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| 00:00.34 | liu7 | I just wanted the .config for the default kernel |
| 00:00.41 | ab9id | can anyone point me in the direction of a lpd howto? I'm trying to configure a linux box so I can print to the local printer, by it's ip. |
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| 00:01.37 | sparr_ | khanman: no luck |
| 00:01.43 | khanman | sorry |
| 00:01.52 | elirips | anyone knows if there is a programm that displays the location of a traceroute on a map or something like that? like neotrace for windows? |
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| 00:01.59 | maher | g8se: is the info in a conf file, or is it managed by debconf? |
| 00:02.32 | maher | elirips: apt-cache search traceroute <-- one of those does |
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| 00:02.51 | g8se | maher: I think that debconf prompts for it, then writes a conf file. |
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| 00:03.27 | maher | g8se: if the conf file is already there debconf shouldn't do anything afaik |
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| 00:03.40 | maher | vulcanoid: umm... why do you need -R? |
| 00:03.44 | vulcanoid | maher do you mean: rsync -av --copy-links /foo/bar.txt foobar@foobar.com:/datafiles |
| 00:03.49 | vulcanoid | that will create a.txt |
| 00:03.54 | vulcanoid | under /datafiles directly |
| 00:04.00 | g8se | maher: I'm reading debconf(7) now. Looks like a good excuse to learn more about debconf |
| 00:04.03 | vulcanoid | it wont create /datafiles/foo/bar.txt |
| 00:04.08 | vulcanoid | sorry i meant bar.txt not a.txt |
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| 00:05.14 | maher | vulcanoid: rsync -av --copy-links /foo/ foobar@foobar.com:/datafiles/ <--- will create bar.txt in datafiles |
| 00:05.29 | vulcanoid | right |
| 00:05.39 | vulcanoid | thats not what i want |
| 00:05.41 | vulcanoid | i want to say |
| 00:05.57 | vulcanoid | rsync .... /foo/bar.txt foobar@foobar.com:/datafiles/ and |
| 00:06.00 | vulcanoid | create |
| 00:06.09 | vulcanoid | a directory foo under /datafiles and in that put bar.txt |
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| 00:06.46 | vulcanoid | we can do that with -R . thats the idea of -R but with symlinks on the client side it doesnt work |
| 00:06.48 | vulcanoid | with a normal directory/file it works great |
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| 00:07.25 | abrotman | !tell ganymed0 about root |
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| 00:09.21 | maher | vulcanoid: if foo is the only thing in / that's easy, use / as the from dir - other wise i dunno offhand |
| 00:09.58 | sOLO_OJOS | hOLAAAAAAAA |
| 00:10.20 | maher | vulcanoid: you can always use --files-from to specify a specific list of files you wish to transfer... |
| 00:10.27 | sOLO_OJOS | ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL |
| 00:10.31 | sOLO_OJOS | ?? |
| 00:10.32 | maher | !es |
| 00:10.32 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 00:14.57 | ZZswift | hey anybody familiar with installing Sarge? |
| 00:15.23 | fbi | no, no one in here has ever installed Sarge. |
| 00:15.31 | Mages | hi, anybody familiar with configurating squirrelmail |
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| 00:15.48 | jbroome | i do not know what this 'sarge' you speak of is |
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| 00:16.02 | jmpnz | Anyone here familiar with Getoo as well? |
| 00:16.15 | fbi | wtf is Getoo. |
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| 00:16.48 | Frem | How about this "bash" thing, eh? I've heard lots about that also. |
| 00:16.57 | jmpnz | I am hopeing to find some information as to what the critical differences are as I may have to support Debian as well as gentoo soon. |
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| 00:18.03 | ZZswift | i was running woody on a 1.2 T-bird |
| 00:18.07 | Frem | jmpnz: Read the Fine Manual. It tells what the big differnces between Debian and eveything else are. |
| 00:18.11 | fbi | jmpnz: in a nutshell, KDE takes about 60 seconds to install on Debian, on Gentoo it takes 6 hours. |
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| 00:19.16 | jmpnz | I have installed it (nice installer) and understand the diferences in the the init systems is there any other major area I should immediately be looking at. |
| 00:19.38 | jmpnz | s/./? |
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| 00:23.14 | christor | Hello |
| 00:23.34 | Mortalman | ummmmm, hi. |
| 00:23.43 | Frem | When I add a "contrib" server in /etc/apt/sources.list, do I just add "contrib" to the end of the server's entry, or do I need to add another line for a different respatory on the same server? |
| 00:23.44 | christor | I have a problem of slowness in the negociation ssh , someone have already seen the prob? |
| 00:24.00 | nano | hi, does anybody know any software that can detect the information about my hardwares? |
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| 00:24.31 | Frem | Does Debian have hwd? I think that's what Knoppix uses. |
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| 00:25.09 | Xenguy | nano: I don't know for sure, but would 'discover' help? |
| 00:26.00 | Frem | btw, nano, I like your nick. it's a good editor. |
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| 00:26.09 | ke6isf | Frem: re first question, yes. |
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| 00:26.35 | Frem | oh, ok. cool. |
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| 00:26.42 | ke6isf | nano: kudzu maybe? |
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| 00:27.49 | Frem | What do you want to detect? |
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| 00:28.16 | nano | um....my dad's friend gave me a computer, but i don't know what parts it has |
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| 00:29.22 | Frem | nano: go with hwd then. It's always worked for me, though, Debian's hardware detection has improved amazingly. It autodetected everything on this system, no problem. |
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| 00:29.58 | ke6isf | Frem: hwd doesn't exist in Debian. Package 'hwdata' is what kudzu uses. |
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| 00:30.11 | ke6isf | Frem: Or rather, it doesn't seem to exist as a package in Sarge. |
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| 00:30.38 | Frem | whatever. hardware detection in sarge is amazing, compared to what it used to be. |
| 00:30.46 | ke6isf | Frem: Indeed, it is. |
| 00:30.50 | abrotman | hwinfo |
| 00:30.53 | abrotman | lspci, lsusb |
| 00:30.57 | ke6isf | abrotman: That too, thanks. |
| 00:31.08 | fbi | nano: boot a live cd, knoppix shows all the hardware info during the boot process. |
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| 00:31.31 | Mortalman | fast debian mirror for Florida anyone ? |
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| 00:31.46 | abrotman | apt-spy |
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| 00:32.08 | nano | ok...so the package 'hwdata'? |
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| 00:32.19 | mwilson | Mortalman: What difference does it make? |
| 00:32.21 | ke6isf | nano: Better make that 'hwinfo'. |
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| 00:33.04 | Frem | Is there an apt source for Opera? |
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| 00:33.37 | abrotman | Frem: just grab the package from opera.com |
| 00:33.47 | Frem | alright. |
| 00:34.01 | Mortalman | mwilson: Umm, netinstall. What differance would it not make? |
| 00:34.17 | abrotman | Frem: i think there was one .. from opera .. but not sure it still exists |
| 00:34.31 | lenux_box | is there a version of debain able to run on old 486.....just play with or should i go with slack |
| 00:34.40 | ke6isf | lenux_box: Sarge should work. |
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| 00:34.52 | abrotman | Frem: or ask in #opera on irc.opera.com |
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| 00:35.03 | lenux_box | sarge ok ill google it |
| 00:35.10 | ke6isf | !tell lenux_box -about sarge |
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| 00:35.14 | abrotman | lenux_box: how much ram ? |
| 00:35.19 | mwilson | Mortalman: Dunno... I've never found any reason to die just because I wasn't connected to a wire-speed mirror. |
| 00:35.41 | lenux_box | 8mb |
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| 00:35.53 | abrotman | lenux_box: you will have to install woody first |
| 00:36.05 | ke6isf | dang, that's tight... |
| 00:36.10 | abrotman | and i'm not even sure that's enough for woody |
| 00:36.21 | Gathond | abrotman: I seem to remember woody reguiring 12 MB, so he probably needs to use potato |
| 00:36.22 | Mortalman | mwilson: When you have a lan party going on and people are waiting for shit. A slow mirror is hell. |
| 00:36.23 | abrotman | lenux_box: no spare 72pin RAM laying around ? :) |
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| 00:36.29 | ke6isf | abrotman: I think I read somewhere that it'll work, but you have to mount swap before you do anything else. |
| 00:36.31 | lenux_box | well how much ram can u put in these old things |
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| 00:36.45 | abrotman | lenux_box: i have 36 in my 486 .. depends on the motherboard |
| 00:36.46 | lenux_box | just got 1 to mees with today |
| 00:36.54 | reezeh | mebbe up to 128MB |
| 00:36.55 | lenux_box | ok |
| 00:36.58 | Mortalman | mwilson: but let's just start an arguemtn with a guy becsue you don't know the answer to his question. Maybe that will help somehow. |
| 00:37.04 | abrotman | reezeh: not likely |
| 00:37.24 | reezeh | probably 8 or summat like that |
| 00:37.28 | ke6isf | Mortalman: The point being is that you don't need one local to you. The internet has improved muchly in ten years to the point where you don't need to worry about locality of mirror so much. |
| 00:37.34 | reezeh | depends on the chipset |
| 00:37.35 | lenux_box | wow it would be cool just to use it as chat box all im lookn for it todo at moment |
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| 00:38.07 | lenux_box | geting a funny keyboard error tho gotta get another |
| 00:38.13 | abrotman | mine is 36 max .. some are 48 .. probably 64 is the limit for most .. unless it's like a DX4/100 or 120 |
| 00:38.17 | Mortalman | ke6isf: Wasn't aware that locality wasn't an issue, but would still like a fast server. hehe |
| 00:38.40 | lenux_box | brb ill see what it is upstairs |
| 00:38.41 | ke6isf | Mortalman: For install purposes? Just pick one. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, pick another. |
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| 00:39.17 | ke6isf | Mortalman: In fact, it's the case regardless of whether you're installing. Just run apt-setup. |
| 00:39.28 | Frem | It really rocks to be able to use XFCE 4.0, instead of the latest version. Fewer features, but it really flys on this old machine. |
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| 00:40.55 | WiFiTux | there was a config file, where one puts the settings for postfix or the mta. Where was that file? is a fairly simple and small file where you set the few options? |
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| 00:41.20 | lenux_box | 486 dx266mghz proffesional pc never even heard of them it boots but hands at a keyboard error so after i get another board imm going to try to install some version of linux on it to play with. |
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| 00:41.30 | lenux_box | hangs^ |
| 00:41.31 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: /etc/postfix/main.cf |
| 00:41.42 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Did you get your domain naming issue solved yet? |
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| 00:41.50 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: not really. It was a small config file? maybe like for pop3 or anything? |
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| 00:41.55 | Frem | Hey, what do I have to do to pick the "sensible-browser"? Is it just a config file I edit someplace so that it can be different for each user, or do I have to change the system link for everyone? |
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| 00:42.08 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: no, I answered you but no reply from you. |
| 00:42.08 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Not for pop3. postfix doesn't do that. And yeah, it's relatively small. |
| 00:42.19 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Must have been AFK, sorry. You're running Postfix then? |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | Frem: man update-alternatives |
| 00:43.00 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: yep, and pop3d and some other stuff. |
| 00:43.02 | Frem | abrotman, thanks. =) |
| 00:43.07 | lenux_box | doesn any in here still use there old 486 for anything or i am the ony tard wanting see if i can get this thing working as something |
| 00:43.10 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: any idea then? |
| 00:43.26 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Yeah. It can be fixed, but I need to figure out which option to set. |
| 00:43.31 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: I'm an idiot. yes main.cf |
| 00:43.37 | WiFiTux | I was there |
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| 00:43.59 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: maybe myhostname = debian.wifitux.com is wrong and should be wifitux.com? |
| 00:44.10 | maher | lenux_box: 486's are borderline for the sarge default kernels - check you have enough ram - i've never used anything below a p50ish |
| 00:44.24 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Probably. Lemme doublecheck. Also do 'apt-get install postfix-doc' if you haven't already. |
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| 00:44.32 | abrotman | i have a 486 running sarge with a 2.6 kernel |
| 00:44.38 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: It's either myhostname, myorigin, or mydomain, can't remember. |
| 00:45.07 | lenux_box | really what do use it for |
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| 00:45.15 | gozz | is there someone in here that uses mplayer and could help me out? |
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| 00:45.58 | apokryphos | is it possible to "go back" in a dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 00:46.13 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: OK, got it. Is myorigin set? |
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| 00:46.46 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: yep which is wifitux.com |
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| 00:47.14 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: bah? mydestination = wifitux.com, debian.wifitux.com, localhost.localdomain, localho |
| 00:47.19 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: And it's still saying 'From: foobar@debian.wifitux.com'? |
| 00:47.26 | lenux_box | do you use for command line only things or what u got going on with it |
| 00:47.29 | WiFiTux | myorigin = wifitux.com |
| 00:47.44 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:47.44 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 00:48.06 | lenux_box | ok you |
| 00:48.27 | gozz | when i type gmplayer it starts then stops at vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 16 and 16 bpp (":0.0" => local display) |
| 00:48.27 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: maybe mydestination is wrong? |
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| 00:48.31 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: OK, then myorigin should be correct, mydestination can be left alone (unless you did, indeed, say 'localho' when you meant 'localhost'), and 'mydomain' should not be set at all - it will default to 'myhostname' without the first component. |
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| 00:48.44 | gozz | anyone know what im missing? |
| 00:49.16 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: When you're done, do 'postfix check'. If it returns nothing, all is well - restart the daemon with the new settings as required. |
| 00:49.19 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: I have no mydomain |
| 00:49.30 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: That's good, that means it defaults as described. |
| 00:49.45 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Now why, though, is it doing this? |
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| 00:50.12 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: so, myhostname is ok with debian.wifitux.com or only wifitux.com? |
| 00:50.33 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: If I'm reading this correctly, it should be fine as is. mydomain will assume 'wifitux.com' if left alone. |
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| 00:50.50 | WiFiTux | let me see if that will make a diff |
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| 00:51.45 | ke6isf | Hmm, fuud would be good. |
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| 00:52.18 | TwistedEmotions | how do I reset my known/trusted ssh keys? I accidentally tried to SSH into a remote computer... wasnt my box but I hit YES to the key warning... how do I take that off? |
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| 00:52.24 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: same thing. :( |
| 00:52.40 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: What do you get if you type 'hostname' at a prompt? |
| 00:53.18 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: debian |
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| 00:53.45 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: OK, strike 'debian.' from the myhostname line. See what it does. Watch your logfile, though, when you restart it. |
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| 00:54.03 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: I already did. |
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| 00:54.23 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: And? |
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| 00:54.45 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: restart, and same thing. |
| 00:55.17 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: What mail client are you using? |
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| 00:55.27 | apprentice | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.46 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: pine |
| 00:55.56 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: ah! maybe is that! |
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| 00:56.05 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Check your pine configuration. If I remember right, postfix won't append something unless it's lacking the domain. |
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| 00:57.42 | vortek | Can I get 5.1 surround sound with my audigy in debian ? ANy options I can use or config ? |
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| 00:58.57 | TwistedEmotions | Testing distrib now has security updates? |
| 00:58.57 | Quinn_Storm | quick question. (in debian) what's the easiest way to put a computer into "sleep" mode via acpi? I don't need suspend-to-disk as its a desktop, just "sleep" (fans, disks, video off, cpu 'halt') |
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| 00:59.17 | vortek | I think there all sleeping today |
| 00:59.44 | ke6isf | TwistedEmotions: Last I heard. |
| 01:00.08 | CosmoDad | does Xorg not execute the X session scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ anymore? After I upgraded, my ssh-add scripts fails to load |
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| 01:01.35 | vortek | Is it possible to get 5.1 surround sound in debian at all ? |
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| 01:02.27 | Nach | Can whoever is compiling Valgrind not tell it to use SSE? Us not P4/AXP+ people can't use it :( |
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| 01:02.45 | Quinn_Storm | oops, apparently unplugging the power to the hdd while the system is on is a bad thing...anyhow, any response to my question? |
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| 01:06.58 | astartoth | hi there, anyway i can get debian show me the [ ok ] during boot like ubuntu ? |
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| 01:07.54 | thecoolestcow | hey, how can i access/mount my removable harddrive (i'm almost positive its ntfs) |
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| 01:08.05 | walterbrunswick | ubuntu :| |
| 01:08.19 | Guerin | thecoolestcow: don't be almost positive. Know. |
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| 01:08.19 | walterbrunswick | astartoth, is ubuntu better than debian in your opinion please? |
| 01:08.25 | Goran_ | debian sarge installer dont support sata. would sid support it? |
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| 01:08.29 | walterbrunswick | I mean debian better than ubuntu? |
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| 01:08.37 | thecoolestcow | guerin: yes, i know its ntfs |
| 01:08.46 | LightVision | walterbrunswick: ubuntu is based on Debian, so how can it be better?> |
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| 01:08.48 | dogmeat | thecoolestcow: find out which device its under then mount it. check dmesg |
| 01:08.51 | Guerin | astartoth: ask the ubuntu folks how they did it. |
| 01:08.59 | walterbrunswick | lol, I didn't know that :p |
| 01:09.05 | astartoth | walterbrunswick, debian is my absolute fav. debian is a derivative, desktop oriented.. it's pretty solid too. its debian! |
| 01:09.08 | LightVision | walterbrunswick: ubuntu is for girls, Debian for men |
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| 01:09.20 | walterbrunswick | laff |
| 01:09.21 | superkitty | anyone know a deb repository that has openoffice 1.9 ? |
| 01:09.34 | LightVision | walterbrunswick: ubuntu is for girls, Debian for men! so ask yourself, are you a girl or a man? :) |
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| 01:09.57 | astartoth | i mean, ubuntu is a derivative.. desktop oriented. |
| 01:10.02 | LightVision | superkitty: non existent |
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| 01:10.26 | superkitty | Light that is what i figured but thought it good to ask and be sure |
| 01:10.30 | walterbrunswick | I actually tried installing Ubuntu on a 400GB SATA HDD, but the "auto-greeter" program crashed, and I couldn't get into the desktop. That really turned me bias against Ubuntu. |
| 01:10.38 | bcc | is there a way to reinstall all installed packages with aptitude? aside from listing all of them with dpkg and piping to the aptitute reinstall? |
| 01:10.41 | thecoolestcow | guerin: uhh, now what |
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| 01:11.08 | Goran_ | the only distro that supported sata that i tried was centos |
| 01:11.09 | walterbrunswick | Does Debian work well with SATA? |
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| 01:11.23 | walterbrunswick | aha |
| 01:11.26 | dogmeat | walterbrunswick: yeah |
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| 01:12.12 | dogmeat | walterbrunswick: just drives, like /dev/sda ( marvell controllers for example) |
| 01:12.33 | Gathond | bcc: I would use the listing them approach |
| 01:12.49 | bcc | Gathond: yeah, is it safe to do? |
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| 01:12.54 | vortek | Does any one know if it is possible to get 5.1 in linux ? |
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| 01:12.58 | bcc | Gathond: btw, thanks for the memtest. that was it |
| 01:13.04 | bcc | Gathond: one of the dimms was bad |
| 01:13.09 | brob | is unstable broken |
| 01:13.12 | walterbrunswick | "<Goran_> debian sarge installer dont support sata." ... Is that for real? |
| 01:13.17 | Maneit | Hi.. does anyone know if there are packages for mplayer fonts? I remember there was mplayer-fonts in marillat earlier, but I cant find it now :> |
| 01:13.24 | superkitty | bcc you can reinstall the programs |
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| 01:13.41 | Gathond | bcc: yes, getting all the ^ii package names and asking apt-get of aptitude to reinstall them all should be safe |
| 01:13.42 | Goran_ | it says: no partitionable devices found |
| 01:13.47 | dogmeat | walterbrunswick: AFAIK you can load device drivers during installation so that it will recognize your SATA drive. |
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| 01:13.56 | Gathond | bcc: nice, that you found it |
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| 01:14.02 | walterbrunswick | swell :) |
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| 01:14.13 | Goran_ | note: the amd64 version |
| 01:14.20 | bcc | Gathond: yeah. it really screwed up a lot of stuff |
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| 01:16.21 | Mugsy_ | Okay, I don't have the source for wine, so where can I get an example config file for ~/.wine/config? |
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| 01:16.43 | vortek | Ok has any one ever gotten 5.1 sound to work in debian ? |
| 01:16.48 | vortek | A simple yes or no is all I'm asking for |
| 01:16.56 | vortek | its not hard to type yes or no |
| 01:16.57 | vortek | :P |
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| 01:18.16 | Mugsy_ | Does anyone use wine? |
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| 01:19.11 | apprentice | Mugsy_ i prepher vodka |
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| 01:19.12 | phreak | Matthew_: Sure, I drink it occaisonally. |
| 01:19.20 | PhilTheIr | Hi! #debian! |
| 01:19.25 | phreak | Hi PhilTheIr! |
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| 01:20.38 | Nazxul | Ahh... hmm. |
| 01:21.07 | vortek | What is so scary about surround sound in linux hahaha |
| 01:21.24 | PhilTheIr | I have a new powerbook g4 1.5ghz with a 80gb ata harddisk. i wonder if there is a way to partition the harddrive to install debian without having to delete the whole partition. |
| 01:21.35 | vortek | yeah |
| 01:21.37 | vortek | fips |
| 01:21.39 | vortek | or pratition magic |
| 01:21.42 | vortek | just be carefull ;) |
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| 01:21.53 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 01:21.53 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 01:21.54 | Nazxul | Partition Magic works on Macs? |
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| 01:22.02 | vortek | oh |
| 01:22.04 | PhilTheIr | i dont think that partition magic works on a mac |
| 01:22.05 | vortek | maybe |
| 01:22.06 | Guerin | never use partition magic on non-windfows filesystems |
| 01:22.07 | Mugsy_ | Where can I get help with wine? |
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| 01:22.12 | LightVision | im using Sarge, how can I upgrade Sarge to unstable Etch? |
| 01:22.13 | vortek | use fips |
| 01:22.18 | Guerin | use native partitioning tools |
| 01:22.18 | Nazxul | I don't think it does. |
| 01:22.26 | fisious | never heard of part magic for mac |
| 01:22.31 | Nazxul | Yeah. There is a partition tool on Mac OS X. |
| 01:22.37 | Guerin | LightVision: 1) unstable is not etch 2) if you think unstable is etch, you ought to stay on sarge. |
| 01:22.40 | LightVision | Mugsy_: dont drink wine, drink grape juice instead |
| 01:22.40 | Nazxul | Don't remember what it's called though. |
| 01:22.41 | fisious | i think you'd need to back up, install linux 1st then OSX 2nd |
| 01:22.44 | Nazxul | Drink beer. |
| 01:22.46 | Nazxul | Beer beer. |
| 01:22.48 | vortek | LightVision nano /etc/apt/source.conf change stable to unstable then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:22.56 | LightVision | Guerin: is Etch "testing" ? |
| 01:22.57 | AtnNn | how do i put a console in utf8 mode? i have to set LANG to en_CA instead of en_CA.utf8 because curses apps are messed up if i dont |
| 01:22.59 | Guerin | !kill vortek |
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| 01:23.03 | Guerin | LightVision: etch is testing. |
| 01:23.06 | hogmeat | Mugsy_: i've used it and it worked marginally. what's the problem? |
| 01:23.12 | Guerin | !sid evangelism |
| 01:23.12 | dpkg | sid evangelism is, like, Sure, run Sid all you like - do as you please - just don't advise inexperienced users to run unstable as their main debian install. If you do, you get to help them exclusively, and #debian gets to curse your name for ever more. |
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| 01:23.15 | Guerin | vortek: ^^^ |
| 01:23.20 | LightVision | Guerin: ok! so how can I upgrade Sarge to testing etch? |
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| 01:23.32 | Guerin | LightVision: /msg dpkg sarge -> etch |
| 01:23.34 | vortek | LightVision: I just told you |
| 01:23.36 | Guerin | LightVision: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 01:23.36 | Mugsy_ | hogmeat: I need to know where I can get the example config file for ~/.wine/config |
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| 01:23.50 | vortek | but unstalbe is not good |
| 01:23.50 | LightVision | vortek: you said stable, but its testing |
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| 01:23.55 | hogmeat | Mugsy_: you tried google? |
| 01:23.59 | Guerin | Mugsy_: use winesetup[tk] |
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| 01:24.03 | vortek | LightVision replace testing with unstable them :P |
| 01:24.12 | LightVision | vortek LightVision nano /etc/apt/source.conf change stable to unstable then apt-get dist-upgrade <-- according to Guerin its Testing |
| 01:24.13 | PhilTheIr | i know there is a partitioning tool on mac but it can only delete the whole harddisk first and then do the partitioning job. i dont want to loose everything i have while installing debian (i want to dualboot debian - macosx) |
| 01:24.23 | Guerin | LightVision: so change stable to testing |
| 01:24.29 | LightVision | vortek: are you new to Debian? |
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| 01:24.36 | Mugsy_ | I tried google, i'll try the setup |
| 01:24.38 | vortek | oh etch is testing not unstable LightVision |
| 01:24.41 | LightVision | Guerin: ok |
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| 01:24.48 | LightVision | vortek: ok thanks |
| 01:24.52 | christor | Please is it possible to configure Server NFS slave? |
| 01:24.53 | LightVision | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.57 | vortek | yeah I though sid was always unstable |
| 01:24.59 | LightVision | !dpkg sarge -> etch |
| 01:25.03 | vortek | LightVision: yeah stick with etch dont go sid |
| 01:25.16 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Hmm. I don't know if it's resizable. |
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| 01:25.37 | LightVision | vortek: so I change all stable words to testing in sources.list? |
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| 01:25.52 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Behold... the power of google. |
| 01:25.53 | Mugsy_ | bash: winesetup[tk]: command not found |
| 01:25.55 | Mugsy_ | Thats what I get |
| 01:26.27 | LightVision | vortek: whats diderence between etch and sid? |
| 01:26.44 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: What filesystem type are you using? |
| 01:27.23 | vortek | sid is evul |
| 01:27.24 | vortek | :) |
| 01:27.27 | LightVision | Guerin: how come Sarge comes with kernel 2.4 and not 2.6.8? |
| 01:27.32 | vortek | only run it if you know how to use strace ;) |
| 01:27.32 | Nazxul | Etch 4tw. |
| 01:27.35 | PhilTheIr | mac os extended (journaled) |
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| 01:27.40 | vortek | dpkg tell LightVision sid |
| 01:27.43 | PhilTheIr | i think |
| 01:27.43 | Guerin | LightVision: it doesn't. |
| 01:27.45 | vortek | dpkg: sid |
| 01:27.46 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 01:27.56 | LightVision | Guerin: it doesnt what>? |
| 01:27.57 | ke6isf | !tell LightVision -about sid |
| 01:28.06 | Guerin | Mugsy_: install winesetup |
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| 01:28.12 | vortek | !tell LightVision -about unstable |
| 01:28.17 | Guerin | Mugsy_: there are several versions, of which winesetuptk is one |
| 01:28.31 | fraafjo | is sid always the name of the unstable debian release? |
| 01:28.38 | Guerin | LightVision: it doesn't come with kernel 2.4 and not 2.6.8 |
| 01:28.43 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 01:28.44 | dpkg | hmm... sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 01:28.58 | Guerin | everyone read that url before asking any more idiot qiestions about sid |
| 01:29.01 | vortek | sid is unstable |
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| 01:29.06 | LightVision | Guerin: I bought a magazine with Debian Sarge and installed it from that 3 weeks ago! And it installed kernel 2.4 |
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| 01:29.13 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Hmm... |
| 01:29.18 | vortek | LightVision: then tell it to use the 2.6 kerne |
| 01:29.22 | Xenguy | hello - I installed Ubuntu on an old lap-top this weekend, and everything went nicely except for these *dreadful* fonts that appear everywhere now (menus, editors, you name it). Also the screen resolution is 800X600, and AFAIK the windows installation was able to do better than that. Can anyone suggest how I can improve the font appearance (and secondly, if possible, the screen resolution) ? |
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| 01:29.28 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Have you tried iPartition? Apparently it can resize those. |
| 01:29.28 | Xenguy | ww |
| 01:29.29 | Guerin | LightVision: KCI Error. |
| 01:29.38 | LightVision | vortek: kci error? |
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| 01:29.46 | Guerin | !kci error |
| 01:29.50 | Guerin | bah |
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| 01:29.56 | LightVision | Guerin: hehe |
| 01:29.58 | Guerin | !kci |
| 01:29.58 | dpkg | kci is, like, Keyboard-Chair Interface |
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| 01:30.25 | PhilTheIr | no i have not tried iPartition. Is it free Software? |
| 01:30.26 | Guerin | Xenguy: why are you asking this in #debian? |
| 01:30.39 | Guerin | PhilTheIr: hahah, apple ... free software ... right. |
| 01:30.41 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Nope. But you can use the trial to get the job done. |
| 01:30.43 | Xenguy | Guerin: ww = wrong window (my mistake) |
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| 01:30.51 | LightVision | Guerin: I install sarge from CD and it installed kernel 2.4, and then I "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6" and it installed kernel 2.6.8 |
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| 01:31.14 | LightVision | PhilTheIr: tried Partimage ? |
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| 01:31.25 | Nazxul | PhilTheIr: Here... http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/iPartition.shtml |
| 01:31.32 | fraafjo | Xenguy, try dpkg reconfigure x-window-system-core or manually edit the configuration file in /etc/X11, I think it's called XF86Config. Maybe not :] |
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| 01:31.44 | LightVision | fraafjo: lol ;) |
| 01:31.49 | Mugsy_ | wine conflics with winesetuptk |
| 01:31.55 | Guerin | Xenguy: ah, i geddit. |
| 01:32.14 | Guerin | LightVision: you didn'y read the boot instructions. |
| 01:32.50 | LightVision | Guerin: indeed I did :) |
| 01:34.53 | PhilTheIr | thanks for the link Nazxul! |
| 01:35.07 | PhilTheIr | I will try it out. |
| 01:35.15 | Mugsy_ | God, wine conflics with wine-doc also |
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| 01:36.02 | soto | anyone in here have the serial number for VMware? |
| 01:36.18 | Mugsy_ | wine-doc replaces wine? |
| 01:36.21 | sward | Is this suddenly a warez channel? |
| 01:36.21 | Mugsy_ | Is that right? |
| 01:36.23 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 01:36.33 | DoppelGanger | soto: you are very funny |
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| 01:36.57 | duncf | soto: yes i do |
| 01:37.08 | mwilson | soto: I have one. |
| 01:37.08 | dr0p | has anyone setup a mouse connected to a keyboard for an iMac ? |
| 01:37.18 | Guerin | LightVision: if you had, you'd have known how to boot the installer to a 2.6 kernel... |
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| 01:37.23 | soto | can u give me? |
| 01:37.28 | duncf | nope |
| 01:37.33 | sward | soto: Use qemu or xen or something instead.. or *buy* the product |
| 01:37.36 | LightVision | Guerin: hmmm, so it seems I missed that |
| 01:37.56 | LightVision | Guerin: so its possible to install Sarge with kernel 2.6 instead? |
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| 01:38.08 | mwilson | soto: Now, why would I do something silly like that? |
| 01:38.14 | dr0p | can anyone help me setup my iMac mouse thats connected to my keyboard ? |
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| 01:38.22 | soto | duncf don lie.u don have it kid |
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| 01:38.34 | dr0p | hell if anyone's setup an iMac in xf86 i'd like to talk to you to setup this thing. |
| 01:38.39 | Guerin | !ig LightVision |
| 01:38.39 | dr0p | it's a G3 |
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| 01:38.52 | dr0p | macs.... |
| 01:38.55 | Mugsy_ | In order to get winesetup I have to delete wine? |
| 01:38.55 | duncf | soto: hmm? I have a legal copy of vmware, and I'm not going to give you my serial |
| 01:39.04 | LightVision | Guerin: !ig LightVision didnt do anythging |
| 01:39.16 | duncf | soto: perhaps you can find an alternative, or you can buy the product |
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| 01:39.49 | Nazxul | soto: What makes you think this is a warez channel? |
| 01:40.09 | soto | Well i won´t pay for a product that is unstable. |
| 01:40.20 | abrotman | soto: you're in the wrong channel .. ask #vmware |
| 01:40.28 | atom-z | vmware offer a trial version |
| 01:40.33 | mwilson | soto: And what's unstable about VMWare? |
| 01:40.34 | atom-z | download that to see if it works |
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| 01:40.53 | soto | mwilson the program as a whole |
| 01:41.08 | abrotman | soto: this is the wrong channel .. we will not help you pirate software |
| 01:41.17 | xixor | hey everyone, quick question, I am compiling a program I just downloaded, and get a message: 'memcpy' was not declared in this scope, do I need to add a header to this? |
| 01:41.19 | mwilson | soto: Meaning what, other than that you're a cheap bastard who doesn't think he should have to pay for what he gets? |
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| 01:41.21 | LightVision | soto: XO is unstable, would you pay for that? |
| 01:41.28 | atom-z | mwilson, x64 support limited & Direct3D experimental, also debian is not officially supported afaik |
| 01:41.29 | abrotman | i pay XO |
| 01:41.30 | LightVision | soto: MS Windows XP is unstable, would you pay for that? |
| 01:41.30 | sward | soto: then use qemu |
| 01:41.40 | abrotman | xixor: only if it errors |
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| 01:41.42 | atom-z | XO? |
| 01:41.51 | abrotman | XO communications :) |
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| 01:42.03 | soto | Light vision that? the point.use pirate software that? better solution |
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| 01:42.21 | LightVision | soto: talk in english, using proper grammar pls |
| 01:42.26 | abrotman | LightVision: pls ? |
| 01:42.38 | Nazxul | Oh god, Engrish attack. :( |
| 01:42.40 | LightVision | Nazxul: nobody can understand his gibberish |
| 01:42.49 | abrotman | !pls |
| 01:42.49 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
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| 01:44.45 | Guerin | oh, irony |
| 01:44.52 | PhilTheIr | Thanks Nazxul iPartition looks promising. I will try it out. |
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| 01:45.31 | atom-z | how do I get apt-cache to tell me what software version is in its database? (like, is openoffice.org version 2.0 beta?) |
| 01:45.39 | Guerin | atom-z: apt-cache policy |
| 01:45.57 | abrotman | apt-cache show |
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| 01:47.12 | atom-z | ok, thanks |
| 01:47.18 | Rhinoz | does anyone here use ispman |
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| 01:47.58 | Mortalman | The Firefox installer from mozilla.org wants to install in the current dir. Although I will need to make symlinks, What is the proper place to install it ?? |
| 01:48.14 | underdog | Hi everyone. I have a doubt. How can I get my laptop to use X to use the alternative screen (ie. exterior screen, datashow, etc)? |
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| 01:48.57 | Mortalman | underdog: Xinerama? I have no idea. |
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| 01:49.21 | maher | Mortalman: what's wrong with debian firefox |
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| 01:50.08 | Mortalman | maher: Just want the later version is all. |
| 01:50.27 | abrotman | it is the same version afaik |
| 01:50.28 | Mortalman | Gaim and Firefox need to be the latest, everything else can be older and stable. |
| 01:50.41 | underdog | Does anyone have an idea? |
| 01:50.42 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 01:51.15 | maher | Mortalman: try backports.org |
| 01:51.26 | abrotman | and the FF in sarge is the newest afaik .. they just changed the version string |
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| 01:52.02 | Mortalman | abrotman: Who in their right mind would compile a nwer version and change it to make it look lke the older? |
| 01:52.15 | jeff009 | i just installed a new motherboard/proc on my machine, and now every time i try to boot, it hangs up at, "mount-cache hash table entries" |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | Mortalman: don't ask me .. i'm not on the security team |
| 01:52.54 | Mortalman | maher: Nah, I'd like to use the official, I just don't know what the proper install dir is. |
| 01:53.15 | christor | I search how to synchronize data over IP linux |
| 01:53.19 | Gnea | ugh |
| 01:53.21 | christor | between 2 machine |
| 01:53.38 | Gnea | !tell christor about rsync |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | Mortalman: if you don't know .. don't |
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| 01:53.54 | maher | Mortalman: if you don't want to use the deb package there is no best place to put it - pick somewhere you'll remember... |
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| 01:54.03 | Gnea | abrotman: i think this hard drive bit it :/ |
| 01:54.05 | Gnea | *** Fatal error: cannot get sector size on dev(/dev/sdc). |
| 01:54.12 | maher | Mortalman: something with local in the path is probaby not a bad idea... |
| 01:54.16 | abrotman | Gnea: good guess :) |
| 01:54.21 | underdog | Hi everyone. I have a doubt. How can I get my laptop to use X to use the alternative screen (ie. exterior screen, datashow, etc)? |
| 01:54.22 | Mortalman | maher: I was thinking that. |
| 01:54.44 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah but i don't have a recent backup... i might have to start all over :( |
| 01:54.52 | maher | underdog: plug the screen in and press random keys like fn f5 on your laptop till it starts to work? |
| 01:55.32 | LightVision | Guerin: i will stick with Sarge |
| 01:55.38 | abrotman | Gnea: ack! |
| 01:55.42 | LightVision | Guerin: can I show you something please? |
| 01:55.54 | abrotman | Guerin: hopefully it's not a picture! |
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| 01:55.58 | Guerin | LightVision: depends |
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| 01:56.18 | Gnea | abrotman: i'm trying to utilize gpart to reconstruct.. |
| 01:56.38 | underdog | maher: I wish it were that simple ;) |
| 01:56.43 | abrotman | Gnea: itmight be the controller board on the drive |
| 01:56.54 | LightVision | Guerin: can I show you my current sources.list, and can you tell me if its properly set up for just using sarge stable sources please? |
| 01:56.55 | maher | underdog: does stuff appear on the external monitor? |
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| 01:57.16 | LightVision | Guerin: please |
| 01:57.18 | Mortalman | maher: backports.org has an older version than sarge. lol |
| 01:57.19 | Gnea | abrotman: it's an adaptec uw scsi card |
| 01:57.31 | maher | Mortalman: that might be a backport to woody then |
| 01:57.34 | liu7 | has anyone made the zd1211 module? |
| 01:57.34 | f555 | any have the driver video sis 6215c for linux? |
| 01:57.45 | abrotman | Gnea: i meant on the drive .. the drive electronics .. not the controller card for the IDE/SCSI bus stuff |
| 01:57.56 | Guerin | LightVision: no. Use apt-setup. |
| 01:57.58 | Gnea | oooooooh ok |
| 01:58.09 | LightVision | Guerin: :( |
| 01:58.32 | LightVision | Guerin: are you angry today? |
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| 01:59.17 | Guerin | LightVision: not at all. I just don't see why you're not using the tools provided. |
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| 02:00.12 | LightVision | Guerin: this is the first day I have seen you act this way. you are always very helpful indeed! so sorry for bothering you,. I wont ask you again anything. Have a lovely day. |
| 02:00.25 | Guerin | wtf |
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| 02:00.31 | Guerin | I'm always like this. |
| 02:00.52 | f555 | any have the driver video sis 6215c for linux? |
| 02:01.02 | underdog | maher: nothing |
| 02:01.07 | Guerin | specifically: encouraging people to learn for themselves, instead of leeching off others. |
| 02:02.17 | LightVision | Guerin: yeah no worries, as I said, I wont ask you anything ever again. Sorry to have bothered you, wont happen again. |
| 02:02.31 | Guerin | ... |
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| 02:02.53 | Guerin | LightVision: ok, you can sulk as much as you please. |
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| 02:04.18 | maher | underdog: is there a button on your laptop with a picture of a monitor on it? |
| 02:04.29 | underdog | maher: yeah, it's Fn + F7 |
| 02:04.45 | sward | !hug Guerin |
| 02:04.48 | underdog | i think this is software-controlled, not hardware |
| 02:04.58 | maher | underdog: what happens when you press fn f7 a number of times? what model laptop? |
| 02:05.07 | underdog | a sony vaio. nothing |
| 02:05.45 | ke6isf | How would I alter what fortune(6) displays when called (i.e., how would I tell it what files to pull from)? |
| 02:05.49 | maher | underdog: what model number |
| 02:06.00 | jisao1 | !xserver |
| 02:06.10 | Guerin | !aww |
| 02:06.10 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 02:06.23 | underdog | VGN-FS215s |
| 02:06.47 | Guerin | haha, in message: <LightVision> Guerin!*@* added to ignore list |
| 02:06.54 | Guerin | because I give a fuck! |
| 02:08.21 | dr0p | how do i get startx to load blackbox? i installed x-window-system-core and all it's dependencies |
| 02:08.35 | dogmeat | after my sys boots, can i scroll up to see the console messages? |
| 02:08.40 | ke6isf | LightVision: Post your file in #flood. |
| 02:08.42 | ldexter | run blackbox from your .xinitrd file |
| 02:08.52 | jisao1 | !drxx |
| 02:08.52 | dpkg | [drxx] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:08.54 | dr0p | ldexter whats the command for that in .xinitrd? |
| 02:08.55 | Guerin | dr0p: echo "exec blackbox" > ~/.xsession |
| 02:09.01 | dr0p | thanks Guerin |
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| 02:09.06 | ldexter | and chmod +x .xsession |
| 02:09.08 | Guerin | xinitrc, or xsession |
| 02:09.09 | maher | underdog: did you check linux laptops |
| 02:09.27 | jisao1 | !xmd5 |
| 02:09.27 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 02:09.55 | underdog | yeah |
| 02:09.59 | underdog | it had no information |
| 02:10.02 | underdog | for this model anyway |
| 02:10.04 | Coweater | is there any way to make k3b not take priority over other apps when burning? |
| 02:10.11 | ke6isf | !tell underdog -about enter |
| 02:10.18 | ke6isf | Coweater: Yeah, nice. |
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| 02:10.22 | Guerin | Coweater: in terms of cpu usage? it's probably unwise. |
| 02:10.23 | ke6isf | Coweater: Or renice, rather. |
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| 02:10.50 | maher | underdog: not even http://web.tagus.ist.utl.pt/~ricardo.cruz/sonyDebianHowTo/debian-vaio-fs215s.htm |
| 02:11.01 | dr0p | ok that worked |
| 02:11.07 | jeff009 | i just installed a new motherboard/proc on my machine, and now every time i try to boot, it hangs up at, "mount-cache hash table entries" |
| 02:11.27 | dr0p | now for a question to blow your mind, is there anyway to emulate a second mouse click in X using an iMac with it's crappy 1 button mouse |
| 02:11.29 | underdog | maher: that's actually a good friend of mine. that doesn't talk about using external screens |
| 02:11.33 | maher | jeff009: did you change the cpu type by doing this? |
| 02:11.39 | Guerin | jeff009: tried booting to a livecd or something? tried booting to recovery? |
| 02:11.42 | ambrose | apt-get update times out; when I comment out the "security" lines from the sources.list, it completes. I'm running stable (on an i386 and on a sparc ultra 1). Has something changed with security.debian.org? I'm also using apt-proxy. I haven't changed the sources.list (apart from commenting the security entry) |
| 02:11.45 | maher | underdog: but he has some info about how to talk to the fn keys |
| 02:11.53 | Guerin | maher: ah, good point. |
| 02:11.57 | jeff009 | no, just to the same harddrive i always have |
| 02:11.58 | Coweater | ok thanks |
| 02:12.11 | ke6isf | !916/2 |
| 02:12.11 | dpkg | 458 |
| 02:12.16 | Guerin | dr0p: #debianppc ;; i think you can hold command or whetever it's called |
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| 02:12.30 | dr0p | thanks man |
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| 02:12.45 | jeff009 | maher went from a p3 to a p4 |
| 02:12.48 | Guerin | !fuck dr0p |
| 02:12.49 | ke6isf | dr0p: why did you do that? |
| 02:12.51 | dr0p | er whoops |
| 02:12.54 | dr0p | i ment to part |
| 02:12.55 | dr0p | sorry |
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| 02:13.04 | dr0p | i guess /p in bitchx doesn't mean /part |
| 02:13.08 | Guerin | haha |
| 02:13.14 | dr0p | honestly i'm sorry guys |
| 02:13.16 | ke6isf | !pal dr0p |
| 02:13.18 | maher | jeff009: can you boot the debian install disc or a live cd? |
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| 02:13.23 | dr0p | :~( |
| 02:13.31 | ke6isf | dr0p: Easy mistake. |
| 02:13.33 | dr0p | i'll brb after i get my ppc issuse figured out |
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| 02:13.41 | jeff009 | maher: dont have one |
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| 02:14.11 | jeff009 | maher: i thought debian could handle a swap like that without reformatting or anything |
| 02:14.27 | Guerin | jeff009: it can, typically. Something else is amiss. |
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| 02:14.55 | charon | I'm trying to mount a vfat partition so every one can write to it but I can't seem to get the options right... can some one help? |
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| 02:15.20 | kl0ck | charon: just get it krunk |
| 02:15.21 | jeff009 | Guerin: i had a knowledgeable friend of mine set the cmos for the board |
| 02:15.21 | SlammerXP | evening kids |
| 02:15.31 | charon | krunk? |
| 02:15.35 | kl0ck | yeah |
| 02:15.36 | kl0ck | with a k |
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| 02:15.48 | maher | jeff009: yes - it should just work - but it doesn't - so something is wrong - but its hard to know if it doesn't boot at all |
| 02:15.50 | abrotman | !tell charon about vfatrw |
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| 02:15.57 | charon | thanks |
| 02:16.00 | jeff009 | Guerin: wait, now its saying , |
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| 02:16.10 | dr0p | ok no help in there, they are all sleeping |
| 02:16.15 | maher | jeff009: try a toms root boot if it has a floppy drive |
| 02:16.22 | dr0p | i'm watching open water on tv, this movie is nuts |
| 02:16.28 | jeff009 | "<0>Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt" |
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| 02:16.37 | whatever | yay for kernel panic! |
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| 02:16.44 | jeff009 | "In interrupt handler - not syncing" |
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| 02:17.18 | LightVision | I found a file called ".sweden.swp". What is this exactly? |
| 02:17.37 | maher | jeff009: if it won't boot to anything there is probably something wrong with your mb / bios |
| 02:17.50 | whatever | LightVision: temporary swap file made by some editor |
| 02:18.05 | kl0ck | LightVision: the country of sweden is stored in swap |
| 02:18.06 | LightVision | whatever: safe to delete? |
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| 02:18.21 | jeff009 | maher: it goes to lilo and all |
| 02:18.22 | Coweater | LightVision: open it up and see what's inside |
| 02:18.28 | whatever | LightVision: if no one else is using it, I think its safe. |
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| 02:18.55 | Guerin | jeff009: running at a different clock speed than previously? |
| 02:19.03 | LightVision | whatever: thanks |
| 02:19.05 | Guerin | jeff009: 133 vs 100, forex? |
| 02:19.08 | rpm-e-star | Anyone here got RHEL3 + yum installed? |
| 02:19.10 | LightVision | Coweater: ok |
| 02:19.15 | whatever | lightvision: np |
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| 02:19.20 | maher | jeff009: try booting from a different kernel - i.e. from a boot disc or live cd |
| 02:19.28 | ambrose | Ah, nevermind. I took the non-us reference out of the /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy.conf file and it completes. |
| 02:19.35 | Guerin | rpm-e-star: wtf does this have to do with debian? |
| 02:19.35 | jeff009 | Guerin: no, its a 1.4ghz proc, and its clocking at 1.39 |
| 02:20.39 | SlammerXP | well, after a long battle against onconcievable stupidity, and despite ATI's best efforts, I've finally got 3d acceleration working in debian amd64 |
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| 02:20.40 | Guerin | jeff009: but the clock speed ... is it 14x100 or somethingx133; and what was the clock speed of the old chip? |
| 02:20.40 | Ryushin | I can't remember off hand, but there use to be a quick build debian package program that you can run in a source dir and it would build a deb package out of it. Anyone remember what program that was? I thought it was something like chkinstall |
| 02:20.41 | Guerin | jeff009: i'm wondering whether you've moved from a 100mhz p3 to a 133 p4, and your ram is freaking out |
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| 02:21.25 | jeff009 | Guerin: it was a 750mhz |
| 02:21.29 | maher | Rydekull: dpkg-buildpackage for debian sources, dh_make for simple non-debian sources |
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| 02:21.54 | jeff009 | Guerin: what did you need to know about the clock speed? |
| 02:22.09 | maher | Ryushin: dpkg-buildpackage for debian sources, dh_make for simple non-debian sources |
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| 02:22.30 | concept10 | SlammerXP: I stopped overclocking my video card when I reached 11000FPS |
| 02:22.45 | Ryushin | maher: That was it. Thank you. |
| 02:22.47 | Guerin | jeff009: look at the bios clock speeds of both chips. Compare. |
| 02:22.48 | maher | jeff009: there coould be a hundred reasons why the new mb/cpu combination are unhappy - start by seeing if anything will boot on the box |
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| 02:23.33 | jeff009 | maher: nothing to boot, no blank cd's |
| 02:23.53 | maher | jeff009: do you have a floppy? go out to the store and buy some... |
| 02:24.11 | Ryushin | I've never made a true debian package. Is there a easy to to drop in the source of a new package into a old versions debian package. Essentially I want to take a mythtv package and drop in the latest svn source and build a package out of it. |
| 02:24.16 | ambrose | argh, no it didn't work (I took non-us out of apt-proxy.conf, but didn't put security back in sources.list). it's timing out again |
| 02:24.29 | rpm-e-star | Guerin: I am doing research. I want to know how many debian users use RH. |
| 02:24.31 | jeff009 | maher: ironically enough, the machine im on doesnt havea a floppy drive to write toa disk with |
| 02:24.45 | jeff009 | maher: need to borrow company laptop.. |
| 02:25.09 | maher | Ryushin: if the source is very similar you might get away with just replacing the upstream src in the debian source with the new upstream |
| 02:25.48 | maher | jeff009: if the machine doesn't boot then you can't fix what's wrong only using that machine |
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| 02:26.06 | Ryushin | They should be very, very close. But I tried to replace the source and it didn't work :( |
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| 02:26.32 | Ryushin | I guess I just have to learn how to build a deb package. |
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| 02:27.31 | sward | Ryushin: checkinstall, or something like? |
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| 02:28.09 | caranthir | I want to add to modules to load at boot time but modules.conf said don't edit directly, how should I do it? |
| 02:28.18 | caranthir | to add two I meant |
| 02:28.21 | SlammerXP | caranthir: /etc/modules |
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| 02:29.10 | caranthir | doh, so easy, thanks SlammerXP |
| 02:29.21 | Ryushin | sward: That was it. I kept thinking it was chkinstall. So close, yet so far. |
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| 02:34.16 | liu7 | I just compiled a module and Im having problems getting it attached to a device |
| 02:34.50 | liu7 | the driver loads, but when I cat /proc/bus/usb/devices, it says "Drive=(none)" |
| 02:34.52 | liu7 | any ideas? |
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| 02:36.30 | liu7 | driver |
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| 02:40.38 | Guerin | liu7: my idea is that you give us some details |
| 02:40.46 | punkki | YUIII |
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| 02:41.17 | ke6isf | punkki: gesundheit. |
| 02:41.34 | liu7 | Im trying to get a wireless card to work |
| 02:41.38 | liu7 | it's a z1211 |
| 02:41.49 | liu7 | I've downloaded the default debian kernel source/headers |
| 02:41.53 | liu7 | the module made fine |
| 02:42.01 | liu7 | I modprobe it, and a message comes up |
| 02:42.12 | Guerin | i know nothing about wireless |
| 02:42.30 | maher | liu7: is this one of those usb devices that doesn't conform to the usb spec so youhave to patch your kernel to get it to work? |
| 02:42.35 | liu7 | usbcore: regisited new driver zd1211 |
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| 02:42.55 | astronut | is there any tool to defragment a fat32 filesystem? |
| 02:43.08 | liu7 | i dont believe so ma3x |
| 02:43.09 | liu7 | maher |
| 02:43.10 | punkki | I KNOW IF U'R CRAZY |
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| 02:43.41 | ke6isf | Yep. Still Sunday. |
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| 02:44.15 | maher | liu7: if you unplug replug the usb device does anything show up in the logs? |
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| 02:44.41 | liu7 | yep |
| 02:44.48 | maher | liu7: what? |
| 02:45.04 | ke6isf | !tell liu7 -about enter |
| 02:45.20 | liu7 | usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2; usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 |
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| 02:45.50 | maher | liu7: does it show up in lsusb |
| 02:45.54 | liu7 | yep |
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| 02:45.58 | liu7 | it did before as well |
| 02:46.07 | maher | liu7: does it show up in iwconfig |
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| 02:46.22 | orangey | hey all! |
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| 02:46.30 | liu7 | no |
| 02:46.31 | liu7 | :/ |
| 02:46.33 | orangey | Is there an easy way to undelete files in an ext2fs? |
| 02:46.43 | orangey | preferably where I can select which file to undelete? |
| 02:46.52 | maher | orangey: yes apt-cache search undelete |
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| 02:47.03 | liu7 | and when I cat /proc/bus/usb/devices it shows Driver=(none) |
| 02:47.08 | maher | liu7: are you in #flood? |
| 02:47.40 | liu7 | nah sorry |
| 02:47.40 | lemur | Okay, my question is twofold: How to get a) Korean fonts and b) how to get Korean input method |
| 02:48.16 | Guerin | lemur: apt-cache search korean |
| 02:48.23 | lemur | Guerin: thank you |
| 02:48.39 | Guerin | lemur: the font package you want is xfonts-asian; there are cjk input mechanisms too |
| 02:48.59 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 02:49.10 | maher | ke6isf: for ext2 for a long time - doesn't work on ext3 |
| 02:49.15 | ke6isf | maher: oh... |
| 02:49.35 | ke6isf | maher: I presume that it doesn't work for reiser either? |
| 02:49.36 | lemur | hamm, I see xfonts packages...none called asian, but some related to korean |
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| 02:49.54 | maher | ke6isf: it only works on ext2 |
| 02:50.03 | ke6isf | Aw buggers. |
| 02:50.07 | ke6isf | Oh well. |
| 02:50.10 | Guerrrrin | lemur: it may have changed |
| 02:50.16 | Guerrrrin | lemur: but you have the idea now |
| 02:50.17 | ambrose | Well, I guess it's an apt-proxy problem. Pointing sources.list straight to security.debian.org works just fine. |
| 02:50.21 | lemur | Guerrrrin: yes, thanks |
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| 02:50.50 | acid-trip | ok how to i set up exim4 on sarge to send and receive emails |
| 02:51.18 | tengulre | I like Debian OS!!! :) |
| 02:51.20 | xbm-x | does linux comes with a firewall? |
| 02:51.26 | dogmeat | is there a way to scroll up my console boot messages? redhat does it with ctrl-shift up arrow |
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| 02:51.33 | tengulre | xbm-x: yes! |
| 02:51.57 | ke6isf | dogmeat: Shift-PageUp |
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| 02:52.14 | OddyWann | brasileiro na area? |
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| 02:52.21 | xbm-x | tengulre: is its does where is it i can't see? |
| 02:52.30 | tengulre | dogmeat: cat /var/log/messages | more |
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| 02:53.27 | tengulre | xbm-x: use 'iptables -L' to list all firewall rules! |
| 02:53.28 | OddyWann | any brasilian at room? |
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| 02:53.47 | Guerrrrin | OddyWann: #debian-br is a better bet |
| 02:53.59 | ke6isf | !br |
| 02:53.59 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:54.00 | dr0p | ~/.blackbox/styles doesn't exist.. i have no menu's in bb, how do i fix that? |
| 02:54.03 | DrGamut | Anyone here particularly experienced with DVD Authoring? |
| 02:54.03 | dogmeat | ke6isf: thanks, but it doesnt scroll very far |
| 02:54.07 | tengulre | Guerrrrin: I agree u!;) |
| 02:54.21 | ke6isf | dogmeat: There's a buffer ceiling, I don't have any idea how to set it. Try dmesg as well. |
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| 02:54.42 | OddyWann | tanks a lot! |
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| 02:54.52 | ke6isf | tanks? where? |
| 02:55.10 | Guerrrrin | hah |
| 02:55.38 | mwilson | dr0p: How do you fix it? Create them yourself? |
| 02:55.42 | ke6isf | dr0p: Blackbox doesn't really come with menus. It's all accessible through right-mouse-button. |
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| 02:56.05 | soto | anyone knows how to hide ip? |
| 02:56.11 | mwilson | ke6isf: Which is a menu, and one it certainly comes with, especially since it ships a Debian menu-method. |
| 02:56.17 | maher | dr0p: do you have the debian menus stuff installed? the styles should be in /usr/share/balckbox orsomehting |
| 02:56.24 | SlammerXP | soto: can you be less specific? |
| 02:56.33 | soto | why |
| 02:56.44 | ke6isf | mwilson: True, but note that most users equate menu with an available pull down menu. |
| 02:56.47 | Guerrrrin | soto: hide it? how? |
| 02:56.51 | xbm-x | why can't i use debian as a boot cd? so i don't have to install! |
| 02:56.58 | SlammerXP | soto: because the chances of that question being answered are zero unless you expand a little. |
| 02:56.59 | mwilson | SlammerXP: He's a thief. Earlier he wanted someone to give him a VMWare serial number... now he wants to hide. |
| 02:57.03 | ke6isf | soto: Please explain. What do you mean by "hide ip"? |
| 02:57.28 | soto | guerrrrin i want to hide my ip here in irc.how do i do that? |
| 02:57.34 | ke6isf | mwilson: Yep. It's Sunday. =^_^= |
| 02:57.38 | SlammerXP | mwilson: maybe he wants to hide his vmware IP from those evil capitalist pigs who ask for money for their software. |
| 02:57.43 | SlammerXP | the bastards. |
| 02:58.08 | SlammerXP | amazing. firefox didn't break horribly |
| 02:58.09 | xbm-x | its sunday and i'm testing windows vista that just come out and still i love linux |
| 02:58.23 | SlammerXP | linux sucks. |
| 02:58.33 | soto | u always wrong slammerXP |
| 02:58.34 | ke6isf | All Hardware Sucks. All Software Sucks. |
| 02:58.36 | mwilson | xbm-x: Who'd you steal the copy of Vista from? |
| 02:58.38 | xbm-x | so what you doing here? |
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| 02:58.57 | Guerrrrin | soto: use tor, run rdns on your machine, or ask for a hostmask - see http://freenode.net for instructions |
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| 02:59.07 | SlammerXP | xbm-x: at 5am? trolling, obviously. |
| 02:59.09 | soto | well just installed this program |
| 02:59.12 | soto | when i run it |
| 02:59.18 | soto | i got an error message |
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| 02:59.21 | soto | that says |
| 02:59.23 | ke6isf | SlammerXP: Well, at least you're honest about it. |
| 02:59.27 | ke6isf | !tell soto -about enter |
| 02:59.36 | soto | Sep 18 23:52:06.286 [notice] Tor v0.1.0.14. This is experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity. |
| 02:59.36 | soto | Sep 18 23:52:06.287 [warn] /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (0). You must fix this to proceed. |
| 02:59.36 | soto | Sep 18 23:52:06.287 [err] options_act(): Couldn't access/create private data directory /var/lib/tor |
| 02:59.36 | soto | Sep 18 23:52:06.287 [err] init_from_config(): Acting on config options left us in a broken state. Dying. |
| 02:59.37 | *** kick/#debian [soto!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 02:59.38 | xbm-x | Well i got my skills i can download anything i'm not telling noting to you guys |
| 02:59.57 | Guerrrrin | xbm-x: because we don't have any skilz |
| 02:59.59 | Guerrrrin | no sir |
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| 03:00.06 | soto | sorry for the long txt guys |
| 03:00.07 | mwilson | Then we have the morons who're PROUD of being kiddies. |
| 03:00.09 | ke6isf | !tell soto -about flood |
| 03:00.09 | SlammerXP | soto: you forgot to read the focs. |
| 03:00.11 | soto | text |
| 03:00.14 | SlammerXP | err docs |
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| 03:00.38 | SlammerXP | you also forgot to read the error message. |
| 03:00.43 | Guerrrrin | i reckon xbm-x has just got the wrong end of the Talk Like a Pirate Day idea |
| 03:00.47 | soto | what is that supposed to be guerrrin? |
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| 03:01.04 | SlammerXP | is it TLAPD already? |
| 03:01.13 | dogmeat | soto: you can use an anonimizer service to hide your ip |
| 03:01.13 | SlammerXP | that came around (again) fast |
| 03:01.33 | bcc | is there a way to move files by inode numbers? |
| 03:01.36 | soto | where do i find one? |
| 03:01.40 | xbm-x | hey i'm not a pirate dumb ass |
| 03:01.44 | Guerrrrin | soto: one WHAT? |
| 03:01.51 | dogmeat | soto: google anonymizer |
| 03:02.00 | Guerrrrin | xbm-x: oh, i believe you, too. |
| 03:02.03 | Guerrrrin | really. |
| 03:02.10 | soto | ok dogmeat.thanks |
| 03:02.15 | Phated | SlammerXP: Aye. |
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| 03:02.19 | soto | lol |
| 03:02.23 | SlammerXP | soto: does your Mummy know you use the internet when she's not around? |
| 03:02.28 | xbm-x | Guerrrrin: what you want from me uh? |
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| 03:02.41 | ke6isf | Isn't TLAPD tomorrow? |
| 03:02.42 | SlammerXP | Phated! you peerless hunk of womanhood, you. |
| 03:02.43 | xbm-x | tell people about me well thank you |
| 03:02.52 | Phated | SlammerXP: Arrr. |
| 03:02.54 | soto | SlammerXP why u want to know about my life |
| 03:02.57 | soto | are u gay? |
| 03:02.59 | Guerrrrin | xbm-x: i have enough skilz to get everything I need, thanks. |
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| 03:03.02 | SlammerXP | soto: yes, are you? |
| 03:03.07 | soto | no |
| 03:03.11 | SlammerXP | you sure? |
| 03:03.17 | soto | pretty sure |
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| 03:03.22 | Phated | REALLY sure? |
| 03:03.30 | soto | and don´t talk to gays.bye |
| 03:03.32 | Phated | This be not the kind of thing ye jest about, matey. |
| 03:03.34 | ke6isf | Wow, I'm having too much fun with watching this to summon ops. |
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| 03:03.43 | Guerrrrin | soto: why not? |
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| 03:03.46 | SlammerXP | Phated: to be completely sure, he'd have to have heterosexual sex. that's not likely to happen any time soon. |
| 03:03.49 | xbm-x | Guerrrrin: well thats good for you man |
| 03:03.54 | soto | guerrrin i´m joking |
| 03:03.59 | Guerrrrin | xbm-x: you needn't tell me. |
| 03:04.05 | xbm-x | sorry |
| 03:04.05 | Phated | SlammerXP: Aye, that be truth. Rum all around! |
| 03:04.07 | Guerrrrin | soto: you think it's a joking matter!? |
| 03:04.15 | soto | i have nothing against them,while far away from me |
| 03:04.16 | maher | soto: doesn't your homophobia make life awkward when you can't talk to 10% of the population? |
| 03:04.17 | scarynetworkguy | Why is there no rum? |
| 03:04.27 | xoz | are we still in debian? oh, it's sunday. |
| 03:04.28 | ke6isf | !rum scarynetworkguy |
| 03:04.30 | maher | scarynetworkguy: i drank it all |
| 03:04.30 | dpkg | scarynetworkguy: But the rum is never gone! |
| 03:04.33 | Phated | maher: Ye sure it be only 10%? |
| 03:04.37 | Phated | xoz: It's TLAPD! |
| 03:04.42 | ke6isf | scarynetworkguy: Nobody's ever created it. Now get to work and do it! |
| 03:04.43 | soto | as i said,i have nothing against them |
| 03:04.50 | SlammerXP | technically it's ITLAPD |
| 03:04.54 | ke6isf | no, wait, there it is. |
| 03:04.55 | Phated | True. |
| 03:04.58 | SlammerXP | dog's breath |
| 03:05.05 | ke6isf | SlammerXP: What does the I stand for? |
| 03:05.12 | Guerrrrin | soto: you say that, but you also specify "as long as they're far away", which puts the lie. |
| 03:05.13 | Phated | International. |
| 03:05.14 | maher | Phated: that's the estimate i hear most often - i've never done any systematic investigations... |
| 03:05.14 | SlammerXP | ke6isf: International |
| 03:05.19 | ke6isf | SlammerXP: Ah. |
| 03:05.24 | Phated | maher: Ah. Fair enough. |
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| 03:05.41 | thecoolestcow | why can't i modify stuff on my mounted NTFS windows drives? |
| 03:05.51 | maher | Phated: but you never hear estimates for how many people are just totally asexual either... |
| 03:05.52 | SlammerXP | I take some of the credit for ITLAPD. just a small bit. |
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| 03:05.54 | SimonRaven | because |
| 03:05.55 | Phated | Because NTFS be not safe under Linux, matey. |
| 03:05.56 | xbm-x | jesus freaking people from china and japan all trying to take me down i have not idea why? |
| 03:06.05 | thecoolestcow | sucks. |
| 03:06.07 | Phated | maher: Yeh, true. |
| 03:06.19 | Guerrrrin | thecoolestcow: because microsoft won't release the specifications or documentation of NTFS, and free software hackers have been unable to reverse-engineer it. |
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| 03:06.28 | SlammerXP | thecoolestcow: do you enjoy reconstructing files byte by byte using a hex editor on a raw disk? |
| 03:06.34 | soto | Guerrrin the reason i like gays is that we men have more opportunities with women! |
| 03:06.38 | thecoolestcow | slammerxp: you don't? |
| 03:06.42 | Phated | Arrr, that be work even the brawniest seafarer fear! |
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| 03:06.49 | soto | got it |
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| 03:06.55 | xbm-x | soto: man thats so gay |
| 03:06.57 | SlammerXP | thecoolestcow: I prefer masturbating furiously to Pirate Porn |
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| 03:07.05 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 03:07.15 | soto | xbm-x whats up gay lord |
| 03:07.18 | SlammerXP | Phated: did I mention I'd cut all my hair off? |
| 03:07.30 | Phated | SlammerXP: DUDE! Pix! |
| 03:07.33 | maher | soto: keep your homophobia to yourself or you will get kicked |
| 03:07.36 | nicoal | how do I disable the update-grub altoptions? I tried double commenting the line, but it still adds in the extra grub option |
| 03:07.39 | xbm-x | soto: how old are you kid go to sleep bed time |
| 03:07.42 | soto | see guerrin,i talk to gays |
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| 03:07.46 | soto | i was joking |
| 03:08.02 | SlammerXP | phated: http://www.hinterlands.org/me.jpg |
| 03:08.03 | thecoolestcow | slammerxp: oh, i thought that was a given. |
| 03:08.11 | Dewi | I seriously doubt that 10% statistic. |
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| 03:08.27 | SlammerXP | Dewi: yeah, way too low. |
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| 03:08.31 | Phated | It has to be a lot more. |
| 03:08.32 | Phated | Arrr. |
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| 03:08.34 | Dewi | SlammerXP: I think it's a bit high. |
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| 03:08.39 | Phated | SlammerXP: Duuuuude. |
| 03:08.45 | Phated | SlammerXP: 's not bad. |
| 03:08.51 | Guerrrrin | soto: haha |
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| 03:09.11 | SlammerXP | Phated: I look like an escapee from a saudi detention camp |
| 03:09.11 | orangey | hey all! |
| 03:09.18 | xbm-x | wow 667 people |
| 03:09.19 | Dewi | SlammerXP: I mean, it depends how it's counted |
| 03:09.24 | SlammerXP | kinda fucks with my Captain Silver impression |
| 03:09.27 | walterbrunswick | One more q... if a system came pre-packaged with MS Windows XP will this in any way affect the installation of Debian on a new HDD on that motherboard? |
| 03:09.28 | Phated | SlammerXP: Arrr, that be it. |
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| 03:09.37 | Dewi | SlammerXP: for instance I don't think I've met anyone who could resist Johnny Depp |
| 03:09.39 | ke6isf | walterbrunswick: Probably not. |
| 03:09.40 | Phated | SlammerXP: chuck on a bandanna, matey, it be doin' wonders. |
| 03:09.42 | SlammerXP | xbm-x: 66.7 people here are homosexual |
| 03:09.43 | Phated | Dewi: HUBBA |
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| 03:09.49 | orangey | I'm having a kde problem.. everytime i start any (KDE) application, kmail also starts! Any ideas how I could troubleshoot this? |
| 03:10.00 | thecoolestcow | heh sucks orangey |
| 03:10.01 | walterbrunswick | Good. Now I'll be able to sleep in peace, g'night (: |
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| 03:10.10 | orangey | thecoolestcow: yes sir : ) |
| 03:10.16 | xbm-x | -.- |
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| 03:10.41 | Phated | I think it be said landlubber's usual preference, eh? Besides, that man Depp, he be mildly gay-looking himself, aye? |
| 03:10.51 | xbm-x | ^_^ |
| 03:10.53 | Phated | Oops. Sorry, went into Canuckian on the first line there. |
| 03:10.55 | ke6isf | Phated: Not so much gay as fey. |
| 03:11.02 | Phated | ke6isf: HUBBA |
| 03:11.07 | SlammerXP | I'm crossing lots of items off my TODO list |
| 03:11.14 | xbm-x | ^_^ my install of windows vista is done now all i have to do is delete |
| 03:11.15 | SlammerXP | * Cut off most of your hair |
| 03:11.18 | SlammerXP | * Move to norway |
| 03:11.25 | SlammerXP | * Taunt soto mercilessly |
| 03:11.28 | ke6isf | Forget Norway! Go to Kenya! |
| 03:11.35 | Guerrrrin | heh |
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| 03:11.41 | ke6isf | They have lions! And tigers! |
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| 03:11.52 | xbm-x | i love debian so much |
| 03:11.55 | SlammerXP | there are no tigers in kenya |
| 03:11.57 | thingfish | tigers? in kenya? |
| 03:12.18 | ke6isf | thingfish: Well, OK, only according to the guy who did Badgers. |
| 03:12.32 | SlammerXP | 534 upgraded, 37 newly installed, 20 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 03:12.32 | SlammerXP | Need to get 381MB of archives. |
| 03:12.33 | thingfish | hehe ok |
| 03:12.39 | SlammerXP | ahh the joys of unstable and ISDN |
| 03:12.54 | ke6isf | ISDN. It Still Does Nothing. |
| 03:13.05 | SlammerXP | It Still Doesn't Network |
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| 03:13.52 | SlammerXP | did soto bugger off yet? the cowardly landlubber. |
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| 03:13.55 | nicoal | it's slower den NT |
| 03:13.55 | _keroppi_ | When I type "dpkg -l gcc" I get version "4.0.1-3", but when I type "apt-get install gcc=4.0.1-3" it says there is no such version. I'm trying to install version 4.0.0-1, same problem. Anyone know how to type the version string properly? |
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| 03:14.51 | deadcat | maher: zd1211-source is in sid (= fuckers... now i have to buy that shit again. it works on my friend's machine. |
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| 03:15.27 | [XBM-X] | have you guys seen the news? windows vista have so much error that is making people change to linux |
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| 03:15.40 | SimonRaven | good |
| 03:15.45 | maher | deadcat: yeah but see flood for someone who can't get such a device to work on unstable |
| 03:15.55 | maher | deadcat: s/unstable/stable/ |
| 03:15.56 | Guerrrrin | !wgaf [XBM-X] |
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| 03:16.11 | ambrose | This url: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7080062&forum_id=7622 says maybe apt-proxy is not sending a properly formatted request, but actually tcpdump shows that apt-proxy is not forwarding on any request. The apt-proxy log says "[client] have active fetcher:"... I wonder how I can "reset" apt-proxy so it will stop thinking there is a fetch in progress? ... Arrr. |
| 03:16.11 | SlammerXP | [XBM-X]: I can give you the telephone number of the people who care. |
| 03:16.14 | SlammerXP | you can tell them. |
| 03:16.17 | SimonRaven | Guerrrrin: POed? =) |
| 03:16.21 | deadcat | maher: oh.. well. (= the packages only in sid (= maybe get the zd1211-{source,firmware} from sid |
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| 03:16.28 | [XBM-X] | lol |
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| 03:16.31 | Guerrrrin | SimonRaven: not at all. |
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| 03:16.39 | SimonRaven | mr. rrrr |
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| 03:16.47 | [XBM-X] | well i'm out here |
| 03:16.58 | _keroppi_ | How would I install gcc version 4.0.0-1 instead of 4.0.1-3, which is the latest version in unstable? |
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| 03:16.58 | Guerrrrin | SimonRaven: TLAP, ye scurvy dog |
| 03:17.15 | SimonRaven | ar, matey |
| 03:17.26 | Phated | Arrrrr, me mates'll have your skin for this, yer filthy rat! |
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| 03:17.38 | peterS | oh, it's *that* time of year |
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| 03:17.45 | SlammerXP | Phated: Avast, me proud beauty! Wanna know why my Roger is so Jolly? |
| 03:17.46 | Phated | ARR! peterS! |
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| 03:17.54 | SlammerXP | peterS: Oh No It Isn't! [tm] |
| 03:17.59 | Phated | SlammerXP: Arrr, tell this tale of ye fine Roger! |
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| 03:18.11 | peterS | ph473d: j3ah |
| 03:18.17 | Phated | Arr! |
| 03:18.26 | SlammerXP | Phated: How would you like to scrape the whelks off my rudder? |
| 03:18.27 | jill | has any one had trobles with o clock starting up? |
| 03:18.31 | peterS | there is no tlap on my side of the world |
| 03:18.35 | peterS | not for a couple of hours |
| 03:18.42 | Phated | SlammerXP: Arrr, only if ye scrape the whelks of my rudder, *winkwink* |
| 03:18.46 | peterS | I'll load my l33t filter script then |
| 03:18.55 | peterS | Phated: now that was just dirty |
| 03:18.57 | SlammerXP | l33t pirates |
| 03:19.02 | Phated | Arrr! |
| 03:19.10 | Phated | |:) |
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| 03:19.15 | Phated | Bandannnaaaa. |
| 03:19.23 | SimonRaven | banana |
| 03:19.35 | Phated | Arrr! Mate SimonRaven knows his potassium! |
| 03:19.43 | cheal | _keroppi_: you'd need to find a .deb of that version, perhaps on snapshot.d.net |
| 03:19.48 | SlammerXP | h3Y d3\\\d5!! p4sS m3 d4 c4t-0-9 tA1lZZZ!!! |
| 03:19.52 | Phated | Arrrr, bob2 be shanghaied. |
| 03:20.00 | SimonRaven | bob2: a few bananas strung together :) |
| 03:20.07 | _keroppi_ | cheal: Can't you just type a version string in to "apt-get install gcc=[some_number]" ? |
| 03:20.25 | scarynetworkguy | SlammerXP: Arrr. Share the script with your mateys you bilgerat. |
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| 03:20.48 | peterS | SlammerXP: d00d j00 t1l|< lIk3 4 p1R47e 2? |
| 03:20.59 | SimonRaven | arr, my friends, we shall go a-hunting fer tresuuure, arrrr |
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| 03:21.19 | Phated | Arrr. |
| 03:21.23 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: http://p12n.org/tmp/tlap.pl for irssi |
| 03:21.26 | xoz | bush should join this channel |
| 03:21.30 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: Arrr. |
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| 03:22.25 | ke6isf | xoz: What, the president? |
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| 03:22.34 | SimonRaven | no, his bush |
| 03:22.45 | Phated | DUDE. |
| 03:22.50 | xoz | ke6isf: he talks pirate all the time dude |
| 03:22.56 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 03:22.58 | deadcat | peterS: your xwall dont work (= |
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| 03:23.15 | ke6isf | xoz: I always thought he talked 'id10t' myself. =^_^= |
| 03:23.19 | peterS | deadcat: no? it worked last I tested it, which was shortly after I wrote it |
| 03:23.22 | SlammerXP | peterS: the other half are still recovering from looking at my handsome features. |
| 03:23.27 | peterS | SlammerXP: no doubt |
| 03:23.30 | Phated | Arrrr! |
| 03:23.37 | Phated | Aye, that be true. |
| 03:23.47 | xoz | ke6isf: he might be the spiritual leader of tlapd |
| 03:23.49 | deadcat | peterS: you mean it suppose to message everyone's X right? didnt work on my laptop |
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| 03:24.14 | peterS | deadcat: it's supposed to see who's got $DISPLAY set, and run an xmessage process on each DISPLAY |
| 03:24.28 | SlammerXP | could debian kindly start using bzip compression for packages, thanks. |
| 03:24.28 | SimonRaven | deadcat: irssi url grabber scripts of various sorts |
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| 03:24.34 | cheal | _keroppi_: not if the version you specify doesn't exist in your APT sources |
| 03:24.37 | SlammerXP | then my last 4 weeks on ISDN will be less painful |
| 03:24.38 | ke6isf | SlammerXP: Post a bug. |
| 03:24.39 | deadcat | peterS: but should they have perm to write to everyone's DISPLAY? |
| 03:24.41 | SimonRaven | SlammerXP: it does already, in sid |
| 03:24.50 | deadcat | SimonRaven: ? |
| 03:24.52 | peterS | deadcat: you have to do this as root, then it reads your ~/.Xauthority file |
| 03:25.00 | SlammerXP | SimonRaven: not the amd64 port, it seems |
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| 03:25.10 | SimonRaven | stable? |
| 03:25.13 | _keroppi_ | cheal: Is there any way for apt to list the version that are available? |
| 03:25.17 | SlammerXP | SimonRaven: unstable |
| 03:25.27 | vineet | _keroppi_: apt-cache policy |
| 03:25.31 | _keroppi_ | cheal: The syntax "apt-get install gcc=4.0.1-3" won't even work, and that's the version that's already installed... |
| 03:25.34 | SimonRaven | hm. arch-specific, or a bug |
| 03:25.45 | deadcat | peterS: ah... (= |
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| 03:28.00 | monggapchiki | ada |
| 03:28.04 | monggapchiki | hi |
| 03:28.15 | SimonRaven | kwe kwe |
| 03:28.23 | parkkimoko | we |
| 03:28.26 | parkkimoko | waht |
| 03:28.27 | cheal | _keroppi_: that looks like a bug, although it can't "work" much anyway |
| 03:28.28 | parkkimoko | what |
| 03:28.30 | parkkimoko | ? |
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| 03:29.11 | looneybird_77590 | is there a site where i can get diagnostic and tweaking programs? been searching for a while but haven't found what i am really looking for |
| 03:29.16 | litage | which manufacturer would you guys suggest for a 24-port managed switch? |
| 03:29.40 | vineet | litage: HP are decent |
| 03:29.42 | SlammerXP | litage: hp procurve kit is nice. |
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| 03:30.14 | litage | vineet, SlammerXP: aren't HPs networking products $$$? |
| 03:30.35 | SlammerXP | litage: they're not cheap, no |
| 03:30.35 | peterS | litage: you can't get managed switches without $$$ |
| 03:30.38 | vineet | litage: cheaper than cisco, but yeah, not cheap |
| 03:30.46 | litage | what about NetGear? |
| 03:30.52 | vineet | litage: we had a couple of those, they were crap |
| 03:31.03 | SlammerXP | litage: rubbish |
| 03:31.09 | litage | NetGear's got a 24-port managed switch for $385AUD |
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| 03:31.16 | litage | heh really? why is netgear crap? |
| 03:31.20 | SimonRaven | oh good, some other people who think they're BS |
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| 03:31.36 | vineet | litage: just those "managed" switches -- caused some problems on our network |
| 03:31.40 | SlammerXP | litage: poor quality, crap management software |
| 03:31.40 | DrGamut | Anyone here particularly experienced with DVD Authoring? |
| 03:31.56 | vineet | litage: their cheap stuff is good, but the managed stuff doesn't come anywhere near the "real" stuff |
| 03:32.34 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 03:32.34 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:32.46 | vineet | litage: of course it depends on your needs and budget, but at my office, they were more trouble than good |
| 03:33.50 | SimonRaven | alpha? |
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| 03:33.55 | SimonRaven | ask peterS |
| 03:34.04 | peterS | ok here's the story |
| 03:34.05 | SlammerXP | unlikely. |
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| 03:34.07 | vineet | not the stable one |
| 03:34.36 | peterS | subversion 1.2.23 was NMU'd by some random dude because we didn't have it out the day it was released |
| 03:34.47 | SlammerXP | NMU'd? |
| 03:34.55 | peterS | non-maintainer-upload |
| 03:34.56 | SimonRaven | non-maintainer upload |
| 03:35.04 | SlammerXP | where did you hide his body? |
| 03:35.08 | peterS | we couldn't use the same .orig.tar.gz tarball as he NMUd, for technical reasons involving, among other things, non-free documentation that needed to be ripped out |
| 03:35.28 | bob2 | peterS: 1.2.3 doesn't appear in the changelog |
| 03:35.36 | peterS | so we couldn't call ours 1.2.3-1 because you can't change a subversion_1.2.3.orig.tar.gz that's already in the archive |
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| 03:35.49 | peterS | bob2: we didn't acknowledge the NMU. there was nothing in it worth salvaging. 9: |
| 03:35.52 | peterS | (: |
| 03:36.01 | bob2 | zing |
| 03:36.05 | litage | thanks for those tips guys |
| 03:36.20 | peterS | we're kind of hoping the world forgets the 1.2.1 and 1.2.3 NMUs (same guy) entirely |
| 03:36.28 | SlammerXP | i lack things to subversion these days |
| 03:36.30 | SlammerXP | boohoo |
| 03:37.02 | peterS | we've actually got a 1.2.3b-1 in the pipeline, if upstream doesn't release a 1.2.4 first. we've repacked the tarball *again*. |
| 03:37.16 | SlammerXP | peterS: kill him, burn the corpse, have the ashes chemically transformed into a material suitable for making a ITLAPD badge out of. |
| 03:37.31 | peterS | that's a good idea |
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| 03:37.46 | peterS | but I don't think the world really needs more ITLAPD gear |
| 03:37.48 | SimonRaven | @tell ElPernotador -about root |
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| 03:38.08 | SlammerXP | peterS: I've not lurked on #svn for a while, no clues when .4 is likely to appear |
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| 03:38.22 | peterS | SlammerXP: well, I follow the dev list, so I should know, but I haven't read it in the last few days |
| 03:38.23 | SlammerXP | I unsubscribed since I got ISDN |
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| 03:38.38 | dna | khow do I killl everything using port # 8000? |
| 03:38.49 | SlammerXP | dna: use a claw hammer |
| 03:38.54 | vulcanoid | hi, i am reposting a rsync qn. suppose i have /foo/bar.txt where /foo is a symlink; i want to rsync it to a remote machine but there i want /foo/bar.txt to be created as normal directory+file under say /datafiles |
| 03:39.07 | dna | claw hammer? |
| 03:39.12 | dna | this sounds like World of Warcraft now |
| 03:39.18 | SlammerXP | dna: very effective for killing things. |
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| 03:39.22 | peterS | SlammerXP: nice thing about svn, their release process is very open - you actually get a 1-week head start packaging a new release because they freeze it for that long. we just weren't on the ball this last time, the maintainer team was in transition between people |
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| 03:39.50 | vulcanoid | how do i do that with rsync: --copy-links and -R together dont seem to work |
| 03:40.05 | SlammerXP | peterS: I always feel slightly guilty when I don't do _something_ svn related. I've been following the project for about 4 years. |
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| 03:40.29 | peterS | SlammerXP: ahh, that explains how you noticed the detail of our version number |
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| 03:41.13 | peterS | SlammerXP: so, 2 years ago on this day you were BlackbeardXP. what is the significance of "SlammerXP"? |
| 03:41.26 | SlammerXP | I was? |
| 03:41.33 | peterS | yes. I have a fine memory for these things, sometimes |
| 03:41.43 | dna | SlammerXP, I don't have either commands |
| 03:41.44 | SlammerXP | amazing |
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| 03:42.11 | SlammerXP | no real reason, just a random S.*XP nick |
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| 03:42.38 | SilverXP | Arrr |
| 03:42.39 | maher | SlammerXP: will you eventually become SlammerVista? |
| 03:42.47 | dna | any other ideas on how to locate what is on port 8000 and terminating it? |
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| 03:42.56 | SilverXP | maher: who knows. |
| 03:42.57 | maher | dna: netstat -pant |
| 03:43.04 | SilverXP | dna: lsof netstat fuser |
| 03:43.05 | SimonRaven | lsof -n -i :8000 |
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| 03:43.50 | SilverXP | google lacks any evidence that I was BlackbeardXP |
| 03:44.11 | lofdev | anyone with any expectation about ETA of gnome 2.12? |
| 03:44.21 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: so I'll have to check my irc logs. but I'm pretty sure you were. |
| 03:44.31 | mwilson | ETA? It's already released. |
| 03:44.41 | markd___ | hi guys. is there anyway to allow users to use scp to copy files from a server but stop then from logging in from ssh? |
| 03:44.41 | DrGamut | I'm having trouble making a DVD image with mkisofs that functions on a Windows box. |
| 03:44.45 | lofdev | mwilson: right. as a package? |
| 03:44.49 | mwilson | Gnome *does* publish a releae schedule for a reason, after all. |
| 03:44.58 | mwilson | s/releae/release/ |
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| 03:45.11 | CaptSilverXP | mwilson: gnome has a reason? some mistake, surely? |
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| 03:45.17 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: --- Day changed Fri Sep 19 2003 02:13 -!- SlayerXP is now known as BlackbeardXP 02:13 < BlackbeardXP> ah-arrrr |
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| 03:45.59 | Unununium | I'm trying to set up a Sarge system using debootstrap, but when I boot it my USB keyboard and mouse aren't working |
| 03:46.04 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: that 'ah-arrrr' doesn't sound like me, for some reason. |
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| 03:46.06 | lofdev | mwilson: i'm in a debian channel asking about a RELEASED product's release. the implication is that there will be a debian package, and I might be iterested in knowing how long its creation might take? |
| 03:46.10 | mwilson | lofdev: Lert me guess... you'll just die without that two hundreths of a version number. |
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| 03:46.35 | bob2 | lofdev: pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org |
| 03:46.38 | cafuego | I have an odd issue. 6 files in /. Three are called ? and three are called ???. I can access their actual filenames using readdir() and their names seem to be comprised of non-existent chars (ie: they are negative numbers when cast to int). I've checked all the obvious causes, but am at a loss/ |
| 03:46.39 | mwilson | lofdev: <shrug> It'll be in unstable when it's in unstable. Since unstable is itself unreleased, and most people shouldn't be using it, there doesn't seem to be a problem. |
| 03:46.39 | bob2 | sooner if you help |
| 03:46.40 | lofdev | mwilson: actually. I have a whinny client asking me everyday for a release |
| 03:46.45 | peterS | 02:48 < BlackbeardXP> life would be easier if people would simply stick to using windows. |
| 03:46.51 | peterS | does that sound like you, CaptSilverXP? |
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| 03:46.59 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: yup, much more like it. |
| 03:47.10 | mwilson | lofdev: You're clueless enough to put a "client" on unstable? |
| 03:47.11 | bob2 | cafuego: fsck? |
| 03:47.20 | cafuego | bob2: fsck returns fine. |
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| 03:47.37 | bob2 | cafuego: do they have anything in them? |
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| 03:47.56 | lofdev | mwilson: client wants to play with linux. I should give him redhat? He want's bells and whistles. There is no production impact, so yeah. I am clueless enough. |
| 03:48.00 | cafuego | bob2: No, they're root:root, mode 0666, 0bytes |
| 03:48.03 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: oh here's a nice exchange. < BlackbeardXP> helix`: I have a huge washing machine. I can fit a week's worth of clothes in it < helix`> BlackbeardXP: you act like you change clothes during any given week |
| 03:48.12 | Unununium | I have udev and hotplug installed; is there something I should be doing with them? |
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| 03:48.24 | helix | heh |
| 03:48.26 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: heh. |
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| 03:48.29 | CaptSilverXP | hey helix |
| 03:48.29 | mwilson | lofdev: Figures. |
| 03:48.34 | helix | snarky since '04! |
| 03:48.38 | maher | lofdev: someone is paying you so they can complain at you that a particular gnome version number isn't in unstable? now that's weird... |
| 03:48.38 | peterS | helix: '03 |
| 03:48.43 | helix | there too! |
| 03:48.50 | computer2 | hello there |
| 03:48.50 | helix | CaptSilverXP: I'll get hives |
| 03:48.59 | peterS | helix: he didn't believe me that he was BlackbeardXP two years ago today. I had to find logs |
| 03:49.03 | computer2 | kinsay walay buut ninyo |
| 03:49.04 | CaptSilverXP | helix: I didn't know you kept bees |
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| 03:49.10 | helix | I can't believe it's been two years |
| 03:49.16 | peterS | helix: have a ` |
| 03:49.17 | CaptSilverXP | yup |
| 03:49.17 | lofdev | mwilson: I'd play with it myself, but I like to be patient. I suppose I could configure/make it, but then I'd be a BAD debian user, right? |
| 03:49.24 | computer2 | nag unsa mo diha |
| 03:49.25 | CaptSilverXP | you're older, and more wrinkly |
| 03:49.34 | CaptSilverXP | whereas I just keep getting better looking |
| 03:49.34 | helix | I have no wrinkles |
| 03:49.40 | CaptSilverXP | more distinguished |
| 03:49.49 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: shorter of breath, one day closer to death |
| 03:49.49 | CaptSilverXP | especially since I got the grey hair in my beard |
| 03:50.01 | Unununium | The older I get, the better I was |
| 03:50.04 | peterS | well, two years closer |
| 03:50.11 | lofdev | mwilson: plus, that is info that I'd prefer to keep from the client. I don't need the headache of a deb install that has been modified by someone without the understanding of whay deb does what deb does... |
| 03:50.13 | peterS | Unununium: do you even exist? |
| 03:50.19 | peterS | Unununium: for more than like 5 nanoseconds at a time, I mean |
| 03:50.19 | Unununium | Not really |
| 03:50.24 | CaptSilverXP | helix: I missed you, give me a kiss. |
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| 03:50.29 | Unununium | Hence I take aging quite seriously |
| 03:50.33 | peterS | Unununium: haha |
| 03:50.40 | helix | CaptSilverXP: kiss of death? |
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| 03:50.58 | CaptSilverXP | helix: just a regular frenchy will do |
| 03:51.10 | helix | like gerard depardieu? |
| 03:51.22 | peterS | now that's just cruel |
| 03:51.41 | CaptSilverXP | he;s a talentless fool |
| 03:51.48 | Unununium | base-config didn't ask me about keyboards or mice or languages... is that normal? (Sarge) |
| 03:51.50 | peterS | making nobody drool |
| 03:52.25 | dogmeat | always with linux, i need 10 xterms or an emacs running to get stuff done. what is a better way? |
| 03:52.27 | lofdev | does anyone have a competent sounding lie that I can tell about when to expect a Debian package in unstable for Gnome 2.12? Awards for best lies. |
| 03:52.58 | Phated | Ooh, helix is here. |
| 03:52.59 | peterS | lofdev: "tomorrow" |
| 03:53.03 | cheal | lofdev: SIYH |
| 03:53.03 | maher | lofdev: just say two months - then say two months again in two months |
| 03:53.08 | helix | am not |
| 03:53.09 | peterS | Phated: I summoned her with a highlight from an irc log from 2003 |
| 03:53.15 | Phated | peterS: Excellent |
| 03:53.17 | peterS | Phated: she's amazingly susceptible to highlights |
| 03:53.32 | Phated | peterS: I see... |
| 03:53.32 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: I here she's a natural blonde |
| 03:53.34 | helix | they're how I ban people |
| 03:53.35 | maher | is it the ghost of helix past or the current helix? |
| 03:53.35 | CaptSilverXP | hear |
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| 03:53.40 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: could be, could be |
| 03:53.46 | cafuego | bob2: 2.6.13.2 returns non-NULL strings for the filenames, as opposed to 2.6.12.2 |
| 03:53.47 | peterS | Phated: even though I highlighted the wrong nick. she was known as helix` back then |
| 03:54.00 | Phated | Ooh, she used to have a little tick! |
| 03:54.00 | helix | we try not to talk about the amputation |
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| 03:54.13 | peterS | Phated: yeah, it was cute. we all told her not to cut it off |
| 03:54.22 | Phated | Awwww. |
| 03:54.23 | helix | Phated: you do not want to know the amount of pain and suffering it took to get it permanently removed |
| 03:54.28 | peterS | hehe |
| 03:54.29 | CaptSilverXP | i'm having a kitchen installed today |
| 03:54.33 | Phated | helix: Well, I'm very sorry for your loss. |
| 03:54.37 | helix | I'm not |
| 03:54.38 | CaptSilverXP | helix: wanna see a pic of my house? |
| 03:54.40 | helix | good riddance |
| 03:54.45 | Unununium | She keeps it in formaldehyde :^) |
| 03:54.46 | helix | CaptSilverXP: sorry, I broke X |
| 03:54.57 | Phated | Gosh, that's a hard line to take against your limb. |
| 03:55.00 | CaptSilverXP | http://www.hinterlands.org/IMG_1423.JPG/ |
| 03:55.00 | cafuego | What, helix had her appendix off? |
| 03:55.06 | Unununium | Her ` |
| 03:55.08 | CaptSilverXP | less the trailing / |
| 03:55.09 | lofdev | peterS: if I say tomorrow, I will have to write a script '#!/bin/bash && apt-get update && apt-get install gnome-session', right. then my client can run it all the time and it will eventually work? |
| 03:55.13 | Phated | Her little tick! |
| 03:55.18 | CaptSilverXP | helix: what did you do to it? |
| 03:55.18 | cafuego | That's what I said... |
| 03:55.21 | peterS | lofdev: ha. dunno. you asked for a good lie |
| 03:55.25 | Phated | Heh. |
| 03:55.26 | lofdev | actually that's a good idea, eh>? |
| 03:55.29 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: it was a bit of an ordeal |
| 03:55.33 | helix | CaptSilverXP: I don't know |
| 03:55.36 | cafuego | Phated: Having a tick permanently attached isn't a good thing. |
| 03:55.38 | peterS | there was a usurper involved. French of all things. |
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| 03:55.42 | Phated | cafuego: I suppose not. |
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| 03:55.52 | cafuego | It can give you kreuzfeld-jakob disease. |
| 03:55.59 | Phated | I see. |
| 03:56.04 | helix | hahaha |
| 03:56.05 | peterS | cafuego: that's tough. to spell, anyway. |
| 03:56.08 | lofdev | peterS: that script in a cron job ,eh? then I can say the guy will have it when it is there? Now, this is why I get the big bucks. |
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| 03:56.13 | helix | and to get factually correct |
| 03:56.14 | maher | cafuego: no it can't |
| 03:56.15 | cafuego | not that I want to imply helix is a mad cow ;-) |
| 03:56.26 | Phated | Heh. |
| 03:56.27 | peterS | cafuego: yeah, 'mad' is probably wrong |
| 03:56.33 | helix | sacred is more accurate |
| 03:56.38 | peterS | or scared |
| 03:56.44 | Phated | Meeep? |
| 03:56.45 | cafuego | peterS: Yeah, and this keyboard ain't helpoing aither |
| 03:56.46 | helix | I have no ph33r, arrr |
| 03:56.52 | cafuego | OH! |
| 03:56.53 | Phated | Arrr! |
| 03:56.57 | peterS | aRRrrR |
| 03:57.03 | Phated | cafuego: Yes! |
| 03:57.09 | CaptSilverXP | does the sacred chau go mu? |
| 03:57.12 | Phated | It is that day of days! |
| 03:57.13 | ke6isf | Not yet that time here in California. But wtf, I'll start early. ARRRR! |
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| 03:57.24 | peterS | cafuego: totally |
| 03:57.28 | rixth | Hmmm, whenever I try and play a song in RhythmBox I get 'Could not access ALSA device "default", check its permissions' but totem works fine (I'm using the libxine version). It must be gstreamers problem. Any idea of a fix? |
| 03:57.29 | Phated | cafuego: That's a fun show. Do eeet. |
| 03:57.31 | Unununium | ... any USB help? |
| 03:57.33 | peterS | cafuego: apparently you only have a few hours left to do it |
| 03:57.38 | CaptSilverXP | none of you have expressed envy of my house |
| 03:57.40 | cafuego | Phated: for more authenticity, matey |
| 03:57.41 | CaptSilverXP | that's unfair |
| 03:57.45 | cafuego | peterS: even |
| 03:57.48 | Phated | cafuego: Aye, that it be. |
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| 03:58.00 | cafuego | peterS: It's only 14:00, more then time enough/ |
| 03:58.17 | peterS | cafuego: get to your illegal but timely activities, then |
| 03:58.26 | Phated | cafuego: Yes, yes! |
| 03:58.33 | cafuego | peterS: Not from a client's property :-) |
| 03:58.37 | Phated | Go loot, and plundarrr! |
| 03:58.40 | peterS | I wonder if my cats will eat my flowers. they expressed a certain interest earlier |
| 03:58.42 | rixth | Yarrr! |
| 03:58.54 | Phated | o.O |
| 03:59.00 | thingfish | rixth: try installing gstreamer0.8-plugins |
| 03:59.01 | rixth | cafuego, woah, a Kiwi! |
| 03:59.02 | deadcat | cafuego: rape? where? let me join (= |
| 03:59.07 | Phated | peterS: If you don't let them, sooner or later the flowers revolt. |
| 03:59.13 | Phated | Eh, deadcat! ARrrr! |
| 03:59.13 | cafuego | peterS: they will, at least once. Don't give them lilies, though. |
| 03:59.20 | peterS | Phated: these are pretty tame flowers |
| 03:59.20 | deadcat | Phated: i kid i kid (= |
| 03:59.23 | rixth | thingfish, it works fine as root. |
| 03:59.28 | cafuego | rixth: No, I'm not. I just bought the domain. |
| 03:59.30 | Phated | peterS: ARE they? |
| 03:59.33 | Phated | deadcat: Nono, TLAP! |
| 03:59.37 | Guerrrrin | rixth: video ezy is not a NZ thing |
| 03:59.43 | peterS | I don't actually mind if they eat them. they're second-hand, and they'll fade soon enough anyway |
| 03:59.44 | deadcat | Phated: if you're giving me that look. it means i am kidding hehe |
| 03:59.47 | deadcat | !tlap |
| 03:59.49 | CaptSilverXP | today I get a new kitchen installed |
| 03:59.49 | helix | peterS: I thought that said "flame towers" |
| 03:59.52 | bob2 | it's a .au thing |
| 03:59.52 | rixth | Guerrrrin, Australia too, yeah |
| 03:59.54 | Phated | deadcat: Bahahaha. TLAPD! |
| 03:59.54 | helix | then I learned how to read |
| 04:00.08 | peterS | right, good thing you got that straightened out |
| 04:00.09 | ke6isf | deadcat: Nothing there yet I guess. Make it talk! |
| 04:00.10 | deadcat | Phated: whats tlapd? |
| 04:00.11 | lofdev | rixth. can you run it from a terminal window and get the error? |
| 04:00.18 | cafuego | tomorrow is free video day at the video store |
| 04:00.18 | Phated | deadcat: Talk Like A Pirate Day! |
| 04:00.22 | SimonRaven | talk like a pirate day |
| 04:00.23 | Phated | Sweet. |
| 04:00.29 | deadcat | Phated: today? |
| 04:00.32 | rixth | Got error opening "file:///data/Music/Aerosmith/Aerosmith%20-%20Gold/CD1/05%20-%20Aerosmith%20-%20Rag%20Doll.mp3": Could not pause playback |
| 04:00.33 | Phated | deadcat: NOW! |
| 04:00.35 | peterS | deadcat: for some version of 'today' |
| 04:00.37 | peterS | deadcat: 19 sept |
| 04:00.39 | ke6isf | Not just talk like a pirate day, but *international* talk like a pirate day! |
| 04:00.44 | Phated | Indeed! |
| 04:00.45 | deadcat | Phated: arg. |
| 04:00.46 | Guerrrrin | eew, aerosmith |
| 04:00.46 | Unununium | Ack, now I have that song stuck in my head! |
| 04:00.51 | Unununium | Didn't take long |
| 04:01.04 | deadcat | Phated: catch me lucky charm !! |
| 04:01.15 | Phated | deadcat: Arrr, chuck it here, matey. |
| 04:01.19 | helix | I'm so glad I've never heard that song |
| 04:01.21 | rixth | Guerrrrin, Aerosmith are interesting, my usual taste is much better, hah |
| 04:01.23 | Phated | Me too. |
| 04:01.30 | peterS | I bet you both have |
| 04:01.38 | Phated | Actually, I haven't. |
| 04:01.39 | helix | I bet Phated hasn't |
| 04:01.41 | lofdev | rixth: same problem with all formats/files? |
| 04:01.45 | peterS | rag doll, livin in a movie, my voice sucks, but I'm so rich, I'm steven tyler |
| 04:01.50 | Phated | Only Aerosmith I've ever heard is the Armageddon one. |
| 04:01.53 | helix | I may have but probably managed to repress the memories |
| 04:01.54 | CaptSilverXP | Aeroshite |
| 04:02.03 | rixth | lofdev, I only hae mp3s. So, totem works fine & rhythmbox as root works fine |
| 04:02.08 | CaptSilverXP | </opinion> |
| 04:02.10 | SimonRaven | hm, flying shit |
| 04:02.13 | helix | ...rhythmbox as root? why? |
| 04:02.13 | lofdev | areosmith rocked before they sobered up. Sweet Emotion, etc... |
| 04:02.16 | Phated | Heh. |
| 04:02.23 | Guerrrrin | rhythmbox ... why? |
| 04:02.23 | dogmeat | cafuego: maybe you could mount the gnutilla fileshare network and watch it from there. |
| 04:02.28 | peterS | lofdev: they sobered up? |
| 04:02.36 | peterS | lofdev: wonder if the Stones will next |
| 04:02.37 | CaptSilverXP | yay firslight |
| 04:02.37 | dogmeat | cafuego: lufs |
| 04:02.39 | CaptSilverXP | first |
| 04:02.42 | rixth | Guerrrrin, because it is better than anything else out there for large collections |
| 04:02.46 | Unununium | What?? |
| 04:02.47 | jill | got rid of my clock problem |
| 04:02.50 | SimonRaven | peterS: right. that'll be the day |
| 04:02.50 | geoffb | Sound question: I am able to listen to a .wav file by launching Totem from Nautilus, but I cannot seem to get sound out of any apps. Running frozen-bubble from the command line, for instance, says "Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device)." I'm running etch. Ideas? |
| 04:02.51 | Guerrrrin | rixth: i disagree. |
| 04:02.51 | CaptSilverXP | i need to paint my kitchen ceiling as soon as it's light enough |
| 04:02.57 | ke6isf | peterS: Dude, if the Stones sober up, then Keith will promptly decompose. |
| 04:02.59 | Unununium | I tried importing my collection and it ATE ALL MY RAM. It was eventually OOM'ed. |
| 04:03.00 | rixth | Guerrrrin, what would you suggest? |
| 04:03.03 | lofdev | peterS: yeah. That's why great bands die... Aerosmith. Van Halen. Metallica.... |
| 04:03.07 | SimonRaven | ke6isf: indeed |
| 04:03.13 | peterS | ke6isf: true. that's about all that's preserving his body at the moment |
| 04:03.19 | Guerrrrin | rixth: a plain directory structure traversable by find or locate |
| 04:03.32 | rixth | Bah, I never liked Metallica since they shut down Napster. Then again, someone else would have done it. |
| 04:03.35 | ke6isf | peterS: Something's giving the guy eternal life, but at what cost?! |
| 04:03.39 | Guerrrrin | a database is just overkill unless you have hundreds of thousands of files, which nobody does |
| 04:03.46 | CaptSilverXP | i never forgave metallica for Load |
| 04:03.56 | rixth | Guerrrrin, my mp3s are immaculatly (sp?) organized. All named & tagged under strict rules |
| 04:04.02 | CaptSilverXP | that was the last album of theirs I bought |
| 04:04.12 | Guerrrrin | rixth: all that demonstrates is that you have too much time on your hands |
| 04:04.19 | dogmeat | heh |
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| 04:04.27 | rixth | Guerrrrin, no, easytag is an awesome program. |
| 04:04.29 | lofdev | rixth: that was about the time James quit drinking. And Jason left. and they did that MI-2 song, and they... It wasn't Fade To Black |
| 04:04.50 | Rhinoz | can anyone recommend a web control panel for handling bind apache and emails other than webmin |
| 04:04.54 | ke6isf | rixth: That's nothing. I know somebody who is doing that with video tapes - along witha pplying catalog numbers to them. This guy catalogs them by hand, puts them in a DB, and references them. |
| 04:04.59 | ke6isf | rixth: Then again, he's unemployed. |
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| 04:05.06 | Guerrrrin | Rhinoz: don't use web control panels, ever, for anything. |
| 04:05.07 | lofdev | rixth: (side note) have you looked at MPD. I used to swear by RhythmBox, but MPD kicks its ass. |
| 04:05.22 | rixth | lofdev, as in the command line client? |
| 04:05.28 | ke6isf | Rhinoz: No, I can't recommend one. I recommend not using them. |
| 04:05.40 | lofdev | rixth: there is a gnome/kde/windows/mac front to it. |
| 04:05.48 | rixth | ke6isf, someone has too much time! |
| 04:05.55 | lofdev | rixth: it just runs in the bg and is simply awesome. |
| 04:05.56 | ke6isf | rixth: Like I said, he's unemployed. |
| 04:06.02 | CaptSilverXP | Guerrrrin: I wrote a nice review of webmin once |
| 04:06.08 | Unununium | Is there a Debian help channel? |
| 04:06.14 | ApTek | ! |
| 04:06.20 | Guerrrrin | mpd is good too |
| 04:06.21 | rixth | My collection isn't HUGE but it is respectable. About 13,000 tracks. |
| 04:06.22 | SimonRaven | you're standing in it |
| 04:06.22 | geoffb | Any idea why totem would produce sound, but other apps would claim no sound device was available? |
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| 04:06.33 | Guerrrrin | but the frontends lack somewhat, and its format support is weak |
| 04:06.40 | rixth | geoffb, exactly the same problem here! |
| 04:06.42 | peterS | geoffb: chances are totem is using ALSA and your other apps aren't. or possibly vice versa |
| 04:06.42 | Guerrrrin | CaptSilverXP: linkage |
| 04:06.58 | SimonRaven | or alsa oss-emu |
| 04:06.59 | lofdev | Guerrrrin: I have mpd running aac/ogg formats. It's just HARD. |
| 04:07.05 | geoffb | peterS, OK, I'd buy that. How would I make the other apps happy? |
| 04:07.15 | CaptSilverXP | Guerrrrin: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/217/1/ |
| 04:07.19 | peterS | geoffb: run 'lsmod | grep snd', see if anything shows up |
| 04:07.25 | geoffb | running |
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| 04:07.29 | peterS | geoffb: if so, 'modprobe snd-pcm-oss' |
| 04:07.41 | geoffb | see lots of snd stuff |
| 04:07.43 | geoffb | ok |
| 04:07.51 | CaptSilverXP | "Monday, May 31, 1999" |
| 04:07.58 | Guerrrrin | CaptSilverXP: hahaa |
| 04:08.02 | geoffb | peterS, ooh, and that brought a lot more |
| 04:08.12 | lofdev | rixth: at least take a look. the design is fantastic. www.musicpd.org |
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| 04:08.31 | CaptSilverXP | SimonRaven: I quite like sasl |
| 04:08.35 | geoffb | peterS, and suddenly I hear sound. THANK YOU. |
| 04:08.38 | CaptSilverXP | SimonRaven: I use it with cyrus |
| 04:08.38 | peterS | geoffb: if that fixes your world, you can add a line "snd-pcm-oss" to /etc/modules |
| 04:08.45 | peterS | geoffb: then it'll load every time you boot |
| 04:08.51 | geoffb | peterS, OK, will do |
| 04:09.13 | rixth | Couriers in NZ are so slack. I've been waiting for a crate from Wellington (150km away) and it's been 5 days! |
| 04:09.13 | SimonRaven | caphuso: i do too usually, but for some strange reason my sasl-regeps borked when i upgraded to oldap 2.3.7 |
| 04:09.25 | SimonRaven | caphuso: sorry, bad tabbing |
| 04:09.27 | bob2 | rixth: quicker to drive down and steal it |
| 04:09.30 | bob2 | rixth: (bro) |
| 04:09.35 | SimonRaven | CaptSilverXP: ^^^ |
| 04:09.43 | rixth | bob2, I don't say bro, I'm as white as they come! |
| 04:10.00 | bob2 | rixth: choice! |
| 04:10.19 | CaptSilverXP | SimonRaven: I just use it with cyrus for authentication, LDAP is evil :) |
| 04:11.01 | geoffb | peterS, thanks again. |
| 04:11.15 | peterS | np |
| 04:11.34 | rixth | lofdev, mpd looks nice! What library does it use (if any) |
| 04:11.49 | Maneit | Which encryption algo does htaccess use? |
| 04:12.02 | lofdev | hey. if we're on sound tonigh. what the hell is semaphore and why does it fail on my laptop, but not affect anything. any why have I not fied the error message in months |
| 04:12.07 | SimonRaven | CaptSilverXP: i got GSSAPI working again, but i need to get cyrus authing working again. i'm using cyrus' ptloader, built the ldap version |
| 04:12.09 | CaptSilverXP | Maneit: UNIX crypt() |
| 04:12.29 | peterS | lofdev: a semaphore is a programming mechanism to keep two processes from hitting the same thing at the same time |
| 04:12.33 | Maneit | CaptSilverXP: Is that a common algo? |
| 04:12.37 | SimonRaven | can also use md5 |
| 04:12.42 | peterS | lofdev: it's an implementation detail of your sound drivers or something - what's the warning message exactly? |
| 04:12.42 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 04:12.47 | Maneit | okay |
| 04:12.50 | lofdev | rixth: I'm using it to play using whatever all other mp3s use, and faa[c|d], and such.. |
| 04:12.53 | CaptSilverXP | SimonRaven: have you changed the machine's hostname at all? |
| 04:12.57 | CaptSilverXP | Maneit: very |
| 04:13.00 | SimonRaven | also very weak. i'd suggest md5 |
| 04:13.11 | lofdev | peterS: I get a bunch of failed to load messages. |
| 04:13.17 | SimonRaven | CaptSilverXP: nope. nothing changed except for the ldap upgrade |
| 04:13.33 | peterS | lofdev: well, a semaphore isn't "loaded", so the warning message must be something else |
| 04:13.39 | lofdev | peterS: I wasjust going to hunt around in my init.d scripts until I find something called semaphore and comment the lines... |
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| 04:13.47 | CaptSilverXP | SimonRaven: ENOCLUE then, sorry |
| 04:13.54 | SimonRaven | (i suggest md5 only because htpasswd only supports 2 hashes) |
| 04:14.00 | peterS | lofdev: yeah you won't find it, it won't be called that |
| 04:14.08 | Dewi | does anyone know if I can SMB-share a printer without having a native driver for it? Since the windows clients have a driver installed, I'm hopeful that this is possible? |
| 04:14.15 | lofdev | peterS: I also get one when I shutdown -h now' |
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| 04:14.44 | CaptSilverXP | Dewi: yes, use CUPS |
| 04:14.47 | SimonRaven | CaptSilverXP: oh it's ok, i'll get it working again, i just have to see where it's bugging out, and correct it. thanks |
| 04:15.02 | lofdev | Dewi. You have to read the samba docs. They are pretty good and this is a major undertaking. You have to set up a raw lpd shared by samba, but then either.. |
| 04:15.24 | Maneit | CaptSilverXP: isn't crypt() the one john cracks? |
| 04:15.30 | mary_read | arrr, that scurvy apt-proxy just needed ta walk the plank, then swim back aboard. |
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| 04:15.47 | lofdev | Dewi: install the printer on each cpu and make it install the driver, or go a lng process to install the driver in a place that looks to Windows like the proper share... |
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| 04:16.01 | CaptSilverXP | lofdev: actually, it's trivial. |
| 04:16.01 | peterS | Maneit: crypt() isn't an accurate description, you can use that same function for multiple hashes |
| 04:16.07 | Dewi | lofdev: I don't have many clients. I'm happy to go shareless. |
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| 04:16.13 | lofdev | CaptSilverXP: hence, why I've lived with it for months |
| 04:16.18 | peterS | Maneit: but I think you mean the DES hashes, and yes, password crackers often concentrate on that |
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| 04:16.27 | lofdev | Dewi: all linux or mixed? |
| 04:16.32 | rixth | Why can't I get gmpc looking like this: http://musicpd.org/images/gmpc2.png That looks great to me |
| 04:16.33 | Dewi | lofdev: all windows. |
| 04:16.35 | Maneit | peterS: right :) |
| 04:16.48 | Dewi | lofdev: except the server which is linux |
| 04:17.01 | Dewi | lofdev: but there is no linux driver for this printer. I only want to access it remotely from a windows client. |
| 04:17.08 | k-man | whats a good filesystem for a courier imap mail server that uses maildir folders? |
| 04:17.21 | lofdev | Dewi: I worked this out, but it was kinda a pain in the butt. |
| 04:17.28 | peterS | ha |
| 04:17.33 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 04:17.42 | CaptSilverXP | k-man: one supported by linux |
| 04:17.42 | dserban | Apart from telling me I shouldn't be running unstable, can someone guide me in resolving a borked package? |
| 04:17.46 | TwistedEmotions | Sup guys.. trying to broadcase ESSID and I cant figure out how.. ;( "iwconfig wlan0 essid hello mode master" works fine but then I cant seem to find the Access Point from the other laptop |
| 04:17.47 | Kevadu | Is it possible for an app to be listening on a port without showing up on a "nmap localhost"? |
| 04:17.51 | peterS | k-man: reiserfs if you have a really good backup strategy and don't mind possible downtime once in awhile to repair it. probably xfs otherwise. |
| 04:18.03 | lofdev | Dewi: check privat channel (Alt-f3) |
| 04:18.04 | SimonRaven | i meant that as satire towards crypto and a compliment to you |
| 04:18.08 | k-man | peterS, resier is not production ready then? |
| 04:18.22 | dserban | Seems that libmysqlclient15-beta2 or what have you, is trying to overwrite a library provided by libmysqlclient14. What to do? |
| 04:18.24 | lofdev | Dewi: actually alt-3 |
| 04:18.28 | peterS | k-man: depends on whom you ask. I haven't used it in about 5 years because it certainly wasn't production-ready then |
| 04:18.40 | Dewi | lofdev: alt-3 in what software? |
| 04:18.46 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: it's still not. |
| 04:18.47 | k-man | peters, and are you refering to reiser3 or reiser4? |
| 04:18.47 | peterS | k-man: people tell stories all the time about losing their data with reiserfs, but others swear they've never had any problems |
| 04:18.49 | Supaplex | k-man: I agree with peterS. |
| 04:18.57 | Kevadu | I agree, go with XFS |
| 04:18.58 | peterS | k-man: reiserfs 3. nobody knows anything about reiser4 |
| 04:18.58 | k-man | interseting |
| 04:19.00 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: the reiser4 repacker has been coming Real Soon Now for about two years |
| 04:19.07 | lofdev | Dewi: sent you a private message, since the question reqires a long answer. |
| 04:19.21 | k-man | oh |
| 04:19.21 | TwistedEmotions | dmesg|tail gives me wlan0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 04:19.21 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.23 | k-man | interesting |
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| 04:19.30 | lofdev | Dewi: can you get the messages (alt-3 in irssi) |
| 04:19.33 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: I do. it still has the fundamental flaw of v4 |
| 04:19.36 | CaptSilverXP | err v3 |
| 04:19.49 | Dewi | lofdev: just a moment, you're not registered |
| 04:20.03 | Dewi | lofdev: so I can't get your message |
| 04:20.05 | lofdev | Dewi: keep meaning to do that.... |
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| 04:20.11 | Dewi | how do I -E myself? |
| 04:20.26 | deadcat | Dewi: /topic |
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| 04:20.42 | Dewi | deadcat: yeah, how do I reverse that? |
| 04:20.46 | lofdev | Dewi: anyway.... you need to 1) set the printer as raw and build an lpd queue on the server. |
| 04:20.53 | CaptSilverXP | peterS: the fundamental flaw being that Hans Reiser is an asshole. |
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| 04:21.10 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: indeed, that's a constant across all the reiserfs releases |
| 04:21.15 | ke6isf | Dewi: /mode Dewi +E |
| 04:21.25 | ke6isf | Dewi: Oh, -E. |
| 04:21.45 | lofdev | Dewi: 2) install the driver on the clients, and then trick them into pointing at the queus on the server (or install using Have Disk... or Generic pointing to the queue) |
| 04:22.24 | deadcat | Dewi: no clue. |
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| 04:22.58 | Dewi | lofdev: it's a USB printer. What is the name of the software to configure on the server to talk to USB and give me a "raw" device? |
| 04:22.59 | lofdev | Dewi: OR 2) Set up a samba share in which you place all needed driver files, and then tell samba to advertise the files. |
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| 04:23.11 | varroa | Kevadu, if you are on the box `netstat -anp' will show you all your open ports and the associated process. |
| 04:23.15 | Dewi | can samba talk to USB itself? |
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| 04:23.38 | deadcat | how would i broadcast my SSID with iwconfig or wireless-tools? |
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| 04:23.53 | lofdev | Dewi: you just have to make an lp device point at it. Then you will be able to share it using samba |
| 04:24.09 | lofdev | Dewi: what kind of printer. |
| 04:24.17 | Dewi | lofdev: canon pixma ip5000 on USB |
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| 04:24.58 | lofdev | Dewi: put it on a windows box and share it from the client. it'll save you a hell of a lot of problems, what with Canon replacing the entire spooler and all |
| 04:25.12 | Kevadu | Thanks varroa |
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| 04:25.30 | varroa | deadcat, I think you need to put your card into "master" mode. |
| 04:25.33 | CaptSilverXP | people who buy inkjet printers deserve all the pain that's coming their way |
| 04:25.40 | deadcat | varroa: it is |
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| 04:25.46 | dserban | Heh, even lasers are a bitch now. |
| 04:26.20 | CaptSilverXP | a good clue is to see if the printer only has a USB connector |
| 04:26.20 | bob2 | if it doesn't say "postscript" on the box, send it back! |
| 04:26.21 | lofdev | Dewi: I managed to get a lexmark and an old brother laser working via samba, but they broke every day and I used my swear-word budget for a millenium while setting them up. |
| 04:26.25 | CaptSilverXP | if it does then don't buy it |
| 04:26.54 | lofdev | CaptSilverXP: the best thing to do is check with Linuxprinting.org before buying a printer... |
| 04:26.57 | dserban | So, I've tried removing packages that depend on the borked deb, but dpkg won't let me because there are unmet dependencies. What should one do now? |
| 04:27.10 | peterS | CaptSilverXP: it's unfortunate that this should be true - usb is a very handy interface for that sort of thing, there's no solid technical reason parallel ports should still be around |
| 04:27.20 | varroa | deadcat, what card are you using? What driver? |
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| 04:27.33 | deadcat | varroa: zd1211 |
| 04:27.45 | dserban | I'm trying to find a network module for my lexmark optra 1855... For less than a hun :/ |
| 04:27.55 | lofdev | CaptSilverXP: I have an Epson Stylus Phot R200 that works flawlessly from Linux. Better, actually than it does from Windows. |
| 04:28.30 | dserban | No dice. |
| 04:28.31 | CaptSilverXP | lofdev: do you not find yourself spending more time running cleaning cycles than actually printing? |
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| 04:29.06 | lofdev | CaptSilverXP: not really more or less. That's the printer, I think. |
| 04:29.10 | dserban | I'd probably spend more time running to the store to get new ink cartridges. The optra I mentioned has toners that go for 17,000 pages. |
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| 04:30.35 | CaptSilverXP | hmm, another 45 mins til I can start painting I think |
| 04:31.07 | dserban | Whatchya painting? |
| 04:31.22 | CaptSilverXP | my kicthen ceiling |
| 04:31.25 | dserban | :( |
| 04:31.33 | CaptSilverXP | there's a bloke coming the fit a new kitchen at about 9 |
| 04:31.35 | ke6isf | CaptSilverXP: Oh, fun. |
| 04:31.35 | dserban | Nothing fun like vinyl dying your dvd drive? |
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| 04:31.57 | riv3t | hi, I can't get my cdrom to mount |
| 04:32.04 | lofdev | not it |
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| 04:32.11 | varroa | deadcat, Mmm... It has an IP, network, netmask, mode, and essid. Have you configured anything else like WEP? Are you running a firewall? |
| 04:32.13 | CaptSilverXP | is that a euphemism? |
| 04:32.18 | ke6isf | riv3t: What are the symptoms? |
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| 04:33.16 | riv3t | ohh wait |
| 04:33.27 | riv3t | It works, the cd is just screwed |
| 04:33.28 | riv3t | lol |
| 04:33.30 | riv3t | bye |
| 04:33.35 | ke6isf | riv3t: New coaster! |
| 04:33.41 | riv3t | hehe |
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| 04:33.44 | TwistedEmotions | varroa: It's not broadcasting its essid... Im trying to find the ESSID for the setup deadcat is talking about and it doesnt even show under Available Wireless Networks |
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| 04:35.09 | hogmeat | what's the best way for a general user to view the /usr/share/doc files? is there a special client that anyone uses? |
| 04:35.20 | dserban | hogmeat: dwww works |
| 04:35.34 | dserban | so does file:///usr/share/doc/ |
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| 04:36.45 | peterS | outgFei: I hope you enjoyed your stay here in #debian |
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| 04:37.04 | dserban | How do I find out what depends on a package? apt-cache policy? |
| 04:37.11 | peterS | dserban: apt-cache rdepends |
| 04:37.30 | peterS | dserban: the apt-rdepends package is even better at it |
| 04:37.34 | varroa | TwistedEmotions, I'm not familiar with the module you are using with that card. I've just used prisims w/ hostap. I'm assuming it handles AP functions or you wouldn't be tyring to use it as such. |
| 04:37.54 | TwistedEmotions | varroa: It "supposively" does.. |
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| 04:38.02 | dserban | peterS: thanks I know I used it in the past, just couldn't remember. I'll get that rdepends package, when I can actually finish my dist-upgrade ;) |
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| 04:38.08 | peterS | heh |
| 04:38.09 | Zero_Kelvin | Hiyo! |
| 04:38.11 | dserban | libmysqlclient15 currently busts it. |
| 04:38.20 | dumezil | how do i install sun's java runtime environment? ive read a bunch of websites about using fakeroot and java-package to make a debian package, but apparently java-package isn't in the stable distro |
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| 04:38.31 | nullvoid | hi all |
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| 04:38.35 | TwistedEmotions | varroa: my only question is... when you set your card at home to 'mode master' then automatically you can see that access point from another computer? |
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| 04:38.45 | nullvoid | how can I install a asc pubkey for my apt? |
| 04:39.08 | peterS | nullvoid: the keyring is /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
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| 04:39.31 | peterS | nullvoid: so something like: gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg < /tmp/your_new_key.asc |
| 04:39.38 | Zero_Kelvin | Hey guys, I've got two queries, one related to X11 starting up and a problem I've had since day dot of using an nVidia video card, and the other is about file sharing and my lack of authorization in KDE, despite setting the option that all users should be able to share anything in their home dirs. |
| 04:39.39 | TwistedEmotions | varroa: Either it's failing completely or it's just not 'broadcasting' the essid. I dont know which because it's my first time setting it up |
| 04:40.21 | varroa | TwistedEmotions, with the HostAP driver, yes. I don't know about the driver you are using. |
| 04:40.25 | vineet | Zero_Kelvin: the question I think you're talking about (re: home directories) refers to how new home directories are created |
| 04:40.27 | hogmeat | dserban: dwww is cool, thanks... |
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| 04:40.38 | nullvoid | PeterS: thanks man |
| 04:40.40 | vineet | it doesn't affect existing home dirs, or any files already on your filesystem |
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| 04:40.48 | peterS | nullvoid: better yet: HOME=/tmp gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg < /tmp/your_key.asc |
| 04:40.53 | nullvoid | PeterS: but it still complain |
| 04:41.04 | peterS | nullvoid: the HOME=/tmp makes gpg fail to find your normal ~/.gnupg |
| 04:41.05 | Zero_Kelvin | The nVidia query is simple. If I start up from a complete power off shut-down, there is a 50/50 chance that I go straight into my login manager. From a normal reboot this doesn't happen. My screen gets no output, although a ctrl-alt-backspace to restart the X server brings it up. Any ideas? |
| 04:41.26 | peterS | nullvoid: do this to see what's in it: HOME=/tmp gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --list-keys |
| 04:41.27 | dumezil | anyone know how to setup java runtime environment on debian? |
| 04:41.53 | lofdev | dmsg java-package |
| 04:41.54 | dserban | hogmeat: :) np, it's kinda fucked though, watch out it misses a lot of man pages. |
| 04:42.04 | lofdev | dmesg java-package |
| 04:42.05 | nullvoid | PeterS: it's not in |
| 04:42.13 | lofdev | sorry all. idiot |
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| 04:42.25 | peterS | nullvoid: did redirecting the public key file into gpg do anything, then? |
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| 04:42.39 | Zero_Kelvin | vineet: When I right click on a dir, click properties, and click on the sharing tab I get I'm not authorized and I need to configure the sharing. I login with the root pass, configure "all users can share", and it still doesn't let me set sharing options. |
| 04:42.47 | nullvoid | I enter exactly what you gave me |
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| 04:43.00 | nullvoid | let me retry |
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| 04:43.28 | nullvoid | mail:~# HOME=/tmp gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg < ziyi-2005.asc |
| 04:43.28 | nullvoid | gpg: keyring `/tmp/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created |
| 04:43.28 | nullvoid | pub 1024D/276981F4 2004-12-24 Volatile Archive Key 2005 <katie@volatile.debian.net> |
| 04:43.35 | Mortalman | scrolling in xterm without a mouse wheel is done how? |
| 04:43.46 | nullvoid | peterS: but when I list it, the key is not there |
| 04:43.51 | peterS | nullvoid: oh, might need --no-default-keyring. then you can probably dispense with HOME=/tmp |
| 04:44.04 | lofdev | dumezil: message dpkg java-package |
| 04:44.04 | peterS | nullvoid: so: gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg < ziyi-2005.asc |
| 04:44.05 | Zero_Kelvin | Mortalman: Shift-up or shift-down, shift-page-up or shift-page-down. |
| 04:44.06 | mwilson | sharing? |
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| 04:44.18 | tcsetattr | same as Linux console, Mortlman. Shift-PgUp. Wait, did you say without mouse _wheel_? jeez, are people really so dependent on those things that it's no longer common knowledge that xterm has a scrollbar? |
| 04:44.27 | Mortalman | Zero_Kelvin: thanks |
| 04:44.30 | tcsetattr | check the menus for "enable scrollbar", it's not that hard |
| 04:44.37 | nullvoid | peterS: done, but still when I list, none of those |
| 04:45.00 | peterS | nullvoid: weird. shouldn't ziyi-key-2005 already be in that file though? |
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| 04:45.06 | nullvoid | no |
| 04:45.35 | nullvoid | peterS: there are only two keys from ftpmaster |
| 04:45.46 | peterS | nullvoid: I thought that's what ziyi-key-2005 was. |
| 04:45.47 | B-Real | alguien me puede ayudar????? |
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| 04:46.08 | nullvoid | let me retry again |
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| 04:46.24 | peterS | nullvoid: oh you might need --import as well. new line: gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --import < ziyi-key-2005.asc |
| 04:46.46 | Rhinoz | does anyone know of a package that intsalls ldapv3 |
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| 04:47.11 | Rhinoz | or is that the default of slapd |
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| 04:47.44 | nullvoid | peterS: gpg: key 276981F4: "Volatile Archive Key 2005 <katie@volatile.debian.net>" not changed |
| 04:47.57 | peterS | nullvoid: as I said, I think ziyi-key-2005 should already be in that keyring |
| 04:48.16 | nullvoid | peterS: yes is in now |
| 04:48.27 | nullvoid | but why when I apt-get update, it stil complain |
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| 04:48.44 | nullvoid | peterS: W: GPG error: http://ftp2.de.debian.org sarge/volatile Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7EF7FFF4276981F4 |
| 04:49.43 | peterS | nullvoid: weird, that key ID doesn't appear to be valid |
| 04:50.08 | peterS | nullvoid: I mean 0x7EF7FFF4276981F4 - it's not ziyi-key-2005, from what I can tell |
| 04:50.10 | nullvoid | peterS: I got the key from http://volatile.debian.net/ |
| 04:50.26 | peterS | nullvoid: ahh. |
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| 04:50.52 | larrikin | can someone please tell me what the real dependencies of dpkg are ? eg. gzip/gunzip not listed in deps .. is there a particular shell required to run preinst/postinst .. any other deps ? |
| 04:51.22 | nullvoid | peterS: what should I do now, since freshclam complain my antivirus outofdate, I need the new one |
| 04:51.23 | peterS | nullvoid: yeah, looks correct. let me check this stuff out |
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| 04:51.34 | nullvoid | peterS: sure, please |
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| 04:52.29 | peterS | nullvoid: seems to work for me: gpg --import --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg < ziyi-2005.asc |
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| 04:53.13 | nullvoid | peterS: I am using sid |
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| 04:53.46 | peterS | nullvoid: right, me too. so this, "gpg --homedir /tmp --list-keys /etc/apt/trusted.gpg", does not show katie@volatile.debian.net in there? |
| 04:54.18 | peterS | nullvoid: also, with sid, you shouldn't really need volatile.debian.net. it's intended for people who run stable |
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| 04:55.07 | nullvoid | peterS: gpg: error reading key: public key not found |
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| 04:55.29 | nullvoid | peterS: but when I freshclam it complain my av is outofdate |
| 04:55.35 | squack | hello,how do I list all partitions on my hard drive? |
| 04:55.46 | peterS | squack: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 04:55.52 | peterS | squack: or, cat /proc/partitions |
| 04:55.58 | squack | thank you |
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| 04:56.34 | aedwards | Folks...when I do 'updatedb' I get /usr/bin/find: /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES: Invalid argument |
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| 04:56.52 | aedwards | Any ideas? |
| 04:57.07 | peterS | aedwards: sounds like a l10n bug in find |
| 04:57.08 | aedwards | How to fix I mean. |
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| 04:57.20 | peterS | aedwards: you can run 'LC_MESSAGES=C updatedb' |
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| 04:57.25 | peterS | that's a workaround, not a fix |
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| 04:58.59 | aedwards | Can I blow away the find cache database and have updatedb build again from scratch...would that fix? |
| 04:59.00 | tcsetattr | Invalid argument? maybe somehow it's failing to stat that file. |
| 05:00.09 | nullvoid | peterS: after you import the key, can your apt trust it? |
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| 05:00.23 | peterS | nullvoid: haven't checked *that*. but if it's in that particular keyring, it should be trusted |
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| 05:00.55 | peterS | nullvoid: did you successfully import it? does gpg --homedir /tmp --list-keys --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg show it? |
| 05:01.52 | aedwards | anyone know why on disk the updatedb cache database is kept? |
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| 05:03.19 | peterS | aedwards: where? look in /var/cache/locate/ |
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| 05:03.42 | squack | hello,how do I list all partitions on my hard drive and what they are formated as? |
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| 05:04.12 | peterS | squack: cat /proc/partitions shows all your partitions. 'file - < /dev/hda1' shows what a partition's format is, sometimes |
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| 05:04.30 | squack | thanks peterS |
| 05:04.30 | nullvoid | peterS: since you said I don't need volatile, where can I have the update clamav for under deb? |
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| 05:04.52 | peterS | nullvoid: ask the clamav maintainers why they don't support debian unstable, I guess, and what you can do about it |
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| 05:05.36 | peterS | nullvoid: unstable users shouldn't expect to have to use volatile.debian.net at all. maybe this isn't clear to the clamav maintainers |
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| 05:06.20 | nullvoid | peterS: yes, I just remove it out of my sourcelist |
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| 05:08.23 | SimonRaven | file -l too IIRC |
| 05:08.23 | riv3t | hi |
| 05:08.30 | riv3t | How do I take a screen shot? |
| 05:08.49 | riv3t | Do I neeed some graphics program? I have "feh" |
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| 05:09.23 | SimonRaven | scrot is nice. |
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| 05:09.39 | riv3t | scrot takes a screenshot? |
| 05:09.40 | riv3t | ok |
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| 05:09.45 | peterS | that's what it's for |
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| 05:09.55 | peterS | there are several screenshot apps, 'apt-cache search screenshot' should turn them up |
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| 05:10.11 | peterS | well, with some false positives |
| 05:10.15 | peterS | as usual for apt-cache search |
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| 05:11.24 | SimonRaven | STFU |
| 05:11.24 | spammeh | ::::Looking for the BEST irc network? @ irc.digipimps.com #digipimps:::: #digipimps ::::(IRC.DIGIPIMPS.COM):::: !! :::: :::: |
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| 05:11.37 | SimonRaven | @ops spammeh is well, spamiing |
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| 05:11.38 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: spammeh is well, spamiing |
| 05:11.41 | nullvoid | peterS: the volatile I found is for sarge and not stable |
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| 05:11.48 | SimonRaven | dumb fucks on rr... |
| 05:11.53 | peterS | nullvoid: eh, sarge *is* stable |
| 05:12.18 | SimonRaven | spamming even |
| 05:12.27 | riv3t | also |
| 05:12.38 | riv3t | whats the best cd burning program? |
| 05:12.40 | riv3t | toast? |
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| 05:13.10 | nullvoid | peterS: ops! heh my mind was outdated hehehhe |
| 05:13.12 | nullvoid | heh |
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| 05:13.44 | peterS | you were thinking of woody, which has been petrified |
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| 05:14.15 | riv3t | whats the best cd burning program? |
| 05:14.27 | peterS | riv3t: for what value of "best"? lots of people like k3b |
| 05:14.31 | riv3t | well, one that is pretty east to use |
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| 05:14.48 | peterS | start with k3b and see what you think |
| 05:15.11 | riv3t | ok |
| 05:15.12 | riv3t | thanks |
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| 05:15.36 | aedwards | I can't rm /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES or ls -la /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES...what to do, I am unable to stat that file? |
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| 05:15.56 | aedwards | I now stopping apt-get install |
| 05:16.06 | peterS | aedwards: oh hmmm. possibly a kernel bug, a filesystem inconsistency |
| 05:16.22 | peterS | aedwards: unmounting /usr would be a lot of trouble, so your best bet is to try rebooting |
| 05:16.25 | aedwards | uname -a |
| 05:16.36 | aedwards | wrong window |
| 05:17.11 | aedwards | I am running 2.6.12.15...is there a specific option I need to make sure is compiled into the kernel? |
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| 05:17.45 | peterS | aedwards: no, it's not a matter of something that is missing from your kernel - just, quite possibly, you have a kernel bug or something that is showing itself in a strange way |
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| 05:18.24 | tcsetattr | bad hard drive sector - check dmesg |
| 05:18.34 | aedwards | okay...I will give the reboot a try and if that does not work different kernels I guess. |
| 05:18.43 | aedwards | Thanks peterS |
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| 05:18.53 | peterS | aedwards: hmmmm |
| 05:19.12 | peterS | aedwards: see if you can boot with 'init=/bin/sh' then fsck the /usr partition by hand with 'fsck -y /dev/hda5' or whatever |
| 05:19.27 | peterS | aedwards: because it's not certain whether the boot process would normally do so - depends on the nature of the bug |
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| 05:19.40 | peterS | aedwards: I mean fsck -f, not fsck -y |
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| 05:19.58 | tcsetattr | touch /forcefsck |
| 05:20.13 | peterS | tcsetattr: does that force fsck of non-root partitions too, then? |
| 05:20.35 | Muffie | hello all. I have downloaded Ati drivers installation (56mb) from Ati Website. I have installed ok, but lsmod does not show fglrx. I cant even use modprobe fglrx. Anyone can help me? |
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| 05:21.01 | peterS | tcsetattr: ahh, it does. good to know. |
| 05:21.15 | peterS | aedwards: did you get that? "touch /forcefsck" before rebooting, then boot normally |
| 05:21.32 | aedwards | got it |
| 05:21.34 | Muffie | modprobe search for modules in wich folder? |
| 05:21.52 | peterS | Muffie: /lib/modules/$(uname -r) is the first place it looks |
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| 05:22.19 | tcsetattr | I never considered the possibility that it might mean only the root... |
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| 05:22.49 | Muffie | peterS: inside my /lib/modules I have this: 2.6.8-2-k7 and fglrx |
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| 05:23.07 | Muffie | peterS: probably I need to move fglrx inside 2.6.8-2.k7? |
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| 05:23.24 | peterS | Muffie: the debian contrib fglrx installer package should have taken care of that for you |
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| 05:23.48 | Muffie | peterS: What should I use to get it? apt-get? |
| 05:23.59 | peterS | Muffie: I forget, I don't use that driver |
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| 05:24.39 | nullvoid | peterS: is this statement = true? Unofficial packages for sarge are available through the Debian volatile project. They are usually more recent than official ones and they are maintained by Stephen Gran too |
| 05:24.42 | peterS | Muffie: come to think of it I'm not sure debian contrib has that installer package anymore |
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| 05:25.04 | peterS | nullvoid: ask stephen gran, I have no idea |
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| 05:25.22 | nullvoid | I got this in clamav page |
| 05:25.32 | nullvoid | it's ok |
| 05:25.41 | Muffie | peterS: Ok. Can I move a directory named fglrx with several ".o" inside to /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/ ? |
| 05:25.42 | peterS | don't ask me whether to believe them or not. do your own fact checking |
| 05:25.51 | nullvoid | ok |
| 05:26.00 | peterS | Muffie: I'm dubious that anything containing a lot of .o files is going to work at all |
| 05:26.04 | litage | when would you use a layer-2 rather than layer-3 switch, and vice versa? |
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| 05:26.14 | peterS | Muffie: kernel modules in 2.6 kernels always end with .ko. so your files might have been compiled for a 2.4 kernel |
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| 05:26.25 | KQ_ | Hello |
| 05:26.29 | peterS | litage: is this homework? |
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| 05:27.07 | litage | peterS: heh no |
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| 05:27.26 | peterS | litage: sorry, the way you phrased it, it sounded like a homework question. layer 3 means IP, layer 2 means Ethernet. a layer 3 switch has some features that have to do with peeking inside the IP headers |
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| 05:27.31 | litage | peterS: i'm looking into a managed switch for home use, but don't have much networking experience |
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| 05:27.42 | nullvoid | peterS: how do I remove the key I install just now? |
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| 05:27.52 | jm_ | managed switch for home? yeah right |
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| 05:27.55 | peterS | nullvoid: 'man gpg' can tell you all about it |
| 05:28.05 | litage | peterS: no problemo. it's always best to ask re: homework =P |
| 05:28.16 | peterS | nullvoid: that's a coded way of saying "either I could read the manpage to give you a good answer, or you could read it to give yourself a good answer" |
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| 05:28.41 | peterS | litage: jm_ is right, managed switches are generally overkill for a home network |
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| 05:29.05 | peterS | I mean, do what you want with your own money, but I can't see the need even with a large household |
| 05:29.13 | WiFiTux | cafuego: that is strange. |
| 05:29.15 | litage | jm_, peterS: i want to learn, and the best way to do it is with the real stuff |
| 05:29.21 | lilo | is there a policy that allows tor users to use #debian ? |
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| 05:29.50 | peterS | lilo: tor users are a great target market for usercloaks |
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| 05:29.58 | litage | peterS: apart from ip header reading/manip, are there any other differences between layer-2 and -3 switches? |
| 05:30.02 | lilo | peterS: hmmm? |
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| 05:30.18 | lilo | peterS: well, you probably don't know which group cloak owners use tor, it's not normally visible |
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| 05:30.27 | peterS | lilo: by getting a usercloak you can avoid any bans on *.tor, without giving away your IP address |
| 05:30.31 | lilo | peterS: there's a small race condition but we're working on that, normally, they just get their group cloaks |
| 05:30.41 | lilo | peterS: generic cloaks don't override tor bans |
| 05:30.46 | lilo | peterS: erm tor cloaks |
| 05:30.54 | lilo | peterS: they'd have to get a group cloak |
| 05:31.06 | peterS | oh, I meant the "unaffiliated" cloaks (or other ones), not the tor hostmask magic |
| 05:31.08 | nimak | i need some help with google video |
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| 05:31.19 | lilo | peterS: unaffiliated cloaks do not normally override tor cloaks |
| 05:31.25 | nullvoid | peterS: which one is the keyname? |
| 05:31.38 | nimak | im trying to play google video with mplayer and mozplugger |
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| 05:31.42 | lilo | peterS: authentic group cloaks do |
| 05:31.48 | nullvoid | ok got it |
| 05:31.57 | peterS | nullvoid: eh? in gpg you can specify keys by their 0xNNNNNNNN ID string, or by any unique part of the email address or "name" field |
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| 05:32.06 | Dewi | I have no idea what "tor", "ban" or "cloak" are. This is confusing even by #debian standards. |
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| 05:32.13 | nullvoid | peterS: thanks |
| 05:32.19 | lilo | peterS: it's set up that way because 'unaffiliated' cloaks don't require much reputation commitment |
| 05:32.45 | peterS | lilo: and yet they're very easy to target-ban. tor cloaks aren't. if you don't want to ban all of tor, you can't really ban any of it |
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| 05:33.02 | peterS | or has *that* problem been solved? |
| 05:33.10 | lilo | peterS: #debian bans all of it that it can be found |
| 05:33.24 | lilo | peterS: there's no way to solve it.... Tor provides privacy |
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| 05:33.36 | peterS | lilo: right, the alternative is to ban nobody who uses tor. that's pretty disruptive when you have a few bad apples who use tor |
| 05:33.51 | lilo | peterS: well, there are ways to solve it in the long run but they involve reducing anonymity without reducing privacy |
| 05:34.35 | lilo | peterS: well, I notice you guys have a global ban on tor/* .... we've been considering introducing something like a 'tor/regular/*' for regular users who haven't had problems, but even if we did, apparently #debian would still ban them |
| 05:34.48 | lilo | peterS: if you can change your ban to 'tor/session/*' that would remove the problem |
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| 05:34.57 | Muffie | well... how can I install a .deb? |
| 05:35.03 | peterS | lilo: if you made tor cloaks more specific, so as to segregate different sorts of those users, I'm sure the #debian ops would be amenable to talking about narrowing the bans |
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| 05:35.10 | lilo | peterS: even better would be to change it to a +q so that those people can at least come in, register, message someone to ask for an exception |
| 05:35.13 | kapil | Muffie: dpkg -i <filename>.deb |
| 05:35.14 | peterS | lilo: I can't speak for them though |
| 05:35.34 | lilo | I'm not sure if anyone's around....as I say, I had a request from a Tor user and wanted to follow through |
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| 05:35.52 | lilo | I'll have to tell him that for the time being, #debian has all tor users blocked :( |
| 05:36.19 | WiFiTux | what is tor? |
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| 05:36.46 | lilo | WiFiTux: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor talks about it and provides some links I think |
| 05:36.47 | kapil | WiFiTux: apt-cache show tor |
| 05:36.55 | lilo | WiFiTux: it's a project of the Electronic Frontier Foundation |
| 05:37.00 | peterS | !ops lilo has a question about the tor/* ban |
| 05:37.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: lilo has a question about the tor/* ban |
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| 05:37.58 | lilo | I've got to get to sleep |
| 05:38.07 | lilo | I'll pass on what I have so far to the guy |
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| 05:38.12 | WiFiTux | so tor connects you to a lot of routes that are not yoursa? |
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| 05:38.40 | lilo | finally I klined one in the 6 seconds before they leave the channel 8) |
| 05:38.47 | dondelelcaro | lilo: ? |
| 05:38.48 | peterS | WiFiTux: it routes your packets through several random nodes, I guess, which don't keep logs, so it's really hard to trace your actual source |
| 05:38.59 | jbroome | http://tor.eff.org/ |
| 05:39.04 | WiFiTux | peterS: I see. |
| 05:39.06 | lilo | dondelelcaro: I had a user message me about access to #debian ..... he uses Tor |
| 05:39.14 | dondelelcaro | lilo: if they wish to join, and we currently have a +b against tor, they can just /msg an op and ask for a +e |
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| 05:39.23 | dondelelcaro | lilo: a cloak will also let them in. |
| 05:39.25 | lilo | dondelelcaro: how would they normally figure out who the ops are? |
| 05:39.35 | WiFiTux | Why would you ban them? If they know how to use tor, I doubt they are going to troll and stuff. |
| 05:39.37 | lilo | dondelelcaro: an 'unaffiliated' cloak won't help; Tor cloaks override them |
| 05:39.45 | lilo | WiFiTux: there are some people who use it to troll |
| 05:39.59 | dondelelcaro | lilo: *shrug* |
| 05:40.02 | peterS | lilo: "/msg chanserv access #debian list" works, since chanserv doesn't have a minimum access level for that in this channel |
| 05:40.03 | lilo | WiFiTux: and attacks and so on.... generally freenode staff blocks new connects for a while when that happens |
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| 05:40.07 | WiFiTux | lilo: bah. |
| 05:40.17 | lilo | WiFiTux: yeah |
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| 05:40.26 | lilo | WiFiTux: mostly children like the GNAA people |
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| 05:40.34 | WiFiTux | OK, I guess there some idiots around.. |
| 05:40.50 | lilo | dondelelcaro: shall I get him to /msg you? |
| 05:40.52 | WiFiTux | !gnna |
| 05:40.54 | peterS | that doesn't work in all channels, of course |
| 05:41.02 | dondelelcaro | lilo: that would be easiest. |
| 05:41.02 | WiFiTux | !gnaa |
| 05:41.06 | WiFiTux | bah |
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| 05:41.13 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: use /msg please if you must harass the bots |
| 05:41.15 | peterS | WiFiTux: wikipedia can tell you all about them |
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| 05:41.23 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: :) |
| 05:41.50 | lilo | dondelelcaro: done |
| 05:41.50 | WiFiTux | peterS: yeah well. |
| 05:42.08 | peterS | are you a GOY? are you NIGERIAN? are you a GOY NIGERIAN? |
| 05:42.26 | WiFiTux | ? |
| 05:42.30 | lilo | they're kind of obnoxious |
| 05:42.50 | dondelelcaro | please, discuss them elsewhere. |
| 05:42.53 | WiFiTux | cafuego: does errors do look crazy.l |
| 05:42.59 | lilo | they've raised the puerile to a high art |
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| 05:46.07 | marc7 | any suggestions for what to do if sd_mod is hanging the installation? any way around it? |
| 05:46.16 | marc7 | this is when it's autodetecting hardware |
| 05:46.45 | jm_ | tried the expert mode? |
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| 05:47.25 | marc7 | this is like step three |
| 05:48.20 | jm_ | well try it |
| 05:48.41 | looneybird_77590 | i have a wierd problem with my browser. when i do a search on the web, and the results come back, everything is listed twice. when my scroll bar gets halfway down in my window the page starts all over again. |
| 05:49.01 | WiFiTux | how do you say when one gets done on the knees and prays or so... bow? |
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| 05:49.24 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: what, to genuflect? |
| 05:49.32 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: kneel? |
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| 05:50.04 | marc7 | jm: ahh, i see |
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| 05:50.12 | ngmlinux | does anyone here know how to insert modules in ubuntu? |
| 05:50.24 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: huh? no, when you get down and thank for something... bow, baw? |
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| 05:50.59 | carlos | hola |
| 05:51.03 | WiFiTux | hola |
| 05:51.08 | nvz | ngmlinux: modprobe?! ask in #ubuntu try being more specific |
| 05:51.12 | carlos | de donde eres?? |
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| 05:51.25 | ngmlinux | i can't use the #ubuntu chat room |
| 05:51.28 | ngmlinux | nvx |
| 05:51.29 | ngmlinux | nvz |
| 05:51.40 | ngmlinux | something about my nickname |
| 05:51.53 | nvz | ngmlinux: something about being banished maybe? |
| 05:51.56 | ngmlinux | no |
| 05:52.01 | ngmlinux | it says my nickname is in use? |
| 05:52.02 | ngmlinux | idk |
| 05:52.19 | nvz | there is no way your nick is in use there and not here its on the same server |
| 05:52.29 | tengulre | I m coming |
| 05:52.43 | ngmlinux | nvz the error message makes no sense |
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| 05:53.08 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.14 | jm_ | so read the message and fix it, not really #debian's problem |
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| 05:53.40 | carlos | holass |
| 05:53.42 | peterS | ngmlinux: stop being so vague. what's the message? |
| 05:53.43 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 05:53.51 | WiFiTux | carlos: que quiere? |
| 05:53.58 | *** mode/#debian [+e maakud!n=apery@tor/session/*] by dondelelcaro |
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| 05:54.11 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 05:54.13 | carlos | estoy confundido |
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| 05:54.17 | carlos | donde estoy?? |
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| 05:54.27 | dondelelcaro | !spanish |
| 05:54.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:54.32 | WiFiTux | carlos: #debian que quiere!! |
| 05:54.40 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: he doesn't even know where he is. |
| 05:54.51 | jm_ | maybe he's just "high" |
| 05:54.51 | WiFiTux | jesus |
| 05:54.55 | WiFiTux | I bet |
| 05:55.11 | Coke | jesus is busy |
| 05:55.14 | WiFiTux | heh |
| 05:55.24 | carlos | nada solo estaba viendo si funcionaba |
| 05:55.27 | carlos | la coneccion |
| 05:55.33 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
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| 05:55.34 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 05:55.54 | nvz | dondelelcaro: how ... isnt mode +e for identified? |
| 05:56.04 | peterS | nvz: that's for users, he set it for the channel |
| 05:56.06 | jm_ | e is exception, like on Ircnet |
| 05:56.11 | dondelelcaro | nvz: usermode +e, that was chanmode +e, IE, a ban exception |
| 05:56.15 | peterS | nvz: channel modes and user modes don't overlap at all |
| 05:56.37 | nvz | hmm it showed a tor hostname though o_O |
| 05:56.47 | dondelelcaro | yes, indeed it did |
| 05:56.54 | peterS | nvz: right. tor/* are banned, but this guy messaged don and got a ban exception so he could join |
| 05:57.08 | nvz | oh |
| 05:57.10 | jm_ | and that's +E, not +e |
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| 05:57.26 | peterS | jm_: no, +e is identified. you can't set it yourself, nickserv sets it for you |
| 05:57.26 | nvz | no +E is no external messages |
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| 05:57.56 | ngmlinux | username@localhost:/lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media$ modprobe ov51x.ko |
| 05:57.57 | ngmlinux | FATAL: Module ov51x.ko not found. |
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| 05:58.11 | peterS | ngmlinux: with 'modprobe' you don't need the .ko |
| 05:58.16 | jm_ | ahh I see he said it, "identified", why did I think he meant +E is beyond me |
| 05:58.32 | peterS | ngmlinux: however, the module name is ov511 not ov51x |
| 05:58.50 | ngmlinux | username@localhost:/lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media$ sudo insmod ov51x.ko |
| 05:58.50 | ngmlinux | insmod: error inserting 'ov51x.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 05:58.55 | ngmlinux | nope this is a different driver |
| 05:58.58 | peterS | oh ok |
| 05:59.00 | ngmlinux | called ov51x |
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| 05:59.07 | ngmlinux | i wrote part of it |
| 05:59.15 | TraceGreen | Hello, How large about X? |
| 05:59.27 | Guerrrrin | TraceGreen: not very. |
| 05:59.32 | peterS | R, Phatey |
| 05:59.37 | ngmlinux | works on any distro except debain/ubuntu for some reason |
| 05:59.39 | tengulre | TraceGreen: Very big! I think! |
| 05:59.52 | ngmlinux | so i'm assuming there's something different about debian |
| 05:59.57 | ngmlinux | that needs to be done |
| 05:59.58 | TraceGreen | Guerrrrin, or how can i know the size of X? |
| 06:00.04 | jm_ | ngmlinux: you're not using Debian |
| 06:00.10 | ngmlinux | ubuntu debian |
| 06:00.12 | ngmlinux | same thing |
| 06:00.14 | hogmeat | how can i get a directory tree in ascii? |
| 06:00.14 | Guerrrrin | TraceGreen: depends what you want. less than 100MB |
| 06:00.15 | jm_ | no, it's not Debian |
| 06:00.19 | jm_ | hogmeat: man tree |
| 06:00.22 | tengulre | TraceGreen: about 500MB least! |
| 06:00.26 | ngmlinux | debian based |
| 06:00.29 | hogmeat | ty |
| 06:00.36 | jm_ | !tell ngmlinux -about debian based |
| 06:00.37 | Guerrrrin | tengulre: you're full of shit. |
| 06:00.37 | *** part/#debian WiFiTux (n=abonilla@200.91.94.134) |
| 06:00.50 | Phatey | Harsh. |
| 06:00.53 | TraceGreen | Guerrrrin, i just want to know how large about X server. Don't include kde, gnome, etc |
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| 06:00.57 | tengulre | Guerrrrin: what' s you mean? |
| 06:00.59 | Guerrrrin | TraceGreen: base + x is less than 350MB |
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| 06:01.21 | TraceGreen | tengulre, how can i know the size of X server? |
| 06:01.24 | ngmlinux | how can i change my nickname in irc? |
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| 06:01.34 | jm_ | by reading help for your IRC client |
| 06:01.42 | ngmlinux | how can i read help? |
| 06:01.42 | Guerrrrin | TraceGreen: just measuring the size of the server is irrelevant. The server is no use on its own. |
| 06:02.00 | sgeigerbot | ngmlinux: /nick nuB |
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| 06:02.12 | Phatey | Heh. |
| 06:02.13 | jm_ | I don't know, read the documentation that came with it |
| 06:02.27 | TraceGreen | Guerrrrin, oh... thanks very much. |
| 06:03.05 | Phatey | Duuude. |
| 06:03.18 | nuB | X-chat sucks you can't copy and paste |
| 06:03.27 | Phatey | Yes you can. |
| 06:03.33 | nuB | sgeigerbot that does nothign |
| 06:03.35 | Phatey | Hilight, middle-click ought to work. |
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| 06:03.40 | Phatey | nuB: Yes, it does, you idiot. |
| 06:03.45 | nuB | middleclick? |
| 06:03.54 | nuB | only have left and right |
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| 06:04.01 | Phatey | DOES middleclicking work in xchat? I dunno. |
| 06:04.23 | Phatey | nuB: If you asked your x server to emulate three buttons, you can get middleclick by clicking them both. |
| 06:04.27 | cahoot | Phatey: then why call him idiot? |
| 06:04.43 | black_13 | what type of files system image does cloop mount |
| 06:04.48 | jm_ | because he acts like one? |
| 06:05.20 | Phatey | cahoot: nuB> | sgeigerbot that does nothign |
| 06:05.21 | ngmlinux_ | doesn't |
| 06:05.26 | ngmlinux_ | but thanx Phatey |
| 06:05.28 | Phatey | cahoot: It was in reference to /nick. |
| 06:06.02 | ngmlinux_ | hi |
| 06:06.18 | ngmlinux_ | /join #ubuntu |
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| 06:06.23 | Phatey | Urgh. |
| 06:06.25 | ngmlinux_ | /join #ubuntu |
| 06:06.31 | Phatey | cahoot: ^ I think I'm justified now. :) |
| 06:06.41 | ngmlinux_ | /join #ubuntu |
| 06:06.44 | ngmlinux_ | ughh |
| 06:06.58 | jbroome | hahaha |
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| 06:07.10 | jbroome | fourth time is the charm |
| 06:07.22 | ngmlinux_ | /join #ubuntu |
| 06:07.29 | Phatey | xchat really does suck, doesn't it. |
| 06:07.30 | Jamsi | This squirrelmail "You must be logged in to access this page" error is pissing me off |
| 06:07.32 | jbroome | maybe not |
| 06:07.33 | peterS | someone should create a debian derivative for central African tribes and call it (u)bantu |
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| 06:07.54 | Phatey | I think ubuntu WAS derived from some African word. |
| 06:08.00 | peterS | yes but it's south african |
| 06:08.02 | cheal | ngmlinux_: /part #debian |
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| 06:08.05 | Phatey | Aaah. |
| 06:08.08 | jm_ | yeah emphasis being on central ;) |
| 06:08.32 | peterS | bantu is a language family / people group mostly in central africa |
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| 06:08.55 | peterS | well, people group group. a large group. don't know what to call it exactly. |
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| 06:09.06 | Phatey | Tribe? Collective? |
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| 06:09.10 | jbroome | posse' |
| 06:09.10 | peterS | lots of tribes |
| 06:09.13 | ngmlinux_ | #flodo |
| 06:09.14 | Phatey | Ethnicity? |
| 06:09.19 | Phatey | Oh, no, that would be wrong. |
| 06:09.21 | ngmlinux_ | /join #ubuntu |
| 06:09.29 | WhoAreYou | if Debian was a person, or a family, I would have already commited triple homicide |
| 06:09.37 | jbroome | ngmlinux_: do you dress yourself? |
| 06:09.42 | scarynetworkguy | Phatey: Clan I think. |
| 06:09.57 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: well, it's multiple tribes. a clan is smaller than a tribe. |
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| 06:10.07 | Phatey | ngmlinux_: FFS. Learn to use your client properly. |
| 06:10.08 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: Nooooo. Not really. |
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| 06:10.52 | peterS | I'm actually not sure how many people, or how many tribes, have the bantu nature. not even a reasonable estimate. |
| 06:11.08 | peterS | dozens or possibly hundreds of tribes, though, if I'm not terribly mistaken |
| 06:11.26 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: That and it was mostly invented by the brits for admin purposes. Not a real historical thing by any means. |
| 06:12.00 | peterS | why would a language family name be invented for administrative purposes? that hardly makes sense |
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| 06:12.41 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: Go read the history. It ain't a language group that was all bolted on later. |
| 06:13.15 | peterS | a lot of 'em weren't even in british colonies. this still doesn't make sense. |
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| 06:14.58 | Jamsi | Does anyone know if squirrelmail ONLY works with imap? |
| 06:15.01 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: Oh my bad. I was thinking of the other ones. Not bantu. |
| 06:15.39 | peterS | Jamsi: as far as I've heard it's only an imap client. but I could be wrong, I don't actually use it |
| 06:15.57 | Jamsi | Cheers. |
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| 06:16.09 | jm_ | would Debian package depend on some IMAP server in that case? |
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| 06:16.35 | sep | jm_, unlikely since squirrelmail can talk toa remote imap |
| 06:16.36 | ngmlinux_ | linux may spontainously delete itself |
| 06:16.43 | ngmlinux_ | it's a tinker os not a relaibl |
| 06:16.45 | ngmlinux_ | on |
| 06:16.46 | ngmlinux_ | e |
| 06:16.48 | jm_ | sep: it should read "wouldn't" :) |
| 06:16.59 | maja | how do i reinstall apt-get ? |
| 06:17.00 | jm_ | ngmlinux_: right, so just go back to Windows |
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| 06:18.15 | prjktdtnt | im trying to setup proftpd on my new box and I cant seem to access it via anywhere outside of localhost |
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| 06:18.18 | sep | jm_, ?? umm my english grade was lousy i admit it.. dont think your norwegian is any better :) |
| 06:18.33 | prjktdtnt | any suggestions? |
| 06:18.38 | maakud | Jamsi: squirrelmail only imap client. |
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| 06:19.04 | error | sk |
| 06:19.04 | sep | prjktdtnt, dont know proftp package, but as allways have you read in /usr/share/doc/proftp ? |
| 06:19.14 | cafuego | Jamsi: I think it wants at least ONE imap account, yes. |
| 06:20.09 | prjktdtnt | sep: there's nothing usefull in there |
| 06:21.03 | sep | prjktdtnt, and you have read thru the config file ? |
| 06:21.17 | prjktdtnt | sep: not quite sure where it is |
| 06:21.20 | maakud | prjktdtnt: look in /usr/share/doc/proftpd-common |
| 06:21.24 | jm_ | there doesn't even seem to be a plugin to read mbox |
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| 06:21.45 | prjktdtnt | maakud: just copywrite and changelog |
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| 06:22.18 | prjktdtnt | maakud: where would the config file normally be? |
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| 06:22.28 | sep | jm_, Jamsi these it a fetchmail plugin, so you can fetch mail from a pop3 into your imap server |
| 06:22.39 | prjktdtnt | using dpkg-reconfigure proftpd it just asked wether to run as daemon or standalone |
| 06:22.45 | sep | prjktdtnt, wild guess something like /etc/prof[tab] |
| 06:22.47 | prjktdtnt | i use daemonised |
| 06:22.54 | jm_ | sep: yeah I saw that, but quick glance didn't come up with mbox/maildir/whatever plugin |
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| 06:23.18 | maakud | prjktdtnt: look in /usr/share/doc/proftpd/examples/proftpd.conf |
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| 06:23.42 | maakud | prjktdtnt: actual config file is /etc/proftpd.conf |
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| 06:24.16 | jm_ | sep: btw, about my Norwegian, according to some Finns I have spoken it a few times in my life :) |
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| 06:24.22 | prjktdtnt | maakud: thx on that one |
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| 06:24.46 | sep | my head hurts... it's too early for grammar :) |
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| 06:24.52 | maakud | prjktdtnt: be careful with opening ftp server. have fun. :) |
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| 06:25.35 | jm_ | I really have to figure out this EAGAIN thing from read() |
| 06:25.56 | sep | arent there a secure ftp server that simply posts a mtod with a link to winscp and nothing else ? :) |
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| 06:26.11 | prjktdtnt | maakud: im working on the transition from a windows based server to debian server so as you can tell its a lil confusing to my newbie self |
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| 06:26.19 | ircdevil | sftp? part of ssh |
| 06:26.31 | prjktdtnt | ircdevil: something like that |
| 06:26.46 | ircdevil | !sftp |
| 06:26.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sftp is a program that provides ftp-like functionality over an ssh2 tunnel. "apt-get install ssh". |
| 06:26.51 | sep | i just install winscp on my clients computers, config a profile, and make a shortcut to it labeled 'FTP'.. they never know they are secure.. |
| 06:27.15 | jm_ | sftp is a bit of a pain to use though, use lftp instead |
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| 06:27.20 | ircdevil | sep: please educate ppl. dont mixup ftp and ssh |
| 06:27.23 | prjktdtnt | sep: my "clients" are usually not around to do that with and on top of that are usually pretty dumb |
| 06:27.24 | maakud | there is also ftp-ssl. is it on windoze too? |
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| 06:27.33 | prjktdtnt | sep: considering they are only friends lol |
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| 06:27.52 | prjktdtnt | maakud: dunno never used ssl stuff |
| 06:27.55 | sep | ircdevil, ill add a S to the FTP :) |
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| 06:28.02 | ircdevil | sep: good |
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| 06:28.37 | sep | ircdevil, and i can't stand talking to them for long im afraid il use words like folder and my computer ... |
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| 06:28.50 | omry_ | ircdevil, its not such a lie, you know. scp IS a file transfer protocol. :) |
| 06:28.55 | peterS | jm_: what about EAGAIN in read? |
| 06:29.26 | prjktdtnt | i have webmin but its not helping any...i havent had any problems with connecting from linux but the second i try a winedows box it doesnt like it |
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| 06:29.54 | jm_ | peterS: just a sec, I'm looking through the code again |
| 06:30.06 | sep | ircdevil, but knowing most of my users, they will probably think i made a typo, rename it to FTP, in addition to the new shortcuts FTP(1) FTP(2) and SFTP(1) .... |
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| 06:30.17 | maakud | prjktdtnt: from another linux box or same linux box? |
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| 06:30.33 | sep | prjktdtnt, webmin is actualy more trubble then it's worth. |
| 06:30.45 | nvz | sep: there you go.. using words like "shrotcut" |
| 06:31.02 | prjktdtnt | sep: yea but for my transitioning period it has been helping (a little, very little) |
| 06:31.03 | sep | *ARRGH* running screeaming around in my cubicle |
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| 06:32.07 | prjktdtnt | well gotta make a phonecall...will be back |
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| 06:32.38 | sep | !tell prjktdtnt about away |
| 06:33.08 | peterS | at least he's not doing my wife |
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| 06:33.41 | sep | peterS, how would you know ? |
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| 06:33.58 | peterS | sep: easy, I don't have a wife |
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| 06:34.18 | nvz | heh, thats what I was just thinking |
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| 06:34.56 | sep | heh :) |
| 06:35.19 | nvz | I mean about peterS not having a wife, not what you said |
| 06:35.39 | jm_ | peterS: ok it's actually using recv(), and according to the man page it may mean two things, however that doesn't tell me much (I think generic practice is to just read again, but for me it means it's chewing CPU because it's constantly being triggered by select) |
| 06:35.39 | streuner | less headaches :-) |
| 06:36.20 | prjktdtnt | ok then thanks sep |
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| 06:42.40 | madradrone | anyone have any idea what this error could be - i see it when depmod gets run at the end of "make modules_install" for a 2.6.13 kernel: "snd-usb-audio.ko needs unknown symbol __compound_literal" |
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| 06:42.51 | sandman | What's the general consensus on "hibernate"? |
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| 06:43.00 | sandman | Does it work well? Is there a better option? Whowah. |
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| 06:43.51 | madradrone | sandman: i'm trying it now but not having much luck. apm suspend-to-ram used to work great though |
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| 06:44.20 | wawa01 | hai |
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| 06:45.52 | maakud | madradrone: using stock debian kernel or hand-compiled? |
| 06:46.10 | wawa01 | ?? |
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| 06:46.28 | mwilson | madradrone: What it could be? Gee, don't you kind of think it means what the message says? It's not written in code or anything. |
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| 06:47.02 | madradrone | mwilson: where to find such a symbol? |
| 06:47.11 | mwilson | Oh, brother. |
| 06:47.12 | madradrone | or how to provide it? |
| 06:47.28 | madradrone | or it is not being recognized |
| 06:47.57 | maakud | madradrone: please not using self-compiled kernel until absolutely necessary. |
| 06:48.01 | mwilson | Forget it, I can't get into this. My teeth are grinding. |
| 06:48.59 | madradrone | maakud: ? |
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| 06:49.16 | mwilson | madradrone: Please, since you don't have any idea of what you're doing, don't build your own kernels. |
| 06:49.43 | kapil | madradrone: std. debian question. why are you compiling? do you *need* non standard kernel? |
| 06:49.52 | wawa01 | hai guys |
| 06:49.53 | nvz | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/userpics/angry7.gif <- mwilson on #debian heh :P |
| 06:50.05 | wawa01 | :~) |
| 06:50.35 | madradrone | yes, i need it. testing swsusp2 2.6.13 patch. |
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| 06:51.07 | mwilson | You don't know how to build a kernel, and you're "testing" out-of-band patches? |
| 06:51.12 | mwilson | Must be some testing. |
| 06:51.18 | ozzloy | how do i kill all processes related to firefox? |
| 06:51.22 | maakud | ok. that's a good reason. |
| 06:51.37 | drac | ozzloy: killall -9 firefox-bin |
| 06:52.12 | madradrone | maakud: what does the unknown symbol error mean? it means the module for snd-usb is requiring something in kernel but not finding it? i have full usb support enabled |
| 06:52.17 | ozzloy | thanx |
| 06:52.32 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: it means your module isn't built for your kernel. |
| 06:52.36 | deadcat | drac: tcl is recommented (default 3), whats the diff between 1 and 3? |
| 06:52.42 | ozzloy | thanx again drac |
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| 06:52.45 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: don't bother; you clearly have no idea what you're doing. |
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| 06:52.51 | madradrone | maakud: FYI, the same kernel .config under 2.6.12 does not give this unknown symbol error. maybe its a bug with that driver in 2.6.13? |
| 06:53.11 | drac | deadcat: Some games tend to flicker, get glitchy, lag, without pushing pipeline to hardware |
| 06:53.21 | drac | deadcat: For rest of applications, I haven't seen any difference. |
| 06:53.26 | kapil | madradrone: did you make the compilation without the swsusp patch? |
| 06:53.29 | deadcat | drac: ah. cool. |
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| 06:53.47 | madradrone | kapil: ugh, no. i should try that. |
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| 06:54.32 | nvz | you could probably build deb packages for the kernel images, modules, and source and build the swsup modules later |
| 06:54.33 | mwilson | Of course, he won't bother to clean out /lib, and the same thing or worse will happen. |
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| 06:54.44 | llm | hey |
| 06:54.47 | nvz | though I dont know what all it patches |
| 06:54.47 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: it's not a bug; it's a user error. |
| 06:54.58 | llm | why cant apt-get find php? |
| 06:55.05 | llm | what is the deb called?? |
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| 06:55.11 | silverton | llm, php4 or php5 |
| 06:55.15 | llm | k |
| 06:55.16 | llm | thx |
| 06:55.17 | Guerrrrin | llm: because you're not searching for it properly |
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| 06:55.43 | nvz | llm: maybe it cant find it because you made up package names instead of "searching" for it with apt-cache search |
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| 06:56.30 | llm | nvz i wil remember that to next time :) |
| 06:56.46 | silverton | yes, apt-cache search++ |
| 06:56.55 | wookie | hi, im looking for some help trouble shooting DHCP....what can i use to see if a lease is being asked for? |
| 06:56.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell llm -about search |
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| 06:56.59 | llm | Package php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 06:57.03 | madradrone | swsusp2 is a pretty massive diff so i wouldn't be surprised if its causing the error |
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| 06:57.29 | jm_ | wookie: tcpdump et al |
| 06:57.33 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: unresolved symbol errors ARE NOT A PATCHING PROBLEM |
| 06:57.35 | dondelelcaro | !+info php5 |
| 06:57.35 | nvz | llm: ffs use apt-cache search |
| 06:57.40 | dpkg | php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 06:57.47 | nvz | its not in sarge afaik |
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| 06:57.58 | Pasternak | wookie, +dhcpdump |
| 06:57.59 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: they are most explicitly a compilation error caused by building a module against the wrong kernel source or headers |
| 06:58.03 | dondelelcaro | llm: as you can see, it's in unstable, but isn't in stable. There may be backports of it available. |
| 06:58.23 | llm | You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
| 06:58.23 | llm | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
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| 06:58.28 | llm | thats with php4 |
| 06:58.34 | llm | is it okay? |
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| 06:58.37 | Guerrrrin | llm: it tells you how to fix it. |
| 06:58.44 | Guerrrrin | llm: follow the instructions already. |
| 06:58.48 | madradrone | Guerrrrin: then how could snd-usb, which is part of the 2.6.13 kernel tree, possibly have the wrong source or headers? |
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| 06:59.03 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: did you build it yourself? |
| 06:59.06 | chrizzly | hi to all |
| 06:59.10 | madradrone | Guerrrrin: yes |
| 06:59.16 | Guerrrrin | madradrone: you have your answer. |
| 06:59.35 | madradrone | umm |
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| 06:59.45 | bris | salut |
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| 07:01.01 | nvz | !hello bris |
| 07:01.04 | maakud | llm: please running apt-get -f install. |
| 07:01.12 | nvz | or not :P |
| 07:01.16 | ozzloy | how do i get my sound to work so all applications can play sound even when others are playing sound with this card: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) |
| 07:01.50 | Guerrrrin | !dmix |
| 07:01.50 | dpkg | i heard dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 07:01.57 | ozzloy | it plays sound, and i've read things about using dplug with alsa, but i've never gotten it to work |
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| 07:02.17 | notPoncha | hi ;) |
| 07:02.30 | maakud | ozzloy: please to create .asoundrc as explained in the link. |
| 07:02.40 | ozzloy | maakud, on it |
| 07:02.49 | maakud | ozzloy: alsa is automatic in kernel 2.6 |
| 07:02.54 | poncha|work | there is some strange behavior of apt i've just seen :) |
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| 07:03.03 | nvz | maakud: I wouldnt say that. |
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| 07:03.37 | maakud | nvz: sorry. it is automatically part of kernel 2.6. no need to compile separately. |
| 07:03.45 | poncha|work | trying to install some pkg (ffmpeg in this case, but i seen that on some others as well), apt says it has to REMOVE initrd-tools and current kernel image.... |
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| 07:04.02 | nvz | maakud: I wouldnt use automatic in any form, but yes its part of the source tree now |
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| 07:04.19 | Guerrrrin | poncha|work: what branch of debian? |
| 07:04.20 | poncha|work | however if i manually update initrd-tools first, apt does not discover initrd "has to go" :) |
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| 07:04.26 | poncha|work | Guerrrrin, sarge |
| 07:04.29 | maakud | poncha|work: most likely you are mixing stable/testing/unstable incorrectly. |
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| 07:04.38 | Guerrrrin | poncha|work: ONLY sarge? |
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| 07:05.10 | poncha|work | Guerrrrin, probably there s a package or two from sid... of year ago ) |
| 07:05.23 | Guerrrrin | poncha|work: ... |
| 07:05.33 | poncha|work | Guerrrrin, but strange is that instead of *upgrading* initrd it first attempts to remove it |
| 07:05.36 | rss | which ones? |
| 07:06.22 | poncha|work | Guerrrrin, (and the packages that were from sid originally are for sure unrelated to initrd :P ) |
| 07:06.54 | maakud | rss: you are wrong. I'm using simple irc client. no scripts. |
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| 07:07.22 | rss | ":P", meant that I was kidding. |
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| 07:07.43 | toby17 | hi.. anyone know where to get php_zlib.dll for PHP 4.3.11 (windows) ? |
| 07:07.55 | rx-182 | is there a planned rls date for etch? will it include latest xorg and gnome? when deb3.1 was rls'ed people kept saying that the rls cycle would be improved...but more than 3months theres no news about an upcoming deb rls |
| 07:07.56 | nvz | heh |
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| 07:08.10 | cheal | toby17: PHP folks? |
| 07:08.13 | maakud | rss: you are smart. you are quickly deducting newbie status of mine on irc. |
| 07:08.14 | nvz | toby17: you've got to be kidding, you do realize where you are at right? |
| 07:08.29 | rss | toby17: get that triad thing |
| 07:08.38 | cheal | toby17: BTW, #debian stands for Debian's support channel |
| 07:08.40 | rss | nvz: circumstances. |
| 07:08.40 | nvz | toby17: go with cheal's suggestion and ask somewhere more appropriate like #php |
| 07:09.05 | maakud | rx-182: debian is releasing etch faster than it released sarge :) |
| 07:09.05 | rss | toby17, please check in #php |
| 07:09.44 | nvz | rss: oh please. dont bother even saying anything if you cant use more than one word. :P Under no circumstances is a win32 php dynamic link library on topic here |
| 07:09.45 | rx-182 | maakud: is there some site tracking the rls? |
| 07:09.49 | poncha|work | Guerrrrin, the "strange behavior" i'm talking about is - (1) there is more recent (higher than installed) version of initrd-tools available in sources; (2) current initrd version is not suitable for some reason (although i have no slightest idea how it got from ffmpgeg to initrad at all), (3) instead of upgrading the version to one available from sources, apt tries to remove the pkg :) (whih , should i have agreed, would also have removed the ke |
| 07:09.49 | poncha|work | rnel *ouch* :)) |
| 07:09.52 | cheal | rx-182: there's no date |
| 07:10.06 | cheal | rx-182: we can't guess the rest |
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| 07:10.22 | maakud | rx-182: there is not site but suite. called testing. |
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| 07:10.44 | rss | maakud, Debian must have mad lots of profit from Sarge so they are releasing etch sooner! ;) |
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| 07:10.49 | poncha|work | ^^ and that same run was ok after "apt-get install initrd-tools" (which upgraded it ) |
| 07:10.52 | cheal | maakud: I don't think that's what he's asking about |
| 07:11.03 | maakud | rx-182: who not enjoying stable? has lot of good stuff. |
| 07:11.09 | vladuz976 | anybody here have experience with turtlebeach soundcards? |
| 07:11.18 | rss | nvz... I have experienced such a situation earlier |
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| 07:12.03 | poncha|work | maakud, yeah , has lots of stuff... but year before sarge went stable woody packages were yet *stable* but seriousely outdated :) |
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| 07:12.27 | rx-182 | stable is way too much outdated...it was outdated prior the rls...they should have waited a bit more... (we were used to wait anyway :PP) |
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| 07:12.36 | rss | nvz, after a weeks of googling, asking in different fora, mailing manufacturer(it was a hardware problem)... I finally got solution from #debian |
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| 07:12.48 | maakud | rx-182: latest != greatest. |
| 07:13.09 | poncha|work | rx-182, i hope you're not running sid on some production server ? :P |
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| 07:13.17 | rx-182 | no |
| 07:13.20 | cheal | rx-182: ha-ha |
| 07:13.21 | rx-182 | im running stable |
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| 07:13.24 | maakud | rx-182: bleeding edge makes users bleed --- old jungle saying. |
| 07:13.30 | rx-182 | but i want xorg and latest gnome :| |
| 07:13.35 | rx-182 | at leat xorg |
| 07:13.38 | rx-182 | least* |
| 07:13.44 | poncha|work | rx-182, on a server? :) wtf? :) |
| 07:13.48 | rx-182 | oh |
| 07:13.50 | rx-182 | desktop |
| 07:13.51 | rss | forgive my ignorance but what does "!=" mean? "is not equal to"? |
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| 07:13.54 | ozzloy | maakud, it seems to be working. i've made .asoundrcs before, but they'd always didn't quite work. gaim wouldn't play sounds if i was listening to internet radio for example |
| 07:14.02 | rx-182 | rss:yeah heh |
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| 07:14.05 | john | anybody know much about mounting a usb jump drive? once again, not for me, but for a friend.. but i've NEVER had to do it, so i'm unsure. |
| 07:14.09 | fireba11 | good morning everyone |
| 07:14.10 | poncha|work | as for the desktop... i am running sid on it ... for couple of years now... |
| 07:14.11 | maakud | rx-182: yes. in many languages. |
| 07:14.19 | ozzloy | thanx, so far gaim and internet radio wrks with this .asoundrc, idk about everything else though |
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| 07:14.27 | poncha|work | so yeah here and there problems arise when someone breaks deps or sth... :) |
| 07:14.28 | maakud | ozzloy: enjoy. |
| 07:14.38 | rss | I ran Sid for years... now I am content with Sarge |
| 07:14.40 | poncha|work | but apart from that i am okay with how my desktop runs :) |
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| 07:15.07 | rx-182 | im a bit scared of sid |
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| 07:15.46 | ozzloy | maakud, thanx |
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| 07:15.55 | maakud | rx-182: to help faster release you can run etch and contribute to bts (=Bug Tracking System). |
| 07:16.05 | rss | I have learnt that Sarge polluted with a few packages from Sid or unooficial sources can be more harmful than using Sid. |
| 07:16.17 | poncha|work | so... whats the maximum impact? you gonna have to dig and spend a day to find out why your X no longer works after some update? :P |
| 07:16.46 | maakud | folks. why are people using sarge+sid instead of sarge+etch? |
| 07:16.59 | rx-182 | maakud: yeah i could :P |
| 07:17.24 | rss | poncha|work: and it is very much PITA to find that out |
| 07:17.27 | maakud | rx-182: xorg will be in etch "any day now". |
| 07:17.29 | mwilson | poncha|work: Or why you can't log in at all, or why your box is owned since PAM is broken and anyone can log in with any password, or etc, etc, etc |
| 07:17.31 | ozzloy | maakud, sweet! mplayer, gaim, and vlc all played stuff at the same time! |
| 07:17.49 | poncha|work | maakud, in my case that was "several packages from sid" cause etch did not exist yet and i used testing (sarge then) on a server :) (but still needed newer ver. of smth :) |
| 07:18.04 | maakud | ozzloy: please be careful. people in neighbouring cubicles will object :) |
| 07:18.05 | mwilson | poncha|work: If you can't deal with someone walking into your home, taking the box, and NEVER giving it back, you shouldn't be running unstable. |
| 07:18.12 | poncha|work | mwilson, yeah... but well... its a desktop :) |
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| 07:18.29 | cheal | maakud: who's doing that? |
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| 07:18.36 | mwilson | poncha|work: What does "it's a desktop" have to do with anything? What does that even mean? |
| 07:18.38 | llm | i have installed php4 restarted apache but it still isent working |
| 07:18.53 | Esaj | mwilson: bah, I've used unstable for years with no problems |
| 07:19.09 | Coke | llm: you have to enable it also |
| 07:19.14 | ozzloy | maakud, currently at home but i'll keep that in mind :) |
| 07:19.15 | rss | mwilson: he means, he can risk running Sid on a desktop not for a server. |
| 07:19.15 | Coke | llm: do you use apache2? |
| 07:19.19 | poncha|work | mwilson, risking to loose my desktop... what am i actually putting in risk? thats my point... |
| 07:19.39 | cheal | maakud: X.org is in etch since a while now |
| 07:19.58 | poncha|work | mwilson, loosing a server is far far worse :) |
| 07:20.03 | maakud | poncha|work: did you read document on running stable with some packages from etch? |
| 07:20.09 | mwilson | Oh, because it's a "desktop", that means it never does any serious work, so we can go ahead and destroy it. Do you know how CLUELESS that sounds? |
| 07:20.14 | llm | Coke yes |
| 07:20.24 | llm | howto?? |
| 07:20.29 | maakud | cheal: oh. im so out of date. |
| 07:20.45 | Coke | llm: check out /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to get a clue. list that dir. |
| 07:21.07 | poncha|work | maakud, s/etch/testing/ yeah i recall reading smth like that (but then it wasnt about etch probably :)) |
| 07:21.13 | smhar | I have vlc 0.8.2 but I want to install 0.8.1 how could I do that? |
| 07:21.16 | saloxin | llm: install libapache-mod-php4 ? |
| 07:21.23 | maakud | Esaj: we are very grateful to you. |
| 07:21.27 | rx-182 | i might move to testing then |
| 07:21.36 | saloxin | llm: er for apache2 add a "2" |
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| 07:22.01 | maakud | rx-182: pl. read document about how to put only a few packages from testing at a time. |
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| 07:22.27 | cheal | smhar: which release do you run? |
| 07:22.42 | mwilson | cheal: There is only one "release". |
| 07:22.58 | cheal | mwilson: what do you mean? |
| 07:23.02 | maakud | smhar: if vlc not critical then remove vlc using deborphan. that will clean all dependencies as well. |
| 07:23.07 | llm | lnn139:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# more php4.conf |
| 07:23.07 | llm | <IfModule mod_php4.c> |
| 07:23.07 | llm | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.07 | llm | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.07 | llm | </IfModule> |
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| 07:23.13 | smhar | cheal, debian testing |
| 07:23.15 | poncha|work | mwilson, besides... maybe i'm too lucky :) but the problems that you describe (yet probable) but never occured to my desktop machine during last couple of years :)) [i should have mentioned the fact my desk is behind firewall and even has not got its own real-world ip :)) |
| 07:23.16 | llm | sorry :) |
| 07:23.20 | mwilson | What I said, actually... which is kind of why I said it. |
| 07:23.24 | llm | but isent that right? |
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| 07:23.25 | cheal | smhar: why do you have 0.8.2 ? |
| 07:23.26 | maakud | llm: please not flooding. using #flood. |
| 07:23.33 | manu | I insy\talled debian with gnome and now i dont have audio i gte the error /dev/dsp not founf |
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| 07:23.34 | cheal | mwilson: I see |
| 07:23.36 | manu | *found |
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| 07:24.01 | smhar | cheal, apt-get install vlc puts 0.8.2, I think it is the latest stable vlc |
| 07:24.20 | maakud | manu: see if /proc/asound exists. if so you have alsa drivers. |
| 07:24.43 | cheal | smhar: is this what you see like in "About vlc", or the actual package version? |
| 07:24.56 | saloxin | llm: yup. stop apache properly, start it again |
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| 07:25.04 | kapil | smhar: no stable version of vlc is 0.8.1 |
| 07:25.13 | black_13 | deb |
| 07:25.18 | black_13 | !deb |
| 07:25.18 | dpkg | deb is probably the extension for debian precompiled packages |
| 07:25.38 | smhar | cheal, when I run vlc -version it says 0.8.2 but the about gives version 1 |
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| 07:25.48 | kneet | mwilson, what am I going to have for lunch now? |
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| 07:26.19 | llm | saloxin, it isent working when i try to open an .php file it wants to download it |
| 07:26.22 | mwilson | kneet: Dunno... I also ate all the tuna salad. |
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| 07:26.28 | smhar | kapil, I want that.. 0.8.2 doest work well with my dreambox tv reciever web interface |
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| 07:26.57 | cheal | smhar: what's the package version? |
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| 07:27.12 | Coke | llm: you should have a php4.load in that dir also. |
| 07:27.14 | manu | maakud: I had recompiled kernel with alsa yesterday |
| 07:27.23 | manu | maakud: but still i hva ethis error |
| 07:27.26 | rx-182 | it may sounds weird but i never understood why the debian team keep working on "not yet rls'ed but already out of date" package. why gnome 2.10 in unstable&testing? is it really worth people time to track bugs in a old version of a package? since its unstable...they should try to keep it up-to-date...at least for major components like xorg, gnome, kde... |
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| 07:27.29 | llm | Coke yea |
| 07:27.30 | llm | ? |
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| 07:27.35 | llm | i have |
| 07:27.35 | saloxin | llm: installing new module in apache can be tricky. stop apache, and verify that it's down with ps axu, star t it again |
| 07:27.36 | manu | maakud: an i have /proc/asound |
| 07:27.39 | smhar | cheal, the installed one? how to know that? I did vlc -version at it said 0.8.2 |
| 07:27.44 | ColonelKernel | !kp |
| 07:27.44 | dpkg | it has been said that kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 07:28.14 | manu | maakud: I cot even open voluem control in gmome |
| 07:28.16 | manu | *gnome |
| 07:28.20 | cheal | smhar: $ dpkg -l vlc |
| 07:28.23 | maakud | manu: please ensure that alsa-oss emulation modules are loaded in order to use /dev/dsp. |
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| 07:28.30 | Coke | llm: so it's all set. have fun with php4. |
| 07:28.55 | manu | maakud: How to do that |
| 07:28.56 | maakud | manu: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 07:28.57 | smhar | cheal, ok.. 0.8.1.svn20050 |
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| 07:29.14 | manu | maakud: I did that i did alsaconf after that |
| 07:29.15 | maakud | manu: check sound with alsamixer and aplay. |
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| 07:29.20 | manu | maakud: but still |
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| 07:29.30 | maakud | manu: apt-get install alsa-oss |
| 07:29.32 | smhar | cheal, and it also says: Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
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| 07:29.42 | cheal | smhar: that doesn't matter |
| 07:30.03 | cheal | smhar: so you have a SVN version between 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 |
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| 07:30.31 | smhar | cheal, it seems so |
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| 07:30.42 | cheal | smhar: perhaps you'd find a pure 0.8.1 on shapshot.d.net |
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| 07:32.42 | smhar | cheal, shapshot.d.net? not working |
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| 07:32.52 | cheal | !tell smhar about snapshots |
| 07:33.00 | SimonRaven | uh, snapshot... |
| 07:33.08 | SimonRaven | shapshot doesn't exist |
| 07:34.03 | Gary_63 | ok |
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| 07:34.32 | manu | maakud: Yes its working with aplay but still the error /dev/dsp not found |
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| 07:34.49 | Gary_63 | that's snapshot :0) |
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| 07:36.53 | manu | maakud: Yes its working with aplay but still the error /dev/dsp not found |
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| 07:40.33 | cahoot | manu: see if that's corrected if you 'modprobe snd-pcm-oss' |
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| 07:42.28 | tengulre | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:42.42 | Fleck | tengulre what? |
| 07:43.13 | Fleck | apt-get source ... |
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| 07:44.06 | sep | tengulre, list of games at http://games.linux.sk/ if that's what you were looking for |
| 07:44.14 | manu | modprobe snd-pcm-oss shows nothing |
| 07:44.44 | cahoot | manu: well is /dev/dsp accessible now? |
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| 07:45.44 | manu | Yes a reboot fixed it after i installed alsa-oss |
| 07:45.55 | manu | maakud: Thanks :) |
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| 07:46.08 | Fleck | manu you don't have to reboot ... |
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| 07:46.24 | Fleck | linux is not about reboots... :) |
| 07:47.01 | manu | Anyway it was fixed.. I think i just had to relogin |
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| 07:48.45 | fireba11 | Fleck: you know what i really hate ? windowsupdate popping up "please reboot" every 15 minutes ^^ |
| 07:48.57 | Fleck | hehe |
| 07:49.00 | Fleck | yep |
| 07:49.26 | Fleck | i once needed to reboot 2 times to change Hz of my monitor... |
| 07:49.34 | Fleck | well that i hate soo much ... |
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| 07:50.40 | fireba11 | Fleck: every did an install of a original XP lately ? takes 4 reboots and about 5 hours even with 1 MBit internet do download and install all updates on a 3 GHz PC |
| 07:50.55 | Fleck | :))))) |
| 07:51.33 | Fleck | fireba11 that's one of the reasons i hate Windows... |
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| 07:52.13 | fireba11 | Fleck: at least latest updater says they changed so the updates can be smaller .. am wondering if that makes a noticeable difference ... |
| 07:52.26 | Fleck | ;p |
| 07:52.35 | fireba11 | Fleck: its just hilarious to download 400 MB of updates for a 350 MB installation |
| 07:52.47 | Fleck | lol |
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| 07:53.33 | mwilson | But yet you'll download as much or more to update unstable and crow about how wonderful it is. |
| 07:53.38 | mwilson | <sigh> |
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| 07:54.08 | Bhaal | Whats the url for the older packages? |
| 07:54.35 | Phatey | !sdo |
| 07:54.40 | Phatey | :( Oh well. |
| 07:54.41 | jm_ | !sdn |
| 07:54.42 | dpkg | well, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem. |
| 07:54.47 | Phatey | Aaah. Sorry. |
| 07:54.54 | Bhaal | thans |
| 07:54.58 | Bhaal | thanks rather |
| 07:56.08 | mixmatch | yeah, and whats up with sata not working without floppies? |
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| 07:58.47 | maynanian | hi .. i need the debian mirrors for the testing destribution >> /etc/apt/sources.list , i tried with apt-setup, and it gave me the "stable" dist. , does anyone knows the mirrors? thanks =) |
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| 07:59.38 | sep | maynanian, replace stable with etch in the sources.list |
| 07:59.39 | fbi | maynanian: edit sources.list, change stable to testing, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 08:01.49 | maynanian | i installed from cd's :\ so i don't have the exact mirrors.. :| |
| 08:02.19 | fbi | maynanian: you just said you ran apt-setup. |
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| 08:03.04 | maynanian | i did, and it wrote "stable" at the update process, so i Ctrl+X the program :\ |
| 08:03.27 | maynanian | *Ctrl+c |
| 08:03.45 | Morti | Do it anyway then change it to etch later. |
| 08:03.50 | Morti | Y'arr. |
| 08:03.53 | maynanian | okay thanks =) |
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| 08:17.12 | dna | what programs would let me manipulate waveforms like sine, tri, pwn. |
| 08:17.22 | dna | These waveforms produce sound by the way |
| 08:17.38 | SimonRaven | no, really? |
| 08:17.51 | SimonRaven | </sarcasm> |
| 08:17.59 | nvz | reallly, SimonRaven ;) |
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| 08:18.22 | john | my friend installed jack, and then deleted, and now sounds in his 'games' dont work. (dont ask me) any idea why or how? (that's all the info I got) |
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| 08:18.49 | Mortalman | How do I start a program automaticly when running X ? |
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| 08:19.07 | SimonRaven | Mortalman: /msg dpkg xsession |
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| 08:19.39 | streuner | SimonRaven: http://dc5video.debian.net/dvd/box-cover.pdf |
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| 08:20.32 | SimonRaven | dna: a num,ber of apps generate and can save files, in various formats in debian. /msg dpkg tell me about search |
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| 08:23.12 | SimonRaven | streuner: *shrug*. i don't do conferences |
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| 08:24.20 | streuner | SimonRaven: haha |
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| 08:24.25 | streuner | SimonRaven: http://dc5video.debian.net/mpeg/debcamp/1st-days-hi.avi |
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| 08:25.10 | SimonRaven | don't mean to insult you, if i do, but i'm not interested in seeing this video |
| 08:25.26 | streuner | *shrug* |
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| 08:27.39 | otje | When making a system backup, can I ignore backing up the /var and /dev directories? I don't mind losing logfiles. |
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| 08:28.03 | jm_ | I wouldn't ignore all of /var if I were you |
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| 08:28.39 | squack | what is that video of? |
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| 08:28.51 | SimonRaven | indeed. i'd keep stuff like /var/lib, spool/, and some other stuff |
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| 08:29.11 | jm_ | I wouldn't keep spool with squid installed ;) |
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| 08:30.25 | sanxiyn | By definition, losing files under /var/cache may be okay. |
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| 08:30.50 | sanxiyn | You definitely want to have /var/lib/dpkg! |
| 08:31.02 | oskie | what's the maximum size of a datagram in a local SOCK_DGRAM socket? |
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| 08:32.04 | otje | okay, but I can ignore /var/log |
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| 08:32.49 | SimonRaven | jm_: no, but some mail apps and other stuff do keep things there. depends on the site, and the host |
| 08:32.57 | jm_ | SimonRaven: sure |
| 08:33.00 | maakud | otje: history of installation (/var/log/base-*log) will be lost. |
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| 08:33.52 | SimonRaven | if the box has been around longer than a month it'll be gone anyway |
| 08:33.53 | maakud | otje: approach problem from other side. find all large directories. then decide if usefule. |
| 08:34.37 | otje | maakud: I don't see and /var/log/base-*log, but your suggestion sounds good. I just had some warnings like "tar: /var/log/syslog: file changed as we read it " and "tar: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: socket ignored" |
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| 08:35.19 | SimonRaven | uh, /var/run is useless except to running long-running processes anyway |
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| 08:35.26 | riv3t | hi |
| 08:35.34 | riv3t | what can I use to download mp3s? |
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| 08:35.55 | riv3t | I done atp-get install gift but it can't connect to server. |
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| 08:36.01 | SimonRaven | wget |
| 08:36.11 | riv3t | wget? |
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| 08:36.18 | dna | man wget |
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| 08:36.27 | riv3t | but then I need websites n shit.. I just want a client |
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| 08:36.33 | riv3t | like kazaa |
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| 08:36.47 | maakud | otje: to avoid race conditions must have snapshot possiblity like device-mapper, LVM, EVMS. |
| 08:37.21 | sep | riv3t, wget is a client, a web client, you want a p2p client, and you should probably also specify for what p2p network you want a client. |
| 08:37.43 | maakud | otje: simplest to ignore such (minor) race errors. |
| 08:38.05 | otje | maakud: okay, will do, thank you |
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| 08:38.24 | riv3t | sep, I said I want some program to download mp3s and movies ect.. something like kazaa or winmx. easy to use and works. |
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| 08:38.42 | pngwn | riv3t, tried #riaa ? |
| 08:38.47 | sep | riv3t, and gift is just a frontend layer for various p2p networks, you also need to install the libgnutella-gift or libopenft-gift. |
| 08:38.52 | riv3t | join that channel? |
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| 08:38.58 | SimonRaven | @shoot kazaa |
| 08:39.07 | riv3t | pfft |
| 08:39.09 | riv3t | kazaa rocks |
| 08:39.17 | maakud | riv3t: to download client must know server protocol. all protocols different. |
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| 08:39.30 | SimonRaven | yeh, whatever. causes more problems than it solves.... |
| 08:39.35 | riv3t | isn't there something to does it all? |
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| 08:39.38 | sep | kazaa isnt that the windows spyware program with some filesharing subfeatures ? |
| 08:39.51 | SimonRaven | yup |
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| 08:39.59 | riv3t | kazaa lite isn't |
| 08:40.08 | riv3t | ohh, what about dc++ |
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| 08:40.21 | maakud | riv3t: and when microsoft steps in all protocols get subtly re-arranged. :) |
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| 08:42.05 | riv3t | Isn't there some easy program I can use? I just want to download freaking mp3s |
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| 08:42.48 | riv3t | something that comes with a list of the server |
| 08:42.52 | maakud | riv3t: curl, wget, bittornado, sftp. |
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| 08:43.05 | yang | I was googling for raq3 support for linux but couldnt find anything usefull, someone knows if there is a port for debian? |
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| 08:44.17 | maakud | riv3t: mutella, gift, dctc, mldonkey. the list is quite long. |
| 08:44.31 | nvz | riv3t: gift works best, supports connection through multiple network plugins |
| 08:44.33 | riv3t | what is the easyest to use? |
| 08:44.47 | nvz | riv3t: it requires some simple configuration of plugins |
| 08:44.51 | riv3t | I have gift, but it's text mode, how do I get the gui? |
| 08:45.00 | pngwn | w0w |
| 08:45.01 | riv3t | and I don't know how to make it connect... |
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| 08:45.15 | Gnea | riv3t: google knows it |
| 08:45.19 | nvz | riv3t: gift is not GUI or text mode, its a server. you can use whatever client frontend you want |
| 08:45.36 | riv3t | english please |
| 08:45.42 | riv3t | I don't know wtf you are on about |
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| 08:45.59 | Gnea | riv3t: you don't know how to use google.com? |
| 08:46.04 | pngwn | riv3t, go away |
| 08:46.06 | Gnea | it's so easy |
| 08:46.06 | maakud | riv3t: please being polite when asking for help. |
| 08:46.18 | Gnea | you type in the terms you are searching for |
| 08:46.22 | Gnea | "gift gui" |
| 08:46.22 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: if you don't understand what nvz said, you're too fucking stupid to use gift |
| 08:46.24 | Gnea | how difficult is that? |
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| 08:46.33 | nvz | riv3t: first you have to install giftd and some plugins. only fully functional ones in debian are libopenft-gift and libgnutella-gift, though you can get libfasttrack-gift from an unofficial source to access the kazaa network |
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| 08:46.40 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: what he told you is 100% correct. |
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| 08:47.15 | riv3t | I done apt-get install gift |
| 08:47.22 | riv3t | and it got everyhting, now what? |
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| 08:47.30 | nvz | riv3t: after that, you have to run gift-setup to configure the giftd and the plugins you want to use. |
| 08:47.32 | jm_ | now it's time to RTFM |
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| 08:47.45 | riv3t | okay |
| 08:47.48 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.50 | buu_ | Anyone happen to know how I might unfreeze a screen session? |
| 08:47.53 | Gnea | terrific resource |
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| 08:48.01 | Gnea | buu_: ^q |
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| 08:48.08 | buu_ | Gnea: I'm hitting it, nothing is happening |
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| 08:48.10 | nvz | riv3t: that is only going to connect you to OpenFT for searching file torrents, I run all 3 of the working plugins OpenFT, Gnutella, and FastTrack for maximum search capabilities |
| 08:48.13 | anibal | yang, http://www.cyrius.com/debian/cobalt/ |
| 08:48.33 | Gnea | buu_: ^a q |
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| 08:48.34 | Gnea | ? |
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| 08:48.40 | buu_ | Gnea: No change. |
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| 08:48.52 | buu_ | Gnea: Just sits there with a blinking cursor |
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| 08:49.15 | Gnea | buu_: try snatching it up with a screen -A -R -DD in a new login |
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| 08:49.19 | anibal | yang, http://www.debian.org/ports/mips/ |
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| 08:49.51 | buu_ | Gnea: I tried that, it's just hanging |
| 08:49.57 | buu_ | Doesn't return or do anything. |
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| 08:50.18 | yang | !beer anibal |
| 08:50.25 | Gnea | buu_: then you probably need to kill -9 the pid of the shell that you are logged in on that ran the screen process |
| 08:50.30 | buu_ | Gnea: Sigh |
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| 08:50.38 | Gnea | buu_: i know |
| 08:50.38 | convidado | as I connect palm in linux |
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| 08:50.59 | anibal | yang, np |
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| 08:51.19 | Gnea | heh |
| 08:51.20 | twentyone | Be back soon! heheheh |
| 08:51.24 | convidado | as I connect palm in linux |
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| 08:51.49 | manu | any howtos on ati igp 340M on debian |
| 08:52.13 | manu | My computer locks up when i run glxgears |
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| 08:52.27 | Gnea | man |
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| 08:52.32 | Gnea | ati makes the worst video cards ever |
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| 08:52.47 | buu_ | Hatred. |
| 08:52.54 | Gnea | buu :) |
| 08:52.58 | buu | Hmph |
| 08:53.00 | manu | Yes.. i didnt know that when i bought my laptop |
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| 08:53.30 | convidado | necessary to install something in kernel |
| 08:53.31 | Gnea | that's what you get for not doing your homework. tut tut. |
| 08:53.32 | fireba11 | Gnea: ? why do you think that ? |
| 08:53.37 | monster | manu: You got problem . Friend of mine changed to nvidia after few months :( |
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| 08:53.41 | Gnea | manu: however, all is not lost |
| 08:53.51 | SimonRaven | nvidia is also crap. your point? |
| 08:53.54 | Gnea | manu: what drive are you using? |
| 08:54.02 | Gnea | SimonRaven: don't even start. |
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| 08:54.07 | Gnea | fireba11: experience. |
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| 08:54.15 | manu | Gnea: I dont get you, drive? |
| 08:54.19 | SimonRaven | i'm not starting, i'm finishing |
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| 08:54.29 | Gnea | manu: sorry, i meant driver |
| 08:54.29 | manu | Gnea: IGP 340 M |
| 08:54.35 | fireba11 | Gnea: i got an ati card and got no complaints |
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| 08:54.43 | manu | xorr |
| 08:54.45 | manu | xorg |
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| 08:54.53 | Gnea | fireba11: are you aware of the vast array of ati card types? |
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| 08:55.20 | Gnea | manu: that's the xserver - i'm talking about the driver itself that allows the xserver to talk to the video card |
| 08:55.22 | fireba11 | Gnea: yes .. don't know linux driver situation though .. THAT PC still runs windows for a couple reasons ... |
| 08:55.45 | Gnea | fireba11: i'm sorry, this is a windows channel? :P |
| 08:56.03 | t3chn0b0y | its windows i thought it was linux |
| 08:56.04 | t3chn0b0y | cya |
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| 08:56.10 | fireba11 | Gnea: nope .. just didn't know if you were complaining about the hardware or the drivers ^^ |
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| 08:56.14 | manu | Gnea: How do i find out |
| 08:56.21 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 08:56.26 | herfo | anyone had luck using alex motzkau's dmcryptfs (http://www.motzkau.net/alex/crypto.html) ? |
| 08:56.26 | SimonRaven | Gnea: everyone has an opinion. i'm sorry you thought i was starting something, but i happen to think they both suck for various reasons |
| 08:56.45 | Gnea | fireba11: the drivers, actually :) |
| 08:56.47 | manu | Gnea: MESA DRI Radeon |
| 08:56.55 | riv3t | okay, I am upto "host of gift daemon" it's on 127.0.0.1 |
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| 08:57.04 | riv3t | should I leave that? my ip is 192.168.0.2 |
| 08:57.09 | monster | manu: did you look at http://forums.debian.net ? |
| 08:57.13 | Gnea | SimonRaven: well, i happen to agree, i just consider nvidia to be the lesser of 2 evils |
| 08:57.15 | herfo | i'm having wicked problems combining software raid, lvm2, and dm* |
| 08:57.16 | riv3t | I am behind a gateway. |
| 08:57.23 | herfo | hehe riv3t, you're back |
| 08:57.30 | manu | Gnea: I got this from glxinfo 1.2 MESA 6.2.1 |
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| 08:57.32 | riv3t | I'm getting there :p |
| 08:57.33 | monster | I am behind the door :) |
| 08:57.39 | herfo | how's your ipmasq going? |
| 08:57.43 | manu | Gnea: Ok i will check it |
| 08:57.46 | riv3t | great |
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| 08:57.52 | riv3t | Thanks heaps for helping me mate. |
| 08:57.55 | Gnea | manu: the driver would be listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 08:58.07 | riv3t | I stayed up all night till 8am downloading everything |
| 08:58.29 | nvz | riv3t: yes 127.0.0.1 is your local loopback interface, will allow only your computer to connect to the gift daemon |
| 08:58.34 | Gnea | manu: under Section "Device" ...... Driver "<soemthinghere>" |
| 08:58.35 | herfo | if only someone could help me now :-) i put in a good 3 hours here and with you yesterday clocking up good kharma :-) |
| 08:58.48 | Gnea | manu: and no, i can't type very well tonite |
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| 08:59.09 | Gnea | herfo: pfft, only 3 hours? ;) |
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| 08:59.17 | fireba11 | Gnea: ah, okay then .. never tried to install ATI drivers on my debian so far .. |
| 08:59.21 | pc09 | hi |
| 08:59.22 | manu | Gnea: Oh its radeon |
| 08:59.31 | manu | Gnea: i changed it to radeon from vesa |
| 08:59.37 | herfo | riv3t: i don't think i will get any help though, i've not been able to get anyone that I know that works with me or been using linux for a while to get it going. only suggestion i got is: use ubuntu, but i doubt it's a sarge problem |
| 08:59.48 | Gnea | manu: and you installed the radeon driver? |
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| 08:59.55 | herfo | gnea: heh :-) |
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| 08:59.58 | manu | Gnea: no :) |
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| 09:00.13 | Gnea | herfo: kinda hard to help when dont' know wtf the problem is |
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| 09:00.18 | Gnea | !tell herfo about ask |
| 09:00.21 | pc09 | do u know how to install yahoo messenger for linux? |
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| 09:00.28 | fireba11 | pc09: *ikes* |
| 09:00.29 | manu | Gnea: Should i recompile kernel |
| 09:00.31 | manu | ? |
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| 09:00.44 | herfo | gnea: hehe dpkg giving me a lecture dang :-) |
| 09:00.47 | Gnea | manu: i don't know |
| 09:00.47 | pc09 | what? |
| 09:00.51 | pc09 | just log in |
| 09:00.55 | KernelPanique | pc09: dload the ,deb file on the site then dpkg -i |
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| 09:01.17 | pc09 | who knows how to install ym with cam for linux? |
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| 09:01.38 | pc09 | i downloaded the file |
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| 09:01.46 | pc09 | but i can't extract it |
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| 09:01.55 | KernelPanique | pc09: what does it say? |
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| 09:02.30 | monster | pc09: what's the file maybe is win32 version :) |
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| 09:02.43 | pc09 | we don't know the command for installation of ym after the dpkg -i |
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| 09:03.00 | herfo | I'm trying to get dmcryptfs (http://www.motzkau.net/alex/crypto.html) going on debian sarge (amd64 but irrelevant, i recompiled). Problem is related to a combination of software-raid (md), mdadm, lvm and device mappers. /dev/md0 does not come online after a reboot automagically, forcing me to recreate each time |
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| 09:03.13 | KernelPanique | pc09: did you dpkg -i it or not? |
| 09:03.22 | pc09 | we already did |
| 09:03.39 | mark- | does anyone know whether KDE is in a proper shape in sid right now? |
| 09:03.48 | KernelPanique | if it dokged it with no errors just type in the console as ur normal user ymessenger |
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| 09:04.01 | mark- | it wants to remove kdelibs4, so I don't dare upgrade... |
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| 09:04.10 | babyrobbe | huhu :) |
| 09:04.18 | herfo | mdadm -Q /dev/md0 says invalid, but querying individual /dev/sd[a-d] disks returns all disks are active. therefore i cannot get cryptfs init to detect md0 successfully, mng it with mdadm or partition it with lvm or anything |
| 09:04.18 | pc09 | where will we do it? |
| 09:04.29 | KernelPanique | pc09: in the console |
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| 09:04.55 | pc09 | we can't find the console in the applications now |
| 09:05.02 | pc09 | where can we find it? |
| 09:05.19 | KernelPanique | pc09: where did you dpkg -i the .deb file |
| 09:05.20 | monster | pc09: Kmenu->Debian->Xshells |
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| 09:06.41 | pc09 | kernel will u chat with me directly? |
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| 09:06.58 | pc09 | for me to learn more |
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| 09:07.05 | KernelPanique | pc09: prv me |
| 09:07.10 | pc09 | i'll appreciate ur help |
| 09:07.13 | Garp | Hi |
| 09:07.15 | pc09 | how? |
| 09:07.25 | pngwn | heh |
| 09:07.28 | KernelPanique | oh boy. |
| 09:07.33 | fbi | pc09: /m nickserv help |
| 09:07.42 | fbi | you need to register |
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| 09:08.08 | pc09 | hs] |
| 09:08.25 | fbi | oooooooo.k |
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| 09:08.45 | KernelPanique | pc09: i messaged you in prv, you can ask me there whatever you need to know |
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| 09:09.01 | riv3t | I ran gift-set up but I still get that error "connect connect to the daemon at 127.0.0.1:1213, is giFT running? |
| 09:09.07 | Garp | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.13 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: well, is it running? |
| 09:09.15 | Garp | (oups) |
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| 09:09.17 | SimonRaven | so run the daemon... |
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| 09:09.36 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: work on your reading comprehension. |
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| 09:09.44 | pc09 | it timed out |
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| 09:09.55 | fbi | riv3t: do you ewad documentation? or just blindly install apps and pray that they work on their own |
| 09:09.59 | KernelPanique | pc09: what did? |
| 09:10.02 | pc09 | send me msg again |
| 09:10.03 | pc09 | pls |
| 09:10.04 | fbi | s/ewad/read/ |
| 09:10.23 | fbi | pc09: i just told you, if you aren't registered with nickserv you can't msg users |
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| 09:10.36 | riv3t | so what do I do? |
| 09:10.41 | fbi | unless the user turns that off |
| 09:10.41 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 09:10.43 | manu | Gnea: Can you please go through this link shoud thuis be done http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-1740.html |
| 09:10.43 | riv3t | how do I run the daemon? |
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| 09:10.55 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: you read the fucking documentation. |
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| 09:11.10 | riv3t | I don't like reading |
| 09:11.12 | riv3t | :p |
| 09:11.15 | SimonRaven | toguh shit |
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| 09:11.18 | Guerrrrin | then we don't like helping |
| 09:11.19 | SimonRaven | tough even |
| 09:11.19 | riv3t | lol |
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| 09:11.36 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 09:11.38 | Guerrrrin | riv3t: i'll now repeat what I said 25 minutes ago: you're too stupid to use gift. |
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| 09:11.49 | SimonRaven | riv3t!*@* added to ignore list. |
| 09:11.55 | Garp | Question: I'm looking for a very simple console email client that would be able to send email w/o configuration. A command line option for the smtp server to use, and that's all. And also able to send attachements some way or some other. Any suggestion? Thanks. |
| 09:12.01 | riv3t | fuck you too then |
| 09:12.09 | pc09 | kernel read mymsg? |
| 09:12.18 | senaque | garp: mail, mutt or pine |
| 09:12.18 | Guerrrrin | SimonRaven: this is the chap from yesterday whose "friend" found a "remote buffer exploit" in "X" |
| 09:12.20 | fbi | Garp: mutt ? |
| 09:12.28 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 09:12.40 | KernelPanique | pc09: if you are not registered you cannot send prv messages, ./msg nickserv for help and register |
| 09:12.43 | SimonRaven | mutt, nail, mailx, etc. |
| 09:12.43 | Garp | senaque: mail is able to run w/o local config ? |
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| 09:13.08 | Garp | OK, if you say so? i'll read a bit more |
| 09:13.15 | Update | IS DEBIAN COMMING OUT OF THE DARL AGES ? |
| 09:13.17 | SimonRaven | using bitchx no less. ... |
| 09:13.23 | Update | sry for caps |
| 09:13.24 | Garp | I had the impression that it had to had sendmail installed to work. |
| 09:13.35 | Guerrrrin | Update: debian was never in the dark ages. They ended centuries ago. get with the progra. |
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| 09:13.37 | senaque | Update: it has now entered the DARLING ages |
| 09:13.38 | Garp | Update: whatis a 'darl' ? |
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| 09:13.44 | Guerrrrin | oh |
| 09:13.46 | Guerrrrin | the darl ages |
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| 09:13.51 | Guerrrrin | post-SCO, I see. |
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| 09:13.58 | senaque | lol Guerrrrin |
| 09:14.00 | SimonRaven | Update: i don't know what you mean, but you might ask that of the u.s. and other western gov'ts, too |
| 09:14.27 | Update | bullshit channels |
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| 09:14.36 | SimonRaven | bullshit questions |
| 09:14.41 | senaque | bullshit users |
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| 09:14.57 | pc09 | MSG KernelPanique hi |
| 09:15.07 | fireba11 | senaque: LART ? |
| 09:15.13 | KernelPanique | pc09: hmpf |
| 09:15.15 | senaque | google is your friend |
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| 09:15.24 | senaque | actually, dpkg mite know |
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| 09:15.29 | fbi | PC09: YOU CANNOT MSG ANOTHER USER WITHOUT REGISTERING YOUR NICK. |
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| 09:15.32 | SimonRaven | @dict lart |
| 09:15.33 | pc09 | i can't get it |
| 09:15.35 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'lart' (1 of 2): {Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool}. |
| 09:15.36 | senaque | !tell senaque about lart |
| 09:15.39 | fbi | you still have not identified. |
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| 09:16.02 | vorsprung | yawn |
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| 09:17.10 | baby_pink | ctc |
| 09:17.17 | baby_pink | hi |
| 09:17.18 | Garp | I'm sorry to come back on this, I read 'mail' man, and I couldnt see how I can tell it simply which smtp server to use and send a mail, from the CLI. Could anyone help? Thanks. |
| 09:17.33 | SimonRaven | it'll use the local mta by default... |
| 09:17.54 | Garp | SimonRaven: If it's not configured ? I would like a very simple stand alone stuff |
| 09:18.00 | SimonRaven | it'll use the local mta by default... |
| 09:18.05 | Garp | SimonRaven: not much more than "telnet 25" |
| 09:18.06 | bob2 | Garp: it doesn't use SMTP |
| 09:18.06 | dajomu | hello.. I am trying to install apache on my debian sarge. Should debian install the /var/www/htdocs and /var/www/cgi-bin automagically? |
| 09:18.13 | baby_pink | cyc |
| 09:18.20 | pipatron | /kick fbi caps' |
| 09:18.27 | bob2 | Garp: it calls /usr/sbin/sendmail, which is part of your local MTA; your MTA then handles sending it out |
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| 09:18.46 | Garp | bob2: so, I'm looking for a "standalone" tool... |
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| 09:18.53 | bob2 | Garp: no |
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| 09:19.01 | bob2 | Garp: you're looking to configure your local MTA correctly |
| 09:19.02 | Garp | bob2: I got answer that 'mail' was able to do this... |
| 09:19.10 | Garp | bob2: No, I dont want that. |
| 09:19.18 | vorsprung | /var/www/cgi-bin ? no the cgi goes in /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 09:19.18 | bob2 | Garp: why? |
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| 09:19.27 | Garp | bob2: I would like a very simple one liner command. |
| 09:19.35 | baby_pink | hi |
| 09:19.44 | dajomu | vorsprung: and the htdocs? |
| 09:19.49 | SimonRaven | configure your mta already |
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| 09:19.55 | Garp | bob2: If you dont know any tool, that's fine. |
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| 09:20.06 | Garp | SimonRaven: so you dont have answer to my question ? |
| 09:20.07 | herfo | Garp: there is a difference between the mailer application MUA and MTA |
| 09:20.09 | bob2 | Garp: you appear to be confused |
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| 09:20.25 | bob2 | Garp: configuring your MTA correctly means "echo test mail | mail -ssubject foo@bar.com" works |
| 09:20.30 | vorsprung | Garp, you want to send email to an arbitary smtp server that is specified in the command |
| 09:20.58 | Garp | herfo: I canb just "letnel smtp.fai.tld 25" and send the email prety easily , but I'm looking for a tool to do that. |
| 09:21.04 | Garp | vorsprung: yes. |
| 09:21.15 | Garp | vorsprung: without local MTA being configured |
| 09:21.17 | dajomu | <vorsprung> : the slackserver I have got a cgi-bin and htdocs in /var/www/ |
| 09:21.19 | herfo | Garp: so do that then :-) |
| 09:21.23 | baby_pink | hi ctc |
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| 09:21.37 | vorsprung | dajomu, right, debian is different |
| 09:21.53 | Garp | OK, if you have no answer that's fine... :( to the worse I'll write a small script for that. |
| 09:22.07 | vorsprung | Garp, hang on to your hat. |
| 09:22.12 | dajomu | vorsprung - do I have to create htdocs manually or? |
| 09:22.18 | Garp | vorsprung : ? |
| 09:22.22 | baby_pink | hi adrian |
| 09:22.29 | baby_pink | ctc? |
| 09:22.32 | vorsprung | Garp, when I've done this in the past I've used a perl module Net::SMTP |
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| 09:22.49 | pc09 | waaaaaaaa |
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| 09:22.52 | vorsprung | Garp, I really think that mutt could do it though, RTFM for mutt |
| 09:22.55 | Garp | vorsprung: I'll use python. |
| 09:22.56 | pc09 | i can'tget it |
| 09:23.27 | Garp | vorsprung: there's also some smtp stuff, and it's likley a few tens of line to wrap this and make it usable |
| 09:23.34 | vorsprung | dajomu, you will not have to make /var/www/ manually. If you visit the newly installed webserver it displays a test/demo page installed in /var/www |
| 09:23.48 | reddi | hi, i have got troubles in configuring tvout! i have modified my XF86config4 with the following lines: option "twinview" and option "tvstandard" "pal" - why does it not work and what do i have forgotten? |
| 09:23.51 | Garp | vorsprung: OK? I'll look for more info about mutt, then. I look. |
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| 09:24.01 | vorsprung | Garp, sounds like a plan :) |
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| 09:25.12 | Garp | Reason: someone wants help on debian, I really dont know much of the state of his machine, I would like a coipy of some of his config files. Easiest for me is to ask him to send them. I dont feel I can explaijn him how to configure an MTA for that now. |
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| 09:25.31 | bob2 | sudo aptitude install ssmtp, enter relay, done |
| 09:25.33 | dajomu | vorsprung - so why does slack have the /var/www/htdocs? |
| 09:25.51 | vorsprung | Garp, use a paste service like www.pastebin.com |
| 09:26.11 | vorsprung | dajomu, no idea. I stopped using slack about 10 years ago |
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| 09:26.57 | Garp | vorsprung: hummm... |
| 09:27.06 | herfo | dajomu: i think they used /var/lib/apache 10 years ago iirc |
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| 09:28.10 | herfo | dajomu: different distro's think different standards are better. its a mute point and irrelevant discussion for this channel. however i can tell you that debian's excellent standards have largely been adopted by the LSB and other distro's are mainly coming in line with debian |
| 09:28.34 | nvz | perhaps you mean moot |
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| 09:29.05 | ToMMY2k | hello...I just did a 2.6 kernel upgrade in debian. It now seems as if I dont have internet access, but if config shows my NIC and I can ping my own IP address. Im no where near a linux expert so any help fixing the problem would be appreciated. I have added support for my NIC into the kernel as both a module and compiled in. Any ideas anyone? |
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| 09:29.06 | Garp | vorsprung: that's an idea. He'll just copy there his public ssh key so that I can open him an ssh account and h'ell scp thefiles... |
| 09:29.19 | vorsprung | herfo, yes it might well have been /var/lib something. To be honest I really don't care :) |
| 09:29.33 | Garp | vorsprung: looks good enough. |
| 09:29.50 | herfo | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.00 | vorsprung | herfo, HURRAH :D |
| 09:30.02 | nvz | ToMMY2k: you've compiled multiple kernels? |
| 09:30.21 | herfo | vorsprung: i think it was dajomu that you were referring to, asking the why, not I :-) |
| 09:30.22 | ToMMY2k | I have tried to fix the problem several times using different kernel options yes. |
| 09:30.38 | ToMMY2k | Im up to my 4th kernel |
| 09:30.43 | nvz | ToMMY2k: whats the problem? |
| 09:30.54 | ToMMY2k | well I cant ping or access the machine next to me |
| 09:31.12 | nvz | ToMMY2k: you can get an IP and ping the default gateway? |
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| 09:31.18 | ToMMY2k | one sec |
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| 09:31.39 | ToMMY2k | I can get an ip, but I cant ping the DG. |
| 09:31.41 | Garp | Thanks everybody :) |
| 09:31.43 | Garp | bebeye. |
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| 09:31.55 | ToMMY2k | I cant ping my IP also. |
| 09:31.56 | ToMMY2k | I mean |
| 09:31.58 | ToMMY2k | I can sorry |
| 09:32.06 | nvz | ToMMY2k: do you use DHCP? |
| 09:32.08 | ToMMY2k | no |
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| 09:32.25 | ToMMY2k | the machine next to me cant ping this machine either |
| 09:32.30 | nvz | ToMMY2k: then having an IP and pinging it has no relevance what so ever |
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| 09:32.46 | ToMMY2k | ok, just wanted you to know what I had done so far :) |
| 09:33.22 | maakud | TomMY2k: are the lights blinking on the ethernet port? |
| 09:33.35 | ToMMY2k | they are constantly on |
| 09:33.52 | xiao | Is there any method to make 2.6 kernel to support ISATAP? |
| 09:33.59 | nvz | ToMMY2k: paste the output of "route" into a pastebin or use paster or #flood |
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| 09:34.35 | ToMMY2k | I can paste anything, the machine has no network access :) Ill try to copy the details...one sec |
| 09:34.38 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: you are using a debian kernel? |
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| 09:34.50 | nvz | ToMMY2k: heh, good point :P |
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| 09:35.10 | ToMMY2k | localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:35.23 | ToMMY2k | default 172.30.6.8 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:35.48 | ToMMY2k | is that ok? |
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| 09:36.18 | ToMMY2k | valdyn: this is a kernel compiled using make-kpkg |
| 09:36.24 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: if that is everything then that is not ok |
| 09:36.25 | ToMMY2k | downloaded kernel source |
| 09:36.31 | ToMMY2k | ok well thats it |
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| 09:37.05 | nvz | valdyn: he is statically configured if you havent been following, havent yet asked for interfaces content |
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| 09:38.23 | ToMMY2k | you want the content of /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 09:38.32 | SimonRaven | @paster |
| 09:38.33 | ravenbird | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
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| 09:38.57 | maakud | ToMMY2k: do `apt-get install tcpdump'. and run 'tcpdump -i eth0 | head -20'. This will tell you if eth0 is seeing any traffic at all. |
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| 09:39.05 | nvz | just the parts for the eth0 should be fine, if you can separate on one line with \n or such that would be great |
| 09:39.13 | ToMMY2k | cant apt-get...no network access |
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| 09:39.25 | ToMMY2k | Ill see if I have it installed |
| 09:39.29 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: route add 172.30.6.8 eth0 |
| 09:39.31 | maakud | yes. more fool me. |
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| 09:39.38 | nvz | SimonRaven: the box is not online he cant really use paste of any kind, he's manually transfering information |
| 09:39.43 | ToMMY2k | ah :) |
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| 09:40.59 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: works now? |
| 09:41.02 | ToMMY2k | ok done |
| 09:41.04 | ToMMY2k | no |
| 09:41.06 | ToMMY2k | :( |
| 09:41.15 | ToMMY2k | SimonRaven: same here :) |
| 09:41.21 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 09:41.32 | ToMMY2k | I went from 2.4 to 2.6 today...I still of course have my old kernel |
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| 09:41.54 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: ok, remove that route again, tell us what your internet gateway is |
| 09:42.06 | ToMMY2k | my gateway is 172.30.6.8 |
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| 09:42.33 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: that is not possible, that ip is ON the internet, it cannot e a gateway TO the internet |
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| 09:43.24 | ToMMY2k | hmmm that is the ip of my router |
| 09:43.29 | ToMMY2k | default gateway? |
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| 09:43.55 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: its the INTERNET ip of your router, if its a router it has at least 2 IP, the other should be within 'localnet' |
| 09:43.57 | maakud | ToMMY2k: other than kernel 2.4 to 2.6 did you change anything? was it working with kernel 2.4? |
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| 09:45.21 | ToMMY2k | 2.4 was fine, I used the 2.4 config as a base for 2.6 and have tweaked it somewhat. If I boot with my 2.4 kernel should I run the above commands and see what the differences between my 2.6 and 2.4 are? |
| 09:45.31 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: i dont know what your 'localnet' is, 'route -n' would tell. ping -b 192.168.1.255 might get it to respond. |
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| 09:45.58 | ToMMY2k | ok |
| 09:46.23 | ToMMY2k | 172.30.6.8 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:46.39 | ToMMY2k | 172.30.6.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:46.48 | norskfjord | hallo |
| 09:46.53 | ToMMY2k | 0.0.0.0 172.30.6.8 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:46.55 | norskfjord | Do you I fix this? Error loading '/home/electron/xmms-share.pl': |
| 09:46.55 | norskfjord | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.55 | norskfjord | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:47.01 | ToMMY2k | thats it |
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| 09:47.34 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: oh, all your boxes have a 'real' internet IP? |
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| 09:47.54 | ToMMY2k | yeah each box has a real and local ip |
| 09:47.57 | SimonRaven | shouldn't use 2.4 configs on 2.6 source. they difffer too much. it won't usually puke, but it's Not A Good Idea [tm] |
| 09:48.07 | ToMMY2k | SimonRaven: understood |
| 09:48.17 | nvz | heh |
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| 09:48.23 | ToMMY2k | its mostly a stripped out kernel |
| 09:48.28 | ToMMY2k | as much as possible is removed |
| 09:48.36 | nvz | all of your boxes are routing? |
| 09:48.51 | liable | trying to make more boxes.. :P |
| 09:48.52 | ToMMY2k | nvz: I dont understand wat you mean sorry |
| 09:48.58 | nvz | likewise |
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| 09:49.48 | ToMMY2k | nvz: does my route -n look ok? |
| 09:49.56 | nvz | no clue |
| 09:50.31 | ToMMY2k | nvz: any ideas on what I should do next? |
| 09:50.46 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: whats the IP of your localhost and router? |
| 09:50.49 | bender-RW- | norskfjord: you have to install libxmms-perl (via apt-get) |
| 09:50.50 | nvz | I would recommend not talking to me anymore cause I stopped listening |
| 09:50.55 | fbi | could it be a problem with dns since he set it up static? |
| 09:51.04 | ToMMY2k | my localhost should be 172.30.6.20 my router is 172.30.6.8 |
| 09:51.09 | fbi | ToMMY2k: what is the output of cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:51.15 | ToMMY2k | one sec |
| 09:51.42 | smhar | I am running testing and I searched for kenerl images and the latest I found is 2.6.8-2, the same that I am using, does this mean I have to compile manually a new one |
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| 09:51.51 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: "ping 172.30.6.8" |
| 09:51.58 | ToMMY2k | it lists my nameservers |
| 09:52.03 | Guerrrrin | smhar: search for linux-image |
| 09:52.06 | ToMMY2k | valdyn: it wont work |
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| 09:52.23 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: does it give an error? |
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| 09:52.38 | boddgr | whats the output of ifconfig? |
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| 09:52.57 | ToMMY2k | valdyn: no error, it thinks there is no computer at that address...ie 100% lost packets |
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| 09:53.04 | ToMMY2k | ifconfig...ok one sec |
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| 09:53.13 | hyperstream | hey people just wondering how ati cards go in a 64bit amd computer running debian: [HIS RADEON X800 IceQ II TURBO 256meg GDDR3 memory - 910MHz (Turbo) HDTV and DUAL DISPLAY] |
| 09:53.19 | smhar | Guerrrrin, apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 give all 2.6 kernels and it is 2.6.8.2 and 2.6.8.11 for 64 systems |
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| 09:53.24 | pusling | any good links in building a repo self with Releasefiles and signed packages ? |
| 09:53.33 | babyrobbe | :) |
| 09:53.34 | ToMMY2k | its lists my eth0 device and a device called lo |
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| 09:53.36 | Guerrrrin | smhar: i bet it doesn't |
| 09:53.40 | ToMMY2k | so you need any specifics |
| 09:53.41 | ToMMY2k | ? |
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| 09:53.52 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: run mii-tool or ethtool on eth0 ( whichever works ) |
| 09:53.59 | ToMMY2k | k |
| 09:54.04 | Guerrrrin | smhar: and in any case, i told you to search on linux-image |
| 09:54.18 | boddgr | does eth0 have an ip ? |
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| 09:54.25 | ToMMY2k | ahhh |
| 09:54.27 | ToMMY2k | ok |
| 09:54.45 | nksen | are there still security maintaining fixes for oldstable? |
| 09:54.47 | ToMMY2k | eth0 is unlinked...eth1 is connected |
| 09:54.55 | smhar | Guerrrrin, oops I didn't read you correctly |
| 09:55.01 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: so.. there's the error |
| 09:55.08 | ToMMY2k | so what do I need to do to fix it? |
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| 09:55.18 | boddgr | try ifup eth1 |
| 09:55.18 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: plug in the cable? |
| 09:55.21 | ToMMY2k | thanks for this guys btw..much apprecited |
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| 09:55.26 | boddgr | :p |
| 09:55.30 | ToMMY2k | the cable is plugged in |
| 09:55.37 | ToMMY2k | but nowhere is eth1 configured |
| 09:55.47 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: but mii-tool is telling you that its not plugged in |
| 09:55.59 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: maybe you have eth0 and eth1 reversed |
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| 09:56.44 | boddgr | try ifup eth1 |
| 09:56.51 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: interface numbering is only dependend on the order the drivers get loaded in for you |
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| 09:57.03 | boddgr | yes also |
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| 09:57.19 | ToMMY2k | valdyn: ok that makes sence. |
| 09:57.26 | Guerrrrin | SENSE |
| 09:57.48 | ToMMY2k | ok I swapped the network cable to the other port...mii-tool reports eth0 as now being linked |
| 09:57.52 | ToMMY2k | sense :) |
| 09:57.58 | liable | hmm, 163Mb upgrade, weee.. |
| 09:57.59 | ToMMY2k | still I can ping anything |
| 09:58.05 | ToMMY2k | or connect to anything |
| 09:58.16 | ToMMY2k | ifup eth0 says eth0 is all configured |
| 09:58.21 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 09:58.23 | boddgr | what's hardware? |
| 09:58.37 | smhar | Guerrrrin, found linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7. so for installing, I just need to apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7, right? |
| 09:58.41 | ToMMY2k | dual gigabit intel something or other, uses the e1000 module |
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| 09:58.57 | Guerrrrin | smhar: 1 |
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| 09:59.07 | boddgr | the netcard is the same so... |
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| 09:59.17 | boddgr | try an lspci :) |
| 09:59.17 | smhar | Guerrrrin, I love debian :-) |
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| 09:59.34 | ToMMY2k | valdyn: one sec |
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| 10:00.13 | boddgr | and ifup eth1 does nothing? |
| 10:00.14 | hyperstream | hey people just wondering how ati cards go in a 64bit amd computer running debian: [HIS RADEON X800 IceQ II TURBO 256meg GDDR3 memory - 910MHz (Turbo) HDTV and DUAL DISPLAY] |
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| 10:00.22 | hyperstream | eek |
| 10:00.27 | ToMMY2k | it works!....thankyou so much guys :) |
| 10:00.43 | norskfjord | is there a way to ping a computer behind a route from the internet? |
| 10:00.43 | Guerrrrin | hyperstream: what do all those numbers mean, and of what relevance are they to #debian? |
| 10:00.50 | norskfjord | router |
| 10:00.58 | valdyn | hyperstream: /msg dpkg ati drivers and you might just read ati's website if amd64 is supported |
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| 10:01.01 | ToMMY2k | Ill remember what was said here for future reference :) thanks once again |
| 10:01.02 | hyperstream | ahh DOES debian support ati cards |
| 10:01.06 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: generally no |
| 10:01.08 | hyperstream | for pcie in 64bit systems |
| 10:01.11 | norskfjord | not at all? |
| 10:01.14 | hyperstream | i cant see how it didnt say that heh |
| 10:01.18 | hyperstream | thanks valdyn |
| 10:01.22 | hyperstream | :) much appriceated |
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| 10:01.34 | valdyn | hyperstream: debian itself does not. flavio made packages from atis binary driver |
| 10:01.37 | vorsprung | norskfjord, clue...david lynch |
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| 10:01.45 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: well, a router can forward input on given ports to an ip behind it. |
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| 10:01.56 | carlinhos | is there any way to fallback to a older libc6 than the one i use? thanks or link a progran to use another libc6 than the one installed on my system? thanks |
| 10:02.00 | norskfjord | say my gateway is 192.168.0.2 an the client is 192.168.0.2 |
| 10:02.01 | valdyn | hyperstream: if something is pcie or agp or pci is irrelevant for this |
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| 10:02.11 | norskfjord | so I can't ping .2 from somewhere else? |
| 10:02.16 | norskfjord | say it's running XP |
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| 10:02.23 | liable | from the network. |
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| 10:02.26 | hyperstream | valdyn, ahh i didnt understand that last comment |
| 10:02.27 | hyperstream | :/ |
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| 10:02.34 | Zugschlus | Hm. what is wrong when k3b says "Could not determine size of resulting image file"? |
| 10:02.35 | liable | s/network/lan |
| 10:02.36 | Guerrrrin | carlinhos: generally not. It's unwise to have more than one libc installed, and rolling back is extremely dangerous. |
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| 10:02.48 | carlinhos | sure |
| 10:02.52 | Zugschlus | (other than k3b not being able to determine the image size and not burning) |
| 10:02.56 | valdyn | hyperstream: it means that PCIE is not a device that needs specific driver support, it works like pci for your software |
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| 10:03.04 | hyperstream | ahh |
| 10:03.06 | hyperstream | thanks |
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| 10:03.44 | dimir | G'day! |
| 10:03.50 | jm_ | Zugschlus: maybe it ran mkisofs -print-size and that failed |
| 10:03.51 | fireba11 | hi |
| 10:03.52 | tombs | Hi ppl |
| 10:03.53 | vorsprung | norskfjord, you can sometimes penetrate a firewall or NAT box using some odd properties of Internet protocols |
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| 10:04.02 | valdyn | hyperstream: not ask fucked up as agp where each company made its own driver interface |
| 10:04.07 | hyperstream | one more question, which is more successful and better in preformance in debain - Nvidia / ATI -- or the are equal |
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| 10:04.14 | hyperstream | valdyn, agreed |
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| 10:04.27 | valdyn | hyperstream: using the binary drivers - traditionally nvidia is better |
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| 10:04.39 | Zugschlus | jm_: any idea how to debug that? |
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| 10:04.44 | hyperstream | :( just read things about there chips and bench mark results |
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| 10:05.06 | jm_ | Zugschlus: I don't use k3b, but check if it has debugging options, strace might also help |
| 10:05.06 | hyperstream | how they make it optimized for benchmark results, yet when you set it up properly the preformance isnt as good as bench mark results |
| 10:05.25 | valdyn | hyperstream: benchmarks are meaningless |
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| 10:05.28 | tombs | I'm trying to make apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 and returns this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 10:05.34 | hyperstream | they are? |
| 10:05.44 | valdyn | hyperstream: yes, mostly |
| 10:05.49 | tombs | does someone knows how to fix it? |
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| 10:05.59 | jm_ | no doubt someone does |
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| 10:06.08 | valdyn | hyperstream: particularily 'the latest gfx card shootouts' ) |
| 10:06.12 | hyperstream | tombs, are you super user? |
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| 10:07.02 | tombs | hyperstream, yes |
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| 10:07.11 | Rich^ | cf |
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| 10:07.22 | smhar | tombs, apt-get update first |
| 10:07.30 | Zugschlus | Hm. |
| 10:07.34 | Zugschlus | mkisofs seems to segfault |
| 10:07.37 | hyperstream | valdyn, ahh i see, well im haven difficulty choosing a graphixs card. :/ thats all, i quite like ati's range of produces at the price around $400AU |
| 10:07.40 | tombs | smhar, I did that first |
| 10:07.46 | jm_ | heh nice |
| 10:07.55 | hyperstream | but its not worth gettng ati if its gonna be ghayd up on debian :/ |
| 10:08.01 | valdyn | hyperstream: what do you want to do with that card on linux/debian? |
| 10:08.05 | hyperstream | gaming |
| 10:08.08 | hyperstream | like |
| 10:08.08 | ukh | security.debian.org appears to be hit pretty bad |
| 10:08.14 | hyperstream | cs:s with wine/cedega |
| 10:08.14 | valdyn | hyperstream: with cedega? |
| 10:08.14 | smhar | tombs, I just finished installing 2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 10:08.17 | hyperstream | yeah |
| 10:08.24 | hyperstream | and hl2 bf2, wow |
| 10:08.28 | valdyn | hyperstream: clear winner is nvidia then, DONT get an ati |
| 10:08.31 | hyperstream | and i dont want to install windows lol |
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| 10:08.47 | hyperstream | ahh |
| 10:08.52 | hyperstream | cedega doesnt support ati? |
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| 10:09.06 | valdyn | hyperstream: quite badly |
| 10:09.27 | ukh | imho, ATI is just as bad on Windows and their drivers break with every Windows update |
| 10:09.28 | tombs | smhar, the problem is that I was running sarge, and I updraded to etch, but I cannot run dist-upgrade because of udev |
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| 10:09.36 | Trewas | hyperstream: couldn't you get a nvidia 6800gt based card for that price? surely beats anything made by ati at least in linux |
| 10:09.38 | tombs | udev requires kernel 2.6.12 |
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| 10:09.51 | hyperstream | 6800gt==$700 |
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| 10:10.01 | valdyn | hyperstream: no way |
| 10:10.03 | hyperstream | http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_list.php?maingroup=VIDEO%20CARD&secondgroup=PCI%20x%20NVIDIA%206800 |
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| 10:10.08 | carlinhos | may i download an older libc6 library by hand and link to use by a program which needs it instead the newer libc6 installed om debian sid? |
| 10:10.08 | hyperstream | there is the nvidia 6800 |
| 10:10.19 | smhar | I upgraded from sarge to etch.. testing to testing and it worked fine |
| 10:10.20 | hyperstream | let me get you the ati: http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_list.php?maingroup=VIDEO%20CARD&secondgroup=PCI%20x%20ATI%20X800 |
| 10:10.24 | hyperstream | look at price differences |
| 10:10.31 | valdyn | hyperstream: i _have_ an nvidia 6800 gt, that wasnt 700 half a year ago |
| 10:10.35 | Guerrrrin | all 3d cards have shit drivers |
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| 10:10.53 | hyperstream | and why do some 128mb's cost shitloads more than a freaken 256? would 256 be more preformance |
| 10:11.00 | tombs | smhar, it could be probably the sources.list? |
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| 10:11.10 | Trewas | hyperstream: well, GT seems to be 530$... but good to notice that finland is not the only expensive country ;) |
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| 10:11.23 | Guerrrrin | carlinhos: you could, if you installed it to an alternate location, such as /opt or /usr/local/ |
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| 10:11.26 | valdyn | hyperstream: gfx card memory has only effect if the game really uses that |
| 10:11.27 | hyperstream | oo really |
| 10:11.31 | ToMMY2k | ok my next question is: is it possible to make eth0 use eth1 and vice versa? |
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| 10:11.50 | carlinhos | so thanks |
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| 10:11.56 | hyperstream | see i dont have like 599 to spend on a 6800gt. and a 6600 is prolly getting a bit old |
| 10:11.58 | smhar | tombs, I think that many things changed between sarge and etch.. |
| 10:12.00 | Guerrrrin | carlinhos: what I'd do is create a chroot of an old release of debian and run my old app in there |
| 10:12.02 | hyperstream | so it seems im stuffed |
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| 10:12.19 | vorsprung | what use are 3d vid cards, except for playing games? |
| 10:12.21 | sep | ToMMY2k, reorder loading of modules, load modules with arguments or use ifrename pick one |
| 10:12.25 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: edit your /etc/modules, put the network card driver you want to be first into that file |
| 10:12.27 | Guerrrrin | hyperstream: you don't need that much gpu power anyway |
| 10:12.34 | Guerrrrin | you might think you do |
| 10:12.41 | Guerrrrin | but it's all just pressure to be 1337 |
| 10:12.46 | Zugschlus | ah. #329039 |
| 10:12.53 | valdyn | ToMMY2k: whichever you put there ( or if you put both, whichever is first ), will be eth0 |
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| 10:13.05 | carlinhos | ill probe first linking |
| 10:13.13 | Guerrrrin | carlinhos: the tool to install an old debian in a chroot is debootstrap |
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| 10:13.26 | ToMMY2k | thanks again for helping me here :) the machine is labeled at the back you see. |
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| 10:13.35 | smhar | tombs, check me sources.list.. not clean but it might help you |
| 10:13.48 | hyperstream | Guerrrrin, im sure i would to play the latest games and some in the near future |
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| 10:14.01 | valdyn | hyperstream: a 6800GT is ( with 256mb ram ), 288 euro |
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| 10:14.14 | hyperstream | yeah euro is almost x3 out currency |
| 10:14.18 | anhi | security.debian.org down? |
| 10:14.20 | hyperstream | atleast i think |
| 10:14.31 | tombs | smhar, thanx, I'll check mine now |
| 10:14.32 | carlinhos | yes i know but install an old debian is a hard work, only if the link doent work ill do |
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| 10:16.04 | bcc | hi guys, is it possible to install debian remotely on a red hat box? not a chrooted install, but a complete debian install, removing old crap |
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| 10:16.24 | valdyn | !debtakeover |
| 10:16.25 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
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| 10:16.30 | Guerrrrin | bcc: you'd start with a chrooted install, and eventually move it out of the chroot |
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| 10:16.42 | Guerrrrin | using debtakeover would be most unwise |
| 10:16.48 | hansi_xp | can I ask an mplayer question about dvd? |
| 10:16.56 | Guerrrrin | this can be done with debootstrap etc. |
| 10:17.06 | valdyn | hansi_xp: no metaquestions please |
| 10:17.07 | bcc | Guerrrrin, valdyn: thanks |
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| 10:17.15 | SimonRaven | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 10:17.18 | hansi_xp | valdyn: what's a metaquestion |
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| 10:17.29 | valdyn | !tell hansi_xp -about ask |
| 10:17.36 | Guerrrrin | anhi: timeout for me |
| 10:17.36 | SimonRaven | asking if you can ask a question |
| 10:17.40 | bcc | what are the chances of it failing?? :) |
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| 10:17.51 | hansi_xp | okay, i can't listen to dvd sound using mplayer, but i got a plugin for vlc for esd and it worked, i think it is because of the audio decoder |
| 10:17.53 | Guerrrrin | bcc: somewhere between 0 and 1 |
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| 10:18.16 | valdyn | hansi_xp: 'mplayer -ao help' |
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| 10:18.32 | bcc | ok. does anybody wonna do a small consulting gig? |
| 10:18.49 | adrian_ | mmm........ apt-get install vlc* <-- that's it |
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| 10:19.11 | carlinhos | how can i know to which libc6 version belongs libc6.1-1.so.2? thanks |
| 10:19.28 | valdyn | !find libc6.1-1.so.2 |
| 10:19.44 | Zugschlus | Hm. Do I need to make mkisofs suid to work with k3b? |
| 10:19.56 | azeem | carlinhos: where did you find that file? |
| 10:20.16 | valdyn | carlinhos: chmod +x it, then try to run that file ( dangerous ) |
| 10:20.23 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libc6.1-1.so.2' returned no results. |
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| 10:20.47 | hansi_xp | valdyn: i was wondering what audio codec mplayer needs to play dvd's |
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| 10:20.54 | carlinhos | valdyn, this file isnt in my system, a program complains about it, i mean because i use a newer libc6 than the one needen by the program |
| 10:20.56 | cartucho | nas |
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| 10:21.18 | valdyn | carlinhos: that is one shitty program for sure |
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| 10:21.35 | SimonRaven | statically compiled or something... |
| 10:21.39 | hansi_xp | valdyn: by looking at vlc, it says libfaad2, so does this mean i have to compile mplayer with lbfaad2? |
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| 10:21.43 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 10:22.23 | valdyn | hansi_xp: did you use marillat's mlpayer? |
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| 10:22.23 | valdyn | hansi_xp: why the hell did you compile mplayer yourself? |
| 10:22.23 | hansi_xp | valdyn: no, what's marillat's |
| 10:22.23 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 10:22.23 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
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| 10:22.24 | tombs | carlinhos, brasileiro? |
| 10:22.24 | valdyn | hansi_xp: you obviously compiled mplayer without libfaad2 |
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| 10:22.24 | hansi_xp | valdyn: na i didn't compile mplayer myself, well i did, but then deleted it, and used a packed one |
| 10:22.24 | carlinhos | spanish |
| 10:22.25 | tombs | oh |
| 10:22.25 | adrian_ | what do i need to learn if i want to get remote control using ssh or telnet like client commands of my victim? port scanner? |
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| 10:22.49 | hansi_xp | valdyn: my mplayer package didn't come with libfaad2 |
| 10:22.51 | liable | adrian_: your victem? wtf? |
| 10:22.53 | SimonRaven | victim? wtf |
| 10:23.00 | vorsprung | adrian_, wrong channel lol |
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| 10:23.01 | valdyn | hansi_xp: just use the marillat repository |
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| 10:23.35 | adrian_ | haha okay........ solo es mi pasatiempo |
| 10:23.35 | liable | adrian_: please to be fucking off! |
| 10:23.37 | vorsprung | adrian_, you klutz, you'll never make it as a 733t h4x0r |
| 10:23.37 | hansi_xp | valdyn: silly question - how do i get the marillat repository? |
| 10:23.44 | carlinhos | Adrian, malvado |
| 10:23.47 | valdyn | hansi_xp: dpkg told you |
| 10:23.50 | SimonRaven | dumbass... |
| 10:23.50 | Guerrrrin | adrian_: the most valuable tool in a hacker or cracker's arsenal is a Clue, which you evidently don't have. |
| 10:23.51 | adrian_ | im just 13 years old, stupid friend! |
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| 10:24.03 | Guerrrrin | adrian_: we can tell. |
| 10:24.06 | adrian_ | you should know more about it |
| 10:24.18 | vorsprung | adrian_, we aren't your "friend" |
| 10:24.19 | hansi_xp | thanks dpkg and valdyn |
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| 10:24.27 | SimonRaven | adrian_: go fuck yourslef sideways with a a 2x4 with rusty nails in it, kthxbye |
| 10:24.28 | carlinhos | adrian_, pecadorrrr |
| 10:24.31 | valdyn | !bot |
| 10:24.31 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 10:24.34 | liable | hmm, a script kiddie if ever.. |
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| 10:24.45 | liable | !ops adrian_ needs to leave |
| 10:24.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: adrian_ needs to leave |
| 10:24.47 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 10:24.48 | hansi_xp | valdyn: so what if i soughta got ubuntu ? :D |
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| 10:25.07 | djp | should cdrdao be installed by default if a desktop environment is chosen during install? (3.1 sarge official) |
| 10:25.09 | valdyn | hansi_xp: then /j #ubuntu and dont bother asking us |
| 10:25.11 | adrian_ | haha |
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| 10:25.29 | bob2 | hansi_xp: #ubuntu |
| 10:25.29 | hansi_xp | valdyn: them ubuntu people didn't know jack |
| 10:25.39 | SimonRaven | good fucking riddance |
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| 10:26.13 | sep | !they don't know |
| 10:26.13 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 10:26.26 | Zap-W | what's the equivalent to "net send" in linux? |
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| 10:26.52 | petemc | Zap-W: smbclient -M, or something |
| 10:26.57 | vorsprung | Zap-W, depends what "net send" is supposed to do :) |
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| 10:27.31 | SimonRaven | bugger off kindly, thanks |
| 10:27.35 | hansi_xp | bob2: what is it that you do punk? |
| 10:27.51 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, talking crap to the ops... |
| 10:28.03 | error403 | is security.debian.org slow for anyone else today? |
| 10:28.04 | bob2 | hansi_xp: please don't. |
| 10:28.07 | carlinhos | about marillat; why ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages doesnt connect? is my problem or has somebody the same? |
| 10:28.10 | sep | Zap-W, smbclient -M <netbios name> |
| 10:28.11 | SimonRaven | automatic ban |
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| 10:28.16 | sep | Zap-W, it's all in man smbclient |
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| 10:28.21 | valdyn | carlinhos: replace "unstable" with 'sid" |
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| 10:28.25 | hansi_xp | bob2: so why did you kick me off? |
| 10:28.28 | carlinhos | mm thanks |
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| 10:28.36 | bob2 | hansi_xp: because you're not actually using Debian |
| 10:28.38 | valdyn | carlinhos: dont ask me why, but the maintainer changed that in this ugly way |
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| 10:29.10 | chrsyv | I'm trying to install apache 1.3.33 with php4, is anything else needed to get things working than using "apt-get install apache php4" ? |
| 10:29.24 | bob2 | chrsyv: no |
| 10:29.26 | hansi_xp | bob2: but i do want to use debian. i like debian. |
| 10:29.27 | carlinhos | thas great, thanks valdyn |
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| 10:29.40 | bob2 | chrsyv: tho some people seem to have problems with it enableding the module automatically... |
| 10:29.43 | bob2 | come back if it doesn't work, anyway |
| 10:29.51 | valdyn | chrsyv: libapache-mod-php4 i guess |
| 10:29.57 | error403 | damn |
| 10:30.01 | chrsyv | bob2: Ok, I just get a download option when trying to access a .php file |
| 10:30.03 | row2 | What package contains snmpconf perl scripts? as I install snmpd and it did not come with it but README.debian says should be there etc. |
| 10:30.05 | error403 | valdyn, you got there first.. |
| 10:30.20 | SimonRaven | row2: /usr/share/doc/ good place to start |
| 10:30.26 | chrsyv | And yes, i've downloaded libapache-mod-php4 |
| 10:30.31 | concept10 | What is the best image program to create logos with? inkscape/sodipodi or gimp? |
| 10:30.33 | Zap-W | sep: and the other way around ? |
| 10:30.34 | jm_ | row2: /msg dpkg search |
| 10:30.36 | SimonRaven | like i don't know, snmpd for instance... |
| 10:30.38 | row2 | SimonRaven I am not stupid I have checked system its not installed... |
| 10:30.38 | hansi_xp | bob2: Why wouldn't debian stuff work on ubuntu? |
| 10:30.47 | SimonRaven | row2: *plonk* |
| 10:30.49 | sep | Zap-W, what you mean ? |
| 10:30.57 | trollboy | because its ubuntu and not debian? |
| 10:30.57 | carlinhos | row2, this is a misconfiguration |
| 10:31.02 | liable | hansi_xp: please #ubuntu |
| 10:31.07 | hansi_xp | but isn't ubuntu based on debian? |
| 10:31.16 | valdyn | @based on |
| 10:31.16 | valdyn | !based on |
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| 10:31.18 | liable | here we go.. |
| 10:31.21 | valdyn | @based on debian |
| 10:31.23 | SimonRaven | ffs... |
| 10:31.26 | Zap-W | sep: windows to linux |
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| 10:31.35 | valdyn | wru apt |
| 10:31.35 | row2 | carlinhos: as in I must locate it myself, and if so has it been alterd by debian? |
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| 10:32.02 | liable | hansi_xp: no, its *not* deban, no matter what you think |
| 10:32.02 | SimonRaven | sunday's lagging again... |
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| 10:32.20 | liable | debian too.. |
| 10:32.23 | hansi_xp | liable: i swear everybody wants a piece of me |
| 10:32.31 | SimonRaven | you wish |
| 10:32.34 | bob2 | hansi_xp: if you don't know why, you shouldn't be asking ubuntu question here |
| 10:32.36 | Guerrrrin | concept10: the one which you know how to use |
| 10:32.40 | sep | hansi_xp, we have no clue to what alterations the ubuntu guyes have done, so any advice we give you in debian context might totaly break your system, you should be happy we dont help you instead of telling you things that might break your computer |
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| 10:32.46 | liable | hansi_xp: well, if you /j #ubuntu, it will stop.. :P |
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| 10:32.49 | bob2 | hansi_xp: you can be as insecure and paranoid as you like, but you're still off-topic here |
| 10:32.59 | chrsyv | bob2: ok done that, and doesn't look like it's enabled automatically I guess. |
| 10:33.04 | bob2 | chrsyv: weird |
| 10:33.10 | bob2 | chrsyv: /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian? |
| 10:33.30 | redguy|work | is there something wrong with security.debian.org? |
| 10:33.30 | SimonRaven | dpkg: test |
| 10:33.31 | dpkg | No, simonraven, you're not online any more. |
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| 10:33.34 | carlinhos | row2, apt-cache search php | grep lib, install what you need and reconfigure apache |
| 10:33.40 | Guerrrrin | redguy|work: timeouts, yeah |
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| 10:33.46 | bob2 | redguy|work: it's a bit overloaded today |
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| 10:33.49 | bob2 | redguy|work: people are looking at it |
| 10:34.02 | Guerrrrin | bob2: any idea why? too many people updating? |
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| 10:34.09 | row2 | carlinhos: er I asked about snmpconf... |
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| 10:34.17 | carlinhos | sorry |
| 10:34.30 | row2 | carlinhos: nm :) |
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| 10:34.47 | vorsprung | I remember solving all these quotey placeholder problems |
| 10:34.55 | chrsyv | Ok bob2, I'll read it. |
| 10:34.58 | carlinhos | my neuronas isnt good |
| 10:35.15 | bob2 | Guerrrrin: some important update or something, I hear |
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| 10:35.50 | carlinhos | chrsyv, apt-cache search php | grep lib, install what you need and reconfigure apache |
| 10:36.00 | bob2 | hansi_xp: if you want to use Debiam, you're welcome here when you're using it |
| 10:36.06 | liable | if i have my etch partition mounted at boot, i cant chroot to it, but if i umount and then mount it again without options, i can. why? |
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| 10:36.39 | bob2 | liable: what happens when you try to chroot? |
| 10:36.45 | hansi_xp | bob2: does it burn you that bad, that i just sit here quietly? |
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| 10:36.59 | liable | bob2: the no /bin/bash thing |
| 10:37.38 | bob2 | hansi_xp: you're welcome to sit quietly, I'm just pointing it out for future reference |
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| 10:37.50 | bob2 | liable: can you see /bin/bash with ls? |
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| 10:38.09 | hansi_xp | bob2: thanks dude. i really do want to put debian on my system. no joke. |
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| 10:38.13 | redguy|work | ouch, www.debian.org timeouts as well. Does anyone hapen to know how important the update is? |
| 10:38.17 | liable | bob2: hmm, i am sure i could, sec just remounted and upgrading. |
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| 10:38.25 | redguy|work | s/hapen/happen/ |
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| 10:39.08 | bob2 | redguy|work: www.debian.org is the same machine as security; www.de.debian.org works |
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| 10:40.00 | redguy|work | bob2: thanks |
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| 10:42.36 | Rich^ | Wahts with the fucked host masks when people join |
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| 10:42.42 | Rich^ | idents with letters and = |
| 10:42.43 | Rich^ | :S |
| 10:43.08 | liable | bob2: hmm, unusual, if i ls /mnt/etch/bin, no such file.., but if i cd to /mt/etch then ls /bin, i can see it.. |
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| 10:43.38 | bob2 | that is very odd |
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| 10:43.55 | OleMoudi | what's the correct menu.lst entry to boot a winxp partition? |
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| 10:44.09 | valdyn | OleMoudi: its in there already, commented out |
| 10:44.16 | OleMoudi | I added one with gnome boot manager but doesnt work |
| 10:44.23 | SimonRaven | uh |
| 10:44.35 | cahoot | liable: /mt/etch being a typo? |
| 10:44.43 | liable | cahoot: yeah :) |
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| 10:45.06 | liable | cahoot: i cant type on the best of days :) |
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| 10:47.20 | liable | now, if i remount without options, then i can ls /bin... |
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| 10:47.41 | bob2 | what options is it mounted with? |
| 10:47.42 | SimonRaven | what's mount doing to it at boot that you aren't after boot? |
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| 10:48.09 | liable | rw users noatime |
| 10:48.30 | liable | 0 0 |
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| 10:49.01 | cahoot | users impliy noexec? |
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| 10:49.10 | bob2 | ah-hah |
| 10:49.13 | liable | does it? |
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| 10:49.42 | bob2 | I've been burnt by that before, sadly my memory sucks |
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| 10:50.21 | liable | let me see.. |
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| 10:51.24 | liable | hah |
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| 10:51.33 | ciroro | !find /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmix.so |
| 10:51.42 | cahoot | wife objects |
| 10:51.47 | liable | heh |
| 10:51.52 | dajomu | how can I get /var/www/htdocs installed on debian? which apache packaged contains this one? |
| 10:51.56 | bob2 | haha |
| 10:51.59 | liable | no sexual innuendo implied... |
| 10:52.02 | bob2 | dajomu: why do you want that? |
| 10:52.04 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmix.so' returned no results. |
| 10:52.06 | Skaag | dajomu: apt-get install apache |
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| 10:52.20 | bob2 | dajomu: if you want apache docs, just install apache-doc and go to localhost/doc |
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| 10:52.38 | ciroro | How can I now find which package provides /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmix.so? Its corrupt so I want to reinstall it |
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| 10:52.50 | valdyn | !tell ciroro -about search |
| 10:52.50 | Skaag | ciroro: I suggest apt-file |
| 10:52.55 | anne_18 | hi |
| 10:53.00 | anne_18 | how are u? |
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| 10:53.14 | Skaag | hi anne_18 |
| 10:53.17 | valdyn | ciroro: according to what dpkg said however that file just might not be in debian |
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| 10:53.25 | anne_18 | hi |
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| 10:53.37 | liable | anne_18: hi |
| 10:53.40 | valdyn | ciroro: /msg dpkg find <file> <debianrelease> |
| 10:53.42 | jm_ | sure it is |
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| 10:54.01 | grace | ctc? |
| 10:54.12 | SimonRaven | wth |
| 10:54.22 | dajomu | bob : I am not sure if I need it, but it looks like the oher servers I am looking at use it |
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| 10:54.45 | Skaag | dajomu: it's always best if you just say what you are really trying to achieve |
| 10:54.46 | ciroro | valdyn: okay; dpkg said it's just kmix; thanks |
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| 10:55.58 | hansi_xp | valdyn: regarding mplayer, i have that libfaad2, in mplayer you have to call it faad |
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| 10:56.14 | anne_18 | hi |
| 10:56.17 | anne_18 | ; |
| 10:56.18 | anne_18 | ' |
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| 10:56.35 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 10:56.37 | bob2 | shock |
| 10:56.37 | asmodaiii | np: Michael Jackson - Break Of Dawn at 128kbps [2:01 of 5:29] |
| 10:56.56 | liable | eh? |
| 10:57.02 | asmodaiii | sorry |
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| 10:57.09 | SimonRaven | turn that dumb script off please |
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| 10:57.27 | asmodaiii | SimonRaven: ... va pas me faire chier parce que je me trompe de fenetre non plus! |
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| 10:57.44 | valdyn | !tell asmodaiii -about away |
| 10:57.47 | SimonRaven | asg: kiss my asss too, trou de cul d'encule |
| 10:57.55 | valdyn | hmm, didnt i do that yesterday already |
| 10:57.58 | SimonRaven | asmodaiii: ^^^ |
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| 10:58.14 | asmodaiii | merde francais :) |
| 10:58.16 | asmodaiii | lol |
| 10:58.23 | SimonRaven | asmodaiii: crisse de con |
| 10:58.38 | asmodaiii | jvais manger, afk |
| 10:58.46 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:59.02 | SimonRaven | asg: bad tab completion, sorry |
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| 11:00.57 | SimonRaven | full moon, everyone goes nuts |
| 11:01.05 | Penix | wenas |
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| 11:01.38 | liable | of course.. |
| 11:01.58 | liable | nuts go with wenas! |
| 11:02.23 | SimonRaven | hi Penix |
| 11:02.31 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 11:02.31 | dpkg | < ceige> dpkg: I'm not stupid! I use MSN! |
| 11:03.05 | hansi_xp | can somebody help me with mplayer. please? |
| 11:03.30 | error403 | is there a way to make a DHCP server only use on network interface? (i have 2) |
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| 11:03.37 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 11:03.39 | liable | hansi_xp: please ask in #ubuntu, or #mplayer |
| 11:03.40 | bob2 | sure |
| 11:03.45 | Flawless | hansi_xp: please read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 11:03.49 | bob2 | read the /etc/default/dhcp3 config file |
| 11:04.00 | bob2 | hansi_xp: your mplayer question is ubuntu-specific and unrelated to Debian |
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| 11:04.13 | error403 | bob2, thanks! |
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| 11:04.20 | error403 | never would have thought to look there... |
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| 11:04.28 | Flawless | Can anyone else access security.debian.org? |
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| 11:04.38 | liable | not me. |
| 11:04.39 | bob2 | error403: yeah, I only found it by reading the init script |
| 11:04.40 | valdyn | !fgi hansi ubuntu+mplayer |
| 11:04.41 | dpkg | hansi: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=ubuntu+mplayer |
| 11:04.45 | hansi_xp | Flawless: thanks dude, that's cool |
| 11:04.50 | bob2 | Flawless: it's slow/down |
| 11:04.59 | Flawless | bob2: ok thank you |
| 11:05.03 | Flawless | hansi_xp: no problem :) |
| 11:05.16 | hansi_xp | fgi? |
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| 11:05.26 | Flawless | hansi_xp: a crude acronym ;) |
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| 11:05.38 | liable | whats actually wrong with security atm? |
| 11:05.43 | ciroro | error403: just edit your dhcpd.conf |
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| 11:05.56 | Flawless | bob2: wow, it really IS up... sort of. response time in minutes.. ;) |
| 11:06.01 | valdyn | hansi_xp: oh no, only the 2nd link showing on google tells you what to do exactly |
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| 11:06.17 | bob2 | liable: very high load |
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| 11:06.23 | error403 | ciroro, apart from the fact there isnt an interface option/directive in it? |
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| 11:06.35 | hansi_xp | valdyn: what's the second link? |
| 11:06.38 | liable | bob2: due to a particular reason? |
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| 11:06.56 | bob2 | some security update, I gather |
| 11:06.56 | bob2 | I don't know what it is |
| 11:07.02 | ciroro | error403: dhcpd will find out which interfaces uses which ipaddress, and only listens on those |
| 11:07.03 | liable | ok |
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| 11:07.45 | redguy|work | it seems that the update is kde-related and people are downloading a bunch of kde packages |
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| 11:08.00 | Flawless | redguy|work: but there's just one update? |
| 11:08.09 | Flawless | still, a reasonable explanation :) |
| 11:08.15 | ciroro | is there a live distro which automatically starts dhcpd and sshd? I want to fsck the root partition of a box without video/keyb access. |
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| 11:08.38 | grace | ctc? |
| 11:08.49 | redguy|work | Flawless: its kdebase, see http://www.de.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-815 |
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| 11:09.11 | Flawless | redguy|work: I've read it :) |
| 11:09.15 | Flawless | redguy|work: thanks though. |
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| 11:09.29 | Flawless | redguy|work: My point is, how can one package get the server to it's knees? |
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| 11:09.36 | Flawless | redguy|work: a gazillion users? :) |
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| 11:10.09 | liable | hmm, well i am getting etch hanging on it.. |
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| 11:10.24 | liable | ooh, its done.. |
| 11:10.41 | Flawless | oh, I'm getting 20kb/s... "not bad" ;) |
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| 11:10.49 | Flawless | well, it's free, I can't complain :) |
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| 11:11.05 | Penix | I hate the fact that I can pick things up easier when reading printed documentation |
| 11:11.07 | redguy|work | Flawless: it's like 20 or more packages in this update, they are most propably quite large |
| 11:11.13 | Penix | gonna cost me a fortune to finish learning python |
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| 11:11.27 | fireba11 | Penix: lol |
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| 11:11.51 | Flawless | redguy|work: Oh I see. It only mentioned kdebase |
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| 11:11.59 | ricky_clarkson | Penix: I can pick up a CD easier than a book. |
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| 11:12.07 | liable | Penix: being able to read on the shitter is a big plus, imo :P |
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| 11:12.29 | Penix | liable: hadn't even thought of that... |
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| 11:12.47 | liable | hard to take the lappy.. |
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| 11:13.10 | Penix | "What are you doing in there?!" "I'm slicing a list, I swear!" |
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| 11:13.26 | liable | haha |
| 11:13.26 | ricky_clarkson | My Dad calls it the library. |
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| 11:13.47 | ricky_clarkson | He phoned me once when I was in a real library, and when I told him where I was, he thought I meant on the shitter. ;) |
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| 11:13.55 | Penix | heh |
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| 11:20.08 | liable | hmm, man mount actually explains quite explicitally why i couldnt chroot with the users option... |
| 11:20.14 | liable | !lart me |
| 11:20.20 | liable | ewww |
| 11:20.31 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 11:20.31 | dpkg | [qotd133] <Atula> I was wondering if someone can tell me how to write the fstab for the tape drive |
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| 11:21.23 | walterbrunswick | To install the full Debian system from CD you need 14 CD images, right? |
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| 11:21.40 | petemc | walterbrunswick: no |
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| 11:22.04 | walterbrunswick | go on... |
| 11:22.40 | fireba11 | walterbrunswick: ?? |
| 11:22.45 | walterbrunswick | petemc: Please explain. |
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| 11:22.50 | beta_release | walterbrunswick: for most people the first 4 cd contain more than enough packages |
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| 11:23.02 | petemc | walterbrunswick: you wont be installing every package on every cd, will you? |
| 11:23.11 | walterbrunswick | I'm not sure. |
| 11:23.15 | liable | walterbrunswick: you have internet? |
| 11:23.28 | walterbrunswick | No, I'm on IRC but I don't have Internet.. |
| 11:23.31 | Flawless | walterbrunswick: I just used a slimmed-down version of cd 1! |
| 11:23.50 | Flawless | walterbrunswick: it's very easy to use, and I carry it around with me, so I can show it to other people :) |
| 11:23.57 | petemc | walterbrunswick: why dont you read the install guide instead of coming here and being a smartass |
| 11:23.57 | liable | walterbrunswick: samrt ass, for the fucking box you are installing on.. |
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| 11:24.09 | hansi_xp | what program can play dvd's command line? |
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| 11:24.16 | walterbrunswick | sorry liable, yes I do |
| 11:24.17 | Flawless | hansi_xp: mplayer |
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| 11:24.45 | hansi_xp | mplayer is getting cheeky to me Flawless |
| 11:24.50 | liable | !tell walterbrunswick about d-i |
| 11:24.53 | walterbrunswick | I was reading the manual. |
| 11:24.56 | Flawless | hansi_xp: are you using ubuntu? |
| 11:25.01 | maakud | walterbrunswick: you do not need all 15,000 odd packages in stable. |
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| 11:25.15 | larrikin | somethings up with the archive? mirrors are out of sync.. |
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| 11:25.30 | walterbrunswick | maakud, ok gotchya, thanks |
| 11:25.39 | hansi_xp | Flawless: yes, please don't scare me off |
| 11:25.51 | maakud | walterbrunswick: install from first 4 CD's. see if you get functionality you need. if not then download appropriate remaining CD. |
| 11:25.53 | Flawless | hansi_xp: I'm not, but none of us here are using ubuntu! It's a different OS! |
| 11:26.11 | hansi_xp | Flawless: i think it just makes it more interesting |
| 11:26.12 | Flawless | hansi_xp: so please, go to #ubuntu. There's a lot of friendly people there, who can actually solve your problem .) |
| 11:26.22 | walterbrunswick | Where exactly is this mentioned in the manual? |
| 11:26.28 | Eclipser | ubuntu people friendly? |
| 11:26.32 | Eclipser | : |
| 11:26.32 | Eclipser | :p |
| 11:26.34 | liable | walterbrunswick: use the net installer, or the first iso if you want.. |
| 11:26.37 | Flawless | hansi_xp: or, just ask in #mplayer, they made the program :) |
| 11:26.40 | Flawless | Eclipser: ;) |
| 11:26.43 | Eclipser | Flawless, he already did |
| 11:26.47 | sep | Eclipser, abotu as friendly as #debian i'd wager :) |
| 11:26.50 | walterbrunswick | yep, the netinst is a definite possibility |
| 11:26.53 | Flawless | Eclipser: also #mplayer? |
| 11:26.53 | liable | walterbrunswick: see what dpkg msg you with |
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| 11:26.58 | hansi_xp | Flawless: i've been asking mplayer, i'll try ubuntu again |
| 11:27.01 | Eclipser | Flawless, yeah, that's what I meant |
| 11:27.03 | maakud | walterbrunswick: if you feel it should be mentioned in the manual. pl file bug report. |
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| 11:27.03 | Flawless | oh |
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| 11:27.05 | Flawless | hmm |
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| 11:27.39 | walterbrunswick | I'm sorry I frequent 77 IRC networks, so I ignore all privmsgs, unless permission is asked prior to. |
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| 11:27.46 | Eclipser | we were trying to get him to use some xine frontend instead :) |
| 11:27.49 | walterbrunswick | Please make dpkg msg me again. |
| 11:27.56 | maakud | walterbrunswick: but i think it does say that most packages are on first 4 cds. |
| 11:28.04 | liable | !tell walterbrunswick about d-i |
| 11:28.15 | ricky_clarkson | I love a shoulder msg. |
| 11:28.17 | maakud | s/most packages/most packages people want/ |
| 11:28.27 | walterbrunswick | okay |
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| 11:28.47 | maakud | sorry got that wrong. it should be "packages most people want". |
| 11:29.39 | walterbrunswick | ok thanks for the help guys. Sorry for being a smart ass, you guys are a great support team :] |
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| 11:30.02 | beta_release | no prob |
| 11:30.23 | maakud | walterbrunswick: i hope you are not being too sarcastic. |
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| 11:31.02 | walterbrunswick | maakud: Not at all. |
| 11:31.02 | Pitr__ | is there something wrong with e2fsprogs? |
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| 11:31.13 | walterbrunswick | The support here for Debian is unreal. |
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| 11:31.28 | Pitr__ | (Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop) |
| 11:31.30 | maakud | Pitr__: what is the problem? |
| 11:31.30 | robin_ | guys ... is security.debian.org down or is it just me |
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| 11:31.41 | Pitr__ | robin_: it was slow for me all morning |
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| 11:31.45 | liable | robin_: its slow atm |
| 11:31.49 | Pitr__ | i'm connected close to it's physical location |
| 11:31.50 | robin_ | k |
| 11:31.57 | robin_ | im in .ch ... |
| 11:32.01 | robin_ | miles away |
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| 11:32.20 | robin_ | sorry, km away ;) |
| 11:32.26 | Pitr__ | maakud: i'm upgrading subversion, and the upgrade fails because E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. |
| 11:32.28 | maakud | Pitr__: perhaps that is the reason for the loop. mis-matched packages files that are in the process of being updated perhaps. |
| 11:32.39 | Pitr__ | so, a clean should do it ? |
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| 11:32.44 | liable | Pitr__: there have been a few people with the e2fsprogs problem lately.. yes. |
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| 11:33.00 | robin_ | oh, htf do I get X to pretend this crazy swiss keyboard is an en_US one |
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| 11:33.26 | Pitr__ | liable: I just had it on two machines this day |
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| 11:33.50 | maakud | robin_: you want xkeycaps util perhaps. |
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| 11:34.22 | liable | Pitr__: sarge? i have an etch and sid boxen, and havent had it, but, yes theres been a few here lately about it.. |
| 11:34.24 | robin_ | maakud, maybe, looking ... |
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| 11:35.04 | Pitr__ | liable: yes |
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| 11:35.54 | carlinhos | i have installed the old library libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1_2.91.66-4_i386.deb needed by a program but an error occurs, if somebody may take a view at http://aquiles.dyndns.biz/jvm/pastebin i will be gratefull. thanks |
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| 11:36.37 | liable | Pitr__: well, let it do as it wants i spose.. should be safe.. |
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| 11:36.45 | bob2 | carlinhos: that program is ridiculously old |
| 11:36.54 | gungnir | what is the official mirror for security updates? |
| 11:37.05 | bob2 | there isn't one |
| 11:37.10 | bob2 | security.debian.org is it |
| 11:37.15 | gungnir | oKtosiTe_work, ta |
| 11:37.26 | gungnir | bob: ta |
| 11:37.59 | carlinhos | that the thing i dont understand .... is the j2re1.4.0 and in a debian sid not upgraded works fine, but in a debian sid recently upgraded it complains |
| 11:38.11 | Pitr__ | liable: eh. okidoki. |
| 11:38.11 | bob2 | carlinhos: time to get a less ridiculously old version of ajava |
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| 11:39.27 | carlinhos | isnt an old version, is the standar version, the 1.5 is the new version but already buggy |
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| 11:40.06 | bob2 | well, it's buggy |
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| 11:40.18 | bob2 | anything that depends on libstdc++2.9 is OLD |
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| 11:40.24 | bob2 | with a capital "FUCK OFF SUN" |
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| 11:40.29 | carlinhos | sorry but my english is so poor |
| 11:40.43 | liable | haha |
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| 11:42.11 | carlinhos | well i dont want to discuss about gpl, free software and those things ... |
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| 11:42.26 | floyd | whats with the selinux mess in unstable? |
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| 11:42.48 | floyd | anyway to disable it with a boot flag? |
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| 11:42.52 | liable | oh no, i let udev upgrade. |
| 11:42.55 | bob2 | carlinhos: if you say so, but the issue is with the java binary being incompatible with sid |
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| 11:43.10 | bob2 | floyd: I really doubt the kernels in sid enable selinux by default |
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| 11:43.39 | floyd | yeah they don't but init is looking for it |
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| 11:44.09 | carlinhos | i mean not, because i have a sid with 2 month without being updated and it works |
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| 11:44.46 | bob2 | right, sid has a new glibc |
| 11:44.52 | bob2 | java is broken for using that symbol to begin with |
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| 11:44.55 | bob2 | it happened to work until now |
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| 11:45.05 | carlinhos | yes |
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| 11:45.27 | floyd | for some reason coreutils and friends are depending on libselinux1 |
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| 11:45.48 | bob2 | yeah, they're selinux-enabled now |
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| 11:45.56 | bob2 | but do nothing if your kernel doesn't enable it |
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| 11:47.03 | floyd | so just at the point the kernel passes control over to init there is a quick error about unable to mount /selinux/ and then some errors from something calling 'ls' but ls has unresolved symbols as it is dynamically linked to libs in other partitions |
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| 11:47.31 | floyd | why i don't know... |
| 11:47.41 | larrikin | where is perlapi-5.8.7 required by libtext-iconv-perl ? |
| 11:47.42 | Guerrrrin | errors, or warnings? |
| 11:47.59 | Guerrrrin | larrikin: everywhere? |
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| 11:48.22 | larrikin | Guerrrrin: debian web search finds nothing, apt-cache finds nothing.. |
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| 11:48.48 | norskfjord | how do I make it so no one can ssh me from the internet but I can ssh from the network? |
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| 11:49.11 | uservhy56 | an access list |
| 11:49.13 | Guerrrrin | larrikin: perhaps nowhere, then |
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| 11:49.27 | robin_ | right .. keyboard configured |
| 11:49.29 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: man sshd_config |
| 11:49.42 | cahoot | norskfjord: AllowUsers might be of use |
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| 11:50.37 | norskfjord | man sshd_config manual entry for sshd_config |
| 11:50.50 | norskfjord | there is none |
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| 11:51.11 | robin_ | now ... I have a dual head matrox card, both displays running OK, but they are seperate screens, rather than xinerama .. so I cant drag apps from one screen to the next seemingly ... I tried setting the Xinerama server flag, to no avail, any other clues? |
| 11:51.12 | larrikin | damn virtual package pre-depending on things that pre-depend on it.. |
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| 11:51.15 | babyrobbe | man ssh |
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| 11:51.35 | daft | Im in search of a extended letter program with ohm and AE and stuff |
| 11:51.39 | norskfjord | not found |
| 11:51.47 | Guerrrrin | !extended chars |
| 11:51.47 | dpkg | from memory, extended chars is to enter chars like ïÇô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñ, or the complete list of combinations is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/*/Compose, where * depends on your locale (iso8859-1 is default), or similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the ... |
| 11:51.48 | norskfjord | my computer doesn't like manual pages... |
| 11:51.48 | cahoot | openssh? |
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| 11:52.12 | daft | ty |
| 11:52.16 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: your computer is going to have to like them. Make sure you have a sshd installed. |
| 11:52.25 | norskfjord | it is |
| 11:52.34 | msn | robin_: did you try google, I did the same thing with my Asus nvidia picexpress card, I have to monitors with which I drag windoes across the monitors |
| 11:52.54 | daft | Guerrrrin: but when can i find the letters ïÇô¿ |
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| 11:53.02 | robin_ | msn: nope .. I tried her instead :) |
| 11:53.06 | robin_ | here |
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| 11:53.18 | larrikin | perl-base (5.8.7) is supposed to provide virtual pkg perlapi-5.8.7 .. but it shows as uninstalled with perl-base installed ? |
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| 11:53.39 | msn | just had to search for dual monitors X |
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| 11:54.01 | msn | try it works faster then if I do the same search and give you the answer |
| 11:54.08 | daryk | hi |
| 11:54.28 | larrikin | damn .. think something is screwy |
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| 11:55.15 | msn | I just setup bacula with empty passwords can't figure how togenerate new passwords, did google got no results.. |
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| 11:55.38 | Guerrrrin | daft: read the above factoid |
| 11:55.43 | norskfjord | what is blacula? |
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| 11:56.13 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: i dunno, but bacula is a backup program |
| 11:56.23 | Guerrrrin | msn: did you rtfm? |
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| 11:57.44 | [TACO] | haha |
| 11:58.12 | sarge | hi people how do i check if dma has been enabled for my hard disk |
| 11:58.18 | Pitr__ | http://channels.debian.net/paste/736 |
| 11:58.20 | Pitr__ | ncurses booboo |
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| 11:58.31 | Shadowcat | sarge: hdparm /dev/hda |
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| 11:59.11 | cahoot | sarge: dmesg|grep -i dma |
| 11:59.11 | Guerrrrin | !info ncurses-base |
| 11:59.16 | dpkg | ncurses-base: (Descriptions of common terminal types), section utils, is required. Version: 5.4-9 (sid), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 300 kB |
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| 11:59.22 | dimir | sarge: hdparm -d /dev/hda |
| 11:59.25 | Guerrrrin | Pitr__: welcome to sid. |
| 11:59.26 | norskfjord | hey what can I do if someone keeps trying to get into my system to teach them a lesson? |
| 11:59.29 | Pitr__ | Guerrrrin: it's the package 8) |
| 11:59.31 | jm_ | Pitr__: check BTS |
| 11:59.34 | Pitr__ | Guerrrrin: hrrm |
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| 11:59.39 | jm_ | no shit sherlock |
| 11:59.40 | norskfjord | null route? |
| 11:59.43 | sarge | dimir : says no dma enabled |
| 11:59.46 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: run your ssshd on a different port |
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| 11:59.54 | dimir | sarge: so? |
| 11:59.59 | [TACO] | On bootup, it reports that "mounting local filesystem... failed" but continues to boot, I can log in and do what I can normally do. dmesg output does not report the failure itself |
| 12:00.04 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: you can do that, but it's almost certainly a waste of time |
| 12:00.10 | norskfjord | some was dropping me before |
| 12:00.10 | daft | Guerrrrin: i dont have a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/*/Compose |
| 12:00.17 | Guerrrrin | [TACO]: that's a warning |
| 12:00.23 | sarge | /dev/hda: using_dma = 0 (off) |
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| 12:00.25 | Guerrrrin | daft: it'll be around there someplace. |
| 12:00.28 | ircops | morning |
| 12:00.31 | Guerrrrin | !warnings |
| 12:00.31 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software throws warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informational output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 12:00.36 | liable | hmm, dist-upgrade holds packages, but upgrade installs.. is it just me, or is that backwards./ |
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| 12:00.48 | cahoot | sarge: self made kernel (or sata?) |
| 12:00.51 | [TACO] | Guerrrrin: is there any way to check what problems it ran into to give me that warning? |
| 12:01.04 | Guerrrrin | [TACO]: probably, but I don't really know. |
| 12:01.05 | sarge | cahoot : self made kernel and ide |
| 12:01.11 | [TACO] | Guerrrrin: ok |
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| 12:01.17 | [TACO] | Anyone else have an idea on how to check? |
| 12:01.21 | ricky_clarkson | !warnings =~ s/throws/outputs/ |
| 12:01.21 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: OK |
| 12:01.23 | cahoot | sarge: misconfigured kernel is my guess |
| 12:01.30 | ricky_clarkson | !warnings =~ s/informational/informative/ |
| 12:01.30 | dpkg | OK, ricky_clarkson |
| 12:01.32 | dimir | sarge: set it on |
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| 12:01.44 | dimir | sarge: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| 12:01.46 | ricky_clarkson | !dict informational |
| 12:01.48 | dpkg | could not find definition for informational |
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| 12:02.02 | hansi_xp | me again. been asking around on ubuntu for help with mplayer, but without much luck. anybody familiar with mplayer? |
| 12:02.04 | sarge | dimir : says operation not permitted |
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| 12:02.16 | cahoot | sarge: misconfigured kernel |
| 12:02.16 | dimir | sarge: as root |
| 12:02.22 | Shadowcat | hansi_xp: we don't support ubuntu |
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| 12:02.24 | Ether_Man | hansi_xp: mplayer has it's own support channel you know.. |
| 12:02.24 | hansi_xp | oh and asked around on mplayer too, no luck either |
| 12:02.28 | sarge | dimir : yes as root |
| 12:02.35 | sarge | cahoot : i think ur right |
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| 12:02.57 | Guerrrrin | !ur |
| 12:02.58 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 12:02.59 | hansi_xp | dudes, i know that this is a debian channel, but i reckon you guys are pretty smart owning debian and all. so that's why i ask. |
| 12:03.08 | [TACO] | Guerrrrin: know of any tools I can use to check the physical harddrive to make sure it hasn't failed somehow? |
| 12:03.11 | Shadowcat | we don't "own" debian |
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| 12:03.23 | hansi_xp | dude, you know what i mean |
| 12:03.28 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: please don't pm me. Talk in-channel. |
| 12:03.32 | Shadowcat | !ubuntu |
| 12:03.32 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
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| 12:03.35 | sarge | cahoot : what should i change |
| 12:03.38 | Shadowcat | !based on debian |
| 12:03.38 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 12:03.49 | cahoot | sarge: relevant support for chipset |
| 12:03.51 | liable | why the fuck would a dist-upgrade hold packages, that an upgrade will then install? |
| 12:03.52 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: mplayer isn't in debian, either. |
| 12:03.59 | Shadowcat | if you run debian, you get help from us, if you don't, too bad |
| 12:03.59 | Guerrrrin | liable: funky. |
| 12:04.13 | liable | indeed.. |
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| 12:04.31 | hansi_xp | would it hurt to help out a fellow human being? |
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| 12:04.32 | cahoot | sarge: ide chipset |
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| 12:04.36 | valdyn | wow, hansi_xp still at it, did you use google yet? |
| 12:04.42 | ircops | I run debian, and I don't get help from you mofos... hehe j/k |
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| 12:04.45 | norskfjord | which file do I edit to change my hostname? |
| 12:04.50 | [TACO] | Guerrrrin: nvm, I will try ubc |
| 12:04.59 | asg | hansi_xp: /msg dpkg mplayer. That's your debian answer. If it doesn't work whine to Ubuntu. |
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| 12:05.08 | hansi_xp | i have been asg. |
| 12:05.12 | ircops | NooooOOoOoOOooooo |
| 12:05.17 | jm_ | so continue whining there, not here |
| 12:05.19 | sarge | cahoot : generic default ide chipset support is the only option i can see and its enabled |
| 12:05.19 | sep | hansi_xp, add marilatt's sources to your sources list, aptitude install mplayer-[your arch] and pwehaps w32codecs also. it's not that hard. |
| 12:05.22 | msn | Guerrrrin: I did read the whole manual but they don't mention password generation anywhere I thinkg I would do another go over |
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| 12:05.36 | Shadowcat | ircops: hah |
| 12:05.41 | hansi_xp | sep, i think i got all the libaries. |
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| 12:05.49 | Shadowcat | christ |
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| 12:05.51 | sep | hansi_xp, ofcouse my only knowledge to ubuntu is limited to seeing a cd on the front of a magazine... |
| 12:06.00 | norskfjord | which file do I edit to change my hostname??? |
| 12:06.01 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: don't tell us. We don't care. |
| 12:06.02 | cahoot | sarge: you need look harder ;) |
| 12:06.04 | Shadowcat | it takes less than 10 min to compile mplayer from scratch |
| 12:06.06 | Guerrrrin | norskfjord: /etc/hostname |
| 12:06.09 | Guerrrrin | bizarrely |
| 12:06.11 | sep | hansi_xp, what libraries? i just aptitude install and it grabs all dependencies |
| 12:06.23 | Shadowcat | Guerrrrin: damn I thought it was /etc/init.d/rcS |
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| 12:06.28 | Shadowcat | </sarcasm> |
| 12:06.30 | Guerrrrin | Shadowcat: really? my p2-233 takes substantially longer. |
| 12:06.31 | sep | norskfjord, also check /etc/hosts and /etc/mailname |
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| 12:06.44 | hansi_xp | sep: i do have all the dependencies. i just want to know exactly what audio codec works with dvds on your computer |
| 12:06.48 | sarge | cahoot : im looking in device drivers / atapi ,ata support |
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| 12:07.01 | ircops | har har |
| 12:07.01 | Shadowcat | hansi_xp: go read the mplayer documentation |
| 12:07.06 | Shadowcat | that's definately #mplayer |
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| 12:07.25 | hansi_xp | Shadowcat i did read the mplayer documentation |
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| 12:07.28 | Shadowcat | doubtful |
| 12:07.32 | Shadowcat | then you'd know what did what |
| 12:07.37 | Ether_Man | hansi_xp: Your best shot of help for mplayer IS mplayer.. taken that we wont help if you dont compile from source but mplayer should be compiled from source anyway so.. |
| 12:07.41 | sep | hansi_xp, i have no idea what codecs work or not, mplayer playes everything i throw at it |
| 12:07.44 | hansi_xp | ask me a mplayer question and i'll answer it |
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| 12:08.00 | ircops | except the one you're asking us |
| 12:08.02 | ircops | hehehe |
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| 12:08.11 | hansi_xp | sep: mplayer only works for me if i go mplayer -ao esd, but that doesn't work for dvds |
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| 12:08.22 | azeem | hansi_xp: so use totem for dvds |
| 12:08.26 | ircops | hansi_xp: what about alsa? |
| 12:08.30 | Shadowcat | that's a problem with the ubuntu esd sound server then |
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| 12:08.39 | Shadowcat | which AGAIN isn't our problem |
| 12:08.42 | Shadowcat | next! |
| 12:08.42 | sep | hansi_xp, i have one strange file where the audio looses 10 seconds compared to the video every minute, if i skip back or forth, it's synced , but loose sync constantly, how do i fix ? |
| 12:08.43 | ircops | right ;) |
| 12:09.00 | Ether_Man | hans0lo: So give something other to go by.. It's not like mplayer doesnt give you a very good log of everything it does.. |
| 12:09.01 | hansi_xp | ircops: crashes with alsa. signal 11 |
| 12:09.20 | ircops | *shrug* |
| 12:09.29 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: you haven't been alive long enough to read ALL the mplayer documentation |
| 12:09.29 | Shadowcat | Ether_Man: you're implying that he even knows how to fetch that |
| 12:09.41 | fireba11 | Guerrrrin: lol |
| 12:09.47 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: WE DO NOT CARE |
| 12:09.49 | hansi_xp | sep: i would say it is something wrong with the actual file. i had that same problem when i downloaded a movie |
| 12:09.52 | ircops | !tell hansi_xp about xine |
| 12:09.55 | Ether_Man | Shadowcat: Erm.. It basicly throws it at you if you just start from CLI.. |
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| 12:10.07 | Shadowcat | Ether_Man: I know |
| 12:10.07 | hansi_xp | Guerrrin: geez your a friendly dude aren't ya? |
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| 12:10.09 | valdyn | considering that there is a fucking mplayer package in ubuntu this discussion seems quite uh, useless? |
| 12:10.11 | sep | one of the files that play ok in mediaplayer (strangely enoughf) |
| 12:10.12 | Shadowcat | :^) |
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| 12:10.22 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: this is two kinds of offtopic: 1) mplayer is not in debian 2) YOU ARE NOT USING DEBIAN |
| 12:10.31 | ircops | haha |
| 12:10.31 | Shadowcat | hansi_xp: we're always this friendly when you're not using debian |
| 12:10.37 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: so please, kindly, fuck off or shut up. |
| 12:11.12 | Guerrrrin | hansi_xp: i can't make it any clearer. People have been trying to tell you gently for HOURS. |
| 12:11.12 | hansi_xp | thanks Guerrrin. |
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| 12:11.29 | hansi_xp | okay. thanks dude. don't cry anymore for me argentina. |
| 12:11.37 | ircops | wow, what an ass |
| 12:11.44 | Shadowcat | more like a clueless idiot |
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| 12:11.50 | ircops | heh |
| 12:11.58 | valdyn | !esd |
| 12:11.58 | dpkg | well, esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 12:12.00 | Ether_Man | sep: Actually I have an idea on that.. enable softseek.. It fixed my problem with the exact same symptoms so.. or rather.. it erased the symptoms.. Still dont know what the actual error was ^_^ |
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| 12:12.06 | liable | poor bastard.. |
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| 12:12.37 | sarge | cahoot : does it come under the pci ide chipset support |
| 12:12.43 | floyd | why is this happening on boot? ls: error while loading shared libraries: libldap.so.2 |
| 12:13.04 | valdyn | floyd: some program being run that requires that library isnt finding it |
| 12:13.10 | fireba11 | floyd: got any more info on that ?? |
| 12:13.11 | smhar | ok.. I finished installing a new kernel using apt-get install but after rebooting I recieved an error and debian wanted me to modify my x config file.. could this be because I have a nvidia driver.. do I have to go through the configuration of it againfor the new kernel |
| 12:13.12 | liable | floyd: more info.. |
| 12:13.22 | cahoot | sarge: I have no kernel src on this box - my memory isn't sufficiently clear - sorry |
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| 12:13.36 | valdyn | floyd: well, your linker isnt finding it which some program is 'asking' it for |
| 12:13.37 | possie | how can i find al files created on 6 sept 2005 with find? |
| 12:13.39 | Shadowcat | smhar: no you have to recompile the nvidia module |
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| 12:13.50 | Shadowcat | possie: you can't |
| 12:13.52 | floyd | yeah something in the boot script it horked |
| 12:13.57 | joris | is there something wrong with security.debian.org? |
| 12:14.02 | Shadowcat | as the linux fs doesn't store a "created" tag |
| 12:14.03 | Guerrrrin | !tell smhar about nvidia one loner |
| 12:14.07 | Guerrrrin | !tell smhar about nvidia one liner |
| 12:14.12 | Shadowcat | it stores a modified tag |
| 12:14.13 | liable | heh |
| 12:14.16 | valdyn | floyd: more like a broken debian package than a bootscript fuckup |
| 12:14.17 | sgeigerbot | joris: Make your question a little more specific, and perhaps then someone here will answer. |
| 12:14.20 | sarge | cahoot : i didnt find any other option so i m compiling with that |
| 12:14.21 | boguh | how can i start aterm with transparency? |
| 12:14.22 | Shadowcat | so you can find all files modified on that day |
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| 12:14.23 | cahoot | sarge: but IIRC it's right below the generic IDE choice |
| 12:14.24 | Shadowcat | but that's about it |
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| 12:14.41 | floyd | Failed to mount /selinux/: No such file or directory |
| 12:14.44 | possie | Shadowcat, okee and how about last changed? |
| 12:14.52 | floyd | INIT: version 2.86 booting |
| 12:14.56 | valdyn | floyd: checked the bts? |
| 12:14.56 | hid3 | How can I find out how many file descriptors are used at the moment on my system? |
| 12:15.01 | Guerrrrin | !tell floyd about warnings |
| 12:15.02 | floyd | LSorense: error while loading... |
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| 12:15.04 | joris | security.debian.org is extremely slow for me, tested on multiple hosts and both both http and ftp |
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| 12:15.09 | sarge | cahoot : im using 2.6.13 and i cant find it somehow :-( |
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| 12:15.23 | liable | joris: theres problems atm with it |
| 12:15.52 | valdyn | joris: not just for you |
| 12:15.52 | floyd | i have checked bts and found that selinux is all messed up |
| 12:15.52 | joris | ok, thanks |
| 12:15.52 | liable | bob2: still awake? |
| 12:15.52 | Guerrrrin | hid3: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr |
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| 12:16.06 | possie | Shadowcat, cause i want to find a file that was modified on 22 aug 2004 (a while ago), on my fs |
| 12:16.07 | valdyn | floyd: so you could a) not use sid or b) fix it or c) ignore it |
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| 12:16.29 | floyd | valdyn: yeah working on option b) fix it |
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| 12:17.17 | valdyn | !tell Ghworg -about away |
| 12:17.19 | jason | my /etc/hosts doesn't appear to be used ... if i add 127.0.0.1 www.local, i can't resolve that host with nslookup. any idea? |
| 12:17.20 | joris | possie: find -mtime might help you further |
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| 12:17.34 | valdyn | jason: man nslookup |
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| 12:17.53 | joris | jason: often it's /etc/host.conf ( |
| 12:17.54 | joris | order hosts,bind) |
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| 12:18.17 | possie | joris, then means i have to calculated how many days ago 22 aug 2004 is, this is a bit of a hassel |
| 12:18.17 | domidebian | hi ... is http://security.debian.org down ? |
| 12:18.30 | liable | domidebian: sort of.. |
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| 12:18.34 | valdyn | jason: nslookup quieries domain name servers, /etc/hosts would have to be used by your domain name server to 'be used' by nslookup |
| 12:18.52 | joris | possie: use a spreadsheet or something :) |
| 12:19.07 | Guerrrrin | domidebian: yes. |
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| 12:19.29 | possie | joris, yeah right, load al the ctimes values of all files on my fs |
| 12:19.32 | domidebian | Guerrrrin, ah thx ... then its not a problem in my subnet :) |
| 12:19.36 | jason | joris: my nsswitch.conf has: "hosts: files dns" |
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| 12:19.44 | p0 | Hello ! Have anyone tried to install oracle client? |
| 12:19.59 | jason | joris: my |
| 12:20.12 | azeem | p0: "anyone" is unspecific |
| 12:20.18 | azeem | as is your question |
| 12:20.24 | jason | joris: my host.conf has "order hosts,bind" |
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| 12:20.45 | ircops | Look at this skank in ##linux: "<[Brain]work> ive had more issues with debian's security than any other" |
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| 12:20.51 | p0 | azeem: Have you tried ? |
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| 12:21.18 | reano | #flood?! eh?! |
| 12:21.24 | Guerrrrin | !anyone use oracle client |
| 12:21.25 | dpkg | No, no one uses oracle client, not even the people who use it. |
| 12:21.28 | reano | i dislike this channel |
| 12:21.30 | Guerrrrin | p0: ^^^ |
| 12:21.33 | valdyn | jason: try 'ping www.local' |
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| 12:21.45 | reano | ATTN : internet. I dislike you |
| 12:21.57 | azeem | p0: no |
| 12:22.02 | nkuttler | reano: hm, so what? |
| 12:22.03 | reano | what's a debian anyway? |
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| 12:22.12 | reano | is it like a red hat or a gnome? |
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| 12:22.16 | liable | reano: please just /part |
| 12:22.16 | nkuttler | reano: stop trolling |
| 12:22.19 | reano | because i hate those? |
| 12:22.20 | Guerrrrin | ircops: why is he a skank? He's talking about his own experience. |
| 12:22.21 | jason | valdyn: ping works.... |
| 12:22.23 | nkuttler | reano: google is your friend |
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| 12:22.34 | reano | google is not my friend |
| 12:22.35 | azeem | reano: please read www.debian.org |
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| 12:22.39 | Guerrrrin | ircops: i mean, he might be utterly useless, but still... |
| 12:22.40 | p0 | Guerrrrin: What does it means "^^^"? |
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| 12:22.46 | Guerrrrin | p0: see above |
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| 12:23.00 | valdyn | jason: host.conf has nothing to do with your nameserver, nslookup _only_ queries your nameserver, your nameserver knows nothing about /etc/hosts |
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| 12:23.11 | ircops | Guerrrrin: okay, maybe not a skank, but in MY experience, people that say things like that are usually skanks. |
| 12:23.12 | ircops | hehe |
| 12:23.23 | azeem | p0: if you need help/counceling with Oracle, I suggest professional support |
| 12:23.41 | p0 | Guerrrrin: Joined few minutes ago ... |
| 12:23.46 | valdyn | jason: sooo.. nslookup is test nameservers, not to test if certain names can be resolved |
| 12:23.49 | reano | so debian is WORSE than red hat? gawd! |
| 12:23.54 | Guerrrrin | p0: 21:20:53 < dpkg> No, no one uses oracle client, not even the people who use it. |
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| 12:23.54 | reano | i will gladly part |
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| 12:24.07 | liable | reano: indeed, may as well move on.. |
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| 12:24.11 | jason | valdyn: okay. thanks. I thought I was going crazy, but that makes sense. |
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| 12:24.37 | valdyn | jason: now there is nameserver(s) that will use /etc/hosts but that's a different topic.. |
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| 12:25.31 | p0 | Guerrrrin: How then i should connect ? |
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| 12:25.41 | jason | last one... I'm inside a corp network. There is only one proxy they allow us to use to get onto the internet. apt-get doesn't resolve anything. I exported http_proxy and ftp_proxy with the proper proxy host. But i can't do updates. Is there something else I should be setting? |
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| 12:25.45 | ircops | what is with all the freakin' numbnuts today? |
| 12:25.49 | RainbowW | what's the keyword in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to disable password-based authentication completely? |
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| 12:25.58 | Guerrrrin | p0: how the fuck should I know? |
| 12:25.58 | nvz | ircops: its still permasunday |
| 12:26.05 | ircops | heh |
| 12:26.10 | valdyn | jason: hmm, man sources.list, i think apt-get might use a proxy set there |
| 12:26.11 | Guerrrrin | RainbowW: man sshd_config |
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| 12:26.43 | nvz | well I setup two appointments for interviews this afternoon.. maybe I can get myself a full-time J-O-B |
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| 12:26.53 | ircops | nvz: I hope this isn't an indicator of my work day... 8:30a and here comes a full day of tech support |
| 12:26.56 | p0 | dpkg: What you mean "No, no one uses oracle client" ? |
| 12:26.59 | valdyn | jason: ah, nm, it will use the environment variable too |
| 12:27.03 | [TACO] | ok, so WDC tool DLGDIAG says that the hard disk returned no errors. Thats good news |
| 12:27.19 | Guerrrrin | p0: he means NOBODY USES IT |
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| 12:27.21 | liable | !love p0 |
| 12:27.23 | nvz | ircops: heh, what kind of support do you do? are you at work now? |
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| 12:27.31 | liable | p0: its a bot.. |
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| 12:27.49 | valdyn | jason: 'echo $http_proxy' |
| 12:27.55 | p0 | liable: no |
| 12:27.59 | ircops | nvz: yeah at work now... I'm a point-of-sales administrator for a chain of retail eyewear and eye exam offices |
| 12:28.12 | liable | p0: um, yeah, sorry.. |
| 12:28.15 | ircops | you can't get any more stupid than salespeople |
| 12:28.15 | jason | root@dv1000:~# echo $http_proxy |
| 12:28.15 | jason | tpaproxy.verizon.com |
| 12:28.16 | ircops | hehe |
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| 12:28.31 | azeem | p0: you can assume that nobody uses Oracle here. If you have a specific question, you can ask that, and somebody who knows might answer |
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| 12:28.34 | Ether_Man | p0: dpkg is a bot... quite talkative.. but still only a bot.. |
| 12:28.46 | nvz | ircops: hah. sounds like fun. I wasnt aware POS's needed administration.. but I guess they do |
| 12:28.51 | valdyn | jason: ok, thats fucked, 'export http_proxy=http://tpaproxy.verizon.com:portnumber/' |
| 12:29.02 | p0 | Ether_Man: :) |
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| 12:29.21 | jm_ | p0: yes, there is someone who has installed Oracle client |
| 12:29.22 | RainbowW | Guerrrrin: okay so according to the man, the command is PasswordAuthentication yes. Mine is set to no, but it still permits login. |
| 12:29.31 | Guerrrrin | RainbowW: did you restart? |
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| 12:29.38 | RainbowW | Guerrrrin: Yes. |
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| 12:29.44 | ircops | nvz: this POS does... it's basically served from linux (dunno what distro), and client machines use a winblows program called teraterm to ssh into it... it's menu-driven and SUCKS ASS |
| 12:29.44 | p0 | jm_: How ? |
| 12:29.47 | jason | valdyn: you're my hero. Thanks a lot :) that appears to have fixed it. |
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| 12:29.52 | jm_ | p0: by using Oracle installer |
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| 12:29.59 | cahoot | RainbowW: see if disabling UsePAM matters |
| 12:30.02 | Guerrrrin | RainbowW: no idea, then. |
| 12:30.06 | p0 | jm_: Which one |
| 12:30.08 | valdyn | jason: your ftp_proxy environment variable should have identical content most likely |
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| 12:30.15 | azeem | p0: did you try to google for "oracle debian" or something? |
| 12:30.21 | jm_ | p0: the one you need |
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| 12:30.36 | nvz | ircops: yeah thats why I gave up on tech work and sit around here and do it for free. you got people who know nothing about pcs making the software people use. |
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| 12:30.51 | p0 | azeem: i've tried oracle ubuntu |
| 12:30.55 | RainbowW | Guerrrrin: bingo. thanks. |
| 12:31.08 | Guerrrrin | RainbowW: itym cahoot |
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| 12:31.46 | Guerrrrin | ircops: eew, teraterm |
| 12:31.48 | nvz | ircops: my dad was going nuts last night asking me what random error indicator icons meant last night on his laptop.. I told him I am not a hieroglyph tech.. I need solid info.. so I went into the router and found out the dhcp lease table was stale and deleted all the leases and it started working. |
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| 12:32.13 | liable | the ssh config had me fucked disabling this and that, just to stop password auth.. |
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| 12:32.30 | nvz | my dad gets real mad when I tell him I dont know all the time.. but he doesnt realize he's asking all the wrong questions. |
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| 12:33.20 | p0 | jm_: i have this one 10201_client_linux32.zip and it tells me , FAIL |
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| 12:33.49 | jm_ | p0: I used 8.1.7 installer without any problems |
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| 12:33.52 | Guerrrrin | p0: complain to oracle. this is not a debian problem. |
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| 12:34.28 | p0 | jm_: i need for 10g |
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| 12:34.50 | jm_ | p0: OK |
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| 12:35.08 | liable | bob2: mind adding a security bit, temporarily to /topic? |
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| 12:35.46 | p0 | jm_: it falis ... when ... Checking operating system version: must be redhat-3, SuSE-9, redhat-4, UnitedLinux-1.0, asianux-1 or asianux-2 |
| 12:35.57 | Guerrrrin | liable: so then we get to say "/topic" 100 times an hour, instead of "yes" |
| 12:36.01 | jm_ | p0: yes, they're picky bastards Oracle |
| 12:36.19 | liable | Guerrrrin: well ,was thinking smites.. :P |
| 12:36.23 | ircops | lol |
| 12:36.25 | Guerrrrin | p0: if you'd googled about oracle installation, you'd have found what you need to do |
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| 12:36.39 | jm_ | but there are workarounds, like Guerrrrin said |
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| 12:36.44 | ircops | nvz: I hate DHCP... not knowing where packets are coming from sucks |
| 12:36.46 | Guerrrrin | p0: which is create an /etc/redhat_version or something, with some version or other in it |
| 12:36.56 | jason | thanks again valdyn for the help. Got to get to work :) |
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| 12:37.39 | liable | Guerrrrin: anyway, the difference is? |
| 12:37.40 | ircops | Guerrrrin: yeah, I hate teraterm... I would switch all the standalone clients to linux, but I cant find a term that does ibm850 encoding, starts ssh automatically when the xterm or whatever term opens, and sets font to a fixed width terminus-like font, then exits when ssh exits |
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| 12:37.56 | jm_ | teraterm rocks |
| 12:38.02 | ircops | bah |
| 12:38.05 | ircops | :) |
| 12:38.08 | nvz | ircops: my support for windows clients is non-existant so I am not going to set them up static. I identify them by MAC ID on the router and look up which lease they belong to |
| 12:38.15 | ircops | jm_: it works, I guess |
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| 12:38.17 | Guerrrrin | i could never get teraterm to connect to my sshd, even with the ssh addon |
| 12:38.24 | jm_ | xterm -e ssh will do all that |
| 12:38.45 | Guerrrrin | cygwin has rxvt, which is sweet |
| 12:38.48 | ircops | jm_: tried that... not with the proper encoding tho... the ansi escape sequences don't render right |
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| 12:39.15 | jm_ | ircops: sure they do, xterm fully supports ANSI escape sequences |
| 12:39.16 | ircops | Guerrrrin: you have to use ttssh.exe not teraterm.exe |
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| 12:39.38 | ircops | jm_: I'll show you a screenshot if you don't believe me :) and I need a white on black color scheme |
| 12:39.49 | ircops | jm_: the line-drawing characters don't render right, either |
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| 12:40.06 | jm_ | ircops: you can achieve that by using proper vga font and enablign alternate character set |
| 12:40.09 | cy_` | hello |
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| 12:40.20 | cy_` | us.debian.org aint working no more ? |
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| 12:40.25 | ircops | jm_: I'm not an xterm pro... read the man pages, but still didn't figure out the whole command line |
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| 12:40.35 | Guerrrrin | cy_`: use another mirror |
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| 12:40.42 | cy_` | Guerrrrin, why-o-why |
| 12:40.44 | cy_` | :p |
| 12:40.48 | Guerrrrin | cy_`: upgrades |
| 12:40.50 | liable | security! |
| 12:40.59 | liable | topic! |
| 12:41.00 | cy_` | oukey |
| 12:41.08 | Guerrrrin | tekkah: yes, thanks. |
| 12:41.10 | Guerrrrin | bah |
| 12:41.13 | Guerrrrin | ircops: ^^^ |
| 12:41.16 | ircops | jm_: konsole renders right, but you have to manually set the options OR manually load a profile OR manually start ssh if you load a profile from the command line |
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| 12:43.09 | liable | bob2: cheers. |
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| 12:43.42 | Capkirk | need tool for changing password locally without typing it in twice like passwd wants? |
| 12:43.45 | Scalpel | I'm trying to setup a wlan connection on my laptop. iwconfig shows eth1 as a 802.11b device. ifup eth1 however sais it fails to bring it up. Where should I look for the error ? |
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| 12:44.00 | p0 | jm_: where can i find oraclient 8.1.7 ? |
| 12:44.02 | bob2 | Capkirk: why? |
| 12:44.03 | Scalpel | no clues in dmes of /var/log/syslog |
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| 12:44.20 | bob2 | Scalpel: ifup only works if /etc/network/interfaces mentions the interface in question |
| 12:44.21 | jm_ | p0: I don't know, I found it on the CDs |
| 12:44.22 | p0 | i cant find it at oracle.com |
| 12:45.14 | Vibes | Hi! Is there a problem with security.debian.org for apt (stable update) |
| 12:45.21 | nvz | I got a spot on my monitor where the glass was nicked and it looked like you said oracle.cum |
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| 12:45.37 | bob2 | Vibes: /topic! |
| 12:45.51 | Scalpel | bob2: it is there. auto eth1//iface eth1 inet dhcp//wireless_essid etc etc |
| 12:45.55 | Capkirk | bob2: whatever i found chpasswd :) |
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| 12:46.12 | Vibes | bob2: /topic is about testing :x |
| 12:46.21 | nvz | you are an idiot |
| 12:46.23 | bob2 | Vibes: " security.d.o is indeed slow " |
| 12:46.42 | bob2 | Scalpel: /etc/network/interfaces and the full error to #flood, I guess |
| 12:46.56 | Vibes | bob2: k, sorry, didn't see :\ |
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| 12:48.04 | solemnwarning | why do i almost always get this crap from marillat? |
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| 12:48.07 | Scalpel | bob2: the problem is that there is not to much error. Just "Failed" even in verbose mode |
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| 12:48.20 | solemnwarning | Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge/main Packages |
| 12:48.20 | solemnwarning | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:48.29 | solemnwarning | thats not even my ip ffs |
| 12:48.39 | jm_ | why are you asking us? it's not like we run the site |
| 12:48.45 | solemnwarning | 1 more thing |
| 12:48.54 | solemnwarning | is security.debian.org repo down? |
| 12:49.00 | Guerrrrin | solemnwarning: iplookup.flashfxp.com |
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| 12:49.00 | jm_ | read the topic |
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| 12:49.04 | Guerrrrin | solemnwarning: topic |
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| 12:49.13 | Guerrrrin | solemnwarning: marillat is not debian -> we don't care |
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| 12:49.15 | bob2 | solemnwarning: "host ftp.nerim.net" |
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| 12:49.32 | daft | how can i remove a readonly fs to readwrite |
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| 12:49.36 | daft | remount* |
| 12:49.37 | nvz | solemnwarning: try http://ftp.nerim.net/ |
| 12:49.39 | Guerrrrin | daft: depends |
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| 12:50.36 | daft | Guerrrrin: well it was kinda messed up and i could not unmount it :/ so unmount -r then fck and now i want it rw again |
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| 12:51.00 | Guerrrrin | daft: mount -o remount,rw |
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| 12:51.03 | Guerrrrin | daft: man mount |
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| 12:52.39 | ircops | heh... sounds like something my girlfriend would do when I'm not looking hehe |
| 12:52.39 | daft | Guerrrrin: ty |
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| 12:54.04 | nvz | vibrating controllers was a really dumb idea, it causes me joint pain. </random> |
| 12:54.08 | ricky_clarkson | ircops: Replace gf and press any key. |
| 12:54.15 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: Playstation? |
| 12:54.16 | nvz | heh |
| 12:54.25 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: yeah, but any one is just as bad |
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| 12:54.37 | jm_ | really? I like my force feedback steering wheel :) |
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| 12:55.21 | ircops | chmod 700 /dev/gf |
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| 12:55.30 | ircops | chown root /dev/gf |
| 12:55.33 | nvz | I dont like things that vibrate in general.. powered tools anything.. hurts my joints in my hands |
| 12:55.36 | ircops | heh |
| 12:55.37 | ricky_clarkson | I like my force feedback girlfriend. |
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| 12:55.42 | ricky_clarkson | Oops, wrong channel. |
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| 12:55.47 | ircops | hah |
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| 12:56.30 | ircops | jiggles when you press its buttons |
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| 12:56.33 | ircops | :D |
| 12:56.36 | BiBe | hi! i've a problem while installing debian. security.debian.org is not online. what can i do? is this true? |
| 12:56.45 | ircops | BiBe: topic |
| 12:56.51 | BiBe | ui.. |
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| 12:57.03 | net | hi |
| 12:57.08 | BiBe | how long is it offline? |
| 12:57.11 | jm_ | it's amazing how it always turns out there's little point in setting the topic |
| 12:57.14 | ricky_clarkson | It's slow. |
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| 12:57.17 | ircops | heh |
| 12:57.19 | Guerrrrin | BiBe: as long as it takes |
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| 12:57.23 | BiBe | ;) |
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| 12:57.44 | asmodaiii | back |
| 12:57.55 | ircops | *starts rumor* some hacker found a security hole in security.debian.org :D |
| 12:57.59 | ircops | hehe j/k |
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| 12:58.16 | Guerrrrin | ... |
| 12:58.16 | ricky_clarkson | BiBe: It will be offline until Bill Gates plugs the cable back in. |
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| 12:58.23 | nvz | ircops: you are worse than /. |
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| 12:58.31 | BiBe | okok... so there was onother problem: during downloading my first packages (~700mb) the screebn turned off and after a few minutes the hdd turned down. so i restarted the book and began again. what was that? |
| 12:58.48 | ricky_clarkson | BiBe: Sounds like ACPI or APM. |
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| 12:59.07 | BiBe | so what can i do? |
| 12:59.14 | ricky_clarkson | Disable it. |
| 12:59.18 | ircops | I hate power management... it doesn't even save that much power. :D |
| 12:59.21 | floyd | so I fix my issue, copied the files from /usr/lib to /lib |
| 12:59.34 | net | i have small question: in xinetd.conf i have set access_time = 8:00-10:00 and this no functional property, i have login all the time, why? |
| 12:59.38 | floyd | don't link coreutils outside of / |
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| 12:59.45 | floyd | big surprise |
| 12:59.49 | BiBe | but i couldn't turn it on again by pressing a kkey or so... |
| 12:59.49 | jm_ | ircdevil: really? so why do laptops run so much longer on batteries if it's enabled? |
| 12:59.51 | net | i have small question: in xinetd.conf i have set access_time = 8:00-10:00 and this no functional properLy, i have login all the time, why? |
| 12:59.53 | cahoot | BiBe: or join #debian in an other term - sure won't go to sleep then |
| 13:00.07 | nvz | BiBe: check your bios/cmos setup there may be power management features enabled in there. also turn off any virus detection or other strange features in there |
| 13:00.09 | jm_ | ircops: that one above was for you |
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| 13:00.22 | BiBe | ok, i'll try.. |
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| 13:00.31 | ircops | jm_: laptop? what the hell is that? |
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| 13:00.43 | net | i have small question: in xinetd.conf i have set access_time = 8:00-10:00 and this no functional properLy, i have login all the time, why? |
| 13:00.56 | ircops | *dradle, dradle* |
| 13:00.58 | Guerrrrin | net: you need to repeat at least once per second |
| 13:01.08 | shuning | why would /proc/bus/usb/devices be missing after upgrading to 2.6.11? |
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| 13:01.12 | Guerrrrin | net: otherwise nobody will pay any attention |
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| 13:01.30 | ToMMY2k | yeah you also need to type in CAPS so please can see your text above everyone elses |
| 13:01.31 | edhp | echo ? |
| 13:01.37 | BiBe | ok, i've turned off the "suspend timers" in BIOS and try it again. thx |
| 13:01.37 | ToMMY2k | s/please/people |
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| 13:01.52 | Guerrrrin | ToMMY2k: you're onto it. |
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| 13:02.14 | net | heheh, ok, sorry, but anybody know what is bad ? |
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| 13:02.16 | ToMMY2k | Guerrrrin: Im onto what? |
| 13:02.22 | edhp | hmmm strange ... why do I have I to ssh through 4 connections te be able to write on this chan ? from my desktop, I got: "14:55 -!- #debian Cannot send to channel" |
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| 13:02.39 | ToMMY2k | net: the devil is bad, from god's perspective :) |
| 13:03.09 | net | hehe, sorry for my english:) |
| 13:03.12 | edhp | and in this window, I can even see what is written on chan : one IRC to write, an other one to read ^^ |
| 13:03.27 | Guerrrrin | ToMMY2k: it. |
| 13:03.43 | BiBe | what is uhci? (can't be loaded...) |
| 13:03.47 | ToMMY2k | Guerrrrin:define 'it'. |
| 13:03.51 | edhp | echo ? |
| 13:03.57 | ricky_clarkson | ? |
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| 13:04.13 | saloxin | BiBe: usb controller |
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| 13:04.19 | edhp | !ping |
| 13:04.19 | dpkg | pong |
| 13:04.35 | Guerrrrin | ToMMY2k: it = the topic of discuccion; in this case, how best to get the attention of the channel. |
| 13:04.45 | ToMMY2k | Guerrrrin: ahhh, ok :) |
| 13:04.51 | Guerrrrin | ToMMY2k: on second thoughts, you're perhaps not so onto it after all. |
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| 13:05.02 | pngwn | heh |
| 13:05.04 | ToMMY2k | Guerrrrin: Im possibly out of 'it'. |
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| 13:05.15 | ricky_clarkson | IT sucks. |
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| 13:05.17 | BiBe | saloxin: thx |
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| 13:05.29 | ricky_clarkson | Fuck IT. |
| 13:05.35 | ToMMY2k | Guerrrrin: Or I may even have some of it from the users in here. |
| 13:05.49 | plb | ahoy mateys |
| 13:05.49 | tomislav | sf |
| 13:05.52 | shuning | can any one suggest why i do not have /proc/bus/usb/devices ? |
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| 13:06.17 | DoubleHP | echo ? |
| 13:06.17 | plb | talk like a pirate day woohoo! |
| 13:06.24 | ToMMY2k | shuning: did you upgrade your kernel without the support for usb? |
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| 13:06.44 | ricky_clarkson | Oi be a ferrmer oi be. |
| 13:06.45 | shuning | ToMMY2k, no because my usb mouse and storage still works |
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| 13:07.11 | DoubleHP | any one can read my lines ? |
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| 13:07.16 | ircops | DoubleHP: no |
| 13:07.29 | ricky_clarkson | DoubleHP: If I meet a one, I'll ask it. |
| 13:07.33 | plb | ln -s /dev/null /davey/jones/locker |
| 13:07.40 | DoubleHP | so ... |
| 13:07.49 | DoubleHP | why do I have I to ssh through 4 connections te be able to write on this chan ? from my desktop, I got: "14:55 -!- #debian Cannot send to channel" |
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| 13:07.57 | DoubleHP | and in this window, I can even see what is written on chan : one IRC to write, an other one to read ^^ |
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| 13:08.11 | ToMMY2k | shuning: did you upgrade your kernal at least? |
| 13:08.12 | jm_ | because wherever you came from matches one of the +q modes |
| 13:08.16 | jm_ | DoubleHP ^^^^^ |
| 13:08.20 | shuning | ToMMY2k, that i did yes. |
| 13:08.20 | ToMMY2k | or even upgrade your kernel? |
| 13:08.20 | Miguelzinho | any one using gmailfs from sarge? it doesnt login to my account anyway! |
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| 13:08.30 | ToMMY2k | from 2.4 to 2.6? |
| 13:08.38 | shuning | from 2.6.9 to 2.6.11 |
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| 13:08.55 | ircops | Miguelzinho: you're using your whole e-mail addy for uname righ? |
| 13:08.56 | ircops | right? |
| 13:08.59 | ricky_clarkson | DoubleHP: What is your other nick? |
| 13:09.00 | ToMMY2k | using an existing config from 2.6.9? |
| 13:09.01 | DoubleHP | jm_: hmmm are root +qed ? |
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| 13:09.10 | jm_ | DoubleHP: you can check for yourself |
| 13:09.11 | mops | hello! |
| 13:09.12 | DoubleHP | ricky_clarkson: dhp-ir ? |
| 13:09.14 | shuning | ToMMY2k, guilty as charged |
| 13:09.14 | Miguelzinho | ircops, yeah |
| 13:09.18 | mops | is security.debian.org down? |
| 13:09.18 | DoubleHP | ricky_clarkson: dhp-ur |
| 13:09.23 | ToMMY2k | is this a downloaded source kernel compile, or a kernel package? |
| 13:09.29 | ircops | Miguelzinho: *shrug* |
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| 13:09.32 | shuning | downloaded ToMMY2k |
| 13:09.54 | ricky_clarkson | Shit, there's 341 bans in #debian. |
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| 13:10.20 | Miguelzinho | ircops, any ideia? |
| 13:10.22 | ricky_clarkson | = 14:11:02 -!- 314 - #debian: ban %*!?=root@* [by sagan.freenode.net, 1032185 secs ago] |
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| 13:10.25 | Guerrrrin | Miguelzinho: topic |
| 13:10.28 | Guerrrrin | bah |
| 13:10.34 | Guerrrrin | laggins |
| 13:10.42 | ircops | Miguelzinho: no... could never get it to compile right... I just said fuck it. |
| 13:10.52 | ricky_clarkson | DoubleHP: Is that the one that matches you then? ;) |
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| 13:11.18 | ToMMY2k | shuning: Im not sure how to help you, I cant say I have ever had any issues with usb, partly cos I have never used it with linux |
| 13:11.30 | ToMMY2k | well that may actually be entirely really |
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| 13:11.37 | DoubleHP | ricky_clarkson: Guerrrrin jm_ problem is that using install disks, or broken computers (like runlevel 1, or unmoutable /home), it is impossible to access IRC without using root account .... |
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| 13:11.51 | ToMMY2k | but I feel your pain :) |
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| 13:12.06 | shuning | thats alright, i'll go through the whole kernel config thing again from scratch...' |
| 13:12.21 | ricky_clarkson | DoubleHP: You need to speak to the ops about it. |
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| 13:12.41 | ToMMY2k | why not use 2.6.13? |
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| 13:12.57 | mops | is there som mirror for security.debian.org?? |
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| 13:13.12 | shuning | ToMMY2k - well the source was just lying around |
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| 13:13.13 | cahoot | ToMMY2k: if so then 2.6.13.2 |
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| 13:13.19 | shuning | but sure, i might as well |
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| 13:13.22 | ToMMY2k | cahoot: yep |
| 13:13.33 | Guerrrrin | mops: no, that would rather defy the purpose of it being a centralised, trusted security repo. |
| 13:13.37 | ricky_clarkson | mops: Why do you urgently need updates? |
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| 13:13.55 | mops | ricky_clarkson: I'm only playing with my system |
| 13:13.58 | streuner | mops: read /topic |
| 13:14.03 | mops | and trying to compile some packages |
| 13:14.15 | mops | I can wait, I was only asking; ok, I'll read topic |
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| 13:14.46 | mops | how long is that server so slow? |
| 13:14.52 | DoubleHP | ricky_clarkson: Guerrrrin jm_ atm I need to do something like 100 successive fsck of my /home ... (magicrescue-1.1.4.tar.gz to be more precise ) |
| 13:14.56 | Guerrrrin | mops: as long as it needs to be |
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| 13:15.10 | ricky_clarkson | DoubleHP: Why are you telling us? |
| 13:15.19 | mops | Guerrrrin: I thought - WHEN it started to be slow |
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| 13:15.48 | DoubleHP | ricky_clarkson: I asked you if root were banned from here, if yes: Why, and how to turn around the bann ... |
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| 13:17.21 | fbi | DoubleHP: why the hell would you even _want_ to irc as root anyway. |
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| 13:18.14 | jm_ | DoubleHP: not really, some IRC client let you send a different username, which should work as long as you don't run ident |
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| 13:19.16 | DoubleHP | fbi: because I have NO WAY to use any other user on my desktop ... and that other computer are so far away I have about 10s lag, with broken output ... |
| 13:19.19 | northbayrep | hi, i'd like to install sun java.. |
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| 13:19.31 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 13:19.35 | northbayrep | i msg'd dpkg about it, but it told me to apt-get install a package that couldn't be found. |
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| 13:20.02 | jm_ | northbayrep: it also tells you to ask it about contrib/non-free |
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| 13:20.15 | nullvoid | how can I lock every user in my system only able to access one folder in their home folder. I am using vsftpd |
| 13:20.23 | debianised | Hi ! http://www.debian.org is down or is it just me ? |
| 13:20.36 | fbi | debianised: /topic |
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| 13:20.42 | debianised | same for security.debian.org it seems |
| 13:20.46 | jm_ | or suggests it anyway |
| 13:20.48 | debianised | oki, sorry |
| 13:20.56 | jm_ | nullvoid: by reading vsftpd docs |
| 13:21.17 | nullvoid | jm_: spesific page please, because I can't figure out |
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| 13:21.22 | abrotman | nullvoid: read the docs for your ftp server ... chroot |
| 13:21.24 | abrotman | debianised: try a country server |
| 13:21.25 | DoubleHP | nullvoid: use vservers, chroot their prompt, or chmod seriously the rest of the system, or use ulimits |
| 13:21.26 | abrotman | ie ... www.es.debian.org |
| 13:21.31 | nullvoid | ok |
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| 13:21.44 | jm_ | nullvoid: read its FAQ |
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| 13:22.36 | nullvoid | abrotman: I tried chroot, but it's more for anonymous login, what I want is that every user will have different ftp folder in their /home/<user>/ftp/ |
| 13:22.41 | debianised | abrotman, a "country" server for security ? security is mirrored ? |
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| 13:23.06 | nullvoid | abrotman: the <user> param is variable based on who login |
| 13:23.15 | DoubleHP | debianised: of course it is, but the mirrors are not officially secure. |
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| 13:23.42 | DoubleHP | debianised: please read the Debian policy about security mirrors |
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| 13:24.34 | debianised | humm |
| 13:24.50 | debianised | l)pht.com down, now debian.org.... tf.... |
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| 13:25.24 | Guerrrrin | debianised: the badgers are coming |
| 13:25.31 | Guerrrrin | lock up your plush toys |
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| 13:25.42 | abrotman | debianised: oh .. i'm not sure .. i was just referring to www.debian.org |
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| 13:26.25 | abrotman | nullvoid: and what you're asking is possible .. with proftpd .. (i don't use anonymous logins) .. you set thier shell to a non-true shell and then their $HOME to /home/<user>/ftp/ ./ or something like that |
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| 13:26.44 | jm_ | that's also easily doable with vsftpd |
| 13:26.47 | streuner | !tell DoubleH about root |
| 13:26.51 | Guerrrrin | trivially so |
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| 13:27.07 | jm_ | butu he refuses to read the docs so ... |
| 13:27.10 | jm_ | but* |
| 13:27.27 | Guerrrrin | so he's doomed to be stupid and ignorant for the rest of his born days |
| 13:27.27 | DoubleHP | streuner: how not to use root account when using rescue CD, inst CD, or runlevel 1 to fsck /home ? |
| 13:27.31 | Guerrrrin | how sad |
| 13:27.49 | abrotman | jm_: i just don't use vsftpd .. so i'm not sure |
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| 13:27.53 | Blacker47 | it's my fault, or is security.debian.org down? |
| 13:27.53 | Guerrrrin | DoubleHP: configure $irc_client to use a different username... it's not hard. |
| 13:27.59 | bob2 | Blacker47: /topic |
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| 13:28.16 | abrotman | Guerrrrin: arrrgh? |
| 13:28.45 | Guerrrrin | abrotman: this moighty poirrrate is off to his cabin aft |
| 13:28.55 | abrotman | Guerrrrin: got a wench? |
| 13:28.56 | abrotman | :) |
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| 13:29.05 | Guerrrrin | abrotman: aye, that I have |
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| 13:29.17 | abrotman | Guerrrrin: shiver her timbers! |
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| 13:29.39 | abrotman | DoubleH: you cannot IRC here if your username is root |
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| 13:29.41 | streuner | heh |
| 13:29.43 | Guerrrrin | and a worse pirate |
| 13:29.48 | abrotman | i wasn't trying! |
| 13:29.49 | streuner | haha |
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| 13:29.56 | DoubleHP | abrotman: how not to use root account when using rescue CD, inst CD, or runlevel 1 to fsck /home ? |
| 13:30.02 | Guerrrrin | DoubleHP: configure $irc_client to use a different username... it's not hard. |
| 13:30.15 | bob2 | man, I got i na lot of trouble at a pirate party |
| 13:30.16 | Guerrrrin | DoubleHP: is you being root impairing your ability to read? |
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| 13:30.28 | Guerrrrin | bob2: you went as the coast guard? |
| 13:30.29 | bob2 | not every busty lass in a puffy shirt is tryign to be a wench |
| 13:30.39 | Guerrrrin | ... |
| 13:30.42 | abrotman | heheh |
| 13:30.43 | DoubleHP | Guerrrrin: I am hunting in irssi options ... but cant find the one ... already altered $USER and $LOGNAME .... |
| 13:30.44 | bob2 | and some people get quite offended if you don't recognise them as a pirate |
| 13:31.00 | abrotman | did they have assless chaps? |
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| 13:31.23 | Guerrrrin | DoubleHP: user_name = "magpie"; |
| 13:31.28 | Guerrrrin | DoubleHP: for instance |
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| 13:31.54 | Guerrrrin | abrotman: it's not talk like a pornstar day |
| 13:32.01 | Guerrrrin | thank goodness |
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| 13:32.24 | abrotman | which .. would be amusing |
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| 13:32.47 | MrDerby01 | Hello all =) |
| 13:33.26 | MrDerby01 | I am a new user of debian, rather a new user to linux world itself.. |
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| 13:34.01 | nvz | !newb |
| 13:34.02 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
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| 13:34.13 | fireba11 | hehe |
| 13:34.16 | fireba11 | hi MrDerby01 |
| 13:34.21 | MrDerby01 | Hi Fireba11 |
| 13:34.25 | DoubleHP | abrotman: Guerrrrin I have exported $USERNAME and $USER_NAME ... not better |
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| 13:35.17 | MrDerby01 | My other system is still compiling the kernel.. I have a question about names. |
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| 13:35.24 | Miguelzinho | File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libgmail/__init__.py", line 281, in login |
| 13:35.25 | Miguelzinho | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.25 | Miguelzinho | libgmail.GmailLoginFailure |
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| 13:35.27 | abrotman | DoubleHP: wrong ... |
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| 13:36.12 | MrDerby01 | the kernel is named 2.6.8 smp but is the code the same for 2.6.8 anyway ? it's just the options the kernel is compiled with right ? |
| 13:36.24 | Gathond | MrDerby01: yes |
| 13:36.28 | MrDerby01 | kewl. |
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| 13:38.27 | DoubleHP | abrotman: I sware I did ... and just checked my history ... |
| 13:38.44 | abrotman | swear |
| 13:38.49 | abrotman | and that wasn't what guerin meant |
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| 13:39.57 | nvz | abrotman: sware is the same thing (past tense) |
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| 13:41.00 | jneves | anyone has slapd working for ldap authentication |
| 13:41.01 | jneves | ? |
| 13:41.03 | DoubleHP | nvz: I did not want to use past but present, so that abrotman was right about this |
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| 13:41.17 | MrDerby01 | about how long should a compile time be ? |
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| 13:42.04 | abrotman | nvz: do you think that's what he meant? :) |
| 13:42.13 | DoubleHP | nvz: smells good :) |
| 13:42.15 | nvz | MrDerby01: depends entirely on what you are compiling, and the system you are compiling it on. could be moments, could be hours |
| 13:42.23 | nvz | DoubleHP: its probably the peas and carrots |
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| 13:43.24 | MrDerby01 | NVZ.. I may have kept a lot of options marked ha.. damn.. |
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| 13:43.52 | DoubleHP | smells KB |
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| 13:46.33 | twirl83 | I have a repair cd called repairlix.. I want to delete the SAM file on windows, I boot and mount the ntfs partition as rw/ but I cant write or modify anything on the partition giving me an error "permission denied" |
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| 13:46.46 | twirl83 | and when i do: "chroot /mountedfolder" I get cannt execute /bin/bash , no such file or directory.. although it exists |
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| 13:47.11 | fbi | twirl83: you won't be writing much to ntfs. |
| 13:47.13 | Gathond | twirl83: does it exist within /mountedfolder/bin/bash? |
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| 13:47.42 | jm_ | well chroot-ing to a NTFS partition sounds pretty stupid |
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| 13:47.48 | twirl83 | Gathond, the mounted folder is the ntfs partition |
| 13:47.58 | twirl83 | jm_ I just read it somewhere |
| 13:48.08 | Gathond | twirl83: yes, and does bin/bash exist there? |
| 13:48.18 | Miguelzinho | anyone with problems to log into gmail using gmailfs? |
| 13:48.18 | twirl83 | Gathond, yup |
| 13:48.37 | bob2 | twirl83: no debian kernel is going to let you write to ntfs, sorry |
| 13:48.45 | Gathond | twirl83: I wont even ask why you have a bin/bash on an ntfs partition |
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| 13:48.53 | twirl83 | jm_ any idea why I get "permission denied" although the partition is rw |
| 13:49.09 | Gathond | twirl83: because the kernel does not support writing to it |
| 13:49.09 | twirl83 | Gathond I dont have /bin/bash on the ntfs partion |
| 13:49.11 | Noid | i have a keyboard without F keys, i am trying to map some other keys it has to work as the F keys, they have of course different keycodes, and i can't seem to get it working with xmodmap, what alternatives do i have? |
| 13:49.17 | DoubleHP | Gathond: I would: didnt he install Cygwin ? |
| 13:49.25 | jm_ | twirl83: no, I used one of the mini images that let you change the password once and it worked |
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| 13:49.46 | Gathond | twirl83: then thats why you cant find it, chroot /mountedfolder makes that folder be root for now, so /bin/bash after that is really /mountedfolder/bin/bash |
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| 13:50.03 | fireba11 | Noid: uhm .. buy a working keyboard ? they are pretty cheap you know .. |
| 13:50.13 | twirl83 | aah ok |
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| 13:50.28 | Gathond | twirl83: the whole point in a chroot:) to limit access to within it |
| 13:50.50 | Noid | fireba11: not an option, there's literally thousands of these keyboards and we have to sell them |
| 13:50.51 | twirl83 | ah ok.. sorry just new to linux.. I want to reset my password on the laptop |
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| 13:51.33 | twirl83 | Gathond if I do "touch filenmae" I get permission denied |
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| 13:51.49 | fireba11 | Noid: what ? you got thousands of keyboards without an "f" key ? wtf ? |
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| 13:51.56 | Gathond | twirl83: on the ntfs partition? probably, you cant normally write to them |
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| 13:52.04 | Gathond | twirl83: as in you cant change anything really |
| 13:52.17 | fbi | as in he's been told that two times already. |
| 13:52.20 | twirl83 | but it is mounted as rw |
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| 13:52.37 | Gathond | twirl83: matters notthing, its the driver that does not support it |
| 13:52.42 | DoubleHP | Gathond: opposite way : /mountfol/bin becomes /bin |
| 13:52.49 | Gathond | twirl83: so it just returns that error |
| 13:52.51 | fbi | twirl83: currently, the only way i know to write to ntfs under linux is by using captive, and even that is sketchy |
| 13:52.55 | Noid | fireba11: long story, they belong to computers called "dot.station". My company sells them |
| 13:53.00 | DoubleHP | twirl83: reboot: add to boot loader prompt: init=/bin/bash, then use: mount -o remount,rw /dev/hd??? / ; passwd ; mount -o remount'ro /, then sync umount , reboot |
| 13:53.06 | Gathond | doubleH, that was the way I meant it |
| 13:53.09 | Eulex | twirl83, you *shouldn't* even attempt to write to it, you may corrupt the fs if you're not careful |
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| 13:53.18 | Gathond | DoubleHP: anyway |
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| 13:53.52 | sphinxer | tag |
| 13:53.56 | Gathond | DoubleHP: depends on what way you see it:) once in the chroot /bin is refers to /something/bin (in the non chrooted filesystem anyway:)) |
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| 13:54.00 | fireba11 | Noid: ah .. so some sort of special keyboard and you are trying to figure out how to add key-combos to access the functions usually provided by f-keys .. right ? |
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| 13:54.09 | sphinxer | hello |
| 13:54.14 | MrDerby01 | the kernel I compiled is not on the list for GRUB, how can I do this ? so that I can boot it ? |
| 13:54.22 | MrDerby01 | I did not make install already.. |
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| 13:54.46 | DoubleHP | MrDerby01: vim /boot/grub/menu.lst ... or more generally: lynx www.google.com |
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| 13:55.11 | Eulex | MrDerby01, learn to compile a kernel the debian way... that way it'll be automatically added |
| 13:55.15 | cheal | MrDerby01: how did you install it? |
| 13:55.18 | Noid | fireba11: something like that, i just need some keys it has to work as Fs, for all intents and purposes.. it can be done via hardware, resoldering and everything, but cost is an issue here |
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| 13:55.46 | petemc | twirl83: there is a small cd image you can download to change nt passwords |
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| 13:55.58 | MrDerby01 | I used the Make install after the make modules_install |
| 13:56.15 | ricky_clarkson | Is there any way to take a window and just make it appear bigger? |
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| 13:56.22 | MrDerby01 | Eulex, thank you =) |
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| 13:56.51 | twirl83 | [ryr |
| 13:56.57 | twirl83 | oops |
| 13:57.03 | DoubleHP | twirl83: you could also read the SAM file, crack it to recover the old password, or put there a new one, what is an NT specific procedure, described on all MS-Windows sites, and which is NOT Linux specific ... |
| 13:57.13 | Eulex | !tell MrDerby01 about kp |
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| 13:57.21 | MrDerby01 | hmm ? |
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| 13:57.27 | fireba11 | Noid: you should be able to do that with remapping some keys of the default layout .. you could also set key combinations there i think |
| 13:57.35 | DoubleHP | MrDerby01: ! |
| 13:57.47 | twirl83 | petemc, do you know any good one? I tried 2 but didnt work well. |
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| 13:58.07 | twirl83 | DoubleHP I just want to delete the sam file |
| 13:58.18 | petemc | twirl83: http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html |
| 13:58.23 | greycat | ... why is this person asking windows questions here? |
| 13:58.26 | DoubleHP | twirl83: use any rescue Windows disc for that ... |
| 13:58.32 | Eulex | twirl83, that is highly OT |
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| 13:59.04 | ke6isf | ARRRRR! |
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| 14:00.23 | mikael_ | hello |
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| 14:01.09 | mikael_ | when I type this command # mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.13 /lib/modules/2.6.13.2/ I have an error find: /lib/modules/2.6.13.2/kernel/drivers/ide:No such file or directory |
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| 14:01.16 | mikael_ | any hint ? |
| 14:01.22 | greycat | use a debian kernel image |
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| 14:01.33 | bob2 | or, if you build your own kernel, don't use an initrd |
| 14:01.45 | norskfjord | Hi, I have installed the minimal install, how do I setup my adsl? |
| 14:01.46 | greycat | or if you DO build your own image, and you DO need an initrd, use the --initrd flag. |
| 14:01.49 | mikael_ | greycat I tryed the debian kernel-source and now vanilla |
| 14:01.58 | greycat | mikael_: I did not say kernel-source. |
| 14:02.11 | bob2 | norskfjord: sudo pppoeconf |
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| 14:02.23 | mikael_ | greycat yes but for some reason I'd like to compile the kernel myself |
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| 14:02.33 | greycat | mikael_: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 14:02.39 | bob2 | mikael_: then don't use an initrd |
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| 14:03.10 | mikael_ | bob2 if I don't use it it will work ? |
| 14:03.27 | nvz | mikael_: depends on if you properly configure the kernel or not |
| 14:04.08 | mikael_ | nvz my configuration works I think |
| 14:04.10 | bob2 | this sounds like a "you have no need to build your own kernel" sort of conversation |
| 14:04.22 | mikael_ | nvz I just took my old config file |
| 14:04.25 | nvz | initrd is used in debian kernels to allow them to remain flexible as possible. preloading essential modules for booting. |
| 14:04.25 | greycat | it sounds like I need to *plonk* the cretin already. |
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| 14:05.27 | Eulex | bob2, I agree. mikael_, what's your reason for compiling your own kernel? |
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| 14:05.47 | nvz | mikael_: your debian kernels config will not work without initrd because it will not have the essential modules statically compiled, because it is a config for a kernel that uses initrd |
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| 14:06.34 | nvz | mikael_: you would need to modify it to not use initrd, and to statically compile modules for your drive controller and filesystem for your root |
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| 14:07.03 | mikael_ | Eulex I have nvidia drivers and I want to test static or module for AGP support |
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| 14:07.42 | mikael_ | and before i used to do mkinitrd and it worked |
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| 14:07.52 | mikael_ | i don't know why this time it doesn't |
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| 14:08.26 | mikael_ | nvz yes i have initrd in my kernel configuration |
| 14:08.38 | BiBe | hi, i've cancled my xserver configuration to quickly. how can i resume it unless confuguring manually in config file? |
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| 14:09.18 | fbi | BiBe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:09.20 | snail | BiBe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:09.26 | snail | fbi: snap |
| 14:09.26 | fireba11 | hehe |
| 14:09.27 | greycat | is it wrong that I can't even be bothered to summon the energy to *care* about responding to the 1 billion trillionth iteration of "how do I configure X" ? |
| 14:09.28 | fbi | or xserver-xorg |
| 14:09.30 | nvz | you people are quick to assume |
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| 14:10.19 | BiBe | fbi: thx |
| 14:10.29 | nvz | greycat: its even more annoying now that you have to guess which X they are talking about most of the time |
| 14:10.33 | snail | greycat: it's a sign that you need to move away from the front line to either (a) work on an auto-answer bot or (b) just live in the less newbie dense channels |
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| 14:10.53 | greycat | !faq BiBe |
| 14:10.54 | dpkg | BiBe: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 14:11.37 | BiBe | oh, thx |
| 14:11.41 | paxed | reinstalling from latest stable cd, i get timeout from security.debian.org:80 when trying to get the security updates. is this normal? |
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| 14:11.53 | greycat | paxed: not per se, but see /topic |
| 14:12.04 | paxed | greycat: oh. ahh, ok. |
| 14:12.19 | AnyFile | Shall I get all the 12 CD to install Debian? |
| 14:12.32 | greycat | AnyFile: only if you're an idiot. |
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| 14:12.33 | nvz | there was never 12 cds of debian |
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| 14:12.47 | Ronin | AnyFile: no you only need one |
| 14:12.53 | snail | AnyFile: only if you're installing on machines without a network connection |
| 14:12.58 | greycat | woody's 7, and sarge is 14. god only knows where he got the number 12. |
| 14:13.00 | nvz | potato was like 3, woody was 7, sarge is 14 |
| 14:13.03 | fireba11 | AnyFile: i suggest the netinstall CD |
| 14:13.07 | RichiH | greycat: how's your perl? |
| 14:13.14 | AnyFile | and shall I get the rest from internet cnnection during install? |
| 14:13.18 | greycat | RichiH: I just added a bunch of stuff to greybot. |
| 14:13.19 | snail | AnyFile: machines with a netwrok connection just need the net installer and load everything else from the net |
| 14:13.32 | greycat | RichiH: wooledge.org/~greg/greybot.pl |
| 14:13.38 | snail | AnyFile: slow dialups also benifit from the CDs. |
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| 14:14.03 | snail | if you have suitable hardware use DVDs instead, less swapping |
| 14:14.04 | RichiH | greycat: do you know about perl, threads & dbi? |
| 14:14.09 | nvz | greycat: is that an irssi script? |
| 14:14.11 | greycat | RichiH: no |
| 14:14.11 | RichiH | when i try to create a dbh _within_ a thread, it fails for the second and all following threads. it tells me db handle 1 is already taken. this is, of course, because the other thread already openened handle 1. how can i force DBI to use a new handle even though it somehow thinks it does not need to use a larger number? -- i do _not_ share db handles between threads |
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| 14:14.22 | RichiH | ^ |
| 14:14.23 | fbi | what do you guys think would cause audio to desynch from video when ripping, transcoding and splitting with dvd::rip |
| 14:14.30 | AnyFile | Are Cd separate in a logical way (such as 1-4 for binary, 5-9 for sourc, 10 extension A, 11 extension B and so on)? |
| 14:14.32 | mops | I did - apt-get build-dep <package-name>; edited debian/rules and then did dpkg-buildpackage and built custom <packagename> |
| 14:14.37 | RichiH | ah, pity |
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| 14:14.42 | fbi | could it be because i am transcoding and splitting in the same pass? |
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| 14:14.44 | greycat | fbi: are you sure it's not just desyncing on *playback*? |
| 14:14.49 | mops | then I installed it with dpkg -i <packagename>.deb |
| 14:14.51 | The_ritz | can one use SMTP AUTH on a relay only sendmail and allo only authenticated access to telnet port 25? |
| 14:14.52 | fbi | greycat: that's what i meant |
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| 14:15.03 | snail | RichiH: try turning caching down? |
| 14:15.09 | Eulex | mikael_, you do not need to recompile your kernel to use the nvidia driver, and you do not have to add it to the initrd |
| 14:15.11 | noble- | When I restart identd I get an error in my syslog saying: bind(port=113) failed: Address already in use | terminating | anyone have any idea why this would be happening? |
| 14:15.12 | mops | but its name is the same as packagename in official distribution |
| 14:15.12 | fireba11 | AnyFile: u usually only need the 1st 4 cds |
| 14:15.18 | fbi | greycat: the *.avi starts out fine, and by the end of the filr the sound is off by about ten seconds |
| 14:15.19 | greycat | fbi: lots of players seem to have trouble keeping A/V sync in .ogm files. |
| 14:15.26 | greycat | .avi? dunno, then. |
| 14:15.27 | AnyFile | thank you |
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| 14:15.58 | fbi | s/filr/file/ |
| 14:15.58 | fireba11 | noble-: yes ..bin is still runnign there ^^ |
| 14:15.58 | mops | would it be upgraded the next time the official version would be upgraded?? |
| 14:15.58 | fireba11 | bind |
| 14:15.58 | bartden | hi, i have a intel centrino chip, with the ipw2200 wireless module loaded, when i run iwlist rate i see that the maximum rate is 54 MB/s , doesnt the intel BG2200 support 108 MB/s |
| 14:16.00 | fbi | greycat: what if i transcoded and split in seperate passes (which will take 28 hours instead of 16) |
| 14:16.04 | snail | AnyFile: we have a voting system for ordering the packages on the CDs. they only include the built packges, not the source |
| 14:16.09 | RZIVIANI | pessoal como eu consigo acessar meu servidor win 2000 server |
| 14:16.10 | greycat | fireba11: that message refers to bind(2) not bind(8) |
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| 14:16.19 | greycat | or rather, named(8) from the BIND package |
| 14:16.23 | noble- | fireba11, I can't see bin running there |
| 14:16.29 | black_13 | can the "iniit" super-process be called implicitly during startup |
| 14:16.29 | greycat | noble-: man 2 bind |
| 14:16.35 | fireba11 | ah okay |
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| 14:16.41 | greycat | black_13: the kernel calls it. |
| 14:16.44 | RichiH | snail: sure it would not cache the handlecounter in some arcane place? |
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| 14:17.08 | Noid | fireba11: i remapped a key to act as F1, it's not working |
| 14:17.33 | black_13 | i thought that an initial ramdisk would have a linuxrc and that linuxrc would then call /sbin/init |
| 14:18.34 | greycat | bartden: ask #ipw2100 |
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| 14:18.35 | noble- | I'm not gleaming much info from that |
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| 14:18.41 | greycat | noble-: lsof -i :113 |
| 14:18.47 | black_13 | greycat does the kernel always look for init in /sbin/init and when does the kernel start executing init? |
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| 14:19.00 | greycat | black_13: yes, and when it's ready. |
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| 14:19.06 | noble- | ahh |
| 14:19.17 | noble- | so kill that, then restart identd? |
| 14:19.28 | noble- | inetd is using it |
| 14:19.28 | greycat | depends on what "that" is. |
| 14:19.33 | fireba11 | Noid: hmm .. should be working though .. there should be a howto for that somewhere .. |
| 14:19.33 | greycat | man inetd.conf |
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| 14:19.43 | norskfjord | whats the command to setup the network card? |
| 14:19.50 | greycat | norskfjord: man interfaces |
| 14:19.50 | noble- | indetd auth |
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| 14:19.57 | black_13 | greycat what are the conditions that make it ready |
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| 14:20.00 | noble- | err inetd auth |
| 14:20.05 | greycat | black_13: read the kernel source. |
| 14:20.06 | Noid | fireba11: gonna check |
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| 14:20.17 | Miesco | Is there a text browser that can use frames and login to sites that require a login? |
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| 14:20.23 | greycat | noble-: man inetd.conf; editor /etc/inetd.conf; pkill -HUP inetd |
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| 14:21.06 | stew | Miesco: w3m / links2 |
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| 14:21.17 | noble- | inetd is all commented out, so I don't see why it would be doing anythin |
| 14:21.18 | mikael_ | I created an empty file for /lib/modules/2.6.13.2/kernel/drivers/ide, the command mkinitrd worked, I'll reboot |
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| 14:21.21 | mikael_ | thanx everybofy |
| 14:21.26 | wam | http://security.debian.org is slow (as mentioned in topic). But FTP says, files were missing. Is there a security-problem? |
| 14:21.26 | mikael_ | dy |
| 14:21.42 | norskfjord | When you first install debian, it comes up with this networking things asking for settings, how do I access that again? |
| 14:21.47 | noble- | inetd.conf is basically doing nothing |
| 14:22.00 | noble- | so I can just kill it right? |
| 14:22.01 | abrotman | norskfjord: etherconf is similar .. or man 5 interfaces |
| 14:22.06 | greycat | norskfjord: oh... you want to be a toddler all your life? base-config |
| 14:22.20 | greycat | silly me, assuming people would want to be grown ups. |
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| 14:22.40 | fireba11 | greycat: ;-) |
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| 14:22.47 | abrotman | does base-config ask you the IP stuff again? .. i thought it just did the timezone stuff |
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| 14:23.07 | greycat | don't know, don't care. |
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| 14:23.17 | fbi | abrotman you are correct, the network is set up during the installer |
| 14:23.36 | Eulex | anyone else have a feeling that mikael_ just seriously b0rked something? :) |
| 14:23.50 | BiBe | hm, i'm trying to get X running with an ati 9600 mobile in my notebook but it does'nt work. i tried with dpkg-reconfigure and selected an standard ati driver. was this corret? |
| 14:24.05 | bwbettin | just edit /etc/network/interfaces and do a "ifdown; ifup" |
| 14:24.06 | fireba11 | Eulex: lol |
| 14:24.07 | fbi | BiBe: X error log? |
| 14:24.28 | black_13 | greycat here is what i read "... /sbin/init is run by the linux kernel, once /linuxrc is complete, /sbin/init scans through the /etc/inittab, performing actions as necessary" that part i knew |
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| 14:25.32 | noble- | ok I think I get this |
| 14:25.36 | noble- | it's a false alarm |
| 14:25.38 | greycat | black_13: what do you think *we* are going to tell you? |
| 14:25.43 | greycat | we're not even a linux kernel channel. |
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| 14:26.19 | BiBe | the x log ends with: errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the x server. fatal server error, failed to initialize core devices.." any idea? |
| 14:26.30 | fireba11 | bwbettin: though i got the feeling that interfaces is a bit picky .. last time i treid to set it up manually it refused to work though i basically typed what i had on another PC |
| 14:26.37 | bagto | elow |
| 14:26.44 | Eulex | BiBe, google for the particular errors you get |
| 14:26.49 | fbi | BiBe: reconfigure, and don't lie to debconf about any of your input devices |
| 14:26.52 | fbi | you can't fool X. |
| 14:26.59 | bagto | why] |
| 14:27.02 | black_13 | greycat i figured you knew |
| 14:27.03 | Anton74 | Hey folks - is it right that I have 32 packages to be upgraded for Sarge this morning, mostly X related? |
| 14:27.09 | greycat | black_13: knew *what8? |
| 14:27.22 | BiBe | ok, i'll try |
| 14:27.25 | greycat | black_13: the internal layout of the linux kernel's source code? why would I care? |
| 14:27.27 | bagto | bibe hi |
| 14:27.37 | BiBe | hm? |
| 14:27.40 | greycat | black_13: the kernel probes hardware, and then it runs init. |
| 14:27.44 | greycat | black_13: that's all I need to know. |
| 14:27.57 | black_13 | greycat have i offended you? |
| 14:27.58 | bagto | anyone know about linux ubunto pls im me |
| 14:28.01 | black_13 | it seems like i have |
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| 14:28.07 | BiBe | bagto: do we know us? |
| 14:28.09 | Ronin | bagto: you tried #ubunto? |
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| 14:28.17 | fbi | there probably is no #ubunto. |
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| 14:28.34 | Ronin | or however its spelled |
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| 14:28.47 | greycat | he even asked us to "im" him. my fucking god.... |
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| 14:29.00 | black_13 | language |
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| 14:29.12 | greycat | what about it? |
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| 14:29.44 | greycat | he's the one who raped the english language; not I. |
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| 14:30.00 | black_13 | so you have to use curse words |
| 14:30.13 | nksen | anyone got those extra-keys of microsofts natural keyboard working under linux? |
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| 14:30.18 | JohnnyST | security.debian.org seems to be slow. |
| 14:30.26 | JohnnyST | today. |
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| 14:30.32 | Ronin | JohnnyST: really? guess thats why its in teh topic :) |
| 14:30.37 | stew | indeed |
| 14:30.39 | Eulex | nksen, try xbindkeys |
| 14:30.41 | JohnnyST | :) |
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| 14:30.51 | fireba11 | transfer is fast, only reaction time is slow |
| 14:30.53 | norskfjord | how do I do the security updates? |
| 14:31.08 | stew | norskfjord: /msg dpkg security |
| 14:31.24 | nkuttler | hm |
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| 14:31.43 | norskfjord | deb http://security.debian.org |
| 14:31.44 | nkuttler | freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from nkuttler |
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| 14:31.57 | scarynetworkguy | black_13: Yes on fucking occasion grownups use fucking strong language to fucking convy fucking strong emotion. This fucking works well on fucking IRC wich WRT fucking emotion is a fucking low bandwidth environ. I'm sure your fucking virgin eyes can fucking handle it so just get the fuck over your fucking self. |
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| 14:32.24 | black_13 | do this group have a moderator |
| 14:32.29 | fbi | was that really necessary? |
| 14:32.35 | fbi | take that shit to pm |
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| 14:32.51 | stew | black_13: greycat is one of the ops, but he just left |
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| 14:33.02 | gaetano | hello, i've a question: how to flush the mailman queue? remove all the files into /var/lib/mailman/qfiles is enough? need it because i'm upgrading my old woody mailman to the sarge's one, and aptitude stop the upgrade until i'll dont remove the queue.. |
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| 14:33.39 | Ronin | black_13: ya they're called @'s |
| 14:33.51 | fireba11 | gaetano_ "until i'll dont remove the queue" ?? |
| 14:33.59 | black_13 | Ronin ? |
| 14:34.24 | Ronin | you asked about moderators, they are none here the closet is the channel ops who decide what goes and what doesn't |
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| 14:35.20 | black_13 | does that mean they can use foul language and be abusive? |
| 14:35.23 | nkuttler | gaetano_: did you read the release notes? is something mentioned there? |
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| 14:35.30 | azeem | black_13: who is "they" |
| 14:35.30 | fbi | black_13: /ignore |
| 14:35.31 | azeem | ? |
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| 14:35.43 | gaetano_ | fireba11: yes, if i dont remeve the messagges in the queue.. mailman wont upgrade. it need to be empyt for the upgrade work properly |
| 14:35.47 | Ronin | black_13: then ignore them and get a thicker skin |
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| 14:36.14 | nkuttler | black_13: look, he helps many people, and sometimes he's fed up with stupid questions |
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| 14:36.31 | fireba11 | gaetano_: it should empty itself ... but i think you can delete the stuck messages manually |
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| 14:36.45 | gaetano_ | nkuttler: nothing on it |
| 14:36.50 | gaetano_ | fireba11: ok, i see |
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| 14:37.44 | black_13 | nkuttler what would happen if you used the same language in the real world speaking to a customer of a fellow coworker or just started cursing someone in restaurant |
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| 14:37.55 | caphuso | black_13: drop it |
| 14:37.58 | Ronin | black_13: let it go |
| 14:37.59 | abrotman | black_13: i talk to my boss like that .. so .. nothing :) |
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| 14:38.26 | nksen | Eulex: thx |
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| 14:38.39 | abrotman | and i've heard owners of companies talk to thier clients like that .. and they do a lot of business ... |
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| 14:39.02 | gaetano_ | fireba11: thanks, works now |
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| 14:39.08 | black_13 | so all of you are saying that its fine to be rude |
| 14:39.10 | azeem | abrotman: that doesn't mean it is alright in general for us to talk to users like that |
| 14:39.11 | black_13 | ok then |
| 14:39.24 | nkuttler | black_13: you're not a cutomer, he is a volunteer |
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| 14:39.42 | abrotman | azeem: in general no .. when idiocy abounds? :) |
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| 14:39.55 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: It's rude to be rude. |
| 14:40.20 | quiet | if you want to see rude... go hang out in #fedora.. |
| 14:40.21 | quiet | lol |
| 14:40.23 | azeem | abrotman: it's a thin line I guess. I just tend to go elsewhere for a while :) |
| 14:40.33 | abrotman | azeem: find your happy place! |
| 14:41.01 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: Don't take offence at anything in IRC. None of us exist, we're just lines of text on your screen. |
| 14:41.02 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: But my happy place *is* pounding idiots with large blunt objects! |
| 14:41.06 | noble- | azeem, did you give yourself this name? |
| 14:41.11 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: UFC! |
| 14:41.12 | azeem | noble-: no |
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| 14:41.21 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: You're right, people *do* speak differently online. But then, have you never swore at a sales call? |
| 14:41.25 | noble- | ;) |
| 14:41.32 | timgoh0 | scarynetworkguy: You prefer blunt objects? I prefer cattle prods. |
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| 14:41.42 | strugling | is there anybody here that can offer me some tech help |
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| 14:41.52 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: Instead of getting offended, ignore it or counter it. |
| 14:41.53 | scarynetworkguy | timgoh0: Well I like to mix it up a bit. But yes cattle prods are also good. |
| 14:41.55 | abrotman | strugling: you must ask first |
| 14:41.58 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: E.g.: |
| 14:41.59 | azeem | strugling: maybe, if you ask a specific question |
| 14:42.02 | ricky_clarkson | !bomb scarynetworkguy |
| 14:42.08 | abrotman | ha! |
| 14:42.23 | strugling | ask what first |
| 14:42.30 | quiet | your question |
| 14:42.32 | quiet | -_- |
| 14:42.35 | Ronin | strugling: ask your question |
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| 14:42.48 | floyd | is non-US dead? |
| 14:42.54 | ricky_clarkson | /topic |
| 14:43.01 | black_13 | ricky_clarkson i taught math in a junior college a couple of years back i got plenty of stupid questions ... how long do you think i would have lasted if had said "your fucking idiot" |
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| 14:43.13 | abrotman | you're |
| 14:43.13 | ricky_clarkson | black_13: Different context. |
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| 14:43.21 | azeem | Guerrrrin, abrotman: Somebody asked for permission to use the following in a blog entry: |
| 14:43.25 | azeem | <Guerrrrin> abrotman: it's not talk like a pornstar day |
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| 14:43.26 | scarynetworkguy | ricky_clarkson: And I speak no differently on IRC than in RL. Someone saying "Language.." or something along those lines gets the same stream of fucks as it does here. |
| 14:43.29 | azeem | <Guerrrrin> thank goodness |
| 14:43.31 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: Maybe the students had their own personal fucking idiot. |
| 14:43.35 | abrotman | azeem: sounds great! |
| 14:43.35 | azeem | is that ok (will hit PlanetDebian though) |
| 14:43.49 | abrotman | azeem: you should probably use the rest in context |
| 14:43.50 | quiet | it says security.d.o is slow... but I'm working on a new install.. and it's failing to even connect... but it got the lists from pair.com just fine.. |
| 14:43.57 | ricky_clarkson | scarynetworkguy: Grate[sic]. |
| 14:43.58 | abrotman | quiet: /topic |
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| 14:44.04 | caphuso | black_13: do you wanna now how long you can last here if you don't shut up now? |
| 14:44.08 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: read. |
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| 14:44.12 | ricky_clarkson | !rfd abrotman |
| 14:44.13 | dpkg | A book you might like to study, abrotman: http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/cwalerst/reading%20for%20dummies.gif |
| 14:44.14 | quiet | abrotman, i referred to the topic |
| 14:44.18 | Lilldude | liable got mail;? i got rid o clock i think |
| 14:44.29 | abrotman | quiet: pair doesn't mirror security afaik |
| 14:44.34 | quiet | yeah i know. |
| 14:44.51 | Lilldude | liable |
| 14:44.52 | quiet | I'mjust saying that security isn't 'slow' it's unable to connect. |
| 14:44.53 | black_13 | caphuso sorry you lost me |
| 14:45.13 | ricky_clarkson | Shitty xmms crashed. |
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| 14:45.20 | abrotman | caphuso: :) |
| 14:45.21 | Ronin | black_13: theyre saying get over the language problem you have today |
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| 14:45.26 | quiet | ricky_clarkson, get beep-media-player ;) |
| 14:45.34 | ricky_clarkson | quiet: Fuck that. That's worse. |
| 14:45.37 | quiet | lol |
| 14:45.40 | caphuso | black_13: it's simple. you either stop complaining that someone said "fucking" or i make you stop |
| 14:45.43 | abrotman | black_13: it happens .. if someone offends you ... /ignore is available to you |
| 14:45.52 | resiak | Arr, quit ye foul whining! |
| 14:45.57 | Phatey | Arr. |
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| 14:46.14 | ricky_clarkson | caphuso: afaict he stopped. |
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| 14:46.47 | Lilldude | well got my debian working no x clock |
| 14:47.02 | ricky_clarkson | What's an x clock? |
| 14:47.13 | Lilldude | pain in ass clock |
| 14:47.21 | ricky_clarkson | I've seen digital clocks, analogue clocks, but x clocks sound wierd. |
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| 14:47.39 | Lilldude | its ugly clock |
| 14:47.58 | ricky_clarkson | You want the ugly clock? |
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| 14:48.33 | abrotman | you konw .. xclock |
| 14:48.47 | abrotman | !find bin/xclock sarge |
| 14:48.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/xclock' (1): (/usr/X11R6/bin/xclock) in x11/xbase-clients. |
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| 14:49.12 | resiak | !installit |
| 14:49.13 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 14:49.16 | ricky_clarkson | You want xclock? You install xbase-clients. You run xclock. You see teh ugly clock. |
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| 14:49.26 | sward | dpkg: Ahoy! |
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| 14:49.41 | abrotman | dpkg: pirate |
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| 14:49.44 | abrotman | bah |
| 14:49.46 | dpkg | well, pirate is a robber and murderer in international waters. See <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy> |
| 14:49.56 | ricky_clarkson | Phukk RMS. |
| 14:49.56 | abrotman | dpkg: be a pirate |
| 14:49.57 | dpkg | Yeaaaar! Thar she blows! |
| 14:49.59 | abrotman | yay .. |
| 14:50.08 | sward | Arrr |
| 14:50.16 | ricky_clarkson | I've got RMS. Repetitive Mr. Stallman. |
| 14:50.24 | norskfjord | hey when ever I put an audio cd in, the cdrom won't mount.. ??? |
| 14:50.26 | Revenger | Arrrr matey! shiver me timbers! |
| 14:50.32 | ricky_clarkson | norskfjord: That's right. |
| 14:50.34 | Revenger | of course not. |
| 14:50.37 | resiak | norskfjord: Ye don't be mounting audiocds. |
| 14:50.41 | fbi | so what's a pirate in non-international waters? |
| 14:50.43 | resiak | !faq norskfjord |
| 14:50.44 | dpkg | norskfjord: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:50.47 | Eulex | norskfjord, an audio cd hasn't got any fs |
| 14:50.51 | ricky_clarkson | fbi: A Spanish fisherman. |
| 14:50.55 | fbi | haha |
| 14:50.58 | fbi | well done. |
| 14:51.00 | norskfjord | so how do I play it? |
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| 14:51.14 | ricky_clarkson | norskfjord: With a CD playing program. |
| 14:51.18 | ricky_clarkson | !play cd |
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| 14:51.26 | ricky_clarkson | !bomb dpkg |
| 14:51.27 | norskfjord | whats a good one to get? |
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| 14:51.29 | Ryushin | What is the correct way to handle module loading now with sid? /etc/modutils, /etc/modprobe.d, /etc/modules, etcetera? |
| 14:51.39 | ricky_clarkson | norskfjord: Don't know. apt-cache search play cd | less |
| 14:51.41 | ricky_clarkson | and pick one. |
| 14:51.49 | Eulex | or many |
| 14:51.50 | azeem | Ryushin: /etc/modules AFAIK |
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| 14:52.14 | norskfjord | I thought xmms would support audio cd's... |
| 14:52.27 | zenit | I thought it's /etc/modprobe.d |
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| 14:52.31 | ricky_clarkson | norskfjord: I know it does. |
| 14:52.33 | fbi | norskfjord: it does, you might need to install a plugin? |
| 14:52.45 | fbi | been a while since i used xmms for cd playback |
| 14:52.47 | Ryushin | You see, this is my confusion. I don't know which is the correct one now. |
| 14:52.55 | azeem | zenit: well, the one is for designating modules to be loaded on bootup. The other for configuring module options, AFAICT |
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| 14:53.42 | fbi | norskfjord: try installing xmms-cdread |
| 14:53.49 | norskfjord | so how do I get it to play the cd? it has CD Audio Player plugin? |
| 14:53.54 | Ryushin | So modprobe.d is for configuring alias definitions and such. Which one is run first? modprobe.d or /etc/modules? |
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| 14:54.07 | azeem | Ryushin: they are orthogonal |
| 14:54.16 | norskfjord | it lonly has play location, file and url |
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| 14:54.32 | azeem | Ryushin: /etc/modules (and hotplug) decide which modules to load, and their options are looked up in modprobe.d |
| 14:54.35 | azeem | (IMHO) |
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| 14:54.48 | nkuttler | norskfjord: cdcd |
| 14:55.13 | norskfjord | cdcd? |
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| 14:55.25 | azeem | norskfjord: it's a package |
| 14:55.27 | Ryushin | Okay. That make since. |
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| 14:56.03 | Ryushin | I should delete /etc/modutils and find out what package controls that then and remove it. As it should not longer be needed. |
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| 14:56.29 | zenit | azeem: are you sure that /etc/modules isn't only needed for modules used by debian kernels at boot? I compiled a custom kernel and I'm pretty sure that adding options to /etc/modprobe.d did the trick. |
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| 14:56.54 | azeem | zenit: no, I'm not sure |
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| 14:58.47 | sward | norskfjord: Use yer leadlights, when someone tells ye about a piece o' software an' ye don't know where to find it, /msg dpkg search and /msg dpkg googleit |
| 14:58.59 | sward | s/lead/dead/ |
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| 14:59.41 | resiak | norskfjord: Also be typing /msg dpkg installit |
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| 15:01.07 | brrrt | hello all |
| 15:01.13 | sward | ahoy there! |
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| 15:01.38 | brrrt | do you know what filesystem mac os 9 uses? |
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| 15:02.01 | sward | HFS? |
| 15:02.09 | sward | or whatever it's called |
| 15:02.31 | brrrt | i tried "mount -t hfs /dev/hdd1 hdd1" |
| 15:02.35 | brrrt | but no luck |
| 15:02.53 | par_ | haj! |
| 15:03.50 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.52 | brrrt | also cfdisk cannot determine the fs-table |
| 15:03.54 | fbi | how does that work? |
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| 15:04.20 | fbi | brrrt: where is your mount point |
| 15:04.31 | brrrt | /mnt/hdd1 |
| 15:04.47 | sward | brrrt: You be needing filesystem and the relevant partition table support in yer kernel, by the sound o' it |
| 15:04.48 | nkuttler | brrrt: you have to be in /mnt for that command to work then |
| 15:05.01 | brrrt | yes i am |
| 15:06.00 | brrrt | i did a "modprobe hfs" and "modprobe hpfs" first |
| 15:06.26 | nkuttler | brrrt: are you sure os 9 partitions are compatible with linux partitioning? fs type should be hfs afaik |
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| 15:06.55 | brrrt | well i dont know, i just tried |
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| 15:07.58 | LoRez | is there a way to regenerate the .Xauthority file? |
| 15:08.04 | BiBe | i'd like to uninstall apache2, but after apt-get remove apache a /etc/init.d/apache2 start works find and apache works. how can i uninstall apache completely? |
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| 15:08.10 | xoz | restart X |
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| 15:09.02 | nkuttler | BiBe: apt-cache show apache2, remove its dependencies |
| 15:09.33 | bwbettin | BiBe: Did you just remove apache, or apache AND apache2 (I believe you can install both servers, you'd need to remove both) |
| 15:09.35 | LoRez | xoz: other than restarting X |
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| 15:10.30 | bwbettin | BiBe: I use aptitude so I can't help you much with the command-line syntax. But what you typed looks to me like you removed "apache", and "apache2" still started (because you didn't remove it) |
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| 15:11.01 | soar | failed to install sarge with the kernel 2.6 in ThinkPad T43 |
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| 15:11.27 | soar | however 2.4 kernel works well in T43. |
| 15:11.29 | ricky_clarkson | Is there a filesystem that Debian supports that can do real undelete? |
| 15:11.37 | ricky_clarkson | Or some kind of add-on. |
| 15:11.45 | xoz | LoRez: man xauth.. maybe, you can generate it |
| 15:11.55 | BiBe | bwbettin: thx. apache is dead now, but its initscript is still present. why? |
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| 15:12.43 | nkuttler | BiBe: you need to --purge the package if you don't want them |
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| 15:13.42 | bwbettin | BiBe: I think nkuttler said it. In aptitude (and I'm assuming via the command-line) you can uninstall things in two different ways. One way removes the package but leaves configuration files, the other (purge) removes EVERYTHING. |
| 15:13.45 | northbayrep | hey hey. i'm having trouble installing the thunderbird package. it times out trying to download the .deb. |
| 15:13.52 | northbayrep | and gives this message: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird_1.0.2-2.sarge1.0.6_i386.deb |
| 15:13.56 | BiBe | hm, after apt-get remove apache2 --purge the iniscript is still present... |
| 15:14.04 | nkuttler | northbayrep: /topic |
| 15:14.34 | northbayrep | ah, so i'll just wait then. thanks. |
| 15:14.37 | nkuttler | BiBe: dpkg -S /etc/init.d/apache2 |
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| 15:16.37 | bwbettin | BiBe: I'm not sure. "man apt-get" for --purge says "Use purge instead of remove...", perhaps you should just use "--purge" and not "remove"? As I said, I'm not familiar with the syntax. |
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| 15:17.14 | RZIVIANI | alguem tecla português ai???? |
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| 15:17.27 | nkuttler | !pt |
| 15:17.27 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 15:17.50 | RZIVIANI | vlw |
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| 15:18.17 | BiBe | bwbettin: thx a lot. apache-common was responsable for the init script |
| 15:18.22 | Pita | How can you switch to NPTL on Debian? |
| 15:18.56 | bob2 | by install libc-i686, yes |
| 15:18.59 | bwbettin | BiBe: glad you got it working. |
| 15:19.08 | azeem | Pita: and a 2.6 kernel |
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| 15:19.41 | Pita | bob2: can that be done simply with apt-get? or it requires more than that? |
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| 15:20.14 | mohkohn | Hi I am having problems getting my usb stick to be detected automatically. |
| 15:20.32 | mohkohn | I can mount it manually but only root can read and write |
| 15:20.51 | stew | mohkohn: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 15:20.52 | bob2 | Pita: correcy |
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| 15:21.13 | boguh | just copied a font im my fontfolder buts its not there. do i have to restart fontserver or something like that? |
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| 15:21.31 | mohkohn | thanks stew |
| 15:21.36 | robin_ | sigh ... how come apt-get install java-package doesn't do anythihng apart from complian about not having any such package |
| 15:21.53 | darkness1 | Anyone know how to install ymessenger? |
| 15:21.55 | stew | robin_: /msg dpkg contrib |
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| 15:23.10 | BiBe | is there a away to search with apt-get or do i have to search with dpkg? |
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| 15:23.31 | zerve_the_death | apt-cache search <packet> |
| 15:23.35 | stew | BiBe: /msg dpkg search |
| 15:23.37 | thingfish | BiBe: apt-cache search <foo> |
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| 15:23.46 | BiBe | thx |
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| 15:25.08 | robin_ | stew: is there some really good reason why thats not in there by default? |
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| 15:26.23 | stew | robin_: yes, debian only supports free software out of the box |
| 15:26.38 | stew | robin_: /msg dpkg sc |
| 15:26.44 | stew | robin_: /msg dpkg dfsg |
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| 15:26.58 | robin_ | uh huh ... |
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| 15:29.14 | BiBe | is there a direcotry which i can browse manually for packages like /usr/src/portage in gentoo? |
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| 15:29.23 | Muffie | Jesus Christ! Its harder to install fglrx into Debian than it is on Gentoo! I could never imagined that... |
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| 15:30.25 | stew | BiBe: /var/lib/dpkg/available ; http://packages.debian.org |
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| 15:30.41 | stew | Muffie: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 15:31.04 | darkness1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.04 | darkness1 | 16:20:47 < stew> mohkohn: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 15:31.04 | darkness1 | 16:20:49 < bob2> Pita: correcy |
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| 15:32.18 | darkness1 | Anyone know how to get yahoo messenger? |
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| 15:32.33 | darkness1 | dpkg -i ymessenger doesn't work. |
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| 15:32.57 | thingfish | darkness1: last I looked, there's a .deb for it on their website. |
| 15:33.13 | darkness1 | thingfish: Thats waht doesn't work. |
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| 15:33.30 | thingfish | are you installing it as root? |
| 15:33.36 | darkness1 | :-) |
| 15:33.44 | darkness1 | Of course. |
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| 15:33.55 | thingfish | what's the filename you downloaded? |
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| 15:34.08 | Pita | bob2: what's the apt-get package name for apt-get libc-i686? |
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| 15:34.12 | Pita | I cannot find it |
| 15:34.14 | BiBe | hm, /var/lib/dpkg/availible seems to be very complex, packages.debian.org seems to be overloaded like security.debian.org. :(( |
| 15:34.35 | darkness1 | I need to find it again,something like dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.3_.deb |
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| 15:35.07 | stew | BiBe: run aptitude |
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| 15:35.37 | darkness1 | 16:20:47 < stew> mohkohn: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 15:35.37 | darkness1 | 16:20:49 < bob2> Pita: correcy |
| 15:35.43 | darkness1 | Damn. |
| 15:36.18 | stew | Pita: libc6? what are you trying to do? |
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| 15:36.36 | Pita | enable NPTL |
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| 15:37.15 | secureboot | anyone know if it's possible to replace a cable modem with an internal card under debian? I'd like to just have my one box, not a cable modem off to the side... |
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| 15:37.38 | secureboot | if so, what cards work? google has been quite reluctant to help. |
| 15:37.38 | error403 | does anybody know of a good KDE frontend for iptables, or any routing software that would replace port-forwarding on a router? |
| 15:37.42 | darkness1 | Right, i'm typing in dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0_4_1_i386.deb |
| 15:38.07 | thingfish | darkness1: and what's the error you get? |
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| 15:39.05 | darkness1 | dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0_4_1_i386.deb (--install): |
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| 15:39.05 | darkness1 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 15:39.05 | darkness1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.06 | rpoppi77 | Man, just installed Debian sarge 3.1 and apt-get gcc. Just downloaded the latest stable kernel from kernel.org and want to compile it. Got errors missing .h files. Do anybody has a list of packages I need to do a proper kernel compilation (after installing the basic sager 3.1..of course) |
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| 15:39.45 | wombachi | rpoppi77: packages like kernel-package and kernel-headers-xyz? |
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| 15:39.59 | stew | rpoppi77: build-essential? |
| 15:40.09 | rpoppi77 | humm...taking note... |
| 15:40.24 | rpoppi77 | I will try with those. |
| 15:40.27 | stew | rpoppi77: and if you are using make menuconfig, libncurses5-dev |
| 15:40.31 | thingfish | darkness1: type out the full path to the deb. |
| 15:40.37 | rpoppi77 | I just want to compile the source I got from kernel.org |
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| 15:40.45 | rpoppi77 | yes. make menuconfig. |
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| 15:41.25 | wombachi | rpoppi77 if you want to use the debian way: make menuconfig, then use make-kpkg to build a kernel-image-xyz package |
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| 15:43.00 | robin_ | stew: I presume the non-free thing is the reason Debian doenst ship with eclipse either? |
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| 15:43.47 | rpoppi77 | humm... thanks wombachi. Instead of using make bzImage, right? |
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| 15:44.20 | ezerhoden | http://www.projektfarm.com/en/support/howto/debian_kernel_compile.html |
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| 15:44.24 | wombachi | rpoppi77 yes. you dont have to, but it works well. |
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| 15:44.36 | BiBe | hm, i'm missing the option 'status' for the initscripts (e.g. apache). how to check whether the service is running? |
| 15:44.37 | stew | robin_: yes. but it might soon. eclipse is getting close to working with sablevm |
| 15:44.39 | Pita | If I know a repoistory is called "deb http://people.debian.org/~pvaneynd/cl-sarge-packages ./" how do I get something from it? |
| 15:44.41 | JohnnyST | security.debian.org is dead now. |
| 15:44.44 | rpoppi77 | wombachi ok. tks a lot |
| 15:45.05 | whatever | BiBe: ps ax | grep apache |
| 15:45.16 | stew | Pita: man sources.list |
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| 15:45.40 | tazman | are deb mirrors synced at a specific time? |
| 15:46.04 | BiBe | whatever: hm, ok. ;) |
| 15:46.09 | wombachi | Why s.d.o is soo slow now ? (runaway process, dos attack) are there s.d.o mirrors now? |
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| 15:46.16 | robin_ | JohnnyST: seems so ... great, thats seems to have stopped my installs for the afternoon .. is there a security mirror? |
| 15:46.21 | abrotman | wombachi: /topic |
| 15:46.37 | whatever | BiBe: ps ax basically gives a listing of all processes currently running on your system. then the | grep apache tells it to only print out lines that match the argument ' |
| 15:46.40 | abrotman | tazman: depends on the mirror .. but katie runs at the same time every day |
| 15:46.48 | whatever | BiBe: ack, the argument 'apache' |
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| 15:47.03 | wombachi | abrotman : I know it's slow, I was just asking why, if somebody has more infos. |
| 15:47.09 | robin_ | abrotman, /topc is worng s/slow/dead/ |
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| 15:47.15 | abrotman | wombachi: none that i've seen ... |
| 15:47.21 | tazman | ok, us mirror just sprung to like |
| 15:47.28 | robin_ | probably got hacked |
| 15:47.30 | abrotman | robin_: don't tell me .. i can't change the topic |
| 15:47.30 | tazman | ^like^life |
| 15:47.33 | stew | robin_: its not dead, just slow |
| 15:47.44 | wombachi | robin_ not dead, I'm upgrading right now. |
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| 15:47.54 | robin_ | dead frm here |
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| 15:48.14 | JohnnyST | Is it becouse of the big Xserver update? |
| 15:48.19 | whatever | microwaved peach slices are really weird, especially when they were frozen before. its like...half of it is nice and warm, and then the center is frozen... its really a bizzare taste |
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| 15:48.34 | aeioushdfgf | hello |
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| 15:48.52 | aeioushdfgf | how do i make gcc stop after first error ? |
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| 15:49.45 | nard | hi all, is security.debian.org down at present |
| 15:50.13 | whatever | nard: aparently its really slow right now? |
| 15:50.17 | bluegene007 | Hello guys |
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| 15:50.36 | robin_ | so basically, the entire update system depends on a single machine, and when it goes slow the entire debian planet is stuffed? |
| 15:50.37 | nard | whatever, ah yes... My connection just made it through. |
| 15:50.51 | bluegene007 | i dont know why but i'm banned on ubuntu servers "first time to connect" |
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| 15:51.19 | wombachi | I know there werent security mirrors before. Are there security mirrors these days? |
| 15:51.20 | whatever | robin_: probably not |
| 15:51.24 | thingfish | bluegene007: why would you ask in #debian? Ask in #ubuntu. |
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| 15:52.23 | vineet | you can try ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-security |
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| 15:52.37 | bluegene007 | it gave me this message Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned) |
| 15:52.46 | whatever | I wonder what the -massive- update or well....slowdown is for. |
| 15:52.51 | vineet | I don't know if it's necessarily updated as frequently as security.debian.org, but at least it's up-to-date right now |
| 15:52.55 | stew | bluegene007: are you from turkey? |
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| 15:53.03 | whatever | vineet: hey dude. |
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| 15:53.10 | bluegene007 | no i'm from Lebanon |
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| 15:53.43 | azeem | bluegene007: you need to identify to nickserv in order to /join #ubuntu |
| 15:53.44 | lestest | hi there ... is there a tool to ease kernel configuration? |
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| 15:54.00 | petemc | lestest: debian provides prebuilt kernels |
| 15:54.03 | whatever | lestest: like make menuconfig ? |
| 15:54.05 | nard | security.debian.org is one machine!?.... wow thats fscked up. |
| 15:54.25 | bluegene007 | how is that guys please help me! |
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| 15:54.41 | whatever | lestest: its a readline interface |
| 15:54.41 | Ronin | bluegene007: /msg nickserv help |
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| 15:54.54 | tazman | http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/net-snmp |
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| 15:55.07 | lestest | whatever: petemc: I mean use a prebuilt kernel to make a tinikernel on the running sistem configuration base |
| 15:55.09 | tazman | does that really exist or is it a mirage? |
| 15:55.30 | tazman | Couldn't find package net-snmp |
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| 15:55.50 | bluegene007 | ok got it thanks :-) |
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| 15:55.59 | whatever | lestest: ...you mean the config from a pre-built, and then modify it? |
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| 15:56.18 | vineet | whatever: hey, did you figure out that string comparison thing yesterday? |
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| 15:56.31 | lestest | whatever: yes but without bothering about hardware I don't have |
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| 15:57.10 | lestest | whatever: kernel compilation take too much |
| 15:57.16 | whatever | vineet: haha, yeah, dude...I feel so stupid. == and a1.compare(a2) BOTH worked.... the reason why it was acting strange is that I put a semi-colon at the end of the if statement, I wanted to hide after that one |
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| 15:57.40 | Rasko|nikov | hiiii |
| 15:57.50 | whatever | lestest: dude, you have to compile any custom or modified kernel... you arn't going to get around that |
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| 15:58.24 | whatever | vineet: its like, something you don't even think about after a while because its so simplistic. |
| 15:58.29 | Rasko|nikov | has anybody ever converted a vfat partition to ext3 using gparted? |
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| 15:58.43 | Rasko|nikov | im a little bitti frightened |
| 15:58.44 | Rasko|nikov | lol |
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| 15:59.11 | ricky_clarkson | Rasko|nikov: Don't worry. After all, you've got backups. |
| 15:59.31 | Rasko|nikov | ricky_clarkson, |
| 15:59.34 | whatever | Rasko|nikov: nope, can't say I have. can you copy the data temporarily to another location? like what ricky_clarkson mentioned |
| 15:59.37 | Rasko|nikov | i havent got backups |
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| 15:59.42 | ricky_clarkson | Rasko|nikov: Get some. |
| 16:00.04 | Rasko|nikov | the thing is that i dont have any free space on any disk |
| 16:00.12 | tazman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.20 | ricky_clarkson | So burn some CDs, DVDs, write to DAT, etc. |
| 16:00.21 | petemc | Rasko|nikov: then you should stick with fat |
| 16:00.24 | Rasko|nikov | and neither i have a dvd recorder |
| 16:00.25 | Rasko|nikov | lol |
| 16:00.28 | bluegene007 | Guys sorry but i registered my nick and still i'm banned in #ubuntu |
| 16:00.30 | whatever | Rasko|nikov: burn it to cd? |
| 16:00.41 | whatever | doh |
| 16:00.44 | ricky_clarkson | Rasko|nikov: Copy it to another machine. |
| 16:00.45 | Rasko|nikov | im thinking on resizing, creating a new ext3, then go copying and resizing |
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| 16:00.49 | fbi | and that is #debian's problem why? |
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| 16:01.05 | ricky_clarkson | Rasko|nikov: Don't be stupid. You should always have backups of your data. |
| 16:01.11 | whatever | Rasko|nikov: that seems more dangerous than just switching over. |
| 16:01.13 | bjenkins | raskolnikov, either that or split some little old lady's head open with an axe, and steal her storage... |
| 16:01.36 | whatever | lleeeerrrrooooooyyyy jenkins |
| 16:01.42 | whatever | XD I couldn't resist. |
| 16:01.46 | Rasko|nikov | well... then i'll have to ask someone for a HD lol |
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| 16:01.58 | whatever | Rasko|nikov: sounds wise |
| 16:02.01 | bluegene007 | Is my IP range banned in #ubuntu? |
| 16:02.11 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: Who cares? |
| 16:02.13 | Rasko|nikov | maybe i can take some friends machine here and do the job |
| 16:02.18 | Rasko|nikov | thanx anyway |
| 16:02.21 | Lilldude | liable |
| 16:02.26 | whatever | Rasko|nikov how much space do you need? |
| 16:02.38 | Rasko|nikov | 57 GB lol |
| 16:02.42 | whatever | :O |
| 16:02.43 | jbroome | bluegene007: i'm begining to see why you're banned |
| 16:02.46 | ricky_clarkson | Rasko|nikov: 57GB of data? |
| 16:02.55 | whatever | I was going to offer a server for backup, but thats a lot. LOL |
| 16:03.02 | azeem | bluegene007: /ban #ubuntu might tell you |
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| 16:03.24 | Rasko|nikov | dont worry, i will try to find a way |
| 16:03.36 | bjenkins | whatever: you know leroy jenkins? |
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| 16:03.48 | azeem | bluegene007: seems to be the case yes. We can do nothing about it, though |
| 16:04.00 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: = 17:04:30 [freenode] -!- 0 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@85.11* [by Seveas!n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl, 320439 secs ago] |
| 16:04.04 | whatever | bjenkins: I used to play WOW, then I realized I was losing my soul to it after playing 3 months solid..... |
| 16:04.22 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list |
| 16:04.28 | erf | Hey, I'm trying to use xf86config -configure to setup x but it always displays wierd lines on the screen when I try to startx |
| 16:04.33 | erf | any ideas why? |
| 16:04.36 | bjenkins | whatever: don't know what wow is. the leroy jenkins i know is an old school jazz violinist... |
| 16:04.37 | fbi | erf: don't use that |
| 16:04.39 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: Pick an op who is online, /msg him POLITELY to ask why you are banned. |
| 16:04.46 | ricky_clarkson | Or to ask to be unbanned. |
| 16:04.47 | whatever | strange non-us.debian.org isn't working for me |
| 16:04.51 | Skaja | i just got Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0a "Sarge" - Official i386 Binary-1 and 2 CD today i installed it but i keep getting the base system |
| 16:04.51 | ricky_clarkson | whatever: /topic |
| 16:04.57 | azeem | ricky_clarkson: Seveas is known to ban whole countries when he suspects a spam bot from there |
| 16:05.02 | fbi | erf: you now need to fix XF86Config-4 and then reconfigure X properly |
| 16:05.07 | whatever | bjenkins: oh, um, wow = world of warcraft |
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| 16:05.10 | ricky_clarkson | azeem: afaik you can have ban exceptions. |
| 16:05.18 | erf | fbi, I do that how? |
| 16:05.19 | stew | erf: /msg dpkg drxx ; /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 16:05.25 | bjenkins | whatever: ah, different leeeeroy i guess. |
| 16:05.35 | whatever | ricky_clarkson: :O ...thanks |
| 16:05.36 | fbi | erf: read the very top of XF86Config-4, it tells you what to do if you edited that file |
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| 16:06.28 | whatever | bjenkins: lol, yeah. theres a video circulating on the internet, a group of people playing WoW at level 60 trying to strategize over a Ventrilo talk server, and then he goes and screws everything up |
| 16:06.32 | Skaja | why do i keep geting the base install |
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| 16:07.02 | bjenkins | whatever: sounds like a leroy to me... |
| 16:07.11 | whatever | ricky_clarkson: ...so non-us is dead forever? I don't quite follow the topic. |
| 16:07.17 | whatever | bjenkins: lol |
| 16:07.36 | fbi | Skaja: elaborate on that one. |
| 16:07.44 | EmleyMoor | Is there a readily-available driver for a smartlink modem that works with kernel 2.6.13.2? (if there's a better channel please let me know) |
| 16:07.50 | ricky_clarkson | whatever: As the topic says, /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 16:08.15 | erf | wtf is a bus identifier? |
| 16:08.31 | fbi | erf: hit Enter |
| 16:08.36 | whatever | ricky_clarkson: I didn't even realize that actually gave info. >_< ...you can tell I don't use IRC much. thx........ |
| 16:08.41 | stew | erf: unless you have more than one card or are on a mac, leave it blank |
| 16:08.43 | Skaja | ok when i complete the debian install my system reboots into debian and i get shell not gnome |
| 16:08.54 | stew | Skaja: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 16:08.54 | fbi | Skaja: type 'startx' ? |
| 16:08.58 | ricky_clarkson | whatever: No, I can't tell that. Most people on IRC are ignorant. |
| 16:08.59 | fbi | oh |
| 16:09.01 | fbi | yeah, do that first |
| 16:09.09 | takatumi | Skaja: that's a boon, not a bane. |
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| 16:09.25 | Dewi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.25 | Dewi | 02:09:02 <Dewi> NOT people |
| 16:09.25 | Dewi | 02:09:02 -!- bots: No such nick/channel |
| 16:09.29 | whatever | ricky_clarkson: lol |
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| 16:09.53 | Skaja | how come x does not boot up first |
| 16:09.53 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: Please do NOT /msg me. |
| 16:10.12 | Eulex | Skaja, install whatever you want -- just apt-get install gnome to install gnome |
| 16:10.12 | EmleyMoor | Skaja: You want an X-based login prompt? |
| 16:10.23 | ricky_clarkson | Skaja: Install gdm. /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 16:10.33 | stew | Skaja: x is not installed by default on debian |
| 16:10.38 | Dewi | Skaja: check to see if you have gnome-desktop-environment, or gdm, or xdm, or something that would do what you describe |
| 16:10.51 | erf | nope startx still doesnt work |
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| 16:11.00 | fbi | erf: X log? |
| 16:11.04 | whatever | well, I'm out, have a great day/night guys |
| 16:11.06 | ricky_clarkson | bluegene007: I gave you explicit instructions. If you can't follow them, ASK IN THE FUCKING CHANNEL NOT IN /MSG! |
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| 16:11.09 | Skaja | i cant use apt get |
| 16:11.11 | stew | erf: did you follow the instructions in /msg dpkg xmd5 ? |
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| 16:11.16 | erf | yup |
| 16:11.18 | debianised | erf, it works, it just isn't properly configured |
| 16:11.19 | stew | Skaja: why not? |
| 16:11.20 | debianised | :) |
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| 16:11.25 | Eclipser | I second the topic :p |
| 16:11.27 | fbi | erf: /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 16:11.33 | XTR | bahaha. |
| 16:11.33 | Skaja | i have dial up |
| 16:11.36 | Eclipser | security.debian.org is uberslow |
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| 16:11.42 | Eclipser | times out too |
| 16:11.44 | norskfjord | whats the newest debian version? |
| 16:11.47 | norskfjord | Linux node23 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:11.50 | jbroome | Eclipser: check the /topic |
| 16:11.52 | jbroome | we know |
| 16:11.54 | norskfjord | 2.4 is a bit old isn't it? |
| 16:11.59 | Eclipser | jbroome, yeah read what I said |
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| 16:12.05 | EmleyMoor | norskfjord: That's the kernel version |
| 16:12.10 | whatever | jbroome: he was commenting on the topic |
| 16:12.11 | mess-mate | hi all. Is this the debian user channel ? |
| 16:12.14 | stew | Eclipser: use ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security |
| 16:12.15 | azeem | mess-mate: yes |
| 16:12.15 | EmleyMoor | 2.4 kernels are quite acceptable for most people |
| 16:12.15 | jbroome | Eclipser: doh. i'll be stfu now |
| 16:12.18 | whatever | mess-mate: yep |
| 16:12.21 | Eclipser | jbroome, :) |
| 16:12.24 | norskfjord | ohhh, is there a newer one? |
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| 16:12.41 | EmleyMoor | The 2.6 series exists - but you may not need it |
| 16:12.43 | mess-mate | Ok thanks. I've a few problems with mozilla. |
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| 16:12.50 | norskfjord | My mate has 2.6 and he said I should upgrade. |
| 16:12.53 | stew | norskfjord: no, sarge has 2.4.27-2 and 2.6.8-2 nothing newer |
| 16:12.57 | Eclipser | stew, nah, I have time to wait, I can't do much on this box anyway since I'm encoding this video and I want it done asap :< |
| 16:13.02 | drc | when you get error like this when trying to run X(free86), what could be wrong? (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (Module does not exist, 0) |
| 16:13.06 | Benix | hi |
| 16:13.10 | norskfjord | how do I update? |
| 16:13.17 | norskfjord | I want 2.6 |
| 16:13.17 | EmleyMoor | I rolled my own 2.6.13.2 a little while back |
| 16:13.23 | Dewi | EmleyMoor: 2.4 doesn't even get through the modprobing during install for my hardware. |
| 16:13.24 | bluegene007 | ok sorry for disturbance rickyclarkson |
| 16:13.25 | norskfjord | why? |
| 16:13.28 | Benix | does anybody know how to save an complete homepage? With sublinks? |
| 16:13.29 | stew | norskfjord: what cpu? |
| 16:13.31 | fbi | norskfjord: how does your 'mate' know what is best for _your_ system? |
| 16:13.40 | EmleyMoor | Dewi: I haven't used 2.4 for some time |
| 16:13.42 | norskfjord | It's a P3 733 |
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| 16:13.53 | petemc | Benix: wget has a mirror option that may do what you need |
| 16:13.54 | stew | norskfjord: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 16:14.00 | EdgEy | anyone know why i keep getting USB errors in debian? |
| 16:14.03 | whatever | emleymoor: hm, I'm running 2.6.13, notice much difference going to .2 at all? I'm wondering if I should just wait till .14 |
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| 16:14.07 | Dewi | EmleyMoor: I think it chokes on my SATA interface or something. But anyway, 2.6 Just Works in that dept. |
| 16:14.07 | mess-mate | Upgraded to the mozilla-brower sarge2 (security) ans now i've some error messages at the bottom of the mozilla window as: |
| 16:14.09 | Skaja | so can i set up gnome with out apt get |
| 16:14.12 | norskfjord | so what do you think is best for my p3 733? |
| 16:14.12 | EdgEy | and how to fix it if possible, i keep getting usbfs: USBDEVFS_BULK failed ep 0x2 len 64 ret -110 |
| 16:14.19 | EmleyMoor | whatever: Never ran plain 13 |
| 16:14.35 | Eulex | Skaja, open up /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line for your cdrom and comment all other lines |
| 16:14.40 | EmleyMoor | Tried 13.2 as part of a go at fixing my wireless and modem |
| 16:14.47 | mess-mate | menuitem label="&lbdCmd.label;" |
| 16:14.47 | EmleyMoor | Wireless is fine, modem still no go |
| 16:14.59 | norskfjord | So should I update to 2.6? |
| 16:15.06 | Dewi | norskfjord: do you have a reason to? |
| 16:15.06 | EmleyMoor | norskfjord: Why do you feel you need to? |
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| 16:15.14 | stew | norskfjord: what problem are you trying to fix? |
| 16:15.19 | whatever | emleymoor: ah, well, thats good, and a bummer at the same time I guess |
| 16:15.21 | norskfjord | I just thought this is a bit old |
| 16:15.28 | norskfjord | and 2.6 might run better |
| 16:15.29 | erf | "Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices" |
| 16:15.41 | norskfjord | erf, thats your mouse |
| 16:15.49 | Dewi | norskfjord: as a general rule for large software systems, upgrades are risky. There's nothing hugely problematic about "old 2.4" so I wouldn't take the risk for no reason. |
| 16:15.50 | norskfjord | erf, select PSAUX. |
| 16:15.56 | erf | mk |
| 16:15.59 | Dewi | norskfjord: wait until it pisses you off in some way, then upgrade :P |
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| 16:16.09 | Eulex | erf, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg and tell it what input devices you really have |
| 16:16.10 | norskfjord | okay |
| 16:16.12 | azeem | mess-mate: you can check http://bugs.debian.org/mozilla-browser whether a bug like that exists |
| 16:16.20 | EmleyMoor | I was running 2.4 before it even came out! |
| 16:16.21 | EdgEy | annoying, before i reinstalled eciadsl was working fine, reinstall and i get usb errors all over |
| 16:16.21 | EdgEy | :/ |
| 16:16.22 | whatever | emleymoor: I also forget I primarily update to get the newer x64 instruction codes, where everyone in here is mostly using the 32 bit |
| 16:16.23 | norskfjord | So it isn't secure or anything? |
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| 16:16.35 | norskfjord | insecure* |
| 16:16.42 | erf | Yay its working :) |
| 16:16.48 | EmleyMoor | norskfjord: No - security is very good |
| 16:16.52 | mess-mate | azeem: did you solve that problem and how ?? |
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| 16:16.57 | EmleyMoor | 2.4 is still a maintained kernel series anyway |
| 16:16.59 | BiBe | i can't find rp-pppoe in my apt-cache. how can i get it? |
| 16:16.59 | Eulex | norskfjord, no, its the bleeding edge kernels that are insecure |
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| 16:17.15 | Dewi | norskfjord: 2.4 is still the default stable debian kernel |
| 16:17.19 | whatever | ok, for real, I'm going now. XD |
| 16:17.25 | EmleyMoor | Look at www.kernel.org sometime - and install kernel-package if you want to RYO |
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| 16:17.40 | erf | Cheers guys |
| 16:17.40 | Skaja | ok but i dont know how to open up /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:17.44 | erf | And gals... |
| 16:17.45 | zoghome | be curious to see the "top" or "iostat" output on security.debian.org right now |
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| 16:17.51 | EmleyMoor | Skaja: Use your favourite editor |
| 16:17.53 | Eulex | Skaja, nano? vim? |
| 16:17.53 | erf | Bah who am I kidding theres no girls in here |
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| 16:18.19 | Dewi | erf: I find that offensive. |
| 16:18.22 | Dewi | that lack of girls in here ,that is. |
| 16:18.28 | Skaja | i dont know how to get in to gnome |
| 16:18.32 | azeem | boys, please keep cool |
| 16:18.40 | azeem | mess-mate: I don't use mozilla |
| 16:18.43 | azeem | or testing |
| 16:18.53 | Dewi | what's a text editor Skaja would be able to use? vim's probably too much |
| 16:18.56 | Eulex | Skaja, btw, did you install from a netinstall on a machine that only has dial-up? or do you own the full set or a subset of it? |
| 16:18.57 | stew | Skaja: you can use apt-get to install from cds if you have cds |
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| 16:19.03 | fbi | Skaja: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 16:19.37 | mess-mate | azeem: ok what dou you use ? |
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| 16:19.41 | azeem | mess-mate: epiphany |
| 16:19.44 | Skaja | stew are you sure? |
| 16:19.54 | stew | Skaja: positive, man apt-cdrom |
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| 16:19.55 | norskfjord | Can you play diablo 2 on debian? |
| 16:19.55 | Phated | There are SO girls in here! |
| 16:20.05 | Skaja | ok thanks |
| 16:20.17 | Phated | Oh, sorry, I see Dewi's already made that point. |
| 16:20.20 | zoghome | aren't we all bots in here? |
| 16:20.24 | gozz | how would i go about troubleshooting my cdrom my error is invalad block device? |
| 16:20.31 | mess-mate | azeem: i'll look at it, but my mutt stands for mozilla :) |
| 16:20.45 | cahoot | gozz: trying to mount an audio cd? don't |
| 16:21.00 | Dewi | Phated: I sort of did and then backed out. I'd love to believe that there are, but I just can't muster the optimism tonight. |
| 16:21.02 | gozz | no a data cd |
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| 16:21.09 | stew | Dewi: you are talking to one |
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| 16:21.24 | Phated | Duh. |
| 16:21.25 | Phated | :) |
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| 16:21.39 | gozz | and a blank cd-r no luck with either |
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| 16:21.41 | mess-mate | azeem: No, it's for gnome; that way i've to install some gnome packages to run it. |
| 16:21.41 | Phated | Should I start WEARING a skirt, maybe? |
| 16:21.52 | azeem | mess-mate: I didn't say you should use epiphany |
| 16:21.58 | stew | gozz: blank cds don't contain filesystems, and therefore can't be mounted |
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| 16:22.09 | Phated | gozz: What are you trying to mount? /dev/hdc? |
| 16:22.10 | azeem | mess-mate: I just pointed you to potentially some more information about your problem |
| 16:22.15 | Dewi | Phated: unfortunately if you make it too obvious you'll be inundated with attention |
| 16:22.19 | Dewi | Phated: so be careful |
| 16:22.27 | mess-mate | azeem: i know :) |
| 16:22.30 | ricky_clarkson | Phated!!! You got your 'h' back! |
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| 16:22.35 | Phated | Dewi: I've dealt with attention. |
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| 16:22.50 | Phated | ricky_clarkson: I've always had it. The 'f' is only in when I'm too lazy to SSH to me desktop. |
| 16:22.51 | Dewi | Phated: do you think if I wear a skirt, I'll get attention? |
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| 16:22.53 | vir | hello all i need some help getting ibook to talk to my debian linux. I have the debian system connected to the internet,ibook and the pc are connected via a ethernet (p2p) cable. how do i proceed beyond this ? |
| 16:22.58 | Phated | Dewi: Are you female or male? |
| 16:23.02 | Dewi | Phated: male |
| 16:23.08 | Phated | Dewi: Most definitely. |
| 16:23.15 | ricky_clarkson | Dewi: Are you in Scotland? |
| 16:23.15 | Dewi | although this is a female name in some countries |
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| 16:23.18 | Dewi | so I do get attention |
| 16:23.20 | Phated | Isn't Dewi a female name, though? |
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| 16:23.27 | Dewi | Phated: who told you it was? |
| 16:23.28 | Phated | Yeah, I know a few female Dewis. |
| 16:23.32 | Dewi | Phated: where? |
| 16:23.38 | Phated | Dewi: Singapore. |
| 16:23.39 | EmleyMoor | Male name in Wales at least |
| 16:23.40 | Dewi | ricky_clarkson: nope. Australia. |
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| 16:23.47 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: cwrw!!! |
| 16:23.54 | joel | hey, Im having problems watching tv with vlc, it says "v4l demuxer error: chroma selection failed". any ideas? |
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| 16:24.00 | Dewi | Phated: yeah, singapore, indonesia. That's where most of the attention comes from. Also some from Holland, strangely. |
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| 16:24.02 | gozz | i have tried mount dev/cdrom, mount dev/hdc and mount dev/cd none seem to work |
| 16:24.05 | EmleyMoor | ricky_clarkson: :-) |
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| 16:24.08 | Phated | Dewi: Heh. |
| 16:24.15 | Dewi | Phated: aah that's right, I was telling you the other night that you have a cultural stereotype lah |
| 16:24.23 | joel | I know theres a v4l channel or something like that, can't remember the name of it though.. |
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| 16:24.32 | cahoot | gozz: /cdrom? or /media/cdrom? |
| 16:24.35 | stew | gozz: what kind of cd is in the drive? |
| 16:24.36 | Phated | Dewi: You were telling timgoh0, I believe. He's a schoolmate of mine. |
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| 16:25.05 | Phated | gozz: chuck in a data cd, mount /dev/cdrom |
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| 16:25.13 | cahoot | gozz: didn't forget the preceding slash? |
| 16:25.16 | Phated | dev/cdrom clearly won't actually work. |
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| 16:25.29 | gozz | i tried to burn a cd with k3b and it said i could only make an image do to no cdrom dev |
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| 16:25.44 | fbi | huh? |
| 16:25.55 | Phated | Is it even an IDE drive? For all we know, it could be sr0 or something funkeh. |
| 16:25.58 | gozz | yes i used the slash |
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| 16:26.48 | Eulex | gozz, age and type of the cd drive? is it found by the kernel at boot? (check syslog and dmesg) |
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| 16:26.58 | stew | gozz: are you still trying to mount a blank cd? |
| 16:26.58 | Dewi | Phated: one of my friends has a lot of family in singapore. Last time she went she brought back tapes of Light of a Thousand Hopes, and... an action-packed show about spies and card games whose name escapes me. So anyway, based on this I have a concept of singaporean stereotype now. |
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| 16:27.12 | fbi | haha the cd has nothing on it? |
| 16:27.13 | Phated | Dewi: Bahahahaha. Yah lah. |
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| 16:27.29 | tazman | debian can mount empty block devices? |
| 16:27.39 | gozz | no it is a data cd |
| 16:27.47 | stew | gozz: did you burn it? how? |
| 16:27.48 | Phated | Dewi: Spies and card games? One of the Raintree Pictures movies? Those are VERY stereotypical. Fun, though. |
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| 16:28.12 | Dewi | Phated: the unbeatables, it was. though that one's chinese, I think |
| 16:28.12 | Phated | gozz: dmesge | grep hd . Look for a cdrom drive anywhere. |
| 16:28.13 | stew | gozz: what *exact command are you using to try to mount it? |
| 16:28.20 | jharrisonwk | is security.debian.org down? |
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| 16:28.25 | Phated | Dewi: Oh, that one! |
| 16:28.26 | Ronin | jharrisonwk: cough /topic |
| 16:28.31 | Phated | jharrisonwk: Topic says it's slow. |
| 16:28.42 | stew | jharrisonwk: very slow, try ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security |
| 16:28.43 | gozz | i burned it on windows a long time ago with nero |
| 16:28.44 | Phated | Dewi: Quite stereotypical, yes. |
| 16:28.48 | stew | jharrisonwk: how's the weather down there? |
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| 16:29.28 | jharrisonwk | stew: getting fiesty |
| 16:29.33 | ahmrahtcheer_ | howdy, have a problem with CUPS/printing: i installed cups & related files, configured for my printer and successfully printed test pages, but cannot print from any apps. |
| 16:29.34 | gozz | the disk is fine it works on my slackware installation |
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| 16:30.04 | gozz | mount: /dev/hdc is not a valid block device |
| 16:30.05 | Eulex | gozz, please answer my question |
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| 16:30.14 | stew | gozz: what *exact command are you using to try to mount it? |
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| 16:30.30 | Phated | gozz: dmesge | grep hd , please. Look for a cdrom drive anywhere. |
| 16:30.39 | me_here | how do i set up the priority of xmms to a higher value ? |
| 16:30.48 | me_here | as a normal user |
| 16:30.55 | Thaiger | I used apt-get to install libapache-asp-perl, but when I try to view ASP pages in my /var/www they just show source. What else do I need to do? |
| 16:31.01 | Dewi | Phated: hilarious. some amount of alcohol was involved. But Australian TV isn't much better, I'm sorry to say. |
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| 16:31.15 | gozz | dmesge | grep hd |
| 16:31.25 | Eulex | me_here, not possible afaik |
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| 16:31.31 | Phated | Dewi: Heh. |
| 16:31.35 | Eulex | gozz, aaah, don't paste here |
| 16:31.44 | Phated | Argh, I'm an idiot. |
| 16:31.45 | Eulex | gozz, if that's what you were going to do |
| 16:31.53 | Phated | gozz: dmesg | grep hd. At a console. |
| 16:31.59 | SIrrush- | Hello everyone |
| 16:32.01 | bob2 | Thaiger: you know it won't run vbscript etc, right? |
| 16:32.03 | me_here | so i have to su then |
| 16:32.04 | vineet | Thaiger: look into the AddHandler directive |
| 16:32.08 | norskfjord | hey there is a bnc coax connection on my hub, whats it for? |
| 16:32.11 | Thaiger | bob2: Yes |
| 16:32.12 | norskfjord | how do I use it? |
| 16:32.25 | Phated | norskfjord: A coax connection. Generally cable. |
| 16:32.32 | EmleyMoor | norskfjord: 10base-2 |
| 16:32.34 | Phated | Like... cable modem or summat. |
| 16:32.35 | jharrisonwk | guess ill start mirroring security.debian.org for internal use |
| 16:32.37 | philsnow | hi, so I just downloaded a "debian 3.0" fs image to run in UML, and tried to apt-get install gcc-3.4, which dutifully seemed to do so, but now there's a cc1 buried somewhere but no "gcc" binary |
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| 16:32.47 | norskfjord | yes |
| 16:32.48 | philsnow | what do i need to install to get the glue stuff |
| 16:32.58 | Eulex | philsnow, why 3.0? |
| 16:33.12 | jharrisonwk | philsnow: aptitude install elmers |
| 16:33.17 | jharrisonwk | :) |
| 16:33.20 | EmleyMoor | Most people these days don't bother with anything other than at least 10base-T |
| 16:33.22 | philsnow | Eulex: er.. that's the pre-built one that i found :\ |
| 16:33.30 | philsnow | pre-built UML fs image, that is |
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| 16:33.36 | jharrisonwk | EmleyMoor: 10base-T? |
| 16:33.38 | Phated | EmleyMoor: Cable uses coax. |
| 16:33.49 | philsnow | i don't know what all goes into preparing a distribution to run inside uml |
| 16:33.50 | bob2 | philsnow: so, install build-essential, then gcc-3.4 |
| 16:33.53 | gozz | it only shows hda |
| 16:33.54 | EmleyMoor | jharrisonwk: You know - 10 meg over cat5 |
| 16:33.58 | jharrisonwk | EmleyMoor: I've got 1000bast-T |
| 16:33.59 | philsnow | bob2: i'll try that, thanks! |
| 16:34.00 | Eulex | philsnow, and what does its /etc/apt/sources.list say? oldstable, stable, testing, unstable? |
| 16:34.00 | stew | philsnow: 3.0 doesn't have gcc-3.4 only 2.95 |
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| 16:34.06 | philsnow | Eulex: stable |
| 16:34.08 | jharrisonwk | EmleyMoor: you know 1000mbit over cat5 |
| 16:34.13 | me_here | xine is frozen now, shit |
| 16:34.18 | EmleyMoor | 10base-2 is an older type of network, using coax |
| 16:34.23 | philsnow | stew: apt-cache search gcc |grep 3.4 gives some hits.. |
| 16:34.24 | SIrrush- | I am wondering how can I change my resolution, I get 640x480, and 800x600, I've tried xf86config and nothing changed any help or ideas would be much appreciated, Thanks |
| 16:34.33 | stew | philsnow: you have mix of woody and sarge then, you should move completely to sarge, /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 16:34.38 | Phated | There's nothing wrong with 10Base-T. Not as fast, certainly, but still. |
| 16:34.39 | Eulex | philsnow, thats your problem, you've probably b0rked it by installing stable stuff on oldstable using apt-get |
| 16:34.41 | EmleyMoor | I'm just up to 100 fully as of today |
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| 16:34.50 | planadecU | hi |
| 16:34.54 | EmleyMoor | (had two faulty switches when I tried previously) |
| 16:34.55 | Eulex | !tell SIrrush- about drxx |
| 16:35.00 | planadecU | how do i speak to another user using the console ??? |
| 16:35.00 | jharrisonwk | most WAN ports are 10base-T |
| 16:35.12 | Eulex | SIrrush-, and you shouldn't use xf86config, therefore you need this one too: |
| 16:35.17 | jharrisonwk | like on home routers and even on most cable/dsl modems |
| 16:35.17 | Eulex | !tell SIrrush- about xmd5 |
| 16:35.21 | EmleyMoor | My hub only has 10 - hence the internal upgrade |
| 16:35.28 | philsnow | stew: alas! is woody the previous "stable" and sarge is the new "stable"? |
| 16:35.29 | mops | how can I optimize X server? |
| 16:35.29 | SIrrush- | Eulex, thank you sir |
| 16:35.32 | EmleyMoor | My router even |
| 16:35.33 | stew | philsnow: yes |
| 16:35.37 | planadecU | how do i chat to another user using the console ??? |
| 16:35.38 | mops | I downloaded xserver-xfree86 source pkg |
| 16:35.51 | mops | but don't know how to pass compiler parameters... |
| 16:35.55 | philsnow | stew: should i back out all the things i've apt-get installed ? |
| 16:35.59 | azeem | mops: optimize? |
| 16:36.01 | Eulex | philsnow, yes, woody is oldstable and sarge is stable |
| 16:36.03 | mops | azeem: yes |
| 16:36.08 | azeem | mops: I would advise against compiling X |
| 16:36.19 | stew | philsnow: if that is at all possible it would be difficult |
| 16:36.27 | azeem | mops: at least until Xorg 7.0 is there, which will make it much easier due to be modularized |
| 16:36.34 | philsnow | well, i haven't worked much, and i have a backup of the root_fs before i added anything |
| 16:36.38 | stew | philsnow: what version does dpkg -l libc6 report? |
| 16:36.50 | jharrisonwk | security.debian.org is not mirrored is it? |
| 16:36.51 | planadecU | how do i chat to another user using the console ??? |
| 16:36.53 | mops | I want compile X, how can I pass parameter to compiler? |
| 16:37.03 | azeem | mops: run the patch target |
| 16:37.05 | stew | jharrisonwk: ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security |
| 16:37.10 | Eulex | philsnow, I'd start from scratch and download the disk image again and delete the old one -- and make sure to change stable to oldstable |
| 16:37.11 | azeem | mops: then edit build-tree/xc/config/cf/linux.cf |
| 16:37.12 | jharrisonwk | planadecU: what client are you using chief |
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| 16:37.15 | jharrisonwk | stew: thats it? |
| 16:37.24 | philsnow | stew: 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 16:37.28 | azeem | mops: then run the binary-arch target |
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| 16:37.31 | planadecU | jharrisonwk ssh, what does it use by default ? |
| 16:37.32 | mops | azeem: what do you mean with "run the patch target"? |
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| 16:37.45 | jharrisonwk | stew: is that temporary or is it documented somewhere that ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security is a mirror for security.debian.org? |
| 16:37.56 | stew | jharrisonwk: i do not know |
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| 16:37.59 | bob2 | note that it's an unofficial mirror |
| 16:38.00 | gozz | so this means debian isnt detecting my cdrom ? |
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| 16:38.03 | azeem | mops: run the target in debian/rules which extracts the source tree and applies the Debian patches |
| 16:38.13 | stew | philsnow: that is sarge, you will not be able to revert that |
| 16:38.15 | azeem | mops: I don't know its exact name, you will have to research that |
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| 16:38.32 | stew | philsnow: is there a reason you are attempting to run woody and not sarge? |
| 16:38.37 | jharrisonwk | planadecU: you want to send system messages? |
| 16:38.45 | azeem | mops: if you don't know what I'm talking about: |
| 16:38.45 | azeem | 18:32 < azeem> mops: I would advise against compiling X |
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| 16:38.59 | Eulex | gozz, please answer my full question |
| 16:39.02 | mops | ok, ok |
| 16:39.17 | mops | but when I want to optimize... |
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| 16:39.21 | mops | what to do? |
| 16:39.26 | jharrisonwk | mops: run gentoo? |
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| 16:39.32 | valdyn | !gentoosmite mops |
| 16:39.33 | zeo33x | how do i compare entire directorys? can i do it with diff |
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| 16:39.52 | stew | zeo33x: diff -r |
| 16:39.52 | mops | valdyn: LOL |
| 16:39.54 | philsnow | stew: only that i want to run inside UML and don't know all the ins and outs of installing a generic distribution to uml |
| 16:39.57 | jharrisonwk | zeo33x: yes diff-r |
| 16:40.00 | mops | ok |
| 16:40.09 | jharrisonwk | stew: quick on the draw there arent you |
| 16:40.10 | mops | I understand... :) |
| 16:40.18 | jass | hi, i'm a total newby and need to get apache to parse php, i apt-get installed php4 and apache (not apache2), what should I do? |
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| 16:40.20 | philsnow | stew: so all i have to work with are pre-built images, most of which are RH-based, except for this debian one, and a slack-8.1 one |
| 16:40.47 | azeem | mops: sorry, you want to do something non-mainstream. You will have a hard time getting support here. But there is commercial support for Debian available |
| 16:41.04 | bob2 | jass: /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian |
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| 16:41.12 | gozz | what is your ? |
| 16:41.19 | jass | bob2: ok, I'll read |
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| 16:41.31 | jharrisonwk | jass: libapache-mod-php4 |
| 16:41.33 | stew | philsnow: well if you want to stick with woody, use "woody" or "oldstable" in sources.list |
| 16:41.34 | jharrisonwk | jass: you will need that |
| 16:41.37 | philsnow | stew: so an aptitude dist-upgrade will not upgrade that libc ? |
| 16:41.44 | jharrisonwk | jass: will you be using php with mysql? |
| 16:41.49 | Eulex | <Eulex> gozz, age and type of the cd drive? is it found by the kernel at boot? (check syslog and dmesg) |
| 16:41.50 | stew | philsnow: its already upgraded to sarge, you cannot downgrade |
| 16:42.16 | philsnow | stew: oh, but if i start from "scratch" with a woody image, i can dist-upgrade to sarge? |
| 16:42.16 | jass | jharrisonwk: I have it, and I'll be using it with mysql too |
| 16:42.22 | stew | philsnow: i'm not too familiar with uml, but i don't know any reasons why upgrading to sarge would break it |
| 16:42.26 | jharrisonwk | jass: so you need php4-mysql as well |
| 16:42.31 | Eulex | philsnow, maybe |
| 16:42.35 | philsnow | stew: awesome, thanks |
| 16:42.36 | stew | philsnow: yeah, /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 16:42.42 | jass | jharrisonwk: ok, but it still doesn't parse phph |
| 16:42.45 | philsnow | stew: did so, just waiting for the image to re-download |
| 16:43.04 | Eulex | philsnow, that is, if you do it correctly |
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| 16:43.13 | jharrisonwk | jass: you need to check your /etc/apache/modules.conf and see if the php4 module is there |
| 16:43.27 | jass | jharrisonwk: okay, I'll check |
| 16:43.31 | Eulex | !tell philsnow about woody->sarge |
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| 16:43.59 | jass | jharrisonwk: it should look something lihe php4_mod? |
| 16:44.16 | stew | jass: you need an AddType entry for .php |
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| 16:44.44 | jass | stew: the addtype entry goes to what file? |
| 16:44.52 | philsnow | i don't think that there were any mentions of "woody" in sources.list, only "stable" -- do i need to change them to "woody" before i apt-get install aptitude ? |
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| 16:44.55 | stew | jass: httpd.conf usually |
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| 16:45.08 | Eulex | philsnow, yes |
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| 16:45.37 | jharrisonwk | jass: you may also need to edit /etc/php4/apache/php.ini and uncomment extension=mysql.so |
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| 16:45.40 | philsnow | Eulex: thanks |
| 16:45.40 | yoo | somebody know a chan IRC with a lot of quake3 players experimented who use linux ? |
| 16:45.40 | jharrisonwk | jass: yes |
| 16:45.56 | jharrisonwk | jass: you should see a php4_mod line in apache/modules.conf |
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| 16:46.40 | jharrisonwk | jass: yes you need to check also apache/http.conf and uncomment addtype php4 stuff like stew said |
| 16:46.55 | jharrisonwk | jass: there should be 2 lines of addtype for php4 to uncomment |
| 16:46.57 | jass | jharrisonwk: but I don't, what excactly should I add? |
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| 16:47.21 | jharrisonwk | jass: you should not need to add it just uncomment |
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| 16:47.30 | jass | jharrisonwk: okay, I'll check httpd.conf fitst |
| 16:47.35 | jass | first |
| 16:47.37 | gozz | it is a sony dvd rw dw-q28a 2004 it dosnt show up in dmesg and im not sure where to find syslog |
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| 16:48.15 | jharrisonwk | jass: these lines |
| 16:48.17 | jharrisonwk | jass: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
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| 16:49.00 | jill | clamav any good how do i install it |
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| 16:49.04 | honschu | I created a "saa7134" file in /etc/modutils/ with "options saa7134 card=9" and did update-modules, but a "modprobe saa7134" _didn't_ add a card=9 !!! Why ??? |
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| 16:49.44 | Eulex | jill, it's apt-gettable |
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| 16:50.17 | sandman | A lot of security updates today |
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| 16:51.12 | jass | jharrisonwk: okay, everything but the modules conf is done, whats the line I shpuld add there, there is nothing right now |
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| 16:51.40 | jass | jharrisonwk: I mean nothing about php |
| 16:51.53 | jharrisonwk | jass: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 16:52.10 | honschu | I created a "saa7134" file in /etc/modutils/ with "options saa7134 card=9" and did update-modules, but a "modprobe saa7134" _didn't_ add a card=9 !!! Why ??? |
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| 16:52.18 | jharrisonwk | jass: when you are done all that restart apache with /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 16:52.28 | jharrisonwk | jass: then cd /var/www |
| 16:52.48 | jharrisonwk | jass: and then nano test.php and put in test.php the line <? phpinfo(); ?> and then save it |
| 16:53.05 | jharrisonwk | jass: then hit your http://website.com/test.php |
| 16:53.12 | Eulex | !tell honschu about repeat |
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| 16:53.21 | jharrisonwk | jass: you should get a nice output of your php installtion and configuration |
| 16:53.23 | silentigger | help-me |
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| 16:53.24 | gozz | where can i find the systemlog? |
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| 16:53.50 | Eulex | gozz, /var/log/syslog |
| 16:53.54 | stew | gozz: /var/log/syslog / /var/log/messages etc.. |
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| 16:53.57 | gozz | thx |
| 16:53.59 | silentigger | where can i get driver BCM4306 Airport? |
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| 16:54.05 | jass | jharrisonwk: IT WORKS! thanks a lot :) |
| 16:54.09 | bob2 | silentigger: haha |
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| 16:54.14 | bob2 | silentigger: is it too late to return it? |
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| 16:54.27 | silentigger | bob2, yes |
| 16:54.31 | stew | silentigger: you might be able to get windows drivers from broadcom or microsoft |
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| 16:54.35 | silentigger | bob2, iBook G4 |
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| 16:54.39 | marstewel | any update on security.d.o because of it's slow networking speed ? |
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| 16:54.48 | valdyn | silentigger: maxosx isnt so bad |
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| 16:55.06 | bob2 | silentigger: you can use mac os x, or you can get a usb wireless adapter |
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| 16:55.15 | silentigger | Linux cold 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Sun Mar 20 14:09:41 CET 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 16:55.17 | bob2 | silentigger: they're your wireless options now |
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| 16:55.47 | jharrisonwk | jass: no problem |
| 16:56.07 | jharrisonwk | jass: I do this every day |
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| 16:56.16 | silentigger | bob2, no func. |
| 16:56.27 | jaaro | do any official backports of php5 exist? |
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| 16:56.32 | jharrisonwk | jass: in the phpinfo output make sure you look for mysql sections so you know mysql integration with php works |
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| 16:56.39 | bob2 | silentigger: ? |
| 16:56.41 | jaaro | I mean backports for sarge. |
| 16:56.45 | silentigger | bob2, dont have support |
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| 16:57.02 | bob2 | silentigger: broadcom nics do not have linux drivers, correct |
| 16:57.08 | bob2 | wireless, anyway |
| 16:57.18 | silentigger | bob2, correct |
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| 16:57.41 | stew | jaaro: no |
| 16:57.42 | silentigger | bob2, no device |
| 16:57.45 | jharrisonwk | stew: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/153924.shtml?5day?large |
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| 16:58.13 | bob2 | silentigger: I have no idea what you're trying to say now |
| 16:58.17 | jharrisonwk | stew: she is turning towards my island |
| 16:58.26 | Liroy | Is it possible to disable a user from SSH Access? |
| 16:58.27 | stew | jharrisonwk: yeah i was looking at those maps last night |
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| 16:58.39 | bob2 | Liroy: yes, man sshd_config |
| 16:58.40 | jharrisonwk | stew: I gots enough water for 3 weeks |
| 16:58.49 | bob2 | Liroy: AllowUSer or so |
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| 16:58.56 | Eulex | jharrisonwk, you're on r? must have been lotsa hurricanes this year |
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| 16:59.14 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: r? |
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| 16:59.34 | mlewis00 | To upgrade from Sarge to Etch is it sufficient to just change the lines containing 'sarge' to 'etch' and do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? |
| 16:59.40 | gozz | Eulex i can see where it is trying to install a sony cdu-535 but it says no drive found |
| 16:59.43 | jharrisonwk | mlewis00: yes |
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| 16:59.58 | darkness1 | Liroy: I guess change the hosts.allow file. |
| 17:00.00 | thingfish | provided you do an apt-get update in between. |
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| 17:00.15 | jharrisonwk | mlewis00: consider aptitude |
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| 17:00.26 | Eulex | jharrisonwk, doesn't the first one each year get a name that begins with "A", the next one a name that begins with "B" etc? |
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| 17:00.57 | mlewis00 | jharrisonwk: Thanks...I noticed that I forgot to say that I was going to change the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list :( |
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| 17:01.18 | Liroy | bob2: Thanks, can't find AllowUser or anything close to that. |
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| 17:01.40 | jass | how do I find out my mysql version? |
| 17:01.45 | silentigger | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.59 | mlewis00 | jharrisonwk: I prefer apt from the command line or dselect myself...is aptitude better for doing a dist-upgrade? |
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| 17:02.07 | bob2 | Liroy: perhaps it's only in 4.0 |
| 17:02.11 | fbi | AllowUsers This keyword can be followed by a list of user name patterns, separated by spaces. |
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| 17:02.40 | Eulex | gozz, exactly what does it say when it tries to detect that cd? and use paster to paste it |
| 17:02.44 | Eulex | !tell gozz about paster |
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| 17:03.58 | Graviton | Hmm, is it just my connection or is debian.org extremely slow? |
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| 17:04.07 | jharrisonwk | mlewis00: aptitude is better in general |
| 17:04.15 | Eulex | Graviton, are you talking about security.debian.org? |
| 17:04.25 | Graviton | No, www.debian.org |
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| 17:05.07 | mlewis00 | jharrisonwk: Hmmm...OK, thanks again. I'm going to do the dist-upgrade and see what happens :-) |
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| 17:05.25 | bob2 | Graviton: which is the same machine as security.debian.org |
| 17:05.30 | Graviton | Hmm, www.de.debian.org works fine |
| 17:05.38 | Graviton | Oh, didn't know that |
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| 17:05.53 | Graviton | Guess it's that machine, then |
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| 17:07.08 | jharrisonwk | mlewis00: should not have problems |
| 17:07.13 | gozz | i pasted it to the bot |
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| 17:07.41 | mlewis00 | jharrisonwk: Thanks...bye... |
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| 17:09.00 | Eulex | bob2, maybe the notice then should read that debian.org is having problems instead? |
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| 17:09.39 | bob2 | yeah, good point |
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| 17:10.03 | pwned | what is happening to kde3.3 in debian testing? |
| 17:10.06 | gozz | i guess i did that wrong |
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| 17:10.55 | jharrisonwk | pwned: what do you mean? |
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| 17:11.09 | pwned | jharrisonwk: kde packages started disappearing. Like kdevelop3, kxkb |
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| 17:11.14 | sts | hello folks |
| 17:11.26 | jharrisonwk | pwned: hhmmm better go to #debian-kde |
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| 17:12.00 | jharrisonwk | pwned: I can tell you this though. Some kde packages (kdegraphics) for example depend on the kdelibs in sid |
| 17:12.14 | jharrisonwk | pwned: which caused me problems this morning when I was downgrading |
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| 17:12.20 | pwned | and sid is undergoing a change |
| 17:12.21 | jharrisonwk | pwned: but I worked around it and got it straight |
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| 17:12.29 | jharrisonwk | pwned: sid is getting kde 3.4 |
| 17:12.39 | jharrisonwk | pwned: but it is complete for the most part |
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| 17:12.49 | jharrisonwk | pwned: has been for about a week or so I guess |
| 17:13.13 | sts | I'm heaving probs with my debian (apache 2.0.54-5/php 4.3.10-16/horde3/2) installation: whenever i try to load the horde site ... my browser actually gets nothing and apache logs: /usr/sbin/apache2: relocation error: /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_sprintf |
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| 17:13.24 | pwned | I tried getting my stuff from sid repository, but some vital packages were missing |
| 17:13.29 | sts | is there a way to work around this issue? |
| 17:13.37 | jass | more problems, this time with mysql, how do I set the root password for mysql, I just installed it |
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| 17:13.56 | jharrisonwk | pwned: if you revert back like I did you will probably have problems |
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| 17:14.10 | jharrisonwk | pwned: were you running etch with kde from sid? |
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| 17:14.31 | pwned | jharrisonwk: no not all of it. I traced back my steps. Hardest part was with the qt libraries |
| 17:14.32 | sts | jass: use mysqladmin password 'yourpassword' |
| 17:14.39 | pwned | now I am with 3.3 on etch |
| 17:14.42 | pwned | like it was before |
| 17:14.56 | jharrisonwk | pwned: and any problems? |
| 17:14.58 | pwned | nope |
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| 17:15.02 | jharrisonwk | pwned: ok good |
| 17:15.15 | TwistedEmotions | What packages do I need again to install and run fluxbox? |
| 17:15.27 | jharrisonwk | TwistedEmotions: aptitude install fluxbox? |
| 17:15.27 | jass | sts: thanks |
| 17:15.29 | DoppelGanger | :) |
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| 17:15.34 | jharrisonwk | DoppelGanger! |
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| 17:15.43 | Eulex | TwistedEmotions, and x-window-system |
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| 17:15.46 | TwistedEmotions | sorry.. I meant what packages do I need to install xorg |
| 17:15.52 | DoppelGanger | GOD |
| 17:15.58 | DoppelGanger | i mean jharrisonwk he he |
| 17:16.00 | jharrisonwk | TwistedEmotions: aptitude install x-window-system? |
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| 17:16.22 | TwistedEmotions | jharrisonwk: that will install it all? |
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| 17:16.35 | Eulex | TwistedEmotions, yes, if you're on testing |
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| 17:16.43 | TwistedEmotions | Eulex: unstable |
| 17:16.43 | jharrisonwk | TwistedEmotions: you running etch? |
| 17:16.45 | gozz | Eulex did i do that correct? |
| 17:16.48 | jharrisonwk | TwistedEmotions: or sid |
| 17:16.53 | jharrisonwk | TwistedEmotions: then yes it will install it all |
| 17:16.58 | TwistedEmotions | kk thanks |
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| 17:17.05 | Eulex | TwistedEmotions, ya, and sid too |
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| 17:17.30 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: r? |
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| 17:17.45 | silentigger | BCM4306 Airport is bad? |
| 17:17.47 | silentigger | BCM4306 Airport is bad |
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| 17:17.53 | jharrisonwk | DoppelGanger: what do you mean you mean jharrisonwk? |
| 17:18.08 | jharrisonwk | silentigger: what? |
| 17:18.16 | Eulex | jharrisonwk, *R*ita |
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| 17:18.47 | Eulex | gozz, doesn't seem so |
| 17:18.49 | sts | what package provides mod_php? |
| 17:18.51 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: ahhhh |
| 17:19.02 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: im not on rita |
| 17:19.15 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: rita is almost on me :-P |
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| 17:19.48 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: yes we are on r though |
| 17:19.51 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
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| 17:20.39 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: its a healthy hurricane season |
| 17:20.39 | Eulex | jharrisonwk, that's what I meant |
| 17:20.56 | Eulex | heh, ok |
| 17:21.00 | TwistedEmotions | Fuck... it's installing a bunch of stable packages ;P Knew I should have pciked manual package installation |
| 17:21.01 | Eulex | lutin_triste, you're on sarge |
| 17:21.02 | pwned | I don't get why etch gets directly effected by sid. Too bad it was impossible for me to stay with sarge. |
| 17:21.03 | jharrisonwk | Eulex: soon they will be hurricane alpha, beta, etc... |
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| 17:21.43 | bob2 | sts: for what version of apache? |
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| 17:21.50 | sts | bob2: 2 |
| 17:21.56 | gozz | says my paste number is 740 |
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| 17:22.46 | bob2 | sts: libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 17:22.57 | samuel | hello all |
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| 17:23.18 | pwned | you know, all these join/parts are from turkey. |
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| 17:23.34 | Ronin | nope dont see them anymore pwned |
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| 17:24.54 | pwned | and it is the work of one moron |
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| 17:25.27 | Ronin | pwned: bill gates? |
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| 17:25.35 | pwned | Ronin: bill gates isn't turkish afaik |
| 17:25.51 | abrotman | azeem: i didn't realize it was for planet.d.n |
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| 17:26.02 | philsnow | Eulex, stew, thanks for your help |
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| 17:26.12 | thingfish | attacks like this should be illegal. |
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| 17:26.38 | v3 | hello all |
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| 17:27.00 | pwned | if you ban turkey it will stop (= |
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| 17:27.26 | jharrisonwk | pwned: cant ban ALL of turkey |
| 17:27.28 | jass | exit |
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| 17:27.35 | cahoot | pwned: you believe in collective punushment? |
| 17:27.50 | cahoot | pwned: punishment |
| 17:27.53 | streuner | !nospambots |
| 17:27.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less, or change timeout to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds |
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| 17:28.13 | gozz | Eulex when i boot from the webinst cd it it uses the drive fine is that not the same kernel? |
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| 17:29.01 | Eulex | gozz, no |
| 17:29.10 | Eulex | gozz, btw, what kernel are you running? |
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| 17:29.19 | jass | exit |
| 17:29.21 | Ronin | jass: sure you can, its over kill but certainly effective |
| 17:29.22 | jass | exit |
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| 17:29.51 | jass | Ronin: what? |
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| 17:30.19 | Ronin | oops sorry jaaro , damn tab key i meant jharrisonwk |
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| 17:30.30 | gozz | 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 17:30.59 | Eulex | upgrade to 2.6, it has better compatibility with stuff |
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| 17:34.16 | fken | hello I need the alsa onliner |
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| 17:34.33 | SerajewelKS | is there a command to display the DPI of my running X server? |
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| 17:34.38 | streuner | fken: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 17:34.57 | Eulex | fken, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf (as root) |
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| 17:35.34 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: for the fonts? |
| 17:36.05 | fken | Eulex: are you sure your command line will install my SB live 7.1 driver ? |
| 17:36.06 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, well, i guess. the X server has a DPI.. i want to know what it is. simple as that. |
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| 17:36.25 | Eulex | fken, no, but you asked for the one-liner |
| 17:36.26 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: check your X config file, whichever set of dpi fonts is loaded first (75 or 100) is what it's set to |
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| 17:37.11 | fken | Eulex: ok... i installed the official alsa drivers and even if it works i sometimes have lag and sound issue |
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| 17:37.23 | fken | Eulex: Ill reinstall debian |
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| 17:38.08 | fken | Eulex: but i really want it to be the very last time i install debian on my computer for this year |
| 17:38.08 | Eulex | fken, what driver does it use? |
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| 17:38.27 | fken | Eulex: the very last ones downloaded from alsa.com |
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| 17:38.56 | fken | Eulex: ho sorry : the Audigy LS one ... snd_ca0106 |
| 17:39.01 | brett | hey is packages.debian.org down? |
| 17:39.05 | Eulex | fken, I mean, what alsa driver? snd-ca0106 |
| 17:39.09 | Eulex | !topicsmite brett |
| 17:39.09 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon brett. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 17:39.17 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, there's no way to find out? gimp can find out... |
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| 17:39.50 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: everytime i tell you what the answer is, you tell me that i'm wrong. why? |
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| 17:40.22 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, xdpyinfo shows it |
| 17:40.23 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, i'm not saying you're wrong, i just figured there was a more direct way to get the answer from the server |
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| 17:40.55 | fken | Eulex: alsa 1.0.9b with snd-ca0106 module |
| 17:41.03 | Eulex | fken, heh, ok |
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| 17:41.14 | Eulex | fken, googled for your problem? |
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| 17:41.25 | fken | Eulex: which release is installed by debian ? |
| 17:41.30 | Eulex | fken, also, reinstalling debian is unlikely to solve the problem |
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| 17:41.43 | Eulex | fken, apt-cache police alsa-base |
| 17:42.05 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: i can only convey what i actually know, and i know that it's correct. if there's a more direct method, i wish i knew what it was too. xdpyinfo doesn't seem to show it... |
| 17:42.10 | SerajewelKS | Eulex, yeah that was it |
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| 17:42.27 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, it does.. xdpyinfo | grep -i dots |
| 17:42.27 | Gnea | it was? |
| 17:42.35 | flawd | how do I get framebuffer to work? Do I have to recompile the kernel? |
| 17:42.41 | Gnea | oh sweet |
| 17:42.49 | fken | Eulex: i know it but i think i have too much problem/ no operation police available |
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| 17:42.53 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, yeah i grepped for -i dpi first |
| 17:42.59 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: in consider myself corrected then :) |
| 17:43.03 | scx | this is #debian |
| 17:43.04 | Gnea | s/in/i/ |
| 17:43.04 | Eulex | fken, what? |
| 17:43.08 | Gnea | Eulex: thanks |
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| 17:43.10 | scx | Hello there debianitas ! |
| 17:43.10 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, no you were right.. i just didn't want to poke around in my config |
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| 17:43.18 | Eulex | Gnea, np |
| 17:43.25 | fken | Eulex: posseidon:/home/fken# apt-cache police alsa-base |
| 17:43.25 | fken | E: L'opération police n'est pas valable |
| 17:43.29 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
| 17:43.30 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it's all good |
| 17:43.36 | Heimidal | anyone have any clue how to deal with this? code: Bad EIP value <0> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 17:43.43 | Eulex | fken, ah, sorry, policy, not police |
| 17:43.55 | Heimidal | Not on a custom kernel, only modifications to installation were installing PHP and Ruby |
| 17:43.56 | sts | does anybody know anything about apache2/php4/mysql and this error: /usr/sbin/apache2: relocation error: /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_sprintf? |
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| 17:44.17 | sts | i'm using sarge |
| 17:44.19 | nkuttler | sts: google it |
| 17:44.25 | Eulex | lutin_triste, what are you trying to ask? |
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| 17:45.05 | flawd | how do I get framebuffer to work? Do I have to recompile the kernel? Or does the Sarge kernels provide framebuffer support? |
| 17:45.18 | fken | Eulex: and my /dev/dsp is everytime busy |
| 17:45.20 | sts | nkuttler: i did, but i haven't found anything usefully to me |
| 17:45.33 | Eulex | flawd, yes, what type of framebuffer? |
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| 17:45.43 | Eulex | fken, then something's busying it |
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| 17:46.31 | SerajewelKS | Gnea, didn't we get in a cat fight the other night? |
| 17:46.32 | fken | Eulex:but what ? / BTW, module-assistant is everytime saying me alsa is bad installed |
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| 17:46.34 | Eulex | fken, two programs cannot access /dev/dsp at the same time |
| 17:46.40 | flawd | Eulex, I was thinking this: "791 sets the console to 1024x768 with 64,000 colors." Atm using vga=6 |
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| 17:46.59 | fken | Eulex: how does a games play sound then ? |
| 17:47.05 | flawd | Eulex, I havn't tried vga=791 yet as I wanted to check if I need to recompile to get it to work before doing so |
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| 17:47.23 | Eulex | fken, why aren't you using the alsa that comes with debian? |
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| 17:47.37 | Eulex | flawd, it'll work, if your gfx card supports vesa vbe 2.0 |
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| 17:47.43 | Eulex | iirc |
| 17:47.52 | flawd | Eulex, Ok I will try :) Will be back here soon if not |
| 17:47.52 | flawd | ty |
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| 17:48.07 | fken | Eulex: because of the debian policy with testing kernels ... alsa drivers were impossible to install because of their stupidity |
| 17:48.08 | kenboo | flawd, rdev |
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| 17:48.26 | sts | i mean i'm using stable, installed apache2/php-mysql and i'm not even able to use it... |
| 17:48.27 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: did we? i forgot |
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| 17:48.29 | sts | :(( |
| 17:48.45 | Eulex | fken, ah, conflicts with what kernel? |
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| 17:48.47 | fken | Eulex: a compatibility problem between gcc4.0 and the kernels which were all compiled with gcc3.4 |
| 17:49.02 | Eulex | fken, works fine here |
| 17:49.05 | nkuttler | sts: iirc you have to change something in php.conf |
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| 17:49.18 | fken | Eulex: eveything are ok today concerning the kernel... but its too late : i installed alsa drivers |
| 17:49.20 | sts | nkuttler: ? |
| 17:49.21 | fbi | fken: why not just run a testing 2.6 kernel, you won't need alsa-modules |
| 17:49.29 | eeyore- | oh that's another reason to recompile debian kernel :) add/remove support for certain framebuffers (esp. if you want boot-time framebuffer, not wanting to stare at text-mode before it's switched into graphics mode) |
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| 17:49.40 | nkuttler | sts: php.ini |
| 17:49.40 | sts | nkuttler: phpinfo() not even shows up any php modules |
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| 17:49.56 | fken | fbi: posseidon:/home/fken# uname -a |
| 17:49.56 | fken | Linux posseidon 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 #1 Thu Sep 8 03:06:11 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:49.56 | sts | s/php/mysql/ |
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| 17:50.05 | fbi | ah. |
| 17:50.14 | eeyore- | fken: if you compile anything with gcc4, expect it to break. what's the problem here? |
| 17:50.20 | Eulex | aaaaaah, sometimes I wish I could do sudo /etc/init.d/drummer stop -- both my dad and my two brothers play drums |
| 17:50.39 | nkuttler | sts: read the php.ini file |
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| 17:50.54 | sts | $ grep mysql.so /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini |
| 17:50.54 | eeyore- | Eulex: unplug :) replace the fuse ... there are ways |
| 17:51.01 | sts | extension=mysql.so |
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| 17:51.14 | Eulex | eeyore-, I said drums |
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| 17:51.26 | eeyore- | Eulex: i see, not electronic kind :) |
| 17:51.26 | fken | eeyore-: ? why ? hmmm my problem is that only alsa llast drivers (not the debian's ones) work... but when it works it isnt a very nice job |
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| 17:51.41 | Eulex | eeyore-, you ever heard |
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| 17:51.54 | eeyore- | Eulex: sorry, i thought synth and drum machines :) |
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| 17:52.00 | nkuttler | sts: hm... did you restart apache? i thought i had that error some weeks ago. |
| 17:52.03 | fken | Eulex: so have you an advice ? |
| 17:52.10 | Eulex | eeyore-, ah, ok, sorry, discard reply above |
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| 17:52.35 | sts | nkuttler: sure |
| 17:52.38 | flawd | Eulex, Didn't work. Said adapter is VESA VGA. I got i815e (i810) chipset |
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| 17:52.48 | Eulex | fken, install alsa-base and alsa-utils and a debian kernel -- it *does* work well |
| 17:52.54 | eeyore- | flawd: there is separate driver for i81x frame buffer |
| 17:52.59 | flawd | Eulex, it gave me vga=6 as biggest mode |
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| 17:53.03 | eeyore- | flawd: AFAIK, vesafb won't drive the i81x chips |
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| 17:53.21 | eeyore- | flawd: but, my recollection is based on a cheap celeron with i815, so it might not be true today |
| 17:53.22 | sts | nkuttler: check your logs...did your really had the same error? |
| 17:53.25 | Eulex | flawd, ah, i810 doesn't support vesa 2.0 -- I know because I own an old compaq with almost the same chipset |
| 17:53.34 | sbk | Heimidal: don't know the answer to your question, but curious... I take it you had a working installation, then added those two things you mention, and then rebooted the machine, and encountered this? |
| 17:53.36 | flawd | eeyore-, oh? How do I get more info about it? And to still my curiousity, can it do like 1024x768 with that driver? |
| 17:53.37 | fken | Eulex: written already installed |
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| 17:53.48 | TwistedEmotions | wtf @ debian-overflow ;P |
| 17:53.49 | eeyore- | flawd: use different framebuffer. look for the i18x |
| 17:54.04 | Eulex | fken, apt-get --reinstall them, if you compiled something else yourself |
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| 17:54.36 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: where you go sometimes |
| 17:54.38 | flawd | eeyore-, I'll have to admit I'm confused about all this. It is a kernel module or what is it? |
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| 17:54.47 | sts | nkuttler: maybe you could tell me what versions are installed |
| 17:55.00 | sts | s/are/where/? |
| 17:55.04 | sts | were |
| 17:55.06 | sts | arr |
| 17:55.16 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: I know.. just saying im getting kicked there left and right... wondering if spam bots are on attack again. |
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| 17:55.24 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: yes |
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| 17:55.26 | Eulex | flawd, the vesafb driver will never work with your card, however, there might be an fb driver for intel cards |
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| 17:55.43 | flawd | Eulex, yeah eeyore- tipped me :) |
| 17:55.44 | flawd | ty |
| 17:56.00 | Eulex | yw |
| 17:56.02 | fken | Eulex: strangely debian installed the alsa-utils (1.0.9a-4) |
| 17:56.09 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
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| 17:56.14 | eeyore- | flawd: it's easier if you would just rebuild the kernel, "make menuconfig", and look in the appropriate section (the section that you see vesafb), you'll see the right name, the right syntax to use, etc. |
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| 17:56.57 | Eulex | eeyore-, to do that he doesn't have to rebuild the kernel, right? |
| 17:56.59 | jill | liable |
| 17:57.00 | eeyore- | flawd: which kernel do you use? i'm 2.6.14 |
| 17:57.02 | flawd | eeyore-, I see. So I have to recompile the kernel to get that driver. It is included in the kernel source though? |
| 17:57.03 | Heimidal | sbk: yes, that's the case. |
| 17:57.08 | nkuttler | sts: the logs are gone, but appararently it was a different issue, sorry |
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| 17:57.14 | fken | fken: it seems to be the same as the ones i had |
| 17:57.16 | TwistedEmotions | What is the command to reconfigure x settings again? |
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| 17:57.23 | Eulex | flawd, ouch. that might be your problem |
| 17:57.25 | fken | eulex : |
| 17:57.28 | eeyore- | Eulex: no, but at least he will see the right module, etc. (he *might* have to build it if it's modular, and he wants gfx mode very very early) |
| 17:57.34 | flawd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:57.38 | jill | how do enter pass word for user i forgot |
| 17:57.38 | Heimidal | sbk: it arrived at our new datacenter, was working fine for a day, and when they went to reboot it this error came up. |
| 17:57.45 | flawd | sorry |
| 17:57.49 | flawd | eeyore-, 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 17:57.49 | Eulex | eeyore-, yep |
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| 17:57.55 | nkuttler | jill: become root and change it |
| 17:57.56 | eeyore- | flawd: you only need to recompile if (a) it's not selected, or (b) it's selected modular and you want gfx mode very early |
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| 17:58.05 | jill | i mean on irc |
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| 17:58.19 | Eulex | flawd, sorry, though it was you who were on 2.6.14, which would probably explain your problem |
| 17:58.23 | nkuttler | jill: /msg nickserv help |
| 17:58.37 | flawd | eeyore-, you mean if it is not "selected" in the source of the kernel I am running? |
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| 17:58.58 | sbk | Heimidal: by any chance, did they upgrade the bios or something when they rebooted it? Or change any kernel bootup options? |
| 17:59.03 | Eulex | flawd, yes |
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| 17:59.13 | flawd | Eulex, nods |
| 17:59.19 | jill | . msg /nickserv help |
| 17:59.23 | fken | module assistant said me that /usr/src/alsa-drivers-1.0.9-b contains unconfigured kernel sources |
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| 17:59.41 | flawd | well if it was selected then I would notice it allready no? |
| 17:59.42 | sbk | Heimidal: or add any memory... any hardware changes? :-) |
| 17:59.44 | flawd | then it would work? |
| 17:59.46 | eeyore- | flawd: i'm not on a debian machine right now and i can't tell you what's in, or not in, 2.6.8-2-686. one of the ways to check is if you would just go into the kernel source tree, run "make menuconfig". the other, less obvious, ways, is the read /boot/config-* file for your kernel. |
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| 18:00.04 | eeyore- | flawd: the third way is to boot it and see if it works, or not. |
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| 18:00.18 | eeyore- | flawd: i'm asking you to do the sane way (make menuconfig), but you don't have to do that if it confuses you. |
| 18:00.20 | Eulex | fken, you don't have to compile it |
| 18:00.24 | flawd | yeah well I can not go beyond vga mode 6 |
| 18:00.26 | eeyore- | flawd: you can try to boot it and see if it works |
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| 18:00.33 | flawd | so it is likely not in there |
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| 18:00.43 | Eulex | flawd, if you're on testing you could test installing 2.6.11 |
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| 18:00.52 | fken | Eulex: its automatically written when i enter module-assistant |
| 18:00.52 | flawd | Eulex, sarge |
| 18:00.56 | eeyore- | flawd: besides, you *don't* use vga= syntax for i810 chipsets |
| 18:01.03 | flawd | eeyore-, oh? |
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| 18:01.25 | linuxuser84 | hi |
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| 18:01.41 | Heimidal | sbk: it was rebooted because, since it wasn't on the network, they shut it down overnight. they made no changes. |
| 18:01.47 | eeyore- | flawd: you now use video=...:1024x768-<depth>@<refresh>, I *THINK*. that's why you need to look at the "help" for the specific driver, now, do you understand why i'm not giving you step-by-step instruction? |
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| 18:01.54 | Eulex | fken, you.don't.have.to.compile.it.use.the.prebuilt. |
| 18:01.57 | linuxuser84 | I have this computer setup for ipmasq forwarding my dialup to my other pc, it was working fine then it just stoped |
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| 18:02.17 | linuxuser84 | now I can ping this pc and back but I can't ping to the net |
| 18:02.39 | Eulex | fken, btw, the important part of it is in the kernel, not in the user-space tools |
| 18:02.43 | flawd | eeyore-, I do. Thank you. You have been most helpful. (So have you Eulex). I'm going to check the kernel source and help for that driver now. Thank you very much |
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| 18:03.06 | fken | Eulex: All i want is that module-assistant stop to tell me that it isnt compiled or anything like that |
| 18:03.16 | TwistedEmotions | anyone know when setting up a powerbook... what input I use for mouse? it sais '/dev/input/mice' but that doesnt work |
| 18:03.36 | vir3 | i am trying to create a no-network network with debian and osx and a crossover cable ... |
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| 18:03.51 | sbk | Heimidal: ah, ok. sorry -- not much to suggest other than what you might pick up via google. Any preceding errors might have clues, perhaps. (It seems to me (via google)) that you might have a stack trace where it is bombing. |
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| 18:03.55 | eeyore- | vir3: no problem there |
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| 18:04.04 | fbi | TwistedEmotions: if it's a touchpad you could try /dev/psaux |
| 18:04.06 | jill | does any one use clam av |
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| 18:04.13 | jill | how do i update it |
| 18:04.14 | vir3 | i have just plugged in the ethernet card and discover reports the card . how do i get debain to load the drivers ? |
| 18:04.17 | eeyore- | vir3: just because you don't have a hub/switch doesn't mean you don't have "no network" :) |
| 18:04.17 | linuxuser84 | can someone help pleae? |
| 18:04.20 | Eulex | fken, why are you running module-assistant? |
| 18:04.25 | linuxuser84 | I have this computer setup for ipmasq forwarding my dialup to my other pc, it was working fine then it just stoped |
| 18:04.27 | linuxuser84 | now I can ping this pc and back but I can't ping to the net |
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| 18:04.38 | Eulex | !tell linuxuser84 about repeat |
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| 18:04.49 | eeyore- | vir3: if you run hotplug, it should be automatic. if not, load the module yourself "modprobe ...." <- replace with proper driver name |
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| 18:05.07 | vir3 | eeyore-: tnx let me try that |
| 18:05.08 | linuxuser84 | please hlep |
| 18:05.22 | fken | Eulex: some people adviced me to use module assistant to install nvidia drivers... today its done and i dont need module assistant but im still wondering how to fixe that issue |
| 18:05.29 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
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| 18:05.40 | linuxuser84 | I think some persome hacked me :( |
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| 18:05.52 | Thaiger | Can anyone help me get ASP working with apache? I installed libapache-asp-perl, but I still just see source. I wasn't sure if I had to add something to my modules.conf or not |
| 18:05.57 | Eulex | fken, ah, it tells you that whatever command line options you give to m-a? |
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| 18:06.29 | fken | Eulex: I dont remember |
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| 18:06.33 | Heimidal | sbk: never really dealt with tracing things before :P |
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| 18:07.15 | Eulex | fken, when you remember, please google for it |
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| 18:07.25 | eeyore- | Heimidal: sounds like a bad bios |
| 18:07.52 | vir3 | eeyore-: ok i have loaded eepro100 module for Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] |
| 18:07.57 | Heimidal | eeyore-: even though things were working fine two days ago? |
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| 18:08.29 | asg | SimonRaven: that has to be the best tab-completion faux pas I've ever seen :) |
| 18:08.31 | eeyore- | Heimidal: could be ... |
| 18:08.36 | Heimidal | hrm |
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| 18:08.47 | eeyore- | Heimidal: have you tried powering it down completely, wait about a minute or so and restart? |
| 18:08.47 | EfreeT | test |
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| 18:08.52 | fken | Eulex: why? hmmm I am not very sure I got what you said finally... |
| 18:08.53 | eeyore- | Heimidal: what kind of server is this? |
| 18:08.57 | vir3 | eeyore-: what else do i need to do to get this working ? crossover cable plus osx and debain .... |
| 18:09.16 | eeyore- | vi3: you just have to set the IP/netmask/broadcast appropriately on both sides |
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| 18:09.19 | NS-Sensenmann | i need help installing Debain @ Hppa... my boot cd won'T boot. i get some problems... can someguy please help me? |
| 18:09.20 | DaMonk | Hi, I'm trying to install debian sarge on my laptop, an asus s5a, with an external cd/dvd drive, however it can only boot to the setup menu, and there it says it cannot mount my cd/dvd drive, how can I solve this? |
| 18:09.23 | EfreeT | they're many personn Oo |
| 18:09.29 | EfreeT | im french :x |
| 18:09.31 | EfreeT | xD |
| 18:09.39 | eeyore- | vir3: and maybe optionally add the hostname/ip pairs in /etc/hosts files on both sides, in case you want to use NFS |
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| 18:10.14 | Eulex | fken, m-a gives you an error whatever command line options you give it? |
| 18:10.15 | eeyore- | DaMonk: USB cdrom? |
| 18:10.19 | vir3 | eeyore-: tnx let me give it a shot |
| 18:10.19 | asg | !tell EfreeT about fr |
| 18:10.25 | DaMonk | eeyore- YES .. :) |
| 18:10.26 | EfreeT | Oo |
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| 18:10.29 | EfreeT | what |
| 18:10.35 | Eulex | DaMonk, tried both kernels? |
| 18:10.43 | fken | Eulex: "# module-assistant" is enough |
| 18:10.46 | EfreeT | no it's cool :) |
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| 18:10.59 | Eulex | fken, google for the error |
| 18:11.06 | DaMonk | Eulex uhm, I fetched a netinstall cd, I guess there's only one kernel on that? |
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| 18:11.21 | eeyore- | DaMonk: try installing from inside knoppix or something. i *don't* know if debian installers like usb cd/dvd as the boot media |
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| 18:11.29 | Eulex | DaMonk, there are two |
| 18:11.42 | unperson | Anyone had success installing Mathematica on their Debian system? |
| 18:11.44 | Eulex | DaMonk, kernel24 vs kernel26 at boot prompt |
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| 18:12.08 | Heimidal | eeyore-: no, I haven't tried that because the box isn't sitting in front of me. it's a 1U P4 2.26 w/ 512MB RAM. |
| 18:12.12 | NeverDream | does anyone in here know which Sarge CD the kernel source is on? |
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| 18:12.26 | DaMonk | Eulex and I should use kernel26 right? |
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| 18:12.31 | eeyore- | Heimidal: compaq? |
| 18:12.39 | NS-Sensenmann | What meens if before the setup a message is on the screen like "Kernel Panic: No init found" |
| 18:12.47 | Eulex | DaMonk, try that -- kernel24 is the default |
| 18:12.53 | eeyore- | NS-Sensenmann: you have no /sbin/init |
| 18:12.55 | Heimidal | eeyore-: custom-built by us |
| 18:12.57 | EfreeT | and , the subject is ? |
| 18:12.57 | EfreeT | :x |
| 18:12.58 | EfreeT | xD |
| 18:13.00 | stew | NeverDream: 13 |
| 18:13.12 | Heimidal | we've used the same hardware in hundreds of other servers |
| 18:13.12 | DaMonk | Eulex it says: could not find kernel image: kernel26 |
| 18:13.18 | eeyore- | Heimidal: at the very least, try resetting bios to "safe defaults", see if it boots then. |
| 18:13.27 | eeyore- | Heimidal: and if it works, continue tweaking the bios :) |
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| 18:13.29 | Eulex | DaMonk, hmm, I'm almost sure it's there |
| 18:13.31 | vincenz | Hello |
| 18:13.35 | NS-Sensenmann | Eulex but... it's the install.... i can't acess to the shell or something... |
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| 18:13.40 | DaMonk | Eulex how can i search for it? |
| 18:13.42 | fken | Eulex: only one result and its useless |
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| 18:14.15 | vincenz | This question is a bit OT, but I think linux users might answer it better than windows user. My desktop at home is debian, my laptop is linux. How do I launch a debian app remotely so I can look at it from on my windows machine (a gui app that is) |
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| 18:14.43 | Eulex | DaMonk, ah, it's linux26, not kernel26 |
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| 18:14.50 | ircops | vincenz: debian IS linux |
| 18:14.55 | Gathond | vincenz: install an X server and ssh client on the windows box, then use X11 forwarding |
| 18:14.56 | eeyore- | Heimidal: hey, if auto manufacturers can have build variations between millions of autos they build, surely, a motherboard maker is allowed to have variations in the boards they make, too. (that was in reference to "we use same hardware in hundreds of other servers") |
| 18:14.57 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 18:15.09 | EfreeT | LoRez ^^" |
| 18:15.10 | unperson | vincenz: That or use VNC. |
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| 18:15.40 | Eulex | NS-Sensenmann, that means that the kernel doesn't support your filesystem or hard drive, and it's likely that you've compiled your own kernel |
| 18:15.43 | eeyore- | vincenz: money? |
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| 18:16.04 | vincenz | Gathond: yes but my laptop is windows...so ... |
| 18:16.06 | DaMonk | Eulex yeah, now something seems to happen |
| 18:16.08 | liberfiasco | Anyone knows of a debian based livecd that can install on hard disk and has a toolchain for compiling? |
| 18:16.10 | vincenz | eeyore-: preferably not |
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| 18:16.21 | Gathond | vincenz: so? it still applies |
| 18:16.22 | eeyore- | vincenz: then you don't have a choice. vnc. free. |
| 18:16.29 | vincenz | ok, thnx |
| 18:16.33 | vincenz | Gathond: yes but you need something to VIEW it with |
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| 18:16.39 | eeyore- | vincenz: or, get the (old) free X server for windows. it's pretty old, though. forgot who makes it. |
| 18:16.46 | Gathond | vincenz: you can get X servers on windows |
| 18:16.54 | mwilson | MI/X |
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| 18:16.58 | eeyore- | Gathond: only one choice for free |
| 18:17.00 | vincenz | and how do I allow it? It used to work on mandrake, but apparently debian choose not to allow it by default |
| 18:17.02 | mwilson | Or M/IX, I forget which. |
| 18:17.05 | Eulex | liberfiasco, why not install the real debian instead? I never understood why people want to install a live-cd... |
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| 18:17.09 | vincenz | (forwarding that is) |
| 18:17.11 | Gathond | vincenz: that allows you to remotely launch any X program just at between to linux machines |
| 18:17.19 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
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| 18:17.22 | Gathond | eeyore-: cygwin includes XFree86 and X.org |
| 18:17.24 | mwilson | eeyore-: There are at least two. |
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| 18:17.37 | vincenz | Gathond: yip, used to have xmanager but it failed for some reason, though it might have to do with allowing forwarding |
| 18:17.37 | erf | How do I kill a process by name? |
| 18:17.44 | stew | erf: pkill name |
| 18:17.52 | erf | Excellent |
| 18:17.52 | liberfiasco | Eulex, I'm on dial up and can't download full CDs.. |
| 18:17.54 | vincenz | xauth something? |
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| 18:18.04 | Gathond | erf: note there might be more than one process having the same "name" |
| 18:18.09 | silentigger | bob2, http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2003-17/0408.html |
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| 18:18.20 | Heimidal | eeyore-: oh, I know. the company I'm with builds these things for a living... we're used to problems. |
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| 18:18.42 | NS-Sensenmann | is Laughing Out Loud |
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| 18:18.56 | azeem | abrotman: hrm |
| 18:18.59 | azeem | abrotman: 16:39 < azeem> is that ok (will hit PlanetDebian though) |
| 18:19.04 | vincenz | how do I allow X11 forwarding? |
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| 18:19.16 | fken | so see ya all |
| 18:19.17 | psykok | hallo , can anyone explain me something with w-lan in german? |
| 18:19.21 | abrotman | azeem: thought that was different than planet.d.n :) .. it's ok really .. damog has quoted me for worse stuff :) |
| 18:19.26 | azeem | heh |
| 18:19.32 | Eulex | liberfiasco, then order it -- btw, you wouldn't want to d/l a live-cd on dial-up either |
| 18:19.40 | abrotman | many worse things |
| 18:19.40 | eeyore- | Gathond: oh right, forgot cygwin :) |
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| 18:19.46 | NS-Sensenmann | psykok jo... was kann ich tun? |
| 18:19.48 | eeyore- | Gathond: X.org now runs on windows? |
| 18:21.00 | eeyore- | oh, duh. *plonk* head |
| 18:21.01 | Eulex | !tell psykok about de |
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| 18:21.01 | Gathond | eeyore-: the last cygwin I installed uses X.org and has only XFree86 as an alternative choice (a matter of not having removed the old packages I think) |
| 18:21.01 | psykok | NS-Sensenmann also ich weiß nicht der gibt nen fehler aus bei ndiswrapper wenn ich make install sage |
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| 18:21.02 | liberfiasco | Eulex, eh.. too many CDs.. I was thinking of lightweight liveCD's.. I already downloaded Damn Small Linux.. |
| 18:21.07 | rindolf | Hi! I'm using Debian Sarge. When I invoke the joe editor (apt-get install joe) using the command "joe joe.html" and then type "<" and a bunch of random a-z letters, I get a segfault. |
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| 18:21.24 | Eulex | rindolf, check the bts |
| 18:21.39 | rindolf | Eulex: what's bts? |
| 18:21.39 | Eulex | rindolf, and file a bug if there ain't already one |
| 18:21.42 | Eulex | !bts |
| 18:21.42 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 18:22.11 | abrotman | rindolf: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=293939 |
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| 18:23.34 | eeyore- | Heimidal: did you try the safe defaults? |
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| 18:24.09 | rindolf | abrotman: thanks. That seems to be it. |
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| 18:24.23 | EfreeT | Darkills :o) |
| 18:24.28 | EfreeT | only english here |
| 18:24.31 | EfreeT | :x |
| 18:24.38 | EfreeT | mdr |
| 18:24.42 | EfreeT | ca passe ici Darkills |
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| 18:25.04 | alej00d | i have a 2.6.13 kernel, im needing wireless services but my sources tell that there are modules available til kernel 2.6.12.. would those work under 2.6.13? anyone? |
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| 18:25.22 | eulex7197 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.23 | eulex8153 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.23 | eulex1730 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.23 | french2325 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.23 | eulex6225 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.23 | eulex6427 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex8317 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex2064 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex4716 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | french3692 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex5340 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | french2325 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | french3692 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex861 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex7197 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | french3692 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex6427 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.26 | eulex6427 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | eulex6225 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
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| 18:25.27 | eulex8317 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | eulex6225 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | french2325 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
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| 18:25.27 | eulex861 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | eulex8317 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | eulex668 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | *** kick/#debian [eulex668!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 18:25.27 | eulex8153 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.27 | eulex7197 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex861 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | french2325 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex7197 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex8607 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex8317 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex6427 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex6225 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex2064 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex1585 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex8153 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | eulex8607 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:25.28 | rindolf | abrotman: it works perfectly on my Mandriva installation. |
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| 18:25.29 | eulex6225 | WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
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| 18:25.39 | rindolf | abrotman: it works perfectly on my Mandriva installation. |
| 18:25.49 | rindolf | Eulex: what was that? |
| 18:26.02 | RichiH | shite |
| 18:26.06 | fbi | am i hallucinating or did this place just get flooded? |
| 18:26.08 | vincenz | f*cking spammers |
| 18:26.16 | SerajewelKS | what the FUXK |
| 18:26.22 | asg | fbi: don't eat the mushrooms |
| 18:26.24 | SerajewelKS | see i'm so mad i can't spell |
| 18:26.31 | vincenz | How do I allow x11 forwarding? It seems that my default config on debian does not allow it |
| 18:26.40 | fbi | asg: someone spiked my tea, no choice |
| 18:26.42 | azeem | people, relax. The situation got handled by the rangers |
| 18:26.42 | asg | vincenz: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 18:26.43 | rindolf | vincenz: ssh -x? |
| 18:27.05 | vincenz | nono... I do putty, but my debian box TO which I ssh does not allow the forwarding |
| 18:27.32 | stew | vincenz: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 18:27.35 | xsdg | why didn't debhelper set +m? |
| 18:27.51 | gin_ | how can i create a group in my linux ? |
| 18:27.58 | vincenz | thx |
| 18:28.03 | SerajewelKS | gin_, groupdel? |
| 18:28.10 | gin_ | create |
| 18:28.11 | stew | gin_: groupadd |
| 18:28.19 | gin_ | ty stew |
| 18:28.20 | SerajewelKS | oops, my bad |
| 18:28.28 | SerajewelKS | i read "delete" |
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| 18:29.47 | eeyore- | oh my gosh |
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| 18:30.13 | vincenz | Odd... |
| 18:30.17 | vincenz | ssh -X localhost |
| 18:30.23 | vincenz | echo $DISPLAY => nothing |
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| 18:30.35 | eeyore- | vincenz: your sshd doesn't allow forwarding X11 port, /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 18:30.48 | vincenz | eeyore-: I changed it, me thinks |
| 18:30.52 | eeyore- | vincenz: it doesn't matter what the client asked for, if the server says no it's no :-) |
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| 18:31.28 | vincenz | Host *\n ForwardX11 yes |
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| 18:31.37 | TwistedEmotions | to install x with aptitude what was the command again? |
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| 18:32.00 | eeyore- | vincenz: did you restart the sshd daemon? |
| 18:32.06 | ircops | TwistedEmotions: what distro? |
| 18:32.12 | gin_ | i can't see on the list my new group why ? |
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| 18:32.14 | vincenz | eeyore-: ooh, no |
| 18:32.14 | ircops | TwistedEmotions: err release |
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| 18:32.25 | TwistedEmotions | ircops: unstable |
| 18:32.26 | eeyore- | vincenz: *plonk* |
| 18:32.31 | lopezr | buenas |
| 18:32.38 | lopezr | alguien de cordoba |
| 18:32.39 | vincenz | eeyore-: did now, still the same |
| 18:32.51 | eeyore- | vincenz: "ssh -v -X localhost" |
| 18:32.54 | TwistedEmotions | ircops: I just accidentally deleted a config file and now it wont run.. forgot the command I used to install xorg |
| 18:33.08 | ircops | TwistedEmotions: /msg dpkg get xorg |
| 18:33.10 | SerajewelKS | TwistedEmotions, apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg |
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| 18:33.18 | SerajewelKS | or something like that |
| 18:33.24 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.29 | vincenz | eeyore-: debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. |
| 18:33.30 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha |
| 18:33.35 | stew | TwistedEmotions: if you deleted a conf file you need /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 18:33.48 | vincenz | eeyore-: last line |
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| 18:34.05 | stew | vincenz: /msg dpkg sshx ; /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 18:34.11 | Lilldude | liable you here? |
| 18:34.34 | splattnik | is there an working debian syntax for the mirror of security.debian.org? |
| 18:34.34 | vincenz | eeyore-: where do you put the Enable... after the Host * or before it? |
| 18:34.44 | Lilldude | any one use clam av? |
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| 18:34.58 | stew | splattnik: s/security.debian.org/ftp.de.debian.org/ but that is unofficial and temporary |
| 18:35.11 | abrotman | Lilldude: why? |
| 18:35.16 | abrotman | and i don't |
| 18:35.19 | splattnik | thx |
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| 18:35.52 | Overand | What log would I look at to see the 'reason' my machine was shut down/rebooted? |
| 18:35.55 | Lilldude | so when i get crack stuff i scan it for windows virus before windows gets it |
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| 18:36.10 | abrotman | Lilldude: are you freaking kidding me? |
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| 18:36.20 | zerve_the_death | looooool |
| 18:36.21 | Lilldude | no abortman |
| 18:36.22 | Eulex | Overand, syslog would be a good bet :) |
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| 18:36.28 | stew | Lilldude: yes |
| 18:36.38 | stew | Lilldude: if i'm understanding you correctly, at least |
| 18:36.41 | abrotman | Lilldude: you want us to help you pirate software ? |
| 18:36.48 | Lilldude | nope |
| 18:36.49 | abrotman | and make sure it's virus free ... |
| 18:36.53 | stew | abrotman: thats not how i understood that |
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| 18:37.05 | abrotman | stew: when he cracks stuff .. as in .. a game code crack etc |
| 18:37.09 | yel | hello everyone, |
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| 18:37.24 | stew | abrotman: i read that as, can i scan for viruses that are trying to crack my windows boxes |
| 18:37.24 | Lilldude | if i down load a file on debian then carry it to windows i dont want to infect it |
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| 18:37.34 | abrotman | stew: see |
| 18:37.39 | Overand | Eulex: ok... i can see no *reason* that the system rebooted |
| 18:37.43 | Overand | 'shutting down for system reboot' |
| 18:37.44 | ix | vincenz: try CTRL+Q when that happens |
| 18:37.48 | vincenz | ix thx |
| 18:37.48 | Overand | that's not a good sign. |
| 18:37.55 | ix | vincenz: you might be enabling scroll lock, you see (: |
| 18:37.59 | vincenz | ix: not ctrl+q |
| 18:38.01 | abrotman | at least it didn't just reboot :) |
| 18:38.03 | Overand | Eulex: any suggestions for tracking down how that happened / who did that? |
| 18:38.05 | stew | Lilldude: is your question, "can I use clamav on linux to scan for windows viruses?"? |
| 18:38.12 | Overand | abrotman: yeah, but *I* didn't say "shutdown -r now" |
| 18:38.16 | Overand | so... |
| 18:38.24 | Overand | I've got some concerns |
| 18:38.24 | Overand | heh |
| 18:38.25 | ircops | hehehe |
| 18:38.31 | abrotman | Overand: someone/something did |
| 18:38.31 | Lilldude | stew righty |
| 18:38.35 | stew | Lilldude: the answer is yes |
| 18:38.38 | Eulex | Overand, maybe someone did it with sudo? then check the sudo log |
| 18:38.44 | Overand | hm |
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| 18:38.52 | asura | Hello.. I've been googling and I'm seeking additional advise in regards to a non-production box I believe to be comprised |
| 18:39.04 | asura | my logs are showing pam_unix2: session started for user nobody, service su |
| 18:39.12 | ircops | asura: comprised or compromised? |
| 18:39.13 | vincenz | ix: nope ;/ |
| 18:39.23 | Overand | Eulex: would that be in auth.log? |
| 18:39.31 | asura | ircops: please pardon any spelling errarta |
| 18:39.32 | vincenz | and ... the stuff mentioned by dpkg is incorrect ... Enable X11Forwarding is illegal syntax for ssh_conofig |
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| 18:39.42 | Overand | and yes. |
| 18:39.47 | asura | compromised* |
| 18:39.50 | Eulex | Overand, maybe, I don't remember |
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| 18:39.51 | Lilldude | stew if i burn someting on debian nad cary it to windows i dont like windows getting virus |
| 18:40.06 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to setup the fucking mouse in xorg for a powerbook? This pos is ticking me off... psaux:autodetect doesnt work and neither does 'mouse/input' or whatever... |
| 18:40.12 | Overand | oh dear. |
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| 18:41.02 | Lilldude | abortman there is no need to run pirate stuff |
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| 18:41.11 | Eulex | Overand, anything special in that log? |
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| 18:41.14 | djp | the music player in debian 3.1 (rhythmbox) seems to cut off the end of a few songs, i think those that tend to blend into the next. is this a usual problem with rhythmbox? |
| 18:41.23 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: sudo apt-get install chkrootkit |
| 18:41.30 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: already rean it |
| 18:41.32 | Overand | ran it |
| 18:41.32 | stew | Lilldude: if you run clamscan on a file or directory it will scan it for infected files, i dunno if that answers your question |
| 18:41.38 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: and ? |
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| 18:41.58 | stew | vincenz: it is correct |
| 18:41.59 | abrotman | Lilldude: if you say so |
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| 18:42.00 | asura | I'm also seeing in my seccheck perms changing this week on critical executables |
| 18:42.01 | asura | + -rwxr-sr-x 1 root shadow 13416 2005-09-15 00:32 /sbin/unix2_chkpwd |
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| 18:42.14 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: many lines of this in the auth.log: Sep 19 10:09:01 www2 CRON[4416]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root |
| 18:42.15 | vincenz | stew: that syntax is not allowed by my ssh_config file |
| 18:42.18 | concept10 | what is the name of the package that helps bash autocomplete after the first command? i cant remember.... |
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| 18:42.26 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: nothing bad reported from chkrootkit though |
| 18:42.29 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: paste your auth.log somewhere |
| 18:42.30 | stew | vincenz: you shouldn't edit the ssh_config file |
| 18:42.34 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: k |
| 18:42.34 | stew | vincenz: sshd_config |
| 18:42.36 | Overand | pastebin? |
| 18:42.40 | vincenz | stew: ah! |
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| 18:42.41 | vincenz | doh |
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| 18:42.51 | Lilldude | its just i hate to cary virus on another pc |
| 18:42.55 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: sure |
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| 18:43.01 | ircops | Lilldude: I love it... |
| 18:43.03 | Lilldude | maybe i am parinoid using windows |
| 18:43.07 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: too big for #flood I think.. |
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| 18:43.15 | emptty | Hello there, I'm looking for a tool to grab an iso image from an existing cdrom disk. |
| 18:43.16 | xor2k5 | Hi! |
| 18:43.21 | eeyore- | emptty: dd |
| 18:43.36 | emptty | eeyore-: that's kinda brutal, isn't it? |
| 18:43.37 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: http://pastebin.com/368260 |
| 18:43.40 | Overand | it's not the whole log |
| 18:43.42 | Overand | this is a segment. |
| 18:43.45 | gin_ | if i want give only to see one directory to an user, how can i do that ? |
| 18:43.52 | vincenz | stew: thanks, that was it... but it's the wrong syntax... It should be X11Forwarding yes |
| 18:43.58 | vincenz | :) |
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| 18:44.06 | Lilldude | thanks stew and abortman |
| 18:44.06 | xor2k5 | How can I make my own kernel-image debian package? |
| 18:44.17 | Lilldude | guys il figure it out |
| 18:44.20 | xor2k5 | I mean everything, with initrd etc... |
| 18:44.30 | AbsolutZer0 | hmmm |
| 18:44.33 | stew | vincenz: i think the factoid was assuming you were smart enought to man sshd_config |
| 18:44.35 | xor2k5 | Is there a howto somewhere? I haven't found one yet |
| 18:44.44 | vincenz | stew: yeah that and I was looking at ssh_config, not sshd_config |
| 18:44.53 | stew | xor2k5: /msg dpkg kp ; /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 18:44.54 | vincenz | I missed the littl d |
| 18:45.10 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: Errr.. I would be a little worried.. |
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| 18:45.16 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: yeah |
| 18:45.19 | Overand | i'm a little worried. |
| 18:45.20 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: what distro do you use..? |
| 18:45.20 | AbsolutZer0 | I want to completley uninstall the KDE UI, will apt-get remove KDE work? |
| 18:45.32 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: debian, sarge. |
| 18:45.33 | stew | AbsolutZer0: /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 18:45.41 | TwistedEmotions | meant release.. |
| 18:45.49 | Overand | (I changed the roor p/w just now as well, incidnetally) |
| 18:45.50 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: are you fully updated? |
| 18:45.52 | Overand | root, even |
| 18:45.56 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: as of ~ 1 week ago, yes |
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| 18:46.06 | emptty | eeyore-: ok, thanks for the idea, I'll give dd a spin |
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| 18:46.17 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... and you are not '68.236.156.220'? |
| 18:46.21 | asg | Guerrrrin: btw, you made it on Jordi's blog |
| 18:46.21 | AbsolutZer0 | wow, very useful box |
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| 18:46.29 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: i *am* that IP |
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| 18:46.35 | Overand | that last login is me. |
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| 18:46.41 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: then its not a problem |
| 18:46.44 | Overand | the machine shut down at that gap |
| 18:46.50 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: why is so much stuff in cron running as root? |
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| 18:46.51 | Overand | oh |
| 18:46.52 | Overand | duh |
| 18:46.53 | Overand | christ |
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| 18:47.06 | Overand | alright, just a moment |
| 18:47.11 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: you mean just all the '# |
| 18:47.11 | TwistedEmotions | Sep 19 11:15:01 www2 CRON[7060]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root' |
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| 18:47.23 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: are you worried about all those ^^^^^? |
| 18:47.28 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: it's probably one of the 'intrusion monitor' apps that chcels files everywhere |
| 18:47.31 | mkrzych | Hi everybody |
| 18:47.32 | Overand | yeah, i *was* |
| 18:47.34 | golgotha | does anyone know how to remove your local evolution config, .evolution doesn't appear to be where the config is |
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| 18:47.43 | Overand | but it just occurted to me that it's probably just an actual legit cron job |
| 18:47.45 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: dont worry.. that stuff doesnt mean anything.. |
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| 18:47.58 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: firewall? |
| 18:48.03 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: i still can't figure out why in the system log i've got a 'system is going down for reboot' |
| 18:48.06 | mkrzych | deas anyone know what happened this security portal today? |
| 18:48.08 | Overand | as in, no hardware faiure |
| 18:48.09 | AbsolutZer0 | one of these days i won't need a GUI... |
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| 18:48.15 | elirips | hello people. i have a strange thing while using linux/debian: i have an usb-mouse connected to my thinkpad T40p. as soon as i plug-out the mouse, i hear some "noise", something beeping (not loud at all). the sound comes from the upper left corner (where also the mouse is pluged-in). as soon as i plug-in the mouse again, it's gone, if i plug it out again, it returns. any ideas? |
| 18:48.18 | Overand | just... an actual reboot was requested SOMEWHERE |
| 18:48.20 | Eulex | !topicsmite mkrzych |
| 18:48.21 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon mkrzych. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 18:48.26 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: it's a automatic message I think everytime you reboot.. |
| 18:48.40 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: did you reboot machine? |
| 18:48.44 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: but *I* didn't reboot the machine |
| 18:48.53 | TwistedEmotions | Errrr.. |
| 18:48.57 | Overand | The machine "rebooted" |
| 18:49.00 | Overand | but it didn't just reboot |
| 18:49.03 | TwistedEmotions | That's not good... |
| 18:49.13 | Overand | it like... rebooted as if someone had done "shutdown -r" |
| 18:49.13 | Overand | yeah |
| 18:49.44 | TwistedEmotions | Well eitherway... I dont think your auth.log looks funny.. so no major need to worry.. |
| 18:49.49 | AbsolutZer0 | make sure the only root has the privelage to use shutdown, halt and reboot |
| 18:49.52 | TwistedEmotions | could someone have loged on locally? |
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| 18:50.13 | stew | !tell solemnwarning about away |
| 18:50.13 | prohna | ahoy it is I again |
| 18:50.14 | AbsolutZer0 | or that someone has installed a script that serves the same function |
| 18:50.18 | prohna | back for more help |
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| 18:50.30 | jbroome | !tell jbroome about away |
| 18:50.34 | prohna | i did apt-get install bittorrent |
| 18:50.39 | prohna | and it went through its stuff |
| 18:50.42 | HAMM3R | When I boot up, i have to add "acpi=off" to grub in order for it to boot properly. But I have to do this everytimt i boot. How can I add it permanently? |
| 18:50.44 | prohna | now how do i run bittorrent? |
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| 18:50.52 | prohna | cause typing bittorrent does nothing |
| 18:50.54 | hmms | hey |
| 18:51.02 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: http://pastebin.com/368269 |
| 18:51.12 | AbsolutZer0 | you have to give it a URL and torrent to grab |
| 18:51.17 | stew | prohna: btdownloadcurses or btdownloadgui |
| 18:51.18 | hmms | i just installed cyrus but i cant login with the user cyrus |
| 18:51.21 | debianer | some body know, how can i give to an user only permissions to a directory |
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| 18:51.35 | AbsolutZer0 | chmod |
| 18:51.37 | hans0lo | HAMM3R: edit /etc/grub/menu.lst |
| 18:51.41 | AbsolutZer0 | example |
| 18:51.51 | AbsolutZer0 | cd / |
| 18:52.02 | AbsolutZer0 | chmod 700 root |
| 18:52.04 | prohna | stew, btdownloadcurses thats the command for something? |
| 18:52.14 | AbsolutZer0 | or just chmod 700 /root |
| 18:52.16 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: heh... wtf is mrtg and who the faq ran it? |
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| 18:52.26 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: box is at colo |
| 18:52.33 | stew | prohna: yeah, dpkg -L bittorrent | grep bin ; man btdownloadcurses ... |
| 18:52.38 | Overand | there are a few things 'odd' on it |
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| 18:52.46 | Eulex | mrtg - multi router traffic grapher |
| 18:52.47 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: Ohhhhh... maybe maintainance? |
| 18:52.53 | Overand | no, i know what MRTG is |
| 18:53.09 | Overand | i'm just showing that the system was just plugging through its normal jobs, then -foop- shutdown |
| 18:53.10 | HAMM3R | (hans0lo): /etc/grub: No such file or directory |
| 18:53.12 | badcoder | how i extract a rar archive that is a sfx ? i mean with .exe extension ? |
| 18:53.17 | Overand | but i don't know why/who |
| 18:53.48 | TwistedEmotions | If it's at colo I wouldnt worry... they probably needed to reboot all the machines for some reason or another.. |
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| 18:54.05 | fbi | HAMM3R: why not try disabling acpi in the bios and just boot grub normally |
| 18:54.06 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: but the machine was rebooted via software... |
| 18:54.09 | takatumi | Overand: excess heat? |
| 18:54.15 | nvz | wtf do I have to do if I want to get total size of /path/to/somefiles_starting_with_this* |
| 18:54.21 | Overand | takatumi: that would imply i have lmsensors running or something |
| 18:54.21 | prohna | stew, have you used nicotine (soulseek)? |
| 18:54.33 | takatumi | Overand: nope. |
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| 18:54.35 | stew | nvz: du -s ? |
| 18:54.36 | Overand | takatumi: the machine didn't 'reset' as in, if it had been unplugged, etc. |
| 18:54.41 | stew | prohna: never heard of it |
| 18:54.42 | Overand | it did a clean shutdown and reboot |
| 18:54.58 | nvz | stew: doesnt help adding the s, doesnt show a total |
| 18:54.59 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: Seriously... I wouldnt worry if I was you... |
| 18:55.03 | prohna | oh cause i cant get it to connect |
| 18:55.04 | HAMM3R | (fbi): yeah, you told me that yesterday. I did try that. In the bios settings for acpi, there were two options. Something like SE1 and SE2. There was no disable option |
| 18:55.15 | nvz | stew: I was using du -h already didnt total it |
| 18:55.17 | takatumi | Overand: if it rebooted then it ain't heat, it can shut down though. |
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| 18:55.32 | Overand | TwistedEmotions: maybe someone brushed the power buttin |
| 18:55.41 | fbi | HAMM3R: that's why i said try, it isn't always supported |
| 18:55.42 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: or ctrl-alt-del |
| 18:55.43 | Overand | and it sent whatever 'signal' happens in power management that tells the OS to shut down |
| 18:55.45 | jharrisonwk | HAMM3R: y0 4r3 l33t |
| 18:55.50 | Overand | yeah |
| 18:55.50 | Overand | odd. |
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| 18:55.53 | stew | nvz: | awk '{print "+" ; print $1}' | bc ? |
| 18:55.58 | badcoder | how i extract a rar archive that is a sfx ? i mean with .exe extension ? |
| 18:55.58 | TwistedEmotions | Overand: call and ask them.. |
| 18:56.02 | Overand | yeah |
| 18:56.25 | sbk | HAMM3R: menu.lst is at /boot/grub/menu.lst. Change the item within comments, then run update-grub |
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| 18:56.32 | badcoder | or in linux only *.rar are possible to extract not rar.exe? |
| 18:56.39 | HAMM3R | thanks, will do |
| 18:56.47 | Gnea | badcoder: wine |
| 18:57.10 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know what the mouse input is for Powerbook G4 when setting up xorg? Or how I can find out what the input is... please? |
| 18:57.11 | nvz | I am irritated right now, so I am just going to go away.. heh spent hours riding all over the fucking world to apply for jobs that are right across the street from my house |
| 18:57.20 | Eulex | badcoder, I guess the official unrar util could do it |
| 18:57.46 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: You rode all over the fucking world? gj you.. |
| 18:57.48 | jharrisonwk | badcoder: you wish to extract warez.rar dont you |
| 18:57.59 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: and it only took hours.. |
| 18:58.00 | HAMM3R | (sbk): within comments? I see: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro |
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| 18:58.11 | HAMM3R | Which is the same thing I used to add acpi=off to |
| 18:58.20 | HAMM3R | There is no comment |
| 18:58.20 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: close enough.. went from Leetsdale to Cranberry and Zelienople and shit.. |
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| 18:58.28 | badcoder | wine rar.xe? |
| 18:58.46 | stew | solemnwarning: please turn that off in here |
| 18:58.48 | Eulex | !tell solemnwarning about away |
| 18:58.51 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: I dont know wtf is going on in this world.. I dont know why if you want a job thats right across the street, you cant just walk across the street anymore |
| 18:58.53 | jharrisonwk | DoppelGanger: BOO! |
| 18:58.54 | sbk | HAMM3R: hmm... did you install grub through a debian package? |
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| 18:59.10 | solemnwarning | stew: how do you config xchat to not do stuff in #debian? |
| 18:59.13 | HAMM3R | It was installed during installatiton |
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| 18:59.23 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: I dont know what the fuck your talking about... but to unrar something... unrar x foo.rar or unrar x foo.part01 |
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| 18:59.30 | sbk | HAMM3R: do you see any comments in that file at all? |
| 18:59.39 | HAMM3R | Yes, quite a few |
| 18:59.42 | eeyore- | nvz: riding all over the world? |
| 18:59.42 | takatumi | HAMM3R: look for the kopt line in menu.lst, add acpi=off to the end of that line, run update-grub |
| 18:59.43 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: apt-get install unrar first... if you dont have it.. |
| 18:59.43 | djp | the music player in debian 3.1 (rhythmbox) seems to cut off the end of a few songs, i think those that tend to blend into the next. is this a usual problem with rhythmbox? |
| 19:00.01 | sbk | HAMM3R: what takatumi said :-) |
| 19:00.02 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions i mean a rar with .exe extension |
| 19:00.02 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
| 19:00.06 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: Did you try walking accross the road? |
| 19:00.12 | HAMM3R | ahhh: # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 19:00.15 | HAMM3R | that line? |
| 19:00.23 | sbk | HAMM3R: yes |
| 19:00.26 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: if it's a fucking EXE then it's not a RAR! |
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| 19:00.34 | HAMM3R | and uncomment it correct? |
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| 19:00.39 | takatumi | no. |
| 19:00.40 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions is a sfx |
| 19:00.42 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: EXE's are windows programs... |
| 19:01.02 | sbk | HAMM3R: no. Just append it to it. The update-grub regenerates menu.lst, using those comments, to create the "real" kernel boot lines |
| 19:01.07 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: you mean those self-decompressing bs programs... |
| 19:01.12 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: well last time I tried that I got the job, but they ended up screwing me over and over and over.. at least going through the staffing agency I got someone who I know will make sure I get all my fucking money and on time |
| 19:01.18 | HAMM3R | Ah i understand now. Ok, thanks guys |
| 19:01.29 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions yes |
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| 19:01.39 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: this time they dont take walk-ins and I dont have an inside reference |
| 19:01.42 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: unrar it in a windows environment... only way.. or use vmware or wine or something like that.. |
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| 19:02.14 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: Offer to sleep with someone.. that always helps.. |
| 19:02.17 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions why the fuck do they make sfx shit |
| 19:02.25 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: Why are you using it? |
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| 19:02.39 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions is a file i need to decompress |
| 19:02.50 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: yeah well thats pretty much only if you have a nice set of tits |
| 19:02.53 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: just decompress in windows env then send to yourself |
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| 19:03.17 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: hahahaa nope... but I still offer ;) |
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| 19:03.34 | AbsolutZer0 | which runs faster for you guys? Gnome or KDE? |
| 19:03.39 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions where can i find a windows box? im doomed |
| 19:03.41 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: with WOMAN.. |
| 19:03.46 | TwistedEmotions | *Women |
| 19:03.52 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarg |
| 19:03.52 | lutin_triste | e1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
| 19:03.57 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: how powerful is your machine? |
| 19:04.09 | AbsolutZer0 | About 300 mhz, 192 Meg Ram |
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| 19:04.15 | TwistedEmotions | hahaa |
| 19:04.18 | ircops | wow that's alot of bs |
| 19:04.29 | AbsolutZer0 | oopsw |
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| 19:04.44 | badcoder | TwistedEmotions nop im not gonna run some emulation software for just one sfx |
| 19:04.55 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: is it private? |
| 19:04.57 | Ronin | lutin_triste: why you doing that? |
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| 19:05.20 | TwistedEmotions | badcoder: if you dont care if other people see it I can uncompress for you.. |
| 19:05.34 | TwistedEmotions | guess not. |
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| 19:06.44 | eeyore- | TwistedEmotions: must be some good pron :) |
| 19:07.02 | TwistedEmotions | hahahaha\ |
| 19:07.39 | TwistedEmotions | I moved over a porn zip with 256 bit encryption... had to emulate windows just to get the files out.. ;P |
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| 19:08.04 | AbsolutZer0 | hmm does trel come in a dpkg? |
| 19:08.10 | TwistedEmotions | but then again... my pron was home made so worth it... Weeeeee ;) |
| 19:08.20 | AbsolutZer0 | trek* |
| 19:08.32 | eeyore- | "home made". hmm. |
| 19:08.39 | AbsolutZer0 | lol you need pron viewer... |
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| 19:08.54 | TwistedEmotions | AbsolutZer0: ;) Gmplayer |
| 19:08.58 | AbsolutZer0 | it's like pornview except for pron |
| 19:09.07 | AbsolutZer0 | lol |
| 19:09.18 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge |
| 19:09.18 | lutin_triste | 1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
| 19:09.27 | abrotman | wtf |
| 19:09.27 | TwistedEmotions | lutin_triste: WTF? |
| 19:09.29 | Ronin | lutin_triste: please stop that |
| 19:09.52 | TwistedEmotions | Where are admins when you need them ;P |
| 19:09.54 | abrotman | that's the most invalid question i've seen all day |
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| 19:09.59 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: they're here |
| 19:10.06 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: Help? |
| 19:10.10 | abrotman | don't do that |
| 19:10.21 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: dont do what? |
| 19:10.23 | vir3 | hello all I am trying to setup a p-t-p network between osx and debian. so far i have got the network card on debian working and ifconfig gives inet addr:219.64.74.12 P-t-P:172.23.128.90 Mask:255.255.255.255. So what should be the ip address of the osx machine ... the debian machine is connected to the internet ... (what should the router address be ? the ip of the debian machine ?) |
| 19:10.26 | abrotman | he's canadian .. he can't help it |
| 19:10.31 | libervisco | Where I can see the content of debian CD's? I forgot |
| 19:10.34 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: ogggg... pasting |
| 19:10.39 | AbsolutZer0 | amyone using Knoppix? |
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| 19:10.49 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 19:10.49 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 19:10.52 | vir3 | p-t-p being a crossover cable ... |
| 19:10.52 | abrotman | AbsolutZer0: wrong channel |
| 19:11.08 | AbsolutZer0 | lol, #knoppix is dead |
| 19:11.15 | abrotman | so what |
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| 19:11.18 | AbsolutZer0 | and since knoppix is debian based i cam here |
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| 19:11.20 | abrotman | it's not debian .. ask #knoppix |
| 19:11.26 | libervisco | Thanks abrotman |
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| 19:11.34 | abrotman | if they can't help you .. install debian .. then you can get help here |
| 19:11.40 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: How do I get dondel on the line? |
| 19:11.46 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.51 | abrotman | TwistedEmotions: why would you do that? |
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| 19:12.19 | TwistedEmotions | AbsolutZer0: knoppix has its own issues of which we know nothing about... that's why we stay away from #knoppix |
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| 19:12.40 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: to kick lutin_triste |
| 19:12.53 | abrotman | there are other ops here .. and did witness it |
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| 19:13.10 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: oh. |
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| 19:13.15 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: ? |
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| 19:13.24 | brett | What are the ramifications of adding an 'experimental' line to my sources.list? |
| 19:13.26 | muhoo | i tried to upgrade mysql-server-4.1 on sarge, and, dpkg is failing |
| 19:13.27 | TwistedEmotions | Noooow you show up.. |
| 19:13.33 | muhoo | db_stop: command not found |
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| 19:13.49 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he was trying to get oyu to kick lutin_triste |
| 19:13.53 | abrotman | i think anyways |
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| 19:13.58 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: Look up like 20 lines at lutin_triste |
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| 19:14.08 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: right, but first ask the person to stop nicely. |
| 19:14.12 | abrotman | i figured since he'd been idle for a while .. he was away for the day |
| 19:14.13 | lutin_triste | hello , how are you |
| 19:14.20 | abrotman | wtf |
| 19:14.23 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: I dont think it's a live person |
| 19:14.31 | abrotman | lutin_triste: where are you from? |
| 19:14.36 | dondelelcaro | lutin_triste: please don't paste random stuff to the channel or CTCP VERSION us. |
| 19:14.39 | Ronin | lutin_triste: please stop pasting that, or better yet why are you doing that |
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| 19:14.54 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: it was like the second time.. and everyone asked him to stop first time. |
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| 19:15.00 | AbsolutZer0 | aha |
| 19:15.06 | lutin_triste | im dyslexic sorry |
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| 19:15.14 | abrotman | funny .. you can spell just fine |
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| 19:15.17 | TwistedEmotions | troll.. |
| 19:15.30 | lutin_triste | wat |
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| 19:16.06 | AbsolutZer0 | alright gonna try out gnome and see how it's running |
| 19:16.13 | AbsolutZer0 | time to startz |
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| 19:17.45 | schoinobates | Hi. I noticed with strace that "cp" calls open() with 3rd argument (mode) bit 2^5 set. Somebody knows what this bit means? It corresponds to S_IFREG. |
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| 19:18.04 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge |
| 19:18.04 | lutin_triste | 1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ?4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 ? |
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| 19:18.35 | madradrone | shingouz: ? |
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| 19:19.19 | abrotman | but .. he's dyslexic |
| 19:19.32 | Ronin | abrotman: he's definatly something thats for sure |
| 19:19.34 | TwistedEmotions | Seriously... |
| 19:19.39 | abrotman | he's french canadian! |
| 19:19.51 | l_a_m | someone know i can delete files on usb key ? (i have rw on /etc/fstab), but read-only system when is mounted |
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| 19:20.14 | Eulex | ban him |
| 19:20.20 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: As arrogant as an American and as smelly as a Frenchman, but without any of the advantages of either. |
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| 19:20.37 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: more arrogant in general .. at least in my experience |
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| 19:20.43 | Ronin | advantages to being american? hummm |
| 19:20.47 | madradrone | who who who? |
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| 19:21.21 | Eulex | ah, he's already banned :) |
| 19:21.33 | ricky_clarkson | Ronin: He who hath paid fuel tax in the union of countries of many languages knoweth the benefit the American hath. |
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| 19:22.03 | ricky_clarkson | ... Americans pay less (or no) fuel tax. |
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| 19:22.30 | ttl- | hi |
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| 19:22.52 | Ronin | ya but we get medicare so we come out ahead ;) |
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| 19:23.18 | ricky_clarkson | Ronin: HAHA. |
| 19:23.20 | muhoo | medicare? ahead? |
| 19:23.22 | jacapo | Does anyone know a good resource for video card bus identifiers? |
| 19:23.26 | ricky_clarkson | HAHAHAHAAHAAAAHHAA a h hhaaahaahaha.HA |
| 19:23.35 | madradrone | this neo-liberal free-market crap over the past 15 years has devasted vast pockets of usa. what you see in new orleans is just the tip of the iceberg of squalor |
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| 19:23.38 | Ronin | so who wants to go to the gym tonight for my so my lazy arse can go home and drink beer |
| 19:23.39 | ricky_clarkson | Ronin: Ever heard of the National Health Service? |
| 19:23.42 | abrotman | jacapo: normally .. leave it blank |
| 19:23.44 | muhoo | i don't find canadians arrogant. |
| 19:23.58 | jacapo | abrotmam: seriously? |
| 19:23.59 | muhoo | quite the opposite. they're nothing like either french or 'mercuns |
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| 19:24.01 | ricky_clarkson | Yesterday there was a Canadian in my way! |
| 19:24.11 | ttl- | since I've upgraded to Sarge i get this error from the cron daemon in my mailbox |
| 19:24.27 | ttl- | /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: |
| 19:24.27 | ttl- | error: error running postrotate script |
| 19:24.27 | ttl- | run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 |
| 19:24.34 | takatumi | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/77523/third-of-worlds-botinfections-are-uk-computers.html (where's Turkey?) |
| 19:24.34 | AbsolutZer0 | lol I think I am just going to use fluxbox |
| 19:24.36 | Ronin | ricky_clarkson: they probibly stepped out of the way the |
| 19:24.44 | Eulex | ttl-, did you use apt-get or aptitude to upgrade? |
| 19:24.50 | Ronin | AbsolutZer0: excellent choice |
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| 19:25.04 | dondelelcaro | ttl-: right, your postrotate script is failing. |
| 19:25.17 | ricky_clarkson | Ronin: Basically, medicare sucks. In the UK, we get free healthcare. Pretty much comprehensively. Barring eyes, teeth (except for vulnerable people) and cosmetic surgery. |
| 19:25.18 | ttl- | Eulex: apt-get -dist-upgrade |
| 19:25.25 | dondelelcaro | ttl-: check your logrotate configuration and see which one of the postrotate rules is failing and why it is failing. |
| 19:25.29 | AbsolutZer0 | fbdesk is not working though |
| 19:25.31 | dondelelcaro | ttl-: /var/log/syslog should have some more details. |
| 19:25.47 | Ronin | ricky_clarkson: not the best but definatly better then our southern neighbors have |
| 19:25.50 | AbsolutZer0 | how do you configure fbdesk? |
| 19:25.51 | Eulex | ttl-, you shouldn't use apt-get to upgrade from woody to sarge, you should use aptitude |
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| 19:26.01 | marc__ | hi! Does xorg's composite need some dark magic to work with unstable ? Even with correct xorg.conf, xcompmgr keeps telling me "No composite"... :/ |
| 19:26.01 | dondelelcaro | Eulex: that has no bearing on this problem. |
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| 19:26.10 | Eulex | dondelelcaro, oh |
| 19:26.15 | Ronin | in any case time for me to get the heck out of work and go do somethign constructive |
| 19:26.20 | happybunny | why can't i ping by short name? |
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| 19:26.21 | fbi | marc__: you also need transset |
| 19:26.24 | ricky_clarkson | Eulex: And the same for sarge->etch or any major upgrade? |
| 19:26.25 | happybunny | ping server no worko |
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| 19:26.29 | happybunny | ping server.domain.com works |
| 19:26.30 | ricky_clarkson | happybunny: /etc/hosts |
| 19:26.36 | marc__ | fbi: I have it, but first, I have to make xcompmgr work |
| 19:26.49 | happybunny | well, we have dns in house so hosts file dones't seem right |
| 19:26.55 | madradrone | AbsolutZer0: you know where to find package documentation? |
| 19:26.59 | ricky_clarkson | happybunny: Ah. nm. |
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| 19:27.02 | fbi | marc__: i have no idea what card you are running to tell you what Options you need in xorg.conf |
| 19:27.05 | fbi | Google it. |
| 19:27.06 | l_a_m | some know why i can't delete an usb key ? i have put defaults,rw,user,noauto on /etc/fstab |
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| 19:27.11 | brett | does the experimental debian repo automatically get a pin priority of 1? |
| 19:27.12 | Turgon | Hi |
| 19:27.24 | Turgon | Anyone used "sbackup"? |
| 19:27.29 | happybunny | lam: same user mounted usb? |
| 19:27.34 | Eulex | ricky_clarkson, never heard about it applying to anything else than woody->sarge, but yeah, may help |
| 19:28.15 | marc__ | fbi: I googled already. I have a simple radeon (7500). I have the correct "Extensions" section, and AFAIK, there is no need for card specific option for basic composite ... Am I wrong? |
| 19:28.16 | l_a_m | happybunny: yes, root or me, same thing :( -> read-only system |
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| 19:28.52 | fbi | marc__: when i played around with transparency, there were different Options needed for nvidia and ati. |
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| 19:28.56 | streuner | brett: /msg dpkg experimental |
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| 19:29.08 | brett | streuner: yep I did |
| 19:29.10 | fbi | then, i realized that transparency is totally unnecessary and slows everything down way too much. |
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| 19:29.32 | swb | hi folks |
| 19:29.33 | brett | I'm just trying to understand how the priorities work? |
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| 19:29.50 | brett | Looks like in sid, apt automatically knows to give experimental a pin pirority of 1 |
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| 19:30.08 | brett | but I went ahead and made a preferences file just to be safe |
| 19:30.16 | dondelelcaro | brett: no, that's because of experimental's Release file |
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| 19:30.28 | brett | dondelelcaro: ahh ok |
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| 19:30.44 | brett | dondelelcaro: so should I have a preferences file setting it's priority to 1 just in case? |
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| 19:30.59 | AbsolutZer0 | crap |
| 19:31.06 | dondelelcaro | brett: there's no reason not to... |
| 19:31.10 | brett | 'k |
| 19:31.14 | AbsolutZer0 | gnome won't uninstall using apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common |
| 19:31.21 | brett | dondelelcaro: I also added 'APT::Default-Release "unstable";' to my apt.conf |
| 19:31.23 | swb | every time I start Gnome, there is an error reporting that there is an already running gnome-panel, how can I get rid of it? I run sid amd64, but same on i386 at work |
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| 19:31.31 | brett | but I'm not sure if that's even supported anymore? |
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| 19:31.50 | brett | The only place I could find it documented was in the apt-howto |
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| 19:33.18 | towelrod | I have a bunch of stuff installed from stable, and I did a dist-upgrade to testing, but I still have a lot of -sarge stuff still, and its causing problems with apt-get |
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| 19:33.35 | fbi | towelrod: and you are wondering why? |
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| 19:33.46 | towelrod | specifically, i have 1.2.2-4.sarge.2 of zlib1g installed, which is preventing me from installing zlib1g-dev |
| 19:33.55 | brett | Ok, so why don't experimental packages I have installed show up under 'Pinned packages' when I do an 'apt-cache policy'? |
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| 19:34.05 | towelrod | yes, because zlib1g-dev wants 1:1.2.2-4 |
| 19:34.45 | towelrod | 1.2.2-4 is what's in testing, but i have one from stable, so i can't get the -dev installed: what do i do? |
| 19:34.49 | AbsolutZer0 | wierd... KDE runs faster with my onboadr 2meg AGP ATI than with my PCI ATI Radeon Rage 6.. |
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| 19:35.25 | muhoo | damn s.d.o is sloooowwww |
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| 19:35.32 | AbsolutZer0 | s.d.o? |
| 19:35.39 | muhoo | security.debian.org |
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| 19:35.43 | AbsolutZer0 | aha |
| 19:35.45 | towelrod | i considered removing zlib1g and then reinstalling, but that has... implications |
| 19:35.53 | muhoo | must be really getting hit hard |
| 19:35.53 | AbsolutZer0 | try just using links |
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| 19:36.11 | muhoo | 25kB/s |
| 19:36.14 | AbsolutZer0 | or if your browser permits removing images |
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| 19:36.22 | AbsolutZer0 | wowza |
| 19:36.43 | AbsolutZer0 | course I rember using a 900 baud modem on a C64 |
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| 19:37.01 | AbsolutZer0 | international connections sucked back then |
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| 19:37.08 | muhoo | 11kB/s now... via DSL. i hope after this upgrade mysql-server-4.1 works again. otherwise i'm screwed. |
| 19:37.09 | towelrod | so what's the story? do i have to wait for zlib1g to upgrade to 1.2.2-5 or something? is there a way to force an install of the version from testing even if it doesn't think it is newer? |
| 19:37.24 | swb | every time I start Gnome, there is an error reporting that there is an already running gnome-panel, how can I get rid of it? I run sid amd64, but same on i386 at work |
| 19:37.24 | AbsolutZer0 | hmmm that sounds like a project |
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| 19:37.35 | AbsolutZer0 | C64 Linux |
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| 19:38.05 | concept10 | AbsolutZer0: that would be a waste of time |
| 19:38.14 | flawd | in what file do I put options to kernel modules? |
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| 19:39.37 | flawd | man modules says arguemnts to modules can be given on the same line |
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| 19:40.33 | lutin_triste | hi |
| 19:40.35 | flawd | on a webpage someone put "options i810fb xres=1600 yres=1200 bpp=32 accel=1 mtrr=1" in /etc/modules.d/aliases. Trying to find where to put it on my Debian system. |
| 19:41.04 | flawd | Can I put it in /etc/modules like "i810fb xres=1600 yres=1200 bpp=32 accel=1 mtrr=1" ? |
| 19:41.13 | flawd | to load i810fb with those options? |
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| 19:41.27 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge1 |
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| 19:41.33 | Gnea | flawd: that's right, in /etc/modules.d/aliases |
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| 19:41.43 | Gnea | !troll lutin_triste |
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| 19:42.17 | TwistedEmotions | wtf |
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| 19:42.35 | Gnea | flawd: then just run update-modules |
| 19:42.43 | flawd | Gnea, I don't have a modules.d in /etc/. Can I pass the options along when I load the module in /etc/modules |
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| 19:42.49 | Gnea | flawd: that will write the /etc/modules.conf and keep it updated |
| 19:42.53 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge1 |
| 19:43.00 | Gnea | flawd: sorry, /etc/modutils/ |
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| 19:43.03 | flawd | lutin_triste, ok point taken you loser |
| 19:43.04 | TwistedEmotions | lutin_triste: stop please. |
| 19:43.13 | Gnea | !ops lutin_triste is spamming the channel. |
| 19:43.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: lutin_triste is spamming the channel. |
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| 19:43.42 | flawd | ok ty Gnea |
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| 19:44.42 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14 |
| 19:44.42 | lutin_triste | sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge1 |
| 19:44.46 | Xenguy | !ops lutin_triste has evaded the ban |
| 19:44.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: lutin_triste has evaded the ban |
| 19:44.52 | flawd | Gnea, but all other lines in the aliases file starts with "alias..." and this line starts with "option...". It is still correct? |
| 19:45.00 | flawd | all type /ignore lutin_triste |
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| 19:45.11 | Gnea | heh yeah |
| 19:45.21 | Xenguy | nice |
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| 19:45.30 | Gnea | shwingshwang |
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| 19:45.36 | flawd | I will miss him ;) |
| 19:45.53 | flawd | Gnea, Ok that seems weird to me but I will do it anyway |
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| 19:45.57 | swb | is someone here who knows about gnome? |
| 19:46.04 | AbsolutZer0 | okay |
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| 19:46.25 | AbsolutZer0 | gnome wont' run and it's eating 514 meg... it won't go away either |
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| 19:46.31 | Eulex | swb, lol |
| 19:46.38 | AbsolutZer0 | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 <--- did not work |
| 19:46.38 | ttl- | dondelelcaro: i don't sy anything in syslog but it must be one of the scripts in /etc/logrotate.d i think |
| 19:46.41 | Eulex | AbsolutZer0, kill it |
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| 19:46.43 | ircops | !tell Eulex about lol |
| 19:46.51 | ircops | heheh |
| 19:46.53 | ircops | :D |
| 19:46.53 | swb | sorry for my english ;-) |
| 19:46.54 | AbsolutZer0 | I am running in flux box right now |
| 19:46.58 | swb | every time I start Gnome, there is an error reporting that there is an already running gnome-panel, how can I get rid of it? I run sid amd64, but same on i386 at work |
| 19:47.10 | Eulex | haha :P |
| 19:47.11 | AbsolutZer0 | let me see if it's running in the background |
| 19:47.18 | ircops | mwahaha |
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| 19:47.29 | thandavarayan | swb: Boy you can delecte the configuration file for panel# |
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| 19:47.41 | Gnonthgol | Why did my devices dissapear after ' sudo sh -c "LANG= chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash" ' ? |
| 19:47.46 | lutin_triste | 4.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge14.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge1 |
| 19:47.46 | thandavarayan | swb: which you can find it in .g**** |
| 19:47.53 | AbsolutZer0 | nope |
| 19:47.54 | ttl- | can i test the scripts in /etc/logrotate.d one by one ? |
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| 19:48.13 | AbsolutZer0 | not runnign in background, let me get you an error message |
| 19:48.14 | Schiz0 | How can I get mod_rewrite working in apache? I installed it via the deb and i dnd't see a package for it |
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| 19:48.15 | LoRez | wtf is up with that moron? |
| 19:48.17 | BlankB | !faq |
| 19:48.17 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:48.26 | ircops | New Channel!: #AOLonLinux |
| 19:48.30 | ircops | heh :D |
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| 19:49.31 | stew | Schiz0: its part of the apache package, if you have apache you shoudl have mod_rewrite |
| 19:49.36 | thandavarayan | swb: and what did you got now... |
| 19:49.39 | flawd | LoRez, I guess he was too stupid to install sarge and it triggered a psychosis |
| 19:49.54 | Gnonthgol | Why did my devices dissapear after ' sudo sh -c "LANG= chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash" ' ? |
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| 19:50.02 | Schiz0 | stew- I tried setting up a RewriteRule and it complained that there's no such command |
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| 19:50.05 | dspstv | i have kernel 2.6.13.1 but to install ipw2100 i only have this options:ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 - ipw2100 modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.12) |
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| 19:50.10 | charolastra | hi everyone |
| 19:50.16 | ircops | charolastra: whatup |
| 19:50.19 | SpinX | I've tried /dev/psaux;/dev/input/mice;/dev/input/mouse0. my mouse isn't working. |
| 19:50.22 | me_here | hi charolastra |
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| 19:50.31 | swb | thandavarayan: I found no config file, only a directory "panel2.d" |
| 19:50.36 | towelrod | can i download the .deb for testing and just manually install it somehow? |
| 19:50.38 | charolastra | can i apt-get earlier versions of a package? |
| 19:50.42 | thandavarayan | swb: delete that |
| 19:50.47 | stew | Schiz0: do you ahve a LoadModule rewrite_module line in your apache config? |
| 19:50.49 | AbsolutZer0 | I get this error when i try to uninstall (purge) |
| 19:50.50 | charolastra | i.e. downgrade |
| 19:50.52 | AbsolutZer0 | you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 19:50.54 | thandavarayan | swb: and restart the gnome. |
| 19:50.57 | AbsolutZer0 | oops |
| 19:50.59 | AbsolutZer0 | sec |
| 19:51.00 | stew | charolastra: /msg dpkg downgrade |
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| 19:51.04 | SpinX | what do i put for my mouse ? |
| 19:51.09 | stew | charolastra: what package? why? |
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| 19:51.17 | streuner | SpinX: what mouse do you have? |
| 19:51.23 | SpinX | its usb |
| 19:51.26 | SpinX | optical |
| 19:51.32 | Schiz0 | stew- Nope I don't, that would be it, thanks |
| 19:51.47 | charolastra | stew: the amarok package as the newest version has unexceptable CPU usage |
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| 19:51.57 | Rick | Is there something you need to do to allow normal users to bind/listen? |
| 19:52.08 | streuner | SpinX: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
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| 19:52.26 | swb | thandavarayan: it looks like these are the entries of the apps on my panel |
| 19:52.36 | muhoo | ok. HELP. /mysql-server-4.1_4.1.11a-4sarge1_i386.deb |
| 19:52.42 | thandavarayan | swb: do you got default entries |
| 19:52.43 | muhoo | refuses to install. and i'm screwed |
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| 19:52.46 | muhoo | wtf? |
| 19:52.51 | thandavarayan | swb: of you tweaked some... |
| 19:52.57 | lakcaj | muhoo, dpkg -i |
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| 19:53.01 | muhoo | this is a fully-stock sarge system |
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| 19:53.07 | stew | charolastra: you *might be able to apt-get install amorok=version to get an older one, but in general you cannot downgrade. is the problem fixed in sid? /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 19:53.15 | lakcaj | muhoo, dpkg -i mysql-server-4.1_4.1.11a-4sarge1_i386.deb |
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| 19:53.23 | muhoo | lakcaj: fails |
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| 19:53.32 | muhoo | fails fails fails |
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| 19:53.33 | swb | thandavarayan: you mean, this will reset my panel? |
| 19:53.37 | charolastra | stew: i'm using sid |
| 19:53.39 | muhoo | lakcaj: dpkg -i doesn't help |
| 19:53.40 | stew | muhoo: paste the error somewhere (not here) |
| 19:53.41 | gr8ron | muhoo: because security.debian.org is not working properly? |
| 19:53.43 | thandavarayan | swb: yes. |
| 19:54.11 | muhoo | gr8ron: i don't think so, but it's possible that the packages are corrupt. but, how could that happen? |
| 19:54.12 | lakcaj | muhoo, what's wrong with the mysql-server in the repos? Not new enough? |
| 19:54.17 | swb | thandavarayan: no chance to save them?? |
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| 19:54.39 | SpinX | my mouse still isnt working. |
| 19:54.42 | gr8ron | muhoo: dunno |
| 19:54.42 | towelrod | sweet, downloading the .deb and using dpkg to install it worked, i think |
| 19:54.44 | stew | lakcaj: that is the one in the repos |
| 19:54.44 | thandavarayan | swb: may be you can rename them to *.old |
| 19:54.52 | muhoo | lakcaj: repos? i'm pulling from http.us.debian/org/debian stable, and security.debian.org stable/updates |
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| 19:54.54 | thandavarayan | swb: and restart... |
| 19:55.00 | AbsolutZer0 | I'll have that error message in a sec |
| 19:55.02 | streuner | !doesn't work |
| 19:55.02 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:55.03 | vir3 | how do i assign an ip address to my ethernet card ? |
| 19:55.10 | DoppelGanger | carefully |
| 19:55.12 | stew | vir3: man interfaces |
| 19:55.17 | swb | thandavarayan: ok, I'll try, thanks |
| 19:55.18 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.23 | muhoo | i can't believe others aren't howling about this, and no fix or workaround available |
| 19:55.23 | vir3 | stew,fbi tnx |
| 19:55.52 | mofino | So will their ever be a policy change with regards to mirrors of the security updates? |
| 19:55.52 | AbsolutZer0 | okay |
| 19:55.53 | streuner | SpinX: do you have udev installed? |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | root@localhost:/home/AbsolutZer0# apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:55.55 | AbsolutZer0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:56.01 | stew | muhoo: paste the errors from apt-get -f install ; and apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 19:56.02 | SpinX | streuner , yea |
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| 19:56.12 | streuner | SpinX: remove it |
| 19:56.13 | muhoo | stew: #flood? |
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| 19:56.16 | Rawplayer | udev maintainer around? |
| 19:56.20 | stew | muhoo: sure |
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| 19:56.24 | SpinX | ok. |
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| 19:56.30 | streuner | SpinX: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 19:56.33 | AbsolutZer0 | sorry about the flood |
| 19:56.33 | dspstv | has someone help me to get ipw2100 working under 2.6.13 kernels |
| 19:56.41 | stew | !tell AbsolutZer0 about flood |
| 19:56.46 | SpinX | remoed. |
| 19:56.47 | SpinX | hold on |
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| 19:56.56 | thandavarayan | dspstv: Boy, kernel version and module version should match |
| 19:57.01 | SpinX | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 |
| 19:57.04 | muhoo | stew: will do. apt-get -f install is doing its gyrations right now |
| 19:57.17 | AbsolutZer0 | so does that mean anything? |
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| 19:57.27 | streuner | SpinX: ok, read the factoid again |
| 19:57.27 | muhoo | i did an apt-get -f install but it was several steps ago. maybe this'll fix it. |
| 19:57.29 | thandavarayan | dspstv: We had bad memories in making work ipw2xxx |
| 19:57.33 | donald | dspstv: Yes. it works. |
| 19:57.36 | stew | AbsolutZer0: did you run apt-get -f install? |
| 19:57.53 | SpinX | ? |
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| 19:58.12 | streuner | SpinX: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 19:58.17 | dspstv | donald, so i can go for the 2.6.12 modules? no matter im under 2.6.13?? |
| 19:58.18 | SpinX | i read it. |
| 19:58.21 | HAMM3R | I cant seem to get samba to be able to view/edit /var/www. Who do I have to log in as, and how do I access that directory? I can only seem to view the /home directories of the user I log in as. |
| 19:58.22 | SpinX | i did what it says. |
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| 19:59.01 | dspstv | thandavarayan i dont know what u mean...ipw2100 has been very stable in many distros |
| 19:59.26 | donald | dspstv: you can compile the modules for 2.6.13 - But you need the newest wireless tools in unstable/tesing - Without this it doesn work. |
| 19:59.40 | dspstv | donald thanks |
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| 19:59.50 | donald | dspstv: np |
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| 20:00.08 | dspstv | donald do you happen to know the version of wireless tools? |
| 20:00.14 | vir3 | i have setup the ip addresses in interfaces file to 192.168.10.10 but ifconfig gives an output like this inet addr:219.64.74.12 P-t-P:172.23.128.90 Mask:255.255.255.255 .... what am i doing wrong ? |
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| 20:00.38 | me_here | which mp3 decoders are available, with good quality, in debian ? |
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| 20:00.56 | vir3 | me_here: try mpg123 or mpg321 |
| 20:01.06 | stew | vir3: after you change interfaces, you need to /etc/init.d/networking restart ; or ifdown ethx ; ifup ethx |
| 20:01.13 | gr8ron | anyone got any idea why www.debian.org and security.d.o are slow? |
| 20:01.15 | donald | dspstv: 27+28pre8-1 |
| 20:01.25 | dspstv | i can see this: libiw28 (27+28pre9-1 Debian:unstable) |
| 20:01.26 | stew | gr8ron: becuase so many people want the xfree security updates |
| 20:01.27 | me_here | vir3: i meant something like lame |
| 20:01.33 | SpinX | k mouse works. |
| 20:01.40 | SpinX | haha, i think my video card isnt supported. |
| 20:01.54 | me_here | vir3: sorry, i meant encoders not decoders |
| 20:02.03 | streuner | SpinX: what videocard do you have? |
| 20:02.03 | vir3 | me_here: lame is the bost i suppose ... |
| 20:02.05 | dspstv | now im ready, i will give it a try and report back |
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| 20:02.07 | dspstv | ) |
| 20:02.15 | stew | me_here: there are no mp3 encoders in debian |
| 20:02.26 | stew | me_here: they cannot be included due to patents |
| 20:02.34 | vir3 | stew: ok i did that and still get the same ip address ... (i am kind of stupid when it comes to networks ... ) |
| 20:02.34 | gr8ron | stew: oh... i couldn't find any mentioning of xfree security updates anywhere |
| 20:02.37 | me_here | stew: so what tools then ? there must be some tools or ? |
| 20:02.40 | SpinX | streuner, really no idea.. it's s ome cheap generic one. came with this PC. |
| 20:02.47 | vir3 | stew: is that for us only or all over the world ? |
| 20:02.50 | stew | me_here: lame from marillat /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 20:03.02 | streuner | SpinX: run in a shell 'lspci -v | grep -i vga' |
| 20:03.09 | SpinX | can i do /exec -o to show you results? |
| 20:03.10 | me_here | stew: thx |
| 20:03.12 | gr8ron | stew: i mean i've been searching for some information on the available xfree86 security updates |
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| 20:03.21 | stew | vir3: all over the world, there are patent problems in other countries other than us |
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| 20:03.31 | SpinX | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
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| 20:03.37 | SpinX | loll. |
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| 20:03.49 | streuner | lol |
| 20:03.49 | vir3 | stew: EU is free of software patents ... and so is a large part of the world .. hmmz never mind .. ;) |
| 20:04.05 | streuner | SpinX: that's a bitch to configure :-) |
| 20:04.17 | SpinX | so i should just put my windows hdd back in? |
| 20:04.24 | peterS | SpinX: should be supported in unstable, but probably not in sarge/stable |
| 20:04.31 | SpinX | blah |
| 20:04.34 | streuner | !unichrome |
| 20:04.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, unichrome is the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. |
| 20:04.42 | stew | vir3: Fraunhofer has a patent in germany for example |
| 20:04.55 | SpinX | streuner could you help me with it? |
| 20:05.03 | streuner | SpinX: heh? no |
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| 20:05.12 | streuner | SpinX: try VESA |
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| 20:05.18 | SpinX | ? |
| 20:05.22 | peterS | SpinX: there is an x.org backport for sarge *somewhere*. I forget where.... |
| 20:05.29 | streuner | SpinX: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and choose 'VESA' |
| 20:05.34 | SpinX | kk. |
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| 20:06.08 | peterS | SpinX: ahhh, "/msg dpkg xorg sarge" - I *think* recent debian x.org packages support your chip |
| 20:06.15 | SpinX | brb |
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| 20:07.10 | BiBe | i've 2 partitions on my secondary master drive: / is mounted on the 1st and /swap on the second. but fdisk shows 3 partitions, two beginning on the same sectors. why? |
| 20:08.23 | ircops | BiBe: what does df say the mount points are? |
| 20:08.57 | fbi | fdisk doesn't show mount points. |
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| 20:09.08 | muhoo | stew: ok, flooding away |
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| 20:09.57 | fbi | BiBe are they both the same device name? |
| 20:10.09 | chump | Hi where can I apt-get the 2.6.13 smp kernel ? |
| 20:10.09 | fbi | that's bizarre |
| 20:10.16 | stew | chump: it hasn't been pacakged yet |
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| 20:10.40 | ircops | chump: you have to compile it |
| 20:10.46 | muhoo | basically, it can't shut down mysql because mysqld isn't running, and then it loses control of its bladder |
| 20:10.51 | BiBe | it's itc1, hdc2 and swap on hdc5 |
| 20:10.53 | AbsolutZer0 | well I guess I am going to have to reformat and install windows... |
| 20:10.59 | BiBe | itc=hdc, sorry |
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| 20:11.09 | chump | ircops: thanks |
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| 20:11.25 | toolbox | hello everyone |
| 20:11.26 | ircops | chump: /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
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| 20:11.39 | damianmigo | hi |
| 20:11.41 | damianmigo | Witch command or combination of commands can I use to get the nth line of a text file ? |
| 20:11.59 | row2 | Hi there I installed snmpd and lm_sensors on my unstable debian box they work fine on their own just wondering how do I enable the lm_sensors mib in the mibs folder in /usr/share/snmp/ ? |
| 20:12.10 | chump | ircops: is that all I need to do? with the source |
| 20:12.15 | AbsolutZer0 | crap I am having all kinds of problems, xwine says it cont' open display |
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| 20:12.43 | ircops | !tell chump about compile kernel |
| 20:12.57 | BiBe | fbi: query? |
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| 20:13.23 | fbi | i have msgs turned off |
| 20:13.40 | fbi | you should not have two partitions, starting on the same sector |
| 20:13.41 | nite613 | damianmigo: cat <file> | head -<linnenum> | tail -1 |
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| 20:13.50 | nite613 | not exactly efficient, but it works |
| 20:13.55 | chump | ircops: thanks! |
| 20:13.56 | takatumi | AbsolutZer0: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 20:13.57 | damianmigo | thks |
| 20:14.01 | SpinX | streuner, X is working... images are a bit.. dotty looking. |
| 20:14.03 | fbi | maybe you borked the disk geometry before partitioning or something |
| 20:14.08 | fbi | i have no idea |
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| 20:14.22 | streuner | SpinX: using VESA? |
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| 20:14.26 | toolbox | Can someone who is familiar with the subject point me to a link that would make a dual boot installation of debian relatively painless. I've forgotten all the dual booting procedures and am afraid of hosing my current "other" OS. This one thing is keeping me away from Debian. |
| 20:14.28 | SpinX | yeah.. as far as i know. :P |
| 20:14.32 | ircops | chump: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s05.html.en for more help |
| 20:14.52 | muhoo | ok. so how do i remove a package that dpkg --remove refuses to remove? |
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| 20:15.02 | AbsolutZer0 | aha |
| 20:15.04 | streuner | SpinX: ok, you have 2 options, try peterS advice and download xorg for sarge (/msg dpkg xorg sarge) |
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| 20:15.11 | towelrod | i'm confused about testing vs. stable now... why would stable have more recent versions of packages? |
| 20:15.14 | shadowcat | toolbox: dual booting with what? |
| 20:15.22 | shadowcat | towelrod: it doesn't |
| 20:15.24 | mwilson | towelrod: It wouldn't. |
| 20:15.28 | streuner | SpinX: OR visit website and install those driver for your videocard (/msg dpkg unichrome) |
| 20:15.30 | towelrod | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdelibs4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
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| 20:15.34 | towelrod | that's what I thought too |
| 20:15.37 | toolbox | hi shadowcat: with xp home |
| 20:15.39 | towelrod | but kdelibs4 is newer in stable |
| 20:15.49 | shadowcat | no it isn't |
| 20:15.49 | mwilson | it's not. |
| 20:15.51 | SpinX | ok |
| 20:15.54 | chump | ircops: thanks I'll read it, will it tell me where to get the kernel source? |
| 20:15.57 | shadowcat | that's a security update |
| 20:16.02 | stew | towelrod: stable will sometimes have newer versions of packages becuase stable gets security updates and currently testing does not |
| 20:16.04 | shadowcat | read the label in aptitude next time |
| 20:16.05 | ircops | chump: http://www.kernel.org |
| 20:16.05 | towelrod | 4:3.3.2-6.2 isn't newer than 4:3.3.2-6.1? |
| 20:16.08 | toolbox | shadowcat: on an hp laptop |
| 20:16.16 | towelrod | hmm |
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| 20:16.22 | shadowcat | toolbox: so just install Debian |
| 20:16.27 | muhoo | i must have installed that dotdeb version of mysql4.1 years ago when i was still stuck on woody which only had mysql 4.0 |
| 20:16.40 | shadowcat | if you really wanted to run bleeding edge KDE |
| 20:16.42 | toolbox | shadowcat: it will partition itself thesedays? |
| 20:16.43 | ircops | chump: you want the "latest stable release" |
| 20:16.45 | shadowcat | try KDE 3.4.2 in unstable |
| 20:16.55 | shadowcat | toolbox: boot with the cd and follow the instructions |
| 20:17.03 | Blissex | shadowcat: thats an evil suggestion :-). |
| 20:17.04 | chump | ircops: I'm going for2.6.14-rc1-mm1 |
| 20:17.04 | towelrod | i am fairly sure 4:3.3.2-6.2 was a security fix, but that kinda leaves testing users out to dry right? |
| 20:17.05 | shadowcat | the installer is pretty straight forward |
| 20:17.12 | shadowcat | Blissex: true |
| 20:17.14 | towelrod | i need to install the kdelibs4-dev package so i can do some compiling |
| 20:17.15 | BiBe | ah, ok. in my book are 2 hdd's. primary and secondary master. on the first hdd are 5 partitions. hd1-hda2: ntfs for windows, hda3: /boot, hda4: / and hda5: /swap. fdisk tells, there's is a 6th (hda6) beginning on the same sector then hda4. on the 2nd hdd there are 2 partitions: hdc1: / and hdc5: /swap. but fdisk tells, there are 3. the 3rd (hdc2) beginning on same sector then hdc2. why? |
| 20:17.17 | shadowcat | but I was proving a point |
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| 20:17.30 | Blissex | shadowcat: :-) |
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| 20:17.46 | shadowcat | personally, I'm gonna upgrade to 3.4.2 in a few weeks |
| 20:17.46 | AbsolutZer0 | does Sarge support auto-matic hardware discovery? |
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| 20:17.50 | toolbox | shadowcat: what about downloading, do I need a CD for some reason? |
| 20:17.52 | Blissex | BiBe: thats probably by chance, and a bit dangerous. |
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| 20:17.58 | AbsolutZer0 | I really hate having to xf86config and modprobe... |
| 20:17.59 | ircops | chump: *shrug* your choice |
| 20:18.19 | shadowcat | toolbox: how new are you to linux? |
| 20:18.22 | Blissex | AbsolutZer0: it does a lot of that, more than previous releases. |
| 20:18.23 | BiBe | hmm, is there a alternative to fdisk? |
| 20:18.32 | Blissex | BiBe: several... |
| 20:18.34 | fbi | BiBe: cfdisk |
| 20:18.35 | stew | BiBe: cfdisk |
| 20:18.43 | takatumi | AbsolutZer0: copy your knoppix xfree/xorg conf file to be on the safe side. |
| 20:18.46 | chump | ircops: I understand cpusets is in this version |
| 20:18.50 | toolbox | shadowcat: not new, but been away for about 3 years or so |
| 20:18.53 | BiBe | ahh... cfdisk tells it correctly.. |
| 20:19.03 | BiBe | hm... why dows fdisk lie? |
| 20:19.06 | BiBe | ;) |
| 20:19.09 | Blissex | BiBe: «correctly» is not quite true. |
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| 20:19.21 | toolbox | shadowcat: i have forgotten a lot |
| 20:19.23 | BiBe | hm? |
| 20:19.30 | Blissex | BiBe: 'cfdisk' often gives a simplified picture. Probably 'fdisk' is more accurate. |
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| 20:19.51 | Blissex | BiBe: in any case the ''gold standard'' of partitioners is 'sfdisk''. |
| 20:20.25 | toolbox | Blissex: san francisco fdisk? :0=-) |
| 20:20.29 | toolbox | :-) |
| 20:20.30 | peterS | toolbox: scriptable |
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| 20:20.38 | Blissex | BiBe: which is hard to use, but is very accurate. try 'sfdisk -l /dev/hd[ac]' to see what your partitions really look like. |
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| 20:21.35 | SpinX | http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~glaweh/debian/ < isn't working. |
| 20:21.36 | toolbox | peterS: what is scriptable? |
| 20:21.45 | peterS | toolbox: that's what the s in sfdisk means. scriptable fdisk |
| 20:21.58 | BiBe | sfdisk says the same as fdisk. only cfdisk shows it like i've set up... hmm |
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| 20:22.23 | SpinX | added to sources, didn't work. |
| 20:22.23 | ryness | i'm migrating a server from win2k/iis to sarge/apache2 and i need to change all the links in all the webfiles from .asp to .php... any recommendations on the best way to do that? |
| 20:22.26 | BiBe | on the 2nd hdd partition table was written by debains default.. |
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| 20:22.33 | peterS | BiBe: as Blissex said, cfdisk shows a somewhat simplified picture. you just don't understand how partition tables work, so the details given by fdisk / sfdisk don't make sense to you |
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| 20:22.46 | Gathond | BiBe: my personaly inclination is to believe fdisk and think htat cfdisk just chooses to ignore stuff |
| 20:22.48 | peterS | BiBe: at least, that's likely |
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| 20:23.07 | toolbox | peterS: oh, i see |
| 20:23.40 | Gathond | BiBe: that said I seem to remember cfdisk having some idea about only having one primary partition and making every other partition logical, without telling you it did it |
| 20:24.05 | Blissex | SpinX: thanks for letting us know. all our psychic advisors are busy on other lines, we'll call you back. |
| 20:24.40 | BiBe | hmm, but can anyone tell me why there are two partitions beginning on same sector of one hdd, although partition table was written by debian's default? |
| 20:24.41 | abrotman | it tells you .. |
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| 20:24.52 | SpinX | Blissex, thanks for being an asshole! |
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| 20:25.04 | abrotman | BiBe: one is logical .. the other extended .. the extended reside in the logical .. or maybe i have that backwards |
| 20:25.05 | toolbox | well, i may have to go back to partition magic which i was hoping to avoid. I would have thought Debian would have had this dual booting thing totally down by now. |
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| 20:25.08 | abrotman | but it's the right idea |
| 20:25.09 | Blissex | SpinX: alternatively you can consider reading these suggestions http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask less dumb questions. |
| 20:25.23 | SpinX | Blissex, true. or i could ignore yo. |
| 20:25.27 | abrotman | you |
| 20:25.28 | Gathond | BiBe: because that is how (probably anyway) logical partitions work |
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| 20:25.46 | muhoo | looks like the mysql-server-4.1 install worked |
| 20:25.52 | streuner | SpinX: what's the URL about? pysik.berln? |
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| 20:26.01 | streuner | SpinX: what's the URL about? pysik.berlin? xorg or unichrome? |
| 20:26.09 | SpinX | unichrome.. i got it now. |
| 20:26.13 | Gathond | BiBe: basically the reverse of abrotmans :) one extended partition inside which the logical ones (in your case only one) resides therefore they overlap |
| 20:26.19 | badcoder | anyone has used dd to mirror a disk ? |
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| 20:26.51 | mohkohn | I am running testing which I installed using Debian From Scatch. Having problems with sound and removable media |
| 20:27.08 | ircops | wow |
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| 20:27.12 | muhoo | heh. scatch. |
| 20:27.16 | ircops | :D |
| 20:27.22 | Blissex | mohkohn: good, good. Because 'testing' is s distribution and is guaranteed to be complete and consistent... |
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| 20:27.46 | gozz | has anyone had a problem with kallsyms data ? |
| 20:28.04 | Blissex | gozz: someone with a nickname <gozz> probably. |
| 20:28.13 | mohkohn | I had the sound going yesterday but it seems to have dissapeared on me :( |
| 20:28.30 | Blissex | mohkohn: being slightly more specific may be helpful. |
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| 20:28.37 | abrotman | Gathond: i said it might be reversed! |
| 20:28.39 | BiBe | hm, ok. thx a lot for detailed explanations! |
| 20:28.47 | kaiowa_ | hi, always that i install app with apt , at the end i get this err and not install app ->>update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/xfree86-common exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) |
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| 20:28.56 | Gathond | abrotman: yes yes :) |
| 20:29.15 | fbi | kaiowa_: maybe you should try forcing it then? |
| 20:29.25 | djp | the music player in debian 3.1 (rhythmbox) seems to cut off the end of a few songs, i think those that tend to blend into the next. is this a usual problem with rhythmbox? |
| 20:29.28 | Gathond | abrotman: sorry if it came out as me claiming otherwise |
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| 20:29.37 | Blissex | kaiowa_: uh, messing with 'testing' and/or 'unstable'? |
| 20:29.38 | ircops | :P |
| 20:29.41 | mohkohn | Yesterday in my volume control I had two tabs instead of one...if that makes sense |
| 20:29.53 | gozz | when i compile the kernel i get Inconsistent kallsyms data anyone know how to fix it? |
| 20:29.54 | mohkohn | connexant id oss mixer bla di bla |
| 20:29.54 | ircops | sorry... it doesn't |
| 20:30.04 | kaiowa_ | with testing, i get after install xorg |
| 20:30.05 | Gathond | BiBe: of cause the POS which is cfdisk hides this decission to use logical partitions from the user (the main reason I dont use it anymore) |
| 20:30.15 | Blissex | gozz: thats a bit odd. How are you compiling the kernel? |
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| 20:30.52 | gozz | with make bzImage |
| 20:30.53 | FarrisG | Is there a decent server-side daemon to scan/remove viruses on a debian using postfix? |
| 20:30.53 | Blissex | kaiowa_: unfortunately 'testing' is in a mess because it is early in the release cycle... |
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| 20:31.01 | gozz | like the tut says |
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| 20:31.14 | mohkohn | In alsamixer I have everything maxed. Nothing is muted |
| 20:31.31 | fbi | mohkohn: what kernel are you running |
| 20:31.33 | ircops | mohkohn: take off the switch that says "headphone jack autosense" |
| 20:31.35 | Blissex | kaiowa_: a true guru like you that dares to use 'testing' in the middle of several ABI/package collection transactions can surely fix all such problem himself... |
| 20:31.37 | fbi | i don't even know what 'debian from scratch is' |
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| 20:31.53 | ircops | mohkohn: and the switch that says "line jack sense" |
| 20:32.00 | Blissex | fbi: it is Gentoo-infects-Debian probably. |
| 20:32.00 | mohkohn | Linux ren0 2.6.12-1-686 #1 Tue Sep 6 15:10:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:32.08 | fbi | ah. |
| 20:32.14 | fbi | so you have to compile everything from source? |
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| 20:32.24 | ircops | hehehe |
| 20:32.25 | fbi | if so, i'll never be installing that |
| 20:32.34 | ircops | just don't try a DFS net install :D |
| 20:32.43 | ircops | DFS=Debian From Scratch, btw |
| 20:32.47 | takatumi | first you compile the net. |
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| 20:33.00 | whatever | omg, that has to take forever |
| 20:33.00 | mohkohn | ircops, ? |
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| 20:33.23 | gozz | Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS |
| 20:33.23 | gozz | make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 |
| 20:33.25 | ircops | mohkohn: do you have something you can turn on and off that says "headphone jack sense" or "line jack sense" ? |
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| 20:33.31 | Boter | hello |
| 20:33.39 | gozz | how do i do this? |
| 20:33.58 | Boter | i have one question |
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| 20:34.05 | ircops | ask it |
| 20:34.24 | mohkohn | not with that name. I am in gnome. |
| 20:34.34 | Boter | my syslogd file bacame very very big... so i checked stuff and than i deleted it. Now i dont get any new logs. Why is that so? |
| 20:34.52 | Blissex | Boter: you did not restart the log dæmon |
| 20:34.58 | ircops | mohkohn: go to a console and type "alsamixer" |
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| 20:35.09 | Blissex | Boter: make sure you run 'logrotate' and/or it is sensibly configured. |
| 20:35.12 | Boter | what? |
| 20:35.23 | Boter | why schould i |
| 20:35.28 | Boter | i just deleted his log file |
| 20:35.42 | mohkohn | ok everything is maxed. Nothing muted. |
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| 20:36.09 | Boter | ok i figured it out :) |
| 20:36.40 | takatumi | gozz: edit .config and amend that option to read =y, you won't find that option in menuconfig. |
| 20:37.10 | Boter | how can i block some ip's from my box? |
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| 20:37.25 | gozz | ok |
| 20:37.44 | takatumi | gozz: which kernel? |
| 20:38.16 | mohkohn | ircops, what next? |
| 20:38.58 | kijjaz | question: (i'm very new to Debian, and i've just got DeMuDi distribution installed..) so.. now i'm logged in as a user, but how can i log in as 'root'? it doesn't allow at the welcome screen -_- |
| 20:39.25 | row2 | Does anyone know how to enable lm_sensors for the snmpd unstable package? debian/rules impilies the mibs are installed etc but I don't know how to activate them. |
| 20:39.50 | ircops | mohkohn: do you have a column that says "headphone jack sense" when you use the arrow keys to move over to it? |
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| 20:40.15 | mohkohn | row2 you might have to log in as a regular user then su to become superuser. or sudo |
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| 20:40.46 | row2 | mohkohn: to run what command? |
| 20:41.00 | ircops | hehehe |
| 20:41.01 | Gathond | kijjaz: you should not log into X as root, you can use su in a terminal windows to become root, then do whatever you need and close said terminal |
| 20:41.22 | mwilson | kijjaz: demudi is not Debian. |
| 20:41.31 | mohkohn | row2 sorry that was for kijjaz |
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| 20:41.39 | row2 | mohkohn: you done that before ;) |
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| 20:41.55 | mohkohn | ircops, no don't have that. Just line |
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| 20:41.59 | kijjaz | Gathond: wow thanks, so 'su' is what i should type in the terminal? |
| 20:42.09 | kijjaz | mohkohn, thanks too ^^" |
| 20:42.11 | gr8ron | anyone got some information on the latest xfree86 security fix in debian? |
| 20:42.13 | ircops | mohkohn: line jack sense ? |
| 20:42.28 | Gathond | kijjaz: that or sudo, depends on the setup of the distribution and wether you have the root password (though you used debian) |
| 20:42.29 | mohkohn | Item: Line |
| 20:42.33 | jjazz | kijjaz or sudo -s |
| 20:42.45 | mohkohn | nothing about jack sense in alsamixer |
| 20:42.56 | dspstv | donald are you still around? |
| 20:43.07 | kijjaz | jjazz: thx, and hey our name is close lol. |
| 20:43.41 | dspstv | donald i cannot understand what firmware version i have to d/l to get ipw2100 with k2.6.13 to work |
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| 20:44.46 | stew | dspstv: the firmware you need is at ipw2100.sf.net |
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| 20:45.06 | takatumi | you need a specific firmware for .13? |
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| 20:45.28 | stew | takatumi: no, you need specific firmware for whichever version of ipw2100 you installed |
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| 20:45.34 | Yulia | hi.. |
| 20:45.39 | mohkohn | ircops Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 ?? Chip: Conexant id 30 ?? View: [Playback] Capture All Item: Line |
| 20:45.39 | takatumi | stew: ah. |
| 20:45.54 | LightVision | hello |
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| 20:46.16 | mohkohn | Thats what alsamixer shows 1.0.9a if that helps |
| 20:46.16 | meriad | does anyone know of a tool taht'll allow me to convert a WMV to MPG? |
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| 20:46.48 | stew | meriad: either mencoder or transcode should be able to |
| 20:46.51 | SpinX | im still trying. |
| 20:46.59 | LightVision | Im about to reinstall Debian Sarge. But can I backup any folder so that I can then copy this over the new freshly installed folder, so my ppp, kmail, etc settings can be kept? |
| 20:47.01 | Yulia | i am mounting on boot smbfs from windows so mount -t smbfs -o username=yulia //192.168.1.2/htdocs /mnt/ficheros_makina/htdocs |
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| 20:47.03 | Yulia | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.10 | stew | meriad: neither of which are available in debian /msg dpkg marillat |
| 20:47.13 | BobbyGrace | !ieee80211 |
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| 20:47.28 | dspstv | stew yeap im there but i can see 4 diff firmware versions, i should pick one according to the driver version im using now, and thats what i dont know how to find out, i just installed the modules |
| 20:47.39 | stew | dspstv: how did you install them? |
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| 20:47.51 | stew | dspstv: did you use m-a? |
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| 20:48.03 | dspstv | apt-get install ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 |
| 20:48.09 | jjazz | LightVision: keep your ~ directory, for starters |
| 20:48.30 | jjazz | LightVision: but why are you reinstalling? |
| 20:48.32 | stew | dspstv: you installed 2.6.12 modules into 2.6.13? how? that sounds broken |
| 20:48.47 | stew | dspstv: in any case dpkg -l ipw2100--modules-2.6.12 should report the version |
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| 20:49.19 | stew | !+info ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 |
| 20:49.21 | dpkg | Package 'ipw2100-modules-2.6.12' does not exist. |
| 20:49.26 | stew | thought so |
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| 20:49.31 | mohkohn | This is frustrating as hell. This laptop works immediatly with ubuntu and kanotix. Would there be a way to copy my kanotix settings across? |
| 20:49.34 | woodland | ls |
| 20:49.35 | peterS | maybe ipw2100-modules-2.6.12-1-k7 or similar |
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| 20:50.04 | dspstv | stew someone said that as long i use the latest version of wireless-tools the thing will work |
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| 20:50.10 | kijjaz | Gathond: are you free to answer me some more questions (newbie things) ^^" |
| 20:50.14 | mohkohn | My alsa settings for anyone just joining. |
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| 20:50.28 | SpinX | peterS, what was your option earlier about VIA? |
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| 20:50.41 | woodland | can i use wireless on kernel 2.4 |
| 20:50.41 | LightVision | jjazz: whats ~ directory? |
| 20:50.43 | BiBe | another question: there're 2 partitions on hdc. the 1st with reiser, and the 2nd for /swap. while booting the kenel stops because: "sh-2021: reiserfs_read_super: can not find reiserfs on ide0(3,1)" i guess hdc1 is ide1(1,1). where can i fix this disc infomrmation? |
| 20:50.51 | peterS | SpinX: I have no opinion since I have no experience with that line of chips. I *think* x.org is supposed to support them in recent debian releases. |
| 20:50.54 | jjazz | LightVision: /home/lightvision or whatever |
| 20:50.56 | eeyore- | dspstv: i've got ipw2100 working under 2.6.13, but it's gentoo and you probably won't like it. the ipw2100 driver has a quirk, it wants to scan/associate on loading (unless you tell it not to) and this tends to associate with WEP-less AP's first |
| 20:51.06 | LightVision | jjazz: and what abolut /etc? |
| 20:51.08 | TinMan | *dies* Anyone care to help me tackle my wireless card? I haven't been able to get it to work. I've ndiswrapper'ed and modprobed and that makes the link light flash, but it's not obtaining an IP address. I also don't appear to have iwtools and can't find them in the repository? anyways... WAP is my next step, but does anyone have any idea where I can get iwtools? |
| 20:51.12 | stew | dspstv: you installed ipw2100-source? what pacakge? |
| 20:51.22 | Irrlicht | @Lightvision: ~ directory = $HOME |
| 20:51.29 | SpinX | i've installed unichrome. |
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| 20:51.32 | nomed | hi |
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| 20:51.54 | woodland | can i use wireless on kernel 2.4 |
| 20:51.59 | ryness | i'm migrating a server from win2k/iis to sarge/apache2 and i need to change all the links in all the webfiles from .asp to .php... any recommendations on the best way to do that? |
| 20:52.21 | nomed | i use an rc2.d runlevel script to startx "/usr/bin/X11/startx -- -dpi 94" - $USER" ... |
| 20:52.25 | jjazz | LightVision: I would grab the usual /etc files that have to be tinkered with on new installs |
| 20:52.34 | eeyore- | ryness: how are you going to execute the scripts later? |
| 20:52.39 | dspstv | !+info ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 |
| 20:52.40 | abrotman | woodland: depending on the card .. yes |
| 20:52.40 | dpkg | Package 'ipw2100-modules-2.6.12' does not exist. |
| 20:52.43 | LightVision | If I reinstall Debian Sarge, is there a way to keep my my kppp and dial settings, kmail, etc settings etc? |
| 20:52.51 | nomed | the problem is that when i try init 0 it just kill X and shows me a login prompt from tty1 |
| 20:52.53 | abrotman | dspstv: in sarge/etch/sid ? |
| 20:52.55 | ryness | eeyore- via apache, they're all webpages |
| 20:52.58 | nomed | how can i solve this? |
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| 20:53.01 | woodland | abrotman, i use broadcom wireless card |
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| 20:53.04 | jjazz | LightVision: yes. Save their config files in ~ and in /etc |
| 20:53.06 | dspstv | sarge |
| 20:53.20 | humbraro | ryness: i seem to remember an asp to php converter, but i cant remember what its called |
| 20:53.20 | abrotman | woodland: if the silly thing .. uhn .. ndiswrapper works in 2.4 .. then you should be able to |
| 20:53.28 | abrotman | !find ipw2100 sarge |
| 20:53.30 | dpkg | ipw2100-source: (source for the ipw2100 driver), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 134 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 20:53.33 | eeyore- | ryness: btw, another option is to not touch the ref= links, you can still make php interpret *.asp files (well, assuming it's actually in PHP syntax, that is) |
| 20:53.35 | abrotman | !ipw2100 |
| 20:53.35 | dpkg | ipw2100 is probably a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: 'apt-get install ipw2100-source', build with module-assistant. Download and install the firmware as you get told during install. For help try #ipw2100 or http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net. |
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| 20:53.50 | abrotman | dspstv: you need contrib sources |
| 20:53.51 | dspstv | eeyore- i have it also running under gentoo, havent seen that wierd behaviour you describe..very good result on kismet thought |
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| 20:54.01 | LightVision | jjazz: so when I install Debian, I then simply copy over /home and /etc with the backup? |
| 20:54.02 | eeyore- | ryness: i did that when i converted our previous sloppy-as-hell webjob from a windoze shop, just rewrote the scripts in php syntax and AddType it |
| 20:54.08 | ryness | humbraro i don't need to convert the actual asp code, just find and replace inside files to change ".asp" to ".php" |
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| 20:54.21 | dspstv | abrotman i will look for that, but still, have you tried it under 2.6.13 |
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| 20:54.25 | dspstv | ? |
| 20:54.25 | ryness | eeyore- you did AddType for ".asp" ? |
| 20:54.28 | eeyore- | dspstv: did you hardcode essid_wlan0=... or use "any"? |
| 20:54.31 | eeyore- | ryness: yeah |
| 20:54.32 | jjazz | LightVision: I don't know why you're reinstalling, so I can't answer that. |
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| 20:54.42 | TinMan | test |
| 20:54.47 | gozz | takatumi did what ya told me and restarted the make and now it needs to know if i eant it to include all symbols y/n ? |
| 20:54.49 | stew | dspstv: how did you install it? |
| 20:54.49 | jjazz | LightVision: Why don't you just fix whatever is broken instead of blowing up the whole system? |
| 20:54.51 | ryness | but didn't that leave you with .asp files? ew! ;) |
| 20:54.54 | dspstv | eeyore- any mostly |
| 20:54.55 | slashzul | anyone ever get a NMI received message from the Linux 2.6 kernel ? |
| 20:54.59 | shuo | hi |
| 20:55.06 | eeyore- | ryness: they're "called" .asp, but so what? :) i'm lazy |
| 20:55.11 | dspstv | stew via apt-get.. |
| 20:55.12 | ryness | i dig |
| 20:55.18 | ryness | thx for the advice |
| 20:55.19 | shuo | could someone do a query on imapsync for me? |
| 20:55.24 | eeyore- | dspstv: when i use "any", the ipw binds to neighbour's APs mostly :) |
| 20:55.29 | LightVision | jjazz: be silent before I place a firecracker down your pants |
| 20:55.30 | shuo | to apt that is |
| 20:55.32 | eeyore- | dspstv: untill i tell the module not to associate |
| 20:55.35 | dspstv | eeyore- ) |
| 20:55.36 | TinMan | hey ^^ I just installed waproamd and my lights appear to be constantly flashing... but my d-link g630 rev c still does not have a connection. Any ideas? |
| 20:55.41 | stew | dspstv: how? what pacakge did you install? |
| 20:55.43 | LightVision | jjazz: mind your own business and go away troll. |
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| 20:55.51 | dspstv | ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 |
| 20:55.59 | dspstv | apt-get install ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 |
| 20:56.00 | stew | dspstv: where did you get that? not from debian? |
| 20:56.11 | LightVision | jjazz = James Vasile = troll |
| 20:56.20 | dspstv | of course is debian |
| 20:56.24 | TinMan | dspstv, is that for me? |
| 20:56.26 | dspstv | ahh |
| 20:56.27 | slashzul | anyone ever get a NMI received message from the Linux 2.6 kernel ? |
| 20:56.33 | stew | dspstv: if that is the case, then you should be able to get the version info out of /usr/share/doc/ipw2100-modules-2.6.12/ |
| 20:56.39 | peterS | slashzul: no. you are the first in the history of kernels |
| 20:56.43 | gozz | should i load all symbols or not? |
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| 20:56.48 | Yulia | if i mount them as root during de session it does not ask for pass: mount -t smbfs -o username=yulia //192.168.1.2/htdocs /mnt/ficheros_makina/htdocs |
| 20:56.50 | shuo | Ok. |
| 20:56.54 | jjazz | LightVision: Whatever. |
| 20:56.56 | shuo | Thanks everyone. |
| 20:57.06 | stew | dspstv: but if all you did was install some 2.6.12 module package i don't think you should expect it to work with 2.6.13 |
| 20:57.09 | dspstv | stew it has all this data: ipw2100-modules-2.6.1 1.1.0-1+morphix.1 |
| 20:57.11 | slashzul | ok. how do you turn "parity off" on a kernel message? |
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| 20:57.17 | woodland | hi, i just compiled kernel 2.6 using 'make install' 'make modules' 'make modules_install' and 'make bzImage' |
| 20:57.20 | stew | dspstv: you are in the wrong channel |
| 20:57.30 | dspstv | uhmm |
| 20:57.32 | LightVision | jjazz: i have very good reasons for reinstalling, so dont bother or focus on that! focus just on the question. ok? |
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| 20:57.41 | woodland | and i am rying to write /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:57.45 | jjazz | LightVision: Whatever. |
| 20:57.49 | dspstv | why? |
| 20:57.51 | woodland | what should i write there |
| 20:58.00 | interbird | Oops! -- My Gimp has lost it's print menu-item -- Can anyone help me ? |
| 20:58.04 | dogwater | What is the deal with apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp installing a broken kernel? |
| 20:58.05 | stew | dspstv: becuase you are running morphix, not debian |
| 20:58.10 | LightVision | jjazz: and change your name from James Vasile to whatever |
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| 20:58.15 | dspstv | im on debian here, and those packages are coming from my sources list |
| 20:58.27 | LightVision | interbird: reinstall gimp |
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| 20:58.28 | dspstv | imnot running morphix |
| 20:58.44 | stew | dspstv: you have non debian sources |
| 20:58.50 | jjazz | LightVision: Is reinstalling your solution to everything? |
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| 20:59.06 | dspstv | so if it not pure is not debian? |
| 20:59.07 | eeyore- | jjazz: maybe he "chown -R foo:foo /" :-) |
| 20:59.10 | stew | dspstv: there is no debian package named ipw2100-modules-2.6.12 and if tehre was, it wouldn't have a version string like 1.1.0-1+morphix.1 |
| 20:59.19 | LightVision | jjazz: be silent and go away troll |
| 20:59.20 | stew | dspstv: correct |
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| 20:59.26 | dspstv | sounds like racism (joking) |
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| 20:59.32 | interbird | LightVision: Yeh, but removing from Synaptic wants to remove a lot I don't want removed, like Gnome. |
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| 21:00.02 | LightVision | interbird: type this "apt-get remove --purge gimp" |
| 21:00.11 | eeyore- | LightVision: if you're going to abuse another member, do it in private |
| 21:00.19 | dogwater | gah |
| 21:00.21 | LightVision | eeyore-: ok |
| 21:00.32 | jjazz | eeyore-: I suppose that's possible. I was imagining some weird scenario where he tried to apt-get ubuntu on top of his knoppix install or something. |
| 21:00.40 | dogwater | am i doing something wrong? I have a dual xeon box here with a software raid-1 array and I try to install the 686-smp kernel and when i reboot it gives me a bunch of funky errors |
| 21:00.45 | takatumi | woodland: you should be using kernel-package, it creates a .deb and upon installation menu.lst is automatically updated. |
| 21:00.46 | mwilson | jjazz: It wouldn't be the first time. |
| 21:00.54 | LightVision | jjazz: dont assume, assuming doesnt give you the truth. |
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| 21:01.04 | Yulia | anyone can tell me how to mount this mount -t smbfs -o username=yulia //192.168.1.2/datos /mnt/ficheros_makina/datos |
| 21:01.06 | Yulia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.13 | woodland | ok |
| 21:01.20 | wam | Hi! What is the preferred way to have "default" subleveldomains in bind9 for *some* domains? In my config, I "include" via the "file"-statement. I'd like to have multiple of those to include default subleveldomains - like "www", "smtp" or "sql". Is this legal? |
| 21:01.30 | interbird | LightVision: Same as Synaptic; want's to remove gnome and gnome-office. |
| 21:01.37 | jjazz | mwilson: I bet you're right. I gotta say, though, it would be cool if it were that easy to switch distros. |
| 21:01.56 | eeyore- | jjazz: i once "strip /lib/lib*.so*", oops |
| 21:01.57 | Wonko | Hi! Anyone experienced that clicking on a link in Firefox it stops at "Waiting..." and you have to abort and click again? It has been more frequent recently. |
| 21:02.02 | eeyore- | jjazz: that's another good reason for reinstall |
| 21:02.08 | shingouz | interbird: gnome and gnome-office are metapackages. |
| 21:02.30 | dogwater | piece of shit |
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| 21:02.56 | interbird | LightVision: Kee, should I reinstall them together with the reinstallation of Gimp ? |
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| 21:03.35 | mwilson | interbird: Why in the world are you removing gimp? |
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| 21:03.56 | jjazz | eeyore-: yep. That's a good reason. I just reinstalled a Windows box because of rampant adware infection. Thankfully Debian isn't a target of such things. |
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| 21:04.06 | interbird | mwilson: Open your other eye and scroll a bit up... :-) |
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| 21:04.18 | dogwater | Man i hate distributions that cant pack working kernels |
| 21:04.18 | mwilson | interbird: I have. Thus, the question. |
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| 21:04.28 | LightVision | interbird: no idea, sorry |
| 21:04.47 | slashzul | especially debian - keeps locking my server |
| 21:04.49 | slashzul | POS |
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| 21:04.59 | slashzul | http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2003-28/0295.html |
| 21:05.03 | interbird | LightVision: Kee, thanx. |
| 21:05.10 | LightVision | interbird: kee? |
| 21:05.10 | wam | bind9: Can I have multiple "file"-statements in a zone? |
| 21:05.11 | slashzul | guess everyons been getting bad kernel dumps |
| 21:05.14 | slashzul | NMI shit |
| 21:05.20 | slashzul | and no followups or fixed |
| 21:05.22 | slashzul | and no followups or fixes |
| 21:05.26 | slashzul | SHIT AND SHIT AGAIN |
| 21:05.28 | fbi | why don't you cry about it? |
| 21:05.33 | pngwn | heh |
| 21:05.34 | mwilson | interbird: Never mind... apparently the agenda of the day is reinstalling rather than fixing things. |
| 21:05.42 | interbird | mwilson: Well, because Gimp don't print no more -- print item gone. |
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| 21:06.05 | interbird | mwilson: Tried to fix it for a day -- tiered... |
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| 21:06.20 | interbird | LightVision: Kee means OK. |
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| 21:07.08 | jjazz | mwilson: You have to admit, it streamlines the decision tree |
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| 21:07.44 | eeyore- | mwilson: well, i'm here reinstalling some crap windows software ... |
| 21:07.47 | interbird | mwilson: So, can you supersede my Google searches and help me fix this problem -- would like that much more than reinstalling. |
| 21:07.48 | eeyore- | but that doesn't count :) |
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| 21:08.09 | LillDude_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.17 | LightVision | interbird: kee means ok in what language? |
| 21:08.31 | interbird | LightVision: Dutch |
| 21:08.34 | dspstv | q71 i got it |
| 21:08.36 | dspstv | ) |
| 21:08.42 | LightVision | eeyore-: are you a developer for Debian? |
| 21:08.42 | pusling | hmm.. is creative commons license free as in dfsg ? |
| 21:08.42 | Boter | hm |
| 21:08.44 | mwilson | interbird: No, no, feel free. |
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| 21:08.52 | dondelelcaro | pusling: no, it's not. |
| 21:08.57 | LightVision | interbird: ok, but I didnt know this was a Dutch channel |
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| 21:09.08 | gozz | does anyone know how to get around the kallsyms data error i did set the extra pass option and still got the error could somone please help? |
| 21:09.15 | Boter | if i give apt-get remove something ... it is steel in /etc/ dir... how can i completly delete it? |
| 21:09.18 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: hello :) hoew have you been? |
| 21:09.21 | pusling | dondelelcaro: hmm... do you know why or is it just the way it is ? |
| 21:09.31 | eeyore- | LightVision: no |
| 21:09.44 | LightVision | eeyore-: are you an op? |
| 21:09.47 | wam | can I have a <include>-statement inside a zone-definition in bind9? |
| 21:09.48 | dondelelcaro | pusling: there are multiple reasons; search google for cc dfsg debian legal |
| 21:10.01 | eeyore- | LightVision: yes |
| 21:10.10 | dondelelcaro | pusling: specifically http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/04/msg00031.html |
| 21:10.11 | eeyore- | or, last i checked |
| 21:10.24 | eeyore- | someone could have taken away my ophood :) |
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| 21:10.36 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: If I reinstall Debian Sarge, is there a way to keep my my kppp and dial settings, kmail settings, etc ? what would I backup and then copy over the new install? |
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| 21:10.42 | interbird | mwilson: Well, everything worked fine under 2.8.2 with gnome 2.8 -- update to 2.6.12-6 with gnome 2.10 seems to have broken the gnomeprint... |
| 21:10.44 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: why are you reinstalling? |
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| 21:11.00 | jjazz | oh, this is gonna be good. |
| 21:11.05 | eeyore- | hehe |
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| 21:11.22 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: because I am changing hard drives, from my current to a new one |
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| 21:11.36 | MoodGladeGal | Anyone know what would prevent a ssh login from a LAN IP with iptables? |
| 21:11.43 | eeyore- | get this, a stupid app (and we've seen those) that pops up a "critical dialog" (windoze) with "OK" button, empty string. yeah. "OK" to what, genius? |
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| 21:12.00 | eeyore- | then it pops up "OK" and "CANCEL". riiiiight. bunch of geniuses wrote this shit software (iPass) |
| 21:12.04 | LillDude_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.05 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: is there a way so I can install Debian and then keep my current settings for kppp, kmail etc? |
| 21:12.13 | chump | Hi I'm in make menuconfig for the 2.6.13 kernel where is SMP support? |
| 21:12.17 | interbird | mwilson: Excuse: kernel 2.6.8... |
| 21:12.18 | Boter | anybody? |
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| 21:12.29 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: so just stick in the new harddrive, format it appropriately, and either rsync -a; cp -a; or use tar to copy the data over to the new drive. |
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| 21:12.45 | cheal | Boter: try --purge |
| 21:12.55 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: and what about the boot sector and grub menu? |
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| 21:13.17 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: the boot sector you get by running grub on the new drive; the menu gets copied over in the rsync or cp step. |
| 21:13.20 | eeyore- | LightVision: let's take a step back ... generally, *applications* will save user-specific settings files. these files will be in $HOME (users' homes), so backing up/restoring is easy |
| 21:13.21 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: isnt there a boot sector pointer that also needs to be copied? |
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| 21:13.37 | eeyore- | LightVision: for things that keep settings in global /etc directory, it's trickier |
| 21:13.37 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: ok |
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| 21:13.43 | LillDude_ | liable |
| 21:13.47 | LightVision | eeyore-: ok |
| 21:13.50 | eeyore- | LightVision: because if you just backup /etc and restore /etc, you'll likely restore too many things |
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| 21:14.08 | eeyore- | LightVision: but, if you're not anal-retentive about restoring unnecessary files, go for it |
| 21:14.11 | LightVision | eeyore-: I understand. so what could I do? |
| 21:14.14 | LillDude_ | how doi i gu clam av? |
| 21:14.20 | LightVision | eeyore-: ok |
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| 21:14.35 | eeyore- | LightVision: well, it's up to you to backup specific files/directories from /etc, in that case :) |
| 21:14.41 | LightVision | eeyore-: so I can install debian, and then just copy over /home and /etc ? |
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| 21:15.02 | eeyore- | LightVision: if you "copy over /etc", you might overwrite important files with something inappropriate |
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| 21:15.07 | LightVision | eeyore-: is it possible to just copy over the whole /etc? |
| 21:15.08 | eeyore- | LightVision: you're not trying to understand |
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| 21:15.12 | SimonRaven | probably hit h/w limits first if an older box |
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| 21:15.18 | eeyore- | LightVision: if you want a "yes" or "no" answer, i will have to say, "no" |
| 21:15.19 | [ws] | The system cant find my 9th disk. Should be /dev/sdi ? |
| 21:15.27 | LightVision | eeyore-: ok |
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| 21:15.49 | SimonRaven | [ws]: yes |
| 21:16.15 | mohkohn | I tried "apt-get --purge remove alsa-base alsa-utils" but all I get is Simon and Garfunkel... |
| 21:16.20 | stew | [ws]: you might want to try "dmesg | grep sd" ; and/or fdisk -l |
| 21:16.23 | mohkohn | The sound of silence! |
| 21:16.23 | sn00p | How do I get stop X from loading right away when I start debian? |
| 21:16.24 | eeyore- | ligtvh: think for a little bit here. let's say you repartition and reinstall linux ... it'll likely be in different partitions, right? if you should copy the entire /etc, what happens to /etc/fstab? old fstab? does it apply to this new installation? this is just *one* file, there are others |
| 21:16.30 | eeyore- | LightVision: ^^^ |
| 21:16.32 | stew | sn00p: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 21:16.39 | interbird | LightVision: I ain't a Dutch channel, and Kee isn't actually Dutch -- it's shot for OK which iitself is short for O Kay -- an alias for All Right... Right ? |
| 21:16.45 | [ws] | Attached scsi disk sdi at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 |
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| 21:16.51 | eeyore- | LightVision: what about files in /etc that are hardcoded to the old computer (some gnome files contain hostnames in them, last i looked) |
| 21:17.02 | eeyore- | LightVision: so, i'm afraid "copying over the entire /etc" is a stupid idea |
| 21:17.09 | [ws] | but fdisk shows nothing |
| 21:17.24 | eeyore- | interbird: "aight" |
| 21:17.46 | ircops | MmMMmmMMmm... Linux tablet PC :P |
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| 21:17.54 | LightVision | eeyore-: ok i understand! so how would I find out where my kppp and kmail setting are kept! ill just back them up then |
| 21:17.56 | interbird | eeyore: That's the spirit ! :-) |
| 21:17.59 | SimonRaven | [ws]: probably just partition table / map stuff.. |
| 21:18.06 | slack7384 | Could anyone comment on why I can't connect to my site with Apache? I've tried changing the router settings and apache settings to no avail. |
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| 21:18.08 | tricaric | anybody uning debian-testing here? today I updated the system, and swithced to xorg, and it looks like many packages are being removed now because of the lack of some libs.... how to fix this? |
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| 21:18.15 | stew | LightVision: your personal settings would be in $HOME not in /etc |
| 21:18.20 | SimonRaven | i.e., your kernel can't read it, so fdisk can't either |
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| 21:18.44 | stew | tricaric: what packages? what command is wanting to remove pacakges? |
| 21:18.49 | LightVision | stew: i trtied that, but when I loaded kppp, my modem and ISP settings where not there |
| 21:19.00 | csmiller | is security.debian.org struggling? I'm getting errors/slow downloads |
| 21:19.03 | stew | LightVision: ppp settings would be in /etc/ppp |
| 21:19.08 | SimonRaven | csmiller: yes |
| 21:19.10 | csmiller | stew apt-get remove |
| 21:19.14 | [ws] | simonraven: how can I fix that? The disk is new (uninitialized). sfdisk reports: sfdisk: Fatal error: cannot find /dev/sdi |
| 21:19.23 | LightVision | stew: you said its all in $HOME :P |
| 21:19.25 | stew | csmiller: what? |
| 21:19.26 | csmiller | as long as those who need to know know |
| 21:19.30 | eeyore- | so, has anybody looked at the GP2X? |
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| 21:19.44 | stew | csmiller: /topic ; i know how to remove files |
| 21:19.49 | stew | s/files/packages/ |
| 21:19.51 | csmiller | apt-get remove <pkg> will remove package 'pkg' |
| 21:19.53 | eeyore- | sure looks cute ... the price is interesting, 124 UKP |
| 21:19.55 | LightVision | stew: and where is the kmail setthings ? |
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| 21:20.16 | SimonRaven | [ws]: so it doesn't have a partition table/map at all |
| 21:20.28 | csmiller | stew: sorry, missread your message |
| 21:20.28 | [ws] | no. |
| 21:20.30 | LightVision | csmiller: security.debian.org works for me |
| 21:20.30 | TinMan | Anyone care to help me with my d-link g630 rev C? |
| 21:20.39 | stew | LightVision: i'd look in $HOME/.kmail and $HOME/kmail ; then i'd look in /usr/share/doc/kmail and man kmail |
| 21:20.51 | LightVision | stew: ok ty |
| 21:20.53 | LightVision | :) |
| 21:20.55 | SimonRaven | it's in ~/.kde |
| 21:21.01 | tricaric | stew: I'm using dselect, and all the kde packages are de-selected, but wait! I'm trying to select them again now... |
| 21:21.03 | TinMan | I can't seem to get it to obtain an IP adress, but everything else seems to be working fine. |
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| 21:21.11 | chump | where do I add SMP support make menuconfig for the 2.6.13 kernel? |
| 21:21.11 | SimonRaven | it's in ~/.kde/share/config IIRC |
| 21:21.19 | csmiller | I got "Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218), connection timed out" on http |
| 21:21.24 | BobbyGrace | Have installed both wireless-tools, ieee80211-source and ipw2200-source and firmware. iwconfig shows my wireless card, but when I to "ifup eth1"(eth1 is my wificard) I get the message "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1". what can I do ? |
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| 21:21.34 | BobbyGrace | this ahs worked before..... |
| 21:21.34 | csmiller | but its working now, at 15kbyte/sec |
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| 21:21.46 | vird | i am trying to get a no-network network going via crossedcables between a mac and osx ... i have configured the ppp dialer to dial out ... I have also got the ethernet card and my ip configured for debian (which is the machine connected to the internet) now i have the ip addres of debain machine an 192.168.10.10 and 192.168.10.11 is the ip of the osx machine and i have made the router ip of osx as 192.168.10.10 ... i still have trouble with the network ... i can' |
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| 21:21.59 | SimonRaven | [ws]: well, could be a number of things. you sure that dev file exists? |
| 21:22.00 | sn00p | why does X only doewsn't use 1/4 of the screen my resolution is 800x600 |
| 21:22.29 | LightVision | vird: can you elborate please :P lol |
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| 21:22.45 | SimonRaven | sn00p: EPARSEERROR |
| 21:22.53 | LightVision | csmiller: you using a modem? |
| 21:23.01 | sn00p | Simonraven: what |
| 21:23.14 | vird | LightVision: ping 192.168.10.10 does not work ... i have no idea where to check ... |
| 21:23.15 | SimonRaven | sn00p: what you said made no sense |
| 21:23.17 | csmiller | lightvision 512kbit/sec broadband, in the UK |
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| 21:23.39 | stew | BobbyGrace: man interfaces ; man wireless |
| 21:23.40 | interbird | The Print menu-item in Gimp has vanished from my system, is there a way to fix it ? |
| 21:23.41 | jbroome | vird: you don't need ppp. |
| 21:23.42 | sn00p | Simonraven: X only doesn't use the full screen thers like 1/4 missing and I have 800x600 |
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| 21:23.56 | jbroome | just set an ip on the same subnet on each computer and you should be fine |
| 21:24.00 | vird | jbroome: i need ppp to connect to the internet ;) .... |
| 21:24.12 | jbroome | oooh |
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| 21:24.32 | SimonRaven | LightVision, csmiller: there *are* issues with security.d.o. some massive update or something |
| 21:24.44 | vird | jbroome: subnet is 255.255.255.0 in both ... |
| 21:24.50 | LillDude_ | hey |
| 21:24.50 | gr8ron | but what is that xfree86 update about? |
| 21:25.03 | kenboo | internet---modem--debian---x----osx ? |
| 21:25.16 | vird | kenboo: yes |
| 21:25.22 | sn00p | SimonRaven: Why doesn't X use all of my sceen? |
| 21:25.29 | kenboo | so the debian has to be configured as a router |
| 21:25.31 | csmiller | ok. Just thought I'd ask. There wasn't on anything about on http://www.debian.org/#news |
| 21:25.32 | kenboo | nat |
| 21:25.38 | vird | kenboo: yes |
| 21:25.49 | LightVision | SimonRaven: im downloading a security of 30mb |
| 21:25.58 | SimonRaven | sn00p: 1/4 how, vertical, a box in the middle, horizontal, aroud the edges, what. describe the problem better than that |
| 21:26.03 | ircops | hey how do I reload my hosts file without doing a ifdown ifup ? |
| 21:26.16 | sn00p | SimonRaven: 1/4 vertical on the left edge |
| 21:26.17 | vird | kenboo: ifconfig shows that my eth0 is up and running ... (or that's what i think is happening ) |
| 21:26.20 | SimonRaven | we're not mind readers. go see #mindreaders |
| 21:26.22 | LightVision | SimonRaven: 30mb isnt massive |
| 21:26.29 | vird | inet addr:192.168.10.10 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 21:26.38 | vird | kenboo: ... |
| 21:26.46 | SimonRaven | quityerbitching and deal with it |
| 21:26.47 | Boter | if i give apt-get remove something ... it is steel in /etc/ dir... how can i completly delete it? |
| 21:26.49 | varroa | ircops, I don't believe /etc/hosts get's "reloaded". |
| 21:26.54 | kenboo | vird well i've seen a good web page that explains ppp and nat using iptables |
| 21:27.04 | LightVision | Boter: always use the --purge switch |
| 21:27.13 | SimonRaven | sn00p: you get this in console too? |
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| 21:27.26 | vird | kenboo: i have ppp working ... and iptables proxy from one of the webpages ... |
| 21:27.27 | ircops | varroa: well I had a website mapped to localhost, then updated my hosts file and saved it, and it is still mapping to localhost |
| 21:27.30 | stew | Boter: don't always use the --purge switch, just learn what it does |
| 21:27.34 | varroa | ircops, it's read with every resolution request provided /etc/nsswitch.conf has files,dns |
| 21:27.36 | csmiller | boter use apt-get --purge remove, or dpkg's remove option |
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| 21:27.50 | vird | kenboo: but i am making a mistake somewhere .... |
| 21:27.51 | ircops | ahhh |
| 21:27.51 | LightVision | stew: name one situation where --purge should not be used with remove |
| 21:27.53 | sn00p | SimonRaven: Just in X |
| 21:27.58 | Zero_Kelvin | Hiyo! |
| 21:28.01 | mohkohn | Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' |
| 21:28.01 | csmiller | dpkg is the only way to remove /etc/ after you've removedthe package |
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| 21:28.04 | stew | LightVision: when you don't want to remove the config files |
| 21:28.08 | [ws] | simonraven: how can I create the device files? |
| 21:28.09 | kenboo | vird do you have a default gw configured in osx? |
| 21:28.16 | sn00p | SimonRaven: I have the right video card selected Nvidia geforce 2 |
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| 21:28.29 | csmiller | isn't /dev a pseudo file system now? |
| 21:28.30 | mohkohn | I got that in my Multimedia Systems Selector in gnome when I tested |
| 21:28.32 | LightVision | stew: when would you want to remove a mother app and not its config files! give an example pls |
| 21:28.40 | stew | csmiller: not necessarily |
| 21:28.45 | SimonRaven | sn00p: could be couple of things, like some strange viewport setting you put in, or the modeline the server is picking isn't quite right with your monitor, ... |
| 21:28.47 | TinMan | could someone tell me why I'm not getting an IP from my router? |
| 21:29.00 | SimonRaven | [ws]: does it exist? ls -l /dev/sdi |
| 21:29.03 | vird | kenboo: gw is the router part in osx ? |
| 21:29.05 | varroa | ircops, what are the two lines in resolv.conf that you have regarding localhost and the website you "mapped". |
| 21:29.10 | [ws] | vird: no, It's not there |
| 21:29.33 | vird | [ws]: could youexplain ? |
| 21:29.38 | csmiller | tinmap: you need dhcpd (or similiar) running on the other machine. Unless you use static IP numbers |
| 21:29.38 | SimonRaven | csmiller: only if you run devfs or udev... |
| 21:29.38 | Zero_Kelvin | Question about one of k3b's used applications - Where is emovix? I installed movixmaker-2 after going through the programs list in k3b and finding out what each app is, ran updatedb, and tried to locate emovix but it doesn't seem to exist. |
| 21:29.42 | kenboo | vird, i'm not familiar with osx...i'd open a console, and run netstat -rn or route command |
| 21:29.49 | stew | LightVision: I recently was switching back and forth between two different mail servers several times. |
| 21:29.59 | vird | kenboo: ok let me try that ... |
| 21:30.05 | ircops | varroa: it was in /etc/hosts : "127.0.0.1 limewire.com" |
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| 21:30.11 | ircops | (trying to download new limewire binaries |
| 21:30.13 | ircops | ) |
| 21:30.13 | [ws] | simonraven: the device file is missing |
| 21:30.16 | LightVision | stew: two different mail servers were using the same config files? |
| 21:30.19 | varroa | ircops, yeah, I meant /etc/hosts. |
| 21:30.31 | stew | LightVision: nope |
| 21:30.37 | csmiller | ws: makedev will make the device node, if you know it's numbers |
| 21:30.38 | ircops | varroa: then I took it out, saved it, and tried refreshing, doing another nslookup, so on |
| 21:30.38 | LightVision | stew: exactly :) |
| 21:30.42 | vird | kenboo: gateway is indeed the debian ethernet ip address .... |
| 21:30.49 | csmiller | mkdev even |
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| 21:30.53 | kenboo | ok, that's fine |
| 21:30.54 | Zero_Kelvin | And there's no other movix stuff in the repository lists (stable, testing, and unstable all set on my apt sources). |
| 21:30.57 | LightVision | stew: so you could have used --purge |
| 21:30.58 | ircops | varroa: still maps to localhost |
| 21:30.58 | stew | LightVision: you are saying i should have purged the config, then reconfigged it completely when switching back? |
| 21:31.15 | stew | LightVision: instead of just reinstlling the old mailserver and having all the settings already in place? |
| 21:31.15 | kenboo | vird, can you ping the ip? |
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| 21:31.22 | LightVision | stew: why did you remove it then in the first place? |
| 21:31.23 | SimonRaven | [ws]: man MAKEDEV |
| 21:31.32 | [ws] | csmiller: mkdev: command not found |
| 21:31.35 | stew | LightVision: testing a new mailserver temporarily |
| 21:31.39 | varroa | ircops, I don't believe nslookup even checks /etc/hosts. It only queries your configured nameservers. |
| 21:31.42 | vird | kenboo: ok i try to ping debian-ip i get 88% packet loss ... |
| 21:31.50 | kenboo | oops :) |
| 21:31.52 | stew | LightVision: I also recently turned off logcheck by removing it, knowing i would reinstall it soon |
| 21:32.04 | vird | kenboo: problem with the cable ? |
| 21:32.04 | LightVision | stew: couldnt you test a new mailserver while keeping the oither on the system? |
| 21:32.08 | stew | LightVision: no |
| 21:32.16 | varroa | ircops, you could use any app, like ping, and your resolver will query /etc/hosts and then your configured name servers. |
| 21:32.23 | stew | LightVision: you cannot have two mailserver packages installed, they conflict |
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| 21:32.30 | LightVision | stew: so you can only have 1 mailserver on the system at any given time? |
| 21:32.31 | stew | LightVision: they all provide /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 21:32.33 | [ws] | csmiller: ah.. MAKEDEV it is... |
| 21:32.34 | stew | LightVision: yes |
| 21:32.38 | LightVision | stew: ok, thankls |
| 21:32.44 | TinMan | csmiller : Sorry, I got disconnected. Did you say anything? |
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| 21:32.49 | LightVision | stew: i learned something new :) |
| 21:32.50 | ircops | varroa: ahh... so do I have to restart my interface to get rid of the route? |
| 21:32.50 | [ws] | simonraven: thanks.. I'll check it out |
| 21:32.59 | csmiller | ws its mknod, which makes one device file |
| 21:33.04 | varroa | ircops, nope, no restart needed. |
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| 21:33.18 | LightVision | stew: but other times using --purge is a good idea to remove apps? |
| 21:33.19 | interbird | Does anyone know what makes the kernel boot-messages on Debian ? -- I would like them to show / format as Knoppix or Ubuntu |
| 21:33.32 | ircops | varroa: then why is mozilla still mapping there even though I have reloaded like 5 times? hehe |
| 21:33.36 | varroa | ircops, just try ping limewire.com and it should hit 127.0.0.1. |
| 21:33.41 | ircops | okay |
| 21:33.44 | kenboo | vird, how about pinging from other end (from debian to osx) |
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| 21:33.51 | stew | LightVision: --purge removes the config files. use it when you want to remove the config files |
| 21:33.58 | vird | kenboo: one sec ;) |
| 21:33.59 | sn00p | SimonRaven: I haven't had this problem with freebsd |
| 21:34.01 | csmiller | are there 59 (47.5Mbyte) X Windows System packages to be updated? |
| 21:34.08 | LightVision | stew: --purge removes the app and its config files, right? |
| 21:34.08 | [ws] | csmiller: hmm.. I'll look up that one too then. I have both MAKEDEV and mknod here... |
| 21:34.16 | ircops | varroa: it actually pings the right sight... I wanted to take out the mapping to localhost not put it in... |
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| 21:34.20 | ircops | sight=site |
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| 21:34.47 | TinMan | Running a wireless connection to a local dlink router, I'm not retrieving an IP for my wireless card. Any advice? Does it matter if my eth0 is connected? Must I disconnect that before I attempt to get my wireless working? |
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| 21:34.59 | varroa | ircops, you mean "ping limewire.com" comes back with 127.0.0.1? That is what you want, correct? |
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| 21:35.31 | vird | kenboo: similar amount of loss 86% |
| 21:35.33 | vird | ;) |
| 21:35.46 | LightVision | stew: eg, "apt-get remove --purge gimp" will remove Gimp and its config files, right? it doesnt remove config files and leave Gimp on system, does it? |
| 21:35.49 | csmiller | change the WiFi channel number? |
| 21:35.53 | ircops | varroa: no... it came back that way before... I want it out... took the line out of hosts... ping it now, and it pings to limewire.com's actual server addy... but mozilla is still bringing up my local webserver, even tho I have refreshed many times... |
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| 21:36.02 | abrotman | gimp doesn't have system wide config files |
| 21:36.10 | [ws] | csmiller: according to faqs.org: "MAKEDEV is the preferred way of creating device files which are not present" |
| 21:36.16 | abrotman | oh wait ... LightVision can't see me .. haha! |
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| 21:36.34 | kenboo | umm you need to fix the connection between debian and osx first. then configure nat |
| 21:36.44 | interbird | TinMan: eth0 should be connected to be able to network I think -- please explain more. |
| 21:36.44 | stew | [ws]: thats the preferred way, unless you are using udev |
| 21:37.02 | abrotman | dpkg: say LightVision: Gimp doesn't have system wide config files .. you may have better luck looking for a ~/.gimp/ |
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| 21:37.04 | dpkg | LightVision: Gimp doesn't have system wide config files .. you may have better luck looking for a ~/.gimp/ |
| 21:37.14 | varroa | ircops, have you killed mozilla? Perhaps mozilla has its own name resolution cache? |
| 21:37.27 | vird | kenboo: so its the cable ? |
| 21:37.32 | ecliptik | are there any IDS's that will analyze log files from iptables? |
| 21:37.42 | csmiller | dpkg Assuming you were using gimp as an example, you are right --purge will remove the package, and its /etc/ config files |
| 21:37.42 | dpkg | csmiller: what are you talking about? |
| 21:37.43 | ircops | varroa: yes, exited, then restarted... I think dns cache only lasts a matter of seconds, tho |
| 21:37.58 | abrotman | csmiller: is there a /etc/gimp/ ? |
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| 21:38.19 | kenboo | no, not sure yet. sometimes weird setup can cause that. for example multiple gws added by mistake |
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| 21:38.29 | ircops | it would suck to have to kill and bring up my interface again |
| 21:38.30 | csmiller | sorry dpkg, I was meaning lightvision |
| 21:38.31 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 21:38.31 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 21:38.38 | ircops | I got a lot of shiznit goin' on right now |
| 21:38.43 | ircops | unresumable downloads and whatnot |
| 21:38.48 | eeyore- | ircops: there's probably mozilla in the background somewhere |
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| 21:39.02 | varroa | ircops, Mmm... so ping limewire.com gives you 127.0.0.1 but in mozilla http://limewire.com/ gets you 64.61.25.171... Mmm... |
| 21:39.03 | vird | kenboo: any idea how i can find out for sure ? the cable is brand new ... |
| 21:39.03 | abrotman | csmiller: i don't tihnk there is a /etc/gimp/ ... and likely not a system wide config .. just defaults when you run for the first time which would be in ~/.gimp/ |
| 21:39.10 | LightVision | csmiller: lol |
| 21:39.25 | eeyore- | varroa: if "ping" sees 127.0.0.1, it's probably consulting /etc/hosts |
| 21:39.28 | kijjaz | i'm using RME Hammerfall DSP audio interface, and would like to ask about using it with Debian ^^" thanks. |
| 21:39.42 | LightVision | csmiller: you do realise dpkg is a bot, dont you? :) |
| 21:39.47 | ircops | varroa: no... opposite way around... I want the 64.61.25.171 in mozilla... but mozilla gives me 127.0.0.1... I get 64.61.25.171 in ping |
| 21:39.49 | csmiller | abrotman I know that, I as assuming that lightvision picked gimp as a random name |
| 21:39.54 | csmiller | I didn't know that |
| 21:39.57 | eeyore- | vird: how long is this cable? |
| 21:40.07 | LightVision | csmiller: indeed I did, i picked gimp as a random name |
| 21:40.08 | interbird | There is a /etc/gimp/2.0 on my system. |
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| 21:40.20 | eeyore- | vird: we're talking serial cable, right? |
| 21:40.25 | LightVision | csmiller: you didnt know dpkg was a bot? |
| 21:40.30 | abrotman | csmiller: might need clarification .. lightvision can't see what i need .. but in general .. yes ... --purge remove will remove the app and the ocnfig .. where just remove will leave system wide config files |
| 21:40.39 | abrotman | err see what i say |
| 21:40.43 | csmiller | if I add a numerical keyboard to my machine, can I assign different scan codes to it? |
| 21:40.51 | ircops | varroa: I HAD it mapped to localhost before... I took the map to localhost out of my hosts file and saved it... ping gives me the actual limewire server, which is what I want, but mozilla is still giving me localhost |
| 21:40.53 | varroa | ircops, oh! And you are sure you have "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" as the first line in /etc/hosts |
| 21:40.53 | eeyore- | csmiller: no |
| 21:40.54 | csmiller | I didn't know dpkg was a bot here |
| 21:41.03 | eeyore- | csmiller: the scancodes are determined by the keyboard controllers |
| 21:41.06 | LightVision | csmiller: how long have you been talking to the bot? :) |
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| 21:41.13 | [ws] | simonraven, csmiller: thanks for your help! I've been using MAKEDEV and now I'm formatting my new disk :-) |
| 21:41.21 | ircops | varroa: 127.0.0.1 Anthony localhost Anthony |
| 21:41.21 | SimonRaven | [ws]: yay |
| 21:41.22 | LightVision | csmiller: months? :) |
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| 21:41.31 | jlt | dpkg: find db2omf.lang |
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| 21:41.32 | ircops | varroa: (Anthony is my hostname) |
| 21:41.35 | csmiller | I'm a newbie here |
| 21:41.36 | SimonRaven | ircdevil: caps don't matter |
| 21:41.40 | csmiller | (it probably shows) |
| 21:41.46 | SimonRaven | ircdevil: err, not you |
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| 21:41.51 | SimonRaven | ircops: caps don't matter |
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| 21:41.57 | LightVision | !hug csmiller |
| 21:41.59 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'db2omf.lang' returned no results. |
| 21:42.07 | csmiller | drat. I wanted to use a numerical keyboard for media control |
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| 21:42.34 | vird | eeyore-: its an ethernet cable ... just 10m or so .. |
| 21:42.40 | ircops | SimonRaven: I know |
| 21:42.41 | varroa | ircops, change that first Anthony to localhost.localdomain. I don't think that has anything to do with it, but it's good form. |
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| 21:42.51 | csmiller | Just thought I could convince X that there was a different map on each keyboard |
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| 21:43.03 | eeyore- | vird: 10m is crazy length |
| 21:43.15 | eeyore- | vird: for going from pc to pc |
| 21:43.24 | stew | csmiller: a numkeypad will have different keycodes than the numbers above the homerow, but the same as another number keypad (afaik), if thats what you mean |
| 21:43.34 | eeyore- | vird: plug in a repeater or use a smaller cable |
| 21:43.35 | csmiller | vird: what speed are you trying to ethernet at? |
| 21:43.39 | [ws] | vird: does the mac address of any of the other hosts show up using "arp -a"? |
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| 21:43.52 | stew | error403: why is 10m crazy? |
| 21:43.53 | stew | err |
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| 21:43.54 | eeyore- | vird: s/smaller/shorter |
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| 21:44.02 | stew | eeyore-: why is 10m crazy? |
| 21:44.02 | ircops | varroa: done thx |
| 21:44.03 | Zero_Kelvin | You know, a simple "You have to download the emovix deb from the homepage at sourceforge" would have been a simple, straight forward, and polite response to my query. Even a simple "I don't know" would have been nice. |
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| 21:44.10 | stew | eeyore-: anything between 2 and 100 meters is not crazy |
| 21:44.11 | eeyore- | stew: he's using it crossover from one computer to another |
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| 21:44.21 | stew | eeyore-: yeah? so? |
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| 21:44.28 | vird | eeyore-: ok i will try that ... |
| 21:44.42 | vird | [ws]: yes it shows my debian ip ... |
| 21:44.43 | csmiller | stew: I wanted it to give different keycodes from the main keyboard's numerical keyboard. But it doesn't seem possible :-/ |
| 21:45.04 | stew | csmiller: no, you can't give it keycodes. you live with whatever keycodes it generates |
| 21:45.08 | eeyore- | csmiller: usb? |
| 21:45.21 | [ws] | vird: but does it show any of the other hosts mac addresses after you have tried to ping them? |
| 21:45.27 | vird | [ws]: but debian does not report any other ip addresses |
| 21:45.40 | csmiller | both keyboard will probably be USB. The numerical keyboard will be. |
| 21:45.42 | debianised | hum.... is it just me or the man page of sftp doesn't tell how to specify the port ? |
| 21:45.47 | eeyore- | stew: he's getting 80% packet loss ... you decide :-) |
| 21:45.50 | varroa | ircops, I just reproduced your issue on my box. Interesting. |
| 21:46.04 | vird | [ws]: arp -a does display the mac address when i try from the ibook |
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| 21:46.14 | [ws] | vird: How about from the other side of the cable? |
| 21:46.17 | csmiller | I want to change what X inteperates the keyboard as. I don't know if my terminology is correct. |
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| 21:46.33 | vird | [ws]: arp -a reports nothing ... |
| 21:46.36 | vineet | debianised: it's just you: For example, to specify an alternate port use: sftp -oPort=24. |
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| 21:46.49 | ircops | varroa: hehehe :) |
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| 21:46.54 | eeyore- | csmiller: if you have enough determination, you *might* be able to intercept the USB keycodes and rewrite them to whatever you want, but ... |
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| 21:47.00 | jmg | hey guys |
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| 21:47.20 | eeyore- | csmiller: off the top of my head, i don't know if this is what you want to do or not. google for "gizmod" |
| 21:47.26 | ircops | varroa: lemme know if you fix it lol |
| 21:47.28 | [ws] | vird: try arp -a right after you have tried to ping |
| 21:47.38 | woodland | i just compiled kernel 2.6.12 on my debian sarge with kernel 2.4.27, i think there was some error in compiling, so it cant boot in to new kernel, how do i delete the installed kernel |
| 21:47.40 | vird | [ws]: ok one sec |
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| 21:47.47 | csmiller | eeyore ah. Just thought I could load a different keymap onto each keyboard |
| 21:47.55 | LightVision | woodland: can you boot using safe mode? |
| 21:47.59 | jmg | is there a way for me to divert / to another directory when running an installer |
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| 21:48.07 | eeyore- | csmiller: *keymap* perhaps. scancodes, no. |
| 21:48.12 | LightVision | woodland: why did you need tp update the kernel? |
| 21:48.12 | varroa | ircops, I put '127.0.0.1 limewire.com localhost fragaria' in /etc/hosts. ping and firefox both resolve limewire.com to 127.0.0.1 as expected. I change /etc/hosts to '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain locahost fragaria'. ping resolves to 64.61.25.171 but firefox resolves to 127.0.0.1. |
| 21:48.17 | vineet | jmg: it's called chroot |
| 21:48.18 | stew | woodland: did you compile it with make-kpkg? if so just dpkg -r the package you installed |
| 21:48.32 | woodland | lightvision, i didnt write that in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:48.35 | vird | [ws]: yes it reports the mac address of ibook ... |
| 21:48.35 | ircops | varroa: my problem exactly :) |
| 21:48.37 | csmiller | eeyore: thanks |
| 21:48.44 | woodland | stew, no i used make install |
| 21:48.48 | stew | varroa: did you restart firefox? it caches dns lookups |
| 21:48.53 | eeyore- | csmiller: see, the scancodes are preset by the keyboard, and can't be changed. however, keymaps are software, and might be able to be customized to each individual keyboards |
| 21:49.03 | LightVision | woodland: when I installed Sarge, it created a safe mode autoimcaitally |
| 21:49.04 | interbird | jmg: chroot? |
| 21:49.10 | [ws] | vird: does it say incomplete for the debian box then? |
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| 21:49.30 | ircops | stew: tried that... won't work :) very weird |
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| 21:49.32 | stew | woodland: then you have to manually remove stuff from /boot and maybe fix symlinks in / and edit your bootloader config (/boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf depending) |
| 21:49.34 | LightVision | woodland: and why did you need tp update the kernel? dont fix it if its not broken. |
| 21:49.37 | csmiller | eeyore yes, i see. I was getting the scancode and the X keycode confused |
| 21:49.46 | eeyore- | csmiller: Option "XKbModel" "model" |
| 21:49.47 | vird | [ws]: no both of them are fine ... |
| 21:49.49 | stew | ircops: tried what? |
| 21:50.00 | woodland | lightvision, since i compiled this from source, i am supposed to write that in /boot/grun/menu.lst, which i didnt |
| 21:50.02 | vird | [ws]: ? (192.168.10.11) at 00:03:93:85:82:92 [ether] on eth0 |
| 21:50.13 | varroa | ircops, I just killed firefox and upon restart it correctly resolves limewire.com to 64.61.25.171. Killing mozilla doesn't work for you? |
| 21:50.17 | jmg | vineet: chroot doesnt work |
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| 21:50.30 | LightVision | woodland: now you know why you should have, its called learning and growing, which is a good thing |
| 21:50.32 | ircops | stew: restarted mozilla... I'm using konqueror (mozilla engine) |
| 21:50.33 | woodland | lightvision, i need to use wireless internet, can i do that in kernel 2.4 |
| 21:50.36 | [ws] | vird: and vice versa? |
| 21:50.37 | jmg | vineet: im trying to divert the files the installer is trying to install to another folder |
| 21:50.39 | jmg | er |
| 21:50.45 | jmg | directory |
| 21:50.48 | AP03 | how can one add items to be added to your path upon login? .bashrc gets loaded every time i run xterm and i want it to only run once |
| 21:50.51 | LightVision | woodland: did you try it using 2.4 and 2.6.8? |
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| 21:51.03 | vird | [ws]: similar but a different mac number and ip .... |
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| 21:51.19 | woodland | lightvision, i am using 2.4.27 right now, can i use wireless on this |
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| 21:51.24 | LightVision | woodland: i only upgrade kernel usng apt-get, and if its not available, i wouldnt do it |
| 21:51.27 | stew | ircops: konquror is not the mozilla engine |
| 21:51.31 | [ws] | vird: Then you have contact through the cable |
| 21:51.35 | LightVision | woodland: well, did you try ? |
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| 21:51.37 | Yulia | anyone knows if is there any kernel-image especially for laptop? |
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| 21:51.41 | interbird | jmg: symlink ? |
| 21:51.45 | stew | woodland: you should be using make-kpkg bts, /msg dpkg kp |
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| 21:51.54 | [ws] | vird: Are you using iptables? |
| 21:51.59 | vird | [ws]: yes |
| 21:52.00 | ircops | stew: ? |
| 21:52.04 | stew | Yulia: the standard debian kernels are fine for laptops |
| 21:52.07 | stew | ircops: ? |
| 21:52.12 | varroa | ircops, I wonder if something else you are using has mozilla open. ps -ef | grep mozilla show anything? |
| 21:52.12 | LightVision | Yulia: have you tried to customize a kernel for your laptop? |
| 21:52.12 | csmiller | can you use option device with keyboards? |
| 21:52.22 | ircops | stew: ?? |
| 21:52.23 | ircops | hehe |
| 21:52.32 | ircops | stew: what engine does it use? its own? |
| 21:52.35 | woodland | lightvision, i did use apt-get , but after i booted in 2.6.8. i was disconnected from internet after some time online |
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| 21:52.48 | woodland | so i removed 2.6.8 |
| 21:53.04 | [ws] | vird: on both ends? |
| 21:53.05 | aiyaiyairc | if anyone here uses MAYA , have you compared your render times on debian vs windows? thanks |
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| 21:53.31 | LightVision | woodland: you shoould only compile a kernel The Debian Way "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" |
| 21:53.31 | stew | ircops: yes |
| 21:53.34 | aiyaiyairc | or what install of debian yielded best performance/reliablity w/MAYA |
| 21:53.34 | vird | [ws]: no only at the debian end ... should i do it on both ends ? |
| 21:53.39 | MoodGladeGal | I have setup a firewall script using iptables. When I try to ssh in from my LAN to the server I cannot connect. But it works fine from the outside world. Any ideas? |
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| 21:53.53 | soyuz | I am trying to do an upgrade, package libpaper1 is puking with "--output-fd: unknown option" "debconf: whiptail to the above errors, giving up!" -- any suggestions on what I should do to fix this? |
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| 21:54.03 | ircops | ahhh... KHTML |
| 21:54.07 | masteraccurate | hi there.. searching woody iso images on ftp.debian.org where can i find? |
| 21:54.07 | ircops | research helps you learn I guess |
| 21:54.15 | [ws] | vird: no. But now we now that the problem is probably your iptables rules on the debian end |
| 21:54.16 | woodland | so lightvision, how do i sort this compiled kernel out, how do i remove it ? |
| 21:54.27 | stew | woodland: i told you |
| 21:54.44 | Yulia | stew, i do not have monitor for see level battery, for example. |
| 21:54.59 | stew | Yulia: does your laptop support acpi? |
| 21:55.06 | stew | Yulia: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 21:55.27 | LightVision | woodland: I wouldnt have a clue! if I were you, I would ask stew or dondelelcaro |
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| 21:55.30 | ircops | varroa: okay weird... I started actual mozilla firefox (which I haven't run for days) and I still get localhost |
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| 21:55.42 | LightVision | woodland: yes I believe stew already told you |
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| 21:55.47 | csmiller | eeyore thanks |
| 21:55.48 | slack7384 | masteraccurate: your best bet is to dl the woody ISOs using linuxiso.org |
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| 21:55.50 | LightVision | woodland: scroll back |
| 21:56.00 | masteraccurate | thx slack7384 |
| 21:56.01 | jlt | pkg: find db2omf.lang |
| 21:56.04 | Yulia | stew, i just tried installing it, and i cant see level (Linux portatil 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux) |
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| 21:56.06 | stew | masteraccurate: why do you want woody and not sarge? |
| 21:56.07 | jlt | dpkg: find db2omf.lang |
| 21:56.07 | masteraccurate | on ftp.debian.org i cant find? |
| 21:56.09 | LightVision | woodland: stew woodland: then you have to manually remove stuff from /boot and maybe fix symlinks in / and edit your bootloader config (/boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf depending |
| 21:56.11 | prock | I have a date in the format of # of seconds since 'epoch'. How do I get real date for this number? |
| 21:56.16 | ircops | varroa: nm... |
| 21:56.17 | jlt | sorry about that. |
| 21:56.24 | stew | Yulia: apt-get install acpid ; modprobe battery ; and acpi -V |
| 21:56.24 | masteraccurate | stew, i have sarge but i need the first woody cd |
| 21:56.32 | masteraccurate | :) thx very mutch! :) |
| 21:56.33 | masteraccurate | bye all |
| 21:56.36 | sn00p | limewire cant be found in apt-cache search |
| 21:56.47 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'db2omf.lang' returned no results. |
| 21:56.52 | slack7384 | materaccurate: although, if you want the best, go ahead and dl Debian Sarge ISOs (you only need CD1 for basic Desktop GNOME+KDE) |
| 21:56.56 | LightVision | woodland: and look at it this way, you learned a lot of what NOT to do |
| 21:57.00 | vird | [ws]: http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm has the iptable rules i am using |
| 21:57.11 | sn00p | is limewire in apt-cache? |
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| 21:57.35 | vird | [ws]: i made no changes and i am using the one with dynamic ip .... |
| 21:57.38 | Yulia | staniel, FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device |
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| 21:57.39 | LightVision | sn00p: why you want to use limewire? |
| 21:57.49 | Yulia | stew, FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device |
| 21:57.52 | varroa | ircops, nm? |
| 21:58.04 | stew | Yulia: what kind of laptop, it might not support acpi. |
| 21:58.08 | sn00p | Why do you think |
| 21:58.17 | stew | Yulia: you might wanna /msg dpkg laptop ; and see what others have done |
| 21:58.23 | LightVision | sn00p: no idea, asking you! i hope its not for anything illegal |
| 21:58.28 | deadcat | how do i know which firmware my wireless card is using? any mod<tab> command? |
| 21:58.40 | sn00p | becayse torrents suck |
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| 21:58.54 | sn00p | LightVision: yes it is |
| 21:58.55 | LightVision | sn00p: what do you want to download? |
| 21:59.10 | Yulia | stew, is very new. Hp compaq presario 2175EA |
| 21:59.19 | sn00p | LightVision: i'm gonna d/l mp3s and divx's and sell them what do you think? |
| 21:59.28 | [ws] | vird: you're using ppp0 to the internet? |
| 21:59.43 | stew | sn00p: limewire is not in debian |
| 21:59.47 | ircops | varroa: feel like a freakin' idiot... I was using a premade hosts file to get rid of banners and whatnot... limewire.com was in there, which I took out, but I didn't even think to look further, and of course there was www.limewire.com hehehe *foot-in-mouth* |
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| 21:59.53 | LightVision | sn00p: why does torrent s**k? |
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| 22:00.12 | deadcat | LightVision: because he has to upload (= |
| 22:00.12 | stew | Yulia: check tuxmobil.org |
| 22:00.15 | sn00p | I got th .tar.gz |
| 22:00.15 | sn00p | d/l'ing |
| 22:00.25 | sYn0ptik | anyone here ever come across a "wifi0: hfa384x_cmd_issue:" problem when trying to use a wireless pcmcia card and kernel 2.6.11? |
| 22:00.29 | sn00p | LightVision: because i'm on dialup |
| 22:00.33 | sYn0ptik | errr and hostap |
| 22:00.49 | varroa | ircops: Ahh! That would do it. Live and learn! |
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| 22:00.56 | LightVision | deadcat: heheh yeah, many leechers dont like that :) |
| 22:00.58 | ellobo | hi |
| 22:00.58 | ircops | heh *thwap* |
| 22:00.58 | sn00p | deadcat: that too |
| 22:01.04 | woodland | lightvision, thanx, i did like u said, but my disk usage shows 1.3G used, though i have few softwares installed |
| 22:01.10 | vird | [ws]: no i am using a dialup cdma to connect to the internet ... |
| 22:01.14 | beardy | LightVision: What are you trying to download? |
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| 22:01.21 | ellobo | anyone knows how can i install kdevelop3 in debian ? |
| 22:01.30 | LightVision | beardy: nothing, sn00p is |
| 22:01.31 | deadcat | LightVision: ya. that really grinds my gears (= |
| 22:01.34 | beardy | LightVision: Ah |
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| 22:01.43 | beardy | oh |
| 22:01.48 | sn00p | hmmm |
| 22:01.48 | sn00p | limewire_3.4.5-2_all.deb |
| 22:01.53 | stew | ellobo: apt-get install kdevelop3 |
| 22:01.54 | streuner | ellobo: unstable? |
| 22:01.54 | ellobo | humm... let me refrase the question, are there any funcional kdevelop3 packages for debian/sid ? |
| 22:01.58 | LightVision | deadcat: yeah, leechers are scum of the internet, never give, just leech |
| 22:02.06 | beardy | !search |
| 22:02.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search ... |
| 22:02.08 | jason | so i rebooted my laptop and now i can't login to gnome, gdm comes up and everything seems to work but it gets stuck on the debian gnome picture thing where the icons usually run across... any place i can look or debug? |
| 22:02.10 | |ee | xorg are in etch ? |
| 22:02.14 | streuner | ellobo: read /topic |
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| 22:02.26 | stew | ellobo: what is wrong with the current sid package? have you checked the bts? |
| 22:02.30 | beardy | |ee: ^^ what dpkg said |
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| 22:02.47 | LightVision | beardy: sn00p is wanting to find something other than torrent so he can just leech and never upload anything :P |
| 22:02.57 | stew | |ee: /topic |
| 22:03.05 | |ee | beardy, im new in linux sorry |
| 22:03.11 | |ee | i don't understand |
| 22:03.21 | woodland | m harddisk shows 1.3 G used though i dont have many softwares installed, but in last few weeks i tried to install and then uninstall lot of softwares. |
| 22:03.21 | sn00p | I have nothing to upload what do you expect and uploading is stupid |
| 22:03.33 | beardy | |ee: In your irc client, run /topic |
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| 22:03.39 | stew | sn00p: just /ignore him |
| 22:03.40 | mfrisch | I have used the .config from my running kernel, but when I make an update, with kpkg, I get an error about vfs. |
| 22:03.45 | LightVision | |ee: you mean new to IRC. /topic is a IRC commmand |
| 22:03.48 | buu | sn00p: Uploading is.. stupid? |
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| 22:04.02 | ellobo | stew: kdevelop3: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6) but it is not installable |
| 22:04.15 | stew | !info kdelibs4 |
| 22:04.21 | |ee | no io don't understand dpkg bla bla bla |
| 22:04.22 | LightVision | buu: all leaches say uploading is stupid, just ignore him |
| 22:04.32 | ellobo | stew, streuner: thnx .... i will ask in debian-kde |
| 22:04.46 | beardy | |ee: Read it a few more times. |
| 22:04.52 | |ee | ok |
| 22:05.02 | stew | ellobo: looks like kdelibs4 was renamed kdelibs maybe. welcome to sid :) |
| 22:05.03 | vird | [ws]: should /etc/hosts have an entry for the ibook ? |
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| 22:05.25 | ellobo | stew: true... true... :) |
| 22:05.30 | sabin | hello people |
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| 22:05.48 | sabin | when i use udev, what /dev am i supposed to use to mount a usbkey? |
| 22:06.13 | CoesPost | sabin: /dev/sda1 or sda2 |
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| 22:06.16 | mfrisch | sabin /de/sda |
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| 22:06.44 | interbird | sabin: Depends on the layout of your pen |
| 22:06.45 | stew | LightVision: calling him a leech without having any idea what he is trying to do is not fair, please drop it |
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| 22:07.01 | interbird | sabin: Ans other devices |
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| 22:07.10 | [ws] | wird: it doesn't matter |
| 22:07.11 | sabin | sounds good, lil problem though, i don't have that, however dmesg registered a usb-storage device, the closes thing it said was scsi0 |
| 22:07.18 | sabin | but i can't seem to find anything |
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| 22:07.29 | streuner | heh, if somebody calling uploading stupid how would you call them then? :- |
| 22:07.32 | streuner | :-) |
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| 22:07.36 | gloin | hey, I got into #debian! wow! |
| 22:07.38 | gloin | anyhow |
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| 22:07.45 | beardy | |ee: For example, if you are wondering weither xorg is in etch (if that is what you are running, you run 'apt-cache search xorg | less', or use another method of searching packages. |
| 22:07.46 | mfrisch | sabin dmesg|grep sd |
| 22:07.51 | digitalsaf25 | Hi all, is somebody interessted to try a new filesystem? |
| 22:08.07 | |ee | ohhh ok |
| 22:08.11 | interbird | sabin: You should be able to see the layout with: fdisk -l |
| 22:08.26 | |ee | but in my repository i don't have xorg |
| 22:08.26 | sabin | grrr. it appears i didn't compile scsi disk support |
| 22:08.28 | sabin | my bad |
| 22:08.47 | |ee | i use apt-cache search and i dont't find it |
| 22:08.51 | mfrisch | sabin need that! |
| 22:08.51 | interbird | sabin: I found the best way with udev is to label the volume on the pen and put that in /etc/fstab |
| 22:08.51 | beardy | |ee: Then you are running sarge? Are you running sarge? |
| 22:08.59 | |ee | hehee |
| 22:09.00 | |ee | no |
| 22:09.05 | |ee | im running etch |
| 22:09.16 | Yulia | stew, i cant see it |
| 22:09.23 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 ok what is it |
| 22:09.28 | sabin | technically if i compile scsi disc support as module i don't need to reboot do i? |
| 22:09.32 | beardy | |ee: /msg dpkg get xorg |
| 22:09.37 | gloin | I just had to wait hours on my normal update day to check my webserver, turns out security was slagged due to desktop people downloading X stuff. Any consideration to splitting security to core.security and desktop.security? There are ZILLIONS of desktop packages that may need updates, big, large file updates, and it's really kind of a drag for people running servers to wait for security to free up congestion from people downloading x crap. |
| 22:09.40 | digitalsaf25 | frisch: do you heard about NOOFS? |
| 22:09.47 | fbi | |ee: if you actually do have etch in your sources.list, you should be finding xserver-xorg |
| 22:10.06 | fbi | lee: when was the last time you updated/upgraded anyway |
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| 22:10.16 | fbi | xorg has been in testing for a little while now |
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| 22:10.28 | |ee | ok |
| 22:10.32 | |ee | thnx fbi |
| 22:10.39 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: do you heard about NOOFS? |
| 22:10.42 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 actually I read it on freshmeat, whats its features again, I was "working" when I read it, |
| 22:10.53 | fbi | |ee: if you are still running xfree86 on testing, all you have to do is apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 22:11.01 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: it saves its data in a SQL database |
| 22:11.09 | beardy | gloin: Don't give root to _anyone_ you don't trust ENTIRELY. Don't run X as root. |
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| 22:11.11 | jmg | hey all |
| 22:11.15 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 thats right... |
| 22:11.26 | gloin | beardy: uhh, does that have the slightest thing to do with what I said? |
| 22:11.29 | gloin | no... |
| 22:11.37 | gravity | gloin: You'd have to talk to the security team about that. They're rather swamped right now as it is, so doing a split like that would place an even bigger load on them. |
| 22:11.41 | gloin | I don't run X at all. |
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| 22:12.05 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 is that supposed to beat journaling |
| 22:12.09 | gloin | gravity: thanks... I'll wait a couple days and then take it up with them so we don't have a repeat of today's mess. |
| 22:12.11 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: it would be great if somebody could test it, because we have not got really feedback about testing |
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| 22:12.19 | jmg | is there a way to monitor the filesystem for changes before and after installing from a commercial installer and make a deb file out of the changes? |
| 22:12.28 | beardy | gloin: It did to me, but perhaps I misunderstood what you said. |
| 22:12.34 | gloin | beardy: lol |
| 22:12.50 | mohkohn | Well I have sound. Now all I need is for gnome to find my usb when I plug it in. |
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| 22:13.02 | ircops | hey can anybody explain the "Timer Frequency" option in the kernel config? There is no general explanation of it.. there are 100mhz, 250mhz, and 1000mhz options... |
| 22:13.06 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: noofs has not the same features as a journaled filesystem, it's based on other features and advantages |
| 22:13.07 | gloin | re-read it - I'm talking about running a webserver and having apt-get update throw timeouts on me because a bunch of people are downloading xlib crap and I don't even need it. |
| 22:13.15 | gloin | beardy: ^^ |
| 22:13.53 | gravity | gloin: The security repository does not exist for your convenience alone. |
| 22:14.04 | mohkohn | Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0ea0:6828 Ours Technology, Inc. OTI-6828 Flash Disk |
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| 22:14.57 | beardy | gloin: Which people? |
| 22:15.00 | [ws] | vird: I think you shuold check your scripts and interfaces. You can reach the internet from your debian box? |
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| 22:15.09 | gravity | And don't get me started on the fact that a large number of servers have X installed. |
| 22:15.17 | vird | [ws]: yes |
| 22:15.24 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 How does it work. read/write. I have mysql, so it needs to be run before mount of this filesystem? I would guess it rocks on indexing info. |
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| 22:15.31 | vird | [ws]: i am on the debian box atm .... |
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| 22:16.13 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: "I would guess it rocks on indexing info" -> exactly! You need to download the server noofsd, the client noofs and if you want to mount it, the kernel module. |
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| 22:16.43 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: But don't try to mount the kernel module if you have very important data, because the kernel module is still very experimental (make a sync before) :-) |
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| 22:16.54 | gloin | gravity: I never suggested that it was. I'm simply thinking it would be logical load-balancing to be able to exclude any X stuff at the sources.list level so that the, ahem, sensible server admins don't need to queue up behind people wanting glxgears to run better. |
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| 22:17.26 | gravity | gloin: Um... that's not what the security updates for X are for. They're for people with stable installations who have security issues. |
| 22:17.27 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: what you can do is to test the features with the noofs administrator console, it includes some nice feature, virtual directories etc. |
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| 22:17.44 | gravity | gloin: A lot of servers have the X libs installed for things like remote terminals and whatnot. |
| 22:17.48 | gloin | gravity: yeah, I was exaggerating a bit, but the point I'm making is the same. |
| 22:17.54 | jacapo | question, after editing the resolution modes in XF86Config-4, do I need to restart? |
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| 22:18.01 | stew | gloin: what would be more logical whoud just be to have things mirrored around like the rest of the repository is. there is no reason to treat x security fixes differently than others. that seems arbitrary becuase it affected you negatively this time |
| 22:18.03 | gravity | gloin: Only partially. Since X is installed on a large number of servers, where would it go? |
| 22:18.04 | jjazz | jacapo: restart the x server |
| 22:18.07 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 how does it store data, can it be dumped? |
| 22:18.08 | jacapo | ah |
| 22:18.09 | jacapo | cool |
| 22:18.11 | beardy | jacapo: Yes, restart X |
| 22:18.13 | gravity | As ever, stew is on the ball |
| 22:18.20 | dsfas | anyone know where I can get ads that pay by views? |
| 22:18.27 | streuner | !wb whitehorse1 |
| 22:18.28 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! whitehorse1 has returned! |
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| 22:18.30 | dsfas | I know they exist |
| 22:18.35 | dsfas | I can't seem to find them |
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| 22:18.39 | interbird | I compiled a kernel but the screen is blanc on boot, X/gdm comes up ok however but vterms are blanc... |
| 22:18.40 | stew | gravity: heh, thanks |
| 22:18.41 | dsfas | Ive googled all sorts of stuff |
| 22:18.44 | znx | did i deserve that Shadowcat ? |
| 22:18.45 | gravity | ;-) |
| 22:18.47 | nkuttler | dsfas: that's totally unrelated to debian |
| 22:18.47 | streuner | whitehorse1: are you every used a 'cloak'? |
| 22:18.49 | beardy | dsfas: Google again. |
| 22:18.52 | vird | dsfas google uses them ;) |
| 22:19.00 | streuner | whitehorse1: s/every/ever/ |
| 22:19.01 | gloin | stew: the biggest difference in X security fixes is that the files tend to be a heck of a lot bigger than the stuff that doesn't use X |
| 22:19.13 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: the data are stored in the mysql 4.1 database. You can dump them with your preferred mysql data command. To upload and download files from the database: You can use the noofs administrator console (I recommend it) or the kernel module. |
| 22:19.21 | gravity | gloin: Is this only X or "stuff that uses X"? |
| 22:19.22 | jacapo | what's the command to kill x? |
| 22:19.33 | dondelelcaro | jacapo: kill $(pidof x) |
| 22:19.33 | gravity | jacapo: ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 22:19.34 | gloin | gravity: both. |
| 22:19.36 | jjazz | jacapo: ctrl-alt-bspace |
| 22:19.38 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 cool :-) |
| 22:19.42 | gravity | gloin: I don't know that the latter is true |
| 22:19.42 | jacapo | wow, thanks guys |
| 22:19.46 | whitehorse1 | streuner Not cloaked, nope. It's been suggested though; I may get on it later. |
| 22:19.50 | gravity | gloin: X is big, but that's being fixed in time. |
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| 22:20.01 | Shadowcat | znx: yes you did :P |
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| 22:20.04 | whitehorse1 | streuner Probably will actually |
| 22:20.07 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: The structure is so: NOOFS client <---> NOOFS server <---> MySQL 4.1 database |
| 22:20.12 | Shadowcat | znx: took you half a screen to respond too |
| 22:20.12 | gravity | gloin: Either way, your distinction doesn't make sense. |
| 22:20.17 | gloin | well |
| 22:20.18 | Shadowcat | znx: you're slowing down :P |
| 22:20.22 | dli | anyone knows the totem "can not find mount point" problem? |
| 22:20.39 | dsfas | debian is a linux distro correct? |
| 22:20.47 | jjazz | dli: I'm guessing Debian can't find the mount point. Does it exist? |
| 22:20.47 | dli | dsfas, yes |
| 22:20.51 | whitehorse1 | dsfas: yup |
| 22:20.52 | znx | Shadowcat: well.. yes i am.. but i blame it on the spread.. too much love across too many chans ;) |
| 22:20.53 | beardy | dli: No. /msg dpkg ask |
| 22:20.54 | dsfas | k |
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| 22:21.18 | stew | deadcat: its a gnu distro that is usually run with a linux kernel but also runs with freebsd kernel and can run hurd (if hurd actually runs that is) |
| 22:21.19 | dli | jjazz, looks like a well defined totem problem |
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| 22:21.23 | samuel | dsfas, nope, its a way of life |
| 22:21.26 | gloin | so long as an X or X-related security update is going to be 20 times the size of a typical non-X-related binary... it makes sense to push those off to a different server |
| 22:21.31 | dsfas | linux is |
| 22:21.34 | dsfas | windows sucks |
| 22:21.35 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 sounds like a good nfs...The company I work for is starting to scan invoices-this would be good |
| 22:21.35 | beardy | dsfas: Debian GNU/Linux is a linux distribution, yes. |
| 22:21.37 | stew | dsfas: err see what i said to deadcat by mistake |
| 22:21.45 | dsfas | http://microsuck.com |
| 22:21.46 | dsfas | lol |
| 22:22.00 | jjazz | dli: I know nothing of totem |
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| 22:22.20 | whitehorse1 | beardy: I've now upgraded my kernel since we last spoke. g |
| 22:22.22 | rend | whats that graph program mrtg uses? |
| 22:22.26 | dsfas | Yeah, I knew it was a linux dist, but I got this IRC channel out of a torrent chat |
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| 22:22.44 | dsfas | so I wasnt sure if it was about the linux distro or if it was some torrent site I didnt know about |
| 22:22.59 | beardy | whitehorse1: ? And when was that? |
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| 22:22.59 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: Yes it's full network transparent. Unfortunality the NOOFS project is currently still experimental, because there was a lot of work to do. But if you have a little time, perhaps you can test it. |
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| 22:23.04 | dli | jjazz, it's quite good, at least before I found this serious problem. mplayer is always buggy, xine is similiar |
| 22:23.15 | ogami1972 | hello folks-any jack users available? |
| 22:23.15 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 but you need the client right, you cannot access sql to get the info right? |
| 22:23.21 | gloin | dsfas: http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Cpm/ |
| 22:23.27 | fbi | dli: i would verify the device's mount point and options in fstab |
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| 22:23.40 | stew | grrr, can't restart x becuase i did the dumb "forgot to start rsync in a screen" mistake |
| 22:23.44 | dli | fbi: this is a totem problem indeed |
| 22:24.39 | jjazz | dli: xine works ok for me, although I admit I don't do much more than play a little music. |
| 22:24.39 | gravity | stew: It's rsync! You can restart the rsync later! :-) |
| 22:24.39 | dsfas | yeah |
| 22:24.39 | whitehorse1 | beardy: In the last week & a half; unless it's a case of mistaken identity on my part of course. :) It probably wasn't an especially memorable conversation to be fair! I was using a 2.4 kernel then |
| 22:24.39 | dsfas | but my main concern is, where can I find ads that pay per view? |
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| 22:24.40 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: You need the client for security reasons: The server must protect illegal access to the database. And NOOFS is compatible with all SQL databases because of the integreated database API |
| 22:24.40 | dsfas | did someone say that google provides them? |
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| 22:24.40 | dli | jjazz, I enjoy xmms with music |
| 22:24.40 | stew | gravity: i know, but everytime i look at it i convince myself that its almost done, and it was a big one where "calculating..." took forever |
| 22:24.40 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 whats the address...I won't have time till friday. |
| 22:24.40 | gravity | hehe |
| 22:24.44 | jacapo | I must be doing something wrong |
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| 22:24.45 | Snadder | whats the easiest debian based distro around theese days?.. ubuntu? |
| 22:24.46 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: currently MySQL 4.1 is full supported, and postgreSQL is soon also full supported |
| 22:24.52 | dli | fbi: sure fbi wants to verify everything, but the problem is simply not there |
| 22:24.58 | jacapo | What would cause additions to the XF86Config-4 file not to show up? |
| 22:24.59 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: http://www.noofs.org/ |
| 22:25.03 | Gnea | Snadder: there are many - xandros isn't too bad, actually |
| 22:25.06 | interbird | Yes, add the devices in /etc/udev/links.conf |
| 22:25.15 | dsfas | snadder: Yes, I think ubuntu is easiest, also xandros (beat me to it gnea) |
| 22:25.17 | nkuttler | jacapo: not to show up? |
| 22:25.23 | dsfas | plus, im kindof a noob so...lol |
| 22:25.32 | dli | jacapo, not showing up? you mean unchanged after dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 22:25.34 | dsfas | knoppix is probly the easiest form of linux you can come across |
| 22:25.39 | jjazz | jacapo: Syntax errors or invalid options could result in your changes not making noticeable differences. |
| 22:25.42 | jacapo | nkuttler: Yeah, I added "1280x768" to the modes |
| 22:25.42 | Gnea | dsfas: yeah, my CEO is converting from windows to linux because of it :) |
| 22:25.42 | Snadder | whats the main diffrence between ubuntu and xandros? |
| 22:25.48 | dsfas | knoppix? |
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| 22:25.57 | jacapo | dli: maybe that's my problem |
| 22:25.58 | dsfas | Gnea: is he installing it? |
| 22:25.58 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 I can get an email address off the site if I get stuck? |
| 22:26.01 | dsfas | or just booting it? |
| 22:26.03 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: it would be nice, please tell us about the testing results |
| 22:26.06 | whitehorse1 | dsfas | snadder: Wouldn't linspire be an easier debian-based distro? I haven't used it but I'd hazard a guess it may be |
| 22:26.15 | Gnea | dsfas: just booting it |
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| 22:26.25 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: Yes, you have the mailing lists, or write directly to contact@noofs.org |
| 22:26.26 | jacapo | dli: this is the first time I've ever had to add non-standard resolutions |
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| 22:26.37 | jacapo | dli: so I need to dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 22:26.57 | dli | jacapo, right, otherwise, don't ask in #debian |
| 22:27.10 | dsfas | I see |
| 22:27.11 | streuner | You must be able to read and have a brain, why not just use debian then ... ;-) |
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| 22:27.14 | dsfas | you know he can install it right? |
| 22:27.22 | Gnea | dsfas: he uses it, it doesn't crash, he's more productive |
| 22:27.23 | dsfas | (gnea) |
| 22:27.24 | jacapo | dli, I apologize for asking silly questions. It's been a nerve-frazzling install |
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| 22:27.36 | Gnea | dsfas: that's not his job. |
| 22:27.38 | Gnea | :) |
| 22:27.43 | dsfas | yours? |
| 22:27.49 | dli | jacapo, don't worry, I enjoy being silly here, and driving others crazy |
| 22:27.54 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 got it will try, if I get anywhere will let know. |
| 22:28.02 | jacapo | dli: thanks =) |
| 22:28.11 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: thanks, its nice from you |
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| 22:28.19 | jjazz | If I want to lpr pages 10, 15 and 16 of a doc, what's the commandline syntax? man lpr doesn't say how to specify page numbers from a doc. |
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| 22:28.39 | Gnea | jjazz: what doc? |
| 22:28.47 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: and what do you do exactly as work for the company for which you work? because you talked that it's what the company is about also working? |
| 22:28.54 | SpinX | i have no sound... hm |
| 22:28.54 | Fox_1_ | hello |
| 22:29.08 | ricky_clarkson | SpinX: Turn the volume up! |
| 22:29.11 | jjazz | Gnea: The doc in question is a pdf. Does that matter? |
| 22:29.14 | streuner | SpinX: what soundcard do you have? |
| 22:29.18 | Fox_1_ | listen how can i forward channel to an other channel??? |
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| 22:29.20 | ricky_clarkson | SpinX: alsaconf |
| 22:29.22 | Fox_1_ | in IRC |
| 22:29.30 | SpinX | Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60 |
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| 22:29.40 | Gnea | jjazz: use something like xpdf, gpdf or evince to tell lpr what pages you want to print |
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| 22:29.59 | streuner | SpinX: and you are running a 2.4.x kernel, right? |
| 22:30.05 | SpinX | yea |
| 22:30.10 | streuner | uhm |
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| 22:30.21 | jjazz | Gnea: What if I don't have X installed on that box? |
| 22:30.29 | streuner | SpinX: /msg dpkg audio (sound) |
| 22:30.39 | Gnea | jjazz: well, if i didn't know better, i'd say yer SOL, however........sec |
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| 22:30.50 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 they are a comercial private jet rental company, pretty large, but it is only temporary, THANK GOD. All windows all sucks. But I am trying to get them up to par |
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| 22:31.28 | streuner | SpinX: just run 'modconf' and choose the right driver |
| 22:31.30 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: So you port all Windows computers to UNIX or Linux? |
| 22:31.31 | dsfas | What should I type into google to find pay per view ads? |
| 22:31.38 | streuner | SpinX: s/driver/module/ |
| 22:31.41 | SpinX | streuner, ok |
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| 22:32.03 | SpinX | hrm.. which driver |
| 22:32.08 | ricky_clarkson | dsfas: pay per view ads? |
| 22:32.10 | streuner | SpinX: if you don't find it, use groups.google.com |
| 22:32.15 | dondelelcaro | jjazz: why not just use pdf2ps |lpr? |
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| 22:32.24 | streuner | SpinX: something like via**** |
| 22:32.37 | streuner | SpinX: in sound-section |
| 22:32.40 | dsfas | yes |
| 22:32.43 | dsfas | pay-per-view ads |
| 22:32.45 | dsfas | I can't find them |
| 22:32.51 | dsfas | I spent alot of last night googling for them |
| 22:32.56 | dsfas | I suck at googling sometimes |
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| 22:33.03 | jjazz | dondelelcaro: Mainly because it didn't occur to me. I'll try it. Thanks. |
| 22:33.19 | jaaro | how can I build source deb package from orig.tar.gz, diff.gz & dsc files? I'm trying to use dpkg-source but wasn't able to understand yet. |
| 22:33.21 | enraged | i've a problem with my wireless card... it used to work fine, but today eth1 doesn't appear in ifconfig although module gets loaded ok.... |
| 22:33.30 | enraged | any ideas? |
| 22:33.33 | SpinX | i found via82.. |
| 22:33.58 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 no I use just 'doz at work, but I am pushing for a server to show them what Debian can do, so far just to push packages. They use many different in-house bull that would not port even if we tried. Use access and Microsoft SQL and VB |
| 22:34.16 | streuner | SpinX: sound ok to me |
| 22:34.27 | SpinX | says add myself to it? |
| 22:34.37 | Gnea | jjazz: something like this: pdf2ps -sOutputFile=foo%d.ps && lpr foo3.ps && lpr foo31.ps ... |
| 22:34.46 | streuner | SpinX: are you in modconf? |
| 22:34.48 | dsfas | so, nobody knows? |
| 22:34.54 | dsfas | How about question number two |
| 22:34.58 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: Porting VB and MS SQL would be difficult. But I know I'm not in the right channel, but did you tried already Solaris 10? |
| 22:34.58 | interbird | enraged: anything changed ? |
| 22:35.02 | SpinX | yea |
| 22:35.08 | dsfas | does anyone know how to make it so that robots.txt redirects? |
| 22:35.12 | dsfas | I know someone who did it |
| 22:35.16 | dsfas | but He's offline |
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| 22:35.33 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: Because some companys hate it when the Linux distributions is not comercial or because linux alone is not comercial |
| 22:35.36 | streuner | SpinX: ok, just choose the module, modconf adding the module auto to your /etc/modules as well |
| 22:35.46 | jmg | dsfas: i block all ads |
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| 22:35.56 | dsfas | jmg: what do you mean? |
| 22:36.07 | jmg | jmg: i hate them |
| 22:36.11 | whitehorse1 | I've a broken pkg (hal), it's the latest version in my distribution - which is testing. I'm very happy with testing generally. It's broken as it depends on the newest version of udev (also in testing). However, the Debian udev pkg requires a kernel of >=2.11. I'm running 2.6.8-2; which is still in testing alongside 2.12/2.4. Is the hal br0keness a 'bug'? The ftpmaster removals.txt file referenced from the latest debian wkly news stated earlier |
| 22:36.11 | Ulysses_ | jmg probably uses Firefox+adblock |
| 22:36.11 | whitehorse1 | kernels were removed from unstable, but didn't mention testing. Nor was it cited in ftp-master.debian.org/unmet-deps. Thoughts? |
| 22:36.12 | dsfas | ...yeah |
| 22:36.13 | SpinX | streuner, done |
| 22:36.18 | jmg | Ulysses_: privoxy |
| 22:36.29 | enraged | interbird, haven't touch anything related with it |
| 22:36.30 | dsfas | I use Firefox + Remove it Permanantly |
| 22:36.33 | enraged | it's weird |
| 22:36.39 | Ulysses_ | dsfas, same as me |
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| 22:36.44 | jmg | if someone made glasses that could filter out ads in real life i would buy them |
| 22:36.44 | dsfas | yeah |
| 22:36.47 | dsfas | that one is so awesome |
| 22:36.48 | interbird | enraged: How is the WiFi device connected ? |
| 22:37.10 | enraged | interbird, its a laptop, internal wireless |
| 22:37.11 | Ulysses_ | enraged: try ifconfig eth1 up |
| 22:37.13 | dsfas | I want to know if anyone knows how to make robots.txt redirect to another page? |
| 22:37.14 | Ulysses_ | in the console |
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| 22:37.35 | Ulysses_ | to at least see it in ifconfig status |
| 22:37.43 | enraged | osiris:/home/enraged/ipw2200-1.0.4# ifconfig eth1 up |
| 22:37.43 | enraged | eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 22:37.52 | interbird | enraged: Does lspci show the device ? |
| 22:37.57 | enraged | it has dissapeared |
| 22:37.59 | SpinX | hm |
| 22:38.00 | cutch | where can I get libhowl? |
| 22:38.03 | Ulysses_ | strange |
| 22:38.07 | enraged | interbird, yeah, it does |
| 22:38.12 | streuner | !tell cutch about search |
| 22:38.17 | thingfish | wow, cool, no bots...did somebody ban turkey, or did they just let up for awhile? |
| 22:38.21 | interbird | enraged: Does lsmod show the module ? |
| 22:38.40 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 the problem is workstations will be 'Doz for a couple of years. the servers could switch over, but they would would not know how to administer anything. The switches are controled off-site which makes it harder. |
| 22:38.44 | cutch | streuner: howl isn't in the repoistory anymore, but tons of packages depend on it |
| 22:38.49 | streuner | thingfish: those bots coming from all over the world... |
| 22:38.50 | whitehorse1 | dsfas: robots.txt is just meant for robots/spiders to parse in order to know where/where not to crawl. I haven't heard of what you're asking about & I've read the specs for robots.txt |
| 22:38.58 | LightVision | dsfas: why do you love and promote MS windows? |
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| 22:39.00 | SpinX | still no sound |
| 22:39.08 | guru | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg05217.html |
| 22:39.15 | guru | has anyone else here experienced that problem? |
| 22:39.17 | mohkohn | When I killall gnome-volume-manager and restart gnome-volume-manager my usb appears as /media/usbdisk with root permissions. |
| 22:39.20 | LightVision | SpinX: what sc? |
| 22:39.22 | thingfish | oh, sorry, streuner, someone earlier said they were all from turkey, and I believed him. |
| 22:39.24 | streuner | SpinX: adduser <user> audio, log out and back in |
| 22:39.27 | mohkohn | What would the problem be? |
| 22:39.31 | enraged | interbird, yeah, the module is there, and just to note the card works ok in windows |
| 22:39.39 | mfrisch | digitalsaf25 I can uses a software raid as my device right? |
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| 22:39.54 | SpinX | The user `matt' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 22:40.03 | enraged | only strange thing is that module takes a little more time than normal to load |
| 22:40.09 | digitalsaf25 | mfrisch: I don't know exactly, I'm very newbie in Solaris 10, I know better Linux |
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| 22:40.18 | SimonRaven | we (i anyway) don't care if it "work in wondows", that's not a good standard as to how it will be supported in linux... |
| 22:40.20 | Ulysses_ | enraged: maybe you should disabled or temporarily remove the internal "wired" network card, if it has one |
| 22:40.28 | Guerrrrin | um, is this #solaris? |
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| 22:40.31 | LightVision | SpinX: what did alsaconf say? |
| 22:40.34 | Guerrrrin | nope, thought not. |
| 22:40.41 | SpinX | alsaconf shows no mods or anything. |
| 22:40.41 | streuner | SpinX: so just log out and back in |
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| 22:41.01 | streuner | LightVision: he is running an 2.4.x kernel... |
| 22:41.03 | SimonRaven | arr, Guerin |
| 22:41.15 | Guerin | SimonRaven: arr, 'tis ITLAPD no longer |
| 22:41.16 | jedi_ | Can anyone recommend a program to allow me to a keep a digital diary? Preferably something that shows one entry at a time, and allows me to choose which date I want to see an entry for. |
| 22:41.17 | guru | what would cause printing to be greatly enlarged in mozilla firefox or thunderbird or mozilla on debain using postscript with cups? |
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| 22:41.26 | SimonRaven | Guerin: over there, maybe ;) |
| 22:41.28 | LightVision | I'm about to install Sarge Debian. Should I create 3 different partitions on my hard drive for, /boot /home and /swap ? |
| 22:41.37 | interbird | enraged: Ans this is "overnight" ? -- no updates or changes otherwise ? |
| 22:41.42 | Ulysses_ | enraged: do you have both a wired and wireless network card in your laptop? |
| 22:41.45 | SimonRaven | there is no /swap unless you run swapd |
| 22:41.46 | guru | LightVision: if you are installing on one drive then it's not really necessary |
| 22:41.51 | LightVision | streuner: I dont get sound either on kernel 2.4, but with 2.6.8 I get souns |
| 22:41.52 | mfrisch | LightVision "right" no |
| 22:41.52 | Guerin | LightVision: you might want / as welll |
| 22:41.57 | enraged | Ulysses_, yeah, i've both |
| 22:42.03 | whitehorse1 | Would anyone be able to cionfirm whether the 'hal' package issue above is an as yet unreported bug (in which case I should report it)? Or, if it not a bug and I just need to grin and bear it and upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8-2.6.12 and try and build the fgrlx kernel module |
| 22:42.04 | kikoo_ | LightVision: It is not an obligation, but you shall |
| 22:42.17 | LightVision | kikoo_: shall what? |
| 22:42.19 | enraged | interbird, well, maybe an apt-get upgrade |
| 22:42.31 | enraged | but wonder how this could change anything |
| 22:42.31 | kikoo_ | LightVision: it is better to do ti |
| 22:42.31 | whitehorse1 | jedi Like a blog? try livejournal? |
| 22:42.44 | LightVision | isnt it good to have a seperate partition for /home, so if I ever reinstall Debian or install a newever version? |
| 22:42.48 | Ulysses_ | so try disabling the wired network card as it might currently interfere with the detection of the wireless card. I know someone who had that type of weird problem |
| 22:42.51 | enraged | since module and kernel are compiled by me |
| 22:42.59 | Guerin | LightVision: you never have to reinstall debian. |
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| 22:43.01 | jmg | where can i get fsdiff or similar utility in debian? |
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| 22:43.19 | SpinX | still no sound |
| 22:43.22 | eeyore- | Guerin: there are times (and stupid mistakes) that you would reinstall :) |
| 22:43.23 | whitehorse1 | Guerin cough cough |
| 22:43.27 | seb-- | is there a file that gets run at bootup like rc.local on fedora? |
| 22:43.28 | kikoo_ | [root@webprod2 root]# man bascule |
| 22:43.28 | kikoo_ | No manual entry for bascule |
| 22:43.34 | streuner | SpinX: just run 'aumix' |
| 22:43.38 | Guerin | insert "should" in the above |
| 22:43.39 | fbi | SpinX: did you install the alsa-modules for your 2.4 kernel? |
| 22:43.40 | seb-- | where turn off services like chkconfig on fedora? |
| 22:43.41 | LightVision | SpinX: dont get sound either on kernel 2.4, but with 2.6.8 I get souns |
| 22:43.42 | interbird | enraged: That depends on what is upgraded... |
| 22:43.47 | Guerin | !services |
| 22:43.47 | dpkg | from memory, services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/ |
| 22:43.58 | LightVision | SpinX: I dont get sound either on kernel 2.4, but with 2.6.8 I get sound and it works |
| 22:43.59 | SpinX | everything is on level 100. |
| 22:44.19 | LightVision | fbi: how do you install the alsa-modules for 2.4 kernel? |
| 22:44.27 | streuner | SpinX: and in xmms or whatever you see something? |
| 22:44.36 | SpinX | libmikmod.so.2 |
| 22:44.37 | SimonRaven | LightVision: i would say it's a good idea. if not /home, a symlink called /home, where the real data sits in say /var/home, or similar. but /home is easier to set up (as if a symlink is hard to make ;) |
| 22:44.37 | fbi | LightVision: apt-get? aptitude? |
| 22:44.46 | streuner | SpinX: just ignore that |
| 22:44.47 | SimonRaven | LightVision: you patch it |
| 22:44.49 | LightVision | SimonRaven: :) |
| 22:44.57 | streuner | SpinX: are you in KDE or GNOME? |
| 22:44.59 | SpinX | other than that, nothing.. |
| 22:45.00 | SpinX | Fluxbox. |
| 22:45.02 | fbi | SpinX: the 2.6 kernel comes with alsa, why not just install and boot a new kernel |
| 22:45.07 | abrotman | did sarge 3.1r1 get released today? |
| 22:45.11 | SimonRaven | 2.4 doesn't have alsa - it's a native 2.6 thing. |
| 22:45.21 | interbird | enraged: Do you know what WiFi chipset is on your LT ? |
| 22:45.23 | SpinX | my video and sound card sucks.. im surprised i got xorg to work. |
| 22:45.26 | LightVision | SpinX: I dont get sound on kernel 2.4, but with 2.6.8 I get sound and it works, so do as I did, install kernel 2.6.8 |
| 22:45.38 | streuner | heh |
| 22:45.38 | interbird | enraged: More easy, what LT ? |
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| 22:45.53 | marcm | hey there |
| 22:45.58 | marcm | this might be the wrong channel to ask, but I don't know where else to ask: I'm thinking about getting a Pentium D 820, dual core, is it worth it? |
| 22:46.03 | eeyore- | SimonRaven: why do you even need a symlink? mount /dev/.... /home |
| 22:46.13 | whitehorse1 | LightVision If the entire distribution is testing though; a current broken depdncy (for me at least) exists with 2.6.8 |
| 22:46.18 | abrotman | marcm: #hardware |
| 22:46.22 | marcm | thx |
| 22:46.24 | LightVision | marcm: depends on what you using it for |
| 22:46.28 | eeyore- | SimonRaven: or, mount nfs-server:/export/home /home |
| 22:46.28 | SimonRaven | eeyore-: read what i said. but yeh, -o bind mounts work now :) |
| 22:46.30 | abrotman | ok .. why does sarge have a ton of XFree updates today? |
| 22:46.35 | SimonRaven | or that |
| 22:46.36 | LightVision | whitehorse1: ? |
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| 22:46.41 | SimonRaven | abrotman: security |
| 22:46.47 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i see no DSA |
| 22:46.51 | dsfas-pirate | I'm a pirate |
| 22:46.53 | dsfas-pirate | arrr |
| 22:46.56 | marcm | LightVision mostly apps, GIMP, Star Office, some gaming, I got an ATI X800, video encoding |
| 22:46.56 | streuner | SpinX: start in a shell xmms, do you get any errors then? |
| 22:47.01 | dsfas-pirate | It's september |
| 22:47.03 | dsfas-pirate | 19 |
| 22:47.04 | Ulysses_ | i think we all are dsfas :-p |
| 22:47.06 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: no, you are a troll, arrr :) |
| 22:47.06 | thingfish | marcm: beware that often, the newer the hardware, the more likely you are finding support for it amongst the various linux distros. |
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| 22:47.11 | SimonRaven | abrotman: read the earlier ones |
| 22:47.19 | dsfas-pirate | I am not! arrrr |
| 22:47.22 | SpinX | Message: device: default, and about limmikmod.so.2 no suhc file.. |
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| 22:47.27 | abrotman | earlier? |
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| 22:47.33 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: take that eye patch off |
| 22:47.42 | dsfas-pirate | LightVision: why |
| 22:47.44 | Ulysses_ | dsfas , no it's sept 20 here :-p |
| 22:47.47 | streuner | SpinX: have you configured xmms to use OSS output plugin? |
| 22:47.48 | interbird | enraged: If you have a Knoppix bootable CD, boot from that and see if Knoppix sees the device |
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| 22:47.54 | fbi | SpinX: install 2.6 kernel. reboot. run alsaconf. |
| 22:47.55 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: looks silly :) |
| 22:47.56 | dsfas-pirate | where do you live lysses? |
| 22:47.56 | marcm | thingfish I got an Athlon 3800 now, NewCastle, on an nForce 4 Ultra, and Linux support is iffy |
| 22:47.56 | thingfish | and besides, if I were buying a new cpu, I think I'd switch over to AMD. |
| 22:47.59 | Ulysses_ | good idea interbird |
| 22:48.01 | eeyore- | dfsas: this is some sort of festival, eh? |
| 22:48.03 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i see nothing that would be related |
| 22:48.10 | dsfas-pirate | LightVision: how about now? I put it on my other eye. |
| 22:48.22 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i mean .. 54 packages |
| 22:48.26 | Ulysses_ | Belgium |
| 22:48.27 | dsfas-pirate | eeyore-: no its just "talk like a pirate day" |
| 22:48.29 | dsfas-pirate | haha |
| 22:48.30 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: thats better ;) |
| 22:48.33 | interbird | :-) |
| 22:48.36 | dsfas-pirate | thanks |
| 22:48.46 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: no probs, arrrr |
| 22:48.47 | Ulysses_ | thanks to whom? :-) |
| 22:48.56 | eeyore- | dsfas-pirate: you'd have to get a case of scurvy to go with it. pretty hard these days. |
| 22:49.01 | dsfas-pirate | thank ye matey, arrrr |
| 22:49.06 | mfrisch | arrr |
| 22:49.08 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i see one from May .. but that seems really old |
| 22:49.12 | LightVision | dsfas-pirate: hehe |
| 22:49.13 | SimonRaven | http://www.de.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-723 |
| 22:49.17 | thingfish | talk like a pirate day was yesterday. |
| 22:49.20 | ricky_clarkson | Why is everyone talking like homeless people from Somerset?! |
| 22:49.31 | LightVision | thingfish: and whats today? talk like a fish? |
| 22:49.31 | mfrisch | ;-) |
| 22:49.33 | abrotman | SimonRaven: that's uber-old :) |
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| 22:49.35 | thingfish | or was that this morning... |
| 22:49.43 | dsfas-pirate | we are not homeless! |
| 22:49.43 | SpinX | brb rebooting |
| 22:49.48 | gravity | No, that's not it... |
| 22:49.50 | LightVision | ricky_clarkson: careful, kelly lives there |
| 22:49.53 | dsfas-pirate | I have a pretty nice ship that I am captain of! ARRRRR! |
| 22:49.56 | Ulysses_ | ricky: cause it's 12:49 AM here and i'm dog gone tired |
| 22:49.57 | ricky_clarkson | LightVision: My sister? |
| 22:50.01 | gravity | The new security advisory went out on the 12th |
| 22:50.01 | SimonRaven | abrotman: i know. just old. über-old would be for 2001 ;p |
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| 22:50.06 | gravity | I don't know if the DSA ever went out though |
| 22:50.07 | LightVision | ricky_clarkson: yeah kelly |
| 22:50.10 | thingfish | anyway, whats-his-name-XP and Phated were going on like pirates. |
| 22:50.12 | ricky_clarkson | Ulysses_: It's 11:50 in Somerset. |
| 22:50.13 | SimonRaven | haven't seen it yet |
| 22:50.15 | abrotman | SimonRaven: notice .. it does adddress woody :) |
| 22:50.28 | gravity | We had the packages ready well in advance for sid, sarge, and woody |
| 22:50.34 | dsfas-pirate | thingfish: today is "talk like a pirate day" |
| 22:50.37 | dsfas-pirate | september 19 |
| 22:50.40 | abrotman | gravity: slackers! |
| 22:50.42 | SimonRaven | dsa isn't out yet |
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| 22:50.56 | ricky_clarkson | dsfas-pirate: Phew, it'll be over in 10 minutes. |
| 22:50.58 | abrotman | gravity: what .. you guys can code .. just not write email? :) |
| 22:50.58 | SimonRaven | or i missed it |
| 22:51.01 | gravity | SimonRaven: Joey seems to be busy. He uploaded the packages, but they failed to go in. |
| 22:51.04 | ricky_clarkson | Or 1 hour 10 if you want UTC. |
| 22:51.08 | SimonRaven | oh. i see |
| 22:51.10 | gravity | SimonRaven: For woody at any rate. The sarge ones went in. |
| 22:51.11 | Ulysses_ | dsfas: because it's sept 20 for me, i dont need to talk like you :-p |
| 22:51.17 | gravity | abrotman: On occasion :-) |
| 22:51.20 | SimonRaven | i saw last night |
| 22:51.22 | ricky_clarkson | International talk like a prick day. |
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| 22:51.38 | quist | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.40 | abrotman | why aren't the emails automated? .. security goes up .. DSA goes out ... |
| 22:51.50 | gravity | I think they are |
| 22:51.56 | abrotman | there's no DSA :) |
| 22:51.57 | SimonRaven | quist: remove the leading whitespace |
| 22:51.59 | gravity | Like I said, they didn't go in to woody |
| 22:52.04 | gravity | Those failed. I don't recall why. |
| 22:52.08 | abrotman | woody has X ? |
| 22:52.13 | streuner | heh |
| 22:52.14 | SimonRaven | xfree, yes |
| 22:52.18 | gravity | heh |
| 22:52.19 | quist | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.19 | SimonRaven | @lart abrotman |
| 22:52.28 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 22:52.30 | quist | Thanks! |
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| 22:52.36 | SpinX | hrm no sound still |
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| 22:52.50 | gravity | Anyway, if you run unstable, you're protected with -7. |
| 22:52.51 | SimonRaven | anyway, GTG. see you #debianers later |
| 22:52.55 | LightVision | SpinX: you using kernel 2.6.8 ? |
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| 22:53.01 | LightVision | SimonRaven: bye |
| 22:53.01 | SpinX | yea |
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| 22:53.03 | gravity | If you run testing you may want to pull -7 from unstable, since arm is holding it up |
| 22:53.13 | gravity | Which reminds me... I need to see about getting it in to testing anyway. |
| 22:53.19 | LightVision | SpinX: u run salsaconf ? |
| 22:53.26 | SimonRaven | arm isn't just holding up elbows i see |
| 22:53.30 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:53.30 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:53.36 | thingfish | hehe salsaconf |
| 22:53.45 | streuner | heh |
| 22:53.47 | LightVision | SpinX: you have speakers pluged into righjt place in video card? |
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| 22:54.02 | suposs | Is there a way of looking at the contents of a bz2 file without unpacking it first? |
| 22:54.05 | thingfish | then you'd need an app called dipserve |
| 22:54.06 | streuner | SpinX: why did you told me you are running a 2.4.x kernel? |
| 22:54.13 | interbird | u u u |
| 22:54.13 | SpinX | i just put 2.6.8 |
| 22:54.19 | streuner | argh |
| 22:54.19 | abrotman | !tell interbird about u |
| 22:54.23 | eeyore- | speakers in video card? |
| 22:54.28 | LightVision | streuner: he just installed 2.6.8 |
| 22:54.31 | eeyore- | they make them that way now? |
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| 22:54.36 | SpinX | i ran alsaconf |
| 22:54.40 | thingfish | hehe eeyore- |
| 22:54.41 | LightVision | SpinX: you have speakers pluged into righjt place in sound card? |
| 22:54.42 | abrotman | eeyore-: only for macs :) |
| 22:54.44 | SpinX | yea |
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| 22:54.51 | interbird | Just checking dpkg's recursivity :-) |
| 22:54.51 | SpinX | it found via82xx |
| 22:54.53 | LightVision | eeyore-: heehe typo :) i meant sound card :P |
| 22:55.05 | stew | suposs: no, but you dont' have to unpack it to disk. you can bzcat it or bzless it (or bzmore if you are so inclined). if it is a tar.bz2 and you want contents then tar tvjf |
| 22:55.06 | LightVision | SpinX: whats your sound card? |
| 22:55.06 | streuner | SpinX: those modules 'BLOCKS' you sound NOW! |
| 22:55.23 | streuner | SpinX: OSS MODULES |
| 22:55.31 | LightVision | streuner: hehe, so he shouldnt have installed the modules if he was instaling 2.6.8? |
| 22:55.55 | fbi | the OSS modules were already there. |
| 22:56.05 | SpinX | ran alsaconf, alsamixer.. |
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| 22:56.10 | suposs | stew: thanks |
| 22:56.14 | streuner | LightVision: NOT those OSS modules which are in his RAM, loaded by /etc/modules ;-) |
| 22:56.23 | LightVision | streuner: ok :) |
| 22:56.55 | fbi | SpinX: did you even see your soundcard in the alsaconf menu? |
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| 22:57.01 | SpinX | fbi, yea |
| 22:57.08 | LightVision | fbi: via82xx |
| 22:57.18 | fbi | what is that? |
| 22:57.23 | abrotman | and alsa *is* the easy way :) |
| 22:57.24 | fbi | on-board sound or something? |
| 22:57.25 | whitehorse1 | The dpkg bot should probably mention debian-desktop.org I think, when asked about kde3.4. |
| 22:57.38 | gravity | Does debian-desktop.org actually do anything yet? |
| 22:57.46 | abrotman | why? |
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| 22:57.48 | LightVision | fbi: no idea, sounds weird eh |
| 22:57.55 | LightVision | fbi: excuse the pun :P |
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| 22:58.15 | fbi | heh i wouldn't know, i've always used pci sound hardware |
| 22:58.15 | abrotman | if there were info at debian-desktop about kde3.4 .. maybe |
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| 22:58.18 | stew | gravity: any idea why i get "Error loading new keyboard description" when i try to setxkbmap us? |
| 22:58.23 | magyar | am looking for the kernel source package for sid? |
| 22:58.24 | LightVision | fbi: me too |
| 22:58.27 | SpinX | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.27 | SpinX | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.28 | whitehorse1 | gravity Yes it gave me kde3.4.1; thus I heart it ;) |
| 22:58.30 | gravity | stew: No idea... sorry |
| 22:58.38 | stew | magyar: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 22:58.41 | gravity | stew: xkb is still a total mystery to me at this point |
| 22:58.45 | stew | np |
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| 22:59.02 | abrotman | that stuff should be listed at apt-get or they should work with backports.org |
| 22:59.05 | abrotman | err apt-get.org |
| 22:59.06 | whitehorse1 | abrotman there is. inc sources.list suggestions to get it under a testing platform |
| 22:59.12 | jeff01 | hey, i am a bit of a newbie, and am having problems with x server. It just stopped working, and the log says that xie and pex5 cant load because they are not there. I tried apt-cache search for both of them, and i cant find them to download them |
| 22:59.23 | sward | On the debian-desktop site.. AIM and ICQ, but no Jabber contact, shocking |
| 22:59.41 | abrotman | !info kdebase etch |
| 22:59.49 | dpkg | kdebase: (KDE Base metapackage), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-1 (etch), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
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| 22:59.57 | abrotman | oh dear .. only 3.3 .. my life will end! |
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| 23:00.07 | gravity | jeff01: How did you install X? |
| 23:00.08 | magyar | stew: thank you |
| 23:00.09 | abrotman | jeff01: how did you install X ? |
| 23:00.13 | SpinX | sound works.. odd. |
| 23:00.14 | SpinX | lol. |
| 23:00.14 | abrotman | gravity: copycat! |
| 23:00.16 | gravity | heh |
| 23:00.23 | abrotman | gravity: did you sign up for tickets ? |
| 23:00.24 | whitehorse1 | sward pre-gmail client (which I've yet to use) Jabber wasn't used much though. I knw about its advantages over proprietary closed netwks but still, probably the reason |
| 23:00.27 | jeff01 | when i loaded debian on the machine like 5 months ago |
| 23:00.28 | SpinX | it's using my onboard audio |
| 23:00.32 | gravity | abrotman: Tickets? |
| 23:00.34 | quist | Can someone point me to the current gnome install problems using unstable? |
| 23:00.39 | abrotman | gravity: postseason sox tix |
| 23:00.46 | gravity | jeff01: You need to be more specific than that. |
| 23:00.46 | abrotman | jeff01: apt-get install x-window-system ? |
| 23:00.47 | LightVision | SpinX: what did you do? |
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| 23:00.53 | abrotman | thomas_adam: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:00.54 | sward | whitehorse1: It was.. I know a whole group of people who use it |
| 23:00.57 | gravity | abrotman: Heh, no way. I'm not going to get gouged for tickets. |
| 23:00.57 | quist | apt-get install gnome |
| 23:00.58 | stew | abrotman: my wife thinks they are still going to blow it |
| 23:01.03 | SpinX | LightVision, switched to the onboard |
| 23:01.03 | LightVision | SpinX: what did you do now to get it to work? |
| 23:01.04 | thomas_adam | Hello. |
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| 23:01.07 | streuner | SpinX: do you have another soundcard 'stick' in your box? |
| 23:01.08 | jjazz | abrotman: I presume you mean White Sox ;) |
| 23:01.13 | jeff01 | abrotman: i dont remember, but pretty sure i used apt |
| 23:01.15 | abrotman | gravity: i don't think you do from the normal box office |
| 23:01.20 | abrotman | stew: no way! |
| 23:01.21 | stew | abrotman: i don't think they will. she is just terrified of nyy |
| 23:01.24 | abrotman | thomas_adam: you've been hiding! |
| 23:01.31 | thomas_adam | Busy, more like. |
| 23:01.34 | sward | whitehorse1: and until Google do what they say they will, and allow other Jabber nets to communicate with, I consider it closed |
| 23:01.35 | abrotman | stew: they lost Wright and Giambi |
| 23:01.40 | whitehorse1 | abrotman :p hey it's quite a UI update |
| 23:01.44 | abrotman | giambi is just his back again .. but Wright .. gone |
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| 23:01.53 | interbird | jeff01: Dunno but check /etc/X11/xorg.conf of XF86Config-4.conf -- mark then out if the're there and try again |
| 23:01.57 | LightVision | SpinX: you had an on board sound and pci card? |
| 23:01.58 | jjazz | abrotman: Wright was worthless and Giambi will be back quite soon. |
| 23:02.01 | abrotman | whitehorse1: crap by any other name is still crap :) |
| 23:02.08 | SpinX | yeah |
| 23:02.14 | jeff01 | interbird: aight, ill give that a shot |
| 23:02.16 | abrotman | jjazz: quite soon .. yes .. but effective? |
| 23:02.20 | whitehorse1 | abrotman gnomefan? |
| 23:02.20 | LightVision | SpinX: why didnt you tell us that earlier? |
| 23:02.25 | SpinX | forgot :p |
| 23:02.27 | abrotman | gravity: so .. if i get tix .. you dont' want to go? |
| 23:02.31 | SpinX | and i thought i had onboard disabled. |
| 23:02.32 | abrotman | whitehorse1: gnome or blackbox |
| 23:02.35 | streuner | SpinX: ok, just disable the onboard-chip in your BIOS and re-run alsaconfig |
| 23:02.38 | jjazz | abrotman: I believe so. It's just back spasms. |
| 23:02.39 | LightVision | SpinX: and you can even turn off the on board in BIOS |
| 23:02.43 | SpinX | streuner, it's fine for now. |
| 23:02.49 | gravity | abrotman: Do you think you've really got a shot? |
| 23:02.50 | SpinX | hell, onboard didn't work in win32. so i bought a new one. |
| 23:02.51 | SpinX | lol |
| 23:02.56 | abrotman | jjazz: but that can continue .. sometimes just overnight . sometimes for weeks .. that's the problem |
| 23:02.59 | LightVision | SpinX: scardy cat :) |
| 23:03.03 | abrotman | gravity: i signed up .. it's a lottery |
| 23:03.06 | streuner | onboard-chip sound is a PITA :-) |
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| 23:03.13 | gravity | abrotman: Good luck! :-) |
| 23:03.18 | LightVision | streuner: :) |
| 23:03.22 | whitehorse1 | abrotman can't see the attraction in gnome myself; but variety's the spice of life :) |
| 23:03.24 | jjazz | abrotman: We shall see. I'm eternally optimistic with my Yanks. |
| 23:03.24 | abrotman | gravity: and i didnt' get to fenway this year .. so if i get them .. i'll go |
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| 23:03.35 | interbird | jeff01: aight ? -- what language is that ? |
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| 23:03.40 | abrotman | whitehorse1: i'm sorry .. you probably drink budweiser too :) |
| 23:03.41 | SpinX | streuner, thanks for all your time, and yuo too LightVision. |
| 23:03.54 | LightVision | SpinX: that was a very important detail to have left out |
| 23:03.56 | streuner | SpinX: have fun, you are welcome |
| 23:03.58 | abrotman | jjazz: sucks doesn't it .. now you know what it's like to be a redsox fan :) |
| 23:04.01 | LightVision | SpinX: np |
| 23:04.08 | quist | Or in the meantime... how does one save the window/desktop configuration using enlightenment? |
| 23:04.09 | LightVision | SpinX: now go listen to your ABBA CD |
| 23:04.14 | LightVision | SpinX: :) |
| 23:04.15 | SpinX | abba? :p |
| 23:04.15 | abrotman | jjazz: the torture .. year after year .. oh so close .. just not quite good enough :) |
| 23:04.21 | SpinX | im listening to some hindu mp3 if ound off google. |
| 23:04.22 | SpinX | lol.. |
| 23:04.24 | LightVision | SpinX: ;) |
| 23:04.27 | SpinX | no idea what hes saying =) |
| 23:04.33 | whitehorse1 | abrotman That depends whether you mean the Czech Bud or the urine-a-like American travesty Bud. ;p |
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| 23:04.36 | concept10 | What is a good channel for web development talk? |
| 23:04.43 | LightVision | SpinX: hindu is evil, delete it dude |
| 23:04.45 | abrotman | whitehorse1: did i spell it wrong? |
| 23:04.48 | jjazz | abrotman: Well, I'm a Met fan too, so I know what it's like to root for a team that never realizes its potential. |
| 23:04.49 | abrotman | concept10: #www |
| 23:04.51 | thomas_adam | quist: You run it under a session manager. |
| 23:04.52 | abrotman | err #web ? |
| 23:04.54 | SpinX | lol |
| 23:05.00 | SpinX | reminds me of a little kid speaking |
| 23:05.08 | abrotman | jjazz: they overspent .. they got what they deserved |
| 23:05.17 | abrotman | jjazz: they thought they could buy contention |
| 23:05.18 | LightVision | SpinX: I am a little kid, im 14 |
| 23:05.25 | quist | thomas_adam: correct. I've done that. Now I want to save the windows set up |
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| 23:05.44 | SpinX | eh this mp3s annoying. 10 minutes long |
| 23:05.46 | jjazz | abrotman: Too true. |
| 23:05.47 | LightVision | SpinX: how old are you grandpa? |
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| 23:05.53 | thomas_adam | quist: Just logout. |
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| 23:05.53 | SpinX | 18, son. :P |
| 23:05.59 | streuner | LightVision: we are _ALL_ kids, no matter if you are 8 or 80 ;-) |
| 23:06.00 | gozz | what it the dvd+rw tools package called? |
| 23:06.03 | LightVision | SpinX: hehe ;) |
| 23:06.03 | thomas_adam | quist: That's why you have a SM. |
| 23:06.04 | abrotman | jjazz: Beltran was a horrible bust for them .. oh well |
| 23:06.10 | LightVision | streuner: agreed :) |
| 23:06.13 | abrotman | jjazz: wanna trade beltran for manny ? |
| 23:06.28 | quist | thomas_adam: done that.. nothing, no windows (firefox, gaim) get saved. |
| 23:06.37 | SpinX | i'm going to install kde. |
| 23:07.15 | jjazz | abrotman: They got the name that will drive fans to their cable system. At least Pedro's arm hasn't fallen off yet. Beltran is overpaid, but I wouldn't trade him for Manny. |
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| 23:07.38 | thomas_adam | quist: Ask in #E |
| 23:07.40 | abrotman | jjazz: that tendon in his arm .. i'm surprised it hasn't given yet .. maybe next year! |
| 23:07.44 | gozz | is it a apt-get package? |
| 23:07.51 | abrotman | !dvdrw |
| 23:07.52 | whitehorse1 | abrotman Well, I guess as a proper noun it could've used a capital letter but fine beyond that. ;> |
| 23:07.59 | sward | gozz: Quite coincidentally, I'm sure, they're called dvd+rw-tools |
| 23:08.10 | abrotman | whitehorse1: que? |
| 23:08.17 | sward | !tell gozz about search |
| 23:08.20 | kadigibox | Does anyone know of any problems with SATA DVD burners? |
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| 23:08.25 | Seona | http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-help me please |
| 23:08.58 | streuner | oh, our gentoo friend who want to show us his fantastic website :-) |
| 23:09.01 | abrotman | Seona: why did you spam us ? |
| 23:09.13 | gravity | We have a gentoo friend? |
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| 23:09.24 | LightVision | streuner: lol |
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| 23:09.40 | streuner | gravity: i would call him friend, because its just funny ;-) |
| 23:09.48 | gravity | heh |
| 23:10.04 | E-bola | hmmm is ther eproblems with clamav? |
| 23:10.06 | eeyore- | what kind of URL is that? |
| 23:10.06 | gozz | thanks also where do i look for DMA settings? |
| 23:10.12 | abrotman | eeyore-: it's spam |
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| 23:10.17 | E-bola | i get: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** |
| 23:10.23 | nimak | ewww its all in russion |
| 23:10.27 | E-bola | but there arent any newer packages on apt.get ? |
| 23:10.35 | eeyore- | the graphic is kinda nice |
| 23:10.37 | interbird | Any gimp experts among you kids here ? |
| 23:10.37 | SpinX | which package is kde? 'kde'? |
| 23:10.43 | sward | gozz: /msg dpkg dma |
| 23:10.46 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 23:10.46 | dpkg | i heard install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 23:10.48 | LightVision | E-bola: so update it |
| 23:10.53 | gravity | apt.get? Do we have another unofficial apt repo? |
| 23:10.53 | thomas_adam | SpinX: As a meta-package.... |
| 23:10.57 | E-bola | lightversion: how? |
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| 23:11.02 | kadigibox | interbird, I am not a gimp expert but I could possibly help |
| 23:11.06 | saloxin | E-bola: try volatile |
| 23:11.40 | nimak | i use gimp |
| 23:11.42 | abrotman | interbird: also .. #gimp on irc.gimp.net (i think) |
| 23:11.45 | saloxin | !tell E-bola about volatile |
| 23:11.49 | LightVision | E-bola: add deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main |
| 23:11.58 | E-bola | thanks |
| 23:12.02 | E-bola | reading on the volatile page |
| 23:12.04 | interbird | kadigibox: I lost my Teddy -- euhh, I lost my print-menu -- serious. |
| 23:12.04 | SpinX | everytime i apt get, says unmet dependencies. |
| 23:12.04 | E-bola | didnt knew about that |
| 23:12.05 | LightVision | E-bola: deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main , then "apt-get update" |
| 23:12.06 | saloxin | :-) |
| 23:12.08 | concept10 | I need a good gmail notifier... what are you guys using? |
| 23:12.11 | eeyore- | geez, i was happy it was almost five (4:54) until i ran ntpdate and my clock was set back 30 minutes :-p |
| 23:12.24 | interbird | abrotman: Will check, thanks. |
| 23:12.24 | eeyore- | uh, 43 minutes. i can't count. |
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| 23:12.25 | sward | !tell concept10 about polls |
| 23:12.26 | abrotman | eeyore-: you know .. you should run that more often :) |
| 23:12.27 | LightVision | E-bola: know, not knew |
| 23:12.31 | p8m | free time! |
| 23:12.33 | kikoo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.42 | concept10 | sward: what are you using |
| 23:12.42 | nimak | concept10: thunderbird := |
| 23:12.44 | nimak | P |
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| 23:13.01 | concept10 | nimak: i dont want to keep thunderbird open |
| 23:13.07 | LightVision | nimak: why not use kmail? |
| 23:13.23 | nimak | i like thunderbird :-) |
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| 23:13.41 | LightVision | nimak: what can thundebird do that kmail cant? |
| 23:13.44 | eeyore- | abrotman: i wonder if speedstep makes for fun timekeeping ... without running ntpd |
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| 23:13.47 | abrotman | i think it's official .. seona is spammer .. /whois is showing a large number of channels |
| 23:13.49 | sward | concept10: Use pop access and some notification tool for that then, xbiff, wmmail, blah |
| 23:13.58 | LightVision | nimak: and kmail has intetgrated spam and virus checking |
| 23:13.59 | nimak | LightVision: be cool |
| 23:14.00 | thomas_adam | xlassie. |
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| 23:14.12 | Lilldude | liable are you here? |
| 23:14.18 | abrotman | again? |
| 23:14.18 | nimak | besides, i dont use kde |
| 23:14.24 | LightVision | nimak: you saying I should be Fonzie? |
| 23:14.34 | concept10 | sward: I was happy polling for the best option... the package mail-notification doesnt work too well |
| 23:14.48 | SpinX | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 23:14.48 | SpinX | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 23:14.48 | SpinX | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 23:14.48 | SpinX | or been moved out of Incoming. |
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| 23:14.54 | Lilldude | bob2 |
| 23:14.55 | nimak | LightVision: naw, fonzie dropped out |
| 23:14.59 | SpinX | damn it@mouse. |
| 23:14.59 | Lilldude | i need admin |
| 23:15.01 | nimak | of school |
| 23:15.05 | whitehorse1 | [relating to testing (etch) dist.] Have a broken pkg (hal - latest ver in testing) it's broke as it depends on a newer version of udev. apt-get allows an upgrade to the newer udev which is the latest version in testing. However, udev requires a kernel >=2.6.11 (I've 2.6.8). Is the dependency issue a bug? removals.txt on ftp-master.debian.org lists earlier kernels as removed from unstable but not testing; nor does ftp-master list either pkg in |
| 23:15.05 | whitehorse1 | their broken deps section. Thoughts? |
| 23:15.07 | abrotman | Lilldude: you need what ? |
| 23:15.18 | Lilldude | cant reg my debian nick |
| 23:15.22 | abrotman | whitehorse1: linux-image ... |
| 23:15.23 | eeyore- | nimak: Fonzie is a fictional character, for crying out loud |
| 23:15.27 | abrotman | Lilldude: they can't help you .. ask #freenode |
| 23:15.35 | ircops | just built 2.6.13.2 testing brb |
| 23:15.38 | sward | !tell concept10 about bad polls |
| 23:15.38 | gozz | hdparm command not found and /etc/hdparm.conf has no settings in it? |
| 23:15.40 | Lilldude | ok i will try that be back |
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| 23:15.48 | sward | concept10: I'm not answering a poll |
| 23:15.50 | concept10 | sward: dont do that again |
| 23:15.56 | nimak | i really dont care about what mailclient you sue |
| 23:15.57 | nimak | use |
| 23:16.01 | abrotman | Lilldude: you did mean your irc nick .. right ? |
| 23:16.14 | magyar | is there a reason why sid is using "linux-image" but sarge is using "kernel-image"? |
| 23:16.23 | concept10 | sward: if you dont like my question, save yourself some keystrokes and dont answer |
| 23:16.32 | abrotman | Lilldude: you did mean your irc nick .. right ? |
| 23:16.45 | whitehorse1 | magyar er debian patches to sarge's installed kernel perhaps |
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| 23:17.05 | abrotman | ok ... fine .. dont' answer me |
| 23:17.38 | abrotman | concept10: or you could learn to ask a better question |
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| 23:17.45 | _quik | hey folks |
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| 23:18.16 | _quik | I'm trying to work out how to share some stuff on the network for mac os x, are there any docs that I should be reading? |
| 23:18.23 | concept10 | abrotman: negative |
| 23:18.48 | whitehorse1 | abrotman Oh yeah I can install a newer linux-image if that's what you mean (which'd require module re-building tho so I'd rather not) but that doesn't cover the broken deps issue - if it's a bug I mean? [etch installed 2.6.8-2-386 for me and apt-get doesn't list any kernel images as updates :>] |
| 23:18.52 | abrotman | concept10: then don't ask at all .. asking vague questions wastes your time and ours |
| 23:18.57 | concept10 | abrotman: negative |
| 23:18.59 | _quik | I'm not sure that samba is the way to go, cause we're using afp (the apple networking protocol, whatever its called) |
| 23:19.14 | abrotman | putz |
| 23:19.23 | whitehorse1 | abrotman excuse me? |
| 23:19.24 | peterS | whitehorse1: linux-image-2.6.12-1-* are in etch |
| 23:19.28 | abrotman | whitehorse1: because they're called linux-image now |
| 23:19.30 | abrotman | whitehorse1: not you |
| 23:19.30 | concept10 | abrotman: I havent 'wasted' anyones time. I asked a simple question. |
| 23:19.40 | abrotman | concept10: and you got more than one answer |
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| 23:19.43 | whitehorse1 | abrotman ah ok cool |
| 23:19.50 | dondelelcaro | magyar: primarily because there are other kernels besides "linux" |
| 23:19.52 | abrotman | whitehorse1: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 23:19.58 | concept10 | abrotman: point it out. |
| 23:20.05 | abrotman | uhm .. no |
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| 23:20.23 | Unified | hi |
| 23:20.34 | concept10 | abrotman: well, no proof, just lame comments... |
| 23:20.41 | abrotman | lame question |
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| 23:20.48 | concept10 | heh |
| 23:20.52 | abrotman | Lilldude: you have to wait for voice there .. you did mean your IRC nick right ? |
| 23:20.53 | LightVision | is KDE: 3.3.2 the latest for Sarge? |
| 23:20.57 | SpinX | every kde package it needs something, goto install it.. it's required by something else.. ugh. |
| 23:20.57 | peterS | concept10: dude, he is right, you got answers |
| 23:20.59 | abrotman | !info kdebase sarge |
| 23:21.02 | Unified | how can i assign commands to keys recognized by acpi events? |
| 23:21.02 | dpkg | kdebase: (KDE Base metapackage), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 23:21.05 | LightVision | peterS: hello there :) |
| 23:21.09 | peterS | hey |
| 23:21.13 | Lilldude | abortman voice waht that? |
| 23:21.14 | interbird | concept10: lawyer ? |
| 23:21.19 | abrotman | Lilldude: in #freenode |
| 23:21.25 | abrotman | Lilldude: so you can speak |
| 23:21.32 | Lilldude | nevor heard any one |
| 23:21.44 | abrotman | Lilldude: you can't register your IRC nick .. correct? |
| 23:21.53 | Lilldude | right |
| 23:21.53 | concept10 | peterS: I got ONE answer. I was looking for suggestions! How difficult is that? |
| 23:22.04 | abrotman | Lilldude: /msg nickserv help |
| 23:22.09 | peterS | concept10: very. how many questions have you answered here so far? |
| 23:22.17 | abrotman | Lilldude: if that doesn't work .. return to #freenode .. and wait for someone to give you permission to speak |
| 23:22.22 | concept10 | peterS: many over the years |
| 23:22.26 | resiak | Lilldude: /topic |
| 23:22.28 | interbird | One bird is better than a pair of wings |
| 23:22.41 | concept10 | peterS: albiet none today |
| 23:22.43 | peterS | concept10: I don't recall seeing you here. you keep a low profile |
| 23:22.48 | abrotman | !seen concept10 |
| 23:22.48 | dpkg | concept10 is currently on #debian (47m 15s). Has said a total of 1493 messages. Is idling for 7s |
| 23:22.55 | LightVision | interbird: only if you want to eat the bird's body |
| 23:23.01 | whitehorse1 | peters I realise that and can install them of course; that's not what I'm confused over. It's the broken pkg hal - requiring udev to be upgraded...which needs a newer kernel than my 2.6.8 one. Yet neither the latest issue of debian wkly news nor the full removals file on ftp-master.debian.org mention 2.6.8 being removed and the broken packages section of the ftp-master site doesn't mention hal/udev. I'm wondering if it's a bug which I should |
| 23:23.01 | whitehorse1 | report, on that basis; or, whether it's correct behaviour. (I'm otherwise happy generally w/etch) |
| 23:23.04 | thomas_adam | Hmm, use a different one, then. |
| 23:23.09 | eeyore- | interbird: legs, thighs ... |
| 23:23.10 | concept10 | !seen abrotman |
| 23:23.10 | nimak | whoah, thats cool |
| 23:23.10 | dpkg | abrotman is currently on #debian (41m 51s). Has said a total of 133851 messages. Is idling for 22s |
| 23:23.12 | Seona | http://www.nextworld.ru/?rid=55967-hi guys, i really need your help,my brother is in hospital and i really hope that you can help him.. |
| 23:23.16 | nimak | !seen nimak |
| 23:23.17 | dpkg | nimak is currently on #debian (1d 15h 34m 10s). Has said a total of 199 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 23:23.18 | HedgeMage | Lilldude: if you need staff help, /stats p then /msg someone |
| 23:23.20 | abrotman | !ops Seona spamming |
| 23:23.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Seona spamming |
| 23:23.31 | resiak | abrotman for ops! abrotman for ops! |
| 23:23.34 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
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| 23:23.40 | abrotman | gravity: doh! |
| 23:23.54 | Lilldude | thnanks going back to freenode |
| 23:23.56 | eeyore- | !seen eeyore- |
| 23:23.56 | dpkg | eeyore- is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 11199 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 23:24.04 | interbird | eeyore-: No, no, I didn't mention woman |
| 23:24.04 | streuner | LoRez: wasn't that a little hard? |
| 23:24.06 | abrotman | concept10: did i win? |
| 23:24.14 | sward | !msg the bot |
| 23:24.15 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood |
| 23:24.15 | concept10 | abrotman: Yes. |
| 23:24.16 | LightVision | !seen LightVision |
| 23:24.17 | dpkg | lightvision is currently on #debian (2h 39m 4s). Has said a total of 1874 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 23:24.21 | LoRez_ | streuner: for spam? not really. |
| 23:24.30 | peterS | !stupid bot tricks |
| 23:24.30 | dpkg | Watching someone play with the bots gets old pretty fast. If you really *must* do it, don't do it here. Use /msg. /join #debian-bots and play there |
| 23:24.43 | magyar | why is the hard drive led is constantley on when using debian on IHC7 ? |
| 23:24.52 | LightVision | !hug peterS |
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| 23:25.17 | nimak | everyone on this channel really seems to like the bot |
| 23:25.19 | abrotman | whitehorse1: so you want newer udev .. but that requires a newer kernel ? |
| 23:25.23 | peterS | nimak: you started it |
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| 23:25.30 | peterS | so don't act all innocent |
| 23:25.31 | whitehorse1 | abrotman not exactly, |
| 23:25.37 | nimak | at other times as well |
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| 23:25.39 | abrotman | i guess i did .. :( |
| 23:25.42 | abrotman | thomas_adam! |
| 23:25.50 | abrotman | damn it .. that's the first time he's been here in weeks |
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| 23:25.52 | andy_ | Hi Im in the process of building the 2.6.13 kernel when it is done, do I need to get new module-init-tools initrd-tools procps? |
| 23:25.53 | peterS | abrotman: your usage was legitimate, the topic actually came up |
| 23:25.53 | interbird | LightVision: Don't drink before driving and don't eat before flying... |
| 23:25.58 | eeyore- | magyar: some process is probably using it ... what have you got running? |
| 23:26.00 | _quik | I'm trying to work out how to share some stuff on the network for mac os x, are there any docs that I should be reading? |
| 23:26.08 | peterS | abrotman: so I don't consider you to have been the instigator. even though you obviously gave everyone ideas |
| 23:26.19 | abrotman | peterS: i'm an evil bastard! |
| 23:26.41 | abrotman | _quik: what kind of network file systems can OSX access ? |
| 23:26.49 | eeyore- | abrotman: neener! |
| 23:26.49 | concept10 | abrotman: That's true (sometimes) |
| 23:26.53 | abrotman | whitehorse1: i'm confused ? |
| 23:27.03 | abrotman | concept10: iirc .. i've helped you many times :) |
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| 23:27.12 | _quik | abrotman, it can handle samba (smb/cifs) but I've so far had trouble in getting access... |
| 23:27.13 | interbird | andy_: Depends on how you built the kernel, plain or debian way |
| 23:27.13 | concept10 | abrotman: Yes you have... |
| 23:27.14 | resiak | _quik: You'll want to read up on nfs, samba. |
| 23:27.14 | whitehorse1 | abrotman (hal is broken because its dependency on) the latest udev requires a kernel =>2.6.11. I use 2.6.8 and 2.6.12 is also in etch. But the broken-ness isn't listed in the brkn deps section of the ftp-master site nor has 2.6.8 been remved from etch |
| 23:27.15 | aFlag | why isn't yasm in debian? |
| 23:27.35 | peterS | abrotman: I wonder if anyone has a q:a ratio near 1. it seems to me most people's ratios are either way above 1 or way below |
| 23:27.36 | azeem | what is yasm? |
| 23:27.36 | eeyore- | whitehorse1: so, why can't you upgrade to later kernel? |
| 23:27.37 | andy_ | interbird: Im following http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ |
| 23:27.37 | resiak | aFlag: Is it Free? Do you feel like packaging it? What does it do? How should we know ? |
| 23:27.37 | concept10 | abrotman: And you will continue to help me and flame me sometimes :) |
| 23:27.44 | abrotman | whitehorse1: because not everyone uses udev |
| 23:27.46 | _quik | also, I have a usb pen drive, how do I mount it? |
| 23:27.52 | abrotman | whitehorse1: so not everyone is required to upgrade ... |
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| 23:27.59 | abrotman | !tell _quik about usbstorage |
| 23:28.03 | LightVision | interbird: and dont sleep before death |
| 23:28.04 | abrotman | !tell _quik about usb-storage |
| 23:28.19 | andy_ | interbird: so I don't know if this is condidered the debian way? |
| 23:28.27 | aFlag | resiak, it's has bsd license |
| 23:28.28 | resiak | abrotman: Aliased the two. |
| 23:28.33 | aFlag | it's a nasm rewrite |
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| 23:28.38 | abrotman | peterS: but how owuld you know? .. i see some people come in to get a question answered .. and stick around an answer |
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| 23:28.43 | abrotman | resiak: yay |
| 23:28.53 | aFlag | i thought maybe there was a reason besides nobody was packing it |
| 23:29.00 | resiak | aFlag: So why not package it yourself and become a DD, and why would we want it? |
| 23:29.00 | peterS | abrotman: a few people do. I haven't seen many. |
| 23:29.11 | interbird | LightVision: I know, death is realy the awakenin' :-) |
| 23:29.11 | abrotman | peterS: there was .. uhm .. one earlier today :) |
| 23:29.23 | abrotman | peterS: and some have been trying .. though doing a poor job :) |
| 23:29.25 | interbird | andy_: Checking the page... |
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| 23:29.38 | peterS | abrotman: yeah, question to *useful* answer ratio is perhaps interesting as well |
| 23:29.44 | whitehorse1 | eeyore- I can upgrade the kernel; I'd rather not have to since I'll need to compile kernel modules *g*, but I was more wondering about the broken deps factor not being listed in the relevant areas & if it should be |
| 23:29.45 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:29.47 | happy_broccoli | how can i set my server to the right time according to daylight savings |
| 23:29.56 | abrotman | whitehorse1: it's nto broken |
| 23:30.03 | peterS | abrotman: it's true, now that you mention it - a lot of n00bs try to be helpful when they get good answers, but ... it doesn't always work out so well (: |
| 23:30.14 | abrotman | whitehorse1: the new udev packages .. require a newer package .. either upgrade your kernel and udev .. or stagnate |
| 23:30.14 | Guerin | happy_broccoli: tzconfig - but all server should run on UTC |
| 23:30.25 | aFlag | resiak, i don't know i haven't tried it yet, i noticed it doesn't have a debian package and it seem like a big project so i came to ask here if there was some special reason |
| 23:30.28 | abrotman | peterS: i can think of a few .. some recently .. |
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| 23:30.36 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: base-config |
| 23:30.42 | abrotman | or tzconfig |
| 23:30.45 | azeem | aFlag: you can browse http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, maybe you can find it mentioned there |
| 23:30.55 | \malex\ | what are these Tags in the Packages files? I can't seem to find any info about them on the web or in apt docs. Do any tools specifically use them? |
| 23:31.05 | nimak | ;ntpdate time.nist.gov' is usefull |
| 23:31.06 | jmg | hmm |
| 23:31.06 | peterS | \malex\: the debtags package does |
| 23:31.10 | aFlag | azeem, thanks, i'll |
| 23:31.13 | abrotman | \malex\: change your nick .. and it's for debtags |
| 23:31.26 | \malex\ | ah, thanks, peterS and abrotman |
| 23:31.30 | abrotman | \malex\: http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 23:31.31 | peterS | \malex\: in fact 'apt-cache search debtags' shows several packages that use that stuff |
| 23:31.32 | whitehorse1 | abrotman Is hal (hardware abstraction layer) not a core mandatory debian package then? |
| 23:31.37 | abrotman | nimak: use pool.ntp.org |
| 23:31.38 | malex | \malex\: Change your nick please. |
| 23:31.41 | resiak | whitehorse1: No. Why would it be? |
| 23:31.45 | abrotman | whitehorse1: no .. it's not |
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| 23:31.53 | \malex\ | malex: i'll part instead :) |
| 23:32.01 | abrotman | whitehorse1: not everyone uses udev .. gnome does .. but i'm not sure KDE requires it |
| 23:32.04 | interbird | andy_: Yes seems it is and I must admit I'm not to familiair with it (yet), I compile, distribute the modules and manually modify grub. |
| 23:32.04 | \malex\ | thanks folks |
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| 23:32.11 | resiak | abrotman: Gnome doesn't require it either. |
| 23:32.19 | Guerin | whitehorse1: X isn't core - why on earth would hal be |
| 23:32.19 | Guerin | ? |
| 23:32.20 | abrotman | resiak: the metapackage gnome does |
| 23:32.22 | interbird | andy_: Can't help you here, sorry. |
| 23:32.23 | resiak | abrotman: Point. |
| 23:32.43 | abrotman | i get lots of points! |
| 23:32.48 | andy_ | interbird: can you suggest a better howto, or the plain way howto |
| 23:32.50 | peterS | abrotman++ |
| 23:32.58 | peterS | !abrotman++ # also |
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| 23:33.04 | abrotman | doh! |
| 23:33.11 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: its still 1 hour ahead, its not accounting for daylight savings |
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| 23:33.30 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: is it set to UTC or your local time ? |
| 23:33.40 | smo | hi |
| 23:33.48 | whitehorse1 | resiak Oh. I'd thought the (udev requiring) hal was vital for managing the database of the hardware config so all the *dm/kde/xorg/application etc settings could reference it |
| 23:33.52 | smo | what do i need to send mail from php thru my isp |
| 23:33.55 | smo | ?? |
| 23:34.06 | abrotman | whitehorse1: not even close :) |
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| 23:34.16 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: date shows MDT |
| 23:34.18 | abrotman | whitehorse1: and some people avoid udev at all cost |
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| 23:34.23 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: mountain ? |
| 23:34.25 | peterS | smo: invoke /usr/sbin/sendmail directly, perhaps? |
| 23:34.26 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: yes |
| 23:34.27 | interbird | andy_: Have you compiled yet ? |
| 23:34.33 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: and you're C or P ? |
| 23:34.52 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: $LANG ?? |
| 23:34.59 | whitehorse1 | abrotman how would I determine how removing hal would affect me, my configuration? prior to removing it I mean |
| 23:35.01 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: no .. CDT or PDT :) |
| 23:35.08 | abrotman | whitehorse1: try to remove it :) |
| 23:35.23 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: im in mdt, and the clock is an hour ahead. does that answer it |
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| 23:35.35 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: and running ntpdate does what ? |
| 23:35.40 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: keeps same time |
| 23:35.42 | jmg | hmm |
| 23:35.43 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: against pool.ntp.org |
| 23:35.44 | whitehorse1 | I'm worried :) machine's fine other than that broken package; which prevents installing other updates. |
| 23:35.49 | smo | no link in mysql conf for mail software?? |
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| 23:35.51 | andy_ | interbird: no it just stopped with an glibc error of some sort, not sure what is up. I'll read on. Thanks for your help. |
| 23:35.52 | jmg | why is it so hard to make a deb from a binary installation |
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| 23:36.08 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: grep UTC /etc/default/rcS |
| 23:36.27 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: cat /etc/timezone |
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| 23:36.57 | sward | jmg: I don't know, why is it? Have you tried checkinstall? |
| 23:37.08 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: America/Denver |
| 23:37.16 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: and the UTC thing ? |
| 23:37.24 | interbird | andy_: make help inside the kernel-source tree gives you the options on how to build a plain kernel -- luck ! |
| 23:37.34 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: UTC=no |
| 23:37.43 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: show me the output from `date` |
| 23:37.51 | happy_broccoli | Mon Sep 19 18:34:29 MDT 2005 |
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| 23:38.19 | abrotman | does denver do Daylight savings ? |
| 23:38.24 | andy_ | interbird: hey thanks I'll give that a try that :-) |
| 23:38.27 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: yes |
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| 23:38.34 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: `hwclock` says what ? |
| 23:39.18 | _quik | which of nfs and smb is the way to go for OSX sharing? |
| 23:39.26 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: Mon 19 Sep 2005 06:38:11 PM MDT -0.747868 seconds |
| 23:39.27 | abrotman | _quik: ask #osx which is easier |
| 23:39.36 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: that's not right :) |
| 23:39.42 | _quik | or, is it fairly easy/quick to setup an ftp account to a directory? |
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| 23:39.53 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: 06 pm is 18 |
| 23:40.02 | liable | Lilldude: you need to change your nick first.. |
| 23:40.05 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: isn't it 540 there? |
| 23:40.07 | interbird | andy_: Ok, the Debian way is almost the same but more integrating, google at: "debian kernel" |
| 23:40.10 | HAMM3R | How can i get samba to edit /var/www? |
| 23:40.10 | whitehorse1 | abrotman hal's needed (well suggested strongly rather) by kdebase-kio-plugins plus a coupla others eg gnome volume mngr |
| 23:40.15 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: yes. but this system shows 640 |
| 23:40.19 | abrotman | whitehorse1: seems right |
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| 23:40.26 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: but even your hardware clock is wrong |
| 23:40.27 | nkuttler | HAMM3R: what do you mean? |
| 23:40.38 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: ok? shouldnt ntp fix that ? |
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| 23:40.47 | HAMM3R | I cant seem to get samba to be able to view the /var/ww directory |
| 23:40.50 | abrotman | hwclock .. don't think so .. let me see if there's an option |
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| 23:41.03 | interbird | HAMM3R: You have an editor called samba ? |
| 23:41.04 | HAMM3R | It can only view the /home directories of the users i am logged in as |
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| 23:41.24 | HAMM3R | No, samba the network utility |
| 23:41.32 | ircops | woohoo... 2.6.13.2 :D |
| 23:41.32 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: if you run `ntpdate pool.ntp.org` .. how far does it say you're off ? |
| 23:41.40 | nkuttler | HAMM3R: apt-get install samba-doc |
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| 23:41.51 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: /var/ww is probably not readable by the the connected user |
| 23:41.57 | interbird | HAMM3R: You are logged-in already as multiple users ? |
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| 23:42.34 | abrotman | !tell happybunny about root |
| 23:42.34 | interbird | HAMM3R: You should make shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
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| 23:43.43 | interbird | !tell HAMM3R about samba |
| 23:43.55 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: ? |
| 23:44.00 | beardy | whitehorse1: Ok, a lot on my mind lately, probably why I don't remember our previous conversation. |
| 23:44.11 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: i think my router is blocking it. i dont have passwd. will have to try tomorrow |
| 23:44.16 | abrotman | beardy: blame the beer .. always works for me |
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| 23:44.27 | happyb | bunny |
| 23:44.28 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: you're saying you can't update the clock via ntp ? |
| 23:44.35 | beardy | abrotman: Heh, yeah, actually there was a lot of that involved too :) |
| 23:44.42 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:44.51 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: right. but /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart didnt give me an error. only running the command directly |
| 23:44.53 | happyb | apt-get upgrade has hal udev conflicts |
| 23:44.56 | _quik | is there a good kde gui tool for setup of ftpd-ssl? |
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| 23:45.25 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: try .. uhm .. `ntpdate 128.118.25.3` |
| 23:45.28 | abrotman | i think that's right |
| 23:45.35 | happyb | ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 23:45.43 | abrotman | happyb: we tried that .. thanks |
| 23:45.58 | Lilldude_ | abort man i geting helps thanks |
| 23:46.02 | abrotman | Lilldude_: yay |
| 23:46.09 | happyb | sorry |
| 23:46.35 | interbird | HAMM3R: Maybe SWAT or WebMin are also of use to you, but take care, SWAT removes quotes OR google for a well-crafted smb.conf |
| 23:46.39 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: same error. i think its the router |
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| 23:46.41 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: if you can't get that either .. you can either try to set the clock in the bios(which doesn't seem right) or wait to get your NTP traffic .. approved or whatever :) |
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| 23:47.10 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: you don't have a local NTP server on your network ? |
| 23:47.11 | whitehorse1 | Is this the correct package to install to upgrade my kernel from (uname-r) 2.6.8-2-386 please? Package 'linux-image-2.6.12-1-686' "Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines". It's running on a Pentium 4, the installer installed the 386 version of 2.6.8 for me tho |
| 23:47.21 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: no... |
| 23:47.26 | abrotman | whitehorse1: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:47.30 | Guerin | whitehorse1: yes |
| 23:47.31 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: bummer |
| 23:47.43 | magyar | eeyore-: no process is running it just always stays on |
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| 23:47.44 | streuner | hm |
| 23:47.53 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: can i telnet over udp ? |
| 23:47.58 | abrotman | oh shit .. i almost forgot to eat :) |
| 23:48.02 | whitehorse1 | thnx |
| 23:48.05 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: uhm .. not that i know of |
| 23:48.22 | Zrin | how can i check (remotely) if a nic is working in 10 Mbps or 100 Mbps mode? |
| 23:48.28 | happy_broccoli | abrotman: could i try nmap -P or netcat ? |
| 23:48.46 | beardy | whitehorse1: Yes, as you see, it's for "P4" and if you are running a Pentium 4, that's the one you should use. |
| 23:48.47 | Guerin | Zrin: ssh and mii-tool? |
| 23:48.52 | eeyore- | magyar: did you mount the drive with "noatime"? |
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| 23:48.58 | Guerin | Zrin: or try to suck some data over it and measure the rate? |
| 23:48.59 | Zrin | Guerin: mii? |
| 23:49.07 | interbird | happy_broccoli: Nope, telnet is session oriented IFAIK |
| 23:49.08 | eeyore- | magyar: updating atime is one reason a drive stays accessed |
| 23:49.10 | Guerin | Zrin: you can read! |
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| 23:49.18 | HAMM3R | sorry about that, my internet died |
| 23:49.20 | Zrin | Guerin: yes, i can :-)) |
| 23:49.33 | Guerin | reading is underrated :) |
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| 23:49.34 | liable | double chin? |
| 23:49.39 | HAMM3R | Did anyone say anything to be after I posted that link? |
| 23:49.44 | HAMM3R | to me* |
| 23:49.54 | interbird | HAMM3R: Maybe SWAT or WebMin are also of use to you, but take care, SWAT removes quotes OR google for a well-crafted smb.conf |
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| 23:50.21 | abrotman | happy_broccoli: you can .. but it's not my server :) |
| 23:50.28 | magyar | eeyore-: its the default debian install, but these problems only occure when using SATA in AHCI mode |
| 23:50.47 | beardy | !swat |
| 23:50.47 | dpkg | hmm... swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with |
| 23:50.49 | matiu | which chanel is best to get help building debian packages? |
| 23:50.50 | beardy | !webmin |
| 23:50.50 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 23:50.54 | eeyore- | magyar: mount the affected partitions with "noatime" and see if that goes away, first :-) |
| 23:51.16 | beardy | matiu: Perhaps this one, if there is a reason for you to build the package. |
| 23:51.31 | magyar | eeyore-: you mean "/" "swap" /"home"? |
| 23:51.41 | matiu | beardy, awsome. I'm building a debian package for exelearning.org |
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| 23:51.52 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: samba "becomes" the user that's connected to it, so if the user has no access to the directory, it won't be readable ... |
| 23:52.07 | beardy | matiu: Just ask the question and perhaps someone can answer it. |
| 23:52.08 | matiu | beardy, I have this problem in that we depend on a version of twisted python that is not yet released |
| 23:52.12 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: so, if your /var/www is www-data:www-data and 750, then only members of www-data group can read, obviously |
| 23:52.19 | eeyore- | magyar: / and /home |
| 23:52.29 | eeyore- | magyar: how much memory do you have? (are you swapping constantly?) |
| 23:52.33 | magyar | eeyore-: thnks will try |
| 23:52.37 | beardy | matiu: Don't adress it to me, ask the entire channel. |
| 23:52.47 | whitehorse1 | Thanks. :) apt-get @~~"&* won't let me install the newer 2.6.12 kernel though since udev insists on trying to install & requires 2.6.12. Pesky loop. Is the fix I need to do 'pin' my current version of udev until I install the new kernel? |
| 23:52.48 | matiu | What's the best solution: make my own twisted package? include a patch that modifies the installed twisted |
| 23:52.51 | magyar | eeyore-: i got 1 GB of DDR2 |
| 23:53.02 | magyar | and 160 GB HD sapce |
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| 23:53.06 | beardy | matiu: /msg dpkg ask, /msg dpkg smart questions if you are unsure on how to do it best |
| 23:53.09 | matiu | I know I can't change other packages files. But that's what I need to do... |
| 23:53.10 | eeyore- | twisted? |
| 23:53.13 | sward | matiu: Twisted 2 is in Etch, if that's what you mean |
| 23:53.15 | abrotman | whitehorse1: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 does .. not work ? |
| 23:53.43 | sward | matiu: I haven't heard anything of a Twisted 3 yet.. |
| 23:53.53 | whitehorse1 | abrotman: It does not. |
| 23:53.55 | interbird | HAMM3R: That's true what eeyore says, but still those shares are visible, just not writable. |
| 23:53.59 | matiu | I need twisted 2 with an extra patch of about 8 lines or so |
| 23:54.05 | abrotman | whitehorse1: can you paste the error somewhere ? |
| 23:54.07 | liable | whitehorse1: put udev on hold. |
| 23:54.19 | Lilldude_ | liable |
| 23:54.26 | eeyore- | interbird: i think it's just plain old unix permissions problem |
| 23:54.28 | matiu | the patch is backward compatible |
| 23:54.30 | HAMM3R | So how might I edit the primissions/users/groups to make samba be able to edit /var/www ? |
| 23:54.35 | eeyore- | interbird: i see no reason to think otherwise, at this time |
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| 23:54.53 | liable | Lilldude_: |
| 23:54.53 | matiu | for me the best solution is that when you install exe.deb, it patches your twisted for you, but this is illegal in debian |
| 23:55.05 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: add the user in question to www-data group, chmod -R g+ws /var/www |
| 23:55.10 | interbird | eeyore-: My guess is he hasn't defined any shares |
| 23:55.13 | matiu | sp my qwuestion is, what else can I do? |
| 23:55.16 | steveO_Office | help if you can please... I have 2 harddrives 1 40g and 1 300g layed out as follows 40g= /boot - / - /var - office and 300g as /home set up for the users everything goes fine up to the point of installing the base system when im get base system failed. If I use one 1 harddrive all is well what am I needing to do to get this to work? |
| 23:55.27 | beardy | matiu: what is exe.deb? |
| 23:55.29 | whitehorse1 | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/368562 |
| 23:55.30 | abrotman | liable: is udev broken ? |
| 23:55.31 | sward | matiu: Is it possible to use a wrapper module in front of Twisted? |
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| 23:55.40 | matiu | That's the package that I'm making |
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| 23:55.45 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: or, you can force the share to be accessed (read/write) under a specific uid:gid |
| 23:55.47 | matiu | that depends on twisted 2+patch |
| 23:55.48 | abrotman | !info udev etch |
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| 23:55.49 | interbird | eeyore-: Samba always has the "homes" share. |
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| 23:55.54 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.068-2 (etch), Packaged size: 302 kB, Installed size: 948 kB |
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| 23:56.01 | abrotman | whitehorse1: did you apt-get update first ? |
| 23:56.06 | liable | abrotman: theres a bstard dependancy thing going with it, 2.6.12 and hal atm. |
| 23:56.07 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: you have many options |
| 23:56.14 | whitehorse1 | abrotman: yep definitely |
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| 23:56.23 | abrotman | liable: check his error .. it seems his package list isn't up to date |
| 23:56.30 | whitehorse1 | liable that's the thang affecting me |
| 23:56.30 | liable | oh |
| 23:56.34 | matiu | sward, thank's that's a good idea, I could include our own twisted source tree inside the site-packages/exe/twisted |
| 23:56.39 | abrotman | liable: or so i guess anyways |
| 23:56.41 | whitehorse1 | liable will pinning udev assist me then? |
| 23:56.48 | abrotman | !hold |
| 23:56.48 | dpkg | methinks hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
| 23:56.49 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: you can even use acl and give write permissions to those directories, without changning directory modes or adding users to www-data, but this is more advanced |
| 23:56.54 | Lilldude_ | laible that clam av is intext need it gui and updated |
| 23:57.00 | interbird | eeyore-: Even with 0000 on the *ux side a share is visible to my experience, just not writable... |
| 23:57.08 | dotfile | I think I setup X to use 1024x768 but it is in 800x600 and that is the only option in the gnome control pannel. How should I fix this? |
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| 23:57.17 | eeyore- | interbird: samba honors the native permissions system |
| 23:57.18 | matiu | Perhaps if I contact the maintainer of twisted package and ask him to include the patch |
| 23:57.21 | LaptopZZ | where do I broken pacakges? |
| 23:57.26 | Lilldude_ | liable can you help me with that |
| 23:57.26 | sward | matiu: Or you could arrange it so your twisted can be installed in parallel, probably under a different name |
| 23:57.26 | matiu | Anyother ideas appreciated... |
| 23:57.31 | LaptopZZ | *report |
| 23:57.31 | HAMM3R | How can I check what user/group a directory is owned by? |
| 23:57.32 | sward | matiu: That's a good idea |
| 23:57.34 | eeyore- | interbird: so, i don't see a problem :) |
| 23:57.36 | abrotman | liable: you've a fan! |
| 23:57.41 | beardy | dotfile: Ctrl-Alt-Num+ |
| 23:57.41 | liable | whitehorse1: try putting it on hold and see how you go. |
| 23:57.43 | eeyore- | HAMM3R: ls -l <path> |
| 23:57.46 | Lilldude_ | liable cant pm you cause reg not working |
| 23:57.49 | liable | abrotman: i know :P |
| 23:57.55 | interbird | eeyore-: I know, and I am mistaken -- I guess. |
| 23:57.55 | sward | matiu: (asking Twisted upstream, that is) |
| 23:57.58 | matiu | sward, yeah, we thought about parallel twisted but that means we have to change all the project source code just for debian :( |
| 23:58.06 | liable | Lilldude_: change your nick to jlil, then try and register.. |
| 23:58.08 | LaptopZZ | Where can I report a broken package in unstable? |
| 23:58.19 | sward | mathieu: s/twisted/funky-twisted/g |
| 23:58.23 | sward | matiu: ^^ |
| 23:58.23 | liable | Lilldude_: i know nothing of clamav.. |
| 23:58.24 | streuner | LaptopZZ: KDE? |
| 23:58.25 | eeyore- | interbird: the *file* might be visible |
| 23:58.25 | matiu | In gentoo they applied the patch already to twisted |
| 23:58.30 | whitehorse1 | liable ty. do I need to report the hal~udev~2.6.12 thang anywhere or is it already down as a known issue |
| 23:58.31 | Lilldude_ | liable stil won work in freenode room with admin |
| 23:58.32 | eeyore- | interbird: you're talking about different things |
| 23:58.35 | HAMM3R | ls -l /var : drwxr-xr-x 4 hamm3r hamm3r 4096 2005-09-18 03:54 www |
| 23:58.35 | LaptopZZ | streuner, scim-tables |
| 23:58.45 | abrotman | you're |
| 23:58.47 | HAMM3R | it seems that directory is owned by hamm3r :o |
| 23:58.49 | sward | matiu: What does the patch do? |
| 23:58.50 | eeyore- | interbird: it's the permission of *the directory* that will control whether you can "list" the directory or not |
| 23:59.06 | Lilldude_ | laible help with clam av update and gui it was 89 pack dl and o clock is gone |
| 23:59.07 | HAMM3R | However when i log on to samba as hamm3r, I can see /var/www there |
| 23:59.10 | abrotman | whitehorse1: i'm sure it's known if that's what's going on . many people run etch/testing |
| 23:59.10 | liable | Lilldude_: change your nick! |
| 23:59.12 | HAMM3R | cant see* |
| 23:59.22 | Lilldude_ | tried that laible |
| 23:59.23 | eeyore- | interbird: if the directory itself is +rx, then yeah, the content is visible. however, permissions of individual *files* control whether or not you can read/write/execute them. got it? |
| 23:59.26 | matiu | sward, enables twisted.spread.jelly to save and load new-style classes |
| 23:59.27 | interbird | eeyore-: I am not but some samba stuff really depends or more or less advanced settings in smb.conf |
| 23:59.33 | liable | whitehorse1: read bts for udev.. |
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| 23:59.53 | matiu | sward, I think what I'll do is make a new package called exe-twisted, that conflicts with and provides python2.4-twisted |
| 23:59.55 | sward | matiu: Is there any reason you can think of why upstream would not accept that? |
