| 00:00.09 | tyranix | evince's PDF rendering is based on xpdf. And evince has a bunch of GNOME dependencies... |
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| 00:01.21 | Azar | my /var/log auth.logs are getting obscenely filled with attempts to break in messages, do I really need to keep them? |
| 00:01.50 | Azar | its like floding grafitti |
| 00:01.58 | Bac9 | can someone help me with X11? The computer was restarted and now X doesn't start up "undefined symbol: MGAGetBOARDHANDLESize" |
| 00:02.33 | Bac9 | I am running standard xorg mga drivers |
| 00:02.50 | Azar | Bac9 what linux distro are you using? |
| 00:02.56 | bbrazil | Azar: if you get rid of them, how will you know there has been a breakin? |
| 00:02.57 | Bac9 | Azar: debian |
| 00:02.58 | SirGeorge | Azar, better do something against the breakins. otherwise you need logrotate keep less files |
| 00:03.19 | Azar | bbrazil: I mean those I already viewed |
| 00:03.34 | bbrazil | Azar: tweak logrotate |
| 00:03.41 | Azar | there are tons of trivial illegal user xxxxx and such |
| 00:04.07 | bbrazil | Azar: yeah, that happens. I rotate daily and keep for 28 days (data retention policy) |
| 00:04.09 | Shadowcat | Azar: so block the hosts that are trying to break in |
| 00:04.12 | Azar | hmmm what is logrotate? |
| 00:04.32 | bbrazil | Azar: its automatically setup for you, it should be keeping 6 weeks worth of logs iirc |
| 00:04.39 | Azar | Shadowcat: they are only zombie, most of them from china.. |
| 00:04.53 | Azar | bbrazil: ah cool because they get huge |
| 00:04.56 | SirGeorge | Shadowcat, http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/index.html does that automagically |
| 00:05.13 | bbrazil | Azar: you should have a auth.log.1, 2.gz etc. |
| 00:05.19 | Azar | bbrazil: yes |
| 00:05.31 | Azar | I thought they gonna add up and never go away |
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| 00:05.45 | bbrazil | Azar: then its working - looks like 4 weeks worth in fact |
| 00:05.47 | Red_Cloud | I have been having a problem with my package for transfig for a while. It is not fully installed. I am not able to get it uninstalled so that I may re-install it. Any suggestions? My distro is Debian sarge. |
| 00:05.53 | Azar | man, this is so annoying, and fail2ban does not work ok in Sarge |
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| 00:06.05 | KerPlunk | What is a good cli music player that can player ogg files? and maybe mp3 |
| 00:06.12 | bbrazil | Azar: unless you're low on diskspace, I wouldn't worry about log sizes |
| 00:06.12 | KerPlunk | Something like irssi, except for music and not irc |
| 00:06.14 | Azar | KerPlunk: xmms |
| 00:06.14 | tyranix | KerPlunk: mocp! |
| 00:06.21 | KerPlunk | thanks tyranix |
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| 00:06.27 | Coweater | mplayer |
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| 00:06.33 | tyranix | KerPlunk: It's a full replacement for xmms. :) I switched and never looked back. |
| 00:06.41 | Azar | bbrazil: ah no... I have 100GB and I only maybe use 20GB |
| 00:07.03 | KerPlunk | tyranix: mocp shows nothing from apt-cache search mocp |
| 00:07.11 | tyranix | KerPlunk: It supports server mode too so you can just hit 'q' and it background itself. You can kill X etc and it will still play (you can of course still control it through the socket). |
| 00:07.14 | bbrazil | Azar: its not really a problem then - unless you're manually reading the logs |
| 00:07.16 | tyranix | KerPlunk: Oh sorry, it's called 'moc' |
| 00:07.26 | Azar | bbrazil: yeah I manually read them sigh |
| 00:07.30 | tyranix | KerPlunk: It's renamed to 'mocp' in debian because there's a Qt program called 'moc' already. |
| 00:07.39 | Bac9 | can someone help me with X11? The computer was restarted and now X doesn't start up "undefined symbol: MGAGetBOARDHANDLESize". I am running standard xorg drivers on etch |
| 00:07.49 | bbrazil | Azar: I have a script that'll process them and look for breakins if you're interested |
| 00:07.52 | d03boy | anything new in the debian world the past few months? |
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| 00:08.03 | Azar | bbrazil: sure , thanks :) |
| 00:08.37 | bbrazil | Azar: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/code/brmon/ <-- ssh_brute_finder you'll have to alter ssh so it's loslevel is verbose |
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| 00:08.52 | dannythm | hello |
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| 00:09.13 | tyranix | Azar: I would enable public keys only, disable logins from IPs you're not expecting (using IPtables), and forget about the connect attempts. Does it really matter when you've shut them out with the firewall? |
| 00:09.16 | bbrazil | Azar: that works on an entire log file |
| 00:09.22 | SirGeorge | Azar, http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/index.html does something similar (no offense, bbrazil) |
| 00:09.33 | dannythm | today I was using xsane ith my HP 5300c scanner and it was just woking fine, when, suddenly, it stoped working right |
| 00:09.52 | dannythm | when I try to scan it scans... nothing, the scanners lamp dosen't move |
| 00:10.00 | Azar | hey thanks I will try them both, however, I wonder if I really need ssh altogether, I am tempted to remove it |
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| 00:10.06 | dannythm | and I touched nothing or modified anything |
| 00:10.08 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: mine is only detection, and I have issues with things like denyhosts as they can be used for DOS attacks |
| 00:10.26 | SirGeorge | bbrazil, ok, thats right |
| 00:10.28 | KerPlunk | If I have a huge list(300 lines) of links to ogg files on the web, ie http://google.com/file.ogg, and each link is on a seperate line..how can I wget all those links if they are in a text file all on seperate liens? cat list|xargs wget or something...is that right? |
| 00:10.54 | Azar | the only good thing is I can see immediately when someone attempts to connect or scans but I cannot do nothing about but only unplug the connection |
| 00:10.55 | bbrazil | Azar: that's probably the best solution, altough public-key only appears to be safe at the moment |
| 00:10.59 | dannythm | can anyone help me solve this problem? |
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| 00:11.11 | dannythm | in windows the scaner woks right |
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| 00:11.24 | md-zzz | night and thanks |
| 00:11.27 | dutchfish | can anyone point me to a tool for graphical configuration of lvm2 via ssh -X adress -l root connection? Something i like a have seen on RHEL 4 to configure my vault? |
| 00:11.43 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: there's also the issue that denyhosts doesn't support solaris+ipf ;) |
| 00:11.47 | SirGeorge | KerPlunk, wget -i list does the same |
| 00:11.52 | yassine | how can i mount /dev/sdb1 with write permission ? |
| 00:11.56 | KerPlunk | thanks SirGeorge good to know |
| 00:12.05 | KerPlunk | yassine: What file system is on /dev/sdb1? |
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| 00:12.20 | yassine | KerPlunk, SFS |
| 00:12.28 | SirGeorge | bbrazil, you can't have everything (: |
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| 00:12.49 | KerPlunk | !tell SirGeorge about vfatrw |
| 00:12.51 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: I can try though |
| 00:12.56 | KerPlunk | SirGeorge: I guess like that, but instead of vfat sfs? |
| 00:13.08 | Azar | hmm whatever is gnupg? we got upgrades for it today |
| 00:13.10 | sm | hi all, how do I force a downgrade of certain packages after removing unstable from sources.list ? |
| 00:13.20 | sm | I had upgraded them to the unstable versions |
| 00:13.25 | bbrazil | Azar: open source PGP |
| 00:13.34 | Azar | ah :) thanks |
| 00:13.43 | dannythm | and purging sane and xsane and reinstallign them don't solve the problem |
| 00:13.57 | yassine | KerPlunk, any idea ? |
| 00:14.03 | bbrazil | dannythm: do you have whatever modules loaded? have you checked dmesg? |
| 00:14.49 | thingfish | !downgrade |
| 00:14.49 | dpkg | i heard downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 00:14.50 | dutchfish | anyone know of a grahpical front for lvm2 in Debian? |
| 00:14.50 | dannythm | bbrazil: I think yes, because it was working fine until, suddenly, stopped working right with no reason at all... |
| 00:14.54 | Azar | .. to sum it up: "beware of what you wish... you might get it" |
| 00:16.00 | yassine | KerPlunk, i made a mistake ist no more SFS but its : /dev/sdb1 63 8413183 4206560+ 83 Linux |
| 00:16.00 | dannythm | bbrazil: cold it be an USB port prolem? |
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| 00:16.11 | bbrazil | dannythm: lsusb - does it show the device? |
| 00:16.51 | Bac9 | can someone help me with X11? The computer was restarted and now X doesn't start up "undefined symbol: MGAGetBOARDHANDLESize". I am running standard xorg drivers on etch |
| 00:17.00 | sm | thx |
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| 00:17.26 | dannythm | bbrazil: yes, well i changed the port the scaner was conected and it did the same, so is no USB problem... |
| 00:17.33 | dutchfish | Bac9, dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 |
| 00:17.45 | bbrazil | dannythm: does it show in lsusb? |
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| 00:17.54 | dannythm | bbrazil: yes |
| 00:17.56 | SirGeorge | KerPlunk, don't know 'bout SFS |
| 00:18.01 | Azar | Bac9: just not to let you alone.... I am not running xorg or etch, going good with sarge/xfree.. so dunno what is going with your system |
| 00:18.15 | Bac9 | dutchfish: reconfigure what? I've been running the same config files since X11 |
| 00:18.42 | bbrazil | dannythm: okay, when you plug it in does dmesg indicate that its picked up by some driver? |
| 00:18.47 | SirGeorge | KerPlunk, Self-Certifying File System, some kind of secure NFS |
| 00:18.48 | Azar | Bac9: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and hope |
| 00:18.53 | stumbly | sm, you can explicity re-install the .deb files that you want using dpkg -i |
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| 00:19.33 | sm | stumbly: thx, that's looking like my only option |
| 00:19.39 | tyranix | Bac9: Umm tried googling? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/01/msg03494.html |
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| 00:20.24 | Azar | if I would have problems with xorg and not know what to do, I would go back to xfree86 in a blink |
| 00:20.25 | SirGeorge | yassine, SFS is as network filesystem, it can't be the fs of /dev/sdb1 |
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| 00:20.43 | Red_Cloud | How does a person uninstall a package that is not fully installed? |
| 00:21.03 | Peterken | How can i set up pgsql to only let the owner access the database? |
| 00:21.07 | SirGeorge | Red_Cloud, --purge ? |
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| 00:21.28 | SirGeorge | Red_Cloud, --force-all (possibly) ? |
| 00:21.30 | dutchfish | Red_Cloud, dpkg --purge package |
| 00:21.45 | dannythm | bbrazil: a USB port gives me a message: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 |
| 00:21.45 | dannythm | usb 1-1: control timeout on ep0in |
| 00:22.08 | yassine | SirGeorge, it was on it now i tried to delete the partition (the whole disk) and create a new partition primary and i have it now as a linux FS i can mount it and i can see all the data inside but since i dont want that data anymore i want to format it any idea ? |
| 00:22.20 | Red_Cloud | dutchfish, will try it |
| 00:22.23 | devazion | How can I get automatic mount of usb mass storage devices? |
| 00:22.38 | resiak | devazion: gnome-volume-manager |
| 00:22.44 | stumbly | has anyone else had trouble with a conflict between nvidia-glx and x-window-system-core in testing? |
| 00:22.47 | bbrazil | dannythm: timeout sounds bad, my knowledge of usb isn't too great, so I'm going out on a limb from here on in |
| 00:22.48 | dutchfish | devazion, edit fstab with automunt option? |
| 00:22.52 | devazion | resiak: Thanks! |
| 00:23.14 | bbrazil | dannythm: lsmod | grep usb - anything other than usbcore? |
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| 00:23.18 | devazion | dutchfish: Don't I have to specify what device it is in /dev/ then? |
| 00:23.20 | tyranix | Azar: Xorg is not the problem. The proprietary Matrox module is the problem ... |
| 00:23.35 | dannythm | bbrazil: well' I just proved the scanner in 4 USB ports, and it worked bad in the fourth, I don't think is a port problem |
| 00:23.38 | Azar | tyranix: :) ah makes sense |
| 00:23.40 | KerPlunk | tyranix: awesome find...mocp is great for playing music. |
| 00:23.48 | dutchfish | devazion, of coarse ... read man page |
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| 00:23.55 | SirGeorge | yassine, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1. Overwrites partition sda1, sda would do the whole disk. But be careful at typing! Tahts extremely dangerous |
| 00:24.09 | bbrazil | dannythm: I'm currently working on the assumption that you're missing a module, did this stop workign after a reboot? |
| 00:24.30 | tyranix | KerPlunk: Yeah :) If you like the console a lot but find you need X, I suggest trying ion3. I really like it. I use to use WindowMaker and I feel silly sticking with WM for so long. |
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| 00:24.37 | yassine | SirGeorge, thanks but do i need to mount it first ? |
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| 00:24.53 | dutchfish | devazion, also consider hotplug: http://linkstationwiki.org/Articles/DebianUSBDevices |
| 00:25.08 | Red_Cloud | dutchfish, here is the result: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: transfig |
| 00:25.15 | Azar | Bac9: you might then want to know, that hardware manufacturers like ATI, Matrox, etc etc, are reluctant to share their drivers code to the linux community, so therefore is hard to get a good setting of your video drivers |
| 00:25.25 | SirGeorge | yassine, no, must'nt be mounted. but please mix o an i or another disk name! and be sure it is the right one thrice ;) |
| 00:25.37 | dutchfish | Red_Cloud, ok a forced reinstall as a lost resort then |
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| 00:25.49 | devazion | dutchfish: Ah, excellent! Thanks! |
| 00:25.50 | SirGeorge | yassine, _DONT_ mix, i mean |
| 00:26.00 | dannythm | bbrazil: nope, I draw an image, scanned it well, continue listening to music, chatting etc... drawied another pic, tryed to scan it in the same conditions as before and then, just, not worked well |
| 00:26.02 | yassine | ok |
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| 00:26.21 | bbrazil | dannythm: anything interesting in the logs between the scannings? |
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| 00:26.38 | dannythm | bbrazil: noting |
| 00:26.53 | bbrazil | dannythm: you're tried cycling the scanner? |
| 00:27.11 | dannythm | bbrazil: cycling? |
| 00:27.14 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | anybody knows if the following exists : an ftp proxy that supports auth tls so i can login from every client and my server makes the secure connection |
| 00:27.22 | Red_Cloud | dutchfish, will do. |
| 00:27.32 | dannythm | bbrazil: (sorry I'm non english native speaker ^^Uu) |
| 00:27.43 | bbrazil | dannythm: turn it off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on |
| 00:27.50 | dannythm | bbrazil: yes |
| 00:28.01 | bbrazil | dannythm: haven't a clue then |
| 00:28.07 | dannythm | bbrazil: the fact is, that in my latlop, that uses win XP, the scanner works right |
| 00:28.37 | dannythm | bbrazil: and I purged the packages sane and xsane and reinstalled them, but nothing changed.... |
| 00:28.46 | Azar | dannythm: it might be a "windriver" like some printers have |
| 00:29.12 | bbrazil | dannythm: did you install any hp drivers? (hpoj for example) |
| 00:29.32 | bbrazil | Azar: he had it working previously |
| 00:29.41 | Azar | bbrazil: ah I see.. |
| 00:30.01 | dutchfish | ayone can help me out what app to use for a graphical (par example : gnome) tool for lvm2 like in RHEL 4? |
| 00:30.04 | bbrazil | Azar: it just mysteriously stoped working |
| 00:30.05 | Azar | maybe he got a new kernel .. |
| 00:30.15 | Azar | ..or some updates.. |
| 00:30.55 | tyranix | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: Not off the top of my head (try apt-cache search), but I would use OpenSSH's sftp instead of ftp+tls. |
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| 00:31.00 | dannythm | Azar: nope, I changed anything |
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| 00:31.06 | Azar | the syslog might tell him something |
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| 00:31.29 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tyranix know some other resources or irc channels that could help me ? |
| 00:31.32 | devazion | dutchfish: I looked in apt and found a package called "pmount". I installed in, and now, my kde just mounts the device for me =) (the pmount makes any user able to mount removeable devices it seems.) Thought you might wanted to know! |
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| 00:31.43 | Azar | might be some modules not loading.. or maybe just a trivial wire connection or port not working no more |
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| 00:31.57 | dutchfish | devazion, thx for the tip, didnt know that 1 |
| 00:31.59 | dannythm | Azar: the system was the exact way as the last scann. not rebooted, not installed or unistalled anything... no changes |
| 00:32.09 | dannythm | Azar: and the scanner stoped working suddenly |
| 00:32.22 | jim__ | fai and pbuilder don't seem to do what I need, so I will ask again: How do I apt-get install without the configuration? |
| 00:32.29 | Azar | dannythm: Id think the buffer chocked? |
| 00:33.03 | jim__ | I want the apt-get install to download the package, and unpack it but not configure it. |
| 00:33.05 | Damoe | is there a way to run ifup / ifdown periodically, but in an automatized way? |
| 00:33.10 | dannythm | Azar: in windows it works |
| 00:33.14 | bbrazil | Damoe: cron |
| 00:33.22 | Damoe | bbrazil, cron? |
| 00:33.27 | bbrazil | Damoe: man crontab |
| 00:33.40 | tyranix | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: I only see ftpd-ssl as the closest thing in debian. |
| 00:34.00 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | hmm |
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| 00:34.15 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | but i dont need an ftpdeamon i need some kind of bouncer |
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| 00:34.20 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | you understand what i mean? |
| 00:34.36 | bbrazil | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: squid maybe |
| 00:34.38 | Azar | dannythm: so the facts: it worked, and stopped working, it works on xp but no more in debian. if it worked before, and you did not do any changes/upgrades to the system, then it might be a hardware issue? |
| 00:35.17 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | thnx i'll check it out |
| 00:35.18 | dannythm | Azar: I though it was, but I tryed in 4 ports and the restult is the same |
| 00:35.19 | Azar | if would be a software/system issue, the syslog will let you know |
| 00:35.41 | tyranix | jim__: Have you tried apt-get install with -qq? But I don't understand the problem. With pbuilder, you create a baseline chroot. You can build packages and such from that baseline and then discard the results. And you can move the chroot to other machines. Do it once and you're done... |
| 00:35.51 | jim__ | I can use apt-get to download only (-d), but can not find an option that downloads and unpacks but not configures |
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| 00:36.18 | SirGeorge | dannythm, are there any other usb-related error messages, eg in dmesg |
| 00:36.19 | Shaun222 | whats the first tty look like on debian 3.1 in /etc/inittab? can somebody paste me theirs... |
| 00:36.21 | dutchfish | jim__, why not usemuh? |
| 00:36.26 | dutchfish | jim__, why not use muh? |
| 00:36.28 | bbrazil | jim__: man dpkg |
| 00:36.37 | dannythm | Azar: I checked the syslog before asking here, and I didn't found anything strange.... |
| 00:36.53 | jim__ | tyranix: pbuilder adds all the build stuff (compiler, etc). I don't want those. |
| 00:36.59 | veamos | hey.. I'm gonna buy a greforce video card.. so, will it work fine on debian? |
| 00:37.05 | Azar | dannythm: like SirGeorge said: dmesg ? or other related logs? |
| 00:37.15 | veamos | geforce |
| 00:37.21 | elnovato | veamos: nvidia works fine |
| 00:37.22 | yassine | SirGeorge, Read-only file system :( |
| 00:37.33 | dannythm | Azar: nothing strange :'( |
| 00:37.36 | veamos | I don't know if it's nvidia |
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| 00:37.48 | Azar | veamos, yes nvidia works ok but be conservative: don't jump on the latest one |
| 00:37.58 | dannythm | Azar: well I even didn'0t closed the program between scans |
| 00:37.59 | tyranix | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: Oh, you mean you want to tunnel FTP over something that's secure (encrypted + authentication)? There are several tools that can do that. |
| 00:38.00 | dutchfish | veamos, yes if you accept the nvidia drivers as they come |
| 00:38.00 | Isil`Zha | does any of you have some experience with tinyproxy? for some reason it doesn't want to accept my connection |
| 00:38.04 | [Rage3D]B | is there any thing i MUST know when I begin installing this debian linux |
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| 00:38.10 | jim__ | tyranix: I don't think qq stops the configure, no? It does appear that it stops the question prompt, but that can be done with --yes |
| 00:38.12 | SirGeorge | yassine, what fs did you format the partition with exactly? |
| 00:38.15 | elnovato | Want to sell: ati radeon 9200 :D |
| 00:38.15 | Azar | dannythm: if the system does not complain : the phisycal connection is dead. |
| 00:38.16 | veamos | all geforce video cards's vendor is nvidia? |
| 00:38.18 | Isil`Zha | i guess i need to add/change something in the conf |
| 00:38.19 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tyranix may i PM you ? |
| 00:38.30 | Isil`Zha | unfortunately the conf it barely existing |
| 00:38.33 | dannythm | Azar: lsusb shows the scan perfectly |
| 00:38.47 | Isil`Zha | *the docu is |
| 00:39.00 | dutchfish | veamos, no but the chipset is |
| 00:39.09 | Azar | dannythm: you are doing something that is not quite right, look online for HOWTOS for scanners |
| 00:39.25 | jim__ | dutchfish: what is muh? |
| 00:39.26 | Damoe | bbrazil, how do i use that cron thing? i read the manual.. but it isnt clear enough for me |
| 00:39.29 | yassine | SirGeorge, /dev/sdb1p1 63 8413120 4206529 83 Linux this is returned by fdisk |
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| 00:39.34 | SirGeorge | dannythm, perhaps something in the sane.conf in /etc changed magically... cant think of it, but... try purging and reinstalling |
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| 00:39.43 | dutchfish | jim__, ignore it was for tyranix |
| 00:39.57 | sm | all: I seem to be able to downgrade by appending /stable to each package |
| 00:39.59 | veamos | so, well.. any geforce video card will work fine on debian and opengl? |
| 00:40.01 | yassine | SirGeorge, but there is definetly some windows old stuff on it im confused |
| 00:40.03 | SirGeorge | yassine, no, not the partition type, the filesystem |
| 00:40.11 | dannythm | Azar: I did!! and all say "for hp scanners xsane should detect them and make them work just right" |
| 00:40.15 | dutchfish | veamos, most do |
| 00:40.19 | SirGeorge | yassine, how do you mount it then? |
| 00:40.20 | jim__ | bbrazil: I need the power of apt-get, but without configuring. Dpkg is not enough for me. |
| 00:40.21 | veamos | I hope |
| 00:40.38 | yassine | SirGeorge, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/backup |
| 00:41.07 | SirGeorge | yassine, mount|grep sdb1 |
| 00:41.14 | yassine | ok |
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| 00:41.29 | dannythm | Azar: I've thoug too that it may be a problem that, in normal user mode the scaner is not deteted, I can only see it in root mode |
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| 00:41.47 | yassine | SirGeorge, gives nothing back :s |
| 00:41.48 | dannythm | Azar: so I have to start xsane in root mode so it detects the scaner |
| 00:42.34 | yassine | SirGeorge, should i add someting in my fstab ? |
| 00:42.41 | SirGeorge | yanimax, then it isn't mounted. even if you see data in /mnt/backup |
| 00:42.42 | dannythm | Azar: but, if it worked right, and I changed nothing, I dunno how that can affect the scan or the software to just stop working =S |
| 00:42.45 | dutchfish | jim__, why not use -d and unpack manually? |
| 00:42.55 | yanimax | <SirGeorge> ? |
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| 00:43.20 | jim__ | dutchfish: I thought of that, but how do I get the list of dependencies? |
| 00:43.22 | SirGeorge | yanimax, ? |
| 00:43.32 | aidan | I have a design problem. I have a half a dozen sites and a dozen users. I need a way to give each user access to their 1/2/3 sites. |
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| 00:43.44 | fas3r | hi all |
| 00:44.18 | SirGeorge | yassine, mount should have given an error if it couldn't mount the partition |
| 00:44.24 | lakcaj | aidan, virtual hosts? |
| 00:44.25 | dutchfish | jim__, thats simple: just do a dry run (install) and see the output -> -d -s as options |
| 00:45.08 | aidan | lakcaj: yep exactly |
| 00:45.09 | yassine | SirGeorge, its mounting it |
| 00:45.19 | yassine | but with read only |
| 00:45.42 | SirGeorge | yassine, then mount|grep sdb1 must output something |
| 00:45.48 | Azar | dannythm: this might sound asinine, but I recall that windows uses a different version of usb... |
| 00:46.16 | dannythm | Azar: the problem is that the scaner answers, starts scaning, but it stios without movin the lamp more that 1mm... =S |
| 00:46.55 | dannythm | Azar: yeah... I know... but... it worked.... >< |
| 00:46.56 | Azar | dannythm: ..yes it locks, it used to happen to me as well... back when I was using windows |
| 00:47.23 | SirGeorge | if it's ntfs, you probably can do "mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt/backup". But it's most likely experimental |
| 00:47.24 | jim__ | dutchfish: That could perhaps work, although if there is anything easier I would take it first as the output of apt-get install -s -d is not a clean list of packages (ie- I would need to do something to get the list of packages first). I just am not believing that there is no way to apt-get install without configuring.... |
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| 00:47.51 | Azar | dannythm: the scanning application, does not give you any hint? |
| 00:48.03 | dannythm | Azar: what can I do? if changin the port or reinstallign the program dosen't works....? |
| 00:48.21 | dutchfish | jim__, the configuring fase depends on the package itself and what is in it, some will, some won't |
| 00:48.40 | Azar | dannythm: beats me, I have no idea.. |
| 00:49.11 | dutchfish | jim__, remember that there are alot of packages that dont need any configuration fase |
| 00:49.12 | SirGeorge | dannythm, have you tried unloading all related modules? |
| 00:49.14 | jim__ | dutchfish: I know, but the ones I am interested in do ask questions. |
| 00:49.18 | dannythm | Azar: yeah... that's the point... lol |
| 00:49.36 | dutchfish | jim__, then you have to script it through bash |
| 00:49.50 | dannythm | SirGeorge: I purged the one's I donwloaded to scan |
| 00:49.59 | jim__ | dutchfish: I just want a generic way to build dists in a chrooted environment using scripts alone, I can not believe that is not simple to do. |
| 00:50.25 | Azar | dannythm: did you tried to google for your problem? |
| 00:50.27 | dutchfish | jim__, i will delf in it later... sorry i have no more clues |
| 00:50.30 | dannythm | SirGeorge: dpkg --purge sane xsane (i think there are no more, at last, thore are the two I use) |
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| 00:50.40 | jim__ | dutchfish: that is what I am doing, I don't want the prompts though. |
| 00:50.49 | dannythm | Azar: I dunno what to search =S |
| 00:50.49 | SirGeorge | dannythm, i mean the kernel modules |
| 00:50.57 | Azar | dannythm: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=scanner+stops+working+with+linux&btnG=Search |
| 00:51.11 | Asmodee` | my debian box works fine when trying to obtain it's ip via DHCP, but if I try to set a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces it doesn't care much for it. is there something else I need to change in addition to this file to tell it to not try to use dhcp? |
| 00:51.33 | dutchfish | jim__, myabe overkill but did you reread this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-install |
| 00:51.39 | Azar | Asmodee`: you have to restart interfaces after you configure |
| 00:52.03 | Asmodee` | Azar: yeah, even a reboot of the system doesn't work though |
| 00:52.17 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, comment #iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:52.19 | dannythm | SirGeorge: I dunno what kernel modules are involved in this... |
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| 00:52.30 | Asmodee` | if i manually set the ip, netmask, bcast, netmask using ifconfig and then also add the default gw manually using route it works perfectly |
| 00:52.37 | Asmodee` | SirGeorge: done |
| 00:52.52 | SirGeorge | dannythm, modprobe -r usb sd scsi |
| 00:52.59 | Asmodee` | so there's nothing else that needs to be done when going from dhcp to static aside from editing that single file? |
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| 00:53.06 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 00:53.13 | Asmodee` | and of course restarting |
| 00:53.18 | jim__ | dutchfish: that just seems to be a tutorial on apt-get install. |
| 00:53.25 | Asmodee` | i mean there's no other config files that need to be edited aside from /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 00:53.36 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, no |
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| 00:54.19 | Asmodee` | then i have something else odd with this install.. i have a box that has always been static ip, then i have another that was dhcp before and is now trying to be static... the one works fine and the other doesnt |
| 00:54.34 | dannythm | SirGeorge: I have no modules called "usb" |
| 00:55.34 | dutchfish | jim__, got somthing: google on auto-apt |
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| 00:56.14 | Asmodee` | so there's absolutely no other configs at all that I could possibly need to change? |
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| 00:56.51 | rpt | someone familiar with cryptsetup here? |
| 00:56.52 | SirGeorge | dannythm, rmmod sg sr_mod scsi-mod ohci-hcd uhci-hcd usb-core |
| 00:57.24 | dutchfish | jim__, and apt-file |
| 00:57.48 | aidan | I have a design problem. I have a half a dozen sites and a dozen users, I need a way to give each user access to their sites. Under redhat with the UPG system, I made each site a group and put each of the users groups in that group. Then mount --binded the site in their homedir. Is there a better way to do it? |
| 00:57.58 | SirGeorge | dannythm, dont know if there are any scanner specific modules, you must check lsmod in the "used by" column |
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| 00:58.36 | dutchfish | aidan, what kind of access? |
| 00:59.15 | Azar | Asmodee`: if your dns servers have changed as well you need to tell /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:59.18 | aidan | dutchfish: well they need read/write access to the filesystem |
| 00:59.22 | jim__ | dutchfish: thanks, I am looking at those. |
| 00:59.36 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, yeah, i forgot that |
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| 00:59.50 | dutchfish | aidan, yes, but what kind off accees? ftp, shell etc? |
| 01:00.06 | aidan | dutchfish: ah sorry, I'm thinking about sftp |
| 01:00.15 | aidan | I don't want to run any insecure protocols on this box |
| 01:00.23 | Asmodee` | I'm just concerned with getting this box to have an IP, not any services like dns |
| 01:00.32 | Asmodee` | if i type ifconfig the box hangs |
| 01:00.47 | dutchfish | aidan, why not some ftp-servers with 1 mysql backend on 1 server through a tunnel? |
| 01:00.48 | Azar | Asmodee`: every connection has to have at least 2 DNS assigned by the ISP |
| 01:00.48 | Asmodee` | ifconfig eth0 down and then ifconfig you would expect to see the information for lo, but it shows absolutely nothing |
| 01:00.49 | aidan | we had our last machine confriscated by the FBI because someone hacked their datacenter via our box |
| 01:01.02 | rpt | really noone messed around with encrypting using cryptsetup? |
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| 01:01.22 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, ifconfig .a |
| 01:01.24 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, ifconfig -a |
| 01:01.27 | dannythm | SirGeorge: when I just used that last command, all my USB stuff stoped woking |
| 01:01.30 | saturday | Hello |
| 01:01.34 | dutchfish | aidan, then yu have a centralized authentication |
| 01:01.34 | Asmodee` | my issue is not dns resolution, it's interface configuration |
| 01:01.41 | _pp[hamas] | hi |
| 01:01.45 | _pp[hamas] | how 2 use debian ? |
| 01:01.47 | dannythm | I had to reboot 'cause my keyboard and mouse stoped working |
| 01:01.50 | SirGeorge | dannythm, so replug all usb-devices |
| 01:01.51 | jim__ | dutschfish: those don't seem to do what I wanted. |
| 01:01.53 | _pp[hamas] | how 2 use debian ? pls help me. |
| 01:02.02 | Azar | Asmodee`: when you wish to connect your box you have to have: Your fixed IP address, a Gateway address, and 2 DNS addresses, all of them given to you by your ISP |
| 01:02.06 | aidan | what do you mean "some ftp-servers", you mean more than 1? |
| 01:02.22 | Asmodee` | Azar: DNS has absolutely nothing to do with assigning an IP to eth0 |
| 01:02.23 | SirGeorge | dannythm, replugging should have helped |
| 01:02.35 | saturday | I try to setup another computer with and dual screen. I have read the xinema howto on TLDP. But i fail in the config of the XFree86 file. |
| 01:02.36 | Azar | Asmodee`: all that info is required you want it or not, the box needs hit |
| 01:02.37 | dutchfish | jim__, your solution (in my opinion) is the combined use of those tools |
| 01:02.44 | Azar | /s/hit/it |
| 01:02.47 | Asmodee` | you are misunderstanding my problem |
| 01:02.55 | dannythm | SirGeorge: I repluged the keyboard and not worked |
| 01:02.56 | yonkeltron | GOOD SHABBOS!!! |
| 01:03.06 | jim__ | dutchfish: howso? |
| 01:03.07 | SirGeorge | Azar, but that doesn't explain a hangig ifconfig |
| 01:03.14 | Asmodee` | if I type |
| 01:03.16 | Asmodee` | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 01:03.19 | aidan | the mysql backend is okay, my only problem is setting up the filesystem access under debian |
| 01:03.20 | saturday | The 2 monitors work, but its are duplicated view. I would like to split the view in two and no see it on the 2 monitors |
| 01:03.21 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: ideally you shouldn't be configuring interfaces with ifconfig, but by editing /etc/network/interfaces and then using ifup/ifdown |
| 01:03.24 | dannythm | SirGeorge: the scanner stills acting the same.... |
| 01:03.28 | Azar | ah ok |
| 01:03.28 | Asmodee` | then i manually set the ip and route using ifconfig and route the box works 100% fine |
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| 01:03.42 | SirGeorge | dannythm, thats strange, perhaps something wrong with your hardware. what motherboard do you have? |
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| 01:03.57 | Asmodee` | the problem is, my edits to /etc/network/interfaces are not working and they are valid |
| 01:04.11 | Asmodee` | which leads me to believe there is something else that needs to be done |
| 01:04.17 | bluszcz_ | i have no supported main board chipset, where i can submit it? |
| 01:04.23 | dutchfish | jim__, if you read those man pages of those tools carefully you will be able to simple script your needs |
| 01:04.24 | saturday | So that i have 2 monitors conected on on pc with 2 diferents view. I hope i have been explain me :-/ |
| 01:04.27 | dannythm | SirGeorge: a gigabyte one |
| 01:04.31 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: well, after editing, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
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| 01:05.00 | dannythm | SirGeorge: but never gave me a problem, and when I tested the scanner in win vista beta it worked in this same machine few hrs ago... |
| 01:05.11 | dannythm | SirGeorge: it's a software issue I think |
| 01:05.24 | Azar | dannythm: your scanner got infected from vista |
| 01:05.24 | jim__ | dutchfish: auto-apt is something one uses to have files automatically apt-get'ed when you use them. I need the apt-get to happen in a script. The other tool looks for packages in the list of packages. |
| 01:05.35 | SirGeorge | Azar, my talking ;) |
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| 01:05.41 | d03boy | why isnt bbdock in the repositories :( |
| 01:05.42 | jim__ | dutchfish: I don't see how either allow me to apt-get and not configure. |
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| 01:05.50 | dannythm | SirGeorge: 'cause the scanner is recogniced in every port I plug it in, but not scan >< |
| 01:05.58 | saturday | I explain again, i would like to setup my pc like http://houghi.org/shots/dualscreen001.jpg |
| 01:06.00 | Azar | SirGeorge: I would not wonder that they would put a DRM virus on the peripherals |
| 01:06.01 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: ive gone as far as rebooting the box |
| 01:06.03 | dannythm | SirGeorge: how can I clean the vista mess? lol |
| 01:06.18 | saturday | Now is see the same things on the 2 monitors |
| 01:06.32 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: well, the init scripts also use ifup |
| 01:06.50 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: care to provide the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 01:06.55 | saturday | Can i paste a link with 'pastebin' ? |
| 01:06.57 | dutchfish | jim__, just to make this clear: by *not configure* you mean not alter the default configuration files provided by the packages in an interactive way? |
| 01:07.07 | Asmodee` | i will absolutely provide them, with IP's changed by a fixed value of course ;) |
| 01:07.17 | SirGeorge | dannythm, tried a cold boot? |
| 01:07.30 | jim__ | dutchfish: interactive being the key word. |
| 01:07.30 | Luftzig | I just followed the guide on http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/troubleshooting.html for installing nvidia framebuffer, and everything went just fine, but there's no nvidia.ko file in /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/nvidia/nvidia.ko |
| 01:07.36 | dannythm | SirGeorge: yes |
| 01:07.55 | dutchfish | jim__, then you can simply run the silent install... |
| 01:08.02 | SirGeorge | dannythm, even cutting the power for a few seconds? from all peripherals? |
| 01:08.03 | Azar | Luftzig: nvidia one-liner might help |
| 01:08.08 | Azar | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:08.08 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 01:08.09 | jim__ | dutchfish: what is the silent install? |
| 01:08.14 | d03boy | do I have to compile bbdock myself? Is there a correct "debian" way of installing it? |
| 01:08.24 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WRGBDk14.html |
| 01:08.34 | xerophyte | http://www.coolhunting.com/archives/2006/02/multitouch_user.php |
| 01:08.54 | xerophyte | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-y3ZNaCqs |
| 01:09.06 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, line 3 |
| 01:09.12 | Asmodee` | my big problem is that this box is at a colo (just got there today) and its not coming up.. i have to have a tech manually kill eth0 via ifconfig and then set the ip and route using ifconfig and route |
| 01:09.13 | saturday | I have paste the Xfree86 file http://pastebin.ca/42012 |
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| 01:09.22 | saturday | Can someone help me ? |
| 01:09.35 | Asmodee` | after the tech manually sets my ip and route as per my instructions manually the box is fine, but if i reboot it hangs |
| 01:09.37 | Asmodee` | well ifconfig hangs |
| 01:09.54 | SirGeorge | Asmodee`, line 3, missing hash |
| 01:10.00 | mgoetze | well, ifconfig hanging is really weird, of course |
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| 01:10.45 | dutchfish | jim__, this option (as far as i know) can be altered in apt_preferences |
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| 01:11.02 | Asmodee` | SirGeorge: i see... thanks, im going to bitch about this to the tech that set that up! they were blaming the problem on me |
| 01:11.10 | Asmodee` | i didnt even notice thate line |
| 01:11.31 | saturday | I not understand why it not work :-/ if someone could give a raison. |
| 01:11.34 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: a /25 netmask is pretty weird too, but i'm assuming you knew that already :) |
| 01:11.36 | dannythm | so no help... |
| 01:11.44 | dutchfish | jim__, or do you mean the -q (quiet) option form man apt-get |
| 01:11.49 | dannythm | my scaner's linux dead....:'( |
| 01:12.05 | Azar | dannythm: on google there sure are more people like you that wrote and got answers in forums. |
| 01:12.35 | dutchfish | jim, apt-get -q2 option |
| 01:12.35 | SirGeorge | dannythm, the power-cut didn't help? |
| 01:12.44 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: well i have more than 1 box colocated already ;) |
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| 01:12.48 | Azar | dannythm: google : usb scanner problem with linux and start reading at |
| 01:12.48 | jim__ | dutchfish: I am writing scripts that automatically install stuff. The scripts should apt-get stuff without asking the user questions. |
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| 01:13.03 | dannythm | SirGeorge: nope |
| 01:13.04 | Asmodee` | ive recently switched to debian from slackware... this is my second debian box |
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| 01:13.31 | dutchfish | jim__, i think as far as can follow you, you will need the -q2 option (man apt-get) |
| 01:13.45 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: so, does "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" work after adding the missing hash? |
| 01:13.46 | Azar | should I guess... you installed with default dhcp... |
| 01:14.21 | dannythm | well.. I'll reinstall debian o next week.. so I'll test the scan agin then |
| 01:14.34 | dutchfish | jim__, sorry for my (not so complete) english |
| 01:14.47 | SirGeorge | dannythm, you have knoppix or so lying somewhere? |
| 01:15.15 | jim__ | dutchfish: qq doesn't seem to be what I need either. |
| 01:15.28 | Azar | dannythm: what kernel version are you using ? |
| 01:15.46 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: it appears not ;\ |
| 01:15.57 | Asmodee` | maybe there's a single letter thats off also |
| 01:16.15 | dannythm | Azar: 2.6 I think |
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| 01:16.24 | dannythm | Azar: sarge |
| 01:16.24 | jim__ | dutchfish: I have a script that builds distributions. First it uses debootstrap to get the base system. Then I want to get other stuff like mysql. I sudo chroot apt-get install mysql, but the user is questioned when this is run. |
| 01:16.29 | Azar | dannythm: uname -a see waht version |
| 01:16.55 | Red_Cloud | I am trying to force uninstall a dpkg package. I have gone to the --force -help and need to know what this option is: warn but continue: --force-<thing>,<thing>,... What in the world is <thing>? |
| 01:17.03 | jim__ | dutchfish: I don't want the auto config (I can provide my own config scripts), I just want the files. |
| 01:17.03 | dannythm | Azar: Linux Navi 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:17.32 | Azar | dannythm: I see, that should be ok ... |
| 01:17.33 | jim__ | dutchfish: I would like to be able to run the script and go get a cup of cola.... |
| 01:17.43 | SirGeorge | Red_Cloud, different things you want to force ;) e.g. depends, all, ... |
| 01:17.44 | dutchfish | jim__, why not use the -q option then and scripting the overwrite woth your own config files? |
| 01:17.46 | jim__ | dutchfish: but the configuration asks questions. |
| 01:18.03 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: well, that's weird... good luck |
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| 01:18.08 | jim__ | dutchfish: will the -q stop the configuration questions? |
| 01:18.26 | Red_Cloud | SirGeorge, I want to force an uninstall |
| 01:18.26 | dutchfish | jim__, yes, hehe... -q means quiet for that too |
| 01:18.50 | dutchfish | jim__, denpends on the level of quiet ie 2 for most quiet |
| 01:18.57 | Asmodee` | i should have set a cronjob to do manually drop eth0 and readd the ip and route.. ill do that next time |
| 01:19.08 | Red_Cloud | SirGeorge, I think that I understand. I will try something else and be back |
| 01:19.16 | dannythm | Azar: could it be a problem with the cable?? |
| 01:19.29 | dutchfish | jim__, but be aware as the manpage says, you need this along with another option like -d so no unexpected things happens |
| 01:19.30 | saturday | Have someone read the file i paste in pastebin ? |
| 01:19.46 | Azar | dannythm: if it works with another box, is not the cable but rather the usb port of your debian box? |
| 01:20.01 | Bac9 | can someone help me with X11? The computer was restarted and now X doesn't start up "undefined symbol: MGAGetBOARDHANDLESize". I am running standard xorg drivers on etch |
| 01:20.02 | jim__ | dutchfish: One second, I am trying. |
| 01:20.07 | dutchfish | jim__, ok |
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| 01:20.29 | Azar | Bac9: sorry, etch is testing therefore it breaks |
| 01:20.29 | jim__ | dutchfish: no go, still asking my configure questions. |
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| 01:21.17 | Bac9 | Azar: that doesn't help me much |
| 01:21.33 | dutchfish | jim__, -q2 and along with the --force-yes option? |
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| 01:22.03 | Azar | Bac9: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=undefined+symbol%3A+MGAGetBOARDHANDLESize&btnG=Google+Search |
| 01:22.04 | aaronlin | How can I find out what version of Debian I am running? |
| 01:22.06 | SirGeorge | is getting dizzy |
| 01:22.22 | Asmodee` | ok problem solved, thanks Silent_al, mgoetze, Azar. |
| 01:22.26 | mgoetze | aaronlin: /etc/debian_version contains clues |
| 01:22.27 | Asmodee` | err SirGeorge_sleeps i mean |
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| 01:22.42 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: how'd you fix it, then? |
| 01:23.02 | aaronlin | thanks |
| 01:23.34 | Red_Cloud | SirGeorge, I guess that I did not understand. Please give me a hint. I want to uninstall of remove a package named transfig. I have navigated to the directory where the transfig.1.gz resides. To remove this partially installed package, what do I type into the command line using dpkg? |
| 01:23.36 | dannythm | Azar: nah, wi xp frozed while booting lol I think I may let the scanning for tomorrow |
| 01:24.02 | Azar | dannythm: yes is better not to break yourself over in one day |
| 01:24.45 | aaronlin | exit |
| 01:24.51 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: F1 keyboard error on reboot... they didnt change the bios to ignore keyboard errros on bootup |
| 01:25.17 | SirGeorge_sleeps | dpkg -r transfig |
| 01:25.50 | mgoetze | Asmodee`: oh, wonderful. i hope you let them know how much you appreciate their efforts ;) |
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| 01:26.19 | jim__ | dutchfish: That might be working.... !! Not 100% sure yet though, I will let you know. |
| 01:26.20 | SirGeorge_sleeps | Red_Cloud, dpkg -r transfig to uninstall, dpkg -P transfig to purge (clear configs), dpkg -P --force-all transfig the brutal way |
| 01:26.38 | Asmodee` | mgoetze: definately |
| 01:26.39 | dutchfish | jim__, ;) |
| 01:27.01 | dutchfish | jim__, afk for a coffee |
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| 01:28.04 | jim__ | dutchfish: what is afk? |
| 01:28.05 | Red_Cloud | SirGeorge, thanks for the help. I have tried the dpkg -r transfig previously and got the reply: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. I tried a reinstall but it was no cigar. |
| 01:28.21 | dutchfish | jim__, away from keyboard (not yet) |
| 01:28.35 | dannythm | Azar: WA!!!! If in xsane I set it as to scan in grey, it just scans!!! |
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| 01:28.49 | Red_Cloud | I tried dpkg -P transfig with similar results. |
| 01:28.53 | Azar | dannythm: so you are near to resolve the issue |
| 01:29.00 | jim__ | dutchfish: well, it seemed to work for mysql, but I am trying it for other stuff now |
| 01:29.07 | dannythm | Azar: yeah |
| 01:29.22 | jim__ | dutchfish: if it worked (or even if not) thanks for the help. |
| 01:29.24 | dutchfish | jim__, be carefull to first fully test it on non-production machines will you? |
| 01:29.41 | Azar | so the application that renders the image with the scanner does not shake hands well with the linux system |
| 01:29.55 | jim__ | dutchfish: always do.... |
| 01:30.01 | dannythm | Azar: it seems... |
| 01:30.03 | dutchfish | jim__, gl |
| 01:30.13 | jim__ | dutchfish: thanks |
| 01:30.41 | Azar | dannythm: if I were you Id go to the manufacturer website and search for linux drivers/applications for it, or email them for more clues |
| 01:31.00 | dutchfish | jim__, maybe you can help me with my question? |
| 01:31.07 | Red_Cloud | SirGeorge_sleeps, I do believe that the command dpkg -P --force-all transfig has worked. Thank you very much. It was driving me mad. You have helped restore my usual state of mental confusion with which I can cope |
| 01:31.15 | jim__ | dutchfish: what is the question? |
| 01:31.43 | dutchfish | jim__, i am looking for a graphical tool to configure lvm2 on my 5 TB scsii enclosure, like RHEL 4 has... is there any? |
| 01:31.46 | SirGeorge_sleeps | Red_Cloud, np ;) |
| 01:31.57 | dannythm | Azar: it's a HP scan... in theis web page they say we use this program... |
| 01:32.22 | dutchfish | jim__, for sarge i meant |
| 01:32.31 | jim__ | dutchfish: 5 TB, huge! |
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| 01:33.05 | dannythm | Azar: ohh.. I see... it holds when I say him to scan in 16 bit.... but it was scaning in 16 bit before... is the default config of the program... strange.... |
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| 01:33.06 | jim__ | dutchfish: I've only set up an lvm once and used the debian installer. |
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| 01:33.50 | jim__ | dutchfish: Ultimitely I left it because I was having problems. |
| 01:33.51 | dutchfish | jim__, i config it with lvm tools but i dont want to make mistakes thats why i need a graphical front end to easely propagate logical volumes |
| 01:34.42 | dutchfish | jim__, lvm2 works flawless, but it lacks a graphical fornt-end |
| 01:34.44 | jim__ | dutchfish: ugh, I am still getting prompts in other packages. |
| 01:34.57 | dutchfish | jim__, dang |
| 01:36.09 | jim__ | dutchfish: Not that I know much about lvm, but will qt_parted work on it? |
| 01:36.37 | dutchfish | jim__, my best bet is to delf in the debian maint-guide |
| 01:37.02 | dutchfish | jim__, ill try i let you know in a moment |
| 01:37.06 | jim__ | dutchfish: I know from using it on regular formatted hard drives that it is a nice graphical gui for the hard drive. |
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| 01:38.31 | dannythm | Azar: well... problem solved ^^ |
| 01:38.38 | dannythm | thanks to everyone for the help! |
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| 01:40.15 | dutchfish | jim__, in wich packages is qt_parted? |
| 01:40.32 | ccg | is there any decent videoplayer like xine in etch ? |
| 01:40.43 | resiak | !info qtparted |
| 01:40.56 | dpkg | qtparted: (A parted frontend using QT), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 198 kB, Installed size: 680 kB |
| 01:41.03 | resiak | ^^^ |
| 01:41.07 | dutchfish | ccg, mplayer? |
| 01:41.14 | jim__ | dutchfish: to tell you the truth, I have only ever used it on systemrescuedisk, let me see if I can find it. |
| 01:41.23 | resiak | !info totem etch |
| 01:41.36 | resiak | Hmm, |
| 01:42.05 | jim__ | dutchfish: I have a qtparted package. |
| 01:42.31 | resiak | but ... totem _is_ in testing... |
| 01:43.29 | sdvsdg | Can someone start a PM w/me so you can help me finish installing Debian.. All i need to do is install the GNU |
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| 01:44.53 | buu | AHHAHAA |
| 01:45.44 | sdvsdg | buu: thaaaaaats not polite |
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| 01:45.49 | buu | Funny though |
| 01:46.13 | sdvsdg | I am at the command line.. now i am stumped |
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| 01:48.11 | resiak | sdvsdg: apt-get install xfce4 gdm |
| 01:48.25 | tengulre11 | Our company want to developt a telecom level fax server, who can give me some tips or resources? |
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| 01:49.54 | sdvsdg | resiak: I am using i386 is xfce4 gdm the correct apt-get? Also what is the command for root access |
| 01:50.18 | buu | sdvsdg: 'su' |
| 01:50.35 | buu | sdvsdg: What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 01:50.49 | sdvsdg | some sort of graphical interface |
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| 01:51.28 | dvs | sdvsdg: KDE or Gnome? |
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| 01:51.51 | sdvsdg | Gnome for now |
| 01:52.13 | dvs | !install gnome |
| 01:52.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 01:52.44 | sdvsdg | set up x |
| 01:52.54 | dvs | sdvsdg: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 01:53.13 | sdvsdg | thx |
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| 01:56.18 | doublehp_ | any one can tell me in which section of xorg.conf I shall tweak the pitch/DPI ? |
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| 01:56.29 | sdvsdg | dpkg only helps with woody and sarge it seems |
| 01:56.57 | dvs | sdvsdg: If you're new, you want sarge |
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| 01:57.20 | ansong | should i be using dbus or dbus-1? i can't tell if there's a difference from the aptitude search results... |
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| 01:59.08 | sdvsdg | how does one long onto root |
| 01:59.14 | sdvsdg | log* |
| 01:59.21 | bbrazil | sdvsdg: su |
| 01:59.35 | sdvsdg | *+ |
| 01:59.35 | sdvsdg | ./ |
| 01:59.41 | sdvsdg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:01.52 | sdvsdg | how do i get x-window-system? |
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| 02:02.26 | dvs | sdvsdg: I'll give you one guess |
| 02:02.27 | hit | apt-get x-window-system-core |
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| 02:02.32 | sdvsdg | lol |
| 02:02.34 | dvs | hit: wrong |
| 02:02.34 | deadcat_ | apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 02:02.40 | hit | apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 02:02.40 | dvs | !beer deadcat_ |
| 02:02.53 | jan_ | Hi, i'm trying to install apache2-mpm-worker , but then libapache2-mod-php4 is removed |
| 02:02.55 | hit | right? |
| 02:03.07 | dvs | hit: deadcat got the beer. Sorry |
| 02:03.11 | imaek | My mac has reverted itself to booting directly into OS X, and I cannot get it to boot into yaboot again. How can I change the default boot partition? |
| 02:04.01 | bluszcz_ | how can i submit error to alan cox? |
| 02:04.20 | dondelelcaro | imaek: boot using your debian install media, mount the root filesystem, chroot, and run ybin -v -v; |
| 02:04.23 | Azar | :) a spelling error? |
| 02:04.23 | deadcat | bluszcz_: hes not gonna care |
| 02:05.22 | jan_ | (or better, how do i use php4 with mpm-worker ?) |
| 02:05.23 | Azar | email message to alan cox: my mom has been experienced a fatal error when she had me |
| 02:05.37 | dvs | Doh! |
| 02:06.08 | imaek | dondelelcaro: it isn't in traditional format (/dev/hdXX), how do I mount it? |
| 02:06.16 | sdvsdg | What is a video card's bus identifier? |
| 02:06.36 | Azar | hmm this was not news to me: if one changes the motherboard has to purchase another mswin license. (for mswin systems) |
| 02:06.39 | dvs | sdvsdg: leave it blank |
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| 02:06.44 | dvs | sdvsdg: Oh wait |
| 02:07.03 | dvs | sdvsdg: Yeah, leave that blank |
| 02:07.54 | markybob | i wonder if alan cox remembers what his face feels like under all that facial hair. |
| 02:07.56 | ansong | Azar, no you don't. perform a system recovery with your install media. if it's XP and it gripes about not the product key, call the number listed on the screen and have them issue you a new one. |
| 02:07.59 | hit | how to make sun-java-creator2 support my zh-cn characters? |
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| 02:08.26 | hit | chinese characters |
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| 02:08.56 | Azar | ansong: that when the old mobo dies.. but say you just want to buy a new mobo... that (they say) has no coverage |
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| 02:10.16 | hit | markybob who is alan cox? |
| 02:10.24 | markybob | hit, dont worry about it. |
| 02:10.39 | dvs | !alax cox |
| 02:10.42 | dvs | !alan cox |
| 02:10.42 | dpkg | methinks alan cox is just about 3/4 deity or is found in http://www.uk.linux.org/diary/, or someone who works on FreeBSD with the same name, but really isn't the Alan Cox you know of Linux fame., or http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/40/ns-10500.html Interview by LWN: http://lwn.net/1999/features/ACInterview/, or a guy who drinks alot of beer. |
| 02:11.00 | Azar | if anyone cares: Ian Murdock said in his blog earlier this month that he now is chief technology officer of the Free Standards Group and chairman of its Linux Standard Base (LSB) work group. |
| 02:11.24 | markybob | Azar, huh. neat. hadnt heard anything about ian in a long time. |
| 02:11.29 | Jambon | if i want to mount a cd burner drive what command should i use? |
| 02:11.32 | Azar | "ambition is the last refube of failure" -- Oscar Wilde |
| 02:11.40 | Azar | refuge* |
| 02:11.46 | dvs | refuse |
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| 02:11.51 | Azar | :) |
| 02:11.52 | hit | how to access NTFS? |
| 02:11.54 | Azar | nooo refuge |
| 02:11.55 | sdvsdg | YAY! okay i got all that stuff installed now I just need to run it |
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| 02:12.08 | markybob | Azar, pretty freakin' weird that you mentioned that. first time i heard it was about an hour ago |
| 02:12.11 | dvs | sdvsdg: startx |
| 02:12.13 | ansong | azar, i have done that. they don't care. |
| 02:12.18 | elnovato | hit: use mount command, man mount |
| 02:12.34 | markybob | hit, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx /mnt |
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| 02:13.48 | doublehp_ | pitch is defined depending on "DisplaySize" in "Monitor" |
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| 02:14.07 | sdvsdg | unable to start X session --- no "/root/.xsession" file, no "/root/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting. |
| 02:14.33 | dvs | sdvsdg: you have to be a normal user to use X |
| 02:14.45 | Azar | ..reading on about standardizing some elements of linux so software makers don't have to worry about different versions of distros..hmmm you know, I am glad we have stable/testing/unstable now |
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| 02:15.38 | imaek | Using the BusyBox shell that comes on the PowerPC installation media, how do I mount my linux filesystem? |
| 02:15.55 | hit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.04 | dvs | hit: read only |
| 02:16.07 | sdvsdg | how do become a regular user? |
| 02:16.16 | dvs | sdvsdg: Try "exit" |
| 02:16.20 | sdvsdg | exit |
| 02:16.22 | sdvsdg | :P |
| 02:16.26 | dvs | NOT HERE!!! ;-( |
| 02:16.32 | Azar | haha |
| 02:16.36 | Azar | try /part |
| 02:16.53 | hit | dvs : oh yes but not badly |
| 02:17.33 | Jambon | i want to burn a cd with gnomebaker, but it tells me the cd drive isn't mounted, how do i do that? |
| 02:17.38 | sdvsdg | i got the same old "unable to start X session --- no "/root/.xsession" file, no "/root/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting." |
| 02:17.54 | sdvsdg | im thinking i didnt install something i should have |
| 02:17.56 | dvs | sdvsdg: you're still root |
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| 02:18.16 | sdvsdg | i hit exit |
| 02:18.19 | m1ke_l | dont supposed anyone know refresh rates for sun monitor? |
| 02:18.22 | dvs | sdvsdg: whoami |
| 02:19.02 | kspath | m1ke_l: VAGUE, there were/are many many models |
| 02:19.09 | sdvsdg | whoami returns birdmw |
| 02:19.25 | sdvsdg | i used birmw for both my root and my normal account |
| 02:19.35 | Azar | this brings me memories : < j1b> kdm users wear black turtlenecks. discus.... |
| 02:19.39 | kspath | sdvsdg: type id |
| 02:19.39 | dvs | hmmm... |
| 02:19.50 | m1ke_l | yes, but maybe someone knows...the gdm-5010pt model |
| 02:19.57 | hit | how to get libc6 and libxrender1 ,both is the latest stable release |
| 02:19.57 | m1ke_l | googling, but can't find anything. |
| 02:20.06 | imaek | Where is the device for my partition using BusyBox (PowerPC install media shell)? |
| 02:20.11 | ansong | Azar, holy crap, how did you know? |
| 02:20.24 | kspath | m1ke_l: Sunsite might still list the specs. |
| 02:20.25 | Azar | ansong: about what? |
| 02:20.43 | m1ke_l | yes, but you have to create an account and junk |
| 02:20.45 | m1ke_l | i guess ill have too |
| 02:20.49 | angryadmin | any project memebers around right now? |
| 02:20.57 | ansong | Azar, Re: "this brings me memories : < j1b> kdm users wear black turtlenecks. discus...." /jk |
| 02:21.02 | hit | how to get libc6 and libxrender1 ,both is the latest stable release? |
| 02:21.04 | markybob | m1ke_l, you suck at googling. i found it in two seconds. http://monitors.alege.net/Sun-GDM5010PT-21-inCRT-Conventional-Monitor.html |
| 02:21.06 | Azar | :) |
| 02:21.08 | dvs | angryadmin: always... but not me! |
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| 02:21.27 | Azar | every project members run, an angry admin is here |
| 02:21.35 | sdvsdg | i see the id output but what am i looking for? |
| 02:21.42 | markybob | sdvsdg, uid |
| 02:21.43 | angryadmin | Azar, not really angry. Just slightly miffed |
| 02:21.48 | kspath | markybob: maybe m1ke_l was oggling rather than googling |
| 02:21.58 | sdvsdg | uid=1000(birdmw) gid=1000(birdmw) ... |
| 02:22.01 | Azar | angryadmin: usually people come angry here... |
| 02:22.19 | m1ke_l | sweeeet! |
| 02:22.23 | m1ke_l | thanks markybob |
| 02:22.28 | m1ke_l | my googling sucks. |
| 02:22.29 | Azar | angryadmin: you could look at contact info on debian website, no project members here |
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| 02:22.52 | m1ke_l | what did you google for anyway? |
| 02:23.03 | markybob | vertical horizontal gdm-5010pt monitor |
| 02:23.16 | kspath | I can not imagine what ANY admin as to do with debian project members but oh well... |
| 02:23.20 | hit | only root can access ntfs?? |
| 02:23.34 | dvs | hit: No, it's the way you mounted it |
| 02:23.35 | tw-nym | mount has arguments where you can set the access permisisons |
| 02:23.48 | m1ke_l | cool...lets seee if they were right... |
| 02:23.51 | angryadmin | Azar, yeah. I used to be part of the project and wanted back in after being gone for a few years |
| 02:24.28 | sdvsdg | id returns uid=1000(birdmw) gid=1000(birdmw)... am i root? |
| 02:24.34 | markybob | no |
| 02:24.36 | hit | as a common account mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c |
| 02:24.53 | hit | as root mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c |
| 02:24.53 | Azar | angryadmin: I just hang out in here, but I never met a project member, I assume they would not advertise that |
| 02:25.01 | sdvsdg | then why doesnt startx work |
| 02:25.05 | hit | but a common user can not access |
| 02:25.27 | tw-nym | hit: use mount's -o options. Check the manual for ntfs's specific options. |
| 02:25.40 | hit | ok |
| 02:25.43 | tw-nym | probably something like umask=022 or something |
| 02:26.13 | sdvsdg | if i am not root and i still get "/root/.xsession" file, no "/root/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting." from trying startx... what is wrong? |
| 02:26.28 | markybob | sdvsdg, what's your user name? |
| 02:26.34 | Azar | sdvsdg: X in root is forbidden |
| 02:26.45 | Azar | basic hygiene |
| 02:27.18 | Azar | ah non root |
| 02:27.30 | markybob | sdvsdg, c'mon. you know your username, right? shouldnt have to think too much about that one :) |
| 02:27.59 | tw-nym | sdvsdg: what is your $home variable set to? Did you su from root w/o login? |
| 02:28.02 | Azar | sdvsdg: well, see what you have: what debian version, what kernel version, do you have X ? do you have your video driver installed, did you configured your X ? |
| 02:28.12 | Jambon | when i try to burn a cd image I get this message "The mount point (e.g. /mnt/cdrom) for the writing device could not be obtained. Please check that the writing device has an entry in /etc/fstab and then go to preferences and rescan for devices." any ideas? |
| 02:28.39 | markybob | i guess he doesnt feel like answer our questions. oh well |
| 02:28.56 | tw-nym | Or figured it out on his own. |
| 02:29.05 | Coweater | Jambon: did you create the line in fstab? |
| 02:29.10 | Azar | Jambon: in Debian Sarge /etc/fstab should have /media/cdrom pointing at /dev/hdc |
| 02:29.33 | Jambon | /dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 02:29.38 | Jambon | that's the fstab line i have |
| 02:29.41 | Jambon | and it's debian etch |
| 02:29.54 | Azar | ouch! etch... |
| 02:30.23 | SerajewelKS | Azar: don't knock etch! |
| 02:30.32 | Azar | SerajewelKS: etch frightens me |
| 02:30.39 | Coweater | why is it asking for a mount point to burn a cd? |
| 02:30.45 | azeem | 7w 54 |
| 02:30.47 | Jambon | you know, I have no clue |
| 02:30.49 | azeem | blah |
| 02:30.53 | Jambon | i never do |
| 02:30.54 | Coweater | it should just use the device |
| 02:31.04 | SerajewelKS | Azar: etch is the bomb |
| 02:31.10 | zinx | Coweater: maybe it's UDF |
| 02:31.20 | markybob | SerajewelKS, seriously...geeks dont use that kind of language |
| 02:31.29 | Azar | :) SerajewelKS I take my time in waiting my turn to get burned but not quite now |
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| 02:31.55 | SerajewelKS | markybob: maybe i'm not a geek! |
| 02:32.14 | markybob | SerajewelKS, then i think you're in the wrong channel |
| 02:32.17 | markybob | SerajewelKS, :) |
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| 02:32.26 | SerajewelKS | markybob: yeah, well... phoo |
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| 02:33.00 | SerajewelKS | Azar: x.org 6.9 + kde 3.5 = ;D |
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| 02:33.39 | hit | how to use konqueror as root? |
| 02:33.49 | sdvsdg | markybob my username is birdmw |
| 02:33.49 | SerajewelKS | hit: you don't |
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| 02:34.02 | hit | i can not? |
| 02:34.05 | Azar | SerajewelKS: memories: < j1> anyone have a list of gooder suppositories for downloading some good stuffs |
| 02:34.06 | Jambon | how come the help stopped at "ewwww, etch"? |
| 02:34.19 | SerajewelKS | hit: you can, but you don't want to |
| 02:34.22 | Azar | SerajewelKS: wow you are the bomb |
| 02:34.25 | Jambon | Azar, hahaha |
| 02:34.28 | SerajewelKS | Azar: =) |
| 02:34.40 | markybob | sdvsdg, "su - birdmw" then try again |
| 02:34.55 | hit | Serajewelks tell me how to please |
| 02:35.42 | SerajewelKS | hit: no. you will fuck up your system. |
| 02:36.00 | Azar | SerajewelKS: unfortunately I am a simplist, hard to convert myself to using kde or gnome. My desktop feels clean and peaceful, my system breathes |
| 02:36.13 | SerajewelKS | Azar: as does mine |
| 02:36.27 | sdvsdg | markybob: I did that but the command prompt remained the same and the same error came up "/root/.xsession" file, no "/root/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting.". I am fairly sure now that it is not a root/user error I must not have installed gnome |
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| 02:36.38 | sdvsdg | how do i install gnome? (sorry for wasting space) |
| 02:36.41 | SerajewelKS | Azar: i can run KDE, OpenOffice, and Firefox comfortably with 512mb ram |
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| 02:36.46 | hit | Serajewelks damn how do you know? |
| 02:37.21 | elnovato | hit: you need to destroy 2 or 3 computers to undestand how linux works |
| 02:37.29 | SerajewelKS | hit: because you asked how to do it. if you don't know how to run GUI file managers as root, then you shouldn't be. get familiar with the commandline tools for navication and move/copy, and use those as root. |
| 02:37.31 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I do not know how much ram I use, but I use openbox, openoffice, xmms, games, gkrellm, irssi, firefox, with no problem |
| 02:37.48 | SerajewelKS | Azar: heh.. irssi... yeah i bet that rapes the memory =) |
| 02:38.01 | SerajewelKS | elnovato: no |
| 02:38.04 | hit | Serajewelks all right heh .. |
| 02:38.27 | SerajewelKS | hit: when your root file manager looks like your user file manager, you *will* accidentally delete a system file |
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| 02:39.03 | SerajewelKS | hit: plus you don't want buggy software (GUI software is buggy by definition) running as root. if it craps out and takes half your system with it, have fun recovering. |
| 02:39.36 | elnovato | i think hit wants something similar es windows explorer |
| 02:39.50 | hit | heh.. |
| 02:40.00 | Azar | SerajewelKS: 477292k mem used as we speak |
| 02:40.11 | tw-nym | Yay irssi. |
| 02:40.16 | Azar | the most memory is xfree with 5.4% |
| 02:40.25 | SerajewelKS | Azar: i would be using xfce4 of course, if it worked well at all |
| 02:40.32 | SerajewelKS | Azar: last time i tried it, it had problems |
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| 02:40.55 | hit | i am a fresh man |
| 02:41.06 | Azar | SerajewelKS: how cool do you feel using untested or half tested software? |
| 02:41.17 | SerajewelKS | hit: if you mean freshman as in someone attending college for the first year, i am too |
| 02:41.19 | hit | and my english is too pool |
| 02:41.26 | dvs | Alright! Let's start hazing! |
| 02:41.34 | myst-dragon | I have a ide cdrom that the kernel says lives at hdc, but I have nothing in /dev related to the cdrom (i.e. no /dev/hdc, no /dev/cdrom). I'm using testing, and my goal is to play an audio cd |
| 02:41.41 | elnovato | dang , the tv sucks at friday night |
| 02:41.45 | SerajewelKS | Azar: slightly less cool than i feel using new software that is well tested and works |
| 02:42.05 | hit | Serajewelks: i mean i use debian a short time |
| 02:42.06 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I was talking security-wise |
| 02:42.17 | dvs | myst-dragon: Try running "MAKEDEF hd" in /dev as root |
| 02:42.19 | SerajewelKS | Azar: then very un-cool |
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| 02:42.28 | dvs | unless you're running udev |
| 02:42.31 | SerajewelKS | hit: ah |
| 02:42.41 | SerajewelKS | hit: then you definately don't want to run gui stuff as root |
| 02:42.50 | myst-dragon | dvs: do you mean MAKEDEV? |
| 02:42.59 | dvs | myst-dragon: Yes, that |
| 02:43.06 | hit | Serajewelks: yes ofcourse you are right |
| 02:43.40 | hit | Serajewelks: ps i have been in college 4 years |
| 02:43.54 | sdvsdg | what is the fet-get command to install gnome? |
| 02:44.01 | hit | Serajewelks: can you understand me ? |
| 02:44.01 | SerajewelKS | !install gnome |
| 02:44.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 02:44.08 | SerajewelKS | hit: so you are a senior? |
| 02:44.13 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: dpkg ^^^ |
| 02:44.23 | sdvsdg | kk thz |
| 02:44.25 | hit | Serajewelks: true |
| 02:44.51 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: install gnome =~ s/^/<reply> / |
| 02:44.52 | dpkg | SerajewelKS: that doesn't contain '^' |
| 02:44.53 | Azar | hmm I was expecting to see /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom iso 9660 ro,user,noauto ---> /dev/htc in my fstab... hmm I wonder why not |
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| 02:45.02 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: install gnome =~ s/to install/<reply> To install/ |
| 02:45.02 | dpkg | OK, SerajewelKS |
| 02:45.12 | dvs | Azar: iso 9660 should be one word |
| 02:45.16 | myst-dragon | dvs: MAKEDEV runs, but did not create the devices |
| 02:45.30 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: dpkg -l udev | tail -1 |
| 02:45.31 | Azar | dvs, sorrry yeah is... |
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| 02:45.43 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: and paste the line you get |
| 02:45.53 | sdvsdg | yesss. THANKS BITCHESYOU GUYUS ROCK! |
| 02:46.13 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS: ii udev 0.084-3 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
| 02:46.19 | dvs | myst-dragon: modprobe ide-cd |
| 02:46.31 | SerajewelKS | this is why udev is evil =/ |
| 02:46.43 | dvs | SerajewelKS: not for me! |
| 02:46.57 | SerajewelKS | dvs: you are special |
| 02:47.06 | dvs | SerajewelKS: Yup. ;-) |
| 02:47.15 | SerajewelKS | i am afraid to move to udev myself |
| 02:47.31 | dvs | SerajewelKS: It's not for everyone. That's for sure. |
| 02:47.56 | SerajewelKS | dvs: only special people |
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| 02:48.31 | Azar | ok I keep hearing about it, what is udev? |
| 02:48.35 | dvs | !udev |
| 02:48.36 | dpkg | udev is probably at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 02:49.04 | Azar | ah , guru tools |
| 02:49.17 | tw-nym | Not really, it's just a little flakey. |
| 02:49.20 | myst-dragon | dvs: d'oh! I missed an option in my last kernel compile. Sorry to waste your time. |
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| 02:49.48 | dvs | mikey! |
| 02:49.53 | mfrisch | yo |
| 02:50.03 | dvs | he like it! |
| 02:50.09 | dvs | likes* |
| 02:50.09 | mfrisch | allways |
| 02:50.18 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: don't compile the kernel unless you *HAVE* to |
| 02:50.18 | Woosta | How do I know what (or if a) sound device type is configured? |
| 02:50.36 | dvs | Woosta: lsmod |
| 02:50.42 | mfrisch | Woosta if the sound works its set up |
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| 02:51.04 | Woosta | mfrisch: it doesn't .. which is why I'm wondering :) |
| 02:51.21 | mfrisch | Woosta you using alsa |
| 02:51.22 | Woosta | dvs: thanks .. soundcore: ... snd,ymfpci |
| 02:51.26 | Woosta | hehe |
| 02:51.36 | Azar | Woosta find out what sound card type you are using: then find its module name. |
| 02:51.38 | dvs | Woosta: snd_ymfpci ? |
| 02:51.39 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS: ok. Just have to do a module compile I assume |
| 02:51.51 | Woosta | dvs: it's a yamaha sound card .. |
| 02:51.59 | mfrisch | dvs yamaha maybe? |
| 02:52.00 | witless | when using vim inside screen, ctrl-left and ctrl-right put 5D and 5C in the file i'm editing instead of moving the cursor left/right one word. any idea how to fix? |
| 02:52.02 | Azar | dvs sounds like a yamaha thingie |
| 02:52.07 | Woosta | but grepping lsmod for snd shows it might be oss |
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| 02:52.15 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS: I usually build a monolithic kernel with the drivers I want in |
| 02:52.25 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: every module you should need comes with the debian stock kernel |
| 02:52.25 | dvs | Woosta: If it doesn't start with snd_ it's not ALSA |
| 02:52.26 | Woosta | snd_pcm ... snd_pcm_oss,snd_ymf_pci |
| 02:52.26 | Azar | witless, play with "vimtutor" is fun and you learn lots |
| 02:52.34 | mfrisch | witless are you in edit mode |
| 02:52.34 | dvs | Woosta: It's ALSA |
| 02:52.35 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: if you need others they can usually be installed with module-assistant |
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| 02:52.41 | SerajewelKS | !debian kernel image |
| 02:52.41 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 02:52.44 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: ^^^ |
| 02:52.44 | witless | mfrisch: yes |
| 02:53.10 | mfrisch | witless hit esc then try to move around |
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| 02:53.27 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS: That's news to me. I've been building my own kernels for about 4 years now |
| 02:53.28 | Woosta | OK, ok .. so how come there's oss in my lsmod, but no alsa? And there's no file on my hdd with 'alsa' in the name .. |
| 02:53.42 | Azar | Woosta: default by installation |
| 02:53.44 | sdvsdg | installing gnome... do i want to make cdrecord SUID? |
| 02:53.52 | mfrisch | sdvsdg yes |
| 02:53.55 | bbrazil | sdvsdg: probably |
| 02:54.06 | Woosta | Hmmm .. ok .. |
| 02:54.11 | Azar | !alsa one-liner |
| 02:54.12 | dpkg | i guess alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 02:54.40 | Woosta | thanks :) |
| 02:54.50 | sdvsdg | daemon's dsp wrapper: auto, esddsp, artsdsp, rplaydsp, or non? (none is deffault) |
| 02:55.11 | Azar | Woosta: , after that add your username to audio group: adduser Woosta audio and instruct your media player to use ALSA instead of OSS |
| 02:55.13 | mfrisch | sdvsdg none, unless you get no sound |
| 02:55.24 | SerajewelKS | myst-dragon: the only reason you need to build your kernel are if you need to apply a patch to the kernel or you need a small kernel for an embedded system |
| 02:55.44 | Woosta | Azar and everyone else .. thanks for being so helpful! I can't imagine trying to find this sort of information for windows :) |
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| 02:55.57 | Azar | hiccup |
| 02:56.12 | mfrisch | Woosta ;-) |
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| 02:56.43 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS: So... I've been living a lie? *sigh* |
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| 02:58.06 | tw-nym | Spooky, evil kernel developers... always compiling their kernels... |
| 02:58.08 | mfrisch | myst-dragon there is a good kernel guide for freebsd, basically it tells you good guidelines to follow, basically change only what is needed. |
| 02:58.12 | hit | where to get mplayer? |
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| 02:58.20 | markybob | !marillat |
| 02:58.20 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
| 02:59.25 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: hmm. All this time I was building kernels with everything removed, aside from the drivers I needed just for my hardware |
| 03:00.08 | mfrisch | myst-dragon well I have gone that route too, thinking it would be leaner and meaner, that not true. |
| 03:00.55 | mfrisch | myst-dragon a stock kernel is not as bloated as you think |
| 03:01.05 | aidan | if I wanted to remove X, what package would I remove? |
| 03:01.11 | aidan | and is it safe? |
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| 03:01.43 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I wish I knew this for the past four years |
| 03:01.54 | mfrisch | aidan apt-get remove xserver-xfree86 and yes go for it |
| 03:01.55 | markybob | aidan, you could try apt-get remove libx11-6 |
| 03:02.08 | tw-nym | It probably saves you a few megs from modules you don't build. |
| 03:02.13 | Woosta | No sound .. made sure everything in alsamixer was up and unmuted .. mpg321 is playing with -oalsa and I'm getting nothing still |
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| 03:02.38 | markybob | aidan, there's no need to keep gui apps if you dont have x, so i suggest you do it my way instead of mfrisch's |
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| 03:03.34 | mfrisch | markybob I run gcombust through my server and it doesn't have |
| 03:03.34 | mfrisch | X |
| 03:03.37 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: Well... Cool. thanks for letting me know. I only recently came across that idea from FreeBSD's standpoint |
| 03:03.56 | mfrisch | myst-dragon cool |
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| 03:05.03 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I'd play with it more, but I prefer Debian. |
| 03:05.03 | tyranix | myst-dragon: It's also usually more stable to keep with Debian stock kernels. Just look at OpenBSD for an example of this. No developer will give you the time of the day if you're not running GENERIC. It's too easy to alter something and they'll track down some dead end. |
| 03:05.06 | beered | is it possible to loop xine movies? |
| 03:05.15 | Woosta | beered: it's in the playlist window |
| 03:05.29 | tyranix | more people using your configuration = less hassle |
| 03:05.40 | beered | Woosta: I can't see it. |
| 03:05.44 | mfrisch | myst-dragon its worth it for me, I have been using Debian since 2001 |
| 03:07.04 | aidan | libsm6, libx11-6, libxext6, libxpm4, xfree86-common, xlibs-data are still there, markybob. Safe to remove them also? |
| 03:07.13 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I cut my teeth with Debian in 1999, and only started doing my own kernels in 2001 |
| 03:07.35 | markybob | aidan, yes |
| 03:07.48 | Woosta | beered: I don't have it installed right now, but that's where I ended up finding it lsat time |
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| 03:08.31 | myst-dragon | tyranix: that does make sense. It'll certainly get my family from cracking jokes about having to recompile everytime I replace a piece of hardware. |
| 03:08.34 | beered | Woosta: I looked and looked. It's not there. Not in xine .99.3 |
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| 03:09.27 | Woosta | beered: then I can't help sorry |
| 03:09.38 | mfrisch | myst-dragon I played with RH and was tired of it not working, Debian was just released and I haven't looked back. I run amd-64 at home and would not even try a compile yet. |
| 03:09.40 | crschmidt | Hi. I run a debian sarge system, and temporarily added a testing repostiory. Unfortunately, I installed a new libc6 from the testing repository. |
| 03:09.47 | crschmidt | It seems now that my ssh server is refusing new connections. |
| 03:09.53 | crschmidt | I'm still connected under an old open connection. |
| 03:10.01 | crschmidt | But I'm trying to figure out how to undo the damage I've done. |
| 03:10.07 | mfrisch | crschmidt go all the way or none at all |
| 03:10.15 | cafuego | crschmidt: force downgrade the libc6, reload the ssh, see if it'll connect. |
| 03:10.24 | crschmidt | mfrisch: right. I know I made a stupid mistake. |
| 03:10.25 | tyranix | beered: xine --loop=[loop|repeat|shuffle|shuffle+] will loop it. |
| 03:10.32 | crschmidt | mfrisch: just didn't realize how stupid right away. |
| 03:10.41 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I had similar problems with RH when I tried it. I used it for about 6 months before I gave up on it and came back. I did similar with Gentoo about a year ago. |
| 03:10.42 | cafuego | crschmidt: Note that downgrading libc6 will probably also delete whatever required it that you installed by hand. |
| 03:10.42 | crschmidt | cafuego: 'force the downgrade' is the step i can't figure out |
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| 03:11.02 | cafuego | !info libc6 sarge |
| 03:11.05 | crschmidt | cafuego: that's absolutely fine. I want a working system |
| 03:11.14 | Woosta | If I stopped an upgrade-dist halfway through (it gave me the option of stopping X or stopping the install so I stopped the install to move to console) how can I get back into the configuration? |
| 03:11.17 | crschmidt | Not aa newer broken one. |
| 03:11.18 | mfrisch | myst-dragon yea gentoo had its 15 minutes. |
| 03:11.47 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | anybody here familiar with lftp? |
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| 03:11.55 | cafuego | Woosta: dpkg --configure -a |
| 03:11.57 | crschmidt | !info libc6 sarge |
| 03:11.57 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I wasn't impressed with compiling everything. |
| 03:11.57 | cafuego | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: yah |
| 03:12.03 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
| 03:12.16 | cafuego | crschmidt: sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 03:12.17 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | do you know how to login with it on an ftp server that requires AUTH TSL ? |
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| 03:12.25 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I figured I wasted more time compiling crap than actually running my computer |
| 03:12.29 | cafuego | crschmidt: That will MAKE it install the sarge version. |
| 03:12.30 | tw-nym | TLS? |
| 03:12.34 | mfrisch | myst-dragon well everything can sound good once |
| 03:12.42 | beered | tyranix: nope. that doesn't work. |
| 03:12.44 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
| 03:12.48 | cafuego | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: No idea |
| 03:12.52 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: unfortunate, but true =) |
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| 03:13.10 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tw-nym indeed tls |
| 03:13.13 | crschmidt | cafuego: erg. it wants to remove about 200 packages due to the downgrade :/ |
| 03:13.30 | crschmidt | i only installed about 4 from testing |
| 03:13.37 | aidan | markybob: awesome thanks |
| 03:13.54 | crschmidt | so i'm almost positive the others work with libc6=2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 03:14.00 | beered | tyranix: 'xine --loop test.mpg' work only from command line. Isn't there a config file or something to setup xine's default behaviour? |
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| 03:14.26 | tw-nym | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: "set ftp:ssl-force true" ? |
| 03:14.43 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: are you using debian's amd-64 port, or just staying with i386 for the time being? |
| 03:14.55 | tw-nym | I can't remember the exact function name. |
| 03:14.56 | crschmidt | cafuego: Is there any way to tell it to just downgrade libc1.6 and fuck the rest of the package management system? |
| 03:15.01 | crschmidt | er, libc6 |
| 03:15.15 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tw-nym i did that, i logged in do ls, then it moves but sais retry (cant see error..) |
| 03:15.27 | cafuego | crschmidt: Yes, but I thought you wanted to FIX the problems...? |
| 03:15.35 | tw-nym | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: Tried turning off passive? |
| 03:15.44 | tw-nym | Or maybe turning on passive... |
| 03:15.52 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | not yet i'm new to this client |
| 03:15.56 | mfrisch | myst-dragon amd-64 sid and exept for ooo and abiword azeurus everything rocks and rolls @ |
| 03:16.04 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | can i let it be more verbose..? |
| 03:16.18 | cafuego | crschmidt: Can you check whether there's a ewer libc6 in the security repos? |
| 03:16.24 | mfrisch | myst-dragon I have been too lazy to set up chroots |
| 03:16.37 | tw-nym | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: I don't recall lftp having a verbose mode. |
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| 03:17.02 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I see. I'm probably going to stay with i386 testing, at least until amd64 is released to testing |
| 03:17.08 | crschmidt | cafuego: how would I check? packages.d.o? |
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| 03:17.34 | crschmidt | er, I guess not |
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| 03:18.25 | useruser | crschmidt: yes, man apt-get and/or dpkg and look for force |
| 03:18.26 | tw-nym | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: It does support tab completion though. Try "set ftp:<tab>" to see options. There are a few ssl related ones in there to try. |
| 03:18.35 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | k |
| 03:18.36 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | ty |
| 03:18.41 | mfrisch | myst-dragon qemu loves amd-64, there is testing but I need a newer kernel to get my hardware to work, amd-64 is going to be the official release next freeze |
| 03:18.58 | SerajewelKS | !ty |
| 03:18.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, ty is thank you, or cobb -- a baseball player, or the company that creates Beanie Babies(TM) |
| 03:19.01 | useruser | crschmidt: but generally if dpkg tells you you're about to break stuff and you ignore it, things end in tears |
| 03:19.10 | SerajewelKS | hah.. beanie babies =) |
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| 03:19.21 | cafuego | crschmidt: Check 'apt-cache policy libc6' |
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| 03:19.55 | crschmidt | hi jetscreamer |
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| 03:20.25 | crschmidt | cafuego: only lists 2.3.2.ds1-22 and 2.3.5-13 |
| 03:20.33 | crschmidt | sigh. such a moron. |
| 03:20.39 | crschmidt | (me, not any of you) |
| 03:21.15 | mfrisch | crschmidt we all done worse, the key is not to do it again |
| 03:21.17 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I was under the impression that amd64 hasn't yet become an official debian port yet |
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| 03:22.17 | mfrisch | myst-dragon its not but the next freeze its the going to be the main release, there is sid, testing, sarge, they just haven |
| 03:22.26 | mfrisch | been released |
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| 03:24.44 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: I think understand what you're saying |
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| 03:25.31 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tw-nym lftp can be verbose |
| 03:25.38 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | debug <level> :D |
| 03:25.41 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | just a tip :) |
| 03:25.43 | tw-nym | Oh? Sweet. |
| 03:25.44 | tw-nym | Thanks. |
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| 03:26.22 | tyranix | beered: I looked at ~/.xine/config and it doesn't support looping there. You could always use a shell alias. Any reason you're using xine? I have better luck with vlc (and it supports looping from the config). |
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| 03:27.41 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: well, I had better undo my kernel error and get this thing working |
| 03:27.50 | myst-dragon | mfrisch: Thanks for your help |
| 03:27.54 | mfrisch | myst-dragon yup ;-) |
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| 03:29.20 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | tw-nym now that that problem is solved i've qot a quick other question |
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| 03:29.37 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | i'm now logged in, can i download things thrue a list ? |
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| 03:29.53 | tw-nym | I'm not sure what you're asking. |
| 03:29.58 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | then i can make an tool to convert my que on my local pc to an script for lftp |
| 03:30.08 | sdvsdg | Okay, thank you all so much for helping me get linux and gnome working...just one more question... What do I do with it? :) |
| 03:30.14 | Jambon | anyone know what this error mean in gnomebaker: The mount point (e.g. /mnt/cdrom) for the writing device could not be obtained. Please check that the writing device has an entry in /etc/fstab and then go to preferences and rescan for devices. |
| 03:30.20 | Padnah | I have force uninstalled a package transfig. Now I cannot login to my GUI. How do I solve this problem? |
| 03:30.33 | WhiteNoise | I'm having a hard time finding docs to explain what 'p' 'v' etc in the left column mean in the results of an aptitude search. Can someone direct me to the right docs (or tell me what they mean) |
| 03:30.42 | sdvsdg | err... how do i go online with debian+gnome |
| 03:30.59 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | LOL so many questions... |
| 03:31.11 | tw-nym | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: Can't say I know. I've never done it before. |
| 03:31.16 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | sdvsdg "go online"... configure your network.. |
| 03:31.22 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | ok thnx anyway tw-nym :) |
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| 03:33.37 | sdvsdg | I figured my network was already config'd? can i do it through gnome? |
| 03:33.53 | angryadmin | sdvsdg, can you ping stuff or ftp? |
| 03:33.55 | tyranix | WhiteNoise: p = purge (default state). v = virtual package. In aptitude type '?' and then scroll down to the bottom. (Yes, it would be nice to have that info in the man page). |
| 03:34.16 | WhiteNoise | tyranix, thanks! |
| 03:34.33 | dondelelcaro | that information is actually in the manual... but not the manpage. |
| 03:34.43 | ice_1963 | hello |
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| 03:36.06 | tyranix | dondelelcaro: You mean in the HTML manual? Ick. :) I don't like GNU info manuals except in the case of gcc or something where it's so huge it makes sense to split it up. |
| 03:36.24 | PsySine | hi i upgraded to etch from a very clean sarge... and now i get errors about /lib/udev/udev_run_hotplugd and /lib/udev/udev_run_devd while the kernel boots |
| 03:36.48 | dondelelcaro | tyranix: yes; and yes, the manual is far to big for a simple manpage. |
| 03:37.56 | ice_1963 | i have a question is there a cd image for contrib-non-free that i can download so will have it ? |
| 03:38.07 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: no. |
| 03:38.09 | PsySine | something about udev_event[nnnn] run program bla bla bla |
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| 03:46.47 | jshriver | good evening |
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| 03:47.09 | centrx | sdfsdf |
| 03:47.19 | jshriver | would anyone help me to setup a printer? nothing special just a since "hello world" print over parallel will suffice, |
| 03:47.20 | seanmccann | I rented a server and have it all setup except I can only acess apache from the wierd adderess that my isp gave me (example.server.exampleisp.com) how can I make it subdomain.mydomain.com? |
| 03:48.00 | jshriver | register a domain name, and see if your ISP will let you do vhosting |
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| 03:48.15 | jshriver | in reverse order |
| 03:48.28 | seanmccann | I have full root access and I already have the domain |
| 03:48.30 | jshriver | if you are allowed/can, then register the domain name with the ip of the server |
| 03:48.44 | seanmccann | I have set the subdomain to that appropriate ip adderess |
| 03:48.50 | sparr | how can i get older nvidia drivers as debian packages? |
| 03:48.55 | seanmccann | All I need to do is set it up on the server |
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| 03:49.13 | jshriver | apt-get install apache it will bind to port 80 and when you go to your address it should load |
| 03:49.15 | codept | can debian 32bit be installed on to 64bit machine? |
| 03:49.15 | tw-nym | Oh, vhost in apache. |
| 03:49.21 | jshriver | mydomain.com will load that page |
| 03:49.28 | jshriver | codept, yes |
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| 03:49.37 | jshriver | and I believe you can do hybrids too... run both 32 and 64bit code |
| 03:49.38 | tw-nym | If you mean amd64, yes. |
| 03:49.42 | zebalin7 | beep |
| 03:49.51 | jshriver | anyone know how to setup a line printer? |
| 03:50.11 | tw-nym | seanmccann: look up the NamedVirtualHost directive in the httpd config file. |
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| 03:50.23 | jshriver | basic setup... I was given a NEC laser printer for free from work, but not sure if it works at all... if I can do a simple hello world print, then I can worry abot postscript etc later |
| 03:50.24 | mebaran151 | I can not seem to make my nforce4 ethernet nic function |
| 03:50.35 | seanmccann | Okay, thanks |
| 03:50.46 | codept | jshriver: i booted my debian cd1 on compaq laptop, it loads then goes blank. why? |
| 03:51.39 | jshriver | try ctrl-f1.. see if you get a prompt.. sound lke your drivers for X are messed up |
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| 03:52.23 | starfishy | jshriver: install cups |
| 03:52.32 | nomade | i am with problem in the wvdial it I dial but in the hour of logar it detaches somebody aid? |
| 03:52.34 | hanasaki | does debian work with the chips SiS 964/741? |
| 03:52.35 | jshriver | seanmccann, subdomans and domains are different... a domain points to a ip... a subdomain is just something configuered in apache to point to another directory |
| 03:52.41 | jshriver | starfishy, thanks installing now |
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| 03:53.20 | seanmccann | jshriver - No, you can point subdomains to different ip adderesses with dns |
| 03:53.21 | jshriver | hanasaki, I'm using a sis chipset now... not sure about 964 though, check the kernel source it should be in there :) |
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| 03:53.29 | jshriver | seanmccann, hrm didnt know that.. |
| 03:53.54 | nomade | i am with problem in the wvdial it I dial but in the hour of logar it detaches somebody aid? |
| 03:54.03 | Kimy | hi i tryed to run apt-get update and this problem showed up: W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 03:54.20 | jshriver | brb |
| 03:54.21 | hanasaki | jshriver.. anyway i can find out for sure? i have been websearching for about an hr :( i need ot replace a system quick that was a soyo dragon ultra platinbum kt600 |
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| 03:54.36 | seanmccann | jshriver: yes thats why different servers are like s1.google.com, s2.google.com, toronto,google.com, newyork.google.com |
| 03:55.05 | jshriver | check the apache.conf then.. or httpd.conf then.. I havent messed with it much so not sure how to help your problem |
| 03:55.23 | sparr | I install my nvidia drivers from the debian source packages. The latest version is borked, how can I downgrade to a specific version? |
| 03:55.52 | chealer | sparr: which version? |
| 03:55.59 | crschmidt | restarting ssh fixed my problem. I'll save the libc6 downgrade for another day. |
| 03:56.01 | hanasaki | jshr.. what chips do u have? |
| 03:56.07 | sparr | chealer: ive got 8178, i want 8174 |
| 03:56.24 | jshriver | looks like sis 650 judging from lspci |
| 03:56.32 | chealer | sparr: 8178 is borked?? |
| 03:56.33 | crschmidt | cafuego: thanks for your help. |
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| 03:56.37 | jshriver | hrm installed cups, created a test file with hello world.. and tried lpr |
| 03:56.47 | jshriver | lpq shows it listed but nothing is printing hrm... |
| 03:57.04 | sparr | chealer: most of my 3d games just close after 5-10 minutes |
| 03:57.15 | sparr | no crash, they just go poof |
| 03:57.35 | jshriver | maybe I have the wrong cable... it has the centronix? connectot and a regular db25 connector.. wonder if that's just for passthru or something |
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| 03:57.50 | jshriver | just connected to the db25 connect an not the centronix |
| 03:57.51 | emdash | i'm trying to build a kernel package under sarge |
| 03:57.57 | emdash | and i'm getting errors related to debian/changelog |
| 03:58.06 | chealer | sparr: oh, you think it's unreliable for you. did you check for snapshots? |
| 03:58.23 | sparr | chealer: snapshots? |
| 03:58.27 | emdash | first I updated my revision, and it griped about the version in debian/changelog being different |
| 03:58.32 | chealer | !tell sparr about snapshot |
| 03:58.35 | emdash | so i nuked debian/changelog |
| 03:58.43 | emdash | and now it gripes that it can't find the file |
| 03:58.45 | sparr | chealer: my X server died when a game died too |
| 03:58.47 | emdash | so do i have to make clean now? |
| 03:58.57 | SerajewelKS | sparr: no problems with 8178 here |
| 03:59.07 | SerajewelKS | sparr: did you enable xcomposite? |
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| 03:59.34 | Daverag | Can anyone tell me why I keep installing the fglrx kernel module 8.22.5 but it keeps loading the 8.21.7 |
| 03:59.38 | sdvsdg | how do i set up my network card in linux (w/gnome)? |
| 03:59.47 | sparr | SerajewelKS: no |
| 04:00.04 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: you don't, you edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:00.18 | sparr | SerajewelKS: just the usual apt-get upgrade, reboot, x wont start, rebuild nvidia driver |
| 04:00.31 | sdvsdg | serajewl: thx |
| 04:00.51 | chealer | sparr: that sounds usual even with 7174 |
| 04:00.56 | SerajewelKS | sparr: weird... anywho X crashed often when i enabled composite. turned it off and i've run X for days with no problems. |
| 04:01.02 | jshriver | perhaps a silly question: |
| 04:01.02 | nomade | how list modules built in ? |
| 04:01.08 | sdvsdg | im sick of gnome how do i get back to comand prompt |
| 04:01.30 | jshriver | if a printer has both the big centronix or whatever port, and a db25 port.. can you use either? or is the db25 port for passthru only? |
| 04:01.31 | emdash | hurrrr |
| 04:01.32 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: tried KDE? |
| 04:01.34 | sparr | chealer: what? |
| 04:01.37 | jshriver | sdvsdg, ctrl-f1 |
| 04:01.40 | emdash | i tried make clean, and that didn't work |
| 04:01.47 | SerajewelKS | jshriver: +alt too |
| 04:01.48 | emdash | i tried nuking the debian directory |
| 04:01.53 | chealer | nomade: "built in kernel" means it's not a module |
| 04:01.54 | emdash | wtf is it doing |
| 04:02.07 | nomade | how list modules built in ? |
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| 04:02.10 | sdvsdg | serakewlKS: can you have both KDE and gnome? |
| 04:02.18 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: yes |
| 04:02.27 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: apt-get install kdebase |
| 04:02.51 | nomade | sdvsdg how list built in? |
| 04:03.01 | jshriver | hrm is foomatic only for network printers? trying foomatic-gui and it doest let me select a lpt printer only network |
| 04:03.01 | SerajewelKS | !tell nomade about repeat |
| 04:03.12 | chealer | sparr: I think there's a bug in 7174 that makes X crash very easily if a game crashes and lets X with a smaller resolution |
| 04:03.32 | nomade | any help? |
| 04:03.51 | SerajewelKS | nomade: why would you even need such a list |
| 04:03.53 | sdvsdg | I have kde installing now |
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| 04:04.12 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: when it's done, log out of gnome and pick 'KDE' in the session list before logging back in |
| 04:04.14 | sdvsdg | once KDE is done, should I run it with a type of startx? |
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| 04:04.36 | nomade | SerajewelKS i dont need of asks i need of asnewr |
| 04:04.48 | SerajewelKS | nomade: what is your native language |
| 04:04.55 | SerajewelKS | sdvsdg: you can use: xinit `which startkde` |
| 04:05.02 | sdvsdg | thank you |
| 04:05.14 | nomade | SerajewelKS i am newbie in english sorry |
| 04:05.20 | emdash | okay someone in here who understands make-kpkg |
| 04:05.20 | SerajewelKS | nomade: what is your native language |
| 04:05.22 | nomade | no understand |
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| 04:05.36 | zebalin7 | mhall: hey? How are you? |
| 04:05.46 | SerajewelKS | nomade: what language do you speak |
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| 04:06.03 | nomade | SerajewelKS why want know? |
| 04:06.16 | emdash | nomade: because there are other channels for different languages |
| 04:06.17 | SerajewelKS | nomade: so you can get better help |
| 04:06.31 | quitte_ | hi. im, having trouble getting snd-bt87x to work.btaudio worked for me - but as that isnt in debian kernels any more i want to switch |
| 04:06.53 | nomade | SerajewelKS in other channel dont have very peoples |
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| 04:07.18 | sparr | chealer: plausible, but i want 8174 |
| 04:07.28 | jshriver | what is the module name for lpr? |
| 04:07.30 | quitte_ | module loads but i dont get any message about it - nor do devices appear in /dev/snd |
| 04:07.36 | jshriver | I have it compiled as a module not sure if it's loaded |
| 04:07.37 | emdash | um |
| 04:07.38 | SerajewelKS | nomade: well you're going to have a rough time here, in all honesty, because we're going to be speaking fluent english and we won't be able to understand each other. |
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| 04:07.47 | emdash | quitte_: look for /dev/dsp2 |
| 04:07.52 | emdash | quitte_: or /dev/dsp1 |
| 04:07.59 | nomade | SerajewelKS ok |
| 04:08.05 | emdash | quitte_: i don't know what /dev/snd is |
| 04:08.10 | emdash | quitte_: but it's not that |
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| 04:08.12 | quitte_ | emdash: even with oss emulation they dont appear |
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| 04:08.42 | emdash | quitte_: what options are you passing to the btaudio modules |
| 04:08.45 | quitte_ | emdash: dev/snd is the the directory for alsa devices |
| 04:08.54 | quitte_ | emdash none |
| 04:09.06 | emdash | quitte_: perhaps you need to specify something else |
| 04:09.16 | SerajewelKS | !br |
| 04:09.16 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 04:09.18 | SerajewelKS | nomade: ^^ |
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| 04:09.40 | quitte_ | emdash: i want to use snd-bt87x - the alsa equivalent of btaudio |
| 04:09.41 | emdash | quitte_: what kernel are you running, anyways? |
| 04:09.46 | emdash | oh |
| 04:09.53 | chealer | sparr: 8174 is still between 7174 and 8178 |
| 04:09.56 | quitte_ | emdash: debian 2.6.15 k7 |
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| 04:10.21 | emdash | quitte_: the trouble is you're looking in the wrong place |
| 04:10.35 | quitte_ | #alsa? |
| 04:10.46 | emdash | quitte_: you need to find documentation for the bttv drivers |
| 04:10.56 | Boukensya | hey guys. I need help bad please.. I just did a new install of a linux hosting box (hosting webpages) and some reason when I go to the site it comes up with the webalizer stats instead of the site, I think the vhost are done properly |
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| 04:11.02 | emdash | quitte_: #debian is for debian-specific stuff |
| 04:11.03 | Boukensya | they were just transfered from the old hosting box |
| 04:11.27 | sparr | chealer: yes, but 8174 worked just fine for me. no crashes |
| 04:11.27 | quitte_ | emdash: guess what - i know that |
| 04:11.35 | SerajewelKS | emdash: the kernel *is* debian specific |
| 04:11.47 | quitte_ | emdash: and im having trouble with the debian kernel modules |
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| 04:12.52 | quitte_ | its not like i removed btaudio myself |
| 04:12.52 | Boukensya | I don't think it is with the vhost because it ask for a username and password just with the default ip address too |
| 04:13.03 | SerajewelKS | Boukensya: sounds like you want #apache |
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| 04:13.19 | Boukensya | cheers |
| 04:14.09 | jshriver | what is the port for lpt? /dev/? |
| 04:14.19 | quitte_ | jshriver: lp0 |
| 04:14.23 | jshriver | I wonder if I just cat a file to it if it would print |
| 04:14.30 | quitte_ | jshriver: yes |
| 04:14.47 | quitte_ | jshriver: unless your printer is stupid |
| 04:14.48 | shogunx | jshriver yes it will. |
| 04:14.55 | jshriver | hrm think I need to get a regular cable |
| 04:15.07 | jshriver | either it's broken or it needs a regular cable |
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| 04:15.22 | LinuxNIT | from inside ftp is there a way to findout how much room i have available to me on the server? |
| 04:15.35 | quitte_ | jshriver: or its a win printer that always needs drivers |
| 04:15.38 | emdash | quitte_: is building btaudio out of the question? |
| 04:15.51 | quitte_ | emdash: yes |
| 04:15.56 | jshriver | quitte_, or shogunx : if a printer has both db25 and the big port (centronix?) does it mean you can use either? or is the db25 for passthru? |
| 04:16.02 | aidan | ii kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on generic x86_64 systems |
| 04:16.03 | aidan | ii kernel-image-2.6.8-11-em64t 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on Intel EM64T SMP systems |
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| 04:16.08 | jshriver | it's a NEC SilentWriter 95f which has drivers in foomatic... |
| 04:16.12 | aidan | is it normal to have both of those images on a p4 machine? |
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| 04:16.31 | mebaran151 | my nforce4 nic will not work |
| 04:16.33 | mebaran151 | any ideas |
| 04:16.37 | mebaran151 | it does not dhcp |
| 04:16.47 | jshriver | compile the drivers for it? |
| 04:16.54 | mebaran151 | and I finally gave up and put it on static dhcp |
| 04:16.56 | jshriver | not sure what the module nae is |
| 04:16.56 | mebaran151 | no |
| 04:16.58 | mebaran151 | it has a driver |
| 04:17.00 | mebaran151 | eth0 is made |
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| 04:17.05 | mebaran151 | and ifconfig lists i |
| 04:17.10 | jshriver | and you can set it.. oh |
| 04:17.14 | jshriver | just wont poll dhcp? |
| 04:17.17 | jshriver | apt-get install pump |
| 04:17.19 | jshriver | pump -i eth0 |
| 04:17.21 | shogunx | jshriver not sure on that printer. try both. |
| 04:17.45 | jshriver | shogunx, ok... well right no Im just using a db25-db25 cable I happened to have.. will get the regular one tomorrow and see if that works.. |
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| 04:17.58 | mebaran151 | jshriver: I'd like to use a static ip |
| 04:18.06 | mebaran151 | I think I have interfaces written rightly |
| 04:18.18 | mebaran151 | but it can't even ping the router |
| 04:18.22 | jshriver | mebaran151, configure the dhcp server to set the ip based on your nic's MAC address |
| 04:18.28 | mebaran151 | yeah I could |
| 04:18.34 | shogunx | jshriver echo test > /dev/lp0 should make something happen. |
| 04:18.35 | mebaran151 | but why don't I just use static ip? |
| 04:18.39 | jshriver | mebaran151, hrm.. bad cable? |
| 04:18.47 | mebaran151 | maybe |
| 04:18.54 | mebaran151 | that's a good idea to test |
| 04:18.57 | jshriver | try another cable... |
| 04:19.00 | mebaran151 | I have another length |
| 04:19.02 | mebaran151 | let me try it |
| 04:19.03 | nomade | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.06 | jshriver | then try another port on the router/switch/hub |
| 04:19.12 | mebaran151 | I only have one router |
| 04:19.19 | mebaran151 | my Linksys WRT54gc |
| 04:19.22 | mebaran151 | it works with my other comp |
| 04:19.26 | F-Lelo | I have a DJ Agency wich has a website and I need to build a mailing list for it... people subscribe and confirm their email... I send them agency propaganda on it... How can I do it web-based so my hosting service support it? |
| 04:19.31 | emdash | quitte_: are you setting up some kind of pvr? |
| 04:19.33 | mebaran151 | that also has an nforce4 nic |
| 04:19.33 | jshriver | another port on the router... I've had individual ports go bad before |
| 04:20.06 | shogunx | F-Lelo mailman, man. |
| 04:20.11 | quitte_ | emdash: yes |
| 04:20.14 | jshriver | and try "pump -i eth0" just to see if it can get some kind of IP address... |
| 04:20.21 | F-Lelo | shogunx: is it web based?! |
| 04:20.29 | emdash | quitte_: mythv or freevo or what? |
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| 04:20.35 | quitte_ | emdash: myth |
| 04:20.37 | nomade | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.45 | jshriver | I have a wrt54gs and if I do ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.54 it wont work either... so try dhcp.. if you can get a connection |
| 04:20.47 | shogunx | it has a web subscribe/admin/etc interface. |
| 04:20.53 | jshriver | then you can configure it to set a static ip based on MAC |
| 04:20.56 | emdash | quitte_: i've been running that for a while |
| 04:21.00 | F-Lelo | shogunx: ok, cool, I'll try it |
| 04:21.06 | F-Lelo | but it can't be binary... otherwise I won't be able to run it |
| 04:21.14 | F-Lelo | I only have ftp access... and cpannel |
| 04:21.17 | jshriver | well im off take care :) |
| 04:21.22 | jshriver | cpanel is evil lol |
| 04:21.27 | jshriver | bbl |
| 04:21.31 | F-Lelo | hehehe |
| 04:21.36 | F-Lelo | ^^ |
| 04:21.49 | shogunx | F-Lelo you don't root access on the host your website is on? |
| 04:22.04 | F-Lelo | shogunx: of course not, mate... it's on a hosting company |
| 04:22.06 | F-Lelo | shogunx: :( |
| 04:22.31 | shogunx | F-Lelo all the hosting guys i've ever known give you a virtual host that you have root on. |
| 04:22.45 | quitte_ | emdash: and? |
| 04:22.51 | F-Lelo | shogunx: I never tried ssh.. I'll try |
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| 04:23.16 | shogunx | anyway, F-Lelo, you will need to tweak exim configurations and many other things you need root for to get mailman funtional. |
| 04:23.37 | emdash | quitte_: i dunno...i didn't know that it could record using alsa in the first place |
| 04:23.43 | F-Lelo | shogunx: so it won't work :/ |
| 04:23.47 | mebaran151 | jshriver, changed the cable |
| 04:23.49 | mebaran151 | and the port |
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| 04:24.14 | shogunx | not unless you can get your host admin to hook up some mailman for you, or you host you own site. |
| 04:24.16 | mebaran151 | but both work in winxp |
| 04:24.41 | mebaran151 | I haven't wiped xp yet because debian hasn't successfully worked |
| 04:24.55 | F-Lelo | shogunx: yeah =/ ... I saw one on freshmeat that I thought it would fit on my idea.. but... well, I'll give u the url wait |
| 04:25.05 | F-Lelo | shogunx: http://0xcc.net/quickml/index.html.en |
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| 04:25.46 | shogunx | http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html |
| 04:25.55 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | if i do apt-get install lftp i get lftp without ssl, how can i get it with ssl (not compile.. i dont want to compile) |
| 04:26.24 | shogunx | F-Lelo mailman is heavy duty. |
| 04:26.37 | F-Lelo | yeah but I'll need shell access ;~ |
| 04:27.20 | Daverag | Can anyone help me in installing the fglrx kernel module I'm going crazy with this, i can't get the module up to 8.22.5 |
| 04:27.25 | shogunx | F-Lelo you need root shell access. easier to host your site on your cable modem. |
| 04:27.34 | F-Lelo | shogunx: hahaha ;) |
| 04:27.43 | F-Lelo | shogunx: if I could... |
| 04:27.49 | shogunx | 1 less bill too. |
| 04:27.56 | shogunx | why cant you? |
| 04:28.05 | F-Lelo | shogunx: can't leave the pc on 24/7 |
| 04:28.08 | aidan | anyone? is it normal to have both amd and intel kernels? |
| 04:28.10 | quitte_ | emdash: oss support will be removed in 0.20 |
| 04:28.14 | F-Lelo | bitching mom and dad 24/7 |
| 04:28.15 | F-Lelo | hehehe |
| 04:28.25 | F-Lelo | I pay my bills but I live under their roof, so.... :/ |
| 04:28.37 | shogunx | F-Lelo so hide it in the attic. |
| 04:28.51 | F-Lelo | shogunx: the comp. would fry there... I'm from Brazil =) |
| 04:28.55 | F-Lelo | hot weather always hehehe |
| 04:28.57 | chealer | aidan: what does that mean? |
| 04:29.07 | liberty | give it a swamp cooler |
| 04:29.13 | aidan | ii kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on generic x86_64 systems |
| 04:29.14 | aidan | ii kernel-image-2.6.8-11-em64t 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on Intel EM64T SMP systems |
| 04:29.14 | F-Lelo | ahahaha |
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| 04:30.35 | black | somebody can help me to configure samba? |
| 04:30.37 | F-Lelo | shogunx: see if u think this can solve my prob.: http://freshmeat.net/projects/dada/ |
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| 04:30.53 | dabaR | !seen bob2 |
| 04:30.54 | dpkg | bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 65d 21h 25m 36s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'. |
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| 04:31.04 | aidan | chealer? |
| 04:31.10 | dabaR | Why is that guy never here again, any ideas? |
| 04:31.24 | markybob | check #ubuntu |
| 04:31.27 | dabaR | He won a life on the lottery. |
| 04:31.30 | dabaR | he is not there either. |
| 04:31.33 | black | I configure the samba, but no windows computer see the server |
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| 04:32.11 | shogunx | F-Lelo i've seen dada running on indymedia.org... its good for what it is, but not sure if it has a listserv feature. |
| 04:32.32 | F-Lelo | =/ |
| 04:32.34 | F-Lelo | damnnnn eehehehe |
| 04:32.41 | F-Lelo | shogunx: what about this one? |
| 04:32.42 | F-Lelo | http://freshmeat.net/projects/postlister/ |
| 04:32.56 | F-Lelo | some guy posted: [»] Excellent for small mailing lists. |
| 04:32.59 | F-Lelo | ^^ |
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| 04:33.53 | shogunx | F-Lelo if you can have a mysql database on your host, that will probably do the job. |
| 04:33.59 | F-Lelo | I can |
| 04:34.00 | F-Lelo | goooood \o/ |
| 04:34.01 | F-Lelo | ;) |
| 04:34.07 | F-Lelo | I'll try that then :D |
| 04:34.16 | chealer | aidan: what do you call an AMD kernel? |
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| 04:35.30 | aidan | chealer: oops, I misread the first as being AMD |
| 04:35.40 | aidan | do I need both the generic and the intel? |
| 04:36.13 | aidan | chealer: the first is called kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64 after all |
| 04:36.25 | chealer | aidan: you unlikely *need* two kernels |
| 04:36.38 | Daverag | Can anyone help me in installing the fglrx kernel module I'm going crazy with this, i can't get the module up to 8.22.5 |
| 04:36.48 | chealer | aidan: hehe, still wrong :) |
| 04:36.49 | aidan | is there any reason it would be there, chealer? |
| 04:36.54 | bucky | aidan, the generic x86_64 was your install kernel.. you probably upgraded to the EM64T |
| 04:36.59 | aidan | ah |
| 04:37.12 | ke6isf | !fglrx |
| 04:37.12 | dpkg | fglrx is, like, see firegl, or see ati drivers, or usually not worth the effort |
| 04:37.39 | Daverag | !fglrx |
| 04:37.39 | dpkg | somebody said fglrx was see firegl, or see ati drivers, or usually not worth the effort |
| 04:37.46 | ke6isf | *sigh* |
| 04:37.49 | Daverag | ah... |
| 04:37.50 | ke6isf | !tell Daverag -about msg the bot |
| 04:37.53 | Daverag | damn |
| 04:38.18 | aidan | bucky: so I can safely apt-get remove it? |
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| 04:38.35 | bucky | i wouldn't.. i like keeping it for a fall back |
| 04:38.45 | aidan | okay, even easier |
| 04:38.58 | bucky | aidan, why are you that short on hard drive space? |
| 04:39.02 | Jambon | uh, anyone care to compare freebsd to linux? |
| 04:39.17 | aidan | the other thing that is freaking me out is: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l returns 2 ... does that mean I have 2 cpus, or dual core, or what? |
| 04:39.29 | hatake_kakashi | Jambon: there's a site that compares the core of linux, fbsd and solaris, go google |
| 04:39.38 | chealer | Jambon: hasn't that already been done? |
| 04:39.44 | aidan | bucky: no, but I'm trying to ensure this box is really minimal ... I don't want things floating around unless I know they're there for a reason |
| 04:39.54 | bucky | aidan, that's the whole point of intel's hyperthreading marketing hype |
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| 04:41.01 | LinuxNIT | from inside ftp is there a way to findout how much room i have available to me on the server? |
| 04:41.14 | bucky | aidan, just for fun /exec -o cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep bogomips |
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| 04:41.21 | Jambon | i want to here it from you guys |
| 04:41.26 | Jambon | i've searched |
| 04:41.53 | ke6isf | Jambon: Linux and FreeBSD are different. EOL. |
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| 04:42.08 | Jambon | oooooh..REALLY? |
| 04:42.11 | ke6isf | Jambon: If I might ask, why are you asking? |
| 04:42.14 | tw-nym | No, he's kidding. |
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| 04:42.23 | Jambon | i had no clue |
| 04:42.33 | Daverag | installing the module in the kernel couldn't be that hard, what am I missing? I did everything I was supposed to with module-assistant |
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| 04:43.06 | hatake_kakashi | Jambon: google is your friend, don't take it here and troll. Its very different from the kernel already |
| 04:43.36 | Jambon | anyway, I'm asking because I've been wondering how the way linux operates (eg Macrokernel) compares to the way freebsd operates (microkernel) affects performance, security, driver writing etc |
| 04:43.50 | Jambon | and how easy it is to write programs for both |
| 04:43.59 | ke6isf | !fgi Jambon |
| 04:44.06 | ke6isf | dang. |
| 04:44.11 | ke6isf | !fgi |
| 04:44.11 | dpkg | hmm... fgi is http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ and see http://www.moule.org/images/image-medium.html#current=bart-704x528.jpg |
| 04:44.17 | ke6isf | Jambon: ^^ |
| 04:44.34 | elnovato | any website with internet resources? |
| 04:44.39 | Jambon | um |
| 04:44.39 | aidan | bucky: |
| 04:44.39 | aidan | # cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep bogomips |
| 04:44.39 | aidan | bogomips : 5914.62 |
| 04:44.40 | aidan | bogomips : 5996.54 |
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| 04:44.48 | Jambon | i've been trying to google it for a whle |
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| 04:44.56 | ke6isf | elnovato: ...wha? |
| 04:45.06 | dn4 | zip -r games/ games |
| 04:45.06 | dn4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:45.08 | aidan | doh. |
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| 04:45.19 | ke6isf | dn4: You're doing it backwards. |
| 04:45.21 | bucky | Jambon, here's the main difference... there are 770 people in this channel... and there are 30 people in #freebsdhelp |
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| 04:45.46 | Jambon | i know the difference in popularity |
| 04:45.52 | ke6isf | dn4: The command is 'zip -r games.zip games/'. |
| 04:45.53 | tw-nym | That could just mean more people have problems ;) |
| 04:45.56 | insta | Anyone know a client library to broadcast a stream to a ShoutCAST server? I'm not going to use XMMS |
| 04:46.00 | Jambon | and, for the most part, i know why |
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| 04:46.12 | bucky | Jambon, driver support? |
| 04:46.16 | Jambon | i was just curious as to your opinons |
| 04:46.23 | Jambon | i am NOT trolling |
| 04:46.27 | Chameleon22 | hi all |
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| 04:46.35 | chealer | tw-nym: who has no problem anyway? |
| 04:46.35 | tw-nym | insta: libshout? the darkice app, ices? |
| 04:46.37 | dn4 | ke6isf, woW thank you |
| 04:46.47 | insta | darkice? That a console or curses application? |
| 04:47.00 | tw-nym | chealer: Kidding =p Everyone comes across something they need a second opinion on eventually. |
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| 04:47.11 | Chameleon22 | to install unstable, can i install testing (from net install) and then edit sources.list to change "etch" to "unstable" for main repository? |
| 04:47.19 | tw-nym | insta: console. |
| 04:47.20 | aidan | bucky: is that the speed each core is running at? |
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| 04:47.25 | ke6isf | !iyhtays Chameleon22 |
| 04:47.25 | dpkg | Chameleon22: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 04:47.26 | Jambon | bucky, ya i've heard that the way linux does drivers often alienates people from making drivers for linux |
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| 04:47.39 | Jambon | well, at least proprietary drivers |
| 04:47.41 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, you are a moron |
| 04:47.56 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: I try, sir, I really do. |
| 04:47.58 | bucky | Jambon, freebsd does that any better? |
| 04:48.03 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, lol |
| 04:48.07 | chealer | tw-nym: even Richard Stallman? |
| 04:48.19 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, you dont tell people dont when they want to learn! its like saying fuck it just dont use it |
| 04:48.25 | tw-nym | ... I refuse to answer that question. |
| 04:48.40 | bucky | aidan, ok.. i give up.. which processor are you running? |
| 04:48.48 | chealer | tw-nym: just admit you're a noob |
| 04:48.54 | Chameleon22 | to install unstable, can i install testing (from net install) and then edit sources.list to change "etch" to "unstable" for main repository? |
| 04:48.54 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: The reason we say that here is simple - unstable is not for those who don't know how to fix the problems that pop up in unstable. You should know already what you're getting into and how to do it before you go in. |
| 04:49.02 | chealer | tw-nym: real men don't need help |
| 04:49.03 | Jambon | well from what i know linux requires they be written into the kernel |
| 04:49.11 | Jambon | at least a lot of them |
| 04:49.21 | Jambon | making binary drivers difficult to put into linux |
| 04:49.27 | bucky | Jambon, so that makes freebsd better? |
| 04:49.29 | tw-nym | Then real men will be doing things the hard way for a very long time. |
| 04:49.39 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, and the reason i called you a moron should be self explanitory then |
| 04:49.53 | tw-nym | I assume by "help" you include documentation etc. |
| 04:50.15 | tw-nym | And yes, I am a noob. I probably always will be. |
| 04:50.18 | tw-nym | But I'm over it. |
| 04:50.19 | Jambon | gaaah |
| 04:50.23 | Jambon | never mind |
| 04:50.29 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: Not really. The condition still exists. If you have to ask, then don't. Trust us. Me, I still have to ask. |
| 04:50.32 | insta | tw-nym: DarkIce seems to take input from a sound card? I need a loopback cable? :) |
| 04:51.06 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: Besides, not knowing you from Adam, I don't know your experience level. All I know is that you popped in and, in effect, asked how to install Sid. |
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| 04:51.20 | Chameleon22 | whats sid |
| 04:51.24 | Chameleon22 | joking |
| 04:51.24 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: I can only make assumptions based on htat. |
| 04:51.26 | tw-nym | insta: I don't know. It depends on your setup. Mine doesn't. |
| 04:51.31 | chealer | tw-nym: yeah. the source code is the only way to good knowledge |
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| 04:51.54 | tw-nym | Thus the hard way. But the source is there. You can do it that way, and I won't fault anyone for trying. |
| 04:52.11 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, assumptioins are stupid, i asked a question you should have either answered or not, but not tell me what I should or should not do - that is absolutely non of yoru business |
| 04:52.21 | bucky | !moron Chameleon22 |
| 04:52.21 | dpkg | Chameleon22: You are moron #85 |
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| 04:52.30 | ke6isf | !bucky++ |
| 04:52.44 | ke6isf | It is always Sunday in here. |
| 04:52.46 | Chameleon22 | but once you said that, I know my way around linux, I just havent used debian for a while |
| 04:52.54 | chealer | tw-nym: documentation only exists to bloat software |
| 04:52.59 | Chameleon22 | hence my question... |
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| 04:53.30 | shogunx | this is like watching an ass sniffing contest between rhinos. |
| 04:53.44 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: Well, I'm sorry I didn't magically know that you not only have Linux experience, but you have used Debian before. After all, I know everything about everybody just by reading the /who list. |
| 04:53.49 | LsD- | im trying to compile mesa and i keep getting and error. someone told me to add VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" to my make.conf.. but i dont have a make.conf on this system. how would i go about making it compile with that option? | VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" make linux-dri-x86 ? would that be correct? |
| 04:54.09 | ke6isf | Chameleon22: And that said, *PLONK* |
| 04:54.10 | tw-nym | chealer: You deserve a medal, my friend. I salute you for being hardcore. |
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| 04:54.40 | Chameleon22 | ke6isf, either help or shutup but stop talking shit |
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| 04:54.52 | bucky | hahaha |
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| 04:55.29 | aidan | bucky: p4 3.0GHz |
| 04:55.34 | bucky | nice |
| 04:55.47 | aidan | yeh, just paid a bunch for a new box |
| 04:55.57 | Chameleon22 | aidan, how much? |
| 04:56.02 | aidan | 2k |
| 04:56.16 | hit | $? |
| 04:56.20 | aidan | $2250 AUD |
| 04:56.20 | Chameleon22 | sheesh i bought same here (AU) - AU$700 |
| 04:56.31 | hit | so rich |
| 04:56.34 | Sonny | this is for every body here: is your debian etch working fine lately??? |
| 04:56.34 | aidan | this is for the whole box, chasis, mb etc |
| 04:56.35 | chealer | tw-nym: I don't need salutations from newbies. go read your man and ask questions on IRC |
| 04:57.34 | chealer | Sonny: fine is vague. nobody can say |
| 04:58.53 | shogunx | 2 grand? that can buy all the parts for a 10gHz cluster. |
| 04:59.52 | insta | tw-nym: Can you clue me in on your music-input methods? All I'm finding in RTFM is reading from soundcards |
| 05:00.00 | Sonny | cause lately my system is not working good since I updraged my packages |
| 05:00.08 | quitte_ | Sonny: and you expect every etch user here to answer, of course? |
| 05:00.35 | shogunx | insta are you looking at icecast? |
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| 05:01.06 | tw-nym | insta: If you're using darkice, you are reading from the soundcard. It samples from dsp (which may be your output depending on what your soundcard does). Maybe I should ask what you're trying to stream from. |
| 05:01.09 | Woosta | Can anyone suggest a remote jukebox? IE, the interface sits in X on one machine and controls a jukebox on another machine (all the mp3s are on the machine that should do the noise) |
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| 05:01.23 | insta | I'm trying to stream from a directory of mp3's |
| 05:01.36 | quitte_ | Woosta: vnc |
| 05:01.40 | tw-nym | Woosta: mpd works pretty well. |
| 05:01.40 | insta | Woosta: XMMS with X forwarding? |
| 05:01.53 | Woosta | There IS no X on the remote machine |
| 05:01.59 | insta | Doesn't need it |
| 05:02.07 | insta | The local machine does |
| 05:02.18 | Woosta | you can do X forwarding without X? |
| 05:02.19 | insta | I'm doing the same setup at home (here != home though) |
| 05:02.24 | insta | yes |
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| 05:03.16 | tw-nym | insta: my setup has mpd as a backend, playing to the sound card. I've got the dsp recording from the wave output and darkice recording from it. |
| 05:03.19 | Sonny | quitte_ :I just expect that somebody tell me if is experiencing the same problem ..... |
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| 05:03.37 | Woosta | OK, it wants to install libgtk and libgtk-common .. guess that's not going to put too much of a strain on the machine :) |
| 05:03.37 | venke | hi |
| 05:03.39 | quitte_ | Sonny: you didnt even explain what your roblem is |
| 05:04.10 | venke | h r u |
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| 05:05.22 | Sonny | quitte_ : some programs are working wrong.... some crashes.... |
| 05:05.24 | Woosta | OK, insta .. I have xmms on the remote machine along with its dependencies .. how do I launch it? |
| 05:05.34 | Woosta | I guess I ssh with x-forwarding |
| 05:05.36 | Woosta | :) |
| 05:05.37 | insta | Did you SSH to it with -X ? |
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| 05:06.00 | quitte_ | Sonny: please be more vague and dont tell anybody which rograms dont work |
| 05:06.12 | Sonny | lol |
| 05:06.35 | Woosta | I did .. but it didn't work: ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display .. |
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| 05:06.56 | insta | Does your server have X forwarding enabled? |
| 05:07.01 | insta | /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 05:07.07 | Woosta | Ahh .. I'll check |
| 05:08.16 | Woosta | On both ends or just on the remote machine? |
| 05:08.29 | insta | Should just need the remote machine |
| 05:08.51 | ke6isf | Sonny: Tell us this, for starters - what version of Debian are you running? |
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| 05:09.32 | Woosta | OK, done on the remote, restarted ssh on the remote, re logged into the remote .. same error when starting xmms |
| 05:09.38 | Sonny | I just want to know if etch is "unstable" the last days, you know is testing but maybe lately were big changes, and maybe some of then buggy |
| 05:09.51 | ke6isf | Sonny: bts? |
| 05:10.42 | Woosta | insta: thanks for your help .. I hate to be a pain so I'll Google .. |
| 05:10.47 | Woosta | Ahh .. there's a few howtos :) |
| 05:11.44 | Sonny | ke6isf: bts? |
| 05:11.44 | Woosta | Gah! I hate howtos that dont use 'machineA' or 'localMachine' .. this one talks about light.uni.verse and dark.uni.verse |
| 05:11.50 | ke6isf | !btssmite Sonny |
| 05:12.03 | raf256 | !lart Sonny |
| 05:12.12 | Sonny | :$ |
| 05:12.13 | ke6isf | raf256: That's overboard at this point. |
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| 05:13.50 | Ramone | hey all... when I do an "apt-get install foo", it's not finding a pretty popular package...how do I resolve that? |
| 05:14.02 | ke6isf | Ramone: Which pretty popular package would it be? |
| 05:14.16 | quitte_ | Sonny: if there were commonly known problems they'd usually be in the topic. so unless you have a secific problem stop polling |
| 05:14.34 | Ramone | a keyboard/mouse switching app called synergy |
| 05:15.11 | ke6isf | !info synergy |
| 05:15.19 | dpkg | synergy: (Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.8-2 (sid), Packaged size: 542 kB, Installed size: 1344 kB |
| 05:15.20 | Ramone | i've seen examples of other people installing it with apt-get |
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| 05:15.31 | ke6isf | Ramone: Looks to be in Sid. What flavor of Debian are you running? |
| 05:15.46 | Ramone | kubuntu |
| 05:15.57 | ke6isf | !kubuntu |
| 05:15.57 | dpkg | [kubuntu] ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, or #Kubuntu, or another debian ripoff |
| 05:15.59 | Ramone | think it's their fault? |
| 05:16.00 | Sonny | arrg |
| 05:16.06 | ke6isf | Ramone: Ask in #kubuntu please. |
| 05:16.09 | zinx | Ramone: it's not debian's fault, that's for sure :) |
| 05:16.22 | Ramone | ha okay...thanks |
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| 05:16.42 | Ramone | I thought there was just some file I add a repository address to? |
| 05:16.53 | Ramone | anyway... I'll ask in #ubuntu... |
| 05:16.54 | ke6isf | Ramone: We don't support Kubuntu. Please ask in #kubuntu. |
| 05:17.01 | Ramone | k no probs... |
| 05:17.10 | markybob | Ramone, we dont know wtf ubuntu does. nor do we care. :) |
| 05:17.23 | packet | has anyone done an upgrade from sarge to etch lately? what are the odds of success? any bad hangups lurking? |
| 05:17.45 | ke6isf | !tell packet -about dist-upgrade |
| 05:17.52 | markybob | udev seems to be killing people. upgrade to a recent kernel and you should be fine, though. |
| 05:18.23 | packet | oic - :) |
| 05:18.46 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.45 | packet | I figured that the switch to xorg would be troubling but I guess not. |
| 05:19.51 | mebaran151 | I really need some help about static routing |
| 05:19.55 | mebaran151 | anybody please |
| 05:20.58 | markybob | !ask |
| 05:21.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:21.33 | insta | Is there a way to tell if mpd is playing, without physical access to the macine? :) |
| 05:22.44 | tw-nym | Uhm, mpd use a tcp socket for control. |
| 05:22.49 | insta | markybob: what's with the (k)ubuntu hate? |
| 05:23.16 | markybob | insta, not hate, but how the hell will i know anything about ubuntu's package repositories? ask a debian question or go to another channel |
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| 05:23.43 | insta | tw-nym: you've been the answer to every audio-related question so far. I think it's safe to assume I am in way over my head. Do you have any links to tutorials, or maybe a tarball of your configuration or something? I hate to keep coming back after every 5 minutes |
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| 05:24.34 | insta | markybob: fair enough, I guess I wasn't watching closely enough :) |
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| 05:25.10 | quitte_ | tw-nym: fix my snd-b87x ;) |
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| 05:26.28 | quitte_ | for which package should i file a bug report if i think all kernels that support pci are affected? |
| 05:26.40 | insta | markybob: well, upon second review, it just seems like there's a lot of animosity towards Ubuntu in general. Is it because of their "rip" of Debian? |
| 05:27.05 | elnovato | i never tried ubuntu |
| 05:27.16 | markybob | insta, no. it's because people come in here asking random questions, we tell them what would work in debian, then after a long time of trying to figure out why it isnt working, we find out that they werent in debian to begin with. it's a waste of our time |
| 05:27.25 | quitte_ | insta: i recommend using ubuntu to newbies myself. but still this is #debian. |
| 05:27.42 | insta | I guess it sounds like I'm picking a fight, eh? |
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| 05:29.15 | N0S3 | i have a little question |
| 05:29.39 | quitte_ | !ask |
| 05:29.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 05:32.01 | quitte_ | N0S3:logrotate will read its config files next time it is run by cron |
| 05:32.25 | ke6isf | insta: It's not that there's animosity, it's just that Ubuntu is not Debian - even Mark Shuttleworth says so. The animosity lies in that people who run Ubuntu sometimes insist that we have to support it anyway. |
| 05:32.49 | hit | how to stop the server kdm and postgresql ? |
| 05:33.00 | ke6isf | hit: Run the appropriate scripts in /etc/init.d |
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| 05:33.17 | hit | init.d? |
| 05:33.21 | markybob | hit /etc/init.d/postgresql stop /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 05:33.30 | ke6isf | hit: What markybob said. |
| 05:33.33 | N0S3 | quitte_: ahh thank you ! |
| 05:34.08 | hit | dont have postgresql in /etc/init.d |
| 05:34.32 | hit | and kdm stop seems not work |
| 05:34.34 | insta | ke6isf: would you guys support it if it was a generic question, but on an ubuntu machine? (eg, my streaming audio stuff) |
| 05:34.50 | ke6isf | insta: No. |
| 05:35.09 | insta | wow. Lucky me then :) |
| 05:35.12 | insta | (Debian Sarge) |
| 05:35.28 | nomade | which module it's for M5455 pci audio device? |
| 05:35.35 | nomade | alsa no detect |
| 05:35.35 | hit | ke6isf not works |
| 05:35.44 | quitte_ | insta: stop trying to start a flamewar. no non-debian suport here. _none_ |
| 05:36.05 | ke6isf | hit: I thought we made the point clear. What part of "no" do you not understand? Ask in #ubuntu. |
| 05:36.08 | markybob | insta, usually i will |
| 05:36.21 | insta | quitte_: I'm honestly not trying to support a flame-war. That's a fair enough answer, and it will be dropped (I just needed something to ramble about while a large aptitude update was running) |
| 05:36.40 | hit | ke6isf but i `m in debian |
| 05:36.58 | ke6isf | insta: Certain generic questions we will answer, but it must be universal stuff - and streaming audio, due to versioning, isn't universal. Just that you're in Debian *now* doesn't help, since the machine in question is an Ubuntu box. |
| 05:37.40 | insta | My client machine that I'm on IRC with is Gentoo. The server I'm trying to configure is Debian Sarge. |
| 05:38.00 | ke6isf | insta: An example of universal would be hit's question of how to stop services. All services can be controlled, if installed, by the scripts in /etc/init.d - and if they can't, then something's VERY broken. |
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| 05:38.26 | ke6isf | insta: Is your streaming server Ubuntu or Sarge? You've mentioned both now, but it's now unclear. Which is which? |
| 05:38.30 | quitte_ | ke6isf: or you dont use sysvinit |
| 05:38.40 | ke6isf | quitte_: ...good point. |
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| 05:38.47 | insta | My process has no Ubuntu anywhere. It was a hypothetical question. |
| 05:38.55 | insta | My streaming server is Debian Sarge |
| 05:39.01 | ke6isf | insta: OK. |
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| 05:39.25 | kferdous | Hey guys quick question.. ext2 or 3 don't work on this drive |
| 05:39.26 | insta | tw-nym has been very helpful, and I'm still lost beyond belief. |
| 05:39.32 | hit | ke6isf : please tell me another method to stop service |
| 05:39.33 | kferdous | how do i find out what fs this drive has |
| 05:39.34 | ke6isf | !doesn't work |
| 05:39.34 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:39.38 | kferdous | Feb 17 21:51:39 localhost kernel: hdc: IBM-IC35L180AVV207-1, ATA DISK drive |
| 05:39.40 | quitte_ | kferdous: quick answer: yes |
| 05:39.43 | kferdous | Feb 17 21:51:39 localhost kernel: hdc: max request size: 1024KiB |
| 05:39.49 | kferdous | Feb 17 21:51:39 localhost kernel: hdc: 361882080 sectors (185283 MB) w/7965KiB Cache, CHS=22526/255/63, UDMA(100) |
| 05:39.53 | kferdous | this is from messages |
| 05:39.57 | ke6isf | !tell kferdous -about flood |
| 05:40.10 | ke6isf | hit: what better method do you want? |
| 05:40.12 | kferdous | VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdc. VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev hdc. this is from dmesg when i try to mount mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc mnt |
| 05:40.26 | insta | did you mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1 ? |
| 05:40.28 | kferdous | it was 3 lines |
| 05:40.33 | quitte_ | kferdous: try -t auto |
| 05:40.39 | hit | ke6isf but the way you told i had try |
| 05:40.43 | ke6isf | kferdous: /dev/hdc is the device. /dev/hdc# is the partition number on the device. Try mounting the partition. |
| 05:40.45 | tw-nym | insta: Want me to pm you links to my cfgs? |
| 05:40.51 | hit | ke6isf it doesnot work |
| 05:40.57 | kferdous | trying |
| 05:41.07 | kferdous | this drive has data on it |
| 05:41.08 | ke6isf | hit: What is your native language? |
| 05:41.20 | bucky | hit, did you ls /etc/init.d to see what the service is really called? |
| 05:41.22 | ke6isf | kferdous: If you fire up fdisk and list the partitions, what do you see? |
| 05:41.41 | kferdous | mount -t auto /dev/hdc mnt |
| 05:41.46 | hit | ke6isf chinese |
| 05:41.48 | kferdous | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 05:41.50 | quitte_ | ke6isf: how do you tell filesystem type from partition data? |
| 05:41.53 | ke6isf | !zh |
| 05:41.53 | dpkg | methinks zh is see cn |
| 05:41.56 | ke6isf | !cn |
| 05:41.56 | dpkg | from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 05:42.12 | ke6isf | hit: Have you asked in that channel yet? |
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| 05:42.22 | hit | ke6isf no |
| 05:42.47 | ke6isf | hit: Try asking in #debian-zh . If you have no luck, come back and we'lll see what we can do. |
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| 05:43.27 | jeffrin | what is the modem initialisation string for nokia 6610i |
| 05:43.32 | kferdous | ke6isf; http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 05:43.45 | hit | ke6isf i can not type chinese character yet.. |
| 05:44.10 | ke6isf | kferdous: Need to know what you pasted. That's the spot that ou paste your stuff too. |
| 05:44.13 | ke6isf | hit: Ah, OK. |
| 05:44.13 | quitte_ | kferdous: you dont mount harddisks you mount partitions. |
| 05:44.30 | quitte_ | ke6isf: sorry didnt see he mounted hdc |
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| 05:44.59 | kferdous | ke6isf? you lost me |
| 05:45.11 | kferdous | oh never mind I got it |
| 05:45.14 | ke6isf | kferdous: By goign to that URL, I am prompted to paste my data to the window. |
| 05:45.14 | kferdous | thank you so much |
| 05:45.17 | kferdous | you guys are great |
| 05:45.19 | insta | kferdous: I can walk you through it in PM |
| 05:45.26 | insta | Or you figured it out |
| 05:45.28 | insta | One of the two :) |
| 05:45.29 | kferdous | =) |
| 05:45.34 | kferdous | thank you so muc guys |
| 05:45.36 | kferdous | much* |
| 05:45.37 | insta | Are you using -t auto? |
| 05:45.44 | kferdous | yes sir |
| 05:45.53 | insta | I'd still suggest picking the filesystem type and partition |
| 05:46.06 | kferdous | k |
| 05:46.21 | ke6isf | hit: Does the directory /etc/init.d exist? |
| 05:46.22 | kferdous | can you run fsck via ssh |
| 05:46.23 | kferdous | ? |
| 05:46.27 | kferdous | or is that not a good idea ? |
| 05:46.33 | insta | If it's not mounted |
| 05:46.35 | ke6isf | kferdous: Inadviseable, IMO. |
| 05:46.47 | hit | yes |
| 05:46.52 | quitte_ | kferdous: you can- but its not a good idea to run it on a rw mounted partition |
| 05:46.54 | ke6isf | hit: Are you root? |
| 05:47.00 | hit | but no postgresql exist |
| 05:47.03 | hit | yes |
| 05:47.15 | ke6isf | hit: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 05:47.19 | kferdous | thank you |
| 05:47.20 | tw-nym | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.39 | tw-nym | Or well, partitions in general, not just mountable ones. |
| 05:47.41 | hit | 3.1 sarge |
| 05:48.01 | tw-nym | Err, oops, not the write question. |
| 05:48.03 | ke6isf | hit: postgresql is running, but isn't present in /etc/init.d? |
| 05:48.16 | insta | tw-nym: you get those config files? |
| 05:48.47 | tw-nym | I have some for you. They've still got the original comments in them, but I figure you can filter those out. |
| 05:48.54 | hit | ke6isf : yes |
| 05:49.02 | elnovato | anyone can advice me a decent hosting? |
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| 05:49.54 | deadcat | elnovato: dreamhost.com |
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| 05:50.08 | deadcat | elnovato: if you sign up. use me as the referrer. deadcat |
| 05:50.10 | ke6isf | hit: What does 'dpkg -l postgresql' show for a status? |
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| 05:50.46 | elnovato | akay deadcat, leeme seeee |
| 05:51.21 | hit | ke6isf : hold on |
| 05:52.06 | skyerce | Why is my Chinese typeface the additive device? My locales establishment is GB18380 |
| 05:52.40 | hit | ke6isf: postgresql 7.4.7-6sarge1 object-relational SQL database management sy |
| 05:52.48 | LinuxNIT- | is there a app that dosent rely on kde or gnome but operates like using smb:/ like you can in konqueror? |
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| 05:53.36 | ke6isf | hit: There should be two letters before that - probably 'ii' or something . What are they? |
| 05:53.59 | hit | ii |
| 05:54.05 | skyerce | why apt-get wine version is too old? |
| 05:54.14 | hit | it is important? |
| 05:54.28 | ke6isf | hit: Probably. |
| 05:54.43 | elnovato | skyerce: using stable ? |
| 05:55.11 | skyerce | I using stable now |
| 05:55.15 | hit | ke6isf: then next step? |
| 05:55.36 | elnovato | skyerce: get a look at etch |
| 05:56.00 | ke6isf | deadcat: working with hit here. He has postgresql running, but has no entry in /etc/init.d, and wishes to stop the process. Kill could work, but I'm thinking a reinstall is appropriate here. Your thoughts? |
| 05:56.37 | skyerce | ÄÜ¿´¶®ÖÐÎÄô |
| 05:57.26 | hit | yes |
| 05:57.32 | skyerce | I using DebianLinux olny 2weeks,I don't know any thing about debian |
| 05:57.45 | hit | i stoped it |
| 05:57.48 | hit | thanks |
| 05:57.50 | elnovato | dreamhost.com are in real , ev1servers , isnt? |
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| 05:58.10 | ke6isf | hit: kill, or otherwise? |
| 05:58.17 | ke6isf | deadcat: ...never mind. |
| 05:58.19 | mebaran151 | my nforce4 nic doesn't seem to resolve ip's to mac |
| 05:58.58 | hit | just add ./ ahead |
| 05:58.59 | hit | ... |
| 05:59.12 | ke6isf | hit: Ah, OK. I didn't realize you were trying to run it from the directory. |
| 05:59.33 | hit | heh |
| 05:59.46 | hit | i realized first |
| 05:59.54 | hit | - -! |
| 06:00.09 | ke6isf | hit: It happens. =) |
| 06:00.37 | ke6isf | Buggers, I need to sleep. |
| 06:00.40 | skyerce | Ë¿ÉÒÔ¿´µÄ¶®ÖÐÎÄ- -! |
| 06:00.53 | bucky | Ë¿ÉÒÔ¿´µÄ¶®ÖÐÎÄ- -? |
| 06:00.55 | hit | wo |
| 06:01.02 | ke6isf | skyerce: I'm sorry, what was that? |
| 06:01.02 | skyerce | @_@ |
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| 06:01.28 | skyerce | I say "Who can speak chinese?!"@_@ |
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| 06:01.35 | ke6isf | !cn |
| 06:01.35 | dpkg | somebody said cn was China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 06:01.50 | bucky | skyerce, #debian-zh |
| 06:02.00 | elnovato | Chun ley chau fa |
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| 06:02.33 | skyerce | ÏÖÔÚÖ»ÒªÒ»¸öÈË»á˵ÖÐÎľͿÉÒÔ°¢ |
| 06:02.34 | ke6isf | I only know how to say happy new year, sorry. =^^= |
| 06:02.58 | ke6isf | skyerce: Please join #debian-zh - you'll find people better equipped to read Chinese there. |
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| 06:03.34 | elnovato | ken sha |
| 06:03.44 | skyerce | Happy new year in chinese is ¡°ni hao¡± |
| 06:03.56 | ItsMe | what happened to greycat wikki ? |
| 06:04.11 | skyerce | wrong£¬is ¡°xin nian kuai le¡± |
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| 06:04.53 | skyerce | who have ICQ? |
| 06:05.29 | bucky | !who uses ICQ |
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| 06:06.38 | skyerce | sorry,I study english not very well,It's very very very difficult! |
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| 06:07.05 | elnovato | If Christ Qries? |
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| 06:08.54 | skyerce | who can speak chinese? haha |
| 06:08.58 | skyerce | ^_^ |
| 06:09.12 | elnovato | hong kong |
| 06:09.25 | skyerce | ??? |
| 06:09.31 | aidan | I'm trying to set the name of my box (in bash, the foo@aidan# thing) |
| 06:09.36 | skyerce | elnovato, kong hong? |
| 06:09.48 | hatake_kakashi | probably Cantonese |
| 06:09.54 | Woosta | aidan: it's the PS1 env |
| 06:09.54 | aidan | I've set RC1 in /etc/profiles but it hasn't done anything, echo $RC1 shows the var is set |
| 06:09.56 | grendal_prime | anyone using phpgroupware? |
| 06:10.14 | grendal_prime | i cant seem to get the admin account to work...or determine if there is even supposed to be one |
| 06:10.28 | aidan | sorry PS1 |
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| 06:10.39 | aidan | that could be why :P |
| 06:10.40 | elnovato | beijing |
| 06:11.02 | skyerce | elnovato,are you chinese? |
| 06:11.07 | Woosta | aidan: it evals it every time .. so test it with: PS1=test |
| 06:11.16 | Woosta | all of a sudden it should change to 'test' |
| 06:11.22 | bcc | hi guys, is it possible to use geometry option with startx command? |
| 06:11.25 | deadcat | skyerce: why you plan to discriminate? |
| 06:11.42 | ice_1963 | lol |
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| 06:11.52 | elnovato | skyerce: im not chinesse, but im planning to lear chinesse in the next 5 years |
| 06:12.03 | F-Lelo | I'm getting this error: Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/lelo/public_html/postlister/lists.php on line 93 |
| 06:12.03 | F-Lelo | No mailing lists available. |
| 06:12.08 | F-Lelo | what can I do to solve it? ;~ |
| 06:12.13 | F-Lelo | *should |
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| 06:13.48 | Sonny | hi, do you know how to open a link automatically when I click from a message of thunderbird? |
| 06:14.29 | elnovato | Sonny: maybe in #mozilla |
| 06:14.30 | aidan | F-Lelo: I'd join #php to start with |
| 06:14.40 | aidan | F-Lelo: then I'd probably look at php.net/mysql_error |
| 06:14.44 | Supaplex | it works fine in kmail. >:) |
| 06:14.51 | F-Lelo | hmm.. ok thanks aidan |
| 06:15.04 | skyerce | elnovato,I tech you haha |
| 06:15.17 | dondelelcaro | ls a-l |
| 06:15.21 | elnovato | skyerce: ok , i hope you are a beaty chinesse girl :P |
| 06:15.22 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's going to work. |
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| 06:16.09 | aidan | Woosta: cool |
| 06:16.15 | aidan | \h:\w\$ |
| 06:16.17 | cjfp | Evening. I can see visualboyadvance as part of debian s/t/u on the web but can not apt-get install it. |
| 06:16.21 | aidan | where does \h come from there? |
| 06:16.49 | cjfp | I added the official us debian mirror to my sources.list too. |
| 06:16.52 | skyerce | oh my god! elnovato, I'm a chinese boy!!!!!!! |
| 06:16.57 | skyerce | crying......... |
| 06:17.14 | insta | *owned* |
| 06:17.15 | elnovato | dang.... |
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| 06:17.41 | skyerce | elnovato, do you have MSN? |
| 06:17.52 | elnovato | sure |
| 06:18.12 | skyerce | give me |
| 06:18.22 | elnovato | msg'ed |
| 06:18.26 | skyerce | my MSN is:a328883449@msn.com |
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| 06:19.17 | elnovato | just dont send me 10k spam emails , heheh |
| 06:19.19 | Woosta | aidan: it's the hostname |
| 06:19.23 | cjfp | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.29 | cjfp | fuck |
| 06:19.31 | skyerce | ? |
| 06:19.41 | skyerce | elnovato,??? |
| 06:19.48 | insta | Woosta: you get X forwarding working? |
| 06:19.49 | elnovato | j/k |
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| 06:20.10 | Woosta | insta: nah .. mpd has proven to be a better solution |
| 06:20.22 | hellkat | Can someone please help me- I cant play .wmv (wmv3 codec, i think) in VLC, what should I do? |
| 06:20.46 | aidan | Woosta: cool |
| 06:21.09 | hellkat | Or maybe how to convert it to mpeg? |
| 06:21.15 | skyerce | elnovato,can we talk on MSN? |
| 06:21.21 | elnovato | okay |
| 06:21.28 | quitte_ | hellkat: install codecs. ask dpk about marillat |
| 06:21.59 | skyerce | elnovato: I don't Know your MSN |
| 06:22.03 | hellkat | thanks |
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| 06:22.32 | elnovato | lemme add ya |
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| 06:23.02 | skyerce | a328883449@msn.com my MSN can you? |
| 06:23.38 | hellkat | How do I add Marillat to my apt-sources? or do I? |
| 06:23.39 | deadcat | can you guys take this in another channel please. |
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| 06:23.52 | deadcat | !tell hellkat about marillat |
| 06:23.58 | hellkat | i know, |
| 06:24.03 | deadcat | then do it |
| 06:24.03 | hellkat | but i dont understand how to do this |
| 06:24.18 | deadcat | hellkat: use an editor. copy the line. |
| 06:24.30 | hellkat | *sigh* |
| 06:24.33 | cjfp | hellkat: edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root |
| 06:24.45 | deadcat | hellkat: if you dont know that. you shouldnt be using mplayer |
| 06:24.50 | deadcat | or you dont deserve to use it |
| 06:24.54 | cjfp | then apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer |
| 06:24.54 | hellkat | I know, |
| 06:24.58 | hellkat | i cant |
| 06:25.13 | deadcat | hellkat: its mplayer-586 |
| 06:25.16 | hellkat | It isnt compatable, and it doesnt install |
| 06:26.30 | cjfp | Can somebody confirm if pkg visualboyadvance is available through apt? |
| 06:26.48 | hellkat | what do i put in my sources list to download mplayer? |
| 06:27.11 | cjfp | See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add |
| 06:27.46 | hellkat | thanks |
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| 06:30.31 | dn4 | How do I play http://video.party107.com:8000/ |
| 06:30.41 | dn4 | I cannot get totem, or gxine or alsaplayer to play this |
| 06:30.54 | cjfp | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/visualboyadvance |
| 06:30.59 | cjfp | http://packages.debian.org/stable/games/visualboyadvance |
| 06:31.18 | cjfp | but apt-get install visualboyadvance fails for me, i have no idea why. |
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| 06:32.04 | aidan | how do you add a user to a group again? normally I just edit the file, but it's harder to script |
| 06:32.20 | tuv | how do i define a dns server in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 06:32.23 | deadcat | aidan: usermod |
| 06:32.28 | deadcat | or adduser |
| 06:32.32 | tuv | and where is it documented? |
| 06:32.59 | deadcat | tuv: none. the option doesnt work. just put post-up echo "nameserver blah" >> /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 06:33.42 | aidan | thanks deadcat |
| 06:34.06 | tuv | deadcat: it doesn't work for all dists (stable, testing, unstable)? |
| 06:34.41 | Sonny | do you know if the games designed for xf86 work under xorg? like doom? |
| 06:35.14 | aidan | deadcat: usermod -G groupa usera kinda sucks as it moves the user out of any other groups :/ |
| 06:35.17 | aidan | is there a better way? |
| 06:35.24 | ft | Sonny: they do |
| 06:35.57 | Sonny | ft, thanks |
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| 06:36.48 | deadcat | aidan: adduser username groupname |
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| 06:37.18 | tuv | deadcat: you're saying the option doesn't work, i'm asking: is that the case for stable, testing and unstable or only stable? |
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| 06:38.03 | Sonny | can you recommend me a good video player? instead of totem? |
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| 06:38.28 | deadcat | tuv: oh.. thats what i was told. i never used it. |
| 06:38.29 | quitte_ | Sonny: gxine or xine-ui |
| 06:39.19 | Sonny | it is better than totem rigth? |
| 06:39.43 | emdash | not really |
| 06:40.03 | dn4 | how do I watch streaming video from shoutcast?? |
| 06:40.04 | tuv | deadcat: it should be at least documented somewhere? |
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| 06:40.21 | deadcat | tuv: ya. i cant find the document about that either. |
| 06:40.24 | elnovato | i know chinesse !! |
| 06:40.30 | elnovato | ni = me |
| 06:40.46 | Supaplex | what can i use to combine multiple jpeg images into a movie? |
| 06:42.00 | kurumin | #nick einstein |
| 06:42.21 | kurumin | nick einstein |
| 06:42.54 | kurumin | #join olga |
| 06:44.40 | Supaplex | never! |
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| 06:47.14 | siimo | hi what does the keyword "Ign" mean. do i have to change something? ----> Ign ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org unstable/main Packages |
| 06:47.21 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:47.22 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:47.39 | Supaplex | !ign |
| 06:47.39 | dpkg | somebody said ign was when apt-get outputs lines starting with "Ign:" it means "Hrm, there's no such file but it's not a big deal anyway, i didn't need it", also "Hit:" means "i already had that file, no need to download" |
| 06:47.55 | elnovato | !wma |
| 06:47.55 | dpkg | somebody said wma was windows media audio file or something of that nature (proprietary Microsoft lossy audio codec), which sucks because I apt say so, or you can play it with vlc (Sarge) or mplayer |
| 06:47.58 | siimo | thanks |
| 06:47.58 | Supaplex | !botsnack |
| 06:47.58 | dpkg | aw, gee, Supaplex |
| 06:48.04 | Supaplex | np |
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| 06:49.20 | elnovato | mplayer was retired from etch ? |
| 06:50.25 | ice_1963 | well does mplayer work in etch ? |
| 06:51.03 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 06:51.39 | Supaplex | installing etch on a laptop could be bad. just make sure you don't tip it upsidedown. ;) |
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| 06:55.17 | Supaplex | this must be the quiet before the storm. |
| 06:55.25 | netgod | fear |
| 06:55.34 | ItsMe | I'm scared |
| 06:55.54 | Supaplex | chilling ins't it |
| 06:56.42 | elnovato | The following packages have unmet dependencies. xmms-xmmplayer: Depends: mplayer but it is not installable |
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| 06:58.13 | Supaplex | I guess you can't install it then. |
| 06:58.27 | elnovato | !tell me about mplayer is not in etch |
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| 07:00.15 | SUSAN^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.20 | SUSAN^ | Y6 V |
| 07:00.28 | Supaplex | !nickometer SUSAN^ |
| 07:00.29 | dpkg | 'SUSAN^' is 97.970% lame, supaplex |
| 07:00.30 | SUSAN^ | 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333334 |
| 07:00.53 | ice_1963 | well i have never used mplayer eny how |
| 07:01.50 | Sonny | what do you use? xmule or amule.... which one is betteR? |
| 07:02.05 | Supaplex | mplayer should work in etch, provided you find and install it the old fashioned way. I'm not up on the issue, so a little research could save you some trouble. |
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| 07:03.45 | ice_1963 | i'm not in to p2p :0) |
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| 07:04.35 | Supaplex | it's called finding the upstream source tarball and following the INSTALL |
| 07:05.02 | Supaplex | assuming it's still around. *shrug* (you imply maybe it's not, but I don't know...) |
| 07:05.49 | jeffrin | hello |
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| 07:06.35 | Supaplex | that takes tallent |
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| 07:09.08 | aidan | can a user login with SFTP if their shell is /bin/false? |
| 07:09.19 | tuv | deadcat: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 07:09.27 | kablam | guys can anyone reccomend a good ssh2 client for windows? |
| 07:09.31 | Sonny | !xmule |
| 07:09.37 | Sonny | !tell xmule |
| 07:09.38 | ItsMe | putty |
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| 07:09.53 | hatake_kakashi | kablam: putty |
| 07:09.58 | kablam | ok thx |
| 07:10.26 | deadcat | tuv: thanks (= |
| 07:10.28 | Supaplex | cygwin ;) |
| 07:10.39 | Supaplex | actually, putty is better imo :) |
| 07:10.55 | tuv | kablam: putty |
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| 07:11.16 | coywolf | i find a file /usr/bin/saveme , what is it for? |
| 07:11.19 | coywolf | is it rootkit? |
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| 07:13.06 | Supaplex | dpkg -S /usr/bin/saveme |
| 07:13.06 | dpkg | Dingos ate my /usr/bin/saveme! |
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| 07:13.41 | coywolf | Supaplex, ? |
| 07:13.54 | coywolf | tsocks: /usr/bin/saveme |
| 07:13.55 | Supaplex | run that (don't paste) |
| 07:14.01 | coywolf | Supaplex, thanks |
| 07:14.03 | Supaplex | it's part of tsocks apparently. |
| 07:14.08 | Supaplex | man saveme |
| 07:14.14 | vanual | hi guys! |
| 07:14.18 | vanual | I'm new here! |
| 07:14.20 | vanual | greeting |
| 07:14.22 | coywolf | prodigy:~> man saveme |
| 07:14.23 | coywolf | No manual entry for saveme |
| 07:14.23 | vanual | s* |
| 07:14.24 | coywolf | Supaplex, ^ |
| 07:14.55 | Supaplex | !paste |
| 07:14.55 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:15.12 | Supaplex | simply a 'no man page' will suffice. |
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| 07:15.58 | Red_Cloud | OK, I just learned that I was being locked out of my GUI because /tmp was full and could not be written into. This was quite a puzzle to me until I did some exploring around my directory using Krusader. I moved some files and all is well again. BUT.....how do I increase the capacity of "/"? |
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| 07:21.00 | Sonny | do you know a repositories to install xmule? |
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| 07:26.25 | elnovato | emule maybe |
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| 07:26.34 | Kobaz | ~find update-rc.d |
| 07:26.39 | elnovato | err , amule |
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| 07:29.13 | coywolf | how to see a package's status? |
| 07:29.37 | ItsMe | dpkg -l pkgname |
| 07:29.37 | dpkg | ii pkgname 3.1-4 itsme's private stamp collection |
| 07:29.53 | kablam | how do you acces the configureation program that you used when you first installed debian ? |
| 07:30.09 | coywolf | dpkg -l python2.4 |
| 07:30.09 | dpkg | ii python2.4 2.4-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 07:30.12 | kablam | rember reading that run this ... something during install |
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| 07:31.08 | bucky | kablam, run base-config ? |
| 07:31.33 | kablam | thx |
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| 07:32.10 | kablam | think so where you chose the diffrent parts u want installed is that it? |
| 07:32.11 | Woosta | Mmm .. why is there no mplayer in testing? |
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| 07:35.00 | streuner | Woosta: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 07:38.27 | Supaplex | ~ -l there-is-no-spoon |
| 07:38.42 | Supaplex | ~-l o |
| 07:38.56 | Supaplex | good apt. |
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| 07:39.26 | aidan | will this work? http://forums.serverbeach.com/showthread.php?t=2179 |
| 07:39.38 | SimonRaven | kablam: tasksel |
| 07:39.38 | aidan | I don't want to use FTP, but I don't want to give users SSH |
| 07:40.15 | SimonRaven | webdav then |
| 07:40.30 | SerajewelKS | !tell Woosta about mplayer |
| 07:40.52 | streuner | SerajewelKS: are you an echo? |
| 07:41.07 | SerajewelKS | streuner: and/or unobservant |
| 07:41.08 | Supaplex | aidan: scponly |
| 07:41.12 | SimonRaven | echo echo > /bin/echo |
| 07:41.17 | streuner | @mhallsmite SerajewelKS |
| 07:42.03 | Supaplex | @echo foo |
| 07:42.04 | ravenbird | foo |
| 07:42.29 | Supaplex | @echo I'm not your fscking batch file! |
| 07:42.29 | ravenbird | I'm not your fscking batch file! |
| 07:42.42 | Supaplex | could have fooled me. ;) |
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| 07:43.06 | SimonRaven | @echo @say ff Supaplex |
| 07:43.08 | ravenbird | @say ff Supaplex |
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| 07:43.41 | SimonRaven | nice it can't call itself |
| 07:43.51 | Supaplex | well, there is... |
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| 07:43.57 | Supaplex | @say !say ~say what? |
| 07:43.58 | ravenbird | !say ~say what |
| 07:44.10 | Supaplex | humm, until now. |
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| 07:44.14 | Supaplex | that use to work. :) |
| 07:44.28 | SimonRaven | *not* here |
| 07:47.11 | SimonRaven | #debian-bots, Supaplex |
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| 07:48.46 | Supaplex | so it never worked here, but only in the bot channel. right? |
| 07:49.26 | SimonRaven | no, not that |
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| 07:49.52 | Supaplex | topic of there? |
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| 07:59.59 | Supaplex | generally a real user is created, and they can modify things in directories they own. Any other use is either flawed, or requires more research. |
| 08:00.19 | Supaplex | virtualization of users requires additional care to. |
| 08:01.03 | SimonRaven | Jacob_: often people makes another group for that kind of access, and add the relevant users to that group upon use creation; you can also go the virtual route like Supaplex said |
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| 08:02.04 | SimonRaven | s/use/user/ |
| 08:02.10 | Jacob_ | virtual route ? Never heart of that... Thanks for the answers - guess I'll have to google it a bit |
| 08:02.11 | Supaplex | there are some issues of permissions I still avoid. keeps my head from hurting. :) |
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| 08:11.08 | Jacob_ | exactly!! |
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| 08:11.29 | Supaplex | as long as the user own their own content, rm -Rf / is just fine. they'll destroy their own data. |
| 08:12.04 | Jacob_ | That's right... But the trick is to limit the user to their own home dir only |
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| 08:12.21 | SimonRaven | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: if they're chroot()ed that wouldn't matter, they could only do that to their site ... heh |
| 08:12.31 | Jacob_ | guess you have to create a system account for each user |
| 08:12.34 | SimonRaven | Supaplex: mind reader |
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| 08:13.30 | Supaplex | I love it when bofh backfires. |
| 08:13.53 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | SimonRaven any keywords for me how to find out about chrooting a user ? |
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| 08:14.09 | Jacob_ | yeah - me too |
| 08:14.09 | Supaplex | uh well... chroot |
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| 08:14.28 | SimonRaven | man chroot :P |
| 08:14.29 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | also to deny him from some exec(''); commands (only some of them, tar and mysqldump and ping etc i would allow) |
| 08:14.32 | SimonRaven | j/k |
| 08:14.34 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | lol |
| 08:14.49 | Supaplex | php safemode |
| 08:15.00 | Supaplex | depends on how much of a control freak you really need to be |
| 08:15.21 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | i see, well that should keep me warm googling some hours |
| 08:15.43 | Supaplex | google's easy. you memorize it after a while. |
| 08:15.45 | Jacob_ | Yup - but if you want the users to be able to install CMS system such as joomla php safe mode does not work as far as I know |
| 08:15.52 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 08:17.55 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | Jacob_ too bad for them! :p |
| 08:18.22 | Supaplex | yeah, they can signup with mine. >:) |
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| 08:18.44 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | haha |
| 08:19.22 | Jacob_ | They could chmod 777 but when users try to delete data if they want, they can't because of permissions... This is a problem too |
| 08:20.25 | ah`kin[de | chmod a+rwx |
| 08:20.38 | Supaplex | same diff |
| 08:20.43 | Supaplex | er nm |
| 08:22.09 | jfs | are there any (e.g. unofficial) debian packages available (which are hopefully maintained) for the gnupg gateway? |
| 08:22.42 | Jacob_ | chmod a+rwx would not work if www-data owns the file |
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| 08:23.44 | Eulex | Jacob_, it's not about the permissions on the file itself, it's about the permissions on the directory it's in. |
| 08:24.22 | Jacob_ | hmm... You learn something new every day I guess :o) thaniks |
| 08:24.46 | Eulex | !permissions |
| 08:24.47 | dpkg | i heard permissions is multiple acts of permitting, or http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions |
| 08:24.55 | Eulex | Jacob_, ^^ read that one |
| 08:25.06 | Jacob_ | thanks :) |
| 08:25.11 | ah`kin[de | wwww-data <-- u have to links |
| 08:25.13 | Supaplex | that's why you can delete files you don't own and don't have any permissions on, if they're in a directory you have write access to (and it's not sticky) |
| 08:25.23 | ah`kin[de | i forget this.. i faced this problem b4.. my friend solved for me b4.. |
| 08:25.30 | Supaplex | !b4 |
| 08:25.30 | dpkg | try "before", moron. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO! |
| 08:26.28 | Eulex | Jacob_, you're welcome :) |
| 08:27.22 | mutante | damn, i h8 it when my irssi inside a screen freezes for unknown reaons |
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| 08:27.35 | dungtran | sddsa |
| 08:27.49 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | hmm, is there any way that i can get an wget-ssl or lftp-ssl build? its not in my reporsitories and i cannot compile it (its a server not a developement machine) |
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| 08:28.51 | Eulex | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, I believe the default wget includes ssl support. |
| 08:29.23 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | Eulex i mean: i want to use wget to download from an ftp (AUTH TLS..) |
| 08:30.07 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | lftp-ssl can also do this (on my suse server i installed lftp and it got ssl, on my debian i do the same and i gon no ssl support) :s |
| 08:30.19 | Eulex | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, I don't know about ftp, but I just retrieved a file from a https server with wget. |
| 08:30.53 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | ftp doest work.. i get respond from the ftp server "please use secure login" |
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| 08:31.02 | suppaman | hi |
| 08:31.07 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | so its the AUTH TLS part that wget misses |
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| 08:32.17 | Eulex | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, nope, I just retrieved a file with https://user:*password*@192.168.0.5/ |
| 08:32.35 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | that's the http part.. |
| 08:32.35 | Eulex | with wget, that is |
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| 08:33.17 | mutante | try ncftp |
| 08:33.23 | mutante | i think it can be scripted |
| 08:33.24 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | k |
| 08:33.45 | Eulex | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, you could try using an sftp server instead. |
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| 08:34.06 | suppaman | I've got this problem when calling apt-get update: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1863 |
| 08:34.18 | suppaman | what does it means and what can I do ? |
| 08:34.24 | mutante | http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/ NcFTPGet there are those seperate utilities |
| 08:34.30 | Eulex | !apt-secure |
| 08:34.30 | dpkg | i guess apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key> |
| 08:34.39 | bvs | suppaman, /topic |
| 08:34.48 | suppaman | omg |
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| 08:35.00 | suppaman | bvs: I read all the topic searching for paste politic :-) |
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| 08:35.24 | suppaman | bvs: and didn't saw the capitalized word.. |
| 08:35.30 | bvs | :) |
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| 08:35.40 | suppaman | so |
| 08:35.46 | suppaman | this is #ubuntu channel ? |
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| 08:35.51 | suppaman | isn't it ? |
| 08:35.53 | Eulex | no |
| 08:36.03 | suppaman | Eulex: just kidding |
| 08:36.05 | hit | how to use fctix |
| 08:36.17 | mutante | #ubuntu is #ubuntu |
| 08:36.26 | mutante | a rose is a rose |
| 08:36.57 | Eulex | hit, no such thing in debian |
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| 08:37.12 | andrownz | I lost my globbing knowlege, I have pictures like p100XXX.jpg, I'd like to ls only from 364 to 401, wasn't it ls p100[364,401].jpg ? (I'm using zsh) |
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| 08:37.34 | hit | Eulex sure ? |
| 08:37.48 | mgoetze | andrownz: handy zsh hint: just press tab to see what zsh is planning to expand your glob to |
| 08:37.54 | Supaplex | andrownz: man seq (one way) |
| 08:38.25 | andrownz | mgoetze, yeah zsh completion is just awesome =) |
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| 08:38.59 | andrownz | Supaplex, can't I do that with globbing? |
| 08:39.00 | hit | Eulex it is a soft to make you can type chinese character |
| 08:39.04 | Eulex | hit, yep, I tried searching for it both with apt-cache and apt-file. there's no such package, that word doesn't exist in any package description, and there's no filename in any package that has that name |
| 08:39.46 | hit | Eulex it is true exist |
| 08:39.52 | Supaplex | andrownz: no idea. #zsh / ##zsh maybe. |
| 08:40.18 | hit | Eulex maybe just in china ftp site |
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| 08:40.53 | Eulex | hit, I googled, and it was named fcitx, not fctix. it's in debian, and has the package name fcitx. |
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| 08:41.23 | hit | Eulex yes |
| 08:42.19 | beginer | i need a INTEX Webcam driver... who can help me? i buy it! |
| 08:42.25 | Eulex | hit, you could read the files in /usr/share/doc/fcitx/ |
| 08:42.37 | Eulex | beginer, chipset? |
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| 08:42.53 | mgoetze | andrownz: quoth zshexpn manpage: " An expression of the form `{n1..n2}', where n1 and n2 are integers, is expanded to every number between n1 and n2 inclusive." |
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| 08:43.01 | hit | Eulex i apt-get install fcitx but there is a ./configure mistake |
| 08:43.14 | beginer | vend/prod 0xc45 0x613b |
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| 08:43.43 | Eulex | beginer, no, chipset |
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| 08:43.53 | hit | Eulex /var/lib/dpkg/info/fcitx.postinst: line 21: /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/zh_CN : no such directory or file |
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| 08:43.58 | beginer | how can i find out? |
| 08:44.16 | peterS | Eulex: that *is* the chipset, just encoded |
| 08:44.19 | Heyu | hey |
| 08:44.45 | foKs|ZzZZ | Q: does anyone know why i can't resolve my security.debian.org from my sources.list? I read on the net that it happens alot but there's no answer. Can someone help me please |
| 08:45.04 | peterS | Eulex: according to /usr/share/misc/usb.ids, vendor 0c45 is Microdia. it doesn't list device 613b though. |
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| 08:45.11 | Eulex | peterS, hmm, I though it only said what vendor and product it was, which has nothing to do with chipset. |
| 08:45.34 | dn4 | does anyone know how to create a wireless router with a eth0 as a gateway and a ath0 as the wireless router? |
| 08:45.35 | peterS | Eulex: vendor / product generally denote a specific chipset, for PCI and USB devices |
| 08:45.57 | Supaplex | foKs|ZzZZ: as in dns resolution? /etc/hosts maybe... |
| 08:46.03 | Eulex | peterS, ok, that sounds fair |
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| 08:46.12 | SerajewelKS | apache's mod_proxy seems to be limiting itself to 3 requests per IP address. can i lift this restriction? |
| 08:46.39 | Eulex | hit, you could try creating it. |
| 08:46.48 | suppaman | see you thanks |
| 08:46.48 | peterS | Eulex: I don't see his vendor/device pair in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/modules.usbmap either - that's where you look for what chipset IDs are supported by each USB driver |
| 08:46.55 | beginer | hei... anyone can build a driver for that? i just need to make snapshots with webcam application from command line... i pay |
| 08:47.06 | hit | Eulex myself ? |
| 08:47.19 | Eulex | hit, yep. |
| 08:47.22 | foKs|ZzZZ | Supaplex: but it can resolve other address, i will check the /etc/hosts |
| 08:47.24 | peterS | Eulex: the third and fourth column is what you're looking at, for vendor / device IDs. the first column is the module name that supports it |
| 08:47.59 | Supaplex | foKs|ZzZZ: there's 100s of ways to fix it. that's just one bandaid. |
| 08:48.14 | Eulex | peterS, ok, thanks for educating me :) |
| 08:48.36 | peterS | Eulex: no problem - just trying to get someone else who can answer USB driver questions better in this channel (: |
| 08:49.55 | Heyu | sssomebody knows what is msconfig? |
| 08:50.08 | peterS | Heyu: it's probably like mspacman |
| 08:50.10 | beginer | msconfix is for windows |
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| 08:50.19 | hit | Eulex but it is a extremely a problem for me |
| 08:50.28 | hatake_kakashi | Heyu: msconfig is startup configurator for windows |
| 08:50.42 | elnovato | Heyu: msconfig configuration utilitie for windoze |
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| 08:51.51 | Heyu | no is what puy you in the safest mode in windows by getting rid of of the advertaisment items |
| 08:52.20 | elnovato | can be executed in normal mode |
| 08:52.23 | Supaplex | we're a bunch of windows haters. if you want to install linux, we can fix that msconfig issue you complain about |
| 08:52.50 | Heyu | no spywares sets you in a mode |
| 08:52.53 | Supaplex | (well, I'll speak for myself, but - maybe I reall mean *many* of us are) ... |
| 08:53.14 | Eulex | hit, tried creating it yet? btw, you should report that it doesn't create that directory itself as a bug to the bts. |
| 08:53.48 | foKs|ZzZZ | Supaplex: so u mean that i put the ip there for http://security.debian.org ? |
| 08:53.53 | Heyu | Im a windows hater too , just making a conversation |
| 08:54.10 | Supaplex | foKs|ZzZZ: yea |
| 08:54.18 | elnovato | Heyu: better lets talk about Bush administration |
| 08:54.28 | Heyu | yup |
| 08:54.36 | Supaplex | Heyu: that's fine, but keep it on topic. :) |
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| 08:55.22 | Heyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.44 | noob | hello. I use etch. I have installed amarok, xmms, realplayer and still I have a lot of online radios that I can't listen live. links like : |
| 08:55.46 | noob | http://encoder2.rdsnet.ro:8000/live |
| 08:55.46 | mutante | " The Bush administration is objecting to the creation of a .xxx domain, saying it has concerns about a virtual red-light district reserved exclusively for Internet pornography. " |
| 08:56.08 | noob | or http://80.86.106.34:8000/fm64.m3u |
| 08:56.18 | Heyu | thats ok |
| 08:56.24 | noob | which works fine in windows don't work here |
| 08:56.31 | Supaplex | any idjiot knows most of the sites on the internet are for pr0n geeeze |
| 08:56.41 | noob | any help? |
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| 08:57.03 | Heyu | too deep for me |
| 08:57.04 | elnovato | noob: sorry i dont have sound card |
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| 08:57.18 | foKs|ZzZZ | Supaplex: thank you! |
| 08:57.25 | hit | Eulex yes it installed |
| 08:57.33 | hit | Eulex thanks |
| 08:57.45 | Supaplex | but bush is an *exceptional* idjiot :) |
| 08:57.59 | Heyu | got ya |
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| 08:58.06 | mutante | noob: hmm, i guess people wont like the thought ,but what about "winamp" inside "wine" ? shrug |
| 08:58.30 | nlewis_ | how do i symlink from gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.3? |
| 08:58.38 | deadcat | no politic in #debian please. not everyone is american and care about american politic |
| 08:58.52 | deadcat | nlewis_: ln -sf |
| 08:59.17 | noob | mutante: I did not tried |
| 08:59.26 | noob | but I know those are working |
| 08:59.37 | noob | they should work in linux |
| 08:59.55 | noob | I have a friend with debian/sid |
| 08:59.59 | noob | and can listen |
| 09:00.00 | mutante | can you find out what the difference is to those that work? |
| 09:00.08 | mutante | maybe by asking the admins? |
| 09:00.09 | nlewis_ | " ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.3" to what? |
| 09:00.14 | Heyu | how can i make work the real media player in my boot disk |
| 09:00.17 | noob | I have to compare package list |
| 09:00.19 | noob | or what |
| 09:00.20 | deadcat | nlewis_: to gcc. what do you think |
| 09:00.20 | noob | ? |
| 09:00.21 | Eulex | noob, what application did you try to open it in? |
| 09:00.32 | noob | \xmms, amarok, realplayer |
| 09:00.42 | Heyu | tx |
| 09:00.57 | Eulex | noob, and what happens? |
| 09:01.26 | noob | I get the same error message : could not open ......... |
| 09:01.37 | Eulex | noob, could not open what? |
| 09:01.49 | Heyu | ms |
| 09:02.12 | noob | wait a sec to try now |
| 09:02.13 | nlewis_ | sorry man, its three in the morning where i am, and i've been tryin to get this madwifi dirver working all day |
| 09:02.30 | noob | do you have a preference xmms,amarok,realplayer ? |
| 09:02.31 | elnovato | 5am again darn |
| 09:02.43 | noob | Eulex ? |
| 09:02.51 | Eulex | noob, xmms, that's the one I'm most familiar with |
| 09:03.03 | deadcat | elnovato: so? its 9am here. |
| 09:03.04 | Heyu | I just want to make it work |
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| 09:03.30 | elnovato | deadcat: just commenting |
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| 09:04.05 | Eulex | nlewis_, ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc -- or you could try setting the CC environment variable |
| 09:04.51 | \amethyst | probably want to do that with a diversion |
| 09:05.01 | \amethyst | otherwise upgrades to the gcc package will replace it |
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| 09:05.11 | Eulex | \amethyst, yeah. |
| 09:05.34 | nlewis_ | thanx Eulex, a pint on the house for you |
| 09:05.53 | \amethyst | nlewis_: dpkg-divert --add --rename /usr/bin/gcc --local --divert /usr/bin/gcc.orig |
| 09:05.58 | \amethyst | nlewis_: then change the link |
| 09:06.02 | noob | Eulex : xmms does nothing . It just stays and do nothing |
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| 09:06.16 | \amethyst | nlewis_: that way the link will stay put when you upgrade the gcc package |
| 09:06.24 | noob | although I get an error message when I open xmms |
| 09:06.35 | Eulex | noob, what error? |
| 09:06.51 | Heyu | noob having problems |
| 09:06.59 | noob | Message: device: default |
| 09:06.59 | noob | DBAudioLib ERROR: could not create shared memory for system data. |
| 09:06.59 | noob | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.59 | noob | plugin init.c: failed to init dbaudiolib. |
| 09:06.59 | noob | NON FATAL to xmms, but dbmix plugin will not work... |
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| 09:07.11 | jfs | are there packages available for GEAM, an gnupg mta-proxy that de- and encrypts mails on-the-fly? unofficial? |
| 09:07.21 | nlewis_ | thanx amethyst |
| 09:07.32 | Heyu | By |
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| 09:07.47 | sdvsdg | how do i set up my internet? |
| 09:07.47 | noob | ok I pasted too much |
| 09:07.49 | Eulex | noob, please don't paste in the channel, use pastebin instead |
| 09:07.52 | noob | ok |
| 09:07.57 | noob | my mistake |
| 09:08.07 | Eulex | noob, could you install the small command line program mpg123 and try to play a file with it and see what it says? |
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| 09:08.14 | noob | ok |
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| 09:08.23 | noob | I think I have mpg123 |
| 09:08.29 | bunghole | can one put together a cd iso via jigdo and use the hd media installer? |
| 09:08.44 | sdvsdg | how do i enable my ethernet card? |
| 09:08.54 | Eulex | bunghole, hd meda installer? |
| 09:09.08 | Eulex | sdvsdg, vendor, product, chipset? |
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| 09:09.17 | sdvsdg | in debain linux w/gnome |
| 09:09.22 | bunghole | Eulex, if don't know abou tit, don't worry about it |
| 09:09.27 | sdvsdg | its a linksys |
| 09:09.47 | Eulex | sdvsdg, pci? |
| 09:09.56 | sdvsdg | 8x |
| 09:10.03 | Eulex | eh? |
| 09:10.15 | Eulex | sdvsdg, is it a pci ethernet card? |
| 09:10.16 | sdvsdg | its a pci fom 2001 |
| 09:10.20 | sdvsdg | yes |
| 09:10.29 | sdvsdg | eulex: yes |
| 09:10.37 | dn4 | does anyone here know if debian supporst LEAF? |
| 09:10.38 | \amethyst | sdvsdg: the output of lspci | grep Ethernet may be helpful |
| 09:10.53 | Eulex | sdvsdg, what's the exact product name? and do as \amethyst said |
| 09:11.06 | bunghole | is etch stable enough to use as an everyday desktop os? |
| 09:11.07 | Eulex | dn4, what's LEAF? |
| 09:11.19 | bunghole | I don't know the current state of development on it |
| 09:11.29 | sdvsdg | okay 1 sex |
| 09:11.43 | Eulex | bunghole, yes, if you know a little more than the basics of package management in debian. |
| 09:12.04 | bunghole | a couple of years I been with debian |
| 09:12.26 | bunghole | Eulex, what do you mean by little more? |
| 09:12.34 | sdvsdg | Intel corp. 80801ba/bam/ca/cam Ethernet controller |
| 09:12.39 | sdvsdg | 9rev 03 |
| 09:12.46 | sdvsdg | oops |
| 09:13.00 | sdvsdg | 1 sex |
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| 09:13.03 | Eulex | bunghole, if you've use debian for a couple of years, you should be able to handle testing. |
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| 09:14.00 | noob | Eulex : nothing hapens when I play m3u with mpg123. It just stays. No errror - nothing ; although when I try mpg123 local.mp3 is working fine |
| 09:14.05 | sdvsdg | network controller: broadcom corp. bcm4306 802.11b/g wireless lan controller (i am using this one) |
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| 09:14.32 | \amethyst | sdvsdg: oh, it's wireless.... I don't know anything about wireless |
| 09:14.33 | Eulex | noob, sounds like you just ahve to turn up your volumes. |
| 09:14.51 | Heyu | ya |
| 09:15.14 | noob | all my volumes are up in alsamixer |
| 09:15.23 | bunghole | Eulex, I have been running sid for a couple of years on a broken screen laptop |
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| 09:15.49 | Eulex | bunghole, you should be able to handle testing very well then. |
| 09:15.50 | Supaplex | humm so you telnet into your laptop? |
| 09:16.02 | Supaplex | ;) external monitor ++ |
| 09:16.12 | Eulex | sdvsdg, you'll need to use ndiswrapper for that one |
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| 09:16.39 | bunghole | Eulex, its not about that, I need to run it as half a server and half a desktop system, sid can't do server, sarge is too old for a shiny desktop |
| 09:16.40 | derek6543 | hello |
| 09:16.45 | bunghole | its decisions everywhere man |
| 09:16.48 | bunghole | !!! |
| 09:16.48 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 09:17.01 | bunghole | !!! |
| 09:17.01 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 09:17.04 | bunghole | ahaha |
| 09:17.05 | bunghole | word |
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| 09:17.27 | DUMAiSO | !help |
| 09:17.43 | Heyu | ....... |
| 09:18.00 | Eulex | bunghole, that should be ok. server stuff rarely breaks in testing, it's mostly the desktop stuff that occasionally breaks |
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| 09:18.31 | Supaplex | and pam every so often. *smirk* |
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| 09:19.14 | hit | Eulex: Start FCITX error. Another XIM daemon named fcitx is running? |
| 09:19.33 | hit | Eulex: how to resolve this problem? |
| 09:19.45 | Eulex | Supaplex, hasn't happened to me yet. maybe because I've just been on debian testing for a year. |
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| 09:19.58 | ah`kin[de | i use scim :P instead of fcitx |
| 09:20.10 | Eulex | hit, I can't help you there. most info on the net on fcitx seems to be in chinese. |
| 09:20.10 | hit | scim? |
| 09:20.27 | ah`kin[de | u use to input japanese, chinse or korean ? |
| 09:20.36 | hit | chinese |
| 09:20.42 | hit | Start FCITX error. Another XIM daemon named fcitx is running? |
| 09:20.46 | deadcat | !u |
| 09:20.46 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:20.50 | Supaplex | Eulex: I don't think it'll happen again anytime soon. I just remember the flood of people that would ask that question, and had no clue wth we meant when we asked if they checked bts, or updated the sources.list :) |
| 09:20.51 | ah`kin[de | i use scim to input |
| 09:21.11 | Eulex | Supaplex, hehe :) |
| 09:21.16 | ah`kin[de | hit, ni hao~~ |
| 09:22.09 | hit | haha |
| 09:22.27 | elnovato | hit: tar Chun li ? |
| 09:22.31 | ah`kin[de | for more information about chinese debian , u can refer to http://debian.linuxsir.org |
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| 09:22.46 | hit | elnovato ? |
| 09:22.50 | hit | bu bing bai |
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| 09:23.35 | hit | ah`kin[de : scim can type simple chinese character? |
| 09:23.36 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.42 | ah`kin[de | i use scim to input chinese character |
| 09:23.48 | ah`kin[de | yes.. u can :P |
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| 09:23.53 | Supaplex | !cn |
| 09:23.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 09:23.56 | Eclipser | !u |
| 09:23.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:23.58 | hit | ok |
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| 09:24.41 | ah`kin[de | hit, i used b4.. but i no more use now cause my debian acts as server now.. no need chinese input.. |
| 09:24.50 | Supaplex | !b4 |
| 09:24.50 | dpkg | try "before", moron. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO! |
| 09:24.50 | ah`kin[de | apt-cache more scim <-- u can see what |
| 09:24.56 | hit | ah`kin[de : apt-get install scim only ? |
| 09:25.07 | ah`kin[de | apt-cache more scim <-- u see 1st.. |
| 09:25.22 | hit | ok |
| 09:25.29 | ah`kin[de | apt-cache search scim <-- there is a lot, but i forget which one already.. if can install all :P haha.. |
| 09:26.01 | elnovato | scim support russian character set? |
| 09:26.36 | ah`kin[de | elnovato , u can apt-cache search scim and see if there have russian tables, it should be supported |
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| 09:27.14 | elnovato | seems not |
| 09:27.16 | hit | ... |
| 09:27.23 | Heyu | ..... |
| 09:27.42 | kevix | elnovato: I think just cjk |
| 09:27.56 | ah`kin[de | elnovato , u use sid ? |
| 09:28.01 | elnovato | etch |
| 09:28.12 | ah`kin[de | wait.. i upgrade my server now.. |
| 09:28.15 | \amethyst | elnovato: in gnome apps in sid, I get the option to use cyrillic |
| 09:28.18 | ftroop | hi newb question here but can i update the kernel with apt? |
| 09:28.35 | kevix | ftroop: yes. |
| 09:28.36 | ah`kin[de | ftroop, apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 09:28.42 | elnovato | omg, ill endup at sid i guess |
| 09:28.44 | streuner | ftroop: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 09:28.50 | \amethyst | elnovato: under Input Methods in the context menu of text fields |
| 09:29.07 | \amethyst | elnovato: earlier versions might have it too. I don't *think* I have any special input method packages installed |
| 09:29.13 | \amethyst | I definitely don't have uim |
| 09:29.23 | elnovato | thanks |
| 09:29.34 | ftroop | 2.3.5-13 |
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| 09:30.09 | streuner | ftroop: tell us the full output |
| 09:30.17 | kevix | ftroop: if yu are running sarge, then its called kernel-image other wise its NOW called linux-image |
| 09:30.31 | ftroop | ii libc6 2.3.5-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 09:30.33 | ftroop | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.35 | ftroop | |
| 09:30.55 | ah`kin[de | testing :P etch |
| 09:30.59 | Eulex | ftroop, apt-cache search linux-image |
| 09:31.04 | |yang| | I am having a problem with my server compaq...It has ISA slots upside, and whenever I stick another ISA UTP ethernet card inside it complains about starting hard disks...all reports go as FAILED. The UTP ethernet card sits correctly in the slot, and I also get a welcome BIOS screen at the start. |
| 09:31.13 | ftroop | thankyou |
| 09:31.21 | mutante | they renamed kernel-image to linux-image? oh is that a sign of "Debian GNU/Hurd" coming closer? |
| 09:31.22 | elnovato | whos using Sid here? |
| 09:31.39 | \amethyst | |yang|: is one of the hard drives on a strange IRQ? |
| 09:31.44 | ah`kin[de | elnovato , i did b4.. |
| 09:31.52 | \amethyst | s/drives/drive controllers/ |
| 09:32.00 | zerodni | elnovato, i am |
| 09:32.20 | |yang| | amethyst: those are scsi drives |
| 09:32.22 | streuner | elnovato: why? |
| 09:32.22 | elnovato | zerodni: all fine ?? |
| 09:32.30 | kevix | mutante: yes. as well as Debian Gnu/Kfreebsd |
| 09:32.35 | zerodni | elnovato, yeah |
| 09:32.48 | \amethyst | |yang|: is it possible the ethernet card conflicts with the SCSI? |
| 09:32.49 | elnovato | considering to switch to sid |
| 09:32.50 | streuner | elnovato: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 09:32.55 | zerodni | elnovato, i wouldnt recomend it for production but its works fine |
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| 09:33.12 | \amethyst | |yang|: in IRQ or IO address space? |
| 09:33.43 | |yang| | amethyst: Well it looks like it does, becouse without UTP card, my server starts in order |
| 09:33.57 | coywolf | new size is same as current. << I should add `the' before `same'. right? |
| 09:34.04 | dn4 | Does anyone here know a of a good how to on setting up a wireless router with an eth0 as a gateway, and the ath0 as the LAN? |
| 09:34.07 | rvalles | 10:31:12 < elnovato> whos using Sid here? |
| 09:34.10 | \amethyst | |yang|: does the ethernet card have DIP switches, or is it PnP? |
| 09:34.13 | rvalles | I am <3 on my router. |
| 09:34.30 | rvalles | I believe there's nothing to see in there, tho. |
| 09:34.32 | \amethyst | coywolf: the new size is the same as the current |
| 09:34.44 | \amethyst | coywolf: English uses a lot of articles :) |
| 09:34.54 | \amethyst | not as many as French, though |
| 09:34.54 | |yang| | amethyst: its an very old NIC without switches...it still has bnc |
| 09:35.20 | \amethyst | |yang|: hm... probably not PnP either then. Do you have a manual for the card, or can you find one online? |
| 09:35.25 | coywolf | \amethyst, are you enlish speaking? |
| 09:35.33 | \amethyst | coywolf: yes, native English speaker |
| 09:35.48 | coywolf | \amethyst, which country? |
| 09:35.53 | \amethyst | |yang|: Is the SCSI controller also ISA? |
| 09:35.56 | \amethyst | coywolf: US |
| 09:36.19 | |yang| | amethyst its a scsi server |
| 09:36.26 | coywolf | \amethyst, ok, i'll take your advice |
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| 09:36.32 | ah`kin[de | elnovato , i cant private msg u.. |
| 09:36.34 | \amethyst | |yang|: I wasn't sure just how ancient the computer was :) |
| 09:37.02 | \amethyst | |yang|: Is it possible that it's trying to boot off the ethernet card? |
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| 09:37.42 | kevix | \amethyst: if that was the case, wouldn't you need to change the bios settings? |
| 09:37.42 | |yang| | amethyst another thing that i figured out and its preety strange to me is that there are 3x ISA and 5x PCI slots on motherboard, but ISA sticks inside well, while PCI fails for 3mm |
| 09:37.54 | \amethyst | |yang|: Does the eth card have a socketed PROM or flash on it? |
| 09:38.01 | \amethyst | kevix: you'd need to disable it on the card |
| 09:38.09 | \amethyst | kevix: since it's ancient ISA |
| 09:38.32 | \amethyst | kevix: I think... |
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| 09:38.42 | kevix | \amethyst: wow sounds like stuff from the '90's |
| 09:38.56 | elnovato | jezz i forgot my password at nicksrv |
| 09:39.00 | elnovato | anyway to reset it? |
| 09:39.06 | \amethyst | sounds like early 90s in the case of the eth card |
| 09:39.07 | |yang| | amethyst ... one cards is allready incorporated into the server on behind, now i need antoher one in order to make server a router |
| 09:39.13 | elnovato | ah`kin: yeah seems not :( |
| 09:39.27 | ah`kin | too bad.. |
| 09:39.37 | \amethyst | |yang|: what do you mean by "sticks inside well" and "fails for 3mm"? |
| 09:39.42 | ah`kin | fcitx supported russian input ? |
| 09:39.43 | kevix | |yang|: do you have any other cards.... try those.... |
| 09:39.59 | elnovato | good nite, marry carnival |
| 09:40.11 | ah`kin | nite, dude |
| 09:40.40 | kevix | |yang|: if its 3mm, get a saw x-) |
| 09:40.42 | |yang| | amethyst : I cannot stick inside PCI card it misses the slot for 3mm too short |
| 09:41.23 | \amethyst | |yang|: are you certain it's ISA? |
| 09:41.29 | \amethyst | |yang|: how old is this computer? |
| 09:41.40 | \amethyst | |yang|: Pentium, 486, ...? |
| 09:41.50 | \amethyst | s/ISA/PCI/ |
| 09:41.51 | coywolf | \amethyst, the context is |
| 09:41.59 | coywolf | prodigy:~/scm/ext2resize/src> ./ext2resize test_img |
| 09:41.59 | coywolf | ext2resize v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b |
| 09:41.59 | coywolf | ext2resize: new size is same as current (10240) |
| 09:42.02 | coywolf | sorry, |
| 09:42.04 | coywolf | 3 lines |
| 09:42.07 | \amethyst | coywolf: aha |
| 09:42.15 | coywolf | \amethyst, what should I fix it to? |
| 09:42.25 | sdvsdg | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.26 | \amethyst | coywolf: as an error message, it's actually okay |
| 09:42.45 | \amethyst | coywolf: well, for someone used to Unix :) |
| 09:42.58 | \amethyst | coywolf: That's how it would be written in a newspaper headline |
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| 09:43.23 | Lorvija | hey, i got winxp comp with what i do some pretty cpu intensive stuff and i got debian box on LAN which does rarely nothing. Is there anyway to make winxp use debian box's resources(cpu etc)? |
| 09:43.48 | kevix | coywolf: why compile ext2resize when its in debian? |
| 09:44.06 | paivakil | Lorvija: you should ask to M$ |
| 09:44.12 | coywolf | \amethyst, so as error message, it's like headline? and I needn't add `the' to `same'? |
| 09:44.35 | coywolf | kevix, i am its maintainer |
| 09:44.36 | \amethyst | coywolf: You don't need to, but it wouldn't hurt. |
| 09:44.36 | Lorvija | paivakil well ye... (: i just happen to be here so thought if someone has done something like this |
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| 09:45.04 | \amethyst | coywolf: other people may disagree :) |
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| 09:45.14 | paivakil | It is an XP problem if XP wants to access a debian box |
| 09:45.23 | paivakil | rather, use its resources |
| 09:45.40 | |yang| | amethyst its a p400 scsi server |
| 09:45.46 | Lorvija | paivakil well ye, but again i was just thinking if someone here has done it earlier somehow (: |
| 09:46.01 | \amethyst | |yang|: hm.. okay, so it's not old enough to have microchannel or anything like that |
| 09:46.15 | kevix | coywolf: ok. wilmer, still ... apt-get install ext2resize. its the debian thing to do x-) |
| 09:46.24 | \amethyst | |yang|: not sure what's up with it. Maybe you can find some compaq documentation online? |
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| 09:47.02 | |yang| | amethy yeah i will try |
| 09:47.30 | coywolf | kevix, what do you thnk about the error message? |
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| 09:48.41 | kevix | coywolf: are asking if it an error, are you asking if its an informative message, or what? |
| 09:49.28 | coywolf | kevix, of grammer |
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| 09:50.26 | coywolf | kevix, should I correct the message: ext2resize: new size is same as current (10240) |
| 09:50.36 | kevix | coywolf: ok. ... : new size is the same as the current size (10240 UNITS) |
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| 09:50.49 | \amethyst | oh, that's true |
| 09:50.54 | \amethyst | you should have the unit in there |
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| 09:51.35 | \amethyst | coywolf: As I said, others may disagree. Some people prefer their error messages to have literary grammar :) |
| 09:51.46 | coywolf | the unit is block kevix \amethyst |
| 09:51.57 | \amethyst | coywolf: then (10240 blocks) |
| 09:52.52 | kevix | coywolf: nobody ever complained about long informative error messages and at the worst it adds a few bytes x-) |
| 09:53.13 | \amethyst | Maybe it should depend on whether your locale is EN or C |
| 09:53.14 | \amethyst | :) |
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| 09:54.02 | coywolf | ok, i'll take: new size is the same as the current (XXX) |
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| 09:54.30 | kevix | \amethyst: I've yet to meet anyone who speaks 'C', I speak 'en' x-) |
| 09:54.41 | kevix | coywolf: seems ok. |
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| 09:55.24 | kevix | coywolf: what about: size unchanged |
| 09:55.31 | \amethyst | kevix: I get annoyed when 'a' sorts before 'B'... it shoudl come after 'Z', dammit :) |
| 09:55.42 | \amethyst | kevix: so maybe I do speak the C locale |
| 09:55.58 | coywolf | kevix, should be, but i'd not add too much. |
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| 10:00.17 | dn4 | what does hostapd do? |
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| 10:02.21 | \amethyst | dn4: from what I can tell, it makes your computer an access point |
| 10:02.24 | kevix | dn4: apt-cache show hostapd |
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| 10:04.54 | dn4 | word |
| 10:05.03 | dn4 | so hostapd would help regulate an access point |
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| 10:06.05 | \amethyst | I'm not too familiar with wireless technology myself |
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| 10:06.18 | \amethyst | They haven't invented radio here in Kentucky yet. |
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| 10:07.25 | kevix | \amethyst: but they make a mean fried chicken! |
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| 10:07.51 | \amethyst | There's a bust of the Colonel in our state Capitol |
| 10:07.59 | \amethyst | I shit you not |
| 10:08.09 | HPS`Fresh | guys, i had to choose a VNC-clien application. which is the best for kde? |
| 10:08.36 | \amethyst | Pamela Anderson was in the news here recently for trying to get it removed |
| 10:08.37 | Eulex | HPS`Fresh, what server are you using? |
| 10:08.40 | kevix | HPS`Fresh: you are not limited to kde-based apps... |
| 10:08.55 | kevix | \amethyst: she's gone all PETA |
| 10:09.09 | HPS`Fresh | Eulex i do`nt it`s integret in my KVMoverIP switch |
| 10:09.18 | dn4 | \amethyst, a bust of the Colonel? |
| 10:09.37 | Eulex | HPS`Fresh, choose whatever vnc client you want. |
| 10:09.40 | HPS`Fresh | kevix i know :) but i`d like it be more pleasure to look |
| 10:09.47 | \amethyst | dn4: Colonel Sanders |
| 10:09.56 | \amethyst | the KFC guy |
| 10:10.08 | HPS`Fresh | Eulex :) ok. and which one is looks beter? |
| 10:10.31 | dn4 | Does anyone know how to write a firewall shell script with masq rules + dns/dhcp services? |
| 10:11.00 | Eulex | HPS`Fresh, none, they all look equally good. but there seems to be a vnc client made especially for kde, krdc |
| 10:11.50 | HPS`Fresh | Eulex thnx! yes :) i`m using it for conect to my winbox |
| 10:12.11 | coywolf | is configure.in manually written or auto gernerated? |
| 10:12.35 | Eulex | coywolf, manually written |
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| 10:12.40 | frup | lo |
| 10:13.10 | coywolf | !dnl |
| 10:13.27 | frup | someone know if ipv6.chat.freenode.net has problem of some form? |
| 10:13.42 | coywolf | Eulex, what is dnl? |
| 10:13.58 | Eulex | coywolf, dungeons and lighting? ;) |
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| 10:14.13 | coywolf | Eulex, ah |
| 10:14.17 | niklaus | i just installed debian |
| 10:14.27 | niklaus | i want to configure talk-server on this machine. how do i do it |
| 10:14.28 | \amethyst | dpkg, dnl is a comment in m4 |
| 10:14.28 | dpkg | okay, \amethyst |
| 10:14.46 | Eulex | coywolf, ;) -- http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Adnl&btnG=Google+Search |
| 10:14.54 | kevix | niklaus: chat server? |
| 10:14.56 | coywolf | dnl Process this file with autoconf to produce a configure script |
| 10:14.58 | Eulex | \amethyst, ah |
| 10:15.07 | shining | does anyone use dualhead with i810 driver? |
| 10:15.08 | coywolf | !dnl |
| 10:15.08 | dpkg | it has been said that dnl is a comment in m4 |
| 10:15.11 | \amethyst | coywolf: stands for 'delete to new line' |
| 10:15.15 | Eulex | that's true. I think I've seen it before. |
| 10:15.24 | coywolf | thanks \amethyst |
| 10:15.26 | niklaus | kevix, yes talk server |
| 10:15.38 | Eulex | shining, very likely, but I don't. |
| 10:15.39 | dn4 | apt-get install myfirewallshellscriptplz |
| 10:15.39 | niklaus | which i can use to talk with another person |
| 10:15.52 | niklaus | where the screen is split into 2 |
| 10:16.10 | shining | I guess debian's xorg is not yet fixed |
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| 10:16.32 | \amethyst | niklaus: there are a number of packages for talk |
| 10:16.37 | \amethyst | niklaus: gtalk is one |
| 10:16.44 | kevix | niklaus: you mean the UNIX talk ? |
| 10:16.46 | shining | there was a bug upstream for ages, it finally has been fixed upstream but I believe it's only in 7.0 cvs |
| 10:16.50 | coywolf | !m4 |
| 10:16.50 | dpkg | well, m4 is utter crap |
| 10:16.56 | \amethyst | haha |
| 10:17.00 | coywolf | :o |
| 10:17.00 | \amethyst | true, dat |
| 10:17.09 | \amethyst | it's a macro language |
| 10:17.10 | shining | it's only a few lines change, it would be nice if it could be integrated in debian |
| 10:17.33 | MadCypher | how many CDs for the debian Install? |
| 10:17.41 | \amethyst | which is often used for writing configuration files... autoconf is written in m4 |
| 10:17.43 | Eulex | shining, file a bug report |
| 10:18.05 | kevix | niklaus: apt-get install talk |
| 10:18.41 | \amethyst | I first encountered this abomination when generating sendmail.cf |
| 10:18.49 | kevix | MadCypher: most folks only need the first 2 cd's. but it depends on what you want to install. |
| 10:19.00 | \amethyst | Not so long ago that you had to write your own sendmail.cf, though |
| 10:19.02 | coywolf | autoconf is based on m4 imho \amethyst |
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| 10:19.21 | \amethyst | that might be a better way to phrase it |
| 10:19.24 | Eulex | MadCypher, have you got a fast wired internet connection on the computer you want to install debian on? |
| 10:19.33 | \amethyst | `written in' gives it too much dignity as a programming language |
| 10:19.59 | kevix | Eulex: I have a 'fast' dialup x-) |
| 10:20.08 | niklaus | kevix, yes i have the client but i need the server |
| 10:20.13 | niklaus | \amethyst, i need the server |
| 10:20.16 | coywolf | dpkg, m4 is autoconf is based on m4 |
| 10:20.16 | dpkg | ...but m4 is already something else... |
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| 10:20.38 | kevix | niklaus: apt-get install talkd |
| 10:20.40 | TonyStark | hello to everyone |
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| 10:21.08 | Eulex | kevix, well, I mean, non-dialup and at least a few times faster than 56k dialup |
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| 10:21.31 | TonyStark | i'm havin gtrouble with my agp card, it does stick to pci mode, x.org.log says it is because agpgart module got loaded before the card module (radeon) for dri... what can i do about this? |
| 10:21.36 | Eulex | dpkg, no, m4 is autoconf is based on m4 |
| 10:21.36 | dpkg | okay, Eulex |
| 10:21.40 | Eulex | !m4 |
| 10:21.41 | dpkg | it has been said that m4 is autoconf is based on m4 |
| 10:21.53 | kevix | Eulex: once you have the base install, any net connectioin will get you what you want (slowly of course) |
| 10:22.17 | niklaus | kevix, i don't but it doesn't work i tried it |
| 10:22.22 | kevix | TonyStark: change the order in /etc/modules ? |
| 10:22.32 | \amethyst | dpkg, no, m4 is a macro language on which autoconf is based |
| 10:22.32 | dpkg | okay, \amethyst |
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| 10:22.38 | Eulex | kevix, of course, but most people can't afford having their phone line blocked for a few days :) |
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| 10:22.51 | kevix | niklaus: I thought you just talk user@host ? |
| 10:22.52 | TonyStark | kevix, i have yet done that, the order are agpart; radeon, and it didn't work eeither so... |
| 10:22.54 | Eulex | \amethyst, yeah, that's a better wording |
| 10:22.58 | shining | Eulex: hmm ok |
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| 10:23.27 | niklaus | kevix, yes but i need to configure the server |
| 10:23.27 | Eulex | !bts |
| 10:23.28 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:23.50 | Eulex | shining, ^^ |
| 10:23.55 | shining | thanks |
| 10:24.20 | Eulex | yw :) |
| 10:24.20 | dn4 | http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/02/18/066218.shtml |
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| 10:24.56 | TonyStark | i'm havin gtrouble with my agp card, it does stick to pci mode, x.org.log says it is because agpgart module got loaded before the card module (radeon) for dri... what can i do about this? |
| 10:25.22 | Eulex | dn4, oooo, state-wide big brother :) |
| 10:25.51 | shining | TonyStark: what do you mean by stick to pci mode? |
| 10:25.51 | Eulex | TonyStark, put the modules in the right order in /etc/modules |
| 10:25.57 | dn4 | Eulex, don't get me started |
| 10:26.04 | Eulex | hehe |
| 10:26.17 | TonyStark | shining, it sin't in agp mode, it only works in pci mode |
| 10:26.25 | TonyStark | Eulex, they are yet |
| 10:26.39 | shining | how do you know? |
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| 10:27.27 | TonyStark | shinig by the /var/log/x.org.log ;D |
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| 10:28.05 | Coke | Good morning! How does Debian know what DHCP client to use when interfaces states "dhcp"? |
| 10:28.07 | coywolf | what the difference b/w configure.ac and configure.in? |
| 10:28.36 | Eulex | TonyStark, "they are yet"? you mean, they are already? |
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| 10:29.11 | TonyStark | Eulex, yes, "they are already" (sorry for my bad english) |
| 10:29.25 | cppnewbie | whoops |
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| 10:29.47 | nassos | hello, i just got debian amd64 and im experiencing some probs installing it |
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| 10:30.11 | shining | try the normal version :) |
| 10:30.17 | Eulex | TonyStark, ok. dunno then :) |
| 10:30.29 | TonyStark | shining, is it for me? |
| 10:30.30 | nassos | shining that was for me? |
| 10:30.36 | TonyStark | hahahaha |
| 10:30.39 | nassos | rofl |
| 10:30.39 | shining | lol |
| 10:30.42 | shining | for nassos |
| 10:30.50 | TonyStark | shining ok ;D |
| 10:30.59 | nassos | well shining its a bit big to download again |
| 10:31.01 | nassos | :'( |
| 10:31.03 | shining | TonyStark: for you I don't know, your problem looks really weird |
| 10:31.17 | TonyStark | Eulex, something wit /etc/modprobe.d or /etc/modutils maybe? |
| 10:31.30 | shining | TonyStark: could you paste your Xorg log somewhere? |
| 10:31.32 | nassos | lemme tell u what the prob is. debootstrap(return value 1) and some error with /target. |
| 10:31.55 | TonyStark | shining, I think it is something about /etc/modprobe.d or /etc/modutils.. |
| 10:32.03 | TonyStark | shining, of course, pastebin.com? |
| 10:32.11 | shining | for example |
| 10:32.38 | \amethyst | coywolf: as far as I can tell, there is no difference between the two |
| 10:32.48 | Luftzig | hi, I followed the nvidia one liner, and when I try to "modprobe nvidia" I get "FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device" |
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| 10:33.03 | coywolf | thanks \amethyst |
| 10:33.18 | shining | Luftzig: it means you don't have a nvidia card, or a supported one I guess |
| 10:33.58 | pusling | how do I 'unhold' a package ? |
| 10:34.04 | sdvsdg | what is the command to start KDE? |
| 10:34.13 | nassos | "anyone that helps me with this one?" seems a bit large to redownload another version |
| 10:34.27 | pusling | sdvsdg: startxde ? |
| 10:34.37 | sdvsdg | no the initzde one |
| 10:34.47 | sdvsdg | but i spelt it incorrect |
| 10:34.54 | Neverth | Luftzig, is it old card, if its old card (riva and such) try nvidia driver 4xxx instead |
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| 10:35.03 | nico881 | hi |
| 10:35.06 | pusling | sdvsdg: /etc/init.d/kdm start ? |
| 10:35.32 | Luftzig | Neverth, it is a riva card, what is this driver? |
| 10:35.34 | Eulex | nassos, how much did you download? |
| 10:35.45 | nassos | what do u mean eulex? |
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| 10:35.49 | Neverth | Luftzig, get older driver from nvidia-site |
| 10:35.54 | TonyStark | shining, http://pastebin.com/560875, I have put the lines before all the /var/log/Xorg.0.log... |
| 10:35.55 | ootput | is there a way for me to darcs record a patch without specifying the patch name? |
| 10:35.58 | Eulex | nassos, what did you download to get debian? |
| 10:36.01 | sdvsdg | what is command to exit gnome |
| 10:36.02 | mrverbose | anyone familiar with openct and pcscd? i have been unable to get pcscd running via the openct backend on a cardman 4000 pcmcia reader |
| 10:36.05 | nassos | i mean like i downloaded the torrent thru the site |
| 10:36.15 | Luftzig | Neverth, and then how I should install it? |
| 10:36.18 | nassos | instant dl is a bit big for me |
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| 10:36.34 | Eulex | nassos, that is, all 14 cds? |
| 10:36.43 | nassos | 1 dvd |
| 10:36.49 | nassos | 2dvds |
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| 10:36.57 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 10:37.00 | mrverbose | why not use the bussinesscard-cd an install from ftp? |
| 10:37.06 | Neverth | Luftzig, download the package and run it as root http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html |
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| 10:37.17 | Eulex | nassos, ok. if you have a fast wired internet connection to the computer you want to install debian on, just get the netinstall. |
| 10:37.21 | mrverbose | that would mean 100MB download and of course the packages you want to install |
| 10:37.21 | Luftzig | Neverth, thanks |
| 10:37.39 | |yang| | amethyst I bought PCI NIC and it fitted well inside, also got inititalised... Can you tell me how to disable all these "lots" of messages from dmesg for NIC ...http://pastebin.com/560877 |
| 10:37.48 | nassos | eulex, i cant connect to the net. not thru knoppix not thru anywhere while im using linux |
| 10:37.58 | YogSothoth | My Debian server is coming unresponsive. My httpd server is down. I can't write to filesystem, it says that it's read only. even with a ls or a cat I got : File system error: Input/output error |
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| 10:38.03 | YogSothoth | What's going on ? |
| 10:38.19 | Eulex | YogSothoth, sounds like hardware problems. |
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| 10:38.29 | YogSothoth | Eulex: can it be disk full ? |
| 10:39.07 | nassos | and eulex my net connection isnt as fast. 384kbps |
