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| 00:01.32 | abrotman | madd_matt: #hardware |
| 00:01.38 | balrog | i found what i was looking for; thanks very much widrone; good bye everyone, see yo next time |
| 00:01.45 | balrog | you* |
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| 00:02.28 | widrone | Heh happy "customer", and all I did was !tldp O_o |
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| 00:03.04 | dbingham | #exit |
| 00:03.15 | abrotman | dbingham: try again |
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| 00:03.32 | dbingham | Doh, noob to IRC, still learning the comands |
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| 00:05.21 | Smerdy | I once did something to get apt not to upgrade a package anymore. Can anyone point me to how to undo that? |
| 00:05.32 | abrotman | !tell Smerdy about hold |
| 00:05.53 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: they finally got syslog-ng fixed (the facilities and such) |
| 00:06.06 | bkudria | can someone help me use lmsensors? if i run sensors i get: "Can't access procfs/sysfs file Unable to find i2c bus information; For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors was compiled with sysfs support!"...i have 2.6.16 stock kernel, and sysfs is mounted...what do i do? |
| 00:06.40 | streuner | bkudria: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 00:07.27 | bkudria | streuner: "Linux version 2.6.16-1-k7 (Debian 2.6.16-12) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.4 20060422 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.3-2)) #2 Thu May 4 18:35:10 UTC 2006" |
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| 00:08.17 | Smerdy | abrotman, thanks. |
| 00:08.54 | streuner | bkudria: etch or sid? |
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| 00:09.09 | nevyn | bkudria: do you have the modules loaded for your sensors? |
| 00:10.01 | bkudria | streuner: sid |
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| 00:10.09 | f- | hi. im trying to start sendmail and im getting: Restarting Transport Agent: sendmail554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 499: readcf: option TrustedUser: unknown user smmta chown: `root:smmsp': invalid group |
| 00:10.16 | bkudria | nevyn: i have no clue...i have a soyo mb with via chipsets |
| 00:10.29 | abrotman | f-: does that group exist in /etc/groups ? |
| 00:10.48 | bkudria | nevyn: but i do have i2c_viapro and i2c_core loaded, so i assume yes |
| 00:11.07 | streuner | bkudria: did you run 'sensors-detect'? |
| 00:11.18 | f- | abrotman, you mean /etc/group ? |
| 00:11.21 | abrotman | yeah |
| 00:11.30 | f- | no it doesn't |
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| 00:12.31 | bkudria | streuner: no... |
| 00:13.16 | f- | abrotman, i upgraded to sarge recently |
| 00:13.22 | abrotman | so? |
| 00:14.06 | f- | i have group/group-/group.org in /etc |
| 00:14.29 | abrotman | in /etc/group |
| 00:14.30 | bkudria | streuner: ok, just ran it, it added some lines to /etc/modules... |
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| 00:14.39 | bkudria | streuner: it works now, thanks! |
| 00:14.55 | streuner | bkudria: thank nevyn |
| 00:15.15 | bkudria | nevyn: thanks! |
| 00:15.38 | bkudria | streuner: except my psu voltages are all off, and have ALARM...is this a calibration issue? |
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| 00:16.12 | d`arcy | Hi. I have 2 internet links and have followed the lartc.org multiple links howto, but outbound traffic belonging to one link shows up in the other. http://pastebin.com/754646 has the configuration and traffic sample, can anyone take a look ? |
| 00:16.18 | streuner | bkudria: well, some chipsets aren't support in lmsensors |
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| 00:16.48 | jplibre | other than dmidecode, what else can I use to find out information about the DIMMs installed on a system? |
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| 00:16.54 | f- | abrotman, well? |
| 00:17.06 | abrotman | f-: is the group in there? |
| 00:17.06 | jplibre | dmidecode can be a bunch of lies anyway :) |
| 00:17.07 | streuner | bkudria: take a look in the config file of lmsensors (/etc/ |
| 00:17.17 | f- | abrotman, no |
| 00:17.26 | abrotman | f-: that'd be why it's failing |
| 00:17.32 | MuhamedRulz | LasT_IdIoT qetu sit nejsh ki me msu |
| 00:17.34 | MuhamedRulz | debianin |
| 00:17.34 | krassy | on my debian i have installed both gnome and kde. How i can stop gnome and start kde ? |
| 00:17.46 | f- | abrotman, what gid do i give it |
| 00:17.49 | MuhamedRulz | anyone here from albania, kosovo, macedonia... |
| 00:17.58 | LasT_IdIoT | MuhamedRulz jam tu i mshu :P |
| 00:18.01 | abrotman | f-: fix your sendmail or create hte group |
| 00:18.09 | stew | MuhamedRulz: LasT_IdIoT: english only in here please |
| 00:18.09 | abrotman | LasT_IdIoT: MuhamedRulz : take it elsewhere |
| 00:18.13 | nix | d'arcy: it has been a while since i messed with that. i don't see why you need to add P[234]]_NET to T1, and P[34]_NET to T2 |
| 00:18.29 | simonrvn | they are already, in several; /wi MuhamedRulz |
| 00:18.34 | f- | abrotman, yeah, but what gid do i give ssma after adding it to the system? |
| 00:18.41 | LasT_IdIoT | ok :P |
| 00:18.41 | streuner | !ops MuhamedRulz LasT_IdIoT have the same IP... |
| 00:18.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: streuner complains about: MuhamedRulz LasT_IdIoT have the same IP... |
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| 00:18.48 | abrotman | streuner: not hey don't |
| 00:18.51 | f- | smmsp i mean |
| 00:18.58 | d`arcy | nix: just because of the note in the howto, "Reader Rod Roark notes: 'If $P0_NET is the local network and $IF0 is its interface, the following additional entries are desirable:" |
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| 00:19.09 | streuner | abrotman: true :-) |
| 00:19.11 | abrotman | f-: dunno .. i stopped using sendmail a long time ago |
| 00:19.25 | abrotman | #sendmail does exist |
| 00:19.25 | simonrvn | streuner: they do not |
| 00:19.25 | bkudria | streuner: that looks really scary...what do i *do*? |
| 00:19.26 | f- | oh |
| 00:19.39 | nix | d`arcy: besides that, i seem to remember using 'ip rule add to $IP1' as well, to make sure traffic targeted to that IP goes over the same table |
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| 00:20.01 | d`arcy | thanks nix, I'll look into that |
| 00:20.03 | nix | d`arcy, and lines 44-46 are identical, doesn't seem right |
| 00:20.05 | MuhamedRulz | abrotman ok man sorry |
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| 00:20.14 | MuhamedRulz | we are from macedonia :S |
| 00:20.18 | MuhamedRulz | a litle country |
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| 00:20.25 | MuhamedRulz | and we wana teach smth here :d |
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| 00:20.30 | Kiowas | hello |
| 00:20.30 | abrotman | we know where macedonia is .. this is not a social channel |
| 00:20.35 | LasT_IdIoT | yeah :) |
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| 00:20.37 | amor | hi |
| 00:20.47 | Kiowas | how do I install the java plugin for firefox and konqueror using apt-get? |
| 00:20.49 | MuhamedRulz | we know abt that |
| 00:20.53 | d`arcy | nix: they're aliased IPs, I masked them out for privacy |
| 00:20.54 | abrotman | !tell Kiowas about install java |
| 00:21.04 | MuhamedRulz | but we don`t know what does here working for ? |
| 00:21.10 | MuhamedRulz | !tell MuhamedRulz about install java |
| 00:21.12 | d`arcy | that interface has 5 IPs |
| 00:21.26 | nix | d`arcy, either way, I don't remember me using any other tables than just the ones I want to policy-route for. never used lo for example |
| 00:21.32 | amor | i not speak in english. quien habla espaƱol??? |
| 00:21.37 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:21.37 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:21.37 | nix | !es |
| 00:21.38 | simonrvn | MuhamedRulz: it's for getting, and giving help for and to debian users |
| 00:21.51 | bkudria | streuner: i have a via sensor...do i need to uncomment anything? |
| 00:22.05 | MuhamedRulz | ahh ok |
| 00:22.19 | MuhamedRulz | can we stay here without help :d |
| 00:22.21 | amor | no entiendo nada!!!! |
| 00:22.29 | krassy | is there anybody help me ? |
| 00:22.33 | MuhamedRulz | i wana know how thats work |
| 00:22.44 | streuner | bkudria: usually not, but take a look in config file of lm-sensors |
| 00:22.53 | MuhamedRulz | simonrvn: u can understand me ? |
| 00:22.53 | simonrvn | MuhamedRulz: you can hang out, see what it's like, and ask a question or two - relevant to debian of course :) |
| 00:23.12 | abrotman | krassy: choose it from gdm or kdm .. whichever you're using |
| 00:23.24 | MuhamedRulz | simonrvn: thnx alot bro, so here we can stay and listen :)) |
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| 00:23.35 | simonrvn | or just watch, and read here, pick up some hints and tricks |
| 00:23.41 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:23.44 | amor | byeeeeeeeee! no entiendo! |
| 00:23.47 | Kiowas | are any of these java virtual machines good? |
| 00:23.54 | bkudria | streuner: i did...it is completely incomprehensible :) |
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| 00:24.58 | streuner | bkudria: well, some kernel support it better than another, but newer kernels works better with lmsensors... |
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| 00:26.26 | bkudria | streuner: ok, thanks |
| 00:26.36 | nix | bkudria: in my experience you need to adjust the sensors.conf for almost all motherboards by hand. |
| 00:26.48 | nix | bkudria: or you could always try mbmon |
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| 00:28.06 | streuner | bkudria: how do you see the values at all? |
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| 00:28.43 | Kiowas | hmm...that didnt really answer my question anyway, installing those packages does not install the plugins for firefox or konqueror. Anyone know how to install the java plugins for firefox and konqueror using apt-get? |
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| 00:29.13 | cheal | Kiowas: which packages? |
| 00:29.29 | bkudria | streuner: i'll paste it |
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| 00:29.35 | streuner | Kiowas: install java |
| 00:29.40 | stew | Kiowas: which version of debian are you running? |
| 00:29.42 | bkudria | nix: thanks, but i have no idea how to adjust them |
| 00:29.47 | Kiowas | Im running testing |
| 00:29.55 | nix | bkudria: thats why i said you can always try mbmon. |
| 00:29.55 | stew | Kiowas: /msg dpkg java package |
| 00:30.07 | stew | Kiowas: err /msg dpkg java-package |
| 00:30.36 | Kiowas | yeah, I read that but it doesnt sound very reliable. is it? |
| 00:30.48 | stew | Kiowas: its the most reliable way on debian |
| 00:30.54 | bkudria | nix: i did, it;s ok, thanks |
| 00:30.57 | Kiowas | ok |
| 00:31.10 | Gnea | Kiowas: where did you read that? |
| 00:31.11 | Kiowas | thanks |
| 00:31.15 | bkudria | streuner: http://pastebin.com/754681 |
| 00:31.18 | ice_1963 | kiowas, here you go http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
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| 00:32.20 | Kiowas | why is there all this hastle to install java? |
| 00:32.29 | abrotman | because sun sucks |
| 00:32.45 | bkudria | hear, hear! |
| 00:33.04 | streuner | bkudria: hm, usually when you get Vbat 0,0 your psu is fucked |
| 00:33.07 | stew | Kiowas: /msg dpkg java licensing |
| 00:33.36 | streuner | bkudria: so take a look into mbmon too... |
| 00:33.57 | bkudria | streuner: this is a very new psu |
| 00:34.38 | CompWizrd | your board likely lies to you :) |
| 00:35.08 | bkudria | streuner: how do i make mbmon tell me Vbat? |
| 00:35.20 | bkudria | CompWizrd: probably, i plan on getting new one |
| 00:35.39 | bkudria | CompWizrd: right after i bought it, soyo obsoleted it and released v2 |
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| 00:35.49 | bkudria | CompWizrd: but generally, it has been ok |
| 00:36.02 | CompWizrd | at least it's not a pc chips/ecs board |
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| 00:36.44 | Kiowas | what is v5sb and vbat anyway? Ive been wondering that myself |
| 00:36.44 | Buchannon | hm... I dont have, or want to set up X on one of my debian comps, but I can't seem to figure out how to configure fetchmail without using fetchmailconf which requires X |
| 00:37.11 | CompWizrd | 5volt standby, and cmos batt |
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| 00:37.24 | CompWizrd | quite a few cheap via chipset based boards lie about those two |
| 00:37.37 | abrotman | Buchannon: you could just read the fetchmail docs and write your own fetchmailrc file :) |
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| 00:39.00 | Buchannon | abrotman: ah, so I just write a new file called .fetchmailrc with options in it to configure it? Is there a specific place on my file system where I have to put this fetchmailrc file? |
| 00:39.23 | bkudria | Buchannon: i find 'getmail' to be much less buggier, and much easier to configure |
| 00:39.36 | stew | bkudria: fetchmail is buggy? did you reportbug? |
| 00:39.39 | bkudria | Buchannon: much much easier than fetchmail |
| 00:39.43 | abrotman | Buchannon: nomrally in $HOME |
| 00:39.50 | bkudria | stew: fetchmail is buggy by design |
| 00:39.51 | Buchannon | hmm ok thanks guys, I'll check it out |
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| 00:39.59 | Buchannon | yeah, I just want IMAP server heh |
| 00:40.07 | bkudria | stew: plus, i wasn't on a debian system :) |
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| 00:40.32 | l4vim | Install these packages without authentification ? (cpp and gcc) |
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| 00:40.45 | dondelelcaro | l4vim: you should fix your gpg keys for apt. |
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| 00:40.49 | abrotman | l4vim: /topic |
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| 00:42.14 | l4vim | hmm.. a lot time ago when I have my own box for debian ;) a lot of change as I think.. good ;) |
| 00:42.17 | bulio | where can I get wxpython for debian? |
| 00:42.30 | abrotman | apt-cache search wx python |
| 00:43.38 | bulio | tried |
| 00:43.39 | bulio | not there |
| 00:44.00 | abrotman | which version of debian ? |
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| 00:44.17 | bulio | sarge |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | !info libwxgtk2.4-python sarge |
| 00:44.41 | dpkg | libwxgtk2.4-python: (wxWindows Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython binding)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.3.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2387 kB, Installed size: 10584 kB |
| 00:44.48 | abrotman | oh .. that was hard |
| 00:45.03 | bulio | I have that installed |
| 00:45.09 | bulio | but my program still won;t run |
| 00:45.18 | abrotman | oh .. so what's the real problem ? |
| 00:45.22 | bkudria | oh, that is a different issue :) |
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| 00:45.34 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: A bad case of the stupids? |
| 00:45.51 | dvs | huh? |
| 00:46.12 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: that'd be me .. i beat the crap out of myself last night |
| 00:46.15 | stew | bulio: be more specific. what error are you getting? |
| 00:46.23 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
| 00:46.58 | bulio | I try running SpE stani's python editor |
| 00:47.03 | bulio | it doesnt run, just shuts off |
| 00:47.13 | bulio | I can't start it from the command line either |
| 00:47.19 | abrotman | run it from an xterm .. what's the error ? |
| 00:48.12 | stew | bulio: the spe in testing requires wxwidgets 2.6 not 2.4, perhaps that is the problem you are having |
| 00:48.23 | bulio | perhaps |
| 00:48.58 | bulio | how can I get a newer wxwidgets version? |
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| 00:49.25 | stew | bulio: if you want to get it working in sarge, your best bet is to try to start backporting packages, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:49.27 | abrotman | you can see if backports.org has anyting |
| 00:49.37 | stew | they have very litlle for python |
| 00:49.49 | bulio | would it be easy for me to upgrade to sid? |
| 00:49.55 | abrotman | which it seems to |
| 00:50.00 | abrotman | http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/w/wxwidgets2.6/ |
| 00:50.17 | bulio | wait |
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| 00:50.19 | bulio | is sid or etch testing? |
| 00:50.19 | abrotman | bulio: you wouldn't go to sid |
| 00:50.34 | CompWizrd | bulio: sid is always "unstable" |
| 00:50.36 | abrotman | etch is currently testing |
| 00:51.02 | wireddd | does konqueror have less memory issues than firefox? |
| 00:51.11 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 00:51.17 | bulio | would it be tough to upgrade from sarge to etch? |
| 00:51.26 | dav | about the xorg update: i'm getting aliased fonts. any idea on what the trick is to fix that? |
| 00:52.03 | krassy | abortman:do you know when etch is become stable ? |
| 00:52.08 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 00:52.09 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00015.html |
| 00:52.15 | bulio | whats the command to edit my sources.list? |
| 00:52.24 | stew | bulio: apt-setup |
| 00:52.27 | bulio | nano /etc/sources.list? |
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| 00:52.38 | streuner | builo: do you run sarge/stable? |
| 00:52.45 | bulio | yes |
| 00:52.52 | stew | bulio: oh, if you want to upgrade to etch, then yeah nano /etc/apt/sources.list and /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 00:53.04 | bulio | thanks |
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| 00:53.44 | streuner | builo: if you want only newer packages check /msg dpkg backports out too... |
| 00:54.19 | bulio | and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security) |
| 00:54.24 | bulio | how do I ask it about that? |
| 00:54.25 | abrotman | !tell bulio about sarge->etch |
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| 00:54.39 | abrotman | sarge->etch is probably better in this case |
| 00:55.31 | stew | i elect abrotman to fix the stable->testing factoid |
| 00:55.41 | dvs | i second |
| 00:55.43 | stew | i would but it's dinnertime |
| 00:55.50 | bulio | upgrading to etch now :) |
| 00:56.00 | abrotman | stew: i fixed sarge->etch already |
| 00:57.01 | stew | i made stable->testing a link to sarge->etch |
| 00:57.08 | abrotman | ah .. that's bad? |
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| 00:57.21 | stew | no |
| 00:57.23 | stew | i don't think so |
| 00:57.26 | stew | you do? |
| 00:57.38 | abrotman | nope |
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| 00:57.53 | abrotman | i'd rather seem them have the release name in the sources if they don't know what they're doing :) |
| 00:58.10 | abrotman | they'll get etch now .. and have it as stable whenever the release happens |
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| 00:59.59 | splif | Hi everyone, I'm trying to finalize a system build that is a dual xeon with 8 gigs of ram but /proc/meminfo only sees 4 of it, is there a kernel module that i need to load or a package I need to download for it to see all 8 of it? |
| 01:00.06 | dav | can anyone help regarding my xorg font problem after the upgrade? |
| 01:00.33 | abrotman | splif: is it em64t ? |
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| 01:01.25 | splif | abrotman: no its 32 bit only |
| 01:01.36 | abrotman | can a 32bit Xeon address 8GB ? |
| 01:01.48 | stew | splif: you need to compile a custom kernel with the 64gig option |
| 01:01.50 | abrotman | even with PAE ? |
| 01:01.51 | phogg | splif: is your kernel set to use high memory? |
| 01:02.06 | abrotman | i thought the 32bit xeons could only address 4GB |
| 01:02.07 | stew | splif: by default the debian kernels are set for <= 4gb |
| 01:02.26 | splif | phogg: its a default sarge install with the 686-smp image on it |
| 01:02.40 | dvs | splif: you need to recompile the kernel |
| 01:02.41 | phogg | splif: as stew said, recompile |
| 01:02.43 | abrotman | splif: you'll have to reocmpile and enable 64GB support |
| 01:02.50 | petemc | pae |
| 01:02.50 | dvs | abrotman: liar! |
| 01:02.51 | abrotman | !tell splif about kp |
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| 01:03.08 | abrotman | petemc: i said PAE .. but i thought it still could only do 4GB |
| 01:03.14 | petemc | no |
| 01:03.58 | VITIHO_ | Hi all, I'm looking to implement HA for subversion, anyone could advise something? |
| 01:04.03 | splif | cool, thanks by the way |
| 01:04.17 | abrotman | VITIHO_: did you ask #svn ? |
| 01:04.30 | astronut | HA? |
| 01:04.42 | VITIHO_ | high availability |
| 01:04.43 | abrotman | high availability |
| 01:04.50 | astronut | ah |
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| 01:04.59 | astronut | you mean redundancy and such? ya, #SVN |
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| 01:05.28 | VITIHO_ | ok... I thought maybe about something on file system level |
| 01:05.50 | abrotman | like .. RAID? |
| 01:06.00 | shogunx | VITIHO_, what, like a raid1? |
| 01:06.02 | VITIHO_ | yeah... except network raid... |
| 01:06.23 | abrotman | so not filesystem ? |
| 01:06.27 | shogunx | 2 hosts accessing the same raid1 would do it. |
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| 01:06.52 | smacnay | Wow, a whole bunch of updates in Testing! |
| 01:06.54 | VITIHO_ | abortman distributed file system level |
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| 01:07.14 | VITIHO_ | shogunx how's that possible? |
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| 01:07.32 | smacnay | they almost look like they will break X for me with my nvidia card. |
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| 01:08.58 | shogunx | VITIHO_, i have only seen it with ibm's ssa architecture. essentially there are connectors for 2 hosts on each disk tray, that connect back to raid adapters in the hosts. actually 4 i/o paths in all, redundant at the host and controller level. and disk level, with the raid, of course. |
| 01:09.33 | shogunx | it could probably be done with a soldering iron and some nifty software on scsi. |
| 01:10.34 | shogunx | hmm. does the scsi transport send alternating current or dc? are the read pins different from write pins? if so, it could be done with a soldering iron and some diodes. |
| 01:10.36 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: nope. still doing it. |
| 01:10.44 | VITIHO_ | yeah, I'm more looking to opensource solution, otherwise i'ld be looking on IBM or Sun website for external disk array :) |
| 01:10.58 | Phire | I'm using debootstrap, it download the files, then extracts them and gives this error message: |
| 01:11.03 | shogunx | VITIHO_, the box that i had that on got penguinized. |
| 01:11.05 | Phire | E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
| 01:11.09 | shogunx | so i understand. |
| 01:11.18 | smacnay | Does anyone know if Xorg in testing still support nvidia's opengl if the binary driver is installed? |
| 01:12.06 | shogunx | VITIHO_, point being the kernel could propably pull that off with a small patch or two... the issue is scrapping together the hardware side to implement it. |
| 01:12.31 | shogunx | hmm... 2 controllers on either end of a 7 connector scsi cable? maybe. |
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| 01:13.23 | shogunx | but the scsi subsystem, as well as the filesystem would have to be aware for both hosts to be able to read-write. |
| 01:14.12 | shogunx | VITIHO_, SO... its possible, but we do not have any code for it. |
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| 01:14.27 | Buchannon | lets say I have two websites on two different computers using two different domains... I have a router that I connect both computers to |
| 01:14.28 | shogunx | dig it? |
| 01:15.03 | Buchannon | how would I do that... like lets say I want domain1.com to go to linux comp 1, and domain2.com to go to linux comp2, I can only port forward port 80 from the router to one machine |
| 01:15.56 | Gnea | Buchannon: you're not making any sense. you put a router between them, but are they on the same network or do they have different internet ips? |
| 01:16.12 | shogunx | Buchannon, you need more smarts than you nat has to route that properly. |
| 01:16.32 | shogunx | a simple port forward will not do. |
| 01:16.36 | Gnea | !beer shogunx |
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| 01:16.56 | Buchannon | Gnea: everything I have is set up on a LAN, they have differet IP in the LAN of course, but the router is the only thing that has an outside IP address |
| 01:17.00 | Gnea | shogunx: e continues to fail compilation :/ |
| 01:17.01 | VITIHO_ | shogunx, yeah, there is not point in doing this... as it won't be give you HA because if box with raid controllers dies you screwed |
| 01:17.19 | Buchannon | shogunx: bleh~ so I need something fancier than my wal-mart linksys router eh? |
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| 01:17.41 | shogunx | VITIHO_, thats why there are 2 hosts connected. a whole box can die, and the data stays available. |
| 01:18.02 | Gnea | Buchannon: then it can't be done that way, you'd either have to put both domains on one machine and do some aliasing with apache, or get some real ip addresses to hook them up |
| 01:18.43 | Smerdy | Are there any packages in testing that will install a mga_drv video driver that will work with the xserver-xorg in testing? |
| 01:18.50 | shogunx | Buchannon, you could replace the firmware in your linksys with a linux kernel and some iptables and/or iproute2 rules. |
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| 01:19.04 | Phire | does anyone know where i can get the devices.tar.gz file for debootstrap, I seam to be missing it? |
| 01:19.06 | epsilon | Buchannon: so you have in your LAN with several boxes using LAN-IPs hosting websites with 2 domains? |
| 01:19.19 | VITIHO_ | I'm thinking more of something like ocfs2 or similar... not sure how stable it is :) |
| 01:19.45 | shogunx | Gnea, bah. i think its potentially a borked tree occasionally. I will try the source that built cleanly on the alphaserver on an x86 and see what happens. |
| 01:20.10 | shogunx | at least we can isolate the problem a bit better that way. |
| 01:20.10 | Gnea | shogunx: i've had the same error continuously for the past couple weeks |
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| 01:20.35 | shogunx | Gnea, on every x86 build, me too. the alpha built it cleanly the first time. |
| 01:20.36 | Gnea | oh the problem's isolated, no one's fixing it after i made a followup post about it |
| 01:20.40 | Buchannon | Gnea: that's how I've been doing it, I actually have 3 domains set up on one box, but I just got another computer to fiddle around with - so how can I point apache to another comp with domain2? |
| 01:21.09 | Buchannon | epsilon: well 3 domains actually, they have all been on one comp until recently, that is what I'm trying to change |
| 01:21.17 | Gnea | Buchannon: oh you can't, you have to use the same system |
| 01:21.34 | shogunx | Buchannon, you can get ipv6 addresses for free, and route them from the border router. |
| 01:21.36 | Gnea | Buchannon: the way you've got it setup right now, it'll only work with one system |
| 01:22.05 | Gnea | Buchannon: ipv6 would work, but then you'd need to translate them to ipv4 addresses and handle dns at the same time |
| 01:22.26 | shogunx | Gnea, dns on that is just AAAA records. |
| 01:22.43 | Gnea | shogunx: which the majority of the internet doesn't even know about |
| 01:23.01 | Gnea | people barely know what 1.2.3.4 is |
| 01:23.04 | shogunx | Gnea, i forget sometimes... |
| 01:23.08 | epsilon | Buchannon: Well one Server must receave all incoming requests and forward them to each webservers - that can be done with loadbalancer or apache (AFAIK) |
| 01:23.34 | Gnea | shogunx: supposedly, japan's moving to all ipv6 this year - that's gonna be a neat trick |
| 01:23.59 | Buchannon | It seems like it would be possible to just make a domain on my apache server for domain2.com and have it pointing at another IP address instead of a directory |
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| 01:24.53 | abrotman | ask #apache |
| 01:25.08 | epsilon | Buchannon: if you don't want redirect, mount the DocumentRoot from other servers per NFS - an another possibilit |
| 01:25.10 | epsilon | y |
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| 01:26.27 | Buchannon | epsilon: hmm that's an idea! Thanks |
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| 01:27.28 | bulio | 1/2 way through my sarge to etch upgrade, It had an error and quit |
| 01:27.38 | bulio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.38 | bulio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.38 | bulio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.39 | bulio | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using - |
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| 01:27.53 | bulio | bunch of stuff like that |
| 01:28.08 | streuner | bulio: Who told you to flood the channel? |
| 01:28.18 | abrotman | do it again |
| 01:28.23 | streuner | haha |
| 01:28.23 | abrotman | not the flood .. |
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| 01:28.56 | Gnea | bulio: sorry, no help for you. |
| 01:28.57 | bulio | sorry |
| 01:29.10 | Gnea | !tell bulio about paster |
| 01:29.18 | bulio | thanks |
| 01:29.21 | Gnea | bulio: don't ever do that again in here. |
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| 01:29.36 | dn4 | lets say I want mozilla-firefox to act like netscape how do I do that? |
| 01:29.37 | bulio | ok |
| 01:29.51 | Gnea | dn4: it doesn't? |
| 01:30.10 | streuner | bulio: try /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 01:30.23 | bulio | http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4ZKZf57.html |
| 01:30.27 | Phire | Where can i get devices.tar.gz for debootstrap? I seam to be missing it. |
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| 01:30.47 | dn4 | needed a user agent switcher I think |
| 01:31.02 | abrotman | you don't want mozilla to act like N4 |
| 01:31.11 | bulio | also: |
| 01:31.11 | dn4 | yes I do |
| 01:31.18 | dn4 | because I don't want to download N4 |
| 01:31.19 | abrotman | why the hell would you wan thtat? |
| 01:31.24 | zinx | it has a user agent switcher, doesn't it? |
| 01:31.25 | epsilon | Phire: you mean setup devices i /dev? |
| 01:31.34 | bulio | http://rafb.net/paste/results/AwV5KD81.html |
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| 01:32.03 | Phire | epsilon, I run debootstrap, and i get the error message: E: no /usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz. cannot create devices |
| 01:32.56 | bulio | anyone able to help? |
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| 01:33.00 | streuner | !tell bulio about confmiss |
| 01:33.06 | epsilon | tried to run MAKEDEV manually? |
| 01:33.12 | Phire | no |
| 01:33.31 | Smerdy | Has anyone gotten the xserver-xorg version in testing now to work with a Matrox video card that used the mga driver? |
| 01:33.36 | Smerdy | (Or mga_hal driver) |
| 01:33.49 | bulio | how will confmiss help? |
| 01:33.52 | abrotman | go to 6.8.2 .. or so the rumor is |
| 01:34.01 | shogunx | ok Gnea, I'm trying the tree for the alphaserver now. |
| 01:34.04 | Smerdy | abrotman, are you responding to me? |
| 01:34.08 | shogunx | on an athlon. |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | the other person who asked about X and MGA |
| 01:34.41 | streuner | bulio: /msg dpkg xfree->xorg |
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| 01:35.13 | Smerdy | abrotman, I had 6.8.2 installed on hold... then an apt-get upgrade broke it. |
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| 01:35.58 | shogunx | Gnea, where did you isolate the problem to, btw? |
| 01:36.03 | bulio | didn't work |
| 01:36.04 | abrotman | Smerdy: so put it back! |
| 01:36.24 | Smerdy | abrotman, but some other package that it depends on seems to have changed in a way that stops it from working anymore.... |
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| 01:36.43 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 01:36.43 | dpkg | i heard sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 01:37.13 | bulio | it isn't working |
| 01:37.13 | Smerdy | abrotman, how does that help me if some undetermined other package has changed in a way that breaks it? |
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| 01:37.28 | streuner | bulio: paste the error with the command dpkg gave you in paster bot |
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| 01:38.02 | bulio | http://rafb.net/paste/results/dkJUXd62.html |
| 01:38.19 | abrotman | Smerdy: i'm giving you options .. all i've heard about MGA and 6.9 is to go back to 6.8.2 |
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| 01:39.05 | bulio | any idea? |
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| 01:39.29 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:39.30 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 01:40.26 | streuner | bulio: apt-get install localeconf |
| 01:40.44 | bulio | unmet dependencies crap |
| 01:41.17 | streuner | bulio: apt-get install locales? |
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| 01:41.33 | bulio | unmet deps... |
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| 01:42.16 | bulio | it wont stop crying about unmet dependencies |
| 01:42.17 | streuner | bulio: show us the error in paster bot again |
| 01:42.23 | Smerdy | abrotman, trying to dpkg -i the 6.8 package, I get errors about conflicts with the installed x11-common version. How can I do this in a way that downgrades all other packages that need downgrading? I have the appropriate snapshot path set up in sources.list, I think. |
| 01:42.37 | bulio | http://rafb.net/paste/results/L2l3ah41.html |
| 01:43.43 | bulio | anything? |
| 01:43.45 | streuner | bulio: so what happens if you just ignore locales-warning and run apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite"' -f install |
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| 01:44.09 | bulio | can I paste two lines here? |
| 01:44.19 | streuner | sure |
| 01:44.25 | bulio | debox:/home/bulio# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite"' -f install |
| 01:44.25 | bulio | > |
| 01:44.34 | abrotman | Smerdy: you'll have to get a bunch from snapshot.d.n |
| 01:44.37 | M__ | hi I have problem: Switching root /usr/lib/yaird/exec/run_init : opening console : no such file or directory Kernel Panic, what should I do? |
| 01:44.47 | streuner | bulio: and then it aborts apt-get? |
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| 01:44.58 | bulio | just waits |
| 01:45.01 | bulio | at the > |
| 01:45.20 | sng | abrotman: Stop slacking you lazy bum? |
| 01:46.05 | abrotman | sng: go to the brewery! |
| 01:46.13 | bulio | streuner: any idea? |
| 01:46.32 | sng | abrotman: I have a nice porter in the fridge. But I'm on pager so I can only have a couple. :( |
| 01:46.55 | basbryan | sng: el suxor |
| 01:46.59 | abrotman | sng: get drunk and put the pager in your shorts! |
| 01:47.09 | sng | Yay! |
| 01:47.11 | sng | But no. |
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| 01:47.13 | bulio | it just waits right now |
| 01:47.47 | shogunx | sng why you would allow anyone to hang an electronic leash on you is beyond me. |
| 01:48.08 | sng | abrotman: Aye, that you do. |
| 01:48.32 | streuner | bulio: ok, just try to install x11-common by hand (http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/04/06/debian/pool/main/x/xorg/) |
| 01:48.42 | abrotman | sng: it's not my fault! .. but yes .. i suck badly |
| 01:48.48 | M__ | hey streuner can you help dude? |
| 01:48.52 | sng | abrotman: Yay! |
| 01:49.04 | abrotman | sng: at least i'll admit it! |
| 01:49.05 | sng | (For the record abrotman doesn't really suck.) |
| 01:49.14 | sng | abrotman: That's the first step. |
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| 01:49.50 | bulio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.50 | bulio | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 01:49.54 | streuner | ma3x: ask in channel, you should know the rules here... |
| 01:49.56 | bulio | x11-common |
| 01:50.08 | ma3x | streuner, I got kernel panic, can't boot |
| 01:50.16 | ma3x | streuner, it happened after installing windows |
| 01:50.23 | streuner | ma3x: iam using lilo... |
| 01:50.40 | ma3x | Switching root /usr/lib/yaird/exec/run_init : opening console : no such file |
| 01:50.45 | ma3x | kernel panic |
| 01:50.48 | bulio | I'm just gonna re-install I guess :/ |
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| 01:50.58 | basbryan | ?? |
| 01:52.53 | streuner | dpkg, forget xfree->xorg |
| 01:52.53 | dpkg | streuner: i forgot xfree->xorg |
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| 01:56.29 | kurumin | Hy |
| 01:56.52 | kurumin | Porto Alegre ? RS |
| 01:57.10 | kurumin | Alguem na linha ???? |
| 01:57.18 | streuner | !br |
| 01:57.18 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:57.41 | kurumin | Hello |
| 01:57.54 | kurumin | Who connected |
| 01:57.55 | abrotman | !kurumin |
| 01:57.56 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 01:58.08 | kurumin | yes |
| 01:58.22 | abrotman | kurumin: try ##linux |
| 01:58.22 | kurumin | locate Porto Alegre |
| 01:58.30 | kurumin | by by |
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| 02:05.13 | onetinsoldier | hello. does anyone know to solve the following startup problem with totem-gstreamer? |
| 02:05.21 | onetinsoldier | ** (totem:8503): WARNING **: No GConf default audio sink key and osssink doesn't work |
| 02:05.32 | onetinsoldier | ** Message: failed to render default audio sink from gconf |
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| 02:10.06 | [g2] | after debootstraping etch what the equivelant of base-config ? |
| 02:10.18 | [g2] | as base-config appears depricated |
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| 02:10.35 | streuner | both in etch or sid... |
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| 02:11.07 | dob1 | hi, i have to execute a command at boot, i have put this command at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. it is correct? |
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| 02:11.24 | lunitik | dob1: you try rebooting? |
| 02:11.31 | simonrvn | or make your own |
| 02:11.37 | startxwhite | can anyone with *personal experience* recommend a free as in freedom web browser for a P133 that runs on sarge with X-Window. i have tried firefox(very good but dead slow), dillo (very limited almost unusable), amaya(good for editing html but not for good for web surfing), links2 (very fast but very limited) |
| 02:11.47 | simonrvn | rebooting to test an init script? |
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| 02:11.50 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 02:12.03 | lunitik | startxwhite: dillo |
| 02:12.07 | basbryan | opera? |
| 02:12.16 | streuner | no |
| 02:12.18 | dob1 | lunitik: i can't now, but at the end of this file there is ":" , i can put the command after this ":" ? |
| 02:12.30 | streuner | opera isn't in debian, so you don't want recommend it |
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| 02:12.37 | zinx | startxwhite: tried galeon? |
| 02:12.38 | lunitik | startxwhite: or links2 'links -g" |
| 02:12.45 | simonrvn | dob1: it means 'true'; man sh |
| 02:13.11 | johnsu01 | startxwhite: oddly enough I found konqueror to be the best-performing browser on my P150. but that was about 2 yrs ago. |
| 02:13.13 | dob1 | simonrvn: ok, thanks |
| 02:13.17 | startxwhite | zinx: the browser i am after should not depend on gnome or kde libraries |
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| 02:13.34 | lunitik | johnsu01: you try dillo or links -g? |
| 02:13.44 | dvs | startxwhite: links ;-) |
| 02:13.48 | zinx | startxwhite: you didn't mention that part |
| 02:13.57 | johnsu01 | lunitik: I should mean in comparison to the others in its category.. not quicker than links of course :) |
| 02:14.00 | startxwhite | i did try links and dillo. i do not want them! |
| 02:14.17 | lunitik | johnsu01: www-browser is its category? |
| 02:14.27 | simonrvn | dob1: so, i would put what you want *before* that, or, make your own init script |
| 02:14.36 | tech13 | how do you resolve conflicts durning a dist-upgrade? (I'm attempting to go from sarge to etch) |
| 02:14.38 | johnsu01 | lunitik: browsers with javascript? |
| 02:14.49 | lunitik | tech13: use aptitude |
| 02:15.04 | streuner | startxwhite: w3m |
| 02:15.08 | shogunx | gnea, i just got it to build, but i had to mangle the makefiles to build around the effected parts of e. |
| 02:15.09 | lunitik | tech13: aptitude dist-upgrade will recommend resolutions |
| 02:15.18 | simonrvn | w3m doesn't do JS, nor CSS |
| 02:15.42 | streuner | hm, JavaScript is evil. |
| 02:15.46 | simonrvn | (though some people like that ;), and i sometimes use it for that very reason ;) |
| 02:15.49 | startxwhite | w3m is very limited. try w3m with www.mail.com |
| 02:15.56 | k-god | streuner: Congratulations! |
| 02:16.03 | dob1 | simonrvn: ok i will put it before ":", it's only a command don't think is necessary a init script |
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| 02:16.09 | streuner | k-god: hehe |
| 02:16.12 | tech13 | lunitik, Sorry, i'm looking at the output. none of it jumps out as a suggestion of what to do. |
| 02:16.31 | k-god | streuner: what're you looking for browser-wise? |
| 02:16.43 | startxwhite | i think what i am after does *not* exist! poor newbies with old hardware! |
| 02:16.45 | lunitik | tech13: its probably displaying a resolution... if you like it... hit y, else n :/ |
| 02:16.48 | simonrvn | dob1: oh, i have, and will again. easier to upgrade the init scripts. no messing with my custom stuff |
| 02:16.50 | k-god | startxwhite: ^^ streuner misfire. |
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| 02:16.58 | zinx | startxwhite: i think that what you, specificly, are after does not exist |
| 02:17.00 | startxwhite | what? |
| 02:17.05 | tech13 | lunitik, it isn't at a prompt, it is back to the command line. |
| 02:17.07 | k-god | startxwhite: Lightweight featureful browser? |
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| 02:17.12 | zinx | startxwhite: i think most newbies with poor hardware can find something acceptable :D |
| 02:17.15 | lunitik | tech13: unless it farted out something about permissions... in which case, I wonder if you should be tinkering with package management in the first place |
| 02:17.18 | simonrvn | bwahahaha |
| 02:17.22 | streuner | k-god: not me, someone else is looking for the ultimate browser with all features without any RAM... |
| 02:17.22 | lunitik | tech13: yes |
| 02:17.32 | k-god | startxwhite: BrowseX |
| 02:17.33 | lunitik | tech13: you can't look through things on the command line? |
| 02:17.46 | simonrvn | JS rendering is hog in any engine |
| 02:17.48 | k-god | startxwhite: ... not "the ultimate" but works on a relatively small footprint. Or Opera, possibly. |
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| 02:17.54 | tech13 | lunitik, I just doubt random "y" at the command line will do much. |
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| 02:18.09 | streuner | startxwhite: in case you don't know, modern browers use plenty of RAM nowadays |
| 02:18.26 | startxwhite | Opera is not free as in freedom. i do not want to sin in such a manner! |
| 02:18.26 | lunitik | tech13: ffs... why argue? just go read what it recommends to do... if its not gonna remove stuff you want, hit 'y' |
| 02:18.29 | tech13 | lunitik, I can post the screen content to #flood |
| 02:18.34 | k-god | streuner: Firefox is routinely well over 1.5 GB of swap. |
| 02:18.35 | lunitik | tech13: idc |
| 02:18.37 | k-god | !tell tech13 about paster |
| 02:18.45 | simonrvn | konqueror doesn't use as much as the gecko-based ones |
| 02:19.05 | k-god | simonrvn: part of FFX's behavior is concious tab-caching which is pretty much unlimited. |
| 02:19.11 | streuner | galeon was pretty good before they switched (gtk) |
| 02:19.28 | lunitik | Can't get flash to actually work in konqi :/ |
| 02:19.35 | k-god | streuner: Not the gtk stuff so much as GNOME brain-death. Painfully slow tab redraws over remote X. |
| 02:19.42 | k-god | lunitik: It works if you want it badly enough. |
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| 02:19.45 | tech13 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2725 |
| 02:19.47 | simonrvn | yeh. which IMO sucks, because i have limited ram here. even if i didn't i would still dislike it. maybe i don't want all 8-20 tabs cached .... |
| 02:19.49 | startxwhite | i can live without flash |
| 02:19.53 | lunitik | k-god: guess I didn't then... haha |
| 02:20.05 | CHodapp | I have Flashblock for Firefox - I miss some things but not much. |
| 02:20.06 | lunitik | k-god: I don't like flash crap anyways... so it kinda works out :P |
| 02:20.15 | k-god | lunitik: Mostly with you. |
| 02:20.28 | CHodapp | Some of the most awesome sites I've ever seen are done in flash. So are some of the most annoying ads. |
| 02:20.40 | simonrvn | pre-gnome galeon rocked. until the gnome folks mangled it and removed stuff :( |
| 02:20.42 | k-god | CHodapp: Yeah, flashblock's a massive win. You can see the odd cool thing (mostly Google Video). |
| 02:20.43 | eddiecheng | is there any debian scripts or applications to solve all dependencies problems? i have messed up alot files in deb. Deleted without using apt-get remove. Is there anyway to safely remove all of packages installed? |
| 02:20.55 | k-god | CHodapp: 99.9999999999% of crap is vastly better than flash. |
| 02:21.01 | simonrvn | most flash nowadays is spamertising anyway |
| 02:21.05 | streuner | simonrvn: very true |
| 02:21.06 | tech13 | lunitik, er, posted it to paster. http://channels.debian.net/paste/2725 |
| 02:21.07 | k-god | eddiecheng: Still at it? |
| 02:21.21 | eddiecheng | yea i tried to fix it by reading the install scripts |
| 02:21.29 | streuner | simonrvn: galeon was pretty fast and used not that much RAM at this time... |
| 02:21.35 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 02:21.37 | k-god | eddiecheng: install then remove is cleaner. You can simply prune your status file if you want. |
| 02:21.43 | CHodapp | I use Dillo sometimes |
| 02:22.14 | CHodapp | Some browsers are just annoyingly sluggish in certain parts - like when you want to stop a page from loading, and the Stop button hasn't appeared yet |
| 02:22.15 | eddiecheng | k-god but i cant install anymore, lots of errors pops up when i try to install postfix for e.g |
| 02:22.19 | k-god | streuner: What I liked about Galeon was less its speed and footprint (which were good) but just its featurefulness and intelligent design. |
| 02:22.21 | lunitik | I'd like to know what it things about my package set... |
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| 02:22.36 | simonrvn | once the gnome libs started getting linked in, it went downhill. btw, i'm not personally attacking the gnome people, just their decision to do what they did |
| 02:22.44 | streuner | k-god: well, that's another point... |
| 02:22.44 | lunitik | s/things/thinks |
| 02:22.46 | lunitik | s/things/thinks/ |
| 02:22.51 | lunitik | ~talk |
| 02:22.53 | apt | methinks talk is the standard, 2-person interactive chat, replaced by ytalk and ntalk in later times. Old talk still ships as the default/standard chat tool for most operating systems. |
| 02:22.58 | lunitik | why doesn't apt come here anymore? |
| 02:23.01 | simonrvn | k-god: yeh :) |
| 02:23.05 | k-god | eddiecheng: the secret is that Debian gets its package state, deps, conflicts, etc., from a file which says "here's what's installed". Not what's actually on your system. |
| 02:23.07 | simonrvn | um |
| 02:23.20 | k-god | eddiecheng: Mind, with what you've done, you're in a world of hurt one way or the other. |
| 02:23.26 | streuner | k-god: to bring it to the point, i don't know someone who wasn't satisfied... |
| 02:23.28 | k-god | eddiecheng: Can you ssh to the box? |
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| 02:23.32 | eddiecheng | yes i can |
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| 02:23.47 | lunitik | ahh... its just hella slow... apt in #kde corrects things via s/foo/bar/ ? |
| 02:24.06 | simonrvn | same apt |
| 02:24.11 | k-god | streuner: ... w/ old Galeon? |
| 02:24.12 | eddiecheng | i am doing it right now to solve it since yesterday, i wanted to do a chroot clean installation but i afraid i bricked my system like last time |
| 02:24.14 | lunitik | simonrvn: channel based perms? |
| 02:24.17 | streuner | k-god: yep |
| 02:24.24 | simonrvn | (i bet) |
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| 02:24.36 | k-god | streuner: yeah. The project did a massive rectal-cranial inversion. |
| 02:24.41 | simonrvn | fooo |
| 02:24.50 | simonrvn | s/fooo/foo/ |
| 02:24.54 | eddiecheng | k-god : which file do i edit so that debian thinks that those packages are not installed. i want to reinstall all the packackges i have screwed up |
| 02:24.56 | k-god | eddiecheng: Why is it you can't simply go to the box and fix it on-site? |
| 02:25.03 | simonrvn | oh, i guess they disabled it here |
| 02:25.08 | simonrvn | lunitik: yes |
| 02:25.10 | startxwhite | i think what i am after does *not* exist! poor skint newbies with old hardware! especially those in the 3rd world who can not upgrade their hardware! |
| 02:25.16 | eddiecheng | k-god its very far and i went for operation recently and i am on clutches |
| 02:25.20 | k-god | eddiecheng: /var/lib/dpkg/<stuff>. Not on Debian here so I'm stabbing in the dark a bit. |
| 02:25.22 | antibular | How do I query then label of a cdrom? (/dev/cdrom) |
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| 02:26.27 | simonrvn | k-god: s/inversion/insertion/ |
| 02:26.34 | k-god | simonrvn: Same diff. |
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| 02:26.41 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 02:26.57 | lunitik | simonrvn: soooo... any idea where aptitude keeps its equiv of 'keepers' from debfoster? (list of packages it knows about that you actually want/installed explicitly...)) |
| 02:26.57 | k-god | simonrvn: .. though I think one of those might have had a larger cavity than the other, and not in the normal structural order. |
| 02:27.14 | simonrvn | k-god: ehehe |
| 02:27.16 | christor | Please , I have a problem on my computer : Debian testing , with 2 sata disk in raid1 and 1 IDE. In the bios sata in first boot. I installed the debian on the sata disque ( md0 all in /) and the IDE is a /backup . But if I removed my IDE disk from teh comp, my pc doesn t start on disk black screen. I need to connect the IDE.Any ideas? Is Debian copied the MBR in the IDE, Have to separe the /boot partition from the raid1?? |
| 02:27.41 | simonrvn | lunitik: good question. try in /var/lib/aptitude |
| 02:27.47 | shogunx | gnea... when i mangled the makefiles to not build or try to install the init or themes, it built and runs fine. i copied /usr/local/share/enlightenment/data/* over from the alpha, since that was the only part missing, and it all works. |
| 02:27.56 | k-god | eddiecheng: A lot of this is documented in the standard Debian docs, package management, Debian Policy, Martin Krafftt's excellent book (No Starch Press), etc. http://www.debian.org/doc/ is a good place to start. |
| 02:28.16 | shogunx | Gnea^^ |
| 02:28.35 | simonrvn | FFS 213ro[ h3ho21r |
| 02:28.35 | rockstar_ | christor , robably a bios setting |
| 02:28.36 | eddiecheng | okay |
| 02:28.46 | k-god | eddiecheng: Since you seem to be 1. desperate 2. ignorant 3. broke and 4. phyically disadvantaged, going through docs and asking intelligent questions, while experimenting on a local machine, is probably your best bet. |
| 02:28.48 | phoenix198 | Hi, I could use some help, please PM me if you can assist me. Problem: I'm installing Debian Sarge (d/l'ed dvd images last night, first time installing) on my notebook and I'm getting a Segmentation Fault on first boot into system. (/etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204: 415 Segmentation fault) I've looked other places for help with no luck, any help is greatly appreciated. |
| 02:28.56 | k-god | eddiecheng: meantime, I've got to split. |
| 02:29.00 | simonrvn | !pm me |
| 02:29.48 | k-god | phoenix198: Try to rule out HW issues (RAM, CPU, mobo, disk), and maybe try a fresh install. Shouldn't happen. Stress-tests run from Knoppix might be useful. |
| 02:30.07 | lunitik | simonrvn: ahh... all thats in there that seems relative is pkgstate ... but that doesn't appear to be specific to whats installed on the system :( |
| 02:30.29 | simonrvn | lunitik: status file; /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 02:30.42 | phoenix198 | k-god: HW should be fine; was working great with Windows yesterday. And I've installed fresh twice now. |
| 02:30.50 | Nacho_19LP | hi everybody!! |
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| 02:31.13 | Nacho_19LP | i get this msg when i do "dpkg --configure -a" . Any idea? |
| 02:31.14 | Nacho_19LP | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.15 | Nacho_19LP | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 02:31.15 | Nacho_19LP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:31.20 | dondelelcaro | phoenix198: have you tried with booting with noacpi yet? |
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| 02:31.24 | phoenix198 | The last actual line displayed before the blinking cursor prompt is " usb.c: registered new driver hub" |
| 02:31.34 | dondelelcaro | !tell Nacho_19LP -about bat |
| 02:31.45 | Nacho_19LP | hi :( |
| 02:31.53 | dondelelcaro | phoenix198: yeah, probably acpi |
| 02:31.57 | lunitik | simonrvn: that appears to be what is installed... its just the specific Packages.gz info though from what I can tell |
| 02:32.01 | startxwhite | they are doomed to run w98se on their P133s! they will never see the light and receive the grace from our Patron Saint! |
| 02:32.02 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro? |
| 02:32.07 | phoenix198 | dondelelcaro: No, I haven't actually; not sure how to go about that, but I will try it immediately (I'm pretty much a linux noob). |
| 02:32.10 | startxwhite | but then again ...quite a few people here are infidels! |
| 02:32.21 | lunitik | simonrvn: that would be useful to actually manage what it knows about my packages? |
| 02:32.23 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 02:32.31 | dondelelcaro | phoenix198: on the boot prompt, type linux26 noacpi; (or install26, can never remember) |
| 02:32.38 | simonrvn | lunitik: read it |
| 02:32.43 | simonrvn | it's just text |
| 02:32.47 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: what version of apache are you installing? what is the output of apt-cache policy apache;? |
| 02:32.57 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: use the pasterboot or #flood to provide us with this information[ |
| 02:33.16 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, great |
| 02:33.17 | eddiecheng | what methods do you guys normally use to resize a mount |
| 02:33.19 | phoenix198 | dondelelcaro: Thank you, trying it now; I appreciate the help. |
| 02:33.26 | lunitik | simonrvn: I can paste it someplace... its of the same layout as Packages.gz |
| 02:33.29 | eddiecheng | or change mounts between partitions |
| 02:33.41 | Nacho_19LP | im installing 1.3.33-6sarge1 |
| 02:33.58 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, go to #flood, im pasting what i get |
| 02:34.19 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: I'm already there. Is there any output before the failure in postinst; message? |
| 02:34.34 | Nacho_19LP | there u have it |
| 02:34.45 | lunitik | simonrvn: I'm not sure how this would be useful? I simple want a list like /var/lib/debfoster/keepers with debfoster (you have to run it to see, just a list of top level depends on the packages installed on your system) |
| 02:34.48 | simonrvn | lunitik: with additional info. Packages won't have some of that. look at it carefully |
| 02:34.54 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst, add a set -x under the #!/bin/sh line, and rerun dpkg --configure -a; |
| 02:35.00 | antibular | Anyone know how to return the label of an inerted CDROM via command line? |
| 02:35.08 | Nacho_19LP | ok dondelelcaro |
| 02:35.33 | christor | rockstar_: When I put the IDE in the pc, I put the setting to boot in first on the SATA and ti works, of I removed the IDE the first boot is alwways the SATA and it doens t boot . I don t see the problem in the BIOS and I have looked. Maybe a bios version prob :s |
| 02:35.37 | simonrvn | lunitik: dunno; check the man page, see 'FILES', it'll likely say what if that entry is present |
| 02:35.42 | Nacho_19LP | let me see... dondelelcaro |
| 02:35.55 | lunitik | simonrvn: yes... only difference I see is the Status field? |
| 02:36.01 | Nacho_19LP | oops dondelelcaro , the same error msg =( |
| 02:36.04 | simonrvn | yup |
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| 02:36.36 | lunitik | simonrvn: there is a debfoster2aptitude script... maybe I can just run that and see where the result ends up :) |
| 02:36.48 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: uh... if you did what I asked there should be more output than that |
| 02:36.51 | simonrvn | or look at the script itself ;) |
| 02:36.53 | Nacho_19LP | yeah |
| 02:37.02 | Nacho_19LP | sorry, i have the output you asked for |
| 02:37.03 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: what does head /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst; return? |
| 02:37.21 | simonrvn | antibular: one of the isofs packages |
| 02:37.29 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, its ok what u said! ive another output... |
| 02:37.32 | simonrvn | !tell antibular -about search |
| 02:37.34 | stormrider_may | could someone tell me how can i let debian play two sounds at the same time? |
| 02:37.50 | dondelelcaro | stormrider_may: use a software or hardware mixer. |
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| 02:38.08 | dondelelcaro | stormrider_may: in most cases, alsa can provide it for you. |
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| 02:38.25 | stormrider_may | dondelelcaro, could you tell an example? |
| 02:38.28 | simonrvn | and in recent alsa dmix is enabled by default |
| 02:38.41 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: it'll be less of a headache getting him to install polypaudio or arts... |
| 02:38.56 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, the last msg i got was + ucf --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 02:39.08 | simonrvn | hmm, i wonder if voltaire compiled the new openldap ... |
| 02:39.15 | sanmarcos | vultures!! |
| 02:39.26 | shogunx | Gnea, how about a source package that does not build the themes or data, which are a seperate package? |
| 02:39.29 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: and what does ucf -v --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf; do? |
| 02:39.49 | Nacho_19LP | let me see... |
| 02:40.09 | Nacho_19LP | it says (in #flood) |
| 02:40.46 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: and echo $? right after? |
| 02:40.57 | stormrider_may | dondelelcaro, i have another problem with alsa (with my sound actually). After KDE is started it take me about 1 minute to get my sound card ready to use, until that i keep getting a message from xmms, for example, that my sound card is in use |
| 02:41.07 | shogunx | Gnea, or autoconf 2.59a-9 in one of the repositories might solve it too. |
| 02:41.10 | stormrider_may | even if there is no program using the sound card |
| 02:41.28 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, which "echo $"? |
| 02:41.48 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: echo $?; |
| 02:42.01 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: $? is the variable that reports the exit status of the last command run |
| 02:42.01 | Nacho_19LP | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.01 | Nacho_19LP | $ |
| 02:42.04 | Nacho_19LP | Ohhh |
| 02:42.09 | dondelelcaro | too late. |
| 02:42.18 | dondelelcaro | anyway, run ucf -v -d 2 --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf; |
| 02:42.29 | dondelelcaro | then echo $? |
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| 02:42.48 | Nacho_19LP | wow, i got another output |
| 02:43.00 | Nacho_19LP | ucf: The Debug value is 1 |
| 02:43.25 | dondelelcaro | and the echo $? output? |
| 02:43.42 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, i dont know what "$" means.... |
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| 02:44.01 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: type into your shell without the quotes "echo $?" |
| 02:44.10 | Nacho_19LP | yeah |
| 02:44.11 | Nacho_19LP | i got "0" |
| 02:44.34 | dondelelcaro | then it succeeded; your problem is elsewhere. Give me the whole output of dpkg --configure -a; now using the paster bot. |
| 02:44.35 | sanmarcos | echo $ |
| 02:44.42 | Nacho_19LP | ok |
| 02:44.54 | Nacho_19LP | in #flood |
| 02:44.59 | dondelelcaro | wherever |
| 02:45.20 | Nacho_19LP | ok |
| 02:45.33 | Nacho_19LP | using a .txt |
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| 02:47.48 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, there u have the error |
| 02:48.39 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: make the ucf line ucf -vd9 or simlar. |
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| 02:50.34 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, |
| 02:50.34 | Nacho_19LP | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.34 | Nacho_19LP | ucf: The Debug value is 9 |
| 02:51.20 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: no, I mean edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst and make the ucf line ucf -vd9 --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 02:51.55 | rockstar_ | Does anyone know of a bittorrent client that's not processor intensive? |
| 02:52.18 | zinx | rockstar_: depends on _when_ you want it to not be processor intensive |
| 02:52.30 | zinx | rockstar_: the hashing is always going to eat harddrive bandwidth/cpu |
| 02:52.49 | zinx | rock: you may try rtorrent if you don't want something magical and impossible. |
| 02:53.19 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, i“ve added ucf -vd9 --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf at the end |
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| 02:53.23 | rockstar_ | zinx, How 'bout when I want to watch a movie. I understand that hashing is always going to be a problem, but if I get 10 or 12 downloads going at the same time, everything slows horribly... |
| 02:53.49 | Nacho_19LP | and doing dpkg --configure -a i get the same error |
| 02:53.51 | zinx | rockstar_: rtorrent's probably the fastest you're going to get |
| 02:54.05 | shogunx | rockstar the btdownloadheadless app in both bittorrent and bittornado are pretty light. |
| 02:54.05 | rockstar_ | If I use nice, can I have mplayer bump to the top priority, without starting anything else with nice as well? |
| 02:54.15 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: not at the end. Replacing the line that is there currently. |
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| 02:54.37 | CHodapp | rockstar_, give it a negative priority for that |
| 02:54.51 | Nacho_19LP | hahaah dondelelcaro i“ve no similar line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst |
| 02:54.55 | rockstar_ | shogunx, I'm actally using btdownloadgui right now... Python and wxwidgets, but I have no idea why that would slow it down... wierd. |
| 02:55.20 | rockstar_ | CHodapp, you mean like nice -19 mplayer /path/to/movie ? |
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| 02:55.37 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: uh... ucf --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf <-- this line ring a bell? |
| 02:55.38 | DaBlade | Hello |
| 02:56.03 | sid | !greet DaBlade |
| 02:56.03 | dpkg | Hi there, DaBlade |
| 02:56.07 | DaBlade | I just did an apt-get upgrade, and it upgraded xorg. Now X refuses to start, even though I reinstalled the driver. |
| 02:56.10 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, nop!!! i don“t get any error! |
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| 02:56.19 | DaBlade | Anyone mind giving me a hand? |
| 02:56.24 | stormrider_may | Is it possible to run the amazing XGL on Debian? Any tutorials? |
| 02:56.30 | rockstar_ | DaBlade, are you using fglrx? How about fonts? I assume this is upgrade to sid? |
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| 02:56.42 | DaBlade | rockstar_: I said I reinstalled the nvidia driver... ;) |
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| 02:57.03 | sid | DaBlade: What version of debian? |
| 02:57.03 | DaBlade | rockstar_: No, it wasn't - Just a regular apt-get update;apt-get upgrade on etch |
| 02:57.08 | DaBlade | sid: Etch |
| 02:57.30 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: so it's succeeding now? |
| 02:57.35 | rockstar_ | DaBlade, hm, I don't know then. I haven't own nvidia in a while. If it was xorg 7 I could give you some pointers though. |
| 02:57.46 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, let me see dpkg --configure -a ... |
| 02:57.53 | DaBlade | I think it was Xorg 7 yes |
| 02:58.06 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, |
| 02:58.07 | Nacho_19LP | + ucf --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 02:58.07 | Nacho_19LP | dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): |
| 02:58.23 | DaBlade | Anyway, this is the error message startx outputs: |
| 02:58.24 | DaBlade | no screens found |
| 02:58.28 | DaBlade | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
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| 02:59.09 | bhagabhi | DaBlade: Havn't seen the full discussion - but the Xorg 7 update on Etch today broke my Nvidia based system too... You are not alone... |
| 02:59.21 | DaBlade | bhagabhi: Brilliant. |
| 02:59.34 | DaBlade | bhagabhi: I wish they'd warn people against upgrading then... |
| 03:00.34 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: change that ucf line to be ucf -vd9 --debconf-ok /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
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| 03:00.48 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: I don't know how I can make it much clearer than that |
| 03:01.01 | bhagabhi | DaBlade: You manage to get the Nvidia-driver reinstalled? When I reinstall and reboot I get errors that it can't find the Nvidia-kernel-module - but I do as I have done a million times using the Nvidia-installer... |
| 03:01.18 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, ok, but in /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst i dont have a "ucf" line |
| 03:02.00 | DaBlade | bhagabhi: I use the standard nvidia shell script installer |
| 03:02.19 | DaBlade | bhagabhi: The installer works, but X doesn't |
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| 03:02.32 | bhagabhi | Yeah - same with me! 8762? |
| 03:02.42 | DaBlade | If that's the latest, yes |
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| 03:03.12 | DaBlade | 8762 |
| 03:03.12 | DaBlade | Yup |
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| 03:03.38 | bhagabhi | DaBlade: ah. Good to know I'm not alone at least... |
| 03:03.46 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: it's in /usr/sbin/modules-config actually... |
| 03:03.56 | DaBlade | bhagabhi: I guess... |
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| 03:04.06 | ahoora | hi guys, i am ubuntu user and want to move to debian in the website there were more than 10 CDs .... isn't there any one cd iso file to download and install debian? |
| 03:04.22 | Nacho_19LP | ok dondelelcaro |
| 03:04.24 | Nacho_19LP | let me see |
| 03:04.27 | abrotman | !d-i ahoora |
| 03:04.28 | dpkg | ahoora, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 03:04.46 | ahoora | thx abortman |
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| 03:04.59 | stormrider_may | any could tell a tutorial to xgl on debian? |
| 03:05.05 | Xgates | if you have /dev/sdb1 isn't it for Grub on the install done as ---> grub> root (hd1,0)? |
| 03:05.09 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, although i made the change from ucf --debconf to ucd -vd9 --debconf i get the same error!! |
| 03:05.10 | DaBlade | ahoora: You probably want Debian Etch, not Sarge as it's fairly old. |
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| 03:05.17 | javixBSD | hi |
| 03:05.18 | Nacho_19LP | as if I havent made the change =( |
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| 03:06.11 | DaBlade | So does anyone have any ideas regarding how to fix this? |
| 03:06.37 | javixBSD | Banana, hi man |
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| 03:07.15 | dondelelcaro | Nacho_19LP: you will, but there should be more output. |
| 03:07.36 | Nacho_19LP | dondelelcaro, i will paste it |
| 03:07.48 | javixBSD | Nacho_19LP, hey nacho |
| 03:07.54 | Nacho_19LP | hi javixBSD |
| 03:08.00 | Nacho_19LP | wow, from arg |
| 03:08.01 | Nacho_19LP | he |
| 03:08.10 | javixBSD | Nacho_19LP, yes utn jeje |
| 03:08.14 | Nacho_19LP | hahaha |
| 03:08.21 | Nacho_19LP | im from la plata hahah |
| 03:09.06 | sanmarcos | sos del lobo? |
| 03:09.18 | Nacho_19LP | i“m pincha haha |
| 03:09.24 | sanmarcos | noo, huira |
| 03:09.32 | Nacho_19LP | haha |
| 03:09.34 | javixBSD | Nacho_19LP, I a m cordoba |
| 03:09.36 | Phire | I'm installing debian via debootstrap, and I run base-config and configure apt and choose my host, but when it tests that host (any host) it resolves the ip as 1.0.0.0 |
| 03:09.46 | Nacho_19LP | javixBSD, msn? |
| 03:10.08 | sanmarcos | Nacho_19LP: #debian-ar |
| 03:10.09 | Phire | network is working, and so is dns |
| 03:10.15 | ahoora | dablade how can i get etch? it is not in the link you gave me |
| 03:10.16 | Nacho_19LP | ok! |
| 03:10.25 | DaBlade | ahoora: I didn't give you any links |
| 03:10.35 | javixBSD | Nacho_19LP, /joinn #grulic |
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| 03:10.45 | DaBlade | ahoora: And I'm not capable to now either, sorry. |
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| 03:11.06 | DaBlade | Can anyone point ahoora to the Etch netinstall page? (I think it was the installer page) |
| 03:11.53 | bhagabhi | ahoora: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:12.11 | Phire | Is my irc client broken again, can anyone see this? |
| 03:12.21 | ahoora | thank you |
| 03:12.23 | DaBlade | Phire: No. |
| 03:12.27 | Phire | ok |
| 03:12.30 | DaBlade | :) |
| 03:12.59 | Phire | so no one know how to solve my problem |
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| 03:13.31 | DaBlade | Phire: Well, if we can't read what you say, we can't solve your problem. Sorry. :) |
| 03:13.43 | Phire | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.28 | DaBlade | It doesn't have the appropriate network drivers compiled in/modules? |
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| 03:14.44 | Phire | I can ping google, and that server |
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| 03:16.38 | theBeno | Hey guys, anyone here use DSL (Damn Small Linux)? |
| 03:16.38 | Phire | There is an edit source list by hand, how would I add a source that would point to the ip, instead of the domain name? |
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| 03:17.24 | simonrvn | Phire: be easier to fix your DNS ... |
| 03:17.25 | Dan39 | hello |
| 03:17.34 | theBeno | Anyone alive? |
| 03:17.35 | Phire | DNS is working |
| 03:18.04 | Phire | however the base system is missing dig or nslookup |
| 03:18.34 | Dan39 | should i update programs past the debian package, or is teh debian package made special to work well with debian? |
| 03:18.34 | Phire | theBeno: yes, we are alive |
| 03:19.04 | theBeno | Phire: yay! You use linux? |
| 03:19.27 | Phire | not DSL, this is a debian room |
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| 03:19.57 | Dwonis | wow.. just wow. |
| 03:20.06 | Dan39 | ? |
| 03:20.10 | Phire | ? |
| 03:20.13 | pheonix1984 | Ok, so i'm still having problems with Debian on my first boot after install. I'm getting "/etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204: XXX Segmentation fault." (images d/l last night, Sarge install, acpi off tested). Any suggestsions? Please help. |
| 03:20.27 | Dwonis | This is offtopic, but I had my IM away message sarcastically set to "Microsoft Active Web 2.0 .NET" |
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| 03:20.38 | Dwonis | and a friend of mine pointed me to this: http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000001706? |
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| 03:21.54 | pheonix1984 | Anyone have any suggestions? |
| 03:21.55 | Phire | strange, it just started working. |
| 03:22.03 | Dan39 | lol |
| 03:22.10 | Dan39 | dang here comes the thunder |
| 03:22.15 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: it could be a hardware problem |
| 03:22.41 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: HW should be 100% fine: I had windows installed and working perfectly until today |
| 03:22.43 | freakazoid0223 | im in southeast bucks county ...where you at Dan |
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| 03:22.58 | pheonix1984 | last actual message is " usb.c:registered new driver hub" |
| 03:23.01 | Phire | pheonix1984: you could try adding more fans, that what i do when have segmentation faults |
| 03:23.06 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: well if Windows is "working perfectly" for you, why do you need Debian? ;) |
| 03:23.09 | freakazoid0223 | (near phila) |
| 03:23.19 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: Does that error break anything? |
| 03:23.29 | pheonix1984 | lol...I was just thinking that I'd like to try something else :) |
| 03:23.40 | widrone | debootstrapping a remote server over a 64k line, damnit I need to remember to pay my bandwith bills. |
| 03:23.50 | Phire | lol |
| 03:23.55 | pheonix1984 | = Linux Noob (for the most part), what do you mean by does it break anything? |
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| 03:24.23 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I mean after you get that error, does your computer otherwise work? |
| 03:24.47 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: discover is a program that's supposed to do hardware auto-detection |
| 03:24.50 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: No. It just hangs there; blinking cursor |
| 03:25.06 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm... What hardware do you have? |
| 03:25.10 | Dan39 | hey guys |
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| 03:25.25 | pheonix1984 | This is the first boot after install (have tried clean, full install from working discs 3x now). |
| 03:25.33 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: "Segmentation fault" is like "illegal operation" in Windows... it doesn't really tell you a whole lot, other than that some program crashed |
| 03:25.40 | redblades | Hi, I'm using webdav, and I was wondering, how can I put an icon next to the content of a directory? |
| 03:25.48 | Dan39 | i did an apt-get to install firefox, and its version 1.0.4, when there is firefox v1.5.x lol, should i just leave it with the debian package? |
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| 03:25.56 | Phire | is it the same error every time? |
| 03:26.16 | pheonix1984 | It's a laptop. (eMachines specifically). PIV 2.8 |
| 03:26.16 | redblades | i.e. mp3's have a mucal not, folders have a folder icon, etc, etc |
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| 03:26.33 | Dwonis | Dan39: Are you running sarge or something else? |
| 03:26.37 | Dan39 | sarge |
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| 03:27.00 | main | Why does kernel 2.6.8 and greater cause my laptop's fan to shut off? |
| 03:27.02 | abrotman | that's the way debian/stable works |
| 03:27.03 | main | I can only run for a little while and then the keyboard gets too hot to touch. |
| 03:27.16 | Dan39 | Debian package 1.0.4-2sarge4. thats newest right? |
| 03:27.18 | abrotman | Dan39: it's actually 1.0.7 .. |
| 03:27.28 | abrotman | Dan39: yep .. that's the newest for sarge .. |
| 03:27.31 | abrotman | officially anyways |
| 03:27.32 | Dwonis | Dan39: Well, if you want to upgrade Firefox, you could switch to testing (and of course risk the possible breakage), or you could try backports, which can still break things but it usually breaks less at a time :) |
| 03:27.48 | cheal | Dan39: no, it's 1.0.4-2sarge7 |
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| 03:27.50 | Dan39 | haha |
| 03:28.05 | main | My lap is ...NOT COMFORTABLE |
| 03:28.10 | abrotman | !info mozilla-firefox sarge |
| 03:28.14 | Dwonis | cheal: where did sarge7 come from? |
| 03:28.16 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-2sarge4 (sarge), Packaged size: 8681 kB, Installed size: 24392 kB |
| 03:28.27 | redblades | Oh, Synaptic say I have 1 broken package |
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| 03:28.34 | main | I need a CPU fan. |
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| 03:28.40 | redblades | it says use "broken" filter |
| 03:28.43 | cheal | Dwonis: stable-security? |
| 03:28.47 | redblades | how do I fix it? |
| 03:28.51 | Dwonis | cheal: ah. |
| 03:28.51 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis, any other suggestions for me? |
| 03:29.04 | Dan39 | o well |
| 03:29.04 | main | Why doesn't my fan work in kernel 2.6? |
| 03:29.07 | abrotman | cheal: no .. that sarge4 is the newest |
| 03:29.10 | Dan39 | this is fine i guess |
| 03:29.25 | main | I am going to have to reboot soon. |
| 03:29.25 | Dan39 | they need to work on getting a 1.5.x workin for debian tho |
| 03:29.40 | abrotman | cheal: eh .. weird .. http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=mozilla-firefox |
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| 03:29.48 | cheal | abrotman: see DSA-1055 |
| 03:29.53 | abrotman | Dan39: you're on sarge .. sarge doesn't get new versions |
| 03:29.54 | main | Please answer before my laptop gets too hot and I have to reboot again to get the fan to come back on. |
| 03:30.03 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm... laptops can be quirky |
| 03:30.04 | abrotman | cheal: i'm just showing you what's on the website |
| 03:30.18 | abrotman | main: try some acpi stuff |
| 03:30.20 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Always good news :( |
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| 03:30.41 | main | abrotman: I have acpid installed and the kernel is compiled with ACPI support. |
| 03:30.50 | cheal | abrotman: "1.0.4-2sarge7: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc" |
| 03:30.51 | abrotman | did you try to control any of the acpi devices? |
| 03:30.57 | abrotman | cheal: and what's the next line down? |
| 03:31.04 | abrotman | and why did the bot say sarge4 ? |
| 03:31.04 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I'm sure that you can get it to work, if it's booting already, I just don't know enough to help you... at least, not without some logs or something |
| 03:31.12 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: have you tried booting single-user? |
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| 03:31.27 | pheonix1984 | Booting single-user? |
| 03:31.29 | cheal | abrotman: because the bot doesn't check stable-security? |
| 03:31.31 | abrotman | phoenix ? |
| 03:31.37 | Dan39 | in just dit apt-get install mozilla-firefox a few minutes ago, sarge 7 was updated in the last minute? heh |
| 03:31.41 | abrotman | cheal: yes he does .. or the sarge4 wouldn't have been there |
| 03:31.45 | main | pheonix1984: RAFB |
| 03:31.49 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: what bootloader do you have (GRUB or LILO) |
| 03:32.03 | abrotman | bah .. don't care |
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| 03:32.12 | pheonix1984 | Grub |
| 03:32.13 | cheal | abrotman: sarge4 is the version in the latest point release |
| 03:32.20 | abrotman | cheal: night :) |
| 03:32.27 | cheal | abrotman: good night |
| 03:32.29 | abrotman | don't care enough to argue :) |
| 03:32.38 | Dan39 | haha o wel |
| 03:32.39 | Dan39 | l |
| 03:32.41 | Dan39 | its all good |
| 03:32.53 | cheal | heh, would be hard to argue that |
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| 03:33.13 | main | How do I stop the laptop's video from going nuts? |
| 03:33.43 | Dan39 | ooo another thing, my sound stopped working |
| 03:33.46 | Dwonis | yeah, apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox shows 1.0.4-2sarge7 for security.debian.org stable/updates/main |
| 03:33.50 | pheonix1984 | RAFB? Sorry, like I said, I'm pretty much a linux noob. I apologize for that, but I'd really like some help with this, makes no sense. I have a feeling it has something to do with drivers or specifically usb ones as that is where it makes it before crashing. |
| 03:33.59 | Dan39 | one day it jus started giving me error saing it couldnt find sound or sometin |
| 03:34.02 | Dan39 | it worked fine b4 |
| 03:34.04 | Dan39 | =\ |
| 03:34.29 | widrone | !b4 |
| 03:34.29 | dpkg | i guess b4 is try "before", dude. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO! |
| 03:34.46 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, single-user mode would be the same as "recovery mode" |
| 03:34.47 | deadcat | bingo |
| 03:34.55 | pheonix1984 | Yes, I've tried recovery |
| 03:35.00 | pheonix1984 | same problem actually |
| 03:35.40 | Dan39 | ? |
| 03:35.41 | seb- | pheonix1984: what did you mean by "acpi off"? |
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| 03:35.53 | seb- | pheonix1984: do you turn it off yourself? |
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| 03:35.59 | Dan39 | is sometin wrong with using "b4"? |
| 03:36.33 | pheonix1984 | Ah, yes, I've added in the line to turn off acpi, was suggested previously, but the guy helping had to leave |
| 03:36.36 | Dwonis | Dan39: no, assuming you don't have a full keyboard. Otherwise, yes. |
| 03:36.50 | Dan39 | o well i guess ill have to say before to make u dang debian people happy =] |
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| 03:36.55 | seb- | pheonix1984: turn off apm too |
| 03:37.03 | deadcat | !u |
| 03:37.03 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:37.11 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: did it help, or not? |
| 03:37.16 | seb- | pheonix1984: reboot with "acpi=off apm=off" |
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| 03:37.26 | freakazoid0223 | o...ic |
| 03:37.28 | seb- | pheonix1984: you installed udev and discover? |
| 03:37.30 | Dan39 | so, little help with the audio please? |
| 03:37.33 | pheonix1984 | will do, trying now |
| 03:37.38 | nukemecca | abbrevs. r lame |
| 03:37.40 | seb- | pheonix1984: when you do "dpkg -l" do you see them? |
| 03:37.44 | seb- | nukemecca: k |
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| 03:37.50 | pheonix1984 | seb-, no everything is preconfigged with DVD images :\ |
| 03:37.51 | Supaplex | !lart freakazoid0223 with a large book and |
| 03:38.05 | seb- | pheonix1984: no to what? |
| 03:38.13 | Supaplex | brutal :P |
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| 03:38.29 | Dan39 | loud* |
| 03:38.44 | freakazoid0223 | what not solaris 10 :P |
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| 03:38.54 | Dan39 | can i do those commands with dpkg? |
| 03:38.56 | Dan39 | !u |
| 03:38.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:38.59 | Dan39 | =D |
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| 03:39.05 | Dan39 | !typo |
| 03:39.06 | dpkg | i heard typo is when someone tries to type really fast without knowing what he is actually doing.... so he makes typing mistakes, or rm -rf / |
| 03:39.11 | pheonix1984 | seb-: I didn't install |
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| 03:39.43 | widrone | !tell Dan39 about dpkg |
| 03:39.44 | seb- | pheonix1984: did you see those packages when you do 'dpkg -l' ? |
| 03:39.46 | [Thom] | What does this mean on IRC: You need to be identified to join that channel |
| 03:39.47 | [Thom] | ? |
| 03:39.47 | Dwonis | !msg the bot |
| 03:39.51 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". |
| 03:40.01 | seb- | [Thom]: you need to register your nick |
| 03:40.07 | peterS | [Thom]: identified means that the 'nickserv' bot knows about you. register with '/msg nickserv help' |
| 03:40.21 | pheonix1984 | seb-: I can't make it far enough to type in the console/terminal |
| 03:40.38 | [Thom] | peterS thanks |
| 03:40.56 | seb- | pheonix1984: try booting with recovery mode and do that command |
| 03:40.56 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: To get a console, add this to your kernel parameters: "init=/bin/sh" |
| 03:41.02 | widrone | Dan39: Your problem with soundd would be not having any then I guess? Anymore info, probably missed it myself. What hw? |
| 03:41.04 | Dwonis | seb-: he apparently tried that already |
| 03:41.26 | seb- | pheonix1984: show the error message again |
| 03:41.38 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: Then, you'll need to run something like "mount / -o remount,rw ; /etc/init.d/udev start ; mount -a" or somesuch |
| 03:41.38 | Dan39 | yes, no sound |
| 03:42.14 | widrone | And no ping! |
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| 03:42.17 | pheonix1984 | Thank you Dwonis, trying now, @seb-: ok, I"ll try that |
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| 03:42.30 | Dan39 | that didnt work like planned |
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| 03:43.43 | Dan39 | you guys got any idea for reconfiguring/detecting speakers?i know you do ;) |
| 03:43.57 | seb- | Dan39: run alsaconf |
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| 03:45.18 | pheonix1984 | With APM=off, I'm getting something slightly different, no Seg Fault, btw. It's just saying usb.c: registered new driver hub, etc.. |
| 03:46.33 | pheonix1984 | BTW, I also tried your suggestion of typing init=/bin/sh and it's still stopping at the same point |
| 03:47.02 | seb- | pheonix1984: what does it stop on? |
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| 03:47.17 | widrone | pheonix1984: Any way to turn off hw in the bios to try and isolate the subsystem that breaks everything maybe? |
| 03:47.41 | Dwonis | seb-: I'm guessing it's the initrd... or he's lying |
| 03:47.58 | pheonix1984 | My fault, it's now making it to the sh-2.05b#/terminal |
| 03:48.02 | pheonix1984 | Sorry, I had a typo |
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| 03:48.25 | widrone | pheonix1984: I had luck with that on multiple laptops that were a bit "strange". |
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| 03:48.40 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok basically "init=/bin/sh" bypasses most of the boot process and drops you into a shell very early on |
| 03:48.52 | seb- | Dwonis: nice,,,i didn't know that |
| 03:48.53 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: as a result, most drivers aren't loaded, and your filesystems are read-only |
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| 03:49.04 | pheonix1984 | widrone: HW should not be an issue, but I will try that if nothing else works. (All HW was working yesterday). |
| 03:49.09 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: so: "mount / -o remount,rw" |
| 03:49.19 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: and write this stuff down for if you ever need it again |
| 03:49.35 | pheonix1984 | mount / -o remount,rw |
| 03:49.44 | pheonix1984 | oops, lol, wrong keyboard :\ |
| 03:50.08 | widrone | pheonix1984: Im not saying you have faulty hw, im saying maybe some of the hw is triggering something in sw. And by turning stuff off you are able to troubleshoot more easy. Like narrowing your search. |
| 03:50.20 | pheonix1984 | Believe me, I will be copying all of this help into a textpad on this machine. |
| 03:51.00 | pheonix1984 | widrone: Ah, I see what you mean. I can try turning off a couple of things (possibly, don't know bios options |
| 03:51.20 | pheonix1984 | don't remember bios options that is*). |
| 03:51.44 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: so "mount / -o remount,rw" remounts your / partition as read-write. Next, run "/etc/init.d/udev start" |
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| 03:52.08 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: After typing that I get "EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,1), internal journal and beck to the sh# |
| 03:52.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: good. that's what you should get (or just nothing displayed at all... error messages would be bad) |
| 03:52.45 | gteppel | I just bought a printer that was advertised as compatible with Linux, what they didn't mention was you needed to use their custom gui installer, the problem is I wanted to install the printer on my headless debian server. So to install the printer I was forced to install xserver and run the x installer via x-forwarding. Anyways what my question is is there a program or a way in debian to monitor all disk activity so I can run this inst |
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| 03:53.07 | Dwonis | gteppel: what printer? |
| 03:53.13 | gteppel | Samsung ML-2010 |
| 03:53.37 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Now I've got an error. = "/etc/init.d/udev: No Such file..." |
| 03:54.08 | pheonix1984 | Should I apt-get install udev and then run it? |
| 03:54.17 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: no, that won't work yet |
| 03:54.22 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: what does "uname -r" show? |
| 03:54.24 | widrone | pheonix1984: Its quick and dirty the bios way, and you dont really solve anything. So keep going where you are going now, Im learning along with you... |
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| 03:54.41 | bnovc | i've changed X11 forwarding to yes in sshd and restarted it and have done ssh -X <server ip> and tried to run a program and it says no display |
| 03:54.46 | pheonix1984 | Ah. Sorry, jumping ahead: uname -r = 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 03:54.48 | bnovc | when i try running xauth it says no display |
| 03:55.05 | Dwonis | gteppel: you could try strace or ltrace, but those are fairly low-level.. There's also checkinstall |
| 03:55.19 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ah... no, then udev would be inappropriate |
| 03:55.21 | gteppel | Dwonis: okay I'll look into them, thank you |
| 03:55.23 | pheonix1984 | widrone: I do appreciate your help, too. I was already started down this path though :) |
| 03:55.24 | deadcat | gteppel: you have to use the driver from the cd |
| 03:55.24 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: /etc/init.d/devfsd start |
| 03:55.55 | gteppel | deadcat: I know, but i'd like to basically write a script that does what the cd does so I don't have to have x installed on my box |
| 03:55.58 | Dwonis | gteppel: speaking of which, a 2.6 kernel might work better |
| 03:55.58 | pheonix1984 | udev / devfsd? Should I just look these up? I'm thinking file system apps... |
| 03:56.04 | Dwonis | gteppel: sorry, that wasn't for you |
| 03:56.12 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: speaking of which, a 2.6 kernel might work better |
| 03:56.21 | Serinity | I have a free partition on my hard drive... seems i'm gonna need :( windblows installed on that one... The thing is i don't want to risk my pinguin by letting windows installer write on the mbr, touch partitions and such. Is there any way to install windows on this partition without having it writting on the mbr by for example letting it think the partition is the whole drive by running it in an emulator ? would be be possible ? any |
| 03:56.21 | Serinity | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.22 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: They both deal with populating /dev |
| 03:56.24 | deadcat | gteppel: ya.. the damn gui thing is pretty annoying |
| 03:57.29 | Serinity | I find the gui to be a great thing when you have to deal with pictures :P |
| 03:57.34 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: what we're doing so far is just doing part of the boot process so that you view logs and do stuff like apt-get |
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| 03:57.51 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: after you've started devfsd, run "mount -a" |
| 03:57.56 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I'm getting the same No such File.... error with that command |
| 03:58.05 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: with which command? |
| 03:58.30 | pheonix1984 | The /etc/init.d/devfsd start command |
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| 03:59.07 | Dwonis | does anyone know if sarge (with 2.4 kernel) installs devfsd by default? |
| 03:59.13 | pheonix1984 | ls /etc/init.d/ shows nothing dev other than "makedev" |
| 03:59.22 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: wha? |
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| 03:59.34 | pheonix1984 | err..only dev related item |
| 03:59.34 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: oh... I bet I know |
| 03:59.45 | pheonix1984 | plenty of other stuff there, of course |
| 04:00.02 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok... please be specific. you almost had me thinking it was a different problem |
| 04:00.09 | peterS | Dwonis: I thought it did but I haven't done a sarge install with 2.4 in some time |
| 04:00.19 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Very sorry. I will try to be more accurate. |
| 04:00.26 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, well, just try "mount -a" anyway |
| 04:01.04 | pheonix1984 | I have no problem reinstalling with 2.6 kernel. Not worried about any data, etc... I'll try this if you think it's a better idea. |
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| 04:01.21 | peterS | Dwonis: the sarge-with-2.4 I'm logged into shows evidence that devfsd was once installed but is no longer. fwiw. |
| 04:01.26 | Dan39 | alsaconf not found (sorry im a lil late with this...) |
| 04:01.29 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: mount -a = success, I assume, no errors |
| 04:01.36 | Dwonis | peterS: ok, thanks |
| 04:01.47 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: it might. If it were me, I'd definitely try the 2.6 install before trying to debug 2.4 errors |
| 04:02.22 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Thank you, reinstalling now. I will stick around for your help though--assuming I run into trouble :) |
| 04:02.35 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok |
| 04:03.12 | Dan39 | .... |
| 04:03.29 | Dan39 | do you guys not like me, or is it just late? |
| 04:03.44 | widrone | pheonix1984: Go gettem! |
| 04:03.50 | pheonix1984 | I think I was hogging there time Dan39 |
| 04:04.08 | Dan39 | heh |
| 04:04.10 | pheonix1984 | Thanks widrone, hopefully this install will work w/o any problem |
| 04:04.12 | Dwonis | Dan39: we can not like you if it makes you feel better |
| 04:04.12 | Dan39 | its ok |
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| 04:04.23 | Dan39 | ooo no its ok |
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| 04:05.02 | widrone | Dan39: No alsaconf, then install it maybe? Since its the software for configuring the soundsubsystem alsa... |
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| 04:05.18 | Dwonis | widrone, Dan39: I think the package is alsa-base |
| 04:05.27 | Dan39 | hmmm |
| 04:05.37 | Dan39 | but i did have sound working before |
| 04:05.45 | Dan39 | ill jus install that |
| 04:06.37 | Serinity | i think it's alsa-utils |
| 04:06.45 | Serinity | or something of that kind |
| 04:06.48 | Dwonis | !alsa |
| 04:06.48 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/ |
| 04:06.52 | Dwonis | !alsa-checklist |
| 04:06.53 | dpkg | well, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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| 04:08.56 | Serinity | Dan39, alsaconf _is_ in alsa-utils |
| 04:09.08 | Serinity | i checked |
| 04:09.11 | Dan39 | to ru alsaconf, would i jus go into terminal and do exec alsaconf? |
| 04:09.18 | Dan39 | or jus alsaconf? |
| 04:09.33 | Dwonis | Dan39: you probably don't want to use the exec command |
| 04:09.36 | Dan39 | dang typos, sorry i got an all black keyboard and the keys are hard to see |
| 04:09.45 | Dwonis | Dan39: it would be just alsaconf |
| 04:09.52 | Dan39 | ok |
| 04:10.01 | Serinity | Dan39, did you try as root something like cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp or so (of course if you have oss compat) |
| 04:10.31 | Dwonis | hah! alsaconf killal whatever processes are using the sound device! |
| 04:10.54 | Serinity | Dwonis, without warning ? |
| 04:11.25 | Dwonis | Serinity: well, it displays a dialog first that says "You should stop all sound applications now." |
| 04:11.37 | Dwonis | Serinity: I think it just killed artsd |
| 04:11.53 | Dwonis | I've never actually run alsaconf on this machine |
| 04:11.57 | Serinity | It never did this for me.... |
| 04:12.04 | Serinity | Might be a new bug... |
| 04:12.43 | Dwonis | Serinity: it's probably a feature. |
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| 04:12.48 | chron | where is xorg.conf |
| 04:12.54 | Dwonis | Serinity: you can't remove the existing sound modules if they're in use |
| 04:12.55 | peterS | /etc/X11 |
| 04:12.55 | Serinity | Dwonis, any difference ? :) |
| 04:12.59 | chron | not in there |
| 04:13.04 | Dwonis | Serinity: and difference with what? |
| 04:13.10 | Dan39 | well i dont think i needed alsoconf, but it may make it easier |
| 04:13.10 | chron | and i'm on X |
| 04:13.18 | Serinity | bug, feature |
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| 04:13.36 | Serinity | sounds more like a bug |
| 04:13.47 | Serinity | not a feature |
| 04:13.53 | Serinity | it would have warned before |
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| 04:13.57 | ipfw | chron: most *nix boxen have a 'find' command ... find / -name "xorg.conf" |
| 04:14.02 | chump | hey guys |
| 04:14.05 | Serinity | that it was going to kil 'em all |
| 04:14.06 | simonrvn | /etc/X11 |
| 04:14.06 | Dwonis | Serinity: heh. This isn't proprietary software with a multi-billion dollar advertising company behind it, so yes |
| 04:14.14 | chron | well where is it on default debian |
| 04:14.15 | chron | lol |
| 04:14.22 | sid | What is that game with the little ball...and you bounce is vertical and it knocks out little rectangle boxes. |
| 04:14.23 | peterS | that's where it is on default debian |
| 04:14.26 | sid | And you have to get rid of all the boxes. |
| 04:14.27 | sid | It's in main |
| 04:14.33 | chron | i don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 04:14.34 | Dan39 | hmmm |
| 04:14.36 | chron | for some reason |
| 04:14.37 | freakazoid0223 | lbreakout? |
| 04:14.39 | chron | and i am on gnome |
| 04:14.42 | peterS | sid: it's called breakout, there are quite a few free software versions floating around by different names |
| 04:14.44 | widrone | sid: Arcanoid? |
| 04:14.44 | Dwonis | chron: you might have /etc/X11/XF86Config |
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| 04:14.49 | simonrvn | /etc/X11 |
| 04:14.53 | Dan39 | how i get to the debian configuration for sound stuff? |
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| 04:15.02 | sid | thanks peterS |
| 04:15.02 | peterS | sid: lbreakout and lbreakout2 are or were in debian, I know |
| 04:15.10 | sid | widrone: nope, but good guess. |
| 04:15.27 | chump | arcanoid |
| 04:15.28 | chump | YEAH |
| 04:15.37 | chump | best part is its has engrish |
| 04:15.38 | widrone | sid: Dang, Ill play again later then... |
| 04:15.50 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I'm back... Getting same error(s). (discover/line 204/Seg Fault/last line = usbcore: registered new driver hub). This is with the 2.6 Kernel installed. |
| 04:15.57 | freakazoid0223 | the arkanoid games were da bomb |
| 04:16.06 | chron | ah ok |
| 04:16.10 | chron | XF86Config |
| 04:16.12 | freakazoid0223 | revenge in particular |
| 04:16.17 | chron | well that' some gay shit, i hate Xfree |
| 04:16.22 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm... it sounds very much like your USB host controller is acting up, although I could be wrong. |
| 04:16.28 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: This is with recovery mode, with acpi=off, apm=off (both), etc.. :\ |
| 04:16.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: Try hitting Ctrl-C a few times |
| 04:17.13 | pheonix1984 | Cancel/Ctrl-C aren't doing anything...completely frozen other than the cursor blinking |
| 04:17.20 | Dwonis | chron: how exactly does excrement be homosexual... or happy? ;) |
| 04:17.42 | chron | #stfu |
| 04:17.48 | chron | there's a place for you, ask for ops |
| 04:17.52 | pheonix1984 | I'll try widrone's theory of turning it off in bios if that's possible |
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| 04:18.21 | chron | how do you go into pure terminal mode on debian |
| 04:18.27 | widrone | pheonix1984: And then see if the install passes the point, least you nailed it then. But youre usbless... |
| 04:18.28 | chron | getting out of this gdm |
| 04:18.32 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: type Alt-SysRq-z |
| 04:18.37 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: does anything display? |
| 04:18.40 | Dan39 | should i probe ISA, it says may make unstable system...? |
| 04:18.57 | widrone | Dan39: Is you soundcard ISA? |
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| 04:19.13 | Dan39 | i have no idea |
| 04:19.29 | widrone | Dan39: Then its probably not I recon. |
| 04:19.32 | Dwonis | Dan39: how old if your computer? |
| 04:19.32 | peterS | Dan39: what type of system is this? is it a separate sound card or something built in to your system? |
| 04:19.40 | Dan39 | built in |
| 04:19.40 | Dwonis | s/if/is/ |
| 04:19.51 | Dan39 | i plug speakers into it, u know |
| 04:19.52 | peterS | Dan39: ok that's one answer, but I asked two questions |
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| 04:20.08 | Dan39 | its an old dell |
| 04:20.10 | Dan39 | not sure how old |
| 04:20.18 | Dan39 | got this comp for free from bulky waste |
| 04:20.30 | Dan39 | i know the sound works, i had it working before |
| 04:20.32 | peterS | Dan39: so like Pentium II, or what? Pentium II era systems often had ISA sound chips, newer systems not so often |
| 04:20.42 | Dan39 | III, almost 500mhz |
| 04:20.52 | peterS | yeah, could still go either way |
| 04:20.54 | Dwonis | Dan39: I assume you tried installing aumix and adjusting the volume, right? |
| 04:21.04 | widrone | Dan39: lspci output in some paster? Im putting my money on a generic 401 onboard pci, but Id like to see. |
| 04:21.10 | Dan39 | i think thats what messed it up |
| 04:21.21 | Dan39 | it was working fine, then i tried doing something to get voule adjustment |
| 04:21.23 | peterS | a PIII 500 MHz could easily have onboard ISA sound, like a yamaha OPL-SAx chip |
| 04:21.26 | Dan39 | and after that it didnt work |
| 04:21.30 | pheonix1984 | Ok, when loading it back to try the Alt-Sysrq-z combo, I'm getting a different error: still Seg Fault on line 204 of S36discover; however the last thing displayed is "<6>Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones |
| 04:21.59 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm, that doesn't necessarily mean anything |
| 04:22.10 | widrone | Dan39: Try reajusting the volume first then. You may be in luck. |
| 04:22.13 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: those are just the "hello" messages that show up when you load the drivers |
| 04:22.27 | Dan39 | where do i reajust the volume? |
| 04:22.36 | Dan39 | theres no voule thingy anywhere |
| 04:22.40 | Dan39 | that i can find >.< |
| 04:22.41 | peterS | Dan39: you run an app such as 'aumix' (if it's not installed, install it first) |
| 04:23.11 | seb- | Dan39: or kmix |
| 04:23.24 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, go back and do the init=/bin/sh thing, so you can get a shell |
| 04:23.25 | Dan39 | well which 1 is better? |
| 04:23.27 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Thought it may help...Anyway, the key combo is giving me this: "SysRq : HELP : loglevel0-8 reBoot tErm kIll saK showMem powerOff showPc unRaw Sync showTasks Unmount" |
| 04:23.46 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: On my way to the shell |
| 04:23.46 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, that means it's not locked up *completely* (i.e. the kernel is still running) |
| 04:24.15 | widrone | Dan39: Both are "the best", one is for console the other is for gui. |
| 04:24.57 | Dan39 | which is GUI? |
| 04:25.03 | Dan39 | au? |
| 04:25.25 | Dan39 | do i still need alsa? |
| 04:25.32 | Dwonis | Dan39: kmix is the GUI (k stands for "KDE") |
| 04:25.43 | `ns` | kmix , but you may not want it if you aren't already running kde |
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| 04:26.14 | pheonix1984 | Ok, I'm at the shell "prompt" |
| 04:26.39 | Dan39 | yea im on KDE |
| 04:26.46 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: mount / -o remount,rw ; /etc/init.d/devfsd start ; mount -a |
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| 04:27.43 | `ns` | I think there is a rule about all kde kprograms kstarting kwith k |
| 04:27.48 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: oops, that should probably be: "mount / -o remount,rw ; mount /proc ; mount /sys ; /etc/init.d/devfsd start ; mount -a" |
| 04:27.50 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: /etc/init.d/devfsd start = "No Such File or Directory..." |
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| 04:28.02 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: is there an /etc/init.d/udev ? |
| 04:28.08 | Dan39 | haha yea |
| 04:28.10 | Dan39 | k.... |
| 04:28.24 | Dan39 | it gets anoying having all this stuff packaged tho |
| 04:28.34 | Dan39 | is there some way to install stuff manually without apt-get? |
| 04:28.42 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: No udev or devfsd |
| 04:28.55 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, that's fine then. |
| 04:29.02 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: mount /proc ; mount /sys ; mount -a |
| 04:29.18 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Done, no errors. |
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| 04:30.00 | widrone | Dan39: You could wget the .deb and use dpkg, not that it would help you in your case. apt-get is your friend, keeps the dependancies all happy and warm. |
| 04:30.08 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: /etc/init.d/modutils start |
| 04:30.21 | widrone | ...no make that warm and fuzzy. |
| 04:30.48 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Started |
| 04:30.49 | Dan39 | hehe ok |
| 04:31.03 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, what kind of network support do you have? |
| 04:31.04 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: By the way, I really appreciate all of your help |
| 04:31.12 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: no problem :) |
| 04:31.14 | Dan39 | wat is up wit dpkg, is it just like apt? |
| 04:31.46 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I have built-in wireless and a wired connector |
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| 04:32.07 | widrone | !tell Dan39 about dpkg |
| 04:32.16 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, we'll use the wired connector when we get to it... they're usually easier to set up |
| 04:32.17 | pheonix1984 | lol...so ifconfig does nothing for me :\ Thought I could see what it has detected. |
| 04:32.26 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: /etc/init.d/networking start |
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| 04:32.45 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Np, cable is already connected. Wireless is not completely reliable, so I usually stay plugged up. |
| 04:32.48 | redblades | Hi, I installed apache from source |
| 04:32.54 | redblades | how do I remove it? |
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| 04:33.02 | widrone | Dan39: The last bit in the factoid gives a little hint. |
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| 04:33.32 | Dan39 | ive seen teh about screen |
| 04:33.37 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Bad news. eth0: ERROr geting interface flags; No such device |
| 04:33.40 | Dan39 | but it basically doesnt tell u much |
| 04:33.51 | Dan39 | o well |
| 04:33.53 | Dan39 | let that be |
| 04:33.55 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: oh, right |
| 04:33.57 | Dan39 | im gonna keep messing around |
| 04:34.25 | pheonix1984 | It apparently is not detecting either the wired or wireless "nics" yet |
| 04:34.27 | redblades | I compiled it, so how do I remove it? |
| 04:34.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: /etc/init.d/pcmcia-cs start |
| 04:34.36 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: or maybe /etc/init.d/pcmcia start |
| 04:34.39 | k8to | hi, new testing x11-common (v 1:7.020) explicitly conflicts with videogen (<=0.32-1), I am trying to figure out why by looking in the xorg package bugs, and the videogen bugs, and the mailing list search, I am failing |
| 04:34.40 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: or /etc/init.d/hotplug start |
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| 04:36.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: by the way, did you do a netinstall? |
| 04:36.55 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Tried the pcmcia-cs start and then the hotplug start. First one wasn't found, next loads up a lot and hits this: "pci.agent: line 156: Seg Fault.......... 'missing kernel or user mode driver i810_audio'" |
| 04:37.16 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: interesting... |
| 04:37.23 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: did you do a netinstall? |
| 04:37.25 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: No. I downloaded the DVD image file from Debian's site via jigdo. |
| 04:37.44 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: do you still have a prompt now? or is it hung up like before? |
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| 04:38.09 | pheonix1984 | Hung up as before |
| 04:38.36 | pheonix1984 | Sys req key combo appears to be telling me the same thing as before (not completely hung up..) |
| 04:38.37 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: press enter. still no prompt? |
| 04:38.56 | pheonix1984 | No, Ctrl-C doesn't do anything either |
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| 04:39.06 | widrone | pheonix1984: Is there really a i810 audio thing in the laptop? Or is it hanging because something thinks there is one? |
| 04:39.08 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: Ctrl-C won't at this point. |
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| 04:39.48 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: so it's definitely one of your drivers hitting something. ok, reboot, and do the entire process we just did, except for the hotplug step (and obviously the steps where it was "not found") |
| 04:39.49 | Dan39 | hmmm |
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| 04:40.06 | pheonix1984 | widrone: I'm thinking it's possible that there is an i810 audio device...as it's a laptop, audio is built in and I do not recall the mobo. I will try to find this info, though. |
| 04:40.24 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: working on it now |
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| 04:41.42 | widrone | pheonix1984: If you can run lspci and see when you get back up, just to doublecheck it. That may give a hint. |
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| 04:42.42 | coagen | umm what the hell is up with etch's xserver-xorg updates |
| 04:42.46 | widrone | Dwonis: Ill keep inputting silly hw ideas, since you seem to know this step by step. Im getting nice info here too =) |
| 04:42.52 | lordnazgul | hey can someone try to telnet into my smtp server to tell me if it is accessible from outside? witchking.us port 25 |
| 04:42.57 | coagen | it broked my dual monitor setup |
| 04:43.15 | Coweater | coagen: fix it |
| 04:43.29 | Dwonis | widrone: It's a good suggestion, and I don't actually know what's wrong, so that's fine. What I was going to do next was to have him do an lspci, then manually modprobe the drivers until something fails. |
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| 04:43.38 | coagen | Coweater: cant, says nvidia module does not exist :\ |
| 04:43.54 | raden | is serial ATA and SATA diffrent looking for drives on newegg thay have them listed seperatley |
| 04:44.07 | Coweater | oh, nvidia crap, reinstall the driver, you should know this |
| 04:44.07 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis, widrone: I'm back to last step and I ran lspci. Board is definitely Intel. Audio controller: Intel Corp 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/...) |
| 04:44.23 | coagen | Coweater: yeah tried that... |
| 04:44.26 | coagen | Coweater: nothing |
| 04:44.29 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok. what else does lspci output? |
| 04:44.33 | rockstar_ | Can I set nice to run as a user? |
| 04:45.06 | coagen | Coweater: tried uninstalling/reinstalling tried different versions......etc nothing has worked so far. |
| 04:45.12 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I'm particularly interested in USB |
| 04:45.40 | coagen | Coweater: it only happened after the recent update to etch's xserver-xorg and all the other xorg packages |
| 04:45.48 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: by the way, do you have anything connected to your computer via usb? |
| 04:45.51 | BobTheSpeaker | Anyone running DRBD/Heartbeat with Debian, if so you running sarge for both packages (.7-10-4, 1.2.3) at least for heartbeat 1.2.3 is old so I was thinking about going with 2.x series |
| 04:46.00 | rxed | Is there a way to setup postfix with a 'catch all' email account? |
| 04:46.13 | unix_infidel | will there not be a #debian or will there just be a transition t oftc? |
| 04:46.21 | balrog | coagen, did you update gcc after installing etch? |
| 04:46.54 | Coweater | unix_infidel: the only change was to the redirect |
| 04:46.57 | Dwonis | rxed: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html |
| 04:47.12 | Dwonis | rxed: I think |
| 04:47.18 | coagen | balrog: yep, and yes the nvidia module compiled fine with gcc 4 |
| 04:47.23 | balrog | really? |
| 04:47.29 | balrog | =o |
| 04:47.30 | coagen | yeah |
| 04:47.33 | balrog | then i dunno |
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| 04:47.42 | coagen | however |
| 04:47.53 | coagen | there was a package updated |
| 04:48.03 | balrog | try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:48.07 | coagen | gcj i believe |
| 04:48.19 | coagen | or guij or something like that :\ |
| 04:48.25 | coagen | cant remember right now |
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| 04:48.47 | Dwonis | coagen: gcj is the GNU Compiler for Java |
| 04:49.02 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Hmm...It gives me a lot of info: All intel corp until I mention otherwise: 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device; USB Controller #1, #2, and #3 are all : 82801DB/DBL/DBM UHCI controllers; I also see "USB 2.0 EHCI Controller (same model/maker); then PCI Bridge; LPC Interface Controller; Ultra ATA Storage Contrller; AC'97 Audio Controller; Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC Cardbus Controller; then two ethernet controller (Broadcom |
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| 04:49.34 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, try this: modprobe uhci-hcd |
| 04:50.20 | pheonix1984 | Ok, seems to have worked?.. Went through last line = "hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected" |
| 04:50.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, now: modprobe ehci-hcd |
| 04:50.34 | pheonix1984 | I'm back at the shell prompt |
| 04:51.14 | pheonix1984 | dwonis: modprobe ehci-hcd: same as before except 6 ports detected. |
| 04:51.18 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ls /lib/discover/crash |
| 04:51.21 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok |
| 04:51.45 | pheonix1984 | No such file or directory |
| 04:52.13 | Dwonis | ok, unplug all your PCMCIA and USB and other peripheral devices |
| 04:52.51 | pheonix1984 | None plugged in except an Ethernet cord, which I removed hoping it may help somehow |
| 04:53.16 | pheonix1984 | The only two cables that were plugged in were my AC adaptor and an ethernet cable |
| 04:53.34 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, good, now run "grep -i CRASHFILE= /etc/init.d/discover" |
| 04:53.42 | coagen | balrog... tried that :| same |
| 04:54.05 | balrog | did you specify driver nvidia instead of driver nv? |
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| 04:54.15 | coagen | balrog: of course! |
| 04:54.26 | balrog | try glxinfo |
| 04:54.26 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: No error messages after running that command |
| 04:54.38 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: but no output either? |
| 04:54.44 | coagen | balrog command not found |
| 04:54.45 | pheonix1984 | No |
| 04:54.47 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: it should show CRASHFILE=something |
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| 04:54.54 | balrog | then is not installed |
| 04:54.57 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: crap, that must be in a newer version, *of course* |
| 04:55.04 | pheonix1984 | :( |
| 04:55.06 | coagen | balrog: what is not installed? |
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| 04:55.30 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: the crash file (in newer versions of discover) happily gets written so that if your machine crashes, you know what driver caused it. ok, hold on |
| 04:55.56 | pheonix1984 | Np, thanks for the info on what I'm doing, too. :) |
| 04:56.14 | k8to | debian testing is telling me, on x11-common install, that the upgrade is known to be buggy |
| 04:56.23 | k8to | why did this enter testing if it is known to be buggy? |
| 04:56.51 | coagen | k8to, word I've had the same problem and now my nvidia driver doesnt work at all |
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| 04:57.18 | k8to | testing will encounter some bugs, okay |
| 04:57.22 | k8to | i accept this |
| 04:57.31 | Pegger | can somewone tell me what is worng with this cron command " 0 0 * * * smartctl -t long /dev/hde " |
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| 04:57.33 | k8to | but I believe the policy is that known buggy packages do not enter testing |
| 04:57.46 | Dan39 | its just... not loading the sound card on boot, just not |
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| 04:58.04 | chron | how do you load services in slackware |
| 04:58.08 | chron | at start up |
| 04:58.19 | chron | what must i edit or set |
| 04:58.26 | Dan39 | how bout u go over to a slackware channel |
| 04:58.29 | Dan39 | this is DEBIAN |
| 04:58.46 | coagen | chron: /join #slackware |
| 04:58.50 | chron | oh woops |
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| 04:58.52 | chron | lmao wrong chan |
| 04:58.54 | Pegger | what is wrong with my cron ??? 0 0 * * * smartctl -t long /dev/hde |
| 04:58.57 | Dan39 | wrong server |
| 04:59.04 | inetd | is gnome broken in unstable at the momoment? |
| 04:59.06 | chron | ok on debian, how would i upgrade all packages? |
| 04:59.23 | Dan39 | dunno |
| 04:59.26 | karsten | chron: man aptitude |
| 04:59.26 | coagen | chron aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 04:59.27 | Pegger | character, you are kidding right |
| 04:59.31 | peterS | chron: aptitude update ; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 04:59.48 | karsten | Pegger: user crontab or /etc/crontab? |
| 04:59.52 | chron | thx |
| 05:00.01 | Pegger | karma, crontab -e |
| 05:00.04 | karsten | Pegger: You need to specify user. 0 0 * * * <user> <cmd> |
| 05:00.19 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, run this: discover --module all | sort | uniq |
| 05:00.21 | karsten | Pegger: ... for /etc/crontab. Not for user crontab. |
| 05:00.25 | coagen | so what package contains glxinfo? |
| 05:00.28 | Dan39 | how i get into all the setting shizz for debian? |
| 05:00.29 | karsten | Pegger: ... and what is / isn't happening? |
| 05:00.34 | karsten | !tell coagen about search |
| 05:00.36 | Pegger | karma, none of my other cron tabs specify user and work just fine like 0 2 * * * rsync -avz /home/ /backups/home/ |
| 05:00.52 | karsten | Dan39: find /etc -type f | xargs less |
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| 05:01.19 | k8to | karsten: oh dear |
| 05:01.24 | Dan39 | haha |
| 05:01.28 | Pegger | so then why does is work 0 2 * * * rsync -avz /home/ /backups/home/ |
| 05:01.29 | Pegger | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.31 | karsten | k8to: Ask a stupid question ... |
| 05:01.36 | Dwonis | karsten: I don't think that does what you think it does |
| 05:01.37 | karsten | Dan39: Try asking a sensible question. |
| 05:01.43 | Dan39 | ha |
| 05:01.52 | karsten | Dwonis: I do believe it does. |
| 05:01.52 | coagen | karsten: tard... I already searched apt-cache |
| 05:02.01 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Ok; "b44, ehci-hcd, i810_audio, piix, usb-uhci, yenta_socket" One per line and then back to the shell prompt |
| 05:02.04 | Dan39 | i wasnt really expecting an answer |
| 05:02.09 | k8to | Dwonis: i think it does exactly what karsten thinks it does |
| 05:02.16 | karsten | coagen: Feel free to insult the helpful and clueful. |
| 05:02.17 | k8to | Dwonis: is there a trick? |
| 05:02.24 | Pegger | cogen apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 05:02.26 | Dwonis | k8to: where does less get its user input? |
| 05:02.44 | chump | Hey how would i use the ISO's to do an NFS for installing from a remote source |
| 05:02.52 | karsten | coagen: You might try apt-file |
| 05:02.57 | Dwonis | k8to: oh, hey! it *does* work |
| 05:03.04 | karsten | coagen: ... or auto-apt, which is actually faster. |
| 05:03.10 | Dwonis | k8to: doesn't work with vim |
| 05:03.10 | k8to | Dwonis: i assume xargs does not cause the run command to inherit the pipe as input |
| 05:03.19 | k8to | Dwonis: because uh, that would probably not work |
| 05:03.19 | Pegger | chump, that is not simple at at short answer, nfs, dhcp, tftp |
| 05:03.23 | AgentSmoulder | HI folks, I need to pre install the ndiswrapper module, but no luck so far. I know about update-modules and I've made the file ndiswrapper. |
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| 05:03.30 | Dwonis | k8to: I don't think it's xargs, I think it's just that less knows about ttys |
| 05:03.39 | coagen | karsten: ok... mr clueful, could you tell me why my nvidia driver is broken in the latest version of x11-common |
| 05:03.50 | k8to | Dwonis: possible, although i would find that disappointing |
| 05:03.50 | karsten | coagen: apt-cache only has package *description* info, apt-file / auto-apt have *all* files installed by packages (but not those created by scripts, say). |
| 05:04.04 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, now, we're going to try to figure out which one of those crashes |
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| 05:04.05 | karsten | coagen: NFC. /msg dpkg nvidia. I use supported, open hardware m'self. |
| 05:04.23 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I'm ready :) |
| 05:04.25 | Pegger | so then why does is work 0 2 * * * rsync -avz /home/ /backups/home/ and not 0 0 * * * smartctl -t short /dev/hde what am I doing worong |
| 05:04.29 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: so: modprobe i810_audio |
| 05:04.41 | k8to | guh |
| 05:04.45 | k8to | this xorg upgrade is NOT IMPRESSIVE |
| 05:04.56 | k8to | instead of taking the normal configuration file update procedure |
| 05:05.06 | Dwonis | "Don't mess with X or X will mess with you!" |
| 05:05.08 | coagen | karsten: but can you play rrootage in software mode... I think not! |
| 05:05.12 | k8to | it does some random stuff and spews notes which might get lost in scrollback |
| 05:05.15 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: First try? :) It gave a Seg Faul as the last line and sent me back to the shell prompt |
| 05:05.21 | Dan39 | o well here it goes |
| 05:05.21 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: there you go |
| 05:05.35 | karsten | Pegger: What user is trying to do that? |
| 05:05.40 | karsten | Pegger: smartctl needs root |
| 05:05.42 | Dan39 | nothing at all.... |
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| 05:05.56 | Cara_Legal | alguem do BRASIL? |
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| 05:06.04 | karsten | Pegger: Personally, I'd drop that in /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 05:06.05 | karsten | !br |
| 05:06.06 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 05:06.10 | Pegger | karsten, I am logged as the root user and doing crontab -e |
| 05:06.14 | sanmarcos | bah this oftc move seems so stupid |
| 05:06.19 | sanmarcos | now we have to have two irc servers open |
| 05:06.19 | inetd | 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 |
| 05:06.22 | karsten | Pegger: Don't put stuff in root's user crontab. |
| 05:06.25 | karsten | !ops inetd |
| 05:06.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: karsten complains about: inetd |
| 05:06.27 | inetd | soz |
| 05:06.38 | Pegger | karsten, this is the error I get /bin/sh: line 1: smartctl: command not found |
| 05:06.40 | widrone | inetd: Cat stepping on your kbd? |
| 05:06.47 | stoned | wtf |
| 05:06.52 | Pegger | karsten, then where do I put stuff that needs to be run by root |
| 05:06.54 | karsten | Pegger: Sounds like a path problem. |
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| 05:07.03 | inetd | widrone: hehe..no..bloody KVM switch |
| 05:07.05 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: echo "skip i810_audio" >> /etc/discover.d/local |
| 05:07.08 | stoned | god bless /clear |
| 05:07.17 | Dan39 | !kbd |
| 05:07.17 | dpkg | well, kbd is at (Keytable files and keyboard utilities) or broken. |
| 05:07.18 | karsten | Pegger: /etc/crontab or, by preference: /etc/cron.d/ /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} |
| 05:07.19 | stoned | eye cancer I swear to god |
| 05:07.20 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ("local" is just a name I made up, but that probably won't conflict with anything else) |
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| 05:07.27 | Pegger | karsten, so try putting in the whole path? |
| 05:07.28 | Dan39 | =\ |
| 05:07.45 | karsten | Pegger: You can set environment in crontab. PATH = <PATHSPEC> will do that. man 5 cron. |
| 05:07.50 | karsten | s/cron/crontab |
| 05:07.59 | Dan39 | im out for tonight |
| 05:08.00 | Dan39 | have fun |
| 05:08.19 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: actually, it probably would have been better to edit /etc/discover.conf, but whatever |
| 05:08.43 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: once you've done that, run "sync" |
| 05:08.44 | inetd | guys, do you know if gnome is broken in sid? |
| 05:08.51 | inetd | s/if/is/ |
| 05:08.57 | widrone | !beer dwonis |
| 05:09.06 | Dwonis | widrone: thanks |
| 05:09.21 | karsten | Pegger: You *are* aware that installing smartmontools installs smartd which automatically makes scheduled runs for you? |
| 05:09.23 | Dwonis | widrone: though I'm not responsible for what happens to pheonix1984's machine after I have this beer |
| 05:09.51 | k8to | GUH |
| 05:09.57 | Pegger | karsten, well in the linux journal they suggested puttting this crontab in |
| 05:09.59 | k8to | the news file says: we disable speedo and glcore |
| 05:10.02 | k8to | but it doesn't say WHY |
| 05:10.10 | karsten | Pegger: Check your distro's package docs over LJ. |
| 05:10.17 | k8to | i rate this upgrade process 1.8 on a scale from 1 to 10 |
| 05:10.46 | Pegger | karsten, you use smart right? |
| 05:10.51 | karsten | Pegger: Yeppers. |
| 05:11.16 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I've done the echo command and the sync command, no ouput from either. Next? (reboot?) |
| 05:11.19 | karsten | Pegger: Have to admit I've been a bit lax in actually checking what it tells me ;-) |
| 05:11.22 | Pegger | karsten, has smart ever reported a filed disk to you before it started becoming unresponsive |
| 05:11.27 | karsten | Pegger: Yes. |
| 05:11.28 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: yes, but let's try something first |
| 05:11.33 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: rmmod i810_audio |
| 05:11.34 | Pegger | just one? |
| 05:11.41 | karsten | Pegger: Though my last bad drive snuck up on me. |
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| 05:11.51 | Pegger | karma, not good |
| 05:12.04 | Pegger | karsten, but smart still detected it |
| 05:12.06 | karsten | Pegger: It helped confirm a bad disk. I've had another disk which failed but created other log messages over time. |
| 05:12.17 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: actually nevermind, yeah, just reboot. :) |
| 05:12.22 | Pegger | karsten, other? |
| 05:12.27 | karsten | Pegger: Actually, I don't know. It rattles something aweful on startup and I'd actually like to peal some data off of it. |
| 05:12.38 | pheonix1984 | "ERROR: Module i810_audio does not exist in /proc/modules" |
| 05:12.46 | karsten | Pegger: The one which failed over time wasn't SMART capable. |
| 05:12.53 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: oops, nvm, missed your last message |
| 05:13.03 | pheonix1984 | rebooting now |
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| 05:13.40 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: If you're lucky, it'll boot, but you won't have sound support. |
| 05:14.02 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: If you're more lucky, you'll be able to switch to ALSA, and it'll work :) |
| 05:14.04 | karsten | Pegger: My understanding is that Debian's smartmontools runs at least a daily short test and at least a weekly long one. I'm trying to sort out the mechanism now. |
| 05:14.09 | peterS | k8to: speedo is a really old font technology that I don't think many fonts were actually using anyway |
| 05:14.20 | k8to | i believe that |
| 05:14.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: the "echo" line I *think* makes it so that the module doesn't get loaded automatically |
| 05:14.31 | peterS | I don't know what's going on with glcore and opengl |
| 05:14.33 | karsten | k8to: peterS is a font of wisdom ... |
| 05:14.37 | widrone | Dwonis: No chance that some alsa stuff will take over later in the boot, loading its own modules. Just asking since I really dont know. |
| 05:14.50 | karsten | peterS: That probably depends on SGI's bankrupcy proceedings. |
| 05:14.51 | k8to | I also believe that having a news file where they tell you what is changed, but fail to give any rationale is not fulfilling its role |
| 05:14.52 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: :( I'm unlucky. No boot. "i810_audio: can't be loaded" Seg fault line 156 of ./pci.agent |
| 05:14.59 | karsten | hrm... |
| 05:15.07 | karsten | Don't take that wrong, guys'n'gals. |
| 05:15.11 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ok, so it looks like my blacklist command didn't actually do what I thought it would |
| 05:15.19 | k8to | i've had a significant number of mysteries in this upgrade that I've only solved by digging around in mailing lists |
| 05:15.31 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: The echo command did do something, I'm getting a different error :| Not sure if this is good or bad. |
| 05:15.38 | karsten | eddiecheng: Still around? I'm k-god in another life. |
| 05:15.51 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ah, you're right. It did what I wanted, but there are other problems |
| 05:16.03 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: interesting. ok, fun... init=/bin/sh et al. again |
| 05:16.09 | peterS | k8to: there's a fine line between "there is something you're not telling us" and "why on earth would users _care_ which font rendering technologies from the mid-80s are no longer supported?" |
| 05:16.16 | stoned | hehe, I saw recently the monty python skit about philosophers from different parts of the wold playing europeon football. No one kicks the ball, they are all too busy thinking about kicking the ball. |
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| 05:16.36 | k8to | peterS: i'd expect bug numbers |
| 05:16.36 | stoned | I can't remember how I related that to #debian, but I'll remember later and tell you |
| 05:16.43 | k8to | peterS: which i could go look up |
| 05:17.00 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: heh, on my way. |
| 05:17.20 | peterS | k8to: chances are, this is driven by upstream, so relevant debian bugs may or may not exist |
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| 05:17.50 | k8to | peterS: in this case, the mailing lists make it highly unclear if it's unpstream problem, in 6.9 they had hacky patches to prevent them from being loaded |
| 05:18.12 | karsten | stoned: On that topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6TmNVjG2w&search=streaker |
| 05:18.15 | karsten | NSFW |
| 05:18.46 | k8to | peterS: and it wouldn't matter so much if they didn't put up a big scare notice that says "we know this upgrade is buggy" and then proceed to edit the configfile in an unusual way so that I'm being encouraged to dig into the changes |
| 05:18.50 | peterS | k8to: I daresay the percentage of users who have _any_ idea what the 'speedo' module actually did is quite low. the only reason to document this particular upstream change is that it affects your xorg.conf file. if it didn't, I doubt david would have mentioned it at all |
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| 05:19.32 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I'm back :) |
| 05:19.33 | stoned | karsten, holy hell, thats real? hmm.. shes hot |
| 05:19.47 | k8to | peterS: step 1) knowingly put buggy package into testing, step 2) encourage users to review changes, step 3) provide no easily locatable information on changes |
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| 05:20.48 | k8to | i know speedo is an old font thing that I probably never used, but the cavalier and sloppy approach is unimpressive. glcore is something that I have no idea if i use. Certainly once upon a time I used it |
| 05:21.05 | karsten | stoned: Apparently a Nike ad. |
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| 05:21.30 | karsten | stoned: ... but innt she just? |
| 05:21.30 | widrone | speedo makes me think of buff men (with shiny oil) and small underwear... |
| 05:21.35 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Still here? |
| 05:21.35 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: modprobe yenta_socket |
| 05:21.35 | stoned | indeed |
| 05:21.43 | k8to | widrone: hot! |
| 05:21.53 | stoned | oh thing I would do to her, totally inappropriate for #debian |
| 05:21.58 | stoned | the things* |
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| 05:22.09 | karsten | stoned: thing ;-) |
| 05:22.14 | stoned | lol |
| 05:22.20 | stoned | this keyboard sucks man, I need a new one |
| 05:22.30 | Dwonis | stoned: what you mean by that depends upon which team you were cheering for... |
| 05:22.31 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Socket Status: 30000007 Seems to have worked. |
| 05:22.37 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: modprobe b44 |
| 05:22.54 | pheonix1984 | Worked, Broadcom 4400 |
| 05:22.59 | peterS | k8to: if you don't like it, perhaps you've got better ideas on how to manage a package and a transition this large. however, a quick search of the debian lists doesn't show that you've ever posted to debian-x |
| 05:22.59 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: modprobe piix |
| 05:23.15 | pheonix1984 | No output |
| 05:23.31 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm... modprobe ehci-hcd |
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| 05:23.36 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: modprobe uhci-hcd |
| 05:23.46 | k8to | peterS: the old "if you aren't an expert than you are unqualified to comment" fallacy |
| 05:23.53 | k8to | yawn |
| 05:23.57 | pheonix1984 | Both worked |
| 05:24.04 | peterS | k8to: no no, it's the old "if you aren't contributing you have very limited grounds to complain" |
| 05:24.12 | k8to | it's criticism |
| 05:24.17 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: hmm... /etc/init.d/discover start |
| 05:24.19 | jose | hi..thanks for help. Is is possible to use LDAP Authentication in Jooma 1.0.8 ?. Just a good link please. I visited #joomla but no answers so I came here. |
| 05:24.24 | k8to | it's valid criticism. it's not FOR ME |
| 05:24.40 | k8to | the sloppy approach affects all users |
| 05:24.53 | peterS | k8to: or perhaps I should word it as "if there is no evidence that you have ever attempted a job as large and complicated as what david recently did, your opinions on what he should have done better must be taken with a grain of salt" |
| 05:24.56 | k8to | if you don't care, whatever |
| 05:24.57 | Dwonis | k8to: X has always been a pain to package, and transitions have usually been a mess. hopefully the new more-modular X build system will put an end to that |
| 05:25.07 | k8to | Dwonis: i certainly hope so |
| 05:25.35 | stoned | peterS, just throwing it out there, dont mind me, but... if something is free, it is implied that people will use that product, and people being people, they will bitch and moan regardless of wether they have any grounds or not |
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| 05:25.44 | widrone | pheonix1984: Dwonis : There seems to be others in theese dire straits too http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=298623 |
| 05:25.46 | k8to | peterS: perhaps many things were done well etc, but that doesn't change the fact that a package which explicitly claims to be buggy got pushed to testing anyway |
| 05:25.57 | peterS | k8to: also, do you have any idea how many things about xorg transitions *could* be documented and shown to users, and how many users would drown in the resulting mass of detail they don't care about? your preferred level of documentation isn't everyone's |
| 05:26.00 | pheonix1984 | Ok, started discover: Detected all that we just modprobed plus the i810_audio. "Skipping already loaded module (yenta, b44, piix)" i810_audio disable, uhci_hcd, and ehci_hcd also disabled |
| 05:26.14 | stoned | its too bad, people shouldn't do that |
| 05:26.16 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: did it hang or did it start? |
| 05:26.26 | valdyn | k8to: packages dont reach testing with rc bugs |
| 05:26.30 | k8to | again, i accept that documentation level is a tricky thing to handle, but when specific problems exist, they are supposed to enter the debian bug tracking system |
| 05:26.35 | pheonix1984 | Started, not hung up |
| 05:26.39 | valdyn | k8to: i wouldnt know what there's an exception for xorg7 |
| 05:26.46 | k8to | many of these issues did not enter the bug tracking system |
| 05:26.47 | peterS | k8to: yes, the harm in moving it to testing is greatly outweighed by the benefit. it's quite a special case in release management, which it's hard to appreciate without looking at how the debian archive scripts work in practice |
| 05:26.57 | valdyn | k8to: go report bugs then |
| 05:26.58 | widrone | Dwonis: Short version seems to be blacklisting the whole driver and relying on alsa. But I think most workaraounds are 2.6 based. |
| 05:27.07 | pheonix1984 | widrone: Seems the HW is very similar to mine :| |
| 05:27.24 | k8to | valdyn: that is a constructive action, but it does not really negate the explicit avoidance of the bts already accomplished |
| 05:27.30 | Dwonis | ah "black in both discover and hotplug" |
| 05:27.43 | Dwonis | widrone: we only did discover |
| 05:27.44 | k8to | whatever, if you just want to pretend the criticism is invalid, then I have nothing further to say |
| 05:27.47 | peterS | k8to: as far as harm to users, failure to give verbose reasons for dropping support for certain loader modules hardly qualifies. do you have _real_ bugs to report, or just that? |
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| 05:27.56 | pheonix1984 | so echo ..? |
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| 05:28.01 | Dwonis | widrone: do you know how to blacklist modules in hotplug? I don't have a hotplug install right now |
| 05:28.02 | valdyn | k8to: migration to testing is an automated system, there's no 'ignoring' of things |
| 05:28.16 | widrone | Dwonis: Negative on the hotplug. |
| 05:28.39 | peterS | valdyn: yes there is, actually |
| 05:28.52 | valdyn | peterS: how? |
| 05:29.01 | peterS | valdyn: release managers can override certain checks |
| 05:29.24 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I *think*: echo i810_audio >> /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 05:29.25 | valdyn | peterS: yea, good point, was that done for Xorg7 though? |
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| 05:29.35 | peterS | don't know, but it could have been |
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| 05:29.55 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: I'm willing to try it. |
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| 05:30.07 | widrone | !blacklist |
| 05:30.08 | dpkg | i heard blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 05:30.24 | chump | can any one link me to a tutorial on how to set up ISO on an NFS for installing over network? |
| 05:30.53 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ^^^ note that if/when you switch to etch or sid, you'll have to add the appropriate blacklisting line to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, I guess |
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| 05:31.14 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: although I think if you install ALSA properly, it'll do the blacklisting for you |
| 05:31.17 | pheonix1984 | Any reason that I'll want to switch to etch or sid? |
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| 05:31.36 | valdyn | pheonix1984: if you dont know one, there isnt one |
| 05:31.37 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: well, when etch becomes stable you probably will |
| 05:32.10 | pheonix1984 | lol. Ok. Well, when the time comes I'll cross that bridge, eh? |
| 05:32.11 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: just keep in the back of your mind that you want to upgrade to ALSA sometime... but you should do that *after* you get the machine to boot in the first place :) |
| 05:32.32 | pheonix1984 | Yea, I was thinking I might want to be able to have sound :P |
| 05:32.38 | valdyn | pheonix1984: right now seems to be a bad time to do sarge->etch too, seeing how people complain how xorg7 is breaking, but im trying this myself right now anyway |
| 05:32.48 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: anyway, once you've done that, run sync and reboot |
| 05:32.48 | pheonix1984 | Reboot now or anything else first? |
| 05:33.10 | pheonix1984 | Ah, sync, ty |
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| 05:33.33 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: technically you don't need sync if you're rebooting properly |
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| 05:33.42 | valdyn | pheonix1984: shutdown -r now |
| 05:33.48 | Dwonis | valdyn: won't work |
| 05:33.53 | Dwonis | valdyn: he has init=/bin/sh |
| 05:33.54 | valdyn | Dwonis: ops |
| 05:33.59 | pheonix1984 | Definitly not rebooting properly. Tried both shutdown -r now and reboot....neither work. |
| 05:34.00 | valdyn | Dwonis: i see |
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| 05:34.40 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: "shutdown -r now" sends a signal to the regular init process, which we've replaced with /bin/sh |
| 05:35.04 | pheonix1984 | Ah |
| 05:35.14 | pheonix1984 | Makes sense. |
| 05:35.15 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I *think* "reboot -f" works |
| 05:35.40 | pheonix1984 | Ok...Looking good btw...It's welcoming me to my new Debian system :) |
| 05:36.07 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: heh. good to hear |
| 05:36.23 | konfuzed | well then im glad i did not bother with an upgrade and simply installed fresh to avoid hassle issues |
| 05:37.43 | pheonix1984 | Looking very good, I've been able to setup passwd, initial user, etc... currently scanning disc for index files |
| 05:38.02 | pheonix1984 | Network not yet up, but I'm thinking that might be easier to solve |
| 05:38.48 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis, widrone, valdyn: Thank you all very much. I truly appreciate all of your help. |
| 05:38.55 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: no problem :) |
| 05:39.33 | sanmarcos | THE SERVICES |
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| 05:39.50 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I liked not having to bang my head on the table, because it looks like you actually read what I wrote, and had some idea as to how to tell what's relevant and what isn't |
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| 05:41.04 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: however, I think phoenix is spelled "phoenix" |
| 05:41.17 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ;) |
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| 05:41.34 | halibut | how can I download a package on one pc and install it on another? |
| 05:41.55 | Vasistha | @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.3-20050121) |
| 05:41.55 | Vasistha | & pheonix 15 0: Phoenix, phoenix, phonics, phonic, Phoenix's, phoenix's, phoenixes, phonies, phenols, phenoms, phlox, phones, phonics's, phone's, phenol's |
| 05:42.03 | Vasistha | Dwonis: yup |
| 05:42.17 | Dwonis | halibut: http://packages.debian.org/, or apt-get -d install the_package_name, and then copy the .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 05:42.46 | Dwonis | halibut: there's also apparently the apt-zip, although I don't know if that's still around |
| 05:42.59 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Heh...Aye...I've used linux distros before (gentoo, redhat, ubuntu, and SuSe), but I have never had any problems this serious and it has been about 2.5 yrs since I really sat down at a linux box :\ However, as I do work as a Network Junior Engineer/PC Tech Support I do understand the importance of following directions. Windows I can handle, but Linux is so much more involved; which I like. |
| 05:43.49 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I like *nix from a tech-support perspective. I can tell people the exact command to type, not "click on here, and then click here, and scroll..." |
| 05:43.59 | pheonix1984 | lol. As to my spelling of "pheonix," I do know that it is wrong. I've been using the misspelled pheonix alias for quite some time so I've never bothered correcting myself :P |
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| 05:47.10 | pheonix1984 | Dwonis: Yea; I understand what you mean. I get ahead of myself when I take the occasional phone support call. Very annoying that you have to step some people through everything from "Start>run>cmd>ipconfig /all" etc. I honestly hate trying to help some ppl with pc issues; I've actually had callers complain to me that the network isn't working and my first question, Is the network cable plugged in? solve their problem. It's very fr |
| 05:47.46 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: your message got cut off after "It's very f" |
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| 05:48.11 | pheonix1984 | Anyway; I do appreciate all of your help. I know it wasn't exactly fun. |
| 05:48.20 | pheonix1984 | Ah, frustrating* |
| 05:49.24 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: I did tech support a few years ago for a webhosting company. I never really minded so much having to ask people whether their network cables were plugged in. It was when they would *lie* to me that really got me annoyed. |
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| 05:49.44 | Vasistha | pheonix1984: you know... I actually made such a stupid mistake once, I was struggling for over an hour trying to get this router to work -- and I'd set the thing up a dozen times before without any trouble at all... |
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| 05:49.51 | widrone | pheonix1984: I just realised im running on a laptop with the i810_audio loaded here. Doesnt screw up this dell atleast. |
| 05:50.23 | halibut | hmm, for some reason the packages.debian.org site is segfaulting firefox, mozilla and konq for me |
| 05:50.23 | widrone | pheonix1984: So Im guessing it just happens in some special hardware combinations or something. |
| 05:50.24 | Vasistha | pheonix1984: I called linksys, and this woman asked me if such-and-such cable was plugged in here, and I'll be damned if I didn't have the cables mixed up |
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| 05:51.21 | Vasistha | halibut: http://packages.debian.org/ or some child of it? |
| 05:51.22 | Dwonis | Vasistha: I have a somewhat flaky 8-port ethernet switch under my desk. One day, the link between my desktop and my router (also a Debian machine) wasn't working, although the network connection lights were on. |
| 05:51.43 | halibut | Vasistha, that url |
| 05:52.05 | pheonix1984 | Vasistha: lol. It happens; it just gets frustrating over time when half of your user's complaints are resolved by " is it plugged in? " |
| 05:52.06 | Dwonis | Vasistha: I figured I had probably crushed the cable, as it runs under a carpet. So, I was about to replace it |
| 05:52.17 | pheonix1984 | widrone: lol, lucky you? :) |
| 05:52.29 | Dwonis | Vasistha: when suddenly I realized that the cable going into my router was gray, and the cable going into my desktop was white |
| 05:52.38 | Dwonis | Vasistha: reset the stupid switch, and everything worked |
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| 05:53.02 | Dwonis | Vasistha: didn't call tech support, though |
| 05:53.04 | Vasistha | Dwonis: hehe ... yeah, one of *those* moments. We all need sanity checks, this is why they say two heads are better than one |
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| 05:53.29 | pheonix1984 | widrone: eMachines just aren't built for Linux I guess. I think I do remember having some sort of issue with installing Ubuntu before; I think I did resolve it somehow though. |
| 05:53.29 | Vasistha | halibut: hrm, no problem in opera... now for firefox... |
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| 05:53.39 | Dwonis | halibut: Firefox and Mozilla, I could see, because they have the same rendering engine |
| 05:53.49 | Dwonis | halibut: but Konqueror uses a different rendering engine |
| 05:53.56 | widrone | pheonix1984: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) in my case, maybe a slitly different model of the chip. |
| 05:54.02 | Dwonis | halibut: so unless it's zlib or libpng or something, it could be a hardware problem |
| 05:54.04 | halibut | Dwonis, oops, sorry you are right, konq is just loading up FF when I enter something in to the address bar |
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| 05:54.54 | Dwonis | halibut: do you have any Firefox extensions installed that might be causing the problem? |
| 05:55.01 | Vasistha | halibut: works fine in my firefox ... I'm on sarge, though, dunno what your situation it |
| 05:55.01 | Dwonis | halibut: or themes? |
| 05:55.35 | Dwonis | halibut: works find for me with firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-2 |
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| 05:55.42 | Dwonis | halibut: and a whole pile of extensions |
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| 05:56.15 | Dwonis | halibut: really, I don't think there's anything at p.d.o that should break anything (unlike sites that have Flash or wmv files or something) |
| 05:56.30 | Dwonis | halibut: did you just upgrade X or a fonts package or libc or something? |
| 05:56.48 | pheonix1984 | widrone: That is the same according to an lspci I just ran |
| 05:57.51 | widrone | pheonix1984: Ohwell thats the excitement of laptops for you. =) |
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| 05:58.16 | halibut | Dwonis, nope |
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| 05:58.35 | halibut | havnt touched this PC in ages and have loaded that page on it in the past |
| 05:58.54 | halibut | I thought it might be an extension issue but mozilla is doing the same |
| 05:58.54 | pheonix1984 | widrone: lol. All-in-all, it definitely wasn't a waste. I've learned a couple useful things and now have debian running. |
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| 05:59.00 | Arfim | hi, does anybody know whether xen supports windows? Or it's just a privelege of xen enterprise? |
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| 05:59.16 | Dwonis | halibut: how do you know that it's segfaulting? Have you run it from the command line and seen the words "Segmentation Fault", or are you *assuming* it's a segfault? |
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| 06:00.48 | widrone | Arfim: That is so not debian related, but did you google that at all? |
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| 06:01.40 | Arfim | widrone: yes :-(. most pages say that this is NOT possible. xen's website says nothing about windows on plain xen but says that windows is runnable on xen enterprise |
| 06:01.50 | widrone | Arfim: Short answer is its possible, win4lin had a pressrelease on something 7 weeks ago. |
| 06:02.06 | Arfim | i ask that on the debbie channel just because i like the channel :-) |
| 06:02.06 | Dwonis | widrone: what does win4lin have to do with xen? |
| 06:03.02 | pheonix1984 | I'm off to bed. XFree86, my net config, and a few other things will have to wait till the morning. Thank you all, once again, for all of the help and time that you put into my problem. |
| 06:03.10 | pheonix1984 | Goodnight all. |
| 06:03.17 | Dwonis | pheonix1984: ciao |
| 06:03.20 | widrone | Dwonis: Not a whole lot, except they announced something I remembered and felt like pointing in the direction. They will probably make you pay thu. |
| 06:03.25 | Arfim | win4lin? some sort of virtual hardware simulator like vmware? |
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| 06:03.32 | Dwonis | Arfim: yup |
| 06:03.43 | Dwonis | Arfim: well, I think it's lighter-weight than vmware |
| 06:03.50 | Dwonis | Arfim: but I don't think it uses Xen or anything like that |
| 06:04.01 | Arfim | i could run vmware gsx on debbie but gsx performance sucks (sorry) |
| 06:04.44 | halibut | Dwonis, from console |
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| 06:05.06 | halibut | http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.7/ |
| 06:05.09 | halibut | oops |
| 06:05.15 | halibut | matt@3[~]$ mozilla |
| 06:05.16 | halibut | Segmentation fault |
| 06:05.18 | Arfim | my opinion is that xen isthe performance leader |
| 06:05.42 | Dwonis | halibut: is this a Debian box? |
| 06:05.49 | halibut | it's no problem, other than me being curious, I never use PC |
| 06:06.31 | Dwonis | Arfim: xen is great for performance... if you can use it |
| 06:06.37 | Dwonis | Arfim: beats the pants off of user-mode-linux |
| 06:06.44 | halibut | I gotta shut down to switch power cable to another PC |
| 06:06.46 | halibut | cya |
| 06:06.48 | Dwonis | Arfim: but I've never tried to run Windows with it |
| 06:07.15 | Arfim | dwonis: i'm thinking of running xen with something like wine to let it start windows apps |
| 06:07.25 | Dwonis | Arfim: one thing's for sure, however, xen *won't* run Windows except on newer Intel chips that have "VT" technology or something like that |
| 06:07.27 | Arfim | ...in the case it doesn't support windows directly |
| 06:08.11 | Dwonis | Arfim: eh? Xen is a kernel, basically... it runs *below* Linux, not on top |
| 06:08.27 | Arfim | dwonis: lol :-). my cpu isn't museum's exponate yet but it's too far from vt support |
| 06:09.02 | Arfim | dwonis: i meant starting wine + windows app in the "guest" copies of xen |
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| 06:09.04 | Dwonis | Arfim: part of the reason why Xen is so fast is that it doesn't do all the crap that VMware has to do in order to virtualize certain instructions |
| 06:09.24 | Dwonis | Arfim: why not just run wine directly on Linux? |
| 06:11.05 | Arfim | dwonis: imagine the following: you live in the country where you are not allowed to run p2p net client. you got a server somewhere else and built a vpn tunnel. now you've some additional network interface in your os, say "tap0". how would you tell an application like wine that it should use tap0 as an interface for all network requests |
| 06:11.30 | Dwonis | Arfim: ah... good idea |
| 06:12.00 | Dwonis | Arfim: however, keep in mind that most p2p traffic can be detected by traffic analysis, not actually looking at the content of packets |
| 06:12.18 | Arfim | dwonis: no no, i use openvpn to encrypt it :-) |
| 06:12.24 | Dwonis | Arfim: so? |
| 06:12.31 | Dwonis | Arfim: do you know what traffic analysis is? |
| 06:12.39 | Arfim | dwonis: of course :-) |
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| 06:13.14 | Dwonis | Arfim: is this a country where crypto is restricted domestically? |
| 06:13.23 | Arfim | dwonis: when my isp would sniff my traffic, they'll see nothing else than udp packets flying between my compo and server |
| 06:14.06 | Arfim | dwonis: no, europe. everytime you download something, say a movie or music, you can get tracked. |
| 06:14.28 | Dwonis | Arfim: what about IRC traffic? |
| 06:15.00 | Dwonis | Arfim: "Arfim (i=IDENTREP@c159120.adsl.hansenet.de) has joined #debian" and such |
| 06:15.13 | Arfim | dwonis: as far as i know some p2p monitoring organizations can trace emule, winmx and irc too |
| 06:15.28 | Arfim | they seek for dcc traffic |
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| 06:15.59 | Dwonis | Arfim: but yeah, I see what you're saying |
| 06:16.00 | evi|one | Hello. What is the correct place to set up some firewall rules? |
| 06:16.03 | Dwonis | Arfim: you might try selinux? |
| 06:16.30 | Dwonis | Arfim: or, I know that vmware workstation uses (by default) 2 different network interfaces (vmnet8 and vmnet1) |
| 06:16.32 | Arfim | dwonis: what selinux is capable of |
| 06:16.40 | Dwonis | Arfim: I dunno, a whole bunch of stuff |
| 06:16.59 | Arfim | dwonis: i wished to go away from vmware. it's performance sucks really |
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| 06:17.15 | Arfim | dwonis: disk transfers sucks at most. |
| 06:17.17 | Dwonis | Arfim: it's not so bad if you have gobs of memory |
| 06:17.29 | Dwonis | Arfim: and/or you put swap on a separate physical disk |
| 06:17.31 | Arfim | dwonis: i've 4gb |
| 06:17.33 | peterS | lots of things aren't so bad if you have gobs of memory |
| 06:17.39 | peterS | that doesn't make them not so bad in general (: |
| 06:18.16 | Dwonis | peterS: indeed. Especially when your Compaq BIOS refuses to boot because > 512 MiB of RAM is "not supported" |
| 06:18.20 | Arfim | dwonis: i'm trying to get off from vmgsx. just because of interest now |
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| 06:18.56 | Dwonis | Arfim: I remember that the old win4lin versions (the ones that only could run Win9x) performed quite well. I haven't tried Win4Lin Pro |
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| 06:19.29 | Dwonis | Arfim: but if your apps run in wine, then I'd more look toward SELinux, or even, as you suggest, wine inside a Xen box |
| 06:19.31 | Arfim | dwonis: i'm going to play with iptables/iproute2, may be it's possible to bind a pid to network iface |
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| 06:19.48 | Dwonis | Arfim: it might be, but I'd do it by *user* |
| 06:19.59 | Dwonis | Arfim: since I'm pretty sure wine uses fork() |
| 06:20.05 | dado[1] | why can't I connect to mysql server on a remote debian host I edited /etc/my.cnf commented the bind-address = 127.0.0.1 but still can't connect make a remote connection |
| 06:20.22 | Arfim | dwonis: thanks a lot for the tip |
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| 06:21.14 | Arfim | dado[1]: what exactly did you edit in my.cnf? my.cnf configures your local mysl server and some "basic" properties for mysql client |
| 06:22.29 | dado[1] | just one line they use bind-address instead of skip-networking in mysql5 so I removed that line |
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| 06:23.09 | Arfim | dado[1]: and you try to connect to this mysql server from remote compie? |
| 06:23.17 | Dwonis | dado[1]: if you try to telnet to the mysql port (remotely) does the connection establish? |
| 06:24.05 | Arfim | dado[1]: didn't you forget to restart mysqld after changing my.cnf? |
| 06:24.05 | dado[1] | <Dwonis> did not try that yet, |
| 06:24.05 | Arfim | dado[1]: try: telnet ip_of_mysql_server 3306 |
| 06:24.19 | dado[1] | <Arfim> its been restarted, I'll try telneting |
| 06:24.28 | Arfim | dado[1]: try |
| 06:25.37 | dado[1] | mymachine is not allowed to connect to this Mysql server. |
| 06:26.02 | dado[1] | it only accepts connection from localhost on the server. |
| 06:26.21 | pyrohotdog | Has anyone been successful installing deKorator? |
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| 06:26.34 | Arfim | dado[1]: so you've remote server you can't configure? |
| 06:27.24 | dado[1] | I can configure it, I have root on it, |
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| 06:27.57 | Arfim | dado[1]: so why don't you telnet 127.0.0.1 3306 on the server running myslqd? |
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| 06:29.20 | eth000 | dado[1], you can just type "mysql" in the shell to enter in the mysqld |
| 06:29.21 | eth000 | and create another user account |
| 06:29.22 | dado[1] | <Arfim> I want my web to be able to do queries on the mysql server, at the moment I cna't do that, php won't connect |
| 06:29.38 | Arfim | <dado[1]> what does php reply |
| 06:30.24 | dado[1] | Arfim #1130 - Host '192.168.1.3' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| 06:30.43 | Vasistha | dado[1]: have you set up the mysql server to allow connections from 192.168.1.3 ? |
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| 06:31.16 | dado[1] | Vasistha that is what I'm trying to do, but can't figure out how. |
| 06:31.25 | Dwonis | dado[1]: I think you forgot to GRANT privileges to someone |
| 06:31.32 | eth000 | dado[1], the mysql admin user is allowed only on localhost! |
| 06:31.33 | Arfim | <dado[1]> create a user in mysql which will be allowed to connect from 192.168.1.3. if you're not good at componing queries, use phpmyadmin |
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| 06:33.16 | dado[1] | Arfim that makes sence, I'll go try a new user and see what that does, thanks for the heads up, I'm just a SuSE runaway user |
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| 06:34.15 | Arfim | dado[1]: could you please explain me a short thing: which ip/hostname do you use in your php scriptie to connect to mysql? |
| 06:34.46 | dado[1] | Arfim ip address of the mysql server. |
| 06:35.12 | Arfim | dado[1]: as far as i remember when you use "localhost" or "127.0.01" mysql client lib compiled into php uses a filesystem socket and no tcp/ip. |
| 06:35.32 | Arfim | may be you could switch to localhost to skip tcp |
| 06:36.16 | Arfim | file system socket is faster because it does not require all the network overhead |
| 06:36.24 | dado[1] | Arfim i don't want to do that, I want to be able to connect trough tcp/ip, |
| 06:37.29 | Arfim | <dado[1]> ahh, so you must first setup a user allowed to connect from remote location. if you have already got web server and php running on it use phpmyadmin - good gui to do such the things |
| 06:37.51 | eth000 | dado[1], GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO myUser@"%" |
| 06:37.52 | eth000 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:46.56 | dado[1] | eth000 and Arfim thanks that was the problem just needed a new user, |
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| 06:50.29 | LunarC | aptitude quits with the message [Uncaught exception: ../../../src/generic/problemresolver/problemresolver.h:2216: generic_problem_resolver<PackageUniverse>::generic_problem_resolver(int, int, int, int, unsigned int, int, const PackageUniverse&) [with PackageUniverse = aptitude_universe]: Assertion "bd.broken_under(solution::root_node(initial_broken, universe, weights))" failed.] when I try to install the gimp, where should I co |
| 06:50.29 | LunarC | mplain about this? |
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| 06:50.47 | LunarC | sorry, didn't realize how long the message was =( |
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| 06:56.12 | musya___ | anybody have any recomendations for a desktop enviroment in debian? or package names? |
| 06:56.59 | allyn | ubuntu |
| 06:57.41 | musya___ | i can install the desktop enviroment of ubuntu in debian? |
| 06:57.57 | musya___ | what do you mean exactly? |
| 06:58.25 | Coweater | ubuntu's desktop environment is gnome |
| 06:58.36 | LunarC | fluxbox is cool if you know what you're doing, otherwise I'd recommend KDE or gnome |
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| 06:59.28 | epsilon | start checking out KDE and gnome, later icebox, and other specialized desktops |
| 06:59.40 | musya___ | after i install gnome, how can i run it? startx? |
| 07:00.13 | musya___ | BTW, thanks for the recomendations... |
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| 07:03.14 | valdyn | musya___: you cant run gnome after you installed it on that same computer, you need to install X and setup X too |
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| 07:03.44 | musya___ | what exactly is X |
| 07:04.19 | valdyn | musya___: gfx card <-> X <-> gnome <- gnome uses X to display things on your hardware |
| 07:04.44 | valdyn | !X |
| 07:04.57 | valdyn | !x11 |
| 07:04.58 | dpkg | somebody said x11 was a protocol used by X servers and clients X11 stands for the eleventh version of the X window system. |
| 07:05.05 | peterS | how helpful |
| 07:05.11 | valdyn | =/ |
| 07:05.34 | valdyn | musya___: X is a generic windowing systme, taht is not good for anything by itself |
| 07:06.48 | valdyn | !setup X |
| 07:06.48 | dpkg | it has been said that set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
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| 07:07.58 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, is there any client for the Ares p2p net? |
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| 07:14.24 | gawaine | Hi |
| 07:14.50 | gawaine | in Sid apt-get upgrade wants to remove kdebase-bin. Is it better if I don't upgrade for now ? |
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| 07:15.04 | musya___ | ok... |
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| 07:16.58 | simonrvn | gawaine: what did apt-listchanges tell you? |
| 07:17.54 | SonnyBurnett | what abput Apollon? |
| 07:18.09 | simonrvn | note, that's a trick question |
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| 07:20.33 | gawaine | simonrvn: how have I to use apt-listchanges ? |
| 07:20.49 | simonrvn | when you're installing something |
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| 07:22.30 | simonrvn | you don't have to do anything. it runs auto. it would've told you that there was a change in the package. what it does is display any NEWS.Debian files, if any, and displays the latest changelog.Debian entry(ies) |
| 07:22.41 | jmd | What's the easiest way to build a package and leave the debug symbols in it? |
| 07:23.08 | peterS | jmd: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip dpkg-buildpackage -b |
| 07:23.20 | simonrvn | not get it stripped. there's some env var you can set in the rules file to do that. that ^^ in fact :) |
| 07:23.52 | peterS | jmd: or if you aren't root, arrange for fakeroot to be installed and add -rfakeroot to that line |
| 07:24.03 | AoA | can somebody tell me how to add window manager to list in GUI login manager ins Sarge 3.1r0a ? |
| 07:24.51 | jmd | peterS: Thanks |
| 07:24.55 | peterS | AoA: I don't use any of the login managers so I can't answer that, but I _can_ tell you that it depends on whether you use xdm, gdm, wdm, kdm, or that other one whose I forget |
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| 07:25.30 | peterS | jmd: btw, note that DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip is not honored by all packages, but probably is honored by most packages by now. so ymmv. |
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| 07:26.41 | peterS | AoA: I don't think any of those are installed by default, precisely, so I can't guess which one you have |
| 07:27.07 | AoA | I installed all of that peterS |
| 07:27.09 | gawaine | simonrvn: If i do "apt-listchanges" it prints the usage message "sage: apt-listchanges [options] {--apt | filename.deb ...}". |
| 07:27.28 | peterS | AoA: I bet you didn't. I named 4 packages of which you only need one. what I don't know is which one you are using. |
| 07:28.10 | simonrvn | [03:22:30] simonrvn you don't have to do anything. it runs auto. it would've told you that there was a change in the package. what it does is display any NEWS.Debian files, if any, and displays the latest changelog.Debian entry(ies) |
| 07:28.45 | AoA | peterS , but I dont know is there is any config for that list wm |
| 07:29.24 | peterS | AoA: I can't answer your question, and neither can anyone else, until we know whether you are using xdm, gdm, wdm, kdm or the other display manager whose name I forget. you are not using all of them. you are using one, and we don't know which one. |
| 07:30.09 | AoA | peterS , I am using kde 3.3 , but in that list , I have 20 wm-s |
| 07:30.32 | peterS | AoA: if you are using kde, you are probably using kdm. however, we still don't know that for sure. |
| 07:31.07 | simonrvn | i suppose we play guessing game until s/he tells us |
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| 07:31.29 | peterS | simonrvn: well, and even then, I have no idea how to configure kdm, so assuming that's actually the right answer, I won't be able to help |
| 07:31.50 | simonrvn | i don't remember |
| 07:32.24 | simonrvn | i don't remember if it has a gui thingy a la gdm, or it's done from the kde control centre, or what ... |
| 07:32.32 | AoA | peterS , for login I am using gdm |
| 07:33.04 | peterS | AoA: now we're getting somewhere. I have actually used gdm, but unfortunately, it's been a long time. perhaps someone else here knows how to add different sessions to its config |
| 07:33.28 | AoA | ok, thanks peterS |
| 07:34.31 | simonrvn | *blink* *blink* |
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| 07:39.27 | pyrohotdog | how to I change GDM to the default instead of KDM? |
| 07:39.30 | pyrohotdog | *do |
| 07:40.04 | peterS | pyrohotdog: dpkg-reconfigure gdm, if it is already installed. if not, install it |
| 07:40.43 | SonnyBurnett | I have installed "Apollon" with giftd, but is not working did somebody install Apollon” |
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| 07:43.42 | coywolf | what cli tools can display .jpg file? |
| 07:43.53 | coywolf | !jpg |
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| 07:45.14 | reydeluniverso | hola |
| 07:45.50 | reydeluniverso | what this |
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| 07:49.55 | simonrvn | coywolf: try display from imagemagick, or qiv, or fbi on console (only for framebuffer), or similar |
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| 07:51.01 | reydeluniverso | l.a woman |
| 07:51.25 | brosio | how could i create a file of 10mb random data? dd if=/dev/random of=prova bs=1M |
| 07:51.30 | brosio | doesn't work |
| 07:52.07 | simonrvn | you don't want to be using random, use urandom, it won't block and it's near random data |
| 07:52.22 | reydeluniverso | simon |
| 07:52.44 | reydeluniverso | i dont believe it |
| 07:53.31 | brosio | simonrvn: now works with urandom... |
| 07:53.31 | brosio | which is the difference between random and urandom ? |
| 07:53.37 | coywolf | simonrvn, i mean invoke from cli, run still in X |
| 07:53.46 | simonrvn | um, i think i covered most of the differences already |
| 07:54.00 | crazy_penguin | goo day to all! |
| 07:54.26 | simonrvn | coywolf: yes. fbi is the only one that's console only. you can invoke the gui ones from an x terminal FYI |
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| 08:00.14 | Youpi | sans mollo c'est triste ici |
| 08:01.01 | jmd | Qui est mollo? |
| 08:02.43 | Youpi | oops, sorry |
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| 08:02.46 | Youpi | wrong tab |
| 08:02.53 | Youpi | God Bless Debian ! |
| 08:02.54 | Youpi | :) |
| 08:03.08 | coywolf | simonrvn, what /dev/random used for? |
| 08:03.27 | jmd | coywolf: Generating random numbers |
| 08:03.59 | gary | I've been looking for a good, fairly simple program for burning data to dvd's, any suggestions? I've had a look at a few online, but none seem suitable |
| 08:04.06 | jmd | more particularly, a stream of random bytes. |
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| 08:04.12 | jetscreamer | k3b |
| 08:04.19 | jetscreamer | or mkisofs |
| 08:04.32 | jmd | gary: Doesn't cdrecord also do DVDs ? |
| 08:05.03 | streuner | no |
| 08:05.13 | jmd | jetscreamer: mkisofs doesn't burn anything. It just makes (and populates) a filesystem. |
| 08:05.45 | coywolf | simonrvn, which one is good? imagemagick, qiv? |
| 08:06.06 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 08:06.06 | jetscreamer | growisofs |
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| 08:06.11 | coywolf | jmd, what's the diff b/w random and urandom? |
| 08:06.12 | simonrvn | i use display usually. good is is subjective |
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| 08:06.32 | streuner | jmd: mkisofs -R -J /tmp/foo | cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 - |
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| 08:06.46 | peterS | coywolf: the difference is the theoretical strength of the random numbers in extraordinary circumstances |
| 08:06.51 | gary | jmd: hmmm, I'm not sure actually. Thanks, I'll look into it |
| 08:07.30 | peterS | coywolf: the other difference is that /dev/random only gives out as much randomness as it gets in, it doesn't make up more. so if your system only has a limited amount of random source data, /dev/random will only give out data slowly |
| 08:07.46 | jmd | coywolf: urandom generated pseudorandom characters. |
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| 08:07.53 | peterS | whereas urandom will continue to spout random numbers long after its "source" of randomness has run out |
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| 08:08.09 | jmd | Actually, so does random, but urandom is more pseudo than random. |
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| 08:10.28 | jmd | Why does dpkg so often block with annoying "File on system created by you or by a script." messages? |
| 08:11.09 | jmd | when the script that created the file was the last run of that package's install script? |
| 08:11.12 | peterS | it shouldn't block on those, just print them and move on |
| 08:12.10 | jmd | peterS: Well it always does. I have to choose whether I want to keep the old version of install the new one etc. |
| 08:12.50 | peterS | jmd: what package? apparently some package isn't managing its config files properly |
| 08:13.17 | jmd | peterS: I think it was groff. |
| 08:13.33 | jmd | and one other. I didn't bother to write it down. |
| 08:13.51 | peterS | jmd: it's worth checking the BTS to see if this has been reported already. http://bugs.debian.org/src:groff |
| 08:14.25 | peterS | since if it's doing what you say it's doing, and it doesn't have a good reason like you having edited that file manually, it _is_ a serious bug that should be corrected before etch is released |
| 08:15.32 | jmd | It seems to happen very regularly for me. And usually, the packages/files are ones I've never even heard of. |
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| 08:24.41 | blackjudas | Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia-kernel, and I receive a dpkg error stating : Error: the current /etc/modules.conf is not automatically generated |
| 08:24.44 | blackjudas | What does this mean? |
| 08:24.56 | blackjudas | And which package/binary creates this file? |
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| 08:26.07 | simonrvn | i wouldn't worry about the file ... |
| 08:26.20 | peterS | best solution is to migrate to a 2.6 kernel so you can forget about /etc/modules.conf entirely |
| 08:26.28 | blackjudas | simonrvn: so remove it? |
| 08:26.34 | simonrvn | i didn't say that |
| 08:26.40 | blackjudas | I've been on a 2.6 kernel for well over a year :s |
| 08:26.54 | blackjudas | Ok, suggestions? |
| 08:27.04 | peterS | in that case, /etc/modules.conf is not used for anything, so you can ignore anything that mentions it |
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| 08:27.35 | blackjudas | peterS: it seems to block dpkg when it wants to install nvidia-kernel, either that or it's failing on something else. |
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| 08:28.19 | simonrvn | so rename it, and try |
| 08:28.29 | simonrvn | again |
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| 08:28.53 | wozz | hi |
| 08:28.53 | blackjudas | hrrm, I did update-modules and it seems to have worked. Strange. |
| 08:29.18 | simonrvn | update-modules is pretty much a no-op in 2.6 |
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| 08:29.38 | Sparticus | my server has changed it's IP address and all network details. I have edited the /etc/hosts file and /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect the changes. Ive restarted the network and can connect to the server on the internal network but the server doesnt seem to have access to the internet.... anyone got any idea's? |
| 08:29.39 | gnd | hello |
| 08:29.41 | blackjudas | simonrvn: yeah weird |
| 08:29.50 | gnd | I'm having problems doing the dist-upgrade |
| 08:30.05 | blackjudas | Just had some hard drive corruption from a frequently hanging machine due to heat. |
| 08:30.23 | blackjudas | Thought I'd be smart and force jfs to do a fsck... seems half my hard drive made it to lost+found |
| 08:30.27 | gnd | seems like x11-common is trying to write to /usr/X11R6/bin which is also used by opera-static |
| 08:31.05 | gnd | any ideas? |
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| 08:32.32 | simonrvn | yes. remove opera, rmdir the bin dir, install x11-common, once that runs successfully, rm the bin symlink, install opera, mv opera to /usr/bin, re-do the /usr/X11R6/bin symlink. bitch at opera.com to fix their package, enjoy |
| 08:32.47 | simonrvn | do that in order |
| 08:32.54 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 08:33.18 | gnd | hehe, thanks |
| 08:33.24 | gnd | sounds easy enough ;) |
| 08:33.51 | blackjudas | Hmm, fun. Seems everything's crashing, probably because half the stuff on the drive got hosed. |
| 08:33.54 | blackjudas | :( |
| 08:34.00 | Sparticus | my server has changed it's IP address and all network details. I have edited the /etc/hosts file and /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect the changes. Ive restarted the network and can connect to the server on the internal network but the server doesnt seem to have access to the internet.... anyone got any idea's? |
| 08:34.17 | blackjudas | Sparticus: check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 08:34.33 | simonrvn | best tool i found for that is mc. it can take a lot of punishment, and handy for mv'ing files |
| 08:34.40 | peterS | Sparticus: could be lots of things, you haven't said _what_ kind of access it doesn't have. what doesn't work? |
| 08:34.45 | simonrvn | and cd'ing everywhere |
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| 08:35.26 | bengrubb | Anyone here use cacti? |
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| 08:38.01 | jeffrin_ | hello |
| 08:38.13 | jeffrin_ | how to disable /etc/resolv.conf |
| 08:38.17 | Sparticus | blackjudas - thanks for your help, it seems to be working now.... just it seems really slow to connect, any more ideas? |
| 08:39.20 | Sparticus | any ttempt to connect to the internet is taking about 5-10 seconds before it does anything |
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| 08:39.36 | Sparticus | attempt* |
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| 08:46.02 | blackjudas | Sparticus: hrrm, could be your /etc/host file but I doubt it. Do a traceroute |
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| 08:49.47 | dman | is it a mistake to use ext2 on a 160G disk (1 partition)? |
| 08:50.40 | blackjudas | dman: nope, I can't see why not. Though due to my "wanna be different" attitude, I run jfs. |
| 08:50.50 | blackjudas | Oh, ext2? :s Why not ext3? |
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| 08:51.56 | dman | blackjudas, my kernel does not support it |
| 08:52.02 | blackjudas | Hrrm, anyone remember the exact command to tar an archive over an ssh connection and untar it there? I know I've done it, but I don't remember the tar switches. |
| 08:52.39 | blackjudas | something like: tar cf |ssh user@ip -c 'tar x' |
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| 08:54.41 | blackjudas | dman: hrrm, odd situation. Can you not upgrade your kernel? |
| 08:55.35 | Afief | I am buying a new phone, one of the phones i'm considering is Linux(debian) based, what's the advantage of embding linux on a phone? |
| 08:55.38 | dman | blackjudas, im contemplating that, but never done it, some im a bit hesitant, dont want to mess up my system |
| 08:56.14 | blackjudas | dman: what version? |
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| 08:58.41 | Sparticus | how can i add more IP's to just 1 NIC card? |
| 08:58.45 | dman | blackjudas, 2.2.20 |
| 08:59.53 | blackjudas | Sparticus: declare another interface in /etc/network/interfaces for an alias, such as eth0:0 then eth0:1 and so on. |
| 09:00.00 | blackjudas | dman: using debian? |
| 09:00.26 | Sparticus | so eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3 ? |
| 09:01.32 | blackjudas | yes, start with eth0:0 |
| 09:01.35 | dman | blackjudas, yes im running sarge with 2.2.20 |
| 09:01.41 | blackjudas | :o |
| 09:01.48 | blackjudas | Didn't think that was possible :) |
| 09:02.11 | bengrubb | grrr ctrl c isnt stopping something gr |
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| 09:02.22 | bengrubb | ah |
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| 09:02.26 | bengrubb | nvm |
| 09:02.29 | blackjudas | bengrubb: kill pid |
| 09:02.32 | blackjudas | :o |
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| 09:02.51 | Sparticus | my mistake blackjudas, slight typo messed it up... it's working now.... thanks again :) |
| 09:02.56 | Afief | I am buying a new phone, one of the phones i'm considering is Linux(debian) based, what's the advantage of embding linux on a phone? |
| 09:03.06 | blackjudas | Sparticus: you're welcome |
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| 09:03.24 | Nuvem | Need help with debian, post install .. |
| 09:03.36 | blackjudas | Afief: depends on what you want the phone to do, if you want to rule the world debian is the answer, if you don't... buy motorola :) |
| 09:03.41 | bengrubb | im doing a blank install of debian and installing cacti should be fun |
| 09:03.56 | blackjudas | Nuvem: just ask |
| 09:04.13 | blackjudas | bengrubb: heh yeah cacti is a fun little tool. I enjoy it very much. |
| 09:04.17 | Nuvem | the debian install doesn't see the linux partition somehow |
| 09:04.26 | Vasistha | Afief: it's hard to say, really. it might be easier for people to write programs that you could install on the phone. But then who knows if more programs will actually be available for the phone. |
| 09:04.37 | Afief | blackjudas: not thinking about ruling the world, but i have debian on my laptop. i just can't imagine what the advantages of it on a phone would be |
| 09:04.44 | Nuvem | It'd do a "Begin: Waiting for root file system... ..." |
| 09:04.49 | Nuvem | Hang |
| 09:04.51 | Soulfly_ | Need basic: How do I upgrade a source package with a new upstream tar.gz? |
| 09:04.55 | Nuvem | then spit out that error |
| 09:04.59 | Soulfly_ | +info |
| 09:05.10 | blackjudas | Nuvem: try stepping through the installer again, and make sure you commit your changes to the disk. |
| 09:05.15 | blackjudas | I think it asks you more than once |
| 09:05.42 | Nuvem | It doesn't .. how would I commit the changes though? |
| 09:05.44 | blackjudas | Afief: yeah I have no idea really, could be neat to see what it's actually used for. Is it a sip phone? |
| 09:05.50 | jetscreamer | wow it is #debian |
| 09:06.04 | blackjudas | Nuvem: it confirms when you partition your drive. |
| 09:06.18 | Afief | blackjudas: smartphone |
| 09:06.24 | Nuvem | During setup? It doesn't. |
| 09:06.39 | Nuvem | It just ejects the install cd then reboots. |
| 09:06.44 | blackjudas | Nuvem: Err it should, do you see your drive detected on boot? |
| 09:06.48 | blackjudas | oh |
| 09:07.03 | blackjudas | :s Been a while since I installed with the new installer. |
| 09:07.21 | Nuvem | Yeah, this is the latest I think .. sarge? |
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| 09:07.31 | blackjudas | It does go through the process of asking you how the drive(s) should be partitioned. |
| 09:07.39 | Nuvem | Yeah, I've done that. |
| 09:07.50 | blackjudas | It's a step it doesn't skip, even if you're doing the quick install, you can select auto partitioning. |
| 09:08.04 | blackjudas | Nuvem: what type of system? |
| 09:08.08 | Nuvem | I even let it automagically set up the partitions for me |
| 09:08.17 | Nuvem | It's just a desktop system .. |
| 09:08.24 | blackjudas | Nuvem: sata disks? |
| 09:08.30 | Nuvem | No, regular IDE. |
| 09:08.49 | bengrubb | sata hate debian /linux dont they? |
| 09:08.53 | blackjudas | Afief: sorry no idea what a smartphone is, though if it's running debian .. :) it should be |
| 09:09.08 | blackjudas | nah, the kernel at sarges release hated sata disks |
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| 09:09.20 | bengrubb | oh ok |
| 09:09.20 | Nuvem | I've been having wierd problems with debian installs .. |
| 09:09.25 | Afief | blackjudas: i guess... i'll write an article once i figure out what it's good for |
| 09:09.31 | blackjudas | bengrubb: using quite a few sata disks here |
| 09:09.39 | bengrubb | cool |
| 09:09.42 | blackjudas | Nuvem: hmm, odd |
| 09:09.52 | blackjudas | I don't understand what it's actually failing on. |
| 09:10.00 | blackjudas | Do you have any error output? |
| 09:10.02 | bengrubb | anyone here hate western digital? |
| 09:10.10 | jetscreamer | no i hate maxtor |
| 09:10.14 | jetscreamer | and toshiba |
| 09:10.15 | bengrubb | as in there harddrives crash alot |
| 09:10.16 | blackjudas | yes :) wd=hell... so is maxtor |
| 09:10.28 | dman | use seagate and never have probs |
| 09:10.32 | Nuvem | Error outputs are just those typical "cannot detect /hda/hda1" etc .. |
| 09:10.36 | jetscreamer | wd has been good to me personally.. and seagate |
| 09:10.36 | blackjudas | seagate and samsung = primo |
| 09:10.38 | yang | how do i set wtmp logs to stop rotating log files? |
| 09:10.45 | jetscreamer | i have a samsung also |
| 09:10.50 | bengrubb | mm |
| 09:10.56 | blackjudas | Nuvem: hmm, not typical :) |
| 09:10.59 | Nuvem | Does sarge work well with a dual boot system? |
| 09:11.01 | blackjudas | do you know what your controller is? |
| 09:11.10 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: how many controllers do you have |
| 09:11.19 | blackjudas | Nuvem: yep should work fine, though that's outta my realm, I haven't seen windows in years. |
| 09:11.19 | Nuvem | controllers? |
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| 09:11.28 | jetscreamer | ide/sata controllers |
| 09:11.39 | Nuvem | I only have one HDD. That's all. |
| 09:11.44 | jetscreamer | i didn't ask that |
| 09:11.46 | blackjudas | yang: remove it out of /etc/logrotate.conf? |
| 09:11.54 | Nuvem | Well then I don't know what you're talking about. |
| 09:12.21 | jetscreamer | ide/sata controllers.. that you hook the hd's up to |
| 09:12.28 | Nuvem | it's ide. |
| 09:12.31 | Nuvem | just one. |
| 09:12.33 | bengrubb | anyone have raid going |
| 09:12.36 | jetscreamer | do you have only one? |
| 09:12.40 | bengrubb | bit of topic |
| 09:12.44 | jetscreamer | some mb's have both |
| 09:12.45 | Nuvem | Yeah, only one. |
| 09:12.48 | jetscreamer | k nm |
| 09:12.53 | blackjudas | bengrubb: yep everyone running a debian linux kernel has it |
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| 09:13.15 | nagulator | hello debian friends |
| 09:13.18 | bengrubb | i have 2 harddrives and i only use one i should use the othere they're both scsi |
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| 09:13.21 | nagulator | anyone remember me? |
| 09:13.34 | jetscreamer | !seen nagulator |
| 09:13.35 | dpkg | nagulator is currently on #debian (24s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 14s |
| 09:13.42 | jetscreamer | he does |
| 09:13.43 | nagulator | ha ha ha |
| 09:13.47 | nagulator | ncie touch |
| 09:13.50 | Nuvem | So nothing I can do? |
| 09:13.50 | nagulator | nice* |
| 09:14.07 | nagulator | could you please rundown a quick dumb compare between debian/ubuntu? |
| 09:14.17 | nagulator | i know this is useless but i would like to know in anycase |
| 09:14.19 | blackjudas | Nuvem: I don't really understand where/when/why this is happening for you. |
| 09:14.22 | nagulator | i use fedora/debian |
| 09:14.48 | blackjudas | nagulator: debian = true sex, ubuntu = masturbating |
| 09:14.57 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: have you tried using the install cd in rescue mode? |
| 09:15.14 | dman | ;-) thats a good one blackjudas |
| 09:15.18 | nagulator | blackjudas: lol |
| 09:15.20 | Nuvem | Yeah, still .. it would just hang while detecting /dev/hda1 |
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| 09:15.33 | Vasistha | !polls |
| 09:15.34 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
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| 09:15.41 | nagulator | i stick with fedora/debian never failed me to date |
| 09:15.42 | bengrubb | what do people think of windows vista (i have tinkered with it msdn) |
| 09:15.49 | bengrubb | hate |
| 09:15.50 | jetscreamer | ask in #windows |
| 09:16.00 | bengrubb | k |
| 09:16.09 | bengrubb | theres a windows channel on debian.. |
| 09:16.12 | Nuvem | Ask in #windows? |
| 09:16.14 | nagulator | it has been a while actually since i used debian again but I think i should move to it full time eventually, packages are up to date anyway |
| 09:16.18 | Vasistha | nagulator: well anyway... I think ubuntu attempts to make debian unstable usable for the masses, whereas unstable is often... well, unstable. But I dunno how stable ubuntu is, either. |
| 09:16.18 | blackjudas | debian != winbloze if it ever came to that... I'd quit. |
| 09:16.32 | blackjudas | then again... gnome's gettin' pretty sparse on features... |
| 09:16.32 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: try a livecd like #kanotix and see if it sees your drive. if it does you could chroot in and fix it |
| 09:16.37 | nagulator | thanks vasistha, my pov too |
| 09:16.46 | Nuvem | Sigh |
| 09:16.59 | Nuvem | I'm not burining another livecd distro |
| 09:17.11 | jetscreamer | you should have burned that one first :) |
| 09:17.13 | nagulator | only thing with debian was I had to compile gnome again arghh :P |
| 09:17.20 | Vasistha | nagulator: I use sarge, so... that's just quite drastically different |
| 09:17.21 | blackjudas | Vasistha: hrrm, would you feel stable if you masturbated all the time... |
| 09:17.25 | blackjudas | :( don't answer that |
| 09:17.26 | Nuvem | I've burned like 10 already .. |
| 09:17.29 | Nuvem | None of them work. |
| 09:17.33 | jetscreamer | like i said |
| 09:17.38 | Nuvem | They all kernel panick at some point |
| 09:17.47 | Vasistha | blackjudas: not answering... |
| 09:17.56 | jetscreamer | if that one doesn't work your box is hosed :) |
| 09:18.03 | jetscreamer | seriously though |
| 09:18.06 | blackjudas | nagulator: you should never need to compile much of anything, unless you like doing that kinda stuff. |
| 09:18.12 | nagulator | vasistha: sarge does not have 2.14 / 2.15 though |
| 09:18.17 | Nuvem | Back to Windows then? |
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| 09:18.23 | nagulator | blackjudas: yeah i like it when I have the time to |
| 09:18.25 | Nuvem | The only "reliable" OS out there .. |
| 09:18.37 | nagulator | nuvem: what is with you and windows anyway |
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| 09:18.46 | blackjudas | Nuvem: heh... right |
| 09:18.48 | Vasistha | nagulator: uh, 2.14 / 2.15 of WHAT? |
| 09:18.49 | pyrohotdog1 | I mounted my NTFS drive...but when I try to open it in the file browser it says I don't have permiession? |
| 09:18.55 | nagulator | gnome vasistha |
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| 09:19.08 | jetscreamer | pyrohotdog: you need umask in the mount options |
| 09:19.12 | blackjudas | nagulator: use backports.org |
| 09:19.18 | Nuvem | Only reason why I keep a windows partition around is because "linux" wont install on my system .. |
| 09:19.19 | nagulator | pyrohotdog1: only root has permission there you need to put umask=0222 in your fstab |
| 09:19.21 | Vasistha | nagulator: oh, of course not. sarge is way, way outdated. But it's a breeze to maintain, hardly ever any upgrades or downloads |
| 09:19.25 | blackjudas | nagulator: or if you don't mind being told not to run sid... run sid |
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| 09:19.42 | Nuvem | Just a failsafe thing .. |
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| 09:19.57 | pyrohotdog1 | where do I put umask? |
| 09:20.02 | nagulator | blackjudas: i only want my box to be stable, minor occasional instability is ok... but only at home! |
| 09:20.11 | Vasistha | pyrohotdog in /etc/fstab |
| 09:20.11 | nagulator | you have a line like this pyro: |
| 09:20.12 | blackjudas | Nuvem: hmm, well it sounds like your machine is hosed, incompatible, or misconfigured... where should we start? |
| 09:20.30 | Nuvem | I friggin' don't know. Slackware 10.2 works just fine though.. |
| 09:20.46 | blackjudas | nagulator: I run sid 100% of the time, for my workstations, I don't find sid as bad as people claim it to be. |
| 09:20.55 | nagulator | /dev/hdc1 /mnt/ntfs ro,users,umask=0222,uid=putyournamehere 0 0 |
| 09:21.13 | pyrohotdog1 | mmkay |
| 09:21.18 | Vasistha | nagulator: does the uid work with a non-number? |
| 09:21.27 | jetscreamer | pyrohotdog: http://linux.hfds.com/debian_files/fstab |
| 09:21.33 | jetscreamer | yes it does |
| 09:21.33 | Nuvem | So even if I were to download another livecd distro, what would I need to do to fix that /dev/hda problem? |
| 09:21.40 | nagulator | it does work vasistha |
| 09:21.46 | Vasistha | nice |
| 09:22.13 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: just examine / compare the config files |
| 09:22.18 | nagulator | blackjudas: well you know how it goes :) |
| 09:22.57 | Nuvem | Can you be more specific? |
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| 09:23.35 | blackjudas | Nuvem: there's one of two problems, 1. debian-installer is borked (probably not, has been tested a lot, by a lot of people) 2. you have some kind of instability 3. you need to manually partition, or maybe press alt+f2 and type the following "dmesg|grep hda" (I don't remmeber if that's a valid command in the installer), but at least find out what dmesg reports. |
| 09:24.06 | blackjudas | Oh and yeah.. oops I said one of two things :) (it's actually 3) |
| 09:24.17 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst , and 'maybe' /boot/grub/device.map |
| 09:24.33 | jetscreamer | there are others, but not essential for the booting |
| 09:24.39 | nagulator | hmm anyone has experience with libdts? |
| 09:24.45 | Nuvem | Funny thing is, I had to boot into a live CD to format the HDD this round .. I was hoping that way it'd work. Same problems. |
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| 09:24.51 | Nuvem | I'll try dmesg though .. |
| 09:25.04 | blackjudas | Nuvem: try partitioning yourself |
| 09:25.08 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: the device.map one may be different due to booting from the cd |
| 09:25.10 | Nuvem | I already did. |
| 09:25.12 | Nuvem | Manually. |
| 09:25.12 | blackjudas | see if that makes a difference |
| 09:25.14 | bengrubb | grr |
| 09:25.16 | blackjudas | ok |
| 09:25.22 | bengrubb | i did apt-get install cacti |
| 09:25.26 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: try a low level format then pop the install cd in |
| 09:25.28 | Nuvem | What's device.map? |
| 09:25.28 | bengrubb | all fine |
| 09:25.37 | bengrubb | then went to localhost/cacti |
| 09:25.43 | bengrubb | and mysql_connect error |
| 09:26.06 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: it's /boot/grub/device.map tells grub what hd(0,0) = for instance |
| 09:26.09 | Nuvem | And how would I do a low level format? I thought debian already formats it for you |
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| 09:26.35 | bengrubb | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/cacti/site/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 338 |
| 09:26.51 | bengrubb | :'( |
| 09:26.57 | blackjudas | Nuvem: if you have a livecd distro... low-level format is one of a few things... my personal favorite is shred.. but dd does the trick :P |
| 09:27.00 | formorer | bengrubb: you want to install and to load the mysql modul |
| 09:27.01 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: it takes a long time, and i usually use the tools from the hd manufacturer, but i hear it's the equiv of using dd to write 0's to the entire drive |
| 09:27.11 | blackjudas | bengrubb: google is your friend |
| 09:27.17 | bengrubb | yes it is |
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| 09:27.32 | bengrubb | and so are you hehe |
| 09:27.44 | formorer | no its not |
| 09:27.47 | blackjudas | bengrubb: hint: check for adodb (if it's installed) |
| 09:27.49 | Nuvem | Humm, I'll try that .. |
| 09:28.04 | bengrubb | blackjudas: hmm ok |
| 09:28.10 | jetscreamer | Nuvem: #kanotix always functions |
| 09:28.11 | blackjudas | I think it's called php-mysql ... (don't quote me, it's been a long time) |
| 09:28.22 | bengrubb | i thought it was included in the dependincies |
| 09:28.24 | formorer | ibphp-adodb |
| 09:28.31 | Nuvem | Please, no more other live distros .. :( |
| 09:28.43 | jetscreamer | whatever. |
| 09:29.16 | bengrubb | debian:~# ibphp-adodb |
| 09:29.16 | bengrubb | -bash: ibphp-adodb: command not found |
| 09:29.50 | Nuvem | Earlier this week, I had an even more bizzare problem with installing debian |
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| 09:31.23 | bengrubb | libphp-adodb ? |
| 09:31.45 | bengrubb | libphp-adodb is already the newest version. |
| 09:31.51 | bengrubb | so i have it installed |
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| 09:34.15 | jetscreamer | [04.32.32] <bengrubb> 90 windows fans.. [04.32.36] <bengrubb> 800 debian |
| 09:34.32 | jetscreamer | i think there's a few more windows users somehwere |
| 09:35.03 | bengrubb | heh |
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| 09:35.38 | berkes | hello there. Anyone here who knows some ins-and-outs from aspell? |
| 09:35.41 | jetscreamer | i keep seeing w2k in hospitals |
| 09:35.46 | jetscreamer | scary |
| 09:36.00 | bengrubb | you go to hospital alot |
| 09:36.12 | bengrubb | they use remote desktop where i got |
| 09:36.13 | bengrubb | go |
| 09:36.28 | [Bart] | jetscreamer : are you dying? Sorry, they cant help you, they have currently a blue screen problem :p |
| 09:36.29 | bengrubb | for the end-uers |
| 09:36.32 | berkes | I want to clean it out a bit, here, but want to know what files are for what: |
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| 09:36.36 | bengrubb | haha |
| 09:36.45 | berkes | eg. what the difference between ise and ize- is. |
| 09:37.08 | bengrubb | my problem im getting is: Can't connect to local mysql server |
| 09:37.12 | bengrubb | thats why im getting |
| 09:37.13 | bengrubb | Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/cacti/site/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 338 |
| 09:37.14 | jetscreamer | yeah i go to lots of hospitals every week |
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| 09:37.50 | owg | why sometimes when I install windows, partitions get mixed ( /dev/hda3 becomes /dev/hda2 ) ? |
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| 09:39.06 | bengrubb | grrr why wont mysql start whhhhy |
| 09:39.15 | MrNaz | how do i find what process is using a particular port? |
| 09:39.28 | MrNaz | i cant start my apache ssl coz zpparently something else is bound to port 443 |
| 09:39.37 | berkes | bengrubb: seems like you are missing a certain dependency. |
| 09:39.46 | blackjudas | bengrubb: check the /etc/mysql/my.cnf file |
| 09:40.05 | blackjudas | MrNaz: netstat -lnp |
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| 09:40.10 | berkes | adodb is nonstandard, for mysql, the default is myisam |
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| 09:40.33 | jetscreamer | owg it used to be sane. i've given up lately and just give each os it's own hd |
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| 09:40.40 | jetscreamer | and boot from it |
| 09:40.41 | bengrubb | i just ran apt-get install cacti and hoped for the best |
| 09:40.47 | bengrubb | (from a clean install) |
| 09:41.05 | blackjudas | bengrubb: is mysql-server installed? |
| 09:41.08 | owg | jetscreamer, I have only one internal and one external (usb) disk |
| 09:41.18 | owg | I can't install my OS on the usb disk |
| 09:41.34 | formorer | bengrubb: are you _really_ that you have loaded the mysql module from your php.ini? |
| 09:41.47 | formorer | bengrubb: its exactly the error you get if you didn't loaded it |
| 09:42.03 | bengrubb | i just followed what it asked hhavn't tinkered yet |
| 09:42.10 | jetscreamer | owg otherwise i never let any installer partition, i do it myself in one way or another |
| 09:42.22 | bengrubb | and no mysql-server isnt installed... |
| 09:42.33 | formorer | bengrubb: use phpinfo() to check about mysql |
| 09:42.37 | MrNaz | blackjudas thanks |
| 09:42.41 | bengrubb | yep i shall |
| 09:43.15 | blackjudas | MrNaz: np |
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| 09:43.38 | debianneuling | morgen :-) |
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| 09:43.50 | blackjudas | guten? |
| 09:44.02 | berkes | goede morgen. |
| 09:44.05 | berkes | :) |
| 09:44.07 | debianneuling | naja - ok ... guten morgen ;-) |
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| 09:44.52 | debianneuling | ist hier deutsch ok oder besser englisch? |
| 09:45.27 | jetscreamer | !de |
| 09:45.28 | dpkg | [de] Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:45.44 | Sorai | OooO |
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| 09:47.51 | owg | jetscreamer, but if you install windows, it does it automatically for you (it wipes your boot manager) |
| 09:48.01 | kylen | hello all |
| 09:48.04 | kylen | :) |
| 09:48.16 | kylen | Debian is nice |
| 09:48.18 | kylen | he |
| 09:48.27 | kylen | At this time at amd64 :) |
| 09:48.44 | jetscreamer | owg: if you let it. course i've not used home |
| 09:49.02 | jetscreamer | owg: yeah it will wipe the boot manager sorry |
| 09:49.07 | owg | jetscreamer, not if you let it, if you install windows! |
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| 09:49.12 | owg | you can't escape it |
| 09:49.13 | jetscreamer | owg but you can put it back |
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| 09:49.20 | owg | yeah sure thing |
| 09:49.22 | jetscreamer | grub-floppies rock |
| 09:49.24 | owg | but you know what I did? |
| 09:49.39 | jetscreamer | what |
| 09:49.45 | owg | I installed windows on the same (windows partition) and all my partitions got one number ahead |
| 09:49.59 | owg | i.e. /dev/hda2 -> /dev/hda1 ; /dev/hda3 -> /dev/hda2 |
| 09:50.10 | kylen | Run grub> root (hd0,0) /* ENTER */ setup (hd0) and work :) |
| 09:50.12 | owg | and I had to make a new boot img |
| 09:50.23 | jetscreamer | owg if you use fdisk to fix the numbering schema windows won't boot |
| 09:50.27 | jetscreamer | btw |
| 09:50.41 | kylen | Windows is shit |
| 09:50.44 | owg | why won't it boot? |
| 09:50.58 | jetscreamer | boot.ini |
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| 09:51.11 | JoyFM | hi |
| 09:51.22 | JoyFM | is there anybody who knows something about audacit? |
| 09:51.25 | jetscreamer | i mean fdisk in linux |
| 09:51.25 | JoyFM | audacity |
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| 09:51.47 | jetscreamer | it will renumber the partitions as they should be |
| 09:51.58 | kylen | What U wanna know about audacity ? |
| 09:51.58 | jetscreamer | or has the option to rather |
| 09:52.04 | kylen | sorry about my EN |
| 09:52.08 | owg | jetscreamer, what's the option? |
| 09:52.09 | kylen | must more learn |
| 09:52.21 | JoyFM | i've 256MB RAM and a 1,2Ghz Duron CPU i think i shut be able to reacord in realtime (under windows it works!!!) but with audacity it dont works could anybody help me? |
| 09:52.27 | jetscreamer | i forget i believe it's in the extended menu |
| 09:52.37 | ktwilight | just doing apt-get dist-upgrade now, and it seems that it'll remove nvidia-glx and install a bunch of xserver-xorg-video-* packages instead that has nothing to do with my graphics card. anyone having this too? |
| 09:53.03 | blackjudas | ktwilight: normal |
| 09:53.03 | jetscreamer | yeah x for expert, then it's f |
| 09:53.18 | ktwilight | define normal |
| 09:53.31 | blackjudas | ktwilight: install what it wants... |
| 09:53.32 | maxb | 'that which is expected to happen' |
| 09:53.38 | ktwilight | ......... |
| 09:53.38 | blackjudas | m-a a-i nvidia |
| 09:53.45 | kylen | JoyFM Hi-resolution Converter set to fast |
| 09:53.46 | blackjudas | apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 09:53.47 | ktwilight | so i guess it's save to install? |
| 09:53.54 | blackjudas | yes normal |
| 09:53.55 | ktwilight | hm... |
| 09:54.14 | blackjudas | but good one maxb :) |
| 09:54.14 | kylen | JoyFM Maybe U have very much o proccess in system |
| 09:54.14 | JoyFM | kylen, where can i change this option? |
| 09:54.17 | ktwilight | but why would xserver install other video driver types that i don't have? :/ |
| 09:54.22 | ktwilight | it seems so...abnormal... |
| 09:54.26 | JoyFM | kylen, no i havn't |
| 09:54.38 | jetscreamer | ktwilight: because you have the metapackage installed |
| 09:54.41 | maxb | Because apt-get knows only about packages, not about your hardware |
| 09:54.44 | jetscreamer | and it's by default |
| 09:54.53 | jetscreamer | and it draws them all in |
| 09:54.58 | kylen | JoyFM in option AudaCity |
| 09:54.59 | jetscreamer | take it and the others out |
| 09:55.04 | ktwilight | hmm.... |
| 09:55.17 | blackjudas | ktwilight: it's not installing anything, apt-get is. And is basing it on a dependency. Maybe you like using aptitude? It likes to install recommended packages. |
| 09:55.38 | JoyFM | kylen, i've choosen the minimal options |
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| 09:55.41 | maxb | No, this really happens with plain apt-get. I just did the same thing. |
| 09:55.49 | blackjudas | oh super |
| 09:55.49 | blackjudas | heh |
| 09:55.55 | ktwilight | 'cuz it also removes xdm... |
| 09:56.02 | ktwilight | which is my only desktop manager... |
| 09:56.06 | ktwilight | or maybe i don't need it...hmm... |
| 09:56.22 | JoyFM | but if i record a voice it sounds like it stumbles |
| 09:56.31 | ktwilight | but more importantly, why does it install a bunch of stuff that i don't quite need. it's all in all 50mb+ |
| 09:56.44 | maxb | Well, today's testing includes the X69->7 transition. Huge amounts of dependencies flying everywhere. |
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| 09:56.55 | blackjudas | anyone realize how long it takes to transfer 100gigs of data over a gigabit line? Definately not 100 seconds.. :( |
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| 09:56.56 | ktwilight | oh |
| 09:56.56 | maxb | ktwilight: The entire structure of the X packaging has changed. |
| 09:57.10 | ktwilight | 'cuz i see that xorg will be installed too! and it's "new" even though i have it installed |
| 09:57.16 | ktwilight | oh, i see... |
| 09:57.21 | kylen | JoyFM hm...maybe Letacy is to small, maybe re-configure card, alsaconfig and ENTER |
| 09:57.34 | jetscreamer | ktwilight: xdm is a display manager |
| 09:57.38 | JoyFM | ok |
| 09:57.42 | ktwilight | oh yea...display manager...my bad :/ |
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| 09:57.57 | ktwilight | so the Q is, how do you guys know? is there like a news section or something that i've been missing out? :/ |
| 09:58.15 | kylen | JoyFM I know this problem on Windows, My Home studio is Evolution MK-449C + Korg IS35 and EMU |
| 09:58.34 | kylen | but EMU doesn`t run on any Linux |
| 09:58.37 | kylen | and BSD |
| 09:58.38 | kylen | :( |
| 09:58.40 | JoyFM | who do i reconfigure my alsa? |
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| 09:58.42 | jetscreamer | ktwilight: but if you don't switch between say like gnome and kde or whatever, not much point to having xdm. and the gdm/kdm ones you could install and are integrated with gnome/kde (if you use em) |
| 09:59.14 | kylen | JoyFM write in root: alsaconfig |
| 09:59.17 | ktwilight | i use xfce. but i have read somewhere that i don't need a xdm 'cuz of the autologin script. so... |
| 09:59.20 | ktwilight | yea |
| 09:59.21 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 09:59.46 | ab3l | hi, if i've lm-sensor installed how do i read temperature ? |
| 09:59.54 | JoyFM | but the strange thing is in the alsa mixer it tells me i've a eMircro E28028 |
| 10:00.07 | JoyFM | bash: alsaconfig: command not found |
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| 10:00.15 | jetscreamer | ktwilight: just type startx, or i think there's like a xfcestart thing but i dunno |
| 10:00.16 | ktwilight | it's alsaconf |
| 10:00.22 | JoyFM | kay ;) |
| 10:00.24 | jetscreamer | JoyFM: i think it's alsaconf |
| 10:00.26 | ktwilight | yup, i use startx |
| 10:00.29 | JoyFM | thx |
| 10:00.32 | ktwilight | :) |
| 10:00.43 | ktwilight | am just wondering now if i should wait for the upgrade...haha |
| 10:00.49 | ktwilight | i'm chicken scared :( |
| 10:00.51 | kylen | mu EMU has difreny chipset, e-mu1212m for studio, stereo power full card |
| 10:00.56 | kylen | right , sorry :) |
| 10:01.09 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 10:01.10 | dpkg | alsa-bork is probably modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui, or apt-get install alsa-base |
| 10:01.27 | ab3l | hi, if i've lm-sensor installed how do i read temperature ? |
| 10:01.31 | jetscreamer | JoyFM: at a guess you need to modprobe stuff |
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| 10:01.50 | jetscreamer | ab3l: with gkrellem or some other prog of that type |
| 10:02.12 | jetscreamer | but you need the kernel modules for i2c and then the chip on the mb itself |
| 10:02.17 | ktwilight | for alsa, there are a number of wrappers too for esd and oss.... |
| 10:02.26 | JoyFM | but i think audacity uses oss (because using /dev/dsp ) |
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| 10:02.42 | jetscreamer | JoyFM: yeah that was the other thing.. sarge? |
| 10:02.44 | ic3man05 | JoyFM: audacity uses oss |
| 10:03.01 | JoyFM | jetscreamer, i'm using sid ;) |
| 10:03.03 | jetscreamer | load the oss wrapper then if it's just an audacity problem |
| 10:03.13 | jetscreamer | and put it in /etc/modules |
| 10:03.28 | jetscreamer | it/them/whatever |
| 10:03.44 | ic3man05 | JoyFM: aoss should make it work with alsa |
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| 10:04.13 | JoyFM | ic3man05, i think i've aoss installed |
| 10:04.32 | ic3man05 | JoyFM: I believe its in the alsa-oss package |
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| 10:07.10 | JoyFM | i've reconfigured alsa but it stumbles anyway |
| 10:08.41 | JoyFM | and aoss is loaded |
| 10:09.00 | JoyFM | the thing is it works but it isnt realtime |
| 10:10.35 | JoyFM | hmm |
| 10:10.49 | JoyFM | it works as root with nice -n -20 |
| 10:11.14 | ic3man05 | I would check out alsa's homepage and look up your card |
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| 10:11.22 | kylen | what iis load of CPU when U using AudaCity recording live ? |
| 10:12.13 | JoyFM | mom |
| 10:12.41 | kylen | When is 80/90% that meens is CPU, when is small, 30-50% then configuration problem |
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| 10:13.06 | thementor | hello channel |
| 10:13.11 | kylen | :-] |
| 10:13.17 | thementor | does debian come with a mp3 player |
| 10:13.30 | ic3man05 | Kylen: shouldn't cpu be 99.9+% load to lag the audio? |
| 10:13.44 | ic3man05 | thementor, mpg321 |
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| 10:14.13 | JoyFM | its nearly 100% |
| 10:14.22 | thementor | ic3man05:thanx |
| 10:14.26 | iuvrall | hi guys, how to increase the font size of the kdm login text? |
| 10:14.31 | kylen | yes, when CPU have 99,9 it is big lag ;) |
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| 10:14.46 | ic3man05 | thementor: amarok is a good gui choice or xmms |
| 10:14.49 | JoyFM | but it isn't audcity it self |
| 10:14.53 | JoyFM | its the xserver |
| 10:15.04 | MoDaX | iuvrall: control center -> system administration -> login manager |
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| 10:15.28 | iuvrall | MoDaX: thks, will give it a try right now. |
| 10:15.35 | ab3l | jetscreamer : how do i launch gkrellem once installed ? |
| 10:15.40 | ic3man05 | iuvrall: output of xdpyinfo |grep resolution? |
| 10:15.43 | kylen | ic3man05 I like xmms it is fast, amarok turtles |
| 10:16.08 | kylen | ic3man05 but is my own opinion, vlc is good :) |
| 10:16.13 | ic3man05 | kylen: xmms didn't support smb:// when I needed it |
| 10:16.25 | ic3man05 | kylen: amarok did, never tryed vlc |
| 10:16.27 | jetscreamer | ab3l: it's an x-app iirc so should be in your menu |
| 10:16.50 | jetscreamer | maybe try update-menus in an xterm, or locate gkrellem |
| 10:17.01 | ic3man05 | jetscreamer: gnome/kde is alt+f2 |
| 10:17.01 | kylen | ic3man05 at this time a look for my vlc, but does`t support smb ;/ |
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| 10:17.07 | jetscreamer | maybe sudo updatedb before locate |
| 10:17.25 | ic3man05 | kylen: I fixed it by just adding the smb share to fstab |
| 10:17.28 | jetscreamer | ic3man05: what? |
| 10:17.39 | ic3man05 | jetscreamer: just pushing alt+f2 |
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| 10:17.52 | ic3man05 | jetscreamer: in kde/gnome it should open up a prompt |
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| 10:18.05 | ab3l | jetscreamer : still nothing |
| 10:18.06 | kylen | ic3man05 :-] |
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| 10:18.45 | quannum | hello all, what do you suggest to install ? stable or testing for normal use / non server |
| 10:18.48 | quannum | ? |
| 10:18.50 | ab3l | ok done just typing gkrellm |
| 10:18.52 | jetscreamer | !find gketch |
| 10:18.56 | jetscreamer | erp |
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| 10:19.02 | jetscreamer | etch quannum |
| 10:19.09 | ic3man05 | quannum: I'm using testing on my desktop and server, server has been running for over a month now |
| 10:19.48 | kylen | Who know how to run i Debian more that 1 source audio ? In FreeBSD is sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=8... |
| 10:19.49 | quannum | ic3man05: how about the security updates for testing ? are they around and good enough? |
| 10:20.08 | jetscreamer | ab3l: usr/bin/gkrellm |
| 10:20.17 | ab3l | did and worked |
| 10:20.18 | ic3man05 | quannum: not sure, I've installed debian about a month ago and still fairly new to it |
| 10:20.20 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 10:20.32 | ab3l | but shows evreryting except temperature and fan speed |
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| 10:20.49 | ic3man05 | ab3l: lm_sensors for temp and fan speed |
| 10:20.49 | jetscreamer | you can add if they're not there |
| 10:20.57 | ab3l | it's installed |
| 10:21.07 | ic3man05 | ab3l: does sensors work? |
| 10:21.11 | ab3l | but in sensors page of gkrellem it'a ll disabled |
| 10:21.24 | ab3l | the chip : yes it does |
| 10:21.26 | quannum | anyone? about security updates for testing ? are they around and good enough? |
| 10:21.31 | kylen | daemon lmsensor must be run |
| 10:21.48 | ic3man05 | ab3l: try /etc/init.d/lm-sensors start |
| 10:22.25 | kylen | install the S.M.A.R.T to use disc statistic |
| 10:22.31 | ic3man05 | quannum: how do you go about applying security updates besides apt-get upgrade? |
| 10:22.53 | ab3l | that command started without problems need to restart gkrellem ? |
| 10:23.00 | ic3man05 | well |
| 10:23.05 | ic3man05 | ab3l: try sensors |
| 10:23.07 | CAiRO | what's the best audio player on linux in your opinion? xmms/beep? |
| 10:23.13 | kylen | restart gkrelmm |
| 10:23.13 | ic3man05 | ab3l: $ sensors |
| 10:23.14 | jetscreamer | quannum: something is htere |
| 10:23.18 | MoDaX | quannum: http://spohr.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
| 10:23.28 | ic3man05 | ab3l: if you get output that seems correct then restart gkrellm |
| 10:23.29 | jetscreamer | did you run sensors-config |
| 10:23.30 | quannum | i heard security updates for testing arent good.. |
| 10:23.43 | jetscreamer | quannum: but it gets lots of updates |
| 10:23.53 | jetscreamer | comparatively |
| 10:24.18 | quannum | jetscreamer: just with apt-get upgrade? |
| 10:24.22 | jetscreamer | rinstall etch and enable selinux if you're worried |
| 10:24.23 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 10:24.32 | ic3man05 | quannum: I use apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:24.41 | ic3man05 | seems to work better in my opinion |
| 10:24.47 | quannum | ic3man05: and security updates are there? |
| 10:25.11 | ic3man05 | quannum: again I'm not sure, most of the time its a new program number because stuff isn't frozen yet |
| 10:25.47 | ic3man05 | quannum: if you want 100% security then I'd go with sarge |
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| 10:26.05 | ic3man05 | and once etch settles down upgrade |
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| 10:26.12 | quannum | Is stable getting more updates than in the past? |
| 10:26.25 | rhalff_ | hi, how do I ensure a custom init.d script to be started at boot ? |
| 10:26.25 | ic3man05 | quannum: why does it matter? |
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| 10:27.01 | ic3man05 | rhalff_ add it to a run level with a symbolic link |
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| 10:27.28 | kylen | in apt-get i function to install grsecurity and much more |
| 10:27.33 | johannes_ | re |
| 10:27.44 | rhalff_ | ic3man05, uhm, ok |
| 10:27.55 | kylen | but i forgot what is the command ;) |
| 10:27.58 | ic3man05 | rhalff_ /etc/rcx.d/Sxxcustomscript |
| 10:28.07 | ic3man05 | replace x with numbers |
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| 10:28.20 | ic3man05 | x in rcx.d is runtime level |
| 10:28.30 | ic3man05 | and the Sxx is priority level |
| 10:28.32 | quannum | Do they ADD more new packages / versions With upgrades of stable ??? |
| 10:28.42 | ic3man05 | S10 is launched before S20 |
| 10:28.56 | blondie | quannum: yes, or it wouldn't be an upgrade would it? |
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| 10:29.04 | loxley_ | ic3man05: thats not the debian way update-rc.d is what to use |
| 10:29.30 | rhalff_ | ic3man05, is there a utility to do this automatically ? |
| 10:29.38 | cipherd | hey ic3man05 i don't have /var/named/ even after i've installed dns server |
| 10:29.39 | ic3man05 | loxley_: how do you do this? |
| 10:29.41 | loxley_ | rhalff_: update-rc.d |
| 10:29.44 | cipherd | what might be the problem? |
| 10:29.53 | rhalff_ | loxley_, ah thanks |
| 10:29.58 | ic3man05 | cipherd: never worked with dns servers before |
| 10:30.05 | cipherd | ok |
| 10:30.11 | loxley_ | rhalff_: update-rc.d script default , or man update-rc.d |
| 10:30.23 | cipherd | so. is there anyone who can help with dns servers? |
| 10:31.17 | rhalff_ | loxley_, ah the docs of update-rc.d actually says I'm encouraged to do it myself. odd :p |
| 10:31.38 | ic3man05 | loxley_: this does the same thing as I described, if he is doing a custom script he should understand how init works |
| 10:32.16 | loxley_ | ic3man05: what ever floats the boat :) |
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| 10:33.01 | rhalff_ | I do, but everything is doable by hand, just wanted to know if there is a common way to do it. |
| 10:33.03 | ic3man05 | loxley_: a person that doesn't care to learn what it does then update-rc.d is awesome, but I like knowing what stuff does or it bugs me |
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| 10:33.52 | cipherd | ok ic3man05 is eclipse available with .deb or what can be done to get it? |
| 10:33.56 | ic3man05 | loxley_: I think I might start using it though because I hate deleting and redoing multiple symbolic links |
| 10:33.58 | cipherd | i mean if we have .rpm |
| 10:34.07 | quitte | hi. is it possible with nfsv4 that home directory access can be handled per user? so that just because someone is root on his machine means he can access all users files? |
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| 10:34.33 | rhalff_ | cipherd, if I where you, just install from eclipse.org directly instead of the package |
| 10:34.42 | Coweater | if you want to know what it does just read and understand the script |
| 10:35.19 | ic3man05 | cipherd: it doesn't look like etch has it, but you can go to the homepage of eclipse and they might have a .deb. Otherwise you'll have to compile from source or find an unoffical .deb package |
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| 10:36.14 | quitte | cipherd: you could also try to make a deb from rpm with alien |
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| 10:36.39 | setcode | hello |
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| 10:37.10 | temery | c'est vraiment des lames sur ubun* |
| 10:37.14 | rhalff_ | or throw it in /opt, eclipse upgrades itself, don't need .debs for that. |
| 10:37.19 | cipherd | rhalff_ eclipse.org doesn't have .deb i guess. otherwise xplain what u'r saying |
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| 10:37.34 | setcode | I will run tremulous on my debian but I have error with openGL subsystem, I have xorg7 + nv module, Can I have some help ? |
| 10:37.34 | quannum | why should i choose testing above stable ?? |
| 10:37.37 | sekh` | temery: this is an english speaking channel :p |
| 10:37.42 | loxley_ | !fr |
| 10:37.42 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 10:37.43 | cipherd | quitte it din't work |
| 10:37.52 | sekh` | temery: mais oui, t'as raison :) |
| 10:37.54 | beardy | quannum: Updates of stable are security updates/upgrades, that means that if security problems have been found in a package, it gets patched, and a patched and fixed replacement package becomes available as a security update. No new packages, as in later versions of programs, comes to stable, only security updates of existing packages. |
| 10:38.00 | beardy | !shame blondie |
| 10:38.10 | temery | sekh`> sorry just en keyboard bug |
| 10:38.11 | temery | :/ |
| 10:38.23 | quannum | beardy: ah thats a very good reason :] |
| 10:38.29 | temery | i go to debian-fr |
| 10:38.31 | temery | sorry |
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| 10:38.50 | quannum | beardy: you think they release stable of etch sooner than woody to sarge in the past? |
| 10:39.28 | formorer | yes |
| 10:39.39 | beardy | quannum: I really have no idea. But atleast they said they would. However, it will be released when ready. |
| 10:39.40 | ic3man05 | !tell quannum about wwer |
| 10:40.08 | quannum | beardy: so if i want newer packages and thing i should use testing |
| 10:40.22 | rhalff_ | cipherd, I've installed eclipse in opt http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ , you don't really need debs. and if there are debs, most of the time they are old. |
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| 10:41.05 | rhalff_ | cipherd, and eclipse upgrades it own code, so I don't see how a .deb can be usefull in that case. |
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| 10:41.32 | cipherd | ok rhalff_ thanx |
| 10:41.42 | beardy | quannum: If newer packages are your only priority, you may, yes. But remember that it can have troubles. |
| 10:42.12 | quannum | beardy: i will try out stable than |
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| 10:42.40 | ic3man05 | quannum: note I've had no problems with etch so far |
| 10:42.53 | ic3man05 | knock on wood |
| 10:43.17 | beardy | quannum: Is it a server machine? |
| 10:43.22 | quannum | nope |
| 10:43.26 | quannum | just desktop |
| 10:43.51 | xk | hmmm... i'm having difficulty trying to get X to work on an ATI 9200pro |
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| 10:44.15 | xk | what's the "right" way to get X working on that hardware? |
| 10:44.22 | xxyyzz | Is it possible to run more than one application at a time in the terminal? |
| 10:44.26 | Youpi | xk: I use it on ATI9XXX agp |
| 10:44.32 | rhalff_ | xk, go to the ati site ? :) |
| 10:44.40 | Youpi | no problem under debian sarge |
| 10:44.46 | xk | rhalff: well... a bit hard without X :) |
| 10:44.55 | rhalff_ | xk, lynx |
| 10:45.08 | beardy | quannum: Ok, then you can try etch if you want to, just remember that the release versions names have a reason :) |
| 10:45.10 | xk | well, I'm nto asking "what to do"... I'm asking "how to do it" |
| 10:45.35 | xk | 11 years using linux... and it has to be this difficult? :) |
| 10:45.36 | quannum | beardy: thanks for information so far! apreciated |
| 10:45.56 | xk | Youpi: How did you go about it since hte default driver doesn't appear to work. |
| 10:46.00 | beardy | xk: What is hard without X? |
| 10:46.00 | Youpi | xk: how did you get debian ? |
| 10:46.00 | quannum | but if they release a new stable in about 1 year i would try stable.. |
| 10:46.13 | xk | Youpi: how did I get debian? I installed it in 1997 :) |
| 10:46.29 | Youpi | Perhaps this is the problem, try updating X |
| 10:46.40 | xk | bah, i'm not using the version that was released then |
| 10:46.42 | Youpi | I have both dvd for sarge it works just fine here |
| 10:46.44 | beardy | quannum: If you install etch now, have "etch" in your sources.list, and you will stay on etch when it becomes stable. |
| 10:46.56 | bengrubb | whats the program that is like ftp but ssh into a server |
| 10:46.56 | xk | I'm using sarge. |
| 10:46.56 | Youpi | no special problem unlike mandriva |
| 10:46.57 | bengrubb | i forgot it |
| 10:47.07 | bengrubb | sftp? |
| 10:47.10 | Youpi | and your ati card doesn't work ??? |
| 10:47.21 | xk | Youpi: is hte default driver supposed to work? |
| 10:47.32 | xk | because all I get is a working mouse but a massively corrupted screen |
| 10:47.40 | Youpi | I don't know, I know they are 2 drivers who works |
| 10:47.40 | xk | I can't switch back to console. |
| 10:47.43 | kylen | How to run more that 1 source audio ? |
| 10:47.46 | Youpi | one slow and another optimised |
| 10:47.54 | xk | I don't care for 3d... I just want 2d that works. |
| 10:48.03 | Youpi | both works fine here |
| 10:48.12 | Youpi | ati radeon 9XXX agp |
| 10:48.13 | xk | sigh. |
| 10:48.24 | beardy | quannum: "etch", instead of "testing", in your sources.list, I mean. |
| 10:48.28 | Youpi | but I had problem with my adsl modem due to the irq 11 |
| 10:48.36 | Youpi | chack if you changed your card |
| 10:48.39 | Youpi | check |
| 10:48.44 | xk | eh? |
| 10:48.54 | xk | _check_ what? |
| 10:48.55 | Youpi | irq overload |
| 10:48.56 | xk | please be specific |
| 10:49.00 | xk | doubt it. |
| 10:49.03 | Youpi | I don't know how to translate in english |
| 10:49.17 | Youpi | perhaps another hardware use the irq 11 |
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| 10:49.37 | loxley_ | xk: change the stuff you have in your pci slots |
| 10:49.47 | beardy | xk: What is hard without X? |
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| 10:50.47 | loxley_ | that was pretty cryptic written also.. :) |
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| 10:51.22 | xk | gotta love it when I change hardware... upgrade some stuff and shit breaks ;) |
| 10:51.39 | xk | the good old trusty matrox card worked beautifully. |
| 10:51.46 | ab3l | hi, i see fons in gtk-based apps very small; i built a .gtkrc.mine file but didn't help ; what i can do ? |
| 10:51.57 | Youpi | yes, the problem is to get a working computer |
| 10:52.05 | Youpi | not every hardware are compatible |
| 10:52.34 | xk | what's the point of broken hardware? |
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| 10:52.40 | beardy | Ignoring me huh? Fine then. |
| 10:52.55 | Youpi | nere, this is due to 2 card who chare the same irq. |
| 10:53.04 | Youpi | The driver of the modem do not support that. |
| 10:53.13 | Youpi | this is specific, but that do not work anyway |
| 10:53.21 | ab3l | hi, i see fons in gtk-based apps very small; i built a .gtkrc.mine file but didn't help ; what i can do ? |
| 10:53.37 | xk | beardy: not using X defeats the purpose of solving my issue. |
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| 10:54.01 | Youpi | xk: use xfree instead of x.org |
| 10:54.06 | xk | I am using xfree! |
| 10:54.09 | Youpi | I don't know wich one you use |
| 10:54.19 | Youpi | well, that works, I cannot help you more |
| 10:54.26 | xk | hah. |
| 10:54.28 | beardy | xk: (have to go now..) Tried the vesa driver? /msg dpkg ati |
| 10:54.56 | xk | hrm. |
| 10:55.24 | xk | gotta love vague instructions that much absolutely nothing. |
| 10:55.28 | xk | s/much/mean/ |
| 10:55.35 | beardy | Eh? |
| 10:55.41 | xk | that ati.txt file. |
| 10:55.55 | xk | "configure x to load it"... |
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| 10:55.56 | bengrubb | can you transfer a file to a server using puty? |
| 10:56.04 | bengrubb | putty* |
| 10:56.05 | beardy | bengrubb: yes |
| 10:56.17 | bengrubb | from the computer your on |
| 10:56.20 | beardy | bengrubb: pscp or pftp, IIRC |
| 10:56.24 | ab3l | hi, i see fons in gtk-based apps very small; i built a .gtkrc.mine file but didn't help ; what i can do ? |
| 10:56.34 | beardy | bengrubb: check the putty dir |
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| 10:56.49 | bengrubb | pardon |
| 10:56.57 | bengrubb | i just have a putty.exe |
| 10:57.01 | bengrubb | and on the server ssh |
| 10:57.09 | morten | i get an email from cron every day saying that lost+found isn't empty. but when i do 'ls -a /lost+found' it comes up empty. what to do? |
| 10:57.28 | cavid702 | heelo |
| 10:57.30 | xk | ok, I have fglrx as module installed, and tried the ati driver... but it's looking for the PCI device - i have an AGP card. |
| 10:57.32 | cavid702 | hello |
| 10:58.19 | xk | Now what can I do? |
| 10:58.24 | loxley_ | bengrubb: fetch and try winscp |
| 10:58.32 | cavid702 | r |
| 10:59.06 | cavid702 | e |
| 10:59.20 | xk | weird, even the vesa driver doesn't work. |
| 10:59.42 | bengrubb | beardy: i worked around it stated up a webserver and wgetted the files.. heh |
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| 11:00.22 | darsie | What's wrong with 'apt-file show libc6'? I get no output. |
| 11:00.59 | Coweater | did you apt-file update? (as root) |
| 11:01.07 | darsie | no |
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| 11:01.32 | darsie | Doesn't it use data from apt-get update? |
| 11:01.38 | paulswm | darsie: no |
| 11:01.42 | darsie | hmm |
| 11:01.44 | darsie | ok |
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| 11:02.08 | ma3x | could anyone explain me why the hell do I get this warning everyday ? http://pastebin.com/755262 |
| 11:02.19 | ma3x | is it mandb error or what |
| 11:03.37 | xk | hmm... |
| 11:04.21 | xk | ok... looks like vesa (and radeon) driver don't like Virtual |
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| 11:05.04 | Youpi | xk: this is why mandriva doens't boot here |
| 11:05.17 | ktwilight | what's the difference between apt-file and aptitude search? :/ |
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| 11:06.11 | xk | bleh; i can't live without Virtual, heh. |
| 11:06.33 | kylen | ipfw add allow tcp from any to #debian ;) yo ipfw |
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| 11:07.13 | paulswm | darsie: also, if you want to see results from ONLY the exactly-named libc6 package, then do 'apt-file show -F libc6' or 'apt-file show -x libc6$' (see man apt-file for details) |
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| 11:07.40 | ipfw | kylen: its a long story .. net connection here only dhcp leases for a short time, then I have to renew through a transparent proxy link to validate my new lease, blah blah |
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| 11:08.34 | darsie | paulswm: ok, thx. While doing apt-file update I use packages.debian.org (or so). |
| 11:09.00 | paulswm | darsie: just 'apt-file update' is all |
| 11:09.33 | darsie | yeah, but it appearently needs to download a lot. |
| 11:09.44 | paulswm | darsie: Yes, it does |
| 11:09.46 | darsie | and has no progress indicator. |
| 11:10.11 | paulswm | darsie: What speed is your connection? |
| 11:10.24 | darsie | 80 kbyte/s |
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| 11:11.00 | paulswm | darsie: watch a movie :P |
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| 11:11.05 | darsie | hehe |
| 11:12.11 | wii_apache | I am trying to get my apache server working. I can access the server pages only from my computer. I cannot access it from outside. Can anyone help me? |
| 11:12.42 | wii_apache | debian testing |
| 11:13.46 | Youpi | wii_apache: this is why we call it testing |
| 11:14.08 | wii_apache | huh? |
| 11:14.28 | wii_apache | that is a strange form of testing. |
| 11:14.40 | Youpi | this is a trap :P |
| 11:14.58 | wii_apache | Youpi, are you serious? |
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| 11:15.03 | Youpi | wii_apache: no |
| 11:15.05 | paulswm | darsie: While you're waiting, read the manpage for apt-file, and also you can set up apt-file (via /etc/apt-file.conf) to use wget instead of curl to DL, I think that'll give you a progress indicator. I've not done that though, and the comments on the conf file are not very helpful - I suspect that changing http in the curl section to http2 from http and changing wget section from http2 to http will do the trick. |
| 11:15.15 | wii_apache | Youpi, you got me freaked out for a second. |
| 11:15.18 | darsie | It's done already. |
| 11:15.18 | Youpi | testing release are not made to be use in a productive environment |
| 11:15.22 | paulswm | darsie: I mean /etc/apt/apt-file.conf |
| 11:15.26 | Youpi | they are bugs |
| 11:15.34 | wii_apache | oh no, I am not using it for productive environment. |
| 11:16.00 | wii_apache | Youpi, I would imagine that if I can access the server from local system, I can access it from anywhere. |
| 11:16.23 | darsie | What a coincidence. there are 2048 files in libc6?! |
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| 11:17.08 | paulswm | darsie: the slow apt-file update is designed to get you prepared for the slow execution of apt-file show/search :P |
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| 11:17.13 | Youpi | darsie: 2049 indeed, but we had delete one |
| 11:17.13 | Youpi | :) |
| 11:17.31 | Youpi | find wich function is missing :P |
| 11:17.46 | MoonPatrol | what should i do if when i try to use modprobe, it says "invalid module format" even though ive used the same kernel sources and all |
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| 11:24.29 | MoonPatrol | oh man, im screwed then |
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| 11:27.08 | xk | Youpi: Finally solved it! |
| 11:27.28 | Youpi | xk: You have gone at church ? |
| 11:28.12 | Youpi | or at the computer shop to buy windows ? |
| 11:28.13 | Youpi | :) |
| 11:28.23 | xk | Youpi: it's really funny how I got it to work. |
| 11:28.29 | Youpi | tell me |
| 11:28.37 | xk | I added an invalid Mode of 1600x1200, then re-added Virtual of 1600 1200, NOW IT WORKS. |
| 11:28.53 | Youpi | yes ,strange |
| 11:28.57 | Youpi | if that works |
| 11:29.01 | xk | but it worked without that hack before. |
| 11:29.05 | Youpi | God Bless |
| 11:29.30 | Youpi | take care about random runs |
| 11:29.34 | xk | ;) |
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| 11:29.44 | Youpi | this is like going in amazonia without gps |
| 11:30.22 | xk | hmm... i have no idea why the fglrx driver didn't work at all. |
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| 11:30.28 | xk | it just couldn't find the hardware. |
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| 11:32.58 | Kenvelo | does anyone know what character set is used for the filenames in reiserfs? |
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| 11:33.01 | morten | i get an email from cron every day saying that lost+found isn't empty. but when i do 'ls -a /lost+found' it comes up empty. what to do? |
| 11:33.44 | abrotman | there is a lost+found for each partition |
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| 11:34.46 | Kenvelo | anyone knows what character reiserfs uses? |
| 11:35.11 | morten | abrotman: it's notifying me about /lost+found |
| 11:35.42 | morten | abrotman: but all my lost+found dirs are empty |
| 11:35.56 | abrotman | are the mails dated from today? |
| 11:36.15 | morten | abrotman: i get one every day. including today. |
| 11:36.38 | xk | morten: does the email list the files? |
| 11:36.48 | xk | if so, do find / -name "blah |
| 11:36.54 | morten | xk: yes. a long list of files in the format #[numbers] |
| 11:36.56 | xk | " |
| 11:37.12 | blondie | !shame beardy |
| 11:37.35 | morten | hang on a second. these mails were from my laptop. that explains it. |
| 11:37.40 | xk | lol |
| 11:37.57 | abrotman | !smack morten |
| 11:37.59 | morten | yea, my laptop has a bunch of files in /lost+found. would bad things happen if i just deleted them? |
| 11:38.13 | abrotman | morten: have you ever used DOS? |
| 11:38.15 | xk | might be a good idea to check what those files are. |
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| 11:38.29 | xk | and not to just power off hte laptop without a proper shutdown |
| 11:38.38 | morten | abrotman: i used DOS quite a bit back in the early 90s. |
| 11:38.39 | abrotman | morten: which partition are they from? |
| 11:38.40 | morten | why? |
| 11:38.46 | morten | abrotman: / |
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| 11:38.58 | abrotman | anything in them? |
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| 11:39.08 | morten | abrotman: how to check? nano? |
| 11:39.16 | xk | file * |
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| 11:40.01 | abrotman | cat? |
| 11:40.19 | blondie | mew! |
| 11:40.30 | Kenvelo | you can use mc also |
| 11:40.36 | Kenvelo | has an editor/viewer |
| 11:40.40 | Kenvelo | can do hex also |
| 11:40.53 | morten | abrotman: file seems to return some info on them |
| 11:41.09 | Kenvelo | yes, it looks after signatures |
| 11:41.17 | abrotman | morten: are they binary or text? |
| 11:41.29 | blondie | Xorg sux0r :( |
| 11:41.39 | abrotman | works great for me! |
| 11:41.45 | blondie | 15% constant CPU usage |
| 11:41.46 | abrotman | uh oh |
| 11:41.47 | morten | abrotman: /lost+found/#66260: gzip compressed data, was "XwcDrawString.3x", from Unix, max compression |
| 11:41.55 | bengrubb | may i say that cacti is brilliant! |
| 11:42.03 | morten | for instance. doesn't tell me anything. maybe you can make sense of it. |
| 11:42.26 | Kenvelo | if you decompress it, maybe you can figure it out |
| 11:42.29 | abrotman | though .. i guess a saturday is better than a tuesday :) |
| 11:42.30 | xk | morten: looks like a lost man page. |
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| 11:42.52 | morten | xk - any way to automatically restore all the info from these files to where it's supposed to be? |
| 11:43.10 | xk | hmm... I wouldn't do that. |
| 11:43.16 | morten | because? |
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| 11:43.26 | xk | because 99% of hte time you don't know where they came from. |
| 11:43.34 | morten | what should i do, then? |
| 11:44.02 | abrotman | make sure nothing imporatnt is there first) |
| 11:44.03 | abrotman | :) |
| 11:44.11 | xk | well... if you didn't notice it before, then it looks like nothing is important ;) |
| 11:44.19 | morten | abrotman: there's like 350 files. should i check them all manually? |
| 11:44.29 | abrotman | morten: yay for shell scripts? :) |
| 11:44.35 | morten | meaning? |
| 11:44.44 | morten | i'm in over my head. help me out :( |
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| 11:45.02 | abrotman | morner_: run file on a few more .. |
| 11:45.03 | xk | check each file individually... if it's a text file that you created and you recognise it, keep it. |
| 11:45.03 | blondie | abrotman: hmm! |
| 11:45.16 | xk | if it's a conf file you were editting and now know where it went, keep it. |
| 11:45.18 | abrotman | blondie: i'm so getting ready to spend the day at the console :) |
| 11:45.23 | xk | if it's binary... may aswell as toss it out. |
| 11:45.33 | morten | xk: what's the easiest way to check them? |
| 11:45.39 | abrotman | since your system has been working without it :) |
| 11:45.39 | xk | morten: mc? |
| 11:45.49 | morten | mc? |
| 11:45.50 | xk | file and mc I guess ;) |
| 11:46.00 | xk | apt-get install mc, it's what us old dos users used to use :) |
| 11:46.27 | xk | well, the original anyway |
| 11:46.30 | abrotman | yay norton commander! |
| 11:46.33 | morten | hmm |
| 11:46.47 | petemc | xtree gold ftw |
| 11:46.53 | xk | heh. |
| 11:47.00 | xk | directory opus, amiga styles. |
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| 11:47.21 | morten | xk - if the file is unknown, should i just delete it? |
| 11:47.30 | morten | will it have been restored, or is it missing from my system? |
| 11:47.39 | xk | unknown... view it with mc... if it looks like binary garbage... get rid of it. |
| 11:47.43 | morten | i've had some difficulties with the harddrive on this laptop. i think it took some physical abuse. |
| 11:47.50 | xk | morten: nah, missing from system. |
| 11:47.55 | morten | xk: okay, but if file returns a filename? |
| 11:48.23 | xk | it does return a filename? hmm... that's probably a result of gzip... might give you a hint where it belonged. |
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| 11:48.32 | aidan | how hard is it to convert a large application (I dunno, say, 20k LOC), to 64bit? What are the issues involved? |
| 11:48.34 | morten | xk: so i should put it back where it belongs? |
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| 11:48.45 | abrotman | 20,000 is large? |
| 11:48.54 | xk | morten: if it's a manpage, not really necessary unless it's relevent to what you use. |
| 11:48.59 | aidan | abrotman: this isn't a e-penis competition |
| 11:49.08 | abrotman | aidan: now it is! |
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| 11:49.18 | morten | xk: how do i restore them? tar doesn't seem to wanna touch them. |
| 11:49.30 | STiKi- | Hello. |
| 11:49.30 | morten | even tho file lists it as gzip compressed data |
| 11:49.34 | STiKi- | Did somebody find a kbootsplash package? |
| 11:49.39 | aidan | I could have said 100 gazillion LOC and someone would say "oh that's not large", sigh |
| 11:49.40 | xk | heh. dpkg --search <FILENAME> and it should return the location. |
| 11:49.43 | STiKi- | Can't find it anywhere:/ |
| 11:49.59 | blondie | what kernel type should I install on an AMD Turion 64? K8? |
| 11:50.03 | xk | morten: that's if it has a filename that gzip'd stored. |
| 11:50.06 | abrotman | aidan: do you have a primary target platform ? |
| 11:50.08 | blondie | oh there isn't a k8 |
| 11:50.33 | morten | xk: how do i uncompress this file? |
| 11:50.43 | xk | gunzip #123123131 |
| 11:50.56 | abrotman | zless ? |
| 11:50.57 | aidan | abrotman: not at all, I purchased software and they're only providing it in 32bit, they're not interested in providing a 64bit version so I thought I'd do my research before I write an email about how lazy they are |
| 11:51.01 | paulswm | aidan: As every program can be reduced in size by at least one line of code, and every program contains at least one undiscovered bug, one can infer that any program can be reduced to one line of code which doesn't work, so get to it! :P |
| 11:51.30 | morten | xk: unknown suffix -- ignored :( |
| 11:51.46 | abrotman | aidan: oh .. gotcha .. but you'd want it for amd pure64 ? or something else? |
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| 11:52.01 | xk | hmm... not sure why you want to uncompress it - view it with zless I guess, or with mc. |
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| 11:52.30 | aidan | abrotman: yep |
| 11:53.34 | abrotman | aidan: the best people to ask might be the folks in #debian-amd64 .. or perhaps even #c .. is the program even written in C/C++ ? |
| 11:53.42 | aidan | abrotman: yes, in C, you're right that's probably a better place to ask |
| 11:53.47 | aidan | thanks :) |
| 11:54.09 | abrotman | aidan: afaik .. assuming it's well coded .. shouldn't be hard at all |
| 11:54.34 | abrotman | yay .. op died! |
| 11:54.46 | morten | who? |
| 11:55.08 | abrotman | xk is a channel op .. or was last i looked |
| 11:55.12 | morten | lulz |
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| 11:55.59 | blondie | why does upgrading xserver-xorg on etch want to remove gnome and gdm :| |
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| 11:56.12 | abrotman | blondie: didn't for me |
| 11:56.12 | xk | weird... it's the "radeon" kernel driver that's causing my issue; "fglrx" works fine. |
| 11:56.21 | blondie | it's being very mean to me |
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| 11:56.51 | paulswm | blondie: using aptitude? if so, see what apt-get says |
| 11:56.51 | morten | xk: now i've figured out how to view the contents of these files. should i bother trying to restore them all to their original locations, or should i just see if there's anything that's personally important to me? |
| 11:57.01 | blondie | paulswm: no, using apt-get |
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| 11:57.16 | xk | morten: just look for personal files. |
| 11:57.36 | morten | xk: what about all the rest? couldn't there be rather important system files in there? |
| 11:57.50 | abrotman | blondie: will you hold me when this x7 dies? |
| 11:58.03 | xk | probably... but only if you were writing them (installed/upgraded some packages then had your issues?) |
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| 11:58.28 | morten | xk: these files aren't related to the harddrive problems i've been having? |
| 11:58.30 | paulswm | blondie: I'm caught in xorg/nvidia dependency hell in etch if I want to upgrade to xorg 7.0 |
| 11:58.35 | FredNeuberger | Hi |
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| 12:00.12 | xk | morten: hmm.. i'm leaning towards no. |
| 12:00.39 | xk | did you ever turn off the laptop without a proper shutdown? |
| 12:00.51 | xk | or lose power suddenly? |
| 12:00.59 | kylen | How to run more than 1 source audio ? to play xmms and vlc and recort to audacity ? |
| 12:01.11 | blondie | paulswm: I'm only trying 6.9.... though I hope the slightly newer version it's installing works better than the one I had |
| 12:01.16 | morten | xk: i've forced shutdown a couple of times, due to complete lockups |
| 12:01.25 | xk | ok, that would cause it. |
| 12:01.28 | FredNeuberger | I still have the proble, that /usr/share/doc/libhal1/README is damaged and looks like a directory (with a size of 2GB). lsattr shows no output and fsck -f doesn't find any errors. I've searched google many times without a result. Can someone give me a hint? |
| 12:01.43 | xk | you should use the magic key sequence (if enabled) if you do that ;) |
| 12:01.59 | morten | xk: what would the magic key sequence be, and how is it enabled? |
| 12:02.08 | xk | control-alt-sysrq s then u then b. |
| 12:02.17 | morten | sysrq? |
| 12:02.31 | xk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.39 | xk | nto sure if it's enabled in a default kernel. |
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| 12:02.54 | xk | sysrq / printscreen key. |
| 12:03.25 | abrotman | blondie: that was EASY! |
| 12:03.30 | blondie | o.o |
| 12:03.32 | blondie | what was? |
| 12:03.33 | morten | rite. i guess i'll test it some time. |
| 12:03.38 | morten | when i need to. |
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| 12:03.48 | paulswm | blondie: He upgraded to x7 |
| 12:03.56 | blondie | "oh" |
| 12:03.58 | xk | morten: I always use it when system locks up, and 99% of the time, my data is saved. |
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| 12:04.22 | xk | oskie: like today when trying to get my graphics card working ;) |
| 12:04.25 | xk | er, ie rather |
| 12:04.30 | PenguinL0v3r | hello |
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| 12:05.38 | PenguinL0v3r | hi all! |
| 12:06.24 | PenguinL0v3r | I have a question to ask. |
| 12:06.34 | PenguinL0v3r | about "cdrecord" |
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| 12:06.49 | quannum | PenguinL0v3r: ? |
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| 12:07.19 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, I burnt an ISO CD image using "cdrecord" |
| 12:07.28 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, but the disk was empty |
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| 12:07.36 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, after the write |
| 12:07.37 | Lestat_Be | hi :) |
| 12:07.47 | quannum | PenguinL0v3r: what command did you use ? |
| 12:08.00 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, pls hold on. I'll copy and paste |
| 12:08.13 | Lestat_Be | is it a way to copy busy files? (and if yes doing it by ftp?) |
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| 12:08.38 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc debian-testing-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 12:09.14 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, this was the command I used. |
| 12:10.04 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: You didn't see any error messages? |
| 12:10.08 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, did you burn an CD using "cdrecord" directly? |
| 12:10.27 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, I saw a few warning messages but It took some times to burn the CD |
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| 12:10.42 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, but after that, CD was found to be empty. |
| 12:11.33 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: How did you check it was empty? Did you mount it? |
| 12:11.38 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, later I used K3b and It was ok. |
| 12:11.51 | PenguinL0v3r | quannum, of cause, it was mounted. if not, how to burn? |
| 12:12.09 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: It weas me, not quannum, who asked you |
| 12:12.20 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: And you don't mount a CD to burn it |
| 12:12.21 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, so sorry |
| 12:12.35 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, yes I did not mount it |
| 12:12.55 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, but somehow "cdrecord" automatically detect it |
| 12:13.03 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, oh i see what you meant |
| 12:13.07 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: :) |
| 12:13.07 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, ok ok |
| 12:13.23 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, let me mount it :) |
| 12:13.23 | cahoot | you'd have serious trouble mounting a blank cd anyway |
| 12:13.33 | paulswm | cahoot: No shit :) |
| 12:13.35 | GoAuLd | !xgl |
| 12:13.36 | dpkg | it has been said that xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
| 12:13.48 | redblades | Hi, If I have a script, is there any way to make it a binary? |
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| 12:13.59 | redblades | I want to put it in /bin |
| 12:14.18 | cahoot | paulswm: but I suspect some hacker have solved that too of course |
| 12:14.19 | nkuttler | redblades: just put it in ~/local/bin or /usr/local/bin/ |
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| 12:14.45 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, Ha Ha Ha |
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| 12:14.53 | nkuttler | redblades: no need to make a "binary" |
| 12:14.56 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, my friend, my mistake |
| 12:15.03 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: np |
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| 12:15.11 | DaBlade | Hello. Does anyone else have the same problem as me? |
| 12:15.11 | DaBlade | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2275487 |
| 12:15.13 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, it was ok and I did not mount it |
| 12:15.23 | redblades | but, wont I have to type sh all the time? |
| 12:15.28 | paulswm | !win PenguinL0v3r |
| 12:15.31 | dpkg | Congratulations, PenguinL0v3r! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 12:15.40 | PenguinL0v3r | haahaha |
| 12:15.42 | PenguinL0v3r | thank you |
| 12:15.42 | redblades | !spam |
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| 12:15.42 | dpkg | it has been said that spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
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| 12:15.48 | redblades | lol |
| 12:15.56 | redblades | !Monty Python |
| 12:15.57 | dpkg | hmm... monty python is horribly unfunny and yet somehow genius I DON'T LIKE SPAM! |
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| 12:16.01 | DaBlade | Hmm... |
| 12:16.10 | redblades | unfunny? |
| 12:16.18 | DaBlade | Can anyone please help me out? My problem is described here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2275487 |
| 12:16.18 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, anyway, thank you for reminding me. |
| 12:16.18 | redblades | HOW DARE YOU! |
| 12:16.19 | redblades | lol |
| 12:16.23 | nkuttler | redblades: chmod +x it |
| 12:16.32 | redblades | ??? |
| 12:16.40 | nomed | hi all |
| 12:16.41 | redblades | I'm not sure I understand |
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| 12:17.01 | paulswm | PenguinL0v3r: You're welcome - that's a good feeling when you discover that things worked as you'd hoped :) |
| 12:17.04 | morten | xk: what's the quickest way to delete all the files in lost+found? |
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| 12:17.17 | morten | i've looked through them all, and didn't find anything personal |
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| 12:17.20 | nomed | anyone knows if there is any doc about how to set-up buildd ? |
| 12:17.38 | PenguinL0v3r | paulswm, thank you for your nice words too. anyway, good day and bye all! |
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| 12:18.10 | Petfrogg | hello |
| 12:18.25 | nicoco | hi i'm trying to write a shell script that replaces the value of a variable with 2 digits. for instance, 5 becomes 05 and 85 stays 85. thx |
| 12:18.51 | Petfrogg | i think my brain refuses to wake up - i have installed apache 2 i have decommeted the lines in apache2.conf about /home/*/public_html |
| 12:19.00 | Petfrogg | still i can access the url |
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| 12:19.18 | xk | nicoco: easy! printf "%02d" $VAR |
| 12:19.20 | stew | nicoco: printf "%02d" $foo |
| 12:19.21 | nomed | Petfrogg, check the apache2.conf itself |
| 12:19.21 | Petfrogg | should i somehow chmod the public_html and the users folder? |
| 12:19.31 | morten | xk: how do i delete the contents of lost+found? |
| 12:19.32 | nomed | it's documented .. |
| 12:19.35 | nomed | on that file |
| 12:19.45 | xk | morten: I would use mc for that. |
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| 12:20.04 | N4SK3 | I just did a fresh install of debian sarge, running gdm and fluxbox, now i want to make idesk start automaticly on startup, but there's no '.fluxbox/startup' file. Where can i add 'idesk &' Can anyone help me with this? |
| 12:20.05 | xk | + key then F8 ;) |
| 12:20.19 | xk | or "insert" key them individually. |
| 12:20.19 | nomed | in what irc chan of debian should i ask infos for buildd ? |
| 12:20.22 | morten | you really have a hardon for this mc, don't you? |
| 12:20.40 | nicoco | printf "%02d" $foo transforms "2" into "22"... is it normal ? |
| 12:21.07 | morten | but i'm not sure i get what you mean. would it be safe to delete the directory, and then just make a new one? |
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| 12:21.28 | PinNoCchIo | hello all |
| 12:21.46 | stew | nicoco: doesn't for me. no that is not normal |
| 12:22.00 | netman1 | Hi All. How do I automatically start a second X server on vt8 wich starts an application in stead of gdm? |
| 12:22.04 | DaBlade | At the risk of repeating myself too much: |
| 12:22.09 | PinNoCchIo | can someone help me with a XF86Config-4 configuration? |
| 12:22.12 | DaBlade | Can anyone please help me out with this problem? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2275487 |
| 12:22.20 | nicoco | ok i'll check my script |
| 12:22.23 | nicoco | thanks !! |
| 12:22.29 | netman1 | PinNoCchIo: Don't ask, just ask. |
| 12:22.33 | stew | DaBlade: check http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
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| 12:23.12 | PinNoCchIo | cant get my tv-out to work, i have managed before with ati now i have nvidia graficcard with nvidia drivers |
| 12:23.13 | DaBlade | stew: Thanks |
| 12:23.21 | morten | guys, how do i delete a bunch of files, quick and easy? |
| 12:23.31 | abrotman | rm |
| 12:23.37 | morten | i wanna delete all the files in a directory, without touching the directory itself |
| 12:23.42 | sussudio | hammer? |
| 12:23.46 | morten | abrotman: we're talking about 350 files. i'm not doing that one by one. |
| 12:23.51 | PinNoCchIo | and strange thing is that i dont get any errors loading the twinview "clone" ect.. options |
| 12:23.51 | sussudio | oh, forget the hammer then. |
| 12:23.52 | DaBlade | morten: cd directory;rm -rf * |
| 12:24.11 | brownie17 | morten think go into the directroy and use a wildcard to delete them, as in "cd /directroy; sudo rm -R * |
| 12:24.12 | PinNoCchIo | only error i get at end of config is Error signal 11 or something like that |
| 12:24.27 | abrotman | brownie17: eh ... |
| 12:24.47 | N4SK3 | I just did a fresh install of debian sarge, running gdm and fluxbox, now i want to make idesk start automaticly on startup, but there's no '.fluxbox/startup' file. Where can i add 'idesk &' ? |
| 12:24.50 | brownie17 | abrotman, might not be the easiest, but it'll probably work. or i'm retarded |
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| 12:25.08 | nicoco | it works but not inside of my script (stills returns 2 instead of 02)... |
| 12:25.19 | netman1 | PinNoCchIo: are there any kernel version restrictions/recomendations on the nvidia driver? |
| 12:25.25 | brownie17 | abrotman, that gonna work? |
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| 12:25.35 | morten | DaBlade brownie17: thanks |
| 12:25.40 | Lestat_Be | bye |
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| 12:26.02 | brownie17 | DaBlade, what's -rf do? the same as -R? |
| 12:26.05 | nicoco | i got it sorry |
| 12:26.08 | PinNoCchIo | <netman1> dont know, but everything beside from tv-out works directrendering ect... |
| 12:26.10 | nicoco | bye |
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| 12:26.48 | abrotman | brownie17: sure .. why not .. what's the worst that happens |
| 12:26.50 | DaBlade | brownie17, I think the -f means force |
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| 12:27.20 | PinNoCchIo | it also loads the twinview options with out any errors then at end it tells me that an error accured "signal 11" shutting down |
| 12:27.35 | czikenator | look on my button: http://czikenator.kom.pl/pliki/debian.png :D |
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| 12:27.51 | PinNoCchIo | if i pul out the tv plug it loads into x with no errors |
| 12:28.00 | PinNoCchIo | with same configuration |
| 12:28.06 | PinNoCchIo | ? |
| 12:28.16 | PinNoCchIo | ill post my configuration |
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| 12:30.29 | PinNoCchIo | http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=333 |
| 12:31.02 | PinNoCchIo | #Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50" normaly withou the # |
| 12:31.06 | N4SK3 | I just did a fresh install of debian sarge, running gdm and fluxbox, now i want to make idesk start automaticly on startup, but there's no '.fluxbox/startup' file. Where can i add 'idesk &' then ? thanks in advance |
| 12:32.00 | N4SK3 | I configured idesk completely its just thefact of starting it automaticly |
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| 12:32.56 | PinNoCchIo | also i tried Option "TVOutFormat" "S-VIDEO" -> COMPOSITE |
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| 12:33.24 | oracle_ | hi all |
| 12:34.09 | PinNoCchIo | http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=333 |
| 12:34.24 | PinNoCchIo | my X configuration |
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| 12:36.02 | oracle_ | I cant kill all squid instances |
| 12:36.07 | oracle_ | I have so many |
| 12:36.13 | nix | i've a harddisk which gives errors on some sectors. how can I have dd read all the data it can still read but NOT break when it gets a bad sector error? or is there another tool besides dd for this? |
| 12:36.21 | oracle_ | how can I surely kill them? |
| 12:36.34 | oracle_ | kill -9 is not working |
| 12:36.34 | PinNoCchIo | also i have tried to split up the screens and devices in screen 0 and screen 1 but same Fatal server error: Caught signal 11 |
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| 12:37.02 | PinNoCchIo | like mentioned only if tv is pluged in |
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| 12:37.25 | brownie17 | can someone tell me why i am getting this message "sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found" |
| 12:37.55 | dvs | brownie17: sudo doesn't use the PATH that root has |
| 12:38.06 | brownie17 | dvs, so use su? |
| 12:38.11 | PinNoCchIo | <brownie17> sudo: - the : |
| 12:38.18 | dvs | brownie17: specify the entire path |
| 12:38.41 | brownie17 | dvs, well i don't know the entire path |
| 12:38.44 | stew | brownie17: try sudo -i |
| 12:39.03 | brownie17 | dvs, stew PinNoCchIo su works fine, don't worry |
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| 12:41.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:41.16 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:41.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's hilarious i've done what you suggested, and now read this |
| 12:41.51 | abrotman | read what? |
| 12:41.58 | abrotman | how does tarzeau always know when i'm here? |
| 12:42.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=258301 |
| 12:42.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: how are these people who write such shit? |
| 12:42.54 | PinNoCchIo | someone help me, am i forgetting some essential option...? stupid tv-out just does not work http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=333 |
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| 12:43.07 | tarzeau | are these lawyers-without-limits-working-for-free-without-live? |
| 12:43.10 | tarzeau | life |
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| 12:44.12 | tdsch | PinNoCchIo: what vidcard? |
| 12:44.39 | PinNoCchIo | nvidia geforce ti300 or geforce 4 mx/go |
| 12:44.52 | PinNoCchIo | all the same |
| 12:44.53 | blondie | ARGH |
| 12:44.59 | blondie | X has a spaz and reboots laptop |
| 12:45.24 | sussudio | i hate nvidia a lot. |
| 12:45.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: i think you explained it .. let that guy continue if he wants .. |
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| 12:45.44 | tdsch | PinNoCchIo: neither of those cards supports Twinview |
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| 12:46.11 | tdsch | PinNoCchIo: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-g.html |
| 12:46.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: just make sure the bug is marked resolved |
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| 12:46.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: it is |
| 12:46.40 | abrotman | tarzeau: then let that guy submit crap all he wants |
| 12:47.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: and what about the briquolo rc bug? |
| 12:47.11 | abrotman | which one? |
| 12:47.31 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362897 |
| 12:47.33 | brownie17 | hey guys, if i say "sudo cmod 777 foo" will it accept it as a octal? |
| 12:47.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: moment |
| 12:47.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: it only happens with the shit free software drivers... |
| 12:47.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: let me read it |
| 12:47.48 | tarzeau | that nobody but those two guys use |
| 12:47.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: i have free drivers from xorg .. works fine here |
| 12:48.02 | PinNoCchIo | but according to the text my card should support twinview? |
| 12:48.08 | PinNoCchIo | no? |
| 12:48.15 | PinNoCchIo | --> and any of the GeForce4 |
| 12:48.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: so it's some ati dri shitness |
| 12:48.45 | abrotman | tarzeau: can't tell if it's ati or nv or something else |
| 12:49.16 | brownie17 | everytime i try to run "Barrage" one of my favourite games, it tells me i could not find a sound card or some crap. now i used to get this problem with ubuntu breezy, but not with hoary. |
| 12:49.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: they both seem to imply it's a sound issue .. not a video issue |
| 12:49.24 | PinNoCchIo | dri is not loaded |
| 12:49.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've gotten a mail from him, i'm looking for and attaching to the bts |
| 12:49.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: hmmm |
| 12:49.56 | Poulina | brownie17: try #ubuntu |
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| 12:50.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: one guy can't open /SDL-Mixer .. the other can't get /dev/sequencer |
| 12:51.03 | PinNoCchIo | i also tried to configure the display device as a separate X screen and got same error |
| 12:51.06 | brownie17 | Poulina, it's not an ubuntu problem, did you actually read my message? i'm still getting the error in debian |
| 12:51.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: maybe ask #libsdl .. or whatever it is .. or even ask upstream |
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| 12:51.41 | Poulina | brownie17: try chmod 666 /dev/mix |
| 12:51.48 | abrotman | no |
| 12:51.52 | abrotman | that's not right |
| 12:52.01 | abrotman | add yourself to the audio group .. do it the correct way |
| 12:52.28 | brownie17 | Poulina, 666, that sounds a little suspect, are you sure you're not trying something funny here? joke |
| 12:52.30 | PinNoCchIo | is it possible that there is a difference how i connect up to TV "direct chinch input in the front of the tV" or over scart on the back? |
| 12:52.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: 14:52 [gnu] -!- Cannot join to channel #sdl (You have joined to too many channels) |
| 12:52.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: so quit #gnustep |
| 12:52.59 | brownie17 | Poulina, "chmod: cannot access `/dev/mix': No such file or directory" |
| 12:53.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: at least i get one more slot when #debian moves finally over to oftc |
| 12:53.03 | Poulina | brownie17: that allow every user to write / read the device |
| 12:53.15 | PinNoCchIo | i have a adapter chinch->scard |
| 12:53.18 | Poulina | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.26 | Poulina | your soundcard device |
| 12:53.29 | PinNoCchIo | *.scart |
| 12:53.39 | abrotman | brownie17: please go to #ubuntu |
| 12:53.57 | abrotman | Poulina: go to #ubuntu with him if you want to help |
| 12:54.15 | brownie17 | abrotman, are you serious? what for? i hope you're joking. once bloody mention of ubuntu and everyone's on my case for being in the wrong room. I AM USING DEBIAN |
| 12:54.30 | Poulina | brownie17: ubuntu is better ;) |
| 12:54.41 | abrotman | brownie17: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 12:54.47 | brownie17 | Poulina, i don't think you're wrong, but i'm not changing back now |
| 12:54.59 | blondie | Poulina: get out! |
| 12:54.59 | tdsch | PinNoCchIo: try SVIDEO instead of S-VIDEO, try NvAGP "0" |
| 12:54.59 | brownie17 | abrotman, what will that do? |
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| 12:55.22 | Poulina | brownie17: any distro are almost the same, the differencies are from the config and the way to install packages. |
| 12:55.33 | PinNoCchIo | <tdsch> okay i will, thank u maybe that will solve it |
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| 12:55.52 | abrotman | brownie17: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 12:56.17 | PinNoCchIo | <tdsch> but will the option "NvAGP" "0" Option not conflict with openGL games? |
| 12:56.19 | abrotman | brownie17: you're using hoary .. which is NOT debian |
| 12:56.25 | brownie17 | abrotman, can you at least tell me what it might do? that better not be revenge for me being impatient with you |
| 12:56.42 | abrotman | brownie17: i assure you .. it's nothing evil |
| 12:56.56 | stew | brownie17: it will tell us what version of the c libraries you have which will tell us what version of debian you are on |
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| 12:57.18 | tdsch | PinNoCchIo: just try SVIDEO 1st, if that doesnt work then disabled NvAGP, if that doesnt work, check with your manufacturer to see if it is actually a twinview card |
| 12:57.31 | brownie17 | abrotman, "ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone" |
| 12:57.40 | brownie17 | abrotman, did you not beleive i was on debian? |
| 12:57.56 | abrotman | brownie17> everytime i try to run "Barrage" one of my favourite games, it tells me i could not find a sound card or some crap. now i used to get this problem with ubuntu breezy, but not with hoary. |
| 12:58.13 | abrotman | brownie17: NOW .. add yourself to the audio group |
| 12:58.29 | stew | brownie17: add the user to the audio group, don't change permissions |
| 12:58.53 | brownie17 | abrotman, okay, will do |
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| 13:01.47 | blondie | sigh, Xorg is still using 15-30% CPU :( |
| 13:02.09 | Poulina | what is your cpu type ? |
| 13:02.19 | blondie | a turion |
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| 13:03.40 | abrotman | blondie: i say .. X just isn't working hard enough for you! |
| 13:04.23 | blondie | it doesn't like my laptop |
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| 13:04.42 | blondie | lucky it's dual boot with XP ;) |
| 13:05.52 | abrotman | apparently on my box.. X uses less juice than udevd :) |
| 13:06.24 | xk | hm |
| 13:06.42 | abrotman | blondie: you can't find out why? .. have you asked when gravity was here? |
| 13:06.52 | blondie | I don't remember |
| 13:07.01 | blondie | I don't know how to find out why :( |
| 13:07.05 | blondie | there's no errors in the log |
| 13:07.16 | blondie | it happens with either gnome or xfce |
| 13:07.31 | abrotman | which driver? |
| 13:07.33 | blondie | I just log in, open a terminal and run top, and see high CPU usage for Xorg |
| 13:07.35 | blondie | ati |
| 13:07.43 | abrotman | fglrx? or ati ? |
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| 13:08.13 | rdz | hi all. how can i mount my win-partition with write-permissions? |
| 13:08.22 | rdz | mount -w won't help |
| 13:08.24 | abrotman | ntfs ? |
| 13:08.27 | Maulkin | rdz: is it fat32 or ntfs? |
| 13:08.28 | rdz | no, vfat |
| 13:08.34 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 13:08.34 | rdz | fat32 |
| 13:08.34 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 13:08.48 | blondie | abrotman: "ati" |
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| 13:09.02 | abrotman | blondie: nothing in the BTS ? |
| 13:09.17 | rdz | thanks guys |
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| 13:10.12 | MoDaX | blondie: try other driver, e.g. vesa or fglrx |
| 13:10.25 | abrotman | blondie: see if the same load is there with vesa |
| 13:10.31 | abrotman | damn you mnodax! |
| 13:10.34 | abrotman | damn you keyboard! |
| 13:10.48 | MoDaX | :) |
| 13:11.07 | aa | on my fat 32 (vfat mounted) partition I have full ownership (uid & gid = <me>) and the umask is 000 but there are still some directories to which I don't have write access, while most I do. can anyone advise? |
| 13:11.09 | abrotman | blondie: what ati card is it ? |
| 13:11.34 | valdyn | aa: that does not make sense |
| 13:11.56 | MoDaX | aa: fsck.vfat /dev/partition |
| 13:12.10 | aa | I can change the permissions on the offending directories but I don't understand how they ended up not having write permission. Surely fat32 can't store permissions? |
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| 13:12.53 | valdyn | aa: that isnt vfat if you can change permissions |
| 13:13.15 | aa | i don't think it is an integrity problem. I can change the permissions on the directories then do anything I want to them, including deleting them. |
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| 13:14.07 | aa | the partition is: /dev/hda5 6375 12125 46194876 b W95 FAT32 |
| 13:14.57 | valdyn | aa: df | grep hda5 |
| 13:14.58 | Kenvelo | where are the crontab logs? |
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| 13:15.28 | aa | and I'm trying to delete (selectively) a few directories. many I can write to no problem. |
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| 13:15.38 | aa | : /dev/hda5 46172288 19889552 26282736 44% /mnt/hda5 |
| 13:15.52 | abrotman | Kenvelo: logs of what? |
| 13:16.06 | MoDaX | aa: files and directories can be marked as read-only on windows. maybe you have problems with those? |
| 13:16.15 | Kenvelo | crontab |
| 13:16.20 | abrotman | no kidding .. of what? |
| 13:16.28 | abrotman | errors from your jobs? or just that they ran |
| 13:16.28 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:16.28 | Kenvelo | some scripts I wrote |
| 13:16.40 | Kenvelo | no, I just think they didn't run |
| 13:16.44 | valdyn | aa: 'mount | grep hda5' |
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| 13:16.48 | Kenvelo | I thought crontab had a log or something |
| 13:17.00 | Kenvelo | about not being able to execute jobs |
| 13:17.08 | MoDaX | Kenvelo: some info goes to syslog |
| 13:17.19 | mijndert | Hi there :) When I put for example Irssi in a screen session, and after that get it to active, how do I screen Irssi after that? (Sorry for my bad English, don't know how to formulate this sentence) |
| 13:17.23 | abrotman | Kenvelo: syslog |
| 13:17.41 | Kenvelo | ok |
| 13:18.28 | valdyn | mijndert: wat is 'get it to active' supposed to mean? |
| 13:18.31 | aa | MoDaX: sounds quite possible. is there a way to force mount to ignore the read only status and allow me to delete them? Or do I have to actually take away their read only status on the file system? |
| 13:18.34 | Maulkin | mijndert: Erm... do you want to reconnect to irssi after you've disconnected? |
| 13:18.44 | aa | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.46 | mijndert | valdyn: erm un-screen? :P |
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| 13:19.04 | Maulkin | mijndert: ahh (crontrol+a d) |
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| 13:19.12 | Maulkin | mijndert: man screen :) |
| 13:19.36 | mijndert | Maulkin: I know, but I didn't get those hehe. Thanks :) |
| 13:19.56 | Maulkin | mijndert: also "control+a ?" |
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| 13:20.30 | mijndert | Maulkin: dunno :P |
| 13:20.49 | vandamme | hello everybody, i've a problem i've freshly installed debian (FIST TIME) and i've no audio... in conifg i read alsa emulation :how do i fix audio ? |
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| 13:21.09 | valdyn | vandamme: uname -r |
| 13:21.19 | blondie | abrotman: hmm, removing the weird umlaut from A in this line helped: Option "AccelMethod" "exa" |
| 13:21.32 | abrotman | umlaut ? |
| 13:21.45 | vandamme | valdyn : returned 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 13:21.50 | blondie | one of those pointless accents |
| 13:21.51 | valdyn | !alsa |
| 13:21.51 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/ |
| 13:21.57 | valdyn | !alsa 2.6 |
| 13:21.57 | dpkg | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 13:21.58 | blondie | : rotated 90 degrees |
| 13:22.01 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 13:22.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 13:22.07 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 13:22.08 | dpkg | it has been said that alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 13:22.17 | abrotman | that should get you started :) |
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| 13:23.20 | c0_bT | hiii |
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| 13:24.25 | MoDaX | aa: sorry, I don't know |
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| 13:26.30 | blondie | abrotman: you know what? it's bloody gnoem terminal that makes Xorg use all that CPU |
| 13:26.30 | redblades | Anyone here use XMMS ? |
| 13:26.32 | aa | Thanks for your help, everyone. I think it was a read only directory problem. I've just chmod-ed my way out of the problem for the moment. Not perfect really- would rather have preserved permissions as they were & just deleted a few dirs. |
| 13:26.41 | abrotman | blondie: oh .. i don't use gnome terminal |
| 13:26.44 | aa | MoDoX: no worries. ta. |
| 13:26.47 | abrotman | redblades: just ask |
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| 13:27.04 | abrotman | blondie: should i try it |
| 13:27.05 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:27.10 | redblades | Okay, hwo do I use XMMS to make an HTML playlist? |
| 13:27.24 | redblades | (much like Winamp does) |
| 13:27.25 | blondie | abrotman: probably not, though I like it better than just xterm (on my other machine) |
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| 13:27.47 | abrotman | blondie: doen't do it here |
| 13:27.55 | abrotman | redblades: ask #xmms |
| 13:27.56 | blondie | doesn't do it on my desktop either |
| 13:28.04 | blondie | how do you change xterm's font size? |
| 13:28.20 | abrotman | eh ... man xterm? :) |
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| 13:28.32 | blondie | bah |
| 13:28.43 | abrotman | don't kill! |
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| 13:28.59 | abrotman | blondie: are you running screen in it too ? |
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| 13:29.23 | blondie | abrotman: no |
| 13:29.27 | blondie | !ntp |
| 13:29.27 | dpkg | methinks ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 13:29.29 | Stevie | At the sound of the ping the time will be Sat Jun 03 09:29:28 2006 *ping* |
| 13:29.30 | voxluna | I'm SSHing into a box to run Mondo, and my screen graphics aren't lines... instead they're Euros and other extended alpha characters. I've tried changing emulation but to no avail. How can I fix this? |
| 13:29.30 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362598 |
| 13:29.37 | abrotman | Stevie: STOP DOING THAT |
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| 13:29.58 | abrotman | Stevie: i will personally drive down there .. and beat you senseless :) |
| 13:29.59 | blondie | what a tard! |
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| 13:30.48 | abrotman | blondie: i vote you file a bug |
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| 13:32.24 | blondie | hm |
| 13:33.06 | Quibus | wow, so Xorg 7.0 got into testing :-) |
| 13:33.22 | blondie | orly |
| 13:33.29 | redblades | Umm... No answer from #xmms |
| 13:33.32 | vandamme | valdyn : still no audio |
| 13:33.38 | dvs | uh oh |
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| 13:34.14 | abrotman | dvs: worked great for me .. except trying to get opera reinstalled after i had to purge it to complete the upgrade |
| 13:34.24 | abrotman | but since opera isn't in debian .. i don't mind too much :) |
| 13:34.44 | dvs | abrotman: oh what the heck. I have nothing better to do today. |
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| 13:35.00 | abrotman | dvs: that's what i said ... better today than on tuesday |
| 13:35.11 | dvs | abrotman: what's going on on Tuesday? |
| 13:35.29 | abrotman | dvs: usually work |
| 13:35.37 | dvs | O I C |
| 13:35.45 | abrotman | O DO U ? |
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| 13:36.08 | MoDaX | :) |
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| 13:38.52 | SerajewelKS | which xserver-xorg-video-* package provides the nonfree nvidia driver? |
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| 13:39.01 | vandamme | other things i can do / check ? |
| 13:39.36 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: are you serious? |
| 13:39.37 | valdyn | vandamme: tell us what exactly isnt working and which error messages or erratic behavour you are getting |
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| 13:39.54 | vandamme | i get no error absolutely no error but i hear NO sound |
| 13:39.56 | vandamme | that's all |
| 13:40.01 | sussi | i dont have hardware acceleration under etch xorg7 for my ati 9800 |
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| 13:40.18 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: xserver-xorg-core depends on xserver-xorg-video |
| 13:40.21 | sussi | is there a special requierment? |
| 13:40.23 | valdyn | vandamme: ls -l /proc/asound |
| 13:40.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: as i am using the nonfree driver, i would thing that satisfies some dependency, but it does not seem to |
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| 13:41.01 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: think too |
| 13:41.05 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: eh .. that'll teach you to buy hardware that only works with non-free drivers! |
| 13:41.07 | vandamme | what i ve to llok for in that output ? |
| 13:41.20 | Quibus | sussi: check the fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src package in unstable/non-free |
| 13:41.25 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: or mark xserver-xorg hold |
| 13:41.26 | valdyn | vandamme: you dont, you let us look |
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| 13:41.31 | valdyn | !tell vandamme -about paste |
| 13:41.33 | PinNoCchIo | I am still trying to get TV-OUT working with my Geforce Ti300/mx/go, Nvidia driver are installed and work 100% with direct rendering support. |
| 13:41.43 | PinNoCchIo | here my XF86Config-4 |
| 13:41.45 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: the -nv package? |
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| 13:41.55 | PinNoCchIo | http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=334 |
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| 13:41.59 | PinNoCchIo | and here the log |
| 13:42.03 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: that is the free driver, no? |
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| 13:42.09 | PinNoCchIo | http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=335 |
| 13:42.09 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:42.15 | valdyn | vandamme: 'ls -l /dev/dsp', paste the output |
| 13:42.21 | PinNoCchIo | please help me |
| 13:42.22 | sussi | i dont use fglrx anymore, was not announced that xorg7 hav it as well? |
| 13:42.24 | body | hello |
| 13:42.29 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i don't own(and hpoefully never will) a single piece of nvidia hardware |
| 13:42.49 | Quibus | sussi: fglrx is ATI's proprietary driver |
| 13:42.50 | body | i cannot install mc |
| 13:42.54 | body | any suggestions? |
| 13:43.07 | valdyn | body: fix it |
| 13:43.09 | PinNoCchIo | <abrotman> yes but u have to admit that installing flgrx is a litle more complicated then nvidia drivers |
| 13:43.17 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: then i would assume you are not qualified to answer my question... |
| 13:43.19 | valdyn | body: or give us serious information we can work with |
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| 13:43.34 | abrotman | PinNoCchIo: i don't own ATI stuff either .. so i don't have to admit shit ... |
| 13:43.44 | vandamme | valdyn : crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-06-03 15:35 /dev/dsp |
| 13:43.50 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: damn right! .. am i really qualified to answer any question? :P) |
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| 13:44.07 | SerajewelKS | thankfully i have not dist-upgraded yet, but if the dependency situation will do what i think it will do, then this update will break the nonfree driver |
| 13:44.13 | PinNoCchIo | <abrotman> asking what u are usaing out of interest |
| 13:44.14 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: have you checked the wiki ? |
| 13:44.16 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: or rather, were you ever qualified ;) |
| 13:44.24 | valdyn | vandamme: as root: 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp', tell the output, abort it with Ctrl-C |
| 13:44.26 | body | i ve posted the eror |
| 13:44.30 | body | on flood |
| 13:44.41 | abrotman | PinNoCchIo: the intel chip on my laptop :) |
| 13:44.46 | PinNoCchIo | okay |
| 13:44.47 | PinNoCchIo | :) |
| 13:45.03 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: yeah! .. i think |
| 13:45.15 | valdyn | vandamme: paste the contents of /proc/asound/devices too, but not in this channel |
| 13:45.17 | abrotman | PinNoCchIo: i have a PS2 to play video games |
| 13:45.17 | vandamme | typing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp eanters a prompt |
| 13:45.25 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: and no i have not checked the wiki, because it appears to be down |
| 13:45.34 | valdyn | vandamme: eh? |
| 13:45.37 | abrotman | no way .. i looked a bit ago |
| 13:45.39 | PinNoCchIo | yes but what is with online games? mods and so on? |
| 13:45.43 | abrotman | GAH |
| 13:45.48 | body | so/ |
| 13:45.49 | body | ? |
| 13:45.51 | abrotman | Maulkin: put it back! |
| 13:45.51 | PinNoCchIo | i would miss that sometimes |
| 13:45.55 | SerajewelKS | !tell body about enter |
| 13:45.55 | vandamme | it than let me write butprints out nothing |
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| 13:46.13 | valdyn | vandamme: that looks like its working |
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| 13:46.29 | SerajewelKS | where is gravity when you need him/her |
| 13:46.46 | abrotman | sleeping ? |
| 13:46.46 | valdyn | vandamme: now turn up your volume, fix your cabling, and paste the contents of /proc/asound/cards ( NOT HERE ) |
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| 13:46.57 | valdyn | vandamme: ops: now turn up your volume, fix your cabling, and paste the contents of /proc/asound/devices ( NOT HERE ) |
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| 13:47.23 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: bah, how can DDs sleep these days |
| 13:47.27 | PinNoCchIo | http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=334 and http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=335 = WHY, WHY?? |
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| 13:47.56 | vandamme | volume is up cabling is ok |
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| 13:48.14 | valdyn | vandamme: do you have issues pasting? |
| 13:48.21 | vandamme | ? |
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| 13:48.38 | valdyn | vandamme: still dont have your /proc/asound/devices |
| 13:48.42 | PinNoCchIo | also under init 3 i get picture on TV but not in X |
| 13:48.49 | PinNoCchIo | so connection is okay |
| 13:48.54 | vandamme | it's in #flood |
| 13:48.57 | PinNoCchIo | is this a bug? |
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| 13:49.11 | SnF | hi lads |
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| 13:49.23 | dvs | Hey! It worked! |
| 13:49.26 | SnF | can anyone suggest a Linux OS for security penetration testing and network security? |
| 13:49.27 | valdyn | vandamme: you forgot to unmute? |
| 13:49.28 | vandamme | 1. 0: [0- 0]: ctl |
| 13:49.37 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: if there were a decent video card that had completely open, accelerated drivers and didn't cost twice what nvidia costs for the same speed, i'd buy it |
| 13:49.39 | vandamme | 2. 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback |
| 13:49.42 | valdyn | vandamme: i saw it in #flood, no reason to paste here either way |
| 13:49.43 | vandamme | it's unmuted |
| 13:49.44 | gilianima | comment calculer log2(256) ? |
| 13:49.45 | PinNoCchIo | or am i a noob, guess last one is more likely |
| 13:50.03 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: decent for what task? |
| 13:50.20 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: closed source, proprietary games, of course |
| 13:50.28 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: the intel card i have is ok .. but i've not tried many games on it |
| 13:50.36 | valdyn | vandamme: 'cat /dev/urandom | aplay' should be playing too |
| 13:50.59 | valdyn | vandamme: your sound is ok, as it seems, your cabling and/or volume settings are not |
| 13:51.02 | PinNoCchIo | <SerajewelKS> voodoo 3 plus old pci graficcard = about 20 ? ebay |
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| 13:51.19 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: though games is the one area i'm willing to buy closed-source as there's a lot of creative effort going into the artwork and such |
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| 13:51.24 | vandamme | cabling is ok (rebboting to redmond audio works fine) |
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| 13:51.30 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: get a PS2 |
| 13:51.41 | PinNoCchIo | nono get microsoft xbox |
| 13:51.42 | vandamme | volume is in troubl |
| 13:51.45 | Space_Ace | Hi - I'm tryin' to install X on an "etch"; gives me an error saying that no screens are available ... what could it be? |
| 13:51.49 | vandamme | but not for muting |
| 13:51.49 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: PS2 doesn't run guild wars last i checked |
| 13:51.58 | abrotman | Space_Ace: check the error log in /var/log/ |
| 13:52.07 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: PS2 runs linux ..! |
| 13:52.20 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: so does this box i'm using now |
| 13:52.24 | vandamme | even in windows this f**** card requires a option "docked speakers" turned on otherways get no sound |
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| 13:52.50 | abrotman | ask #alsa ? |
| 13:53.02 | Space_Ace | ok - I'll be back later |
| 13:53.04 | valdyn | vandamme: are you using an alsa mixer? |
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| 13:53.11 | vandamme | yes |
| 13:53.12 | valdyn | vandamme: which mixer tool are you using? |
| 13:53.15 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: get another video card! |
| 13:53.22 | valdyn | vandamme: for volume control? |
| 13:53.24 | redblades | If I am searching a document, is there a wildcard? |
| 13:53.41 | PinNoCchIo | Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0 ? |
| 13:53.44 | vandamme | alsamixer |
| 13:53.46 | abrotman | searching a document ? |
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| 13:53.50 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: do you have any suggestions that don't involve me spending money? ;) |
| 13:53.57 | abrotman | is there a name to this editor ? |
| 13:53.58 | vandamme | (in terminal) |
| 13:54.02 | eXistenZ | hello, what might cause this error in the cups error log "PID 5770 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3!" |
| 13:54.06 | redblades | gedit |
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| 13:54.23 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: well .. if you're willing to whore yourself out .. i'm sure you oculd find something without spending money :) |
| 13:54.23 | valdyn | vandamme: paste the output of amixer in flood too |
| 13:54.38 | abrotman | redblades: * ? |
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| 13:54.50 | redblades | okay |
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| 13:55.13 | eXistenZ | anyone? |
| 13:55.14 | eXistenZ | :| |
| 13:55.15 | Maulkin | abrotman: WTF? |
| 13:55.19 | redblades | nope |
| 13:55.25 | abrotman | Maulkin: the wiki went poof again! |
| 13:55.36 | Maulkin | abrotman: Bah. Not my fault |
| 13:55.38 | redblades | abrotman, * not a wildcard |
| 13:55.41 | abrotman | Maulkin: now it's back |
| 13:55.45 | abrotman | Maulkin: i know .. i was joking |
| 13:55.48 | Maulkin | :) |
| 13:55.50 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: wiki has returned |
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| 13:55.59 | abrotman | redblades: maybe dont' use anything? |
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| 13:56.30 | PinNoCchIo | maybe i should try nvtv , yes? |
| 13:56.40 | stew | Maulkin: i'm a dork. i diffed backwards |
| 13:56.45 | vandamme | pasted |
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| 13:56.48 | pale_horse | how do I fix this error: E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package libglu1-xorg due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 13:56.48 | pale_horse | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libglu1-xorg |
| 13:57.09 | abrotman | pale_horse: man apt-get .. man dpkg |
| 13:57.14 | valdyn | !find i810_audio |
| 13:57.19 | valdyn | !find i810_audio.ko |
| 13:57.32 | blondie | what the hell is going on with my PC's clock |
| 13:57.33 | redblades | abrotman, do you know of a text editor that allows wild cards? |
| 13:57.40 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'i810_audio' (3 of 18): (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-486. |
| 13:57.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'i810_audio.ko' (3 of 10): (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-686/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-486/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.16-2-486. |
| 13:57.45 | blondie | it keeps drifting into the future :( |
| 13:57.52 | blondie | it's gained 20 minutes in 10 minutes :( |
| 13:58.08 | abrotman | redblades: i'm sure gedit does |
| 13:58.10 | valdyn | vandamme: which sound hardware is this? intel? |
| 13:58.18 | abrotman | blondie: use ntp |
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| 13:58.30 | thingfish | clock problems are often caused by a CMOS battery going dead, but I've never heard of a clock gaining time. |
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| 13:58.49 | blondie | it doesn't happen when it's booted into Windows |
| 13:58.55 | vandamme | no |
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| 13:58.59 | vandamme | Yamaha XWAVE ### T20 (based on Ess 1988-89 Allegro -1 ) |
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| 13:59.12 | [Bart] | blondie : I have the same problem on a lot of intel servers |
| 13:59.24 | redblades | abrotman, I read the help files |
| 13:59.31 | redblades | I don't see it |
| 13:59.32 | stew | pale_horse: what does "apt-cache policy libglu1-xorg" say for Installed: and Candidate: ? |
| 13:59.35 | abrotman | redblades: give me an example |
| 13:59.37 | blondie | abrotman: I have ntp running |
| 13:59.43 | redblades | of what? |
| 13:59.45 | stew | pale_horse: and what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:59.57 | vandamme | Valdyn :: Yamaha XWAVE ### T20 (based on Ess 1988-89 Allegro -1 ) |
| 14:00.07 | abrotman | of why you can't figure out wildcards .. if you need to find "qwerty" and you search for "qwer" .. it will find it |
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| 14:00.12 | PumpkinPie | is it true movie film used for the big screen can only be used once? |
| 14:00.20 | pale_horse | stew libglu1-xorg: |
| 14:00.20 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.20 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.20 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.20 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:00.23 | redblades | I need to do a find and replace |
| 14:00.24 | blondie | PumpkinPie: of course |
| 14:00.26 | PumpkinPie | ah you damn paster |
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| 14:00.32 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: it's film |
| 14:00.33 | blondie | PumpkinPie: it's the same as any other film! |
| 14:00.37 | possie_ | i'm using time to measure how long certain processes take, but i see real,user and sys, but sometimes i get values like real = 0m0.530s user = 0m0.000s sys 0m0.008s so this means that my process toke 0.53 seconds, 0 seconds where spent in user-mode, and 0.008 seconds where spent in kernel-mode, correct? but what was the process doing the rest of the time then? where did it spent it's execution? |
| 14:00.38 | hjubal | hi |
| 14:00.43 | PumpkinPie | why is it like that ? |
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| 14:00.52 | abrotman | possie_: man time |
| 14:01.05 | blondie | grrr I was going to lunch... but I forgot |
| 14:01.07 | PumpkinPie | a projector can accept VGA image |
| 14:01.07 | abrotman | man 1 time |
| 14:01.16 | blondie | PumpkinPie: because it's FILM? |
| 14:01.23 | blondie | what kind of question is that |
| 14:01.25 | pale_horse | stew did you get that ? |
| 14:01.25 | abrotman | PumpkinPie: it's not related to debian .. find another channel to ask stupid questions |
| 14:01.26 | PumpkinPie | why is it film? |
| 14:01.37 | stew | !tell pale_horse about flood |
| 14:01.38 | stew | pale_horse: yes |
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| 14:01.54 | stew | pale_horse: what version of debian are you running? what command were you typing? |
| 14:02.14 | pale_horse | debian = elive 0.4.2 |
| 14:02.16 | valdyn | vandamme: im not sure if you could have still have an OSS module loaded, so you could reboot to get rid of it, or figure out which one it is manually with lsmod |
| 14:02.18 | abrotman | hahaha |
| 14:02.19 | pale_horse | etch |
| 14:02.24 | abrotman | pale_horse: elive is NOT debian |
| 14:02.32 | pale_horse | command is apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:02.46 | pale_horse | debian repos |
| 14:02.54 | pale_horse | etch actually |
| 14:03.02 | abrotman | pale_horse: ask in #elive |
| 14:03.15 | vandamme | Valdyn ; see flood |
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| 14:03.55 | jetscreamer | abrotman: last night, all i saw typing here were names i've never seen.. omg |
| 14:04.18 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i was here |
| 14:04.18 | abrotman | jetscreamer: or you mean after i went to bed? |
| 14:04.18 | valdyn | vandamme: OSS drivers contain 'audio' |
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| 14:04.32 | valdyn | vandamme: while you did lsmod | grep snd ? |
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| 14:05.31 | vandamme | the word auido is not in |
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| 14:06.21 | valdyn | vandamme: as root : 'update-pciids && lsmod | grep -i audio' |
| 14:06.23 | abrotman | both of them |
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| 14:06.47 | abrotman | holy poo .. it's SynrG |
| 14:06.48 | valdyn | vandamme: geez, no, i meant 'update-pciids && lspci | grep -i audio' |
| 14:06.54 | SynrG | heya abrotman |
| 14:06.56 | SynrG | yes, it's me |
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| 14:07.09 | abrotman | SynrG: i haven't seen you at seul in a *long* time |
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| 14:07.13 | SynrG | abrotman: mako's in town and i'm meeting him this afternoon |
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| 14:07.19 | liable | hola |
| 14:07.24 | Zap2k | Hi. I am getting this message when a script of mine tries to send an email. "Mailing to remote domains not supported". My exim4 program was configured using a standard setup for debian with "allow local mail only". Now I am wondering if there is an easy setting that I can change to allow mail to be sent to other email adresses (for example a list of domains). |
| 14:07.29 | abrotman | SynrG: you should have seen me the other day trying to remember your wife's name :) |
| 14:07.31 | vandamme | returns Done. |
| 14:07.32 | vandamme | 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 10) |
| 14:07.39 | SynrG | abrotman: Ariannah |
| 14:07.40 | abrotman | SynrG: and ales/arma were just making fun of me .. no help! |
| 14:07.41 | stew | Zap2k: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 14:07.46 | SynrG | abrotman: heh |
| 14:07.51 | SynrG | abrotman: well, it's not a common name |
| 14:07.56 | abrotman | i know .. oh well |
| 14:07.57 | liable | Zap2k: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 14:08.04 | liable | !lose me |
| 14:08.05 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 14:08.12 | abrotman | oh my .. there's Ariannah too! |
| 14:08.19 | abrotman | it's a canadian invasion! |
| 14:08.20 | Zap2k | stew, I am not sure if the other options are suitable for my system... I dont want it to become an open smtp, I just want it to be able to send to a few domains. |
| 14:08.23 | entuall | hello |
| 14:08.25 | Ariannah | yep |
| 14:08.26 | Ariannah | hi |
| 14:08.27 | liable | dpkg: you lag |
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| 14:08.40 | SynrG | abrotman: hehe |
| 14:08.40 | stew | Zap2k: you won't become an open relay |
| 14:08.59 | SynrG | we could do that |
| 14:09.00 | possie_ | abrotman, reading the man page, i'm trying out something like: time -f "%E real,%U user,%S sys" ls -Fs |
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| 14:09.16 | abrotman | SynrG: they might all fall over :) |
| 14:09.23 | SynrG | abrotman: which network? |
| 14:09.24 | possie_ | abrotman, but this results in the following error saying: -bash: -f: command not found |
| 14:09.36 | abrotman | SynrG: irc.seul .. same as before |
| 14:09.38 | nicoco | hi again i'm trying to write a shell that executes a condition only if $line doesn't start with an '#'... |
| 14:09.56 | liable | nicoco: /j #bash |
| 14:10.11 | nicoco | ok thx |
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| 14:11.15 | Zap2k | Stew: so if I choose "internet site: mail is sent and received directly using smtp" then it will not automaticly become an open-relay? |
| 14:11.18 | kyncani | possie: /usr/bin/time ... |
| 14:11.21 | vandamme | Valdyn ::-> 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 10) |
| 14:11.31 | stew | Zap2k: correct |
| 14:11.34 | valdyn | vandamme: yea, its this error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/439 |
| 14:11.47 | vandamme | ? |
| 14:11.49 | stew | possie_: "help time" |
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| 14:12.10 | valdyn | vandamme: the added fix doesnt fix that though |
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| 14:12.38 | DimmuR | is it possible to remove all configuration data of deinstalled packages (status: rc) via dpkg? |
| 14:12.48 | valdyn | vandamme: its possible that you have several sound jacks and a different one is used |
| 14:12.55 | Zap2k | stew: thanks, I'll check it out then. |
| 14:12.55 | possie_ | stew, LOL :-) |
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| 14:14.00 | vandamme | Valdyn ::->what i do ? |
| 14:14.17 | abrotman | possie_: that is weird |
| 14:14.35 | valdyn | vandamme: try your other sound jacks |
| 14:14.50 | vandamme | u mean cable ???? |
| 14:14.53 | valdyn | vandamme: line in/line out/mic, guess you should have 3 |
| 14:14.57 | possie_ | abrotman, that command i just gave you is straight out of the man page it self ;- |
| 14:15.02 | valdyn | vandamme: yea |
| 14:15.54 | kyncani | possie_: the manpage refers to /usr/bin/time, not bash builtin function time |
| 14:16.07 | valdyn | vandamme: i cant imagine a card outputing to no jack at all or requiring a switch 'docked speakers?' to play anything at all |
| 14:16.10 | abrotman | possie_: does it for me too |
| 14:16.41 | vandamme | it requires the "docked speakers" in windows though |
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| 14:16.47 | Zap2k | Guys, how can I see which public port are open on my system? I know that I can use "nmap localhost" but the ports that are displayed as open here are not neccessary open to the public. |
| 14:16.56 | stew | Zap2k: /msg dpkg open ports |
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| 14:17.10 | valdyn | vandamme: yea exactly, that doesnt make sense |
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| 14:17.14 | jetscreamer | error in control file: `Index' value missing for format `info' at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 709, </usr/share/doc-base/multiboot> line 13. |
| 14:17.23 | abrotman | possie_: that's weird |
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| 14:17.45 | jetscreamer | Can't list /var/lib/python-support/python2.4 |
| 14:17.57 | possie_ | abrotman, so did you knew the answer to my question anyways? cause i can't find it in the man page |
| 14:18.17 | abrotman | possie_: the explanation of the vlaues should be in there |
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| 14:18.53 | jetscreamer | sounds like a path problem to me |
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| 14:19.02 | jetscreamer | cant find program |
| 14:19.06 | valdyn | vandamme: let me know when you tried that, im out of ideas though, your card seems to work for almost everyone using it |
| 14:19.16 | abrotman | possie_: real is clock time ... system is kernel time .. user is other |
| 14:19.24 | stew | possie_: the rest of you time your process wait waiting for its turn to get executed while your machine was doing other things |
| 14:19.25 | abrotman | possie_: or something like that |
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| 14:19.31 | vandamme | in the other jack outputs a tremendously bad sound |
| 14:19.38 | vandamme | but i works though |
| 14:19.45 | vandamme | (very very disturbed) |
| 14:19.47 | vandamme | though |
| 14:19.48 | possie_ | stew, ahhh thanks |
| 14:19.58 | possie_ | stew, then it was wait *verry* long :-) |
| 14:20.10 | possie_ | stew, if it just spent 0.008seconds in kernel mode |
| 14:20.40 | efge | hi, I'm looking for the config file where rotation of /var/log/mail.log is specified. It's not in /etc/logrotate.d/* nor /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 14:20.59 | valdyn | vandamme: capture volume might have to do with that, or the wrong frequency you are sending at it ( how did you test sound? ) |
| 14:21.02 | efge | I can't see where rotation of /var/log/syslog & co is specified either... |
| 14:21.29 | valdyn | vandamme: aplay will be default yield _bad_ sound anyway, using those 8000hz only |
| 14:21.43 | vandamme | no i'm listedning an mp3 |
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| 14:22.06 | Zap2k | stew: thanks, works great. |
| 14:22.39 | pyroplasm | efge: see /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
| 14:23.02 | valdyn | vandamme: you can use aplay to see if it has something to do with the sound specs ( sample rate ) |
| 14:23.07 | efge | pyroplasm: thanks but this only does /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf |
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| 14:23.29 | abrotman | efge: /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd |
| 14:24.03 | efge | abrotman: aha thanks, syslog does its own rotation... |
| 14:24.17 | abrotman | efge: yep |
| 14:24.23 | valdyn | vandamme: uh, i hope you aborted your 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' btw, _that_ would cause nice 'disturbanc' ;) |
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| 14:25.10 | vandamme | it'saborted |
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| 14:25.46 | vandamme | i'm ill' try rebooting and see if it changes ;) |
| 14:25.51 | vandamme | see later |
| 14:26.07 | aidan | where can I find more information about dotdeb? |
| 14:26.24 | abrotman | what about dotdeb? |
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| 14:26.29 | formorer | aidan: please don't the packages are bad an incompatible to debians packaging |
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| 14:26.45 | abrotman | formorer: next line "too late" :) |
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| 14:26.51 | boodie | hildi: as I said before, trying to install & launch X gave me an error "no screens found" ... |
| 14:27.25 | aidan | formorer: they're completely integrated with apt, how do you mean? I wouldn't use dotdeb if debian included a reasonable version of PHP in sarge |
| 14:27.51 | aidan | abrotman: the release notes, my mysql server seems to be locking up, I'm pondering if this new release fixes that |
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| 14:28.13 | stew | !dotdeb is also there is little reason to use dotdeb.org now that backported versions of php and mysql are available from backports.org. ask me about <backports> and <backports.org> |
| 14:28.13 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 14:28.33 | abrotman | aidan: so you have mysql from dotdeb? and it's broken ? |
| 14:28.48 | aidan | stew: ah kickarse. |
| 14:28.49 | formorer | aidan: use bpo |
| 14:29.05 | boodie | what could a "no screens found" mean to X - I have an ATI Radeon on PCI express ... none of the card listed by xf86config |
| 14:29.17 | aidan | abrotman: not broken, every million requests it seems to lock up and needs a hard reset |
| 14:29.20 | formorer | aidan: they are badly integrated to the rest of debian and are not very good packages. At all: they are bad |
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| 14:29.40 | aidan | "million" is by no means reproducable, just a guess at the timescale |
| 14:29.57 | aidan | formorer: I agree, I didn't know there was an alternative |
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| 14:30.16 | abrotman | aidan: sounds broken .. though .. it is mysql .. maybe that's normal :) |
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| 14:31.03 | kyncani | !tell boodie about drxx |
| 14:31.18 | aidan | abrotman: hehe |
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| 14:31.40 | Mr_Molez | is there a debian tool to configure network ? |
| 14:31.52 | abrotman | Mr_Molez: which part of it? |
| 14:31.57 | abrotman | !tell Mr_Molez about interfaces |
| 14:32.05 | bengrubb | cant you just edit it manually.. |
| 14:32.09 | abrotman | there's some curses interface |
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| 14:32.44 | formorer | aidan: now you know one |
| 14:32.58 | vandamme | Valdyn : nothing to do: bad sound on line out : no sound with speakr out |
| 14:33.03 | formorer | aidan: and btw. I had backports since woody times available :) |
| 14:33.15 | jetscreamer | man xmms is kinda fu'd in sid |
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| 14:33.40 | bengrubb | Mr_Molez: cant ya just edit /etc/network/interfaces and be done with it or is it like a batch thing your doin' |
| 14:33.54 | Maulkin | man xmms seems to work for me |
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| 14:34.14 | jetscreamer | funny |
| 14:34.23 | liable | haha?? |
| 14:34.34 | liable | :P |
| 14:34.37 | jetscreamer | i do ctrl d and get a black square and 102%cpu usage |
| 14:34.46 | jetscreamer | and i can't close it |
| 14:34.57 | stoned | I cannot live without amarok anymore, nothing else satisfies my needs |
| 14:35.00 | stoned | :/ |
| 14:35.00 | bengrubb | heh |
| 14:35.08 | aidan | formorer: I asked in here about 6 months ago, dotdeb was the only response. I'm very glad there's a more stable alternative :) |
| 14:35.09 | abrotman | stoned: isn't that a music player? |
| 14:35.13 | stoned | amarok has spoiled me |
| 14:35.16 | aidan | I can't do without php5.1 |
| 14:35.20 | stoned | abrotman, yes it is, and plus some |
| 14:35.20 | jetscreamer | it's jammin though |
| 14:35.24 | Maulkin | jetscreamer: Could be your skin |
| 14:35.26 | stoned | hey jetscreamer |
| 14:35.28 | abrotman | stoned: do you realize how many music players are in debian ? |
| 14:35.35 | stoned | abrotman, tons I'm sure |
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| 14:35.38 | jetscreamer | default. i just del'd the .xmms also |
| 14:35.52 | abrotman | stoned: you've try quod libet .. which seems to be everyone's favorite at the moment |
| 14:36.07 | liable | huh? |
| 14:36.19 | stoned | abrotman, I'll look into it, but seriously though, amarok has spoiled me |
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| 14:36.24 | jetscreamer | !clue liable |
| 14:36.35 | liable | aces high |
| 14:36.54 | jetscreamer | heh it didn't go to track2 though |
| 14:37.13 | abrotman | stoned: rhythmbox is ok |
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| 14:37.22 | abrotman | stoned: zinf .. |
| 14:37.23 | stoned | abrotman, thanks mate |
| 14:37.34 | abrotman | stoned: of course .. i know more GTK/Gnome apps than others |
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| 14:37.46 | jetscreamer | xmms 92%cpu usage in top |
| 14:37.48 | stoned | I used to use beep before xmms and then I learned of amarok |
| 14:37.50 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 14:38.08 | aidan | how do I swap between my dotdebs and backports? I've removed the dotdeb lines, added the backports lines, can I safely apt-get -t sarge-backports install php5 |
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| 14:38.34 | stoned | aidan, yes |
| 14:38.42 | liable | not unless you change apt.conf |
| 14:38.50 | jetscreamer | it seems to function properly till i do ctrl d |
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| 14:39.02 | aidan | liable: what am I changing in that file? |
| 14:39.16 | stoned | although the xmms search function is 10x faster on the same amount of files as in amarok |
| 14:39.26 | stoned | you know the Jump inside playlist window |
| 14:39.53 | liable | aidan: your preferences, chech backports home page |
| 14:40.09 | aidan | oh, done that |
| 14:40.22 | trampel | does anyone have a clue for me why an upgrade (testing) this morning would kill all my emacs fonts? "font * not defined" (thank you in anycase) -sigh- |
| 14:40.50 | stoned | trampel, do you use apt-get listbugs? |
| 14:40.56 | stoned | doh, listbugs |
| 14:41.00 | stoned | er.. apt-listbugs |
| 14:41.02 | stoned | goddamit |
| 14:41.19 | stoned | use it if you don't. also have you checked the BTS? |
| 14:41.22 | trampel | no.... i've never heard of that (he said sheeplishly) |
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| 14:41.36 | stoned | trampel, apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 14:41.44 | stoned | very useful on non-sarge systems |
| 14:41.49 | Craigevil | apt-listbugs shows any bugs before installing anything |
| 14:41.51 | trampel | i'll do it. thank you! |
| 14:42.01 | Craigevil | it will save you a lot of problems |
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| 14:42.10 | trampel | too late for this one, it seems |
| 14:42.18 | liable | maybe |
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| 14:42.22 | stoned | maybe not |
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| 14:42.59 | Craigevil | you can always use dpkg to downgrade to the last working version |
| 14:43.02 | stoned | trampel, I dunno but have you tried to regenerate the fonit cache |
| 14:43.07 | abrotman | !tell root_ about root |
| 14:43.19 | stoned | trampel, with fontconfig that is |
| 14:43.25 | jetscreamer | !shoot root |
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| 14:43.35 | trampel | hmmm.... "Couldn't find package apt-listbugs" |
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| 14:43.47 | stoned | is it not in testing? |
| 14:43.51 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:43.52 | jetscreamer | !info apt-listbugs etch |
| 14:44.01 | trampel | stoned: how does one "regenerate the fonit cache"? |
| 14:44.14 | liable | fonit? |
| 14:44.15 | stoned | trampel, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig |
| 14:44.18 | jetscreamer | [09.44.19] <dpkg> Package 'apt-listbugs' does not exist. |
| 14:44.26 | burdtu | on one of our stable machines proftpd keeps crashing and disconnecting clients. I'mm seeing this *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: |
| 14:44.29 | trampel | stoned: thanks.... off to try that. |
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| 14:44.39 | Craigevil | try running Dfontmgr |
| 14:44.54 | stoned | font managers piss me off |
| 14:44.59 | stoned | but anyway, I'm half crazy |
| 14:45.21 | stoned | trampel, let us know how it comes along |
| 14:45.28 | zebalin4 | Hi. Anyone know/remember the name of the small-footpring web server used in Damn Small Linux... it's good for local (not network) systems? |
| 14:45.31 | jetscreamer | burdtu: i had gedit doing that to xorg when i tried to open a file that had a really really really long line with it. |
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| 14:46.00 | burdtu | yah I am sein this error with ALOT of different apps when i search google |
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| 14:46.12 | trampel | that "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" 'worked' but the emacs still returns "font not defined" and comes up with ugly boxes in place of every character |
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| 14:46.34 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search emac | grep -i font maybe ? |
| 14:46.39 | kyncani | zebalin4: webfs is real small |
| 14:46.47 | boodie | Hi, I was in as root! so silly |
| 14:46.49 | aidan | how can I force apt to upgrade to BPO when the dotdeb is newer? |
| 14:46.50 | stoned | zebalin4, damnsmalllinux.org or whatever has the list of packages used in dsl |
| 14:46.55 | abrotman | stoned: find anything ? |
| 14:47.02 | jetscreamer | !apt-pinning |
| 14:47.03 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 14:47.09 | Craigevil | aidan you have to use pinning |
| 14:47.09 | valdyn | burdtu: a) some remote user is exploiting your proftpd or b) some other 'input' to it ( probabaly a config file ) is broken |
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| 14:47.15 | zebalin4 | kyncani: hmmm. that could be it. I'll check. |
| 14:47.17 | stoned | abrotman, I've been busy breaking stuff up for umm.. to do stuff with. I have not looked yet |
| 14:47.27 | stoned | abrotman, you mean the audio player apps right? |
| 14:47.33 | abrotman | stoned: did it come in a little baggie? |
| 14:47.35 | zebalin4 | stoned: good idea. too hung-over to have thought of that this am! |
| 14:47.37 | aidan | Craigevil: I've pinned the backports to 200, I'm using -t sarge-backports to force it |
| 14:47.42 | trampel | jetscreamer: that returns about 9 lines of fonts packages |
| 14:47.46 | boodie | So, this is my problem : with startx, gives me an error of "no screen available" |
| 14:47.54 | abrotman | stoned: yeah |
| 14:47.56 | jetscreamer | trampel: hth :) wtf is an emac, anyway |
| 14:47.57 | stoned | hehe, yea it did |
| 14:48.10 | trampel | s/emac/emacs/ [wink] |
| 14:48.32 | boodie | with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it asks me the PCI address of the card |
| 14:48.35 | jetscreamer | oh yeah it's that utility kitchen sink |
| 14:48.41 | jetscreamer | boodie: leave it blank |
| 14:49.01 | jetscreamer | if it's agp you could put PCI:1:0:0 but you don't have to |
| 14:49.03 | burdtu | valdyn: yah thats what I figured.. i just purged it and reinstalled going to see if that helps |
| 14:49.05 | boodie | you reckon? |
| 14:49.10 | jetscreamer | i reckon |
| 14:49.16 | jetscreamer | (know, too) |
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| 14:49.30 | stoned | boodie, lspci -X will p robably tell you where it is hooked up |
| 14:49.30 | boodie | my card is on a PCI-Express |
| 14:49.48 | jetscreamer | no idea, but you can stil leave it blank |
| 14:49.50 | stoned | boodie, or hwinfo |
| 14:49.56 | jetscreamer | no idea what the id would be i mean |
| 14:49.57 | boodie | indeed: in hexadecimal! |
| 14:50.01 | stoned | yeh what he said, just leave it blank |
| 14:50.15 | stoned | you don't need it unless you have multiple cards |
| 14:50.18 | valdyn | boodie: that doesnt make a different for X, if its pci or agp or pccard or pcie or whatever |
| 14:50.23 | abrotman | or macs |
| 14:50.33 | boodie | hmmm |
| 14:50.42 | jetscreamer | think blank==autodetect |
| 14:50.52 | trampel | this mornings upgrade (testing) refreshed a lot of X windows related packages (and then broke my fonts); but i haven't (as yet) rebooted my X server, does that seem like a likely thing to try to fix one's fonts? |
| 14:51.14 | aidan | formorer: is there a recommended method to switch from dotdeb to bpo |
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| 14:51.31 | valdyn | trampel: did you apt-get install xorg as you got told when upgrading? |
| 14:51.41 | formorer | aidan: no, thats one of the problems |
| 14:51.49 | formorer | aidan: best would be to purge all |
| 14:51.50 | aidan | formorer: bummer :) |
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| 14:51.50 | stoned | oh dude |
| 14:51.56 | trampel | valdyn: it was already installed so i didn't *re-install* should i have? |
| 14:52.05 | stoned | you didn't put backports in sources.list and dist-upgrade did you? |
| 14:52.11 | aidan | formorer: do I have to purge? I don't want to lose data |
| 14:52.12 | stoned | cuz that would breaks lots of things afaik |
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| 14:52.17 | aidan | stoned: no |
| 14:52.19 | formorer | aidan: you should |
| 14:52.20 | boodie | ok I'll retry ... thanx for now |
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| 14:52.30 | valdyn | trampel: for all i know that package didnt even exist |
| 14:52.32 | stoned | formorer, no |
| 14:52.36 | stoned | no no no |
| 14:52.47 | formorer | yes yes yes |
| 14:52.48 | formorer | and now? |
| 14:52.57 | stoned | dont distupgrade with backports man |
| 14:52.59 | jetscreamer | stoned i think they're talking about something else |
| 14:53.04 | stoned | oh ok nevermind |
| 14:53.09 | formorer | stoned: who talked about dist-upgrade? |
| 14:53.09 | stoned | I am probably high, my bad |
| 14:53.12 | aidan | I don't think we are? |
| 14:53.18 | stoned | sorry guys |
| 14:53.21 | stoned | carry on |
| 14:53.22 | formorer | stoned: I never talked about dist-upgrade |
| 14:53.23 | trampel | valdyn: uhm... "xorg 7.0.20" |
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| 14:53.32 | jetscreamer | wong convo |
| 14:53.38 | formorer | aidan: and he is right: read the fucking instructions |
| 14:53.39 | jetscreamer | wtf is bpo |
| 14:53.44 | stoned | backports |
| 14:53.48 | formorer | jetscreamer: http://backports.org |
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| 14:53.59 | aidan | formorer: ah, I've read them! there's nothing about dotdeb |
| 14:54.02 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 14:54.12 | jetscreamer | weird |
| 14:54.14 | formorer | aidan: yeah, but about installing and dist-upgrade |
| 14:54.25 | aidan | formorer: I've read that, my problem is with the dotdebs |
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| 14:54.30 | elvirolo | printing with cups doesn't work here : i've configured my printer but it won't print jibs |
| 14:54.31 | jetscreamer | oh i was wurng same convo stoned go back to heckling :) |
| 14:54.43 | formorer | aidan: remove them as I told |
| 14:54.47 | stoned | hehe |
| 14:54.51 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: thank you for the info. what printer |
| 14:55.13 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: sorry : HP Deskjet 710C on Debian Sid |
| 14:55.16 | |Sivik| | ok, this is probably a stupid question but how do i get an installer for debian that is newer than kernel 2.4.something |
| 14:55.24 | jetscreamer | i thought they were talking about some new experimental packaging system one designed to replace .deb |
| 14:55.47 | thingfish | |Sivik|: linux26 at the prompt. |
| 14:55.59 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: you want hpoj package or hplij or so, also pnm2ppa (or so) |
| 14:55.59 | stew | |Sivik|: (hit f1 at the boot: prompt) |
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| 14:56.14 | jetscreamer | and you want tuo use the mc:par designator in cups admin not lpo |
| 14:56.15 | stoned | well, it wasn't a wrong conversation, and I wasn't mistaken but I didn't want to escalate that any furthur. I thought he upgraded the whole system with backports, but he didn't and the other guys said "you should" and I thought he said that in response to my response, and I said no! and thats how it got confusing |
| 14:56.17 | jetscreamer | lp0 |
| 14:56.31 | stoned | but its all good |
| 14:56.37 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: ok thanks |
| 14:56.51 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: linux.hp.com also |
| 14:57.08 | elvirolo | i didn't know that existed thks |
| 14:57.15 | |Sivik| | does that work for the net inst as well |
| 14:57.20 | stew | |Sivik|: yes |
| 14:57.27 | |Sivik| | stew: ok |
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| 14:57.44 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: the driver says : Found "DESKJET 710C" but failed to communicate with it! |
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| 14:58.42 | Riboflavin | good morning folks |
| 14:58.46 | |Sivik| | stew: ok, i hit f1, now what, there are 10 options |
| 14:58.46 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: i had that problem but when i started using that mc:par:blahblah designator instead of lp0 it worked for me |
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| 14:59.11 | stew | |Sivik|: you want the linux26 option, i was just pointing out where you could have found this out for yourself |
| 14:59.13 | JulioH | buneas |
| 14:59.17 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: what do you mean by "designator" ? |
| 14:59.20 | awisniewski | server |
| 14:59.20 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 14:59.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:59.34 | stoned | i wonder |
| 14:59.35 | stoned | !ur |
| 14:59.36 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 14:59.41 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:59.45 | JulioH | debhelper, |
| 14:59.46 | stoned | I should probably go to #debian-ur |
| 14:59.53 | r121 | I'm using Testing and I'm trying to mark all upgrades with synaptic, but as a result it wants to remove xserver-common, is that ok? |
| 15:00.05 | stoned | heh, and I'm the only one in there |
| 15:00.06 | |Sivik| | stew: there is nothing on that page that says anything about linux26 |
| 15:00.10 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: it's in the cups admin page when you set the printer up. as in what port it prints on. after i installed the hpoj package, i saw a mc:par thing, used it, it just worked. |
| 15:00.17 | stew | |Sivik|: hit f3 |
| 15:00.21 | Riboflavin | for what it is worth "ur" is/was a common abbreviation in morse code, but I guess it doesn't matter too much when typing |
| 15:00.34 | jetscreamer | ur is on exhibition at the museum baybee |
| 15:00.39 | |Sivik| | when i hit f3, i get a 6 at the prompt |
| 15:00.40 | stew | oh yikes, did xorg R7 hit testing? |
| 15:00.44 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: ah ok thank you |
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| 15:01.00 | valdyn | stew: yea |
| 15:01.02 | Craigevil | stew yes |
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| 15:01.35 | lord_rob | stew: and 7.1 is coming step by step into unstable :) |
| 15:02.08 | abrotman | stew: it was great .. so easy |
| 15:02.08 | Riboflavin | when it boots up and say "nm256 mapping port 1 from 0x2709a0 - 0x27ec00" -- what dot this mean. It seems to be doing this for about 2 minutes. |
| 15:02.10 | abrotman | !beer gravity |
| 15:02.18 | wozz | quit |
| 15:02.25 | valdyn | r121: yes, you dont need that package |
| 15:02.47 | stoned | dpkg ur is Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 15:02.48 | dpkg | ...but ur is already something else... |
| 15:03.00 | valdyn | r121: it no longer exists |
| 15:03.03 | stoned | someone put that in please |
| 15:03.09 | r121 | valdyn: ok, thanks |
| 15:03.13 | stoned | I don't know how to use the bot! |
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| 15:03.55 | stoned | dpkg ur is <response>Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 15:03.56 | dpkg | ...but ur is already something else... |
| 15:03.59 | stoned | fuck it |
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| 15:04.16 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: the mc:par thing doesn't appear in the liste |
| 15:04.18 | elvirolo | list* |
| 15:04.27 | Riboflavin | when it boots up and say "nm256 mapping port 1 from 0x2709a0 - 0x27ec00" -- what does this mean? It seems to be doing this for about 2 minutes. Sometimes it hangs. |
| 15:04.32 | stoned | abrotman, hi can you help me out with dpkg? |
| 15:04.38 | vandamme | Valdyn : the soundcard stil outputs onlt to lineout (with a bad sound) there's a fix ? a way to force to use the proper output ? |
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| 15:04.54 | valdyn | just upgraded 2 boxes to xorg7, one needed apt-get install xorg-dev to fix dev packages, the other needed no intervention at all.. |
| 15:04.59 | abrotman | stoned: are you baking? |
| 15:05.06 | valdyn | vandamme: line out isnt bad |
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| 15:05.11 | blondie | man, my laptop clock has gotten 1.5 hours ahead in an hours time :| |
| 15:05.14 | abrotman | stoned: what's wrong with dpkg ? |
| 15:05.15 | stoned | abrotman, could you pl ease add that factoid to !ur |
| 15:05.20 | vandamme | the sound it ouputs is very bad ;) |
| 15:05.22 | stoned | abrotman, I don't know how to add it |
| 15:05.25 | abrotman | stoned: add what factoid ? |
| 15:05.28 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:05.29 | stoned | dpkg ur is <response>Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 15:05.30 | dpkg | ...but ur is already something else... |
| 15:05.33 | stoned | that one |
| 15:05.34 | abrotman | !ur |
| 15:05.35 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 15:05.48 | valdyn | vandamme: its just less wattage than the spkr output or whatever its called, in fact line out should be _better_ quality |
| 15:05.53 | abrotman | !ur |
| 15:05.53 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 15:05.58 | abrotman | better? |
| 15:06.01 | stoned | word, thank you |
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| 15:06.21 | elvirolo | jetscreamer: you say it's in the port list ? |
| 15:06.33 | lunitik | stoned: if its already there... either 'dpkg forget foo' and 'dpkg this is that' or 'dpkg this is also that' |
| 15:06.35 | vandamme | the sound i hear is VERY bad ;) |
| 15:06.41 | vandamme | it's almost noise |
| 15:06.41 | stoned | ahh |
| 15:06.42 | vandamme | ;) |
| 15:06.46 | stoned | lunitik, thanks |
| 15:06.53 | blondie | vandamme: don't talk about abrotman's singing that way! |
| 15:06.53 | aidan | formorer: okay, I have removed about a dozen php/mysql packages |
| 15:06.58 | abrotman | stoned: there is no #debian-ur |
| 15:06.59 | valdyn | vandamme: did you try the 3rd jack yet? |
| 15:07.01 | aidan | I see the following packages in backports, http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ |
| 15:07.14 | stoned | abrotman, I know, I just joined it, and I'll stay there too |
| 15:07.16 | |Sivik| | stew: f3 didn't work |
| 15:07.17 | vandamme | i'm listening there was silence .... from blind guardian |
| 15:07.18 | abrotman | blondie: not singing .. listening to some springsteen |
| 15:07.22 | valdyn | vandamme: sometimes neighbouring jacks just 'inherit' sounds, in real real bad quality |
| 15:07.28 | abrotman | stoned: you may want to register it .. or have a DD do it |
| 15:07.29 | formorer | aidan: and? |
| 15:07.32 | vandamme | my snd card |
| 15:07.32 | stoned | in case some poor guy comes around who can't speak english good and needs support in hindi/punjabi/urdu |
| 15:07.33 | valdyn | vandamme: whatever the technical term might be |
| 15:07.35 | vandamme | has two output |
| 15:07.38 | aidan | apt-get -t sarge-backports install php5-cli tells me the package is not available |
| 15:07.40 | stoned | abrotman, ok |
| 15:07.45 | lunitik | !tell me about ur |
| 15:07.51 | vandamme | two inputs and joy-midiport |
| 15:07.52 | formorer | aidan: apt-get update? |
| 15:07.59 | aidan | formorer: already done |
| 15:08.01 | valdyn | vandamme: try the inputs |
| 15:08.08 | abrotman | blondie: and Dead Milkmen! :) |
| 15:08.11 | formorer | apt-cache policy php5-cli says what? |
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| 15:08.23 | vandamme | tried no sound from that |
| 15:08.41 | valdyn | vandamme: labeling really means not much at all when the function can be changed with software.. |
| 15:08.43 | aidan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/bVBKp037.html |
| 15:08.49 | valdyn | vandamme: ok |
| 15:08.57 | valdyn | vandamme: i really would like to hear this sound |
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| 15:09.20 | lunitik | awww... aptitude doesn't have a policy setting :( |
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| 15:09.32 | vandamme | ok' ill record with mp3player and send ya ;) |
| 15:09.44 | cippuz | hi guys, yesterday i installed my wifi card ipw2200 on my notebook, but reading dmesg i've noticed tha something went wrong... |
| 15:09.55 | stew | |Sivik|: you just want to type "linux26" at the boot prompt |
| 15:09.56 | cippuz | ...someone can help me? |
| 15:10.06 | lunitik | cippuz: depends what went wrong... |
| 15:10.18 | valdyn | cippuz: what went wrong? |
| 15:10.48 | cippuz | i read something linke that"ipw2200: Failed to send CARD_DISABLE: Command timed out." |
| 15:10.57 | cippuz | "ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting." |
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| 15:11.05 | aidan | formorer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bVBKp037.html |
| 15:11.06 | cippuz | "ipw2200: Sysfs 'error' log already exists." |
| 15:11.17 | valdyn | cippuz: reload the module |
| 15:11.26 | cippuz | with modprobe? |
| 15:11.38 | valdyn | cippuz: modprobe -r ipw2200; modprobe ipw2200 |
| 15:11.41 | formorer | aidan: and you are sure you have bpo in your sources list? |
| 15:11.52 | stoned | during the expert install, when it to do the 'detect and mount cdrom' or any hw detection at all, why does it want to start pcmcia all the time? and if no is selected, it will display an error about it not being installed? Why is this being forced, or at least feels like it is being forced on you? |
| 15:12.02 | stoned | when it tries* |
| 15:12.12 | cyzie | hello, how do i auto reconnect to my isp for whatever reason the link drop? im using pon to connect to my isp |
| 15:12.17 | aidan | # tail -n 1 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:12.24 | aidan | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main |
| 15:12.26 | vandamme | Valdyn : can u accept dcc ? |
| 15:12.57 | valdyn | cyzie: uncomment persist in /etc/ppp/options |
| 15:12.57 | formorer | aidan: http://paste.debian.net/7227 |
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| 15:13.06 | valdyn | cyzie: no idea, i doubt dcc would work, try |
| 15:13.08 | cippuz | valdyn: ok, now that's ok |
| 15:13.18 | valdyn | cyzie: ops mistell |
| 15:13.29 | valdyn | vandamne: no idea, i doubt dcc would work, try |
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| 15:14.04 | oggei | hi |
| 15:14.05 | cyzie | valdyn, uncomment persists? can i paste u in private for the persist statment please? |
| 15:14.06 | lunitik | valdyn: you have to open the port... else it won't... |
| 15:14.39 | valdyn | cyzie: its '#persist', you remove the '#' |
| 15:14.46 | cyzie | valdyn, thanks |
| 15:15.10 | valdyn | lunitik: which port is dcc? |
| 15:15.16 | aidan | formorer: interesting, this page is pretty bad (h1 used as emphasis??), http://backports.org/instructions.html, if I want to use the -t sarge-backports, do I need to pin each package? |
| 15:15.19 | cyzie | valdyn, there is one more called #nopersist hehehe |
| 15:15.35 | lunitik | valdyn: whatever you set it to be? |
| 15:15.56 | valdyn | lunitik: uh, i never set anything |
| 15:15.59 | valdyn | lunitik: using irssi |
| 15:16.12 | callee | i just upgraded to xorg 7.0 however there is no glxinfo anymore |
| 15:16.25 | callee | did the name or package of that binary change? |
| 15:16.32 | lunitik | valdyn: here, by default, its 1024 - 7000 ... seems overkill... but no one DCC's me... |
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| 15:16.48 | formorer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.48 | formorer | /etc/apt/preferences |
| 15:16.48 | formorer | and to use |
| 15:16.48 | formorer | apt-get -t sarge-backports install mutt |
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| 15:17.06 | awisniewski | ls |
| 15:17.09 | |Sivik| | stew: thanks |
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| 15:17.26 | callee | lunitik: because it's lightweight? |
| 15:17.27 | blondie | lunitik: what else? |
| 15:17.43 | aidan | formorer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rGI5t064.html |
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| 15:17.49 | aidan | lunitik: what else would I use? |
| 15:17.53 | lunitik | callee: aptitude lets you think less... and is equally light |
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| 15:18.58 | lunitik | more featureful... does most package management tasks automatically (cleaning your system, conflict resolutions...) |
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| 15:19.24 | zebalin4 | Can anyone recommend a very lightweight web server for a local machine. Apache is overkill. Needs to be able to handle php. |
| 15:19.24 | formorer | hm |
| 15:19.36 | lunitik | apt-get just farts out "I can't do that, sorry" |
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| 15:19.44 | blondie | lunitik: WFM. |
| 15:19.44 | formorer | zebalin4: nearly everyone should be able to handle http via cgi |
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| 15:19.48 | zebalin4 | (or a small print web server for a small LAN) |
| 15:19.54 | valdyn | vandamme: sounds like your amplifier cant deal with that much power |
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| 15:20.02 | lunitik | blondie: wfm? |
| 15:20.06 | blondie | works for me |
| 15:20.11 | zebalin4 | (I mean small footprint web server for a small LAN) |
| 15:20.19 | valdyn | vandamme: again i dont know the technical term for this |
| 15:20.20 | zebalin4 | wfm? |
| 15:20.26 | lunitik | blondie: apt-get works... its just not useful compared to aptitude |
| 15:20.28 | blondie | what's wrong with apache? |
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| 15:20.39 | lunitik | blondie: not lightweight |
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| 15:21.06 | blondie | lunitik: that's not an answer |
| 15:21.15 | vandamme | exacly ... is what u get connecting amplified speakers to lineout... that's why i nned to use the normal way |
| 15:21.21 | blondie | !u |
| 15:21.21 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:21.38 | vandamme | using unamplified speakers @ lineout = noaudio |
| 15:21.46 | vandamme | using ampl. one = noise |
| 15:21.54 | lunitik | zebalin4: aptitude search httpd and pick one? |
| 15:21.59 | vandamme | ;) |
| 15:22.12 | awisniewski | Is the newest Ubuntu (daper drake) as stable as 'Debian Sarge' ? |
| 15:22.21 | lunitik | awisniewski: no |
| 15:22.22 | althaser | voxvirus: |
| 15:22.25 | awisniewski | I din't know whether t otry it or not |
| 15:22.30 | valdyn | vandamme: so the power is actualy to low and you are just turning your amplifier real high |
| 15:22.34 | lunitik | awisniewski: from what I've heard... its cups doesn't even work, for instance |
| 15:22.50 | lunitik | awisniewski: why bother? |
| 15:23.09 | vandamme | amp. is @ min. |
| 15:23.25 | vandamme | and it's not a real amp. simply the speakers 've a built in one |
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| 15:23.43 | valdyn | vandamme: so reduce volume on your soundcard? |
| 15:24.05 | awisniewski | because people that make Ubuntu took 'debian unstable' and run it as the latest Ubuntu |
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| 15:24.30 | valdyn | awisniewski: no, that's incorrect |
| 15:24.37 | vandamme | reducing = mute |
| 15:24.42 | awisniewski | according from wikipedia |
| 15:24.53 | valdyn | vandamme: aww |
| 15:24.56 | vandamme | i mean if voulme is not set to max in s.c. than there's not audio at all |
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| 15:25.08 | aidan | formorer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rGI5t064.html |
| 15:25.14 | anisFarhana | greetings all :) |
| 15:25.19 | lunitik | awisniewski: just use Etch... its stable enough, and more current packages than Ubuntu in most cases... |
| 15:25.20 | anisFarhana | how to set apache for user account in root ? |
| 15:25.21 | nv-the-riper_ | !wiki debian |
| 15:25.51 | blondie | anisFarhana: huh? |
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| 15:26.07 | lunitik | awisniewski: kUbuntu really offers nothing over Debian, its just a Debian that isn't compatible with everyone elses Debian |
| 15:26.07 | valdyn | vandamme: you're on sarge right? |
| 15:26.13 | vandamme | yes |
| 15:26.15 | vandamme | sarge r2 |
| 15:26.32 | anisFarhana | erk! |
| 15:26.34 | anisFarhana | :-S |
| 15:26.36 | valdyn | vandamme: try a newer kernel from backports.org, that may fix you issue if its a driver bug |
| 15:26.47 | awisniewski | lunutik: but there is no security support to the 'debian testing' |
| 15:26.52 | anisFarhana | blondie: i want to setup apache for user , for example http://www.host.com/~anis/ |
| 15:26.57 | awisniewski | according to The Debian oficial site |
| 15:27.08 | lunitik | awisniewski: how they manage to take Sid packages, and end up with a system that isn't compatible beats the hell out of me... but they managed it |
| 15:27.13 | blondie | anisFarhana: oh, it should work that way by default on debian |
| 15:27.16 | anisFarhana | blondie: webserver running successfully on root account |
| 15:27.18 | lunitik | awisniewski: yes there is |
| 15:27.30 | anisFarhana | blondie: i need to make folder on user account such as httpd ? |
| 15:27.32 | blondie | anisFarhana: apache shouldn't be run as root |
| 15:27.37 | blondie | public_html |
| 15:27.40 | vandamme | doubt it can be the kernel it's the same with mandrake & latesrt kernel |
| 15:27.42 | lunitik | awisniewski: none for Sid, because the security stuff goes directly into Sid packages... |
| 15:27.47 | bengrubb | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.52 | valdyn | vandamme: so not a driver issue |
| 15:28.00 | bengrubb | i mean whoever it is for |
| 15:28.05 | vandamme | what i really guess : buying a new card may solve the problem.. |
| 15:28.05 | anisFarhana | blondie: trying |
| 15:28.20 | blondie | is there an echo? or are you the same person? |
| 15:28.23 | vandamme | but which card ? the current one is supported and don't works ... |
| 15:28.27 | stew | lord_rob: what from 7.1 has hit unstable that you know of? |
| 15:28.28 | valdyn | vandamme: and very cheap for this kind of card |
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| 15:29.03 | lord_rob | stew: some lib I don't remember exactly which bt I suppose so |
| 15:29.14 | anisFarhana | yay thanks blondie |
| 15:29.15 | FromTO | I am trying to set up gnome-power-manager but with no luck. It does not suspend or hibernate. I am running debian etch with kernel 2.6.14, hal 0.5.7-2, and dbus 0.61-5. |
| 15:29.16 | vandamme | the card works perfectly under redmond ;() |
| 15:29.35 | valdyn | vandamme: you can probably just search tuxhardware.com |
| 15:29.37 | vandamme | so it's "driver" but i can accept to buy a new if there's not a driver for this |
| 15:29.37 | vandamme | ;) |
| 15:29.41 | lord_rob | stew: something has been upgraded from 1.0 to 1.1 (some lib related to input I think) |
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| 15:30.01 | vandamme | acording to that tmine should work like heavan |
| 15:30.06 | vandamme | :: it does NOT |
| 15:30.07 | vandamme | ;) |
| 15:30.10 | aidan | formorer: ah this is a problem. I have removed dotdeb, and backports doesn't work : |
| 15:30.12 | vandamme | that's the problem? |
| 15:30.13 | bubshait | is there a way to boot debian etch without initrd? |
| 15:30.15 | vandamme | ^_^ |
| 15:30.36 | valdyn | vandamme: tuxhardware.com sell specific stuff that works with linux |
| 15:30.38 | bengrubb | who wanted temporary symlinks? |
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| 15:30.39 | formorer | aidan: backports work |
| 15:30.41 | bengrubb | ! |
| 15:30.42 | bengrubb | ~ |
| 15:30.46 | formorer | aidan: its a OSI Layer 8 Problem |
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| 15:31.37 | |Sivik| | ok, i'm trying to install debian but i can't figure out what kind of network card i have cause the installer can't find my ethernet card |
| 15:31.54 | aidan | formorer: I've followed the instructions, I've read the limited available docs, if it's me, surely you can advise me on what to do? |
| 15:32.00 | lunitik | |Sivik|: What did it say on the box? |
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| 15:32.07 | valdyn | |Sivik|: and you sure got that computer with no documentation at all |
| 15:32.16 | vandamme | mmm btw : can s.c. output be redirected ? |
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| 15:32.54 | bengrubb | For whoever wanted to do http://host.com/!user http://vhcs.puuhis.net/wiki/index.php/Temporary_address_to_domains |
| 15:32.58 | bengrubb | ~* |
| 15:32.58 | apt | methinks * is asterisk |
| 15:33.02 | valdyn | vandamme: depends on the card |
| 15:33.03 | formorer | aidan: I don't know what its going wrong at your point, but try to paste: 1) your sources list 2) your preferences file 3) the output of apt-get update 4) the output of apt-cache policy php5-cli |
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| 15:33.11 | krnl`- | hi |
| 15:33.13 | krnl`- | i got "accept: Too many files open" error in my own C app. how can i increase the allowed file descriptors ? |
| 15:33.13 | vandamme | how it is done ? |
| 15:33.23 | valdyn | vandamme: with arecord |
| 15:33.24 | |Sivik| | lunitik: i though maybe there was a way to figure it out without having to find my books |
| 15:33.43 | valdyn | vandamme: or 'cat /dev/dsp > somewhereelse' |
| 15:33.50 | lunitik | |Sivik|: you have an OS installed on that box? |
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| 15:33.54 | |Sivik| | yes |
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| 15:33.58 | |Sivik| | on a different hd |
| 15:33.59 | stew | |Sivik|: lspci | grep Ether |
| 15:34.02 | lunitik | |Sivik|: which one? |
| 15:34.08 | stoned | oh my god, I just googled a full version doom2.wad !! |
| 15:34.09 | |Sivik| | but its not a pci |
| 15:34.11 | |Sivik| | ubuntu |
| 15:34.15 | |Sivik| | lunitik, ubuntu |
| 15:34.21 | vandamme | i mean to move lineout > spk out ;) |
| 15:34.21 | formorer | wrong channel |
| 15:34.30 | formorer | please try at one of the ubuntu channels. thanks |
| 15:34.32 | lunitik | |Sivik|: meh... search through its modules |
| 15:34.36 | aidan | formorer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FRt6q370.html |
| 15:34.42 | |Sivik| | lunitik, thats a pain in the butt to do |
| 15:34.45 | valdyn | vandamme: if that's possible then there should be a switch for that in alsamixer |
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| 15:34.47 | |Sivik| | i will just find my book |
| 15:34.55 | stew | |Sivik|: its an isa card? or what? |
| 15:35.02 | |Sivik| | stew: onboard |
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| 15:35.08 | Jacobo221 | what is the app that the debian installer uses to partition disks? i mean the frontend |
| 15:35.13 | stew | |Sivik|: its pci then, lspci | grep Ether |
| 15:35.21 | formorer | aidan: there are no amd64 packages of php5 on backports.org |
| 15:35.24 | lunitik | |Sivik|: looking through a book is less of a pain than running 'lsmod'? |
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| 15:35.48 | |Sivik| | stew: when i run the lspci | grep Ether, the output is blank |
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| 15:35.55 | aidan | formorer: ahhh |
| 15:36.06 | aidan | formorer: okay, so I'm stuck with dotdeb? |
| 15:36.16 | formorer | aidan: wait a little bit |
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| 15:36.38 | |Sivik| | lunitik, that would involve knowing where the book is |
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| 15:37.09 | aidan | formorer: are we talking minutes or days? |
| 15:37.22 | formorer | aidan: depends on my network connection ;) |
| 15:37.28 | aidan | heh :) |
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| 15:37.36 | lunitik | |Sivik|: Ubuntu is Debian for people like you... stick to that |
| 15:37.48 | |Sivik| | lunitik, you know what, eat me |
| 15:37.59 | zOap | is there a general video codec available |
| 15:38.04 | |Sivik| | z0ap: yes |
| 15:38.13 | |Sivik| | lunitik, what are you trying to say there mr smartass |
| 15:38.20 | zOap | |Sivik|, what's it called? |
| 15:38.25 | stew | |Sivik|: lunitik: enough. time to use /ignore |
| 15:38.34 | valdyn | zOap: no, why would anyone want that? |
| 15:38.35 | |Sivik| | stew: whats his bloody problem |
| 15:38.36 | lunitik | zOap: www.debian-multimedia.org <-- get w32codecs from there |
| 15:38.44 | zOap | thanks |
| 15:38.57 | stew | |Sivik|: i don't know, ignore it and move on |
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| 15:39.05 | |Sivik| | stew: ok |
| 15:39.30 | formorer | aidan: door bell ringing |
| 15:39.33 | |Sivik| | stew: how else would i figure it out, it doesn't say specificly in the mobo book |
| 15:39.41 | lunitik | |Sivik|: Defensiveness... lol... "Linux for human beings" as apposed to people that know what they are doing, or care how things work... |
| 15:39.58 | stew | |Sivik|: if ubuntu is working, booting it and getting the output of lsmod and lscpi and lspci -n is a good idea. put them into a pastebin |
| 15:40.03 | lunitik | |Sivik|: not meant negatively... Debian isn't for everyone... |
| 15:40.24 | valdyn | !elitist |
| 15:40.25 | dpkg | somebody said elitist was a word used by lazy people to describe the ones who made them angry by insisting that people should THINK instead of just asking every damned stupid question in their head on an IRC channel |
| 15:40.35 | |Sivik| | lunitik, i'm learning and i would just stay wtih ubuntu but it keeps killing ff and terminal and kopete and sometimes goes black and then back to the login screen |
| 15:40.43 | |Sivik| | ok |
| 15:40.52 | redphoenix1 | how do i get xorg to run in 24 bit? |
| 15:41.07 | redphoenix1 | i run glxinfo and i dont see 24 anywhere in it |
| 15:41.08 | aidan | formorer: how does one answer this virtual door bell? |
| 15:41.12 | |Sivik| | !pastebin |
| 15:41.12 | dpkg | methinks pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:41.46 | lunitik | redphoenix1: umm... DefaultDepth 16 |
| 15:42.16 | redphoenix1 | so i set default depth to 24 |
| 15:42.19 | lunitik | redphoenix1: 24 is 32 bit |
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| 15:42.55 | |Sivik| | stew: the url is http://channels.debian.net/paste/2728 |
| 15:43.00 | redphoenix1 | doom 3 is saying it neds 24 bit tho and i do have 32 in glxinfo |
| 15:43.11 | r121 | sigh. ok, so I did the upgrade with synaptic... now the x server wont start: "No screens found" |
| 15:43.24 | valdyn | redphoenix1: no that is your wrong understanding of what these numbers mean |
| 15:43.36 | valdyn | redphoenix1: does doom3 not run? what is the error? |
| 15:43.48 | |Sivik| | the url is http://channels.debian.net/paste/2728 |
| 15:43.49 | redphoenix1 | it does not run |
| 15:44.07 | redphoenix1 | i read that i needs 24 bit display to run because of the error i get |
| 15:44.09 | lunitik | !tell |Sivik| about repeat |
| 15:44.10 | stew | |Sivik|: you need to load the forcedeth module |
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| 15:44.29 | redphoenix1 | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/14827-doom-3-prob.html |
| 15:44.33 | r121 | don't suppose someone can help someone who doesn't know what they're doing :) |
| 15:44.35 | |Sivik| | stew: ok, how do i do that |
| 15:44.36 | redphoenix1 | i have the same error as him |
| 15:44.54 | abrotman | r121: look your X log in /var/log/ |
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| 15:45.30 | lunitik | r121: what does 'echo DISPLAY' return? |
| 15:45.51 | lunitik | r121: also what abrotman said |
| 15:46.04 | valdyn | redphoenix1: what is your 3d card and what is your driver? |
| 15:46.17 | redphoenix1 | the driver is i915 |
| 15:46.18 | abrotman | yeah .. what i said! |
| 15:46.36 | valdyn | redphoenix1: i doubt doom3 will run on that |
| 15:46.49 | valdyn | redphoenix1: and it would probably be very very slow if it did |
| 15:46.53 | abrotman | valdyn: i bet it will! |
| 15:47.00 | r121 | lunitik: doesn't return much, that variable isn't set, I tried setting it to ":0" but that didn't work |
| 15:47.02 | lunitik | abrotman: I was almost there "if it returns :0 check /var/li" was as far as I got... |
| 15:47.04 | |Sivik| | what is the forcedeth module |
| 15:47.04 | redphoenix1 | it has 64mb shared memeory |
| 15:47.07 | redphoenix1 | i know it runs |
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| 15:47.15 | redphoenix1 | because it was running just fine on osx |
| 15:47.18 | Althaser | anybody here knows how can I stop Inbound logging ? please |
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| 15:47.23 | trampel | does anyone happen to know of the xorg update changed the directory in which the standard fonts are stored? (thank you) |
| 15:47.24 | valdyn | redphoenix1: you would know this if you read the linux faq |
| 15:47.34 | valdyn | redphoenix1: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-35e0a73bcefd812098cc43d70a44756f09d378d9 |
| 15:47.36 | r121 | abrotman: and the log says it can't load the nvidia module, no drivers found |
| 15:47.43 | stew | |Sivik|: when the installer boots, try hitting alt-f2 ; then <enter> ; then modprobe forcedeth |
| 15:47.44 | valdyn | redphoenix1: quote: NV10 or R200 minimum hardware |
| 15:47.49 | lunitik | trampel: it didn't... |
| 15:47.51 | abrotman | r121: did you just upgrade your kernel .. or X? |
| 15:47.55 | |Sivik| | ok |
| 15:47.58 | |Sivik| | i will in a minute |
| 15:48.06 | trampel | lunitik: thank you. (hmmm) |
| 15:48.07 | stew | |Sivik|: the forcedeth moddule is a kernel driver for nforce ethernet cards |
| 15:48.08 | redphoenix1 | i know it can run....it was running just fine on osx |
| 15:48.27 | r121 | abrotman: just X, I'm using testing, and just did an upgrade in synaptic |
| 15:48.32 | valdyn | redphoenix1: guess what, OSX isnt linux |
| 15:48.50 | tuv | has anyone tried testing's xorg 7 yet? |
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| 15:49.12 | r121 | tuv: me, though I can't get it working :( |
| 15:49.12 | redphoenix1 | i am just asking how can i get xorg to run at 24 bit :P |
| 15:49.18 | stew | |Sivik|: keep that url that you pasted bookmarked. the lsmod output will come in handy after your system is setup and its time to setup other stuff like audio |
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| 15:49.23 | redphoenix1 | and let me find out if it can run or not |
| 15:49.27 | |Sivik| | ok |
| 15:49.28 | valdyn | redphoenix1: it already is running at 24 bit, dont you listen? |
| 15:49.34 | |Sivik| | i will do it in a second |
| 15:49.44 | lunitik | trampel: /usr/share/fonts has been the place for a while... |
| 15:49.51 | abrotman | r121: right .. you just got Xorg7 |
| 15:50.11 | redphoenix1 | 0x4b 32 tc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None |
| 15:50.11 | redphoenix1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.17 | r121 | abrotman: I think so |
| 15:50.22 | trampel | lunitik: thank you! *still* trying to track down why this morning's (testing) upgrade killed all my emacs fonts ...(dammit) |
| 15:50.24 | abrotman | no .. you did |
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| 15:50.39 | lunitik | redphoenix1: setting DefaultDepth 16 doesn't work? |
| 15:50.59 | valdyn | redphoenix1: glxinfo can tell you that 24 bit modes are available btw |
| 15:51.02 | lunitik | trampel: 'dpkg -L' is useful ;) |
| 15:51.21 | redphoenix1 | where do i put default depth 16? |
| 15:51.41 | blondie | xorg.conf |
| 15:51.45 | lunitik | redphoenix1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf towards the bottem |
| 15:51.51 | redphoenix1 | ok |
| 15:51.52 | trampel | lunitik: i've been 'dpkg -L'ing and 'reinstall'ing and even emacs stracing up a storm... still no luck. i think there's at least one official germane debian bug posted |
| 15:51.54 | r121 | abrotman: can I make it so X just uses some default driver so I can get it working? |
| 15:51.56 | bubshait | how can I find a module version? |
| 15:51.57 | Althaser | anybody here knows how can I stop Inbound logging ? please |
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| 15:52.14 | stew | bubshait: what do you mean exactly? |
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| 15:52.25 | bubshait | like module ipw2200 |
| 15:52.26 | r121 | abrotman: it can't seem to find the nvidia driver |
| 15:52.27 | lunitik | redphoenix1: although I don't think you want 24 bit fonts really... 32 bit is DefaultDepth 24 like I said... just get nvidia set up to use 32 bit also... |
| 15:52.33 | bubshait | I want to know which version of the module I have installed |
| 15:52.36 | formorer | aidan: okay I'm back |
| 15:52.44 | bubshait | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.46 | trampel | it sure -seems- like (albeit *testing*) that upgrades have been breaking things at a slightly higher rate of late... not that i'm ungrateful! [wink] |
| 15:52.48 | abrotman | valdyn: alright .. that game is just buggy |
| 15:52.50 | phoohb | Are there any way to list all packages in a specific section/tag? Say 'libdevel' shows sevral hundrads in dselect, BUT only a handfull with "apt-cache search libdevel". |
| 15:52.52 | tuv | according to packages.debian.org, testing is still xorg 6.9 |
| 15:52.55 | redphoenix1 | ok |
| 15:52.57 | phoohb | Any ideer? |
| 15:52.58 | stew | bubshait: /sbin/modinfo ipw2200 |
| 15:53.03 | aidan | formorer: what is your plan? |
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| 15:53.07 | bubshait | stew thanks |
| 15:53.34 | phoohb | Can apt/dpkg list sections/tags? |
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| 15:53.58 | wouterrr | hello |
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| 15:53.59 | wouterrr | i have the sparc net-inst cd |
| 15:54.02 | wouterrr | but why can't i use fdisk???? |
| 15:54.05 | formorer | aidan: to build php5 |
| 15:54.26 | Coke | Is there a program that can tell me what my audio hardware sample rate and format is? |
| 15:54.35 | aidan | formorer: oh cool, are you going to do them all en-masse? |
| 15:54.46 | blondie | wouterrr: fdisk is for x86 only IIRC |
| 15:54.55 | wouterrr | i need to change my partition table from msdos to sun |
| 15:54.57 | wouterrr | the installer says |
| 15:55.00 | phoohb | Coke: aumix |
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| 15:55.26 | wouterrr | or do i have to put the hdd in a x86 pc and change partition type? |
| 15:55.27 | wouterrr | argh |
| 15:55.34 | aidan | formorer: I need about a dozen packages, should I reinstall from dotdeb in the meantime? It's a live server, I don't like leaving it down |
| 15:55.44 | Coke | phoohb: really? how do I use aumix to get this information? |
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| 15:55.47 | wouterrr | ah parted |
| 15:55.48 | wouterrr | can work |
| 15:55.50 | abrotman | a live server using dotdeb? |
| 15:56.01 | stew | abrotman: elive? |
| 15:56.42 | phoohb | Coke: Somehow.. |
| 15:56.42 | Coke | phoohb: I don't think so. |
| 15:56.42 | abrotman | stew: it should be based on gentoo! |
| 15:56.43 | aidan | abrotman: yes, I needed php5.1 |
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| 15:56.43 | awisniewski | i'm going to buy notebook, question is: which video card to choose, Intel or ATI? |
| 15:56.43 | abrotman | noone needs php5.1 |
| 15:56.43 | jerry571 | hi can anyone help me with debian setup |
| 15:56.43 | aidan | abrotman: how can you say that? |
| 15:56.44 | trampel | so, does this: "Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct" look remotely familiar to anyone? (thank you!) |
| 15:56.50 | phoohb | Help! (I didn't have any general Linux/*ux question..) Can dpkg/apt list sections/tags? |
| 15:56.57 | awisniewski | i've heard that Intel kards is bette choice |
| 15:56.58 | abrotman | aidan: you didn't need it two years ago when it didn't exist |
| 15:57.30 | formorer | aidan: just tell me which packages beside php5 are missing |
| 15:57.33 | aidan | abrotman: I wasn't using libxml and xslt back then, either |
| 15:57.38 | jerry571 | hello need help on debian server, anyone here is free ? |
| 15:57.54 | abrotman | aidan: guess it's back to static pages for you! |
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| 15:58.41 | aidan | abrotman: I'm the author of the php back compatability package, I'm quite aware of what can and can't be emulated, modified and such. PHP < 5.1 just doesn't have the XML power I need! |
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| 15:58.49 | linolium | hello, I am in the middle of installing Debian, but it seems to be hanging at "retrieving and installing" the kernel. Is there anything I can do to fix this? |
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| 15:59.00 | aidan | formorer: PM coming your way |
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| 15:59.18 | aidan | actually I'll pastebin |
| 15:59.25 | stew | jerry571: if you have a real question, just ask it |
| 15:59.27 | abrotman | aidan: not buying it! :) |
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| 15:59.29 | aidan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/hW374g88.html |
| 15:59.39 | jerry571 | anyone here can help me on how to setup debian for files sharing in windows |
| 15:59.52 | formorer | aidan: you can use the mysql in sarge |
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| 16:00.26 | abrotman | aidan: why won't the backports.org packages install ? |
| 16:00.29 | gentgeen__ | I was looking for a .procmailrc recipe for the Debian Security list, tried " *^(Subject):.*[SECURITY] " but that did not work right... any help? |
| 16:00.29 | amee2k | is there a howto on the basics of how to make a debian based live CD? |
| 16:00.39 | jerry571 | i have problem accessing files after logging in from workstation to debian server |
| 16:00.40 | stew | jerry571: apt-get install samba ; and read the documents in /usr/share/doc/samba/ |
| 16:00.43 | abrotman | jerry571: which is the machine sharing files? |
| 16:00.49 | jerry571 | i did that |
| 16:00.54 | formorer | abrotman: no packages for his arch |
| 16:00.57 | stew | jerry571: you need to be more specific |
| 16:01.23 | abrotman | amd64? |
| 16:01.24 | jerry571 | ok sorry, i am knew to this linux system |
| 16:01.31 | formorer | abrotman: yes |
| 16:01.37 | abrotman | formorer: why not get the src packages? |
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| 16:01.54 | formorer | abrotman: cause if I do it I'm able to upload it directly to bpo |
| 16:02.08 | abrotman | eh .. ok? |
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| 16:02.28 | jerry571 | i managed to install samba and did setup the ftp as well |
| 16:02.30 | formorer | abrotman: I'm one of the bpo ftp-masters :) |
| 16:02.36 | aidan | abrotman: they're not for amd64 |
| 16:02.37 | abrotman | formorer: i know that .. |
| 16:02.56 | abrotman | formorer: i don't have any pure64 systems .. but i didn't realize backports.org had *any* pure64 packages |
| 16:03.19 | aidan | abrotman: oops bit late |
| 16:03.19 | formorer | abrotman: we have |
| 16:03.22 | formorer | abrotman: but autobuildung bpo is a little bit tricky |
| 16:03.31 | formorer | abrotman: so some packages are missing |
| 16:03.34 | abrotman | yay good typo :) |
| 16:03.41 | jerry571 | i did a necessary change to /etc/samba/smb.conf via ee editor |
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| 16:04.20 | cahoot | ok - seems I at last have to abandon filerunner - looking for a two panel file manager that doesn't rely on pictures - can I ask for a suggestion? |
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| 16:04.46 | abrotman | xfe? |
| 16:04.52 | abrotman | gentoo ? |
| 16:04.54 | stew | cahoot: mc or gentoo? |
| 16:04.57 | durruti | hola |
| 16:05.02 | jerry571 | my problem is that when i log in via windows xp, i can see the folders but cannot view the content |
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| 16:05.08 | aidan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/LCF42g36.html |
| 16:05.20 | aidan | ahh :| |
| 16:05.28 | cahoot | tew, abrotman thanks - I'll check those |
| 16:05.29 | formorer | do you really need 5? |
| 16:05.35 | abrotman | tew :) |
| 16:05.44 | cahoot | hmmph - sorry - stew |
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| 16:06.10 | redphoenix1 | still did not work |
| 16:06.37 | aidan | formorer: nope |
| 16:06.37 | aidan | good poitn |
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| 16:06.45 | uro_s | hello |
| 16:06.50 | redphoenix1 | even at defaultdepth 16 |
| 16:06.58 | redphoenix1 | gives me the same error |
| 16:07.07 | uro_s | what protocol in xorg conf should i use for usbmouse |
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| 16:07.17 | abrotman | depends on the mo use |
| 16:07.21 | uro_s | yes |
| 16:07.23 | uro_s | i got |
| 16:07.26 | uro_s | genius |
| 16:07.34 | uro_s | it works but works wrong |
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| 16:07.44 | formorer | aidan: but anyway looks like there are amd64 packages for mysql 5 http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ |
| 16:07.48 | uro_s | i inserted usbmouse module |
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| 16:08.36 | uro_s | and tried imps2 and auto protocol , doesnt work at all |
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| 16:09.25 | friedl | can i rename my useraccount or do i have to create another one with the account name i wish to have and then move all the files? |
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| 16:10.34 | limpio | uro_s: do you have a ps/2 mouse? i just joined in |
| 16:10.53 | jerry571 | stew need your help on the my problem |
| 16:11.34 | uro_s | limpio, looks like i dont know which device is the mouse and witch device is touchpad |
| 16:11.40 | aidan | formorer: ah, excellent. Installing that now. |
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| 16:11.57 | aidan | I tried to switch down to 4.0 but there's a bunch of complicated looking errors trying to open the tables, etc |
| 16:12.03 | friedl | hello? |
| 16:12.06 | formorer | aidan: okay, php5 is now compiling, just give it a little bit time. I will have some food now, see you in 30-40 Minutes |
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| 16:12.18 | bnovc | good morning |
| 16:12.24 | aidan | formorer: excellent, thanks |
| 16:12.26 | uro_s | if i cat dev/input/mouse1 and dev/input/mice there are same results with my mouse |
| 16:12.27 | Gnea | uro_s: juse use the mouse driver for it |
| 16:12.44 | Gnea | uro_s: and point it to /dev/input/mice with ImPS/2 |
| 16:12.44 | stew | jerry571: give me the output of "ls -l /path/to/folder" for a folder that has this problem |
| 16:12.57 | stew | jerry571: err, make that "ls -ld /path/to/folder" |
| 16:13.00 | bnovc | i've setup my ssh server to allow x11 forwarding in sshd_config and i have done ssh -X serverip and then export DISPLAY=myip:0.0 - upon running a program i see nothing but it thinks there is a display because it runs |
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| 16:13.21 | Gnea | uro_s: did you set the ZAxisMapping too? |
| 16:13.27 | uro_s | yes |
| 16:13.35 | uro_s | Gnea, i think it is problem |
| 16:13.38 | Gnea | ok, you should be good to go with that then |
| 16:13.42 | uro_s | Gnea, i think it is problem with two devices |
| 16:13.57 | Gnea | uro_s: how many mice do you have? are they both usb? |
| 16:13.58 | benny`work | hi! just new to debian and wonder why there are no php5 packages on debian.org...php from source or is there another way? |
| 16:13.58 | uro_s | Gnea, one is toucpad , second is mouse |
| 16:14.15 | jerry571 | great i am with the machine that i set up |
| 16:14.20 | blondie | benny`work: there are, but not for stable/sarge |
| 16:14.24 | Gnea | uro_s: ah ok, then you'll need to set the touchpad as the corepointer |
| 16:14.29 | uro_s | ahaaa |
| 16:14.41 | bnovc | benny`work, dont be absurd php has only been stable for a year you can't expect debian to accept that |
| 16:14.48 | uro_s | Gnea, that could be the problem |
| 16:15.14 | benny`work | blondie, bnovc: ok, i'll compile from source :) |
| 16:15.18 | aidan | bnovc: I can't even tell if that was sarcasm :( |
| 16:15.24 | bnovc | aidan, it was |
| 16:15.29 | aidan | benny`work: you can install it from backports |
| 16:15.31 | jerry571 | stew i did a change on smb.conf by adding [storage], path=/home/ftp |
| 16:15.33 | bnovc | benny`work, i would upgrade to non-stable if i were you |
| 16:15.34 | uro_s | Gnea, so i need to set touchpad as corepointer and mouse as mouse |
| 16:15.40 | formorer | benny`work: backports.org |
| 16:15.42 | aidan | !backports |
| 16:15.42 | dpkg | backports is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
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| 16:15.48 | benny`work | but another debian related question: normally i use gentoo...does anyone know USE flags under gentoo? is there anything similar in debian? |
| 16:15.49 | bnovc | benny`work, i've gone to unstable and its the only thing that makes debian livable |
| 16:16.02 | formorer | bnovc: thats bullshit EOD |
| 16:16.43 | jerry571 | manage to get it to work for a day after that the next day when access the folder its say your are not authorise to view this file |
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| 16:17.04 | jerry571 | stew i mean the folder |
| 16:17.33 | jerry571 | stew is there any website to address this problems setting up samba for file sharing |
| 16:17.52 | blondie | samba.org |
| 16:18.02 | limpio | inigo, ayer hice eso pero solo me sale un snapshot del terminal y no de la pagina que queria |
| 16:18.13 | blondie | limpio: Nasdasd asdsa dwer sdkfj ewr sdfkj ! |
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| 16:18.25 | Gnea | !es |
| 16:18.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:18.29 | benny`work | formorer: thanks for the link...looks very good |
| 16:18.32 | Gnea | !br |
| 16:18.33 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:18.50 | lewis | what are the overhead differences between IMAP web client, and direct-disk access web client (i.e. sqwebmail)? |
| 16:19.23 | blondie | lewis: I don't know, but wouldn't the latter have to run as root? |
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| 16:20.40 | Gnea | uro_s: any luck? |
| 16:20.41 | drasko | Hi all. I am trying to copy system file from Windows ditectory on NTFS partition to other directory on the same partiton, but I am getting message: cp: cannot remove `../system32/config/system': Read-only file system. |
| 16:20.49 | drasko | What's wrong? |
| 16:20.55 | uro_s | i set touchpad as driver=mouse, option corepointer, device=/dev/input/mice |
| 16:21.01 | lewis | what about POP3 server, compared to a IMAP server? can anyone give numbers difference? |
| 16:21.10 | formorer | drasko: NTFS writing won't work so the FS ist read only |
| 16:21.11 | drasko | mount gives me: /dev/hda1 on /media/winC type ntfs (rw) |
| 16:21.20 | uro_s | i set mouse as driver=usbmouse, no corepointer option and device=/dev/input/mouse1 |
| 16:21.24 | Gnea | drasko: NTFS writing isn't truely possible with the default driver |
| 16:21.26 | uro_s | still doesnt work |
| 16:21.37 | Gnea | uro_s: can you paste your xorg.conf to the paster site? |
| 16:21.38 | Gnea | !paster |
| 16:21.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 16:21.40 | uro_s | it only goes up and down |
| 16:21.40 | drasko | Gnea, how to fix this? |
| 16:21.41 | blondie | drasko: you're trying to move, not copy, and it won't work |
| 16:21.46 | uro_s | Gnea, ok |
| 16:21.50 | formorer | drasko: use windows for ntfs writing |
| 16:21.53 | blondie | drasko: if you want to copy, use "cp" |
| 16:22.16 | drasko | formorer, can not boot in the Windows - I am trying to repair it. |
| 16:22.22 | aidan | How can I fix this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/DLaqe222.html |
| 16:22.28 | Gnea | !ntfs |
| 16:22.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 16:22.30 | blondie | drasko: get a windows boot cd |
| 16:22.57 | formorer | drasko: I'm sorry but you shouldn't rely on a linux to repair a ntfs.... |
| 16:23.02 | formorer | drasko: most time it will not work |
| 16:23.07 | drasko | Windows just wont boot, and it hangs when I inser boot cd... |
| 16:23.26 | drasko | Just won't boot from CD |
| 16:23.48 | drasko | it hangd after message: inspecting hardware... |
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| 16:24.20 | drasko | any ideas? |
| 16:24.29 | drasko | I just have to write on ntfs.. |
| 16:24.33 | drasko | How to do this? |
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| 16:26.29 | uro_s | Gnea, man i cant paste with this fu.cking touchpad |
| 16:26.34 | abrotman | drasko: you don't want to |
| 16:26.57 | uro_s | Gnea, i will send you conf file ok ? |
| 16:27.40 | Buchannon | I just made a new debian sarge install on one of my comps. I have exim4 all set up (or so I thought). It will send mail, but not receive it... any ideas? |
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| 16:28.08 | Gnea | uro_s: that won't work... hold on, i'll paste mine |
| 16:28.27 | Gnea | uro_s: btw, what laptop is it? |
| 16:28.36 | uro_s | prestigio nobile 157 |
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| 16:28.44 | Gnea | !laptop |
| 16:28.45 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 16:30.41 | drasko | abrotman, I have to copy just system file from repair folder to system32/config folder... I have no other way. Boot CD hangs after saying: inspecting your hardware - so I can not boot in console... I do not know what else to try :( |
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| 16:31.13 | redphoenix1 | ok got it working woot! |
| 16:31.18 | wwallace_lap | hello abrotman how r u? |
| 16:31.42 | wwallace_lap | thanks |
| 16:32.09 | wwallace_lap | what version of mame should i install if im using xorg 7.0.0? |
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| 16:32.47 | abrotman | drasko: you'll have ot use captiventfs .. that's the only way i know of |
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| 16:32.55 | abrotman | !tell drasko about captiventfs |
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| 16:34.41 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: wtf you dont hi your old friends? |
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| 16:34.55 | Gnea | uro_s: okay, i found something else, check this out: http://tuxmobil.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s7-pointing-devices.html |
| 16:35.28 | cippuz | hi guys, i continue to have errors about ipw2200 in dmesg |
| 16:35.33 | Gnea | !paster |
| 16:35.33 | wwallace_lap | what version of mame should i install if im using xorg 7.0.0? |
| 16:35.33 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 16:35.45 | Gnea | wwallace_lap: the latest works fine |
| 16:35.52 | abrotman | troll |
| 16:35.53 | wwallace_lap | what is the latest? |
| 16:36.01 | Gnea | the latest. |
| 16:36.15 | wwallace_lap | can you tell me tghe package name? |
| 16:36.18 | cippuz | valdyn, can you help me? |
| 16:36.20 | abrotman | Gnea: i suggest you put him on ignore .. he's a troll .. and probably not even running debian |
| 16:36.20 | Gnea | uro_s: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2729 |
| 16:36.29 | aidan | okay, got mysql working with backports, that's nice |
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| 16:36.34 | Gnea | wwallace_lap: apt-cache search mame <-- you can find it yourself with that |
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| 16:36.46 | Gnea | abrotman: acknowledged |
| 16:36.48 | valdyn | cippuz: if you tell the errors, maybe |
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| 16:37.03 | magyar | hi all, i got sasl brake-in attempts, any way to avoid them? |
| 16:37.08 | cippuz | "ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting." |
| 16:37.15 | cippuz | "ipw2200: Sysfs 'error' log captured." |
| 16:37.24 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: you suck a ficking cock why dont you sht the fuck up? and let the others have an opinion about me? after all im not a gold coin i may be a troll to you but not to other you fuv king cocksucker |
| 16:37.45 | wwallace_lap | thanks Gnea |
| 16:37.46 | uro_s | Gnea, this is like mine conf for touchpad |
| 16:37.47 | valdyn | cippuz: what are you doing to get that error? |
| 16:37.49 | bonez39 | magyar, I'd like to find a cost effective cam solution...that works well with debian...to monitor my home front and back doors... |
| 16:37.58 | cippuz | when i acquire ip address from dhcp and launch dmesg everything it'sok |
| 16:37.59 | abrotman | Gnea: see |
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| 16:38.03 | cippuz | valdyn, dmesg |
| 16:38.06 | aidan | how do I purge configuration files again? apt-get remove --purge won't work as the package is already uninstalled |
| 16:38.28 | valdyn | cippuz: i meant, what are you going to trigger that error |
| 16:38.29 | magyar | bonez39: me too |
| 16:38.49 | Gnea | wwallace_lap: your attitude sucks ass, do not say those things to anyone in here ever again. |
| 16:38.50 | cippuz | only when wifi card begins to send and receive packets i get this error.. |
| 16:39.00 | Gnea | wwallace_lap: unless you want to be forcibly removed. |
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| 16:39.01 | wwallace_lap | hes an ashole |
| 16:39.02 | abrotman | Gnea: wwallace_lap is a troll that comes in here .. harasses me .. asks a stupid question he knows the answer to .. then leaves |
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| 16:39.15 | wwallace_lap | everytime i ask something he call me a troll so fuck him |
| 16:39.16 | Gnea | wwallace_lap: take your opinion and go elsewhere then. |
| 16:39.24 | Gnea | !troll wwallace_lap |
| 16:39.28 | wwallace_lap | dont believe him Gnea |
| 16:39.32 | stew | wwallace_lap: stop. chill out. |
| 16:39.47 | wwallace_lap | Gnea: how weak of personality are you |
| 16:39.48 | war92 | After going to Xorg 7.0, did anyone else's fonts get screwed up? My fonts don't look right anymore. |
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| 16:40.05 | Yan^ | hello people, if I want to have three types of keyboard available at debian (etch) how should I proceed? |
| 16:40.08 | abrotman | Gnea: believe me .. or the guy who just spit out 37 curse words before hitting enter :) |
| 16:40.19 | drasko | Windows boot CD hangs after wring out message: inspecting hardware... Any experiences? |
| 16:40.35 | valdyn | cippuz: still there? |
| 16:40.38 | Gnea | !ops wwallace_lap is offtopic, has a bad attitude, calls other people names, and is disruptive. /ignore is in use. |
| 16:40.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: gnea complains about: wwallace_lap is offtopic, has a bad attitude, calls other people names, and is disruptive. /ignore is in use. |
| 16:40.50 | abrotman | drasko: this isn't a windows support channel .. you can try to use captiventfs in a liveCD to do it .. but debian doesn't have a liveCD |
| 16:40.54 | cippuz | valdyn, what? |
| 16:40.56 | bhagabhi | war92: updated to 7 and fonts are alright, though I cannot find the volume-control icon of gnome... |
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| 16:41.09 | valdyn | cippuz: what are you doing to trigger that error? |
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| 16:41.39 | abrotman | and then he's quiet .. nice |
| 16:41.40 | Gnea | uro_s: sorry about that - forget about the touchpad for now and just work on the usb mouse |
| 16:41.44 | cippuz | (18:39:04) cippuz: when wifi card begins to send and receive packets i get this error.. |
| 16:41.48 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: fuck you bitch |
| 16:41.51 | Gnea | uro_s: make sure it works fine, then go back to the touchpad |
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| 16:41.55 | drasko | abrotman, I am in Debian right now... I can try to fix it from here, but I suppose it is some kind of universal problem - why would boot CD hang? |
| 16:42.00 | bonez39 | what the heck? |
| 16:42.04 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 16:42.21 | abrotman | Gnea: i think he's actually a kanotix developer |
| 16:42.31 | Gnea | abrotman: i doubt it |
| 16:42.32 | uro_s | Gnea, maybe i found the problem , restarting xorg |
| 16:42.43 | kreg_dcdi | how do you tell if your dhcp pool is depleted? |
| 16:42.49 | abrotman | Gnea: like i said .. he's a troll ... from jersey no less! |
| 16:42.56 | stoned | everytime I play something in fullscreen using sdl/gl it spans both monitors and it looks horrible. How can I make it so that it stays on one display when in fullscreen. I am using twinview dualhead |
| 16:42.58 | Gnea | abrotman: nothing new there :) |
| 16:43.09 | abrotman | heh |
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| 16:43.19 | cippuz | valdyn, have you read how i get the error? |
| 16:43.41 | valdyn | cippuz: yea, with dmesg, but i already knew that |
| 16:43.50 | Tylerofl | does anyone know of an snes emulator supported by the amd64 architecture? |
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| 16:44.02 | abrotman | Tylerofl: apt-cache search snes |
| 16:44.13 | war92 | bhagabhi: ah |
| 16:44.35 | cippuz | valdyn, ok, but I get that lines when wifi cards starts to send and receive packets |
| 16:44.48 | Tylerofl | actually, better yet |
| 16:44.54 | Yan^ | I mean I understand how to manage two different keyboard settings : english and russian. But now I want to add the option with japanese keyboard layout. What should I add to xorg.conf? |
| 16:45.04 | Tylerofl | a way to get applications from other builds running on amd64 |
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| 16:45.36 | bonez39 | magyar, mind if I /msg you? |
| 16:45.46 | valdyn | cippuz: ok, hold on |
| 16:46.21 | mo1991 | can someone help me with viewing samba networks in sarge with gnome file manager? I can view my samba shares from windows and see my "debian" computer in network in gnome but can't see the shared printer or home folders in linux |
| 16:46.25 | stef_ | hello, when I try to enable dma using hdparm, I get this: "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted". Any idea why? |
| 16:46.27 | cippuz | valdyn, ok |
| 16:46.48 | mo1991 | I might need the smb client set up differently or something? |
| 16:46.49 | abrotman | MYTUBA! |
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| 16:47.29 | streuner | stef_: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 16:47.47 | stef_ | Linux version 2.6.16-2-686 (Debian 2.6.16-14) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.4 20060507 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.3-3)) #2 Mon May 22 23:10:59 UTC 2006 |
| 16:48.20 | valdyn | cippuz: you need to get a newer driver and hope that problem is fixed. |
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| 16:48.39 | nukemecca | stef_: Does your IDE controller and all the devices on the channel in question support DMA? |
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| 16:48.49 | honschu | How to delete the mbr? |
| 16:49.03 | nukemecca | stef_: Maybe you have a pioneer dvd drive or some other device on there that won't do dma. |
| 16:49.09 | valdyn | cippuz: you already do have debs with the newer ieee80211 stack and the ipw2200 module |
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| 16:49.30 | stef_ | nukemecca: the device supports udma6, and so does the ide controller. I used to be able to enable dma on the hard drive. |
| 16:49.44 | cippuz | valdyn, ok i try with a newer firmware.. |
| 16:49.45 | mo1991 | anyone here help me with getting gnome's samba client to work? I can view my samba shares fine in windows but not from either of my sarge machines |
| 16:49.48 | nukemecca | stef_: Probably just an incompatibility between the kernel and the controller then. |
| 16:49.54 | honschu | How to delte the MBR? I always get a "Grub Error 2" so I want to reinstall it into a clean MBR. |
| 16:49.57 | valdyn | cippuz: there is newer firmware? |
| 16:50.10 | streuner | stef_: what kind of device? |
| 16:50.11 | nukemecca | stef_: there might be some funky boot parameter or something to fix it, or else you just can't use that kernel with that controller |
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| 16:50.41 | valdyn | cippuz: you should use the firmware that fits to your driver, nothing else |
| 16:50.44 | stef_ | streuner: a hard drive. I don't know what kind of drivers I need for the IDE chipset... |
| 16:50.47 | nukemecca | stef_: i'll prolly get flamed for saying this but I hate debian kernels personally, if I were you i'd just build a vanilla 2.6.16 |
| 16:51.04 | valdyn | cippuz: which version your driver is should be visible in dmesg when you load your ipw2200 module |
| 16:51.14 | stef_ | nukemecca: that's why i went from slack to debian, to get rid of having to compile things |
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| 16:51.44 | lewis | where can I check the status of vexim becoming a debian package? (or does anyone know what the status is?) |
| 16:51.45 | streuner | stef_: what kind of magic is in vanilla kernels which debian doesn't have? ;-) |
| 16:51.49 | nukemecca | stef_: well one thing to look for might be if you are loading the most specific driver for the ide controller in question. I.E. if it is a VIA 82686B, make sure you are loading the via_82xxx driver |
| 16:51.52 | valdyn | cippuz: now if you are right now simply using a firmware that is not for your driver version, the error is obvious |
| 16:52.08 | simonrvn | /nick nukewashington |
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| 16:52.21 | nukemecca | streuner: how about not needing an initrd because you can build it with only the drivers you need built in |
| 16:52.24 | stoned | how does one limit fullscreen to only one display. this doesn't seem to be a windowmanager issue because this happens only in fullscreen sdl |
| 16:52.26 | nukemecca | that's "magic" |
| 16:52.33 | cippuz | valdyn, done, i reboot? |
| 16:52.40 | valdyn | cippuz: done what? |
| 16:52.56 | valdyn | cippuz: did you read what i posted above? which version is your driver? which firmware are you using? |
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| 16:53.01 | stef_ | this is what lspci -v outputs: |
| 16:53.03 | nukemecca | stew: lspci should tell you what chipset you have (intel, serverworks, sis, via, etc) |
| 16:53.05 | stef_ | 0000:00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) |
| 16:53.06 | stef_ | 0000:00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller ATI (prog-if 82 [Master PriP]) |
| 16:53.07 | streuner | stef_: it doesn't give any add. features, right? |
| 16:53.12 | nukemecca | oooh that's a good one |
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| 16:53.25 | nukemecca | ATI IDE -- never seen that before actually |
| 16:53.33 | stef_ | streuner: nukemecca was suggesting that I use vanilla kernel, not me |
| 16:53.37 | cippuz | valdyn, i removed old firmware files and put the oldest |
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| 16:53.47 | valdyn | cippuz: geez |
| 16:53.51 | streuner | stef_: yes, sorry, that was for him :-) |
| 16:53.56 | valdyn | cippuz: which version is your driver? |
| 16:53.57 | cippuz | valdyn, i don't know how read version |
| 16:54.06 | Derevko | hello, my df -h say: /dev/md0 815G 129M 773G 1% /home . There are about 42 GB missing... How it is possible? |
| 16:54.15 | valdyn | cippuz: modprobe -r ipw2200 && modprobe ipw2200, then check dmesg |
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| 16:54.38 | streuner | stef_: did you try another kernel as nukemecca suggest before, what does BTS say? |
| 16:54.44 | stoned | argh, I found it if anyone cares |
| 16:54.47 | stoned | setting a single metamode in X.conf works, it just blanks out the second monitor and game isn't stretched across both displays |
| 16:54.51 | tech13 | Is there an easy way to see which font emacs21 is trying to use? (on Xorg, just upgraded to etch yesterday, now just getting the boxes rather then characters. lanugage: english) |
| 16:55.06 | stef_ | streuner: I tried 2.6.16 and 2.6.14. what is BTS? |
| 16:55.28 | streuner | !tell stef_ about bts |
| 16:55.33 | sussudio | Badger Training Staff |
| 16:55.34 | nukemecca | stef_: I dunno much about that specific controller. I know there are some kernel parameters that enable IDE controllers that are actually just ports/modes of SATA controllers (like libata_atapi_enable=1 or something) for some really new chipsets but I am not sure if that applies to ATI |
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| 16:55.44 | Youpi | bts is a french diploma |
| 16:55.57 | streuner | sussudio: train to dig holes? ;-) |
| 16:56.09 | sussudio | nein. |
| 16:56.14 | nukemecca | stef_: did you try the obvious (googling your motherboard/chipset and linux and seeing what you can find) |
| 16:56.18 | sussudio | eat noobs. |
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| 16:56.29 | abrotman | sussudio: do eet! |
| 16:56.30 | streuner | hehe |
| 16:56.44 | stef_ | nukemecca: I don't know what type of motherboard it is... and i can't open up the server |
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| 16:57.13 | nukemecca | well it's an ATI of some sort.. |
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| 16:57.17 | lewis | no one is interested in a vexim debian package? |
| 16:57.17 | nukemecca | ATI chipset |
| 16:57.25 | stew | !dbugs 352811 |
| 16:57.26 | nukemecca | what processor is it? |
| 16:57.28 | dpkg | #352811:I[emacs21] emacs21: Font problem - characters displayed as boxes; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:03:02 UTC |
| 16:57.33 | stew | tech13: see if there is anything usefull in that bug ^^^ |
| 16:57.44 | nukemecca | there might only be one ati IDE chipset, i'm not sure |
| 16:57.49 | nukemecca | i know there aren't very many |
| 16:57.54 | mox | stef_:try lshw, that should tell what chipset you have |
| 16:58.09 | drasko | hi all. I am trying to mount ntfs partition via captive-ntfs (fuse). Whae I mount it, ls won't work: ls: .: Connection refused |
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| 16:58.15 | sussudio | abrotman: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html < ... |
| 16:58.22 | stef_ | mox: thanks, i'll do that now |
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| 16:58.37 | abrotman | sussudio: i thought you weren't going to do that |
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| 16:58.43 | sussudio | abrotman: i'm not. |
| 16:58.46 | stef_ | nukemecca: it's AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ |
| 16:58.47 | simonrvn | lewis: a who? |
| 16:58.50 | Buchannon | I can send mail with exim4, but can't receive it from outside sources. Lets say I have registered the domain name domain1.com and have pointed the DNS towards my router, the router is then forwarding it to my debian machine, but it's not considering itself part of domain1.com for some reason |
| 16:58.54 | uro_s | Gnea, dont work |
| 16:58.59 | abrotman | sussudio: but that's your site! |
| 16:59.19 | nukemecca | stef_: what driver is loaded for it? |
| 16:59.26 | sussudio | abrotman: oftc appears to be rather pathetic with the allowance of TOR and lack of anyone actually talking |
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| 16:59.33 | cippuz | valdyn, i did what you suggested, but i got a error on dmesg |
| 16:59.45 | abrotman | sussudio: well .. that should be fun |
| 16:59.53 | uro_s | Gnea, both devices responds on /dev/input/mice, touchpad responds on mouse0 too , and mouse responds on mouse1 too |
| 16:59.54 | abrotman | sussudio: of course .. the channel ops could ban tor |
| 16:59.55 | sussudio | :-P |
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| 17:00.04 | stef_ | lsmod|grep ati gives me this: ide_core 111440 5 atiixp,generic,ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic |
| 17:00.05 | sussudio | abrotman: one of them is using tor. |
| 17:00.12 | simonrvn | hm, how did i know he's a merkin ... maybe the dumb nick ... |
| 17:00.16 | abrotman | sussudio: weasel is i suppose |
| 17:00.16 | uro_s | Gnea, i tried every combination in xorg conf |
| 17:00.22 | sussudio | abrotman: no. |
| 17:00.26 | abrotman | he's the packager! |
| 17:00.30 | nukemecca | stef_: that's good, so we know you've got the atiixp driver loaded |
| 17:00.30 | valdyn | cippuz: i bet you did, and you deserve it for 'using the oldest firmware' |
| 17:00.48 | valdyn | cippuz: they are flagged with versions for a reason |
| 17:00.51 | nukemecca | stef_: what kind of device is a problem? (hard drive? CD?) |
| 17:00.52 | uro_s | Gnea, maybe it is a module problem , usbmouse module could been wrong for my mouse |
| 17:00.56 | valdyn | cippuz: firmware v2.4 is what you should use |
| 17:00.56 | cippuz | valdyn, "ipw2200: ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2" |
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| 17:01.13 | cippuz | yes, this is qhat i use |
| 17:01.18 | abrotman | sussudio: so who is running the collector on oftc ? |
| 17:01.33 | cippuz | but i receive the same a warning in dmesg |
| 17:01.43 | valdyn | cippuz: just reboot i guess |
| 17:01.58 | jjazz_ | My router doesn't have enough ports. Can I just plug a 4-port switch into one of its ports to create more ports? |
| 17:01.58 | valdyn | cippuz: might have messed up dont know what in the process |
| 17:02.06 | nukemecca | stef_: also does dmesg give any errors/hints about what is going on when the atiixp driver loads? |
| 17:02.10 | abrotman | jjazz_: should be able to |
| 17:02.23 | nukemecca | stef_: usually it should print some info in dmesg about what is happening (including DMA-related) when it loads |
| 17:02.29 | valdyn | cippuz: which firmware were you using before though? |
| 17:02.30 | sussudio | abrotman: a clone of piggy. |
| 17:02.31 | abrotman | sussudio: like i said before .. i'll stay here as long as there are enough people to help .. if it ends up like OFTC is now in here .. i'll go there |
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| 17:02.37 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Yeah, I thought so, but no lights are coming on. Weird. |
| 17:02.50 | abrotman | jjazz_: might need a crossover |
| 17:02.59 | jjazz_ | abrotman: I'll try it. Thanks. |
| 17:03.06 | stef_ | nukemecca: let me check... |
| 17:03.13 | stew | jjazz_: yeah crossover, or if the switch has an upstream or "mdi-x" port, use that |
| 17:03.17 | cippuz | 2.4 |
| 17:03.18 | mo1991 | I can see my samba share in windows (share is from the debian box) but can't see the share from the debian box (which the share runs on) what do I need to setup to client onto my samba shares? smbclient |
| 17:03.20 | Phated | ... ooooh, is today OFTC day? |
| 17:03.27 | abrotman | !oftc move |
| 17:03.27 | dpkg | irc.debian.org is moving to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 17:03.36 | abrotman | i hate it when my HDD makes that noise |
| 17:03.37 | jjazz_ | abrotman: btw, is it too early to whisper Papelbon for MVP? |
| 17:03.38 | pyroplasm | !tell paranoi1 about root |
| 17:03.47 | valdyn | cippuz: ok you had all 7 files there too? |
| 17:03.48 | Phated | \o/ it IS today! |
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| 17:03.58 | abrotman | jjazz_: aye .. it is .. i think i'd rather see him in the rotation |
| 17:04.16 | abrotman | jjazz_: and if hansen heats up .. it might actually happen |
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| 17:04.34 | jjazz_ | abrotman: He's so valuable where he is. Plus, you'd lose him for a couple weeks while stretching him out. |
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| 17:05.03 | abrotman | jjazz_: hansen is supposed to be a better closer .. believe it or not ... |
| 17:05.07 | jjazz_ | abrotman: I'd say keep him in that high-leverage position for as long as you can stand it. |
| 17:05.19 | abrotman | jjazz_: i'm interested to see Lester pitch next week .. if they let him |
| 17:05.25 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Maybe in the long run, but better than what Papelbon is doing right now? Hell no. |
| 17:05.39 | abrotman | jjazz_: he's just getting saves .. rivera could do it too |
| 17:05.58 | abrotman | jjazz_: he's a damn good pitcher .. i'd rather see him starting than closing |
| 17:06.01 | jjazz_ | abrotman: .3 era is impressive, save or no. |
| 17:06.09 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Can he do it over 7 innings? |
| 17:06.13 | stef_ | I found out the chipset: it's ati SB400 |
| 17:06.20 | abrotman | jjazz_: and i bet we were [] close to having clemens! |
| 17:06.21 | nukemecca | stef_: any hints in dmesg? |
| 17:06.32 | abrotman | jjazz_: dunno .. but i'd like to see him try it over 7 innings |
| 17:06.36 | stef_ | nukemecca: nothing. the drivers load up fine... |
| 17:06.44 | nukemecca | stef_: what does it say about DMA? |
| 17:06.48 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Nah, I don't think he ever really considered anything but Houston. The other teams were just in it to make sure they paid him. |
| 17:06.54 | nukemecca | stef_: also i recommend googling ATI SB400 DMA |
| 17:06.58 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:07.08 | stef_ | nukemecca: brb |
| 17:07.26 | jjazz_ | abrotman: What a story that would have made if he returned to Boston, though. |
| 17:07.37 | abrotman | jjazz_: too bad noones likes DHs .. Thome might be MVP then |
| 17:07.45 | abrotman | jjazz_: he should have .. and maybe he might next year |
| 17:07.51 | abrotman | jjazz_: if he pitches again |
| 17:07.51 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Jeter for MVP! |
| 17:07.55 | abrotman | eh .. no |
| 17:08.09 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Batting title, maybe. |
| 17:08.54 | abrotman | jjazz_: at this point .. i'd say .. a pitcher ... |
| 17:09.09 | pdbogen | Is there a package that can undelete files from VFAT? |
| 17:09.10 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Thome could take it. Ortiz and ARod were so close last year that DH made the difference. Thome might run away with it. |
| 17:09.25 | abrotman | jjazz_: if schilling wins 22 and has a 2.xx ERA .. would you give it to him ? |
| 17:09.38 | stef_ | no luck with google. my new question is: did anyone manage to get DMA working on the ATI SB400 chipset? |
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| 17:09.58 | abrotman | pdbogen: nothing i see in apt-cache |
| 17:10.19 | phoohb | Can apt/dpkg list sections/tags? |
| 17:10.28 | abrotman | debtags ? |
| 17:10.30 | jjazz_ | abrotman: 22 wins and era under 3 would put him in the conversation. Depends on who else is out there. Right now Moose is the Cy Young in my mind, and I don't see how a pitcher can take the MVP and not the Cy. |
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| 17:10.48 | jjazz_ | This is the year Moose gets 20 winx. |
| 17:10.55 | jjazz_ | s/winx/wins/ |
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| 17:11.02 | abrotman | jjazz_: it's early for mussina .. he seems to wear down towards the end of the season |
| 17:11.06 | cippuz | valdyn, than i removed it and put 2.0 |
| 17:11.07 | cippuz | sorry |
| 17:11.07 | cippuz | 3.0 |
| 17:11.07 | cippuz | valdyn, and now i reput 2.4 fw |
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| 17:11.09 | abrotman | jjazz_: you know who won't be getting MVP ? |
| 17:11.16 | jjazz_ | abrotman: He hasn't had a start this good... ever |
| 17:11.19 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Who? |
| 17:11.33 | abrotman | jjazz_: johnny damon :) |
| 17:11.35 | phoohb | abrotman: debtags? is that a package?? I want to list the packages on the prompt, that are in a specific section/tag (that are normaly only visible in dselect) |
| 17:11.39 | abrotman | !debtags |
| 17:11.40 | dpkg | [debtags] http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/, or a great system for package searching, or apt-cache show debtags, or the way to go!, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebTags |
| 17:12.10 | abrotman | jjazz_: yes he has .. remember mussina with the orioles? |
| 17:12.26 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Yes, true enough. |
| 17:12.28 | phoohb | abrotman: okey.. thx |
| 17:12.39 | jjazz_ | abrotman: How's crisp doing since his return? |
| 17:12.46 | abrotman | jjazz_: eh .. a homer .. batting well |
| 17:13.01 | abrotman | jjazz_: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6983 |
| 17:13.03 | stew | phoohb: you can search for Sections using grep-dctrl or using aptitude |
| 17:13.25 | abrotman | someday .. i'll switch to aptitude :) |
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| 17:14.12 | heikor | can someone help me? after upgrading from stable to testing my mouse isn't recognized anymore. cat /proc/bus/input/devices doesn't show any handlers for it... |
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| 17:14.21 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Not bad. |
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| 17:14.40 | abrotman | jjazz_: he's doing ok .. i doubt steinbrenner will let any yankee play the WBC next year |
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| 17:14.47 | abrotman | or whenever the next one is |
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| 17:15.03 | abrotman | heikor: try /dev/input/mice .. but modprobe mousedev first |
| 17:15.15 | cippuz | valdyn, any other suggestion? |
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| 17:15.51 | lewis | simonrvn: just can't see any debian package for vexim, and it has been out since 2003 |
| 17:16.08 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Stein doesn't run the team anymore... he's kinda senile. There's been some articles about it. It's pretty sad. |
| 17:16.16 | simonrvn | lewis: what is it? |
| 17:16.30 | abrotman | jjazz_: he's still the boss |
| 17:16.37 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Yes. |
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| 17:16.55 | jjazz_ | abrotman: Anyway, gotta go to the hardware store (it's home construction day in my apt). See ya. |
| 17:17.00 | abrotman | jjazz_: and as messed up as damon now seems .. and how much he cost .. doubt they'll let a yankee play again |
| 17:17.02 | heikor | abrotman: thanks, somehow it works now, although i was pretty sure, i tried that before... |
| 17:17.04 | lewis | exim for virtual domains (virtual exim) - http://silverwraith.com/vexim/ |
| 17:17.04 | abrotman | jjazz_: have fun |
| 17:17.24 | abrotman | heikor: make sure you add mousedev to /etc/modules |
| 17:17.25 | simonrvn | oh yes |
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| 17:18.39 | DimmuR | does anyone knows what happend to gnome-mini-commander applet in unstable? |
| 17:18.46 | abrotman | DimmuR: read the BTS |
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| 17:19.00 | DimmuR | abrotman: BTS? |
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| 17:19.14 | wombachi | bug tracking system |
| 17:19.17 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368528 |
| 17:19.18 | epictetus | DimmuR: Big Tran Sexual |
| 17:19.26 | Gnea | !bts |
| 17:19.27 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 17:19.30 | heikor | abrotman: alright, seems to work, thank you very much..! |
| 17:19.36 | abrotman | heikor: enjoy |
| 17:19.42 | abrotman | Gnea: what is the bts? |
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| 17:20.00 | Gnea | abrotman: your mom will know, ask her |
| 17:20.13 | harfooz | hi all. The recent upgrades in etch removed nvidia-glx. I added sid to my sources and have been trying to get the one-liner to work. However X tells me that there is an API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0.8178, this X module is version 1.0-8762. How do I fix this? |
| 17:20.18 | abrotman | Gnea: STOPS BUGS ... DEAD! |
| 17:20.25 | Gnea | abrotman: RAID! |
| 17:20.32 | Gnea | :) |
| 17:20.33 | sussudio | in soviet russia, bugs report you |
| 17:20.42 | epictetus | harfooz: re-run nvidia's installer |
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| 17:20.46 | Gnea | word to that |
| 17:20.54 | harfooz | epictetus, from the nvidia site? |
| 17:20.59 | zebalin4 | abrotman: beep :-) |
| 17:21.02 | epictetus | yeah. |
| 17:21.02 | harfooz | i.e. not from from sid? |
| 17:21.06 | chealer | harfooz: you update your nvidia kernel module |
| 17:21.10 | epictetus | yeah from nvidia, fuck sid |
| 17:21.15 | harfooz | chealer, how do I do that? |
| 17:21.22 | Maulkin | ... |
| 17:21.25 | abrotman | zebalin4: BEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 17:21.28 | epictetus | harfooz: you re-run the installer to do that. |
| 17:21.34 | abrotman | Maulkin: hi! |
| 17:21.35 | chealer | harfooz: just follow the NvidiaGraphicsDrivers instructions |
| 17:21.43 | Maulkin | I woudn't reccomend using nvidia's installer |
| 17:21.48 | chealer | abrotman: I'm sorry for being useless last night |
| 17:21.49 | epictetus | I would |
| 17:21.50 | epictetus | it works great |
| 17:21.53 | abrotman | s/'s installer/ |
| 17:22.04 | Maulkin | Not really for Debian |
| 17:22.05 | abrotman | chealer: you were? .. i was tired .. wanted to sleep .. |
| 17:22.19 | chealer | abrotman: I was more than tired. I do think I was. |
| 17:22.21 | epictetus | the only time it wouldn't work great is if your kernel sources are fucked up |
| 17:22.22 | tech13 | I had the same problem loading the nvidia drivers, modprobe nvidia worked, but xorg still said unable to load the module. For now, I went back to the nv drivers. |
| 17:22.25 | Maulkin | !nvidia |
| 17:22.26 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 17:22.31 | abrotman | chealer: i dont' remember what it was about :) |
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| 17:22.46 | epictetus | (although if you use debian binary kernel packages, it _is_ pretty likely that your sources are fucked up and don't match your running kernel)\ |
| 17:22.48 | chealer | abrotman: about the stable mozilla-firefox version |
| 17:23.02 | harfooz | The nvidia one-liner is what I've been running, and I still get the API mismatch. |
| 17:23.02 | abrotman | chealer: i was just going on what packages.d.o said .. oh well |
| 17:23.06 | DimmuR | hmm it seems that someone just get rid of mini-commander applet :< |
| 17:23.16 | abrotman | chealer: and the bot thinks it was that version too |
| 17:23.24 | epictetus | harfooz: you might need to rmmod the nvidia driver and modprobe it again |
| 17:23.41 | epictetus | harfooz: if you didn't reboot, maybe the wrong version of the nvidia kernel driver is loaded |
| 17:23.42 | aidan | formorer: how we going? it's almost 3:30 am here :) |
| 17:23.52 | Maulkin | DimmuR: I seem to remember some issue with it, it could be in a different package now. |
| 17:23.57 | harfooz | ah -- maybe a reboot is needed then? |
| 17:23.59 | abrotman | gnome-applets ... |
| 17:24.03 | abrotman | Maulkin: we went over this last time :) |
| 17:24.05 | harfooz | I just restarted X. |
| 17:24.07 | chealer | abrotman: yeah, I guess the bot should be improved for that |
| 17:24.11 | harfooz | Let me try rebooting then. |
| 17:24.12 | abrotman | chealer: not my bot :) |
| 17:24.15 | epictetus | harfooz: a reboot or an rmmod |
| 17:24.16 | Maulkin | abrotman: Ahh yeah, it was you! |
| 17:24.24 | Maulkin | chealer: Send patches to the BTS :) |
| 17:24.25 | abrotman | Maulkin: and i pointed DimmuR at the bug already :) |
| 17:24.28 | harfooz | let me give it a try. |
| 17:24.32 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368528 |
| 17:24.47 | simonrvn | harfooz: older driver? can't run anything past 2.6.15.xx |
| 17:25.04 | tech13 | I'm having some font problems in a few programs (the text is hard to read in the MGT's and emacs21's menu, emacs21 content shows boxes) and Xorg.0.log has "Warning: FreeTypeRasteriseGlyph() returns an error". Broke them by upgrading to etch |
| 17:25.20 | chealer | harfooz: the nvidia one-liner is basically useless if you don't already know how it works...which means it's essentially useless. see nvidia-graphics-drivers instead |
| 17:25.20 | DimmuR | abrotman: i knew about shema bug for long time after you pointed me to this bug i searched list of files in gnome-applets-data for mini-commander expression... |
| 17:25.31 | formorer | aidan: im just waiting for the next d-install run for bpo |
| 17:26.09 | chealer | Maulkin: talking about that...I got my first and only code patch sent to Debian acknowledged today/yesterday :) but I don't know perl :S |
| 17:26.23 | Maulkin | !mini-commander gone is <reply>If your mini commander gnome applet has dissapeared, update your system (See http://bugs.debian.org/368528 for more info). |
| 17:26.24 | dpkg | okay, Maulkin |
| 17:26.57 | Maulkin | chealer: If you don't know pwerl, *don't* look at blootbot. It'll make you cry. |
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| 17:27.47 | abrotman | it'll probably make you cry if you do know perl |
| 17:27.51 | stew | if you do know perl. don't look at blootbot... |
| 17:27.52 | stew | :) |
| 17:27.58 | harfooz | the reboot did the trick! Thanks everybody! |
| 17:27.58 | Maulkin | Good point :) |
| 17:28.09 | chealer | Maulkin: hehe. anyway, I already have a long list of things I would like to work on if I ever get enough time, which excludes blootbot |
| 17:28.13 | epictetus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.14 | Maulkin | heh |
| 17:28.16 | stew | i once tried to turn on strict in the blootbot code... it was ugly |
| 17:28.24 | abrotman | and non-functional |
| 17:28.33 | Maulkin | stew: No. don't do that. It's not a good idea :) |
| 17:28.45 | abrotman | !beer stew |
| 17:28.46 | Maulkin | It is, however, one of my 'long-term plans' |
| 17:28.58 | abrotman | Maulkin: is this after your kids graduate from college? |
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| 17:29.17 | stew | Maulkin: yeah, i saw "strict" in the TODO file and thought it would be easy, just turn it on and start fixing the errors, but then i realized i didn't know enough perl to possibly do that :) |
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| 17:29.54 | Maulkin | stew: :) |
| 17:30.04 | Maulkin | abrotman: I'd first need to have kids, so, erm, yeah |
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| 17:31.37 | abrotman | Maulkin: that was my point! |
| 17:31.53 | aidan | formorer: I don't know what that means :) |
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| 17:33.06 | falco_toadfoot | how do I know if a controller card is supported in libata version 1.02 |
| 17:33.07 | falco_toadfoot | ? |
| 17:33.20 | simonrvn | if it boots ;p |
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| 17:33.27 | linolium | how can I get rid of "skipping already loaded module x" messages? |
| 17:34.03 | stef_ | is there a kernel option i can add to grub to enable dma on boot? |
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| 17:35.15 | Johnny | hello buddies |
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| 17:35.38 | janz | oi........ mee again . I tried to set X with xf86cfg on sarge r2, got nVidia GeForce MMX440, set the driver correctly, nothing works ... anybody knows wherewould be the problem??? |
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| 17:35.52 | janz | i got only 800x600 resolution |
| 17:35.58 | janz | @75 Hz |
| 17:35.59 | falco_toadfoot | linolium: such info messages are just that..info. turn off your screen if you want them to go away :) |
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| 17:37.01 | janz | please........ i want to use Debian, bot not with that graphics........ |
| 17:37.02 | linolium | falco_toadfoot: I guess what I'm trying to say is why does debian try to load those modules twice? |
| 17:37.02 | DimmuR | Maulkin: i searched via apt-file (ofc updated) fo mini-commander and seems there is no longer in debian unstable :< |
| 17:37.35 | falco_toadfoot | linolium: probably because it runs some init scripts several times, but I'm not sure |
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| 17:38.00 | falco_toadfoot | look in /etc/rc*.d/ |
| 17:38.18 | Johnny | what happens if I run IRC as root? |
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| 17:38.31 | Johnny | is there any security probs? |
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| 17:38.48 | nicoco | hi ! every time i launch xdtv, my screen becomes black, i hear tv sound but to see anything i have to "ctrl+alt+F1" and go back to "ctrl+alt+F7". anyone knows something about that ? |
| 17:38.50 | Blissex | Johnny: probably... |
| 17:38.56 | falco_toadfoot | Johnny: there are always greater security risks when you run something as root |
| 17:39.01 | Youpi | Johnny, we have a socket open with root privileges |
| 17:39.10 | Johnny | aha |
| 17:39.12 | Youpi | anything should be local when root |
| 17:39.18 | Youpi | nothing from outside |
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| 17:39.29 | Youpi | no interactive stufs |
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| 17:39.39 | Johnny | so the probs is, I'm most of the time root, ie single user |
| 17:39.54 | Johnny | but I want to run IRC not as root |
| 17:40.06 | paulswm | Johnny: sudo |
| 17:40.12 | formorer | aidan: this are the internal archive script |
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| 17:40.25 | formorer | aidan: do an apt-get update - it should be installable now |
| 17:40.26 | Johnny | so how do I use sudo, something like sudo user pass? |
| 17:40.53 | paulswm | Johnny: man sudo ('sudo -u ...') |
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| 17:42.28 | Johnny | yes I did sudo -u user but permission denied is the result |
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| 17:42.46 | Johnny | i did useradd -p xxxx user |
| 17:43.11 | paulswm | Johnny: Did you read the sudo man page? |
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| 17:44.27 | Johnny | yep |
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| 17:45.00 | Johnny | still not solved... adding the user didn't help, i cannot login with that userid on vt |
| 17:45.29 | Johnny | paul, any idea, where the prob may lie? |
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| 17:45.49 | paulswm | Johnny: sudo -u user from root works for me |
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| 17:46.33 | paulswm | Johnny: your sudoers file has 'root ALL=(ALL) ALL' in it? |
| 17:46.46 | Johnny | for me its this: sudo -u myuserid ls |
| 17:46.47 | Johnny | ls: .: Permission denied |
| 17:47.10 | Johnny | lemme see... oops |
| 17:47.55 | simonrvn | spoo |
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| 17:48.26 | Johnny | yes its there |
| 17:48.31 | aidan | formorer: awesome, running now |
| 17:48.35 | althaser | how can I disabled klogd logging ? please |
| 17:48.36 | formorer | :) |
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| 17:49.27 | Johnny | althaser: killall klogd??? not really, better ways are there |
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| 17:49.45 | tethead | howdy |
| 17:50.12 | paulswm | Johnny: If you are trying to list a directory for which your user doesn't have read permission, you're going to get that, it's a message from ls, not from sudo |
| 17:50.12 | tethead | can anyone help a relative n00b with disk partitioning/mounting? |
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| 17:50.41 | althaser | Johnny: I haven't klogd running :-P |
| 17:50.54 | Johnny | he he |
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| 17:51.49 | UkT|Flav | hi i'm looking for the command when you delete config file of a debian package, i don't remember the name |
| 17:51.49 | Johnny | okay I got it paul, thanks, my xchat isn't running with it either cos : Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 17:51.49 | Johnny | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 17:51.50 | Johnny | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 17:51.50 | Johnny | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 17:51.50 | Johnny | (xchat:3584): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 17:51.50 | UkT|Flav | someone can help me? |
| 17:51.50 | UkT|Flav | thanks |
| 17:51.50 | aidan | formorer: everything worked perfectly! |
| 17:52.09 | aidan | formorer: I'm missing some though ... # dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{ print $2; }' -> php5-pdo-mysql, php5-pdo-sqlite, php5-pear |
| 17:52.48 | aesxa | How do I install fonts? |
| 17:52.56 | aesxa | I'm using defoma I think, and some X.org |
| 17:53.05 | formorer | aidan: I don't know what pdo-sqlite is.... |
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| 17:53.20 | tethead | can anybody help me find out the physical address of an attached IDE drive? |
| 17:53.36 | tethead | and then, how to partition/mount it? |
| 17:53.41 | formorer | aidan: but there is mysql support inside the php I uploaded |
| 17:53.45 | aidan | formorer: PDO is "php data objects", it's a PECL extension. PDO replaces all the database drivers in PHP |
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| 17:54.07 | UkT|Flav | What's the command line when a config file is deleted Please?? Thanks ! |
| 17:54.07 | formorer | aidan: aha |
| 17:54.32 | aidan | UkT|Flav: dpkg --purge ? |
| 17:54.46 | formorer | aidan: is this in debian yet? |
| 17:54.54 | aidan | formorer: I'll check, it's in dotdeb |
| 17:55.04 | formorer | I don't know about dotdeb :) |
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| 17:55.15 | _edwin_ | hello |
| 17:55.24 | UkT|Flav | not, apt-get dont make the init.d ... |
| 17:55.26 | _edwin_ | what is the number of links on a directory used for? |
| 17:55.37 | UkT|Flav | dpkg --purge isn't enough |
| 17:55.45 | tethead | can anybody help me find out the physical address of an attached IDE drive? |
| 17:55.46 | _edwin_ | in reiserfs if you exceed 0xfff-1000 nr. of subdirectories in a directory, the no. of links is set to 1 |
| 17:56.08 | _edwin_ | if (i->i_nlink >= REISERFS_LINK_MAX) i->i_nlink=1; |
| 17:56.31 | UkT|Flav | aidan: it exists a solution with a "hard" syntaxt :: .... :: |
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| 17:57.13 | althaser | which package gives me xorgcfg command ?? please |
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| 17:57.42 | aesxa | althaser, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
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| 17:58.14 | aidan | formorer: I can't find it, it's in FC4, but the debian package search seems to be down |
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| 17:58.20 | aesxa | so... if I install a font through KDE's font viewer, does that make it usable everywhere? |
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| 17:58.36 | thazer | DCC SEND "1234567890123456789" 000 |
| 17:58.38 | formorer | aidan: ehm, its not, I used it a few min. ago |
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| 17:58.55 | dan_ | what can i do if a drive doesn't show up on 'df'? |
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| 17:59.06 | simonrvn | !ops thazer DCC exploit |
| 17:59.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: simonrvn complains about: thazer DCC exploit |
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| 17:59.07 | aidan | "The Debian search engine has been disabled for now. We're working on it." |
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| 17:59.12 | aidan | am I looking in the wrong place? |
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| 17:59.42 | simonrvn | aidan: do it from google ... |
| 17:59.45 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 17:59.48 | althaser | aesxa: thanks ;) |
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| 18:00.08 | UkT|Flav | What's the command line when a config file is deleted Please ( /etc/init.d ) debian don't re make it ! ?? Thanks ! |
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| 18:00.20 | aesxa | np :) |
| 18:00.24 | simonrvn | UkT|Flav: /msg dpkg force-confmiss |
| 18:00.26 | aidan | nope, doesn't look like it |
| 18:00.42 | aidan | formorer: php5-pear is, is there a backport for that? |
| 18:00.42 | tethead | dunno UkT|Flav |
| 18:00.50 | simonrvn | UkT|Flav: er, confmiss |
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| 18:01.21 | dan_ | what can i do if a drive doesn't show up on 'df'? i know it's attached to the system |
| 18:01.28 | chealer | !tell aidan about pdo |
| 18:01.34 | simonrvn | df /dev/foo3 |
| 18:01.44 | ab3l | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.48 | simonrvn | or df /partition |
| 18:01.52 | formorer | aidan: not yet |
| 18:01.53 | christor_ | Please someone can help to debug a wifi problem? I can t connect my modem :( , I m using an open network to do the test and I ve installed the madwifi drivers , the ath0 is existing but I can t find an IP by DHCP |
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| 18:02.01 | aidan | formorer: okay |
| 18:02.05 | formorer | aidan: wait |
| 18:02.06 | simonrvn | er, /mountpoint should be the last one |
| 18:02.27 | dan_ | simonrvn: what if it's not partitioned? |
| 18:02.37 | chealer | ab3l: that's horribly outdated. you should have a serious reason to run that |
| 18:02.37 | UkT|Flav | what the bot command to show option of confmiss please? |
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| 18:03.06 | simonrvn | dan_: it'll only show if it's mounted. otherwise use cfdisk or fdisk |
| 18:03.17 | quitte | simonrvn: doesn't work for me. if the device isnt mounted i always get information for tmpfs |
| 18:03.29 | simonrvn | UkT|Flav: i just told you. /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 18:03.35 | ab3l | (it takes me too much to compile the new and an image : well i'ven't been able to find any ) |
| 18:03.46 | ab3l | btw there that module chealer ? |
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| 18:03.52 | ab3l | there's |
| 18:03.53 | simonrvn | quitte: read above ... |
| 18:04.12 | chealer | ab3l: why do you compile your kernel? |
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| 18:04.37 | ab3l | there's an image for 2.6.18 ? |
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| 18:05.51 | zakaluka | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.55 | chealer | ab3l: 2.6.18? what are you talking about? there's a huge difference between 2.6.2 and 2.6.18 |
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| 18:06.22 | chealer | zakaluka: #gentoo is that way, a bit under Hell |
| 18:06.22 | jbroome | yeah, like .16 worth of difference |
| 18:06.23 | ab3l | u said mine 2.6.2 is the old one ;) |
| 18:06.33 | chealer | jbroome: .0.16, even |
| 18:06.39 | ab3l | 2.6.18 should be the new ? |
| 18:06.46 | jbroome | chealer: stupid math. :) |
| 18:06.48 | simonrvn | !kernel |
| 18:06.50 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.19, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc5, snapshot: 2.6.17-rc5-git10, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 |
| 18:06.55 | chealer | ab3l: Linux 2.6.18 is not yet released |
| 18:07.01 | simonrvn | there is no 2.6.18 |
| 18:07.02 | zakaluka | chealer: sorry, apparently my computer can't keep up with my fingers... |
| 18:07.24 | ab3l | well 2.6.16.19 then ;=) |
| 18:07.29 | formorer | aidan: ehm: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/php-pear_5.1.2-0bpo1_all.deb ; there is already a pear package |
| 18:07.34 | ab3l | btw i ned the i2c not a krnel |
| 18:07.35 | ab3l | ;) |
| 18:07.38 | UkT|Flav | argh |
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| 18:07.41 | quitte_ | gah. how can it be so cold? its june! |
| 18:07.48 | UkT|Flav | confmiss syntax doesn't work |
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| 18:08.02 | aidan | formorer: ah that is so weird, I swear I checked :( |
| 18:08.22 | aidan | ah, I looked for php5-pear |
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| 18:09.04 | dan_ | simonrvn: ok, my main boot drive, which appears under 'df' is sda1. i have an 'hda1' that appears when i run cfdisk, but the sda1 doesn't appear there. is that normal? |
| 18:09.04 | rhalff | quitte_, pollution, rainforrest things and stuff... :) |
| 18:09.29 | quitte_ | rhalff: isnt it supposed to become warmer by that? |
| 18:09.47 | rhalff | probably depends on where you live |
| 18:11.08 | quitte_ | idiots are even putting sun protection foils on the mountains to keep the snow because they were scared itd all be gone soon. so it should be warmer here i think |
| 18:12.03 | xmb | 300 public scripts @ http://xmb.ath.cx/code/?C=M;O=D |
| 18:12.20 | Trewas | ab3l: i2c is included in (at least later) 2.6.x kernels, that might explain if there are no separate patches availabble |
| 18:12.20 | rhalff | quitte_, hmm http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/041217_sealevel_rise.html :) |
| 18:13.16 | morten | guys, is it possible to restore a folder you've inadvertently deleted? |
| 18:13.38 | tethead | can anyone lend a hand with reverse domain / routing tables? |
| 18:14.04 | quitte_ | i guess ill switch the heating on again. after more than 2 months it was fine without |
| 18:14.37 | simonrvn | quitte_: climate change makes the weather behave erratically. our elders are totally confused. the only thing we have to go by is our Hopi brothers' and sisters' prophecies |
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| 18:15.09 | exalted | Hi. Any ideas when "banshee" would be a part of the testing? |
| 18:15.14 | quitte_ | im totally confused myself |
| 18:15.46 | simonrvn | join the club ;) |
| 18:15.46 | ab3l | mmm Sarge r2 can be updated to kernel 2.6.16.19 ? |
| 18:15.51 | Coweater | exalted: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=banshee |
| 18:16.40 | exalted | Coweater, thank you. |
| 18:16.40 | simonrvn | gtg. bbl |
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| 18:17.22 | MoDaX | ab3l: yes. but you will need to backport udev at least |
| 18:17.35 | MoDaX | and initramfs-tools |
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| 18:18.04 | valdyn | eh? |
| 18:18.09 | BoBo`BoSs | what set the time ? |
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| 18:18.51 | pipeline | exalted: When it gets around to it. |
| 18:18.52 | Yan^ | Hello people, does anybody know how to change the keyboard layout (debian etch)? |
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| 18:19.03 | pipeline | exalted: banshee requires the newest gstreamer and newest mono. |
| 18:19.18 | BoBo`BoSs | hey |
| 18:19.24 | exalted | pipeline, Okay, i've got the idea; so it's an technical issue... |
| 18:19.29 | BoBo`BoSs | what set the time ? |
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| 18:20.29 | valdyn | !time |
| 18:20.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, time is found on http://www.time.com/, or 2006.06.03 UTC, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. of no essence here! |
| 18:20.45 | DimmuR | can anyone point me how can i make .deb package from sources received via apt-src? |
| 18:21.21 | valdyn | DimmuR: a) apt-get -b source <packagename> |
| 18:21.31 | rhalff | BoBo`BoSs, ntpdate |
| 18:21.43 | BoBo`BoSs | ntpdate |
| 18:21.44 | valdyn | DimmuR: or cd <sourcetree>; fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage |
| 18:21.44 | BoBo`BoSs | -bash: ntpdate: command not found |
| 18:21.47 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:22.09 | valdyn | !installit |
| 18:22.09 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 18:22.13 | DimmuR | valdyn: but first i should run configure with own parapeters? |
| 18:22.25 | valdyn | DimmuR: not exactly |
| 18:22.26 | BoBo`BoSs | how can i set the clock on my linux sistem |
| 18:22.35 | BoBo`BoSs | what is the command |
| 18:22.47 | valdyn | DimmuR: you can modify the debian build scripts prior to running dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 18:23.08 | valdyn | DimmuR: main script is <sourcetree>/debian/rules |
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| 18:23.42 | ab3l | MoDax : what vcersion of udev i need ? |
| 18:23.52 | valdyn | BoBo`BoSs: ntpdate is fine for networked machines |
| 18:23.55 | falco_toadfoot | BoBo`BoSs: date --set=STRING |
| 18:23.56 | rhalff | BoBo`BoSs, just use something like ntpdate, it synchronizes with a time server at boot time. |
| 18:24.00 | MoDaX | ab3l: from backports.org |
| 18:24.22 | DimmuR | valdyn: thx i search there and read needed manuals :) |
| 18:24.22 | ab3l | apt-get install -> udev is already the newest version. |
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| 18:25.18 | ab3l | and is version 0.056 |
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| 18:26.10 | MoDaX | ab3l: go to www.backports.org and follow instructions how to install a backported package |
| 18:26.15 | BoBo`BoSs | pfff |
| 18:26.15 | phaedrus44 | helllo |
| 18:26.20 | BoBo`BoSs | pls help me |
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| 18:26.32 | nagulator | back |
| 18:26.32 | phaedrus44 | wut you need BoBo ? |
| 18:26.32 | valdyn | !tell BoBo`BoSs -about smart questions |
| 18:26.39 | valdyn | BoBo`BoSs: go and read |
| 18:26.45 | nagulator | so you rae all saying I should try sid and get the latest candy? |
| 18:26.54 | valdyn | nagulator: no |
| 18:27.08 | nagulator | alright :) |
| 18:27.12 | BoBo`BoSs | how can i set the clock on my linux sistem |
| 18:27.14 | BoBo`BoSs | full comand |
| 18:27.18 | Yan^ | hi people, really NOBODY knows about alternative keyboard layouts?? |
| 18:27.31 | BoBo`BoSs | date --set..... |
| 18:27.31 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:27.49 | valdyn | BoBo`BoSs: maybe join a channel of your native language |
| 18:27.49 | MoDaX | BoBo`BoSs: I'm pretty sure KDE and GNOME has nice gui for this task |
| 18:27.49 | MoDaX | have* |
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| 18:28.20 | phaedrus44 | i read the intructions fo xinitrc to have apps auto start when i boot...but i must have done something wrong, what do i put for the apps in xinitrc? |
| 18:28.38 | rhalff | BoBo`BoSs, 'date --help' |
| 18:28.39 | valdyn | phaedrus44: nothing, xinitrc does something else |
| 18:28.55 | MoDaX | BoBo`BoSs: date --set "20060603 21:28:00" should work |
| 18:29.16 | MoDaX | BoBo`BoSs: (as root) |
| 18:29.22 | phaedrus44 | oh really? i read about put gaim & xchat& and last line putting only fluxbox to get these things started at boot |
| 18:29.35 | phaedrus44 | what is the right way? to get thing started at boot? |
| 18:29.56 | BoBo`BoSs | i don`t have kde and gnome only promt :) |
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| 18:30.05 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all! |
| 18:30.08 | H2OyJaBoN | i recive this msg when try mount a pendrive ..."mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device" any solution? |
| 18:30.25 | iswm | So I have an interesting cd-rw issue. I'm able to write cds fine with it until I mount the drive. If I unmount it and then try to burn a cd use k3b, cdrecord, or cdrdao the fail with an OPC error. The only way I can see to get the drive out of that weird state is by rebooting. Ideas? |
| 18:30.28 | valdyn | phaedrus44: xinitrc may be executed when starting X |
| 18:30.30 | BoBo`BoSs | date --set 20060603 21:28:00 |
| 18:30.31 | BoBo`BoSs | date: the argument `21:28:00' lacks a leading `+'; |
| 18:30.32 | BoBo`BoSs | When using an option to specify date(s), any non-option |
| 18:30.32 | BoBo`BoSs | argument must be a format string beginning with `+'. |
| 18:30.32 | BoBo`BoSs | Try `date --help' for more information. |
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| 18:30.59 | MoDaX | BoBo`BoSs: use quotes |
| 18:31.06 | phaedrus44 | vladyn: so do i put the apps i want to start in xinitrc as well? |
| 18:31.24 | valdyn | phaedrus44: how is your X started? |
| 18:31.25 | Wamphyri | is there a cmd with dpkg that will delete a package and all the config files with it? |
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| 18:31.44 | phaedrus44 | i boot straight to xdm, login and then fluxbox starts |
| 18:32.03 | chealer | !tell Wamphyri about purge |
| 18:32.08 | H2OyJaBoN | Wamphyri, do u say apt-get remove <packages> --purge? |
| 18:32.10 | ab3l | MoDax : what the hell updating udev and apt says it will remove 47 mb of stuffs ? |
| 18:32.22 | valdyn | phaedrus44: edit ~/.xsession, put one command per line, put 'exec /usr/bin/fluxbox' into the last line |
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| 18:32.39 | Wamphyri | thank you |
| 18:32.39 | phaedrus44 | ok..ill go brb |
| 18:32.53 | H2OyJaBoN | phaedrus44, if u use debian there is a excellent debian "cook" i can tell u that! |
| 18:33.09 | H2OyJaBoN | Wamphyri, np! |
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| 18:33.23 | phaedrus44 | debian cook? |
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| 18:33.32 | MoDaX | ab3l: installing backports is not easy and risky. together with udev, you will need to upgrade dbus, hal and friends |
| 18:33.39 | Wamphyri | H2OyJaBoN: you were close lol |
| 18:33.54 | H2OyJaBoN | Wamphyri, lol |
| 18:33.54 | ab3l | so i can never get rid of kernel 2.6.8.2 ? |
| 18:33.59 | valdyn | MoDaX: why should he need to do all that? |
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| 18:34.15 | valdyn | MoDaX: for a self compiled kernel.org kernel? |
| 18:34.41 | valdyn | ab3l: why dont you stick to it? |
| 18:34.45 | phaedrus44 | i looked in my users home directory and the only .xsession i have is .xsession-errors |
| 18:34.47 | MoDaX | valdyn: 2.6.16 needs recent udev |
| 18:34.56 | valdyn | MoDaX: no |
| 18:35.06 | MoDaX | valdyn: (for desktop usage) |
| 18:35.38 | BoBo`BoSs | how can i set tcl 4 |
| 18:35.39 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:35.44 | chealer | ab3l: kernel 2.6.8-2 is in the latest stable point release. you can get 2.4.27 or 2.6.8-3 with sarge |
| 18:36.01 | BoBo`BoSs | how can i set tcl 8.4 |
| 18:36.01 | phaedrus44 | i did nano ~/.xsession and a blank file came up |
| 18:36.02 | BoBo`BoSs | :) |
| 18:36.46 | ab3l | no way to get more "fresh" ? |
| 18:36.58 | valdyn | ab3l: what is wrong with 2.6.8-2? |
| 18:37.13 | BoBo`BoSs | valdyn how can i set tcl8.4 |
| 18:37.14 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:37.27 | BoBo`BoSs | grep TCL_VERSION /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh |
| 18:37.29 | BoBo`BoSs | grep: /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh: No such file or directory |
| 18:37.33 | valdyn | !info tcl8.4 sarge |
| 18:37.42 | BoBo`BoSs | !info tcl8.4 sarge |
| 18:37.47 | BoBo`BoSs | !info tcl8.4 |
| 18:37.48 | chealer | ab3l: you're asking if there's a way to get a newer Linux version than 2.6.8.1 while using Sarge? |
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| 18:38.23 | abrotman | i don't think sarge has tcl8.4 ? |
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| 18:38.27 | linolium | hey |
| 18:38.30 | abrotman | !find tcl sarge |
| 18:38.32 | ab3l | yes |
| 18:38.33 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'tcl' (15 of 77): cl-tclink ;; entity-tcl ;; gdtclft ;; gnustep-netclasses ;; hamlib3-tcl ;; hfsutils-tcltk ;; itcl3 ;; itcl3-dev ;; itcl3-doc ;; itcl3.0 ;; itcl3.0-dev ;; itcl3.1 ;; itcl3.1-dev ;; itcl3.1-doc ;; knutclient. |
| 18:38.36 | abrotman | bah |
| 18:38.41 | ab3l | chealer : yes |
| 18:38.42 | abrotman | !find tcl8 sarge |
| 18:38.45 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'tcl8' (9): tcl8.0 ;; tcl8.0-dev ;; tcl8.0-doc ;; tcl8.3 ;; tcl8.3-dev ;; tcl8.3-doc ;; tcl8.4 ;; tcl8.4-dev ;; tcl8.4-doc. |
| 18:38.50 | linolium | I cannot get rid of this warning no matter what I try: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! does anyone know how I can get rid of this? |
| 18:38.50 | abrotman | !lose me |
| 18:38.51 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 18:38.58 | abrotman | linolium: /topic |
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| 18:39.03 | ab3l | that's 'cuz every package i try to install reqwuires new |
| 18:39.21 | valdyn | BoBo`BoSs: you run 'apt-get install tcl8.4' |
| 18:39.25 | chealer | ab3l: while using official packages in Sarge or not necessarily? |
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| 18:39.32 | BoBo`BoSs | k valdyn txs |
| 18:39.34 | abrotman | valdyn: -dev? |
| 18:39.48 | MoDaX | ab3l: for example? |
| 18:39.50 | valdyn | abrotman: guess so |
| 18:39.58 | valdyn | BoBo`BoSs: and get tcl8.4-dev too |
| 18:40.12 | linolium | abrotman: ok... I just did what dpkg told me to and it still says it |
| 18:40.27 | ab3l | both official and not official |
| 18:40.38 | valdyn | linolium: for which repsository? |
| 18:40.48 | valdyn | linolium: ...are you getting that message? |
| 18:40.49 | chealer | ab3l: than yes, it's possible |
| 18:40.55 | abrotman | linolium: what other sources do you have? |
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| 18:41.13 | nkirc | ah cool i'm in the overflow channel |
| 18:41.17 | abrotman | you are? |
| 18:41.33 | linolium | I just have deb http://mirror.peer1.net/debian/ testing main along with debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free and then http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main |
| 18:41.50 | valdyn | linolium: get rid of the non-US |
| 18:41.56 | valdyn | !non-us |
| 18:41.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see ... |
| 18:42.02 | MoDaX | ab3l:official sarge package does not require a newer kernel, that for sure |
| 18:42.26 | MoDaX | that's* |
| 18:42.30 | overnout | there is a problem with legacy nvidia drivers under testing |
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| 18:42.37 | overnout | since the last update |
| 18:42.39 | linolium | valdyn: ok, it works, thanks.. =D |
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| 18:42.41 | ab3l | i mean i try to install Xchat new and it's a hell, i try to install kopete new and it's the same |
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| 18:43.04 | abrotman | what's wrong with xchat in sarge? |
| 18:43.15 | nkirc | !fdisk |
| 18:43.16 | dpkg | hmm... fdisk is the universal problem solver, see http://www.fdisk.it for more information. ALL HAIL FDISK! |
| 18:43.30 | MoDaX | ab3l: oh, those apps have nothing to do with the kernel. they will run even on 2.4 |
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| 18:43.39 | rolo | hello, when i istalled debian, i left a amount of disk space unused and unformatted ... what do i need to do now to format and use it? mount it somewhere? how ? |
| 18:44.01 | valdyn | ab3l: you should get advise on your /etc/apt/sources.list, something is certainly badly broken there |
| 18:44.10 | abrotman | advice! |
| 18:44.17 | valdyn | !advise |
| 18:44.36 | valdyn | !loose |
| 18:44.37 | dpkg | loose is probably the most annoying spelling error. It's LOSE you moron. Unless of course you're using loose in a Madonna sorta way. |
| 18:44.41 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 18:44.44 | madd_matt | rolo, its unformatted? First thing you have to do is format it. Use qtparted or gparted to format and partition the empty space. you can then mount somewhere. |
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| 18:45.04 | phaedrus44 | wooohooo thanks a million valdyn |
| 18:45.12 | Wamphyri | ok after purging apache2 and reinstalling it, the config files didn't come back |
| 18:45.19 | Wamphyri | any particular reason why? |
| 18:45.20 | nkirc | !e2fsck |
| 18:45.27 | rolo | thankyou |
| 18:45.30 | stew | Wamphyri: becuase the config files are owned by apache2-common not apache2 |
| 18:45.40 | Wamphyri | ahh crap |
| 18:45.41 | abrotman | !missconf |
| 18:45.43 | Wamphyri | ok thanks :) |
| 18:45.45 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 18:45.46 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 18:45.48 | rolo | madd_matt, of those 2 applications, whats the easier to learn ? |
| 18:45.55 | BoBo`BoSs | valdyn |
| 18:45.59 | BoBo`BoSs | grep TCL_VERSION /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh |
| 18:46.00 | BoBo`BoSs | grep: /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh: No such file or directory |
| 18:46.10 | madd_matt | rolo, almost the same, but kde native or gnome -- its the same underlying app. |
| 18:46.21 | phaedrus44 | one more thing....is it possible to automatically run root commands when i boot as a user? like iwconfig wlan0 essid, ifconfig wlan0 up, and dhclient ? |
| 18:46.30 | simonrvn | !advise is <reply>what, you wanna advise me to become the president of a foreign country? are you *sure* you aren't a scam artist? you want 'advice', not 'advise' |
| 18:46.31 | dpkg | okay, simonrvn |
| 18:46.33 | MoDaX | ab3l: you want never releases of software. so you can go three ways: backports.org, testing, unstable. all are very risky |
| 18:46.40 | zenhax0r | phaedrus44 : yeah, with sudo |
| 18:47.05 | phaedrus44 | i dont seem to have the sudo command |
| 18:47.15 | simonrvn | abrotman: ^^^^ ;) |
| 18:47.16 | phaedrus44 | i get command not found |
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| 18:47.27 | zenhax0r | phaedrus44 : apt-get install sudo |
| 18:47.31 | paulswm | phaedrus44: install the sudo package |
| 18:47.31 | simonrvn | !installit |
| 18:47.32 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 18:47.36 | ab3l | thy problem is not they're risky... thy problem is apt-get'in em asks such things as this |
| 18:47.37 | ab3l | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 18:47.37 | ab3l | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.37 | ab3l | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:47.38 | MoDaX | ab3l: unless you know what you're doing :) |
| 18:47.50 | phaedrus44 | thanks you very much |
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| 18:48.01 | zenhax0r | phaedrus44 : np |
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| 18:48.27 | linolium | how can I get the zsh shell running on Debian? |
| 18:48.39 | simonrvn | install, chsh |
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| 18:48.40 | MoDaX | ab3l: then upgrade the packages, which apt wants to remove, too |
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| 18:48.43 | zenhax0r | linolium : apt-get install zsh |
| 18:48.50 | newbie4567 | trying to install Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r2 "Sarge" - Official i386 Binary-1 on a compaq presario pentium 4, phoenix bios 3.12...loads linux and initrd and then just reboots. I'm sure i'm making a complete noob mistake but I can't find it. Pls help! |
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| 18:49.10 | linolium | zenhax0r: but after that do I have to configure something to run zsh instead of bash? |
| 18:49.21 | ab3l | btw how do i disable apache2 and samba and postgresql from being loaded at startup ? |
| 18:49.21 | zenhax0r | linolium : yeah, edit /etc/passwd |
| 18:49.25 | madd_matt | to switch your login shell to zsh linolium just edit /etc/passwd and replace /bin/bash next to your username with the path to zsh |
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| 18:49.40 | simonrvn | zenhax0r, linolium: chsh ... |
| 18:49.40 | linolium | lmao, I thought you were kidding at first |
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| 18:49.49 | wombachi | newbie4567 try passing "acpi=off" as kernel parameter |
| 18:49.53 | mick_work | hi everyone, has anyone been able to get the PaX/no-exec kernel patches running? I see that paxctl and paxtest are in Etch - but where do I find the actual pax patch? |
| 18:49.58 | linolium | simonrvn: oh, thanks |
| 18:50.02 | mick_work | as a .deb |
| 18:50.08 | simonrvn | cluebies shouldn't help |
| 18:50.17 | nkirc | simonrvn what is a cluebie? |
| 18:50.19 | BoBo`BoSs | how can i install tcl 8.4 what`s the command to download and install it |
| 18:50.28 | aidan | I can't find the libmysql-dev package for mysql5 |
| 18:50.43 | zenhax0r | simonrvn : ? |
| 18:50.47 | magyar | where does one adjusts logrotate's behavior for mail? |
| 18:50.52 | mick_work | BoBo`BoSs: man apt-get |
| 18:50.56 | madd_matt | BoBo`BoSs, apt-get install tcl8.4 |
| 18:50.57 | newbie4567 | ok will try wombachi |
| 18:51.02 | aidan | oops, should have checked bpo |
| 18:51.04 | newbie4567 | bbs |
| 18:51.05 | kreg_dcdi | the leases in my dhcpd.leases file say they start later than the system clock reports |
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| 18:51.20 | paulswm | linolium: running usermod is preferable to updating /etc/passwd |
| 18:51.21 | BoBo`BoSs | k but didn`t worked |
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| 18:51.28 | BoBo`BoSs | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.29 | BoBo`BoSs | grep: /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh: No such file or directory |
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| 18:51.31 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:51.36 | l1nux_ | hi |
| 18:51.48 | paulswm | s/updat/edit/ |
| 18:51.54 | zenhax0r | simonrvn : both are ways to do it |
| 18:52.07 | l1nux_ | how to purge all uninstaled packages ? |
| 18:52.08 | r121 | slight brainfart, I typed "chown -R abc .*" in a users home directory, hoping to change the owner of all the hidden "dotfiles", but of course that also affected .. (the /home directory) and the my other user's files. so my question is, how do I recursively change the owner of files and directories starting with a . ? |
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| 18:52.24 | H2OyJaBoN | some one can help with a pendrive? |
| 18:52.36 | Naz__ | what's the command for apt-get that's the same as "compleetely remove" in synaptic? |
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| 18:52.47 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, what about the pendrive? |
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| 18:52.53 | Naz__ | like, delete all config files and everything? |
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| 18:53.03 | mick_work | Naz__: --purge |
| 18:53.03 | paulswm | Naz__: apt-get remove --purge |
| 18:53.05 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, i recive this msg when try mount a pendrive ..."mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device" any solution? |
| 18:53.07 | wombachi | r121: something like "find . -type d -name '.*' -exec chown -R abc {} \; |
| 18:53.10 | Naz__ | thaks |
| 18:53.13 | psofa | Does anyone know why module1 would fail to load module2 ,despite module2 not beeing loaded?I can modprobe module2 fine |
| 18:53.24 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, are you trying to mount the right device? |
| 18:53.27 | wombachi | r121: then same with "-type f" to find files instead of dirs |
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| 18:53.54 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, what does dmesg give you when you plug it in? |
| 18:53.57 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, this 's the proble... i don't know what device must mount |
| 18:53.58 | r121 | wombachi: but wouldn't that find .. as well? |
| 18:54.14 | l1nux_ | please, how to purge all uninstaled packages ? |
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| 18:54.32 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, also try at a command line "fdisk -l" see what that givs you |
| 18:54.37 | H2OyJaBoN | usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 |
| 18:54.39 | simonrvn | zenhax0r: they both work, yes. but there's a proper way of doing it |
| 18:54.45 | paulswm | l1nux_: If they're not installed, there's nothing to purge |
| 18:54.55 | zenhax0r | simonrvn : according to you apparently |
| 18:55.02 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, this command show nothing! |
| 18:55.04 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, and thing related to /dev/sdx? |
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| 18:55.17 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, i c . what kind of pendrive do you have? |
| 18:55.27 | l1nux_ | paulswm, i have uninstall some packages, i need to purge it :) |
| 18:55.56 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, try a different USB port. |
| 18:55.59 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, a generic...in knopix i did it! |
| 18:56.03 | r121 | wombachi: cool, that looks like it'll work, thanks |
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| 18:56.17 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, do you have USB mass storage modules installed? |
| 18:56.22 | paulswm | zenhax0r: Yes, the two ways being usermod or chsh - and simonrvn knows what he's talking about, as he always does |
| 18:56.23 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, yes! |
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| 18:56.44 | H2OyJaBoN | i installed that! |
| 18:56.46 | paulswm | l1nux_: apt-get remove --purge, or aptitude purge |
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| 18:57.21 | paulswm | l1nux_: Do dpkg -l|grep ^rc to find the ones which have been removed but have config files still hanging around |
| 18:57.24 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, weird. try ls /dev/sd* u get anything? |
| 18:57.48 | Naz__ | what version off netatalk does Debian 3.1 come with? |
| 18:57.58 | Naz__ | of* |
| 18:58.00 | l1nux_ | paulswm, one by one ? :/ |
| 18:58.02 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, yes much! |
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| 18:58.36 | pppoe_dude | H2OyJaBoN, hmm... can you paste in #flood? |
| 18:58.39 | paulswm | l1nux_: Well you can use cut or awk to make a list of package names |
| 18:58.42 | zenhax0r | paulswm : show me doc where editing /etc/passwd isn't acceptable and i'll shut my mouth |
| 18:58.44 | H2OyJaBoN | pppoe_dude, ok=) |
| 18:59.00 | seb- | possible to turn a non-USB drive into a USB one? |
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| 18:59.18 | pppoe_dude | seb-, with certain hw ya |
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| 18:59.36 | seb- | pppoe_dude: thanks |
| 18:59.38 | krassy | how i can check - do i have broken dependencies ? |
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| 19:00.09 | paulswm | zenhax0r: My decades of Unix experience is the doc :) |
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| 19:00.30 | VanDamme | hello ;) - there's any way to move sound ouput from line-out to spk-out ? |
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| 19:01.10 | quitte | VanDamme: a pair of jumpers next to the line-out port? |
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| 19:01.56 | zenhax0r | paulswm : ok, and i have slightly over a decade, so i guess your additional decade(s) counteract that :) |
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| 19:02.02 | VanDamme | i mean the sound outta lineout is very bad but is the only my soundcard outputs ;9 |
| 19:02.47 | paulswm | zenhax0r: I't's really something not worth aarguing about expect that there's no point having someone root-editing /etc/passwd when there are now safer ways of doing it :) |
| 19:02.59 | quitte | VanDamme: tried lowering the master volume and pcm some? always helped me. |
| 19:03.05 | zenhax0r | paulswm : ok, ok i agree with that |
| 19:04.05 | paulswm | zenhax0r: Just in case the next question is "I rebooted and it's telling me there's no root account" :P |
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| 19:05.12 | zenhax0r | paulswm : i see your point :) |
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| 19:06.30 | DimmuR | valdyn: thx for help - I've successfuly generated gnome-applets and have my mini-commander applet back :] |
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| 19:08.44 | anisFarhana | i know someone from here , but i forgot already his nickname |
| 19:08.45 | anisFarhana | sigh |
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| 19:09.04 | Youpi | this is chanserv |
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| 19:09.37 | anisFarhana | who is expert here with dns server ? |
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| 19:09.55 | anisFarhana | my current domain is dead , i want to change it with another domain name :S |
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| 19:10.57 | _rockstar | If I've got an existing Debian install, can I encrypt the hard drive without borking the install? |
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| 19:13.03 | overnout | hello ! I have updated to xorg 7.0 on debian .. and the nvidia glx legacy packages dissapeard |
| 19:13.16 | overnout | althow the nvidia module driver gets loaded ...i can use Xorg with it |
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| 19:14.44 | sambrista | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:16.17 | sambrista | or something similar... |
| 19:16.24 | Youpi | or a cobra |
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| 19:17.06 | sambrista | what do you mean? |
| 19:17.17 | Youpi | this is a more powerfull snake |
| 19:18.16 | Youpi | you can make it dancing wit ha flute |
| 19:19.03 | jetscreamer | !shaddup |
| 19:19.03 | dpkg | fine, be that way! |
| 19:19.29 | _rockstar | sambrista, I'm in #python right now. However, you'll probably need to get the gnomevfs package. |
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| 19:20.17 | blondie | sambrista: maybe you should ask in #python or something |
| 19:20.32 | Steff_breezy | Hi, if you like to write your own scripts AND if you like to collect non-nude pictures of beautiful models - this is my gift for you: Many gallerys of the model Martina Star are available for free now, picture: http://benjv.free.fr/2bgal/disp_img.php?id_img=3133 . If you want to download the whole thing with one wget script, (like I did), execute the script I posted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15030 . ItĀ“s safe, legal, no |
| 19:20.32 | Steff_breezy | ne-pornografic and free, sounds good, huh? Have fun |
| 19:20.41 | sambrista | _rockstar: i can't access python channel, i need to be identified |
| 19:20.50 | blondie | Steff_breezy: go away |
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| 19:22.03 | sambrista | _rockstar: do you know which python package contains gnomevfs or what do i need to import to use gnomevfs functions? |
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| 19:23.11 | lostson | why when i try to run teh quake3 installer as root does it say No UI drivers available ? |
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| 19:23.25 | _rockstar | sambrista, whatever contains it I can't find in apt. You might need to google. |
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| 19:23.42 | sambrista | _rockstar: ok, thanks anyway |
| 19:23.49 | linolium | anyone know why zsh doesn't seem to be parsing PS1 variables in .zshrc properly? ones like PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\h' just show up like that on the prompt.. it should be colour |
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| 19:24.02 | gan|y|med | hallo |
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| 19:24.31 | VanDamme | HELP I updated kopete and now kde control center is empty |
| 19:24.38 | Kmeist | I CANT UPGRADE! |
| 19:24.56 | _rockstar | Kmeist, details please. |
| 19:25.14 | Kmeist | it wont install mesa-common-dev_6.4.1-0.4_all.deb |
| 19:25.20 | blondie | Kmeist: OH DEAR!!!! |
| 19:25.21 | Kmeist | and I cant do anything with apt-get now |
| 19:25.39 | gan|y|med | i want to compile lame. configure works, but when i do "make" it complains that no targets were defined and that no make control file could be found. any ideas? |
| 19:25.42 | VanDamme | HELP I updated kopete and now kde control center is empty |
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| 19:25.57 | stew | Kmeist: /msg dpkg bat |
| 19:26.16 | Kmeist | okay |
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| 19:26.36 | Kmeist | brb |
| 19:26.57 | _rockstar | gan|y|med, Why not use the apt source? |
| 19:27.00 | VanDamme | HELP I updated kopete and now kde control center is empty |
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| 19:27.26 | jetscreamer | n00bs are supposed to lrun experimental so they can 'experiment' :) |
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| 19:27.41 | _rockstar | VanDamme, we heard you the first time... I use enlightenment, loathe KDE, can't help you. |
| 19:27.57 | newbie4567 | thanks wombachi, the acpi=off flag worked a treat |
| 19:28.00 | jetscreamer | VanDamme: #debian-kde maybe |
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| 19:29.15 | gan|y|med | well, i need a running compiler, this is a good test anyway. i have never had such an error, make just doesn't start at all |
| 19:29.42 | jetscreamer | !b-e |
| 19:29.42 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 19:30.00 | Serinity | _rockstar, speaking of which do you know if a new version of enlightenment is any planned |
| 19:30.01 | Serinity | ? |
| 19:30.17 | jetscreamer | gan|y|med: try being in the dir with the makefile |
| 19:30.25 | jetscreamer | and examine it for targets maybe |
| 19:30.33 | jetscreamer | what are you making |
| 19:30.34 | _rockstar | Serinity, http://www.enlightenment.org -- Check out the e17 alpha... |
| 19:30.40 | Kmeist | Okay, I'm having problems doing an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2730 |
| 19:30.45 | _rockstar | I'd use it permanently if I could find better themes. |
| 19:30.45 | Serinity | ty |
| 19:30.47 | jetscreamer | oh lame nm |
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| 19:30.55 | Gnea | Serinity: yeah, they're gonna go to E18, E19 and beyond... eventually...... :) |
| 19:31.03 | foo | What's a quick lightweight text editing program I can use for debian? GUI based ... otherwise I'd use vim. heh. |
| 19:31.06 | jetscreamer | gan|y|med: why don't you just apt-get it |
| 19:31.21 | jetscreamer | i like gedit |
| 19:31.30 | jetscreamer | nedit is another |
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| 19:31.36 | jetscreamer | fugly |
| 19:31.37 | Gnea | jetscreamer: he said 'lightweight' ;) |
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| 19:31.44 | Youpi | kate |
| 19:31.45 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search editor |
| 19:31.53 | aidan | formorer: I'm getting segfaults doing routine stuff here :( |
| 19:31.53 | rata | hi |
| 19:31.58 | gan|y|med | i am there |
| 19:32.05 | _rockstar | Gnea, Ha! |
| 19:32.06 | gan|y|med | i have Makefile.am Makefile.am.global Makefile.in Makefile.MSVC Makefile.unix |
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| 19:32.10 | Gnea | nedit would definately work |
| 19:32.19 | jetscreamer | !tell gan|y|med -about marillat |
| 19:32.20 | paulswm | nano |
| 19:32.26 | jetscreamer | gui |
| 19:32.32 | paulswm | Ah |
| 19:32.32 | jetscreamer | nano-gui yeah |
| 19:32.40 | Gnea | heh |
| 19:32.40 | jetscreamer | that's it |
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| 19:32.43 | Gnea | gvim |
| 19:32.52 | _rockstar | I use nano most of the time, but on my development system, I use nedit, with syntax highlighting obviously. |
| 19:32.59 | samuel | for gnome is there something like superkaramba? |
| 19:32.59 | paulswm | Heh, it's not often you see 'lightweight' and 'GUI' in the same sentence |
| 19:33.07 | jetscreamer | i choose nano in console |
| 19:33.17 | Gnea | vim7 is... strange |
| 19:33.19 | jetscreamer | just because it's what worked first for me |
| 19:33.21 | stoned | yes you do, xfce |
| 19:33.22 | foo | Hm, don't have nano-gui. |
| 19:33.28 | Vasistha | paulliu: I dunno... I often see the term "lightweight gui"... |
| 19:33.28 | jetscreamer | foo was joke |
| 19:33.35 | gan|y|med | but why does make not work? a repository does not solve my problem |
| 19:34.04 | jetscreamer | gan|y|med: bad makefile, or you need to specify a target maybe.. i dunno |
| 19:34.15 | stoned | yeah yeah |
| 19:34.16 | stoned | make love |
| 19:34.31 | foo | stoned: wha? |
| 19:34.33 | Gnea | it's not sunday yet. |
| 19:34.35 | gan|y|med | it is lame-3.96.1. worked on my last install |
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| 19:34.59 | Gnea | foo: ignore him, he likes to troll and make offtopic remarks |
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| 19:35.11 | paulliu | Vasistha: what do you mean? |
| 19:35.13 | paulswm | Gnea: I haven't been here for a few weeks, have Sundays improved any? |
| 19:35.20 | foo | Gnea: Good idea. I'll ignore him ... let's see what the ops do. |
| 19:35.29 | foo | !ops stoned = troll |
| 19:35.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: foo complains about: stoned = troll |
| 19:35.33 | Gnea | paulswm: just the opposite |
| 19:35.38 | Vasistha | paulliu: oops, wrong paul! I meant paulswm |
| 19:35.40 | paulswm | Gnea: :( |
| 19:35.41 | jetscreamer | if you mean me, you forgot to add 'and sometimes has blinding insights, and when he knows, he does know.' |
| 19:35.45 | stoned | umm |
| 19:35.50 | stoned | wtf? |
| 19:35.54 | Gnea | foo: that's a bit of an early stretch |
| 19:35.56 | chealer | foo: please don't abuse !ops |
| 19:35.56 | paulswm | Vasistha: I was wondering if you'd notice :) |
| 19:36.03 | jetscreamer | !bar foo |
| 19:36.05 | foo | Gnea: err, hmm, alright... I guess you're right. |
| 19:36.08 | jetscreamer | !foo foo |
| 19:36.09 | dpkg | methinks foo foo is bar |
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| 19:36.14 | formorer | aidan: hm? what stuff? |
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| 19:36.26 | foo | chealer: Yeah, my bad. Guess I should of given stoned a few more chances to troll |
| 19:36.37 | stoned | foo, what? |
| 19:36.40 | stoned | when did I 'troll'? |
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| 19:36.58 | jetscreamer | foo: he doesn't do it intentionally though, as you maybe can tell... |
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| 19:37.08 | Gnea | jetscreamer: he doesn't? |
| 19:37.18 | stoned | intentionally, I don't fucking toll to begin with |
| 19:37.18 | jetscreamer | i really don't think so |
| 19:37.28 | paulswm | jetscreamer: I guess his nick is what the FBI would call a "clue" :) |
| 19:37.32 | jetscreamer | or doesn't see it as such |
| 19:37.40 | aidan | formorer: Mantle::Access->isLoggedIn() segfaults it, the method checks $_SESSION and returns true or false, it's a 1 line function. Checking $_SESSION manually doesn't cause problems, unchaining the functions still causes an error on isLoggedIn |
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| 19:37.57 | Gnea | jetscreamer: bad attitudes tend to sway toward trolling, historically speaking |
| 19:38.04 | aidan | formorer: running the same code with PHP-cli doesn't segfault, I'm trying to get a coredump from apache now |
| 19:38.10 | chealer | foo: ...it's the ops who give chances |
| 19:38.12 | aidan | I don't know how to enable it though |
| 19:38.40 | stoned | I've been here a number of years, mostly always helping people, ops know me, not much, but they know I'm not a troll, so kindly go fuck yourselves |
| 19:38.45 | stoned | thanks |
| 19:38.50 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 19:38.52 | foo | Haha. Alright, my bad. |
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| 19:39.09 | chealer | stoned: please watch your language |
| 19:39.18 | stoned | chealer, its not a visual thing mate |
| 19:39.19 | jetscreamer | yes, go crosseyed |
| 19:39.32 | jetscreamer | try for the tongue |
| 19:39.34 | stoned | I can hear my language, I can't quite see it |
| 19:39.37 | rata | i am using testing and try to upgrade to xorg 7. I first install package "xorg", then x11-common(i moved temporaly the /usr/X11R6/bin files), and then upgrade the rest. But when i try to startx it says "Could't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb. Failed to load module bitmap (module does not exist, 0). Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist, 0). Fatal server error: unable to load required base modules, Exiting... " |
| 19:39.49 | Gnea | i can very well *see* the word 'fuck' |
| 19:39.49 | chealer | stoned: no idea what you mean, but it's not an excuse |
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| 19:39.54 | formorer | aidan: there are some problems on amd64 stable if you don't have a special glibc patch (which would be in r2 if it would be available for amd64...) |
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| 19:40.01 | formorer | don't know if thats the reason |
| 19:40.07 | rata | any idea ? |
| 19:40.08 | gan|y|med | ciao and thx |
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| 19:40.17 | Gnea | !xorg7 |
| 19:40.17 | dpkg | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
| 19:40.20 | Gnea | rata: check that ^^ |
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| 19:40.22 | stoned | chealer, im just kidding, and if my language offends you then thats too bad, I don't swear unless I need to. its all good man |
| 19:40.32 | rata | Gnea: i check :S |
| 19:40.32 | jetscreamer | lessee where do i want to go today |
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| 19:40.43 | stoned | jetscreamer, steakhouse? |
| 19:40.46 | rata | Gnea: i mean, i already check that |
| 19:40.48 | _rockstar | I'd like to encrypt my hard drive, but I've got an existing Debian installation on it. Is there a way to encrypt it and keep the data intact? |
| 19:40.53 | jetscreamer | i already pigged out |
| 19:40.57 | stoned | hehe |
| 19:41.02 | Gnea | rata: did you read the bit about /usr/X11R6? |
| 19:41.07 | aidan | # apache2 -X |
| 19:41.07 | stoned | I have to go to work in an hour |
| 19:41.07 | aidan | Segmentation fault |
| 19:41.15 | Gnea | _rain: backups |
| 19:41.19 | aidan | I've got ulimit -c unlimited, why isn't that dumping |
| 19:41.20 | Gnea | uhm |
| 19:41.24 | Gnea | _rockstar: backups |
| 19:41.25 | rata | An other curious thing it is that X -version sais it is X 6.9 |
| 19:41.40 | Gnea | _rain: please disregard |
| 19:41.55 | _rockstar | Gnea, crap... I guess I won't be encrypting this drive anytime soon. |
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| 19:42.18 | valdyn | rata: you didnt actually successfully install xorg, did you |
| 19:42.29 | fightsoul | someone speak french here ? |
| 19:42.35 | valdyn | !depends xorg testing |
| 19:42.35 | Gnea | rata: sounds like you missed a few things |
| 19:42.36 | Gnea | !fr |
| 19:42.36 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 19:42.50 | fightsoul | thx |
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| 19:43.06 | rxed | is there someting like bittorrent for linux? |
| 19:43.16 | valdyn | rata: yes, bittorrent |
| 19:43.31 | valdyn | rxed: ^^^ |
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| 19:43.42 | rxed | they make linux version? |
| 19:43.44 | rxed | wow |
| 19:43.46 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 19:43.50 | rxed | I can't find it on their website. |
| 19:43.50 | jetscreamer | !info stone |
| 19:44.00 | paulswm | rxed: bittorrent or bittornado, there are also GUI packages: 'apt-cache search bittorrent' |
| 19:44.03 | mc____ | rxed, bittorent ist actually only a protocol i think |
| 19:44.04 | stoned | rxed, there are tons of linu torrent clients |
| 19:44.04 | rata | Gnea: Yes... but any package it is upgredeable, and did not find any package important out. I have xorg package and w-window-system package, that are suposed to install al packages, isnt it ? |
| 19:44.11 | aidan | formorer: |
| 19:44.11 | aidan | [Switching to Thread 182925889008 (LWP 27843)] |
| 19:44.12 | aidan | 0x0000002a9a67e717 in mysql_more_results () from /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15 |
| 19:44.13 | valdyn | rxed: its probably developed on linux, its written in python |
| 19:44.24 | jetscreamer | !info cfs |
| 19:44.30 | formorer | aidan: jepp, that looks like the glibc problem |
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| 19:44.32 | Gnea | rata: it *should*, but you may want to try xserver-xorg |
| 19:44.48 | jetscreamer | bittorrent and bittornado both come with gui available |
| 19:44.58 | valdyn | rxed: its on their website, its also in debian |
| 19:45.10 | ChrisW | mmm, where can I find out what I should put in /etc/sudoers to allow my user id to "sudo su -" ? |
| 19:45.12 | rata | Gnea: what ? (sorry, i do not understand, i do not have quite well english :) |
| 19:45.30 | Gnea | ChrisW: man sudoers |
| 19:45.40 | Gnea | rata: apt-get install xserver-xorg |
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| 19:46.01 | rxed | mc____: no, it's not. you need to read up on torrents a little. |
| 19:46.03 | aidan | (gdb) print (char *)(executor_globals.function_state_ptr->function)->common.function_name |
| 19:46.04 | aidan | $1 = 0x2a9a44e3e5 "query" |
| 19:46.10 | rxed | stoned: yes, I know that. I'm looking for a specific one. |
| 19:46.11 | rata | Gnea: it sais it is already in the newest version |
| 19:46.17 | aidan | looks like PDO->query is killing it |
| 19:46.20 | rxed | valdyn: thanks. |
| 19:46.28 | Gnea | rata: then version 7 is probably only in sid |
| 19:46.38 | Gnea | rata: did you apt-get update? |
| 19:46.46 | rata | valdyn: i think i installed... |
| 19:46.47 | marcel__ | what is the status of xserver-xgl? can I find that somewhere? |
| 19:46.52 | ChrisW | Gnea; I don't read EBFN |
| 19:46.53 | valdyn | Gnea: xorg7 is in etch, completely |
| 19:46.53 | rata | Gnea: yes |
| 19:46.53 | chealer | stoned: *shrug* it's not a matter of offending me, I'm a channel "regular". it's a matter of limiting the "channel temperature". |
| 19:46.58 | Gnea | !xgl |
| 19:46.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
| 19:47.08 | ChrisW | and this seems like a simple thing to ask, ratehr than having to learn all the ins and outs of sudo |
| 19:47.16 | marcel__ | thanks |
| 19:47.16 | Gnea | ChrisW: EBFN? |
| 19:47.23 | paulswm | valdyn: Except non-free nvidia drivers, dependencies have been broken for a while now |
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| 19:47.28 | _rockstar | marcel__, I don't think you can find it in any of the official repositories. |
| 19:47.44 | erf | Hi, Im getting an error when using chroot, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 19:47.46 | valdyn | paulswm: oh, possibly, that's just not xorg.. |
| 19:47.52 | Gnea | rata: i don't know then, i don't run etch :/ |
| 19:47.53 | aidan | formorer: where do I find this patch? |
| 19:47.54 | erf | But its in /bin/bash |
| 19:47.58 | Gnea | rata: someone else might know |
| 19:47.59 | ChrisW | Gnea: EBNF, sorry |
| 19:48.00 | _rockstar | valdyn, I think you're mistaken. I'm on etch only because sid is xorg 7 which borks my video card. |
| 19:48.07 | Gnea | ChrisW: again, EBNF? |
| 19:48.11 | chealer | paulswm: NVIDIA's proprietary drivers were already out of Etch, and...as valdyn says |
| 19:48.12 | valdyn | _rockstar: im not |
| 19:48.16 | marcel__ | _rockstar, I saw that the ubuntu release has it |
| 19:48.19 | rata | Gnea: do you use sid ? |
| 19:48.20 | ChrisW | Gnea: manu sudoers ;-) |
| 19:48.26 | Gnea | rata: yes |
| 19:48.34 | _rockstar | marcel__, Ubuntu != etch. |
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| 19:48.49 | valdyn | !info xorg etch |
| 19:48.51 | Gnea | ChrisW: man sudoers <-- works here, explains it with explicit detail :) |
| 19:48.52 | ChrisW | Gnea: "EBNF is a concise and exact way of describing the grammar of a language. Each EBNF definition is made up of produc- |
| 19:48.52 | ChrisW | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.55 | marcel__ | _rockstar, I dont want to install ubuntu for xgl, just waiting for a official debian package |
| 19:49.13 | valdyn | rata: run apt-get update followed by apt-get install xorg |
| 19:49.16 | stoned | chealer, you're right, I apologize |
| 19:49.18 | Gnea | ChrisW: well 'man' is a command and 'sudoers' is an argument |
| 19:49.20 | ChrisW | man sudoers here gives EBNF definitions for everything, which is beyond me |
| 19:49.24 | chealer | stoned: OK |
| 19:49.31 | valdyn | rata: if that doesnt work you should get a very specific error message that can probably be fixed |
| 19:49.37 | Gnea | oh, duh |
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| 19:49.39 | paulswm | valdyn: Sure it isn't, but it makes a difference to nvidia folks :) |
| 19:49.50 | valdyn | paulswm: aye |
| 19:50.02 | rata | Gnea: there are the same packages for X in testing and unstable i think, because i added sid sources and nothing related to X want to upgrade, i think |
| 19:50.05 | Gnea | ChrisW: what sort of privelages do you want to provide? |
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| 19:50.19 | formorer | aidan: in the source packages for r2 |
| 19:50.20 | rata | valdyn: ok, give me a minut |
| 19:50.21 | rata | e |
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| 19:50.27 | Gnea | rata: mixing the two is a bad thing |
| 19:50.41 | ChrisW | I just want to allow my user to su to root without having to type in the root password each time |
| 19:50.53 | paulswm | valdyn: I build a new box with a dual-core Opteron 175 and a GeForce 7600 gfx card last weekend, I have had it up and running since Monday, and now I have to screw with the nvidia drivers all over again :) |
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| 19:51.00 | marcel__ | ChrisW, sudo? or use ubuntu? |
| 19:51.03 | Gnea | ChrisW: try this then: user ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 19:51.15 | valdyn | paulswm: shouldnt the ones from sid 'just work' ? i'd think so |
| 19:51.16 | ChrisW | yeah, that gives me the heebie jeebies though |
| 19:51.20 | _rockstar | valdyn, etch most certainly does not contain xorg 7, it's xorg 6.9 |
| 19:51.25 | ChrisW | do I really need to grant everything to my user? |
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| 19:51.32 | valdyn | paulswm: since today anyway since both sid and etch are on xorg7 now |
| 19:51.33 | nagulator | hello fellow debbers |
| 19:51.35 | rata | Gnea: it was just for knowing if there are different packages, i do not installed from it |
| 19:51.35 | valdyn | _rockstar: bullshit |
| 19:51.38 | nagulator | hi valdyn |
| 19:51.53 | Gnea | ChrisW: think about it - you want him to use su, how's that different from giving full access? |
| 19:51.57 | rata | valdyn: xorg is already in the newest version |
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| 19:52.01 | ChrisW | yeah, true enough I guess |
| 19:52.04 | marcel__ | ChrisW, why not make a user member of a certain group? |
| 19:52.13 | aidan | formorer: what's r2? |
| 19:52.14 | valdyn | rata: ...and which version is it? |
| 19:52.15 | _rockstar | valdyn, you're saying etch right? |
| 19:52.18 | ChrisW | marcel__: what group? |
| 19:52.22 | valdyn | _rockstar: yeap |
| 19:52.28 | marcel__ | ChrisW, depends of what privileges you want to give |
| 19:52.33 | ChrisW | root ;-) |
| 19:52.34 | rata | valdyn: 1:7.0.20 |
| 19:52.39 | formorer | aidan: Sarge Revision 2 |
| 19:52.46 | valdyn | rata: ok, that's the right one |
| 19:52.47 | paulswm | valdyn: glx is not in etch, the dependencies in sid cascade up to a kernel (2.6.16) which isn't in etch or sid, but the appropriate sources are, so it's a question of rebuilding for my kernel |
| 19:52.58 | marcel__ | ChrisW, see /etc/group file |
| 19:53.00 | valdyn | paulswm: i see |
| 19:53.17 | _rockstar | valdyn, I see what you mean... It is indeed in etch, just kinda hiding. |
| 19:53.31 | ChrisW | ah, okay |
| 19:53.35 | valdyn | _rockstar: packages.debian.org is not authorative unfortunately |
| 19:53.45 | ChrisW | thanks people :-) |
| 19:53.48 | ChrisW | byeee |
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| 19:54.01 | rata | valdyn: all packages from X says 7.0, but when i run X -version it shows 6.9 |
| 19:54.03 | _rockstar | valdyn, I'm actually reading the apt-cache show of xserver-xorg -- Shows 7.0 as optional |
| 19:54.20 | valdyn | rata: and your version of xserver-xorg ? |
| 19:54.35 | valdyn | _rockstar: oh, apt-cache shows what you have currently installed aswell |
| 19:54.43 | rata | valdyn: 1:7.0.20 |
| 19:54.54 | valdyn | _rockstar: i believe, may be wrong |
| 19:54.55 | morten | how difficult is it to learn perl, with no previous experience in programming? |
| 19:55.00 | _rockstar | valdyn, Yeah, I was seeing that, but it shows the 7.0 as "Priority: optional" |
| 19:55.21 | _rockstar | Meaning it doesn't get installed on apt-get upgrade |
| 19:55.25 | valdyn | _rockstar: because you dont have to install X in debian, that's all |
| 19:55.46 | valdyn | rata: maybe your new Xorg is ok, but you have legacy files around for some reason |
| 19:56.00 | valdyn | rata: ls -l /etc/X11/X |
| 19:56.01 | _rockstar | Huh, it shows "The following packages have been kept back:" with the xserver-xorg in it. I'm assuming that's because it requires additional libraries... |
| 19:56.09 | valdyn | rata: also 'which X' |
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| 19:56.24 | foo | What's a lightweight image viewer? For single images... hmm, I think it was like xc or vx or something. /me scratches head |
| 19:56.40 | pipeline | foo: xv is hardly "lightweight", it's just ugly as sin. And it's non-free. |
| 19:56.50 | foo | rofl. Maybe that wasn't it. |
| 19:56.53 | stew | foo: try gqview |
| 19:56.55 | foo | display, maybe |
| 19:57.12 | rata | valdyn: /etc/X11/X is a symlink to /usb/bin/Xorg and which X is /usr/bin/X |
| 19:57.18 | foo | stew: I've got that for several images... that works well, hmm, actually, yeah... I can just use that. /me is configuring file extensions in krusader |
| 19:57.22 | paulswm | morten: Probably not very easy, but easier if you get the O |
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| 19:57.27 | valdyn | rata: ls -l /usr/bin/X |
| 19:57.33 | morten | paulswm: 0? |
| 19:57.40 | karma_ | Does anyone have any experience getting iPods to work with Debian/amaroK? |
| 19:58.26 | paulswm | morten: Probably not very easy, but easier if you get the O'Reilly Nutshell books 'Learning Perl' and 'Programming Perl' |
| 19:58.31 | chealer | karma_: possibly. ask #debian-kde |
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| 19:58.45 | morten | karma_: http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page |
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| 19:59.05 | aidan | formorer: okay, I think I tracked it down to a bug in the PHP src |
| 19:59.13 | aidan | formorer: the dtors aren't freeing the resource properly |
| 19:59.29 | karma_ | Well the FS on it is HFS+, but I cannot seem to be able to mount it as anything other than read-only |
| 19:59.29 | rata | valdyn: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root |
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| 19:59.41 | valdyn | rata: looks good too |
| 19:59.45 | rata | valdyn: 2006-06-03 |
| 20:00.01 | rata | valdyn: :S |
| 20:00.05 | karma_ | morten: That site is for putting Linux ON the iPod |
| 20:00.08 | valdyn | rata: and /usr/bin/X -version ? |
| 20:00.27 | valdyn | rata: X Window System Version 7.0.0 would be correct |
| 20:00.37 | rata | valdyn: shows 6.9 |
| 20:01.17 | morten | karma_: oh. sorry. |
| 20:01.21 | stew | rata: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
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| 20:01.28 | morten | you wanna transfer music from a debian system? |
| 20:01.33 | morten | <- fool |
| 20:01.45 | paulswm | OK, off to screw up my system^W^W^W^W upgrade X |
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| 20:02.04 | rata | stew: 1:7.0.20 |
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| 20:02.34 | valdyn | rata: dpkg -l | grep 6.9.0 | grep ^ii |
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| 20:02.45 | valdyn | rata: execute above and paste on pastebin.com or similar |
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| 20:03.25 | rata | valdyn: give me a minute, i am not doog with console browsers :) |
| 20:03.49 | stew | rata: does "debsums -c x11-common" return anything? |
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| 20:04.26 | valdyn | rata: your /usr/bin/X seems to be grabbing the wrong plugins from the from place |
| 20:04.39 | valdyn | rata: your /usr/bin/X seems to be grabbing the wrong plugins from the _wrong_ place even |
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| 20:05.14 | rata | stew: give me a second to install debsums :) |
| 20:05.33 | rata | valdyn: it returns packages, may i remove them ? |
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| 20:05.45 | valdyn | rata: now, show them |
| 20:05.50 | valdyn | rata: you still need some of those |
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| 20:07.12 | rata | stew: it returns /usr/bin/X |
| 20:08.29 | stew | rata: apt-get install --reinstall x11-common |
| 20:08.29 | valdyn | rata: i need one additional paste 'strace -eopen /usr/bin/X -version' |
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| 20:08.36 | valdyn | rata: unless stews thing fixes your issue, naturally |
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| 20:09.33 | rata | stew: it reisntalled properly, but i tried startx and it says the same |
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| 20:09.52 | valdyn | rata: you can /exec -o <command> in your irc client, probably, in #flood |
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| 20:10.01 | rata | valdyn: how can i copy things in console ? |
| 20:10.11 | rata | valdyn: ahh |
| 20:10.27 | deadcat | or you can use screen |
| 20:10.35 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:10.35 | dpkg | i guess pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 20:11.00 | stew | rata: so even after the --reinstall, does "debsums -c x11-common" still say /usr/bin/X has changed? |
| 20:11.04 | tethead | anybody savvy with DNS probs here? |
| 20:11.24 | stew | tethead: if you have a real question, just ask it |
| 20:11.26 | rata | stew: now debsums do not return anything |
| 20:11.30 | lo | can anyone make windows XP go away? |
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| 20:11.32 | lo | :| |
| 20:11.42 | stew | rata: and "X -version" still says 6.9? |
| 20:11.56 | rata | stew: yes |
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| 20:12.41 | tethead | how would i fix reverse DNS on a debian (testing) system? i've got 5 IPs and 5 domains (DNS hosted elsewhere), and pinging each of the domains pings the right IP on the server, but logging into, let's say .52, then connecting to an IRC server, i am recognized as .54 -- i think the routing tables are messed up, but i don't know how |
| 20:12.41 | rata | valdyn: may i paste you in #flood ? |
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| 20:12.45 | [vincent | apt-get remove --purge windows-xp |
| 20:13.03 | tethead | sorry, 4 subdomains on a single domain |
| 20:13.11 | lo | vincent: didn't work :| |
| 20:13.32 | valdyn | rata: go ahead |
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| 20:15.00 | bulio| | What is the command to configure xfree86? |
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| 20:15.08 | stew | !drxx bulio| |
| 20:15.08 | dpkg | bulio|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:15.14 | belkin | does anyone know where do i get dvdrecord package from ? |
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| 20:15.38 | bulio| | thanks |
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| 20:15.55 | stew | tethead: reverse dns would generally be handled by your isp. (whoever is listed when you run "whois 1.2.3.4") |
| 20:16.08 | tethead | well, not really... |
| 20:16.15 | uruguaian | please help, i have installed the packagge libapache2-mod-php4.. but it does not have mysql support?.. what i need? |
| 20:16.15 | tethead | this is on a remote server |
| 20:16.30 | stew | tethead: by "your isp", then, i mean the remote server's isp |
| 20:16.41 | wombachi | uruguaian install php4-mysql ? |
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| 20:16.54 | valdyn | rata: your libx11-6 is fucked |
| 20:16.58 | _rockstar | uruguaian, You need php4-mysql |
| 20:17.08 | valdyn | rata: try apt-get update && apt-get install libx11-6 |
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| 20:17.19 | uruguaian | ok.. i will find ir.. thanks! |
| 20:17.25 | tethead | stew: i'm not sure how relevant they are in the process, other than forwarding the right IP to the right box. we run our DNS from a 3rd party |
| 20:17.26 | stew | tethead: if you login to that box, then from there connect to another box, it will use the default ip address for the ethernet card the connection originates from, you shouldn't expect it to have anything to do with whatever ip address you used to login to the box with |
| 20:17.27 | valdyn | rata: if your mirror doesnt have the new version, try a different mirror, probably |
| 20:17.33 | _rockstar | uruguaian, then you might need to enable the mysql extension in the php.ini file. |
| 20:17.37 | bulio| | does etch use kernel 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 20:17.46 | wombachi | uruguaian "apt-cache search foo" can help you, learn to use it |
| 20:17.46 | mc__|away | bulio|, both |
| 20:17.54 | tethead | stew: ok, but we have 5 IPs, and we want to be able to login with all 5 of them seperately |
| 20:18.17 | valdyn | rata: keep the other packages |
| 20:18.22 | tethead | stew: right now they are all bound to eth0:0, :1, :2 etc... |
| 20:18.23 | uruguaian | yes, i enable the mysql.. but i get error.. mysql_connect don't exists.. |
| 20:18.44 | stew | tethead: you cannot log in to all 5 ips? login how? with ssh? |
| 20:18.45 | wombachi | uruguaian relaunch apach |
| 20:18.47 | valdyn | rata: dpkg -l libx11-6 should show the version: 1.0.0-6 |
| 20:18.54 | wombachi | uruguaian: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 20:19.04 | rata | valdyn: i installed it now |
| 20:19.16 | valdyn | rata: now X -version |
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| 20:19.26 | uruguaian | in the php.ini... i enable.. mysql.so..æ? |
| 20:19.36 | uruguaian | where is this file? |
| 20:19.37 | tethead | stew: i can login to all 5 IPs with ssh. let's say i log into .52 or .51 (the base IP is actually .50), no matter what, any external server i hit recognizes me as .54 |
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| 20:19.47 | valdyn | rata: same is the case for xlibs-data |
| 20:19.49 | tethead | so it's something internal with the routing, i just don't know what it is |
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| 20:19.54 | uruguaian | i think i don't have ir, thats my problem. |
| 20:19.55 | ChrisW | what is resolveconf? |
| 20:19.56 | zu22 | how can i add the "Debian menu" to FVWM95? it is present in most of the other window managers i've installed except in FVWM95. i can't even find what package provides this Debian menu in X. |
| 20:19.56 | wombachi | uruguaian: "locate <file>" can help you |
| 20:20.01 | rata | valdyn: dpkg says libx11-6 version is 1.0.0-6, but X -version shows 6.9 |
| 20:20.02 | valdyn | rata: same is the case for xlibs-data, which should be 7.0.20 |
| 20:20.06 | stew | tethead: .54 is the ip address of eth0? |
| 20:20.11 | ChrisW | sorry, resolvconf... |
| 20:20.19 | ChrisW | it comes as part of postfix, but I don't know what it is :-S |
| 20:20.24 | ChrisW | where can I find out> |
| 20:20.25 | ChrisW | ? |
| 20:20.28 | tethead | stew: well apparently it's seeing .54 as the address, but it is actually .50 |
| 20:20.47 | valdyn | rata: just go on,i dont know where /usr/bin/X gets the version from, just fixing errors on your system |
| 20:20.48 | rata | valdyn: ok, i am doing the same with them :) |
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| 20:20.50 | wombachi | ChrisW: it's in a separate package |
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| 20:21.30 | ChrisW | wombachi: yeah, but what is it? |
| 20:21.37 | ChrisW | wh ydoes postfix want it? |
| 20:21.44 | zu22 | i did "apt-cache search" on 'debian' and 'menu' and found nothing. so what package provides this Debian Menu and how can i add it to my FVWM95 window manager? |
| 20:21.45 | wombachi | ChrisW: apt-cache show resolvconf |
| 20:21.59 | tethead | ChrisW: it configures resolv.conf for you on startup |
| 20:22.06 | stew | tethead: in any case. when you make outgoing connection on the box, you should not expect that the ip you logged into would have any affect on which ip address is used when you make connections outward |
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| 20:22.16 | [vincent | Mandriva is awful |
| 20:22.22 | belkin | does anyone know where do i get dvdrecord package from ? |
| 20:22.27 | tethead | stew: but it always used to, till i started messing with the files in /etc/network |
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| 20:22.42 | ChrisW | tethead: ok, but why does "aptitude install postfix" install it? |
| 20:22.42 | zu22 | any ideas?? |
| 20:22.47 | rata | valdyn: with the packets it shows dpkg- l |grep 6.9.0|grep ^ii i do the same, but is says thay are in the newest version, and X -version still says 6.9 |
| 20:22.49 | ChrisW | can't realyl see the need for it in my setups... |
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| 20:22.57 | tethead | ChrisW: don't know, sorry |
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| 20:23.11 | valdyn | rata: is xlibs-data upgraded? |
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| 20:23.15 | csotelo | hi every body |
| 20:23.16 | rata | valdyn: yes |
| 20:23.19 | valdyn | rata: cant upgrade the remaining packages |
| 20:23.19 | wombachi | ChrisW: apt-cache show postfix will tell you : it "recommends" resolvconf |
| 20:23.30 | maher | zu22: there is a package called menu... |
| 20:23.40 | rata | valdyn: which package ? (sorry, i do not understand) |
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| 20:23.57 | tethead | stew: before, when we'd login to each individual IP, logging onto an IRC server, for instance, would properly recognize each IP (and therefore domain), so we could have "unique" domains |
| 20:23.57 | zu22 | maher: so menu is what provides the Debian Menu? how can i get it to show up in FVWM95? it shows up in Wmaker, IceWM, TWM, etc.. but not FVWM95 |
| 20:23.58 | ChrisW | wombachi: yeah, but it doesn't give me any option to get rid of it :-( |
| 20:23.58 | valdyn | rata: you should have upgraded xlibs-data and libx11-6, nothing else |
| 20:24.06 | ChrisW | don't want it |
| 20:24.17 | bapdoowap | hello, dpkg does not want to install xserver-xorg-core because he cannot create `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so' |
| 20:24.25 | rata | valdyn: thats right, the others says they were in the newest version |
| 20:24.26 | uruguaian | php4-mysql......where r u?... |
| 20:24.42 | maher | zu22: the wm packager needs to fix the package so it uses menu - try looking in /usr/share/doc/fvwm95 |
| 20:24.57 | zu22 | maher: thanks man! |
| 20:25.02 | wombachi | ChrisW you don't need it. try apt-get instead of aptitude. I think it wont force you to install recommended packages. Not sure about this :try |
| 20:26.00 | maher | ChrisW: try aptitude -R, and read amn aptittude |
| 20:27.14 | Maulkin | stew: Around? |
| 20:27.19 | stew | Maulkin: yeah |
| 20:27.19 | ChrisW | maher: thanks :-) |
| 20:27.31 | rata | valdyn: no more ideas, no ? :( |
| 20:27.35 | superlinux | maher, where are you from please? |
| 20:27.41 | Maulkin | stew: -> /msg |
| 20:27.48 | superlinux | you seem to be an arab! |
| 20:28.07 | valdyn | rata: nope, i'd report a bug and paste what i let you paste |
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| 20:28.17 | maher | superlinux: /whois maher |
| 20:28.31 | tethead | lol |
| 20:28.36 | superlinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.55 | rata | valdyn: yo say i we found a bug ? cool! |
| 20:28.56 | wombachi | maher: are there thinks aptitude can do than apt-get can't? (apt-get install aptitude wants to remove gnome on my testing box!) |
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| 20:29.14 | uruguaian | now php-mysql works! thanks everyone! :D |
| 20:29.17 | valdyn | rata: you can debsum each file listed in that strace and verify that the file is the right one |
| 20:29.21 | maher | superlinux: maher is a middle eastern name, an irish surname, and the name of a hindu nationalist group... |
| 20:29.31 | [vincent | Where can I find a good tutorial how to make Debian packages ? |
| 20:29.42 | kdean06 | When trying to import .ogg files to Rhythmbox, I get an "unsupported MIME type" error. I've checked Google and havent' found anything relevant. Can anyone offer me some assistance? |
| 20:29.53 | superlinux | maher, this name in arabic has a meaning |
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| 20:30.02 | rata | valdyn: give me a second |
| 20:30.07 | maher | wombachi: aptitude has some extra features... |
| 20:30.07 | wombachi | [vincent somewhere under www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 20:30.16 | maher | superlinux: what does it mean? |
| 20:30.26 | bapdoowap | someone encountered problems installing xorg with etch ? |
| 20:30.28 | valdyn | rata: you strace certainly differs from mine, i cant tell you why |
| 20:30.42 | superlinux | maher, means that a guy how is pro doing a thing |
| 20:30.50 | superlinux | or building it |
| 20:30.59 | valdyn | rata: both, mine and your /usr/bin/X should open the same files but yours opens less files =/ |
| 20:31.00 | superlinux | like how execlent a carpenter |
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| 20:31.21 | superlinux | but read the a as long A |
| 20:31.33 | maher | superlinux: a nice irony given my obvious incompetence :) |
| 20:31.35 | superlinux | like in "bat" |
| 20:32.03 | rata | valdyn: :S |
| 20:32.03 | superlinux | we call people such a name |
| 20:32.35 | billybobthortonn | does sarge=stable or sarge=testing? |
| 20:32.47 | wombachi | stable |
| 20:32.50 | billybobthortonn | ty |
| 20:32.52 | wombachi | testing=etch |
| 20:33.05 | rata | valdyn: to which files may i do debsum ? |
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| 20:33.31 | valdyn | rata: /usr/bin/Xorg, /usr/bin/X and all files listed in the strace |
| 20:34.00 | valdyn | rata: see #flood, the ones after open(" |
| 20:34.12 | ktwilight | has anyone got nvidia working on x117r? |
| 20:34.29 | valdyn | ktwilight: which nvidia? |
| 20:34.36 | superlinux | when etch is expected as stable? |
| 20:34.44 | valdyn | !wwer |
| 20:34.45 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00015.html |
| 20:34.57 | ktwilight | which...glx... |
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| 20:35.18 | valdyn | ktwilight: the debian packages? the installer from nvidia.com? |
| 20:35.19 | ktwilight | i upgradeed today, and the module is not working on the latest xorg |
| 20:35.21 | rata | valdyn: but debsums /usr/bin/X says package invalid |
| 20:35.22 | [vincent | When will be Etch considered as stable ? |
| 20:35.26 | ktwilight | debian packages from backports |
| 20:35.52 | ktwilight | i need to get it from nvidia.com for it to work |
| 20:35.53 | ktwilight | ? |
| 20:36.04 | valdyn | rata: oh, hold on |
| 20:36.07 | endia314 | [vincent: When it is released in six months or so |
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| 20:37.11 | endia314 | ktwilight: Which version of the nvidia driver are you running? |
| 20:37.24 | valdyn | rata: you need to specify the package, so 'debsusms x11-common' for /usr/bin/X |
| 20:37.53 | ktwilight | lemme check |
| 20:38.02 | rata | valdyn: in all files listed it says OK |
| 20:38.03 | bulio| | does etch use a newer version of KDE and wxpython? |
| 20:38.58 | valdyn | ktwilight: using backports with etch is stupid |
| 20:39.02 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 20:39.20 | ktwilight | i guess i read wrongly from the docs then... |
| 20:39.24 | valdyn | ktwilight: you can use sid's packages if you have a kernel >= 2.6.16 |
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| 20:39.40 | ktwilight | i only got 2.6.15 |
| 20:39.47 | valdyn | ktwilight: else you could use the nvidia installer from nvidia.com i guess |
| 20:39.51 | bulio| | what was the Xorg setup command? |
| 20:39.55 | ktwilight | which is most recommended for etch? |
| 20:39.55 | valdyn | ktwilight: not satisfying but should work |
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| 20:40.05 | endia314 | bulio|: Yes |
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| 20:40.18 | AKX | Is there a command or script to set the default Python interpreter under Debian or do I have to manually resymlink them? |
| 20:40.19 | valdyn | ktwilight: there's no good solution right now, maybe tomorrow |
| 20:40.21 | bulio| | what was the Xorg setup command for the bot? |
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| 20:40.35 | bulio| | !xorg |
| 20:40.36 | dpkg | well, xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 20:40.38 | ktwilight | ouch :/ |
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| 20:40.44 | bulio| | nope |
| 20:40.46 | ktwilight | i shouldn't have upgraded then... |
| 20:40.50 | bulio| | !xfree86 |
| 20:40.51 | dpkg | somebody said xfree86 was proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
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| 20:41.14 | AKX | hmm... |
| 20:41.16 | AKX | !python |
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| 20:41.16 | stew | bulio|: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 20:41.16 | dpkg | somebody said python was a very nice scripting language, easy to learn and still quite powerful and elegant if you know how to use it, or see http://python.org/topics/learn/, or #python |
| 20:41.22 | AKX | Right. |
| 20:41.44 | bulio| | thanks stew |
| 20:41.58 | floppyears | hi |
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| 20:42.06 | stew | AKX: don't mess with the python symlink on debian. if you are writing a script which needs a specific python version use /usr/bin/python2.2 or whatever in the shebang instead |
| 20:42.08 | floppyears | what is the page size supported by linux nowadyas ? |
| 20:42.14 | rata | valdyn: hoy may i search to shich package all files correspond ? |
| 20:42.18 | AKX | Hm, alright stew |
| 20:42.26 | valdyn | rata: dpkg -S filename |
| 20:42.32 | rata | valdyn: or i do not have to do it with any other ? |
| 20:42.37 | rata | valdyn: thanks |
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| 20:42.48 | valdyn | rata: you can do it, or you can already file a bugreport |
| 20:43.22 | dos000 | ls |
| 20:43.29 | dos000 | oops |
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| 20:44.08 | rata | valdyn: i never file a bugreport... don't you want to do it ? :) |
| 20:44.19 | rata | valdyn: lot lot of thanks for helping |
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| 20:48.59 | bulio| | great |
| 20:49.15 | bulio| | User not authorized to run xserver, aborting |
| 20:49.18 | bulio| | how do I fix this? |
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| 20:50.14 | fly_80 | is it possible to use flash with firefox on debian ? |
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| 20:50.18 | keex | is there a wazy of fining out the version of my debian? I forgot |
| 20:50.25 | ktwilight | yes fly_80 |
| 20:50.36 | fly_80 | ktwilight: how can i do that? |
| 20:51.04 | wombachi | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:51.04 | stew | rata: valdyn: did you find out what the cause of rata's problem was? |
| 20:51.27 | ktwilight | fly_80 do you use a sound server? if so which? oss or alsa or esd? |
| 20:51.28 | delusions | hi everyone, i'm sorry but where does "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" save the new config file? |
| 20:51.42 | ktwilight | delusions, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:51.44 | fly_80 | uhm, alsa i think.... |
| 20:51.56 | delusions | ktwilight, it doent |
| 20:51.57 | ktwilight | you're using KDe or gnome? |
| 20:52.00 | fly_80 | gnome |
| 20:52.03 | ktwilight | hmm... :/ it should do delusions |
| 20:52.04 | rata | stew: now |
| 20:52.10 | bulio| | User not authorized to run xserver, aborting |
| 20:52.10 | rata | stew: no, i mean :) |
| 20:52.11 | bulio| | how do I fix this? |
| 20:52.13 | ktwilight | i dunno 'bout gnome, but there should be a sound settings that you can choose? |
| 20:52.17 | ktwilight | i know kde does. |
| 20:52.22 | delusions | ktwilight, the old xorg.conf file remains after reconfigure |
| 20:52.31 | ktwilight | if it doesn't work, ya need a oss wrapper, apt-get install alsa-oss |
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| 20:52.44 | fly_80 | ktwilight: ????what the hell are you saying ? |
| 20:52.46 | ktwilight | then just run firefox as aoss firefox. works for me |
| 20:52.47 | rata | stew: if i purge and re install it should work, no ? |
| 20:52.56 | ktwilight | no idea then delusions |
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| 20:53.14 | delusions | thanks, ktwilight |
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| 20:53.51 | keex | how do I upgrade to a newer kernel version? |
| 20:53.52 | fly_80 | ktwilight: i was taling about the flash player and you tell me of alsa ?? |
| 20:53.59 | fly_80 | *talkin |
| 20:54.04 | ktwilight | yes... :/ |
| 20:54.12 | fly_80 | -_- |
| 20:54.15 | ktwilight | try this www.google.com/search?q=flash+no+sound |
| 20:54.20 | wombachi | keex install a new package (kernel-image-foo or linux-image-foo) |
| 20:54.25 | bulio| | I can't connect to the X server in KDE |
| 20:54.27 | ktwilight | if ya don't believe me, fine... -.- |
| 20:54.29 | stew | rata: well it *should* be working without having to reinstall anything, so i dunno. did you find any 6.9 package on your system? |
| 20:54.31 | bulio| | startkde doesn't work |
| 20:55.05 | rata | stew: yes, but valdyn says they were necesary |
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| 20:55.10 | fly_80 | ktwilight: the problem is that i can't view flash sites because of i don't have the right plugin |
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| 20:55.26 | ktwilight | oops.... |
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| 20:55.31 | ktwilight | misunderstood... *shrugs* |
| 20:55.52 | bulio| | how would I remove xfree-86? |
| 20:56.10 | ktwilight | can ya just instlal it via firefox? |
| 20:56.12 | keex | wombachi, I can only choose from 2.6.8-13 kernels |
| 20:56.13 | stew | bulio|: /msg dpkg remove x |
| 20:56.34 | wombachi | keex: you're using Sarge? |
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| 20:56.40 | keex | i guess so |
| 20:56.54 | keex | I'd love to se a newer kernel |
| 20:57.34 | wombachi | keex: then you can try newer kernels backported for sarge (check backports.org). But I strongly suggest you upgrade to Testing/Etch if you can |
| 20:57.43 | bulio| | I'll try getting X.org again |
| 20:58.07 | keex | wombachi, Testing/Etch ??? sounds unstable |
| 20:58.14 | wombachi | keex: kernels > 2.6.12 cause problems with sarge (needs more recent udev ) |
| 20:58.16 | stew | keex: you can install 2.6.16 from backports, http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 20:58.48 | wombachi | keex: testing is quite stable. At least as stable as "stable" in other distros in my opinion |
| 20:59.29 | wombachi | keex: I think Sarge is not well suited for desktops (too old versions for firefox, openoffice, kernels etc) |
| 20:59.38 | bulio| | great, its removing all of KDE too :( |
| 20:59.54 | keex | wombachi, and stew : how do I upgrade my current system then (it is indeed on a laptop) |
| 20:59.59 | keex | ? |
| 21:00.22 | keex | wombachi, I am a debian newbie |
| 21:00.46 | keex | some manuals somewhere/ |
| 21:00.47 | keex | ? |
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| 21:01.38 | maher | keex: stick with stable for the time being - try looking at debian.org in the documentation section... |
| 21:01.43 | ktwilight | keex, http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 21:01.49 | kingsley | Is there an easy way to customize the icon used by a running copy of firefox? |
| 21:02.20 | xmb | 300 public scripts @ http://xmb.ath.cx/code/?C=M;O=D |
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| 21:04.43 | bulio| | X: Unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 21:04.46 | wombachi | keex: somethink like update /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get -s dist-upgrade. But you'd better read some docs before indeed, or stick with Sarge |
| 21:04.51 | ic3man05 | kingsley: the gimp works well for image editing |
| 21:04.51 | bulio| | X: user not authorized ti run the X server, aborting |
| 21:04.54 | bulio| | what should I try? |
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| 21:05.27 | Zarla | Hello All |
| 21:05.30 | stew | keex: http://backports.org/instructions.html ; then apt-get install -t sarge-backport linux-image-2.6 ; i wouldn't recommend upgrading to testing if you are new at debian |
| 21:05.39 | Zarla | Somebody has news about gnome ? |
| 21:05.44 | pppoe_dude | bulio|, try looking in your neighbour's computer for Xwrapper.config |
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| 21:06.07 | stew | bulio|: what version of x? |
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| 21:06.20 | pppoe_dude | :) |
| 21:06.42 | SonnyBurnett | hi, how do I set up my apt's repositories list? |
| 21:07.03 | wombachi | SonnyBurnett edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:07.10 | maher | SonnyBurnett: or run apt-setup |
| 21:07.25 | SonnyBurnett | wombachi, I remember that was another way, apt-config I think... dont remember |
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| 21:07.33 | wombachi | which is easier, you're right. |
| 21:07.43 | SonnyBurnett | maher, apt-setup doens run |
| 21:07.53 | zenwryly | what would y'all say is the best web mail package? |
| 21:07.55 | maher | SonnyBurnett: what does it say? |
| 21:07.56 | dvs | SonnyBurnett: as root? |
| 21:08.08 | SonnyBurnett | maher, command not found |
| 21:08.16 | Morden | How can I actually get a dedicated IP adress instead of DHCP from my ISP? Anyone knows? |
| 21:08.16 | maher | zenwryly: i use quirrelmail - slow and ugly but gets the job done... |
| 21:08.21 | kingsley | ic3man05: Yes, I like the GIMP too, but in this case, the problem appears to be that the normal method of installing firefox icons from http://iconpacks.mozdev.org/ doesn't work. |
| 21:08.25 | maher | SonnyBurnett: are you root? |
| 21:08.40 | maher | zenwryly: i mean squittelmail |
| 21:08.42 | SonnyBurnett | maher, I used that command before, that's the reason of my question,,, i though I was wrong |
| 21:08.45 | maher | zenwryly: i mean squirrelmail |
| 21:08.46 | SonnyBurnett | maher, yep |
| 21:09.00 | benny`work | hi! just want to install proftpd...but debian wants me to install mysql-common too...do i really need mysql for this? |
| 21:09.01 | zenwryly | maher: ok, thanks |
| 21:09.04 | chealer | Zarla: wrong channel |
| 21:09.12 | SonnyBurnett | maher, try to run it |
| 21:09.16 | maher | SonnyBurnett: try typing /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 21:09.59 | ic3man05 | kingsley: do you actually want to edit the file or just replace the original icon? |
| 21:10.15 | magyar | i am running sarge and my mailq is getting bounces comming from my systems user "www-data". Am i hacked? |
| 21:10.18 | crazy_penguin | a good night to all! pleasent dreams! |
| 21:10.23 | SonnyBurnett | maher, same thing |
| 21:10.24 | maher | benny`work: no - how are you installing proftpd? |
| 21:10.38 | dvs | !find /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 21:10.48 | maher | SonnyBurnett: ok - edit /etc/apt/sources.list then |
| 21:10.57 | benny`work | maher: apt-get install proftpd (please be patient, debian newbie :)...normally i work with gentoo ) |
| 21:10.57 | Zarla | chealer: Why ? I just want to know if somebody has news about the unmet dependencies in Debian's gnome package. |
| 21:11.07 | SonnyBurnett | maher, :p thats what I dont want to do :p |
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| 21:11.31 | chealer | Zarla: eh, your question was truncated then |
| 21:11.34 | maher | magyar: www-data is the user the webserver runs as |
| 21:11.41 | SonnyBurnett | Does somebody know what happened with the APT-SETUP command? who did stole it? |
| 21:11.54 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett, editing /etc/apt/sources.list is very simple |
| 21:12.10 | SonnyBurnett | ic3man05, I know.... my fingers are tired |
| 21:12.14 | maher | benny`work: use something interactive like aptitude or dselect to see what's dragging in mysql-common |
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| 21:12.23 | wombachi | benny`work: indeed, proftpd/testing depends on libmysqlclient15off |
| 21:12.45 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: well you are typing more then just editing sources.list |
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| 21:12.54 | lewis | currently got spamassassin/exim4 on debian sarge/stable. Is it possible to have a subject header rewriting of e-mails that have DNSBL or SURBL content? |
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| 21:12.56 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: more here* |
| 21:12.57 | SonnyBurnett | lol |
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| 21:13.16 | ic3man05 | copy+paste is your best friend |
| 21:13.29 | maher | benny`work: ok - on stable proftpd doesn't seem to depend on mysql-common |
| 21:13.41 | magyar | maher: why would www-data send mail to "hpq@freecasinoplay.info" and such? |
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| 21:14.07 | wombachi | magyar because someone is (mis)using a PHP script on your server? |
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| 21:14.28 | boodie | hi; I'm still stuck with X ... tried to set up xserver-xorg with no luck |
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| 21:14.54 | foo | Hmm, looks like / is full. Is there a command I can run to clean up any log files or anything? |
| 21:14.55 | boodie | did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:15.11 | magyar | maher: ouch, how would i know which one? |
| 21:15.16 | ic3man05 | boodie: this isn't the debian way but try xorgcfg -textmode |
| 21:15.22 | maher | magyar: are you actually sending mails (bad) or merely receiving bounces (not so bad) |
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| 21:15.47 | wombachi | foo: df -h ; apt-get clean; df -h |
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| 21:15.56 | kingsley | ic3man05: Thanks for asking. I just want to replace the original icon. I suspect a permissions problem, because root can replace it's firefox icon, but not a normal user. |
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| 21:16.17 | ic3man05 | ls -l the directory the icon is in kingsley |
| 21:16.19 | maher | foo: apt-cache clean will remove dl-ed debs |
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| 21:16.26 | magyar | maher: http://pastebin.com/756414 |
| 21:16.34 | ic3man05 | user and or others should have rw access |
| 21:16.46 | kingsley | ic3man05: Yes, but I find myself wondering how to identify the directory. |
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| 21:17.15 | ic3man05 | /usr/share/pixmaps or location of firefox |
| 21:17.15 | zirikili | how do I use the theme gtk2-engines-industrial I just installed ? |
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| 21:17.39 | ic3man05 | kingsley: mine is /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png |
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| 21:18.05 | Mr-Boss_ | i'm new in linux, so i tray to install the debian r1 so i have some problem to mount a cd-rom... how i can resolve this problem? |
| 21:18.06 | maher | magyar: looks like someone is using your webserver to send mail |
| 21:18.06 | foo | wombachi: heh, thanks. 1.5GB freed |
| 21:18.10 | ChrisW | how do I change the default, system-wide editor to be emacs rather than vi? |
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| 21:18.19 | emergo | Im trying to "free" usb devices, so i can use them in vmware. How can I find the usb device name ? lsus give me Bus 004 Device 003: ID 04b8:080f Seiko Epson Corp. |
| 21:18.24 | ic3man05 | kingsley: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6433 2006-05-04 02:01 /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png |
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| 21:18.47 | boodie | mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /cdrom |
| 21:18.50 | morten | how do i extract .gz files? |
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| 21:18.53 | ic3man05 | kingsley: normal icon doesn't have write permissions for user and other |
| 21:18.53 | magyar | maher: nothing in apache logs :(, that sucks |
| 21:19.07 | kingsley | ic3man05: Yes, I have that file also, but, when I run firefox as root, it uses a different icon. |
| 21:19.17 | morten | don't run firefox as root. |
| 21:19.20 | wombachi | magyar: you won't find POST requests, only GET there. |
| 21:19.21 | ChrisW | magyar: what's the symptoms? |
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| 21:19.29 | boodie | >sigh< |
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| 21:19.39 | ic3man05 | kingsley: ahh your talking about the icon on the top left of the window? |
| 21:19.49 | wombachi | magyar: find which script uses the mail() function, there are holes in one of them |
| 21:20.15 | wombachi | magyar: most probably one that sets the "From" header from user-supplied datas |
| 21:20.24 | magyar | ChrisW: my mailq has mail sitting in it that is originating from www-data user |
| 21:20.57 | Mr-Boss_ | to install mod graph in the boot i has only to pree enter? i use sata have to make something diferent? |
| 21:21.08 | wombachi | magyar: in apache logs, you'll only find GET requests content (no content for POST) |
| 21:21.16 | ChrisW | you got any bulletin-board software installed? |
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| 21:21.22 | kingsley | ic3man05: I'd like to change the icon you see when you minimize or iconify a firefox window, so that it's replaced with the icon. When you subsequently click on the icon, it's replaced by a full firefox window. |
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| 21:22.05 | maher | ChrisW: update-alternatives |
| 21:22.05 | magyar | ChrisW: php-nuke |
| 21:22.07 | ic3man05 | kingsley: thats outside my knowledge but I remember ubuntu having a program that would change it back to the original and I think gentoo also had doc in there wiki about it |
| 21:22.19 | kingsley | ic3man05: You may be able to duplicate the problem by trying to install a new icon from http://iconpacks.mozdev.org |
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| 21:22.23 | morten | how do i extract .gz files? |
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| 21:22.28 | bulio| | Upgraded to etch and installed xorg |
| 21:22.29 | maher | magyar: php-nuke is the swiss cheese of web apps |
| 21:22.30 | bulio| | now I get |
| 21:22.31 | bulio| | http://www.pygame.org/shots/131.jpg |
| 21:22.35 | bulio| | sorry wrong thing |
| 21:22.40 | emergo | Im trying to "free" usb devices, so i can use them in vmware. How can I find the usb device name ? lsus give me Bus 004 Device 003: ID 04b8:080f Seiko Epson Corp. |
| 21:22.42 | bulio| | X: Unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 21:22.42 | bulio| | <bulio|> <bulio|> X: user not authorized ti run the X server, aborting |
| 21:22.48 | pollywog | anyone know why (Debian Sarge) iptables is not logging to syslog? |
| 21:22.54 | ic3man05 | kingsley: let me try |
| 21:23.01 | pollywog | I have not fiddled with the syslog.conf |
| 21:23.01 | wombachi | magyar : phpnuke security is... hmmm doesnt exists |
| 21:23.07 | kingsley | ic3man05: Very good. |
| 21:23.17 | ChrisW | magyar: ouch, php, make sure all versions of anything you're usign are latest and patched... |
| 21:23.19 | maher | emergo: what do you mean by free? |
| 21:23.39 | ChrisW | hmm, "LC_ALL=en_GB ls -laR ." is not including the date inthe format I'd expect |
| 21:23.46 | ChrisW | can anyone help me figure aout why? |
| 21:23.48 | magyar | ChrisW: i patch regularly from debian |
| 21:23.50 | maher | pollywog: my iptables logs to ulog |
| 21:24.05 | pollywog | maher: always? |
| 21:24.11 | wombachi | ChrisW: php is not insecure by itself, but many PHP apps are not well written. |
| 21:24.15 | emergo | maher: remove |
| 21:24.23 | bulio| | anyone? |
| 21:24.26 | pollywog | maher: I thought it required special config to do that |
| 21:24.31 | emergo | maher: vmware sasys its "taken" or used |
| 21:24.34 | pollywog | that it did not do that by default |
| 21:24.39 | stew | bulio|: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 21:25.15 | maher | pollywog: umm... actually i have ULOGs in my scripts - it doesn't seem to dump anything to syslog though |
| 21:25.27 | emergo | maher: any ide |
| 21:25.43 | formorer | I think nobody should use php |
| 21:25.47 | pollywog | maher: yes then it will use ulog but mine is not set up to do that |
| 21:25.48 | emergo | maher: release is the word I guess |
| 21:25.53 | bulio| | stew: thanks!\ |
| 21:25.54 | maher | emergo: ok - sunno |
| 21:25.56 | ChrisW | how can I find out what locale's are installed? |
| 21:25.58 | maher | emergo: ok - dunno |
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| 21:26.19 | maher | ChrisW: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:26.24 | bulio| | Failed to load module Mouse module does not exist |
| 21:26.44 | wombachi | formorer: alternatives are not much safer. Ex Perl in awstats... |
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| 21:27.06 | Maulkin | ChrisW: locale -a |
| 21:27.06 | formorer | wombachi: but its much easier in PHP to be stupid than in other languages :) |
| 21:27.17 | ic3man05 | kingsley: everytime I try to add the extension it disappears |
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| 21:28.07 | dvs | !nickometer lamer11493701528 |
| 21:28.07 | kingsley | ic3man05: Does the *icon* disappear? |
| 21:28.09 | dpkg | 'lamer11493701528' is 99.490% lame, dvs |
| 21:28.23 | linolium | hello, how can I configure the default permissions for new home directories? |
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| 21:28.54 | pollywog | what is a nicometer? |
| 21:28.54 | bulio| | stew: no screens found |
| 21:29.14 | ic3man05 | kingsley: Mozilla uses a special installation system called XPI for installing icon packs like this so you should make sure that 'Enable software installation' is checked in Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Software Installation and that 'Navigator' is ticked under 'Enable Javascript for' in Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Scripts & Plugins (Tools, Options, Web Features, 'Enable Javascript' in Mozilla Firefox). |
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| 21:29.19 | pollywog | bulio|: using Nvidia? |
| 21:29.20 | wombachi | formorer: that's the real problem : users are stupid, so let's the soft avoid people thinking :-/ (ex php magic_quotes disaster) |
| 21:29.22 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, is there a console command to configure the NIC? |
| 21:29.34 | bulio| | pollywog Ati rage pro |
| 21:29.35 | AKX | hmm, dpkg is a supybot? |
| 21:29.37 | bulio| | very old card |
| 21:29.43 | bulio| | 4mb agp |
| 21:29.46 | bulio| | usually works fine |
| 21:29.59 | SonnyBurnett | I mea is there a command to setup the ip, gateway, netmask, etc |
| 21:29.59 | formorer | wombachi: I only say: register_global |
| 21:30.14 | maher | linolium: dpkg-reconfigure adduser |
| 21:30.44 | maher | SonnyBurnett: ifup |
| 21:30.52 | wombachi | formorer: yes, that's the worst one. "deprecated" since php 4.1.2 iirc, but ppl continues to use it without thinking |
| 21:31.12 | maher | SonnyBurnett: or ifconfig |
| 21:31.18 | formorer | wombachi: and php5 still has this option |
| 21:31.23 | ic3man05 | kingsley: I don't seem to have that option |
| 21:31.25 | maher | SonnyBurnett: you probably want to edit /etc/network/interfaces and then use ifup |
| 21:31.27 | formorer | wombachi: they should have remove them ages ago |
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| 21:32.20 | kingsley | ic3man05: Did you read the first question in the FAQ that's linked to by the icon site? |
| 21:32.26 | penguin | What is the command to reconfigure exim? |
| 21:32.34 | SonnyBurnett | maher, I thougth I could use some dpkg-reconfigure something..... but it seems that the only way is editing interfaces |
| 21:32.40 | wombachi | formorer. Yes, but it's the "backward compatibility" problem (m$ face it often). Ppl won't upgrade to php5 if it breaks their (old crappy, unsecure) scripts :-/ |
| 21:33.00 | ic3man05 | kingsley: see Why does this website use software installations? @ http://iconpacks.mozdev.org/docs/faq.html |
| 21:33.08 | ic3man05 | kingsley: Yes I did |
| 21:33.17 | wombachi | penguin dpkg-reconfigure exim? |
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| 21:33.22 | bulio| | bah |
| 21:33.25 | bulio| | I'll re-install |
| 21:33.46 | maher | SonnyBurnett: do you have etherconf installed? |
| 21:33.54 | ic3man05 | kingsley: good luck thats really all the advice I can give |
| 21:33.59 | kingsley | ic3man05: Did you add the icon site's URL to the allow list? |
| 21:34.02 | bulio| | how can I get the latest version of kde for sarge? |
| 21:34.12 | morten | how do i extract .gz files? |
| 21:34.16 | maher | bulio|: use tasksel - install desktop task |
| 21:34.17 | dvs | bulio|: backports.org |
| 21:34.17 | ChrisW | mmm, just installed the locales package... why would I get "Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale" when I ru nthe locale command? |
| 21:34.19 | ic3man05 | kingsley: yes |
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| 21:34.28 | wombachi | morten man gunzip |
| 21:34.56 | ic3man05 | kingsley: once it installs the xpi it disappears in the list of extensions though, so its probably a permission issue or something on my machine |
| 21:34.57 | SonnyBurnett | maher, I dont think so |
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| 21:35.20 | boodie | just a question: what is the channel for the 64bit debian? |
| 21:35.31 | penguin | How do you ask questions during configuration? |
| 21:35.44 | dos000 | anyone: i am trying to setup a vpn connection via my debian box. do i need 2 phisical network cards ? or can i use one interface on the debian box so the pakets comin (unencrypted) and go out (encrypted) from the same interface |
| 21:36.11 | SonnyBurnett | maher, I' already done the editing.... btw I hate editing .conf files |
| 21:36.28 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: why are you using linux then? |
| 21:36.40 | ChrisW | d'oh |
| 21:36.43 | ChrisW | gottit |
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| 21:36.56 | maher | SonnyBurnett: what exactlyare you doing? why don't you have apt-setup or a working network? |
| 21:37.03 | SonnyBurnett | ic3man05, lol I mean... it's ok.. I hate doing it 3,4,5,6 times and always I dont remember exactly the syntax |
| 21:37.08 | pollywog | because Windows won't let him do what he hates doing |
| 21:37.32 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: So the first time you do it, make comments for yourself so you can remember |
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| 21:37.46 | SonnyBurnett | maher, first I need to setup my repositories, but I realized that I didnt eve have my network setup |
| 21:38.04 | pollywog | ic3man05: you mean to comment in the file right/ you do not mean that he should talk to himself |
| 21:38.33 | SonnyBurnett | ic3man05, yep but I'm doing it in my laptop now,,,,, so I have to run to the desktop... see the file and copy to the notebook |
| 21:38.34 | ic3man05 | pollywog, lol that would be pretty funny if he was talking to himself |
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| 21:38.55 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: ssh + network is a great tool |
| 21:38.57 | SonnyBurnett | pollywog, Thats not the issue man |
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| 21:39.33 | lewis | anyone know why the file /usr/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf has three scores for each rule? i.e. 0 0.5 1? |
| 21:39.35 | ChrisW | oh, forgot, didn't get an answer too: how do I change the default editor for the whole system (and root in particular!) to emacs from vi? |
| 21:39.55 | pollywog | I made small files so that I could later configure stuff and I saved the files, but I was using reiserfs and I lost all of it |
| 21:40.03 | SonnyBurnett | The issue is.... If you are going to set up a server, lets say a web server, and if you dont have a book with all the .conf, or another computer with internet connection,, you are lost |
| 21:40.04 | pollywog | files with instructions |
| 21:40.18 | boodie | I am still trying to set up X ... frustrating ... when I do startx it says it can't load "vesa", nor "vga", nor "fbdev" driver |
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| 21:40.32 | wombachi | Chrisw something like "update-alternatives" iirc. Look for /etc/alternatives/editor |
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| 21:41.02 | boodie | I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it spots my card |
| 21:41.03 | ic3man05 | SonneyBurnett: how so? |
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| 21:41.40 | ic3man05 | SonnyBurnett: I managed to setup my server without another computer and once I setup ssh on it I control it from my other computers |
| 21:41.43 | SonnyBurnett | SonnyBurnett, oh yeah! of course I use it... but my notebook didnt have ssh installed... it has a incomplete install |
| 21:41.53 | pollywog | I should have made a note to myself not to use reiserfs ;) |
| 21:42.07 | penguin | Is there a way to ask dpkg more detailed questions regarding the options? |
| 21:42.09 | ChrisW | wombachi: /etc/alternatives/editor is indeed a symlink, how do I use update-alternatives? |
| 21:42.18 | edison | help where can i get mencoder and mplayer ? |
| 21:42.26 | ic3man05 | pollywog, same here |
| 21:42.35 | pollywog | edison you can get mplayer from marrilat |
| 21:42.37 | pollywog | sp |
| 21:42.47 | pollywog | marillat |
| 21:42.52 | boodie | it's no longer called marillat! |
| 21:42.53 | dvs | !tell edison about marillat |
| 21:42.55 | wombachi | ChrisW update-alternatives --config editor. man update-alternatives? |
| 21:43.09 | ChrisW | thanks :-) |
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| 21:43.16 | wombachi | ChrisW that 'alternatives" system is Debian specific afaik |
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| 21:44.00 | edison | pollywog, dvs ok thank |
| 21:44.12 | dvs | you're welcome |
| 21:44.23 | pollywog | boodie is it called Nerim now? |
| 21:44.27 | ChrisW | wombachi: joy! I'll have a dig... |
| 21:44.30 | ChrisW | thanks |
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| 21:45.15 | boodie | ahum ... no - I have it in sources.list |
| 21:45.31 | pollywog | I think it's Debian Multimedia now |
| 21:45.36 | blondie | abrotman: fish please |
| 21:45.38 | boodie | right |
| 21:45.54 | pollywog | I will try to remember that |
| 21:45.59 | magyar | can anyone help? Sarge all updates. http://pastebin.com/756455 |
| 21:46.21 | SonnyBurnett | Did somebody had "Reboot" issues with his/her notebook? |
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| 21:47.50 | boodie | I am trying to run X ... it gives me a message, sayng that it can't load any driver |
| 21:49.25 | zirikili | how do I use update-alternatives to setup my icon theme? |
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| 21:49.43 | boodie | I have tried a knoppix - live on this machine, and X runs fine ... |
| 21:50.23 | boodie | No acceleration - but with etch, it doesn't want to know |
| 21:50.40 | pollywog | boodie: Nvidia? |
| 21:50.47 | boodie | ATI |
| 21:50.50 | pollywog | oh |
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| 21:51.25 | boodie | Mobo is ASUS, with Nvidias ... but the vide card is an ATI |
| 21:52.19 | boodie | who knows - we have a saying: like looking for a needle in a straw heap |
| 21:53.22 | pollywog | boodie when you boot to Knoppix, can you see an xorg.conf or XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11/ ? |
| 21:53.54 | boodie | I don't know |
| 21:54.08 | boodie | I guess XF86 |
| 21:54.21 | boodie | Now I have them both |
| 21:54.30 | pollywog | if you can, you might copy it to a floopy or to another machine and then try using it on your installed Linux |
| 21:54.30 | dvs | boodie: which one is newer? |
| 21:54.33 | boodie | plus there is only VI |
| 21:54.43 | keex | stew, how do I upgrade my current system to testing? |
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| 21:55.17 | boodie | somebody loves VI |
| 21:55.28 | boodie | I don't |
| 21:55.45 | maher | boodie: you should have nano |
| 21:55.45 | keex | I do! |
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| 21:55.56 | paulswm | There's no VI - there is, however, vi :) |
| 21:56.05 | boodie | indeed |
| 21:56.12 | paulswm | I love vi |
| 21:56.39 | pollywog | keex if you are sure you want to do that, you can change the stable sources to testing in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then run 'apt-get update' followed by apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:57.01 | pollywog | but I don't recommend it unless you have another machine as a backup |
| 21:57.17 | paulswm | !viman |
| 21:57.56 | keex | pollywog, I actually only want the newest kernel |
| 21:57.57 | paulswm | boodie, keex: http://home.earthlink.net/~paulswm/images/viman.gif |
| 21:58.10 | pollywog | oh, that could be a problem |
| 21:58.17 | boodie | ok ... more or less I manage even vi ... with a minor nervous breakdown |
| 21:58.33 | boodie | but still X bogs me |
| 21:58.38 | paulswm | If you use it a lot, vi really becomes very very useful |
| 21:58.50 | pollywog | I tried to do that and couldn't because the compiler in Sarge would not compile the latest kernel in testing |
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| 21:59.34 | pollywog | but unless you really NEED the latest kernel stick with the one in Sarge |
| 22:00.02 | lewis | what is the debian package for Net::DNS? |
| 22:00.03 | paulswm | valdyn: I recompiled a kernel with stuff from sid nvidia, and I am up with X 7.0 plus nvidia glx on etch! \o/ |
| 22:00.14 | keex | pollywog, I am stuck with 2.6.8 - I need 2.6.15 at least for WLAN |
| 22:00.24 | pollywog | lewis is that a perl module? |
| 22:00.28 | lewis | yes |
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| 22:00.50 | pollywog | lewis have you tried to get it from perl -MCPAN -e shell ? |
| 22:00.55 | boodie | ok - thanks - but I give up for today |
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| 22:01.43 | lewis | libnet-dns-perl :) |
| 22:01.45 | stew | keex: which wlan chipset? |
| 22:01.49 | pollywog | k |
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| 22:02.31 | VlivE | afternoon any help with an amd64 netinstall that don't recognize cd/dvd rom drive? |
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| 22:04.11 | keex | adm something |
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| 22:05.09 | keex | stew, ADM8211 |
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| 22:07.42 | lewis | silly question: best way to put output of a command to a file, is it: command --options > out.txt |
| 22:07.53 | peterS | lewis: yes |
| 22:08.13 | VlivE | help with an amd64 netinstall that don't recognize cd/dvd rom drive? |
| 22:08.34 | peterS | lewis: unless you want to capture the error stream as well as the normal output stream. in that case, command --options > out.txt 2>&1 |
| 22:08.39 | keex | stew, are you alive? |
| 22:08.46 | lewis | when I run that, a empty out.txt file is created, and the output is shown in the shell |
| 22:08.51 | lewis | (first command that is) |
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| 22:09.51 | peppet | lewis: then the output is in the error stream, as peterS suggested |
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| 22:10.53 | lewis | apologies, didn't know what an error stream was |
| 22:11.18 | belkin | does anyone know how do i get rid of the udf thing in k3b so i can burn single files bigger then 4 gb ? |
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| 22:11.28 | lewis | (and thank you, the 2nd command does work) |
| 22:11.37 | SonnyBurnett | Is it correct that thw /etc/www directory has 755 permissions? |
| 22:11.50 | MoDaX | belkin: clear the appropriate checkbox? :) |
| 22:11.58 | peterS | belkin: "udf thing"? your two choices for burning files to CD or DVD are ISO-9660 and UDF. as far as I know, only UDF supports files greater than 4 GB |
| 22:12.07 | judge | it depends on the permissions of the users/directorys |
| 22:12.17 | belkin | MoDaX where about is that ? |
| 22:12.31 | belkin | peterS ohh didnt know that |
| 22:12.38 | stew | keex: did you try the 2.6.16 from backports? |
| 22:12.50 | keex | no, not yet |
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| 22:13.11 | peppet | SonnyBurnett: no /etc/www under recent debian |
| 22:13.19 | keex | stew, where was that istruction on backports kernel? |
| 22:13.22 | SonnyBurnett | peppet, I'm sorry /var/www |
| 22:13.35 | MoDaX | belkin: Burn dialog (or project properties) -> filesystems |
| 22:13.47 | Siarom | sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0.8756-pkg1.run -a --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules |
| 22:13.50 | SonnyBurnett | peppet, I want my user to can create directories inside www |
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| 22:14.01 | peterS | belkin: at least, if UDF does not support files greater than 4 GB, that surprises me, since it's intended for use on dual-layer DVDs, which could have 9 GB of a single movie file |
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| 22:14.55 | mankod | . |
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| 22:15.13 | stew | keex: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 22:15.54 | formorer | please read and follow them ;) |
| 22:15.56 | keex | stew, ok, I followed these (only adding the backports to the sources) |
| 22:16.24 | belkin | MoDaX there is no such thing there man |
| 22:16.34 | stew | keex: what cpu do you have? |
| 22:16.35 | peppet | SonnyBurnett: it's noy a good idea.... chgrp to www-data and chmod 770 some subdir of www |
| 22:16.45 | keex | p2 |
| 22:17.16 | MoDaX | belkin: are you running stable, testing, unstable? |
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| 22:17.25 | stew | keex: apt-get -t sarge-backports install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 22:17.32 | nerevar | hey guys |
| 22:17.35 | belkin | MoDaX stable |
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| 22:18.00 | nerevar | i just want to ask wether it is possible to install (fresh) debian from a usb stick? |
| 22:19.04 | peterS | nerevar: yes it is |
| 22:19.04 | SonnyBurnett | peppet, oh ok my user is already member of the www-data group, but what privileges does he get been www-data's member? |
| 22:19.04 | belkin | MoDaX im in project > properties filesystem ... nothing to do here |
| 22:19.04 | nerevar | peters; is there a howto to do this? |
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| 22:19.11 | peterS | nerevar: not sure, but it's definitely supported. I expect the installation manual has some details |
| 22:19.20 | nerevar | im currently using windows only:(, and want to try debian |
| 22:19.28 | belkin | It is not possible to add files bigger than 4 GB |
| 22:19.30 | belkin | :( |
| 22:19.39 | MoDaX | belkin: in unstable there is "generate udf stuctures" checkbox |
| 22:20.07 | belkin | MoDaX i have that already checked |
| 22:20.17 | belkin | what else ? |
| 22:20.30 | nerevar | well i guess i still keep looking for the howto with google |
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| 22:21.31 | keex | 200 megs of updates... |
| 22:21.36 | belkin | MoDaX when i drag the file down it says that it cannot be add to the burn project |
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| 22:22.52 | peterS | nerevar: the 'hd-media' install image can be copied directly to the raw USB stick device (not inside the filesystem) and then just booted directly |
| 22:23.22 | peterS | nerevar: I'm not sure if there's an easy way to do that under Windows. under Unix / Linux it's quite easy, and that's what the install manual talks about |
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| 22:24.08 | stew | keex: you should not be getting 200 megs of updates. |
| 22:24.10 | nerevar | yeah |
| 22:24.11 | nerevar | For preparing the USB stick you will need a system where Linux is already running and where USB is supported |
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| 22:24.19 | peterS | nerevar: but the install manual also talks about a procedure for copying files onto the memory stick and then running syslinux. you can probably do all *that* under windows. |
| 22:24.21 | nerevar | thats what i just learn |
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| 22:24.33 | craig_ | Does anybody know how to make things that I /search for in vim get highlighted? |
| 22:24.45 | MoDaX | belkin: http://k3b.plainblack.com/message-board/adding-files-bigger-than-4gb |
| 22:24.51 | Buchannon | I'm using exim4, and I can send mail out, but I can't get mail back in... I can't seem to figure out why not |
| 22:24.53 | stew | keex: did you edit /etc/apt/preferences |
| 22:24.58 | peterS | nerevar: there exists a syslinux program for windows, don't know if it supports USB drives (it's mainly used for floppies) |
| 22:25.08 | belkin | MoDaX browsing thanks |
| 22:25.15 | MoDaX | belkin: it does not seem to be possible with k3b |
| 22:25.36 | Buchannon | er... opps, I'm using exim4 and I can get mail in, but can't send mail out... any ideas? |
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| 22:25.53 | keex | stew, yes -- AFTER updating the lists in aptitude... |
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| 22:27.19 | belkin | MoDaX then its bad :( |
| 22:27.29 | belkin | MoDaX thanks for yur help |
| 22:27.47 | LikaLika | craig_: :set hlsearch |
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| 22:28.17 | Maulkin | mmm, vim7 is nice :) |
| 22:28.45 | peterS | Maulkin: I notice it's well north of 20 MB by now. good thing I still have emacs for a small and fast editor |
| 22:28.46 | Buchannon | er... opps, I'm using exim4 and I can get mail in, but can't send mail out... any ideas? |
| 22:29.13 | Maulkin | peterS: Although emacs is a very powerful operating system it lacks a decent text editor. |
| 22:29.25 | peterS | (installed size, not memory usage, at least) |
| 22:29.25 | maher | Maulkin: use vi-mode in emacs |
| 22:29.30 | Maulkin | heh |
| 22:29.35 | peterS | ah but *which* vi mode |
| 22:29.41 | maher | Buchannon: look in the exim logs |
| 22:29.47 | Maulkin | !start an editor war |
| 22:29.48 | dpkg | ae sucks |
| 22:29.51 | peterS | something to be said for an editor that includes more than one vi emulation mode |
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| 22:30.14 | anisfarhana | may i know who can help me with hostname / dns server / a record here ? |
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| 22:31.41 | Maulkin | anisfarhana: Probbaly lots of problems, just ask |
| 22:31.51 | Maulkin | s.problems.people |
| 22:32.06 | anisfarhana | no , i cant say it here sir |
| 22:32.17 | Maulkin | Erm... |
| 22:32.27 | maher | anisfarhana: we'll all practise our powers of telepathy... |
| 22:32.28 | spoopin | anisfarhana: check #dns |
| 22:32.54 | anisfarhana | :D |
| 22:33.09 | anisfarhana | thanks guys |
| 22:33.22 | Maulkin | no problems. I think |
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| 22:33.47 | Maulkin | anisfarhana: Please DO NOT message or notice me. |
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| 22:33.57 | anisfarhana | oh sorry |
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| 22:34.05 | Maulkin | anisfarhana: See the topic, or the FAQ |
| 22:34.16 | anisfarhana | :/ k |
| 22:34.18 | aum | hi - i'm looking for pdftosrc, it's supposed to be part of tetex-bin, but debian's tetex-bin doesn't have it - any ideas? |
| 22:34.25 | Maulkin | And type "/j #dns" |
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| 22:34.40 | draft | hello |
| 22:35.12 | Maulkin | draft: If you have a question, please just ask |
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| 22:35.54 | maher | aum: have you tried the packages.debian.org search page |
| 22:36.08 | psofa | how do i suid a binary? |
| 22:36.18 | peterS | psofa: do you know why you want to do this? |
| 22:36.19 | Maulkin | !tell aum about search |
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| 22:36.26 | draft | ok :) could anyone tell me how to know the packages who need a package: i would know if i can remove dhcp-client without removing other package (and this without try :p) ? |
| 22:36.28 | Maulkin | aum: Tru some of them :) |
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| 22:36.40 | peterS | psofa: the way you asked it, it sounds like you don't know what this does anyway. suid isn't a feature to use if you don't know what it is |
| 22:36.44 | psofa | peterS, i do.For realtime priority |
| 22:36.48 | Maulkin | draft: apt-cache showpkg <packagename> |
| 22:36.57 | Maulkin | draft: look under reverse-dependancies |
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| 22:37.05 | kyncani | draft: or apt-get remove --dry-run |
| 22:37.06 | keex | stew, I answered you |
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| 22:37.16 | peterS | it's got serious security implications. but if you really want to potentially compromise your system, use 'chmod u+s'. |
| 22:37.33 | draft | ok thanx a lot Maulkin ! :) |
| 22:37.33 | psofa | peterS, it will give the binary root rights |
| 22:37.44 | bulio| | whats the difference between xorg and xorg common? |
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| 22:38.59 | peterS | bulio|: 'xorg common' is a meaningless term. what is your real question? |
| 22:39.33 | nvz | how do i get two deb boxes to talk across a hub wo a gateway i set them to 10.0.0.1 and .2 i get dest unreachable |
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| 22:39.53 | blondie | nvz: did you set subnet mask etc the same? |
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| 22:40.00 | bulio| | peterS: I can apt-get install xorg, or xorg-common |
| 22:40.04 | draft | well i ask this question because i have a little problem: im actually on Sarge and i want to use "etch packages". I already try it about 1 month ago, but after upgrading the package and reboot, my internet connection didnt work.... is anyone has already this problem or could help me please ? |
| 22:40.06 | bulio| | what is the difference between the two? |
| 22:40.06 | peterS | nvz: dest unreachable means your routing table doesn't think there's a way to get to the other IP. that's strange, any subnet setting should allow this. |
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| 22:40.20 | FromTO | just compiled a 2.6.16 kernel the debian way but I have a kernel panic cannot find root system. However I looked at grub menu.list file and all the oiptions are the same as my lder kernel except there is no initrd.img. Can someone helps |
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| 22:40.24 | Jacobo221 | hi. how can i change an vfat partition label? |
| 22:40.24 | peterS | bulio|: xorg-common is an implementation detail you shouldn't have to worry about. use xorg. |
| 22:40.36 | draft | (i have intrenet under eth1 and use DHCP) |
| 22:40.47 | peterS | Jacobo221: there may be other ways, but what I'd use is mlabel from mtools |
| 22:40.52 | bulio| | PeterS: Ok |
| 22:41.09 | draft | *(this is why i think that dhcp-client is tha "mistaken package) |
| 22:41.15 | Jacobo221 | FromTO: your new kernel has compiled the ide (or sata or whatever) driver as a module. since you are not runing the initrd image with the jkernel, it cannot load it and therefore fails to use the disk |
| 22:41.18 | maher | FromTO: use --with-initrd or something - read the make-kpkg docs |
| 22:41.25 | Jacobo221 | peterS: ah, k. thanks :) |
| 22:41.49 | hjubal | bye |
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| 22:42.34 | draft | could anyone help me please ? |
| 22:43.14 | FromTO | thanks guys |
| 22:45.06 | maher | aum: its there because its on my system |
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| 22:46.35 | aum | maher: i'm running unstable on x86 and it's not on mine |
| 22:46.53 | aum | maher: so do you have a /usr/bin/pdftosrc ? |
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| 22:47.51 | maher | aum: yes - go to packages.debian.org and do the find file thingy |
| 22:47.52 | MoDaX | aum: it's in tetex-bin |
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| 22:48.58 | aum | maher, MoDaX - not in unstable, only in stable |
| 22:49.15 | maher | aum: oops - you are right |
| 22:51.40 | MoDaX | aum: there should a reason or it's a bug |
| 22:51.53 | MoDaX | should be* |
| 22:52.42 | peterS | the changelog doesn't mention that pdftosrc has been removed |
| 22:52.53 | peterS | in fact, it implies that it has merely been updated to use the poppler library |
| 22:55.22 | MoDaX | aum: http://lists.debian.org/debian-tetex-maint/2005/08/msg00367.html |
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| 23:01.03 | Genjuro | i have a problem with the apt-get its shows me this error Segmentation fault |
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| 23:01.54 | charzero | I got that once. Turned out to be bad RAM. |
| 23:02.38 | craig_ | yeah, that's what I'd say too |
| 23:02.41 | craig_ | restart your computer |
| 23:02.43 | craig_ | try again |
| 23:02.54 | craig_ | if it keeps happening, turn on your BIOS's failsafe configuration |
| 23:03.13 | craig_ | (or buy new, faster ram) |
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| 23:06.07 | Genjuro | ... |
| 23:06.09 | Genjuro | thks |
| 23:07.17 | maher | Genjuro: paste the error in pastebin... |
| 23:07.50 | Genjuro | what's address? |
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| 23:08.26 | Genjuro | ok |
| 23:08.27 | Genjuro | wait |
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| 23:10.16 | stew | irc.debian.org is an alias for irc.oftc.net. |
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| 23:10.30 | politik | how do I find out which version of gcc my debian kernel was compiled with? I am trying to compile some modules and I'm getting strange problems |
| 23:10.39 | stew | politik: cat /proc/version |
| 23:10.48 | Genjuro | maher, http://genjuro.pastebin.com/756663 |
| 23:11.45 | maher | Genjuro: dunno - try stracing it and see where it dies |
| 23:11.58 | politik | I am getting errors in dmesg that say things like "kernel: ipw3945: disagrees about version of symbol foo" |
| 23:12.03 | Genjuro | maher, ok |
| 23:12.12 | politik | ipw3945 is the module I am trying desparately to load |
| 23:12.25 | Kalmm | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.36 | Genjuro | maher, http://genjuro.pastebin.com/756671 |
| 23:13.10 | philips | are there any apt-get repo's for DRI? I am trying to get my x60s 945GM working w/ 3d accel. |
| 23:13.18 | maher | Genjuro: dunno |
| 23:13.35 | politik | Kalmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record |
| 23:13.55 | maher | Genjuro: maybe you do have bad ram... |
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| 23:14.07 | Genjuro | bad ram? |
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| 23:15.03 | maher | Genjuro: well its not doing anything except looking at memory and then bailing... |
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| 23:16.58 | howard | hi, does anyone know how to disable PCMCIA with grub? |
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| 23:17.26 | peterS | !ops update topic? move to oftc is now done |
| 23:17.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: peters complains about: update topic? move to oftc is now done |
| 23:18.31 | bulio | where does opera install to? |
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| 23:18.46 | blondie | /usr/local/ ? |
| 23:18.55 | politik | anyone had a problem like mine before? |
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| 23:19.15 | politik | with "X disagrees about version of symbol Y" |
| 23:19.22 | bulio | not there |
| 23:19.35 | *** topic/#debian by mentor -> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC June 4th - /msg dpkg oftc move | STATUS: http://wiki.debian.org/Status | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 23:19.39 | blondie | updatedb; locate opera |
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| 23:19.48 | mentor | topicdiff: verb tense and a hyphen |
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| 23:20.08 | mentor | !oftc move |
| 23:20.08 | dpkg | irc.debian.org is moving to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 23:20.37 | mentor | !no oftc move is irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network. Want to know why? See http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 23:20.38 | dpkg | mentor: okay |
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| 23:21.15 | maher | politik: it normally means the module was compiled against the wrong kernel headers |
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| 23:23.09 | politik | maher: thought so, but I don't see how that is happening in my case (dammit) |
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| 23:23.41 | politik | maher: there is no way to see which version a module was compiled against, is there |
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| 23:24.03 | redes22 | lol |
| 23:25.00 | kyncani | politik: modinfo |
| 23:25.02 | maher | politik: where did you get the module from? |
| 23:25.04 | bulio | how can I tell my debian version? |
| 23:25.14 | maher | bulio: cat /etc/debian-version |
| 23:25.26 | politik | I have two sets of modules I am compiling, one is ieee80211, the other is ipw3945, which is an intel wireless card driver |
| 23:25.44 | politik | maher: I'm compiling them myself, which is why I don't see how I could have the wrong version |
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| 23:26.07 | maher | politik: are they supported by module-assistant? |
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| 23:26.49 | politik | maher: not sure, I hadn't heard of module-assistant |
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| 23:27.25 | politik | the frustrating thing is, I had these drivers working fine, until yesterday when I rebooted and the device never came back up |
| 23:27.29 | ic3man05 | massive xorg update on etch today |
| 23:28.15 | politik | alright, modinfo shows that the modules were compiled against my current kernel... |
| 23:29.07 | junix | i'm having a problem with autoconf when doing updates.... |
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| 23:29.21 | junix | it keeps saying connection refused when trying to receive bug reports.... |
| 23:29.58 | kingsley | Is it possible to link a file, other than a library, at run time, so that only one instance of a program sees the link? |
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| 23:30.10 | maher | politik: use module-assistant if you can - otherwise check the kernel name strings are exactly the same |
| 23:30.20 | VolVE | hey all, noob question time - in laying out the partitions for a server, is it advisable to give /proc it's own partition, and how does one judge the space that will be required? |
| 23:30.35 | blondie | VolVE: I dont think it is |
| 23:30.55 | maher | VolVE: no - proc is a virtual fs |
| 23:30.58 | kyncani | VolVE: /proc is a virtual partition |
| 23:31.08 | kyncani | yep, meant fs |
| 23:31.09 | politik | maher: yeah they are the same. ugh |
| 23:31.13 | VolVE | ah, so where is the space it uses? |
| 23:31.27 | maher | politik: ok - dunnno |
| 23:31.28 | VolVE | or does it not actually use any... ? |
| 23:31.39 | maher | VolVE: it uses space in ram... |
| 23:31.49 | VolVE | oh ok, so glad I asked :) |
| 23:32.06 | VolVE | thanks all |
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| 23:33.10 | fas3r | hi all |
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| 23:35.48 | politik | maher: is the version shown by modinfo the same version that is referred to in those dmesg errors, or does it mean something else like "the function signature is different" |
| 23:35.49 | fas3r | nobody know what's the name of the patche to use iptables on seven layers ? |
| 23:36.25 | politik | seven layers? |
| 23:36.31 | junix | could someone help me with this.... http://pastebin.com/756707 |
| 23:36.31 | Shadowcat | seven layers? |
| 23:36.53 | fas3r | seven cost if you prefer |
| 23:36.54 | maher | politik: dunno |
| 23:37.10 | Shadowcat | iptables does not operate on the entire OSI layer |
| 23:37.13 | Shadowcat | it cannot do that |
| 23:37.25 | Arafangion | How do I get my usb discs to automount "nicely"? |
| 23:37.48 | fas3r | Shadowcat, i know but they are a patches for makethis |
| 23:38.45 | VlivE | help with an amd64 netinstall that don't recognize cd/dvd rom drive? |
| 23:39.01 | Arafangion | I have tried using autofs, but it does not work nicely. - I can't just plug in a drive, I also have to _guess_ which directory is the one that contains the mount. |
| 23:39.50 | Arafangion | I can't just plug a drive called "ARAFANGION" in, and go to /media/ARAFANGION (It would be even better to have an icon appear on my desktop) |
| 23:39.51 | maher | Arafangion: are these drives with ext2/3 fs's? |
| 23:39.53 | Arafangion | How can I do this? |
| 23:40.06 | Arafangion | maher: One of them is, yes. All my others are vfat. |
| 23:40.43 | maher | Arafangion: with ext2/3 you can give the drive a label and add an entry to fstab |
| 23:41.00 | Arafangion | maher: Likewise with FAT usb discs. |
| 23:41.12 | maher | Arafangion: with gnome the gnome volume manager should add an icon, unless you have an fstab entry |
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| 23:41.38 | simonrvn | !tell root_ about root |
| 23:41.40 | Arafangion | maher: Oh, got any docs on the ext2/3 'labels'? I'm guessing this is a bit different to the 'name' of the fat? |
| 23:41.43 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 23:42.06 | kyncani | Arafangion: I think you can use udev to map some specific drive to /dev/arafangion and automount it with autofs. I have not investigated this however. |
| 23:42.23 | maher | Arafangion: e2label |
| 23:42.56 | Arafangion | kyncani: Why should I have to map every specific drive manually? |
| 23:43.09 | Arafangion | kyncani: This is just simply unfeasible. |
| 23:43.18 | maher | Arafangion: do you use gnome |
| 23:43.24 | Arafangion | maher: Currently, yes. |
| 23:43.39 | Arafangion | maher: gnome-volume-manager doesn't seem to be working. I should mention that I am using Sarge |
| 23:43.46 | maher | Arafangion: remove the fstab entries for sdX and see if you get icons on the desktop |
| 23:44.16 | kyncani | Arafangion: not every drive, just the ones you always want to have the same device name, mount point, ... |
| 23:44.30 | Arafangion | kyncani: You didn't listen to what I was saying. |
| 23:44.33 | politik | fas3r: no there isnt |
| 23:44.41 | Arafangion | kyncani: I want any random usb drive to be mounted under it's name. |
| 23:44.59 | Arafangion | kyncani: My friend has called his drive "Vallie", I want to see it under /media/Vallie |
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| 23:45.04 | fas3r | maybe it's not iptables but i know they are a utils for log 7 layers of OSI models |
| 23:45.13 | Arafangion | kyncani: Another friend hasn't labbelled it, I want to see it as some default label. |
| 23:45.22 | politik | fas3r: look at iproute2 |
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| 23:45.34 | Arafangion | maher: I don't get the icons, let's see if restarting gnome-volume-manager does anything... |
| 23:46.09 | mart- | can anyone explain this line from the default debian/rules template : CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) -Wl,-z,defs" |
| 23:46.22 | mart- | ? |
| 23:46.29 | Arafangion | maher: Interesting, it says something about not being able to execute "pmount". |
| 23:46.39 | maher | Arafangion: are you in the plugdev group? |
| 23:47.01 | mart- | it causes a lot of warnings, and I wonder why it's not LDFLAGS=... |
| 23:47.06 | VlivE | help with an amd64 netinstall that don't recognize cd/dvd rom drive it boots from bios fine but netinstall fails at loading cdrom modules?? |
| 23:47.15 | Arafangion | maher: Not likely. |
| 23:47.42 | maher | mart-: CFLAGS is the compiler options, LDFLAGS is the linker options |
| 23:47.48 | |ryan| | hello |
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| 23:48.16 | mart- | maher: I know.. that's why I don't see why it's setting CFLAGS - those are flags for the linker. |
| 23:48.51 | |ryan| | I am trying to compile the source from the debian zaptel-source package, but make is failing, can anyone help me? I get "make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop." |
| 23:49.03 | maher | mart-: you can pass flags to the linker via the command for gcc - particularly if you don't invoke the linker separately but mrely through gcc |
| 23:49.32 | mart- | maher: that doesn't really answer the question why it doesn't just set the LDFLAGS :/ |
| 23:49.49 | mart- | if you add it to the CFLAGS, you get warnings when it's not actually linking anything. |
| 23:49.55 | maher | |ryan|: is zaptel supported by module-assisatnt? if so use that |
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| 23:50.06 | |ryan| | module-assisatnt? |
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| 23:50.21 | maher | mart-: I don't know - try setting LDFLAGS and see if it's happy... |
| 23:50.59 | Arafangion | maher: That did the trick! |
| 23:51.29 | rolo | quit |
| 23:51.32 | ic3man05 | I can't get xorg to start up anymore, its complaining about not finding glx module and nvidia module |
| 23:51.33 | Arafangion | maher: Now, just as a question, does gnome-volume-manager automatically mount things in sync mode? Also, does KDE have a similar program? |
| 23:52.13 | ic3man05 | the nvidia module is loaded and not sure how to get the glx module loaded |
| 23:52.28 | maher | Arafangion: dunno - try man pmount, and kde must have some auto mount thingy but i don't know exactly what... |
| 23:52.52 | Arafangion | maher: pmount looks reasonably generic, but thanks for your help :) I could always run gnome-volume-manager from kde |
| 23:53.51 | ic3man05 | exit |
| 23:54.06 | mart- | maher: it works like that, and without the warnings, which makes me wonder why it's set as CFLAGS in the template. |
| 23:54.23 | MoDaX | Arafangion: media:/ in kde 3.4 and up |
| 23:54.29 | mart- | you'd think there was some reason behind them using CFLAGS. |
| 23:54.50 | emdash_ | i almost hate to ask this question but i'm having trouble finding info on switching from sarge to testing: specifically the things i might want to change in apt-preferences or sources.list |
| 23:55.13 | Arafangion | maher: I am planning to wipe my laptop, and just install Debian on it (Currently is a dual-boot between windows and Ubuntu, but I'm a long time Debian user - though I'm more of a server guy than a desktop guy) |
| 23:55.15 | simonrvn | dpkg: sarge->etch |
| 23:55.16 | dpkg | Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch'. Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then consider subscribing do debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. ask me about <testing security> |
| 23:55.43 | formorer | normally I would say: if you have to ask, testing is not for you |
| 23:56.13 | emdash_ | okay never mind |
| 23:56.22 | emdash_ | i think i found it |
| 23:56.24 | maher | emdash_: why not install testing in a chroot |
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| 23:56.35 | mirak | hi |
| 23:56.43 | Arafangion | formorer: What is testing like? I have used Sid for a while, but learned that it was more work than I wanted, so I've been just using Stable for a few years. |
| 23:56.45 | emdash_ | maher: disk space |
| 23:56.57 | mirak | what is the name of the script run for the debian installer ? |
| 23:57.10 | Arafangion | formorer: I even downgraded a Sid server to Sarge ;) |
| 23:57.25 | maher | mirak: do you want debootstrap? |
| 23:58.00 | emdash_ | formorer: hm, i have never done that but i know someone who has |
| 23:58.02 | mart- | ah, that's another question that showed up today... what's the difference between debootstrap and cdebootstrap? |
| 23:58.03 | emdash_ | er |
| 23:58.06 | formorer | Arafangion: its just daily fun, not exactly like sid, but similiar |
| 23:58.10 | maher | mart-: perl vs c |
| 23:58.23 | emdash_ | formorer: srry not you |
| 23:58.24 | Arafangion | formorer: In that case, I think I'll stay with Stable. |
| 23:58.33 | formorer | Arafangion: good choice |
| 23:58.47 | mirak | maher: partially. What I want is the menus with all the install phases |
| 23:58.55 | mart- | hmm.. gotta wonder why you'd bother reimplementing debootstrap. :) |
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| 23:59.15 | Arafangion | formorer: The way I think of it, manually compiling, installing and maintaining the odd package is easier than a less stable distro. |
| 23:59.17 | maher | Arafangion: stable is for when you need to use the machine to do work, rather than working on the machine.. :) |
| 23:59.19 | simonrvn | smaller |
| 23:59.50 | maher | Arafangion: backports do common packages for you |
