| 00:00.03 | Osiqes | and the same error appear |
| 00:00.03 | Osiqes | :( |
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| 00:00.32 | Tortel | kspath: Well, my computer runs as a webserver, and I would like to see where people are that visit my site. I found a package called 'xt' which should work |
| 00:00.45 | streuner | Osiqes: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 00:01.09 | cem_ | how do i get dvd's to play in linux |
| 00:01.10 | cem_ | ? |
| 00:01.12 | Supaplex | Tortel: check the config for any log directives |
| 00:01.24 | cem_ | in debian |
| 00:01.27 | Gnea | !dvd |
| 00:01.28 | dpkg | i guess dvd is use xine (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss, or ask me about libdvdcss |
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| 00:01.54 | cem_ | !libdvdcss |
| 00:01.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh |
| 00:01.58 | streuner | Osiqes: mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/gzip.* /tmp |
| 00:02.06 | streuner | Osiqes: apt-get -f install |
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| 00:02.37 | DaDave | is there a good "Wlan NEtwork Manager" tool for gnome available? |
| 00:02.37 | thingfish | !tell cem_ about marillat |
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| 00:02.41 | gloin | anyhow, thanks for the help kspath... I'm off to less-noisy channels |
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| 00:03.05 | AnonymousHive | Question: Can I upgrade to Etch from Sarge just by setting all my offical repos to testing/main and then running apt-get update/upgrade? |
| 00:03.06 | kspath | gloin: I am sorry I did not help |
| 00:03.06 | Supaplex | DaDave: other then a sysadmin? elaborate |
| 00:03.20 | kspath | gloin: I just hope I did not add confusion |
| 00:03.28 | Osiqes | streauner |
| 00:03.31 | Osiqes | don't work |
| 00:03.36 | Osiqes | but i mv iso-codes. * |
| 00:03.40 | Osiqes | and now Work |
| 00:03.46 | Osiqes | but said a warning error |
| 00:03.49 | DaDave | Sunblade: what do you mean other than a sysadmin? |
| 00:03.51 | Osiqes | but the packet installed |
| 00:03.52 | kspath | gloin: I wanted to help but I am inadequate to the task |
| 00:03.55 | streuner | !enter |
| 00:03.55 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 00:04.29 | streuner | Osiqes: what kind of error? |
| 00:05.13 | AnonymousHive | Question: Can I upgrade to Etch from Sarge just by setting all my offical repos to testing/main and then running apt-get update/upgrade? |
| 00:05.33 | streuner | AnonymousHive: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
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| 00:07.11 | streuner | Osiqes: just ignore the warning then, error count ;-) |
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| 00:09.20 | Kovecses | is kde 3.5 useable in sid yet? |
| 00:09.23 | ootput | did anyone recently install mplayer on sid from marillat's repo? I'm getting libpolyp0 as an uninstallable dependency |
| 00:10.17 | chealer_ | Kovecses: ask #debian-kde |
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| 00:11.38 | DaDave | Supaplex: seems like netapplet fits my needs... |
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| 00:11.55 | Torvitas | hzg |
| 00:11.59 | Torvitas | !list |
| 00:11.59 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to torvitas@is.a.fucktard.com |
| 00:12.10 | Kvant | ootput, hmm, try get libpolyp0 from testing? |
| 00:12.33 | ootput | Kvant: you're using etch yourself? |
| 00:12.37 | Torvitas | does anybody here speak german? |
| 00:12.39 | Osiqes | ok |
| 00:12.41 | Osiqes | streuner |
| 00:12.47 | Osiqes | but I like haven't warnings ;) |
| 00:12.49 | Kvant | ootput, no sid, but that pkg is in testing, it seems |
| 00:12.56 | Osiqes | late I 'll dedicated time for solution |
| 00:13.03 | Osiqes | now install fluxbox! |
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| 00:13.15 | Osiqes | thanks for your help and the others.. |
| 00:13.18 | Torvitas | does anybody here speak german? |
| 00:13.30 | ootput | Kvant: i'll give it a shot |
| 00:13.30 | rge | maybe |
| 00:13.33 | bbrazil | !de |
| 00:13.33 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 00:13.44 | DaDave | !damn |
| 00:13.44 | dpkg | from memory, damn is goes to beaver mode #1. Dam building time |
| 00:14.22 | kspath | why the . instead of - ? |
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| 00:15.30 | kspath | there appears to be a small number of persons in #debian-de |
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| 00:16.03 | SerajewelKS | !why is libdbus-qt-1-dev not in testing |
| 00:16.03 | dpkg | libdbus-qt-1-dev is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libdbus-qt-1-dev |
| 00:17.01 | johnblade | link doesn't work :( |
| 00:17.30 | ootput | Kvant: you wouldn't happen to have the appropriate apt/preferences for that would you? |
| 00:17.37 | ootput | Kvant: mixing testing/sid marillat |
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| 00:18.14 | kspath | Gnea: use this iron reinforced axe handle next |
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| 00:18.39 | Gnea | kspath: oh cool, thanks, i broke my last one when i buried gnome |
| 00:18.43 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 00:18.44 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd154 is 11:41 < greycat> o/~ BREEZY, BREEZY / GIVE ME THE ANSWER, DUDE! / I INSTALLED IT / AND NOW ALL MY DISKS ARE SCREWED! o/~ (add "lol" to taste) |
| 00:18.53 | kspath | Gnea: if it tries to get up I will hold it down |
| 00:19.05 | Gnea | kspath: roger that |
| 00:19.07 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:19.08 | abrotman | Gnea: did you know E17 is a big pile of doodie? |
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| 00:19.30 | Gnea | abrotman: you haven't tried this weekend's edtion yet, have you? ;) |
| 00:19.37 | Gnea | *edition |
| 00:19.42 | ootput | e17 is fantastic |
| 00:19.43 | abrotman | Gnea: does it crash less than kde? |
| 00:19.46 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me what package transcode is in? |
| 00:19.56 | bbrazil | [Elvis]: apt-file |
| 00:20.00 | eegore | is there a suitable substitute for k3b that runs in gnome? |
| 00:20.01 | abrotman | !tell [Elvis] about search |
| 00:20.04 | [Elvis] | yeah can't find it |
| 00:20.09 | abrotman | gnomebaker .. graveman .. |
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| 00:20.17 | tyranix | Hey speaking of X :) Does anyone get a corrupted WindowMaker? After a long time (say weeks/months) my workspaces will get corrupted. |
| 00:20.29 | yel | shall i reinstall mysql ? |
| 00:20.33 | bbrazil | [Elvis]: ah mplayer |
| 00:20.35 | bbrazil | !mplayer |
| 00:20.36 | dpkg | well, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 00:20.36 | kspath | cdrecord |
| 00:20.39 | liable | [Elvis]: marillats repo |
| 00:20.42 | ootput | you shalt not |
| 00:20.45 | [Elvis] | ah k |
| 00:20.52 | Gnea | abrotman: not yet, it's always code that's work-in-progress, but it's just like running unstable: if you don't have a buttplug in place, you'll be fucked |
| 00:20.59 | eegore | ogle works |
| 00:21.09 | tyranix | None of the xterms will correctly focus and when I cycle workspaces (using the upper left hand corner icon), it starts collecting windows (so workspace 1, 2, ..., n windows are all visible). |
| 00:21.21 | tyranix | I'm using xinerama or whatever xorg calls it |
| 00:21.22 | abrotman | Gnea: let me know when they release E17 .. i got dibs etch+1 releases first :) |
| 00:21.32 | ootput | ogle is overkill for regular div4's |
| 00:21.53 | Gnea | abrotman: it's neck and neck man, they're starting to talk about E18 now :) |
| 00:22.16 | kspath | tyranix: ion3 and openbox3 will fix that |
| 00:22.36 | abrotman | Gnea: better start from scratch |
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| 00:22.52 | tyranix | Is it an xorg problem or window maker? I tried googling and I couldn't find anyone else who gets this problem. It has happened to me perhaps 3-4 times over the past 3 months. |
| 00:22.55 | Tallia1Kubuntu | hi there.. i'd like to reduce my 9GB linux kubuntu installation.. i don't know where to start. In windows it was easy, mainly it was about going in the program directory and delete unknown folders... what about linux? can you give me some hints on how eliminate for me useless material like unused libraries or programs? |
| 00:22.57 | Gnea | abrotman: huh? |
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| 00:23.10 | abrotman | Gnea: no code reuse .. start from scratch! |
| 00:23.17 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: #kubuntu |
| 00:23.35 | rge | use dpkg-query to sort by size |
| 00:23.43 | SerajewelKS | out of curiosity, what exactly does 'i10n' mean? is it short for 'internationalization' or is '10' a version number, or what? |
| 00:23.43 | abrotman | that's not the question rge |
| 00:23.46 | kspath | tyranix: I do not run with windowmaker but my 3head sarge xfree using ion3 or openbox3 NEVER has problems |
| 00:24.09 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: internationali{z|s}ion or some crap .. it's i18n usually |
| 00:24.10 | Gnea | abrotman: i think that's gonna happen, at least some things will be rewritten - they hung onto imlib2 |
| 00:24.13 | abrotman | !i10n |
| 00:24.17 | abrotman | !i18n |
| 00:24.17 | dpkg | i18n is probably an abbreviation for internationalisation, which is a really long word used a lot in some circles, so it's shortened by effectively saying "I, then 18 more letters, then N", get it?, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ |
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| 00:24.34 | bbrazil | SerajewelKS: l10n is localisation |
| 00:24.46 | abrotman | oh .. whoops |
| 00:24.47 | Tallia1Kubuntu | abrotman: cmon.. only because i use kde... it's not about the K.. it's about our release !! |
| 00:24.58 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: GO TO #kubuntu |
| 00:25.00 | SerajewelKS | aha |
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| 00:25.13 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 00:25.14 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 00:25.15 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: you're not using Debian .. |
| 00:25.18 | liable | Tallia1Kubuntu: um, this is #debian, not #ubuntu |
| 00:25.20 | Gnea | !kbuntu |
| 00:25.28 | Tallia1Kubuntu | :( |
| 00:25.28 | Gnea | !kubuntu |
| 00:25.28 | dpkg | from memory, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, or #Kubuntu |
| 00:25.30 | abrotman | Gnea: kubuntu |
| 00:25.32 | Tallia1Kubuntu | cmon please help me.. |
| 00:25.34 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: if we told you what is safe to delete on debian, it might *not* be safe to delete on kubuntu |
| 00:25.39 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: GET OUT OF HERE |
| 00:25.43 | Gnea | !troll Tallia1Kubuntu |
| 00:25.45 | Tallia1Kubuntu | it's not a big deal for you :( |
| 00:25.50 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: it would be for you |
| 00:25.50 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: GO AWAY |
| 00:25.56 | Gnea | Tallia1Kubuntu: respect the rules or be banned. |
| 00:26.03 | tyranix | kspath: hmm now that I think about it, the last time this happened I restarted WM through its menu and one head was still unresponsive but the other worked. So it probably is a WM issue. |
| 00:26.27 | tyranix | kspath: thanks, I'll check those two out. It's no fun restarting all your xterms/connections even if it's rare. |
| 00:26.51 | kspath | tyranix: ion3 and openbox3 are very different but very cool |
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| 00:26.59 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: kubuntu is not debian, and they do things differently. it's not our job to keep track of those differences. |
| 00:27.14 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i think they got the point :) |
| 00:27.30 | Tallia1Kubuntu | so, can you answer to this: how can you clean a system in debian? |
| 00:27.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: just trying to explain why, instead of 'go away' |
| 00:27.32 | dscener | i was just thinking, are then even any music/video purchasing services that are available for linux? The Google Video Store is XP only and we all know about the lack of itunes support. |
| 00:27.47 | Gnea | Tallia1Kubuntu: nice try. |
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| 00:27.56 | SerajewelKS | dscener: rumor has it that rhapsody is coming to linux |
| 00:28.07 | SimonRaven | s |
| 00:28.10 | resiak | Tallia1Kubuntu: Browse around in synaptic, removing stuff that I don't need. |
| 00:28.12 | kspath | Tallia1Kubuntu: parted or cfdisk does a nice job but make sure you make a backup first |
| 00:28.14 | Gnea | !beer SimonRaven |
| 00:28.16 | SerajewelKS | dscener: or rather, i think a beta is available now |
| 00:28.21 | resiak | Tallia1Kubuntu: Now go to the right channel. |
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| 00:29.06 | ootput | Kvant: no such luck :( |
| 00:29.07 | kspath | dscener: yes there is |
| 00:29.12 | Tallia1Kubuntu | parted and cfdisk are for partition managing.. -__^ |
| 00:29.26 | Tallia1Kubuntu | why did you suggest me those? |
| 00:29.33 | resiak | Tallia1Kubuntu: Because you're being a tard. |
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| 00:29.35 | kspath | to clean your system |
| 00:29.37 | Gnea | please do not feed the trolls. |
| 00:29.37 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: FUCKING SHIT .. GO TO #ubuntu |
| 00:29.52 | buu | So, anyone got an idea about why running dhclient while running raid_resynch would hardlock my box? |
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| 00:30.13 | SimonRaven | also, there's a new -legacy package for nvidia-glx and such, i'd suggest an addendum for nvidia one-liner but i don't know if it still applies - it might, but with some package name changes. i still have to try it |
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| 00:30.43 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: #kubuntu actually |
| 00:30.55 | abrotman | whatever |
| 00:31.17 | abrotman | close enough |
| 00:31.25 | deJohnBla | Anyone here use lire? I started using it and need a little help with setting up automated reporting |
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| 00:31.29 | Kvant | ootput, it didn't work? |
| 00:31.32 | SimonRaven | buu: good fucking question. /me suspects bugs |
| 00:31.34 | ootput | did anyone recently install mplayer on sid from marillat's repo? I'm getting libpolyp0 as an uninstallable dependency |
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| 00:31.45 | ootput | Kvant: sorry. yeah |
| 00:31.52 | ootput | Kvant: or perhaps i'm going about it the wrong way |
| 00:31.53 | Tallia1Kubuntu | thnx guys, for the help you gave me. I hope people will answer you in the same way when you will be in danger.. only because your face is of a different color :) |
| 00:31.56 | Kvant | works for me |
| 00:31.57 | buu | SimonRaven: Argh. Is there any place I can look? |
| 00:32.01 | ootput | Kvant: i can't seem to pin correctly |
| 00:32.08 | Tallia1Kubuntu | i just discovered a new kind of racism :) |
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| 00:32.12 | ootput | Kvant: great! how did you go about doing it? |
| 00:32.15 | johnblade | exit |
| 00:32.44 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: we're not racist, elitist, or whatever you want to call it, but we do have rules. we DO NOT make kubuntu, and we DO NOT support it. |
| 00:32.58 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: ask microsoft if they support BartPE and see what kind of reaction you get. |
| 00:33.01 | Kvant | ootput, dunno, i didn't realize there was a problem with libpolyp0 until now :) |
| 00:33.02 | mrec | anyone here got a pinnacle pctv usb 2.0? |
| 00:33.04 | deJohnBla | Tallia1Kubuntu - and Kubuntu smells |
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| 00:33.18 | Gnea | Tallia1Kubuntu: you are in the wrong. channel policies were setup YEARS ago to make sure people get the proper help at the right places. |
| 00:33.20 | ootput | Tallia1Kubuntu: we only discriminate based on the last 7 letters of one's name |
| 00:33.24 | thingfish | yeah, or go into #rhel and ask for support with mandriva. |
| 00:33.25 | Tallia1Kubuntu | ahah, i didn't ask for support.. i simply asked how do you keep clean your system.. |
| 00:33.30 | SimonRaven | buu: i'd start by running some tests, with full debug on, and judicious use of gdb, strace, valgrind, or something. also building a kernel with debug symbols (you won't be able to boot from that, FYI, but you can see where it bugs out (pardon the pun)) |
| 00:33.33 | resiak | *plonk!* |
| 00:33.37 | Tallia1Kubuntu | have a good day.. :) bye andrea |
| 00:33.38 | thingfish | boy really |
| 00:33.39 | SerajewelKS | Tallia1Kubuntu: that's support |
| 00:33.43 | ootput | Kvant: aww |
| 00:33.52 | Gnea | Tallia1Kubuntu: don't even try to twist it around, you've already proven how unintelligent you are. |
| 00:33.57 | deJohnBla | Anyone used Lire ? |
| 00:34.04 | buu | SimonRaven: gdb and strace *what* ? |
| 00:34.13 | Tallia1Kubuntu | Gnea: sure, see ya |
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| 00:34.19 | Gnea | Tallia1Kubuntu: goodbye. |
| 00:34.23 | buu | SimonRaven: And if I can't boot from it, how could I trigger the crash? |
| 00:34.36 | SimonRaven | dhclient, and any binaries involved when the raid shtuff is happening |
| 00:34.44 | thingfish | it's sad that these lesser distros can't support their community, but it's not Debian's fault. |
| 00:34.54 | mrec | buu: what kernel? |
| 00:35.02 | MooglyGuy | If I'm just going to be doing a basic install of Linux without X onto a Sun SPARCStation 5, how many out of those 13 binary discs do I need? |
| 00:35.11 | buu | mrec: 2.6.14 |
| 00:35.18 | SimonRaven | buu: it's used to find out where it is. it's used comparatively |
| 00:35.24 | thingfish | MooglyGuy: probably just the first one. |
| 00:35.28 | SimonRaven | 1 |
| 00:35.28 | buu | SimonRaven: Oh, I see. |
| 00:35.28 | mrec | buu: try 2.6.15, or 2.6.14 with the latest hotfix |
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| 00:35.38 | buu | mrec: Any good way to do that under stable/ |
| 00:35.38 | Gnea | !sparce |
| 00:35.40 | Gnea | !sparc |
| 00:35.40 | dpkg | well, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 00:35.52 | ootput | it's a fantastic arch |
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| 00:36.05 | mrec | buu: well I always compile kernels by myself, debiankernels are for noobs |
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| 00:36.35 | resiak | !debian kernel image |
| 00:36.35 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 00:36.38 | ootput | aren't there debian-specific marks to them though? |
| 00:36.40 | buu | mrec: haha, good poitn. |
| 00:36.41 | koolr | my debian 3.1 hasn't directory /etc/X11/xfs or /etc/init.d/xfs. it means that xfs is not installed?? (but it is, where are these files?) |
| 00:36.58 | MooglyGuy | thingfish: Thanks much. |
| 00:37.00 | buu | resiak: Implying I should find a kernel image? |
| 00:37.05 | mrec | resiak: as I said, for noobs |
| 00:37.07 | thingfish | haha "debiankernels are for noobs" |
| 00:37.15 | thingfish | MooglyGuy: you're welcome. |
| 00:37.24 | resiak | buu: No, it was a comment WRT mrec. |
| 00:37.30 | SerajewelKS | mrec: debian kernels are for people with lives |
| 00:37.31 | mrec | + I use my kernel for driver development |
| 00:37.39 | SerajewelKS | mrec: there ya go ;) |
| 00:37.41 | buu | resiak: Well, I still need a later kernel.. |
| 00:37.42 | Gnea | you know it's sunday when... |
| 00:37.42 | resiak | mrec: I'm perfectly capable of building my own kernel, but I don't need to. You have a good reason, so there. |
| 00:37.42 | mrec | SerajewelKS: well windows is for people with lives |
| 00:37.49 | mrec | SerajewelKS: linux is for more advanced people :-) |
| 00:37.50 | thingfish | hehe Gnea |
| 00:37.54 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:37.54 | buu | resiak: I believe there's a 2.15 on backports.org.. |
| 00:38.03 | resiak | buu: Do you use udev? |
| 00:38.08 | SerajewelKS | mrec: okay, kernel compiling is for people who have given up on their social life ;) |
| 00:38.14 | buu | resiak: Er, no idea, what is it? |
| 00:38.22 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i resemble that remark :P |
| 00:38.23 | SimonRaven | windows isn't for people with lives.... they'd spend more time trying to get the stupid thing to work |
| 00:38.24 | ootput | how hard is it to hack a .config? |
| 00:38.37 | ootput | and to use the .debs on batch installations? |
| 00:38.40 | buu | ootput: Well, first you need to study the buffer overflows. |
| 00:38.49 | SerajewelKS | SimonRaven: no shit, you should have seen my friend try to set up a shared folder |
| 00:38.54 | Gnea | ootput: very, very complicated. first, you need to know how to use vim... |
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| 00:39.19 | ootput | Gnea: shit, i'm not equipped for that sort of op :( |
| 00:39.45 | mrec | SimonRaven: at least windows is real multiuser, everyone on the whole world can happily use your box for spamming, etc :) |
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| 00:39.51 | Gnea | ootput: then i'm afraid kernel hacking is not for you. go make a pizza or something. |
| 00:39.54 | resiak | buu: A dynamic /dev thing. dpkg -l udev . If you do use it, you'll be in for a world of pain using a kernel >= 2.6.12. If you don't use it, that's a Good Thing. |
| 00:40.04 | thingfish | ooh home-made pizza. |
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| 00:40.08 | ootput | Gnea: :`( |
| 00:40.10 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 00:40.19 | Gnea | ootput: sorry, that was a slice of sarcasm :) |
| 00:40.23 | SerajewelKS | thingfish: we had homemade pizza last night, made by my mom =) |
| 00:40.31 | ootput | ditto |
| 00:40.36 | Gnea | ootput: seriously, make menuconfig |
| 00:40.45 | ootput | lebanese bread is fantastic for homemade pizza |
| 00:40.53 | thingfish | SerajewelKS: cool, I bet it was yummy. My mom used to make the best sicilian style bread pizza. |
| 00:40.55 | buu | resiak: Er, it seems to be installed |
| 00:40.56 | johnblade | ootput and for good sakes dont do make config |
| 00:40.57 | ootput | sprinkle some cabanossi and cheddar cheese, and you're all set |
| 00:41.03 | SerajewelKS | thingfish: yeah, homemade bread |
| 00:41.11 | buu | resiak: Should I remove it? |
| 00:41.13 | ootput | Gnea: johnblade: it's ok guys. I was kidding earlier |
| 00:41.13 | thingfish | cheddar on pizza? nope. |
| 00:41.14 | SerajewelKS | #debian-recipies |
| 00:41.19 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:41.25 | ootput | thingfish: it goes with the topping |
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| 00:41.30 | Gnea | pies? mmm |
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| 00:41.39 | thingfish | you put the tomato sauce on in a big Debian logo swirl. |
| 00:41.40 | ootput | pizza-cheese is stringy. and that's about all it's good for. |
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| 00:41.43 | buu | resiak: Or at least, how cany ou remove it? |
| 00:42.25 | ootput | yeah, the debian logo is actually a bottle of ketchup lying flat on the table that somebody spilt |
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| 00:42.52 | thingfish | ootput: get high quality mozzarella...maybe with a little sliced provolone. |
| 00:43.10 | johnblade | sliced provolone... i never see that stuff in Australia |
| 00:43.17 | ootput | same |
| 00:43.18 | SerajewelKS | thingfish: or put the pepperoni on in that shape... shit, i'm going to do that next time i make a pizza |
| 00:43.26 | thingfish | I never see good mozzarella here in the middle of the USA. |
| 00:43.27 | SerajewelKS | thingfish: take a picture, attach it to my NM app... |
| 00:43.43 | ootput | sorry, it wasn't cheddar, it was colby cheese |
| 00:43.46 | eegore | I guess I have to futz with gcombust |
| 00:43.49 | thingfish | you want mozzarella that weeps. |
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| 00:43.54 | resiak | buu: apt-get remove udev. Is this a desktop machine? It's needed for magical device-discovery-and-hence-mounting u |
| 00:43.57 | resiak | buu: s/u/fu/ |
| 00:43.59 | thingfish | colby is wrong too. |
| 00:44.05 | ootput | g2g. hungry. |
| 00:44.07 | thingfish | no yellow cheeses on pizza. |
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| 00:44.21 | johnblade | ewww yellow cheeses on pizza |
| 00:44.25 | thingfish | see. |
| 00:44.27 | buu | resiak: Not really a desktop. |
| 00:44.29 | eegore | what about quesadias? |
| 00:44.34 | buu | resiak: As in, it's going to have the same hardware.. forever. |
| 00:44.45 | liable | capers are good on pizza. |
| 00:44.51 | thingfish | now quesadillas - that's a different story. yessir, serve me up a few o them. |
| 00:45.03 | johnblade | resiak: you will need to manually make modules changes if you want to change hardware. |
| 00:45.08 | buu | resiak: Argh, apt is kabroke. |
| 00:45.09 | thingfish | capers are delicious. as are anchovies. |
| 00:45.16 | Bogaurd | does anyone have a link to a good tutorial for setting up bind as a local dns server/proxy? |
| 00:45.28 | johnblade | I don't mind anchovies, as long as I don't have to eat them |
| 00:45.33 | thingfish | tsk |
| 00:45.35 | johnblade | just too salty |
| 00:45.41 | liable | yep |
| 00:45.46 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: afaik the config files for doing that are pretty self-explanatory |
| 00:46.01 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: i had that set up in a few minutes, but i ditched that for dnsmasq |
| 00:46.02 | thingfish | you can cook with them, and they melt away into whatever you're adding them to. |
| 00:46.13 | thingfish | but I still like them direct, on pizza. |
| 00:46.17 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: ah - what's this dnsmasq? |
| 00:46.30 | cisee | anyone have a usb temperature monitor near their servers ? |
| 00:46.37 | resiak | johnblade: No, actually. The version of udev in Sarge has nothing to do with module loading, which is separately handled by discover1 and hotplug |
| 00:46.45 | Gnea | man, i made a pizza with anchovies once, and ate it |
| 00:46.54 | arsen | ^ |
| 00:46.55 | arsen | harsh |
| 00:46.55 | Gnea | and i thought onions gave me gas... |
| 00:47.00 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:47.01 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: DNS proxy + DHCP server, useful for sharing a connection |
| 00:47.03 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: just googled dnsmasq, looks to be excellent. i will try it. |
| 00:47.05 | resiak | buu: I need to sleep. Other folks here will help you if you're nice. ;) |
| 00:47.10 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: if you don't need any local DNS entries, it's perfect |
| 00:47.13 | johnblade | resiak: ah yes my mistake, udev is just for /dev, etc |
| 00:47.14 | buu | resiak: Uh oh, I'm in trouble. |
| 00:47.23 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: be sure to disable DHCP if you already have a DHCP server on your lan |
| 00:47.29 | Gnea | don't get me wrong, once they're actually cooked, they taste pretty damn good with everything else mixed in |
| 00:47.34 | thingfish | it's good to chop up an anchovy and add it to a salad before you toss it. |
| 00:47.38 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: uhh... I did want to have some things like: machinename -> 192.168.0.x |
| 00:47.41 | resiak | buu: :) |
| 00:47.44 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: that still possible? |
| 00:47.48 | Gnea | just make sure you've got some antacids on hand ;) |
| 00:47.53 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:47.59 | johnblade | I just don't like furry anchovies... they feel funny in my mouth |
| 00:47.59 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: hmm, i'm not sure. probably not. |
| 00:48.06 | Gnea | thingfish: bad :) |
| 00:48.08 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: hmm... okay |
| 00:48.14 | thingfish | no, yummy! |
| 00:48.21 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 00:48.29 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: you might be able to though.. let me check on my sarge router |
| 00:48.32 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: from the website: "It can serve the names of local machines which are not in the global DNS" |
| 00:48.41 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: thanks - I'd appreciate that :) |
| 00:48.43 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: okay, yeah i don't have that set up |
| 00:48.50 | Bogaurd | ah ok |
| 00:48.53 | thingfish | lettuce+anchovy+shaved parmiggiano reggiano, a little cracked pepper, some olive oil... |
| 00:48.58 | Gnea | sorry, the sunday trolls have triggered my dark humor today |
| 00:49.04 | ootput | omg lettuce |
| 00:49.15 | Gnea | hrm |
| 00:49.22 | Gnea | i think i'd replace the lettuce with spinach |
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| 00:49.31 | ootput | omg spinache |
| 00:49.34 | ootput | -e |
| 00:49.47 | Gnea | dunno if i could eat the anchovies fresh tho, i'd at least fry 'em |
| 00:49.55 | thingfish | good lettuce, like butter lettuce |
| 00:50.03 | cisee | a |
| 00:50.05 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: it looks like it does, i guess play around with it until it works |
| 00:50.12 | thingfish | you don't put a bunch in, just one for the whole salad. |
| 00:50.20 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: thankyou :) |
| 00:50.26 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: np |
| 00:51.04 | Gnea | maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.... |
| 00:51.14 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:51.30 | TriKster-Abacus | Gnea, just what I did |
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| 00:51.35 | Gnea | i haven't had a drink in a couple weeks |
| 00:51.40 | Gnea | TriKster-Abacus: :) |
| 00:51.42 | TriKster-Abacus | trying some cheap Mexican beer: Tecate |
| 00:51.44 | thingfish | I've already had all I'm going to drink for the night. |
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| 00:51.53 | TriKster-Abacus | it is only ~7pm here |
| 00:52.00 | thingfish | same here. |
| 00:52.19 | TriKster-Abacus | and I just got back from a Monster Truck Jam... and had to have a beer.. cuz I could smell it at the show.. it made my mouth water! |
| 00:52.19 | Gnea | almost 6pm |
| 00:52.21 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: looks like it reads from the hosts file... is it possible to use a wildcard in the /etc/hosts file? I want to achieve something like *.blah.net -> 192.168.0.x |
| 00:52.27 | buu | I'm getting a strange apt error, about a package that's already installed requiring depenencies that aren't installed http://sial.org/pbot/15452 |
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| 00:52.47 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: /etc/hosts doesn't allow wildcards, no |
| 00:52.54 | CGH | hola? |
| 00:52.59 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: look at the dnsmasq.conf configuration, local= might be what you're after |
| 00:53.00 | mhall | hello. Is anybody else on unstable + experimental experiencing about a 350 MB update over the past couple of days? |
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| 00:53.04 | SerajewelKS | Bogaurd: but don't quote me on that |
| 00:53.04 | SimonRaven | mrec: windows isn't multi-user... though in the way you mentioned, it is ;) |
| 00:53.11 | Bogaurd | SerajewelKS: okay, thanks =) |
| 00:54.06 | SerajewelKS | mhall: lucky dog |
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| 00:54.32 | buu | mhall: lyre.mit? |
| 00:54.36 | kspath | hmm mhallsmite mhall ? |
| 00:54.37 | sancho___ | i used apt-get to install an application that made changes to inetd.conf and then I carelessly ripped out the changes and removed the package; now when I reinstall it, it doesn't make the changes to inetd.conf... is there a way to manually force those changes back into the file? |
| 00:54.45 | pipeline | mhall: Bastard. |
| 00:54.48 | liable | buu: you are trying to install a 2.6.14 on sarge? |
| 00:54.52 | Bogaurd | oh, this is more of a general question - how can i check that all the security packages for my distro are up to date? |
| 00:54.53 | SerajewelKS | !confmiss |
| 00:54.53 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 00:54.56 | mhall | pipeline: SerajewelKS: mmm fiber optic |
| 00:54.57 | buu | liable: It's already installed and running, actually. |
| 00:54.58 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: ^^^ |
| 00:55.05 | pipeline | mhall: :( |
| 00:55.09 | buu | liable: It came staight from the installer. |
| 00:55.23 | mhall | buu: lyre.mit is a mirror of debian i take it? |
| 00:55.26 | liable | buu: err, what? |
| 00:55.26 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: thanks, will check it out. |
| 00:55.34 | mhall | Fetched 310MB in 3m0s (1719kB/s) |
| 00:55.34 | pipeline | mhall: My ISP caps bandwidth incoming from common sources e.g. kernel.org, us.debian.org. My normal ~1 mb/s drops to 200 kb/s downloading from big debian mirrors :( |
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| 00:55.46 | mhall | pipeline: bastards |
| 00:55.52 | satHan | hey guys, kdm/Xorg problem here, not sure which is to blame. basically on first boot with auto-login enabled the keyboard will not respond to input after it logs into kde. however, after remotely restarting kdm and allowing it to auto-login again everything works perfectly. anybody have a similar problem or ideas where to start looking? |
| 00:56.06 | mhall | pipeline: did you try dumping the apt-setup list and trying many more mirrors |
| 00:56.24 | rge | satHan: had a similar problem |
| 00:56.28 | buu | mhall: Yar. |
| 00:56.29 | pipeline | mhall: Eh, any mirror large enough to saturate my connection is going to be on the blacklist. |
| 00:56.32 | mhall | pipeline: linux.csua.berkeley.edu and the national labs? |
| 00:56.40 | mhall | pipeline: what ISP is this |
| 00:56.40 | rge | s/similar/same/ |
| 00:56.43 | pipeline | mhall: Comcast. |
| 00:56.51 | liable | bastards |
| 00:56.54 | buu | liable: I'm using a scary installer that contains 2.6.14 |
| 00:56.59 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: would --force-confmiss take care of missing portions of a file that does exist, or just altogether missing files? |
| 00:57.00 | satHan | rge: how'd you fix it? |
| 00:57.07 | mhall | pipeline: you're kidding me; i used it in washington state where it's 6 megabit and got 6 megabits |
| 00:57.09 | rge | blamed the hardware |
| 00:57.11 | buu | mhall: Is that your max? |
| 00:57.20 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: well, you purge inetd, rm the conf, and install with --force-confmis |
| 00:57.25 | SerajewelKS | confmiss* |
| 00:57.29 | rge | and removed kde from init.d |
| 00:57.37 | pipeline | mhall: Heh, I'm not sure I understand the nature of the cap, really. |
| 00:57.39 | satHan | rge: hmm, I tried a USB kyboard and it did the same thing. kernel updates and new kde didnt help either |
| 00:57.39 | liable | buu: oh, right. |
| 00:57.41 | Gnea | mhall: nothing's the same everywhere |
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| 00:57.43 | mhall | buu: well the pipe is about 100mbit and http / ftp have first priority and not that many people use those protocols since it's an edu and they're busy jacking w4r3z |
| 00:57.50 | pipeline | mhall: I'm not really sure whether the cap is a per-connection, or a blacklist. |
| 00:57.53 | lesho | hiii :) |
| 00:58.00 | buu | mhall: Which mirror was that? |
| 00:58.08 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: can that only be used with dpkg or can the functionality be used in apt-get? |
| 00:58.09 | pipeline | mhall: At any rate, I can get six megabits downloading things from several places at a time, but the rest of the time, I'm capped to 200 kb/s down. |
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| 00:58.17 | pipeline | mhall: It may be that I'm one of their "problem users" |
| 00:58.20 | mhall | pipeline: apt.conf has some option to increase amount of sockets |
| 00:58.32 | pipeline | mhall: So I could use multiple TCP connections? Maybe I can evade their packet shaping. |
| 00:58.39 | mhall | pipeline: possibly |
| 00:58.40 | rge | satHan: you're using nvidia? |
| 00:58.45 | pipeline | Fucking hell |
| 00:58.49 | mhall | pipeline: try manning apt.conf and see what your choices are |
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| 00:59.05 | satHan | rge: yeah, 8178 and kernel 2.6.15 |
| 00:59.08 | mhall | pipeline: lol that's exactly what my best gamer buddy says when the edu screws over his crap ;-) |
| 00:59.20 | satHan | rge: updated them both to try and fix the problem but it was there with earlier versions |
| 00:59.23 | pipeline | mhall: The "fucking hell" was coming from the attempt to upgrade lvm2. Hooray for breaking changes in kernel APIs! |
| 00:59.24 | mhall | buu: yeah i have the best luck with mirrors.kernel.org |
| 00:59.29 | mhall | pipeline: oof |
| 00:59.33 | rge | yeah, me too. |
| 00:59.42 | mhall | pipeline: scary cvs version time? |
| 00:59.49 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: never mind, I read better this time ;) |
| 00:59.51 | buu | liable: No idea about fixing apt? |
| 01:00.00 | rge | I noticed, that when you type in X, the letters are printed to some terminal |
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| 01:00.13 | rge | i.e. console |
| 01:00.25 | liable | buu: i spose an -f install tries to remove the kernel? |
| 01:00.27 | satHan | rge: interesting, i havent looked at the console after restarting kdm.. |
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| 01:00.43 | buu | liable: No, it just returns without error. |
| 01:00.46 | satHan | rge: it really makes no sense because i'm using a identically set up machine right now and theres no issue |
| 01:00.51 | rge | it's not always there, and not always on the same console |
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| 01:01.06 | liable | buu: so you can still use apt? |
| 01:01.06 | rge | same here |
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| 01:01.22 | rge | so i blamed the (in other ways) buggy mainboard |
| 01:01.26 | rge | at last |
| 01:01.35 | buu | liable: Er, I guess. I'm trying to run 'apt-get remove udev' when I get that error. |
| 01:01.49 | buu | liable: Yeah, I can apt-get install stuff. |
| 01:01.55 | satHan | rge: i'll poke around some more later tonight. obviously googling "kde keyboard lockup" isnt going to get me anywhere... |
| 01:02.13 | pipeline | mhall: Requires kernel version > 2.6.12 |
| 01:02.40 | pipeline | mhall: But I can't upgrade the kernel because it would pull in udev, which is horrendously broken in itself... hooray for idiot kernel maintainers. (Not the debian folks; no, gkh, torvalds and that bunch.) |
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| 01:03.22 | buu | liable: But how do I get rid of udev? |
| 01:03.28 | liable | buu: remove it with dpkg. |
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| 01:03.48 | buu | er, it depends on initramfs-tools ?! |
| 01:03.53 | SimonRaven | mhall: JIC you haven't been answered, some things got unblocked, (C++ shtuff amongst others) so a whole bunch of stuff moved into sid and etch |
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| 01:03.59 | buu | I'm so confused. |
| 01:04.01 | orangey | hey all! |
| 01:04.10 | Gnea | totem > vlc |
| 01:04.21 | orangey | I'm having the following problem when copying large files via usb2 from my portable 2.5" HD: "Additional sense: Logical unit communication CRC error" |
| 01:04.25 | _fred | Hi! I have a question regarding fonts. I set up my English system to display Chinese however the default font (which I thought was Bitstream Vera) is missing some characters. All KDE fonts settings seems to be on that font, though when I open it with the font viewer it seems there is not one Chinese character supported. So how do I find out which font is really being used? |
| 01:04.31 | orangey | this problem does *not* happen with my portable 3.5" |
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| 01:04.46 | rge | satHan: I would try to use an X-configuration w/o nvidia. |
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| 01:04.50 | Gnea | orangey: what filesystem? |
| 01:05.00 | orangey | Gnea: vfat |
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| 01:05.09 | orangey | (for cross-compatibility with windows systems) |
| 01:05.11 | rge | satHan: i.e. with the nv driver or vesa or sth. |
| 01:05.11 | Gnea | orangey: weird...what kernel |
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| 01:05.23 | orangey | gnea: Linux courage 2.6.12-10-k7 #1 Thu Dec 22 12:32:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 01:05.48 | orangey | from "mount": /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) |
| 01:05.57 | Gnea | orangey: are you plugging into a usb hub? |
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| 01:06.01 | mhall | SimonRaven: sweet; how did it come about? |
| 01:06.03 | orangey | Gnea: no sir. |
| 01:06.08 | orangey | Gnea: into the mobo |
| 01:06.18 | Gnea | dunno |
| 01:06.23 | hyperactivecrond | !poop |
| 01:06.27 | mhall | SimonRaven: i'm still sitting on a real weird xorg 6.9 regression bug that gravity had me file |
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| 01:06.28 | Gnea | do you have another system to test it on? |
| 01:06.28 | orangey | Gnea: can it be a power problem? |
| 01:06.28 | serfurj | what's the best way to go about installing glib 2.8.0 on debian sarge? |
| 01:06.33 | MooglyGuy | !poop |
| 01:06.40 | orangey | gnea: it works fine on windows systems. |
| 01:06.41 | hyperactivecrond | moooooo |
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| 01:06.46 | orangey | Gnea: I haven't tested it on another usb 2.0 linux |
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| 01:06.53 | orangey | Gnea: it works fine on USB 1.x linux |
| 01:06.57 | SimonRaven | mhall: can't remember right now. i think kde got loosened up with some laxative or something |
| 01:07.04 | mhall | Does anybody have any tips on making SCP faster? It's fucking slow as hell for me all the time. |
| 01:07.06 | azeem | hyperactivecrond, MooglyGuy: please stop abusing the bot |
| 01:07.08 | Gnea | orangey: could be - does it have the ability to use DC power? |
| 01:07.24 | buu | mhall: Stop using encryption? |
| 01:07.52 | _fred | Hi! I have a question regarding fonts. I set up my English system to display Chinese however the default font (which I thought was Bitstream Vera) is missing some characters. All KDE fonts settings seems to be on that font, though when I open it with the font viewer it seems there is not one Chinese character supported. So how do I find out which font is really being used? |
| 01:08.16 | rge | lastlog |
| 01:08.23 | worthy | color test |
| 01:08.26 | worthy | ok |
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| 01:09.06 | mhall | buu: but... next to 0 cpu consumption and it's still using less than 1/10 of the bandwidth |
| 01:09.18 | hyperactivecrond | azeem: apologiez |
| 01:09.22 | hyperactivecrond | apologies* |
| 01:10.01 | buu | mhall: Um. How are you testing the bandwidth? |
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| 01:10.09 | SimonRaven | mhall: try using -C (if it applies to scp)? |
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| 01:12.21 | mhall | buu: making copies |
| 01:12.28 | mhall | SimonRaven: yeah and it doesn't help |
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| 01:13.49 | worthy | where the hell am i? |
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| 01:13.56 | worthy | damn i got lag |
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| 01:15.26 | _Electro_Cypher_ | (: |
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| 01:15.35 | sancho___ | what package provide inetd (and more importantly, /etc/inetd.conf?) |
| 01:15.38 | buu | YAY |
| 01:15.54 | zxc | how can I find which package provides a certain file using the dpkg bot ? |
| 01:16.27 | SerajewelKS | zxc: !find filename |
| 01:16.35 | zxc | SerajewelKS: thanks |
| 01:16.36 | worthy | did we just have a net split? |
| 01:16.36 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: several do |
| 01:16.46 | SerajewelKS | worthy: no |
| 01:16.58 | worthy | i only see 5 pp in the channel |
| 01:16.58 | SerajewelKS | worthy: i saw you /quit though |
| 01:17.10 | SerajewelKS | worthy: i see lots =) |
| 01:17.12 | worthy | i'll restart this program |
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| 01:17.18 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: how about which one is installed by default in a basic Debian installation? |
| 01:17.22 | orangey | gnea: yeah, it can use DC |
| 01:17.23 | worthy | im using kopete irc for the first time |
| 01:17.39 | worthy | ok same commands |
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| 01:17.48 | worthy | brb |
| 01:17.49 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: i have pidentd |
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| 01:18.38 | chealer_ | sancho___: netkit-inetd |
| 01:18.46 | SerajewelKS | chealer_: pidentd is not default? |
| 01:19.03 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: only for *identd*, not inetd. |
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| 01:19.28 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: ah |
| 01:19.41 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: you said inetd |
| 01:19.59 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: ignore me please |
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| 01:21.37 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: you're entitled. ;) |
| 01:23.31 | serfurj | if i have two versions of a library installed, where should the extra version go? in /usr/local/lib ? |
| 01:23.44 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: in the same location as the other one, presumably |
| 01:23.58 | chealer_ | !start a pillow war |
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| 01:24.36 | serfurj | SerajewelKS: shouldn't i keep packages not installed by the package manager in /usr/local for cleanliness? |
| 01:24.40 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: start a pillow war is * SerajewelKS sticks an ubuntu flag out of his fort and readies for battle |
| 01:24.41 | dpkg | SerajewelKS: okay |
| 01:24.58 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: if that's good practice, you're the first person i've heard it from |
| 01:25.02 | tyranix | kspath: Hmm ion looks interesting. Have you tried wmii or ratpoison? |
| 01:25.19 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: generally the */local/* directories are reserved for locally-built things, not debian packages |
| 01:25.46 | serfurj | SerajewelKS: what's the difference between that and what i said? |
| 01:26.06 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: "shouldn't i keep *packages* not installed by the package manager in /usr/local for cleanliness?" |
| 01:26.11 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: that implies debian packages |
| 01:26.19 | bcc | guys, is it true that tinydns drops some queries on random? |
| 01:26.26 | kspath | tyranix: yes |
| 01:26.27 | SerajewelKS | serfurj: if they're not debian packages, then yes |
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| 01:26.40 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: this isn't going like I think it should. --force-confmiss will replace nonexistent conf files, --force-confnew will always put in a "fresh" conf file, but what can I do to make sure modifications to an existing config files get put in? |
| 01:26.44 | SerajewelKS | bcc: read the sources and find out |
| 01:26.56 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: not a lot |
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| 01:27.07 | sancho___ | bcc: sounds like FUD to me - what queries would it dropat random? |
| 01:27.16 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: aside from make a backup of the file, reinstall with confnew, and diff them, then copy back the changes you still want |
| 01:27.18 | bcc | SerajewelKS: that's for your thorough and informative answer. |
| 01:27.21 | serfurj | SerajewelKS: i see, thanks |
| 01:27.34 | bcc | sancho___: yep, that's what i'm thinking, but just want to make sure. |
| 01:27.41 | SerajewelKS | bcc: you're welcome. this is the open-source world, after all. |
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| 01:28.10 | sancho___ | bcc: honestly, what would be the purpose? that sounds like some uninformed BIND bigot spouting off. |
| 01:28.13 | mhall | SerajewelKS: h4h4 3y3 pwn3d yuo |
| 01:28.21 | bcc | sancho___: the purpose? not a feature a bug. |
| 01:28.23 | _Electro_Cypher_ | so what? |
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| 01:28.33 | _Electro_Cypher_ | mhall : your so dumb. |
| 01:28.39 | tktktk | what is the proper debian way to save iptables rules and have them load on startup? |
| 01:28.39 | xerophyte | how can i export only one pdf page from a pdf book ?? just any tool |
| 01:28.54 | sancho___ | bcc: no, i severely doubt that. |
| 01:29.00 | SerajewelKS | mhall: indeed. would you like a c00|<33? |
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| 01:29.04 | sancho___ | tktktk: see the security debian guide. |
| 01:29.08 | mhall | _Electro_Cypher_: YHBT. YHL. HAND. |
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| 01:29.16 | SerajewelKS | mhall: or would you like to begin making some sense? |
| 01:29.16 | _Electro_Cypher_ | ... Take your own advice... |
| 01:29.19 | _Electro_Cypher_ | It's important. |
| 01:29.20 | pipeline | bcc: So what? Use BIND. Be happy. Other DNS servers need not exist :P |
| 01:29.26 | _Electro_Cypher_ | Besides, this is a open source server. |
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| 01:29.29 | mhall | SerajewelKS: na i already got them from your firefox profile ;-) |
| 01:29.35 | _Electro_Cypher_ | Ego'z are bad. |
| 01:29.51 | bcc | pipeline: i got two boxes using bind right now, but i'm thinking about trying tinydns on a new box. |
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| 01:29.56 | SerajewelKS | mhall: indeed. firefox is not installed on this box. |
| 01:29.56 | mhall | SerajewelKS: i was just responding to your comment about ubuntu, fort, etc but it took a while to come up with some good UTF-8 1337 characters ;-) |
| 01:30.03 | SerajewelKS | mhall: ah ;) |
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| 01:30.29 | mhall | SerajewelKS: in the battle of the confusing and the confused, bet on the confusing ;-) |
| 01:30.29 | _Electro_Cypher_ | mhall, even if he is using ubuntu. |
| 01:30.34 | _Electro_Cypher_ | Don't worry about him, worry about your self. |
| 01:30.35 | sancho___ | bcc: give it a shot, it's a cool app. Don't be afraid to read the docs or you'll be confused coming out of a BIND world... |
| 01:30.45 | SerajewelKS | _Electro_Cypher_: i'm not using ubuntu |
| 01:30.48 | mhall | _Electro_Cypher_: if only you actually got the joke |
| 01:31.05 | _Electro_Cypher_ | Atleast try to be funny about it. |
| 01:31.07 | kspath | !mhallsmite mhall |
| 01:31.09 | abrotman | the movie just paused .. on its own |
| 01:31.10 | SerajewelKS | mhall: btw my terminal borked the UTF encoding so i still don't know how i got owned =P |
| 01:31.11 | _Electro_Cypher_ | This convo is over, |
| 01:31.16 | bcc | sancho___: i don't know if there is any reason not to use bind |
| 01:31.17 | abrotman | _Electro_Cypher_: it's you're .. |
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| 01:31.39 | SerajewelKS | bcc: it's huge? |
| 01:31.42 | Breeder | i'm having a problem with lirc the latest 2 versions result in this: "Starting lirc daemon: lircdDriver `pinsys' not supported. \ Supported drivers: null" |
| 01:32.14 | Breeder | any lights about what is doing this :-\ |
| 01:32.20 | abrotman | Someday i'll figure out how morons like _Electro_Cypher_ manage to figure out tor, but can't figure out your/you're |
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| 01:33.07 | _Electro_Cypher_ | funny part is, how you use our o.s |
| 01:33.07 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: i pride myself in being one of the few remainng AIM users that passed my English classes |
| 01:33.11 | _Electro_Cypher_ | :) |
| 01:33.12 | SerajewelKS | remaining too |
| 01:33.16 | jeanseb | hello, I am running debian 3.1 and KDE. I am looking for a UML design package. Any recommendation? |
| 01:33.20 | mhall | abrotman: lol that's pretty funny, attacking a named user from an anonymous account |
| 01:33.26 | mhall | abrotman: i failed to realize the humor |
| 01:33.33 | abrotman | mhall: normally that'd be called a troll :) |
| 01:33.36 | _Electro_Cypher_ | but, hey... keep up the good act~! |
| 01:33.36 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah it took a *long* time to set that up |
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| 01:33.47 | kspath | abrotman: your you're to too two then than and the like are binary issues on/off the wrong response is triggered over and over and that becomes the "valid" pathway response |
| 01:33.55 | SerajewelKS | mhall: set what up, AIM? |
| 01:34.05 | mhall | SerajewelKS: UTF in general |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | kspath: uhm .. it's piss poor grammar :) |
| 01:34.13 | SerajewelKS | mhall: ah |
| 01:34.16 | mhall | SerajewelKS: it's not easy to get everything to be UTF-8 safe |
| 01:34.40 | SerajewelKS | mhall: no kidding... i'm working on a project that *needs* UTF-8 at some point but i'm too lazy to implement it |
| 01:34.44 | threat | mhall, is cin and cout UTF-8 safe? |
| 01:34.48 | jeanseb | and for uml...? |
| 01:34.56 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah i want to learn the ICU library |
| 01:35.26 | mhall | threat: as far as I can tell, no, because std::string was engineered not to support mutibyte character sets |
| 01:35.52 | SerajewelKS | main problem is changing all the 'char' to whatever wide char type is supported on the given OS |
| 01:36.04 | SerajewelKS | which i *really* don't want to do |
| 01:36.09 | pipeline | threat: Just Say No to C++. |
| 01:36.16 | pipeline | threat: The STL is an abomination. |
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| 01:36.29 | threat | pipeline, the STL is your friend |
| 01:36.46 | pipeline | threat: The STL is no man's friend. It is a cancer on the body public. |
| 01:36.47 | threat | std::set<std::string> woot; |
| 01:36.53 | threat | sif you dont like that :) |
| 01:37.22 | threat | pipeline, Which programming language do you like then? |
| 01:37.28 | pipeline | threat: C++ templates in general are badly brain-damaged; the STL specifically is horribly mis-designed. The STL string especially so. Consider SGI's "ropes" as an alternative. |
| 01:37.38 | koolr | what means is: "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/xfs not found." when i try to install xfs through apt-get ? |
| 01:37.45 | pipeline | threat: Well, C++ sucks independently of STL issues. STL is the tip of the iceberg. I like lots of languages. |
| 01:38.04 | threat | C? |
| 01:38.13 | threat | JAVA? smalltalk? |
| 01:38.16 | pipeline | threat: C is a great language for a limited problem domain. |
| 01:38.26 | pipeline | threat: Java and Smalltalk are both fine languages, if not my favorites. |
| 01:38.32 | abrotman | Ada! |
| 01:38.42 | sancho___ | bcc: its holy war territory, but djbdns has had a much better security history (flawless?) compared to BIND and does outperform it under heavy loads. it has its down sides too, just like any app, and you may not need the insane performance anyway. BIND also supports features djbdns does not, although one could argue how useful they are to most users. |
| 01:38.44 | beefcake | Perl? |
| 01:38.44 | pipeline | threat: I'd rather not deal with Java or Smalltalk, but I would if I were paid to do so. |
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| 01:39.05 | pipeline | threat: I cannot say the same about C++. I'd butcher my whole family and sell their organs on the open market to avoid touching C++ ever again. |
| 01:39.44 | mhall | i've been needing to figure out LISP in more depth but i want a full featured version with UTF and threads etc |
| 01:39.44 | liable | koolr: looks like the package might be broken and not installing an init script. |
| 01:39.44 | pipeline | threat: If you're wondering whether "cin" and "cout" are i18n-safe, you're clearly just starting to learn C++. I'm advising you not to. Run. Run as far as possible. Now. While you still have some scraps of your mind left. |
| 01:39.49 | threat | pipeline, heh, I quite like C++ |
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| 01:40.01 | pipeline | mhall: Err, most lisp implementations haveh threads. Only a few have native threads, but that's not really the point :P |
| 01:40.22 | threat | pipeline, my uni corse requires C/C++ knowledge, I cannt escape it just yet |
| 01:40.25 | pipeline | mhall: UTF is a separate problem. I think the only lisp with fully working UTF-8 is Allegro. Allegro is very, very expensive if you want to distribute binaries to end-users. |
| 01:40.33 | pipeline | threat: C and C++ are not the same, or even similar, languages. |
| 01:40.40 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: for large projects i find C++ easier to deal with than C, but C certainly leaves my mind in a saner state |
| 01:40.42 | mhall | pipeline: the problem is, if i'm going to go to the trouble of really learning to think in parse trees, i want to have a complete language to work with |
| 01:40.48 | pipeline | threat: C has some serious limitations, but C++ is just a goddamn nightmare. |
| 01:40.54 | pipeline | mhall: learning to think in parse trees? |
| 01:40.59 | threat | pipeline, they have their simualities |
| 01:41.03 | pipeline | mhall: Lisp has a pretty trimmed down syntax, but not THAT trimmed down :P |
| 01:41.06 | mhall | pipeline: well that's kind of what LISP is like for me |
| 01:41.08 | pipeline | threat: The similarities are superficial. |
| 01:41.08 | kspath | ruby? |
| 01:41.14 | kspath | python? |
| 01:41.15 | tktktk | does eveyrthing in rcS.d get run before the stuff in rc2.d or is it based entirely on the number? |
| 01:41.16 | mhall | pipeline: hence the parenthesis, the way the macros work, etc |
| 01:41.16 | pipeline | mhall: Also, nobody has called it LISP since the seventies. |
| 01:41.34 | mhall | pipeline: meh, i don't care about spelling, etc. more about the principle |
| 01:41.49 | SerajewelKS | if anyone can recommend a decently-supported OO language that can be natively compiled across several platforms, i'm there |
| 01:41.50 | abrotman | pipeline: except in san fran |
| 01:41.55 | mhall | pipeline: Were I needing to place it on my resumé, then it would be more of an issue. |
| 01:42.03 | pipeline | mhall: Also: UTF-8 aside, Common Lisp is most certainly a "complete language" |
| 01:42.09 | pipeline | mhall: Good god, the standard libraries are huge. |
| 01:42.11 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah about the only one right now would be java and it's kind of a hack |
| 01:42.16 | threat | pipeline, fair enough |
| 01:42.19 | pipeline | mhall: I mean, the abbreviated standard is on the order of 1500 pages. |
| 01:42.23 | SerajewelKS | mhall: read "natively compiled" |
| 01:42.25 | SerajewelKS | mhall: try again |
| 01:42.39 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Uh, common lisp can be natively compiled across most platforms. |
| 01:42.51 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: and yes, it's an OO language. |
| 01:42.53 | Azar | C# I guess is an OO |
| 01:42.55 | hyperactivecrond | !goodnight |
| 01:42.56 | dpkg | gnight, or something said when a person is leaving for the night |
| 01:42.59 | hyperactivecrond | d'oh |
| 01:43.00 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: and it's suitable for a full-scale opengl/sdl RPG? |
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| 01:43.03 | hyperactivecrond | whatever i'm out |
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| 01:43.17 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Eh, there are OpenGL and SDL bindings for lisp. I have no idea whether it's "suitable." I don't do GL. |
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| 01:43.26 | aduarte | how can I read my memos? |
| 01:43.34 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: let's try a different direction on this. I think heimdal-servers as part of its conf process runs some update-inetd commands to set up lines in inetd.conf. I can't get it to make those changes by reinstalling it, so is there a way I can see what those commands are using dpkg or similar? |
| 01:43.43 | abrotman | aduarte: /msg memoserv help |
| 01:43.47 | aduarte | thx |
| 01:43.55 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: One of the big things about CL is that the best implementations are for UNIX. There are CL compilers for windows, but they aren't cheap and just plain aren't as good as the UNIX versions. |
| 01:43.57 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: i'm not sure, i don't mess with inetd much |
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| 01:44.13 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: right, so C++ it is |
| 01:44.23 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: You will live to regret that decision. |
| 01:44.28 | sancho___ | forget inetd then, but how about seeing what commands are executed along with a packages's installation? |
| 01:44.37 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah C# is pretty goo |
| 01:44.37 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: maybe, we'll see |
| 01:44.40 | mhall | SerajewelKS: good* |
| 01:44.47 | buu | So. Anyone got any more pointers for figuring out why raid_sync would hardlock the box if I had a network connection active? |
| 01:44.53 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: By the way: .NET languages can be natively compiled. |
| 01:44.54 | SerajewelKS | mhall: C# is a microsoft-developed standard |
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| 01:45.07 | kspath | I am studying C C++ Python Perl and Ruby concurrent with Java/JBoss on the side I am going nutz |
| 01:45.13 | mhall | SerajewelKS: so? |
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| 01:45.24 | pipeline | kspath: heh, any one of those alone is enough to drive a man nuts. |
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| 01:45.27 | mhall | SerajewelKS: it was submitted to ECMA |
| 01:45.36 | SerajewelKS | mhall: i see using C# for a game about the same as using mp3 for the game's audio |
| 01:45.57 | deadcat | my friend's system failed. he logs in run level1 and his user@host is now none@host, why would itr be none? whats fucked? |
| 01:46.01 | liable | buu: try looking down the irq/interupt road. |
| 01:46.03 | SerajewelKS | mhall: plus i'd be forcing non-windows users to install mono, or some other .net runtime |
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| 01:46.11 | SerajewelKS | mhall: i can statically link many of the dependencies with C++ |
| 01:46.32 | buu | liable: You've probably guessed what I'm about to say, but uh, how? |
| 01:46.43 | mhall | deadcat: i think sometimes the network shit like hostnames is not set up vÃs-a-vÃs it being a non-network run level |
| 01:46.51 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Indeed, you would be forcing people to install a runtime. What a surprise :P |
| 01:46.52 | mhall | deadcat: so i'm not sure i would recommend panic just yet |
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| 01:47.10 | bbrazil | deadcat: sounds like nsswitch/passwd problems maybe? |
| 01:47.10 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: that is one of my gripes with java, actually |
| 01:47.11 | liable | buu: google, dude, i dont know much about it myself. (never had problems with it.) |
| 01:47.20 | buu | Ok |
| 01:47.33 | deadcat | mhall: he needed to fsck manually. i think its really fucked up. should he just reinstall? |
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| 01:47.36 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Eh, with java, it's a legitimate gripe: it's a bitch to actually get the runtime. |
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| 01:47.50 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: it is? |
| 01:48.05 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: You have to agree to the license yada yada... never mind what a bitch it is under free unix. |
| 01:48.06 | mhall | deadcat: hmm, sounds like time to get the important data out with tar and possibly dd_rescue |
| 01:48.06 | n0ideaatall | do you guys know if a driver for a ati radeon x300 se is available on the last distro available to public ? |
| 01:48.49 | deadcat | mhall: thanks |
| 01:48.49 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: In contrast, mono is packaged on all the major free UNIX systems, and only a couple of clicks away for any other... |
| 01:48.50 | kspath | I am only learning Java to clean it off and replace it |
| 01:48.50 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: okay, but when the dust settles i still don't want to force *nix people to install mono to play my game |
| 01:48.50 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: And Microsoft's framework is available via Windows UPdate... |
| 01:48.50 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: But you're comfortable forcing them to install a C++ runtime? |
| 01:49.07 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: you mean the one that comes installed on every major operating system? |
| 01:49.11 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Debian is somewhat unusual among distributions, in that a C++ runtime is part of the base system. |
| 01:49.19 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Most other distributions make the C++ runtime optional :P |
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| 01:49.34 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: i know that debian and redhat install it by default |
| 01:49.54 | abrotman | .NET is not installed by default on any current MS offering AFAIK |
| 01:50.01 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: exactly |
| 01:50.01 | abrotman | or rather .. the .NET framework |
| 01:50.10 | abrotman | however .. the win32 API is always there |
| 01:50.16 | cem_ | whats the command for quake2? |
| 01:50.17 | pipeline | abrotman: 2003 has a .NET 1.0 framework installed by default. All other versions of windows will be offered .NET via windows update. That includes 9x. |
| 01:50.20 | deadcat | mhall: say he has bad sector on his hda3, if he reinstall. will debian skip those sectors? |
| 01:50.33 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: 9x is not supported on windows update |
| 01:50.47 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Since when is that? o_0 |
| 01:50.49 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: since a few months ago, iirc |
| 01:50.59 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: Ah well, .NET is still available for all fifteen 9x users left. |
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| 01:51.30 | PENIXOR | is there a dep for the code from opendildonics.org? |
| 01:51.34 | abrotman | pipeline: i rarely mess with 2003 .. i just don't remember it being there |
| 01:51.37 | mhall | deadcat: oof, IDE drives are supposed to hide those with automated defect management |
| 01:51.37 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: anyway, my point being (a) C++ runtimes are preinstalled on my target platforms, (b) .NET runtimes are not, and (c) there are no decent .NET IDEs for *nix anyway. |
| 01:51.43 | abrotman | PENIXOR: wrong channel |
| 01:51.47 | deadcat | k |
| 01:52.01 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: ...but there's a decent C++ IDE out there? |
| 01:52.02 | liable | wenas? |
| 01:52.03 | PENIXOR | u dont use deps |
| 01:52.15 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:52.16 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 01:52.26 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: C++ doesn't really need one (vim+make). as i still don't know C#, one would be nice |
| 01:52.41 | abrotman | PENIXOR: did you install debian?> |
| 01:52.45 | mhall | deadcat: if one actually comes through that's considered a pretty serious problem with the drive |
| 01:52.54 | PENIXOR | it has the hat right? |
| 01:52.58 | bucky | SerajewelKS: you don't like monodevelop ? |
| 01:52.59 | PENIXOR | or the devil? |
| 01:53.01 | cem_ | how do i start quake 2, whats the command? |
| 01:53.01 | mhall | deadcat: so without further testing i'm not sure i would trust it for anything important |
| 01:53.11 | SerajewelKS | bucky: you mean the one that crashes when you try to do anything? no |
| 01:53.12 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: uh, vim and nant? |
| 01:53.13 | deadcat | mhall: thanks |
| 01:53.28 | abrotman | PENIXOR: you're in the wrong channel |
| 01:53.33 | bucky | SerajewelKS: that's only the debian version of monodevelop |
| 01:53.33 | PENIXOR | huh |
| 01:53.45 | SerajewelKS | bucky: right. and i'm using debian. |
| 01:53.45 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: I don't know how I would live without ant and nant. Make is a goddamn nightmare. |
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| 01:54.04 | aum | hi - where does apt keep its local package cache? |
| 01:54.06 | n0ideaatall | abrotman: lolllllllllll |
| 01:54.11 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: yes, but make is not a java program and hence is fast |
| 01:54.11 | n0ideaatall | funny cartoon |
| 01:54.16 | PENIXOR | r there any of the opendildonics developers on freenode? |
| 01:54.20 | abrotman | aum: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 01:54.26 | bucky | SerajewelKS: monodevelop crashes for one thing the docs aren't installed where they should be and that makes it crash |
| 01:54.27 | abrotman | PENIXOR: please leave this channel |
| 01:54.28 | aum | abrotman: thx |
| 01:54.31 | SerajewelKS | open dildo nics? |
| 01:54.37 | cem_ | how do i start quake 2, whats the command? |
| 01:54.38 | kspath | tools like make can grow on you |
| 01:54.40 | n0ideaatall | lamo |
| 01:54.41 | bucky | at least that was my experience |
| 01:54.59 | pipeline | SerajewelKS: wtf |
| 01:55.12 | SerajewelKS | pipeline: yes? |
| 01:55.20 | buu | SerajewelKS: open-dildonics |
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| 01:55.40 | SerajewelKS | buu: yeah but that's not as much fun to write |
| 01:55.58 | buu | SerajewelKS: Guess not. |
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| 01:57.27 | shadowarts | is there a reason i need bind9-host on my system? |
| 01:57.36 | shadowarts | or is jsut some default package that comes |
| 01:58.13 | SerajewelKS | shadowarts: did you pick 'DNS Server' in tasksel? |
| 01:58.25 | shadowarts | SerajewelKS: never used tasksel |
| 01:58.42 | SerajewelKS | shadowarts: dunno then. purge it and see if dpkg complains. |
| 01:58.43 | EdLin | shadowarts: tasksel is part of base-config |
| 01:58.45 | shadowarts | this is a shell server with php/apache 1.3/msyql |
| 01:58.47 | PENIXOR | don't underestimate teledildonics as a growing field of research in the HCI community, we all know sexuality and technology are hopelessly interelated, unfortunately some are too uptight to give this important research the respect it deserves! Hrmph! |
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| 01:59.04 | shadowarts | it will remove dnsutils too |
| 01:59.06 | shadowarts | do i need that? |
| 01:59.16 | bucky | sometimes i miss mwilson |
| 01:59.25 | SerajewelKS | shadowarts: those tools are useful, yes |
| 01:59.25 | abrotman | and i haven't seen an op in quite a while .. go figure |
| 01:59.38 | SerajewelKS | shadowarts: i have bind9-host installed too |
| 01:59.41 | shadowarts | ok |
| 01:59.54 | SerajewelKS | shadowarts: it's actually not BIND, but some extra thing, by the looks of it |
| 02:00.00 | deadcat | bucky: (= |
| 02:00.01 | shadowarts | ok |
| 02:00.11 | SimonRaven | what a dumbass .... (PENIXOR) |
| 02:00.13 | shadowarts | just trying to do a little spring cleaning before spring |
| 02:00.18 | shadowarts | so when spring rolls around |
| 02:00.21 | shadowarts | i just relax lol |
| 02:00.23 | Azar | ewww, I just googled that to see what it means |
| 02:00.34 | abrotman | shadowarts: i'll take a spring roll |
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| 02:01.14 | shadowarts | lol |
| 02:01.50 | shadowarts | also one other question |
| 02:01.54 | SerajewelKS | mhall: he cramping your style? |
| 02:01.59 | Azar | what is going on with mwilson ? |
| 02:02.03 | shadowarts | i noticed that debian always installs libx11 |
| 02:02.19 | bucky | Azar: he's banned for life apparently |
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| 02:02.29 | n0ideaatall | do you guys know if a driver for a ati radeon x300 se is available on the last distro available to public ? |
| 02:02.31 | Azar | wow, amazing |
| 02:02.38 | Azar | thanks bucky |
| 02:02.38 | abrotman | n0ideaatall: ask #ati |
| 02:02.41 | cheal | bucky: hah, really? how come? |
| 02:02.53 | kspath | where is greycat? |
| 02:02.55 | bucky | i don't know |
| 02:03.01 | eegore | who is mwilson |
| 02:03.26 | abrotman | eegore: guy who used to hang out here .. |
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| 02:03.30 | SerajewelKS | 119 - #debian: ban mwilson*!*@* [by ballard.freenode.net, 158837 secs ago] |
| 02:03.45 | abrotman | kspath: he left of his own free will .. politeness police |
| 02:03.45 | eegore | as annoying as vladster? |
| 02:03.51 | cheal | SerajewelKS: where do you get that information? |
| 02:03.53 | bucky | not even |
| 02:03.58 | SerajewelKS | cheal: /mode #debian +b |
| 02:04.03 | jsmidt | How do I determine my soundcard without ripping apart my computer? Can Debian tell me? |
| 02:04.13 | buu | jsmidt: lspci ? |
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| 02:04.33 | SerajewelKS | !seen greycat |
| 02:04.34 | dpkg | greycat <i=rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 2d 5h 43m 42s ago, saying: 'that one's 404. http://www.ruhr.de/home/smallo/award.html had it, but appears down/slow.'. |
| 02:04.34 | n0ideaatall | cheal: /mode #debian +b |
| 02:04.49 | jsmidt | Is lspci a command or a package? |
| 02:04.53 | cheal | SerajewelKS: heh. thanks. I did see mwilson scroll |
| 02:04.57 | SerajewelKS | n0ideaatall: keep honing those copy/paste skills ;) |
| 02:05.01 | Azar | jsmidt is a command |
| 02:05.08 | jsmidt | Thanks |
| 02:05.37 | cheal | does somebody know why mwilson is banned? |
| 02:05.38 | n0ideaatall | lol |
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| 02:05.45 | cheal | arg |
| 02:05.50 | bucky | cheal: no one knows why |
| 02:06.02 | n0ideaatall | getting good at it |
| 02:06.07 | SerajewelKS | cheal: aside from the fact that he was a rude ass? |
| 02:06.18 | kspath | dry humped a freenode admin without permission? |
| 02:06.23 | Azar | was he rude with you, SerajewelKS ? |
| 02:06.26 | bucky | he never swore or anything that i can remember |
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| 02:06.35 | SerajewelKS | Azar: on more than one occasion |
| 02:06.47 | grumpydog | bucky Armand dear sir! |
| 02:06.50 | n0ideaatall | \quit |
| 02:06.52 | Azar | he never talked to me.. so I do not know |
| 02:06.56 | bucky | hi grumpydog |
| 02:07.01 | grumpydog | hi there |
| 02:07.05 | eegore | does gcombust work with IDE dvd recorders |
| 02:07.09 | SerajewelKS | Azar: granted, i deserved to be hassled for some of the questions, but he was over the top |
| 02:07.10 | liable | cheal: the incident is on kingsleys site if you want to read it. |
| 02:07.24 | cheal | liable: hahaha. ok, thanks |
| 02:07.30 | SerajewelKS | liable: kingsleys site? |
| 02:07.32 | sancho___ | liable: url?? |
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| 02:07.39 | Azar | Guerin humped me several times, but I do not keep grudge against him.. |
| 02:07.44 | liable | !kingsleysmite SerajewelKS |
| 02:07.44 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer SerajewelKS: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.066937430567247! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 02:07.56 | grumpydog | Bucky I am no longer freematrix staff, I cannot help people that cannot help themselves I am really sorry. |
| 02:08.05 | SerajewelKS | liable: aha |
| 02:08.05 | Azar | :) now we all want to know.. dammit |
| 02:08.29 | bucky | grumpydog: that's ok.. i'm not helpless :) |
| 02:08.51 | SerajewelKS | liable: that's a pretty short incident |
| 02:09.11 | liable | SerajewelKS: yeah, it doesnt tell the whole story i think. |
| 02:09.15 | cheal | at least with mwilson we can have a metric for useless rudeness. how many Mw do you guys think I'm worth? |
| 02:09.19 | liable | SerajewelKS: but you get the idea. |
| 02:09.27 | liable | haha |
| 02:09.29 | SerajewelKS | liable: the story i see is, mwilson joins, and is banned |
| 02:09.47 | liable | SerajewelKS: go back to October i think it was. |
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| 02:10.08 | SerajewelKS | liable: if there was a "go back" link i could try that |
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| 02:10.53 | liable | SerajewelKS: bah, i thought he had old logs. guess he doesnt keep em. |
| 02:10.58 | twinsen | what's the command to install a ppd file for a cups printer? |
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| 02:11.42 | twinsen | is there a dpkg-reconfigure option I could use to make things easier? |
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| 02:12.24 | grumpydog | bucky, appreciated, I am almost on the verge of twating gentoo bucky and asking all my debian proferssors around the world and BSDer's just to make a move and say no more critisiam =) |
| 02:12.41 | bucky | ic |
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| 02:12.45 | grumpydog | hehe |
| 02:13.37 | eegore | God I want my K3b back |
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| 02:14.23 | grumpydog | bucky debian and BSD can just totally take the piss with KDE and others., =) |
| 02:15.00 | cheal | !be mwilson barbie |
| 02:15.00 | dpkg | What in the world does that have to do with barbie? Other than nothing, of course. |
| 02:15.29 | cheal | ah, who knew we's miss mwilson so much |
| 02:15.38 | buu | So hrm, how can I detect an irq/interrupt problem? |
| 02:16.10 | Azar | I just got used to see him once in a while, I never seen him sluring and yelling at people |
| 02:16.11 | abrotman | buu: you still didn't figure that out? |
| 02:16.15 | buu | abrotman: No =[ |
| 02:16.22 | buu | abrotman: Are you familiar with my current problems? |
| 02:16.36 | SerajewelKS | cheal: mwilson and Brian (family guy) have similar responses. i wonder of one of the was modelled after the other. |
| 02:16.38 | abrotman | buu: 5 controllers .. 2 drives each .. not all showing up |
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| 02:16.51 | SerajewelKS | cheal: "Peter, are you sure you read a book? Are you sure it wasn't... nothing?" |
| 02:17.05 | cheal | SerajewelKS: no idea about Brian |
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| 02:17.16 | buu | abrotman: Naw, I can see them all now. However, when I try to run the mdadm --create bit, it runs raid_resync. If I run that process with a network cable connected and "active" it hard locks the box. |
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| 02:17.31 | abrotman | buu: that's cute |
| 02:17.41 | buu | abrotman: For example, if I start the resynch without it being plugged in, wait an hour, plug it in, it hard locks. |
| 02:17.45 | eegore | You guys have a general ban on tor? |
| 02:17.48 | deadcat | instead of running dpkg --get-selections, is there a dir/file i can check that? |
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| 02:18.03 | cheal | peterS I think October 17 should be celebrated every year in #debian as Guy Mwilson Day |
| 02:18.06 | abrotman | buu: cat /proc/interrupts .. shows what's in use .. you may need to specify IRQs in the BIOS |
| 02:18.07 | buu | And just recently, with the network cable in and working, I ran pvcreate on sda..sdj and hard locked it. |
| 02:18.20 | kspath | what is the deal with developing for multi-platform WHAT?!?! Trying to earn money? Starving and homeless is too good for you?!?!? |
| 02:18.30 | buu | abrotman: Oddly enough, it got all the way to sdj before hard locking. |
| 02:18.35 | cem_ | is there a program to convert wav to mp3's for debian? |
| 02:18.43 | abrotman | !tell cem_ about lame |
| 02:18.46 | abrotman | !tell cem_ about marillat |
| 02:18.51 | buu | abrotman: But once it came back up, with the cable connected and working, I can just run "pvcreate /dev/sdj" without problems. |
| 02:19.07 | abrotman | buu: aren't these hardware raid controllers ? |
| 02:19.12 | buu | Not really, no. |
| 02:19.14 | liable | reading the bans always gives me a giggle.. :) |
| 02:19.18 | kspath | is there a program to rip legit CDs to ogg ? |
| 02:19.24 | buu | abrotman: Theoretically they are, but they aren't doing anything, I'm just using them as raid contrllers. |
| 02:19.32 | Supaplex | what's that package survey project? |
| 02:19.38 | eegore | I can't find the public key for etch from merilat |
| 02:19.49 | abrotman | !tell eegore about marillat key |
| 02:19.54 | Supaplex | eg, counts what people have installed to infer what's the most usefull |
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| 02:20.16 | bouma | hello i'm new to debian but not linux. i'm wondering if a debian system can fit in 2gig with X (but not any big desktop like gnome/kde) ?? |
| 02:20.17 | buu | abrotman: Argh, not using them as raid controllers, using them as *sata* controllers. |
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| 02:20.52 | Supaplex | bouma: yup, just be conservitave about what you install. |
| 02:20.55 | kspath | my two year old son says hi to you all |
| 02:21.08 | aum | are there any gui tools for building .deb files, or do ppl just build the control, postinst, md5sums etc files by hand? |
| 02:21.09 | buu | abrotman: I can read /proc/interrupts, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for here.. |
| 02:21.11 | Supaplex | kspath.son, greetings. |
| 02:21.17 | abrotman | kspath: let him type .. it will be the same as some of the other people talking here |
| 02:21.23 | abrotman | buu: see any duplicates? |
| 02:21.28 | kspath | bf bbgcff |
| 02:21.40 | abrotman | kspath: a/s/l ? |
| 02:21.51 | Azar | bouma: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s3.1.1 |
| 02:21.57 | Supaplex | abrotman: "jailbait" ;) |
| 02:22.06 | buu | abrotman: It lists libata under 10,11 and 12; 12 has libata,eth0 |
| 02:22.13 | Supaplex | abrotman: atleast his son is.. anyway, OT :-x |
| 02:22.16 | buu | Supaplex: "fbi agent" |
| 02:22.22 | moomintroll | Hi, can anyone suggest where I can find out how to fix up ssh/sshd? It stopped working after I upgraded to testing. When I enter 'ssh otherhost', I get the message "Permission denied (publickey)". Searched google. Can't find much current or useful. |
| 02:22.29 | Supaplex | buu: =-> |
| 02:22.51 | Supaplex | moomintroll: BTS |
| 02:22.53 | buu | moomintroll: You managed to make your sshd only accept publickey auth.. I think |
| 02:23.05 | abrotman | buu: i mean .. you could try to specify that eth0 use another IRQ in the bios |
| 02:23.11 | bouma | Supaplex: ok to elaborate a little, i dont even know if debian has gcc as a necessity (i've mostly used gentoo and obviously u always have a compiler) but i want a compiler, also i want texmacs |
| 02:23.15 | buu | abrotman: I can't figure out how =/ |
| 02:23.23 | abrotman | buu: PCI options? |
| 02:23.39 | buu | Hrm. Let me get on another computer. |
| 02:23.40 | abrotman | bouma: probably |
| 02:23.43 | eegore | thanks |
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| 02:24.02 | Supaplex | bouma: apt-cache show <package> will tell you lots of useful info about the package, including disk and dependency requirements etc. |
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| 02:24.23 | eegore | gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found |
| 02:24.32 | bouma | Azar: i notice it says no usb unless you want a challange?? i have a usb keyboard, surely with kernel 2.6 thats no longer an issue?? |
| 02:24.50 | Supaplex | !topicsmite eegore |
| 02:24.51 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon eegore. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:24.55 | buu | abrotman: I live part three. |
| 02:25.00 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:25.04 | Azar | bouma, that was for the old Woody, Sarge handles usb |
| 02:25.24 | Azar | Debian Sarge with a 2.6.8 has tons of usb modules |
| 02:25.36 | Azar | err a 2.6.8kernel and up |
| 02:25.42 | eegore | I guess that fixed it |
| 02:26.21 | Azar | bouma there are 4 versions of Debian: old-stable: Woody / stable Sarge / testing Etch / unstable Sid |
| 02:26.31 | bouma | noice, well i shall do some reading and see if i cant find any more questions. |
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| 02:26.36 | eegore | Would it be advisable to compile K3B from scratch? |
| 02:26.44 | Supaplex | and there are countless older ones long since forgotten |
| 02:26.56 | Supaplex | eegore: for fun and profit ;) |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | eegore: probably not |
| 02:27.29 | Supaplex | eegore: backporting, or tweaking the build options for omission/inclusion of various stuffs |
| 02:27.42 | Supaplex | usually not however, unless you know you need to. |
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| 02:28.15 | eegore | Nothing else works like it and I am hooked on it |
| 02:28.19 | Azar | bouma, more manuals if you need something else: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install |
| 02:28.29 | seeeS | anyone else finding that gnome or X is kicking them out every 2-4 hours? |
| 02:28.54 | ne0futur | gpg: key 4F368D5D: public key "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" imported |
| 02:28.58 | Supaplex | seeeS: my X has been stable for months w/o a restart |
| 02:28.58 | ne0futur | i have this too |
| 02:29.00 | ne0futur | gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found |
| 02:29.05 | abrotman | seeeS: DPMS might be doing it |
| 02:29.05 | ne0futur | and I signed debiazn developpers |
| 02:29.13 | eegore | it is the one KDE app that blows the doors off of a lot of simalar apps |
| 02:29.16 | ne0futur | hum not as root perhaps |
| 02:29.26 | eegore | even for windows |
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| 02:29.40 | Supaplex | windows? what's that? |
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| 02:29.58 | eegore | Something I am stuck with at work |
| 02:30.05 | eegore | I hate it |
| 02:30.09 | Supaplex | ohhh yea, that platform for solitare and paint. |
| 02:30.23 | eegore | so I run cygwin |
| 02:30.45 | eegore | and then tunnel through the firewall with tor |
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| 02:30.47 | buu | abrotman: Ok, I'm back. I boot in the bios, I have an initial menu option named "pnp/pci", I open that and I have a menu item called "resources controlled by" [automatic manual], which I set to manualy, which lets me access the menu item named IRQ Resources, which gives me a list of irqs |
| 02:31.09 | buu | abrotman: But each IRQ only has two options "PCI" or "Reserved" |
| 02:31.20 | eegore | That is why I can't get in here when I am at work |
| 02:31.21 | abrotman | buu: reserved might help |
| 02:31.26 | eegore | you have tor blocked |
| 02:31.39 | buu | abrotman: Really? Any ideas on which ones? |
| 02:31.40 | abrotman | yes we do |
| 02:31.47 | abrotman | buu: which what ones? |
| 02:31.55 | buu | abrotman: Er, which ones should be reserved? |
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| 02:32.01 | abrotman | buu: whenever i've done it .. it lets you pick slots or devices |
| 02:32.20 | buu | hrm |
| 02:32.24 | buu | Maybe I need a bios update |
| 02:32.33 | buu | It's one of those "award software" ones |
| 02:32.37 | abrotman | oh .. yay |
| 02:32.53 | ne0futur | is this 4F368D5D key signed by all debian developers ? |
| 02:32.59 | GaiaX11 | Everytime that i try to access a FTP server it gives me the message: Security. Bad IP connecting and i cannot access them through gftp, synaptic, etc. How can i fix that? |
| 02:33.09 | ne0futur | 8 signatures not checked due to missing keys |
| 02:33.11 | ne0futur | ;( |
| 02:33.34 | seeeS | mine was stable for months, but for the last week or so it dies on two different computers |
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| 02:33.58 | seeeS | ne0futur: the ftp master key? |
| 02:34.11 | eegore | My only option may be to compile |
| 02:34.15 | abrotman | seeeS: try turning dpms off |
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| 02:34.27 | ne0futur | yes |
| 02:34.35 | ne0futur | this key should have a big Web of Trust |
| 02:34.48 | seeeS | abrotman: ill try that, thnanks |
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| 02:35.04 | ne0futur | so I have a trust path chen importing it |
| 02:35.09 | abrotman | !tell seeeS about dpms |
| 02:35.30 | abrotman | where's gravity |
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| 02:36.27 | molinero | I need know if contrib is totally free |
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| 02:36.31 | seeeS | ne0futur: only 9 signautres means not all debian developers have signed it |
| 02:36.37 | seeeS | molinero: its not |
| 02:36.43 | molinero | :( |
| 02:36.57 | seeeS | otherwise it would be in free wouldn't it? |
| 02:37.02 | dvs | molinero: those programs are but they depend on something that is not free |
| 02:37.10 | GaiaX11 | I cannot access any FTP server. Any help? |
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| 02:37.19 | ne0futur | this key should have a big Web of Trust so I have a trust path chen importing it |
| 02:37.25 | abrotman | molinero: contrib depends on non-free stuff to work .. but is free .. |
| 02:37.26 | ne0futur | since I signed debian developpers |
| 02:37.28 | seeeS | yes, i suppose technically you could install the foo-installer package |
| 02:37.30 | abrotman | !tell molinero about contrib |
| 02:37.38 | ne0futur | i should have a trust path nop ? |
| 02:37.40 | seeeS | and not the non-free foo |
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| 02:37.54 | seeeS | well, i dont think i have a web of trust back to the ftp key |
| 02:38.00 | kbrooks | bed |
| 02:38.12 | apikoros | hey guys, looking for recommendations what your "must-have" packages that you get right away after a standard install. |
| 02:38.18 | kspath | tuxpaint is AWESOME for little kids |
| 02:38.21 | ne0futur | Now I have ;) I signed it to offer my WoT to this debian key |
| 02:38.35 | buu | Hrm. Can I update the bios through lunix without a floppy or anything? |
| 02:38.41 | seeeS | apikoros: what does this thnig do? |
| 02:39.18 | eegore | that is where the rub is, the qt libs are not ready yet |
| 02:39.23 | apikoros | seeeS, er, what? i'm just asking which packages which aren't installed by typical installations people consider essential |
| 02:39.38 | abrotman | apikoros: depends on your usage |
| 02:39.45 | seeeS | apikoros: for what sort of device? a desktop is different to a webserver |
| 02:40.05 | liable | buu: unlikely. check your mobo manual. |
| 02:40.05 | apikoros | laptop, my main workstation |
| 02:40.37 | buu | liable: It doesn't seem to mention updating the bios.. |
| 02:40.39 | Supaplex | buu: unless the vendor has a solution... |
| 02:41.00 | liable | buu: thats pretty piss poor. try there web site. |
| 02:41.02 | kspath | I hope all but 20 linux distros die things are getting icky out there |
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| 02:44.09 | kspath | Let us create more solutions looking for problems(to create)? |
| 02:44.13 | seeeS | apikoros: well you could run tasksel, but it gives a wide selection. otherwise select gnome or kde and that should pull most of what you want in |
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| 02:44.54 | apikoros | kspath, yeah, i know, i was hoping for cool, relatively unkown but useful picks |
| 02:45.03 | kspath | even better lets create 20 more languages and 20 more WMs |
| 02:47.22 | kspath | Another way to state it. Lets design 20 new kinds of hammers that all require 20 new nail designs. Just because we are special and want to create something "better" |
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| 02:48.33 | shadow98 | i dont see any of these packages for debian jpeg, gd, zlib. |
| 02:48.43 | cheal | !mwilson |
| 02:48.43 | dpkg | Hah! |
| 02:49.02 | cheal | dpkg: no, mwilson is mourned since 2005-10-17 |
| 02:49.02 | dpkg | cheal: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 02:49.07 | cheal | hah |
| 02:49.17 | kspath | shadow98: apt-cache search zlib ? |
| 02:49.21 | cheal | dpkg: fine then, I'll shut up about mwilson |
| 02:49.49 | shadow98 | what about jpeg and gd? |
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| 02:49.59 | kspath | shadow98: apt-cache search jpeg |
| 02:50.13 | kspath | shadow98: apt-cache search gd | less |
| 02:50.34 | kspath | shadow98: there are about a dozen ways to search for such things |
| 02:51.00 | shadow98 | i still havent found packages i need |
| 02:51.04 | Azar | packages site still down :( |
| 02:51.08 | abrotman | yes it is |
| 02:51.32 | Azar | been "days"... I hope we get some goodies with that outage |
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| 02:51.58 | shadow98 | im following snort install for getoo |
| 02:52.17 | abrotman | shadow98: wtf are you trying to isntall? |
| 02:52.22 | AnonymousHive | I'm currently having a very strange problem with xorg, and I'm wondering if anyone could help me |
| 02:52.27 | shadow98 | snort |
| 02:52.38 | shadow98 | base,mysql |
| 02:52.48 | AnonymousHive | Is there a flood channel I could go to to pase the logs? |
| 02:52.48 | Gnea | !tell AnonymousHive about ask |
| 02:52.55 | Gnea | !paste |
| 02:52.55 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 02:52.58 | shadow98 | i need gd,jpeg,zlib..and others |
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| 02:53.02 | dvs | !paster |
| 02:53.02 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 02:53.26 | AnonymousHive | Well, being as I can't start my xserver atm, I can't use that site dvs |
| 02:53.30 | shadow98 | http://www.snort.org/docs/Snort_Mysql_BASE.pdf |
| 02:53.33 | Gnea | the paster is really better for logs |
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| 02:53.42 | dvs | AnonymousHive: Oh. Good point. ;-) |
| 02:53.47 | Gnea | AnonymousHive: should work fine with lynx or links |
| 02:54.37 | abrotman | shadow98: so what's the problem? |
| 02:55.15 | shadow98 | abortman: how do i know what i need in debians cvase? |
| 02:55.47 | abrotman | shadow98: ok .. i'm not going to read that .. what are you looking for ? |
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| 02:56.08 | shadow98 | those off the wall packages |
| 02:56.17 | shadow98 | gd,jpeg |
| 02:56.25 | shadow98 | zlib |
| 02:56.38 | abrotman | dude .. do you need packages to compile ? |
| 02:56.50 | livingtm | is it possible to mount an ext3 filesystem from windows? Id like to share data between my WinXP/Debian dual boot system |
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| 02:57.00 | abrotman | !tell livingtm about explore2fs |
| 02:57.06 | dvs | livingtm: Why not try a fat drive? |
| 02:57.11 | shadow98 | abortman: i was tryomg to find apt packages |
| 02:57.24 | abrotman | for what?! |
| 02:57.31 | abrotman | so you can compile something? or just to install ? |
| 02:57.35 | livingtm | dvs that might do it for me in one direction, but id like to go both directions |
| 02:57.40 | shadow98 | gd,jpeg,zlib |
| 02:57.48 | livingtm | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:57.48 | dvs | livingtm: What? Linux can read FAT drives. |
| 02:58.23 | abrotman | shadow98: FOR WHAT?! |
| 02:58.32 | AnonymousHive | Is there some way to get the output of a command into a file? |
| 02:58.33 | abrotman | shadow98: are you trying to compile something? |
| 02:58.45 | eegore | I forgot, mythtv uses mysql server |
| 02:58.47 | kspath | How much spoon feeding do people need? |
| 02:58.47 | shadow98 | the snort installation im doing.... |
| 02:59.02 | shadow98 | im sure its for base |
| 02:59.04 | abrotman | i'm gonna freaking smack you |
| 02:59.13 | abrotman | shadow98: are you compiling?!!?!?!? |
| 02:59.17 | abrotman | it's a god damn simple question |
| 02:59.22 | SerajewelKS | i have a PCI TV tuner with device ID "1131:7133" (philips semiconductors SAA7133). is there a linux driver for this? |
| 02:59.23 | shadow98 | ;; the console for easy viewing of snort logs |
| 02:59.28 | shadow98 | no |
| 02:59.30 | AnonymousHive | Is there some way to get the output of a command into a file? |
| 02:59.38 | shadow98 | all apt packages |
| 02:59.43 | kspath | abrotman: I do not think shadow knows or understands your questions |
| 02:59.43 | abrotman | AnonymousHive: yes .. google "bash redirect" |
| 02:59.50 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i think so, should be under the video drivers section of the kernel |
| 02:59.51 | Azar | AnonymousHive: > redirect |
| 02:59.51 | abrotman | shadow98: apt-cache search libgd |
| 02:59.54 | abrotman | shadow98: apt-cache search libjpeg |
| 02:59.56 | abrotman | shadow98: apt-cache search zlib |
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| 03:00.50 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: a few years ago there was not a driver, and with the stock 2.6.12 kernel i don't have support OOTB. |
| 03:00.52 | shadow98 | there are like a million packages when i do that |
| 03:00.58 | kspath | shadow98: do you want a text file of all packages ? |
| 03:01.10 | kspath | shadow98: computers have lots of files |
| 03:01.24 | kspath | shadow98: use | less or |more |
| 03:01.29 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: device drivers -> multimedia devices -> video for linux -> video adapters |
| 03:01.40 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: modconf? |
| 03:01.41 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: 2.6.15 seems to have most quirks worked out |
| 03:01.52 | kspath | shadow98: grep egrep less and more are your friends |
| 03:01.53 | shadow98 | i jiust want the packages i need |
| 03:02.05 | kspath | shadow98: than just get them |
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| 03:02.23 | kspath | shadow98: there is NO read your mind OS or interface |
| 03:02.25 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: make menuconfig (maybe the module is already built? i built mine and made a .deb to install) |
| 03:02.26 | dvs | !find dpkg libz.so |
| 03:02.29 | shadow98 | http://www.snort.org/docs/Snort_Mysql_BASE.pdf |
| 03:02.36 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it's not in the stock kernel? |
| 03:02.37 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'dpkg libz.so' returned no results. |
| 03:02.46 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: checking.. |
| 03:02.53 | shadow98 | everything past the base package i cant find |
| 03:03.11 | shadow98 | in the above pdf |
| 03:03.12 | livingtm | abrotman: explore2fs wont let me mount the ext3 drive will it? so that i can save a document there for instance? |
| 03:03.13 | eegore | could someone explain what went wrong here?? |
| 03:03.20 | eegore | http://pastebin.com/507628 |
| 03:03.21 | abrotman | livingtm: why not ? |
| 03:03.22 | Gnea | finally got the laptop to behave earlier, i can actually use it now |
| 03:03.22 | kspath | shadow98: ok, great than you have work to do finding them |
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| 03:03.33 | eegore | setup for mythtv |
| 03:03.41 | abrotman | shadow98: i already told you how to find those packages |
| 03:03.52 | livingtm | abrotman: well, i havnt set up the dual boot yet so i cant really see live data.. it only looked like i could browse and copy files over.. thats why im asking :-) |
| 03:04.07 | buu | spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. |
| 03:04.14 | buu | Could that cause a crash? |
| 03:04.16 | abrotman | livingtm: the other one is supposed to be able to do both |
| 03:04.24 | kspath | shadow98: besides what abrotman told you there are vast resources available via http://www.debian.org and numerous others found via google |
| 03:04.27 | abrotman | !tell livingtm about ext2ifs |
| 03:04.28 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: ah, yes it is - should be saa7134.ko |
| 03:04.33 | vicarious | go to distrowatch and download mythos |
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| 03:04.45 | abrotman | !spurious 8259a interrupt |
| 03:04.45 | dpkg | from memory, spurious 8259a interrupt is see http://search2.intel.com/corporate/default.aspx?culture=en-US&q=spurious+8259a&x=0&y=0 |
| 03:05.08 | Gnea | abrotman: gah, i hate that shit :) |
| 03:05.11 | abrotman | vicarious: that doesn't answer his question |
| 03:05.16 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah i don't think that one works with my card |
| 03:05.19 | abrotman | Gnea: the spurious thing ? |
| 03:05.27 | vicarious | I must have read worng, apologies |
| 03:05.40 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: will try though, brb |
| 03:05.45 | abrotman | eegore: that's a mysql config issue |
| 03:05.49 | kspath | I fail to understand how someone needs or could use snort or its powers without being able to search a listing of text output |
| 03:05.52 | buu | abrotman: Intel specification update? |
| 03:05.55 | eegore | cd .. |
| 03:06.10 | Gnea | abrotman: nod |
| 03:06.16 | eegore | I figured as much, never worked with it before |
| 03:06.19 | livingtm | abrotman: arg, that one is read only |
| 03:06.24 | buu | Gnea: What do you know about it? |
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| 03:06.38 | Gnea | buu: i know that it sucks ass. |
| 03:06.45 | abrotman | buu: i'm not sure which it is .. Gnea seems to know more |
| 03:06.45 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:06.55 | buu | Gnea: Er, how so? |
| 03:06.59 | abrotman | livingtm: is that what the webpage says ? |
| 03:07.04 | vicarious | have you tried to install unser su -? |
| 03:07.12 | vicarious | with the hyphen? |
| 03:07.20 | Gnea | buu: i've seen that message before just before a system hardlocked |
| 03:07.31 | AnonymousHive | could someone please come to #flood and help me diagnose my xserver problem? |
| 03:07.38 | buu | Gnea: Well, it hard locked right befor that. |
| 03:07.41 | Gnea | typically, if that error is occurring, it's telling you something is wrong with your hardware |
| 03:07.42 | livingtm | abrotman: the readme that comes with it does |
| 03:08.01 | buu | Gnea: Oh goody. I'm not running anything intel though. |
| 03:08.06 | Gnea | buu: impossible, messages do not occur after hardlocking (that's why it's a hardlock) |
| 03:08.16 | buu | Gnea: Er, yes, after |
| 03:08.22 | abrotman | livingtm: hrm .. i see |
| 03:08.24 | AnonymousHive | could someone please come to #flood and help me diagnose my xserver problem? |
| 03:08.39 | dvs | !tell AnonymousHive about repeat |
| 03:08.47 | eegore | the user was created for mythtv |
| 03:08.49 | vicarious | don't |
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| 03:08.49 | abrotman | livingtm: hrm .. i thought one of them was r/w |
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| 03:08.53 | Gnea | buu: that's not the point - intel made the interrupt driver that's embedded within the motherboard itself, it just got relicensed to via or nvidia or whoever made the rest of the components |
| 03:08.56 | livingtm | abrotman: thats a bummer.. I wanted to be able to have my cake and eat it to :-) |
| 03:08.56 | kspath | shadow98: I personally went through the entire repository by hand A-Z and Z-A to make myself a list of things I thought I should use or bookmark for later review. Why do you have trouble with some VERY meager output from a simple command that was spoon fed to you? |
| 03:08.58 | buu | Gnea: The spurious interrupt bit was right before I got "eth0: link up" |
| 03:09.09 | abrotman | livingtm: most of us use vfat when we want to do what you're trying to do |
| 03:09.16 | AnonymousHive | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 03:09.16 | AnonymousHive | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.20 | eegore | as well as the directory |
| 03:09.21 | Gnea | buu: do you have any spare pci slots? |
| 03:09.22 | livingtm | abrotman: for those times when i need to be booted in win |
| 03:09.27 | buu | Gnea: Nope! |
| 03:09.29 | livingtm | abrotman: Vfat? |
| 03:09.29 | AnonymousHive | hmm... should be -4 not -3 |
| 03:09.32 | Dydier | excuse someone Integrated Active Directory with LDAP ? |
| 03:09.34 | abrotman | livingtm: fat32 |
| 03:09.45 | Gnea | buu: oh man... how many are filled? |
| 03:09.47 | AnonymousHive | Sorry for the flood, but I screwed up the tail command |
| 03:09.52 | buu | Gnea: 6 =] |
| 03:09.54 | livingtm | abrotman: ah okay |
| 03:09.55 | AnonymousHive | Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found |
| 03:09.55 | AnonymousHive | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 03:09.56 | AnonymousHive | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.10 | Gnea | AnonymousHive: DO NOT PASET HERE |
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| 03:10.11 | jshriver | greetings everyone :) |
| 03:10.15 | livingtm | abrotman: so i can make my /home for instance a vfat partition, then mount it from both OSs? |
| 03:10.22 | abrotman | livingtm: yu can .. but i wouldn't |
| 03:10.24 | dvs | Gnea: join the club |
| 03:10.33 | dvs | Not the ignore part ;-) |
| 03:10.36 | livingtm | abrotman: what are the complications |
| 03:10.41 | Gnea | buu: how many of them are nics? |
| 03:10.44 | abrotman | livingtm: fat32 sucks? :) |
| 03:10.50 | buu | Gnea: uno |
| 03:10.51 | jshriver | having a sound problem... I'm running gnome 2.0 and once I did a apt-get upgrade the volume control in the top right corner no longer can adjust volume.. but I can still hear sound and adjust it manually using setmixer from the CLI any ideas? |
| 03:11.00 | eegore | AnonymousHive: paste here: http://pastebin.com |
| 03:11.00 | AnonymousHive | Eh. Whatever. I give up. |
| 03:11.00 | Gnea | buu: what are the rest? |
| 03:11.06 | livingtm | abrotman: hehe granted.. is it a performance issue, or a driver stability issue? |
| 03:11.11 | buu | Gnea: sata controller cards |
| 03:11.17 | buu | Gnea: You've been missing my saga? |
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| 03:11.18 | AnonymousHive | eegore: How would I go about pasting when I can't start X? |
| 03:11.20 | dvs | eegore: But he doesn't have X running |
| 03:11.24 | Gnea | buu: oh oh, that WAS you |
| 03:11.35 | buu | yar |
| 03:11.44 | Gnea | buu: shit man, i had a feeling something like this might happen :) |
| 03:11.48 | eegore | then go to #flood |
| 03:11.49 | abrotman | livingtm: ask ##linux if they know of anything to r/w ext3 from win32 |
| 03:11.59 | AnonymousHive | eegore: I've been asking people to come to #flood to help, but no one has |
| 03:12.13 | buu | Gnea: You and your feelings =[ |
| 03:12.16 | eegore | what card are you using |
| 03:12.21 | AnonymousHive | eegore: me? |
| 03:12.24 | eegore | yes |
| 03:12.38 | AnonymousHive | nVidia geforce 5200+ |
| 03:12.45 | bouma | AnonymousHive: try gpm |
| 03:13.00 | AnonymousHive | bouma: gpm? |
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| 03:13.03 | bouma | AnonymousHive: gpm works on the console |
| 03:13.04 | eegore | what version, etch or sarge |
| 03:13.08 | Gnea | buu: yeah, everyone loves to stomp all over 'em - but anyways, were you able to find the right combination before to get the sata cards to work right? |
| 03:13.10 | AnonymousHive | eegore: etch |
| 03:13.23 | bouma | AnonymousHive: dunno bout the g and the p but i'll bet the m stands for mouse |
| 03:14.06 | buu | Gnea: They all work fine until I try to start the nic |
| 03:14.06 | eegore | dpkg: nvidia install |
| 03:14.06 | dpkg | nvidia-install is, like, a script written by Justin_ that will install the nvidia source debs and build them for you; not suitable for custom kernels (http://bouncybouncy.net/nvidia_install.sh). Also, try asking me about 'nvidia debs', 'nvidia howto', or install 'nvidia-kernel-src' and read '/usr/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian', or run lynx --source bouncybouncy.net/nvidia_install.sh | sh |
| 03:14.17 | Gnea | buu: no onboard nic? |
| 03:14.22 | eegore | there ya go |
| 03:14.30 | AnonymousHive | bouma: Ah, I see |
| 03:14.31 | Gnea | buu: what motherboard is that? |
| 03:14.39 | buu | 8kha+ |
| 03:14.46 | Gnea | yeah, who makes it? |
| 03:14.52 | buu | epox |
| 03:15.02 | bouma | AnonymousHive: you probably want something like, gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 |
| 03:15.02 | AnonymousHive | eegore: Ah. I guess I probably have to reinstall it now that I'm on Etch now, hmm? |
| 03:15.02 | Dydier | Has someone integrated Active Directory with LDAP as client?? |
| 03:15.05 | eegore | AnonymousHive: see that |
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| 03:15.07 | jshriver | anyone know why the volume control over debian won't let me change volume, or ideas where I can look |
| 03:15.11 | jshriver | sound works fine |
| 03:15.15 | bouma | AnonymousHive: then you can paste in the consol |
| 03:15.16 | AnonymousHive | reinstall my nvidia drivers* |
| 03:15.23 | Gnea | oh shit that does have a lot of pci slots heh |
| 03:15.27 | eegore | I used that script to get my 6600gt working |
| 03:15.43 | eegore | 1600x1200@85Hz |
| 03:15.44 | buu | Gnea: just six |
| 03:16.18 | Gnea | buu: 4 or 5 is the typical average |
| 03:16.24 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: okay, it's not detected |
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| 03:16.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: well, it's detected but it's detected as model 00 |
| 03:16.33 | buu | Gnea: Really? Oh well. |
| 03:16.34 | eegore | I did this after etch was installed |
| 03:16.43 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: saa7133[0]: subsystem: 1131:0000, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected] |
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| 03:17.06 | eegore | the only bitch about etch is that there is no support for K3B yet |
| 03:17.26 | SerajewelKS | eegore: backport |
| 03:17.28 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: not sure... google may know more, i only have a bt878 |
| 03:17.35 | abrotman | eegore: stop whining about that .. if you wanted stuff to work all the time .. you would have used Sarge |
| 03:17.36 | eegore | The QT libs are pending |
| 03:17.36 | Dydier | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.52 | SerajewelKS | eegore: i backported amarok, and it works pretty well |
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| 03:18.03 | eegore | Etch is the only one that supports my capture card |
| 03:18.26 | eegore | I needed the .12 kernel to get it working' |
| 03:18.51 | dvs | Good |
| 03:18.57 | abrotman | you could have installed an etch kernel on sarge |
| 03:19.12 | nima | is there any way to disconnect all users on ssh? it would be nice if i could stay connected, but not necessary |
| 03:19.17 | eegore | I could get hte sid version if I felt like living on the edge |
| 03:19.45 | nima | sid isnt very fun |
| 03:19.47 | eegore | the* |
| 03:19.58 | dvs | eegore: No, compiling one yourself is living on the edge. ;-) |
| 03:20.02 | buu | Gnea: There hsa to be some way to make this work |
| 03:20.10 | eegore | I am half tempted |
| 03:20.23 | livingtm | abrotman: fat32 gets the thumbs up.. as wel as using ndiswrapper with ntfs drivers... i think ill stick with fat32 for a bit |
| 03:20.24 | nima | dont go with sid, eegore |
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| 03:20.36 | eegore | Gcombust will not work with my ide dvd drive |
| 03:20.48 | seraph | eegore: could you make dpkg print the nvidia-install thing again? |
| 03:20.56 | Dydier | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.02 | seraph | When I tried to run links2 my computer went haywire |
| 03:21.03 | seraph | oopsies |
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| 03:21.28 | eegore | dpkg: nvidia install |
| 03:21.28 | dpkg | [nvidia-install] a script written by Justin_ that will install the nvidia source debs and build them for you; not suitable for custom kernels (http://bouncybouncy.net/nvidia_install.sh). Also, try asking me about 'nvidia debs', 'nvidia howto', or install 'nvidia-kernel-src' and read '/usr/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian', or run lynx --source bouncybouncy.net/nvidia_install.sh | sh |
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| 03:21.54 | abrotman | livingtm: well .. captive-ntfs is another ball of wax .. it's like wine for your filesystem .. and given how well wine works .. i avoid it like naked pictures of my mom |
| 03:22.05 | nima | !tell seraph about nvidia-install |
| 03:22.06 | Gnea | buu: what's the chipset type on that? |
| 03:22.08 | livingtm | abrotman: heh |
| 03:22.24 | AnonymousHive | nima: Didn't work =P |
| 03:22.32 | eegore | for some strange reason , I have become very accustomed to installing the nvidia drivers in linux |
| 03:22.49 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: that's factoid material, right there |
| 03:22.54 | buu | Gnea: The mobo? |
| 03:22.59 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: be my guest |
| 03:23.01 | eegore | probably because I have 5 linux boots |
| 03:23.05 | Gnea | oh, KT266A |
| 03:23.11 | nima | shit, i was wondering why autocomplete didnt work :-P |
| 03:23.21 | nima | !tell AnonymousHive about nvidia-install |
| 03:23.34 | abrotman | !tell SerajewelKS about captiventfs |
| 03:23.36 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: captive is also <abrotman> livingtm: well .. captive-ntfs is another ball of wax .. it's like wine for your filesystem .. and given how well wine works .. i avoid it like naked pictures of my mom |
| 03:23.37 | dpkg | okay, SerajewelKS |
| 03:23.41 | cem_ | how do i start quake2, whats the command? |
| 03:23.52 | SerajewelKS | !captive |
| 03:23.52 | dpkg | i guess captive is The first kind of free if you squint NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/, or <abrotman> livingtm: well .. captive-ntfs is another ball of wax .. it's like wine for your filesystem .. and given how well wine works .. i avoid it like naked pictures of my mom |
| 03:23.55 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: sadly .. that goes with .. |
| 03:23.57 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 03:23.57 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 03:24.09 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: haha |
| 03:24.15 | abrotman | my poor mom |
| 03:24.20 | cem_ | how do i start quake2, whats the command? |
| 03:24.28 | nima | quake2? |
| 03:24.37 | abrotman | ./quake2 ? |
| 03:25.05 | johnblade | ./q2 ? |
| 03:25.06 | Gnea | buu: damn, 8meg manual |
| 03:25.18 | cem_ | nope |
| 03:25.24 | cem_ | nonoe of those worked |
| 03:25.25 | buu | Gnea: Yay pdfs! |
| 03:25.35 | bcc | will i have to reboot after upgrading kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 to kernel-image-2.6.8-16sarge1 on stable? |
| 03:26.00 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:26.03 | Gnea | yeah |
| 03:26.08 | dvs | bcc: Yup |
| 03:26.16 | liable | what the hell is that kernel? |
| 03:26.20 | bcc | i see. i guess i'll also need to re-create the initrd image? |
| 03:26.21 | nima | cem_, man quake2? |
| 03:26.21 | GPLGeek | just about the only time you have to reboot a linux system |
| 03:26.24 | johnblade | has anyone had problems with imagemagick on sarge converting images to tiff with group4 compression? for me it won't compress! |
| 03:26.26 | Dydier | ..excuse me........ Has someone integrated Active Directory with LDAP as client?? |
| 03:26.38 | bcc | i don't know. i just did an update and a bunch of packages have sarge1 or sarge2 in the version |
| 03:26.44 | abrotman | Dydier: maybe ask #ldap ? |
| 03:26.58 | Dydier | thanks |
| 03:27.13 | SerajewelKS | yeah this tuner card is bugging me. or rather, the lack of a linux driver for my chipset. |
| 03:27.15 | cem_ | nima, doesnt show me how to start |
| 03:27.40 | cheal | bcc: there's no package change. it's only the version of kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 being bumped |
| 03:27.46 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: you sure it didn't create a /dev/video0 when you loaded it? |
| 03:27.53 | SerajewelKS | liable: afaik, debian packages with "sarge" in them are sarge security updates |
| 03:27.55 | nima | i hate it when commands are differant from program names, and it becomes a pain in the ass to find out what the command is |
| 03:28.08 | eegore | what version, etch or sarge? |
| 03:28.14 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i don't have udev, so no =P |
| 03:28.34 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: holy hell... 'cat /dev/video0/' shows crap now |
| 03:28.44 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: s#/^#3 |
| 03:28.45 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.49 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: s/3/#/ |
| 03:28.54 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: put yourself in the video group, install and run tvtime, have fun ;) |
| 03:28.59 | bcc | cheal: so i won't have to reboot or re-create the initrd image? |
| 03:29.05 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: in video (for access to nvidia stuff) |
| 03:29.05 | liable | hrm, how could it be, its security.. |
| 03:29.18 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: oh yeah, nvm |
| 03:29.28 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it used to give me I/O error |
| 03:29.38 | eegore | I am still waiting for a decent .nsv browser simalar to streamtuner |
| 03:29.41 | cheal | bcc: you will, I'm just making you notice that you're not really "upgrading kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 to kernel-image-2.6.8-16sarge1" |
| 03:29.54 | Gnea | buu: hey, did you ever mess with the PCI settings in the bios? |
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| 03:30.04 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: tvtime supports changing to "special" channels (composite, s-video) right? |
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| 03:30.16 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: of course |
| 03:30.35 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: tvtime rocks, you can just right click and do everything with the mouse |
| 03:30.36 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: the only input source i can choose is 'default' |
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| 03:31.10 | buu | Gnea: I have been, but more or less at random |
| 03:31.16 | buu | Gnea: There's an "int1-4" setting |
| 03:31.25 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: uh, go to 'input configuration' and 'changae video source: ' |
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| 03:31.37 | abrotman | buu: kill the BIOS! |
| 03:31.56 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yes, as i said the only one i can pick is 'default' |
| 03:31.56 | Gnea | buu: did you make any changes? |
| 03:31.57 | buu | abrotman: With a rusty spoon/ |
| 03:33.35 | eegore | maybe I should write an app called G3b |
| 03:33.58 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: how would i change channels? |
| 03:34.06 | eegore | with advance cut and paste features that make gnome so great |
| 03:34.12 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: have it scan first |
| 03:34.26 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i don't care about that right now |
| 03:34.37 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: without it, you won't have channels to change |
| 03:34.38 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i just want to know if it's even talking to my card properly, seeing as i can't switch to composite input |
| 03:34.52 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: check ~/.tvtime/ |
| 03:34.55 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: ok, how do i change |
| 03:34.59 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: s/change/scan/ |
| 03:35.10 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: make sure it's talking to /dev/video0 |
| 03:35.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i can't "make sure" since the config file doesn't seem to list the device |
| 03:36.21 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it's at the bottom of tvtime.xml |
| 03:36.32 | Gnea | <option name="V4LDevice" value="/de |
| 03:36.37 | Gnea | oop |
| 03:36.39 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: all i have is <option name="V4LInput" value="0"/> |
| 03:36.47 | Gnea | <option name="V4LDevice" value="/dev/video0"/> |
| 03:36.50 | abrotman | i have a good idea .. let's all go to Gnea's house! |
| 03:36.52 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: as far as V4L goes anyway |
| 03:37.00 | dvs | YEAH! Road trip! |
| 03:37.04 | Gnea | lol |
| 03:37.16 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: ok, added that, still only lets me pick default |
| 03:37.23 | dvs | I havent swam the Pacific in a long time ;-) |
| 03:37.24 | Gnea | abrotman: sure, you can sleep on the floor :) |
| 03:37.47 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: does it write-back 0? |
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| 03:37.47 | abrotman | Gnea: you buy the beer! |
| 03:38.03 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: really, i have no idea what that means |
| 03:38.12 | Gnea | abrotman: send me some $ and i will |
| 03:38.18 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i'm a noob to v4l, and i want to be able to watch TV =) |
| 03:38.32 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: yeah, '0' doesn't sound right |
| 03:38.33 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: that's my experience level, unless you count a few hours googling my chipset |
| 03:38.44 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: '0' what |
| 03:38.54 | Gnea | yeah exactly lol |
| 03:38.56 | abrotman | Gnea: uhm .. i can bring it with me :) |
| 03:39.10 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: V4LInput != V4LDevice |
| 03:39.30 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: oh, right |
| 03:39.38 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: the kernel support has improved to the point where i can watch a black screen instead of "I/O error" |
| 03:39.42 | poh | apt-get dist-upgrade want to install only python-minimal and remove 304 programs. |
| 03:39.47 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: yeah, leave V4LInput at 0 |
| 03:40.00 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: impressive |
| 03:40.05 | poh | should I file some sort of bug report |
| 03:40.07 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah, sure |
| 03:40.22 | abrotman | poh: kde stuff? |
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| 03:40.49 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: suppose i could try mythtv |
| 03:40.49 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: look, you'll see a bunch of options listed, then you'll see a bunch of options bunched together at the bottom, right? |
| 03:41.07 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: listed where |
| 03:41.14 | poh | abrotman: yes, and gnome stuff |
| 03:41.21 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: do you want honey or do you want to throw some bee nests around? |
| 03:41.28 | abrotman | poh: probably more of the C++ stuff |
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| 03:41.35 | wwallace | hello to all |
| 03:41.41 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: tvtime.xml |
| 03:41.43 | eegore | I guess the hazard of testing it the hardware gets better supported and the apps have to play catchup |
| 03:41.51 | wwallace | where can i edit the colors of the command "ls"? |
| 03:41.52 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: shall i pastebin it? |
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| 03:41.57 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: yeah |
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| 03:42.10 | Dydier | dpkg: do you know if there is a package similar to "authconfig" from Red Hat??? |
| 03:42.24 | abrotman | holy shit .. how did it get to be 11pm ? |
| 03:42.32 | poh | wwallace: alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 03:42.41 | poh | abrotman: so this is a known issue then? |
| 03:42.45 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: http://pastebin.ca/36943 |
| 03:42.56 | abrotman | poh: it's the C++ abi transition |
| 03:42.56 | wwallace | poh where are the current colors? |
| 03:43.16 | poh | wwallace: oh, sorry I wasn't paying attention |
| 03:43.26 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: are there any CLI utilities to read /dev/video* device and print out interesting facts about them? e.g. features supported, etc. |
| 03:43.42 | poh | abrotman: thanks |
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| 03:44.16 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: v4l-info |
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| 03:44.30 | SerajewelKS | !find /v4l-info |
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| 03:44.39 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/v4l-info' (1): (/usr/bin/v4l-info) in x11/xawtv. |
| 03:45.06 | AnonymousHive | eegore: It's not my nvidia drivers |
| 03:45.14 | abrotman | info coreutils ls |
| 03:45.24 | AnonymousHive | I thought they were installed correctly before, I just reinstalled them, have all of the configuration correct, same error message |
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| 03:46.00 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: want me to pastebin that too? |
| 03:46.08 | metrix | does anyone know of a floppy disk that just has grub on it, that I could point towards a cd-rom to boot my kernel off of it? my cd-rom is not bootable on my laptop.. :/ |
| 03:46.11 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: sure |
| 03:46.26 | abrotman | wwallace: dircolors ? |
| 03:46.36 | Gnea | metrix: grub doesn't boot cdroms, but it will boot from a cdrom |
| 03:46.46 | abrotman | wwallace: echo $LS_COLORS |
| 03:46.57 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: http://pastebin.ca/36944 |
| 03:47.10 | Gnea | !sbm |
| 03:47.10 | dpkg | somebody said sbm was Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot from CD if your computer can't. |
| 03:47.12 | metrix | gnea: doh! do you know of another way to boot a cd-rom from a floppy? :/ |
| 03:47.13 | Gnea | metrix: ^^ |
| 03:47.23 | abrotman | !grub floppy |
| 03:47.26 | abrotman | !grub boot floppy |
| 03:47.28 | abrotman | bah |
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| 03:47.31 | abrotman | it's in there somewhere |
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| 03:47.43 | wwallace | abrotman: that will allow me to see the current color settings? |
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| 03:48.00 | abrotman | !grub floppy image |
| 03:48.00 | dpkg | i heard grub floppy image is ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | wwallace: that's what it seems |
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| 03:48.15 | wwallace | ok thank you |
| 03:48.16 | dvs | alpha? |
| 03:48.24 | abrotman | that's the name of the server |
| 03:48.31 | dvs | Ah... OK |
| 03:48.53 | nayyares | if any body have experience with yum, please let me know how can i install full KDE ? as i left KDE in my installation time and now i want it, TIA |
| 03:49.05 | abrotman | nayyares: in Suse? |
| 03:49.08 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: what card do you have again? |
| 03:49.17 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0) |
| 03:49.36 | nayyares | abrotman, if i tell you the disto, you will ask me to go there channel :) |
| 03:49.37 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: ok, what did the box say it was? |
| 03:49.58 | abrotman | nayyares: which is where you should ask .. since debian doesn't have yum |
| 03:50.03 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: not sure, that's in my closet back at home |
| 03:50.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it was red and white though =) |
| 03:50.14 | nayyares | abrotman, i am on fedora :) |
| 03:50.15 | Gnea | lol |
| 03:50.24 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: ok, sec :) |
| 03:50.25 | wwallace | abrotman: nothing came up? |
| 03:50.29 | abrotman | nayyares: so go ask #fedora |
| 03:50.30 | gnuandy | redhat have yum |
| 03:50.32 | abrotman | nayyares: or ##linux |
| 03:50.38 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: what's the Subsystem? |
| 03:50.43 | abrotman | wwallace: it does for me .. echo $LS_COLORS |
| 03:50.52 | bucky | nayyares: or #linpeople |
| 03:50.55 | wwallace | hmm |
| 03:50.57 | wwallace | su? |
| 03:51.03 | abrotman | no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01: |
| 03:51.05 | abrotman | crap like that |
| 03:51.07 | bucky | or #linuxhelp |
| 03:51.10 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: tell me how to locate that and i'll tell you, remember i'm a v4l newbie which explains why i bought a POS card like this |
| 03:51.11 | nayyares | abrotman, that is the reason i included "if any body have experince" |
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| 03:51.22 | abrotman | nayyares: and you're still in the wrong channel for that .. don't you think? |
| 03:51.26 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: lspci -v <-- it'll be the second line |
| 03:51.32 | abrotman | nayyares: why don't you ask #fedora ? |
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| 03:51.38 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: Subsystem: Philips Semiconductors: Unknown device 0000 |
| 03:51.49 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: that was the one detected by hotplug, anyway |
| 03:51.56 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: when's the last time you ran update-pciids? |
| 03:52.00 | nayyares | abrotman, they d'nt answer questions :) |
| 03:52.02 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: update-pciids |
| 03:52.04 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: umm probably... never |
| 03:52.05 | irc_first_time | exit |
| 03:52.09 | Gnea | :) |
| 03:52.11 | abrotman | nayyares: well .. you're not going to get any help here .. try ##linux |
| 03:52.12 | EvilSporkMan | nayyares: troutslap them then |
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| 03:52.40 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: done, and i did rmmod, now what just modprobe or do i tell hotplug to rescan? |
| 03:52.49 | nayyares | abrotman, thanks, #linpeople gave me answer |
| 03:53.00 | nayyares | evilbulgarian, heh, i wish i can :) |
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| 03:53.02 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: do lspci again and see if any of it changed |
| 03:53.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: nope |
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| 03:54.12 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: is it a KWORLD Studio TV Terminator? |
| 03:54.25 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: maybe, got a link to the box image? |
| 03:54.34 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: sec |
| 03:55.04 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: brb i need to purge something |
| 03:55.12 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: take some TP! |
| 03:55.21 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: *snort* |
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| 03:56.29 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: aren't you a college student? |
| 03:56.39 | grumpydog | This is not #unbuntu |
| 03:56.41 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: no, i am a college student |
| 03:56.45 | abrotman | they'll take anyone these days |
| 03:56.48 | EvilSporkMan | good thing i didn't install it on my box then |
| 03:56.53 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: ouch |
| 03:57.11 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: google Scott Wolchok and eat that remark kthx bye =P |
| 03:57.22 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: for what? |
| 03:57.30 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: I recommend a light supper |
| 03:57.33 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemdetails/O38-1062inset.jpg |
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| 03:57.52 | CoolWeb | can anyone help me installing wine? |
| 03:58.00 | Gnea | CoolWeb: nope |
| 03:58.00 | EvilSporkMan | CoolWeb: tried apt-get? |
| 03:58.00 | grumpydog | look ask in #unbuntu please not in #debian thanks |
| 03:58.09 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:58.15 | CoolWeb | i tried it gives me all those dependancies |
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| 03:58.22 | Gnea | !anyone |
| 03:58.22 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:58.23 | CoolWeb | and those |
| 03:58.25 | EvilSporkMan | grumpydog: it wasn't a question, just an amusing anecdote...the ubuntu install was on some chick's machine |
| 03:58.27 | CoolWeb | give more dependancies |
| 03:58.39 | abrotman | CoolWeb: are you running debian? |
| 03:58.43 | CoolWeb | yah |
| 03:59.10 | EvilSporkMan | CoolWeb: why don't you just let it automatically install the dependencies then? |
| 03:59.32 | CoolWeb | how.. it says... its uninstallable.... "libxxf86dga1" |
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| 04:00.14 | grumpydog | look I am not really interested #unbuntu is #unbuntu and #debian is #debian <eof\> |
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| 04:00.17 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: that might be it |
| 04:00.18 | buu | OH MY FUCKING GOD. |
| 04:00.32 | SerajewelKS | buu: where do you *think* jesus came from |
| 04:00.32 | Gnea | uh oh |
| 04:00.37 | duckdown | Hey all.. Where can I get the 'checkinstall' package for debian? I don't have it in my aptitude. Or is that an ubuntu only thing? |
| 04:00.42 | grumpydog | leave it out |
| 04:00.44 | buu | SerajewelKS: It's working! |
| 04:00.55 | Gnea | buu: heh, what happened? |
| 04:01.04 | CoolWeb | wine: |
| 04:01.04 | CoolWeb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:01.13 | EvilSporkMan | CoolWeb: what release are you running? |
| 04:01.21 | abrotman | buu: what fixed it ? |
| 04:01.29 | CoolWeb | i think the latest.... how do i check? |
| 04:01.42 | abrotman | !info checkinstall sarge |
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| 04:01.44 | dpkg | checkinstall: (installation tracker), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 04:02.05 | duckdown | Its not in my aptitude |
| 04:02.10 | duckdown | Im using a stock sources.list from Etch.. |
| 04:02.23 | abrotman | !info checkinstall etch |
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| 04:02.47 | EvilSporkMan | lots of stuff seems to have been unceremoniously booted from etch lately |
| 04:02.56 | abrotman | C++ abi change |
| 04:03.00 | CoolWeb | i am new... !info cant run... |
| 04:03.03 | abrotman | god .. we need a factoid for that |
| 04:03.07 | bucky | !info checkinstall testing |
| 04:03.08 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: i thought we did that several months ago |
| 04:03.24 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: still going on .. and i think there's another after this :) |
| 04:03.39 | grumpydog | EvilSporkMan, have you dent patches? |
| 04:03.41 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: kde is slow .. what do you expect :) |
| 04:03.44 | grumpydog | sent |
| 04:03.47 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: so... |
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| 04:04.11 | bucky | checkinstall exists in my etch |
| 04:04.25 | duckdown | what the hell :( |
| 04:04.26 | EvilSporkMan | grumpydog: no...it seems to me that an application _binary_ interface change wouldn't be expedited by source patches, but i don't really know anything about ABIs |
| 04:04.27 | SerajewelKS | bucky: probably remains from an upgrade from sarge |
| 04:04.29 | duckdown | I dont have it |
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| 04:04.38 | bucky | hmm.. that's it |
| 04:04.41 | duckdown | bucky How can I get it |
| 04:04.44 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: runs slowly or is developed slowly? |
| 04:04.48 | SerajewelKS | duckdown: backport from unstable |
| 04:04.50 | abrotman | bucky: it's not current |
| 04:04.52 | CoolWeb | easier way to find which version i am running? |
| 04:04.53 | grumpydog | girls, s/send/patches or stop complianing please. |
| 04:04.55 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: both? |
| 04:05.04 | duckdown | !backport |
| 04:05.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 04:05.07 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: not on my athlon 64 ;) |
| 04:05.12 | abrotman | grumpydog: did you submit all your patches? |
| 04:05.22 | duckdown | !simple sid backport |
| 04:05.23 | dpkg | simple sid backport is, like, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
| 04:05.25 | CoolWeb | !info |
| 04:05.30 | abrotman | duckdown: /msg dpkg poop |
| 04:05.34 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: ping |
| 04:05.37 | abrotman | well . not poop per se .. |
| 04:05.39 | Gnea | grumpydog: what do girls have to do with anything? |
| 04:05.42 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: pong |
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| 04:05.45 | CoolWeb | !info checkinstall |
| 04:05.46 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: =D |
| 04:05.47 | dpkg | checkinstall: (installation tracker), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 04:05.48 | duckdown | How can I get a sid src |
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| 04:05.50 | Gnea | :) |
| 04:05.54 | abrotman | i don't know .. grumpydog just keeps trying to cause trouble afaict |
| 04:05.57 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: so yeah, uhm |
| 04:06.07 | CoolWeb | !info checkinstall sarge |
| 04:06.09 | dpkg | checkinstall: (installation tracker), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 04:06.18 | CoolWeb | :S |
| 04:06.57 | EvilSporkMan | so porting to the new ABI is more than just a recompile? O_o |
| 04:07.07 | CoolWeb | i want to install MPLAB and i cant install Wine..... |
| 04:07.08 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: did you go to 2.6.15 yet? |
| 04:07.23 | odla | duckdown: add a sid src to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:07.29 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: afaik .. just a recompile .. i think there's a d-d-a announce about it |
| 04:07.30 | buu | abrotman: Mother fucking cunt. |
| 04:07.35 | abrotman | buu: i am not! |
| 04:07.38 | buu | It crashed again =[ |
| 04:07.52 | abrotman | buu: and the IRQs seem sorted out? |
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| 04:07.58 | EvilSporkMan | second silly question: does that mean linux in general supports pulling classes out of shared libs? I had a rude reminder that one can't do that from windoze dlls |
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| 04:08.41 | grumpydog | abrotman, pkgsc ah you are a 31337 bsd user, Do not criticise what you do not understand. |
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| 04:08.48 | EvilSporkMan | abrotman: so what we're really saying is it takes months for kdelibs to get to the front of the queue on the buildds? |
| 04:08.54 | abrotman | Gnea: obvious tard |
| 04:08.59 | buu | abrotman: I was changing stuff to reserved. |
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| 04:09.02 | CoolWeb | how to install this?????/ libxxf86dga1 |
| 04:09.06 | buu | abrotman: It ran for a while |
| 04:09.09 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: not in etch |
| 04:09.13 | abrotman | grumpydog: i can't even figure out what you're talking about .. |
| 04:09.13 | buu | abrotman: Which seems extremely odd. |
| 04:09.25 | abrotman | grumpydog: and my comprehension skills are pretty damn good |
| 04:09.29 | livingtm | anyone know if kernel 2.6.x supports Intel Centrino Duo (dual core) |
| 04:09.31 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: oh you and that bloody etch*^%#(@$%(#@$)( |
| 04:09.33 | bucky | !irritate grumpydog |
| 04:09.33 | dpkg | grumpydog: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my mepis werkz ????? |
| 04:09.48 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: well i'm sure as heck not going unstable |
| 04:09.48 | abrotman | buu: it crashed the same way ? |
| 04:09.50 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: erm, 2.6.12 is the highest there? |
| 04:10.06 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: according to apt-cache search linux-image |
| 04:10.11 | buu | abrotman: Yeah |
| 04:10.14 | Gnea | ok |
| 04:10.16 | grumpydog | lol bucky |
| 04:10.20 | bucky | hehe |
| 04:10.21 | odla | SerajewelKS: you could get 2.6.15 from bpo |
| 04:10.27 | abrotman | !tell grumpydog about lol |
| 04:10.37 | duckdown | odla should I trail the deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian line with 'unstable main contrib non-free' or 'sid main contrib non-free' |
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| 04:10.40 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: try this: modprobe -r saa7134 && modprobe saa7134 card=80 |
| 04:10.48 | odla | duckdown: either |
| 04:10.52 | abrotman | buu: that sucks .. seemingly it wasn't an IRQ issue .. the question remains .. what is the issue |
| 04:11.01 | odla | duckdown: sid = unstable |
| 04:11.18 | abrotman | !why is checkinstall not in testing |
| 04:11.18 | dpkg | checkinstall is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=checkinstall |
| 04:11.19 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: dmesg still says unknown/generic |
| 04:11.32 | buu | abrotman: I have no idea what else I can test. |
| 04:11.32 | duckdown | odla ahh, cool.. thanks |
| 04:11.41 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: what about v4l-info |
| 04:11.46 | abrotman | duckdown: what about using stow instead ? |
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| 04:12.02 | duckdown | abrotman Not sure what that is? |
| 04:12.03 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it's only showing the 'camera' and 'default' interfaces, it should show others |
| 04:12.05 | grumpydog | abrotman, I do not neeed dpkg bot to tell me anything. I do and can use google for info dickhead. |
| 04:12.14 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: 'diff' says fmt.pixelformat changed, nothing else |
| 04:12.17 | grumpydog | =) |
| 04:12.20 | abrotman | grumpydog: and google teaches you how to talk like a moron? |
| 04:12.24 | duckdown | lol |
| 04:12.26 | fooz | abrotman, DICKHEAD! DICKHEAD! |
| 04:12.37 | abrotman | !info stow etch |
| 04:12.43 | dpkg | stow: (Organiser for /usr/local/ hierarchy), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.3-2.1 (etch), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 320 kB |
| 04:12.43 | duckdown | :/ |
| 04:13.04 | EvilSporkMan | lollerskates! |
| 04:13.08 | fooz | man, Eclipse is sure pretty, but it's also sure useless. or i don't understand how to use it :D |
| 04:13.12 | grumpydog | clarity is good google me |
| 04:13.14 | SerajewelKS | damn, amarok is a CPU hog |
| 04:13.20 | grumpydog | not dkpg |
| 04:13.33 | Kurtism | hair in the mouth sucks |
| 04:13.34 | EvilSporkMan | SerajewelKS: that's what the k stands for ;) |
| 04:13.34 | grumpydog | lol |
| 04:13.34 | abrotman | !tell grumpydog about lol |
| 04:13.34 | SerajewelKS | EvilSporkMan: heh |
| 04:14.05 | grumpydog | abrotmam dkpg is ignoring you =) |
| 04:14.12 | abrotman | !tell grumpydog about lol |
| 04:14.14 | abrotman | not at all |
| 04:14.24 | grumpydog | heh |
| 04:14.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i might try a for loop |
| 04:14.39 | duckdown | What the heck.. I added the unstable line and it updates OK, but I still have no checkinstall? |
| 04:14.55 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: what was the id you said before again? |
| 04:15.18 | buu | abrotman: I crashed again =[ |
| 04:15.24 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: [xxxx:xxxx] |
| 04:15.34 | CoolWeb | help!!! |
| 04:15.36 | abrotman | buu: what if you don't do the last card/array? |
| 04:15.43 | buu | hrm |
| 04:15.44 | grumpydog | abrotman, dkpg has ignored you. |
| 04:15.49 | buu | Interesting idea. |
| 04:15.49 | odla | duckdown: apt-get source package |
| 04:15.51 | grumpydog | ) |
| 04:15.57 | abrotman | !tell grumpydog about funrolloops |
| 04:15.59 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can recover a partition that got lost after writing over the MBR??? |
| 04:16.10 | livingtm | can you chown a directory on a fat32 partition? |
| 04:16.15 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: 0000:01:07.0 0480: 1131:7133 (rev d0) |
| 04:16.25 | odla | shad0w1e: reinstall a boot loader? |
| 04:16.25 | Gnea | CoolWeb: apt-get update, see if it's there |
| 04:16.29 | buu | abrotman: Can you look at: http://sial.org/pbot/15457, it's the dmesg output right before it went over. |
| 04:16.38 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: do you mean the partition table? |
| 04:16.48 | shad0w1e | I only wrote over the first 446 bytes using dd |
| 04:16.49 | EvilSporkMan | odla: that won't help; shad0w1e needs to rebuild his partition table |
| 04:16.54 | duckdown | odla- great, thanks man |
| 04:17.00 | shad0w1e | so I dont know why it got killed! |
| 04:17.02 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: modprobe -r saa7134 && modprobe saa7134 tuner=17 |
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| 04:17.10 | odla | duckdown: np |
| 04:17.37 | CoolWeb | Gnea: I get that i have to install not installble libxxf86dga1 |
| 04:17.39 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: dmesg says some extra stuff, but otherwise still the same old black screen |
| 04:17.57 | grumpydog | abrotman, dpkg is replying zero config good luck you asre being ignored and and dpkg will not spam me, |
| 04:17.58 | abrotman | buu: i think you have too much money :) |
| 04:17.59 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: diff on v4l-info shows the same line |
| 04:18.10 | abrotman | yay .. i've been ignored |
| 04:18.11 | Gnea | CoolWeb: did you try http://debian.org yet? |
| 04:18.26 | buu | abrotman: Heh, why/ |
| 04:18.26 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: :/ |
| 04:18.26 | abrotman | buu: because grumpydog is a gentoo troll |
| 04:18.28 | CoolWeb | yes, but their packages list wont work |
| 04:18.38 | shad0w1e | EvilSporkMan, how do I rebuild my partition table? gpart doesnt seem to be working... |
| 04:18.42 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yup |
| 04:18.55 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: item 1 is stop using the computer except from a boot disk |
| 04:19.04 | grumpydog | abrotman, WTF DEBIAN IS BETTER THAN GENTOO. =) |
| 04:19.13 | abrotman | buu: sdj:<6>ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.3[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5 |
| 04:19.13 | abrotman | PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:11.3, from 0 to 5 |
| 04:19.16 | abrotman | buu: what are those |
| 04:19.18 | odla | grumpydog: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 |
| 04:19.23 | shad0w1e | EvilSporkMan, how's a KNOPPIX Live CD? |
| 04:19.28 | shad0w1e | that's what I'm on now |
| 04:19.36 | grumpydog | odla, no gentoo please |
| 04:19.38 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: peachy |
| 04:19.55 | goll | !gentoosmite grumpydog |
| 04:19.58 | shad0w1e | what's a better live CD? and what should I try? |
| 04:20.08 | grumpydog | lmao |
| 04:20.13 | goll | :P |
| 04:20.15 | abrotman | what a freaking loser |
| 04:20.16 | duckdown | HAHAHA |
| 04:20.18 | duckdown | thats funny |
| 04:20.24 | buu | abrotman: Um. No idea/ |
| 04:20.25 | EvilSporkMan | shad0w1e: google recover partition table...i can't remember what the appropriate util is |
| 04:20.26 | abrotman | buu: those lines cannot be normal :) |
| 04:20.31 | buu | abrotman: Yeah, they looked bad. |
| 04:20.39 | abrotman | buu: is there a usb drive plugged in ? |
| 04:20.40 | Gnea | shad0w1e: kanotix is pretty good |
| 04:20.43 | shad0w1e | EvilSporkMan, I tried gpart. I just wanted to know if there are others |
| 04:20.44 | buu | Nope! |
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| 04:20.58 | grumpydog | thst was quite peachy |
| 04:20.59 | abrotman | buu: sdj is the 9th drive |
| 04:21.07 | buu | It is indeed |
| 04:21.15 | buu | Btw, I just tried again with 9 devices and died. |
| 04:21.28 | CoolWeb | Gnea any ideas? |
| 04:21.39 | shad0w1e | what's wrong with Knoppix? |
| 04:21.42 | Gnea | CoolWeb: google |
| 04:21.45 | abrotman | buu: i would expect it to .. since i just saw this :) |
| 04:21.46 | grumpydog | goll goo shout :)) |
| 04:21.56 | livingtm | im running a debian install on my laptop. I created a vfat partition and attempted to mount it as /home. When it attempts to make the first user, it fails attempting to chown the users folder |
| 04:21.59 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i might have found it |
| 04:22.00 | buu | abrotman: Heh. Why? |
| 04:22.15 | livingtm | and im attempting ot stop using the word attempting |
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| 04:22.20 | abrotman | buu: because the ninth drive is the apparnetly the problem |
| 04:22.23 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: okay it works now at about .5 fps |
| 04:22.23 | buu | oh, really |
| 04:22.25 | buu | Good point |
| 04:22.25 | bucky | livingtm: vfat does not support permissions.. |
| 04:22.41 | livingtm | bucky so therefor vfat wotn suffice as /home |
| 04:22.42 | abrotman | buu: you still have way too much money! |
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| 04:22.55 | buu | abrotman: It wasn't that expensive =[ |
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| 04:23.04 | abrotman | buu: and why does it find the usb devices right after it tries to mess with that drive |
| 04:23.10 | buu | Because god hates me. |
| 04:23.23 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah i can get it almost working.. the picture is really choppy though |
| 04:23.25 | bucky | !win livingtm |
| 04:23.25 | dpkg | Congratulations, livingtm! You have won the US presidency! |
| 04:23.27 | abrotman | buu: not god .. maybe alan cox :) |
| 04:23.37 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: check the coax |
| 04:23.46 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i'm using composite input |
| 04:23.47 | buu | abrotman: Hey, so far so good with 8 drives. |
| 04:23.49 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: from SNES |
| 04:23.52 | Gnea | ah ok |
| 04:23.53 | Gnea | :D |
| 04:23.56 | grumpydog | haha where did that comen from? |
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| 04:24.44 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it does one frame update, then borks the next update (skewed, colors off) then no more updates |
| 04:25.21 | bucky | livingtm: the only thing vfat is good for is a storage partition between linux and windows so that you can transfer files back and forth IMHO |
| 04:25.36 | buu | abrotman: What does it look like the problem is? |
| 04:25.39 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: does it scan? |
| 04:25.40 | abrotman | bucky: and that's what he wants |
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| 04:25.49 | bucky | ic |
| 04:25.54 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: actually... if it's composite then it won't |
| 04:26.05 | bucky | btw captive-ntfs works pretty good for me |
| 04:26.06 | livingtm | bucky: Thats what im doing.. i was hoping to get as close as possible to making my home folder the same as my documents |
| 04:26.20 | grumpydog | Bucky pppoa, no point in going there |
| 04:26.24 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: this is with card=17 and card=18 |
| 04:26.26 | abrotman | buu: can you paste your /proc/interrupts too |
| 04:26.29 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: muck with the input configuration, there are probably some simple settings there |
| 04:26.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: both work, but composite is broken |
| 04:26.36 | bucky | grumpydog: ha! right |
| 04:26.38 | abrotman | bucky: /msg dpkg captive-ntfs |
| 04:26.46 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: haha |
| 04:26.51 | buu | abrotman: Is there pastebot in here? |
| 04:26.52 | abrotman | !tell gnuandy about root |
| 04:26.56 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: you can use my pillow fort to hide |
| 04:26.56 | abrotman | !Paste |
| 04:26.57 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 04:27.09 | abrotman | buu: if you use #lfood .. tell me first |
| 04:27.14 | shad0w1e | !KNOPPIX |
| 04:27.15 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 04:27.16 | abrotman | you know .. #flood |
| 04:27.25 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: where is the debian v4l cardlist |
| 04:27.30 | grumpydog | bucky you can load pppoa easily and connecy over etho |
| 04:27.50 | buu | abrotman: I hate flood. |
| 04:27.58 | shad0w1e | !flood |
| 04:27.58 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 04:27.59 | buu | abrotman: I meant something that announced the paste url |
| 04:27.59 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: as long as you get a difference of signal when you turn the snes on/off then you should be good from there |
| 04:28.00 | abrotman | buu: ok .. use paster |
| 04:28.11 | abrotman | buu: well .. pastebot used to . then GNAA abused it |
| 04:28.11 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i looked in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/ |
| 04:28.12 | bucky | grumpydog: that's a good tip |
| 04:28.19 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah i don't have kernel sources |
| 04:28.19 | buu | abrotman: Oh, bummer |
| 04:28.27 | bucky | livingtm: ctl-alt-F1 into a console, get root, telinit 1 |
| 04:28.41 | livingtm | bucky: whats that do |
| 04:28.54 | bucky | livingtm: mv /home /share |
| 04:28.55 | buu | abrotman: erxz.com/pb/423 |
| 04:29.03 | bucky | livingtm: mkdir /home |
| 04:29.11 | abrotman | buu: how many paste sites do you know? |
| 04:29.20 | buu | abrotman: At least 7 |
| 04:29.20 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it knows when i turn the snes off, when i turn it on i just get a white screen |
| 04:29.20 | odla | has there been something up with the marillat repository for the last few days? i've been trying to pull in w32codecs to no avail...it gets to about 84% and fails |
| 04:29.23 | bucky | livingtm: and edit fstab to reflect the change |
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| 04:29.31 | abrotman | buu: why is everything on irq5 ? |
| 04:29.50 | buu | abrotman: Because linux likes irq5? |
| 04:29.50 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: ok, then leave the config file alone and mess with the input configuration while it's running - just right click on the screen |
| 04:29.54 | grumpydog | bucky it is easy to load info over eth0 using a router and a windows box |
| 04:29.59 | livingtm | buckey so home is linked to /share/home? |
| 04:30.03 | abrotman | buu: but i thought you specified IRQs ? |
| 04:30.07 | buu | abrotman: Hrm. I think I did. |
| 04:30.22 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: the gui/osd is also very unresponsive when on composite input |
| 04:30.22 | buu | Let me go figure out what they look like |
| 04:30.29 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it doesn't bring up a menu in the middle with a right click? |
| 04:30.45 | bucky | grumpydog: i like compiling mmpe for the kernel and using poptop to server microsoft RAS over ethernet |
| 04:30.59 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: it does, but it's very unresponsive |
| 04:31.35 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: okay, with PAL the screen flashes and is generally fscked up, but it's responsive and i can make out action |
| 04:31.58 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: but we're in the states, should be NTSC |
| 04:32.05 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: right, with NTSC it sucks |
| 04:32.11 | Gnea | heh |
| 04:32.43 | grumpydog | livingtm, it is /home/livingtm and config /usr/sbin/livingtm |
| 04:33.36 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i dunno... just keep messing with it till it works i guess |
| 04:34.51 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah something is really wrong here |
| 04:35.07 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: there's not a lot i can mess with |
| 04:35.28 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: with PAL i get a crappy picture, with NTSC i get nothing |
| 04:35.37 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: nothing remotely usable, at least |
| 04:35.50 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: how many standards can you choose from? |
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| 04:36.40 | grumpydog | If you are planning on sudi putting somethitjing in /home chmod 777 or 775 you are just asking for trouble. |
| 04:36.43 | beardy | !tell shad0w1e -about testdisk |
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| 04:37.21 | buu | abrotman: The count down has started |
| 04:37.31 | abrotman | buu: what are we counting towards? |
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| 04:38.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: quite a few |
| 04:38.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: when the SNES is off or unplugged, it's very responsive |
| 04:38.49 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: nod |
| 04:39.06 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: do you have any other gaming consoles to test with? |
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| 04:39.29 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: this one works, trust me |
| 04:39.47 | Gnea | k |
| 04:40.21 | Flimzy | I'm trying to dump an MPEG TS stream to a fifo... then playing the fifo in vlc. However, the output is much garbled. If I dump the TS stream directly to a file, then play the file in VLC, it works fine. What's going on? Is the process dumping the TS stream into the fifo doing too much buffering or something? |
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| 04:40.25 | grumpydog | http://www.ultimatebootcd.com none warez boots windowsa and Linux and a good tool to have]## |
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| 04:40.43 | grumpydog | ok I might go to bed. |
| 04:40.49 | abrotman | please |
| 04:40.55 | Gnea | sleep sounds good |
| 04:40.58 | Gnea | *YAWN* |
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| 04:41.10 | abrotman | Gnea: uhm .. i think you've got a few hours yet :) |
| 04:41.30 | buu | abrotman: That was the count down until I crash. Again. |
| 04:41.32 | shad0w1e | beardy, THANK YOU!! |
| 04:41.33 | grumpydog | bucky take care bro |
| 04:41.34 | Gnea | abrotman: i've got an early appointment :) |
| 04:41.36 | abrotman | buu: and it did ? |
| 04:41.39 | grumpydog | nn |
| 04:41.41 | abrotman | Gnea: work tomorrow? |
| 04:41.47 | bucky | grumpydog: nite |
| 04:41.52 | Gnea | abrotman: school meeting |
| 04:41.57 | abrotman | Gnea: school? |
| 04:42.00 | abrotman | Gnea: like .. PTA ? |
| 04:42.01 | Gnea | school. |
| 04:42.04 | Gnea | hahaha no |
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| 04:42.10 | Gnea | uni |
| 04:42.11 | abrotman | Gnea: you're going for your masters? |
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| 04:42.19 | Gnea | abrotman: BA |
| 04:42.25 | abrotman | could someone kill him while he sleeps? |
| 04:42.27 | buu | abrotman: Yes, roughly 5 seconds after I said that. |
| 04:42.31 | abrotman | Gnea: i thought you had one of those? |
| 04:42.38 | Gnea | i wish |
| 04:42.40 | abrotman | buu: holy crap . and the IRQs look different? |
| 04:42.48 | abrotman | Gnea: but aren't you like 53? |
| 04:42.51 | buu | Um, I don't thinks o |
| 04:43.04 | grumpydog | bucky lil bro anyone takes the piss and bullies you I will bully back. Take Care =) |
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| 04:43.36 | abrotman | i'd like to see that |
| 04:43.47 | abrotman | Gnea: 46? |
| 04:44.00 | Gnea | who the hell's he talking to? |
| 04:44.14 | abrotman | Gnea: did you quit college to take a job? |
| 04:44.16 | buu | abrotman: I set irqs 10,11,12,14,15 to reserved, then manually set int pin 1 to irq 10 , 2 to 11, 3 to 12 and 4 to 14 |
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| 04:44.51 | abrotman | buu: what if you boot acpi=off ? |
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| 04:45.09 | worthy | can someone tell me how to add enlightenment to the sessions menu please? |
| 04:45.14 | buu | abrotman: Haven't tried that one yet. |
| 04:45.17 | buu | Let me crash again and I'll try it. |
| 04:45.19 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: yeah i can get the initial frame but then it never updates, and lags like heck |
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| 04:45.41 | abrotman | buu: i'm just not sure what else to tell you .. i mean .. the next step is to start asking the debian-kernel guys |
| 04:45.50 | Gnea | abrotman: i'm not even 35 yet and just going back to school after working for a decade |
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| 04:46.12 | De_Mon | worthy update-menus ? |
| 04:46.13 | abrotman | Gnea: if i go back . it won't be for anything related to my job :) |
| 04:46.38 | worthy | just type update-menus at the command prompt? |
| 04:46.42 | Gnea | abrotman: it ain't the same as it used to be :) |
| 04:46.44 | weenix | is there a software which likes bittorrent under debian? |
| 04:46.52 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i don't know.. :/ |
| 04:46.53 | abrotman | weenix: many |
| 04:46.55 | De_Mon | worthy probably |
| 04:46.59 | worthy | ok |
| 04:47.02 | De_Mon | weenix huh? |
| 04:47.09 | Flimzy | weenix: My CD burning software loves bittorrent :P |
| 04:47.11 | abrotman | Gnea: no .. i mean .. i like my job and all . but i almost was a history major .. so i'd go back for that |
| 04:47.11 | weenix | abrotman: which one is the best you think? |
| 04:47.16 | dutch | One problem... I keep having problems when trying to install Java when I build the .deb package from .bin - cp: cannot create regular file "/usr/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb': Permission denied. Which sucks ... any clue what I'm doing wrong? |
| 04:47.18 | abrotman | weenix: the one that works! :) |
| 04:47.28 | Gnea | abrotman: nothing wrong with that |
| 04:47.39 | weenix | abrotman: like what? |
| 04:47.46 | De_Mon | weenix I use bittornado usually |
| 04:47.49 | Gnea | dutch: do it as root |
| 04:47.57 | abrotman | bittornado is fine |
| 04:48.01 | dutch | Alright, thanks Gnea |
| 04:48.03 | De_Mon | weenix how many choices do you think there are?? try them all and use the one you like most. |
| 04:48.08 | worthy | it returned no comment De_Mon i guess that's an ok sign. I'll see the next time I reboot |
| 04:48.19 | weenix | De_Mon: nice advices |
| 04:48.47 | De_Mon | worthy I don't use X a lot, but logging off and back on or restarting X is all you need to do |
| 04:49.08 | worthy | type startX at the prompt? |
| 04:49.56 | worthy | what do you use De_Mon |
| 04:50.22 | abrotman | buu: died again? |
| 04:50.23 | De_Mon | worthy cli -- update-menus should have run when you installed the package btw |
| 04:50.44 | worthy | it didn't :-( |
| 04:50.52 | weenix | could i ask anything out of debian here |
| 04:51.26 | buu | abrotman: Yep =[ |
| 04:51.45 | buu | abrotman: But 8 disks works fine |
| 04:51.48 | bucky | weenix we have a guarantee... we answer all questions or you get the cost of our service refunded |
| 04:52.07 | abrotman | buu: afaict .. it's something with the IRQs and that last two drives ... |
| 04:52.16 | Xenguy | bucky: :-) |
| 04:52.25 | buu | abrotman: Well, um, ok |
| 04:52.27 | bucky | i love putting all my hard drives on auto select |
| 04:52.31 | abrotman | buu: it's just 500GB you'll be missing |
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| 04:52.44 | buu | =[ |
| 04:52.47 | weenix | is there a site support us to search a specific irc channel? |
| 04:52.49 | buu | I paid good money for that 500g |
| 04:52.49 | abrotman | oh wait .. no .. that'd be 1TB wouldn't it? |
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| 04:53.06 | buu | well, like 750 |
| 04:53.12 | abrotman | buu: shoot an email to the guys at debian-kernel@lists.debian.org .. see if they have any ideas |
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| 04:53.22 | abrotman | buu: or ask if they can point you somewhere |
| 04:53.23 | De_Mon | enlightenment is a wm isnt it |
| 04:53.33 | abrotman | no |
| 04:53.35 | buu | abrotman: Yeah, I'll do that |
| 04:53.40 | abrotman | buu: sorry i can't help more |
| 04:53.50 | abrotman | buu: you always have complex problems! |
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| 04:54.00 | buu | abrotman: Well, yeah, I don't ask for help with the easy ones =/ |
| 04:54.05 | abrotman | heh |
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| 04:54.32 | Xenguy | !enter |
| 04:54.32 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 04:54.36 | ootput | did anyone recently install mplayer on sid from marillat's repo? I'm getting libpolyp0 as an uninstallable dependency |
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| 04:55.26 | De_Mon | abrotman eh? enlightment isn't a wm? |
| 04:55.43 | abrotman | i think it has a WM .. but i think E is a DE |
| 04:55.47 | abrotman | Gnea: doesn't it ? |
| 04:56.02 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: hmm, lots of card=xx produce the same results |
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| 04:56.41 | sanxiyn | Isn't Enlightenment WM? |
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| 04:56.54 | abrotman | i'm waiting for the E authority .. Gnea |
| 04:56.57 | Gnea | bed. |
| 04:57.00 | dragoon_ | whats the easiest way to get ati working in debian ? |
| 04:57.02 | sanxiyn | As in, using Enlightenment WM together with GNOME |
| 04:57.09 | abrotman | !ati drivers |
| 04:57.09 | dpkg | If you wish to use ATI's closed-source binary fglrx driver, then follow the instructions on http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian-official/fglrx-driver.html - do NOT try to convert the drivers from ATI's website yourself with Alien. These drivers support Radeon 8500 or higher cards. |
| 04:57.22 | Gnea | sanxiyn: at one time, that was alright, but it's really inefficient |
| 04:57.24 | De_Mon | abrotman theres an enlightenment-theme but enlightenment describes itself as a WM |
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| 04:57.41 | Gnea | De_Mon: because that's what it is |
| 04:57.43 | Gnea | anyhow |
| 04:57.47 | Gnea | sleep time |
| 04:59.10 | CoolWeb | still cant install wine.... i am gonna kill myself |
| 04:59.29 | tictac | hmm |
| 04:59.30 | Agrajag- | why would "ssh -o PasswordAuthentication=no host" ask me for a password? am i missing something here? |
| 04:59.34 | tictac | thats a good reason. |
| 04:59.34 | bucky | CoolWeb: which version of debian? |
| 04:59.42 | CoolWeb | 3 |
| 04:59.47 | CoolWeb | Tell me the way i find it |
| 04:59.51 | abrotman | !version |
| 04:59.51 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 04:59.51 | De_Mon | worthy are you trying to set enlightenment as your default wm? |
| 04:59.57 | bucky | CoolWeb: sarge or etch |
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| 05:00.02 | CoolWeb | sarge |
| 05:00.07 | bucky | hmm... |
| 05:00.09 | CoolWeb | !version |
| 05:00.10 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 05:00.17 | abrotman | CoolWeb: how did you try to install it ? |
| 05:00.17 | worthy | i'd like to take a look at it before i decide to make it my default |
| 05:00.27 | CoolWeb | through apt-get |
| 05:00.38 | abrotman | did you run the config util ? |
| 05:00.40 | CoolWeb | and Synpatic |
| 05:01.37 | CoolWeb | it wont even let me isntall it says.... wine: depends: libxxf86dga1 is not installable |
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| 05:02.00 | abrotman | what the fuck is that ? |
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| 05:02.35 | CoolWeb | i found libxxf86dga1 on Ubuntu;s website.... its a thing taht lets othe progra,ms use x |
| 05:02.44 | De_Mon | worthy type dpkg -L enlightenment|grep bin and look for a command with the word config or start in it |
| 05:02.59 | worthy | wow |
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| 05:03.01 | worthy | way cool |
| 05:03.04 | threat | hey, I get a IRQ 254 NOBODY CARED error on bootup, wtf! |
| 05:03.27 | threat | or was it IRQ 246, *shrugs* |
| 05:03.32 | threat | any ideas? |
| 05:03.37 | abrotman | google ? |
| 05:03.53 | rob | unstable having bzip2 problems? |
| 05:04.01 | CoolWeb | so any ideas? |
| 05:04.20 | odla | CoolWeb: are you running stable (sarge)? |
| 05:04.37 | CoolWeb | i guess... :(.... tell me how to know if i am...... |
| 05:04.45 | CoolWeb | !version |
| 05:04.45 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 05:04.46 | sanxiyn | CoolWeb: Are you trying to downgrade to stable? |
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| 05:04.55 | CoolWeb | no... |
| 05:05.02 | odla | CoolWeb: well type apt-cache search libxxf86 |
| 05:05.03 | CoolWeb | i trying to get Wine installed |
| 05:05.09 | unicron | does anyone know how to find the version of alsa |
| 05:05.14 | De_Mon | threat sata? |
| 05:05.14 | sanxiyn | CoolWeb: apt-get install wine? |
| 05:05.16 | odla | CoolWeb: do you see libxxf86dga-1 available? |
| 05:05.20 | sanxiyn | Should be installable on stable. |
| 05:05.24 | threat | De_Mon, yes, SiS SATA |
| 05:05.30 | odla | CoolWeb: cause it's available on stable |
| 05:05.32 | worthy | no config file |
| 05:05.32 | CoolWeb | xlibs-static-dev - X Window System client library development files |
| 05:05.33 | threat | De_Mon, its libsata that complains |
| 05:05.39 | De_Mon | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0407.2/0275.html |
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| 05:05.45 | CoolWeb | so i am not running stable one? |
| 05:05.46 | De_Mon | threat google is your friend |
| 05:05.53 | threat | De_Mon, I have not had this error before, it was running fine about a month ago |
| 05:05.56 | odla | CoolWeb: sounds like your running testing or sid |
| 05:06.00 | threat | De_Mon, so are you :) |
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| 05:06.21 | threat | I will invite you over for a BBQ and beers after I have fixed it :P |
| 05:06.24 | CoolWeb | ok... so i guess i have to format the drive and reinstall? |
| 05:06.36 | odla | CoolWeb: or wait till it arrives in testing |
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| 05:06.58 | CoolWeb | how long would it take to come to testing? |
| 05:07.38 | odla | CoolWeb: hard to no exactly |
| 05:07.41 | odla | know/no |
| 05:07.52 | sanxiyn | As far as I can tell, wine and libxxf86dga1 *is* in testing currently. |
| 05:07.56 | bucky | CoolWeb: you could upgrade to etch and use the sources.list line from winehq.org |
| 05:08.04 | cem_ | whats the command to see how much freespace you have in your current directory? |
| 05:08.11 | odla | !info libxxf86dga1 etch |
| 05:08.13 | shad0w1e | cem_, du -sh ./ |
| 05:08.15 | sanxiyn | And stable wine doesn't depend on libxxf86dga1 (before the split) |
| 05:08.18 | dpkg | libxxf86dga1: (X Direct Graphics Access extension library), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 (etch), Packaged size: 185 kB, Installed size: 360 kB |
| 05:08.45 | sanxiyn | CoolWeb: It sounds like you're trying to install testing wine to stable debian system. |
| 05:08.45 | CoolWeb | so... ... i upragde to etch? |
| 05:08.46 | cem_ | shad0w1e, whats the ./ for? |
| 05:08.47 | odla | CoolWeb: apt-get install libxxf86dga1 |
| 05:08.48 | threat | De_Mon, aaww what about beer and BBQ ? :) |
| 05:09.15 | odla | CoolWeb: where did you get wine from? backports.org or something? |
| 05:09.16 | biffhero | cem_ that tells du to look at the current directory (current partition) only. I like to add the x option to it, as well. |
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| 05:09.34 | CoolWeb | no.. from win'es website |
| 05:09.53 | odla | CoolWeb: why not use debian's wine? |
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| 05:10.02 | sanxiyn | odla: Perhaps because it's outdated... |
| 05:10.06 | sanxiyn | wine's pretty fast moving. |
| 05:10.10 | cem_ | cool thanks |
| 05:10.16 | CoolWeb | that wine wont run the application i want.. Mplab.... |
| 05:10.21 | sanxiyn | Yup. |
| 05:10.22 | odla | wine's backported though |
| 05:10.30 | sanxiyn | CoolWeb: Well, the best bet is compile wine yourself :-) |
| 05:10.34 | sanxiyn | It works good with wine. |
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| 05:10.55 | CoolWeb | i tried to get the compilation done... it took hell of a time |
| 05:10.57 | sanxiyn | Also it's the only way to get very specific version of wine, if your app requires that version. |
| 05:10.58 | CoolWeb | i cancled it |
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| 05:11.16 | ali4728 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.25 | bucky | CoolWeb: the wine from winehq's repository for debian won't run on sarge... it says unstable but it will run on etch |
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| 05:12.43 | threat | so can anybody help me with my sata porblem? |
| 05:12.52 | CoolWeb | is etch older? |
| 05:12.54 | biffhero | Is anyone able to 'apt-get install bzip2' on testing/unstable ? |
| 05:13.03 | CoolWeb | or newer? |
| 05:13.04 | threat | CoolWeb, etch is unstable |
| 05:13.08 | threat | oops testing |
| 05:13.15 | threat | etch is testing :) |
| 05:13.23 | CoolWeb | So its a newer version right? |
| 05:13.30 | threat | yes, but not stable |
| 05:13.45 | CoolWeb | how unstable? |
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| 05:13.48 | sanxiyn | CoolWeb: yes it's newer version |
| 05:14.10 | CoolWeb | will i get alot of problems with etch??? |
| 05:14.16 | xsdg | biffhero: works for me under SID...err... bah :o) |
| 05:14.26 | xsdg | biffhero: you can go ahead and file a bug report; fails for me too |
| 05:14.33 | xsdg | error in control file: `Index' value missing for type HTML at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 647, <IN> line 13. |
| 05:14.49 | sanxiyn | biffhero: Works for me bzip2 1.0.2-11. |
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| 05:15.05 | bucky | CoolWeb: i haven't had any problems with etch... if you upgrade to etch use this to install wine |
| 05:15.05 | bucky | http://linuxblogger.dyndns.org/weblog/index.php?/archives/79-Getting-Windows-only-websites-to-work-with-Linux.html |
| 05:15.24 | biffhero | sanxiyn: bzip2 --version gives me... Version 1.0.3 |
| 05:15.30 | xsdg | biffhero: I'm trying to install 1.0.3-1 |
| 05:15.35 | sanxiyn | Ah okay. |
| 05:15.44 | sanxiyn | Not in my mirror yet. |
| 05:16.04 | biffhero | sanxiyn: and apt-get update ; apt-get -u upgrade gave me errors with bzip2... as follows: error in control file: `Index' value missing for type HTML at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 641, <IN> line 13. |
| 05:16.14 | biffhero | xsdg: yes, 1.0.3-1 here, too |
| 05:16.18 | CoolWeb | k bucky.... how do i updgarde to etch? |
| 05:16.24 | sanxiyn | biffhero: Have a look at /usr/share/doc-base/bzip2 |
| 05:16.35 | xsdg | sanxiyn: it's a packaging problem |
| 05:16.45 | sanxiyn | biffhero: Format: html line should have Index: ... next. |
| 05:16.53 | sanxiyn | xsdg: I know. |
| 05:17.01 | xsdg | aah; /me nods |
| 05:17.18 | xsdg | is there a modern equivalent to netstat that will properly deal with >80 char displays? (namely, that will not truncate IPv6 addresses) |
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| 05:17.40 | biffhero | sanxiyn: looking at others now, thx |
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| 05:18.27 | bucky | CoolWeb: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak and edit it so that every instance of sarge or stable says testing then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:19.26 | biffhero | sanxiyn: ok, some other problems abound, working around them now |
| 05:19.33 | CoolWeb | thx |
| 05:20.15 | biffhero | sanxiyn: also had to mkdir /usr/share/doc/bzip2/html/ as root to fix another error. sounds like a known bug? |
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| 05:20.50 | sanxiyn | biffhero: No. File one. |
| 05:20.56 | biffhero | k, thx |
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| 05:21.11 | sanxiyn | biffhero: Oops wait a min |
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| 05:21.19 | sanxiyn | biffhero: 348266. |
| 05:21.23 | sanxiyn | !dbugs 348266 |
| 05:21.26 | dpkg | DONE:#348266:S[bzip2] upgrading fails; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:18:06 UTC |
| 05:21.36 | sanxiyn | Fixed in 1.0.3-2. |
| 05:22.09 | biffhero | Original report - #348266: upgrading fails ... |
| 05:22.10 | sanxiyn | biffhero: Sorry don't fine a bug. |
| 05:22.11 | biffhero | thx |
| 05:22.23 | xsdg | 1.0.3-2 is in incoming, if you're impatient like me |
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| 05:23.09 | CoolWeb | thanks guys.... for help |
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| 05:23.18 | CoolWeb | gotta go to sleep |
| 05:23.20 | CoolWeb | bye |
| 05:23.25 | CoolWeb | thanks again |
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| 05:27.02 | uailaoi | y?can't find smiley to use in Evolution mail. where are they? |
| 05:28.46 | SlayerXP | uailaoi: I think I spent for everyone else here when I say, Evolution is not MSN, nor is it AOL. |
| 05:28.50 | threat | Hey, when I compile a kernel then boot up on it, It cant find devfs, I cannot find any devfs options in the kernel, wtf is going on ? |
| 05:29.11 | threat | SlayerXP, spent = speak? |
| 05:29.14 | SlayerXP | I speak for, I mean |
| 05:29.18 | threat | :) |
| 05:29.47 | uailaoi | SlayerXP: too cryptic. don't know wth u r talking about. |
| 05:30.32 | uailaoi | SlayerXP: wth has that got to do with smiley in Evolution? |
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| 05:31.34 | uailaoi | SlayerXP: ? |
| 05:32.14 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Use English locale? |
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| 05:32.34 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Click Tools, choose Settings, choose Compose Preference. |
| 05:32.42 | sanxiyn | Composer |
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| 05:33.02 | dragoon_ | whats the easiest way to get ati working in debian |
| 05:33.04 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: ok, let me go and try it out. |
| 05:33.11 | SlayerXP | uailaoi: sorry, you have just failed your Internet Pilots Licence Test. Please return your AOL cd using the free-post address provided, and do not attempt to use the Internet again unsupervised. |
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| 05:34.01 | uailaoi | SlayerXP: stfu. making one unintelligible statement after another. |
| 05:34.28 | SlayerXP | uailaoi: you can't make me. *thptptptptptptptp* *taunt* |
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| 05:34.39 | sanxiyn | SlayerXP: What's wrong with telling users the functionality already present? |
| 05:35.30 | sanxiyn | (FSVO functionality) |
| 05:35.36 | SlayerXP | sandbot: anything that encourages the use of anything other than ACSII text within emails needs exterminating. |
| 05:35.54 | sanxiyn | SlayerXP: Apparently, Evolution devs don't agree with you. |
| 05:36.11 | SlayerXP | sanxiyn: they aren't required to, more's the pity. |
| 05:36.49 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: there is no 'setting' in 'tool', only a 'pilot setting'. and for that i have to install the 'gnome pilot tools', is this correct? |
| 05:36.56 | sanxiyn | Eh |
| 05:37.10 | sanxiyn | it must be we're looking at different evolution... |
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| 05:37.40 | Agrajag- | im trying to allow www-data ssh access to my box using key authentication. it just doens't want to work as www-data though. other users work fine. what could be stopping this working? |
| 05:37.44 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: mine is 2.2.3 |
| 05:38.11 | worthy | Enlightenment didn't show up in my sessions menu with the command update-menus |
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| 05:41.25 | SimonRaven | "damn, my Cup Drawer is broken!" |
| 05:41.51 | SimonRaven | "isn't it that thing that says 'CD'?" |
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| 05:42.10 | SimonRaven | "i press 'CD' and the drawer pops open" |
| 05:42.20 | uailaoi | SlayerXP: which dir is the openoffice dictionary in? |
| 05:42.25 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Perhaps Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > General > Automatically insert smiley images ? |
| 05:42.30 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: You see that? |
| 05:42.41 | SlayerXP | uailaoi: i give up, which? |
| 05:42.50 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: let me check. |
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| 05:43.40 | myst-dragon | I've got KDE 3.4.3 running on testing, and I can't figure out how it deals with .Xresources: if I load emacs, for example, from a terminal, my .Xresources are honored. If I load emacs from the K menu, .Xresources is ignored. Any pointers? |
| 05:44.33 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Also you can do manual insert in a composer window, with Insert > Smiley submenu. |
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| 05:47.15 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: i tried the manual. there is a column of smileys but none of them can be selected. |
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| 05:47.32 | sanxiyn | hm |
| 05:47.36 | sanxiyn | no idea, good luck |
| 05:49.49 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: thks, anyway. i'll check up in somewhere else. |
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| 05:57.17 | uailaoi | where is the dir for the openoffice2.0 dictionary? |
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| 05:58.48 | jshriver | I have writable = yes on a share, but I can't write to it? suggestions? |
| 06:00.14 | MrDez | is it browseable = yes |
| 06:00.19 | MrDez | and is it public |
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| 06:01.03 | jshriver | I didnt do browseable but I can view it .. and it's public |
| 06:02.11 | worthy | can someone help me get enlightenment in my sessions menu please? |
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| 06:04.46 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: i got the smiley. i should first select 'HTML' for compose preference. |
| 06:04.59 | sanxiyn | oh |
| 06:05.01 | sanxiyn | makes sense |
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| 06:05.38 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: r u familiar with openoffice? |
| 06:05.48 | sanxiyn | not really |
| 06:05.50 | shad0w2e | beardy, what were those other programs you suggested? |
| 06:05.51 | sanxiyn | just ask question |
| 06:06.00 | TMontana | is there a way to mount a box that you ssh to and have an account on the box? |
| 06:06.33 | shad0w2e | As it turns out, my partition table seems to be correct, but the data is incorrect in my primary partition... are there any good partition "fix" utilities, or recover software? |
| 06:06.35 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: actually i had, twice. let me do it the third time. in which dir is the dictionary? |
| 06:06.46 | sanxiyn | dictionary? |
| 06:07.01 | uailaoi | yeh, dict for the writer. |
| 06:07.05 | sanxiyn | no idea |
| 06:07.14 | uailaoi | no fun. |
| 06:07.42 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Why? |
| 06:07.53 | myst-dragon | TMontana, if you mean have sshd running on the box and login remotely into your account, yes |
| 06:08.03 | uailaoi | because no answer. |
| 06:08.18 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: I mean, why do you want to know in which dir is the dictionary |
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| 06:08.53 | TMontana | what do i have to do to mount that directory |
| 06:08.55 | TMontana | ? |
| 06:09.03 | SlayerXP | I miss p.d.o :( |
| 06:09.16 | sanxiyn | we all do... |
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| 06:09.26 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: that is better. u c, i already have a dictionary of 600KB, a very comprehensive one. i would like to use it for openoffice. |
| 06:09.45 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: I think I found it. It's under /usr/share/myspell |
| 06:09.54 | sanxiyn | Apparently, in its own format. |
| 06:10.01 | uailaoi | let me check. |
| 06:10.25 | TMontana | myst-dragon, how would i set up a mount point? |
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| 06:10.39 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: Hm, the default one is already 680K big... |
| 06:11.03 | sanxiyn | Doesn't OOo provide way to add words to "personal wordlist"? |
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| 06:11.49 | myst-dragon | TMontana, what do you mean exactly by "mount point" for ssh? I've never heard that for an ssh session. |
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| 06:13.00 | TMontana | like i have a folder on another server that i can log into using shh from my current location is there a way to mount my home directory from there on the box i'm currently on. |
| 06:13.33 | RgE | TMontana: shfs |
| 06:14.03 | SerajewelKS | TMontana: or sshfs |
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| 06:14.45 | hidura | who can help me with a ftp server |
| 06:14.49 | hidura | ?? |
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| 06:15.47 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: r u referring to the file dicOOo.sxw as the default dict? mine is only 100K+. |
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| 06:16.08 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: en_US.dic |
| 06:16.14 | sanxiyn | (looks like a wordlist) |
| 06:16.42 | hidura | who can help me with a ftp server?? |
| 06:16.45 | sanxiyn | uailaoi: You can use "Are you" instead of "r u" by the way. |
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| 06:17.00 | SlayerXP | hidura: i give up, who? |
| 06:17.12 | myst-dragon | hidura, ask Google |
| 06:17.17 | hidura | ok |
| 06:17.52 | uailaoi | sanxiyn: i think in my case, the dict hasn't been installed. i will have to use my own, referrinf to it in the format specified. |
| 06:18.13 | sanxiyn | no idea |
| 06:18.16 | TMontana | Is sshfs exclusive to debian? |
| 06:18.22 | sanxiyn | TMontana: No |
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| 06:21.04 | RgE | TMontana: no, but there are packages, shfs-source -utils, sshfs |
| 06:21.35 | peterS | hmmm, cheal quoted me earlier tonight, from 3 months ago |
| 06:21.43 | peterS | who knew anyone paid attention? |
| 06:22.03 | TMontana | alright thanks |
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| 06:22.57 | sanxiyn | peterS: 3 months ago? heh |
| 06:23.13 | SerajewelKS | how would i specify an exact kernel revision when 'apt-get source linux-image-...' |
| 06:23.21 | peterS | sanxiyn: yeah, that's when mwilson was ... asked to leave ... for apparently the last time. I said at the time it should be an annual holiday in here |
| 06:23.25 | TMontana | I only have to be installed on the box that is mounting correct?? |
| 06:23.25 | SerajewelKS | i did 'apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-1-686' but i got the sources to 2.6.15 |
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| 06:23.51 | SerajewelKS | TMontana: yes, otherwise you might as well use nfs |
| 06:23.59 | peterS | SerajewelKS: no idea why you'd get the wrong kernel sources if you said it like that |
| 06:24.14 | peterS | SerajewelKS: however, if you said linux-image-2.6 or similar, it could happen |
| 06:24.34 | SerajewelKS | peterS: chris@pyromaniacs:~/deb/2.6.12$ apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 06:24.38 | SerajewelKS | Get: 1 http://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main linux-2.6 2.6.15-2 (dsc) [7792B] |
| 06:24.41 | sanxiyn | peterS: Hm, linux-image-* source package doesn't have kernel source I think. |
| 06:24.51 | SerajewelKS | sanxiyn: it sure does |
| 06:24.52 | sanxiyn | Get source package of linux-source-* |
| 06:25.01 | peterS | sanxiyn: you mean the *binary* package of that |
| 06:25.02 | RgE | TMontana: yup |
| 06:25.14 | peterS | SerajewelKS: the linux kernel is kind of a special case, you should get the *binary* package named *-source-* |
| 06:25.28 | SerajewelKS | peterS: O_o |
| 06:26.06 | SerajewelKS | E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 06:26.16 | SerajewelKS | yeah ignore me |
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| 06:26.40 | myst-dragon | SerajewelKS, try linux-source-2.6.12 if you want source |
| 06:26.47 | peterS | SerajewelKS: the source package isn't named quite that, I forget what it is named, but 'apt-cache search linux-source-2.6' should find it |
| 06:27.03 | SerajewelKS | peterS: ^^^ |
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| 06:30.28 | SerajewelKS | where would i get kernel 2.6.15 on etch without rolling my own |
| 06:30.32 | jshriver | Is it possible to run a windows screensaver under linux via wine? |
| 06:30.40 | SerajewelKS | or installing from sid |
| 06:30.44 | jshriver | I really like Marine Aquarium |
| 06:30.57 | SerajewelKS | jshriver: possible? probably. desirable? ... |
| 06:31.02 | buu | SerajewelKS: backports.org? |
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| 06:32.36 | SerajewelKS | buu: hmm okay |
| 06:32.44 | peterS | SerajewelKS: installing a kernel as new as that one already implies that you're willing to risk major instability. as such, I'd just grab the sid one |
| 06:33.01 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i think i've figured out that 2.6.12 doesn't support this card, from the CARDLIST.saa713? in the sources |
| 06:33.06 | sud0 | The subversion support in Emacs, vc-svn.el, seems to have disappeared in a recent dist-upgrade. Anyone know what happened? since packages.d.o is down I can't find it. |
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| 06:33.22 | jm_ | find what? |
| 06:33.46 | sud0 | can't find vc-svn.el |
| 06:33.52 | SerajewelKS | peterS: yeah, p.d.o is down and stuff |
| 06:33.58 | sanxiyn | !find vc-svn.el |
| 06:34.04 | jm_ | there are other methods for finding files -- /msg dpkg search |
| 06:34.05 | peterS | SerajewelKS: true. rather inconvenient, that. |
| 06:34.18 | sud0 | jm_, thanks |
| 06:34.23 | SerajewelKS | peterS: although i could just look for the repository root.. where is that? |
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| 06:34.37 | peterS | jm_: there are, but quite often I want to check what version of something is in etch. my machine runs sid. as such, it's inconvenient to set up apt-file or apt-cache to look at etch as well |
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| 06:34.53 | Burninator | i'm trying to learn how to run my own mail server for a domain that i own, but i'm getting lost trying to configure exim. i can't even get it so i can receive any messages... does anyone have any pointers? |
| 06:35.01 | peterS | SerajewelKS: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/ for linux-image-* |
| 06:35.33 | jm_ | peterS: I wasn't replying to your and SerajewelKS conversation, it was related to sud0's problem -- I also miss p.d.o for this particular purpose |
| 06:35.44 | peterS | jm_: oh. |
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| 06:35.53 | sud0 | jm_, I tried that but nothing happened. How do I find out what commands dpkg supports? |
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| 06:36.06 | jm_ | !+search |
| 06:36.06 | dpkg | well, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
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| 06:36.12 | jm_ | sud0: ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 06:36.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'vc-svn.el' (2): (/usr/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/vc-svn.el.gz) in editors/emacs-snapshot-el ;; (/usr/share/emacs/22.0.50/lisp/vc-svn.elc) in editors/emacs-snapshot-common. |
| 06:36.23 | SerajewelKS | peterS: thanks |
| 06:36.47 | sud0 | jm_, thanks |
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| 06:39.15 | peterS | sanxiyn: yeah, once upon a time we shipped vc-svn.el with subversion, but it is maintained by the emacs people now |
| 06:39.34 | Cool_MAN | oiii anjing- - anjing |
| 06:39.40 | SerajewelKS | peterS: this kernel wants initrd tools or yaird, i assume i want initrd tools because of yaird breakage? |
| 06:40.03 | sanxiyn | peterS: Ah now it's part of mainline? |
| 06:40.08 | peterS | SerajewelKS: initrd-tools doesn't work well with really new kernels. I think initramfs-tools is the current choice |
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| 06:40.20 | SerajewelKS | peterS: yeah that's what i meant |
| 06:40.23 | peterS | sanxiyn: well, as you saw from the package search, it's shipped by emacs22 (aka emacs-snapshot) but not earlier |
| 06:40.33 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: yaird should be fixed by now. |
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| 06:40.48 | SerajewelKS | sanxiyn: in etch? |
| 06:40.54 | peterS | sanxiyn: we do ship psvn.el, but I haven't used it (or vc-svn.el) so I don't know what either elisp program does |
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| 06:41.04 | Kupal[] | does thunderbird have a bounce feature for junk mail? |
| 06:41.06 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: not sure |
| 06:41.13 | sanxiyn | !info yaird etch |
| 06:41.19 | dpkg | yaird: (Yet Another mkInitRD), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.0.11-12 (etch), Packaged size: 166 kB, Installed size: 584 kB |
| 06:41.26 | SerajewelKS | the hell? initramfs-tools depends on udev? |
| 06:41.31 | jm_ | heh |
| 06:41.39 | jair_11 | guys if I have an dynamic IP could I still have a postfix server email in debian 3.1? |
| 06:41.45 | SerajewelKS | and busybox? |
| 06:41.45 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: Well, testing never had broken yaird I think. |
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| 06:42.03 | sanxiyn | SerajewelKS: Broken one immediately got RC bug, and 0.0.11-12 is before the bug. |
| 06:42.03 | Kupal[] | nm found it. |
| 06:42.04 | peterS | jair_11: I do it. it does require some setup with a dynamic DNS service, to be useful |
| 06:42.10 | sanxiyn | eh no |
| 06:42.26 | SerajewelKS | sanxiyn: i think i will be using the backports kernel... afaik it doesn't require all this crap |
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| 06:43.06 | jair_11 | peterS, I have already the use of the ddclient with a web site that always have the ip address updated do not remmeber the name now |
| 06:43.08 | sanxiyn | IIRC it was kernel/yaird combination problem... |
| 06:43.09 | jair_11 | let me check |
| 06:43.23 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: what DNS service do you have |
| 06:43.26 | sanxiyn | Anyway I don't know the details. |
| 06:43.28 | peterS | jair_11: no matter, the important thing is that without a permanent DNS name for your mail server, it's not very useful |
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| 06:43.39 | jair_11 | peterrooney, zoneedit |
| 06:43.49 | jair_11 | peterS, zoneedit |
| 06:43.53 | peterS | jair_11: whether it's a static or dynamic IP isn't really important, so long as you have a DDNS service of some sort that makes it *effectively* static |
| 06:43.53 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: i hacked up a dhclient script that updates with zoneedit |
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| 06:44.19 | cheloo | where can i find the gui toll for running services onmy box ? |
| 06:44.20 | buu | peterS: Solve all my problems =[ |
| 06:44.20 | Kupal[] | ciao peterS ! |
| 06:44.21 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: using it with postfix, it's currently the MX for several domains |
| 06:44.31 | cheloo | i know there is one :) |
| 06:44.33 | jair_11 | SerajewelKS, nice |
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| 06:44.49 | peterS | jair_11: I didn't do anything too special to my postfix config. I mean I had to do a few things but mainly to configure outgoing mail, which has to go through an authenticated smarthost for me |
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| 06:45.03 | jair_11 | peterS, SerajewelKS ok I am planning install postfix right now. |
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| 06:45.33 | tmontana | If i Mount using sshfs and i have no write permission is that on my end or the server that i'm connecting to |
| 06:45.41 | sanxiyn | pugscode.org is down... hm |
| 06:45.50 | buu | peterS: When I raid 10 drives and network, my machine hardlocks. |
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| 06:46.01 | peterS | buu: you need a proper raiding party |
| 06:46.02 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.03 | jair_11 | peterS, SerajewelKS ok guys normally I have another #postfix channel I know but looks like all the people there are sleeping already |
| 06:46.03 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: the script sends me an email on two accounts with the new IP and output of `dig` on the domain so i know if it worked (zoneedit's servers seem to have trouble at the same time i get a new IP) |
| 06:46.04 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.06 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.12 | buu | peterS: Yes, let's assemble one |
| 06:46.14 | SerajewelKS | !ops Soroki |
| 06:46.14 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Soroki |
| 06:46.16 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.18 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.20 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 06:46.24 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.25 | jm_ | I vote to ban you instead |
| 06:46.26 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.28 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.31 | jair_11 | SerajewelKS, that is an script can I see it? |
| 06:46.32 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.35 | APM500 | stop flooding |
| 06:46.36 | jair_11 | SerajewelKS, :) |
| 06:46.36 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.40 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.42 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.44 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.46 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.49 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: yeah after the tide goes out |
| 06:46.50 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.52 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.53 | SerajewelKS | !ops Soroki spam |
| 06:46.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Soroki spam |
| 06:46.54 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:46.58 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.00 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.02 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.04 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.06 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.08 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.10 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.14 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.15 | jair_11 | someone can stop this guy????? |
| 06:47.16 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.18 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.19 | liable | moron |
| 06:47.19 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.21 | tmontana | just ignore |
| 06:47.22 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.24 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.24 | APM500 | ugh, make it stop |
| 06:47.26 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.28 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.30 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.31 | peterS | jair_11: we can't |
| 06:47.32 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.34 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.36 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.37 | jair_11 | peterS, why not? |
| 06:47.38 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.40 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.42 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.43 | peterS | jair_11: even though there are quite a few #debian ops, sometimes they're all asleep or away |
| 06:47.44 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.46 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.50 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.53 | jair_11 | right |
| 06:47.54 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.56 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:47.56 | Kupal[] | what the fuck? |
| 06:47.58 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.00 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.02 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.02 | jair_11 | ok I will do the same to him |
| 06:48.04 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.04 | liable | hey, can you dos my site? :) |
| 06:48.06 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.08 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.10 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.12 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.14 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.16 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.18 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.20 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.22 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.24 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.26 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.26 | *** part/#debian kevinbenko (n=kevin@216.239.8.83) |
| 06:48.28 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.30 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.30 | jair_11 | Let's everybody pm Soroki with bunches of messages |
| 06:48.32 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.32 | APM500 | I'm having some installation problems, hoping someone can help me |
| 06:48.34 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.36 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.38 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.38 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: i doubt the bot will care |
| 06:48.40 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.42 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.44 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.46 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.47 | jair_11 | to make the machine explote or the connection stop |
| 06:48.48 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.49 | APM500 | just ignore Soroki |
| 06:48.50 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.52 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.54 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.56 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.57 | jair_11 | ohh it is a bot |
| 06:48.58 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:48.59 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.01 | jair_11 | I see |
| 06:49.02 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.04 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.06 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.07 | jair_11 | !soroki |
| 06:49.08 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.10 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.12 | Soroki | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.14 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.14 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.16 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.16 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.18 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.19 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.20 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.20 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.21 | sanxiyn | please |
| 06:49.22 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.22 | sanxiyn | stop |
| 06:49.23 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.24 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.25 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.26 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.27 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.27 | peterS | jair_11: flooding does not help anything |
| 06:49.28 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.29 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.30 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.31 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.32 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.33 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.34 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.35 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.36 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.37 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.38 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.39 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.40 | Soroki | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.41 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.42 | Soroki | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.43 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.43 | peterS | jair_11: YOU AREN'T HELPING |
| 06:49.44 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.45 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.46 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.47 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.48 | Soroki | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.49 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:49.50 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.52 | Soroki | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:49.53 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.01 | SerajewelKS | jair_11: STFU |
| 06:50.02 | APM500 | My install goes fine until the partition part comes up, it starts adding the file system and gets between 50-100% and hangs...any ideas? |
| 06:50.03 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.05 | jm_ | that happens when retards join forces |
| 06:50.06 | peterS | jair_11: STOP NOW |
| 06:50.07 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.11 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.13 | Eclipser | !ops jair_11 spamming |
| 06:50.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: jair_11 spamming |
| 06:50.14 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.14 | noiesmo | jair_11, aah for fucks sake stop it |
| 06:50.15 | jair_11 | !soroki stop |
| 06:50.23 | jair_11 | I see |
| 06:50.25 | liable | jesus christ |
| 06:50.25 | jair_11 | wow hahaha |
| 06:50.26 | jm_ | APM500: check other consoles for status etc. |
| 06:50.27 | jair_11 | I see |
| 06:50.29 | jair_11 | I make it worst haha sorry |
| 06:50.31 | jair_11 | I am sorry |
| 06:50.33 | jair_11 | I know I am sorry |
| 06:50.35 | Eclipser | ................ |
| 06:50.36 | APM500 | how do you access the console? |
| 06:50.37 | peterS | yes, you are making it worse. |
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| 06:50.50 | Kiowas | howdy |
| 06:50.51 | SerajewelKS | on the other hand, Soroki did stop |
| 06:50.56 | jm_ | alt-f1 alt-f2 ... or alt-lfet/right |
| 06:50.57 | jair_11 | I am not the one that make the mess I was trying to stop it now it stop :) |
| 06:51.02 | jair_11 | sorry |
| 06:51.09 | Kiowas | I bought a webcam recently and have no clue how to set it up on linux. can anyone help me? |
| 06:51.16 | Eclipser | jair_11, now how stupid is that |
| 06:51.23 | jair_11 | ok |
| 06:51.27 | peterS | jair_11: why did you think that adding your own flood would help? |
| 06:51.43 | jair_11 | I said couple of lines ago I am sorry |
| 06:51.44 | jair_11 | ok |
| 06:51.55 | jair_11 | let's focus on Debian :) |
| 06:52.04 | noiesmo | Kiowas, http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html check this out |
| 06:52.13 | Kiowas | thanks alot |
| 06:52.45 | tmontana | i'm mounting using sshfs on a server that i have an account and write permissions but when i mount it i have no wirte permissions |
| 06:52.47 | sud0 | peterS, so subversion stopped shipping vc-svn.el, and the prerelease Emacs 22 has started including it. But what about current Emacs 21 users? Do we have to install it manually until v22 is released? |
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| 06:53.18 | peterS | sud0: yeah basically. subversion upstream stopped shipping it, that's why we stopped |
| 06:53.30 | jair_11 | ok |
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| 06:53.32 | jair_11 | guys |
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| 06:54.20 | peterS | sud0: we could add it back in to the debian package but then we'd needlessly conflict with emacs-snapshot and future emacs packages, since two packages can't ship the same file without using certain annoying mechanisms |
| 06:54.23 | jair_11 | SerajewelKS, ok so you were telling me about the script you are using about the postfix |
| 06:54.48 | *** join/#debian stoned (i=bunghole@ip68-12-72-181.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 06:54.53 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:55.03 | APM500 | Anyone know of any tutorials or guides to create a secure debian sarge web server (production server) |
| 06:55.38 | Coke | APM500: It could be to easy and to obvious for anybody to have written a howto on the subject. |
| 06:55.41 | sud0 | peterS, ah thanks. It's a bit unfortunate the way it happened. It just stopped working one day after an update, and it wasn't at all clear why. |
| 06:55.52 | stoned | how do I report bugs in sid packages? |
| 06:55.53 | Soroki | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:55.59 | jair_11 | peterS, I have a dsl and my server is behing the router. What style of postfix should I get: * Postfix on a stand-alone Internet host * Postfix on a null client * Postfix on a local network * Postfix email firewall/gateway |
| 06:56.08 | peterS | sud0: yeah sorry about that, I'm not sure what the best course of action is. I believe this happened shortly *before* I got involved in svn maintainership (: |
| 06:56.22 | APM500 | well, all the tutorials I find say something like, "this is NOT ideal for production use" |
| 06:56.29 | tmontana | nevermind i got it |
| 06:56.37 | Coke | APM500: either you understand security and can make your Apache secure or you don't. Sort of. All depends on how secure you want it. Install Apache2 and add the SSL support, voila, pretty secure http server. |
| 06:56.43 | peterS | jair_11: you're on a standalone host, though if you're behind NAT you need to make sure that is set up correctly |
| 06:56.51 | jair_11 | I have a dynamic IP and I am using zoneedit with ddclient to update my ip address. |
| 06:56.53 | Bobert | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:56.57 | buu | Is there a faster way to fill up a disk other than cat /dev/zero ? |
| 06:57.14 | peterS | buu: cp /dev/zero /dummyfile should be as good as anything, really |
| 06:57.14 | jm_ | APM500: this is one -- http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ -- either way, please don't do it if you're not familiar with details |
| 06:57.21 | buu | peterS: Oh, cp? |
| 06:57.25 | peterS | buu: the disk speed is much more important than the speed of things like cp and /dev/zero |
| 06:57.25 | jair_11 | peterS, yes I have a NAT because my computer internal private ip is 192.168.x.x |
| 06:57.29 | Coke | APM500: the thing with SSL is that you need a CA-signed certificate or the browsers will complain. I guess you can say that is not "production" worthy because of that. |
| 06:57.42 | sud0 | peterS, I guess the easiest thing to do for now is download the latest vc-svn.el and stick it in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ until Emacs 22 goes gold. I'll blog it so at least others can google a solution; I imagine it would be a common problem. |
| 06:57.44 | peterS | jair_11: right, so you need to make sure your NAT router is forwarding incoming port 25 in to your computer |
| 06:57.52 | jm_ | APM500: ignore me, you said web server, not mail server |
| 06:57.53 | BobbyBB | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 06:57.53 | APM500 | Coke, would you say Apache2 is more secure than Apache1? |
| 06:58.01 | Coke | APM500: no, not really. |
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| 06:58.07 | noiesmo | BobbyBB, fuck off idiot |
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| 06:58.22 | jair_11 | peterS, perfect because that will be the smpt server |
| 06:58.27 | Coke | APM500: in time it will be though, because the code is well written and easier to maintain than the old code. |
| 06:58.31 | jair_11 | nice |
| 06:58.33 | peterS | sud0: yeah. I can't think of anything we can do with the debian packaging that would make this easier, aside from perhaps shipping a copy of the file in /usr/share/doc/subversion/examples/ or something. and I don't think I want to do that |
| 06:58.48 | dutch | How do I make /usr so that every user is allowed to edit and execute it? Including change it? |
| 06:59.13 | peterS | dutch: that doesn't strike me as a good idea at all - why do you want this? |
| 06:59.14 | noiesmo | dutch, i dont think you really wanna do that |
| 06:59.14 | Coke | APM500: if you go with Apache 1.3 you need the apache-ssl package with compiled-in support for SSL. |
| 06:59.31 | sud0 | peterS: well even if you added a note that mentions the above to README.Debian, it would be a big help. |
| 06:59.31 | peterS | dutch: there are probably other, better, ways to achieve what you want |
| 06:59.32 | deadcat | dutch: chmod =R 777 /usr |
| 06:59.40 | deadcat | dutch: i mean -R |
| 06:59.54 | peterS | sud0: I can do that. hmmm, do we have a README.Debian in subversion at the moment? |
| 07:00.03 | peterS | ah, yes we do. |
| 07:00.03 | APM500 | Well, basically....I've made a PHP website, but now I must create a dedicated server....everyone is saying that Debian is the best for Web Servers.... So i'm mainly just trying to find a good starting place after installing debian |
| 07:00.08 | dutch | What's -R 777? |
| 07:00.11 | dutch | Well I keep trying to run |
| 07:00.13 | dutch | g help. |
| 07:00.13 | dutch | <peterS> dutch: there are probably other, better, ways to achieve what you |
| 07:00.24 | dutch | Oops here. |
| 07:00.38 | *** join/#debian HermanDE (n=HermanDE@67-42-11-53.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 07:00.40 | deadcat | dutch: if you want people to have access. chmod -R 777 /usr |
| 07:00.55 | *** join/#debian eccf_ (n=fubar@cm111.sigma201.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 07:01.12 | dutch | Alright thank you - to explain my situation (I'll do that deadcat)... fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin when run under non-su says that all permission's denied. |
| 07:01.20 | *** join/#debian _joey (i=joey@2001:618:400:50e6:0:0:0:100) |
| 07:01.22 | dutch | I can't run it from root though because it tells me that would be a bad idea. |
| 07:01.26 | jm_ | haha |
| 07:01.51 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
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| 07:02.05 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-67-37-183-249.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 07:02.08 | *** part/#debian jair_11 (n=bremen@adsl-67-37-183-249.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 07:02.11 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 07:02.40 | _joey | off topic question is napster p2p service ? do you have to share the chunks of data with other useras with bt or ed2k ? |
| 07:02.40 | *** join/#debian pramz (n=pramod@c-67-168-84-207.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:02.47 | *** join/#debian kevinbenko (n=kevin@216.239.8.83) |
| 07:02.57 | deadcat | _joey: surte |
| 07:03.19 | _joey | so uploading is involved ? |
| 07:03.37 | Zegadora | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.40 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.43 | Zegadora | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.43 | deadcat | !ops Zegadora is spamming |
| 07:03.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zegadora is spamming |
| 07:03.46 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.49 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.50 | noiesmo | _joey, thats p2p it works two ways you cannot just leach you have to share |
| 07:03.52 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:03.58 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:04.19 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:04.19 | Eclipser | !ops Zegadora spamming |
| 07:04.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zegadora spamming |
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| 07:04.34 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:04.40 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:04.52 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:04.53 | deadcat | Eclipser: well. he picked the right time to do it though |
| 07:04.55 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:04.57 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:04.58 | APM500 | Coke, thanks for the advice, I'll try installing debian with the console later :-) |
| 07:05.01 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.03 | Eclipser | no wonder the human kind is going to be annihilated when there's people as stupid as this |
| 07:05.03 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:05.10 | Eclipser | deadcat, how so |
| 07:05.12 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.16 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.20 | deadcat | Eclipser: aint no one kicking his ass |
| 07:05.22 | Zegadora | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:05.25 | Eclipser | :( |
| 07:05.27 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.34 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.37 | Eclipser | we should whine to lilo |
| 07:05.37 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.40 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.43 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.43 | Eclipser | kline the bastard |
| 07:05.43 | deadcat | Eclipser: i sometimes pick the wrong time to accidently paste more than few lines |
| 07:05.44 | gidi | sometimes @ are usefull... just kick these idiots |
| 07:05.46 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:05.55 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:05.56 | _joey | ignore the wanker |
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| 07:06.07 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:06.08 | Eclipser | good idea |
| 07:06.10 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:06.10 | _joey | done ;) |
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| 07:06.22 | Eclipser | ah it's so quiet |
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| 07:06.34 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:06.34 | liable | lilo: can you ban this wanker? |
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| 07:06.50 | deadcat | liable: if he can he would have already |
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| 07:07.12 | Eclipser | I think he just didn't notice |
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| 07:07.19 | liable | deadcat: lilo can kline him, i just wanted to highlight him. |
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| 07:07.49 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:07.49 | *** join/#debian popcornorama (n=g4l3ku5@c-67-187-20-28.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
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| 07:07.56 | peterS | dondelelcaro: another kickban, could you? |
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| 07:07.58 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:08.04 | jm_ | retartd |
| 07:08.05 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:08.07 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:08.12 | liable | oh ffs |
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| 07:08.25 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:08.34 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:08.34 | Sunblade | /ignore Zegadora :) |
| 07:08.37 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:08.37 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:08.47 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:08.55 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:08.55 | SerajewelKS | !ops wake up |
| 07:08.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: wake up |
| 07:08.55 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:08.56 | Sunblade | and popcornorama ofcourse |
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| 07:09.01 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.02 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.03 | Eclipser | kline for c-67-187-20-28.hsd1.tx.comcast.net! |
| 07:09.04 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.04 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.06 | deadcat | the ops suck tonight |
| 07:09.07 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.07 | *** join/#debian Vince35 (n=human@d213-103-27-23.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 07:09.07 | popcornorama | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.09 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.11 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.13 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.13 | Kiowas | heh |
| 07:09.13 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.16 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.17 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.17 | *** join/#debian JohnBlade (n=johnblad@CPE-60-226-52-107.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:09.18 | Kiowas | looks like this channel needs more ops |
| 07:09.19 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.20 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.22 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.22 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.23 | deadcat | i guess i will just check out his website. )= |
| 07:09.25 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.25 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:09.31 | popcornorama | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.34 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:09.37 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.39 | JohnBlade | ok guys i'm in a bind. any old guru's out there that know how to change the ip address on an old aix 3.1 server? |
| 07:09.40 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.40 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.41 | SerajewelKS | or we could go find an ircop |
| 07:09.43 | Zegadora | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.43 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:09.52 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.52 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.52 | noiesmo | deadcat, don't do it. don't give in to umm |
| 07:09.55 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.55 | popcornorama | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.58 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.59 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:09.59 | *** part/#debian gidi (n=airness@ppp1-adsl02-108.the.forthnet.gr) |
| 07:10.01 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:10.04 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.04 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.07 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.08 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.09 | deadcat | noiesmo: i was just joking. i am too lazy. |
| 07:10.10 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.11 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:10.14 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.14 | peterS | !ops same bot still flooding |
| 07:10.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: same bot still flooding |
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| 07:10.29 | noiesmo | deadcat, i know you were :) |
| 07:10.31 | Zegadora | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:10.34 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.37 | JohnBlade | anyone ? |
| 07:10.37 | Zegadora | Dude help me out a little and vote for my site.. will you? http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:10.40 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.40 | deadcat | ok. let me call dondelelcaro's place and tell him to get in |
| 07:10.41 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.42 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:10.43 | popcornorama | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
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| 07:11.23 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.25 | Zegadora | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.26 | popcornorama | Whoa look at this.. http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.28 | Zegadora | http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.28 | popcornorama | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.31 | Zegadora | Check it out man! http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.31 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.33 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 07:11.34 | Zegadora | Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.34 | popcornorama | Hey can you vote for my site? thanks http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus |
| 07:11.36 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c-67-187-20-28.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 07:11.36 | *** part/#debian Zegadora (n=g4l3ku5@c-67-187-20-28.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 07:11.36 | bolrod | ... |
| 07:11.38 | *** part/#debian popcornorama (n=g4l3ku5@c-67-187-20-28.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 07:11.59 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: many thanks |
| 07:12.03 | dondelelcaro | sorry; was in another workspace |
| 07:12.34 | SerajewelKS | ok, in our newfound silence, the nvidia module compiled against 2.6.15 doesn't seem to like twinview. the right monitor just power off when X starts. |
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| 07:12.37 | peterS | maybe it will all end in 48 minutes when it stops being Sunday in most of the US |
| 07:12.39 | JohnBlade | anyone know anything about Aix3.1? /cry |
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| 07:12.52 | peterS | JohnBlade: 'cry' is right |
| 07:12.53 | deadcat | JohnBlade: no. |
| 07:13.16 | peterS | JohnBlade: I've never used aix 3.1, that's some seriously dated technology. I did have the joyous opportunity to try AIX 3.2.5 once. |
| 07:13.18 | SerajewelKS | !comfort me |
| 07:13.19 | dpkg | There, there, serajewelks. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:13.30 | SerajewelKS | i don't know why, but seeing him say that makes me feel better |
| 07:13.35 | JohnBlade | peterS yes it is fairly old |
| 07:13.54 | peterS | JohnBlade: "fairly old"? It was already ancient history when I started with AIX in 1996. (: |
| 07:13.59 | JohnBlade | any channels could you guys recommend? like #reallyoldaix |
| 07:14.06 | deadcat | no |
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| 07:14.26 | JohnBlade | Yes fair enough. - I'll go back to randomly hitting keys till something happens |
| 07:14.29 | SerajewelKS | damnit... is this nvidia twinview a known problem with 2.6.15? |
| 07:14.46 | JohnBlade | SerajewelKS using nvidia or nv drivers? |
| 07:14.58 | deadcat | JohnBlade: nv dont support twinview |
| 07:15.29 | jm_ | JohnBlade: comp.unix.aix and possibly their FAQ |
| 07:15.42 | JohnBlade | jm_ thanks |
| 07:16.11 | SerajewelKS | JohnBlade: nvidia |
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| 07:16.24 | SerajewelKS | JohnBlade: works on 2.6.12, just compiled with 2.6.15 and i have no twinview |
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| 07:17.11 | JohnBlade | SerajewelKS - Heh my mythtv box is still on 2.6.12 and as such hasn't had any issues you've had... anything in the syslog at all ? |
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| 07:17.20 | SerajewelKS | JohnBlade: meaning dmesg? |
| 07:17.47 | JohnBlade | SerajewelKS any interesting error messages or just no go? |
| 07:18.20 | SerajewelKS | JohnBlade: no errors that i can see |
| 07:18.23 | JohnBlade | SerajewelKS - sorry I have to head of and figure out how to work this fang dangled new aix 3.1 |
| 07:18.46 | JohnBlade | JohnBlade perhaps try and older revision of the nvidia driver |
| 07:18.58 | jm_ | new? maybe he means 5.3? |
| 07:19.01 | peterS | JohnBlade: I'd suggest the powerpc port of Debian, but I suspect that AIX 3.1 and Debian do not support *any* of the same hardware (: |
| 07:19.13 | peterS | ah, he left |
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| 07:19.39 | SerajewelKS | damnit |
| 07:19.48 | dutch | deadcat: Thanks fixed my problem. deadcat is aces |
| 07:19.48 | SerajewelKS | how could 2.6.15 just suddenly break twinview |
| 07:19.54 | deadcat | dutch: sure |
| 07:20.07 | stoned | is there a way where I can take a 30gb partition on hda and a 60gb partition on hdb, combine the two somehow and mount it as /home for a total of 90gb? I can't seem to find anything about it on gogole? but what terms can i search for ? |
| 07:20.12 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: check /var/log's x log |
| 07:20.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
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| 07:23.37 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: lots of (WW) regarding sync ranges |
| 07:23.44 | deadcat | EE ? |
| 07:25.05 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: no |
| 07:25.16 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: it does complain that i don't have a layout section though |
| 07:25.32 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: "No layout section, using the first screen section." |
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| 07:26.06 | jm_ | stoned: RAID |
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| 07:28.53 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: it does complain that it can't probe the EDID of CRT-1 (the right monitor) |
| 07:30.01 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: i think i've got it |
| 07:31.11 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: ah. i have 2 LCD so i dont know your situation (= |
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| 07:31.22 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: okay apparently this kernel revision is a little more sensitive to sync ranges |
| 07:31.35 | jm_ | that's not really kernel related |
| 07:31.43 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: i now have X.org seeing the right monitor, but the monitor apparently doesn't like the sync ranges |
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| 07:32.27 | arcane | "apt-get install vim;" .... Sweet.... now i open aptitude and its there ready to be uninstalled ?! |
| 07:32.54 | jm_ | use aptitude to install things, don't mix them |
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| 07:33.13 | SerajewelKS | crap, google doesn't know about my monitor |
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| 07:35.40 | peterS | sud0: still there? can I send you a copy of the updated README.Debian for subversion that talks about emacs modes? |
| 07:35.51 | tmontana | has anyone ever used sshfs to upload files? |
| 07:36.20 | sud0 | peterS, sure, thanks. I've been over on #emacs and searching the web for a solution so I could give you some text to put in there! :) |
| 07:36.26 | arcane | wow thats lame :( |
| 07:36.33 | peterS | sud0: DCC incoming --- |
| 07:37.29 | peterS | sud0: I just tested vc-svn.el with xemacs21 and it's not compatible. and rumor has it it is not compatible with other emacsen either |
| 07:38.20 | sud0 | peterS: I tried the version from CVS HEAD out of the Emacs repo, and it doesn't work |
| 07:38.37 | peterS | sud0: with emacs20 or emacs21 or what? |
| 07:38.49 | peterS | sud0: by "doesn't work" does it fail to load with a syntax error, or something more subtle? |
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| 07:39.05 | peterS | (with xemacs21 it fails with a syntax error) |
| 07:39.30 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: fixed it |
| 07:39.32 | liable | arcane: you can purge and re-install aptitude and it will fix that, but if you use apt-get one day and aptitude the next, then you will keep getting these sort of problems. |
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| 07:39.54 | arcane | liable, yeah... which isnt so cool... especially with more than 1 admin |
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| 07:40.07 | sud0 | peterS: when I go to open a file under svn control, I get "Wrong number of arguments: #<subr defalias>, 3" |
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| 07:40.44 | peterS | sud0: *nod*, that's the same syntax error xemacs sees - defalias apparently can't take 3 arguments in either version of emacs |
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| 07:41.59 | sud0 | peterS: I think the safest option is to revert to the most recent version that you guys actually shipped with the svn package. Given packages.d.o is down, how can I snarf a copy? I'm digging around in svn.collab.net for a candidate, but there's lots of branches to choose from... |
| 07:42.12 | sud0 | at least we know that works with v21... |
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| 07:42.29 | peterS | sud0: yeah let me see if I can find it |
| 07:42.53 | iostream | Hi. Like /bin/true, /bin/false, why is there not an /bin/not? I need to invert an exit status... how do I do that? |
| 07:43.01 | liable | arcane: iirc its fixed in a latter version, but if you run sarge, then i guess your kinda screwed |
| 07:43.12 | arcane | :) |
| 07:43.19 | arcane | lump it i shall :) |
| 07:43.25 | arcane | thanks |
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| 07:43.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: still there? |
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| 07:43.57 | peterS | sud0: here: svn export -r9195 http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/vc-svn.el |
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| 07:44.33 | peterS | sud0: it seems r9195 was the most recent version before it was taken down entirely and replaced with a pointer to emacs cvs |
| 07:44.40 | nima | what cypher should i use with ssh if i want it to be fast? |
| 07:44.52 | deadcat | none |
| 07:44.56 | peterS | nima: 'arcfour' with protocol 2 |
| 07:45.17 | sud0 | peterS: yes, just found it myself - is this right? http://svn.collab.net/viewcvs/*checkout*/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/vc-svn.el?rev=9195 |
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| 07:45.28 | nima | *cipher |
| 07:45.45 | peterS | sud0: should be equivalent, I don't use the viewcvs interface so I can't verify the path, but that's the same revision number |
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| 07:46.27 | peterS | sud0: (I already happened to have the upstream repo checked out locally so I could find the info pretty fast without a web interface) |
| 07:46.30 | sud0 | peterS: ok, seemed to be the only way I could find it by browsing the repo via the website. (Kinda weird that the svn project uses viewcvs). |
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| 07:46.44 | yos87 | hi |
| 07:46.56 | yos87 | somebody know cheapbytes.com |
| 07:46.57 | peterS | sud0: well, viewcvs is a good product, and adapting it to work with subversion happened at least a year or two ago, so. |
| 07:47.09 | peterS | yos87: we've heard of it, why? |
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| 07:47.43 | yos87 | peterS: I bought debian software from that site, |
| 07:47.44 | SerajewelKS | okay so my tuner card works with TV, but not composite |
| 07:47.51 | yos87 | bit I didn't reach me |
| 07:47.52 | Mortalman | Anyone know where I can find a table of common linux commands and their uses? |
| 07:47.57 | sud0 | peterS: ah, ok. :) So I've (briefly) tested this verion, and it works fine. I'll write a little bit of prose for your readme and send it to you. |
| 07:47.59 | yos87 | it's more then 2 month |
| 07:48.13 | liable | yos87: so, complain to them. |
| 07:48.23 | peterS | sud0: great. if you want to do this by filing a bug instead, feel free, but IRC seems to be working so far (: |
| 07:48.35 | yos87 | I complain, they say call your agency |
| 07:48.36 | nima | thanks, peterS |
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| 07:48.47 | seeeS | my xserver segfaults |
| 07:48.57 | vin` | 6.9? |
| 07:49.00 | yos87 | I call my agency, the say give us your air mails number |
| 07:49.08 | yos87 | and I don't have that number |
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| 07:49.15 | nima | indeed, Mortalman, that would be useful |
| 07:49.22 | yos87 | someone try it before? |
| 07:49.28 | SperMite | whats a command that list the kernel i have installed? |
| 07:49.43 | peterS | SperMite: kernel you have *running* - 'uname -r' |
| 07:49.44 | nima | uname -r |
| 07:49.45 | gidi | i have a question about epic, I use epic4 (with the jmz |
| 07:49.45 | gidi | script), I would like to know how can I configure epic to "beep me" |
| 07:49.48 | gidi | when my nick is being notifed on a channel |
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| 07:50.09 | peterS | SperMite: kernels you have *installed* - 'dpkg -l kernel-image-* linux-image-*' |
| 07:50.20 | yos87 | someone use cheapbytes before? |
| 07:50.54 | jm_ | my Debian 1.3.1 CD-s were ordered from cheapbytes back then, but I doubt that helps you |
| 07:51.06 | peterS | jm_: heh, indeed, they've been around a long time |
| 07:51.48 | yos87 | jm_: do you know any other trusted site can I buy debian ther? |
| 07:51.51 | jm_ | gidi: epic is based on ircii and has similar hooking system, even enhanced so /help on |
| 07:52.16 | jm_ | yos87: as the web page says -- http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 07:52.30 | yos87 | nothing in my aria |
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| 07:52.44 | yos87 | even it's not abailable in my country |
| 07:52.48 | yos87 | in my aria |
| 07:52.51 | gidi | jm_ : I know, I use epic for 2 years now, the last days I'm trying to find out how I will enable this feature |
| 07:52.55 | yos87 | and no body have it |
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| 07:53.11 | yos87 | and mostly no body hear about it |
| 07:53.18 | liable | yos87: you cant download? (not even net cafe?) |
| 07:53.19 | yos87 | jm_ |
| 07:53.31 | SperMite | look normal?? ii linux-image-2.6.12-1- 2.6.12-10 Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 SMP |
| 07:53.46 | yos87 | liable: but it's very large |
| 07:54.03 | yos87 | maybe I need one long day to finish the downloading |
| 07:54.22 | yos87 | I have adsl |
| 07:54.25 | peterS | SperMite: looks normal, though it cut off the name of the package a bit, should be "linux-image-2.6.12-1-686". that version string should match 'uname -r'. |
| 07:54.35 | yos87 | and still not enough |
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| 07:55.14 | peterS | yos87: you normally do not need to download *all* of Debian, just the first CD is enough. And really, for the installation process, just the netinst CD (around 110 MB) is enough - anything else you wish to install can be downloaded later. |
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| 07:56.12 | SperMite | 2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 07:56.13 | SperMite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:57.02 | peterS | SperMite: 2.6.12-1-686-smp is correct (I didn't notice the -smp thing earlier), it's a prepackaged kernel. if you compiled your own, and are running that, it will look somewhat different. |
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| 07:58.39 | SerajewelKS | well, yay, at least i got TV working |
| 07:58.47 | peterS | w00t, SerajewelKS |
| 07:59.20 | yos87 | peterS: what is this link of that 110 mb file |
| 07:59.24 | SerajewelKS | yeah, i just figured out that the "mirror" filter segfaults tvtime =D |
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| 08:00.07 | peterS | yos87: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 08:01.01 | TraceGreen | hello, what about linux support for winmodem? i check some website such as http://linmodems.org/, but the documents on it seems very old. |
| 08:01.18 | TraceGreen | they just talk about kernel 2.2* |
| 08:01.34 | dutch | Which directory will contain all of my .scr files? |
| 08:01.40 | dutch | Debian sarge |
| 08:01.42 | peterS | TraceGreen: not all that much has changed since then |
| 08:01.55 | Eclipser | dutch, .scr sounds like windows screensaver file |
| 08:01.58 | peterS | dutch: what is a .scr file? not a Windows screensaver module? |
| 08:02.05 | robertbb | Ugh. XChat is being stupid. |
| 08:02.06 | Eclipser | which is basically just an executable |
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| 08:02.21 | dutch | Okay nevermind it's only for windows then - embarrassing sorry |
| 08:02.25 | liable | TraceGreen: get the scanmodem package, run it, and post the results on there list. |
| 08:02.49 | TraceGreen | peterS, so, do you mean i can also use those packet in linux 2.6*? |
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| 08:03.17 | liable | TraceGreen: there are new packages, even gcc-4 ones, the biggest thing is to see whether your modem is supported. |
| 08:03.19 | dj-death | Hi all |
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| 08:03.26 | peterS | TraceGreen: probably not - some drivers might have been updated for linux 2.6, some drivers not. you just have to do the research. but if the info is not on linmodems.org, I don't know where it would be. |
| 08:03.53 | TraceGreen | liable, peterS thanks! |
| 08:04.12 | yos87 | peterS: the link is not working |
| 08:04.14 | yos87 | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 08:04.17 | yos87 | this is working |
| 08:04.22 | dj-death | could someone explain why I get this : |
| 08:04.23 | dj-death | mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 |
| 08:04.23 | dj-death | mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array. |
| 08:04.40 | peterS | yos87: that's it then. the actual CD image is somewhere on cdimage.debian.org, but linked from the web page. |
| 08:06.24 | liable | TraceGreen: some even have kernel drivers these days, mine uses the intel alsa-m module. |
| 08:06.46 | yos87 | it's 144 mb |
| 08:06.56 | peterS | yos87: ok, 144 MB. still a lot less than 650 MB. |
| 08:07.01 | yos87 | yea |
| 08:07.25 | peterS | yos87: it was 110 MB at one time (awhile before sarge release). apparently it keeps getting new features and new language translations. |
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| 08:08.06 | yos87 | the speed 50 kb/s |
| 08:08.17 | yos87 | only |
| 08:08.31 | peterS | yos87: so 49 minutes. could be worse. |
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| 08:08.37 | TraceGreen | liable, first, i use lspci to check type of my modem, then, i find /lib/module/2.6.11/module.pcimap and i can find a module responding to my modem, does it mean this module can driver my modem? |
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| 08:08.50 | yos87 | peterS: you are right |
| 08:09.09 | yos87 | peterS: where are you from |
| 08:09.16 | peterS | yos87: central US |
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| 08:09.47 | rabies | hi |
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| 08:10.01 | peterS | yos87: your IP address is in UAE - that's where you are? |
| 08:10.14 | yos87 | yes |
| 08:10.25 | A64 | Hi there.. a simple question: can you recommend me a PPPoE server for Debian which is capable of serving ~ 2.000 PC-s ? The 'factory' one (pppoe-server) is intended for testing only. |
| 08:10.28 | yos87 | how do you know the ip place? |
| 08:10.53 | liable | TraceGreen: i dont know, ask the linmodems mailing list. its not easy telling what will work or not, those guys are definately the experts. |
| 08:11.03 | peterS | yos87: I ran '/whois yos87' in my IRC client, to find the IP address, then 'whois 83.110.219.17' in a shell |
| 08:11.14 | TraceGreen | liable, ok. |
| 08:11.19 | peterS | yos87: the contact address for your IP range is something *.ae |
| 08:12.04 | yos87 | yes, I can see your ip, but I cannot see us |
| 08:12.06 | dutch | How can I run kfind if it's giving me xlib connection refused and Invalid Magic-Cookie key errors? And not being able to connect to x server? |
| 08:12.28 | peterS | yos87: perhaps you can use the (limited) Arabic language support in the installer. (that is one reason it is 144 MB, because of all the translations) |
| 08:12.39 | liable | dutch: are you tryiong to run it as root? |
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| 08:12.59 | dutch | Yep |
| 08:13.02 | yos87 | peterS: yes |
| 08:13.16 | peterS | dutch: install and use the 'sux' program when you have to run something graphical as root |
| 08:13.24 | peterS | dutch: instead of just 'su' |
| 08:13.27 | liable | dutch: then dont. or use gksu or kdesu or whatever. |
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| 08:13.55 | dutch | Alright thanks |
| 08:13.59 | yos87 | peterS: how do you know the ip range for wich country" |
| 08:14.10 | liable | dutch: things that need to run as root, kde normally has a SU option in the menu. |
| 08:14.21 | peterS | yos87: I don't, but the 'whois' command gave me information - it knows where to look for different IP ranges |
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| 08:14.41 | yos87 | yea |
| 08:14.43 | peterS | yos87: the debian whois package is updated regularly with new IP ranges and where to look for information about each one |
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| 08:16.55 | peterS | yos87: even if 'whois' had only told me the phone number for the main contact for those IP addresses, I could look up "971" in /usr/share/misc/inter.phone.gz (from the 'miscfiles' package) and it would tell me that 971 is UAE (: |
| 08:17.40 | liable | heh, more than one way to skin a cat :) |
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| 08:18.14 | ejofee | please help me get an ekhis.org pgp key! (it doesn't work with "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 30964F45A207917A; gpg --armor --export 30964F45A207917A | apt-key add -") |
| 08:18.18 | peterS | yeah. 'miscfiles' is a great package to have installed, you never know when you might need inter.phone.gz or airport.gz or countries.gz |
| 08:18.47 | SlayerXP | any Template Toolkit users in? |
| 08:18.48 | peterS | ejofee: which step fails? |
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| 08:19.31 | peterS | ejofee: oh, I see, subkeys.pgp.net doesn't have that key |
| 08:19.55 | ejofee | peterS: "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 30964F45A207917A" |
| 08:20.13 | ejofee | peterS: which server does have it then? |
| 08:20.30 | peterS | ejofee: I don't know - I just tried pgp.mit.edu and they don't either |
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| 08:21.09 | ejofee | peterS: doesn't your apt-get show the same gpg errors? |
| 08:21.23 | peterS | ejofee: I don't use ekhis.org sources, so no |
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| 08:21.59 | ejofee | peterS: ("W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.ekhis.org experimental Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 30964F45A207917A [seven times!]") |
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| 08:22.13 | ploo | whats the best gui mp3 player ? :) |
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| 08:22.45 | peterS | ejofee: interesting ... I notice that the FTP site on ekhis.org has 7 different signatures. I wonder why. |
| 08:22.48 | liable | wow, miscfiles has got a shitload of interesting tidbits in it. |
| 08:23.01 | sud0 | peterS: I've added an explanation and instructions re Emacs/SVN, and took the liberty of rewriting the NFS section as well. Use as you wish :) - DCC incoming... |
| 08:23.14 | ejofee | peterS: what decides which one to use? |
| 08:23.27 | peterS | liable: indeed. very useful. I think at one point it included the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, but someone decided that was dumb in a global project |
| 08:23.44 | jm_ | it still does in Sarge :) |
| 08:23.54 | peterS | jm_: that recent? I thought this was years ago. hmmm. |
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| 08:24.47 | liable | peterS: still got the constitution. |
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| 08:25.40 | sud0 | peterS, by installing it in /usr/local/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp (as described) it will avoid problems conflicting with v22. I'm wondering why that wouldn't have solved the problem with potential conflicts b/w v22 and svn. |
| 08:25.51 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:25.51 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:26.21 | peterS | sud0: (1) it is against Policy to install stuff in /usr/local, other than directories (so local admins know where they can put stuff) |
| 08:26.23 | liable | hrm, maybe not, show, says it does, but it doesnt seem to be there in /usr |
| 08:26.30 | vin` | tarzeau: bubbles |
| 08:26.53 | peterS | sud0: (2) I don't feel comfortable dropping random stuff into /usr/share/emacs21 since we don't "own" that area |
| 08:27.16 | sud0 | peterS: fair enough |
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| 08:27.39 | peterS | sud0: perhaps I'll ping the emacs maintainer and ask if he thinks it's ok to do that, or if he wants to ship that copy of vc-svn |
| 08:27.41 | yos87 | peterS: I'm downloading now, But I already pay money in cheapbytes (^^) |
| 08:27.56 | peterS | yos87: yeah, I understand, that's pretty annoying not to receive something you paid for |
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| 08:28.20 | sud0 | peterS, it would ceratinly be nice, to bridge the gap. and it can go in the 21.4 specific directory, so as not to conflict. |
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| 08:28.47 | sud0 | peterS, did you get the README ok? |
| 08:28.53 | peterS | sud0: I really don't like the idea of putting something in a directory which will change as soon as someone decides to upgrade debian's emacs21 to 21.5 or 21.6 |
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| 08:29.01 | peterS | sud0: yes I did, I'm reading it now. good information. I might reformat it a bit, but it looks good |
| 08:29.17 | peterS | sud0: I'll put you in the changelog - do you want to be credited by name, or email, or what? |
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| 08:29.54 | sud0 | peterS, cool. thx but don't worry about credit, I don't mind. |
| 08:30.19 | peterS | sud0: if you really *don't* want to be mentioned, fine, but my "default" is always to credit someone who writes text for me |
| 08:30.57 | peterS | sud0: so unless you actually *object* I'll at least put your name in there, from irc /whois |
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| 08:31.47 | sud0 | peterS, ok I'll msg you |
| 08:32.08 | gl1tchy0ne | hey does anyone know if there is another good repo for multimedia besides marillat? |
| 08:32.17 | marc | gotta quick question for yas. i'm trying to load debian on my gateway (sucessfully done) - iptables in the kernel and masquerade setup. ip_foward...how do i get this into my sysctl? |
| 08:33.48 | dragoon_ | net.ipv4.ip_forward |
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| 08:35.11 | Usiu | Can I use libtool from experimental whereas sid's it's too old for me.. ? |
| 08:36.45 | dondelelcaro | Usiu: what in the world are you using that things that the libtool in sid is too old? |
| 08:37.51 | sep | gl1tchy0ne, you might have more success asking for a spesific package/aplication |
| 08:38.06 | gl1tchy0ne | so anyone know a good repo for multimedia other then marillat cause it is giving me errors |
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| 08:38.12 | gl1tchy0ne | oh sorry |
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| 08:38.26 | gl1tchy0ne | stuff like xine-ui mplayer and the lot |
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| 08:41.39 | tarzeau | vin`: i'm at werk, but tonight? |
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| 08:42.06 | deadline_ | hi all, is there any debian specific howto to get php to work with apache? |
| 08:42.50 | bibe | deadline_ : apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 should get php to work |
| 08:43.03 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: install the appropriate apache module for php4, make sure it is loaded; (HEAD localhost) and away you go. |
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| 08:44.10 | Usiu | dondelelcaro, bmpx |
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| 08:47.24 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: how can i make sure if the module is loaded? |
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| 08:49.18 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: that's what HEAD localhost; or wget -S -O /dev/null http://localhost; will do |
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| 08:49.36 | yos87 | peterS: does debian amircan os |
| 08:49.37 | jm_ | !find chkwww |
| 08:49.49 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'chkwww' returned no results. |
| 08:49.51 | peterS | yos87: what? |
| 08:50.18 | jm_ | american possibly |
| 08:50.28 | yos87 | peterS : I mean, debian is amircan software? |
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| 08:50.57 | peterS | yos87: debian is a collection of software developed all over the world |
| 08:50.58 | yos87 | peterS: because the name is not looks like amircan |
| 08:51.06 | dondelelcaro | yos87: there are DDs in most countries; it's pan national, and has little if anything to do with nations. |
| 08:51.11 | yos87 | yea |
| 08:51.14 | peterS | yos87: even individual packages are sometimes developed by people from many different countries |
| 08:51.46 | yos87 | yea, thank you |
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| 08:52.49 | yos87 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:54.41 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: nice command btw. i received some information about my apache daemon, but it doesnt say anything about php |
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| 08:55.28 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: then you haven't loaded the php module. Which version of apache are you using? |
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| 08:55.59 | dondelelcaro | igraltis1: /quit |
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| 08:56.16 | igraltis1 | hmm i would join debian.de |
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| 08:56.34 | dondelelcaro | igraltis1: /join #debian.de |
| 08:56.40 | igraltis1 | i dont know in irssi how to quit |
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| 08:56.48 | peterS | igraltis1: /quit |
| 08:56.57 | igraltis1 | ah ok |
| 08:57.00 | igraltis1 | thx |
| 08:57.08 | peterS | to* |
| 08:57.14 | guru | how do i get rid of all the "junk" nvidia's installer installs? |
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| 08:57.21 | peterS | igraltis1: oh if you just want to leave a channel, use '/part' |
| 08:57.35 | threat | how does one edit the --initrd option? |
| 08:57.43 | threat | in make-kpkg |
| 08:57.45 | guru | i installed the nvidia drivers using nvidia's installer before i read the nvidia faq for debian and now i want to do it The Right Way |
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| 08:58.12 | igraltis1 | mayby i aslo her |
| 08:58.39 | peterS | igraltis1: yeah, being in multiple channels is easy with irssi, you can use Alt-2, Alt-3, Alt-4, etc. to switch between them |
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| 08:59.00 | dondelelcaro | threat: you don't, generally. If you're compiling your own kernel, you rarely actually want it to have an initrd. |
| 08:59.08 | igraltis1 | i have upgrade to to xorg 6.9 and now my xserver say he does not find fonts anymore |
| 08:59.13 | guru | peterS: unless you're using a term that won't allow it, in which case ESC-1, ESC-2, etc works |
| 08:59.24 | peterS | guru: well, yeah |
| 08:59.34 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: 1.3 |
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| 08:59.54 | igraltis1 | i can switch with Ctl + p |
| 08:59.54 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: maybe u should consider using apache2? |
| 09:00.04 | liable | hehe |
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| 09:00.40 | liable | igraltis1: ctl n will go backwards too. |
| 09:01.31 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: so install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 09:01.51 | dondelelcaro | Usiu: it's in debian already as beep-media-player, iirc. |
| 09:01.52 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: i already have it |
| 09:02.01 | liable | or, actually forwards.. but, if you have been going backwards to start with.. |
| 09:02.07 | igraltis1 | ah ok i was goining always trough all :) |
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| 09:03.03 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: then run apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4 |
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| 09:03.24 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: and then restart apache; and check the output of HEAD or wget -S... again. |
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| 09:03.33 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: ok, let me try |
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| 09:06.41 | sini | hello |
| 09:06.46 | yos87 | hello |
| 09:07.04 | liable | HOLA! |
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| 09:07.34 | yos87 | hi tzte |
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| 09:08.51 | izte | hello |
| 09:09.47 | streuner | hm, fine - nobody seems to have any problems with debian... ;-) |
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| 09:10.41 | fireba11 | streuner: not entirely true ;-) |
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| 09:11.02 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: i don't have a command called apache-modconf (?) trying it with apache2 at the moment, but still no php output in the HEAD thing |
| 09:11.24 | fireba11 | hat to reinstall one debian server last week .. did copy my psotgresql database on it, everything is working but autovacuum complains about /etc/postgresql/postgresql.env missing .. how can i fix that ? |
| 09:11.29 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: uh... when I ask you which apache version you're using, you need to tell me exactly what apache version you're using. |
| 09:11.44 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: telling me that you're using 1.3 when you're using 2 isn't going to do you any good. |
| 09:12.06 | Usiu | dondelelcaro, bmpx ? or bmp ? |
| 09:12.16 | streuner | fireba11: restore from backup? |
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| 09:12.16 | dondelelcaro | Usiu: bmp |
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| 09:12.27 | Usiu | dondelelcaro, then it isnt |
| 09:12.30 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: i have both installed. first when i was talking to you i tried with 1.3, now im trying the same with 2.0.54 |
| 09:12.31 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: use a2enmod php4; and it should enable the appropriate module. |
| 09:12.38 | Usiu | dondelelcaro, anyway I need to work with src |
| 09:12.41 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: does it work with 1.3? |
| 09:12.47 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: no |
| 09:12.55 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: which is serving on port 80? |
| 09:12.59 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 09:13.00 | ludwig | Hallo! |
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| 09:13.10 | Usiu | dondelelcaro, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Screenshots |
| 09:13.15 | noid | is the debian tomcat5 package a standalone thing? i mean, do i need to get an apache server too? |
| 09:13.18 | ludwig | Is there someone who can help me with an annoying Samba/WinXP problem? |
| 09:13.21 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: we're not communicating here. which version of apache is serving on port 80? |
| 09:13.33 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: at the moment: 2.0.54 |
| 09:13.53 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: sorry im drinking my first coffee today |
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| 09:14.07 | ludwig | After reinstalling the server, the WinXP machines behave weird with their profiles |
| 09:14.21 | streuner | knusper:/home/user# apt-file search postgresql.env |
| 09:14.21 | streuner | postgresql-client: etc/postgresql/postgresql.env |
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| 09:14.37 | fireba11 | ludwig: define weird |
| 09:14.46 | streuner | fireba11: ^^^ |
| 09:15.13 | dondelelcaro | Usiu: it sure doesn't look like it requires a newer version of libtool, and I really hope it doesn't, as newer versions of libtool are likely to cause things to break. |
| 09:15.14 | fireba11 | streuner: *confused* then where did my file go ? *searching for it ^°* |
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| 09:15.34 | dondelelcaro | deadline_: paste the output of HEAD localhost or wget -S ... into #flood. |
| 09:15.46 | ludwig | fireball: they copy the user's profile from and to the server, but they do not accept the changes the user has done (i.e. keyboard language to DE) ... |
| 09:15.47 | liable | how do you make that little degrees circle? |
| 09:16.01 | deadline_ | dondelelcaro: hold on. i think i may have found the problem... |
| 09:16.10 | dondelelcaro | right... well, good luck with that. |
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| 09:16.31 | ludwig | fireball: this since I reinstalled the server (new hard disks and controller, new install from scratch) |
| 09:17.00 | fireba11 | ludwig: you checked file permissions ? |
| 09:17.39 | ludwig | they are correct, deleting the "ntuser.dat" on the serverside results in the file being "back fromt he dead" after a user logout ... |
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| 09:19.46 | fireba11 | ludwig: meaning it will be re-created ? |
| 09:20.08 | ludwig | fireball: yes |
| 09:20.42 | fireba11 | ludwig: on a side note .. use nick completion .. those are two ones in my nick ^^ |
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| 09:20.54 | ludwig | fireball: ? |
| 09:21.07 | fireba11 | ludwig: then make sure that the new file got the same access settigns as the already existing files |
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| 09:21.20 | fireba11 | ludwig: it's fireba11 not fireball |
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| 09:22.20 | yos87 | peterS: download done |
| 09:22.23 | peterS | is that like mozi1la firef0x? |
| 09:22.26 | peterS | yos87: w00t |
| 09:22.55 | deadline_ | im wondering, the default apache2.conf does not contain a DocumentRoot entry. can i just add it ? |
| 09:22.58 | yos87 | I download the alpha one |
| 09:23.12 | yos87 | I don't know what is the diferant |
| 09:23.30 | ludwig | fireba11, the permissions are right |
| 09:23.33 | peterS | yos87: OH - you don't want the alpha one, you want the i386 one, assuming you have a regular PC |
| 09:23.50 | yos87 | what is alpha? |
| 09:23.55 | yos87 | I choose the first one |
| 09:23.57 | fireba11 | streuner: did look the contents up on another box ... and re-created it .. maybe i messed up when copying config over ... |
| 09:24.02 | liable | oh dear |
| 09:24.05 | fireba11 | ludwig: anything in the logs ? |
| 09:24.07 | noiesmo | deadline, check /etc/apache2/defualt-blah its a little diff apache1 they split the conf file up |
| 09:24.30 | yos87 | peterS: alph for what? |
| 09:24.31 | deadline_ | noiesmo: ok thanks |
| 09:24.36 | noiesmo | deadline, in apache2 they split it up i mean |
| 09:24.47 | deadline_ | noiesmo: i understood :) |
| 09:24.51 | peterS | yos87: alpha is a different type of CPU. they are used in scientific applications - not very common anymore |
| 09:24.57 | noiesmo | deadline_, np :) |
| 09:25.04 | yos87 | too bad |
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| 09:25.24 | yos87 | peterS: i have to download i368 |
| 09:25.26 | bbbop | how can i create a backup copy of a bootable cd? with cat or dd it only copies ~63 megabytes of it and then returns an i/o error |
| 09:25.27 | ludwig | fireba11, nothing special, but now I have seen some thing of " Rejecting auth request from client NST-20051122 machine account NST-20051122$" |
| 09:25.37 | peterS | yos87: yes, unless you have a 64-bit machine or a Mac |
| 09:25.47 | yos87 | no |
| 09:25.51 | ludwig | fireba11, but it is strange domainlogon works |
| 09:26.03 | jm_ | bbbop: which dd command? |
| 09:26.07 | ludwig | fireba11, (machine account should be set up correctly) |
| 09:26.14 | yos87 | peterS: you had to tell me this point (^^) |
| 09:26.17 | bbbop | jm_: dd if=/dev/hdc of=foo.iso |
| 09:26.27 | peterS | yos87: sorry :/ |
| 09:26.33 | jm_ | bbbop: sounds OK - can you read the CD normally if you mount it? |
| 09:26.39 | bbbop | yep |
| 09:26.51 | jm_ | all the files? |
| 09:26.57 | ludwig | fireba11, another error is "Failed to open open /var/run/samba/registry.tdb! (No such file or directory)" |
| 09:27.14 | fireba11 | ludwig: now that looks liek it could be a couse :-) |
| 09:27.28 | yos87 | peterS: no problem, thank you anyway, it's more experience for me now to know there is differnat between alpha an i368 |
| 09:27.50 | yos87 | peterS: I'm gonna download it again |
| 09:28.08 | bbbop | jm_: hmm. /dev/hdc 62M 62M 0 100% /media/cdrom0 |
| 09:28.09 | peterS | yos87: i386, not i368. i386 means "Intel 386 series" - including the Pentium chips, and AMD Athlon chips |
| 09:28.21 | ludwig | fireba11, well, I have never heard of that registry.tdb (Rejecting auth request error looks like if it was the user entered a wrong password) |
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| 09:28.38 | bbbop | jm_: to be specific there's an "operating system :)" in there. cd works all right |
| 09:28.44 | jm_ | bbbop: try to read all the files on it (i.e. generated md5sums), then loop mount the ISO image and compare them |
| 09:28.51 | jm_ | generate |
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| 09:29.55 | yos87 | peterS: a mistake, but i always see this folder in windown cd, but I never knew why this |
| 09:30.19 | fireba11 | ludwig: i don't have the mentioned file either on my samba server .. but i'm not using domainlogins ... you got the same samba version as bevore ? |
| 09:30.26 | bbbop | jm_: okay! thanks |
| 09:30.27 | peterS | yos87: Windows NT 4.0 supported the Alpha CPU too. Windows 2000 does not, because Microsoft realised that they had very few customers using that type of machine |
| 09:30.31 | sini | l |
| 09:30.45 | ludwig | fireba11, think not |
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| 09:31.05 | fireba11 | ludwig: then consult the changelog .. just in case |
| 09:31.10 | sini | what can i use to as a remote shell terminal |
| 09:31.16 | deadline_ | noiesmo: /etc/apache2/default* doesnt exist here |
| 09:31.27 | ludwig | fireba11, ok, thx - I have to go now |
| 09:31.28 | yos87 | peterS: so they separate it |
| 09:31.35 | peterS | sini: what do you mean? the answer depends on what you mean |
| 09:31.48 | ludwig | bye |
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| 09:31.57 | yos87 | but why i386 exactly? |
| 09:31.58 | sini | i need to install a program on a remote server |
| 09:32.24 | fireba11 | sini .. and ? |
| 09:32.29 | sini | and i need to run it in shell |
| 09:32.31 | peterS | yos87: i386 means the Intel 386 series of CPUs. 386 is short for 80386, which was the successor to the 8086, 80186, and 80286 CPUs. |
| 09:32.42 | sini | but its on my website |
| 09:32.48 | sini | so how do i access it |
| 09:32.50 | noiesmo | deadline_, soz its in sites-available or sites-enabled do you have them |
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| 09:33.11 | peterS | yos87: the 80386 was the first 32-bit CPU in that series, so Linux does not run on any previous CPU from Intel, because those were only 16-bit |
| 09:33.16 | sini | i dunno |
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| 09:33.46 | peterS | sini: you can try using the 'ssh' program. that works for my web host. |
| 09:34.06 | EdLin | peterS: the main reason was probably the lack of an MMU and segmented addressing |
| 09:34.07 | sini | where can i get that, please |
| 09:34.10 | peterS | sini: some hosting providers do not provide ssh access, though - in fact they do not provide any shell access. in that case I guess you have to talk to your hosting provider directly |
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| 09:34.27 | peterS | EdLin: the 286 had a protected mode, which implies an MMU |
| 09:34.33 | sini | all i know its a apache server |
| 09:34.38 | sini | so it should |
| 09:34.39 | jm_ | they have patched Linux to run on lesses CPU-s too, but very few people use it |
| 09:34.40 | sini | maby |
| 09:34.41 | peterS | EdLin: but of course it was only a shadow of the 386 one |
| 09:34.45 | noiesmo | deadline_, y |
| 09:34.55 | jm_ | damn my typing sucks today, cold fingers |
| 09:35.12 | streuner | sini: do you have ssh access or not? |
| 09:35.14 | EdLin | peterS: yeah, the 286 could even run Xenix and Microport SysV |
| 09:35.36 | yos87 | peterS: it's very value informations |
| 09:35.41 | peterS | EdLin: *nod*. I'm glad we no longer live in the days of trying to cram unix onto a 16-bit machine |
| 09:35.49 | sini | i dont know yet |
| 09:35.58 | sini | how can i find out |
| 09:36.05 | peterS | even if the 16-bit machine had a 24-bit address space or whatever the 286 protected mode was |
| 09:36.10 | sini | try 2 connect? |
| 09:36.24 | streuner | sini: well, why not |
| 09:36.29 | peterS | (the 8086 had a 20-bit address space but I think 286 protected mode was significantly larger) |
| 09:36.36 | EdLin | peterS: speaking of which I just ordered Lions Commentary, which has V6 that was crammed onto a PDP-11. :-) |
| 09:36.37 | fireba11 | sini if its a real virtual or physical server you should have login data for ssh ... |
| 09:36.51 | peterS | EdLin: that's for sale again? I thought it was long out of print |
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| 09:37.10 | sini | damn |
| 09:37.15 | sini | i dont think i do |
| 09:37.20 | EdLin | peterS: I surely hope its not out of print, because I bought a new one from Amazon |
| 09:37.20 | sini | only ftp |
| 09:37.26 | peterS | EdLin: cool |
| 09:37.34 | peterS | EdLin: yay for SCO (: |
| 09:37.39 | streuner | sini: why do you have SuSE installed on that server? |
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| 09:38.09 | EdLin | peterS: one of the few good things SCO has done |
| 09:38.35 | peterS | EdLin: to be fair, SCO was well-respected in unixland until they basically got transformed into Caldera |
| 09:38.59 | sini | oh no |
| 09:39.03 | EdLin | peterS: SCO was always considered to be the MS of commercial Unix even before they attacked Linux |
| 09:39.10 | sini | im trying 2 install unrealircd |
| 09:39.19 | yos87 | peterS: the full link is http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 09:39.26 | peterS | EdLin: eh, I thought MS was the MS of commercial Unix (: what with xenix |
| 09:39.37 | peterS | yos87: that's the right one, yes |
| 09:39.42 | sini | on my website |
| 09:39.49 | peterS | yos87: it's probably also smaller than 144 MB (: |
| 09:39.49 | EdLin | peterS: they gave Xenix to SCO. :-) |
| 09:39.57 | streuner | sini: ok, what's the IP? |
| 09:39.59 | peterS | EdLin: oh yeah. |
| 09:40.15 | sini | wait a ces |
| 09:40.18 | sini | sec* |
| 09:40.21 | sini | i got url |
| 09:40.26 | sini | dat help? |
| 09:40.29 | streuner | sini: you need in any case root-access |
| 09:40.29 | yos87 | peterS: 108.5 only |
| 09:40.39 | yos87 | peterS: it's not 144 |
| 09:40.42 | peterS | yos87: ha! didn't I say "110 MB"? (: |
| 09:40.56 | EdLin | peterS: Usenetters hated SCO, they considered their SysV to be a well-marketed piece of garbage. |
| 09:41.01 | streuner | sini: yes |
| 09:41.02 | sini | northsideimportscene.com |
| 09:41.10 | yos87 | peterS: aha so I hold the mistake now (^^) |
| 09:41.11 | peterS | EdLin: as may be, I thought AIX was the bogeyman |
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| 09:41.42 | EdLin | peterS: well, I'm talking about on the 386. AIX was "ain't Unix" |
| 09:41.51 | yos87 | peterS: you gave the right site first |
| 09:42.02 | peterS | EdLin: AIX had an i386 version once upon a time. unless I am misremembering terribly |
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| 09:42.17 | peterS | EdLin: you're probably right that it wasn't on anyone's radar though |
| 09:42.20 | EdLin | peterS: I don't remember AIX being on the PC. |
| 09:42.26 | yos87 | peterS: I meaned "size" not " site" |
| 09:42.33 | fantomas | Is there a lighttpd package for debian sarge? |
| 09:42.34 | peterS | yos87: heh |
| 09:42.43 | EdLin | peterS: they did briefly sell a PC Unix clone for the 8088. |
| 09:42.45 | peterS | fantomas: if there is it's probably available at backports.org or dotdeb.org |
| 09:43.13 | fantomas | peterS: oh, its in sid now? |
| 09:43.14 | peterS | EdLin: any real OS trying to run on an 8088 I just have to feel sorry for. lack of MMU must be a real pain |
| 09:43.25 | peterS | fantomas: yes |
| 09:43.27 | sini | streuner did u find out? |
| 09:43.44 | EdLin | peterS: when you programmed for the 8088 in C, you were taking your computer's life in your hands. |
| 09:43.49 | peterS | right |
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| 09:43.54 | EdLin | !u |
| 09:43.54 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 09:44.48 | yos87 | peterS: do you belive, I change the proxy, It's much faster now |
| 09:45.00 | yos87 | peterS: it's 160 kb now |
| 09:45.06 | yos87 | it was 50 only |
| 09:45.09 | peterS | yos87: oh, cool. 50 to 160. |
| 09:45.16 | sini | i wanna ask so many questions |
| 09:45.17 | yos87 | why: |
| 09:45.23 | peterS | yos87: so should be less than 15 minutes |
| 09:45.33 | deadline_ | why does apache2 always redirect me to the apache-default directory? |
| 09:45.47 | yos87 | peterS: I'm using an amirecan proxy |
| 09:46.02 | fireba11 | deadline_: hae a look at /etc/apache/sites-enabled |
| 09:46.11 | yos87 | peterS: it's128.252.19.20:3127 |
| 09:46.27 | streuner | sini: as peterS already mentioned, best thing talk to your provider directly |
| 09:47.14 | Mirrie | I'm trying to use SWAT and getting the error: The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost:901. I've checked inetd.conf, samba.conf and services file has the entry for swat on port 901. I tried : ftp server2 901 and was connected so this means port 901 is opened. Can anyone advise me pls? Is there a conflict between webmin and swat even though they run on different ports? |
| 09:47.18 | streuner | sini: what i see via whois is that you don't have full control over the server |
| 09:47.27 | earthling | xsane does not let normal user select the scanner device but root can. i've used lsof, lsusb, examined /proc and /dev but can NOT find the device root is using. when user is in xsane, lsof has entry for CHAR /dev/video0, but when root is using xsane, there is no comparable entry... I'm at my wits end.. Can anyone throw me a bone? Using pure sarge, no testing or sid apps... |
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| 09:47.52 | grupo32 | wenas!!! |
| 09:48.01 | grupo32 | wenas!! |
| 09:48.03 | deadline_ | fireba11: im very confused about this new type of configuration. this file seems to specify a virtual host under documentroot /var/www. does that mean i have to create a directory in /var/www/* for the site i want to create and then add that to the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default file? |
| 09:48.08 | grupo32 | sdfsdaf |
| 09:48.09 | earthling | btw, /dev/video0 is my webcam.. |
| 09:48.34 | fireba11 | deadline_: default is just a placeholder/example page anyway |
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| 09:48.46 | earthling | additionally, scanner is usb epson perfection 1250 using plustek driver.. |
| 09:48.51 | deadline_ | fireba11: so i can easily remove it? |
| 09:50.11 | sini | sorry streuner |
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| 09:50.21 | sini | its cars2envy.com |
| 09:50.46 | fireba11 | deadline: _ yes .. or use as base for your own config |
| 09:50.47 | sini | damn it |
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| 09:51.03 | sini | so i'll have 2 send email 2 provider |
| 09:51.30 | earthling | i forgot, also looked at dmesg for the scanner and nothing there, yet root can scan w/no problems..... Damn, this bugs the living hell outa me.. |
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| 09:51.58 | streuner | sini: the same IP... |
| 09:52.37 | deadline_ | fireba11: im curious about virtual hosts: actually i WANT to make virtual sites, but for testing purposes i am having the server on a LAN atm. how could i still access the virtual websites, without using its virtual address? (ofcourse the virtual address works only on the public net with another IP ) |
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| 09:53.07 | yos87 | peterS: it's not 160 now |
| 09:53.10 | Coke | deadline_: setup a local DNS (or any naming service) that will direct all hostnames to your server |
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| 09:53.23 | Coke | deadline_: then configure apache to handle the various domain names |
| 09:53.27 | yos87 | peterS: but it still faster then the local proxy |
| 09:53.33 | peterS | good, good |
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| 09:53.36 | liable | earthling: user is in scanner/video group? |
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| 09:53.59 | alexscott | !suicide |
| 09:54.09 | peterS | sini: nobody told me I could ssh to my web host, but when I tried it it worked. so I use that now for updates, rather than ftp. |
| 09:54.11 | earthling | yes, also added myself to tty group.. (used by pts devices.. |
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| 09:54.37 | fireba11 | deadline_: who told you that virtual hosts need IPs ? |
| 09:55.05 | liable | earthling: and logged out obviously? |
| 09:55.10 | deadline_ | fireba11: if i access a virtual host by domainname.com it has to point to an IP address... |
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| 09:55.17 | yos87 | peterS: what is the elite proxy? |
| 09:55.17 | earthling | absolutely.. |
| 09:55.28 | deadline_ | Coke: can i do that also with a local hosts file? or wont apache recognizing that? |
| 09:55.31 | fireba11 | deadline_: yes .. your point is ? |
| 09:55.32 | peterS | yos87: I don't know what you mean. I don't use a proxy at all |
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| 09:55.41 | Coke | deadline_: apache doesn't care. |
| 09:55.44 | sini | i got kssh, is that it? |
| 09:55.49 | earthling | i have deveral /dev/scannerXX but no dev/usbscanner.. |
| 09:55.55 | earthling | maybye thats what i need.. |
| 09:56.00 | Coke | deadline_: just make sure that your host running apache thinks that it is all those domain names. |
| 09:56.13 | peterS | sini: you should have a regular 'ssh' command installed by default, I believe |
| 09:56.19 | ricercar | Hello evry1 |
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| 09:56.42 | sini | peterS: i tried runnin it but its not coming up |
| 09:56.51 | deadline_ | Coke: NameVirtualHost test.com:0 has no VirtualHosts. that comes up when restarting apache. any ideas why? |
| 09:57.14 | bbrazil | sini: install the 'ssh' package |
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| 09:57.31 | Coke | deadline_: read the apache howto on the subject |
| 09:57.32 | streuner | without root-acces it would be HARD |
| 09:57.37 | streuner | access* |
| 09:57.47 | Coke | deadline_: also, :0 sounds very suspicious |
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| 09:58.10 | Coke | deadline_: could also be that test.com isn't found in it's resolving |
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| 09:58.21 | earthling | deadline, get a vanity account at hn.org then use ddclient to update their dns to your dynamic ip.. after that, set up your vhost for yourvanitydomain.hn.org and have fun playing wiht it.. |
| 09:58.30 | iturk | there is any dock aplication for fluxbox for quick launch and also very customized ?? |
| 09:58.35 | deadline_ | Coke: ok, means apache needs to be able to resolve that domainname? |
| 09:58.54 | Mirrie | sini, see if this works: open a terminal and do: ssh <loginid>@hostname |
| 09:58.59 | Coke | deadline_: yes, you can trick it by taking control of the name resolving locally, but :0 is wrong. you cannot bind to port 0. |
| 09:59.03 | streuner | oh, knusper:/home/user# telnet cars2envy.com 22 -Escape character is '^]'. SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 |
| 09:59.25 | peterS | streuner: heh |
| 09:59.28 | Coke | deadline_: there's vhost tutorial/howto on apache's home if I'm not mistaken. |
| 09:59.40 | Coke | deadline_: I'm sure the vhost module manual will reveal something. |
| 09:59.42 | streuner | peterS: well, on his server is sshd installed :-) |
| 09:59.46 | deadline_ | Coke: could you provide me a link? |
| 09:59.53 | Coke | deadline_: no, but google can |
| 09:59.54 | peterS | streuner: yeah, and you run telnet as root. |
| 10:00.01 | Coke | deadline_: http://apache.org/ |
| 10:00.04 | streuner | peterS: why not? :-) |
| 10:00.10 | earthling | iturk: look at the fluxbox homepage, they have a like (or used to) to a fluxconfig program... actually several of them, one for menus, one for keybindings, etc... worked fine.. |
| 10:00.20 | peterS | streuner: no reason, except that I'M GONNA HAX0R YOU |
| 10:00.35 | Coke | Oh noes! peterS is TEH H4XX0R!!!111 |
| 10:00.43 | streuner | peterS: just to test if sshd running or not... |
| 10:00.47 | streuner | heh |
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| 10:01.20 | sini | mirrie: The authenticity of host 'cars2envy.com (69.73.173.4)' can't be established. |
| 10:01.20 | peterS | streuner: you thought that was sini's server you were telneting to? it was mine and I know a hole in your telnet client, so I pwnz j00 |
| 10:01.21 | sini | RSA key fingerprint is 7e:d8:99:2e:b9:c0:89:18:49:1e:56:4d:57:f0:1a:74. |
| 10:01.21 | sini | Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? |
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| 10:01.27 | earthling | iturk: s/link/like/ |
| 10:01.39 | streuner | sini: yes |
| 10:02.04 | Mirrie | sini, what happens if you say yes? |
| 10:02.10 | Skrot | Hi. I've set up a brige between my ethernet (connected to my ISP) and a wlan-card (set up as a master). When I connect to the master from my laptop, I get DHCP-info from my ISP, but I can't reach the internet. I can't reach the internet from the firewall (the one with the bridge) either :) |
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| 10:02.36 | sini | cars2env@cars2envy.com's password: |
| 10:02.37 | sini | Shell access is not enabled on your account! |
| 10:02.37 | sini | If you need shell access please contact support. |
| 10:02.37 | sini | Connection to cars2envy.com closed. |
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| 10:03.01 | peterS | why sini felt the need to paste that ....... |
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| 10:03.12 | sini | sorry 4 pasting |
| 10:03.13 | streuner | peterS: ask himself? |
| 10:03.15 | peterS | sini: now you know what to do. "please contact support" |
| 10:03.24 | sini | yes |
| 10:03.26 | Mirrie | sini, does your remote server support ssh? |
| 10:03.30 | sini | thank you |
| 10:03.35 | sini | dunno |
| 10:03.42 | sini | i'll ask |
| 10:03.44 | peterS | yes it does, but it has access restrictions |
| 10:03.51 | Mirrie | there you go, sini... |
| 10:04.22 | sini | and once i connect its easy to find file that im looking for? |
| 10:04.41 | sini | thankx mirrie streuner |
| 10:04.47 | streuner | sini: as i said before |
| 10:04.56 | Mirrie | you're welcome, sini |
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| 10:05.03 | streuner | sini: you need root-access in order to install that app |
| 10:05.14 | peterS | streuner: eh, what app? |
| 10:05.31 | sini | ok |
| 10:05.36 | Mirrie | sini, are you the admin for the remote server? |
| 10:05.36 | kats | good day! debian.org says that netinstall requires "Internet access via Ethernet (possibly using a PCMCIA card in your laptop)" - I have a desktop machine connected via cat5 to a cablemodem. Do I meet the requirements? |
| 10:05.37 | streuner | peterS: unrealIRC i think |
| 10:05.37 | sini | it all makes sense now |
| 10:05.44 | sini | no |
| 10:05.58 | sini | its just a host server |
| 10:06.13 | peterS | kats: yes |
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| 10:06.21 | kats | hurrah! thanks Peter |
| 10:06.21 | sini | so when i send email what should i request? |
| 10:06.28 | peterS | kats: most cable modems should work just fine and probably even automatically |
| 10:06.36 | Agrajag- | im trying to allow www-data ssh access to my box using key authentication. it just doens't want to work as www-data though. other users work fine. what could be stopping this working? |
| 10:07.39 | Agrajag- | (ssh ends up asking for a password, which i obviously don't want. ssh -v tells me that it's trying key auth, but fails. so it's something on the server i believe) |
| 10:07.45 | peterS | Agrajag-: what's www-data's shell in /etc/passwd? |
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| 10:08.06 | Agrajag- | peterS: /bin/sh |
| 10:08.42 | Mirrie | no one can help me with my SWAT 'connection refused' problem..?? |
| 10:08.49 | peterS | Agrajag-: oh - are the directories ~www-data and ~www-data/.ssh owned by www-data? sshd checks that sort of thing as a precaution before allowing key auth |
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| 10:09.02 | Agrajag- | ah. let me check |
| 10:09.06 | peterS | Mirrie: uncomment the swat entry in /etc/inetd.conf and run '/etc/init.d/inetd reload' |
| 10:09.32 | Mirrie | peterS, will try that - thanks |
| 10:09.43 | sini | is that what i write agrajag or thats sumthin else? |
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| 10:09.49 | milestone | hi all |
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| 10:09.59 | earthling | any idea how I find the major/minor device numbers for my usb scanner so I can try mknod to create a device for it? |
| 10:10.16 | milestone | is it possible to tell scp to copy symlinks as is instead of following them? |
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| 10:10.19 | jm_ | earthling: devices.txt lists standard ones |
| 10:10.30 | milestone | couldn't find anything in the manpage |
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| 10:10.38 | jm_ | milestone: you can always use tar + ssh instead |
| 10:10.41 | earthling | jm_: thanks.. will look into it.. |
| 10:11.25 | Agrajag- | peterS: ~www-data was actually owned by root, changed that to www-data now - still no go though |
| 10:11.48 | peterS | Agrajag-: see if 'ssh -v' gives any hints. it probably won't since it's client-side but it might |
| 10:11.51 | Agrajag- | peterS: i can't figure out how to get sshd to give more verbose output either, can this be done? |
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| 10:12.12 | Agrajag- | yeah that doesn't tell me anything other than the public keys aren't being used |
| 10:12.16 | peterS | Agrajag-: sshd does log to syslog, if you enable this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config - I forget what the default is |
| 10:12.26 | milestone | jm_, I have to copy 300gb from a failing hdd to a new one mounted on another system. which is being offered to the broken system via nfs |
| 10:12.26 | Agrajag- | ok, i'll give that a go |
| 10:12.50 | milestone | jm_, and this is done with the kernel server that limits 2gb files |
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| 10:13.06 | dpy | hi guys |
| 10:13.11 | peterS | Agrajag-: but I notice /var/log/auth.log is not very wordy |
| 10:13.30 | wolaoye | can wget be used to download debian packages, without having to setup a sources.list? |
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| 10:13.37 | dpy | is there a magic variable that I can set in my .bashrc that will make sure apt-get/dpkg will never ever ask me ANY question again |
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| 10:13.52 | litage | join #linuxhelp |
| 10:13.57 | jm_ | milestone: I have just done that last week, using tar + nc |
| 10:13.58 | litage | join #linuxhelp |
| 10:13.59 | peterS | dpy: 'alias apt-get=true'? (: |
| 10:14.14 | litage | oops =P |
| 10:14.16 | dpy | peterS: funny... NOT |
| 10:14.22 | milestone | nc? |
| 10:14.27 | milestone | jm_, what is nc? |
| 10:14.33 | milestone | norton commander? |
| 10:14.35 | dpy | rpm is so good at this, so strict. |
| 10:14.40 | dpy | but I have to use debian here |
| 10:14.43 | dpy | it's not my choice |
| 10:14.47 | jm_ | milestone: netcat |
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| 10:15.08 | peterS | wolaoye: it's hard to know the exact URLs to download stuff, but you can certainly use a browser to surf to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ |
| 10:15.25 | milestone | jm netcat |
| 10:15.30 | sini | whats a really good ftp client? |
| 10:15.32 | milestone | i'will look into that |
| 10:15.37 | sini | not 2 complicated |
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| 10:15.54 | sini | kbear keeps crashing |
| 10:15.55 | peterS | dpy: you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' to set debconf to use a noninteractive frontend and only ask about high-priority questions (the ones which, in the maintainer's view, have no reasonable default) |
| 10:16.18 | Agrajag- | peterS: ah, it is a permission issue: "sshd[16394]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /var/www" - here's ls output of ~www-data: "drwxrwsr-x 29 www-data www-data 4.0K Jan 16 16:29 www" |
| 10:16.19 | noiesmo | sini, just use konqueror |
| 10:16.21 | peterS | dpy: all packages are *supposed* to go through debconf for user input, so that *should* take care of that. a few straggler packages might still prompt you by hand |
| 10:16.24 | dpy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.24 | wolaoye | peterS: ok, use browser to locate the package, then wget to download. should work? |
| 10:16.30 | dpy | will this work ? |
| 10:16.45 | peterS | dpy: uh ... 'man debconf' I guess, I don't remember the exact variable names |
| 10:16.51 | litage | i just got a new comp and tried installing 3.1r0a from dvd using "linux26". cdrom kernel drivers couldn't be found, so i installed using 2.4.27 instead. when i upgraded to 2.6.12 and rebooted, i got the usual "/sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file or directory" kernel panic |
| 10:16.52 | sini | konqueror? how do i do that? |
| 10:17.02 | dpy | peterS: it's about time that debian will forbid packages to ask any question |
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| 10:17.20 | noiesmo | sini, where it says location type ftp://sitename.com |
| 10:17.25 | peterS | dpy: debian does actually, it's written in debian policy. some packages still haven't complied though |
| 10:17.29 | sini | cool |
| 10:17.37 | dpy | i.e. that katy or lintian just returns an error, this way they cannot be uploaded to the ftp site anymore |
| 10:17.38 | litage | since then, i've booted into knoppix several times, removed/installed various kernels and reinstalled grub, but the error keeps occuring. what can i do to fix this? |
| 10:17.45 | Agrajag- | peterS: so www-data owns /var/www - but it's still not letting me - can you see what's wrong with those permissions? |
| 10:18.07 | earthling | from devices.txt, (48 = /dev/usb/scanner0 First USB scanner) is 48 the MAJOR device? |
| 10:18.07 | peterS | dpy: also, there's the small matter of dpkg itself asking questions about what to do in terms of config files which you've modified locally and the package has also modified. I'm not sure if you can suppress those questions or not |
| 10:18.31 | peterS | Agrajag-: it's probably balking at the chmod 2775. try 2755 to see if that's it |
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| 10:18.49 | jm_ | earthling: no, that's minor |
| 10:19.07 | Mirrie | peterS, I've modified the inetd.conf file as suggested and '/etc/init.d/inetd reload' produced an error :No such file or directory. On another pc, SWAT runs fine with the swat entry in inetd.conf file. Any more ideas? |
| 10:19.10 | peterS | Agrajag-: well, so long as ~www-data and ~www-data/.ssh are both owned by www-data, only the latter should need to have restrictive permissions |
| 10:19.14 | deadline_ | is there a debian specific howto for apache/vhost setup? |
| 10:19.26 | earthling | so, 48 is the Minor number, do I get the major number from lspci or lsusb or where?? |
| 10:19.29 | Agrajag- | peterS: great - the 2755 does it. thanks a lot |
| 10:19.41 | peterS | Mirrie: what do you mean, no such file or directory? do you have the 'inetd' package installed? if not, install it: 'aptitude install inetd' |
| 10:19.45 | moshii | earthling: major numbers are in devices.txt |
| 10:20.00 | sini | noiesmo: how do i upload files now? |
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| 10:20.16 | moshii | sini: drag them where you want them to go |
| 10:20.25 | noiesmo | sini, open another konqueror window and copy & paste |
| 10:20.28 | Mirrie | peterS, yes, I do. SWAT did run before - it suddenly 'died' ! |
| 10:20.42 | peterS | Agrajag-: no problem. you understand why ssh checks this stuff? (so other people can't rename your .ssh directory and create their own with their own authorized_keys file in it) |
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| 10:21.03 | sini | sweet |
| 10:21.13 | earthling | let me look at that file again... |
| 10:21.15 | liable | litage: i had that doing a debootstrap once, and iirc i did a mknod blah, but maybe try MAKEDEV generic |
| 10:21.15 | peterS | Mirrie: this 'no such file or directory' business is weird though. does /usr/sbin/inetd, in fact, exist? |
| 10:21.16 | sini | thx moshii noiesmo |
| 10:21.27 | noiesmo | sini, np :) |
| 10:21.48 | sini | another thing tho |
| 10:21.54 | dpy | "you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' to set debconf to use a |
| 10:21.54 | dpy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:21.59 | sini | if i upload tar.gz |
| 10:22.07 | dpy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.12 | sini | how do i extract it on remote server |
| 10:22.19 | Agrajag- | peterS: yeah, i get it. thanks again |
| 10:22.22 | azeem | dpy: why? |
| 10:22.28 | dpy | non-interactive means no questions, then don't configure |
| 10:22.36 | Mirrie | peterS, yes, it does exist - it was one of the first things I checked. |
| 10:23.03 | peterS | dpy: packages are allowed to ask questions at various priority levels - high priority means there's no reasonable default, you *have* to give an answer. medium and low priority are for things that *can* be just set to a default but some users might reasonably want to change at install time |
| 10:23.11 | azeem | dpy: no, it means "don't ask me question, I'll reconfigure myself later on perhaps" |
| 10:23.12 | dpy | azeem: if the end user demands: no question, its the only logical step to take, otherwise the enduser would have chosen to answer: high-priority question |
| 10:23.21 | peterS | Mirrie: so try 'killall -HUP inetd' |
| 10:23.37 | dpy | azeem: in my opinion installation and configuration should be separated anyway |
| 10:23.52 | dpy | and configuration should be handled outside the packaging system |
| 10:24.04 | azeem | dpy: like a wizard popping up the first time you use a program? |
| 10:24.05 | earthling | line 2547 in devices.txt says (180 char USB devices) That must be the Major device Number? and the 48 = /dev/usb/scanner0 First USB scanner must reference the Minor device nuber for the first usb/scanner.. |
| 10:24.06 | litage | is it 2.6.12 or 2.6.14 that requires udev? |
| 10:24.18 | fatal___ | litage: none? |
| 10:24.24 | peterS | dpy: you can edit files in /etc all you want. with policy-compliant packages, that will override any questions you may or may not have answered during installation |
| 10:24.28 | Mirrie | peterS, it gets interesting now: killall -HUP inetd ==> inetd: no process killed |
| 10:24.41 | dpy | but I disagree with most fundamental things with joey hess, so too bad for me, he is deeply rooted in the debian community :/ |
| 10:24.42 | litage | fatal___: isn't udev the new system that takes care of /dev/ ? |
| 10:24.49 | peterS | dpy: (if the questions asked at install time ever override the decisions you later make by editing files in /etc, that's a bug and should be reported) |
| 10:24.51 | moshii | earthling: why not just use udev? |
| 10:24.51 | crypt_ex | Is there any kind of software like gspot for Linux? |
| 10:24.53 | fatal___ | litage: yes, but it's not required by the kernel. |
| 10:24.58 | kneet | litage, yes - but - you can still run a static /dev |
| 10:25.00 | peterS | Mirrie: so try running it: /etc/init.d/inetd start |
| 10:25.15 | earthling | moshi: it doesnt' create a /dev/usbscanner for some reason.. |
| 10:25.18 | Mirrie | peterS, ok - will do |
| 10:25.18 | litage | ah i see |
| 10:25.22 | ricercar | I'm doing a network install of Debian 3.1 (2.6.8-2-386 kernel) and need the sound stuff. I have played soundfiles with xmms but couldn't run fluidsynth/qsynth because jackd couldn't open /dev/seq (which is absent). I was advised to run alsaconf, which first said it had found an Intel8x0 soundcard (my i810 stuff is on the mboard) and finally gave the message "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1194: No soundcards found...". Needless to say I can no longer play |
| 10:25.22 | ricercar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.27 | fatal___ | litage: gnome (among others) depend on udev..... but it doesn't work the other way around (kernel doesn't depend of udev). |
| 10:25.31 | litage | at the moment i'm in knoppix and have the hd mounted, and /dev/console exists |
| 10:25.39 | litage | fatal___: ah, gotcha |
| 10:26.03 | peterS | dpy: btw, whether to do configuration at install time is a philosophical issue. lots of us *like* the fact that debian packages tend to Just Work right after they've been installed - because the maintainer ensured that they had some reasonable configuration out of the box - asking a few questions if necessary. |
| 10:26.11 | yos87 | |xo| /info |
| 10:26.13 | dpy | peterS: installation should be extracting files, nothing more nothing less. An installer (dpkg) is to make sure no dependcy or conflict errors apply after installation, a separate tool (apt-conf) should handle configuration (which in turn may for all sakes use debconf) |
| 10:26.28 | dpy | all I say is: don't mix installation and force the configuration at the same time |
| 10:26.48 | peterS | dpy: then by all means set your debconf priority to be 'high'. then use 'dpkg-reconfigure packagename' later to revisit all those questions you thought were a waste of time when you installed the package. |
| 10:27.14 | azeem | dpy: so packages should be shipped broken until the admin decides to run apt-conf? |
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| 10:27.16 | dpy | that's what I do now |
| 10:27.25 | peterS | dpy: if you want a menu-driven interface to 'dpkg-reconfigure', so you can find the packages that *can* be reconfigured, install 'configure-debian' which does exactly that |
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| 10:27.45 | litage | liable: /dev/console exists, so should i run mknod anyways? |
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| 10:27.52 | dpy | what I'd like to see is a cross distribution configuration framework, separated from the packaging system |
| 10:28.12 | Mirrie | peterS, I started inetd and and ps -ef | grep inet shows the inet processes ok but I'm still getting connection refused in SWAT: the connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost:901 |
| 10:28.24 | dpy | with only a few modules that do distribution dependent configuration (like Network interfaces and stuff like that) |
| 10:28.26 | peterS | dpy: I suspect a cross-distribution configuration framework will need to be sufficiently generalized, and spread sufficiently thin, that it will suck as much as webmin already does |
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| 10:28.38 | peterS | dpy: I mean, that's what webmin is, and nobody would ever recommend that |
| 10:28.40 | dpy | e.g. Apache is configured the same way on most systems |
| 10:29.07 | liable | litage: dont see the point if it exists. |
| 10:29.13 | peterS | dpy: that's also what gconf is for a lot of GUI apps, and we hate that too |
| 10:29.29 | litage | liable: is this correct?: crw------- 1 root tty 5, 1 Jan 16 17:10 /dev/console |
| 10:29.30 | Mirrie | peterS, talking about webmin, does it kill SWAT??? |
| 10:29.36 | sini | how do i extract tar.gz with shell?? |
| 10:29.39 | sini | please |
| 10:29.42 | azeem | !tar |
| 10:29.42 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; bar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 10:29.54 | peterS | Mirrie: I don't know anything about webmin except that people who have used it don't have much respect for it |
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| 10:30.16 | Mirrie | why is that, peterS? |
| 10:30.24 | peterS | Mirrie: also, are you sure there is a line in /etc/inetd.conf starting with "swat", no # character? if so, inetd should be listening on port 901, which you report that it is not |
| 10:30.33 | Mirrie | I've just starting exploring webmin |
| 10:30.45 | peterS | Mirrie: which part of "I don't know anything about webmin" was hard for you to understand? |
| 10:31.10 | sini | it aint helpin |
| 10:31.11 | sini | :( |
| 10:31.20 | litage | liable: what did you mean by "maybe try MAKEDEV generic"? |
| 10:32.03 | Diazepam | guys how does one tempoarily stop iptables /etc/init.d/iptables stop ? |
| 10:32.04 | noiesmo | Mirrie, is this in your inetd.conf "swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat" and is swat /usr/sbin/swat |
| 10:32.10 | peterS | litage: meaning, 'cd /dev; MAKEDEV generic' |
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| 10:32.26 | liable | litage: it doesnt matter if /dev/console exists, but man makedev |
| 10:32.34 | Mirrie | yes, noisemo - the same conf worked on another pc |
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| 10:32.47 | noiesmo | Mirrie, np :( |
| 10:32.56 | peterS | Mirrie: almost makes me wonder if your machine actually has xinetd or something installed instead of inetd |
| 10:33.58 | Mirrie | peterS, will check |
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| 10:34.10 | peterS | Mirrie: also check /var/log/syslog to see if inetd complained at all at startup time |
| 10:35.19 | Mirrie | ok, peterS |
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| 10:35.47 | liable | litage: yeah, those perms are the same as for mine. |
| 10:35.55 | litage | thanks liable |
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| 10:37.40 | Mirrie | thanks for your help, peterS |
| 10:37.47 | peterS | np |
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| 10:38.27 | litage | alrighty, just ran ``cd /dev; MAKEDEV -v generic''. going to reboot, see if the kernel starts up, and if not, roll my own. back in a bit. thanks guys and gals |
| 10:38.44 | liable | good luck :) |
| 10:38.52 | sini | thank you ALL 4 ur help, u were great, if i could buy you's all a drink i would |
| 10:38.56 | sini | ;) |
| 10:39.06 | liable | !beer #debian |
| 10:39.10 | liable | :) |
| 10:39.14 | litage | it's not a matter of luck, but a matter of how you swing your beagle |
| 10:39.50 | sini | spaten beer |
| 10:39.58 | sussi | could 1 me post the needed entry to get grub become boot XP from hd0,0 |
| 10:39.59 | sini | is that what u dring in states? |
| 10:40.09 | sini | drink* |
| 10:40.50 | sussi | grub is locatet at sda1 so i had to swap the boot sequence in the bios |
| 10:40.53 | moshii | sussi: the answer is in the documentation |
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| 10:41.06 | sussi | many thanks for meta-answering :( |
| 10:41.09 | deadcat | postfix and sbc/yahoo isp anyone? cant get the damnt hing to work |
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| 10:41.11 | jm_ | sussudio: chainloader |
| 10:41.15 | jm_ | gah |
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| 10:41.22 | moshii | sussi: it's literally copy and paste |
| 10:41.22 | jm_ | sussi: chainloader, read GRUB docs |
| 10:41.56 | sussi | rtfm ?! |
| 10:42.13 | liable | sussi: theres an example in menu.lst that you can copy. |
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| 10:43.52 | sussi | it isnt so easy as it seems |
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| 10:44.01 | mykii | hello |
| 10:44.03 | liable | yes it is |
| 10:44.13 | liable | !hi mykii |
| 10:44.19 | liable | !hi |
| 10:44.19 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 10:44.48 | mykii | i have a problem, i do a shit with my mysql server (into the config files) |
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| 10:45.11 | mykii | i need to debian correct this problem by simply overwriting the existing files |
| 10:45.29 | bbrazil | --force-confmiss iirc |
| 10:45.37 | sussi | i installed testing new (to clean up) , i started to boot net-install-cd from cdrom, installer ask to install grub on first diesk, i denied it cause there is the bootloader from win XP, |
| 10:45.50 | mykii | bbrazil, with apt-get ? |
| 10:46.00 | bbrazil | mykii: dpkg |
| 10:46.08 | mykii | k |
| 10:46.36 | sussi | i told ehm use /dev/sda . thereafter i had to swap again in bios the bootdevice (from cdrom-> scsi) |
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| 10:47.18 | mykii | dpkg install --force-confmiss mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:47.18 | mykii | ? |
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| 10:48.30 | jishin | how to check which sata controller is it |
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| 10:49.42 | jm_ | jishin: dmesg |
| 10:49.50 | jm_ | or lspci |
| 10:50.40 | mykii | bbrazil, man i dont know your option |
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| 10:50.58 | TBBle | But we have that now. |
| 10:50.59 | TBBle | Ooops |
| 10:51.06 | jishin | something like this isn't it |
| 10:51.07 | jishin | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27c0 (rev 01) |
| 10:51.26 | jm_ | run update-pciids |
| 10:51.50 | ricercar | 'Bye all |
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| 10:53.28 | jishin | thx |
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| 10:53.46 | oskie | how do you install debian unstable with the beta boot netinst CD? it complains about a missing /cdrom/dists/sid/Release file... |
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| 10:57.16 | liable | litage: beagle swang the wrong way? |
| 10:57.54 | litage | liable: yeah, came back and smacked me in the face |
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| 10:58.02 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 10:58.02 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 10:58.34 | litage | liable: just mounted the initrd and it and the root fs both contain dev/console: crw------- 1 root tty 5, 1 Jan 1 1970 /tmp/initrdtesting/initrd.dir/dev/console |
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| 10:59.00 | sep | a few users wants to share files on one of my servers. they are 100% green and goes into denial if i mention ftp. what is the easiers way to integrate this into windows ? webdav shared directories or are there other solutions that from the user point of view looks like a drive on his computer. i tried mapping up a ftp area, but it was not transparent enoughf for them. |
| 10:59.40 | vulture | sep: local network, or Internet? |
| 10:59.43 | jm_ | sep: samba? |
| 10:59.51 | sep | vulture, remotes tru internet |
| 11:00.00 | sep | they are not 2 days in a row at the same place |
| 11:00.20 | sep | otherways i'd use samba. |
| 11:00.27 | vulture | jm_: yeah, that's what I'd be thinking - but I've not heard of it being used over the open Internet. |
| 11:00.30 | sep | im considering samba+ vpn or tunnel... |
| 11:00.49 | sep | vulture, need to tunnel it somehow |
| 11:00.57 | vulture | I'd be inclined to use SFTP, tell them to get WinSCP. Not much better than ftp for your green users I suppose, but they'll learn. |
| 11:01.11 | vulture | You can access ftp pretty easily with Internet Explorer - not very magical at all. |
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| 11:01.28 | sep | vulture, they must be able to save and open files directly in aplications winscp is not an option |
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| 11:02.00 | sep | you can't mount unison directories in windows can you ? |
| 11:02.01 | vulture | sep: If they want to share files then having "direct" access is hardly ideal. |
| 11:02.18 | vulture | Some kind of version control type thing would be better.. or they'll end up overwriting each other's work. |
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| 11:02.26 | TBBle | Try samba anyway... The point of CIFS is to work over the 'net as well as LAN... |
| 11:02.42 | cyzie | anybody how to dual boot 2 linux ? |
| 11:02.42 | liable | litage: bugger. last time i looked on google there were lots of questions and not many answers to the problem, seem to be happening a bit lately (remember a few people asking about it here recently) |
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| 11:02.46 | vulture | TurtleSVN isn't hopeless for simple Windows integration. |
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| 11:02.54 | threat | WTF! make-kpkg is being a bitch, complaining that something ios not in the control file or something |
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| 11:03.23 | jm_ | litage: does it find your hardware and mount your /? |
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| 11:03.33 | sep | TBBle, humm you know of a doc elaborating on it ? |
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| 11:03.44 | litage | jm_: i think the reason dev/console isn't found is because / isn't mounted properly |
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| 11:04.21 | jm_ | litage: it should be on initrd first, but then gets re-mounted (pivot_root) on disk |
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| 11:04.34 | jm_ | litage: does it find your disk drives? |
| 11:05.25 | litage | jm_: i'm not sure if it finds the HDs. how can i find out, considering it panics when pivoting? |
| 11:05.41 | jm_ | litage: read the screen? |
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| 11:07.33 | litage | jm_: i saw no mention of HDs |
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| 11:08.01 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 11:08.02 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 11:08.26 | jm_ | litage: are you sure it hasn't scrolled off? |
| 11:08.41 | TBBle | sep: Off the top of my head, just the expansion of the abbreviation... Although the I'm sure it's mentioned in the samba docs... After all, this is part of the MS Internet platform thing. |
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| 11:09.36 | litage | jm_: it might have. if it has, how can i scroll back? |
| 11:09.47 | liable | shift pageup |
| 11:10.25 | jm_ | litage: that didn't work for me two weeks ago - I simply used a larger console |
| 11:10.31 | litage | liable: the system's halted by that time and is unresponsive |
| 11:10.40 | jm_ | indeed |
| 11:11.25 | liable | screwed? :) |
| 11:11.29 | litage | hopefully not |
| 11:11.43 | jm_ | no, just tell it to use higher resolution |
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| 11:12.04 | litage | jm_: how? even setting vga=XXXX in grub's menu.lst doesn't show much more |
| 11:12.47 | jm_ | turned out 4x6 font on 21" LCD in 1280 is unreadable |
| 11:12.54 | jm_ | litage: how good is your monitor? |
| 11:12.58 | liable | litage: try ctrl S as its booting to stop it and read, ctrl q to restart (usually works) |
| 11:13.38 | inetd | jm_: know any good theme sites? |
| 11:13.43 | litage | jm_: 19" old compaq, but supports some decent resolutions (1600x1200+) |
| 11:13.55 | jm_ | inetd: not really |
| 11:14.02 | jm_ | litage: vga=0x307 |
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| 11:14.17 | jm_ | litage: this requires VESA FB support in kernel and mode selection support |
| 11:14.22 | inetd | jm_: thats not good :( |
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| 11:15.09 | litage | jm_: i'll give that a try. which mode is 0x307? |
| 11:15.25 | jm_ | litage: 1280x1024 as per vesafb.txt |
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| 11:16.44 | litage | nice |
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| 11:18.22 | inetd | litage: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/HOWTOS/framebuffer/framebuffer.php |
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| 11:20.58 | litage | thanks for that, inetd |
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| 11:23.22 | inetd | litage: np |
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| 11:24.46 | litage | going to try the framebuffer/resolution trick and see if any other info pops up |
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| 11:28.15 | ichnochmal | german here? |
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| 11:28.42 | TBBle | ichnochmal: Probably. |
| 11:29.00 | jm_ | !de |
| 11:29.00 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 11:29.07 | ichnochmal | thx |
| 11:29.23 | chemaja | !au |
| 11:29.24 | dpkg | au is probably gold. Australia, or a small island with mini-lines when it comes to internet |
| 11:29.27 | chemaja | :) |
| 11:29.50 | liable | man, dpkgs factoids have had a big clean up lately.. :( |
| 11:30.27 | liable | hah, yeah the shitiest net in the pacific.. |
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| 11:30.46 | TBBle | I'm pretty sure I can find a pacific island with worst Internet |
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| 11:31.00 | TBBle | worse |
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| 11:32.05 | liable | well, if you want to be anal, i am sure you could.. :) |
| 11:32.11 | cmvo | Hi! I'm trying to get hotplug to load tulip instead of de4x5 in sarge. de4x5 is already blacklisted, but it seems hotplug loads it anyway... |
| 11:32.16 | chemaja | !anal |
| 11:32.17 | dpkg | i heard anal is a kind of sex, which is very nice for men who love other men.!, or another way to say anal retentive |
| 11:32.29 | TBBle | Tuvulu for example, is disappearing beneath the waves... |
| 11:32.34 | TBBle | Tuvalu, rather |
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| 11:33.16 | ludwig | Hallo! |
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| 11:33.53 | ludwig | I am still having trouble with Windows XP profiles after a new install of the samba server ... |
| 11:34.08 | Eludias | When apt-get installing kdelibs-data 4:3.4.3-2 (testing), it bails out with: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop', which is also in package libdjvulibre15 . How to proceed? |
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| 11:34.24 | litage | jm_: the fb worked and i saw all of the output, though there wasn't much. just putting the relevant stuff into a pastebin now.. |
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| 11:34.26 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 11:34.27 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 11:34.53 | liable | Eludias: check bts, but you could install it with dpkg and appropriate options.. |
| 11:34.59 | weenix | i want to fix my laser printer |
| 11:35.05 | jm_ | me too |
| 11:35.14 | crypt_ex | Whats the simplest command I can execute to find out if swap is being accessed or not? |
| 11:35.19 | Eludias | liable: What's bts? Bug tracking system? Ok, will file! |
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| 11:35.29 | ludwig | The problem is Windows does upload and download the profile, but does not take the changes the user makes to its registry (like "default desktop" or "german keytable") |
| 11:35.53 | liable | Eludias: someone asked about this a day or two ago, so theres prolly a bug there already, and possibly a fix |
| 11:36.07 | litage | jm_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gv1D5L65.html |
| 11:36.15 | Eludias | liable: Will read bts now... |
| 11:36.32 | jm_ | litage: the important bits are the "..." :) |
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| 11:37.12 | litage | jm_: 90% of the "..."s talked about the fb |
| 11:37.16 | valmik | i have upgraded my sarge to debian testing , so i migrated my xserver-xfree to xserver-xorg |
| 11:37.24 | jm_ | litage: are you using sid & yaird? |
| 11:37.30 | valmik | but now i am facing font problem with some app like xmms and xchm |
| 11:37.33 | litage | jm_: just testing |
| 11:37.59 | valmik | on net i searched they says its becoz byte-code interpreter is not compiled in xorg |
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| 11:38.26 | jm_ | litage: check if the relevant module is included in the initrd image |
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| 11:38.35 | litage | jm_: which relevant module? |
| 11:38.42 | jm_ | litage: for your disk controller |
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| 11:38.54 | valmik | but when i do something like nm /usr/lib/libfreetype.a | grep Interp i get 00004a90 t Interp and if i do the same on nm /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a | grep Interp i get similar output |
| 11:39.04 | valmik | then why i am facing font probem ? |
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| 11:39.20 | crypt_ex | Does anyone know if theres a simple command to find out if the swap memory is being accessed, I need this as it will make it easier for me to write this script. |
| 11:39.31 | tarzeau | crypt_ex: free -m |
| 11:39.56 | crypt_ex | oh brilliant, thanks tarzeau |
| 11:40.27 | valmik | crypt_ex, cat /proc/meminfo if wan somthing tough ;) |
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| 11:41.17 | crypt_ex | hehe |
| 11:41.25 | jm_ | litage: run lspci in knoppi |
| 11:41.26 | crypt_ex | simple is the word of the day for me today |
| 11:41.39 | tarzeau | litage: x |
| 11:41.56 | litage | jm_: my disk controller would be this, right?: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03) |
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| 11:42.43 | jm_ | litage: indeed, module is called ahci |
| 11:42.57 | litage | ah |
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| 11:43.32 | liable | litage: does the 2.4 that you installed with boot? |
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| 11:43.52 | ludwig | nobody knows something about Samba and XP profiles? |
| 11:44.06 | jm_ | litage: hopefully you have up-to-date kernel |
| 11:44.53 | johnblade | ludwig whar do u want to know? |
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| 11:45.04 | litage | jm_: 2.6.12-1-686-smp debian package |
| 11:45.06 | corptix | how big is debian and does it have dual boot ? |
| 11:45.24 | valmik | litage, try 2.6.12 the latest one , if u r having ide cdrom drive then be sure that ur ide-generic module will load first |
| 11:45.25 | litage | corptix: debian can be as little as 100-200mb |
| 11:45.26 | resiak | corptix: As big as you want it to be; you can dual boot Debian with $other_os, yes |
| 11:45.27 | jm_ | litage: ok, that's rather old, but I think it has ahci module |
| 11:45.46 | litage | corptix: dual booting isn't specific to debian, but to your boot loader (eg: grub, lilo) |
| 11:45.58 | corptix | but while installing debian form cd boot does it come with grub ? |
| 11:46.07 | liable | yes |
| 11:46.08 | resiak | corptix: Yes. |
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| 11:46.12 | jm_ | yes, it offers you to install GRUB |
| 11:46.17 | litage | corptix: a boot loader will be installed, and debian defaults to grub |
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| 11:46.27 | corptix | and does it use sudo apt-get update ? |
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| 11:46.36 | corptix | is it like ubuntu ? |
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| 11:46.47 | corptix | does it have a desktop ? |
| 11:46.53 | johnblade | corptix oh dear god |
| 11:46.56 | ludwig | johnblade, I set up the server here from scratch again, and reconfigured Samba. Everything works fine, even XP logons. |
| 11:47.03 | Shadowcat | !tell corptix about ubuntu |
| 11:47.09 | streuner | corptix: what do you think where we live? |
| 11:47.14 | litage | jm_: /boot/config-2.6.12-1-686-smp contains this: CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_AHCI=m |
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| 11:47.23 | klinick | hey |
| 11:47.26 | corptix | dude its a question |
| 11:47.27 | streuner | corptix: google for 'screenshots debian' |
| 11:47.29 | litage | jm_: does it matter that AHCI isn't built into the initrd? |
| 11:47.32 | jm_ | litage: right, is it included in the initrd image and des it get loaded at boot? |
| 11:47.35 | jm_ | litage: yes ;) |
| 11:47.41 | Shadowcat | corptix: here's an idea, GO READ THE DOCUMENTATION |
| 11:47.47 | resiak | corptix: It has a desktop if you want it to; it uses sudo if you want it to. |
| 11:47.47 | Shadowcat | debian has tons of documentation |
| 11:47.48 | klinick | how to send message in console (using command) to user? |
| 11:47.50 | Shadowcat | GO READ IT |
| 11:47.55 | resiak | klinick: wall |
| 11:48.01 | Shadowcat | if you don't want to read, go back to Windows, because you'll never survive in Linux |
| 11:48.18 | streuner | even in windows you have to learn |
| 11:48.20 | ludwig | johnblade, problem is XP up- and downloads the users profile, but the user's settings are not taken! So the users get the english keymapping after a login even if they changed the setting the session before! |
| 11:48.27 | klinick | wall ? |
| 11:48.34 | streuner | klinick: man wall |
| 11:48.39 | Shadowcat | streuner: well Microsoft is working on that part |
| 11:48.52 | Shadowcat | everytime you buy Windows you pay $300 for dumbing yourself down to point click |
| 11:48.59 | litage | jm_: the loadmodules file in the initrd doesn't modprobe ahci. shall i add this to the loadmodules file?: modprobe -k ahci |
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| 11:49.11 | corptix | ok wheres the link for debian ? |
| 11:49.13 | Shadowcat | most people these days would get lost if they saw cmd in full screen |
| 11:49.19 | resiak | corptix: debian.org |
| 11:49.21 | streuner | !d-i corptix |
| 11:49.22 | dpkg | corptix, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:49.22 | litage | corptix: debian.org |
| 11:49.29 | streuner | corptix: /msg dpkg ig |
| 11:49.33 | streuner | corptix: as well |
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| 11:49.35 | Shadowcat | corptix: you can find an IRC channel but you can't find a website? |
| 11:49.36 | klinick | but wall sends to everybody, but I want to send to ONE of users |
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| 11:49.51 | corptix | Shadowcat why u being cocky for ? |
| 11:49.57 | Shadowcat | corptix: you remind me of the people in the Windows channel that I op who come in only to be told to read a help file |
| 11:50.09 | Shadowcat | corptix: because you're asking really STUPID questions, Windows stupid |
| 11:50.14 | corptix | dude this channel must forfill your day |
| 11:50.15 | jm_ | litage: it won't help if the module itself is not included in the image |
| 11:50.31 | litage | jm_: how can i manually include the module in the image? |
| 11:50.35 | corptix | also whats the link for the full installion? |
| 11:50.39 | resiak | !d-i corptix |
| 11:50.40 | dpkg | corptix, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:50.41 | corptix | im a newbie |
| 11:50.44 | Shadowcat | !tell corptix about RTFM |
| 11:50.45 | resiak | *plonk* *plonk* |
| 11:50.48 | Stranger_ | so am i |
| 11:50.50 | streuner | !tell corptix about ig |
| 11:50.57 | johnblade | ludwig ok you've got a problem with roaming profiles - the easiest way to solve that is to disable it in samba. logon path = |
| 11:51.00 | jm_ | litage: several ways, man mkinitrd explains it |
| 11:51.02 | Shadowcat | !beat corptix |
| 11:51.10 | corptix | !tell all to stfu |
| 11:51.15 | corptix | im new and i admit it |
| 11:51.19 | Stranger_ | !tell me about newbie |
| 11:51.20 | Shadowcat | all No such nick/channel |
| 11:51.20 | sussi | is to say "read the fucking manual" even as FTFM rude????!!! |
| 11:51.21 | johnblade | ludwig put "logon path =" in your smb.conf |
| 11:51.22 | ludwig | johnblade, this is not an option |
| 11:51.27 | jm_ | litage: i.e. simply add it to the "modules" file |
| 11:51.32 | Shadowcat | corptix: then read the bloody documentation when we tell you to |
| 11:51.37 | sussi | *rtfm |
| 11:51.39 | corptix | which one ? |
| 11:51.50 | Shadowcat | !tell corptix about read |
| 11:51.51 | corptix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.51 | Stranger_ | !rtfm |
| 11:51.51 | dpkg | [rtfm] Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] or Read Their Fucking Minds. |
| 11:51.55 | Shadowcat | !read |
| 11:51.56 | dpkg | read is, like, what no one does these days, especially ex-redhat users who expect EVERYTHING to appear infront of them without fuss. or what you must do in order to learn. 'man <something>', 'apropos <something>', or check out the files in /usr/share/doc/<PACKAGE> |
| 11:51.58 | Shadowcat | !d-i |
| 11:51.59 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 11:52.01 | Shadowcat | !ig |
| 11:52.02 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 11:52.02 | johnblade | ludwig oh u want roaming profiles... well then you will need to assign directories for each person |
| 11:52.05 | Shadowcat | !newbie |
| 11:52.06 | dpkg | it has been said that newbie is someone who is new to linux or debian, and should read the docs (/usr/share/doc/) |
| 11:52.09 | streuner | Shadowcat: stop |
| 11:52.13 | litage | jm_: ah, so i just need to put "ahci" in /etc/mkinitrd/modules and then regenerate the initrd |
| 11:52.18 | Shadowcat | streuner: well maybe this way he'll get a clue |
| 11:52.19 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 11:52.23 | jm_ | litage: if it reads that then yes |
| 11:52.30 | sussi | by the way : these are tons of nonrelevant docs ! |
| 11:52.31 | johnblade | ludwig you should read up on roaming profiles in samba then, although it is a lot easier to simply disable them |
| 11:52.35 | streuner | Shadowcat: he don't get a clue if you flooding the channel |
| 11:52.45 | Shadowcat | streuner: you'd be surprised actually |
| 11:52.46 | Shadowcat | :/ |
| 11:52.48 | litage | jm_: btw, should ``locate ahci'' return anything? |
| 11:52.50 | ludwig | johnblade, the profiles were there and still are there from the previous configuration |
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| 11:53.08 | sep | litage, you did updatedb ? |
| 11:53.11 | litage | yes |
| 11:53.12 | johnblade | ludwig oh ok, i thought it was a new system altogether |
| 11:53.13 | sussi | i would suggest , that if u start to state rtfm give a link or a hint what doc is ment |
| 11:53.16 | klinick | streuner -> I'd like to send message to one user, no all can u tell me command? |
| 11:53.23 | Shadowcat | streuner: some people (especially Windows users) don't get it unless you tell them 20 times |
| 11:53.27 | jm_ | litage: you're in Knoppix now, aren't you? |
| 11:53.34 | resiak | Shadowcat: You're not helping by hurling factoids at him. |
| 11:53.36 | corptix | Shadowcat i want to install debian all of it and i dont know which one to download |
| 11:53.39 | litage | jm_: yes, but chroot'd to the HD |
| 11:53.41 | ludwig | johnblade, in fact, the "Own files" and "Desktop" directories are up- and downloaded quite fine - just with the user settings it is a mess |
| 11:53.47 | Shadowcat | corptix: then read the installation guide |
| 11:53.48 | Shadowcat | enjoy |
| 11:53.49 | jm_ | litage: find /lib/modules|grep ahci |
| 11:53.51 | sep | litage, does on etch 2.6 atlest |
| 11:53.58 | johnblade | ludwig ahh i c |
| 11:54.03 | Shadowcat | sussi: the thing is that if you're starting out in Linux, you shouldn't be installing debian |
| 11:54.05 | corptix | !gi |
| 11:54.06 | dpkg | well, gi is Gibraltar |
| 11:54.10 | corptix | !ig |
| 11:54.11 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 11:54.19 | litage | jm_: hrm, i wonder why locate didn't find it |
| 11:54.22 | sussi | i use it since 3 years at least |
| 11:54.29 | Shadowcat | sussi: debian isn't the most n00b friendly |
| 11:54.36 | corptix | Shadowcat : which one do i pick ? |
| 11:54.39 | streuner | klinick: man write (try that then) |
| 11:54.40 | jm_ | litage: DB not up to date - anyway, make sure MODULES setting is the right one too |
| 11:54.41 | corptix | ARM ? |
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| 11:54.42 | sussi | not anymore |
| 11:54.45 | corptix | MIPS ? |
| 11:54.47 | klinick | thx |
| 11:54.48 | Shadowcat | sussi: so if you REALLY do want to install it, expect to be reading a lot of documentation |
| 11:54.56 | Coweater | corptix: probably i386 |
| 11:55.00 | streuner | corptix: some other CPU |
| 11:55.01 | Shadowcat | corptix: I'm just not going to tell you, if you want to install debian, read the installer guide |
| 11:55.01 | corptix | Ok |
| 11:55.07 | corptix | dude |
| 11:55.09 | johnblade | ludwig, do u mean that programs aren't working or something |
| 11:55.12 | corptix | u told me to read |
| 11:55.18 | streuner | !u |
| 11:55.18 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 11:55.20 | sussi | my point is; just to say rtfm is in my opinion very rude, i got this meta answer several times |
| 11:55.21 | corptix | but u didnt tell me what to read. |
| 11:55.22 | Shadowcat | corptix: yup and you're still not reading |
| 11:55.25 | resiak | corptix: Please stop hitting enter every five words. It makes you hard to help. |
| 11:55.32 | corptix | Ok |
| 11:55.33 | litage | jm_: brb, going to try out the new initrd |
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| 11:56.05 | sussi | esp for grub (what i ask 1 hour) the docs are incomplete and partiall wrong |
| 11:56.11 | corptix | now im on http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and theres heaps of options MIPS,ARM and such more |
| 11:56.14 | Shadowcat | sussi: info grub |
| 11:56.14 | jm_ | sussudio: no and no |
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| 11:56.18 | corptix | which one do i click ? |
| 11:56.19 | jm_ | damn it |
| 11:56.25 | streuner | corptix: just choose i386 |
| 11:56.27 | resiak | corptix: If you use a regular PC, i386 |
| 11:56.29 | jm_ | sussudio: sorry |
| 11:56.30 | sussi | that sound better than ftfm |
| 11:56.35 | Shadowcat | sussi: that IS RTFM |
| 11:56.36 | ludwig | johnblade, I mean if the user sets up the "classic" desktop, after a relogin the desktop is wrong again |
| 11:56.45 | corptix | there is no "i386" ? |
| 11:56.50 | Coweater | x86 |
| 11:56.55 | sussi | sry my keyboard is bad |
| 11:57.04 | [Elvis] | how can I found out where debian mounted my dvd ? |
| 11:57.05 | corptix | Installation Manual for Intel x86 ? |
| 11:57.09 | Coweater | why are they calling the release x86 in some places and i386 elsewhere? |
| 11:57.18 | Shadowcat | sometimes I wonder how people manage to drag themselves to an IRC client |
| 11:57.22 | johnblade | ludwig, however you say that it saves files on the desktop and mydocuments, etc on the server and on the desktop ? |
| 11:57.26 | Shadowcat | but can't read a webpage |
| 11:57.28 | resiak | Coweater: They're probably not. _I'm_ calling it i386. |
| 11:57.32 | Shadowcat | Coweater: it's for the etch transition |
| 11:57.38 | Shadowcat | x86, x64 |
| 11:57.40 | klinick | hmm :-)] |
| 11:57.41 | streuner | Coweater: i386 isn't i686? |
| 11:57.43 | Shadowcat | that'd be my guess anyway |
| 11:57.43 | ludwig | johnblade, yes, it does - just the user settings do not ... |
| 11:57.58 | klinick | I dont know how to use "write" ;] ;] ;] |
| 11:57.58 | Shadowcat | but as resiak said, I could be wrong |
| 11:58.13 | ludwig | johnblade, strange enough, it's everywhere the localized german WindowsXP version but the users get english keymapping ... |
| 11:58.13 | sussi | cause im often threaded as a n00b: i can say to get the answer RTFM feels very rude without to get a hint what kind of manual i shoull f. |
| 11:58.14 | resiak | klinick: man write |
| 11:58.15 | Coweater | resiak: they are, on the netinstall page they link to i386, but the install manuals are all x86 |
| 11:58.22 | resiak | Coweater: *shrug* |
| 11:58.33 | johnblade | ludwig ok you should check the logs of the clients and see what error's pop up |
| 11:58.34 | klinick | hehe man doesn't help me :P |
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| 11:58.37 | ludwig | johnblade, do You know whether Samba has its "own" Registry somewhere ... |
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| 11:58.59 | klinick | write user_name text doesn't work :P |
| 11:59.03 | Shadowcat | sussi: most of us here also develop debian, if we spent every waking minute tutoring people we wouldn't get any coding done |
| 11:59.11 | johnblade | ludwig it doesn't have a registery persay - it does have databases though (tdb's). |
| 11:59.16 | corptix | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/ <-- is that what i gotta download ? |
| 11:59.19 | Shadowcat | sussi: now if you paid us to fix your machine for you, obviously we'd be A LOT more helpful |
| 11:59.29 | johnblade | ludwig, probably won't help you in this though, roaming profiles are mostly winxp desktop things |
| 11:59.34 | Shadowcat | sussi: you get what you pay for, and in this case you aren't paying, so just be happy we're here |
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| 11:59.50 | corptix | ? |
| 11:59.56 | resiak | klinick: Probably because that's not what man write tells you to do. You run `write user_name`, type the message, then hit ctrl-d to end |
| 12:00.01 | [Elvis] | how can I found out what device my dvd is on? |
| 12:00.08 | ludwig | johnblade, nothing special, just a "Event 1517: The registry of user X was savedalthough an application or a service was accessing it" ... so I installed a patch from Microsoft ("UPHCLEAN") |
| 12:00.14 | Shadowcat | and people would sure as hell be a lot more loudmouth if we broke libc6 every two months |
| 12:00.32 | corptix | debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso theres of 15 images |
| 12:00.36 | sussi | i would be happy if u read it tomorrow again and think about it again |
| 12:00.39 | corptix | do i download them all ? |
| 12:00.39 | Coweater | corptix: read over http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ it explains the difference between a full cd set and a net installer image |
| 12:00.44 | streuner | corptix: no |
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| 12:00.59 | streuner | corptix: as we said this about 10 times, read ig |
| 12:01.06 | ludwig | johnblade, another error is about something about "Active Directory 0x8007054b" |
| 12:01.11 | Shadowcat | corptix: let's just put it this way, if you're not gonna read, most people will just not help you |
| 12:01.17 | corptix | how hard is your fucking job just give me the link to download the dam thing and install it |
| 12:01.26 | Shadowcat | corptix: it's not out job |
| 12:01.29 | klinick | ok it works :-) |
| 12:01.30 | streuner | corptix: we did |
| 12:01.30 | Shadowcat | we do this on our free time |
| 12:01.31 | sussi | corptix: debian is not just a programm, its ways more, I suggest to use the net-installer |
| 12:01.32 | klinick | thanks :P |
| 12:01.32 | corptix | instead u waste ur time typing thing i dont have to know |
| 12:01.34 | sussudio | !bear jm_ |
| 12:01.44 | Shadowcat | corptix: ok how about this |
| 12:01.45 | corptix | omg. |
| 12:01.51 | Shadowcat | everyone just add corptix to ignore |
| 12:01.54 | Shadowcat | let's see how far he gets |
| 12:01.54 | S4nD3r | My keyboard works fine in textmode, but in gnome, its crazy... How solve it {{}}} |
| 12:02.19 | Shadowcat | !beat resiak |
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| 12:02.39 | corptix | question can i use it on a dvd-r cd ? |
| 12:02.40 | ludwig | Seems it was a problem with the computer's name ... |
| 12:02.44 | sussi | i have few sugestinons about grub and installer, where is a good place to write it down? |
| 12:02.59 | corptix | or does it have to be a CD-R ? |
| 12:03.03 | Shadowcat | sussi: umm I believe they're switching to anaconda |
| 12:03.17 | Shadowcat | I could be wrong though, I don't track the debian-devel mailing list that closely |
| 12:03.33 | Shadowcat | well... anaconda for x86 and x64 anyway |
| 12:03.50 | portix | well Shadowcat ? |
| 12:03.59 | Coweater | portix: there are dvd images available if you want the whole distro, but you probably only need the netinstall which is cd only |
| 12:04.16 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 12:04.21 | sussi | i trapped in a couple of problem , because i told the installer to install grub not to the first hd, than to /dev/sda |
| 12:04.25 | klinick | What are u doing now ? :P |
| 12:04.42 | Shadowcat | sussi: you see, that isn't the installer's fault, that's YOUR fault |
| 12:04.44 | portix | nah what i meant was i dont have CD-R atm and got DVD-R so can i download it and burn it to a dvd cd ? |
| 12:04.52 | Shadowcat | and info grub tells you how to reinstall the grub boot loader |
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| 12:05.11 | sussi | i wrote trap not fault |
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| 12:05.27 | streuner | portix: DVD-R's are able to read CD's as well? |
| 12:05.31 | Shadowcat | sussi: so all you have to do is read info grub, which tells you how to put the installer in the right place |
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| 12:05.53 | S4nD3r | Where to setup manually my keymap }}} |
| 12:05.59 | sussi | fault is in grub help map, because it says map TO_DRIVE FROM_DRIVE |
| 12:05.59 | portix | streuner i dont know |
| 12:06.04 | streuner | portix: you don't need to download 2 DVD's |
| 12:06.05 | S4nD3r | Where to setup manually my keymap ??? |
| 12:06.07 | sussi | i did to be sure |
| 12:06.11 | streuner | portix: yes they are |
| 12:06.16 | Shadowcat | S4nD3r: don't repeat |
| 12:06.17 | jm_ | S4nD3r: /msg dpkg keymap |
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| 12:06.21 | sussi | urgh |
| 12:06.29 | streuner | portix: so just download d-i (debian installer) which is about 100-140 MB |
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| 12:06.42 | portix | yeah.. ? |
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| 12:07.00 | streuner | portix: if you have newer hardware try etch installer (normal or beta) |
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| 12:07.11 | Shadowcat | streuner: you want this guy on etch? |
| 12:07.15 | Shadowcat | are you bloody insane? |
| 12:07.16 | fhffhqvb | Shadowcat: grevling |
| 12:07.19 | sussi | the command map (from) grub mao form ->to ? |
| 12:07.23 | portix | dude dont abuse me |
| 12:07.34 | streuner | Shadowcat: d-i (sarge) should work ;-) |
| 12:07.38 | portix | well i am sorry for being a cunt |
| 12:07.48 | liable | hah |
| 12:07.50 | portix | even rude.. |
| 12:07.53 | portix | or a fag |
| 12:07.54 | Shadowcat | streuner: if he happens to know what /dev/hda means |
| 12:07.59 | resiak | !fag |
| 12:07.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, fag is slang for a cigarette |
| 12:08.02 | sussi | portix please! |
| 12:08.14 | portix | ? |
| 12:08.15 | resiak | portix: Why are you being a cigarette? |
| 12:08.23 | portix | hahaha |
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| 12:08.29 | portix | forget it.. i give up |
| 12:08.30 | fhffhqvb | !dict fag |
| 12:08.31 | dpkg | Dictionary 'fag' (5 of 15): Read, fag, and subdue this chapter. --Coleridge. ;; act as a servant for older boys, in British public schools ;; 3. To act as a fag, or perform menial services or drudgery, for another, as in some English schools. ;; work hard; "She was digging away at her math homework"; "Lexicographers drudge all day long" ;; finely ground tobacco wrapped in paper; for smoking. |
| 12:08.49 | portix | well i said sorry but i duno if Shadowrat will forgive me |
| 12:08.56 | portix | *Shadowcat |
| 12:09.03 | sussi | portix lets go direct chat, accept it |
| 12:09.04 | streuner | portix: one thing, we gave you serveral hints to read, you didn't read one thing of them |
| 12:09.12 | portix | direct chat ? |
| 12:09.20 | sep | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 12:09.21 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 12:09.22 | portix | well i am not a good reader |
| 12:09.24 | Shadowcat | sussi: I doubt he knows what ctcp/dcc is |
| 12:09.31 | sep | the installer with 2.6.14 is also a solution on too new hardware |
| 12:09.34 | portix | dcc chat. |
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| 12:09.37 | streuner | portix: you could try |
| 12:09.56 | portix | yeah likei droped out in year 9 |
| 12:10.04 | portix | i have no education |
| 12:10.10 | Shadowcat | as I said in the beginning portix, if you don't want to read, then go back to Windows, because you won't last in Linux |
| 12:10.21 | portix | aight give me the link again |
| 12:10.30 | Shadowcat | it's THAT simple, you may not like to hear it, but that's the truth |
| 12:10.37 | streuner | portix: scroll up |
| 12:10.39 | Shadowcat | portix: no, I gave you the link twice, scroll up and find it again |
| 12:10.43 | portix | btw what os was kevin mitnick using ? |
| 12:10.46 | portix | k |
| 12:11.18 | klinick | portix : Microsoft Dos with windows 3.11 :P |
| 12:11.26 | klinick | it was in movie :D |
| 12:11.35 | portix | nah |
| 12:11.35 | Shadowcat | heh MS-DOS |
| 12:11.40 | sussi | portix klick on the field at the bottom with says portix |
| 12:12.07 | portix | u havent seen the other one he made. |
| 12:12.07 | portix | it was linux. |
| 12:12.07 | portix | hackers 2 takedown |
| 12:12.07 | Shadowcat | full CP/M was actually pretty decent back in the day, too bad Microsoft had to screw it all up |
| 12:12.13 | Shadowcat | they ripped out multiuser support to create a crappy cheap copy of it |
| 12:12.19 | [Elvis] | ok here comes a very silly question...is it possible to remove the login ? |
| 12:12.21 | portix | Shadowcat u wanted me to read this link http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 12:12.26 | Shadowcat | actually they didn't even do that, they bought a crappy copy of CP/M |
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| 12:12.34 | Coweater | microsoft screwed nothing up, cp/m's owner wasn't receptive to ibm's needs and they bought ms's dos |
| 12:12.36 | jm_ | [Elvis]: you mean an user? |
| 12:12.51 | portix | Shadowcat / |
| 12:12.53 | portix | ? |
| 12:13.02 | [Elvis] | well I have install mythtv..and when I start the pc ...I want it to automatically start mythtv..and don';t ask for userbame/password and shit |
| 12:13.07 | Shadowcat | Coweater: yes but Microsoft's copy of CP/M compared to true CP/M is like comparing Linux 1.0 to 2.6 |
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| 12:13.14 | Shadowcat | it's lightyears apart |
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| 12:13.19 | andre_r | hi |
| 12:13.26 | portix | Shadowcat u wanted me to read this link http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ ??? |
| 12:13.31 | jm_ | some display managers have the option for auto-login |
| 12:13.37 | harm1988 | whats a good controll panel, so i can easily set up hosting and stuff ? |
| 12:13.45 | Shadowcat | jm_: specifically, kdm, gdm |
| 12:13.49 | SimonRaven | none |
| 12:13.54 | streuner | !ops can we get rid of this troll (portix)? |
| 12:13.55 | [Elvis] | I use xfree86 jm_ |
| 12:13.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can we get rid of this troll (portix) |
| 12:13.59 | Shadowcat | harm1988: depends, how much money do we have? |
| 12:14.02 | portix | why is he ignoring me ffs |
| 12:14.04 | Shadowcat | we = you |
| 12:14.06 | jm_ | [Elvis]: sure, see what Shadowcat said |
| 12:14.07 | sussi | ignore ehm |
| 12:14.17 | portix | sussi do i read this link http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ ? |
| 12:14.23 | harm1988 | Shadowcar.. we have 0$ cuz we are cheap bastids who rather attempt to buy more ram |
| 12:14.35 | Shadowcat | harm1988: then you won't get a websystem |
| 12:14.38 | klinick | Mitnick didn't use OS's He used mind :P |
| 12:14.41 | Shadowcat | cpanel costs an arm and a leg |
| 12:14.42 | klinick | and manipulation |
| 12:14.42 | sussi | i think that in gub the comand map is wrong explained |
| 12:14.43 | klinick | telephones ;] |
| 12:14.46 | SimonRaven | ever heard of tab completion? |
| 12:14.52 | Shadowcat | sussi: that's not our problem, we don't write info grub |
| 12:14.54 | kjoonlee | Hi, how do I get dpkg-reconfigure to work again if I've manually edited xorg.conf? |
| 12:14.58 | Shadowcat | so stop whining about it in here |
| 12:14.59 | harm1988 | Shadowcat.. cpanel is therefor not an options.. |
| 12:15.02 | portix | am i a ghost or somthing |
| 12:15.03 | portix | ? |
| 12:15.04 | kjoonlee | I can't find the factoid |
| 12:15.08 | SimonRaven | kjoonlee: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 12:15.09 | jm_ | kjon;read the top of the file -- /msg dpkg x md5 |
| 12:15.10 | portix | do i read this link http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 12:15.11 | [Elvis] | where can I find information about autologin Shadowcat ? |
| 12:15.12 | streuner | kjoonlee: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 12:15.14 | harm1988 | Shadowcat does this panel look good? http://www.thezpanel.com/ |
| 12:15.26 | kjoonlee | SimonRaven: Ah, thank you :) |
| 12:15.27 | Shadowcat | harm1988: I don't use web based solutions to setup my hosting |
| 12:15.32 | streuner | kjoonlee: oh, you prolly fscked the md5sum too... |
| 12:15.33 | Shadowcat | harm1988: and if I did I'd code it myself |
| 12:15.34 | sussi | i understand, i want to help with that issue. how? |
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| 12:15.43 | Shadowcat | sussi: go read info grub |
| 12:15.48 | Shadowcat | I know you haven't read it |
| 12:15.52 | Shadowcat | so I won't help you any further |
| 12:16.00 | portix | lalalalaa |
| 12:16.05 | streuner | kjoonlee: /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 12:16.14 | harm1988 | Shadowcat.. iam very very noob at linux i started with it like friday :P |
| 12:16.21 | sep | [Elvis], on the very first hit of the google search for mythtv setup autologin |
| 12:16.23 | Shadowcat | harm1988: then you have a problem |
| 12:16.26 | harm1988 | i dinally got apache2 working wth namevhosts |
| 12:16.38 | harm1988 | shadowcat.. ^^ yah thats why iam asking for help |
| 12:16.42 | [Elvis] | thanks sep |
| 12:16.44 | sussi | i red it already as well the help what is build in into grub (help map) : and i got the right solution |
| 12:16.53 | Shadowcat | harm1988: you either have cash, or you learn half a dozen languages |
| 12:16.56 | Shadowcat | pick one |
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| 12:17.13 | arpa- | /etc/shadow uses salt ? |
| 12:17.25 | sussi | i find 3 points which for my opinion are wrong, my concern is to share it |
| 12:17.26 | harm1988 | Shadowcat: i pick ... getting a premade panel :P |
| 12:17.38 | Shadowcat | sussi: as I said already, WE DON'T WRITE INFO GRUB |
| 12:17.49 | Shadowcat | sussi: so WHINE to the grub authors |
| 12:17.50 | Shadowcat | NOT us |
| 12:18.00 | Shadowcat | sheesh, I hate to use caps, but seriously, GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD |
| 12:18.10 | streuner | portix: Don't MSG me! |
| 12:18.20 | sussi | okay |
| 12:18.22 | portix | why arnt you gay |
| 12:18.38 | harm1988 | lol |
| 12:18.40 | [Elvis] | what does WM stand for? |
| 12:18.46 | harm1988 | WithMan |
| 12:18.54 | Skrot | Hi. I've created a brige (br0) between my ethernet (eth0, connected to ISP) and wireless (wlan0, master/AP). None of the devices (br0, eth0, wlan0) has a IP. When I connect the wlan (the box with the bridge) from my laptop, I get DHCP-info from my ISP, but I can't ping the gateway (nor access the internet). What could be wrong here? |
| 12:19.03 | streuner | [Elvis]: /msg dpkg wm |
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| 12:19.10 | [Elvis] | window manager? |
| 12:19.15 | streuner | [Elvis]: and change the nick, i got eyecancer |
| 12:19.18 | streuner | yes |
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| 12:19.46 | sep | Skrot, your isp require pppoe or lock on mac address perhaps ? |
| 12:20.01 | Shadowcat | sep: ack I hate those types of isps |
| 12:20.01 | Skrot | sep: nope, it's ethernet (university) |
| 12:20.06 | streuner | !nickometer [Elvis] |
| 12:20.07 | sep | Shad0wcat, me too |
| 12:20.08 | dpkg | '[Elvis]' is 10.000% lame, streuner |
| 12:20.16 | Shadowcat | if you happen to change your nic you gotta call ISP support and have them reset it |
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| 12:20.46 | kbrooks | question: (i know this program is windows-only, but i'm wondering) |
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| 12:21.10 | kbrooks | does this license make hydrairc nonfree: http://www.hydrairc.com/index.php?page=developers |
| 12:21.28 | Shadowcat | hydrairc is a pos |
| 12:21.33 | doubleukay_ | hmm, quick question - how do i configure anti-aliasing settings for firefox? should i use the gnome control panel? |
| 12:21.34 | Shadowcat | and yes, it's non-free |
| 12:21.39 | sep | Skrot, brctl showmac br0 verify you see mac of gateway on the eth0 side and laptop on wifi side. and brctl show br0 that both interfaces are in the bridge |
| 12:21.51 | Shadowcat | there's no such thing as a quick question |
| 12:21.52 | arpa- | were the hashes in /etc/shadow hashed with salt ? |
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| 12:22.02 | Shadowcat | arpa-: here's an idea, man /etc/shadow |
| 12:22.14 | kbrooks | why is it a pos? |
| 12:22.16 | arpa- | i don't like that idea |
| 12:22.21 | noid | when i turn on my laptop the fan gets disconnected as soon as i start booting linux (2.6.8), how do i fix that? |
| 12:22.25 | sep | Skrot, and while pinging gateway use tcpdump to see if pings are send nd or recived and if they are rewritten in any way and check logs for packageloss or firewall drops |
| 12:22.26 | kbrooks | Shad0wcat, no, man shadow is the right one |
| 12:22.38 | Shadowcat | kbrooks: ok man shadow then, but he gets the picture |
| 12:22.50 | Shadowcat | noid: umm why do you want to fix that? |
| 12:22.53 | Shadowcat | it's SUPPOSED to do that |
| 12:22.57 | Skrot | sep: There's no firewalling (yet). But I'll try the other stuff :) |
| 12:23.02 | Shadowcat | laptops aren't supposed to have fans running 24/7 |
| 12:23.08 | noid | Shadowcat: nope, it NEVER turnss on again |
| 12:23.19 | Shadowcat | noid: that's because it doesn't need to |
| 12:23.39 | portix | ok lets start all over again |
| 12:23.46 | portix | hi i wanna install debian |
| 12:23.54 | noid | Shadowcat: ah, so the hang ups due to overheating are normal, then? d-: |
| 12:24.02 | kbrooks | yeah? and? |
| 12:24.04 | Shadowcat | noid: what chipset? |
| 12:24.23 | Shadowcat | kbrooks: portix has been here an hour and he's been told at least 30 times, just ignore him |
| 12:24.24 | portix | l... |
| 12:24.30 | streuner | *plonk* |
| 12:24.35 | portix | hour? |
| 12:24.38 | portix | dude can u even count |
| 12:24.48 | portix | its been half an hour. |
| 12:24.51 | SimonRaven | portix: so go install it, and plsstfukthxbye |
| 12:24.54 | noid | Shadowcat: Intel Corp. 82845 845, that'swhat lspci says |
| 12:25.05 | portix | wow |
| 12:25.06 | Shadowcat | [2006-01-16][12:46:37] <corptix> and does it use sudo apt-get update ? |
| 12:25.07 | kbrooks | portix, analysing brain .. 10 percent complete. 20 percent complete. 100 percent complete. |
| 12:25.08 | kbrooks | done. |
| 12:25.11 | Shadowcat | [2006-01-16][13:25:15] <portix> wow |
| 12:25.13 | kbrooks | result: |
| 12:25.14 | portix | so elite kthxbye |
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| 12:25.20 | Shadowcat | ok I stand corrected, 46 min |
| 12:25.22 | kbrooks | LAMER |
| 12:25.23 | [Elvis] | if I don't have rc.conf ...which file should I store it in then? |
| 12:25.26 | Shadowcat | err 44 min |
| 12:25.38 | portix | lol @ lamer how am i lame |
| 12:25.44 | portix | im asking for help here and im lame |
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| 12:25.51 | kbrooks | portix, are you using ubuntu? |
| 12:25.55 | Shadowcat | portix: well you've gotten the whole channel populace to ignore you |
| 12:25.56 | portix | NO |
| 12:25.57 | kbrooks | if so RTFT |
| 12:25.58 | portix | YOU MORON |
| 12:25.59 | portix | NO |
| 12:26.05 | portix | im on xp right now. |
| 12:26.08 | SimonRaven | portix: for spending and wasting time here after having been told where to find info, and not actually using it |
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| 12:26.22 | portix | .. |
| 12:26.28 | SimonRaven | *that's* lame |
| 12:26.31 | portix | Shadowcat didnt give me any links |
| 12:26.33 | SimonRaven | bubye |
| 12:26.36 | portix | ur an idiot. |
| 12:26.38 | portix | also ur lame. |
| 12:26.43 | kbrooks | wtf? |
| 12:26.44 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 12:26.45 | Shadowcat | !ops |
| 12:26.45 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 12:26.48 | noid | !ur |
| 12:26.48 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 12:26.49 | portix | Simon sayz stfu |
| 12:26.51 | SimonRaven | /ig -replies portix |
| 12:26.58 | Shadowcat | hahaha |
| 12:27.08 | portix | Simon sayz hes gay |
| 12:27.14 | portix | Simon sayz touch urself |
| 12:27.19 | portix | lame lame lame |
| 12:27.21 | Shadowcat | portix: ya you're so gonna get help by doing that |
| 12:27.35 | portix | but. |
| 12:27.41 | portix | i asked for help also i said sorry |
| 12:27.45 | kbrooks | portix, |
| 12:27.49 | kbrooks | portix, pm me |
| 12:27.58 | portix | why u wanna have cybersex |
| 12:27.59 | SimonRaven | using your lack of schooling is bullshit. school != education. school just gives you pieces of paper nowadays |
| 12:28.02 | Shadowcat | kbrooks: heh you're not actually gonna help him are you? |
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| 12:28.10 | Shadowcat | he's not worth it |
| 12:28.12 | [Elvis] | hm |
| 12:28.14 | portix | lol |
| 12:28.15 | noid | Shadowcat: any idea about the fan, then? is it possible to dabble with the acpi thing? |
| 12:28.16 | kbrooks | Shad0wcat, in another channel |
| 12:28.24 | portix | then what is this channel about if it sint for helping |
| 12:28.34 | Shadowcat | portix: ok I'm sick of your verbal abuse |
| 12:28.42 | SimonRaven | noid: if your chipset there doesn't support it, not much you can do |
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| 12:28.56 | SimonRaven | though i've only seen that ^^ |
| 12:28.57 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me what file to edit if I don't have rc.conf ? |
| 12:29.03 | Shadowcat | noid: what processor? |
| 12:29.06 | TBBle | Oh man, I look away to watch a movie, and a fight breaks out.... |
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| 12:29.26 | Skrot | sep: brctl showmacs br0 show mac of both eth0 and wlan0 (this is on the server). After I've got DHCP on the laptop (eth1) and type "route" it takes like 30 secs to get the default gw info |
| 12:29.32 | kats | portix: I kept my butt in my pants, and I got quick and accurate help |
| 12:29.39 | SimonRaven | hardly. he's being ignored by half the active channel denizens |
| 12:29.40 | Shadowcat | TBBle: portix doesn't realize that any one of us has the knowledge to make his Internet experience a real pain |
| 12:29.41 | noid | SimonRaven: the thing is, my laptop fan never turns on and i get hangups due to heat |
| 12:29.53 | portix | k |
| 12:29.56 | Shadowcat | noid: what processor? |
| 12:30.01 | noid | SimonRaven: it's a 1,8 GHz mobile pentium IV |
| 12:30.08 | Shadowcat | noid: ewww |
| 12:30.10 | kbrooks | Shadowcat, may i give you something in a pm? |
| 12:30.18 | Shadowcat | noid: how old is the laptop? |
| 12:30.20 | Shadowcat | kbrooks: ok |
| 12:30.24 | noid | Shadowcat: don't look at me, i didn't choose it |
| 12:30.31 | SimonRaven | noid: ok. i assume it is supported. though some lappies have crappy acpi support; i assume you installed stuff like acpid and the acpitools? |
| 12:30.34 | noid | Shadowcat: no idea |
| 12:30.50 | noid | SimonRaven: nope, gonna do that |
| 12:30.50 | Shadowcat | SimonRaven: I think the thermal diode is broken on the machine |
| 12:31.00 | SimonRaven | ew, that would suck |
| 12:31.06 | noid | SimonRaven: this is my first laptop debian experience |
| 12:31.07 | Shadowcat | in which case the bios thinks the processor's cool, but in reality it's boiling |
| 12:31.19 | SimonRaven | and a p4 ... |
| 12:31.26 | noid | Shadowcat: no, the fan works, it was working with windows xp |
| 12:31.34 | Shadowcat | WinLaptop then |
| 12:31.35 | Shadowcat | you're fucked |
| 12:31.37 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 12:31.41 | Shadowcat | what brand? |
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| 12:32.07 | noid | compaq evo |
| 12:32.10 | liable | noid: check out tuxmbil.org for others experiences, you prolly need some sort of acpi module fuckerage. |
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| 12:32.18 | sep | Skrot, that 30 sec is the dns timeout route -n should be faster |
| 12:32.22 | liable | tuxmobil.org.. |
| 12:32.26 | Shadowcat | uhhh crappy laptop with a crappy chipset and a crappy processor, made by a crappy company |
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| 12:32.34 | Shadowcat | that about sum it up? :P |
| 12:32.48 | liable | that doesnt mean its not supported.. |
| 12:32.53 | noid | Shadowcat: and it is the only thing i have to work with, i'm afraid |
| 12:32.55 | sep | Skrot, and you are realy looking for the mac of the laptop and the gateway not the interfaces of the bridge itself |
| 12:33.04 | kelmo | hi, can someone please let me know the current revision of the 2.6.15 linux-image? |
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| 12:33.06 | Shadowcat | liable: no but it sure as hell makes life sour |
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| 12:33.13 | Skrot | sep: Could we do this on msg? |
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| 12:33.29 | Shadowcat | liable: I once had to help a guy put Linux on a Sony Desktop, let's just say that Sony makes WinBoxes |
| 12:33.50 | Shadowcat | liable: we ended up compiling gentoo from stage1 because no precompiled distro would even boot |
| 12:34.12 | Shadowcat | that was a fun and completely wasted afternoon |
| 12:34.41 | noid | weeeee the acpid thingie did it! |
| 12:34.54 | noid | thanks for the tip (-: |
| 12:34.56 | Shadowcat | you didn't install acpid? |
| 12:34.57 | liable | kelmo: still -1 |
| 12:35.13 | chemaja | Shad0wcat: you booted off a Gentoo LiveCD? |
| 12:35.15 | portix | Shadowcat i am sorry for being rude and it wont happen again |
| 12:35.23 | noid | Shadowcat: nope, as i said, this is a first experience with a laptop |
| 12:35.24 | chemaja | Shadowcat, rather. |
| 12:35.26 | portix | and to Simon sayz i am sorry for sayin Simon sayz |
| 12:35.26 | cheal | !tell kelmo about info linux-image-2.6.15-1-486 |
| 12:35.28 | kelmo | liable: thanks, do you think -2 will be following rather soon? ; ) |
| 12:35.29 | liable | kelmo: nice work on madwifi too btw :) |
| 12:35.38 | Shadowcat | chemaja: the install cds would boot, but one installed the kernels would all panic |
| 12:35.44 | liable | kelmo: no idea. |
| 12:35.46 | Shadowcat | chemaja: it wasn't fu nat all |
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| 12:35.53 | Shadowcat | fun* |
| 12:36.03 | sep | Skrot, pointless since im not here all the time i just aswer when i have the time. |
| 12:36.04 | cheal | kelmo: liable meant the module ABI, not the Debian revision |
| 12:36.29 | kelmo | liable: cool, thanks. trying to provide spca5xx modules for all i386 linux-image's |
| 12:36.33 | cat | can someone join #flood |
| 12:36.37 | cat | for one sec |
| 12:36.41 | Skrot | sep: The idea is to have eth0 connected to my ISP (via ethernet) and wlan0 serve as a AP. And I want a transparent firewall, so I bridge eth0 and wlan0, so for the clients it seems that the AP is the ISP, right? |
| 12:36.42 | kelmo | liable: we missed out on 2.6.14-* |
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| 12:37.03 | kbrooks | i finally helped portix :P |
| 12:37.04 | [Elvis] | isn't rc-update a standard debian command? |
| 12:37.10 | kelmo | cheal: ok, so -2 is out . . . |
| 12:37.18 | kelmo | cheal: cheers |
| 12:37.20 | liable | [Elvis]: update-rc.d |
| 12:37.25 | Skrot | sep: So I don't understand why brctl showmacs br0 shouldn't show the macs of the devices which are acctually bridged :) |
| 12:37.33 | cheal | kelmo: yeah |
| 12:37.42 | chemaja | Shadowcat: i wonder what it was about the LiveCD's kernel that caused it not to panic.. |
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| 12:38.23 | [Elvis] | is there a new name for rc.conf or something? |
| 12:38.27 | cheal | kelmo: but if you're just asking to provide modules that shouldn't matter. the ABI didn't change yet |
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| 12:38.31 | cheal | !rc.conf |
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| 12:38.41 | cheal | hum |
| 12:38.43 | sep | Skrot, you must have traffic going since the macs timeout after a while |
| 12:38.44 | [Elvis] | cheal ? |
| 12:38.46 | SimonRaven | !rclocal |
| 12:38.50 | SimonRaven | !rc.local |
| 12:38.51 | dpkg | somebody said rc.local was the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", "apt-get install rcconf", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
| 12:38.55 | cheal | I was thinking about what SimonRaven said |
| 12:39.09 | cheal | [Elvis]: what do you mean by rc.conf? |
| 12:39.55 | [Elvis] | cheal I was following a manual http://home.comcast.net/~alf_park/mythtv.html under the header of autologin |
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| 12:40.01 | Skrot | sep: wow, now brctl showmacs br0 shows a *LOT* of macs |
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| 12:40.13 | Skrot | sep: Like 30 |
| 12:40.16 | maxb | Can anyone explain what causes the linker to enter RPATH entries in libraries or executables? Because on one of my machines, it is failing to enter one for /usr/local/lib |
| 12:40.34 | naveen | i have an issue while executing ant.... can anyone help me pls |
| 12:40.40 | Skrot | sep: One of them being the mac of my laptop |
| 12:40.44 | TBBle | maxb: the -rpath switch to the linker, I think. |
| 12:40.46 | sep | Skrot, well that's not unlikley is it ? it was a univerity afterall i assume the macs are on the wiered interface |
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| 12:40.56 | cheal | [Elvis]: oh, if it's made for another distro, SimonRaven must be right |
| 12:40.59 | SimonRaven | maxb: that's why debian tries to build stuff with --disable-rpath. it makes problems |
| 12:41.22 | sep | Skrot, also try assigning a ip to br0 that way you can ping laptop-bridge and bridge-gateway |
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| 12:41.37 | maxb | SimonRaven: rpath makes problems within the base distribution, but solves problems for user-build addon software |
| 12:41.46 | naveen | i want to install ant-1.6.2-2... how do i do that using apt?? |
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| 12:42.20 | kelmo | cheal: module ABI, where can I find out more about this? |
| 12:42.40 | SimonRaven | maxb: i try not to anyway; force of habit and in keeping with debian practices |
| 12:42.51 | TBBle | -rpath also works for things that have private shared libs... I'm surprised /usr/loca/lib's not in the default ld.conf path. |
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| 12:43.17 | Skrot | sep: Seems I can ping the server from the laptop via eth1 (the wlan card), but not a internet IP |
| 12:43.58 | Skrot | sep: This might be problems with the wlan-driver on the server though, it's not quite stable when used as master |
| 12:44.17 | djp | do i need to install the propriatry nvidia driver in order to get tvout under totem? |
| 12:44.21 | cheal | kelmo: a kernel's module ABI is just what determines the format of modules compiled for that kernel. kernels with the same ABI can use the same modules. kernels with different ABIs must use different modules |
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| 12:44.54 | kelmo | ah, is that all ya meant by it |
| 12:45.21 | kelmo | cool, thanks for clarifying |
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| 12:45.45 | cheal | kelmo: yes. for example, Debian stock kernels built by linux-2.6 2.6.15-1 and 2.6.15-2 can use the same modules, contrary to 2.6.15-2 and say 2.6.14-1 |
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| 12:46.06 | cheal | (or even 2.6.14-*) |
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| 12:46.29 | kelmo | cheal: hmm, ok (difference in major number is obvious) |
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| 12:47.03 | kelmo | cheal: but i did not know that debian kernels of diferent package revision could share modules |
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| 12:47.32 | Skrot | Btw, is it possible to bridge eth0 <-> eth1 and eth0 <-> wlan0? |
| 12:47.49 | cheal | kelmo: yeah, keeping the same ABI sometimes involves more work from kernel maintainers I think |
| 12:48.06 | kelmo | i would say so |
| 12:48.20 | kelmo | but even then, that ABI would be quite hard to define |
| 12:48.45 | kelmo | i'd personally prefer a module built against _exactly_ the same sources |
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| 12:48.55 | sep | Skrot, that would be br0 with ports eth0,eth1,wlan0 |
| 12:49.10 | sep | ie a bridge with 3 interfaces (you can bridge as many as you please) |
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| 12:49.51 | naveen | Skrot, checking your route table is not a bad idea :) |
| 12:49.57 | djp | does nvtv work with the nv drivers? |
| 12:49.59 | sep | Skrot, but seriously why not jsut run it as a regular firewall and bridge eth1 and wlan0 and masquerade it onto eth0 ? |
| 12:50.20 | Skrot | sep: Will it still be transparent? ;) |
| 12:50.38 | sep | Skrot, ofcourse not |
| 12:50.45 | Skrot | sep: exactly :) |
| 12:51.01 | sep | and the need of transpanency is ? |
| 12:51.39 | Skrot | Well, will clients on the network still receive DHCP from my ISP when it's set up like that? |
| 12:51.46 | TBBle | A free and democratic society? |
| 12:52.00 | nix | I want to have both proftpd and pure-ftpd on the same server, pureftpd on a different port. However, the debian packages are mutually exclusive; proftpd removes pure and vice versa. Is there anything i can do here besides compiling one of them by hand? |
| 12:52.06 | sep | Skrot, no your firewall can recive and you can run a dhcp server on it to provide for your clients |
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| 12:52.41 | Skrot | sep: Right, that's partly why I want it transparent. Bridging should be such a big deal anyway, it's probably just my wlan acting up :) |
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| 12:53.20 | sep | Skrot, probably |
| 12:53.32 | Skrot | I'll try it wired in a few |
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| 12:55.07 | bbrazil | Skrot: you could use dhcp-relay |
| 12:55.21 | maxb | nix: Leaving aside the weirdness of wanting two ftp daemons, yes, compiling one from source is probably the cleanest solution. The only way to actually directly defeat a conflict that I am aware of is to directly hack the package files, which is a little messy, and has to be re-done at each upgrade. |
| 12:55.51 | liable | nix: prolly with dpkg and --force-depends, but it may well break it too. |
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| 12:55.59 | Skrot | bbrazil: I'll look into it if this does not work :) |
| 12:56.13 | nix | figured as much |
| 12:56.36 | maxb | Problem with --force-depends is that they may contain conflicting filess |
| 12:56.43 | nix | i'll just apt-get -b source, change some paths (/usr/local) and do a make install instead of dpkg -i |
| 12:57.21 | maxb | If you are doing an apt-get source, you might as well make your own .deb and dpkg -i that. |
| 12:57.42 | nix | perhaps, but i dont want upgrades to break my system |
| 12:57.52 | maxb | nix: ?? |
| 12:59.01 | nix | im like, if its not done the debian way, rather not .deb it at all |
| 12:59.03 | maxb | Oh, right. Well, just change the package name (prefix it with 'local-' or something), and then there is no danger of it being inadvertently 'upgraded' with a standard package |
| 12:59.37 | [Elvis] | anyone with experience with xawtv here? |
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| 12:59.42 | nix | ic |
| 13:00.00 | nix | never thought of prefixing |
| 13:00.03 | nix | :) |
| 13:00.45 | maxb | Pick any convention you like, actually. I use local so I can do 'dpkg -l local-\*' and see all my local debs |
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| 13:01.50 | maxb | I try to .deb-ify everything that goes into /usr/local, so I can easily uninstall it without having to manually hunt for and remove individual files. |
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| 13:03.22 | [Elvis] | can someone tell me where xawtv stores its scantv output file |
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| 13:04.13 | [Elvis] | or where scantv stores it |
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| 13:05.59 | ejofee | what is the best rss feeds reader for gnu-linux? |
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| 13:06.22 | Stranger_ | [Elvis], hehe |
| 13:06.40 | Berge | ejofee: I'd reckon you'll get as many answers as there are RSS feed readers (-: |
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| 13:07.22 | ejofee | Berge: ok... then which one is the most featured? |
| 13:07.30 | raf256[laptop] | [Elvis]: strace can tell |
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| 13:08.17 | Berge | ejofee: Dunno. I generally don't read RSS feads (-: |
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| 13:08.31 | Berge | ejofee: Try apt-cache search rss |
| 13:08.33 | biglaughing | i got a prob when i install Oracle9i |
| 13:08.39 | biglaughing | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.55 | biglaughing | it runs successful but after I choose the "General Purpose" database. |
| 13:09.01 | [Elvis] | raf256[laptop] strace? |
| 13:09.14 | biglaughing | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.20 | biglaughing | and nothing else |
| 13:09.28 | biglaughing | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.40 | biglaughing | any ideas ? any one ? deeply thanks :) |
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| 13:10.22 | Berge | ejofee: Find one to suit your desktop (-: Gnome people seem to use liferea and KDE folks probably use akregator. Or something. |
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| 13:11.05 | kupson | I've just spotted weird behaviour of libldap2, is there someone with good knowledge about it ? |
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| 13:11.13 | DeadZed | How do I install KDE in Debian? |
| 13:11.22 | bibe | DeadZed : apt-get install kde |
| 13:11.36 | streuner | [Elvis]: ever tried zapping or tvtime? |
| 13:11.37 | lunitik | DeadZed: apt-get install kde-core kother kapps kyou kwant |
| 13:11.41 | Berge | DeadZed: ..or use aptitude instead of apt-get. |
| 13:11.48 | DeadZed | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 13:11.49 | DeadZed | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.50 | [Elvis] | no streuner |
| 13:12.01 | lunitik | DeadZed: what bibe said will get you half the damn repo |
| 13:12.09 | Berge | DeadZed: Are you running unstable? |
| 13:12.14 | DeadZed | me? yes |
| 13:12.15 | lunitik | DeadZed: meh... then you're not gonna get it installed :( |
| 13:12.29 | DeadZed | how can I get kde in debian? |
| 13:12.36 | crashbg[work] | guys, how can i convert latin1 database to utf8? |
| 13:12.42 | streuner | DeadZed: /msg dpkg install kde |
| 13:12.43 | lunitik | bibe: why tell people 'apt-get install kde'? no one actually wants to do that! |
| 13:12.47 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: what database ? |
| 13:12.57 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: mysql4.1 |
| 13:12.58 | lunitik | DeadZed: /j #debian-kde for real answers |
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| 13:13.02 | DeadZed | Does anyone have kde in Debian? |
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| 13:13.12 | fireba11 | lunitik: in fact i'm wohndering why that meta-package exists at all |
| 13:13.25 | EdLin | DeadZed: people running stable |
| 13:13.29 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: utf8 text, put in latin1 database :( |
| 13:13.42 | DeadZed | k, Thnks , I'll try #debian-kde |
| 13:13.46 | lunitik | fireba11: for morons... calc created it back in the day to shut people up :/ |
| 13:13.46 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: guess you'll need to export and import in a latin1 database |
| 13:14.04 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: i have to convert it as utf8 |
| 13:14.16 | fireba11 | lunitik: gave me that sort of impression, yes :-) |
| 13:14.27 | lunitik | fireba11: let me correct myself... no one with a brain actually wants to do that ;) |
| 13:14.38 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: well, then the other way round .. but ask in #mysql about conversion tools |
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| 13:15.04 | lkthomas | hey all |
| 13:15.10 | lkthomas | anyone have experience on SCSI RAID card before ? |
| 13:15.44 | roo9 | is it possible to upgrade from an old sarge testing to stable sarge? |
| 13:15.48 | lunitik | I read their site... its not terribly enlightening |
| 13:15.50 | fireba11 | lkthomas: most likely .. ask real questions please |
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| 13:15.55 | bbrazil | roo9: yes |
| 13:16.02 | ejofee | Berge: does the mozilla suite have any equivalent to akregator? |
| 13:16.19 | migiel | while i was apt-get installing a program, my ssh-session got a timeout, but the apt-get is still running, how can i re-attach ? |
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| 13:16.23 | lunitik | ejofee: no... firefox supports RSS feeds though |
| 13:16.23 | roo9 | f~bbrazil: any gotchas I should be aware of, or should it just work (tm) |
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| 13:16.34 | lunitik | ejofee: its not a seperate app etc though... |
| 13:16.42 | azeem | migiel: I don't think you can, unless you ran ssh in a screen session |
| 13:16.48 | nick_ | jm_: hey, i solved the kernel panic problem. i upgraded to 2.6.15 and it's all good |
| 13:16.57 | migiel | azeem: ok.. thought so... i didnt do that.. |
| 13:16.58 | bbrazil | roo9: check the install guide for sarge, might be some others. depends on how old your sarge-testing is |
| 13:16.58 | lunitik | ejofee: which means its probably not the greatest to use, due to not as much focus |
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| 13:17.13 | ejofee | lunitik: thanks |
| 13:17.39 | roo9 | bbrazil: *really* old, no idea how to tell how old, but probably 2 or 3 years |
| 13:18.10 | lkthomas | I got a RAID card which bought from used server, there have a "D4" LED light which shows the RAID card self test fail on the card, when the RAID card working, D4 just flash a bit, then you could hear a beep sound from the motherboard, monitor shows startup screen, everything seems ok, then don't touch anything at all, turn computer off, and turn it on again, monitor shows no signal and D4 self-test light shows up, when D4 self-test light shows |
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| 13:18.56 | jm_ | nick_: new initrd image didn't help? |
| 13:19.01 | Berge | ejofee: I believe so. |
| 13:19.11 | litage | jm_: unforunately it didn't |
| 13:19.16 | Trev_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.18 | bbrazil | roo9: that could be fun |
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| 13:19.25 | jm_ | litage: but did it load the module and detect the controller? |
| 13:19.41 | lkthomas | fireba11: any idea ? |
| 13:19.49 | litage | jm_: i didn't see any mention of the module being loading |
| 13:20.00 | npx | (Disclaimer: perl noob) Is there any overlap between what's provided by CPAN via (for instance) perl -MCPAN -e shell and install Bundle::CPAN, etc? |
| 13:20.01 | jm_ | litage: maybe it wasn't generated properly then |
| 13:20.23 | jm_ | npx: you should avoid doing that on Debian systems |
| 13:20.29 | fireba11 | lkthomas: sounds dead to me .. |
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| 13:21.07 | lkthomas | fireba11: but sometime it could bootup, why |
| 13:21.09 | litage | jm_: it might not have been, but i'm fine with 2.6.15 :) |
| 13:21.10 | roo9 | bbrazil: well, i'm running it now ;), let ya know how it turns out |
| 13:21.13 | ubuntudvd32 | please help me install usb webcam creative PD1001 |
| 13:21.21 | roo9 | bbrazil: any idea how to nail down the date it was installed? |
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| 13:21.28 | tarzeau | ubuntudvd32: please try #ubuntu ? |
| 13:21.28 | streuner | ubuntudvd32: #ubuntu |
| 13:21.44 | npx | jm_, can you give me a roughline estimate of the odds of CPAN packages fubaring debian somehow? |
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| 13:22.12 | mathieu | hi, i have X in 8-bit mode. I try to find allowed color values for aterm (or xterm). How can i find which colors that can be used with a 8-bit display? |
| 13:22.21 | fireba11 | lkthomas: what did you do when you "turned it off" ? soft-off ? unplugg the cable ? |
| 13:22.31 | mathieu | aterm complains that it can't use some colors and ignores those colors from then on |
| 13:22.36 | ubuntudvd32 | tarzeau, I tried but to no avail, but this is a driver issue should be same |
| 13:22.44 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 13:22.45 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 13:23.00 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
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| 13:23.01 | jm_ | npx: it's trivial to completely fuck up your Perl installation when using CPAN, and Perl is pretty important on Debian systems - sometimes using dh-make-perl will be much better |
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| 13:23.18 | mathieu | or how to map 8-bit colors on 24bit colors.. |
| 13:23.19 | tarzeau | mathieu: what does it exactly say? and how do you exactly start it? |
| 13:23.21 | bbrazil | roo9: timestamps of something? |
| 13:23.25 | npx | jm_, alright; thanks dude! |
| 13:23.40 | tarzeau | mathieu: are you on a sparc? |
| 13:23.48 | linuxboyfriend | i am thinking to move to debian but i heard that the debian contains a bit old versions of softwares? |
| 13:23.49 | jm_ | npx: but apparently it doesn't always work ;) |
| 13:23.53 | roo9 | bbrazil: yep, figured somewhere, just trying out to figure out which file exactly |
| 13:23.58 | tarzeau | mathieu: dude, change to 15,16 or 24bit color |
| 13:23.59 | bbrazil | roo9: fstab maybe |
| 13:24.10 | mathieu | tarzeau: no, x86. i reduced color depth to have a better refresh rate / resolution |
| 13:24.16 | roo9 | bbrazil: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.3M Mar 3 2002 installer.log.1 |
| 13:24.22 | tarzeau | mathieu: reduce refresh rate to have better color depth! |
| 13:24.24 | mathieu | tarzeau: i don't need much colors for development, but i do need screen estate |
| 13:24.26 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: yes, the stable version is not as uptodate as some other GNU/Linux distributions |
| 13:24.27 | fireba11 | linuxboyfriend: depends on what is old to you, also you're free to install newer versions if needed |
| 13:24.33 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: however, it works fine |
| 13:24.36 | roo9 | bbrazil: 4 years, exceeded even my best guess |
| 13:24.37 | lkthomas | fireba11: nope, just power off |
| 13:24.37 | tarzeau | mathieu: you need to get a new monitor |
| 13:24.38 | mathieu | tarzeau: i don't like low refresh rates |
| 13:24.46 | mathieu | tarzeau: no, it's the graphics card |
| 13:24.47 | luulis | mathieu: some ancient graphics card ? |
| 13:24.50 | jm_ | litage: yeah works fine for me too |
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| 13:24.57 | mathieu | luulis: intel cheapo stuff |
| 13:24.58 | streuner | linuxboyfriend: what distro are you using actually? |
| 13:24.59 | tarzeau | mathieu: replace that as well? |
| 13:25.10 | mathieu | it's at work |
| 13:25.16 | tarzeau | mathieu: replace work |
| 13:25.19 | fireba11 | lkthomas: SCSI cards should have memory .. try unplugging and waiting about 15 secs and see if it changes ... |
| 13:25.20 | mathieu | heh |
| 13:25.31 | linuxboyfriend | azeem, fireba11: i see some other versions on their site, like testing and unstable which one these contain newer softwares |
| 13:25.33 | lkthomas | fireba11: hold on |
| 13:25.34 | mathieu | it's only aterm that won't run nice in 8bit |
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| 13:25.41 | linuxboyfriend | streuner: i am using suse and gentoo |
| 13:25.41 | tarzeau | mathieu: use xterm |
| 13:25.42 | dusty- | What is the debian package that contains the manpages? |
| 13:25.47 | tarzeau | mathieu: or Terminal.app |
| 13:25.50 | streuner | man-dev |
| 13:25.51 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: they contain newer software, but they are also in development |
| 13:25.54 | tarzeau | dusty-: manpages |
| 13:26.01 | streuner | !info manpages |
| 13:26.06 | dpkg | manpages: (Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system), section doc, is important. Version: 2.17-1 (sid), Packaged size: 400 kB, Installed size: 728 kB |
| 13:26.11 | fireba11 | linuxboyfriend: they do .. but you should stick to stable .. if you really need a newer version of something you can always use a backport |
| 13:26.16 | streuner | dpkg, win tarzeau |
| 13:26.17 | dpkg | Congratulations, tarzeau! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 13:26.41 | linuxboyfriend | fireba11: backport? whats that |
| 13:26.48 | tarzeau | streuner: i'd like popcorn instead |
| 13:26.50 | streuner | !backports |
| 13:26.51 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 13:26.52 | mathieu | tarzeau: i've already found some valid values. 0x7F is ok for blue for instance, but not for red or green. |
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| 13:27.16 | davis | hello debian peoples! |
| 13:27.25 | dusty- | i have manpages installed and man-dev doesn't exists |
| 13:27.39 | Greves | if i'm using netboot to install debian, what does the 0 mean in "root=/dev/ram0" grub conf l ine from section 5.1.2 of the install manual? |
| 13:27.49 | dusty- | ah manpages-dev |
| 13:27.51 | streuner | tarzeau: hehe |
| 13:27.56 | tarzeau | davis: it's not peoples, like it's not fishs |
| 13:27.59 | tarzeau | davis: nor sheeps |
| 13:28.06 | tarzeau | davis: or childrens |
| 13:28.31 | linuxboyfriend | azeem: ok, but out of testing and unstable, which one is latest in term of package versions? |
| 13:28.37 | streuner | linuxboyfriend: we recommend sarge (stable) for people who are new in debian... |
| 13:28.38 | davis | i have a problem with a program install. It complains about glib2.1 missing. |
| 13:28.39 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: unstable |
| 13:28.50 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: it is thus also the latest for breakage |
| 13:28.53 | tarzeau | davis: care to tell which program that is? |
| 13:28.56 | davis | is there a way to find/install this version? |
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| 13:29.09 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: if you run unstable, you do not get support here, you will need to fix breakage yourself |
| 13:29.22 | DeadZed | lunitik #debian-kde dont have ANY answers by the way |
| 13:29.35 | davis | apt-cache search glibc-2.1 shows nothing. |
| 13:29.47 | azeem | DeadZed: maybe it takes a bit more patience |
| 13:29.58 | EdLin | DeadZed: that's because they can't fix unstable for you |
| 13:30.09 | DeadZed | I see |
| 13:30.14 | azeem | davis: glib and glibc are two different things |
| 13:30.21 | mamars | /leave |
| 13:30.24 | tarzeau | davis: is there a way you tell which program that is? |
| 13:30.27 | litage | i don't really understand why #debian is so against helping out those who are running unstable. the only way for packages to move from unstable to testing is for people to use them, so why not help'em out? |
| 13:30.30 | davis | azeem, typo. glibc is what i meant. |
| 13:30.38 | azeem | davis: it's libc6 |
| 13:30.40 | lunitik | DeadZed: they'll have more than #debian on account of they are the maintainers... try again when they wake up. |
| 13:30.41 | azeem | !info libc6 woody |
| 13:30.45 | Shadowcat | litage: because unstable is the development tree |
| 13:30.50 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.2.5-11.8 (woody), Packaged size: 3303 kB, Installed size: 12760 kB |
| 13:30.52 | linuxboyfriend | azeem: hmm, can u tell me the at which date the last stable is released and from where (at debian.org) i can see the package list of stable version? |
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| 13:30.58 | Shadowcat | and you're not supposed to be running it unless you're a developer |
| 13:31.00 | azeem | !info libc6 potato |
| 13:31.07 | Shadowcat | potato? |
| 13:31.08 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.1.3-20 (potato), Packaged size: 1856 kB, Installed size: 9568 kB |
| 13:31.13 | azeem | davis: ^^ |
| 13:31.14 | Shadowcat | that'd old |
| 13:31.18 | azeem | davis: why do you need 2.1? |
| 13:31.24 | azeem | I assume there is another problem |
| 13:31.35 | litage | Shadowcat: doesn't it help the community if you help the developers? |
| 13:31.46 | azeem | davis: usually, using a newer glibc for programs compiled against an older one is fine |
| 13:31.51 | Shadowcat | litage: you don't help us by pestering us with dependency problems |
| 13:31.54 | fireba11 | litage: nto if you got no clue |
| 13:31.57 | Shadowcat | we do have code to debug |
| 13:32.01 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: May 2005 |
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| 13:32.26 | davis | The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1 |
| 13:32.43 | dusty- | Whats the chmod command to make a file suid root? |
| 13:32.46 | azeem | davis: it might help to post the full error to a pastebin |
| 13:32.47 | dusty- | not the +s flag |
| 13:32.51 | dusty- | i want it the number way |
| 13:32.54 | azeem | not that I could help, but maybe somebody else |
| 13:33.18 | azeem | dusty-: check the chmod manpage |
| 13:33.36 | azeem | linuxboyfriend: http://packages.debian.net/stable/ |
| 13:34.33 | jm_ | litage: it only helps them if person running into the problem can figure it out, as opposed to someone else just helping them so they can show off "I'm running Debian sid yadda yadd" in front of others |
| 13:35.26 | davis | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1572 |
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| 13:35.40 | samy | hi |
| 13:35.42 | davis | hi |
| 13:35.57 | Greves | um so i booted debian installer from the HDD using grub, and now its sitting at the "Retrieving base-installer" screen at 0%... is this normal? its been sitting for a couple of minutes already |
| 13:36.01 | azeem | davis: ok, that has nothing to do with your installed version |
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| 13:36.15 | azeem | it segfaults |
| 13:36.16 | davis | azeem: ok. |
| 13:36.27 | azeem | davis: check the script, and try to run the failing comman manually |
| 13:36.28 | mykii | # pear install |
| 13:36.29 | mykii | Could not open input file: /home/adconrad/build/php5/5.1.1/php5-5.1.1/debian/php-pear/usr/share/php/pearcmd.php |
| 13:36.31 | azeem | command, even |
| 13:36.32 | mykii | wat that shit ? |
| 13:36.32 | samy | if i want reinstall grub and now i-m in knoppix live... |
| 13:36.41 | davis | azeem: ok. |
| 13:36.46 | tarzeau | samy: www.linuks.mine.nu/grub/ |
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| 13:36.54 | mykii | hello |
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| 13:37.27 | mykii | i am getting an error during runnning pear from php5 on a deb/sid |
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| 13:37.47 | xerophyte | Does anybody use eclipse??? say for example if you add folder to external files .. in the nav bar .. how can i remove the folder only from the extern file list .. not from the file system ??? |
| 13:38.09 | tarzeau | xerophyte: there's no #eclipse ? |
| 13:38.26 | xerophyte | tarzeau, there is one i asked they dont know |
| 13:38.32 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 13:38.33 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 13:38.39 | cat | anyone here knows about speedtouch 330 to get it working thrue the installation of sarge |
| 13:38.48 | litage | jm_: when installing debian on new hardware from DVD, booting with 'linux26' results in the kernel not having the appropriate drivers. if you install 2.4.27 though, life's cool. however, how should you upgrade to a recent kernel without compiling your own? |
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| 13:39.08 | jm_ | litage: that's why I tell such people to use Sarge 2.6.14 |
| 13:39.43 | tarzeau | litage: compile your own |
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| 13:39.57 | lkthomas | fireba11: hey |
| 13:39.58 | litage | jm_: when running stable and 2.4.27, ``apt-cache search linux-image'' only returned 2.6.12 |
| 13:39.59 | lkthomas | not working |
| 13:40.00 | tarzeau | litage: or try 5.4 |
| 13:40.01 | ejofee | in liferea, how do i delete news from a feed with tens of messages other way than one by one? |
| 13:40.06 | lkthomas | fireba11: not working still , can not bootup |
| 13:40.22 | tarzeau | ejofee: script it. what's liferea? |
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| 13:40.29 | litage | tarzeau: "5.4" as in 2.5.4? |
| 13:40.29 | fireba11 | lkthomas: well was worth a try |
| 13:40.40 | lkthomas | fireba11: hmm |
| 13:40.42 | jm_ | litage: if the OS is installed already, you can find 2.6.14 on backports |
| 13:40.43 | tarzeau | litage: no as in debian gnu/kfreebsd 5.4 |
| 13:40.46 | ejofee | tarzeau: hard to script. it's gui. liferea is the gnome equivalent of akregator. a rss news reader. |
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| 13:40.55 | tarzeau | ejofee: use a gui that can be scripted |
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| 13:41.18 | litage | jm_: ah |
| 13:41.19 | ejofee | tarzeau: yeah, this is a nice idea. thanks. |
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| 13:41.47 | jm_ | litage: but this can of course result in other problems, i.e. /dev/hda becoming /dev/sda for example |
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| 13:42.09 | tarzeau | ejofee: does it not write the data somewhere, that you can say process with awk? |
| 13:42.16 | tarzeau | ejofee: if not, it really sucks :) |
| 13:42.26 | litage | jm_: that's what i found when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6; i had to modify fstab and menu.lst |
| 13:42.31 | tarzeau | jm_: still better than /dev/disks/... |
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| 13:43.41 | litage | jm_: what should one do when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6 and using SATA HDs? |
| 13:44.04 | jm_ | litage: use 2.6.14 or .15 |
| 13:44.15 | litage | jm_: and manually edit fstab? |
| 13:44.32 | jm_ | litage: if you have to, yes |
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| 13:44.51 | litage | is there anything else that needs to be modified besides fstab if using SATA/SCSI HDs and moving from 2.4 to 2.6? |
| 13:45.01 | jm_ | boot loader config |
| 13:45.11 | litage | yup, got that. anything else? |
| 13:45.12 | jm_ | SCSI disks shouldn't change, just SATA |
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| 13:45.20 | litage | ah true |
| 13:46.20 | litage | so just fstab and the bootloader? |
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| 13:46.20 | jm_ | possibly /etc/modules if you need it, /dev/cdrom if it exists, various config options (smartmontools, hddtemp, hdparm), munin, gkrellm config |
| 13:46.27 | jm_ | that's what I went through |
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| 13:47.19 | kupson | litage, consider using LABEL= or UUID= in /etc/fstab |
| 13:47.41 | ejofee | tarzeau: i think/hope it does. i will try this variant. thanks. |
| 13:47.45 | litage | kupson: i haven't heard of that before. care to explain a little please? |
| 13:48.10 | jm_ | litage: man e2label ; man fstab, but I don't think all file-systems support this |
| 13:48.35 | zoggy | hi everyone! |
| 13:48.37 | litage | interesting |
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| 13:48.47 | litage | jm_, thanks for your help again. i owe you one :) |
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| 13:48.58 | kupson | litage, mount can find filesystems by its label or UUID |
| 13:49.02 | jm_ | not sure if you can specify this in Debian installer, I don't remember how the screen looked like |
| 13:49.12 | fireba11 | question: is there a way to reboot without going down to bios level ? got a box with a stupid bios so a normal reboot will result in bios halting the system and want to do it via remote ... |
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| 13:49.33 | jm_ | fireba11: try passing reboot=warm or reboot=cold to kernel |
| 13:49.47 | fireba11 | jm_ how do i do that exactly ? |
| 13:50.03 | davis | azeem: thanks for your help but it quit executing when it compared image checksums. |
| 13:50.11 | litage | after setting a label with e2label, how can you get a list of device labels? |
| 13:50.19 | davis | i also could not figure how to disable the check. |
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| 13:50.24 | jm_ | fireba11: boot loader config |
| 13:50.39 | jm_ | litage: e2label |
| 13:50.40 | azeem | davis: well, I can't help you further than "try to debug it" :-/ |
| 13:50.44 | npx | awww |
| 13:50.48 | litage | hah |
| 13:50.50 | npx | packages.debian.org is down =( |
| 13:51.04 | kueheo | xilinx is available for RH enterprise. is there any commercial grade logic design package for Debian? |
| 13:51.13 | davis | azeem: that is what i will try. many thanks. |
| 13:51.16 | npx | how can I find out who the maintainer of a package is? I'm trying to find out if anyone has started working on debian packages of slashcode |
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| 13:51.39 | jm_ | npx: grep-dctrl, dpkg-awk, ... |
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| 13:51.54 | avdwoude | Hi |
| 13:51.55 | zoggy | please may i have a moment of your time... just a quick question.. i'm busy installing apache and have would like to compile it from scratch. i see the /apt/sources.list has lines for src files as well, does that mean i can just download the source file and compile from there? if so, does anyone know what i could google for to find some documentation for this process, or point me in the right direction, please, thanks a heap! |
| 13:51.56 | litage | jm_: thanks again. adios |
| 13:52.11 | resiak | zoggy: Why do you want to compile it? |
| 13:52.53 | avdwoude | I got a binary tarball (no source), and I wanna make a deb package out of it. Is there an easy way to achieve this. Or do I need to construct a deb package by hand (ar, etc.) |
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| 13:53.10 | zoggy | good question.. 1) we would like to optimise it and have the PHP "built into" the apache, rather than as a module, for speed purposes |
| 13:53.21 | bbrazil | avdwoude: see the new maintainers guide |
| 13:53.30 | resiak | zoggy: You do realise that that does not make the slightest bit of difference, don't you? |
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| 13:53.37 | Coke | avdwoude: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/ |
| 13:53.37 | avdwoude | bbrazil, Ah hmmm.. I missed it then... I'll read it again |
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| 13:53.40 | zoggy | really why |
| 13:53.41 | bbrazil | avdwoude: will be a bit different for a binary only though |
| 13:53.42 | zinx | zoggy: ... speed purposes? |
| 13:53.43 | jm_ | avdwoude: you will need to create control files either way, so there's little point in using ar anyway - you can build it with Debian tools once you have them |
| 13:54.01 | resiak | zoggy: Because the PHP Apache module is linked into the Apache binary when it is loaded |
| 13:54.10 | zoggy | from my (limited) understanding i thought that php is faster that way |
| 13:54.11 | zoggy | oh ok |
| 13:54.13 | Coke | zoggy: there are no speed issues once the module is loaded. |
| 13:54.15 | zinx | zoggy: apache startup will be slower unless you have prelinking, but past startup, it's exactly the same as non-module |
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| 13:54.32 | zoggy | that's not a problem |
| 13:54.39 | zinx | usually isn't :) |
| 13:54.46 | zoggy | ok, so what are the src lines in the apt/sources.list about ? |
| 13:54.49 | avdwoude | jm_, Which debian tools... I have only used the new maintainers guide and what is say there for some other package. My current experience doesn't go beyond that |
| 13:54.51 | zoggy | if you don't mind my asking |
| 13:54.53 | Coke | zoggy: binary code is still binary code. however, if you wish to optimize it for a specific architecture you have to compile it. |
| 13:55.00 | Coke | zoggy: they are for source packages. |
| 13:55.01 | jm_ | avdwoude: dpkg-buildpackage ... |
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| 13:55.10 | zoggy | ok |
| 13:55.20 | avdwoude | jm_, right, thanks! |
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| 13:55.35 | avdwoude | Thanks for the pointers |
| 13:55.41 | zoggy | thanks for clearing up my understanding! |
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| 13:56.05 | jm_ | avdwoude: dh-make is often useful for simple tasks |
| 13:56.07 | kueheo | Coke: what is the use of those source packages if not for compiling to binary code? |
| 13:56.24 | avdwoude | jm_, I noticed |
| 13:56.29 | esses | hi all has anyone installed zd1211 driver? |
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| 13:56.33 | avdwoude | :-) |
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| 13:57.25 | EtherNet | hello everybody |
| 13:57.38 | zoggy | Coke, what about if we want to leave out parts of PHP that we don't require eg mysql support etc |
| 13:57.51 | zoggy | that would require compiling, wouldn't it? |
| 13:58.00 | zoggy | or does that not make a significant difference |
| 13:58.21 | jm_ | you can disable it in php.ini |
| 13:58.25 | EtherNet | I have done an apt-get upgrade, and noticed a lot of upgrades, every package I want to update, apt-get wants to remove my kernel image already installed.. how do I keep that image? cause if it removes it, I will not have any kernel image for booting again. |
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| 13:58.46 | zoggy | sorry jm_ was that an answer to my question, thanks? |
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| 13:59.36 | jm_ | zoggy: yeah - otherwise you can get Debian source packages and modify the way they're build and rebuild them locally |
| 13:59.41 | jm_ | built |
| 14:00.01 | fantomas | Sorry for offtopic. Does anybody speak Chinese or is Chinese? |
| 14:00.09 | zoggy | ok, that's what i was interested in thanks jm_ |
| 14:00.35 | zoggy | do you know of where i can find any documentation on that process, i've tried googling for lots of stuff and keep finding other stuff |
| 14:01.00 | jm_ | apt-get source foo && cd foobar && edit baz && debuild -uc -us -b |
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| 14:01.30 | tkinias | hola... I'm getting something weird with apt-get dist-upgrade: it wants to remove all of gnome and KDE (tracking testing) |
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| 14:02.18 | zoggy | thanks a lot jm_ sorry to sound dumb but where is the parent for foobar in cd foobar |
| 14:02.19 | A64 | Hello all, a simple question: can you recommend me a PPPoE server for Debian which is capable of serving ~ 2.000 PC-s ? The 'factory' one (pppoe-server) is intended for testing only. |
| 14:02.29 | Coke | zoggy: PHP modules are separate packages in Debian. |
| 14:02.39 | zoggy | ok thanks |
| 14:02.44 | zoggy | so do they end up in /usr/src |
| 14:02.48 | esses | noone use zd1211 driver? |
| 14:02.49 | jm_ | zoggy: you can do that anywhere you want - installing fakeroot will let you build it as user |
| 14:02.50 | Coke | zoggy: what? |
| 14:03.25 | zoggy | but where do they go normally |
| 14:03.27 | Coke | zoggy: I'm thinking you do not have to optimize Apache, just install the binary packages. |
| 14:03.30 | zoggy | i don't mind where they go |
| 14:03.35 | Coke | zoggy: where does what go? |
| 14:03.58 | zoggy | thanks Coke, i appreciate that, we want to exclude mysql amongst other stuff |
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| 14:04.32 | zoggy | Coke, where do the downloaded sources end up by default and what is the process (roughly) to compile them so that debian is aware of them |
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| 14:05.00 | zoggy | i'm worried that i'll download apache, compile and install it, but debian (apt) won't know about it |
| 14:05.20 | zoggy | so i won't get security updates etc |
| 14:05.24 | zoggy | probably sounds |
| 14:05.26 | zoggy | dumb |
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| 14:05.40 | esses | bye |
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| 14:05.57 | jm_ | security updates will overwrite your packages if you don't take actions |
| 14:06.00 | SerajewelKS | after upgrading from 2.6.12 to 2.6.15, Xvnc no longer starts up. it quits with: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' |
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| 14:06.34 | Coke | zoggy: I recommend that you go with the default package installation |
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| 14:06.40 | jm_ | do you have font fixed in your font path? |
| 14:07.00 | SerajewelKS | jm_: i would suspect i do, this worked before upgrading the kernel |
| 14:07.10 | zoggy | i understand that jm_, i'm more worried that some other package at a later stage will require apache and apt will try get it, leaving me with 2 |
| 14:07.15 | EtherNet | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 14:07.17 | rootmos | any suggestions for a non kde and non gnome pictureviewer? |
| 14:07.21 | EtherNet | how do I fix that? |
| 14:07.32 | naiorao | fantomas: for Chinese, goto #debian-zh. |
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| 14:07.37 | jm_ | zoggy: no, building a package like this will meet apt's requirements |
| 14:07.42 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: just kernel? |
| 14:07.57 | zoggy | Coke, so you don't think there'd be speed improvements by leaving out the areas of the PHP source that we didn't need, eg mysql support, graphics support or whatever else it might be? |
| 14:07.58 | ragTop | rootmos: xv |
| 14:08.04 | SerajewelKS | jm_: yes, and my X.org config (added a ServerLayout and some twinview options, nothing that should affect Xvnc) |
| 14:08.25 | zoggy | ok so do you need to do a normal ./configure, make, make install or does apt need anything special, thanks jm_ |
| 14:08.27 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: is misc dir in font path? does it have fixed font? |
| 14:08.35 | jm_ | zoggy: no, you need to it the way I mentioned above |
| 14:09.10 | SerajewelKS | jm_: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! |
| 14:09.12 | zoggy | ok thanks a million |
| 14:09.39 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: heh and nothing changed? |
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| 14:10.13 | tkinias | hmm... also strange: man just quit working: "groff: can't find `DESC' file" "groff:fatal error: invalid device `utf8'" |
| 14:10.28 | tkinias | anyone seen that? |
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| 14:11.05 | SerajewelKS | jm_: nope, the folder still exists |
| 14:11.17 | SerajewelKS | jm_: if there's a way to rebuild font information, i could try that |
| 14:11.21 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: directory! and it's not enough that it's there, it needs to have some important files |
| 14:11.36 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: indeed there is - man update-fonts-dir |
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| 14:12.38 | plbgnr | hello, does anybody know java application which works like winscp? (not gftp, because it knows just sftp ...not scp) |
| 14:12.45 | zoggy | thanks again jm_ and Coke... have a great year, cheers!!! |
| 14:12.48 | SerajewelKS | jm_: didn't help |
| 14:12.52 | fantomas | naiorao: thnx |
| 14:13.36 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: did it build fonts.dir? is there one in /etc/X11/fonts/misc? |
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| 14:14.42 | jm_ | the /etc/... dir should have an alias for fixed font, not fonts.dir, just so you won't waste your time finding it |
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| 14:15.02 | honschu | How to get to know which www-server is running on a specified host? |
| 14:15.47 | jm_ | honschu: I use chkwww, otherwise there's telnet, nc, browser extensions to show headers, ... |
| 14:15.47 | SerajewelKS | jm_: yes |
| 14:15.47 | petemc | honschu: netcraft can tell you |
| 14:15.50 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: and the other question? |
| 14:16.02 | bibe | honschu : consider nmap -O |
| 14:16.17 | SerajewelKS | jm_: no, but there are no fonts their either |
| 14:16.19 | bibe | honschu : sorry, nmap -sV -sS |
| 14:16.27 | plbgnr | ....simply I want something more than scp (I needn't actually java application, but I didn't find any standard app in packages) |
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| 14:16.41 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: there are no fonts there, just .alias files - grep fixed /etc/X11/fonts/misc/* |
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| 14:16.55 | jm_ | or maybe grep '^fixed' |
| 14:17.16 | SerajewelKS | jm_: only hit on ^fixed: /etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias:fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 |
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| 14:17.39 | slug | hello all |
| 14:17.44 | slug | i have a question |
| 14:17.55 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: more than enough, that should case it to be added in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir |
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| 14:18.12 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: sorry fonts.alias not .dir |
| 14:18.37 | linuxfreck | SerajewelKS: so all you changed is use another kernel? did you compile the kernel yourself? |
| 14:18.44 | jm_ | and it should have .dir too, otherwise X server will ignore the dir |
| 14:18.46 | SerajewelKS | linuxfreck: sort of, and no |
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| 14:18.57 | SerajewelKS | jm_: the X server is also saying: Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list! |
| 14:19.04 | SerajewelKS | jm_: it does that with two other font dirs too |
| 14:19.09 | slug | i am running debian sarge with kernel 2.6.13 patched, now i want to install e17 but if i try i get error needs a other version libc6 |
| 14:19.10 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: yes I know, see above |
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| 14:19.21 | slug | is there a way to update libc6? |
| 14:19.22 | EtherNet | why every package I install or update with apt-get finish in this way: |
| 14:19.22 | EtherNet | Setting up fetchmail (6.3.1-3) ... |
| 14:19.22 | EtherNet | usermod: invalid option -- - |
| 14:19.31 | slug | without reinstalling anything? |
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| 14:20.33 | slug | alsom why is the debian package search down? how long until its up again? someone know? |
| 14:20.46 | SerajewelKS | jm_: it has both, yes |
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| 14:21.12 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: and alias fixed in fonts.alias? |
| 14:21.17 | SerajewelKS | jm_: and, afaik, X.org has no problem, but Xvnc does |
| 14:21.35 | SerajewelKS | jm_: fixed -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 |
| 14:22.05 | tkinias | has nobody else had problems with groff recently? |
| 14:22.09 | xerophyte | what is the best GUI IDE to code perl, python and php |
| 14:22.20 | SerajewelKS | xerophyte: xterm! |
| 14:22.21 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: looks just fine as far as X requirements go, someone was here metionig font problems in xmms and some other apps, possibly related |
| 14:22.44 | SerajewelKS | jm_: yeah, my :0 server has no problems, but for some reason Xvnc is upset =/ |
| 14:22.51 | linuxfreck | xerophyte: vim, emacs |
| 14:22.59 | EtherNet | enterprise:~# dpkg-reconfigure fetchmail |
| 14:23.00 | EtherNet | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: fetchmail is broken or not fully installed |
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| 14:23.08 | EtherNet | I tried uninstalling it, and re installing it.. |
| 14:23.12 | EtherNet | any idea? |
| 14:23.25 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: maybe try installing xfs and let VNC server use it |
| 14:23.57 | blondie | how can I put a search domain in /etc/resolv.conf and not have it removed by dhcp? |
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| 14:24.20 | SerajewelKS | jm_: =/ |
| 14:24.24 | EtherNet | blondie, chmod -rw /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:24.24 | [Elvis] | can someone tell me how I can start xawtv with my own config file of channels? |
| 14:24.46 | linuxfreck | blondie: your dhcp client may have a command line option to do that |
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| 14:25.59 | GregM | Hi, assuming Ive got permissions right and I can use NFS to access a dir , should I then be able to access dirs that are linked to that dir? eg ln -s /home/share/foo /var/foo |
| 14:26.06 | EtherNet | please check out my apt-get error: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WRv22E64.html |
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| 14:26.45 | slug | someone know a good howto for e17? |
| 14:27.05 | slug | i have seen it! i want it! i need it ! |
| 14:27.08 | [Elvis] | can someone tell me where xawtv gets its channel config from? |
| 14:27.28 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 14:27.29 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/, or debs for dr17 under unstable are available at http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ |
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| 14:29.44 | slug | dpkg thank u, u have some idea how i can change my libc6 version? seems that dr17 needs a different version.... |
| 14:29.45 | dpkg | pas de quoi, slug |
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| 14:30.30 | EtherNet | please check out my apt-get error: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WRv22E64.html |
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| 14:32.02 | slug | dpkg i just seen that i already have both in sources.list , problem is that if i then try to install dr17 it tells me : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed |
| 14:32.03 | dpkg | slug: I think you lost me on that one |
| 14:32.18 | slug | ..? |
| 14:32.23 | Ronin | slug: in case you haven't figured it out yet your talking to a bot |
| 14:32.46 | jm_ | and you're also trying to install Debian packaged from much newer release, so stop right away |
| 14:32.50 | jm_ | package |
| 14:33.02 | TBBle | EtherNet: What a pretty error. You might want to have a look in the BTS for the package that's actually failing to install, though. |
| 14:33.20 | EtherNet | TBBle, I fixed by upgrading base-config base-passwd and passwd packages. |
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| 14:33.29 | EtherNet | TBBle, thank you anyawys |
| 14:33.49 | TBBle | EtherNet: Then it's a bug in the package being installed anyway. It should have depended on the correct passwd pacakge version. |
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| 14:34.17 | presroi | hello |
| 14:34.40 | ragTop | hi |
| 14:34.48 | slug | Ronin how can i see who is a bot and who not? |
| 14:34.52 | clars | When I wanna make a new partitition on my externHD, shoud I then use "primary partition" or "extended" doing the fdisk |
| 14:34.58 | slug | i am a chat noob :) |
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| 14:35.23 | presroi | bad news: someone spilled tea over my notebook. bad news: it died. good news: I was able to buy a new notebook bad news: Installation failes. I am frustrated. |
| 14:35.34 | jm_ | clars: extended partition is just a container for logical drives |
| 14:35.51 | tkinias | slug: dpkg is the bot for giving answers for FAQs on this channel (see the channel topic for examples) |
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| 14:36.23 | egil | how to run a command which name is "geurocalc.py" ? |
| 14:36.29 | slug | tkinias okay, i will have a look |
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| 14:36.53 | TTimo | lo .. I have a problem with synaptic and package signatures |
| 14:36.54 | slug | jm_ so there is no way to install dr17 on my os? |
| 14:37.06 | TTimo | I get a warning "signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" |
| 14:37.09 | clars | jm_, ok then I use the "primary partition" |
| 14:37.10 | Ronin | TTimo: /topic |
| 14:37.14 | TTimo | I did import the key as root with gpg though |
| 14:37.18 | Ronin | hhe |
| 14:37.32 | jm_ | slug: it might work if you use "simple sid backport" approach, or just compile it yourself and install it in /usr/local |
| 14:37.49 | TTimo | oh I gotta feed it to apt |
| 14:37.52 | TTimo | ok thks |
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| 14:39.22 | zomak | ub(1.4): Stall at GetMaxLUN, using 1 LUN ||| When i plug in my USB DVD-RW drive or my USB-HDD drive the lsusb recognises it but in dmesg it gives that error.. does anyone know why ? (and no, i cant mount those drives due the error) |
| 14:39.50 | slug | jm_ u think this howto is any use? https://vogelweith.homeftp.net/Linux/e17_en.php |
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| 14:41.03 | jm_ | slug: yeah looks OK |
| 14:41.41 | ootput | did anyone recently install mplayer on sid from marillat's repo? I'm getting libpolyp0 as an uninstallable dependency |
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| 14:43.41 | tkinias | ootput: no problems on this etch box, but apt's just started doing other weirdness today |
| 14:43.56 | tkinias | ootput: no probs vis-Ã -vis mplayer that is |
| 14:44.19 | ootput | tkinias: yeah, i think etch is ok |
| 14:44.29 | ootput | tkinias: libpolyp seems to exist |
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| 14:46.08 | liix | haha, here there was a lot of users, i must say! :) |
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| 14:46.56 | GaiaX11 | Anyone could tell me where the iptables configuration file is in Debian? |
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| 14:47.25 | Ben | hey all |
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| 14:48.06 | pearl | !ps2pdf |
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| 14:48.16 | GaiaX11 | I can't connect to FTP servers. And i think i have to change something there. |
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| 14:48.39 | Shadowcat | GaiaX11: the RIAA is on to you, they've cut off your ftp access |
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| 14:49.27 | abrotman | !find ps2pdf sarge |
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| 14:50.37 | GaiaX11 | What is RIAA? |
| 14:50.42 | abrotman | !riaa |
| 14:50.43 | dpkg | i guess riaa is PURE EVIL!!!, or Retards Inevitably Assume Authority, or be careful, they have big lawyers, or evil evil evil evil evil evil evil EVIL@@$&$&. Recording Industry Association of America, or a joke |
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| 14:51.46 | esses | hi all |
| 14:51.59 | blondie | what's the difference between mount -t smbfs and cifds? |
| 14:52.01 | blondie | -d |
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| 14:52.22 | kspath | three letters? |
| 14:52.32 | abrotman | pearl: gs-common |
| 14:52.33 | esses | can someone say me the url of official debian unstable repository(for kernel headers 2.6.15-1)? |
| 14:52.51 | esses | to add to sources.list |
| 14:53.11 | abrotman | esses: are you running unstable already? |
| 14:53.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ps2pdf' (4 of 5): (/usr/share/rubber/rubber/modules/ps2pdf.py) in tex/rubber ;; (/usr/bin/{ps2pdf|ps2pdf12|ps2pdf13|...}) in text/gs-common ;; (/usr/share/apps/kile/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/ps2pdf.png) in tex/kile ;; (/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/{ps2pdf.desktop|ps2pdf.xml}) in libs/kdelibs-data. |
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| 14:54.01 | esses | I need only the 2.6.15-1 headers |
| 14:54.07 | abrotman | why? |
| 14:54.12 | esses | to compile a module |
| 14:54.20 | abrotman | are you running 2.6.15-1 kernel? |
| 14:54.53 | jsmidt | I have a package saying I need to install GTK. Which package is GTK? None are named GTK. |
| 14:55.00 | esses | no i've downloaded it but I3m waiting to install the headers before |
| 14:55.09 | abrotman | jsmidt: libgtk****** |
| 14:55.16 | azeem | jsmidt: check whether it is GTK-1.2 or GTK-2.x? |
| 14:55.20 | azeem | eh, s/\?// |
| 14:55.37 | jsmidt | It is GTK-2.6 |
| 14:55.40 | PerfDave | esses: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 14:55.43 | abrotman | esses: use your web browser .. and browse your apt-source .. ie .. ftp ftp.debian.org .. check the pool directory |
| 14:56.03 | esses | okay |
| 14:56.08 | azeem | jsmidt: libgtk2.0-0 then |
| 14:56.20 | jsmidt | Thanks |
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| 14:56.57 | GaiaX11 | I can't access FTP sites through gftp; synaptic; web pages etc. What's wrong? |
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| 14:57.49 | Gnea | GaiaX11: firewall |
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| 14:58.28 | GaiaX11 | In gftp it says: Security: Bad IP connecting. |
| 14:58.34 | esses | abroatman the unstable dir? |
| 14:59.03 | Ben | i was wondering if anyone could shed some light on how i can have my linux comp newtorked with my windows xp laptop. |
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| 14:59.06 | SerajewelKS | damnit, i just don't see what a kernel upgrade has to do with Xvnc not detecting fonts |
| 14:59.07 | Gnea | GaiaX11: well, you say that any client can't establish a remote ftp connection, that means outgoing connections to ftp are blocked somehow |
| 14:59.10 | Ben | i cant figure it out |
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| 15:01.40 | GaiaX11 | When i try throug gftDisconnecting from site ftp.freebsd.org |
| 15:01.41 | GaiaX11 | 550 Passive connection must come from same host as control connection. |
| 15:01.41 | GaiaX11 | Invalid response '5' received from server.p it says: |
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| 15:02.16 | Tortel | !paste |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 15:02.38 | Gnea | GaiaX11: ok do this: apt-get install lftp |
| 15:02.47 | Gnea | GaiaX11: quit gftp |
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| 15:03.15 | esses | in the pool directory there isn3t headers of 2.6.15-1 |
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| 15:03.24 | Ben | cool thanks |
| 15:03.25 | Gnea | GaiaX11: when it's installed, type lftp on the command line and hit enter, then: lftp :~> open ftp.freebsd.org <enter> |
| 15:03.36 | Mat_Jack1 | hi all |
| 15:03.47 | Gnea | GaiaX11: tell me what it says next |
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| 15:04.04 | ootput | gah, optus mirror |
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| 15:04.27 | GaiaX11 | I think the problem is not gftp. Because i cannot access even through synaptic and web pages. |
| 15:04.59 | Eulex | esses, look in the linux-2.6 directory. |
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| 15:05.16 | esses | I try it.... |
| 15:05.19 | Gnea | GaiaX11: that's what i said before. but it doesn't matter what you think, do the thing with lftp. |
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| 15:05.45 | GaiaX11 | Ok. I will try. |
| 15:05.49 | victor_v | Hello people |
| 15:06.04 | pengol | hi there ... I would like to mount nfs home directories with automount. Is it correct if I specify /- /etc/auto.home in auto.master and /home -rw,soft,intr server:/home in the auto.home? |
| 15:06.15 | Eulex | esses, ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
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| 15:08.30 | esses | allora c'è il kernel(che gia' avevo scaricato) ma io cercavo gli header corrispondenti che devo compilare un driver |
| 15:09.07 | Nwallins | hello, the msg from dpkg re:2006 is a little bit confusing... this part: "... with no verification -- gpg --keyserver" maybe -- is a bad way to separate the text from the command, since the command is full of -- |
| 15:09.11 | Eulex | !it |
| 15:09.13 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 15:09.44 | sep | Nwallins, if you dont like it, change it |
| 15:10.48 | Nwallins | sep, yeah, i know about '2600 is also' but not how to substitute |
| 15:10.50 | Eulex | Nwallins, I'll change the first -- to : |
| 15:10.51 | pengol | Is the syntax correct? cos automount doesn't work properly |
| 15:10.56 | Nwallins | Eulex: :) |
| 15:10.59 | esses | I'm sorry I forgot I'm on in english channel. So, I've already downloaded the image but I need the headers to compile a driver module. I'm looking for the 2.6.15-1 headers |
| 15:11.04 | GaiaX11 | Gnea, it says: lftp ftp.freebsd.org:~> |
| 15:11.25 | esses | :-) on in :-) |
| 15:11.25 | abrotman | esses: uname -a |
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| 15:11.50 | Gnea | GaiaX11: great, what happens if you type: ls<enter> |
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| 15:12.09 | pengol | apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.15-1 ? |
| 15:12.15 | pengol | esses: ^^^ |
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| 15:12.26 | esses | :-) I try... |
| 15:12.27 | abrotman | pengol: he doesnt' have sid sources |
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| 15:12.38 | Eulex | hmm, I think I messed up. the text was too long. |
| 15:12.40 | abrotman | esses: WHAT is `uname -a` ? |
| 15:12.43 | Eulex | !2006 key |
| 15:12.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - && apt-get u |
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| 15:12.57 | Nwallins | apt-get u |
| 15:12.58 | GaiaX11 | Gnea, it says: ls: Access failed: 550 Passive connection must come from same host as control connection. |
| 15:13.00 | pengol | abrotman: ops sorry |
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| 15:13.12 | abrotman | esses: what does that command return ? |
| 15:13.25 | Eulex | Nwallins, I know. the message was too long. the rest of it came on the next line. |
| 15:13.29 | esses | the uname -a isn't 2.6.15-1 but I know that. |
| 15:13.34 | abrotman | pengol: and actually .. it still would have been wrong :) |
| 15:13.36 | jsmidt | Are the GTK development headers part of libgtk? |
| 15:13.45 | pengol | abrotman: why? |
| 15:13.46 | abrotman | esses: what does it say ? |
| 15:13.54 | abrotman | pengol: they aren't called that anymore |
| 15:14.03 | pengol | really? |
| 15:14.04 | abrotman | jsmidt: no |
| 15:14.05 | pengol | :) |
| 15:14.10 | Nwallins | could a local firewall policy prevent me from downloading the key according to /msg dpkg 2006 key? |
| 15:14.15 | Eulex | abrotman, do you know how to append to a fact? |
| 15:14.18 | abrotman | jsmidt: libgtk2.0-0-dev .. or something |
| 15:14.24 | abrotman | Eulex: like what ? |
| 15:14.50 | GaiaX11 | What is next then? |
| 15:14.56 | abrotman | Nwallins: prllly not |
| 15:15.08 | fireba11 | Nwallins: if COULD of course. .but that is highly unlikely |
| 15:15.13 | Nwallins | gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net |
| 15:15.13 | Nwallins | gpg: keyserver timed out |
| 15:15.22 | pengol | abrotman: right kernel-headers-2.6.15-1-arch |
| 15:15.25 | abrotman | nslookup ? |
| 15:15.31 | abrotman | pengol: no |
| 15:15.32 | Eulex | abrotman, the message was too long, so it was split. so it became '...apt-get u' instead of '..apt-get update' |
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| 15:15.34 | Gnea | GaiaX11: try this: pasv<enter> ls<enter> |
| 15:15.44 | abrotman | Eulex: which message ? |
| 15:15.51 | esses | I want to install it and for the module compiling i need the headers :-) |
| 15:15.51 | esses | and about your questions 2.6.12-10 |
| 15:15.51 | esses | now |
| 15:16.13 | abrotman | esses: apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6.10 |
| 15:16.14 | Nwallins | abrotman: nslookup finds subkeys.pgp.net, if that's what you were asking |
| 15:16.15 | Eulex | abrotman, 2006 key |
| 15:16.24 | pengol | shure :) linux-headers-2.6.15-1-arch |
| 15:16.44 | fireba11 | Nwallins: try a traceroute there |
| 15:16.56 | Nwallins | trying.. |
| 15:17.01 | abrotman | Eulex: it' was just too long |
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| 15:17.23 | abrotman | pengol: but why the fuck would you use headers that don't belong to your kernel ? |
| 15:17.53 | pengol | abrotman: maybe just to compile a module for that kernel ... |
| 15:17.54 | Gnea | GaiaX11: sorry, not pasv<enter>, but set ftp:fxp-passive-source 1<enter> |
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| 15:18.10 | GaiaX11 | lftp ftp.freebsd.org:/> pasv |
| 15:18.11 | GaiaX11 | Unknown command `pasv'. |
| 15:18.32 | abrotman | pengol: or he doesn't know what he's doing? |
| 15:18.33 | Nwallins | i don't control our firewall, though i can make requests... traceroutes have been marginally informative.. as it is in this case... `traceroute subkeys.pgp.net` is on 7 * * * now |
| 15:18.35 | Gnea | GaiaX11: also try set ftp:passive-mode 1<enter> |
| 15:18.41 | pengol | abrotman: maybe |
| 15:18.42 | Eulex | abrotman, I think I know. I'll make him forget and then add it again. |
| 15:18.48 | abrotman | Eulex: i fixed it already |
| 15:18.53 | pengol | any help about the autofs question? |
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| 15:19.24 | abrotman | !tell Eulex about 2006 key |
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| 15:19.54 | Greves | can anyone help please? when i was setting up the initial configuration, i selected to not use a framebuffer device. now my computer is freezing after a minute or so in X... do you think this is why? how do i change back to a framebuffer? |
| 15:20.15 | ejofee | synaptic says adept is latest version. however, it places it under the "upgradable" category! more than this, when i want to "update" it (as illogically as it may be), it says it installs it just fine, then i find the "adept" package still selected for install (upgrade), as though i still haven't pressed the "apply" button. please help me... upgrade adept. |
| 15:20.29 | Eulex | abrotman, ah. |
| 15:20.33 | Nwallins | fireba11: traceroute is up to 13 * * * i don't think it will come back with any info |
| 15:20.35 | Gnea | !tell Greves about ask |
| 15:20.36 | abrotman | ejofee: apt-get install adept |
| 15:20.36 | Eulex | abrotman, ty |
| 15:20.55 | GaiaX11 | lftp ftp.freebsd.org:/> fxp-passive-source |
| 15:20.56 | ejofee | abrotman: so you think it's just a synaptic error? |
| 15:20.58 | GaiaX11 | Unknown command `fxp-passive-source' |
| 15:21.03 | Greves | Gnea: umm... i already asked, what's your point? |
| 15:21.06 | PerfDave | !drxx Greves |
| 15:21.07 | dpkg | Greves: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:21.17 | Gnea | Greves: need more information |
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| 15:21.41 | abrotman | ejofee: i don't use synaptic :) |
| 15:21.50 | harm1988 | what is a simple to setup FTP program? |
| 15:21.57 | kspath | Nwallins: what about mtr and ping do they get through? |
| 15:21.59 | PerfDave | harm1988: konqueror |
| 15:22.00 | abrotman | apt-get install proftpd |
| 15:22.05 | fireba11 | Nwallins: it it did hit 12 hosts it should be at the destination anyway .. you can always try another morror of course |
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| 15:22.19 | Gnea | GaiaX11: lftp :~> set ftp:passive-mode 1 |
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| 15:22.35 | harm1988 | which one do you guys suggest i use so my friends can easily upload their websites to their respective folders? |
| 15:22.37 | Gnea | Greves: sarge? which kernel? what video card? |
| 15:22.52 | PerfDave | harm1988: Konqueror :) |
| 15:22.57 | kspath | Nwallins: the problem is the firewall might be letting it out but not allowing the traffic back in to you |
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| 15:23.03 | Nwallins | i think you are right |
| 15:23.04 | ejofee | abrotman: still the same error. adept still stays on the "upgradable" list. so it is, just as i had assumed, an apt-get error. |
| 15:23.06 | Nwallins | kspath ^ |
| 15:23.22 | harm1988 | ok thank you ill go readup on konquerer :D |
| 15:23.24 | harm1988 | thank u |
| 15:23.26 | Nwallins | i can't even traceroute google.com from inside the network.. from home i can |
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| 15:23.29 | mzilikazi | somehow my hwclock keeps getting reset on each boot - cmos batt is brand new - ideas? |
| 15:23.30 | abrotman | ejofee: you used apt-get install? |
| 15:23.41 | abrotman | use ntp |
| 15:23.54 | ejofee | abrotman: yes |
| 15:23.55 | kspath | Nwallins: at good/bad places they have more than one layer of firewalls |
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| 15:24.07 | mzilikazi | abrotman: well thanks but that is not a fix |
| 15:24.08 | ejofee | abrotman: network time protocol?! |
| 15:24.08 | abrotman | ejofee: did you try apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 15:24.09 | EtherNet | uw-imapd is imap server? |
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| 15:24.15 | Nwallins | kspath: ping works |
| 15:24.16 | abrotman | ejofee: not for you |
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| 15:24.21 | dbi | mzilikazi: apt-get install ntpdate ? will not fix the cmos, but at least will work around it |
| 15:24.24 | ejofee | abrotman: ohh :)) |
| 15:24.25 | fireba11 | mzilikazi: might be broken .. just put ntpdate in boot ... |
| 15:24.35 | harm1988 | ... konqeurer requires KDE-desktop. My server doesnt have KDE :P so what FTP is good then/ |
| 15:24.42 | abrotman | mzilikazi: getting reset to what ? |
| 15:25.01 | Nwallins | traceroute sends a 'malformed' icmp packet right? it's not just a simple ping, right? |
| 15:25.06 | mzilikazi | abrotman: seems to vary |
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| 15:25.28 | abrotman | mzilikazi: that's not very helpful :) |
| 15:25.33 | kspath | Nwallins: most often ftp is impacted by various firewalls and firewall configurations because of the bizarre/interesting way ftp works |
| 15:25.35 | mzilikazi | indeed :) |
| 15:25.42 | abrotman | mzilikazi: did you try to use ntp to set the hwclock ? |
| 15:25.44 | mzilikazi | ok i return later w/ something useful |
| 15:25.52 | ejofee | abrotman: i thought you were implying apt-get somehow depended on the correct time (which confused me) |
| 15:25.58 | Nwallins | kspath: ah, so the gpg keyserver is using ftp |
| 15:26.05 | mzilikazi | yes ntp works fine but the situation is that network isn;t always available |
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| 15:26.18 | sep | Nwallins, no it sends packets with ttl low so it gets replies from each hop |
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| 15:26.26 | Nwallins | sep: ah yes, thanks |
| 15:26.30 | abrotman | mzilikazi: and if you set it in the bios ? |
| 15:26.33 | sep | wel starting low and increasing until reaching end or max ttl |
| 15:26.47 | mzilikazi | abrotman: still getting reset somehow |
| 15:27.07 | abrotman | mzilikazi: there's no formula for the clock issue? |
| 15:27.15 | abrotman | like .. your time +2 hours ? |
| 15:27.17 | sep | Nwallins, and you can do that with icmp or udp, |
| 15:27.27 | kspath | Nwallins: I do not know what the key server is using. I thought you were downloading a file that is/was the key. Sorry |
| 15:27.34 | mzilikazi | will have to look closer |
| 15:27.38 | fireba11 | mzilikazi: got a box that keeps resetting to 1.1.1979 ... if you always got net connection no swat, but without its anyoing :-) |
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| 15:28.05 | mzilikazi | 1.1.1979 haha |
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| 15:28.12 | Nwallins | kspath: i was doing according to: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys |
| 15:28.24 | Nwallins | never used gpg explicitly before, so.. i'm not sure what i'm doing ;) |
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| 15:28.39 | kspath | Nwallins: there is more than one kind of traceroute program and more than one kind of ping program they use different protocols and methods I am trying to explain it from a higher or more global view |
| 15:28.59 | Nwallins | kspath: sure.. i am using etch standard |
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| 15:29.34 | kspath | Nwallins: ok I am using sarge |
| 15:29.50 | kspath | Nwallins: I apparently will be of no assistance to you |
| 15:30.07 | Nwallins | it's been helpful so far.. thanks :) |
| 15:30.15 | GaiaX11 | I did lftp :~> set ftp:passive-mode 1 |
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| 15:30.30 | GaiaX11 | lftp :~> open ftp.freebsd.org |
| 15:30.31 | kspath | Nwallins: I will trust you on that. As long as I did not confuse you. |
| 15:31.02 | GaiaX11 | lftp ftp.freebsd.org:~> ls |
| 15:31.19 | Nwallins | traceroute -I works inside my network! kspath: thanks, no confusion |
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| 15:31.24 | GaiaX11 | ls: Access failed: 550 Passive connection must come from same host as control connection |
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| 15:31.41 | GaiaX11 | All again, Gnea. |
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| 15:33.09 | GaiaX11 | How can i check ftp ip, ftp mode, ftp-data etc. Is it in the iptables? |
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| 15:34.13 | sep | seriously use SFTP and skip the whole issue |
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| 15:37.20 | uws | Apt suddenly complains about "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" when upgrading unstable packages. Do I need to import a new key into apt-key? if so, where do I find that key? |
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| 15:38.59 | karrot-x | to my knowledge, if i'm running an AMD 64 i should still get i386 right? |
| 15:39.00 | tarzeau | !topicsmite uws |
| 15:39.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon uws. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 15:39.10 | tarzeau | karrot-x: exactly |
| 15:39.35 | karrot-x | damn, i threw away my old sarge i386 thinking i wasn't going to use it |
| 15:39.46 | karrot-x | and downloaded the ia-64, thinking it was "intel/amd-64" |
| 15:39.51 | Supaplex | karrot-x: the netinstall cd is tiny |
| 15:39.52 | karrot-x | sadness, :( |
| 15:39.57 | newb | tarzeau, really you would use i386? |
| 15:40.01 | Supaplex | just grab a gnu one |
| 15:40.02 | tarzeau | karrot-x: still no netboot/netinstall? |
| 15:40.12 | karrot-x | Supaplex tarzeau i'm doing net install |
| 15:40.20 | tarzeau | newb: no *i* would use alpha or sparc |
| 15:40.22 | karrot-x | but i stilled downloaded the i386 a few months ago |
| 15:40.25 | tarzeau | newb: but yes i386 |
| 15:40.43 | karrot-x | i'd use sparc to if solaris wasn't on that machine |
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| 15:40.53 | tarzeau | karrot-x: you can have dualboot |
| 15:41.01 | tarzeau | karrot-x: or remove solaris completely. what sparc? |
| 15:41.04 | uws | tarzeau: Ah, I already imported the key, but didn't know you need to run apt-get update afterwards. |
| 15:41.08 | Supaplex | we could call a wahhhbulance |
| 15:41.15 | tarzeau | uws: i didn't know either |
| 15:41.28 | kspath | when will ftp die already |
| 15:41.34 | karrot-x | tarzeau: i've got a u2, a sa 5000, and a 670mp |
| 15:41.35 | Koudelkaa | anyone here uses a ati card for gaming? |
| 15:41.47 | Supaplex | ?anyone |
| 15:41.50 | tarzeau | Koudelkaa: yeah i play nethack on mine |
| 15:41.51 | Supaplex | !anyone |
| 15:41.52 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 15:41.55 | cr3 | I'm trying to install Debian on a laptop which only has a floppy drive and network, but I'd like to resize the existing FAT partition. how can I do that without proprietary software like partition magic? |
| 15:42.31 | newb | use parted |
| 15:42.31 | azeem | cr3: the installer can resize FAT partitions |
| 15:42.31 | Koudelkaa | hum, more 3d games >< |
| 15:42.37 | Koudelkaa | ex, wc3 |
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| 15:42.55 | karrot-x | konfuzed: i used to play on my 9800 pro |
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| 15:43.02 | ejofee | in liferea, how do i delete all news from a feed with more than 20 news? |
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| 15:43.07 | cr3 | azeem: cool, thanks. |
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| 15:43.30 | karrot-x | when fedex does overnight, does it really take until 3pm? |
| 15:43.31 | tarzeau | ejofee: still lifeera thing? |
| 15:43.53 | Gnea | karrot-x: it can |
| 15:44.06 | karrot-x | damn, i've been waiting since last monday for this card |
| 15:44.14 | Gnea | uhm. |
| 15:44.18 | karrot-x | kspath: do you have a pci-e board? |
| 15:44.22 | Gnea | they didn't give you a tracking #? |
| 15:44.33 | Koudelkaa | i need help installing ati drivers |
| 15:44.39 | karrot-x | Gnea: they did, but the estimated delivery time says 3pm like it should |
| 15:44.47 | karrot-x | standard overnight is "before 3pm delivery" |
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| 15:45.18 | kspath | karrot-x: I do not do games. Games do not do me either. |
| 15:45.24 | Gnea | !tell Koudelkaa about ati |
| 15:45.38 | Koudelkaa | Gnea allready read that one |
| 15:45.43 | karrot-x | kspath: that really has nothing to do with it |
| 15:45.57 | karrot-x | kspath: agp cards are actually more expensive now then most comparable pci-e |
| 15:45.58 | Koudelkaa | but it seems to be outdated for me |
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| 15:46.09 | ejofee | tarzeau: still |
| 15:46.17 | kspath | karrot-x: I never purchased AGP because I saw that AGP was temp |
| 15:46.34 | ejofee | tarzeau: i still hope there must be some feature. liferea simply can't be that idiotically designed. |
| 15:46.37 | karrot-x | kspath: temp? 6 years? |
| 15:46.46 | Gnea | !tell koudelkaa about ask |
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| 15:47.01 | karrot-x | i'd say that's a pretty good run |
| 15:47.17 | kspath | karrot-x: yes and my current PCI cards will work in any machine with standard PCI and newer slots though no all boards come that way |
| 15:47.24 | tarzeau | ejofee: hahaha |
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| 15:47.50 | tarzeau | ejofee: you know, i've heard some rumours like "gnome is idiot proof. so idiots can use it and nothing can go wrong" |
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| 15:48.04 | tarzeau | ejofee: like doing so means removing all useful buttons it had |
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| 15:48.27 | tarzeau | ejofee: for new software that means, they can leave away all the useful features from scratch and save alot of development time |
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| 15:48.51 | PerfDave | tarzeau: No, it's "Gnome is for idiots and doesn't do anything" ;) |
| 15:48.52 | ejofee | tarzeau :)) |
| 15:48.53 | tarzeau | ejofee: but do you know USTL? |
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| 15:49.06 | ejofee | tarzeau: what is ustl? |
| 15:49.08 | tarzeau | PerfDave: ah yeah, right to the point. can i quote you on that? |
| 15:49.13 | tarzeau | !USTL |
| 15:49.15 | Koudelkaa | do i need x.org to use ati opengl and 3d with a ati card? or does it work with xfree86 too? |
| 15:49.25 | tarzeau | dpkg USTL is idiot, it's UTSL |
| 15:49.25 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 15:49.27 | tarzeau | !UTSL |
| 15:49.28 | dpkg | i guess utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 15:49.51 | Gnea | Koudelkaa: what ati card? |
| 15:49.57 | PerfDave | Koudelkaa: Depends on the ATI card. There are 3D-accelerated drivers for xfree86 - /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 15:49.59 | Koudelkaa | x800gto^ |
| 15:50.01 | Koudelkaa | 2 |
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| 15:50.53 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to install a network install of Debian and make the installer pull the files from my local mirror rather than from debian.org |
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| 15:51.32 | karrot-x | Koudelkaa: is that the diamond card? |
| 15:51.51 | tzafrir_laptop | I managed to direct the installer to my custom preseed file through preseed/url . However I can't figure how to make it use my local copy |
| 15:51.52 | bibe | tzafrir_laptop : I have some packages in a local debian mirror, and I use 'deb file:///home/data/pub/debian-bibe/ sarge main' in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:52.21 | Koudelkaa | karrot-x ? |
| 15:52.21 | tzafrir_laptop | bibe, there is no sources.list at install time |
| 15:52.41 | tzafrir_laptop | The installer is not exactly apt |
| 15:53.22 | tzafrir_laptop | (I need to use a small udeb of my own at install-time) |
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| 15:53.59 | bibe | tzafrir_laptop : I thought you were talking about the package install just after rebooting |
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| 15:54.48 | mbn2 | trying to figure how to enable PDO extension for php under debian sarge. any idea ? |
| 15:55.16 | tzafrir_laptop | mbn2, looked at php.ini? |
| 15:55.56 | mbn2 | yep, searched for pdo. nothing |
| 15:55.59 | Supaplex | but php.ini is ugly! |
| 15:56.04 | Supaplex | jk |
| 15:56.07 | cupid | hello,everyone |
| 15:56.32 | mbn2 | phpinfo(); say pdo is disabled. |
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| 15:57.55 | bullzito | hi |
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| 15:58.13 | cupidsd | goodnight |
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| 16:00.07 | kupson | I found some weirdness and cannot verify if it's a bug or feature, should I report bug in debian BTS? |
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| 16:01.19 | vin` | kupson: check if anything similar is already reported. |
| 16:01.30 | newb | any recommended debian ndiswrapper howto page? |
| 16:02.21 | Segora | xterm complains about not finding /dev/tty any more. It seems udev does no longer create that. Is this a bug in the xterm or in the udev package? |
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| 16:02.33 | karrot-x | if i'm running a amd 3000+ 64 bit, what 2.6 kernel package should i get? |
| 16:02.40 | karrot-x | the 386 again? or should i go 686? |
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| 16:02.58 | karrot-x | because i think this arch is 68-64 right? |
| 16:03.09 | vin` | karrot-x: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 16:03.21 | azeem | karrot-x: k7, probably, if you want to run on 32 bits |
| 16:03.39 | karrot-x | azeem: no i want to run on 64 |
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| 16:03.55 | azeem | karrot-x: then you need to install amd64, or build your own kernel I guess |
| 16:04.02 | azeem | or dunno, maybe there is a way |
| 16:04.07 | tzafrir_laptop | newb, start with the docs of the ndiswrappers-related packages |
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| 16:04.20 | Segora | is /dev/tty deprecated? |
| 16:04.22 | PerfDave | There are amd64-optimised kernel in 32-bit Sarge |
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| 16:04.54 | Lounis | hi can you tell me how to know wich packages depends of a the package gtk-sharp? |
| 16:05.04 | vin` | !ndiswrapper one-liner |
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| 16:05.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, ndiswrapper one-liner is apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
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| 16:05.43 | clars | I been going with amd64_debian_sarge for a long time - and I dont like it because I dont get ex. openOffice, flash to firefox and so on |
| 16:05.48 | TGoC | Hey, i have a serious problem |
| 16:05.54 | TGoC | I seem to have a cpu load of 400% |
| 16:06.07 | TGoC | and the only application in my TOP showing up only uses 10% |
| 16:06.14 | TGoC | wich is mysqld |
| 16:06.20 | TGoC | i have debian sarge 3.1 |
| 16:06.21 | PerfDave | clars: Despite the clear documentation on how to achieve exactly that with Debian amd64? :) |
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| 16:07.14 | newb | will try debian ndiswrapper install again, worked with suse but not debian |
| 16:07.36 | newb | not sure why, but the driver bcwl5.inf didn't work with debian |
| 16:07.45 | newb | but did with suse |
| 16:08.04 | TGoC | I seem to have a cpu load of 300-400% (load average: 3.* 2.* 3.*) and the only app in my TOP using CPU is mysqld with 10% is it me or is the server screwed? |
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| 16:08.43 | eliteforce | hi |
| 16:08.44 | newb | debian has some distro specific install cmds, stuff like fakeroot, never see that before |
| 16:09.06 | clars | PerfDave, yes Despite that |
| 16:10.00 | eliteforce | i have a rt2500 wlan card and the driver is loaded, i set some stuff with iwconfig but i cant get a connection (0rx packets) |
| 16:10.17 | eliteforce | is it possible to look up for available access points? |
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| 16:10.46 | chealer | eliteforce: did you try $ iwlist eth? scanning ? |
| 16:11.36 | newb | wouldn't it be: $ iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 16:12.29 | eliteforce | ok i found the access point hmm :D |
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| 16:13.02 | eliteforce | which mode do i have to use? |
| 16:13.17 | jethro | are the security officers for debian on crack? why send us the DSA for the integer overflow TODAY when the vuln was announced and fixed (as per changelog.Debian.gz) in early december? |
| 16:13.18 | chealer | managed? |
| 16:13.48 | jethro | err interger overflow in perl even |
| 16:14.21 | eliteforce | i dont get a connection :/ |
| 16:14.32 | Nwallins | is there a non-trivial difference between subkeys.gpg.net and subkeys.pgp.net? |
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| 16:15.41 | newb | those would be questions for a security board, eh? |
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| 16:16.53 | Nwallins | i am just curious why dpkg recommends ('2006 key') the gpg program with a pgp keyserver |
| 16:17.02 | jethro | oh I almost forgot this channel is full of either clueless people quietly gathering knowledge, or arrogant but still clueless people trying to show they know a lot, or a very few knowledgeable regulars. |
| 16:17.06 | jethro | Nwallins: topic |
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| 16:17.18 | Nwallins | jethro, yes that is the topic |
| 16:17.34 | aTypical | Hi, all. Is this a good book to have for someone wanting to learn Debian - Debian GNU/Linux Desktop Survival Guide? |
| 16:17.35 | PerfDave | clars: That's a shame :) |
| 16:17.53 | eliteforce | chealer: i see my access point essid=WLAN, mode=managed, encryption on, channel 11 and i set all this options with iwconfig .. but no connection |
| 16:17.56 | PerfDave | aTypical: Never heard of it. I'm guessing it'll be out of date by now :) |
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| 16:18.11 | aTypical | Oh. |
| 16:18.15 | simpletron | hi |
| 16:18.24 | chealer | eliteforce: sorry but I'm not sure about what you mean by connection. I don't know much about wireless |
| 16:18.29 | PerfDave | Nwallins: PGP and GnuPG use the OpenPGP standard and are (mostly) compatiable with each other. |
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| 16:18.37 | mzilikazi | atrus: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible is a nice book |
| 16:18.45 | mzilikazi | erre @ aTypical |
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| 16:18.50 | Nwallins | ah, thanks PerfDave |
| 16:19.11 | aTypical | mzilikazi, thank you. |
| 16:19.12 | daisuke_ | on debian stable with 2.6.8-2, im running raid5 as /dev/md2 with reiserfs 3.6 and the majority of data i write there is being corrupted |
| 16:19.32 | daisuke_ | dmesg isnt showing any errors what so ever, any one have any suggestions? |
| 16:19.46 | PerfDave | !ricerfs |
| 16:19.47 | dpkg | i guess ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 16:20.13 | simpletron | question: i have the 14 cds of debian-sarge, how can i create the DVD isos using my 14 cds? |
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| 16:20.32 | blowfish | hello |
| 16:20.34 | PerfDave | simpletron: jigdo, or jigit |
| 16:20.39 | blowfish | i get some wierd error trying to install bzip2 |
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| 16:22.04 | Geekbr | PerfDave, jigdo |
| 16:22.29 | blowfish | error in control file: `Index' value missing for type HTML at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 641, <IN> line 13. |
| 16:22.32 | PerfDave | Geekbr: Sorry? |
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| 16:22.35 | blowfish | there is some solving issue for this problem? |
| 16:22.57 | Geekbr | PerfDave simpletron: jigdo, or jigit |
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| 16:23.04 | PerfDave | Geekbr: Yes? |
| 16:23.09 | scorphus | how do I search for contents in a package? just like I do aptitude search ~ddescription for package's description... |
| 16:23.16 | Geekbr | hehe yeap PerfDave |
| 16:23.19 | chealer | blowfish: do you let us guess which release you're using? |
| 16:23.43 | bbrazil | scorphus: apt-cache search |
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| 16:23.55 | PerfDave | Geekbr: I have no idea what you're talking about. Please try to speak coherently on IRC, it helps others help you. |
| 16:24.01 | Geekbr | bbrazil, where you from |
| 16:24.10 | bbrazil | Geekbr: /whois |
| 16:24.36 | blowfish | chealer sid |
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| 16:24.47 | PerfDave | scorphus: apt-file |
| 16:24.50 | Geekbr | PerfDave, im just think thats a question |
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| 16:25.04 | chealer | blowfish: so you're getting issues with unstable? impressive. check the BTS |
| 16:25.05 | PerfDave | Geekbr: I'm sorry, I still can't work out what you're trying to say. |
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| 16:25.36 | elSinuX | helo does any body know the PPc chanel? thks |
| 16:25.53 | PerfDave | !tell elSinuX -about ppc |
| 16:25.55 | chealer | !tell elSinuX about ppc |
| 16:25.57 | scorphus | thanks both bbrazil and PerfDave |
| 16:26.01 | stranger_ | !spam |
| 16:26.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
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| 16:27.31 | aybr | where and how can activate " APT::FORCE-LOOPBREAK " option?? |
| 16:27.47 | eliteforce | chealer: i get an ip address with dhclient ra0 but e.g. cant ping google |
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| 16:28.02 | chealer | eliteforce: which release do you use? |
| 16:28.59 | eliteforce | chealer: stable |
| 16:29.00 | PerfDave | aybr: man apt.conf |
| 16:29.32 | chealer | eliteforce: does the connection require some security mechanism? |
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| 16:30.00 | eliteforce | chealer: yes ive got the key |
| 16:30.14 | chealer | eliteforce: what kind of security is it? |
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| 16:31.25 | jair | hello eveybody :) |
| 16:31.30 | eliteforce | chealer: wep 128b |
| 16:31.30 | jair | how are you doing today? |
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| 16:31.58 | jair | I am setting up my postfix email server in debian 3.1 I am loving it. |
| 16:32.14 | Ted | exit |
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| 16:32.19 | eliteforce | chealer: hmm now i dont even see the ap with iwlist anymore, cause i dis an enabled the card with the button :S |
| 16:32.40 | chealer | eliteforce: ok. sorry but I don't know how WEP works. did you try using the Qt RaConfig2500 GUI? |
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| 16:33.03 | eliteforce | chealer: nope, dont have any gui stuff here :P |
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| 16:33.32 | matadon | Odd SNMP problem: 'hrProcessorFrwID' gives 'zeroDotZero', rather than CPU load information. |
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| 16:33.39 | eliteforce | chealer: do i have to enable the card again? O_o |
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| 16:34.24 | chealer | eliteforce: I'm not sure which button you're talking about. if nobody else knows, maybe #wireless or #rt2500 can help |
| 16:34.50 | eliteforce | chealer: the wlan power button on my notebook lol |
| 16:34.59 | Friday__ | Hi, where i can find information about debian sarge(kernel) hardware support? Can't install sarge on Adaptec 2130slp (SCSI-RAID) ... |
| 16:35.11 | chealer | eliteforce: ok, I don't know how that works |
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| 16:35.34 | eliteforce | chealer: thx.. |
| 16:35.35 | PerfDave | Friday__: Have you tried using the 2.6 kernel for the installer? |
| 16:35.43 | chealer | Friday__: everywhere on the internet, usually |
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| 16:35.52 | Friday__ | PerfDave, yes |
| 16:35.57 | goron | What is a good function plotter? I have kmplot, but e.g. I can't pan. |
| 16:35.59 | eliteforce | anyone else here with some expierience in wlan? |
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| 16:36.40 | Friday__ | PerfDave, debian 2.6 work perfect with 2120, can't detect 2130 -> no info about in dmesg .. |
| 16:37.03 | sandman | Is "dd" not supposed to work with copy protection and things like that? Because I hate CDs, and I have lots of hdd space, and I can't seem to be able to use my iso images I made with dd |
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| 16:37.07 | covener | When i set my true screen resolution in my xserver, gaim fonts are enormous but firefox toolbars aren't -- both change in response to font settings in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 but gaim responds to gnome-font-propertie 'DPI' slider while firefox doesn't. Anyone have any hints or know how to set the equiv .gtkrc-2.0 setting as manipulating the slider? |
| 16:37.43 | PerfDave | Friday__: When you say "Debian 2.6", do you mean "the 2.6.8 kernel provided with the Debian 3.1 installer"? |
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| 16:37.59 | sandman | With extra version numbering confusion added. |
| 16:38.07 | sandman | Because versioning is just so damn confusing. |
| 16:38.10 | beefcake | <death09>my girlfriend broke up with me and sent me pix of her and her new boyfriend in bed |
| 16:38.11 | beefcake | <ktp753>ouch. |
| 16:38.11 | beefcake | <death09>yeah.i sent them to her dad |
| 16:38.12 | Friday__ | PerfDave, yes |
| 16:38.45 | sandman | beefcake: That is some funny shit. |
| 16:38.48 | PerfDave | Friday__: OK, it helps if you're specific when asking questions. |
| 16:39.10 | PerfDave | Friday__: Have you tried googling for your SCSI card model number and "Debian"? |
| 16:39.23 | sandman | beefcake: I've always wanted to do something like that. Unfortunately, I've never had anyone cheat on me or break up with me like that yet :) But I still have hope. Someday, someday... |
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| 16:40.03 | demo-Ben | hey all |
| 16:40.14 | Nwallins | beefcake: tell her you used to wash your crack and crotch with her loofah |
| 16:40.21 | sandman | lol |
| 16:40.49 | eliteforce | argh no one ever used wlan :S |
| 16:40.58 | Nwallins | eliteforce: i gave up one time... |
| 16:40.59 | PerfDave | !anybody use |
| 16:41.01 | dpkg | No, no-one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 16:41.05 | demo-Ben | I was wondering, I got a hub from a budd of mine for ICS, but theres one thing Im wondering, can I network my linux box and my home pc? |
| 16:41.16 | Nwallins | demo-Ben: yes |
| 16:41.20 | Friday__ | PerfDave, i search info in google , but no answer found. This controller pci-x , my motherboard is Intel L440GX+ , debian support pci-x ? |
| 16:41.21 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: Your Linux box is a home PC :) |
| 16:41.23 | demo-Ben | sweeeet |
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| 16:41.40 | PerfDave | Friday__: No idea, I always check whether the hardware I want is supported before I buy it ;) |
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| 16:42.17 | demo-Ben | I was curious, because my WinXP computer cant see my Linux box. |
| 16:42.28 | demo-Ben | and visa versa |
| 16:42.48 | Nwallins | demo-Ben: there are many layers to networking.. first figure out what each box's IP address is, and then make sure each box can ping the other |
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| 16:43.01 | eliteforce | nwallins: noob :P |
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| 16:43.32 | FromTO | has anyone tried to use airport wireless router with debian. I am trying to see whether there are any major conflicts before I purchase |
| 16:43.55 | demo-Ben | ooooh, okie! does the machines addy remain static? and how can I find each? |
| 16:43.58 | n3x | Airport Router wont have an issue with ANY os if it is ethernet |
| 16:44.02 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: What do you mean by "can't see"? |
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| 16:44.44 | demo-Ben | well, XP cant find any other computers |
| 16:44.59 | Nwallins | demo-Ben: the IP addresses are static if each host sets its own... or they can use DHCP to get one automatically, in which case it will change from time to time |
| 16:45.14 | demo-Ben | ooh okay |
| 16:45.33 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: What do you mean by "can't find"? |
| 16:45.58 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: It makes it much easier for people to help you if you're not being vague in your questions and descriptions |
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| 16:46.24 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: You may want to type "/msg dpkg smart questions" into your IRC program, and follow the link therein |
| 16:46.38 | demo-Ben | oh, sorry bout that, when I click "view workgroup computers |
| 16:47.06 | Nwallins | demo-Ben: XP's 'network gui' will only find other computers that are using the SMB protocol appropriately. that is a higher layer than you have set up by merely putting the two machines on the same network segment |
| 16:47.08 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: OK, that's great :) |
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| 16:47.42 | limpio | i'm using the only box with debian in a ms lan, installed the basic packgages:cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-bsd etc |
| 16:47.56 | demo-Ben | :) |
| 16:47.57 | limpio | went to mozilla http://localhost:631/ |
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| 16:48.03 | Viperchen | Hi |
| 16:48.04 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: Yeah, what Nwallins said. If you want XP to see and access shares on your Linux box, you'll need to run Samba, which is the file server for the SMB/CIFS (Windows network share) protocols |
| 16:48.04 | Nwallins | limpio: that's my environment too... also trying to set up cups ATM |
| 16:48.16 | demo-Ben | okay |
| 16:48.24 | limpio | what do i choose ffrom that list? |
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| 16:48.31 | demo-Ben | i have the samba configuration open |
| 16:48.37 | tzafrir_laptop | demo-Ben, to expose it to the "netowrk neighbourhood", you need a properly configured samba server |
| 16:48.51 | Viperchen | I just compiled the new 2.6.15 Kernel and got an image to boot. But i did not get an initrd image? how to get this? |
| 16:49.18 | tzafrir_laptop | Viperchen, mkinitrd ? |
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| 16:49.28 | TonyRad | Got a small issue: I'm using Debian and Samba. I need to have my file sharing set up so that when a file is created on the samba home share of a user it is set with the file permissions of 775. I set the umask to 002 in as many places as I could think. However, when I try I still only get the file permissions of 700, even though it seems the default umask was 022. Anybody have any ideas on how I can fix this? |
| 16:49.39 | jair | guys yesterday I was banned with no reason here in #debian and I always enter to this channel with no problem, it is some kind of way to test why and ho banned me? |
| 16:49.40 | tzafrir_laptop | Though I personally rather make a kernel image that does not need an initrd |
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| 16:49.55 | jair | I would like to know what was the situation |
| 16:50.09 | Viperchen | thx i'll try |
| 16:50.14 | PerfDave | Viperchen: There should be an --initrd (or silar) option to make-kpkg |
| 16:50.14 | bbrazil | TonyRad: force create mode |
| 16:50.15 | demo-Ben | yeah, I have no idea how to properly configure samba |
| 16:50.27 | Friday__ | PerfDave, Managment Software for RAID in CD with this controller based on linux system with 2.4.19 kernel , module aacraid - on adaptec website modules for 2.6.x and 2.4.x equal for RAID 2120 and 2130, 2120 controller is detect fine and work, but 2130 is'n detect :-( |
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| 16:50.30 | airox | Hi |
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| 16:50.41 | TonyRad | How do I do that bbrazil? |
| 16:50.50 | PerfDave | demo-Ben: The documentation in the samba-doc package is awesome |
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| 16:50.51 | bbrazil | TonyRad: man smb.conf |
| 16:50.55 | tzafrir_laptop | TonyRad, did you set file permissions explcicitly in the shares configus in smb.conf? |
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| 16:51.08 | PerfDave | Friday__: Try e-mailing Adaptec support? |
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| 16:51.43 | demo-Ben | cool |
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| 16:51.53 | airox | Is there support in stable or testing for POSIX Access Control Lists on EXT3 or EXT2 ? |
| 16:51.55 | TonyRad | I set the permissions in my login.def file, the .bash_profile file, and in the [homes] and [global] shares of smb.conf |
| 16:52.19 | Viperchen | reboot... |
| 16:52.34 | Friday__ | PerfDave, my english isn't good for this. And adaptec hasn't regional support :-( |
| 16:52.35 | tzafrir_laptop | TonyRad, those are relevant to files you create from the shell, not to files created through samba |
| 16:52.40 | dondelelcaro | jair: sorry; I think you got banned accidentally there during the flood. |
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| 16:53.00 | uup | Hello all ! |
| 16:53.01 | Haukkari | Pirate walks into a bar, bartender notices a steering wheel sticking out of the pirate's fly. The bartender says: "Hey pirate, what's with the steering wheel, isn't that awkward?" The pirate says: "Nyarr, it's drivin' me nuts!" |
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| 16:53.07 | Haukkari | sorry, offtopic. :) I'll be gone now |
| 16:53.12 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@adsl-67-37-183-249.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 16:53.13 | TonyRad | So I need to change something in my smb.conf file? |
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| 16:53.43 | petemc | TonyRad: create mask |
| 16:54.05 | jair | dondelelcaro, ahh ok I see |
| 16:54.09 | TonyRad | And that goes inside of the [global] share? Or elsewhere? It's already in [global] is why I ask? |
| 16:54.20 | petemc | TonyRad: it should be there already |
| 16:54.24 | jair | dondelelcaro, yes because it was somthing like bot doing flood |
| 16:54.58 | jair | dondelelcaro, but do you know for how long I will be banned? |
| 16:55.04 | dondelelcaro | jair: right; I think I completed to your name while I was trying to solve the problem, and didn't notice that you weren't flooding |
| 16:55.09 | dondelelcaro | jair: I've already unbanned you. |
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| 16:55.16 | uup | Someone got mounting an already mounted directory through NFS ? |
| 16:55.22 | TonyRad | petemc: I actually just added that in there today |
| 16:55.26 | PerfDave | airox: The package "acl" contains acl management utilities but I'm not sure about ext3, I've only used it with xfs |
| 16:55.29 | petemc | TonyRad: and its not working? |
| 16:55.31 | dondelelcaro | jair: in the future, just /msg the person who banned you, or /msg one of the operators who are active. |
| 16:55.35 | TonyRad | Yeah |
| 16:55.46 | petemc | TonyRad: you added it? its in the default debian config... |
| 16:56.02 | TonyRad | It wasn't the default config |
| 16:56.11 | PerfDave | Whoa, setting up a printer with CUPS and the KDE print dialogue was almost perfect |
| 16:56.13 | TonyRad | The guy before me changed it around before |
| 16:56.32 | petemc | TonyRad: well, if you grab samba from sid, it is |
| 16:56.41 | uup | bye, bye ! |
| 16:56.44 | jair | dondelelcaro, and how I know which one on the channel is an operator? |
| 16:56.57 | dondelelcaro | jair: /msg dpkg ops |
| 16:57.09 | jair | thank you very much |
| 16:57.10 | dondelelcaro | jair: or /msg dpkg ops help; FE |
| 16:57.23 | petemc | or /msg chanserv access #channel list |
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| 16:58.13 | iostream | Hi, what variable in bash contains STDIN? |
| 16:58.22 | TonyRad | It is also setting the files to be owned by root as well. |
| 16:58.32 | dondelelcaro | petemc: assuming we've made the access list accessible, that'll work |
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| 16:59.54 | iostream | Got it, read VAR... $VAR.. |
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| 17:00.45 | TonyRad | ... I think I found my err |
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| 17:01.36 | TonyRad | If I want to set permissions to be 775 then I need the line to read "create mask = 775" or "create mask = 002"? |
| 17:02.06 | Nwallins | 002, i think |
| 17:02.13 | blondie | o.O |
| 17:02.21 | blondie | no |
| 17:02.27 | blondie | TonyRad: 775 |
| 17:02.38 | blondie | create mask isn't really a mask, it's a mode c.c |
| 17:02.42 | blondie | it's badly named |
| 17:02.54 | TonyRad | Yeah |
| 17:02.58 | TonyRad | That was what I had wrong then |
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| 17:03.06 | blondie | however, I wouldn't use 775 |
| 17:03.29 | blondie | I'd use 664 |
| 17:03.33 | blondie | for failes |
| 17:03.35 | blondie | *files |
| 17:03.47 | abrotman | if you trust the people in your group |
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| 17:04.23 | blondie | I don't like to give files executable permission by default |
| 17:04.32 | blondie | as they very rarely are linux executables :) |
| 17:05.01 | TonyRad | Good point |
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| 17:08.45 | airox | PerfDave: Ok. Can I ask where you have used XFS for ? |
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| 17:09.15 | leafers | how can i install lilo on my linux partition using live cd on a dual boot system? |
| 17:09.22 | PerfDave | airox: I'm not actually doing anything particularly interesting wit it at the moment, I want to play with filesystem snapshots eventualy though |
| 17:09.33 | airox | Ok. |
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| 17:09.50 | leafers | i am using boot magic and it wont boot my linux system |
| 17:09.51 | airox | I wonder if using XFS instead of EXT3 at this moment is right for me. I am running a server. |
| 17:10.01 | rollerbob | hi, how do i install debian via LAN? because i have this old celeron 400mhz that im going to use as my linux box, but it doesnt have a cdrom |
| 17:10.09 | airox | I need to read about XFS I guess. |
| 17:10.16 | PerfDave | rollerbob: Have you read the Installation Manual? |
| 17:10.50 | leafers | i want to install lilo on my linux / partition |
| 17:10.53 | rollerbob | PerfDave: no, sorry |
| 17:10.56 | leafers | not mbr |
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| 17:11.09 | PerfDave | rollerbob: It's very handy if you want to install Debian :) |
| 17:12.02 | harm1988 | how do i uninstall proftpd |
| 17:12.03 | harm1988 | ? |
| 17:12.16 | tzafrir_laptop | apt-get remove proftpd |
| 17:12.34 | tzafrir_laptop | or your preffered interface to apt |
| 17:12.41 | harm1988 | thx :D |
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| 17:13.07 | PhotoJim | has anyone been having trouble with public key errors when doing apt-get update or updates via dselect? or is it just a problem with my mirror? |
| 17:13.21 | Ronin | PhotoJim: /topic |
| 17:13.22 | airox | I had some errors. |
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| 17:13.27 | Nwallins | PhotoJim: topic.. /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 17:13.29 | PhotoJim | oh. ding. too obvious. :) |
| 17:13.35 | PhotoJim | I looked everywhere but there. |
| 17:13.40 | leafers | i wiped out my grub |
| 17:13.48 | harm1988 | does apache have some sort of FTP eqivilent? so my friends can upload stuff to their website dirs? |
| 17:13.52 | rollerbob | PerfDave: im reading it, but it talks about DHCP and BOOTP, is it that possible on a windows network? |
| 17:13.53 | leafers | but linux drive is still intacted |
| 17:14.09 | airox | harm1988: Maybe you mean Webdav ? |
| 17:14.11 | leafers | i want to be able to reach it from boot magic |
| 17:14.17 | harm1988 | webdav = ? |
| 17:14.23 | airox | harm1988: Or just use a FTP server. |
| 17:14.31 | PerfDave | rollerbob: What do you mean by "a windows network"? |
| 17:14.32 | leafers | so i need to lilo my /dev/hdb1 |
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| 17:14.50 | harm1988 | airox.. FTP protocol requires doesnt support namevirtualhosting |
| 17:14.51 | leafers | is there a lilo.exe? |
| 17:15.00 | harm1988 | linux does not use .exe's |
| 17:15.10 | leafers | yea i know |
| 17:15.12 | airox | harm1988: Then I guess you can try webdav. |
| 17:15.21 | tzafrir_laptop | how do I point a network installation (pxe) to my local mirror? I set "d-i mirror/http/mirror" in the preseed file, but the download failes. The installer seems to add '(null)' after my custom mirror name |
| 17:15.23 | harm1988 | ok let me go google it :D |
| 17:15.24 | starfishy | the lilo executable is /sbin/lilo |
| 17:15.25 | leafers | but how do i get lilo on my / linux drive |
| 17:15.25 | airox | harm1988: webdav is also nice because it runs on port 80 |
| 17:15.29 | harm1988 | ^^ |
| 17:15.37 | vin` | !fixmbr |
| 17:15.38 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target), then chroot into it (chroot /target), then run "grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub". |
| 17:15.39 | airox | harm1988: mod_dav or something. |
| 17:15.43 | rollerbob | PerfDave: well... all the computers on my lan use windows. this old celeron will be the only linux box |
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| 17:16.03 | leafers | so if i try that from a terminal |
| 17:16.07 | PerfDave | rollerbob: So what you want to know is whether you can run a DHCP and BOOTP server on Wdinwos? |
| 17:16.17 | harm1988 | webdav seems to have what i want :P |
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| 17:16.29 | airox | harm1988: Great! |
| 17:16.33 | starfishy | that would be more of a question for a windows channel |
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| 17:16.41 | leafers | i would have to uninstall boot magic |
| 17:16.52 | leafers | erase the fat partition that it is on |
| 17:16.54 | rollerbob | PerfDave: well.. yeah, i want to know i can make the celeron boot via LAN (to any of those windows boxes) |
| 17:16.57 | leafers | the regrub |
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| 17:17.30 | airox | Wrong channel perhaps, but does anybody know a utility to check the write and read speed on disks for windows ? Like hdparm is able to ? |
| 17:17.33 | leafers | if i lilo my linux partition boot magic might be able to boot linux |
| 17:17.42 | PerfDave | rollerbob: Perhaps #windows can tell you whether you can run a DHCP or BOOTP server on Windows. I'm pretty sure it can do DHCP but I don't use Windows |
| 17:17.51 | PerfDave | airox: #windows ? |
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| 17:18.00 | airox | PerfDave: Damn you. |
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| 17:18.01 | airox | :) |
| 17:18.08 | bbrazil | airox: copy&paste + system monitor? |
| 17:18.23 | tzafrir_laptop | leafers, rephrase your question. |
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| 17:19.01 | tzafrir_laptop | leafers, a properly configuree lilo / grub (grub is better) can boot any common OS |
| 17:19.15 | nite613 | Trying to compile a driver from a vendor, and I'm getting an error. I realize I should ask the vendor, but the error seems to be coming from my linux includes. Does that make sense? Error msg is: /usr/include/linux/kernel.h:104: error: syntax error before 'size_t' |
| 17:19.34 | nite613 | Are there really syntax errors in my kernel headers?! |
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| 17:19.57 | tzafrir_laptop | leafers, If you have them you don't need another boot loader. Though you'll need to chain-load windows' one |
| 17:19.59 | starfishy | nite: unlikely |
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| 17:20.21 | harm1988 | so where can i actually download and make webdav? |
| 17:20.22 | starfishy | either you are using an outdated C-Compiler or your kernel tree is corrupt |
| 17:20.24 | tzafrir_laptop | nite613, maybe it is written for a different kernel version? |
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| 17:20.49 | nite613 | starfishy: Hmmm. Well I'm using an updated etch, so the compiler isn't too old |
| 17:21.06 | nite613 | tzafrir_laptop: I assume it was written for older kernel versions, but would that create this syntax error? Seems odd thats all |
| 17:21.21 | tzafrir_laptop | nite613, /ur/include/linux is not guaranteed to be your current kernel headers. |
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| 17:21.49 | jade | which version of debian do i want to use with ia64? |
| 17:21.50 | leafers | my boot magic cannot boot my linux drive |
| 17:22.03 | tzafrir_laptop | /usr/include/linux may be different from /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r`/include/linux |
| 17:22.07 | leafers | it sees it but there is no boot loader on the linux partition |
| 17:22.18 | jade | which version of debian can i use with 64-bit Intel® Xeon® processors with Intel® EM64T ? |
| 17:22.23 | leafers | cause i was using grub |
| 17:22.24 | PerfDave | harm1988: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_dav.html |
| 17:22.30 | leafers | and wiped out my mbr |
| 17:22.39 | leafers | now have win xp and debian |
| 17:22.41 | PerfDave | jade: You can use many versions of Debian :) |
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| 17:22.49 | leafers | but boot magic wont boot debian |
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| 17:22.57 | starfishy | why run boot magic at all? use grub for all your booting needs |
| 17:23.06 | jade | PerfDave, is there a version of debian specifically built for this arch? |
| 17:23.09 | leafers | so i want to lilo my linux patition |
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| 17:23.15 | leafers | not mbr |
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| 17:23.24 | leafers | so boot magic can boot it |
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| 17:23.35 | PerfDave | jade: Have you looked for one? |
| 17:23.50 | lpb-oberon | leafers: use lilo |
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| 17:23.58 | leafers | how do i do that |
| 17:24.00 | starfishy | edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo |
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| 17:24.07 | starfishy | read the howto? |
| 17:24.11 | leafers | is it already there |
| 17:24.15 | leafers | yea i am doing that |
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| 17:24.18 | starfishy | is what there? |
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| 17:24.23 | leafers | is that where in debian |
| 17:24.28 | jade | PerfDave, yes, http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/ia64/jigdo-dvd/ but i dont know if it is compatible with the EM64T arch, or if it is only for IA64 |
| 17:24.30 | lpb-oberon | other=/dev/hdb1 |
| 17:24.30 | lpb-oberon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.31 | lpb-oberon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.31 | lpb-oberon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:24.32 | leafers | the lilo.conf file |
| 17:24.37 | starfishy | what does 'that' refer to? |
| 17:24.37 | opnsrc | Ok, I added "opnsrc ALL=(ALL) ALL" to sudoers and now it lets me use sudo on the opnsrc account but it doesn't ask for a root pw or anything |
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| 17:24.46 | opnsrc | how do I make it ask for a root pw before using sudo |
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| 17:24.49 | Impl0z | hi there! |
| 17:24.52 | starfishy | if the lilo package is installed a generic lilo.conf should be there |
| 17:25.00 | leafers | anyway i am using live-cd to reach it |
| 17:25.07 | starfishy | but i still dont understand why you dont cut through the whole tangled mess and boot with grub |
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| 17:25.21 | PerfDave | jade: So what you actually want to know is whether you have an ia64 or em64t system? |
| 17:25.22 | leafers | i also have to set it active |
| 17:25.33 | lpb-oberon | that map-drive option is set because my windows wants to be on hte primary disk |
| 17:25.34 | starfishy | why have two boot loaders one of which has to be updated with every configuration change if you can have one that does everything you want natively? |
| 17:25.37 | leafers | grub will wipe out my windows |
| 17:25.43 | Teolupus | Hello! --- i need your help my friends!!! |
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| 17:25.46 | jade | PerfDave, for the Debian OS, yes |
| 17:25.47 | vin` | leafers: no |
| 17:25.47 | lpb-oberon | starfishy: i like grub |
| 17:25.49 | starfishy | no, it will not! |
| 17:25.53 | airox | leafers: no |
| 17:26.02 | starfishy | who told you grub will wipe out your windows? |
| 17:26.04 | lpb-oberon | but i have never manged to boot windows on hdb with it |
| 17:26.12 | PerfDave | jade: I don't think you question is Debian-specific. |
| 17:26.14 | leafers | i have done it 5 times |
| 17:26.17 | airox | grub will never wipe out windows, maybe you will but ... |
| 17:26.22 | vin` | lpb-oberon: with grub? |
| 17:26.27 | lpb-oberon | si |
| 17:26.28 | Teolupus | I'm doing a bash script and i must cut and string between two different strings..... Do we hava a SED master here? |
| 17:26.31 | starfishy | if you install the grub debian package and do an update-grub it will even automagically add your windows partition to its config file |
| 17:26.39 | PerfDave | jade: However, I suggest you Google for "debian ia64 em64t", it seems to have information that will be useful to you. |
| 17:26.43 | leafers | well i had grub and i wiped out win2k |
| 17:26.44 | vin` | lpb-oberon: info grub; look at map |
| 17:26.47 | starfishy | leafers: how did you do it? |
| 17:26.51 | jade | PerfDave, thanks |
| 17:26.53 | starfishy | then you did something wrong |
| 17:26.54 | leafers | then i installed xp |
| 17:27.00 | leafers | lost linux |
| 17:27.07 | starfishy | well, thats normal |
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| 17:27.11 | airox | yeah |
| 17:27.13 | Teolupus | sorry... i mean: i must cut an string that is between two other strings..... Can anybody help me? |
| 17:27.14 | starfishy | windows will overwrite the MBR |
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| 17:27.29 | leafers | so no i want linux back but not at the expense of win xp |
| 17:27.45 | starfishy | installing grub does not wipe out xp |
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| 17:27.56 | vhuren | if you run a mail server why do people use connections like a T1 rather than a dsl line ? can someone provide some insight? |
| 17:28.06 | lpb-oberon | leafers: use a debian netinst iso |
| 17:28.08 | Teolupus | somethink like: echo "i need some SED help" | between need SED ---> result= some |
| 17:28.10 | leafers | well if i put lilo on a linux partition |
| 17:28.11 | airox | you should have installed windows xp and afterwards linux, it would have detect other OS and added them to grub |
| 17:28.14 | leafers | not mbr |
| 17:28.15 | lpb-oberon | at boot promt |
| 17:28.23 | starfishy | i can tell you that first hand because i have used grub with both linux and windows until i ditched windows altogether |
| 17:28.34 | airox | You can chroot with the live cd however and install grub again. |
| 17:28.35 | lpb-oberon | rescue root=/dev/hdXY |
| 17:28.44 | airox | And (!!) add windows to grub then. |
| 17:28.50 | lpb-oberon | this will boot you in your debian installation |
| 17:28.53 | airox | Then you will be able to boot both of them again. |
| 17:28.58 | starfishy | update-grub will do that automagically |
| 17:29.02 | lpb-oberon | run lilo or gurb and then you are done |
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| 17:29.38 | leafers | i have two drives |
| 17:29.42 | airox | lpb-oberon is better. |
| 17:29.44 | airox | :) |
| 17:29.57 | starfishy | grub has no problem with two drives either |
| 17:30.43 | leafers | i am going to try /sbin/lilo from live cd |
| 17:30.44 | Teolupus | nobody experienced with SED here? |
| 17:30.54 | Teolupus | :/ |
| 17:30.58 | leafers | see if boot magic will work |
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| 17:31.08 | vin` | leafers: go get some leaf. |
| 17:31.14 | leafers | ok |
| 17:31.17 | leafers | thx |
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| 17:31.58 | b0oker | hi. |
| 17:32.01 | abrotman | jade: did you pay 10,000$ for your computer? |
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| 17:32.20 | jade | abrotman, for which computer? |
| 17:32.32 | abrotman | jade: you wanted to know if you had x86_64 or ia64 didn't you ? |
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| 17:32.39 | Tochy | alguien me dices el canal en español |
| 17:32.44 | jade | abrotman, no it wouldn't cost that much |
| 17:32.46 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:32.47 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:32.52 | abrotman | jade: then it's not IA64 |
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| 17:33.11 | starfishy | was thinking the same thing |
| 17:33.26 | Administrator_ | http://packages.debian.org/ <-- how can i use findpkg? |
| 17:33.41 | jade | abrotman, I was referring to a conf that had dual 64-bit Intel® Xeon® processors with Intel® EM64T |
| 17:34.06 | abrotman | jade: that was all you had to say . that is defintely NOT ia64 |
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| 17:34.38 | erchache | hi |
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| 17:34.52 | starfishy | ia64 systems are pretty rare, especially in the desktop sector |
| 17:34.53 | jade | abrotman, yes, i wouldnt want ia64 because it is too expensive, and not a common config |
| 17:34.55 | abrotman | !tell dsfsdf about search |
| 17:35.00 | erchache | if i make a dd over a disk i dont need to partitioning and formatting before no? |
| 17:35.06 | azeem | !search |
| 17:35.07 | dpkg | rumour has it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 17:35.10 | azeem | eh, argh |
| 17:35.12 | valdyn | erchache: wrong |
| 17:35.17 | starfishy | if you dd the whole device you do not need partitioning |
| 17:35.18 | Fusionfox | who is using unstable sid Debian here? |
| 17:35.25 | abrotman | many .. just ask |
| 17:35.27 | starfishy | it will write the partition tables for you |
| 17:35.35 | erchache | and if source is scsi...destination can be ide? |
| 17:35.54 | starfishy | it doesnt care as long as the target device is at least as large as the source device |
| 17:36.20 | erchache | aha...in this case...if i have 30 gb dd image....destination must be >=30 gb no? |
| 17:36.21 | airox | erchache: you will have to change things in fstab maybe |
| 17:36.25 | starfishy | dd just reads and writes blocks of data |
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| 17:36.55 | aladds | when installing debian, it it best to use ftp or http? |
| 17:36.57 | erchache | im making dd from a server and putting via ssh on other server |
| 17:37.11 | PhotoJim | I find http works better, but it's not a big difference. |
| 17:37.13 | aladds | ok |
| 17:37.15 | aladds | thanks |
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| 17:37.20 | Q-FUNK | hm |
| 17:37.28 | starfishy | that should work no problem, just make sure the other machine has a hard diskt that is the same size or bigger |
| 17:37.30 | erchache | and now im using a dummy computer to make a restoration....and fails for connection reset by peer |
| 17:37.33 | opnsrc | Ok, I added "opnsrc ALL=(ALL) ALL" to sudoers and now it lets me use sudo on the opnsrc account but it doesn't ask for a root pw or anything |
| 17:37.34 | opnsrc | how do I make it ask for a root pw before using sudo |
| 17:37.47 | Q-FUNK | is there any way to prevent pcspkr from being loaded? |
| 17:37.49 | harm1988 | who can help me set up the apache module for dav? |
| 17:38.01 | erchache | starfishy:and now im using a dummy computer to make a restoration....and fails for connection reset by pee |
| 17:38.14 | starfishy | thats not a dd issue |
| 17:38.15 | airox | opnsrc: man sudoers |
| 17:38.17 | airox | there is all the info |
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| 17:38.22 | bobbens | Q-FUNK: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 17:38.25 | PerfDave | alienbrain: FTP is more efficient bandwidth-wise, but more likely to suffer from firewall issues. |
| 17:38.27 | erchache | starfishy: a router collision problem? |
| 17:38.29 | starfishy | look at your network as the culprit |
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| 17:38.41 | Q-FUNK | erm, sorry, I meant: is there any way to prevent the 'pcspkr' kernel module form being loaded by anything? |
| 17:38.42 | xaxe | drivers for ATI Radeon 9200 |
| 17:38.43 | PerfDave | Whoops, I meant aladds, not alienbrain . But aladds quit |
| 17:39.01 | erchache | perhaps because are on same switch |
| 17:39.03 | Q-FUNK | bobbens: nope. it still loads. |
| 17:39.08 | erchache | a lantech1610f |
| 17:39.38 | erchache | and i think its bad....i have a lot of lack of speed when using it :-( |
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| 17:39.47 | bobbens | Q-FUNK: that just prevents the modprobe from loading it, if some other module is dependent or whatever it will still load it. I'm sure there's a way to stop it though, I just haven't had to figure it out yet :) |
| 17:39.52 | dsfsdf | thx..but i wanna know about "fingpkg(<-- google)" at http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 17:39.56 | opnsrc | How do I make the font in the terminal bigger? |
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| 17:40.13 | opnsrc | Gnome Evolution |
| 17:40.26 | Q-FUNK | bobbens: it seems to be loaded among the other input device modules, but lsmod doesn't shot it as being anyone else's dependency. |
| 17:40.32 | dsfsdf | that's means normal google search? |
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| 17:43.45 | bobbens | Q-FUNK: if you are using hotplug blacklist with hotplug also |
| 17:44.35 | Q-FUNK | bobbens: I blacklisted in both places. still no good. that's why I came here asking, in case I had forgotten anything. |
| 17:45.02 | bobbens | Q-FUNK: make sure its not in /etc/modules, besides that cant really think of anything else |
| 17:45.11 | Q-FUNK | bobbens: as far as I can tell, udevd insists upon loading it. |
| 17:45.13 | stew | Q-FUNK: i haven't been able to blacklist pcspkr either, i just moved the .ko from /lib/modules |
| 17:45.21 | stew | Q-FUNK: udev doesn't load kernel modules |
| 17:45.27 | abrotman | Q-FUNK: rename it |
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| 17:45.30 | PhotoJim | bbl. thanks for the help, all. |
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| 17:45.33 | Q-FUNK | bobbens: yup. /etc/modules is a zeo file here ;) |
| 17:46.30 | bobbens | Q-FUNK: follow stew's advice then :) |
| 17:46.30 | jade | anyone know of the advantages of em64t over x386 debian versions, or in general? |
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| 17:46.31 | Q-FUNK | stew: it does, actually, since it recently started conflicting and replacing hotplug. |
| 17:46.31 | abrotman | jade: it's uhm .. 64bit? |
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| 17:46.40 | bwlang | i have some very large numbers for "seek_error_rate" from smartctl -a .... eg (1e10) - anybody else seen that? The drive seems to work okay. |
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| 17:47.08 | stew | Q-FUNK: no, read /usr/share/doc/udev/FAQ |
| 17:47.14 | crypt_ex | !tell Crypt_ex about umask |
| 17:47.31 | stew | Q-FUNK: it took over the hotplug functionality except for loading kernel moodules |
| 17:48.06 | Nexus | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.12 | generallee5686 | Can someone check out my "fglrx-install.log" in the #flood channel? |
| 17:49.20 | Q-FUNK | stew: how do you explain the dozen of modules or so that get loaded right after the "Populating /dev with hotplug events" message? |
| 17:49.41 | stew | no |
| 17:49.46 | stew | err, i can't |
| 17:49.51 | jade | abrotman, ..no i mean at the debian os level? |
| 17:50.01 | sandmanV1 | having issues with samba where i didn't before. wondering if it is apt-get update related? i'm using sarge. used to, i could use samba vars like force group = +%u and now it bonks if i have the %u squashed against something. also like path = /mnt/home/%g/%upri |
| 17:50.03 | sandmanV1 | what gives? |
| 17:50.04 | jade | abrotman, performance, app building etc |
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| 17:50.27 | crypt_ex | I have fstab setup with a umask of 000 on vfat drive, I have NFS setup with (rw) but I still cannot create new files over the network? Anyone? |
| 17:50.28 | abrotman | jade: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 17:51.30 | tzafrir_laptop | crypt_ex, you're not the local root, are you? |
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| 17:51.46 | Lars_A | Hello, in mrtg i have Target[intern]: 1:public@192.168.1.14 and i snmpd.conf i have com2sec readonly 192.168.1.14 public but when i run mrtg i get the error: WARNING: skipping because at least the query for ifInOctets.1 on 192.168.1.14 did not succeed WARNING: no data for ifInOctets&ifOutOctets:public@192.168.1.14. Skipping further queries for Host 192.168.1.14 in this round. |
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| 17:53.01 | crypt_ex | tzafrir_laptop, hmmm, on to something I think.... |
| 17:53.37 | stew | Q-FUNK: crap, i take it back, looks like the latest udev added a bunch of modprobbing to /etc/udev |
| 17:54.01 | crypt_ex | tzafrir_laptop, nope....Keeps stating operation not permitted |
| 17:54.27 | Teolupus | can somebody help me with sed? I just would like to cut an string that is between to other strings... |
| 17:54.32 | Teolupus | ;- |
| 17:54.37 | Q-FUNK | stew: indeed so. and changelog says that it finally replaces all missing hotplug functionalities. however, it appeas to ignore the blacklist, for soem reason. |
| 17:54.40 | TGoC | moooooo |
| 17:54.49 | TGoC | apt-get moo /dev/debian |
| 17:55.02 | TGoC | i forgot a > there i guess |
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| 17:55.36 | Eulex | TGoC, also try apt-build moo |
| 17:55.50 | crypt_ex | tzafrir_laptop, only appears to be in nautilus....I can do it from the command line. very strange. |
| 17:55.58 | StarFire | hi all |
| 17:56.17 | Eulex | and aptitude moo, aptitude moo -v, aptitude moo -vv, aptitude moo -vvv etc |
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| 17:56.50 | TGoC | does not exist Eulex |
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| 17:57.05 | abrotman | install it |
| 17:57.06 | abrotman | jeez |
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| 17:57.29 | stew | or don't bother, its just a silly easter egg |
| 17:57.41 | zimnyx | How can i set up launcher on my gnome desktop to launch app in other than default lang? |
| 17:57.50 | npx | TRANSFORMERS; MORE THAN MEETS THE EYEEEE |
| 17:57.57 | crypt_ex | lol |
| 17:58.13 | Eulex | zimnyx, bash -c "LANG=whatever command" |
| 17:58.13 | azeem | npx: please do not write in all-caps |
| 17:58.17 | abrotman | zimnyx: export LANG="xxxx" command ? |
| 17:58.18 | TGoC | men, all the packages that come's along with it |
| 17:58.21 | Eulex | I think. |
| 17:58.27 | tzafrir_laptop | zimnyx, env LANG=whatever command |
| 17:58.32 | TGoC | what's the use of apt-build anyway? |
| 17:58.34 | abrotman | look at that .. 10 freaking answers |
| 17:58.39 | abrotman | TGoC: oddly .. to build |
| 17:58.40 | ke6isf | !apt-build |
| 17:58.41 | dpkg | i guess apt-build is an apt-get front-end for compiling software optimised for your machine, see http://freshmeat.net/projects/apt-build/?topic_id=147%2C865, or http://julien.danjou.info/article-apt-build.html |
| 17:58.51 | TGoC | rofl abrotman |
| 17:58.54 | TGoC | kinda like make? |
| 17:58.56 | tzafrir_laptop | zimnyx, or maybe just env LC_MESSAGES=whatever command |
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| 17:59.04 | houn | Hey Debian |
| 17:59.05 | Eulex | TGoC, no |
| 17:59.06 | ke6isf | TGoC: In short, it's used for building apt-source packages. |
| 17:59.10 | StarFire | What are the new packages "nvidia-glx-legacy*" in sid for? |
| 17:59.16 | npx | abrotman, i dont want anyone to miss important status updates, as we speak autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the decepticons |
| 17:59.17 | zimnyx | Eulex: tzafrir_laptop: abrotman: thanks. |
| 17:59.25 | abrotman | TGoC: install it .. read the man page |
| 17:59.26 | TGoC | oh ok ke6isf |
| 17:59.31 | TGoC | Yes sir, abrotman |
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| 17:59.43 | houn | Question: What is the collective opinion of this channel towards Ubuntu? Looking for opinions and rantings. |
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| 17:59.56 | Eulex | StarFire, they're old versions of the nvidia driver. don't use it, as even the author says that this version is broken. |
| 18:00.10 | tremor_ | hm, how do i setup dhclient3 correctly for backgrounding and safe time in boot process, when no dhcp-server is reachable (work in different networks)? .. maybe like in knoppix |
| 18:00.12 | abrotman | houn: it's off topic here |
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| 18:00.25 | dondelelcaro | houn: it's really off topic for us; try asking a specific question... |
| 18:00.26 | ke6isf | houn: Ask in #ubuntu. |
| 18:00.36 | StarFire | Eulex: The newer versions don't work on my laptop (GeForce2 Go) |
| 18:00.40 | ke6isf | !ubuntu |
| 18:00.41 | dpkg | i guess ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 18:00.41 | tzafrir_laptop | tremor_, just reduce its horribly long time out |
| 18:00.42 | houn | Fair enough. |
| 18:00.43 | jomo39292 | help, can someone help me about allowing user permission to install programs on KDE environment? |
| 18:00.49 | foo | I am getting this error with fetchmail. reading message mobilenotix@mail.notix.net:1 of 1 (604 header octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed - any ideas? |
| 18:01.02 | StarFire | I still have 7174 installed |
| 18:01.03 | TGoC | Why do i get it that when i install something by apt-get that it give's me crap like there are 4 bugs in these sources? (Could it be security.debian.org?) |
| 18:01.15 | fl00d | jomo39292: use kdesu |
| 18:01.17 | Eulex | StarFire, try an old non-legacy package from testing or stable. the current -legacy packages are broken according to the maintainer. |
| 18:01.18 | abrotman | TGoC: apt-listbugs |
| 18:01.35 | jomo39292 | kdesu? is that icon? |
| 18:01.38 | bizkit | foo: fetchmail wants to deliver fetched mails to your local mta on port 25 |
| 18:01.40 | tremor_ | tzafrir_laptop: do you have any suggestings for the timeout settings? i played around with this but didn't found some nice working constellation |
| 18:01.47 | ke6isf | TGoC: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 18:01.51 | fl00d | jomo39292: lounch it from command line |
| 18:01.52 | houn | I just installed it last night, and I'm not enitrely comfortable with it. It seems to coddle me too much. Was just curious if that's an Ubuntu specifc thing, or related to it's Debian roots. |
| 18:01.53 | foo | bizkit: ahh, I have postfix.. hmm, I thought it was running on port 25. /me checks |
| 18:01.58 | tremor_ | *suggestions |
| 18:01.59 | Eulex | StarFire, http://www.khensu.org/ |
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| 18:02.05 | tzafrir_laptop | tremor_, in a decetly-working LAN, 10 seconds should be enough |
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| 18:02.07 | TGoC | ke6isf debian sarge 3.1 |
| 18:02.21 | jomo39292 | in root? |
| 18:02.23 | tremor_ | tzafrir_laptop: thank you. i'll try it.:) |
| 18:02.25 | ke6isf | houn: Ubuntu is not Debian. Even its creator says so. |
| 18:02.26 | TGoC | libapt-pkg-perl(1 bug), binutils(1 bug), apt-build(2 bugs) |
| 18:02.32 | fl00d | jomo39292: any user |
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| 18:02.56 | TGoC | ever since i added security to my sources.list i get these things while installing anything |
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| 18:03.19 | rezzen | looking for recommendations for network browsing frontend (a smbclient). |
| 18:03.23 | bizkit | foo: be sure it binds 127.0.0.1, too.. nc localhost smtp should give you a welcome message (: |
| 18:03.33 | houn | ke6isf: It uses apt and dpkg, and does it not sync to the Sid repositories every 6 months? I suppose that could be old info. But I get the hint. I'm installing Debian tonight anyway to see the difference, hehe. |
| 18:03.34 | stew | TGoC: no, since you installed apt-listbugs, you get that |
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| 18:04.07 | jomo39292 | i get error msg when i type kdesu.. "cannot connect to X server |
| 18:04.09 | ke6isf | houn: That it does this means nothing. Use Sarge when you reinstall. |
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| 18:04.35 | rezzen | I'm looking at xfce4--but it's not obvious to me which component/package i need for network browser. anyone have experience with xfce4? |
| 18:04.49 | fl00d | jomo39292: is kde running? |
| 18:05.00 | jomo39292 | yep |
| 18:05.01 | rezzen | are there other desirable SMB front-ends for debian? |
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| 18:05.29 | crypt_ex | What can I do to a line in fstab, so that anyone can access the drive. Even over the network....I am getting fed up of this error. |
| 18:05.42 | starfishy | i always thought smb and desirable were not supposed to be in one sentence |
| 18:05.45 | fl00d | rezzen: check this out http://developer.berlios.de/projects/smb4k/ |
| 18:05.48 | StarFire | Eulex: Thanks, |
| 18:05.56 | Eulex | rezzen, xffm does samba. |
| 18:06.06 | StarFire | I have a Geforce4 420 Go card |
| 18:06.18 | Eulex | StarFire, yw |
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| 18:06.34 | cameron | hello i need help |
| 18:06.39 | vosti | jomo39292, maybe xauth restriction? try sux |
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| 18:06.54 | ke6isf | !tell cameron -about ask |
| 18:06.59 | StarFire | According to the information the new 8xxx drivers should work for me, but somehow, they don't |
| 18:07.22 | cameron | i installed red hat linux |
| 18:07.24 | rezzen | fl00d: Eulex: thanks. will look at both. |
| 18:07.25 | foo | When I grab mail with fetchmail does it go through .procmailrc in ~/ ? |
| 18:07.28 | cameron | and it doesnt let me log in |
| 18:07.47 | abrotman | cameron: ask #redhat |
| 18:07.47 | ke6isf | cameron: Well, what are you asking for help in here for? Ask in #redhat. |
| 18:07.47 | Impl0z | cameron => Debian sarge is better, for me! |
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| 18:07.47 | Impl0z | more stable |
| 18:07.52 | jomo39292 | try sux in where? root command? |
| 18:07.54 | cameron | #redhat |
| 18:08.00 | Eulex | rezzen, xffm is included in xfce4, btw. |
| 18:08.01 | abrotman | cameron: /join #redhat |
| 18:08.08 | Eulex | !redhat |
| 18:08.08 | dpkg | Red Hat used to be a Free Linux distribution, but their latest incarnation (Red Hat Enterprise) is commercial. Their Free development branch (Fedora) takes the place of what most people used to use Red Hat for. lame |
| 18:08.17 | vosti | jomo39292, you changed user with su? |
| 18:08.18 | jomo39292 | type that "sux" in command line and i got "command not found" error |
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| 18:08.31 | Eulex | !install |
| 18:08.32 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 18:08.36 | Eulex | umh |
| 18:08.59 | Eulex | !installit |
| 18:09.00 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 18:09.03 | Eulex | that's it |
| 18:09.05 | vosti | jomo39292, if you switched to root just install it.... |
| 18:09.06 | erchache | if i want to remount partitions on read only on a production server....and contains 3 differents partitions....what must be first? |
| 18:09.12 | TGoC | howto remove the files of something? -purg? |
| 18:09.34 | fl00d | TGoC: dpkg --purge |
| 18:09.39 | ke6isf | TGoC: 'apt-get --purge remove' |
| 18:09.47 | jair | anyone here has been setting up zoneedit? domain and mx records? |
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| 18:10.20 | houn | ke6isf: Sarge? I was thinking Sid. I like to be on the edge. Would you recommend against it? |
| 18:10.24 | TGoC | ok thanks |
| 18:10.32 | Eulex | houn, yes. |
| 18:10.38 | erchache | mount -a -n -oremount,ro .....remount all partitions on read only mode on the fly no? |
| 18:10.41 | ke6isf | houn: Sid is the nickname for "unstable". You do the math. |
| 18:10.56 | jomo39292 | what's the command lto install a file ? |
| 18:11.08 | houn | It's just funny, everytime I come in here, I get a different response to the "Should I Use Sid" question, lol |
| 18:11.13 | vosti | jomo39292, apt-get install .... |
| 18:11.24 | TGoC | LOL i installed apt-build to see a dancing cow... LOL |
| 18:11.33 | ke6isf | houn: The correct response to *that* ques is "If you have to ask, you shouldn't". =^_^= |
| 18:11.34 | Ronin | houn: bet the answers always a version of no, or if you do dont expect help here |
| 18:11.46 | Eulex | houn, you shouldn't run sid if you don't know how to unbreak stuff when stuff breaks. |
| 18:11.53 | tzafrir_laptop | erchache, won't this mount /proc, /sys etc. ro? |
| 18:12.03 | tzafrir_laptop | and /dev ? |
| 18:12.20 | erchache | no |
| 18:12.29 | houn | Ronin: Actually, last time it was "Wow, Sid's been running well for awhile now. The Universe must be ending" and "If you don't mind things breaking on occasion, go for it" |
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| 18:12.39 | erchache | tzafrif_laptop:i want only make a correct dd file of all parttioins_ |
| 18:12.45 | Ronin | so basically what ke6isf said then, |
| 18:12.52 | erchache | tzafrir_laptop |
| 18:12.53 | houn | Eulex: I'm coming from Gentoo. I've seen my fair share of breakage, hehe |
| 18:13.07 | jomo39292 | i ge the follow error when i type "apt-get mozilla-installer" ---> E: invalid operation mozilla-installer |
| 18:13.18 | houn | Ronin: Yeah, but the older answers are so much more optimistic! =D |
| 18:13.41 | tzafrir_laptop | erchache, not of *all* partitions. Of all real partitions. /proc/kcore is really not that interesting |
| 18:13.43 | vosti | jomo39292, i wrote apt-get install! ... maybe it'll be better for you if you read man apt-get |
| 18:13.52 | Makineros63 | jomo39292: apt-get install mozilla-installer |
| 18:13.54 | fl00d | jomo39292: try apt-get install mozilla |
| 18:14.12 | ke6isf | houn: Figure this, if your box must be up all the time barring hardware problems, and you don't like having to fix stuff, then no, don't install Sid. In fact, since you're asking, just don't. |
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| 18:14.18 | ke6isf | houn: Start with sarge, work your way up. |
| 18:14.26 | erchache | tzafrir_laptop: in this case....what should i do? |
| 18:14.40 | tzafrir_laptop | wajig is also nice, for those who find the combination of apt-get and apt-cache confusing |
| 18:14.42 | jomo39292 | thanks |
| 18:14.51 | ke6isf | jomo39292: Correct syntax is "apt-get install packagename" for installation of packages. |
| 18:15.08 | tzafrir_laptop | erchache, mount has a -t parameter |
| 18:15.13 | ke6isf | jomo39292: Rather, "apt-get install $packagename". |
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| 18:15.22 | houn | ke6isf: Fair enough. I'm talking about my home box, it's a dual-boot between Win and Nix, and honestly, I don't mind it breaking - fixing stuff == Learning Time, which is half of why I keep a Linux distro installed. Now, for my Router/Server, hells no would I put Sid on there. |
| 18:15.27 | abrotman | how about .. `man apt-get` |
| 18:15.38 | ke6isf | abrotman: Even more edumacational! =^_^= |
| 18:15.48 | erchache | ok |
| 18:15.48 | plazia | I tried to add a user in linux with the "adduser test" command. This created a system account. but when connecting in the users can go up and out of the /home/test folder I want it so they can't is there a simple way to do this? |
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| 18:16.01 | plazia | also I tried to set the shell to /bin/false but each time I then tried to log in with the ftp client it came up with error in username/password despite them being correct. |
| 18:16.14 | jomo39292 | but now, i got an error that says "W: Couldn't stat source package list file: sarge/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_cdrom_dists_sarge_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 18:16.15 | jomo39292 | " |
| 18:16.16 | plazia | basically I just want an ftp that I can upload and download from. |
| 18:16.32 | abrotman | plazia: put /bin/false in the list of valid shells for ftp |
| 18:16.34 | valdyn | plazia: 'dpkg-reconfigure adduser' |
| 18:16.44 | bbrazil | jomo39292: try an apt-get update |
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| 18:16.49 | valdyn | plazia: oh, nm |
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| 18:16.53 | ke6isf | jomo39292: It means that your sources.list is not updated yet. Have you run apt-setup yet? |
| 18:16.54 | jomo39292 | apt-get update |
| 18:16.55 | tzafrir_laptop | plazia, chrooting a shell user is a tough task. you have to provide everything for that user inside the chroot jail. |
| 18:16.55 | vosti | jomo39292, you need a cdrom |
| 18:17.12 | abrotman | use apt-setup .. get http sources |
| 18:17.22 | tzafrir_laptop | plazia, look into rssh |
| 18:17.24 | plazia | abrotman, I think I did that adding of /etc/shells. but when I tried to log in to the ftp server with the _correct_ username/password it gave errors. |
| 18:17.30 | ke6isf | abrotman: Curious, is there a reason for preference of http versus ftp? |
| 18:17.32 | bbrazil | tzafrir_laptop: they're only looking for ftp |
| 18:17.47 | valdyn | plazia: what is wrong with users doing cd /whatever ? |
| 18:17.49 | plazia | yet when I did just a regular add user without specifying a shell it created the account and now I can access the ftp server with that username/password |
| 18:17.56 | abrotman | ke6isf: try to use the psu.edu mirror on ftp :) |
| 18:18.10 | tzafrir_laptop | plazia, bbrazil , rssh can provide the sftp/scp/rsync equivalent of ftp guest users, IIRC |
| 18:18.17 | ke6isf | abrotman: Ah, OK - I don't use the psu.edu mirror though. |
| 18:18.18 | tzafrir_laptop | never tried it , though |
| 18:18.25 | abrotman | ke6isf: do it! |
| 18:18.32 | ke6isf | abrotman: NO! |
| 18:18.36 | abrotman | loser! |
| 18:18.38 | plazia | at the minute people can log onto the server but they can go up and out of the /home/test folder |
| 18:18.41 | ke6isf | Bleah! |
| 18:18.54 | abrotman | plazia: you also need to learn about chroot for your ftp server |
| 18:19.13 | scorphus | hi, I compiled and installed the 2.6.15 kernel and my console becomes all black on boot (like turned off) when I pass vga=791 as a kernel parameter. what did I miss? |
| 18:19.19 | plazia | abrotman, ok man. I guess I have some reading to do. :) |
| 18:19.21 | npx | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4616664.stm the dutch are ahead of the curve again; they're now demanding that women wear less clothing =D |
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| 18:19.30 | abrotman | mmm .. reading good |
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| 18:19.55 | valdyn | scorphus: that the base of your numeric system matters ( 16 or 10 ) ? |
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| 18:20.47 | scorphus | valdyn: I can't answer you question <o> |
| 18:20.49 | blondie | Abandonando! |
| 18:20.59 | ke6isf | blondie: Gesundheit! |
| 18:21.06 | blondie | o.o |
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| 18:22.09 | Eno_ | How can I increase the font size in apps started with wine (like the menus and stuff)? It's way too small... |
| 18:22.24 | Eno_ | Well, it's a tad too small |
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| 18:22.26 | harm1988 | basically i want my friend to LOGIN or something and then be able to upload to they're directories, How would i do this? |
| 18:22.36 | blondie | use a magnifying glass |
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| 18:22.40 | blondie | </unhelpful> |
| 18:22.42 | Eno_ | Heh |
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| 18:22.56 | ke6isf | harm1988: sftp, ftp, scp. |
| 18:22.59 | Eno_ | I can see it, it's just not as easy on the eyes as my other fonts. |
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| 18:23.07 | Eno_ | Plus it's not smooth |
| 18:23.35 | harm1988 | ke6isf.. can FTP support multiple DIRS each having their own login + password ? |
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| 18:24.17 | ke6isf | harm1988: I'm not sure what you're asking. FTP supports multiple logins, and a user can upload whatever under that login. |
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| 18:24.34 | harm1988 | AH Sweet... ok which FTP prgm is good? |
| 18:24.46 | harm1988 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.47 | Anis | Hello, i m using knoppix linux. How i can change bigger font this chat window |
| 18:24.51 | picotux | hola |
| 18:24.55 | ke6isf | anapivirtua_: Ask in #knoppix. |
| 18:24.58 | harm1988 | Anis this #debian |
| 18:25.02 | jomo39292 | i tried the apt setup and continually get this error " Failed to fetch ¦ |
| 18:25.03 | jomo39292 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.03 | jomo39292 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.03 | jomo39292 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.03 | jomo39292 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:25.07 | ke6isf | oops... |
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| 18:25.13 | ke6isf | Anis: Ask in #knoppix. |
| 18:25.19 | anapivirtua | yehh, good tab ke6isf xD |
| 18:25.20 | picotux | hi |
| 18:25.21 | StarFire | Anis: What chat program do you use anyway? |
| 18:25.22 | ke6isf | !tell jomo39292 -about flood |
| 18:25.28 | ke6isf | anapivirtua: Damn xchat completer. |
| 18:25.36 | anapivirtua | sure :/ |
| 18:25.39 | ke6isf | harm1988: I use ncftp or sftp. Or even scp. |
| 18:25.47 | harm1988 | which do u prefer? |
| 18:25.49 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:25.50 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:25.51 | Anis | X/chat 2.4.3 |
| 18:26.01 | RichiH | is there something like nice for traffic? i would prefer not to set up shaping etc, just a quick fix |
| 18:26.11 | plazia | hahaha |
| 18:26.12 | abrotman | RichiH: to do what? |
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| 18:26.22 | plazia | damnit jim...I'ma doctor not a bricklayer. |
| 18:26.36 | ke6isf | harm1988: And for bits of pedantry, your user should be uploading "their directories", not "they're directories" - the latter of which would say that they are to "upload they are directories". |
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| 18:26.45 | lunaphyte_ | how can i fix these gpg errors that occur during apt-get update? (NO_PUBKEY) |
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| 18:26.52 | abrotman | lunaphyte_: the topic ? |
| 18:27.01 | RichiH | abrotman: shape down my apt downloads |
| 18:27.02 | vosti | jomo39292, use official deb archive of your country...insert it in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:27.02 | lunaphyte_ | ok |
| 18:27.04 | Buddha| | Is it safe to delete things from /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 18:27.08 | abrotman | RichiH: trickle ? |
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| 18:27.14 | abrotman | !Info trickle sarge |
| 18:27.26 | abrotman | Buddha|: apt-get clean |
| 18:27.37 | RichiH | abrotman: will have a look, thanks |
| 18:27.40 | Daedalus_ | Is doing a dist upgrade (from stable to testing) as simple as changing sources.list and doing an apt-get update/distupgrade? |
| 18:27.43 | harm1988 | my english is the good! |
| 18:27.52 | abrotman | !tell Daedalus_ about sarge->etch |
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| 18:28.05 | abrotman | Daedalus_: be aware .. some stuff is missing in etch currently .. especially in the KDE area |
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| 18:28.34 | Thorrn4 | hey, does anyone here have a favorite program to RIP CDs? |
| 18:28.43 | abrotman | Thorrn4: there are dozens |
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| 18:28.51 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 18:28.52 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 18:29.01 | dpkg | trickle: has nothing about Info |
| 18:29.06 | abrotman | !info trickle sarge |
| 18:29.12 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 18:29.16 | abrotman | RichiH: ^^ |
| 18:29.18 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:29.33 | Thorrn4 | ke6isf, that is a REAL question |
| 18:29.38 | Thorrn4 | is an opinion |
| 18:29.43 | Buddha| | abrotman - O_O wow! That freed up a LOT of space. Thanks! |
| 18:29.46 | Thorrn4 | abrotman, what do u use? |
| 18:29.51 | tzafrir_laptop | Thorrn4, cdrecord |
| 18:29.53 | abrotman | Thorrn4: it's YOU |
| 18:30.01 | abrotman | cdrecord can rip ? |
| 18:30.08 | ke6isf | Thorrn4: Well, that clarifies it, and I don't know what u uses, because I don't keep up with u. |
| 18:30.10 | tzafrir_laptop | nah... |
| 18:30.18 | ke6isf | !tell Thorrn4 -about u |
| 18:30.22 | abrotman | Thorrn4: i've been experimenting with jack lately .. |
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| 18:30.37 | ke6isf | Thorrn4: That said, k3b. And /msg dpkg polls. |
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| 18:30.46 | Daveman | oh noes, it's the abrotman! |
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| 18:31.46 | harm1988 | what is an FTP program with a GUI? |
| 18:31.57 | ke6isf | harm1988: gftp comes to mind. |
| 18:32.04 | pureone | links -driver x |
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| 18:32.46 | ke6isf | harm1988: I don't use it, but from what I have seen it bears semblance to CuteFTP. |
| 18:32.59 | aTypical | Hello. In Fedora to get my sound working I needed to add a line to /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Is there an equivalent file in Debian? |
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| 18:33.12 | harm1988 | ARGH >] i need a FTP program which is easy to use.. so probally one with a gui |
| 18:33.13 | abrotman | !tell aTypical about blacklist |
| 18:33.26 | ke6isf | harm1988: OK, like I said, gftp. |
| 18:33.37 | beefcake | harm: pftp |
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| 18:33.51 | aTypical | Thankyou, abrotman |
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| 18:35.37 | smiler1987 | hi i just installed debian and for some reason i cant get my screen upto 1024x768 its resalooution will only go up to 800x600 is it hidden somewhere? |
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| 18:35.53 | Teolupus | I'm almost there: |
| 18:35.54 | Teolupus | echo arg1 string arg2 arg2 arg2 arg2 | sed 's/.*arg1\(.*\)arg2.*/\1/' |
| 18:36.04 | Teolupus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.23 | Thorrn4 | ke6isf, how can I change the Bitrate that the CD will be ripped into? |
| 18:36.37 | Teolupus | how can I change this regular expression so I got only the first ocurrence of arg2 (right after arg1)?? |
| 18:36.44 | abrotman | afaik .. wav doesn't have a bitrate |
| 18:36.45 | jomo39292 | i have debian iso file on my other desktop which is connect to network |
| 18:36.53 | Gnea | abrotman: it does |
| 18:36.53 | fl00d | smiler1987: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:36.58 | abrotman | Gnea: dork! |
| 18:37.02 | Gnea | abrotman: so?! |
| 18:37.07 | StarFire | anyone that uses cvsnt instead of cvs here? |
| 18:37.13 | abrotman | StarFire: #cvs ? |
| 18:37.30 | abrotman | since cvsnt isn't related to debian .. at all :) |
| 18:37.33 | ye_old | good evening everyone! :) I'm new to debian, but used many distros till now, and debian is working great up to now. I'm having now a question concerning xinerama (usingg two screens): When I plug in the monitor-cable, it shows the same content as on the main screen, just a bit "squeezed" it misses some 200pixel from the left but it's nowhere like: the screen on the right side displays the right half of a (2*1024)x768 :) |
| 18:37.42 | jomo39292 | is there way i can uncompress it the other windows desktop and let my linux tried to retrieve the file? it seem like my cdrom on the linux is down |
| 18:37.44 | ke6isf | Thorrn4: I don't know, since I don't do much with audio CDs. |
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| 18:38.00 | ye_old | is this the right question to ask such a thing? I assume it's more of a xorg.conf thing, but asked anyway |
| 18:38.07 | ye_old | sorry, the right channel, i mean |
| 18:38.41 | StarFire | abrotman: It's a Debian package in sid ;-) |
| 18:39.18 | abrotman | i thought cvsnt was the pserver on win32 |
| 18:39.20 | NOthsouth | how can I delete all .java from a .jar? |
| 18:39.29 | ye_old | libxinerama1 is installed |
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| 18:40.24 | smiler1987 | fl00d: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg returns command not found |
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| 18:40.51 | thingfish | ye_old: I know nothing about xinerama, but you might find /msg dpkg xinerama helpful. |
| 18:40.54 | vin` | smiler1987: what about xserver-xfree86? |
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| 18:41.31 | ye_old | thingfish, thanks |
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| 18:41.35 | thingfish | np |
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| 18:42.11 | mofino | Is their a pre-existing method to creating a custom installer kernel? |
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| 18:42.30 | dj-death | hi all |
| 18:42.36 | ke6isf | !all |
| 18:42.37 | dpkg | All: no such nick/channel. Just ask your question, please - ask me about <ask>. a brand of laundry detergent in the United States, and it's not expected that this will answer, either. |
| 18:42.42 | smiler1987 | vin: thanks |
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| 18:42.58 | azeem | dj-death: hi |
| 18:42.59 | dj-death | I'm looking a way to convert my /etc/raidtab into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
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| 18:43.05 | mofino | dj-death, why? |
| 18:43.08 | dj-death | is it possible ? |
| 18:43.09 | mofino | dj-death, it's used ONCE |
| 18:43.11 | fgxcc | Stew are you there ? |
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| 18:43.18 | ye_old | thingfish: hm, I already have it installed and it seems to work, just not as wanted, well I'll google around :) |
| 18:43.31 | thingfish | ye_old: good luck. |
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| 18:44.13 | stew | fgxcc: ? |
| 18:44.16 | iLinux | Stew can you give me the link about that net install isso with ite8212 (ideraid) im goind to install on a sata hd =) |
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| 18:44.36 | stew | iLinux: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
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| 18:44.48 | iLinux | ah thks |
| 18:45.29 | iLinux | he is not responding :S |
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| 18:45.40 | mofino | Answer to my question: http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/index.html#contents |
| 18:45.42 | iLinux | dpkg buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 18:45.46 | iLinux | lol |
| 18:45.55 | ke6isf | !what are you |
| 18:46.02 | smiler1987 | i'm in the gui kde is there a way to do that same as dpkg-reconfigure xserver |
| 18:46.03 | ke6isf | argh, tyhat doesn't exist. |
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| 18:46.08 | ke6isf | iLinux: dpkg is a bot. |
| 18:46.15 | iLinux | i know |
| 18:46.23 | stew | iLinux: http://dpkg.vireo.org/sarge+2.6.14 |
| 18:46.33 | MordEth | hey. i was wondering if anyone could help me with getting sshd to work properly. |
| 18:46.49 | ke6isf | MordEth: It should Just Work. What seems to be the problem? |
| 18:47.06 | MordEth | see, that's what i thought. sshd is running, but i cannot connect to it. |
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| 18:47.22 | ke6isf | MordEth: 'nmap localhost' on the console? |
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| 18:47.32 | ye_old | thingfish: dpkg bot does not answer using kopete here, is this settable? |
| 18:47.34 | jones | what is the package the has dig and whois? |
| 18:47.44 | iLinux | nice |
| 18:47.55 | ke6isf | jones: bind-utils and whois, IIRC. |
| 18:48.03 | iLinux | cia next time in debian ;) |
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| 18:48.19 | ke6isf | ilinux is sending the CIA in here?! ===:O |
| 18:48.22 | fl00d | jones: apt-cache search whois |
| 18:48.24 | thingfish | ye_old: dpkg seems to be "out" at the moment. |
| 18:48.37 | azeem | !hi |
| 18:48.41 | ke6isf | !test |
| 18:48.46 | ke6isf | bubye dpkg |
| 18:48.56 | azeem | dondelelcaro: dpkg seems down |
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| 18:48.58 | jones | ke6isf no such package bind-utls |
| 18:49.12 | ke6isf | jones: No, 'bind-utils'. Note the i in 'utils'. |
| 18:49.21 | ye_old | thingfish: ah ok :) |
| 18:49.22 | jones | fl00d ok then what is dig |
| 18:49.28 | tzafrir_laptop | nmap localhost is quite useless, as you should see a pretty different picture from any other host |
| 18:49.30 | jones | ke6isf i did on the command line ;) |
| 18:49.42 | jones | E: Couldn't find package bind-utils |
| 18:49.44 | ke6isf | jones: you did not enter the name of the package correctly. |
| 18:49.47 | tzafrir_laptop | netstat -lntup will give you more useful information |
| 18:49.57 | ke6isf | jones: OK, could be my mistake. Hang on. |
| 18:50.01 | tzafrir_laptop | and much faster |
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| 18:50.52 | airox | dnsutils ? |
| 18:50.55 | fl00d | jones: try apt-get install dnsutils |
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| 18:51.09 | jones | doesnt seem to contain dig though.. |
| 18:51.21 | jones | maybe it does |
| 18:51.23 | jones | nvm |
| 18:51.28 | ke6isf | jones: Try dnsutils instead. |
| 18:51.35 | airox | dnsutils: /usr/bin/dig |
| 18:51.36 | jones | just didnt have whois |
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| 18:51.39 | charolastra | hi everyone |
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| 18:53.13 | ke6isf | jones: what airox said. It's in dnsutils. Whois is just 'whois'. |
| 18:53.21 | MordEth | ke6isf: bash: nmap: command not found. |
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| 18:53.29 | ke6isf | MordEth: So install nmap. |
| 18:53.39 | ke6isf | !installit |
| 18:53.47 | ke6isf | oh, that's right, dpkg is out cold. |
| 18:54.13 | airox | Try nmap'ing the external interface btw, nmap'ing localhost is not very handy. |
| 18:54.21 | airox | nmap 192.168.0.1 for example |
| 18:54.23 | charolastra | to me it seems like my kda smaba io-slave is broken in sid; can someone confirm this? |
| 18:54.24 | airox | or whatever |
| 18:54.27 | multi_io | my Xorg is broken |
| 18:54.32 | charolastra | nmap localhost |
| 18:54.33 | MordEth | hrm. okay. i can't say that i've used it before. my OS X box and my RH box apparently do not have nmap. |
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| 18:56.09 | ke6isf | airox: It's useful to test firewall issues, if anything. |
| 18:56.18 | multi_io | when running xterm, it says 'color name "black" is not defined' and starts with only blue text visible. And with a non-redrawing background. |
| 18:56.28 | smiler1987 | how to i boot into the text bit rather than the gui? |
| 18:56.34 | ke6isf | MordEth: Curious, though, what error are you getting when you attempt to log in remotely? |
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| 18:56.48 | MordEth | yeah, i'd played with 'iptables -L', and there isn't anything blocking it. |
| 18:56.49 | multi_io | when running xemacs, it starts with totally weird colors and spits otu thousands of error messages on the console |
| 18:57.00 | multi_io | christ, what a mess :\ |
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| 18:57.07 | MordEth | ke6isf: connection times out, doesn't appear to hit the box. |
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| 18:57.14 | fl00d | smiler1987: add this in /etc/inittab: id:2:initdefault: |
| 18:57.21 | ke6isf | MordEth: Where are you testing it from? |
| 18:57.31 | smiler1987 | fl00d i dont want to do this permintly |
| 18:57.32 | MordEth | ke6isf: nmap shows ssh open on port 22, just like it should. |
| 18:57.37 | smiler1987 | just for one boot |
| 18:57.42 | MordEth | ke6isf: two different machines on the same local network. |
| 18:57.51 | ke6isf | MordEth: Weird. What's between them? |
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| 18:57.55 | wouterrr | hello |
| 18:58.09 | wouterrr | in the debian/rules file i set the operations like adding users and such? |
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| 18:58.29 | multi_io | and it happens with the latest unstable as well as the latest testing packages (I've tested both), and with the nvidia as well as the nv driver |
| 18:58.36 | wouterrr | never mind |
| 18:58.47 | ongeboren | is gmailfs broken ? it keeps telling me : mount: unknown filesystem type 'gmailfs' |
| 18:59.45 | airox | MordEth: The policies of iptables are on ACCEPT ? |
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| 19:00.14 | airox | ke6isf: Could have been that sshd was running on localhost interface and not on external interface. |
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| 19:00.27 | ke6isf | airox: Indeed, but out of the box, that shouldn't be how sshd is configured. |
| 19:00.42 | airox | Nope, you're correct about that. |
| 19:00.42 | MordEth | ke6isf: i tried it with both the blank iptables that it started with, and also with allow rules, yes. |
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| 19:00.54 | ke6isf | MordEth: What is between the two boxes? |
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| 19:01.36 | MordEth | ke6isf: D-Link DI-604 router. |
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| 19:01.47 | xerophyte | KDevelop vs eclipse ?? which is good |
| 19:01.48 | MordEth | i can connect out from the Debian machine just fine... |
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| 19:02.16 | ke6isf | MordEth: Then it could be a rule on your router, perhaps? |
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| 19:02.37 | ke6isf | MordEth: Try nmap from the other box and see what that does. I suspect a firewall problem at the router level. |
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| 19:03.06 | Teolupus | C ya |
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| 19:06.20 | blondie | (why are you trying to get its size then) |
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| 19:08.26 | harm1988 | how do u delete something in aptitude? |
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| 19:08.55 | vin` | delete? uninstall? purge? |
| 19:09.03 | Siv0x | I need help resizing a partition.. as i just deleted my windows partition |
| 19:09.03 | mfrisch | I got a quick grub question. If you are rebuilding from backup and have to update grub what is the command I run? |
| 19:09.13 | harm1988 | delete like make it disapear from my HD |
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| 19:09.57 | vin` | mfrisch: grub-install to install update-grub to update the config |
| 19:10.10 | PCline | whats the latest debian kernel ? |
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| 19:10.17 | mfrisch | Vin' THANKS.. |
| 19:10.22 | ke6isf | harm1988: You delete files. From aptitude, you manage packages. Do you mean "how do I remove a package from within aptitude"? |
| 19:10.31 | stew | PCline: latest for what? there are many |
| 19:10.38 | harm1988 | yes i do ke6 |
| 19:10.49 | vin` | harm1988: - to remove, _ to purge |
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| 19:10.55 | Solid | im trying to install debain on my new server whic got every thing Builtin But I get Error During Booting From Cd |
| 19:10.55 | PCline | stew sarge |
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| 19:10.58 | Solid | Like Kernal panic: no init found, Try passing init= option to kernel |
| 19:11.04 | Solid | im using Debain Sarge |
| 19:11.16 | Solid | and Kernal panic: no init found, Try passing init= option to kernel |
| 19:11.18 | lightdifference | hey guys, which version of debian do I download, 3.1_r0a or 3.1_r1? |
| 19:11.27 | pipeline | Solid: Sounds like you burned a bad CD. |
| 19:11.27 | PerfDave | !debain |
| 19:11.31 | PCline | stew linux-2.4.32.tar.gz ? |
| 19:11.37 | PerfDave | lightdifference: 3.1r1 :) |
| 19:11.40 | stew | PCline: 2.6.8-2 and 2.4.27-2 |
| 19:11.44 | Solid | kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 19:11.45 | lightdifference | PerfDave: thanks. |
| 19:11.50 | harm1988 | k |
| 19:11.56 | PCline | stew hmm whats the diff between them ? |
| 19:11.59 | ke6isf | harm1988: What vin` said. |
| 19:12.00 | pipeline | Solid: Listen: You burned a bad CD. The CD is damaged. Burn a new one. |
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| 19:12.08 | pipeline | PCline: If you don't know, go with 2.6. |
| 19:12.13 | Solid | no ive already installed debain on my old server with same CD and its running without erros |
| 19:12.15 | PCline | stew how come i have 2.6.15-1-686 ? |
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| 19:12.29 | stew | PCline: because you downloaded the unstable kernel |
| 19:12.31 | PerfDave | Solid: What is this "debain" you keep talking about? |
| 19:12.40 | PCline | pipeline could you not tell me whats the diff between them ? |
| 19:12.44 | Siv0x | I need help resizing a partition.. as i just deleted my windows partition |
| 19:12.47 | pipeline | PCline: No. |
| 19:12.52 | PCline | pipeline cheers |
| 19:12.53 | Solid | debain Sarge 2.4 Kernel |
| 19:13.10 | Solid | latest Stable One |
| 19:13.15 | pipeline | Solid: Join #debain |
| 19:13.17 | vin` | Solid: you sure it's debain? |
| 19:13.24 | Gnea | !debain |
| 19:13.25 | PerfDave | Solid: Sorry, this channel is for support with Debian GNU/Linux, you want #debain perhps ;) |
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| 19:13.43 | Gnea | hmm empty |
| 19:13.49 | Solid | Ahh Sorry I mean Debian Sarge 2.4 Kernel |
| 19:13.52 | ke6isf | Gnea: I think dpkg is out cold. |
| 19:13.56 | Solid | Latest One |
| 19:13.58 | stew | PCline: 2.6 has better support for newer hardware, but may be less stable than 2.4 in some situations |
| 19:14.01 | PerfDave | Solid: I think you mean "Debian 3.1 with 2.4 kernel" ;) |
| 19:14.05 | Gnea | !beer ke6isf |
| 19:14.06 | Solid | Yes |
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| 19:14.07 | PCline | stew what about linux-2.4.32.tar.gz ? |
| 19:14.13 | Gnea | ke6isf: heh |
| 19:14.20 | stew | PCline: that is an upstream kernel from kernel.org, not a debian kernel |
| 19:14.29 | PCline | stew ohh i see |
| 19:14.36 | Solid | every time i start i get a diffrent error during CD Boot |
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| 19:14.41 | stew | PCline: you could compile it yourself, /msg dpkg kp |
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| 19:14.49 | PerfDave | Solid: So you've got a Debian 3.1 install CD, you boot the CD, and you get an error? Sounds like a duff CD to me, or a duff CD drive. |
| 19:14.54 | ke6isf | Solid: How old is this disk? Is it scratched? Perhaps there's debris in the drive? |
| 19:14.55 | Gnea | Solid: oh? |
| 19:15.00 | stew | PCline: (although i don't recommend compiling your own kernel unless it is necessary) |
| 19:15.06 | jeff01 | when dual booting debian and windows, which is better to have installed first? never tackled this one before |
| 19:15.08 | Solid | No I Just Burn Them |
| 19:15.13 | Solid | They Are New |
| 19:15.13 | Solid | interrupt handler - not syncing |
| 19:15.16 | PerfDave | jeff01: Install windows first. |
| 19:15.19 | starfishy | Dave: not necessarily |
| 19:15.19 | vin` | jeff01: winbloze first |
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| 19:15.21 | ke6isf | Solid: That you get a different error every time tells me that it's debris in the drive. |
| 19:15.26 | pipeline | vin`: winbloze? |
| 19:15.30 | Solid | some times i get this error oo |
| 19:15.31 | jeff01 | PerfDave: thanks |
| 19:15.32 | Solid | heh |
| 19:15.39 | ke6isf | Solid: And don't punctuate your lines with an enter. Keep it contiguous, please. |
| 19:15.44 | Solid | ok |
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| 19:15.50 | Gnea | Solid: did you just press enter to boot? |
| 19:15.52 | Daveman | harm1988 :) |
| 19:15.53 | Solid | yes |
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| 19:16.00 | starfishy | i had one [CENSORED] of a time to get around the installer hanging while partitioning the disks on my 3ware controller |
| 19:16.04 | pipeline | vin`: http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m2nu.png |
| 19:16.08 | Solid | i just simply press enter |
| 19:16.17 | Gnea | Solid: try booting like this: boot: linux26<enter> |
| 19:16.27 | Solid | ok ill try |
| 19:17.12 | jeff01 | last question, kinda related; does mythtv support any of the ati cards yet? |
| 19:17.14 | vin` | pipeline: still no winbloze |
| 19:17.49 | S4nD3r_ | I've got this error: Could not start process pop3s. How solve it ? |
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| 19:18.08 | Siv0x | can anyone help me resize a partition.. as i just deleted my windows partition |
| 19:18.11 | S4nD3r | I dont know the solution of it |
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| 19:18.42 | Denilson | installed |
| 19:18.43 | stew | jeff01: #mythtv-users |
| 19:18.57 | Solid | nope i get same error kernel panic: no init found. Try passing bla blabla |
| 19:19.09 | Gnea | ~beer |
| 19:19.11 | apt | [beer] not just for breakfast anymore |
| 19:19.39 | pipeline | Siv0x: Heh, that should be pretty easy. |
| 19:19.46 | Denilson | hi, new i ubuntu and linux, just testing chat program |
| 19:19.47 | pipeline | Siv0x: You didn't format the newly empty space, did you? |
| 19:19.53 | Siv0x | no |
| 19:19.55 | pipeline | Denilson: Go to #ubuntu. This is #debian. We don't do ubuntu. |
| 19:20.03 | Siv0x | i just need to merge it to my linux partition |
| 19:20.08 | Denilson | sorry |
| 19:20.14 | Gnea | ~ubuntu |
| 19:20.17 | apt | rumour has it, ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 19:20.19 | pipeline | Siv0x: Oh, I thought you wanted to get your windows partition back. |
| 19:20.25 | pipeline | Siv0x: Growing ext3 isn't entirely safe. |
| 19:20.42 | S4nD3r | ?? |
| 19:20.44 | Gnea | wtf |
| 19:20.46 | Siv0x | well, i still wanna try |
| 19:20.55 | Solid | i just typed in boot : linux26 |
| 19:20.56 | S4nD3r | I've got this error: Could not start process pop3s. How solve it ? |
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| 19:21.28 | pipeline | Siv0x: Well, use a partition editor to extend the partition, then save changes and reboot. Then boot a rescue disc and attempt to grow your ext3 partition. |
| 19:21.41 | PCline | S4nD3r what does the logs say? |
| 19:21.53 | lunaphyte_ | dpkg says to ask it about <2006 key>, but doesn't respond. |
| 19:21.56 | pipeline | Siv0x: Err, rather, to be clearer: first you edit the partition table, THEN you grow the filesystem. |
| 19:22.08 | Siv0x | well |
| 19:22.11 | lunaphyte_ | is there a key that replaces 4F368D5D? |
| 19:22.14 | Siv0x | i need a partition editor |
| 19:22.47 | Gnea | fdisk |
| 19:22.51 | S4nD3r | which is the log from this process? |
| 19:22.51 | pipeline | Siv0x: Debian has cfdisk installed by default. |
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| 19:23.04 | Siv0x | how can i resize with cfdisk? |
| 19:23.06 | pipeline | Siv0x: Warning: it is, in theory, possible to grow a mounted ext3 filesystem, but it's a very, very bad idea. |
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| 19:23.18 | pipeline | Siv0x: Delete the partition and create a new, larger one. As long as it starts in the same place, you will be fine. |
| 19:23.31 | Gnea | pipeline: eh |
| 19:23.48 | Gnea | Siv0x: what's it formatted with? |
| 19:23.59 | pipeline | Siv0x: You will need the "ext2resize" utility on your rescue disc to grow the fs, by the way. |
| 19:24.13 | Siv0x | a |
| 19:24.15 | Siv0x | ah * |
| 19:24.43 | Solid | so anyone wana help me? |
| 19:24.46 | Gnea | df -Th <-- that will show you, under Type |
| 19:24.56 | Gnea | Solid: already did |
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| 19:25.07 | Solid | ive installed same cd on old server but on new server it now working |
| 19:25.10 | Siv0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.11 | Siv0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.11 | Siv0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.11 | Siv0x | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.14 | blondie | SPAM |
| 19:25.16 | vin` | lunaphyte_: 2D230C5F |
| 19:25.19 | Solid | hey ive tried what you said but not working |
| 19:25.21 | Gnea | hey now, i didn't say paste it |
| 19:25.25 | Siv0x | can i still boot with my partition like that? |
| 19:25.26 | Gnea | ~paste |
| 19:25.28 | apt | i heard paste is see http://paste.husk.org |
| 19:25.29 | Siv0x | ;\ |
| 19:25.38 | MordEth | hrm. |
| 19:25.44 | lunaphyte_ | vin`: thanks. |
| 19:25.53 | Gnea | Solid: yeah but you didn't elaborate and get into any detail |
| 19:26.04 | Gnea | no detail, no help |
| 19:26.12 | ke6isf | Siv0x: Don't flood the channel please. |
| 19:26.24 | Solid | as i said it still send me the same error |
| 19:26.25 | Siv0x | heh, sorry |
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| 19:26.48 | lunaphyte_ | i've installed both of these gpg keys mentioned - why do i still get NO_PUBKEY errors at the end of apt-get update? |
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| 19:27.30 | vin` | lunaphyte_: try http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
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| 19:27.40 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 19:27.42 | lunaphyte_ | ok |
| 19:27.43 | MordEth | ke6isf: nmap thinks that 22 is open on Debian box from my OS X machine. |
| 19:27.48 | MordEth | still can't connect, though. |
| 19:28.06 | Solid | one more thin same error whenever i try to intall any linux distro |
| 19:28.10 | ke6isf | MordEth: So it sees it as open, but it times out. Weird. WHat version of Debian? |
| 19:28.31 | df5ea | MordEth: have you tried ssh -v |
| 19:28.34 | MordEth | the latest. i used the net-installer mid last week. |
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| 19:28.47 | charolastra | anyone know what package does contain the KDE IO slaves? |
| 19:29.15 | fl00d | charolastra: which io slaves? |
| 19:29.20 | charolastra | samba |
| 19:30.33 | fl00d | charolastra: try kdebase-kio-plugins |
| 19:30.42 | MordEth | ke6isf: got it. i'm not sure why it wasn't connecting before, but it did, finally. |
| 19:30.55 | Gnea | Solid: what exactly is the error? |
| 19:31.01 | ke6isf | MordEth: Cool =^^= |
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| 19:31.24 | corvette | I upgraded some packages from backports and then some of the packages didn't seem to upgrade properly |
| 19:31.27 | charolastra | fl00d: "kdebase-kio-plugins is already the newest version." |
| 19:31.37 | Solid | Kernal panic: no init found, Try passing init= option to kernel |
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| 19:32.06 | charolastra | Solid: check if you try to "boot" from the right root partition |
| 19:32.12 | corvette | So when I restarted my computer I get a blue screen error with a yes or no. I can't input anything so I restart in failsafe. If I type startx I get a mouse error, if I type init 2 I get the bluescreen error again. What's the command to configure the mouse |
| 19:32.15 | Solid | a liitle bit diffrent error on other distro Kernal panic: no init found, Try passing init= option to kernel |
| 19:32.17 | Gnea | Solid: you say this happens everytime, all the time, with any cd on that particular system? |
| 19:32.36 | fl00d | charolastra; do you have samba and smbclient installed? |
| 19:32.44 | starfishy | bluescreen error? |
| 19:32.50 | Solid | i mean on other distro i get unable to mount root fs on 09:02 |
| 19:32.50 | vin` | bsod |
| 19:32.50 | starfishy | are you sure you are running debian? |
| 19:32.51 | charolastra | fl00d: sure, even running smbd on same computer |
| 19:33.07 | corvette | Well the screen is blue and it says something about selecting yes to view a log except for when I try to input anything it doesn't work |
| 19:33.11 | ke6isf | starfishy: well, can't be Windows. That just blue screens and dies. |
| 19:33.12 | corvette | yes, it's debian |
| 19:33.15 | Gnea | Solid: so wait, you're trying to rescue an already installed system and not install a new one? |
| 19:33.21 | Solid | yes every time i boot when i see debain isnatllation screen i press enter i get tagt error |
| 19:33.26 | charolastra | it seems to be a problem with KDE but noone answers my "does kde smb io-slave depend on smb support in the kernel?" |
| 19:33.27 | starfishy | yeah |
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| 19:33.29 | corvette | The thing is when I upgraded the packages from backports it says that there was no public key (but I'm sure it was from backports) |
| 19:33.30 | Solid | no a new one |
| 19:33.32 | lunaphyte_ | vin`: thanks. that set me straight |
| 19:33.37 | starfishy | i still have to see a bluescreen in debian |
| 19:33.42 | Solid | fresh new debian system |
| 19:33.45 | starfishy | (other than my screenblanker of course ;) |
| 19:33.49 | Gnea | Solid: if it's a new one, why would it complain about something that it already has? |
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| 19:34.03 | fl00d | charolastra: try to install smbfs |
| 19:34.11 | corvette | It was just from starting up, it never got to the GUI. It tries and the screen blinks then I get a blue (setup like) screen with a yes or now |
| 19:34.12 | corvette | no |
| 19:34.27 | Solid | its already had winxp installed on it |
| 19:34.28 | charolastra | smbfs is already the newest version. |
| 19:34.28 | corvette | It's not like the windows blue screens, it's like one of those ones that you get when installing drivers, etc... |
| 19:34.30 | vin` | corvette: check out your X logs for EE |
| 19:34.45 | corvette | uhm.... not sure where those are |
| 19:34.57 | Gnea | Solid: but that's got nothing to do with it, it could have freebsd installed on it |
| 19:34.57 | vin` | corvette: xorg or xfree86? |
| 19:34.58 | Solid | the hard disk is a small 10 gb one like in labtops |
| 19:34.58 | charolastra | i think he is talking about depconf |
| 19:35.05 | corvette | also, there was a command to configure the mouse (and the graphics card, etc...) from a console. what's that command? |
| 19:35.07 | Solid | no no freebsd |
| 19:35.08 | starfishy | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 19:35.10 | Gnea | 10gb is not small |
| 19:35.15 | corvette | I believe it's xorg |
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| 19:35.17 | vin` | !drxx corvette |
| 19:35.23 | corvette | Which one is under the GNU - GPL? |
| 19:35.27 | vin` | ~drxx corvette |
| 19:35.35 | Solid | no i mean the size of the hdd is small |
| 19:35.36 | EvilSporkMan | !brick vin` |
| 19:35.48 | Solid | physical size |
| 19:35.50 | vin` | corvette: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:35.55 | corvette | thanks |
| 19:35.59 | Gnea | Solid: so this is on a laptop? |
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| 19:36.05 | bucky | !test |
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| 19:36.06 | corvette | well that's not the command but I'll try it |
| 19:36.09 | Solid | no its a server |
| 19:36.14 | ke6isf | EvilSporkMan, bucky: dpkg is out cold. |
| 19:36.20 | corvette | I have enough HD |
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| 19:36.23 | EvilSporkMan | poor dpkg |
| 19:36.25 | Gnea | so you took a laptop hd and plugged it into a server? |
| 19:36.27 | Solid | ive got VIA mother Board With Evert Thing Builtin |
| 19:36.31 | EvilSporkMan | does !brick work in normal circumstances? |
| 19:36.32 | Solid | yes |
| 19:36.36 | bucky | ke6isf: did he get drunk again/ |
| 19:36.40 | Solid | winxp is working on it |
| 19:36.41 | Gnea | why? |
| 19:36.45 | ke6isf | bucky: Probably. =^^= |
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| 19:37.01 | corvette | which one is under the gnu-gpl, the free86 or the xorg? |
| 19:37.02 | Solid | cuz i dont have one ;) |
| 19:37.06 | Gnea | Solid: you should see the hd show up in the bootup messages then |
| 19:37.08 | Gnea | lol |
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| 19:37.21 | ke6isf | corvette: I could be wrong, but I thought they both were. |
| 19:37.26 | npx | mmm |
| 19:37.28 | Solid | how do i see it during boot? |
| 19:37.28 | npx | C6 Z06 |
| 19:37.38 | Gnea | it's in the bootup messages on the screen |
| 19:37.40 | djp | how do i add a resolution to my desktop preferences? |
| 19:37.43 | corvette | Well they were but in more recent years I believe one of them had licensing problems so in like 2004 or so they made the other under the GPL |
| 19:37.54 | Gnea | it may have scrolled past when it got to the error |
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| 19:38.02 | Solid | ok |
| 19:38.05 | Solid | wait |
| 19:38.07 | charolastra | fl00d: above i wrote that also smbfs is installed |
| 19:38.11 | Gnea | but it may still be there |
| 19:38.15 | npx | corvette do you own a vette? |
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| 19:38.20 | corvette | no :( |
| 19:38.30 | npx | me neither =( I have a 95 caprice interceptor |
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| 19:38.36 | EvilSporkMan | corvette: xorg was forked from xfree86 because the xfree86 project went under some kind of undesirable license |
| 19:38.42 | fl00d | charolastra: make sure you have smbclient too |
| 19:38.49 | charolastra | k |
| 19:38.54 | syl-2 | hi there, i've read plenty of docs concerning "mount" but couldn't find why non-root users only get a read-only access to the 2nd hard drive i mounted as root |
| 19:39.03 | corvette | yep |
| 19:39.06 | charolastra | fl00d: damn, got that too :( |
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| 19:39.14 | corvette | then I have xorg (I hope) |
| 19:39.21 | syl-2 | even with the "rw" mode activated, it's still the same |
| 19:39.24 | vin` | corvette: but the version available in debian is prior to the license change. |
| 19:39.25 | ke6isf | corvette: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:39.32 | Gnea | syl-2: did you read any docs concerning the /etc/fstab file? |
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| 19:40.02 | Gnea | syl-2: who owns it? |
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| 19:40.15 | jeff01 | Brox: welcome to the party |
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| 19:40.22 | syl-2 | Gnea: the hard drive itself ? |
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| 19:40.34 | Brox | if you have a statement like include /etc/samba/smb.conf%m in smb.conf the %m gets substitued with a netbios client connecting to the server - so you can tweak the smb.conf for every user in the lan - right? |
| 19:40.34 | Gnea | syl-2: lol, no, the mounted partition |
| 19:40.39 | Gnea | syl-2: or the mount point |
| 19:40.40 | Brox | can someone confirm this? |
| 19:40.53 | Brox | jeff01: ^^ |
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| 19:41.15 | Brox | its for an upcoming project that im just preparing a bitt for |
| 19:41.16 | fl00d | charolastra: i have no idea |
| 19:41.28 | EvilSporkMan | Brox: i bet samba.org can |
| 19:41.38 | corvette | yep, that's the command (I thought it was different). Thanks |
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| 19:41.46 | charolastra | fl00d: :( thanks for your time |
| 19:41.59 | Pollywog | where do I get "findpkg"? |
| 19:42.04 | syl-2 | Gnea: i created the mount point as an ordinary user, double-checked that the user has read-write access to that directory, but then i mounted the drive and the owner was apparently changed to "root" |
| 19:42.05 | fl00d | charolastra: no problem |
| 19:42.08 | EvilSporkMan | Pollywog: google it! |
| 19:42.13 | Pollywog | I did |
| 19:42.17 | Brox | :( |
| 19:42.18 | madclicker | does sarge by default holds log files for a few months? |
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| 19:42.21 | Pollywog | I don't see it |
| 19:42.24 | Brox | nobody knows? |
| 19:42.25 | Solid | ok now i see the boot screen : two options press enter or press F1 |
| 19:42.27 | Gnea | syl-2: oh, then the permissions on the drive itself are root |
| 19:42.33 | EvilSporkMan | Pollywog: try the second link. |
| 19:42.40 | Pollywog | thanks |
| 19:42.43 | Solid | what do i do to check the HDD is detected or not? |
| 19:42.51 | syl-2 | Gnea: meaning /dev/hdb or something like that ? |
| 19:42.59 | Brox | i'm freelance from now on |
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| 19:43.25 | Pollywog | so findpkg is a shell script? |
| 19:43.25 | EvilSporkMan | Pollywog: whoops, that's not it |
| 19:43.27 | Brox | #samba is also very quite |
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| 19:43.31 | Gnea | Solid: ok now at the boot prompt, just type 'linux26' and hit enter, without the quotes - at some point it will say something about the IDE scan, you may or may not be able to scrollback and read it with shift+pageup |
| 19:43.34 | EvilSporkMan | Pollywog: http://cvs.infodrom.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/scripts/findpkg?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain&cvsroot=infodrom |
| 19:43.45 | Gnea | syl-2: no that's the device itself |
| 19:43.46 | corvette | I forget, which mouse file was for the ps/2 mouse port? |
| 19:43.48 | EvilSporkMan | Brox: http://samba.org |
| 19:43.53 | Pollywog | thanks, I saw that but am not sure how to get it |
| 19:44.04 | dutchfish | Can anyone confirm if 3ware raid adapters SATAII-raid5 are useable under Sarge? |
| 19:44.07 | EvilSporkMan | Pollywog: save it. it's a shell script, hence the #!/bin/sh line |
| 19:44.10 | Gnea | syl-2: look, mount it as root first, then chown it to whatever user you want to have rw access to it |
| 19:44.21 | jim182 | Hello. debian ustable has xserver-xorg 6.9.0, and the fglrx drivers require << 6.8.99 so i can not install my fglrx. any ideas for quick workarounds until this is fixed? |
| 19:44.35 | Pollywog | yes I see it now, thanks EvilSporkMan |
| 19:44.38 | Solid | ok wait |
| 19:44.39 | Gnea | jim182: get an nvidia |
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| 19:45.05 | curt | why is dpkg not responding to me? |
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| 19:45.14 | Gnea | dpkg is dead |
| 19:45.16 | streuner | he hates you? |
| 19:45.21 | Gnea | DEAD JIM |
| 19:45.22 | curt | is it really |
| 19:45.25 | Gnea | DEAD |
| 19:45.26 | Pollywog | curt: what does it do? |
| 19:45.27 | corvette | vin` and ke6isf, last I checked it was 3.1 |
| 19:45.27 | syl-2 | Gnea: ok i'll try that, thanks |
| 19:45.29 | streuner | use ravenbird or apt instead |
| 19:45.39 | ke6isf | corvette: Then you probably have xfree. |
| 19:45.40 | corvette | Unless the upgrade somehow changed it |
| 19:45.49 | Gnea | ~dead |
| 19:45.51 | apt | yes :( |
| 19:45.51 | curt | Pollywog, nohing, /msg dpkg testing security returns testing security and nothing else |
| 19:45.55 | corvette | ahh, well how do I change to xorg? |
| 19:46.04 | streuner | ravenbird: dead? |
| 19:46.04 | corvette | just select it and install it? |
| 19:46.11 | EvilSporkMan | corvette: xserver-xorg is the package you are looking for |
| 19:46.11 | ke6isf | DPKG IS OUT COLD. |
| 19:46.12 | curt | i just want the 2006 key stuff |
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| 19:46.19 | corvette | That's what I have |
| 19:46.20 | streuner | oh |
| 19:46.23 | Gnea | curt: again, dpkg is awaiting a restart |
| 19:46.32 | corvette | that's what someone in here had me install a while back |
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| 19:46.55 | EvilSporkMan | corvette: then you have x.org installed. |
| 19:47.02 | curt | Gnea, poor dpkg, i will try back a little later, thanks... |
| 19:47.07 | Gnea | if only dpkg was crontabbed... |
| 19:47.08 | madclicker | is there a command to see what is currently in the cron schedule? |
| 19:47.08 | corvette | which mouse file is for a standard ps2 mouse (after I typed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:47.11 | streuner | curt: /msg ravenbird 2006 key |
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| 19:47.32 | Gnea | curt: what did you need to know? |
| 19:47.33 | ye_old | xinerama works like a charm :) |
| 19:47.39 | dutchfish | madclicker, crontab -l? |
| 19:47.54 | vin` | curt: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
| 19:48.21 | jeff01 | is looking glass worth it? |
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| 19:48.36 | streuner | dondelelcaro: your bot sucks |
| 19:48.48 | streuner | dondelelcaro: wake him up! |
| 19:48.57 | azeem | I told him already |
| 19:48.58 | corvette | will it be /dev/psaux ? |
| 19:49.01 | corvette | (that would be my guess) |
| 19:49.06 | streuner | azeem: fine :-) |
| 19:49.08 | ptlis | I've installed gcc through apt-get, but it didn't install the standard headers - whats the name of the package I need for them? |
| 19:49.10 | azeem | he's at the GPLv3 conference |
| 19:49.11 | Gnea | azeem: so did half the channel, probably |
| 19:49.30 | madclicker | dutchfish, not for root, i have log files in /var/log and something is compressing them on daily basis and only holds a weeks worth of logs, i need to change it to a "months worth" |
| 19:50.05 | tiCo89 | is here a debian developer interested in uploading this NMU (fixing 2 bugs, one RC): http://server01.marioiseli.com/~mario/dpkgs/NMU/asciijump/ |
| 19:50.10 | curt | streuner, ravenbird has trunkated the end of the command, does |... |
| 19:50.18 | ptlis | Eg, stdio.h doesn't appear to exist. |
| 19:50.28 | curt | i will look it up on debian.org |
| 19:50.58 | streuner | hold on |
| 19:51.12 | dutchfish | madclicker, logrotate does this job as far as i know |
| 19:51.25 | corvette | Well I'll try psaux and see what happens |
| 19:51.29 | dutchfish | madclicker, not cron |
| 19:51.38 | ke6isf | argh, I need some 2-cent stamps.... |
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| 19:52.48 | Maulkin | tiCo89: Looking |
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| 19:53.02 | madclicker | dutchfish, logrotate is called by cron? |
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| 19:53.22 | pookieboo | I have a Wget question.... IF i wanted to mirror a site but my login is an email address... how can i trick wget into working? am doing wget -m http://me@domain.com:password@domain.com and it still doesnt work.. any suggestions? i tried putting quotes too. |
| 19:53.28 | corvette | It worked, thanks |
| 19:53.28 | dutchfish | madclicker, man logrotate |
| 19:53.29 | corvette | Thanks everyone |
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| 19:53.35 | Maulkin | pookieboo: man wget |
| 19:53.41 | pumpkin0 | madclicker: or anachron ... so yes |
| 19:53.44 | Maulkin | pookieboo: Details are in there for HTTP auth |
| 19:53.52 | Solid | Gena i dont see it anywhere |
| 19:54.03 | pookieboo | Maulkin: i tried ustting the --http=user flag but doesnt work neitther |
| 19:54.35 | pumpkin0 | pookieboo: if depends on the password-system the site is using. |
| 19:54.40 | madclicker | dutchfish, my locrotate.conf has a configuration file to hold a months woth of logs and rotate on weekly basis but my log files are rotated daily for some od reason |
| 19:54.41 | streuner | curt: need to run a 'grep-job'... |
| 19:54.44 | pookieboo | --http-user=USER |
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| 19:54.53 | djp | do i edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 if i want to add a custom resolution? |
| 19:54.53 | pookieboo | pumpkin0 hrm |
| 19:55.01 | King_Brad | what is the command to rename a directory in debian? |
| 19:55.06 | dutchfish | madclicker, its 5 weeks rotation as par default as far as i know |
| 19:55.08 | pumpkin0 | King_Brad: mv |
| 19:55.18 | King_Brad | ty |
| 19:55.27 | streuner | <dpkg> hmm... 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 19:55.34 | streuner | curt: ^^^ |
| 19:55.40 | curt | nice |
| 19:55.42 | curt | thanks |
| 19:55.43 | madclicker | pumpkin0, i dont have anacron installed |
| 19:55.44 | foo | Does all mail that runs through fetchmail with postfix get parsed through .procmailrc ? |
| 19:55.49 | streuner | curt: hehe - true :-) |
| 19:55.51 | pookieboo | pumpkin0: i see their site page has a submit button with email/pass field and the source passes the variables to td><input name="email" type="text"></td> |
| 19:55.52 | pumpkin0 | madclicker: cron ? |
| 19:55.59 | madclicker | pumpkin0, sure |
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| 19:56.10 | halibut | Knetload says something is using my upload very heavily, how can I check what it is? |
| 19:56.12 | pumpkin0 | madclicker: so search the corn-tabs. |
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| 19:56.34 | roerich | foo: depends wether you have configured procmail in master.cf or not |
| 19:56.42 | dutchfish | madclicker, look ate the option --daily in logrotate |
| 19:56.50 | pumpkin0 | pookieboo: bad luck. That's not a normal http-auth. |
| 19:56.54 | tzafrir_laptop | halibut, netstat -tp |
| 19:57.09 | tzafrir_laptop | for a start, though it won't give you usage |
| 19:57.27 | Maulkin | tiCo89: Got a couple of isses with that package. Mind a /msg? |
| 19:57.30 | tzafrir_laptop | It will link network connection to a local process |
| 19:57.31 | pookieboo | pumpkin0: are u familiar with any software that can do this for me? other than wget |
| 19:57.44 | curt | 295 upgraded, 64 newly installed, 15 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 19:57.45 | curt | Need to get 350MB of archives. |
| 19:57.45 | foo | roerich: hmm, ok. thanks. I'll look into it. |
| 19:57.47 | curt | ouch |
| 19:58.11 | charolastra | pha; mine wants do DL 1gig ... |
| 19:58.16 | curt | hehe |
| 19:58.16 | pumpkin0 | pookieboo: nope |
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| 19:59.19 | madclicker | dutchfish, dont have it only "weekly" |
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| 20:00.02 | nav5 | question: how do I control startup programs in debian? Is there a central place from where I can check/uncheck programs that should run at startup, or do I need to configure each application that runs at startup individually? |
| 20:00.13 | pumpkin0 | pookieboo: if the site works with cookies, wget can use these too. |
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| 20:01.00 | dutchfish | madclicker, what does bring cat /etc/logrotate.conf? |
| 20:01.13 | stew | nav5: install and run rcconf |
| 20:01.19 | Solid | here is the full info |
| 20:01.20 | Solid | Ramdisk: compressed image found at block 0 crc error VHS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem) mounted defs on /dev freeing unused memory: 204k feed, kernel panic: no init found try passing init option to kernel |
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| 20:02.46 | Solid | Gena : I Get This Error |
| 20:03.03 | roerich | Solid: didnt you specify the initrd.img file? |
| 20:03.17 | Solid | i ahven t done anything ive just pressed enter |
| 20:03.29 | Solid | during CD boot |
| 20:03.30 | djp | do i edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 if i want to add a custom resolution? |
| 20:03.56 | Eno_ | Yes. |
| 20:03.57 | stoned | I have installed apache and php4 and apache-php4-mod etc. apache.conf as userdir for certain users enabled. I restarted apache, and when I connect to my server, no matmter which browser (http://bungs.dontexist.com) it asks me to save a phtml file. Why can't my apche do php file, I thoght I did everything that needed to be done. I am using a backup of my apache httpd.conf from sarge, I now have testing. everything is fine, except the php |
| 20:03.58 | roerich | Solid: kernel 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 20:04.03 | stoned | any help would be nice |
| 20:04.04 | Solid | Kernel 2.4 |
| 20:04.16 | djp | Eno_, thanks |
| 20:05.20 | Solid | ok ill tekk you ive just downloaded the debain 3.1 burnd it ive customiuzed nothing installed on my first server working perfetc on first server but i get the error during installation on secind server |
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| 20:05.48 | dutchfish | stoned, do you have mod enambled in /etc/apache/mods-enabled? |
| 20:06.28 | Solid | so whats wrong with the installation? |
| 20:06.30 | dutchfish | stoned, i meant enabled apache-php4-mod? |
| 20:06.46 | stoned | dutchfish: it should be as far as i know, this httpd.conf has been working for me for more than a year. I just updated to sarge, and it installed new apache, i then simply restored my httpd.conf and everything but php works. I did install the php module in apache,just the packages, do i need to dpkg-reconfigure apache? |
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| 20:07.18 | dutchfish | stoned, no |
| 20:07.29 | stoned | sorry |
| 20:07.34 | stoned | i just updated to testing FROM sarge |
| 20:07.37 | roerich | Solid: try reinstalling with kernel 2.6 |
| 20:07.48 | dutchfish | stoned, its either mime in your conf or mod enable, just check this |
| 20:07.50 | ansong | if i've manually installed sun's jre, manually setup the symlinks for firefox, etc. and i decide to update java with the java-package package, will it redo my symlinks? |
| 20:08.16 | dutchfish | stoned, and of coarse /etc/init.d/apache reload |
| 20:08.19 | Gathond | ansong: no |
| 20:08.30 | stoned | dutchfish: .../apache restart |
| 20:08.31 | ansong | crap |
| 20:08.43 | Gathond | ansong: but provided the new jre does not change any filenames/locations they should continue to work |
| 20:08.45 | stoned | or force reload |
| 20:08.51 | dutchfish | stoned, yes |
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| 20:09.10 | stoned | let me check the conf again. i doutbt its a conf issue |
| 20:09.19 | Solid | hwo to install with kenel 2.6? |
| 20:09.24 | stoned | its the same conf, just an updated apache, i did however install the php shit |
| 20:09.46 | roerich | Solid: read the faq in the topic |
| 20:09.47 | dutchfish | stoned, recheck your /etc/apche/mods-enabled dir |
| 20:09.51 | stoned | ok |
| 20:10.01 | Solid | k |
| 20:10.05 | ansong | Gathond, i don't think it'll install to the same location, and i don't want to leave the previous version installed. i'll just set them up again |
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| 20:10.42 | Gathond | ansong: if its a minor java version I think it ends up the same place |
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| 20:12.03 | stoned | apache apache-common apache2-common apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libapache-mod-auth-mysql |
| 20:12.03 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.06 | multi_io | how does one debug strange "can't allocate color 'black'" errors for X11 applications? |
| 20:12.09 | stoned | i have all these installed |
| 20:12.21 | ansong | Gathond, yeah but i installed the first one myself using the .bin from sun. eg, the path to java is: /opt/java/jdk1.5.0_04/jre/bin/java |
| 20:12.27 | stoned | i never installed apache2, ;only apt-get install apache, but i have /etc/apache and/etc/apache2 |
| 20:12.33 | multi_io | the X server is just one huge black box as soon as major errors occur :( |
| 20:12.38 | Gathond | ansong: ahh, in that case no :) |
| 20:12.38 | stoned | is that ok or should i remove apache2 under /etc |
| 20:12.47 | arcskon | Hey I'm trying to install my Belkin wifi card with ndiswrapper and I know exactly how to do it, but I need the file bcmwl5.inf...does anyone have it or the Belkin F5D7010 card? |
| 20:12.52 | dutchfish | stoned, looks like you have apache and apache2 running? |
| 20:12.53 | ansong | Gathond, yeah, i thought i was screwed. ;) |
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| 20:13.22 | stoned | dutchfish: strange, I never installed apache2. just apt-get upgrade from sarge |
| 20:13.23 | stoned | heh |
| 20:13.32 | stoned | let me remove ALL apache related shit and reinstall just apache1.3 |
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| 20:13.39 | gratuit | would there be any reason why lspci wouldn't find a sound device built in to my motherboard? |
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| 20:13.57 | ansong | gratuit, could it be disabled in the system BIOS? |
| 20:13.59 | stew | stoned: "dpkg -l | grep apache2" |
| 20:14.15 | dutchfish | stoned, just check dpkg -l | grep apache |
| 20:14.20 | jason^ | i'm having problems with logging out of my machine, it seems to not display any text or anything and never reboots, it happens with kdm,gdm, etc. i'm using fglrx, that might be a cause, but i'm not sure where to look |
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| 20:14.22 | stoned | too late |
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| 20:14.28 | stoned | its already removed |
| 20:14.29 | stoned | heh |
| 20:14.55 | ye_old | WPA-PSK is a "dumbed down" version of WPA, using passphrase for authentication, what would you rather suggest using on a private wlan? |
| 20:15.06 | stew | stoned: installing apache will bring in apache2-utils, which is expected |
| 20:15.08 | h2so4 | hi everyone, I installed Debian Testing, and xorg packages, but, when I run 'Xorg -configure' it heapens -> Missing Output Drivers |
| 20:15.10 | llgv | I need to runa a script next year at a specific time how to do that? |
| 20:15.14 | llgv | *tun a |
| 20:15.18 | llgv | *run |
| 20:15.31 | h2so4 | and xorgcfg -textmode doens't load database of video cards |
| 20:15.32 | stew | !drxx h2so4 |
| 20:15.35 | stoned | stew, yeah, I just found out, I figured i had two apaches running |
| 20:15.39 | h2so4 | how can I resolv it ? |
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| 20:15.54 | stew | @drxx |
| 20:15.59 | stew | do we have no bots? |
| 20:16.09 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.13 | llgv | I need to run a script next year at a specific time how to do that? |
| 20:16.14 | stoned | plus the packages are good |
| 20:16.17 | ke6isf | stew: I think all the bots are out. |
| 20:16.37 | Shadowcat | stew: go fix the bot |
| 20:17.10 | stew | h2so4: you should be using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to configure x |
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| 20:17.24 | malex | dcc accept |
| 20:17.31 | h2so4 | stew even dual head config ? |
| 20:17.46 | stew | h2so4: no, then nevermind |
| 20:18.05 | stoned | you know what i think the problem might have been, apt-get install apache on testing installs apache right, well install php4 wants to install php4 modules for apache2 not apache. apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php4 php4 |
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| 20:18.15 | stew | h2so4: or, well, use dpkg-reconfigure to get a working single head, then edit the file by hand |
| 20:18.33 | dutchfish | stoned, you could be right |
| 20:18.34 | stew | stoned: don't install "php4" in stall "libapache-mod-php4" |
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| 20:19.29 | neppanepenthes | Hello all |
| 20:19.36 | neppanepenthes | I've joined this channel |
| 20:19.43 | neppanepenthes | because I'm interested in Debian packages |
| 20:19.44 | stoned | stew, i just installed libapachemodphp4 byit self |
| 20:20.01 | h2so4 | stew by hand ? tanks, and why Xorg -configure doesn't work only whit debian ? |
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| 20:20.14 | neppanepenthes | and all the procedure needed to bring a program in a Debian package |
| 20:20.26 | tacocat | Ran into a cute one today, upgraded and now 'startx' points to /etc/X11/X which links to /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 which doesn't exist... |
| 20:21.12 | stoned | stew: there exist /etc/init.d/apache and apache2. i stopped apache2, restarted apache, and upon visiting my site, i get this. What would like do with this file? phtml Type: application/x-httpd-php. firefox/konq both report same thing |
| 20:22.03 | neppanepenthes | Who can help me ? |
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| 20:22.15 | ke6isf | neppanepenthes: #debian-mentor |
| 20:22.19 | dutchfish | neppanepenthes, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ |
| 20:22.20 | tacocat | I think my upgrade to xorg screwed me.... |
| 20:22.22 | Ronin | neppanepenthes: never mind |
| 20:22.35 | vin` | neppanepenthes: read the new maintainer guide |
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| 20:23.05 | ke6isf | neppanepenthes: You can join the debian-mentors list as well. |
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| 20:23.16 | stoned | what other configuration files can I check? |
| 20:23.46 | stoned | also, is apt-get install apache libapache-mod-php4 all that is needed to have apache working with php? |
| 20:23.55 | dutchfish | stoned, check you apache logs /var/log apache |
| 20:24.04 | stoned | ok |
| 20:24.46 | tonix | hy guys, the command netsta -n |grep ESTABLISHED on one of myserver tells me that there are some established connection to the 10000 port (webmin), but the log seems to be ok, and nothing is going wrong on the machine (...apparently...). What does it mean??? |
| 20:24.47 | tacocat | I switched the dpkg-reconfigure from xfree to xorg, but now the screen just blinks a lot.... then dies. |
| 20:24.48 | tonix | thanks! |
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| 20:24.57 | neppanepenthes | Thank you very much |
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| 20:25.11 | vin` | tacocat: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:25.39 | moret | what happen with packages.debian.org?! |
| 20:25.39 | limpio | the package 'build essential' is borked in sarge, is this the case in Etch? |
| 20:25.40 | meursault | hi guys - i use the program graveman to burn my data discs but suddenly i can't burn disc anymore. i get the error not enough free space to create iso image. |
| 20:25.47 | tacocat | Unable to find valid framebuffer device.... That's the first one. |
| 20:25.53 | stoned | [Mon Jan 16 14:16:39 2006] [error] (2)No such file or directory: mod_mime_magic: <<-- could this be a problem? |
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| 20:26.08 | tacocat | Last one is 'screens found, but none have a usable configuration' |
| 20:26.13 | corvette | Ok, I went to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and selected (for mouse) /dev/psaux . I ran startx and it says it can't run psaux. So I go to /dev and the file psaux does not exist. I typed apt-cache search psaux and can't find anything. How do I install /dev/psaux so I can get a ps/2 mouse to work? |
| 20:26.24 | vin` | meursault: no space in /tmp? |
| 20:26.26 | tacocat | dump the framebuffer and try again |
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| 20:26.40 | meursault | vin`, yeah tmp is only 90 mb big |
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| 20:26.42 | starfishy | corvette: on etch? |
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| 20:27.02 | starfishy | and what kind of mouse did you attach? |
| 20:27.19 | meursault | vin`, but i never changed the size of tmp i wouldn't even know how |
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| 20:27.25 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: status |
| 20:27.26 | dpkg | Since Mon Jan 16 20:27:00 2006, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 25s this session, and currently reference 31263 factoids. I'm using about 13524 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.02/0.14 child 0.01/0.02 |
| 20:27.36 | corvette | etch? |
| 20:27.41 | vin` | meursault: ignore, I may be just rambling. |
| 20:27.56 | vin` | dondelelcaro: how's v3? |
| 20:28.04 | corvette | I don't know how the /dev/psaux file got deleted. it must have been when I installed stuff from backdoor.com or whatever |
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| 20:28.13 | dondelelcaro | vin`: you can see for yourself: gplv3.fsf.org |
| 20:28.15 | starfishy | etch = testing |
| 20:28.22 | corvette | or backports |
| 20:28.22 | dondelelcaro | vin`: looks pretty good; a few minor issues as far as I can see. |
| 20:28.26 | vin` | dondelelcaro: skimmed |
| 20:28.28 | tacocat | Hmm... I didn't have the framebuffer on. recconfigured to get the framebuffer... no change... Even the logs are the same |
| 20:28.47 | starfishy | /dev/psaux is a device node that is used when you are addressing a PS/2 mouse |
| 20:29.14 | stoned | poopingis done through the butt |
| 20:29.27 | dondelelcaro | vin`: well, you're pretty much ahead of me right now; I haven't had a chance to really sit down with it yet having been in meetings and discussions all day so far. |
| 20:29.48 | corvette | Or whatever the repository site is for debian |
| 20:29.50 | vin` | dondelelcaro: don't forget to have fun. ;) |
| 20:30.01 | starfishy | are you using a PS/2 mouse? as in havinf one physically attached to your system? |
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| 20:30.07 | corvette | starfishy, the file is not there for some reason and my Ps/2 mouse won't work |
| 20:30.11 | starfishy | ah |
| 20:30.18 | stoned | hey, donde means here/where etc. |
| 20:30.25 | stoned | what is a lelcaro |
| 20:30.31 | stoned | im guessing it is spanish |
| 20:30.35 | starfishy | mknod c 10 1 /dev/psaux |
| 20:30.36 | stoned | all of it, right? |
| 20:30.40 | corvette | www.backports.org |
| 20:30.41 | meursault | how can i make a bi enough /tmp? atm it's only 90mb big |
| 20:31.00 | dutchfish | Can anyone confirm if 3ware raid adapters SATAII-raid5 are useable under Sarge? |
| 20:31.08 | corvette | thanks |
| 20:31.09 | dusty- | Hey guys, i really wanna install some uptodate packages on my debian 3.1. r1 release. (Packages such as, gnome, xchat, firefox etc) but the most recent of these packages via apt-get is there anyway to do this#? |
| 20:31.12 | starfishy | yw |
| 20:31.37 | tacocat | Well, I switched to the nvidia driver and turned on the framebuffer support and now I have something. |
| 20:31.50 | tacocat | But I would rather WDM worked over XDM. It's prettier. |
| 20:32.04 | tacocat | Anyone have any luck getting WDM to work under xorg? |
| 20:32.21 | quitte | tacocat: dpkg-reconfigure wdm |
| 20:32.23 | corvette | Invalid device type 10 |
| 20:32.23 | SerajewelKS | does tvtime do show recording? |
| 20:32.30 | corvette | starfishy, Invalid device type 10 |
| 20:32.35 | limpio | has anybody installed 'build essential' in Testing? |
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| 20:32.48 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 20:32.49 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 20:32.50 | King_Brad | is there a way , to mount 2 hard drives to the same mount point? |
| 20:33.05 | SerajewelKS | King_Brad: no |
| 20:33.11 | King_Brad | k |
| 20:33.12 | King_Brad | thx |
| 20:33.15 | SerajewelKS | King_Brad: that would be a dumb thing to do anyway |
| 20:33.32 | tacocat | OK, I'll try dpkg-reconfigure wdm..... |
| 20:33.33 | djp | hi i have edited my XF86Config-4 file and added the resolution 768x576 to it by adding said resolution to the mode line of each screen section. thus my mode lines now look like this... Modes "1024x768" "768x576". i have used ctrl-alt backspace to restart x. however when i go to change screen resolution under gnome, 768x576 does not appear? |
| 20:33.41 | SerajewelKS | King_Brad: you can symlink though |
| 20:33.44 | tacocat | THat was ugly... |
| 20:34.01 | King_Brad | okay, i made the partition in cfdisk |
| 20:34.04 | King_Brad | how do i format the drive? |
| 20:34.12 | SerajewelKS | King_Brad: mkfs.whatever_fs |
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| 20:34.18 | tacocat | no 'EE' in xorg.log either... |
| 20:34.20 | vin` | tacocat: try gdm or kdm |
| 20:34.26 | SerajewelKS | King_Brad: 'apropos mkfs' for a list of mkfs utilities on your system |
| 20:34.30 | tacocat | I've had trouble with WDM on xorg in the past.... |
| 20:34.38 | King_Brad | cool |
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| 20:34.45 | vin` | tacocat: wait, X still doesn't start? tried startx? |
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| 20:34.51 | jaccon | hi comunity, |
| 20:34.51 | tacocat | I know I can get the others to work (xdm, kdm, gdm) |
| 20:34.57 | Miesco | For ssh, I set KeepAlive to yes, but I still get timed out after being idle for a certain amount of time |
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| 20:35.09 | King_Brad | is there something somewhere that will explain the diff between diff nix filesystems? |
| 20:35.13 | SerajewelKS | Miesco: set keepalive on the server? |
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| 20:35.16 | corvette | how do I fix the psaux file (or create it) |
| 20:35.19 | dutchfish | Miesco, its security by default |
| 20:35.32 | vin` | corvette: 2.6? |
| 20:35.36 | tacocat | vin`: No, I got X working: selected framebuffers=>Yes and rebuilt my NVIDIA driver. But WDM is busted. |
| 20:35.38 | jaccon | please, i have the server running Samba 3.0.20 with Debian 3.1 ( sarge ) |
| 20:35.41 | Miesco | dutchfish: HOw do I turn it off? |
| 20:35.44 | tacocat | WDM is broken on several machine. |
| 20:35.45 | starfishy | corvette: mknod c 10 1 /dev/psaux |
| 20:36.00 | jaccon | i have problems with configuration in permissions .... |
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| 20:36.24 | vin` | corvette: are the mouse modules loaded? |
| 20:36.32 | tacocat | The Nvidia splash screen kicks in and then eventually it just 'poops' |
| 20:36.44 | King_Brad | would HPFS be a good filesystem for an ftpserver? |
| 20:37.03 | jaccon | please anybody make samba packages for Debian for help-me ?? |
| 20:37.05 | corvette | uhm..... no |
| 20:37.07 | vin` | King_Brad: use scp |
| 20:37.10 | King_Brad | scp? |
| 20:37.12 | starfishy | tacocat: run X by itself and look at the error messages |
| 20:37.17 | corvette | starfishy, Invalid device type 10 |
| 20:37.27 | corvette | is what it says when I type that |
| 20:37.29 | tacocat | By itself, X works 100% now. |
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| 20:37.32 | starfishy | oops |
| 20:37.33 | vin` | corvette: uname -r |
| 20:37.39 | starfishy | mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1 |
| 20:37.41 | tacocat | 'startx' works and so does xdm. |
| 20:37.43 | starfishy | thats the right order |
| 20:37.44 | King_Brad | !filesystems |
| 20:37.45 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. slow but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. medium speed, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use ext3, or see http://fsbench.netnation.com/ |
| 20:37.51 | corvette | thanks |
| 20:38.09 | tacocat | But it seems that wdm just can't handle the xorg xserver. I have the same problem on my notebook. |
| 20:38.17 | starfishy | they just had a shootout of the filesystems and ext3 didnt come up as slow at all |
| 20:38.21 | dutchfish | Miesco, /etc/ssh/sshd_config has a KeepAlive feature that is often commented out by default, that can be set to "yes" |
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| 20:38.35 | vin` | tacocat: then ditch it for now, use startx and chill. |
| 20:38.43 | corvette | thanks |
| 20:38.56 | vin` | corvette: what for? what worked? |
| 20:38.56 | dutchfish | Miesco, 2) ess /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time |
| 20:38.57 | King_Brad | okay, is there a program to format hdds in console that has some kind of a gui? |
| 20:39.09 | tacocat | :) I've been ditching it for 6 months.... I was just hoping someone had a clue about wdm |
| 20:39.11 | dutchfish | Miesco, 2) less /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time |
| 20:39.19 | pipeline | King_Brad: format? no. Partition? yes -- cfdisk. |
| 20:39.22 | vin` | tacocat: checked the bts? |
| 20:39.29 | tacocat | I have other problems today. Too many things got upgraded |
| 20:39.30 | King_Brad | k |
| 20:39.31 | tacocat | bts? |
| 20:39.32 | djp | can anyone help me with setting a custome resolution in debian using gnome? |
| 20:40.03 | charolastra | djp: you don't set a resolutino _in_ debian _with_gnome |
| 20:40.05 | vin` | tacocat: /topic |
| 20:40.09 | livingtm_ | Thestable netinstall CD just puked on my new laptop. Anyone know if the intel Centrino Duo is supported? |
| 20:40.24 | vin` | livingtm_: tried linux26? |
| 20:40.26 | charolastra | djp: you change the resolution of your X window system |
| 20:40.27 | King_Brad | mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1 worked |
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| 20:40.39 | dutchfish | miesco, ipchains/iptables firewalls can be configured to timeout ssh (and other) sessions. |
| 20:40.41 | livingtm_ | Vin` yeah |
| 20:40.56 | livingtm_ | vin`: i typed linux26 at the boot prompt |
| 20:41.19 | vin` | livingtm_: I would try a daily build iso, YMMV. |
| 20:41.25 | djp | charolastra, i want to have another choice appear in the drop down under desktop preferences/screen resolution on the gnome desktop |
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| 20:41.40 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 20:41.45 | livingtm_ | vin`: is that the same thing as etch or sid? |
| 20:42.07 | tacocat | Well, that's one.... |
| 20:42.15 | tacocat | Anyone using dovecot out there? |
| 20:42.18 | djp | icharolastra, i have so far edited my XF86Config-4 file, and added the new resolution on all the mode lines after my current (default) resolution |
| 20:42.19 | vin` | livingtm_: you could try a sid install, but it's not guaranteed to work. |
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| 20:42.27 | fleuret | hi people |
| 20:42.31 | fleuret | how are you today ? |
| 20:42.36 | tacocat | bad.... |
| 20:42.38 | fleuret | ho? |
| 20:42.41 | DevilChaos | im thinking bout running smoothwall but dont know as i have a disk for archive stuff and wonder if i can use some of it along side smoothwall60 gigs |
| 20:42.42 | harm1988 | i r crappy |
| 20:42.43 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 20:42.44 | fleuret | crashed a hd ? gf left ? |
| 20:42.56 | harm1988 | cant get my server to do what i want :s |
| 20:42.59 | fleuret | ho |
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| 20:43.02 | fleuret | serious stuff |
| 20:43.08 | dutchfish | DevilChaos, nope |
| 20:43.09 | fleuret | and what do you want it to do ? |
| 20:43.10 | nav5 | question: whenever I install an app using synaptic, how do I configure where it appears in the menu? or is that already predetermined in the package? |
| 20:43.16 | vin` | fleuret: do you have any debian specific questions? |
| 20:43.20 | harm1988 | i want it to do FTP .. for today |
| 20:43.21 | charolastra | djp: you will still have to change your X configuration; the old one was in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4; dunno about the one of X.rg |
| 20:43.22 | fleuret | vin no |
| 20:43.25 | charolastra | .org |
| 20:43.26 | fleuret | vin ? |
| 20:43.30 | harm1988 | i got apache2 configured but now it FTp :s |
| 20:43.33 | vin` | fleuret: then troll elsewhere. |
| 20:43.35 | DevilChaos | doh |
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| 20:43.40 | fleuret | vin pardon me ? |
| 20:43.43 | DevilChaos | :( |
| 20:43.55 | fleuret | vin you have a problem buddy? :) |
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| 20:43.57 | vin` | fleuret: no. ;) |
| 20:44.06 | fleuret | vin then chill out, have a beer, find a seat |
| 20:44.16 | tacocat | vin`: Thanks for the help... |
| 20:44.20 | djp | charolastra, i have changed my /etc/X11/XF86Confi-4 file. that is what i edited. |
| 20:44.25 | Miesco | dutchfish: It says 7200, what do I set it to? |
| 20:44.27 | corvette | well mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1 made the /dev/psaux file. I went through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reconfigured everything and when I typed startx I ge the same error |
| 20:44.46 | starfishy | what error? |
| 20:44.47 | dutchfish | Miesco, yes, thats the default |
| 20:45.01 | corvette | Preinit failed for deviced "Configured Mouse" |
| 20:45.02 | Miesco | Do I set it to 0? |
| 20:45.07 | fleuret | vin any competence in wpasupplicant? ;) |
| 20:45.12 | dutchfish | Miesco, echo -n 43200 > less /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time .. tochange (as an example) |
| 20:45.16 | vin` | corvette: is it a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 20:45.23 | corvette | yeah |
| 20:45.24 | starfishy | maybe your kernel has no PS/2 mouse driver? |
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| 20:45.39 | Miesco | dutchfish: How long is 43200? |
| 20:45.44 | vin` | fleuret: that was on my TODO, but my pcmcia socket crapped out. |
| 20:45.49 | corvette | uhm...... Good point |
| 20:45.53 | corvette | let me try another one |
| 20:45.55 | DevilChaos | what firewalling software can i use then? ive tryed shorewall not much luck how do i enable mangle support? |
| 20:45.56 | corvette | I have a bunch installed |
| 20:45.58 | dutchfish | Miesco, 6x longer ;) |
| 20:46.02 | starfishy | modprobe psmouse |
| 20:46.03 | vin` | !2.6 mouse |
| 20:46.03 | dpkg | from memory, 2.6 mouse is modprobe psmouse; modprobe mousedev; echo -e "psmouse\nmousedev" >> /etc/modules and choose mouse device /dev/input/mice and mouse type ExplorerPS/2. See http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
| 20:46.04 | fleuret | vin is there some subtilities about WPA and recent kernel versions ? |
| 20:46.06 | charolastra | djp: there is a section about "modes" add one you like there |
| 20:46.11 | dutchfish | Miesco, 6 x 2 hours |
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| 20:46.26 | charolastra | djp: then you can do CTRL + ALT + + or - |
| 20:46.27 | corvette | Is there a command to restart the computer (in opposed to turning it off)? |
| 20:46.33 | Miesco | dutchfish: The default is 2 hours? |
| 20:46.36 | fleuret | corvette reboot ? |
| 20:46.39 | corvette | Thanks |
| 20:46.40 | ke6isf | corvette: 'reboot', 'shutdown -r now', |
| 20:46.44 | dutchfish | Miesco, as far as i know, yes |
| 20:46.45 | ke6isf | corvette: 'init 6' |
| 20:46.51 | corvette | uhm.... init 6 ? |
| 20:46.52 | vin` | fleuret: there's a package called, 'wpasupplicant'. |
| 20:46.55 | corvette | Wouldn't that be a higher runlevel? |
| 20:47.00 | fl00d | corvette: reboot |
| 20:47.01 | DevilChaos | ctrl+alt+del = reboot! :) |
| 20:47.04 | corvette | heh |
| 20:47.05 | corvette | Thanks |
| 20:47.08 | ke6isf | corvette: No, because that is the reboot runlevel. |
| 20:47.14 | corvette | oh, heh. Thanks |
| 20:47.14 | fleuret | vin I have an old version with a 2.6.13, if I install the most revent under the same kernel, it fails, and the old one on 2.6.15 fails too |
| 20:47.20 | fleuret | revent = recent |
| 20:47.37 | fleuret | vin I feel like I missed something |
| 20:47.37 | ke6isf | corvette: In Debian, 0 is halt, 1 is maintenance, 2 is regular, and 6 is reboot. 3-5 aren't used. |
| 20:47.44 | dutchfish | Miesco, why would you have a connection idling for more then 2 hours? |
| 20:47.47 | corvette | halt turns it off |
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| 20:47.56 | fleuret | btw what is the grub option to force a runlevel ? |
| 20:47.57 | corvette | yeah |
| 20:48.06 | fleuret | to pass on the command-line at boot I mean |
| 20:48.11 | djp | should i have added the new resolution before my default resolution? |
| 20:48.12 | corvette | thanks |
| 20:48.12 | vin` | fleuret: you could try #wireless |
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| 20:48.41 | tacocat | I think what threw my installation off what xorg was installed and I didn't know it. |
| 20:48.52 | DevilChaos | how do i enable mangle support in the kernel please? |
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| 20:49.03 | tacocat | When it asked me to install xfree86 or xorg duing the configuration, there is only one right answer. |
| 20:49.12 | DevilChaos | xorg |
| 20:49.23 | tacocat | that's right. |
| 20:49.33 | tacocat | but they offer xfree86 as an option. |
| 20:49.37 | pipeline | tacocat: It doesn't actually matter which one you choose. |
| 20:49.38 | eck | why am i missing so many man pages (e.g. for cp, man, date, rm, etc.) even though i have the manpages package installed? |
| 20:49.42 | pipeline | tacocat: The xfree86 packages are also xorg :P |
| 20:49.46 | tacocat | Yeah.... it does.... |
| 20:49.57 | tacocat | I pick one and it breaks. I pick the other and it works.... |
| 20:50.00 | eck | is there a group i need to add myself to? |
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| 20:50.21 | tacocat | Maybe not by design, but by experience.... I'm not entirely convinced. |
| 20:50.25 | dutchfish | Can anyone confirm if 3ware adapters SATAII-raid5 are useable under Sarge? |
| 20:50.36 | pipeline | tacocat: You must be on testing rather than unstable, then. The dpkg option to choose one or the other dates to before xorg becoming the only option on unstable. |
| 20:50.36 | DevilChaos | is a nat just as good as a firewall? |
| 20:50.47 | Miesco | dutchfish: I keep a ssh session on all day with putty so I dont have to keep connecting |
| 20:50.50 | djp | is it not possible to add a new resolution that will appear as an option under screen resolutions on the gnome desktop? |
| 20:50.53 | pipeline | DevilChaos: A NAT setup is, by definition, a type of firewall. |
| 20:51.02 | corvette | The thing is I've used my ps/2 mouse with Kernel 2.6 before but perhaps something from backports.org got installed that doesn't work with it? |
| 20:51.12 | pipeline | djp: Those options are based upon what the X server reports is available through the xrandr extension. |
| 20:51.13 | abrotman | a pisspoor firewall :) |
| 20:51.18 | corvette | Or I have to install a module because somehow whatever I installed ruined it |
| 20:51.23 | dutchfish | Miesco, then go for: /etc/ssh/sshd_config has a KeepAlive feature that is often commented out by default, that can be set to "yes" |
| 20:51.26 | pipeline | djp: If you change your X configuration, the X server will report different resolutions as being available. |
| 20:51.28 | DevilChaos | yeah but it doesnt hide my ips behind it though i want to achieve that somehow |
| 20:51.42 | DevilChaos | pipeline: |
| 20:51.50 | corvette | The 2.4 kernel seems to work fine. Thanks (Now I have to figure out why). |
| 20:51.54 | djp | pipeline, i have edited my XF86Config-4 file. is there something else that needs configuring? |
| 20:51.54 | Miesco | dutchfish: I already did that, and it didn't work |
| 20:52.09 | pipeline | djp: You're going to have to be a lot clearer about what you want to happen. |
| 20:52.13 | DevilChaos | 2.4 kernel is 2 years old though |
| 20:52.26 | pipeline | djp: IIRC, the highest resolution available via xrandr is going to be the X server's default resolution. |
| 20:52.30 | dutchfish | Miesco, did your check your QoS of your line? |
| 20:52.57 | Miesco | dutchfish: QoS? |
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| 20:53.07 | djp | pipeline i want to be able to alter my resolution from the current desktop default of 1024x768 to 768x576. i want 1024x768 to remain the default though. |
| 20:53.23 | critch | is there a AMD64 Debian specific channel? |
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| 20:53.37 | dutchfish | Miesco, quality of service, are you behind a proxy or firewall that cancels time-out connections? |
| 20:54.09 | alucard | Hi, I run Debian.. is it possible to install a .rpm package on it? |
| 20:54.19 | alucard | (I'm a newbie) |
| 20:54.28 | dutchfish | alucard, aline |
| 20:54.29 | dondelelcaro | alucard: yes, but you're better off installing the equivalent Debian package |
| 20:54.32 | Miesco | dutchfish: I am using a router, I am not in the same network on this computer |
| 20:54.33 | dutchfish | alucard, alien |
| 20:54.48 | dutchfish | Miesco, thats what i meant |
| 20:54.56 | alucard | Oh I see, I'll look for it. |
| 20:55.06 | Miesco | dutchfish: Is it the router that is doing this? |
| 20:55.14 | dutchfish | Miesco, coul dbe |
| 20:55.14 | pipeline | alucard: It's a very, very bad idea, but possible. |
| 20:55.30 | dutchfish | Miesco, specially i you use adsl |
| 20:55.41 | alucard | There's no equivalent .deb package.. |
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| 20:55.58 | tacocat | How would I force a downgrade for one series of packages (dovecot*) |
| 20:56.00 | dondelelcaro | alucard: what program? |
| 20:56.03 | Miesco | dutchfish: Yea I use sympatico DSL |
| 20:56.09 | djp | pipeline, do i need to restart my pc in order for the changes to take effect or does using the ctrl-alt backspace command suffice? i have actually done the later though and no new resolution has appeared as an option... |
| 20:56.14 | alucard | Limewire. |
| 20:56.16 | dondelelcaro | tacocat: use the = option in apt-get or using aptitude pointed at snapshot.debain.net |
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| 20:56.19 | dondelelcaro | s/ai/ia/ |
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| 20:56.28 | alucard | dondelelcaro: Limewire. |
| 20:56.33 | tacocat | I can't use '=' yet. I have to downgrade it first. |
| 20:56.36 | dutchfish | Misco, just force putty do do something to reset iddle time (would be a workaround) |
| 20:56.37 | nav5 | question: if I uncheck a program for startup using rcconf, how can I put it back in startup again? It dissapeared from the rcconf menu. |
| 20:56.37 | pipeline | dpkg: Restarting the X server should be enough. |
| 20:56.50 | nav5 | nevermind |
| 20:56.52 | pipeline | dpkg: As I just mentioned, the list of resolutions in the gnome applet come from the xrandr extension. |
| 20:56.53 | nav5 | found it |
| 20:56.57 | pipeline | djp, rather |
| 20:57.11 | pipeline | djp: The xrandr extension will never list resolutions higher than the X server's default resolution |
| 20:57.36 | dutchfish | Miesco, i dont use putty so, just google on it |
| 20:57.39 | biffhero | I think unstable xorg is locking up my system. Is there a way to fall back to testing packages? |
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| 20:57.57 | pipeline | biffhero: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 20:58.15 | djp | pipeline, the resolution i want it to list is lower than the default resolution though... default=1024x768, new resolution is 768x576 |
| 20:58.30 | user__ | hi |
| 20:58.34 | Miesco | dutchfish: Okay putty does have a keepalive setting that sends something every so second, thanks |
| 20:58.38 | user__ | im having problem with my microphone |
| 20:58.47 | user__ | i cannot force it to work |
| 20:58.54 | user__ | i have unmutted it in alsamixer |
| 20:58.56 | biffhero | pipeline, thanks, but won't pinning just keep the testing at a higher priority? I want to nuke the current unstable packages in favor of the same ones in testing |
| 20:59.01 | tacocat | I was hoping to downgrade by apt_preferences, but .... |
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| 20:59.04 | user__ | bit i still cannot record in audacity |
| 20:59.06 | user__ | any ideas? |
| 20:59.11 | dutchfish | Miesco, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html |
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| 20:59.16 | tacocat | Package: dovecot* -- doesn't seem to be recognized |
| 20:59.22 | dutchfish | Miesco, i gues its putty |
| 20:59.38 | pipeline | djp: Well, that's a different problem. You want a very weird resolution. You'll probably need to add it via a modeline generator. |
| 20:59.44 | King_Brad | how would i restart a program that is listed in /etc/services ??? |
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| 21:00.04 | beardy | King_Brad: Which program? |
| 21:00.12 | dusty- | Hey guys, i really wanna install some uptodate packages on my debian 3.1. r1 release. (Packages such as, gnome, xchat, firefox etc) but the most recent of these packages via apt-get is there anyway to do this#? |
| 21:00.21 | King_Brad | beardy swat |
| 21:00.25 | biffhero | user__, just a stab in the dark here, but did you turn up the volume on the input? |
| 21:00.35 | ansong | for some reason, acpid won't start. it says "can't open /proc/acpi/event: device or resource busy" lsof | grep event doesn't appear to list anything about it though. should i just reboot? |
| 21:00.52 | beardy | King_Brad: '/etc/init.d/swat restart' perhaps |
| 21:00.56 | user__ | biffhero, yes, infact i have unmutted everything and turent up the volume as well |
| 21:01.00 | user__ | but it did not help |
| 21:01.07 | King_Brad | beardy no |
| 21:01.15 | King_Brad | no such file or directory |
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| 21:01.33 | dutchfish | dusty, backports.debian.org ? |
| 21:02.10 | beardy | !tell King_Brad -about swat |
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| 21:02.54 | biffhero | user__, about the only time I have ever been able to get input working on linux was by accident, where I was getting feedback from my laptop speakers through my mic |
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| 21:03.55 | triple5 | anyone keen on solving a postfix / courier / mysql etc issue? |
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| 21:04.06 | triple5 | I have pasted stuff in http://pastebin.com/508718 |
| 21:04.22 | tacocat | apt_preferences --> Is there any way to capture all the packages that match dovecot* |
| 21:04.33 | triple5 | The problem is, that I cannot receive or send mail from my server |
| 21:04.52 | user__ | biffhero, i had it working on gentoo long time ago and i havne't used it since then but i as far as i can remember it just worked |
| 21:05.02 | maxb | tacocat: I don't think so - I think it is just all (*) or a specific individual name |
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| 21:05.14 | tacocat | That's a lot of names... |
| 21:05.23 | maxb | Yeah :-( |
| 21:05.24 | dutchfish | triple5, seams your mysql service is down or mall configured |
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| 21:06.03 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 21:06.04 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 21:06.06 | triple5 | okay. mysql is up and running, I can access via phpmyadmin |
| 21:06.27 | ladyisabel77 | c'è un applicazzione che mi fa vedere i link non presenti nel menu di kde.. come si chiama? |
| 21:06.36 | blondie | ladyisabel77: no |
| 21:06.39 | blondie | SPEAK ENGLISH |
| 21:06.48 | beardy | King_Brad: Since it's run by inetd I suppose it only runs swat when there is a connection? so close all connections (browsers with swat loaded in them) and it should stop swat, and then run another one if you connect to it again. |
| 21:06.55 | ladyisabel77 | sorry |
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| 21:08.37 | foo | oops |
| 21:08.38 | triple5 | tacocat: what about apt-cache search dovecot??? |
| 21:08.39 | foo | I'm trying to make a receipt that echo's variables $TO, $FROM, $SUBJECT and $BODY to a file from procmail. http://pastebin.com/508691 - this is what I have. What have I done wrong? And I know I'm missing the :0 for a recipt ... any ideas? |
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| 21:10.18 | dutchfish | triple5, i would say something is wrong with amavis configuration and rights to its mysql db |
| 21:10.31 | triple5 | okay, I see to find that |
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| 21:11.29 | dutchfish | triple5, my first bet is mysql db rights |
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| 21:12.18 | stoned | i'm sure no one cares, but I fixed apache. I basically remove all apache related shit, then install apache2 and php4 and configured the port and thats all |
| 21:12.28 | stoned | thanks for the help dutchfish |
| 21:12.35 | stoned | and stew |
| 21:12.37 | dutchfish | stoned, yw |
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| 21:12.44 | starfishy | apache2 still has that 2GB limit |
| 21:12.47 | user__ | should there be any specail device for the microphone? |
| 21:12.51 | starfishy | apparently 2.2 doesnt |
| 21:12.53 | nichos | silly question, can anyone tell me the name of this key: { |
| 21:12.56 | user__ | or /dev/dsp is enough |
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| 21:12.58 | mikeb | hello, im having trouble with my adsl connection to my debian server. It says SDIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable or something. What is wrong? |
| 21:12.58 | stoned | starfishy: what limit? |
| 21:12.58 | nichos | couldnt find it on wikipedia |
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| 21:13.01 | starfishy | but there are no deb packages yet |
| 21:13.07 | zeballin3 | Please recommend a photo editor for a non-professional. Gimp is overkill and gwenview does nothing. Must be something that has some basic resize, and edit functions for digital photos? |
| 21:13.12 | starfishy | apache2 refuses to serve files larger than about 2GB |
| 21:13.13 | hfly | how do I list the packages available and install one from the list ? |
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| 21:13.37 | nichos | zeballin3 i think gthumb will do what you want |
| 21:13.38 | triple5 | dutchfish, courier_mail has all rights for my user |
| 21:13.42 | starfishy | i just served a 3.6GB file with a manually hacked apache 2.2 |
| 21:13.47 | KerPlunk | hfly: apt-cache search games; then apt-get install thenameofthegameyouwant; |
| 21:13.50 | KerPlunk | hfly: As an example. |
| 21:13.53 | beardy | zeballin3: The GIMP is great. You only have to use/learn the functions you need to use. |
| 21:13.57 | user__ | damn i need it |
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| 21:14.13 | hfly | KerPlunk: thanks a lot |
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| 21:14.19 | zeballin3 | gimp is really good but you have to be a rocket scientist to learn it! |
| 21:14.21 | mikeb | please someone, i am stumped |
| 21:14.22 | triple5 | dutchfish, but I am looking... |
| 21:14.36 | dutchfish | triple5, did you already check consistency (if your mysql db is running for a long time) or check for a disk that is on the edge of broken? |
| 21:14.39 | zeballin3 | I'll check out gthumb although I basically run KDE. |
| 21:14.44 | starfishy | mike: any number of reasons |
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| 21:14.54 | KerPlunk | mikeb: Exactly what the error says...network is unreachable. |
| 21:14.57 | starfishy | check your physical connections, interface configuration |
| 21:15.03 | mikeb | i did |
| 21:15.20 | mikeb | i am on the internet through my dads windows box atm |
| 21:15.21 | dutchfish | trple5, did you recently updated key-apps for this mailserver? |
| 21:15.28 | stoned | dutchfish: would you know how to get mysql to accept remote connections? |
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| 21:15.40 | zeballin3 | How about kamera? is that a pix editor? |
| 21:15.47 | mikeb | it can connect fine but the linux server says network is unreachable |
| 21:15.51 | dutchfish | stoned, yes, but i wouldnt rather advise you to do that |
| 21:15.52 | stoned | i tried my.cnf editing, and restarting the server, but i end up breaking it |
| 21:15.59 | beardy | zeballin3: Not at all. But for resizing a lot of files, imagemagick is more handy. |
| 21:16.02 | user__ | okay i have a microphone it is plugged into right jack and it is unmutted in alsamixer, adn it is sellected to mic1, but audacity is unable to record from it, any ideas? |
| 21:16.09 | stoned | dutchfish: my internal network is not hooked up to the internet |
| 21:16.10 | mikeb | the server gets a dhcp address from the modem |
| 21:16.11 | dutchfish | stnoed, better go through a ssh tunnel |
| 21:16.22 | stoned | security isn't a concern in this situtation |
| 21:16.25 | triple5 | dutchfish, I think I am just beginning here, I just rented the server three days ago, have never set up a mailsystem like that.. |
| 21:16.42 | user__ | is there anything else that shoudl be unmutted, except the 'mic' in alsamixer? |
| 21:16.43 | starfishy | if you can connect the network is not unreachable |
| 21:16.55 | starfishy | maybe you are looking at the wrong interface? |
| 21:17.08 | stoned | my faltulence stinks |
| 21:17.09 | triple5 | but I am confident. |
| 21:17.15 | mikeb | no, it detects the interface and im using the right interface |
| 21:17.18 | dutchfish | stoned, edit my.cnf to bind-adress 0.0.0.0 to run 3306 on internal and extrernal ip |
| 21:17.31 | starfishy | and what command exactly says 'network unreachable'? |
| 21:17.39 | zeballin3 | imagemagick? I'll look at it. I really need something to make it easy to take a 2MB pix from camera and scale it down to 80K for emailing. KDE had a program called Kwikview but I think it is discontinuted. |
| 21:17.41 | stoned | dutchfish: fuck it dude, I'll just install mysql on this one |
| 21:17.42 | mikeb | Ping |
| 21:17.45 | mikeb | ifup |
| 21:17.49 | stoned | easier to get it done than editing shit |
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| 21:18.14 | starfishy | if ping says unreachable, what commands do work then? |
| 21:18.16 | beardy | zeballin3: Try KPaint or whatever they call it. But you will feel limited after five minutes. What are you going to do, only resize images, or edit them in some way? |
| 21:18.23 | dutchfish | stoned, ? |
| 21:18.31 | mikeb | starfishy, none that i know |
| 21:18.34 | mikeb | of |
| 21:18.43 | starfishy | then why did you say you can connect? |
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| 21:18.50 | starfishy | if you can connect, some commands must work |
| 21:19.06 | starfishy | or what did you mean with 'i can connect'? |
| 21:19.07 | mikeb | starfishy because my server actually binds itself to the internet ip |
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| 21:19.14 | bgat | what application (sarge) do I use to burn a data dvd-r? |
| 21:19.14 | starfishy | that doesnt say anything |
| 21:19.18 | zeballin3 | beardy: I just want to do basic cropping and make the file-sizes smaller to email to family. Can't email a 2MB pix.!! |
| 21:19.21 | starfishy | what does ifconfig eth0 say? |
| 21:19.22 | netman1 | Hi All. Commandline command to change ":<newline> " to ": ", sed or awk, I don't care as long as it work. Someone, please? |
| 21:19.43 | *** part/#debian Varoudis (n=Varoudis@athedsl-11429.otenet.gr) |
| 21:19.46 | dutchfish | triple5, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge |
| 21:19.51 | zeballin3 | I know gimp can do it... but I assume from looking at program that it is a long learning curve. Maybe if I can find a good gimp tutorial. I know there are some out there. |
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| 21:19.55 | zeballin3 | via google. |
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| 21:20.03 | starfishy | do you have a default route entry in your routing table? |
| 21:20.08 | mikeb | starfishy, i can't copy it cause the server isn't on the net atm |
| 21:20.09 | beardy | zeballin3: In GIMP, you have the tools, thatyou select and use by. But the more important part is the menu, just right click on the image, and you have everything there, try scale, if that is what you want. Or the croptool, it's just click, drag, hit Ok. Play around a bit and you'll learn. |
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| 21:20.30 | beardy | zeballin3: use by clicking and dragging* |
| 21:20.33 | starfishy | just check whether it has an ip address and the __correct__ netmask |
| 21:20.34 | mikeb | but it says the internet ip, broadcast ip and everything |
| 21:20.44 | smarco | newbie question: when i searched for the app "documancer" at the debian package database it showed it, but now having installed debian unstable apt-cache search documancer doesnt find anything. why? |
| 21:20.50 | starfishy | in your routing table, is there a default entry? |
| 21:20.57 | mikeb | yes |
| 21:21.02 | starfishy | what does it point to? |
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| 21:21.17 | zeballin3 | Anyone know of a gimp tutoria that is especially good? |
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| 21:21.38 | mikeb | its not connected atm but it is 202.173.145.0 |
| 21:21.38 | netman1 | smarco: dselect update, (at least when you search with 'dpkg -S documancer') |
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| 21:21.54 | mikeb | and a * in the next column |
| 21:21.59 | starfishy | if its not connected it doesnt surprise me that other networks are unreachable |
| 21:22.18 | netman1 | smarco: or else install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search documancer |
| 21:22.21 | mikeb | starfishy, i have to talk to you |
| 21:22.22 | starfishy | thats not a default entry btw |
| 21:22.24 | starfishy | ok |
| 21:22.26 | smarco | netman1: ill try that thanks |
| 21:22.38 | mikeb | otherwise i wouldn't have the net |
| 21:22.40 | beardy | zeballin3: for example http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Lite_Quickies/ |
| 21:22.42 | triple5 | thanks dutchfish, I have followed another one: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier |
| 21:22.49 | mikeb | so why isn't it a default entry? |
| 21:22.51 | triple5 | I know how to set up debian, it is all done... |
| 21:22.52 | starfishy | i thought you dont have the net |
| 21:22.58 | PCline | i just installed clamav via apt and after i start it i get this |
| 21:23.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 777] by debhelper |
| 21:23.05 | starfishy | what happens if you ping another host on the same lan segment? |
| 21:23.05 | PCline | This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated |
| 21:23.14 | triple5 | PCline |
| 21:23.18 | PCline | so why its apt installing a old version of clamav ? |
| 21:23.25 | mikeb | starfishy, i don't |
| 21:23.29 | triple5 | this is normal, read the docs on the URL of clamav |
| 21:23.30 | beardy | zeballin3: Work on copies of your photos, whichever program you use though. |
| 21:23.36 | mikeb | starfishy, im talking to you through my dads windows box |
| 21:23.39 | azeem | PCline: because it was what was available at the time Debian released |
| 21:23.41 | PCline | it should install always the latest one |
| 21:23.42 | azeem | !volatile |
| 21:23.42 | dpkg | well, volatile is debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/ |
| 21:23.46 | mikeb | its working on windows, its not working on my server |
| 21:23.50 | azeem | PCline: see volatile |
| 21:23.55 | zeballin3 | beardy: thanks for the link. It' is pretty old but maybe the basics are still the same? (I know about making copies of pix.) |
| 21:23.57 | starfishy | well, if you get the ip address but cannot ping the routing table is likely the culprit |
| 21:24.03 | triple5 | PCline: because it isn't old, it is just not the very newest, you have to compile from source... |
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| 21:24.10 | starfishy | if there is a * in the entry it is not the default route |
| 21:24.15 | starfishy | the default route looks like this: |
| 21:24.28 | starfishy | default somehost.somenet 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 21:24.30 | triple5 | PCline, however, it should work anyway... |
| 21:24.46 | mikeb | oh |
| 21:24.48 | dutchfish | triple5, i gues recheck the amavis part |
| 21:24.59 | dsr | anyone having problems with mutt and ssmtp on unstable ?? |
| 21:25.00 | starfishy | and somehost.somenet needs to be an existing host that you can actually reach |
| 21:25.10 | dsr | I get 'System I/O error' when trying to send a message |
| 21:25.11 | starfishy | iow most likely your dsl router or such |
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| 21:25.23 | mikeb | it says <my ip> * 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 21:25.38 | triple5 | I just did that, have changed the entry to use postfix, can I disable amavis temporarily to see if it works without it? |
| 21:25.43 | beardy | dsr: Checked the bts? |
| 21:25.57 | dsr | beardy: yes.. i could not find anything relevant |
| 21:26.05 | beardy | dsr: Ok |
| 21:26.06 | mcm | how can i change temporaly the HOME env. so that the program writes it's stuff to an alternative home? there was a way to do that but i can't remember.... |
| 21:26.08 | mikeb | starfishy, i will try it out now. Can i talk to you in a few minutes? |
| 21:26.22 | dsr | beardy: looks like it happened after a dist-upgrade yesterday |
| 21:26.27 | mcm | "HOME=/tmp ./program.sh" won't work.... |
| 21:27.34 | smacnay | I am using Debian "testing" and, after doing an 'apt-get update' see that a newer version of python (2.3.5-4) from unstable is going to replace my 2.3.5. In replacing, quite a few of my apps will be removed. Should a hold python or hold my apps (all of which appear to need python version 2.3.x? |
| 21:27.42 | bleaked | are there any good alternative kernel images out there with debs available? maybe something within the main reps, or possibly outside that someone could recommend for a casual desktop machine? |
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| 21:28.08 | dutchfish | triple5, did you adjust line 112 amavisd.conf? |
| 21:28.37 | mcm | bleaked: if you don't like the debian's why not compiling your-self? |
| 21:29.14 | dutchfish | triple5, according to your databasesetings? |
| 21:29.25 | ansong | is there a way to save video streams? ie, i've got lectures online that i'd like to save. the url is something like mms://231.176.155.11/itv/NURS1234_0113_0900.wmv is there something that'll stream them into a file? |
| 21:29.40 | beardy | bleaked: What's wrong with the stock kernels? |
| 21:29.48 | bleaked | mcm. i have been, actually, but im sort of sick of doing it. and there's really nothing wrong with debs, i was just wondering about other, just as good, kernels. maybe some which offer interesting features or optimizations, patches, whatever. |
| 21:29.57 | tacocat | OK!!! I'm happy again.... |
| 21:30.05 | bleaked | beardy. ^^ |
| 21:30.11 | tacocat | Lots of forced downgrades later and I'm "back in black" |
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| 21:30.33 | PCline | is mapleyr not available ? |
| 21:30.38 | PCline | via apt ? :( |
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| 21:30.46 | Zvpun | once I "apt-get source konquest" how can I unpack the kdegames.tar.bz2 Should I use bzip2 or is there a debian tool that unpacks and applies debian patches to the original src? |
| 21:30.49 | tacocat | well, there might be a mplayer package... |
| 21:30.51 | jair_11 | anyone here use zoneedit? |
| 21:31.10 | PCline | does anyone know a apt repos so i can install mplayer ? |
| 21:31.27 | tacocat | merillat? |
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| 21:31.35 | mcm | bleaked: in my experience even the stock kernel isn't good enough. i even can't compile truecrypt modules with it. so i just returned back to compiling my own kernels... |
| 21:31.36 | beardy | !tell PCline -about mplayer |
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| 21:32.44 | mcm | ansong: are you using mplayer or xine based players? |
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| 21:33.06 | Newck | ansong: i've always used asfrecorder under wine |
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| 21:33.17 | smacnay | ansong: song, use mplayer and dumpstream to file |
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| 21:33.27 | mcm | ansong: with xine you can do "xine http://host/file#save:localfilename" |
| 21:33.48 | smacnay | PCline: I would install from their cvs. Fewer hassles. |
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| 21:34.02 | Shadda | Anyone know a good extensible ftp daemon, that'll allow me to write scripts for it? |
| 21:34.03 | mcm | ansong: and with mplayer use the -dumpstream argument |
| 21:34.18 | Shadda | Essentially, I want to setup an ftp server wherein all files uploaded are run through a validation script, and then logged |
| 21:34.35 | dutchfish | Sadda, vsftpd, proftpd |
| 21:34.35 | PCline | smacnay mplayer from cvs you mean ? |
| 21:34.50 | bleaked | Shadda. pure-ftpd? |
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| 21:34.55 | dj-death | hi alll |
| 21:34.57 | dj-death | -l |
| 21:35.06 | dj-death | anyone aware with raid5 ? |
| 21:35.07 | Shadda | bleaked, would it allow me to do what I want? I know you can hook it to postgres |
| 21:35.33 | Shadda | might be able to hack up a trigger if anything, heh |
| 21:35.53 | dutchfish | dj-death, looking a confirm if 3ware raid adapters SATAII-raid5 are useable under Sarge? |
| 21:36.07 | bleaked | Shadda. not sure, and im not the one to answer. i just said pure, because it's my ftpd of choice by far |
| 21:36.12 | corvette | uhm... I had a broken package, when I removed it now I can use my ps/2 mouse in Kernel 2.6 . Thanks everyone |
| 21:36.37 | dj-death | dutchfish: well I'm having problem with raid5 sata in fact |
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| 21:36.42 | stew | corvette: modprobe mousedev ; modprobe psmouse ; add psmouse and modprobe to /etc/modules |
| 21:36.46 | Chris62vw | I forgot which debian version I want to install |
| 21:36.49 | Chris62vw | I just got a new computer |
| 21:36.56 | dj-death | dutchfish: mdadm -E /dev/sda1 give me good informations |
| 21:37.03 | stew | !d-i Chris62vw |
| 21:37.04 | dpkg | Chris62vw, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:37.08 | dutchfish | dj-death, i cant help, i am just looking for someone that has expirience on them |
| 21:37.18 | Chris62vw | thanks |
| 21:37.25 | dutchfish | dj-death, thx |
| 21:37.33 | Chris62vw | I know how to install. I just remember there being sarge, woody, yadda yadda |
| 21:37.37 | dj-death | dutchfish: but when assembling the raid5 all parts of md0 seems to have the same slot |
| 21:38.00 | dj-death | dutchfish: I really do not understand why, it used to work fine this raidtools2 |
| 21:38.20 | dutchfish | dj-death, Sarge? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 21:38.32 | dj-death | 2.6 and sid not sarge |
| 21:38.47 | dusty- | Hey guys, i really wanna install some uptodate packages on my debian 3.1. r1 release. (Packages such as, gnome, xchat, firefox etc) but the most recent of these packages via apt-get is there anyway to do this#? |
| 21:38.50 | dusty- | Anyone? |
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| 21:39.16 | dutchfish | dj-death, the only adapters i got working so far ar for a del 2650 under Sarge with kernel 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 21:39.20 | stew | dusty-: /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:39.23 | beardy | Chris62vw: You want sarge. |
| 21:39.25 | bleaked | Chris62vw. well, initially you will just get sarge by going through the basic install. it's up to to you if you want to move from stable to testing or unstable. |
| 21:39.35 | smacnay | PCline: yes |
| 21:39.45 | dutchfish | dj-death, they refuse to work under testing |
| 21:39.50 | Chris62vw | beardy, bleaked, thanks |
| 21:39.57 | dj-death | dutchfish: sata works fine |
| 21:40.01 | PPSD | hi. newbie question: how do i make my proftp daemon automatically startup on reboot? |
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| 21:40.12 | Chris62vw | sarge is stable, right? I remember the "stable" version having an old kernel, etc. and the testing version being just right for me |
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| 21:40.24 | stew | Chris62vw: http://debian.org/releases |
| 21:40.26 | smacnay | anyone else here using testing, updating their .debs, and seeing python from "unstable" to be installed and a lot of programs to be removed? |
| 21:40.31 | dj-death | dutchfish: it seems raid5 has wrong headers |
| 21:40.32 | beardy | Chris62vw: You can run whichever kernel you wish. |
| 21:40.37 | dutchfish | dj-death, i want to buy 8506-2 SATA2 3ware raid 5 |
| 21:40.44 | beardy | Chris62vw: sarge is stable yes |
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| 21:40.58 | beardy | !tell Chris62vw -about releases |
| 21:40.59 | dj-death | dutchfish: I'm talking about software raid5 |
| 21:41.01 | Chris62vw | thanks guys |
| 21:41.07 | netman1 | Hi All. Any one please? I want to change ":<newline> " to ": " from the commandline, sed or awk and how? Please? |
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| 21:41.47 | dutchfish | dj-death, got software raid working under all super-micros, but had bad exp on asus boards |
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| 21:42.01 | Chris62vw | testing looks like what I want to use. I think |
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| 21:42.54 | dutchfish | dj-death, but want to replace for hardware raid because of performance issues |
| 21:42.56 | triple5 | sorry, can you believe my desktop froze, I thought I was useing a closed source machine... |
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| 21:43.13 | triple5 | dutchfish, sorry I lost you |
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| 21:43.41 | dutchfish | triple5, did you adjust line 112 amavisd.conf? |
| 21:43.42 | user__ | i have a microphone it is plugged into right jack and it is unmutted in alsamixer, adn it is sellected to mic1, but audacity is unable to record from it, any ideas? |
| 21:44.08 | dutchfish | triple5, according to your databasesetings? |
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| 21:45.04 | PPSD | no one can tell me how to auto-start a service on bootup? |
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| 21:45.47 | quitte | PPSD: man init |
| 21:46.01 | intero | PPSD: installing sysvconfig make it very easy |
| 21:46.12 | triple5 | dutchfish: my database settings where okay, username, host, password, and permissions where fine, I have stopped amavisd with /etc/init.d/amavisd stop |
| 21:46.15 | netman1 | **** netman starts crying... |
| 21:46.36 | triple5 | and it stopped... (sometimes it doesn't I have to kill the processes then...) |
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| 21:47.01 | PCline | hey guys i get an error trying to run mplayer |
| 21:47.06 | PCline | error : alsa-control unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 |
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| 21:47.11 | PCline | any ideea ? |
| 21:47.11 | corvette | thanks stew |
| 21:47.11 | dutchfish | triple5, now you can narrow down errors, check and recheck logs |
| 21:47.41 | sascha__ | i just installed debian, installed xfce4 and at startup it errors about being unable to establish any listener sockets. anyone familiar with this problem? |
| 21:47.44 | PPSD | quitte: yea i saw this init command but i'm kinda stuck. how do i make my ftp daemon start up automatically? |
| 21:48.08 | foot | why does apache2 serve raw html? it appears unformatted, like page source in every browser i try. why would that be default? |
| 21:48.27 | quitte | PPSD: if you used a debian package it should get started already |
| 21:48.28 | cat | hey how can i restart my usb mouse? |
| 21:48.37 | cat | i ready did hotplug restart but my mouse is dead |
| 21:49.43 | quitte | cat unplug it |
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| 21:49.43 | cat | i did quitte |
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| 21:49.43 | cat | and still dead |
| 21:49.43 | PPSD | quitte: the server was shipped with installed debian and unfortunately it does not startup automatically |
| 21:49.44 | quitte | cat for some reason the module for your host controller wasnt loaded then i guess |
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| 21:49.45 | quitte | PPSD: do you know which ftp server it is? |
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| 21:49.48 | PPSD | quitte: proftpd |
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| 21:50.01 | quitte | PPSD: init scripts are in etc/init.d . read update-rc.d to find out how to activate it |
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| 21:50.16 | cat | quitte: so how can i reload it/ |
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| 21:50.21 | triple5 | dutchfish, I have tried to narrow down the errors, and I am still trying, can you help me with some more steps, systematic? |
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| 21:50.28 | cbr | is it okay for a normal user to close obviously very outdated bugreports on the BTS? |
| 21:50.30 | quitte | PPSD: maybe it is disabled somewhere in etc/defaults |
| 21:50.36 | PPSD | quitte: seems to be kind of a strange distro, update-init.d does not exist |
| 21:50.40 | quitte | cat: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
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| 21:50.53 | quitte | PPSD: it's update-rc.d |
| 21:51.05 | PPSD | oh |
| 21:51.15 | dutchfish | triple5, did you already check by telnet 25 localhost to see postfix and initiate a session by hand? |
| 21:51.26 | charlie | Can anyone help me get to my desktop, i have installed debian, but, when i try to 'startx' i get an error that says 'fatel error, server is already running for display 0' what is the command to close my xserver so i can 'startx' |
| 21:51.35 | cat | quitte: what does it have to do with my mouse/ |
| 21:51.45 | foot | charlie, try rm /tmp/.X0-lock |
| 21:51.46 | quitte | cat sorry. nothing |
| 21:51.47 | intero | PPSD: edit /etc/default/proftpd first |
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| 21:51.55 | charlie | foot: as root? |
| 21:51.56 | PPSD | ok thank you |
| 21:52.05 | foot | charlie, look for the existence of that lockfile |
| 21:52.06 | beardy | charlie: Alt-F7, login, don't you want to use a display manager? |
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| 21:52.11 | quitte | cat try modprobe uhci-hcd |
| 21:52.40 | charlie | beardy, yes? |
| 21:52.46 | charlie | i just want to get to my kde :( |
| 21:52.52 | foot | charlie, you can 'ps ax' to see whats currently running too.. |
| 21:53.09 | beardy | charlie: Hit Alt-F7, is it running? |
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| 21:53.09 | cat | done quitte now? |
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| 21:53.28 | foot | charlie, or ctrl-alt-f7 |
| 21:53.36 | charlie | when i Alt-F7 it says, 'cannot display video mode' |
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| 21:53.44 | samuel | sup all |
| 21:53.51 | cat | !tell charlie about set up x |
| 21:53.54 | charlie | ermm, when i ctrol-alt-f7 that is.. |
| 21:53.59 | triple5 | I have done telnet see also: http://pastebin.com/508840 |
| 21:54.07 | starfishy | you may want to set a video mode your hardware actually can address |
| 21:54.15 | beardy | charlie: Are you really running debian? |
| 21:54.29 | foot | does anyone know why apache2 serves raw html as default? or how to change this? |
| 21:54.48 | foot | is there no 'it just works' _ever_? |
| 21:55.00 | dutchfish | triple5, i am intrested in what gave EHLO something |
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| 21:55.24 | PCline | can anyone please help me with the xorg driver ? |
| 21:55.36 | PCline | i try to watch a movie now with xine |
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| 21:55.54 | dutchfish | triple5, it woul dgive you a bunch of codes |
| 21:56.02 | PCline | in normal screen size works fine but when i want to watch it on fullscreen its play like a replay |
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| 21:56.15 | Condector | okay, hello people |
| 21:56.18 | jair_11 | anyone using zoneedit??? |
| 21:56.19 | charlie | beardy, yes... |
| 21:56.23 | triple5 | of course dutchfish http://pastebin.com/508848 |
| 21:56.28 | PCline | any ideea ? i think its because of the xserver-xorg video driver |
| 21:56.32 | user__ | okay i have solved my problem with microfphone - i had to mutte in alsamixer 'mic as c' |
| 21:56.36 | Condector | anyone knows a program for speaker to control and run programs?? |
| 21:56.37 | Kamikazee | PCline, ive got the same problem, frame rates drop really bad... |
| 21:56.41 | triple5 | so it is working properly... |
| 21:56.44 | Condector | in kde1 i remember 1 program |
| 21:56.47 | Condector | but now.. |
| 21:56.52 | PCline | Kamikazee what video card have you got ? |
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| 21:57.11 | dutchfish | triple5, postfix seams fine so far |
| 21:57.15 | Kamikazee | it was fine with my 6800gt but i fried it :P and im using 9100igp but standard vesa drivers |
| 21:57.15 | triple5 | yeah |
| 21:57.25 | charlie | ok |
| 21:57.26 | dutchfish | triple5, even tls is working |
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| 21:57.32 | triple5 | everything! |
| 21:57.40 | cat | a |
| 21:57.42 | dutchfish | triple5, i gues your problem is in the mysql db |
| 21:57.43 | samuel | anyone know how to reset firefox? seems like exalead has hijacked my firefox search feature, instead of using google it now uses exalead... ive already tried deleting ~/.mozilla but that did not solve the problem... this also happens in konqueror? wtf? |
| 21:57.44 | triple5 | but not sending or receiving mail... |
| 21:57.48 | triple5 | okay |
| 21:57.51 | PCline | Kamikazee same as me , using vesa driver :) |
| 21:57.52 | beardy | charlie: Is it your monitor that says that, like a popup message, like when you change it's settings? |
| 21:57.54 | dutchfish | triple5, specially the amavisd-new part |
| 21:57.59 | PCline | so no one can help me with it ? |
| 21:58.05 | dutchfish | triple5, i have to leave now sorry |
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| 21:58.13 | triple5 | okay, see you... |
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| 21:58.15 | ultime | hi |
| 21:58.17 | dutchfish | triple5, gl |
| 21:58.20 | ultime | http://www.goatse.ca/ |
| 21:58.22 | PCline | Kamikazee did you try any other player ? |
| 21:58.29 | Kamikazee | um no :P |
| 21:58.31 | foot | do i change this line in apache2.conf? : DefaultType text/plain ?? |
| 21:58.36 | foot | urrgh. |
| 21:58.38 | beardy | !ops sort out ultime |
| 21:58.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: sort out ultime |
| 21:58.44 | PCline | Kamikazee i tryed mplayer and xine same thing |
| 21:58.54 | gravity | Er... |
| 21:58.58 | PCline | Kamikazee i might gonna go back to fedora if i cannot solve this proble |
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| 21:59.16 | PCline | Kamikazee problem . i really like debian . but i also want to watch movies :) |
| 21:59.30 | Kamikazee | PCline, what video card have you got? |
| 21:59.35 | cat | anyone here knows a really good text mp3 player execpt from mp3blaster |
| 21:59.36 | cat | ? |
| 21:59.48 | PCline | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
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| 21:59.53 | Maulkin | mpg321/123 ? |
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| 22:00.00 | stew | cat: cplay + mpg?2? |
| 22:00.02 | beardy | cat: mpg321? But no curses interface though. |
| 22:00.20 | beardy | helix: Thanks. |
| 22:00.33 | Maulkin | cat: xmms-console to an xmms backend? |
| 22:00.34 | PCline | so no one can help me seeting up the correct video driver for xserver-xorg ? |
| 22:00.35 | starfishy | pcline: what exactly is the problem? |
| 22:00.41 | cat | stew: any ideas why my mouse isn't working at all ? |
| 22:00.47 | cat | i was using fluxbox and it died on me, |
| 22:00.54 | cat | and now i can't get it back to work |
| 22:00.58 | stew | cat: it was working and stopped working mid-session? |
| 22:01.00 | vin` | cat: tried chasing it? |
| 22:01.06 | PCline | starfishy i would liek to use the correct video driver , because i cannot watch movies with the vesa drivers |
| 22:01.11 | starfishy | the video driver is i810 |
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| 22:01.24 | cat | stew: yes and i did /etc/init.d/hotplug restart; but it frozed on me |
| 22:01.28 | starfishy | i am running a 945G mainboard |
| 22:01.31 | cat | or just didn't keep on going |
| 22:01.35 | PCline | starfishy i try that one already , its not working |
| 22:01.43 | starfishy | what exactly is it doing? |
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| 22:01.51 | stew | cat: have you tried unplugging and replugging it, and maybe "modprobe -r usbhid" with it unplugged |
| 22:01.53 | PCline | starfishy what do you mean ? |
| 22:02.03 | qsrv | hi |
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| 22:02.11 | starfishy | when you use the i810 driver, what happens? |
| 22:02.26 | qsrv | trying to get sid working on my t43 thinkpad, I have aproblem with the console |
| 22:02.31 | PCline | starfishy x doesnt start |
| 22:02.38 | Siv0x | beardy: ok it still says 'cannot display video modes' when i Alt-CTRL-F7 ;\ |
| 22:02.46 | starfishy | thats a bit generic |
| 22:02.47 | cat | yeah i did try unplugging it |
| 22:02.48 | bleaked | i would like to host a few images off of my box. apache would definitely be overkill, so i was looking at mini_httpd. are there any other quality super lightweight, yet secure, httpd servers? |
| 22:02.51 | starfishy | what happens if you try to start X? |
| 22:02.55 | starfishy | with the 810 driver |
| 22:02.57 | PCline | starfishy i might have to try 8 bits |
| 22:03.07 | starfishy | why? |
| 22:03.08 | qsrv | mc runs garbled - the panels overlap nad get redrawn when I move the marker, which leads to things getting messy |
| 22:03.19 | starfishy | you should probably try a lower resolution |
| 22:03.27 | PCline | starfishy you mean with i810 ,, it just doesnt , i get a error that the drivers its not supported |
| 22:03.29 | beardy | Siv0x: Sounds like you have selected the wrong resolution. /msg dpkg drxx |
| 22:03.40 | PCline | starfishy hmm |
| 22:03.45 | PCline | starfishy so leave 24 bits |
| 22:03.49 | starfishy | what version of X are you using? |
| 22:03.56 | cat | it says deregistry bla bla |
| 22:03.59 | cat | something like that |
| 22:04.05 | starfishy | if the driver doesnt support the card, lowering the display depth doesnt help |
| 22:04.31 | PCline | starfishy 6.9.0 |
| 22:04.36 | PCline | xserver-xorg |
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| 22:04.45 | starfishy | the intel driver in there should support the 915 chipset no problem |
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| 22:04.57 | starfishy | can i msg you? |
| 22:04.58 | PCline | nter an identifier for your video card. |
| 22:05.02 | PCline | what should i enter here ? |
| 22:05.04 | beardy | cat: When referring to what something says, if you don't write it, or paste it, it it's more than one line (/msg dpkg paste) it's really not helping anyone helping you. |
| 22:05.09 | PCline | starfishy sure |
| 22:05.27 | Siv0x | ok |
| 22:05.53 | Siv0x | what resolutions should i use? |
| 22:05.53 | beardy | s/it it's/if it's/ |
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| 22:06.01 | beardy | Siv0x: The one you want, and not higher than your monitor supports. |
| 22:06.02 | ptlis | Is there a HOWTO for setting up samba to not require password authentication to view it's shares? |
| 22:06.10 | Siv0x | beardy: i've picked the same ones i've always used.. |
| 22:06.12 | politik | I am using "pump" for dhcp, and it is not setting my gateway for some reason. Any ideas? |
| 22:06.21 | ptlis | Alas, my search terms are too generic for google. |
| 22:06.38 | bbrazil | ptlis: guest ok = yes |
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| 22:06.45 | bleaked | ptlis. using kde? |
| 22:06.51 | ptlis | Wow. so simple. |
| 22:07.00 | stoned | dondelelcaro: did you send me a message? |
| 22:07.10 | ptlis | bleaked, nope. It's a headless server. I access it through ssh. |
| 22:07.17 | bbrazil | ptlis: it might still ask for auth, security=share should fix that |
| 22:07.22 | bleaked | ah, ok |
| 22:07.34 | stoned | nm |
| 22:07.41 | bbrazil | ptlis: make sure you read up on the 'security' setting - its the most important in the whole config |
| 22:07.53 | beardy | Siv0x: Use the "Advanced" settings, enter your monitors refreshrates. Have your monitors manual available, or google your monitors manufacturer and model for the correct values. |
| 22:07.55 | ptlis | Okay, thanks :) |
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| 22:08.42 | Siv0x | beardy: how am i supposed to 'google' something when i don't have a web browser? |
| 22:08.47 | Siv0x | all i want to do is get to my desktop.. |
| 22:08.50 | beardy | Siv0x: Try a lower one, just to see if it works. You can reconfigure later. |
| 22:08.56 | Kamikazee | How is 3.5 going in sid these days? any major bugs? |
| 22:08.59 | beardy | Siv0x: Why don't you have that? |
| 22:09.12 | Siv0x | nvm, i do |
| 22:09.20 | Siv0x | i'm just not used to not having a desktop.. haha |
| 22:09.37 | beardy | Siv0x: Even the netinstaller installs some browser IIRC. |
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| 22:10.02 | Siv0x | last time i installed debian, i had a friend set my desktop up, and he got it up just fine... now i can't get it up myself.. |
| 22:10.10 | cat | beardy: is really hard for me to pasted here without a moused, |
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| 22:10.44 | Siv0x | when i ctrl+alt+f7 it says 'cannot display video modes' and when i startx it says that there is already a server already active for 0 |
| 22:10.55 | beardy | Siv0x: You will. Try with a lower resolution to start with. |
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| 22:11.02 | Siv0x | ok :( |
| 22:11.19 | PerfDave | cat: Use screen :) |
| 22:11.23 | PerfDave | Hmm, I was going to write a handy HOWTO on navigating from the command line |
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| 22:11.39 | triple5 | ogtta gosee ya |
| 22:11.42 | beardy | Siv0x: (after you have reconfigured you must restart X, '/etc/init.d/kdm restart' if you didn't know) |
| 22:11.54 | triple5 | quit |
| 22:12.07 | beardy | Siv0x: If it's kdm you are running that is. |
| 22:12.14 | Siv0x | yeh :D |
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| 22:13.27 | beardy | Siv0x: Which video driver did you select, and what gfx card do you have? |
| 22:13.47 | Siv0x | i have a nvidia geforce 8600 |
| 22:13.54 | Siv0x | and i picked vesa |
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| 22:14.01 | Siv0x | and, it found it |
| 22:14.02 | beardy | Siv0x: Try nv instead. |
| 22:14.10 | lindenle | or get the nvidia drivers |
| 22:14.26 | Siv0x | whats the apt-get install command to get my nvidia drivers? |
| 22:14.27 | beardy | Siv0x: But vesa should work fine (at least work) too. |
| 22:14.55 | lindenle | Siv0x: they are proprietary and come from nvidias web site. |
| 22:15.03 | beardy | Siv0x: "/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner" or "nvidia howto" |
| 22:15.19 | slippery_pete | http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html |
| 22:15.26 | beardy | !tell lindenle -about nvidia |
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| 22:15.45 | lindenle | beardy: thx new infor for me |
| 22:15.57 | beardy | Siv0x: But don't bother with at now. Try with the nv driver. |
| 22:16.13 | beardy | that |
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| 22:16.38 | Siv0x | so i don't need to do that right now beardy? |
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| 22:16.51 | starfishy | the nv driver works just fine unless you want 3d |
| 22:17.02 | starfishy | so for testing the nv driver is preferable |
| 22:17.04 | beardy | Siv0x: No, you can do it later if you wish. What starfishy just said. |
| 22:17.22 | starfishy | once the config works you can just plug in the nvidia driver and it will work |
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| 22:17.59 | beardy | 3D you can get anyway, it's accelerated 3D graphics you can't get with nv. |
| 22:18.22 | ptlis | bbrazil, i've set security to server and guest ok = yes on the directory I want to share but I still can't create directorys/files remotely. Any idea what i'm missing? |
| 22:18.22 | beardy | bah.. |
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| 22:19.23 | bbrazil | ptlis: permissions |
| 22:19.33 | mikeb | hi, im having so much trouble with the kernel routing table :'-( . how can i add a default route so i can connect to the internet? atm the computer is telling me that the network is unreachable |
| 22:19.45 | bbrazil | ptlis: also I doubt you want security set to server if you want passwordless access |
| 22:19.47 | ptlis | Is that the directory/create mask? |
| 22:20.07 | blondie | ptlis: no it's not |
| 22:20.11 | mikeb | i've tried to add a route but i keep doing it wrong as it doesn't add any routes that i try add |
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| 22:20.35 | mikeb | and that didn't make much sense, but anyway |
| 22:20.36 | bbrazil | ptlis: the permisions on the actual directories themselves |
| 22:20.43 | ptlis | smb doesn't have permissions to futz with the directory itself? |
| 22:20.45 | ptlis | Ah, I see. |
| 22:20.55 | chops | mikeb: You probably don't want to fool with routing; the usual way is to set things up in /etc/network/interfaces and let ifup and ifdown do the work |
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| 22:21.37 | ptlis | I assume there's an smb user? |
| 22:21.38 | mikeb | chops: ive tried that already |
| 22:22.08 | mikeb | chops: when i say ifup, SDICOARRT says that the network is unreachable |
| 22:22.14 | mikeb | i try ping anything and it doesn't work |
| 22:22.23 | mikeb | network is unreachable |
| 22:22.34 | bleaked | if one wishes to install an application which is in the experimenal tree..can one just safely add 'experimental' to the end of his sources.list, or what is the proper protocol for doing this? |
| 22:22.48 | bbrazil | !iyhtays |
| 22:22.49 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
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| 22:22.56 | mikeb | i hook the modem up to my dads windoze box and it instantly works |
| 22:22.57 | chops | mikeb: My advice is to try harder. :-) man 5 interfaces. Can you put your interfaces file somewhere where I can take a look at it? |
| 22:23.08 | mikeb | my interfaces file is fine |
| 22:23.15 | mikeb | ive been using it for 2 years now |
| 22:23.19 | bleaked | bbrazil. well, i want experiment w/ a spare box. |
| 22:23.39 | mikeb | my modem fucked up so i bought a new modem |
| 22:23.48 | mikeb | and im trying to connect my new modem |
| 22:23.53 | mikeb | its being a bitch |
| 22:23.57 | chops | mikeb: You shouldn't have to fool with the routing table under any normal circumstances. Okay, if your interfaces file is set up properly, is it possible that you've got hardware problems or some such? |
| 22:24.17 | mikeb | my old modem has been the hardware problem |
| 22:24.18 | KerPlunk | !tell mikeb about enter |
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| 22:24.35 | bluefox83 | anyone know where to get ahold of tribes 1 for linux? |
| 22:24.37 | chops | mikeb: Oh, okay -- you need to set up your new modem first, then. |
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| 22:25.29 | chops | mikeb: What kind of modem is it? Have you tried googling for the modem make and 'debian' to see how other people may have gotten it to work under GNU/Linux? |
| 22:25.31 | mikeb | chops: i have set it up to dhcp. My computer gets the external ip address and is bound to it but i can connect to anything. and it says that the network is unreachable |
| 22:25.48 | Darien | hey all - I have a .service file which is probably meant to be used for RedHat or something, can I use this as an init script in Debian? |
| 22:26.11 | vin` | Darien: rcconf or update-rc.d |
| 22:26.27 | vin` | or bum ;) |
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| 22:27.21 | starfishy | mike: have you set the default route correctly? |
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| 22:27.33 | starfishy | the modem is not your problem if you get an ip address |
| 22:27.33 | ansong | i'm getting a bzip2 error on apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/508914 |
| 22:27.58 | chops | mikeb: Does your routing table have a default gateway in it? Can I take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 22:28.09 | vin` | !dbugs 348266 |
| 22:28.14 | dpkg | DONE:#348266:S[bzip2] upgrading fails; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:18:06 UTC |
| 22:28.17 | mikeb | chops: atm, my routing table doesn |
| 22:28.24 | mikeb | chops: atm, my routing table doesn't have a gateway in it |
| 22:28.33 | starfishy | well, if your routing table doesnt have a gateway, thats your problem |
| 22:28.59 | vin` | ansong: check if the new package in available on the mirrors or get them from incoming. |
| 22:29.05 | starfishy | you need to set a default route pointing to the gateway at your provider |
| 22:29.15 | starfishy | if you dont do that you will get 'network is unreachable' |
| 22:29.20 | mikeb | shouldn't it update the routing table when it dhcp's the ip address? |
| 22:29.29 | chops | mikeb: Yes, it should. |
| 22:29.35 | mikeb | if not, what should the gateway look like? |
| 22:29.37 | mikeb | oh |
| 22:29.38 | starfishy | technically it should but your provider probably fudged his DHCP config |
| 22:29.43 | mikeb | wtf is happening |
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| 22:29.53 | chops | mikeb: Have you tried taking down the interface and taking it back up (ifdown and then ifup)? |
| 22:29.55 | starfishy | route add default gw XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX |
| 22:30.08 | mikeb | chops: 1000's of times now |
| 22:30.11 | chops | starfishy: Well, that'll only fix it _this_ time :-) |
| 22:30.12 | mikeb | maybe more |
| 22:30.13 | mikeb | ;) |
| 22:30.15 | starfishy | you may want to replace the Xes with the actual IP of the gateway |
| 22:30.25 | starfishy | chops: right now im just trying to get his config up |
| 22:30.39 | starfishy | and having him edit and ifdown/ifup interfaces is not going to do that |
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| 22:31.06 | starfishy | once he gets his config done ill tell him how to edit the config file |
| 22:31.38 | mikeb | starfishy, i typed that command with the ips but when i pressed enter, it said, SDIOCARRT: Network is unreachable |
| 22:31.52 | mikeb | and it didn't add anything to the table |
| 22:31.59 | starfishy | mikeb: can you msg me your routing table? |
| 22:32.05 | chops | mikeb: Fair enough. I don't understand how you could get an address via DHCP without also getting a default route, really. Do you have any other network interfaces in that machine? I hate to ask again, but are you _sure_ there's nothing wrong with /etc/network/interfaces? :-) |
| 22:32.09 | foot | can anyone recommend a lite httpd with cgi support that isnt a huge pain to set up? |
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| 22:32.28 | starfishy | apache1.3? |
| 22:32.31 | blondie | apache is easy to setup, dunno about light |
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| 22:32.41 | mikeb | starfishy, i can give you my routing table, its going to take a few minutes though |
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| 22:32.47 | ansong | vin`, thanks |
| 22:32.57 | mikeb | no, nothing is wrong with /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:33.02 | mikeb | :P |
| 22:33.04 | starfishy | i really only need the line with your ppp interface |
| 22:33.11 | foot | starfishy, blondie, for some reason apt keeps exiting with an error 1 when i try to install apache1.3 :( |
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| 22:33.28 | blondie | what error? |
| 22:33.32 | starfishy | it might be beneficial for troubleshooting if you told us the error |
| 22:33.34 | chops | starfishy: Hmm... my feeling is that getting his config working will be easier at a high level than a low level. YMMV. |
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| 22:33.46 | foot | unexpected quit = error 1 (i think?) |
| 22:34.04 | starfishy | chops: what do you mean with 'at high level'? |
| 22:34.20 | chops | I mean at the level of interfaces and ifup/ifdown as opposed to routing. |
| 22:34.38 | foot | thx anyhow though, im off to find something else :/ |
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| 22:35.03 | chops | starfishy: If the Debian networking layer is functioning properly, playing with 'route' is not productive on a machine which is using DHCP to get its networking information. |
| 22:35.04 | starfishy | well, routing and the interfaces are two separate entities except for the gateway entry |
| 22:35.06 | multi_io | could it be that xterm doesn't understand the -lc or -en option documented in the manpage?? |
| 22:35.14 | multi_io | $ xterm -lc |
| 22:35.15 | multi_io | xterm: bad command line option "-lc" |
| 22:35.18 | multi_io | wtf? |
| 22:35.22 | chops | starfishy: But as I said, YMMV. |
| 22:35.23 | starfishy | unless your provider messed up the dhcp config |
| 22:35.49 | chops | starfishy: At the same time as he bought a new modem? To me that is doubtful. |
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| 22:35.59 | starfishy | oh, i didnt see that |
| 22:36.03 | chops | mikeb: (Don't you like how we're arguing instead of helping you? :-) |
| 22:36.07 | starfishy | but then, why would it get an IP at all? |
| 22:36.13 | multi_io | how can I start xterm with a different encoding? |
| 22:36.23 | JPA-AR | hola |
| 22:36.25 | mikeb | chops: hehe, as long as i get it fixed :P |
| 22:36.33 | JPA-AR | hi |
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| 22:36.41 | tompos | ad |
| 22:36.42 | tompos | hi |
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| 22:36.50 | starfishy | that the modem swallows half the DHCP sequence is unlikely IMHO |
| 22:36.53 | tompos | I have 2 problems |
| 22:36.55 | chops | starfishy: Why indeed. It is a mystery. |
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| 22:37.12 | starfishy | lets start this pragmatically |
| 22:37.14 | tompos | I cannot find the aar81xx in the kernel config |
| 22:37.18 | tompos | is it in? |
| 22:37.21 | starfishy | mike: how did you start ppp? |
| 22:37.53 | tompos | and how can I install on an easy way a ML150? |
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| 22:41.12 | bleaked | what is the recommened cron application? |
| 22:41.20 | Darien | cron |
| 22:41.24 | bleaked | ok |
| 22:41.29 | stoned | hey, if you have like mild liquid shits, is pepto bismal good for it, or should i use something else |
| 22:41.41 | stoned | cuz all i got right now is pepto |
| 22:41.42 | Darien | cron |
| 22:41.58 | Malagmyr | I logged on to a remote machine with ssh and set the DISPLAY variable to reflect the x-server on this machine (DISPLAY=192.168.1.3:0 && export DISPLAY). Now, when I run xmms on the remote machine, it pops up here. When I run X-Chat, I get "The program 'xchat' received an X Window System error. The error was 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)'." What can I do about this? |
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| 22:42.39 | stoned | Malagmyr: run irssi and have lots of fun |
| 22:42.53 | bleaked | Darien. what user does cron run as? |
| 22:43.00 | stoned | anyone, pepto? |
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| 22:43.22 | mike-e | !repositories |
| 22:43.26 | mike-e | oops |
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| 22:43.28 | stoned | suppositories |
| 22:43.34 | stoned | i wonder |
| 22:43.40 | bleaked | Darien. i would assume cron, however, i have cron on my system, yet no cron username. |
| 22:43.43 | stoned | !suppositories |
| 22:43.51 | Coweater | cron runs as root |
| 22:44.08 | bleaked | hrm. |
| 22:44.10 | Malagmyr | stoned: me no like! |
| 22:44.16 | corrupt | Hi. Does anyone has the usb bluetooth stick "blue fritz"? |
| 22:44.24 | Darien | no |
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| 22:44.35 | corrupt | and a working config |
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| 22:46.18 | stoned | Malagmyr: do ssh -X username@(computer with xchat on it). then once connected, type xchat & and see what it says |
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| 22:46.58 | Siv0x | e |
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| 22:47.12 | stoned | I somehow believe ssh -X to be superior to xdmcp/rdc/vnc etc. |
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| 22:47.17 | xsquared | ok |
| 22:47.25 | Siv0x | ok, whats the program i need to get my sound working again? |
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| 22:47.53 | stoned | Siv0x: su -c alsaconf then enter root pass |
| 22:47.59 | Siv0x | k |
| 22:48.00 | karsten | stoned: Different tool. More transparent, not appropriate if you don't have an X server, or want to clearly isolate X sessions. |
| 22:48.26 | stoned | like I said, I somehow belive this. i don't know why |
| 22:48.27 | stoned | :/ |
| 22:48.48 | karsten | stoned: You're stoned, you would ;-) |
| 22:48.57 | Malagmyr | stoned: (xchat:4124): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 22:49.02 | corrupt | ssh -X -C (for compression) |
| 22:49.04 | stoned | well i figured he was running an Xserver on his client machine |
| 22:49.11 | Malagmyr | stoned: should I still set the DISPLAY variable, maybe? |
| 22:49.12 | stoned | -C only works for ssh1 not ssh2 |
| 22:49.20 | karsten | Malagmyr: echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:49.36 | karsten | stoned: False. |
| 22:49.58 | Malagmyr | karsten: nothing. it's unset when I log on to the remote machine. it doesn't usually run x |
| 22:50.09 | Siv0x | bash: alsaconf: command not found |
| 22:50.10 | karsten | Malagmyr: What's the local value? |
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| 22:50.13 | Siv0x | ;\ |
| 22:50.17 | karsten | Siv0x: Install it. |
| 22:50.21 | stoned | Malagmyr: if you are running Xapplications on remotepc, but want them to show up on localpc, AND given you are runing an Xserver on localpc, use ssh -X remotepc, once logged in, start your X applications |
| 22:50.21 | Siv0x | i already apt-get install alsa |
| 22:50.22 | karsten | !tell Siv0x about search |
| 22:50.28 | karsten | Siv0x: Run as root |
| 22:50.33 | Peacimowen | I'm trying to install latest nvidia drivers. The installer is complaining that my version of gcc (4.0) is different than that used to compile my kernel (3.3). It's telling me to set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler used on the kernel (ie: gcc-3.3). How would I do this? (I don't see a CC variable to set...) |
| 22:50.42 | Malagmyr | karsten: no, locally it's :0.0 |
| 22:50.43 | stoned | Siv0x: apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-tools && alsaconf |
| 22:50.43 | Siv0x | type alsa as root? |
| 22:50.49 | stoned | yes as root |
| 22:51.06 | xsquared | starPeacimowen install the newer gcc or change it in the makefile |
| 22:51.08 | karsten | Malagmyr: You're running 'ssh -X user@remotehost' ? |
| 22:51.17 | Siv0x | k |
| 22:51.21 | xsquared | starfishy: are you here? |
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| 22:51.57 | Peacimowen | xsquared: I have newer gcc, it wants to use older. Also, there is no makefile. |
| 22:51.57 | smarco | is there a place where you can look for unofficial deb-packages? |
| 22:52.00 | Malagmyr | karsten: yep. the display variable stays blank on the remote host |
| 22:52.01 | stoned | Peacimowen: on bash type: " CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.5 && export CC " then proceed to compiling |
| 22:52.16 | stoned | Peacimowen: apt-get install gcc-3.5 |
| 22:52.20 | adioe5 | hi all, say how do I install the nVidia driver on a Debian Sarge amd64 system ??? |
| 22:52.23 | karsten | Malagmyr: Remote host is denying X11 forwarding. |
| 22:52.25 | Peacimowen | stoned: Thanks. Will try. |
| 22:52.33 | karsten | Malagmyr: less /etc/ssh/sshd_config on remotehost. |
| 22:52.33 | ke6isf | !tell adioe5 -about nvidia |
| 22:52.34 | smarco | im a little worried about all these warnings about "untrusted sources". there are tons of em. is this cause im using debian unstable? |
| 22:52.43 | Ronin | smarco: /topic |
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| 22:52.47 | ke6isf | !apt-secure |
| 22:52.47 | dpkg | [apt secure] in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key> |
| 22:52.48 | karsten | smarco: /topic |
| 22:52.57 | Malagmyr | karsten: xmms runs fine, though, once I set the display variable to 192.168.1.3:0 (this machine) |
| 22:53.02 | Siv0x | stoned, i have alsaconf config'd |
| 22:53.03 | smarco | alright thanks |
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| 22:53.07 | Siv0x | how do i adjust my sound? |
| 22:53.23 | Malagmyr | karsten: mozilla-thunderbird and xchat and such (what I really want to run there) does not, however |
| 22:53.33 | adioe5 | ke6isf: I know that, but the thing is the 'Debian Way' doesn |
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| 22:53.38 | adioe5 | 't work |
| 22:53.44 | adioe5 | on x86_64 machines |
| 22:53.44 | ke6isf | !doesn't work |
| 22:53.45 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 22:53.54 | karsten | Malagmyr: That's not forwarding over SSH, that's forwarding over TCPIP. Which you shouldn't be doing. |
| 22:53.59 | stoned | Siv0x: in order to have sound working, you must configure alsa, which you just did. now you must add your useraccount to the audio and the video groups. then you must totally log out of the system, and log back in, then you must install a mixer application and adjust your volume levels |
| 22:54.17 | stoned | karsten: thats what i was trying to tell him in the first place, mr. smarty panties |
| 22:54.30 | Siv0x | ok, to adjust my volume levels, i type alsa as root right? |
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| 22:54.47 | ke6isf | Siv0x: No, you follow stoned's directions. |
| 22:54.52 | stoned | Siv0x: type as root: apt-get install alsamixergui |
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| 22:55.09 | Malagmyr | karsten: why not? I'm the single user on both machines, and I've use iptables to allow access to port 6000 on this machine only from the local ip of that other machine. should be relatively secure, I think |
| 22:55.28 | smiler1987 | i no this is really simple how can i edit a txt file throw konsole what program / comand do i use? |
| 22:55.32 | ke6isf | Interesting, I didn't have alsamixergui installed. |
| 22:55.44 | Peete | hum all geeks, of course (a) |
| 22:55.46 | Siv0x | ok, its installing |
| 22:55.56 | stoned | ke6isf: you don't really need it, alsa comes with a console based mixer app |
| 22:55.58 | Ronin | smiler1987: depends on the editor but basically nano foo if your in the directory |
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| 22:56.11 | karsten | Malagmyr: Google is your friend, I don't have time to explain. |
| 22:56.16 | KerPlunk | Siv0x: no, type alsamixer as non-root |
| 22:56.20 | Ronin | assuming of course nano is installed |
| 22:56.23 | karsten | stoned: Yeah, yeah, I got in late. |
| 22:56.23 | ke6isf | stoned: Ah, OK; though I do work in X typically. |
| 22:56.30 | stoned | another interesting link, support syntax highlighting in nano. www.dotfiles.org or google for dotfiles |
| 22:56.35 | Malagmyr | karsten: okay, fine. i'll use ssh then. what do I need to change in my sshd config? |
| 22:56.45 | Peete | Hi all |
| 22:56.52 | karsten | Malagmyr: An editor and root access remotely. |
| 22:56.57 | Siv0x | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 22:57.13 | Malagmyr | karsten: X11Forwarding yes, instead of no, then? |
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| 22:57.18 | Siv0x | that means i gotta logout and log back in as stoned said |
| 22:57.24 | stoned | Malagmyr: in your sshd_config X11Fowarding Yes |
| 22:57.35 | Malagmyr | done |
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| 22:57.49 | stoned | Malagmyr: then do ssh -X user@host |
| 22:57.51 | Siv0x | stoned, how do i add my user account to the audio and video groups? |
| 22:58.03 | stoned | Siv0x: total newb eh |
| 22:58.04 | stoned | hehe |
| 22:58.14 | ke6isf | !groups |
| 22:58.17 | ke6isf | !group |
| 22:58.17 | dpkg | adduser <USER> <GROUP>; read the adduser man page. |
| 22:58.18 | Siv0x | :( |
| 22:58.21 | stoned | if i told you i'd be spoondfeeding you |
| 22:58.31 | Siv0x | i used to know |
| 22:58.34 | Siv0x | i just forget |
| 22:58.34 | stoned | you should google add users to groups linux etc |
| 22:58.35 | Siv0x | sec |
| 22:58.44 | Malagmyr | stoned: the DISPLAY variable is still blank after logging in, and xchat still says it can't find display: |
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| 22:59.07 | corrupt | restart sshd |
| 22:59.24 | stoned | Malagmyr: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 22:59.37 | stoned | you must restart a service if you modify its config |
| 22:59.38 | Siv0x | k, done ;\ |
| 22:59.55 | stoned | Siv0x: now you must fully log out of the system, meaning you can't be logged in at all |
| 23:00.00 | dan321 | I am looking for a tool to draw a tree (a computer science tree not a plant). I want to put a bit of text in each node. I could use a vector drawing package but I wonder if anyone here knows of nay utilities that would do this for me? |
| 23:00.02 | Malagmyr | stoned: I did :( |
| 23:00.22 | vimmer | hmmm my homepage in firefox is set to: http://www.debian.org/security/faq. A while ago suddenly firefox stopped working (in taskbar firefox was loading for a while and then it closed). Now firefox started working and what i saw was http://www.debian.org/security/faq filled with strange symbols (now it's not working at all). |
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| 23:00.25 | dan321 | oops s/nay/any |
| 23:00.34 | vimmer | was debian.org hacked or what? |
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| 23:00.40 | Siv0x | k |
| 23:00.42 | Azar | dan321: I would use plain OpenOffice spreadsheet |
| 23:00.54 | Ronin | vimmer: not likely why? |
| 23:01.18 | Siv0x | thx stoned, :D |
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| 23:01.31 | vimmer | some weird symbols on http://www.debian.org/security/faq just while ago |
| 23:01.39 | vimmer | and now it's not working |
| 23:01.42 | dan321 | Azar: How would that work? |
| 23:01.50 | Azar | dan321: I drawed my own custom bed for a special order with the spreadsheet |
| 23:02.17 | Azar | dan321: the spreadsheet has adjstable grid, and you can use colors too, as well as text |
| 23:02.38 | Azar | dan321: that is if you know how to handle a spreadsheet |
| 23:02.53 | stoned | Malagmyr: basically to get X working over ssh. you must run an Xserver on the machine you want applications showing up on. You must enable X11Fowarding in sshd. restart ssh. log in wish ssh -X user@host. You might have to UNSET/RESET your $DISPLAY |
| 23:02.59 | Azar | OpenOffice.org Math |
| 23:03.16 | vin` | vimmer: you're not seeing things right? ;) |
| 23:03.25 | vimmer | noo really |
| 23:03.40 | vimmer | that was really weird anyway |
| 23:03.57 | vimmer | anybody can confirm that http://www.debian.org/security/faq is empty now ? |
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| 23:04.16 | stoned | Malagmyr: DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 && export DISPLAY | try this. |
| 23:04.19 | ansong | vimmer, i just went there. it's normal |
| 23:04.29 | vimmer | O_o |
| 23:04.39 | Azar | dan321: or OpenOffice.org Draw |
| 23:04.50 | vin` | â„¢ |
| 23:04.54 | embrik | Could not read network connection list. //.DCOP |
| 23:04.55 | embrik | server_ltspserver03.intern.ltsp251_0 |
| 23:04.56 | stoned | Malagmyr: do this display setting on the pc that is going to run xchat/xapps |
| 23:05.01 | embrik | sorry |
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| 23:05.22 | ansong | vimmer, is firefox open now? |
| 23:05.28 | vimmer | yes |
| 23:05.29 | embrik | Got this message after installing a new sarge server in a woody environment : Could not read network connection list. //.DCOP |
| 23:05.29 | embrik | server_ltspserver03.intern.ltsp251_0 |
| 23:05.45 | ansong | vimmer, will other pages show up? |
| 23:05.51 | embrik | any suggestions? |
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| 23:06.02 | vimmer | when i write www.debian.org in firefox i get alert: The file / cannot be found. Please check the location and try again. |
| 23:06.12 | vimmer | yes apart debian org |
| 23:06.33 | vimmer | http://www.us.debian.org/ works fine however |
| 23:06.47 | adioe3 | anybody: Is there a 64bit version of OpenOffice.org? |
| 23:06.49 | vimmer | weeeeird, it makes me crazy |
| 23:07.06 | dan321 | Azar: I can kind of see what you mean with the spreadsheet idea, just merge cells and centre. |
| 23:07.07 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/ |
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| 23:07.12 | ansong | vimmer, um, have you cleared the cache, etc? |
| 23:07.35 | dan321 | Azar: The OpenOffice.org Draw comment has confused me again though? |
| 23:07.55 | Azar | dan321: there is a possibility to use draw then export it to a OpenOffice.org Writer |
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| 23:08.08 | embrik | Got this message after installing a new sarge server in a woody environment : Could not read network connection list. //.DCOP |
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| 23:08.19 | Azar | dan321: the spreadsheet is OpenOffice.org Calc |
| 23:08.24 | vimmer | uhh that's it right |
| 23:08.33 | vimmer | anyway sooo strange |
| 23:08.58 | vimmer | and also my psi profile doesn't load |
| 23:08.58 | eegore | this is a royal pain. setting up print services in testing |
| 23:09.04 | vimmer | creepy |
| 23:09.26 | Azar | vimmer, I guess is enough we got it |
| 23:09.27 | eegore | I have a Direct jet print server and I can't get it working |
| 23:09.44 | vimmer | what logs should i check to see if my system wasn't compromised ? |
| 23:09.51 | Azar | eeyore-: it might have windows drivers |
| 23:10.11 | ansong | eegore, setting it up as a desktop system? |
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| 23:11.06 | Azar | eeyore-: I was reading online the other day, most printers don't have their own chips, rather they rely on windows OS CPUs |
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| 23:11.19 | vin` | vimmer: /var/log/auth.log , rkhunter, chkrootkit |
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| 23:11.25 | vimmer | thx |
| 23:11.53 | vin` | vimmer: there are many more, read harden docs. |
| 23:12.09 | eegore | I share the print with three other systems and I have always had issues getting Debian to play nice with it everytime I do a new install |
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| 23:13.34 | iostream | Hi.. My CPU FAN just stopped.. How can I turn it back on? :) |
| 23:13.51 | Matt-H | iostream: replace the fan? |
| 23:14.02 | eegore | what is the port for the cups web interface |
| 23:14.02 | stoned | oh man, classes start tomorrow |
| 23:14.05 | eegore | forgot |
| 23:14.06 | iostream | Matt-H: The fan is not the problem. |
| 23:14.06 | tompos | .c |
| 23:14.11 | stoned | ooh biology, fun stuff |
| 23:14.11 | ansong | eegore, 631 |
| 23:14.13 | Azar | iostream detach it, blow the dust off of it and use a bit of oil |
| 23:14.23 | eegore | I new there was a 31 in it |
| 23:14.34 | iostream | Matt-H: The fane works fine, sometimes it just stops.. and then you have to give it a little spin in the opposite direction to get it going again.. |
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| 23:14.56 | Matt-H | iostream: yes.. that's still the fan |
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| 23:15.27 | iostream | Matt-H: Hmm, okay, is there no way to power it up again.. It's at 0RPM now.... |
| 23:15.44 | Matt-H | iostream: it's safer to just replace it with one that doesn't stop for no reason |
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| 23:16.00 | eegore | Now I feel like a total idiot |
| 23:16.09 | iostream | Matt-H: True true, I will do that, but is there anything I can do in the meantime? Some command to get it running again? |
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| 23:16.24 | eegore | I was trying to send print request to my proxy server |
| 23:16.27 | Matt-H | iostream: it's hardware, not software, so commands won't do anything to it |
| 23:16.31 | Azar | :D |
| 23:16.35 | Reilithion | is there a way to force an application to close a file without killing it? |
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| 23:16.40 | ansong | iostream, go into your bios and make sure that there's not a fan control option that is set to something like "smartfan control" or something idiotic like that |
| 23:16.44 | tom__ | quit |
| 23:16.52 | iostream | ansong: It's allready disabled.. |
| 23:16.52 | Azar | hehe : fan --force |
| 23:17.08 | iostream | Azar: Yes please :) |
| 23:17.10 | ansong | iostream, um, flash your bios? |
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| 23:17.42 | iostream | ansong: That's hard to do on a remote machine ;) |
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| 23:18.11 | ansong | iostream, try a new fan. it's cheaper than a cpu |
| 23:18.40 | Reilithion | nautilus is preventing me from ejecting a CD. I'd like to force it to close /dev/cdrom without killing it |
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| 23:18.46 | Reilithion | how can I do that? |
| 23:18.49 | Siv0x | if i have an nvidia geforce 8600 whats the apt-get command to install the nvidia drivers? |
| 23:18.50 | iostream | ansong: Yep, yep, a new fan is on its way.. But in the meantime? :) There must be some tools to manipulate the fan speed, so I can set it to 0 and then try to power it up again? |
| 23:19.07 | Azar | iostream, apt-get open box remove fan order new fan install new fan restart |
| 23:19.11 | ansong | Reilithion, can't you just eject /dev/cdrom ? |
| 23:19.20 | iostream | Azar: :D |
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| 23:19.36 | Reilithion | ansong: it says "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" |
| 23:19.41 | eegore | is that a 6800? |
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| 23:20.08 | eegore | nvidia install |
| 23:20.08 | ansong | Reilithion, try using the mount point as the argument instead of the device |
| 23:20.18 | Siv0x | ? |
| 23:20.21 | Reilithion | ansong, it's not mounted |
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| 23:20.31 | eegore | dpkg: give him the nvidia mantra |
| 23:20.32 | dpkg | give him the nvidia mantra |
| 23:20.34 | Azar | !nvidia one liner |
| 23:20.34 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 23:20.38 | iostream | So, no fan control utilities exist?.. I know the 'right' solution to this, but in the meantime, it would be nice to get the fan going again... |
| 23:20.45 | Siv0x | k |
| 23:20.46 | Siv0x | thx |
| 23:21.12 | vin` | iostream: what laptop? |
| 23:21.15 | Azar | iostream if your fan is full of dust, or rusty there are no software utilities to clean it or replace it |
| 23:21.21 | eegore | It may not work fully with the 7800 |
| 23:21.32 | iostream | vin`: It's a server. |
| 23:21.38 | ansong | Reilithion, try with the -v option see if the error is more verbose |
| 23:21.46 | Matt-H | iostream: fans do clog up and break |
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| 23:21.50 | Azar | iostream get in the car and go to that server and fix it |
| 23:22.02 | vin` | iostream: acpi? |
| 23:22.07 | iostream | Azar: The fan is clean, I inspected it an hour a go... But I though it was the stupid BIOS setting causing it to shut down.. So I only changed that, and it appeared to work.. but no longer.. |
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| 23:22.24 | iostream | Azar: Been there, done that. |
| 23:22.35 | Azar | iostream same shit: get in the car and fix bios, check the box.. replace fan |
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| 23:22.47 | Siv0x | my sound still isn't working ;\ |
| 23:22.55 | Reilithion | ansong, it looks like it tried to eject /dev/hdc using CD-ROM eject command, then the SCSI command, then the floppy command, then the tape offline command, then it gave up |
| 23:23.15 | iostream | Azar: Yes, yes, I get it :) |
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| 23:23.23 | Reilithion | ansong, /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hdc |
| 23:23.24 | eegore | Is there a file that I can adjust the printout in?? |
| 23:23.26 | Azar | iostream, who knows maybe you get "wrong" signals |
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| 23:23.34 | zeballin3 | Camera problem. I set camera (Sony) to PTP. I installed KDE's Kamera. When I plug in camera I get camera icon on screen, it will open in Kong, but no folders/files are shown. Help. |
| 23:23.58 | iostream | Azar: What do you mean wrong signals? Wrong voltage? |
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| 23:24.27 | Azar | iostream I understand you check it remotely, maybe what you see is wrong, while when you get there it might be ok |
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| 23:24.45 | ansong | Reilithion, that shouldn't matter. |
| 23:25.02 | Azar | get a lappy and check it while you are near that box |
| 23:25.03 | iostream | Azar: No, sensors is reporting the correct values, I checked that when I was at the site. Both RPM and temp is correct (or very close to)... |
| 23:25.20 | Azar | iostream: never trust nothing |
| 23:25.31 | Reilithion | ansong, I see. in any case, it tried those 4 methods, failed each time, and then decided to give up and tell me I had an invalid argument |
| 23:25.45 | eegore | Is it my imaginination or has gnome in etch integrated the Ximian desktop? |
| 23:25.54 | iostream | Azar: What do you mean? The values were correct when i checked them... So why should they not be okay now? |
| 23:26.38 | Azar | iostream, the way you put it: you checked the box, it was ok, now remotely "shows" problems what do you think? |
| 23:26.51 | iostream | Azar: No, let me explain again. :) |
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| 23:27.42 | ansong | Reilithion, i'm sure you could eject it if the system was rebooted. press eject during the post process. or turn it off and use a paper clip |
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| 23:27.57 | Aghaster | quick question: is there any good book about the latest version of debian? |
| 23:28.22 | Reilithion | ansong, I'm sure I could, too. I'd much rather try to force nautilus to close /dev/hdc insead. Is there an easy way to do this? |
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| 23:28.38 | iostream | Azar: Box reportes RPM = 0, Temp = High. BIOS says temp is high toi, FAN is not running (I can see that...). I turn of some stupid fan control shit in BIOS, boots system. Fan & TEMP stay ok for 30min. I figure, problem solved, packs up and leaves :) Then 2 hrs later, fan RPM drops to 0. |
| 23:28.58 | Azar | iostream I had a friend who made a box for me, for three weeks the hardware kept crashing, and he was like wtf? I bought brand new mobo and stuff, after 3 weeks he found out he was having power fluctuations in his home... you figure |
| 23:28.59 | ansong | Reilithion, not that i know of... |
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| 23:29.22 | ansong | iostream, are you getting paid to support this? |
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| 23:29.22 | abrotman | Aghaster: i believe debian.org links to a page with a list of books |
| 23:29.31 | Aghaster | thanks |
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| 23:29.45 | Reilithion | How can I force a running process to close a file that it has open? Anyone? |
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| 23:29.47 | iostream | ansong: Why, but no.. It's just some crap server running some non-important stuff. |
| 23:29.48 | abrotman | Aghaster: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/books |
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| 23:29.52 | Aghaster | i'm not a linux newbie, but i'd like to know more in order to feel more comfortable |
| 23:29.53 | eegore | Has anyone ever worked with Mythtv and MySQL? |
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| 23:30.10 | eegore | I have never worked with either before |
| 23:30.37 | raf256 | omfg |
| 23:30.45 | raf256 | what the fuck is up with debian.org page man? |
| 23:30.49 | eegore | raf256: what? |
| 23:30.51 | raf256 | it is down for like 2 weeks |
| 23:31.02 | raf256 | packages page |
| 23:31.16 | Azar | is been only 4 days raf256 |
| 23:31.17 | abrotman | raf256: read your DWN |
| 23:31.18 | Reilithion | raf256, topic |
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| 23:31.37 | raf256 | hmm, time *is* passing slower while one is bussy |
| 23:31.53 | abrotman | Reilithion: what's in the topic ? |
| 23:31.57 | vimmer | is there a log that shows which files were deleted ? |
| 23:32.08 | iostream | Azar: I will investigate further and perhaps get a new FAN (if the other one is broken..) It looked fine an hour ago.. Right now I just want to know if I can do some dirty hack and get the fan running :) |
| 23:32.19 | Ronin | abrotman: lots of stuff but unless my eyes are worse then i think nothing about package.debian.org |
| 23:32.27 | Azar | iostream, check the power on that building/room as well |
| 23:32.27 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:32.35 | Aghaster | http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ this looks quite complete, thanks. |
| 23:32.48 | Reilithion | raf256, abrotman, nvmnd. I thought he was talking about the new pubkey |
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| 23:33.11 | iostream | Azar: Okay |
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| 23:33.17 | mndor | hi |
| 23:33.18 | Azar | raf256: strange I keep busy all day and I seem not have the time I need to do all the stuff..time passes fast for me |
| 23:33.33 | Snake-Eyes | is it safe to mount /tmp -noexec ? |
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| 23:34.31 | mndor | i installed CIV3 for Linux.. if i execute the bin.. i get always a "BUG! (Segmentation Fault) Going down hard..." |
| 23:34.35 | prodope_ | i'm getting this error when i'm updating my system (w/ apt): unable to install `/etc/services.dpkg-new' as `/etc/services': Operation not permitted |
| 23:34.35 | raf256 | s/devels/admins |
| 23:34.48 | prodope_ | do i have to change permission on /etc/services ? |
| 23:34.59 | mndor | just helm me.. i paid 30€ for it.. |
| 23:35.00 | raf256 | i though such big project as debian can bet free hardware and stuff like kernel.org to handle even huge bandwitch |
| 23:35.01 | Azar | prodope_: you have to have root or at least su |
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| 23:35.27 | prodope_ | Azar: i'm running it with sudo, so it should have superuser priveleges |
| 23:35.31 | raf256 | mndor: I dunno but why not contact the distributor |
| 23:35.36 | matadon | Snake-Eyes: It should be, yes. |
| 23:35.41 | Azar | prodope_: then the system, does not allow that move |
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| 23:36.32 | DaDave | is there a way to automaticly hibernate or suspend my notebook when battery is low? |
| 23:36.39 | nima | !eo |
| 23:37.09 | smarco | DaDave, i can configure that in the bios of mine |
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| 23:37.22 | Azar | DaDave: I think you can have that option in BIOS and modconf also has a module for such feature |
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| 23:37.56 | DaDave | okay |
| 23:37.58 | ansong | how can i tell what process is holding /proc/acpi/event ? |
| 23:38.18 | Shadowcat | ansong: are you running unstable? |
| 23:38.29 | prodope_ | Azar: how would i make it able to? i remember having this problem before about a year ago, but i forget which command i used for its permissions... it wasn't chmod |
| 23:38.52 | Azar | prodope_: what are you trying to install? |
| 23:39.15 | prodope_ | prodope_: an update for the netbase package |
| 23:39.17 | ansong | Shad0wcat, yes |
| 23:39.28 | Shadowcat | ansong: XOrg |
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| 23:39.59 | iostream | Azar: If the /proc/acpi/fan is empty, what does it mean? That no control is possible? :) |
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| 23:40.06 | dvm1981 | My fan on my laptop (Compaq Armada 1750)have also some troubles with the fan. |
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| 23:40.15 | Azar | prodope_: it depends if your Debian version and your kernel version allow that move... if you run Sarge you might have limits on what packages you are ok to install/run |
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| 23:40.52 | ansong | Shadowcat, i'll try killing it. thanks |
| 23:40.56 | Azar | iostream that means that the fan is "gone" and there is no device to manipulate |
| 23:41.27 | iostream | Azar: Erhh.. "Gone"? .. |
| 23:41.30 | dvm1981 | Some times it shutdown for a raison that i don't know, but i have remark that whe i put the power suplier out (on batterie) and put it again after 5 minutesm, the fan runs again and the temp goes down |
| 23:41.45 | Azar | iostream, at least gone from your radar |
| 23:41.50 | iostream | Azar: Oh well, well, anyways, many thanks for your help. I have a look at in the morning :) |
| 23:42.23 | Azar | iostream If I were you Id just go now, who knows how is the CPU gonna hold |
| 23:42.31 | dvm1981 | But that is not a thing that i would like to test, because 5 minutes the temp goes to hot and i would not to experiment this and blow up my CPY |
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| 23:43.09 | dvm1981 | If i do that to many times, i blow the CPU or the batterie. |
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| 23:43.30 | dvm1981 | Someone know some hacks to turn my fan on again ? |
| 23:43.47 | Azar | dvm1981: blow on it? |
| 23:43.49 | nima | restart your computer? |
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| 23:44.17 | iostream | Azar: Yes, I know its stupid.. but it has been like this for a month, and the owner doesnt care that much, and I have lowered the frequency of the CPU, and right now it's 61C, so I think it will be okay.. But yes, I know.. Stupid stupid. |
| 23:44.39 | iostream | Azar: Stable at 61-63C, I should say. |
| 23:45.02 | Azar | iostream: if is an old machine this is a good time and good reason to get a new one: even cheaper |
| 23:45.02 | dvm1981 | Azar, yes there is a little space where i can blow to my CPU so that temp goes down. Think you that there are an onther person that does that ? ;-) |
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| 23:45.27 | Azar | dvm1981: what other person? |
| 23:45.33 | iostream | Azar: Maybe.. |
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| 23:45.39 | newjunk_ | anyone know a good kernel guide for debian? |
| 23:45.45 | dvm1981 | Azar: The FAN of the CPU stop turning some time, in dont know why |
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| 23:46.18 | dvm1981 | Azar: blow |
| 23:46.19 | solomonn | has debian completely removed xdmcp support from its gdm package? |
| 23:46.24 | Azar | dvm1981: shut down the box, unplug it, make sure you not gonna fry your mobo, detach the fan and blow the dust, use a tiny bit of oil, reattach , start and pray |
| 23:46.28 | solomonn | or has it be split out somewhere that i can't find or something? |
| 23:46.29 | dvm1981 | Azar: in french -> souffler |
| 23:46.46 | Azar | j'aime soufle |
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| 23:47.15 | dvm1981 | Azar: hhhmmm, yes, i do it today (after sleeping a bit) |
| 23:47.47 | dvm1981 | Azar: Is there no stuff to control the speed, on, off of the fan ? |
| 23:47.56 | anapivirtua | good night all people (amsg, but you can say: good night anapivirtua if you want xD) |
| 23:48.11 | Azar | dvm1981: it might be but I am new at linux, I am not aware of "goodies" yet |
| 23:48.28 | Azar | google for "utilities tools for linux" |
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| 23:48.34 | NightVision | does debian work that well on a powerbook? |
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| 23:48.59 | smarco | which is the biggest debian forum on the web? |
| 23:49.12 | dvm1981 | Azar: I understand, but your trick, i goes do it today, so i look once the state of it, but i think not that that is the problem. |
| 23:49.21 | nima | iv tried ubuntu on my schools apple laptops, it worked really well, NightVision |
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| 23:49.32 | nima | not powerbooks, though |
| 23:49.41 | illume | anyone here use software suspend with nvidia drivers? |
| 23:49.57 | nima | nope |
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| 23:50.23 | dvm1981 | Azar: I have read some information about my stupid bugy BIOS, an old laptop with some troubles ... |
| 23:50.25 | NightVision | hmm |
| 23:50.35 | nima | it was an ubuntu livecd that i tried, NightVision |
| 23:51.04 | NightVision | im thinking about getting a powerbook once the macbooks drive tha g4s price down |
| 23:51.10 | raf256 | ubuntu's live cd sucks |
| 23:51.11 | dvm1981 | Azar: Like i have not money to buy another, i must be use these and really would like to solve this problem |
| 23:51.18 | raf256 | knoppix boots x5 faster and seems more usable |
| 23:51.22 | nima | raf256, i dont mind them |
| 23:51.24 | NightVision | fscking ati chipset in my curent laptop |
| 23:51.32 | nima | i like gnome :-) |
| 23:51.59 | eegore | I need to set up the initial database, is there a template I can use? |
| 23:52.05 | dvm1981 | Someone know some stuff to control the FAN that goes stop running for an unknow reason? |
| 23:52.06 | starfishy | nightvision: i hear you |
| 23:52.15 | Malagmyr | I hate the name MacBook. It sounds somewhat harsh. Doesn't roll off the tongue like iBook or PowerBook. |
| 23:52.17 | starfishy | i got a sony with a Radeon M7 |
| 23:52.19 | starfishy | terrible |
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| 23:53.34 | NightVision | powerbooks are just so.....sexy |
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| 23:56.15 | dserban | Is there a good explanation on how devices are "detected" if hotplug conflicts with udev? |
| 23:56.29 | Shadowcat | in Sarge? |
| 23:56.34 | Shadowcat | they're detected twice |
| 23:56.36 | dserban | Shadowcat: nah, in sid. |
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| 23:56.48 | Shadowcat | dserban: there is no hotplug in sid |
| 23:56.57 | dserban | ie, if I want to install udev, hotplug's removed. But will udev detect my devices? |
| 23:57.23 | Shadowcat | dserban: go read the changelog |
| 23:57.24 | dserban | Shadowcat: yeah, err there is (well on my current box there is and I just recently dist-upgraded) |
| 23:57.26 | Shadowcat | that's what it's for |
| 23:57.34 | dserban | Shadowcat: thanks, for what package? |
| 23:57.39 | Shadowcat | what do you think |
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| 23:58.22 | dserban | ... must be a greycat in disguise :P. Alright, it just wasn't too obvious imo. |
| 23:58.33 | abrotman | gravity: when ender sent me that email about my bug .. did he mean that the i810 driver was rewritten for 6.8.2 or for 6.9/7? |
| 23:58.37 | smarco | can i simply copy my fresh debian install to my laptop and it will work? |
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| 23:59.00 | Shadowcat | dserban: no, but I'm sick of people running sid who can't read the documentation out there |
