| 00:00.00 | blondie|dead | if you say so |
| 00:00.05 | tarzeau | blondie|dead: microsoft windows isn't popular because it's a great operating system |
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| 00:00.12 | valdyn | jurka: ( if you find nothing when googling that is... ) |
| 00:00.49 | blondie|dead | tarzeau: fine, but FF *is* good. |
| 00:01.02 | blondie|dead | anyway EOF |
| 00:01.07 | tarzeau | blondie|dead: it has quite a few ugly quirks |
| 00:01.20 | jurka | valdyn: OK, thanks for all your patience. |
| 00:01.23 | valdyn | jurka: lspci | grep audio ( if that yields nothing, run update-pciids and try again ) |
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| 00:02.31 | tarzeau | blondie|dead: a browser never has to crash on me, no matter what. software shouldn't ever update itself, and never annoy me if it can't update itself |
| 00:02.44 | tarzeau | blondie|dead: oh and why does it not run on gnu/kfreebsd? |
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| 00:03.02 | thingfish | any time I've had random hangs and crashes, it's been hardware. |
| 00:03.11 | tarzeau | thingfish: not so here |
| 00:03.15 | Tony_Sidaway | I use firefox because (unlike galeon, its predecessor on my desktop) I can download and run it without first installing Mozilla browser. It doesn't crash much and, except with websites that are achingly slow, it doesn't have performance problems. |
| 00:03.20 | tarzeau | thingfish: often software has just bugs |
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| 00:03.36 | sonyman | tas--, I have a couple more printers in the list now, but I'm looking to be able to select the exact model. Its only listing 2 HP printers in the right pane in the printing manager |
| 00:03.38 | thingfish | tarzeau: yes, well you probably are a debian sid user. |
| 00:03.44 | tarzeau | thingfish: and this firefox crashed on me on a few computers, besides its unusable remotely |
| 00:03.58 | Omnix | I'm trying to create a service for inetd (in Perl) that needs the remote host which it's connected to, any idea how I can get this? |
| 00:04.00 | tarzeau | thingfish: i use the binary released firefox. yes i use sid and experimental as well as stable |
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| 00:04.12 | blondie|dead | "works for me" |
| 00:04.12 | sfullenwider | Does anyone who uses linux have a webhosting service they can recommend? |
| 00:04.30 | thingfish | I use sarge becuase I decided a while back that I don't much care for bugs. |
| 00:04.36 | Tony_Sidaway | I've always used Debian stable until recently (switched to Ubuntu on my laptop the other day) but Firefox does sometimes crash unexpectedly. |
| 00:04.38 | thingfish | *because' |
| 00:04.40 | thingfish | aack |
| 00:04.46 | thingfish | *because |
| 00:04.59 | tarzeau | thingfish: nor new software |
| 00:05.15 | cheal | Tony_Sidaway: that's most likely due to an extension or a plugin |
| 00:05.24 | Khisanth | sfullenwider: dreamhost is pretty nice |
| 00:05.27 | thingfish | tarzeau: well, yes, you're quite right: I don't really care so much about the latest software. |
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| 00:05.33 | thingfish | I want what works. |
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| 00:06.03 | tarzeau | thingfish: i didn't say latest, i said new software |
| 00:06.07 | tarzeau | thingfish: this is not the same |
| 00:06.10 | thingfish | oh |
| 00:06.16 | sfullenwider | Dot5hosting has screwed me and I need to switch |
| 00:06.17 | Tony_Sidaway | cheal, I suspect so. I had to abandon chatzilla because it seemed to have a memory leak. |
| 00:06.17 | tarzeau | thingfish: with sarge you don't get new things that work |
| 00:06.37 | Durin | sonyman: have you installed foomatic-filters-ppds |
| 00:06.42 | thingfish | well you don't get many new things period with sarge. |
| 00:06.54 | Tony_Sidaway | New things are greatly overrated. |
| 00:07.02 | tarzeau | Tony_Sidaway: i disagree |
| 00:07.09 | dondelelcaro | sfullenwider: dreamhost is what I use too; although, they have changed since the days when I knew the people who owned it. |
| 00:07.13 | tarzeau | Tony_Sidaway: new things are not necessarily new, just new to debian |
| 00:07.32 | tarzeau | Tony_Sidaway: and some software just plain sucks (chatzilla one of it) |
| 00:07.34 | Tony_Sidaway | I'm running loads of good stuff on sarge on my server. It's rock solid and I like it that way. |
| 00:07.44 | sonyman | Durin, I just installed it. Let me see if its fixed... |
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| 00:08.19 | sfullenwider | Do you guys use pop and smtp with them? Dot5hosting refuses to fix my account. It won't let anything other than ms outlook to use their email server |
| 00:08.20 | dondelelcaro | my only reservation about them is that they don't have postgresql yet. |
| 00:08.23 | thingfish | I grew up with suse, redhat, and fedora. No more bugs for me, thank you. Take a year, iron them out, then I'll install it. |
| 00:09.01 | dondelelcaro | sfullenwider: my clients do; they just do imap... usually you use your ISP to do smtp (but they may do smtp auth, never bothered to find out) |
| 00:09.04 | Tony_Sidaway | sfullenwider, for email I recommend either bluebottle or gmail. You get free pop, imap and smtp. |
| 00:09.10 | thingfish | some people like chasing bugs, however - and more power to them, I say. It's just not for me anymore. |
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| 00:09.38 | sfullenwider | I want to park some web space...I always end up needing it and it comes in handy in weird ways sometimes. |
| 00:09.39 | Tony_Sidaway | gmail's spam filtering is pretty good. |
| 00:09.55 | zinx | gmail's spam filtering frequently marks bugtraq emails as spam |
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| 00:10.10 | Tony_Sidaway | bluebottle supports a challenge-response spam filtering mechanism, or a keyword-based one. |
| 00:10.48 | dondelelcaro | ugh. CRM is almost always implemented as crappily as possible. |
| 00:10.48 | Tony_Sidaway | zinx, I think it's adaptive so if you say "this isn't spam" you're less likely to get the stuff wrongly spam-binned in future. |
| 00:11.11 | sonyman | Durin, I got it to list the printers, but couldn't add it. So I tried administrator mode---now the printer list is empty |
| 00:11.22 | zinx | Tony_Sidaway: oh, yeah, it's gotten better about it, but it still occasionally does it |
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| 00:12.08 | Tony_Sidaway | zinx, bluebottle is good, but it's more instrusive and it doesn't really work with mailing lists unless you are careful to whitelist all relevant addresses. |
| 00:12.33 | Tony_Sidaway | I find it useful for posting publicly usable addresses for people to contact me randomly. |
| 00:12.36 | sonyman | Durin, the list of drivers doesn't appear in administrator mode |
| 00:12.38 | Durin | sonyman: i think you have to restart cupsys |
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| 00:12.40 | sfullenwider | their top5's pop server refuses to auth me, their smtp server refuses to let me send mail to any addresses outside of my domain, unless I'm in outlook for some reason that I just can't figure out. |
| 00:15.03 | sonyman | Durin, I managed to add it in user mode, but why wouldn't it work in administrator mode, with root access? |
| 00:15.10 | stew | sfullenwider: i can't imagine how a pop server would know what client you are using |
| 00:16.13 | sfullenwider | stew: The problem is, that it will not auth me, even if I telnet into it and type POP3 commands myself it will not auth me, they have a "loader" for ms outlook and refuse to test it on anything that requires typing in stuff |
| 00:16.26 | Durin | sonyman: no idea - i normally use the web interface http://<host>:631/ |
| 00:16.58 | sfullenwider | There must be some opinion that I don't know about, but with their attitude I decided that if I switched to something that some linux guys use then at least I'd have someone who knew what the hell they are doing to talk to if I get screwed again |
| 00:17.03 | sonyman | Durin, thats a nice interface! |
| 00:17.06 | stew | sfullenwider: sniff the connection while outook auth's and see what its doing differently |
| 00:18.07 | sfullenwider | stew: lack that know-how, (or windows) to do it. They "say" the've tested my acount with outlook and have a .bin file to configure outlook but that's not doing me any good if they refuse to go further than that |
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| 00:18.54 | SimonRaven | sfullenwider: sounds like they're incompetent :P |
| 00:19.22 | sfullenwider | YOU HAVE TO USE THE ENTIRE EMAIL ADDRESS AS THE USERNAME! |
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| 00:20.16 | wang | anyone want to help me tackle a network printing problem? |
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| 00:21.01 | sfullenwider | Now, to figure out how to get balsa to send the whole email address as the username. |
| 00:21.10 | takeshipwnedyou | hey,what command to i put in a shell script to make it run as root when executed? |
| 00:21.22 | Robi- | sudo |
| 00:21.25 | Robi- | or fakeroot |
| 00:21.52 | sifi | I can't use Page UP and Page Down in GNOME Terminal, how can I fix it? |
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| 00:22.01 | takeshipwnedyou | how does that work, do i just add the line "sudo <password>" ? |
| 00:22.13 | SimonRaven | sifi: it's shift-pgup |
| 00:23.00 | Nycky | how can i see how much ram memory I`ts been using my system and how much it is free? command line mode plsss |
| 00:23.05 | takeshipwnedyou | and how do i add myself to the sudoers list? |
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| 00:23.18 | sifi | SimonRaven, yes that work, but to read new lines I have to hold enter which takes forever in long man pages |
| 00:23.23 | Xenguy | Nycky: free ? |
| 00:23.30 | Durin | wang: still trying to print to a printer connected to a windows box? |
| 00:23.55 | sifi | SimonRaven, so what I want is to use PG* to scroll down in GNOME Ternimal, any suggestion |
| 00:23.57 | SimonRaven | sifi: install less |
| 00:23.57 | Nycky | free = not used |
| 00:24.19 | wang | durin: well, I have cupsys installed but for some reason I can't add the printer using samba as the service in gnome-cups-administration tool |
| 00:24.19 | sifi | Nycky, ? |
| 00:24.27 | SimonRaven | sifi: then you can scroll up or down using the arrow keys, or pgup/down 'normally', etc/ |
| 00:24.47 | Tchiak | It's 66deg outside |
| 00:25.08 | Tchiak | sorry, wrong channel |
| 00:25.15 | thingfish | only 34F here |
| 00:25.40 | Durin | wang: try adding the printer via browser (http://localhost:631/) |
| 00:25.47 | Nycky | i need to see my how much ram memory is using my system |
| 00:25.54 | Xenguy | Nycky: top is what I use typically |
| 00:25.57 | sfullenwider | Anybody in here know how to get balsa to send "user@domain.name" for a userid..? |
| 00:26.09 | sifi | SimonRaven: thank you, now it work as it should |
| 00:26.17 | Nycky | and to see how much it is left not used? |
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| 00:26.26 | takeshipwnedyou | also, if i connect my lappy to this box using firewire, will it just add itself to the network? and how do i set it to share my internet connection with my lappy? |
| 00:26.30 | Nycky | ok |
| 00:26.30 | beardy | Nycky: free, the numbers at the +/- buffers/cache line |
| 00:26.32 | Nycky | it is fine |
| 00:26.36 | Nycky | ok |
| 00:26.37 | Nycky | 10x |
| 00:26.42 | Nycky | have a good night |
| 00:26.44 | Nycky | all |
| 00:26.45 | Xenguy | Nycky: hrm, free tells you how much is being used BTW |
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| 00:26.46 | Nycky | bye |
| 00:26.52 | Nycky | :)) |
| 00:27.15 | Nycky | I`m from Romania, sory for my english |
| 00:27.21 | Xenguy | np |
| 00:27.28 | beardy | Xenguy: Both used and free. |
| 00:27.38 | Xenguy | beardy: yep |
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| 00:27.46 | Durin | wang: the needed device URL has the following format: smb://<user>:<password>@<domain>/<host>/<printer> |
| 00:27.53 | sifi | SimonRaven, less should be standard |
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| 00:28.14 | Xenguy | beardy: Nycky suggested otherwise; hopefully he gets it now |
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| 00:30.34 | m_athias | anyone here using some HP Jetdirect + some HP printer? (jetdirect 500X, Deskjet 6122) works perfect under windows, cat FILE | telnet IP 9100 works too |
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| 00:31.09 | m_athias | but when I setup using cups it does a) nothing (when Using "JetDirect" setting or b) that "activity" led starts blinking when using IPP |
| 00:31.26 | m_athias | any suggestions? |
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| 00:31.41 | wang | durin: this is neat |
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| 00:32.08 | Durin | m_athias: i think port 9100 is "raw" not IPP |
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| 00:32.48 | wang | durin: for 'location' would I put an ip address? |
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| 00:33.10 | pppoe_dude | hi.. what is the best debian-based distribution (other than ubuntu). |
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| 00:33.17 | wang | pppoe_dude : debian |
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| 00:33.37 | GregorR | That's a mildly silly question to ask on #debian :P |
| 00:33.41 | predius_ | yeah |
| 00:33.46 | wang | it's an asinine question to ask |
| 00:33.50 | wang | you should hanged |
| 00:33.53 | pppoe_dude | and question: i tried searching for it on google with no luck: i keep getting a segmentation fault with installing debian, hence i want an alternative |
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| 00:34.14 | Durin | wang: location is just text no special meaning |
| 00:34.17 | wang | you'd rather install a whole other os than attempt to fix your problems? you should go back to windows. |
| 00:34.25 | prp | hello, verry oftopic question how the hell can i delete a file soundmodem.o on windows can't delete it in any mode it complains on something about extention too long... damn crap.. anyone any ideea .. windows channel dosen't help.. |
| 00:34.27 | stew | pppoe_dude: did you try installing with the 2.6 kernel and the 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:34.27 | wang | durin: alright, does it need to be in some sort of syntax? |
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| 00:34.49 | pppoe_dude | wang, i havent used windows in 5 years... i think you should reconsider what you are saying |
| 00:34.58 | pppoe_dude | stew: yes |
| 00:35.01 | wang | then perhaps reconsider what you are asking. |
| 00:35.23 | pppoe_dude | stew, it installs fine, but after booting (with grub and lilo) it stops with a segmentation fault (you can still type tho) |
| 00:35.31 | Durin | wang: no |
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| 00:35.56 | pppoe_dude | 1 sec i can get details |
| 00:35.59 | Durin | wang: i may even be empty |
| 00:36.08 | wang | durin hmm ok |
| 00:36.19 | predius_ | pppoe_dude: sarge install? |
| 00:36.22 | predius_ | what kernel? |
| 00:36.34 | wang | ah yes i never considered that it was asking for just information on where in the facility it is lol |
| 00:36.47 | wang | because description is right under it =P |
| 00:36.51 | pppoe_dude | predius_, yes... ker 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 00:37.18 | pppoe_dude | "/etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204: 389 Segmentation fault modprobe $MODULE: |
| 00:37.33 | Durin | wang: next step chose "Windows printer via samba" |
| 00:37.45 | stew | pppoe_dude: do you know what module it's trying to load when it dies? |
| 00:37.56 | stew | pppoe_dude: i'd consider running memtest86 as well |
| 00:37.59 | pppoe_dude | hmm... 1 sec |
| 00:38.23 | pppoe_dude | stew theres stuff about USB before that, i am not 100% sure tho |
| 00:39.08 | jade | wang, where are the facilities? |
| 00:39.12 | Durin | wang: next step device uri format is "smb://<user>:<password>@<domain>/<host>/<printer>" |
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| 00:39.44 | stew | pppoe_dude: could either a) not run discover, or b) figure out what module is being loaded and blacklist it (/msg dpkg blacklist) |
| 00:40.04 | wang | durin: that's not an option |
| 00:40.43 | sonyman | what do I need to do to get debian to automatically unmount/mount my cdroms? |
| 00:40.44 | predius_ | pppoe_dude: follow what stew said, run memtest as well |
| 00:40.58 | Durin | wang: have you installed "smbclient" as recommended by cupsys? |
| 00:41.02 | wang | Appsocket/hp jet direct, internet printing http, internet printing ipp, |
| 00:41.22 | wang | durin: i believe it came with cupsysd, hold on i'll double check |
| 00:41.45 | wang | durin: no it didn't =) |
| 00:41.47 | pppoe_dude | stew, predius_: ok, my error is very similar to the one in http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=155409 except mine is line 204 : 392 Segmentation fault... |
| 00:42.13 | pppoe_dude | stew, predius_: i'll try blacklisting, any tips? |
| 00:42.31 | pppoe_dude | so like /msg dpkg blacklist <module name>? |
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| 00:42.47 | predius_ | no |
| 00:42.50 | pppoe_dude | would i have to put it as a kernel option? |
| 00:42.54 | predius_ | ./msg dpkg blacklist |
| 00:43.00 | SimonRaven | no '<module name>' |
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| 00:44.08 | pppoe_dude | predius_, how would ./msg work tho? where would it find the command? |
| 00:44.19 | stew | !blacklist |
| 00:44.19 | dpkg | it has been said that blacklist is on etchsid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 00:44.22 | stew | ugh |
| 00:44.25 | stew | @blacklist |
| 00:44.28 | predius_ | pppoe_dude: msg the user named dpkg |
| 00:44.32 | predius_ | in here |
| 00:44.36 | SimonRaven | in your irc client... |
| 00:44.38 | stew | the blacklist factoid is messed up |
| 00:44.38 | xiaogil_ | Is there an equivalent of SuperScan on Linux ? |
| 00:44.44 | stew | ~blacklist |
| 00:44.46 | predius_ | he'l tell you HOW to blacklist. |
| 00:44.48 | SimonRaven | without the . in front |
| 00:44.50 | soymilk | stew: no, the Makefile in the doc/ directory in the source is not mentioned in the main Makefile |
| 00:44.57 | sonyman | what do I need to do to get debian to automatically unmount/mount my cdroms? anyone? |
| 00:44.57 | pppoe_dude | oh k |
| 00:45.09 | stew | soymilk: run make -C doc [target] in build-indep |
| 00:45.10 | predius_ | dpkg: blacklist |
| 00:45.10 | dpkg | [blacklist] on etchsid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 00:45.18 | predius_ | there |
| 00:45.20 | stew | no |
| 00:45.20 | soymilk | stew: thanks |
| 00:45.21 | predius_ | bbl |
| 00:45.24 | stew | thats not right |
| 00:45.27 | dusk | okay, how can I make a script to launch You hit Matted in the Kevlar Vest. |
| 00:45.27 | dusk | You hit Matted in the Kevlar Vest. |
| 00:45.27 | dusk | Matted was on the wrong end of du5K's G36. |
| 00:45.33 | dusk | shit. >< ><, Im sorry |
| 00:46.00 | wang | wtf |
| 00:46.05 | SimonRaven | basically, you add the name to a file. for discover, it's in /etc/discover |
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| 00:46.33 | dusk | heh, i want to just type q3ut at console and have it run this command: /usr/local/games/quake3/quake3 +set fs_game q3ut3 |
| 00:46.34 | pppoe_dude | so like make a file /etc/discover/blacklist that says <usb> or something? |
| 00:46.57 | stew | !no blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). if etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 00:46.57 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 00:46.58 | Durin | sonyman: put yourself in group plugdev (if i remeber correctly) |
| 00:47.03 | stew | pppoe_dude: ^^^ |
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| 00:47.16 | soymilk | dusk: create an alias in your ~/.bashrc |
| 00:47.27 | stew | !blacklist =~ s#if etch and sid#in etch and sid# |
| 00:47.27 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 00:47.28 | sonyman | Durin, do I need to change "noauto" in etc/fstab? |
| 00:47.30 | pppoe_dude | stew thnx |
| 00:48.04 | Muffie | hi all. I was doing a apt-get dist-upgrade, but I have received this error in the middle of the installation. What should I do? Is there a way to resume it? "udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, upgrade aborted." + "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archiv |
| 00:48.21 | Durin | sonyman: no - that entry is relevant for booting |
| 00:48.22 | pppoe_dude | stew, do you think i should try to install an older debian distro first? |
| 00:48.36 | sonyman | Durin, whats the command to add myself? |
| 00:48.46 | sonyman | Durin, I don't need autofs, do I? |
| 00:48.50 | pppoe_dude | k |
| 00:48.53 | pppoe_dude | ill try that first |
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| 00:49.12 | Durin | sonyman: vi /etc/group or some addgroup command |
| 00:49.21 | dusk | soymilk: alias q3ut='/usr/local/games/quake3/quake3 +set fs_game q3ut3' |
| 00:49.31 | dusk | is there anything I have to do to update it? |
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| 00:50.14 | Durin | sonyman: autofs is for NFS not cdrom |
| 00:50.48 | sonyman | Durin, ok. I'll worry about it later. Now I have to figure out how to unmount my cdroms. "Device or resource busy" and -f won't do it |
| 00:51.38 | diana | sonyman: Just take a paperclip and stick it in the hole where your cdrom door is. |
| 00:51.39 | Seb | hmm, shh is taking 99% of my cpu when copying large files using scp, any idea why ? |
| 00:51.45 | diana | sonyman: Or just type the "eject" command as roott. |
| 00:51.59 | Seb | diana: hrm, no, he needs to find out what's using his device |
| 00:52.02 | zinx | Seb: because encryption take CPU :/ |
| 00:52.06 | diana | Seb: Because it is encrypting those files when they send. |
| 00:52.11 | Seb | zinx: i never saw that before |
| 00:52.18 | sonyman | diana, that hole isn't meant for regular usage, and eject won't do it |
| 00:52.22 | Seb | and i've used scp to copy large files for a while now |
| 00:52.22 | diana | Seb: If you want secure transfers...you need cpu power. |
| 00:52.24 | zinx | Seb: you must have had some really fast computers, or really slow connections... |
| 00:52.26 | sonyman | diana, if I have to reboot, I have to reboot :-( |
| 00:52.31 | diana | sonyman: sure it is. |
| 00:52.44 | Seb | sonyman: sudo lsof /where/your/cdrom/ismounted |
| 00:52.58 | zinx | Seb: you can use rsync instead, but that's not going to make things go any faster.. just better :P |
| 00:53.20 | Seb | diana: why would you insist on using such a brute force solution ? sonyman is right, that hole isn't meant for regular usage |
| 00:53.26 | Seb | some holes are, though, heh |
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| 00:53.35 | Seb | zinx: hmm, ok :) |
| 00:53.40 | sonyman | Seb, ok I killed the process that was interfering--thanks :-) |
| 00:53.46 | Seb | sonyman: you're welcome |
| 00:53.52 | sonyman | Seb, some holes are definately meant for brutality ;-) |
| 00:54.01 | Seb | heh, well I didn't go that far :> |
| 00:54.06 | zinx | (well, it'll make it go faster if you don't set RSYNC_RSH=ssh, but that's only because it won't be secure if you don't do that :P ) |
| 00:54.07 | sonyman | :P |
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| 00:54.25 | Seb | zinx: heh, i'm the kind of person that'll go with security rather than speed |
| 00:54.32 | Seb | so, let that CPU burn if it needs to :> |
| 00:54.53 | Trewas | encryption should not slow things all that much with a non-ancient processor, of course depending on how fast the network is... even pentium mmx 200mhz can do >1MB/s with blowfish/aes |
| 00:55.05 | Seb | well it's gong fast |
| 00:55.08 | Seb | it's not the problem |
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| 00:55.22 | Seb | it's just that I had never noticed 99% cpu usage before, when doing that same kind of operation |
| 00:55.49 | Seb | diana: so, you took good note of what to tell people next time they complain about not being able to unmount their cdrom ? :) |
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| 00:57.08 | zinx | my p2-mobile 366MHz can only do about 4Mbit/s |
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| 00:58.21 | beardy | !wiui |
| 00:58.21 | dpkg | What Is Using It? When trying to umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a certain thing, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' to see which process and user that is using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
| 00:58.26 | beardy | ^^ those concerned |
| 00:59.36 | Seb | beardy: ah, thanks, I knew there had to be a factoid for it |
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| 01:08.50 | sonyman | Durin, "sudo adduser <myname> plugdev" did the trick |
| 01:09.16 | Durin | sonyman: great :-) |
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| 01:09.51 | sonyman | I tell you, everyday, there are fewer and fewer reasons to even keep my windows partitions :-) |
| 01:10.47 | crash3m_ | heh, my windows partition is currently holding about 18G of information I copied from linux |
| 01:10.49 | Durin | sonyman: windows? what the hell is windows? |
| 01:11.04 | sonyman | Durin, now thats the way to think! |
| 01:11.38 | GregorR | Hmm, I'm as confused as Durin ... why would some strange piece of carpentry be in your computer? |
| 01:11.49 | sonyman | you guys are too much :D |
| 01:11.51 | pure2 | i keep windows installed for netstumbler untill i got a wireless card that has native linux drivers :) |
| 01:12.30 | sonyman | does anyone know the difference between staroffice and starsuite? |
| 01:12.36 | Durin | pure2: i use atheros based cards using the madwifi driver |
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| 01:12.51 | sonyman | Durin, you don't know how to get it working under etch, do ya? |
| 01:12.52 | thingfish | I am addicted somewhat to ms flight simulator 2004, otherwise I'd easily be done with windows. |
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| 01:13.08 | beardy | sonyman: Staroffice in proprietary isn't it? |
| 01:13.21 | beardy | is |
| 01:13.25 | sonyman | yes |
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| 01:13.58 | pure2 | durin im getting a atheros based card tomorrow i cant wait to have some fun with aircrack :) |
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| 01:14.38 | Durin | pure2: my neighbor: WEP40 - key "AAAAABBBBB" :-)))) |
| 01:14.45 | pure2 | :D |
| 01:14.55 | pure2 | im goner freak out my sister with airpwn :D |
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| 01:15.16 | sleless | what release should i use if i've got a amd64 bit dual core opteron ? |
| 01:15.34 | thingfish | sleless: #toomuchmoney |
| 01:16.03 | thingfish | sleless: ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 01:16.28 | sonyman | how can I change the ownership of a folder and its subdirectories to my user from root? |
| 01:16.48 | GregorR | chown -R username directory |
| 01:16.54 | Durin | sonyman: i have used http://debian.marlow.dk/ as an entry point |
| 01:17.09 | crash3m_ | sleless: gee, you dont think there might be a little slant towards debian here do you? |
| 01:17.16 | sonyman | Durin, but his apt entry has "sid" listed |
| 01:17.24 | thingfish | crash3m_: ;) |
| 01:17.48 | sonyman | GregorR, thanks |
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| 01:19.05 | Durin | sonyman: oops, wrong link: http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi but i have build the packages by my own |
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| 01:19.40 | sonyman | Durin, what do you mean? "deb ftp://debian.marlow.dk/ sid madwifi" is what I was referring to |
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| 01:21.33 | Durin | sonyman: sorry, http://debian.marlow.dk/ is wrong (dont know why it is still in my bookmarks) look at http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi |
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| 01:22.22 | bleck | how can I backup my entire / to a tarball on the same filesystem? |
| 01:22.29 | sonyman | Durin, thats what I'm looking at. His repository is still for sid |
| 01:23.01 | GregorR | bleck: Look at --exclude in man tar |
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| 01:24.15 | bleck | thanks |
| 01:24.27 | quitte | bleck: and dont backup /proc and /sys |
| 01:25.19 | Durin | sonyman: there is a chapter "The package build" - you can build the right packages for yourself |
| 01:25.57 | sonyman | Durin, this is the link "ftp://debian.marlow.dk/dists/sid/madwifi/pool/madwifi_1.7-3.dsc" notice "sid" |
| 01:26.10 | sonyman | thats for the package builder |
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| 01:28.34 | Durin | sonyman: thats correct, you are using the sid/unstable sources to build your sarge/etch binaries |
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| 01:29.36 | Durin | sonyman: but only in this case, if you do this with standard debian packages you are building so called backports |
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| 01:31.36 | selfcontr0l | i'm so confused! i still can't get alsa to find my soundcard! it worked before! |
| 01:31.42 | selfcontr0l | then i f'd something up |
| 01:32.00 | selfcontr0l | i have all of the alsa packages installed |
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| 01:32.27 | selfcontr0l | i did dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source |
| 01:32.43 | sonyman | Durin, so follow the guide normally? |
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| 01:32.53 | selfcontr0l | i did m-a i-a alsa |
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| 01:33.36 | Durin | sonyman: so i have done ... |
| 01:33.49 | sonyman | Durin, :-) |
| 01:34.18 | Durin | sonyman: localtime 02:34 - n8 |
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| 01:34.39 | sonyman | Durin, ? |
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| 01:35.31 | Durin | sonyman: i have to leave now - its 02:34 in germany ... |
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| 01:35.45 | sonyman | Durin, guten nacht |
| 01:35.52 | Durin | sonyman: danke |
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| 01:37.31 | poli | Does the postfix package come with LMTP support? |
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| 01:45.34 | Jxpx | algun chileno? |
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| 01:46.49 | gcoppini | Jxpx, brasileiros...sim |
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| 01:54.08 | selfcontr0l | ok after i edit the /etc/modutils/alsa-base file and i run update-modules, what is the next step? |
| 01:54.29 | selfcontr0l | does that mean the module is installed? |
| 01:54.45 | selfcontr0l | (or will be after reboot)? |
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| 01:56.15 | jah_raztah | is there some kind of flame war between debiana dn ubuntu? |
| 01:56.19 | jah_raztah | debian* |
| 01:56.57 | pixolet | what makes you think that? |
| 01:57.08 | jah_raztah | i read on forums |
| 01:57.28 | pixolet | hehe |
| 01:57.37 | jah_raztah | and plus on distrowatch article |
| 01:57.46 | sonyman | I hate ubuntu |
| 01:58.12 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: if you read it, then you can answer the question for yourself |
| 01:58.14 | pixolet | yea.. |
| 01:58.21 | jah_raztah | why choose debian over ubuntu, if you can convice me that debain is better for me as a home user... then i'll switch to it |
| 01:58.28 | diana | jah_raztah: no there isn'tt |
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| 01:58.36 | pixolet | besides, no contest, debian>ubuntu |
| 01:58.44 | sonyman | jah_raztah, because brown sucks as a desktop theme color :-) |
| 01:58.51 | diana | jah_raztah: no one cares what distro you use...go pick it yourself. |
| 01:58.59 | sonyman | ouch |
| 01:59.00 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: make your own mind up. don't troll |
| 01:59.19 | GregorR | Linspire! |
| 01:59.20 | GregorR | ;) |
| 01:59.22 | GregorR | J/K |
| 01:59.25 | Darth_Greig | lol |
| 01:59.25 | pixolet | lol |
| 01:59.27 | diana | !start a distro war |
| 01:59.27 | dpkg | Rock is stupid! |
| 01:59.35 | diana | !start a distro war |
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| 01:59.37 | selfcontr0l | pls help with understanding kernel module installation --- after i run update-modules does that mean the module is set to install? how do i tell? |
| 01:59.43 | antgel_ | um, that's more like a drugs war |
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| 01:59.54 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: man modules |
| 02:00.04 | antgel_ | !tell selfcontr0l about pls |
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| 02:00.17 | jah_raztah | no i'm not starting a war or saying debian sucks or anything. just asking as strictly a home user, who doesn't do any advanced networking or programming, is debain a better distro then ubuntu |
| 02:00.35 | selfcontr0l | so if the module for alsa isnt there then it won't start? |
| 02:00.38 | Darth_Greig | are you knew to linux in general? |
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| 02:00.46 | SerajewelKS | firefox doesn't use connect() ?! |
| 02:00.50 | jah_raztah | well i on;y had the ubuntu experience |
| 02:00.51 | beardy | jah_raztah: You were told. Make up your own mind, try. |
| 02:01.00 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: you need to decide for yourself. this is flame bait. please stop |
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| 02:01.05 | Darth_Greig | jah_raztah:: then try debian and compare for yourself |
| 02:01.07 | SerajewelKS | or does the 'firefox' script somehow bork ld preload? |
| 02:01.08 | beardy | !better |
| 02:01.08 | dpkg | well, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 02:01.17 | jah_raztah | i can't becasue i haven't tied debian, that's why i was curious and wanted opinions |
| 02:01.27 | beardy | jah_raztah: Try it then. |
| 02:01.28 | jah_raztah | so far i only tried ubuntu, so maybe debain is better |
| 02:01.33 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: our opinion is that you should try it |
| 02:01.34 | SerajewelKS | !debain |
| 02:01.34 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
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| 02:02.11 | selfcontr0l | antgel_: man modules is pretty short. how do i tell my computer to load alsa at boot? |
| 02:02.31 | Darth_Greig | do you have it loaded and working manually first? |
| 02:02.31 | bbrazil | selfcontr0l: /etc/modules |
| 02:02.32 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: alsa is not a module |
| 02:03.26 | selfcontr0l | antgel_: ok the alsaconf is not finding my card, but i know it will work with snd-via82xx |
| 02:03.33 | minesgm | there is already a gyach ymessenger running, when i try to install yahoo messenger for debian it did not run anymore anyone can help me retrieve the gyach again? |
| 02:03.41 | jah_raztah | i see you guys are not in a happy talkative mood, so i guess i'll check the websites and forums, i just figured if i asked here i can get the facts and all the info stright and quickly |
| 02:03.49 | diana | selfcontr0l: Add 'snd-via82xx" to the last line on /etc/modules |
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| 02:04.08 | selfcontr0l | is snd-via82xx a module? |
| 02:04.11 | diana | minesgm: Just use gaim. |
| 02:04.12 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: why do you want to look at other opinions to make your own mind up |
| 02:04.29 | jah_raztah | because i like to hear what other people like and don't like |
| 02:04.31 | antgel_ | is anyone following #ubuntu? jah_raztah is there as well |
| 02:04.35 | selfcontr0l | how do you tell if something is a "module" |
| 02:04.35 | diana | selfcontr0l: lsmod|grep -i snd-via |
| 02:04.42 | antgel_ | jah_raztah: well you can assume we like debian |
| 02:04.46 | minesgm | i have gaim already.. but my client prefer gyach for ymessenger |
| 02:04.48 | diana | diana: type lsmod |
| 02:04.51 | SerajewelKS | jah_raztah: do you like coke or pepsi? |
| 02:04.57 | Darth_Greig | antgel:: yes... |
| 02:05.01 | jah_raztah | i don't know |
| 02:05.08 | jah_raztah | i drink which ever i can get on sale |
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| 02:05.12 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: can you get dpkg to do something funny when people talk to themselves |
| 02:05.28 | minddog | has anyone used simple-cdd |
| 02:05.31 | SerajewelKS | jah_raztah: well i like pepsi. i also like debian. |
| 02:05.37 | beardy | !anyone use |
| 02:05.37 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 02:05.44 | minddog | lol |
| 02:05.45 | SerajewelKS | jah_raztah: so i think debian is better, yes |
| 02:05.46 | jah_raztah | SerajewelKS, can you explain why you like pepsi |
| 02:05.47 | NOthsouth | HOw can I open WMV on debian ? |
| 02:05.48 | jah_raztah | i mean debain |
| 02:05.53 | beardy | minddog: You'll find it more meaningful to ask a real question. |
| 02:05.59 | selfcontr0l | diana: it's not loaded...how can i load it manually ? |
| 02:06.01 | SerajewelKS | jah_raztah: the package system mainly |
| 02:06.02 | stew | NOthsouth: install w32codecs from marillat, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 02:06.04 | minesgm | anyone help me please |
| 02:06.05 | diana | dondelelcaro: Can you update !start a distro war...most people who start distro wars don't know any of those distros...can you put the populars one on the list |
| 02:06.09 | deadcat | NOthsouth: double click |
| 02:06.13 | antgel_ | Darth_Greig: is there any indication of his proposed trolling? |
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| 02:06.17 | diana | selfcontr0l: modprobe thenameofmodulehere |
| 02:06.20 | antgel_ | !literal start a distro war |
| 02:06.20 | dpkg | start a distro war is <reply> (SuSE|Fedora|Mandriva|Progeny|Slackware|Gentoo|Rock) (rocks|owns|0wnz|(rox0rz|sux0rz)|is (lame|stupid))! |
| 02:06.20 | dondelelcaro | diana: so add them |
| 02:06.21 | beardy | !tell minesgm -about ask |
| 02:06.31 | minddog | beardy: how about, is it easy to add a module to load up with it |
| 02:06.37 | minddog | i'm trying to figure out how |
| 02:06.45 | minesgm | there is already a gyach ymessenger running, when i try to install yahoo messenger for debian it did not run anymore anyone can help me retrieve the gyach again? |
| 02:06.53 | beardy | !ask |
| 02:06.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:07.21 | diana | minddog: Just add the module name to thee end of thee list in /etc/modules |
| 02:07.27 | antgel_ | debhelper: who owns you |
| 02:07.31 | Darth_Greig | antgel:: nah, he's just trying to get opinions for something he should figure out himself... |
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| 02:07.49 | antgel_ | Darth_Greig: ok. i just thought, with all the debain spelling etc :) |
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| 02:08.06 | antgel_ | hmm |
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| 02:08.45 | minddog | =) |
| 02:08.59 | beardy | minesgm: Just start it again, whatever it is.. |
| 02:09.05 | NOthsouth | what is the apt repository of marillat /? |
| 02:09.11 | NOthsouth | http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html .... main ? stable ??? |
| 02:09.13 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: assuming you have something to do with debhelper, can you get it to /msg flooders when they get kicked, with a topicsmite? |
| 02:09.13 | beardy | NOthsouth: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 02:09.17 | antgel_ | NOthsouth: as dpkg |
| 02:09.21 | antgel_ | doh |
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| 02:09.34 | stew | NOthsouth: http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html <-- has instructions |
| 02:09.37 | SerajewelKS | how/why are the firefox scripts resetting LD_PRELOAD? i can't find any statement in the scripts |
| 02:09.42 | minddog | okay, third times a charm, do i have to build a package to add a module in to a debian cd |
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| 02:09.59 | beardy | !confuse minddog |
| 02:10.03 | dpkg | No, those was their pineapple today, minddog? pants of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra cream |
| 02:10.12 | stew | minddog: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 02:11.08 | NOthsouth | this is not working!! deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 02:11.39 | tybalt89 | Hi. I've got a debian sarge that came with perl5.8.4 I needed perl5.8.7 for perlgolf purposes. Installing 5.8.7 as /usr/bin/perl broke apt-get. How do I get needed apt stuff into 5.8.7? |
| 02:11.53 | minddog | stew gracias, thats what i need =) |
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| 02:12.01 | beardy | tybalt89: How did you install it? |
| 02:12.10 | dondelelcaro | antgel_: too much bother. |
| 02:12.27 | tybalt89 | beardy: grabbing perl source from perl.org |
| 02:12.32 | beardy | (what is perlgolf?) |
| 02:12.45 | SerajewelKS | the hell |
| 02:12.48 | selfcontr0l | ok when i modprobe snd-via82xx, i get all these "Unknown symbol snd_xxxx_xxxx" |
| 02:12.54 | SerajewelKS | how does a connect() ld_preload wrapper not get called by firefox? |
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| 02:13.05 | tybalt89 | beardy: a competition to write shortest program to solve a given problem in perl |
| 02:13.08 | beardy | tybalt89: And why didn't you build it in the right place, /usr/local? |
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| 02:13.45 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: if you want 5.8.7, just upgrade to testing; alternatively, get a backport of perl 5.8.7 |
| 02:13.55 | tybalt89 | beardy: I did, but I put a link from /usr/bin/perl to /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 |
| 02:13.59 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: why you need 5.8.7 instead of 5.8.4 is rather questionable, though. |
| 02:14.10 | beardy | tybalt89: Undo it? |
| 02:14.11 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: doing that is liable to break all sorts of things. |
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| 02:14.27 | tybalt89 | dondelelcaro: perlgolf rules require specific perl version |
| 02:14.30 | selfcontr0l | diana: ok when i modprobe snd-via82xx, i get all these "Unknown symbol snd_xxxx_xxxx" |
| 02:14.37 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: no they don't |
| 02:14.54 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: specific golfs may just fail to work on certain versions. |
| 02:15.19 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: but in the case of a golf, all you care about is the perl binary anyway, since you're not going to use a module. |
| 02:15.32 | tybalt89 | dondelelcaro: many golfs specify solution must work on particular perl version |
| 02:16.08 | mfrisch | OK I borked something compiling a prog. Neither my dhcp3-client or server will get or send leases. What packages do I need to reinstall to get things back up. I reinstalled dhcp3-client nothing. |
| 02:16.13 | beardy | tybalt89: Just put the original symlink back and alias perl to what you want. |
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| 02:16.18 | antgel_ | !start a distro war |
| 02:16.18 | dpkg | Rock is the mutts nuts! |
| 02:16.22 | antgel_ | !start a distro war |
| 02:16.26 | Lorian | lspci returns 0000:01:00.0 for my ATI card. In my xorg.conf how should my BusID look... "PCI:0:01:0" ? |
| 02:16.29 | antgel_ | nice |
| 02:16.44 | tybalt89 | beardy: I could undo it, but I guess I'm looking for the (I think) debconf package to install into 5.8.7 |
| 02:16.48 | dondelelcaro | tybalt89: which is why you just call that specific golf with your locally installed perl binary. |
| 02:16.53 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: fair enough. so you do own debhelper then? what sort of bot is it? |
| 02:17.03 | dondelelcaro | antgel_: it's an eggrop, and yes... |
| 02:17.23 | dondelelcaro | antgel_: I really just don't want the bot /msg'ing people; the information it provides in its REMOVE excuse is informative enough |
| 02:17.28 | NOthsouth | stew, thx man, i do it :) |
| 02:17.48 | beardy | tybalt89: Either what I said, or as dondelelcaro said, get a backport. |
| 02:17.52 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: fair enough. i suppose an unsolicited /msg isn't the best plan |
| 02:18.07 | tybalt89 | beardy: ok, thanks. |
| 02:18.17 | lordnazgu | where can i find out the syntax for creating an initscript? |
| 02:18.25 | antgel_ | lordnazgu: /etc/init.d/README |
| 02:18.34 | mathias64 | lordnazgu: nano /etc/init.d/my.init.script |
| 02:18.44 | dondelelcaro | lordnazgu: also see /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 02:18.46 | lordnazgu | thx guys |
| 02:18.46 | stew | lordnazgu: look at /etc/init.d/skeleton as well |
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| 02:21.03 | stew | heh |
| 02:21.13 | dondelelcaro | I guess no one working at a company which uses symatec will ever get a signed cert mailed to them |
| 02:21.43 | deadcat | it does? |
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| 02:21.57 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: now that's secure |
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| 02:22.46 | Roey | hello al |
| 02:22.47 | Roey | all |
| 02:22.59 | bucky | antgel: do you want white space at the end of your line whe you escape? |
| 02:23.03 | antgel_ | hello dr nick! |
| 02:23.07 | Roey | bucky: heya |
| 02:23.10 | Roey | =) |
| 02:23.14 | bucky | sup! |
| 02:23.17 | Roey | antgel_: heh |
| 02:23.26 | Roey | bucky: was having an issue with sudo |
| 02:23.32 | Roey | bucky: it doesn't ask me for my password. |
| 02:23.36 | Roey | [:(] |
| 02:23.41 | bucky | sounds like a ubuntu thing |
| 02:23.49 | Roey | bucky: even when there's an explicit PASSWORD: ALL in the alias. |
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| 02:24.15 | antgel_ | bucky: most times i don't think i care. i knew there would be a reason |
| 02:24.20 | mfrisch | What packages are used to set up networking in Debian? |
| 02:24.32 | antgel_ | !wayttd mfrisch |
| 02:24.33 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, mfrisch? |
| 02:24.33 | beardy | mfrisch: man 5 interfaces |
| 02:24.52 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: anything that modifies /etc/network/interfaces can set up networking... |
| 02:24.57 | Roey | antgel_: every time I read your nick I think of jelly made of ants. It's so funny and non-sequitor |
| 02:25.04 | mfrisch | antgel my dhcp client and server ain't working anymore |
| 02:25.25 | mfrisch | dondelelcaro interfaces is the same |
| 02:25.27 | Roey | *non-sequitur |
| 02:25.56 | antgel_ | Roey: it's been said before. or hair gel for ants. it's nothing to do with either, but if you're laughing, i'm happy |
| 02:26.18 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: aren't working in what way? |
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| 02:26.24 | antgel_ | mfrisch: when you say client and server aren't working, do you mean one isn't working? |
| 02:26.25 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: what have you changed? did you ugprade kernels? |
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| 02:27.00 | mfrisch | dondelelcaro I compiled AMP and now it won't get/send leases |
| 02:27.21 | Roey | antgel_: I think it's cute in a non-sequitur sorta way |
| 02:27.34 | mfrisch | antgel I have dhcp server and the client running for two interfaces |
| 02:27.37 | Roey | antgel_: hair gel for ants, hehe :) exaclty... actually,that's more like what I was thinking. |
| 02:28.22 | Roey | antgel_: I have a friend who shares the first three syllables of his name with yours. |
| 02:28.33 | beardy | !waic mfrisch |
| 02:28.42 | Roey | antgel_: anton gelXYZ |
| 02:28.48 | diana | dondelelcaro: If my wnpp was itp'd like 3 weeks ago...how can I check the status of to development?..and see when it will get added to sid. |
| 02:28.49 | antgel_ | Roey: you in .il? |
| 02:28.50 | Roey | antgel_: where XYZ is another Jewish ending. |
| 02:28.59 | Roey | antgel_: no, but I was there in July ;) |
| 02:29.12 | dondelelcaro | diana: ask the person who ITPed |
| 02:29.16 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: AMP? |
| 02:29.21 | antgel_ | Roey: nice. it's antony, not anton btw :) |
| 02:29.26 | Roey | antgel_: I know, I know :) |
| 02:29.31 | Roey | antgel_: jews named antony? |
| 02:29.32 | mfrisch | dondelelcaro Asterisk Management Portal |
| 02:30.01 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: is that a kernel module or something? |
| 02:30.14 | antgel_ | Roey: not exactly sure what that question was |
| 02:30.34 | mfrisch | dondelelcaro nope web-based config of asterisk |
| 02:30.41 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: it's a portal! duh :P |
| 02:30.44 | Roey | antgel_: you're Jewish? |
| 02:30.54 | dondelelcaro | antgel_: well, it's certainly not a door. |
| 02:30.55 | sparr_ | how can i tell which app has my ALSA sound input (mic) locked? |
| 02:31.06 | antgel_ | Roey: indeed |
| 02:31.09 | Roey | antgel_: if so then you're the first one named Antony who I've ever met! |
| 02:31.21 | Roey | antgel_: I am Roey, btw. |
| 02:31.40 | antgel_ | Roey: there's quite a few of us. mostly with the 'h' i.e. anthony |
| 02:31.43 | dondelelcaro | mfrisch: ok, that shouldn't have affected anything unless it's totally screwed up your dhcpd.conf or dhcp-client configuration; what exactly is the behavoir that you're seeing? |
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| 02:31.53 | antgel_ | Roey: i knew that. your /nick gave it away |
| 02:31.57 | Roey | antgel_: see I always thought that 'anthony' is a Roman name and everything |
| 02:32.16 | Roey | antgel_: See here in America people just think it's the same thing as Roy |
| 02:32.21 | antgel_ | Roey: i must admit, i have no idea about it's origins |
| 02:32.27 | Roey | *it's |
| 02:32.28 | Roey | ahh |
| 02:32.42 | Roey | antgel_: but Roy and Roey are different names |
| 02:32.50 | Roey | etymologically. |
| 02:32.52 | antgel_ | Roey: i had a friend called eyal who changed his name to james as nobody could pronounce it |
| 02:33.02 | Roey | seoirusly |
| 02:33.03 | Roey | wow |
| 02:33.10 | Roey | could they pronounce eyal? |
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| 02:33.35 | antgel_ | Roey: no, that's what i'm saying. but he is trying to be english as possible generally |
| 02:33.36 | mfrisch | dondelelcaro You know it may have changed my timezone I can't get leases with the wrong time right? It does not get a lease from my ISP. I have recopied the dhcpd.conf and dhclient.conf files still nothing |
| 02:33.50 | Roey | antgel_: so his name is now Eyal James? |
| 02:34.03 | antgel_ | mfrisch: i was not aware that dhcp depended on time |
| 02:34.19 | manuel_ | español por favor |
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| 02:34.23 | antgel_ | Roey: nope, just james |
| 02:34.27 | Roey | antgel_: oh. Oh wow. |
| 02:34.30 | mfrisch | antgel I am speculating |
| 02:34.31 | antgel_ | !tell manuel_ about es |
| 02:34.36 | Roey | antgel_: if he's happy, I guess :) |
| 02:34.43 | antgel_ | mfrisch: i doubt it's that |
| 02:34.44 | manuel_ | about.es? |
| 02:34.56 | antgel_ | Roey: we still call him eyal as it annoys him |
| 02:35.14 | manuel_ | about.es |
| 02:35.15 | Roey | antgel_: but seriously, this is not the first time you've been told your nick sounds interesting? |
| 02:35.16 | antgel_ | *sigh* |
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| 02:35.20 | antgel_ | !es |
| 02:35.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:35.42 | Roey | antgel_: is he comfortable with himself or something that he changed his name? |
| 02:36.17 | antgel_ | Roey: indeed. which is strange as it just looks like random letters and is rather awkward. it also shows my lack of imagination. otherwise i'd be called progdude, or ledzep etc |
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| 02:37.07 | antgel_ | Roey: i think he was never that comfortable with his background here. .uk is multi-cultural apparently, but everyone mostly keeps themselves to themselves |
| 02:37.27 | Roey | antgel_: so much for multiculturalism, if everyone keeps to themselves |
| 02:37.32 | Roey | I meant 'melting pot', rather |
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| 02:37.43 | Roey | antgel_: you grew up in the UK? |
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| 02:37.58 | antgel_ | Roey: yep |
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| 02:38.16 | spatulasnout | hi, What's the easiest way to copy a running system onto a similarly-partitioned new drive, and expect to be able to boot off the new drive? so far i've copied all the files over with "cp -a" ... and i'll make a GRUB entry pointing to the new drive? But i'm guessing there's more to it? (it's a remote server so it's hard to just experiment) |
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| 02:38.26 | Roey | antgel_: ah, you prolly speak with a British accent then, right? which one? |
| 02:38.47 | antgel_ | spatulasnout: make sure to install the boot loader. good luck |
| 02:38.49 | Guerin | spatulasnout: that should work |
| 02:38.53 | antgel_ | Roey: london |
| 02:38.58 | Roey | antgel_: interesting |
| 02:39.09 | Roey | antgel_: jesus, where were you during the bombings?? |
| 02:39.15 | Guerin | spatulasnout: the safest way to do the copy is to use tar, which will catch all sockets and randome little pseudo-files |
| 02:39.32 | antgel_ | Roey: i recall a holiday in FL many years ago when the girls loved my accent ;) |
| 02:39.41 | Roey | heh |
| 02:39.48 | Roey | antgel_: are you around the age of 25 or so? |
| 02:40.01 | mfrisch | antgel FL girls like any accent |
| 02:40.03 | spatulasnout | Guerin: ok... (i was hoping "cp -a" handled that properly... but i can definitely redo it with tar instead) |
| 02:40.06 | Roey | mfrisch: HAH |
| 02:40.24 | Roey | mfrisch: but there's something about British accents that sounds 'refined' |
| 02:40.30 | Roey | mfrisch: at least to American ears... |
| 02:41.02 | spatulasnout | antgel / Guerin: i'd read something about needing to re-build initrd if the partitions had changed... does that make any sense? |
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| 02:41.09 | mfrisch | Roey you haven't heard sid vicious talk |
| 02:41.14 | antgel_ | Roey: funny you should ask. i had (another) argument with my ex-gf the previous night, which was such a bad one that it left me unable to even get out of bed until about 9:30. i would usually have been passing through aldgate/liverpool street at that time. the roads were gridlocked. i saw some unlovely sights |
| 02:41.16 | Guerin | spatulasnout: honestly, i thought cp -a did, and it's always seemed to do so for me, but someone told me it left out sockets. |
| 02:41.29 | antgel_ | Ronin: little older, why, you got a hot date for me? |
| 02:41.33 | ShockingBlueLED | antgel_: ok |
| 02:41.44 | Guerin | ShockingBlueLED: not all english people tallk like Hugh Grant |
| 02:41.47 | ShockingBlueLED | antgel_: was just wondering. You remind me of my friend Anton |
| 02:42.03 | ShockingBlueLED | Guerin: right right irght. Some talk like Dick van Dyke on Marry Poppins. |
| 02:42.05 | ShockingBlueLED | :P |
| 02:42.28 | ShockingBlueLED | Guerin: it's the Received Pronunciation accent that does it for me, personally. |
| 02:42.40 | ShockingBlueLED | antgel_: see, it's that. |
| 02:42.46 | antgel_ | ShockingBlueLED: i vote that you use the short /nick again :) |
| 02:42.53 | ShockingBlueLED | antgel_: like, do you drink tea? do you even eat cucumber sandwhiches? |
| 02:42.56 | ShockingBlueLED | antgel_: agreed |
| 02:43.04 | OLED | nah |
| 02:43.10 | antgel_ | ShockingBlueLED: i don't even know what that accent is. i know nothing about the technicalities of english |
| 02:43.23 | Roey | antgel_: can you make yourself sound like a Washingtonian? |
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| 02:43.39 | Guerin | everyone drinks tea |
| 02:43.49 | Guerin | it's by far the most popular hot drink in the world |
| 02:44.00 | Guerin | and has been for about five thousand years |
| 02:44.01 | Roey | antgel_: Received Pronunciation is also called Estuary English; it's what well-to-do kids were taught in elementary school in England. |
| 02:44.11 | antgel_ | Roey: i drink tea but without cow juice. don't react well to dairy. tend to go for green / mint / camomile tea, so not that british there |
| 02:44.21 | Roey | Guerin: BUT I learned today that it's one of the most heavily PROCESSED foods. |
| 02:44.25 | antgel_ | Roey: i would not eat a cucumber sandwich and have never seen one |
| 02:44.39 | dondelelcaro | Roey: depends on the type of tea |
| 02:44.39 | Roey | antgel_: aye. See, I don't like the taste. |
| 02:44.44 | Guerin | Roey: depends where you get it from |
| 02:44.56 | Roey | dondelelcaro: well for instance... this Brisk tea they sell in the US. |
| 02:44.59 | dondelelcaro | most green teas aren't too terribly processed, but black teas by definition are. |
| 02:45.06 | Roey | dondelelcaro: it has tons of added chemicals. |
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| 02:45.13 | Guerin | not that processed is a bad thing, necessarily |
| 02:45.31 | Roey | dondelelcaro: (sorry, Lipton, not Brisk... we have Lipton at work. It's black cut pekote tea) |
| 02:45.32 | dondelelcaro | Roey: uh... brisk comes as a powder or in cans. It doesn't even qualify as tea. It's a tea substitute. |
| 02:45.45 | Roey | dondelelcaro: Lipton it was, sorry. |
| 02:45.51 | antgel_ | Roey: estuary english i'm familiar with. i speak ok i guess, but i have a little estuary in me from when i grew up in east london. e.g. tend to pronounce metal as metel rather than mettle. little as littel etc |
| 02:46.00 | Guerin | it's roasting, fermentation, blanching, smoking, seasoning are all aspects of traditional tea preparation, it's just that they're mostly automated now |
| 02:46.34 | antgel_ | herbal teas are becoming more popular here but middle england still swears by a cup of flowery earl grey |
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| 02:46.50 | mfrisch | yerba mate rules |
| 02:46.54 | Roey | antgel_: but you don't say things like.. they've certainly go' a lo' of tha' |
| 02:47.04 | antgel_ | i like the green, feel it does me good, and the camomile is dead calming |
| 02:47.04 | levander | there's a graphical editor for grub's menu.lst file? |
| 02:47.05 | Guerin | i've been drinking chai since winter set in |
| 02:47.07 | beardy | !literal cmd: wiui (.*?) |
| 02:47.07 | dpkg | CMD: wiui (.*?) is ($1): What Is Using It? When trying to umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a certain thing, a device, a port, and so on, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' (as root) to see which process and user that is using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
| 02:47.13 | Guerin | makes a hell of a mess in the pot |
| 02:47.15 | beardy | what's wrong with it ^^ |
| 02:47.15 | Roey | antgel_: I like earl grey tea with ginger and lots and lots of sugar. |
| 02:47.32 | Guerin | beardy: is |
| 02:47.32 | antgel_ | Roey: no but to me that seems more scottish / northern |
| 02:47.34 | Roey | antgel_: tea earl grey hot doesn't do it for me :) |
| 02:47.56 | Roey | Guerin: chai is tea + milk right? |
| 02:47.58 | Guerin | beardy: change to what's using it, or what are using it |
| 02:48.22 | Guerin | Roey: not strictly. It's tea brewed IN the milk, with spices. |
| 02:48.26 | Roey | h... ok. |
| 02:48.31 | Roey | never had that before. |
| 02:48.35 | antgel_ | mfrisch: they weren't necessarily FL girls. it was on a cruise from FL around the bahamas, cozumel etc |
| 02:48.49 | Roey | (gotta run out, BRB) |
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| 02:49.06 | antgel_ | i think they were white trash |
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| 02:49.17 | mfrisch | antgel yup |
| 02:49.30 | levander | if i have some partitions configured as options to be booted in my grub menu.lst, is grub supposed to hang on stage 1.5 if the disc the partitions are in aren't connected to my machine? e.g., hang before i even get the boot menu |
| 02:49.42 | Lilldude10 | hey laible |
| 02:49.48 | antgel_ | mfrisch: i wish they were here now, tell you that. they were fun :D |
| 02:50.12 | antgel_ | levander: afaik the boot menu should still load but that's a guess |
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| 02:52.49 | mfrisch | Bye ALL PEACE |
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| 02:53.10 | wu-wei | so, I can do apt-get install --reinstall <package> |
| 02:53.26 | antgel_ | if any sarge user wants to try a plone 2.1.1 / zope 2.8 backport i created, let me know. it's my first backport |
| 02:53.27 | wu-wei | but can I do that recursively, reinstall all deps for <package> |
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| 02:53.54 | Guerin | wu-wei: why do you think you need to? |
| 02:54.16 | wu-wei | I personally do not, this is for someone who wiped out /usr/X11R6/lib |
| 02:54.26 | beardy | Guerin: Thanks. Can't get it right though.. |
| 02:54.42 | Guerin | !reinstall |
| 02:54.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 02:54.52 | Guerin | wu-wei: amend that ^ to your needs |
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| 02:56.13 | wu-wei | thanks Guerin, I was hoping to avoid all packages, instead just grabbing those xorg depends on |
| 02:56.25 | Guerin | wu-wei: which you can do by amending the oneliner above |
| 02:56.35 | beardy | Guerin: Ah, there.. |
| 02:56.44 | beardy | !literal cmd: wiui (.*?) |
| 02:56.44 | dpkg | CMD: wiui (.*?) is ($1): <reply> $1: When trying to umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a certain thing, a device, a port, and so on, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' (as root) to see which process and user that's using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
| 02:56.49 | sparr_ | how can i tell which app has my ALSA sound input (mic) locked? |
| 02:56.58 | Guerin | wu-wei: hint: change /^[hi]i/ to something which selevts only the packages you want |
| 02:57.04 | wu-wei | oh, I got yah |
| 02:57.05 | wu-wei | thanks |
| 02:57.11 | beardy | Guerin: The "<reply> $1:" part.. |
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| 02:58.10 | beardy | sparr_: What dpkg said above. |
| 02:58.51 | beardy | sparr_: 'lsof /dev/nameofmicdevice' |
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| 02:59.26 | SerajewelKS | does netstat have a way to see, for unix socket output, what two processes are on the end of a socket? so i can see what programs are talking to what programs? |
| 02:59.34 | SerajewelKS | sorta like for IPv[46] with ips |
| 03:00.11 | sparr_ | beardy: what would the name be? |
| 03:00.50 | beardy | sparr_: Good question.. |
| 03:00.57 | beardy | sparr_: I don't know. |
| 03:01.01 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: netstat -natp |
| 03:01.56 | beardy | sparr_: If no one answers you here, try google, alsa mic /dev, or simillar, or ask in #alsa perhaps. |
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| 03:02.49 | findme | any one here |
| 03:02.55 | dondelelcaro | no. |
| 03:03.04 | wu-wei | just us bots |
| 03:03.15 | findme | :-) |
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| 03:03.28 | amd_goon | yes |
| 03:03.52 | antgel_ | wu-wei: who owns you |
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| 03:03.52 | wu-wei | dpkg is my master |
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| 03:04.00 | findme | apt-get is chief |
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| 03:04.34 | amd_goon | apt-cache search 'million dollars' |
| 03:04.51 | findme | apt-cache 'take million give peace' |
| 03:05.05 | sooo | books 4 free |
| 03:05.19 | wang | anyone familiar with getting debian to print to a printer connected to a windows box? |
| 03:05.25 | SerajewelKS | bahamat: read my question again |
| 03:05.48 | antgel_ | hmm. with my plone backport, when i do an aptitude install plone from the command line, it pulls in zope2.7. when i run aptitude interactively and + plone then g, it doesn't pull in zope2.7 (better). is this a bug? |
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| 03:06.02 | amd_goon | not familiar, but smb samba can do it |
| 03:06.05 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: ah, unix socket, I missed that part |
| 03:06.17 | findme | madwifi ro |
| 03:06.19 | findme | rox |
| 03:06.19 | wang | amd_goon : yeah, well I'm having problems adding the printer to this debian box |
| 03:06.20 | amd_goon | I've been told |
| 03:06.53 | SerajewelKS | does firefox proxy connect() requests to another process? like some gnome thing? a .so wrapper around connect() is picking up only a few connections to unix sockets... no network connections. |
| 03:07.08 | SerajewelKS | and an strace confirms that |
| 03:07.16 | SerajewelKS | but that doesn't tell me what the other process is |
| 03:07.20 | amd_goon | a friend was using ubuntu 5.10 and he said it worked |
| 03:07.22 | SerajewelKS | or who started it |
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| 03:07.58 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: how about netstat -xp? |
| 03:08.12 | amd_goon | not sure what version of windows though |
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| 03:08.45 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: nah, that only shows one process |
| 03:09.21 | zcot | ok i installed the desktop package.. now what :| |
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| 03:09.59 | antgel_ | !wayttd zcot |
| 03:10.00 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, zcot? |
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| 03:10.41 | findme | !luv |
| 03:10.41 | dpkg | somebody said luv was the Linux Users of Victoria, Inc. Victoria is a state of Australia (not as in Victoria, Canada). Meetings are usually held on the evening of the first Tuesday of the month. See http://www.luv.asn.au/ for more details. |
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| 03:11.10 | zcot | dpkg: I want to run in gui mode. I am a windows noob. |
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| 03:11.38 | findme | zcot, dpkg is a bot |
| 03:11.50 | zcot | findme: yes, and? |
| 03:11.55 | antgel_ | zcot: 1. dpkg is a bot. 2. you mean linux noob? do you have a login screen? |
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| 03:12.27 | antgel_ | !eps |
| 03:12.33 | findme | zcot, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:12.35 | beardy | sparr_: perhaps 'lsof /dev/snd/*' can give you a hint to which device the mic is, if something is using it..? |
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| 03:13.01 | amd_goon | zcot: what command did last use to install? or are u in aptitude? |
| 03:14.28 | zcot | I'v been following the installation guide. last thing I typed was reboot.. -it was after using aptitude to install the kde desktop |
| 03:14.58 | beardy | zcot: Did it really tell you to reboot? |
| 03:14.59 | antgel_ | zcot: i ask again. do you have a login screen? if so, is it text or graphical? |
| 03:15.01 | amd_goon | zcot: what do you see after rebooting? |
| 03:15.06 | zcot | also installed kdm since there didn't appear to be a way to get it going. |
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| 03:15.21 | zcot | i just have the commandline |
| 03:15.34 | zcot | no graphics I've seen so far. |
| 03:15.37 | selfcontr0l | m-a install alsa-source yields 'Version 1.x.x of alsa-modules-2.6.x.x is already install, skipping' What do I do next? |
| 03:15.44 | antgel_ | zcot: aptitude install x-window-system-core |
| 03:16.02 | bahamat | zcot: what type of video card do you have? |
| 03:16.04 | Guerin | x-window-system-core gdm xfce4 |
| 03:16.15 | zcot | antgel_: installing a desktop wont bring that in by dependency? |
| 03:16.17 | findme | if it is soundcore sound module how can I record from it? |
| 03:16.33 | bahamat | zcot: not necessarily |
| 03:16.40 | wang | anyone familiar with getting debian to print to a printer connected to a windows box? |
| 03:16.51 | beardy | !samba |
| 03:16.51 | dpkg | well, samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 03:16.51 | Guerin | wang: #samba |
| 03:16.52 | findme | wang, cups |
| 03:16.57 | Guerin | wang: or IPP |
| 03:17.02 | findme | Guerin, yo |
| 03:17.09 | bahamat | wang: yes, connect the printer to linux and use cups to serve to windows |
| 03:17.16 | wang | Guerin : how would the syntax go for adding an ipp address for a printer? |
| 03:17.22 | antgel_ | zcot: probably. did it ask you about X configuration? |
| 03:17.29 | zcot | no |
| 03:17.34 | antgel_ | zcot: try it |
| 03:17.38 | bahamat | wang: http://hostname:631/printers/printername |
| 03:17.48 | Guerin | wang: no fucking clue. |
| 03:17.51 | wang | ok, the port's always 631? |
| 03:18.00 | Guerin | bahamat: that doesn't 'add' it |
| 03:18.05 | bahamat | wang: unless you do something wild like change it |
| 03:18.15 | Guerin | that's just where the printer daemon should be listenign |
| 03:18.20 | bahamat | Guerin: you go through the add printer wizard and use that url |
| 03:18.34 | zcot | thanks guys.. ;) this isn't like knoppix |
| 03:18.36 | Guerin | if ipp it set up on the remote |
| 03:18.40 | wang | heh I have samba/smbclient/cups installed but when I go to the http://hostname:631 web admin page there are no ways of specifying samba that I notice |
| 03:18.51 | selfcontr0l | ls |
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| 03:18.54 | wang | but there is ipp/http |
| 03:19.01 | amd_goon | zcot: no but you'll learn more |
| 03:19.25 | SerajewelKS | anyone know if firefox is linked statically against libc? |
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| 03:19.30 | zcot | amd_goon: more than install gentoo as well it seems :/ |
| 03:19.37 | antgel_ | wang: perhaps you should read the excellent samba docs |
| 03:19.48 | amd_goon | zcot: you should likely know you specs for the monitor, you'll need them soon |
| 03:19.56 | SerajewelKS | because i've confirmed that somehow firefox is doing connect() and it's getting past my wrapper |
| 03:19.56 | Guerin | !depends mozilla-firefox |
| 03:19.57 | bahamat | wang: save yourself a lot of headache and connect the printer to linux |
| 03:20.05 | antgel_ | zcot: gentoo users think that by setting a compiler flag that they don't understand, they are learning |
| 03:20.06 | wang | bahamat : i can't find a driver for it |
| 03:20.10 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: depends on fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libidl0, libjpeg62, libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.2), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), ... |
| 03:20.17 | bahamat | wang: linuxprinting.org |
| 03:20.18 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: not the debian packages |
| 03:20.20 | zcot | i have all the hardware specs ready.. |
| 03:20.24 | wang | bahamat : bless you my child |
| 03:20.27 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) |
| 03:20.40 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: the mozilla.org binaries are |
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| 03:20.49 | selfcontr0l | m-a install alsa-source yields 'Version 1.x.x of alsa-modules-2.6.x.x is already install, skipping' What do I do next? |
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| 03:20.58 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: then how is firefox NOT using the connect() call and still connecting places? netstat confirms that the same firefox process that my wrapper reports to be running under is opening connections and they're not being caught by my wrapper. |
| 03:21.10 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: why do you need to build the modules from source? |
| 03:21.11 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: no idea. |
| 03:21.28 | selfcontr0l | my alsaconf is not detecting my soundcard |
| 03:21.31 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: some kind of static linking is the only thing that makes sense here =/ |
| 03:21.44 | selfcontr0l | i don't knwo what to do |
| 03:21.47 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: why do you need alsaconf? why don't you just modprobe the module? |
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| 03:22.00 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: and that's very likely if you downloaded it from mozilla.org |
| 03:22.03 | selfcontr0l | it's giving me a whole page of snd_xxxx stuff |
| 03:22.10 | selfcontr0l | errors |
| 03:22.10 | SerajewelKS | bahamat: except that i didn't |
| 03:22.25 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: that's not really much information |
| 03:22.31 | bahamat | SerajewelKS: not saying you did, just saying it's likely ;-) |
| 03:22.41 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: #firefox irc.mozilla.org |
| 03:22.45 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: good luck :) |
| 03:22.47 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: strace also confirms this: it's only connecting to unix sockets |
| 03:23.08 | selfcontr0l | modprobe snd-via82xx give "Module snd_via82xx not found" |
| 03:23.12 | selfcontr0l | with an _ instead of a - |
| 03:23.27 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: but netstat shows that it's open under that process. grr! |
| 03:23.28 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: uname -r? |
| 03:23.44 | selfcontr0l | 2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 03:23.51 | bahamat | selfcontr0l: that's not an error |
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| 03:24.26 | selfcontr0l | bahamat: well my sound card doesn't work and i was told that that is what i need to do to get it to work |
| 03:25.04 | bahamat | selfcontr0l: I meant the _ vs - thing, it's supposed to do that |
| 03:25.06 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name 'snd*via*ko' |
| 03:25.17 | bahamat | about the module not being found, I'm not commenting |
| 03:25.23 | wang | so the PPD file is the driver? |
| 03:25.32 | bahamat | wang: yes |
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| 03:25.37 | antgel_ | wang: it's all in the cups docs |
| 03:25.38 | Garda | hey guys. where can i get a list of debian mirrors for my sources.list |
| 03:26.03 | bahamat | wang: put it somewhere under /usr/share/cups/model, or something like that |
| 03:26.06 | antgel_ | !tell Garda about mirrors |
| 03:26.25 | bahamat | wang: I'm doing this all from memory, you should look around to find the correct place to put it |
| 03:27.03 | wang | well the directory exists lol |
| 03:27.12 | wang | so now just go through the normal routine for installing it? |
| 03:27.18 | subdefy | while attemping installing debian it refuses to mount the cdrom drive (it's ide) |
| 03:27.24 | selfcontr0l | /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/updates/alsa/pci/snd-via82xx.ko |
| 03:27.33 | spatulasnout | hi, in cloning my system to another drive, do i need copy /sys ? getting errors, and wondering if it's something that's automatically generated anyway? |
| 03:27.40 | selfcontr0l | and snd-via82xx-modem.ko |
| 03:27.59 | selfcontr0l | is a .ko file a module? |
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| 03:28.14 | selfcontr0l | if i delete it and rebuild it could that work? |
| 03:28.16 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: hmm. i don't know why it's in the updates directory. mine is in kernel/sound/pci |
| 03:28.34 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: yes and don't be in such a hurry to do stuff for no reason |
| 03:28.52 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: can you do insmod /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/updates/alsa/pci/snd-via82xx.ko? |
| 03:29.32 | selfcontr0l | error inserting module |
| 03:29.47 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: that's all? |
| 03:30.08 | selfcontr0l | a list of about 20 snd_ unknown symbols |
| 03:30.38 | selfcontr0l | and then the insmod: error inserting /lib....snd-via82xx.ko |
| 03:30.40 | nkuttler | lasta |
| 03:30.45 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: okay.. strace -f *does* show connect() |
| 03:31.08 | wang | heh even installing it locally doesn't work |
| 03:31.36 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: so now the question is why are the forks not getting caught by my wrapper even when the wrapper is installed on that pid |
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| 03:31.53 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: it may be dependent on other alsa modules. you could try a depmod -a then try the modprobe again, but it *should* work out of the box. i'm curious as to what this updates directory is |
| 03:32.04 | zcot | i installed the x-window-system-core.. and startx fails. -alot of "no symbols found" and I see the mouse failed too, it's a ps2 with a serial convertor plug |
| 03:32.26 | antgel_ | !tell zcot about drxx |
| 03:32.56 | zcot | oh nice :) |
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| 03:33.29 | amd_goon | zcot: did it configure your video device and monitor specs at least? |
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| 03:33.41 | zcot | yes |
| 03:33.43 | selfcontr0l | i used the apt-get to get all the alsa-source stuff and then i used module assistant to create the module...i may have screwed it up |
| 03:33.50 | selfcontr0l | (well that's obvious heh) |
| 03:34.20 | amd_goon | hmmmm |
| 03:34.25 | wang | The PPD |
| 03:34.32 | zcot | amd_goon: oh maybe not.. but it's asking now.. I just chose 800x600 |
| 03:34.35 | findme_ | selfcontr0l, its not hard just patience and follow the steps. |
| 03:34.37 | antgel_ | selfcontr0l: in that case, perhaps it's not in 2.6.8. i would be tempted to install 2.6.12 from unstable which works fine with sarge or even the 2.6.14 backport from www.backports.org/pending |
| 03:34.49 | wang | it says the driver is already installed, inconcievable |
| 03:35.58 | amd_goon | zcot: missing a header file or library, my guess |
| 03:36.15 | antgel_ | amd_goon: why? |
| 03:36.30 | selfcontr0l | ok...the m-a kept telling me a .deb file already existed (which i think i messed up the first time) so i'm recreating it with m-a a-b alsa-source and we'll see if it works this time |
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| 03:36.48 | tengulre | how to view space of a directory ? |
| 03:36.50 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: now the .so isn't even getting the unix socket connect()s WTF?!?! |
| 03:36.53 | amd_goon | the missing symbols part of his error |
| 03:36.54 | darkness_ | Is it possible to keep someone with ssh access to only have access to their folder and files. Is that something like chroot jail? |
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| 03:40.05 | crispexi | ~hire Phated |
| 03:40.06 | apt | ACTION hires Phated along with lakcaj as a McDonalds Floor Mopper, 3rd shift, at 7 loonies/hour to start |
| 03:40.09 | kingsley | darkness_: Have you considered setting file premissions with chmod (and chown?) |
| 03:40.18 | crispexi | ~date abrotman |
| 03:40.36 | antgel_ | !tell kingsley about unix lessons |
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| 03:40.57 | darkness_ | Kingsley, that would be alot of programs to change. |
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| 03:42.47 | spatulasnout | anyone know where the /sys directory comes from? is it generated by the installer? or by the kernel at boot time? or is it a special filesystem like /proc ? |
| 03:42.57 | SerajewelKS | hrm |
| 03:43.06 | SerajewelKS | my .so gets notified about close() but not about connect() |
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| 03:45.19 | mzilikazi64 | XS4-6096: CTRL+ALT+F1 |
| 03:45.22 | mzilikazi64 | F2 etc |
| 03:45.24 | eps | suggestions for a good dcpp (dc++) client? |
| 03:45.46 | XS4-6096 | mzilikazi64 thx |
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| 03:47.25 | zcot | I used aptitude to install the desktop package but didn't do any dpkg-reconfigure * -do I need to do some configuring for that package? |
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| 03:48.20 | antgel_ | zcot: it's a task, not a package strictly. it pulls in other packages. you only need to configure packages that need configuring! |
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| 03:49.39 | zcot | ok that makes sense.. i'm starting x then |
| 03:49.48 | wang | i don't understand why installing a usb printer could be this difficult! =) |
| 03:49.50 | zcot | oh nice.. ;) |
| 03:51.27 | kingsley | darkness_: Are you aware of "rssh", which is a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH? |
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| 03:51.58 | john | apt-get moo .. the choice of champions. |
| 03:52.05 | CountZ | someone's used an old awstats.pl to inject a lot of mail to be sent via my exim4, i've taken care of the security flaw, but how do I tell exim to dump all that mail and not send it? |
| 03:52.29 | ice1963 | what happened to the kernel-image-2.6.12-k7 in testing i can't get the nvidia driver to work ?? |
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| 03:52.47 | subdefy | I cannot mount my cdrom during the debian installation, it is an ide dvd-rom drive |
| 03:52.49 | subdefy | can anyone help? |
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| 03:53.13 | wang | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.13 | wang | Device URI: file:/dev/null |
| 03:53.15 | kingsley | subdefy: Do you see an error message? |
| 03:53.19 | wang | is that right? |
| 03:53.21 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: could some weird binary compatibility thing cause this? |
| 03:53.29 | subdefy | well kingsley: I've tried it on debian and got an error message |
| 03:53.32 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: like my .so's connect() and firefox's connect() not matching up? |
| 03:53.34 | subdefy | er gentoo |
| 03:53.51 | subdefy | but I was using the basic installer for debian, the gui |
| 03:53.52 | kingsley | subdefy: What's the exact error message? |
| 03:54.13 | subdefy | "could not find CD to boot something else needed" "Attemping to mount CD: - /dev/hdx(x) |
| 03:54.28 | subdefy | kept repeating the attemping to mount over and over with a variety of different variables each one it failed to find |
| 03:54.31 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: what's the problem? |
| 03:54.50 | kingsley | subdefy: Have you googled for that text string? |
| 03:54.57 | subdefy | eventually came to"the root block device is unspecified or not detected" |
| 03:55.00 | subdefy | yes |
| 03:55.07 | subdefy | I found it to be of no help as it applied to usb drives |
| 03:55.10 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: i've written an .so that wraps connect() and virtually everything works but firefox |
| 03:55.29 | kingsley | subdefy: How many hits are there for that string? |
| 03:55.30 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: my wrapper doesn't get called at all, though i've verified that it's installed on the firefox-bin pid doing the connect()s |
| 03:55.36 | predius_ | subdefy: udev? |
| 03:55.50 | subdefy | what is that? |
| 03:55.54 | subdefy | kingsley: how can I check? |
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| 03:56.02 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: firefox isn't doing any dlsym()s from this strace, so it's not *trying* to get around it |
| 03:56.05 | subdefy | I'm abit new to linux but I have used it in the past |
| 03:56.24 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: i get close()s though |
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| 03:56.45 | predius_ | subdefy: sarge, etch or sid? |
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| 03:56.58 | subdefy | sarge unofficial release amd64 |
| 03:57.06 | darkfires | is there mozilla 1.5 final deb's yet ? |
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| 03:57.12 | predius_ | darkfires: apt-get update |
| 03:57.14 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: so i'm completely baffled |
| 03:57.18 | kingsley | subdefy: Usually google finds more than one matching web page. How many web pages did google say contain the error message? Googles index page reports it toward the top. |
| 03:57.23 | predius_ | darkfires: apt-get install firefox |
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| 03:57.35 | subdefy | Results 1 - 10 of about 79,200 |
| 03:57.41 | deadcat | darkfires: no |
| 03:57.42 | subdefy | but after the first page or so it becomes irrelevent |
| 03:57.50 | darkfires | predius_: oh they changed the package name |
| 03:57.53 | predius_ | yeah |
| 03:57.58 | predius_ | darkfires: on unstable, right? |
| 03:57.59 | darkfires | ah |
| 03:58.02 | darkfires | nod |
| 03:58.05 | predius_ | yeah. |
| 03:58.09 | darkfires | well, that would explain it :) |
| 03:58.11 | darkfires | thanks. |
| 03:58.11 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: hrm... and firefox is actually using connect(), right? |
| 03:58.22 | predius_ | it will remove your mozilla-firefox, so don't worry |
| 03:58.27 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: according to strace, yes. |
| 03:58.31 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: and netstat -tnp |
| 03:58.41 | darkfires | awesome, thanks. |
| 03:58.43 | subdefy | hmm |
| 03:58.47 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: works find with mozilla =/ |
| 03:59.02 | stdoubt | Hello, could someone clue me on how to make a local package archive from all 14 CDs? section 6.4.11 of the Debian Reference doesn't address using CDs |
| 03:59.14 | kingsley | subdefy: Evidently many other people have had similar, and possibly the same, problem. I suggest narrowing your google search by adding keywords for your circumstances. For example, you could add "cd | cdrom" and install and debian. |
| 03:59.31 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: fine* of course |
| 03:59.44 | subdefy | alright I'll try that |
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| 04:00.17 | plean | Which of the debian CD's do I have to have to install the OS? There's 12 or 13 of them. Do I need them all? |
| 04:00.33 | Tortel | no |
| 04:00.37 | Tortel | only need the first |
| 04:00.42 | Tortel | and an internet connection |
| 04:00.43 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: only thing i can figure is that that part of firefox is statically compiled, but then how would strace show it? |
| 04:00.43 | stdoubt | plean: you can get a working system from 1 CD |
| 04:00.46 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: and you're getting close() like you said, right? is firefox actually calling connect? or is it calling __connect? |
| 04:00.46 | diana | plean: Just get the netinstall disc(100 megs) |
| 04:00.49 | dabaR | Hi. Is there a command can I use to find my sound card? lspci is not showing it. |
| 04:01.00 | plean | ok |
| 04:01.02 | plean | thanks |
| 04:01.08 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: yes, close() is called from what i can see. again, strace says connect(). |
| 04:01.12 | diana | dabaR: type "alsaconf" |
| 04:01.18 | diana | dabaR: What happens? |
| 04:01.31 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: [pid 3196] connect(42, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(111), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}, 16) = 0 |
| 04:01.32 | dabaR | I do not have that installed, I know for a fact. |
| 04:01.48 | zcot | ok great, at least I have a desktop now.. it makes me feel better :D if I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to choose the next higher resolution am I asking for trouble? |
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| 04:02.10 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: hrm... yeah, no idea; that all loosk fine, especially if you're seeing the close() already. |
| 04:02.17 | darkfires | predius_: k I just did that, and it installed 1.5rc3 |
| 04:02.23 | diana | dabaR: So run it...then type "alsamixer" to turn up your sound levels. |
| 04:02.34 | predius_ | darkfires: rc3 is the one they released |
| 04:02.36 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: tsocks doesn't work with firefox either, so it's not just my .so |
| 04:02.37 | dabaR | diana: thanks. |
| 04:02.44 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: firefox is definately doing something fishy |
| 04:03.10 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: probably time to put it through the debugger to see what exactly it's doing... |
| 04:03.25 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: debug firefox? are you insane? |
| 04:03.25 | darkfires | predius_: so there isn't a 1.5 final package yet then |
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| 04:03.40 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: it's not that insane. |
| 04:03.51 | predius_ | darkfires: they released rc3, withot changes. |
| 04:03.57 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: aside from the fact that i have no clue how to use a debugger to any real purpose aside from small programs i've written... |
| 04:03.57 | darkfires | oh |
| 04:04.07 | darkfires | ok i get you now |
| 04:04.25 | predius_ | yeah, mozilla released rc3 as the final release. |
| 04:04.35 | predius_ | so it just migrated from experimental afaik. |
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| 04:04.49 | zcot | i guess I should do that alsa stuff too.. and build a custom kernel for the sbawe? on other systems the old sbawe 64 isa-pnp card isn't auto detected. |
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| 04:05.24 | stdoubt | how can i make a local apt archive from CDs? Just cp /pool from each CD to a location? |
| 04:05.42 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: so basically i don't know what i'm doing, why i'm doing it, or how to do it when it comes to debugging |
| 04:05.49 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: heh |
| 04:05.52 | fusion | It's been a while since I used debian remotely, is there a way to begin a "reinstall" from ssh? |
| 04:06.02 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: yeah, unfortunatly, I'm not really an expert at that myself. Now... if it was perl... |
| 04:06.15 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: oh yeah, perl's debugger is teh roxorz |
| 04:06.16 | predius_ | fusion: debootstrap |
| 04:06.25 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: vorlon may be the person to bribe to help you out |
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| 04:06.33 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: if you can recommend a good gdb frontend and guide me i'll give it a shot though |
| 04:06.52 | wang | all these printer jobs are getting aborted, could it be a bad driver? |
| 04:07.01 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: emacs+gdb works fairly well; even better if you compile firefox with debugging symbols (which you'll need to do) |
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| 04:07.07 | zcot | thanks for the info guys.. I guess now I realize graphics is all about having the X11 system installed |
| 04:07.13 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: except i don't like emacs.. =/ |
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| 04:07.48 | kingsley | wang: When did they start aborting? |
| 04:07.57 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: ddd perhaps, or cgdb or... |
| 04:08.09 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: something stable and easy =) |
| 04:08.10 | fusion | predius_ thanks.. looking in apt I see cdebootstrap and debootstrap, do you recommend just bootstrap? its just a server and bootstrap is the "basic system" |
| 04:08.34 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: anyway i'm at that point where i might just use mozilla |
| 04:08.45 | dondelelcaro | fusion: use either cdebootstrap or debootstrap; either/or should work. |
| 04:08.53 | fusion | ok thanks |
| 04:08.59 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: what are you trying to do? |
| 04:09.15 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: think of it as zonealarm lite or something |
| 04:09.25 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: for every TCP connection that is not to 127.* you have to approve it |
| 04:09.36 | zcot | isa is what i meant.. |
| 04:09.50 | dondelelcaro | oh geebus |
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| 04:09.58 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: that's got to be freaking anoying |
| 04:10.10 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: for my purposes it's not |
| 04:10.19 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: why not just set up a firewall with marking? |
| 04:10.34 | dondelelcaro | and demand that applications proxy through 127.0.0.1? |
| 04:10.34 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: because that will get more than i want. i just want to limit it to one process. |
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| 04:10.53 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: what's this for? |
| 04:11.17 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: running security tests against things like java and flash |
| 04:11.23 | dondelelcaro | ah. |
| 04:11.30 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: see what they're doing |
| 04:11.33 | zcot | oh very nice, i see isapnp succeeds on booting.. maybe i wont need to mess with the kernel |
| 04:11.46 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: yeah, maybe just use mozilla then unless you want to invest the time. |
| 04:12.00 | dondelelcaro | (otherwise, have fun with gdb. ;-)) |
| 04:12.20 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: if i ever get to the point where it's a user-friendly as zonealarm, it might be fun to install it on your WM/desktopenvironment |
| 04:12.43 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: full user-space connection monitoring |
| 04:13.06 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: theoretically with an option to sniff the raw data coming from userspace |
| 04:13.22 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: at the stream-level of course |
| 04:14.01 | wobbler | SerajewelKS, you can pretty much do that with jnettop |
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| 04:14.31 | SerajewelKS | wobbler: doesn't that have to be run as root? |
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| 04:14.53 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: so will yours if you want it to sniff data |
| 04:14.54 | sfullenwider | anybody know how to get thunderbird to use firefox instead of mozilla for it's browser? |
| 04:14.59 | wobbler | yeap but it can be set to run as user |
| 04:15.04 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: no, not "sniff" in that sense |
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| 04:15.21 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: like i said, it would work at the stream level. capturing read() and write() calls and the like. |
| 04:15.54 | Tortel | gnome? |
| 04:15.57 | Tortel | kde? |
| 04:16.01 | Tortel | other? |
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| 04:16.07 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: so you could even run it from a shell server where you don't have root and see what one of your programs is saying |
| 04:16.17 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: i see. |
| 04:16.22 | Fluten | when i login to my newly installed system, it asks me to change the root password, and it does this every time |
| 04:16.28 | Fluten | how can i disable this? |
| 04:16.39 | Tortel | enter a password? |
| 04:16.50 | Tortel | change the pass when your loged in? |
| 04:16.51 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: first step is getting it working with all programs (e.g. firefox) though |
| 04:16.57 | Fluten | Tortel, i enter a password, and it bugs me the next time i log in |
| 04:17.00 | aeronadix | how do you identify on irc? |
| 04:17.07 | stew | aeronadix: /msg nickserv help |
| 04:17.12 | SerajewelKS | aeronadix: /quote nickserv ident <password> |
| 04:17.22 | aeronadix | thx |
| 04:17.22 | Tortel | Fluten: Tried changing it when your loged on? |
| 04:17.47 | stew | Fluten: have you been mucking about in /etc/pam.d? |
| 04:17.52 | Fluten | stew, no |
| 04:18.20 | sfullenwider | Debian, ysing wcfe |
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| 04:18.32 | sfullenwider | er xfce |
| 04:18.56 | sfullenwider | during the selection thing I selected Debian |
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| 04:19.17 | Fluten | in #debianppc, they think the install didnt complete fully, so ill try reinstalling |
| 04:19.18 | Fluten | thankyou |
| 04:20.05 | stew | Fluten: does either "dpkg --configure -a" or "apt-get -f isntall" think that things are left undone? |
| 04:20.20 | Fluten | no |
| 04:20.22 | stew | ^isntall^install |
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| 04:20.49 | sfullenwider | tortel: I selected Debian when I installed thunderbird, I use xfce as my wm |
| 04:21.12 | Fluten | im off to bed, will work on the problem some more tommorow |
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| 04:21.39 | Tortel | cant help then, I have gnome |
| 04:21.47 | sfullenwider | How do you do it in gnome? |
| 04:21.48 | Tortel | and 2/3 asleep |
| 04:21.55 | sfullenwider | mebbe I can get some ideas |
| 04:22.21 | Diggity | anyone know of a DVD to AVI (or DivX) convertion tool? |
| 04:22.28 | Tortel | there is a option under Apps/Desktop prefrences/Advanced/Perfered Applications |
| 04:22.37 | sfullenwider | Diggity: mencoder. |
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| 04:22.58 | Diggity | sfullenwider - cheers |
| 04:22.59 | predius_ | Diggity: acidrip |
| 04:23.09 | Diggity | predius - cool |
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| 04:23.28 | predius_ | Diggity: I don't thing it is in the archive. |
| 04:23.31 | tai | if i create software raid in linux can i install windows on it as well? |
| 04:23.31 | predius_ | try marillat |
| 04:23.32 | Diggity | what about the other way AVI to DVD same ? |
| 04:23.43 | predius_ | you need an enconder for that |
| 04:23.46 | Guerin | tai: no |
| 04:23.50 | predius_ | ffmpeg or mencoder |
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| 04:24.19 | madradrone | tai: get a cheap hardware raid card... |
| 04:24.35 | tai | anybody get dmraid running with an lanparty ultra d sata 2 |
| 04:25.02 | sfullenwider | After about two weeks of fighting that war Diggity, I went with mencoder, despite the insane amount of options it will pretty much do anything dvd/avi/etc video format related, 'cept burn dvds...for that youll need cdrecord |
| 04:25.03 | Diggity | thanks guys - you've all been heaps of help as usual =) |
| 04:25.24 | zcot | Diggity: vlc might be handy for you.. |
| 04:25.43 | Diggity | zcot - what is vlc? |
| 04:25.52 | predius_ | videolan client |
| 04:25.54 | zcot | videolan.org |
| 04:25.57 | predius_ | a good media player |
| 04:26.22 | predius_ | Diggity: it allows you to encode and send through network |
| 04:26.25 | predius_ | and cool stuff |
| 04:26.27 | predius_ | try it. |
| 04:26.45 | Diggity | sfullenwider - yeah its been a bloody battle |
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| 04:27.12 | Guerin | there still is no one media player to rule them all |
| 04:27.13 | raden | has anyone messed with clustering ? |
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| 04:27.23 | positron| | how can i see what my computer is doing when it suddenly starts to write something to disk and to use cpu? |
| 04:27.50 | predius_ | Guerin: mplayer :) |
| 04:27.54 | Guerin | vlc doesn't play some clips as well as mplayer, which doesn't play some clips as well as xine, and mplayer doesn't play some mp4 clips at all, and xine doesn't play x264 properly, and ... |
| 04:27.56 | diana | yea, mplayer > * |
| 04:27.58 | Guerin | predius_: nope. |
| 04:27.59 | Supaplex | top, ps, lsof, stuff |
| 04:28.00 | stew | heh, dennis leary is on the tv and he just !sang g4lt |
| 04:28.13 | stdoubt | positron|: top |
| 04:28.22 | Guerin | try playing mp4-container x264 video files with ac3 audio |
| 04:28.23 | diana | mplayer is so simple easy to use...everything just works. |
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| 04:28.40 | Guerin | mplayer freaks, but tries - xine just crashes, vlc plays it fine |
| 04:28.41 | diana | When I want to play a dvd I just type, "mplayer -fs dvd:// -slang en -dvd-device /dev/hdc" |
| 04:28.43 | madradrone | stew: i thought he died a while ago |
| 04:28.51 | positron| | thanks |
| 04:29.15 | Guerin | then there are some windows media clipes which vlc won't play at all, mplayer plays blocky and slow, and xine plays perfectly |
| 04:29.22 | diana | I've never had mplayer "freak"...it always "just works" |
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| 04:29.34 | Guerin | diana: you clearly don't play a wide variety of clips, then. |
| 04:29.34 | stew | !sing g4lt |
| 04:29.35 | dpkg | sometimes he p4rks in h4ndic4pped sp4ces, while h4ndic4pped people m4ke h4ndic4pped f4ces, g4lt's 4n 4ssshoooole... |
| 04:29.39 | madradrone | Guerin: the web becomes less and less non-windoze friendly... |
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| 04:29.45 | Guerin | madradrone: yeah. |
| 04:29.52 | diana | Guerin: I only play mpeg-2 or xvid |
| 04:29.55 | Supaplex | while :;do tail /dev/zero&done;wait |
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| 04:30.02 | stdoubt | how can i make a local apt archive from CDs? |
| 04:30.10 | Guerin | diana: well, no shit it always works, then. Any media player would. |
| 04:30.30 | Guerin | sfullenwider: heh |
| 04:30.37 | zcot | i'm partial to vlc.. coming from windows ;) oh mplayer is good on windows too. vlc-0.8.4 came out earlier this week |
| 04:30.45 | ohad | does anyone know where i can find an apt-get source for kde3.5? (testing?) |
| 04:30.49 | stew | madradrone: you must be thinking of timmothy leary |
| 04:30.55 | Supaplex | sfullenwider 2>/dev/null # yay, it doesn't whine now... :) |
| 04:30.58 | Tortel | urg |
| 04:31.04 | Tortel | qwertyuio[ |
| 04:31.06 | Tortel | o[ |
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| 04:31.14 | Guerin | ohad: no. |
| 04:31.16 | Tortel | the letter in between that isnt working |
| 04:31.18 | Tortel | :| |
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| 04:31.33 | Tortel | i cant tye it |
| 04:31.37 | Lorian | !ntfs |
| 04:31.37 | dpkg | somebody said ntfs was Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 04:31.39 | Tortel | gah, see? |
| 04:31.40 | Tenkawa | Any of you running Debian on a Athlon 64 X2? |
| 04:31.42 | sfullenwider | Tortel: p? |
| 04:31.44 | madradrone | stew: oh, yes.. |
| 04:31.45 | zcot | Guerin: yea.. same.. not sure why 0.8.4 didn't have alot of the newer 0.8.5 stuff :/ |
| 04:31.50 | ohad | i tried to use this one - deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5-rc1 ./ -- but it removed most of my kde pkgs. now i can't install kdebase :/ |
| 04:31.54 | Tortel | Yes, that one! |
| 04:31.55 | Tortel | :D |
| 04:31.58 | ohad | Guerin, nothing?:) |
| 04:32.05 | Guerin | ohad: nothing. |
| 04:32.07 | deadcat | HAHAHAHHAHAHA |
| 04:32.27 | Guerin | !tranquilise deadcat |
| 04:32.36 | Tortel | sfullenwider Tortel: p? <=-Yea that key is dead |
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| 04:33.17 | Tortel | its like fucked |
| 04:33.51 | Guerin | i love the internet being global |
| 04:33.59 | sfullenwider | Tortel: THat's what you get for having firefox run instead of mozilla or epiphany in thunderfox. |
| 04:34.00 | Tortel | ye |
| 04:34.17 | Tortel | but now my key is borked! |
| 04:34.22 | Tortel | its imortant! |
| 04:34.26 | Tortel | gah |
| 04:34.33 | Tortel | now i cant wn |
| 04:34.37 | Tortel | *wn |
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| 04:34.39 | Tortel | own |
| 04:34.46 | Guerin | i live in korea, I have root on machines in the US and NZ and here; my domains and dns are handled in france, I have email accounts in the US, NZ, germany and china |
| 04:34.52 | Guerin | and this is all basically accidental |
| 04:34.59 | Diggity | brb reboot |
| 04:35.11 | sfullenwider | Potential problems probably Tortel.. Possibly you could Purchase a new keyboard. |
| 04:35.14 | Tortel | woot |
| 04:35.21 | predius_ | :O |
| 04:35.22 | Tortel | I can pwn again! |
| 04:35.23 | Tortel | :D |
| 04:35.24 | predius_ | he rebooted! |
| 04:35.34 | Guerin | predius_: but WHY? |
| 04:35.50 | Tortel | odd tho |
| 04:35.54 | Tortel | ppppppp |
| 04:35.56 | Tortel | :) |
| 04:36.20 | zcot | what is it? alsa-conf? then alsamixer? |
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| 04:36.30 | Tortel | yep |
| 04:37.51 | zcot | a pro would use aptitude install sys-sound/alsa or something? |
| 04:38.02 | deadcat | sure |
| 04:38.43 | raden | anyone know a process manager for clustering ? |
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| 04:39.23 | predius_ | raden: apt-cache search cluster |
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| 04:40.08 | zcot | hmm scary.. is there a way to get the typical alsa stuff installed in 1 step? i see alot of alsa packages |
| 04:40.47 | predius_ | zcot: alsa-tools and alsa-utils? |
| 04:41.01 | wang | woot got my printer installed =) |
| 04:41.11 | Dian___ | wang: congrats |
| 04:41.15 | predius_ | wang: nice, wanna install mine? :) |
| 04:41.16 | wang | tnx |
| 04:41.22 | wang | hell no |
| 04:41.24 | wang | haha |
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| 04:43.15 | raden | predius_, time to install debian LOL |
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| 04:43.21 | andre80 | hi hi |
| 04:43.33 | zcot | don't see any alsa-tools.. there's alsa-utils, base, modules, oss.. alsamixergui? is that the typical ncurses looking app? |
| 04:43.46 | predius_ | raden: http://packages.debian.org , check the packages there |
| 04:43.50 | predius_ | look for cluster |
| 04:43.58 | andre80 | I need to compile kaffeine 0.7.1 and create a .deb archive, how ? |
| 04:44.04 | raden | predius_, thanks |
| 04:44.23 | raden | i want to be able to compile large source files quickly |
| 04:44.34 | predius_ | andre80: checkinstall |
| 04:45.06 | wang | i'd like to make my debian box the print server for my network, how do i begin that or does anyone have documentation to recommend |
| 04:45.13 | andre80 | checkinstall ? |
| 04:45.43 | predius_ | andre80: gives you the option of creating a deb, rpm or a tgz |
| 04:45.44 | raden | wang is it just a linux network ? |
| 04:45.46 | eps | grr no one can browse my smb shares from windows without putting in a un/pw (I have browsing enabled and everything) ... I just want it so that people can go //computer/share and be able to read/write to it |
| 04:46.11 | raden | wang, ? |
| 04:46.25 | wang | raden: yes? |
| 04:46.29 | wang | oh |
| 04:46.29 | wang | no |
| 04:46.30 | wang | hehe |
| 04:46.31 | wang | sorry |
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| 04:46.32 | raden | just linux or lin & win ? |
| 04:46.38 | predius_ | wang: cups + samba |
| 04:46.41 | wang | windows and samba installed on this box |
| 04:46.44 | andre80 | ok i install it |
| 04:46.47 | raden | what predius_ said |
| 04:46.56 | raden | what printer ? |
| 04:46.58 | wang | do i need to make any special configuration in the samba config? |
| 04:47.16 | wang | hp 1315 all in 1 + waffle iron |
| 04:47.38 | ViViD | can anyone tell my why my slave drive isnt showing up? |
| 04:47.44 | wang | ViViD : not mounted? |
| 04:47.54 | predius_ | wang: google :) |
| 04:48.03 | ViViD | do i have to mount it everytime manually? |
| 04:48.04 | wang | alright |
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| 04:48.14 | ViViD | youd think the system would mount it at boot |
| 04:48.15 | wang | ViViD : no find it's mounting point and make an entry in /etc/fstab |
| 04:48.23 | predius_ | ViViD: added your drive to fstab? |
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| 04:48.41 | ViViD | predius_, what would its mounting point be? |
| 04:48.53 | predius_ | ViViD: what you want it to be |
| 04:48.55 | Guerin | ok, so i transferred a domain from one registrar to another recently - the new reg says the transfer completed successfully, and the whois record has been updated to show that. The old reg sent me an email saying the transfer had been cancelled because I didn't fax them some bit o' paper, and still has an account open for that domain, with DIFFERENT whois data. |
| 04:48.58 | g3tsh|ghwit|hisC | damn |
| 04:49.01 | g3tsh|ghwit|hisC | opps |
| 04:49.06 | Lilldude10 | whast a goot ftp clinet |
| 04:49.12 | g3tsh|ghwit|hisC | sry rong network |
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| 04:49.18 | madradrone | Lilldude10: ncftp or lftp |
| 04:49.27 | predius_ | Lilldude10: gftp |
| 04:49.27 | Lilldude10 | ok |
| 04:49.30 | madradrone | Lilldude10: or even wget |
| 04:49.31 | wang | predius_ : it's going to look something like this in fstab: /dev/hdb1 /store ext3 defaults |
| 04:49.34 | wang | oops |
| 04:49.38 | predius_ | heh |
| 04:49.38 | wang | ViViD that's to you |
| 04:49.40 | Guerin | once a domain has been transferred, and a registrar has updated whois and sorted it all out with ICANN, can the old reg take the registry back? |
| 04:49.50 | wang | "heh" |
| 04:50.06 | ViViD | i dont know...what the hell should i mount it to |
| 04:50.22 | Lilldude10 | ty |
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| 04:50.29 | wang | ViViD : you can mount it to ~/disneyland, it doesn't matter |
| 04:51.01 | ViViD | would it get more use if i mount it under my home directory? |
| 04:51.13 | thma | I have a networking question google is failing to assist enough with |
| 04:51.17 | wang | ... |
| 04:51.28 | wang | ViViD : are you the only one using it? |
| 04:51.36 | wang | can someone check out /dev/hdb1 /store ext3 defaults |
| 04:51.37 | wang | oops |
| 04:51.38 | ViViD | yea |
| 04:51.38 | wang | shit |
| 04:51.46 | thma | I have a 3c905b-txnm NIC I am running a clean install of 3.1r0a |
| 04:51.59 | astronut | is there a generic 'camera' protocol besides UMS? |
| 04:52.02 | ViViD | use the same options as my root drive right |
| 04:52.10 | wang | can someone check out http://media.putfile.com/Lady-Goes-Crazy-on-Trading-Spouses and tell me what I need to install to view that? is that some sort of mplayer plugin? |
| 04:52.16 | predius_ | ViViD: paste your fstab in pastebin.ca |
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| 04:52.25 | predius_ | wang: you can modify it from there, easier. |
| 04:52.36 | daemonTED | hi. i am trying to use wine. apon attempting to create a "c:" i get the error "err:winecfg:apply_drive_changes unable to define devicename of 'C:', targetpath of '../drive_c'". does anyone have any advice on this matter? |
| 04:52.39 | Alias_ | Hi, if I was looking for someone to package a program, what would be involved |
| 04:52.48 | wang | i'll try to install mozilla-mplayer and see if it works ok |
| 04:52.51 | Alias_ | We have a RHEL/Fedora packager for the project, but no debian packager |
| 04:52.53 | predius_ | daemonTED: there is a c drive already |
| 04:53.05 | predius_ | Alias_: what program? |
| 04:53.19 | thma | During install it failed to find NIC and load module i tried to tell it to load 3c59x becasue that is what looked right to me. But that failed to work properly, so i told it no network card |
| 04:53.21 | ViViD | http://pastebin.ca/32194 |
| 04:53.24 | predius_ | daemonTED: .wine/drive_c |
| 04:53.35 | Alias_ | predius_: OOOConversionServer. It's the server half of a Microsoft Office plugin to make it support OpenDocument |
| 04:53.50 | Alias_ | http://p3.phase-n.com/ |
| 04:54.06 | wang | hmm that mplayer plugin did the trick if anyone cares |
| 04:54.09 | thma | after install i tried insmod 3c59x and got a no such device |
| 04:54.22 | Alias_ | err |
| 04:54.24 | predius_ | does anyone else here have xinerama? |
| 04:54.26 | predius_ | Alias_: not found |
| 04:54.27 | Alias_ | http://o3.phase-n.com/ |
| 04:54.30 | daemonTED | predius_: after installing wine, there wasn't one. i tried creating it with winecfg, and also tried creating the directory manually. haven't had any luck yet |
| 04:54.30 | Alias_ | miskey |
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| 04:54.49 | predius_ | daemonTED: try reinstalling it, I guess. |
| 04:54.52 | predius_ | it should be there. |
| 04:54.54 | thma | I tired modprobe 3c59x and got no such device |
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| 04:55.00 | predius_ | where did you install it from? |
| 04:55.06 | daemonTED | predius_: okay, thanks. will do :) |
| 04:55.51 | zcot | after alsaconf goes ok, then alsamixer function snd_ctl_open failed - no such device. do i need to reboot? copy a module to the kernel? start something maybe? O_O |
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| 04:56.04 | thma | should i be looking for something in dmesg? or what? |
| 04:56.27 | letrix | hi@all |
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| 04:56.45 | GregorR | Hmm - is there any way to verify that a bug report went through (with the bugreport command)? I'm not confident, since it gave me a funky error (should've copied it, the buffer's gone now :( ) |
| 04:56.51 | daemonTED | i installed wine through deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/ |
| 04:57.03 | letrix | i have a question |
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| 04:57.20 | predius_ | daemonTED: it is on the official archive. |
| 04:57.28 | lk30 | buenas noches |
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| 04:57.32 | predius_ | daemonTED: try getting it from there |
| 04:57.33 | predius_ | noches |
| 04:57.37 | lk30 | tengo dos conexiones a interner |
| 04:57.37 | lk30 | <lk30> lan eth0 y ADSL1 eth1 ADSL2 eth2 |
| 04:57.37 | lk30 | <lk30> en la lan tengo eth0 y eth0:0 |
| 04:57.37 | lk30 | <lk30> quiero eth0 salga por eth1 |
| 04:57.37 | lk30 | <lk30> y eth0.0 por eth2 |
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| 04:57.44 | daemonTED | hmm, okay. thanks again |
| 04:58.13 | g3tsh|ghwit|hisC | |V\oNK hey guys, im trying to tell exactly when in the sequance of starting services in the rc#.d/'s my nic is funcional? |
| 04:58.13 | g3tsh|ghwit|hisC | |V\oNK im trying to tell which gets my nic working |
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| 04:58.19 | predius_ | lk30: #debian-es |
| 04:58.26 | Alias_ | predius_, So to restate the original question, what would be the best idea for trying to find a debian packager? |
| 04:58.40 | lk30 | help |
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| 04:59.23 | |V\oNK | acan anyone help me? *points up* |
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| 04:59.25 | GregorR | lk30: El canal por discusión de Debian en Español es #debian-es . |
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| 04:59.35 | lk30 | pero nadie sabe |
| 04:59.50 | BruceLeeRoy | does anyone know if there are linmodem drivers available for Agere v.92 modems |
| 05:00.00 | Tortel | !w00t |
| 05:00.00 | dpkg | w00t!!! |
| 05:00.03 | Tortel | :D |
| 05:00.17 | Tortel | !I love you |
| 05:00.17 | dpkg | The feeling's not mutual |
| 05:00.19 | Tortel | :( |
| 05:00.20 | thma | BruceLeeRoy i remeber seeing them somewhere |
| 05:00.32 | BruceLeeRoy | hmmm, thanks |
| 05:00.33 | GregorR | lk30: Nosotros (en #debian) no hablamos Español, y no hablo mucho. |
| 05:00.45 | BruceLeeRoy | any recommendations for caller ID software? |
| 05:00.48 | thma | when i was on dialup and looking into modem emulation |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | tengo dos conexiones a interner |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | lan eth0 y ADSL1 eth1 ADSL2 eth2 |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | en la lan tengo eth0 y eth0:0 |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | quiero eth0 salga por eth1 |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | y eth0.0 por eth2 |
| 05:00.51 | lk30 | ???? |
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| 05:00.54 | letrix | i have a problem with configuartion firewall under debian 3.1 can her help me ? |
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| 05:01.08 | thma | BruceLeeRoy: I cannot suggest any |
| 05:01.11 | predius_ | lk30: iptables. |
| 05:01.16 | predius_ | busca en google |
| 05:01.20 | Tortel | !ask to ask |
| 05:01.20 | dpkg | Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to phrase your question, ask me about <ask>. |
| 05:01.22 | lk30 | ya busque |
| 05:01.24 | BruceLeeRoy | I found Marina but dont know if its any good |
| 05:01.28 | lk30 | tengo 4 dias |
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| 05:01.32 | lk30 | dia y noche |
| 05:01.38 | letrix | is a german debian channel here ? |
| 05:01.46 | thma | !ask load module for device not found |
| 05:01.46 | letrix | my english not so good |
| 05:01.50 | wang | lk30: tu necessita ayuda en #debian-sp |
| 05:01.54 | predius_ | lk30: #debian-de |
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| 05:02.00 | predius_ | wang: debian-es |
| 05:02.05 | letrix | i can only school english |
| 05:02.06 | wang | oh |
| 05:02.15 | BruceLeeRoy | you can teach English? |
| 05:02.16 | wang | lk30: lo siento, #debian-es |
| 05:02.17 | predius_ | eh, letrix, debian-de |
| 05:02.23 | letrix | ok |
| 05:02.25 | lk30 | ok |
| 05:02.27 | letrix | danke |
| 05:02.28 | onegin | i c |
| 05:02.30 | andre80 | I upgraded some of my package, now I cannot install some package from my debian dvd, how to revert it back ? |
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| 05:02.38 | predius_ | erm, I'm getting confused. |
| 05:02.52 | onegin | Dont upgrade |
| 05:03.31 | andre80 | i already upgraded, can I revert it back ? |
| 05:03.32 | predius_ | andre80: uninstall the package and install it from the dvd? |
| 05:03.44 | vikasg | the debian maintainer guide talks about dh_make, but I can't find it in either debhelper or the debmake packages |
| 05:03.53 | andre80 | zlib1g has a lot dependency |
| 05:04.01 | wang | how do I need to configure samba to show a printer on this debian box as a network printer so i can print from a windows machine? |
| 05:04.03 | predius_ | vikasg: dh-make |
| 05:04.21 | vikasg | predius_ thanks |
| 05:04.23 | predius_ | wang: #samba? :) |
| 05:04.40 | wang | it's dead in there |
| 05:04.53 | ViViD | whats the difference between ext2 and ext3? |
| 05:04.53 | rvalles | I disabled xdm on rc levels... and after an upgrade, it came back |
| 05:05.06 | rvalles | how can I disable xdm permanently in a debian-friendly way? |
| 05:05.10 | andre80 | ViViD, the journal |
| 05:05.14 | thma | ViVid: journaling |
| 05:05.15 | vikasg | ViViD ext3 adds journalling |
| 05:05.19 | onegin | Just upgrad the packagefile without configure file. |
| 05:05.20 | ViViD | whats that? |
| 05:05.37 | deadcat | journaling |
| 05:05.44 | thma | kinda like a backup of incase of emergency i believe but dont quote me |
| 05:05.47 | ViViD | i hope its no big deal, cuz parted for stable doesnt support ext3 |
| 05:05.56 | deadcat | !cuz |
| 05:05.56 | dpkg | from memory, cuz is you mean because?, or an affectionate name for your cousin (or cousin, according to dvs). |
| 05:06.03 | vikasg | ViViD the filesystem can be restored to a sane state even if you pull the plug |
| 05:06.10 | thma | i use rfs |
| 05:06.17 | ViViD | so journaling is a restoring feature |
| 05:06.28 | deadcat | i use pfs |
| 05:06.38 | ViViD | whats pfs? |
| 05:06.38 | SerajewelKS | ViViD: for most purposes, ext2 == ext3, so parted might be able to deal with ext3 too |
| 05:06.39 | wang | what's webmin? |
| 05:06.45 | predius_ | ViViD: asj dpkg :) |
| 05:06.48 | predius_ | dpkg: journaling |
| 05:06.48 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. slow but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. medium speed, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use ext3, or see http://fsbench.netnation.com/ |
| 05:06.48 | onegin | bake up the configuration,remove it and install newer version one. |
| 05:06.52 | deadcat | wang: apt-cache show webmin |
| 05:07.27 | onegin | apt-cache search is more infomation than aptitude search |
| 05:07.47 | ViViD | whats up with xfs? |
| 05:08.07 | deadcat | ViViD: dont know |
| 05:08.19 | predius_ | ViViD: I believe it has a large journal. |
| 05:08.32 | onegin | google it |
| 05:08.33 | thma | any suggestion on my NIc and its modules? |
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| 05:08.48 | Diggity | mencoder looking good - also found konverter (front end tool to make my life easier..) very nice indeed |
| 05:09.07 | Diggity | exit |
| 05:09.09 | ViViD | what options should i use for a slave drive? same as master? |
| 05:09.23 | raden | if i run 2 monitors in KDE can i assign one monitor to a desktop ? like assign my second monitor to desktop #2 ? |
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| 05:09.48 | predius_ | raden: why would you do that? |
| 05:10.46 | predius_ | raden: /msg dpkg xinerama |
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| 05:11.25 | SerajewelKS | raden: with two different X configs i *think* you can |
| 05:11.38 | SerajewelKS | raden: but xinerama is a better option |
| 05:11.47 | onegin | i c the msg for raden |
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| 05:13.00 | predius_ | SerajewelKS: x acts like if you had two xservers running without xinerama. |
| 05:13.06 | andre80 | !xinerama |
| 05:13.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, xinerama is where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 has it!, or http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html |
| 05:13.07 | wang | where are webmin html files stored |
| 05:13.19 | predius_ | yiu can't pass windows through, but the mouse foes. |
| 05:13.20 | predius_ | *does |
| 05:13.24 | Guerin | wang: dpkg -L webmin |grep html |
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| 05:14.01 | wang | no return |
| 05:14.09 | wang | heh i've never dealt with such bullshit just to print |
| 05:14.28 | Diggity | what output setting should i use if i want to convert a file to DVD ? RawDV? |
| 05:14.34 | andre80 | I have succeeded in downgrading the package |
| 05:14.42 | Guerin | wang: since webmin is a bunch of cgi, i'd say it generates html on the fly, rather than using static pages |
| 05:14.50 | Guerin | Diggity: doom9.org |
| 05:15.03 | Guerin | Diggity: this is so far offtopic in #debian it isn't really funny |
| 05:15.28 | predius_ | Diggity: mpeg4? |
| 05:15.36 | Diggity | Guerin - if you were watching the previous topic it kinda is |
| 05:15.51 | Diggity | predius - yeah i thought as much |
| 05:16.07 | Guerin | Diggity: no, it's not |
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| 05:16.34 | wang | why would this windows box not be able to see the printer connected to this linux box? |
| 05:16.35 | andre80 | I m configuring kaffeine, it asks for libXext, I already installed it and the dev pakage but the configure script cannot detect it, I already opened the script and found that $kde_cv_has_libXext = "no", any suggestion ? |
| 05:17.01 | Diggity | Guerin - was taking about an experimental debian package called mencoder |
| 05:17.15 | Guerin | Diggity: mencoder is in debian!!!???1 |
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| 05:17.30 | Diggity | Guerin - great so its on topic |
| 05:17.37 | Guerin | Diggity: that was a question |
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| 05:17.51 | Guerin | IF it's in debian, then it's ontopic |
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| 05:18.07 | Guerin | but i'm pretty sure it ain't, and it hasn't been for *YEARS* |
| 05:18.14 | thma | my NIC is in a debian machine but i am having issues |
| 05:18.23 | predius_ | Guerin: there's no ontopic on #debian-peru |
| 05:18.28 | predius_ | #debian |
| 05:18.35 | |V\oNK | i have a question, ... how can i make iptables use my script and start at boot? |
| 05:18.37 | Guerin | predius_: go to #debian-peru then |
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| 05:19.03 | predius_ | Guerin: #debian |
| 05:19.15 | predius_ | I just have it first in irssi, and it got filled first :) |
| 05:19.19 | Guerin | |V\oNK: an iptables script? add it to /etc/network/interfaces as an 'up' command |
| 05:19.39 | Guerin | predius_: #debian does have a topic, even if it's not strictly adhered to |
| 05:19.59 | beefcake | anyone know how to make a process utilize cpu1 |
| 05:20.02 | Guerin | predius_: at all, ever, by anyone, including me |
| 05:20.02 | beefcake | as oppose to cpu0 |
| 05:20.10 | beefcake | i am running some shit on this box but it seems nothing is using cpu1 |
| 05:20.14 | beefcake | all gets put on cpu0 |
| 05:20.30 | predius_ | Guerin: yeah, mencoder is not in debian, so you have a point |
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| 05:21.37 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 05:21.38 | dpkg | Since Sat Dec 3 05:21:16 2005, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 21s this session, and currently reference 26493 factoids. I'm using about 13396 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2.91/0.14 child 0/0.01 |
| 05:22.00 | wang | wow webmin is neat |
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| 05:22.51 | stdoubt | beefcake: show us your 'uname -a' |
| 05:22.51 | dondelelcaro | gag. |
| 05:22.54 | dondelelcaro | !webmin |
| 05:22.55 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives ... |
| 05:22.56 | Guerin | wang: for values of neat = crap |
| 05:23.14 | wang | Guerin : i like pepsi |
| 05:23.24 | Guerin | wang: no accounting for taste |
| 05:23.31 | dondelelcaro | argh. I've broken the length crappiness again. |
| 05:23.42 | beefcake | stdoubt? |
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| 05:24.04 | stdoubt | beefcake: run uname -a -whats the output say? |
| 05:24.07 | beefcake | Linux cs 2.6.6 #1 SMP Tue May 18 01:49:54 CEST 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
| 05:24.31 | stdoubt | hmm... so you do have SMP |
| 05:24.55 | stdoubt | can't help more than that :\ |
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| 05:25.00 | beefcake | yeah it shows both cpu's in top |
| 05:25.06 | beefcake | but all the processes get thrown on 1 |
| 05:25.07 | beefcake | :x |
| 05:25.30 | ViViD | sweet i got it mounted as ext3 |
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| 05:27.24 | succubus- | hey, where is the grub config file located? |
| 05:27.38 | predius_ | succubus-: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 05:27.41 | vikasg | succubus- /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 05:28.06 | thma | could i just get something to google for my situation |
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| 05:29.57 | succubus- | wow, i'm stupid. |
| 05:30.00 | succubus- | thanks |
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| 05:31.07 | stdoubt | thma: what's your NICs problem? |
| 05:31.08 | rvalles | I disabled xdm on rc levels... and after an upgrade, it came back. How can I disable xdm permanently in a debian-friendly way? |
| 05:31.21 | vikasg | rvalles try update-rc.d |
| 05:31.28 | thma | ty |
| 05:31.32 | cheal | rvalles: what did you do exactly? |
| 05:31.33 | andre80 | beefcake, perhaps the load balance will use cpu1 if cpu0 has reached a certain percentage of usage |
| 05:31.42 | thma | 3c905b can t load mosule for it |
| 05:31.52 | rvalles | cheal: I just got rid of the link in rc2.d ... |
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| 05:32.04 | thma | i tried the 3c59x module |
| 05:32.14 | thma | but it say no device found |
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| 05:32.42 | pc11 | hai |
| 05:32.43 | cheal | rvalles: I thought that was OK, but using update-rc.d can't be worst |
| 05:32.46 | beefcake | andre80: it doesnt |
| 05:32.52 | beefcake | im maxing out cpu0 24/7 |
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| 05:33.07 | The | ok |
| 05:33.19 | The | HAO ARE YOU ANYWANTS |
| 05:33.33 | The | AAAA |
| 05:33.33 | The | A |
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| 05:33.38 | stdoubt | thma: run this at command line: cat /boot/config-X.X.X | grep 3C59 ( XXX is your config version) |
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| 05:33.41 | rvalles | thma: my 3c905B works fine with 3c59x |
| 05:33.42 | dondelelcaro | !webmin |
| 05:33.42 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 05:33.45 | dondelelcaro | much better... |
| 05:33.47 | andre80 | I have this error : error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure |
| 05:33.49 | andre80 | can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find |
| 05:33.49 | andre80 | them either. any suggestion ? |
| 05:33.53 | rulesnut | how do I restart sshd |
| 05:34.02 | vikasg | rulesnut /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 05:34.06 | rulesnut | ty |
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| 05:35.22 | alder_ | holaaaaa |
| 05:35.29 | dondelelcaro | andre80: do you have libxext-dev installed? |
| 05:35.34 | stdoubt | andre: did you try editing the script to say "$kde_cv_has_libXext = "yes" (warning: this idea is a shot in the dark) |
| 05:35.37 | cheal | dondelelcaro: heh, "any browser that supports tables and forms"? :) |
| 05:35.57 | andre80 | dondelelcaro, yes I have |
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| 05:36.19 | dondelelcaro | andre80: then give us the config.log from the affected program; what exactly are you trying to build? |
| 05:36.54 | andre80 | kaffeine 0.7.1 |
| 05:37.25 | andre80 | how to give you the config.log ? |
| 05:37.36 | predius_ | andre80: backporting? |
| 05:37.42 | predius_ | I see it's in unstable |
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| 05:38.24 | andre80 | sarge has 0.6.1, but 0.6.1 is not enough for me, so I tried compiling 0.7.1 |
| 05:38.38 | dondelelcaro | andre80: do a backport of 0.7.1 then... |
| 05:38.42 | dondelelcaro | !simple sid backport |
| 05:38.42 | dpkg | simple sid backport is probably 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
| 05:38.47 | andre80 | how to do a backport ? |
| 05:39.10 | thma | stdoubt: nothing found |
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| 05:39.52 | stdoubt | thma: then looks like the driver 'module' is not in your kernel to be insmoded |
| 05:40.05 | predius_ | andre80: read what dpkg said |
| 05:40.16 | thma | so how do i do taht |
| 05:40.31 | stdoubt | thma: someone a while back suggested trying to load a different module for it |
| 05:40.37 | thma | there is a 3c59x.o file somewhere in system |
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| 05:41.25 | thma | rvalles told me he uses the 3c59x module for his 3c505b also |
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| 05:41.26 | stdoubt | thma: if the module is not compiled into your kernel as a module "=m" or built in "=y", then you need to recompile and add it |
| 05:41.34 | thma | ok |
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| 05:41.42 | andre80 | ok |
| 05:41.50 | thma | ill read on recompiliong kernel |
| 05:42.01 | olczyk | There is rpmfind.net to find rpms opf packages is there a similar thing for deb packages? |
| 05:42.12 | stdoubt | thma: it's not too hard just do it the debian way ;] |
| 05:42.21 | dondelelcaro | olczyk: most things are already packaged in Debian, when not, google. |
| 05:42.31 | dondelelcaro | olczyk: if you want backports, apt-get.org or backportgs.org |
| 05:42.33 | dondelelcaro | s/gs/s/ |
| 05:43.25 | thma | i like debian form using simplymepis but now i want the real thing |
| 05:43.59 | stdoubt | thma: see section 7.1 of the Debian Reference for Kernel stuff |
| 05:44.03 | dondelelcaro | thma: 3c59x should be loaded automatically by the installer; if not, and you're using the debian kernel, simply modprobe it or use modconf to do that. |
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| 05:45.20 | thma | modprobe says ther is no device |
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| 05:45.37 | predius_ | thma: can you paste that line? |
| 05:45.50 | dondelelcaro | thma: can you give us the output of lspci? |
| 05:46.00 | kimchi | how can i make postgre sql postmaster from starting on boot? i changed S to K in the runlevel 5 |
| 05:46.06 | kimchi | but it still start |
| 05:46.07 | kimchi | s |
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| 05:46.30 | thma | how do i figure out module parameters? |
| 05:46.31 | dondelelcaro | kimchi: debian uses runlevel 2 by default. |
| 05:46.43 | thma | let me pastebin lspci |
| 05:46.51 | dondelelcaro | thma: you shouldn't need them unless you're using an ISA card (which you're almost certainly not) |
| 05:46.54 | thma | umm cant not on network on the debian maching |
| 05:47.00 | thma | pci |
| 05:47.19 | dondelelcaro | thma: you can sneakernet it, or shoot a picture of the screen with a camera, or type it in by hand... |
| 05:47.23 | vikasg | kimchi simply use update-rc.d |
| 05:47.23 | andre80 | dondelelcaro, i already solved the problem, i haven't installed the kde-devel |
| 05:47.38 | thma | the whole lspci? |
| 05:47.51 | dondelelcaro | thma: well, if you know exactly which one is your network card, that's good enough. |
| 05:48.07 | thma | its a 3com 3c905b-txnm |
| 05:48.16 | thma | fast etherlink xl pci |
| 05:48.24 | dondelelcaro | thma: yes, but I want to see the lspci output... |
| 05:48.31 | thma | ok |
| 05:49.04 | stdoubt | dondelelcaro: might mean his lsmod output? |
| 05:49.12 | andre80 | why debian don't have gmake ? |
| 05:49.22 | dondelelcaro | andre80: gmake is gnu make, which is the only make we have. |
| 05:49.43 | andre80 | oh so the make is equal to gmake ? |
| 05:50.07 | kimchi | vikasg:thnks |
| 05:50.07 | vikasg | andre80 yes |
| 05:50.18 | andre80 | ok got it |
| 05:50.19 | kimchi | dondelelcaro, thnx |
| 05:50.20 | dondelelcaro | andre80: on systems which have a busted proprietary make, gnu make is called gmake. |
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| 05:50.53 | wang | this is ri-fucking-diculous |
| 05:51.00 | andre80 | ah and all these years I used those system that has the busted make |
| 05:51.36 | thma | dondelelcaro: all lspci comes up with is host, isa, and pci bridges; host bridge for northboard: usb, audio, ide,vga, firewire, and unknown storage (sata) nothing ot do with either NIC |
| 05:51.37 | dondelelcaro | andre80: in any case, you shouldn't care about that. Backport the 0.71 packages from unstable. |
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| 05:52.02 | thma | it all works under simply mepis |
| 05:52.03 | dondelelcaro | thma: uh... then your nic doesn't appear to be plugged into that machine, or you've got something else weird going on. |
| 05:52.14 | thma | see above |
| 05:52.19 | dondelelcaro | thma: you should see something like this: 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) |
| 05:52.24 | thma | nope |
| 05:52.32 | thma | not under debian |
| 05:52.39 | andre80 | ow, i haven't searched for the sid url |
| 05:52.55 | thma | want me to boot off simplymepis and post its lspci? |
| 05:53.03 | dondelelcaro | thma: well, then it's almost certainly not plugged in; you can try. |
| 05:54.19 | dondelelcaro | andre80: http://archimedes.ucr.edu/ss/kaffeine_0.7.1-1.3_i386.deb |
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| 05:54.29 | andre80 | woohoo thanks |
| 05:55.28 | mdg_wk | can anyone suggest a commandline newsgroup reader? |
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| 05:56.36 | dondelelcaro | mdg_wk: trn, nn... emacs+gnus... |
| 05:56.57 | mdg_wk | Thanks dondelelcaro |
| 05:57.41 | andre80 | i gotta go, need to fix my car, thanks for everything |
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| 06:01.22 | thma | dondelcaro: put SimplyMepis in; "shutdown -r now" ; booted SM under Normal; logged into KDE under ROOT; "lspci > thma_lscpi"; copied context of thma_lspci to pastebin/447018 |
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| 06:03.17 | thma | dondelelcaro: it looks that same as debian's there isnt a NIC in there but i got on pastbin |
| 06:03.33 | thma | w/o any issues |
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| 06:04.53 | wang | why can i not print to this printer |
| 06:05.14 | stdoubt | thma: have you tried disabling your "nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)" in your BIOS? |
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| 06:05.46 | thma | no its a gigibti with issues and i was hoping i could fix issue but i could try disabling it |
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| 06:06.11 | vikasg | root! |
| 06:06.29 | stdoubt | thma: what's the model name of your NIC -like Marvell, or Cyclone?? |
| 06:07.38 | thma | you blocked my mesasges |
| 06:07.43 | thma | lemme look |
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| 06:09.01 | stdoubt | thma: i don't get it= is your pastebin from simplymepis or debian? |
| 06:09.34 | thma | SM |
| 06:09.53 | stdoubt | and your PCI 3com NIC works?! |
| 06:10.01 | stdoubt | under SM? |
| 06:10.18 | thma | yes w/o issue |
| 06:10.32 | thma | dont have to do anything |
| 06:10.59 | thma | and i did nothing unususal to 2 debain installs and it didnt fine either nic |
| 06:11.11 | stdoubt | that's really odd since the NICs not listed by SMs lspci.... |
| 06:11.32 | thma | I know, but that is wher i have it hooked up |
| 06:11.34 | dondelelcaro | thma: uh... that's because you have a Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2) <-- nvidia ethernet controller, not a 3com one. |
| 06:11.39 | thma | it = lan |
| 06:11.52 | thma | no nvidia is onboard |
| 06:12.00 | thma | i have a pci in there also |
| 06:12.08 | stdoubt | isn't the nVidia CK8S an ONBOARD NIC? |
| 06:12.10 | stdoubt | k |
| 06:12.32 | stdoubt | thma: so what after all, is the model name of the pci nic? |
| 06:12.37 | dondelelcaro | thma: well, if you do, that's not what is being detected. |
| 06:12.48 | thma | HHHmmm I am stupid |
| 06:13.10 | stdoubt | how so |
| 06:13.13 | thma | i some how connected cat5 to onboard i didnt want that |
| 06:13.21 | stdoubt | hehe oi |
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| 06:13.43 | thma | lemme try w/o cat5 on pci which i cant read label w/o tering it out |
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| 06:15.06 | olczyk | Hey, I'm looking for a package liblame-dev any idea where I can find it? |
| 06:15.07 | ohad | i am running testing, is it true that sid/unstable is better then it used to be before? wasn't sid unupdated for a long time? |
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| 06:15.27 | ltx | hi, i've got a debian box set up with some samba shares, every try to browse a samba share, there is a 10-15 second delay before the authentication window pops up...any thoughts on how to get rid of the long delay? |
| 06:15.37 | ohad | i'm thinking about upgrading and wanted to know if i should upgrade to sid:/ |
| 06:15.39 | wang | ltx: i get the same |
| 06:15.46 | ltx | the physical network isn't the problem |
| 06:16.05 | cddesjar | ohad: sid is updated daily |
| 06:16.13 | ltx | wang: i remember a friend of mine telling me a while back that he remedied this issue possibly changing some netbios settings |
| 06:16.18 | ltx | but i can't remember the exact details |
| 06:16.33 | klys | clczyk: unstalbe has it: pool/main/l/lame/liblame-dev_3.96.1-1_i386.deb |
| 06:16.38 | wang | hm well if you find out let me know |
| 06:16.48 | ltx | would this question be better suited for the samba channel? |
| 06:16.53 | wang | no |
| 06:16.54 | ohad | cddesjar, do you suggest to update from testing to unstable? |
| 06:16.56 | wang | that channel is dead |
| 06:17.10 | wang | i've been trying to get samba help all night with network printing, no dice |
| 06:17.11 | Gnea | !dbugs 325188 |
| 06:17.11 | wang | hehe |
| 06:17.14 | dpkg | #325188:I[libflash-mozplugin] libflash-mozplugin: firefox pops off; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:33:14 UTC |
| 06:17.20 | ltx | hmm, ok, any good place to chat about samba? |
| 06:17.23 | cddesjar | ohad: do you like it when thinks sometimes break? and do you like tinkering with your syste |
| 06:17.27 | cddesjar | m |
| 06:17.28 | wang | not that i know of |
| 06:17.32 | Gnea | ltx: #samba |
| 06:17.44 | wang | heh |
| 06:17.50 | ltx | Gnea: joined it about 10 min ago...nobody talking or responding |
| 06:17.53 | Gnea | it's worked for me |
| 06:17.56 | cddesjar | ohad: i've run sid before though..it's not to bad |
| 06:18.01 | Gnea | ltx: yeah, it takes awhile |
| 06:18.02 | cddesjar | ohad: make sure you install apt-listbugs |
| 06:18.09 | cddesjar | !tell ohad about apt-listbugs |
| 06:18.20 | ohad | cddesjar, i just tried to install kde3.5. it broke. i thought that by upgrading to unstable things might work better |
| 06:18.41 | ltx | wang: what is your printing problem? |
| 06:18.42 | cddesjar | ohad: doubtful :) |
| 06:18.42 | Gnea | damn, the new firefox 1.5 is broken |
| 06:18.51 | cddesjar | Gnea: not on backports.org |
| 06:19.09 | ohad | cddesjar, so i should stay with testing.. |
| 06:19.29 | cddesjar | ohad: i would...once you go sid you can't go back without reformatting |
| 06:19.33 | Gnea | cddesjar: i'm using it from sid (firefox package) the shockwave flash only plays sound, no video - and the auto-completion is botched |
| 06:19.42 | cddesjar | ohad: but a lot of people use it |
| 06:19.58 | Gnea | ohad: it's pure crap right now, don't |
| 06:20.04 | ohad | cddesjar, when trying to install kde3.4 (apt-get install kdebase/kdelibs/kde-core) i get all these dependencies.. |
| 06:20.10 | cddesjar | Gnea: hmm...i have sound and video with 1.5rc3 which is available at backports.org |
| 06:20.18 | cddesjar | ohad: yeah |
| 06:20.36 | Gnea | cddesjar: yeah well... Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-2 |
| 06:20.44 | ohad | Gnea, what is pure crap rightnow? |
| 06:20.47 | wang | god i fucking hate this |
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| 06:20.50 | cddesjar | Gnea: yeah that's the one i'm running |
| 06:20.51 | Gnea | ohad: unstable/sid |
| 06:20.55 | ohad | cddesjar, what do you suggest i do? |
| 06:21.00 | stew | !flw46 is <ohad>...i thought that by upgrading to unstable things might work better |
| 06:21.00 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 06:21.05 | Gnea | cddesjar: i got this straight off of apt |
| 06:21.06 | cddesjar | ohad: do you mean testing or sid? |
| 06:21.18 | bucky | ltx: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832161/EN-US/ |
| 06:21.22 | Gnea | stew: *cackle* |
| 06:21.40 | ohad | cddesjar, nope. with install kdebase/kdelibs/kde-core |
| 06:21.46 | cddesjar | you want kde3.4? |
| 06:21.50 | ohad | cddesjar, ? |
| 06:21.54 | cddesjar | ohad: apt-get install kde3.4 |
| 06:21.57 | wang | why can i not print to a shared printer from windows to debian or from debian to windows. i have cups/samba installed etc. |
| 06:22.30 | Gnea | wang: cuz you didn't set it up right. |
| 06:22.37 | ohad | cddesjar, i install 3.5, then i removed it and now when i try to install 3.4 i get all these pkgs that are dependcies.. |
| 06:22.39 | wang | why can i not print to a shared printer from windows to debian or from debian to windows. i have cups/samba installed etc. |
| 06:22.55 | cddesjar | ohad: yes i believe so |
| 06:22.58 | ltx | configuring samba is a real bitch |
| 06:23.14 | Gnea | ltx: it sure is! have you not used swat? |
| 06:23.14 | cddesjar | wang: don't repeat the same question...once is enough! |
| 06:23.19 | wang | do it, god forbid you be helpful Gnea |
| 06:23.22 | ohad | cddesjar, what ? i don't understand.. |
| 06:23.22 | wang | heh |
| 06:23.28 | Gnea | god? |
| 06:23.31 | thma | ok so 3com is dead or funny |
| 06:23.37 | cddesjar | ohad: oh i see |
| 06:23.39 | ltx | cddesjar: i asked wang to repeat the problem |
| 06:23.40 | ohad | cddesjar, is there a way to install 3.4? |
| 06:23.40 | wang | i've been trying to do this for literally for 5 hours |
| 06:23.53 | wang | more actually. |
| 06:24.00 | Gnea | wang: well repeating isn't going to get you anywhere. and i didn't know. |
| 06:24.01 | thma | how do i go about gettin gth eck8s going there were no modules for it in debian menu |
| 06:24.13 | cddesjar | ohad: you need to fully remove kde3.5 |
| 06:24.24 | ohad | cddesjar, how do i do that? do you know? |
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| 06:24.26 | cddesjar | ohad: apt-get remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 --purge |
| 06:24.29 | wang | Gnea : repeating might get the attention of someone who wants to help. |
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| 06:24.34 | Gnea | wang: but i've done it before simply by googling and following a howto... maybe it was on www.tldp.org |
| 06:24.40 | cddesjar | ohad: then apt-get install kde3.5 |
| 06:24.42 | cddesjar | ohad: then apt-get install kde3.4 |
| 06:24.46 | cddesjar | 3.4 not 3.5 |
| 06:24.53 | Gnea | wang: that's not the way it works here. |
| 06:25.04 | ltx | wang, if you want some help, you need to give a bit more detailed info on the problem..."it wont work" isn't enough for anyone to troubleshoot |
| 06:25.22 | wang | ltx: lol? |
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| 06:25.28 | Gnea | yeah really |
| 06:25.28 | ohad | cddesjar, it can't find pkg kde3.4 |
| 06:25.40 | cddesjar | ohad: did it find kdelibs3? |
| 06:25.53 | ohad | cddesjar, i already removed those pkgs |
| 06:25.58 | cddesjar | ohad: where do your repos look? |
| 06:26.05 | Gnea | wang: i just started typing, which means i just started paying attention to the channel. i can just ignore it and go do something else without giving a goddamn if you get it fixed tonight or not. |
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| 06:26.40 | ohad | cddesjar, repo? |
| 06:26.42 | wang | i'd rather you do that then give me stupid answers |
| 06:26.49 | cddesjar | sources? |
| 06:26.50 | ohad | cddesjar, apt/sources.list? |
| 06:27.01 | Gnea | wang: but, i'm a nice guy and prefer to not get into such discussions, so it'll end now and you'll start to provide something useful so we can work together or you simply won't get helped. |
| 06:27.09 | thma | ok i'll google it forst |
| 06:27.14 | thma | night and thx |
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| 06:27.30 | Gnea | wang: it's obviously you really don't need the help then. |
| 06:27.32 | wang | nice non-working url btw |
| 06:27.56 | ohad | cddesjar, deb http://lug.mtu.edu/debian/ testing main |
| 06:28.00 | Gnea | tldp.org doesn't work? |
| 06:28.09 | Gnea | man, you DO have problems |
| 06:28.18 | wang | sorry i'm just flustered that it's taking this much crap to set up a simple shared printer |
| 06:28.20 | Gnea | comes right up for me |
| 06:28.48 | vikasg | wang maybe step back and try later? |
| 06:28.51 | Gnea | wang: then why don't you back away from the keyboard, stand up, and go do something else to refresh your head for awhile then come back to it? |
| 06:29.13 | Gnea | wang: it's not worth getting all worked up like that :) |
| 06:29.31 | wang | heh |
| 06:29.49 | ohad | cddesjar, if i try apt-get install kdebase/kdelibs/kde-core -- apt-get install kde Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 06:29.53 | Gnea | seriously, go make a pizza or something ;) |
| 06:30.03 | zcot | where can I get pnpdump? |
| 06:30.19 | klys | isapnptools |
| 06:30.28 | wang | i hate samba, why do i need to use samba to make the linux box a print server |
| 06:30.52 | stdoubt | wang: cuz you have winderz boxen |
| 06:30.59 | Gnea | wang: cuz you don't wanna buy more printers for each machine |
| 06:31.10 | wang | so there's no other way? |
| 06:31.11 | wang | wtf |
| 06:31.21 | zcot | klys: ok thank you :) |
| 06:31.22 | wang | what about with the windows box being the server |
| 06:31.27 | klys | zcont: np |
| 06:31.31 | klys | nerp |
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| 06:31.35 | Gnea | that could work too |
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| 06:31.38 | Coweater | find a cups client for windows |
| 06:32.04 | Coweater | not sure if those exist though |
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| 06:32.49 | klys | adobe's site has a print driver for postscript printing over a network. then use apsfilter |
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| 06:33.51 | Gnea | wang: can you get to thise site: http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/Samba-HOWTO-Collection-3.0-PrintingChapter-11th-draft.html |
| 06:35.14 | Gnea | wang: or better yet... |
| 06:35.16 | Gnea | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html |
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| 06:35.18 | Gnea | come ON! |
| 06:35.27 | ohad | how do i resolve dependy of pkgs? i am trying to install kdebase and keeps getting dependencies error.. |
| 06:35.33 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 06:35.34 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 06:35.40 | dondelelcaro | ohad: follow the directions above. |
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| 06:36.26 | ohad | dondelelcaro, i already posted it above |
| 06:36.36 | ohad | dondelelcaro, i'll post it again |
| 06:36.43 | Gnea | wang: the one at tldp.org is the one that i followed and got to work |
| 06:36.45 | dondelelcaro | ohad: that's not the full output... |
| 06:37.35 | Gnea | wang: the only thing i had to do that wasn't mentioned was installing the printer on the wintendo boxen first, then plugging it back onto the samba server (that way the printer drivers are already installed) |
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| 06:37.52 | ohad | dondelelcaro, i think i will need to go to #flood for that :/ |
| 06:37.55 | bucky | wang: this is a little old but it should work and it's shorter http://homex.subnet.at/~max/comp-10_cups.php |
| 06:38.06 | ohad | dondelelcaro, would you care to take a pick? |
| 06:38.14 | ohad | sorry a peek:/ |
| 06:38.19 | Docteh | gah where do I got to change settings for firefox |
| 06:38.31 | dondelelcaro | ohad: I'm already there... |
| 06:38.33 | Docteh | config:settings or something :( |
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| 06:38.47 | stew | Docteh: about:config |
| 06:38.49 | Docteh | thanks |
| 06:39.18 | klys | anyone heard of pubsub ? |
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| 06:41.02 | dondelelcaro | ohad: right, and what is the apt-cache policy kate; output? what happens when you apt-get install kate; ? |
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| 06:43.21 | netman1 | I want a package unable to be overwritten/upgraded by any new version. I know about 'echo package hold|dpkg --set-selections' and '/etc/apt/preferences : Package \ Pin \ Priority', but those are local enforcements. Is there any centrally enforced one? |
| 06:43.50 | dondelelcaro | netman1: uh... that's machine wide. If you want it central, make your own mirror, and set your sources.list on all machines to that mirror. |
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| 06:44.08 | dip | what is the best interface for building a firewall? |
| 06:44.42 | netman1 | dondelelcar: Yes, I did, but it's an apt-proxy of /debian plus my own local /debian-local. |
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| 06:44.59 | netman1 | dip: firestarter |
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| 06:45.31 | dondelelcaro | netman1: apt-proxy isn't enough of your own mirror; that just stores copies locally. If you want to centrally control something, you need your own mirror to do so. |
| 06:46.48 | dip | *What is the best iptables GUI configuration tool? |
| 06:46.57 | dondelelcaro | netman1: alternatively, if it's just a single package that you want to control, you can (often) recompile it with a very large epoch so that it will always be more recent that the most recent package that debian ships. |
| 06:47.08 | netman1 | dondelelcaro: Yes, so I did: i mirror an official proxy in /debian and keep my own packages in /debian-local ad mention both in sources.list |
| 06:47.22 | netman1 | dip: firestarter |
| 06:47.42 | liable | dip: for a gui look at gaurddog or firestarter, a good text config file one is shorewall |
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| 06:48.08 | Belboz99 | hey all |
| 06:48.17 | dondelelcaro | netman1: apt-proxy just proxies debian's own repository; it won't implement the type of control that I'm talking about. |
| 06:48.19 | stew | dip: fwbuilder is nice for developing a script locally that will be deployed somewhere else |
| 06:49.10 | Belboz99 | I goofed, I acidentally overwrorte the rc.d file. I thought it was a directory, and I tried moving a script into it. But since it was a file I overwrote it. Anyone got an original I can use to restore it? |
| 06:49.19 | netman1 | dondelelcaro: I know, so I want to overrule my mirror's settings from my debian-local's package. |
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| 06:49.38 | knite | what's the difference between cdebootstrap and plain debootstrap? |
| 06:49.54 | dondelelcaro | knite: one is written in c, the otherone isn't; they do fairly similar jobs. |
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| 06:50.40 | kingsley | Belboz99: Have you considered re-installing the package containing the rc.d file? |
| 06:50.47 | madradrone | Belboz99: "apt-get install --reinstall" the package |
| 06:50.49 | knite | I want to put together a debian system on a usb drive. i guess either way will do... |
| 06:51.02 | dondelelcaro | knite: yes, either/or will work. |
| 06:51.17 | Belboz99 | thanks madradone! |
| 06:51.44 | madradrone | Belboz99: thank apt-get not me! |
| 06:52.09 | Belboz99 | madradrone, which package is it? |
| 06:52.24 | subdefy | debian won't mount the cd rom drive during startup |
| 06:52.31 | subdefy | anyone got any ideas? |
| 06:52.45 | vikasg | subdefy why would you want to do that? |
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| 06:53.10 | subdefy | well I'm trying to install it |
| 06:53.21 | knite | subdefy: what kind of drive? internal ie? |
| 06:53.27 | knite | subdefy: IDE, i mean |
| 06:53.28 | subdefy | internal ide |
| 06:53.29 | subdefy | yes |
| 06:53.30 | Belboz99 | madradrone: rcconf? |
| 06:53.51 | knite | subdefy: which version debian? |
| 06:54.13 | subdefy | 3.1r0a a64 |
| 06:54.18 | zcot | hmmp.. I think I have the old isa-pnp sbawe card configured right, but the boot process is not catching it. any docs on this issue? |
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| 06:55.47 | kingsley | subdefy: Are you still trying to install debian and getting the error message "ould not find CD to boot something else needed" "Attemping to mount CD: - /dev/hdx(x)"? |
| 06:55.52 | madradrone | zcot: isapnpconf; apt-get install alsa-base; alsaconfig |
| 06:55.53 | subdefy | yes |
| 06:55.57 | subdefy | I was searching google |
| 06:56.00 | subdefy | and I could find no conclusion |
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| 06:56.24 | subdefy | all I found were solutions for gentoo |
| 06:56.29 | kingsley | subdefy: Is the copy of debian that you're trying to install on a CD or CDs? |
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| 06:56.29 | subdefy | but I rather install debian |
| 06:56.35 | subdefy | it is a cd |
| 06:56.37 | subdefy | or rather a dvd |
| 06:56.40 | bucky | subdefy: amd64 ? |
| 06:56.42 | subdefy | but burned as a cd |
| 06:56.43 | subdefy | yes amd64 |
| 06:57.07 | bucky | subdefy: have you asked in #debian-amd64 ...they might know the answer right off |
| 06:57.19 | zcot | madradrone: done.. but then alsamixer fails with snd_ctl_open: no such device. |
| 06:57.21 | subdefy | I didn't even know the channel existed |
| 06:57.21 | subdefy | thanks |
| 06:57.28 | klys | zcot: make sure your bios has the right irqs available to pnp |
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| 06:58.21 | madradrone | zcot: maybe you need to allocate an IRQ to the ISA in your BIOS setup? |
| 06:58.32 | knite | I just noticed that dpkg (the bot) is giving old information when you ask it about "install" |
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| 06:58.48 | dondelelcaro | knite: for which factoid? |
| 06:58.56 | dondelelcaro | !install |
| 06:58.56 | madradrone | zcot: usually one like 7, 5, or sometimes 9 i think |
| 06:58.56 | dpkg | methinks install is To test sarge (upcoming Debian 3.1) see <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/>. For woody (Debian 3.0), see http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html or the official guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/woody - see the tips at http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/tips or http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 06:59.02 | madradrone | zcot: and dma also |
| 06:59.13 | zcot | klys: ahh. not sure what you mean on that, but pretty sure it's ok.. gentoo had picked it up after isapnpconf; apt-get install alsa-base; alsaconfig; alsamixer session.. |
| 06:59.18 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, install is <reply> see install debian |
| 06:59.18 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 06:59.23 | zcot | oh and something about the kernel i guess :/ |
| 06:59.24 | knite | need to s/sarge/etch/ etc |
| 06:59.43 | predius_ | dondelelcaro: is the bot made by you? |
| 06:59.55 | klys | zcot: /etc/init.d/isapnp should use /etc/isapnp.conf |
| 06:59.57 | dondelelcaro | predius_: I control it and have patched it, but I didn't write it originally. |
| 07:00.09 | predius_ | ah, ok. |
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| 07:00.30 | madradrone | zcot: doesn't matter. it will "pick it up" but listen to us: you still need to allocate IRQ in bios |
| 07:00.35 | predius_ | yeah, it's fixed now. |
| 07:00.35 | klys | zcot: are you using alsa? |
| 07:00.54 | zcot | ok.. yes alsa |
| 07:01.09 | madradrone | zcot: "legacy isa" option or something like that |
| 07:01.13 | zcot | believe i selected the oss module as well |
| 07:01.21 | zcot | ok lemme dig in the bios |
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| 07:01.39 | aisa | hi an |
| 07:01.54 | aisa | storyahanay ta n |
| 07:02.42 | harryl | my powersupply fan keeps stopping after X screensaver comes on wont turn back on |
| 07:02.45 | kingsley | subdefy: I have never heard of burning a DVD as a CD. Unless you are sure that it works, I'm wondering if you should try reading the CD/DVD on a running computer. |
| 07:02.46 | zcot | I uncommented those types of settings in the isapnp.conf of course.. who knows if I selected the right choices :/ |
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| 07:03.13 | aisa | dugaya imo rply oi |
| 07:03.16 | selfcontr0l | ok i just followed all the instructions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian and successfully compiled(?) a new module from alsa-source and i got "Module /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver processed fine" NOW what do i do? |
| 07:03.21 | zcot | ok the pci/isa bios pnp thingy there.. same as what I uncommented.. irq5 dma0 and 1 to legacy isa |
| 07:03.21 | subdefy | kingsley: it boots into the program itself |
| 07:03.21 | an-an | hay ad ka karon...........joke |
| 07:03.27 | subdefy | it can load up the splash image of debian and gentoo |
| 07:03.29 | predius_ | selfcontr0l: alsaconf? |
| 07:03.51 | aisa | unsang hay-ad |
| 07:03.51 | selfcontr0l | do i reboot first? |
| 07:03.51 | predius_ | no |
| 07:03.51 | selfcontr0l | alsaconf still says it can't find any soundcards |
| 07:04.03 | madradrone | zcot: usually 5. sometimes they use 7 IIRC |
| 07:04.06 | an-an | wala hehehehehehehehehe |
| 07:04.18 | stew | selfcontr0l: you are compiling alsa from source? why? what does "uname -r" say? |
| 07:04.21 | subdefy | I'm fairly sure it doesn't matter since it reads it just as it reads a cd |
| 07:04.23 | aisa | ayaw ba og tan-aw |
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| 07:04.31 | harryl | I had the same problem with alsa fix is simple |
| 07:04.42 | selfcontr0l | i have 2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 07:05.01 | kingsley | subdefy: OK, if you see the splash image, the CD/DVD is readable. Doesn't it seem odd that it would says it can't find a CD to boot when it already has booted? |
| 07:05.01 | selfcontr0l | i have spent the last 24 hrs f'in with this |
| 07:05.17 | stew | selfcontr0l: did you try /msg dpkg alsa one-liner? |
| 07:05.18 | fusion | does anyone know how to restart mysqld when its the debian package installed? I cant seem to find /etc/init.d/mysql or anything like that.. |
| 07:05.31 | predius_ | fusion: /etc/init.d/mysqld |
| 07:05.32 | an-an | wat tym man ta adto library// |
| 07:05.36 | madradrone | fusion: that's what it is |
| 07:05.36 | stew | selfcontr0l: what kind of card do you have? |
| 07:05.40 | fusion | not there either predius_ |
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| 07:05.46 | aisa | unya r |
| 07:05.54 | aisa | mga unsa n ni oras |
| 07:05.54 | harryl | you need some package trying to remember which |
| 07:05.55 | fusion | infact, nothing beginning with "my" |
| 07:06.00 | predius_ | fusion: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 07:06.00 | aisa | haw??????????????? |
| 07:06.10 | zcot | madradrone: if i open 5 and 7? and dma 0,1,3,5? still leaves other resources for PCI/ISA PnP |
| 07:06.12 | aisa | ?????????????????? |
| 07:06.12 | selfcontr0l | Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B] (rev a2) |
| 07:06.22 | aisa | katawa mn ka??????????????????? |
| 07:06.23 | fusion | ah thanks |
| 07:06.26 | aisa | haw?????????????????? |
| 07:06.28 | fusion | dunno why it didnt install before o.O |
| 07:06.47 | Belboz99 | anyone know what package rc.d belongs to? |
| 07:06.49 | madradrone | zcot: probably not. usually only dma 0 and 1, and irq 5 or 7 |
| 07:07.04 | aisa | atoang storyahon c SCOT |
| 07:07.05 | an-an | ambot la ko kblo |
| 07:07.05 | klys | zcot: zcot: standard I've always used is modprobe snd_sbawe irq=5 io=0x220 mpu_io=0x330 dma=1 dma16=5 |
| 07:07.16 | madradrone | zcot: you should be able to find it in the soundcard's reference info |
| 07:07.21 | selfcontr0l | i have twice completely REMOVED alsa and reinstalled |
| 07:07.26 | selfcontr0l | hoping that would work |
| 07:07.50 | vikasg | Belboz99 try sysv-rc, initscripts ... |
| 07:08.07 | an-an | unsay scot..... |
| 07:08.20 | distempr | is cramfs an rw capable filesystem? |
| 07:08.31 | aisa | tawo c scot |
| 07:08.33 | zcot | the Sound Blaster AWE64 card is isa-pnp(no jumpers) so maybe the bios should all say PCI/ISA PnP on irq and dma? im modprobing |
| 07:08.47 | distempr | everytime I mount an initrd with the -o loop,rw options, I get a readonly filesystem |
| 07:09.01 | an-an | knsa mana cya.. |
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| 07:09.18 | harryl | I used apt to list every alsa package out there |
| 07:09.20 | an-an | gwapo n cya |
| 07:09.31 | aisa | ambot |
| 07:09.31 | klys | zcot: you only need bios pnp on the interrupts you configure in isapnp.conf and then pass to modprobe |
| 07:09.56 | harryl | I was missing one |
| 07:10.27 | an-an | nganong kblo man u nya. |
| 07:10.49 | aisa | naa mn xa dra |
| 07:11.08 | zcot | ok.. there's the isa sound card and a pci ethernet both pnp so I don't know.. starting up ALSA done.. (not loaded) |
| 07:11.20 | zcot | i'll do that mod probe |
| 07:11.31 | an-an | asa man dapit,,,, |
| 07:11.37 | kingsley | subdefy: I googled for the error message and it seems to me that more than one person avoided it by using a different kernel. See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-356273-highlight-.html |
| 07:11.46 | selfcontr0l | sigh..... |
| 07:11.54 | klys | zcot: the modprobe is basically the same as adding the line to /etc/modules |
| 07:12.02 | Belboz99 | hey vik-asg, that didn't work, any other ideas? Or, will rc.d replace itself once I update the scripts again with a new script? |
| 07:12.35 | harryl | is there something in Xscreensaver that turns powersupply fan on and off? |
| 07:12.48 | zcot | klys: that seems like a useful approach.. the boot process should have whatever info.. and know for the sbawe driver |
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| 07:13.10 | madradrone | Belboz99: is there an rc.d file? where? |
| 07:13.13 | vikasg | Belboz99 your entire rc.d directory is gone, right? |
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| 07:13.43 | klys | zcot: after a successful modprobe, the settings you pass should show in `cat /proc/ioports /proc/interrupts /proc/dma` |
| 07:13.43 | Belboz99 | okay, now I'm confused |
| 07:13.44 | harryl | good |
| 07:14.23 | madradrone | vikasg, Belboz99: please tell me where is the rc.d directory you speak of? |
| 07:14.33 | techman2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.51 | klys | madradrone: redhat used /etc/rc.d/init.d |
| 07:15.02 | Belboz99 | I did a "mv gorc /etc/rc.d" forgetting that I had to put the name of the file at the end. "gorc" is the name of a script I wanted to put in the rc files |
| 07:15.08 | vikasg | madradrone I believe he's lost rc?.d |
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| 07:15.12 | madradrone | klys: how is the relevant? |
| 07:15.28 | madradrone | vikasg: believe and know are two different things. |
| 07:15.29 | zcot | klys: hmm. interesting.. ok I don't have the module though :/ |
| 07:15.33 | Belboz99 | is "rc.d" supposed to exist? |
| 07:15.42 | klys | madradrone: there isn't anything there on debian. |
| 07:15.51 | madradrone | no sh_t |
| 07:16.05 | Belboz99 | or are they all supposed to be rc0.d ect? |
| 07:16.10 | madradrone | that's why i asked what "rc.d" file/directory they are talking about |
| 07:16.16 | poonj | anyone here use lirc? |
| 07:16.32 | an-an | i dnt know.....hohoho |
| 07:16.39 | madradrone | Belboz99: search google for "debian reference" and read it |
| 07:16.44 | Belboz99 | lol, I just got confused. |
| 07:17.41 | madradrone | Belboz99: np. but i really recommend the reference. you'll be glad to read it |
| 07:17.49 | Belboz99 | I thought all the rc files were located in rc.d for some reason. When I realized that rc.d wasn't a folder, I was afraid it was a file that I had overwritten. Now I realize it was neither file nor folder. Oops |
| 07:18.22 | Belboz99 | I've updated those rc scripts half a dozen times |
| 07:18.34 | Belboz99 | it's just that I haven't used Linux in a good while |
| 07:18.35 | an-an | helo,gud aftrnun... |
| 07:18.45 | zcot | i can change the settings in /etc/isapnp.conf and/or the bios settings.. somehow I keep thinking rebuilding the kernel would work for something |
| 07:18.46 | Belboz99 | and I was going off a tutorial based on Red Hat |
| 07:19.20 | klys | zcot: what matters is your modprobe output. any? |
| 07:19.22 | zcot | at the very least the snd_sbawe module needs to exist somewhere.. |
| 07:19.38 | zcot | yes, output being can't locate module |
| 07:19.53 | an-an | m |
| 07:20.09 | an-an | mery xmas..... |
| 07:20.54 | klys | zcot: then get the kernel (ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6) |
| 07:20.54 | deadcat | you on crack? |
| 07:21.03 | bucky | i am |
| 07:21.04 | zcot | that makes sense why the kernel wouldn't pick it up i guess.. so I need the snd_sbawe module.. |
| 07:21.10 | zcot | oh no O_O |
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| 07:21.41 | klys | zcot: how fast is your machine? how many mb? |
| 07:21.54 | zcot | klys: i.. uhhh... i.. well.. that sounds like a can of worms :/ |
| 07:22.06 | zcot | it's a 200mhz :D 160mb |
| 07:22.15 | stdoubt | snd_sbawe is in the default 2.6 kernel just btw |
| 07:22.20 | klys | zcot: you'll find yourself doing it soon enough |
| 07:22.23 | Docteh | 128+32 heh |
| 07:22.57 | klys | zcot: it will probably take a couple of hours at most to compile |
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| 07:23.03 | bucky | i can't find snd_sbawe anywhere |
| 07:23.15 | Docteh | under alsa? |
| 07:23.26 | klys | zcot: then you can modify the compile for additional drivers and that goes fast enough |
| 07:23.28 | stdoubt | cat /boot/configXXX | grep AWE |
| 07:24.21 | klys | zcot: my built kernel tree is 885635 MB |
| 07:25.10 | bucky | modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5 |
| 07:25.26 | stdoubt | wow > 800 thousand Megabytes? |
| 07:25.38 | klys | er, KB |
| 07:25.39 | zcot | klys: i'll dig up some docs on that.. |
| 07:26.19 | klys | zcot: you'll need your patches before you start. look for the dvd writer patch |
| 07:26.58 | zcot | klys: now THAT'S a kernel.. ooohh. oh, I do have a cd burner in it |
| 07:27.01 | klys | zcot: if you like I'll /dcc you a .config I use |
| 07:27.17 | no_ | no |
| 07:28.05 | bucky | modprobe snd-sbawe io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 ? |
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| 07:29.57 | klys | zcot: or wget it from www.megapathdsl.net/~rachel/.config |
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| 07:32.23 | david_ | can the fonts in debian be copied over to a windows 2000 box so that you get anti-aliased fonts? W2K doesn't have AAF? |
| 07:32.50 | bucky | #windows |
| 07:32.50 | david_ | last sentence was a statenment, not a question |
| 07:32.52 | david_ | sorry |
| 07:33.07 | minddog | is there a reason why i can't get a ide driver to be 'Y' instead of 'M' in menuconfig |
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| 07:33.17 | rvalles | it's still not debian, but windows related |
| 07:33.21 | minddog | is there an option i'm missing |
| 07:33.22 | hans0lo | david_: 2000 does have antialias fonts. I think it's an option under desktop preferences |
| 07:33.25 | rvalles | for microsoft-related support, call microsoft |
| 07:33.28 | stew | david_: anti aliasing is something that lives in the rendering engine, not the font definition |
| 07:33.37 | rvalles | we're about free software, here. |
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| 07:33.49 | klys | minddog: my guess: something it depends on (see Kconfig) is M |
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| 07:34.12 | timo | ls |
| 07:34.13 | david_ | thanks hansOlo, stew |
| 07:34.32 | no_ | hey, how do I remove stuff from my gnome menu? |
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| 07:34.40 | no_ | quake 3 got installed there, I want it gone |
| 07:35.14 | an-an | helo,rply k nman jan..... |
| 07:35.52 | klys | no_: gnome-control-center (?) |
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| 07:36.59 | david_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.09 | zcot | alright thanks guys.. I'll take it on :/ |
| 07:37.11 | no_ | klys yea.. nothing about programs in "start" |
| 07:37.29 | klys | no_: dpkg -L gnome-control-center | grep bin |
| 07:37.46 | minddog | usually theres something in the help about the driver that dictates whether its only avail in module form |
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| 07:38.13 | david_ | no_: is there a .gnome* folder in your home directory? |
| 07:38.14 | minddog | i've always known ide drivers to be compiled in, wonderin what the option needs to be flipped |
| 07:38.52 | no_ | david_ gnome and gnome2 |
| 07:39.19 | klys | minddog: less drivers/ide/Kconfig, look for "depends on" |
| 07:39.51 | david_ | no_: I'd just check to see if there are configuration type files in there |
| 07:39.55 | minddog | no Kconfig there |
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| 07:40.23 | minddog | this is a 2.4 kernel btw |
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| 07:40.50 | klys | minddog: you might check config.in then |
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| 07:41.25 | tarbhchaca | does anyone know how i would get my user compiled gd libraries to be included in with the rest of the libraries in their path? |
| 07:41.38 | david_ | minddog: realize this isn't the answer you are looking for, but why not just compile as module? |
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| 07:42.13 | minddog | david_: cuz my wonderful manager doesn't understand the concept of loading a module |
| 07:42.27 | liable | minddog: how about if the next level up is module rather then yes? |
| 07:42.34 | david_ | tarbhchaca: wouldn't "make install" put the libraries where you need them? |
| 07:42.52 | minddog | i don't know how many times i've explained it to him thats its not a large performance hit |
| 07:43.02 | minddog | its not a mission critical box, its quite slow and old |
| 07:43.05 | klys | tarbhaca: make sure you did ./configure --prefix=/usr |
| 07:43.33 | tarbhchaca | it puts them where i want them put they aren't detected by another configure script |
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| 07:43.57 | tarbhchaca | i'v set the --prefix to $HOME/software |
| 07:45.09 | klys | tarbchaca: see /etc/ld.so.conf and set | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 07:45.27 | minddog | got it =) |
| 07:45.30 | minddog | thanks |
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| 07:48.10 | fpitt_ | Ciao |
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| 07:55.07 | edrin | hi |
| 07:55.24 | edrin | how can i know what application is listening with what socket/port? |
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| 07:55.45 | pureone | edrin netstat -tupln as root |
| 07:55.47 | Guerin | edrin: netstat -plaunt |grep |
| 07:55.51 | Guerin | heh |
| 07:56.02 | Guerin | no many netstat paracronyms |
| 07:56.07 | Guerin | s/no/so/ |
| 07:56.13 | edrin | what means the tupln or plaunt? |
| 07:56.42 | Guerin | edrin: man netstat |
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| 07:57.03 | pureone | t = tcp, u = udp , n = no hostname, l = listening, p = application |
| 07:57.12 | edrin | thx |
| 07:57.19 | edrin | and the other? |
| 07:57.25 | edrin | a |
| 07:57.32 | Guerin | edrin: all |
| 07:57.46 | edrin | does the other one miss something? |
| 07:58.08 | Guerin | edrin: suck and see |
| 07:58.10 | tarbhchaca | david_: i had a look but i don't have root access to this machine |
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| 07:59.12 | edrin | i think a = t+u+n ?? |
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| 08:00.38 | edrin | pureone: so a netstat -anp should be sufficient |
| 08:00.46 | timo | edrin, it's listening and non-listening sockets |
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| 08:01.57 | pureone | edrin test the command |
| 08:03.02 | stdoubt | i'm trying to make a local repository: i have 12 CDs worth of debs under /mnt/sda1/debian/pool in sources.list i have: "deb file:/mnt/sda1/debian ./" but apt-get update Ignores it |
| 08:04.13 | stdoubt | if i could get the deb file: line correct then it would work :\ |
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| 08:06.10 | stdoubt | Packages.gz exists under /mnt/sda1/debian |
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| 08:10.51 | edrin | pureone: ok, i tested the command and it is working fine now. netstat -tuwlanNerpv |
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| 08:10.56 | edrin | :) |
| 08:11.37 | edrin | ok, now i want to bind the udp/tcp sockets only to localhost. how do i do that? |
| 08:11.58 | edrin | for example rpc.statd is listening on all interfaces |
| 08:12.10 | bucky | stdoubt: mount the cdrom |
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| 08:12.36 | Guerin | edrin: i'm not sure you can do that with statd. You can lock it down with the NFS config files, though. |
| 08:12.54 | stdoubt | bucky: the cdroms are all copied to a HDD |
| 08:13.00 | edrin | what do you mean by lock it down? |
| 08:13.16 | klys | edrin: /etc/hosts.allow |
| 08:13.23 | stdoubt | all my debs are under /mnt/sda1/debian/pool contrib main |
| 08:13.51 | stdoubt | sources.list just needs to be pointed there somehow |
| 08:13.54 | bucky | stdoubt: what does ls /mnt/sda1/debian say? |
| 08:14.17 | stdoubt | Packages.gz pool |
| 08:14.33 | stdoubt | under pool is contrib and main |
| 08:14.37 | rvalles | err |
| 08:14.51 | rvalles | is there any way to tell debian to always install -dev packages |
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| 08:14.56 | rvalles | for anything that I do install? |
| 08:15.20 | bucky | stdoubt: and it gives you an error when you apt-get update ? |
| 08:15.50 | stdoubt | bucky: yes "Ign file: ./ Release |
| 08:16.38 | stdoubt | (my souorces.list entry reads: "deb file:/mnt/sda1/debian ./" |
| 08:16.59 | stdoubt | also have the security http ones and they update fine |
| 08:17.03 | bucky | stdoubt: usually the debian directory has the dist directory that is ignored in sources.list like this ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 08:17.58 | stdoubt | bucky: so I need a dists directory under /mnt/sda1/debian ? |
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| 08:18.16 | klys | rvalles: probably the best reason you can't do that is all the people like me who can't tell why you would want that |
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| 08:18.44 | sleless | hello all |
| 08:18.46 | klys | yo |
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| 08:19.00 | sleless | why is it with one of my machines i can install debian amd64 from the cd |
| 08:19.03 | sleless | but the other won't allow it |
| 08:19.09 | sleless | keep's coming up with checksum error |
| 08:19.11 | stdoubt | rvalles: the foo-dev packages do not always supply the full functionality of the regular foo package. you really can't use *only* dev packages |
| 08:19.13 | sleless | yet they're exactly the same computers |
| 08:20.42 | Guerin | sleless: one drive or ide controller may be faulty |
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| 08:21.07 | Guerin | sleless: try swapping the drive out, or swapping the HDD from the working one into the non-working one once you've installed |
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| 08:21.53 | hawking | what should i do for my apache web-server to execute python files? I have put a .htaccess file in cgi-bin and put these lines in it : Options +ExecCGI / AddHandler cgi-script cgi py but it doesn't work any ideas? |
| 08:21.56 | rvalles | stdoubt: yeah, there's why I want both |
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| 08:22.19 | rvalles | stdoubt: but I'd love to have a way to make sure I get both... |
| 08:22.42 | rvalles | stdoubt: because I always forget to install -dev stuff, then find myself missing headers when I try to build stuff |
| 08:22.50 | edrin | what is the reason to run rpc.statd and where to turn it of? |
| 08:22.54 | klys | anyone heard of mod_pubsub ? |
| 08:23.17 | stdoubt | rvalles: there may be a way to do it automatically, i know you can set apt to install "recommends" |
| 08:23.27 | Guerin | edrin: it's used in NFS and so on |
| 08:23.41 | Guerin | edrin: i think it's in nfs-comon |
| 08:23.44 | Guerin | common |
| 08:24.01 | klys | rvalles: when you start dpkg-buildpackage it tells you the build-depends. you can apt-get them then |
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| 08:24.21 | pppoe_dude | hi |
| 08:24.33 | klys | yo |
| 08:24.35 | stdoubt | heyhey |
| 08:24.49 | pppoe_dude | what are the addresses for the testing and unstable repositories for debian? are there more repo's available like in ubuntu? |
| 08:25.17 | pppoe_dude | i would like to install gnome 2.12 and kernel 2.6.11 |
| 08:25.22 | klys | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main |
| 08:25.23 | stdoubt | there's hundreds of mirrors |
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| 08:25.51 | stdoubt | using netselect-apt can help you find a fast one |
| 08:26.07 | pppoe_dude | ok |
| 08:26.38 | stdoubt | pppoe_dude: beware where you run it though- it writes a sources.list in your pwd |
| 08:27.04 | klys | in /etc/apt |
| 08:27.19 | pppoe_dude | stdoubt, ok... will it give me some sources where i can get gnome and linux? |
| 08:27.23 | stdoubt | it may overwrite your original is all i'm sayin |
| 08:27.52 | stdoubt | GNOME and Linux are in each mirror yes |
| 08:28.43 | pppoe_dude | ill backup my sources.list |
| 08:29.58 | pppoe_dude | nice |
| 08:30.07 | stdoubt | you running it? |
| 08:30.10 | pppoe_dude | ya |
| 08:30.21 | stdoubt | heh yup - neat-O program |
| 08:30.22 | pppoe_dude | theres lots of mirrors |
| 08:31.37 | stdoubt | it will write you a nice sources.list -but it's accuracy as to which is the fastest mirror is dubious....i'm in western us and it once gave me a mirror from belgium |
| 08:32.08 | stdoubt | ...and there's a mirror in my town |
| 08:32.28 | stdoubt | but 'mirrors-full' is a nice file to have |
| 08:33.13 | pppoe_dude | stdoubt, k it gave me a new sources.list, and i updated apt... but i still dont get kernel 2.6.11 and it's only 1 new source |
| 08:33.31 | pppoe_dude | i dont think i have "testing" enabled... how can i do that/ |
| 08:33.49 | pppoe_dude | (i am guessing it would be in testing) |
| 08:33.55 | stdoubt | change "stable" or "sarge" in sources.list to "testing" or "etch" |
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| 08:34.01 | stdoubt | then apt-get update |
| 08:34.08 | pppoe_dude | ok |
| 08:34.26 | sn00p | Does anybody know how I setup file sharing through my host os and my guest os using vmware? |
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| 08:36.02 | sn00p | vmware ? |
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| 08:38.33 | k0walski | !dpkg amd64 |
| 08:38.33 | dpkg | amd64 is probably See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 08:39.12 | k0walski | sorry didn't meant to post in channel. |
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| 08:39.36 | stdoubt | i'm sure you'll be punished ;] |
| 08:40.22 | k0walski | how do I get dpkg to talk to me thru messages? |
| 08:40.47 | stdoubt | talk to you? |
| 08:41.07 | liable | k0walski: /msg dpkg, then just type the factoid |
| 08:41.16 | k0walski | liable: thanks. |
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| 08:42.15 | pppoe_dude | thanks ill be back if it all works out |
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| 08:49.38 | Bogaurd | is there anyway to make proftpd reload its config without restarting it when its running in standalone mode? |
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| 08:49.50 | dondelelcaro | Bogaurd: just send it a HUP |
| 08:49.57 | dondelelcaro | Bogaurd: that's the typical method |
| 08:50.08 | Bogaurd | dondelelcaro: how can i do that? =\ |
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| 08:51.08 | sergey | hi all |
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| 08:51.23 | pppoe_dude | cool |
| 08:51.28 | pppoe_dude | first problem solved |
| 08:51.31 | madradrone | Bogaurd: man kill |
| 08:52.01 | sergey | exit |
| 08:52.03 | Bogaurd | hmm. doesnt a hup kill it and restart it? =\ |
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| 08:52.20 | Bogaurd | pppoe_dude: having trouble with pppoe? or something else? |
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| 08:52.25 | pppoe_dude | (that was, for whoever was here like 3 hours ago, debian freezing with a seg fault, turned out to be i810_audio, but its ok with ker 2.6.11) |
| 08:52.57 | pppoe_dude | Bogaurd, no actually... funny that you asked, i acquired this nick 3 years ago when i was setting up my dsl... but now i use cable, yet my nick is tha same |
| 08:53.10 | Bogaurd | lol, okay =) |
| 08:53.27 | pppoe_dude | now, prob2, the testing mirror doesnt seem to have gnome 2.12, only 2.10... any pointers? |
| 08:53.52 | pppoe_dude | im trying apt-get.org |
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| 08:57.20 | pppoe_dude | would it be in unstable? |
| 08:57.42 | stdoubt | s'possible |
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| 08:59.37 | docta_v | should i put my LD_LIBRARY_PATH in .bash_profile or .bashrc...what about my PATH? |
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| 09:00.10 | docta_v | any suggestions are appreciated |
| 09:00.12 | marcels | pppoe_dude: Gnome 2.12 is in experimental |
| 09:00.14 | dondelelcaro | pppoe_dude: no, it's in experimental. |
| 09:00.15 | Eulex | pppoe_dude, 2.10 is in unstable, 2.12 is in experimental |
| 09:00.16 | marcels | almost |
| 09:00.27 | dondelelcaro | docta_v: why area you setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 09:00.36 | pppoe_dude | does that mean its no good? coz ubuntu shipped with it |
| 09:00.52 | docta_v | dondelelcaro: for libs in my home directory |
| 09:00.59 | dondelelcaro | pppoe_dude: no, it just means that in the maintainer's opinion, it isn't ready for unstable. |
| 09:01.02 | sn00p | anybody use vmware in here? |
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| 09:01.15 | docta_v | i guess i'm not exactly sure what's appropriate to put in bashrc and what in profile |
| 09:01.19 | pppoe_dude | ok i guess i can try and see... |
| 09:01.36 | SchroedingersCat | hey, has anybody in here had any problems with a digital cameras recently? |
| 09:01.37 | pppoe_dude | do i need experimental over testing and unstable or can i just change the repos? |
| 09:01.40 | docta_v | bashrc gets evaluated by profile...so it probably doesn't make a huge difference |
| 09:01.58 | dondelelcaro | docta_v: generally, yes... man bash; if you care about when it does. |
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| 09:02.02 | pppoe_dude | lol |
| 09:02.06 | dondelelcaro | SchroedingersCat: no, but apparently you do. |
| 09:02.16 | pppoe_dude | dpkg is going haywire |
| 09:02.18 | SchroedingersCat | lol dondelelcaro |
| 09:02.20 | SchroedingersCat | yeah |
| 09:02.23 | Eulex | !tell SchroedingersCat about ask |
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| 09:03.09 | SchroedingersCat | well, i was just trying to narrow down if it's a known bug somewhere with a recent apt-get upgrade |
| 09:03.27 | docta_v | dondelelcaro: is there something similar to LD_LIBRARY_PATH for header files? |
| 09:03.33 | SchroedingersCat | since i was able to access it as a normal user a few weeks ago |
| 09:03.35 | SchroedingersCat | and now i can't |
| 09:03.51 | SchroedingersCat | despite the fact that all permissions in /proc/bus/usb are set properly |
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| 09:04.37 | pppoe_dude | join /#flood |
| 09:04.39 | pppoe_dude | oops |
| 09:05.02 | pppoe_dude | can someone go to #flood and tell me if my apt sources file looks normal? |
| 09:05.19 | ac3 | is it possible to use pam_ldap - libnss-ldap authentication without read access to the attr=userPassword? |
| 09:05.22 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, you probably just need to set umask=022,uid=1000 |
| 09:06.04 | ove | pppoe_dude: http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 09:06.34 | SchroedingersCat | Eulex, that's what my umask already is |
| 09:06.47 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, and your uid? |
| 09:06.51 | SchroedingersCat | yup |
| 09:06.53 | SchroedingersCat | 1000 |
| 09:06.57 | Eulex | hmm |
| 09:07.05 | Eulex | and your user's uid is 1000? |
| 09:07.10 | SchroedingersCat | yes |
| 09:07.14 | pppoe_dude | http://paste.debian.net/3026 |
| 09:07.28 | SchroedingersCat | and i'm in the 'camera' group |
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| 09:07.46 | SchroedingersCat | as has been set up in the libgphoto2 scripts |
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| 09:07.55 | SchroedingersCat | and as the permissions are set as in /proc/bus/usb |
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| 09:08.23 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, you could try gid=whatever gid the group camera has |
| 09:08.38 | dondelelcaro | docta_v: no, the only thing that cares about headers are compilers, and you modify them using -I options to the compiler. |
| 09:09.11 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, btw, can you read from the device as a normal user? |
| 09:09.14 | pppoe_dude | i still can't find gnome 2.12 |
| 09:09.21 | SchroedingersCat | Eulex, no, just as root |
| 09:09.32 | pppoe_dude | i added deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ experimental contrib main to my source file |
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| 09:10.05 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, you could look at the files mounted and see what permissions they have |
| 09:10.05 | resiak | pppoe_dude: there is no way that the use of experimental is going to be supported in here |
| 09:10.18 | SchroedingersCat | well this camera won't allow me to mount |
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| 09:10.35 | edrin | hi |
| 09:10.37 | SchroedingersCat | and there are no devices created for it when it's plugged in |
| 09:10.56 | SchroedingersCat | or even an attempt to assign it to a device |
| 09:11.14 | edrin | i tried to disable auth listening on port 113 by doing update-inetd --disable auth but the thing is still listening, why? |
| 09:11.16 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, hmm? so gphoto should solves that in some way? |
| 09:11.17 | pppoe_dude | resiak, what can i do? sorry im not that advanced with apt |
| 09:11.29 | SchroedingersCat | Eulex, sure |
| 09:11.30 | Eulex | *solve |
| 09:11.33 | SchroedingersCat | and it does, as long as i'm root |
| 09:11.44 | SchroedingersCat | it no longer works as a normal user |
| 09:11.45 | resiak | pppoe_dude: Wait till Gnome 2.12 hits testing. |
| 09:11.48 | SchroedingersCat | as it did a few weeks ago |
| 09:12.00 | pppoe_dude | k.. |
| 09:12.07 | SchroedingersCat | Dec 3 03:11:56 localhost kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 |
| 09:12.20 | SchroedingersCat | that's all tht happens in /var/log/messages when the camera is plugged in |
| 09:12.21 | Eulex | SchroedingersCat, sorry, never experienced any such camera. just mountable ones. |
| 09:12.25 | resiak | pppoe_dude: If you can't figure out how to add a source to sources.list, you shouldn't use Sid, let alone bits of Experimental. |
| 09:12.27 | edrin | can you tell me how to turn off the listening thing on port 113? |
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| 09:15.21 | peterS | edrin: that's "ident" - you have an ident server installed |
| 09:15.28 | edrin | ok |
| 09:15.30 | peterS | edrin: debian ships several of those. anyway, the config is in /etc/inetd.conf |
| 09:15.31 | edrin | :) |
| 09:15.41 | edrin | i just disabled it :) |
| 09:15.43 | edrin | ok |
| 09:15.52 | peterS | if you don't want it, go ahead and uninstall the package |
| 09:16.04 | peterS | it's easy to reinstall any time you change your mind, after all |
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| 09:16.25 | edrin | next thing. i cant uninstall fam as it is an important part of Gnome. how can i disable it safely? |
| 09:16.55 | resiak | You can uninstall it. |
| 09:17.20 | edrin | resiak: but it says Gnome depends on it and will be broken |
| 09:17.39 | edrin | btw. i uninstalled lisa, was this a good idea? |
| 09:17.44 | resiak | Hmm, this is a regression ... Gnome used to run just fine without it :( |
| 09:17.56 | peterS | edrin: bah, fam is an annoying dependency. you can use 'update-rc.d' to disable it - see the manpage for the options |
| 09:20.18 | bassMonkey | There's one thing I've been wondering about for a while, what happens when a new kernel is released into etch and I wanna upgrade, how can it replace my current one? |
| 09:20.36 | positron| | does kernel 2.6 support directly ide cd burners? or do i have to play with scsi emulation? |
| 09:20.47 | fusion | pretty sure its direct |
| 09:21.19 | positron| | because i read some document and it says |
| 09:21.21 | positron| | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.42 | positron| | Fortunately, the Linux kernel can be configured to support your IDE CD burner through SCSI emulation. |
| 09:21.47 | edrin | peterS: hm, this update-rc.d thing is complicat :/ is there a way to bin such services to localhost interface? in fact i think i will have the same problem with cupsd, too. and i need my printer :/ |
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| 09:22.33 | edrin | bind |
| 09:22.41 | positron| | thats an old document nm |
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| 09:22.45 | peterS | edrin: some services make it fairly easy to restrict what interfaces they listen on. I believe fam is not one of those, though portmap (which fam uses, and that's probably what you'll be asking about next) does |
| 09:23.11 | peterS | edrin: well-behaved services come with an /etc/defaults/* file where you can set stuff like that. fam unfortunately doesn't |
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| 09:26.43 | edrin | peterS: i uninstalled portmap and fam did not complain about this :/!? |
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| 09:27.27 | peterS | edrin: oh yeah - I think I had words with the fam maintainer awhile back about this - it's IMHO a bug in the package. fam doesn't function without portmap, so it should (but doesn't) declare a dependency on it |
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| 09:28.07 | edrin | peterS: ok, now i am confused |
| 09:28.08 | peterS | edrin: well, I mean, fam doesn't function *properly* without portmap. it might still run, technically (or it might not), but apps that want to use it might not be able to find it |
| 09:29.30 | jake_ | Hi all, i want to install the kernel source, so that I can build lirc-modules, but there 2 packages (linux-source-2.6.14 and linux-tree-2.6.14). which one do I want, i am running a stock debian kernel image 2.6.12-2-k7.... |
| 09:29.52 | edrin | but fam could be a potential security hole; why is this by default installed with gnome? how to ensure it can not be abused? why doesn't it ask me what interfaces to bind with? |
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| 09:30.34 | koshnaranek | is there an eta for firefox 1.5? |
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| 09:31.16 | koshnaranek | jake_: linux-source |
| 09:31.18 | klys | linux-tree-2.6.14 depends: linux-source-2.6.14 |
| 09:31.44 | Pimpinella | jake_: you probably only want the kernel headers though |
| 09:31.50 | jake_ | koshnaranek, Thanks :) Whats the difference between the packages? |
| 09:31.55 | edrin | peterS: but fam could be a potential security hole; why is this by default installed with gnome? how to ensure it can not be abused? why doesn't it ask me what interfaces to bind with? |
| 09:32.14 | peterS | edrin: I don't know why you're asking *me* this |
| 09:32.45 | klys | jake_: the tree one patches the kernel with stock debian patches. |
| 09:32.46 | jake_ | Pimpinella, tryed that, didnt work. |
| 09:32.57 | koshnaranek | jake_: linux-source is what is usually required, linux-tree is for magic kernel wizard developer juju |
| 09:33.15 | jake_ | koshnaranek, haha, I'll keep away then :) |
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| 09:33.45 | jake_ | Pimpinella, But maybe that wasnt the problem after all! |
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| 09:36.07 | Pimpinella | jake_: if you just want to build modules the linux-source-2.6.14 is what you want. if you want to build a kernel package with debian patches and debian infrastructure the tree package is the one for you |
| 09:36.13 | edrin | peterS: so what did you do with your portmap, NIS, NFS, lisa, fam, cups? did you just uninstall them? |
| 09:37.18 | edrin | peterS: a, btw fam is bound to localhost anywa, so nothing to worry |
| 09:37.43 | peterS | edrin: that actually makes sense. fam is of very little use to processes not running on the local machine. |
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| 09:38.31 | peterS | edrin: as for what I did with those other things - I just don't worry that much about it. portmap is a pretty simple server, I don't have NIS or lisa installed, and I forget whether I've restricted cups to my local network |
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| 09:42.34 | edrin | peterS: ok, so you think I am somehow "paranoid" ? |
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| 09:42.51 | edrin | and that's ok if you think so |
| 09:42.56 | peterS | edrin: paranoia isn't a bad thing. especially if you have limited knowledge of the codebase in question it's probably good not to trust it too far |
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| 09:43.58 | jose171181 | hi guys, i'd like to mount ext2 image file as a home directory for a user however loop is umode= |
| 09:44.08 | jose171181 | unaware.. |
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| 09:45.31 | resiak | jose171181: chmod the directories of the mounted image appropriately |
| 09:46.52 | jose171181 | true mate, thank you |
| 09:48.21 | edrin | ok, another help i need. in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf i could bind the daemon to localhost with the tcp port 631. but the UDP is still listening on all interfaces, why??? |
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| 09:50.16 | Glanzmann | Are there ready to use Intel Wireless 2200 Driver for Debian Testing? |
| 09:50.42 | valdyn | !ipw2200 |
| 09:50.43 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
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| 09:53.28 | Glanzmann | Thanks |
| 09:54.08 | Glanzmann | what is m-a? Module assistant? |
| 09:54.23 | jelly | Glanzmann: yup. |
| 09:55.16 | jelly | Glanzmann: There actually is a symlink called "m-a" for the lazy ones. |
| 09:55.46 | Glanzmann | I see. |
| 09:56.03 | Glanzmann | Btw. kernel-headers- is renamed into linux-headers for 2.6, isn't it? |
| 09:56.12 | Glanzmann | never heard about module assistant. |
| 09:56.30 | Glanzmann | !contrib |
| 09:56.31 | dpkg | i heard contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
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| 09:59.05 | valdyn | dpkg: contrib =~ s/need contrib/need 'non-free contrib'/ |
| 09:59.05 | dpkg | valdyn: OK |
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| 10:00.54 | Glanzmann | Okay |
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| 10:02.28 | valdyn | dpkg: contrib =~ s/non-free packages /non-free software/ |
| 10:02.28 | dpkg | valdyn: OK |
| 10:03.25 | red | i have a netgear pcmcia wifi card that uses madwifi, driver is modprobed, only problem is my laptop keeps seeing the card as a WIRED card.. i see it in ifconfig but not in iwconfig |
| 10:04.27 | deadcat | red: it should be ath0 |
| 10:05.15 | DoubleHP | I am trying to connect a wireless AP. Under windows the probing tool can see the AP, some times connect to it, but never get DHCP answers. Debian could not connect to AP yesterday, but now refuses to set up ESSID. I can not install kismet nor wavemon since that box has no I access; what to try next ? manually grab kismet package ? but: how to compute dep tree offline ? |
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| 10:05.45 | valdyn | DoubleHP: use apt-zip |
| 10:06.02 | deadcat | DoubleHP: iwlist scan |
| 10:06.30 | DoubleHP | deadcat: hmmm, there is wep around ... I expect problems with that ... |
| 10:07.06 | DoubleHP | deadcat: says network is down .... |
| 10:07.16 | deadcat | then its down |
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| 10:07.53 | DoubleHP | deadcat: my modd is going down also ... |
| 10:07.58 | itom | ot: I've two drives Sata in a server HP ML110, and before installing debian I want to configure a Raid 1: the step are a) create array with two discs 2) add hotspare(the 2nd disk 3) reboot and install in sda? |
| 10:08.14 | red | deadcat, unfortunitly the card comes up as "wifi0" |
| 10:08.28 | DoubleHP | valdyn: no such command on my box |
| 10:08.40 | deadcat | red: its not using madwifi then. i dont think so atleast. you sure its a madwifi card? |
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| 10:09.07 | red | yes |
| 10:09.23 | red | ive used this card type in a nother laptop before... and mad wifi was the driver |
| 10:09.28 | DoubleHP | deadcat: I unfortunately installed hostap packages .... |
| 10:09.34 | liable | red: thats the new cvs version. read the readme. /j #madwifi |
| 10:09.38 | deadcat | lsmod |grep ath |
| 10:09.52 | deadcat | nevermind then. 9= |
| 10:09.53 | deadcat | (= |
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| 10:10.11 | deadcat | liable probably right since i dont have madwifi cards |
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| 10:10.58 | liable | red: the old code is available as source in sid now :) |
| 10:11.05 | red | hm :P |
| 10:11.34 | red | perhaps i should apt-get instead of using the new stuff... is that what ure saying ? lol USE OLD CODE IN LINUX, why! |
| 10:11.52 | liable | red: OR READ THE README LOLZ!?! |
| 10:12.08 | liable | :P |
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| 10:12.35 | red | ill try the apt version's code |
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| 10:13.11 | red | liable, great, compile issues |
| 10:13.55 | liable | red: kelmo in #madwifi is the maintainer, why not ask there. |
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| 10:14.08 | red | ic |
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| 10:18.58 | Glanzmann | Thanks for the help. The Intel Wireless does work. |
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| 10:19.14 | DoubleHP | Glanzmann: mine doesnt |
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| 10:21.06 | grzywacz_ | Hi. |
| 10:21.11 | Glanzmann | DoubleHP: Strange. Mine did on sight. |
| 10:21.14 | iss | Can anyone of you recommend a rss-reader? |
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| 10:22.39 | pureone | wget + perl :) |
| 10:23.07 | DimmuR | iss: I'm using liferea |
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| 10:26.14 | rhyek | hi. i just installed telnetd and am trying to access my linux pc from a windows pc. my linux pc's ip is 192.168.1.9, so when i type 'telnet 192.168.1.9' from windows' telnet client, i only get a blank window. no user login prompt. what could the problem be? |
| 10:26.29 | resiak | Don't use telnet, use ssh |
| 10:26.30 | predius_ | rhyek: use ssh |
| 10:26.35 | predius_ | heh |
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| 10:26.56 | rhyek | err, i'm supposed to learn how to use telnet first. it's for a class :s |
| 10:27.05 | pureone | meh |
| 10:27.06 | predius_ | rhyek: uh |
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| 10:27.19 | pureone | slap your teacher for teaching bad habbits :) |
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| 10:27.27 | predius_ | yeah |
| 10:27.42 | rhyek | will do. anyways though, what could the problem be? |
| 10:27.50 | predius_ | just wait a while. |
| 10:27.57 | rhyek | is there anything else i need to do aside from installing telnetd? |
| 10:28.02 | predius_ | with telnet, it sometimes takes some time. |
| 10:28.06 | predius_ | is it up? |
| 10:28.15 | predius_ | /etc/init.d/telnetd start |
| 10:28.17 | rhyek | don't know, heh. |
| 10:28.18 | pureone | access it with netcat and see what its doing |
| 10:28.33 | pureone | netcat has better errors |
| 10:28.35 | PhoenixMan | Hello. I'm managing a Linux system, and wish to make it so my users have a quota limit on how much they can store (and perhaps a bandwidth limit, memory usage limit, CPU limit etc.). How would I set these, and how can I view these (I'm creating a CGI application which displays the users quota & bandwidth & CPU usage & such) |
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| 10:28.51 | rhyek | so i type netcat telnetd? |
| 10:29.05 | rhyek | or just netcat? |
| 10:29.07 | predius_ | rhyek: win to lin? |
| 10:29.11 | rhyek | yeah |
| 10:29.19 | pureone | no from the windows box instead of typing "telnet ip" type "nc -vvv ipaddr 23" |
| 10:29.26 | pureone | also you will have to get netcat from somewhere |
| 10:29.32 | pureone | cygwin or packetstorm will do :) |
| 10:29.47 | grzywacz_ | I've just upgraded postgresql from 7.4 to 8.1 and it left the /var/lib/postgres directory, while 8.1 seems to be using /var/lib/postgresql. Can I safely assume, that /var/lib/postgres is not needed anymore and remove it? |
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| 10:30.30 | liable | grzywacz_: probably, by reading the changelog. |
| 10:30.34 | pureone | windows also comes with a telnetd :) |
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| 10:31.09 | rhyek | predius_: well i typed in what you said and apparently the file doesn't exist |
| 10:31.37 | pureone | telnetd is done via inetd IIRC |
| 10:31.53 | |newbie| | hi there |
| 10:32.00 | |newbie| | I need some help |
| 10:32.08 | |newbie| | I created a user sander (/home/sander) |
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| 10:32.18 | |newbie| | But I had a partition having /home |
| 10:32.25 | lobomufas | hi |
| 10:32.27 | |newbie| | then I mount /dev/hda6 in /home/sander |
| 10:32.34 | grzywacz_ | liable, did that but.. it's not obvious. It only states "correct home directory from ... to ..." and I'd expect it to be renamed or something, not copied... |
| 10:32.39 | |newbie| | But the user sander doesn not have rights to write there |
| 10:32.42 | |newbie| | how to solve it ?? |
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| 10:32.51 | trend | hello.. |
| 10:33.15 | trend | can someone tell me why cp -al makes backup.0 to be 8.7 megs.. when it was 57megs before i cp -al.. here is my cmdline: http://pastebin.ca/32211 |
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| 10:33.36 | valdyn | !wikifaq S4nD3r Permissions |
| 10:33.37 | dpkg | S4nD3r: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 10:33.54 | PhoenixMan | I use the program "sudo" so administrators can gain access to the root account. However, my administrators are also capable of editing the /etc/sudoers file to allow other users access. Is there any way to |
| 10:34.11 | PhoenixMan | make it so "sudo" disallows editing the /etc/sudoers file? |
| 10:34.33 | jelly | trend: du counts hardlinked files only once. try only du backup.0 |
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| 10:34.48 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: what privileges have you given them in sudoers? |
| 10:34.59 | PhoenixMan | ALL |
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| 10:35.06 | rhyek | hm, for ftp, what program should i install? |
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| 10:35.16 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: if the answer is ALL: ALL ALL, they functionally ARE root and there is exactly nothing you can do to stop them |
| 10:35.23 | PhoenixMan | I want to give them full access EXCEPT for editing the sudoers file. |
| 10:35.24 | jelly | trend: It's a sort of a feature too - you can see the size of the incremental changes between two backups. |
| 10:35.25 | trend | jelly, ahh! |
| 10:35.27 | pureone | rhyek i like pure-ftpd |
| 10:35.31 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: reduce their privileges to things they actually need to do |
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| 10:35.53 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: or just ban the fuckers if they abuse their privileges |
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| 10:36.43 | yang | are there nvidia kernel drivers for recent 2.6.12 ? |
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| 10:36.51 | deadcat | build yourself |
| 10:36.57 | S4nD3r | about permissions I know |
| 10:37.07 | valdyn | !tell yang -about nvidia one-liner |
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| 10:37.13 | deadcat | !tell yang about nvidia one-liner |
| 10:37.14 | trend | jelly, i see! that makes sense.. but the thing is.. the backup.1 shouldn't be any larger.. because i did the rsync right after the first.. why is it say 7 or so megs |
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| 10:37.26 | S4nD3r | The problem is that user sander doesnt have permission to access the homefolder to write |
| 10:37.30 | S4nD3r | Thats the problem... |
| 10:37.41 | valdyn | S4nD3r: so change permissions |
| 10:37.51 | S4nD3r | How to mount the /dev/hda6 /home/sander in that way of user sander may write there? |
| 10:37.54 | yang | thanks |
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| 10:38.05 | valdyn | S4nD3r: you clearly didnt read the faq |
| 10:38.05 | S4nD3r | I created the directory /home/sander as 777 |
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| 10:38.14 | S4nD3r | changed the owner to sander |
| 10:38.25 | S4nD3r | but the user sander, doesnt have write access |
| 10:38.26 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: perhaps give them access to everything except charrt, and make the sudoers file +i |
| 10:38.27 | valdyn | S4nD3r: do just that _after_ mounting |
| 10:38.30 | Guerin | chattr |
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| 10:38.40 | deadcat | S4nD3r: man mount |
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| 10:38.54 | jelly | trend: It's probably not larger - try "du backup.1" by itself. |
| 10:38.59 | PhoenixMan | Uh... |
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| 10:39.04 | PhoenixMan | Okay, I want to do something different. |
| 10:39.16 | resiak | Guerin: sudo cp /usr/bin/chattr /tmp/iwin; sudo /tmp/iwin blah blah |
| 10:39.18 | resiak | Guerin: HTH HAND |
| 10:39.29 | trend | jelly, yes, you are right.. they are the saem size.. was just confused why it reported the 8.7megs on backup.0 |
| 10:39.38 | PhoenixMan | Basically I want my users to have a quota limit and perhaps some other limits such as limits on bandwidth, memory usage, and CPU usage (if CPU is 100% for awhile it kills whatever PID which makes it 100%) |
| 10:39.44 | PhoenixMan | Is this possible, and if so, how? |
| 10:39.53 | trend | jelly, i am trying to develop an rsync backup plan to backup incrementals.. you have any suggestions? |
| 10:39.55 | PhoenixMan | I want to first start off with a quota limit |
| 10:39.57 | resiak | PhoenixMan: The latter can be done with and |
| 10:40.07 | jelly | trend: the 7 megs are files that were changed and do not exist in the other tree. It's the size the incremental backup would be if you made backups like that. |
| 10:40.10 | PhoenixMan | And? |
| 10:40.14 | PhoenixMan | And what? |
| 10:40.19 | resiak | !info and |
| 10:40.27 | dpkg | and: (Auto Nice Daemon), section misc, is extra. Version: 1.2.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 128 kB |
| 10:40.29 | Guerin | resiak: indeed |
| 10:40.41 | valdyn | jelly: -l makes links |
| 10:40.54 | jelly | trend: You're not the first one to have thought of that. Take a look at rsnapshot, dirvish, rdiff-backup. ;-) |
| 10:40.54 | valdyn | jelly: why'd you use -l if you wanted a complete copy? |
| 10:41.01 | resiak | Guerin: So basically one can't do what he wants |
| 10:41.10 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: it's not possible, you can't fence root in |
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| 10:41.14 | Guerin | that's the point of root |
| 10:41.14 | valdyn | jelly: oh, wrong target |
| 10:41.22 | yang | When I try to ssh to the box i get error - Permission denied (publickey) |
| 10:41.25 | valdyn | trend: ^^^ |
| 10:41.25 | trend | jelly, but i don't believe there is a difference of 7 or 8.5 megs between the 2.. how can i check? |
| 10:41.26 | jelly | valdyn: yup. no problem. ;-) |
| 10:41.37 | Guerin | resiak: i always miss the obvious problems |
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| 10:42.02 | trend | valdyn, i wanted to use a hard lnk to save space |
| 10:42.24 | valdyn | trend: the manpage does not say that -l makes hard links |
| 10:42.25 | jelly | trend: you might have eg. a 7-megs log file that was slightly changed, and so there is a separate copy in each tree. |
| 10:42.47 | valdyn | trend: maybe it does though, i dont know |
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| 10:43.15 | trend | in the linux server hacks book i am reading it says it does.. so hopefully it does :/ |
| 10:43.16 | loca|host | i have a problem with apache2 under debian sarge 3.1, it's showing an error as if the server were unavailable, after the second refresh it works, the server isnt available, it's on a lan |
| 10:43.26 | trend | jelly, i guess so |
| 10:43.42 | PhoenixMan | Okay. I installed "and". |
| 10:43.57 | valdyn | trend: either way i'd look into dirvish, its neat |
| 10:44.00 | trend | jelly, out of: rsnapshot, dirvish, rdiff-backup.. you have a fav? |
| 10:44.01 | PhoenixMan | Uh... Next question: how do I enforce a quota limit on users, and how do I see how much quota a user has left? |
| 10:44.14 | trend | valdyn, oh, you prefer dirvish.. ok |
| 10:44.34 | jelly | trend: I use dirvish locally, rsnapshot remotely, and I also heard duplicity is nice. |
| 10:44.34 | valdyn | !quota |
| 10:44.35 | dpkg | quota is, like, a Debian package for managing disk space quotas. It can be made to cap space usage by certain uids or gids; see /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Quota.gz (in the "doc-linux-nonfree-text" package) for a (slightly out-of-date) introduction. |
| 10:44.45 | cparman | what debian (or keyword) installs in.identd ? |
| 10:44.55 | cparman | what debian package (or keyword) installs in.identd ? |
| 10:44.55 | resiak | Guerin: Heh. |
| 10:45.09 | resiak | PhoenixMan: You'll have to _configure_ and |
| 10:45.14 | valdyn | !tell cparman -about search |
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| 10:45.34 | positron| | !tell positron| -about search |
| 10:45.38 | PhoenixMan | How do I configure "and"? |
| 10:45.59 | cparman | thanks |
| 10:46.01 | jelly | trend: dirvish sucks for remote backups because it requires access from the client to the root@backup, but had more nifty features than rsnapshot that I use for this purpose. |
| 10:46.08 | jelly | s/had/has/ |
| 10:46.10 | PhoenixMan | If at all I'd like "and" to NOT mess with the "hostserver" and "phoenix" users PIDs, but to enforce on the rest |
| 10:46.20 | trend | jelly, oh |
| 10:46.23 | resiak | PhoenixMan: Read its documentation |
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| 10:47.08 | trend | jelly, i am still njot convienced why i cannot do this with rsync.. i just want to do dialy incremental backusp |
| 10:47.27 | jelly | trend: that's what all those scripts do. ;-) |
| 10:47.44 | valdyn | trend: rsync sure can do it. dirivsh etc just add functionality and still use rsync |
| 10:47.46 | trend | ohhhhhhhhhhhh, rsnapshot is a script |
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| 10:47.57 | trend | i gotcha! well perfect.. that is what i want then :) |
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| 10:48.01 | jelly | trend: use rsnapshot then, it's not much more than a wrapper for rsync. |
| 10:48.47 | valdyn | jelly: ..and you'd use a script either way i guess since rsync syntax does get this command quite large |
| 10:49.20 | jelly | valdyn: yup. That, and I was too lazy to make a script myself. |
| 10:50.22 | TipTop | what is the correct way to unplug a usb mass storage device? |
| 10:50.32 | valdyn | TipTop: unmount it, then unplug it |
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| 10:51.47 | TipTop | should i make the hd go into "sleep mode" before unplug? |
| 10:51.52 | valdyn | TipTop: and probably mount it already with the sync option to reduce risk of dataloss if you happen to 'forget' the unmounting |
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| 10:52.38 | valdyn | TipTop: no, that has nothing to do with it |
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| 10:53.23 | loca|host | i have a problem with apache2 under debian sarge 3.1, it's showing an error as if the server were unavailable, after the second refresh it works, the server isnt available, it's on a lan |
| 10:53.33 | trend | jelly, valdyn thanks! |
| 10:53.40 | TipTop | valdyn: thx |
| 10:53.49 | trend | i just installed rswhateveritwascalled.. config it now |
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| 10:56.26 | b0xy | is there a linux server equivalent to Active Directory? |
| 10:56.45 | poonj | anyone here get lirc to work? |
| 10:56.47 | lobomufas | vi? :) |
| 10:56.55 | poonj | specifically lircmd? |
| 10:57.55 | deadcat | b0xy: ldap? |
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| 10:59.06 | b0xy | I'll google |
| 10:59.33 | b0xy | i've heard of that before but never really paid attention |
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| 11:00.10 | b0xy | that'd be it |
| 11:00.10 | b0xy | thanks |
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| 11:04.21 | blaamann_home | Yesterday everything was fine and I was recording using audacity today it just does not work, any tips on what to mute/unmute etc i alsamixer in order to be able to record. I've almost tried all the various settings. |
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| 11:08.02 | jelly | b0xy: ldap is the main component of AD, but is nowhere like a complete replacement. I think the Samba guys are working on a complete replacement, and Samba4 is supposed to be it, but who knows when will that release. Check out Samba and Samba-NG which was forked off some time ago with the goal to provide full Domain Controller capabilities. |
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| 11:10.28 | grumly | hi everyone, i've got a little problem with aptitude, somebody can help ? |
| 11:10.28 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai everyone, i've got a little problem with aptitude, somebody can help! |
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| 11:12.04 | Kris | Hi! |
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| 11:13.27 | PhoenixMan | Bye! |
| 11:13.33 | PhoenixMan | :S |
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| 11:13.53 | trend | jelly, you still around? |
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| 11:14.57 | trend | stupid rsnapshot isn't able to mkdir needed to rsync :/ |
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| 11:17.27 | chrysopa | How to save a kde session without make a logout kde? |
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| 11:18.01 | chrysopa | Exist something like save a session? |
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| 11:18.41 | PhoenixMan | How do I quickly see if a user exists? |
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| 11:18.55 | trend | lastlog |
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| 11:18.59 | trend | or cat /etc/passwd |
| 11:19.01 | azeem | PhoenixMan: id <user> I guess |
| 11:19.07 | trend | probably both bad wasy to do it.. but it works :/ |
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| 11:23.07 | PhoenixMan | I have a quota system now, but I want to view the quota of other users and tell them how much quota they have using a CGI script. |
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| 11:23.20 | PhoenixMan | Is there any way to make this CGI script display the users quota in a friendly fashion? |
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| 11:25.28 | pngwn | PhoenixMan, #cgi ? |
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| 11:25.40 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: getent passwd |grep user |
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| 11:26.07 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:26.07 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 11:26.23 | PhoenixMan | !sudo |
| 11:26.24 | dpkg | i heard sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 11:27.28 | resiak | PhoenixMan: Write one? |
| 11:27.38 | PhoenixMan | I am. |
| 11:27.39 | PhoenixMan | Uh |
| 11:27.44 | PhoenixMan | How do I rename a user? |
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| 11:27.53 | PhoenixMan | I su'ed to root and want to rename my own user to phoenixman instead of phoenix |
| 11:28.02 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: don't even think about renaming a user, ever |
| 11:28.08 | PhoenixMan | ....ok./ |
| 11:28.12 | PhoenixMan | *doesn't think* |
| 11:28.19 | PhoenixMan | *receives an error in hsi script as the user doesn't exist* |
| 11:28.21 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: the user exists since long and has plenty of config files? really don't think about it |
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| 11:29.22 | PhoenixMan | Alright I added a new user. |
| 11:29.33 | PhoenixMan | Is there any quick way of transferring my priviledges etc. over to the new user |
| 11:29.49 | tarzeau | i love this spectrum analyser, what music players beside opencubicplayer have that? |
| 11:30.02 | nerdy2 | (to the system, it's the uid that matters, so if you really wanted to rename the user, you could edit /etc/passwd and just change the user name, however applications that user runs may well have stored the user name or break in unexpected ways...) |
| 11:30.28 | tarzeau | nerdy2: that's "borken applications" .. |
| 11:30.35 | PhoenixMan | -_- |
| 11:30.37 | tarzeau | resiak: haha ;) |
| 11:30.43 | nerdy2 | (if you actually edit /etc/passwd, you also need to edit the corresponding entry in /etc/shadow as well) |
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| 11:31.09 | tarzeau | nerdy2: maybe the turned shadow off, with shadowconfig off |
| 11:31.11 | yang | I can't login over ssh anymore, even when I type in the password it says Permission denied ? |
| 11:31.34 | tarzeau | yang: check the log file |
| 11:31.37 | nerdy2 | maybe he uses ldap authentication, the point is he needs to edit whatever corresponding auth entries exist outside of /etc/passwd |
| 11:31.38 | tarzeau | yang: use telnet |
| 11:31.51 | tarzeau | yang: or the other gnu ssh server, you have it running right? |
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| 11:32.20 | yang | it also gave me Public key error |
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| 11:34.10 | eleftherios | installing udev suggests I purge the hotplug package which is already removed. Does anyone know what files I need to remove? |
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| 11:34.58 | resiak | eleftherios: dpkg --purge hotplug |
| 11:35.01 | resiak | eleftherios: (Hi, by the way.) |
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| 11:35.56 | eleftherios | resiak, ah, thank you! |
| 11:36.07 | eleftherios | resiak, I will be in Oxford in a week |
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| 11:37.00 | Oncer | Excuse me, I have a problem with mysql-server-5.0 from unstable |
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| 11:37.20 | resiak | Have you checked the BTS? |
| 11:37.32 | Oncer | BTS? Where? |
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| 11:37.38 | resiak | !btssmite Oncer |
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| 11:39.25 | Oncer | Ok, sorry, but my bug isn't listed there. Furthermore I don't think it really is a bug. Maybe it's just me. |
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| 11:39.56 | _el | hi |
| 11:40.03 | Oncer | When I type "help contents" to show help contents, it displays "nothing found". I checked the help tables and they are empty |
| 11:40.24 | Oncer | Do I have to install an additional package to get the mysql server help? |
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| 11:41.20 | Oncer | So, is anyone able to help me? |
| 11:41.45 | rulesnut | man mysql |
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| 11:43.45 | Oncer | That doesn't help me. Server-side help isn't described there |
| 11:44.12 | rulesnut | what are you trying to do |
| 11:44.17 | electuZ | hi |
| 11:44.28 | liable | wtf? why the hell did dpkg say that?.. |
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| 11:44.47 | Oncer | mysql gives me the mysql console |
| 11:45.16 | Oncer | there I can type things like "USE db_name", "SELECT bla FROM bla WHERE bla", etc. |
| 11:45.22 | r_marvin | do a funny thing |
| 11:45.24 | rulesnut | ok |
| 11:45.36 | r_marvin | hmm |
| 11:45.40 | Oncer | And there is also an option to show help for mysql commands |
| 11:45.52 | Oncer | and that doesn't work because the internal mysql help tables are EMPTY |
| 11:46.12 | Oncer | So when I type "help contents" to show the help contents it shows me nothing at all |
| 11:46.19 | Oncer | "Nothing found" |
| 11:46.21 | rulesnut | why not just use phpmyadmin |
| 11:46.45 | rulesnut | mysql does not have man pages |
| 11:47.11 | rulesnut | well, it does.. but not "help" stuff |
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| 11:47.33 | rulesnut | you have to use the mysql docs or phpmyadmin |
| 11:48.00 | rulesnut | I think there is an install for the docs |
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| 11:50.59 | Carlos_Alex | Hi there... |
| 11:50.59 | Carlos_Alex | Im back |
| 11:51.07 | rulesnut | welcome back |
| 11:51.36 | darkstego | hi, I am having problem installing synaptic from "unstable" I get an error on a dependency with a virtual package |
| 11:51.51 | darkstego | although I should have the dependency resolved |
| 11:52.08 | ick | I think I want to use LVM, but I can't really see whether I have to create a root partition. I do have to make a /boot though when I want to use GRUB. For the /boot 50 MB would be enough, right? Or should I use more? |
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| 11:53.26 | ick | ick: I mean whether I have to create one outside LVM. |
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| 11:53.52 | S4nD3r | Hi there |
| 11:53.59 | S4nD3r | I came back. |
| 11:54.03 | S4nD3r | Now I installed sarge |
| 11:54.18 | S4nD3r | 3.1 |
| 11:54.52 | S4nD3r | How do I create a user, with root rights and hidden this user ??? |
| 11:55.06 | valdyn | S4nD3r: why would you do that? |
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| 11:56.05 | [Bart] | I think S4nD3r wants to create a `backdoor` :) |
| 11:56.13 | ick | anyone? |
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| 11:56.37 | [Bart] | whats the question ick? |
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| 11:57.02 | ick | I think I want to use LVM, but I can't really see whether I have to create a root partition. I do have to make a /boot though when I want to use GRUB. For the /boot 50 MB would be enough, right? Or should I use more? |
| 11:57.07 | ick | I mean whether I have to create one outside LVM. |
| 11:57.53 | [Bart] | I`m always using LVM. But for /boot and / I`m not using lvm. My /boot is 100 Mb |
| 11:58.17 | ick | [Bart]: and your / ? I will install a lot of software. |
| 11:58.40 | S4nD3r | Because Im at workplace, but the network administrator doesnt know linux |
| 11:59.01 | S4nD3r | and, I need to add user to network, setup firewall, squid.. |
| 11:59.03 | valdyn | S4nD3r: that doesnt make sense at all |
| 11:59.08 | [Bart] | ick : you should avoid installing software on the / . Create an LVM for /usr , /opt/ , /home, /tmp, /var |
| 11:59.15 | valdyn | S4nD3r: so use root for that |
| 11:59.22 | S4nD3r | The only thing done by him, was change the root password |
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| 11:59.47 | S4nD3r | I need to stop my worries with them.... |
| 11:59.52 | ick | [Bart]: Ok, thanks. And this LVM thing is stable? |
| 11:59.58 | S4nD3r | I was network administrator some time ago |
| 12:00.06 | valdyn | S4nD3r: you cannot avoid root fucking up things if he tries to |
| 12:00.15 | S4nD3r | but, I preferred keep in teaching job |
| 12:00.21 | [Bart] | ick: I`m already using it for years on business critical machines. So yes , its stable :) |
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| 12:00.34 | ick | [Bart]: But how big should / be then? |
| 12:00.35 | S4nD3r | Im mistake, you are right valdyn |
| 12:00.54 | S4nD3r | So, I really need to stop. Im not Network Administrator anymore |
| 12:01.00 | ick | [Bart]: And what about swap? |
| 12:01.11 | S4nD3r | Fuck him self if dont know make his tasks |
| 12:01.13 | valdyn | !rootkit |
| 12:01.13 | dpkg | rootkit is probably a set of tools that replace the standard Unix utilities like ls and ps in order to hide certain files and processes from the admin. It is a good thing to have a copy of these tools on disk, but that only helps against the weaker rootkits (that don't modify the kernel in place). |
| 12:01.17 | [Bart] | ick: depends how much diskspace you have. I`m always using 2G for / . Swap cant be on LVM |
| 12:01.41 | ick | [Bart]: I have 160GB for the total Debian system. |
| 12:01.59 | [Bart] | ick : thats enough :) |
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| 12:02.23 | S4nD3r | How do I delete a partition in only a command ? |
| 12:02.43 | rvalles | how come there isn't a debian package for mplayer? |
| 12:02.55 | [Bart] | rvalles : license stuff I think |
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| 12:03.05 | liable | !tell rvalles about mplayer |
| 12:03.06 | ick | [Bart]: What stuff is placed in those 2GB then? /lib? |
| 12:03.20 | S4nD3r | I will to fuck off this PC, delete all datas |
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| 12:03.40 | S4nD3r | I will cron a script to do that at morning.... |
| 12:03.48 | rvalles | barryh: mplayer was gpl last time I checked.. |
| 12:03.50 | [Bart] | ick : /lib and /sbin /bin . And also spare stuff in case of core files etc |
| 12:03.56 | S4nD3r | I hate him, because didnt tell me that changed the root password. |
| 12:04.15 | S4nD3r | Theres nobody here that uses linux, only I know a little |
| 12:04.17 | Eulex | rvalles, patent stuff. and there are debian packages for it, though they're unofficial |
| 12:04.18 | ick | [Bart]: but 2GB is already more than enough? Or should I just do 5GB to be on the save side? |
| 12:04.25 | S4nD3r | its so complicated |
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| 12:04.30 | [Bart] | ick : 2 gig should be ok |
| 12:05.18 | rvalles | Eulex: but only USA does have software patents! |
| 12:05.29 | rvalles | Eulex: I'm european, why should something as _stupid_ as swpatents affect me? |
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| 12:05.50 | yongwoo | hi |
| 12:06.02 | paulswm | ick: If you don't have a separate /usr and /home filesystems and you want X and some other stuff and space on home, 2GB is not enough |
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| 12:06.20 | rvalles | Eulex: I'm sure debian violates tons of software patents, anyways |
| 12:06.21 | Eulex | rvalles, because debian cd's and mirrors are all over the world, including the US |
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| 12:06.49 | valdyn | S4nD3r: this whole situation sounds like if you just add a random user with UID 0 will be all you ever need |
| 12:06.53 | paulswm | ick: nm, I came in on the middle of a conversation, sorry |
| 12:07.05 | ick | paulswm: I will create separate /usr and /home file systems. Thanks for the input though. |
| 12:07.11 | Eulex | rvalles, umh, the cd's are distributed all over the world, mirrors exist all over the world |
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| 12:07.28 | [Bart] | ick: use off course a journaling filesystem on that |
| 12:07.36 | ick | I think I know enough, since I checked it on this Debian system. |
| 12:07.39 | rvalles | Eulex: and since one country does have software patents, the rest of the world should stop development... |
| 12:07.41 | S4nD3r | Ok. |
| 12:07.45 | ick | [Bart]: EXT3 is one. |
| 12:07.45 | S4nD3r | I have another problem |
| 12:07.48 | rvalles | Eulex: yeah, that's right. |
| 12:07.51 | [Bart] | ick : perfect :) |
| 12:07.54 | S4nD3r | I formated my PC |
| 12:07.59 | S4nD3r | Installed Sarge 3.1 |
| 12:08.17 | S4nD3r | And all my user data was in /dev/hda6 that I mounted in /home/sander |
| 12:08.33 | S4nD3r | I changed the owner of this one to user sander |
| 12:08.38 | paulswm | ick: If you create spearate /usr, /var and /home, then your root fs only needs to be about 350MB or less, which also gives you plenty of room for more than one kernel with modules |
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| 12:08.39 | Eulex | rvalles, no. you can easily install mplayer. just add an apt source, apt-get update, then apt-get install mplayer-586 |
| 12:08.44 | S4nD3r | Now, as user I can change datas |
| 12:08.53 | ick | [Bart]: and if I understand correctly, I can also shrink partitions inside a volume group, right? |
| 12:09.01 | S4nD3r | but, Kmail, as to check if I may change datas in that homefolder |
| 12:09.04 | [Bart] | ick : correct |
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| 12:09.28 | ick | [Bart]: well, then indeed it's perfect :) Thanks for your help. :) |
| 12:09.38 | [Bart] | ick: you`re welcome |
| 12:09.46 | rvalles | Eulex: but debian itself doesn't have it |
| 12:09.48 | rvalles | Eulex: so bad. |
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| 12:10.01 | S4nD3r | kmail doesnt work |
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| 12:10.25 | wickedpuppy | whats dpkg for rpm -Va ? verify all |
| 12:10.32 | [Bart] | pualsum: regarding the 350M. You need to play safe. If you install non default software it can maybe install the software in / (thats not good I know, but it happens) |
| 12:10.55 | valdyn | wickedpuppy: that is in the debian reference somewhere, debsums is used for that |
| 12:11.02 | Eulex | rvalles, not debian's fault. did you come here for anything else than whining? |
| 12:11.03 | valdyn | !reference |
| 12:11.03 | dpkg | it has been said that reference is The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 12:11.40 | S4nD3r | My user Sander theres rights to write in Mail folder |
| 12:11.43 | S4nD3r | I dont know what to do |
| 12:11.46 | rvalles | Eulex: yeah... when I ask dpkg about marillat, he doesn't know? |
| 12:11.52 | rvalles | Eulex: what's the apt-line for that? |
| 12:12.02 | valdyn | S4nD3r: chown -R sander.sander /home/sander |
| 12:12.10 | S4nD3r | I did |
| 12:12.24 | valdyn | S4nD3r: including that -R ? |
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| 12:12.28 | S4nD3r | yes |
| 12:12.29 | Eulex | who the <beep> removed the marillat fact? |
| 12:12.41 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 12:12.49 | valdyn | !test |
| 12:12.49 | dpkg | No, valdyn, you're not online any more. |
| 12:12.50 | roob | How can I view a list of files that are in a package? |
| 12:12.54 | azeem | !factinfo marrilat |
| 12:12.54 | dpkg | azeem: there's no such factoid as marrilat |
| 12:13.02 | S4nD3r | /dev/hda6 /home/sander reiserfs defaults 0 0 |
| 12:13.04 | valdyn | Eulex: some moron |
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| 12:13.05 | S4nD3r | the fstab entry |
| 12:13.23 | Eulex | rvalles, anyway, http://debian.video.free.fr/, and scroll down |
| 12:13.38 | Eulex | valdyn, obviously |
| 12:13.46 | azeem | dpkg, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 12:13.46 | dpkg | i already had it that way, azeem |
| 12:13.51 | azeem | heh |
| 12:14.04 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 12:14.10 | valdyn | hmm |
| 12:14.16 | valdyn | dpkg, marillat |
| 12:14.22 | azeem | did it just die again? |
| 12:14.24 | azeem | !test |
| 12:14.24 | dpkg | Yes, azeem, you're still online. |
| 12:14.25 | Eulex | seems like dpkg has a split personality... |
| 12:14.27 | azeem | hem |
| 12:14.32 | valdyn | azeem: just db problems |
| 12:14.34 | azeem | !factinfo marillat |
| 12:14.34 | dpkg | marillat -- last modified at Sun Sep 25 01:28:29 2005 by Guerin!n=magpie@60.197.208.47; it has been requested 360 times, last by sfullenwider, 9h 56m 16s ago. |
| 12:14.43 | azeem | ok |
| 12:14.48 | valdyn | !listkeys marillat |
| 12:14.50 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'marillat' by key (7): _default marillat key ;; marillat mirrors ;; _default marillat ;; #debian marillat ;; marillat key ;; marillat ;; marillat-key. |
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| 12:14.54 | S4nD3r | I dont know what is wrong |
| 12:14.55 | parax | hi |
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| 12:15.16 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 12:15.28 | valdyn | dpkg, forget marillat |
| 12:15.48 | S4nD3r | !dpkg permission |
| 12:15.54 | S4nD3r | dpkg permission |
| 12:16.04 | roob | Is there no way to see what files are in a package? Maybe with aptitude |
| 12:16.06 | parax | I'm looking for a tool to install to a system the same packages that another, and delete non-matched packages (to simplify administration). does it exist? |
| 12:16.20 | [Bart] | roob: dpkg -L [package] |
| 12:16.27 | rvalles | 13:10:36 [freenode] [dpkg(n=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg)] i dunno what is 'marillat'. |
| 12:16.29 | roob | Bart: thanks |
| 12:16.36 | valdyn | dpkg: no, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 12:16.36 | dpkg | valdyn: okay |
| 12:16.50 | rvalles | a few minutes ago... |
| 12:16.55 | rvalles | this bot's so broken :P |
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| 12:17.07 | S4nD3r | maybe can that umask ? |
| 12:17.24 | valdyn | S4nD3r: ls -ld /home/sander |
| 12:17.31 | valdyn | S4nD3r: ( when its mounted ) |
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| 12:17.40 | S4nD3r | drwxrwxrwx 56 sander root 2816 2005-12-03 10:12 /home/sander/ |
| 12:17.58 | valdyn | S4nD3r: mount | grep sander |
| 12:18.01 | parax | a simple script for package reconciling may be useful too |
| 12:18.02 | S4nD3r | uid=1068(sander) gid=0(root) grupos=0(root),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev) |
| 12:18.13 | S4nD3r | /dev/hda6 on /home/sander type reiserfs (rw) |
| 12:18.19 | valdyn | S4nD3r: why did you lie to me |
| 12:18.34 | valdyn | S4nD3r: RUN this command : 'chown -R sander.sander /home/sander' |
| 12:19.11 | S4nD3r | I Theres no this sander.sander |
| 12:19.14 | S4nD3r | theres sander.root |
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| 12:19.52 | jono | dpkg is throwing back errors about configuring mythtv but I know it is fixed - how can I clear the error? |
| 12:20.17 | koczua | hello guys, I have a question regarding LVM and software raid |
| 12:20.22 | S4nD3r | I did as you asked |
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| 12:20.38 | S4nD3r | ls -ld /home/sander/ |
| 12:20.39 | S4nD3r | drwxrwxrwx 56 sander sander 2816 2005-12-03 10:20 /home/sander/ |
| 12:23.40 | parax | i think i found the solution: jablicator |
| 12:23.52 | S4nD3r | valdyn, I dont know what to do |
| 12:24.11 | valdyn | S4nD3r: to achieve what? |
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| 12:24.29 | S4nD3r | I did you asked |
| 12:25.07 | HeMan | i tried debsums but got "Reading from filehandle failed at /usr/bin/debsums line 266, <SUMS> line 17." after a while, what does that mean? |
| 12:25.16 | S4nD3r | only kmail doesnt get to see, that I can write in my homefolder |
| 12:25.42 | valdyn | S4nD3r: leave interpreting error messages to us please |
| 12:25.54 | valdyn | S4nD3r: and just paste errors ( /msg dpkg paste ) |
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| 12:26.27 | koczua | I have LVM utilizing a single partition (/dev/sda3) as a PV. Have just added a second disk and would like to build a mirror on sda3 and sdb3 and to reconfigure LVM to make it using this software raid device instead of the partition. |
| 12:27.03 | S4nD3r | Kmail doesnt can create the folder '$HOME/Mail' |
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| 12:27.24 | S4nD3r | Please, check if you can see and modify the folder /home/sander |
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| 12:27.34 | S4nD3r | Its something like that |
| 12:27.49 | valdyn | S4nD3r: ls -ld $HOME/Mail |
| 12:28.11 | pepsi_ | I have installed a program that is command-line based.. The program lacks support for good line-editing.. eg. backspace does not work as expected. Does anyone know a good trick to encapsulate the program in a line-editing program or something similar? |
| 12:28.15 | S4nD3r | drwxrwxrwx 18 sander sander 1664 2005-12-03 09:15 /home/sander/Mail |
| 12:28.31 | azeem | pepsi_: without major coding work? |
| 12:28.39 | pepsi_ | azeem: yea? :] |
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| 12:28.53 | azeem | pepsi_: I doubt that is possible |
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| 12:29.02 | [Bart] | koczua : why are you using raid with lvm? Can you use the lvm mirroring? |
| 12:29.06 | azeem | pepsi_: check the license of the program, is it GPL? |
| 12:29.18 | azeem | (or GPL-compatible) |
| 12:29.25 | azeem | pepsi_: if so, it could use libreadline |
| 12:29.27 | pepsi_ | azeem: why cant a program just forward my input to the program when I hit enter? |
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| 12:30.17 | pepsi_ | Isnt it possible to write a really really simple "frontend" for the program that has good line-editing? |
| 12:30.18 | S4nD3r | Should I cry ?? Theres no clue ? |
| 12:30.21 | azeem | pepsi_: well, maybe you can. I might not fully understand the issue |
| 12:30.24 | S4nD3r | lol |
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| 12:30.49 | hectorino75 | buenas, ¿alguien sabe que programa se puede usar para partir ficheros mp3 grandes en otros más pequeños? |
| 12:30.54 | azeem | !es |
| 12:30.55 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:30.56 | Eulex | !br |
| 12:30.56 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:31.09 | koczua | Is it possible to add this second PV and to configure mirroring on both PVs without loosing data? |
| 12:31.21 | Eulex | oh yes, it was spanish... |
| 12:31.27 | hectorino75 | sorry, anybody knows any program to split big mp3 files into small mp3 files? |
| 12:31.29 | azeem | Eulex: I was just wondering :) |
| 12:31.31 | ick | I created one volume group, but I don't see where I can create /usr etc. I thought it would be a logical volume group, but it isn't. |
| 12:31.45 | azeem | hectorino75: I think audacity might be able to |
| 12:31.52 | azeem | hectorino75: but maybe that will decode/reencode |
| 12:32.01 | valdyn | hectorino75: apt-cache search mp3 split |
| 12:32.04 | marculix | hectorino75: http://www.puchalla-online.de/cutmp3.html |
| 12:32.15 | pepsi_ | azeem: the program I'm using lacks support for backspace etc. Is there any program out there that starts a given program in the background, connects itself to the programs i/o.. then acts as a layer between me and the program, letting me edit lines in a good way befor sending it to the program? |
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| 12:32.37 | pepsi_ | and forwards the output of the program to me |
| 12:32.45 | azeem | pepsi_: really, I don't know of such a program |
| 12:32.49 | valdyn | pepsi_: if your program took intput from STDIN that would be easy.. does it though? |
| 12:33.01 | pepsi_ | valdyn: good question.. I'll check |
| 12:33.03 | hectorino75 | azeem, valdyn , marculix , thank you all |
| 12:33.05 | azeem | you could just copy/paste input from another terminal perhaps? |
| 12:33.31 | azeem | pepsi_: also, check whether that program perhaps can be optionally used with libreadline, then you could build it locally |
| 12:33.32 | pepsi_ | well I'm about to do a 4-hour lab in this program |
| 12:33.41 | azeem | would be less stressful |
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| 12:34.18 | S4nD3r | valdyn, |
| 12:34.26 | pepsi_ | valdyn: It takes commands from stdin.. so. should I write the "middle"-lineediting-program myself or is there one out there? |
| 12:34.28 | S4nD3r | /dev/hda6 /home/sander reiserfs defaults 0 0 |
| 12:34.29 | ick | [Bart]: I have created one big volume group, but I can't add logical volume groups anymore, since all the space is used by the volume group? |
| 12:34.30 | S4nD3r | /dev/hda6 /home/sander reiserfs defaults 0 2 |
| 12:34.38 | S4nD3r | Is correct that last number ?? |
| 12:34.39 | azeem | pepsi_: any sane editor? |
| 12:34.47 | pepsi_ | azeem: ? |
| 12:34.51 | valdyn | pepsi_: echo "command" | program ( does that work ? ) |
| 12:35.08 | pepsi_ | valdyn: yes. that works |
| 12:35.28 | valdyn | pepsi_: so you could use that or is that not good enough? |
| 12:35.36 | pepsi_ | I dont want to restart the program for every command though |
| 12:35.43 | valdyn | pepsi_: alright |
| 12:35.53 | valdyn | pepsi_: mkfifo /tmp/input |
| 12:35.54 | pepsi_ | the program has different states.. sort of a shell I guess |
| 12:36.08 | pepsi_ | valdyn: now your talking.. I'll check that one out! |
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| 12:37.08 | omry | pepsi_, I am not sure you need a fifo. maybe you can just do it with cat |
| 12:37.17 | omry | cat | program |
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| 12:37.33 | [Bart] | koczua :yes |
| 12:37.44 | S4nD3r | yes or no ? |
| 12:37.55 | S4nD3r | valdyn, I have chance to solve this problem ?? |
| 12:37.58 | [Bart] | koczua : just a the disk to the vg , and then activate mirror on the lv |
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| 12:38.09 | azeem | omry: would you have advanced line-editing capabilities by using cat, though? |
| 12:38.09 | S4nD3r | Or I need to format my partition? |
| 12:38.11 | pepsi_ | orafu: nope.. that did not work :/ |
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| 12:38.26 | valdyn | S4nD3r: run kmail from a shell and look at the debugging output if there's any |
| 12:38.26 | omry | azeem, at least backspace :) |
| 12:38.45 | pepsi_ | I can start the program in an emacs-buffer.. that works fine.. is this the best way to do it? |
| 12:38.59 | S4nD3r | DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-8723' to 'kmail' |
| 12:38.59 | S4nD3r | ERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed. |
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| 12:39.27 | valdyn | S4nD3r: quit your X completely, log back in |
| 12:39.43 | ick | [Bart]: Shouldn't I create logical volume groups? |
| 12:39.51 | valdyn | pepsi_: using a fifo doesnt work? |
| 12:40.07 | pepsi_ | valdyn: I couldn't figure out how to continue after your line :/ |
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| 12:40.23 | valdyn | pepsi_: program < /tmp/input |
| 12:40.27 | pepsi_ | heh |
| 12:40.34 | omry | valdyn, why an explicit fifo? a pipe between cat and his program will not do? |
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| 12:40.45 | valdyn | pepsi_: then run commands via 'echo <command> > /tmp/input' |
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| 12:40.56 | npx | morning #debian |
| 12:40.57 | Zap-W | . /usr/bin/setterm -blank 0 >/dev/tty1 dosent work tty1 still blanks out |
| 12:41.03 | valdyn | omry: sure |
| 12:41.07 | S4nD3r | logout |
| 12:41.07 | S4nD3r | and login |
| 12:41.07 | S4nD3r | ready |
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| 12:41.11 | S4nD3r | nothing changes |
| 12:41.19 | pepsi_ | uhm.. that seems tricky.. |
| 12:41.31 | pepsi_ | It could be automated though.. I'll try |
| 12:41.54 | [Bart] | ick: first create the PV (pvcreate /dev/sdX). Then create the vg (vgcreate vg00 /dev/sdX), en create the LV (lvcreate -n lvusr -L 2G vg01) |
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| 12:42.19 | valdyn | S4nD3r: log out again, kill all of sanders processes |
| 12:42.30 | [Bart] | ick : and then the FS offcourse : mkfs.ext3 /dev/vg00/lvusr |
| 12:42.46 | omry | pepsi_, try cat | program |
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| 12:42.54 | S4nD3r | I will do that |
| 12:42.56 | [Bart] | koczua : lvextend -m 1 /dev/[vg]/[lv] |
| 12:42.57 | pepsi_ | omry: did that.. |
| 12:43.02 | omry | and? |
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| 12:43.17 | npx | [Bart], that looks dead easy! |
| 12:43.20 | npx | =O |
| 12:43.27 | pepsi_ | valdyn: "file exists" on the echo line |
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| 12:43.50 | omry | pepsi_, replcace > with >> |
| 12:44.08 | [Bart] | koczua : I never did this on debian, but should be the same |
| 12:44.37 | npx | One thing I find confusing about debian is that there's often a much easier "debian way" to do something, and I have no idea what it is |
| 12:44.59 | pepsi_ | omry: that worked better, but the command I tried to input ran over and over again in infinite speed :] |
| 12:45.24 | usn | hi folx |
| 12:45.31 | [Bart] | npx: thats with everything. Sonetimes you`re doing 10 things while you can do it in 1 line.. |
| 12:45.38 | omry | pepsi_, your program opens the input stream again and again or something? |
| 12:45.50 | pepsi_ | omry: I have no idea |
| 12:45.59 | omry | pepsi_, what is that program anyway? |
| 12:46.15 | npx | yeah, true enough... that doesn't make me feel any smarter when I find the one-line method though =P |
| 12:46.21 | pepsi_ | omry: its called cwb.. concurrent work bench.. used in formal verification methods (ccs) |
| 12:46.26 | [Bart] | npx :) |
| 12:47.25 | omry | pepsi_, dunno that program, but what valdyn suggested should work. it sounds like a bug in that program. |
| 12:48.15 | omry | pepsi_, try : mkfifo fifo;cat > fifo , in another terminal do "cat fifo" and see that whatever you write in the first terminal appears once in the second. |
| 12:48.17 | valdyn | that "file exists" error doesnt make sense with a fifo |
| 12:48.49 | valdyn | so there was no fifo i bet |
| 12:48.57 | ick | [Bart]: I am installing Debian. So I "had" to do it via the menus. I think it worked now, but imho I didn't do anything different then the two attempts before the last try. |
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| 12:49.34 | pepsi_ | valdyn: thx for your help.. its a cool way to do it.. I'll stick with emacs tho.. it works nice |
| 12:49.43 | [Bart] | ick: if youdid it with the install menu, it should work.. thats quite easy |
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| 12:50.43 | S4nD3r | valdyn, |
| 12:50.44 | S4nD3r | Reay, |
| 12:50.48 | S4nD3r | I restarted the PC |
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| 12:51.01 | omry | valdyn, in fact, it doesn't even make sense for a file.. > overwrite.. |
| 12:51.11 | valdyn | omry: yea |
| 12:51.13 | ick | [Bart]: yes, it should, but it didn't work the first time for some odd reason. I think a volume group of size "max size" was automatically created, or well whatever, it works now. |
| 12:51.13 | S4nD3r | DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-1776' to 'kmail' |
| 12:51.13 | S4nD3r | ERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed. |
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| 12:51.44 | Thanatermesis | i need to add extra modules in my own kernel builded with make-kpkg, how to add this if the modules don't have the "debian" dir ? |
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| 12:52.31 | [Bart] | ick: perfect ;) now you can enjoy lvm :) |
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| 12:54.04 | tarzeau | Thanatermesis: what modules are that? |
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| 12:54.24 | larmer | Hi. Could you tell me how to install OpenMotif? How to unpack and install a rpm package? |
| 12:54.42 | tarzeau | larmer: rpm -i the.rpm ? |
| 12:54.46 | azeem | larmer: alien can install rpms, but that is really discouraged |
| 12:54.47 | tarzeau | larmer: or use alien on it |
| 12:54.54 | tarzeau | larmer: or use the source of it and build manually |
| 12:55.13 | larmer | tarzeau, ok I'll try rpm -i |
| 12:55.26 | valdyn | larmer: why dont you install libmotif3 ? |
| 12:55.36 | valdyn | larmer: instead of using non-debian things |
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| 12:55.43 | sdakota | hi |
| 12:55.49 | Thanatermesis | tarzeau a lot of misc modules, webcam, modems usb, nvidia.. etc |
| 12:55.56 | valdyn | !info libmotif3 |
| 12:55.58 | dpkg | libmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section non-free/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 1213 kB, Installed size: 3056 kB |
| 12:56.36 | larmer | valdyn, I don't know what to use. I was told that OpenMotif is a good one. I have to install some Motif in order to get Opera plugins to work. I don't know what Motif is |
| 12:57.01 | S4nD3r | valdyn, Yes |
| 12:57.06 | S4nD3r | Nothing worked |
| 12:57.43 | valdyn | S4nD3r: no idea then what you did to your system, i'd create a new user and use that one, and copy your data to that new user as you need it |
| 12:57.45 | sdakota | does Debian have a server setup? |
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| 12:58.05 | valdyn | larmer: try the debian packages, easier |
| 12:58.20 | larmer | valdyn, ok, but apt-get didn't find libmotif3 |
| 12:58.27 | valdyn | !non-free |
| 12:58.27 | dpkg | hmm... non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 12:58.29 | S4nD3r | Good idea, I didnt thing on it |
| 12:58.33 | valdyn | larmer: becauae its non-free |
| 12:58.49 | larmer | valdyn, well what do you recommend me to do? |
| 12:58.56 | azeem | oh, is it still? |
| 12:59.03 | valdyn | larmer: to read what dpkg said and follow the instructions |
| 12:59.04 | sdakota | does Debian have a server setup? |
| 12:59.15 | valdyn | sdakota: no, what are you trying to do? |
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| 12:59.48 | sdakota | valdyn, I'd like to install Debian on my server |
| 12:59.57 | valdyn | sdakota: so just do that.. |
| 13:00.11 | sdakota | valdyn, but I don't want lots of unneeded desktop packages |
| 13:00.19 | valdyn | sdakota: so dont install them |
| 13:00.35 | valdyn | sdakota: debian installs nothing like that unless you explicitely do that |
| 13:01.19 | npx | 2.6ghz opteron = ownage |
| 13:01.22 | sdakota | valdyn: by the way - Ubuntu is installed on it now, can I put a net install image and initrd over the current image file? |
| 13:01.35 | azeem | sdakota: image file? |
| 13:01.49 | sdakota | azeem: vmlinuz |
| 13:02.10 | valdyn | !confuse sdakota |
| 13:02.12 | dpkg | No, who is our mushroom tomorrow, sdakota? pants of the monarchy of tahiti with extra crabpaste |
| 13:02.22 | sdakota | lol |
| 13:02.27 | valdyn | !d-i |
| 13:02.27 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 13:02.41 | valdyn | sdakota: burn disk, insert it, click mouse a few times, done |
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| 13:02.55 | azeem | sdakota: do you want to replace Ubuntu with Debian or what? |
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| 13:03.06 | azeem | sdakota: or do some live kernel change and keep Ubuntu? |
| 13:03.20 | sdakota | valdyn: there's something wrong with the CD reader of my server - that's why I'd rather use any way of installing, except the CD install... |
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| 13:03.26 | sdakota | azeem: replace Ubuntu |
| 13:03.27 | larmer | valdyn, dpkg's instructions don't tell me anything useful |
| 13:03.37 | elirips | hello people. i have here an hp laserjet 1200 installed with cups. it is working fine. what is the easiest way to share this printer with a windows-computer? |
| 13:03.39 | azeem | sdakota: do you have another partition? |
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| 13:03.43 | elirips | i am using debian sarge |
| 13:03.55 | valdyn | larmer: ill quote dpkg for you: " add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line" |
| 13:04.03 | azeem | sdakota: if so, you could just use debootstrap to get a base Debian system on the other partition, install a kernel and adjust your GRUB config |
| 13:04.07 | azeem | basically |
| 13:04.42 | sdakota | azeem: HDA: 1. boot 500 MB 2. swap 1gb 3. backup 4.9gb HDE: 1. root 34.1GB 2. backup 4.9gb 3. swap 1 GB |
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| 13:04.51 | dave_n | elirips: Use samba. |
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| 13:05.25 | elirips | dave_n: what about ipp? |
| 13:05.29 | valdyn | elirips: windows can print directly to cups after your change the IP restriction(s) in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf |
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| 13:05.45 | npx | Yeah it beats the shit out of configuring samba |
| 13:06.14 | valdyn | elirips: then windows can print to "http://server:631/printers/printer |
| 13:06.47 | valdyn | elirips: XP at least can, im not sure about older versions |
| 13:06.49 | sdakota | azeem: would it work if I download the net install, copy it to /dev/hda1 (/boot) and replace the images? grub will boot them |
| 13:06.53 | npx | Windows 2k can do it too. |
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| 13:07.47 | elirips | valdyn: thank you, the other computer is indeed a win-xp-computer. i'm going to look at cupsd.conf.. until now i never edited that file |
| 13:08.13 | valdyn | elirips: search for <Location /> |
| 13:08.13 | azeem | sdakota: what do you want to replace the netinstall with? |
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| 13:08.34 | sdakota | azeem: no, replace the old ubuntu images and place the netinstall óver them |
| 13:08.39 | valdyn | elirips: Allow From 127.0.0.1 should be there, just add yours |
| 13:09.03 | azeem | sdakota: but the netinst is a .iso image and vmlinux is a kernel image? |
| 13:09.06 | adii | hello, i'm using etch ... my internet connection is really slow, i wonder whether it is due to "me" or due to my ISP , how can i know |
| 13:09.53 | azeem | sdakota: anyway, just replacing the kernel images will not make your Ubuntu system become Debian |
| 13:09.59 | azeem | off for lunch now, bbl |
| 13:10.10 | elirips | valdyn: do you know how i can tell it to allow everything like 192.168.1.*? |
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| 13:10.29 | larmer | valdyn, too difficult. I added it to the file and it resulted an error "type 'contrib' is not known" |
| 13:10.35 | valdyn | elirips: Allow From 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 13:10.49 | valdyn | larmer: show me the whole line |
| 13:10.49 | elirips | valdyn: thanks. |
| 13:11.05 | valdyn | elirips: i have no idea if your syntax isnt legal too |
| 13:11.06 | larmer | valdyn, E: Type 'contrib' is not known on line 8 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:11.17 | valdyn | larmer: no, the whole line you edited |
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| 13:11.44 | larmer | valdyn, well I put 'contrib non-free' in the end of sources.list |
| 13:11.58 | larmer | valdyn, I have no idea where I should put it instead |
| 13:11.59 | valdyn | larmer: oh why do you make this hard for me, paste the whole line |
| 13:12.07 | valdyn | larmer: at the end of a line as dpkg said |
| 13:12.11 | larmer | valdyn, contrib non-free |
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| 13:12.35 | valdyn | larmer: 'deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free' |
| 13:12.43 | valdyn | larmer: for instance ^^^ |
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| 13:13.06 | larmer | valdyn, ok I'll try |
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| 13:14.28 | sdakota | azeem: I know that replacing will not make my system Debian... but if I extract the files from the iso and place them in the /boot partition, then replace the images, will GRUB start the installation process automatically? |
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| 13:15.03 | larmer | valdyn, ok apt-get gave me a horrible list of errors and in the end: "Couldn't find package libmotif3". I give up, thanks for helping efforts. |
| 13:15.17 | [Bart] | koczua : let me check on debian |
| 13:15.37 | valdyn | larmer: you probably forgot to run 'apt-get update' |
| 13:15.53 | adii | which programs are known to make internet lag ? |
| 13:17.01 | harleyg | http://linuxlabs.co.uk/vote/ |
| 13:17.04 | sdakota | if I extract the files from the netinstall .iso and place them in the /boot partition (and eventually symlink the vmlinuz/bzImage and initrd), will GRUB start the installation process automatically? |
| 13:17.22 | paulswm | Well, poff and ifdown will sure slow it up |
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| 13:19.04 | sdakota | i'll just try to do that >.< |
| 13:19.39 | CleineR19 | hi |
| 13:19.41 | larmer | valdyn, never heard that command needs to be run :) |
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| 13:19.49 | rohan | hi al |
| 13:19.50 | larmer | valdyn, I got it |
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| 13:20.12 | rohan | i hope it is not a silly question .. but i am confused. what should i choose ? ubuntu or debian ? and why ? :( |
| 13:20.35 | valdyn | rohan: this channel supports only debian |
| 13:20.55 | rohan | valdyn: oh.. wrong place to ask my question ? |
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| 13:21.08 | CleineR19 | my englýst ýsýnt goot |
| 13:21.08 | BusMaster | rohan, debian q's on #debian, ubuntu q's on #ubuntu :) |
| 13:21.15 | valdyn | !why debian |
| 13:21.15 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 13:21.26 | rohan | BusMaster: and q's involving both ? :) |
| 13:21.29 | valdyn | rohan: ^^ though that wouldnt really have convinced me |
| 13:21.42 | [Bart] | koczua : use lvconvert -m 1 LV be aware that I never tried this before. So try it first with an unimportant LV |
| 13:21.48 | BusMaster | rohan, both? well, split them up into sections and ask in the appropriate chan ;-) |
| 13:22.02 | theD3viL | Hm..when i dist-upgrade...where goes OLD packges (programs) and them depencies?? |
| 13:22.09 | rohan | valdyn: thanks :) |
| 13:22.23 | valdyn | theD3viL: /dev/null |
| 13:22.31 | theD3viL | valdyn, all? |
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| 13:23.15 | valdyn | theD3viL: all but configuration files |
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| 13:23.24 | theD3viL | valdyn, example: i have installed ooo1.4 and dist-upgrade where version is 2.0...where will go 1.4 and depencies? |
| 13:23.29 | sdakota | how to put an img to a floppy with windows? |
| 13:23.35 | valdyn | theD3viL: will be removed |
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| 13:24.01 | valdyn | !rawrite |
| 13:24.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rawrite is a program that can write an image to a disk in DOS. You can use it to create Debian boot disks. It can be found at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools |
| 13:24.06 | theD3viL | valdyn, hm...k...but how to system knows what to remove ? |
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| 13:24.21 | sdakota | thanks, valdyn |
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| 13:24.49 | valdyn | theD3viL: a new openoffice.org package removes the old package of the same name |
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| 13:25.52 | theD3viL | valdyn, what about if i dont have any to dist-upgrade...and i removed few programs..how to delete (remove) all their depencies? |
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| 13:26.40 | ick | What is a smart host? |
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| 13:27.03 | hxizan | ick, with exim4? |
| 13:27.24 | ick | hxizan: yes, like it's asked in the Debian install. |
| 13:27.46 | edrin | how can i install openoffice 2.0 in my debian testing? |
| 13:27.47 | hxizan | it's smtp relay server |
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| 13:28.38 | ick | hxizan: So, a mail-client communicates to that server, and then that server sends it to a server e.g. at the other side of the world? |
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| 13:29.26 | edrin | hello? |
| 13:29.47 | hxizan | edrin: try to find with http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 13:30.50 | edrin | hxizan: i know it is in debian unstable, but i want to keep my testing whatever i want only oo2.0 |
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| 13:31.40 | hxizan | edrin: try to modify your sources.list with unstable repository |
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| 13:32.57 | hxizan | ick, your smtp agent, exim4, will forward your mail to outside via that smarthost |
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| 13:33.22 | edrin | hxizan: and how do i do this? |
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| 13:33.41 | golya | Hi! If I'd like to make a debian package from source (which can be made with ./configure && make && make install) what should I type instead of the ./configure? |
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| 13:34.51 | hxizan | edrin, add one line similar to your testing but with "unstable" target |
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| 13:35.15 | edrin | hxizan: but in this case wouldn't aptituede update my whole system? |
| 13:35.17 | hxizan | then apt-get update and you can add OO 2.0 |
| 13:35.19 | hxizan | no |
| 13:35.27 | edrin | ? |
| 13:35.27 | hxizan | update, not upgrade |
| 13:35.50 | hxizan | it will only update your packages list |
| 13:35.58 | edrin | and after this remove the line again? |
| 13:36.08 | marc | golya: try using checkinstall for example: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && checkinstall -D this will create a deb file. |
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| 13:36.25 | hxizan | edrin, ;) |
| 13:36.48 | edrin | hxizan: i mean in aptitide pressing "U" wont mutate everything to unstable? |
| 13:36.50 | golya | marc: I remember some packages in the devscripts package, but the name is changed :( |
| 13:36.51 | thma | i feel like such a fool after las night |
| 13:37.05 | ick | hxizan: So it's mailclient=>exim4(mailserver) => smarthost =>(boundary of my computer)=>somebody elses' server? |
| 13:37.08 | hxizan | I dont |
| 13:37.09 | theD3viL | valdyn, in upgrade programs stays ? |
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| 13:37.24 | hxizan | I don't know much about apptitude |
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| 13:37.31 | hxizan | just apt-get ... |
| 13:37.47 | golya | or maybe more possiblities exists to build a deb from source? |
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| 13:38.48 | marc | golya: try one of the dpkg-* tools but i do not really know them, sorry. |
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| 13:42.59 | marc | golya: maybe debuild, take a look at apt-get show devscripts for some info. |
| 13:44.06 | golya | marc: well, this is, what I hunt for, but it already assumes I have a debian/rules file... |
| 13:45.04 | prock | is there an easy way to get a shell script to echo every command it is executing? |
| 13:45.51 | golya | prock: in bash there is a swich, which turns on debugging info, but don't remember the letter |
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| 13:47.37 | prock | golya: -v, thanks :) |
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| 13:48.16 | MacNamera | hi, does anybody know if there is an irc channel+server if you have questions about designing game maps? |
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| 13:48.32 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 13:49.54 | DevilChaos | im having trouble with mount for an nfs partition i get this message: mount: RPC: Program not registered |
| 13:50.13 | [Bart] | DevilChaos : start the nfs daemons |
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| 13:50.32 | DevilChaos | bart: what are the commands please? |
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| 13:51.16 | [Bart] | DevilChaos : /etc/init.d/nfs-common start and /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start |
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| 13:51.26 | DevilChaos | ah yes |
| 13:51.39 | DevilChaos | ty :) |
| 13:51.54 | loca|host | hello |
| 13:52.06 | loca|host | my debian sarge wont detect my pcmcia wireless lan cardbus pc card |
| 13:52.15 | DevilChaos | hi |
| 13:52.26 | MacNamera | no one :-( |
| 13:52.34 | Eulex | loca|host, chipset, manufacturer, model? |
| 13:52.49 | Pho75 | i'm having trouble with my keyboard. i don't know what i did but suddenly any key I press only repeats 10 times and then stops. it's happening in X11 and the console. what's wrong? |
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| 13:53.26 | loca|host | MacNamera, before that, it's the first time i try to install a pcmcia, i insert my card, nothing happens |
| 13:53.29 | DevilChaos | bart:bash: /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server: No such file or directory |
| 13:53.32 | loca|host | is there a service to activate |
| 13:53.34 | loca|host | ? |
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| 13:53.47 | Eulex | loca|host, answer my question above |
| 13:54.22 | [Bart] | DevilChaos : apt-get install nfs-kernel-server |
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| 13:55.31 | loca|host | Eulex, Xterasys, Wireless LAN CardBus PC Card, IEEE802.11b XN-2411B |
| 13:55.38 | Eulex | loca|host, many wireless cards require special drivers |
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| 13:56.24 | Eulex | loca|host, xterasys? never heard, will google. hope they use a common chipset. |
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| 13:56.59 | loca|host | but how debian will detect it wen inserted ? |
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| 13:57.12 | golya | Ah, finally got it |
| 13:57.18 | golya | dh_make is my prog |
| 13:57.25 | nvz | it eont |
| 13:57.30 | nvz | wont even |
| 13:57.33 | nevyn | loca|host: enterasys? |
| 13:57.43 | loca|host | Xterasys |
| 13:57.48 | nevyn | hrm |
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| 14:00.46 | toxicosmos | hi |
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| 14:01.00 | toxicosmos | could you recomend me, some debian's repositories? |
| 14:01.09 | nvz | toxicosmos: apt-setup |
| 14:01.13 | DevilChaos | bart:thanks |
| 14:01.24 | Eulex | loca|host, weee, the chipset of that thing differs between revisions |
| 14:01.34 | theD3viL | toxicosmos, marillat |
| 14:01.42 | Eulex | loca|host, http://www.xterasys.com/faq.htm |
| 14:01.52 | toxicosmos | thanks :D |
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| 14:02.11 | nvz | theD3viL: Marillat is the name of a debian developer, and his repository is not an official debian repo |
| 14:02.11 | golya | toxicosmos: what kind of rep? Just curious |
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| 14:02.27 | Eulex | loca|host, do you have the FCC id of that thing? |
| 14:02.48 | theD3viL | nvz, but everyone need it. Almost everyone |
| 14:02.51 | Unified | is there a program available which formats my hdd in a way, that the data is unrecoverable? |
| 14:02.51 | toxicosmos | open office 2.. |
| 14:02.53 | toxicosmos | amule.. |
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| 14:03.15 | nevyn | Unified: several |
| 14:03.22 | nvz | theD3viL: no they don't. when someone comes in here asking for a debian repository the most two correct answers are apt-setup and apt-spy |
| 14:03.25 | Unified | well, i just need one :) |
| 14:03.28 | golya | Unified: dd is just fine :) |
| 14:03.31 | loca|host | Eulex, FXX ID: MQ4WB2K5 |
| 14:03.31 | rss | hi, is there a way to share files between computers other than SCP/NFS/SAMBA? |
| 14:03.31 | [Bart] | Unified : put it on fire :) |
| 14:03.39 | nevyn | golya: not true |
| 14:03.39 | nvz | theD3viL: dont give out repos in here, especially unofficial ones to cluebies |
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| 14:03.46 | Unified | [Bart] i rather try a software solution ;) |
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| 14:03.53 | [Bart] | Unified :) |
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| 14:04.05 | Eulex | Unified, then it's an rtl-8180... which I actually have one of here, so I know what drivers exist |
| 14:04.09 | nevyn | Unified: hard unrecoverable is a unsolved problem. |
| 14:04.15 | [Bart] | rss: shared storage, or do you want a software solution? |
| 14:04.24 | nevyn | Unified: but wipe should get you started |
| 14:04.36 | nvz | heh, butt wipe |
| 14:04.42 | nevyn | Unified: it's going to take significant time on a large disk. |
| 14:04.45 | Muffie | I was performing a dist-upgrade, then an error related with kernel version stopped the process... Now my X cant start and worst! My USB keyboard is not working!!! What happened? |
| 14:04.49 | golya | nevyn: what about dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdd |
| 14:04.53 | nevyn | Unified: like.. days |
| 14:05.00 | Unified | hm... |
| 14:05.06 | nevyn | golya: completely inadequate |
| 14:05.18 | Eulex | loca|host, you can try the driver at http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ (which I had no luck with) or go try ndiswrapper. those are your options. |
| 14:05.24 | Unified | problem is i want to sell this hdd on ebay, so the data must be unrecoverable |
| 14:05.45 | DevilChaos | rss:why dont you want to use nfs? |
| 14:05.46 | tarzeau | takatumi_: what happened to #bubnbros ? |
| 14:05.51 | nvz | Unified: yeah nothing like the FBI buying your pr0n collection on ebay |
| 14:06.03 | nevyn | Unified: unrecoverable by joe on the street or unrecoverable by the linux ata maintainer or unrecoverable by the NSA |
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| 14:06.18 | nevyn | the first one is dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda |
| 14:06.24 | nevyn | the second is wipe /dev/hda |
| 14:06.27 | Unified | nevyn hey, if i would know in advance who buys it, i would be happy as hell :) |
| 14:06.28 | nvz | next thing you know I am reading about you on the news and laughing my ass off |
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| 14:06.46 | nevyn | the third is attach thermite to disk.. sell pretty lump of slag |
| 14:06.53 | Muffie | anyone knows something that I can do, assuming that I dont have a ps2 keyboard? I have some live cds. Can I mount debian partitions and do something? in order to fix USB keyboard recognition? |
| 14:07.28 | rss | DevilChaos: look for example, if i want more than one guy to modify a python script ... |
| 14:07.34 | tarzeau | where can i check patents? |
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| 14:07.47 | rss | tarzeau: uspto.gov |
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| 14:08.02 | nevyn | Unified: you can make it REALLY hard to recover the data. |
| 14:08.04 | tarzeau | rss: is that worldwide? is there not one for europe and japan? |
| 14:08.09 | Eulex | Unified, afaik it's impossible to make it 100% unrecoverable, just possible to make it really really hard |
| 14:08.16 | rss | tarzeau: USA only |
| 14:08.35 | nevyn | Unified: making it completely unrecoverable means destroying the disk |
| 14:08.37 | rss | tarzeau: should google out for japan and europe |
| 14:08.38 | tarzeau | !patents |
| 14:08.38 | dpkg | it has been said that patents is the devils work and you can quote me on that., or patent search at http://www.patents.ibm.com/ |
| 14:08.38 | Muffie | what should I do to enable USB keyboard recognition again!? |
| 14:09.02 | tarzeau | dpkg patents is also http://www.uspto.gov |
| 14:09.02 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 14:09.09 | Unified | ah well i guess i take this wipe tool |
| 14:09.18 | Unified | auction ends in 6 days, so it has a lot of time :) |
| 14:09.27 | loca|host | Eulex, what's the ndiswrapper ? |
| 14:09.33 | rss | Does Europe has a common patent regulating body? |
| 14:09.45 | Eulex | !ndiswrapper |
| 14:09.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux i386 only. If there is a Linux driver for your card, use that instead; if there isn't, email your manufacturer and ask for one (since it's better for everyone involved if there are real drivers), then ask me about "ndiswrapper one-liner" for information on setting up ndiswrapper. If you don't yet own a card, consider buying one that has real Linux drivers. |
| 14:09.51 | tarzeau | dpkg patents is also www.european-patent-office.org and http://www.jpo.go.jp/ |
| 14:09.51 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
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| 14:10.16 | tarzeau | rss: how would i know? neither turkey nore switzerland are europe |
| 14:10.23 | nevyn | Unified: http://wipe.sourceforge.net/secure_del.html |
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| 14:11.58 | rss | tarzeau: good for you :) |
| 14:12.04 | LFC | Hello, I need some help, could anyone here help me? |
| 14:12.04 | LFC | I installed SuSe10.0 yesterday night. While I ran the INSTALL everything was perfect... The monitor, screen, everything was fine. But at the end of the process the configuration show that I had a monitor called KOREA, that is not actually the one I have, but I thought it would make no difference... NOW when I try to run Linux the screen starts from the beggining completely fu ck up as if my video card and/or monitor had not capacibility to work |
| 14:12.26 | [Bart] | suse ????? |
| 14:12.29 | rss | LFC: This is not SuSe's irc channel |
| 14:12.31 | azeem | LFC: this channel is not about SuSE, but Debian |
| 14:12.43 | azeem | LFC: try #opensuse |
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| 14:13.02 | LFC | Yes... nobody at suse answer me... so I figure you guys could... last time I came here and you all helped me |
| 14:13.08 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 14:13.09 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 14:13.14 | tarzeau | LFC: but we won't |
| 14:13.40 | LFC | Oh man... I am sorry... |
| 14:13.40 | azeem | LFC: this seems like a very suse specific problem we cannot help you with, sorry |
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| 14:14.58 | LFC | but how do u guys configure your video and monitor through the console? |
| 14:15.07 | berzerka | changed permissions of /var/mail to 2775 but thunderbird movemail account still gives lock permission error. |
| 14:15.37 | [Bart] | LFC: yast2 |
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| 14:16.29 | rss | mtor: are you really root? |
| 14:16.30 | rss | !root |
| 14:16.31 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 14:17.14 | marc | LFC: try sax2 |
| 14:17.30 | LFC | how do i open it? |
| 14:17.55 | rss | LFC: Please try another place, like mailing lists? |
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| 14:18.36 | berzerka | never mind i keep trying. |
| 14:18.46 | blondie | LFC: suse sucks |
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| 14:18.52 | tarzeau | LFC: yes using hwinfo --monitor and editing XF86Config-4 |
| 14:18.52 | blondie | install debian and we might help :P |
| 14:19.01 | rss | LFC: http://www.opensuse.org/Communicate |
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| 14:19.17 | LFC | thank u...] |
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| 14:19.31 | DevilChaos | LFC: go to http://www.debian.org and download net install iso for your chipset |
| 14:19.37 | mtor | hi, is there anyone with knowledge in deb package creating, i have some questions about it |
| 14:19.39 | DevilChaos | and burn to cd |
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| 14:19.40 | mtor | plz |
| 14:19.43 | DevilChaos | install |
| 14:19.44 | blondie | chipset? I think you mean architecture |
| 14:19.54 | DevilChaos | duh! |
| 14:20.00 | rss | mtor: go on ask, we have many Debian Maintainers here. |
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| 14:20.07 | golya | mtor: tell!! |
| 14:20.14 | LFC | linux debian is kind of expensive to buy the cds and I dont know how to make my own.. |
| 14:20.23 | DevilChaos | FREE |
| 14:20.30 | golya | LFC??? Install over network |
| 14:20.32 | tarzeau | LFC: it's not expensive |
| 14:20.37 | golya | download the network install CD |
| 14:20.37 | tarzeau | LFC: #ubuntu for free |
| 14:20.37 | Soeki | its free |
| 14:20.38 | rss | LFC: Better get Ubuntu, it is good for beginners |
| 14:20.57 | blondie | download the netinst .iso image, burn to CD, boot from it, install |
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| 14:21.06 | blondie | or do the same with Ubuntu, yes |
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| 14:21.11 | blondie | and then ask #ubuntu ;) |
| 14:21.12 | tarzeau | blondie: i think he's better server with ubuntu when he can't configure X in the console? |
| 14:21.13 | LootBeer | i need a boot floppy disk for my new ubuntu install... anyone can help me?? |
| 14:21.14 | golya | LFC: or better to a CD-RW |
| 14:21.16 | tarzeau | served |
| 14:21.20 | LFC | in Brazil we pay like 4 dollars for the burned cd.... plus shipping... and debian has like 6 cds, riht? |
| 14:21.29 | tarzeau | LFC: only need the first! |
| 14:21.30 | blondie | LFC: no |
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| 14:21.42 | golya | LFC: about 13 :) |
| 14:21.42 | mtor | ok well, i have to make a package for a project at school, this is a package that would install different binaries executables and librairies, I have tried building the package following the maintener guide but after the building process when i type dpkg --contents on the deb files my files are not present in it :s |
| 14:21.48 | rss | LFC: You get Ubuntu CDs for free! |
| 14:21.57 | LFC | wow... |
| 14:22.09 | DevilChaos | LFC:no cdrw? |
| 14:22.10 | rss | LFC: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ |
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| 14:22.15 | LFC | Ok... thank u all... people here and in anoher place told me to try to run sax2... |
| 14:22.20 | LFC | so I'll do it.. |
| 14:22.22 | golya | mtor: If the prog can be build with ./configure && make && make install |
| 14:22.25 | golya | try dh_make |
| 14:22.38 | mtor | i did all the process following the dh_make |
| 14:22.43 | golya | dh_make && debian/rules && make |
| 14:22.48 | mtor | i did that |
| 14:22.57 | LFC | thnak u .. bye |
| 14:22.57 | tarzeau | mtor: so youv'e got no sources? |
| 14:23.01 | mtor | nop |
| 14:23.07 | tarzeau | mtor: what is that software called? |
| 14:23.09 | mtor | only binaries and libraries |
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| 14:23.51 | mtor | it is a set of tools for developping programs for an embedded card based on a powerpc core with linux on it |
| 14:23.58 | mtor | gnu tools |
| 14:24.05 | tarzeau | and it's not on the internet? |
| 14:24.08 | mtor | nop |
| 14:24.15 | rss | mtor: then why don't you have source...? |
| 14:24.40 | mtor | coz the society that sell the card gave all those tools already compiled |
| 14:24.44 | tarzeau | mtor: you might want to look at non-free/contrib packages |
| 14:24.48 | tarzeau | mtor: as an example |
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| 14:24.52 | mtor | and I just need to make an installer |
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| 14:25.00 | rss | mtor: fine |
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| 14:25.17 | tarzeau | mtor: check realplayer and opera packages |
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| 14:25.32 | mtor | why ? |
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| 14:25.39 | tarzeau | mtor: they are binary crap only too |
| 14:25.44 | rss | mtor: See how they work |
| 14:25.48 | tarzeau | mtor: and you can learn from them how to do what you want? |
| 14:26.14 | mtor | so I download those packages and undeb it ? |
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| 14:26.31 | tarzeau | you get the source packages from them |
| 14:26.36 | tarzeau | and then look at debian/* |
| 14:26.56 | rss | Is Jaldhar Vyas here? |
| 14:26.56 | mtor | ok I'll try that thanks :) |
| 14:27.02 | tarzeau | mtor: you're welcome |
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| 14:27.29 | manuel_ | ayuda en español |
| 14:27.38 | manuel_ | un irc en español please |
| 14:27.43 | golya | oh, what the... |
| 14:27.48 | zoila | x/j #debian.es |
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| 14:27.50 | thingfish | #debian-es |
| 14:27.52 | zoila | ? |
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| 14:27.56 | zoila | ah -es |
| 14:28.03 | manuel_ | ok |
| 14:28.09 | golya | I do dh_make && make && make install, and it actually installed the package. How to make a deb file instead? |
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| 14:28.43 | tarzeau | golya: debuild ? |
| 14:29.28 | golya | tarzeau: so, dh_make && debuild |
| 14:29.42 | tarzeau | golya: no, only debuild |
| 14:30.08 | golya | tarzeau: will it create a debian/rules file |
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| 14:30.14 | tarzeau | golya: of couse not |
| 14:30.21 | tarzeau | golya: it will create a deb file |
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| 14:30.33 | tarzeau | you will create a debian/rules file |
| 14:30.35 | golya | tarzeau: from a source? |
| 14:30.46 | tarzeau | from whatever |
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| 14:32.08 | golya | tarzeau: kgergely@pihentagy:/tmp/gimp-2.3.5$ debuild |
| 14:32.08 | golya | debuild: fatal error at line 524: |
| 14:32.08 | golya | cannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere! |
| 14:32.08 | golya | Are you in the source code tree? |
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| 14:32.48 | irvi | hey. in what package i can find hwclock command ? |
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| 14:33.14 | tarzeau | irvi: in util-linux |
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| 14:33.54 | irvi | ok. thanks for help ;-)) |
| 14:34.13 | golya | sorry, 4 lines is too much... |
| 14:34.57 | edrin | when will oo2.0 come to testing? |
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| 14:35.03 | golya | So: cannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere! |
| 14:35.09 | golya | debuild complains about this |
| 14:35.12 | Maledict | OO2 NOW IS ON UBUNTU. |
| 14:35.26 | mtor | have you look at the maintener guide golya ? they explain all that |
| 14:35.39 | POVaddct | Maledict: and caps lock is on your keyboard |
| 14:35.48 | asdfasdf | oo2 is in unstable |
| 14:35.48 | Maledict | i forgot, pardon |
| 14:35.55 | golya | mtor: No, I'm not a maintainer, just wanna get gimp2.3 as a deb |
| 14:36.13 | mtor | yes but even if you're not they explain how to build a deb file |
| 14:36.51 | POVaddct | Maledict: i disabled caps lock in X with xmodmap |
| 14:36.57 | tarzeau | golya: what did you do, download gimp source code from www.gimp.org ? |
| 14:37.03 | golya | Yes. |
| 14:37.08 | tarzeau | golya: debuild is for debian source packages |
| 14:37.22 | tarzeau | golya: basically you want gimp 2.3.5, right? |
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| 14:38.09 | golya | eeer, yes and no. I'm curious how to make a deb from src, so can you drop me that URL about howto make a deb from source? |
| 14:38.28 | tarzeau | golya: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 14:38.31 | Maledict | POVaddct: thanks for hint |
| 14:38.45 | tarzeau | golya: you want to use dh_make |
| 14:38.58 | golya | Yes, that was I tried... |
| 14:39.22 | POVaddct | Maledict: i put xmodmap -e 'remove lock = Caps_Lock' in my .xinitrc |
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| 14:40.34 | tomiq | hi:) do you know how to use dc_gui program? it's a little bit unfamiliar to me.. |
| 14:40.45 | emre_ | I have installed a custom kernel on debian testing. While booting i get an error message that claims / partition on sda is not mountable. I only have a small boot partition and a swap and a ~1.5 terabyte / partition. Any help? |
| 14:40.56 | tarzeau | tomiq: read the manual? |
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| 14:41.14 | tarzeau | emre_: sata? what kernel version exactly? |
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| 14:41.38 | tarzeau | emre_: compiled the raid/sata modular or not at all? |
| 14:41.48 | tomiq | emre_: you have to add boot kernel module for scsi... |
| 14:42.05 | peritus | why should i use debian instead of ubuntu for my desktop? |
| 14:42.10 | tomiq | tarzeau: manual... I want just use it... |
| 14:42.22 | aphexer | I'm trying to create my own package, and dpkg should copy some configfiles over, however I want to ask the user if he's sure he wants to have each file. How can I use this user interaction with .deb? |
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| 14:42.27 | tarzeau | tomiq: yes for this there is the manual |
| 14:42.31 | tomiq | tarzeau: connect to hub.. search.. download... simple.. |
| 14:42.43 | tarzeau | tomiq: READ THE FUCKING MANUAL. YES THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO NOT READ IT |
| 14:43.00 | tarzeau | FUCKING IDIOT |
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| 14:43.17 | pngwn | peritus, who cares what you use? |
| 14:44.07 | pngwn | peritus, try both and stick with the one YOU like |
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| 14:44.13 | emre_ | tomiq: ok let me see |
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| 14:44.20 | tomiq | emre_: have you solved it...? |
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| 14:44.55 | tomiq | emre_: I have done it some week ago... wholy new sata disk... and how to boot it... |
| 14:45.05 | emre_ | tomiq: i'll recompile now |
| 14:45.26 | bobesponja | hey all, i really need help, my hard drive just broke, I remember there is a script that use dd but I can't remember the name |
| 14:45.30 | bobesponja | anyone? |
| 14:45.51 | golya | what'd you like to do? |
| 14:45.52 | aphexer | bobesponja: and the script will fix the harddrive?:) |
| 14:46.12 | emre_ | tomiq: what is the exact name of the kernel config option? |
| 14:46.14 | tomiq | emre_: there is one way - add scsi to initrd and make sure the whole root (boot) system is on this sata... or if you want afterboot connection (eg. mount) use modconf... |
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| 14:46.23 | bobesponja | aphexer no but last time I use it I could make something like dd /dev/hda6 to an iso and it worked |
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| 14:46.38 | bobesponja | aphexer I just want my data back |
| 14:46.40 | emre_ | tomiq: my root is on the only scsi disk so i need it boot time |
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| 14:46.56 | aphexer | anyone knows how to add user interaction into a debian package? I already read the debian maintainers guide... couldn't find it in there |
| 14:47.04 | tomiq | emre_: "ata-piix" to /etc/mkinitrd/modules |
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| 14:47.38 | aphexer | bobesponja: why not boot from a rescuecd and do whatever you would like from there? |
| 14:47.40 | emre_ | tomiq: SCSI support is only as module in the kernel. maybe it will work when I compile it in the kernel? |
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| 14:47.56 | emre_ | tomiq: what does it do |
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| 14:48.21 | tomiq | emre_: and then recompile initrd (or make it automaticaly via apt-get instal --reinstall generic-debian-kernel...) |
| 14:48.34 | Muffie | anyone here has ever used apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 14:48.53 | bobesponja | aphexer that's what I'm doing, I just need to remember the tool that makes an iso out of a /dev/hdxx device |
| 14:48.56 | emre_ | tomiq: is there any way of doing it without initrd |
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| 14:49.14 | tomiq | emre_: it will work... I suppose (I'm not as good in administration, but few days ago this forum helped me) |
| 14:49.20 | omry | Muffie, is the pop jew? |
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| 14:49.36 | Muffie | pop jew? |
| 14:49.39 | ac3 | Is it possible to mount a dir over ssh? |
| 14:49.40 | Muffie | im no jew |
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| 14:49.57 | bobesponja | that's ok I found it http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html in case yo umight care :) |
| 14:50.08 | tomiq | emre_: I think if you want to boot it it's via initrd... if not just make the module available via modconf// |
| 14:50.41 | Muffie | I just have to forget my Debian installation? after a unsucessfull try of performing dist-upgrade? is that it? |
| 14:51.17 | beardy | Muffie: upgrade from what to what? |
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| 14:51.45 | Muffie | beardy: I have used this: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:52.20 | beardy | Muffie: Why? And from which release, to which release have you upgraded, or tried to upgrade. |
| 14:52.48 | tomiq | ac3: ssh just connets to other computer's terminal... so if you mount somethink in there (as root) it will be then mounted to the other computer, not yours.. |
| 14:52.58 | tomiq | ac3: connect via ftp. |
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| 14:53.27 | Muffie | beardy: I was using sarge (I think). Dont know to which one. I thought apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade to the latest |
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| 14:53.38 | POVaddct | ac3: try shfs.sf.net |
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| 14:54.34 | Muffie | beardy: the installation failed with a message about the kernel |
| 14:54.51 | Muffie | beardy: after the reboot, my USB keyboard is not functioning anymore. |
| 14:55.21 | Muffie | beardy: All I can do is mount my / partition inside a Live CD. I want to try to make my USB keyboard to work again |
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| 14:56.26 | ac3 | POVaddct: thx, i´ll try that |
| 14:56.36 | POVaddct | ac3: works fine here |
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| 14:57.33 | Muffie | beardy? |
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| 14:59.11 | nixie | in a 32bit userspace (sarge) enviroinment, should i compile kernels for Athlon64/opteron systems with ARCH=i386? |
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| 15:01.54 | veleno_ | hello. how do i convert a flac file to mp3 ? |
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| 15:02.28 | Maledict | veleno: usa lame |
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| 15:05.01 | veleno_ | Maledict, e come specifico che l'input è un flac ? |
| 15:05.27 | Maledict | devi avere il decoder per flac |
| 15:05.49 | Maledict | esempio: lame <opzioni> - | flac <file da decodificare> |
| 15:05.49 | Eulex | !it |
| 15:05.50 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 15:06.07 | dvs | Eulex: can you do French too? ;-) |
| 15:06.08 | Maledict | xcuse me |
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| 15:06.18 | Eulex | !fr |
| 15:06.19 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 15:07.00 | BruceLeeRoy | what needs to be done to install an external modem on a serial port? |
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| 15:07.20 | dvs | BruceLeeRoy: What do you want to use it for? |
| 15:07.27 | BruceLeeRoy | caller ID |
| 15:07.56 | dvs | BruceLeeRoy: As far as I know you just have to load the proper kernel module which escapes me right now. |
| 15:08.00 | sander | anyone know how to get æøå working in emacs.. need to set the right charset.. or something |
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| 15:08.05 | Eulex | Maledict, that's interesting, italian and french people do understand each other? |
| 15:08.11 | sander | to ISO-8859-1 |
| 15:08.17 | BruceLeeRoy | is it a generic modem driver? |
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| 15:08.28 | dvs | BruceLeeRoy: it's a serial port driver |
| 15:08.28 | misieq | how do i set konqueror 3.5 to show my external hard drive (iriver h120) in media:/ ? in dmesg | tail everything seems to be perfect after connecting it, however i have to mount it manually. I know konq is able to recognize it, as i used that feature in ubuntu and some other distros.... |
| 15:08.29 | Eulex | sander, dpkg-reconigure locales |
| 15:08.35 | POVaddct | BruceLeeRoy: no modem driver, just the serial driver |
| 15:08.43 | BruceLeeRoy | ok, thanks |
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| 15:09.03 | sander | Eulex, its working in X and stuff.. but not in emacs |
| 15:09.04 | Maledict | Eulex: italian and french language are similar, but not equal |
| 15:09.05 | BruceLeeRoy | is there a terminal program I can use to test it with/ send commands, etc? |
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| 15:09.13 | dvs | BruceLeeRoy: minicom |
| 15:09.14 | POVaddct | BruceLeeRoy: you can communicate to the modem via /dev/ttySx device |
| 15:09.17 | BruceLeeRoy | mgetty or something? |
| 15:09.17 | POVaddct | BruceLeeRoy: minicom |
| 15:09.24 | BruceLeeRoy | minicom, cool |
| 15:09.24 | BruceLeeRoy | thanks |
| 15:09.31 | TNKS | hi all. I just read about ClamAV. Do many people use this on their home computers, or is it kind of overkill for the average user? |
| 15:09.32 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai all. I just read about ClamAV. Do many people use this on their home computers, or is it kind of overkill for the average user! |
| 15:09.49 | Maledict | Eulex: I don't understand french very well |
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| 15:10.01 | dvs | dpkg: Hey! bots can't ask questions! ;-) |
| 15:10.05 | blondie | eh |
| 15:10.22 | blondie | TNKS: who runs antivirus software on their desktop linux boxes? ;) |
| 15:10.36 | predius_ | blondie: to scan their windows partitions? |
| 15:10.38 | dvs | blondie: Please.. |
| 15:10.40 | BruceLeeRoy | only on mail server |
| 15:10.42 | freenik | ? |
| 15:11.30 | Eulex | Maledict, ok -- I know that they are similar, but I didn't think an italian would answer in italian when a frenchman asks something in french |
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| 15:12.24 | hoopdr | hi i am having trouble finding a phone number directory program for debian/gnome .. any suggestions? |
| 15:12.24 | dpkg | Many greetings, i am having trouble finding a phone number directory program for debian/gnome .. any suggestions, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
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| 15:12.48 | nixie | dpkg? what are you doing? |
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| 15:13.05 | TNKS | BruceLeeRoy, that was my original thoughts, that clamAV is probably most applicable to systems with many users. |
| 15:13.15 | predius_ | hoopdr: try rubrica. |
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| 15:14.40 | BruceLeeRoy | yea, but I dont see how it can hurt on a stand alone system :) |
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| 15:14.52 | BruceLeeRoy | any recommendations for caller ID software? |
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| 15:15.08 | hoopdr | nothing apt as far as i can see.. |
| 15:15.12 | Eulex | sander, then I dunno |
| 15:15.35 | hoopdr | no packages listed on .org |
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| 15:16.56 | ac3 | How can i make my console (bash) understand utf8? |
| 15:17.00 | hoopdr | is this a dead overflow channel or what |
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| 15:17.29 | valdyn | ac3: bash isnt your console but your shell, which terminal are you trying to use with utf-8 |
| 15:17.31 | Eulex | ac3, dpkg-reconfigure locales and select an utf8 one |
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| 15:18.08 | Eulex | hoopdr, rubrica is in debian. |
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| 15:18.58 | ac3 | valdyn: ssh |
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| 15:19.26 | ac3 | why isn´t utf8 default? |
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| 15:19.38 | blondie | ISM |
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| 15:21.00 | valdyn | ac3: your tty isnt able to properly support UTF-8, only X Terminals are ( that's probably one reason ) |
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| 15:21.28 | valdyn | ac3: ssh isnt a terminal, xterm is. |
| 15:21.34 | ac3 | idd:) |
| 15:22.09 | beardy | ac3: If you want to use it, go ahead, just like you can choose to use any other locale/keymay/charset. |
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| 15:22.42 | valdyn | ac3: also, various GUI toolkits dont support multi-byte charsets ( which UTF-8 is ) |
| 15:23.11 | ac3 | i don´t run a gui, it´s for a server |
| 15:23.21 | datech | Hello, I'm having trouble getting sarge to detect my gameport. Any pointers? |
| 15:23.39 | Eulex | ac3, <valdyn> ac3: your tty isnt able to properly support UTF-8, only X Terminals are ( that's probably one reason ) |
| 15:23.48 | valdyn | ac3: umm, that is irrelevant, since whatever charset that server uses to display something has to be used somewhere |
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| 15:24.29 | loic___ | hello |
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| 15:25.03 | loic___ | i have a very simple firewall script http://pastebin.com/447254, and my /var/log/message is flooded by the ssh packets log, i dont understand as they shouldn t be logged because they are accepted |
| 15:25.03 | Eulex | ac3, is the host or client the one without X? |
| 15:25.07 | Eulex | ac3, or both? |
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| 15:25.14 | loic___ | anyone could have a quicklook at my script to see what s wrong? |
| 15:25.21 | ac3 | I just want to display names (with strange characters) correctly using ldapsearch |
| 15:25.32 | beardy | datech: Load the correct kernel module for your gameport. |
| 15:25.40 | fantomas | Hi. I need a diff utility for xml files. Is there a free one? |
| 15:25.42 | ac3 | client is putty under windows |
| 15:25.52 | datech | beardy: I'm a newbie--- how do I do this? |
| 15:25.58 | valdyn | loic___: logging something doesnt override accept, nor vice versa |
| 15:26.19 | Eulex | ac3, then select the right charset in the session settings. |
| 15:26.32 | cahoot | loic___: change the log level in sshd_conf? |
| 15:26.49 | loic___ | valdyn: you mean if my command log come after the accept it doesn t change anything? |
| 15:26.53 | Eulex | fantomas, I imagine diff can do it. |
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| 15:27.11 | loic___ | valdyn: because all i want is to log the rejected packets, not all the packets |
| 15:27.20 | valdyn | loic___: any LOG addition to your rules doesnt change anything except that that package is logged |
| 15:27.25 | kurumin | speake portuguese |
| 15:27.25 | tomiq | hi:) do you know how to use dc_gui program? it's a little bit unfamiliar to me.. |
| 15:27.35 | Eulex | !pr |
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| 15:27.40 | Eulex | !pt |
| 15:27.41 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 15:27.54 | rvl | hi\ |
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| 15:28.21 | Eulex | tomiq, as you were asked to some time ago, read the manual. |
| 15:28.24 | loic___ | valdyn: is there a tip to log only rejected packets? |
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| 15:28.36 | fantomas | Eulex: unfort. no |
| 15:28.58 | Eulex | fantomas, wha? |
| 15:29.28 | fantomas | Eulex: it can't do it properly. It does know nothing about xml |
| 15:29.45 | ac3 | Eulex: that did the trick, thx |
| 15:29.59 | tomiq | Eulex: there is none |
| 15:30.07 | rvl | my question, i installed my (kubuntu, which is debian based right?), with dutch language. If i compile programs now (./configure, make etc) my gcc gives all the error messages in Dutch. I don't want this. If i get error messages, and i want to look them up on the net, i have to translate them and i don't know if my translation is the right one. So how can i get my english locale back? |
| 15:30.19 | beardy | rvl: /join #kubuntu |
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| 15:30.24 | tomiq | Eulex: nor howto or anything else |
| 15:30.28 | Eulex | fantomas, what does it need to do specially for xml? |
| 15:30.51 | yxa | an installer is asking for Apache's cgi-bin directory. where is that for debian? |
| 15:30.56 | rvl | if i didn't mention that i used kubuntu but debian, what advice would you give me? |
| 15:31.09 | Ronin | rvl: just /j #kubuntu |
| 15:31.20 | vesa__ | hi |
| 15:31.21 | Ronin | they know more about thier distro then we ever would |
| 15:31.35 | rvl | ok.... thx anyway... |
| 15:31.48 | fantomas | Eulex: parse it at least |
| 15:31.48 | datech | How do I load kernel modules in sarge? |
| 15:31.59 | Eclipser | modprobe |
| 15:32.10 | fantomas | Eulex: did you ever work with XML? :) |
| 15:32.18 | kurumin | alguem aqui fala porrttugues |
| 15:32.28 | beardy | rvl: kubuntu is not Debian, and therefore what we say may not work at all, or do more harm than good. So, ask the people that runs the same os as you to help you. |
| 15:32.48 | hoopdr | !pr |
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| 15:33.02 | Eulex | tomiq, there is. dpkg -L dcgui |
| 15:33.03 | Eclipser | !portuguese |
| 15:33.03 | dpkg | i heard portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:33.06 | beardy | s/os/distro |
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| 15:33.35 | PAVrus | Hello all, I need a little help. I have tiny fonts in my XFree86 |
| 15:33.36 | Eulex | fantomas, why does it need to be able to parse the file to see the differences? |
| 15:33.52 | loic___ | anybody know how to tell iptables no to log everything but only the droped packets |
| 15:33.56 | loic___ | ? |
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| 15:34.56 | Eulex | fantomas, for example, diff can't parse C(++) source files, even though it's very good at finding differences between C(++) source files |
| 15:35.31 | fantomas | Eulex: because it is tree-to-tree comparsion, not byte-to-byte. |
| 15:35.38 | beardy | datech: Which kernel are you running? |
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| 15:36.12 | Phroziac | where's the howto on setting ipv6 up on sarge? |
| 15:36.14 | Eulex | fantomas, ah, ok. |
| 15:36.21 | datech | beardy: 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 15:37.27 | Eulex | fantomas, http://diffxml.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:37.34 | fantomas | Eulex: in this sense, smart diff tool for C++ should parse code two :) |
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| 15:39.21 | tomiq | Eulex: well there is no public list in the client, the manual doesn't contain no infaormation how to configure to use.. |
| 15:39.21 | beardy | deta |
| 15:39.34 | Phroziac | where's the howto for setting up ipv6 on sarge? And sorry if i already asked, my connection borked after i joined the first time. |
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| 15:39.50 | fantomas | s/two/too :) |
| 15:39.54 | beardy | datech: Is this gameport on a soundcard, or what kind of gameport is it? |
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| 15:40.16 | datech | beardy: it's in the motherboard |
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| 15:40.51 | beardy | datech: And you are actually going to use it? |
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| 15:41.13 | datech | beardy: I'm desperate to use it! |
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| 15:41.26 | Eulex | tomiq, file:///usr/share/gnome/help/dc_gui/C/index.html |
| 15:41.37 | beardy | datech: Ok. For what, if I may ask? A joystick or..? |
| 15:41.55 | datech | beardy: An old Thrusmaster wheel |
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| 15:42.41 | tomiq | Eulex: I know... I read it... but I found nothing helpful... it just doesn't connect and I don't know why.. |
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| 15:43.29 | Eulex | tomiq, contact the authors in some way... preferably through some mailing list |
| 15:43.31 | lethias | anyone compiled the new kernel 2.6.14 ? |
| 15:43.44 | Eulex | !tell lethias about ask |
| 15:43.55 | razialBG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:44.09 | lethias | I was getting to that |
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| 15:44.24 | tomiq | Eulex: well... I just want to use dc... do you know any working client? |
| 15:44.25 | lethias | I'm having trouble getting make modules to run correctly |
| 15:44.31 | lethias | it ends with errors. |
| 15:44.40 | Eulex | tomiq, I don't use dc and have never used it. |
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| 15:45.10 | netsurf3 | need some help with fluxbox i am setting programs to run in the /~/.fluxbox/start file but they are not running where do i have to edit to make the programs ruin? |
| 15:45.11 | Eulex | tomiq, should be a ton of general dc tuts out there on the net though |
| 15:45.13 | netsurf3 | *run |
| 15:45.33 | razialBG | is there any problem with debian dvds of stable edition because it seam to be 300MB? |
| 15:45.50 | Eulex | netsurf3, #fluxbox |
| 15:45.51 | razialBG | from where i can download the real ones |
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| 15:46.41 | Eulex | razialBG, which way did you attempt to download them? |
| 15:46.56 | tomiq | Eulex: many well working dc clients I know run under MS... even if it is opensource.. |
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| 15:47.15 | razialBG | for ftp? |
| 15:47.18 | beardy | datech: I'm not sure which you should use, (check /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/input/gameport) Try 'modprobe gameport' |
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| 15:47.43 | razialBG | on my university on a pc with windows XP |
| 15:47.56 | razialBG | i use filezilla |
| 15:48.20 | valdyn | razialBG: plenty ftp clients have issues with large file support |
| 15:48.29 | Eulex | razialBG, "Due to space and bandwidth constraints, only very few mirrors are able to supply direct HTTP/FTP download links. These sites may use bandwidth throttling, downloads can be quite slow. Please use jigdo or bittorrent instead. DVD images are only available for some architectures and not on all mirrors." |
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| 15:48.54 | dave_n | Hi, I'm trying to setup dual-head using xinerma. I have a Xpert98 (AGP) and an older cirrus logic (PCI) setup. Both work fine by themselves, but when I set both up to run at the same time, the Xpert98 crashes within a few minutes, and can only be brought back with a reboot. Any ideas on why this is happening? |
| 15:48.54 | dougl | !seen BruceLeeRoy |
| 15:48.54 | dpkg | bruceleeroy <i=BruceLee@siguard.tcenet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 34m 2s ago, saying: 'any recommendations for caller ID software?'. |
| 15:49.44 | tomiq | razialBG: I'd rather use net-installer... it's small.. you will download other features after install of the system.. |
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| 15:49.49 | vesa__ | umm why my firefox is slow? |
| 15:49.58 | tomiq | razialBG: it's quicker |
| 15:50.06 | Eulex | dave_n, what exactly crashes? video card/driver/X? |
| 15:50.08 | tomiq | vesa__: firefox is slow.. |
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| 15:50.35 | dave_n | Eulex: the video card or driver. X remains working fine on the cirrus logic card. |
| 15:50.37 | hawking | vesa__: as I had 256 mb ram it was really killing me but with 512 it's just ok |
| 15:50.45 | vesa__ | How i reboot only Gnome |
| 15:50.54 | SimonRaven | exit x |
| 15:51.11 | hawking | vesa__ logout |
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| 15:51.34 | Eulex | dave_n, have you checked the X log? |
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| 15:53.51 | xored | what FS types are possible for CDRMs / DVDS ? iso9960 |
| 15:53.53 | xored | and ? |
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| 15:54.30 | Bogaurd | is there a command similar to usermod, that will actually show the details of a user? |
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| 15:54.45 | dave_n | Eulex: I get a Unload Module: "ati", unloading module *path*/ati_drv.o near the end of the log. |
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| 15:55.16 | stew | Bogaurd: getent passwd username |
| 15:55.42 | Bogaurd | =) |
| 15:55.45 | Bogaurd | thanks stew |
| 15:55.55 | FrankyFourFinger | is this a correct iptables rule to block any smtp traffic? iptables -I INPUT --protocol tcp --source-port smtp -j DROP |
| 15:56.26 | datech | beardy: I tried what you suggested, and I modprobed all the files in the directory you specified. Still no use. |
| 15:56.53 | bbrazil | FrankyFourFinger: I'd use REJECT, but looks okay |
| 15:57.04 | streuner | FrankyFourFinger: why do you want this at all? |
| 15:57.06 | datech | beardy: there was no 'gameport' file in that directory, but no errors were given when I typed 'modprobe gameport' |
| 15:57.26 | streuner | FrankyFourFinger: if your MTA isn't configured, it does nothing then... |
| 15:57.35 | streuner | FrankyFourFinger: s/does/do/ |
| 15:57.38 | beardy | datech: What happened? Did it say anything at all? |
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| 15:57.44 | FrankyFourFinger | ah some box being flooded with smtp traffic now.. customers ask to block all smtp traffic temporarily.. |
| 15:58.02 | zcram | lol |
| 15:58.04 | datech | beardy: nothing |
| 15:58.17 | FrankyFourFinger | but I inserted that rule, but smtp traffic still occurs when I look with tcpdump :/ |
| 15:58.25 | beardy | datech: 'lsmod | grep gameport' ? |
| 15:58.44 | beardy | detWhen it is succesful, ita says nothing, I noticed now. |
| 15:58.49 | beardy | datech: |
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| 15:59.39 | bbrazil | FrankyFourFinger: it'll still hit the system, but won't do anything |
| 15:59.56 | datech | beardy: gameport 1388 0 [snd-via82xx] |
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| 16:00.15 | FrankyFourFinger | yes idd |
| 16:00.15 | beardy | datech: How do you test it, to know if it's working? Some game, or what? |
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| 16:00.40 | prp | i am using debian, newbie users, and i want to use my tvout on my ati 9200 card, in my research i understood i need fglrx to do that, can someone help me with a link with a tutorial to saftly do that ? |
| 16:00.41 | datech | beardy: the kde control center has a joystick calibration tool |
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| 16:00.54 | datech | beardy: it says no joystick found |
| 16:00.58 | M4hd1 | hi,i just installed debian's xmms-crossfade plugin, restarted xmms and the crossfade plugin does not show on the E/S plugins list even though crossfade.so exists =/ could anybody help me plz? Anybody got it working? |
| 16:01.10 | celtic_hackr | Help please! I can't get OOo to connect to Mozilla's addressbook! Running modified Mepis install. |
| 16:01.18 | Eulex | !mepis |
| 16:01.18 | dpkg | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis |
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| 16:02.53 | streuner | celtic_hackr: we don't support mepis here, just install debian or /j #mepis |
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| 16:03.17 | jbroome | i totally saw his nick as celtic_hooker |
| 16:03.23 | celtic_hackr | I've altered the apt sources. The initial install was Mepis, but it no longer resembles Mepis. Openoffice refuses to connect to the datasource. |
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| 16:03.42 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 16:03.42 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 16:03.46 | imex | morning everyone, just a quick question, is it possible to download security updates and apply later since the pc I am installing Sarge has no internet connection |
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| 16:03.59 | celtic_hackr | Mepis is a flavor of debian. It is no longer Mepis. I only used Mepis to install debian |
| 16:04.14 | streuner | celtic_hackr: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 16:04.30 | dvs | celtic_hackr: Sorry, there still can be remnants of Mepis still around. |
| 16:04.33 | jbroome | celtic_hackr: if it didn't come from debian.org, then it's not debian and isn't supported from here |
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| 16:05.04 | Eulex | imex, download the packages, transfer them, and do dpkg -i on them on the netless box |
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| 16:05.23 | beardy | Silverpil: what card? |
| 16:05.33 | sbk | I'd like to have something vaguely like net-meeting -- but I really only need to have an emacs window visible at both sides (I hope that makes sense.) The constraint is that it's over a long-distance link, so having a low bandwidth protocol to maintain the state is very preferable. I've looked at something as low-tech as dtach -- any other suggestions? |
| 16:05.38 | imex | Eulex, thanks but do u mean all after the initial install ? |
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| 16:06.00 | stew | sbk: what about screen -x ? |
| 16:06.18 | sbk | stew: ah, I did not realize that option -- that sounds similar to the dtach approach, thanks |
| 16:06.22 | Silverpil | beardy yeah =) DWL-650+ Dlink |
| 16:06.25 | beardy | datech: Try to find some other programs that can use the joystick and try with those. |
| 16:06.35 | dvs | jscal |
| 16:06.40 | Eulex | imex, I consider it to be rather impossible to install debian packages on debian before installing debian |
| 16:06.56 | stew | sbk: you ssh to some box, screen -S screenname; then someone else does ssh to the same box and "screen -x screenname" and you are both looking at the same screen |
| 16:07.01 | imex | Eulex, true |
| 16:07.12 | celtic_hackr | the libc6 query says : ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 16:07.12 | celtic_hackr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.12 | imex | Eulex, anyways thanks cyaz all |
| 16:07.28 | sbk | stew: *nod* gotcha. Thanks, that sounds like a good possibility. Anything equivalent under xwindows? |
| 16:07.40 | stew | sbk: xkibitz |
| 16:07.58 | sbk | stew: ah, no kidding :) I remember an expect program called kibitz, interesting |
| 16:08.11 | beardy | datech: In what game have you planned on using it? Try it in there. |
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| 16:08.32 | stew | sbk: but i don't see xkibitz, i haven't used it in a long time |
| 16:08.39 | datech | beardy: I tried jscalibrator, it doesn't detect anything. I want to run it in Racer |
| 16:08.40 | Eulex | celtic_hackr, stable debian has libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22. you're not running debian. |
| 16:08.46 | sbk | stew: ok -- thanks for the pointer, I'll check for that as well. |
| 16:08.46 | darkfires | i still use kibitz now andthen |
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| 16:09.30 | Silverpil | I got a Laptop 800mhz run Audiotr live CD (knoppix) wonder if monitor mode is supported by my (Dlink DWL-650+ PCMCIA) and I have run this command "iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor" <- with out any error.. but how to check it out then? |
| 16:09.33 | datech | beardy: they always say "cannot open device /dev/js0" |
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| 16:09.37 | Eulex | !knoppix |
| 16:09.38 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 16:09.57 | [Bart] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.01 | celtic_hackr | I'm not running debian stable. I'm running debian stable/testing with aptpinning to unstable. |
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| 16:11.20 | beardy | datech: I have never tried to get a joystick working, so I don't really know what you should do next.. Have you tried googling, with the model of your joystick/wheel and "linux", or simillar? |
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| 16:11.25 | Quistis | ellow, does anyone use the Symbios logic SYM20403 scsi card (or any other sym53c416 chipset cards)? |
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| 16:12.25 | beardy | datech: And it is plugged in, right? ;) |
| 16:12.45 | dave_n | Ok, back to the xinerama problem. The Xpert98 has a cursor crash, whereas the Cirrus logic still works fine. I can move the mouse around on the Xpert98 screen, but I can't see the cursos. If I kill X, and restart it, the Xpert98 won't initialize anymore. Any idea's on what could cause this? |
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| 16:13.27 | celtic_hackr | Please, someone. All I want to do is to be able to mail merge with openoffice! I'll take "debian only" answers. I just need to know where to start working to fix it. |
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| 16:14.45 | jbroome | celtic_hackr: hell, that's not a distro related question, that's an OOo question |
| 16:14.47 | datech | beardy: yes, it's plugged in. I have tried this chatroom after ages of googling. Don't worry about it, I thank you for your time! |
| 16:15.09 | Bogaurd | can anyone lend a hand with configuring proftpd? |
| 16:16.36 | celtic_hackr | jbroome. perhaps. All I know is that I've uninstalled OOo and installed version 2 from unstable and I have no Mozilla integration. |
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| 16:18.02 | SimonRaven | there's an OOo mozilla thingy. install it |
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| 16:19.00 | rhyek | i'm having trouble setting up XFree86. the config file being use to start up is XF86Config-4 and i think i need to modify the videoRam there. The problem is whenever i run startx, i get 'insufficiend memory for mode'. I check the videoRam value in the log file and it's set to 256kBytes. my memory card has 256MB, so i go and change it to 262144 in the config file, but when i run startx again i get the same errors. when i check the videoRam value |
| 16:19.34 | rhyek | it says videoRam: 262144 kBytes (using 256 kBytes) |
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| 16:19.44 | rhyek | any ideas? |
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| 16:19.58 | celtic_hackr | I've installed all the OOo components related to mozilla and odbc. Zilch. I originally couldn't get address book set up in OOo 1.1.4 so I thought, maybe an upgrade will help. |
| 16:20.27 | Eulex | rhyek, what driver? |
| 16:20.35 | rhyek | vga |
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| 16:20.55 | zinx | celtic_hackr: including the mozilla-openoffice.org package? |
| 16:21.17 | celtic_hackr | zinx: installed it. |
| 16:21.25 | zinx | celtic_hackr: reinstall it |
| 16:21.27 | Eulex | rhyek, a vga has 256kb memory |
| 16:21.30 | [Bart] | I hate the **glibc detected*** errors grrrrrrrrr |
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| 16:21.38 | rhyek | err |
| 16:21.45 | rhyek | i'll set it to nv then |
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| 16:21.58 | SimonRaven | that's what bug reports are for |
| 16:21.58 | rhyek | or nvidia should work as i read on some site |
| 16:22.10 | rhyek | is that all i should change? |
| 16:22.14 | dvs | rhyek: lspci | grep video |
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| 16:22.38 | Eulex | rhyek, vga means max 640x480 4bit or 320x200 8bit... well, almost |
| 16:22.40 | rhyek | dvs: nothing |
| 16:22.44 | dvs | rhyek: Oops! I mean lspci | grep VGA |
| 16:22.51 | rhyek | heh |
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| 16:23.13 | rhyek | says unkown device |
| 16:23.29 | dvs | rhyek: What does it say exactly |
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| 16:24.08 | Bogaurd | can anyone lend a hand with configuring proftpd? |
| 16:24.34 | rhyek | i should tell you now i'm using vmware. well it says, 00:f0.0 VGA compatible controller: WMWare Inc: Unknown device 0405 |
| 16:24.36 | [Bart] | Bogaurd : what do you need to know? |
| 16:24.58 | Roey | Hi, I'm trying to compile 2.6.14 and I get this when I do make-kpkg modules_image: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DPeDqx16.html |
| 16:25.07 | Roey | why doesn't this target work?? |
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| 16:25.09 | celtic_hackr | reinstalled mozilla-openoffice.org. Nothing. |
| 16:25.12 | Glanzmann | !java |
| 16:25.12 | dpkg | java is probably Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 16:25.22 | Glanzmann | !install java |
| 16:25.23 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
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| 16:25.38 | Glanzmann | !java-package |
| 16:25.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 16:25.39 | Bogaurd | [Bart]: i'd like to deny all users write permissions in /ftp/, and deny ALL access to any subdirectories in /ftp/, except for the users/subdirectory combinations that i specify |
| 16:25.43 | |bubba| | can anyone help with installing k3b on etch? - specifically the qt3 dependancies |
| 16:25.44 | Bogaurd | [Bart]: may i pm you? |
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| 16:26.48 | cahoot | bubba http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
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| 16:27.16 | rhyek | well i set the driver to 'nv', says no devices detected |
| 16:27.20 | rhyek | :/ |
| 16:27.48 | sphenxes | I am newbie, how often is a stable Debian version releases? |
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| 16:28.01 | dvs | sphenxes: The last one was three years |
| 16:28.15 | cahoot | dvs: err 6mo |
| 16:28.16 | sphenxes | dvs thanks, I like this cycle |
| 16:28.36 | dvs | cahoot: 6 months? Where have you been?!? |
| 16:29.10 | cahoot | dvs: sarge doesn't count? |
| 16:29.16 | dvs | !sarge |
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| 16:29.16 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 16:29.20 | dvs | !woody |
| 16:29.21 | dpkg | from memory, woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" Security updates for woody will cease approximately one year after sarge's release(July/2006) |
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| 16:29.36 | dvs | That's almost three years |
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| 16:29.45 | sphenxes | cahoot, i do not think so, SuSE release a new version every 6 monthes, that is way I am going Debian |
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| 16:29.51 | Glanzmann | Thanks |
| 16:29.55 | |bubba| | cahoo: thanks |
| 16:30.00 | cahoot | dvs: well sarge is the latest/last - no? |
| 16:30.11 | dvs | cahoot: yup, and woody was before that |
| 16:30.29 | cahoot | <dvs> sphenxes: The last one was three years |
| 16:31.07 | dvs | sphenxes: They are hoping for 18 months for etch |
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| 16:32.06 | sphenxes | dvs; that is ok. I was sick with SuSE. every 6 monthes they have a new release, I was only updating my computer the whole time with unstable programs |
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| 16:33.03 | antgel | !seen vorlon |
| 16:33.03 | dpkg | vorlon <vorlon@dsl093-039-086.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-women, 4h 17m 40s ago, saying: 'Onanisti Che Amano Masturbarsi Lentamente has to be the best in there, though'. |
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| 16:33.29 | sphenxes | !xboard |
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| 16:37.24 | celtic_hackr | Can anyone help me or direct me where to get help for OOo in debian? |
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| 16:38.31 | loxley_ | celtic_hackr: #openoffice.org |
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| 16:40.52 | Bogaurd | anyone like to give me a hand configuring the directories in my proftpd? |
| 16:41.13 | antgel | !tell Bogaurd about ask |
| 16:41.48 | Bogaurd | thanks antgel. |
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| 16:42.37 | Bogaurd | i need to work out how to to have /ftp/ with no write permissions for anybody, and how to allow certain users write access to certain subdirectories |
| 16:42.57 | antgel | Bogaurd: does it not use standard unix permissions? |
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| 16:43.15 | Bogaurd | antgel: sure, it does |
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| 16:43.29 | Bogaurd | antgel: but i cant change the permissions of the files in this instance |
| 16:43.37 | antgel | Bogaurd: why not? |
| 16:43.47 | Bogaurd | so i need to configure it with <directory>'s and <limit> |
| 16:44.03 | Bogaurd | because they are a --bind mount point |
| 16:44.12 | antgel | Bogaurd: ouch |
| 16:44.14 | Bogaurd | and the files already have certain permisions |
| 16:44.18 | Bogaurd | =) |
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| 16:44.59 | antgel | Bogaurd: how about revisiting whatever is causing you to use --bind? |
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| 16:46.26 | rossi | anyone can help me with my sources list >> http://paste.debian.net/3031 << I have removed kde but I didn't want to and now I have some problem it does not want to install again wit apt-get install kde |
| 16:46.58 | predius_ | rossi: what's the problem? |
| 16:47.07 | sphenxes | what does it mean these 4 alphabatics in dselect. EIOM. |
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| 16:47.43 | dvs | rossi: You don't need security updates for sid and you are getting sarge updates from marillat when getting unstable for a debian mirror |
| 16:47.50 | xored | iam getting that eror with fonts on lates : |
| 16:47.52 | antgel | rossi: why are you trying to use stable security updates, sarge marillat, and others from unstable? |
| 16:47.55 | xored | usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty:95:Font T1/cmr/m/n/10=ecrm1000 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. \fontencoding\encodingdefault\selectfont |
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| 16:48.02 | rossi | I get this http://paste.debian.net/3033 |
| 16:48.07 | xored | what could that be ? |
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| 16:48.41 | rossi | antgel could you change it and tell me how to write it |
| 16:48.45 | antgel | rossi: 1. your sources.list is broken. 2. you're trying to use unstable without a clue |
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| 16:49.09 | findme | sphenxes, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/dselect-beginner/ch-main.en.html |
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| 16:49.27 | predius_ | rossi: http://paste.debian.net/3034 |
| 16:50.04 | dvs | predius_: without the 'f$' right? ;-) |
| 16:50.16 | predius_ | yeah |
| 16:50.21 | predius_ | :) |
| 16:50.31 | sphenxes | findme, thanks |
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| 16:50.44 | killfill_ | hi |
| 16:51.12 | findme | sphenxes, a better one yet http://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?pgid=deb2node38 |
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| 16:51.33 | netsurf3 | hey guys what package do i need to install to get the font helvetica-medium-normal |
| 16:51.47 | celtic_hackr | does anyone have address book sources working in OOo? |
| 16:51.49 | netsurf3 | imagemagick needs it but i dunno what it needs |
| 16:51.54 | antgel | netsurf3: apt-file |
| 16:52.00 | netsurf3 | thanks |
| 16:52.04 | sphenxes | findme, thanks, I have 2 books on Debian and none of them explain such a simple issue. thanks once more |
| 16:52.29 | killfill_ | how would i map a key to another?.. i.e. when i press F12 i want tp do Page-UP |
| 16:52.30 | findme | sphenxes, you are welcome! but all you need ever is probably apt-get |
| 16:52.34 | killfill_ | (in X) |
| 16:52.39 | killfill_ | Xorg that is.. |
| 16:52.43 | ddt | hi everyone, for some months now, i get "you passed an undefined mode number" when booting with vga=794 or another 1280x1024 mode, while it works fin in any 1024x768 modes, i use sid precompiled kernels -686-smp |
| 16:52.48 | predius_ | findme: xmodmap |
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| 16:53.07 | predius_ | !xmodmap |
| 16:53.07 | dpkg | it has been said that xmodmap is the tool from heaven. It fixed my backspace key to do what it's supposed to. (it modifies X keymaps), or, the tools from hell if you try to apply more than one modmap to the same session |
| 16:53.16 | findme | predius_, why would I need that? |
| 16:53.21 | netsurf3 | antgel apt-file not found? |
| 16:53.23 | killfill_ | heh.. |
| 16:53.26 | killfill_ | xmodmap.. hm.. |
| 16:53.31 | antgel | !tell netsurf3 about installit |
| 16:53.32 | predius_ | findme: eh, wrong person. |
| 16:53.34 | predius_ | :) |
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| 16:53.52 | killfill_ | i guess its configurable via Xorg.conf.. |
| 16:53.55 | findme | predius_, i will use it now that you gave it to me! No worries! |
| 16:54.00 | sphenxes | findme all what is written in both books is wow it is good it is wonderful and not a single explanation for the command and how to use in different situation. I will try to use dselect first. |
| 16:54.02 | valdyn | netsurf3: xfonts-100dpi / xfonts-75dpi / xfonts-100dpi-transcoded / xfonts-75dpi-transcoded |
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| 16:55.45 | findme | sphenxes, now this is a gold mine http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm |
| 16:56.01 | netsurf3 | thanks valdyn |
| 16:56.09 | valdyn | netsurf3: which 'dependency hell' do you mean? the fact that debian installs everything required to actually use openoffice automatically? |
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| 16:56.27 | netsurf3 | just things that were missing |
| 16:56.40 | netsurf3 | i gave up though i only have 1GB for debian |
| 16:56.48 | ick | My console is flickering. How is that possible? It's a brand new install. |
| 16:56.59 | netsurf3 | hence why i asked for package name |
| 16:57.04 | netsurf3 | 23mb free |
| 16:57.06 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 16:57.06 | antgel | ick: hardware? |
| 16:57.29 | ick | And I also get Init "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. |
| 16:57.38 | ick | antgel: It worked great yesterday. |
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| 16:57.41 | sphenxes | findme thanks, i am taking a look at it. |
| 16:57.46 | ick | antgel: (with another OS) |
| 16:58.06 | ick | antgel: This is just Debian screwing up. (to put it simple) |
| 16:58.10 | antgel | ick: hmm. what have you edited from default? in particular inittab? |
| 16:58.15 | valdyn | ick: that doesnt sound like a proper install |
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| 16:58.18 | ick | antgel: nothing. |
| 16:58.29 | valdyn | ick: did you like install debian from knoppix or something similar stupid? |
| 16:58.44 | ick | valdyn: no, but kde could not be installed completely. |
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| 16:58.56 | LFC | Hey ... I know I am not supposed to be asking it here since I have Suse... but You guys know more about Linux than any other channel... Im tying to fix my video card and monitor through the console trying to run SAX2 but the program already starts up with a Fuc k up resolution or something... Can I somehow start SAX2 in a "safe" mode?? like 640x480 with 256 colors? |
| 16:58.57 | antgel | ick: what version of debian have you installed? |
| 16:58.58 | ick | valdyn: And unfortunately I installed stable. |
| 16:59.01 | valdyn | ick: in sarge? what has kde to do with your init |
| 16:59.10 | antgel | LFC: /j #suse |
| 16:59.19 | valdyn | ick: unfortunately you are using non-stable stuff |
| 16:59.22 | LFC | Nobody helps in any other place |
| 16:59.24 | antgel | ick: why is it unfortunate that you installed stable? |
| 16:59.25 | jbroome | suse is the goddamed devil |
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| 16:59.39 | valdyn | !others don't know |
| 16:59.39 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 16:59.41 | ick | valdyn: I want some kind of newer software. |
| 16:59.42 | antgel | LFC: then pay for better suse support, or if you want help here, install debian. full stop. |
| 17:00.00 | antgel | ick: are you new to debian? to linux? |
| 17:00.06 | ick | antgel: no |
| 17:00.14 | antgel | ick: no to both? |
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| 17:00.20 | ick | antgel: 4 yours of Debian/BSD experience. |
| 17:00.21 | valdyn | ick: and you just broke your system by trying to achieve that the wrong way... |
| 17:00.50 | ick | valdyn: :? |
| 17:00.52 | antgel | valdyn: what did he do? |
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| 17:01.17 | valdyn | antgel: if i knew that i'd tell him the fix too |
| 17:01.36 | ick | I have got to leave now. Back in 20minutes or so. |
| 17:01.44 | LinuxNIT-laptop | how do i reinstall grub so that it looks in debians /boot/grub for the config information? (its currently lookin in RHs partition) |
| 17:02.04 | antgel | LinuxNIT-laptop: have you read the grub docs? the debian grub docs? |
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| 17:03.37 | valdyn | LinuxNIT-laptop: in / from debian, run grub-install <device>, see also its manpage |
| 17:03.38 | LinuxNIT-laptop | nope i didnt realize debian had rub doc. ill go look at them (sorry) |
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| 17:03.47 | predius_ | LinuxNIT-laptop: /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz |
| 17:03.48 | LinuxNIT-laptop | k thank |
| 17:03.53 | antgel | LinuxNIT-laptop: debian has docs for every package in /usr/share/doc |
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| 17:03.58 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ah |
| 17:04.03 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok thanks guys |
| 17:04.16 | LinuxNIT-laptop | much appreciated |
| 17:04.22 | antgel | !tell LinuxNIT-laptop about usd |
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| 17:05.30 | prp | how can i know wich device is my mouse? like /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice..... ? |
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| 17:05.42 | dvs | prp: Which kernel are you using? |
| 17:06.07 | toker | whats the file that has te list of places to get programs froms? |
| 17:06.19 | dvs | toker: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:06.25 | toker | thanks |
| 17:06.26 | nvz | toker: /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-setup, man 5 sources.list |
| 17:06.30 | prp | dvs: 2.6.14 |
| 17:06.39 | dvs | prp: Then it's /dev/input/mice |
| 17:06.42 | nvz | prp: /dev/input/mice |
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| 17:07.05 | prp | ok, don't know why X is not working then :( |
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| 17:07.18 | dvs | !usbmouse |
| 17:07.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 17:07.19 | nvz | prp: read the log? |
| 17:07.28 | prp | read.. nothign strange in it |
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| 17:08.40 | astronut | is there an easy way to dump using gphoto2? it looks like you have to list then parse and then get? |
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| 17:09.22 | astronut | oh, -P |
| 17:09.25 | antgel | prp: when you say X isn't working, what does that mean? |
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| 17:09.38 | LinxDebian | ya instale Sarge ,pero estoy trabajando en consola ,alguien me dice como instalar en entorno de escritorio, gracias |
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| 17:09.54 | prp | antgel : sorry i was reading the log, it works. i can see wmaker but i can't move th emouse pointer |
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| 17:10.20 | thingfish | LinxDebian: #debian-es |
| 17:10.24 | pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
| 17:10.34 | antgel | prp: what release of debian? did it used to work? what changed? |
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| 17:10.42 | nvz | pedro420: pedro? |
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| 17:10.48 | sphenxes | Where can I find a mailing list for Debian (no spam)? I am a newbie, just going to kill my suse in few weeks |
| 17:11.00 | pedro420 | nvz: can I burn cds on this pc ? |
| 17:11.03 | antgel | sphenxes: have you looked on www.debian.org? |
| 17:11.13 | prp | antgel : unstable/no i just installed |
| 17:11.18 | nvz | pedro420: I have a feeling Chris, Jeff, Mike, and Steve got real fucked up last night.. none of them are answering the phone |
| 17:11.26 | Roey | Hi, I'm trying to compile 2.6.14 and I get this when I do make-kpkg modules_image: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DPeDqx16.html |
| 17:11.27 | sphenxes | antgel, no, I am going to thanks |
| 17:11.30 | antgel | !unstablesmite prp |
| 17:11.33 | Roey | why doesn't this target work?? |
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| 17:11.35 | antgel | grr |
| 17:11.40 | Roey | hey antony |
| 17:11.40 | pedro420 | nvz: I would think so |
| 17:11.45 | nvz | pedro420: I'd use the cd burner, cause they wont fit in the cd drive |
| 17:11.50 | nvz | er floppy drive |
| 17:11.51 | antgel | Roey: sup |
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| 17:12.07 | nvz | pedro420: your burner is still in the other pc I think |
| 17:12.13 | antgel | prp: if you use unstable, you need to be able to fix problems yourself. not supported |
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| 17:12.35 | pedro420 | nvz: So this one doesnot have a cd burner ? |
| 17:12.44 | nvz | pedro420: nope |
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| 17:13.03 | sdakota | ok, debian is installed and working quite well =) |
| 17:13.04 | ddt | i get "you passed an undefined mode number" when booting with vga=794 or another 1280x1024 mode, while it works fine with any 1024x768 mode, i use sid precompiled kernels -686-smp, nobody has an idea ? |
| 17:13.09 | pedro420 | nvz: so how would I burn a cd ? |
| 17:13.10 | prp | antgel: yes, but others don't support fglrx.. complicated life... |
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| 17:13.31 | nvz | pedro420: you gotta put the burner in first ying yang |
| 17:13.40 | sdakota | now - what firewall would you recommend? |
| 17:13.45 | pedro420 | How do I do that ? |
| 17:13.48 | nvz | sdakota: is there more than one? |
| 17:13.55 | antgel | Roey: that doesn't look like an error. also, there is a backport of 2.6.14 at www.backports.org/pending |
| 17:14.09 | sdakota | nvz: that probably makes the choice easy - where do I get this one firewall ;) |
| 17:14.12 | antgel | prp: doesn't matter. the above still applies. suggest you don't use fglrx |
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| 17:14.24 | nvz | sdakota: you already have it afaik |
| 17:14.43 | prp | antgel : suggest how to use tvout, and i will be glad to apply it |
| 17:14.46 | antgel | Roey: also, better to run make-kpkg with fakeroot, not sudo |
| 17:14.59 | Roey | antgel: what do ou mean backport? I'm compiling 2.6.14 in order to have in-kernel LVM |
| 17:15.02 | Roey | antgel: ok |
| 17:15.03 | nvz | sdakota: you know that packet filtering code in your kernel, that makes your network connection work.. |
| 17:15.07 | Roey | antgel: right, I forgot about that :) |
| 17:15.21 | Roey | antgel: was what I got even an error message?? |
| 17:15.28 | nvz | sdakota: iptables and maybe some other utils might help though |
| 17:15.33 | LinxDebian | ya instale Sarge ,pero estoy trabajando en consola ,alguien me dice como instalar en entorno de escritorio, gracias |
| 17:15.43 | sdakota | nvz: I'm scared that people will be able to break in if I don't put enough security in place |
| 17:15.49 | nvz | sdakota: heh |
| 17:15.53 | thingfish | !es |
| 17:15.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:16.02 | pedro420 | nvz: how do i do that ? |
| 17:16.06 | sdakota | "Hispanohablantes" |
| 17:16.10 | antgel | prp: why don't you use sarge, with fglrx from ati if you have to use that crap |
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| 17:16.42 | nvz | pedro420: take your hand off your pecker, put it on the cdburner... ... |
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| 17:17.08 | pedro420 | nvz: ha ha funny fucker |
| 17:17.10 | cddesjar | but don't put your pecker in your cdburner? |
| 17:17.20 | prp | antgel: it's a chain of weakness, i will try to resolv problems myself if no support from you is given, thanx for your time |
| 17:17.20 | nvz | o_O |
| 17:17.20 | predius_ | heh |
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| 17:17.28 | antgel | prp: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 17:17.37 | antgel | !tell prp about fglrx |
| 17:17.39 | LinxDebian | ya instale Sarge ,pero estoy trabajando en consola ,alguien me dice como instalar en entorno de escritorio, gracias |
| 17:17.54 | cddesjar | !es |
| 17:17.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:18.00 | l3m | i'm trying to setup a cvs repository using CVSD. Everything seems to work fine, except that when i want to checkout, i get "Cannot Access /project/CVSROOT", "No such file or directory". There is however a /project dir in the chrootjail-root, the dir is in cvsd.conf and i ran cvsd-buildroot... any ideas ? |
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| 17:18.04 | prp | antgel : i am tring to do that, i am using google too :) |
| 17:18.40 | cddesjar | i had a nightmare last night that my debian system crashed and the only way i could get my computer to work was to install ubuntu |
| 17:19.10 | nvz | could have been worse. |
| 17:19.16 | pedro420 | nvz: got the burner out |
| 17:19.19 | antgel | prp: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian-fglrx-xfree86/index.html |
| 17:19.23 | cddesjar | nvz: yeah i could have been forced to run redhat or windows |
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| 17:19.39 | netsurf3 | valdyn are there any truetype font packages? |
| 17:19.55 | prp | antgel : iread that, don't swear me but i am using xorg |
| 17:20.01 | pedro420 | nvz: cant figure out how to get the other one out |
| 17:20.02 | nvz | cddesjar: or compile the gentoo installer over... and over.. and over.. and over.. just to see if you can make the install go faster :P |
| 17:20.09 | antgel | prp: well use sarge then |
| 17:20.12 | cddesjar | nvz: ha ha ha |
| 17:20.14 | cddesjar | that's good |
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| 17:20.29 | cddesjar | SPEED!!! |
| 17:20.33 | netsurf3 | :) |
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| 17:21.01 | valdyn | netsurf3: apt-cache search ttf- |
| 17:21.18 | netsurf3 | ahh thaks |
| 17:21.26 | nvz | pedro420: first you would shut off the computer and open the case. it helps |
| 17:21.43 | dimm0k | are there any partitioning tools in linux that would let me resize and move partitions? |
| 17:21.45 | dvs | o_O |
| 17:22.02 | antgel | !tell dimm0k about parted |
| 17:22.03 | pedro420 | nvz: i got the case open |
| 17:22.12 | valdyn | dimm0k: what you really want is resize / move filesystems? |
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| 17:22.40 | nvz | I need f00d |
| 17:22.41 | pedro420 | nvz: It doesn't have a lock u click and slide it out like the gateway |
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| 17:22.47 | dvs | !beer nvz |
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| 17:22.51 | Tarsonis | heya guys |
| 17:23.00 | antgel | !tell pedro420 about u |
| 17:23.00 | Tarsonis | what about gnome 2.12 in the apt repository :/ |
| 17:23.01 | nvz | and I just ate a "big breakfast" a few hours ago |
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| 17:23.25 | subdefy | I'm still having some trouble installing gentoo64/debian 64. the dvd-rom refuses to mount even after passing the follow params: ide=dma, udev, doscsi. it's a standard ide dvd-rom drive. it has had this problem in both the latest release of gentoo and debian for the amd64 architecture. anyone? |
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| 17:23.42 | Eulex | Tarsonis, it's in experimental |
| 17:23.44 | nvz | pedro420: probably has those old-fashioned fasteners that twist out with on of those caveman tools |
| 17:23.48 | ick | valdyn: I also seem to have a very old kernel: 2.6.8.something. |
| 17:23.54 | cddesjar | Tarsonis: what about 2.12 in the repository :) |
| 17:24.01 | Tarsonis | cddesjar, searching it |
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| 17:24.02 | cddesjar | ick: i'm running 2.6.8 |
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| 17:24.14 | celtic_hackr | anyone know how to make OOo work in debian? |
| 17:24.24 | Tarsonis | apt-get install openoffice ? oO |
| 17:24.24 | antgel | !tell celtic_hackr about installit |
| 17:24.32 | Tarsonis | Eulex, can i query you? |
| 17:24.35 | thingfish | nothing wrong with 2.6.8. It sure does everything I need it to do. |
| 17:24.45 | valdyn | ick: what's wrong with it? |
| 17:24.50 | cddesjar | celtic_hackr: what's the problem do you want oo.org2? |
| 17:24.50 | pedro420 | nvz: what ? |
| 17:25.04 | ick | valdyn: The install only went "wrong", when I was in the apt stage, installing Desktop and Printserver. |
| 17:25.05 | cddesjar | thingfish: me too |
| 17:25.14 | netsurf3 | www.backports.org |
| 17:25.16 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 17:25.17 | Eulex | Tarsonis, if you know my API, then yes ;) |
| 17:25.27 | Tarsonis | your what? ^^ |
| 17:25.38 | cddesjar | i love backports.org! |
| 17:25.43 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 17:25.45 | ick | valdyn: Well, maybe the business card image lags in development. |
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| 17:25.55 | ick | valdyn: (that's the one I used) |
| 17:25.56 | antgel | ick: is this a sarge iso? |
| 17:25.59 | cddesjar | i got OO.org2 there, Xorg, and Firefox1.5rc |
| 17:26.00 | Eulex | celtic_hackr, that wasn't your question last time. have you b0rked it even more now? |
| 17:26.02 | ick | antgel: yes |
| 17:26.05 | Eulex | Tarsonis, don' |
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| 17:26.15 | Eulex | Tarsonis, 't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 17:26.16 | Tarsonis | well. whatever. shall i just change unstable to experimental ? oO |
| 17:26.20 | ick | antgel: I checked the integrity of the cd. |
| 17:26.21 | subdefy | can anyone help me out? |
| 17:26.25 | antgel | ick: cat /etc/apt/sources.list. use a pastebin |
| 17:26.27 | Eulex | Tarsonis, no. |
| 17:26.31 | predius_ | Tarsonis: NO. |
| 17:26.33 | Tarsonis | or should i add a line with experimental |
| 17:26.34 | Tarsonis | ^^ |
| 17:26.38 | SimonRaven | FF 1.5 isn't rc anymore |
| 17:26.39 | pedro420 | nvz: can u take the front cover off ? How ? |
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| 17:26.49 | antgel | !iyhtays Tarsonis |
| 17:26.49 | dpkg | Tarsonis: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:26.51 | cddesjar | SimonRaven: it is in backports...or at least it was yesterday |
| 17:26.54 | Eulex | Tarsonis, add lines with experimental and make unstable default-release |
| 17:27.00 | ick | antgel: I now substituted stable with testing. |
| 17:27.04 | netsurf3 | cddesjar i put firefox in manualy why do people like using apt when you can just as easy get the mozilla.org binary and install there? |
| 17:27.08 | nvz | pedro420: nope, cause I am here, and it is there. you still have to turn the fucker off |
| 17:27.09 | Tarsonis | dpkg, well im not using debian for default, so im asking |
| 17:27.11 | celtic_hackr | OOo is installed. waht is installit? I use apt-get. |
| 17:27.13 | antgel | ick: why? |
| 17:27.16 | ick | antgel: But modulo that it's the default, and it was borked before I changed it. |
| 17:27.26 | predius_ | nvz: dependencies. |
| 17:27.27 | cddesjar | netsurf3: easier to uninstall |
| 17:27.32 | predius_ | that |
| 17:27.40 | predius_ | and apt-get install firefox is easier, still. |
| 17:27.47 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 17:27.50 | Tarsonis | well |
| 17:27.55 | Tarsonis | Eulex, how to make unstable default? |
| 17:27.56 | netsurf3 | yep but ya dont get newest version |
| 17:27.57 | antgel | ick: cat /etc/inittab |
| 17:27.58 | rhyek | uh, once i modify inetd.conf, do i have to execute something so the new configuration can take effect? |
| 17:28.00 | ick | antgel: Because I thought that testing has newer software and might work. (sure this deeats the point of stable) |
| 17:28.01 | Tarsonis | by adding default behind all stuff ? |
| 17:28.05 | Eulex | Tarsonis, dpkg is a bot, antgel triggered it... |
| 17:28.10 | Tarsonis | eh |
| 17:28.11 | Tarsonis | fuck it |
| 17:28.11 | Tarsonis | ^^ |
| 17:28.19 | dvs | rhyek: /etc/init.d/inetd restart |
| 17:28.21 | Tarsonis | i c |
| 17:28.22 | Tarsonis | :S |
| 17:28.24 | rhyek | ah cool |
| 17:28.31 | antgel | Tarsonis: please type english |
| 17:28.32 | Tarsonis | well |
| 17:28.36 | dvs | rhyek: if it's called inetd |
| 17:28.40 | predius_ | Tarsonis: 1.5 should move into etch in 10 days. |
| 17:28.44 | rhyek | yeah |
| 17:28.45 | predius_ | unless any RC bugs show up. |
| 17:28.56 | dvs | :-> |
| 17:29.02 | Eulex | Tarsonis, create /etc/apt/apt.conf and put APT::Default-Release "unstable"; in it, then apt-get update |
| 17:29.06 | Tarsonis | ok |
| 17:29.07 | predius_ | and all security patches are backported to the sarge version. |
| 17:29.10 | antgel | a bug in firefox? i would never believe that |
| 17:29.18 | nvz | heh |
| 17:29.20 | celtic_hackr | Eulex. No OOo is running, but can't seem to do something simple like create a database from Mozilla .mab files. It can do Evolution or text or create a new database. But Mozilla functionality isn't there. I've even reinstalled every component. |
| 17:29.29 | antgel | Eulex: why are you telling a cluebie to migrate to unstable? |
| 17:29.36 | predius_ | eh, not tarsonis. |
| 17:29.39 | predius_ | i meant netsurf3 |
| 17:29.46 | Eulex | antgel, he was on unstable already |
| 17:29.48 | pedro420 | nvz: what do I do after I turn it off |
| 17:29.54 | predius_ | sorry, I haven't had enough sleep- |
| 17:30.01 | antgel | Eulex: ah. thought testing. apologies |
| 17:30.02 | Tarsonis | well ty Eulex |
| 17:30.02 | ick | antgel: I can't really paste anything. But I didn't change anything, so why are you asking? |
| 17:30.04 | nvz | pedro420: make me something to eat |
| 17:30.05 | netsurf3 | predius what? |
| 17:30.13 | ick | antgel: I only have console. |
| 17:30.16 | predius_ | < netsurf3> yep but ya dont get newest version |
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| 17:30.28 | nvz | pedro420: and roll me a number too.. cause I got no paper |
| 17:30.29 | pedro420 | nvz: lick my a$$ |
| 17:30.30 | netsurf3 | oh right |
| 17:30.38 | antgel | ick: because i feel that would help solve your problem |
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| 17:30.48 | pedro420 | nvz: I got a paper but to filler |
| 17:30.58 | ick | antgel: Ok, I will connect via ssh, and then paste from another pc. |
| 17:31.36 | Eulex | celtic_hackr, mozilla-openoffice.org installed? |
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| 17:31.51 | nvz | pedro420: I think I need to go see that Wendy bitch |
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| 17:32.00 | antgel | nvz: more fast food? |
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| 17:32.11 | PhoenixMan | I've just installed the KDE Desktop package and the vncserver package. However, VNCServer doesn't run KDE. How do I make it run KDE? |
| 17:32.15 | nvz | antgel: yeah.. |
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| 17:32.33 | pedro420 | nvz: hungry for a grease burger |
| 17:32.35 | antgel | PhoenixMan: have you read the vncserver docs? |
| 17:32.40 | PhoenixMan | Yes. |
| 17:32.42 | nvz | I'm just plain hungry |
| 17:32.49 | PhoenixMan | As far as I see it they say nothing on changing it to KDE |
| 17:32.55 | Eulex | PhoenixMan, edit .vnc/xstartup |
| 17:32.59 | nvz | hungry as a hostage in a cave in afganistan |
| 17:33.02 | johey | Is there a way to clean up the system and get rid of unused dependenices? |
| 17:33.06 | celtic_hackr | Eulex. Yes mozilla-openoffice.org is installed and reinstalled and reinstalled before installing openoffice. OOo just doesn't wnat to see Mozilla for some reason. |
| 17:33.16 | bbrazil | johey: debfoster, deborphan |
| 17:33.17 | antgel | PhoenixMan: so what have you tried? what errors are there? |
| 17:33.22 | Eulex | celtic_hackr, file a bug. |
| 17:33.25 | johey | bbrazil: Ok, thanks! |
| 17:33.31 | PhoenixMan | There is no .xstartup in my .vnc directory |
| 17:33.33 | Tarsonis | Eulex, query please :/ |
| 17:33.37 | johey | bbrazil: Are they safe to use btw? |
| 17:33.38 | PhoenixMan | or xstartup |
| 17:33.49 | PhoenixMan | I made a new file. What do I put into it?! |
| 17:33.54 | bbrazil | johey: pretty safe, been a while since I touched them. I use aptitude now |
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| 17:34.03 | antgel | PhoenixMan: you clearly haven't rtm |
| 17:34.07 | ick | antgel: http://pastebin.com/447385 |
| 17:34.53 | antgel | ick: look at line 29. your install didn't complete. you want to reinstall |
| 17:35.01 | pedro420 | nvz: I got the cd burner hooked up, now what ? |
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| 17:35.14 | PhoenixMan | My manual says nothing about any xstartup |
| 17:35.14 | johey | bbrazil: Ok. Does aptitude help you cleaning the system? |
| 17:35.23 | nvz | pedro420: you still havent turned off the computer yet |
| 17:35.23 | ick | antgel: But why would it go right this time? |
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| 17:35.35 | nvz | pedro420: and I still havent had lunch |
| 17:35.40 | bbrazil | johey: yes, but for best effects you have to use it from the start |
| 17:35.47 | ick | antgel: Or should I just not select Desktop and Printserver? |
| 17:35.47 | johey | bbrazil: Ok. |
| 17:35.58 | cddesjar | damn it's -20 out right now |
| 17:36.10 | oz__ | Won't mirror without dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz signature ? |
| 17:36.19 | oz__ | how can one fix that? |
| 17:36.22 | pedro420 | nvz: do i have to turn off the pc. It opens and shit |
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| 17:36.25 | ick | antgel: Can I get that selection menu back via dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 17:36.26 | celtic_hackr | Eulex: Arrgh. Why is everything so difficult in debian. I had better luck with Linux when I compiled everything from scratch. |
| 17:36.36 | cddesjar | ick: base-config |
| 17:36.37 | antgel | ick: perhaps you did something wrong. fti, many users don't choose a task at install. they prefer to login to a clean system and e.g. aptitude install x-window-system-core mozilla-firefox kde, whatever |
| 17:36.40 | cddesjar | right? |
| 17:36.40 | pedro420 | nvz: there is a cd in the old rom but I didn't take it out |
| 17:36.50 | antgel | ick: it's stuck in a bad place. don't even go there |
| 17:37.32 | ick | antgel: I mean after a reinstall. |
| 17:37.36 | antgel | celtic_hackr: you don't have to use debian |
| 17:37.44 | ick | ick: And you would suggest me to use Stable for a Desktop system? |
| 17:37.47 | ick | er antgel |
| 17:37.58 | antgel | ick: when you reinstall it will ask you again. i would strongly recommend you use stable |
| 17:38.22 | cddesjar | ick: what are you trying to use testing? |
| 17:38.39 | jbroome | celtic_hackr: i thought you were on suse? |
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| 17:38.46 | cddesjar | ick: if you a debian newbie i agree with antgel that you should use sarge |
| 17:38.53 | ick | cddesjar: It has newer software (on FreeBSD I had e.g. KDE3.4.3) I like kde3.4. |
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| 17:39.20 | xam | ick: use bacxports i neccessary |
| 17:39.28 | ick | cddesjar: I used Debian for a long time, I only forgot some of its commands, and then I used Sid which worked Out Of The Box(TM) |
| 17:39.29 | antgel | ick: will it really make a difference to your life to have kde 3.4? you say you have 4 years of debian experience but it doesn't seem that way. |
| 17:39.40 | cddesjar | ick: well if i were you and you want to play with testing...completely install your base system and then use apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to update |
| 17:39.49 | antgel | ick: if sid worked for you, great, but there are no guarantees |
| 17:40.00 | antgel | cddesjar: you missed the start of this. his install is broken |
| 17:40.11 | cddesjar | antgel: but he is going reinstall? |
| 17:40.11 | ick | cddesjar: I already have done that to this system. I remembered that command. |
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| 17:40.16 | ick | cddesjar: yes |
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| 17:40.30 | cddesjar | antgel: how did he break his install? |
| 17:40.39 | antgel | cddesjar: i don't know what he did |
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| 17:40.57 | cddesjar | antgel: did you try to manually select packages or did you click 'desktop' |
| 17:41.01 | ick | cddesjar: I selected Desktop and Printserver and continued. |
| 17:41.02 | antgel | ick: if you decide to try installing the tasks again, as you did before, and get problems again, it's a bug |
| 17:41.08 | ViViD | when i try to launch apps such as kedit from root shell i get the error "Xlib: connection to ':0.0' refused by server; Xlib: no protocol specified" what do i have set up wrong? |
| 17:41.08 | cddesjar | oh |
| 17:41.19 | antgel | !tell ViViD about sux |
| 17:41.27 | cddesjar | hmm... |
| 17:41.33 | l3m | what does it mean when there's a + at the end of permissions? e.g drwxrws---+ ? |
| 17:41.34 | cddesjar | ick: why not install with a testing iso? |
| 17:41.49 | antgel | cddesjar: because it's not a stable installer? |
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| 17:42.03 | ick | cddesjar: I assumed that the business card iso was a testing one. |
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| 17:42.16 | antgel | ick: you told me it was a stable one. |
| 17:42.20 | yang | When trying to play mp3 with xmms i get error - ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory |
| 17:42.25 | cddesjar | he he |
| 17:42.33 | ViViD | antgel, how do i configure sux after its installed? |
| 17:42.37 | ick | antgel: It has installed a stable one. |
| 17:42.56 | antgel | ick: don't be in such a hurry to use testing. it can break. i think a few kde packages are missing atm |
| 17:43.05 | antgel | ViViD: by reading the manual |
| 17:43.19 | cddesjar | ick: which one did you choose on this page http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 17:43.29 | xam | yang: you are missing an audio driver (or you may have an ALSA audio driver, but you're missing the OSS emulation) |
| 17:43.41 | ick | antgel: I got a stable release. Positive. |
| 17:44.08 | cddesjar | ick: or did you choose this page http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 17:44.32 | ick | cddesjar: first URL you gave, stable release, business card |
| 17:44.33 | cddesjar | ick: the latter is a beta installer |
| 17:44.37 | cddesjar | ok |
| 17:44.47 | cddesjar | well then you installed a stable release |
| 17:44.49 | antgel | ick: my concern is that you want to use testing and don't understand the implications. testing is mooted by many as a way to get the best of both stable and unstable worlds, but that is a misconception |
| 17:45.17 | cddesjar | ick: best way to get stablility and some newer packages is to use backports |
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| 17:45.37 | ick | antgel: The point of moving from FreeBSD to Debian is reduced maintainance. |
| 17:45.39 | cddesjar | oops doesn't |
| 17:46.11 | ick | antgel: A lot of ports have "undefined references", and I already fixed some of them, but I am sick of it. |
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| 17:46.25 | yang | xam: Hello there ! When trying with mplayer i get message : |
| 17:46.25 | yang | alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default |
| 17:46.25 | yang | alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/65536 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little Endian |
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| 17:46.29 | ick | antgel: It feels like I develop every part of the system before I can use it. |
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| 17:46.39 | cddesjar | ick: i don't think running testing is that risky...but you definitely need to read bug reports and have apt-listbugs installed |
| 17:46.53 | paulswm | l3m: it's an alternate sccess method flag, probably means that the file(s) have extended ACLs |
| 17:47.02 | ick | cddesjar: And you also develop code? |
| 17:47.10 | antgel | cddesjar: here we go again. "not all that risky". can you quantify? fact is, only stable is *stable*. |
| 17:47.14 | cddesjar | ick: no...i'm not a developer |
| 17:47.20 | cddesjar | antgel: i agree |
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| 17:47.32 | cddesjar | antgel: it's more of a risk and less stable than sarge of course |
| 17:47.37 | l3m | paulswm: ah. makes sense. thanks! |
| 17:47.48 | yang | xam: but i experience this error, after a kernel upgrade |
| 17:47.51 | ick | antgel: do you develop? |
| 17:47.52 | cddesjar | antgel: that's why it's called testing and not stable :) |
| 17:47.52 | ViViD | i dont understand why i didnt need to use sux on previous isntallations of the same os |
| 17:47.54 | paulswm | I've been running testing for years with extremely few issues. But I wouldn't run unstable if you paid be, now *that* is risky |
| 17:48.04 | celtic_hackr | antgel: I know I don't need to use debian, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. |
| 17:48.05 | jak | Hi, anybody here using stanchina's fglrx ati drivers? |
| 17:48.14 | antgel | cddesjar: so please don't tell him to use testing unless there is a real need. imo (and you may disagree) a newer version of a desktop environment isn't one. that's not what debian is about |
| 17:48.18 | paulswm | l3m: You're welcome :) |
| 17:48.21 | celtic_hackr | Maybe it is time to try suse again. |
| 17:48.21 | antgel | celtic_hackr: it is a good idea :) |
| 17:48.30 | antgel | ick: yep |
| 17:48.31 | cddesjar | antgel: ok |
| 17:48.44 | Eulex | celtic_hackr, you're using software that recently came into unstable. you should expect bugs. |
| 17:48.46 | ick | antgel: and you also run sarge? |
| 17:48.48 | Eulex | Tarsonis, what? |
| 17:48.49 | xam | yang: seems you have a working ALSA audio driver. But xmms tries to use the old OSS driver interface. You can change xmms to use ALSA in the preferences under the 'output devices' tab |
| 17:48.50 | antgel | paulswm: np - relayer |
| 17:49.31 | antgel | ick: indeed. ran potato, woody, unstable (but not upgraded much), and then when sarge was released, upgraded from unstable to stable! |
| 17:49.59 | antgel | ick: to be precise, i devlop, but i'm not a *debian* developer |
| 17:50.17 | celtic_hackr | Well the testing version of OOo won't recognize Mozilla .mabs either. I know it's probably something stupid in my install preventing it, but I can't seem to find the offending package out of the "billions and billions" of packages. |
| 17:50.32 | ick | antgel: Hmm, ok. I will try my luck again. Expect me back when I want the latest lib of <insert Z here> :) |
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| 17:51.01 | antgel | ick: good luck. you may wish to try what you did before, again, in order to see if there is a bug. :) |
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| 17:52.03 | PhoenixMan | .. |
| 17:52.08 | dvs | ,, |
| 17:52.14 | PhoenixMan | Hi. I installed KDE Desktop. How do I set my default desktop to KDE Desktop? |
| 17:52.17 | xam | yang: it seems that you new kernel doesn't have the alsa OSS-emulation built-in, or at least it doesn't load it. That means you have to switch all multimedia apps you have to use ALSA instead of OSS (which is not a bad idea anyway) |
| 17:52.19 | SimonRaven | /// |
| 17:52.23 | ViViD | antgel, thanks for the tip |
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| 17:52.27 | Eulex | PhoenixMan, what dm? |
| 17:52.27 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: at the gdm menu |
| 17:52.34 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: click default session |
| 17:52.35 | antgel | ViViD: enjoy. don't hose your box! |
| 17:52.37 | PhoenixMan | gdm command not found |
| 17:52.44 | cddesjar | oh nevermind |
| 17:52.50 | cddesjar | do you have a dm? |
| 17:52.53 | jaup | Hi, I use debian sarge, and all time I see this error send by cron. /etc/cron.daily/webalizer: |
| 17:52.56 | jaup | Error: Can't open log file /var/log/apache/access.log.1 |
| 17:52.57 | PhoenixMan | dm command not found |
| 17:52.58 | PhoenixMan | :S |
| 17:53.01 | jaup | any idea how to fix it? |
| 17:53.13 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: do you have a desktop manager installed? |
| 17:53.15 | antgel | PhoenixMan: do you understand anything about linux or what we are saying to you? |
| 17:53.19 | PhoenixMan | No? |
| 17:53.32 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: maybe you should install xdm, gdm, or kdm |
| 17:53.36 | cddesjar | kdm is for kde |
| 17:53.40 | cddesjar | essentially |
| 17:53.47 | dvs | PhoenixMan: is your login grap[hical? |
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| 17:54.10 | paulswm | jaup: do you have apache installed? |
| 17:54.11 | PhoenixMan | ? |
| 17:54.11 | PhoenixMan | No |
| 17:54.15 | ViViD | now im getting the error "Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy; ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 3293, errno = 2" wth does this mean? |
| 17:54.24 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: do you want a graphical login? |
| 17:54.25 | dvs | !beer me |
| 17:54.34 | jaup | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:54.43 | cddesjar | !coffee |
| 17:54.43 | dpkg | it has been said that coffee is the reason the net exists, or the drug of choice for a GNU generation, or http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, or /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, or geiseri's favorite beverage, or smells better than it tastes |
| 17:54.51 | ac3 | why isn´t the motd displayed as root logges in? |
| 17:54.57 | znx | !beer Shadowcat |
| 17:55.00 | ercin_ | jaup so you have to reconfigure your webalizer |
| 17:55.00 | znx | :D |
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| 17:55.09 | antgel | ac3: /etc/login.defs |
| 17:55.13 | PhoenixMan | My harddrive is low on space. Is there any way to list a top 10 of the files/directories which are the biggest (excluding system directories with important stuff I hope) |
| 17:55.14 | pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
| 17:55.14 | jaup | ercin_: what is the way to reconfigure it? |
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| 17:55.22 | paulswm | jaup: If the file exists, I assume it must be a permissions issue, but, sorry, I don't use apache2 so I don't know if the log files are different |
| 17:55.23 | ercin_ | apache2's log files is in /var/log/apache2 i think |
| 17:55.28 | ercin_ | jaup, wait a minute |
| 17:55.31 | Eulex | PhoenixMan, du |
| 17:55.38 | dvs | duh? |
| 17:55.41 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: kde is probably the biggest pile of bloat on your comp |
| 17:55.42 | jaup | aps, thanks ercin_ |
| 17:55.44 | dvs | ;-) |
| 17:55.51 | antgel | ac3: hmm, now it's in /etc/pam.d/login |
| 17:55.53 | ac3 | antgel: i´m using pam |
| 17:55.58 | ac3 | :) |
| 17:56.03 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: apt-get remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 --purge && apt-get install fluxbox |
| 17:56.07 | paulswm | "bloat" is an understatement for kde |
| 17:56.07 | cddesjar | he he he |
| 17:56.16 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: btw don't run that command! |
| 17:56.27 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: unless you want to of course :) |
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| 17:56.58 | ac3 | antgel: what shoul i change to that file? |
| 17:56.59 | ercin_ | jaup, change the "LogFile" in /etc/webalizer.conf |
| 17:57.03 | ac3 | shoul=should |
| 17:57.08 | E-bola | I just run an mkfs with the read only badblock test, what is supposed to happen if there IS badblocks? |
| 17:57.11 | jaup | ercin_: thanks! |
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| 17:57.17 | E-bola | the line just says: Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done 959 |
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| 17:57.41 | antgel | ac3: have you looked in the file? |
| 17:57.46 | ac3 | yes |
| 17:58.11 | yang | xam: I switched to ALSA plugin, but now still doesnt play, and i get error - libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:58.15 | ac3 | The only relevant thing i see is: "session optional pam_motd.so" |
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| 17:58.54 | antgel | ac3: if that's not commented out, the motd should print |
| 17:59.03 | findme | yang, apt-get install libmikmod2 |
| 17:59.06 | SimonRaven | that just displays the /etc/motd file |
| 17:59.12 | xam | yang: apt-get install libmikmod2 |
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| 17:59.24 | antgel | SimonRaven: is that not what he wants? |
| 17:59.28 | ac3 | antgel: it´s displayed for every user exept root |
| 17:59.37 | ac3 | I want root to see it too |
| 17:59.44 | SimonRaven | i don't know. haven't been following |
| 17:59.45 | antgel | ac3: nice of you to leave that out originally |
| 17:59.59 | predius_ | ac3: don't log in as root. |
| 18:00.05 | predius_ | block root ssh access |
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| 18:00.17 | SimonRaven | if you're su'ing to root, it won't appear |
| 18:00.42 | SimonRaven | it's in /etc/pam.d/login, so it's for *login* |
| 18:00.43 | antgel | nor if you login to a tty as root |
| 18:00.43 | ac3 | antgelwhy: [18:54] <ac3> why isn´t the motd displayed as root logges in? |
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| 18:00.45 | sbk | E-bola: I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it should create a list of bad blocks that the mkfs call will then use. I don't know what sort of messages it generates, however. |
| 18:00.46 | ick | antgel: ok, new install initiated. |
| 18:00.53 | antgel | ac3: didn't see that |
| 18:00.59 | antgel | ick: fingers crossed |
| 18:01.04 | ick | antgel: yep |
| 18:01.08 | ac3 | predius_: i need root login for my rsync backup script |
| 18:01.10 | SimonRaven | /bin/login |
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| 18:01.22 | Roey | hi |
| 18:01.26 | antgel | ac3: you want rsnapshot, you do |
| 18:01.27 | Roey | Hi, I'm trying to compile 2.6.14 and I get this when I do make-kpkg modules_image: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DPeDqx16.html |
| 18:01.30 | SimonRaven | "my name is login, /bin/login" |
| 18:01.31 | Roey | why doesn't this target work?? |
| 18:01.35 | vinay | So i bought a dvd burner.. what package can i use to write plain old data dvd's ? |
| 18:01.49 | findme | Via, k3b |
| 18:01.51 | predius_ | vinay: k3b should tell you what you need. |
| 18:01.56 | predius_ | heh |
| 18:02.05 | vinay | hmm.. i rephrase.. cdrecord equivalent for shell? |
| 18:02.12 | SimonRaven | aaw, nobody got my james bond reference |
| 18:02.15 | antgel | Roey: it's designed to work with debian module packages in /usr/src/modules |
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| 18:02.28 | antgel | SimonRaven: i did, i was just trying to decide if you're drunk |
| 18:02.38 | SimonRaven | no, just nuts |
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| 18:02.52 | ick | I think you are an Alice bot ;) |
| 18:02.54 | antgel | vinay: growisofs if you don't want *bloat* |
| 18:03.02 | SimonRaven | you wish |
| 18:03.14 | antgel | SimonRaven: who owns you |
| 18:03.16 | valdyn | Roey: its working fine, what's the problem? |
| 18:03.19 | Tarsonis | hm |
| 18:03.24 | SimonRaven | me |
| 18:03.27 | Tarsonis | Eulex, i have now experimental in my sources.list |
| 18:03.39 | Roey | valdyn: the problem is that it's not compiling modules like I asked it to |
| 18:03.48 | Roey | antgel: ok |
| 18:03.51 | predius_ | svizzero: dvdrtools installs a binary called dvdrecord |
| 18:03.58 | valdyn | Roey: did you read about what make-kpkg modules-image really does? |
| 18:03.58 | predius_ | vinay: |
| 18:03.59 | Tarsonis | but when i want to get gnome he says its already the newest version |
| 18:04.00 | Tarsonis | :/ |
| 18:04.01 | Roey | antgel: but if Ijust want to build the standard Linux modules... what do I do then |
| 18:04.05 | Roey | valdyn: makes modules. |
| 18:04.07 | findme | can i use kernel 2.6.8 with testing? |
| 18:04.13 | predius_ | vinay: dvdrtools installs a binary called dvdrecord |
| 18:04.14 | vinay | predius_: aah... ok, let me try that one! |
| 18:04.17 | predius_ | yeah |
| 18:04.18 | Tarsonis | findme, sure, why not |
| 18:04.21 | antgel | Tarsonis: with experimental you have to specify specifically |
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| 18:04.30 | Roey | valdyn: look, I've compiled the kernel; now all I need are the standard modules. |
| 18:04.31 | Eulex | Tarsonis, if you didn't manager to follow my instructions you should attempt to get gnome 2.12 from experimental |
| 18:04.32 | ick | antgel: I am now on an Unstable system which I also didn't update in quite some time. If I would change sid to "stable" in sources.list and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, I would be @ stable again, right? |
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| 18:04.38 | antgel | Roey: they're rolled into the kernel_image |
| 18:04.43 | findme | Tarsonis, apt has to be told to go to unstable to get 2.6.8 kernel |
| 18:04.45 | predius_ | ick: no |
| 18:04.45 | Eulex | findme, no |
| 18:04.55 | SimonRaven | findme: what? |
| 18:04.56 | Eulex | findme, udev in testing requires 2.12+ |
| 18:04.57 | valdyn | Roey: that isnt what modules-image is for so duh, shoulda read the docs |
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| 18:05.00 | Roey | antgel: but kernel_image is so small! only about 30 megs or so.. |
| 18:05.03 | Roey | valdyn: gar |
| 18:05.04 | Tarsonis | antgel, well apt-get -t experimental install gnome ? |
| 18:05.08 | SimonRaven | don't make stuff up please |
| 18:05.12 | dvs | ick: wrong |
| 18:05.15 | findme | hmm, if i do apt-cache search kernel-source i get only 2.4 listings. I have testing in my apt. |
| 18:05.19 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 18:05.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 18:05.28 | Tarsonis | findme, search for linux-source |
| 18:05.33 | antgel | ick: yep. i did that after sarge release and it made me very happy. i last upgraded the unstable box inaround february |
| 18:05.36 | SimonRaven | findme: it's called linux-source |
| 18:05.37 | findme | Tarsonis, ok thanks |
| 18:05.44 | antgel | dvs: actually it's not a downgrade. think about it |
| 18:05.53 | vinay | predius_: aah, that looks like what i want! predius_ antgel findme : thanks! :-) |
| 18:06.01 | ick | E.g. this one runs kde3.3. |
| 18:06.10 | Tarsonis | antgel, actually when i do this -t experimental install gnome he wants that i specify every package of the gnome meta package |
| 18:06.18 | antgel | ick: when was it last upgraded? |
| 18:06.23 | PhoenixMan | There's a problem. We have two harddrives and we wish to move our users' large files over to the backup harddrive. |
| 18:06.31 | antgel | Tarsonis: experimental is even less supported than unstable |
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| 18:06.34 | ick | antgel: Good question, I would have to look at some file mod. dates. |
| 18:06.41 | Tarsonis | well i just want to have gnome 2.12 :/ |
| 18:06.44 | PhoenixMan | However, we need to find what's causing all of the harddrive drain. |
| 18:06.52 | antgel | ick: ls -lrt /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 18:06.54 | PhoenixMan | How can we see a top 10 list of most sized files/directories? |
| 18:07.06 | antgel | Tarsonis: debian is *not* about having the latest software |
| 18:07.10 | Tarsonis | yeah |
| 18:07.12 | cddesjar | PhoenixMan: david letterman? |
| 18:07.12 | antgel | PhoenixMan: man du. man sort |
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| 18:07.17 | Tarsonis | i know that, too bad :/ |
| 18:07.22 | predius_ | would find work? |
| 18:07.29 | ick | 2005-09-04 |
| 18:07.32 | predius_ | find all dirs which are bigger than X? |
| 18:07.37 | Tarsonis | ill install gentoo unstable again, i think. |
| 18:07.44 | Akbar | but seriously is firefox already available as a deb? |
| 18:07.46 | antgel | ick: that's way after the sarge release |
| 18:07.47 | Eulex | PhoenixMan, du, sort and head |
| 18:07.48 | cddesjar | Tarsonis: are you a speed junkie? |
| 18:07.51 | cddesjar | Akbar: yes |
| 18:07.52 | antgel | Tarsonis: have fun |
| 18:07.53 | Tarsonis | cddesjar, ya |
| 18:07.55 | predius_ | Akbar: packaged in unstable is now named firefox |
| 18:07.55 | cddesjar | Akbar: are you running sarge |
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| 18:08.01 | predius_ | not mozilla-firefox |
| 18:08.02 | Akbar | no etch |
| 18:08.03 | antgel | cddesjar: he's a bleeding-edge junkie. he'll grow out of it :) |
| 18:08.08 | predius_ | Akbar: wait 10 days. |
| 18:08.13 | Akbar | okay |
| 18:08.19 | Tarsonis | the only thing i hate at gentoo is the compiletime |
| 18:08.22 | valdyn | !info mozilla-firefox etch |
| 18:08.24 | cddesjar | antgel: new packages don't really improve that much..imho |
| 18:08.25 | Tarsonis | but... it kinda rules anyway |
| 18:08.27 | antgel | Tarsonis: you can't have it all |
| 18:08.30 | Tarsonis | yeah |
| 18:08.31 | Tarsonis | true |
| 18:08.33 | cddesjar | Akbar: you can also get it from backports.org |
| 18:08.34 | findme | when / why is it called linux-source instead of kernel-source? |
| 18:08.35 | ick | antgel: So, I will have to wait until the next Stable? That's like over 10 years. |
| 18:08.36 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-1 (etch), Packaged size: 7444 kB, Installed size: 21016 kB |
| 18:08.39 | Akbar | a etch backport? |
| 18:08.45 | cddesjar | Akbar: sarge backports |
| 18:08.48 | Tarsonis | findme, because there more than only linux kernels |
| 18:08.50 | predius_ | findme: there are other kernels. |
| 18:08.59 | predius_ | hurd, kfreebsd |
| 18:09.00 | cddesjar | Akbar: he he...i'm running sarge with newer software than you |
| 18:09.04 | antgel | cddesjar: indeed. i find urxvt, emacs, vim, etc don't change much. don't get me started on grep, find, and ls! |
| 18:09.07 | Eulex | opensolaris |
| 18:09.09 | Akbar | yeah I know :) |
| 18:09.11 | findme | Tarsonis, predius_ ok i guess i will read more |
| 18:09.24 | Tarsonis | heh |
| 18:09.24 | predius_ | Eulex: no, not in the archive |
| 18:09.27 | cddesjar | Akbar: deb http://www.backports.org/pending/ ./ |
| 18:09.33 | cddesjar | Akbar: add that |
| 18:09.34 | Akbar | sarge has quite a few apps backported :) |
| 18:09.38 | Tarsonis | ill go and install gentoo again :S |
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| 18:09.50 | antgel | ick: not really. they're looking tentatively at 18 months. you *might* be able to "upgrade" to testing |
| 18:09.59 | cddesjar | Akbar: then apt-get install firefox |
| 18:10.06 | Akbar | yeah.. |
| 18:10.07 | cddesjar | Akbar: it's not called mozilla-firefox on backports |
| 18:10.10 | Eulex | predius_, maybe not, but there's work done on it. |
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| 18:10.19 | antgel | Tarsonis: may i point out that you waste more time installing distros and apps than you save with 1. compiling everything 2. having the newest software |
| 18:10.33 | Akbar | very nice |
| 18:10.34 | predius_ | Eulex: kFreeBSD works pretty good. |
| 18:10.34 | Tarsonis | antgel, may be |
| 18:10.34 | Xsecrets | anyone know if there is a workaround to the dependancy problems with synaptic in unstable? |
| 18:10.41 | cddesjar | Akbar: but when it comes out on testing...you might want to uninstall it and install the testing package...but i don't think it matters to much |
| 18:10.55 | predius_ | Xsecrets: eh? |
| 18:11.09 | Akbar | it works :) |
| 18:11.15 | cddesjar | antgel: you know i've played with gnome2.12 a bit and i notice no difference between 2.8 and 2.12 |
| 18:11.20 | antgel | Tarsonis: actually, there is no maybe about it. i liked how you say gentoo "kinda rules anyway". that's typical gentoo lack of empirical evidence |
| 18:11.31 | cddesjar | antgel: so it makes me laugh when people need the newest desktop |
| 18:11.33 | Eulex | Xsecrets, you can always hack the .deb... which you should be able to do if you're running unstable. |
| 18:11.38 | antgel | cddesjar: it's a difference of 0.4 |
| 18:11.39 | Xsecrets | synaptic won't install from unstable right now claiming a couple of dependancy problems in particular libpango is not new enough. |
| 18:11.44 | paulswm | !gentoosmite Tarsonis |
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| 18:11.56 | predius_ | antgel: but what if you compile with --teach-me-unix and --make my computer-faster?! |
| 18:12.01 | SimonRaven | cddesjar: seems to be mostly backend stuff. very little user-visible changes. except maybe the bloat or lack thereof |
| 18:12.02 | ick | antgel: now you are stealing Slashdot jokes... |
| 18:12.04 | Tarsonis | well, tell me how to change the gnome menu? |
| 18:12.08 | Akbar | well cddesjar gnome 2.12 has that gaim+hinting+libwnck fixed.. so it's pretty important if you need that feature.. |
| 18:12.10 | Tarsonis | -.- |
| 18:12.14 | SimonRaven | make --my-computer-faster |
| 18:12.24 | predius_ | heh, yeah. |
| 18:12.24 | cddesjar | i want to be gentoosmited |
| 18:12.32 | paulswm | !gentoosmite cddesjar |
| 18:12.36 | cddesjar | i guess that would be gentoosmoted |
| 18:12.39 | rhyek | anyone know about this 'tunable_ftp_username' error i'm getting while trying to log into vsftpd? |
| 18:12.42 | cddesjar | yes...i am way faster! |
| 18:12.43 | ick | I'd run Gentoo if they had a ton of binaries... |
| 18:12.45 | antgel | predius_: ah! how you're talking. do any of these users realise that their desktops spend most of their cycles doing fuck all? |
| 18:12.53 | antgel | ick: i don't read slashdot |
| 18:13.03 | antgel | ick: but they must be pretty funny :P |
| 18:13.04 | Akbar | gentoo with binaries? |
| 18:13.05 | Akbar | lol |
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| 18:13.17 | cddesjar | do you guys know any good websites that listen online radio stations in ogg format? |
| 18:13.25 | Eulex | Tarsonis, add apt sources for experimenta in sources.list... and have you created /etc/apt/apt-conf with the contents I told you to? |
| 18:13.25 | valdyn | ick: gentoo has 'a ton of binaries' |
| 18:13.33 | Tarsonis | Eulex, i did |
| 18:13.34 | valdyn | ick: though that is offtopic =/ |
| 18:13.35 | blondie | what has gotten into dpkg? :) |
| 18:13.36 | ick | antgel: oh, well someone made the exact same remark, but then with version 3.3 and 4, I believe. Good for your time(i.e. not reading slashdot) |
| 18:13.37 | predius_ | antgel: http://funroll-loops.org/ :-) |
| 18:13.44 | Akbar | binaries? aren't those buildscripts? |
| 18:13.45 | blondie | dpkg: are you unwell? |
| 18:13.55 | cddesjar | predius_: i love that linked bug report |
| 18:14.01 | predius_ | blondie: It's been acting strange lately. |
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| 18:14.04 | predius_ | cddesjar: yeah. |
| 18:14.05 | antgel | Tarsonis: when you install gentoo, will your machine run so fast that your irc client will know what we are going to say before we type it? |
| 18:14.16 | Tarsonis | antgel, hahah, very funny. |
| 18:14.17 | cddesjar | predius_: i nearly pissed myself the first time i read it |
| 18:14.25 | SimonRaven | hyperspace irc client |
| 18:14.29 | antgel | predius_: interesting. i'll have a look when i'm not at work |
| 18:14.30 | ick | valdyn: They only rebuild packages every X time (with X being pretty large), right? |
| 18:14.33 | Akbar | hehh:) |
| 18:14.45 | antgel | my productivity is pretty low today |
| 18:14.54 | paulswm | predius_: That is very funny, thanks :) |
| 18:14.58 | valdyn | ick: no idea |
| 18:15.07 | SimonRaven | i have to get oldap 2.3.13 patched and built ... |
| 18:15.09 | cddesjar | antgel: that's hilarious! |
| 18:15.12 | antgel | Tarsonis: will your gentoo box be able to tell me what next week's lottery numbers are? |
| 18:15.25 | Tarsonis | antgel, stfu please |
| 18:15.27 | predius_ | cddesjar: "I don't think that Debian can really compete with Gentoo. Sure it might be okay, but when it comes to dependencies, you probably are still going to have to get them all on your own. Or is there something like portage in the Debian world as well?" |
| 18:15.35 | predius_ | That's *the* one. |
| 18:15.37 | bizkit | there are gentoo binary packages, and you can install only the packages you specify from source. but.. i can do this with debian, too. the only advantage of gentoo is creating non-bloated binaries which are built without the need for libs you don't really need. with precompiled packages, you often have stuff in them you don't need. the speed stuff.. is theoretical, perhaps 0.1% in real usage |
| 18:15.37 | ick | valdyn: Well, when I ran Gentoo, when you wanted the latest software, you had to compile. Period. |
| 18:15.40 | antgel | Tarsonis: is that a yes? |
| 18:15.41 | cddesjar | predius_: ha ha ha |
| 18:15.48 | Akbar | lol |
| 18:16.04 | Tarsonis | ergh |
| 18:16.07 | ick | bizkit: how many of them? |
| 18:16.08 | predius_ | bizkit: apt-source? |
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| 18:16.21 | Tarsonis | antgel, tell me how to update gnome to 2.12 and i'll never use gentoo again |
| 18:16.29 | bizkit | predius_: read what i've written. i said i can do this with debian too, so i know apt-source |
| 18:16.37 | cddesjar | predius_: my all time favourite...http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74072 |
| 18:16.44 | predius_ | yeah, I missed it first. |
| 18:16.45 | cddesjar | predius_: at the bottom...vroom vroom |
| 18:16.49 | paulswm | !qotd77 |
| 18:16.50 | dpkg | i heard qotd77 is <bullet> woohoo here goes dist-upgrade.. this seems so fast after doing an emerge world -e in gentoo |
| 18:17.17 | bizkit | ick: imho all packages are available precompiled. if this is 'gentoo' i don't know, but there's a distro out there that is gentoo binary |
| 18:17.34 | Tarsonis | bizkit, no |
| 18:17.37 | SimonRaven | paulswm: once someone posted a link to a jpg that was a gentoo box build -e world; guess what the load avg. was? |
| 18:17.41 | antgel | Tarsonis: i have no idea how to upgrade gnome. i know that if you have to have the latest stuff, debian may not be for you. my suggestion is don't use gnome and use your computer to do something! |
| 18:17.50 | valdyn | Tarsonis: this *might* work, and its _discouraged_, it may break your system: add experimental sources ,'apt-get install gnome/experimental'. |
| 18:17.59 | paulswm | SimonRaven: I dunno, +100? :P |
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| 18:18.05 | Tarsonis | valdyn, would it update the WHOLE meta package? |
| 18:18.07 | SimonRaven | 440 |
| 18:18.12 | paulswm | Holy crap |
| 18:18.23 | ick | bizkit: There's a *commercial* distro that does that. |
| 18:18.24 | Tarsonis | antgel, i just want to change the gnome menu |
| 18:18.24 | Tarsonis | -.- |
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| 18:18.33 | SimonRaven | only other time i've seen a load avg. like that was on www.kernel.org |
| 18:18.34 | paulswm | SimonRaven: And the CPU temp was prolly the same number :P |
| 18:18.41 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 18:18.54 | predius_ | Tarsonis: etch or sarge? |
| 18:18.55 | takatumi_ | !greetings |
| 18:18.55 | dpkg | hello, takatumi_ |
| 18:19.04 | valdyn | Tarsonis: i dont know, you can still follow with apt-get -t experimental (dist-)upgrade ( naturally carefully watching what will get removed etc.. ) |
| 18:19.11 | Tarsonis | predius_, sid |
| 18:19.13 | antgel | Tarsonis: so you have to upgrade gnome because of a menu? that's great. i suggest that you use terminals and type application names in to start them |
| 18:19.20 | valdyn | Tarsonis: there's a few transitions going on makeing this more or les problematic |
| 18:19.26 | bizkit | ick: then you know more than me. the point was, using gentoo for speed is senseless.. |
| 18:19.27 | predius_ | http://oskuro.net/blog/2005/Nov/03 |
| 18:19.30 | SimonRaven | i've seen some of the ppc boxen here get to 100+, and they were still usable. cpu temp was a couple of degrees higher |
| 18:19.30 | Tarsonis | antgel, yaya... but i dont want to have an terminal for opera |
| 18:19.37 | PhoenixMan | I'd like to verify this. /var/mail/www-data is 11 GB in size. Is it safe to delete this? It isn't a directory or anything. |
| 18:19.42 | antgel | Tarsonis: why do you need a terminal for opera? |
| 18:19.59 | Tarsonis | when u tell me "terminal for starting applications" |
| 18:20.00 | antgel | PhoenixMan: you need to find a competent admin for the box |
| 18:20.02 | ick | bizkit: I agree with you, although a hardware specific kernel does seem useful. |
| 18:20.04 | Akbar | yeah opera should show up in your gnome-menu |
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| 18:20.08 | Tarsonis | Akbar, it isnt |
| 18:20.14 | Tarsonis | well it is in the debian menu |
| 18:20.17 | Akbar | did you restart gnome-panel? |
| 18:20.18 | Tarsonis | but not in the gnome menu |
| 18:20.21 | SimonRaven | PhoenixMan: it's a unix mbox file |
| 18:20.21 | antgel | Tarsonis: so type opera& . what's the big deal? |
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| 18:20.24 | bizkit | ick: this for sure |
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| 18:20.51 | yang | xam: the sound still doesnt work |
| 18:20.57 | ick | bizkit: (which Debian does support(either via make-kpackage(forgot how it's called exactly) or just via apt via a download) |
| 18:20.57 | Akbar | you could add a icon for opera :D |
| 18:21.09 | antgel | paulswm: i got really inspired yesterday during the synths at the end of "the gates of delirium". so i'm listening to relayer again today! |
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| 18:21.11 | yang | xam: not in xmms not in mplayer |
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| 18:21.30 | predius_ | ick: make-kpgk? |
| 18:21.34 | predius_ | kpkg* |
| 18:21.37 | xam | yang: what do you maen? You don't hear anything? Or are there any error messages? |
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| 18:21.50 | ick | predius_: yes, that one. |
| 18:22.02 | thingfish | relayer is an excellent album. |
| 18:22.32 | yang | xam: I dont hear any sound out of speakers... |
| 18:22.44 | paulswm | antgel: :) |
| 18:22.49 | xam | yang: run 'alsaconf' ... and install/run 'alsamixer' and make sure that all mixers are not muted |
| 18:22.49 | emre_ | !udev |
| 18:22.50 | dpkg | from memory, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 18:23.15 | takatumi | SimonRaven: my cpu temp gets ~64C with cpu load above 2.00 |
| 18:23.26 | Akbar | .. |
| 18:23.40 | emre_ | Is there an easy way of getting around udev and kernel >= 2.6.12 conflict? i cant use apt-get anymore |
| 18:23.42 | ick | takatumi: My CPU is always between 60 and 65. |
| 18:23.42 | Akbar | what process is eating up your cpu? |
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| 18:23.55 | takatumi | ick: lappy here. |
| 18:23.58 | SimonRaven | takatumi: holy |
| 18:24.16 | ick | takatumi: lappy? |
| 18:24.30 | bizkit | laptop? |
| 18:24.32 | SimonRaven | laptop |
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| 18:24.51 | ick | takatumi: Oh, well that kills your scrotum for sure :P |
| 18:25.06 | takatumi | one thing I'm really happy about udev is, how easy it is to remove it. very smooth. |
| 18:25.25 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 18:25.46 | takatumi | ick: it rests on a childs restraining gate for scrotal comfort. |
| 18:25.53 | Elly | hey...how do you start ethereal as root? |
| 18:26.00 | takatumi | on my lazyboy. \o/ |
| 18:26.06 | Fraze | Help! I have libparted 1.6-12.. But i need 1.6.6 (or later).. but it isn't in my package list! i'm using sarge.. thanks in advance.. |
| 18:26.07 | Elly | fluxbox seems not to have such a menu item |
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| 18:26.09 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 18:26.22 | boulard | hi everyone, i get "you passed an undefined mode number" when booting with vga=794 or another 1280x1024 mode, while it works with any 1024x768 mode, i use precompiled sid kernels (2.6.14-2-686-smp now) |
| 18:26.30 | Nebukadneza | i got more or less big trouble installing a hp pa-risc (hppa 712/60) ... |
| 18:26.36 | Nebukadneza | i just dont get that damned thingy to boot from cd |
| 18:26.47 | valdyn | Elly: sux <enter> ethereal, sudo ethereal, gksu ethereal, kdesud ethereal |
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| 18:27.17 | takatumi | Nebukadneza: /msg chanserv list #debian-hp* |
| 18:27.25 | Nebukadneza | i enter the BOOD_ADMIN console, do a Search scsi, get a reply with my external scsi cd drive (scsi.5.0), do a Boot scsi.5.0, and get thrown back to the BOOT_ADMIN |
| 18:27.29 | antgel | boulard: vga=ask should tell you what's avaiable |
| 18:27.32 | takatumi | valdyn: kdesud? |
| 18:27.45 | Nebukadneza | takatumi: that channel is empty :/ |
| 18:27.46 | takatumi | boulard: try 792 |
| 18:27.48 | Elly | sux not found :( |
| 18:27.48 | Fraze | So, how can I get libparted 1.6.6?! |
| 18:27.58 | antgel | !tell Elly about installit |
| 18:28.08 | takatumi | Nebukadneza: donate a few. :) |
| 18:28.20 | xam | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.20 | valdyn | takatumi: kdebase-bin: /usr/bin/kdesud |
| 18:28.24 | Nebukadneza | donate a few what? Oo |
| 18:28.31 | takatumi | valdyn: didn't know that one. |
| 18:28.46 | boulard | takatumi: 792 is a 1024x768 mode, it works, but 793, 794, 795 don't |
| 18:29.11 | takatumi | boulard: maybe your graphics card/chip doesn't support it, mine doesn't. |
| 18:29.20 | yang | xam: which one should i keep installed udev or hotplug package ? is it any relevant to sound? |
| 18:29.34 | xam | yang: hotplug |
| 18:29.44 | valdyn | !installit |
| 18:29.44 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 18:29.49 | valdyn | Elly: ^^^ |
| 18:29.53 | takatumi | boulard: ah, misread your 1280x1024 dream. :) |
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| 18:30.32 | takatumi | Nebukadneza: hardware I meant. |
| 18:30.47 | xam | yang: it is relevant to many hardware drivers |
| 18:30.47 | takatumi | so you'll get greater user base. |
| 18:31.14 | Nebukadneza | takatumi: ah ... |
| 18:31.17 | Nebukadneza | i only have one :/ |
| 18:31.19 | blue_sky | getting error when compiling: C compiler cannot create executables. config.log says "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" ... linker problem? |
| 18:31.27 | valdyn | !b-e blue_sky |
| 18:31.28 | dpkg | blue_sky: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 18:31.53 | blue_sky | meta package is it? |
| 18:32.48 | Elly | whee |
| 18:32.51 | blue_sky | valdyn and dpkg... bots? |
| 18:32.52 | Elly | it wroks |
| 18:32.53 | Elly | thanks |
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| 18:33.03 | TCW | are there any backup-related projects using inotify to backup data? Currently I use a simple rsync setup but a backup with rsync takes much too long and stresses the harddisks too much imho. |
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| 18:33.19 | valdyn | blue_sky: yea Im a bot |
| 18:33.28 | Fraze | How can I install a newer verision of a lib that i don't have installed on my system? |
| 18:33.31 | Fraze | j |
| 18:33.40 | SimonRaven | valdyn is a squishy bot |
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| 18:33.58 | predius_ | Fraze: apt? |
| 18:34.06 | blue_sky | valdyn: you took too long to reply! I'd never have guessed what I needed from "!b-e" though. |
| 18:34.15 | antgel | valdyn: who owns you? |
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| 18:34.33 | paulswm | SimonRaven: As a Gary Larson alligator would say, "all soft and pink on the outside and crunchy in the middle" |
| 18:34.38 | antgel | Fraze: what version of debian are you using? |
| 18:34.42 | predius_ | !b-e blue_sky |
| 18:34.42 | dpkg | blue_sky: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 18:34.47 | SimonRaven | yup :) |
| 18:34.50 | blue_sky | valdyn: actually, I get it now, the !b-e called the dpkg bot |
| 18:35.02 | antgel | !botabuse |
| 18:35.02 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 18:35.03 | predius_ | blue_sky: ! calls it |
| 18:35.04 | Fraze | predius_,antegel: I'm using sarge, and in apt it doesn't have the newer verision I need.. |
| 18:35.11 | takatumi | blue_sky: ok, you passed the turing mark. |
| 18:35.13 | Fraze | (i'm talking about libparted.. i need 1.6.6) |
| 18:35.20 | predius_ | Fraze: why? |
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| 18:35.26 | blue_sky | lol takatumi, ty ... I think |
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| 18:35.36 | yang | xam: ok alsaconf fixed it |
| 18:35.37 | antgel | Fraze: stable is stable. why do you think you need a newer library? |
| 18:36.03 | takatumi | sid rulez!?!! |
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| 18:36.13 | Nebukadneza | debian sid, the guy sid or the music format? :P |
| 18:36.28 | xam | yang: congrats |
| 18:36.31 | antgel | spock's beard have a track called "a guy named sid" |
| 18:36.34 | boulard | takatumi: i've got a lcd display on a PCIe ATI X300, it's VESA 2 compliant, i really don't understand why 1280x1024 modes don't work. |
| 18:36.37 | Akbar | yang you should save your alsamixer settings :) with alsactl store.. |
| 18:36.44 | bizkit | the toystory dude |
| 18:36.50 | yang | Akbar: will do :) |
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| 18:37.15 | takatumi | boulard: checked out similar hardware stories at tuxmobil.org? |
| 18:37.22 | predius_ | boulard: drivers? |
| 18:37.40 | xam | yang: that should be done automatically when you shut down PC afaik |
| 18:37.45 | antgel | boulard: is it listed in vga=ask? |
| 18:37.56 | bizkit | boulard: perhaps you need a special modeline? |
| 18:37.56 | boulard | takatumi: it's not a laptop |
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| 18:38.23 | takatumi | boulard: ignore me, I'm on a loon. |
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| 18:38.44 | pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
| 18:39.03 | takatumi | where's nvz? |
| 18:39.05 | boulard | antgel: vga=ask gives me only "basic" modes number, if i try "scan" i juste get flickering |
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| 18:39.34 | antgel | boulard: not a great start. tried different kernels? |
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| 18:40.22 | boulard | bizkit and predius: i'm talking about kernel's vesafb |
| 18:40.38 | takatumi | boulard: any luck with radeonfb? |
| 18:41.11 | cal | Theres lots of howtos for installing a unix OS over a windows (xp) OS, but does anyone know any howtos (or if it is is even possible to) install windows after you have debian installed? |
| 18:41.35 | antgel | cal: it is, but you'll need to reinstall your bootloader as wincock will wipe it |
| 18:41.48 | takatumi | cal: install it, it will screw up the MBR, liveCD, chroot, grub-install. |
| 18:42.00 | boulard | antgel: yes, many debian kernels, and even some i compiled myself (but i didn't compile for a while) |
| 18:42.03 | antgel | cal: i think you shouldn't install it |
| 18:42.13 | cal | damnit. i suspected this was the case |
| 18:42.27 | cal | antgel: i don't want to |
| 18:42.43 | cal | antgel: unfortunatley, my hands are tied |
| 18:42.53 | antgel | boulard: you might wanna try ##linux. myself, i've seen fb's do some weird shit. graphics hardware is of variable quality |
| 18:42.58 | bizkit | well, it's not really a problem to reinstall the right mbr as desribed above |
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| 18:43.39 | antgel | cal: if you don't fancy the livecd route, you can create a boot floppy and then reinstall grub from debian |
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| 18:44.09 | boulard | takatumi: how can i tell the kernel to use radeonfb and not vesafb ? |
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| 18:44.27 | boulard | antgel: ok |
| 18:44.35 | cal | antgel: that sounds good, but apparantly no one at work thought to include a floppy drive on this hideous laptop |
| 18:44.44 | Eno_ | i installed new versions of xchat and firefox from source and have the executibles in /usr/local/bin, and my PATH has /usr/local/bin first. i can run xchat and firefox from terminals and the correct versions run. but inside kde, i can alt+f2 and type in 'xchat' and it still runs the old version. the same goes for icons. |
| 18:44.47 | antgel | boulard: see the fb docs in /usr/src/<version>/Documentation |
| 18:44.57 | takatumi | boulard: you need to vga=foobarbaz, have seen various concoctions, google. |
| 18:45.00 | bizkit | cal: you can use the debian cd1 and just use the rescue boot with your root |
| 18:45.02 | antgel | cal: got a cd-rom? |
| 18:45.10 | cal | yes, I do |
| 18:45.17 | cal | its a netinst |
| 18:45.25 | antgel | cal: so burn a live cd or use the debian install cd (livecd is nicer) |
| 18:45.40 | cal | any recomendations on a livecd? (never used one) |
| 18:45.50 | bizkit | knoppix? |
| 18:45.51 | cal | knoppix maybe? |
| 18:45.55 | cal | ok |
| 18:46.14 | boulard | antgel and takatumi: ok i'll search in these ways, thanks |
| 18:46.29 | antgel | cal: you may wish to boot knoppix with knoppix 2 to avoid the garish kde desktop |
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| 18:46.53 | takatumi | boulard: I believe it is vga=radeonfb |
| 18:47.26 | cal | ill get knoppix. thanks alot for your help guys. #debian always has been a knowlegdable channel |
| 18:47.34 | SimonRaven | video=radeonfb |
| 18:47.42 | takatumi | it was actually video=radeonfb |
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| 18:47.47 | takatumi | gah, he's gone. |
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| 18:48.08 | takatumi | 08:05.45bob2tty1: fwiw, I get the radeonfb by passing video=radeonfb at boot time. |
| 18:48.33 | Akbar | radeonfb doesn't work with fglrx right? |
| 18:49.04 | pietro | hi,for install debian with g5(apple) i have the problem with the rilevation of cdrom....(sorry for my english)where is the problem? |
| 18:49.20 | pietro | sto installando debian su un imac g5,e ha dei probl. con il rilevamento del cdrom,sapete aiutarmi? |
| 18:49.25 | antgel | pietro: rilevation isn't a word |
| 18:49.31 | pietro | ? |
| 18:49.31 | Akbar | :P |
| 18:49.38 | antgel | !tell pietro about it |
| 18:49.58 | pietro | ok |
| 18:50.01 | bizkit | =) |
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| 18:50.32 | cddesjar | maybe he means the way the cd revolves? |
| 18:50.33 | blondie | pietro: speak English |
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| 18:50.39 | blondie | revolution |
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| 18:50.54 | aalex | hi |
| 18:51.00 | cddesjar | !hi |
| 18:51.00 | dpkg | hello, cddesjar |
| 18:51.21 | bizkit | blondie: with revolution the sentence is nonsense? |
| 18:51.24 | aalex | is there a way to do apt-get install http://some.package.com/pack.deb ? |
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| 18:51.38 | bizkit | aalex: get the package and use dpkg -i |
| 18:51.38 | cddesjar | aalex: dpkg -i *.deb |
| 18:51.39 | takatumi | aalex: dpkg -i it instead. |
| 18:51.48 | cddesjar | aalex: what's the package..is it in the repositories? |
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| 18:51.55 | aalex | cool |
| 18:51.58 | blondie | bizkit: it's nonsense anyway |
| 18:51.59 | pietro | my iMac g5 not run the installation of S.O debian why the cdrom not is configured |
| 18:52.16 | cddesjar | so the cdrom isn't recognized? |
| 18:52.21 | aalex | well, most of the packages i wanna install these days are in unstable and stable, but not in testing |
| 18:52.23 | aalex | :-( |
| 18:52.31 | aalex | i am on Etch/testing |
| 18:52.31 | cddesjar | i see |
| 18:52.48 | bizkit | help pietro by giving him the right channel, i can't figure the language out |
| 18:52.49 | cddesjar | it's a hard life living in flux between a world of stability and a world of unstability |
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| 18:53.03 | _rene_ | probably because they got removed because they are buggy |
| 18:53.05 | takatumi | aalex: installing it that way might break your system, dependencies, try backports instead. |
| 18:53.06 | blondie | "instability" |
| 18:53.08 | _rene_ | or held up transitions |
| 18:53.08 | aalex | pietro: hablas espanol? |
| 18:53.19 | cddesjar | oops...i made up a word |
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| 18:53.37 | cddesjar | pietro: what is your native language? |
| 18:53.53 | blondie | gibberish :) |
| 18:53.57 | Fraze | antgel: I need a newer verision of libparted because I need it for resizing a ntfs partition, with qtparted |
| 18:54.08 | cddesjar | Fraze: use ntfsresize |
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| 18:54.10 | eike | hi! i can't update to testing or unstable without removing 84 (resp. 158) packages. any way to get a working installation without losing dozens of programs i use? |
| 18:54.25 | netsurf3 | uck i still can't find the font -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 |
| 18:54.33 | cddesjar | eike: stick with sarge :) |
| 18:54.36 | Fraze | cddesjar: It's very hard to use, and i'm really afraid to destroy the harddisk |
| 18:54.44 | antgel | eike: use aptitude interactively. if you want to use testing or unstable you should be able to cope with this |
| 18:54.52 | cddesjar | Fraze: there is a great website for it |
| 18:54.52 | eike | cddesjar: *sniff* |
| 18:54.52 | cddesjar | hold on |
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| 18:55.03 | Fraze | cddesjar: Really? |
| 18:55.05 | antgel | Fraze: i would 1. look for a sarge backport. 2. build my own sarge backport |
| 18:55.17 | Eno_ | in kde, when i run "xchat" it runs the copy in /usr/bin/xchat. but when i open up a terminal in kde and run it, it chooses /usr/local/bin/xchat. why would this be? |
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| 18:55.24 | eike | antgel: so there is a possibility to use say k3b in unstable? i read it's not included in testing yet... |
| 18:55.28 | Fraze | antgel: backport..hmm.. |
| 18:55.32 | antgel | Eno_: because your path is different |
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| 18:55.50 | cddesjar | Fraze: here it is http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#cli |
| 18:56.10 | antgel | !iyhtays eike |
| 18:56.10 | dpkg | eike: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 18:56.14 | Fraze | cddesjar: Thanks :) |
| 18:56.18 | gpm | hey guys. is the easiest way to convert ogg to mp3 to decode it and then encode the result with lame or something? |
| 18:56.21 | Eno_ | antgel: so KDE doesn't use the PATH variable? |
| 18:56.28 | antgel | eike: is there any reason you don't use stable? |
| 18:56.44 | cddesjar | Fraze: no problem...if you have questions...i've helped someone resize using those instructions before |
| 18:56.46 | antgel | Eno_: i have no idea what kde does |
| 18:56.51 | Fraze | cddesjar: :) |
| 18:56.56 | eguzkia | hello |
| 18:57.06 | antgel | gpm: it's the only way. beware shit sound quality |
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| 18:57.09 | bizkit | Eno_: just change this link / menu entry to use /usr/local/bin/xchat |
| 18:57.11 | Eno_ | antgel: well.. it was doing it in openbox, too... i can open up xterms and its fine |
| 18:57.13 | eguzkia | some help to compile my kernel please! |
| 18:57.15 | eike | antgel: i used to use testing for years and wanted to stick with sarge for a while, but now i need some programs not included in it (like postgresql guis). |
| 18:57.15 | gpm | antgel: how does one decode ogg? |
| 18:57.17 | antgel | hi doctor nick |
| 18:57.21 | Eno_ | bizkit: that's what i did.. |
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| 18:57.30 | takatumi | eguzkia: be more vague. |
| 18:57.37 | Own4g3 | hello |
| 18:57.50 | bizkit | Eno_: i don't know how kde handles the PATH variable.. |
| 18:57.52 | stouset | eguzkia: Why are you compiling your kernel? |
| 18:57.53 | gpm | eguzkia: what are you having trouble with? |
| 18:57.58 | antgel | eike: postgresql guis? do me a favour. imo you should have backported them. now you can see why testing isn't the mecca that some people think it is |
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| 18:58.26 | Fraze | Bye bye |
| 18:58.28 | antgel | Eno_: your path is probably set to /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin/ |
| 18:58.53 | cddesjar | sunny and -18 out |
| 18:58.55 | eike | antgel: or like a kdevelop that doesn't crash as often as it does. (now, i don't want to write programs with emacs or vi). |
| 18:58.59 | cddesjar | what a beautiful day |
| 18:59.14 | stouset | eike: Eclipse :P |
| 18:59.15 | Eno_ | antgel: yes. "/usr/local/bin" is first and then "/usr/bin". |
| 18:59.20 | eguzkia | i'd like just to know the step to compile a new kernel |
| 18:59.36 | gpm | eguzkia: there is more than one step |
| 18:59.37 | antgel | eike: so what? now you have learnt that debian is not for users who think they need the latest software. |
| 18:59.40 | takatumi | eike: if you can't live without it, upgrade. |
| 18:59.43 | antgel | Eno_: that's why then |
| 18:59.44 | stouset | eguzkia: Generally, we recommend against compiling your own kernel. There's rarely ever a valid reason to do it. |
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| 18:59.49 | HydraNL | need some help on installing debian on a dell poweredge sc 430 ... the thing only accepts red hat enterprise 4 |
| 18:59.55 | eike | sTone_heAd: tried it, but it didn't really appeal. perhaps i'll have another look... |
| 18:59.58 | antgel | takatumi: eike is already using testing |
| 18:59.59 | gpm | eguzkia: it's a long, torturous process...which why you should avoid it unless it is really necessary |
| 18:59.59 | HydraNL | some one can help me out ? |
| 19:00.00 | takatumi | antgel: at times your track is very narrow. |
| 19:00.07 | Eno_ | antgel: well, it's not running the xchat in /usr/local/bin, but i would like it to |
| 19:00.10 | predius_ | hey, guys, can I set a partition to act as a cd? |
| 19:00.13 | antgel | takatumi: oh, please explain |
| 19:00.16 | eike | antgel: *sigh* imagine, i knew that before |
| 19:00.17 | Eno_ | antgel: it is running /usr/bin/xchat instead |
| 19:00.17 | predius_ | using dd? |
| 19:00.25 | stouset | gpm: Well, it's not really that bad :) It's just extraordinarily prone to catastrophic user error... |
| 19:00.27 | predius_ | and an iso |
| 19:00.28 | eike | antgel: i was using. i'm not atm. |
| 19:00.30 | gpm | Eno_: why don't you just uninstall the one in /usr/bin then? |
| 19:00.41 | sTone_heAd | eike, me what? |
| 19:00.45 | antgel | Eno_: so alter your menu. read /usr/share/doc/menu |
| 19:00.50 | sTone_heAd | ah nm |
| 19:00.51 | gpm | stouset: yes...and when you have to live with your mistakes...that's torturous |
| 19:00.52 | Eno_ | ahh.. thanks |
| 19:00.56 | eguzkia | i'd like to tune my desktop |
| 19:00.57 | antgel | eike: ah. you back on sarge? |
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| 19:01.01 | eike | sTone_heAd: am, sorry, wrong nick completion |
| 19:01.07 | gpm | stouset: assuming no mistakes, it's kinda cool...in an incredibly dorky way |
| 19:01.07 | stouset | gpm: hehe |
| 19:01.13 | gpm | eguzkia: you don't need to |
| 19:01.15 | eguzkia | i'd like to tune my notebook! |
| 19:01.17 | antgel | eguzkia: you need gentoo to tune your desktop :P |
| 19:01.22 | eike | antgel: i used sarge when it was testing and i'm still using it. now i wanted to get back to testing |
| 19:01.22 | bizkit | *g* |
| 19:01.35 | gpm | eguzkia: antgel is right. |
| 19:01.47 | stouset | gpm: Bleh, I wouldn't necessarily agree. I don't consider massive, risky wastes of time and effort to be something that improves my opinion of a person :) Not to say I'm not guilty of doing it, myself... |
| 19:01.48 | MrBallZ | is there a way to install kde 3.5 on sarge ??? with Xorg ? =) |
| 19:02.07 | antgel | eguzkia: i suggest you spend more time using your machine and less time wasted on pointless crap |
| 19:02.07 | stouset | MrBallZ: I believe KDE 3.5 is in experimental. |
| 19:02.15 | cbr | stouset: no |
| 19:02.22 | zcot | want to rebuild the kernel to add the snd_sbawe driver.. can I find the sources with aptitude? or I have a link klys mentioned. |
| 19:02.22 | stouset | cbr: 3.4? |
| 19:02.25 | Eno_ | gpm: i guess that's the best way |
| 19:02.27 | gpm | stouset: oh yeah, but i mean it's cool for the person doing it. |
| 19:02.32 | antgel | MrBallZ: sarge is stable. /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:02.47 | gpm | Eno_: well, there's just no point in having two xchats is there? |
| 19:02.56 | Eno_ | gpm: nope |
| 19:03.03 | stouset | gpm: Well, until he mentions it to people in #debian hehe |
| 19:03.14 | antgel | zcot: why don't you try? |
| 19:03.16 | gpm | stouset: true |
| 19:03.20 | MrBallZ | so , coulde there be a backport of kde 3.5 ? |
| 19:03.28 | gpm | can anyone please tell me how to decode ogg to wav? |
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| 19:03.55 | takatumi | eguzkia: compile away, are you using kernel-package? |
| 19:03.59 | antgel | gpm: dpkg -L vorbis-tools |grep bin |
| 19:03.59 | stouset | MrBallZ: There probably will be, although there are some pretty major changes that seem difficult to backport (dbus/hal things, primarily), so it will probably be a considerable while. |
| 19:04.00 | gpm | MrBallZ: there could indeed |
| 19:04.02 | zcot | antgel: I will.. just wanted a little poke i guess ;) |
| 19:04.08 | antgel | takatumi: why is my track narrow? |
| 19:04.18 | antgel | !tell zcot about kp |
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| 19:04.37 | gpm | antgel: of course...to compliment oggenc there is oggdec. d'oh |
| 19:04.45 | eguzkia | takatumi: i'd like only to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.14! |
| 19:04.54 | telpoch|home | hi all.. i'm trying to upgrade on unstable a machine that had not been updated in 2 years... well i'm at the point in which dpkg and apt don't work cuz of a glibc version... the .deb was downloaded but not installed... can i save the install or do i need to reinstall? |
| 19:04.55 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai all.. i'm trying to upgrade on unstable a machine that had not been updated in 2 years... well i'm at the point in which dpkg and apt don't work cuz of a glibc version... the .deb was downloaded but not installed... can i save the install or do i need to reinstall! |
| 19:04.57 | stouset | MrBallZ: Of course, if you *really* want it, you can always just grab the tarballs from KDE's website, but, of course, you lose a lot of convenience and risk breaking things by doing so :\ |
| 19:05.02 | takatumi | antgel: you are a little too obsessed with forcing people to use stable and limit choice. |
| 19:05.25 | stouset | eguzkia: Install the new kernel then. linux-image-2.6.14-<arch? |
| 19:05.29 | takatumi | let the user decide, no need for over-FUD. |
| 19:05.32 | antgel | takatumi: why am i too obsessed with it? i'm not limiting anyone's choice. they can do what they want |
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| 19:05.37 | stouset | s/\?/\>/ |
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| 19:06.13 | pihhan | hi |
| 19:06.15 | gpm | eguzkia: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.14 if you're not sure how the developers labeled your architecture |
| 19:06.33 | stouset | telpoch|home: I know there's a solution to it...some people upgrading from woody -> etch ran into the same thing... |
| 19:06.40 | antgel | takatumi: if you want to sit there explaining to so many people where amarok, k3b, and their mouse have gone, be my guest. a lot of work went into the release and many people who think they need testing or unstable don't |
| 19:07.00 | MrBallZ | so what about the backport for kde 3.4 , is it good and stable ... ( MrBallZ is still a n00b when it comes to unstable & testing stuff and why they cant go into sarge easily ) |
| 19:07.02 | pihhan | i have problem a bit, my computer reports 100% cpu usage, but top does not show processes with bigger cpu usage |
| 19:07.22 | takatumi | antgel: how do you know? have you tried it? |
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| 19:07.23 | antgel | takatumi: tried what? |
| 19:07.35 | stouset | MrBallZ: If it exists, I would assume it's fairly stable. You can always uninstall it if otherwise. |
| 19:08.17 | stouset | takatumi: Actually, those things are broken in Sarge currently. |
| 19:08.17 | stouset | takatumi: er, testing, not sarge. |
| 19:08.17 | antgel | MrBallZ: because of library conflicts |
| 19:08.18 | takatumi | stouset: testing is usually more broken than unstable in my experience. |
| 19:08.31 | eguzkia | stouset: the problem is that when i reboot my notebook with the new kernel, i receive an error: KERNEL PANIC CANNOT READ ON HDA1 |
| 19:08.40 | antgel | takatumi: better tell more people to use it :P |
| 19:08.48 | MrBallZ | antgel: and why do other distros do get them faster, im not flamewaring or nothing i |
| 19:08.49 | gpm | eguzkia: is that all it sayys? |
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| 19:08.53 | PhoenixMan | Hello. I just installed vncserver and the KDE Desktop and it's working fine for root. |
| 19:08.55 | julls | buenas tardes |
| 19:08.59 | gpm | amigo |
| 19:08.59 | amphi | eguzkia: is this one you built yourself? |
| 19:09.02 | MrBallZ | antgel: and why do other distros do get them faster, im not flamewaring or nothing i'm loyal to Debian , but can you elaborate ... |
| 19:09.08 | PhoenixMan | However, when I goto another user, the X Server fails and the mouse becomes an X and nothing happens., |
| 19:09.12 | stouset | takatumi: Which is part of antgel's larger concern...that at any given point in time, *something* is pretty much guaranteed to be broken in testing/unstable, and require somewhat technical knowledge to overcome. Technical knowledge that a lot of users coming in here for the first time don't have (or they generally wouldn't be asking), and in many cases don't want to know or have, thus driving people away :\ |
| 19:09.12 | takatumi | antgel: I usually don't propound much. |
| 19:09.12 | julls | alguien me puede decir algun servidor bueno en emule...lleva unos dias q va como................ |
| 19:09.14 | antgel | MrBallZ: you need to learn about debian. /msg dpkg grounding. /msg dpkg releases |
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| 19:09.20 | PhoenixMan | I think that there's an error in the permissions. |
| 19:09.27 | Eulex | !es |
| 19:09.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:09.29 | PhoenixMan | How do I allow other users to have vncserver with the KDE Desktop? |
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| 19:09.39 | julls | alguienm e puede decir algun servidor bueno en emule..levas unos dias...q ..?? |
| 19:09.54 | amphi | !tell julls about es |
| 19:09.57 | Eulex | julls, goto #debian-es |
| 19:09.58 | antgel | PhoenixMan: you configure vncserver appropriately, as per the manpages and other docs |
| 19:10.05 | _Award_ | Where is the debian package archive located? (I recall there was one) (I'm looking for a udev package >=058 that works on 2.6.x kernels lower the .12. |
| 19:10.08 | PhoenixMan | Huh? |
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| 19:10.43 | stouset | eguzkia: It's extraordinarily unlikely that if you compiled it yourself the problem would go away. File a bug (reportbug), and wait for the next revision to come out. |
| 19:10.46 | valdyn | !tell _Award_ -about sdn |
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| 19:11.18 | _Award_ | valdyn: Thanks. |
| 19:12.13 | stouset | Echo. |
| 19:12.14 | gpm | valdyn: for the stuff that was lost on sdn because of harddisk troubles...do we just have to look on google for it? |
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| 19:12.33 | antgel | gpm: it's gone |
| 19:12.55 | stouset | gpm: Not likely the packages are archived anywhere else. |
| 19:12.57 | blondie | bless |
| 19:13.04 | zcot | what's a tool for a .gz readme? |
| 19:13.06 | stouset | gpm: Oh quit being such a baby. Find diffs and start working your way back :) |
| 19:13.12 | blondie | zcot: eh? |
| 19:13.13 | gpm | zcot: zcat, zless |
| 19:13.16 | amphi | zcot: zless |
| 19:13.17 | blondie | vim |
| 19:13.18 | valdyn | gpm: probably, but the need for files from 2004 should be quite rare |
| 19:13.22 | antgel | zcot: most |
| 19:13.23 | blondie | vim supports gz |
| 19:13.32 | takatumi | so does emacs |
| 19:13.37 | gpm | zcat |
| 19:13.39 | gpm | zless |
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| 19:13.42 | antgel | !start an editor war |
| 19:13.42 | dpkg | nano users are really backwards |
| 19:13.50 | gpm | he wants to READ it..since it's a readme |
| 19:13.50 | stouset | I just do zlib decompression in realtime... |
| 19:13.54 | stouset | dpkg: screw you :( |
| 19:13.58 | gpm | lol |
| 19:14.09 | stouset | gpm: Maybe he wants to edit it :) |
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| 19:14.19 | gpm | stouset: a readme? |
| 19:14.29 | stouset | Sure. *someone* has to write them at some point. |
| 19:14.32 | predius_ | stouset: owned :) |
| 19:14.32 | zcot | hehe.. you guys O_O |
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| 19:14.43 | gpm | stouset: yeah...usually the guy who gzips it when he's done |
| 19:14.45 | antgel | zcot: it's crazy in here |
| 19:14.47 | Eulex | http://snapshot.debian.net/du/du.png :) you can really see when sarge was released and development became faster again :) |
| 19:14.53 | paulswm | antgel: no shit |
| 19:15.01 | stouset | gpm: Unless he's cool like me and types it in zlib format... |
| 19:15.09 | antgel | paulswm: np - uriah heep (again) |
| 19:15.17 | paulswm | YAY |
| 19:15.25 | gpm | stouset: so cool |
| 19:15.25 | bornxbackwards | debian is 14 cds? |
| 19:15.33 | paulswm | !prize antgel |
| 19:15.34 | corvax | ugh im still trying to make a debian package out of a source tar.bz2 file i have checkinstall installed |
| 19:15.37 | antgel | bornxbackwards: you don't need them all |
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| 19:15.50 | corvax | i run ./configure seems to go fine |
| 19:15.50 | zcot | bornxbackwards: i started with 2 floppies ;) |
| 19:15.58 | antgel | paulswm: my prize is the rawness of the album, and the hammond :) |
| 19:16.01 | bornxbackwards | 14cds is insane |
| 19:16.04 | corvax | i do make i get all kinds of errors |
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| 19:16.09 | predius_ | corvax: --prefix=/usr |
| 19:16.23 | antgel | bornxbackwards: it's the largest FLOSS release since sliced bread |
| 19:16.30 | paulswm | antgel: Heh. I was listening to CDarlos' Switched On Bach the other day, with the Moog |
| 19:16.32 | adughep | anybody knows a torrent client with http proxy support ??? |
| 19:16.33 | takatumi | bornxbackwards: you also have a ~40MB mini iso that works. |
| 19:16.36 | paulswm | Carlos' |
| 19:16.39 | stouset | gpm: Yeah. Computing the huffman trees before you've actually written your program is actually kind of a bitch, though. |
| 19:16.43 | antgel | paulswm: i don't know that |
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| 19:17.00 | corvax | ill try |
| 19:17.13 | gpm | stouset: unfortunately, i wouldn't know. i'm not much of a programmer, hacker or anything. i'm just a linux enthusiast. |
| 19:17.20 | thingfish | !floss |
| 19:17.20 | dpkg | it has been said that floss is Free, Libre, and Open Source Software |
| 19:17.22 | predius_ | corvax: is the package in the debian archive? |
| 19:17.35 | corvax | no |
| 19:17.39 | corvax | its called metatheme |
| 19:17.43 | antgel | gpm: hey, less of the "just"! |
| 19:17.44 | adughep | anybody knows a torrent client with http proxy support ??? |
| 19:17.53 | corvax | the newest version |
| 19:17.55 | MrBallZ | adughep: azureus ... |
| 19:17.56 | paulswm | antgel: I'll have to make a track available. Also, Keith Emerson when with the Nice does a nice Hammond bit if jazzed Bach |
| 19:18.02 | paulswm | s/if/of/ |
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| 19:18.22 | adughep | NrBallz yes i know it but it has only socks proxy support |
| 19:18.30 | adughep | thanks anyway |
| 19:18.53 | darkness_ | WoW, i've just received some material from the OU on computer courses and there is one on open source :-) |
| 19:18.54 | corvax | MetaTheme is a project dedicated to unification of appearance between different graphics toolkits (currently GTK2, QT and Java). |
| 19:18.55 | antgel | corvax: looks like an interesting package. i'd like to see that in debian |
| 19:19.07 | adughep | for windows there is bitcomet but for linux? |
| 19:19.21 | corvax | yeah its pretty cool |
| 19:19.27 | predius_ | adughep: bitcomet sucks. |
| 19:19.28 | stouset | gpm: the big thing behind most compression is Huffman encoding. Basically, you make a tree of your data that represents the frequency of various chunks of data, then you continue to simplify that tree. |
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| 19:19.31 | predius_ | utorrent |
| 19:19.38 | mjk64 | Am I too stupid for pvcreate, or is it too stupid for me? I do this: dd if=/dev/zero of=snapvolume.4k bs=4k count=1; losetup /dev/loop/1 snapvolume.4k; pvcreate /dev/loop/1 --- and pvcreate claims: Device /dev/loop/1 not found. --- which is *wrong*, the device exists: losetup /dev/loop/1 says: /dev/loop/1: [fe00]:353479 (snapvolume.4k) |
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| 19:19.42 | stouset | gpm: Net result, the compression actually used is adapted to the actual data beforehand. |
| 19:19.43 | predius_ | you can use azureus for linux |
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| 19:20.00 | gpm | stouset: cool. it actually makes sense to me |
| 19:20.31 | adughep | k preduis |
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| 19:20.49 | PhoenixMan | Hi |
| 19:21.06 | adughep | i interest only in downloading no metter how::) |
| 19:21.12 | PhoenixMan | I'm receiving multiple errors of my users on /dev/null. Can I chmod this /dev/null file to 777 or something to fix the problem? What should I do? |
| 19:21.14 | stouset | gpm: Hence the joke about being able to do that *before* the data exists :) |
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| 19:21.25 | adughep | yes i know ican use it but there is no http proxy support |
| 19:21.25 | PhoenixMan | Certain applications won't even run because of this /dev/null! |
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| 19:21.35 | antgel | PhoenixMan: please stop trolling the channel. you were funny at first but now tedious. |
| 19:21.44 | PhoenixMan | Huh? |
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| 19:21.59 | stouset | PhoenixMan: What's the specific error your programs are getting |
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| 19:22.04 | PhoenixMan | ....what? I get an error at line 18 that /dev/null: permission denied. |
| 19:22.12 | PhoenixMan | of Xsession on my X Server |
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| 19:22.18 | antgel | stouset: if there's a bad joke about huffman encoding, i haven't heard it |
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| 19:22.33 | PhoenixMan | I was just asking if I could chmod /dev/null to 777 or something without messing up the system |
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| 19:22.46 | mjk64 | PhoenixMan: You can. |
| 19:22.50 | mjk64 | PhoenixMan: Which mode is it now? |
| 19:22.50 | PhoenixMan | Okay |
| 19:22.51 | stouset | PhoenixMan: You can. Try upgrading udev, too. |
| 19:22.52 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: it should be rw all |
| 19:23.08 | stouset | PhoenixMan: chmod 666 it, not 777 |
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| 19:23.15 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: but if you are using udev chmod wont fix this permanently. |
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| 19:23.32 | mjk64 | stouset: Does that really matter? The SuSE /dev/null is 777. |
| 19:23.51 | antgel | mjk64: um, should /dev/null be executable? |
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| 19:24.11 | mjk64 | antgel: Well, it /shouldn't/, but does it matter? |
| 19:24.16 | stouset | mjk64: Well, I assume executing nothing probably isn't a security risk, but what's the point :) |
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| 19:24.21 | mjk64 | stouset: =) |
| 19:24.30 | stouset | mjk64: It *could* be a security risk in the future! |
| 19:24.40 | mjk64 | stouset: OMG! %-) |
| 19:24.49 | antgel | mjk64: if you think it shouldn't, then it's a-x. |
| 19:24.51 | stouset | mjk64: An unnoticed backdoor into our systems could eventually sneak in via the executability of /dev/null... |
| 19:24.55 | bsdboy | Anything could be a security risk. |
| 19:25.03 | eguzkia | please help me to find a solution to this: kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknow-block (3,7) |
| 19:25.07 | mjk64 | antgel: Err ... what's a-x? |
| 19:25.25 | stouset | mjk64: remove execute from all |
| 19:25.25 | mjk64 | stouset: We'll read about that in some newsticker for sure! |
| 19:25.28 | antgel | mjk64: sorry, as in chmod a-x :) |
| 19:25.42 | mjk64 | antgel: ah, sorry =) I rarely use the sybolic chmod notation, anyway. |
| 19:25.52 | gpm | eguzkia: it means the kernel can't mount your / partition |
| 19:26.00 | antgel | mjk64: *nod* |
| 19:26.13 | gpm | eguzkia: it could be because the device is broken, or it could be because the kernel can't mount whatever filesystem your / is |
| 19:26.14 | antgel | eguzkia: use a pre-built kernel image |
| 19:26.15 | stouset | mjk64: I'm only being half-serious, too. You never know, that's why you reduce permissions to as little as possible to make the system usable* (*for various interpretations of the term 'usable') |
| 19:26.18 | zcram | bye |
| 19:26.48 | mjk64 | stouset: I fully agree, of course -- just in my case (old, half-broken SuSE box, it /really/ doesn't matter :-) |
| 19:27.04 | stouset | if you insist :) |
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| 19:27.10 | paulswm | eguzkia: did you build your own kerne;? |
| 19:27.30 | stouset | Whoops. A little agressive with the Ctrl+W. |
| 19:27.43 | eguzkia | paulswm: yes |
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| 19:28.07 | paulswm | eguzkia: Then you didn't compile in support for your root device/root filesystem, you need to do that |
| 19:28.35 | antgel | mjk64: ah, you didn't say it was a broken box. in that case, 0777 is fine, and you can chgrp www-data as well :) |
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| 19:28.38 | stouset | eguzkia: Use a prebuilt kernel. |
| 19:29.05 | amphi | eguzkia: or build device & root fs support into the kernel monolithically |
| 19:29.06 | mjk64 | antgel: I guess even chmod 777 / wouldn't matter here. ;-) |
| 19:29.35 | stouset | mjk64: Of course not, it's a suse box. |
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| 19:29.47 | mjk64 | stouset: =) |
| 19:29.59 | corvax | still cant get it to work |
| 19:30.15 | corvax | i guess i need to do more readiong or somthing |
| 19:30.43 | corvax | maybe im issuing the strings or somthing i dunno |
| 19:30.43 | mjk64 | corvax: Yeah, more radioing will help! %-) |
| 19:30.55 | corvax | wrong* |
| 19:30.59 | eguzkia | paulswm: so it's a choice, isn't it? |
| 19:31.06 | stouset | eguzkia: The problem is, that's not the only thing you've probably failed to include in your own kernel. So your entire week is likely going to be a trial-and-error process of selecting the right modules. Your life will be greatly enriched by just using one of the more than capable prebuilt kernels. |
| 19:31.10 | corvax | lol |
| 19:31.24 | corvax | yeah and maybe some sleep |
| 19:31.31 | antgel | eguzkia: how many people need to tell you the same thing? |
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| 19:31.35 | mjk64 | corvax: Yeah, sheep will help, too. |
| 19:31.39 | eguzkia | paulswm: can you help me? |
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| 19:31.46 | stouset | eguzkia: n+1, where n is the current number of people who've said it already. |
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| 19:31.59 | stouset | eguzkia: Everyone in here has already attempted to help you, and you've completely ignored it. |
| 19:32.14 | stouset | antgel: Bleh, n+1 comment was directed at you... |
| 19:32.22 | antgel | stouset: i know :) |
| 19:32.30 | [Bart] | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.46 | mjk64 | [Bart]: ? |
| 19:32.53 | eguzkia | :) |
| 19:33.00 | [Bart] | mjk64 : just a typo :) |
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| 19:33.15 | sdakota | ehh, I'm having problems with bind9, it doesn't seem to be starting. where can I find bind's logs? |
| 19:33.21 | eguzkia | sorry to everybody but i can't understand english very well! |
| 19:33.25 | paulswm | eguzkia: google and read up on kernel building - start with the debian reference manual, it's too long a process to teach over IRC really :) You need to ensure that support for your root device and filesystem is built in. One way of finding out what you need is to boot a standard kernel and run lsmod to see what's loaded. |
| 19:33.25 | encompass | besides gftp is there another ftp program I can use that is made for gnome? |
| 19:33.40 | antgel | sdakota: syslog |
| 19:33.45 | sdakota | antgel: ehm |
| 19:33.51 | stouset | sdakota: /var/log/named |
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| 19:34.12 | ick | encompass: nautilus |
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| 19:34.17 | blondie | is it possible to get a Solaris-type CD to work properly in Linux? |
| 19:34.19 | antgel | stouset: i disagree |
| 19:34.23 | antgel | blondie: eh? |
| 19:34.24 | stouset | eguzkia: Do not build your own kernel. 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686' |
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| 19:34.24 | blondie | it doesn't show all the files |
| 19:34.37 | stouset | antgel: With? :P |
| 19:34.37 | sdakota | stouset, doesn't exist |
| 19:34.38 | blondie | I can mount it, but it doesn't show the contents properly |
| 19:34.39 | sdakota | antgel, checking |
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| 19:34.49 | valdyn | blondie: it uses stuff beyond joliet and rockridge? |
| 19:34.51 | encompass | sorry what was that? |
| 19:35.00 | stouset | sdakota: Are you using the Debian package? |
| 19:35.01 | blondie | yes, Solaris CDs are "weird" |
| 19:35.06 | blondie | they have slices |
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| 19:35.24 | sdakota | stouset: ofcourse |
| 19:35.25 | encompass | about the ftp program |
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| 19:35.36 | sdakota | stouset: why harder if i can do it easier ;) |
| 19:35.37 | stouset | sdakota: Last time I used it, the logs were in /var/log/named/* |
| 19:35.42 | stouset | sdakota: You'd be surprised... |
| 19:35.49 | sdakota | lol |
| 19:35.49 | brosio | if i install debian unstable from netinstall i can't install k3b cause c++ transition ? |
| 19:36.00 | lawnchair | is there any way to stop loggin to the console....i did dmesg -n5 but i still see msgs being spouted on when i type dmesg |
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| 19:36.03 | stouset | brosio: Despite the question mark, that's not a question... |
| 19:36.06 | asuffield | blondie: linux does support solaris slices, but I don't know if it's enabled by default or how you do it (who the fuck uses those? I've never seen one) |
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| 19:36.18 | antgel | !iyhtays brosio |
| 19:36.18 | dpkg | brosio: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
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| 19:36.24 | paulswm | eguzkia: Build your own kernel only if (1) you need to, or (2) want to learn how to do it. |
| 19:36.26 | blondie | hmm, can see them with fdisk /dev/hdc |
| 19:36.31 | antgel | stouset: that is an *excellent* point |
| 19:36.32 | encompass | I have a solaris bax |
| 19:36.33 | blondie | but the devices don't exist in /dev |
| 19:36.34 | encompass | box |
| 19:36.48 | brosio | if i install debian unstable from netinstall can i install k3b ? |
| 19:36.54 | brosio | better ? |
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| 19:37.09 | stouset | brosio: Well, *we*'re certainly not going to stop you. |
| 19:37.10 | sdakota | ok, syslog gives an error on these 3 lines: |
| 19:37.11 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.11 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.11 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:37.12 | stouset | :) |
| 19:37.28 | antgel | brosio: perhaps. unstable isn't supported |
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| 19:37.30 | difeta | hi all I'm connecting to my office through pptp. I'm able to connect and the dns servers are detected and I'm assigned an ip address. But I cannot ping the dns servers or any of the internal ipaddresses on our network. Any ideas? |
| 19:37.31 | dpkg | Many greetings, all I'm connecting to my office through pptp. I'm able to connect and the dns servers are detected and I'm assigned an ip address. But I cannot ping the dns servers or any of the internal ipaddresses on our network. Any ideas, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 19:37.35 | antgel | stouset: i might stop him :) |
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| 19:37.44 | antgel | eek |
| 19:37.45 | sdakota | sorry I left |
| 19:37.47 | antgel | the bot's alive! |
| 19:38.05 | sdakota | so, the problem is in: |
| 19:38.05 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.06 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.06 | sdakota | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:38.14 | sdakota | eek |
| 19:38.16 | paulswm | *sigh* |
| 19:38.18 | sdakota | i'm being kicked? |
| 19:38.22 | blondie | sdakota: please stop spamming |
| 19:38.22 | sdakota | ok, line-for-line then |
| 19:38.23 | paulswm | !beat sdakota |
| 19:38.23 | antgel | sdakota: are you doing for a paste-fest? |
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| 19:38.28 | Daveman | dakota :D |
| 19:38.40 | sdakota | sory, ... it's just 3 lines! thought the limit was 3... O.o |
| 19:38.54 | sdakota | in most channels, the limit is 3 o.O sorry, I'll pastebin |
| 19:39.04 | blondie | you did it twice, so 6 |
| 19:39.05 | blondie | ;P |
| 19:39.10 | paulswm | Heh blondie |
| 19:39.20 | sdakota | blondie: I wouldn't have done it twice if I wasn't kicked o.O |
| 19:39.34 | blondie | I don't see why you need to do it again |
| 19:39.42 | paulswm | sdakota: The first kick is what the FBI call a "clue" :P |
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| 19:40.11 | blondie | are you using a lame client that closes the window? ;P |
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| 19:41.19 | IRCMonkey_ | moi |
| 19:41.46 | encompass | moi |
| 19:41.51 | encompass | 'finland eh? |
| 19:41.51 | sdakota | paulswm, I was closing some channels, for example #ubuntu because now debian was on the server, and thought I accidently closed #debian too... |
| 19:41.58 | paulswm | Non, moi! |
| 19:42.03 | Juha_ | moi |
| 19:42.09 | IRCMonkey_ | just testing. srry for any inconveniance! |
| 19:42.10 | sdakota | No talking french here ^^ |
| 19:42.11 | paulswm | sdakota: I was just pulling your leg :) |
| 19:42.21 | sdakota | paulswm, Gimme my leg back ! >.< ;) |
| 19:42.28 | paulswm | Heh |
| 19:42.33 | encompass | sheesh |
| 19:42.37 | sdakota | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1210 |
| 19:42.41 | paulswm | !prise sdakota |
| 19:42.53 | IRCMonkey_ | bye! |
| 19:42.53 | sdakota | !prise paulswm |
| 19:42.57 | sdakota | and now... |
| 19:42.59 | sdakota | !prise dpkg |
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| 19:43.02 | sdakota | !!! ^^ |
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| 19:43.12 | sdakota | !prise itself |
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| 19:43.34 | paulswm | sdakota: There's a sheep moleting one in prise somewhere but it doesn't often seem to show up |
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| 19:43.42 | paulswm | molesting* |
| 19:43.52 | sdakota | eh |
| 19:44.12 | paulswm | Or goat |
| 19:44.20 | sdakota | there are 2 words I didnt understand in that sentance: moleting and prise |
| 19:44.43 | SimonRaven | !dict prise |
| 19:44.45 | dpkg | Dictionary 'prise' (2 of 30): . Prize \Prize\, n. [F. prise a seizing, hold, grasp, fr. pris, p. p. of prendre to take, L. prendere, prehendere; in some senses, as 2 (b), either from, or influenced by, F. prix price. See Prison, Prehensile, and cf. Pry, and also Price.] ;; 1. That which is taken from another; something captured; a thing seized by force, stratagem, or superior power.. |
| 19:44.59 | paulswm | sdakota: The command was "prise" and I was commenting on the responses, and I misspelled "molesting" |
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| 19:45.06 | paulswm | !prise sdakota |
| 19:45.08 | antgel | sdakota: i had a look at your pastebin. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 19:45.14 | paulswm | sdakota: there!!^^^^ |
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| 19:45.27 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 19:45.40 | sdakota | antgel: I have to execute that? Ok ? |
| 19:45.46 | findme | how can i find out which sound module I am using. Sound plays just great |
| 19:45.55 | paulswm | Sorry all, I have far too much time on my hands today |
| 19:46.02 | sdakota | antgel: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 19:46.06 | zcot | ok, installed kernel-package and build-essential.. so I need some kernel sources then? |
| 19:46.09 | findme | paulswm, me too |
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| 19:46.22 | antgel | sdakota: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:46.26 | zcot | and how may I get those? link or something? |
| 19:46.38 | antgel | zcot: aptitude search kernel-source |
| 19:46.47 | ick | zcot: I have read the docs once, and they were clear. I suggest you do the same. |
| 19:46.48 | zcot | great thanks ;) |
| 19:47.09 | antgel | zcot: stop winking and read the debian reference. /msg dpkg reference. ;) |
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| 19:47.23 | PhoenixMan | Well, that has been a waste of time. Uh. Hi. |
| 19:47.29 | zcot | ick: ok.. agreed.. i am struggling my way through |
| 19:47.37 | stouset | zcot: I would thoroughly recommend not building your own kernel. |
| 19:47.41 | sdakota | antgel: eh, sarge |
| 19:47.45 | ick | zcot: yes, it's non-trivial. |
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| 19:48.04 | ick | zcot: Configuration is a form of very complicated programming. |
| 19:48.08 | stouset | zcot: There's generally no point, it's a waste of time, and it's prone to catastropic, (essentially) unrecoverable user error. |
| 19:48.10 | eggy | okay.. I have mutiple ip addresses, how do I add them to debain's network config? |
| 19:48.11 | zcot | and yes after stopping to make sure gcc was there i go continuing |
| 19:48.19 | PhoenixMan | vncserver won't work from other users; it won't load the KDE Desktop like it's supposed to. I've already read the manual and all of that stuff, but it's not helping. The #vnc channel is empty, and I'm getting frustrated. How do I make it run KDE? |
| 19:48.25 | stouset | eggy: man interfaces |
| 19:48.51 | antgel | sdakota: i'm confused. sarge is libc6 2.3.5-3 |
| 19:48.52 | zcot | yes, stouset ty.. I'm aware of that have messed up a few kernels in my time. but I don't know what else to do |
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| 19:49.07 | antgel | *plonk |
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| 19:49.12 | stouset | zcot: Why? What's the problem? |
| 19:49.21 | sdakota | antgel: i thought it was sarge, I chose for "stable" in the netinst... |
| 19:49.23 | zcot | would love to just merely recompile the exact kernel but just adding for snd_sbawe |
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| 19:49.55 | zcot | it's an old isa-pnp card so it's not getting picked up automatically.. have done the rest of the isapnp configuration |
| 19:49.59 | stouset | zcot: The precompiled kernels come with everything as a module... |
| 19:50.02 | dvs | zcot: snd_sbawe is probably already a module |
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| 19:50.19 | antgel | sdakota: oops, i was on the wrong box :) |
| 19:50.41 | sdakota | antgel: ? |
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| 19:51.00 | dvs | !tell fpittAWAY about away |
| 19:51.15 | sdakota | !tell me about away |
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| 19:52.27 | blaze | exit |
| 19:52.32 | dvs | !exit |
| 19:52.32 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 19:52.47 | tam | lol |
| 19:52.55 | sdakota | lol |
| 19:52.57 | sdakota | !exit |
| 19:52.57 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 19:52.59 | sdakota | !exit |
| 19:53.02 | sdakota | yea, sure |
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| 19:54.39 | blondie | error |
| 19:54.47 | sdakota | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1210?ln=on&submit=Format+it%21 |
| 19:54.48 | mindflow | somone here that know the name for the DC hub package in debian? "if existing".. |
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| 19:56.27 | mindflow | ne 1 ? |
| 19:56.29 | HydraNL | need some help on installing debian on a dell poweredge sc 430 ... the thing only accepts red hat enterprise 4 |
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| 19:56.57 | sdakota | HydraNL: Let me guess - You're using HydraIRC and are from the Netherlands (just like me) ? |
| 19:57.02 | rambo3 | who buys dell?? |
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| 19:57.13 | dortiz | ls |
| 19:57.27 | sdakota | HydraNL: Dell's are delivered with an error |
| 19:57.30 | dortiz | hey are there any broken packages in unstable because gtk is borked for me |
| 19:57.33 | sdakota | HydraNL, Free of charge ^^ |
| 19:57.38 | bbrazil | mindflow: apt-cache search |
| 19:57.51 | predius_ | dortiz: no, unstable is never broken |
| 19:57.51 | predius_ | EVER |
| 19:57.51 | antgel | dortiz: yes |
| 19:57.58 | dvs | predius_: Pffffffftttttttttt! |
| 19:58.00 | predius_ | HydraNL: http://www.torfaen-fighttheplan.org.uk/about13730-debian-on-a-dell-poweredge-sc430.html |
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| 19:58.43 | predius_ | dvs: "yeah right, I know" :) |
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| 19:59.02 | predius_ | "yeah right" I know :) |
| 19:59.54 | PaNkePaSa | hi, does anyone know a graphical tool for installing .deb files? |
| 20:00.00 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: synaptic |
| 20:00.03 | predius_ | PaNkePaSa: synaptic |
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| 20:00.10 | dvs | predius_: Liar! ;-) |
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| 20:00.15 | PaNkePaSa | no, synaptic can't install a .deb file |
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| 20:00.31 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: Sure it can, indirectly. |
| 20:00.33 | Eulex | PaNkePaSa, xterm -e "dpkg -i pkgname" |
| 20:00.35 | PaNkePaSa | I mean, something that would do a "dpkg -i" |
| 20:00.38 | dortiz | antgel that's all I wanted to know because I have some flaky hardware :) |
| 20:00.50 | predius_ | I think both KDE and GNOME install it when you run the .deb. |
| 20:00.54 | dortiz | I wanted to know if today is the day to order a new laptop |
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| 20:01.02 | PaNkePaSa | dvs: what do you mean with indirectly? |
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| 20:01.20 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: synaptic is installing .deb files using apt-get |
| 20:01.32 | PaNkePaSa | I'm teaching to newbies and they don't like the console, I try to avoid it but is not as easy! |
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| 20:01.50 | Eulex | PaNkePaSa, then they gotta get used to it... |
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| 20:02.13 | PaNkePaSa | dvs: sure, but you can't add a downloaded .deb file to the package system with synaptic, let's say skype-whatever.deb |
| 20:02.17 | PaNkePaSa | can you? |
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| 20:02.28 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: nope |
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| 20:02.53 | predius_ | PaNkePaSa: can you try running it from konqueror or nautilus. |
| 20:02.58 | predius_ | I think it runs it |
| 20:03.00 | PaNkePaSa | dvs: That's it, so probably doing a script like "dpkg -i $i" would do the job |
| 20:03.01 | sdakota | Bind error: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1210 |
| 20:03.08 | sdakota | how to solve? =S |
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| 20:03.17 | PaNkePaSa | predius: you get a file roller app |
| 20:03.22 | geeKISSexy | Can a HEADER and FOOTER be added by default to pages that apache serves ? |
| 20:03.23 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: script? Why not just type it in? |
| 20:03.48 | PaNkePaSa | dvs: to avoid people to get into the terminal |
| 20:03.58 | sdakota | oh, already fixed, sorry |
| 20:04.07 | PaNkePaSa | imagine that your boss doesn't let you show the terminal to your pupils |
| 20:04.11 | sdakota | I put the options tag in already another options tag that I didnt see |
| 20:04.15 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: Why would you want people installing any sort of package? |
| 20:04.36 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: that means you have to give them root access |
| 20:04.41 | dvs | PaNkePaSa: or sudo |
| 20:04.48 | PaNkePaSa | dvs: yes, this is another issue |
| 20:05.08 | PaNkePaSa | IMHO debian should provide a way of installing apps in the home of a user |
| 20:05.15 | dortiz | well does anyone know more about the issue with gnome being broken |
| 20:05.25 | PaNkePaSa | easily I mean |
| 20:05.30 | dortiz | PaNkePaSa that's probably not to hard |
| 20:05.31 | PaNkePaSa | of course you can dpkg -x a .deb |
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| 20:05.59 | PaNkePaSa | dortiz: sure, but thinks like these are done by autopackage.org |
| 20:06.08 | PaNkePaSa | they've got great ideas |
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| 20:06.30 | findme | how can i record sound from oss drivers? |
| 20:06.35 | PaNkePaSa | but I'm sure it wouldnt be so difficult to implement in the apt system |
| 20:06.44 | predius_ | PaNkePaSa: tell the DE to tun gksu deb -i when a user double clicks the package. |
| 20:06.59 | predius_ | it will pop up and ask for root password, and try to install. |
| 20:07.08 | PaNkePaSa | predius_: yes, you can associate .deb to the script |
| 20:07.26 | predius_ | script? |
| 20:07.27 | dortiz | but is anyone here running gnome right now will the new libgtk in experimental work? |
| 20:07.30 | dortiz | or fix anything? |
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| 20:07.44 | PaNkePaSa | this is what i do know, but I was wondering if there exists such a tool |
| 20:08.02 | antgel | PaNkePaSa: we look forward to your implementation! |
| 20:08.06 | sdakota | how to clear the syslog file ? |
| 20:08.08 | PaNkePaSa | predius: gksu dpkg -i $1 |
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| 20:08.15 | predius_ | gksudo |
| 20:08.19 | antgel | !tell dortiz about anyone |
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| 20:08.38 | PaNkePaSa | predius_: yeah, or gnome-sudo, or kdesu... :-) |
| 20:08.44 | dortiz | antgel is gnome broken in unstable |
| 20:08.54 | rambo3 | my eth card is supported by ubuntus kernel but not sarges , how do find out what driver i need for my card and how do i load it |
| 20:08.57 | predius_ | PaNkePaSa: but you can just set it in nautilus or konqueror. |
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| 20:09.07 | Eulex | dortiz, why are you running gtk2 from experimental? |
| 20:09.08 | amphi | rambo3: lspci is a good start |
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| 20:09.20 | antgel | dortiz: please give it a rest. unstable isn't supported |
| 20:09.30 | PaNkePaSa | predius_: sure, that's the only way right now I guess |
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| 20:09.33 | sdakota | how to clear the syslog file ? |
| 20:09.35 | PaNkePaSa | thank you guys |
| 20:09.43 | Yarou | does Debian come with Tcl by default? |
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| 20:09.58 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: > /var/log/syslog |
| 20:09.59 | antgel | !pdo yarou |
| 20:10.04 | amphi | Yarou: you must install it |
| 20:10.08 | Yarou | alright |
| 20:10.09 | Yarou | thanks |
| 20:10.28 | dortiz | Eulex because I'm doing some bleeding edge development right now |
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| 20:10.34 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa: Thanks |
| 20:10.45 | rambo3 | amphi lscpi doesnt tell what driver it uses |
| 20:10.47 | dortiz | antgel im not telling you to fix it im asking if someone has the same issue |
| 20:10.58 | antgel | *plonk* |
| 20:11.01 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, but now nothing is written to it ! |
| 20:11.03 | Eulex | dortiz, heh. and you expect people to install gtk2 from experimental to run your app? |
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| 20:11.21 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, which is why I didn't just rm and touch the file.... =( |
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| 20:11.46 | dortiz | eventually what's in experimental trickles down to stable ya know? |
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| 20:12.02 | dvs | dortiz: not necessarily |
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| 20:12.30 | dortiz | dvs you know what i mean |
| 20:13.18 | dvs | dortiz: no, experimental package might not make it to stable or even unstable |
| 20:13.29 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: > is quicker :-) but just removing it would do the job, the syslogd would create it again |
| 20:13.58 | dortiz | dvs if gtk 3.0 is in experimental it will get to stable |
| 20:14.00 | dortiz | end of story |
| 20:14.04 | dortiz | maybe not that package |
| 20:14.05 | antgel | sdakota: if you remove it, i think you may need to restart syslogd |
| 20:14.13 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, so I remove it then syslogd recreates it - when I use > or rm and touch, it doesn't work |
| 20:14.40 | dortiz | dvs you're purposely splitting hairs in an effort to sound smarter than you are quit it |
| 20:14.52 | dvs | dortiz: no I'm not |
| 20:15.03 | sdakota | antgel / PaNkePaSa: the file is indeed recreated but when I restart bind9 it's not writing to syslog |
| 20:15.30 | dortiz | that's exactly what you are doing for all intents and purposes if a new gtk hits experimental |
| 20:15.33 | dvs | dortiz: gtk 3.1 might come out in the meantime and that might get into unstable |
| 20:16.02 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: check that syslogd is running |
| 20:16.09 | dortiz | ok you've proven your point the features propogate down |
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| 20:17.23 | dortiz | which if you're not splitting hairs is what the gist of my argument was |
| 20:17.48 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, I restarted it (/sbin/syslogd) |
| 20:18.19 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, ps and grep gave me: 8422 ? 00:00:00 syslogd |
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| 20:19.06 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: and is named running? |
| 20:19.15 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, sec |
| 20:19.25 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, 8301 ? 00:00:00 named |
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| 20:20.04 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: stop bind and start it again, you should get logging into syslog |
| 20:20.08 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, but it doesn't seem to be answering to remote requests |
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| 20:20.45 | sdakota | PaNkePaSa, Yea, It's writing to it now ! Thanks |
| 20:20.58 | PaNkePaSa | sdakota: np :-) |
| 20:21.19 | dvs | good |
| 20:21.44 | sdakota | At listen-on, do I have to put dots (.) after FQDN's too? named.conf.options |
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| 20:22.16 | sdakota | next to that, permission is denied to /etc/bind/rndc.key |
| 20:22.25 | grendal_prime | hey...any improvements? |
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| 20:23.22 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.29 | grendal_prime | ? |
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| 20:23.54 | grendal_prime | thats in testing...seems that stdc++6 is causeing alot of greif...well the lack of it in testing yet |
| 20:24.06 | grendal_prime | any news when that will be straightend out? |
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| 20:25.22 | grendal_prime | and think it would be a big deal using the one from unstable is probably the next question |
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| 20:27.11 | JtX | need help installing debian on sata. disk can't being recognized |
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| 20:27.55 | dvs | JTx: Did you use the linux26 option? |
| 20:28.11 | JtX | yep |
| 20:28.22 | JtX | hmm |
| 20:28.30 | JtX | any special parms |
| 20:28.33 | fusion | o.O doesnt dpkg have the debian marillat trigger anymore |
| 20:28.51 | dvs | Jtx: No. You'll probably have to use a testing install CD |
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| 20:29.13 | grendal_prime | fusion, trigger? |
| 20:29.13 | JtX | dvs: okay |
| 20:29.20 | fusion | yeah |
| 20:29.21 | fusion | trigger |
| 20:29.35 | fusion | like the install one |
| 20:29.38 | fusion | in the topic |
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| 20:29.47 | grendal_prime | what is a trigger? |
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| 20:29.58 | grendal_prime | im sorry....im just not understanding what your asking |
| 20:30.10 | fusion | like |
| 20:30.16 | fusion | you type something specific to it |
| 20:30.18 | fusion | and it replies |
| 20:30.20 | grendal_prime | i just recently pulled packages from milliart if thats what your asking..it is on line |
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| 20:30.39 | jelly | !test |
| 20:30.39 | dpkg | No, jelly, you're not online any more. |
| 20:30.46 | fusion | ah what i was after was the apt source, can you give that to me please? |
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| 20:30.53 | PDani | hi |
| 20:30.59 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 20:31.00 | grendal_prime | hold on |
| 20:31.13 | jelly | !marillat |
| 20:31.16 | PDani | bye |
| 20:31.18 | jelly | indeedy. |
| 20:31.37 | grendal_prime | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
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| 20:31.53 | fusion | thanks |
| 20:31.56 | grendal_prime | i hope this..works |
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| 20:32.05 | grendal_prime | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
| 20:32.13 | grendal_prime | oops |
| 20:32.20 | grendal_prime | Setting up libstdc++6-4.0-dev (4.0.2-4) ... |
| 20:32.33 | grendal_prime | thats what i hope works |
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| 20:34.32 | jan_ | is there a way to give a non-root user READ writes on a whole partition without using chmod, perhaps like a mount option? |
| 20:35.17 | dvs | jan_: Yea, use the -o rw option |
| 20:35.22 | dvs | jan_: for mount |
| 20:35.38 | jan_ | dvs: euh? |
| 20:35.39 | dvs | I mean ro option, sorry |
| 20:35.56 | jan_ | dvs: that will make it for _all_ users ro, thats not what i want :-) |
| 20:36.18 | jan_ | i want a user like 'backup, to have ro, and other users -> original file permissions |
| 20:36.21 | dpgumby | Hello, I am running 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8. I cannot mount my usbdrive. There is nothing in /proc but I think there should be /proc/usb. Any idea what might be wrong? |
| 20:36.33 | jan_ | dvs: root has rwx to everything, now i want backup to have rx |
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| 20:37.11 | Marc1 | hello |
| 20:37.21 | dpgumby | HI |
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| 20:37.51 | dvs | jan_: Try the uid and gid options |
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| 20:38.13 | galdo | hi - anybody here who can help me with my exim4 config? |
| 20:38.14 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai - anybody here who can help me with my exim4 config! |
| 20:38.43 | dvs | !test |
| 20:38.43 | dpkg | No, dvs, you're not online any more. |
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| 20:38.59 | galdo | noone? |
| 20:39.01 | galdo | :( |
| 20:39.01 | jelly | dpkg, marillat is deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main, substitute sarge for etch or sid if necessary |
| 20:39.01 | dpkg | ...but marillat is already something else... |
| 20:39.05 | ambrose | galdo, ask your question. |
| 20:39.13 | galdo | nice... |
| 20:39.18 | jelly | dpkg, marillat is also deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main, substitute sarge for etch or sid if necessary |
| 20:39.18 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
| 20:39.20 | ambrose | galdo, you might also like to know there is a #exim channel on freenode |
| 20:39.30 | jelly | !marillat |
| 20:39.34 | jelly | hrm |
| 20:39.37 | Marc1 | I want Install and configure jabber with authetication LDAP, anyone know where I can search a how to? |
| 20:39.44 | galdo | i think its a debian problem of having these parted config files |
| 20:40.00 | jelly | It just doesn't want to display the factoid. |
| 20:40.01 | ambrose | ok, well ask then |
| 20:40.20 | galdo | i want to configure my spamassis that it filters my spam-marked mail in one separate maildir |
| 20:40.24 | jelly | dpkg, what's wrong with you? |
| 20:40.34 | Lilldude10 | changed video card |
| 20:40.36 | jbroome | galdo: that's a procmail thing |
| 20:40.42 | galdo | but it wont work - system_filter not a known command |
| 20:40.50 | Lilldude10 | debian cant find rite drivers what i doo? got text mode onl |
| 20:41.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell Lilldude10 about drxx |
| 20:41.41 | galdo | i dont think that it only works with procmail - on my other (sorry - gentoo) server system_filter works with exim |
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| 20:42.34 | jelly | Lilldude10: what's the new card? |
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| 20:43.55 | levander | The grub manual warns me against installing grub with 'grub-install', but grub-install seems so much easier. Are people really doing it the 'native' way? |
| 20:44.17 | antgel | levander: grub-install is commonly used |
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| 20:45.01 | levander | antgel: yeah, i'm gonna stop biting my fingernails and just try grub-install, doesn't work, i'll have to go native |
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| 20:45.16 | _psionic_ | hi |
| 20:45.26 | levander | antgel: if i do it with grub-install, will my existing /boot/grub/menu.lst be maintained? |
| 20:46.09 | zinx | levander: update-grub maintains /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:46.15 | grendal_prime | so any major drawback to upgrading to gcc 4?? |
| 20:46.38 | antgel | levander: yes |
| 20:46.46 | levander | zinx: but i haven't even installed grub on that disk yet, i just copied partitions over onto it |
| 20:47.01 | ohad | hi, what pkg do i need to download in order to view mpeg's on noatun? |
| 20:47.11 | levander | antgel: i assume the 'native' install won't maintain grub/menu.lst? |
| 20:47.22 | levander | ohad: try mplayer |
| 20:47.23 | _psionic_ | anyone can help me with an 2.6.14 usb-storage problem? My usb-hdd with integrated memory-card reader doesn't work. |
| 20:47.24 | grendal_prime | you probably are looking for the win32codecs ohad |
| 20:47.25 | antgel | levander: fuck knows |
| 20:47.37 | antgel | !tell _psionic_ about ask |
| 20:47.40 | levander | antgel: cool, thanks man, i'm diving in |
| 20:47.40 | zinx | levander: i recommend either letting the debian installer do it, or having a working system and using 'grub-install /dev/hda' or whatever |
| 20:47.44 | grendal_prime | and what desktop are you using ohad ? |
| 20:47.57 | ohad | grendal_prime, kde3.4 |
| 20:48.13 | grendal_prime | use kplayer |
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| 20:48.24 | levander | ohad: oh, i don't think there's kde graphical front end for mplayer |
| 20:48.37 | grendal_prime | it will install dependent mplay files and it is much easyer to work wit |
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| 20:48.43 | grendal_prime | idiot proof actually |
| 20:48.44 | zinx | levander: grub doesn't write to menu.lst, ever, no matter how you install it.. debian has an "update-grub" script to maintain /boot/grub/menu.lst, which doesn't even care if grub's installed or not |
| 20:48.53 | grendal_prime | you can get ride of all other players if you have that on the machine |
| 20:49.04 | grendal_prime | my 4 year old usues it |
| 20:49.24 | ohad | grendal_prime, can't find kplayer in my sources |
| 20:49.34 | grendal_prime | add miliart |
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| 20:49.43 | _psionic_ | when I attach my usb-hdd without an memory card inserted the hdd get's the device sdb1. If a card is inserted all devices (sdb-e) and partitions are detected by usb-storage but no partitions are created. Anyone knows why? |
| 20:49.50 | grendal_prime | got to roll buy guys |
| 20:49.55 | levander | zinx: ah, that's why i never understood update-grub, i had completely incorrect assumptions about it |
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| 20:50.15 | jelly | !marillat |
| 20:50.24 | antgel | _psionic_: i have that as well. can't you live with it? |
| 20:50.27 | levander | zinx: yeah, i'm doing 'grub-install /dev/hda' - thanks |
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| 20:50.43 | jelly | nvz: can you check out why dpkg won't shot the marillat factoid? |
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| 20:50.56 | benoit | hi |
| 20:50.58 | antgel | !test |
| 20:50.58 | dpkg | Yes, antgel, you're still online. |
| 20:51.02 | jelly | s/shot/show/ |
| 20:51.05 | jelly | just that one. |
| 20:51.13 | antgel | !literal marillat |
| 20:51.13 | dpkg | "#debian marillat" is "an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt >= 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> || deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main, substitute sarge for etchsid if necessary" |
| 20:51.22 | _psionic_ | antgel, no... I want to access the memory cards. At the moment I only get access to the hdd (and only if no card is inserted) |
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| 20:51.31 | antgel | !factinfo marillat |
| 20:51.31 | dpkg | marillat -- last modified 12m 13s ago by jelly!n=jelly@islands.iskon.hr. |
| 20:51.32 | benoit | I have a problem with my keyboard on my laptop, I can't find the good one to have french accent, is someone can give me a help ? |
| 20:51.34 | _psionic_ | antgel, is this a known kernel bug? |
| 20:51.47 | antgel | perhaps it's to do with the # |
| 20:51.54 | nvz_ | jelly, i an on a bell phone right now. |
| 20:51.58 | jelly | antgel: I thought it was empty, so I added something. |
| 20:52.13 | antgel | dondelelcaro: why is the marillat factoid not working? ^^ |
| 20:52.35 | jelly | nvz_: np, someone else is handling that. |
| 20:52.35 | corp-mule | I'll never get out of this world alive |
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| 20:52.53 | antgel | _psionic_: i don't know. don't know what you mean by access to the hdd on a card reader |
| 20:53.03 | chass | hello. When i call callgrind i get the following error: valgrind: failed to start tool 'callgrind' for platform 'x86-linux': No such file or directory. I have all the required packages instaleld underd ebian unstable. any ideas? |
| 20:53.11 | Magdalene | morning |
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| 20:53.58 | pedro420 | nvz: Hey nandrew ! What else do I have to do to get this cdrom to work ? |
| 20:54.11 | Magdalene | pedro /mount |
| 20:54.12 | Magdalene | ? |
| 20:54.23 | antgel | !factstats toolong |
| 20:54.29 | dpkg | factoid key||value exceeding length (11 of 135): 463 - hot-swappable ;; 473 - cisc ;; 571 - fractional t1 ;; 615 - tcp/ip ;; 636 - raid 1 ;; 828 - superscalar processor ;; bilinear and trilinear filtering ;; dude what happened to my car #DEL# ;; http://packages.debian.org #DEL# ;; jackie can tell you a thing or two about debian ;; please i'd like to know if there. |
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| 20:54.43 | _psionic_ | antgel, the device I'm trying to use is an X-Drive II. That's an hdd with integrated memory card readers (used to copy the card content onto the disk while no pc is available). Everything worked with the 2.4 kernel usb-storage driver... |
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| 20:55.21 | antgel | _psionic_: i see odd behaviour with a multi-card reader. no card in, all four slots seen. one card in, only that one seen. try lkml |
| 20:55.42 | _psionic_ | antgel, ok... thanks... |
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| 20:56.19 | UnNo | Hey |
| 20:56.29 | corp-mule | hoy hoy |
| 20:56.45 | UnNo | i have a problem with a pcmcia card ethernet 3com and sarge ... |
| 20:56.52 | pedro420 | nvz: If you put a music cd in and try to play it, it says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,missing codepage or other error. |
| 20:56.53 | UnNo | is it possible to have a little help ? |
| 20:57.01 | chass | hello. When i call callgrind i get the following error: valgrind: failed to start tool 'callgrind' for platform 'x86-linux': No such file or directory. I have all the required packages instaleld underd ebian unstable. any ideas? |
| 20:57.40 | Magdalene | thats because doesnt like non standard cds |
| 20:57.44 | Magdalene | pedro |
| 20:58.02 | dvs | pedro420: you don't mount music CDs |
| 20:58.08 | Magdalene | music cds no filesys |
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| 20:58.14 | Thirsteh | Hey guys, what's the easiest way to make a script that connects to an FTP server, deletes a file and uploads a new one? |
| 20:58.16 | Magdalene | no mount |
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| 20:58.55 | Magdalene | oops rl calls |
| 20:58.58 | Magdalene | ttl |
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| 20:59.30 | antgel | Thirsteh: can't you rsync? |
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| 21:00.21 | Thirsteh | antgel, oh god, I forgot about that command, thanks :) |
| 21:00.21 | psnl | /w/win 8 |
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| 21:03.34 | Thirsteh | antgel, could you give me an example on how to sync a single local file with a remote file on an FTP server with login, please? |
| 21:04.00 | Lochost | hei everyone can help me ? i have a problem with PCMCIA ethernet 3 Com |
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| 21:05.54 | ohad | do i need any additional pkg for mplayer to play mpeg files? |
| 21:05.54 | antgel | Thirsteh: rsync runs over ssh not ftp. man rsync |
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| 21:06.35 | Thirsteh | antgel, ah, that's why I couldn't find an example for FTP. What I need is a way to do this via FTP as it's a ...whatcha call it, webhotel, so I don't have shell access |
| 21:06.43 | jelly | do something else |
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| 21:07.14 | grendal_prime | hey im having a hard time connecting to my sans cruzer |
| 21:07.15 | antgel | Thirsteh: write a bash script. probably. failing that, you could use expect to automate an interactive session. i'm going home now. good luck |
| 21:07.22 | grendal_prime | its a usb mass storage device.. |
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| 21:07.38 | Thirsteh | antgel, alright, thanks for your help |
| 21:07.52 | grendal_prime | use to connect with sda1 but seems that is not working now...what is the command to find out what device things are connected to? |
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| 21:09.08 | predius_ | grendal_prime: lsof |
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| 21:10.09 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
| 21:10.19 | marc_in_lux | I'm trying to install sarge on an lvm on a raid |
| 21:10.39 | tictac | hmm. xmms seems to be playing music about 3 times faster than normal. (sounds like chipmonks) |
| 21:10.52 | marc_in_lux | I couldn't find how to get the installer to build an lvm with reasonably large PE |
| 21:11.02 | marc_in_lux | is there a way? |
| 21:11.22 | sdakota | My nameserver is not responding anything about dazjorz.com - but the files seem to be allright |
| 21:11.55 | marc_in_lux | then I tried using knoppix to partition my drive, but all /dev/mdx pv's turned out to become /dev/hdx on a pvscan |
| 21:12.11 | marc_in_lux | what's the smart way to solve this? |
| 21:12.14 | Kluster_v2 | tictac.. you do know that Tic&Tac is the french translation for chip and dale from the rescue rangers.. and they DO sound like the cimpmonks |
| 21:12.30 | Kluster_v2 | so in your case it might be perfectly normal |
| 21:12.35 | tictac | ... |
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| 21:13.29 | red | how does one implement wpa2 in linux? (wifi works i just need to get wpa2 going) |
| 21:13.35 | grendal_prime | thaks predius_ |
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| 21:13.54 | Kluster_v2 | http://jeannero.free.fr/dessins-animes/ticettac.jpg |
| 21:14.01 | sdakota | can anyone help me with this: My nameserver is not responding anything about dazjorz.com - why is that? |
| 21:14.30 | grumpydog | sdakota, you need rdns |
| 21:15.38 | sdakota | grumpydog, rdns? I'm using bind9 |
| 21:15.42 | sdakota | rdns.. sec |
| 21:15.57 | Daveman | sdakota ^^ |
| 21:16.01 | grumpydog | sdakota, yeah :) |
| 21:16.14 | Daveman | sdakota, I can help, yes. |
| 21:16.15 | sdakota | grumpydog, Royal District Nursing Service - Home - www.rdns.com.au <-- you mean this? ^^ |
| 21:16.19 | Daveman | <3 bind |
| 21:16.21 | grendal_prime | predius_, that gives me soooo much info i cant find wha ti need in it |
| 21:16.22 | Daveman | haha au |
| 21:16.25 | sdakota | Daveman: Jeez, You seem to be everywhere lol |
| 21:16.30 | Daveman | YES! |
| 21:16.46 | grumpydog | sdakota, I mean't reverse DNS and that maybe the problem, |
| 21:16.52 | Daveman | sdakota :p |
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| 21:16.56 | Daveman | hoe bent jij? |
| 21:16.58 | sdakota | grumpydog, how? |
| 21:17.11 | sdakota | Daveman, ik bent goed hoor =) en jou? |
| 21:17.13 | sdakota | ;) |
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| 21:17.23 | grumpydog | sdakota, I am assuming you are setting your own hostname right? |
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| 21:17.38 | sdakota | grumpydog, own domainname, yes |
| 21:17.55 | Daveman | goed :) |
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| 21:18.39 | _joey | has ayone herad anything about instaling linux on flash memory ? |
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| 21:18.46 | grumpydog | Sorry guys urgent call out. |
| 21:18.56 | _joey | has anyone heard ... |
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| 21:19.05 | Kluster_v2 | _joey, yes I got it running on my usb watch |
| 21:19.07 | sdakota | daveman: dus hoe los ik dit op |
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| 21:19.21 | sdakota | grumpydog, so how to set up reverse dns |
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| 21:19.36 | Daveman | in your zone file :p |
| 21:19.45 | ke6isf | What's the argument for apt-cache to search only package names? |
| 21:19.50 | Daveman | create a reverse zone for dns |
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| 21:20.19 | sdakota | Daveman: what do I put |
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| 21:20.55 | Daveman | sdakota have you seen the howto examples? ^^ |
| 21:21.21 | sdakota | daveman: i didn't see any howto examples - but actually I gtg so please... a bit ... |
| 21:21.28 | sdakota | daveman: could you give me a link? fast? |
| 21:21.37 | ke6isf | never mind, found it. |
| 21:21.55 | Daveman | tldp ftw? |
| 21:21.56 | aeronadix | where is the servlet class in the api? how do I put it in my classpath |
| 21:22.35 | Daveman | sdakota, you need a reverse zone... - e.g. in-addr.arpa :) |
| 21:22.40 | Daveman | mmm... arp |
| 21:22.48 | grendal_prime | dev/sda1 not a valid block device |
| 21:22.49 | grendal_prime | grrrr |
| 21:22.52 | Kluster_v2 | _joey, the easy way is to get DSL, burn it on a cd and when you boot from it, it gives you the option to install it on a usb flash device.. The watch saved a few computers already.. and gave me access to others :) |
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| 21:23.22 | sdakota | daveman: you mean, ip4.ip3.ip2.ip1.in-addr.arpa? where the ip address is ip1.ip2.ip3.ip4.? |
| 21:23.27 | Yarou | i have this error |
| 21:23.31 | Yarou | ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:23.54 | ke6isf | Yarou: Sounds like you need to install tcl. |
| 21:24.08 | Yarou | libtcl8.4: /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so |
| 21:24.11 | Yarou | i already did |
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| 21:24.16 | sdakota | daveman where to add that? |
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| 21:24.37 | sdakota | I gtg :( |
| 21:24.38 | sdakota | bye |
| 21:24.42 | ke6isf | Yarou: What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 21:24.54 | Lochost | i have a problem with PCMCIA ethernet Card, when i up it "eth0 Could not reserve IRQ 0" |
| 21:25.04 | Daveman | :\ |
| 21:25.08 | Yarou | hmm |
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| 21:25.27 | Yarou | i know the Linux kernel version, not my Debian version, but I'm sure it's the latest... |
| 21:25.40 | ke6isf | Yarou: 'cat /etc/debian_version' |
| 21:26.10 | Yarou | 3.1 |
| 21:26.13 | mouzalas | where are this channel from? |
| 21:26.24 | ke6isf | mouzalas: eh? |
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| 21:27.51 | _joey | Kluster_v2: could you give me the url link to its website please |
| 21:28.19 | Kluster_v2 | I'll google DSL Damn Small Linux, just a sec |
| 21:28.20 | Yarou | hmm... |
| 21:28.38 | Kluster_v2 | _joey, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 21:29.05 | Kluster_v2 | see, google is your friend |
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| 21:30.08 | mouzalas | fuck you every one... |
| 21:30.09 | _joey | I am looking at this oe at the moment |
| 21:30.09 | paulswm | Yarou: How did you install eggdrop? The debian package, via apt-get? |
| 21:30.14 | _joey | http://flashlinux.org.uk/ |
| 21:30.14 | Kluster_v2 | for the first time here, I can actually be of some help to someone.. I'm usually the one asking questions |
| 21:30.17 | mouzalas | fuck you every one... |
| 21:30.17 | pureone | :o |
| 21:30.18 | mouzalas | fuck you every one... |
| 21:30.19 | Yarou | paulswm: i compiled it myself |
| 21:30.23 | _joey | it comes with more packages |
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| 21:30.33 | pureone | !ops mouzals spammer |
| 21:30.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: mouzals spammer |
| 21:30.37 | _joey | Kluster_v2: :) |
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| 21:30.55 | *** mode/#Debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 21:30.55 | cddesjar | mouzalas: wow so much anger |
| 21:30.56 | *** mode/#Debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 21:30.59 | red-bob | how does one implement wpa2 in linux? (wifi works i just need to get wpa2 going)? |
| 21:30.59 | Yarou | klined |
| 21:31.00 | Yarou | rofl |
| 21:31.08 | paulswm | !medal helix |
| 21:31.09 | helix | too late :) |
| 21:31.16 | pureone | :P |
| 21:31.17 | paulswm | Oh, sorry helix :) |
| 21:31.21 | Kluster_v2 | My watch is only 128Mb and I need space for my files, so I opted for the 50Mb DSL |
| 21:31.25 | _joey | red-bob: with wpa_supplicant perhaps |
| 21:31.34 | grendal_prime | jesus...this is crazy.. |
| 21:31.37 | Yarou | ftw ftw |
| 21:31.39 | Yarou | jjaja |
| 21:31.47 | grendal_prime | what device normally gets assigned to a usb device? |
| 21:31.57 | _joey | Kluster_v2 I have 1G flash memory |
| 21:31.57 | grendal_prime | memory stick |
| 21:32.21 | train` | grendal_prime, /dev/sda usually |
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| 21:32.34 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 21:32.48 | grendal_prime | hmmm well sda0 ? 1? |
| 21:32.50 | red-bob | _joey, thanx |
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| 21:33.06 | _joey | I am figurig I can install linux on my digital camera :) |
| 21:33.16 | cr3 | in bash, how can I echo the home directory? I tried $~ but that doesn't work |
| 21:33.21 | train` | grendal_prime, does it have any partitions on it? usually /dev/sda1, but please, do a fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 21:33.23 | grendal_prime | and lsof... gives me soooo much information |
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| 21:33.34 | hent | it was sda1 on my vaio i believe grendal_prime |
| 21:33.44 | grendal_prime | ya yes there are things on it |
| 21:33.50 | grendal_prime | i can read it on other machines |
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| 21:34.02 | train` | cr3, just ~ |
| 21:34.02 | benoit | hi |
| 21:34.05 | grendal_prime | i just done have the right fstab entry i believe |
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| 21:34.18 | hent | grendal_prime what fs is on it? |
| 21:34.18 | _joey | no, it's better to have linux installed onusb memory stick , it should work faster than those cd/dvd based distros |
| 21:34.25 | benoit | is there someone who use a hp photosmart 2610 ?? and have time to help to config it ? |
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| 21:34.29 | cheal | cr3: ~ ? |
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| 21:34.35 | cr3 | I'll try, brb |
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| 21:34.55 | grendal_prime | vfat i believe |
| 21:35.00 | PhoenixMan | I'm receiving this error in my daily routines whenever I install stuff for instance: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 21:35.19 | PhoenixMan | It started ever since I installed webmin, a remote administration tool |
| 21:35.32 | PhoenixMan | How do I fix this? |
| 21:35.33 | hent | grendal_prime: i wasn't able to mount mine as vfat, till i formated it once on my linux box with vfat system, i don't know much about it, so don't really know why |
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| 21:36.01 | Mark62756 | 'lo everyone :) |
| 21:36.22 | Yarou | hi |
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| 21:36.46 | ick | antgel: Active? |
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| 21:36.53 | ick | valdyn: Active? |
| 21:36.54 | Mark62756 | was wonder how to change the boot order of some apps, does anyone know? |
| 21:37.23 | _joey | when usb came out so many *nix bashed it but look at it now. Via usb you can connect so may devices to your computer |
| 21:37.29 | grendal_prime | hent |
| 21:37.33 | grendal_prime | it comes back nothing |
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| 21:37.58 | Yarou | bahhhh |
| 21:38.01 | Yarou | fuck this |
| 21:38.15 | Yarou | dependency time! |
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| 21:38.28 | grendal_prime | Unable to open /dev/sda1 |
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| 21:40.29 | cheal | PhoenixMan: can you show the output of # debconf-show locales;locale; ? |
| 21:40.55 | embrik | This is mysterious, suddenly I can't install my Hp deskjet |
| 21:41.18 | embrik | I've just lost contact |
| 21:41.19 | ick | Debian Stable simply just not installs on my system. It is switching between console charsets all the time. |
| 21:41.22 | hent | grendal_prime, i will connect my laptop quickly, and see what settings i have on it, brb |
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| 21:41.57 | Mark62756 | oopsi... accedently hit the x |
| 21:41.58 | ick | It says in my native language:"Configuring base config" on the console. |
| 21:42.07 | grendal_prime | thanks man |
| 21:42.25 | embrik | Is it possible to clear the connetion on USB #1 to the printer? |
| 21:42.26 | Mark62756 | so yeah, i need to know how to change the boot order of some apps in debian. |
| 21:42.32 | Mark62756 | anyone know? |
| 21:42.35 | ick | And before that it says "There was a problem in configuring one or more of the packlages". |
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| 21:44.45 | hent | grendal_prime, is it ok if i pm you? don't bother these ppl with sony nonsense :P |
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| 21:44.58 | grendal_prime | sure |
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| 21:45.34 | cheal | Mark62756: $ pager /etc/init.d/README |
| 21:45.39 | Mark62756 | ah! |
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| 21:45.41 | Yarou | bahhh |
| 21:45.49 | Mark62756 | thanks cheal all i needed :) |
| 21:46.00 | Tchiak | hmm |
| 21:46.01 | Yarou | i can't use eggdrop |
| 21:46.25 | Yarou | i compiled at least 8 times, TCL included |
| 21:46.50 | pureone | it must give some errors |
| 21:46.57 | nixie | why is it that, when i add a logged-in user to a group, that user has to log out and in again before the group change is active? is there any other way? |
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| 21:47.08 | paulswm | Yarou: So use the debian package |
| 21:47.19 | Yarou | nooo |
| 21:47.28 | Yarou | not the debian package |
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| 21:47.48 | Yarou | it claims it can't find the TCL shared library, yet there it is! |
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| 21:48.05 | Yarou | fucking TCL, no wonder it's such a shit language |
| 21:48.05 | bucky | Yarou: in tcl8.4-dev |
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| 21:48.37 | pureone | i belive all you need to do is link the tcllib.so.0 to tcllib.so.1 or something like that |
| 21:48.49 | paulswm | Yarou: Perhaps it's not looking in /usr/local/lib for the library |
| 21:49.02 | bucky | he just need to install the headers to build something against it |
| 21:49.02 | Yarou | usr/lib/tcl8.4 /usr/local/lib/tcl8.4 |
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| 21:53.12 | kurumin | alguem fala portugues |
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| 21:53.35 | fbi | !tell kurumin about br |
| 21:53.56 | paulswm | Heh fbi, you beat me to it: !tell kurumin about.... |
| 21:54.05 | fbi | i'm typing with one hand too! |
| 21:54.15 | fbi | i'm chatting with my supermodel girlfriend in prague. |
| 21:54.20 | Yarou | paulswm: |
| 21:54.28 | resiak | !tell kurumin -about kurumin |
| 21:54.29 | Yarou | if i use the shared lib in /usr/local/lib |
| 21:54.33 | Yarou | i get this: |
| 21:54.34 | Yarou | Your Tcl version is much too old for Eggdrop to use. |
| 21:54.38 | paulswm | !prize fbi |
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| 21:54.57 | resiak | !tell Yarou -about enter |
| 21:55.17 | Eulex | !hump fbi |
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| 21:55.27 | fbi | oooeer. |
| 21:55.46 | paulswm | Yarou: If you're not going to use the debian package, I guess you're pretty much on your own, I don't see people clamoring to help :) |
| 21:55.49 | Yarou | if i use /usr/lib/tcl8.4.so, ./eggdrop won't work. |
| 21:55.49 | ick | Debian quality seems higher 1.5 years ago, since then everything just worked. |
| 21:55.52 | Yarou | lol |
| 21:55.57 | Yarou | well |
| 21:55.58 | Yarou | hm, |
| 21:56.05 | ick | Uh, make that lower |
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| 21:56.15 | riddlebox | does anyone use asterisk? |
| 21:56.18 | fbi | ick: smoke some more crack. |
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| 21:56.36 | fbi | Debian has done nothing but improve. |
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| 21:57.07 | ick | fbi: I am a little frustrated about this garbage. It is "switching between consolemap" until the end of the universe... |
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| 21:57.44 | ick | Probably somebody else had the same problem. |
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| 21:58.06 | klarth | (debian-br) |
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| 21:59.49 | Yarou | bah fine |
| 21:59.56 | Yarou | i'll use that damned package. |
| 22:00.12 | lawnchair | does anyone know how to stop iptables from logging to the console |
| 22:00.14 | paulswm | Heh, he caved |
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| 22:00.53 | paulswm | Moral of the story: know what you're doing when compiling stuff, I guess |
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| 22:01.04 | A3K | anyone know a good Microsoft Access compatible database for debian? |
| 22:01.14 | bit0 | lawnchair, i don't know.... interesting question |
| 22:01.19 | lawnchair | heh |
| 22:01.28 | lawnchair | i have so many incomign connections it freezes the box |
| 22:01.38 | lawnchair | there must be something else going on... |
| 22:02.04 | paulswm | A3K: You mean you want it to be able to read Access database files? Or what do you mean by compatible? |
| 22:02.13 | fbi | lawnchair: i know how to kill console messages _completely_ |
| 22:02.21 | fbi | is that what you want to do? |
| 22:02.23 | lawnchair | i did dmesg -n5 |
| 22:02.29 | lawnchair | but hwen i type dmesg i still see iptable msgs |
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| 22:04.44 | resiak | thanks, paulswm |
| 22:04.55 | paulswm | Thanks a lot, resiak |
| 22:04.58 | paulswm | :> |
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| 22:05.36 | resiak | paulswm: Oh, and thanks. ;) |
| 22:05.48 | paulswm | resiak: You're wlecome |
| 22:05.56 | paulswm | resiak: Thanks for being so kind |
| 22:06.24 | Yarou | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of eggdrop: <- this is what i get when i use the Debian package. |
| 22:06.24 | dpkg | Yarou: that's too long |
| 22:06.39 | resiak | Yarou: What breed of Debian are you using=? |
| 22:06.48 | paulswm | resiak: 3.1 IIRC |
| 22:06.50 | cddesjar | Yarou: don't treat dpkg like that |
| 22:07.08 | cddesjar | !gentoosmite cddesjar |
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| 22:07.45 | paulswm | Yarou: If you've been installing packages from outside your debian distro, you may run into stuff like that if you haven't been supplying dependencies via dummy packages |
| 22:08.04 | ghnsxns | hello. i use the monitor V7 S98S and i try to get a higher refresh rate then 60Hz. i should have set the right horizontal an vertical refresh rates (and also many other) and i used modelines to solve my problem but the refresh rate always remaind at 60 Hz. i hope someone has an idea what could be left to do. |
| 22:08.31 | ick | paulswm: I have reinstalled Debian Stable the exact same way, and again I can't complete the installation. |
| 22:08.45 | Eulex | !drxx ghnsxns |
| 22:08.45 | dpkg | ghnsxns: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:08.54 | Eulex | ghnsxns, and make sure you set the right one |
| 22:08.55 | Eulex | s |
| 22:09.10 | Yarou | yay |
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| 22:09.15 | paulswm | ick: I'm not aware of your problem, must have missed it, I've been in and out |
| 22:09.27 | paulswm | !prise cddesjar |
| 22:09.31 | paulswm | :D |
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| 22:09.46 | fbi | was he attached to it? |
| 22:09.52 | ick | paulswm: You interrupted a conversation today, remember? |
| 22:09.53 | A3K | paulswm: sorry I am multitasking. I have a database that I need access to. By compatible, I mead it will format and execute. |
| 22:09.57 | paulswm | fbi: Well he isn't now :P |
| 22:10.07 | A3K | give me all my menus and buttons and such |
| 22:10.09 | Yarou | hmm |
| 22:10.14 | Yarou | now i need to get a conf file |
| 22:10.22 | fbi | so you're like, edward scissorhands, but you have keyboardhands. |
| 22:10.52 | paulswm | ick: No, I don't remember, memory failing with age, lemme check back |
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| 22:11.30 | paulswm | A3K: I don't think so, I suppose you could always run Access via wine if it'll support it |
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| 22:12.06 | A3K | there is a frontend for the database that I need to use... maybe wine will run it. |
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| 22:12.10 | dav___ | can anyone help with a package dependency problem, i've updated to the latest unstable and all the deps for sasl2-bin are broken |
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| 22:12.42 | Eulex | dav___, then they are broken. |
| 22:12.51 | Eulex | dav___, checked the bts? |
| 22:13.12 | Yarou | lol |
| 22:13.34 | bucky | !lol |
| 22:13.34 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 22:13.37 | Eulex | Yarou, there's not much you can do against broken dependencies |
| 22:13.38 | dav___ | bts? |
| 22:13.48 | Eulex | !btssmite dav___ |
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| 22:14.03 | Yarou | i had to get another package |
| 22:14.05 | paulswm | ick: *shrug* I went back four hours and I don't see any conversation that I interrupted |
| 22:14.09 | Yarou | "eggdrop-data" |
| 22:14.18 | Yarou | noobsauce |
| 22:14.19 | Yarou | oh well |
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| 22:15.21 | dav___ | ok, rephrasing. how do i remove a dependency from a package? |
| 22:15.35 | caphuso | you don't |
| 22:15.43 | caphuso | you also don |
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| 22:15.50 | caphuso | 't run unstable if you're that clueless |
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| 22:16.07 | dav___ | i run unstable because stable is hopelessly behind |
| 22:16.15 | Eulex | dav___, if you really have to ask, you don't. but if you really really know what you're doing, you need to hack the .deb. and I'm not telling you how. |
| 22:16.19 | caphuso | dav___: poor boy. have a cookie |
| 22:16.22 | Eulex | dav___, then run testing. |
| 22:16.25 | ick | <paulswm> |
| 22:16.25 | ick | ick: nm, I came in on the middle of a conversation, sorry |
| 22:16.26 | ick | 12:06:53 |
| 22:16.33 | ick | paulswm: There it is. |
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| 22:17.50 | dav___ | wow you'd expect #debian to not be full of elitest peons |
| 22:17.59 | dav___ | get more help from #freebsd heh |
| 22:18.05 | paulswm | ick: I said something about /home and /usr on different fs's, hardly interrupting, after all this is a public channel. Then I realized that you guys may have been talking about it already, so I made that remark |
| 22:18.20 | caphuso | dav___: you'd also expect people to be able to read |
| 22:18.34 | cddesjar | dav___, what's your problem? what's wrong with sarge...have you heard of backports? or apt-listbugs |
| 22:18.45 | paulswm | dav___: you're trolling, please don't |
| 22:18.52 | dondelelcaro | dav___: you don't remove dependencies from packages. What exactly is the problem? |
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| 22:19.23 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 22:19.23 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 22:19.32 | tarzeau | dav___: you could also try debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 22:19.37 | Eulex | dav___, in summary: don't run unstable if you don't have good knowledge on how to administer debian boxes when things break. |
| 22:19.44 | streuner | g |
| 22:19.44 | caphuso | tarzeau: which doesn't help at all |
| 22:19.47 | streuner | hm |
| 22:19.57 | tarzeau | caphuso: true, but you know when he's a freebsd honk |
| 22:20.09 | caphuso | tarzeau: he doesn't have a problem with the kernel |
| 22:20.16 | ick | paulswm: No, I don't think you did anything wrong. I just wanted to say that I tried reinstalling it two times, but Debian just doesn't want to be installed. |
| 22:20.16 | tarzeau | caphuso: i know |
| 22:20.56 | paulswm | ick: What's the problem? It's a while since I've done a fresh install |
| 22:21.20 | ick | paulswm: It's "switching between console keymaps". |
| 22:21.36 | ick | paulswm: In a loop, together with "configuring the base system". |
| 22:22.05 | paulswm | ick: Ah. Then that is already out of my experience, I'm sorry |
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| 22:22.27 | ick | paulswm: I will try one last time. Thanks, anyway. |
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| 22:22.53 | bucky | ick: did you check your md5sums on your iso? |
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| 22:23.50 | vinay | is k3b not readily available in etch? |
| 22:24.07 | streuner | vinay: what does pdo say? |
| 22:24.14 | paulswm | vinay: I believe that it's been temporarily removed |
| 22:24.17 | Eulex | vinay, no |
| 22:24.18 | bucky | nope.. not readily available |
| 22:24.23 | Eulex | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 22:24.23 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
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| 22:24.33 | Norbert | hi, anyone here good at playing "abuse"? |
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| 22:24.45 | Norbert | I'm stuck at level 15 |
| 22:24.49 | paulswm | !abuse Norbert |
| 22:24.49 | dpkg | Norbert: Shut your festering gob, you tit! |
| 22:24.54 | paulswm | :D |
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| 22:24.56 | Yagi | hi |
| 22:25.04 | vinay | gracias! :-) |
| 22:25.16 | Diazepam | nice trolling Norbert |
| 22:25.31 | dav___ | is this as simple as editing /var/lib/apt/lists/blahblah-Packagges? |
| 22:25.47 | Norbert | Diazepam: ? |
| 22:25.50 | ac3 | how can i exclude /proc and /tmp from being transferred while /var/tmp and eg /home/test/proc is. (rsync -az -e ssh host:/ /backup/) I don´t completely understand --exclude= |
| 22:26.00 | ick | bucky: I used the CD option for verifying. |
| 22:26.01 | ke6isf | Norbert: Your type really makes me puke! |
| 22:26.14 | riddlebox | does anyone run asterisk and use asterisk-gtk-console? |
| 22:26.17 | Norbert | ke6isf: my 'type'? |
| 22:26.22 | ick | bucky: Thus I didn't manually check. |
| 22:26.28 | bucky | ick: is it not finding your hard drive? |
| 22:26.43 | ke6isf | Norbert: You don't know anything about Monty Python, do you? |
| 22:26.45 | greywolfe | hi, I'm looking for help with mixing ide & scsi on a bootable raid1, anyone? |
| 22:26.52 | Norbert | ke6isf: they bore me |
| 22:26.57 | paulswm | Norbert: It's a reference to Monty Python, you did ask if anyone was any good at playing abuse, that's a red rag to a bull here :) |
| 22:27.07 | ick | bucky: It writes to my harddrive, so I assume it can find it. |
| 22:27.10 | ke6isf | Norbert: Ah, then you'll never understand the lines. |
| 22:27.41 | tarzeau | Diazepam: got Diazepam? |
| 22:27.46 | ke6isf | Norbert: Now go away or we'll taunt you a second time! |
| 22:27.59 | bucky | ick: which installer are you using? i tried the etch installer and it couldn't find any repositories |
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| 22:28.34 | Diazepam | tarzeau: Love a valium milkshake now and then |
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| 22:28.43 | Diazepam | =) |
| 22:28.53 | bassMonkey | how does it work if a new kernel is released to testing (i'm running it) and I apt-get upgrade, how does it work? The old kernel can't be overwritten just like that right? |
| 22:29.17 | tarzeau | Diazepam: sorry for the query |
| 22:29.37 | tarzeau | bassMonkey: right |
| 22:30.02 | Diazepam | tarzeau: no probs |
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| 22:30.24 | fatal | bassMonkey: you are asked to reboot ASAP, since loading the new modules (which can be done dynamically on a hotplug event) into to old kernel is bad.... but a reboot isn't forced. |
| 22:30.25 | edrin | hi |
| 22:30.34 | Eulex | vinay, de nada |
| 22:30.51 | sifi | how can I rename all filenames that end with the extension .foo to .bar, exclude the subdir:s? |
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| 22:31.13 | edrin | i have the feeling that my logitech mx700 mouse is more sensitive in windows in komparition to KDE. can this be? |
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| 22:31.42 | bassMonkey | edrin: well, you can adjust the sensitivity... |
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| 22:32.42 | edrin | bassMonkey: well, speed is ok but sometimes the pointer is jumping 0,5 cm or so.. |
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| 22:33.03 | fatal | sifi: something like this would probably work: for f in $(find . -type f --maxdepth 1 -name '*.foo'); do mv $f $(echo $f | sed -e 's/foo$/bar/'); done |
| 22:33.10 | fatal | sifi: maybee it should be maxdepth 0.... |
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| 22:37.05 | pdani_ | hi |
| 22:37.10 | pdani_ | hi |
| 22:37.11 | cddesjar | hi |
| 22:37.24 | JPW | hi |
| 22:37.43 | Yagi | hi |
| 22:37.43 | cddesjar | if you are waiting for 762 more people and bots to say hi you're probably waiting a long time |
| 22:38.05 | cbr | hi |
| 22:38.16 | Yagi | HI^762 |
| 22:38.21 | cddesjar | 760 more to go |
| 22:38.23 | tarzeau | hi |
| 22:38.27 | cddesjar | 759 |
| 22:38.31 | findme | hi |
| 22:38.32 | madradrone | hmm. "formail -s procmail < inbox" just seems to hand without doing anything. any ideas? |
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| 22:39.24 | madradrone | hang even |
| 22:39.51 | pdani_ | i made a dist-upgrade on an amd64 machine, and i got error messages that ia32-libs tried to overwrite some files from ia32-libs-dev and vice versa |
| 22:41.04 | kingsley | madradrone: Perhaps you could diagnose why it's hanging bt re-running it with strace. |
| 22:41.22 | kingsley | s/bt/by/ |
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| 22:42.27 | resiak | pdani_: Did you check the BTS? #debian-amd64 may be more helpful than we are |
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| 22:43.12 | madradrone | kingsley: i'm tailing the strace output... looks like its doing something, although i see a lot of "illegal seek" lines |
| 22:43.34 | pdani_ | broven: /join #debian-amd64 |
| 22:43.39 | pdani_ | ehh :) |
| 22:43.40 | pdani_ | sorry |
| 22:43.56 | tarzeau | someone knows this game? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bubnbros/bubtoomuch2full.png |
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| 22:44.10 | blondie | tarzeau: that's not a question |
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| 22:44.35 | madradrone | oh how cute! |
| 22:44.36 | cddesjar | is that dig dug? |
| 22:44.57 | edrin | do you think it is a good idea to install OpenOffice 2.0 from http://www.backports.org/pending/openoffice.org/ in debian testing?? |
| 22:45.01 | zinx | it's bubble bobble |
| 22:45.16 | sifi | Can anyone give me a good url for working with -filename, -text manipulation? |
| 22:45.23 | zinx | except.. crazy :/ |
| 22:45.33 | tarzeau | zinx: 10 players over network ;) sooo crazy funny |
| 22:45.34 | cddesjar | zinx: can you get that for linux? |
| 22:45.35 | madradrone | wow is dpkg becoming sentient? |
| 22:45.39 | tarzeau | cddesjar: sure |
| 22:45.48 | tarzeau | http://bub-n-bros.sf.net #bub-n-bros |
| 22:45.50 | cddesjar | it looks like fun |
| 22:45.50 | greywolfe | sarge, fresh install, 2.4 kernels, software raid1 with ide and scsi, scsi drive is not being added to the array on boot (boot and root are on seperate raid1). Array seems to be fine when I hotadd after boot. |
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| 22:46.00 | ick | bucky: Sarge |
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| 22:46.46 | tarzeau | cddesjar: trust me it is. and addictive (with more than 300 levels ;) |
| 22:46.47 | bucky | ick: what kind of nic do you have? |
| 22:46.50 | ick | bucky: I didn't select any "tasks" now, and it congratiolates me for completing the installation. |
| 22:47.05 | tarzeau | cddesjar: i'm tempted to start a server, you'd join? |
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| 22:47.19 | ick | bucky: Irrelevant, I did a Debian install two years ago with the exact same hardware. |
| 22:47.28 | bucky | ick: did you intsall grub to the mbr? |
| 22:47.28 | tarzeau | takatumi: there? |
| 22:47.35 | ick | bucky: yes |
| 22:48.13 | cddesjar | tarzeau: can you get if from apt-get? |
| 22:48.32 | cddesjar | tarzeau: i might play a few rounds |
| 22:48.34 | ick | bucky: The error only shows up when I select Desktop as task or Printserver. |
| 22:48.36 | tarzeau | cddesjar: not yet, panthera is working on it |
| 22:48.56 | ick | bucky: I am now trying whether I can install an X-server. |
| 22:48.57 | bucky | ping yahoo.com |
| 22:48.59 | ick | !X |
| 22:49.21 | aphexer | i'm creating a .deb package but I need to ask the user something, I already went throught the maintainers guide, but couldn't find it there. Anyone knows how to do this(=user interaction during install) or where I can find it? |
| 22:49.51 | pdani_ | hm |
| 22:50.05 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ok i'm d/l it |
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| 22:50.39 | tarzeau | cddesjar: join th egame with 3 players... |
| 22:50.55 | cddesjar | tarzeau, ok |
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| 22:51.49 | pdani_ | i would like to write raw data (without filesystem) to a cd, and i would like to write it multiple times. how can i do it, and then how can i get back my raw data? |
| 22:52.28 | pdani_ | in case of cdrecord -nofix, i can't read back the tracks, because there's no toc on the disc |
| 22:52.30 | David|Lappy | dd if=foo of=myimage.img |
| 22:52.40 | David|Lappy | just dd it off again? |
| 22:52.50 | David|Lappy | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myfile.img |
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| 22:53.38 | pdani_ | David|Lappy: i write a bunch of data. then i write another bunch of data. how can i get back the second bunch of data? |
| 22:53.54 | David|Lappy | do you know what size each block of data is? |
| 22:53.58 | pdani_ | how can i determine the beginning of data? |
| 22:54.13 | David|Lappy | you can specify the size of data to read off? |
| 22:54.37 | pdani_ | yes |
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| 22:55.07 | pdani_ | i put a 4-byte number at the beginning of each block, which is the size of the data |
| 22:55.44 | cddesjar | tarzeau, hmm..icna't see me |
| 22:56.00 | David|Lappy | hmmm |
| 22:56.01 | David|Lappy | Not sure. |
| 22:56.02 | pdani_ | i tried to write some data with cdrecord, and when a dd-ed it back, there was some pad or sth at the beginning |
| 22:56.04 | David|Lappy | getting complicated |
| 22:56.11 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you select a dragon in the bottom with left mouse click? |
| 22:56.14 | David|Lappy | cant you say no padding? |
| 22:57.14 | pdani_ | i don't really know what was that extra-data, but i gave a -nopad to cdrecord |
| 22:57.40 | cddesjar | he he...i can't move |
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| 22:58.01 | dondelelcaro | !marillat |
| 22:58.01 | dpkg | i heard marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 22:58.17 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you da gray dragon? |
| 22:58.28 | cddesjar | tarzeau, i think so |
| 22:58.40 | tarzeau | cddesjar: must make bubbles |
| 22:58.44 | tarzeau | cddesjar: and catch fruits! |
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| 22:58.52 | dondelelcaro | antgel: just fixed the bug that was causing the marillat factoid to ahve issues. |
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| 23:00.13 | cddesjar | man do i suck |
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| 23:00.45 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you got more points than i |
| 23:01.02 | cddesjar | tarzeau, it's cause i can't move |
| 23:01.06 | cddesjar | and i can't die |
| 23:01.23 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you selected the wrong keys ? |
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| 23:01.33 | cddesjar | tarzeau, i have no idea |
| 23:01.36 | tarzeau | cddesjar: click the dragon again with mouse on bottom, pick it again and define the keys right |
| 23:01.48 | andyzweb | hey |
| 23:01.49 | tarzeau | cddesjar: on dragon selection it shows little cute animations for the keys, left, right, jump, bubble |
| 23:01.58 | cddesjar | ok |
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| 23:04.24 | cddesjar | i have really bad lag |
| 23:04.29 | David|Lappy | How do I stop DHCPCd overwriting /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 23:05.38 | tarzeau | cddesjar: same here, the server is not connected well |
| 23:07.05 | tarzeau | cddesjar: haha too much monsters, it's like bigroom in nethack |
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| 23:07.45 | dondelelcaro | David|Lappy: use resolvconf, like you should be. |
| 23:08.12 | David|Lappy | resolvconf? |
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| 23:08.45 | dondelelcaro | David|Lappy: yes. apt-get install resolvconf; add entries for dns-namservers and dns-search to your /etc/network/interfaces file as appropriate. Be happy. |
| 23:08.56 | David|Lappy | Ta |
| 23:09.02 | tarzeau | cddesjar: up to three players on the one local keyboard.... |
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| 23:10.32 | cddesjar | this lag is too much |
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| 23:11.08 | ron_ | I have a file with a bunch of packages I have installed, I now did dpkg --set-selection, and indeed they are selected. |
| 23:11.15 | ron_ | Now, I just want to install them. |
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| 23:12.17 | ron_ | Never mind. |
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| 23:12.42 | andyzweb | can i be heard |
| 23:13.44 | amphi | andyzweb: you have the floor |
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| 23:14.32 | cddesjar | tarzeau, i'm going to have to quit the lag is too much...i can't play |
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| 23:14.42 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 23:14.47 | tarzeau | cddesjar: oki, we play another time, when i run a server, k? |
| 23:14.54 | cddesjar | ok |
| 23:15.04 | amorphix | can anyone tell me how to do a vi command to strip out \ characters from a file? |
| 23:15.08 | andyzweb | ok i was woundering, how do i change what server's my apt-get uses to download packages from? |
| 23:15.25 | blondie | amorphix: s/\\//g ? |
| 23:15.25 | dondelelcaro | andyzweb: change your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:15.26 | blondie | maybe |
| 23:15.27 | SerajewelKS | andyzweb: apt-config |
| 23:15.30 | amorphix | blondie thanks |
| 23:15.33 | amphi | andyzweb: apt-setup |
| 23:15.43 | SerajewelKS | andyzweb: yeah, apt-setup |
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| 23:16.03 | urelement | how to find gcc version used to compile a linux kernel? |
| 23:16.04 | Error_X | Is there a VPN program for Linux to connect to a windows based VPN server? |
| 23:16.13 | andyzweb | ok thanks |
| 23:16.19 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: yes, pptp |
| 23:16.31 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: you'll need the mppe patch to the kernel, though. |
| 23:16.36 | bbrazil | urelement: cat /proc/version |
| 23:16.38 | Error_X | okey, thanks |
| 23:16.45 | blondie | amorphix: well that works for the current line anyway |
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| 23:16.57 | urelement | bbrazil: thanks! |
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| 23:17.15 | amorphix | i see |
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| 23:18.14 | dav___ | hah |
| 23:18.18 | dav___ | that was easy |
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| 23:18.23 | zOap | is there any way to disable the tap function on my touchpad mouse? |
| 23:19.01 | SerajewelKS | zOap: hit it with a hammer |
| 23:19.25 | zOap | SerajewelKS, that's very constructive |
| 23:19.35 | blondie | it would work though, wouldn't it? |
| 23:20.04 | zOap | it might |
| 23:20.24 | SerajewelKS | zOap: but on a more serious note, it probably has to do with the kernel module |
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| 23:20.45 | zOap | i hate touchpads. where did those nice pointer devices go? |
| 23:20.50 | SerajewelKS | zOap: if the kernel sees it as a standard PS/2 or USB mouse then i don't think there's much you can do besides look for a specialised driver |
| 23:20.53 | NetGrunt | Does anyone know how can I prevent my debian sarge xwindows to automatically copy to clipboard everything I select with the mouse ? |
| 23:20.54 | zOap | SerajewelKS, ok |
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| 23:20.59 | jack-black | How are fonts handled in linux? |
| 23:21.04 | jack-black | is it with a list? |
| 23:21.09 | SerajewelKS | zOap: you might be able to change it in the X config too, though i doubt that |
| 23:21.11 | tarzeau | jack-black: you mean in X? |
| 23:21.17 | zOap | SerajewelKS, thanks, I'll have a look at it |
| 23:21.17 | tarzeau | jack-black: in console? |
| 23:21.18 | jack-black | yes |
| 23:21.21 | tarzeau | jack-black: in GNUstep? |
| 23:21.27 | SerajewelKS | zOap: but if all else fails, the hammer will work =) |
| 23:21.36 | zOap | SerajewelKS, yeah, couldn't find anything in |
| 23:21.37 | SerajewelKS | zOap: of course it will disable a lot of other things too |
| 23:21.57 | jack-black | when you start an office program, |
| 23:21.58 | zOap | yeah, like my RAM which is right beneath it:) |
| 23:21.59 | andyzweb | ok i apparently dont have soundcore.o installed into my kernel is there a quick way to pop it in there? or how do i install the latest kernel image? |
| 23:22.17 | SerajewelKS | zOap: yeah you might want to keep that enabled |
| 23:22.17 | tarzeau | jack-black: which office program? |
| 23:22.24 | jack-black | openoffice |
| 23:22.28 | jack-black | writer |
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| 23:22.47 | cddesjar | tarzeau, that is a pretty fun game |
| 23:22.55 | cddesjar | tarzeau, i played it on my own for a bit |
| 23:23.06 | tarzeau | cddesjar: yep it's more fun, with more dragons |
| 23:23.13 | jack-black | basically, i installed a new font, but it doesn't come up.... so i am how does linux handle them, |
| 23:23.21 | cddesjar | tarzeau, i bet |
| 23:23.26 | tarzeau | jack-black: how did you install it? |
| 23:23.28 | jack-black | like macs have a font.list file that |
| 23:23.35 | jack-black | aptget install font |
| 23:23.40 | tarzeau | jack-black: no just put it into /usr/share/fonts |
| 23:23.47 | jack-black | ok |
| 23:23.48 | tarzeau | jack-black: that's even better w/ apt-get |
| 23:23.50 | jack-black | thanks |
| 23:23.52 | cheal | andyzweb: why do you want that file? |
| 23:23.53 | tarzeau | jack-black: which font was that? |
| 23:24.00 | jack-black | telugu font |
| 23:24.02 | tarzeau | jack-black: not all fonts work for all software |
| 23:24.09 | tarzeau | jack-black: some are for latex only for example |
| 23:24.26 | andyzweb | well im looking to get some sound out of my machine, apparently my sound card isnt configured correctly... |
| 23:24.30 | jack-black | it is a ttf font |
| 23:24.53 | andyzweb | can i accually be heard in the public chat? |
| 23:25.01 | bucky | !test |
| 23:25.01 | dpkg | No, bucky, you're not online any more. |
| 23:25.05 | jack-black | in theory it should work in most everything |
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| 23:25.37 | Roey | hi |
| 23:25.44 | jack-black | hi Roey |
| 23:25.51 | Roey | /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/mdstat are empty for me; why is this?? |
| 23:25.57 | cheal | andyzweb: which public chat? |
| 23:25.59 | Roey | hey jack, bucky |
| 23:26.02 | Roey | cheal |
| 23:26.11 | Roey | and tarzeau |
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| 23:26.29 | cheal | andyzweb: and what did you want to do with that file? |
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| 23:27.16 | cheal | andyzweb: also which kernel do you have? |
| 23:27.48 | andyzweb | how do i look up which kernel i have? |
| 23:27.57 | amphi | andyzweb: uname -r |
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| 23:29.40 | andyzweb | 2.6.12 is the installed version |
| 23:30.01 | cheal | andyzweb: so what did you want to do with that file? |
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| 23:30.13 | runedude3 | hello.. i have a question |
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| 23:30.51 | runedude3 | i'm a freebsd user right now.. i have several partitions.. i have / and /home and /usr.. i want to keep /home, but use debian with the current /home, and just get rid of / and /usr and make those one. is that possible, without formatting |
| 23:30.54 | runedude3 | plus /home is UFS |
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| 23:32.15 | runedude3 | anyone? |
| 23:32.20 | Ronin | patience runedude3 |
| 23:32.31 | runedude3 | sorry, its just.. an unusual quiet in here today |
| 23:32.42 | andyzweb | ok it is sending me an error message when i try to use soundcardconfig it goes "you dont seem to be running a kernel with modular support enabled (soundcore.o was not found in the search path) |
| 23:33.00 | andyzweb | !voice |
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| 23:34.17 | resiak | runedude3: You don't get an answer in 2 minutes, and you're already getting impatient? |
| 23:34.49 | runedude3 | nah, i just didnt see any chat at all.. usually its very active in here |
| 23:34.50 | andyzweb | ok do i have +v now |
| 23:35.39 | Ronin | why would you want/need it andyzweb |
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| 23:36.13 | Ronin | and no you dont by the way |
| 23:36.13 | kiko | hi! |
| 23:36.16 | andyzweb | well i was just woundering thats all |
| 23:36.19 | cheal | andyzweb: what's soundcardconfig? |
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| 23:36.41 | resiak | runedude3: man mount suggests that Linux can mount UFS partitions, so you're probably okay. If / and /usr are adjacent, you should be able to kill those partitions and make one new, big one. If they're not, you can use LVM to use them as a single contiginous volume --- the installer supports setting this up. But it should be _possible_ to do what you wan. |
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| 23:37.01 | runedude3 | resiak - so, the debian installer will just not touch /home ? |
| 23:37.04 | kiko | does somebody know installing vmware? |
| 23:37.27 | andyzweb | its really called sndconfig sorry |
| 23:37.36 | runedude3 | also, will it have read/write support, if i mount it under debian? |
| 23:37.40 | resiak | runedude3: Not unless you tell it to. It may not be able to set it up during install --- if not, you can just not touch it, and manually edit fstab later. You might also have problems with userids matching up. |
| 23:37.45 | resiak | runedude3: I don't know. Why not google it? |
| 23:38.07 | amphi | andyzweb: you probably want to use alsaconf |
| 23:38.14 | runedude3 | hm |
| 23:38.14 | kiko | ask to mr google |
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| 23:38.18 | kiko | :D |
| 23:38.30 | runedude3 | well im just gonna put them into a backup folder.. then when a user gets added again, then they will get their files |
| 23:38.41 | resiak | runedude3: Looks like it's read-only |
| 23:38.47 | runedude3 | Hmm.. I need write |
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| 23:38.51 | resiak | runedude3: It'd be much better to just back up /home and start from scratch |
| 23:38.54 | andyzweb | ok ill try that |
| 23:39.06 | pdani_ | 3 |
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| 23:39.10 | cheal | andyzweb: and what's sndconfig? |
| 23:39.24 | runedude3 | resiak - i have no where to back it up to.. im out of space on other drives |
| 23:39.30 | amphi | cheal: an ancient (RH?) curses oss config tool |
| 23:39.30 | kiko | does somebody works in image processing systems? |
| 23:39.36 | resiak | runedude3: You mean you don't keep regular backups anyway? |
| 23:39.43 | kiko | i have a question |
| 23:39.51 | kingsley | cheal: man sndconfig |
| 23:40.00 | resiak | !tell kiko -about ask |
| 23:40.13 | runedude3 | resiak - nope |
| 23:40.16 | runedude3 | its a home box anyways |
| 23:40.23 | resiak | runedude3: Spare hard disk? |
| 23:40.24 | cheal | kingsley: No manual entry for sndconfig |
| 23:40.29 | kiko | i'm trying to work with idl |
| 23:40.31 | resiak | runedude3: Steal one from a friend? |
| 23:40.39 | kiko | interactive data language |
| 23:40.41 | cheal | andyzweb: which release do you run? |
| 23:40.48 | kiko | does somebody know it? |
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| 23:40.57 | kiko | in debian |
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| 23:40.57 | kingsley | cheal: apt-get install sndconfig |
| 23:40.58 | eobanb | if i wanted to boot from /dev/hdd, what would be the root entry in grub? |
| 23:41.20 | runedude3 | resiak - hmm .. i got another idea |
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| 23:41.46 | cheal | kingsley: E: Package sndconfig has no installation candidate |
| 23:41.48 | sifi | how can I unset all variables in a script?' |
| 23:42.06 | cheal | bbl |
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| 23:42.20 | PhoenixMan | How do I send a message to all or some of my users? |
| 23:42.22 | Docteh | eobanb, 1,1? 3,x? partitions start at zero i know that :) |
| 23:42.25 | resiak | PhoenixMan: wall |
| 23:42.29 | resiak | PhoenixMan: or abuse mail |
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| 23:43.27 | kingsley | PhoenixMan: man wall |
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| 23:43.40 | kiko | mr google |
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| 23:44.05 | kiko | hi! |
| 23:44.10 | kiko | bye! |
| 23:44.41 | greywolfe | scsi module is being loaded after raid is initialized, how can I fix this? |
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| 23:45.07 | grunx | hi |
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| 23:46.43 | SimonRaven | greywolfe: have scsi come first... /etc/modules |
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| 23:47.54 | andyzweb | sweet its working |
| 23:47.56 | phogg | When trying to ssh to my box I get "System bootup in progress - please wait" - but I get this even when I ssh localhost, and I am definitely not booting. WTF? |
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| 23:48.24 | wang | OK lets get some printer sharing stuff done ! |
| 23:48.28 | wang | =D |
| 23:48.37 | greywolfe | SimonRaven: /etc/modules shows ide-cd ide-detect ide-disk psmouse, thats all. dmesg clearly shows my scsi drive is found after ide and md init. not sure whats going on. |
| 23:49.29 | kingsley | phogg: Have you googled for the error message? |
| 23:49.38 | phogg | Whoa. runlevel unknown |
| 23:49.51 | SimonRaven | well scsi should get loaded first, then md, if compiled in. i bet you have an initrd that's a bit wonky |
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| 23:50.34 | andyzweb | +v |
| 23:51.09 | greywolfe | SimonRaven: i do have initrd. my partitions - md0, md1, md2 are raid1 on ide drive partitions, md3 on 1 ide and 1 scsi. md0,1,2 are fine, md3 comes up degraded, missing the scsi drive |
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| 23:51.43 | SimonRaven | yeh, that scsi_mod should come right before or after ide* |
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| 23:52.22 | SJr | Holy wtf, apt-get dist-upgrade just owned my system. |
| 23:52.23 | inf | oh my god |
| 23:52.26 | _joey | does anyone know if there extension cable for speakers ? I have digital surroud with 5 speakers |
| 23:52.30 | inf | oh my god |
| 23:52.32 | SJr | How do I create a socket |
| 23:52.39 | SJr | as MySQLs socket file is gone |
| 23:52.41 | greywolfe | SimonRaven: was trying to avoid compiling a kernel. done it before, just not on debian. sounds like I should do that? |
| 23:52.52 | dvs | inf: Yes? ;-) |
| 23:52.53 | bucky | inf was it good for you too? |
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| 23:53.06 | wang | scenario: I have a 3 in 1 hp psc 1310 attached to a windows box, installed with drivers from hp, shared. I have samba installed on this debian box connected to a router, which is also connected to the windows box. I need to be able to print to this printer on the windows box. Cups is also installed |
| 23:53.09 | inf | who can help! |
| 23:53.13 | SimonRaven | yup. /msg dpkg kp |
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| 23:53.32 | inf | no |
| 23:53.33 | amphi | inf: help what? |
| 23:53.40 | inf | it's not working |
| 23:53.42 | wang | I also have drivers from hp for the printer installed on the debain box, I can not get it installed from the web admin page from cups, and ideas? |
| 23:53.43 | inf | i dunno why |
| 23:53.48 | phogg | kingsley: I googled some, but nothing clear comes up quickly. Now I;m trying to figure out why I;m at runlevel unknown |
| 23:53.53 | PhoenixMan | I find "wall" rather annoying, and I don't really know how to make sh scripts with arguments. |
| 23:54.04 | inf | http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org |
| 23:54.27 | greywolfe | SimonRaven: will try that and compile the scsi in the kernel. Thanks. |
| 23:54.27 | PhoenixMan | Can someone write a small script and put it on pastebin for me? The script would make a file called "tmp_wall" in /var and then use wall on it. |
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| 23:55.10 | inf | http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org |
| 23:55.20 | deadcat | !ops spammer ^^ |
| 23:55.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: spammer ^^ |
| 23:55.33 | SimonRaven | echo $(cat file) | wall |
| 23:55.37 | sifi | is there some way to use variables direct to perl i a script? x='foo' | perl -pli -e 's|$x|bar|'; echo $x This does obviously not work |
| 23:55.40 | SimonRaven | deadcat: um |
| 23:55.55 | bucky | inf <-- ubuntu user |
| 23:56.08 | deadcat | o |
| 23:56.24 | amphi | bucky: anathema! |
| 23:56.25 | inf | huh |
| 23:56.30 | bucky | inf <-- ubuntu user |
| 23:56.41 | grunx | prot |
| 23:56.44 | bucky | did you hear me that time? |
| 23:56.55 | wang | we heard you both times |
| 23:56.58 | wang | erm saw |
| 23:57.02 | *** join/#debian neil_dugan (n=neil@202.125.22.137) |
| 23:57.05 | PhoenixMan | echo $(cat file) | wall doesn't work. |
| 23:57.07 | inf | huh huh |
| 23:57.16 | grunx | grunx <-- power user |
| 23:57.32 | PhoenixMan | Uh. I need to know two things. |
| 23:57.38 | greywolfe | SimonRaven: one more thing, any good reason for moving to the 2.6 kernel from the 2.4 while I'm at it? |
| 23:57.39 | PhoenixMan | 1. How do I write to a file? |
| 23:57.45 | SimonRaven | didn't think it would... wild guess |
| 23:57.47 | PhoenixMan | well |
| 23:57.56 | dvs | greywolfe: not if you don't have a good reason (something not working) |
| 23:57.57 | bucky | what's a good command to tell sing to send a bunch of mal-formed - over sized packets? |
| 23:57.57 | cddesjar | greywolfe: usb autodetection was the only reason for me |
| 23:57.58 | PhoenixMan | I need to know how I can write the arguments sent to an SH script to a file |
| 23:58.11 | amphi | PhoenixMan: echo foo > bar |
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| 23:58.19 | SimonRaven | greywolfe: 2.4 is in maintenance mode now |
| 23:58.39 | greywolfe | dvs: my end goal is to install Xen. I've heard Xen should be run with 2.6 |
| 23:58.56 | dvs | greywolfe: Well, I guess that's a reason. ;-) |
| 23:59.28 | greywolfe | anyone know a good reason not to run Xen on the 2.4 kernels? |
| 23:59.30 | PhoenixMan | What variable stores the arguments? |
| 23:59.32 | PhoenixMan | $? |
| 23:59.56 | jongkyu | I can not see avi file with mplayer by user account. But I can see that by root account. Mplayer spit out below. "(!) DirectFB/core/vt: Error opening `/dev/tty0'! |
| 23:59.56 | jongkyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.56 | jongkyu | " |
| 23:59.56 | jongkyu | Is there anybody who knows this? |
| 23:59.56 | *** part/#debian jongkyu (n=user@221.152.188.178) |
