| 00:00.03 | travisat | sybariten: those with ii in front are installed |
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| 00:00.19 | dondelelcaro | travisat: addressing 400 or using 400? There's a big difference. |
| 00:00.28 | travisat | dondelelcaro: using |
| 00:00.34 | abrotman | tc_: they're used to compile .. the binaries that you normally install are just binaries .. no header files that can be used with compiles |
| 00:00.37 | dondelelcaro | travisat: and you found this out how? |
| 00:00.42 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = the porblem could be from m ysquid proxy also.. |
| 00:00.44 | travisat | dondelelcaro: top |
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| 00:01.12 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = theres so many factor tat cause could cause the problem |
| 00:01.29 | sybariten | travisat: thanks! |
| 00:01.46 | travisat | how would one find out how much it is using |
| 00:01.48 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: wait, so there's a squid proxy running on the router as well? |
| 00:01.57 | Peggerr | what is a SAS disk?? |
| 00:02.41 | dondelelcaro | travisat: it's a bit more difficult; although 400M does seem like way too much even for it to be addressing. See http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html FE. |
| 00:02.42 | tc_ | abrotman, oh!!! |
| 00:02.46 | william | hey all |
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| 00:03.03 | tc_ | abrotman, good explain |
| 00:03.04 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = yes |
| 00:03.08 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: When you say that 'downloading and surfing is really smooth', is your browser configured to use that proxy? |
| 00:03.23 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = well im using transparency proxy |
| 00:03.33 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = so all port 80 is automtaily sent to squid |
| 00:03.46 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = surfing on the net doenst have trouble, only when im playing game or trying to chat on msn |
| 00:03.56 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = im starting losing packets.. tats strange. |
| 00:04.15 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = if my memories is good, the problem happened when i installed squid... but im not pretty sure |
| 00:04.16 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: do non-proxy connections work at all? |
| 00:04.36 | InstallGrub | should |
| 00:04.56 | InstallGrub | well i can conenct to the game and everything, but during the game play, im losing packets.. it make lag.. |
| 00:05.32 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = MSN also acts weird.. on few of my stattion, msn works, other doesnt.. |
| 00:05.50 | InstallGrub | squid rules is same for all stattion and iptables also |
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| 00:06.33 | tc_ | abrotman, i think i have installed the both libraries, but it's giving the same error still |
| 00:07.47 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: can you post the output of "iptables -nvL ; echo ==== ; ip link show ; echo ==== ; ip addr show" to a pastebin? |
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| 00:08.10 | InstallGrub | yes sec |
| 00:09.13 | InstallGrub | http://pastebin.com/658774 |
| 00:10.17 | Peggerr | humm what hardware should i buy for my asterik setup, hardware from, sun or hp, HP is cheep er buy sun makes nicer equpemnt but is more expensive |
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| 00:10.56 | Miesco | Okay im trying to setup my audio mime or whatever for mc |
| 00:11.41 | jade | my screen (man 1 screen) is frozen i.e. doesn't accept keyboard input. i tried C-q in case i typed C-s accidentally, but that didn't help. any ideas how to get it unstuck? |
| 00:11.42 | Miesco | It used realplayer but I deleted realplayer cause I didn't want realplayer to be the program for the mime type |
| 00:11.42 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: ok, also "ip route show ; echo ==== ; iptables -t nat -nvL" |
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| 00:12.39 | InstallGrub | http://pastebin.com/658780 |
| 00:13.36 | tc_ | what's the name of the apt channel?? |
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| 00:14.44 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: If you get rid of that TCPMSS entry in your FORWARD chain, does it work better? |
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| 00:15.13 | Miesco | Anyone know how I can change mime types? |
| 00:15.58 | Dwonis | Miesco: /etc/mailcap.order |
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| 00:16.00 | fenestro | Is it expected for a package in stable (libapache2-request-perl) to depend on a package not in stable (perl (>= 5.8.4-8sarge4))? |
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| 00:16.42 | InstallGrub | hmm |
| 00:16.46 | InstallGrub | tcpmss ?? |
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| 00:17.32 | dephi | Hi! does anyone have experience using the check_esx plugin with nagios? |
| 00:17.33 | Miesco | Dwonis: I make new ones in there? |
| 00:17.57 | Dwonis | Miesco: read the instructions at the top of the file |
| 00:17.58 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = want me to copy past my firewall rules iptables? os u can tell me what line to remove. |
| 00:18.01 | jade | C-a q fixed my frozen screen issue. |
| 00:18.06 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: ok |
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| 00:18.57 | jade | !seen bob2 |
| 00:18.57 | dpkg | bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 120d 17h 13m 39s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'. |
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| 00:19.23 | azeem | jade: :( |
| 00:19.29 | jade | hehe |
| 00:19.35 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = i sent it privatly |
| 00:19.47 | Dwonis | fenestro: libapache2-request-perl 2.04-dev-1 depends on perl (>= 5.8.4-8), which _is_ in stable. |
| 00:19.53 | smacnay | gravity: where is bob2? |
| 00:20.01 | gravity | smacnay: I don't know |
| 00:20.04 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: I don't think freenode is allowing private messages right now; I didn't receive it |
| 00:20.06 | gravity | No one seems to know |
| 00:20.22 | InstallGrub | http://pastebin.com/658788 |
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| 00:20.38 | azeem | 01:47 < pasc> liw: bob2 has fallen off the side of the earth |
| 00:20.39 | azeem | 01:47 < pasc> domain expired, mobile disconnected... |
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| 00:21.13 | jade | azeem, send him a new mobile! |
| 00:21.15 | adrakoa | hi, problem in boot with framebuffer: intelfb: Non-CRT device is enabled ( LVDS port ). Disabling mode switching. |
| 00:21.22 | fenestro | Dwonis: when I "apt-get install libapache2-request-perl" on a brand new 3.1r1a system, it says "libapache2-request-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.8.4-8sarge4) but 5.8.4-8sarge3 is to be installed" |
| 00:21.34 | chealer | fenestro: no |
| 00:21.55 | fenestro | chealer: no, it doesn't say that? It's right here on my screen, I assure you. |
| 00:22.00 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: hmm, I don't see it... I'm referring to line 16 in http://pastebin.com/658774 |
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| 00:22.12 | chealer | fenestro: I was answering to your question |
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| 00:22.19 | Eulex | chealer, umh, depends on arch |
| 00:22.24 | Eulex | http://packages.debian.org/stable/perl/libapache2-request-perl |
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| 00:22.58 | Eulex | and 5.8.4-8sarge4 does indeed seem to unavailable |
| 00:23.23 | chealer | Eulex: yes |
| 00:23.31 | fenestro | chealer: ok, sorry |
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| 00:23.49 | Miesco | Dwonis: Is there a GUI program that can edit the mailcap file? |
| 00:23.56 | chealer | Eulex: it's only in s-p-u |
| 00:24.19 | Dwonis | Miesco: any text editor |
| 00:24.25 | fenestro | ah, I guess this is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=360900 |
| 00:24.36 | chealer | fenestro: yes |
| 00:25.00 | Eulex | chealer, s-p-u? |
| 00:25.14 | EruditeHermit | hey, can anyone help me with http://rafb.net/paste/results/gDACfH16.html |
| 00:25.27 | fenestro | so, how soon is "quite soon" after April 5th? ;-) |
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| 00:26.08 | chealer | dpkg: s-p-u is stable proposed updates |
| 00:26.09 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 00:26.09 | EruditeHermit | I have the files it mentions |
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| 00:26.36 | EruditeHermit | /lib/libdl.so.2 and it points to /lib/libdl-2.3.6.so |
| 00:26.39 | Miesco | Dwonis: But a GUI program to edit it like how Control Center in KDE controls the 'File Associations' |
| 00:26.48 | EruditeHermit | and the counterparts in /lib/tls/ |
| 00:26.53 | Dwonis | EruditeHermit: It's not complaining that you don't have libdl, _libdl_ is complaining that you don't have some other lib |
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| 00:27.03 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, ldd /lib/libdl-2.3.6.so? |
| 00:27.21 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: you around? |
| 00:27.21 | Miesco | Dwonis: How does it get updated when you delete programs and stuff |
| 00:27.28 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = tat weird.. bcuz i dont put any rules of it :S |
| 00:27.29 | InstallGrub | Dwonis |
| 00:27.38 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, that will tell you if some of its dependencies are missing and if so which |
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| 00:28.11 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: It looks like it's part of your pppoe configuration |
| 00:28.32 | Dwonis | It's in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0clamp |
| 00:28.32 | Dwonis | mss |
| 00:28.41 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: It's in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0clampmss |
| 00:29.13 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: http://rafb.net/paste/results/EBGmfc61.html |
| 00:29.31 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: I have all those apart from linux-gate.so.1 |
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| 00:29.38 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: is that supposed to be in / ? |
| 00:29.46 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: that looks really odd |
| 00:29.55 | InstallGrub | Dwonis= what should i do? |
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| 00:30.01 | Covener | EruditeHermit: linux-gate is a 2.6 kernel syscall interface, doesn't exist in filesystem |
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| 00:30.11 | nyk2005 | I just configured 2 apache servers on gentoo for SSL, now I try on debian in (almost) the same way. But I can't connect to port 443, even from localhost. What could be wrong? I installed certs, configured a vhost and enabled the ssl.conf and ssl.load .. |
| 00:30.16 | Squall` | Is it possible to use LILO instead of GRUB for debian and still be using the debian management tools? |
| 00:30.25 | Covener | nyk2005: Listen directive in addition to adding vhost? |
| 00:30.26 | dondelelcaro | nyk2005: you need to tell apache to listen on 443. |
| 00:30.31 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: hmm... |
| 00:30.36 | EruditeHermit | Covener: then I guess I have them all |
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| 00:30.49 | Covener | EruditeHermit: you have a libdl.so.2 symlink where something woulf find it? |
| 00:30.52 | nyk2005 | dondelelcaro: isn't that in mods-available/ssl.conf? |
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| 00:31.03 | travisat | Squall`: I would think so |
| 00:31.04 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, I think linux-gate.so.1 is built-into linux in some way. |
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| 00:31.27 | Miesco | How come there is like 3 audio/mpeg filetypes in /etc/mailcap |
| 00:31.29 | travisat | Squall`: although why you would use lilo is beyond me |
| 00:31.38 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = should i remove that line? :S |
| 00:31.41 | nyk2005 | dondelelcaro: I see, it's not... thanks |
| 00:31.46 | Squall` | travisat, because I know it, and I don't know GRUB. |
| 00:31.50 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: so I am not missing anything |
| 00:31.56 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, nope |
| 00:31.57 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: You could try, I guess (the file itself is generated by pppoeconf) |
| 00:32.01 | travisat | Squall`: learn grub, it has its advantages |
| 00:32.06 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: so what should I do? |
| 00:32.06 | EruditeHermit | =p |
| 00:32.16 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: the problem is really puzzling me |
| 00:32.16 | InstallGrub | mhhh ok |
| 00:32.24 | InstallGrub | i will put in commment |
| 00:32.26 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, I don't know. one guess is that one of those files are corrupted. |
| 00:32.29 | InstallGrub | then retstart iptables |
| 00:32.33 | travisat | if you can boot to grub you can edit the boot command to boot something if you configured menu.lst wrong |
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| 00:32.44 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: ok, I'll try reinstalling them all |
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| 00:32.50 | Dwonis | InstallGrub: you'd have to restart iptables and pppoe, I think |
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| 00:33.23 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, you may need to copy those files from a working system, as bash doesn't seem to work on your system. |
| 00:33.35 | Covener | EruditeHermit: it still looks to me like you skipped a step when you ran ldd on the fully versioned filename and not libdl.so.2 |
| 00:34.10 | nyk2005 | Thanks, it's working! Great! that's the only difference in default |
| 00:34.19 | EruditeHermit | Covener: what do you mean skipped a step? |
| 00:34.29 | EruditeHermit | Covener: ldd /lib/libdl-2.3.6.so right? |
| 00:34.55 | Covener | EruditeHermit: you never got a message that said that was missing, did you? |
| 00:35.01 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = it seem much better now |
| 00:35.08 | InstallGrub | Dwonis = im not sure i will give u news soon as possible ;) |
| 00:35.20 | EruditeHermit | Covener: where? |
| 00:35.49 | Miesco | How come there is more then one audio/mpeg in /etc/mailcap? |
| 00:35.49 | EruditeHermit | Covener: I got a message saying it couldn't open something that was symlinked to it |
| 00:35.50 | Covener | EruditeHermit: if you had a broken/missing symlink for /lib/libdl.so.2 for example, and the post-install linked w/ it by that name |
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| 00:36.04 | EruditeHermit | Covener: I have that symlink |
| 00:36.28 | EruditeHermit | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-04-13 17:21 /lib/libdl.so.2 -> /lib/libdl-2.3.6.so |
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| 00:37.05 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, are you able to launch a new bash? |
| 00:37.34 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: yeah |
| 00:37.48 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: I can downgrade to the old version just fine |
| 00:37.54 | Covener | EruditeHermit: odd, I wonder if the libc6 post-removal script somehow invoked something that needed libdl and the window it was gone was very short |
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| 00:38.28 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, then it seems like the libc6 you're upgrading to is b0rked |
| 00:38.44 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: but NO ONE else has this problem |
| 00:38.53 | heycam | Hi. Can someone tell me what package(s) I need installed to make nautilus able to browse smb shares? |
| 00:39.06 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: libc6 bugs would be critical and people would notice |
| 00:39.07 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, hmm. what version are you upgrading from, btw? |
| 00:39.20 | EruditeHermit | 2.3.6-5 to 2.3.6-6 |
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| 00:40.11 | Covener | wow, growisofs is absolutely screaming compared to a month ago! |
| 00:40.39 | Dwonis | Miesco: That's normal. That's why we have /etc/mailcap.order in the first place. |
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| 00:43.29 | leaveone | what is the command to get your ip address? ifconfig isnt working |
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| 00:44.27 | Covener | leaveone: 'ip addr' |
| 00:44.32 | Klohunt | :( I am trying to install Debian for the first time, but cant get it to recognize my ethernet card... It is an NVidia ethernet card, and I was using the forcedeth.c driver on Ubuntu but it says it "failed to load" in Debian. Can anyone help me? |
| 00:44.33 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: what version of libc6 are you on? |
| 00:45.00 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, I'm on testing; thus 2.3.6-3 |
| 00:45.38 | leaveone | Covener, what dir is that in.. apparently its not in my $PATH |
| 00:46.10 | Covener | leaveone: iproute package (/bin/ip) |
| 00:46.47 | Covener | EruditeHermit: just performed that same upgrade w/o a hitch fwiw |
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| 00:47.01 | EruditeHermit | Covener: no one else seems to have any problems |
| 00:47.05 | Eulex | leaveone, if ifconfig -a doesn't show it, something's b0rked |
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| 00:47.33 | Eulex | EruditeHermit, file a bug anyway |
| 00:47.58 | Klohunt | Can anyone help me? |
| 00:48.04 | jmd_ | Which line(s) do I have to delete from the testing's gnome packages to prevent it from turning off keyboard repeating? |
| 00:48.38 | dvs | !tell Klohunt -about sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 00:48.47 | Covener | jmd_: can you play with it via the gnome-keyboard-properties ui? |
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| 00:48.53 | Eulex | Klohunt, what kernel version? |
| 00:49.13 | Covener | damn, settings hijacked by gnome-settings-daemon to help jmd! |
| 00:49.19 | leikh | after installing a package with apt-get, how do i do a rollback to get rid of all the other packages that was installed together with it? |
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| 00:49.24 | Klohunt | 2.4.something I think Eulex |
| 00:49.34 | leaveone | heh ok.. i had to apt-get install iproute now ive got ifconfig |
| 00:49.38 | Klohunt | I couldnt figure out why |
| 00:49.41 | Eulex | Klohunt, try the 2.6.8 kernel |
| 00:49.51 | leaveone | i wonder why that doesnt install by default.. seems like something a user would need |
| 00:49.53 | tapox | Hey everyone, my router sucks. As a result, my computer cannot access itself from its external IP, causing some software to think there's a network problem. How do I go about using iptables to forward requests to connect to its external IP on a certain port, to loopback by said port? |
| 00:50.02 | jmd_ | Covener: I tried that. There doesn't seem to be an appropriate option. And I don't want to have to tell ALL my users to have to perform some complicated click sequence in order to get the machine working the way they are used to. |
| 00:50.08 | Klohunt | Eulex: will 2.6.15 work? |
| 00:50.25 | Covener | jmd_: xset? |
| 00:50.32 | Covener | jmd_: (in default Xsession) |
| 00:50.33 | Eulex | Klohunt, probably, but if 2.6.8 works, it should be more stable. |
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| 00:50.56 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: will do |
| 00:51.13 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: however I don't think it is a bug with libc6 because its only on my machine |
| 00:51.29 | Klohunt | Eulex: Thanks. Do they offer a 2.8 image version download at debian.org? |
| 00:51.40 | dvs | no one does |
| 00:51.44 | Eulex | Klohunt, 2.6.8. and you can just apt-get it. |
| 00:52.03 | dvs | Klohunt: heck, it's an install option for Sarge |
| 00:52.05 | jmd_ | Covener: Yes, xset +r will do the trick. But again, I don't see the sense in having some feature disabled globally and then making each user individually enable it --- especially as playing with x settings would cause unexpected results for non-gnome users. |
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| 00:52.33 | Klohunt | Hmm I see, sorry I didnt get that far into the installation because it wouldnt recognize my ethernet card |
| 00:52.49 | dvs | Klohunt: the option is on the boot: screen |
| 00:52.51 | jmd_ | I'd rather that gnome didn't disable this setting in the first place. But I'm not sure where to look to fix it. |
| 00:52.56 | Eulex | Klohunt, type linux26 at the boot prompt |
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| 00:53.08 | Klohunt | ahhh wow |
| 00:53.30 | Klohunt | Thanks :D |
| 00:53.38 | Eulex | yw :) |
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| 00:53.53 | InstallGrub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.55 | Klohunt | Could me using an outdated kernel be a suspect of my ethernet card not working? |
| 00:53.57 | InstallGrub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:54.14 | Eulex | Klohunt, quite possible |
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| 00:54.23 | dvs | Klohunt: there's only one way to find out |
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| 00:54.40 | Klohunt | Eulex: Ok, I see. And |
| 00:55.09 | Klohunt | dvs: indeed :D |
| 00:55.19 | Eulex | Klohunt, if neither kernels work, try the sarge 2.6.15 netinstall dpkg told you about |
| 00:55.27 | Klohunt | ok |
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| 01:00.14 | minerale | Ok, this is on sarge: apt-get install sshfs worked, but sshfs is not correctly setup |
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| 01:01.09 | epsilon | can anyone recommened me an strace HOWTO? |
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| 01:01.47 | ahogan2 | OT - I'm on etch with alsa. Is there another sound device than /dev/dsp that is standard? |
| 01:03.02 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 01:03.02 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 01:04.45 | Peggerr | what are SAS drives |
| 01:05.44 | Klohunt | serial something scsi |
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| 01:05.58 | heycam | attached? |
| 01:06.13 | Klohunt | indeed attached... |
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| 01:07.03 | EruditeHermit | Eulex: sent |
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| 01:07.58 | epsilon | serial attached small computer system interface |
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| 01:09.25 | freeone3000 | "Need to get 42.9MB of archives. After unpacking, 6.1kB of additional disk space will be used." |
| 01:09.27 | freeone3000 | How does that even work? |
| 01:09.41 | tarzeau | freeone3000: sounds good |
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| 01:10.01 | freeone3000 | Yeah. Miraculous, even. Especially with all the new packages. Must be just the big ones upgraded. |
| 01:10.05 | tarzeau | freeone3000: you have 40 mb software and the newever versions of it occupy 40.0061 mb |
| 01:10.09 | shogunx | freeone3000, some packages shrink as they get refined. |
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| 01:12.12 | leaveone | how do i edit my firewall settings or at least view the settings? |
| 01:12.19 | freeone3000 | What firewall is it? |
| 01:12.28 | leaveone | the debian firewall |
| 01:12.36 | freeone3000 | ...There's a debian firewall? |
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| 01:12.53 | shogunx | leaveone, iptables -L |
| 01:13.05 | leaveone | heh i thought so.. i remember being prompted wether i wanted to install it |
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| 01:13.41 | leaveone | shogunx, is there a gui program for it at all? |
| 01:14.09 | freeone3000 | leaveone: No, but you're free to write one... |
| 01:14.12 | dephi | leaveone: firestarter |
| 01:14.15 | freeone3000 | leaveone: It's a base kernel util... |
| 01:14.19 | freeone3000 | Okay, I was wrong, there is one. :) |
| 01:14.23 | dephi | :) |
| 01:14.30 | shogunx | leaveone, i always just write a script for it, but if you apt-cache search iptables, you should see a list of applicable programs. |
| 01:14.41 | leaveone | haha ok |
| 01:15.06 | minutman1711 | is there a gui for configuring samba under kde ? |
| 01:15.50 | shogunx | minutman1711, its called the power botton on the windows machine. turn it off. |
| 01:15.52 | blondie | mew mew mew |
| 01:16.07 | dephi | minutman1711: : swat is the browser based config |
| 01:16.22 | minutman1711 | thanks |
| 01:16.34 | minutman1711 | im not on windaube |
| 01:16.51 | leaveone | thanks.. i found some programs.. though firestarter wasnt listed |
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| 01:17.50 | shogunx | minutman1711, you are using samba between two linux machines? |
| 01:18.00 | dephi | leaveone: apt-cache show firestarter |
| 01:18.02 | harold | 2 How can I get a list of all open files? |
| 01:18.03 | daeos | what command is used to download a package from a website, is it 'wget' ? |
| 01:18.05 | dephi | it's there |
| 01:18.09 | leaveone | ok |
| 01:18.23 | minutman1711 | under windows an linux machines |
| 01:18.46 | shogunx | harold lsof |
| 01:19.00 | leaveone | i found it.. thanks a lot! |
| 01:19.05 | harold | shogunx: Yes, that rings a bell. Thanks. |
| 01:19.31 | Miesco | I put alsaplayer for audio/mpeg to the TOP of mailcap and when I do: run-mailcap audio/mpeg:file.mp3 IT USES REALPLAYER |
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| 01:21.19 | minerale | anyone here ever used sshfs? I just installed it using apt-get but it's not working |
| 01:21.23 | minerale | 2 |
| 01:21.24 | Miesco | Wait nvm lol |
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| 01:21.55 | unstable | !tell minerale about docs |
| 01:22.15 | unstable | minerale: Always read all text in /usr/share/doc/packagename |
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| 01:25.49 | minutman1711 | Setting up swat (3.0.22-1) ... |
| 01:25.50 | minutman1711 | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 01:25.50 | minutman1711 | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 01:25.51 | minutman1711 | frontend: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| 01:26.10 | minerale | unstable: following the doc, you: a) install sshfs + dependencies, b) run sshfs hostname:mountpoint .... and that' exactly what i'm doing but it's not working |
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| 01:30.00 | minutman1711 | sorry for the inconvenience |
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| 01:32.51 | minerale | what does "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-xenU/modules.dep" mean? |
| 01:33.19 | freeone3000 | A fatal error occured. |
| 01:33.24 | freeone3000 | It couldn't load that. |
| 01:33.28 | freeone3000 | Thank you, come again. |
| 01:34.16 | dimir | Neeeeeeeeeeeeext! |
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| 01:40.57 | Thanatermesis | im bulding a debootstrap but i can't posible to umount the /proc dir (its the 2º time, also after a reboot), any person knows how to umount it FORCELY ? |
| 01:41.01 | mngrif | can a normal debian install CD be used to do a network install? |
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| 01:41.36 | dondelelcaro | mngrif: yes. |
| 01:41.47 | mngrif | dondelelcaro, making sure |
| 01:41.48 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: eh? |
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| 01:42.19 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: you shouldn't need to umount the /proc. If something has it open, you need to kill it off, and then umount it. |
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| 01:42.59 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro oh.. sorry.... the dir is debootstrap/proc, mounted on "mount -t proc" |
| 01:43.48 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: right, have you stopped all processes running in debootstrap/proc? |
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| 01:44.40 | mngrif | what should be used for the amd64 arch? ia64? |
| 01:44.47 | dondelelcaro | mngrif: amd64. |
| 01:44.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell mngrif -about amd64 |
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| 01:45.23 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: amd64 =~ s/not official yet/now official/ |
| 01:45.23 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 01:45.25 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro aprently this is the problem, a package to i have installed to are (using?) the debootstrap/proc... mmh, let me check if i found any process |
| 01:45.47 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: lsof will clue you in |
| 01:46.04 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: if you really don't care, you can use -l to umount it, but the process will still be using proc. |
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| 01:46.34 | dandesousa | m |
| 01:46.40 | yykse | gkghkjhk |
| 01:46.53 | dandesousa | yup still connected |
| 01:47.14 | jair | guys, I have a IBM computer where I want to install debian as a second operating system, but I forgot my BIOS password and I tried to upgrade the BIOs using a flash utility and the password still there. |
| 01:47.20 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, "rpc" aparently... |
| 01:47.26 | ruckerz | hmm lemme guess xorg 7 doesn't work with nvidia |
| 01:47.38 | dondelelcaro | jair: so short out the bios battery to reset it |
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| 01:47.47 | dondelelcaro | jair: or do whatever the manual for the bios tells you to do. |
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| 01:48.19 | jair | dondelelcaro, so I should be able of clear the password flashing the BIOS right? |
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| 01:48.39 | dandesousa | depending on which bois you have |
| 01:48.42 | dondelelcaro | jair: no, by shorting out the bios battery. |
| 01:48.44 | dandesousa | there is a master password |
| 01:48.52 | jair | cool |
| 01:48.58 | jair | dondelelcaro, thank you |
| 01:49.05 | citral | or on some mobos by adjusting a jumper |
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| 01:49.23 | dondelelcaro | citral: yeah, generally that jumper does the same thing... unless they're using flash or something |
| 01:49.39 | citral | yes |
| 01:50.34 | citral | of course if it's thinkpad it will be harder :] |
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| 01:51.48 | dvs | citral: like what? hooking it up to a nuclear power plant? ;-) |
| 01:52.04 | pipeline | ruckerz: nah, it's fine |
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| 01:52.12 | pipeline | ruckerz: You need the newest nvidia drivers from sid, though |
| 01:52.22 | citral | dvs: one can inject gas too :) |
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| 01:52.32 | ruckerz | pipeline: what's the package name? i need the legacy drivers |
| 01:52.38 | pipeline | ruckerz: Then you're fucked. |
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| 01:52.49 | ruckerz | pipeline: the legacy's don't work? |
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| 01:53.05 | pipeline | ruckerz: I don't think nvidia updated them. |
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| 01:53.21 | ruckerz | pipeline: for x.org? |
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| 01:54.18 | pipeline | ruckerz: At all. You need the newest nvidia drivers for X11R7, and I don't think the legacies got the new version. |
| 01:54.39 | ruckerz | pipeline: it was working until i updated xorg |
| 01:54.40 | ruckerz | hmm |
| 01:55.26 | freeone3000 | What's a score of -88 mean? |
| 01:55.33 | freeone3000 | On aptitude's package thingy. |
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| 01:55.44 | Halitherses | I need to reduce the resolution of Xorg. How do I reconfigure Xorg? |
| 01:55.55 | pipeline | ruckerz: Yes. Xorg 6.9 is X11R6. Xorg 7.0 is X11R7. |
| 01:55.57 | dvs | !drxx Halitherses |
| 01:55.57 | dpkg | Halitherses: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:56.23 | Halitherses | ta |
| 01:56.31 | ruckerz | pipeline: any ideas on how to rollback? |
| 01:56.50 | pipeline | ruckerz: Don't. Use the nv driver instead of the proprietary ones. |
| 01:56.55 | ruckerz | hmm |
| 01:57.14 | ruckerz | i tried.. i get this (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device |
| 01:58.19 | freeone3000 | ruckerz: Do you have an nvidia card? |
| 01:58.20 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro its posible because to a (new?) "mountall" related init script on etch ? |
| 01:58.27 | ruckerz | freeone3000: yep tnt2 ultra |
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| 01:58.57 | freeone3000 | pipeline: Are the public nvidia drivers that much better? |
| 01:59.36 | pipeline | freeone3000: They're terrible. |
| 01:59.43 | pipeline | freeone3000: Well, they're vastly better |
| 01:59.49 | pipeline | freeone3000: But no OpenGL acceleration. |
| 02:00.26 | ruckerz | ugh this is annoying |
| 02:00.30 | ruckerz | i need to rollback |
| 02:00.33 | diazepam | hi guys - I just grabbed an IBM R32 notebook and installed Deb-Testing - everything works fine (including wireless) however some charactor keys have wrong assignments - mainly # and @ symbols are assigned to the bracket keys rather than the 2 and 3 keys. What setting do i need to change to ensure proper association? |
| 02:00.33 | freeone3000 | pipeline: Ah... that would be a problem for me. I kinda need openGL. :) |
| 02:00.41 | freeone3000 | ruckerz: Install a previous version, nvidia offers them. |
| 02:00.51 | freeone3000 | ruckerz: Their installer conviently removes all previous versions. |
| 02:00.53 | pipeline | freeone3000: Then shell out the $30 and buy an ATI card that has public drivers. |
| 02:01.01 | pipeline | freeone3000: Their installer will also completely hose your system. Don't use it. |
| 02:01.01 | freeone3000 | pipeline: Heck no. |
| 02:01.12 | ruckerz | what package can i install to roll back to X11R6 |
| 02:01.19 | freeone3000 | pipeline: Ehm. SURE it will. My system is completly hosed, then. |
| 02:01.19 | pipeline | freeone3000: Err, relative to using legacy drivers, yes :P |
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| 02:01.25 | pipeline | ruckerz: You'll have to use snapshot.debian.net.... |
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| 02:01.33 | pipeline | ruckerz: And in the future, you will have to think about this :\ |
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| 02:01.42 | freeone3000 | pipeline: I also installed lisp using a non-dpkg method! My system is doomedzorz!!! |
| 02:01.54 | maher | ruckerz: why not make a chroot to play with new stuff... |
| 02:01.55 | pipeline | freeone3000: Heh. The nvidia installer screws up package tracking because the proprietary OpenGL libs overwrite all kinds of stuff :\ |
| 02:02.07 | freeone3000 | pipeline: Yeah, I've had that like, twice. |
| 02:02.15 | freeone3000 | pipeline: But it overwrote them so that it's nicer! |
| 02:02.15 | ruckerz | maher: never thought about doing it.. howto? |
| 02:02.35 | yassine | i compiled with orinoco chipset support as an M and i made make modules_install and when lsmod i can not see it anywhere |
| 02:02.41 | yassine | any idea please ? |
| 02:02.44 | pipeline | yassine: Use a debian kernel. |
| 02:03.04 | dvs | yassine: depmod -a |
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| 02:03.16 | maher | ruckerz: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 02:03.24 | yassine | dvs, returns nothing |
| 02:03.29 | liable_ | yassine: did you actually load it? |
| 02:03.51 | yassine | liable, you mean insmod orinoco ? |
| 02:03.58 | dvs | !insmod |
| 02:03.58 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 02:04.20 | liable_ | yassine: yeah, just making sure |
| 02:04.30 | liable_ | !factinfo insmod |
| 02:04.30 | dpkg | insmod -- last modified at Fri Feb 17 02:05:30 2006 by asg!n=asg@cpe-024-074-228-024.carolina.res.rr.com. |
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| 02:05.09 | ruckerz | pipeline: X11R6 is completely gone from unstable? |
| 02:05.18 | pipeline | ruckerz: That is correct. |
| 02:05.25 | yassine | liable, insmod: can't read 'orinoco': No such file or directory |
| 02:05.26 | pipeline | ruckerz: Why would unstable maintain an obsolete piece of software? |
| 02:05.29 | ascii | omg, xorg gave me all x servers. |
| 02:05.31 | freeone3000 | pipeline: So... Where does #include <GL/glu.h> go to? |
| 02:05.33 | scyrma | where is 'glxinfo' in the new xorg packages? (is it still there?) ... packages.debian.org says it is in xbase-clients, but that's clearly not true.. |
| 02:05.38 | ruckerz | hm |
| 02:05.40 | pipeline | ascii: No, it gave you all *drivers* for a single xserver. |
| 02:05.54 | pipeline | ascii: XF86 4.x works differently from 3.x; there aren't separate x servers for different cards :P |
| 02:05.55 | ruckerz | its strange the nv driver doesn't even work |
| 02:06.00 | pipeline | Baloo: I got it to work immediately. |
| 02:06.08 | Baloo | Really? Weird... |
| 02:06.11 | pipeline | ruckerz: The "framebuffer" thing suggests that you're using kernel framebuffer modes or something equally moronic. |
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| 02:06.18 | pipeline | Baloo: You need to unload and reload your nvidia module, you know :P |
| 02:06.27 | liable_ | i couldnt even get it to work and i dont even have a nvidia card :( |
| 02:06.27 | pipeline | Baloo: You also need the newest nvidia-glx from sid... |
| 02:06.41 | Baloo | That's what I thought, and it still bombs. |
| 02:06.49 | pipeline | liable: Heh. I've had "unpleasant" issues with 6.9 and 7.0 on Intel chipsets :\ |
| 02:07.05 | yassine | liable, but when modprob orinoco i get no errors |
| 02:07.09 | freeone3000 | My computer can play it through mesa. :) (Gloat gloat gloat...) |
| 02:07.15 | Baloo | I'm on my laptop, lemme go walk back to ursine and get some output |
| 02:07.16 | gravity | Baloo: I highly recommend fragging a few xorg/nvidia-glx bugs |
| 02:07.17 | ruckerz | pipeline: ahh ok i disabled the framebuffer in config |
| 02:07.19 | ruckerz | works well now |
| 02:07.24 | ruckerz | sucks i can't use opengl |
| 02:07.25 | liable_ | yassine: does it show in lsmod now? |
| 02:07.49 | Baloo | gravity: Maybe when I'm at work and don't have anything else to do..kinda stressed out lately |
| 02:08.03 | freeone3000 | nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756 is missing. Hmm. |
| 02:08.03 | gravity | me too :-) |
| 02:08.13 | Baloo | OK, failed to load module glx becuse it couldn't load module nvidia looks like |
| 02:08.30 | yassine | liable, orinoco 40852 0 |
| 02:08.46 | yassine | and hermes 6656 1 orinoco |
| 02:08.52 | Baloo | pipeline: says nvidia doesn't exist after I rebuilt it |
| 02:09.18 | daeos | how can i check what ftp server is running ? |
| 02:09.18 | pipeline | Baloo: Gah, let me guess, you built your own kernel |
| 02:09.33 | pipeline | ruckerz: Eh. Honestly. Spend the 30$, buy an R2xx ATI chipset. Totally open source drivers. You'll have support forever :P |
| 02:09.33 | liable_ | yassine: well. its loaded. :) |
| 02:09.47 | yassine | but my card is not working :s |
| 02:10.11 | yassine | its on the pcmcia and it should be working and it not |
| 02:10.13 | Baloo | pipeline: s/built my own kernel/apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-1-k7 |
| 02:10.15 | pipeline | yassine: Use a debian kernel. Seriously. *I* don't build my own kernels. Ever. I haven't built a kernel in nearly two years. It's just unnecessary in this day and age. |
| 02:10.17 | liable_ | yassine: does the iface show in ifconfig -a ?? |
| 02:10.28 | pipeline | Baloo: oh ho ho. Hmm. |
| 02:10.41 | pipeline | Baloo: Well, reinstall the module's package, run update-modules, and then see what happens? |
| 02:10.42 | Baloo | pipeline: I agree about building your own kernel... |
| 02:11.00 | Baloo | Aah, update-modules... god, i'm more fried than I thought today |
| 02:11.04 | yassine | liable_, no its not shown there |
| 02:11.48 | freeone3000 | Okay. X server updated. Yay! :) |
| 02:11.53 | liable_ | yassine: then you have problems. I dont know anything about pcmcia though so someone else will have to help with that |
| 02:12.03 | Baloo | pipeline: OK, no difference. |
| 02:12.09 | yassine | pipeline, dont you really think that if the debian kernel supprt my cards that i would not be happy having all this pain ? |
| 02:12.20 | liable_ | no one else had problems with it looking for md5sums that werent there? |
| 02:12.23 | yassine | liable_, merci and thanks you |
| 02:12.26 | pipeline | yassine: Orinoco is in the base debian kernel. |
| 02:12.41 | pipeline | yassine: you probably just didn't have PCMCIA services started. |
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| 02:13.10 | yassine | pipeline, /etc/init.d/pcmcia start |
| 02:13.27 | pipeline | yassine: It has to be started before the module gets loaded. |
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| 02:13.33 | pipeline | yassine: In fact, it should load the module itself. |
| 02:13.35 | pipeline | yassine: On boot. |
| 02:13.53 | Baloo | Heh, the only thing stopping me from running linux on my laptop right now (and I would prefer running Linux) is power management is screwy on the thinkpad a31 on linux |
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| 02:15.53 | daeos | what is the easiest way to find out what ftp server is running? i need to know so i can figure out how to configure it |
| 02:16.45 | ABaer | Hi, can anyone tell my why "tar -cjvf home.tar.bz2 ./home/ --exclude */downloads/*" does not work... tar adds "downloads" to my archive too... |
| 02:16.45 | Baloo | pipeline: What's your uname -r? |
| 02:17.00 | minerale | daeos: ftp localhost 21 ... or ps aux | grep ftp |
| 02:17.11 | Baloo | ABaer: drop /* off the end, I think |
| 02:17.18 | pipeline | Baloo: 2.6.15-1-k7-smp |
| 02:17.32 | Baloo | pipeline: Hmm, maybe 2.6.15 is the answer |
| 02:17.33 | ski | what is proper way to allow other users to open windows on my X display ? .. someone mentioned 'xauth extract - $DISPLAY | sudo -H -u otheruser xauth merge -', but this requires editing '/etc/sudoers' .. what should be added ? (have tried 'myuser ALL = (ALL) PASSWD: /usr/bin/X11/xauth' but it still doesn't ask for password, and is it really very good to allow any 'xauth' action on '~otheruser/.Xauthority' ?) |
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| 02:17.53 | pipeline | ABaer: Uh, doesn't "--exclude" expect a comma-separated list or something? |
| 02:18.00 | Baloo | Oh, wait... crap... 2.6.15 has broken firewire support... |
| 02:18.17 | pipeline | ski: There is no proper way. xauth is utter, complete shit. Just use xhost and have done with it. You will never make xauth work properly. |
| 02:18.20 | ABaer | Baloo: that does not work too :( |
| 02:18.45 | yassine | pipeline, im wondering if there is a way now juts to know if my card is beeing reconized from the system when lspci i only get this : http://pastebin.com/658929 |
| 02:19.00 | ABaer | pipeline: but i have only one string to exclude... how should i comma-separate? |
| 02:19.04 | ski | pipeline : hm, how would i use 'xhost' to do this ? |
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| 02:19.18 | pipeline | ski: "xhost +" will allow absolutely anyone to connect to your display. |
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| 02:19.43 | pipeline | ski: xauth is heinously broken, makes no fucking sense, and, to add insult to injury, isn't really documented. Never has been. And it never really worked. |
| 02:19.54 | Baloo | pipeline: Any sane way to back out of the 7.0 trap? |
| 02:19.57 | pipeline | ski: I have never in my life seen someone use xauth successfully. And I've been in this for a pretty good chunk of time. |
| 02:20.15 | pipeline | Baloo: Not really. Have you tried rmmod and re-modprobe-ing it? Have you upgraded nvidia-glx? |
| 02:20.21 | ski | pipeline : hm, i somehow though 'xhost' was just for allowing connections from other compters .. |
| 02:20.22 | pipeline | Baloo: I mean, you're going to have to face the music sooner or later, you know? |
| 02:20.22 | ABaer | downloads is mounted via samba, could this be a problem for tar? |
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| 02:20.33 | Baloo | pipeline: Yes. |
| 02:20.44 | pipeline | ski: Well, it is, but xhost + will allow *anyone*, including folks on localhost, if they use TCP sockets, I think. |
| 02:21.04 | ski | pipeline : ok .. i assume one can restrict access to just localhost (i'll rtfm :) |
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| 02:21.22 | pipeline | ski: well, you could xhost +localhost or xhost +127.0.0.1 |
| 02:21.34 | pipeline | ski: but X "security" is really a joke in general :P |
| 02:21.34 | ascii | xhost +<hostname> |
| 02:21.46 | ski | k, ty |
| 02:21.50 | litage | my cdrom is listed as /dev/hdc in fstab, but /dev/hd* doesn't exist on my system. how can i determine which device is my cdrom? (running sarge testing with 2.6.15-1-686-smp) |
| 02:21.57 | Baloo | I installed nvidia-glx from nvidia.com since iirc nvidia-glx has a dependency against some older 2.6 kernel with buggy external media support... |
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| 02:22.11 | dvs | litage: udev? |
| 02:22.45 | litage | dvs: what about udev? |
| 02:22.51 | solid_liq | anyone know what tools I need to develop applications for the Treo 650? |
| 02:22.54 | dvs | litage: are you running it? |
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| 02:24.15 | ski | pipeline : hrm .. 'Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server' still, even after 'xhost +localhost' .. any idea ? |
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| 02:24.54 | litage | dvs: pretty sure...v0.087-2 is installed |
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| 02:25.09 | dvs | litage: modprobe ide-cd |
| 02:25.16 | itrebal | i'm trying to install the NVidia drivers, and to do so i rebooted into Recovery Mode, which gave a fit or two, but i got that sorted out, and then it started looking for the kernel source, so i did apt-get install kernel-2.6.8.... and then re-ran it, and it still can't find the source, any ideas? |
| 02:25.20 | pipeline | ski: the hvariable :0.0 makes it use a UNIX socket |
| 02:25.25 | pipeline | ski: So you're not connecting from localhost |
| 02:25.33 | pipeline | ski: You're connecting from... : :P |
| 02:25.52 | pipeline | ski: try setting DISPLAY to "127.0.0.1:0" |
| 02:26.00 | pipeline | ski: That should force it to use a TCP socket |
| 02:26.27 | yassine | while trying to restart pcmcia i get prompted that i should use pcmuciautils instead since im using udev ( im worndering it this is related to my wireless card issue ) |
| 02:26.32 | litage | dvs: lsmod already lists it: ide_cd 37092 0 |
| 02:26.37 | ski | pipeline : ok, will try |
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| 02:27.06 | sfullenwider | is the onboard ethernet bug in the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 fixed in the latest debian-AMD64 installation image? |
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| 02:28.41 | leaveone | is there a flash player 8 for linux? |
| 02:28.49 | ski | pipeline : 'xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0' |
| 02:29.02 | pipeline | ski: tried 127.0.0.1:0.0 ? |
| 02:29.03 | itrebal | ny ideas on installing nvidia drivers? anyone run into this before? what to do to fix it? |
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| 02:29.14 | pipeline | ski: Or localhost:0? or localhost:0.0? |
| 02:29.24 | pipeline | ski: Seriously, X security is this fucking stupid. Nature of the beast :\ |
| 02:29.32 | ski | pipeline : those didn't work, either (haven't tried last, yet) |
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| 02:30.30 | ski | pipeline : do you think the desktop environment could complicate things (have gnome with multiple desktops) ? |
| 02:30.50 | pipeline | ski: No. |
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| 02:32.25 | cello_rasp | something weird: deb stable gnome system monitor reports disk usage at 277.5/293.4 Gb. This drive is in fact at 99% capacity (292.4), something reported correctly by another machine mounting the drive via smbfs. What happened here?? |
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| 02:32.58 | liable_ | cello_rasp: logs gone mad? |
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| 02:35.23 | Klohunt | Does anyone know how to install Gnome from within Aptitude? |
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| 02:36.04 | liable_ | aptitude install gnome ?? |
| 02:36.11 | Klohunt | Eulex: That newest kernel fixed my ethernet problem by the way :D |
| 02:36.50 | dvs | Klohunt: newest meaning.... |
| 02:36.52 | dvs | ? |
| 02:37.06 | Klohunt | 2.6.15 |
| 02:37.18 | dvs | 2.6.8 didn't work? |
| 02:37.22 | Klohunt | dvs: as opposed to 2.6.8 |
| 02:37.25 | Klohunt | dvs: nope |
| 02:37.37 | dvs | oh well... as long as it works. |
| 02:37.49 | Klohunt | dvs: yep :D Thanks btw |
| 02:37.57 | dvs | yw |
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| 02:42.50 | itrebal | anyone have ideas as to hwo to get nvidia drivers installed? i've gotten kernel-source-2.6.8 and kernel-tree-2.6.8 and its still complaining about them not being there |
| 02:43.17 | unstable | How can I see my cpu temperature? |
| 02:43.18 | pilgrim | What's the best way to chroot apache2 in debian? |
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| 02:44.05 | cello_rasp | ok, the disk discrepancy isn't a gnome issue. i just did a stat for disk uasge, and apparently there are 15 nonexistant bytes free on the device. what the hey?? |
| 02:44.26 | cello_rasp | *gigabytes* that is |
| 02:44.53 | itrebal | how can i actually stop X and GDM from respawning? |
| 02:45.02 | itrebal | (until i reboot again) |
| 02:45.28 | liable_ | itrebal: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 02:46.00 | itrebal | thanks |
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| 02:47.15 | tuv | esd is a shame on the opensource community, debian, and espeically gnome!! :| |
| 02:47.46 | tuv | not a single time i installed debian and did not have a problem with esd |
| 02:47.52 | zinx | really |
| 02:47.54 | mhall | tuv: same can be said for arts and kde but let's not soapbox and be overdramatic |
| 02:47.58 | zinx | not a single time have i installed esd when i installed debian |
| 02:48.00 | zinx | :D |
| 02:48.14 | mhall | tuv: the sound server is trying to cover up for bad hardware and drivers, which is not easy to do |
| 02:48.23 | tuv | mhall, i'm a gnome-only user, so i'm not promoting the competition |
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| 02:48.49 | Shin-Chan | morning |
| 02:49.33 | Shin-Chan | i just installed debian and it's booting with error message "I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). bla bla bla |
| 02:49.43 | Shin-Chan | i'm from asia ^^ |
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| 02:50.19 | Shin-Chan | anyone can help? :( |
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| 02:50.58 | cello_rasp | get this man some xfree86 conguration help stat. (it's been too long since i messed around with that, i am afraid) |
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| 02:51.15 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: you need to reconfigure x with the correct options. what version of debian did you install? |
| 02:51.36 | Shin-Chan | the one currently show up for download at debian website |
| 02:51.42 | Shin-Chan | wait let me get the actual version |
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| 02:52.38 | itrebal | so i'm trying to install the NVidia drivers, like i've said multiple times, and its still complaining that it cannot find the kernel source, my kernel is 2.6.8-2-286, and i've done apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 and apt-get isntall kernel-tree-2.6.8, running the installer again it still doesnt find it, i then try passing the kernel source path, and i pointed it to /usr/include/linux/kernel.h and it still complains |
| 02:52.42 | itrebal | any further ideas? |
| 02:52.53 | tuv | i installed etch today on a laptop and enjoyed d-i beta2 until esd !#%^$^#@ my mood.. it never worked correctly.. either it hangs the desktop until it's killed or it keeps completely silent while denying alsa access to devices |
| 02:53.17 | Shin-Chan | ok... i downloaded the netinstall last night and have it installed overnight |
| 02:53.28 | Shin-Chan | on the stable version |
| 02:53.36 | cello_rasp | tuv: parhaps the *beta* passed bad parametsrs to esh? |
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| 02:53.46 | tienchi | hi, i'd like to sychronize clock with internet server, but it says NTP support is not running, how to start NTP support? |
| 02:53.53 | Shin-Chan | by the way, how can i access the GDM setup ? |
| 02:54.02 | tuv | cello_rasp, i used all possible permutations on the /etc/esound/esd.conf |
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| 02:54.36 | cello_rasp | shin-chan: gnome > system > administration > login screen setup :) |
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| 02:54.54 | Shin-Chan | err i got problem to start the x server or something like that |
| 02:55.02 | tuv | what i can't understand is why libesd0 is the one installed by default and not libesd-alsa0... |
| 02:55.12 | pipeline | tienchi: You probably don't want to use NTP. |
| 02:55.13 | Shin-Chan | it only shows a blackscreen to ask me for login |
| 02:55.18 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: type this at the terminal grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 02:55.23 | pipeline | tienchi: A far wiser path is to install the "ntpdate" utility, which will update the clock all in one go. |
| 02:55.27 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: log in as root first |
| 02:55.40 | itrebal | any ideas for my issue :/? |
| 02:55.47 | pipeline | tienchi: ntp, the protocol, just keeps the clock from drifting. It's for high-precision time, not knowing what time it is. |
| 02:55.53 | xenolith | how do you activate the force-loopbreak option? I'm installing x11-common and apt-get needs to remove e2fsprogs temporarilly... |
| 02:56.06 | pipeline | tienchi: ntpdate will run on boot to update your clock to the correct time *right now* rather than correcting it ilttle by little over the next couple of weeks |
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| 02:56.36 | Shin-Chan | liable_> which one should i give to u ? |
| 02:56.57 | Shin-Chan | (II) Loading extension MIT-Screen-Saver |
| 02:57.04 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: whats the general error? screen, memory mouse? |
| 02:57.10 | gravity | That's no error |
| 02:57.21 | Shin-Chan | (EE) xf860penSerial cannot open device |
| 02:57.37 | tuv | isn't there any esd-replacement project? |
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| 02:57.43 | Shin-Chan | (EE) configured mouse: cannot open input device |
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| 02:57.52 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: what kind of mouse do you have? |
| 02:58.00 | tienchi | pipeline, so i can install ntpdate from apt-get?? |
| 02:58.02 | Shin-Chan | (EE) PreInit failed for input device "configured mouse" |
| 02:58.06 | pilgrim | I'm trying to run apache2 in chroot environment, I did everything (followed linux.com guide) but this command "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" fails with this error "Starting web server: Apache2/usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/usr/sbin/apache2ctl': No such file or directory" I checked for /usr/sbin/apache2ctl and it does exist. So does /chroot/httpd/usr/sbin/apache2ctl. Can someone please help? |
| 02:58.06 | pipeline | tienchi: yes |
| 02:58.14 | Shin-Chan | i'm using a USB optical mouse |
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| 02:58.17 | pipeline | Shin-Chan: X -allowMouseOpenFail |
| 02:58.21 | Shin-Chan | and i have touch pad on this laptop |
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| 02:59.19 | harpiain | hi, guys! I'm using a Debian linux as a guest at VMware windows host! Do you know how could I use my cdrw device? |
| 02:59.20 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:59.20 | tienchi | pipeline, installing :D |
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| 02:59.39 | pipeline | tienchi: just run the /etc/init.d/ntpdate script yourself the first time in order to update it immediately :P |
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| 02:59.56 | pipeline | tienchi: NTP is useful when you have a huge pool of servers accessing the same files, so your timestamps don't get fucked up. For ordinary stuff, ntpdate is the way to go. |
| 02:59.58 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: pick /dev/input/mice for the device, and Explorer/ps2 for protocol |
| 03:00.11 | Shin-Chan | i typed X -allowMouseOpenFail then it comes out a gray screen with a cursor |
| 03:00.19 | Shin-Chan | >_< what do i do ? |
| 03:00.28 | tuv | i though ntpdate is an ntp client! |
| 03:00.41 | pmiller9 | one of my of boxes, kernel-package pauses before executing make commands... does anyone know why? how can I fix this problem? |
| 03:01.29 | liable_ | gravity: has anyone else mentioned xorg md5sums in the wrong place for xserver-xorg? |
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| 03:01.49 | tienchi | pipeline, :D, thanks, installed alreaday. |
| 03:01.56 | gravity | liable_: Yeah, I have yet to fix that bug |
| 03:01.57 | gravity | But I know about it |
| 03:02.11 | liable_ | gravity: sweet |
| 03:02.21 | gravity | Thanks for the reminder though, I'd almost forgotten about it |
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| 03:04.05 | Klohunt | After running aptitude install gnome, do I have to do anything to make it boot Gnome on startup? |
| 03:04.10 | Baloo | pipeline: where does x.org 7 look for drivers? /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers? |
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| 03:04.32 | Shin-Chan | liable_> it says dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 03:04.41 | liable_ | Klohunt: probably best to install gdm for a graphical login |
| 03:04.57 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: whats the full command you typed? |
| 03:05.14 | Klohunt | liable: ok, will do |
| 03:05.25 | Shin-Chan | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:05.57 | litage | my cdrom is listed as /dev/hdc in fstab, but /dev/hd* doesn't exist on my system. how can i determine which device is my cdrom? (running sarge testing with 2.6.15-1-686-smp and udev 0.087-2) |
| 03:06.04 | liable_ | Shin-Chan: are you logged in as root? |
| 03:06.05 | tienchi | pipeline, why can i run the /etc/init.d/netpdate script??? i use command: ./etc/init.d/ntpdate |
| 03:06.20 | tienchi | pipeline, cannot* |
| 03:06.27 | pipeline | tienchi: You have to be root, and you have to pass it an argument (e.g. start) |
| 03:06.29 | Shin-Chan | hmm how do u mean by root ? |
| 03:06.42 | Shin-Chan | it only asked for logins... and i only remember i had one login name ? |
| 03:07.24 | tienchi | pipeline, :D, got it. thanks a lot |
| 03:07.27 | Shin-Chan | oh wait... i got it working now i guess |
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| 03:08.34 | gravity | liable_: I'm having trouble finding the bug with that error actually. Do you have the error handy? |
| 03:09.24 | beered | OMG... etch will be released in december! |
| 03:09.31 | Klohunt | Oops.. |
| 03:09.36 | liable_ | gravity: yeah, i couldnt find a bug either, bit it looks in /usr/lib/X11 but the md5sums are in /xfree (i think thats the right path) |
| 03:09.51 | liable_ | gravity: I made a link and it installed ok after that |
| 03:10.03 | gravity | liable_: Yeah, ok. I think I found that one. Ok, I'll have the package move that md5sum over |
| 03:10.04 | dli | recommend an image editing tool? not as heavy as gimp |
| 03:10.09 | Klohunt | How can I get to that dialog in the debian installation that asks me if I want to install a Desktop Enviornment, file server, mail server, SQL database or manual? |
| 03:10.11 | liable_ | for X as well |
| 03:10.11 | gravity | liable_: Thanks again |
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| 03:10.16 | liable_ | gravity: yw |
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| 03:10.45 | liable_ | go! :) |
| 03:10.46 | dli | Klohunt, do you mean "tasksel" ? |
| 03:11.07 | GaiaX11 | Why is that every time I want to Debian login I have to reboot nearly three times because in the process boot the machine halts and says that it is not syncing? |
| 03:11.49 | GaiaX11 | And then it gives me lots of extrange codes. |
| 03:11.50 | Klohunt | dli: thanks alot |
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| 03:12.25 | Celt | Question: I'm installing the most recent testing release, but the box I'm installing it on doesn't have net access. I've tried a few things to make it read the CD set, and searched the net for a while, and only found that doing this is "difficult" :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 03:12.42 | Wyzard | gravity: Out of curiosity, why does xserver-xorg depend on discover1? |
| 03:13.01 | pipeline | Celt: All you need is the "netinst" disc. It has a complete base debian system. Once you hahve a base debian, *then* you can worry about loading other packages off of other CDs. |
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| 03:13.22 | gravity | Wyzard: To allow automatic configs. I need to make it a recommends |
| 03:13.28 | gravity | I also need to make it | discover |
| 03:13.41 | jai15 | hi |
| 03:13.45 | Wyzard | gravity: It used to be a recommends... and yeah, I don't understand why anyone uses discover1 when there's discover (which appears to be v2) |
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| 03:14.07 | Wyzard | gravity: but I thought discover was deprecated in favor of udev/hotplug anyway |
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| 03:14.21 | Celt | pipeline: Ah okay, thanks. Then I just add my cd mount point to /etc/apt/sources.list or something? |
| 03:14.22 | gravity | Wyzard: hotplug can't do what the Xserver scripts need it to do |
| 03:14.26 | gravity | Wyzard: We have to use discover currently |
| 03:14.29 | Wyzard | ah |
| 03:14.41 | gravity | Although my goal in the not so distant future is to kill discover and just let the server handle it dynamically |
| 03:14.52 | gravity | I was hoping to get that done in time for etch's release but there's no way |
| 03:14.55 | Wyzard | gravity: Well, it's not really any harm having it installed... I was just curious why it had changed from a Recommends to a Depends |
| 03:14.55 | pipeline | Celt: There's a utility that will add CDs to sources.list for you, but I don't remember what it is. |
| 03:15.05 | pipeline | Celt: The netinst cd doesn't have any useful packages on it, though. It has the base and nothing else. |
| 03:15.06 | gravity | Wyzard: Holdover from the ubuntu import |
| 03:15.12 | Wyzard | ah |
| 03:15.25 | Celt | pipeline: Awesome, thanks for the info |
| 03:15.26 | pipeline | Celt: What I would do is use the apt-mirror script to get an entire package tree on a hard drive, get the netinst disc for the initial installation, and, well, there you have it. |
| 03:15.41 | itrebal | o |
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| 03:16.51 | Klohunt | hmm |
| 03:16.54 | Kevin` | how do I get the configuration for the debian kernel i'm using? |
| 03:16.59 | Klohunt | can I install the X server with aptitude? |
| 03:17.06 | beered | is it possible to apt-get oo2.2? |
| 03:17.16 | beered | open office that is |
| 03:17.23 | gravity | Klohunt: Sure |
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| 03:17.36 | Klohunt | gravity: is it called simply x? |
| 03:17.42 | gravity | Klohunt: x-window-system |
| 03:17.44 | damog | Any idea on why my XkbLayout applying accents stopped working on x terminal emulators but not on gtk or the like apps? |
| 03:17.45 | Baloo | I wish I could figure out why nvidia 1.0-8756 doesn't want to work on linux 2.6.16 on x.org 7.0 |
| 03:17.45 | liable_ | Klohunt: you do realise you can use aptitude from the command line, just like apt-get? |
| 03:17.47 | damog | gravity: any idea? :) |
| 03:17.55 | Klohunt | liable_: yep |
| 03:18.05 | gravity | damog: Install xkb-data and possibly update your paths (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do it) |
| 03:18.07 | Klohunt | ok I see. |
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| 03:18.47 | Baloo | Just keeps bombing saying nvidia doesn't exist even though it does. I've rebuilt the modules , did update-modules, rmmod/modprobe the module, etc...always says nvidia doesn't exist |
| 03:19.06 | floppyears | hi |
| 03:19.10 | Baloo | kernel module inserts cleanly, but x says it doesn't exist. |
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| 03:19.20 | floppyears | how can I check if a file has been touched and when was its creation date ? |
| 03:19.57 | dondelelcaro | floppyears: stat |
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| 03:22.25 | unstable | !tell floppyears about tripwire |
| 03:22.43 | floppyears | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 03:23.45 | Baloo | AAAAhhh!! I figured it out... gotta do a mv /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers |
| 03:24.15 | Baloo | well, that's three hours of my life I'll never get back. |
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| 03:25.23 | floppyears | dondelelcaro: is there a way in which I can erase those records created by stat ? |
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| 03:25.45 | dererk | Hi all! |
| 03:26.27 | dondelelcaro | floppyears: eh? |
| 03:26.30 | dererk | I run out of space on my /usr partition and I tried to mount a shared nfs directory in that mountpoint instead |
| 03:26.41 | dondelelcaro | floppyears: stat doesn't create anything. It reads what the filesystem says. |
| 03:26.54 | floppyears | dondelelcaro: is there a way to erase what the filesystem says ? |
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| 03:27.42 | tiCo89 | can somebody explain me the lintian warnings in http://www.marioiseli.com/dpkgs/UploadQueue/emelfm2* |
| 03:27.44 | dererk | The problem is that I can't get the executable files be executed (of course they have permissions to) |
| 03:28.38 | dererk | I add "exec" to nfs partition too |
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| 03:28.55 | dererk | I add "exec" to nfs partition on fstab* too |
| 03:29.00 | dererk | But got the same error |
| 03:29.09 | dererk | Any good Samaritan? |
| 03:29.30 | damog | gravity: Didn't work. the thing here is: I have an special xkb layout, named us_laintl, I use it to be able to accent vowels using something like 'include "level3(rwin_switch)"', so I can use Apple key + ' + vowel to get an accented vowel or inverted question/exclamation mark. The layout is still working on gtk apps and the like, but refuse to do it on gnome-terminal or xterm. |
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| 03:29.35 | Klohunt | For some reason when I boot it says: X fatal server error: No screens found |
| 03:29.53 | gravity | damog: Hrm, I don't know then |
| 03:30.10 | gravity | Klohunt: Post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log in a pastebin please |
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| 03:30.36 | Klohunt | gravity: unfortunately I cant :( |
| 03:30.51 | unstable | Klohunt: Use elinks |
| 03:30.52 | gravity | Klohunt: Well, look in the log then for errors. They start with (EE) |
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| 03:31.05 | unstable | Klohunt: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE |
| 03:31.30 | damog | gravity: That's a mistery :) |
| 03:31.58 | gravity | heh |
| 03:34.21 | Klohunt | unstable: (EE): (No devices detected) |
| 03:34.22 | dererk | (please :-\ ) |
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| 03:34.46 | pilgrim | Why can't I chroot with the command "/usr/sbin/chroot ." I get this error: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 03:35.24 | damog | gravity: I think they have the same problem at #362408 |
| 03:35.33 | dererk | pilgrim, maybe you don't have a bash file in the path being chrooted |
| 03:35.47 | dererk | s/a/the/ |
| 03:35.53 | pilgrim | dererk, no maybe about it, I don't have one, is it a must? |
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| 03:36.09 | dererk | pilgrim, to do what? |
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| 03:36.29 | dererk | Please, anyone who can give me a hand? |
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| 03:36.33 | pilgrim | dererk, to chroot to that directory (say /chroot) even if there is not /chroot/bin/bash? |
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| 03:37.13 | dererk | pilgrim, what I meant if you want to chroot an app, for example |
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| 03:37.42 | Klohunt | where is xfree86's conf file? |
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| 03:38.26 | dererk | Klohunt, /etc/X11 |
| 03:38.37 | squeaks | hey, how can i remap my keyboard to dvorak, google isn't helping? |
| 03:38.51 | Shin-Chan2 | how can i setup a linksys wireless card in debian ? |
| 03:39.03 | dererk | squeaks, dpkg-reconfigure console-data, for TTy.. |
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| 03:39.19 | dererk | Shin-Chan, start looking for driver support |
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| 03:40.01 | pilgrim | dererk, well, I want to chroot an app (apache2) but I get this error: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/usr/sbin/apache2ctl': No such file or directory |
| 03:40.04 | Shin-Chan2 | what kind of driver support do i need? just download the linksys driver .inf file? |
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| 03:40.08 | Kevin` | "linksys" doesn't mean much, linksys uses many different chipsets in their cards |
| 03:40.13 | GaiaX11 | Klohunt, Go straight to the point: # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and try some videos setups and you will get there! |
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| 03:40.33 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 what does lspci say the card is |
| 03:40.35 | dererk | pilgrim, you have to copy all file shown by "ldd /path/of/the/binary" buddy |
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| 03:40.48 | Shin-Chan2 | err where can i find out about that ? |
| 03:40.53 | dererk | Shin-Chan, ¬¬ .inf ??? |
| 03:40.57 | pilgrim | dererk, I did :'( |
| 03:41.08 | dererk | Oh, you want it for ndiswrapper, right, Shin-Chan ? |
| 03:41.09 | Kevin` | 'lspci', command |
| 03:41.19 | Shin-Chan2 | yes |
| 03:41.30 | Shin-Chan2 | but currently i'm still finding the ndiswrapper thing |
| 03:41.31 | Klohunt | GaiaX11: thanks |
| 03:41.34 | Kevin` | you should always check if there's a native driver for the card first :/ |
| 03:41.48 | Shin-Chan2 | cuz i'm new to linux and only used ndiswrapper once in knoppix mode |
| 03:41.54 | dererk | Please, I'm in a hurry pals! Does anyone know how to solve my problem? :-( |
| 03:42.09 | pe-de-moleque | "2015, #debian : How i config X? It's just issue comand dpkg-reconfigure and ls and copy and move, and download, and install and you got it!" |
| 03:42.57 | gravity | pe-de-moleque: Patches happily accepted |
| 03:43.29 | dererk | jugglinx, que mal la estoy pasando :'( |
| 03:43.32 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 ? |
| 03:43.41 | Shin-Chan2 | yes ? |
| 03:43.49 | Kevin` | what chipset is the wireless card |
| 03:43.59 | GaiaX11 | pe-de-moleque, # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:44.33 | pe-de-moleque | Maybe in 2017 if i had time and will to learn :-) |
| 03:44.45 | Shin-Chan2 | where can i find out ? lspci doesnt even show the details |
| 03:44.56 | Shin-Chan2 | ahh wait found it |
| 03:45.00 | Kevin` | I only want the name lspci shows |
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| 03:45.22 | Shin-Chan2 | Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 |
| 03:45.32 | GaiaX11 | pe-de-moleque, are you a Portuguese speaker? |
| 03:45.34 | Kevin` | heh, ouch |
| 03:45.46 | Kevin` | ndiswrapper works nicely for that, though, I have one |
| 03:45.47 | Shin-Chan2 | Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wlan controller |
| 03:45.56 | pe-de-moleque | yes |
| 03:46.04 | Shin-Chan2 | where's the ndiswrapper in debian? |
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| 03:46.29 | GaiaX11 | So. Go to #debian-br and you will find better help. |
| 03:46.38 | Kevin` | apt-get install ndiswrapper-modules-yourkernel ndiswrapper-utils |
| 03:46.40 | Kevin` | most likely |
| 03:47.14 | Covener | Shin-Chan2: ndiswrapper is available via module-assistant |
| 03:47.32 | Shin-Chan2 | i'm totally new to debian/linux and doesnt really know how it works |
| 03:47.40 | Shin-Chan2 | actually i'm just trying to learn it |
| 03:47.52 | Kevin` | I used ndiswrapper from source on the ndiswrapper site, personally |
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| 03:48.33 | dererk | I assume nobody knows how to solve my problem :-\ |
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| 03:49.01 | agtturnip | hello |
| 03:49.25 | Shin-Chan2 | so i go to applications > system tools >Terminal ? |
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| 03:49.34 | Shin-Chan2 | after that how do i use this ndiswrapper ? |
| 03:49.45 | agtturnip | I've been trying to install debian on my computer for the past 3 days and it isnt working, any suggestions?(im kinda new at this) |
| 03:49.54 | Kevin` | ndiswrapper -i driver.inf |
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| 03:49.57 | dererk | Kevin` |
| 03:49.58 | Kevin` | when it's installed.. |
| 03:49.59 | dererk | I run out of space on my /usr partition and I tried to mount a shared nfs directory in that mountpoint instead |
| 03:50.06 | dererk | The problem is that I can't get the executable files be executed (of course they have permissions to) |
| 03:50.18 | dererk | I add "exec" to nfs partition on fstab* too, but got the same error |
| 03:50.42 | Kevin` | i've never had that problem |
| 03:50.58 | dererk | Kevin`, but do you have any idea how to solve it? |
| 03:50.59 | Shin-Chan2 | it says ndiswrapper:command not found >_< |
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| 03:51.14 | Kevin` | are they the proper binaries for that system? |
| 03:51.18 | dererk | Shin-Chan2, running it as root? |
| 03:51.27 | shogunx | dererk what are the /etc/exports options for the export on the nfs server |
| 03:51.32 | dererk | Kevin`, ? |
| 03:51.46 | dererk | shogunx, just "rw,async" |
| 03:51.59 | Kevin` | dererk if you tried to mount the /usr from a different system I could see problems happening |
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| 03:52.23 | dererk | Kevin`, I've seen that several times before |
| 03:52.32 | agtturnip | when i start up my computer, after it trys to boot from cd, and fails because there is no cd in, a whole bunch of 8s and 0s endlessly appear on my screen untill i shut it off, currently im using knoppix to troubleshoot |
| 03:52.33 | dererk | Kevin`, I think I missing something |
| 03:52.35 | Shin-Chan2 | oh god.. how do this work :( |
| 03:52.35 | Kevin` | rw,async,no_root_squash you might try |
| 03:52.57 | Halitherses | where can i get some free webhosting? 100MB? |
| 03:53.47 | Kevin` | I could give you that if it's for a useful cause |
| 03:53.56 | dererk | Halitherses, at a friend's house? |
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| 03:54.25 | dererk | Kevin`, how a good soul :) |
| 03:54.36 | dererk | s/how/what/ |
| 03:54.36 | simonrvn | Halitherses: 127.0.0.1 is really free |
| 03:54.42 | Halitherses | my isp blocks web servers, the bastards |
| 03:54.44 | dererk | simonrvn, hahahaha |
| 03:54.49 | agtturnip | does anyone know how to help me, I deleted windows and knoppix goes to slow for me, |
| 03:54.54 | Shin-Chan2 | dererk, how do i run as root ? |
| 03:55.06 | Halitherses | su |
| 03:55.14 | dererk | Shin-Chan2, sudo command or just go for a "su -" |
| 03:55.15 | Kevin` | su - |
| 03:55.18 | Kevin` | so path gets set |
| 03:55.22 | Halitherses | then type the root password |
| 03:55.28 | dererk | Kevin`, no, that didn't solve it |
| 03:55.36 | solid_liq | anyone know what tools I need to develop applications for the Treo 650? |
| 03:55.37 | unstable | http://digg.com/technology/AOL_blocks_DearAol.com_emails |
| 03:55.47 | solid_liq | (under linux of course :) |
| 03:56.09 | solid_liq | I've been googling for that info and can't find anything |
| 03:56.17 | vladuz976 | anybody here using hurd? |
| 03:56.32 | dererk | solid_liq, Hammer, maybe |
| 03:56.33 | agtturnip | hello |
| 03:56.57 | Shin-Chan2 | ok i'm at the root... then ? |
| 03:57.02 | dererk | (I didn't use it, don't know if it's for lin) |
| 03:57.17 | dererk | shogunx, any idea, please? |
| 03:57.47 | Kevin` | Halitherses if you want hosting, the owner of a dedicated server I.. use is currently on irc.. if you talk to him nicely.. |
| 03:57.50 | simonrvn | Halitherses: too bad. change ISP? :) |
| 03:57.54 | agtturnip | HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!! |
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| 03:58.06 | arkygeek | hi all |
| 03:58.10 | Shin-Chan2 | ok even after i run it as root.. it still says command not found |
| 03:58.10 | gravity | agtturnip: That's not the best way to get help... |
| 03:58.15 | simonrvn | agtturnip: don't demand, it turns people off |
| 03:58.16 | arkygeek | i keep losing my swap partition |
| 03:58.19 | agtturnip | im so confused |
| 03:58.21 | gravity | agtturnip: Actually telling us your problem might get your further |
| 03:58.26 | agtturnip | ok |
| 03:58.30 | solid_liq | dererk: what, you don't like the treo? |
| 03:58.33 | arkygeek | how do i mount my swap partition hda5 |
| 03:58.41 | agtturnip | so, i deleted windows thinking that debian would be great |
| 03:58.46 | simonrvn | arkygeek: you don't. you use swapon |
| 03:58.55 | arkygeek | mount /dev/hda5 gives me mount point none does not exist |
| 03:59.06 | arkygeek | simonrvn: i tried that - not mounted |
| 03:59.07 | dererk | solid_liq, I would If you give me yours... :P |
| 03:59.08 | simonrvn | arkygeek: man mount; man swapon |
| 03:59.13 | arkygeek | but its in my fstab |
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| 03:59.18 | simonrvn | it's not supposed to be mounted |
| 03:59.20 | Shin-Chan2 | dererk, after i run it as root.. it still says command not found |
| 03:59.21 | agtturnip | and when i install it, (and it tells me its installed) it breaks when it trys to boot |
| 03:59.24 | solid_liq | dererk: :D |
| 03:59.30 | simonrvn | arkygeek: it's not supposed to be mounted |
| 03:59.32 | dererk | simonrvn, please, do you know how could I solve my problem with nfs and local execution? |
| 03:59.48 | simonrvn | dererk: line it up against a wall and shoot? |
| 03:59.54 | dererk | Shin-Chan2, maybe it's now installed |
| 03:59.55 | arkygeek | swapon -a give invalid argument |
| 04:00.03 | dererk | Shin-Chan2, dpkg -l |grep -i ndiswrapper |
| 04:00.16 | arkygeek | unable to find swap space signature |
| 04:00.24 | simonrvn | dererk: i don't know what your problem is |
| 04:00.33 | simonrvn | arkygeek: then it isn't a swap partition, is it |
| 04:00.40 | dererk | I run out of space on my /usr partition and I tried to mount a shared nfs directory in that mountpoint instead |
| 04:00.44 | dererk | The problem is that I can't get the executable files be executed (of course they have permissions to) |
| 04:00.53 | dererk | I add "exec" to nfs partition on fstab* too, but got the same error |
| 04:01.00 | arkygeek | in fact it is. and i just redid it with cfdisk (logical type 82) to make sure |
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| 04:01.19 | dererk | simonrvn, do you know? |
| 04:01.20 | simonrvn | dererk: is it the same arch? what's mount show for /usr? |
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| 04:01.23 | arkygeek | simonrvn: so isnt that odd? i dont know why it doees |
| 04:01.35 | simonrvn | are you sure? |
| 04:01.43 | simonrvn | the tools seem to disagree |
| 04:01.44 | arkygeek | simonrvn: yes, of course. |
| 04:01.48 | Shin-Chan2 | dererk > what do i do after the "dpkg -l |grep -i ndiswrapper" |
| 04:01.59 | agtturnip | i just dont understand what im doing wrong, i follow the instructions right, hds are partitioned the right way, the kernel supposedly is installed, yet when i boot up, i see no kde inviorment |
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| 04:02.11 | dererk | simonrvn, The only problem Is that I can't execute files on "bin" directory |
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| 04:02.27 | arkygeek | simonrvn: i even deleted the swap partition then wrote changes, then put it back. same effect |
| 04:02.43 | simonrvn | try swapon /dev/partition |
| 04:02.53 | arkygeek | k |
| 04:02.55 | dererk | simonrvn, and, of course, the have permission to |
| 04:03.18 | simonrvn | could you do what i asked, please? |
| 04:03.23 | simonrvn | dererk: ^^ |
| 04:03.37 | arkygeek | same thing |
| 04:03.44 | dererk | simonrvn, which one? |
| 04:03.52 | simonrvn | dererk: is it the same arch? what's mount show for /usr? |
| 04:03.58 | agtturnip | do you have any advice for me gravity, anything i should look for? |
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| 04:04.16 | simonrvn | if you can't answer my questions, i can't help you |
| 04:04.26 | agtturnip | me? |
| 04:04.34 | dererk | simonrvn, I don't know what you mean with "arch" |
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| 04:04.57 | dererk | simonrvn, The whole directory can't be executed |
| 04:05.01 | unstable | dererk: What type of cpu is it? |
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| 04:05.08 | gravity | agtturnip: What's the error you're getting? |
| 04:05.15 | dererk | unstable, ??????? |
| 04:05.21 | dererk | unstable, I don't get it |
| 04:05.26 | Shin-Chan2 | can someone please teach me how to install ndiswrapper ? |
| 04:05.36 | chillvnc | anyone getting any error with debconf missing dialog.pm ? |
| 04:05.37 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: apt-get install ndiswrapper? |
| 04:05.56 | agtturnip | umm... well there isnt really an error, but a bunch of 8s and 0s keep on appearing on my screen after the computer trys to boot from the hd |
| 04:05.56 | simonrvn | dererk: what does uname -m say for the machine you're mounting /usr from, and what does it say for the machine you've mounted /usr to? |
| 04:05.57 | dererk | unstable, A regular x86 one... don't understand you |
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| 04:06.34 | dererk | Ohhh |
| 04:06.38 | dererk | Now I get it |
| 04:06.43 | Shin-Chan2 | unstable, it says couldn't find package ndiswrapper |
| 04:06.48 | unstable | dererk: arch == architecture == cpu |
| 04:07.01 | simonrvn | more or less |
| 04:07.13 | dererk | simonrvn, unstable, server: i586 client: i686 :( |
| 04:07.34 | dererk | Didn't know it was a requirement to have the same arquitecture |
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| 04:07.46 | agtturnip | can you see why im so confused? |
| 04:07.48 | simonrvn | ok. so same basic arch. you haven't done something dumb like mount a sparc /usr to an x86 or something similar |
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| 04:07.57 | dererk | unstable, simonrvn, sorry, I wasn't thinking about that |
| 04:08.04 | Shin-Chan2 | it says couldn't find package ndiswrapper after i do the apt-get install ndiswrapper |
| 04:08.11 | simonrvn | dererk: now, can you answer my other question? |
| 04:08.23 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 04:08.25 | dererk | simonrvn, no, but ar regular machines |
| 04:08.28 | unstable | Or whatever your kernel is. |
| 04:08.29 | simonrvn | dererk: of course it is |
| 04:08.34 | unstable | !tell Shin-Chan2 about ndiswrapper |
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| 04:08.47 | simonrvn | "regular machine" means nothing |
| 04:09.17 | unstable | !tell Shin-Chan2 about ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 04:09.28 | agtturnip | I'm guessing my main problem is that I'm new to linux and this is my first attempt at installing it, thus i dont know what to do |
| 04:09.33 | dererk | I meant now a Sparc, nor an arm |
| 04:09.46 | dererk | s/now/not/ |
| 04:10.14 | squeaks | i want to install valknut, but have unmet dependency involving kdebluetooth (i don't want that), how can I fix it? http://pastebin.com/659024 |
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| 04:10.51 | Shin-Chan2 | ok it's downloading |
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| 04:10.54 | dererk | simonrvn, strange, but on the client, mount shows "noexec" :-\ |
| 04:11.03 | Shin-Chan2 | what's next? |
| 04:11.18 | dererk | simonrvn, and I'm sure I have "exec" on the fstab line |
| 04:11.22 | simonrvn | then you can't exec, obviously. edit your fstab apporpriately |
| 04:11.27 | simonrvn | check it |
| 04:11.33 | dererk | simonrvn, I did |
| 04:11.38 | dererk | simonrvn, it's there |
| 04:11.41 | agtturnip | gravity: have you ever run in to anything like that? |
| 04:11.45 | simonrvn | show me the line |
| 04:12.08 | gravity | agtturnip: No, not me. I recommend google. Sounds like your mbr is fucked |
| 04:12.14 | dererk | simonrvn, ip:/path /usr nfs rw,exec,users,auto 0 0 |
| 04:12.14 | simonrvn | blot out anything sensitive like hostname, if you feel you need to |
| 04:12.18 | agtturnip | mbr? |
| 04:12.18 | Shin-Chan2 | what do we do after apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 04:12.45 | Ratlump | 'lo 'vryone, anyone made a bootable USB flash stick? |
| 04:12.49 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: What does uname -r show you? |
| 04:13.28 | Shin-Chan2 | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 04:13.51 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: ok, type this as root "apt-get remove --purge ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.8-2-686" |
| 04:13.51 | agtturnip | how do i fix my mbr? |
| 04:14.19 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Now type this as root "apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper" |
| 04:14.38 | unstable | agtturnip: as root type "install-grub && grub-update" ? |
| 04:14.54 | simonrvn | dererk: i'd add ",_netdev,rsize=8192,wsize=8192" on the end of auto; remove "users". though /usr should be 755 |
| 04:15.16 | unstable | agtturnip: as root type "grub-install && update-grub" ? |
| 04:15.34 | dererk | simonrvn, wait... I take out "users" and now It seems to be working |
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| 04:15.50 | dererk | simonrvn, I would never think about it O_o' |
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| 04:15.59 | agtturnip | i can never get to root because when it trys to boot, there is an endless loop of 8080808080808080808 |
| 04:16.02 | npx | I'm looking for archives of legitimate, informative webpages/content to train a bayesian filter |
| 04:16.17 | unstable | agtturnip: Pop in a knoppix cd, chroot and then type it? |
| 04:16.26 | agtturnip | ok |
| 04:16.33 | unstable | !tell npx about spamassasin |
| 04:16.47 | npx | unstable, thanks I'll have a look |
| 04:16.47 | agtturnip | chroot in the konsole? |
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| 04:17.25 | unstable | npx: http://lwn.net/Articles/172491/ |
| 04:17.35 | dererk | simonrvn, great! |
| 04:17.36 | unstable | npx: http://lwn.net/Articles/173910/ |
| 04:17.39 | simonrvn | dererk: /usr should never be mount users or user. set on auto the only user that will mount 99% of the time is root |
| 04:17.42 | unstable | npx: You can also use clamav, I think? |
| 04:17.47 | dererk | simonrvn, just taking out "users" it worked! |
| 04:17.49 | simonrvn | mount it* |
| 04:17.54 | agtturnip | how do i get into root in knoppix? |
| 04:17.54 | simonrvn | dererk: :) |
| 04:18.03 | Shin-Chan2 | unstable > after that last command u gave me |
| 04:18.06 | dererk | simonrvn, I love you man! :* |
| 04:18.12 | agtturnip | or should i type that in before knoppix loads up? |
| 04:18.18 | simonrvn | heh, you're welcome |
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| 04:18.38 | unstable | agtturnip: You're in root by default in knoppix, I think? |
| 04:18.39 | dererk | simonrvn, and thanks for the explanation to |
| 04:18.43 | dererk | s/to/too/ |
| 04:18.48 | Shin-Chan2 | it says "Bad luck, the kernel headers for the for the target kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use" |
| 04:18.51 | gravity | unstable: No |
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| 04:19.01 | simonrvn | dererk: np |
| 04:19.07 | dererk | :) |
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| 04:19.18 | Eggplant | Hello all |
| 04:19.19 | agtturnip | i dont think so, whenever i try to open the root versions of programs, it asks for a password, then i have no idea what to do |
| 04:19.21 | unstable | gravity: It depends on the version of knoppix? |
| 04:19.21 | gravity | agtturnip: In your K menu there's an item that is a super-user terminal. I don't remember the exact name, but that's what you ened |
| 04:19.35 | gravity | agtturnip: It's separate from the normal kterm |
| 04:19.45 | unstable | !greet Eggplant |
| 04:19.45 | dpkg | Bonjour, Eggplant |
| 04:19.46 | Eggplant | Anyone know of a issue with nmap that would make it not work via subinterface ip's to random units on the network? |
| 04:19.47 | simonrvn | terminal (super user mode) or such |
| 04:19.52 | gravity | simonrvn: Yeah |
| 04:19.53 | agtturnip | ok |
| 04:20.03 | Eggplant | TY unstable, dpkg |
| 04:20.03 | Shin-Chan2 | what should i do now? :( |
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| 04:20.25 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: apt-cache search headers|grep 2.4.27-2 |
| 04:20.33 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: install the kernel headers? |
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| 04:20.56 | ascii | with xorg, ctrl + alt + (-/+) != resolution? |
| 04:21.15 | Shin-Chan2 | hmm i'm not sure |
| 04:21.17 | simonrvn | ascii: number pad +/- |
| 04:21.23 | ascii | yeah |
| 04:21.38 | Shin-Chan2 | but after apt-cache search headers|grep 2.4.27-2, i get a list of names |
| 04:22.12 | ascii | :/ |
| 04:22.12 | agtturnip | ok, it asks me for a password... i dont know any password |
| 04:22.55 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 04:24.17 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Now type this as root "apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper" |
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| 04:26.18 | pixolet | agtturnip in a non-root shell, can you run sudo su ? |
| 04:27.01 | Shin-Chan2 | ok done, so ndiswrapper is now installed ? |
| 04:27.11 | beetlepun_ | hi guys |
| 04:27.12 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: I have no idea. |
| 04:27.16 | unstable | !greet beetlepun_ |
| 04:27.16 | dpkg | Tag, beetlepun_ |
| 04:27.20 | beetlepun_ | ~!smarthost |
| 04:27.31 | Shin-Chan2 | err then what are the previous steps for ? |
| 04:27.55 | agtturnip | whats sudo su? |
| 04:28.26 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: You need to show me what is on your terminal screen. |
| 04:28.29 | unstable | !tell Shin-Chan2 about paste |
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| 04:28.41 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: put it on a pastebin site, and paste the _link_ in here, so we can see it. |
| 04:28.50 | lnc | is it possible to run games on wine? |
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| 04:29.00 | lnc | game like starcraft, etc |
| 04:29.01 | beetlepun_ | \dpkg tells me that http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO.html when I ask about smarthost, the tldp howto is stamped as of 2000, isn't this a little teenie old? |
| 04:29.09 | agtturnip | ok.... so im kindof in root |
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| 04:29.29 | agtturnip | its locked, but all programs are in root... i think |
| 04:29.34 | Shin-Chan2 | err i closed the terminal screen after "apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper" , i thought it was installed and done |
| 04:29.36 | Shin-Chan2 | sorry :( |
| 04:29.57 | wasted | apt: xorg 7.0 |
| 04:29.59 | vladuz976 | is there a debian wiki |
| 04:30.01 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you can use the program screen, (and then use screen -RR) |
| 04:30.03 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Do you remember what it said? |
| 04:30.08 | unstable | !tell vladuz976 about wiki |
| 04:30.08 | pixolet | agtturnip is gives limited root powers |
| 04:30.15 | pixolet | it*, sorry |
| 04:31.07 | Shin-Chan2 | it was downloading and unpacking stuffs |
| 04:31.13 | beetlepun_ | vladuz976, wiki? there are many wikis on google, the debian docs are in /usr/share/doc and man <cmd> (http://debian.org also has further reference docs online) |
| 04:31.16 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, try typing "modprobe ndiswrapper" as root maybe? |
| 04:31.17 | Shin-Chan2 | then i typed exit twice to exit |
| 04:31.36 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: I bet if you type /join #ndiswrapper right now, those people can help you better then I can. |
| 04:31.50 | vladuz976 | what exactly is a usenet newsgroup? |
| 04:31.56 | vladuz976 | just a bunch of mailing lists? |
| 04:32.05 | Halitherses | no |
| 04:32.10 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, there's a whole walkthrough online for ndiswrapper-- I've tried it |
| 04:32.20 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you have to know your chipset |
| 04:32.24 | agtturnip | ok, and i tryed that grub update thing, not quite sure what im doing |
| 04:32.34 | Halitherses | vladuz976, discussion forum |
| 04:32.35 | Shin-Chan2 | i cant understand about the un-tar, tar, and etc |
| 04:32.46 | Shin-Chan2 | i was using other OS all the time |
| 04:32.57 | Shin-Chan2 | this my first attempt on linux/ debian :( |
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| 04:33.22 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, tar --help ->eg: tar -xzvf <filename.tar.gz> (-z is for gz), (-j is for *.bz2) |
| 04:33.23 | Halitherses | tar joins many files into one big file called a tarball |
| 04:33.25 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Is this machine a production server, or a desktop? |
| 04:33.29 | Halitherses | !tar |
| 04:33.29 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 04:33.43 | beetlepun_ | wow dpkg is a good bot :) |
| 04:33.50 | Shin-Chan2 | unstable > it's just a laptop that i'm trying to use it to learn debian |
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| 04:34.08 | Blaxtic | hey - i've got a question about linux on the alpha. anyone game? |
| 04:34.27 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: What wireless card is it? |
| 04:34.44 | Shin-Chan2 | linksys wpc54g |
| 04:34.46 | Kevin` | broadcom something |
| 04:34.49 | unstable | !tell Blaxtic about anyone |
| 04:34.52 | Shin-Chan2 | ya |
| 04:34.53 | unstable | !tell Blaxtic about ask |
| 04:34.57 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, tkman works well for gui hihi, or use shell and cmd -- tar,cpio are tricky at first hand.. join #bash.. some folks can help you out where to start |
| 04:34.58 | agtturnip | ok...im giving up for tonight, thanks for the advice, hopefully i wont have to ask for help again |
| 04:35.15 | vladuz976 | are all debian packages i386 ? |
| 04:35.44 | Kevin` | no |
| 04:35.52 | beetlepun_ | vladuz976, i386 packages is for computers related to intel processor, and debian is available on +types of processors |
| 04:36.11 | Shin-Chan2 | beetlepun_ > there's no user in #bash |
| 04:36.35 | vladuz976 | i understand that it's ported to different architectures but for the PC is it only 386 or are there 686 packages except for the kernel |
| 04:36.49 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, haha, something's wrong with your connection, what irc server did you use? |
| 04:37.04 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, or maybe the server is so busy.. |
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| 04:37.06 | Shin-Chan2 | irc.freenode.net |
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| 04:37.24 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, what about #linpeople ##linux? |
| 04:37.52 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, understanding linux in general should help you out, before dwelving what makes debian different |
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| 04:38.10 | Shin-Chan2 | hmm that's the problem :) i havent tried linux before |
| 04:38.24 | Shin-Chan2 | this my first attempt and friend said i should start off with debian instead of knoppix |
| 04:38.25 | Kevin` | I could help you get ndiswrapper working very quickly in a non-debian way, but that's probably not a good thing |
| 04:38.38 | blujay | Is there any way to include debug symbols when building with apt-src? |
| 04:38.55 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Can you show me what lspci|grep -i linksys gives you? |
| 04:39.03 | Kevin` | it won't show as linksys |
| 04:39.19 | Kevin` | it's broadcom 4306 iirc from before |
| 04:39.29 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Can you show me what lspci|grep -i broadcom gives you? |
| 04:39.32 | Shin-Chan2 | help me with whatever ways u know please :) i just wish to get that machine online first |
| 04:39.34 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, well #debian is once you understand the basics of linux, otherwise I would strongly suggest #linpeople and ##linux, they'd be more helpful before asking decent debian questions worth time answering.. I think that would go for any distro.. basic linux then distro questions..no offense :) |
| 04:40.25 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 try this first, |
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| 04:40.35 | Kevin` | apt-get install ndiswrapper-module-`uname -r` |
| 04:40.52 | Shin-Chan2 | unstable > it says Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g blabla |
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| 04:41.05 | unstable | Good call Kevin` |
| 04:41.25 | Kevin` | also apt-get install ndiswrapper-tools, if that works |
| 04:41.53 | unstable | Shin-Chan2: Your card is supported natively under linux -> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
| 04:41.56 | Kevin` | sorry, ndiswrapper-modules-`uname -r` |
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| 04:42.01 | Shin-Chan2 | apt-get install ndiswrapper-module-`uname -r` <-- doesnt work |
| 04:42.02 | Kevin` | I forgot the s |
| 04:42.12 | Kevin` | unstable that support isn't very stable last time I checked |
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| 04:43.10 | Shin-Chan2 | apt-get install ndiswrapper-tools <-- this doesnt work :) |
| 04:43.17 | beetlepun_ | unstable, Kevin`, Shin-Chan2, no offense, but pretty much there are good walkthroughs after knowing that apt-get should work |
| 04:43.29 | Kevin` | ndiswrapper-utils |
| 04:43.34 | Kevin` | it must be late |
| 04:43.42 | Kevin` | did the first one work? |
| 04:43.55 | unstable | yea, I would grab from svn, He is using sarge, and one can only imagine how old the ndiswrapper code is |
| 04:43.59 | Shin-Chan2 | yes now both of them works...and says is already the newest version |
| 04:44.34 | Shin-Chan2 | beetlepun_ i tried the other two channels u suggested... no one seems to reply me either |
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| 04:44.50 | Kevin` | i'd have replied if I saw it heh |
| 04:45.04 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 become root and type ndiswrapper -l or something |
| 04:45.09 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, because it works, it's not 100%, there's a possibility there could be freezes, (rev# is important) and if your rev# is mentioned on the ndis site, report it that yours works ->http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 04:45.38 | Shin-Chan2 | no drivers installed |
| 04:45.48 | Kevin` | ok, do you have the (windows) driver for it? |
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| 04:46.48 | Shin-Chan2 | the .inf file ? |
| 04:46.48 | Kevin` | yes, that and the other files it needs |
| 04:46.49 | Kevin` | inf file is just a text file |
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| 04:46.52 | Shin-Chan2 | what are the other files ? |
| 04:46.56 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, *ahem, you can use 7zip to extract InstallShield cabinet .exe files :) (this will extract the company's distribution exe that contains the .inf files) |
| 04:46.58 | FarrisG | my mobile phone died, but not before I could export all my contacts as one long VCF card file... The problem is, it's just one long file tagged with "BEGIN:VCARD" and "END:VCARD" for each entry. Anyone know a quick sed/awk/vi/etc. trick to slice this up into individual files for each VCARD? |
| 04:47.01 | Kevin` | depends on the driver |
| 04:47.04 | Shin-Chan2 | i have the whole setup.exe in a winrar zip |
| 04:47.19 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you do it under linux with a cabextract tool |
| 04:47.48 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you can unrar and uncabextract it under linux.. |
| 04:47.53 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 once you get it extracted just go into the folder with the inf and other files and type ndiswrapper -i whatever.inf |
| 04:47.56 | Kevin` | will work most likely |
| 04:48.05 | blujay | FarrisG: do you really need separate VCF files? |
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| 04:49.27 | FarrisG | blujay: Well, anytime I try to import this big concacetenated file into my new phone (nasty Tmobile MDA, PocketPC) or Thunderbird, Outlook, Evolution, it treats it as one contact/vcard |
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| 04:50.13 | blujay | FarrisG: ouch. Well, there are many languages you could write a script in to do the splitting. awk could probably do it, for one, but I'm not enough of an expert to show you a one-liner. |
| 04:50.40 | blujay | FarrisG: you could probably even do a bash script |
| 04:51.03 | Shin-Chan2 | hmm how do i uncabextract? |
| 04:51.46 | FarrisG | blujay: Well, here's the real bitch. I can actually get it to import individual contact in Evolution. But getting it into my phone is not happenin' |
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| 04:52.02 | blujay | FarrisG: how are you trying to get it into the phone? |
| 04:53.17 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, it's a tool somewhere, apt-cache search cab extract |
| 04:53.31 | odla | i am trying to add the 2006 key and it's telling me that command 'add' isn't found |
| 04:53.40 | odla | i'm using the key from dpkg |
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| 04:54.17 | FarrisG | blujay: I just copied the file to the phone and then tried to import it through the Pocket PC contacts |
| 04:54.36 | blujay | Can you re-export from Evolution into separate files? |
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| 04:55.37 | odla | it's telling me that add is an invalid operation not an invalid command |
| 04:55.40 | FarrisG | blujay: Yeah, one at a time. But that would take forever. I'm trying to fake it |
| 04:55.54 | blujay | you can't multi-select and click export? |
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| 04:57.08 | blujay | FarrisG: it's things like that that cause me to use KDE :) In KDE: Multi-select->File/Export/Vcard/"Export to Several Files" or "Export to One File" |
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| 04:57.36 | FarrisG | blujay: Which app? |
| 04:57.43 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, ok, apt-get install cabextract unshield (if cabextract doesn't work on exe, unshield might) |
| 04:57.48 | blujay | FarrisG: kaddressbook |
| 04:58.21 | FarrisG | i'll try that |
| 04:58.24 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you can also say hell to using .chm ever again on winbloze, there's chm readers as well :) |
| 04:58.27 | blujay | FarrisG: good luck |
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| 05:03.42 | Shin-Chan2 | the driver is still downloading |
| 05:04.14 | odla | anyone had any luck installing e17 on testing? |
| 05:04.15 | Kevin` | i hate all the useless utils they commonly pack with a windows driver |
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| 05:04.45 | Kevin` | Enlightenment Version: 0.16.7.2 |
| 05:04.49 | Kevin` | hm guess not |
| 05:04.50 | Kevin` | :) |
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| 05:05.18 | odla | it's available as cvs but there are unofficial sid packages |
| 05:05.53 | isilzha | hi. does anybody have experience setting up maguma workbench? |
| 05:06.22 | beetlepun_ | isilzha, I can setup anything unless you pay me of course :) |
| 05:06.58 | Kevin` | hm, you'll set up stuff for me for free, as long as you don't get payed? |
| 05:06.59 | Kevin` | neato |
| 05:07.05 | Shin-Chan2 | ok i got the cabextract installed, i think |
| 05:07.19 | isilzha | sounds like a deal ^^ |
| 05:07.32 | blujay | FarrisG: if that doesn't work, I'm close to a script that will work, I think |
| 05:07.47 | Kevin` | I want you to set up a toolchain and working kernel for a d-link dsm-g600 revision b |
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| 05:08.03 | thedan | i am having an issue whereby a cannot obtain an ip address from my router; i have no trouble with the 2.6.12 debian kernel image, but upon an upgrade to the 2.6.15 and later 2.6.16 image, none of my interfaces will work |
| 05:08.05 | thedan | this is restricted to one machine |
| 05:08.05 | ultimated | i have a problem with pureftpd |
| 05:08.07 | Kevin` | it's harder then it should be :/ |
| 05:08.10 | isilzha | no actually some pointer would do... is there any howto on this? i didn't succeed finding one yet |
| 05:08.13 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you think ? open a termbox, you sure you using debian? hahaha.. |
| 05:08.14 | thedan | i have another box which works fine |
| 05:08.40 | ultimated | i have a problem with pureftpd how to Edit the Authentication Module |
| 05:08.42 | Shin-Chan2 | i dont really know how to use it hehe |
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| 05:08.51 | vin` | thedan: compare /etc/network/interfaces of the two machines. |
| 05:08.59 | Kevin` | you'll get used to it, eventually |
| 05:09.03 | Kevin` | or go crazy |
| 05:09.10 | Kevin` | the latter is scary |
| 05:09.11 | Shin-Chan2 | do all these programs and works has to be done in the terminal |
| 05:09.13 | vin` | Shin-Chan2: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:09.18 | thedan | yeah they're the same |
| 05:09.19 | Shin-Chan2 | or cant we just click to launch or something ? |
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| 05:09.25 | thedan | and i have tried both static and dhcp |
| 05:09.30 | Shin-Chan2 | vin` i'm trying to setup my wifi on this laptop with debian |
| 05:09.39 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, dude, you're not on debian, we can tell :) |
| 05:09.42 | thedan | it's not a dhcp problem i don't think |
| 05:09.42 | Shin-Chan2 | and uh... i've got a lot more to learn before even the setup of wifi |
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| 05:09.49 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 most people you'll ask here probably prefer to work with stuff like that in the terminal |
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| 05:10.02 | vin` | Shin-Chan2: what's that got to do with cabextract? |
| 05:10.23 | beetlepun_ | vin`, I suggested he install it with apt-get install, and he "thinks" he installed cabextract |
| 05:10.24 | thedan | googling revealed that some ppl had issues with ipv6 |
| 05:10.34 | Shin-Chan2 | cuz they were teaching me to extract the driver files from linksys package ? |
| 05:10.38 | thedan | so i've made sure the ipv6 module isn't loading |
| 05:10.41 | thedan | still no luck |
| 05:10.46 | ultimated | i have a problem with pureftpd how to Edit the Authentication Module |
| 05:10.57 | Shin-Chan2 | yes i think i installed it i'm not sure |
| 05:11.10 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, y, with root console, if not try using unshield to extract .exe to get to the ndis drivers and .inf files |
| 05:11.29 | Kevin` | mirc? :o |
| 05:11.31 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, but from what it sounds like, you don't even know how to install a package, so what's the point? |
| 05:11.48 | vin` | !refcard |
| 05:11.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, refcard is A short reference of Debian commands can be found at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ and will be quite useful for someone new to Debian. |
| 05:11.55 | sciboy | How can i specify a package version for apt to install? |
| 05:11.55 | Shin-Chan2 | yes i dont know how to install package and doesnt know how it works either -.- |
| 05:11.55 | odla | what package do i need for my usb to automount in kde? pmount? |
| 05:12.01 | Shin-Chan2 | that's why i said i'm trying to learn |
| 05:12.21 | vin` | Shin-Chan2: quickly read that refcard above. ^^ |
| 05:12.32 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, well type "xterm" in the start/run equivalent and type "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 05:12.34 | Shin-Chan2 | reading :) |
| 05:13.08 | beetlepun_ | *(doubts Shin-Chan2 is using debian) |
| 05:13.13 | Shin-Chan2 | type "xterm" in the start/run equivalent and type "cat /etc/debian_version" <-- err ? |
| 05:13.24 | vin` | thedan: does your NIC showup in ifconfig? |
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| 05:13.34 | Shin-Chan2 | err why would i wanna lie :( i just installed debian last night with the helps of the peoples here |
| 05:13.57 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, so what doc are you reading right now? |
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| 05:14.07 | ultimated | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.15 | Shin-Chan2 | the ref card vin suggested |
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| 05:16.30 | Shin-Chan2 | alright forget it >_< can someone tell me a way to remove/format whatever linux in this machine of mine ? |
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| 05:16.58 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, in parlance, "console" means you're either in TTY1 (ctrl-alt-f1, type ctrl-alt-f7 to come to gui) for a textual login, or xterm refers to like a dosbox, so that you can type those commands u see on the ref card.. (i hope you got that latter right) |
| 05:17.04 | vin` | Shin-Chan2: which linux is it? and what do you want to install instead? |
| 05:17.12 | RadSurfer | I installed Debian this evening. Can not get X-windows to work; it is installed. |
| 05:17.15 | squeaks | how can i mount /dev/sdc1 in /mnt/sdc1 so that all users can read it, by default no one else can, and its an ntfs partition |
| 05:17.15 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, so you lied |
| 05:17.26 | Shin-Chan2 | vin it's debian |
| 05:17.29 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, liar liar pants on fire! |
| 05:17.38 | beetlepun_ | * I knew it :) |
| 05:17.38 | Shin-Chan2 | and beetlepun please quit it, if u're not willing to help here |
| 05:17.40 | beetlepun_ | hihihi |
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| 05:17.52 | vin` | RadSurfer: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 05:17.53 | Kevin` | Shin-Chan2 if I knew how to extract those weird exe files, i'd tell you, but |
| 05:17.54 | beetlepun_ | Shin-Chan2, you're lying, how can we ever trust you? |
| 05:17.55 | Shin-Chan2 | i dont get a reason why should i lie about what version am i using if i were to get help |
| 05:18.11 | sciboy | Is there an override for /var/lib/dpkg/status that'll allow me to remove the dependency from a package and still maintain it when i update? |
| 05:18.13 | RadSurfer | Its on another system, brb. |
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| 05:19.11 | blujay | FarrisG: you still there? |
| 05:19.27 | beetlepun_ | sciboy, you can place that package on hold, is what you mean.. |
| 05:19.40 | sciboy | beetlepun_, No. |
| 05:19.51 | jm_ | squeaks: man mount, look at mount options for it |
| 05:20.11 | bhundven | ok. so I'm behind in the times or something. I just did a fresh install of debian and I cant seem to get X started because it can't find the fixed font. I installed the xfonts-base package... which from memory is the package that stores it. |
| 05:20.12 | sciboy | beetlepun_, The package depends on another package which has already been provide by another one which conflicts with it. |
| 05:20.24 | sciboy | beardy, provided* |
| 05:20.31 | sciboy | beetlepun_, !! |
| 05:20.40 | beetlepun_ | sciboy, you can define "it" more than 3 ways in your previous sentence |
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| 05:21.19 | Blushi | where do i get make-kpkg, i can not find it in aptitude |
| 05:21.21 | sciboy | beetlepun_, nvidia-glx (7174) depends on xserver-common which conflicts with the new xserver modules. |
| 05:21.30 | thedan_ | make-kpkg, um, kernel-package |
| 05:21.31 | beetlepun_ | sciboy, ah, you can use a "diversion" option, which can help |
| 05:21.45 | jm_ | !tell Blushi -about search |
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| 05:22.03 | bhundven | xorg.conf has: FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" |
| 05:22.21 | beetlepun_ | sciboy, ? then just make another boot option in the bootmenu or whatever-- do another x startup type |
| 05:22.22 | Blushi | thanks |
| 05:23.24 | rredd4 | using sarge, when I open a radio stream, what program should it open. This is a wma stream. It trys to open mplayer via mozilla, but its very slow. I have cable |
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| 05:23.41 | RadSurfer | vin`: " grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log " --> "No such file or directory" done as root. |
| 05:24.08 | solid_liq | is there an nxclient/nxserver in apt? |
| 05:24.08 | jshriver | Anyone here use gaim and if so can yo uconnect to AIM? Wondering if aol changed the protocol again because gaim can't connect and it's not a connection problem on my end everything else works |
| 05:24.10 | vin` | RadSurfer: are you running sarge? |
| 05:24.14 | beetlepun_ | Kevin`, .exe files might just be bundled up as InstallShield installation files (.msi files too can be extracted) and be unzipped to reach things like ndis drivers, this way one can say f** to the acme guy who's lazy not to provide non-ms packages |
| 05:24.22 | RadSurfer | dont know what that is. I saw it mentioned during install. |
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| 05:24.41 | RadSurfer | I am at an init 3 prompt apparently. |
| 05:25.04 | beetlepun_ | Kevin`, unshield and the package cabextract offer this feature.. |
| 05:25.33 | RadSurfer | It first tried using a Vesa driver, but I have a ATI mach32 card.... |
| 05:25.48 | RadSurfer | I can tell you that other distro's find this card. Debian seems to have difficulty. |
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| 05:27.19 | xerophyte | say for example i am rsync a file which is symlink .. and i use the -L option i get the real file but how can i get the real file with original file name and i need to download the symlink file but result should be real file with real name .. because i have filname-lastest.gz which points to filename-realdate.gz so i want the realfile name |
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| 05:27.48 | squeaks | jm_, thanks, -o umask=0222 worked |
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| 05:28.46 | beetlepun_ | squeaks, isn't it 0022? |
| 05:28.59 | RadSurfer | So what can I do to diagnose X-Window problem? |
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| 05:29.09 | marek23 | hello, I just installed a copy of debian stable. When I was intalling the x-server I accidently skipped the autodetect stage. Now when I run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" it doesn't give me the option of doing an autoconfigure. What do I do? |
| 05:29.26 | beetlepun_ | RadSurfer, you can compare lines in the X conf file? see what driver you're really using |
| 05:29.48 | vin` | RadSurfer: is x-window-system installed? |
| 05:30.02 | litage | using kernel 2.4.27-2-386 i can use my dvd-rom. using kernel 2.6.15-1-686-smp the dvd-rom isn't found. modules ide-cd and cdrom are loaded. the drive's not mentioned in dmesg, syslog, lshw, etc. i'm running debian. any thoughts as to what the problem is? |
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| 05:30.19 | RadSurfer | yes, it can't generate a screen though. |
| 05:30.21 | litage | s/debian/testing/ |
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| 05:30.37 | beetlepun_ | litage, what processor is your computer? |
| 05:30.39 | vin` | RadSurfer: how are you starting X? |
| 05:30.41 | RadSurfer | /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Debian doesn't use this ? |
| 05:30.52 | RadSurfer | It tries during boot, fails, rebounds to initd 3 |
| 05:30.59 | litage | beetlepun_: /proc/cpuinfo says: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz |
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| 05:31.28 | beetlepun_ | RadSurfer, hihihi, no way it doesn't, doesn't sound like debian to me..so what runlevel does your machine really start on then? |
| 05:31.46 | RadSurfer | Its supposed to be GUI, 5 |
| 05:31.52 | RadSurfer | let me check /var/log's |
| 05:32.23 | beetlepun_ | litage, sweet, 3 ghz! |
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| 05:32.48 | RadSurfer | I see your error: its XFree86.* not Xorg.* |
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| 05:33.08 | squeaks | beetlepun_, well i guess it could be, but i let root have permissions too |
| 05:33.15 | litage | beetlepun_: what does that have to do with an unrecognized optical drive? |
| 05:33.33 | beetlepun_ | squeaks, well it's wrong, umask should be 0022 |
| 05:34.35 | beetlepun_ | litage, your processor is really smp? don't know if this should have any effect |
| 05:35.42 | Gnea | uhm |
| 05:35.55 | beetlepun_ | litage, hmm y, try apt-getting latest module tools |
| 05:35.56 | bhundven | really. running sid; in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/fonts.dir I have tons of lines of mappings to the fixed font, yet having the font path in the xorg.conf I keep getting: could not open the default font 'fixed' |
| 05:35.57 | litage | beetlepun_: the smp kernel option is useful if your cpu supports hyperthreading |
| 05:36.12 | RadSurfer | xf86config-4 has it listed as a "generic video card" ATI isn't in there! |
| 05:36.17 | RadSurfer | So how can I fix this please? |
| 05:36.23 | beetlepun_ | litage, apt-get install module-init-tools |
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| 05:36.53 | Gnea | RadSurfer: what's the problem, exactly? |
| 05:37.12 | RadSurfer | I just installed Debian 3.1 last night. It will not go into X.... |
| 05:37.22 | RadSurfer | It is not identifying my ATI card properly apparently. |
| 05:37.34 | Gnea | !ati |
| 05:37.34 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 05:37.44 | RadSurfer | Ok. |
| 05:37.47 | Gnea | have you read that? |
| 05:37.56 | kartik | where can I find repository for etch amd64? |
| 05:38.02 | RadSurfer | This card works 100% with other distro's. Surprised Debian had an issue. |
| 05:38.05 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 05:38.05 | dpkg | [amd64] See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 05:38.06 | Rizzer | RadSurfer: in an emergency, the vesa driver can act as an all-purpose driver |
| 05:38.17 | RadSurfer | How can I se that please? |
| 05:38.18 | litage | beetlepun_: i already have the latest version of module-init-tools |
| 05:38.27 | Gnea | RadSurfer: lynx or links |
| 05:38.35 | kartik | Gnea, thanks! |
| 05:38.35 | beetlepun_ | litage, try the other kernel image, (you've guessed what smp really is, but I don't think this should be the problem--) |
| 05:38.49 | RadSurfer | How can I set ;Vesa please? |
| 05:38.51 | Gnea | kartik: ? |
| 05:39.02 | bhundven | man vesa |
| 05:39.07 | Gnea | RadSurfer: just read the URL |
| 05:39.17 | litage | beetlepun_: 2.6.15-1-686-smp is what's currently running. i tried 2.6.15-1-686 but the problem persisted |
| 05:39.17 | beetlepun_ | litage, well the /dev/<devnode> file should be created on your normal login, so either that or pamconsole stuff |
| 05:39.17 | RadSurfer | Ok |
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| 05:39.41 | marek23 | How do I autodetect my graphics card in debian stable? |
| 05:39.45 | beetlepun_ | litage, are you testing this in console? |
| 05:39.51 | Gnea | !drx |
| 05:39.51 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 05:40.13 | litage | beetlepun_: i'm not sure which device the dvd-rom should be. when i boot with a 2.4 kernel, the drive is /dev/hdc, but that's because the HD is /dev/hda. the dvd-rom is a pata ide drive. the HD is sata |
| 05:40.21 | Gnea | marek23: you may need to provide some manual information to the configuration utility |
| 05:40.28 | Rizzer | RadSurfer: by hand, Section "Device" Driver "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:40.32 | litage | beetlepun_: i'm checking these things at the cli |
| 05:40.46 | RadSurfer | I did not see a xorg.conf in there... |
| 05:40.46 | Gnea | Rizzer: he's not using Xorg |
| 05:40.54 | RadSurfer | I saw XF86config-4, same thing? |
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| 05:41.12 | Gnea | RadSurfer: no, that's xfree86, the old X |
| 05:41.14 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 05:41.14 | dpkg | xorg is, like, X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 05:41.26 | beetlepun_ | litage, what's the ide controller is important, successor technology are usually working on their downgrade compatible |
| 05:41.28 | RadSurfer | I should see xorg.conf... |
| 05:41.28 | Rizzer | same diff |
| 05:41.31 | rredd4 | how do i open radio streams? |
| 05:41.41 | marek23 | Gnea: But I saw it asking me whether I wanted to autodetect when I installed x-window-system. I accidently pressed no, I want that screen back. I don't know what graphics card is running on this machine. Some integrated intel thing I know nothing about |
| 05:41.44 | Gnea | RadSurfer: not in sarge by default, you'll need to install it from another source |
| 05:41.45 | Rizzer | /etc/X11/xfree86.conf, whatever it is |
| 05:41.48 | Gnea | !tell RadSurfer about get xorg |
| 05:41.49 | beetlepun_ | litage, probably pata is not compiled or needs to be loaded |
| 05:41.53 | Kevin` | mplayer is generally capable of playing radio streams |
| 05:42.06 | RadSurfer | No such file exists in /etc/X11 |
| 05:42.08 | litage | which LKM provides pata support? |
| 05:42.23 | Gnea | !tell RadSurfer about xorg sarge |
| 05:42.33 | Gnea | RadSurfer: please, pay attention and read. |
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| 05:42.51 | RadSurfer | I dont see why other Distro's have less difficulty than this :) |
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| 05:42.52 | beetlepun_ | litage, not sure, hold on |
| 05:43.06 | rredd4 | Kevin when I open through mozilla mplayer plugin, its slow and I have cable. |
| 05:43.25 | Gnea | RadSurfer: do you want to get somewhere or do you want to gather rust? |
| 05:43.42 | RadSurfer | One reason why I installed this -- to learn more about linux. |
| 05:43.49 | RadSurfer | I wasn't expected this problem. |
| 05:43.54 | Gnea | yes yes, that's fine |
| 05:43.55 | Gnea | well |
| 05:44.02 | Kevin` | rredd4 2 possibilities arise, the server is slow, the audio.. rendering is slow |
| 05:44.03 | Gnea | you need to learn how to expect the unexpected then |
| 05:44.13 | jm_ | litage: not familiar with ICR stuff, but on old Intel boards it's piix for IDE |
| 05:44.32 | Kevin` | or, your connection isn't as fast as you think, of course |
| 05:44.35 | rredd4 | Kevin When I open it in windoze, it is fast |
| 05:45.03 | Kevin` | could be a problem with the decoding used |
| 05:45.16 | Kevin` | i'd ask #mplayer |
| 05:45.36 | rredd4 | Kevin` I did try, will try again |
| 05:46.13 | beetlepun_ | litage, well I don't have a srctree unfortunately, try perusing for pata, and see what mod carries for it.. I believe it's probably the sata drivers..not sure though.. have you tried one of the sata_ mods? |
| 05:46.28 | beetlepun_ | litage, find out with 2.4 if you're using a sata_ mod.. |
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| 05:46.43 | Gnea | litage: if it's sata, you should really be using a 2.6 kernel |
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| 05:47.48 | RadSurfer | very unimpressed: debian did not even found the mouse on this system. Back to real linux I guess. Thanks guys. |
| 05:47.53 | beetlepun_ | litage, but did you build this kernel? |
| 05:48.19 | Kevin` | real linux? which |
| 05:49.09 | Gnea | RadSurfer: debian is very much real linux, you just don't know how to use real linux. |
| 05:49.20 | squeaks | beetlepun, why is it umask 0022? man umask is not enlightening |
| 05:49.25 | RadSurfer | I was able to install Fedora. It used the graphical install because it ID-ed my video ati mach card correctly, and found a mouse. For me, both Ubuntu and Debian do not find a mouse, or video card. I dont know why. |
| 05:49.32 | RadSurfer | I can mention that this system is a Pent 3. |
| 05:49.33 | gravity | RadSurfer: It's a bug |
| 05:49.38 | beetlepun_ | squeaks, fine, then use whatever umask you want |
| 05:49.40 | gravity | RadSurfer: If you could file the bugs, they could be fixed for future releases |
| 05:49.47 | Gnea | RadSurfer: look, you asked for help and it was provided. you fail to READ and so therefore the problem is 100% your own fault. |
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| 05:49.49 | squeaks | beetlepun_, i believe you, i just want to know why |
| 05:49.51 | RadSurfer | its an AMD 400mhz |
| 05:49.56 | RadSurfer | via machine. very common. |
| 05:49.59 | gravity | RadSurfer: Also, you can manually configure things in the mean time so that your hardware does work |
| 05:50.14 | RadSurfer | If youhave that kind of experience, perhaps :-) |
| 05:50.25 | beetlepun_ | squeaks, man umask |
| 05:50.28 | gravity | RadSurfer: You can gain that kind of experience. It's not magic and it's not really even that hard. |
| 05:50.34 | Gnea | yes, i am literate. |
| 05:50.42 | gravity | RadSurfer: Anyway, if Fedora suits you better I hope you enjoy it |
| 05:50.53 | Gnea | good. |
| 05:51.00 | Gnea | because this isn't some pansy rpm-based distro |
| 05:51.00 | gravity | RadSurfer: The beautfy of linux is that you can find the distro that's right for you |
| 05:51.09 | beetlepun_ | squeaks, but I'm not referring to using it always as like it for mountpoints.. in this parlance |
| 05:51.09 | gravity | If Debian's not it, then best of luck wherever you end up |
| 05:51.12 | RadSurfer | Even Mandriva installed better than debian. I thought Debian was around a lot longer, therefore less problems. |
| 05:51.56 | Gnea | RadSurfer: then that's an assumption that you derived in your head. each distro has its own set of problems. your problem is that you expect too much from so much unknown. |
| 05:51.56 | vin` | RadSurfer: try testing, you'll have xorg, if X still doesn't work, copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf from a working distro, done. |
| 05:52.12 | RadSurfer | mandriva has an impressive display, but found configuring hardware not too intuitive. |
| 05:52.30 | Gnea | debian isn't meant to mimic windows. |
| 05:52.39 | RadSurfer | I can try that. Copy a working Xorg.conf. if that doesn't work, I'll not worry about it. Thanks. |
| 05:52.51 | Gnea | RadSurfer: btw, what kernel did you install with? |
| 05:52.51 | streuner | RadSufer: if you don't want read man-pages Linux isn't what you want |
| 05:53.03 | RadSurfer | I can tell you exactly, just a sec... |
| 05:53.11 | Gnea | RadSurfer: oh btw, RTFM is what makes linux experts experts. |
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| 05:53.27 | Gnea | and tweaking, of course |
| 05:53.50 | RadSurfer | Downloading from here: http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 05:54.16 | RadSurfer | What? |
| 05:54.24 | Gnea | RadSurfer: no no, i asked you what *kernel* you're using. |
| 05:54.42 | Gnea | !tell RadSurfer about newbie_guide |
| 05:54.44 | RadSurfer | you want uname -r |
| 05:54.51 | Gnea | !tell RadSurfer about newbiedoc |
| 05:54.57 | Gnea | or cat /proc/version |
| 05:54.59 | Gnea | whichever suits you |
| 05:55.35 | RadSurfer | I wanted the last stable release, I realize it wouldn't be the most recent kernel, etc. |
| 05:55.44 | RadSurfer | At least thats what I was aiming for. |
| 05:55.47 | Gnea | RadSurfer: sorry for the splinters, the learning curve can be quite treacherous at times. |
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| 05:55.56 | RadSurfer | Thanks, I'll not worry about it now. |
| 05:56.03 | Gnea | good. |
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| 05:56.14 | Gnea | and yet, you fail to respond with the kernel version. |
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| 05:58.53 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.59 | streuner | well, iam begin to wonder what kind of mouse that was... |
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| 06:00.02 | valdyn | streuner: he didnt even have X running did he? his mouse issue is non-existant |
| 06:00.31 | streuner | or the mice vs. psaux problem, which is pretty common |
| 06:00.54 | Gnea | he got help then went on a rant about distros |
| 06:01.11 | woodland | dpkg hi |
| 06:01.11 | dpkg | que tal |
| 06:01.21 | woodland | dpkg |
| 06:01.22 | marek23 | what module to ps2 mice require to be present? hid-core is for usb mice right? |
| 06:01.34 | valdyn | !usbmouse |
| 06:01.34 | dpkg | somebody said usbmouse was [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
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| 06:01.36 | valdyn | !psmouse |
| 06:01.37 | Gnea | woodland: please don't abuse the bot. |
| 06:01.51 | valdyn | marek23: uh, psmouse |
| 06:02.15 | woodland | Gnea: i am trying to learn |
| 06:02.34 | zms_ | marek23: psmouse? |
| 06:02.41 | Gnea | woodland: please learn how not to abuse the bot, thanks. |
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| 06:03.05 | valdyn | woodland: you can mess around with dpkg as much as you want if you use '/msg dpkg' ) |
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| 06:03.25 | marek23 | it was mousedev in case anyone cares |
| 06:03.44 | valdyn | marek23: mousedev is for interaction with udev iirc |
| 06:04.06 | Thanashiba | when i install NFS on a chroot environment now in ETCH, with the /proc mounted on it, i can't posible to umount the proc after, i don't have look this problem before... any idea ? |
| 06:04.17 | woodland | valdyn: thanx man |
| 06:04.33 | streuner | description: Mouse (ExplorerPS/2) device interfaces |
| 06:04.34 | marek23 | valdyn: oops, you're right, the mouse doesn't work with it, but at least x starts... |
| 06:04.50 | streuner | mousedev has nothing to do with udev |
| 06:04.57 | woodland | i want to increase resolution. resolution is not as good as in windows. how do i do that |
| 06:05.04 | valdyn | !mousedev |
| 06:05.15 | streuner | !listvals mousedev |
| 06:05.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'mousedev' by value (5): two mice ;; 2.6 mouse ;; usbmouse ;; 2.6 ps2 ;; xwontstart. |
| 06:06.01 | Gnea | woodland: you'll need to configure X for that |
| 06:06.10 | Gnea | !tell woodland about drxx |
| 06:06.15 | chemaja | woodland, i had that problem. xorg was incorrectly configured by default. i had to `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and do the Advanced monitor setup, where I specified my hoz and vert refresh rates (Sony G400 19" CRT) |
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| 06:06.40 | Gnea | woodland: listen to chemaja :) |
| 06:07.05 | woodland | chemaja: hi i have a laptop and i cant find that hoz and vert refresh rates |
| 06:07.23 | chemaja | woodland, i have no idea how this applies to LCDs |
| 06:07.45 | Gnea | !laptop |
| 06:07.45 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 06:07.51 | valdyn | woodland: you can just try assuming 60hz or 70 hz if you want |
| 06:08.00 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
| 06:08.08 | Gnea | woodland: the specs for your laptop can probably be found at one of the aforementioned urls |
| 06:08.20 | valdyn | woodland: as a low refresh rate wont bother you on an lcd display |
| 06:08.26 | marek23 | what do I need to do to set up XForwarding out of my machine. I've set up sshd_config and my xserver starts but I still can't seem to forward X out of it |
| 06:08.31 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
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| 06:09.52 | valdyn | woodland: y reso * refresh rate / 1000 = vert frequency in hz |
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| 06:10.10 | valdyn | woodland: s/hz/khz/ |
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| 06:10.22 | woodland | valdyn: is that for laptop? |
| 06:10.30 | valdyn | woodland: for anything |
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| 06:10.44 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
| 06:11.10 | valdyn | woodland: say 1024*768 at 70hz requires 768*70/100 khz at least |
| 06:11.14 | valdyn | woodland: say 1024*768 at 70hz requires 768*70/1000 khz at least |
| 06:11.28 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
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| 06:12.07 | valdyn | woodland: uh, i think im mixing up horizontal and vertical =/ |
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| 06:12.33 | woodland | valdyn: i am looking that laptop site, imay find something there |
| 06:12.33 | valdyn | woodland: you're probably fine with one of the default values if you dont chose the expert mode too |
| 06:12.56 | gnufan | woodland the configure has an option for LCD screens, generally these are detected correctly and don't need refresh rates, what resolution (check it) did you get in Windows, check also what you got in Linux. |
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| 06:13.18 | woodland | valdyn: last time i think i chose default values, but my resolution is not correct |
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| 06:13.44 | woodland | gnufan: thanx |
| 06:13.52 | valdyn | woodland: get-edid | parse-edid ( or somesuch ) |
| 06:14.27 | valdyn | woodland: after you apt-get install read-edid |
| 06:14.56 | unstable | http://digg.com/technology/AOL_blocks_DearAol.com_emails |
| 06:15.09 | woodland | valdyn: what is this edid for |
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| 06:15.35 | valdyn | woodland: this should show monitor specs as provided by your monitor |
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| 06:15.44 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
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| 06:16.31 | valdyn | aol will 'censor' you using 3rd party smtp servers too |
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| 06:18.26 | Azar | yup pay-per-mail punishment |
| 06:18.45 | woodland | valdyn: that command output i have pasted here http://pastebin.com/659093 |
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| 06:19.44 | valdyn | woodland: oh well, bad luck |
| 06:19.57 | valdyn | woodland: err |
| 06:20.05 | valdyn | woodland: you typed pare-edid, its parse-edid |
| 06:20.09 | woodland | valdyn: what happened |
| 06:20.13 | woodland | ok |
| 06:20.29 | woodland | valdyn: sorry |
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| 06:23.33 | woodland | valdyn: i am getting same output again. here http://pastebin.com/659094 |
| 06:24.11 | valdyn | woodland: looks like your display has no useful edid info, that's ok, but not useful anyway |
| 06:24.38 | woodland | valdyn: so what i do |
| 06:24.57 | valdyn | !drxx woodland |
| 06:24.57 | dpkg | woodland: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:25.30 | woodland | valdyn: ok |
| 06:26.11 | woodland | valdyn: r u expert in unix |
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| 06:26.17 | valdyn | marek23: no |
| 06:26.24 | valdyn | marek23: ops |
| 06:26.27 | valdyn | woodland: no |
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| 06:26.56 | valdyn | marek23: how are you trying to use X Forwarding exactly? |
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| 06:27.59 | marek23 | I'm sshing into my new debian system and trying to run gvim |
| 06:28.02 | aeronadix | my video driver just went kapoot. My monitor is all dark. Maybe its hardware |
| 06:28.12 | valdyn | marek23: HOW exactly |
| 06:28.35 | marek23 | ssh newmachine -X |
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| 06:28.47 | valdyn | marek23: ssh -X newmachine |
| 06:28.58 | Blaxtic | any alpha users here? any at all? |
| 06:29.02 | Nopalin | hey, how can i install gnome 2.14? |
| 06:29.10 | valdyn | Nopalin: on sarge? |
| 06:29.10 | Kevin` | placement of the -X does not matter |
| 06:29.39 | Nopalin | is it on unstable right? i cant install it on sarge, my machin is an hybrid |
| 06:29.49 | woodland | valdyn: how do i copy text in this xchat session |
| 06:29.59 | valdyn | marek23: and the sshd_modification was done on which machine? |
| 06:30.01 | aeronadix | yeah its hardware |
| 06:30.12 | valdyn | woodland: mark the text with your mouse and paste with middle mouse button |
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| 06:30.38 | marek23 | valdyn: the one I'm sshing into |
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| 06:30.59 | x0mhau | hi * |
| 06:31.03 | valdyn | marek23: /etc/init.d/ssh restart on that machine you are sshing into |
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| 06:31.14 | valdyn | !sshx |
| 06:31.14 | dpkg | somebody said sshx was Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 06:31.24 | Nopalin | valdyn: i do apt-get install gnome -t unstable, but it install gnome 2.12, i did read that gnome 2.14 is on unstable :s |
| 06:31.27 | woodland | valdyn: my mouse dont have middle button. i have wheel |
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| 06:31.39 | x0mhau | i install XP under qemu, and now i want to install program, how to? |
| 06:31.45 | valdyn | woodland: my wheel is a button aswell |
| 06:32.37 | marek23 | valdyn: thank you! I completely forgot that I had to restart it. Stupid me |
| 06:33.00 | valdyn | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 06:33.09 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 369 kB, Installed size: 864 kB |
| 06:33.23 | valdyn | Nopalin: see ^^ |
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| 06:38.09 | vin` | http://www.paperboy.nl/index.cfm?PID=D7BABCB1-F0DA-48A3-A3A29E3F4560B245 |
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| 06:40.04 | litage | beetlepun_: sorry for the delay, had to attend to something that was afk |
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| 06:41.55 | SatanGolga | does anyone know how to run "rescue" so u can boot and edit lilo.conf when getting Kernel panic? |
| 06:42.10 | Kevin` | what kernel panic? |
| 06:42.20 | liable | SatanGolga: sarge or etch cd? |
| 06:42.32 | x0mhau | how to copy date from hdd into XP ( XP installed under qemu ) |
| 06:42.43 | x0mhau | s/date/data |
| 06:42.46 | SatanGolga | liable: i have the sarge |
| 06:42.54 | Kevin` | x0mhau easiest probably use qemu's networking |
| 06:43.01 | SatanGolga | liable: what cmd do i run? |
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| 06:43.55 | x0mhau | Kevin`, yes tutorial ? |
| 06:44.06 | liable | SatanGolga: you need to mount the root fs, then chroot to it. apparently root=/dev/blah works, (as a boot option) if that fails try the devfs version |
| 06:44.18 | x|e | how can i take some space from my home partition and resize another partition |
| 06:44.54 | Kevin` | x0mhau honestly, I knew enough about networking when I started using qemu to figure it out without a tutorial |
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| 06:50.00 | unimauro_ | hi |
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| 06:50.48 | liable | hola |
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| 06:51.02 | Kournikova | hello guys.. i've a perl program running in the background which is connected to mysql... when i change the password for the connection, and i do kill -1 PID_OF_PROGRAM .. it doent reload the stuff, what do i need to do ? |
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| 06:51.30 | liable | killall -HUP ?? |
| 06:51.30 | x0mhau | Kevin`, XP run normal ? , i see it run very slow :( |
| 06:51.54 | Kevin` | x0mhau are you using the kqemu module? |
| 06:52.11 | Kevin` | that should improve speed somewhat over basic cpu emulation |
| 06:52.32 | Kournikova | it doesnt reload |
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| 06:52.57 | jm_ | Kournikova: why do you think it should magically do that? |
| 06:53.03 | x0mhau | Kevin`, i installed qemu |
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| 06:53.29 | Usiu | Hi |
| 06:53.44 | Usiu | After installing new xorg I lost my polish keyboard... any help ? |
| 06:53.49 | Kournikova | because i changed the password in the perl script, and kill -1 doesnt reload it.. |
| 06:53.57 | deadcat | Usiu: /topic |
| 06:54.41 | jm_ | haha |
| 06:54.51 | Usiu | deadcat, thx |
| 06:55.12 | deadcat | np |
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| 06:55.59 | Kournikova | jm_ ? |
| 06:56.01 | jm_ | Kournikova: ! |
| 06:56.12 | Kournikova | what? |
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| 06:56.49 | Kournikova | jm_: the perl program is running in background, i change the pass in the script, and kill -1 pid doesnt react.. |
| 06:57.29 | jm_ | Kournikova: you don't know how things work, do you? |
| 06:57.46 | liable | hrm, should i have another crack at xorg is the question of the afternoon.. |
| 06:58.14 | Kournikova | jm_: tell me |
| 06:58.16 | jm_ | liable: I think most people had issues with xkb-data missing |
| 06:58.31 | liable | jm_: i have worse ones :) |
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| 06:58.56 | liable | jm_: missing mdsums and then something else and i gave up in the end. |
| 06:58.57 | Kournikova | jm_? wha tnow? |
| 06:59.09 | jm_ | Kournikova: no, I don't have time to explain you all the things, just a short note - you need a signal handler that will react accordingly |
| 06:59.13 | dominicano | !seen dvm1981 |
| 06:59.14 | dpkg | dvm1981 <n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 26d 13h 18m 53s ago, saying: 'Maulkin: Thanks. :-)'. |
| 06:59.40 | EdwardTLS | my ssh tab completion is not working.. |
| 06:59.46 | jm_ | liable: maybe things are upside-down down there, so try filtering it through upside-down |
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| 06:59.52 | EdwardTLS | If I press tab I get" ssh |1|" |
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| 07:00.14 | Kournikova | jm_: and which handler is that? man just tell me so i can learn sjeesh |
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| 07:01.27 | liable | seeing as downgrading xorg (or whatever bits I actually got) has made xorg use 99% cpu.. i might have to have another crack at it. |
| 07:01.50 | tienchi | The laptop has an ALi Corporation M5451 audio chip which is supported by Linux. If you want to use OSS, simply load the trident module and you should see something like: |
| 07:01.50 | tienchi | Trident 4DWave/SiS 7018/ALi 5451,Tvia CyberPro 5050 PCI Audio, version |
| 07:01.50 | tienchi | 0.14.10h, 23:44:34 Sep 5 2003 |
| 07:01.50 | tienchi | trident: ALi Audio Accelerator found at IO 0x3000, IRQ 11 |
| 07:01.51 | tienchi | The chip is also supported by ALSA with the snd_ali5451 module. Ali Shah pointed out that the module takes about 10 seconds to load (see the ALSA bug), but other than that the driver works fine. ----------------------SOME ONE CAN EXPLAIN ME HOW TO INSTALL THIS DRIVER FOR THE SOUND CARD??? |
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| 07:01.52 | kevix | liable: how about 'cat /dev/wallet'? |
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| 07:02.28 | liable | >> liables retirement fund?? |
| 07:02.33 | fg | hey, i just updated kernel from 2.6.13 to newest stable and i don't see NAT/MASQ options in the config? what were they renamed to |
| 07:02.37 | kevix | tienchi: you can not paste more than 3 lines or you get kicked. |
| 07:02.54 | deadcat | cool links2 -g works again. (= |
| 07:03.01 | tienchi | kevix, yeah, now i got it :( |
| 07:03.09 | jm_ | Kournikova: for SIGHUP obviously |
| 07:03.17 | kevix | tienchi: you can use #flood or a paste website |
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| 07:04.15 | Kournikova | kill -SIGHUP PID doesnt do it |
| 07:04.49 | tienchi | kevix, #flood is for??? |
| 07:05.05 | kevix | deadcat: were you getting /dev/tty0 permission problems, and the upgrade to links2 solved it? if so, which vers. |
| 07:05.31 | kevix | tienchi: it is a channel to paste a short amount of info to show an error. |
| 07:05.59 | deadcat | kevix: ya. i had that problem before: ii links2 2.1pre21-1 Web browser running in both graphics and tex |
| 07:06.20 | narff | which command can give my file size in bytes? |
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| 07:06.51 | gnufan | tienchi: the Sarge 2.6.8-2 kernel has that module in it. What kernel you using? |
| 07:06.59 | jm_ | narff: ls, stat |
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| 07:07.06 | kevix | deadcat: yup. I have 2.1pre20-3. need to upgrade! |
| 07:07.28 | tienchi | gnufan, 2.6.8 |
| 07:07.35 | kevix | narff: I like 'du -k FILE' for kb and 'du -m FILE' for MB |
| 07:08.00 | tienchi | gnufan, Linux USER-C8FD7473AF 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:08.12 | gnufan | tienchi: check "dmesg" for references, then try "modprobe snd-ali5451.ko" and check again |
| 07:08.42 | dacer | hi, i have a problem with cups, I can not print. This is cups log file : http://dacer.homeip.net/cups/error.log |
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| 07:09.08 | dacer | and this is a screenshot from hplip: http://dacer.homeip.net/cups/Pantallazo.png |
| 07:09.17 | menko | Hey what's the best way to end a process (X one if that matters) if I can't exit it directly, just a standard kill or killall command? |
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| 07:10.16 | dacer | anyone can help me? |
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| 07:10.22 | kevix | menko: there are various 'signal's that you can send a process. kill == kill -1. kill -9 is the most abrupt way. 'man kill' for more info. |
| 07:10.25 | dacer | I can not solve it |
| 07:10.29 | gnufan | menko: Just plain "kill <pid>" is good |
| 07:10.44 | menko | ok thanks people |
| 07:10.44 | Chob | anyone using a 3ware 9550sx raid control with problem ? ours uses 100% wa in top when it has to write a lot (like dd) and while this happens other processes can do nothing but wait |
| 07:11.01 | jishin | hi, when i run make , the following error is comming out , "missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?)" |
| 07:11.10 | tienchi | gnufan, modprobe snd-ali5451.ko --> FATAL: Module snd_ali5451.ko not found. |
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| 07:11.17 | jm_ | jishin: it even tells you what is most likely wrong |
| 07:11.23 | jishin | i run unexpand Makefile , but there's no change |
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| 07:12.15 | R | Hey all |
| 07:12.31 | gnufan | tienchi: the module is in Debian Sarge kernel package "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386" -- either you have bespoke kernel, or you've messed it up and need to reinstall the kernel package. |
| 07:12.51 | R | Is debian stable suitable for enterprise? |
| 07:12.51 | marlun | I've just installed Debian 3.1 and I'm wondering if theres any repository I can add which has some newer packages? Like MySQL 5 for example? |
| 07:12.55 | kevix | R: please state the nature of the medical emergeny..... |
| 07:12.59 | dacer | anyone can help me wit cups? |
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| 07:13.12 | gnufan | tienchi: oops you might not need the ".ko" -- oops |
| 07:13.14 | kevix | R: yes. |
| 07:13.15 | jm_ | marlun: check bacports |
| 07:13.21 | R | kevix, none just poking |
| 07:13.29 | marlun | jm_, where can I find them? =) |
| 07:13.31 | R | I think our new Server will be ... debian :D |
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| 07:13.34 | tienchi | gnufan, let me try |
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| 07:13.57 | bliss1__ | hi |
| 07:14.12 | R | Whats stable gnome? |
| 07:14.29 | gnufan | marlun: these days "Etch" is probably the best place to get MySQL 5, but I use dotdeb at work. |
| 07:14.37 | tienchi | gnufan, i have to restart the machine now? |
| 07:14.38 | jm_ | marlun: /msg dpkg backports |
| 07:14.38 | kevix | marlun: debian has 3 streams of software. if you are using 'stable' aka sarge aka 3.1 and you are sure that the 'stable' or 'sarge' repos are not useful for you, you can use the unoffical 'backport.org' repo. |
| 07:14.39 | gnufan | !tell marlun about dotdeb |
| 07:15.21 | marlun | thanks |
| 07:15.35 | kevix | tienchi: in Gnu/linux you only need to reboot for new kernels or new hardware (we are not like windows x-)) |
| 07:15.39 | gnufan | tienchi: ?? wouldn't think a restart is needed, did the module insert? |
| 07:16.30 | tienchi | gnufan, yes; |
| 07:16.44 | tienchi | Kevix, hehehe .. that's good .. |
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| 07:17.23 | gnufan | tienchi: do you have sound? How are you trying to play sound (GNOME/KDE/console), and which application? |
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| 07:17.48 | tienchi | Kevin`, gnufan , no sound.. i can not ajust the volumen still |
| 07:18.21 | bliss1__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.27 | gnufan | tienchi: you might need to force the module to load on reboots if it solves your problem, I'd expect it to be loaded automatically if it was needed, but you might need some packages to persuade it to do it automatically. |
| 07:19.24 | marlun | I could also just install them using source-code... |
| 07:19.24 | tienchi | gnufan, how to force the module to load on reboots??? |
| 07:19.50 | gnufan | tienchi: worry about that if/when it is working ;) |
| 07:20.03 | kevix | tienchi: edit the /etc/modules file. |
| 07:20.06 | Chob | anybody using a 3ware raid controler ? |
| 07:20.35 | gnufan | tienchi: what desktop are you using? Where are you trying to adjust volume? |
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| 07:21.21 | fg | how does auto kernel upgrade in debian work |
| 07:21.32 | fg | any howto/help page |
| 07:21.34 | tienchi | gnufan, kevix, it's gnome; i am try to adjust volume from the volume control |
| 07:21.42 | kevix | fg: apt-get install ..... |
| 07:21.52 | liable | grrr, goddam xorg |
| 07:22.06 | kevix | fg: the kernel is not set to auto install as it affect many things. |
| 07:22.08 | bliss1__ | liable: how's it going |
| 07:22.08 | fg | is it possible to customize the kernel if using apt-get |
| 07:22.14 | gnufan | tienchi: probably easiest with GNOME to logout, and login again. The GNOME sound stuff is reinitialised when you login to GNOME. |
| 07:22.16 | jm_ | liable__: aren't you using x.org now too? :) |
| 07:22.21 | liable | bliss1__: terrible! |
| 07:22.34 | liable | jm_: heh, plain old console for me! |
| 07:22.38 | bliss1__ | liable; o whats the prob |
| 07:22.46 | liable | bliss1__: xorg fuckage |
| 07:22.47 | fg | so what's recommended, upgrade kernel manually? |
| 07:22.48 | kevix | fg: yes. apt-get install newbiedoc |
| 07:23.11 | tienchi | gnufan, good. let me have a try. i will come back soon |
| 07:23.12 | bliss1__ | liable: have a coffee make you feel better |
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| 07:23.29 | liable | bliss1__: having a beer.. coffe wont do the trick :) |
| 07:23.33 | kevix | fg: you do 'apt-cache search linux-kernel' and see which one you want. |
| 07:23.36 | jm_ | liable: nothing obvious in the logfile? |
| 07:23.46 | streuner_ | liable: what version of libc6? |
| 07:23.51 | bliss1__ | liable: yee and something else chill man |
| 07:23.55 | gnufan | fg: what are you actually trying to achieve? If you install Debian stock kernels they automatically update when security vulnerabilities are fixed, but you need to reboot after such an upgrade. |
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| 07:24.25 | bliss1__ | liable: for what its worth happy easter |
| 07:24.57 | kevix | bliss1__: and a happy passover too! |
| 07:25.17 | bliss1__ | kevix: yep thats the one |
| 07:25.29 | liable | jm_: casically, i cant seem to get dpkg to reconfigure it, even though i have removed and touched xorg.conf, then md5summed it. though i think i am missing the new xorg md5sums |
| 07:25.33 | liable | bliss1__: thanks |
| 07:25.46 | liable | streuner_: whatver sids is atm |
| 07:25.54 | streuner_ | !info libc6 sid |
| 07:25.56 | bliss1__ | liable: I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325 |
| 07:26.07 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-6 (sid), Packaged size: 4620 kB, Installed size: 11164 kB |
| 07:26.20 | mortal__ | !info xserver-xorg sid |
| 07:26.23 | liable | bliss1__: i am a bit busy with problems of my own at the moment :) |
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| 07:26.35 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.10 (sid), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 464 kB |
| 07:26.36 | bliss1__ | liable; i understand |
| 07:27.00 | bliss1__ | dpkg: hi ,care to take a look |
| 07:27.00 | pau4o | !info xserver-xorg sid |
| 07:27.03 | neoxan | mh, i just tried to play enemy territory with my debian install, but i have no sound (gnome) what do i have to do? :D |
| 07:27.16 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.10 (sid), Packaged size: 122 kB, Installed size: 464 kB |
| 07:27.18 | jm_ | liable: even with dpkg-reconfigure --force? -plow? DEBCONF_DEBUG might shed some light on the issue |
| 07:27.29 | liable | jm_: i actually had to link the old xorg md5sums to the new dir to even get xserver-xorg to install properly |
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| 07:27.59 | kevix | liable: its odd that I have been installing the xorg from experimental with (almost) no problem. makes me want to avoid the 'sid' upgrade x-( |
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| 07:28.39 | liable | kevix: strangely, i dont think many people have had this error. or, not many people have customised xorg confs. |
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| 07:29.23 | liable | lemme try and find the new md5sums |
| 07:29.40 | neoxan | mh, i just tried to play enemy territory with my debian install, but i have no sound (gnome) what do i have to do? :D |
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| 07:29.46 | streuner_ | liable: md5sums are in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 07:30.06 | bliss1__ | dpkg: I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325 |
| 07:30.06 | dpkg | bliss1__: what are you talking about? |
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| 07:30.18 | liable | streuner_: thanks |
| 07:30.24 | kevix | liable: how about rm xorg.conf, dpkg-reconfigure with any setting, then overrite xorg.conf with backup. |
| 07:30.51 | bliss1__ | dpkg: will not reboot |
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| 07:31.36 | jm_ | liable__: huh, you have issues with package md5sums? I don't think anything other than debsums verifies that |
| 07:32.06 | streuner_ | no, with xorg.conf |
| 07:33.15 | liable | jm_: the xorg.conf.md5sum |
| 07:33.21 | streuner_ | cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom, md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 07:33.38 | simonrvn | kevix: actually, experimental -> sid was painless |
| 07:33.52 | jm_ | liable: right, that makes more sense |
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| 07:40.17 | streuner_ | liable: try this - cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom, md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 07:40.55 | kevix | streuner_: that is what is written inside the xorg.conf file. did he not try that? |
| 07:40.59 | bliss1__ | dpkg: did you see what I am talking about |
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| 07:41.25 | kevix | simonrvn: ok. thanks for the tip. |
| 07:41.27 | streuner_ | kevix: he said, i cannot even run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 07:41.52 | streuner_ | s/i/he/ |
| 07:41.57 | simonrvn | bliss1__: you know, dpkg is a bot |
| 07:42.07 | liable | streuner_: done that a mob of times :) there are actually new mdsums i think. when it installed it was looking in /var/lib/x11/ and i linked to the old ones. |
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| 07:42.23 | bliss1__ | simonrvn: ok well thanks |
| 07:42.32 | kevix | simonrvn: but a good bot! |
| 07:42.44 | simonrvn | yes |
| 07:43.08 | liable | no its whines about no mouse module! |
| 07:43.13 | tienchi | gnufan, i come again; i reboot gnome, it didnt work; then forced to load the module, reboot the machine, but either work; i lsmod, and can see the module snd_ali5451 is listed. |
| 07:43.14 | liable | s/no/now/ |
| 07:43.25 | bliss1__ | kevix; thanks could have here a while waiting |
| 07:43.42 | streuner_ | simonrvn: we don't need new experimental users... |
| 07:44.11 | simonrvn | streuner_: i know, he's already one. i figured it wouldn't hurt |
| 07:44.16 | bliss1__ | kevix: i put the question to the room |
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| 07:44.21 | simonrvn | !room |
| 07:44.21 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 07:44.49 | bliss1__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.23 | vin` | bliss1__: heh, still stuck with that eh? |
| 07:45.24 | streuner_ | liable: *raise my eyebrow* |
| 07:45.47 | streuner_ | liable: what the fuck, so you still aren't able to run dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 07:45.54 | kevix | streuner_: I normally keep a sid system but on rare ocassions I like to see what fun experimental is! maybe even report a bug or two. |
| 07:45.58 | bliss1__ | vin' hiyep but got something in a pastebin |
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| 07:46.47 | bliss1__ | vin' i think it was you who told me about USB legacy disable |
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| 07:47.24 | vin` | bliss1__: yes, which kernel is it? |
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| 07:47.38 | bliss1__ | vin' both are 2.6 |
| 07:47.50 | vin` | bliss1__: which 2.6? |
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| 07:48.23 | kevix | streuner_: the man page for dpkg-reconfigure doesnt mention any 'verbose' or debug options. is there a way to do this? |
| 07:48.35 | simonrvn | -plow |
| 07:48.41 | liable | streuner_: I can run it. if i replace, or touch xorg.conf, then run the md5sums on it, it doesnt update the file. |
| 07:48.47 | simonrvn | and probably some environment variables |
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| 07:49.22 | kevix | simonrvn: -plow -- doesnt that just ask more questions, I was look to see something like 'bash -x script.sh' |
| 07:49.49 | jm_ | kevix: yes, I told liable how |
| 07:50.05 | streuner_ | liable: so it doesn't write the xorg.conf file at all? |
| 07:50.06 | bliss1__ | vin' Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:50.13 | vin` | liable: try this, back xorg.conf, rm, dexconf, !drxx |
| 07:50.20 | simonrvn | yeh it does. might need to run the postinst or preinst manually, with sh -x foo configure |
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| 07:50.34 | liable | if i remove it and just reconfigure it writes it ok. |
| 07:50.59 | streuner_ | so a fuckage of preinst? |
| 07:51.00 | vin` | so you're all set? |
| 07:51.01 | liable | now i have the problem that it doesnt find module mouse.. |
| 07:51.09 | streuner_ | heh |
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| 07:51.23 | streuner_ | load mousedev and psmouse |
| 07:51.27 | cmatheson | is it possible to store/retrieve images in a mysql database from the command-line/openoffice-base/etc? |
| 07:51.27 | streuner_ | by hand |
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| 07:51.39 | vin` | bliss1__: maybe try a newer kernel like 2.6.15 or .16 |
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| 07:52.07 | bliss1__ | vin' thanks |
| 07:52.13 | liable | psmouse already loaded, |
| 07:52.26 | tienchi | gnufan, Kevix, it doest work :( |
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| 07:52.39 | streuner_ | liable: load mousedev too, it doesn't hurd |
| 07:52.41 | kevix | cmatheson: mysql can store 'blob' types. oo.org store docs in xml format. |
| 07:52.42 | jetscreamer | try mousedev |
| 07:52.46 | jetscreamer | nm |
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| 07:53.02 | kevix | tienchi: by 'it' you mean... |
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| 07:53.58 | bliss1__ | vin' trying ti install xen Xen 3.0.1 / XenLinux 2.6.12-xen0 but of course if the system does not reboot then its a waste of time |
| 07:54.37 | tienchi | Kevix, i reboot the gnome, not work; then forced to load the module on reboots, either work; but i can see the snd_ali5451 is loaded by using command lsmod |
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| 07:54.52 | liable | streuner_: compiled in. |
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| 07:55.32 | streuner_ | liable: ok, what happens if you run startx as root? |
| 07:55.55 | liable | heh, thats one thing i havent tried yet :) |
| 07:56.16 | bliss1__ | vin' I think i will ask at forum might get an answer in a week |
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| 07:56.55 | liable | (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0) lsmod |grep mouse psmouse 34440 0 |
| 07:57.29 | vin` | bliss1__: ##xen |
| 07:57.38 | streuner_ | liable: what entry in xorg.conf about? |
| 07:57.46 | cmatheson | kevix: yes, i've read about the blob... is there no way that the openoffice client could extract the blob into a seperate file and use that though (it seems that open-office is able to embed images in a document... so i'm looking for that sort of functionality) |
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| 07:58.02 | bliss1__ | vin' its not a xen problem |
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| 07:58.37 | streuner_ | Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" |
| 07:58.44 | liable | streuner_: driver mouse; device /dev/input/mice; protocol explorerps2 |
| 07:58.59 | zrin | what shall I do with "kernel: Oops: 0000 [1] SMP" and "kernel: CR2: 000000183d36e820" on 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 with AMD X2? |
| 07:59.01 | streuner_ | liable: dude, it cannot load mousedev then |
| 07:59.15 | streuner_ | liable: mousedev is explorerps2 |
| 07:59.27 | liable | mousedev is compiled into the kernel |
| 07:59.34 | streuner_ | we know |
| 07:59.41 | streuner_ | use an official kernel now |
| 07:59.47 | liable | lemme reboot into a debian kernel brb |
| 08:00.15 | streuner_ | zrin: use another kernel? |
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| 08:00.24 | tijn_ | hi all |
| 08:00.34 | jetscreamer | mousedev is what? |
| 08:00.52 | streuner_ | modinfo mousedev |
| 08:01.06 | zrin | streuner_: the same happened with 2.6.15 that I configured myself ... which kernel shall I try? |
| 08:01.27 | kevix | cmatheson: you can paste an image into OO documents. It would seem more do able to in mysql and a script language on the command line. |
| 08:01.34 | streuner_ | mousedev use another protocol (explorerps2) which usually USB mouses work |
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| 08:02.00 | streuner_ | description: Mouse (ExplorerPS/2) device interfaces |
| 08:02.06 | zrin | streuner_: the Oops message gets wall-ed, but there are no other symptoms |
| 08:02.26 | kevix | cmatheson: it seems that you want to mailmerge but with images.... not sure how that works in OO.org |
| 08:02.31 | streuner_ | zrin: kernel oops indicated that the kernel isn't stable |
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| 08:02.35 | tijn_ | erhm is there a way to restore all rights on / ? (yes some idiot chmodded -R /) |
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| 08:02.52 | streuner_ | s/work/use/ |
| 08:03.15 | beetlepun_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:03.41 | kevix | tijn_: I'd save the data files and restore a backup, then restore the data files. |
| 08:03.51 | streuner_ | hm, ok and what do you think, the kernel doesn't need that module then? ;-) |
| 08:03.56 | tijn_ | kevix: yes, thought so |
| 08:04.06 | tijn_ | only the f*cker doesnt have a backup |
| 08:04.36 | streuner_ | otherwise you have to fix the module in order to become stable... |
| 08:04.52 | tijn_ | so, should i try and restore it all manually? or do a new install? |
| 08:04.59 | zrin | beetlepun_: insmod, "kernel: Pid: 7553, comm: insmod Tainted: P 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8-smp #2" |
| 08:05.07 | kevix | tijn_: then save the data and do an install... x-) |
| 08:05.12 | tijn_ | kk |
| 08:05.14 | tijn_ | thnx |
| 08:05.25 | kevix | tijn_: OH. and save your /etc/ or any other settings. |
| 08:05.33 | tijn_ | yes |
| 08:05.42 | kevix | tijn_: and /var if you have any DB files. |
| 08:06.02 | streuner_ | zrin: how many CPU's do you have on that box? |
| 08:06.04 | tijn_ | ok thnx |
| 08:06.05 | kevix | tijn_: and backup x-) |
| 08:06.14 | tijn_ | haha iam so happy its not mine |
| 08:06.18 | zrin | streuner_: 1x AMD Athlon X2 |
| 08:06.24 | zrin | streuner_: dual core |
| 08:06.34 | streuner_ | zrin: and why do you use an SMP kernel? |
| 08:06.41 | kevix | tijn_: you can get a second HD to do nighly backups fast. HD's should be cheap (vs the time to reinstall) |
| 08:06.43 | bliss1__ | streuner_ do you time to take a look at my prob please |
| 08:06.49 | zrin | streuner_: to use both cores? |
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| 08:07.10 | streuner_ | zrin: does this box has 2 CPU's or not? |
| 08:07.20 | tijn_ | kevix: well, i got a spare tapestreamer, i will donate it the them |
| 08:07.39 | streuner_ | !smp |
| 08:07.39 | dpkg | well, smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing |
| 08:07.44 | zrin | streuner_: it has a dual core CPU, it is 2 CPU units on one chip |
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| 08:07.58 | zrin | streuner_: logically 2 CPUs |
| 08:08.01 | streuner_ | is that SMP or not? |
| 08:08.07 | kevix | tijn_: and tell them: think 2 times, type once! |
| 08:08.10 | zrin | streuner_: yes, SMP |
| 08:08.41 | streuner_ | zrin: what kernel did the d-i used? |
| 08:08.49 | streuner_ | SMP too? |
| 08:08.50 | tijn_ | Kevix nha just dont let them use it :) |
| 08:08.52 | zrin | streuner_: the same |
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| 08:09.46 | zrin | streuner_: no, sorry, installer used non-SMP kernel, but that one uses just 1 CPU |
| 08:10.08 | zrin | streuner_: the same kernel version, but non-SMP |
| 08:10.12 | gimppop | hiya! anyone home?! I have an install problem - x86 - amd k6-II (a firewall to be).. I'm trying to put debian stable on it, via a net install, but the install keeps borking with "perl is unconfigured"... what on earth?! |
| 08:10.18 | streuner_ | zrin: and you see any difference (performance)? |
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| 08:11.03 | theturtle | i have a dumb question |
| 08:11.04 | zrin | streuner_: with non-SMP, only 1 CPU is shown in top; with SMP 2 CPUs are shown, kernel initializes both CPUs successfully |
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| 08:11.13 | theturtle | can anyone give me a dumb answer |
| 08:11.15 | theturtle | :| |
| 08:11.26 | gimppop | i'm your man, theturtle ! |
| 08:11.31 | kevix | theturtle: 42! |
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| 08:11.45 | zrin | streuner_: yes (didn't do any measurements, but I see processes being executed on both CPUs in top) |
| 08:12.12 | zrin | streuner_: I mean CPUs being assigned to different processes |
| 08:12.48 | theturtle | when generating a pub/priv key pair for use with ssh, should i use DSA or RSA? |
| 08:13.13 | theturtle | thats my dumb question :\ |
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| 08:13.33 | bliss1__ | streuner_ I cannot use keyboard in sarge without having USB legacy diabled in BIOS as the other os has same kernel as sarge cannot shutdown screen goes blank must start from mains. here is pastebin of bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi http://pastebin.ca/49325 |
| 08:14.13 | gimppop | it doesn't sound very dumb to me, theturtle .. personally i'd choose DSA.. but who knows. |
| 08:14.53 | theturtle | ya perhaps ur right, some guides say rsa, but this ibm howto i'm reading says dsa is used for ssh2 as rsa is for ssh1 |
| 08:15.45 | gimppop | there's your answer then.. the debian installer warns against using ssh1.. |
| 08:15.54 | theturtle | installer? |
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| 08:16.00 | gimppop | plump for dsa, you won't be sorry, theturtle ! |
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| 08:16.39 | gimppop | yeah, if you choose to install sshd, the debian stable installer recommends ssh2 |
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| 08:16.49 | theturtle | oh i gotcha |
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| 08:17.58 | theturtle | only thing i'm not sure of on setting up this type of authentication for ssh, is, if i set it up, can i still login using password authentication if i don't have my key handy ? :\ |
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| 08:19.08 | Phated | theturtle: If you allow password login, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. |
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| 08:19.15 | zrin | which forum is appropriate for posting amd64 SMP Oops? |
| 08:19.49 | fg | ok, what has changed in iptables or the kernel recently - nat/masq doesn't work |
| 08:19.50 | streuner_ | zrin: try #debian-amd64 or the ML for it |
| 08:20.05 | zrin | streuner_: thank you |
| 08:20.23 | gimppop | goodnite |
| 08:20.34 | fg | unmodified .config for 2.6.16.5 doesn't have anything about NAT in it? |
| 08:21.30 | bliss1__ | streuner_ please take a look at my post if you have a sec |
| 08:22.14 | streuner_ | bliss1__: sorry, but i cannot help you, post the question a little later in the channel... |
| 08:22.27 | streuner_ | !repeat |
| 08:22.27 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 08:22.44 | bliss1__ | streuner_ ok thanks will do |
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| 08:23.00 | power1 | can someone shed some light on this, I have the " .Maildir " in "/etc/skel" and when I create the user the Maildir is created with the right permissions in the users home directory. In /etc/postfix/main.cf i have the following "home_mailbox = .Maildir/ " but postfix still wants to find the Maildir without the hidden " . " in front of it, if i unhide the Maildir then it works ...any ideas? |
| 08:23.21 | bliss1__ | dpkg: but i have had prob for almost a week |
| 08:23.39 | simonrvn | ffs, i told you not so long ago that it's a bot |
| 08:23.40 | streuner_ | dpkg, what are you? |
| 08:23.40 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 08:24.43 | bliss1__ | streuner_ the day of the bot;s has arrivesbut a nice bot |
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| 08:25.24 | fg | was netfilter replaced by something recently? |
| 08:25.25 | simonrvn | !ua |
| 08:25.36 | fg | for general network config stuff |
| 08:25.44 | fg | i mean, iptables |
| 08:25.47 | valdyn | fg: no, but the configuration options changed, you will have to reconfigure your custom kernel |
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| 08:25.58 | simonrvn | !ua is <reply>Ukraine - ua ukr 804 |
| 08:25.59 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 08:26.07 | liable | heh, that was fun. 2.6.16-1 kernel panicked, the etch cd rescue mode baulks whilst using vim. my lilo.conf was good, 2.6.15 boots, same "module mouse doesnt exist" error, then my wifi card modules had been purged somewhere along the line.. |
| 08:26.09 | simonrvn | fg: no |
| 08:26.31 | theturtle | this is j ust weird, it seems everytime I set a custom $PATH in ~/.bash_profile every day or so i login again and its not there |
| 08:26.39 | theturtle | does something overwrite this file or something :D |
| 08:26.39 | liable | streuner_: same error with a debian kernel |
| 08:26.47 | fg | i can't find iptables/NAT options in kernel for the life of me |
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| 08:27.06 | simonrvn | i can't even boot 2.6.16 on my ppcs, the aicXXX driver is buggered |
| 08:27.17 | valdyn | fg: use a debian kernel if you are incapable of configuring your ow |
| 08:27.18 | valdyn | fg: use a debian kernel if you are incapable of configuring your own |
| 08:27.25 | simonrvn | theturtle: no |
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| 08:27.42 | liable | simonrvn: but you have x! :) |
| 08:27.45 | theturtle | weird |
| 08:27.56 | streuner_ | liable: was the mousedev module loaded? |
| 08:27.57 | jm_ | liable__: that's probably refering to mouse_drv |
| 08:28.02 | simonrvn | on the x86. i run the ppcs headless 95%+ |
| 08:28.29 | ongeboren | humm, any issues with xorg and the latest nvidia driver ? it refuses to work on my pc :> |
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| 08:28.52 | ongeboren | xorg 7.0 |
| 08:28.58 | valdyn | ongeboren: which nvidia installer? |
| 08:29.05 | ratel | hi, I wonder with the 7.x version from xorg everything is installed in /usr/bin is that going to stay or will it again change to /usr/X11R6/bin? |
| 08:29.07 | liable | streuner_: fuck. i didnt even check. i fail to see how this is a kernel error though seeing as module mouse is there for xorg-6.9. |
| 08:29.13 | valdyn | ratel: wont |
| 08:29.15 | ongeboren | valdyn, their own installer |
| 08:29.19 | simonrvn | ratel: no. that was intentional |
| 08:29.25 | valdyn | ongeboren: right, that is broken for xorg7 |
| 08:29.25 | ratel | oki thnx |
| 08:29.38 | ongeboren | valdyn, any suggestions ? |
| 08:29.47 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 08:29.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 08:29.52 | streuner_ | liable: if that is a bug in a X package we are fucked anyway, as jm_ mentioned |
| 08:30.34 | streuner_ | liable: what's about the kernel panic, did you use intrdramtools or yaird? |
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| 08:30.43 | liable | streuner_: well, i am fucked, i havent found any bugs relating to this. |
| 08:30.51 | deadcat | nvidia installs fine on my x86 with xorg 7.0 |
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| 08:30.54 | streuner_ | liable: of course not |
| 08:30.56 | ongeboren | valdyn, that would be an nvidia driver bundled from debian itself ? |
| 08:31.03 | valdyn | ongeboren: yes |
| 08:31.06 | ratel | ongeboren: copy de module in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules to /usr/lib/modules or something...look at 6.x package and see that the directory structure had changed.... |
| 08:31.26 | liable | streuner_: i didnt go down the kernel path, the 2.6.15 booted and i just wanted to see if i had the same x error. i will look into that later |
| 08:31.32 | jm_ | liable: did you try debugging debconf stuff? |
| 08:31.41 | deadcat | my fonts and cursor are broken right now. but i bet the next release will fix those |
| 08:31.44 | valdyn | ongeboren: using vendor installers is not recommended, nor is messing with package files as ratel suggest, but that works too |
| 08:31.47 | liable | jm_: no. what was it you said before? |
| 08:32.00 | jm_ | liable: man 7 debconf will tell you environment vars it honours |
| 08:32.05 | liable | ta |
| 08:32.54 | ongeboren | valdyn, i see, but the debian package for nvidia worked only for stable some years ago, so I started using their own installer, which worked up to now :> |
| 08:32.58 | jm_ | liable: 7.0 still has dexconf according to dpkg |
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| 08:33.50 | streuner_ | x11-common: /usr/bin/dexconf |
| 08:33.59 | streuner_ | knusper:/var/lib/dpkg/info# dpkg -S /usr/bin/dexconf |
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| 08:35.03 | jm_ | streuner_: so it's not in xserver-common? |
| 08:35.06 | streuner_ | x11-common 7.0.10 X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure |
| 08:35.17 | jm_ | wtf, why is dpkg shwing it wrong then |
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| 08:35.57 | valdyn | jm_: dpkg is not updated in realtime, see packages.debian.org ( which seems to be used by dpkg ) |
| 08:36.08 | streuner_ | my system either... |
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| 08:36.25 | streuner_ | e2fslibs e2fsprogs ecj-bootstrap fontconfig hpijs libblkid1 libc6 libc6-dev |
| 08:36.25 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.25 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:36.40 | streuner_ | these are the packages which aren't up-to-date |
| 08:36.52 | ongeboren | lets see if the ugly fix works :) |
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| 08:37.26 | streuner_ | so i would guess valdyn is right |
| 08:37.57 | jm_ | valdyn: so you're saying when it says "Updating debian files... please wait" and you wait it doesn't really update? then they must have changed this since the time I was running blootbot |
| 08:38.09 | valdyn | jm_: yea, probably |
| 08:38.18 | valdyn | jm_: xserver-common does not even exist in sid now |
| 08:38.30 | valdyn | !info xserver-common sid |
| 08:38.46 | jm_ | valdyn: that's why I was wondering |
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| 08:38.52 | dpkg | xserver-common: (files and utilities common to all X servers), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB |
| 08:38.57 | valdyn | q.e.d. |
| 08:39.12 | streuner_ | yep, its not anymore in 7.0 |
| 08:39.30 | usn | hi folx |
| 08:39.33 | jm_ | either way, that's probably not even called in liable's case |
| 08:39.47 | valdyn | jm_: dpkg might be 'really' updating, but its source ( p.d.o ) defenitely does not |
| 08:39.52 | streuner_ | why it doesn't load the mouse module then? |
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| 08:40.22 | streuner_ | as i said before, if the package is fucked we cannot help much then |
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| 08:40.44 | power1 | can someone shed some light on this, I have the " .Maildir " in "/etc/skel" and when I create the user the Maildir is created with the right permissions in the users home directory. In /etc/postfix/main.cf i have the following "home_mailbox = .Maildir/ " but postfix still wants to find the Maildir without the hidden " . " in front of it, if i unhide the Maildir then it works ...any ideas? |
| 08:40.51 | liable | fucks sake.. xserver-xorg-input-mouse |
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| 08:41.03 | jm_ | valdyn: ok so that has changed then, back then blootbot would actualyl fetch Packages.gz and Contents* file from Debian mirrors |
| 08:41.11 | valdyn | jm_: I see |
| 08:41.30 | vin` | liable: install the 'xorg' package, that should pull in stuff that is missing. |
| 08:41.42 | streuner_ | liable: ii xserver-xorg-i 1.0.4-2 X.Org X server -- mouse input driver |
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| 08:42.30 | jm_ | hehe so it's a matter of being really split up :) |
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| 08:42.47 | jm_ | liable__: so it was mosue_drv that is missing eh? |
| 08:42.50 | jm_ | mouse |
| 08:43.02 | deadcat | sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png <-- can someone tell me why the hilighted section doesnt look like the section with the happy face? they used to all look like the happy face section |
| 08:43.11 | streuner_ | heh, we thought (of couse) you have all packages installed |
| 08:43.46 | liable | jm_: apparently |
| 08:44.04 | streuner_ | liable: slap yourself |
| 08:44.07 | liable | now xdm is being a retard |
| 08:44.12 | jm_ | liable: hopefully these upgrade issues will be sorted when Etch comes out |
| 08:44.17 | streuner_ | get rid of xdm |
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| 08:44.21 | liable | streuner_: why, should upgrading xorg have installed it? |
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| 08:44.33 | streuner_ | liable: of course |
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| 08:44.49 | streuner_ | liable: make sure you don't have xdm installed... |
| 08:44.51 | lewis | what user is /etc/logrotate.d/apache run as? |
| 08:45.04 | lewis | (i.e. what user are the prerotate scripts run as?) |
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| 08:45.10 | valdyn | lewis: root |
| 08:45.15 | jm_ | lewis: why not check cron entry used to start it? |
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| 08:45.35 | lewis | :) |
| 08:45.49 | valdyn | lewis: or who the hell else is allowed to write to apache logfiles other than root on your system |
| 08:46.50 | lewis | point noted. |
| 08:47.06 | liable | streuner_: gimme a sec, more errors.. :) |
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| 08:47.26 | XoR | i would like to install proftpd-mysql from source, and make .deb package before install, how i can do it ??? |
| 08:47.49 | deadcat | XoR: dh_make |
| 08:47.50 | valdyn | XoR: what is wrong with the debian package ? |
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| 08:48.22 | XoR | valdyn: ERROR with installing proftpd-mysql |
| 08:48.50 | valdyn | XoR: so fix the error or give us usable information about fixing it |
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| 08:50.04 | deadcat | someone help with my font please: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png <-- can someone tell me why the hilighted section doesnt look like the section with the happy face? they used to all look like the happy face section |
| 08:50.49 | XoR | valdyn: there is my error => http://xor.rullz.lv/tmp/err.txt |
| 08:50.49 | liable | so obviously no one else has had the problem of not having xserver-xorg-input-mouse pulled in? |
| 08:50.49 | streuner_ | no, not yet |
| 08:51.17 | XoR | valdyn: how i can fix this error ? http://xor.rullz.lv/tmp/err.txt |
| 08:51.17 | TraceGreen | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1, 0), what can i do? |
| 08:51.36 | deadcat | liable: so far i have xserver-xorg-{core,input-kbd,input-mouse,video-nv} |
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| 08:52.54 | vin` | TraceGreen: custom kernel? |
| 08:53.21 | TraceGreen | vin`, what do you mean of custom kernel? which config should i notice? |
| 08:53.36 | deadcat | TraceGreen: uname -r |
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| 08:54.14 | liable | can add xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 08:54.29 | TraceGreen | deadcat, i compiled kernel my self |
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| 08:54.42 | TraceGreen | i use 2.6.11-1-686 |
| 08:54.44 | deadcat | TraceGreen: thats what vin` was asking. |
| 08:54.52 | liable | and xdm seems fuxored too.. :) |
| 08:54.57 | TraceGreen | deadcat, thanks! |
| 08:55.04 | vin` | TraceGreen: that is called a custom kernel, did you build an initrd or take steps to get rid of it? |
| 08:55.33 | liable | deadcat: so you had the mouse error? file a bug? |
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| 08:56.03 | theturtle | there's a scp command |
| 08:56.07 | theturtle | is there a smkdir |
| 08:56.09 | theturtle | :D |
| 08:56.28 | theturtle | something i can run to do a mkdir from local computer wihtout actually loggin in |
| 08:56.28 | liable | theturtle: rsync |
| 08:56.34 | valdyn | XoR: your /etc/apt/sources.list is probably fucked, which debian release are you using? paste your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere |
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| 08:57.23 | TraceGreen | vin`, no, i don't build an initrd. i may try it. thanks. i think i should check some documents first. |
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| 08:58.06 | XoR | valdyn: http://xor.rullz.lv/tmp/sources.list |
| 08:58.15 | vin` | TraceGreen: you don't need an initrd, just compile the root file system related entries static. (not modular) |
| 08:58.44 | valdyn | XoR: run apt-get update ; apt-get -s dist-upgrade , paste the output |
| 08:59.17 | TraceGreen | vin`, does debian's kernel compile it to module? |
| 08:59.35 | vin` | TraceGreen: yes, and you need an initrd with the same config. |
| 08:59.50 | theturtle | not rsync - is there a way to execute commands remotely from a single line locally |
| 09:00.04 | XoR | valdyn: http://xor.rullz.lv/tmp/upd.txt |
| 09:00.06 | deadcat | scp |
| 09:00.18 | deadcat | theturtle: i mean ssh |
| 09:00.18 | TraceGreen | vin`, so, i should recompile my kernel and make root file system related entries as static, that would be ok, am i right? |
| 09:00.23 | vin` | theturtle: if you have scp, then ssh should work fine. |
| 09:00.28 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 09:00.28 | dpkg | i heard simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 09:00.35 | valdyn | !quick sid/sarge mix |
| 09:00.35 | dpkg | hmm... quick sid/sarge mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your sarge lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than sarge |
| 09:00.47 | vin` | TraceGreen: yes. |
| 09:00.56 | valdyn | XoR: you can try the 2nd, just testing/etch for sarge/stable |
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| 09:01.05 | theturtle | ssh creates a shell, i just want to run a command remotely, not actually login and start a new shell, just execute the command and bring me back to local machine |
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| 09:01.27 | deadcat | theturtle: if you know more about ssh, it does more than taht |
| 09:01.46 | XoR | valdyn: i use in testing + some package from unstable! |
| 09:01.52 | TraceGreen | vin`, root file system related, could you please in more detail? |
| 09:02.11 | valdyn | XoR: oh hold, run apt-get install proftpd-mysql right now, first |
| 09:02.13 | Maulkin | theturtle: "ssh maulkin@remote.host ls" will give me a ls of the remote filesystem. Have a look at "man ssh" for mroe info |
| 09:02.41 | vin` | TraceGreen: ext3, IDE drive stuff etc. |
| 09:02.48 | ESPOiG | does neone here find 1337 speak to be rude |
| 09:02.50 | ESPOiG | ? |
| 09:02.57 | deadcat | ESPOiG: no. just stupid |
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| 09:03.01 | ESPOiG | k thx |
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| 09:03.19 | valdyn | XoR: if that gives the same old error, then install proftpd-mysql from unstable |
| 09:03.21 | kevix | ESPOiG: we prefer english. |
| 09:03.23 | deadcat | ESPOiG: that and those fucking myspace comments (= |
| 09:04.20 | valdyn | XoR: your current distro being already mixed can be the reason for testings proftpd-mysql not installing |
| 09:04.32 | deadcat | Maulkin: if i see the creator of myspace. i will cut his left nut |
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| 09:05.03 | ESPOiG | deadcat: well i was just in general speakin like that for instance just shortening my words and apprently it is rude and i got banned from all the #ubuntu channels? |
| 09:05.10 | streuner_ | liable__: so what, does X work now? |
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| 09:05.21 | vin` | deadcat: myspace has just hit the top 10 most visited sites. |
| 09:05.40 | ESPOiG | vin`: wat is it and ill go there to :P |
| 09:05.52 | valdyn | XoR: if you want to maintain a testing system with unstable software on it too you should backport each package though |
| 09:05.56 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 09:05.56 | dpkg | from memory, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 09:06.06 | deadcat | vin`: i guess so. like 98% of the students in my school has an account. thats all i see at the library computers. damn.. |
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| 09:06.25 | Maulkin | deadcat: Nah, he's a very clever man who's gonna make a small fortune. So we'll simply hold him to randsom. (oh, for extra Etchelon warnings: Bush, Bomb, Allah, Plane, Terrorism) |
| 09:06.42 | vin` | Maulkin: heh |
| 09:06.45 | XoR | valdyn: tnx! |
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| 09:07.30 | Maulkin | ESPOiG: see http://usrbinw00t.keenspace.com/comics/20021217.gif |
| 09:07.34 | kevix | deadcat: that is one site I'd like to see filtered at my libraray as opposed to boingboing.net |
| 09:07.54 | deadcat | no clue what that is either. |
| 09:08.04 | deadcat | and i dont want to know (= |
| 09:08.05 | ESPOiG | Maulkin: nothing there? |
| 09:08.30 | Maulkin | ESPOiG: damn... |
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| 09:08.46 | Maulkin | ESPOiG: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 09:13.03 | ESPOiG | Maulkin: lol |
| 09:15.07 | TraceGreen | vin`, thanks! at least don't have that error anymore! |
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| 09:16.01 | vin` | TraceGreen: cool. |
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| 09:20.00 | PDani_ | hi |
| 09:20.08 | Chob | is it normal that a dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/bigfile bs=8k count=100000 eats free memory ? |
| 09:20.49 | Chob | deleting /tmp/bigfile then gives back the memory |
| 09:20.57 | beanz | Where are the .patch files for a debian package found? I can't see them. |
| 09:21.40 | PDani_ | i would like to use my cvs repo through ssh, but with password-authentication. i found information with google only about rsa-key based authentication without password usage. could anyone help me in this topic? |
| 09:21.47 | kevix | beanz: do you mean diff files? |
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| 09:22.06 | jm_ | Chob: if you have tmp on tmpfs ... |
| 09:23.08 | beanz | kevix: I mean a .patch file listed in a diff |
| 09:23.12 | Chob | I don't think it is but I also tried it on a raid1 partition as well and same thing |
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| 09:23.35 | beanz | kevix: e.g. "Drop 051-gcc-4.0.patch, fixed differently upstream." |
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| 09:25.11 | kevix | beanz: debian has source packages that include the orig.tgz (the upstream source packages) and the diff(used to make the debian source) |
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| 09:25.49 | beanz | kevix: great, where can I find them? |
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| 09:26.00 | beanz | kevix: somewhere on pdo? |
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| 09:27.05 | kevix | beanz: threre or you can add 'deb-src' entries and apt-src ? to get them. |
| 09:27.24 | vds | hi all I'm having problems after un update of my sid, I cannot install nvidia-glx anymore because depends on a package which doesn't exists, what can I do? tnx! |
| 09:28.08 | TraceGreen | vin`, i found linuxrc in initrd would check /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info, does it mean i should compile cdroom's driver as static in kernel? |
| 09:28.40 | kevix | !dpkg customize |
| 09:28.40 | dpkg | i guess customize is at http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 09:28.57 | theturtle | can i give a user access to modify /proc :D |
| 09:29.14 | kevix | beanz: you way want to look at http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
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| 09:30.44 | TraceGreen | vin`, does cdrom driver means ide driver? sorry, i don't know actually |
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| 09:31.22 | beanz | kevix: I only want to view a patch, I don't want to change anything. the source package doesn't have the patch though, it doesn't seem to have any .patch at all. |
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| 09:34.46 | himmelstrutten | hey, hello! I wonder if there's any photo program that can make a type of playlist for views a lá slideshows? |
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| 09:35.36 | Spliffster | mahlzeit! i am looking for a utility to display log output and xconsole output on the root window of gnome. the text should go below the icons and above the root window's background image. root-tail doesn't work, gDesklets is badly unstable and a ressource hog. any hint (i am using metacity as wm if this matters) |
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| 09:36.25 | kevix | himmelstrutten: most programs take a list of files to show and will show them like xview |
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| 09:36.49 | liable | TraceGreen: well, yes and no. you need your ide driver plus the cdrom one |
| 09:37.06 | himmelstrutten | kevex: So need to make the "playlist" manually? |
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| 09:38.18 | TraceGreen | liable, so, do you mean i should compile my ide driver and my cdrom driver static in my kernel? |
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| 09:39.30 | peterS | TraceGreen: the IDE subsystem has several drivers. there's one for your specific motherboard chipset, one for disks, one for cdroms, and even one for arbitrating between the disk and cdrom drivers for use of the bus |
| 09:39.40 | peterS | TraceGreen: any of them can be kernel modules, built-in or not-built-in |
| 09:39.55 | TraceGreen | peterS, thanks! |
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| 09:41.00 | peterS | TraceGreen: if you plan to use the IDE interface most of the time (like one of your filesystems is on an IDE disk), you may as well save some trouble and compile all those things into the kernel directly. the 'ide-cd' module is not so important, you can always load that later with no trouble. |
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| 09:46.55 | hellangel | morning guys |
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| 09:48.28 | DJ_Stefan0 | ive installed debian with apache using apt-get , ive changed an option in my apache2.conf so i can execute cgi scripts outside the cgi-bin folder, but now it says its forbidden and the file permissions are correct, can u help me out? |
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| 09:48.51 | liable | right. thats enough restarting x! :) |
| 09:48.52 | TraceGreen | Hello, Does Debian kernel contain ndevfs? |
| 09:49.16 | liable | TraceGreen: grep the config?? whatever ndevfs is |
| 09:49.35 | TraceGreen | liable, ok, i don't find, so , ask here. |
| 09:49.58 | PDani_ | which dns-server should i use for cacheing for a small LAN, and store some dns-record about some machine on the LAN? |
| 09:50.10 | DJ_Stefan0 | liable, ive installed debian with apache using apt-get , ive changed an option in my apache2.conf so i can execute cgi scripts outside the cgi-bin folder, but now it says its forbidden and the file permissions are correct, can u help me out? |
| 09:50.20 | hellangel | hey guys :) |
| 09:50.55 | DJ_Stefan0 | http://stefan.servegame.org |
| 09:51.00 | DJ_Stefan0 | see for urself |
| 09:51.01 | hellangel | im pretty new to debian and got a little question... i got xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 - which should have the "radeon" video driver.. but it doesnt have it... and "ati" doesnt work and "vesa" is making problems... any idea how to fix that? |
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| 09:51.37 | liable | DJ_Stefan0: i dont know anything about apache2, but is cg-bin default to allow?? |
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| 09:52.13 | wq | i have a question about nat,can any one help me? |
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| 09:52.56 | DJ_Stefan0 | nah by default u cant execute cgi scripts outside the cgi-bin folder |
| 09:53.13 | Llama | hi all |
| 09:53.27 | Llama | could i create md-raid on unformatted devices ? |
| 09:53.30 | DJ_Stefan0 | ive changed that.. but now im getin forbidden.. and if i try it in the cgi-bin folder i get the same if i change the option back |
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| 09:53.52 | Llama | I do: mdadm --create --chunk=32 --level=raid0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda /dev/sdb and get: mdadm: /dev/sda does not appear to be an md device |
| 09:53.57 | peterS | Llama: what do you mean by 'unformatted'? I recommend you partition the drives first. you can use a single partition if you want |
| 09:54.00 | liable | DJ_Stefan0: why not alias the cgi-bin? |
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| 09:54.15 | peterS | Llama: the single partition should be labeled as type FD, which means linux raid |
| 09:54.40 | Llama | peterS, yes, I know. So there are now way to create raid without partiotns, true ? |
| 09:54.44 | DJ_Stefan0 | i wanted my scripts outside the cgi-bin folder so people wouldnt guess where they are on the webserver.. |
| 09:54.45 | clausen | Hey I have set up a courier mail server, it works fine.. But when I try to send a mail to a hotmail account it does not it revieve it.. It works with other accounts.. someone who can tell me why ? |
| 09:54.49 | DJ_Stefan0 | lol |
| 09:55.10 | peterS | Llama: it may be possible, but it is likely to confuse certain tools and OSes. much simpler to use a partition. |
| 09:55.55 | sven | my xorg gives me the error "could not open default font 'fixed'"; what can i do? |
| 09:56.08 | Llama | peterS, how could I do this without partitiong (I inderstand that partitioning is better) |
| 09:56.19 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: have you configured Options +ExecCG |
| 09:56.22 | peterS | sven: any questions related to xorg in unstable right now will probably get the answer "it's broken, wait a couple weeks and things may be less crazy" |
| 09:56.30 | peterS | Llama: I recommend that you create partitions |
| 09:56.34 | Spliffster | ... +ExceCGI in the directory part |
| 09:56.38 | sven | peterS, a thanks ;) |
| 09:56.42 | Maulkin | clausen: Sounds like a problem with hotmail |
| 09:56.51 | peterS | Llama: if you refuse to listen to me, you can figure it out yourself. I don't know how to do it, I would have to look it up, so I'd rather have *you* look it up instead |
| 09:57.22 | liable | sven: you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 09:57.31 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: if it isn't fixed .. .can you paste you apache config to the pastebin ? |
| 09:57.34 | DJ_Stefan0 | no i havent.. thanx Spliffster thats it |
| 09:57.40 | peterS | sven: specifically Debian unstable is moving to xorg 7.0, which means moving from X11R6, which was released in 1994, to X11R7. this breaks all kinds of odd things |
| 09:57.44 | clausen | Maulkin: okay, just so many people who have hotmail, so not too smart than I cant write messages to them ;D |
| 09:57.44 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: yw |
| 09:57.55 | DJ_Stefan0 | i was lookin for that part of the config file |
| 09:58.06 | Maulkin | clausen: Well, we can't really help without a error message, for example |
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| 09:58.26 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: for a test: Options All, but this is not a recommended config for running cgis! |
| 09:58.36 | Llama | peterS, I create primary partition with type FD on both devices. I do: mdadm --create --chunk=32 --level=raid0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 And get: mdadm: /dev/sda1 does not appear to be an md device |
| 09:58.43 | Llama | fdisk -l |grep raid |
| 09:58.43 | Llama | /dev/sda1 1 20023 160834716 fd Linux raid autodetect |
| 09:58.43 | Llama | /dev/sdb1 1 20023 160834716 fd Linux raid autodetect |
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| 09:59.04 | clausen | Maulkin, : in the log file it says: ,status: success |
| 09:59.08 | sven | liable, didnt word ;/ |
| 09:59.14 | Maulkin | clausen: So it worked? |
| 09:59.17 | sven | work not word |
| 09:59.20 | peterS | Llama: don't flood the channel please. I don't know why it would say that, though |
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| 09:59.25 | cryndes | hi |
| 09:59.29 | Spliffster | high |
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| 09:59.48 | cryndes | whats wrong /dev/sda no such file or directory? .. the kernel modules are compiled in... |
| 09:59.53 | clausen | Maulkin, Well I gues so, but my hotmail account does not retrive the email |
| 10:00.04 | Maulkin | clausen: Checked your junk mail box? |
| 10:00.06 | peterS | Llama: this is probably not your problem, but it's worth checking: does /proc/partitions seem to be up-to-date with the real state of your disks? |
| 10:00.27 | peterS | i.e., does it show sda, sda1, sdb, sdb1, with the correct sizes? |
| 10:00.27 | clausen | Maulkin, ys i have |
| 10:00.31 | DJ_Stefan0 | Spliffster, im new to apache2 in which configuration file should i look for +ExecCG ...im used to http.conf :P |
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| 10:00.40 | Maulkin | clausen: Well, it seems to have worked at this end. Try asking hotmail |
| 10:00.41 | liable | sven: move you old xorg.conf somewhere else and do it again |
| 10:00.52 | tedp | I'm looking at getting more involved with Debian, it looks like the best way is by becoming a DD, which means I need an advocate. Anyone available for that? I'm from Brisbane, Australia (same city as his Highness, aj ;) |
| 10:00.57 | Maulkin | Or just don't email people with hotmail accounts. |
| 10:01.02 | Llama | peterS, yes. |
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| 10:01.15 | Maulkin | tedp: It doesn't quite work like that :) |
| 10:01.22 | peterS | tedp: finding an advocate is easy if you've done some debian work in the past. if you haven't ... it's not so easy. this is not a coincidence |
| 10:01.25 | clausen | Maulkin, just really wierd.. |
| 10:01.28 | tedp | of course |
| 10:01.32 | tedp | i don't claim to be new off the street |
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| 10:01.42 | tedp | i've done bug reporting and contributed code to various projects |
| 10:01.43 | peterS | tedp: well, ask people you've worked with on debian stuff then |
| 10:01.50 | peterS | tedp: don't just ask a channel full of strangers |
| 10:01.52 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: in debina you wantto look in sites-available/default for the default virtual host. the debian config is nicely modularized |
| 10:01.57 | tedp | right |
| 10:02.01 | Spliffster | s/debina/debian/ |
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| 10:02.09 | Maulkin | tedp: It also depends what you want to do. |
| 10:02.14 | liable | has a mexican ring to it :) |
| 10:02.15 | tedp | the NM process is awfully 'tight' (to be polite) |
| 10:02.21 | Maulkin | tedp: Do you want to maintain packages? |
| 10:02.21 | Spliffster | brb |
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| 10:02.40 | tedp | i'd be happy to maintain packages. i've been looking at packaging StepMania recently |
| 10:02.51 | Maulkin | tedp: It's already packaged IIRC :) |
| 10:02.52 | tedp | in fact i've put together a rudimentary package, but I know it's not ready yet |
| 10:03.04 | peterS | judging from the size of the queue of people clamoring to get into debian, there seems no pressing need to make it easier or friendlier |
| 10:03.08 | sven | liable, just again the error |
| 10:03.26 | tedp | Maulkin: not according to my search, unless it's in some non-official repository |
| 10:03.44 | Maulkin | tedp: I'll have a look, I'm sure there was somethign to do with it... |
| 10:04.00 | tedp | peterS: I'd say because people want to help. |
| 10:04.02 | Maulkin | tedp: However, I'd suggest maintaining some packages first, via sponsorship |
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| 10:04.24 | Llama | peterS, thanx for help. raid0 module was not loaded |
| 10:04.25 | tedp | there has been discussion of it some years ago but there were concerns about its freedom. that's since improved |
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| 10:04.35 | peterS | Llama: aha. that could make a difference too (: |
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| 10:04.54 | peterS | well, we have pydance. is stepmania better in some way? |
| 10:05.09 | tedp | i haven't used pydance |
| 10:05.11 | [cze]vitja | is somebody from czech? |
| 10:05.13 | peterS | I must say I don't understand DDR or its many clones |
| 10:05.27 | tedp | though i don't think that's a very convincing reason to leave it out. text editors... anyone? |
| 10:05.27 | Maulkin | tedp: Ahh, that's it. Stepmania has problems with it's graphics IIRC |
| 10:05.34 | liable | sven: the fonts have moved to /usr/share/fonts/X11/ |
| 10:05.45 | tedp | Maulkin: i spoke to upstream, there's a Libre theme in development right now |
| 10:05.53 | Maulkin | tedp: oooh! Brill! |
| 10:05.55 | tedp | and there is plenty of libre content |
| 10:06.02 | tedp | .. which was not the case ~2 years ago |
| 10:06.15 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: found it ? |
| 10:06.31 | peterS | if you can't think of a reason why one package is better than another that's already in the archive, "well we have lots of other useless packages too" is not a terribly good reason |
| 10:06.55 | DJ_Stefan0 | Spliffster, no i dont know where i need to put ExecCG |
| 10:07.15 | DJ_Stefan0 | but if ur refering to the redirection ive commented that line out |
| 10:07.37 | peterS | and yes, I *would* be in favor of reducing the number of text editors in debian, assuming there's reason to believe that users of some of them would be just as happy with one of the more popular alternatives |
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| 10:07.56 | tedp | peterS: I haven't tried pydance so I can't say. |
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| 10:08.06 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: sry .. this was a typo .... it belongs into a Directory directive in the said file .... hold on ... looking up the docs ... can you post you default file into a pastebin ? i don't have a debian system at my fingertips atm ... |
| 10:08.25 | Maulkin | tedp: I'd pop along to #debian-mentors to be honest. Also, have a look at http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html |
| 10:08.28 | peterS | right. well, it was just a question. "we already have this one version of DDR, it seems to be popular and have a lot of features, but I haven't tried it, I wonder if the other one you want to package is better in some way, or if they're about the same" |
| 10:08.39 | tedp | ok well having just started pydance, stepmania seems to have "more" (in many ways) |
| 10:08.48 | tedp | i'll play with it some more |
| 10:08.49 | DJ_Stefan0 | ok hang on |
| 10:08.55 | tedp | Maulkin: cheers |
| 10:08.56 | Maulkin | peterS: stepmania is > pydance |
| 10:09.17 | Maulkin | peterS: It is actually worth having in the archive, is the graphics issue can be resolved |
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| 10:09.27 | Maulkin | *if |
| 10:09.34 | peterS | Maulkin: I wonder if piman would want to orphan pydance if stepmania were there |
| 10:09.35 | tedp | Maulkin: thanks for the support :) |
| 10:10.39 | peterS | tedp: so back to your original question, a new maintainer advocate is supposed to assert "I know this guy, he does good Debian work and would be an asset to the Project". obviously nobody can say that until (a) they know you and (b) they've seen some of your work. |
| 10:10.49 | DJ_Stefan0 | Spliffster, http://192.168.0.3/default thats my file |
| 10:11.17 | Maulkin | Basically, yeah :) |
| 10:11.20 | liable | DJ_Stefan0: um, that wont work |
| 10:11.24 | peterS | now in practice sometimes people get advocated for flimsier reasons like "he seems like a nice and sincere fellow", but that's not how it's supposed to work |
| 10:11.39 | Maulkin | tedp: Have a look at that FAQ. That'll explain a bit more :) |
| 10:12.22 | DJ_Stefan0 | ah i see it now |
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| 10:12.33 | Malagmyr | fiskeboller |
| 10:12.38 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: 192.168.x.x is not routed, therefore not accessible for me ... try this: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 10:12.48 | cahoot | tedp: keep in ming Linus Torvalds was approved just two weeks ago |
| 10:12.49 | tedp | peterS: yep, cheers. Looks like d-mentors is the next step |
| 10:12.54 | DJ_Stefan0 | ah sorry http://stefan.servegame.org/default |
| 10:12.55 | DJ_Stefan0 | my bad |
| 10:12.55 | peterS | right |
| 10:12.58 | DJ_Stefan0 | :$ shame on me |
| 10:13.06 | Spliffster | :) ty |
| 10:13.08 | tedp | ooh |
| 10:13.56 | liable | linus is a DD?? |
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| 10:14.18 | cahoot | liable: as of 060401 |
| 10:14.18 | peterS | I don't know of a DD named Linus |
| 10:14.29 | peterS | except occasionally on 1 April |
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| 10:14.43 | peterS | also, there's no need to be a debian developer just to maintain some favorite package. lots of people maintain packages without the ability to upload them directly. though if you want to get more involved than just keeping one pet package, you will probably want to work toward the point where you are a credible NM candidate |
| 10:14.44 | liable | oh dear.. |
| 10:15.04 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: you may add a new <Directory /path/to/your/web/root/> directive into that virthost ... then add Options +ExecCGI into the directory directive: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#options |
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| 10:15.31 | liable | cahoot: dont worry, i got stung for two this year :) |
| 10:15.37 | peterS | hehe |
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| 10:16.18 | DJ_Stefan0 | thanx |
| 10:16.19 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: or : <Directory /var/www/> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews EcecCGI ... |
| 10:16.42 | liable | i spose you could make that a late third.. :) |
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| 10:16.45 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: if you want to allow all subdirectories of the default webroot to host cgis |
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| 10:18.10 | Spliffster | i need a little help here, i am looking for a tool that can display xconsole and tail on the gnome's root window below the icons and above the background image (transparently) ... gDesklets isn't an option |
| 10:18.25 | PaPyRene0101 | what is the general linux command/program to convert pdf in text or in (which) editable graphics format with a general (which?) linux command/program? (I want to edit the content and republish, not the pdf itself) (or give me an irc channel to ask) |
| 10:19.09 | peterS | PaPyRene0101: there is 'pdftotext' from xpdf-utils |
| 10:19.15 | Spliffster | PaPyRene0101: i have used something with ht://dig ... IIRC it is called soemthing like pdf2text or pdftotext |
| 10:20.06 | Spliffster | PaPyRene0101: it might not be in debians repo and possibly must be compiled from source ... but its a simple utility ... so prolly wont be a hassle |
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| 10:20.33 | peterS | Spliffster: uh, see my answer |
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| 10:21.01 | Spliffster | peterS: oh no ... ty |
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| 10:21.38 | PaPyRene0101 | peterS, Spliffster: ok thanks, gonna try it... |
| 10:21.48 | sdschulze | What's the default way to set up an SSH tunnel in a script? |
| 10:22.10 | Spliffster | ssh -X -n -LNNN:target:NNN |
| 10:22.42 | priscila | how can i print the tty output on another tty using 'script'? |
| 10:22.48 | Spliffster | sdschulze: you might want to use publickey authentication without pw if acceptable securitywise |
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| 10:23.02 | Murphy | hey all |
| 10:23.05 | Spliffster | high |
| 10:23.26 | Murphy | any chance any1 could help me? |
| 10:23.32 | Spliffster | depnds |
| 10:23.35 | Spliffster | :) |
| 10:23.36 | Murphy | ive just installed ubuntu (first time on linux) |
| 10:23.41 | hellangel | Murphy, any chance you ask a question? =) |
| 10:23.43 | Murphy | haha, dont worry; its not sexual |
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| 10:23.47 | Spliffster | any chance you articulate a question :P ? |
| 10:23.52 | Murphy | gah |
| 10:23.55 | sdschulze | OK, seems like -n was the clue, thanks. |
| 10:24.01 | Spliffster | yw |
| 10:24.03 | hellangel | Murphy, topic: "Note: this is NOT #ubuntu |
| 10:24.07 | Murphy | anyway, I've been trying to get rhythmbox working but its being a whore |
| 10:24.37 | Spliffster | Murphy: ubuntu+1 ? it won't ... wait another 10 days and it might ... it's still unstable |
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| 10:24.51 | Murphy | it says 'failed to create the player: couldn't initialize scheduler. did you run gst-register?' |
| 10:25.06 | Spliffster | Murphy: u on dapper drake ? |
| 10:25.07 | Murphy | I'm using 5.10 |
| 10:25.18 | Spliffster | Murphy: check #ubuntu |
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| 10:25.28 | Murphy | okie dokie |
| 10:25.44 | Spliffster | Murphy: as a side note ... no wonder it won't work with tha nick ... har har har |
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| 10:26.16 | sdschulze | doesn't work, though... :( |
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| 10:26.45 | Spliffster | sdschulze: what's the problem then .. .still trying to script ssh ? |
| 10:27.14 | sdschulze | yes |
| 10:27.29 | sdschulze | "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal." |
| 10:27.34 | Spliffster | are you running a remote command ? do you have to enter the password interactively ? |
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| 10:27.49 | sdschulze | If I try "cat -", it's quiet, but still doens't work. |
| 10:28.00 | sdschulze | I tried it interactively for now. |
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| 10:28.55 | sdschulze | But it's OK, I can use it without -n. |
| 10:28.59 | Spliffster | sdschulze: the -n option is redirecting stdin to /dev/null ... if your command wants to read from stdin .... you won't have any luck |
| 10:29.17 | Murphy | Uhhh, you know how u reccomended #ubuntu? theres about a billion convos going on and no1 is helping :S |
| 10:30.00 | Shadur | Murphy: This would be one of those problems that we label "not our responsibility" |
| 10:30.03 | Spliffster | Murphy: that's ubuntu ... nice distro, not so knowledgeable community |
| 10:30.15 | Shadur | ~tell Murphy about ubuntu |
| 10:30.32 | Murphy | oh ok |
| 10:30.34 | Spliffster | sdschulze: you might also try: ssh options command &, or event nohup ssh options command & |
| 10:30.44 | Spliffster | s/event/even/ |
| 10:30.45 | Murphy | ah well |
| 10:30.48 | Murphy | thanks anyway |
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| 10:31.18 | Spliffster | Murphy: your problem is ubuntu specific ... debian users can't help here ... you might go to launchpad and file a bug ? |
| 10:31.20 | Shadur | Ah, that's the one I was looking for. |
| 10:31.31 | Spliffster | Murphy: or check in launchpad if this bug is already known |
| 10:31.35 | Murphy | thanks Spliffster |
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| 10:32.01 | Spliffster | Murphy: jw |
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| 10:33.35 | Spliffster | sdschulze: i just read that the -f option is what you might want to use, check man ssh |
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| 10:34.28 | POVaddct | sdschulze: use public key auth with ssh and check the autossh tool |
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| 10:36.23 | Spliffster | POVaddct: autossh looks nice, ty for the hint |
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| 10:42.31 | eduard | Hello |
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| 10:42.50 | ngaro | Debian loads a lot of modules that i don't need but i can't find a file that tells it to load this modules. I already commented out the ones /etc/modules |
| 10:42.51 | eduard | how can i find where libxml2 is installed |
| 10:43.11 | eduard | on my ubuntu system |
| 10:44.48 | jm_ | ngaro: "/msg dpkg blacklist" might help |
| 10:44.52 | jm_ | eduard: try #ubuntu |
| 10:45.19 | ngaro | eduard: dpkg -L |
| 10:45.38 | berzerka | eduard: aptitude show libxml2 |
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| 10:47.47 | ngaro | jm_: any idea about how i can turn off hotplug and discover ? |
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| 10:49.08 | dnipro | Hello |
| 10:49.15 | jm_ | ngaro: uninstall them if you don't need them, but beware, some things depend on them |
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| 10:49.19 | dnipro | I just upgrade my sarge to etch |
| 10:49.39 | dnipro | And I have a streng error at startx |
| 10:50.10 | dnipro | xf86OpensSerial : cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device |
| 10:50.21 | dnipro | anybody have an idea ? |
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| 10:52.33 | ngaro | jm_: or in other words : touch me and die... :) |
| 10:52.37 | liable | grr. my screen blanking script doesnt work now. |
| 10:53.05 | jm_ | ngaro: well I am not using them, but I also don't use stuff like GNOME or KDE |
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| 10:54.22 | jm_ | ngaro: I do use hotplug at home to mount my USB drive, but there I use custom kernel, so it doesn't have the chance to load all those modules *g* |
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| 10:55.47 | liable | dnipro: what king of mouse do you have? |
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| 10:58.51 | pigor_ | hello. where can i find a irc channel for gnuplot? |
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| 10:59.05 | dnipro | (12:49:16) dnipro: I just upgrade my sarge to etch |
| 10:59.05 | dnipro | (12:49:36) dnipro: And I have a streng error at startx |
| 10:59.05 | dnipro | (12:50:07) dnipro: xf86OpensSerial : cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device |
| 10:59.05 | dnipro | (12:50:18) dnipro: anybody have an idea ? |
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| 10:59.27 | pnm | hullo |
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| 10:59.31 | Usiu | Hi |
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| 11:00.00 | pnm | anyone know if there's a good way to make certain usb mass storage devices mount at specific mountpoints? |
| 11:00.19 | pnm | e.g. have a camera mount at /media/camera and an mp3 player mount at /media/mp3player |
| 11:00.19 | petemc | pnm: the usbmount package |
| 11:00.30 | pnm | petemc: ah, thanks |
| 11:00.31 | Usiu | pngwn, yes |
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| 11:00.59 | Usiu | Why alternative mouse cursors doesnt work with new xorg ? A bug ? |
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| 11:04.06 | DJ_Stefan0 | Spliffster, http://stefan.servegame.org/default isnt this ment to work? ive just changed it.. and try the scripts for urself |
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| 11:04.39 | DJ_Stefan0 | Internal Server Error |
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| 11:04.54 | dnipro | anybody have etch ? |
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| 11:06.19 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: if the file is in /var/www yes it should ... if a symlink is inbetween then it might not (so if a symlink is pointing outside of /var/www). in some cases the cgi must be executable for the websevrer ... check that too |
| 11:06.28 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: whats the errro ou get ? |
| 11:06.47 | dnipro | OK As here there is nobody, I am going to eat |
| 11:06.57 | dnipro | I will come back later |
| 11:07.00 | Spliffster | am i nobody ? :P |
| 11:07.01 | DJ_Stefan0 | Spliffster, http://stefan.servegame.org/hello.cgi |
| 11:07.21 | DJ_Stefan0 | ah sorry Spliffster its an error with the script |
| 11:07.31 | DJ_Stefan0 | im such a n00b sometimes |
| 11:07.38 | dnipro | is it the right place for xorg problem or for etch |
| 11:07.39 | DJ_Stefan0 | the other scripts work |
| 11:07.41 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: yep, the configuration is now right ... prolly a missing header ? |
| 11:07.44 | DJ_Stefan0 | thank uj |
| 11:07.47 | DJ_Stefan0 | yeh |
| 11:07.51 | Spliffster | DJ_Stefan0: yw |
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| 11:09.53 | PDani_ | bind question: if i have a zone "kstka", how can i set the ip of kstka? |
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| 11:11.27 | vdm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:12.46 | idP | hi |
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| 11:12.56 | idP | howcan I know what servers are up ? |
| 11:13.08 | idP | local servers on my machine |
| 11:13.20 | DJ_Stefan0 | ps -A |
| 11:13.21 | DJ_Stefan0 | :) |
| 11:13.26 | tedp | nmap localhost |
| 11:13.39 | idP | tried ps gave not much |
| 11:13.51 | cahoot | idP: netstat -tupan |
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| 11:14.16 | tedp | or netstat -tl |
| 11:14.34 | cahoot | idP: lsof -i might do also |
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| 11:15.28 | obergandhi | moin |
| 11:15.40 | idP | the earlier gave me only the protocols, and ports |
| 11:16.11 | idP | i know i can figure out what servers working by knowing the ports.. but isnt there a more advanced prog to tell me which is which |
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| 11:16.34 | tazman | just upgraded snmp on a 3.1 with etch deb, snmpd -v is still retruning version 5.1.2, no errors from apt during install of snmp |
| 11:16.56 | quitte | someone please give me a pipe to copy and paste |
| 11:17.09 | Eulex | | |
| 11:17.18 | quitte | thanks |
| 11:17.37 | tedp | isn't it on your keyboard? |
| 11:17.48 | obergandhi | same prob here :-( |
| 11:17.51 | obergandhi | no atl gr |
| 11:17.55 | obergandhi | alt gr |
| 11:17.56 | quitte | settings broke and im too busy to fix it |
| 11:17.57 | tedp | idP: lsof can probably do that, but i don't know the exact options |
| 11:17.58 | clausen | Anyone have an idea why my courier mail server cant send emails to hotmail accounts, but to other mails ? |
| 11:18.17 | tedp | clausen: dig -x <your ip> |
| 11:18.20 | petemc | clausen: courier doesnt log failed deliveries? |
| 11:18.21 | tedp | does it have a reverse DNS name? |
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| 11:18.35 | petemc | tedp: you dont need a ptr record to deliver to hotmail |
| 11:18.43 | tedp | oh, ok |
| 11:18.43 | Murphy | hey! its me again |
| 11:18.54 | Murphy | anyone know where to find help for banshee? |
| 11:19.16 | tedp | perhaps you need a ptr record even if it doesn't match your HELO address? |
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| 11:19.49 | tedp | clausen: do you get a particular response from the hotmail servers, or does mail just disappear? |
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| 11:19.57 | petemc | tedp: no, you probably stand a better chance of having your mail put into the spam inbox, but its not a prerequisite |
| 11:20.03 | clausen | tedp, is say it succededs... no errors |
| 11:20.27 | petemc | clausen: then it was delivered, hotmail must be doing something with it after accepting it |
| 11:20.29 | tedp | not much else i can suggest then |
| 11:20.34 | Murphy | Hello? Can anyone help? Banshee just crashes to desktop with no word of wtf is going on |
| 11:20.37 | abrotman | Murphy: banshee the card or the app ? |
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| 11:20.58 | abrotman | !info banshee sid |
| 11:21.00 | Murphy | abrotman, banshee the ap |
| 11:21.02 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 11:21.02 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 11:21.04 | clausen | petemc, wierd.. |
| 11:21.29 | dpkg | banshee: (Audio Management and Playback application), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.10.9-1 (sid), Packaged size: 818 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB |
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| 11:21.38 | abrotman | checked the BTS? |
| 11:21.44 | petemc | clausen: its not the first time ive heard that complaint, dont know what you can do tho |
| 11:21.45 | Murphy | BTS? |
| 11:21.52 | Murphy | this is my first time on linux |
| 11:21.53 | abrotman | Murphy: aren't you running unstable/sid ? |
| 11:22.11 | Murphy | abrotman, unstable/sid? |
| 11:22.16 | tedp | BTS, Bug Tracking System. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 11:22.17 | _ubuntu | somebody understands a little of usability and can take a look at qdacco? It is in unstable (aptitude install qdacco), if somebody can take a look say it there and i give my mail. Thanks a lot! |
| 11:22.17 | abrotman | !bts |
| 11:22.17 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 11:22.31 | abrotman | _ubuntu: ask #ubuntu ? |
| 11:22.33 | clausen | petemc, boycot hotmail :D hehe |
| 11:22.45 | petemc | clausen: thats one idea :) |
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| 11:23.06 | tedp | clausen: check if your machine is on any major blacklists? |
| 11:23.08 | coywolf | esd is using /dev/dsp, how can I use realplay then? |
| 11:23.10 | tedp | http://www.spamhaus.org/ |
| 11:23.17 | Murphy | hang on |
| 11:23.19 | Murphy | so what am i doing? |
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| 11:23.35 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/banshee .. look for something like yours |
| 11:23.42 | abrotman | Murphy: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does it say ? |
| 11:23.46 | clausen | tedp, how do I do that ? |
| 11:23.57 | hellwolf | How can I verify all deb pkgs as rpm -Va do? |
| 11:24.08 | Murphy | abrotman, it just says its loading and then dissapears |
| 11:24.15 | zms | how to create /dev/loop devices in debian (kernel 2.6 with udev)? |
| 11:24.16 | petemc | clausen: rbls.org |
| 11:24.27 | coywolf | !esd |
| 11:24.27 | dpkg | esd is probably the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 11:24.46 | abrotman | Murphy: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does it say?? |
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| 11:25.51 | Murphy | abrotman, when i run it in terminal it says this: Player Engine `GStreamer Engine' failed init tests... disabling (Could not initialize GStreamer library) |
| 11:25.51 | Murphy | Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object |
| 11:25.51 | Murphy | in [0x0000d] (at /build/buildd/banshee-0.9.7.1+cvs20051004+revertedto0.9.7.1/src/Core.cs:117) Banshee.Core:set_Player (IPlayerEngine value) |
| 11:25.51 | Murphy | in [0x0006c] (at /build/buildd/banshee-0.9.7.1+cvs20051004+revertedto0.9.7.1/src/Core.cs:145) Banshee.Core:.ctor () |
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| 11:25.59 | cahoot | coywolf: no option to tell RP to use esd? |
| 11:26.08 | coywolf | how can I use realplay then? |
| 11:26.14 | clausen | petemc, it says ok |
| 11:26.26 | coywolf | esd is using /dev/dsp, how can I use realplay then? cahoot |
| 11:26.32 | abrotman | isn't banshee a mono music player? |
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| 11:27.27 | Murphy | abrotman, did u get that b4 it kicked me? |
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| 11:27.34 | abrotman | Murphy: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does it say?? |
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| 11:28.13 | ma3x | hey |
| 11:28.20 | coywolf | what is esd for? can I turn it off |
| 11:28.22 | ma3x | wtf I receive from cron this stupid daily warning |
| 11:28.23 | ma3x | http://pastebin.com/659318 |
| 11:29.22 | zms | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.02 | Shadowcat | zms: you don't |
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| 11:31.13 | zms | Shadowcat: but then I only have /dev/loop/0.. I need /dev/loop[0-3] or /dev/loop/[0-3] |
| 11:31.24 | Murphy | abrotman, it says this http://channels.debian.net/paste/2355 |
| 11:31.40 | abrotman | Murphy: please ask #ubuntu |
| 11:31.56 | Shadowcat | zms: the whole point about udev is that you're not supposed to touch /dev |
| 11:32.01 | Shadowcat | try udev.conf or something |
| 11:32.26 | Murphy | abrotman, ok.. |
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| 11:32.56 | zms | Shadowcat: understood. actually I need to convert some files created by dd to look like raw devices. any other workaround? |
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| 11:33.35 | Shadowcat | mount them via loopback? |
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| 11:34.27 | zms | Shadowcat: will try. |
| 11:34.27 | dnipro | I just upgrade etch from sarge and now when i make startx I have xf86OpenSerial : cannot open /dev/input/mice no such device |
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| 11:34.49 | dnipro | So I have a black screen with text |
| 11:34.56 | jm_ | dnipro: is your mouse listed in /proc/bus/input/devices? |
| 11:35.24 | zms | Shadowcat: I wonder if a device w/o a filesystem be mounted? |
| 11:35.27 | dnipro | I don't kown ? |
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| 11:36.27 | Shadowcat | it should |
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| 11:37.22 | Llama | how could I delete software raid without reboot ? |
| 11:37.23 | dnipro | I have a file with information in proc/bus/input/devices and IMPS/2 generic wheel Mouse in name |
| 11:37.53 | dnipro | JM I should be yes |
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| 11:38.35 | zms | Shadowcat: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" (command: "mount -o loop /d01/app/oracle/oradata/orcl/asmdisks/_disk0 _asmdisk0/") |
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| 11:38.55 | jm_ | dnipro: does that match your mouse? |
| 11:39.08 | dnipro | I am The only one using etch ? |
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| 11:39.39 | liviud | i've just updated my xorg in debian, and i can't seem to be able to switch to other ttys via ctrl+alt+f1-7 |
| 11:39.52 | jm_ | liviud: read the topic |
| 11:40.31 | dnipro | My xorg is 6.9 is it also unstable ? |
| 11:40.37 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:41.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 11:41.53 | liviud | jm_: thanks dude, you saved my day |
| 11:42.08 | liviud | brb |
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| 11:42.39 | banan | hello |
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| 11:44.24 | banan | how do I add another address to lo - like "ifconfig lo:stunnel 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" in /etc/interfaces ? |
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| 11:44.59 | dnipro | Shal I use a specific kernel for xorg ? |
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| 11:45.24 | dnipro | I am using 2.6.8 |
| 11:45.26 | tarzeau | dnipro: doesn't matgter |
| 11:45.45 | tarzeau | dnipro: i'm using 2.6.16.1 though for the SATA drivers |
| 11:46.27 | dnipro | Is it a bug or a misconfiguration ? |
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| 11:47.33 | coywolf | !POS |
| 11:47.34 | dpkg | from memory, pos is defined as Piece Of Shit. or Point of Sale |
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| 11:48.33 | kuvkir | folks, has anybody experience with jffs2? |
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| 11:48.53 | abrotman | no .. but jiffy is good |
| 11:49.09 | banan | got it... |
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| 11:56.43 | gnufan | Banan you should leave that ifconfig well alone, and use "ip" for this sort of thing. |
| 11:57.59 | nipa | hi i have a problem with xorg 7.0, that is i can't install the old nvidia driver (7167) anymore because it somehow just creats kernel modules and no x-modules |
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| 11:58.04 | banan | gnufan yes, I thought it was the easiest way to explain what I wanted. It turned out that i had a typo in /etc/interfaces seems to work ok now |
| 11:58.30 | nipa | it works all fine with the new nvidia driver though, but i need the old version because i have a full screen mode problem on vmware otherwise |
| 11:58.49 | valdyn | nipa: the X modules are just in the wrong directory, they are there |
| 11:59.07 | nipa | valdyn: well the old one just makes a .ko file |
| 11:59.14 | paulliu | Is there any 3D acceleration card which doesn't need non-free section drivers? |
| 11:59.17 | nipa | but it somehow needs a .so right? |
| 11:59.31 | valdyn | nipa: that is a kernel module, its _not_ 'made' by the nvidia-glx package |
| 11:59.35 | nipa | i tried to move the .ko to the right directory |
| 11:59.57 | valdyn | nipa: who said that the kernel module was in the wrong directory? |
| 12:00.07 | valdyn | nipa: nvidia_drv.o |
| 12:00.24 | nipa | oh this is being created by the old version too? |
| 12:00.30 | nipa | in which directory? |
| 12:00.32 | valdyn | nipa: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o needs to be in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ |
| 12:00.45 | nipa | ah ok thanks a lot |
| 12:00.49 | tarzeau | paulliu: no |
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| 12:01.00 | phretor | hi ther |
| 12:01.14 | paulliu | tarzeau: no? it shocks me.... |
| 12:01.16 | banan | yo |
| 12:01.22 | tarzeau | paulliu: it has been like that for years |
| 12:01.27 | valdyn | paulliu: intel chipset and old ATI cards |
| 12:01.29 | tarzeau | paulliu: so? |
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| 12:01.43 | tarzeau | valdyn: the old ati cards are agp, and won't work with the new pci-x/pci-e |
| 12:01.45 | overrider | what is a good argument to choose debian over ubuntu? |
| 12:01.53 | tarzeau | valdyn: and the intel ones? too slow |
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| 12:02.13 | valdyn | tarzeau: i didnt see pcie in his question |
| 12:02.25 | phretor | Gnome's HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is fighting with ACPID: ACPID simply doesn't start up because someone (I think HAL) is accessing /proc/acpi/event - any suggestion? |
| 12:02.38 | flosch | hi |
| 12:02.49 | valdyn | phretor: its not X that does that? |
| 12:03.10 | valdyn | phretor: fuser /proc/acpi/event |
| 12:03.22 | paulliu | valdyn: how about ppracer (tuxracer)? |
| 12:03.36 | valdyn | paulliu: what about it? |
| 12:03.48 | PSG|Tartiflette | I have this error when i start LDAP "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1" nobody know where is my problem ? |
| 12:03.53 | paulliu | valdyn: in old Intel and ATI cards... |
| 12:04.02 | valdyn | paulliu: sure it would be fast enough |
| 12:04.15 | valdyn | paulliu: i said old ATI, not old Intel |
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| 12:04.27 | JohnDoe | If a package depends on a basepackage like hotplug, then will that package still list hotplug in it's dependencies ? (In other words, how much trouble will i get by removing hotplug and inserting the modules manually) |
| 12:04.36 | paulliu | valdyn: I see, thanks.. |
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| 12:04.51 | jm_ | JohnDoh: yes, notice how they depend on libc6? |
| 12:05.15 | valdyn | paulliu: that game does not require more performance than any 3-5 year old computer has.. |
| 12:06.15 | JohnDoe | thanks |
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| 12:06.32 | jm_ | as for removing hotplug, what if this package uses it for purposes other than loading modules? |
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| 12:09.13 | phretor | valdyn: it's /usr/lib/hald-addon-acpi |
| 12:09.28 | tazman | I don't see net-snmp-config user in the etch snmp package? ver 5.2.2 |
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| 12:10.26 | dnipro | I don't know what to do |
| 12:10.39 | Spliffster | so it wasn't you - shaggy |
| 12:10.40 | dnipro | Second day without graphical screen |
| 12:10.56 | dnipro | Anybody can help me ? |
| 12:11.18 | tazman | what do you have in the log files for errors? |
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| 12:11.33 | tazman | are you using a supported video card? |
| 12:11.35 | dnipro | cannot open device /dev/input/mice |
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| 12:11.42 | dannythm | hi there |
| 12:11.57 | dnipro | the probleme is my mouse |
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| 12:12.09 | Spliffster | dnipro: is the device file there ? |
| 12:12.16 | dnipro | I was working yesterday ! |
| 12:12.28 | dnipro | yes the file is here |
| 12:12.39 | dannythm | I don't understand what happened |
| 12:12.48 | dannythm | yesterday everything was working allright |
| 12:12.58 | dnipro | i upgrade from sarge to etch |
| 12:13.21 | tazman | hehe, I am doin gthe same, but on a xen guest, no need for display |
| 12:13.25 | dnipro | When I type startx, i have his message |
| 12:13.27 | tjansson | Im' having problems with doing apt-get upgrade, It seems that my netbase package is broken it is very strange and "apt-get install -f" doesn't help - I put the apt-get upgrade error here -http://pastebin.com/659327 |
| 12:13.27 | dannythm | but today, when I booted my PC, two partitions had dissapeared |
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| 12:13.54 | dannythm | the system partitions |
| 12:14.33 | tazman | dnipro:http://www.issociate.de/board/post/244694/X_ |
| 12:14.37 | tazman | that may help you |
| 12:14.45 | valdyn | tjansson: this is no ubuntu support channel, delete the file and apt-get install again and hope it gets downloaded correctly that time |
| 12:14.47 | phretor | valdyn: I hope acpi and hal can work together :-) |
| 12:15.06 | valdyn | phretor: well, they should, i dont know the solution though, maybe check the bts |
| 12:15.09 | valdyn | !bts |
| 12:15.09 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 12:15.16 | dannythm | I'm booting it with knoppix and it only see one partitio on that disk |
| 12:15.20 | overrider | can anyone point me to an article or something that explains why someone should choose debian over ubuntu? |
| 12:15.23 | dannythm | not the other two I had |
| 12:15.37 | valdyn | !why debian |
| 12:15.37 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 12:16.00 | dannythm | valdyn you once helped me, can you help me now again? |
| 12:16.28 | tjansson | valdyn: I know - but they don't now how to fix it. Just one question - wouldn't "apt-get remove netbase" make it impossible to do "apt-get install netbase" afterwards? |
| 12:16.52 | valdyn | tjansson: i didnt tell you to remove the package |
| 12:17.01 | valdyn | tjansson: delete the file in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 12:17.19 | tjansson | valdyn: thx - wiil try that |
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| 12:18.54 | gary | Any one know of a good clipboard manager. One that can minimize to the system tray? |
| 12:19.05 | dnipro | i change my mouse to /dev/psaux and now i have a graphical interface but without mouse |
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| 12:19.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: damn |
| 12:19.49 | dnipro | I am looking for documentation how to use KDE without mouse |
| 12:19.54 | tjansson | valdyn: Hmm - after I removed the package and did just apt-get upgrade it went broke again :( |
| 12:19.55 | abrotman | tarzeau: cows? |
| 12:20.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: i just wanted to check danger-from-the-deep but xorg7 broke my nvidia driver |
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| 12:20.11 | Greg^lM | hello all |
| 12:20.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: the game i found, hot potato, isn't that great... |
| 12:20.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: sorry |
| 12:20.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: check happypenguin.org for games! |
| 12:20.35 | vin` | tarzeau: works here except for DRI |
| 12:20.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i wanted to try f1 formulat 1 spirit... |
| 12:20.50 | tarzeau | vin`: v4l works too? |
| 12:20.59 | vin` | tarzeau: no, that too. |
| 12:21.10 | tarzeau | vin`: the nv driver doesn't work either. how did you get it fixed? i put the nvidia* modules to the right place, that was ok |
| 12:21.16 | tarzeau | vin`: i get the nvidia log, but what about the glx files? |
| 12:21.29 | tarzeau | vin`: it's telling me can't load v4l , cause not found... |
| 12:21.35 | vin` | tarzeau: not nvidia, i915 |
| 12:21.39 | Greg^lM | can somebody advice me how to connect to the net on debian? I have adsl router and don't know what to do :/ |
| 12:21.42 | dannythm | can anyone help me here? |
| 12:21.51 | vin` | tarzeau: I got the v4l not found too |
| 12:21.54 | dannythm | my loinux partition has vanished |
| 12:21.54 | abrotman | tarzeau: so do it! |
| 12:21.57 | tarzeau | Greg^lM: usb adsl? |
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| 12:22.07 | dannythm | and I swear I did nothing to it |
| 12:22.09 | tarzeau | vin`: and tvtime/xawtv works? |
| 12:22.11 | Greg^lM | tarzeau: ethernet |
| 12:22.20 | tarzeau | Greg^lM: and the network card you have? |
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| 12:23.12 | Greg^lM | tarzeau: via_rhine |
| 12:23.33 | dannythm | yesterday I swiched off my PC and aeverything was working right, today I boot it and grib gave me "error 22" googled it and fout that means "no such partition" |
| 12:23.38 | vin` | tarzeau: I don't use those, the buttons in some qt apps are missing. |
| 12:23.42 | dannythm | so I booted with knoppix and see |
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| 12:24.06 | dannythm | and I found that my primary partition has vanished, it's not there |
| 12:25.37 | dannythm | the only things I did yesterday were... add some command to grub, test it, install world of warcraft, play, reboot, check some things in debian and poweroff |
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| 12:25.47 | dannythm | and this morging... deian is gone... |
| 12:25.54 | dannythm | can someone help me with that? |
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| 12:26.20 | vin` | dannythm: fdisk -l shows what? |
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| 12:26.26 | infernix | dannythm: so cfdisk shows empty space where your partition used to be? |
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| 12:27.05 | dannythm | it shows my partitions |
| 12:27.20 | dannythm | and two of them are not there |
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| 12:27.30 | dannythm | infernix: yes |
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| 12:27.58 | dannythm | vin`: it shows my partitions and two of thm are not there |
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| 12:28.46 | dannythm | infernix: and a partition tha where suposed to be ntfs is shown as fat16<32 |
| 12:28.50 | Greg^lM | tarzeau: when I'm trying to run ppoe config it says, that I don't have any external devices or sth like that |
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| 12:29.58 | infernix | dannythm: looks like you have a corrupted partition table then. |
| 12:30.21 | dannythm | infernix: but.. how's that possible? I did noting to it! |
| 12:30.31 | infernix | dannythm: it a computer. shit can happen. |
| 12:30.39 | dannythm | infernix: can I fix that? |
| 12:30.53 | infernix | dannythm: pretty hard to do without big chances of total screwup. |
| 12:31.25 | dannythm | infernix: well... all my data was in that hard disk... there's no worries about that now that I've lost it |
| 12:31.26 | infernix | dannythm: if you really really value your data, get another HD of the same size and clone them (make them identical). then start working on one |
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| 12:31.50 | infernix | otherwise just start over. what filesytem? |
| 12:32.00 | dannythm | infernix: ar... I don't have anotherone just like thisone |
| 12:32.12 | dannythm | infernix: I had ntfs, ext3 and hfs+ |
| 12:33.18 | infernix | dannythm: I guess if it is just the partition table, you could run tools to extract data from the NTFS and ext3 partition. dont know about hfs+. |
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| 12:33.29 | dannythm | infernix: so thre's no way I can fix the partition table without screwing all? |
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| 12:33.57 | dannythm | infernix: hfs+ don't matter, the important things where on ntfs and ext3 |
| 12:33.57 | infernix | dannythm: if you don't know exactly where partitions started and ended, it's very tricky |
| 12:34.27 | dannythm | well... I can know it more or less, I know the size of the partitions and where where them located |
| 12:34.36 | infernix | dannythm: you could try recreating the partitions but if you screw up, things go bad. which is why i suggested to clone the disk, then work on it. |
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| 12:35.31 | sonorous | on one of my debian sarge machines, doing a ps aux displays the uid if the user name is too long; on another sarge box, the user name is always shown but truncated if it's too long - is there any way I can have that behaviour on my other box? |
| 12:35.48 | dannythm | infernix: I just did a fsck over the disk |
| 12:36.20 | infernix | dannythm: that might already mess things up. be very careful. |
| 12:36.31 | dannythm | infernix: and yes, it says that the partition table is coromped |
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| 12:37.08 | dannythm | infernix: how can I recreate the partitions? |
| 12:37.21 | infernix | fdisk. parted. cfdisk. |
| 12:38.01 | jm_ | sonorous: PS honours some env variables, perhaps something is set |
| 12:38.03 | dannythm | infernix: I supposed that... but... how? |
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| 12:38.32 | infernix | dannythm: its why i said it's really hard if you don't know where your partitions started and ended. |
| 12:38.46 | minerale | I use a "virtual shell" provider, how can I test/benchmark the speed/cpu/memory? (on sarge) |
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| 12:38.50 | xomhau | hi * |
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| 12:39.17 | dannythm | infernix: well... the really important data was on the ntfs partition |
| 12:39.35 | dannythm | infernix: and I know in that case exactly where it starts and ends |
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| 12:40.01 | dannythm | infernix: the things on ext3 are downloadable |
| 12:40.02 | efaistos | hi |
| 12:40.12 | efaistos | do we have completion by default in Sarge ? |
| 12:40.18 | efaistos | and in bash |
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| 12:40.33 | infernix | dannythm: if its like hda1=NTFS=gone, hda2=HFS=exists and works, hda3=ext3=gone, then you might be able to recreate both partitions because the start and end are either beginning/end of disk/partition 2. otherwise, no idea. i'd use NTFS salvage tools like ontrack. |
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| 12:41.35 | resiak | dannythm: You trashed your partition table? you could try gpart, which tries to rebuild them |
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| 12:41.44 | dannythm | infernix: you said it, it was like that, but the swap file for debian has anything to say three or not? |
| 12:41.52 | elirips | hello people. I'm trying to get mozilla-firefox and kmail ready to display homepages and e-mails written in greek-alphabet. But it seem to me that still some letters are missing... anyone got me a hint on the font package i need? |
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| 12:42.16 | borco | hi |
| 12:42.16 | sonorous | jm_: on the box where the names are truncated (which is the behaviour I'd like), I copied the ps executable to my other machine and it did of course refuse to run because it was looking for the specific library type, which was lib<something>-<version_number> - so I guess it's some versioning difference |
| 12:42.20 | dannythm | resiak: I did nothing, I swiched off my PC yesterday and this morging the partition table was screwed up |
| 12:42.33 | resiak | dannythm: s/You/Something/ then :) |
| 12:42.43 | valdyn | elirips: already got ttf-dejavu? |
| 12:42.47 | resiak | dannythm: I've just read the scrollback --- very odd. I'll still suggest gpart |
| 12:42.52 | infernix | dannythm: only if you know for sure the start and end of your NTFS partition (or have some app detect it) you can recreate it and mount it. all other cases you'll have to run NTFS salvage tools. |
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| 12:42.58 | borco | how's the new xorg 7? is it working with the nvidia binaries? |
| 12:43.04 | valdyn | borco: no |
| 12:43.05 | jm_ | sonorous: that indicates major version difference, it's truncating it for me with no env. vars set, maybe someone has compiled it or whatever |
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| 12:43.25 | borco | valdyn, so I should stay with the old xorg? |
| 12:43.38 | elirips | valdyn, nope, i'm trying to install that. until now i have xfonts-intl-european |
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| 12:43.41 | valdyn | borco: without manual fixing it only works with the latest nvidia-glx debian packages |
| 12:43.47 | dannythm | infernix: like norton and all that stuff... |
| 12:43.47 | xomhau | e.g ,i want to know command ls in which package ? what can i do? |
| 12:43.54 | infernix | dannythm: i'd say ontrack. |
| 12:44.01 | dannythm | resiak: how I do it with gpart? |
| 12:44.02 | valdyn | elirips: you probably want ttf fonts anyway so those woulnt be useful.. |
| 12:44.05 | jm_ | xomhau: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:44.14 | Spliffster | nayone here has an idea how to get tail/xconsol on the gnome's root window ? |
| 12:44.30 | dannythm | infernix: ontrack? I'll search for it |
| 12:44.41 | xomhau | jm_, thank |
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| 12:45.02 | sonorous | jm_: oh, I just copied the variable again to my ~/.bin/ which is in my $PATH and it works now :) |
| 12:45.10 | sonorous | sorry, s/variable/executable/ |
| 12:45.11 | infernix | hmm. I went from a 2.4 LVM disk to 2.6.16, but now it seems the LVM disk isn't recognised. is this due the new DM code? do i need to convert/recreate? |
| 12:45.14 | resiak | dannythm: You install it, read its manual, and run it. It peers at your disk and tries to guess where partitions should start and end |
| 12:45.24 | jm_ | sonorous: right, so it wasn't exactly the same then |
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| 12:45.32 | borco | valdyn, what do you mean? nvidia-glx says "Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756, x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0)..." |
| 12:45.54 | valdyn | borco: that's right, it works with xorg7, as i said |
| 12:46.06 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 12:46.06 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 12:46.27 | sonorous | jm_: indeed. interesting to say the least. Actually, I don't suppose you might know how I may be able to adjust the width of the user name column do you? |
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| 12:46.42 | dannythm | resiak: oh... ok |
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| 12:47.33 | jm_ | sonorous: you can change the width by using -o option |
| 12:47.37 | borco | valdyn, so by manual setting you mean modifying /etc/modules? and reconfiguring xserver-xorg? have I get it right? |
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| 12:47.55 | tarzeau | does someone have hurd? can you install fdutils? |
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| 12:50.57 | dannythm | resiak: doing gpart.... |
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| 12:52.47 | dannythm | resiak: it will take quite a long time isn't it? |
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| 12:52.59 | resiak | dannythm: Didn't take _that_ long for me |
| 12:53.27 | borco | valdyn, thanx. it looks like nothing has changed since the previous version... |
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| 12:53.41 | sonorous | jm_: ooh, nice. Do you happen to know the -o output for "ps aux"? i.e. what ps aux equates to in terms of -o |
| 12:53.47 | dannythm | resiak: hmm... it's doing it now... let's see what it finds (not long time in a 200 gb HD?) |
| 12:54.03 | jm_ | sonorous: it's trivial to figure out from header line |
| 12:54.58 | resiak | dannythm: I've used it exactly once, and have told you everything I remember about it, other than that it worked perfectly for me |
| 12:55.01 | borco | bye |
| 12:55.18 | dannythm | resiak: I hope the same for me ^^^ |
| 12:55.31 | sonorous | jm_: good point :) |
| 12:55.36 | sonorous | jm_: thanks for your help, appreciate it |
| 12:55.45 | jm_ | sonorous: in fact, you can use exactly those keywords |
| 12:56.25 | jm_ | sonorous: or not |
| 12:57.01 | jm_ | sonorous: ahh one only needs to convert them to lowercase |
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| 12:58.18 | dnipro | j'ai trouvé !!!! |
| 12:58.25 | dnipro | :-P |
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| 12:59.24 | dannythm | resiak: it guessed a partition table... but is not my partition table... |
| 12:59.34 | resiak | dannythm: *shrug* |
| 12:59.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: why don't you put danger-from-the-deep to http://wiki.debian.org/ProspectiveGamesInDebian |
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| 12:59.56 | dannythm | resiak: I'm going to download a newer version of a live cd |
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| 13:00.11 | dannythm | resiak: 'cause this is knoppix3.7 |
| 13:00.32 | sonorous | jm_: heh, it really is trivial. I ought to learn to "try before asking" or so :) |
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| 13:00.36 | sonorous | jm_: thanks again |
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| 13:01.04 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:01.04 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:01.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: ow gallipoli looks like fun |
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| 13:03.04 | abrotman | tarzeau: many look fun |
| 13:03.05 | tarzeau | "More dead Australians means more points!" hjaha |
| 13:03.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: but this is about lemmings that look like australians |
| 13:03.16 | tarzeau | HAHAHAAH |
| 13:03.17 | sonyman | Why can't I launch synaptic through the gnome menu, but launch it fine through the console as root? |
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| 13:03.42 | dannythm | resiak: in this gpart in the man says that it not recognice ext3 partitions |
| 13:04.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: fun there's .deb packages, no deb src packages, nor is it in debian |
| 13:04.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: one 10mb .deb |
| 13:04.34 | abrotman | hheeh |
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| 13:05.08 | wakejagr_ | sonyman: the gnome menu may be running the command as your normal user. i don't know gnome, but that is likely the problem if you aren't asked for the root password when you select synaptic from the menu. |
| 13:05.43 | Norbert_ | question about xmodmap: is it possible to do something like xmodmap -e "keycode 96 = ls -la" ? |
| 13:05.52 | sonyman | wakejagr_, how can I fix it? In previous installations it has prompted me for the root password. |
| 13:06.04 | dannythm | resiak: I wonder if I culd do it from the etch install cd... |
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| 13:06.17 | resiak | dannythm: Why not try it and see? |
| 13:06.40 | resiak | dannythm: I have told you everything I know about gpart, and am busy. Sorry. |
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| 13:07.12 | dannythm | resiak: sorry, many thanks anyway ^^^ |
| 13:07.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: and of course the deb pkg would be old.... |
| 13:07.42 | basix | hi people. how do i view the list of samba users on my debian box? I dont have /etc/samba/smbpasswd ?? |
| 13:07.56 | resiak | dannythm: No, the manpage doesn't mention ext3. It mentions ext2, and ext3 is (for these purposes) the same thing |
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| 13:08.27 | dannythm | resiak:oh... so it didn't find it |
| 13:08.58 | tedp | what does ITP stand for? (have searched without success) |
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| 13:09.10 | wakejagr_ | sonyman: i don't know how gnome handles that. i assume there is some setting in the gnome config to have a command ask for root password. |
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| 13:09.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: fantastic, pkg name gallipoli-0.6.0 (with version) and installing to /usr/local |
| 13:09.15 | GutterPunk | Hi, does anyone in here use lat? |
| 13:09.18 | tarzeau | !ITP |
| 13:09.18 | dpkg | itp is, like, Intent To Package |
| 13:09.22 | tedp | ta |
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| 13:09.32 | GutterPunk | Shortly it got in in unstable, but it fails to start |
| 13:09.36 | sonyman | wakejagr_, ok. I'll look around. thanks |
| 13:09.42 | resiak | GutterPunk: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 13:09.45 | tedp | ooh, so i can post an ITP before i've packaged. excellent. |
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| 13:10.08 | dannythm | resiak: nothing... from the etch cd still nothing... >< |
| 13:10.20 | resiak | dannythm: Build a new version from sourcee? |
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| 13:10.30 | GutterPunk | resiak, what that? :s |
| 13:10.33 | resiak | !btssmite GutterPunk |
| 13:10.54 | Norbert_ | question about xmodmap: is it possible to do something like xmodmap -e "keycode 96 = morethanoneletter" ? |
| 13:10.59 | GutterPunk | Etch :) but with unstable packages where there are none in stable/etch |
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| 13:11.08 | minerale | is there a way to check if the X fonts i have are unicode compatible? if not which package contains them |
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| 13:11.43 | jm_ | minerale: xlsfonts will show encodnigs for fonts |
| 13:12.00 | _idan | I am using lastest debian with IBM Thinkpad notebook x21, i have a problem with my screen it dosent recodnize it and i cant run X, i googled like 2 days now i didnt find any answer. is there any GUI tool to config my screen via bash? anything i can do at all? i am using ATI Rage Mobility and already messed with XF86Config-4 |
| 13:12.09 | GutterPunk | I'm definately not the only one |
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| 13:14.07 | Juz_visiting | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 13:14.44 | priscila | _idan: did you try to run dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xfree86 ? |
| 13:14.45 | sorsis | _idan: you can allways go and make settings byt hand to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:15.29 | _idan | dpkg-reconfigure? i will try this now |
| 13:15.33 | _idan | ty, brb trying |
| 13:15.33 | priscila | ops xserver-xfree86 |
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| 13:16.01 | priscila | _idan: if you are using xorg, replace xfree86 to xorg |
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| 13:16.57 | _idan | i tells me to enter Video card bus identifier.. |
| 13:17.04 | _idan | what sould i insert there? |
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| 13:17.56 | priscila | _idan: just press enter |
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| 13:18.13 | _idan | amonnt of memory? |
| 13:18.15 | _idan | also enter? |
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| 13:18.20 | jm_ | read the screen |
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| 13:18.45 | linrunix | problem |
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| 13:18.49 | _idan | i asks me to enter the amount of memory (in KB) to be used by my video card |
| 13:18.50 | retro_neo | I need to install debian sarge on a AMD Opteron, what build should I use? |
| 13:18.54 | tziku | how can i do a script to start/stop all ./psybnc ./eggdrop ./shoutcast ./muh ./emech process ? any ideea ? |
| 13:18.56 | _idan | but i dunno how much mb i have there |
| 13:18.58 | priscila | _idan: do you have the manual of you video card? |
| 13:19.05 | _idan | nope, i also googled it |
| 13:19.13 | _idan | if i had it wouldent be such a problem |
| 13:19.55 | linrunix | until now my sound was perfect, but i unplug my speakers and start my machine like two times and now my sound doesnt work, alsa says (no loaded)????????? |
| 13:20.06 | webwolf_27 | has anybody had any luck getting the scanner on the brother MFC-215C setup? |
| 13:20.37 | priscila | _idan: you cant configure your video card if you dont know it specifications |
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| 13:21.08 | linrunix | anybody? |
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| 13:21.40 | priscila | but i wonder dpkg-reconfigure xserver can do it automatically |
| 13:21.58 | _idan | after reconfigureing and then starting x it gives me the same problem: Fatal server error: faild to initialize core devices |
| 13:22.06 | sonyman | I can't get any program that needs to 'su' to work properly when launched through the gnome menus. The programs don't open. Help :( |
| 13:22.12 | webwolf_27 | maybe the dmesg would help |
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| 13:22.33 | bipolar | Is there a common cause for df to show a continous loss of free space even though none of the files on the partition are growing? |
| 13:22.39 | webwolf_27 | usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'scanimage' sets config #1 |
| 13:22.53 | linrunix | until now my sound was perfect, but i unplug my speakers and start my machine like two times and now my sound doesnt work, alsa says (no loaded)????????? ehlp please... |
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| 13:23.34 | priscila | _idan: did you look at linuxlaptop's page? |
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| 13:23.44 | priscila | _idan: http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html&ei=KqI_RMDJAbCEsQGtktSTBQ&sig2=6VzOBcqd1uWhmjG8wI5ZHw |
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| 13:24.26 | ootput | hmm, nvidia-glx being removed with latest sid update? |
| 13:25.00 | webwolf_27 | ootput, mine works fine, but the I don't have the sid kernel installed |
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| 13:25.14 | _Abe_ | does anyone here have a link to the bf2.6 flavor boot image? |
| 13:25.26 | linrunix | well, thanks anyway |
| 13:25.30 | ootput | webwolf_27: neither do i.. i'm using a patchset from the gentoo-forums |
| 13:25.33 | ootput | ck-based |
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| 13:26.00 | ootput | beyond-sources, i believe |
| 13:26.28 | webwolf_27 | ootput, I'm just saying nvidia-glx works fine on my sid |
| 13:26.41 | aphexer | how come aptitude complains about "this package is from an untrusted source"? I just installed debian testing |
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| 13:27.29 | retro_neo | apparently only the testing Debian is available for AMD64, is it usable in a production environment? |
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| 13:28.03 | jm_ | retro_neo: who told you that? |
| 13:28.26 | ootput | retro_neo: you're somewhat mistaken |
| 13:28.35 | webwolf_27 | on of my all in one, it apears to conflict with the printer. dmseg is "usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'scanimage' sets config #1" |
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| 13:29.08 | azeem | retro_neo: amd64 is available for sarge, albeit unofficially |
| 13:29.18 | azeem | but it is supported by the security team etc. |
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| 13:29.38 | webwolf_27 | can somebody help me setup the scanner portion of my all in one, it apears to conflict with the printer. dmseg is "usb 3-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'scanimage' sets config #1" |
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| 13:30.21 | valdyn | retro_neo: sarge is available for amd64 |
| 13:30.32 | sonyman | can anyone help me? |
| 13:30.33 | dannythm | resiak: I'm going to try with the tools given by my HDDprovider |
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| 13:32.21 | dannythm | sonyman: what happens? |
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| 13:32.47 | priscila | sonyman: we cant help you if you dont say what happens .. |
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| 13:33.16 | sonyman | dannythm, nothing. If I launch the "root terminal" application, it asks me for my password, the mouse icon changes to an hourglass and then nothing happens. With synaptic, nothing happens at all |
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| 13:33.46 | clausen | Anyone have an idea why my courier mail server cant send emails to hotmail accounts, but to other mails ? |
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| 13:34.06 | idP | hi |
| 13:34.16 | priscila | sonyman: use su -c 'command' or sudo 'command' to run programs that need privilegies |
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| 13:34.31 | valdyn | clausen: no we cant tell you that unless you give us more specific information, like the logs of your mta |
| 13:34.41 | sonyman | priscila, that works dandy from the terminal, but what about from the gnome menus? |
| 13:34.50 | sonyman | priscila, they should work without modification |
| 13:35.00 | idP | can anyone understand my problem.. recently I noticed firefox takes longer time looking up the hostnames, does this indicate i have a problem with DNS oe caching ? |
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| 13:35.10 | valdyn | idP: dns |
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| 13:35.24 | idP | ok is this from my box or outside |
| 13:35.44 | idP | whosis responsible, my machine or the ISP |
| 13:35.48 | valdyn | idP: how should we know? |
| 13:35.51 | sorsis | idP: can't say for sure but you can allways test situation by making pings all over. |
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| 13:35.59 | priscila | sonyman: i would recomend gksu to do it |
| 13:36.05 | idP | normaly who should be respnsible |
| 13:36.15 | valdyn | idP: you or your isp |
| 13:36.21 | idP | lets assume it is my machgine problem, how can I check ? |
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| 13:36.37 | sonyman | priscila, gksu is installed |
| 13:36.41 | sorsis | idP: those millions porn torrents what you are downloading might cause that kind of problems. |
| 13:36.46 | clausen | valdyn, : the log says : success: delivered: mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.245.72] |
| 13:36.49 | valdyn | idP: maybe you could tell us useful information first, like where you dns server is, if you use a proxy etc |
| 13:37.06 | valdyn | clausen: so your mta doesnt fail to deliver hotmail mail |
| 13:37.09 | idP | sorsis i dont use that |
| 13:37.29 | clausen | valdyn, it must be something about hotmail then ? |
| 13:37.43 | valdyn | clausen: yes |
| 13:37.53 | clausen | Anyone know of hotmail denying special types of mails ? |
| 13:38.12 | valdyn | clausen: if its not reaching its destination then hotmail is dropping that mail after it was successfully delivered |
| 13:38.25 | valdyn | clausen: ( successfully delivered by your MTA ) |
| 13:38.50 | clausen | valdyn, ys.. but why is that.. really anoying |
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| 13:39.03 | valdyn | clausen: ask them |
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| 13:39.04 | gnufan | clausen: we've seen mail disappear into hotmail on occaison -- get what you pay for from Microsoft (sometimes). |
| 13:39.09 | andres2 | hi |
| 13:39.26 | retro_neo | thanks everyone, I finally found the unofficial amd64 for sarge |
| 13:40.05 | gnufan | clausen: I've tended to assume user error, not hotmail error, but eventually you start to wonder...... |
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| 13:40.15 | retro_neo | is there any thing to know about that version, since its not official? |
| 13:40.28 | clausen | gnufan, I have tried sending to many different hotmail accounts, none of the mwork |
| 13:40.56 | valdyn | clausen: if you're on a dynamic ip or your name doesnt resolve properly then hotmail could drop your mail based on the information in its header, but you cant know why exactly without asking them or running a ( possibly huge number ) of tests |
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| 13:42.15 | gnufan | clausen: tended to eat paypal related emails -- I've tended to give gmail invites to those who won't buy a better email service ;) |
| 13:42.22 | ScoobyD00 | hello - can anyone explain why i get terrible performance when running SMP kernel? *everything* is sooo slow |
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| 13:42.36 | ScoobyD00 | even nano the text editor is painful to use |
| 13:42.56 | ScoobyD00 | when i flpi back to UP kernel, it is fast again |
| 13:42.59 | ScoobyD00 | *flip |
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| 13:43.16 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: use a different kernel |
| 13:43.19 | ScoobyD00 | i tried them all |
| 13:43.21 | gnufan | ScoobyD00: what processor? |
| 13:43.25 | _idan | nothing works.... |
| 13:43.36 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: i doubt you tried all kernels |
| 13:43.36 | ScoobyD00 | gnufan: Pentium D 820 (DualCore) |
| 13:43.37 | gnufan | ScoobyD00: what kernel versions. |
| 13:43.53 | andres2 | hi, I have a problem with isa sound card ALS0110 the sound is very "buggy". |
| 13:44.04 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: this is a kernel bug, switching between kernels optimised for different CPUs wont fix this |
| 13:44.05 | _idan | priscila: i already try there... but i dosent seems to work as well |
| 13:44.27 | clausen | gnufan, Ive tried sending to my gmail account that does not work either |
| 13:44.38 | andres2 | ... using alsaconf to set it up. |
| 13:44.42 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: i tried: UP 2.4 & UP 2.6 -- SMP 2.4 & 2.6 |
| 13:44.53 | clausen | valdyn, okay.. where can I ask them do u think? |
| 13:44.58 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: try a kernel from backports.org |
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| 13:45.13 | valdyn | 15:43 < andres2> hi, I have a problem with isa sound card ALS0110 the sound is very "buggy". |
| 13:45.17 | valdyn | 15:44 < valdyn> ScoobyD00: this is a kernel bug, switching between kernels optimised for different CPUs wont fix this |
| 13:45.20 | valdyn | 15:44 < _idan> priscila: i already try there... but i dosent seems to work as well |
| 13:45.24 | valdyn | 15:44 < clausen> gnufan, Ive tried sending to my gmail account that does not work either |
| 13:45.27 | valdyn | 15:44 < andres2> ... using alsaconf to set it up. |
| 13:45.29 | valdyn | 15:44 < ScoobyD00> valdyn: i tried: UP 2.4 & UP 2.6 -- SMP 2.4 & 2.6 |
| 13:45.31 | priscila | _idan: what happened? |
| 13:45.32 | valdyn | jesus |
| 13:45.48 | valdyn | now why didnt I get kicked |
| 13:45.56 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: so if i use backports - will that mean i lose the benefits of tracking stable? |
| 13:46.22 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: to some extent, yes, but you primarily want to fix your error.. |
| 13:46.27 | tedp | it seems like a stupid question, but what can go in non-free if most "unfree" packages are too "unfree" for non-free? |
| 13:46.28 | clausen | valdyn, Correction.. it works.. my bad |
| 13:46.30 | kspath | ScoobyD00: Security updates for backports you use will be much more your area to watch out for. |
| 13:46.31 | XoR_ | aptitude install mysql-server => remove/uninstall all software from my HDD :( |
| 13:46.43 | azeem | XoR_: on stable? |
| 13:46.51 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: no, i primarily want a stable system, which means i may have to use a distro that works :O( |
| 13:46.56 | XoR_ | no, on testing! |
| 13:47.04 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: or that |
| 13:47.04 | tedp | aptitude has a habit of removing lots of software on !stable :) |
| 13:47.10 | tedp | ... in my experience |
| 13:47.32 | ScoobyD00 | is it normal for a brand new Sarge install to show bugs like this? |
| 13:47.40 | ScoobyD00 | on commodity hardware |
| 13:47.51 | chealer | tedp: what do you mean by "most "unfree" packages are too "unfree" for non-free"? |
| 13:47.52 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: though that is like fixing any configuration with a reinstall, its not really targetted at fixing things precisely |
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| 13:48.24 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: the thing is this is a brand new installation, so i have the option to start with a good stable foundation |
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| 13:48.33 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: smb systems arent really commodity in that sense, there's many issues all the time till they're fixed |
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| 13:48.38 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: err, smp |
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| 13:48.48 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: ok |
| 13:48.55 | tedp | chealer: things like codecs and (more specifically) stepmania |
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| 13:49.27 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: and if your system is newer than sarge there's no surprise that its got issues really, see lkml |
| 13:49.28 | gnufan | ScoobyD00: if it is the kernel - it is likely common to all GNU/Linux distros. |
| 13:49.29 | tedp | the only thing i could think of was where the licence doesn't permit redistribution. perhaps that's it |
| 13:49.56 | valdyn | gnufan: i dont expect this bug to affect newer kernels though.. |
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| 13:50.19 | chealer | tedp: heh, that *would* be a pretty obvious explanation of why it couldn't go in non-free |
| 13:50.26 | gnufan | valdyn: newer kernels have newer bugs you mean ;) |
| 13:50.34 | valdyn | gnufan: yea sure |
| 13:50.42 | tedp | chealer: doesn't explain why no-one wants stepmania (not even in non-free?) while its theme resembles Dance Dance Revolution |
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| 13:51.12 | Sebulba03 | Hey all. I'm running a testing system on my laptop and for some reason, the BIOS clock isn't syncronized properly at boot time. The BIOS clock is correct and the /etc/default/rcS entry for UTC is correct. If I run the script manually after boot, it works. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can get the init script to sync the clock properly at boot time? |
| 13:51.29 | blondie | Sebulba03: dunno but install ntp |
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| 13:51.38 | chealer | tedp: I don't know what's stepmania. I thought you asked a general question, answering about a specific product with a specific license needs some analysis |
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| 13:51.56 | Sebulba03 | blondie: I have rdate installed, but that depends on being on the internet. |
| 13:51.56 | tedp | right |
| 13:51.59 | blondie | stepmania is gay |
| 13:52.09 | blondie | Sebulba03: seems a reasonable assumption :P |
| 13:52.16 | tedp | blondie: i don't care what you think of it |
| 13:52.18 | chealer | !tell blondie about gay |
| 13:52.25 | blondie | I know all about gay |
| 13:52.54 | kspath | Sebulba03: make sure anything you set up to sync with time servers tries AFTER your network interface(s) are up |
| 13:52.54 | chealer | blondie: then we know all about stepmania |
| 13:53.04 | tedp | haha |
| 13:53.04 | blondie | then you'll know how gay it is :P |
| 13:53.22 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: whatever though, i would install a backports kernel to find out if that fixes things, you can always do something else ( and possibly involving more work ) later on |
| 13:53.31 | kspath | Sebulba03: Do you have a VERY good clock online in your local network? |
| 13:53.33 | chealer | blondie: no, but we'll make without your remarks |
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| 13:53.42 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: Dual Core pentiums 8xx have been around since "Apr 2005", and Sarge was released 6th of June, 2005 |
| 13:53.44 | blondie | chealer: you don't know what my remarks mean |
| 13:53.50 | coywolf | where can I get real codec? |
| 13:53.54 | Sebulba03 | kspath: I don't really want it to depend on being on the network/internet. |
| 13:53.55 | blondie | I don't use the word "gay" how you think. |
| 13:53.57 | ScoobyD00 | valdyn: would it be motherboard? |
| 13:54.05 | chealer | blondie: then don't do it |
| 13:54.09 | blondie | chealer: why? |
| 13:54.18 | blondie | if you want to make assumptions that's your problem. |
| 13:54.29 | kspath | Sebulba03: Well get a machine with a great clock internal and use that. |
| 13:54.30 | tedp | well, things like java runtimes and adobe flash player (the proprietary one), do you know if they aren't really packaged[1] because of restrictions on 'copying'? [1] i know. |
| 13:54.49 | chealer | blondie: because we all make assumptions, and you should expect that |
| 13:54.49 | azeem | blondie: can you please refrain from talking about gay etc. in here? |
| 13:54.54 | Sebulba03 | kspath: it worked before I put in the new harddrive, which required a new debian install and later kernel. |
| 13:55.19 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: not much point guessing, just try what works and what does not |
| 13:55.23 | tedp | Sebulba03: could be a dead cmos battery |
| 13:55.31 | chealer | coywolf: what do you mean? codecs for Real streams? |
| 13:55.36 | kspath | Sebulba03: so you do not remember or understand how your machine was syncing time because of a new harddrive? |
| 13:55.49 | valdyn | ScoobyD00: 2.6.8 kernel defenitely is older than apr 2005 though, i guess |
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| 13:56.17 | Sebulba03 | kspath: I've read the script on how it was syncing the time. /etc/rc.d/hwclockfirst.sh , heck, I've tried to debug it |
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| 13:56.38 | Sebulba03 | So I do understand it. |
| 13:56.43 | coywolf | chealer, yes, and to play .rm file |
| 13:56.46 | kspath | Sebulba03: tedp has a good point that hardware failure might be a problem |
| 13:56.54 | chealer | !tell coywolf about real codecs |
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| 13:57.08 | Sebulba03 | kspath: but if I run `hwclock` right after the system boots... it returns the correct time. |
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| 13:57.50 | branneman | hi guys |
| 13:57.57 | Sebulba03 | it's just the init script isn't syncing the system clock properly, for some reason |
| 13:58.04 | branneman | can anyone tell me how to get the total size of a directory in bash ? |
| 13:58.20 | azeem | branneman: du - |
| 13:58.23 | azeem | eh, du -s |
| 13:58.32 | f_mohr | du -s directory |
| 13:58.40 | azeem | that includes subdirectories, though |
| 13:58.44 | kspath | Sebulba03: I think you might want to define your time problem like that next time. Your are concerned about your hardware clock matching up with your timezone which might be called syncing but MOST people when talking of syncing are concerned with syncing with the rest of the world because most clocks in most computers suck. |
| 13:58.46 | branneman | yes, ok tnx |
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| 13:58.57 | Norbert_ | sigh |
| 13:59.22 | Sebulba03 | kspath: yeah, sorry, I made assumptions I shouldn't have |
| 13:59.33 | Norbert_ | I've changed the defkeymap.kmap.gz for "string F12", but it still sends its original value even after logging out - does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 13:59.34 | kspath | Sebulba03: everyone else did as well. |
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| 14:00.15 | coywolf | do we have http://security.debian.org/ sid ? |
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| 14:00.50 | coywolf | do we have http://security.debian.org/ sid/updates ? |
| 14:00.54 | Coweater | no |
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| 14:01.38 | Tygrys | security.debian.org for stable distribution |
| 14:02.16 | coywolf | etch is testing |
| 14:02.29 | Sebulba03 | kspath: yeah, well, I'm at a loss as to how the init script doesn't work at boot time but works afterwards. |
| 14:02.31 | blondie | coywolf: yes... :p |
| 14:02.46 | kspath | Sebulba03: Is it logging an issue? Have you thought about delaying your hwclockfirst.sh until after anything remotely hardware related is completely done? |
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| 14:03.31 | kspath | Sebulba03: note it can not log an issue until after syslogd starts assuming it would log via syslog |
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| 14:03.53 | Sebulba03 | kspath: every now and then it says "System clock was not was not updated at this time", but that's not consistant.. possibly due to the syslog |
| 14:03.56 | kspath | Sebulba03: also it would log the "wrong" time |
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| 14:04.25 | Sebulba03 | kspath: which looking at the script, suggests the timezone can't be retrieved |
| 14:04.33 | coywolf | Tygrys, so testing also has security.debian supported? blondie |
| 14:04.38 | kspath | Sebulba03: Perhaps you should step through your init |
| 14:05.00 | kspath | Sebulba03: are you using raid or other? |
| 14:05.17 | kspath | Sebulba03: forget that last question |
| 14:05.22 | Sebulba03 | no |
| 14:05.35 | coywolf | aries:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 |
| 14:05.35 | coywolf | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 14:05.42 | kspath | Sebulba03: I DOUBT that you would be running init scripts without being able to see /etc yet. |
| 14:06.08 | kspath | Sebulba03: what kind of system is that? |
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| 14:06.18 | Sebulba03 | kspath: dell inspiron 8500 |
| 14:06.26 | chuchete | buenas |
| 14:06.35 | kspath | Sebulba03: I still think you might consider stepping through your start scripts |
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| 14:06.54 | Sebulba03 | kspath: that's what I'll do |
| 14:07.06 | orp | i i cant start a gedit from root shell |
| 14:07.15 | Sebulba03 | kspath: I need to get it logging al the time though |
| 14:07.20 | orp | xhost + dont work |
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| 14:07.35 | tziku | can somebody help me with this: http://pastebin.com/659515 , i want to save all users who have ./psybnc process started , then restart server and start from save file....i am stuck |
| 14:07.42 | orp | can you help? |
| 14:07.46 | coywolf | why the key doesn't work |
| 14:08.00 | coywolf | why nothing exported |
| 14:08.02 | kspath | Sebulba03: well when your system is first booting up it does not have enough system to support syslogd yet. That is why there is an order to start scripts. |
| 14:09.00 | Sebulba03 | kspath: yeah, the /var lvm isn't mounted until after the clock script is run |
| 14:09.05 | kspath | Sebulba03: also udp is lossy and if your system is VERY VERY executing start scripts which I kind of doubt than it might not start syslogd fast enough or timeout before it can log it all. |
| 14:09.27 | xordali | whitch package is requiret to boot debian and install with apt-get? now i have removed all packages from system after command 'aptitude install syslogd', but system now is working... |
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| 14:09.57 | kspath | Sebulba03: Well in a sense that made sense because you want it to log the correct timestamps BUT that means it might fail and not log via syslogd to /var/ |
| 14:10.34 | Sebulba03 | kspath: correct, it does. |
| 14:11.04 | kspath | Sebulba03: That is why as root/sysadmin you can change whatever you want but you get to keep the pieces if it breaks. |
| 14:11.06 | xordali | also all kernels is removed :( |
| 14:11.26 | Sebulba03 | kspath: heh, yeah, I've learned that one enough times |
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| 14:12.05 | kspath | Sebulba03: I hope I helped rather than hurt or confused |
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| 14:13.01 | Sebulba03 | kspath: ultimatly I knew I'd probably have to dig into the bash script and debug it. I was just checking/hoping that maybe an existing issue has been seen before I spent all the time doing that. |
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| 14:17.35 | sonyman | I fixed my gksu problem from before. The fix was: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/77879 |
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| 14:18.14 | sonyman | what program provides gnome-volume-control? |
| 14:18.59 | citral | gnome-media |
| 14:19.33 | sonyman | thank you |
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| 14:20.03 | xordali | whitch is better testing or unstable for desktop user ? |
| 14:20.18 | azeem | xordali: stable or testing |
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| 14:20.34 | citral | testing, unstable is a crashtest |
| 14:20.52 | sonyman | unstable is great :D, but no way is it suitable for a new user |
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| 14:21.02 | resiak | !sid faq |
| 14:21.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 14:21.38 | kspath | unstable is unstable that is why it is called sid/unstable |
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| 14:22.20 | xordali | azeem, now i use testing, but after 'aptitude install syslogd' it remove all packages.... :( at the moment i manualy install eatch package... :( |
| 14:22.47 | xordali | aptitute remove about 2000 packages :( |
| 14:22.52 | azeem | xordali: don't run upgrades if they remove a lot of packages, that usually implies somethign is going wrong |
| 14:23.01 | kspath | xordali: How did you install a system without syslogd? did you have syslog-ng or something else? |
| 14:23.25 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
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| 14:23.54 | tarzeau | kspath: i think unstable is the wrong word |
| 14:23.54 | kspath | I can see someone not wanted sysloging but seems odd |
| 14:24.00 | tarzeau | kspath: and it doesn't cover all packages |
| 14:24.09 | tarzeau | it's highly a) software b) maintainer dependant |
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| 14:24.47 | tarzeau | probably libraries, dependances on other software is also related to stability of software |
| 14:24.54 | kspath | tarzeau: the things that most people whine about are often enough the things changing a lot and breaking a lot. |
| 14:25.25 | tarzeau | kspath: people are different. different people whine different (not at all, louder than 10 other people) |
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| 14:25.37 | tarzeau | kspath: besides alot of changes have no relation to good or bad quality changes |
| 14:25.42 | tarzeau | kspath: nor to breakage |
| 14:25.57 | tarzeau | kspath: but maybe size of software |
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| 14:26.04 | woodland | i am trying to reconfigure xserver-xfree86, at one point its asking me to enter BUSid of the video card. i used 'lspci' but i am confused |
| 14:26.06 | kspath | tarzeau: after I had vim break in testing I went back to stable fast |
| 14:26.16 | azeem | woodland: just leave it empty |
| 14:26.18 | tarzeau | kspath: i'm glad i don't use vim |
| 14:26.28 | tarzeau | kspath: really it depends what sofwtare people use |
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| 14:26.37 | woodland | azeem: why empty |
| 14:26.50 | sonyman | is there a front-end to dpkg that will let me click on a .deb and install it? |
| 14:26.51 | azeem | woodland: because in general you don't need to specify it |
| 14:26.55 | tarzeau | kspath: it's interesting, maybe one should try to make a small number of groups of people using groups of software |
| 14:26.57 | azeem | sonyman: no |
| 14:27.00 | tarzeau | kspath: using the popcon statistics? |
| 14:27.02 | xordali | how can i reinstall clean all system without reboot ??? |
| 14:27.03 | woodland | azeem: ok |
| 14:27.11 | azeem | !reinstall |
| 14:27.11 | dpkg | it has been said that reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 14:27.14 | tarzeau | kspath: there'd probably be a gnome, kde, others group, and emacs, vim... |
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| 14:27.30 | Eulex | sonyman, set your favorite file manager to run dpkg -i pkgname when you doubleclick on a .deb |
| 14:27.32 | tarzeau | kspath: depicting the groups with different sized circles and overlapping each other would be fun, no? |
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| 14:27.41 | tarzeau | Eulex: ouch |
| 14:27.48 | kspath | tarzeau: I purposely only use a very few packages beyond the base system so I can depend on even more stability |
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| 14:27.58 | tarzeau | Eulex: that's supposed to break badly. besides what about debs that need be installed together with other debs? |
| 14:27.59 | sonyman | Eulex, what will happen if it needs to run a configuration script? |
| 14:28.03 | kspath | tarzeau: venn diagrams fun? |
| 14:28.24 | tarzeau | kspath: i use quite some software, but not too many either. what's your dpkg -l | wc -l |
| 14:28.24 | Eulex | tarzeau & sonyman, oh, that's true. |
| 14:28.49 | tarzeau | kspath: however i don't abandon software for stability |
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| 14:29.51 | bipolar | If I expand an LVM2 partiton by adding a physical partition, do I then need to expand the ext3 file system that sits on top of it? |
| 14:29.51 | kspath | tarzeau: fairly large, but I use only 2 wms vim "email app" and shell wterm/aterm sometimes a web browser that is it |
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| 14:30.27 | tarzeau | kspath: i get 934 from dpkg -l |wc -l |
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| 14:31.00 | kspath | ~1500 |
| 14:31.01 | tarzeau | kspath: i also use 2 wms and terminal.app, and a browser as well as mail and my favourite editor among quite a few games and tools |
| 14:31.20 | zood_ | Is it possible to associate a file-type with a Wine program? I'm running sarge with KDE (wine 0.9.11) |
| 14:31.33 | kspath | I have gnome and kde installed for testing things but I RARELY use them. |
| 14:31.36 | odla | how do i make eth1 come up automatically? i know i need to edit /etc/network/interfaces - i just forgot how i'm suppose to write it |
| 14:31.50 | Eulex | odla, man interfaces |
| 14:31.51 | asg | odla: auto eth1 |
| 14:32.25 | odla | yes i had eth1 auto |
| 14:32.31 | odla | asg: thanks |
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| 14:34.15 | doddy1984 | what's the correct way to add a user: useradd -m -p password username? |
| 14:34.26 | azeem | doddy1984: adduser |
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| 14:39.22 | ccamacho | what is the less painful way to get back X org 6.9 after do an upgrade to X org 7.0? |
| 14:39.50 | pipeline | ccamacho: There's not one, really. One way would be to dpkg --purge the x11-common package, then make judicious use of snapshot.debian.net or your local apt cache. |
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| 14:40.01 | quitte | another pipe,please |
| 14:40.17 | pipeline | ccamacho: After you down grade, be sure to make appropriate "holds". Also, keep in mind that Synaptic doesn't generate real holds -- synaptic holds only apply to synaptic! |
| 14:40.18 | azeem | | |
| 14:40.19 | ccamacho | noooooooooo |
| 14:40.36 | quitte | :) |
| 14:40.37 | gnufan | pipeline: couldn't one force apt to reinstall the versions it just upgraded. |
| 14:40.54 | pipeline | gnufan: That would be "making judicious use of the local apt cache" |
| 14:41.02 | pipeline | gnufan: Downgrading without a purge is a baaaaad idea. |
| 14:41.08 | asg | or don't run unstable |
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| 14:41.11 | ccamacho | damn |
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| 14:41.28 | pipeline | ccamacho: actually, you could probably get away with just purging the xserver related stuff |
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| 14:41.33 | pipeline | ccamacho: And just force a downgrade of the libs |
| 14:41.40 | pipeline | ccamacho: But that doesn't make it a great idea :P |
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| 14:41.59 | pipeline | ccamacho: on the plus side, if you're running sid, you more than likely have your entire package tree in the cache, so when you re-install stuff, there won't be any downloading :P |
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| 14:42.22 | ccamacho | well, so, purge all the x and reinstall |
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| 14:44.52 | ccamacho | pipeline: what do you want to say with appropiate "holds"? |
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| 14:49.01 | stouset | I have a machine on the network whose SSH host key changed--but since the .known_hosts file hashes all the IP addresses/hostnames, I have no way of figuring out which entry it is so I can remove the stale entry. Is there any way to do this? |
| 14:49.22 | asg | stouset: the error tells you on which line in the hosts file the error occurs |
| 14:49.41 | niroxx | debian sucks |
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| 14:49.47 | gnufan | ccamacho: I have sid with a working X config -- if you grep packages update from dpkg.log, I'll send you a list of versions that work for me -- sure there must be a better way..... surely we should have a date history in the repositories somewhere so we can say "regress to DAY-X". |
| 14:50.02 | f_mohr | @stouset: ssh-keygen -R hostname |
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| 14:50.21 | kspath | niroxx: you have a lot of spare time? |
| 14:50.34 | stouset | asg: Ah, perfect. |
| 14:50.40 | stouset | asg: Didn't even notice that... |
| 14:50.43 | stouset | f_mohr: thanks. |
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| 14:51.13 | Ronin | wow lame even for a troll :) |
| 14:51.27 | gnufan | !start a distro war |
| 14:51.27 | dpkg | SuSE rocks! |
| 14:51.30 | asg | Ronin: that didn't even classify as a troll |
| 14:51.31 | Quinthius | haha |
| 14:51.53 | gnufan | We've gots bots that are better trolls ;) |
| 14:51.58 | asg | indeed we do |
| 14:52.04 | Ronin | asg: :) |
| 14:52.13 | gnufan | Perhaps he was a bot? |
| 14:52.14 | r_marvin | the mta war is my favorite :) |
| 14:52.25 | infernix | "OMG debian sucks cause, well, i dont get it" |
| 14:52.28 | kspath | r_marvin: ehlo |
| 14:52.33 | asg | gnufan: maybe, it didn't say 'sux' |
| 14:52.50 | tarzeau | LOL |
| 14:53.15 | r_marvin | kspath: i can't properly reply here, maybe in #flood :)) |
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| 14:54.23 | odla | seems like the marillat key factoid for dpkg doesn't work...apt-get is still complaining about packages being unable to be authenticated |
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| 14:54.48 | ccamacho | me cago en X |
| 14:54.53 | ccamacho | es una MIERDAAAAAAAA |
| 14:55.01 | jengelh | stfu .es |
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| 14:55.21 | r_marvin | what's spanish for stfu? |
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| 14:56.01 | azeem | ccamacho: please write english in here |
| 14:56.25 | r_marvin | he just said he shits on X, because it's crap |
| 14:56.33 | r_marvin | or something along those lines |
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| 14:59.30 | ccamacho | azeem: it means... fuck X, this is shit |
| 14:59.47 | azeem | ccamacho: I got that |
| 14:59.56 | ccamacho | lol |
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| 15:01.58 | harpiain | hi, folks! I'm using Debian "testing" as a guest at VMware. The host has a CDRW driver and I want record a CD on it from the Debian-guest to the host. How could I do this? |
| 15:02.29 | phretor | !bts |
| 15:02.30 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 15:02.37 | banan | cu |
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| 15:03.46 | phretor | sorry for repeating but I still unable to start acpid due to hald-addon-acpi locks |
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| 15:06.03 | Halitherses | How can I export all of the email adresses in evolution into a text file? |
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| 15:08.01 | cantona_ | any package is cross compiler to build binaries for mips machines in a i386 host? |
| 15:08.16 | harpiain | hi, folks! I'm using Debian "testing" as a guest at VMware. The host has a CDRW driver and I want record a CD on it (from the Debian-guest to the host). How could I do this? |
| 15:08.24 | mortal__ | cantona_: not any |
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| 15:08.50 | cantona_ | mortal__: yes i cannot find it, but any in tarball? |
| 15:09.15 | Eulex | cantona_, check out speedblue.org |
| 15:09.39 | Halitherses | harpiain, xcdroast |
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| 15:09.51 | cantona_ | Eulex: thx |
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| 15:10.06 | superlinux | how can i in PPPoE technology setup sharing or borrowing between all the pppX devices so it won't let network starvation problem float on surface? |
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| 15:11.06 | Eulex | cantona_, I use the arm, powerpc and sparc ones out of them. they work well, I just remember that I had to set up some things manually, like copy some stuff into the right locations. the mips one should work well too. |
| 15:11.25 | yassine | is it possibile to configure my laptop to use its screen and an other external screen ?? |
| 15:11.30 | PSG|Tartiflette | I have this error when i start LDAP "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1" nobody know where is my problem ? |
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| 15:11.54 | harpiain | humm, when I do "cdrecord -scanbus -dev=/dev/hdc" it don't detect my CDRW as CDRW, but as a "removable CD-ROM" :( |
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| 15:12.12 | harpiain | what I could do in that case? |
| 15:12.30 | superlinux | PSG|Tartiflette, are u sing LDAP with freeradius?? |
| 15:12.38 | superlinux | PSG|Tartiflette, are youu sing LDAP with freeradius?? |
| 15:12.52 | PSG|Tartiflette | I want use ldap with SSL |
| 15:13.08 | superlinux | this way i cant help |
| 15:13.13 | PSG|Tartiflette | i have this error when i put TLSacceFile etc... in slapd.conf |
| 15:13.21 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok |
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| 15:13.29 | superlinux | PSG|Tartiflette, i have no experiance in LDAP |
| 15:13.33 | Halitherses | harpiain, it does not matter |
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| 15:13.42 | Halitherses | mine does the same thing |
| 15:13.44 | PSG|Tartiflette | no problem superlinux :) |
| 15:14.25 | superlinux | PSG|Tartiflette, do you have experiance in PPPoE and traffic shaping using tcng? |
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| 15:14.32 | asg | PSG|Tartiflette: you might try #ldap |
| 15:14.39 | PSG|Tartiflette | no sorry superlinux |
| 15:14.50 | PSG|Tartiflette | yes, asg but nobody answer (all away :/) |
| 15:14.50 | superlinux | yea true try the ldap chan |
| 15:14.52 | asg | superlinux: check the faqs at lartc.org |
| 15:14.55 | zood_ | In general does running programs in Wine bring all the security problems of windows to linux? |
| 15:15.00 | asg | PSG|Tartiflette: ah, okay. |
| 15:15.04 | asg | zood_: yes |
| 15:15.10 | asg | zood_: wine is bug compliant with windows |
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| 15:16.27 | harpiain | Halitherses, when I do "cdrecord -format -blank=fast -dev=/dev/hdc" it show me "device type also as removable CD-ROM" and exit with "cannot init drive. |
| 15:16.52 | surfdue | hello im ona shared hosting server i want to setup a ssh key, I went to my home dir /home/surfdue there was no .ssh dir so I created it, then I went into it and made the file authorized_keys and put my key into it but it refuses my key? |
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| 15:17.04 | asg | harpiain: does VMWare even support virtualized CDRWs? |
| 15:17.20 | zood_ | So, if I download some piece of untrusted software, it's just as dangerous to run in Wine as in M$? |
| 15:17.23 | Halitherses | harpiain, read this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html |
| 15:17.29 | asg | surfdue: chmod 700 ~/.ssh ; chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 15:17.31 | harpiain | yes, I think so. |
| 15:17.36 | deejoe | surfdue: check the permissions on . . . what ask said. |
| 15:17.36 | Halitherses | !cd writing |
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| 15:17.38 | gnufan | surfdue: probably permissions issues, I would rename ".ssh" and do an "ssh-keygen" -- could be config of course |
| 15:17.43 | deejoe | er, asg |
| 15:17.45 | Halitherses | !cd |
| 15:17.45 | dpkg | well, cd is a Compact-Disc, or something that can hold about 650 megs, or a shiny silver thing that glitters, or a good beverage coaster, or change directory |
| 15:18.10 | surfdue | rename .ssh to what? |
| 15:18.23 | asg | surfdue: don't rename it, change the permissions on it to be more restrictive |
| 15:18.29 | surfdue | nvm asg thank you |
| 15:18.36 | surfdue | it works :) |
| 15:18.45 | gnufan | surfdue: I mean just back it up, and generate .ssh with tools, so the permissions are right -- otherwise follow ASG response to get the permissions right |
| 15:18.50 | asg | surfdue: you're welcome |
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| 15:22.03 | dv_ | hi |
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| 15:22.27 | dv_ | how are the manpages for x11&opengl development called? manpages-dev do not include them |
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| 15:24.11 | gnufan | dv_: apt-get install xorg-dev |
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| 15:24.48 | dv_ | ah thx |
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| 15:25.43 | gnufan | "convinience package" -- argh |
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| 15:26.38 | woodland | i just installed videogen but i cant launch it by 'videogen' |
| 15:26.39 | sonyman | is there a totem-xine firefox plugin? |
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| 15:27.10 | asg | woodland: dpkg -L videogen | grep bin |
| 15:27.26 | woodland | asg: ok |
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| 15:29.23 | woodland | asg: even after that i get error 'could not open configuration file "~/.videogen"' |
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| 15:30.01 | Eclipser | can I somehow use remote ftp server as mount point? |
| 15:30.12 | valdyn | Eclipser: yes |
| 15:30.23 | Eclipser | thought as much, how thought? :) |
| 15:30.25 | Eclipser | -t |
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| 15:31.10 | valdyn | Eclipser: with fuse |
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| 15:32.24 | valdyn | Eclipser: fuse.sourceforge.net, its package in debian too |
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| 15:32.34 | maxb | sqlite3 >= 3.3.3 exposes a bug in python-pysqlite2 < 2.1.3. The bug is in python-pysqlite2, but is it appropriate in this case for me to file a bug against sqlite3 asking for a "Conflicts: python-pysqlite2 (<< 2.1.3)" to be added? |
| 15:33.13 | Eclipser | valdyn, I'll chekc it out, thanks |
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| 15:35.10 | adrakoa | hi |
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| 15:37.14 | citral | redd4: no, sudoedit /etc/sudoers as root |
| 15:37.23 | redd4 | ok |
| 15:37.25 | redd4 | ty |
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| 15:38.38 | redd4 | citral: what do I type in that file? |
| 15:39.15 | citral | uh, google for an howto if you have no clue |
| 15:39.17 | Eulex | redd4, depends on what you want. man sudoers. |
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| 15:41.12 | kepht | is there a difference between "meta" and "virtual" packages, or are they the same? |
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| 15:42.40 | chealer | kepht: there's a difference. meta packages are real binary packages |
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| 15:42.43 | rdz_ | hi all. i've got problems when installing debian with grub bootloader ('hard disk error'). how can i install debian netinst with lilo? |
| 15:42.50 | Eulex | kepht, a metapackage just exist for convenience so you can for example do apt-get install gnome. a virtual package doesn't exist at all, it's a virtual dependency that packages provide and depend on |
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| 15:44.05 | Eulex | kepht, so yes, there's a big difference |
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| 15:44.34 | bipolar | is there a way to get a progressbar or eta when running cp? |
| 15:44.40 | tarzeau | bipolar: yes |
| 15:44.53 | tarzeau | bipolar: but why not just use mc? |
| 15:44.59 | bipolar | mc? |
| 15:45.05 | tarzeau | !mc |
| 15:45.05 | dpkg | i heard mc is Midnight Commander, a file browser for GNU. Monaco Stop! Hammertime! |
| 15:45.18 | bipolar | tarzeau: ahh... I want to script it. |
| 15:45.21 | vin` | rdz_: booting with 'expert26' lets you choose, iirc. |
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| 15:45.25 | tarzeau | bipolar: there's a package for it but i can't find it |
| 15:45.26 | kepht | Eulex: and what about a package that contains only scripts, not a binary? |
| 15:45.30 | tarzeau | bipolar: over stdout/stdin |
| 15:45.38 | rdz_ | win`, thnx |
| 15:45.43 | vin` | rdz_: but grub should work fine, like it does for the large majority. |
| 15:46.05 | rdz_ | win`, not with my harddisk |
| 15:46.19 | bipolar | tarzeau: ok, I'll take a look at it. but can you tell me how to do it with cp? I've been searching the cp docs to no avail and i'm frustrated with it. :) |
| 15:46.26 | Eulex | kepht, that's neither a metapackage nor a virtual package. it's just an arch-independent package. |
| 15:46.26 | kepht | Eulex: a package that provides plugins, support configs, etc. ..but no binary |
| 15:46.34 | rdz_ | win`, don't know the reason |
| 15:46.51 | tarzeau | bipolar: you're wasting your time |
| 15:47.08 | tarzeau | bipolar: and me. i'll not you waste mine :) |
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| 15:47.29 | bipolar | tarzeau: but you said there was a way to do it with cp. |
| 15:47.46 | tarzeau | bipolar: yes there certainly is |
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| 15:47.53 | tarzeau | bipolar: but it's just not worth it |
| 15:47.56 | bipolar | tarzeau: or does it require piping though something else? |
| 15:48.02 | tarzeau | yes piping |
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| 15:49.08 | kepht | Eulex: ok, thanks for the clarifications ..i recently build some arch-independent packages ..tried to use debhelper scripts, but ended up doing things manually |
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| 15:49.43 | Eulex | kepht, yw :) |
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| 15:56.02 | Tom_007 | chcia³eœ œciagnaæ film, ale za d³ugo to trwa³o? Teraz mozesz sciagac najnowsze filmy, gry, programy, ebooki prosto z internetu !!!!! juz teraz wejdz na globtel.glt.pl i ciesz sie najnowszymi plikami! na stronie znajduja sie linki do najnowszych filmow, gier, programow... (przeœlij t¹ wiadomoœæ dalej, a pomo¿esz w rozwoju serwisu) |
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| 15:56.53 | maxb | sqlite3 >= 3.3.3 exposes a bug in python-pysqlite2 < 2.1.3. The bug is in python-pysqlite2, but is it appropriate in this case for me to file a bug against sqlite3 asking for a "Conflicts: python-pysqlite2 (<< 2.1.3)" to be added? |
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| 15:57.53 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 16:00.18 | dannythm | can anyone tell me if http://channels.debian.net/paste/2357 is correct? |
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| 16:01.00 | Eulex | maxb, I'd rather try to make the devs put 2.2.0-1 into testing as fast as possible. and I don't know if it's possible to add a new revision of an old version of a package when a newer version is in unstable. |
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| 16:01.14 | wwallace | where do i find? xlib-dev xlib-static-dev apt-get install says couldnt find them |
| 16:01.53 | Eulex | wwallace, they're gone, get the packages one by one instead |
| 16:02.06 | wwallace | err how? |
| 16:02.13 | Eulex | apt-get them? |
| 16:02.35 | wwallace | apt-get install what? |
| 16:02.42 | Eulex | the ones you need |
| 16:02.45 | maxb | Eulex: No, look carefully: I'm suggesting that *new* sqlite conflict with *old* pysqlite. Not that some new-old-version of pysqlite be created to conflict with new sqlite |
| 16:02.54 | wwallace | cantr find them |
| 16:02.56 | wwallace | cant |
| 16:03.06 | Eulex | those two packages were just metapackages that installed other packages |
| 16:03.10 | Eulex | !metapackage |
| 16:03.10 | dpkg | i heard metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 16:03.22 | Eulex | maxb, ah, that sounds reasonable |
| 16:03.33 | wwallace | still dont get it apt-get install metapackage? |
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| 16:03.51 | Eulex | wwallace, did you even read what dpkg said? |
| 16:03.57 | wwallace | yes |
| 16:04.25 | dannythm | can anyone tell me if my menu.lst is correct? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2357 |
| 16:04.26 | Eulex | wwallace, then go apt-get those former dependencies of xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev that you want |
| 16:05.02 | wwallace | Eulex: thnak you but i dont get it sorry im stupid thanks for trying though |
| 16:05.02 | chealer | maxb: it depends on the python-pysqlite2 bug exposed in question. a conflict is only appropriate if the bug is "important" |
| 16:05.26 | sparr | anyone here who doesnt have gimp installed, would you be willing to install it and take a screenshot of the default configuration for me? |
| 16:06.05 | Eulex | sparr, wouldn't you be able to get that from gimp.org? |
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| 16:07.32 | Eulex | wwallace, now, here's an example: foo is a meta-package that depends on bar and baz. it's just there so it's easier to get the piece of software that's contained in bar and baz. now imagine that foo disappears, then you'd just apt-get bar and baz individually |
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| 16:08.09 | parityflag | hello everybody! |
| 16:08.14 | maxb | chealer: 'totally breaks' is important, right? :-) |
| 16:08.41 | Eulex | maxb, indeed |
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| 16:10.01 | parityflag | uhm... how can I tunnel ssh over a firewall which only allow port-80-traffic? |
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| 16:10.40 | chealer | maxb: I guess |
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| 16:14.33 | linrunix | can anybody hack me only with my ip? |
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| 16:15.02 | cahoot | parityflag: like this? http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/ssh_port_fwd.html |
| 16:15.26 | zinx | linrunix: depends on what you're running, what you're offering with what you're running, the local network setup, and lots of other things. |
| 16:15.47 | parityflag | uhm... |
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| 16:16.07 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 16:16.23 | nipa | hmmm ich hab in der .Xdefaults folgendes hinzugefügt |
| 16:16.30 | nipa | xterm*Foreground: white |
| 16:16.32 | woodland | i just reconfigured my xserver-xfree86 and changed resolution to 1024x768 @60 Hz but i still see 800x600 even after rebooting |
| 16:16.46 | Eulex | !de |
| 16:16.46 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 16:16.58 | nipa | aber der fordergrund ändert sich nicht im xterm |
| 16:17.15 | Eulex | woodland, check your XF86Config-4 and if it's correct, check your X log in /var/log/ |
| 16:17.21 | linrunix | zinx, you got your nick register? |
| 16:17.26 | adrakoa | nipa apt-cache show xtermcontrol |
| 16:17.28 | linrunix | send me an private |
| 16:17.34 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:17.59 | obscuresoul | how can i mount a audio cd? |
| 16:18.02 | zinx | linrunix: this isn't a channel for windows help, just so you know |
| 16:18.05 | nipa | adrakoa: thx |
| 16:18.07 | Eulex | !msg |
| 16:18.07 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 16:18.13 | obscuresoul | s/a/an |
| 16:18.24 | cahoot | obscuresoul: only with great pain - not usually needed |
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| 16:18.31 | fantomas | Hi. Problem with Midnight Commander. When MC starts it begins to send requests to DNS. When DNS either unavailable or slow it takes up to 30 seconds to get MC running. How to disable this? What does it want from DNS? |
| 16:18.33 | Eulex | obscuresoul, you don't |
| 16:18.39 | Braindead | obscuresoul: you can't mount it. audio cds have no filesystem |
| 16:18.44 | zinx | !tell linrunix about msg |
| 16:19.27 | woodland | Eulex: i think in that file its still 800x600 and i had chosen color depth as 24 bit, |
| 16:19.39 | Eulex | !xmd5 |
| 16:19.39 | obscuresoul | Eulex, Braindead: so how can i play them? |
| 16:19.39 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 16:19.43 | tarzeau | fantomas: fix dns? |
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| 16:19.47 | tarzeau | fantomas: or run mc in strace |
| 16:19.58 | tarzeau | fantomas: probably the own hostname? fix /etc/hosts ? |
| 16:20.08 | linrunix | i use debian |
| 16:20.20 | Braindead | obscuresoul: with any software of your choice that plays cd,from cdcd to rhythmbox |
| 16:20.29 | tarzeau | linrunix: you're the only one in here |
| 16:20.31 | fantomas | tarzeau: I did strace and tcpdump. It asks my domain name (which is fake actually) and 'LOCALHOST'. Many times. |
| 16:20.40 | Eulex | woodland, read what dpkg said |
| 16:20.47 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
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| 16:21.05 | linrunix | but i'm in my father machines and i want to know i anybody can hack it only with the ip? |
| 16:21.17 | gary | Any one know of a good clipboard manager. One that can minimize to the system tray? |
| 16:21.18 | fantomas | tarzeau: in /etc/hosts I have somethin like: 127.0.0.1 deb02.jinr.ru localhost |
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| 16:21.22 | nipa | adrakoa: aber das xterm bleibt trotzdem immer mit den default farben wenn man ein neues startet, xtermcontrol is nur zum ändern danach |
| 16:21.23 | tarzeau | linrunix: what's the ip? |
| 16:21.33 | woodland | Eulex: but i didnt hand edit my XF86Config-4 |
| 16:21.37 | tarzeau | fantomas: but what's your ip? |
| 16:21.39 | Eulex | !de |
| 16:21.39 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 16:21.44 | Eulex | nipa, ^^ |
| 16:21.45 | zinx | tarzeau: 220sdl30m19.codetel.net.do, obviously |
| 16:21.46 | linrunix | not in that way, in privatye |
| 16:21.50 | linrunix | not in that way, in private |
| 16:21.56 | tarzeau | zinx: no, that's not obvious |
| 16:22.00 | Eulex | !msg |
| 16:22.00 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 16:22.04 | Eulex | linrunix, ^^ |
| 16:22.04 | tarzeau | zinx: alot of people have some sort of NAT |
| 16:22.05 | nipa | Eulex: ? :-) |
| 16:22.08 | linrunix | zinx, whois |
| 16:22.09 | zinx | tarzeau: :( |
| 16:22.17 | tarzeau | linrunix: you don't have NAT? |
| 16:22.24 | kenneho | Hi all, anyone here experienced in installing new NICs? Have just added a new network card, but don't know how to get it working. I'm using command line debian. |
| 16:22.33 | linrunix | if you talk me in private i will give it to you |
| 16:22.39 | tarzeau | kenneho: see /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:22.45 | woodland | Eulex: when i run that command given in dpkg, it says files are identical |
| 16:22.47 | Eulex | nipa, sprechen sie deutsch in #debian.de, nicht hier |
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| 16:23.13 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 16:23.14 | nipa | Eulex: oh sorry, thought i'm in #debian.de actually |
| 16:23.14 | tarzeau | ich bin eine kleine zitrone |
| 16:23.14 | Eulex | woodland, heh, ok. rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and make sure you select the right resolutions you want |
| 16:23.27 | Eulex | nipa, hehe, ok :) |
| 16:23.36 | nipa | wondered why they are speaking english lol |
| 16:23.37 | ribnitz | Since my update of today, I can no longer log into my X11. |
| 16:23.45 | tarzeau | ribnitz: super! |
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| 16:23.57 | tarzeau | ribnitz: how's your one debian package coming along btw? |
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| 16:24.09 | woodland | Eulex: i chose right resolution last time 1024x768 @ 60 Hz. but i dont know why i still see 800x600 even after rebooting |
| 16:24.16 | obscuresoul | Braindead: does BMP plays them? |
| 16:24.22 | woodland | Eulex: i did choose 24 color depth |
| 16:24.36 | ribnitz | tarzeau: well, trying to bundle libdb4.2++ with it. will need some changes. |
| 16:24.37 | amour | qq1 parle français?! |
| 16:24.39 | Eulex | woodland, because you didn't really select it, as your XF86Config-4 still says 800x600? |
| 16:24.46 | Eulex | !fr |
| 16:24.46 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 16:24.47 | tarzeau | ribnitz: do you still use it? |
| 16:24.53 | ribnitz | tarzeau: nope. |
| 16:24.58 | tarzeau | ribnitz: why do you maintain it? |
| 16:25.06 | tarzeau | ribnitz: where do you live these days? |
| 16:25.11 | kenneho | tarzeau: Can I just add my new interface description in this file, and that's all? |
| 16:25.13 | ribnitz | tarzeau: Fribourg. |
| 16:25.21 | tarzeau | kenneho: yes, man interface |
| 16:25.22 | tarzeau | kenneho: yes, man interfaces |
| 16:25.27 | Eulex | woodland, rerun and make sure you select it |
| 16:25.35 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:25.41 | ribnitz | tarzeau: atm figuring out why my x11 no longer likes me |
| 16:25.54 | tarzeau | ribnitz: xorg7? |
| 16:26.07 | tarzeau | ribnitz: why do you blindly upgrade? |
| 16:26.27 | tarzeau | ribnitz: what graphics card? which driver? |
| 16:26.33 | ribnitz | I have seen xorg work quite well, so far. |
| 16:26.46 | tarzeau | ribnitz: but you know what the difference between 6.9 and 7 is? |
| 16:26.48 | linrunix | well, thanks anyway |
| 16:26.52 | ribnitz | tarzeau: nvidia. module compiles fine. |
| 16:26.55 | azeem | ribnitz: if this is unstable, see /topic |
| 16:27.09 | tarzeau | ribnitz: yes and it even works, according to #nvidia |
| 16:27.16 | tarzeau | ribnitz: i take it nv doesn't work for you? |
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| 16:27.31 | ribnitz | azeem: thanks. so I downgrade to 6.9.. |
| 16:27.31 | tarzeau | ribnitz: there's always the vesa fallback |
| 16:27.38 | tarzeau | ribnitz: you can downgrade? |
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| 16:27.51 | ribnitz | tarzeau: Its not about no graphics. I get a graphical login. |
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| 16:28.05 | xomhau | re hi |
| 16:28.08 | ribnitz | tarzeau: dpkg -i of half a zillion packages. |
| 16:28.17 | kenneho | tarzeau: Forgot to mention it, but I'm not sure the driver is installed (or module loaded). Running "ifconfig" the new nic doesn't show up. |
| 16:28.18 | xomhau | how to make a boot disk? ( cd-rom ) |
| 16:28.19 | tarzeau | ribnitz: haha, good luck |
| 16:28.23 | tarzeau | xomhau: i386? |
| 16:28.30 | woodland | Eulex: hi, i am reonfiguring it now, after i selected 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, its asking me what color depth i should choose |
| 16:28.32 | tarzeau | kenneho: ifconfig -a |
| 16:28.39 | tarzeau | kenneho: what nic is it? lspci shows it? |
| 16:28.42 | Eulex | woodland, yes? |
| 16:28.43 | xomhau | tarzeau, amd64 |
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| 16:28.49 | tarzeau | woodland: i'd go for 24bpp |
| 16:28.52 | braunkraut | hola |
| 16:28.57 | Eulex | woodland, select 24 if you haven't got a good reason to not. |
| 16:29.03 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:29.15 | Eulex | woodland, like your gfx card not supporting it |
| 16:29.31 | kenneho | tarzeau: Ah, "ifconfig -a" did the trick. :) It's a plain ethernet card. Now it's named "eth1". |
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| 16:29.58 | braunkraut | df reports negative available space on a mounted NFS volume > 2TB, anybody know if this is caused by NFS, df or simply statfs of the 2.4 kernel |
| 16:30.14 | tarzeau | kenneho: yep, just put it in the interfaces file (auto and iface) then say ifup eth1 |
| 16:30.35 | tarzeau | braunkraut: which 2.4 kernel are you running? what about the server? |
| 16:30.41 | woodland | Eulex: i finished it, should i reboot |
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| 16:31.04 | Eulex | woodland, not necessary |
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| 16:31.28 | braunkraut | tarzeau: the nfs volume is mounted from a netapp, homebrew 2.4.31 kernel on the system mounting the volume |
| 16:31.38 | Eulex | woodland, are you using xdm, gdm or kdm. if so, just /etc/init.d/[xgk]dm restart as root. or ctrl-alt-backsoace |
| 16:31.40 | woodland | Eulex: then how would my resolution change, i dont see any difference |
| 16:31.45 | woodland | Eulex: gdm |
| 16:32.00 | xomhau | how to make a boot disk? ( cd-rom ) for amd64 |
| 16:32.01 | tarzeau | braunkraut: user or kernelspace nfs client? |
| 16:32.07 | tarzeau | braunkraut: can you try a 2.6 kernel? |
| 16:32.09 | Eulex | woodland, /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 16:32.14 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:32.15 | tarzeau | xomhau: man cdrecord |
| 16:32.19 | tarzeau | xomhau: err mkisofs |
| 16:32.31 | xomhau | tarzeau, thank |
| 16:32.44 | braunkraut | tarzeau: trying 2.6 was my next step but I'd like to avoid it since that would mean upgrading every server in the cluster.. |
| 16:32.51 | anabain | What does it mean: scripts/Makefile.build:15: /usr/src/linux-2.6.16/fs/proc/Makefile: No such file or directory make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-2.6.16/fs/proc/Makefile'. Stop. |
| 16:33.13 | tarzeau | braunkraut: how many of them? know make-kpkg? |
| 16:33.26 | tarzeau | braunkraut: what kind of cluster? uptime? |
| 16:33.29 | kenneho | tarzeau: It works. Great! Thanks. Was worried installing this nic would require me to reinstall the kernel or some other scary stuff. :) |
| 16:33.42 | tarzeau | kenneho: :) yw |
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| 16:34.08 | woodland | Eulex: hi, success thanx |
| 16:34.28 | anabain | It's an error message from a kernel compilation as chroot with a knoppix (I wanted to compile ext3 support in order to boot my hdd system after having changed from reiserfs to ext3) |
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| 16:36.21 | chealer | anabain: ask #knoppix |
| 16:36.46 | Eulex | woodland, yw :) |
| 16:37.25 | woodland | Eulex: why didnt just ordinary reboot work earlier for me, your command worked fine |
| 16:37.26 | fantomas | tarzeau: maybe it be the problem with fake domain name? Currently I use 'deb02.jinr.ru'. How should one name his machine if its not in any DNS databases? |
| 16:37.42 | tarzeau | !hosts |
| 16:37.44 | tarzeau | !hostname |
| 16:37.44 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 16:37.49 | tarzeau | fantomas: for you |
| 16:37.54 | anabain | chealer, ok, but the problem is that as chroot, I'm using my hdd debian stuff. The fact that this operation is being made from a cd live can lead to this error? |
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| 16:38.24 | tedp | how big is a pbuilder's base.tgz usually? |
| 16:38.38 | fantomas | tarzeau: I know this pretty well, and have BIND9 in internet cafe up and running for last 2 years. |
| 16:38.48 | tarzeau | fantomas: then i don't know |
| 16:39.13 | chealer | anabain: hum, no idea...why don't you try under Debian? |
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| 16:39.28 | odla | what package do i need for automounting of usb devices in kde? |
| 16:39.31 | odla | hal? |
| 16:39.40 | Eulex | woodland, my guess is that you didn't select your resolution correctly. it's easy to just press enter at the resolution selection screen when the resolution you want is selected, instead of selecting the resolutions you want with the spacebar and then press enter. enter just goes to the next screen, it doesn't select anything. |
| 16:39.41 | chealer | odla: most likely |
| 16:39.57 | azeem | odla: the kde meta-package should drag that in automatically I guess |
| 16:40.03 | fantomas | tarzeau: my the problem is that I have no bind9 here - its my home machine and I have no idea how should I name it! :) |
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| 16:40.13 | chealer | odla: that probably won't do all the job though |
| 16:40.16 | odla | i install kde-base cause i didn't want all that extra junk |
| 16:40.22 | woodland | Eulex: i see |
| 16:40.26 | anabain | chealer: the prob is that I cannot boot debian just because I need ext3 support in the kernel!!! That's why I'm using the knoppix live cd, ;) |
| 16:40.42 | odla | i might just go pestering the folks at #kde about this one or maybe debian-kde |
| 16:40.45 | braunkraut | tarzeau: alright, 2.6 kernel works fine |
| 16:40.55 | braunkraut | tarzeau: must be statfs |
| 16:41.08 | chealer | anabain: uh? stock Debian kernels have ext3 support |
| 16:41.13 | tarzeau | braunkraut: great |
| 16:41.18 | braunkraut | tarzeau: thanks |
| 16:41.26 | fantomas | tarzeau: say, am I free to use any name? Can I use domain name? If so should it exists? If not - can I use /etc/hosts to specify domain, not a host... |
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| 16:41.38 | tarzeau | fantomas: you didn't read what dpkg said |
| 16:41.47 | obscuresoul | is it possible to play an audio cd with bmp? |
| 16:42.02 | anabain | this kernel is not debian's, do you mean I could try a debian stock kernel? |
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| 16:42.10 | moshii | obscuresoul: apt-cache search bmp cd |
| 16:42.17 | woodland | Eulex: do u know assembly language |
| 16:42.19 | moshii | obscuresoul: I think there is a cd reader plugin |
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| 16:42.26 | anabain | where can I get one, chealer ? |
| 16:42.46 | chealer | anabain: you should *already* have one |
| 16:42.53 | moshii | anabain: a kernel-image or linux-image package |
| 16:43.04 | Eulex | woodland, yes, I do know a bit of 386 assembly |
| 16:43.06 | ribnitz | downgrade does not look so easy. Whats the quickest way to get a Xorg 6.9? (uninstalled the 7.0). |
| 16:43.20 | peoro | o,o |
| 16:43.27 | moshii | ribnitz: add testing as a source |
| 16:43.28 | peoro | i wan't do downgrade xorg too |
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| 16:43.40 | peoro | I've some problem with xorg 7 and cedega... |
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| 16:43.47 | anabain | I tried with 2.6.12, chealer, and got another panic, something like attemptimg to kill init... |
| 16:43.50 | ribnitz | moshii: to sid? |
| 16:43.54 | azeem | ribnitz: or use snapshot.debian.net from a couple of days ago rather than unstable |
| 16:44.05 | anabain | chealer: stock 2.6.12, I mean |
| 16:44.19 | ribnitz | azeem: testing has 6.9? |
| 16:44.33 | azeem | yes |
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| 16:44.40 | moshii | ribnitz: you can have testing and unstable .. running testing and using a few packages from unstable is pretty nice :) |
| 16:44.45 | obscuresoul | moshii: tks |
| 16:44.47 | azeem | ribnitz: you can check these things at packages.debian.org |
| 16:45.05 | fantomas | tarzeau: what did it say? using /etc/hostname to set hostname - sure, who doesn't know this... |
| 16:45.36 | chealer | anabain: ah. you should always try keeping a current stock kernel. I don't know about chroot, I would guess that allows you to install a package? if so, install 2.6.15 and try it |
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| 16:45.56 | Eclipser | <3 curlftpfs |
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| 16:45.57 | tarzeau | fantomas: and not in 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:46.05 | tarzeau | fantomas: many people don't know how to make it properly |
| 16:46.11 | tarzeau | fantomas: you're one among them |
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| 16:46.47 | anabain | ok, chealer, thanx, I'll try |
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| 16:47.11 | amoi | hello ppl.. |
| 16:47.14 | Xteven | any wiki experts around ? |
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| 16:47.30 | amoi | what the command i to check the process info in debian? |
| 16:47.35 | chealer | Xteven: I'm level 31. is that enough for you? |
| 16:47.38 | zood_ | amoi, ps? |
| 16:47.44 | zood_ | top? |
| 16:47.50 | amoi | ps to check process background |
| 16:47.54 | Xteven | chealer : sure |
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| 16:48.15 | woodland | Eulex: i find learning linux a bit hard, will learning assembly help understand lot of low level stuff which may be required to know linux better |
| 16:48.22 | zood_ | amoi, ps -A? |
| 16:48.23 | amoi | process info in slackware the command socklist. what in debian/ |
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| 16:48.28 | Xteven | I was wondering if there is a wiki where (besides editing a document online) you can upload a new version of the document |
| 16:48.34 | POVaddct | amoi: ps axf |
| 16:49.17 | amoi | i mean when i type that command it wil show me process running and port |
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| 16:50.07 | amoi | my example. i run the process sshd. what should i type the command to check sshd running and it sho me port |
| 16:50.16 | colde89 | what was the command for changing a user - password |
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| 16:50.34 | Xteven | amoi : lsof ? |
| 16:50.39 | clausen | how do I convert a wave file to mp3 in debian/ubuntu ? |
| 16:50.55 | Eulex | woodland, no, but learning assembly will increase your understanding of computers in general. but it won't help that much in learning how an os works, except those parts that are shared between operating systems.. |
| 16:51.14 | Eulex | clausen, get lame from marillat |
| 16:51.15 | Eulex | !lame |
| 16:51.15 | dpkg | methinks lame is : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
| 16:51.19 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:51.22 | lzhang | can anybody give me an example of an iptables that forwards all requests on port 1723 from the external interface to 192.168.0.120 |
| 16:51.24 | Eulex | !marillat |
| 16:51.24 | dpkg | [marillat] an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 16:51.33 | amoi | Xteven. not lsof |
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| 16:52.19 | Eulex | anyway, brb, restarting X... |
| 16:52.27 | woodland | Eulex: ok |
| 16:52.36 | amoi | Xteven. in slackware the command socklist the check process info |
| 16:52.39 | tonix | hy guys, dows anyone know what is the kernel parameter to enable to obtain libata.ko module after kernel compilation?? thanks a lot |
| 16:53.16 | fantomas | tarzeau: if I understand you correctly you mean I need to add '<Real IP> <hostname from /etc/hostname>' to /etc/hosts, right? |
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| 16:54.03 | tarzeau | fantomas: fqdn then hostname |
| 16:54.03 | tarzeau | fantomas: on the very top, yes |
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| 16:54.03 | tarzeau | fantomas: which version of mc do you have? |
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| 16:55.27 | woodland | does anybody know channel for python programming |
| 16:55.34 | tarzeau | #python ? |
| 16:55.37 | fantomas | tarzeau: 4.6.1-pre3 |
| 16:56.01 | tarzeau | fantomas: i've got 4.6.1-2 |
| 16:56.03 | testi_ | I updated to from Xorg 6.9 to 7.0. It's troublesome to me: Mode Changes don't happen, instead the video-games draw smaller windows, the keymaps don't work correctly, I can't change Virtual Terminals (Ctrl+Alt+Fx) inside an X-Server and the nvidia-driver installation was complicated. Are these known problems? My configuration is not very exceptional, i guess. |
| 16:56.10 | testi_ | *-to |
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| 16:56.40 | woodland | tarzeau: when i try to join #python , i get the message that i need to be identified, what does that mean |
| 16:56.41 | kimo | any unofficial client offers Voice for Yahoo ? |
| 16:56.59 | gnufan | testi_: read the topic |
| 16:57.03 | tarzeau | woodland: /msg nickserv help |
| 16:57.05 | Supaplex | testi_: topic |
| 16:57.11 | tarzeau | !freenode |
| 16:57.11 | dpkg | The network you're on is called *freenode*. It's a service of the Peer-Directed Projects Center, an IRS 501(c)(3) corporation (frequently-asked questions: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml :: news: http://freenode.net/news.shtml) |
| 16:57.36 | testi_ | ah, is see. so they are known :D |
| 16:57.56 | gnufan | testi_: sounds like you are ahead of the game compared to some. |
| 16:57.59 | testi_ | sry, my xchat window overlapped :D |
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| 16:59.19 | stoni | hello I have a dependency problem with debian unestable, cannot get package locales installed which needs base-config 2.3.2.ds1-22 but 2.76 is installed |
| 16:59.45 | stoni | is taht normal |
| 16:59.47 | lzhang | http://pastebin.com/659856 <-- can somebody take a look and tell me if this looks good for forwarding a port from ext interface to .120? |
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| 17:00.36 | ambroseL | apt-get upgrade results in dpkg partially downloading - I'm using apt-proxy - apt-get to the original source works fine - rm-ing the "dists" directory in the apt-proxy cache and the pool/main/d/dpkg directory and letting them be rebuilt does not fix it - what else can I do to try to fix apt-proxy? |
| 17:00.49 | woodland | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.20 | testi_ | thx to the topic ;) |
| 17:01.28 | stew | stoni: there is no base-config in unstable, and 2.3.2.ds1-22 is sarge |
| 17:01.43 | stoni | ok |
| 17:01.50 | stoni | thanks |
| 17:02.03 | stew | stoni: can you put the output of "apt-cache policy locales libc6" into a pastebin? |
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| 17:02.05 | chealer | stoni: locales does not need base-config |
| 17:02.13 | tremor | hello * |
| 17:02.19 | crow | Hi, i have this problem: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables , installed gcc |
| 17:02.31 | stoni | locales: |
| 17:02.32 | stoni | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.32 | stoni | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.32 | stoni | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.32 | stoni | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.32 | stoni | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:03.07 | fantomas | tarzeau: last theoretical question: am I free to take any fqdn for my host as far as it is specified in /etc/hosts? And do you recommend to use fake domain name (or rather not fake - just one to which my machine doesn't belong)? |
| 17:03.12 | chealer | crow: see the FAQ |
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| 17:03.30 | stew | !tell stoni about paster |
| 17:03.37 | tarzeau | fantomas: just make sure it doesn't conflict with dns |
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| 17:03.45 | fantomas | tarzeau: thank you |
| 17:03.47 | tarzeau | fantomas: if you use microsoft.com, you'll not be able to get to the real microsoft.com |
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| 17:04.01 | fantomas | tarzeau: yes, I see :) |
| 17:04.44 | liran_ | any ideas if the linux has support for the intel 945PM Express chipset? (its for a laptop: acer aspire 5562) |
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| 17:05.27 | stoni | stew http://pastebin.com/659871 |
| 17:05.28 | crow | chealer thnx :) |
| 17:05.55 | stoni | i always thought base-config was necessary i will try to remove |
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| 17:06.35 | chealer | liran_: there's certainly some support |
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| 17:06.45 | stew | stoni: no it is gone from testing / unstable; what exactly happens when you run apt-get install locales? |
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| 17:07.16 | stoni | stew requires me to remove base-config so now i have no problem |
| 17:10.01 | liran_ | chealer, well i'd like to be sure before i spend $2300 on a laptop and then find out i cant install linux on it :) |
| 17:10.10 | stoni | i have also another problem with xorg 7.0 which doesnt seem to accept any kesyboard layout |
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| 17:10.40 | stoni | i changed configuration file but doesnt work |
| 17:10.55 | crow | chealer: now missing checking for Tcl library... not found ; checking for Tcl header... {not found} ; Tcl cannot be found on this system. , i did apt-get install tcl8.4 and installed |
| 17:10.56 | stoni | also doesnt wortk setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc104 -layout es -option "" |
| 17:11.36 | chealer | crow: ask the channel, please |
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| 17:11.45 | crow | ok |
| 17:11.47 | ambroseL | liran_, if you can find that laptop in a store, bring a live linux cd like knoppix and try it in person |
| 17:12.00 | crow | I need to install eggdrop source this: now missing checking for Tcl library... not found ; checking for Tcl header... {not found} ; Tcl cannot be found on this system. , i did apt-get install tcl8.4 and installed |
| 17:12.07 | azeem | crow: you usually need the -dev package to build stuff |
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| 17:12.34 | azeem | Package: eggdrop |
| 17:12.37 | azeem | Build-Depends: tcl8.4-dev | tcl8.3-dev, libz-dev, debhelper (>> 4.1.0), cdbs |
| 17:12.44 | chealer | crow: why don't you use the binary packages? |
| 17:12.52 | stoni | http://pastebin.com/659886 |
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| 17:13.01 | xordali | how can i install KDE ??? |
| 17:13.07 | crow | chealer i wonna try latest RC1 realesse. |
| 17:13.08 | azeem | !kde |
| 17:13.08 | dpkg | from memory, kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
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| 17:13.19 | azeem | xordali: apt-get install kde |
| 17:13.20 | obscuresoul | moshii: i've got the audio cd plugin, but i can't play audio cds why? do you? |
| 17:13.21 | chealer | xordali: ask #debian-kde |
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| 17:13.27 | azeem | xordali: also, one question mark is enough in most cases |
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| 17:14.04 | crow | azeem thnx |
| 17:14.05 | chealer | crow: OK, well, you could at least refer to the Debian package's Build-Deps as azeem hints you |
| 17:14.06 | madjpm | little problem with the new xorg è, no more maj key on my keybord |
| 17:14.07 | xordali | apt-get not install depends ? why ? |
| 17:14.09 | pvh | Is anyone aware of any efforts to port Debian to run _on_ a digital camera? |
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| 17:14.28 | Eulex | what is the default priority set by swapon for a swap device? |
| 17:14.39 | chealer | xordali: what do you mean? apt-get should install dependencies |
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| 17:15.21 | AciD | what's the 'real' use for the debian-keyring package ? |
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| 17:15.57 | chealer | AciD: doesn't the package description let you guess? |
| 17:16.06 | ambroseL | Ok, it works now - (uninstalled and re-installed apt-proxy - dunno what the problem was). Now to upgrade |
| 17:16.25 | beardy | Eulex: I suppose it's the highest priority? |
| 17:16.27 | tedp | ambrose: you might like apt-cacher |
| 17:16.41 | xordali | chealer, http://xor.rullz.lv/apt_get_err.txt |
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| 17:17.02 | azeem | xordali: apt-get install those seperately |
| 17:17.10 | azeem | and then paste any errors again |
| 17:17.15 | chealer | xordali: which release do you use? |
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| 17:17.44 | xordali | testing |
| 17:18.08 | chealer | xordali: consider asking #debian-kde, and do as azeem said |
| 17:18.14 | Eulex | beardy, nope, man 2 swapon says that it's low |
| 17:18.46 | AciD | chealer > I meant, ok it's debian developer gpg keys, but does apt check them when used ? |
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| 17:19.38 | yepsppback | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.45 | chealer | AciD: "when used"? |
| 17:20.06 | AciD | when you use apt-get to install packages for instance |
| 17:20.22 | Eulex | yepsppback, GTFO spammer |
| 17:20.23 | chealer | AciD: if they're used to sign packages, I don't think APT will check them by default |
| 17:20.25 | xordali | how i can activate mouse in console ??? |
| 17:20.29 | beardy | Eulex: Ok. |
| 17:20.31 | beardy | !gpm |
| 17:20.34 | dpkg | [gpm] if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 17:20.36 | AciD | yepsppback > what's the trick ? |
| 17:20.36 | beardy | xordali: ^^^ |
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| 17:20.51 | beardy | well.. |
| 17:20.52 | daeos | im trying to transfer my database from one server to another , from windows to debian, and in doing so am trying to find a way to export my database and then import it into the new server, i have a nice large mysql command list, but not sure how to input it to mysql to have mysql read from a file... what option would i use for mysql to read from a text file? |
| 17:21.00 | beardy | xordali: See the package called "gpm". |
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| 17:21.57 | AciD | chealer > ok then, back to my first question, what the _real_ use for gpg keyrings if they aren't used automatically ? I guess nobody is fool enough to check by hand every single package he dl.. |
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| 17:23.20 | ootput | gah! after an update 10 minutes ago, nvidia-glx was uninstalled (unsolved dependencies) per aptitude. I'm using Sid, and startx fails to load |
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| 17:25.01 | beardy | !ops yepsppback, spammer |
| 17:25.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: yepsppback, spammer |
| 17:25.10 | nite613_ | daeos: mysql -u whatever -p < file |
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| 17:25.32 | coax | how can i keep a serten version of a package even thoug i try to upgrade? |
| 17:25.58 | chealer | !tell coax about hold |
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| 17:26.14 | AciD | oops |
| 17:26.28 | AciD | typed /me instead of hold |
| 17:26.29 | AciD | :\ |
| 17:26.29 | citral | in soviet russia, dpkg holds you |
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| 17:29.24 | roler | I have been having a problem playing videos in linux. The videos actually play fine. The colors are just bright and washed out. I am using the xine lib. Both gxine and totem are messed. I did find something out yesterday though. If I open gxine and just let it sit there, and then play a video using totem, the color displays PERFECTLY. If I close gxine, and re-open the video in totem, it's messed up again - being super bright and |
| 17:29.24 | roler | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.34 | corallis | I'm trying to make a new group that can edit the files inside of my /var/www/website folder... I added a new group, wwwadmin, and added my user to the group, then changed the owner of the /var/www/website folder to wwwadmin, and then chmoded the folder to 775.... why can't my user now create files inside of the directory? |
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| 17:30.19 | citral | corallis: you have to log out and login again to be in that group |
| 17:30.20 | maxb | corallis: Try running 'id' |
| 17:30.26 | cahoot | corallis: groups <user> displays what you intended? |
| 17:30.29 | stew | corallis: if you haven't logged out and back in since adding yourself to the group, you probably don't have the group privileges yet. either log out and back in or run "newgrp wwwadmin" |
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| 17:31.04 | maxb | 'id' will show you what groups your current session has associated with it |
| 17:31.44 | corallis | thanks guys... I didn't log out and log back in |
| 17:31.46 | chealer | AciD: it could save someone involved in Debian from downloading a bunch of keys. I don't know if the incoming system would use it automatically. check for example debsig-verify |
| 17:31.46 | bipolar | Is there a way to force a network interface to use a specific module? I'm running debian as a vmware guest and I want eth0 to use vmxnet instead of pcnet32. |
| 17:31.51 | corallis | it's all set now |
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| 17:32.08 | cahoot | bipolar: alias eth0 vmxnet? |
| 17:32.16 | xordali | why apt-get not install dependens ??? |
| 17:32.21 | bipolar | cahoot: in /etc/module.conf? |
| 17:32.37 | chealer | xordali: what do you mean? apt-get should install dependencies |
| 17:32.46 | chealer | !tell xordali about ep |
| 17:32.58 | AciD | chealer > thx |
| 17:33.08 | minerale | !tell minerale about ep |
| 17:33.29 | chealer | !tell minerale about selftell |
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| 17:33.50 | cahoot | bipolar: depends on kernel (/etc/modprobe.d/aliases if 2.6.x) |
| 17:34.03 | bipolar | cahoot: yes. it's 2.6 |
| 17:34.48 | xordali | if i write 'apt-get install mysql-server-5.0' it says "The following packages have unmet dependencies. mysql-server-5.0: Depends: mysql-client-5.0 (>= 5.0.19-3) but it is not going to be installed" |
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| 17:35.05 | xordali | apt-get not install depends? :( |
| 17:35.16 | ribnitz | Ok. back. |
| 17:35.25 | chealer | xordali: what is your native language? |
| 17:35.44 | ribnitz | The way to change sources ot sarge, and force the reinstall of xserver-xfree86 works. |
| 17:35.46 | xordali | sorry i come from Latvia :( |
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| 17:36.54 | Eulex | xordali, what does apt-get install mysql-client-5.0 say? |
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| 17:37.18 | bbeck | is there a command somewhere which can see the contents of the X clipboard? |
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| 17:37.28 | chealer | xordali: apt-get install tries to install dependencies, but it fails to do so in this case |
| 17:37.43 | bbeck | sorta like how OS X has the pbcopy/pbpaste commands |
| 17:37.57 | xordali | Eulex, apt-get install mysql-client-5.0 => The following packages have unmet dependencies. mysql-client-5.0: Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) but it is not going to be installed |
| 17:38.20 | cj | De_Mon: cute nick |
| 17:38.30 | xordali | and write E: Broken packages |
| 17:38.46 | Eulex | xordali, apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl? |
| 17:38.56 | cj | xordali: I blame ch@ :) |
| 17:39.05 | stew | bbeck: there is xclip but iirc it works with the selection, not the clipboard, don't know if that is what you are looking for |
| 17:39.16 | cj | speaking of ch@, anyone seen him? |
| 17:39.27 | bbeck | stew: that'll probably do enough for me for now. Thanks |
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| 17:39.47 | xordali | Eulex, apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl => The following packages have unmet dependencies. libdbd-mysql-perl: Depends: libmysqlclient15 but it is not installable |
| 17:39.49 | corallis | how would I prevent a user from being able to CD out of their home directory? |
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| 17:40.08 | beardy | corallis: Don't give him a shell. |
| 17:40.13 | minerale | bbeck: kilpper does that too |
| 17:40.19 | corallis | beardy: thanks |
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| 17:40.32 | luriel | hi |
| 17:40.45 | minerale | corallis: give them a restricted shell, such as rzsh |
| 17:40.46 | Eulex | xordali, apt-cache policy libdbd-mysql-perl? |
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| 17:41.11 | cj | corallis: edit your /etc/passwd file and point the last field to /dev/null |
| 17:41.14 | cj | or /bin/false |
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| 17:42.04 | ambrose | tedp - thanks for the pointer to apt-cacher - I'll give it a try |
| 17:42.06 | citral | corallis: may I ask you why you want to do that? |
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| 17:42.42 | minerale | corallis: or you can just cp bash rbash (bash will se it's running from a restricted shell and disallow cd's) |
| 17:42.43 | xordali | Eulex, apt-cache policy libdbd-mysql-perl => libdbd-mysql-perl: Installed: (none) Candidate: 3.0002-2 Version table: 3.0002-2 0 500 http://debian.inode.at etch/main Packages |
| 17:43.02 | Eulex | xordali, what architecture is this? |
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| 17:43.02 | beardy | minerale: What? |
| 17:43.04 | corallis | citral: I want to allow a certain user to SSH into my machine, but I don't want them to be able to access any files below their home directory |
| 17:43.07 | xordali | amd64 |
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| 17:43.28 | Hagfish | corallis: access? |
| 17:43.28 | xordali | Eulex, amd64 |
| 17:43.33 | Hagfish | you mean they can't run commands? |
| 17:43.35 | beardy | minerale: I hope you mean "create a symbolic link". |
| 17:43.37 | Hagfish | like ls? |
| 17:43.44 | Eulex | xordali, better wait until 3.0002-2+b1 comes into testing. that one will fix it. |
| 17:43.51 | corallis | Hagfish: I want to allow them to run commands, but only inside their home directory |
| 17:43.54 | retro_neo | is it normal that Sarge for amd64 doesn't support SATA? |
| 17:44.00 | tarzeau | retro_neo: yes |
| 17:44.10 | tarzeau | retro_neo: try kitame or your own kernel |
| 17:44.28 | Hagfish | corallis: so you want them to be able to run commands under /usr/bin ? |
| 17:44.40 | corallis | Hagfish: yes |
| 17:45.00 | Hagfish | corallis: looking at it another way, you just don't want them to read other user's files? |
| 17:45.15 | beardy | corallis: Basically, if you can't trust someone, don't let them use your box. |
| 17:45.16 | Eulex | xordali, it probably just got stuck in a buildd somewhere. |
| 17:45.27 | corallis | Hagfish: yes, you could put it that way heh |
| 17:45.31 | citral | corallis: I don't get your point. If you mean "I don't want them to see the files of othr users" then just adjust the permissions of /home/users directories |
| 17:46.06 | roler | I have been having a problem playing videos in linux. The videos actually play fine. The colors are just bright and washed out. I am using the xine lib. Both gxine and totem are messed. I did find something out yesterday though. If I open gxine and just let it sit there, and then play a video using totem, the color displays PERFECTLY. If I close gxine, and re-open the video in totem, it's messed up again - being super bright and |
| 17:46.06 | roler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:46.55 | peoro | hi |
| 17:47.06 | minerale | beardy: it does not matter how, symbolic link, copy, setting the first variable, if ARGV0 for starts w/ r: r {zsh,bash,ksh} the shell becomes restricted |
| 17:47.09 | tedp | sounds like a problem with your video drivers doing overlay |
| 17:47.33 | hgabert | I am having troubles upgrading udev |
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| 17:47.55 | skool | hi |
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| 17:48.09 | Hagfish | corallis: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html 4.10.11 |
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| 17:48.21 | Hagfish | i changed my default umask |
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| 17:49.01 | ribnitz | plug and play wih usb stuicks requires that I point out like 12 scsi device ids to the automounter? |
| 17:49.32 | beardy | minerale: True. But why waste diskspace? ;) |
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| 17:49.43 | corallis | Hagfish: thanks |
| 17:50.02 | peoro | i'd like downgrade xorg7 to xorg6.9... I tryed but i've some problem: after removing unstable repositories from source.list, when i try to install old xorg (6.9) from testing repositories apt says that i have to remove a lot of packages (kde, gnome, libimlib... whatever use x ) to install xorg 6.9 |
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| 17:50.09 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 17:50.09 | dpkg | it has been said that sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 17:50.19 | minerale | beardy: maybe I might be a dozen or so years younger than you are |
| 17:50.33 | tarzeau | peoro: you are about the 100st to ask this |
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| 17:50.37 | tarzeau | peoro: no you can't downgrade |
| 17:50.43 | peoro | mh |
| 17:50.46 | tarzeau | peoro: why do you upgrade if you don't want to upgrade? |
| 17:50.51 | peoro | sorry... i didn't know |
| 17:50.58 | tarzeau | peoro: it's in the /topic |
| 17:51.03 | beardy | minerale: If I may ask, how old are you? |
| 17:51.19 | peoro | err >,< really sorry |
| 17:51.21 | foo | I just hooked up my USB -> IDE cable for the first time. I plugged in a brand new hard drive. I am trying to find the location of the drive to mount it, but no luck. lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000. I usually see something like sda1 in the logs but I don't see anything. Any ideas? |
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| 17:53.51 | cj | foo: tail -f /var/log/kern.log |
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| 17:54.25 | foo | cj: oh, wow, never knew there was a kern.log, heh. |
| 17:54.25 | cj | foo: lsmod grep storage |
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| 17:54.33 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 17:54.33 | cj | er, lsmod | grep storage |
| 17:54.44 | cj | foo: basically the same as dmesg |
| 17:54.55 | foo | chii: http://pastebin.com/659955 |
| 17:54.56 | foo | cj: ah, ok |
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| 17:55.37 | cj | foo: if nothing comes of lsmod | grep storage, then sudo modprobe usb-storage |
| 17:55.51 | daeos | how can i mount a smbfs ? |
| 17:55.58 | tarzeau | daeos: with mount |
| 17:56.10 | tarzeau | daeos: //ip/share |
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| 17:56.17 | daeos | ok thanks |
| 17:56.18 | cj | foo: is that a powered hub? |
| 17:56.24 | tarzeau | daeos: smbmount shows an example |
| 17:56.34 | cj | foo: or unpowered? |
| 17:56.38 | cj | foo: are you using a usb hub? |
| 17:56.38 | foo | cj: oh, stuff comes up ... I just pasted it. Powered |
| 17:56.43 | foo | cj: No usb hub. |
| 17:56.44 | hashar | Daedalus_, i think you need "smbfs" package |
| 17:56.50 | foo | cj: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=USB2IDE-N&cat=CBL |
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| 17:57.02 | daeos | smbmount? |
| 17:57.04 | foo | cj: heh, the box actually says linux support. First thing i've ever bought that says linux support, he |
| 17:57.04 | daeos | ok |
| 17:57.19 | obscuresoul | how can i play audio cds with bmp? |
| 17:57.39 | zumbi | do you know a X11 app that scan wireless access points? something similar to iwiwlist eth1 scan ? |
| 17:57.58 | bliss1_ | sarge will not reboot please help here is bliss1@xstation:~$ dmesg | grep -i acpi here is patebin http://pastebin.ca/49325 |
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| 17:58.31 | gary | Can anyone recommend a clipboard manager other than Klipper? |
| 17:59.13 | cj | foo: there's some problem there. I get the same thing when I over-load an un-powered usb hub |
| 17:59.17 | cj | well. self-powered |
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| 17:59.37 | cj | foo: can you build usb-storeage with more debug info? :) |
| 17:59.44 | cj | s/eage/age/ |
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| 17:59.53 | foo | cj: hehe, one sec. The help says I need to put this drive on slave before I use it apparently. |
| 17:59.59 | cj | ha |
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| 18:01.49 | cj | foo: did that work? |
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| 18:04.28 | jshoenberger | Is there a log that keeps track of cron errors? |
| 18:04.32 | foo | cj: Bah, it was already on cable select. Hmm, Just unplugged and replugged, nothing in logs at all. Weird |
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| 18:05.11 | foo | cj: The little manual says to put the drive in slave, but I don't see a slave option for the jumper settings on this hard drive. hmm |
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| 18:06.24 | ultraviolet16 | hey everyone, I have etch installed and I installed a faulty kernel image. I wanted to log in to the machine through a live cd and install a different kernel version. I was hoping someone would help me out on how to go about that |
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| 18:07.09 | gnufan | ultraviolet16: can you not just boot the old kernel version? |
| 18:07.40 | ultraviolet16 | it gets hung up on the "looking for root file system part" |
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| 18:07.53 | foo | cj: Yeah, bah. Shoot. Any more ideas? This manual does say to partition and format the drive before use. I thought I could do that via this cable, though. |
| 18:07.57 | cj | foo: drives usually have master/slave jumper settings on the top of them what type of drive is it? |
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| 18:08.11 | ultraviolet16 | gnufan: then I try logging in with an older kernel version "recovery mode" and I get a prompt but no way of getting online.. it doesn't recognize my orinoco card |
| 18:08.13 | cj | foo: yeah, partition and format should not be a problem |
| 18:08.43 | ultraviolet16 | gnufan: so I can't actually apt-get a new kernel |
| 18:08.44 | syntrx | ultraviolet16: try passing "root=/dev/hda1 single" (or whatever your root device is) to knoppix at the boot loader prompt |
| 18:08.49 | foo | cj: Seagate 200GB. Yeah, I saw the settings, but all I see is master=on/slave=off, cable select, and limits drive capacity to 32 Gbytes |
| 18:09.10 | cj | foo: got a digital camera? |
| 18:09.16 | foo | cj: yup |
| 18:09.22 | cj | snap me a picture |
| 18:09.24 | syntrx | so the system will come up using the knoppix kernel, and your drives so you can hopefully get in and fix it |
| 18:09.26 | ultraviolet16 | syntrx: cool, i'm downloading backtrack now, should I just get knoppix? |
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| 18:09.43 | syntrx | ultraviolet16: doesn't matter, anything that you can boot from that has a linux kernel |
| 18:09.47 | gnufan | ultraviolet16: I'd go with the prompt, rather than a liveCD. Did you try loading the Orinoco drivers manually, probably "/etc/init.d/pcmcia start" "/etc/init.d/networking start" or similar may do the trick |
| 18:10.02 | cj | ultraviolet16: try #wireless, btw |
| 18:10.07 | testi | strange, i have to install both the proprietary deb-packages for the nvidia-drivers AND the installer from nvidia :> |
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| 18:10.11 | syntrx | ahh, damn |
| 18:10.12 | ultraviolet16 | syntrx: i can mount the partition.. but the idea is that i don't know how to install the kernel after that.. i mean if i try runing apt-get should it work? |
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| 18:10.50 | syntrx | are you mounting the partition from knoppix, or are you just using the knoppix cd to bootstrap your system? |
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| 18:11.05 | ultraviolet16 | well i'de like to bootstrap it actually.. |
| 18:11.09 | foo | cj: Hmm, did you want me to take a picture of it? I mean, I pretty much described to you what it says. hmm. Weird. |
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| 18:11.25 | ultraviolet16 | cj: thanks, i'm going to try now.. |
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| 18:13.03 | deadcat | someone help with my font please: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png <-- can someone tell me why the hilighted section doesnt look like the section with the happy face? they used to all look like the happy face section |
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| 18:13.43 | ultraviolet16 | gnufan i'm going to try and run those commands to get into the prompt.. thanks all for help |
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| 18:14.40 | foo | Ah, I think I got it. Apr 14 11:13:54 localhost kernel: scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage device ... that's sda2, right? I do fdisk -l /dev/sda2 and it shows nothing. I think I got it, hmm. |
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| 18:17.04 | bkudria | i still seem to be experiencing #361890 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361890) as descibed on http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable, even though i've upgraded...none of my gtk apps (inkscape, firefox) start...is anyone else seeing this? |
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| 18:17.54 | ojai | I've got a user that's chewing up most of my bandwith -- how do I block this user's IP from connecting to a certain IP w/ iptables? |
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| 18:18.48 | anabain | chealer, no success, :( . I've reinstalled etch's kernel imatge with dpkg -i and got this when booting: pivot_root:No such file or directory pivot_root:No such file or directory Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 18:18.49 | r_marvin | iptables -I FORWARD -s $usersip -d $destip -j REJECT |
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| 18:19.08 | ojai | iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.15 -d 192.168.1.30 -j DROP is what I tried |
| 18:19.18 | ojai | ah, ok |
| 18:19.43 | shogunx | anabain, you need an initrd |
| 18:19.52 | r_marvin | ojai: not -A , it probably is already accepted somewhere up |
| 18:20.11 | r_marvin | preferably edit your firewall script |
| 18:20.18 | bkudria | specifically, firefox gives me: http://pastebin.com/660020 ...is the same problem, or something else? |
| 18:20.24 | ojai | gotcha. so the -I takes precedence then? |
| 18:20.31 | ojai | and the -A just appends existing rules? |
| 18:20.37 | chealer | anabain: hum. I don't think I can help you, but did stock kernels use to boot when the root fs was reiser? |
| 18:20.37 | r_marvin | -I inserts as first rule, unless specified |
| 18:20.43 | r_marvin | -A = append |
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| 18:20.49 | r_marvin | man iptables for some more |
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| 18:21.16 | anabain | yes, chealer |
| 18:21.17 | r_marvin | btw, what's the Debian-approved way to firewall |
| 18:21.19 | r_marvin | ? |
| 18:21.20 | ojai | cool -- thanks! I thought I was roughly close but it wasn't doing the trick :) |
| 18:22.12 | bkudria | r_marvin: i really like firehol |
| 18:22.28 | bkudria | r_marvin: firehol.sf.net has a good guide |
| 18:22.39 | bkudria | r_marvin: and it works perfectly for me in debian |
| 18:22.43 | r_marvin | bkudria: no, i mean the PROPER way |
| 18:22.49 | r_marvin | i use a custom init script |
| 18:22.54 | r_marvin | written in bash |
| 18:22.55 | bkudria | r_marvin: oh...no clue :) |
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| 18:24.09 | cahoot | deadcat: the percieved problem is the same for all users? |
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| 18:26.22 | Teo | alguém fala portugês? |
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| 18:26.36 | bkudria | i still seem to be experiencing #361890 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361890) as descibed on http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable, even though i've upgraded...none of my gtk apps (inkscape, firefox) start...is anyone else seeing this? specifically, firefox gives me: http://pastebin.com/660020 ...is the same problem, or something else? |
| 18:26.55 | bkudria | Teo: #debian-pt? |
| 18:26.57 | bliss1_ | sarge will not reboot please help |
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| 18:27.15 | ultimated | How do i inatall a mail server on localhost? |
| 18:27.17 | bkudria | bliss1_: what are you doing, exactly? |
| 18:27.31 | bkudria | ultimated: apt-get install, as root, installs things |
| 18:27.50 | andreiutz | i want to start vnc viewer but when i double click the file i get this output : Couldn't display "/home/andrei/Desktop/Download/vnc-E4_1_9-x86_linux_viewer". |
| 18:27.52 | andreiutz | why ? |
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| 18:28.19 | bkudria | andreiutz: where did you get this file? |
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| 18:28.29 | bkudria | andreiutz: debian has a vncviewer package... |
| 18:28.30 | Teo | bkudria: obrigado |
| 18:28.41 | tuvwx | whenever i login into gnome and start a terminal, it hangs until i kill esd! i'm running esd over alsa.. am i missing something? |
| 18:28.44 | andreiutz | bkudria, i just downloaded from www.realvnc.com |
| 18:28.49 | ultimated | How do i install and setup a mail server on localhost? |
| 18:28.49 | tuvwx | almost everything else (other than the terminal) does the same, but i'm testing with the terminal |
| 18:29.12 | myxie | ultimated: apt-get update; apt-get installe exim4 exim-doc |
| 18:29.16 | myxie | or similar |
| 18:29.17 | andreiutz | bkudria, how can i install the debian vnc viewer package ? |
| 18:29.20 | myxie | exim4-doc |
| 18:29.21 | sigma957 | ultimated: pick a server, google a debian setup for it, and apt-get install it. I use exim |
| 18:29.26 | bkudria | andreiutz: as root, run "apt-get install xvncviewer" |
| 18:29.36 | andreiutz | bkudria, thanks |
| 18:29.46 | ojai | r_marvin: yeah, it's kind of annoying not having a default init script for iptables even though it's installed isn't it? |
| 18:29.47 | bkudria | andreiutz: sure |
| 18:30.15 | bliss1_ | bkudria: well it says on the screen rrebooting.... screen goes blank but computer stays on must switch off at mains |
| 18:30.16 | r_marvin | ojai: iptables is just the tool to configure netfilter |
| 18:30.26 | myxie | exim4-config exim4-doc-html |
| 18:30.37 | ultimated | thanks |
| 18:30.50 | ultimated | myxie one more thing... |
| 18:30.54 | bkudria | bliss1_: oh...i'm not sure how to solve that... |
| 18:30.57 | r_marvin | it's like whining about not having an init script for , say, grep |
| 18:31.05 | bkudria | bliss1_: probably an apm/acpi issue |
| 18:31.10 | ultimated | myxie you know about php installation and apache security? |
| 18:31.13 | bkudria | bliss1_: not my expertise, sorry |
| 18:31.19 | ne0futur | hi all |
| 18:31.29 | ne0futur | can someone tell me a tool to convert mp3 to ogg ? |
| 18:31.36 | yanmorin | mp32ogg |
| 18:31.43 | ekkikrist | don't do that |
| 18:31.49 | sigma957 | bliss1_:how are you rebooting? shutdown -r now? |
| 18:31.58 | bliss1_ | bkudria: ok thanks been trying for several days |
| 18:32.03 | ne0futur | yanmorin: it was so simple ;) thanks |
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| 18:32.24 | bliss1_ | sigma957: yep |
| 18:32.26 | yanmorin | the complicated part is to install it ;p |
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| 18:32.45 | myxie | I tracked my AMD64 boot issue down to the udevsynthesi[sz]e step of initramfs-tools. Some module gets loaded and then the disks go crazy. |
| 18:32.50 | bkudria | bliss1_: sure...sorry i couldn't help |
| 18:33.01 | sigma957 | bliss1_ sorry, not sure. :( |
| 18:33.18 | bliss1_ | bkudria: yes thanks for trying |
| 18:33.23 | xored | when i send a post request to a URL, and the result is empty, why is he closing the connection gracefully ? iam using a socket ( indy ) to do so |
| 18:33.27 | bliss1_ | sigma957: ok |
| 18:33.37 | bkudria | Teo: "boa vida" :) |
| 18:33.57 | bliss1_ | with many people here 811 you would think someone might know |
| 18:34.03 | bkudria | i still seem to be experiencing #361890 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361890) as descibed on http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable, even though i've upgraded...none of my gtk apps (inkscape, firefox) start...is anyone else seeing this? specifically, firefox gives me: http://pastebin.com/660020 ...is the same problem, or something else? |
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| 18:36.56 | bliss1_ | liable: did you sort your problem out? |
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| 18:38.05 | pSyONiDe | hello all |
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| 18:38.36 | pSyONiDe | can someone help me figure out somthing stupid? |
| 18:38.51 | pSyONiDe | I'm trying to find a list of the packages I need to install to compile software |
| 18:38.54 | bkudria | pSyONiDe: just ask |
| 18:39.08 | bkudria | pSyONiDe: install build-essential |
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| 18:39.18 | pSyONiDe | I'm actually using ubuntu, but the ppl un #ubuntu on efnet don't seem to talk... |
| 18:39.21 | bkudria | pSyONiDe: it depends on all of them |
| 18:39.26 | pSyONiDe | okm thanks |
| 18:39.33 | bkudria | ... |
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| 18:39.44 | jennifer2 | hi all |
| 18:39.52 | jennifer2 | please someone help me? |
| 18:39.52 | cj | howdy jennifer2 |
| 18:39.58 | cj | jennifer2: sup? |
| 18:40.10 | jennifer2 | I have problem with GNOME, KDE, E... |
| 18:40.26 | jennifer2 | My desktop can't load 100 % |
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| 18:40.32 | pSyONiDe | bku: looks like that's it, we'll see in a few :) |
| 18:40.40 | Eulex | pSyONiDe, I think the main ubuntu channel is here on freenode. go take a look in #ubuntu. |
| 18:40.45 | cj | jennifer2: where's it hanging? |
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| 18:40.56 | jennifer2 | my start menu is locke and my desktop icons are hidde |
| 18:41.09 | pSyONiDe | thanks again |
| 18:41.28 | jennifer2 | And sometime show the error "gnome-panel already load" |
| 18:41.33 | cj | jennifer2: hmmm... how much memory does your system have? What type of processor? |
| 18:41.38 | bkudria | pSyONiDe: sure |
| 18:41.50 | jennifer2 | cj, PIV Celeron |
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| 18:41.58 | jennifer2 | cj, 512 MB |
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| 18:43.17 | Eulex | jennifer2, could you describe the problem a little bit more throughly? what can you do and what can you not do? |
| 18:43.22 | jennifer2 | IfI try load with KDE, the system stop when tell me "Starting System services" |
| 18:44.04 | jennifer2 | Eulex, The start menu are locket under GNOME or KDE, and the descktop icons are hidden |
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| 18:44.46 | cj | jennifer2: $ free | grep "^Mem" | awk '{print $2}' && cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(name|MHz)' |
| 18:44.57 | Eulex | jennifer2, when kde hangs while loading, can you still move the mouse? can you access the linux console with ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 18:45.11 | jennifer2 | Eulex, yes |
| 18:45.23 | Eulex | cj, her system should be perfectly good enough to run both gnome and kde |
| 18:45.28 | cj | jennifer2: it might be best to stop gdm and try debugging X with a terminal |
| 18:45.30 | jennifer2 | Eulex, I am iunder console now |
| 18:45.32 | cj | Eulex: seems that way |
| 18:45.41 | Eulex | jennifer2, you could try taking a look in .xsession-errors |
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| 18:45.54 | jennifer2 | Eulex, can you access me by ssh for help me? |
| 18:46.09 | Eulex | jennifer2, no, I won't do that |
| 18:46.48 | jennifer2 | ok |
| 18:46.56 | jennifer2 | .xsession-errors ? |
| 18:47.07 | Eulex | jennifer2, yes |
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| 18:47.26 | Eulex | jennifer2, you could also take a look in the logs in /var/log/, particularly the syslog |
| 18:47.38 | jennifer2 | Xorg.0.log arefine |
| 18:47.40 | jennifer2 | are fine |
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| 18:48.05 | cj | jennifer2: X sounds like it's fine. it's probably something after gdm spawns you a session |
| 18:48.58 | jennifer2 | cj, I tryed start by gdm or kdm but the problem already |
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| 18:50.11 | jennifer2 | Eulex how can I locate the error? |
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| 18:50.48 | Eulex | jennifer2, look in the logs that I just pointed you at |
| 18:50.50 | prock | I've got a PCI raid controller in my server but can see the disks in debian... any tips on how to start troubleshooting this? |
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| 18:50.55 | cj | jennifer2: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 18:51.01 | cj | jennifer2: sudo X & |
| 18:51.09 | Eulex | cj, that should be ok |
| 18:51.11 | cj | jennifer2: xterm& |
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| 18:51.14 | tienchi | hi, someone knows how to set font anti-aliasing in Gnome?? please |
| 18:51.24 | jennifer2 | ok cj |
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| 18:51.30 | cj | jennifer2: then alt-f7 |
| 18:51.37 | cj | run gnome-session from the terminal |
| 18:51.42 | Eulex | tienchi, go into the font settings and select anti-aliased fonts? |
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| 18:51.52 | jennifer2 | cj,can you help me by ssh? |
| 18:52.00 | tuvwx | esd makes cpu usage 100% once i start any application after i login, and hangs that application until esd is killed |
| 18:52.01 | valdyn | tienchi: run gnome-font-properties |
| 18:52.13 | tuvwx | why would esd do that? |
| 18:52.20 | cj | jennifer2: I'd prefer not to. I'm at work now and am, by helping you, slacking. I'd have to slack more to connect via ssh. |
| 18:52.22 | valdyn | tuvwx: esd is a pos, dont use it |
| 18:52.26 | tienchi | Eulex, there is not coming setting for this |
| 18:52.27 | cahoot | tuvwx: ask alan cox |
| 18:52.28 | Eulex | tuvwx, because audio servers are evil? |
| 18:52.35 | tienchi | valdyn, you mean??? |
| 18:52.41 | valdyn | !pos |
| 18:52.41 | dpkg | i guess pos is defined as Piece Of Shit. or Point of Sale |
| 18:52.43 | petemc | valdyn: esd can be quite useful |
| 18:52.57 | tuvwx | Eulex, i want sounds for events.. any other optoins? |
| 18:52.59 | cj | petemc: but there are better ways to do it :) |
| 18:53.04 | cj | tuvwx: alsa |
| 18:53.07 | valdyn | petemc: nothing that different solutions do better |
| 18:53.12 | petemc | cj: depends what you mean by "it" |
| 18:53.18 | valdyn | petemc: ops, dont do better ) |
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| 18:53.36 | petemc | valdyn: what would you use for networked sound? |
| 18:53.40 | tuvwx | cj, i alredy have alsa.... alsa provides access to sound hardware, but does not do sounds for events, does it? |
| 18:53.50 | tuvwx | btw, i'm running esd on top of alsa |
| 18:53.58 | cj | petemc: provide a single-point-of-entry for sound devices |
| 18:54.00 | tuvwx | using libesd-alsa0 |
| 18:54.12 | valdyn | petemc: no idea right now |
| 18:54.23 | petemc | esd does that well.. |
| 18:54.34 | petemc | it does seem to cause a lot of problems, ill admit |
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| 18:55.02 | w3rdn4 | when I type make into bash |
| 18:55.05 | w3rdn4 | it says command not found |
| 18:55.22 | Eulex | !installit |
| 18:55.22 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 18:55.24 | tuvwx | esd used to work fine for me, but yesterday i had my harddrive replaced and installed a fresh debian/testing.. since then i've been trying to convince esd to cut it out |
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| 18:55.36 | valdyn | tuvwx: you need esd or polypaudio for that, but polypaudio is broken too as far as i know it |
| 18:55.40 | cj | w3rdn4: what Eulex is trying to tell you is: sudo apt-get install make |
| 18:55.45 | tienchi | Eulex, what you say is under KDE?? |
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| 18:56.11 | Esaj_ | any thoughts on exim vs postfix? |
| 18:56.13 | Eulex | tienchi, no, there should be font settings in gnome where you can select how your fonts should look |
| 18:56.27 | w3rdn4 | what is the benifit of using sudo over su |
| 18:56.33 | Eulex | cj, no, I'm "trying" to make him think himself. |
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| 18:56.42 | petemc | Esaj_: try them both, see what you prefer, theres not much between the two in terms of functionality |
| 18:56.49 | cj | Eulex: not everyone is as experienced as you... |
| 18:56.50 | tienchi | Eulex, yes, but i can see the anti-aliasing setting :( |
| 18:56.57 | cj | Eulex: not everyone has heard of "apt-get install" |
| 18:57.00 | tienchi | Eulex, i can not* |
| 18:57.00 | Damon | hi all |
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| 18:57.20 | Esaj_ | petemc: ok. I wish there was something to tip the balance :) |
| 18:57.21 | Teo | mouse usb não detecta no debian alguém pode me ajudar? |
| 18:57.22 | cj | howdy Damon |
| 18:57.24 | Eulex | tienchi, sorry, I'm not a gnome expert |
| 18:57.35 | valdyn | tienchi: run gnome-font-properties as you were told? |
| 18:57.43 | cj | tienchi: have you checked #gnome? |
| 18:57.49 | Damon | i have a simple question. |
| 18:57.50 | cj | tienchi: or irc.gnome.org's #gnome? |
| 18:58.07 | tienchi | valdyn, yes .. no setting |
| 18:58.10 | cj | tienchi: debian distributes gnome, but we're certainly not the experts :) |
| 18:58.15 | Eulex | cj, then he/she should be tought it. not just given commands. I would have done that if he had asked further. |
| 18:58.25 | valdyn | tienchi: no setting? you joking? click the 'advanced' button? |
| 18:58.34 | cj | Eulex: how is giving a command not teaching? |
| 18:58.38 | Teo | mouse usb not detect in debian sarge 3 helpme |
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| 18:58.55 | tienchi | valdyn, no "advanced"..... |
| 18:58.56 | valdyn | tienchi: nevermind, you dont even need to click any advanced button |
| 18:58.56 | cj | Teo: lsmod | grep -i usbmouse |
| 18:59.09 | Eulex | cj, how is giving someone a command which he copies and pastes into a terminal and then presses enter teaching? |
| 18:59.11 | valdyn | tienchi: run it, post a screenshot |
| 18:59.11 | Damon | I use debian 3.1 with apache,php,postfix etc. eg. in php the mail() fv. not working. |
| 18:59.15 | Teo | cj: thanks |
| 18:59.32 | tienchi | valdyn, how to post a screenshot here? |
| 18:59.32 | cj | Teo: we ain't done yet :) |
| 18:59.38 | valdyn | !screenshot |
| 18:59.38 | dpkg | screenshot is, like, 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
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| 18:59.46 | bkudria | is anyone else having trouble with gtk apps on sid? all mine crash with (for example, firefox): http://pastebin.com/660020 |
| 18:59.55 | cj | Teo: that's the old module name anyway... :) |
| 19:00.07 | cj | lsmod | grep usbhid |
| 19:00.17 | cj | Teo: you get any output? |
| 19:00.40 | tarzeau | http://i2.tinypic.com/qx3tdk.jpg |
| 19:00.46 | Teo | cj: i dont speak english, only the basic and very bad lol |
| 19:00.48 | Teo | hhehehehhe |
| 19:00.56 | amee2k | how can i add a second IPv4 address to an interface? |
| 19:01.02 | Eulex | !br |
| 19:01.02 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 19:01.10 | Eulex | Teo, ask them? ^^ |
| 19:01.30 | Teo | o debian dr não tem ninguém |
| 19:01.31 | Damon | I use debian 3.1 with apache,php,postfix etc. eg. in php the mail() fv. not working. |
| 19:01.40 | Teo | to tentando pagar alguma coisa aqui |
| 19:01.47 | Eulex | Teo, dpkg is a bot. |
| 19:01.48 | da5id_ | hi, im running debian testing and gnome, I want to use xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver, so i (un)installed the respective packages. The xscreensaver deamon is however not started. After I go into gnome settings >> screensaver, the deamon is started, but for that session only. what is the best way to start the xscreensaver every session? |
| 19:01.55 | Eulex | Teo, /join #debian-br |
| 19:01.56 | cj | Teo: mi español es mui terrible tambien :) |
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| 19:02.22 | Eulex | cj, es no español |
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| 19:02.24 | stew | amee2k: do you want to add an alias which would appear as a second interface or do you want to add an ip to an existing interface? |
| 19:02.28 | bkudria | cj: noy mui, but muy :) and same here... |
| 19:02.30 | Eulex | *no es |
| 19:02.34 | bkudria | cj: not* |
| 19:02.47 | cj | da5id_: System->preferences->sessions |
| 19:02.49 | streuner | !sunday |
| 19:02.50 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 19:02.57 | cj | bkudria: heh, mine's worse :) |
| 19:03.04 | Teo | cj: thacks you are a good man hehehehe |
| 19:03.10 | bkudria | is anyone else having trouble with gtk apps on sid? all mine crash with (for example, firefox): http://pastebin.com/660020 |
| 19:03.11 | cj | Teo: danke :) |
| 19:03.24 | cj | bkudria: I've tired of sid :) |
| 19:03.26 | valdyn | bkudria: read the topic |
| 19:03.31 | cj | bkudria: my new pain is dapper |
| 19:03.33 | amee2k | stew: i want it to have two IP addresses |
| 19:03.35 | Damon | cj: I use debian 3.1 with apache,php,postfix etc. eg. in php the mail() fv. not working. |
| 19:03.44 | paxl | Can somone help me with mencoder.. why do I get this error [mpeg2video @ 0xb7df2bc8]Warning: AVFrame.pts=? trying to guess (1930) ? |
| 19:03.48 | amee2k | like when i configure two ip addresses for the same interface in windows |
| 19:03.49 | odla | cj: dapper isn't debian |
| 19:04.11 | stew | amee2k: "ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0" if you want that to happen whenever eth0 is brought up, add it to an "up" line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:04.19 | cj | odla: quit with the religious fervor. I never said it was. |
| 19:04.22 | r_marvin | Damon: this is done through php.ini , iirc |
| 19:04.23 | amee2k | if this results in a pseudo interface or not isn't important |
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| 19:04.53 | petemc | stew: is that prefered over just adding a "normal" entry in /e/n/i ? |
| 19:04.55 | odla | cj: i didn't know i was talking about religion...but it is good friday i guess |
| 19:05.10 | r_marvin | Damon: can you send mail with "echo hello | mail -s subject your@address" ? |
| 19:05.10 | bkudria | valdyn: i did |
| 19:05.14 | cj | odla: sid = pain, dapper = pain. that's all I'm saying :) |
| 19:05.14 | stew | petemc: i asked which he wanted and he said 2 ips on one interface |
| 19:05.15 | Damon | r_marvin i checked, but this uncommented, the default value is the sendmail location, but I use postfix |
| 19:05.19 | bkudria | valdyn: i still seem to be experiencing #361890 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361890) as descibed on http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable, even though i've upgraded...none of my gtk apps (inkscape, firefox) start... |
| 19:05.25 | petemc | stew: ah, right |
| 19:05.29 | stew | amee2k: if you want a pseudo interface you can add a stanza to /etc/network/interfaces for eth0:1, there are examples of that in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples |
| 19:05.38 | r_marvin | it doesn't matter, all mta's have the sendmail binary :) |
| 19:05.42 | cj | odla: the comparison of ubuntu and debian and rejection of such comparison is religious talk in my book :) |
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| 19:06.04 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:06.04 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:06.05 | amee2k | stew: the ip add command worked. thank you |
| 19:06.38 | Damon | r_marvin realy ?;) |
| 19:06.46 | Damon | r_marvin check :) |
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| 19:07.07 | odla | tarzeau: you played bub-n-bros lately? |
| 19:07.18 | tarzeau | odla: haven't for quite some time. let's do some? |
| 19:07.24 | tarzeau | odla: but i've played brutalchess alot |
| 19:07.33 | tarzeau | odla: but i keep winning against the computer. you play chess? |
| 19:07.43 | tarzeau | odla: guess i should play some more nethack again |
| 19:07.49 | Damon | r_marvin what is your default value in php.ini ? |
| 19:07.51 | r_marvin | Damon: look at /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 19:07.52 | tarzeau | odla: i'll test toycars soon |
| 19:08.01 | odla | tarzeau: i play a little chess not much |
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| 19:08.16 | Damon | r_marvin i found the sendmail at /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 19:08.19 | r_marvin | that's postfix, but it's called sendmail for historic reason |
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| 19:09.06 | r_marvin | Damon: use that sendmail, it will work. trust me :) |
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| 19:09.23 | Damon | r_marvin ahh ok, i need the -t -i switches ?:) |
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| 19:09.28 | daft | How can i make trough a terminal (ssh) an vnc to my current Xserver |
| 19:09.37 | daft | kde |
| 19:09.39 | r_marvin | just uncomment it and leave it as it is |
| 19:09.51 | r_marvin | it mimicks the original sendmail |
| 19:10.05 | Damon | ok |
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| 19:13.20 | foo | Hmm, anyway to have it so whenever I stick in a new usb drive or something it automatically gets a folder created and mounted in /mnt ? Hmm |
| 19:13.54 | petemc | foo: install usbmount |
| 19:14.04 | Damon | r_marvin ok, working fine :) |
| 19:14.04 | tralala | foo: autofs could do |
| 19:14.14 | Damon | r_marvin thanks your help :) |
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| 19:15.32 | yosef | Hi, |
| 19:15.35 | Damon | hi |
| 19:15.53 | yosef | What is the differant between the kernel 2.4 and 2.6? |
| 19:16.05 | yosef | damon: how are you? |
| 19:16.06 | tarzeau | yosef: alot |
| 19:16.15 | petemc | yosef: 2.6 is the latest "stable" kernel |
| 19:16.15 | bkudria | yosef: a lot |
| 19:16.17 | tralala | yosef: 2.6 is considered current |
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| 19:17.00 | yosef | 2.6 is not working in my pc, that why I install 2.4 |
| 19:17.10 | yosef | But what differant? |
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| 19:17.15 | Damon | yosef fine |
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| 19:17.44 | foo | petemc, tralala: thanks |
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| 19:18.02 | tralala | yosef: if you are fine with 2.4 then I see no problem |
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| 19:18.24 | r_marvin | Damon: told ya :) |
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| 19:18.46 | yosef | tralala: But what differant? 2.4 is 775 kb and 2.6 is 1.8mb! |
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| 19:18.57 | Damon | r_marvin I try this 3 days:) LOL :) |
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| 19:19.07 | Damon | just simple uncomment ehh :) |
| 19:19.10 | Techie-Micheal_ | I've got a freshly installed netinstall 3.1R1 2.4 kernel that seg faults when I do apt-get install. I have to do apt-cache search for what I want to install first. For example, I did apt-cache search mysql-server-4.1 then apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 libmysqlclient14-dev and it segfaulted. I had to do apt-cache search libmysqlclient14-dev before I could install through apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 libmysqlclient14-dev |
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| 19:21.16 | yosef | Also another thing please, When I make add network adapter , he is not finding my wireless adapter? why |
| 19:21.32 | yosef | so I don't have wireless in my pc |
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| 19:22.49 | petemc | yosef: you would need to check that, a) your wirelss card is supported, and b) you have the required modules available in your kernel |
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| 19:23.13 | petemc | yosef: ndiswrapper adds support for a lot of perviously unsupported cards |
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| 19:23.47 | yosef | petemc: I have 2.4 kernel, I remember that I load all module |
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| 19:24.17 | yosef | petemc: the wireless in my laptop, I don't if it's supported or not |
| 19:24.43 | petemc | yosef: you're going to need to do a fair bit of reading, start with the output of lspci |
| 19:24.56 | stickystyle | Does anyone know where i can find a previous patch file for a source package? I need the libpam-krb5 1.2.0-2.diff file, but since 1.2.0-3 got moved into testing i cannot find the .diff file anywhere. Is there some place that keeps a repository of previous versions? |
| 19:25.07 | yosef | petemc: Does old kernel support wireless? |
| 19:25.10 | valdyn | !sdn |
| 19:25.10 | dpkg | from memory, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 19:25.12 | tralala | yosef: a lot is different but as long as you have what you need it doesn't matter. |
| 19:25.13 | usn | good evening |
| 19:26.20 | yosef | tralala: Thank you |
| 19:26.43 | cyzie | anybody has site that allow user to calculate the power comsumption by computer hardware? i would prefer a site that has a calculator rather than i calculate myself. thanks |
| 19:27.03 | yosef | petemc: What does " you're going to need to do" mean? I never had this sentense before in my life! |
| 19:27.45 | valdyn | cyzie: do you have /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state ? |
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| 19:28.19 | cyzie | valdyn, no i dont. why is that so? |
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| 19:28.36 | valdyn | cyzie: because it could tell you your power consumption |
| 19:28.53 | Eulex | yosef, "you will need to read a fair bit" |
| 19:28.57 | valdyn | cyzie: other than that you probably not a power meter between your box and the power outlet |
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| 19:29.05 | valdyn | s/not/need/ |
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| 19:29.55 | yosef | Eluex: it it book fire bit? |
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| 19:30.14 | valdyn | cyzie: no way you can 'calculate' power usage on commodity non-laptop hardware |
| 19:30.18 | miki | m |
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| 19:31.02 | Eulex | yosef, eh? |
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| 19:31.13 | petemc | yosef: a fair bit = a large amount , use google to find guides on the web |
| 19:31.15 | jammyflynn20 | i need some help |
| 19:31.46 | jammyflynn20 | im trying to install nvidia drivers but get the error server x is running |
| 19:31.48 | vin` | anyone figured out how to get the buttons back in some K apps? |
| 19:32.06 | cyzie | valdyn, if i have a powermeter with me, how do i measure correctly and safely ? |
| 19:32.38 | deejoe | jammyflynn20: got a virtual terminal and do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" |
| 19:32.41 | gnufan | Is there a command line spell checker? Or lightweight gui, if I want to spell check a lot of text files (in US or UK English), something that'll flag up likely candidate misspellings, and can be told to ignore via regexp, or other simple patterns? |
| 19:32.44 | valdyn | cyzie: you're seriously confusing me with these silly questions, just use the power meter to measure power usage, that is what a power meter does by definition |
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| 19:33.24 | deejoe | gnufan: ispell? |
| 19:33.55 | cyzie | valdyn, WHICH point to tap to measure in the PSU ? |
| 19:33.56 | deejoe | cyzie: something like the KillAWatt might work for you. |
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| 19:34.05 | cyzie | ... |
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| 19:34.10 | deejoe | cyzie: you can't do it that way, it has to be a passhtrough |
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| 19:34.44 | yosef | petemc: You are right, But I don't know what to read first! |
| 19:34.45 | valdyn | cyzie: you plug it in between your power source and your box to measure the whole power usage |
| 19:35.05 | cyzie | valdyn, got it. thanks |
| 19:35.05 | valdyn | cyzie: you should probably consult someone with a tad clue about what electricity is and how it works to do this.. |
| 19:35.11 | gnufan | deejoe: possibly -- seem to have a lot of ispell related packaged, but no ispell... hmm |
| 19:35.33 | deejoe | cyzie: a multimeter, which seems to be what you are thinking about, will measure voltage or resistance. You need to measure current over time, which is power. |
| 19:35.34 | jammyflynn20 | ive got kernal source problems |
| 19:36.33 | Eulex | !kernal |
| 19:36.33 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 19:37.03 | tralala | !debina |
| 19:37.03 | dpkg | from memory, debina is debian when you're typing too fast, or see "debain" |
| 19:37.17 | tralala | !irritate me |
| 19:37.17 | dpkg | tralala: hi every1 who uses cable lol |
| 19:37.51 | valdyn | !kernal |
| 19:37.51 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 19:37.52 | deejoe | gnufan: aptitutude install ispell ought to do it, no? |
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| 19:38.03 | deejoe | well, if you can spell aptitude better than I can :-) |
| 19:38.03 | robin_sz | deejoe: going off tpic .. but current over tiem is NOT power .. |
| 19:38.16 | jammyflynn20 | ok im trying to install nvidia but ------- no precompiled interface was found ----- what do i do |
| 19:38.17 | deejoe | robin_sz: fair enough |
| 19:38.34 | gnufan | deejoe: yes -- trying it --- looks plausible -- see how it copes with the text I throw at it. |
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| 19:39.15 | tralala | /"/say !tell nvidia-one-liner -about " |
| 19:39.16 | robin_sz | deejoe: but measuring the input current will give you a clue as to the poser used, and a multimeter will measure current usually. |
| 19:39.20 | gnufan | deejoe: damn software found a mistake in the first test file I found.... |
| 19:39.21 | jammyflynn20 | any help available |
| 19:39.26 | tralala | heh, wrong alias |
| 19:39.27 | jammyflynn20 | ok im trying to install nvidia but ------- no precompiled interface was found ----- what do i do |
| 19:39.32 | tralala | !tell jammyflynn20 nvidia-one-liner |
| 19:39.33 | deejoe | robin_sz: right. Given that the voltage should be constant. |
| 19:39.40 | tralala | jammyflynn20: follow the dpkg's instructions |
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| 19:39.57 | jammyflynn20 | whts dpkgs |
| 19:40.13 | stew | dpkg: what are you |
| 19:40.13 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 19:40.23 | deejoe | robin_sz: we're talking ac current. A multimeter will do that? |
| 19:40.29 | tralala | !tell jammyflynn20 nvidia one liner |
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| 19:40.37 | robin_sz | deejoe: it depends ... you can have two boxes on the same voltage, drawing the same current, but quite different power consumption |
| 19:40.39 | tralala | dpkg: you bot |
| 19:40.43 | pipeline | deejoe: Of course. Not very well, but it does it. |
| 19:40.46 | robin_sz | deejoe: most do AC current, yes |
| 19:40.48 | jammyflynn20 | i dont understand ! oneliner |
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| 19:41.01 | foo | Hm, if I just partitioned a drive, do I need to reboot for the partition to become active? Hmm |
| 19:41.13 | tralala | wrong target... |
| 19:41.14 | tralala | strange |
| 19:41.19 | tralala | !nvidia one liner |
| 19:41.19 | dpkg | i guess nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 19:41.33 | tralala | jammyflynn20: ^^ read this |
| 19:41.46 | valdyn | foo: you need to reboot if you cannot unmount all partitions on that drive |
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| 19:42.09 | deejoe | pipeline, robin_sz: I'm thinking something like a KillAWatt is about cyzie's speed here. Not sure I'd want to recommend poking about with a multimeter to someone asking on irc. |
| 19:42.21 | deejoe | zzzzt |
| 19:42.23 | jammyflynn20 | wtf i dont undstand that jargon |
| 19:42.41 | valdyn | jammyflynn20: do you understant 'cut & paste' ? |
| 19:42.45 | valdyn | jammyflynn20: do you understand 'cut & paste' ? |
| 19:43.09 | robin_sz | deejoe: 1kw is only 4A at 250V ... most multimeters will measure up to 10A or so |
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| 19:43.37 | tralala | jammyflynn20: these are debian commands, type them the way you see them and you will be there |
| 19:43.47 | tuvwx | is d-i beta 2 known to cause any sound setup problems? |
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| 19:43.58 | tralala | jammyflynn20: if you don't know about contrib and non-free ask dpkg (/msg dpkg) |
| 19:44.03 | robin_sz | deejoe: your average PC box draws about 150 to 200w max |
| 19:44.08 | citral | hum, there is a factoid that says never type what you don't understand |
| 19:44.44 | foo | valdyn: Ah, right. Hmm, so I can make a new partition on this new drive and then mkfs.ext3 ... and not need a reboot, right? It's a backup drive in the system |
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| 19:44.54 | valdyn | foo: right |
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| 19:45.00 | foo | valdyn: thanks |
| 19:45.08 | kinneh | anybody running quake2 in debian from contrib ? |
| 19:45.16 | kinneh | and got ctf running ? |
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| 19:45.31 | valdyn | foo: fdisk will tell you if you need to reboot either way, if you need to reboot then it just wont show the newly created partitions when you restart fdisk |
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| 19:45.46 | robin_sz | foo: thats one of the nice things about Linux, liek Unix its a real OS, that means adding storage and re mapping your storage is not a rebooting thing, but just part of everyday running ... |
| 19:45.53 | foo | valdyn: Hmm, I used cfdisk. Then |
| 19:45.57 | hedi | greetings! im trying to install debian on my laptop but when i try to boot ont he disc, ive got the first command prompt, when i press enter ive got plenty of lines of scripts runign the installer then the screen goes black. when i boot with the same disc on the desktop, i get a language selection screen at the same moment instead of a black scren, any ideas please? |
| 19:46.00 | valdyn | foo: same deal with cfdisk |
| 19:46.02 | Bloated_UP | debian is the most up to date distribution ? |
| 19:46.04 | foo | robin_sz: heh, it's nicer if my system could do hotswapping |
| 19:46.06 | foo | valdyn: gocha. thanks |
| 19:46.21 | valdyn | foo: or /proc/partitions, that is just less detailed |
| 19:46.25 | robin_sz | foo: with SCSI its easy :) |
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| 19:46.44 | Blissex | Bloated_UP: no, it is the most stable probably. |
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| 19:46.51 | foo | robin_sz: ahh. nice. /me just got a Serial ATA drive, 200GB seagate for $40 |
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| 19:47.07 | robin_sz | ooh, not thought about SATA .. .yeah, that might be fine too |
| 19:47.12 | foo | hehe |
| 19:47.31 | robin_sz | that reminds me .. must investigate debain and cryptfs again |
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| 19:47.52 | miki | hey, what are names of most common debian text editors? |
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| 19:48.02 | miki | i know nano, but i need other name and i forgot it... |
| 19:48.02 | gnufan | hedi: you may need to add a "vga=" lines to the boot prompt. Try "linux vga=771" to start with.... |
| 19:48.08 | robin_sz | vi |
| 19:48.19 | hedi | gnufan thanks gonna try that |
| 19:48.46 | tralala | miki: pico |
| 19:48.53 | miki | kk |
| 19:49.02 | gnufan | hedi: must admit not an expert on these things. I think the LiveCDs usually add a "VGA=" line every time, not sure why the Debian installer doesn't? |
| 19:49.08 | Eulex | tralala, pico is no more. pico is just a symlink to nano. |
| 19:49.36 | Eulex | gnufan, because debian should be installable on system that hasn't got support for vesa vbe 2.0? |
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| 19:49.40 | tralala | Eulex: oh, well - I never use any of them |
| 19:49.40 | hedi | i need to redownload it, its i386 3.1 right? |
| 19:49.40 | Eulex | *systems |
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| 19:49.59 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 19:49.59 | chicagnu | que mas me quedo con este para el deebians erver |
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| 19:50.04 | Eulex | !es |
| 19:50.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:50.14 | TTT_Travis | I am trying to install kernel modules and this is what I get I know very little about this stuff so yeah: http://pastebin.com/660183 |
| 19:50.34 | miki | hmmm, im trying to edit my sources.list as admin but i cant open file |
| 19:50.41 | chascon | #debian, #debianppc, #debian-es, #ubuntu, #ubuntu-es, #lsd, #netbsd |
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| 19:50.59 | miki | nam :)O |
| 19:51.01 | miki | nvm |
| 19:51.04 | Eulex | chascon, eh? |
| 19:51.08 | simonQ | Evning guys, just did an upgrade on the base system of a sparc20 sarge system and I have now no network any ideas im guessing a module is not loaded but not sure which one |
| 19:51.10 | bliss1_ | cannot reboot but can shutdown -h now does this command save all work if shutdown -r now is not a option |
| 19:51.54 | Eulex | bliss1_, tried simply running 'reboot'? |
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| 19:52.52 | gnufan | Eulex: but presumably if it is good enough for the LiveCDs, it probably ought to be the default, as I've hit several systems where you needed to do this with Debian, but I've yet to hit one that the LiveCDs don't work on (at least till this point), so the onus is shifted onto the end user of fairly common systems to "know something extra". |
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| 19:53.27 | bliss1_ | Eulex: no not yet but shutdown -r now the box ends with rebooting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but the box stays on cannot switch off other than from mains |
| 19:53.59 | tonix | hi guys, if i run kde from root i'm able to use klaptopddaemon and access to acppi configuration kcontrol. Why i'm not able to do the same thing if i run kde as normal user? thanks |
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| 19:54.16 | simonQ | You dont have the permissions! |
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| 19:54.34 | bliss1_ | Eulex: can always give it a go |
| 19:54.37 | tralala | tonix: klaptopdaemon needs suid root |
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| 19:55.08 | yacoob | anyone knows whether/if unofficial new fglrx-driver is available for xorg7? |
| 19:55.28 | tonix | tralala: ok, but what is the script to start klaptopdaemon? |
| 19:55.34 | tralala | but you can run it as user and when you open its options you have the chance to type the root password to enable the priviledged controls |
| 19:55.51 | tonix | tralala: how? |
| 19:56.17 | tonix | tralala: i mean, how can configure kcontrol to ask me the root password? |
| 19:56.36 | bliss1_ | Eulex: thanks for help |
| 19:56.58 | Eulex | bliss1_, it worked? yw :) |
| 19:57.16 | tralala | tonix: from the control center you need to enable the battery monitor. Then right click on it and to to settings, prefferences or whatever it's called. |
| 19:57.20 | Eulex | gnufan, maybe. it should be deselectable, at least |
| 19:57.22 | bliss1_ | Eulex:i will let you know |
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| 19:57.25 | TTT_Travis | I am trying to install kernel modules and this is what I get I know very little about this stuff so yeah: http://pastebin.com/660183 |
| 19:59.50 | tonix | tralala: uhm.... i have the "Start Battery Monitor" button, i pressed it but nothing occurs... |
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| 20:01.38 | obscuresoul | is it normal mplayer breaks while it's playing a movie? |
| 20:01.39 | tonix | tralala: OK!!!! it works!!! thanks!!! |
| 20:01.47 | gnufan | TTT_Travis: If you are building a bespoke kernel for Debian -- strongly suggest using "kernel-package"... |
| 20:01.49 | tonix | tralala: ;-) |
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| 20:02.05 | gnufan | TTT_Travis: What modules are you building and why? |
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| 20:02.28 | dondelelcaro | TTT_Travis: that sure sounds like you don't have the whole kernel source installed when you're trying to build stuff. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 20:02.49 | TTT_Travis | I think I got it now |
| 20:02.53 | TTT_Travis | some things were linked wrong |
| 20:03.13 | TTT_Travis | and its some stuff for lirc |
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| 20:03.22 | LoPMX | hi |
| 20:03.33 | foo | I am trying to get usbmount or autofs to auto mount anything I plug in in /mnt ... but I installed them both and I don't see things showing up. Any ideas? |
| 20:04.03 | TTT_Travis | now I get this |
| 20:04.04 | TTT_Travis | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/crypto/aes-i586-asm.s', needed by `arch/i386/crypto/aes-i586-asm.o'. Stop. |
| 20:04.04 | TTT_Travis | make: *** [arch/i386/crypto] Error 2 |
| 20:04.04 | minerale | my system has 128mb ram... I only have 20 mb free ... anyone know any ways to cut down memory usage ? |
| 20:04.05 | dondelelcaro | TTT_Travis: install modules-assistant, then m-a a-i lirc |
| 20:04.07 | LoPMX | i have a small problem here, my apache runs few apps with fcgid (ruby on rails apps), but one of them does not work, in apache error log i can only see that there was premature end of script, how can i see what went wrong? |
| 20:04.10 | dondelelcaro | TTT_Travis: and don't paste here. |
| 20:04.16 | TTT_Travis | k |
| 20:04.27 | dondelelcaro | s/modules/module/ |
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| 20:04.54 | Silent_al | hello... i'm trying to remove the ipv6 module , but rmmod and modconf saying its in use,, how can i remove it |
| 20:05.22 | dondelelcaro | Silent_al: it's in use because you've got an interface up that is using ipv6. |
| 20:05.39 | tralala | Silent_al: blacklist it and reboot |
| 20:05.43 | dondelelcaro | Silent_al: there's really no reason to bother removing it, though. |
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| 20:06.33 | TTT_Travis | how do I install modules-assistant, its not in the apt repos |
| 20:06.50 | tralala | it's module-assistant |
| 20:06.54 | roxy_ | I got a file: foo.iso.bz2 inside an empty directory. I did tar xjf foo.iso.bz2. When the command finishes, without error, the only file inside the directory is foo.iso.bz2. I was expecting to have also foo.iso . :( |
| 20:06.55 | Eulex | TTT_Travis, it is, though its name is module-assistant |
| 20:07.16 | Eulex | roxy_, that's not a tar file |
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| 20:07.28 | Silent_al | tralala, what do u mean by " blacklist it"? |
| 20:07.35 | TTT_Travis | ok |
| 20:07.35 | roxy_ | Eulex: doh, thanks. |
| 20:07.38 | TTT_Travis | its already installed |
| 20:07.47 | Eulex | roxy_, just bunzip2 foo.iso.bz2 |
| 20:07.59 | tralala | Silent_al: man hotplug |
| 20:08.01 | TTT_Travis | it says I have an unconfigured kernel source |
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| 20:08.12 | Silent_al | tralala, got it :) thanx |
| 20:08.23 | TTT_Travis | oh |
| 20:08.24 | TTT_Travis | I see |
| 20:08.48 | Silent_al | No manual entry for hotplug.. |
| 20:09.00 | roxy_ | Eulex: thanks, I am just so used to tar xjf and tar xzf I didn't even see it wasn't a tar :/ |
| 20:09.12 | Eulex | roxy_, hehe :) yw :) |
| 20:09.18 | TTT_Travis | hmmm |
| 20:09.21 | TTT_Travis | something is messed up |
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| 20:09.30 | TTT_Travis | I am trying to make the modules |
| 20:09.55 | MrNaz | anyone know anything about the NTP package? how do i run an update for starters |
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| 20:10.05 | dondelelcaro | !tell MrNaz -about set the time |
| 20:10.27 | dondelelcaro | MrNaz: ntp doesn't do updates, ntpdate sets it right the first time that it runs, and then ntp keeps it in sync. |
| 20:11.05 | wakejagr | i can make-kpkg a kernel, but if i make-kpkg clean and then make-kpkg another kernel, the system locks up. any ideas about what might be going on? |
| 20:11.37 | LoPMX | i have a small problem here, my apache runs few apps with fcgid (ruby on rails apps), but one of them does not work, in apache error log i can only see that there was premature end of script, how can i see what went wrong? |
| 20:11.41 | roxy_ | TTT_Travis: why don't you get the kernel image ? |
| 20:12.19 | Eulex | wakejagr, overheating? |
| 20:12.25 | gnufan | TTT_Travis: What modules are you trying to make? aes-i586 is in the 2.6.8 stock kernel. |
| 20:12.37 | TTT_Travis | I just typed make modules |
| 20:12.38 | TTT_Travis | http://pastebin.com/660231 |
| 20:12.43 | TTT_Travis | thats what I get |
| 20:12.48 | TTT_Travis | I need that command to make sucessfully |
| 20:12.54 | MrNaz | dondelelcaro so do i need to apt-get ntp AND ntpdate? |
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| 20:13.00 | MTecknology | http://pastebin.com/660227 - what should should i change to underclock my puter, and how do i know what it is now? |
| 20:13.09 | wakejagr | Eulex: i haven't experienced any other system freezes - it runs for days or weeks under sometimes heavy use with no problems |
| 20:13.14 | tralala | TTT_Travis: why do you want to compile a kernel? |
| 20:13.21 | TTT_Travis | I need to install some modules |
| 20:13.25 | Eulex | wakejagr, hmm, ok, then that's not it |
| 20:13.27 | TTT_Travis | I am following a tutorial |
| 20:13.31 | TTT_Travis | and thats what it says todo |
| 20:13.33 | amee2k | how can i send windows "net send" instant messages? |
| 20:13.35 | TTT_Travis | I just need to make those modules |
| 20:14.01 | Eulex | MTecknology, rovclock only clocks radeon cards |
| 20:14.01 | LoPMX | amee2k, try wall? |
| 20:14.03 | tralala | TTT_Travis: are you following a Debian tutorial on a Debian system? |
| 20:14.11 | gnufan | TTT_Travis: which modules - which tutorial -- very rare people need to make modules these days unless they have weird hardware or are off the beaten track? |
| 20:14.21 | tralala | Debian deals with kernel modules using module-assistant |
| 20:14.32 | TTT_Travis | this tutorial |
| 20:14.32 | TTT_Travis | http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/18/33/ |
| 20:14.35 | TTT_Travis | I am trying to setup lirc |
| 20:14.44 | MTecknology | Eulex, how do i check what i have/what works from mine |
| 20:14.44 | TTT_Travis | I setup my build envoirment |
| 20:14.46 | TTT_Travis | like it said |
| 20:15.00 | stew | !m-a TTT_Travis lirc-modules |
| 20:15.00 | dpkg | TTT_Travis: to compile and install lirc-modules for your running kernel: apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i lirc-modules && modprobe lirc-modules ; if this works echo lirc-modules >> /etc/modules ; also ask me about <m-a> |
| 20:15.08 | wakejagr | Eulex: the strange thing is that it seems to compile ok after a reboot, but a second make-kpkg will lock me up |
| 20:15.13 | tralala | TTT_Travis: this is not how you install lirc in Debian |
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| 20:15.22 | Eulex | MTecknology, what you have? lspci to see what card you have, ./rovclock -i to see what it's currently running at |
| 20:15.25 | TTT_Travis | k |
| 20:15.39 | TTT_Travis | well I have ubuntu actually |
| 20:15.42 | Eulex | wakejagr, strange indeed |
| 20:15.46 | pharm | !ubuntu |
| 20:15.46 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 20:15.47 | jennifer2 | Please help |
| 20:15.50 | jennifer2 | I need help |
| 20:15.53 | foo | err, I have @reboot with a script to be ran but it apparently isn't running. Any ideas? Do I need to enable something or something? |
| 20:15.58 | foo | jennifer2: uh, just aks. |
| 20:16.15 | jennifer2 | I cant load my gnome or kde |
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| 20:16.29 | Eulex | foo, what did you make to try to make it run at boot? |
| 20:16.37 | Eulex | s/make/do/ |
| 20:16.39 | MTecknology | Eulex, so what am I running? - http://pastebin.com/660236 |
| 20:16.43 | foo | Eulex: I put @reboot in crontab |
| 20:16.44 | foo | hmm |
| 20:16.44 | amee2k | LoPMX: not really. i mean these little instant messages that pop up on windows screen and that are sent in windows with "net send" command |
| 20:16.47 | stoned | hey, umm, this is gonna sound retarded, but this is the first time I am doing my taxes here in usa, and there are a few questions I have no idea about, just wondering if someone could ansewr a question for me. This is entirely off topic but I have no one else, or if there is another channel I can go to, thats fine. I worked a few jobs, now the question they ask is did I recieve any wages from a w2 form? what is that? |
| 20:16.48 | tralala | jennifer2: paste your error message like that: |
| 20:16.49 | tralala | !paste |
| 20:16.49 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 20:16.50 | jennifer2 | The error is maybe gnome-sessions |
| 20:17.11 | Eulex | foo, ah, no idea, never messed with crontab. |
| 20:17.14 | dondelelcaro | stoned: it's a form that your employer has to give you by law if they paid you as an employee. |
| 20:17.15 | amee2k | i know there's a program for linux to send these messages but i can't find it |
| 20:17.30 | foo | Eulex: thanks anyways, hmm |
| 20:17.35 | dondelelcaro | stoned: normal income is reported on either a w2 or a 1099. |
| 20:17.36 | stoned | dondelelcaro, oh ok those things, I filled those out yeah. hey thanks man I appreciate it |
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| 20:17.50 | jennifer2 | bye |
| 20:17.50 | dondelelcaro | stoned: no, you didn't fill it out; it would have been given to you. You filled out a W4. |
| 20:17.59 | Eulex | MTecknology, I think it quite clearly says that you've got a radeon. read the last line. |
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| 20:18.05 | tralala | amee2k: samba does this |
| 20:18.15 | stoned | dondelelcaro, ahh, well I filled out something with a w in it. w2 is that they sent me in feb, right? |
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| 20:18.20 | dondelelcaro | stoned: yes. |
| 20:18.23 | stoned | ahh |
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| 20:18.28 | stoned | ok, thanks |
| 20:18.30 | miki | m |
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| 20:18.50 | MTecknology | Eulex, sorry 2yrs and i'm still noob. Which value do i change? -c, -m, -x |
| 20:18.51 | dondelelcaro | stoned: it should have 3 separate bits, and have your employers EIN, your SSN, and some other stuff on it, like how much you were paid, how much they withheld, etc. |
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| 20:18.54 | gnufan | amee2k: smbclient is the program that does it |
| 20:18.57 | Eulex | MTecknology, ah, you've got an igp 320m: http://rzr.online.fr/docs/comp/gfxcard.htm |
| 20:19.17 | Eulex | MTecknology, rovclock might not work at all. first check if it can read the values with -i |
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| 20:19.43 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I have all the papers here. They sent me things with perferated lines through it, its 4 of the same thing, on every tax thing I got. I added them up, and I am getting back close to a 1000$ aint that something |
| 20:19.46 | wakejagr | foo: i think crontab wants minute hour dayofmonth month dayofweek command. so, 0 0 * * * reboot would reboot your machine at midnight every night |
| 20:20.03 | Eulex | MTecknology, you probably don't need to change xtal. just set -m and -c to something lower, and pray that things still work. |
| 20:20.08 | dondelelcaro | stoned: yeah, that's about normal if you don't make very much and are single |
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| 20:20.32 | MTecknology | Eulex, if they don't work, how do i reset? |
| 20:20.41 | Eulex | MTecknology, by rebooting |
| 20:20.50 | MTecknology | k, long as it's safe |
| 20:20.56 | Eulex | it should be |
| 20:21.03 | ne0futur | is there a text telling the debian position concerning the GPL/cc war ? |
| 20:21.08 | Eulex | can't promise anything, though |
| 20:21.09 | miki | hey, im trying to do this: http://www.backports.org/instructions.html but i cant find 'preferences' file, should i create new one? |
| 20:21.20 | ne0futur | can creative commons be included in debian ? and nc-by-sa too ? |
| 20:21.20 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I have worked part time for 14$/hr so thats not much. but still I am a student and another 1000$ is fantastic |
| 20:21.29 | dondelelcaro | ne0futur: there isn't a war; the issues have been resolved, and are just waiting on the next version of the CC. |
| 20:21.29 | Eulex | ne0futur, http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html |
| 20:21.35 | dondelelcaro | stoned: ah, right. |
| 20:21.41 | ne0futur | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 20:22.12 | dondelelcaro | ne0futur: NC-BY-SA is fundamentally incompatible with the DFSG, so you won't be able to use them in Debian, though. |
| 20:22.20 | dondelelcaro | but BY-SA will work. |
| 20:22.23 | foo | wakejagr: hmm, nah, I'm talking about @reboot ... runs scripts at startup. |
| 20:22.30 | amee2k | gnufan: installed smbclient but it installs a big bunch of programs. which one is the one i want? |
| 20:22.41 | gnufan | amee2k: smbclient |
| 20:22.46 | wakejagr | foo: ah |
| 20:22.52 | MTecknology | Eulex, is it actually working? http://pastebin.com/660261 |
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| 20:23.07 | foo | I am trying to get usbmount or autofs to auto mount anything I plug (USB) in in /mnt ... but I installed them both and I don't see things showing up. Any ideas? |
| 20:23.20 | gnufan | amee2k: I just uninstalled smbclient -- ask me no more Microsoft related question ;) |
| 20:23.27 | Eulex | MTecknology, looks ok to me |
| 20:23.30 | tonix | hi folks, is there a way to import thunderbird maildir into kmail format? thanks |
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| 20:24.14 | gnufan | tonix: Probably safest just to stick the email through an IMAP server. I think the formats have a couple of subtle differences. |
| 20:24.15 | MTecknology | Eulex, so how do I choose what to set -m and -c |
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| 20:25.14 | Eulex | dondelelcaro, not according to http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html -- did they change their minds? |
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| 20:25.58 | Eulex | MTecknology, you guess at what will work. Me, I can underclock -m and -c to 100 mhz both without experiencing problems |
| 20:25.58 | tonix | gnufan: thanks |
| 20:25.59 | dondelelcaro | Eulex: the critical point in my reply was "the next version of the CC" |
| 20:26.03 | hedi | (gnufan): hahhaha dude, i asked on 3 different forums, noone could help me out with that black screen... using linux vga 771 works :p |
| 20:26.06 | Eulex | dondelelcaro, ah |
| 20:26.32 | dondelelcaro | Eulex: but yeah, those are the issues with 2.0, and why they can't yet be used in Debian. |
| 20:26.37 | Silent_al | Eulex,maybe u could help me please... this dude told me to blacklist ipv6 using hotplug..but when im trying to install hotplug, the kernel,gnome, and other stuff are about to be removed.. |
| 20:27.01 | Eulex | Silent_al, umh, if you haven't got hotplug in the first place, you shouldn't install it |
| 20:27.15 | Eulex | Silent_al, are you on stable, testing or unstable? |
| 20:27.20 | Silent_al | testing |
| 20:27.22 | gnufan | hedi: great -- thanks for letting me know -- now blog it so those following you will find it. |
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| 20:27.33 | Eulex | Silent_al, thus you've got udev and no hotplug. that's normal. |
| 20:27.35 | obscuresoul | how can i watch movies on browser? |
| 20:27.35 | tonix | is there a debian package for mozilla sunbird on testing? |
| 20:27.37 | Eulex | !blacklist |
| 20:27.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 20:27.43 | Eulex | Silent_al, ^^ |
| 20:27.45 | _Roey | hi! why do I get this after issuing startx? http://rafb.net/paste/results/GVZLvV56.html |
| 20:27.51 | MTecknology | Eulex, is it just incmpatible http://pastebin.com/660268 |
| 20:27.54 | streuner | !tell tonix about search |
| 20:27.55 | Silent_al | Eulex, thank u m8! bless u :) |
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| 20:28.02 | Eulex | obscuresoul, get the mplayer firefox plugin from marillat |
| 20:28.05 | Eulex | !marillat |
| 20:28.05 | dpkg | i guess marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 20:28.08 | Eulex | Silent_al, yw :) |
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| 20:28.55 | pooper | how can i make my external usb drive show up? |
| 20:29.19 | apikoros | hey.. i can set my console to 1024x768-60 using fbset, but i can't seem to discover the proper vga= kernel parameter.. what would be the corresponding value? |
| 20:29.24 | apikoros | pooper: you have to mount it, first. |
| 20:29.25 | Eulex | MTecknology, hmm, doesn't seem ok, oh, and your last paste also had that error message. didn't see it. but as I said, an igp 320m is ancient and probably not supported by rovclock. |
| 20:29.41 | pooper | apikoros: what would be the syntax? |
| 20:29.55 | MTecknology | Eulex, so... do you know of anything that would work? |
| 20:29.59 | gnufan | tonix: not that I know -- I think "mozilla-calendar" package is from the same source code base -- bit like Gecko being common to Firefox and Epiphany |
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| 20:30.31 | apikoros | pooper: it varies, but first create a directory called /mnt/usbdrive by typing "mkdir /mnt/usbdrive" as root |
| 20:30.37 | Eulex | MTecknology, sorry, no. I doubt that even fglrx can underclock it. |
| 20:30.39 | tonix | gnufan: thanks |
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| 20:30.51 | Eulex | MTecknology, I don't even think fglrx supports it at all |
| 20:30.55 | apikoros | pooper: what filesystem type is your HD? windows-formatted i imagine? |
| 20:31.02 | miki | hey, im trying to install mutt but im getting strage information |
| 20:31.20 | Eulex | apikoros, http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-7.0/docs/Linux-mini-HOWTO/Vesafb |
| 20:31.22 | miki | mutt is already in newest version, 297 packes aint updated tho |
| 20:31.25 | pooper | apikoros: fat32 prolly i never messed with it out of the box |
| 20:31.48 | gnufan | tonix: When I wondered about calendaring apps -- I tried Mozilla-Calendar, and it does the export via WebDav or FTP, and iCal I believe... seemed competent. but I still use a paper diary so I'm probably not one to educate you further on calendars |
| 20:31.51 | apikoros | pooper: try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive |
| 20:31.55 | Eulex | apikoros, but you could always check what modes your vesa vbe interface supports by doing hwinfo --framebuffer |
| 20:31.55 | miki | W: none (or zero) priority |
| 20:31.56 | obscuresoul | Eulex: i've already installed mplayer-nogui from marrilat and it breaks while playing a movie. i've already installed mozilla-mplayer too...and it doesn't work :\ |
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| 20:32.18 | apikoros | thanks Eulex, checking.. |
| 20:32.21 | hm | hi, after installing a new kernel version and rebuilding my modules i always get the message: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-686/misc/ndiswrapper.ko': -1 Invalid parameters when i try to insert them. does anyone have an idea what might be wrong? kernel version is 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 20:32.24 | Eulex | obscuresoul, sorry, then I dunno. mozilla-mplayer is the only one out there, afaik. |
| 20:32.42 | obscuresoul | Eulex: it works with you? |
| 20:33.10 | pooper | apikoros: hrm that wasnt the drive heh |
| 20:33.29 | Eulex | obscuresoul, I tried it once, but got pissed off when it played an mp3 inside the browser instead of downloading it, so I got rid of it pretty quickly |
| 20:33.39 | Reilithion | I have a problem. When I try to upgrade xorg beyond 6.8.2-mea1 , the xserver fails to start upon next reboot. It claims that it's likely a configuration problem, but I used the previous configuration file, and tried several variants, none of which solve the problem. How would I go about diagnosing and fixing this problem? |
| 20:33.45 | apikoros | pooper: lsusb might tell you |
| 20:33.50 | apikoros | pooper: i forget, it's been a while |
| 20:33.57 | obscuresoul | Eulex: eheh tks anyway :) |
| 20:34.29 | pooper | apikoros: shows bus 001 and device 001 |
| 20:34.30 | apikoros | Eulex: so any mode reported by hwinfo i can pass verbatim to the kernel via vga=? |
| 20:34.32 | deejoe | amee2k: man smbclient. You want the -M switch, I think. |
| 20:34.37 | Eulex | apikoros, I think so |
| 20:34.56 | apikoros | Eulex: thanks |
| 20:34.58 | Eulex | Reilithion, 6.8.2-mea1 is an unofficial build of xorg. you should check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors |
| 20:35.03 | apikoros | pooper: are you sure it's not /dev/sda1? |
| 20:35.03 | Eulex | apikoros, yw :) |
| 20:35.15 | pooper | apikoros: somthing is goofy... |
| 20:35.26 | pooper | its showing a bunch of partitions for that drive |
| 20:35.38 | Eulex | Reilithion, did you upgrade to 6.9 or 7.0? |
| 20:36.01 | apikoros | pooper: do you have other SCSI drives? |
| 20:36.10 | pooper | nno |
| 20:36.11 | Reilithion | Eulex, lemme check |
| 20:36.27 | apikoros | i gotta reboot, bbiab |
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| 20:38.25 | hm | every self compiled module i try to insert says something about wrong parameters, even they didnt have any parameters for my old kernel version.!? |
| 20:38.31 | Reilithion | Eulex, 6.9 . There was another version in there somewhere that also had this problem, but it's no longer listed in Debian testing section. The only way I got my computer back up and running X was to include another repository that permanently had 6.8.2 in my apt sources list |
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| 20:38.58 | Eulex | Reilithion, heh, ok |
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| 20:39.27 | deejoe | oh, bummer. woody didn't have debconf-set-selections |
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| 20:40.04 | Eulex | deejoe, dpkg --set-selections then? |
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| 20:40.24 | deejoe | Eulex: thanks, but no. I want to set up the package, not just set it to be installed. |
| 20:40.40 | deejoe | there's probably another way to do it, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. |
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| 20:41.55 | RobHu | I'm using the amd 64 testing netinst installed with a Tyan K8SRE but during the install it doesnt detect the network controllers (BCM5704) - I tried selecting tg3 but that didn't work. Any ideas? |
| 20:42.13 | Eulex | deejoe, ah, sorry, assumed they were the same things. they were not. |
| 20:42.40 | Eulex | RobHu, what kernel is that installer using? |
| 20:42.45 | deejoe | Eulex: np |
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| 20:43.02 | RobHu | I did 'expert' at the prompt. I think I tried expert26 but that didn't work - I think it said it didnt exist. |
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| 20:43.29 | makaveli | YER |
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| 20:43.44 | sn00p | WHat is the X windows system package name in apt-get? |
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| 20:43.54 | makaveli | I AM HAVING TROUBLE INSTALING FROSTWIRE |
| 20:43.58 | Eulex | RobHu, because for newer kernels you need to supply the firmware for the tg3 driver, as it's not included in the kernel anymore. |
| 20:44.00 | mutante | sn00p: x-window-system |
| 20:44.04 | Eulex | makaveli, REALLY?????++ |
| 20:44.10 | maxb | makaveli: you are also having problems with your capslock key |
| 20:44.17 | RobHu | Eulex: I see. Could you point me to somewhere where I can RTFM about that please? |
| 20:44.18 | makaveli | FUNNY |
| 20:44.27 | makaveli | i just got ubuntu |
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| 20:44.41 | makaveli | and this stuff is really complicating |
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| 20:44.52 | Reilithion | also, when the x server quits, it leaves the screen in a funky video mode which is hard to read. is there a command I can use to reset the video mode to something more readable? |
| 20:44.56 | maxb | makaveli: then perhaps #ubuntu would suit your needs better? |
| 20:45.04 | stew | Eulex: it is back in the kernel these days afaik |
| 20:45.06 | makaveli | they suck |
| 20:45.06 | _Roey | hi! why do I get this after issuing startx? http://rafb.net/paste/results/GVZLvV56.html |
| 20:45.17 | makaveli | ya know |
| 20:45.18 | makaveli | ? |
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| 20:45.34 | sn00p_ | WHat is the name of the x windows system in the apt-get package? |
| 20:45.48 | stew | sn00p_: x-window-system |
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| 20:45.54 | sn00p_ | i cant find it |
| 20:45.58 | makaveli | y linux is so complicating |
| 20:46.00 | makaveli | damn |
| 20:46.08 | _Roey | makaveli: it is for sm4rt f0lks |
| 20:46.11 | _Roey | *f0lkz |
| 20:46.11 | stew | !info x-window-system sarge |
| 20:46.12 | makaveli | i know |
| 20:46.16 | _Roey | x-window-system-core?? |
| 20:46.20 | Eulex | stew, it is? |
| 20:46.23 | _Roey | I can't run X! help! :) |
| 20:46.24 | makaveli | that y window it making more money |
| 20:46.28 | makaveli | duhhh |
| 20:46.30 | Eulex | RobHu, then I must apologize |
| 20:46.40 | RobHu | Eulex: ? |
| 20:46.45 | stew | RobHu: which kernel version? |
| 20:46.48 | odla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.48 | dpkg | odla: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my lindows werkz ????? |
| 20:46.55 | stew | Eulex: i think it went back in around 2.6.11 or something |
| 20:47.05 | RobHu | I'm not sure ... I'll go check - it was the daily netinst for testing amd64 |
| 20:47.09 | Eulex | RobHu, <stew> Eulex: it is back in the kernel these days afaik |
| 20:47.23 | stew | RobHu: that's 2.6.15 probably |
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| 20:47.28 | makaveli | roey_ they need to make linux more easier then it would be the best pc software |
| 20:47.37 | RobHu | I'll go and tinker with it for a few minutes |
| 20:47.47 | cahoot | makaveli: they - who? |
| 20:47.51 | makaveli | i need help with frost wire |
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| 20:48.01 | makaveli | somebody going to help me |
| 20:48.03 | Eulex | makaveli, go read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm, kthx |
| 20:48.10 | makaveli | cool |
| 20:48.11 | makaveli | noo |
| 20:48.26 | makaveli | linux is cool |
| 20:48.29 | makaveli | but damn |
| 20:48.38 | JoshH | ya, it takes a lot of reading |
| 20:48.38 | makaveli | terminal shit |
| 20:48.46 | makaveli | excuse |
| 20:48.47 | makaveli | me |
| 20:48.53 | zms | why does one need to relate the dvd writer to a raw device? |
| 20:49.05 | makaveli | who can help me with my problem? |
| 20:49.08 | yanmorin | the reading make kids smarter ;p |
| 20:49.09 | stew | makaveli: #ubuntu |
| 20:49.12 | valdyn | zms: uh? |
| 20:49.13 | makaveli | yess |
| 20:49.13 | zms | just for performance? |
| 20:49.14 | Reilithion | dpkg, tell makaveli about enter |
| 20:49.16 | Eulex | !tell makaveli about enter |
| 20:49.24 | valdyn | zms: what do you mean? |
| 20:50.14 | Eulex | defeated :) |
| 20:50.14 | JoshH | !enter |
| 20:50.14 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
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| 20:50.15 | makaveli | u funny |
| 20:50.15 | testi | hi |
| 20:50.15 | makaveli | geeks |
| 20:50.15 | Eulex | JoshH, no need to spam in the channel |
| 20:50.15 | Reilithion | ^_^ |
| 20:50.16 | makaveli | that y window is the best shit out right now |
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| 20:50.16 | Eulex | !ops makaveli is a troll |
| 20:50.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: makaveli is a troll |
| 20:50.24 | JoshH | makaveli: shut the fuck up please |
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| 20:50.29 | makaveli | lmao |
| 20:50.31 | makaveli | nooo |
| 20:50.32 | dpy2 | hi guys |
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| 20:50.35 | LordNazgul | how can i get wpa supplicant to start at boot. here is my /etc/netwrok/interface file http://pastebin.com/660297 i cant see the problem. but it doesnt load wpasupplicant |
| 20:50.39 | Eulex | JoshH, please don't feed the trolls |
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| 20:50.57 | dpy2 | does anyone know how to correct these problems: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
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| 20:51.00 | mentor | hmm |
| 20:51.02 | shogunx | Eulex we should just kick the trolls. |
| 20:51.04 | dpy2 | hdb: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=300023874, high=17, low=14811202, sector=300023871 |
| 20:51.09 | Eulex | shogunx, indeed |
| 20:51.15 | testi | since my update to xorg 7.0, i can't: ssh -X hostname and run remote X-Applications. The DISPLAY var is not set. X11Forwarding is on the remote host is enabled of course |
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| 20:51.19 | tarzeau | dpy2: replace hard disk |
| 20:51.24 | tarzeau | dpy2: or run harddisk check on it |
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| 20:51.29 | dpy2 | tarzeau: it's brand new, one day old |
| 20:51.30 | stew | dpy2: either your cable or your hard drive needs to be replaced, probably the drive |
| 20:51.31 | valdyn | dpy2: if that is a harddisk, buy a new one, if its a cdrom, replace the disk |
| 20:51.32 | tarzeau | dpy2: what's the manufacturer of it? |
| 20:51.39 | tarzeau | dpy2: even brand new items can be broken |
| 20:51.44 | tarzeau | dpy2: have you ever played nethack? |
| 20:51.44 | mentor | makaveli: Do you have a valid Debian based question? |
| 20:51.49 | dpy2 | tarzeau: it's samsung |
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| 20:52.01 | dpy2 | tarzeau: no, I stay away from nethack |
| 20:52.21 | JoshH | dpy2: that's good |
| 20:52.25 | Eulex | mentor, he's banned |
| 20:52.35 | JoshH | who needs nethack when WoW is out |
| 20:52.36 | Reilithion | Pardon me for repeating myself, but is there a simple way to reset video modes from the terminal? when xorg crashes, it leaves my screen very unreadable. |
| 20:52.36 | valdyn | dpy2: if you're lucky its a driver bug or a cabling issue though |
| 20:52.37 | zms | valdyn: pl. see #flood |
| 20:52.38 | LoRez | mentor: yeah, he can't talk. |
| 20:52.40 | tarzeau | JoshH: pff |
| 20:52.40 | mentor | feh |
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| 20:53.04 | valdyn | zms: why are you doing these silly symlinks? |
| 20:53.08 | RobHu | It's running 2.6.15-1-amd64-generic... It insmods the tg3 and I can see it in lsmod but it just says no network card detected :( |
| 20:53.17 | dpy2 | valdyn: I have used this cable before on another 120GB which really died |
| 20:53.21 | RobHu | I'll download the stable installer then do a dist-upgrade |
| 20:53.23 | mentor | well, he's gone anyway |
| 20:53.34 | odla | i can't get the marillat key working with the factoid that dpkg gives me...any ideas what command i should run? |
| 20:53.36 | stew | RobHu: Eulex: yeah i just checked the firmware blob is in fact in the debian kernels after 2.6.12 |
| 20:53.40 | dpy2 | valdyn: it's a regular 40 pin cable, but the mainboard only supports up to udma2 |
| 20:53.48 | Eulex | RobHu, heh, ok. that's good. |
| 20:53.48 | zms | valdyn: I am not. I am considering purchasing a DVD writer.. so was investigating what would be required to make it work. |
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| 20:53.53 | valdyn | dpy2: that wouldnt be an issue |
| 20:53.56 | RobHu | stew: Any ideas why its not working then? :) |
| 20:54.00 | valdyn | zms: you plug it in, that is all |
| 20:54.15 | RobHu | Hmm |
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| 20:54.26 | zms | valdyn: udev should take care of the devices. right? |
| 20:54.29 | RobHu | Stable doesnt have amd64... should I install i386? Can I go to amd64 from there safely? |
| 20:54.32 | stew | RobHu: does anything show up in dmesg when you modprobe tg3? |
| 20:54.38 | dpy2 | valdyn, tarzeau: the point is, the error occurs the second I mount the harddisk |
| 20:54.51 | valdyn | zms: yea, and even if it does not you could relate to the drive via /dev/hdc or somesuch, udev would create /dev/dvd |
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| 20:55.03 | dpy2 | and also sector 300023871, but the harddisk is only 300GB |
| 20:55.24 | testi | does the X11 protocol change between 6.9 and 7.0? so i can't start remote x-applications if xorg version differs? |
| 20:55.35 | valdyn | dpy2: run badblocks on the device, not the partition, if that doesnt show errors your drive is ok |
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| 20:56.04 | ojai | anyone know of a good X newsreader? |
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| 20:56.12 | valdyn | testi: no, Xorg7 is identical to Xorg6.9 except for packageing system |
| 20:56.26 | RobHu | SteI dont think so |
| 20:56.32 | RobHu | stew: I dont think so |
| 20:56.34 | valdyn | testi: and beside that the X protocol didnt change for a _much_ longer time |
| 20:56.40 | maxb | RobHu: There is an unofficial stable amd64 |
| 20:56.44 | testi | i thought that |
| 20:57.02 | RobHu | maxb: Is there an installer for that? where can I get that from? |
| 20:57.06 | dpy2 | valdyn: badblocks is a command ? |
| 20:57.12 | valdyn | dpy2: yes |
| 20:57.12 | tarzeau | yes |
| 20:57.17 | f_mohr_pooky | is there any converter tool for debian that handles cgm v4 ? |
| 20:57.27 | tarzeau | f_mohr_pooky: graphics file? |
| 20:57.30 | RobHu | Is it best for me to put the unnofficial stable amd64 on or i386 stable and upgrade to amd64 (if thats possible) ? |
| 20:57.46 | dpy2 | valdyn: running badblocks /dev/hdb |
| 20:57.46 | maxb | RobHu: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ (and #debian-amd64 for amd64-specific issues) |
| 20:57.52 | f_mohr_pooky | "computer graphics metafile" |
| 20:57.53 | tarzeau | f_mohr_pooky: maybe transfig ? |
| 20:58.02 | roxy_ | I didn't get everything about the stable/testing/unstable story when I started using debian. Now I got it and only got testing reference in my source.list. But I did some update/upgrade with mixed stuff in my source.list before. Now I want to install k3b to burn a iso cd. I did "aptitude install k3b" and got the following error: http://pastebin.com/660314. I need to burn a cd, I got the iso, what should I do ? |
| 20:58.06 | f_mohr_pooky | only fig2cgm |
| 20:58.29 | Blissex | roxy_: use http://WWW.Backports.org/ |
| 20:58.30 | maxb | RobHu: 'upgrade to amd64' ? There *is* no official stable amd64. |
| 20:58.30 | valdyn | roxy_: run cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc file.iso |
| 20:58.50 | valdyn | maxb: the 'inofficial' amd64 sarge is just fine |
| 20:59.06 | RobHu | maxb: Well I want to upgrade to testing amd64. Can I do that from the stable i386? |
| 20:59.08 | stew | RobHu: i think that for the stable kernel will require firmware for your tg3 tough |
| 20:59.14 | valdyn | maxb: its more technical reasons why its inofficial than something that should concern users imo |
| 20:59.17 | RobHu | bah |
| 20:59.25 | RobHu | What can I do? :( I just want to install debian |
| 20:59.26 | zms | dpy2: can you summarize your issue with errors on http://pastebin.com please? |
| 20:59.31 | RobHu | and have my network cards work! |
| 20:59.45 | dpy2 | zms: sure, one sec |
| 20:59.50 | stew | RobHu: when you load the tg3 driver now, do you get errors? |
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| 20:59.59 | RobHu | stew: Not that I sw |
| 21:00.08 | Blissex | RobHu: no, thats a complete reinstall. You can't ''upgrade'' from one architecture to another. |
| 21:00.11 | RobHu | Stew: I did dmesg and I didnt see anything |
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| 21:00.17 | stew | RobHu: but "ifconfig -a" doesn't show your device? |
| 21:00.25 | RobHu | stew: I'll go check |
| 21:00.26 | maxb | RobHu: stable->testing ought to always be fine. I don't know if there is a direct amd64 testing installer |
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| 21:01.11 | stew | maxb: he's talking about moving from i386 stable to amd64 testing, which would require a chroot install |
| 21:01.27 | stew | (and wouldn't work with his network card anyway) |
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| 21:02.04 | dpy2 | zms: http://rafb.net/paste/results/I7auyi63.html I checked syslog... I put the harddisk in yesterday... no problems, they also are not in syslog... this paste is the first time it occurred (which is tonight) |
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| 21:02.16 | dpy2 | zms: now it occurs as soon as I mount the partition |
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| 21:02.44 | bxjan | hello |
| 21:02.55 | dpy2 | zms: maybe an important note: the motherboard's BIOS reports the drive a 6.8 GB (it's 300GB), but this wasn't an issue yesterday |
| 21:03.34 | valdyn | dpy2: maybe you need to swith to or fro LBA mode in your bios |
| 21:03.38 | dpy2 | badblocks hasn't reported any badblocks yet |
| 21:03.43 | Reilithion | o_o I'm getting a signal 11 when trying to start up Xorg |
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| 21:03.59 | stew | RobHu: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 21:04.05 | dpy2 | valdyn: it's a crappy compaq BIOS.. it's automagically, or nothing, with this BIOS |
| 21:04.08 | zms | dpy2: I was about to say what valdyn just said.. confirm your LBA settings in BIOS. |
| 21:04.19 | valdyn | dpy2: then just repartition it |
| 21:04.32 | dpy2 | but I just partitioned it yesterday |
| 21:04.56 | zms | dpy2: was it working correctly yesterday? size and all? |
| 21:05.00 | dpy2 | yes |
| 21:05.03 | dpy2 | worked fine |
| 21:05.07 | cahoot | dpy2: what tool? |
| 21:05.13 | dpy2 | ofcourse I never wrote more that 12 GB on it |
| 21:05.15 | zms | dpy2: define "worked fine" |
| 21:05.18 | dpy2 | today I wrote another 10GB |
| 21:05.34 | roxy_ | valdyn: thanks, worked like magic. I've seen a freeBSD debian, do you know if there'll be a plan9 debian ? |
| 21:05.35 | dpy2 | zms: I could cfdisk the drive fine, then mount it, then write data to it |
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| 21:05.49 | dpy2 | nothing reported errors, and syslog is clean |
| 21:05.55 | dpy2 | for yesterday |
| 21:05.56 | zms | dpy2: no mkfs? |
| 21:06.09 | dpy2 | zms: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 |
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| 21:06.25 | valdyn | roxy_: I doubt that, plan9 is probably not POSIX compliant |
| 21:06.58 | zms | dpy2: can you paste corresponding fstab entry? |
| 21:07.15 | valdyn | zms: for what? |
| 21:07.16 | kurumin-thx1138 | irc.irchighway.net |
| 21:07.18 | dpy2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:07.31 | roxy_ | valdyn: I think it is in some way but don't know enough about it to talk about it. I just burned the liveCD and gonna reboot into it. |
| 21:07.34 | valdyn | zms: ops, nm |
| 21:08.00 | zms | valdyn: may be it's not being fsck'ed and it went down incorrectly or something similar.. just a guess. |
| 21:08.00 | kurumin-thx1138 | #sadame |
| 21:08.05 | dpy2 | still no badblock reported for /dev/hdb |
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| 21:08.31 | zms | valdyn: "ops, nm"? <-- sorry I did not follow you. |
| 21:08.57 | valdyn | zms: that's ok, i meant you should ignore my last text |
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| 21:09.45 | tuvwx | i just installed a fresh debian/testing using d-i beta2, and having sound problems: alsa seems installed fine but applications trying to access sound hang |
| 21:10.03 | zms | valdyn: oh, ok. (I am such a noob). |
| 21:10.25 | ReNeiS | HAY ALGUIEN KE HABLE ESPAÑOL? |
| 21:10.34 | freeone3000 | !es |
| 21:10.34 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:10.59 | ReNeiS | OK, GRACIAS |
| 21:11.17 | dpy2 | valdyn: exactly how long does badblocks take for 300GB ? |
| 21:11.18 | Mogurito | ReNeiS, yo |
| 21:11.32 | dpy2 | valdyn: are we talking hours here ? |
| 21:11.47 | zms | dpy2: yes, hours. |
| 21:11.47 | ReNeiS | DE KE SE TRATA EL TEMA MOGURITO |
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| 21:12.11 | freeone3000 | How do you say 'caps lock off' in spanish? |
| 21:12.15 | dpy2 | zms: I don't have hours here, it's too late for that |
| 21:12.16 | unstable | !tell ReNeiS about es |
| 21:12.21 | zms | dpy2: I only wanted to see if last boot fsck'ed the fs. else umount it and run fsck.ext3 on it. |
| 21:12.31 | dpy2 | I'd better abort and try again tomorrow with badblocks |
| 21:12.33 | zms | dpy2: re: your fstab entry |
| 21:12.54 | ReNeiS | MMM, NO SE |
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| 21:13.00 | spiekey | hello! |
| 21:13.03 | Eulex | ReNeiS, ve a #debian-es, por favor |
| 21:13.14 | dpy2 | zms: I manually fsck.ext3 the partition yes, after it remounted the partition in readonly, I umounted and ran fsck.ext3 |
| 21:13.21 | dpy2 | it had to fix a lot of inodes |
| 21:13.25 | Eulex | ReNeiS, /join #debian-es |
| 21:13.30 | freeone3000 | So... partitions should be reguarlly fsckd. |
| 21:13.46 | Eulex | freeone3000, indeed |
| 21:13.58 | spiekey | this might be a little OT, but can anyone here recommend me a motherboard where i can use/have ECC/vanderpool and 64Bit CPU? |
| 21:14.00 | ReNeiS | EULEX? ERES EL EL DIRECTOR DE ESTA SALA? |
| 21:14.09 | zms | freeone3000: if they are not umounted clean and if you also are not using journalling fs. |
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| 21:14.45 | freeone3000 | ReNeiS: Solo ve a #debian-es. Menos gende pude comprehendar aqui. |
| 21:14.50 | freeone3000 | *gente |
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| 21:15.02 | factor | does anyone know about the latest builds of debian kimagemapeditor |
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| 21:15.05 | ReNeiS | JAJAJA, OK |
| 21:15.12 | Mogurito | ReNeiS, y baja las mayusculas |
| 21:15.12 | ReNeiS | ADIOS |
| 21:15.14 | Eulex | ReNeiS, no, no soy |
| 21:15.20 | factor | it crashes with error on libthreads |
| 21:15.29 | harleyg | http://pastebin.com/660350 - can someone help out? |
| 21:15.44 | frank_farmer | Newb question: What's the debian equivalent of "ipconfig /release"? "pump -r" just says "operation failed". |
| 21:15.45 | tuvwx | i'm using kernel 2.6.15-686-smp (alsa 1.0.10rc3), snd_atiixp kernel module.. gstreamer seems to be able to produce sound for almost 1sec. before it hangs too |
| 21:15.47 | ReNeiS | YO ESCRIBO COMO ME DA LA GANA, OK? |
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| 21:15.59 | yanmorin | is there a problem with the capslock key in debian or what? |
| 21:15.59 | freeone3000 | frank_farmer: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
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| 21:16.06 | freeone3000 | frank_farmer: Probably not exact, but it works good. |
| 21:16.11 | frank_farmer | freeone3000: Thanks! |
| 21:16.13 | freeone3000 | yacoob: I don't see one. |
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| 21:16.41 | tritux_ | greetings all |
| 21:16.45 | jayeola | dpkg: pdk |
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| 21:17.03 | harleyg | anyone? |
| 21:17.33 | tritux_ | am seeking if debian can collaborate with us to respond to an invitation to tender about installing a high perf mail solution |
| 21:17.34 | stew | harleyg: /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:17.38 | harleyg | ok |
| 21:17.43 | tritux_ | for whom should i talk |
| 21:17.45 | frank_farmer | Okay. What the hell. I imaged box2 from box1. No matter what I do, they both seem to get the same IP from DHCP, even after the ifdown/ifup cycle. |
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| 21:18.09 | jayeola | does everyone see the results of my dpkg queries? i dont wannna flood the channel |
| 21:18.17 | freeone3000 | frank_farmer: Try doing it with one, then with the other. |
| 21:18.22 | dondelelcaro | jayeola: /msg the bug |
| 21:18.24 | dondelelcaro | s/bug/bot |
| 21:18.39 | Reilithion | frank_farmer, are you certain they're configured to use DHCP? Or could they be trying to use static IPs? |
| 21:18.40 | freeone3000 | frank_farmer: With ifdown eth0; and ifup eth0 diffrent commands... Or edit your interface list, see man interfaces |
| 21:18.41 | dpy2 | zms: any more clues ? |
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| 21:18.50 | Eulex | tritux, debian itself won't do that |
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| 21:19.37 | frank_farmer | freeone3000: I did. ifdown/ifup on the first gets .102. Then, on the second, ifdown/ifup gets .102 as well. where "ifdown/ifup" = "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0". Maybe my DHCP server just sucks :| |
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| 21:20.00 | frank_farmer | Using a vonage box atm. :p |
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| 21:20.32 | tritux_ | Eulex, to be clear, we're going to provide GPL software (Debian OS, ...) for free ! we're gonne bill the working days only |
| 21:20.33 | zms | dpy2: well. LBA, fsck and badblocks are pretty much it :( afaik |
| 21:20.54 | tritux_ | we're seeking for debian gurus to take part with us |
| 21:21.08 | tritux_ | is it legitim ? ;) |
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| 21:21.13 | freeone3000 | GNU software. Free. Billing only working days? |
| 21:21.16 | freeone3000 | Ehm. |
| 21:21.29 | frank_farmer | my /etc/network/interfaces includes the line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
| 21:21.30 | stew | tritux_: http://debian.org/consultants |
| 21:21.38 | InitMass | is there a way to play .flv files in linux? |
| 21:21.52 | tritux_ | i saw that |
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| 21:22.04 | tritux_ | we need an official debian representation |
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| 21:22.19 | freeone3000 | InitMass: What is a .flv file? |
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| 21:22.30 | RobHu | freeone3000: Flash Video |
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| 21:22.36 | dpy2 | zms: on the latest remount, /pub/mp3 turned up empty |
| 21:22.37 | _Roey | hi |
| 21:22.39 | tritux_ | we'll not get fees for that ! we just want to let debian get the offer |
| 21:22.48 | dpy2 | zms: there is something really wrong here |
| 21:22.49 | InitMass | freeone3000, yes as RobHu said |
| 21:22.55 | Eulex | tritux_, debian itself is purely non-commercial. |
| 21:22.59 | Roey | hi! why do I get this after issuing startx? http://rafb.net/paste/results/GVZLvV56.html |
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| 21:25.16 | jplibre | freeone3000: you're confusing your "free"s |
| 21:25.26 | jplibre | freeone3000: libre != gratis |
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| 21:26.05 | jplibre | billing for development of Free Software goes on ALL THE TIME |
| 21:26.52 | InitMass | RobHu, any idea on how to play 'em? |
| 21:27.01 | RobHu | InitMass: Sorry no |
| 21:27.04 | Damon | by all |
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| 21:27.18 | RobHu | InitMass: I think there are players for win32 but not for linux |
| 21:27.21 | Roey | can anyone help me with this X problem? chicalinux maybe? |
| 21:27.36 | RobHu | InitMass: You could try mplayer / vlc but I dont think they work with them |
| 21:27.45 | chicalinux | jejejejejeje |
| 21:27.55 | Roey | chicalinux: hey hey |
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| 21:28.01 | InitMass | RobHu, yes i found one called flvplayer. it runs with wine but i have to drag files into the program and that doesn't work |
| 21:28.03 | stew | Roey: what does apt-cache policy xserver-common say for Installed: and Candidate:? |
| 21:28.06 | chicalinux | whats the problem maybe i can help you |
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| 21:28.21 | Roey | xserver-common: |
| 21:28.21 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.21 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.21 | Eulex | RobHu, I doubt it; flash is not a video format. it can be used for storing videos, though. |
| 21:28.28 | yggdrasil | que pasa chica |
| 21:28.29 | Roey | stew: I have trouble getting xorg 7 installed. |
| 21:28.31 | unstable | !tell Roey about paste |
| 21:28.32 | RobHu | InitMass: I have tried to play them on linux but failed :/ |
| 21:28.36 | Roey | right right. |
| 21:28.38 | Roey | I know. |
| 21:28.43 | stew | Roey: install x-window-system |
| 21:28.44 | unstable | !tell Roey about unstable |
| 21:28.49 | stew | Roey: err x-window-system-core |
| 21:28.54 | stew | Roey: why do you want xorg7? |
| 21:28.57 | chicalinux | well |
| 21:28.57 | freeone3000 | You could always gin up a html page and view it in firefox, with Flash plugin installed. |
| 21:28.58 | RobHu | Eulex: I promise you it is 'flash video', we make them at work |
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| 21:29.05 | chicalinux | i have a problem myself |
| 21:29.07 | Roey | The following packages have unmet dependencies:\n x-window-system: Depends: x-window-system-core |
| 21:29.07 | InitMass | RobHu, it's a pity. i've got so many good movies in that format |
| 21:29.21 | chicalinux | i want to install the new gnome |
| 21:29.24 | chicalinux | 2.14 |
| 21:29.25 | freeone3000 | Roey: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 21:29.25 | RobHu | InitMass: There might be a way, I just didn't find it |
| 21:29.28 | Eulex | RobHu, ah, ok |
| 21:29.30 | stew | Roey: run apt-get update |
| 21:29.32 | chicalinux | but i dont know how |
| 21:29.38 | Roey | stew, freeone3000 I've tried. |
| 21:29.48 | freeone3000 | Roey: More unmet depends? |
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| 21:29.52 | freeone3000 | Roey: Try aptitudeing it. |
| 21:29.52 | InitMass | RobHu, and to install a plugin for ff isn't the way to go? |
| 21:30.00 | freeone3000 | (aptitude install x-window-system-core) |
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| 21:30.08 | RobHu | InitMass: I don't know - it was about 6 months ago I tried to get it to work |
| 21:30.30 | chicalinux | nobady???? =( |
| 21:30.52 | InitMass | RobHu, do you know how to check which version of flashplayer is installed into my ff? |
| 21:30.54 | RobHu | chicalinux: Whats the problem? Can you not find it in apt? |
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| 21:31.04 | RobHu | InitMass: Sorry no. Although you can look in apt maybe? |
| 21:31.05 | Roey | freeone3000: using aptitude, I get the feeling that it's probably like swallowing a big fat cock. I hate this thing. |
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| 21:31.17 | freeone3000 | Roey: But it fixes depends. |
| 21:31.17 | katar | ggg |
| 21:31.18 | Roey | freeone3000: (apt-get user here) |
| 21:31.24 | Roey | freeone3000: didn't fix it for me :) |
| 21:31.28 | freeone3000 | It's also slow, and rather... yeah. |
| 21:31.36 | chicalinux | no is the i use ubuntu and i dont know is gnome2.14 will worh there |
| 21:31.38 | Roey | freeone3000: the only method it offered of fixing the dependencies for me was to remove X :P |
| 21:31.44 | Eulex | chicalinux & RobHu, gnome 2.14 is not in debian yet. parts are, but not all of it. |
| 21:31.51 | stew | Roey: put your sources.list into a pastebin |
| 21:31.59 | Roey | stew: ah! ok, one sec. |
| 21:32.08 | katar | goodevening to florence |
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| 21:32.17 | Eulex | chicalinux, and those parts are in unstable, and possibly in testing |
| 21:32.24 | chicalinux | uyyy |
| 21:32.25 | frank_farmer | Okay, this is funny. When I plug my two debian boxes into the network that the Vonage box is doing DHCP for, they both get .102. When I plug them into my network with the linksys box doing DHCP, they get unique IPs. |
| 21:32.31 | pngwn | quit |
| 21:32.35 | Eulex | chicalinux, basically, to get a full gnome 2.14, you'd need to build it yourself. |
| 21:32.46 | Roey | stew: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aZOc1964.html |
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| 21:32.49 | chicalinux | jjejejejejejje i wait :) |
| 21:32.49 | Roey | stew: btw thanks |
| 21:32.53 | stew | Eulex: he's not using debian |
| 21:33.14 | stew | chicalinux: go to #ubuntu for questions about ubuntu |
| 21:33.15 | Eulex | stew, who? RobHu? |
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| 21:33.34 | RobHu | I'm using Debian - but I'm not sure why I'm part of this conversation ;-) |
| 21:33.34 | Eulex | ah, chicalinux |
| 21:33.35 | stew | Eulex: chicalinux |
| 21:33.41 | chicalinux | =( but i like here i have to go ? |
| 21:33.42 | tarzeau | anyone is using enblend? |
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| 21:33.54 | RobHu | chicalinux: Have you looked on the gnome site itself ? |
| 21:33.54 | stew | Roey: xorg is broken for amd64 atm, check the bts |
| 21:33.54 | cahoot | tarzeau: sporadically yes |
| 21:33.59 | Roey | AHHHH |
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| 21:33.59 | Roey | ok |
| 21:33.59 | chicalinux | yes |
| 21:34.03 | Eulex | chicalinux, if you install debian you can stay |
| 21:34.03 | tarzeau | cahoot: your own debian package? |
| 21:34.05 | Roey | stew: YES I thought it was. |
| 21:34.09 | Roey | stew: thank you for confirming |
| 21:34.16 | RobHu | chicalinux: Doesnt it tell you how to install it on there? |
| 21:34.17 | tarzeau | cahoot: it's in ITP(wnpp) for over 400 days... it's HILARIOUS |
| 21:34.19 | Roey | stew: the xfonts packages are held back. |
| 21:34.27 | tarzeau | cahoot: 5 or so people discuss packaging it. nobody does it |
| 21:34.30 | chicalinux | welll ok byeee guys |
| 21:34.33 | stew | Roey: /msg dpkg held back |
| 21:34.35 | Roey | stew: do you know anything regarding when they'll get fixed? |
| 21:34.38 | tarzeau | cahoot: i'm building a package now, of 0.2.5 |
| 21:34.47 | stew | Roey: no, the bts probably does though |
| 21:34.48 | tarzeau | err 2.5 |
| 21:34.48 | chicalinux | i am goig to debian-es |
| 21:34.56 | cahoot | tarzeau: IIRC I pulled an unofficial deb |
| 21:34.57 | stew | chicalinux: no, #ubuntu-es |
| 21:34.58 | Roey | stew: you helped me big-time, thanks |
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| 21:35.10 | tarzeau | cahoot: ubuntu? |
| 21:35.19 | cahoot | I'll look |
| 21:35.27 | tarzeau | cahoot: hilarious anyways. is it so hard to maintain a package for non DD people? |
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| 21:35.34 | tarzeau | something is FUCKING WRONG with debian |
| 21:35.39 | tarzeau | if there's so much unofficial debs |
| 21:35.44 | tarzeau | debian used to be cool |
| 21:35.49 | tarzeau | it used to have the latest software |
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| 21:35.54 | tarzeau | AND NOW? |
| 21:36.02 | tarzeau | PERMASUNDAYON#DEBIAN |
| 21:36.04 | Roey | stew: I check b.d.o/xorg but this does not mention amd64 at all |
| 21:36.13 | miki2 | hey, i got problem with xserver-xorg and ATi videocard driver |
| 21:36.19 | tarzeau | miki2: YOUR PROBLEM! |
| 21:36.21 | tarzeau | miki2: #ati |
| 21:36.35 | miki2 | its related to xserver-xorg |
| 21:36.36 | tarzeau | !SID FAQ |
| 21:36.36 | dpkg | well, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 21:36.37 | stew | miki2: you have to tell us what the exact problem is |
| 21:36.38 | freeone3000 | ATi video card drivers. I dislike them. |
| 21:36.39 | Roey | miki2: hehe |
| 21:36.42 | tarzeau | !TOPICSMITE miki2 |
| 21:36.42 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon miki2. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 21:36.48 | cahoot | tarzeau: the deb is gone - have enblend, version 2.3 on my system - god knows from where |
| 21:37.04 | tarzeau | cahoot: don't worry, tarzeau the hero will maintain it in debian |
| 21:37.12 | miki2 | so i should ask in #ati about xserver-xorg? |
| 21:37.15 | cahoot | tarzeau: nice work |
| 21:37.19 | tarzeau | miki2: you should not use sid |
| 21:37.35 | miki2 | y not |
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| 21:37.55 | tarzeau | WHY NOT? |
| 21:37.59 | tarzeau | !eat miki2 |
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| 21:38.24 | mhall | tarzeau: ehehe |
| 21:39.27 | simonrvn | miki2: because clueless people shouldn't, frankly. one should know what they're doing with sid, it's not just stable with another name .... |
| 21:39.41 | Eulex | !calmdown tarzeau and miki2 |
| 21:39.54 | cahoot | tarzeau: you also provide the panotools then? |
| 21:40.01 | mhall | :annoy Eulex |
| 21:40.07 | mhall | !annoy Eulex |
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| 21:40.13 | tarzeau | cahoot: once i find someone to sponsor enblend, why not |
| 21:40.16 | simonrvn | @annoy mhall |
| 21:40.17 | Eulex | hehehe |
| 21:40.18 | ravenbird | mhall: HOW TO THIS????? |
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| 21:40.25 | mhall | simonrvn: heh |
| 21:40.26 | tarzeau | cahoot: but i'll keep the panopictures of my nude spanked secretary for myself |
| 21:40.34 | mhall | Eulex: damn you Eulex you win this time |
| 21:40.34 | freeone3000 | Eh... I had some trouble with unstable. New X. Someone should make the dependences correct themselves. :) |
| 21:40.34 | tarzeau | cahoot: i hope you understand this little privacy |
| 21:40.48 | mhall | tarzeau: porn trading? |
| 21:40.49 | cahoot | tarzeau: yeah I guess he wants it that way too ;) |
| 21:40.53 | Eulex | mhall, won't last long :) |
| 21:40.56 | tarzeau | mhall: what do you have? :) |
| 21:41.00 | simonrvn | freebse: XSF worked on it all night last night. should be fixed soon |
| 21:41.09 | simonrvn | freebse: woops |
| 21:41.14 | simonrvn | freeone3000: ^^^ |
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| 21:41.51 | mhall | The following packages will be REMOVED: ... nvidia-glx ... o_O |
| 21:42.08 | freeone3000 | It doesn't have openGL support anyway. |
| 21:42.10 | simonrvn | yes, because of a stupid dep that hasn't been updated yet |
| 21:42.14 | mhall | tarzeau: let's see |
| 21:42.18 | simonrvn | mhall: ^^^ |
| 21:42.31 | simonrvn | same goes for the -legacy package |
| 21:43.32 | mhall | tarzeau: 47G of a 187G volume plus 34G of a 140G volume |
| 21:43.56 | simonrvn | ffs, my main box has less than 47 GB ... |
| 21:44.00 | tarzeau | mhall: great i've got 230 G free disk space |
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| 21:44.46 | freeone3000 | Ooh. HP. Those're nice. :) |
| 21:44.56 | dpy2 | tarzeau: without a reboot, and doing nothing in particular, the harddisk seems to be fine again now.... this is really weird |
| 21:44.59 | hans0lo | When I insert a memory card into my card reader, and try to mount, it says "/dev/sda1 does not exist", I can fdisk /dev/sda and I can see partition 1. I think it's something to do with udev - is there a way to make it 'refresh', or always create sda1? |
| 21:45.10 | simonrvn | heh, nice phat pair of 36 GB SCSI drives would be fine :P |
| 21:45.30 | tarzeau | dpy2: it could be the firmware, these days those disks also have a list of badblocks |
| 21:45.42 | tarzeau | dpy2: that they relocate , like scsi did since decades of years |
| 21:45.59 | dpy2 | tarzeau: so the harddisk is still crap |
| 21:46.07 | tarzeau | dpy2: no, if it works again, it's nice |
| 21:46.13 | tarzeau | dpy2: unless, it does it again. it happens |
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| 21:46.33 | tarzeau | dpy2: i've had last week one that was fine again, and another that just fucked up, right after the vendor hd check |
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| 21:46.49 | tarzeau | dpy2: but it's just a harddisk. discussint it's crap is waste of time. all hard disks are crap |
| 21:46.56 | tarzeau | dpy2: just use it, if it breaks, replace it |
| 21:47.01 | dpy2 | tarzeau: but it's brand new... but now I can't prove there is anything wrong with it |
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| 21:47.11 | tarzeau | dpy2: LOOK. BRAND NEW doesn't get you laid |
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| 21:47.20 | tarzeau | dpy2: is that so hard to understand? |
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| 21:47.29 | WnnR | Anyone know how to get 'old' packages that are no longer on the debian repositories? Specifically xorg... |
| 21:47.36 | tarzeau | dpy2: got no girlfriend? |
| 21:47.47 | tuvwx | how can i uninstall a scaling_driver? modprobe -r acpi_cpufreq returns that acpi_cpufreq is in use and i don't know how to remove it from scaling_driver |
| 21:47.50 | tarzeau | WnnR: from packages.debian.org (some have oldstable links) |
| 21:47.51 | dpy2 | tarzeau: I was more talking.. if it is brand new and has troubles, shouldn't I send it back to have it replaced right away ? |
| 21:47.53 | ramortegui | hi every body.... someone know what program diferent to mldonkey run in debian (faster than mldonkey or amule?) |
| 21:47.59 | tarzeau | dpy2: no |
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| 21:48.01 | stew | WnnR: /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 21:48.10 | tarzeau | dpy2: unless you love bureaucracy and waste of time |
| 21:48.15 | WnnR | thanx tarzeau, will check it out |
| 21:48.22 | dpy2 | k |
| 21:48.26 | dpy2 | tnx for the advise |
| 21:48.30 | tarzeau | ramortegui: wget |
| 21:48.33 | simonrvn | "advice" |
| 21:49.31 | Eulex | ramortegui, a lot of stuff runs faster than either. |
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| 21:49.45 | simonrvn | like a shell... :P |
| 21:50.03 | tarzeau | ramortegui: don't msg me. unlike you have firm huge boobs and long blonde hair |
| 21:50.04 | Eulex | indeed |
| 21:50.13 | Eulex | *unless |
| 21:50.21 | tarzeau | Eulex: true |
| 21:50.26 | mhall | tarzeau: you are quite the misogynist |
| 21:50.34 | tuvwx | what scaling_driver should i use to remove the current one??? |
| 21:50.45 | mhall | tarzeau: (not criticizing, just observing) |
| 21:50.55 | Eulex | tuvwx, none? |
| 21:50.59 | tarzeau | mhall: i like women. why do you think i dislike them? |
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| 21:51.12 | mhall | tarzeau: i'm just giving you a hard time |
| 21:51.14 | tarzeau | mhall: i'm just picky about it |
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| 21:51.19 | tarzeau | mhall: nah, you're not |
| 21:51.20 | ramortegui | tarzeau: ok ... I'm learning about comunicate in irc |
| 21:51.22 | Eulex | tuvwx, but try performance, it keeps the speed at max all the time |
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| 21:51.55 | simonrvn | ffs, these floppies are crap... they don't make them like they used to |
| 21:52.08 | tarzeau | simonrvn: tried superformat on it? |
| 21:52.16 | tuvwx | Eulex, that is the scaling_governer.. i already have performance but i'm stuck with scaling_driver.. i cannot remove it or install an alternative one.. i have acpu_cpufreq now |
| 21:52.22 | simonrvn | why should i bother |
| 21:52.26 | tarzeau | what's funny is, floppies are more expensive than cd-r, no? |
| 21:52.38 | tarzeau | simonrvn: true. because you use floppies still |
| 21:52.39 | Eulex | tuvwx, ah, sorry. what cpu? |
| 21:52.47 | tuvwx | Eulex, mobile p4 |
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| 21:52.52 | ramortegui | i'm trying to download [m0d] Richard Stallman - El Movimiento del Software Libre y el Sistema Operativo GNU-Linux (Parte 1)fmatgygi.avi but it's to slower |
| 21:52.59 | tuvwx | Eulex, with HT |
| 21:53.02 | Eulex | tuvwx, hmm, ok. I don't think there's an alternative then. |
| 21:53.04 | mhall | tarzeau: giving somebody a hard time heißt sowieso 'in die Zange nehmen' |
| 21:53.06 | Eulex | tuvwx, *shudder* |
| 21:53.16 | tarzeau | mhall: seit wann kannst du deutsch? |
| 21:53.19 | simonrvn | talk about lap burn ... |
| 21:53.23 | WnnR | stew, that was exactly it, thx |
| 21:53.26 | mhall | tarzeau: seit 1998 |
| 21:53.32 | tuvwx | Eulex, i know.. i'm just debuggin something and would like to have no cpu scaling at all |
| 21:53.33 | Eulex | tuvwx, nice battery length, eh? ;) |
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| 21:53.42 | tarzeau | mhall: ich nehme lieber meine sekretaerin uebers kniee |
| 21:53.45 | simonrvn | 10 minutes |
| 21:53.46 | freeone3000 | Where's my x conf file? |
| 21:53.53 | tarzeau | freeone3000: /etc/X11 ? |
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| 21:53.57 | tienchi | hi, why gnome-fonts-properties doesnt show some fonts??? so not all of the fonts i have. |
| 21:54.01 | mhall | tarzeau: wie sieht sie aus? |
| 21:54.02 | tuvwx | Eulex, actually i'm mostly on ac ;) |
| 21:54.02 | Eulex | tuvwx, you could try just modprobe -r acpi-cpufreq (and anything that might be using it) |
| 21:54.04 | tarzeau | tienchi: xorg 7? |
| 21:54.14 | tarzeau | mhall: niedlich, vor allem nachdem ich sie gebumst habe |
| 21:54.24 | tienchi | tarzeau, XFree86 |
| 21:54.25 | tarzeau | mhall: lange blonde haare, schlank, apfelgrosse titten |
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| 21:54.36 | Eulex | ahem |
| 21:54.46 | tuvwx | Eulex, nothing seems to be using it (except that it is set in scaling_driver and i cant' remove it from there) and modprobe -r says "in use" |
| 21:54.46 | thingfish | :/ |
| 21:54.50 | simonrvn | fuck |
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| 21:54.59 | tim_flatus | Is anyone familiar with Cube (the game engine) or DRI/mesa/glide issues with etch even? |
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| 21:55.14 | tarzeau | tim_flatus: i think the debian games aliaoth team wants to package it |
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| 21:55.23 | mhall | tarzeau: (zurück ins englische wegen kanalregeln geh ich) i have to go to a protest to prevent the university from dropping foreign language courses from their approval list for the general literature requirement |
| 21:55.25 | tarzeau | tim_flatus: there's also a channel #sauerbraten about it, on a different irc network |
| 21:55.34 | tuvwx | Eulex, so back to my question: how can i uninstall a scaling_driver? in this case acpi_cpufreq |
| 21:55.36 | KingNerd | Nerds need to either exterminate or rule over neolithic humans but we cannot live side by side by them nor be subjugated to their politics and religions |
| 21:55.42 | tim_flatus | tarzeau, good news, they?l have to remove most of the packages first though. |
| 21:55.54 | thingfish | <sigh> |
| 21:56.05 | tarzeau | mhall: like yoda you speak :) |
| 21:56.06 | simonrvn | KingNerd: whatever. go preach elsewhere. |
| 21:56.06 | Eulex | tuvwx, cpufreq-ondemand or whatever you're using is probably using acpi-cpufreq. try removing it first. |
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| 21:56.21 | mhall | tarzeau: if they do, many fewer people will have room to take these courses and the language departments will lose enrollment |
| 21:56.26 | Eulex | tuvwx, with modprobe -r, that is |
| 21:56.32 | tuvwx | Eulex, i changed to performance, which shouldn't.. it's a static governer |
| 21:56.34 | mhall | tarzeau: also we are protesting that they quit offering german as a hauptfach |
| 21:56.37 | tim_flatus | tarzeau, Yeah, I´m there already. They´re all idle right now. |
| 21:56.51 | tuvwx | Eulex, performance isn't even a module |
| 21:56.55 | KingNerd | simonrvn: The neolithic humans retard the evolution of the human species as a whole |
| 21:56.59 | tarzeau | mhall: it's good you go there |
| 21:57.06 | simonrvn | right. |
| 21:57.06 | tarzeau | tim_flatus: talk again in 8 hours |
| 21:57.16 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 21:57.19 | Eulex | tuvwx, you've or they built performance statically? guess you're fucked then |
| 21:57.36 | tim_flatus | tarzeau, thanks. I might go hassle debian-games then |
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| 21:57.45 | simonrvn | KingNerd: i guess you have something against me, then, eh? |
| 21:57.50 | tarzeau | tim_flatus: yes do so :) but be kind |
| 21:57.50 | simonrvn | idjit |
| 21:57.52 | mhall | tarzeau: i hope it will get restored, i'm in favor of the padagogische austausch idea |
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| 21:58.05 | tim_flatus | tarzeau, always. :) |
| 21:58.08 | tuvwx | Eulex, can i remove performance? |
| 21:58.08 | mhall | tarzeau: it's in two minutes at 3 PM |
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| 21:58.23 | simonrvn | *PLONK* |
| 21:58.25 | tarzeau | mhall: good luck. i hope you are successful |
| 21:58.32 | Eulex | tuvwx, if it's built statically into the kernel and nnot as a module, I don't think so. |
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| 21:58.39 | tarzeau | mhall: and even if you aren't. try to make the best of it |
| 21:59.13 | tuvwx | Eulex, i don't have to remove it from the kernel.. just from scaling_governer |
| 21:59.31 | dpy2 | almost bed time here, time for an episode of tng |
| 21:59.45 | tuvwx | Eulex, i just removed 'em all from /etc/modules and will try and reboot.. see you in a bit |
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| 22:02.10 | KingNerd | simonrvn: Why do you claim to be of a first world nation state and part of the neolithic tribe demographic ? |
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| 22:02.33 | yggdrasil | is therea cmd line tool to scan for networks ? |
| 22:02.34 | tuvwx | Eulex, that worked :) |
| 22:02.41 | yggdrasil | uh wireless networks sorry.. |
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| 22:02.49 | Eulex | tuvwx, that's cool |
| 22:03.06 | w3rdn4 | are US post offices open on Saturday? |
| 22:03.09 | miki | kingnerd: even monkeys are neolithic |
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| 22:03.22 | freeone3000 | Hi... |
| 22:03.22 | ojai | w3rdn4: yeah, just shorter hours |
| 22:03.37 | freeone3000 | The propriatary Nvidia driver no longer works with unstable's X? |
| 22:03.46 | tarzeau | freeone3000: yes it does |
| 22:03.49 | beered | How do I install kernel-headers for 2.6.16.5 kernel? |
| 22:03.53 | tarzeau | freeone3000: i got assuered from #nvidia |
| 22:03.56 | freeone3000 | Ah... I'm doing something wrong, then. |
| 22:03.59 | tarzeau | beered: just apt-get install it? |
| 22:04.06 | tarzeau | beered: or make your own, make-kpkg |
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| 22:04.15 | factor | freeone3000:it is a module link change |
| 22:04.17 | beered | tarzeau: how do I make my own kpkg? |
| 22:04.19 | freeone3000 | I allow it to edit my config, it created my kernel interface... |
| 22:04.36 | tarzeau | !make-kpkg |
| 22:04.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, make-kpkg is the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra> |
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| 22:04.58 | tuvwx | Eulex, this is the strangest thing.. acpi_cpufreq was causing me alsa sound problems!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:05.02 | factor | freeone3000:etc/X11/xorg.conf add in ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" |
| 22:05.12 | tuvwx | Eulex, they're all gone now.. i can't beleive it |
| 22:05.15 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, trying that... (irssi, otherwise wouldn't have a problem) |
| 22:05.16 | dpy2 | tarzeau: it's happening again :/ |
| 22:05.38 | KingNerd | miki: the biggest enemies of nerds are not subaverage people or the paleotropical tribe but smartest of the neolithic tribe |
| 22:05.40 | tarzeau | dpy2: then that's bad luck for you |
| 22:06.16 | RobHu | Is it possible to get an earlier testing amd64 netinst iso? Earlier than the ones on the debian site? The latest just isnt working with my broadcom network card no matter what I do |
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| 22:06.27 | Eulex | tuvwx, umh.... that's.. strange |
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| 22:06.50 | tuvwx | Eulex, have you got any other explanation?? |
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| 22:07.22 | miki | kingnerd: i dont care, just stated stpid fact |
| 22:07.30 | Eulex | tuvwx, sorry, I don't. btw, why did you need to get rid of the governor? couldn't you use performance? |
| 22:07.34 | hedi | bye guys |
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| 22:07.44 | beered | Can somebody tell me how to custom kernel header sources. I don't know what "-I/usr/src/linux/include/ to your command line when compiling" means. |
| 22:07.46 | tuvwx | Eulex, could it be my bios' acpi or it is just the module? the module didn't used to install in previous kernels |
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| 22:08.12 | KingNerd | miki: somehow I doubt monkeys could smelt metal into tools to become part the neolithic etc... etc.... |
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| 22:08.13 | Eulex | tuvwx, maybe |
| 22:08.18 | beered | I made my kernel with kpkg but headers are missing. |
| 22:08.32 | beered | and there are no apt-get headers for this kernel. |
| 22:08.34 | tarzeau | beered: make-kpkg kernel_headers ? |
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| 22:08.36 | PSG|Tartiflette | I have this error when i start LDAP "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1" nobody know where is my problem ? |
| 22:08.37 | tuvwx | Eulex, performance is a scaling_governer and acpi is a scaling_driver.. i had to have to governers to be able to remove the driver |
| 22:08.55 | beered | tarzeau: that easy, huh? |
| 22:09.16 | tarzeau | beered: yes |
| 22:09.17 | tuvwx | Eulex, i couldn't have "no governers" |
| 22:09.19 | miki | kingnerd: fact that monkey can use things like wooden sticks or even fire makes em somehow neolithic |
| 22:09.22 | beered | tarzeau: that's not right. |
| 22:09.36 | tarzeau | es it is |
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| 22:09.54 | Eulex | tuvwx, yes, I know the difference, I just confused them earlier. wouldn't performance have the same effect as having no governor? |
| 22:10.02 | KingNerd | miki: no that makes them stone age perhaps |
| 22:10.05 | RazaMetaL | hi |
| 22:10.07 | beered | tarzeau: it's too easy. |
| 22:10.14 | RazaMetaL | what app can I use to rip cdaudio to mp3 ? |
| 22:10.24 | tuvwx | Eulex, i tried that but acpi still reported "in use" when i tried to remove it |
| 22:10.26 | Eulex | RazaMetaL, abcde |
| 22:10.26 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.56 | tuvwx | Eulex, now that i don't have a driver, the whole cpufreq directory is gone from the /sys tree |
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| 22:10.59 | Eulex | tuvwx, heh, ok |
| 22:11.05 | miki | kingnerd: well... we could argue about that but im not in mod... very discussable thing tho |
| 22:11.06 | miki | heh |
| 22:11.36 | loca | am getting problems opening a raw socket with a user account : ERROR for sendto : Invalid argument |
| 22:11.43 | w3rdn4 | how doy ou know what tax forms to use? |
| 22:11.52 | loca | why should this happen, and not happen with root ? |
| 22:12.03 | tuvwx | Eulex, that's too bad.. i guess i'll have to live with the clumsy p4_clockmod.. |
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| 22:12.22 | tim_flatus | RazaMetaL, RipperX, grip |
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| 22:13.00 | xarragon | Hello, I have trouble with the default papersize in my system. '/etc/papersize' is set to a4, as well as the cups system. I've set LC_PAPER to 'sv_SE.iso88591', and uses the 'media' option of lpr/lp to force a4 as well. Printer is HPLJ5N on JetDirect, printer system is HPIJS/Foomatic/CUPS. Any ideas/further suggestions? |
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| 22:14.08 | aFlag | when I start X on gnome an error pops out saying |
| 22:14.09 | aFlag | Error activating XKB configuration. |
| 22:14.09 | aFlag | Probably internal X server problem. |
| 22:14.16 | aFlag | it doesn't give much information |
| 22:14.28 | Eulex | aFlag, is this unstable? |
| 22:14.57 | aFlag | no, sarge |
| 22:15.03 | beered | Can somebody translate this for me: The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.5) does not match your running |
| 22:15.06 | beered | kernel (version 2.6.16.5). Even if the module were to compile successfully, it |
| 22:15.10 | beered | would not load into the running kernel. |
| 22:15.18 | aFlag | http://homepages.dcc.ufmg.br/~rafaelc/error.png |
| 22:15.22 | aFlag | that's what i get |
| 22:15.25 | yggdrasil | what do i need to install to make a gatweay computer ... ie 2 network cards ? |
| 22:15.27 | tim_flatus | aFlag, do you actually have any problems apart from that? |
| 22:15.31 | yggdrasil | one to lan one to wan |
| 22:15.31 | aFlag | no |
| 22:15.34 | aFlag | just that |
| 22:15.53 | tim_flatus | aFlag, I wouldn´t worry unduly |
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| 22:16.21 | aFlag | well, i don't want it to come up on the screen everytime I log in though |
| 22:16.40 | Eulex | aFlag, check .xsession-errors |
| 22:17.07 | sparr | anyone here who doesnt have gimp installed, would you be willing to install it and take a screenshot of the default configuration for me? |
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| 22:17.44 | yggdrasil | sparr im sure theres just a .gimp file |
| 22:17.47 | Eulex | sparr, as I said a few hours ago, can't you find that on gimp.org? |
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| 22:18.04 | yggdrasil | what do i use to make a router/gateway computer .. two nics jsut not sure what to install. |
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| 22:18.27 | tarzeau | yggdrasil: iptables |
| 22:18.36 | Squall` | This is probably a pretty esoteric and/or trivial operation, but is there a command to remove a kernel package? |
| 22:18.38 | yggdrasil | ip tables huh thatnks |
| 22:18.49 | sparr | Eulex: what i recall with debian seems to be unlike what gimp.org says the default should be. if debian has a different default then i have some harsh words for the package maintainer |
| 22:18.55 | thingfish | Squall`: apt-get remove <target kernel> |
| 22:19.03 | Squall` | thingfish, awesome |
| 22:19.05 | Squall` | thanks |
| 22:19.10 | aFlag | Eulex, there's nothing too unsual there I think |
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| 22:19.21 | tuvwx | Eulex, where such a conflict should be reported? |
| 22:19.33 | tuvwx | Eulex, snd_atiixp and acpi_cpufreq |
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| 22:19.43 | jdhutchin1 | sparr, maybe the package maintainer has good reason to change the defaults? |
| 22:19.50 | ResPiDeR | I know this is annoying but do anyone know when gnome 2.16 is going to be in unstable or etch? |
| 22:19.56 | aFlag | this is what i have on my .xsession-erros: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CSIOZ742.html |
| 22:20.04 | Eulex | sparr, I don't think so. you could try removing the .gimp directory in your home directory. |
| 22:20.37 | Eulex | tuvwx, the bug tracking system, or if you upgrade to the latest kernel version and it still persists, ask the kernel mailing list |
| 22:20.43 | sparr | jdhutchin1: then i want to hear it. i missed out on some great features that are apparent in the default layout but not in what i had. |
| 22:20.54 | tuvwx | Eulex, is 2.6.15 the latest? |
| 22:21.25 | Eulex | tuvwx, no, 2.6.16 is |
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| 22:25.20 | beered | I have kernel_headers compiled. How do I direct the installation to /usr/src/linux/inclide/? |
| 22:25.36 | AngelGabriel | I'm looking for a floppy disk image that will allow me to boot a CD, can anyone point me in the right direction please? |
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| 22:27.52 | mngrif | AngelGabriel, google for "small boot manager" |
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| 22:29.49 | Bazy | I have php4-mysql and mysql is running, I can connect to it with phpmyadmin but i have an aplication that generates the error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect(), with package does contain that php function, mysql_connect ? |
| 22:31.07 | Bazy | !php4-mysql |
| 22:31.08 | bbrazil | Bazy: add mysql to your php.ini, it should already be there though |
| 22:31.51 | Bazy | !mysql-client |
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| 22:32.33 | AngelGabriel | KingNerd is going somewhere very hot when he dies! lol |
| 22:32.39 | thingfish | hah. I've seen more out of john waters' movies. |
| 22:33.07 | shogunx | thingfish or a roger waters song, for that matter. |
| 22:33.12 | thingfish | hehe right |
| 22:33.46 | thingfish | anyway I though I had that sucker /ignored. |
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| 22:34.11 | freeone3000 | Hmm. Updating my xserver seems to have borked the X symlinks... |
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| 22:34.15 | Bazy | bbrazil safe_mode is Off, and mysql_connect rules are in that php.ini , I guess the php aplication could be the problem, on a FC5 server it work's ok... guess I'll have to check it out more... could it only work on php5 ? |
| 22:34.18 | KingNerd | AngelGabriel: Mere superstition |
| 22:34.24 | freeone3000 | Will I have to fully reinstall x, or what should I do? |
| 22:35.01 | bbrazil | Bazy: for php5 you'll need the mysql-php5 |
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| 22:35.47 | thingfish | man, I need to buy a power supply and a video card. why does this crap have to be so expensive. |
| 22:35.50 | KingNerd | AngelGabriel: Angels don't exist anymore than pegasus exists |
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| 22:36.06 | freeone3000 | thingfish: Because hardware requires skill, as opposed to software. |
| 22:36.09 | thingfish | I mean there's no way I'm buying a cheap power supply. |
| 22:36.16 | KingNerd | AngelGabriel: That "pegasus flies" is an absurd proposition |
| 22:36.27 | freeone3000 | KingNerd: Pegasus could exist. Flying is iffy. |
| 22:36.30 | thingfish | freeone3000: true. |
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| 22:37.10 | thingfish | KingNerd: your claim to know the ultimate nature of reality is as arrogant as the religious. |
| 22:37.17 | factor | lo freeone3k |
| 22:37.24 | shogunx | thingfish, why buy a power supply at all? get a solar panel and a car battery. |
| 22:37.29 | tim_flatus | freeone3000, are you missing more than just rgb.txt? |
| 22:37.29 | factor | di you add themodulepathto your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:37.38 | freeone3000 | tim_flatus: I'm missing my X simlink. |
| 22:37.42 | Irrumator | did anyone upgrade X today? |
| 22:37.46 | freeone3000 | tim_flatus: When I derefrence it with ls, there's NOTHING there. |
| 22:37.46 | thingfish | shogunx: hard to get hooked up to this motherboard, that's why. |
| 22:37.49 | factor | I did 2 days ago |
| 22:37.56 | tim_flatus | Irrumator, yes |
| 22:37.59 | factor | been there done that |
| 22:38.00 | tarzeau | !seen cahoot |
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| 22:38.01 | dpkg | cahoot <n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 57m 12s ago, saying: 'tarzeau: yeah I guess he wants it that way too ;)'. |
| 22:38.08 | Irrumator | It seems everything is botched again for me today |
| 22:38.09 | KingNerd | thingfish : the ultimate nature of reality is the sum total of all states of affairs |
| 22:38.12 | factor | works 85% ok |
| 22:38.19 | Irrumator | won't let me startx |
| 22:38.21 | freeone3000 | Yeah. The other 15% is evil. |
| 22:38.26 | shogunx | thingfish, soldering iron and heat shrink tubing? |
| 22:38.26 | Irrumator | too bad I was curious and restarted X :-) |
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| 22:38.32 | freeone3000 | Odd, that's exactly the same thing I did. |
| 22:38.32 | factor | one of my montiros I cant get to 1280x1024. other than that its good |
| 22:38.36 | thingfish | KingNerd: the ultimate nature of reality is unknown by humans. |
| 22:38.39 | freeone3000 | Except it was because of refresh probs. |
| 22:38.50 | freeone3000 | thingfish: Or are we the ultimate nature of reality? |
| 22:38.57 | thingfish | :/ |
| 22:38.59 | factor | I have not tried to get glx to work yet |
| 22:39.01 | factor | will tonight |
| 22:39.02 | Irrumator | freeone3000: Well, I upgraded half an hour ago to 7.0.11 - are we running the same versions? |
| 22:39.04 | freeone3000 | thingfish: You can't catagorically prove that anything besides yourself exists. |
| 22:39.07 | factor | need blender to work |
| 22:39.08 | tim_flatus | I don´t feel so bad now. |
| 22:39.09 | freeone3000 | Irrumator: I'm running unstable. |
| 22:39.14 | factor | me too |
| 22:39.33 | freeone3000 | GLX? Heh. If possible, I need that as well. |
| 22:39.34 | thingfish | freeone3000: the rhino that gores you when he charges you down will convince you of his reality. |
| 22:39.49 | tim_flatus | no I´m on etch - 6.9 |
| 22:39.52 | Irrumator | What version of x11-common do you have installed? |
| 22:39.55 | freeone3000 | thingfish: How do we know it's a rhino? |
| 22:40.11 | thingfish | freeone3000: you will not need to have to give it a name. |
| 22:40.14 | freeone3000 | Irrumator: I am using irssi. I have no X. I have no idea how to do thing that I would do graphically in console, like... switch windows. |
| 22:40.17 | oboy | hi |
| 22:40.31 | thingfish | I hate beginner philosophy games. |
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| 22:40.46 | Irrumator | Uhm. |
| 22:41.08 | Eulex | freeone3000, screen |
| 22:41.12 | Irrumator | Let me get this straight. |
| 22:41.15 | freeone3000 | Eulex: Hmm? |
| 22:41.16 | Irrumator | Are you running X or not? |
| 22:41.22 | freeone3000 | Irrumator: No. That's why I'm here. |
| 22:41.28 | freeone3000 | Irrumator: I installed it. Just tis not working. |
| 22:41.32 | Irrumator | Ah, so you're having problems too |
| 22:41.35 | Irrumator | Gotcha. |
| 22:41.52 | beered | How can I remove old kernel packages? |
| 22:41.57 | freeone3000 | beered: apt-get remove |
| 22:41.58 | Irrumator | Well, you can hit Alt-F# to switch to another virtual console. |
| 22:42.08 | freeone3000 | Irrumator: Sweet, thanks! |
| 22:42.33 | Irrumator | And do check 'screen' out. |
| 22:42.48 | KingNerd | thingfish: enough of your Kantian Noumenal tripe nonsense |
| 22:42.57 | thingfish | bah |
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| 22:43.27 | thingfish | novice |
| 22:43.42 | thingfish | you in college? had a philosophy course, have you? |
| 22:43.47 | freeone3000 | Apparently the 'newest' one. |
| 22:43.58 | freeone3000 | Whatever that is. |
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| 22:45.13 | freeone3000 | And it's really the newest, nothing to be updated... |
| 22:45.44 | factor | freepone3k:so the adding of the ModulePath line did not resolve the problem. |
| 22:45.53 | factor | freeone3k^ |
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| 22:46.18 | freeone3000 | factor: ModulePath? |
| 22:46.25 | KingNerd | Nerds need to either exterminate or rule over neolithic humans but we cannot live side by side with them nor be subjugated to their politics and religions |
| 22:46.30 | freeone3000 | factor: Ah, I knew I was supposed to change something... would you mind reposting that, please? |
| 22:46.39 | factor | what error do you get in the /var/log/Xorg.error bla bla what ever log? |
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| 22:47.09 | factor | ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" |
| 22:47.27 | factor | you need both the old one and the new one |
| 22:47.38 | factor | for the old nvidia driver to pick up |
| 22:47.54 | factor | they install in the old directory /usr/X11R6/lib/modules |
| 22:48.19 | Irrumator | well, my startx can't even start the server |
| 22:48.25 | factor | yup |
| 22:48.31 | tuvwx | dpkg's help about marillat's key is incomplete |
| 22:48.37 | factor | you have to manualy edit that line into your config |
| 22:48.42 | mne | hi guys. I've a dm-crypted partition with lvm2 ontop of it. With root on an encrypted lvm partition I need an initrd which I want to create with mkinitramfs. While it doesn't surprise me that there is no support for dm-crypt and /etc/crypttab, I was wondering if theres lvm support for mkinitramfs. I just don't want to reinvent the wheel .. |
| 22:48.48 | tuvwx | there is another command needed before the mentioned one |
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| 22:49.07 | freeone3000 | Hmm, there's no "ModulePath" line in there. |
| 22:49.31 | factor | needs to be |
| 22:49.44 | tim_flatus | My problems are comparatively minimal. I even have DRI working - glxgears gives me an FPS of around 800 |
| 22:49.47 | freeone3000 | factor: What section? |
| 22:49.55 | factor | Files |
| 22:50.14 | factor | Section 'Files" |
| 22:50.17 | factor | "" |
| 22:50.18 | freeone3000 | tim_flatus: ...I normally have been getting 3000+... |
| 22:50.56 | tim_flatus | freeone3000, I´m running a 500Mhz CPU :) |
| 22:51.03 | freeone3000 | tim_flatus: Ah, that twould explain it. :) |
| 22:51.09 | freeone3000 | Trying to start x... |
| 22:51.09 | Squall` | Okay, I just installed lilo, what happens to grub? I don't really know how this process works too well, but it seems like something has to be done to make lilo the boot manager instead of grub. |
| 22:51.12 | factor | make sure you have the old one ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" |
| 22:51.34 | factor | make sure you have the new one ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" |
| 22:51.43 | freeone3000 | "make sure /usr/bin/ is in your path, and make sure that you have an X server installed"... |
| 22:51.47 | thingfish | Squall`: I'm just curious - why did you install lilo, when you had grub? |
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| 22:52.04 | Squall` | I have a very, very bad and childish reason. |
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| 22:52.17 | thingfish | that would not be at all surprising. |
| 22:52.27 | Squall` | Which is... I'm used to lilo, and I'll be damned if I have to learn grub. |
| 22:52.30 | stew | Squall`: after you have configured /etc/lilo.conf, running "/sbin/lilo" will replace grub on the mbr, or read /usr/share/doc/lilo/README.Debian |
| 22:52.43 | thingfish | you must be older than 45, Squall`. |
| 22:52.44 | stew | thingfish: i just switched to lilo so i could put root on lvm |
| 22:52.49 | freeone3000 | factor: That's with both lines changed. |
| 22:52.51 | Squall` | Regardless of the advantages, I know lilo, and I don't need fancy pants GRUB. |
| 22:53.02 | Squall` | thingfish, Actually, I used slackware, and that's what it had. |
| 22:53.10 | freeone3000 | Squall`: Advantage #1, debian installer configures grub for you. |
| 22:53.16 | factor | freeone3000:did you add them? |
| 22:53.21 | freeone3000 | factor: Yes. |
| 22:53.22 | thingfish | stew: lilo can do that? neat. |
| 22:53.26 | freeone3000 | factor: To the files section, at the end. |
| 22:53.27 | mngrif | Squall`, the way i look at it is, i simply don't see the boot prompt often enough to make a big deal out of grub vs. lilo :P |
| 22:53.30 | factor | did you restart X |
| 22:53.35 | factor | k |
| 22:53.36 | stew | thingfish: yeah |
| 22:53.39 | freeone3000 | factor: I tried to start it... |
| 22:53.42 | freeone3000 | factor: Still nothing. |
| 22:53.44 | factor | and... |
| 22:53.49 | JoshH | choosing a bootloader, 99 percent of the time, is not major decision |
| 22:53.51 | thingfish | and they say Debian is not exciting... |
| 22:53.52 | factor | readthe /var/log/Xorg now |
| 22:53.54 | freeone3000 | "Make sure /usr/bin is in your path..." |
| 22:54.00 | Squall` | Fine, I'll use grub... geez |
| 22:54.10 | freeone3000 | and that X is a program or a link to the right type of server for your display. |
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| 22:54.40 | factor | freeone you did have a previous xorg.conf right? |
| 22:54.45 | freeone3000 | factor: Yes. |
| 22:54.48 | factor | k |
| 22:54.51 | tim_flatus | Squall, I was resistant for similar reasons. Really GRUB is so much less work. |
| 22:54.58 | factor | read andfindtheerror in thelog file. <EE> |
| 22:55.32 | RobHu | Has anyone any idea how to get Etch installed on the Tyan K8SRE? It uses the Broadcom 5704 network chip... I found someone on the debian mailing lists that had a similar problem (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00358.html) but I can't see that he found a solution. |
| 22:55.34 | freeone3000 | factor: No error. That's command-line output. |
| 22:55.37 | tim_flatus | Squall`, the only problem now is that I can install a new kernel without realising I´ve done it :/ |
| 22:55.46 | freeone3000 | factor: I would copy-paste it for you, but... |
| 22:55.57 | factor | freeone3k :did you read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 22:55.58 | stew | RobHu: did you try the sarge installer with 2.6.15? |
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| 22:56.06 | freeone3000 | factor: I grep'd it for EE. |
| 22:56.09 | RobHu | Stew: That didnt work |
| 22:56.12 | thingfish | besides it's not like grub is rocket science. |
| 22:56.14 | RobHu | stew: same problem |
| 22:56.16 | factor | read it too |
| 22:56.20 | factor | its not too long |
| 22:56.33 | thingfish | tsk |
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| 22:57.03 | phretor | hi ther |
| 22:57.17 | thingfish | we have a !nickometer, we need a !quitmessage. |
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| 22:57.32 | phretor | I can't hear any sound while playing DVDs with totem-xine on Gnome - I'm on testing. |
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| 22:57.39 | phretor | Any suggestion? |
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| 22:58.08 | streuner | phretor: does it work in xine? |
| 22:58.09 | Bazy | bbrazil after you install php4-mysql, and if you don't have mysql running, you need to dpkg-reconfigure libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and dpkg-reconfigure php4-mysql to get it working :-) found it, it works fine now |
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| 22:58.13 | freeone3000 | factor: Okay... I did. It appears to have loaded my modules perfectly, if verbosely, and then proceed to remove an invalid font, listing the resources avalible the entire time. |
| 22:58.24 | factor | k |
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| 22:58.35 | signature16 | why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it? |
| 22:58.37 | freeone3000 | factor: Which leads me to believe that it's not a log of the last time I ran 'startx'. |
| 22:58.49 | factor | when is it dated. |
| 22:59.05 | freeone3000 | factor: 16 Mar 2006. |
| 22:59.06 | factor | ahhI heard it also does not read xession now either |
| 22:59.09 | phretor | streuner: didn't try yet |
| 22:59.20 | freeone3000 | factor: (I tend to leave my computer on...) |
| 22:59.26 | factor | xSession file even |
| 22:59.38 | factor | try to start x directly |
| 22:59.41 | factor | X |
| 22:59.59 | factor | X -conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:00.14 | streuner | phretor: what version of debian? did you check xine website (FAQ)? |
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| 23:00.36 | phretor | streuner: I'm on 3.1 testing/unstable |
| 23:00.55 | streuner | phretor: 3.1 is stable/sarge |
| 23:00.56 | freeone3000 | 'bash: X - command not found.' |
| 23:01.10 | factor | X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:01.11 | factor | sorry |
| 23:01.13 | RobHu | I guess I'm basically screwed then - its impossible to install Debian on this box |
| 23:01.28 | factor | do you have X in /usr/X11R6? |
| 23:01.30 | factor | bin |
| 23:01.41 | freeone3000 | factor: Yes. |
| 23:01.54 | factor | /usr/X11R6/binX -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:01.57 | factor | /usr/X11R6/bin/X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:02.12 | phretor | streuner: the bad thing is that I cannot remove totem-xine :-\ I'd prefer other players |
| 23:02.18 | freeone3000 | -bash: /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
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| 23:02.38 | freeone3000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.21 | tim_flatus | phretor, you can install others. |
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| 23:03.45 | phretor | tim_flatus: of course, but I'd prefer not to have totem |
| 23:03.46 | factor | freeone3k:ls -la /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
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| 23:04.09 | freeone3000 | ../../bin/X |
| 23:04.10 | streuner | phretor: so you can't install xine-ui ? |
| 23:04.13 | factor | freeone3k:where does it point to |
| 23:04.17 | factor | yeah |
| 23:04.19 | kotnik | hello! does anyone know why debian for sparc won't boot afe |
| 23:04.19 | factor | mine too |
| 23:04.26 | tim_flatus | phretor, maybe you need to be in the audio group or something similar? |
| 23:04.31 | factor | is it in /usr/bin |
| 23:04.34 | freeone3000 | /usr/bin/X also refrences ../../X. |
| 23:04.37 | sparr | anyone here who doesnt have gimp installed, would you be willing to install it and take a screenshot of the default configuration for me? |
| 23:04.44 | freeone3000 | ../../bin/X, rather. |
| 23:04.52 | factor | ls -la /usr/bin/X |
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| 23:05.04 | freeone3000 | And no, there is no /bin/X. |
| 23:05.09 | factor | ahh |
| 23:05.18 | factor | it is not installed |
| 23:05.31 | freeone3000 | factor: The approiate packages are. How should I install it? |
| 23:05.35 | factor | try an apt-get upgrade |
| 23:05.36 | streuner | phretor: s/install/use/ of course :-) |
| 23:05.48 | factor | apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 23:05.50 | neoxan | mhh, is there no "nvidia-glx" package in testing repos? |
| 23:05.55 | neoxan | :s |
| 23:06.15 | neoxan | or am i just too stupid? :) |
| 23:06.49 | freeone3000 | factor: No change. |
| 23:06.50 | phretor | tim_flatus: lemme try this |
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| 23:07.13 | signature16 | why does my proftpd say unable to determine ip address of server1.pacificx.net when i try to start it? |
| 23:07.17 | freeone3000 | factor: At least I *think* I have everything... |
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| 23:07.24 | factor | right |
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| 23:07.37 | factor | you may have to manualy go into the /var/apt/cache/ |
| 23:07.51 | aFlag | argh, I can't figure out how to fix my error |
| 23:07.51 | factor | andfind the main x deb package andmanually run dpkg-i |
| 23:07.54 | tim_flatus | neoxan, the nvidia modules can´t be distributed with Debian AFAIU |
| 23:08.00 | aFlag | www.dcc.ufmg.br/~rafaelc/error.png |
| 23:08.02 | freeone3000 | '/var/apt/cache' - no such file or directory. |
| 23:08.18 | factor | /var/cache/apt |
| 23:08.50 | freeone3000 | factor: Two bin files, two directories. Which one? |
| 23:09.08 | factor | archives |
| 23:09.30 | streuner | phretor: there are mplayer and vlc too |
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| 23:09.36 | phretor | tim_flatus: no, it doesn't work - I also tried to play an mp3 with Rhythmbox: I heard no sound. The last try was to cat mysound.wav > /dev/dsp: I get a "device or resource busy" error |
| 23:09.43 | freeone3000 | factor: A *lot* of .debs... |
| 23:09.48 | factor | yup |
| 23:09.59 | phretor | streuner: it seems that someone is holding /dev/dsp - I think it's esd |
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| 23:10.01 | factor | dontknow what the main xorg 7 is I had to delete mine |
| 23:10.16 | streuner | phretor: ok, disable esd then |
| 23:10.31 | phretor | streuner: isn't esd used by gnome? |
| 23:10.31 | jw2328 | freeone3000: check your version of x11-common |
| 23:10.39 | streuner | phretor: yep |
| 23:10.52 | phretor | shouln't Totem use esd? I can't stop esd everytime I need to play a sound! |
| 23:11.12 | streuner | phretor: you just disable esd in gnome-control-center |
| 23:11.16 | tim_flatus | phretor, try aplay instead. Something may be blocking your soundcard. |
| 23:11.21 | Azar | the bloater gnome gets the harder |
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| 23:11.42 | tam | anyone know of any good backup tape tutorials/how-tos for unix in general? |
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| 23:11.45 | freeone3000 | jw2328: It's current... |
| 23:11.47 | streuner | !esd |
| 23:11.47 | dpkg | somebody said esd was the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 23:11.52 | phretor | streuner: it's getting boring to me - can't they simply share the /dev/dsp? |
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| 23:12.15 | jw2328 | freeone3000: what do you mean by current? dpkg -l x11-common |
| 23:12.28 | freeone3000 | 7.0.11 |
| 23:12.30 | streuner | phretor: do you know what a sound daemon is good for? |
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| 23:12.56 | phretor | streuner: no |
| 23:13.02 | phretor | streuner: system sounds? :-) |
| 23:13.02 | streuner | phretor: it makes noises if you close the window of your browser or you switch in an app.... |
| 23:13.05 | factor | freeone3k:rerun the dpkg -i x-common |
| 23:13.16 | tim_flatus | phretor, no, only one app can use /dev/dsp unless you use jackd. Well, actually there´s more to it than that. |
| 23:13.25 | streuner | phretor: if you run OSS or ALSA, that's enough |
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| 23:14.12 | tim_flatus | phretor, streuner is right. esd and artsd are for bells and whistles. They have little to do with making useful sounds. |
| 23:14.15 | Kylixen | Is it just me, or is mplayer not available on apt? |
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| 23:14.27 | dondelelcaro | !tell Kylixen -about mplayer |
| 23:14.34 | freeone3000 | Kylixen: It is, just on either non-free or cotrib |
| 23:14.38 | tim_flatus | I am very biased aginst esd & artsd ... |
| 23:15.10 | streuner | freeone3000: mplayer is not in debian, because of lizense issues |
| 23:15.13 | jw2328 | freeone3000: dpkg -l xserver-xorg; dpkg -L x11-common | grep X |
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| 23:15.40 | factor | vlc rocks |
| 23:15.42 | freeone3000 | streuner: ...I have it... |
| 23:16.00 | streuner | !info mplayer |
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| 23:16.10 | factor | freeone3000:did you rerun the deb package for x? |
| 23:16.12 | xuser | Hi |
| 23:16.17 | RobHu | I've seen a post from 2004 where it suggests using pci=noacpi to fix something, would the modern testing equivalent be acpi=off ? |
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| 23:16.38 | freeone3000 | 7.0.11, and it's there, yes... |
| 23:16.39 | Erpo | How do I set up my system so that all processes have a specific environment variable set at startup? I want every process to have G_SLICE=always-malloc set automatically. |
| 23:16.49 | xuser | is a app that can do batterie monitoring for laptops through cli? |
| 23:16.54 | streuner | freeone3000: i have it too ;-) |
| 23:16.56 | xuser | is there. |
| 23:17.02 | freeone3000 | streuner: Is yours working? |
| 23:17.16 | Erpo | xuser: Kismet will tell you how charged your battery is, and it uses the cli. |
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| 23:17.25 | streuner | freeone3000: mplayer? no idea, i use in most case xine |
| 23:17.30 | factor | freeone3k:you sait X was now in /usr/bin/X? |
| 23:17.32 | jw2328 | freeone3000: aptitude reinstall x11-common |
| 23:17.35 | xuser | Erpo: thanks. |
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| 23:18.09 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Thanks! it works now... |
| 23:18.18 | factor | cool |
| 23:18.22 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Even though, it uses TWM. Not kde. It should use something nice-looking. |
| 23:18.31 | pab | hi all |
| 23:18.52 | tim_flatus | freeone3000, Yay! |
| 23:19.19 | jw2328 | freeone3000: How do you normally get in to X? A dm of startx? |
| 23:19.32 | freeone3000 | jw2328: No... just startx. |
| 23:19.37 | jw2328 | freeone3000: ^dm or startx |
| 23:19.42 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Yes. |
| 23:20.08 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Lemme guess, there's an easier way, or there's .xinitrc that actually helps me set the window manager... |
| 23:20.56 | Eulex | xuser, yes, start up an xterm and do acpi -V |
| 23:22.22 | tim_flatus | jw2328, factor, are you seeing a lot of problems with x11-common recently? |
| 23:22.33 | factor | yup |
| 23:22.40 | factor | man-o-errors |
| 23:22.46 | tim_flatus | factor, ah. |
| 23:22.47 | factor | many-o-errors |
| 23:22.48 | jw2328 | freeone3000: I use a DM so I'm not too sure how it works, but yes there will be a file somewhere that tells it which wm to run. Could well be ~/.xinitrc |
| 23:22.55 | freeone3000 | tim_flatus: I've seen one. Apparently it doesn't remember to remove symlinks, but DOES remember to remove the binary it refrnces. |
| 23:22.59 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Cept. It isn't. |
| 23:23.03 | factor | I cant run some of my progs in X as well. |
| 23:23.12 | factor | not counting blender which needs glx |
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| 23:23.24 | freeone3000 | There's no glx!? |
| 23:23.34 | factor | I just have not worked with it yet |
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| 23:23.57 | factor | working and washappy to just get it back to working till the weekend |
| 23:24.00 | factor | :D |
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| 23:24.13 | freeone3000 | This is the weekend, is it not? |
| 23:24.21 | factor | not for me yet |
| 23:24.24 | jw2328 | freeone3000: man startx |
| 23:24.26 | factor | almost their |
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| 23:24.29 | factor | there even |
| 23:24.35 | will_shinigami | pessoal ñ consigo conectar speedy no red hat9 minha placa de rede ta ativa e tudo mas quando crio uma conta pppoe ela ñ ativa nem com macumba alguem pode me ajudar? |
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| 23:24.56 | jw2328 | factor: which ones? |
| 23:25.00 | mykhi | hi, do you know what could happen, that sometimes my players (tv/files) are just showing blue screen insted of movie? ;/ need to reboot my debian always :( |
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| 23:25.05 | freeone3000 | What's the letter code for portugese? |
| 23:25.08 | aurelien_ | hello |
| 23:25.24 | comsa | , |
| 23:25.29 | factor | kimagemapeditor |
| 23:25.30 | aurelien_ | is there someone who have a link for "mkcdrec" testing for debian? |
| 23:25.46 | freeone3000 | !portugese |
| 23:25.46 | dpkg | Por favor, fale em ingles quando estiver no #Debian, assim todos poderão entender. Se você quiser usar um outro idioma, entre em #debian-rs. Para ser ajudado em portugues, use o canal #Debian-BR |
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| 23:27.57 | pitbullthe1st | how do i reg in these channels???? |
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| 23:28.05 | freeone3000 | reg? |
| 23:28.06 | dondelelcaro | pitbullthe1st: /msg nickserv help register |
| 23:28.20 | DarkCow | I've done an apt-get dist-upgrade, but I've run into a dependency problem |
| 23:28.27 | aurelien_ | no one for MKCDREC ? |
| 23:28.42 | DarkCow | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 23:28.42 | DarkCow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:29.01 | jw2328 | freeone3000: what does your ~/.xinitrc contain? |
| 23:29.23 | freeone3000 | jw2328: No such file or directory. |
| 23:29.25 | DarkCow | so xfree86-common requires x11-common, but x11-common won't install because it conflicts with xfree86-common |
| 23:29.30 | tim_flatus | DarkCow, yes, we´ve been discussing related issues all night. |
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| 23:29.44 | Azar | DarkCow: if you try to install by hand or overwrite stuff, you will have to deal with dependencies on your own |
| 23:29.50 | tim_flatus | DarkCow, I forced it. |
| 23:29.57 | xuser | oi |
| 23:29.57 | DarkCow | how do I do that? |
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| 23:30.09 | DarkCow | I don't actually want X, anyway |
| 23:30.53 | jw2328 | freeone3000: What's in /usr/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc? |
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| 23:31.23 | tim_flatus | DarkCow, you can use the --force-overwrite option for dpkg |
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| 23:31.30 | freeone3000 | jw2328: Twm... thanks. |
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| 23:31.46 | jw2328 | freeone3000: Also update-alternatives --config x-session-manager might be a cleaner way to do it |
| 23:32.31 | freeone3000 | There's only one program which provides it. |
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| 23:32.53 | freeone3000 | It doesn't classify twm as a x window manager, it seems... (along with everyone else) |
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| 23:33.06 | ojai | I've always wondered, when you look at a package's debian/changelog, there is sometimes a preceeding "1:" before the version number. what's that all about? |
| 23:33.44 | freeone3000 | So, I'll just change it to startkde |
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| 23:33.47 | tim_flatus | DarkCow, it? a bad workaround but: dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb |
| 23:33.49 | malexio | hi all |
| 23:34.03 | maxb | ojai: It's an 'epoch' |
| 23:34.14 | ojai | maxb: what's that? |
| 23:34.37 | maxb | An epoch is used when version numbers wouldn't compare the right way without it. |
| 23:34.52 | maxb | Usually because the upstream package has changed its numbering scheme |
| 23:34.53 | DarkCow | tim_flatus, that worked great. Thanks |
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| 23:35.05 | DarkCow | I'd probably be mroe worried if I actually needed X |
| 23:35.16 | DarkCow | is there a way to do a "recursive" remove? |
| 23:35.19 | jayeola | chaps, anyone used rpmstrap? http://hackers.progeny.com/~sam/rpmstrap/ |
| 23:35.28 | jayeola | rm -R |
| 23:35.31 | DarkCow | because a lot of things depend on X, and I probably don't want them |
| 23:35.45 | tim_flatus | DarkCow, welcome. Be aware that parts of X seem to be broken. You probably won´t care too much I suppose. |
| 23:35.45 | DarkCow | jayeola, I meant with apt |
| 23:36.06 | jayeola | -ahem-, i knew that (lies) |
| 23:36.14 | DarkCow | it was only Xsession and Xsession.option that were conflicting |
| 23:36.18 | DarkCow | heh |
| 23:36.24 | ojai | maxb: ah, I see |
| 23:36.38 | ojai | thanks! |
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| 23:37.01 | pitbullthe1st | register |
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| 23:40.21 | pab | apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove x-window-system x-window-system-core? Is this tonight's topic? |
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| 23:42.13 | Azar | pab want to upgrade from sarge up ? |
| 23:42.41 | pab | Azar: I have sid 64 |
| 23:42.50 | Azar | wow, :) |
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| 23:43.42 | jw2328 | pab: You should be able to hang on to them. What's the conflict that will throw them out? |
| 23:44.15 | pab | jw2328: that's what I'm trying to figure...how do I go about it? |
| 23:44.28 | neoxan | where to get things like "unrar" for debian? |
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| 23:46.11 | chealer | neoxan: in non-free |
| 23:46.21 | neoxan | ok, thanks |
| 23:46.22 | neoxan | :) |
| 23:46.32 | pab | some the new packages it wants to install are x11proto stuff...what are they? |
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| 23:50.42 | El_Muerte | hi |
| 23:50.44 | simonrvn | pab: apt-cache show <package name> |
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| 23:51.07 | El_Muerte | someone may give an information about amd 64 repositories? |
| 23:51.18 | kojiro | Could someone please tell me what comes between $debian_mirror and /powermac/images-1.44/rescue.bin ? I'm having trouble finding the rescue.bin file I'm seeking. |
| 23:51.26 | Kylixen | exit |
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| 23:52.06 | El_Muerte | I'm looking for an amd 64 mirror to put in my sources.list, but i have a i386 installation, may i use the two repositories? |
| 23:52.44 | El_Muerte | the amd 64 verision that i have downloaded didnt have kde and a lot of aplications |
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| 23:52.57 | jw2328 | try using aptitude instead of plain apt, it describes the conflict that is causing it to make that decision |
| 23:53.05 | jw2328 | pab: ^ |
| 23:53.06 | simonrvn | kojiro: that's old. use the http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/2005-06-15/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ or something similar. not too recent, root.img or boot.img is too big |
| 23:53.15 | SeFoKumA | hi, what version of gnome use sid? |
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| 23:53.26 | simonrvn | !info gnome |
| 23:53.34 | pab | simonrvn: duh...thank man. I guess I'll keep to just upgrade till I figure the conflict |
| 23:53.37 | SeFoKumA | 2.12.3'? |
| 23:53.45 | kojiro | simonrvn: I'm afraid it won't work on this archaic pmac 8500... |
| 23:53.52 | kojiro | but I'll give it a go |
| 23:54.00 | simonrvn | kojiro: yes it will. i just booted mine off that |
| 23:54.12 | SeFoKumA | buah |
| 23:54.19 | simonrvn | !info gnome-panel |
| 23:54.27 | SeFoKumA | omg |
| 23:54.33 | simonrvn | wtf is the bot? |
| 23:54.35 | SeFoKumA | i dont have install debian |
| 23:54.40 | simonrvn | dpkg: test |
| 23:54.41 | dpkg | No, simonrvn, you're not online any more. |
| 23:54.47 | kojiro | simonrvn: heh. oldest one is 8/18/05 :-) |
| 23:54.47 | SeFoKumA | on package page i can see |
| 23:54.49 | simonrvn | dpkg: wake up! |
| 23:54.49 | dpkg | simonrvn: I'm already awake! :) |
| 23:54.52 | SeFoKumA | gnome 2.12.3 |
| 23:54.58 | SeFoKumA | with 2.14 packages |
| 23:55.01 | pab | jw2328: cool.....takin' a look now |
| 23:55.04 | SeFoKumA | what is this |
| 23:55.06 | simonrvn | SeFoKumA: there's bits of 2.14 in already |
| 23:55.13 | SeFoKumA | ok |
| 23:55.21 | SeFoKumA | too easy |
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| 23:56.02 | odla | 2.14 in where? |
| 23:56.37 | simonrvn | sid |
| 23:57.09 | odla | there looks like there are bits in testing too? |
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| 23:57.52 | simonrvn | *maybe*. |
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| 23:58.21 | freeone3000 | ..I need my glx... |
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