| 20:00.02 | Jeffro | so what is the line for the lates |
| 20:00.10 | Jeffro | and what's s.d.o? |
| 20:00.24 | streuner | Jeffro: but keep in mind, support for oldstable is gone |
| 20:00.28 | Ronin | security.debian.org |
| 20:00.38 | Jeffro | i want the latest youknow |
| 20:00.46 | Jeffro | it was oldstable by default xD |
| 20:00.56 | Ronin | Jeffro: ahh you suffer from that disease do you |
| 20:00.56 | streuner | why not just use sarge then? |
| 20:01.06 | Jeffro | i want the latest line plz |
| 20:01.16 | Ronin | Jeffro: can you fix it when it gets broken? not if but when mind you |
| 20:01.22 | Jeffro | i can |
| 20:01.28 | derek_ | for AMD Mobile Sempron, i386 version? |
| 20:01.29 | Jeffro | im pretty good with linux.debian |
| 20:01.36 | asg | Jeffro: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 20:01.45 | streuner | hm |
| 20:02.04 | streuner | if you have to ask you shouldn't use unstable |
| 20:02.10 | Ronin | streuner: indeed |
| 20:02.17 | streuner | derek_: k7 |
| 20:02.19 | Jeffro | i dont ask for unstable |
| 20:02.24 | Jeffro | i ask for stable |
| 20:02.30 | streuner | sarge then |
| 20:02.34 | Ronin | sarge it is then |
| 20:02.44 | Jeffro | it was oldstable when i installed it |
| 20:02.52 | asg | Jeffro: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 20:02.56 | Jeffro | i just need the deb blabla line for sources.list |
| 20:02.58 | darknessofevil | guys what's better...? ext3 or reiserFS? |
| 20:03.08 | CyberMad | where is rc.local in debian? |
| 20:03.09 | streuner | Jeffro: use what asg told you |
| 20:03.13 | asg | CyberMad: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 20:03.18 | CyberMad | thank you |
| 20:03.23 | Jeffro | i dont havewoody -_-" |
| 20:03.26 | streuner | asg: damn, you are pretty fast today |
| 20:03.28 | darknessofevil | right now im running ext3 but i heard reiserFS has less overhead? |
| 20:03.48 | asg | darknessofevil: /msg dpkg filesystem comparison |
| 20:03.57 | asg | streuner: that's what beer does to you apparently |
| 20:04.08 | streuner | :-) |
| 20:04.11 | Maquiavelo | asg, Thanks |
| 20:04.16 | asg | Maquiavelo: you're welcome |
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| 20:04.24 | Jeffro | well i looked |
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| 20:04.35 | asg | Jeffro: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:05.13 | Jeffro | but i just want to change that oldstable to stable, thats al you know |
| 20:05.23 | Jeffro | i need the latest alsa |
| 20:05.28 | derek_ | streuner: what's that? |
| 20:05.29 | asg | Jeffro: also, dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1 |
| 20:05.29 | streuner | are you learn-resisdent? |
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| 20:06.03 | streuner | derek_: /msg dpkg k7 |
| 20:06.19 | asg | streuner: learn-resisdent == university student? |
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| 20:07.30 | streuner | asg: if you tell things 2 times you are allowed to ask this question... |
| 20:07.45 | MsgToThePpl | hi, how do i check if the dhcp server is running ? |
| 20:07.58 | ldexter | ps aux | grep dhcpd |
| 20:07.59 | asg | MsgToThePpl: ps aux | grep dhcp |
| 20:08.12 | asg | MsgToThePpl: or see if something is listening on udp/68 |
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| 20:08.39 | derek_ | ok streuner. But I can't find this version on the site |
| 20:08.52 | itchi | MsgToThePpl: /etc/init.d/dhcp start and there we go ... |
| 20:08.54 | derek_ | [alpha] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] |
| 20:09.01 | derek_ | only those are available |
| 20:09.04 | MsgToThePpl | it seems it's not running how do i start it ? |
| 20:09.05 | asg | MsgToThePpl: erm, udp/67 rather |
| 20:09.14 | Jeffro | look i do not need to upgrade my distro or anything, i want the latest .deb compiled package of alsa, and they are old on here and those dont work |
| 20:09.24 | streuner | derek_: i386 |
| 20:09.28 | asg | Jeffro: /msg dpkg backports |
| 20:09.29 | itchi | MsgToThePpl: Just told it |
| 20:09.33 | asg | Jeffro: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 20:09.43 | MsgToThePpl | /etc/init.d/dhcp start says no such file |
| 20:09.56 | itchi | MsgToThePpl: Is it been installed? |
| 20:09.57 | asg | Jeffro: stable never gets new code, only backported security fixes. |
| 20:10.01 | streuner | derek_: k7 for linux-images have some optimized code for it... |
| 20:10.15 | Jeffro | oh |
| 20:10.16 | streuner | derek_: i386 works for it too |
| 20:10.18 | itchi | MsgToThePpl: I mean, in /general/ and dhcp server |
| 20:10.24 | derek_ | streuner: ok |
| 20:10.32 | Jeffro | but i cant get alsa to work, its saying no card database damn thing |
| 20:10.56 | asg | Jeffro: start with '/msg dpkg alsa' |
| 20:11.08 | streuner | derek_: you could always install an 'k7' kernel later |
| 20:11.47 | Jeffro | i have installed many times but this is the second time i having problem with it |
| 20:12.07 | Jeffro | first time i solvedis using alsaconf -l cause i had a sb16 |
| 20:12.24 | Jeffro | but this aint a legacy card |
| 20:12.45 | itchi | Jeffro: Look with 'modconf' ?? |
| 20:12.52 | Jeffro | il try that |
| 20:13.11 | Jeffro | line 178: /usr/share/modconf/params: No such file or director |
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| 20:13.49 | itchi | Jeffro: It's an little tool you need to install. Usefull to install new modules and when gona buy some hardware for example |
| 20:13.51 | MsgToThePpl | where's syslog ? |
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| 20:14.08 | hjubal | hola |
| 20:14.08 | itchi | MsgToThePpl: /etc/var/log/ |
| 20:14.09 | Jeffro | ah allright |
| 20:14.34 | Jeffro | modconf is already the newest version. |
| 20:14.36 | Jeffro | xD |
| 20:14.45 | Jeffro | strange |
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| 20:15.18 | Jeffro | huh |
| 20:15.26 | Jeffro | i redownloaded alsaconf |
| 20:15.26 | itchi | Jeffro: Which version are you running? |
| 20:15.34 | Jeffro | i got 0.4.3b |
| 20:15.36 | itchi | Jeffro: Redownload?? |
| 20:15.37 | Jeffro | xD |
| 20:15.42 | Jeffro | redld alsaconf |
| 20:15.44 | itchi | Jeffro: No i mean the Debian version |
| 20:15.45 | Jeffro | with aptget |
| 20:15.49 | itchi | Jeffro: Ok |
| 20:16.05 | Jeffro | well its debian based |
| 20:16.11 | itchi | Jeffro: Bassed? |
| 20:16.14 | Ronin | heh this should be interesting |
| 20:16.16 | itchi | oefg |
| 20:16.21 | Jeffro | i know |
| 20:16.29 | Jeffro | dont start complaining or flaming |
| 20:16.43 | Jeffro | i am installing this pc for a client |
| 20:16.48 | Ronin | Jeffro: perhaps you should try the channel for you distro and not the one its based on |
| 20:16.58 | Jeffro | that wont do ronin |
| 20:17.05 | Ronin | and why not |
| 20:17.09 | Jeffro | first of |
| 20:17.13 | Jeffro | very few ppl |
| 20:17.23 | Jeffro | second Their alsa version dont work both |
| 20:17.27 | streuner | what distro are you using? |
| 20:17.31 | Jeffro | dsl |
| 20:17.39 | itchi | Jeffro: Why not using Debian and solv the trouble!? |
| 20:17.43 | Jeffro | my client was complaining it needs to be dsl |
| 20:17.54 | itchi | Jeffro: Oegf, strange choice :-/ |
| 20:17.55 | Jeffro | also for the hd space |
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| 20:18.12 | streuner | hd's are cheap |
| 20:18.16 | streuner | nowadays |
| 20:18.17 | Jeffro | i know |
| 20:18.19 | itchi | Jeffro: hhm, okay, but Debian are realy realy little, if you just install what you need lol |
| 20:18.29 | Jeffro | i know |
| 20:18.43 | Jeffro | i use it on my main pc |
| 20:18.46 | Jeffro | :D |
| 20:18.49 | DerJamster | Well, around 300 megs a bare install. |
| 20:18.59 | itchi | Jeffro: Remove that dsl, install Debian, the minimal, add your favorites apps etc...?? |
| 20:19.00 | Jeffro | its 178 mb |
| 20:19.11 | dondelelcaro | if necessary, you can get the install even smaller |
| 20:19.15 | itchi | Jeffro: How less is that hdd? |
| 20:19.18 | ggeecko | can some suggest something where my friends can d/l and u/l mp3s from and to me |
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| 20:19.31 | DerJamster | Use TTylinux, use 6M ;P |
| 20:19.32 | itchi | oegf 75 :-) |
| 20:19.48 | Jeffro | i know but dsl has the programs built in i need |
| 20:19.51 | itchi | Floppy gun fire :-p |
| 20:20.22 | Jeffro | ggeecko, try hamachi |
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| 20:20.37 | Jeffro | you can get connected by a vpn |
| 20:21.10 | itchi | Jeffro: With Debian you can do what you want lol :-) |
| 20:21.25 | Jeffro | i kno, but still using dsl was a requirement |
| 20:22.00 | Jeffro | btw i know the true power of debian ^^ |
| 20:22.08 | Jeffro | i said i use it on my main pc |
| 20:22.19 | itchi | Jeffro: Have you try '/msg dpkg alsa' ? |
| 20:22.24 | Jeffro | yeah |
| 20:22.36 | Jeffro | but that site wont help |
| 20:22.37 | itchi | Jeffro: Then following these tips? Like alsa-onliner ... |
| 20:22.39 | darknessofevil | anyone here experimented with xgl? |
| 20:22.47 | Jeffro | dsl doesnt have gcc tools |
| 20:22.55 | Jeffro | so i need a debian package |
| 20:22.58 | derek_ | my goodness.. set of 14 CDs!!! What's in there in all of them? |
| 20:22.59 | nima | darknessofevil, no |
| 20:23.03 | Jeffro | gfromt the stable |
| 20:23.12 | derek_ | who needs so many or all of those packages? |
| 20:23.18 | streuner | derek_: all packages which are in sarge |
| 20:23.18 | _ericb | anyone have a good media player/librairy manager for linux ? something that looks like winamp 5 if possible.. |
| 20:23.26 | streuner | derek_: but just use netinstall |
| 20:23.27 | asg | derek_: people in undeveloped countries without net connections. |
| 20:23.28 | itchi | derek_: Many many many many stuff that you never whant to loose or use somethings others :-) Take that netinstall or so?? |
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| 20:23.54 | derek_ | streuner: yeah, getting the net-install iso (only 110 MB) |
| 20:24.00 | nima | _ericb, doesn't look like winamp5, but if you need library management, rhythmbox |
| 20:24.16 | _ericb | rgtthmbox.. ok gonna check that |
| 20:24.16 | _ericb | thanks |
| 20:24.19 | itchi | derek_: With that netinstall, you install an base system and the rest he download it of the net. Verry usefull when big internet line ... |
| 20:24.21 | nima | derek_, net-install = leet |
| 20:24.38 | derek_ | but I'm going to have a hard time connecting to the internet from there |
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| 20:24.56 | Jeffro | duh its leet |
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| 20:25.04 | Jeffro | debian mirrors are fast |
| 20:25.18 | Jeffro | i used my full connection :P |
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| 20:25.19 | beetlepun_ | anyone has good links for cross compiling? |
| 20:25.27 | Jeffro | 1024 kb/s |
| 20:25.29 | derek_ | nima? where are you from? and what does your nick mean? |
| 20:25.29 | itchi | derek_: If you have more that one comp to set and have space on another compute. Setup there an apt-proxy. So you download the packages 1 time only and share it for the whole sub-network |
| 20:25.43 | Jeffro | w8 a sec need the bathroom :P |
| 20:25.53 | nima | derek_, my nick is my real name, i am iranian, but i live in the US |
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| 20:26.34 | derek_ | okay nima |
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| 20:27.38 | nima | derek_, why? do you know another nima? |
| 20:27.42 | derek_ | itchi: Thanks. No, I will use linux on only this computer. |
| 20:27.50 | ggeecko | anyone here live in atlanta |
| 20:27.51 | MsgToThePpl | Attempting to eastablish a wireless (both wifi and bluetooth) connection between my notebook and my desktop the lap does not acquire a valid ip why ? |
| 20:28.08 | derek_ | nima: I've heard of a soap named "Nima Rose" (also available "Nima Sandal") |
| 20:28.10 | itchi | derek_: You gona change your mind. Like me, no more $m shit at home :-) |
| 20:28.24 | nima | thats weird :-P |
| 20:28.28 | rkrush | Say, I installed xfonts-terminus, but it doesn't look like there are any normal width fonts there. Does anybody else use this font? (Or could recommend a nice monospace font that works well for programming, etc. at sizes 16-20pt) |
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| 20:28.39 | derek_ | MsgToThePpl: I have to use bluetooth too. |
| 20:28.58 | MsgToThePpl | do u know what causes this prlbewm? |
| 20:29.06 | itchi | derek_: Just dont _give_ up in the begin! Many good things are a bit hidden, if i can say it so ... |
| 20:29.17 | derek_ | itchi: the desktop will be for my bro who studies m$ stuff in college |
| 20:29.44 | itchi | derek_: Learning $M shit in an college ... :-/ aaarrrggg |
| 20:29.51 | derek_ | MsgToThePpl: no. |
| 20:30.25 | derek_ | itchi: I think most, if not all, colleges teaching computer science teach this |
| 20:30.26 | dogmeat | i have wd1600jb (western digital harddrive), dmesg reports it as hdb, but with unknown partition table. how can i determine what the partition type is so i can mount the drive? |
| 20:31.13 | derek_ | fdisk? |
| 20:31.25 | dogmeat | thanks |
| 20:31.26 | itchi | derek_: These teach the baddest thing, but yeah, i know how teachers are !! :-/ |
| 20:31.28 | lurker99 | try an fdisk -l |
| 20:31.56 | derek_ | itchi: baddest (ew!) *worst |
| 20:32.18 | asg | derek_: irregular verbs are now deprecated in the English language |
| 20:32.32 | derek_ | itchi: it's not the teachers. It's the universities that make the course |
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| 20:32.52 | lurker99 | dogmeat: try a 'sudo fdisk -l' ... or could it be unpartitioned? |
| 20:32.54 | derek_ | asg: it's an adjective |
| 20:32.56 | itchi | derek_: teach the baddest thing... Ask why many users use illegall software!? Because teachers/school ... |
| 20:33.18 | asg | derek_: touche |
| 20:33.47 | derek_ | itchi: yeah.. :\ |
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| 20:34.16 | JDStone | Why doesn't debian net install see my SATA hdd or my network card? |
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| 20:34.44 | streuner | JDStone: you want install for server or desktop? |
| 20:34.45 | derek_ | MsgToThePpl: Did you use Bluez for bluetooth stack on linux? |
| 20:34.46 | Maquiavelo | Hi guys, I was wondering, why is vlc available in stable and unstable, but not in testing ? |
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| 20:35.01 | JDStone | server |
| 20:35.02 | itchi | JDStone: Probably an new(unknow) sata or need to load additional module?? |
| 20:35.05 | JDStone | streuner, server |
| 20:35.12 | streuner | JDStone: /msg dpkg 2.6.15 sarge |
| 20:35.25 | derek_ | What is MD5SUMS.sign ? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 20:35.29 | dogmeat | what file system type is swap? |
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| 20:35.39 | Maquiavelo | dogmeat, 81 I think |
| 20:35.42 | Maquiavelo | dogmeat, ie 83 |
| 20:35.43 | JDStone | streuner, you want me to message him? |
| 20:35.45 | Maquiavelo | or*9 |
| 20:35.50 | streuner | JDStone: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 20:36.12 | streuner | !tell JDStone about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:36.35 | JDStone | it sent me a link, streuner |
| 20:36.49 | streuner | yeah, try this instead |
| 20:37.12 | streuner | 2.6.8 kernels don't support SATA pretty well.. |
| 20:37.24 | streuner | so you need an installer which have newer kernel |
| 20:37.37 | JDStone | how do I do that streuner |
| 20:37.40 | JDStone | it's a net isntall? |
| 20:37.44 | streuner | yes |
| 20:37.52 | streuner | but with 2.6.15 kernel |
| 20:37.53 | derek_ | Does anyone know what this is: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS.sign |
| 20:38.15 | JDStone | streuner, but if I don't have debian installed, how do I install 2.6.15? |
| 20:38.17 | blondie | a URL |
| 20:38.18 | blondie | c.c |
| 20:38.26 | streuner | derek_: you could use it to verify the iso form *that* website |
| 20:38.28 | itchi | derek_: An system to check the validity of the file you have downloaded. To see that it's not corrupted |
| 20:39.00 | CyberMad | how to insert new row (values) to database with bash command? |
| 20:39.05 | CyberMad | i use mysql |
| 20:39.06 | streuner | JDStone: get the iso, burn it and use it? |
| 20:39.13 | itchi | CyberMad: Go #mysql :-p |
| 20:39.26 | JDStone | streuner, I have the 31r2 netinst iso |
| 20:39.38 | streuner | which use 2.6.8 kernel |
| 20:39.54 | JDStone | where do I get the iso with kernel 2.6.15 |
| 20:40.08 | streuner | are you trolling? |
| 20:40.08 | JDStone | i'm sorry streuner |
| 20:40.13 | JDStone | I see the link |
| 20:40.24 | JDStone | what's trolling? |
| 20:40.28 | CyberMad | itchi hehe.. |
| 20:41.13 | JDStone | streuner, I'm downloading the iso from: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm |
| 20:41.14 | derek_ | I know what MD5SUM check is. But what is MD5SUMs.sign? |
| 20:41.15 | streuner | a troll is someone who want annoy you |
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| 20:41.18 | JDStone | I didn't understand before |
| 20:41.22 | itchi | streuner: Looks there are a problem with http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.15/ |
| 20:42.11 | streuner | what kind of? |
| 20:42.13 | Jeffro | back |
| 20:42.15 | JDStone | itchi, what's the prob? |
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| 20:42.39 | itchi | streuner: Looks like it's '2.6.16' now. We no more get that little older one |
| 20:42.47 | JDStone | itchi, try this link: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm |
| 20:42.51 | Smirnov | How do you reload whatever daemon is using /etc/hosts ? |
| 20:42.57 | streuner | itchi: ok, so just change the factoid |
| 20:43.17 | Smirnov | I added some things to /etc/hosts and I can't figure out what to restart :( |
| 20:43.25 | streuner | Smirnov: ifdown -a ; ifup -a ? |
| 20:43.30 | itchi | streuner: No |
| 20:43.40 | itchi | streuner: It's an link on the comment of that site that are bad it's looks |
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| 20:44.00 | JDStone | or here, itchi http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 20:44.07 | itchi | streuner: The first comment on top |
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| 20:45.55 | streuner | dpkg, sarge 2.6.16 is <reply> http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 20:45.55 | dpkg | ...but sarge 2.6.16 is already something else... |
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| 20:46.02 | streuner | wth |
| 20:46.04 | itchi | streuner: Ugf, now link is been working :-/ It's the storm here :-) |
| 20:46.18 | streuner | !sarge 2.6.16 |
| 20:46.18 | dpkg | if you want to run a 2.6.16 kernel on debian sarge, first follow the instructions on http://backports.org/instructions.html then "aptitude update ; apt-get -t sarge-backports install grub udev initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-$arch" where $arch is one of 486 686 k7. also ask me about <bpo>, or for a sarge 2.6.16 installer see http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2616.htm |
| 20:46.26 | streuner | !factinfo sarge 2.6.16 |
| 20:46.26 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.16 -- created by stew <~stew@mudskipper.vireo.org> at Tue Jun 27 18:40:45 2006 (25 days); it has been requested 29 times, last by streuner, 8s ago. |
| 20:46.35 | itchi | hehe |
| 20:46.37 | MsgToThePpl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.49 | itchi | I'm not alone so so crazy :-) |
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| 20:47.56 | streuner | itchi: one month here and didn't regonize 2.6.16 for sarge, that's *HARD* ;-) |
| 20:47.57 | derek_ | why is the iso downloading only from SE ? |
| 20:48.02 | Jeffro | shit |
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| 20:48.14 | Jeffro | i finally got the latest alsa-base |
| 20:48.22 | streuner | derek_: cdimage.d.o is in .se .... |
| 20:48.29 | Jeffro | it says no supported pci card found |
| 20:48.31 | itchi | Jeffro: Try '/msg dpkg shit' lol |
| 20:48.43 | derek_ | streuner: then how can I download from some other location? |
| 20:48.46 | itchi | streuner: ;-p |
| 20:48.48 | Jeffro | what the heck do i need for the builtin sound |
| 20:49.11 | Jeffro | is it possible |
| 20:49.16 | itchi | i take YACOC, Yet another Cup Of Coffee :-p |
| 20:49.23 | streuner | derek_: what's wrong with it? |
| 20:49.56 | Jeffro | does alsa support onboard sound? |
| 20:50.08 | streuner | sure |
| 20:50.13 | Jeffro | strange |
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| 20:50.23 | streuner | both OSS and ALSA aren't care if its onboard or not |
| 20:50.30 | streuner | as long its supported |
| 20:50.31 | Jeffro | it didnt find a pci card or sumthing, probing didnt work |
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| 20:51.22 | Jeffro | what do i do now? |
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| 20:51.40 | streuner | Jeffro: check out alsa.org and see is the card supported |
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| 20:51.59 | Jeffro | are there card that aint supported? |
| 20:52.06 | derek_ | streuner: it's downloading @ 2KB/s |
| 20:52.07 | streuner | sure |
| 20:52.30 | streuner | derek_: well, usually its faster ;-) |
| 20:52.32 | Jeffro | but its a old card |
| 20:52.48 | Jeffro | most old cards are supported right? |
| 20:52.53 | derek_ | so how can I download from some other location? |
| 20:52.59 | stew | Jeffro: yes, do you know if your card is isa or pci? |
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| 20:53.04 | streuner | what happens if you use OSS instead of ALSA? |
| 20:53.09 | Jeffro | no, its onboard |
| 20:53.17 | Jeffro | so i dont know |
| 20:53.23 | streuner | he saw it via lspci |
| 20:53.25 | Jeffro | cant use oss i think |
| 20:53.26 | derek_ | (Does anyone recognise her: http://www.zenirc.org/zenirccrap.jpg ?) |
| 20:53.59 | streuner | Jeffro: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
| 20:54.25 | Jeffro | nothing |
| 20:54.40 | teknoprep | derek_: she that girl from kids? |
| 20:55.16 | derek_ | what kids? |
| 20:55.20 | teknoprep | nvm |
| 20:55.30 | Jeffro | i dont see a audio card when i just do lspci -v |
| 20:55.41 | teknoprep | multimedia controller? |
| 20:55.50 | streuner | onboard... |
| 20:55.58 | Jeffro | jup itsonboard |
| 20:56.00 | teknoprep | Jeffro: copy and paste the results of lspci onto rafb.net/paste |
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| 20:56.09 | streuner | Jeffro: did you enable it in BIOS? |
| 20:56.24 | Jeffro | yup |
| 20:56.27 | Jeffro | i did |
| 20:56.30 | streuner | sure? |
| 20:56.46 | Jeffro | yes check 3 times |
| 20:56.49 | streuner | Jeffro: what does 'dmesg' say about? |
| 20:56.58 | streuner | does the kernel 'see' the soundcard? |
| 20:57.25 | Jeffro | wow |
| 20:57.29 | Jeffro | lost of stuff |
| 20:57.30 | itchi | window balance |
| 20:57.31 | itchi | oeps |
| 20:57.46 | Jeffro | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.55 | Jeffro | it can be that |
| 20:57.58 | streuner | !listvals 1869 |
| 20:57.58 | itchi | Jeffro: That work too, have the same on my laptop |
| 20:58.03 | dpkg | Factoid search of '1869' by value (1): rfc1651. |
| 20:58.15 | Jeffro | sb: 1 Soundblaster PnP card(s) found |
| 20:58.22 | itchi | Jeffro: You need to load that module for it. Take it easy do it with 'modconf' |
| 20:58.45 | Jeffro | ok il try it |
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| 20:58.51 | streuner | Jeffro: check alsa.org for that |
| 20:59.55 | streuner | Jeffro: so dsl use a debian kernel? |
| 20:59.57 | Jeffro | i dont see the card in modconf |
| 21:00.00 | Jeffro | yeah |
| 21:00.13 | itchi | Jeffro: Near the end of the list. |
| 21:00.39 | Jeffro | it is at sound right? |
| 21:01.15 | itchi | Jeffro: No it's appart if i remember good, realy near the end of the list. Look to somethings like '*1869*' |
| 21:02.09 | Jeffro | cant find it |
| 21:03.19 | itchi | Jeffro: Doh, crap it's an 1688 i have :-/ |
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| 21:03.53 | Jeffro | ac |
| 21:03.55 | Jeffro | ack xD |
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| 21:04.03 | itchi | Jeffro: These cards are a bit /nice/ to get it working. I had another like these, i think it's like you have now. It's on my other one i have |
| 21:04.15 | itchi | Jeffro: Wait i look a bit |
| 21:04.28 | Jeffro | k |
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| 21:06.00 | itchi | Jeffro: It's an laptop?? |
| 21:06.06 | Jeffro | nope |
| 21:06.22 | Jeffro | just a motherboard with stuff |
| 21:06.42 | Maquiavelo | Hey guys, quick question, I just attached a flash drive, and syslog reported it as sdb, fdisk -l /dev/sdb says it's System type is FAT16, however mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/flash reports a 'Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1". Any ideas? |
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| 21:07.55 | blondie | Maquiavelo: try leaving off the "-t vfat" bit |
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| 21:08.08 | Maquiavelo | Asks me to specify a type |
| 21:08.10 | Falc | Hello. I just installed Debian using a Netinstall CD. I just done a netstat -a and it tells me that my machine is listening on port 666. I've asked a few people and they suggest I have a virus of somesort. I thought I'd ask the real experts about what this is about. |
| 21:08.13 | blondie | try msdos |
| 21:08.21 | Maquiavelo | Same deal |
| 21:08.28 | itchi | Jeffro: Yeah, it was on my other compaq armada 1592 it's looks, asking to google, hope i ge my old usenet post |
| 21:08.30 | blondie | try just sdb instead of sdb1 |
| 21:08.33 | Maquiavelo | The wrong fs type |
| 21:08.37 | Maquiavelo | Already tried that too |
| 21:08.40 | Jeffro | k |
| 21:09.26 | itchi | Jeffro: Linux on laptop i guess. go looking there ... |
| 21:09.44 | teknoprep | i have it running great on my asus z71v |
| 21:09.51 | Falc | Strange thing is I installed Debian no more thne an hour ago |
| 21:09.54 | teknoprep | its unbelievably fast on this centrino cpu |
| 21:09.58 | itchi | Jeffro: Like that had help me many to get that working ;-) |
| 21:10.08 | Jeffro | i know the site rox |
| 21:10.21 | Jeffro | installed one laptop that way ^^ |
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| 21:11.07 | Maquiavelo | blondie, Any ideas? |
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| 21:11.24 | itchi | Jeffro: Help that ? http://theory.gsi.de/~vanhees/compaq2/ |
| 21:11.29 | blondie | Maquiavelo: dunno |
| 21:11.38 | blondie | can you try it in another PC |
| 21:11.43 | blondie | to see if its corrupted or something |
| 21:11.48 | Jeffro | LOL |
| 21:11.51 | itchi | Jeffro: The adlib_card module |
| 21:11.53 | Jeffro | i was at that page ;) |
| 21:12.34 | Jeffro | looks hard :P |
| 21:12.35 | itchi | Jeffro: Like i have broke that laptop :-/ I can no more use it ;-) Not ask my why he have fall on the ground :-) |
| 21:12.36 | Jeffro | oh |
| 21:13.26 | Maquiavelo | blondie, Nah, it's good |
| 21:13.35 | Maquiavelo | blondie, Tried on my laptop, with windows :P |
| 21:14.04 | Jeffro | did it in modconf |
| 21:14.08 | Falc | Does anyone know why port 666 is open on my machine? |
| 21:14.10 | Jeffro | now run alsaconf? |
| 21:14.16 | Maquiavelo | Falc, Satan hacked you ! |
| 21:14.28 | itchi | Jeffro: try ;-) |
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| 21:14.38 | Falc | Is there a more reliable and serious answer? |
| 21:14.59 | Jeffro | nope :( |
| 21:15.07 | itchi | Falc: Satan love you :-/ |
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| 21:15.26 | itchi | Falc: No, seriously, try to google it about that port number?? |
| 21:15.30 | Falc | I have |
| 21:15.35 | Jeffro | 5:27] *** husky has joined chat #debian. rn[23:15:29] <itchi> Falc: No, seriously, try to google it about that port number??rn[23:15:30] * Falc sigh |
| 21:15.36 | Falc | And theres hardly anything on it |
| 21:15.39 | Jeffro | sorry |
| 21:15.42 | husky | http://en.fon.com/ |
| 21:16.00 | Jeffro | tried to modprobe it |
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| 21:16.25 | itchi | husky: No spam please! |
| 21:16.37 | Falc | tcp 0 0 localhost.localdoma:666 *:* LISTEN |
| 21:16.40 | husky | oki |
| 21:16.41 | itchi | husky: Here take the red pill and go one |
| 21:16.45 | stoned | what/ |
| 21:17.03 | Jeffro | itchi: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3qYDne41.html |
| 21:17.09 | stoned | pills |
| 21:17.16 | stoned | did someone say pill ;) |
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| 21:17.33 | itchi | Jeffro: Have you look on the dmesg output? |
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| 21:17.51 | Jeffro | thats how we determed my car type right? |
| 21:18.06 | Jeffro | adlib: must specify I/O address. |
| 21:18.08 | Jeffro | oh |
| 21:18.10 | Jeffro | xD |
| 21:18.11 | itchi | stoned: Yeah, which one want you, i have red, blue, mayby i guess i have some viagras one in my mail, wait i check for it ;-) |
| 21:18.18 | stoned | lol |
| 21:18.24 | aeronadix | hi, I am having trouble with my linux 2.6.16 kernel. I get kernel panic. "VFX: Cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown_block(0,0)" What should I do? |
| 21:18.51 | Jeffro | ptions sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330rn |
| 21:19.03 | jetscreamer | what is the usual alternate for mail when you can't use 25? 685 or some such? |
| 21:19.09 | Jeffro | where do i have to do that? |
| 21:19.26 | klync | aeronadix: reboot from your old kernel and make sure you have all the ide and filesystem drivers for the root volume |
| 21:19.27 | jetscreamer | you do that when you load the module jeffro |
| 21:19.45 | jetscreamer | /etc/modules i 'think' but i'm not positive |
| 21:20.02 | aeronadix | klync, I am in the old kernel now. SO my new kernel doesn't have the filesystem drivers? |
| 21:20.11 | itchi | Jeffro: After modprobe module options .... |
| 21:20.24 | klync | aeronadix: well, that's not necessarily the problem, but i'd look into that first |
| 21:20.33 | Jeffro | tried that |
| 21:20.45 | itchi | Jeffro: modprove <my_module> option foo=bar |
| 21:20.54 | itchi | Jeffro: oegf :-/ |
| 21:20.58 | klync | aeronadix: you might want to also check that your grub/lilo configuration is specifying the correct device, and also... are you using an initrd? |
| 21:20.59 | derek_ | what is the r number in 3.1 r2 ? |
| 21:21.07 | itchi | Jeffro: Understand? |
| 21:21.17 | jetscreamer | release |
| 21:21.28 | aeronadix | klync, grub looks correct to me, but yeah, the old kernel is initrd, and the new one isn't |
| 21:21.29 | derek_ | some mirrors have r1, some have r2, some have all from r1 to r6 |
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| 21:21.38 | derek_ | so I should get r6? |
| 21:21.40 | aeronadix | klync, I guess thats the problem then |
| 21:21.48 | jetscreamer | i've never heardof r6 |
| 21:21.51 | jetscreamer | just 2 |
| 21:21.54 | derek_ | how much differences are there between these releases of 3.1? |
| 21:21.54 | jetscreamer | so no idea |
| 21:22.06 | trivia | I need help, Please can someone help me find a repo and get it setup with debian 3.1 so that I can install an ftpd / |
| 21:22.10 | jetscreamer | i know r1 was borked |
| 21:22.15 | klync | aeronadix: so, is it possible that you had ide/fs (e.g. ext3) support in a module on the ramdisk for your old kernel, but need to build it in the kernel to avoid using an initrd with the new kernel? |
| 21:22.16 | itchi | derek_: Is that for the sarge one? |
| 21:22.19 | derek_ | oh sorry, r6 was of 3.0 |
| 21:22.25 | jetscreamer | !tell trivia -about apt-spy |
| 21:22.27 | Jeffro | huh |
| 21:22.27 | derek_ | itchi: that's right |
| 21:22.40 | derek_ | for 3.1, it is till r2 |
| 21:22.43 | Jeffro | http://rafb.net/paste/results/MJfKho39.html |
| 21:22.54 | aeronadix | klync, Yeah, that must be it precisely. You are thorough |
| 21:23.04 | Jeffro | look at it itchi |
| 21:23.12 | trivia | thank you jetscreamer |
| 21:23.22 | trivia | erm |
| 21:23.26 | jetscreamer | Jeffro: i've been there done that iirc and you need plug&play aware os turned off in the bios |
| 21:23.27 | trivia | says i havent got apt-spy |
| 21:23.27 | trivia | ;/ |
| 21:23.31 | klync | i'm trying to set up a router to act as a gateway between 192.16.2.0/24 and .1.0/24 ... all's fine except it won't forward packets between the interfaces... i've set ip_forward=yes in /etc/network/options .... any thoughts? |
| 21:23.39 | klync | aeronadix: :) |
| 21:23.45 | jetscreamer | apt-get install apt-spy, or you can d/l it from pdo |
| 21:23.47 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 21:23.47 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 21:24.16 | Jeffro | oh |
| 21:24.17 | Jeffro | ok |
| 21:24.20 | jetscreamer | or just use a default source, like ftp.debian.org |
| 21:24.22 | derek_ | is the 'current' release of 3.1 == unstable? |
| 21:24.23 | Jeffro | cya soon |
| 21:24.29 | jetscreamer | noit's stable/sarge |
| 21:24.30 | trivia | thanks |
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| 21:24.38 | dvs | derek_: no, 3.1 is etch (stable) |
| 21:24.41 | trivia | how do i install a .deb |
| 21:24.42 | trivia | lol |
| 21:24.43 | klync | aeronadix: also, if you want to use an initrd (i'm not a big fan), or even if not, you might want to look into the 'make-kpkg' program ... it makes a .deb for you |
| 21:24.44 | trivia | this is a nightmare |
| 21:24.48 | trivia | i come from a gentoo background :( |
| 21:24.52 | trivia | im so lost with debian |
| 21:25.00 | klync | trivia: dpkg -i {pkg.deb} |
| 21:25.01 | itchi | derek_: Invalid argument he say |
| 21:25.02 | aeronadix | klync, do you know about wireless networking? I have a usb dlink, and I tried host-ap but dmesg reported the usb device has no driver, then I installed linux-wlan-ng, and now dmesg doesn't say that, so I guess I have the driver installed, but iwconfig doesn't show any wireless extensions |
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| 21:25.06 | trivia | thank you |
| 21:25.07 | trivia | :D |
| 21:25.09 | dvs | trivia: you use apt-get or synaptic |
| 21:25.13 | aeronadix | klync, Yeah, thats what I am using, make-kpkg |
| 21:25.16 | trivia | cheers |
| 21:25.17 | klync | aeronadix: cool |
| 21:25.30 | itchi | derek_: Are these your own irq settings?? |
| 21:25.37 | derek_ | ? |
| 21:25.37 | klync | aeronadix: you can use lspci to get the vender/device id #'s... and google for the correct driver |
| 21:25.46 | derek_ | itchi: what? |
| 21:25.47 | klync | err, lsusb i guess |
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| 21:26.21 | aeronadix | klync, I did that, it must be prism2 or host-ap, or linux-wlan-ng |
| 21:26.21 | itchi | derek_: You have take that io=0x220 irq=5 0x220 and 5 are these been correct? Look in the bios, not take the same as that of the site ;-) |
| 21:26.23 | trivia | i thought apt-get dealt with deps ? |
| 21:26.44 | mahyar | how do you find out what process a file is being reserved with |
| 21:26.44 | trivia | its erroring saying it needs certain dependancys |
| 21:26.46 | dvs | trivia: apt-get grabs .debs from remote sites and installs them |
| 21:26.58 | trivia | how can I deal with deps |
| 21:26.58 | aeronadix | trivia, try apt-get update or something |
| 21:27.07 | dvs | trivia: including their dependencies. ;-) |
| 21:27.08 | itchi | derek_: It's been possible that your sound card use somethings orthes. You need to know these values :-/ but that you can get it of the bios, |
| 21:27.11 | trivia | i see |
| 21:27.14 | klync | mahyar: lsof, but its syntax is a bit arcane imo... you'll have to read the manpage |
| 21:27.22 | trivia | its not working for me |
| 21:27.25 | trivia | but i am rushing |
| 21:27.26 | trivia | hehe |
| 21:27.35 | klync | mahyar: i assume you mean which process has the file open / locked |
| 21:27.42 | dvs | trivia: paste /etc/apt/sources/list |
| 21:27.45 | dvs | trivia: paste /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:28.03 | dvs | !paste |
| 21:28.03 | dpkg | i guess paste is Do NOT paste into the channel. Use http://channels.debian.net/ |
| 21:28.33 | klync | aeronadix: did you check for new messages in dmesg after loading the module? |
| 21:28.36 | derek_ | sorry, it's not the 'current' release of 3.1, but just 'current'. Is it sarge too? |
| 21:29.28 | trivia | dvs currently the only entry is the cdrom |
| 21:29.42 | trivia | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0a _Sarge_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20050607)]/ unstable contrib main |
| 21:29.50 | trivia | i tried a couple from a howto, but they were useless |
| 21:30.15 | dvs | trivia: yeah, you'll want to set it to a ftp/http site if you have a fast internet connection |
| 21:30.25 | trivia | yea, its 100mbit (my dedi) |
| 21:30.29 | aeronadix | klync_afk, I am having trouble using insmod, do I have to be in a specific directory to use that command? |
| 21:30.36 | trivia | my host have messed me about really bad, and i need get the data off |
| 21:30.55 | trivia | currently apache cannot see the .tar with 53gb |
| 21:30.58 | trivia | no ftpd |
| 21:31.00 | trivia | i have no time |
| 21:31.06 | trivia | its really driving me insane!!!! |
| 21:31.20 | trivia | :( |
| 21:31.22 | trivia | so stressed |
| 21:31.36 | dvs | trivia: http://pastebin.ca/96372 |
| 21:32.13 | trivia | thanik you thats updating now |
| 21:32.15 | itchi | derek_: current reflect with that what are currently current, its Sarge r2 now |
| 21:32.28 | trivia | where are you frmo dvs |
| 21:32.41 | itchi | derek_: Problaly just an simlink |
| 21:32.44 | dvs | trivia: Toronto |
| 21:33.16 | trivia | im in london |
| 21:33.24 | dvs | Ontario? ;-) |
| 21:33.28 | trivia | hehe |
| 21:33.43 | trivia | by the smiles i guess you realised uk |
| 21:33.43 | trivia | hehe |
| 21:34.03 | dvs | trivia: then use uk instead of us |
| 21:34.05 | trivia | i didnt even know there was a london elsewere, untill one of those .wz weather bot things told me |
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| 21:34.13 | derek_ | ok |
| 21:34.14 | trivia | ahno u was right, because my host is in north america |
| 21:34.18 | trivia | hehe |
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| 21:35.19 | leafers | how do i install a graphics driver that ends in rpm.part? |
| 21:35.46 | leafers | fglrx_4_3_0-8.22.5-1.i386.rpm.part |
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| 21:35.59 | trivia | argh |
| 21:36.04 | trivia | what is apt-get -f install |
| 21:36.05 | trivia | all about |
| 21:36.09 | derek_ | ftp://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd |
| 21:36.15 | freeone3000 | It forces it. |
| 21:36.18 | derek_ | wtf! only MD5SUMS |
| 21:36.19 | itchi | leafers: not install it, its downloading ?? |
| 21:36.22 | trivia | its just tried to remove my kernel |
| 21:36.24 | freeone3000 | leafers: Well, a .part normally means an incomplete download. |
| 21:36.24 | derek_ | where is the ISO?? |
| 21:36.34 | leafers | oh ok |
| 21:36.37 | itchi | leafers: It's just an part of it, not complete?? |
| 21:36.44 | trivia | dvs |
| 21:36.45 | leafers | thx |
| 21:36.57 | trivia | would you entertain the idea, of sorting my box out so that i have a ftpd ? |
| 21:37.02 | freeone3000 | trivia: Well, I'd call that forcing it. |
| 21:37.10 | itchi | leafers: But btw not install that of an rpm lol |
| 21:37.20 | dvs | trivia: you have to do "apt-get update" first |
| 21:37.21 | trivia | freeone3000, i thought that.. but its telling me how bad the idea is as its going to remove the running kernel |
| 21:38.06 | trivia | dvs |
| 21:38.13 | trivia | i know its probebly out of the questin |
| 21:38.17 | trivia | but i cant cope with this fucking about |
| 21:38.20 | trivia | please could you take a look |
| 21:38.30 | trivia | i think ive created myself so many issues from pissing about with it |
| 21:38.37 | dvs | trivia: take a look at what? |
| 21:38.39 | freeone3000 | trivia: One of hte things you're trying to install probably needs a diffrent kernel version. |
| 21:38.40 | trivia | my server |
| 21:38.48 | derek_ | "pissing about with it"? |
| 21:38.57 | derek_ | seeshh |
| 21:39.04 | trivia | derek_, i have about an hour |
| 21:39.06 | trivia | 1 hour |
| 21:39.12 | trivia | to copy 53 gb from the server |
| 21:39.13 | trivia | before its terminated |
| 21:39.15 | dvs | trivia: what kernel do you have now? |
| 21:39.15 | itchi | derek_: look on another mirror?? Look's like it's missing on that server :-/ |
| 21:39.32 | trivia | thats what i call pissing about, wasting time |
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| 21:39.37 | derek_ | itchi: This is the second one I'm trying with the same result :/ |
| 21:39.50 | trivia | dvs: Linux debian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:39.55 | rkrush | How come the firefox package contains version 1.0.4? That seems extremely old :\ |
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| 21:40.13 | dvs | trivia: but that's the default kernel for sarge |
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| 21:40.19 | trivia | may i privmsg you |
| 21:40.33 | dvs | if you want |
| 21:40.37 | trivia | thanks |
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| 21:42.51 | itchi | derek_: Here an mirror near me it's been there http://ftp.tiscali.be/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 21:43.40 | derek_ | ok |
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| 21:44.02 | derek_ | I'm finding one near South Asia |
| 21:44.43 | itchi | derek_: Yeah, does not realy matter from where you get it, realy many diff, or if you go to search it manually ;-) |
| 21:45.12 | itchi | s/realy many diff/realy not many/ |
| 21:45.22 | itchi | bbrr |
| 21:45.54 | itchi | That keyboard is so fat here with these hot days /-: |
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| 21:46.05 | derek_ | found it |
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| 21:46.58 | tikka-trivia | anyone willing to install an ftpd on my server? |
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| 21:48.11 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Lazy guy! |
| 21:48.23 | tikka-trivia | no |
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| 21:48.28 | tikka-trivia | not at all |
| 21:48.38 | tikka-trivia | im really desperate to transfer data from a server |
| 21:48.41 | tikka-trivia | with no time to learn how |
| 21:48.49 | tikka-trivia | i have, maybe an hour at most |
| 21:48.56 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Do it yourself; never never give you're password on an person of irc!!! |
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| 21:49.39 | tikka-trivia | itchi |
| 21:49.41 | tikka-trivia | to be quite frank |
| 21:49.48 | tikka-trivia | they gain nothing |
| 21:49.52 | tikka-trivia | the machine will be terminated anyway |
| 21:50.04 | tikka-trivia | i do appreciate your concern though |
| 21:50.13 | tikka-trivia | :D |
| 21:50.14 | itchi | tikka-trivia: I'm not a such guy to kill; i just want to kill bill |
| 21:51.51 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Surious, you never know, also if the guy did the job right, it's been possible you get an bonus on. Somethings installed that you realy not want. |
| 21:52.07 | tikka-trivia | i know |
| 21:52.07 | tikka-trivia | but |
| 21:52.10 | tikka-trivia | the server will be terminated |
| 21:52.13 | tikka-trivia | by tomorrow |
| 21:52.21 | tikka-trivia | normally, I would struggle on my own |
| 21:52.26 | tikka-trivia | this is why I am so desperate |
| 21:52.37 | tikka-trivia | I normally have to much pride, than to ask someone to do it all for me |
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| 21:53.36 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Try to learn how to do it?? Next time it goes many faster |
| 21:53.39 | derek_ | itchi: I tried a mirror near me, and then yours. Yours is faster. Thanks! :) |
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| 21:54.33 | itchi | derek_: hehe ;-) |
| 21:54.34 | jeffro | yo |
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| 21:54.35 | tikka-trivia | itchi, may i privmsg? |
| 21:54.41 | tikka-trivia | i want to explain |
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| 21:54.46 | tikka-trivia | heh |
| 21:54.49 | jeffro | still not working, |
| 21:54.58 | jeffro | i dont have thatoption in the bios |
| 21:55.00 | jeffro | baka |
| 21:55.01 | jeffro | :P |
| 21:55.05 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Tell here?? I can not do that job you need lol. To long time ago |
| 21:55.41 | tikka-trivia | nah I was not asking you to fix, I wanted to explain why I am rushing so much and why comments like "learn" are no help to me right now |
| 21:56.17 | jeffro | oh and guys, i decided to screw the dsl requirement so i need some help here |
| 21:56.20 | itchi | tikka-trivia: Ok, gona prv if you want; but i'm realy bad with English, it's my 4 language ;-) |
| 21:56.28 | leafers | how do u convert an .rpm to a .deb? |
| 21:56.42 | jeffro | i want to install debian this time trough a net install but i dont have a cd anymore |
| 21:56.46 | itchi | leafers: Look to alien |
| 21:57.01 | itchi | leafers: But not DO that for your GFX driver!!! |
| 21:57.08 | jeffro | floppy is out of question, the machine is not usb bootable |
| 21:57.31 | itchi | leafers: Sure it will not work at 100% |
| 21:57.46 | jeffro | can i do a netinstall from here when i boot damn smalllinux? |
| 21:57.51 | itchi | leafers: It's been that fglrx that you want to convert? |
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| 21:58.38 | itchi | jeffro: Clean these partition, then boot of that Debian netinstall cd |
| 21:58.53 | jeffro | i just said, i dont have a cd anymore |
| 21:58.54 | itchi | jeffro: Make backup btw, if not already done |
| 21:59.21 | leafers | yea |
| 21:59.26 | jeffro | i dont have empty cd's or a debian netinstall cd |
| 21:59.31 | leafers | this one ends in .rpm |
| 21:59.31 | itchi | jeffro: Download that iso; burn it; and there you go ... ?? |
| 21:59.38 | itchi | jeffro: hhhmm |
| 21:59.48 | jeffro | i qoute, i dont have empty cd's x |
| 21:59.49 | jeffro | xD |
| 21:59.51 | itchi | leafers: NOT do that! |
| 22:00.29 | itchi | leafers: It's already broken enought that closed hardware, and if we are gona tell of his software ... :-/ |
| 22:00.58 | itchi | jeffro: Which distro are you running? |
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| 22:01.09 | itchi | jeffro: And version |
| 22:01.10 | jeffro | i am running damn small linux |
| 22:01.15 | jeffro | 3.01 |
| 22:01.24 | itchi | jeffro: oeps sorry, wrong person ,-) |
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| 22:01.27 | jeffro | its debian based :P |
| 22:01.28 | leafers | i re downloaded it |
| 22:01.47 | derek_ | I have to halt the download and shutdown the computer :/ It's burning. (hdd: 50 C, cpu: 59 C) |
| 22:01.52 | xri | ok, I just installed debian, and im in KDE< I just put a disk in, and went into media/cdrom and nothing shows, how do I access the CD? Thanks |
| 22:01.52 | itchi | leafers: It's to you i wanted to ask that, what i have ask on jeffro |
| 22:02.15 | jeffro | xri: mount it |
| 22:02.16 | leafers | how do u start alien |
| 22:02.18 | itchi | xri: What type of cd is it? |
| 22:02.30 | xri | jeffro: how |
| 22:02.33 | xri | itchi: data |
| 22:02.41 | jeffro | mmm, not sure, i havea automounter |
| 22:02.48 | itchi | leafers: alien fucking_thing_not_to_install.rpm |
| 22:02.53 | freeone3000 | What font packages must I install for all of the japanese fonts? |
| 22:03.13 | freeone3000 | Characters, rather. |
| 22:03.16 | xri | itchi: How do I mount it? |
| 22:03.16 | war95 | During a crash I restored from backup due to the SERIOUS xfs bug in 2.6.17 and 2.6.17.x, is there a way in Debian to make apt/dpkg set the default permissions on Debian's packages? |
| 22:03.28 | itchi | xri: CD is been mounted when you click on that cd icon? |
| 22:03.40 | itchi | xri: hhm im slow :-/ |
| 22:03.41 | jeffro | he has a cd icon? |
| 22:03.50 | xri | itchi: I dont see a CD icon |
| 22:03.52 | itchi | damn laptop |
| 22:04.05 | itchi | xri: You use konqueror? |
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| 22:04.16 | xri | itchi: that, and firefox.. |
| 22:04.21 | itchi | xri: mount /dev/cdrom normally |
| 22:04.27 | jeffro | xri, try installing emelfm |
| 22:04.39 | jeffro | rightclick /dev/cdrom mount |
| 22:04.49 | jeffro | should all work |
| 22:04.50 | derek_ | bbl |
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| 22:05.00 | itchi | xri: No i mean; which file manager, in your filemanager you have an little icon where you can click on it to get that cd mounted |
| 22:05.27 | xri | itchi: Yea, konqueror |
| 22:05.33 | freeone3000 | I dislike file managers... |
| 22:05.36 | xri | I have 2 CDroms, the one I want is the second one |
| 22:05.42 | freeone3000 | mount /dev/cdrom1 |
| 22:05.48 | freeone3000 | Assuming it's in /etc/fstab |
| 22:05.54 | jeffro | freeone3000, emelfm isreally neat you know |
| 22:05.54 | killown | jeffro use the automount autofs |
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| 22:06.10 | jeffro | huh |
| 22:06.20 | xri | Problem fixed |
| 22:06.22 | jeffro | i know how to mount :P |
| 22:06.35 | xri | mount /dev/cdrom made it go to media/cdrom0 |
| 22:06.37 | xri | ty all |
| 22:06.45 | jeffro | yw xri |
| 22:06.52 | killown | it mount your driver cdrom automatically |
| 22:07.06 | itchi | xri: Yeah, it's great to know, how to do that in cli mode |
| 22:07.33 | xri | Anyone have that problem when you start up, it shows the windows shut down screen for a second? |
| 22:07.51 | jeffro | no |
| 22:07.59 | xri | I think its just the video buffer |
| 22:08.04 | killown | xri switch windows manager |
| 22:08.07 | itchi | xri: Before the bootloader? |
| 22:08.13 | xri | during KDM startup |
| 22:08.20 | xri | so after |
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| 22:08.32 | jeffro | and anyone, can i do a netinstall without cd, floppy or usb stick? |
| 22:08.33 | xri | only for 3 seconds |
| 22:08.44 | pipeline | jeffro: Of course. |
| 22:08.49 | xri | debootstrap? |
| 22:08.51 | pipeline | jeffro: You can boot the installer off the network. |
| 22:08.57 | jeffro | xD |
| 22:09.02 | jeffro | its a pentium 1 |
| 22:09.04 | pipeline | jeffro: I'm not kidding, jackass. |
| 22:09.17 | jeffro | doubt it has the functioning |
| 22:09.21 | pipeline | uhhh |
| 22:09.24 | pipeline | does it have PCI slots? |
| 22:09.28 | jeffro | yeah |
| 22:09.36 | pipeline | Problem solved. The functionality is available. |
| 22:09.37 | jeffro | and yes ithas a network card |
| 22:09.48 | jeffro | its not in my bios |
| 22:09.53 | pipeline | PCI slots mean that you can install a network card with option ROMs. |
| 22:10.05 | pipeline | e.g. 3com, Intel. |
| 22:10.12 | jeffro | i know that |
| 22:10.21 | pipeline | Given that they're now about a buck apiece, there's no excuse for generic pieces of shit. |
| 22:10.36 | jeffro | ... |
| 22:10.53 | jeffro | then how the .... do i network boot? |
| 22:11.01 | xri | When I install a system with net install, to install x window, should I use apt-get install x-window-system-core, or just x-window-system? |
| 22:11.25 | dvs | xri: it depends how much you want. |
| 22:11.38 | xri | dvs: How much more is in the non-core? |
| 22:11.43 | jeffro | pipelinerrrrr, answer me then? |
| 22:11.53 | dvs | xri: a LOT more. games, apps, etc |
| 22:12.12 | xri | dvs: But all the drivers and essentials are in core? |
| 22:12.19 | dvs | xri: yes |
| 22:12.27 | xri | dvs: ok, off to install again, ty |
| 22:12.33 | robin_sz | jeffro, just install a network boot rom on the card ... easy |
| 22:12.35 | dvs | you're welcome |
| 22:12.52 | jeffro | so im still nowhere |
| 22:12.53 | pipeline | jeffro: Usually, it'll prompt you to hit a button. |
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| 22:13.05 | jeffro | i dont have a boot rom |
| 22:13.11 | pipeline | robin_sz: That hasn't been necessary since the age of PXE. |
| 22:13.42 | pipeline | jeffro: You don't need special EPROMs anymore; any decent card will have a PXE ROM on it. |
| 22:13.44 | robin_sz | pxe? |
| 22:13.53 | pipeline | robin_sz: A boot standard for PCs. |
| 22:14.06 | robin_sz | never heard of it |
| 22:14.14 | jeffro | but i dont get the option of booting it that way |
| 22:14.18 | jeffro | -_-" |
| 22:14.25 | jeffro | any other way |
| 22:14.29 | itchi | !pxe |
| 22:14.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, pxe is a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php |
| 22:14.30 | jeffro | can a livecd help? |
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| 22:15.02 | jeffro | is it possible to boot my dsl livecd and then anyhow boot the debian installer |
| 22:15.39 | tikka-trivia | anyone here used axel ? |
| 22:15.53 | dvs | no |
| 22:15.57 | xri | Sorry to bother y'all once more, but how do I apt-get firefox 1.5 on sarge? |
| 22:16.08 | jeffro | ok i doubt i can install debian without a empty cd, floppy or usb stick and a damn pxe |
| 22:16.10 | tikka-trivia | its very good for http transfer, but it seems to not support ftp hehe what a bummer |
| 22:16.13 | Gnea | !backports |
| 22:16.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 22:16.22 | Gnea | xri: use backports |
| 22:16.40 | tikka-trivia | dvs: privmsg again |
| 22:16.50 | dvs | zri: apt-get mozilla-firefox |
| 22:16.54 | dvs | tikka-trivia: ok |
| 22:16.56 | jeffro | ok i doubt i can install debian without a empty cd, floppy or usb stick and a damn pxe |
| 22:17.02 | jeffro | am i right ppl? |
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| 22:17.27 | xri | Nice, I can just download the firefox folder and run the file in it :S |
| 22:17.31 | Gnea | jeffro: it doesn't install out of nowhere... |
| 22:17.43 | jeffro | i know |
| 22:17.48 | Gnea | !ppl |
| 22:17.48 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 22:18.22 | jeffro | but isnt it possible to boot a livecd and running a executeable |
| 22:18.29 | jeffro | for installing debian |
| 22:18.36 | Gnea | uhm |
| 22:18.38 | jeffro | eh, people |
| 22:18.41 | Gnea | you could do it as a chroot |
| 22:18.49 | jeffro | chroot? |
| 22:18.51 | jeffro | !chroot |
| 22:18.51 | dpkg | from memory, chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 22:18.52 | Gnea | chroot |
| 22:19.14 | Gnea | yeah, check the website for installation methods |
| 22:19.51 | stoned | price per litr is more logical |
| 22:20.11 | Gnea | heh |
| 22:20.14 | stoned | fuckin keybaord |
| 22:21.41 | jeffro | checked the site |
| 22:21.50 | jeffro | i cant install debian here for free ;( |
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| 22:22.06 | Gnea | nothing is truely 'free' |
| 22:22.13 | dvs | air? |
| 22:22.16 | Gnea | sometimes you gotta buy a sandwich |
| 22:22.25 | jeffro | i need to buy cd's or floppys, and im broke :( |
| 22:22.30 | Gnea | dvs: don't get me started :) |
| 22:22.32 | jeffro | alowence in 8 days |
| 22:22.34 | dvs | heheheh |
| 22:22.46 | jeffro | 5 euro xD |
| 22:22.55 | Gnea | allowance? |
| 22:22.59 | Gnea | oh |
| 22:23.00 | jeffro | yeah |
| 22:23.04 | Gnea | heh, i remember that |
| 22:23.05 | jeffro | 5 euro a monht |
| 22:23.07 | Gnea | it's been years |
| 22:23.08 | jeffro | month |
| 22:23.13 | jeffro | im 16 :P |
| 22:23.18 | Gnea | :) |
| 22:23.23 | jeffro | pretty smart though in these streets |
| 22:23.39 | Gnea | that's why i have a job, paychecks own allowances |
| 22:23.43 | jeffro | when i got my diploma i got a book on internet :P |
| 22:24.00 | jeffro | im still waiting for answer of our local supermarket |
| 22:24.43 | jeffro | well, this requires me to leave dsl on this pc |
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| 22:24.57 | jeffro | BUT I STILL CANT USE ALSA XD |
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| 22:25.40 | jeffro | !caps |
| 22:25.40 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put _* on both sides of them. _emphasize_ them. |
| 22:25.55 | jeffro | sorry dpkg :'( |
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| 22:26.16 | jeffro | !Jeffro |
| 22:26.25 | stoned | lol |
| 22:26.32 | jeffro | :D:D:D |
| 22:26.45 | jeffro | hehe |
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| 22:28.41 | itchi | jeffro: yeah and give Debian an try :-p |
| 22:29.33 | ggeecko | anyone here ever tried ifolder |
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| 22:31.52 | darknessofevil | meh... i don't like novells stuff |
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| 22:36.35 | klync | i'm trying to set up a router to act as a gateway between 192.168.2.0/24 and .1.0/24 ... all's fine except it won't forward packets between the interfaces... i've set ip_forward=yes in /etc/network/options and put iptables -j ACCEPT on the forward chain in both directions.... any thoughts? |
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| 22:38.43 | glut | klync: did you rebooted box after seting up /etc/network/options ? or /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
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| 22:38.58 | klync | glut: yeah |
| 22:39.15 | klync | glut: my routes look good, iptables looks good... any idea where to even check? |
| 22:39.55 | glut | hm, it might be complex |
| 22:40.11 | klync | ha |
| 22:40.18 | glut | start from flushing all filters |
| 22:40.21 | glut | it might be it |
| 22:40.29 | glut | try sysctl -a | grep ip_forward |
| 22:40.47 | glut | and check it is really tunred on |
| 22:40.50 | glut | turned* |
| 22:40.55 | klync | glut: oh, this is interesting... i did grep forward, and everything is off |
| 22:40.56 | klync | :/ |
| 22:41.38 | glut | another happy customer :) |
| 22:41.55 | glut | btw. /etc/network/options are deprecated |
| 22:42.09 | klync | glut: oh, thx... should i just put these in /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 22:42.14 | glut | yep. |
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| 22:46.51 | undesktop | I need a good sourcecode editor for Linux; gedit and several k*s are allready out, scite, vim and emacs are also out; what could I try next? |
| 22:47.18 | Alam_Debian | gvim with cream? |
| 22:47.25 | klync | undesktop: idunno why you say those ones are out, but i like jedit... i'm mainly an html/php/bash writer |
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| 22:47.46 | klync | undesktop: i like jedit partly bc it's the same on any platform |
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| 22:48.13 | undesktop | klync: package jedit not found; does it use java? then it will be too slow |
| 22:48.15 | stew | undesktop: if you are going to be concentrating on one language in particular you might look for one that is specific to that language, but you probably should pick whichever is more comfortable of vim and emacs and try to get good with one of those |
| 22:48.22 | undesktop | Alam_Debian: gvim with cream? what's cream? |
| 22:48.43 | klync | undesktop: jdk 1.4 is pretty fast... it's a pretty good editor... i just added the jedit debs to my apt.conf |
| 22:48.57 | klync | (and installed a jdk by hand, of course) |
| 22:49.06 | sid | If I do "apt-get build-dep gftp" is there some easy command to remove those deps when I'm done? ie "apt-get remove-build-dep gftp" |
| 22:49.07 | undesktop | stew: the big problem with vim/emacs is, that these don't support the keystrokes I'm used to |
| 22:49.34 | Alam_Debian | like ctrl-f for find and ctrl-g for line? |
| 22:49.55 | undesktop | klync: sorry, by experience, no Java GUI program was ever "fast" enough, independent from the VM, I guess my PC is too old |
| 22:50.16 | undesktop | Alam_Debian: and ctrl+insert for pasting text from the clipboard and such |
| 22:50.23 | klync | undesktop: don't be sorry... i don't work for sun ;) ... what's your processor/ram? |
| 22:50.37 | undesktop | (actually shift+insert) |
| 22:50.46 | Alam_Debian | only ctrl+XCV for me |
| 22:50.52 | undesktop | klync: 400 mhz, 256 MB ram |
| 22:51.27 | stoned | you should move into the new century dude |
| 22:51.36 | stoned | its been 6 and a half years already |
| 22:51.37 | klync | undesktop: k, you might have a point... but if you have a recent jvm, i'd still recommend installing it, even just in your user's homedir to take it for a spin |
| 22:51.51 | klync | s/it/jedit/g |
| 22:52.25 | undesktop | btw, gedit would be good, if it would have some better source code editing capabilities; and scite would be good if it wouldn't be so slow and buggy |
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| 23:02.32 | stew | undesktop: both vim and emacs are, of course, completely customizable |
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| 23:03.57 | freeone3000 | What font packages must I install for all of the japanese characters? |
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| 23:04.42 | undesktop | stew: even to take keystrokes like shift+insert? or select text on ctrl+arrow key? |
| 23:05.10 | fasta | I have a file which is a manpage. How can I view that file with man? I tried man man, already. |
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| 23:06.29 | stew | undesktop: yup |
| 23:06.39 | freeone3000 | What font packages must I install for all of the japanese characters? |
| 23:06.50 | undesktop | stew: great! how? |
| 23:06.57 | klync | fasta: iirc, you can do man /path/to/file ... i think |
| 23:07.36 | efaistos | ledet: |
| 23:07.36 | undesktop | stew: I remind someone saying it wouldn't be possible, but that's past back some time... |
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| 23:07.41 | fasta | klync: You didn't remember correctly. |
| 23:07.43 | dondelelcaro | freeone3000: xfonts-intl-japanese and ttf-arphic-ukai should have most of them. |
| 23:07.48 | klync | fasta: heh... sorry |
| 23:07.50 | freeone3000 | Thank you. |
| 23:08.03 | klync | fasta: man -f /path/to/file ? |
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| 23:08.14 | freeone3000 | Reccomends xserver-xfree86? They offer xfree again? |
| 23:08.21 | dondelelcaro | fasta: you can, actually... |
| 23:08.31 | dondelelcaro | fasta: try man /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz |
| 23:08.52 | fasta | klync: You are right. |
| 23:08.57 | klync | fasta: wooty |
| 23:08.59 | fasta | I tried man foo |
| 23:09.03 | fasta | Instead of man ./foo |
| 23:09.15 | fasta | The former doesn't work. The latter does. |
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| 23:09.42 | undesktop | klync: ouch... jedit deadlocked when opening a simple small file |
| 23:09.54 | klync | undesktop: oh wow... which jdk? |
| 23:10.01 | undesktop | 1.5 |
| 23:10.15 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: you mean that the process is in uninteruptible IO sleep? |
| 23:10.34 | klync | undesktop: i've used it with sun's jdk-1.5 ... used it on mac, win, and linux without much problem ... sorry 'bout your luck |
| 23:10.40 | undesktop | dondelelcaro: I don't know what's it doing, but it eats no CPU time and it doesn't redraw its window |
| 23:11.02 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: ps axfu|less; and look what the process state is |
| 23:12.26 | undesktop | I killed and restarted it... now it even locked up in the "file system browser" |
| 23:12.55 | dondelelcaro | undesktop: look at dmesg; odds are you've got filesystem errors that are causing IO to deadlock in the kernel. |
| 23:13.12 | rhys | does anyone have a preferance or a list of those? file system browsers? as in, windows explorer, gnome nautilis |
| 23:13.24 | dondelelcaro | 1) ls |
| 23:13.39 | undesktop | dondelelcaro: there's nothing in the dmesg log and ls works |
| 23:13.42 | rhys | dondelelcaro, bit more advanced. Rox is one. |
| 23:14.02 | dondelelcaro | well, ls is pretty advanced... but if you have to have a curses interface, there are things like mc and the illk |
| 23:14.14 | freeone3000 | mp3blaster! |
| 23:14.23 | freeone3000 | mplayer -vo aa... |
| 23:14.31 | freeone3000 | Oh. File sys utils. |
| 23:14.41 | rhys | dondelelcaro, X. X MAN! THE PRETTY WINDOWS THAT COMPUTERS MADE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE!! |
| 23:14.42 | undesktop | now it could open the file |
| 23:14.58 | dondelelcaro | rhys: X's job is to display lots of xterms. |
| 23:15.27 | rhys | dondelelcaro, do you live in a grass hut in montana? |
| 23:15.31 | undesktop | dondelelcaro: and to make the computer slow |
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| 23:16.13 | rhys | may the advances of technology slap you in the face, untill you accept that we can now have a streamlined view of data, in the form of GUI. |
| 23:16.36 | freeone3000 | Meh. w3c and aalib are good enough. :) |
| 23:16.42 | dondelelcaro | rhys: clearly not... I most likely just deal with more files on more computers than you do; I've used file browsers in the 80s... and having moved on to using command line exclusively, I've no need to go back. |
| 23:17.03 | freeone3000 | dondelelcaro: What about movies? |
| 23:17.09 | freeone3000 | dondelelcaro: You can see them IN COLOR if you have X.. |
| 23:17.09 | rhys | dondelelcaro, would you please explain to me how im going to view ctrlaldel and reallifecomics? |
| 23:17.32 | freeone3000 | rhys: w3m comic, download the image, mplayer -vo aa -fps 0 |
| 23:18.00 | rhys | freeone3000, or maybe just open an opera session to "comics" which automaticly loads the newest strip? |
| 23:18.01 | dondelelcaro | you misunderstand me; X is great for showing pictures, websites, etc. It's just that all filebrowsers currently extant suck. They trade initial ease of use for ease of use when you actually know what you're doing. |
| 23:18.34 | freeone3000 | rhys: Meh, too much work. :P |
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| 23:19.11 | rhys | dondelelcaro, dont get me wrong. i fall back to the command line and have a good handfuls of &&, and just press enter. but sometimes i like my mouse and explorer |
| 23:19.30 | rhys | now. brb, gonna get Kanotix up. |
| 23:19.37 | dondelelcaro | rhys: sure, you're welcome to use whatever you want. I have a feeling that eventually you'll end up back at the command line... |
| 23:19.49 | dondelelcaro | I just can't recommend something that I personally don't use. |
| 23:19.54 | rhys | for which shutdown -h -t00 now works better than logging out and using kdm. |
| 23:20.06 | freeone3000 | &&? Who needs && when you have |! |
| 23:20.23 | dondelelcaro | ? |
| 23:20.25 | rhys | freeone, multiple commands maybe? |
| 23:20.26 | freeone3000 | Well, everyone. |
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| 23:25.43 | rhys | wow |
| 23:25.45 | rhys | kanotix rocks |
| 23:25.53 | rhys | shame it runs kde as default |
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| 23:27.01 | rhys | what is the red line across chat? |
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| 23:33.21 | centrx | ? |
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| 23:34.21 | rhys | nothing. its a marker line |
| 23:34.26 | sid | !tell rhys about based on debian |
| 23:34.31 | sid | !tell rhys about kanotix |
| 23:34.38 | sid | rhys: /join #kanotix |
| 23:34.39 | rhys | yea. i know. not here |
| 23:34.52 | rhys | i just fucking mentioned it. i wasnt asking anything, nor saying anything more. |
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| 23:35.14 | sid | !tell rhys about ot |
| 23:36.04 | dondelelcaro | sid: lay off with the bot abuse... |
| 23:36.16 | rhys | sid, as of the topic, telling me its offtopic is off topic. i just fucking mentioned it |
| 23:37.58 | rhys | and you know something else, if someone is not talking about the debian installer, getting debian, using apt or its frontends or backends, or some other piece of knowledge that is specific -only- to debian, its offtopic. which means it should be also forbidden to mention in #debian. |
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| 23:39.23 | rhys | maybe then it makes sense. ubuntu customizes everything, therefor you should be able to talk about the entire OS in #ubuntu. maybe thats why there the top of distrowatch, and not debian. |
| 23:40.17 | dondelelcaro | rhys: what are you talking about? So long as it's related to Debian, it's appropriate to talk about it here. |
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| 23:40.40 | dondelelcaro | rhys: the later half of your argument just seems to be asking for someone to react. |
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| 23:41.13 | rhys | dondelelcaro, im here to help, and to learn. I just get tired when things are -exactly- for debian, alot of the channel flips at them. I have seen dpkg used for that exact purpose far too many times, when a simple answer would suffice |
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| 23:41.19 | rhys | arent* |
| 23:41.36 | startxwhite | i am a newbie. i run gnu/linux debian sarge stock kernel 2.6.8-3 and installed the madwifi drivers the Debian way. My laptop wifi card is airlink awlc4030 (ar5212) and my system freezes less than 1 minute after getting a wifi connection |
| 23:41.50 | startxwhite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:42.05 | dondelelcaro | rhys: if you have a problem with it, just ignore it... It's appropriate to tell people that we can't support non Debian distributions here, but beyond that is inapropriate, as I've already pointed out. |
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| 23:42.27 | rhys | ^^ that for example dondelelcaro. that would be a madwifi problem. thats what ive seen pointed out and users told to go elsewhere. thats bullshit. |
| 23:42.30 | dondelelcaro | startxwhite: hrm... I've got that same card working fine. |
| 23:43.04 | startxwhite | same kernel as my laptop? |
| 23:43.24 | dondelelcaro | startxwhite: no, actually... I'm runing 2.6.17 or so from sid... on both ppc and i386. |
| 23:43.45 | startxwhite | you are running sid but i ran sarge |
| 23:43.55 | startxwhite | i still do run sarge |
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| 23:44.08 | dondelelcaro | startxwhite: yes, I know... it just seems unusual to have triggered the HAL error |
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| 23:44.18 | dondelelcaro | !+info madwifi-source sarge |
| 23:44.19 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 23:44.20 | dondelelcaro | !+info madwifi-source sid |
| 23:44.22 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 23:44.24 | dpkg | madwifi-source: (source for the Multiband Atheros Driver for WiFi), section non-free/net, is optional. Version: 0.svnr1680.0.9.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3414 kB, Installed size: 3472 kB |
| 23:44.25 | dpkg | Package 'madwifi-source' does not exist. |
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| 23:45.19 | sid | That source is old |
| 23:45.35 | dondelelcaro | could be; iirc, it is what I'm using |
| 23:45.38 | startxwhite | dondelelcaro: do you know anyone running sarge who happens to use my wifi card? |
| 23:45.54 | sid | startxwhite: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` wireless-tools build-essential bzip2 subversion; cd /usr/src; svn checkout |
| 23:45.54 | sid | http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng ; cd madwifi-ng; touch noask; make; make install; modprobe ath_pci; echo |
| 23:45.54 | sid | "ath_pci" >> /etc/modules; dhclient ath0; |
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| 23:46.03 | sid | er; that was supposed to be one line. |
| 23:46.17 | dondelelcaro | startxwhite: not off hand; what version of the madwifi drivers are you using? |
| 23:46.48 | startxwhite | dondelelcaro: i am a newbie. how can i find out? |
| 23:47.03 | dondelelcaro | startxwhite: well, for starters, which instructions did you follow to build them? |
| 23:47.33 | dondelelcaro | since the madwifi-source packages necessary to build it "the debian way" is only in testing and sid |
| 23:47.33 | startxwhite | the ones on the madwifi site the Debian way |
| 23:47.51 | sid | startxwhite: madwifi or madwifi-ng? |
| 23:48.04 | startxwhite | i do not know |
| 23:48.55 | startxwhite | but i have madwifi-source 0.svnr1644.0.9 madwifi-tools 0.svnr1644.0.9 |
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| 23:49.05 | saftsack | hi |
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| 23:49.28 | saftsack | is it possible, that apt shows me all installed packages? |
| 23:49.36 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 23:49.36 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 23:49.36 | sid | saftsack: dpkg -al |
| 23:49.48 | sid | saftsack: That is an old commit. |
| 23:49.50 | sid | er |
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| 23:49.59 | sid | startxwhite: That is an old commit. |
| 23:50.21 | sid | startxwhite: I would type this # apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` wireless-tools build-essential bzip2 subversion; cd /usr/src; svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng ; cd madwifi-ng; touch noask; make; make install; modprobe ath_pci; echo "ath_pci" >> /etc/modules; dhclient ath0; |
| 23:50.27 | startxwhite | shall i remove the madwifi debs i installed? |
| 23:50.36 | sid | startxwhite: You should be set with that command.; just change linux-headers to kernel-headers; |
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| 23:50.52 | sid | startxwhite: yes |
| 23:51.06 | startxwhite | sid: are your instructions for sarge or sid? |
| 23:51.19 | sid | startxwhite: etch/sid |
| 23:51.24 | helldomain | Hi, I think I need an advice. I need some sort of distributed file system which will allow to: simply add storage nodes, simply add clients, allow failover through saving copies of files on multiple nodes. Does anyone know something usable? |
| 23:51.31 | sid | startxwhite: I would type this # apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` wireless-tools build-essential bzip2 subversion; cd /usr/src; svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng ; cd madwifi-ng; touch noask; make; make install; modprobe ath_pci; echo "ath_pci" >> /etc/modules; dhclient ath0; |
| 23:51.38 | sid | That will work for sarge startxwhite.(I think?) |
| 23:51.58 | saftsack | sid, thx :) |
| 23:51.59 | sid | !tell helldomain about nfs |
| 23:52.18 | helldomain | sid: nfs is not a distributed file system |
| 23:52.25 | torfinn | I am looking at a CD debian-edu...2.0.iso (CD burn) , there is an associated file "deb..edu-bin-1.raw" for subsequent update sarge to etch. How am I supposed to use the ....raw file ? |
| 23:53.00 | sid | helldomain: I dunno then. I use a ftp server called drftpd that does what you want. But I don't think you want that. |
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| 23:53.16 | sid | torfinn: You want to upgrade from sarge to etch? |
| 23:53.41 | torfinn | YEs, I want to try the debian edu, then try to upgrade - for experiment |
| 23:53.51 | undesktop | LOL |
| 23:53.53 | helldomain | sid: drftpd i definitely not the right solution for me :-) |
| 23:53.55 | sid | torfinn: What is debian edu? |
| 23:54.20 | undesktop | I select some gvim menu point and all it does is to mess up the buffer window... especially the Edit->Options menu point |
| 23:54.32 | startxwhite | sid: do i have to edit my /etc/apt/sources.list for *your* instructions to work? |
| 23:54.34 | torfinn | Debian edu == a Debian derivative aka Skolelinux |
| 23:54.50 | sid | startxwhite: no |
| 23:55.14 | sid | startxwhite: Everything that apt-get installs is in sarge main section I believe. |
| 23:55.20 | startxwhite | sid: ok. thanks. i'll be back later |
| 23:55.28 | undesktop | conclusion: gvim sucks |
| 23:56.05 | rhys | Nano! |
| 23:56.12 | sid | !tell torfinn about Skolelinux |
| 23:56.16 | rhys | joe is better though |
| 23:56.49 | undesktop | rhys: I want an advanced text editor, not something from the 80ies |
| 23:57.13 | rhys | whats that i hear? CLI not good enough? :D |
| 23:57.14 | undesktop | rhys: nano is something on the level of MS-DOS edit |
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| 23:57.39 | freeone3000 | Nu-uh. It has cursor control. |
| 23:57.45 | freeone3000 | Vim is quite nice. |
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| 23:58.06 | undesktop | why not use sed |
| 23:58.18 | freeone3000 | Sed's an editor now? |
| 23:58.29 | freeone3000 | I just use it as a pregex parser. |
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| 23:59.24 | rhys | apt has super cow powers. what does that mean? |
