| 00:00.00 | WiFiTux | lol, I really can't believe http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| 00:00.05 | xidaux | eeyore-: I don't need a lecture on ARM :) |
| 00:00.10 | eeyore- | cadu: ide-scsi still has to go through emulation layer, don't you think that'll be slower? |
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| 00:00.26 | ThreeM | hmm keeps giving me problems during the install but keeps puting me back into the menu... |
| 00:00.33 | mdh | WiFiTux: you must believe it... its on the internet, it must be true! |
| 00:00.45 | Jacky^ | mdh: thanks |
| 00:00.56 | eeyore- | xidaux: well, when you say something that's so bizarre, it's hard to ignore |
| 00:01.03 | cadu | eeyore-: yeah, but this means something on, say, a pentium 4 or an athlon xp ? i've never used ide-scsi, went directly to ide-cd but i think it isn't that critical...or ? |
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| 00:01.34 | eeyore- | cadu: i've not had any problem with cdrecord dev=ATAPI:... driveropts=burnfree speed=10, so far :-) PIII 800 |
| 00:01.36 | drac | deadcat: Actually, I'm not sure. If you want a guess: Yeah, you need it. |
| 00:01.46 | deadcat | k |
| 00:01.47 | xidaux | eeyore-: That's subjective don't you think ? |
| 00:01.47 | mdh | Jacky^: the shaping must be done on A. |
| 00:02.04 | deadcat | drac: from now on you are the guy i go to for all xfree/xorg help (= |
| 00:02.15 | eeyore- | xidaux: are you an actual person or are you MIT's newest attempt at a conver-a-bot? |
| 00:02.23 | licued | heya so.. |
| 00:02.27 | eeyore- | s/conver-a-bot/converse-a-bot |
| 00:02.28 | drac | deadcat: Scary, i'm still learning too ;-) |
| 00:02.34 | abrotman | eeyore-: My cheese is in your ear! |
| 00:02.38 | licued | what program can rad .PST files (Outlok files) |
| 00:02.45 | abrotman | licued: apt-cache search pst |
| 00:02.51 | eeyore- | licued: Outlook |
| 00:02.57 | licued | well for Linux |
| 00:03.03 | abrotman | licued: apt-cache search pst outlook |
| 00:03.06 | eeyore- | licued: Outlook running VMWare |
| 00:03.06 | abrotman | do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:03.11 | FieldySnuts | !! |
| 00:03.11 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:03.12 | ThreeM | i think i figured out the problem... |
| 00:03.14 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:03.24 | abrotman | lazy users ... suck |
| 00:03.31 | licued | :/ |
| 00:03.35 | licued | I'm not lazy |
| 00:03.42 | WiFiTux | rad? |
| 00:03.44 | licued | thank you though |
| 00:03.48 | licued | I really apprciate it :) |
| 00:04.13 | abrotman | WiFiTux: read |
| 00:04.14 | WiFiTux | licued: maybe evolution? |
| 00:04.19 | licued | nah evo dosen't |
| 00:04.24 | WiFiTux | ah |
| 00:04.30 | licued | but abrotman helped |
| 00:04.34 | WiFiTux | abrotman: rad? read! |
| 00:04.36 | licued | readpst - Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others |
| 00:04.43 | mdh | licued: rm works well with .pst files |
| 00:04.45 | licued | and Evo read mbox |
| 00:04.49 | licued | haha |
| 00:04.55 | licued | I'm not that newb man |
| 00:04.55 | licued | lol |
| 00:05.00 | Jacky^ | mdh: a lot exhausting, thanks a lot :) |
| 00:05.02 | chealer | dondelelcaro: we talked about the BTS's read-only web interface and the fact that it doesn't require registration a while earlier. peterS suggested annoying you. I was wondering where to find info about development perspectives of the BTS and if it would always keep a read-only web interface, and if so why. would there be otherwise a list for the development of the BTS? |
| 00:05.23 | xidaux | eeyore-: ARM-IBM-Motorola-NetBSD-FreeBSD-Linux-Apple-DarwinOS-MacOSX-Tendra/GCC == x86/Windows DEATH. Hulk smash ! Hulk no like ! |
| 00:05.40 | cadu | WiFiTux: ahahah funroll loops |
| 00:05.45 | deadcat | drac: you know the options RENDER and DAMAGE in "Extensions" ? |
| 00:05.47 | WiFiTux | cadu: lol |
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| 00:05.48 | cadu | WiFiTux: those guys really love gentooers |
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| 00:06.00 | xidaux | eeyore-: :)) |
| 00:06.04 | WiFiTux | cadu: did you see the rc.update statement? |
| 00:06.32 | drac | deadcat: Yeah, sure.. those can be left usually undefined cause they get autoloaded if driver supports them |
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| 00:06.53 | shingouz | xidaux: either MIT is getting better or you probably have a social security number ;) |
| 00:07.03 | dondelelcaro | chealer: well, the entire idea behind the read only web interface is 1) it enforces accountability 2) it's much simpler to mirror |
| 00:07.04 | drac | deadcat: in some cases they won't load, like if they are considered highly experimental by some driver |
| 00:07.05 | deadcat | drac: cool. but that wont be useful unless we get xcompmgr and transset in debian though. i think |
| 00:07.19 | xidaux | abrotman: Yeah, I run NetBSD on several handeld devices. Pretty objectively sweet. |
| 00:07.29 | dondelelcaro | chealer: it's not a big deal to make a CGI to mail gateway, and there's nothing stoping anyone from doing that on their own. |
| 00:07.48 | cadu | WiFiTux: going to, first i'm staring at those testimonials |
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| 00:07.54 | cadu | WiFiTux: jebus! |
| 00:07.57 | drac | deadcat: you can check with "xdpyinfo" if they are loaded or not |
| 00:08.03 | WiFiTux | cadu: yeah |
| 00:08.03 | deadcat | k |
| 00:08.09 | dondelelcaro | chealer: in the list of things to fix about the bts it's not terribly high though, because the quality of bug reports submitted by people who can't use the powerfull tools already extant isn't going to be very high. |
| 00:08.13 | WiFiTux | abrotman: did you see the new laptops coming out? |
| 00:08.21 | xidaux | shingouz: That is exactly why I replied in that manner to eeyore. |
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| 00:08.33 | shingouz | xidaux: ;) |
| 00:08.34 | chealer | dondelelcaro: is there a place where I could info such as how do the BTS responsibles explain 1) ? |
| 00:08.41 | dondelelcaro | chealer: I mean, reportbug and bts make modulating bugs almost as simple as it can possibly be made. |
| 00:08.56 | dondelelcaro | chealer: what specifically about #1? |
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| 00:09.48 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I agree that producing bug reports isn't the weakest side of the mail interface, particularly using reportbug |
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| 00:10.35 | chealer | dondelelcaro: about 1), how not accepting input from the web enforces accountability (comparing with a system requiring registration, of course) |
| 00:10.35 | cadu | WiFiTux: i'm really getting a gentoo iso and setting up a virtual machine on VMWare just to see all that control, kkkk |
| 00:10.52 | cadu | WiFiTux: jeez, those freaks |
| 00:10.55 | cadu | !start a distro war |
| 00:10.55 | dpkg | Slackware rocks! |
| 00:11.17 | dondelelcaro | chealer: primarily because everyone who e-mails the bts has a valid e-mail account where they can be mailed at and the changes that they make discussed. |
| 00:11.36 | WiFiTux | cadu: don't waste the time, it will take years in vmware. |
| 00:11.51 | dondelelcaro | chealer: it's not such a direct relationship with someone who submits bugs using a web frontend. [It's also a lot more time consuming to have to register every time you want to submit a bug.] |
| 00:12.26 | deadcat | !start a neucular war |
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| 00:12.41 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a world war |
| 00:12.41 | apt | Pakistan will get turned into a sheet of glass by Iran! |
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| 00:13.17 | deadcat | bots dont understand neucular? is that how bush spells it? or pronounce it? |
| 00:14.08 | chealer | dondelelcaro: hum, I guess you mean the first time you want to submit a bug against debian... |
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| 00:14.48 | chealer | I agree that subscribing to send bugs to small projects can suck, but I send way more than half of my bug reports to debian |
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| 00:15.39 | dondelelcaro | chealer: but regardless, it's still something that someone can implement. It doesn't need any tacit approval from anyone with a debbugs hat. |
| 00:15.41 | chealer | dondelelcaro: also, it's not like requiring a valid e-mail account for registration was something rare |
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| 00:16.06 | dondelelcaro | chealer: *shrug* You've got everything you need to implement such a thing; have at it. |
| 00:16.31 | kerneld | Hmm is xmodem disables in debian minicom? I get 'failure to execute protocol' which is introduced by a debian patch. |
| 00:16.35 | depp | can I trottle down a sata 133 to 100 and set the cylinders usw right in the kernel to joke my mainboard please |
| 00:16.38 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: my friend and i plan to volunteer at the debian booth on thur. but we not sure yet. can we tell you on tue the 9th? |
| 00:17.00 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: just sign up for the time slots that you'll be available, or just come and hang out |
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| 00:17.45 | depp | what |
| 00:18.08 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ok. because last time i tried to hang out but didnt feel i was welcomed. )= so i walked away.. wheeping like a bitch |
| 00:18.38 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* the booth always gets busy, and I never really knows who will actually be there |
| 00:18.43 | chealer | dondelelcaro: you mean implement it as a "third-party" service, right? |
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| 00:20.19 | furrywolf | what extension do you get if you install mozilla-tabextensions? |
| 00:20.20 | dondelelcaro | chealer: yes |
| 00:20.31 | furrywolf | trying to find it on the firefox site... |
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| 00:21.42 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I guess that means it's not already done as far as you know? |
| 00:22.05 | Tomm174 | Is this a good place to ask for help when lilo gets as far as "LI" ?? |
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| 00:22.26 | theeil | i have the net install cd and a router in the house, do i have to do anything special to get the internet up before installing? |
| 00:23.08 | cwood | theeil: If your router will give you a dhcp address and get you on to the internet for any other machine, you're fine... |
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| 00:23.26 | cwood | Question: newraff/newsamosa, they moved yet? :) |
| 00:24.06 | cwood | I ask since the /topic seems to be GMT. |
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| 00:24.32 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I have to go and will think about that. thanks for your answeres |
| 00:25.04 | dondelelcaro | chealer: it's not done; no. |
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| 00:27.09 | Tomm174 | My system just quit & now won't boot. I've booted superrescue, presume I really need to run lilo, but not sure how to proceed.. |
| 00:27.10 | mdh | what happened to the old hosting for those servers? |
| 00:27.24 | bob2 | above.net decided they couldn't do it anymore |
| 00:27.45 | mdh | !li |
| 00:27.45 | dpkg | if 'LI' is printed when the system is booted, it means that your drive is probably too large (OR you simply forgot to run 'lilo'). There is a Large-disk-mini-howto. Read it.. Boot the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf and add 'lba32' then try again., or (if drive geometry has changed) try booting from the rescue disk, mounting /, and rerunning lilo. Or you could try grub instead. :) Lithium, or Liechtenstein. |
| 00:27.47 | deadcat | http://www.craigslist.org/eby/sys/86895444.html guess what i have inside the basestation? (= |
| 00:27.50 | Tomm174 | anyone familiar w. restoring system to bootability? |
| 00:28.27 | deadcat | Tomm174: sure. eveyone has their way of doing it. |
| 00:28.43 | mdh | bob2: I'm looking for some kind of conspiracy angle here... help me out ;) |
| 00:28.49 | bob2 | haha |
| 00:29.04 | fortysixand2 | microsoft and sco....etc etc |
| 00:29.04 | bob2 | but that was becase MS/SCO/USA bought them out? |
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| 00:29.41 | Tomm174 | thx dpkg - the system used to boot fine, nothing changed that I know of - I saw somewhere that just writing more to the disk could cause it to go past 1024 cyl |
| 00:29.43 | FieldySnuts | troll |
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| 00:30.29 | EfaistOs | I have an external HD but it doesnt mount automatically when i plug it ... |
| 00:30.51 | dondelelcaro | EfaistOs: it won't; you need to mount it manually. |
| 00:30.53 | licued | duh? lol |
| 00:30.56 | theeil | cwood: it uses adsl, does that matter? |
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| 00:31.05 | mdh | EfaistOs: I have a gf and she doesn't mount automatically when I touch her either |
| 00:31.17 | licued | lol! :) |
| 00:31.22 | EfaistOs | :p |
| 00:31.24 | fortysixand2 | nice |
| 00:31.34 | cwood | theeil: It matters more that it provides a dhcp server to the inside of your network, which unless you have to manually configure networking for your other computers, it probably does. |
| 00:31.46 | EfaistOs | I have hotplug and others things like this but nothing help ... |
| 00:31.59 | fortysixand2 | is it in /etc/fstab? |
| 00:32.00 | pipeline | EfaistOs: Install gnome-volume-manager, perhaps? |
| 00:32.03 | theeil | cwood: k thanks |
| 00:32.13 | pipeline | EfaistOs: That, or do things the old way and manually configure an automount daemon. |
| 00:32.21 | licued | pipeline , does that mount stuff automaticly? |
| 00:32.37 | pipeline | licued, EfaistOs : Yes. gnome-volume-manager is a daemon that should "just work" in a magical fashion if you're using udev. |
| 00:32.57 | licued | I never used udev so :P |
| 00:33.04 | licued | but kinda like a Window/Mac type deal |
| 00:33.05 | Tomm174 | dpkg - running lilo - I'm not on my original system - having bootd frm CD - do I just need to tell it to use my /etc/lilo.conf from the HD ? |
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| 00:33.34 | pipeline | licued: udev drives me up the wall, so I can't use gnome-volume-manager. It really was pretty cool to have things work perfectly without my having to configure anything. Sort of an auto automount :P |
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| 00:34.26 | EfaistOs | pipeline, the two are already installed ... |
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| 00:35.21 | pipeline | EfaistOs: Well, curses, it should "just work" when you plug it in. Ah, well. |
| 00:36.17 | DoppelGanger | #windows it just works, maybe |
| 00:36.42 | ryan` | heh |
| 00:37.04 | pipeline | EfaistOs: Is gnome-volume-manager actually running, pray tell? |
| 00:37.05 | resiak | EfaistOs: adduser youruser plugdev; log out; log in; make sure gnome-volume-manager is running. |
| 00:37.31 | pipeline | I hate the name "gnome-volume-manager", since it has precious little to do with gnome. |
| 00:37.41 | GregM | Tomm174:lilo -v -r |
| 00:37.42 | pipeline | Why didn't they call it dbus-vold or linux-vold or something? |
| 00:38.15 | Tomm174 | Yup thought so - my lilo.conf says "lba32" |
| 00:38.41 | resiak | pipeline: There are other things that do the same that don't have gnome in their name. It _does_ have to do with Gnome, because it has all kinds of nice Nautilus tie-ins. Oh, and I know it's just a frontend to p{,u}mount. |
| 00:38.49 | Tomm174 | thx greg |
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| 00:39.03 | pipeline | resiak: The nautilus tie-ins are hacked together and based on dbus. |
| 00:39.19 | resiak | pipeline: I'm aware of that, but they are there. |
| 00:39.24 | pipeline | resiak: dbus practically requires libxml2, yes, but libxml2 is hardly gnome-specific either. |
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| 00:39.33 | pipeline | resiak: Hell, Solaris includes libxml2 in the core distribution :P |
| 00:39.57 | resiak | pipeline: You're still not proving anything ;) |
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| 00:43.01 | mdh | pipeline: maybe its a marketing thing... if something with "gnome" in its name is actually useful, people might start using it |
| 00:43.33 | mwilson | Ok, I use vim too much... I just tried to use :q to exit a shell... |
| 00:43.45 | mdh | mwilson: works for me :) |
| 00:43.48 | deadcat | mwilson: thats too much |
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| 00:43.53 | deadcat | mdh: aliased? |
| 00:44.02 | mdh | deadcat: zsh keybind |
| 00:44.03 | aramanth | mwilson, mmm a vi shell to figth the emacs os? |
| 00:44.11 | deadcat | mdh: oh girl (= |
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| 00:45.24 | resiak | deadcat: You think that deadcat is the only one ? |
| 00:45.29 | resiak | erm |
| 00:45.32 | resiak | deadcat: You think that mdh is the only one ? |
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| 00:46.09 | deadcat | resiak: i bet most people do it. but i KNOW when i am in a shell or vi (= |
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| 00:46.40 | resiak | deadcat: Hell, my bot's callpunct is : ;) |
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| 00:48.45 | mdh | deadcat: its just for the consistency. If I want the shell to exit and typed :q because I've just had a long hacking session and my brain is still in vi mode, well it can go ahead and exit rather than whining about not finding some command called ":q" |
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| 00:49.49 | deadcat | mdh: true. i know what you mean. |
| 00:50.10 | resiak | mdh: Have you ever used Solaris? They have the interesting "feature" there where if you press ^D you are informed "Use 'exit' to leave the shell." If you try againg four more times it gives up and just exits. |
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| 00:50.41 | deadcat | resiak: bash can do that. |
| 00:50.41 | mdh | resiak: yes, though I didn't know about the 4 times thing... |
| 00:51.02 | resiak | deadcat: Right, and that's the default on Solaris. |
| 00:51.02 | deadcat | default is 3. i have IGNOREEOF=1 |
| 00:51.09 | deadcat | oh |
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| 00:51.22 | resiak | What's the point? |
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| 00:51.49 | mdh | my next goal is to keep zsh in vi readline mode |
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| 00:52.19 | mdh | having a modal shell tends to irritate me when I forget about it |
| 00:52.54 | deadcat | bash is bugging me lately on version 3. i set -o vi, but when i hit ESC then / to reverse search my history, the damn prompt gets screwed. i know this only happen when my prompt has color. )= |
| 00:53.09 | resiak | zsh! |
| 00:53.22 | resiak | (Sadly zsh doesn't do UTF-8, which is a Bad Thing.) |
| 00:53.22 | sunbin | can i change the refresh frequency |
| 00:53.27 | resiak | !drxx sunbin |
| 00:53.28 | dpkg | sunbin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 00:53.28 | deadcat | i prefer bash because its on all linux box. zsh ya. but you would have to install it |
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| 00:54.37 | resiak | I don't see that as a problem... I mean, I don't have my own dotfiles on any of the machines that I use in passing, so for all intents and purposes a shell's a shell. |
| 00:55.04 | EfaistOs | I found why it doesnt load my external hd, it's because udev is not started in sid if we dont have a 2.6.12 kernel |
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| 00:55.31 | deadcat | whats up with udev anyway? never heard of it untill recently |
| 00:55.33 | mdh | oh, somebody didn't read the big freaking huge message you get when you install udev in sid |
| 00:55.58 | mdh | !udev |
| 00:55.58 | dpkg | well, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
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| 00:56.27 | deadcat | mdh: i assume i dont have that on my box right? |
| 00:56.43 | mdh | deadcat: you need a 2.6 kernel with hotplug support |
| 00:56.55 | mdh | and its not default in Debian yet |
| 00:57.13 | deadcat | mdh: ah. i have 2.6 and hotplug but no udev. |
| 00:57.17 | mwilson | mdh: Now, now, he's an unstable user... he's not supposed to have a clue. |
| 00:57.28 | Maliuta | deadcat: apt-get install .... |
| 00:57.28 | EfaistOs | kernel-image-2.6.12 available ? |
| 00:57.34 | deadcat | Maliuta: no |
| 00:57.37 | resiak | EfaistOs: Not packaged yet. |
| 00:57.43 | mdh | and in sid, there's the added onus that the current version of udev in sid requires a kernel >= 2.6.12 (which was only recently packaged... for a while udev required a kernel that wasn't there ;) |
| 00:57.47 | Maliuta | deadcat: if you are on unstable make sure your kernel is 2.6.12 |
| 00:57.48 | mwilson | mdh: Just because it told him that it wasn't functional is no reason for him to be expected to believe that. |
| 00:57.50 | resiak | Oh, it's there now? |
| 00:57.57 | Maliuta | deadcat: udev is handy |
| 00:58.04 | mwilson | udev is crap |
| 00:58.06 | deadcat | Maliuta: ya. whats the advantage. |
| 00:58.09 | BorisH | I am trying to set up a webserver with debian sarge - works fine, up to one point. PHP gives me the information that the mysql_connect function does not exist. What package have I missed during install? (yes, php4-mysql is installed) |
| 00:58.22 | resiak | mwilson: Are you saying that on principle or do you have reasons. |
| 00:58.26 | Maliuta | deadcat: particualarly when there aren't enouh scsi devices created by default |
| 00:58.38 | resiak | BorisH: Edit php.ini, add the appropriate line to load the mysql so. |
| 00:58.44 | mdh | udev is broken for some people |
| 00:58.59 | mwilson | resiak: I'm saying that because I see no reason to belong to the "my /dev is emptier than yours" d*ck-waving club first created by devfs. |
| 00:59.06 | mwilson | resiak: It's meaningless. |
| 00:59.11 | deadcat | Maliuta: ah. i read about making it remember your usb drive as certain device or something so you dont get mix up with /dev/sda right? |
| 00:59.25 | cwood | I've had bad luck with udev and sound... it seems to have, on the gentoo machine I was cursed with at the time, intermittently made my sound devices switch permissions in unpredictable ways. |
| 00:59.28 | resiak | mwilson: How would you make things magically mount then? Oh, wait, you wouldn't. |
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| 00:59.36 | deadcat | is that duck-waving or dick-waving? |
| 00:59.42 | mwilson | resiak: Other things udev does (like persistent naming) could have been done without fscking with something as fundamental as /dev |
| 00:59.43 | cwood | I don't want things to magically mount. :) |
| 00:59.52 | resiak | mwilson: Let me rephrase that. How would you see at a glance what's there ? |
| 00:59.52 | Maliuta | deadcat: it creates devices as the are seen by the kernel, I find on my machine that there are not enough scsi devices created by most install scripts. I also read you can do that stuff with the usb drives |
| 00:59.56 | cwood | I want things to mount and unmount precisely when I tell them to, and at no other time. :) |
| 00:59.58 | mwilson | As for magic mounting... whyinhell would anyone with a brain want that? |
| 01:00.04 | lildude | fluxbox back ground? |
| 01:00.05 | mdh | deadcat: I think it's "deck-waving" - ie huge planks of timber |
| 01:00.07 | Maliuta | deadcat: I also use usbmount |
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| 01:00.50 | mwilson | resiak: "what's there"... where? You don't think I know what hardware I have in my box? I'd better know... I paid for it. |
| 01:00.53 | deadcat | mdh: i've seen d[iu]ck-waving, but never deck-waving |
| 01:00.53 | Maliuta | resiak: you use usbmount to magically mount things |
| 01:00.56 | resiak | mwilson: Because one day I might plug a hard disk I just stuck in a USB caddy in, and would rather not fuck around with mkdir; mount; for each partition when the system could _know_ _this_ _already_? |
| 01:01.14 | resiak | This is a stupid argument. |
| 01:01.18 | lildude | how to i get my defalt flux back |
| 01:01.32 | deadcat | lildude: what display manager you using? |
| 01:01.37 | Maliuta | mwilson: yeah but did the installer create the right device nodes? or enough of them? |
| 01:01.37 | cwood | See, people who don't mount things my way are disgusting and heretical and wrong. We know this by how Debian packages all forms of mounting packages. ... ;-) |
| 01:01.44 | lildude | flux |
| 01:01.52 | mwilson | Yes, like it's responsible administration to allow random devices to be mounted and unmounted. Please. |
| 01:01.52 | deadcat | lildude: dont worry. i am not gonna call you a crack head this time (= |
| 01:01.57 | lildude | which is defalt one |
| 01:02.01 | lildude | ice? |
| 01:02.10 | mwilson | Users don't get to make decisions like that. |
| 01:02.11 | deadcat | lildude: you're confusing me |
| 01:02.12 | Maliuta | deadcat: you've obviously had little contact with kiwi's then ;) |
| 01:02.22 | lildude | what is kiwi? |
| 01:02.32 | deadcat | Maliuta: nope. i just go to a wiki page to read, not to edit |
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| 01:02.41 | mdh | !kiwi |
| 01:02.42 | dpkg | i heard kiwi is a media player by clee at http://c133.org/kiwi/ |
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| 01:03.08 | deadcat | mdh: ah. i thought you said wiki |
| 01:03.14 | Maliuta | deadcat: kiwi is also the term for a newzealander, like a pommy is a british git |
| 01:03.14 | resiak | mwilson: On my laptop, I am the admin. If I plug it in, I want it mounted. Either it happens magically or I type n commands. I know which one hurts my hands less. |
| 01:03.22 | mdh | dpkg: kiwi is also a small flightless bird from some backwater country who populace root sheep |
| 01:03.22 | dpkg | mdh: okay |
| 01:03.37 | mdh | whose |
| 01:03.39 | mdh | fuckit |
| 01:03.42 | resiak | dpkg: kiwi =~ s/who populace/whose populace/ |
| 01:03.43 | dpkg | resiak: OK |
| 01:03.51 | Maliuta | lol |
| 01:03.54 | Kamping_At_Hut | hi all. does anyone know an easy way to disable screenavers system wide? |
| 01:03.58 | deadcat | dpkg: obey me |
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| 01:04.04 | Kamping_At_Hut | otether then removeve them? |
| 01:04.15 | encrypted | huh.... |
| 01:04.15 | cwood | Kamping_At_Hut: uninstall xscreensaver |
| 01:04.16 | mwilson | resiak: And you are most certainly in the minority. |
| 01:04.18 | s0cks | Have you ever shown up to work, and someone tells you that it looks like you've got a case of the mondays? |
| 01:04.23 | serpentwolf | just dont run the xscreensaver service? |
| 01:04.34 | encrypted | anyone have an arp table that looks correct but the routing doesn't seem to go to the right gateway? |
| 01:04.43 | pipeline | s0cks: No, my coworkers just hide from me. |
| 01:04.46 | Kamping_At_Hut | socks. its a dependancy of gnome |
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| 01:05.15 | resiak | mwilson: Is a home user their own admin ? |
| 01:05.21 | Maliuta | kamping: that doesn't mean you have to actually run it |
| 01:05.29 | resiak | mwilson: That's quite blatantly bullshit, by the way. |
| 01:05.33 | Kamping_At_Hut | is teh "gnome" package real or a metta package? |
| 01:05.44 | s0cks | resiak... sounds familiar... |
| 01:05.48 | Kamping_At_Hut | Maliuta: what do you mean? |
| 01:05.54 | Maliuta | resiak: does someone else fix their problems for them |
| 01:06.15 | Maliuta | Kamping: having a program installed and running it are two different things |
| 01:06.27 | mdh | mwilson: some people expect to plug in eg a usb key and have its filesystem automatically available. |
| 01:06.28 | resiak | Maliuta: Do you want your gran to make you come over when she wants to mount two usb keys at once ? |
| 01:06.34 | Maliuta | kamping: you should be able to prevent gnome from runnuning xscreensaver |
| 01:06.37 | Kamping_At_Hut | Maliuta: yehs, and i have to work out how to stop it being used |
| 01:06.43 | Kamping_At_Hut | ok |
| 01:06.48 | resiak | Maliuta: Do you want your gran to have to call you when she gets a new scanner ? |
| 01:06.52 | resiak | Ect. |
| 01:06.56 | resiak | Argh... |
| 01:07.03 | mdh | mwilson: remember security 101 - if they have physical access, they have root |
| 01:07.22 | resiak | Kamping_At_Hut: chmod -x it. |
| 01:07.30 | FieldySnuts | yeah mwilson really needs to be told that. |
| 01:07.33 | cwood | can't prevent people from running '/usr/bin/xscreensaver &', though, unless that binary just isn't there. |
| 01:07.36 | FieldySnuts | !smite mdh |
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| 01:07.56 | FieldySnuts | hrm, that classifies as irriating if anything |
| 01:07.58 | mdh | smite me oh mighty smiter |
| 01:07.58 | Kamping_At_Hut | cwood: so rename the bin? |
| 01:08.10 | Maliuta | resiak: the question was "is a home user their own admin?" generaly the answer is no - even with windows machines |
| 01:08.40 | FieldySnuts | you don't administer a windows system. it administers you (as well as the spybots and adware administering you) |
| 01:08.40 | mdh | Maliuta: especially with the next version, where Microsoft are taking even more admin rights away |
| 01:08.50 | cwood | Kamping_At_Hut: No, apt-get remove --purge xscreensaver -- if it's not there, people can't run it. Of course, they can still compile it in their own private bin, but heck... you're not fascist enough to control what people do in their own user accounts, right? ;-) |
| 01:08.54 | resiak | Kamping_At_Hut: Don't do that. dpkg will get upset. Use dpkg-statoverride to make it not executable. |
| 01:08.55 | Maliuta | cwood: they can't run it if they don't have execute permission |
| 01:09.07 | mdh | MS Windows has security privileges higher than "Administrator" |
| 01:09.11 | resiak | cwood: Unfortunately, the Gnome control panel depends on it. |
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| 01:09.18 | FieldySnuts | mdh: go tell a channel where that's on topic |
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| 01:09.50 | Kamping_At_Hut | thanks resiak and cwood |
| 01:09.58 | comenius | somebody speack spanish? |
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| 01:10.02 | cwood | actually, I think you can still run a -x binary by doing: /lib/ld-2.3.2.so ./bash |
| 01:10.14 | deadcat | comenius: no |
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| 01:10.34 | mdh | comenius: usted es moi bonita |
| 01:10.36 | encrypted | comenius: yo hablo espanol; que pasas? |
| 01:10.39 | cwood | for instance, I copied /bin/bash to my home dir, chmod -x it, and I can still run it with that syntax. |
| 01:10.45 | encrypted | *pasa |
| 01:10.51 | Maliuta | I don't think anyone in the world speacks a language :) |
| 01:10.51 | encrypted | maldita tecla >< |
| 01:10.53 | comenius | tengo problemas con las xkb y no puedo solucionarlo |
| 01:11.09 | deadcat | you tell him how we speak spanish in #debian! |
| 01:11.15 | encrypted | cual es el error? |
| 01:11.17 | comenius | uso sarge con gnome |
| 01:11.26 | resiak | cwood: And you can't stop someone building from source, either... but -x is easier than removing. |
| 01:11.29 | resiak | !es |
| 01:11.30 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:11.34 | resiak | !bed |
| 01:11.38 | pipeline | encrypted, comenius : #debian-es |
| 01:11.39 | mdh | mi pollo no tiene ningún labio |
| 01:11.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower |
| 01:11.47 | FieldySnuts | asl? |
| 01:11.50 | Maliuta | resiak: you can deny them a compiler :) |
| 01:11.51 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:11.51 | cwood | So I think we've established that you can't prevent people from running xscreensaver, only irritate the ones who will do it no matter what. |
| 01:11.59 | cwood | !shower |
| 01:11.59 | dpkg | [shower] something that if done more than once a week, loses you serious hacker points. ask me about hygiene |
| 01:12.00 | encrypted | comenius: mueve el chat a #debian-es entonces :D |
| 01:12.02 | FieldySnuts | that could so be taken the wrong way |
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| 01:12.08 | cwood | !hygiene |
| 01:12.08 | dpkg | I dont know a guy named Gene, so why would I tell him hi?, or Hey. I think its time for bed. |
| 01:12.10 | comenius | no problem |
| 01:12.13 | FieldySnuts | ... |
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| 01:12.22 | Kamping_At_Hut | cwood: if it doesnt happey by defaut thses ppl wont know how to fix it |
| 01:12.32 | cwood | Kamping_At_Hut: Ah. n/m what I said, then. |
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| 01:17.12 | Maliuta | kamping: there surely has to be an easy way to disable it from some gnome control mechanism, shit you can turn things like sound on and off fairly easily |
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| 01:18.19 | angy17 | i've installed Debian 3.1 on my machine... but i would know how can i use interface graphic... bcs when i boot debian there is only command string |
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| 01:19.13 | laura | could I get help with my printer installation? the brand and model isn't on the list of printers available to install |
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| 01:19.28 | simonrvn | apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 01:20.05 | fortysixand2 | laura: What model is? |
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| 01:20.19 | fortysixand2 | is it |
| 01:20.27 | pipeline | laura: Perhaps you simply haven't installed enough garbage. Have you installed the cupsys, cupsys-bsd, and foomatic-filters-ppds packages? |
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| 01:20.48 | pipeline | laura: What wizard are you using to set up your printer? I suggest using either the gnome cups frontend (gnome-cups-manager) or the foomatic-gui |
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| 01:20.53 | black13 | does sarge have xorg |
| 01:20.57 | angy17 | can anyone help me? |
| 01:20.57 | deadcat | black13: no |
| 01:21.09 | vali | black13: no |
| 01:21.19 | black13 | does etch |
| 01:21.22 | deadcat | black13: but in 3 weeks |
| 01:21.34 | Karhuton | black13, Sid has |
| 01:21.37 | deadcat | !xorg debs |
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| 01:21.54 | deadcat | black13: dpkg has a factoid about a backport of xorg for sarge |
| 01:22.01 | angy17 | i've installed Debian 3.1 on my machine... but i would know how can i use interface graphic... bcs when i boot debian there is only command string |
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| 01:22.14 | mdh | !get xorg |
| 01:22.14 | dpkg | xorg recently entered unstable. EXPECT MAJOR BREAKAGE. if you were previously running xorg debs from any other source you must remove all traces of xorg packages before you install the official xorg packages, or currently nvidia-glx is not working with xorg. so if you need 3d accel with an nvidia card, don't migrate to xorg, or see <xorg-nvidia>, or <xorg sarge> |
| 01:22.16 | fortysixand2 | angy13: /etc/inittab. find the "Default runlevel" and change it to 5 |
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| 01:22.28 | pipeline | angy17: Install the "x-window-system", "gdm", and "gnome-desktop-environment" |
| 01:22.35 | gravity | The nvidia-glx should work now |
| 01:22.36 | fortysixand2 | true |
| 01:22.40 | afabian | laura, if you're using magicfilter, there's a generic gdi printer file in /etc/magicfilter that I got working with my Lexmark 7000 (piece of junk) with minor tweaking. |
| 01:22.40 | fortysixand2 | you need X |
| 01:22.45 | mdh | wonder why it didn't in the first place? |
| 01:22.46 | dontpanic | is tar the right command to use to decomperss a tar.bz2 file? |
| 01:22.46 | angy17 | pipe where i could get it? |
| 01:22.49 | pipeline | fortysixand2: Changing the runlevel won't do anything. |
| 01:22.52 | gravity | I'm glad I'm outpacing the dpkg factoids :-) |
| 01:22.54 | mdh | its not like nvidia didn't have xorg binaries |
| 01:23.05 | fortysixand2 | pipeline: true, I assumed there was X installed though |
| 01:23.06 | pipeline | angy17: You don't have to "get" anything. The debian package manager will automatically fetch everything for you when you tell it to install those packages. |
| 01:23.18 | mdh | gravity: you've done a good job btw |
| 01:23.24 | pipeline | fortysixand2: No, it won't do anything period. if X and gdm are installed, they'll start on runlevel 3, multi-user. |
| 01:23.30 | mdh | !beer gravity |
| 01:23.34 | pipeline | fortysixand2: Debian doesn't differentiate runlevels 3,4,5 by default. |
| 01:23.35 | gravity | Thanks |
| 01:23.51 | pipeline | angy17: Do you know how to install things at all on debian? |
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| 01:23.53 | fortysixand2 | ok. Mine is at 5, so that's what I said |
| 01:23.54 | TheAsp | pipeline: 2,3,4,5... |
| 01:23.58 | angy17 | pipe im new in this |
| 01:24.06 | angy17 | which command must i write for install it |
| 01:24.12 | laura | I think so, pipeline |
| 01:24.16 | laura | I can check |
| 01:24.23 | idimmu | pipeline ./configure && make && make install ? :D |
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| 01:24.37 | jsn | apt-get install packagename |
| 01:24.37 | pipeline | idimmu: maybe on woody :P |
| 01:24.42 | mdh | gravity: my g450 doesn't have glx either, but I think its because matrox don't have 6.8.2 binaries, only 6.8.1 and it whines about certain symbols etc. I haven't had the time to look into it properly though |
| 01:24.54 | black13 | deadcat et all can i make sid install and directly install xorg debs? |
| 01:24.54 | pipeline | angy17: Hang on, I'll find the relevant section of the install guide. It's pretty damn easy. |
| 01:25.09 | black13 | or do you need to install x11 then install xorg? |
| 01:25.11 | pipeline | black13: Don't ask questions about sid. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it. End of story. |
| 01:25.16 | jsn | I've got a CD with a seriously bad scratch. Can anyone recommend what tool to use to read it? |
| 01:25.20 | angy17 | if u can find it in italian is better..thanx pipeline |
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| 01:25.25 | pipeline | jsn: dd_rescue :P |
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| 01:25.29 | deadcat | black13: what? in sid you jsut apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 01:25.29 | TheAsp | jsn: data or music? |
| 01:25.34 | mdh | black13: xorg has replaced xfree86 in sid. |
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| 01:25.41 | jsn | TheAsp: data |
| 01:25.43 | gravity | X.Org is the only X11 implementation in sid |
| 01:25.43 | drac | black13: X.Org is XServer that uses X11 Protocol so that question was kind of not valid? |
| 01:25.51 | deadcat | mdh: you mean in x-window-system-core? |
| 01:25.51 | laura | oh, I was using KDE whatever |
| 01:25.58 | laura | I don' |
| 01:26.02 | laura | t care for KDE< but it's default |
| 01:26.23 | mdh | deadcat: ?? |
| 01:26.28 | deadcat | drac: i like that image on your site (=... HAHAHAHA real or fake? |
| 01:26.42 | deadcat | mdh: apt-get install x-window-system-core in sid gets xorg or xfree? |
| 01:26.48 | mdh | deadcat: xorg |
| 01:26.51 | black13 | drac pipeline thanks for the help i so appreciate it |
| 01:26.53 | deadcat | nicy nicy |
| 01:26.59 | pipeline | angy17: The official docs aren't available in italian. Spanish, yes, english, yes, but no italian. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s02.html.en#configure-apt |
| 01:27.13 | angy17 | ok thnx whatever |
| 01:27.32 | pipeline | angy17: This section of the install guide explains how to set up apt. You have probably already set up apt; in that case, you can either use "aptitude" (A command that gives you a psuedo-gui interface to install packages) or "apt-get install <packagename>" |
| 01:27.49 | jsn | angy17: There is #debian-it for italian |
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| 01:27.57 | drac | deadcat: haha, it just goes with the zyklon-b.mp3.. not sure is it fake or not :P |
| 01:28.24 | deadcat | drac: i was laughing my ass off when i saw that above the church hahaha |
| 01:28.27 | black13 | do you know what zyclon b is |
| 01:28.32 | fortysixand2 | gas |
| 01:28.39 | fortysixand2 | bad gas |
| 01:28.55 | black13 | i was the gas used to exterminate the jews at the death camps |
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| 01:29.05 | deadcat | black13: we know |
| 01:29.14 | black13 | sad |
| 01:29.31 | drac | world is. |
| 01:29.34 | angy17 | thnx jsn |
| 01:29.39 | jsn | np |
| 01:29.41 | deadcat | black13: ya. some people just cant take a joke.. )= |
| 01:29.51 | laura | I have all those packages except the foomatic one installed |
| 01:30.01 | black13 | a joke is pull my finger |
| 01:30.02 | laura | I don't see foomatic on the list |
| 01:30.08 | mdh | my grandfather died in a concentration camp |
| 01:30.20 | mdh | fell out of one of the guard towers |
| 01:30.29 | laura | oh there it is |
| 01:30.38 | laura | under cupsomatic |
| 01:30.40 | black13 | ba dump bump |
| 01:30.55 | black13 | my asocial brothers |
| 01:31.19 | deadcat | laura: cups is over-rated. |
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| 01:31.39 | laura | yes, but I need a printer that works |
| 01:31.43 | laura | my paper is due tomorrow |
| 01:31.55 | black13 | pipeline: is there a sid iso |
| 01:31.58 | deadcat | laura: oh girl. |
| 01:32.05 | jsn | black13: definitely not |
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| 01:32.24 | pipeline | black13: If you have to ask... |
| 01:32.33 | pipeline | black13: Seriously. sid is a non-trivial endeavour. |
| 01:32.50 | laura | shrug |
| 01:32.51 | black13 | i like play in the freeway |
| 01:32.53 | deadcat | black13: you know why your box is going crazy on you? |
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| 01:32.57 | jsn | I'm getting GPG errors against debian.org |
| 01:32.59 | black13 | vmware |
| 01:33.05 | jsn | Is that expected breakage? |
| 01:33.07 | black13 | deadcat vmware |
| 01:33.15 | deadcat | black13: no.. sid. |
| 01:33.21 | black13 | who cares if i trash it |
| 01:33.29 | pipeline | jsn: Yeah, i haven't been upgrading anything for that reason. |
| 01:33.31 | deadcat | black13: then you on your own |
| 01:33.41 | jsn | pipeline: okee doke, thx |
| 01:33.45 | laura | hmm, my printer still isn't showing up on the installation list |
| 01:33.46 | black13 | wasnt i always |
| 01:33.46 | TheAsp | aww |
| 01:33.52 | TheAsp | now i have that heart song in my head |
| 01:33.55 | TheAsp | thanks deadcat |
| 01:34.01 | mdh | jsn: against what repositories? |
| 01:34.04 | deadcat | black13: ya. because the rest of us run debian on a real machine. none of those fucking vitual shits |
| 01:34.20 | deadcat | TheAsp: anything to help |
| 01:34.40 | secher | Heyas all. I've got a Linksys WPC54GS wireless pcmcia nic for my laptop. I'd rather get one for which there are drivers available for GNU/Linux, however, beggars can't be choosers. I installed the NDIS wrapper packages for Debian, and I'm trying to find a site or someone who can help me get it connected. I grabbed the '98 drivers from Linksys site, but I don't know what the next step is. Can I get suggestions of where to look f |
| 01:34.42 | mdh | laura: is your printer compatible with anything that is on the list |
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| 01:34.57 | mdh | laura: eg, many printers will do hplj4 fine |
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| 01:35.40 | jsn | mdh: I guess you mean sid. |
| 01:35.41 | black13 | deadcat: can i ask you how old you are? |
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| 01:35.48 | Stauf | 'morning all |
| 01:35.54 | deadcat | black13: older than you |
| 01:36.02 | black13 | probably not |
| 01:36.06 | jsn | mdh: When you ask, what repositories. |
| 01:36.07 | deadcat | you 13 right? |
| 01:36.16 | pipeline | secher: ndiswrapper isn't easy to deal with. Sometimes it just doesn't work. I suggest you check /usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper |
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| 01:36.24 | mdh | jsn: newsamosa and another machine are down - if that's the mirror you've got you're screwed atm - see /topic |
| 01:36.40 | secher | pipeline: will do. Thanks. |
| 01:36.44 | mdh | jsn: I was thinking more like you may still have non-us in the list |
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| 01:37.04 | Stauf | I've got a quick, and I'm pretty sure stupid, question, but I couldn't find an answer on google: |
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| 01:37.19 | deadcat | Stauf: use cfdisk |
| 01:37.20 | Stauf | How can I tell apt-get that a package it thinks is still there, is gone? |
| 01:37.27 | fortysixand2 | secher: I got ndiswrapper running with little trouble. ndiswrapper -l <path/to/.inf file> |
| 01:37.29 | black13 | deadcat i was going to you a lot of ability an knowlege but not much tolerance |
| 01:37.32 | jsn | mdh: I did. I read _most_ of the /topic :) |
| 01:37.50 | deadcat | black13: please clearify the last comment. |
| 01:37.57 | mdh | jsn: from memory newsamosa was one of the ftp.us.debian.org mirrors |
| 01:38.03 | secher | fortysixand2: can you give me a quick rundown on the steps? |
| 01:38.12 | LuPuZ | Heya... i got a little problem(i think :P)... When i install debian sarge from my netinstallation i just downloaded and burned i get some errors... when i identfy and mount the cd rom it can't load some modules... i810-tco and tg3 ... tg3 i know will be installed later... but the i810-tco i'm a little worried about :( |
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| 01:38.31 | deadcat | black13: if you think i am bad. chat with mwilson HAHAHAH |
| 01:38.32 | mdh | jsn: apt will give gpg errors when it can't get the key because the server is dead ;) |
| 01:38.39 | fortysixand2 | secher: I used a script from a Knoppix disk, so it might not help you much |
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| 01:38.49 | black13 | debian i think you are very bright and have helped me out several times but when i go off script you get upset |
| 01:39.00 | fortysixand2 | but basically, you have to have the .inf and .sys files |
| 01:39.07 | mdh | mwilson reminds me of that US comedian guy... steve somebody or other |
| 01:39.17 | jsn | mdh: thx for explaining. i'm fine. i'll just use sleep rather than reboot for a while :) |
| 01:39.24 | mdh | looks a bit like deuce bigalow |
| 01:39.24 | black13 | yeah mwilson is a real treat |
| 01:39.39 | fortysixand2 | ndiswrapper -i .inf file to install |
| 01:39.40 | black13 | he is on my ignore list |
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| 01:40.06 | secher | black13: deadcat does not lie in this case.. mwilson takes perverse pleasure in practicing his arrogance act on unsuspecting visitors. |
| 01:40.25 | secher | fortysixand2: Kk, thanks, at least that's a start. |
| 01:40.41 | deadcat | black13: i am PMSing (= |
| 01:41.29 | deadcat | secher: i have people skills. i deal with the goddamn customers |
| 01:41.40 | black13 | ok cool that i can dig ... |
| 01:41.41 | fortysixand2 | secher: np |
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| 01:41.51 | black13 | please please dont take my stapler |
| 01:41.57 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 01:42.07 | mdh | I have people skills, did karate for a long time |
| 01:42.16 | black13 | hey git this im like that guy in office space i have been on payroll now for 3 monts and i havnt done shit |
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| 01:42.30 | black13 | i am working out of my house and just working on stuff i dream up |
| 01:42.43 | mdh | black13: I'll swap ya |
| 01:42.55 | deadcat | black13: sounds like you're a pimp |
| 01:43.05 | black13 | its funny i want to go back 9 to 6 |
| 01:43.14 | fortysixand2 | I need some free money. being a grad student isn't cheap :( |
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| 01:43.26 | black13 | i figure that they will get tired of this and fire me |
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| 01:43.55 | deadcat | fortysixand2: we wont laugh at you, you just made a bad decision |
| 01:44.00 | aedwards | Folks...how do I tell apt-get dist-upgrade to ignore spamassassin? I have updated the apt.conf file based on searches from google but my --simulate shows that apt is going to install and configure a new version of spamassassin. |
| 01:44.32 | deadcat | aedwards: echo spamassassin hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections |
| 01:44.35 | fortysixand2 | deadcat: naw, I want to be in research. A PhD is the way to go |
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| 01:45.00 | tracysun | can rpm used in debian |
| 01:45.03 | deadcat | fortysixand2: ah. |
| 01:45.10 | deadcat | tracysun: ya. or alien |
| 01:45.19 | outlaw84 | how can I see what groups I have on the computer? |
| 01:45.23 | stew | tracysun: yes but in most cases there is a better way |
| 01:45.26 | deadcat | outlaw84: id |
| 01:45.31 | stew | outlaw84: "groups" |
| 01:45.38 | fortysixand2 | outlaw: groups |
| 01:45.52 | fortysixand2 | too slow |
| 01:45.53 | aedwards | deadcat does that update a file or something so I can remove the hold later? |
| 01:45.55 | Maliuta | outlaw: cat /etc/groups |
| 01:45.57 | Stauf | Anyone? How can I tell apt that a certain package no longer exists? |
| 01:45.58 | deadcat | fortysixand2: you loose |
| 01:46.03 | fortysixand2 | :( |
| 01:46.13 | Maliuta | outlaw: the groups command will show you what groups you are a member of |
| 01:46.17 | deadcat | aedwards: no it wont touch spamass... |
| 01:46.19 | stew | Stauf: apt-get remove package |
| 01:46.34 | Stauf | Doesn't work - it panics when it can't find the file |
| 01:46.40 | outlaw84 | all above commands show what groups are logged in or what groups the current user us member off..... I was looking to know all existing groups on the computer |
| 01:46.46 | black13 | black13 wants to change his name to boxybrown ... A number one king of New York |
| 01:46.58 | aedwards | deadcat how do I remove the hold later when I want to update spamassassin? |
| 01:46.59 | deadcat | outlaw84: cat /etc/group |
| 01:47.06 | deadcat | aedwards: change hold to install |
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| 01:47.09 | stew | Stauf: so you somehow removed the files of a package by hand instead of removing the package? |
| 01:47.33 | Stauf | I think someone used webmin's internal upgrade function |
| 01:47.45 | outlaw84 | yea thanks Maliuta and deadcat, didn't see that when I started typing |
| 01:47.48 | Stauf | Then deleted the webmin config dirs to try fix something |
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| 01:47.50 | stew | hah |
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| 01:47.58 | black13 | ok what i have read is that you cant install sid you have to update to sid |
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| 01:48.05 | stew | someone has access to webmin but you don't know who it might be, thats just funny |
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| 01:48.15 | deadcat | !tell black13 about testing->unstable |
| 01:48.16 | tracysun | apt-get update didn't work,i try several times |
| 01:48.16 | Stauf | Well, I know it's one of three guys |
| 01:48.26 | deadcat | tracysun: try a diff mirror |
| 01:48.34 | litage_ | quick PAM/passwd question posted: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VwbEi919.html |
| 01:48.36 | Stauf | But our all-knowing debian admin is on holiday til Friday |
| 01:48.50 | deadcat | Stauf: wait for his ass (= |
| 01:48.52 | tracysun | the same result |
| 01:48.57 | black13 | !tell deadcat you know you love me admit it |
| 01:49.01 | stew | Stauf: just touch the missing files so that the package manager thinks they are still there, then apt-get remove webmin |
| 01:49.15 | tracysun | can't connect |
| 01:49.29 | Stauf | A'right - just touch <filename> ? |
| 01:49.31 | deadcat | black13: only when iam in the mood |
| 01:49.39 | black13 | what would it take |
| 01:49.53 | aedwards | thanks deadcat |
| 01:50.01 | black13 | fine wine some grass ... barry white? |
| 01:50.04 | deadcat | tracysun: you sure you have internet? |
| 01:50.13 | deadcat | black13: hahaha... fuck barry white. |
| 01:50.23 | tracysun | sure |
| 01:50.35 | deadcat | tracysun: then you're fucked |
| 01:50.58 | TheAsp | litage_: bizzare. |
| 01:51.08 | black13 | man barry laid more pipe then anyone on this chat |
| 01:51.09 | litage_ | TheAsp: i agree |
| 01:51.22 | Draconicus | ARGH |
| 01:51.24 | FieldySnuts | um. |
| 01:51.33 | Draconicus | Why do upgrades want me to either remove the GNOME core or KDE core?! |
| 01:51.40 | Draconicus | Damned bugs are everywhere! |
| 01:51.48 | stew | Draconicus: welcome to sid |
| 01:52.07 | Draconicus | I'M NOT ON SID |
| 01:52.09 | deadcat | stew: should be "thats what you get for using sid" |
| 01:52.16 | Draconicus | I HATE it when people think I'm on sid. |
| 01:52.23 | Draconicus | I'm on etch! |
| 01:52.23 | Stauf | Aha! Works! Thanks a lot. |
| 01:52.26 | deadcat | Draconicus: you on crack? |
| 01:52.38 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite Draconicus |
| 01:52.38 | stew | Draconicus: what package wants to remove kde? |
| 01:52.39 | dpkg | Draconicus: yeahh bob's your uncle you stupid wanker |
| 01:52.44 | secher | stauf: man and apropos are your friends. I'm not being facetious, just honest. man man, man apropos, and then man find or whatever else you are lookning for. |
| 01:52.55 | stew | Draconicus: are you running etch or sarge? |
| 01:52.58 | Draconicus | stew: I don't know yet. I was trying to do a massive update. |
| 01:53.09 | stew | Draconicus: upgrading from sarge to etch? |
| 01:53.16 | Draconicus | stew: etch, as far as I know. Maybe I'm wrong... |
| 01:53.25 | Draconicus | masive update of packages... |
| 01:53.38 | deadcat | Draconicus: if you dont know. thats worst then using sid. |
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| 01:53.57 | Draconicus | I was on Sarge originally... I thought the latest testing kernels would be transitioning into what they're calling etch, now. |
| 01:54.12 | stew | sarge with an etch kernel? |
| 01:54.21 | tracysun | tmd |
| 01:54.38 | secher | Wild. I can FTP from GBritan faster than I can from UPenn, which is geographically 20 minutes from my home. |
| 01:55.08 | Draconicus | How can I find this out, exactly? I think I might still be on Sarge... |
| 01:55.32 | deadcat | secher: hahah. upenn students bittorrentting |
| 01:55.42 | deadcat | Draconicus: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:55.45 | secher | deadcat: prolly. <grin> |
| 01:55.49 | litage_ | when changing files in /etc/pam.d/ do you have to run something for the changes to take effect? |
| 01:56.00 | stew | Draconicus: tell us what "cat /etc/debian_version" says, and paste your sources.list into #flood |
| 01:56.20 | stew | litage_: you do not |
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| 01:56.36 | Draconicus | crap... no wonder why I'm having problems... I have mixed sources.. |
| 01:56.46 | deadcat | debian should make debian_version say testing OR unstable instead of testing/unstable, thats like saying "i dont know" |
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| 01:57.20 | litage_ | stew: so the changes are immediate? thanks |
| 01:57.34 | stew | hahahaha |
| 01:57.39 | stew | 21:52 < Draconicus> I'M NOT ON SID |
| 01:57.55 | TheAsp | is he on sid? |
| 01:57.56 | TheAsp | :) |
| 01:57.57 | secher | testing/unstable = !unstable. EOF. |
| 01:57.58 | Draconicus | I wasn't supposed to be on sid. |
| 01:57.59 | stew | 21:56 < Draconicus> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 01:58.15 | TheAsp | looks like sid to me :) |
| 01:58.24 | stew | 21:52 < Draconicus> I HATE it when people think I'm on sid. |
| 01:58.28 | deadcat | bastard's on sid. |
| 01:58.33 | liable | hehe |
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| 01:58.40 | Draconicus | ARGH |
| 01:58.45 | deadcat | hang him!!! |
| 01:58.55 | Draconicus | How did that get in my sources list?! |
| 01:59.04 | secher | I've got sid, anyone want? |
| 01:59.12 | TheAsp | Draconicus: it probably got in there right before you saved the file |
| 01:59.12 | stew | Draconicus: maybe you got a virus that edits your sources.list |
| 01:59.14 | Draconicus | I think somebody told me to put it there way back when, and now I'm fucked... Anyway to get on etch from here? |
| 01:59.30 | stew | Draconicus: /msg dpkg install debian |
| 01:59.33 | drac | I'm just going to say this, to make confusion to all of your nick completions. :-P |
| 01:59.47 | TheAsp | nooooo! |
| 01:59.48 | liable | bastard :P |
| 01:59.59 | deadcat | Draconicus: try to use debfoster to remove all packages and leave the base-install. see if that works or not. |
| 02:00.14 | Draconicus | errg... |
| 02:00.22 | TheAsp | Draconicus: learn to live with it |
| 02:00.28 | deadcat | drac tahts fucked up (= |
| 02:00.40 | liable | Draconicus: back up your shit and re-install.. |
| 02:01.15 | Draconicus | Somebody told me to put unstable in my package lists, saying it wouldn't mean I would be on unstable, just that I'd be using unstable's packages, and that they should work somewhat. |
| 02:01.21 | Draconicus | I remember now. |
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| 02:01.31 | Draconicus | It was somebody from this channel, too. I don't remember who, unfortunately. |
| 02:01.39 | deadcat | dont look at me (= |
| 02:01.47 | liable | wtf, how can you have unstable packages and be on unstable? |
| 02:01.51 | liable | not.. |
| 02:02.11 | Draconicus | I don't know. |
| 02:02.19 | Draconicus | This was my second month on Linux. |
| 02:02.22 | deadcat | liable: sure you can. just have to be careful about it |
| 02:02.33 | liable | deadcat: sure if you pin it.. |
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| 02:03.02 | Draconicus | I'm not living with sid, that's for sure. debfoster will remove packages without configuration, right? |
| 02:03.21 | deadcat | Draconicus: ya. just dont hit p, hit n |
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| 02:03.48 | deadcat | Draconicus: just dont remove base<something> |
| 02:04.10 | Draconicus | Aren't the base packages what determine the version? |
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| 02:04.20 | deadcat | Draconicus: then you're fucked. |
| 02:04.20 | dondelelcaro | (or did at some point in time) |
| 02:04.41 | Draconicus | I must have sarge base packages. |
| 02:05.01 | Draconicus | Anyway, is there a file for apt that lists all installed packages? |
| 02:05.11 | deadcat | Draconicus: save the base then dpkg -i basepackage.deb to downgrade maybe (= |
| 02:05.22 | deadcat | Draconicus: dpkg --get-selections |
| 02:05.48 | Draconicus | You aren't helping, you're just confusing me. Explain what I should do. Don't just throw commands at me. |
| 02:05.58 | deadcat | Draconicus: dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 ~ "^installed$"' |
| 02:06.02 | Draconicus | Downgrading is like pulling teeth from a shark. |
| 02:06.13 | Draconicus | shark's mouth... err |
| 02:06.13 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 02:06.14 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; |
| 02:06.16 | deadcat | Draconicus: reinstall |
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| 02:06.54 | litage_ | if you comment out every line in /etc/securetty would that completely prevent logging in as root, but still allow users to become root via `su`? |
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| 02:07.35 | secher | Ok, I installed ndiswrapper, got the linksys files, ran ndiswrapper -i <whateveritwas>.inf, ran depmod, ran lspci, and the nic shows up, but the infname is not in lspci, and no link light. Any more help? |
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| 02:07.50 | _Raptor_ | hi |
| 02:07.56 | litage_ | howdy _Raptor_ |
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| 02:08.24 | dondelelcaro | secher: the nic will always show up in lspci regardless of whether or not the driver is loaded. |
| 02:08.26 | bob2 | litage_: just getting rid of root's password would do that |
| 02:08.55 | secher | don: I thought so, but I hadn't checked for it previously, so I figured I"d include it. |
| 02:09.00 | xidaux | is MIPS/bogomips really a useless measurement of system performance ? |
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| 02:09.05 | deadcat | secher: ndiswrapper: milage may vary |
| 02:09.08 | bisk | hi. I upgraded my firewall from woody to sarge then it's broken now. |
| 02:09.08 | baroni | Hi all. Does anyone knows if is possible to have a different locale for a specific user ? |
| 02:09.09 | bob2 | xidaux: yes |
| 02:09.18 | bob2 | baroni: sure |
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| 02:09.19 | _Raptor_ | after an upgrade my postfix makes problems: |
| 02:09.20 | xidaux | bob2: Care to explain why ? |
| 02:09.22 | dondelelcaro | baroni: yes. Just set LANG appropriately. |
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| 02:09.25 | litage_ | bob2: are there not security issues with having no password for root? |
| 02:09.36 | _Raptor_ | all i see is: dpkg: error processing postfix (--configure): |
| 02:09.36 | _Raptor_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.39 | bob2 | xidaux: it measures how quickly a cpu can do an empty loop |
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| 02:09.41 | baroni | dondelelcaro: how do that for just a user ? |
| 02:09.44 | _Raptor_ | how can i get more verbosity? |
| 02:09.44 | bob2 | xidaux: which is pointles |
| 02:09.45 | secher | deadcat: understood. I'm more wondering if I missed a step or somesuch. |
| 02:09.53 | bob2 | _Raptor_: tha's not the full error. paste it all to #flood |
| 02:09.58 | dondelelcaro | baroni: export LANG="foolang"; set it in your .bashrc or whatever is appropriate. |
| 02:10.12 | baroni | thanks dondelelcaro :D |
| 02:10.17 | vali | xidaux: bogomips is the amount of times the system does nothing IIRC |
| 02:10.28 | deadcat | secher: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/ndis-hack change the right ini files |
| 02:10.35 | stew | vali: times one million |
| 02:10.51 | stew | err billion |
| 02:11.31 | vali | million... bogus million operation in a second |
| 02:11.33 | bisk | threre is kernel changes, sysctl parameters to configure in sarge to make a simple firewall? |
| 02:11.45 | Draconicus | Alright, I need somebody to please save me from this nightmare. Tell me exactly what I need to do, and please don't screw me up. I love Debian and I was supposed to be on testing. I don't remember exactly why I put unstable in my package lists, but now things are screwed. Please, get me on etch. Find the best way. |
| 02:11.50 | bob2 | bisk: no |
| 02:12.03 | secher | deadcat: on my way. |
| 02:12.04 | bob2 | bisk: just install the ipmasq package if you want simple ip masquerading |
| 02:12.06 | secher | Thanks! |
| 02:12.14 | bob2 | if you want something more complicated, use shorewall |
| 02:12.19 | bob2 | and ENABLE IP FORWARDING |
| 02:12.27 | bob2 | or you'll waste four hours like I did last night |
| 02:12.35 | xidaux | vali: Just raw MIPS is useless right ? I emphasize RAW and I'm not talking about bogoMIPS. |
| 02:12.44 | _Raptor_ | http://rafb.net/paste/results/AKco2448.html << here is the complete problem |
| 02:12.51 | bob2 | MIPS are also useless |
| 02:12.56 | baroni | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 02:13.07 | bisk | my problem is. My several woody firewalls were ok. Upgraded all then to sarge. Now they don't work. |
| 02:13.10 | bob2 | in the sense that all benchmarks that aren't of your specific code are useless |
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| 02:13.22 | xidaux | bob2: I don't believe it |
| 02:13.24 | vali | i think is even more useless XD |
| 02:13.36 | _Raptor_ | bob2: any idea? |
| 02:13.38 | bob2 | you can believe what you want |
| 02:13.42 | xidaux | bob2: I believe it's the opposite that MHZ and GHZ are useless |
| 02:13.51 | bob2 | yes, they are useless too |
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| 02:14.18 | dak | bisk thats why u should back up important shit |
| 02:14.28 | Draconicus | Thanks for your wonderful support. |
| 02:14.41 | vali | bisk: do you use some weird iptables module? |
| 02:14.47 | bob2 | I don't see you asking a question, Draconicus |
| 02:14.54 | xidaux | bob2: I believe MIPS are usefull when comparing heterogenous architectures as long as it's not RAW but process through an adjustment mathematical formula |
| 02:15.05 | bob2 | if you've upgraded to unstable, and want etch, you basically need to reinstall |
| 02:15.08 | crispynix-v6 | _Raptor_: try apt-get install --reinstall postfix |
| 02:15.10 | bob2 | and be far more careful in future |
| 02:15.12 | xidaux | bob2: I believe MIPS are usefull when comparing heterogenous architectures as long as it's not RAW but processed through an adjustment mathematical formula rather |
| 02:15.16 | bisk | just trivial modules to masquerade and ftp |
| 02:15.26 | bob2 | you could try downgrading, but, for instance, dpkg will be very very unhappy downgrading |
| 02:15.29 | dak | bisk did you upgrade kernels ? |
| 02:15.33 | dak | or jsut the distro |
| 02:15.37 | bob2 | xidaux: as I said, you can believe what you like |
| 02:15.41 | _Raptor_ | crispynix-v6: the same :-( |
| 02:15.50 | xidaux | bob2: Good because my IQ is higher than average |
| 02:15.54 | bob2 | xidaux: how does MIPS help me estimate which system will run my python factoring program? |
| 02:15.58 | bob2 | xidaux: hahahaha |
| 02:15.59 | bisk | dak: yes, to 2.6.8 |
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| 02:16.05 | Chiko_Medina | Can't locate API module structure `mod_auth_mysql' in file /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_mysql.so: /usr/sbin/apache: undefined symbol: mod_auth_mysql |
| 02:16.06 | dak | well their u go |
| 02:16.11 | Chiko_Medina | i need help |
| 02:16.17 | bisk | (sarge stable) |
| 02:16.18 | dak | from 2.4.x ? |
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| 02:16.34 | bisk | dak: yes |
| 02:16.35 | Jamsi | Just wondering how I can block email from a certain user in exim4 ? |
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| 02:16.43 | bob2 | I wonder which is more statistically useless, IQ or MIPS |
| 02:16.48 | HanClinto | How do I get startx to start xserver with accepting requests on TCP port 6000 enabled? (it appears to be disabled by default in this version) -- running Etch/Sid |
| 02:16.49 | crispynix-v6 | _Raptor_: alright, apt-get remove --purge postfix mailx mutt and try again? perhaps install postfix first, then the others |
| 02:16.57 | dak | whats the module package u need for 2.6 |
| 02:17.00 | dak | he might need that |
| 02:17.04 | _Raptor_ | how can i get more information waht is going wront |
| 02:17.06 | jose | my friends when i try to open the url http://localhost/squirrelmail, return the |
| 02:17.06 | jose | message `is of type application;x-httpd-php, and Mozilla does not know how to handle this file:this file is locate at http://localhos how i correct this problem? |
| 02:17.07 | _Raptor_ | wrong |
| 02:17.08 | bob2 | Chiko_Medina: sounds like you've done something weird to mysql |
| 02:17.17 | bob2 | _Raptor_: what happened to postfix to begin with? |
| 02:17.23 | jose | help me please |
| 02:17.24 | bisk | but a installed a test machine using pppe with pppoe and did't work too |
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| 02:17.35 | bob2 | HanClinto: etch != sid |
| 02:17.36 | jose | i have to make the webmail until tomorow |
| 02:17.56 | HanClinto | bob2: Well it's a mix -- basically it's etch with a few sid packages |
| 02:18.02 | Chiko_Medina | Can't locate API module structure `mod_auth_mysql' in file /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_mysql.so: /usr/sbin/apache: undefined symbol: mod_auth_mysql |
| 02:18.06 | xidaux | bob2: double precision mantissa or regular ? |
| 02:18.10 | supsup | Hi, I messed up on xserver-xfree86 package config. Can I get back that configuration program and not have to edit it by hand? I've tried removing and reinstalling doesn't work. |
| 02:18.15 | bob2 | HanClinto: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc looks promising |
| 02:18.17 | HanClinto | bob2: But since I guess a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, perhaps I should just say I'm running sid. :) |
| 02:18.21 | bob2 | HanClinto: try removing -nolisten |
| 02:18.41 | bob2 | HanClinto: it appears to depend on how X is started |
| 02:18.48 | bob2 | xidaux: factoring, of course it's integers |
| 02:18.50 | HanClinto | bob2: Thx, you rock. :) I was looking in the startx script and not finding anything. Thanks -- that looks like it |
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| 02:19.03 | vali | supsup: did u try with --purge ? |
| 02:19.09 | bob2 | HanClinto: e.g. if you're using gdm, then I guess /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf |
| 02:19.24 | bob2 | Chiko_Medina: what did you do to mysql? |
| 02:19.27 | Draconicus | bob2: Months and months ago, unstable somehow ended up in my package source list. I think some bastard told me I could put it there and it would be okay for testing. Now everything has slowly gone to hell, and now I know why. Please, tell me how I can get to Etch. |
| 02:19.27 | xidaux | bob2: Ever think about sterlization ? Do you paint the sky orange in personal artistic paintings ? |
| 02:19.29 | bob2 | Chiko_Medina: or are you not running sarge? |
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| 02:19.35 | supsup | also should I use x.org or something besides xfree86? I thought x.org was the newst. vali, no I didn't. apt-get remove --purge xserver-xfree86? |
| 02:19.50 | bob2 | Draconicus: you can't without reinstalling, sorry |
| 02:19.51 | _Raptor_ | crispynix-v6: no |
| 02:19.53 | dak | packages.debian.org DRACONICUS |
| 02:19.56 | _Raptor_ | crispynix-v6: same again |
| 02:20.01 | yarko | how to fix ypbind to don't open sockets to different ports? tiger is complaining... |
| 02:20.02 | dak | yeah u are screwd |
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| 02:20.13 | _Raptor_ | i just want to know the problem the script has |
| 02:20.20 | bob2 | Draconicus: you could just point it at etch and wait for it to catch up with you |
| 02:20.26 | jose | my friends are we a a idea about my problem ? |
| 02:20.31 | dak | in 4 years bob2 |
| 02:20.31 | bob2 | Draconicus: also, don't beliebe people who suggest things that sound silly to you |
| 02:20.32 | dak | haha |
| 02:20.46 | deadcat | bob2: dont think he can wait for over a month for all the stuff to catch up (= |
| 02:20.51 | bisk | no comments about firewall sarge with pppoe? Nothing different from woody? |
| 02:20.54 | vali | yes, x.org is newer... but i dont know why to change if xfree works for you |
| 02:20.55 | bob2 | Draconicus: also, you didn't have to keep upgrading |
| 02:20.58 | Draconicus | bob2: It didn't sound too odd... I didn't realize at the time that the packages defined the version. |
| 02:21.15 | supsup | well I have a new format so if there's no reason not to upgrade that'd be better. |
| 02:21.17 | Draconicus | bob2: I thought it would fix the problems.. upgrading.. |
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| 02:21.42 | jose | my friends i need a hlop about squirreal |
| 02:21.51 | akros | alguno de ustedes habla español |
| 02:21.53 | jose | please help me |
| 02:21.59 | deadcat | vali: ya. xfree works better on my ppc than xorg. viva el xfree |
| 02:22.14 | akros | necesito una direccion ftp para poder bajar programas |
| 02:22.18 | gravity | Oh yeah. That'll viva for a long time. |
| 02:22.24 | Draconicus | There's a #debian-spanish, isn't there? |
| 02:22.27 | bob2 | Draconicus: er |
| 02:22.32 | bob2 | #debian-es |
| 02:22.35 | Draconicus | Ah. |
| 02:22.36 | supsup | k i go try that, thank you |
| 02:22.46 | bob2 | Draconicus: well, I guess you learnt your lesson now, sorry there isn't a simpler solution |
| 02:22.49 | HanClinto | bob2: SWEET! Thanks! It worked, you rock. :) |
| 02:22.56 | ThreeM | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.59 | Draconicus | I wish I could find out who told me to use unstable. |
| 02:23.07 | Draconicus | I'll check my xchat logs at some point... |
| 02:23.15 | gravity | Yeah, this is not the best time to be in unstable. |
| 02:23.21 | jose | my friends when i try to open the url http://localhost/squirrelmail, return the |
| 02:23.21 | jose | message `is of type application;x-httpd-php, and Mozilla does not know how to handle this file:this file is locate at http://localhos how i correct this problem? |
| 02:23.24 | gravity | Although it's definitely not as bad as people are making it out to be |
| 02:23.45 | bob2 | jose: configure apache to use php4 |
| 02:23.47 | Draconicus | Yeah, but they don't have an awful, ungodly combination of Sarge, Etch, and Sid. |
| 02:23.54 | jose | bob2 |
| 02:23.58 | Draconicus | I mean older Sarge packages, by the way. |
| 02:23.59 | Chiko_Medina | bob2 i run sarge |
| 02:24.01 | ThreeM | thanks for the help earlier when i was trying to figure out everything |
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| 02:24.20 | jose | bob2 how i confiure ? |
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| 02:24.23 | ThreeM | i got one more question before i go any of you have any recommendations for a good C++ compiler |
| 02:24.30 | bob2 | jose: I don't know, what version of apache are you using? |
| 02:24.30 | gravity | g++ |
| 02:24.34 | bob2 | ThreeM: everyone uses g++ |
| 02:24.38 | ThreeM | k |
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| 02:24.41 | Draconicus | How can I know if my base packages are now unstable ones? |
| 02:24.46 | secher | Ok, I moved the 2.6.8 module for ndiswrapper to 2.6.11, which is the kernel I'm running. I did an insmod ndiswrapper.ko and get returned insmod: error inserting 'ndiswrapper.ko': -1 Invalid module format help? |
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| 02:24.49 | Chiko_Medina | Server version: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) |
| 02:24.49 | Chiko_Medina | Server built: May 11 2005 09:31:58 |
| 02:24.51 | Chiko_Medina | bob2 |
| 02:25.06 | bob2 | Draconicus: apt-show-versions |
| 02:25.10 | ThreeM | aight later guys. thx again |
| 02:25.26 | bob2 | secher: er, you'll have to recompile that for your new kernel |
| 02:25.32 | jose | bob2 how comand a see the version about apache |
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| 02:25.46 | bob2 | jose: you don't know which one you installed? |
| 02:25.53 | secher | bob2: it's from a deb package. |
| 02:26.09 | jose | bob2 i see |
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| 02:26.31 | jose | apache 1.3.33.6 this is the version about my Apache |
| 02:26.42 | secher | ahah, there is no ndiswrapper for 2.6.11, only 2.6.8, grumble. |
| 02:26.50 | jose | how i configure php4? |
| 02:27.16 | jose | i aww but i dont know the configuration in httpd.conf |
| 02:27.20 | bob2 | !+info libapache-mod-php4 sarge |
| 02:27.23 | deadcat | secher: just compile it yourself. there apt-get'able sources |
| 02:27.24 | dpkg | libapache-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-15 (sarge), Packaged size: 1576 kB, Installed size: 3095 kB |
| 02:27.32 | bob2 | jose: read /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-php4/README |
| 02:27.37 | bob2 | or README.Debian or whatever |
| 02:27.47 | jose | i use sarge |
| 02:27.57 | bob2 | indeed |
| 02:28.08 | Chiko_Medina | bob2 ? |
| 02:28.23 | bob2 | Chiko_Medina: ? |
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| 02:30.33 | Draconicus | According to Synaptic, my base-files package is out of date. 3.1.3. What's the current testing package? |
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| 02:30.47 | bob2 | packages.debian.org/base-files |
| 02:31.01 | bob2 | please trust me that a downgrade will be extremely painful |
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| 02:32.01 | Draconicus | If the base packages work, I think I can rig up something where I uninstall all existing packages, change the source lists, then install them all from a file I saved, one by one via a line-by-line script of some kind.. |
| 02:32.16 | Chiko_Medina | bob2: Can't locate API module structure `mod_auth_mysql' in file /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_mysql.so ? |
| 02:32.24 | weilawei | Hi.. I've got a 1 GB usb 2.0 stick here and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to start for making it essentially a bootable Live-USBSTickThingy |
| 02:32.37 | bob2 | Draconicus: how do you plan to downgrade dpkg? |
| 02:32.41 | maher | Draconicus: ? it would probably be easier to reinstall |
| 02:32.49 | bob2 | Chiko_Medina: yes, I saw your error the first 4 times |
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| 02:33.17 | Draconicus | Hooray. My base-files package is at testing level. Let's see where dpkg is... |
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| 02:33.53 | Draconicus | dpkg is also at testing level. |
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| 02:34.07 | Jamsi | Just wondering how I can block email from a certain user in exim4 ? |
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| 02:34.36 | Draconicus | Vital packages such as dpkg and base-files are still at testing status. Will my plan work now? |
| 02:34.42 | bob2 | #exim might be a better place to ask |
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| 02:35.50 | litage | what's the difference between ttyX and vc/X ? |
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| 02:36.32 | secher | apt test |
| 02:36.32 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
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| 02:37.26 | MrWh1t3 | Thinking about switching from fedora and was wondering some actual users of debian |
| 02:37.30 | secher | why do I like apt better than dpkg? I think it's because I like a girl with attitude. |
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| 02:37.51 | secher | MrWh1t3: what were you wondering? |
| 02:37.58 | weilawei | MrWh1t3, Whatcha wondering? |
| 02:38.04 | secher | apt you have good attitude. |
| 02:38.11 | secher | apt botsnack |
| 02:38.11 | apt | secher: aw, gee |
| 02:38.32 | mdh | !tell secher about msg the bots |
| 02:38.46 | MrWh1t3 | I am looking at getting into wireless security and I am just trying to find an os that will best suit me |
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| 02:39.06 | fortysixand2 | wireless security is kind of an oxymoron |
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| 02:39.20 | secher | mdh no need to tell me, but even bots need some love every now and again. |
| 02:39.26 | maher | MrWh1t3: all the distros should basically be the same from that point of view |
| 02:39.39 | Draconicus | What other packages absolutely cannot be removed, period? Am I missing some? |
| 02:39.47 | weilawei | MrWh1t3, Don't know about wireless and security on Debian.. I just use it as a nice development desktop. Boot up Phlak if you're going to a conference. |
| 02:40.35 | lin_nicks | does anyone know why Gaimwas removed? |
| 02:40.43 | weilawei | gaim was removed? |
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| 02:41.04 | gravity | lin_nicks: gcc4 transition. There's an issue with aspell which will be fixed soon enough |
| 02:41.14 | lin_nicks | yeah... i did an upgrade, and gaim-common was removed |
| 02:41.20 | weilawei | as far as I know it's still in the repos.. if you're running unstable right now it doesn't seem to like a lot of things, including gaim and vlc |
| 02:41.22 | lin_nicks | ok cool |
| 02:41.25 | lin_nicks | thankx |
| 02:41.44 | lin_nicks | i appreciate your help |
| 02:41.47 | gravity | No problem |
| 02:41.49 | Draconicus | Has everyone who considered being helpful died or what? It's a simple question.. |
| 02:41.56 | maher | lin_nicks: try rebuilding it or install older packages of stuff from snapshot.debianorg |
| 02:41.59 | bob2 | Draconicus: please stop being so obnocious |
| 02:42.02 | bob2 | er, obnoxious |
| 02:42.05 | Draconicus | Sorry.. |
| 02:42.10 | maher | Draconicus: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:42.11 | bob2 | you fucked up, stop demanding help |
| 02:42.34 | findme | ~heaven |
| 02:42.34 | apt | heaven is, like, Working for Open Source projects and getting paid for it |
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| 02:42.48 | deadcat | bob2: good comment (= |
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| 02:43.00 | mdh | weilawei: dependencies |
| 02:43.09 | foo | How can I watch a quicktime movie in firefox on debian? |
| 02:43.26 | licued | hey |
| 02:43.29 | licued | when I'm mounting a drive |
| 02:43.32 | licued | that's NTFS |
| 02:43.39 | deadcat | !tell licued about enter |
| 02:43.58 | licued | hahah okay I got you ;) |
| 02:44.01 | secher | MrWhite: I've run RH enterprise, fedora, Debian, and one or 2 others. I'm still here because of a very few important resons; I like the rabid adherence to open source ideals by the Debian community, I like the Debian community, I like apt and her derivitaves, I like the stability of Debian, and Debian simply offers a better "feel" than other distros. Sort of like Angelina Jolie... you know she can make you question your manhood, |
| 02:44.06 | deadcat | licued: no you didnt. |
| 02:44.17 | gravity | heh |
| 02:44.18 | Draconicus | maher: Since I have an ugly combination of testing and unstable packages for reasons I don't want to repeat, I have a nightmare debian. I found that dpkg and the base-files package I have installed are both at the testing release version. To avoid an entire reinstallation, couldn't I remove all packages but those two and install the proper testing ones? |
| 02:44.23 | licued | yes I did :P |
| 02:44.25 | Draconicus | That cut off, most likely... |
| 02:44.29 | deadcat | i got him. before he finish his question (= |
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| 02:44.49 | gravity | Draconicus: If you don't have a lot of unstable packages, you can download them individually and install them by hand |
| 02:44.59 | licued | when I'm mounting the drive that's NTFS, the proper command would be mount -t NTFS /dev/hda1 /mnt/NTFS1 |
| 02:45.08 | licued | don't I have to set the permissions though? |
| 02:45.08 | maher | Draconicus: unstable is probably a bit long in the tooth for you to want to do a downgrade - why not just dump dpkg --get-selections and reinstall |
| 02:45.14 | secher | cd . |
| 02:45.15 | secher | cd .. |
| 02:45.18 | secher | whoops..sorry. |
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| 02:45.23 | deadcat | licued: man mount, uid= |
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| 02:45.56 | maher | Draconicus: apt-show-versions will tell you how much stuff you would have to downgrade |
| 02:46.05 | humbolt | what is your prefered journaling file system and why? |
| 02:46.15 | licued | osm |
| 02:46.15 | gravity | ext3 because it's dead easy |
| 02:46.19 | Draconicus | maher: I never wanted unstable in the first place. Some moron said I could put unstable servers in my package source list and still have testing with a few bugs.. |
| 02:46.21 | licued | err, isn't it umask? |
| 02:46.30 | deadcat | humbolt: i dont know. |
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| 02:46.50 | gravity | Draconicus: It is possible, but it requires a lot of care |
| 02:47.13 | gravity | It's usually easier to just run unstable or testing. A lot easier. |
| 02:47.35 | Draconicus | I know. |
| 02:47.46 | gravity | I swear a good chunk of the problems we get in here are from people mix and matching unstable, testing, and stable |
| 02:47.46 | TTimo | what were the moved machines usually handling ( newraff and newsamosa ) ? |
| 02:47.50 | deadcat | Draconicus: if its too much hassle try ubuntu |
| 02:47.58 | Draconicus | This was only a few months into me using ANY Linux version. I shouldn't have trusted him, even though he was from this channel. |
| 02:48.00 | gravity | TTimo: ftp-master, db.debian.org, buildd.debian.org, etc |
| 02:48.01 | bob2 | TTimo: ftp-master and the debian ldap directory |
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| 02:48.04 | deadcat | TTimo: incoming |
| 02:48.04 | Wyzard | Draconicus: You can, if you configure apt to stick with testing by default |
| 02:48.07 | TTimo | ok |
| 02:48.14 | Draconicus | deadcat: It's really not. I'm just having hell because of this unstable stuff. I have no problem using testing. |
| 02:48.17 | TTimo | so that's why none of the mirrors update anymore |
| 02:48.17 | Wyzard | Draconicus: APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 02:48.26 | Wyzard | Draconicus: in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 02:48.33 | deadcat | Draconicus: didnt we tell you to reinstall? |
| 02:48.47 | TTimo | anyone know ETAs on things coming back up in working order? |
| 02:48.49 | humbolt | how is lvm in combination with journaling filesystems? |
| 02:48.50 | Draconicus | Yes, but I'd like to avoid that. Won't that require backing up files? |
| 02:48.59 | pengo_ | what is the difference between a .deb and a .udeb? |
| 02:49.01 | deadcat | TTimo: any day now. |
| 02:49.09 | TTimo | deadcat: cool. thks |
| 02:49.17 | Wyzard | humbolt: LVM doesn't care about what filesystem you put on top of it |
| 02:49.18 | deadcat | pengo_: .udeb == ubuntu deb? (= |
| 02:49.27 | Draconicus | I was going to suggest that. |
| 02:49.28 | maher | Draconicus: you need to back up anyway |
| 02:49.33 | licued | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.38 | gravity | pengo_: The latter is for debian-installer and generally doesn't have to follow policy as a result of special needs of the installer |
| 02:49.39 | licued | what's wrong with this? |
| 02:49.41 | deadcat | TTimo: fedex shipping (= |
| 02:49.46 | pengo_ | gravity, thanks |
| 02:49.47 | gravity | pengo_: Other than that, it's a normal .deb |
| 02:49.47 | TTimo | lol |
| 02:49.48 | Draconicus | maher: With my plan, why would I need to back things up if I'm not deleting config and such? |
| 02:50.10 | humbolt | Wyzard: I know, I am only worried about performance |
| 02:50.12 | Draconicus | I need to go buy CD-Rs if I want to back up everything on here, and some of it won't burn because of a weird k3b error. |
| 02:50.17 | gravity | The "u" is like a "mu", as in "microdeb" |
| 02:50.28 | Wyzard | humbolt: I've used reiserfs and XFS on LVM and they seem fine to me |
| 02:50.36 | pengo_ | gravity, thought that might be the case |
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| 02:50.56 | pengo_ | gravity, but i couldn't work out the diff |
| 02:51.11 | Draconicus | I don't have the physical storage to back my files at the moment. |
| 02:51.18 | gravity | pengo_: Yep, there isn't a huge diff. It's just customized for d-i |
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| 02:51.30 | coywolf | how to delete all files but foo? |
| 02:51.34 | Draconicus | I have a couple harddrives... I suppose I could use those... |
| 02:51.44 | bob2 | coywolf: use a decent shell |
| 02:51.45 | deadcat | coywolf: cp foo /tmp/ && rm -rf dir |
| 02:51.51 | bob2 | then rm *~foo |
| 02:52.22 | maher | Draconicus: why not grab a spare partition and debootstrap stable into it - then set it up as you like - then use it as your main install |
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| 02:52.37 | deadcat | bob2: is *~blah a shell thing? |
| 02:52.53 | bob2 | yes |
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| 02:53.01 | bob2 | it expands to "everything but foo" |
| 02:53.13 | deadcat | bob2: bash dont work |
| 02:53.25 | bob2 | 12:51:42 bob2 | coywolf: use a decent shell |
| 02:53.27 | bob2 | ;p |
| 02:53.30 | deadcat | bob2: (= |
| 02:53.35 | deadcat | damnit |
| 02:53.45 | harfooz | hi all -- my ps2pdf is creating A4 sized pdf files, but I need them to be letter. Is there a configuration file for ps2pdf? |
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| 02:54.12 | dondelelcaro | harfooz: you need to set your paper size appropriately. edit /etc/papersize |
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| 02:54.27 | harfooz | thanks dondelelcaro! |
| 02:54.30 | dondelelcaro | harfooz: man papersize; if you're confused. |
| 02:54.37 | litage | what's the deal with the wheel user group? |
| 02:54.42 | dondelelcaro | litage: what about it? |
| 02:54.44 | gravity | litage: It's a BSD thing |
| 02:54.59 | bob2 | litage: the su info page has a rant by rms about it |
| 02:55.00 | zu22 | any grep gurus here? i have a rather large text file (20 MB) and i wish to find all the email addresses in it, but there also other many occurrences of @ which are not associated with any email addresses so just grepping on "@" produces over 500,000 hits. any suggestions? |
| 02:55.07 | litage | thanks bob2 |
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| 02:55.24 | dondelelcaro | zu22: matching valid e-mail addresses is a non-trivial task. |
| 02:55.28 | bob2 | the regexp for a valid email address is like 20 lines long |
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| 02:55.44 | gravity | And it's not even bulletproof, iirc |
| 02:55.54 | secher | can't he at least narrow it down with -v? |
| 02:55.55 | dondelelcaro | gravity: well, it parses everything save recursive comments. |
| 02:56.03 | gravity | geez |
| 02:56.10 | dondelelcaro | zu22: your best bet is to grep for @ or similar, then parse those results on to perl script running the appropriate regex. |
| 02:56.21 | litage | bob2: `info su` seems to give the same information as `man su`, which doesn't contain any mention of 'wheel' |
| 02:56.25 | dondelelcaro | gravity: I really, really, really hope no one is using recursive RFC2822 comments |
| 02:56.32 | bob2 | litage: well, I have it |
| 02:56.34 | coywolf | bob2, is bash ok? |
| 02:56.34 | harfooz | dondelelcaro, that fixed my papersize problem -- thank you very, very much! |
| 02:56.37 | zu22 | dondelelcaro: ah yeah i'm starting to realize that ;) ok, guess no off the shelf solution i will have to do regex script. thx for input |
| 02:56.42 | bob2 | litage: it's in the coreutils info file |
| 02:56.49 | dondelelcaro | litage: 22.5.1 Why GNU `su' does not support the `wheel' group |
| 02:56.53 | bob2 | coywolf: no, it doesn't support that |
| 02:56.55 | litage | thanks |
| 02:56.56 | golly | Can anyone recommend this book? -- Beginning Linux Programming, Third Edition |
| 02:56.57 | afabian | zu22, [wordboundarythingy][a-zA-Z]+@[a-zA-Z]+\.[a-z]\{3}[wordboundarythingy] |
| 02:56.57 | golly | by Neil Matthew, Richard Stones, Alan Cox |
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| 02:57.11 | gravity | golly: I have the 2nd ed. It's all right. |
| 02:57.16 | gravity | Not great though. |
| 02:57.16 | afabian | zu22, adjust as appropriate. i always have to look up actual syntax. |
| 02:57.17 | humbolt | what are the reserved blocks in ext3 setup for? |
| 02:57.18 | coywolf | bob2, what supports that? |
| 02:57.23 | golly | gravi |
| 02:57.24 | mdh | zu22: think about the problem a little more... it's not just @ you want to look for, but the valid characters that appear immediately before and after it |
| 02:57.25 | bob2 | coywolf: zsh |
| 02:57.25 | zu22 | afabian: thx :) |
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| 02:57.31 | secher | golly: I can't recommend the book, but alan cox is almost a net.god. |
| 02:57.33 | mdh | zu22: including a . followed by more valid characters |
| 02:57.33 | Dr_Melectaus | Has anyone got any links to installing ut2k3 on ubuntu. ive been looking around for a few hours and i cant seem to find anything of use |
| 02:57.36 | zu22 | mdh: ah yes |
| 02:57.38 | golly | gravity: whoops.....sorry...how about for a noob? |
| 02:57.43 | lildude | i need light office package for fluxbox |
| 02:57.49 | secher | golly: I've never read it, which is why I can't recommend it... |
| 02:57.53 | gravity | golly: Well, it's more like a collection of a lot of tutorials on things. |
| 02:58.01 | golly | secher: yeah, I gather that from my research |
| 02:58.05 | gravity | golly: So I guess it's good for that, but it won't teach you C or anything. |
| 02:58.16 | golly | gravity: cool........just what I need......lots of step by step instructs |
| 02:58.19 | gravity | golly: You can learn a lot of the same stuff from free docs |
| 02:58.21 | dondelelcaro | Dr_Melectaus: #ubuntu |
| 02:58.26 | mdh | zu22: I think rfc2821 will give you the bnf of what's valid |
| 02:58.41 | golly | gravity: yeah I know but I like an actually book instead of online docs |
| 02:58.47 | zu22 | mdh: thanks a lot, will check it out |
| 02:58.49 | Dr_Melectaus | dondelelcaro, who said i was useing ubuntu? |
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| 02:58.57 | secher | Wow, dell inspirons really heat up when doing a kernel compile. <grin> |
| 02:59.13 | licued | mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/NTFS2 |
| 02:59.13 | mdh | Dr_Melectaus: you did |
| 02:59.16 | findme | secher, lattitude's are better |
| 02:59.17 | gravity | golly: Yeah, if you want a real book it's not bad. I outgrew it really fast. |
| 02:59.18 | licued | what's wrong with that? |
| 02:59.18 | fortysixand2 | secher: you get ndiswrapper working? |
| 02:59.19 | dondelelcaro | Dr_Melectaus: you did. |
| 02:59.21 | golly | gravity: the other thing is that a good book summarises a lot of online stuff which I wouldn't know how to summarise |
| 02:59.29 | mtnman | hey don |
| 02:59.32 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: sup |
| 02:59.35 | golly | gravity: you a coder by trade? |
| 02:59.41 | gravity | golly: Nope |
| 02:59.50 | Dr_Melectaus | eh? dondelelcaro, mdh please quote where i said that? |
| 02:59.54 | emRick | what is that KDE widget that will toggle the screen resolution? |
| 02:59.54 | mdh | secher: what model have you got? |
| 02:59.57 | gravity | Dr_Melectaus: Dude, read scrollback |
| 02:59.59 | bob2 | '12:57:31 Dr_Melectaus | Has anyone got any links to installing ut2k3 on ubuntu' |
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| 03:00.02 | gravity | Dr_Melectaus: We all saw you |
| 03:00.09 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Heh, nice |
| 03:00.15 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: xxxcellent work (= |
| 03:00.18 | secher | fortysixand2: I have to build the module from source, and for that I need a kernel build, so I'm doing that now.. I'll let you know when I reach that point if you're still logged in. |
| 03:00.35 | fortysixand2 | secher: cool. lemme know! |
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| 03:01.08 | mdh | secher: what model inspiron have you got (just curious) |
| 03:01.09 | Dr_Melectaus | why did you kick me |
| 03:01.10 | golly | gravity: so you WERE a noob before you got the book? |
| 03:01.16 | gravity | golly: Not really |
| 03:01.19 | deadcat | Dr_Melectaus: because they gave me op (= |
| 03:01.22 | secher | fortysixand2: between the gentoo docs and the ndis wiki, I seem to be in pretty good shape though.. I'm hopeful. |
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| 03:01.35 | golly | gravity: ok cool.....appreciate the feedback |
| 03:01.39 | fortysixand2 | cool. good luck! |
| 03:01.44 | gravity | golly: No problem |
| 03:01.44 | dondelelcaro | Dr_Melectaus: again, #ubuntu is OT here. If you want to argue about it, you will be banned. |
| 03:02.16 | litage | quick question posted: http://rafb.net/paste/results/shWcRx19.html |
| 03:02.20 | Dr_Melectaus | argue about what? i asked a fucking question- no need to loose hair over it |
| 03:02.31 | deadcat | Dr_Melectaus: too late |
| 03:02.31 | bob2 | Dr_Melectaus: please stop it |
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| 03:02.59 | mdh | heh. AOL. figures. |
| 03:03.03 | Andares | Er.. |
| 03:03.14 | Andares | Why is he +q'd? |
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| 03:03.38 | TTimo | pff you guys are touchy |
| 03:03.41 | mdh | Andares: to quote dondelelcaro of a few seconds ago, "if you want to argue about it, you will be banned" |
| 03:03.46 | secher | Justice on #debian, swift and complete. <grin> |
| 03:03.57 | Andares | mdh, Ah. |
| 03:04.01 | maher | litage: i would recommend not playing with pam unless you understand what changes you are making - its easy to lock yourself out... |
| 03:04.06 | Andares | secher, I believe you mean <grin /> |
| 03:04.27 | mdh | Dr_Melectaus: please do not whine to me in privmsg. I am not an op here. |
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| 03:05.09 | zu22 | mdh: hehe AOHell |
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| 03:05.19 | secher | TTimo: the signal to noise ratio is bad enough with my ramblings, no need to add. <grin> Even if I do think don was a little quick on the trigger there.. (/me ducks) |
| 03:05.46 | gravity | Dude, the guy is outright lying about not using Ubuntu |
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| 03:05.58 | benh | hello all |
| 03:06.02 | TTimo | well maybe he was trying to set it up for a friend or somethn |
| 03:06.03 | dondelelcaro | eh, he's been dealt with already; let it go. |
| 03:06.04 | deadcat | gravity: its ok. hes shut now |
| 03:06.08 | deadcat | hey benh |
| 03:06.22 | gravity | TTimo: Doesn't matter. Those questions don't belong here. |
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| 03:06.35 | secher | and falls. |
| 03:06.53 | zu22 | Ubuntu + AOL user = dream luser hehe sorry :) |
| 03:06.56 | benh | I know this is a bit OT but does any one know if theres any way using imagemagick to find the color of a pixel in an image |
| 03:07.01 | Draconicus | Alright, what should I do? You know my problem, and you think the best solution is to reinstall. I'd like to do that anyway so that I might choose better partition space. What do I need to back up to get apps running exactly as they are now, apart from the broken stuff. |
| 03:07.03 | benh | if there is a better chan please let me know |
| 03:07.04 | Draconicus | ?* |
| 03:07.04 | secher | Hey, has anyone heard from ElectricElf recently? |
| 03:07.09 | mdh | dondelelcaro: he's continually whining to me in privmsg, just had to put the poor sucker on /ignore |
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| 03:07.11 | benh | I cant find an imagemagick chan |
| 03:07.33 | deadcat | i wonder if this benh is the same benh that does the ppc kernel stuff! |
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| 03:07.50 | emag | are either newraff or newsamosa in the http.us.debian.org rotation? |
| 03:07.50 | mdh | like I had anything to do with them being +q'd |
| 03:07.56 | zu22 | secher: electricelf <~david@ElectricElf.developer.debian> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9d 5h 3m 23s ago, |
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| 03:08.04 | gravity | benh: gimp won't work for you? |
| 03:08.07 | mdh | emag: newsamosa used to be |
| 03:08.13 | mwilson | I think he wants to do it programmatically. |
| 03:08.24 | gravity | gimp can be scripted I suppose... |
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| 03:08.25 | dondelelcaro | mdh: you can just /ignore foousr MSGS; or /umode +E |
| 03:08.27 | secher | benh: you don't by anychance know a hudgins or harrison do you? |
| 03:08.47 | Area-51 | i just bought the new static-x cd and im trying to rip it to my compy and grip cant read it and when i try to mount it the laser in my cd drive moves back n forth trying to read it... anyone know how i can bypass this annoying protection? (debian testing) |
| 03:08.47 | mwilson | I suppose you could convert the graphic to an xpm, and then read the result. |
| 03:08.48 | mdh | dondelelcaro: I'm seriously considering the +E thing, we're getting so many idiots these days |
| 03:08.49 | secher | zu22: duh, it's been so long since I've been on here I forgot that little utility, thanks. |
| 03:08.50 | dondelelcaro | (well, in this case, that won't help, but whatever) |
| 03:08.57 | emag | mdh: ok, that *might* explain all the xorg 404s i'm getting. or there's a new system that's not synched yet |
| 03:09.00 | Area-51 | i just want to backup my bloody cd so i dont ruin the original :( |
| 03:09.01 | mdh | dondelelcaro: I did /ignore -replies user ALL ;) |
| 03:09.02 | solefald | lo all... looks like my sarge box is hosed. tar and ls -l segfault. ls without any options works fine. if i do strace the last thing i see is clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, <unfinished ...> |
| 03:09.04 | benh | gravity: it has to be CLI for an automated script |
| 03:09.06 | Chris62vw | what's a good p2p client I can use for trading files that is in apt? thanks |
| 03:09.14 | benh | secher: nope sorry |
| 03:09.14 | solefald | does someone know wtf is going on? |
| 03:09.16 | gravity | hrm |
| 03:09.28 | mwilson | Chris62vw: Don't your pirate buddies have anything to recommend? |
| 03:09.30 | dondelelcaro | Chris62vw: apt-cache search is your friend. |
| 03:09.34 | deadcat | benh == ben hengst |
| 03:09.42 | Chris62vw | mwilson, pirate buddies? |
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| 03:09.46 | eleusis | g'day |
| 03:09.50 | Chris62vw | mwilson, what makes you think I want to do illegal things? |
| 03:10.02 | black13 | anyone having problem getting debs from ftp.us.debian.org |
| 03:10.04 | dondelelcaro | benh: compare probably has it; however, you'll have to troll through the manpage |
| 03:10.08 | solefald | cant upgrade any packages either. apt-get uses tar and tar segfaults. please help |
| 03:10.14 | mdh | Chris62vw: I think mwilson has an auto-response to the mention of the words "trading" |
| 03:10.15 | deadcat | benh: your plan dont make profit. you loose $. |
| 03:10.16 | eleusis | is there anything i can do to help fix the libaspell breakage in sid? |
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| 03:10.20 | Chris62vw | mdh, oh, okay |
| 03:10.23 | solefald | i see bunch of kernel exzceptions in the logs too |
| 03:10.25 | Chris62vw | blah blah trading blah |
| 03:10.29 | mwilson | eleusis: It's not broken. |
| 03:10.34 | mtnman | chris62vw: not planning on sailing the high seas and raping and plundering? |
| 03:10.39 | eleusis | um |
| 03:10.44 | benh | dondelelcaro: cool thanks |
| 03:10.48 | drac | gravity: Is Debian going to backport 'radeon' driver from X.org HEAD or just waiting for new X.org release? I'd like to use my card with AGPMode "8", and with non-rectangular mergedfb desktop. (Filed a bugreport, wish-list about this) ;P |
| 03:10.50 | benh | deadcat: oh well hua |
| 03:10.54 | Chris62vw | mtnman, my ship was detained by the US government because it's not registered :-( |
| 03:11.01 | eleusis | debian kde packages and some gnome packages that depend on libaspell are not installable |
| 03:11.01 | mwilson | eleusis: There's nothing to fix because it's not broken. KDE may need to be recompiled, but nothing is broken. |
| 03:11.12 | eleusis | it's really irritating |
| 03:11.14 | dondelelcaro | benh: I know you can do it rather trivially using libimage-imlib2-perl; if worse comes to worse, you can just write a trivial perl script to do that. |
| 03:11.15 | mdh | Chris62vw: it could be a muscle reflex auto-response ;) |
| 03:11.17 | mwilson | eleusis: Deal with it. Welcome to unstable. |
| 03:11.26 | mtnman | chris62vw: a real pirate wouldn't be registered anyhow. |
| 03:11.28 | Chris62vw | mdh, I realized just that :-) hehe |
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| 03:11.44 | Area-51 | lol |
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| 03:11.46 | benh | dondelelcaro: even better... now I just need to see if imlib2 is installed on that server =) |
| 03:11.48 | Chris62vw | mtnman, exactly. I'm thinking about stealing one of them nuclear powered subs to make up for it |
| 03:11.48 | mwilson | eleusis: <shrug> If it actually broke anything, it did it on your say-so and with your deliberate action. |
| 03:11.48 | mdh | Chris62vw: I've used azureus and bittornado.. heaps of bt clients are coming out now. just apt-get install them and try them |
| 03:11.58 | solefald | someone please help |
| 03:12.00 | licued | drac, you can use your Radeon 9600 right now , with 3D Acelleration and proper drivers at that. I am using a Radeon 9600 right now |
| 03:12.00 | Chris62vw | mdh, thanks, will do. appreciate it |
| 03:12.20 | eleusis | yes, unfortunately i wiped a heap of kde packages when trying to fix an ssh problem |
| 03:12.26 | mwilson | eleusis: Oh, I see. You're using something that's known to break, that's known to be in rapid flux, and take personal offense when it's actually going through changes. |
| 03:12.29 | dondelelcaro | benh: well, if it's not, you can "trivially" install it locally; |
| 03:12.32 | drac | licued: With AGPMode "8" and non-rectangular mergedfb dualhead ? |
| 03:12.35 | mdh | Chris62vw: in case you didn't know, you can "apt-cache search <some text>" to find packages related to that text |
| 03:12.40 | dondelelcaro | eleusis: read http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318182; and gain enlightenment |
| 03:12.41 | licued | eleusis , what was your SSH problem? |
| 03:12.44 | jimmy_ | openoffice's fonts are very boxy.. anyone else experience this problem or know of a workaround? |
| 03:12.45 | eleusis | mwilson: i'm not taking personal offense, don't jump to conclusions |
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| 03:12.54 | eleusis | licued: turns out /dev/tty had the wrong permissions |
| 03:12.57 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: relax already... |
| 03:12.59 | Draconicus | eleusis: There's a bit of a bug going around in packages right now that is making vital packages for other things required for removal. |
| 03:13.07 | mwilson | eleusis: <shrug> So undo the aspell migration. You run unstable, you *do* know how to manage your box, right? |
| 03:13.09 | licued | drac, that sounds like crazy crazy geek talk lol, I'm not really sure |
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| 03:13.12 | weilawei | okay #debian.. how do I get realplayer? I have this strong desire to listen to NPR on the computer right now. |
| 03:13.13 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 03:13.14 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@ip70-179-43-17.sd.sd.cox.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 03:13.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 03:13.15 | Area-51 | oh cheers! the basement has flooded again.... stupid rain... <random finger gestures> |
| 03:13.22 | licued | eleusis, was your problem that people weren't being able to conenct? |
| 03:13.33 | eleusis | Draconicus: yes, i saw that |
| 03:13.34 | Chris62vw | mdh, thanks. Actually, I'm pretty handy with apt-cache's search functionality. unfortunately, the results don't actually show how useful the program is, versus asking humans :-) |
| 03:13.48 | licued | drac, do you use the flgrx driver? |
| 03:13.48 | drac | licued: Basic 6.8.2 supports only up to "4" and no support for dualhead with 2 displays using different resolutions. |
| 03:13.52 | Draconicus | That might be it. :P |
| 03:13.53 | Area-51 | Chris62vw: freshmeat.net, sourceforge.net |
| 03:13.53 | drac | licued: hell no |
| 03:13.56 | black13 | deadcat: you were saying earling about being a pussycat |
| 03:13.57 | licued | why not? |
| 03:13.58 | eleusis | licued: no, ssh was refusing to give me a "Password: " prompt and only wanted me to enter my password via ssh-askpass |
| 03:13.59 | Chris62vw | Area-51, thanks |
| 03:14.06 | jimmy_ | I've come in here about once a month for three years.. back in the dorm, three years ago, my room-mate was installing debian, and he said some guy flamed him here for asking a simple question.. I said, "was it mwilson?" and he, "yea, how'd you know?" |
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| 03:14.11 | drac | licued: because it sucks, and is much slower in r200 card like 9200 ? |
| 03:14.12 | licued | eleusis : ah |
| 03:14.12 | tvn | weilawei: you can add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ deb_branch main to your sources list and apt-get it |
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| 03:14.15 | rpmx | Hi |
| 03:14.16 | Chris62vw | jimmy_, haha |
| 03:14.17 | licued | hrmm |
| 03:14.19 | weilawei | tvn, thanks a ton |
| 03:14.23 | licued | so drac, what do you use now? |
| 03:14.24 | secher | mwilson: Dude, you never change, do you? |
| 03:14.31 | licued | I use ATI default drivers |
| 03:14.35 | eleusis | licued: the 'removing all X packages' step was stupid, however |
| 03:14.38 | deadcat | black13: i didnt say anything about pussycat, i said pussy (= |
| 03:14.40 | licued | but I was thinking about switching to drac |
| 03:14.40 | drac | licued: driver "radeon", default X.Org drivers. |
| 03:14.54 | licued | ah |
| 03:15.00 | black13 | deadcat : mwilson |
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| 03:15.11 | gravity | drac: I've gotten a lot of requests to backport drivers, but I don't want to do it at this stage |
| 03:15.12 | jimmy_ | it's ok though, I love mwilson |
| 03:15.16 | licued | do you have to compile a custome kernal from scratch to instlal them? |
| 03:15.21 | jimmy_ | mwilson + jimmy = love 4 ever |
| 03:15.23 | gravity | drac: I plan to push 6.9 packages out as soon as I can make them |
| 03:15.28 | aaronlin | I'm installing a program from a binary (Real Player); where do I place the file? /usr/bin? I'm not too familiar with the directory structure for linux. |
| 03:15.28 | dondelelcaro | secher: that's not called for either. |
| 03:15.40 | deadcat | jimmy_: damn. like bobby and whitney? (= |
| 03:15.41 | gravity | drac: If it was earlier in the X.Org release cycle, I'd do the backport, but not right now |
| 03:15.47 | aaronlin | actually, I mean, where do I place the program? |
| 03:15.50 | secher | jimmy_ : I've been on and off of here for years, perhaps more than 5, and mwilson is as irascible as ever. Sort of like the Rocky Mountains, always there, unchanged, and prickly. <grin> |
| 03:16.00 | rpmx | I see in http://www.dnsstuff.com the messages : Status: Records DO NOT all match: Results from ichu.rcp.net.pe do not match results from ns.ripe.net. any domain .pe from one month ago |
| 03:16.06 | jimmy_ | deadcat: precisely |
| 03:16.10 | jimmy_ | secher: I know what you mean man |
| 03:16.17 | litage | /etc/login.defs says that failed login attempts are logged to /var/log/faillog but that file doesn't exist...? |
| 03:16.19 | drac | gravity: Ok, great.. just waiting when I can stop compiling CVS into /opt.. I have time to wait. ;) |
| 03:16.28 | mdh | secher: that's why the IRC gods gave us /ignore. If you don't want to hear from someone, put them on /ignore |
| 03:16.28 | rpmx | for example http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/traversal.ch?domain=marina.mil.pe&type=A |
| 03:16.33 | dondelelcaro | secher: again; that's completely uncalled for. I should not need to warn you again about it. |
| 03:16.40 | gravity | drac: Well, if you want to help get the 6.9 stuff in order, the help would be appreciated |
| 03:16.44 | mdh | dont whine OT-like in a channel |
| 03:17.02 | gravity | drac: It's mainly checking all the current patches, porting them or dumping them depending on whether they're needed any more |
| 03:17.24 | Draconicus | Is there a way to install packages one by one from a list in a file, where one name is on each line? |
| 03:17.27 | jimmy_ | anyway.. if anyone else has had problems with the font in openoffice, please send the solution my way. it's a little hard to read. thanks. |
| 03:17.28 | drac | gravity: I would be willing to help with that. |
| 03:17.34 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: xargs dpkg -i < foofile; |
| 03:17.48 | dondelelcaro | (or xargs apt-get --install < foofile; depending on what you're doing.) |
| 03:17.50 | gravity | drac: Cool. I've branched off 6.9 in the X Strike Force svn repo, so you could download that and get moving on the patches |
| 03:18.08 | Draconicus | Where "foofile" is the package name? |
| 03:18.12 | Draconicus | err |
| 03:18.13 | Draconicus | list name/ |
| 03:18.16 | Draconicus | ?* |
| 03:18.21 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: presumably, yes. |
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| 03:18.25 | Draconicus | 'kay. |
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| 03:18.40 | Draconicus | This requires installation of xargs, yes? |
| 03:18.56 | drac | gravity: Ah nice, i'm aware of that SVN. |
| 03:19.05 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: uh.. xargs is in coreutils... you *should* have it already. |
| 03:19.09 | mdh | Draconicus: xargs comes with one of the base packages |
| 03:19.11 | dondelelcaro | s/coreutils/findutils/ |
| 03:19.17 | secher | mdh: Oh, don't get me wrong, I *like* mwilson, he's responsible for hosing more lusers than I care to count. If you don't know what you want, or don't know the term RTFM, he is quick to seperate you from the herd, take you you out back, and shoot you. He's the shark of #debian, not always pretty, but really good at his job. I know, I've been on the receiving end more than once. |
| 03:19.17 | Aradorn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.21 | Aradorn | anyone know what that means |
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| 03:19.46 | DoppleGanger | hmmm |
| 03:19.48 | Draconicus | dondelelcaro/mdh: This will be for a reinstallation. |
| 03:19.53 | mdh | Draconicus: or is possibly a shell builtin ;) |
| 03:19.58 | solefald | can SOMEONE help me here please? my box is hosed. tar, ls, make (and probably others) segfault. i can not upgrade anything |
| 03:20.04 | welson | if a package with apt-get is mentioned to be refered by another, how do i find out what the referred one is? |
| 03:20.12 | rpmx | any ideas with the messages http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/traversal.ch?domain=marina.mil.pe&type=A --->Status: Records DO NOT all match: Results from ichu.rcp.net.pe do not match results from ns.ripe.net. ??? |
| 03:20.17 | useruser | solefald: stick a knoppix cd in a fix stuff |
| 03:20.17 | mdh | Draconicus: have you tried using --get-selections / --set-selections ? |
| 03:20.23 | useruser | *and |
| 03:20.31 | secher | solefald: what useruser said. |
| 03:20.39 | solefald | useruser: no can do. the box is sitting in the datacenter |
| 03:20.39 | Draconicus | mdh: What will that do? |
| 03:20.47 | useruser | solefald: darn |
| 03:20.57 | solefald | yeah i know :( |
| 03:21.12 | solefald | its stuck somewhere between sarge and woody |
| 03:21.30 | mdh | Draconicus: dpkg --set-selections will read a list of files from stdin to install |
| 03:21.32 | dondelelcaro | Aradorn: you don't have that library; figure out what package provides it and install it |
| 03:21.33 | solefald | and everything segfaults. apt-get does not work either because it is using tar |
| 03:21.48 | useruser | solefald: what *can* you do? |
| 03:21.49 | mdh | Draconicus: man dpkg ;) --get-selections will write to stdout a list of pkgs |
| 03:22.05 | dondelelcaro | solefald: boot off of your isntall media, and reinstall libc6, tar, dpkg, apt, and anything else you can think of; then chroot, and reinstall everything. |
| 03:22.14 | licued | just a couple days ago |
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| 03:22.35 | dondelelcaro | solefald: the --instdir and --root options of dpkg will help you install stuff. |
| 03:22.37 | licued | hey drac: so do you have to recomile the debian kernal from scratch to install those drivers? |
| 03:22.39 | solefald | useruser: pretty much everything else. apache runs fine, mysql and everything else is up and running... |
| 03:22.54 | dondelelcaro | solefald: that's probably just because they're already running |
| 03:23.03 | solefald | dondelelcaro: how would that help me? |
| 03:23.04 | secher | don: the system is in a datacenter, and he's not. |
| 03:23.19 | Draconicus | How can I feed this output directly into a file, mdh? |
| 03:23.20 | solefald | dondelelcaro: i rebooted the box 30 min ago |
| 03:23.25 | solefald | everything started just fine |
| 03:23.46 | mdh | Draconicus: with the holy grail of unix - pipes :) |
| 03:23.56 | dondelelcaro | solefald: well, the other choice is that just tar is corrupted; you can reinstall that manually rather trivially. |
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| 03:24.09 | welson | how do i find out what the referred one with apt-get? |
| 03:24.13 | mdh | Draconicus: dpkg --get-selections > here_are_my_selections |
| 03:24.13 | dondelelcaro | (but if things like ls are segfaulting, that tends to indicate that you've got a botched libc6) |
| 03:24.33 | gravity | welson: I don't understand your question |
| 03:24.34 | solefald | dondelelcaro: its not tar. i got tar from another box and it does the same. i think some of the libraries are hosed |
| 03:24.39 | useruser | welson: i don't understand your question. but maybe you want apt-cache policy packagename |
| 03:24.39 | mdh | Draconicus: you can edit that file, then dpkg --set-selections < here_are_my_selections :) |
| 03:24.57 | dondelelcaro | solefald: yes, well, libc6 is the standard culprint, or anyhthing else that ldd /usr/bin/tar spits out. |
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| 03:25.11 | dondelelcaro | s#/usr## |
| 03:25.13 | solefald | i tried to strace everything that crashes and the last like before the segfault is clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, <unfinished ...> |
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| 03:25.52 | cddesjar | where do i find a list of mirrors to use for /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:25.58 | dondelelcaro | cddesjar: just run apt-setup; |
| 03:26.02 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 03:26.02 | dpkg | well, mirrors is at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt or available via apt-setup or at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt |
| 03:26.04 | mdh | Draconicus: using xargs like dondelelcaro mentioned too is another good way |
| 03:26.06 | dondelelcaro | (or see above) |
| 03:26.16 | welson | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:26.16 | welson | is only available from another source ... E: Package <package> has no installation candidate -- I guess I was looking for a way to see if there's another candidacy.. |
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| 03:26.32 | welson | This is what apt-get shows me |
| 03:26.33 | mdh | Draconicus: xargs dpkg -i < my_files |
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| 03:26.56 | mdh | hmm.. I feel like lunch |
| 03:27.35 | solefald | sarge is 3.1 right? |
| 03:28.10 | Draconicus | So xargs (command) < (path) repeats runs app with each argument over and over, one by one from the list designated in the path after < |
| 03:28.12 | Draconicus | Nifty. |
| 03:28.27 | aradorn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:28.35 | Draconicus | Err |
| 03:28.37 | aradorn | anyone know how i might can fix this? |
| 03:28.42 | DoppleGanger | ha ah |
| 03:28.44 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: not necessarily; in the usage case I gave you, it will run one command with as many arguments as will fit on the command line. |
| 03:28.45 | DoppleGanger | hmmm |
| 03:28.51 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: info xargs; (or man xargs;) |
| 03:29.09 | aradorn | im trying to install the sun J2EE software and when i run execute the bin file it throws this error |
| 03:29.10 | De_Mon | the xargs man is not all that clear |
| 03:29.19 | Draconicus | Next question: /usr/lib and /lib files should not vary much from unstable installations to testing installations, right? |
| 03:29.26 | dondelelcaro | !+find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 03:29.28 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:29.33 | De_Mon | atleast not to someone that doesn't already know what it means :p |
| 03:29.35 | dondelelcaro | Draconicus: impossible to say. |
| 03:29.39 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' returned no results. |
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| 03:29.48 | dondelelcaro | !+find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 potato |
| 03:29.49 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:29.56 | useruser | why does dpkg say updating debian files *every time* nowadays? |
| 03:30.05 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' returned no results. |
| 03:30.18 | aradorn | looks like i gotta turn to google |
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| 03:30.33 | pulp | hey, anyone familiar with WPA@Freeradius ? |
| 03:30.39 | chealer | useruser: it's potato... |
| 03:30.41 | dondelelcaro | useruser: uh, it doesn't? |
| 03:30.46 | pulp | got some silly questions .. |
| 03:30.52 | useruser | aradorn: apt-cache search libstdc++ gives me lots of hits |
| 03:30.54 | useruser | chealer: aha |
| 03:31.10 | Draconicus | Hmm. |
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| 03:31.20 | Draconicus | Damn. I'm going to have to build my source binaries again, too.. |
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| 03:31.43 | secher | Kk, what gives. I just built and installed ndiswrapper module, tried to depmod it, no go. insmod gives me error inserting 'ndiswrapper.ko': -1 Invalid module format? Suggestions? |
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| 03:32.30 | SDFH_Linux | has gaim been fixed in unstable? |
| 03:32.39 | streuner | bts |
| 03:32.41 | gravity | SDFH_Linux: It's not gaim, it's aspell, and not yet |
| 03:32.46 | findme | secher, mine is 2.6.8 kernel, ndiwrapper rox |
| 03:32.52 | SDFH_Linux | ok gravity |
| 03:33.26 | gravity | SDFH_Linux: Once newraff and newsamosa are back online (see /topic) aspell can be re-uploaded to fix the problem |
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| 03:33.59 | SDFH_Linux | whats the timetable? |
| 03:34.02 | SDFH_Linux | approx? |
| 03:34.05 | gravity | A few days |
| 03:34.08 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 03:34.10 | streuner | Troup says nothing new, so we should guess? |
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| 03:34.15 | SDFH_Linux | thanks |
| 03:34.16 | litage | woah weird. when logging in, if i type the username in capitals, all further text written to screen, whether it be from the system or from me typing, is in capitals |
| 03:34.20 | gravity | streuner: I don't think he knows either |
| 03:34.22 | dondelelcaro | streuner: it will probably be tomorrow. |
| 03:34.29 | streuner | hm |
| 03:34.31 | dondelelcaro | but the question is; when will FedEx deliver the boxen? |
| 03:34.32 | gravity | He's human too |
| 03:34.53 | dondelelcaro | and only FedEx knows. Rather, we *hope* that FedEx knows. |
| 03:34.58 | secher | findme: but I'm not running 2.6.8, I've got 2.6.11, and ndiswrapper has no package for .11, so I had to build it, simple enough, when it works, but not in this case, which sucks. :< |
| 03:35.11 | drac | gravity: so, going thru xorg-x11-6.9/debian/patches ? |
| 03:35.18 | gravity | drac: Yep |
| 03:35.37 | gravity | drac: I wrote a tutorial on the new patch system in debian/README |
| 03:35.59 | gravity | drac: You can send patches (or drop-in replacements for current patches) to debian-x, and I'll look them over and apply them |
| 03:36.49 | drac | gravity: yeah, all is clear. I'll do what I can. ;) |
| 03:37.01 | gravity | drac: Awesome. Thank you so much! :-) |
| 03:37.06 | gravity | drac: Any help right now is a big help |
| 03:37.24 | TheMoebius | hey I just set up debian as a router and I'm having trouble with my DHCP server. eth0 is the local NIC and eth1 is connected to the internet, Its telling me "No subnet declaration for eth1 (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file. How do I tell dhcpd to run on eth0 instead of eth1? |
| 03:38.03 | benh | /quit |
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| 03:38.31 | streuner | dondelelcaro: are those pics (debconf5) now online? |
| 03:38.35 | Draconicus | The xargs dpkg -i < thing previously told will only work right if the lines contain nothing but the package name, right? |
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| 03:39.49 | dondelelcaro | streuner: which ones? there are a few dozen sites of the things |
| 03:40.00 | gravity | He wants sauna pics |
| 03:40.04 | streuner | dondelelcaro: yours |
| 03:40.16 | streuner | gravity: heh? :-) |
| 03:40.45 | dondelelcaro | I haven't uploaded mine yet, but Ralph Amissah are here: http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/2005/07_july/debconf |
| 03:41.54 | streuner | dondelelcaro: http://www.formorer.de/gallery/debconf05 |
| 03:42.27 | aradorn | woot got it workin =) |
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| 03:42.49 | wwallace | help please |
| 03:42.52 | wwallace | http://pastebin.com/320749 |
| 03:43.03 | Draconicus | I have a list of things I want to do for my reinstallation. Would somebody be willing to check it over in #flood? |
| 03:43.25 | Draconicus | After, rather... |
| 03:44.06 | secher | LOL OMG! Lesbian GNU/Linux! porn-get and all.. HAAHHAHHAHHAH... |
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| 03:44.25 | streuner | wwallace: read /topic |
| 03:44.52 | wwallace | dont understand |
| 03:44.54 | Draconicus | Also, could someone please tell me the commands to entirely reformat a second harddrive? |
| 03:45.22 | streuner | wwallace: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove those entries with 'non-us' |
| 03:45.36 | wwallace | streuner: thank u |
| 03:46.08 | Draconicus | !u |
| 03:46.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:46.49 | AlienX | lol |
| 03:46.55 | secher | that's another thing I love about the Debian community, sticklers for proper english. Bravo. |
| 03:46.59 | streuner | wwallace: why do you have 'kanotix' sources there? |
| 03:47.11 | wwallace | im running kanotix |
| 03:47.19 | AlienX | that's a good reason |
| 03:47.20 | gravity | Wrong chan |
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| 03:47.30 | secher | but I'm still getting invalid module format when I try and insmod ndiswrapper.ko.. any ideas yet? |
| 03:47.54 | levander | Say my system fails, and I can't get the hardware to work again. Is there any kind of full back-up I can do to get all my same files working on another computer? Without having to go through and reconfigure everything? |
| 03:48.20 | streuner | wwallace: you are running NOT the right distro and mixed sources from unstable and testing - pretty bad. |
| 03:48.33 | secher | only if the next computer is virtually identical to the original, as far as I know. |
| 03:48.44 | fortysixand2 | wwallace: all the non-US are deleted. remove them from your sources |
| 03:48.56 | wwallace | ok streuner thank u |
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| 03:49.15 | Draconicus | !y |
| 03:49.15 | dpkg | methinks y is http://www.y-windows.org/, or it's "why", not y. w h y. see u, any1. NOT a substitute for I. If you mean yourself in the first person use 'I' and not 'y'. |
| 03:49.17 | Draconicus | err |
| 03:49.18 | Draconicus | !u |
| 03:49.18 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:49.22 | Draconicus | Sorry. |
| 03:49.23 | dondelelcaro | secher: the error message is pretty self explanatory; you're trying to modprobe something that's not a module. |
| 03:49.44 | dondelelcaro | (or isn't a module whose format matches the currently running kernel |
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| 03:50.01 | Jamsi | !wud |
| 03:50.01 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
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| 03:51.11 | secher | don: but it is a module, or at least it's built from the ndiswrapper sources with make and make install. what makes a "module" a "module" if not being built from the sources FTPed from ftp.debian.uk.org? |
| 03:51.29 | secher | ftp.uk.debian.org rather. |
| 03:52.37 | maher | levander: i use dirvish to take daily copies of the entire fs on another hd |
| 03:52.37 | secher | deterministically speaking, you are correct, since it won't install as a module, therefore it cannot be a module, however, that's a bit narrow of a definition, I think, don't you? |
| 03:52.45 | chealer | ah, they still improved the BTS! |
| 03:52.54 | gravity | heh... "they" |
| 03:52.58 | maher | secher: look in the logs |
| 03:53.05 | chealer | yeah, the big guys |
| 03:53.09 | levander | maher: but could you put a daily copy of your fs, put it on another machine, and have it run? |
| 03:53.34 | maher | levander: most likely |
| 03:53.45 | chealer | I'd like to know who they are, but I didn't even find a webpage about them, neither a list |
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| 03:53.58 | gravity | chealer: One of them is in the chan |
| 03:54.02 | chealer | dondelelcaro: it's useless to hide |
| 03:54.04 | maher | levander: if the hw is sufficiently different it may take a bit of tweaking - if you have databases its a different kettle of fish |
| 03:54.06 | levander | maher: what about the hardware on the other machine? The device drivers will just work? |
| 03:54.22 | levander | maher: i have mysql databases |
| 03:54.25 | chealer | we know you're the culprit |
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| 03:54.45 | levander | Reason I'm asking this question is because I'm trying to decide if it's easier to backup my whole system, or just the bits I care about. |
| 03:55.06 | Dinuir | Hi, I am installing Debian Sarge. It get past network detection but when going to next step, partitioning, it fails to see my SATA Raid 0 drives (with XP loaded). I have created new partitions for debian. Any thoughts? |
| 03:55.07 | k-man | has anyone heard of memtest86+ not being compatible with some hardware? ie, memtest crashes or hangs, but the hardware is in fact know to be good? |
| 03:55.08 | maher | levander: databases need to be backed up using their own backup whatsits - if you use hotplug + generic debian kernels then there is a reasonable chance stuff will just work |
| 03:55.09 | dondelelcaro | chealer: you know, you could read the cvs logs... http://cvs.debian.org/source/cgi/bugreport.cgi?cvsroot=debbugs |
| 03:55.56 | maher | levander: i backup everything - then you have a choice... |
| 03:56.15 | chealer | dondelelcaro: aha, I figured I could at least find that. is that stuff really going to release someday? |
| 03:56.23 | levander | The advantage of the whole system would be a much easier restore, but if I have to restore it to a different machine, I'd have to still play around with the new machine to get the device drivers working i'm guessing |
| 03:56.33 | levander | plus /etc/fstab would probably be different... |
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| 03:56.52 | VonBismark | Hello! Somebody knows distro's or systems "all-in-one" like clarkconnect? With mail, dns, proxy,firewall etc... With WebBased Admin? |
| 03:57.01 | maher | levander: yes |
| 03:57.12 | dondelelcaro | chealer: you can check out those changes yourself; I've already added the last batch to b.d.o |
| 03:57.15 | gravity | VonBismark: That sounds horrible |
| 03:57.32 | VonBismark | why? |
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| 03:57.45 | secher | maher: ok, I'm an idiot. in the logs, I've found (paraphrasing) kernel: ndiswrapper: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module and kern: ndis: no vers for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted and finally kern: ndis: vers magic '2.6.11 686 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.11-1-686 686 gcc-3.3' Ok, now I really am confused.. |
| 03:57.51 | levander | maher: but, i guess if just something like the hard drive fails on my current machine, i can probably just buy a new hard drive, restore, and everything will be great?? |
| 03:57.56 | VonBismark | is to small offices.. |
| 03:58.12 | maher | secher: you need to compile modules with the same version of gcc as the kernel |
| 03:58.19 | maher | levander: yes |
| 03:58.21 | chealer | dondelelcaro: sorry, what last batch? |
| 03:59.02 | Dinuir | Hi, I am installing Debian Sarge. It get past network detection but when going to next step, partitioning, it fails to see my SATA Raid 0 drives (with XP loaded). I have created new partitions for debian. Anyone know what I'm not doing? |
| 03:59.18 | levander | maher: but no, I'll still have to install the operating sytem first, to be able to run the restore software |
| 03:59.22 | secher | maher: how do I get .. oooohhh.. I have a debian build image installed, not a manually built kernel, so my running kernel was built with gcc3.3, and I build the module with gcc 4.0, and consequently, it's a no go? |
| 03:59.41 | dondelelcaro | chealer: 1.69->1.70 |
| 03:59.44 | maher | levander: grab a boot disc and rsync the backup onto the fresh disk |
| 03:59.55 | maher | secher: yes |
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| 04:00.08 | levander | maher: ah, yeah |
| 04:00.56 | black13 | can the passwd and shadown files be transport to another system? |
| 04:01.13 | maher | black13: yes |
| 04:01.37 | black13 | maher are there some caveats? |
| 04:01.46 | black13 | about uids and guid? |
| 04:01.46 | chealer | dondelelcaro: oh, ok. I thought it was running HEAD or otherwise update all the repository at the same time |
| 04:02.11 | maher | black13: well - if the other system has users with password that will all be replaced by the users and password of the first system |
| 04:02.12 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I meant latest HEAD |
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| 04:03.47 | black13 | maher if i took a debootstrab of debian sarge but replace /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files will this work |
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| 04:04.35 | black13 | maher i am relative certain that my problem is not in the passwd file but in /etc/pam.d/ files |
| 04:04.40 | aradorn | whats the command to set the path to a specific dir? |
| 04:04.52 | maher | black13: yes - that should work |
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| 04:05.15 | Dinuir | Hi, I am installing Debian Sarge. It get past network detection but when going to next step, partitioning, it fails to see my SATA Raid 0 drives (with XP loaded). I have created new partitions for debian. Anyone know what I'm not doing? |
| 04:05.40 | black13 | maher thanks |
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| 04:05.52 | maher | Dinuir: you need a kernel with support for your sata chipset - are you using the linux26 install option? |
| 04:07.02 | Dinuir | Anyone know how to install Srage on existing Raid drive?? |
| 04:08.08 | maher | Dinuir: google: installing debian on raid |
| 04:08.36 | black13 | maher home directories need to be own by the user |
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| 04:09.01 | maher | black13: on a fresh debootstrap there are no users so you can just cp across /home |
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| 04:10.12 | black13 | maher here is the rub ... on this embedded system i want a user called "game" to be user that runs the game |
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| 04:10.57 | maher | black13: make a user called game and set all the games setuid game |
| 04:11.32 | black13 | maher ok i will research setuid |
| 04:11.46 | aradorn | how do i set the path to my JDK bin dir so i can use java/javac without being in the jdk/bin dir? |
| 04:11.51 | Dinuir | Anyone know how to install Srage on existing Raid drive?? |
| 04:12.27 | astronut | <maher> Dinuir: google: installing debian on raid |
| 04:12.34 | maher | Dinuir: did you read the first link on the google search i gave you? |
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| 04:13.25 | black13 | maher but have user called game would necessitate /home/game ... how do i "prebuild" /home/game" on a host system |
| 04:13.32 | maher | aradorn: you can set path in .bashrc amongst other places |
| 04:13.38 | glasse | Is it OK to mail a bug to submit@bugs.debian.org with an attachment? |
| 04:13.50 | maher | aradorn: if you use java-package to install java it fixes stuff like that for you |
| 04:14.01 | licued | heya, how do you find out the name of the web server a website is running? |
| 04:14.19 | maher | licued: look at the url? |
| 04:14.24 | licued | web server |
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| 04:14.30 | licued | Apache, IIS , ect |
| 04:14.34 | Dinuir | Anyone know how to install Sarge on existing Raid drive?? |
| 04:14.48 | licued | I need to find out what Web Server, OS, Platoform this server is running |
| 04:14.54 | maher | licued: oh sorry - look at the source of the web page, or the full http response |
| 04:15.05 | maher | glasse: yes |
| 04:15.14 | licued | yea I figured I could do that with HTTP RESPONSE, but I forgot how to do that |
| 04:15.28 | greyson | licued: Or check for a page that doesn't exist, and see what the 404 looks like -- most sites haven't changed the defaults. |
| 04:15.29 | glasse | maher: Whew :) |
| 04:15.38 | maher | black13: if you know what passwd will be you know the uid/gid of game so you can make a /home/dir with the right (numeric) uid / gid |
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| 04:16.32 | licued | good ovme greyson |
| 04:16.35 | licued | never knew about that one ;) |
| 04:16.44 | licued | turns out they're using IIS lol |
| 04:16.51 | licued | IIS w/ ColdFusion |
| 04:17.02 | licued | and I have to switch it over to Apache |
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| 04:17.07 | licued | on FreeBSD |
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| 04:17.08 | licued | lol |
| 04:17.14 | foo | How can I setup contrib sources? |
| 04:17.21 | greyson | licued: hehe good luck! |
| 04:17.38 | Draconicus | What bothers me is that things kind of run as they are. What were you saying about waiting for Etch to catch up with my current Sid things? |
| 04:17.52 | Draconicus | If anyone whom I previously spoke with is still here, that is... |
| 04:17.57 | streuner | foo: man sources.list |
| 04:18.19 | black13 | what is a good debian mirror |
| 04:18.19 | foo | streuner: thanks |
| 04:18.31 | licued | haha yea |
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| 04:20.09 | Draconicus | How can I format over a drive with ext3? |
| 04:20.16 | streuner | black13: /msg dpkg mirror |
| 04:20.50 | black13 | ftp.debian.org seems to be slow as crap |
| 04:20.56 | licued | hrmm |
| 04:20.59 | licued | now greyson |
| 04:21.02 | Draconicus | It's the main server. What do you expect? |
| 04:21.05 | licued | how would I find out the platform type |
| 04:21.08 | streuner | !info apt-spy |
| 04:21.10 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-13 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
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| 04:21.18 | Draconicus | Now, how do I format a harddrive with pure ext3? |
| 04:21.32 | greyson | licued: Just a guess: Windows? |
| 04:21.38 | licued | hehe yea |
| 04:21.52 | licued | but there's a way to find out more info |
| 04:21.53 | streuner | Draconicus: ext3 is basically ext2 with a journal |
| 04:22.02 | licued | I forget how to do it |
| 04:22.04 | Draconicus | Whatever. I need to format over a harddrive. |
| 04:22.04 | foo | What should I use to control sound? |
| 04:22.08 | licued | I did this shit like 2 years ago :/ |
| 04:22.14 | Draconicus | Must cleanse... must.... make empty. |
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| 04:22.40 | hygl | Draconicus: man mkfs.ext3 |
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| 04:22.56 | black13 | !info apt-spy |
| 04:22.58 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-13 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
| 04:23.17 | greyson | licued: You should be able to find the HTTP spec to do the transaction by hand, but beyond that... nmap? (if you don't get blocked for portscanning, that is) |
| 04:23.28 | licued | true |
| 04:23.44 | licued | how would I do the transaction by hand? |
| 04:23.54 | licued | not sure if I follow |
| 04:24.04 | greyson | licued: 'telnet <hostname> 80' |
| 04:24.09 | Dinuir | Anyone know how to install Sarge on existing Raid array?? |
| 04:24.26 | Draconicus | How can I determine the existing filesystem on a harddrive? |
| 04:24.38 | Draconicus | The type, that is. |
| 04:24.40 | deadcat | Draconicus: mount |
| 04:24.55 | Draconicus | deadcat: That doesn't help. Mount is what needs to know the type.. |
| 04:25.08 | Draconicus | Unless you mean try everything until it works. |
| 04:25.13 | deadcat | Draconicus: you asked the wrong question then. |
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| 04:25.32 | greyson | Draconicus: Do you have all the filesystems as modules/compiled in? |
| 04:25.34 | Draconicus | How do I determine the filesystem type on a harddrive? |
| 04:25.40 | deadcat | cfdisk |
| 04:25.44 | Draconicus | greyson: I would imagine so. |
| 04:25.52 | maher | Draconicus: sometimes file -s /dev/hda1 works |
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| 04:26.13 | Draconicus | What the hel.. OH! I already put Linux on this HD... silly me. |
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| 04:30.17 | Dinuir | Anyone know how to install Sarge on existing Raid array?? |
| 04:30.24 | deadcat | Dinuir: no |
| 04:30.26 | greyson | !anyone |
| 04:30.26 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 04:30.42 | deadcat | Dinuir: if they dont know. assume the worst |
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| 04:30.55 | bob2 | if it's a hardware raid aray, it's trivial |
| 04:30.58 | deadcat | s/know/answer/ |
| 04:30.58 | bob2 | stick sarge cd in |
| 04:31.00 | bob2 | partition raid |
| 04:31.01 | bob2 | install |
| 04:31.11 | bob2 | go drink beer while your boss thinks you're working |
| 04:31.37 | jay | does anyone know if there are any advantages of using X.org vs XFree86? |
| 04:31.47 | deadcat | jay: no |
| 04:31.55 | Dinuir | it doesn't recognise the existing raid properly (intel ICH6r software raid) |
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| 04:32.08 | bob2 | jay: better hardware support |
| 04:32.20 | dondelelcaro | Dinuir: best of luck then; software raid has spotty support at best. |
| 04:32.23 | bob2 | and some features, like composite, tho it's kinda shit still |
| 04:32.24 | jair | hello beautiful people how are you doing tday? |
| 04:33.04 | jay | I think I heard something about transparent menu support too. Has anyone else heard that? |
| 04:33.07 | jair | I was trying to install testdisk , which is a package to recover data from damage hdisks. |
| 04:33.31 | deadcat | jay: xcompmgr and transsset. not in debian yet |
| 04:33.35 | jair | guys NX or nomachine is not yet on sarge stable right? |
| 04:33.46 | jair | probably on sid or etch? |
| 04:33.49 | licued | hey |
| 04:33.52 | gravity | I've got a potential maintainer for them, who I need to ping this coming weekend to check on her progress |
| 04:33.59 | licued | what's a good FTP program for Debain with a GUI |
| 04:34.05 | gravity | licued: I like gftp |
| 04:34.09 | licued | thank you |
| 04:34.16 | deadcat | gravity: you talking about xcompmgr? |
| 04:34.20 | jair | licued, try gftp |
| 04:34.24 | gravity | deadcat: Yeah |
| 04:34.30 | deadcat | gravity: nice work (= |
| 04:34.38 | jair | gftp is very very easy to use. |
| 04:34.40 | gravity | deadcat: Thanks, although they're still kind of crap |
| 04:34.41 | deadcat | gravity: cant wait to blow my box up |
| 04:34.43 | gravity | heh |
| 04:34.50 | gravity | 7.1 should make them useable |
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| 04:35.13 | deadcat | gravity: cool. whats the ETA on 7.1? |
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| 04:35.18 | jair | guys how could I install or know that I have all the patches updates for the distro I have debian? |
| 04:35.25 | gravity | deadcat: Oh lord... I don't know realistically. |
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| 04:35.47 | deadcat | gravity: educated guess |
| 04:36.08 | gravity | deadcat: I really can't say. It's hard for me to read where the modular effort is at, and 7.0 won't ship until then |
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| 04:36.20 | deadcat | k |
| 04:36.22 | karsten | So, what's a good sound server these days? |
| 04:36.23 | karsten | deadcat: Oi. |
| 04:36.25 | jair | I know is a command on the terminal that tells you the version of debian you are running I think is something like -> cat /etc/linux_ver |
| 04:36.26 | bob2 | they all suck |
| 04:36.27 | jair | ? |
| 04:36.28 | sadfgg | My USB mouse work in the kernel that comes with the installation but not in my 2.6 kernel (it has USB support), how can I fix this? |
| 04:36.29 | ramzez | no upgrade for several days. Is there any problem ? |
| 04:36.33 | karsten | deadcat: Greetings from cabal hq. |
| 04:36.34 | bob2 | jair: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:36.42 | jair | bob2, thank you very much |
| 04:36.48 | karsten | bob2: Which one sucks least? |
| 04:36.50 | gravity | I'm pretty much focused on geting 6.8 cleaned up. Then on to 6.9 work. Then on to 7.0. 7.1 is waaaaay off in the distance |
| 04:37.00 | bob2 | karsten: esd seems to have more support |
| 04:37.03 | bob2 | but I don't use kde |
| 04:37.25 | dupondje | hi guys, i got a shitty problem, need to get my Sata controller working on linux (RocketRaid 2220), there are drivers availible from highpoint on their site, but i get error on compile |
| 04:37.26 | dupondje | /root/rr2220-linux-src-1.0/osm/linux/osm_linux.c:465: warning: implicit declaration of function `scsi_to_pci_dma_dir' |
| 04:37.29 | karsten | bob2: esd is kde? |
| 04:37.36 | deadcat | karsten: what you doing thtere? its monday. |
| 04:37.39 | karsten | bob2: I thought it had something to do with enlightenment. |
| 04:37.43 | karsten | deadcat: Working. |
| 04:37.51 | deadcat | karsten: on what? |
| 04:38.22 | karsten | deadcat: A job. |
| 04:38.41 | karsten | deadcat: Xen |
| 04:39.10 | deadcat | karsten: ah. cool. you gonna be there on the next meeting? then linuxpicnic the next day (= |
| 04:39.21 | bob2 | karsten: esd is what gnome uses |
| 04:39.24 | sadfgg | How can I l get my USB mouse to work with a custom 2.6 kernel? |
| 04:39.36 | sadfgg | modprobe usbmouse doesn't help |
| 04:39.42 | deadcat | sadfgg: mousedev |
| 04:39.55 | karsten | bob2: ... Ok. |
| 04:39.57 | sadfgg | deadcat, FATAL: Module mousedev not found. |
| 04:40.09 | deadcat | sadfgg: now you know why some people SHOULDNT compile? |
| 04:40.10 | bob2 | why did yo ucompile a custom one? |
| 04:40.11 | karsten | deadcat: Good question. With luck I'll be in the middle of moving about then. |
| 04:40.29 | deadcat | ah |
| 04:40.38 | sTone_heAd | sadfgg, have usbhid support? |
| 04:40.43 | deadcat | karsten: that sounds like "cant make it"? |
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| 04:40.53 | bob2 | karsten: where to? |
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| 04:41.26 | karsten | bob2: Penninsula, from north bay. |
| 04:41.30 | sadfgg | sTone_heAd, yes |
| 04:41.31 | dupondje | somebody know how it comes i get that error ? is there smth i can do ? |
| 04:41.38 | deadcat | karsten: what city? |
| 04:41.40 | karsten | bob2: It's 1.5 hours w/o traffic, unthinkable with. |
| 04:41.43 | karsten | deadcat: PA/MP. |
| 04:41.54 | deadcat | karsten: whats that? |
| 04:41.57 | bob2 | karsten: eep |
| 04:42.01 | karsten | deadcat: It would be pretty tight. |
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| 04:42.02 | bob2 | karsten: nearer to work? |
| 04:42.07 | gravity | karsten: You're moving? |
| 04:42.12 | karsten | bob2: Very much. More like 5-10 minutes if I'm down here. |
| 04:42.17 | karsten | gravity: Hell yeah. |
| 04:42.20 | bob2 | nice |
| 04:42.23 | gravity | karsten: You got a job? |
| 04:42.32 | karsten | gravity: Yes, didn't you hear? |
| 04:42.34 | gravity | Nope |
| 04:42.39 | karsten | gravity: ... it was top story at Slashdot ... |
| 04:42.40 | gravity | Congratulations! |
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| 04:42.42 | licued | hrmm |
| 04:42.42 | gravity | lol |
| 04:42.42 | deadcat | karsten: congrad. near ricks? |
| 04:42.46 | karsten | deadcat: Yeah. |
| 04:42.50 | deadcat | cool (= |
| 04:43.29 | deadcat | karsten: i hope you're not the guy who got my job. )= |
| 04:43.31 | karsten | deadcat: Ergo my presence at CABAL HQ now. |
| 04:43.37 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:43.44 | karsten | deadcat: Where were you looking? |
| 04:43.57 | karsten | deadcat: Xen & VMWare are both hiring. Virtual's hot ATM. |
| 04:44.11 | deadcat | karsten: hah. just kidding.. i am doing some contract for my basketball coach's football website right now. |
| 04:44.30 | deadcat | karsten: i dont know those fancy stuff man. |
| 04:44.31 | karsten | deadcat: Sounds like your basketball coach is confused... |
| 04:44.40 | deadcat | karsten: about sport? (= |
| 04:44.52 | karsten | deadcat: basketball coach. Football website. |
| 04:45.02 | karsten | Next thing you'll be telling us they play on bikes. |
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| 04:45.26 | deadcat | karsten: haha. no. hes the "staff" teaching basketball during summer. hes a football coach during regular school year. |
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| 04:45.44 | karsten | So, WRT that Russian spammer ... |
| 04:45.52 | karsten | ... in related news, SpamAssassin 4.0 was released today. |
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| 04:46.26 | mombof | someone got really tired of spam |
| 04:46.40 | deadcat | karsten: what do you do for xen? |
| 04:46.44 | karsten | deadcat: QA. |
| 04:46.50 | deadcat | karsten: cool. |
| 04:46.58 | Vyrus001 | hardware question, i have a 2.5 inch hard drive, is there a way i can hook it to an ide channle on my desktop so that i could copy some information to it ? |
| 04:47.14 | deadcat | Vyrus001: converter |
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| 04:47.35 | dupondje | don't ignore me plz :( |
| 04:47.36 | karsten | Vyrus001: What's the connector? USB? |
| 04:47.44 | deadcat | Vyrus001: best way is to buy a usb case. then return it afterward |
| 04:47.51 | karsten | Vyrus001: ... there are drive caddies, check a decent tech shop. |
| 04:48.04 | maher | Vyrus001: yes - you need a 2.5 to 3.5 hd converter - they're < $10 i have one |
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| 04:48.16 | greyson | What is the best way to make an automated Debian install? |
| 04:48.25 | karsten | dupondje: How about installing w/ 2.6 kernel and avoiding the build problem. |
| 04:48.28 | mombof | Vyrus001, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5792761208&category=41993&rd=1 |
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| 04:48.48 | dupondje | karsten: 2.6.12.3 is running |
| 04:48.57 | karsten | dupondje: ... and SATA doesn't work/ |
| 04:48.57 | deadcat | Vyrus001: just get a usb case, return it and say "shit dont work" |
| 04:49.03 | karsten | dupondje: s,/,?, |
| 04:49.13 | Vyrus001 | deadcat he, last resort |
| 04:49.17 | karsten | greyson: seed server |
| 04:49.18 | dupondje | but there are no drivers in kernel for that controller |
| 04:49.31 | dupondje | my nvidia sata just works fine |
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| 04:49.51 | mdh | he suffered blows to the head? fuck it... I told those bastards to kneecap ! |
| 04:49.58 | deadcat | poonj: you reg for linuxworld? and linuxpicnic.org? |
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| 04:50.30 | poonj | deadcat: no...I'm not going to be town for those during the week |
| 04:50.34 | deadcat | mdh: hmm. i saw he blows head from your comment... |
| 04:50.35 | nullman | Vyrus001: one of these maybe? http://www.cablesonline.net/44pinto40pin.html |
| 04:50.49 | poonj | deadcat: I've gone in years past...things at linuxworld isn't something we'd be able to use |
| 04:50.54 | mdh | the russian mafia sure isn't what it used to be |
| 04:50.56 | greyson | karsten: Thank you, I'll check it out. |
| 04:50.58 | poonj | deadcat: unless you're running huge clusters |
| 04:51.07 | Vyrus001 | deadcat karsten yea i think the ide or usb adapter is my best bet, (i was hopeing not to have to spend any money but.. oh well :P) |
| 04:51.22 | deadcat | poonj: true. only a small section is for linux users. the rest are giving away shits you dont need. |
| 04:51.51 | deadcat | Vyrus001: my plan dont waste you $. as long as they dont have the 15% restocking fee. |
| 04:51.52 | nullman | is there a debian image that fits on a 16 MB flash drive? |
| 04:52.00 | deadcat | nullman: no. 43MB |
| 04:52.17 | deadcat | nullman: but woody might fit. |
| 04:52.22 | karsten | nullman: No, though the potato base2_2.tgz file would *just* fit. |
| 04:52.23 | poonj | deadcat: :) |
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| 04:52.45 | poonj | hey, I was wondering if anyone here knew of a cd burning method that'll burn perfect 1:1 copies of cds |
| 04:52.50 | deadcat | poonj: ya. they were giving out a fucking wine screw.. what the fuck. i rather get a pen. |
| 04:53.05 | poonj | in linux of course...something to the likes of clonecd/alcohol 120% |
| 04:53.10 | dupondje | i really need to get that controller working :( |
| 04:53.19 | poonj | deadcat, heh, but they do give t-shirts and stuff though if you sit through a presentation and answer questions |
| 04:53.24 | bob2 | poonj: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=./image |
| 04:53.24 | karsten | nullman: ... at 15.5 MB. http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Download/base2_2.tgz |
| 04:53.30 | nullman | humm, thanks but I think I need one of those small images that uncompress on boot up (like midori or jail bait); i would just like to use debian if possible |
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| 04:53.39 | deadcat | poonj: ya. and the tshirts can fit 2.5 of me.. |
| 04:53.42 | nullman | karsten: i'll take a look |
| 04:53.44 | nullman | thx |
| 04:53.45 | karsten | poonj: cdrecord |
| 04:53.47 | poonj | bob2: I don't think that can bypass safedisc |
| 04:53.58 | bob2 | poonj: that makes a bit for bit copy |
| 04:54.01 | mdh | oh... presentation. I read 'penetration' |
| 04:54.03 | karsten | poonj: ... writing from CD or to it? |
| 04:54.04 | bob2 | if your disk is fucked, get a refund |
| 04:54.22 | Vyrus001 | deadcat if i knew how to network boot i could just put it in my laptop and boot from network, then format from there |
| 04:54.22 | poonj | bob2, you sure thats a bit for bit copy? |
| 04:54.30 | karsten | bob2: If your disk is fucked, get disk-day-after pills. |
| 04:54.32 | poonj | karsten: trying to copy WC3 |
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| 04:54.43 | karsten | poonj: ?? |
| 04:54.47 | poonj | so I can use a burned copy instead of the original |
| 04:54.51 | poonj | but it doesn't seem to work.. |
| 04:55.01 | bob2 | poonj: sure |
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| 04:55.17 | bob2 | if some idiot tried to copy "protect" it by damaging it, then you're boned |
| 04:55.20 | deadcat | i have good plans. good and evil |
| 04:55.34 | poonj | its a game cd with safedisc |
| 04:55.42 | poonj | thats the problem |
| 04:56.07 | poonj | is that how safedisc works? |
| 04:56.09 | secher | Hello all again... I have to compile ndiswrapper with gcc 3.3 and I'm using 4.0 in unstable. can I and is it safe to temporarily downgrade to 3.3 for the build? |
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| 04:56.25 | liable | dupondje: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html check out all the links. |
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| 04:56.49 | wwallace | hello how do i mapped a network drive from windows to linux? |
| 04:56.58 | deadcat | secher: man make and search for CC |
| 04:57.06 | karsten | wwallace: smbclient |
| 04:57.18 | secher | deadcat: thanks, looking now. |
| 04:57.19 | wwallace | ? |
| 04:57.29 | mdh | wwallace: you can use smbclient or mount it as an smbfs or cifs filesystem |
| 04:57.33 | karsten | wwallace: You want to access a 'Doze share from Linux? |
| 04:57.43 | karsten | wwallace: That's what smbclient lets you do. |
| 04:57.44 | secher | deadcat: pattern not found... |
| 04:57.59 | wwallace | i can acces it already but i want like a mapped network drive' |
| 04:58.01 | karsten | wwallace: There's tools that let you browse w/o mounting, or you can mount the FS. |
| 04:58.15 | karsten | wwallace: Linux doesn't "map" drives. |
| 04:58.22 | wwallace | oh no |
| 04:58.23 | wwallace | ok |
| 04:58.36 | karsten | wwallace: You can mount it to /p/ if you must, but that's just an arbitrary name. |
| 04:59.04 | deadcat | secher: well. usually CC=gcc-3.3 make or something like that. if you use make-kpkg, MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.3" |
| 04:59.30 | wwallace | karsten: how the line would be? |
| 04:59.40 | karsten | wwallace: man mount |
| 05:00.17 | karsten | wwallace: There are examples and a specific section on smbfs options. |
| 05:00.24 | wwallace | smb://user25/C thats what i need to mount and make a shortcut on my desktop |
| 05:01.47 | deadcat | karsten: you know peter knagg? he got p3 laptop from oracle trash can.. something like that. (= |
| 05:01.48 | karsten | wwallace: Generally: <mountpoint> <SMB share> smbfs <options> 0 0 |
| 05:01.56 | dupondje | liable: my controller just isn't supported by the kernel |
| 05:02.06 | karsten | deadcat: Don't know him. Heard some Larry stories today though. |
| 05:02.14 | deadcat | haha |
| 05:02.22 | dupondje | thats why i'm trying to compile drivers from their site, but it fails |
| 05:02.27 | deadcat | karsten: i'll see him in hell. then we'll be even status. |
| 05:02.30 | wwallace | karsten: thank u ill try that |
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| 05:03.12 | karsten | wwallace: mount options would generally either include your user & password options, or a file reference to where they can be found. |
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| 05:03.57 | karsten | alan_k: You didn't used to work for HP did you? |
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| 05:04.13 | alan_k | nope ;) |
| 05:04.15 | deadcat | karsten: imposter |
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| 05:04.28 | karsten | deadcat: No, just a dereferenced object. |
| 05:04.38 | karsten | deadcat: ...I was just making smalltalk. |
| 05:04.42 | deadcat | hahah. |
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| 05:04.53 | alan_k | any idea what's happening with aspell in unstable? |
| 05:04.55 | deadcat | i was talking to benh earlier then (= |
| 05:05.11 | deadcat | alan_k: probably gcc4 |
| 05:05.18 | gravity | alan_k: It'll be re-uploaded with a fix once newraff and newsamosa are up again |
| 05:05.19 | alan_k | had that horrible feeling.. |
| 05:05.24 | deadcat | if shits break, blame gcc4 and xorg for now |
| 05:05.39 | gravity | Heh, xorg should be fine now. gcc4 is still a good wipping boy though. |
| 05:05.41 | secher | Ok, can I downgrade to gcc 3.3 for the nonce? |
| 05:06.03 | gravity | secher: It won't affect anything with respect to the packages you download. |
| 05:06.04 | mdh | secher: its not the packages, its the ABI compatibility |
| 05:06.04 | unixfool | How can I make apt/dpkg forget about packages its seen but are no longer installed or availabe (without removing them from /var/lib/dpkg/status) manually? |
| 05:06.10 | deadcat | gravity: i am still blaming on xorg my ibook though. i KNOW its xorg. xfree works fine. |
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| 05:06.27 | gravity | deadcat: With the -4 package? |
| 05:06.30 | karsten | unixfool: purge? |
| 05:06.37 | wwallace | karsten: i just created a shortcut on my desktop one of those thinks you guys call a link to url |
| 05:06.40 | deadcat | gravity: ya. -2 and -4, so i had to go back to xfree |
| 05:06.55 | karsten | unixfool: What's their status? Are they removed but still have configs? |
| 05:07.03 | unixfool | karsten: they are purged |
| 05:07.10 | gravity | deadcat: Is this the ati driver? |
| 05:07.10 | karsten | wwallace: If it's pointing to a URL it's no link. |
| 05:07.17 | karsten | unixfool: Not sure then. |
| 05:07.17 | secher | mdh: I'm not asking about the aspell issue.. I need to have 3.3 installed to compile ndiswrapper, becuase I'm running a Debian kernel that was compiled with gcc-3.3, and I"m running unstable with 4.0 installed... |
| 05:07.28 | deadcat | gravity: ya. ati radeon. but the problem is reboot/shutdown |
| 05:07.35 | unixfool | karsten: this never happened to me at all for years, now it happens quite often, I can't figure it out |
| 05:07.42 | gravity | secher: Yeah. If you have both installed you can just change the gcc symlink |
| 05:07.52 | wwallace | kde says is a link to a url and it workd for me karsten thank you |
| 05:07.53 | gravity | deadcat: Oh... I think I remember that bug. |
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| 05:08.00 | gravity | deadcat: I haven't had a chance to look at it |
| 05:08.02 | lswstyle | ¤¹¤¸ |
| 05:08.22 | deadcat | gravity: good. i am not going crazy (= |
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| 05:08.48 | poonj | deadcat: are you planning on going to linuxworld? |
| 05:08.59 | deadcat | poonj: ya. then cabal, then picnic (= |
| 05:09.03 | deadcat | then school )= |
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| 05:09.22 | mdh | secher: just install gcc-3.3 - it'll live alongside gcc-4.0, and export CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 05:09.23 | tvn | what's at linuxworld ? |
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| 05:09.39 | deadcat | tvn: geeks and business people trying to sell stuff to geeks. |
| 05:10.33 | poonj | deadcat: are you looking to buy anything? |
| 05:10.33 | tvn | oh, so it doesn't seem to fit me since I am neither a geek nor business people :P |
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| 05:10.41 | deadcat | poonj: debian tshirt maybe |
| 05:11.09 | deadcat | poonj: ash and i MIGHT volunteer at the debian booth on thur.. MIGHT |
| 05:11.30 | poonj | really.. |
| 05:11.33 | poonj | doing what? |
| 05:11.37 | karsten | deadcat: Shaleh's got a whole mess of Debian T-shirts he's trying to get to LWE. |
| 05:11.43 | karsten | deadcat: ... he can't make it himself. |
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| 05:11.47 | deadcat | poonj: answer debian questions with windows answers (= |
| 05:11.57 | tvn | take pictures :P |
| 05:12.04 | deadcat | karsten: ya? want me to help him sell? |
| 05:12.07 | deadcat | tvn: that too (= |
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| 05:12.33 | deadcat | tvn: hopefully that penguin will be there so i can rape him again. |
| 05:12.49 | tvn | yah... photorape him :P |
| 05:12.59 | deadcat | tvn: whats photorape? |
| 05:13.25 | tvn | rape with a camera |
| 05:13.38 | deadcat | tvn: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2004/20040803.linux.world.expo/IMG_0044.JPG?width=800 |
| 05:13.43 | black13 | photorape? |
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| 05:14.05 | deadcat | black13: drink and type. |
| 05:14.16 | highvoltage | oh no, now LinuxWorld can't say "No Penguins were sexually abused during this event" |
| 05:14.26 | black13 | its a great word |
| 05:14.26 | deadcat | HAHAHA |
| 05:14.31 | poonj | deadcat: what?1 |
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| 05:15.45 | deadcat | as you can see. hes talking to ken and tom while i get him from behind. |
| 05:16.03 | Phated | My god. |
| 05:16.17 | deadcat | Phated: what up girl. |
| 05:16.37 | Phated | You ought to be ashamed of yourself for molesting that penguin. |
| 05:16.52 | deadcat | Phated: monkey see monkey do. |
| 05:17.16 | deadcat | Phated: i wonder if its possible to trick his ass into bending over for me. |
| 05:17.23 | Phated | Heh. |
| 05:17.29 | deadcat | i have a plan actually.. but dont know if it will work or not |
| 05:17.35 | ice_1963 | can some one tell me HOW to get my printer Driver hp photosmart |
| 05:17.38 | mdh | deadcat: drop a herring on the floor in front of him |
| 05:17.53 | deadcat | mdh: xxxactly (= |
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| 05:18.32 | deadcat | mdh: i see you've done this before? |
| 05:18.50 | black13 | tux is getting grabbed by the ass |
| 05:19.05 | pengo_ | children.. |
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| 05:20.03 | ice_1963 | well |
| 05:20.18 | Phated | pengo_: Children would not think of this. |
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| 05:20.47 | Phated | deadcat: You need to get over this penguin fetish and stop humping Tux. |
| 05:21.05 | deadcat | Phated: hahah.. fuck him! |
| 05:21.15 | Phated | Yes, you need to get over that, too. :) |
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| 05:23.43 | SDFH_Linux | any other deb repos i should add to stable?? |
| 05:23.53 | deadcat | SDFH_Linux: no |
| 05:24.56 | ke6isf | SDFH_Linux: Once, a student added ammonia to clorine bleach, in the hopes that he would get a stronger and more effective cleaner. |
| 05:25.10 | SDFH_Linux | lol |
| 05:25.38 | SDFH_Linux | so none then |
| 05:25.53 | deadcat | SDFH_Linux: thats what i said. |
| 05:25.58 | ke6isf | SDFH_Linux: You learn quickly, young grasshopper. |
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| 05:26.40 | SDFH_Linux | does stable update much? |
| 05:26.47 | deadcat | SDFH_Linux: only security |
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| 05:28.16 | SDFH_Linux | so never the programs?? |
| 05:28.25 | deadcat | SDFH_Linux: ^^ |
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| 05:30.17 | SDFH_Linux | whoa so i can be here on these programs for awhile |
| 05:30.24 | deadcat | SDFH_Linux: yes |
| 05:31.05 | deadcat | whats the default vnc port? |
| 05:31.05 | jair | guys when I am trying to install samba I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/320826 |
| 05:31.12 | jair | I think I mess somthing |
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| 05:31.28 | SloBre | #securityhack big french hacking community alsoo www.securityhack.net =) |
| 05:31.39 | jair | I was trying to remove --purge samba and everything else and then when i am trying to reinstall it I am getting this message |
| 05:31.47 | SloBre | #securityhack big french hacking community alsoo www.securityhack.net =) |
| 05:31.53 | *** mode/#debian [+o bob2] by ChanServ |
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| 05:32.45 | jair | I think some od the directories were deleted, like smbpasswd??? that is how it looks on the error result. |
| 05:33.27 | jair | it is a way in debian that i can start the installation of samba from the complete scratch? |
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| 05:33.39 | jair | I am using stable sarge 3.1 |
| 05:33.39 | bob2 | jair: you "think", or did you delete them yourself? |
| 05:33.46 | deadcat | tightvncviewer is the litest and best right? |
| 05:33.52 | jair | bob2, I confess I think I deleted |
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| 05:34.08 | bob2 | jair: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends samba ; sudo apt-get install samba |
| 05:34.10 | secher | WOOT!!! I got ndiswrapper working, and I'm finally in my ACed bedroom, with my sexy GF sleeping nekkid next to me while I geek out. Life is good! |
| 05:34.23 | glick | ecuse me has anyone seen that movie short on the internet about the guy whose life is ruined cause his friend sends him an email with porn pictures, and his coworker sees it. At the end he ends up killing himself cause everything goes wrong for him, and in the end, the crazy mortitian ends up molesting his corpse to boot |
| 05:34.30 | jair | deadcat, I did heard very good things about it, and I use it in a windows platafor I will have to start using it in linux but with ssh tunneling ;) |
| 05:34.33 | secher | No, I can't wake her.. she's not a night owl. <grin> |
| 05:34.44 | jair | bob2, let me check that savier |
| 05:34.44 | deadcat | jair: ok |
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| 05:35.45 | secher | Ok, now to fix mysql, the original intent of this evening's work.. <grin> |
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| 05:36.28 | jair | bob2, I love you ;) |
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| 05:37.01 | dabaR | I love him too. |
| 05:37.17 | jair | bob2, if I want to do the 500 users projects I know that sounds more a #samba question but I should select passwd.tdb or it is a way that I can do tdbsam? |
| 05:37.19 | deadcat | bob2 is the best. we all want a piece of him |
| 05:37.24 | jair | haha |
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| 05:37.32 | bob2 | jair: I've never used samba, sorry |
| 05:37.41 | bob2 | well, I have, to share my flacs anonymously |
| 05:37.42 | deadcat | jair: write a script |
| 05:37.47 | dabaR | even a sorry, he is so nice. |
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| 05:38.23 | rAz__ | hi ppl |
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| 05:38.56 | jair | deadcat, what do you mean? |
| 05:39.07 | deadcat | jair: i dont remember. |
| 05:39.21 | jair | ok |
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| 05:39.48 | jair | I am trying to follow the samba by example document and it is saying that i will be using tdbsam |
| 05:40.02 | jair | but the option I have here is passwd.tdb |
| 05:40.05 | litage | any preferences between timeoutd and autolog for booting idle users? |
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| 05:40.26 | secher | Ok, mysql is a dead channel... |
| 05:40.44 | greyson | karsten: Does preseeding work for apt-get'ed packages installed after the fact as well: |
| 05:40.50 | greyson | ? |
| 05:41.30 | karsten | greyson: I haven't done it myself, but I know some folks who've set up seed servers. |
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| 05:41.46 | secher | I"m trying to get my install of mysql to let me login.. when I try to login using mysql-admin I get error 2003 can't connect to mysql server on 'sysid'(111). I can ping the host, it's the local system, and ps shows the daemon as running.. any suggestions? I know this is more for #mysql, but it's from a .deb package, and #mysql is dead silent. |
| 05:41.47 | karsten | greyson: I think Ubuntu's install is somewhat similar, though I'm probably wrong on that. |
| 05:42.11 | jm_ | secher: read things in /usr/share/doc/mysql* |
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| 05:42.38 | greyson | karsten: Yeah, this looks to be exactly what I was hoping for... I'm not really too thrilled about the idea of switching distros though, I've grown too happy with Debian. |
| 05:42.57 | greyson | Sorry, those were two disconnected thoughts. |
| 05:43.07 | jair | bob2, something else is missing |
| 05:43.22 | greyson | preseed=good; changedistro=bad; |
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| 05:44.04 | unixfool | How can I remove evidence of purged packages? (eg, I've removed and purged xdm, but dpkg-query -W xdm still shows the version, and it still has info in /var/lib/dpkg/status) |
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| 05:44.10 | jair | bob2, I did the command and it sucess in the depends but then when I try to install samba server I get this error:http://pastebin.com/320836 |
| 05:44.15 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@66.36.229.204] by dondelelcaro |
| 05:44.17 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 05:44.48 | deadcat | who was that? |
| 05:44.55 | litage | unixfool: look into `apt-get [auto]clean` |
| 05:44.56 | greyson | unixfool: That's normal, that's just the apt cache making sure that it knows what's current. |
| 05:45.04 | jair | bob2, it looks like i have to run dpkg --configure something to fix the /etc/smbpasswd/? |
| 05:45.17 | greyson | unixfool: Oops... sorry, missed the -W |
| 05:45.19 | unixfool | litage, that doesnt do it :( |
| 05:45.57 | litage | unixfool: not sure what to suggest then, besides reading through the dpkg manpages |
| 05:46.07 | jair | ohh my god I don't know what to do now to fix this samba crap |
| 05:46.24 | jair | guys anyone can help me with this error: http://pastebin.com/320836 |
| 05:46.41 | jair | I am trying to install samba server on debian stable sarge 3.1 |
| 05:46.50 | deadcat | jair: most of the people here use samba for simple task. like share something with a windows box. |
| 05:47.13 | greyson | jair: Have you tried 'mkdir /etc/samba' ? |
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| 05:47.32 | bob2 | jair: I dunno know here that was supposed to come from |
| 05:48.20 | greyson | jair: Or try bypassing apt-get and use dpkg directly if you need the '--reinstall' flag |
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| 05:49.25 | dondelelcaro | since that line actually creates /etc/samba/smbpasswd, the most likely culprint is a totally missing samba directory |
| 05:49.32 | sciron | have a good one for sarge/testing: xwindows, (WM agnostic), screen garble (color depth agnostic too), reproducable everytime by a mozilla-driven browser viewing certain pages, happens at other times too, just haven't seen any consistency |
| 05:49.58 | dondelelcaro | sciron: have you filed a bug yet? |
| 05:50.30 | jair | guys i got it |
| 05:50.31 | sciron | dondelelcaro: I haven't verified it is a bug or system configuration issue, though to the best of my limited knowledge, it isn't a configuration issue. didn't happen in any other distribution |
| 05:50.57 | jair | deadcat, bob2 and greyson I have to remove the samba-common and then try to reinstall |
| 05:50.59 | jair | ;) |
| 05:51.08 | sciron | it's nothing nearly as obvious as the borked 2.6.11 kernel images ;) |
| 05:51.08 | jair | I found it in a mailin list pretty cool. |
| 05:51.53 | clerax | #securityhack big french hacking community alsoo www.securityhack.net FRENCH p0w@ =) |
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| 05:56.32 | jair | here is the magic stuff : http://pastebin.com/320843 |
| 05:56.51 | jair | this is how you can reinstall samba with no problems I love it |
| 05:56.51 | jair | ;) |
| 05:56.59 | tvn | I think the biggest change in my email experience is change everything to webmail , Yahoo :P |
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| 05:57.55 | tvn | no longer spend time on playing with mutt's configs and all the spam settings ... |
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| 06:01.22 | pepsi | hi |
| 06:01.27 | dimir | Morning. |
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| 06:01.52 | pepsi | im having trouble with mozilla-firefox... at first i had installed a minimal debian install plus gnome, but now i have a minimal install plus gnome-core |
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| 06:02.15 | gudi | hi |
| 06:02.19 | pepsi | when i installed all of gnome, mozilla-firefox worked, but with gnome-core it yells at me about an XDM authorization key |
| 06:03.24 | gudi | im bought a kvm ip switch but now it hangs in unkown video mode when im browsing to it via web .. when i try to change the servers via keyboard nothing haben .. what can i do beside drive to the location ? |
| 06:04.05 | sciron | gudi: external power jack on the kvm? |
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| 06:04.34 | gudi | sciron, i reset the unit but still the same.. this really suxx |
| 06:04.52 | sciron | gudi: i understand about resetting it, but does your kvm offer a jack for external power? |
| 06:04.58 | sciron | gudi: external power FOR the KVM? |
| 06:05.08 | sciron | like an AC adapter |
| 06:05.30 | sciron | mine does, it helps sometimes with tubes that don't like KVMs |
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| 06:07.41 | gudi | sciron, yes it have a external ac.. |
| 06:08.14 | sciron | gudi: the only other thing I've seen affect it is the KVM is the refresh rates the KVM supports vs. what the monitor supports. sometimes lowering the refresh rate and/or resolutions can be an aid. that's the extent of my knowledge |
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| 06:09.26 | gudi | sciron, but howto set the refresh rate when i only get unkown video mode ? |
| 06:09.37 | sciron | gudi: ssh enabled? |
| 06:09.57 | gudi | sciron, my ssh is hang this is why i want to use the kvm :-( |
| 06:10.21 | sciron | gudi: is the unknown mode reported by your DM or by the monitor? |
| 06:10.30 | gudi | dm? |
| 06:10.39 | sciron | gudi: display manager: kdm, gdm, etc |
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| 06:10.56 | gudi | i see it in the webinterface of the kvm.. |
| 06:11.24 | sciron | gudi: oh, ouch, I assumed otherwise, my fault |
| 06:11.37 | sciron | gudi: does the kvm prevent the machine from booting? |
| 06:12.01 | gudi | sciron, no |
| 06:12.04 | sciron | gudi: it goes back to my dm/monitor question, because if it is only the monitor returning the message, sshd should still work fine. |
| 06:12.30 | sciron | gudi: the monitor refresh issues shouldn't affect your ssh session to the machine |
| 06:13.11 | sciron | gudi: but you can change the refresh rates in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 06:13.19 | paivakil | `/part |
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| 06:13.22 | gudi | sciron, my ssh hangs on the server . otherwise i wouldnt need the kvm .. |
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| 06:13.40 | gudi | sciron, and i don't know on which server the kvm hangs |
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| 06:14.00 | black13 | why are pam stacks called "stacks" |
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| 06:14.05 | sciron | gudi: i don't understand that. ssh's operation is not affected by any video issues, unless the video card is having major issues |
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| 06:14.21 | sciron | gudi: unless you're trying to do forwarded X11 over SSH? |
| 06:15.49 | sciron | gudi: oh... something else just dawned on me.... why don't you know which server is plugged into which port on the kvm? also, are you trying to ssh directly into the machine, or through the kvm somehow? |
| 06:16.18 | reamtS | What is the usb module for 'usb dvd-r'? and how do I list my drive? |
| 06:16.44 | gudi | sciron, ok im starting from the beginning.. when i log in my webapp of kvm i see "unkown video mode" on the remote console. After see that i tried to open it and change the port to change the server. But when i try to do it i still get unkwon video mode. |
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| 06:17.10 | sciron | gudi: am I correct in assuming you get the error on all KVM ports? |
| 06:17.21 | maher | reamtS: do you have hotplug installed? and how are you trying to access the drive? |
| 06:17.35 | gudi | sciron, it looks like that .. or the change of the ports not work. |
| 06:18.07 | sciron | gudi: is your kvm's web interface supposed to display screens from the machines attached to it? |
| 06:18.30 | gudi | sciron, yes.. it worked one week before |
| 06:18.56 | sciron | gudi: remote servers, you haven't made any changes to them to cause this, everything still be plugged in, etc etc etc? |
| 06:19.06 | gudi | sciron, yes |
| 06:19.11 | gudi | no changes |
| 06:19.36 | reamtS | maher: just installed hotplug, I want to mount my usb dvdr, any hints? |
| 06:19.38 | sciron | gudi: and the monitor attached to the kvm is plugged into it as far as you know (this would be key, you get retrieve DDC information from a monitor when it's not there) |
| 06:19.40 | gudi | can i telnet to the kvm and change the ports via telnet .. ? |
| 06:20.01 | sciron | gudi: that's a good question, I was chuckling at a KVM switch with a web interface :| |
| 06:20.25 | sciron | gudi: seems rather absurd, personally. just an opinion though. |
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| 06:20.38 | maher | reamtS: its probably called sr0 - look in the logs to see |
| 06:20.49 | dupondje | *** Warning: "scsi_to_pci_dma_dir" [/root/rr2220-linux-src-1.0/product/rr2220/linux/.build/hptmv6.ko] undefined! |
| 06:21.00 | dupondje | where does this error comes from ? |
| 06:21.07 | dupondje | is there smth i need to install ? |
| 06:21.10 | sciron | gudi: short of the homepage of the manufacturer, I wouldn't know where to go from here, or to the physical location itself, I bet you were relying on someone else's eyes over the phone? |
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| 06:21.30 | kaouete | yo |
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| 06:22.17 | kaouete | someone know what happened to volatile ? if it even have a problem . i cant reach it here :/ |
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| 06:22.50 | sciron | gudi: and if it is someone elses' eyes over the phone, how experienced/reliable are they? i could only recommend the web page of the maker of the kvm, then weigh the reliability of the remote eyes vs. a site visit. that's just me though, and my opinion. |
| 06:22.50 | ke6isf | *grumbles as firefox core dumps* |
| 06:23.07 | pepsi | ke6isf, fun with firefox? :D |
| 06:23.21 | gudi | sciron, the hotline is not reachable at the moment |
| 06:23.25 | laughing | is there already a firefox 1.0.6 for sarge? |
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| 06:23.35 | ke6isf | pepsi: Sort of, current version just segfaulted on me. NO biggie. |
| 06:23.37 | pepsi | firefox yells at me about an XDM authorization key.. anyone have any ideas why? |
| 06:23.37 | sciron | gudi: does the maker have a website with FAQs or other documentation? |
| 06:23.44 | laughing | i cannot build the unstable firefox on sarge... |
| 06:23.52 | ke6isf | laughing: I ahven't seen the backport come down the mirror. |
| 06:23.53 | gudi | sciron, yes but not the prob i have is listed there |
| 06:23.59 | reamtS | maher: yep, you are right, I was able to mount it =) thx |
| 06:24.01 | carrus85 | are there any good tutorials on how to properly add nvnet (the nforce net driver) in debian? |
| 06:24.21 | jm_ | carrus85: 2.6 kernels support that |
| 06:24.41 | sciron | gudi: the other obvious possibility is a broken kvm, but not verifiable easily from the sound of it. wish I could help you out more |
| 06:24.45 | pepsi | carrus85, forcedeth doesnt work? |
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| 06:25.12 | carrus85 | which I have... I have the nvnet driver compiled, and modinfo sees it, I'm just not sure how to install it just because debian isn't listed in the nvidia configuration html file :S |
| 06:25.28 | jm_ | man modprobe ; man modules |
| 06:25.40 | carrus85 | pepsi> forcedeth works, I'd just rather use the offical driver |
| 06:25.45 | reamtS | maher: one more thing, how do I determine the scsi device number? like dev=0,0,0 |
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| 06:26.57 | maher | reamtS: umm - are you sure you need that? |
| 06:27.04 | carrus85 | okay, so I just add nvnet to the modules file, save, and reboot? |
| 06:27.11 | carrus85 | and it should work? |
| 06:27.23 | carrus85 | or is there more to it... |
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| 06:27.50 | reamtS | maher: it's a dvdr, and I am planning to burn some backup files. |
| 06:28.07 | maher | reamtS: growisofs shouldn't need that info |
| 06:28.33 | reamtS | maher: I was hoping for cdrecord |
| 06:29.02 | maher | reamtS: cdrecord won't write dvds, growisofs will do both |
| 06:29.15 | reamtS | maher: sweet jesus, thx |
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| 06:29.54 | carrus85 | do I need to write any alias commands? (like alias eth0 nvnet) in any of the files? and if so, where? I'm basically a linux newb, sorry :( |
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| 06:31.22 | cat | carrus85: well alias for what? |
| 06:31.41 | ajjl | hello, I am SSH-ing from one debian box to another, the SSH window locks up after about a half hour. I can SSH again in another window without any problem. What could cause this? |
| 06:32.12 | cat | ajjl: when you'r idle on ssh it will boot you off, |
| 06:32.20 | carrus85 | the nvidia documentation for the nforce driver states that you have to create an alias eth0 nvnet in the modules.conf file on the 2.6 kernel. However, there is a rather ominous "do not alter this file" notice on debian, so I'm kinda at a loss as of what to do... |
| 06:32.41 | maher | carrus85: do nothing and see if it works |
| 06:32.51 | reamtS | maher: Is growisofs in the debian archive? |
| 06:33.07 | pepsi | what does xhost do? specifically what does `xhost +` and `xhost -` do? |
| 06:33.15 | ajjl | cat: since when? |
| 06:33.17 | cat | pepsi: man xhost |
| 06:33.21 | cat | ajjl: man ssh |
| 06:33.25 | maher | reamtS: should be in dvd+rw-tools |
| 06:33.26 | dondelelcaro | reamtS: yes. /msg dpkg search; |
| 06:33.32 | carrus85 | last but not least, is there any way to determine what module is loaded for my network (aka, if the kernel is using nvnet for network instead of forcedeth) |
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| 06:33.57 | dupondje | *** Warning: "scsi_to_pci_dma_dir" [/root/rr2220-linux-src-1.0/product/rr2220/linux/.build/hptmv6.ko] undefined! |
| 06:33.58 | dupondje | any id ?? |
| 06:33.58 | dupondje | :( |
| 06:34.19 | pepsi | cat, thanks for the tip.. i had already done that, but i dont understand what it does |
| 06:34.25 | afabian | carrus85, the modules can be updated, you just do not edit the file directly. Read the comments. All of them. |
| 06:34.43 | maher | did you compile your own kernel with module source from random places? |
| 06:34.47 | cat | pepsi: then do google.com/linux and search from there, |
| 06:34.52 | maher | dupondje: ^^ |
| 06:35.04 | pepsi | cat, gee thanks, you are full of information |
| 06:35.56 | edward__ | who knows a good tool in witch I can do service reporting... ? |
| 06:35.58 | maher | pepsi: it controls which hosts can make windows on your xserver - use ssh -X |
| 06:36.02 | dupondje | maher: no, just trying to compile a module to get my sata controller working |
| 06:36.05 | cat | + Access is granted to everyone, even if they aren't on the list |
| 06:36.05 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.06 | edward__ | like how great is my smtp server running... ? |
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| 06:36.11 | cat | what's so complicated it about that? |
| 06:36.27 | dupondje | i got it from highpoint site |
| 06:36.34 | black13 | i am trying to understand how pam works ... i have tried to read the docs kernel.org but its not happening can anyone help me |
| 06:36.45 | maher | dupondje: is this a compile time warning? |
| 06:36.50 | liable | !warnings |
| 06:36.52 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software throws warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informational output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 06:37.02 | dupondje | yes maher |
| 06:37.11 | maher | dupondje: ignore it |
| 06:37.34 | pepsi | maher, thanks |
| 06:37.37 | dupondje | insmod: error inserting './hptmv6.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 06:38.12 | maher | dupondje: ok - the module doesn't compile against your current kernel - try and find which kernel it smeant to compile against |
| 06:38.38 | dupondje | maher it really DOES ! |
| 06:38.49 | liable | dupondje: not related, but dont use insmod for 2.6 kernels, use modprobe. |
| 06:38.52 | black13 | maher? |
| 06:39.10 | maher | black13: i don't understand pam either |
| 06:39.19 | black13 | you either huh |
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| 06:39.23 | maher | dupondje: ^^ try modprobe |
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| 06:39.57 | black13 | next step ... use the force read the source |
| 06:40.15 | dupondje | FATAL: Module hptmv6.ko not found. |
| 06:40.16 | dupondje | ?? :) |
| 06:40.17 | furrywolf | hrmm, everyone was right. compiling firefox from scratch performs MUCH better than the debian package. |
| 06:40.56 | maher | dupondje: modprobe hptmv6 |
| 06:41.12 | ajjl | cat: anyway, I am not being logged out, the ssh client is freezing |
| 06:41.33 | dupondje | FATAL: Module hptmv6 not found. |
| 06:41.37 | Fatal | dupondje: you lost it, you find it, i'm not going to bother |
| 06:42.02 | black13 | i can always read the source to login |
| 06:42.07 | furrywolf | fooz: on my dual p3-866, with 2gb ram (almost half of which firefox used!), it took over a second for anything typed to appear in text boxes, for an example of how slow it was... type a simple sentance, and wait 60 seconds as the letters slowly appear. |
| 06:42.12 | cat | ajjl: are you sure? |
| 06:42.21 | fooz | furrywolf, sounds like your computer's gimped |
| 06:42.45 | furrywolf | gimped? |
| 06:42.45 | fooz | furrywolf, it runs fine on my 1x P3 600 laptop with 192MB of RAM |
| 06:43.04 | furrywolf | it performs equally awfully on my p3-733.... oh, and equally awfully on my laptop... |
| 06:43.12 | ke6isf | furrywolf: I'm performing perfectly fine on an Athlon 1ghz with 512 MB. |
| 06:43.15 | fooz | probably misconfigured it |
| 06:43.35 | furrywolf | misconfigured? fresh debian install, not an option touched. |
| 06:43.41 | fooz | the kernel, too? |
| 06:43.45 | ke6isf | furrywolf: The ONLY problem I've had with FF on my end is a segfault about an hour ago. |
| 06:43.47 | furrywolf | no extensions, no plugins. |
| 06:43.58 | ke6isf | furrywolf: Which Deb branch? |
| 06:44.06 | fooz | well, at any rate, that's abnormal behavior |
| 06:44.15 | fooz | it shouldn't be using a gig of RAM unless you keep it running for about 3 months |
| 06:44.21 | furrywolf | ke6isf: firefox doesn't segfault for me. just develops random other problems a few times a day, half of which need to be -9'ed... |
| 06:44.28 | furrywolf | eh? it uses 350mb just to bloody load. |
| 06:44.29 | ajjl | cat: yes |
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| 06:44.39 | fooz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.45 | fooz | like I said, your computer's gimped |
| 06:44.58 | furrywolf | the one I installed myself, however, is using only 119mb. |
| 06:45.15 | furrywolf | and you still didn't say what "gimped" was. :P |
| 06:45.19 | fooz | still more than my debian one.. what site are you going to? |
| 06:45.26 | fooz | microsoft.com? |
| 06:45.38 | fooz | kill-firefox-dead.com? |
| 06:45.46 | furrywolf | last time it crashed, it was on mozilla's own website. :P |
| 06:45.53 | fooz | must be something designed to break the browser |
| 06:45.55 | black13 | dpkg -S login |
| 06:45.57 | dpkg | Package: login: Status: install ok installed |
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| 06:47.02 | fooz | man, t-mobile dropped most of their phones.. wonder if they plan on suiciding soon |
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| 06:49.04 | black13 | dpkg -S tells me what package installed a software correct |
| 06:49.05 | dpkg | Package: tells me what package installed a software correct: Status: install ok installed |
| 06:49.12 | fooz | hehe |
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| 06:49.24 | Coke | I must have asked this a dozen times in #freenode and yet no answer, perhaps someone here knows? How come my nick can be used by other people even though I have it registered and secure on? |
| 06:49.45 | fooz | Coke, you sure it's registered? |
| 06:49.47 | furrywolf | that sounds like a #freenode question. :) |
| 06:49.59 | ke6isf | Coke: Because nicks are arbitrary. If you want it back, consult the documentation. |
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| 06:50.22 | dabaR | -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data dbernar1 244110 2005-07-26 01:27 Screenshot.png what does the second user name mean? group? |
| 06:50.30 | ke6isf | dabaR: Yep. |
| 06:50.41 | Coke | ke6isf: I know how to get it back, I don't want to lose it. |
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| 06:50.47 | ke6isf | dabaR: First is the actual user, second is the actual group. |
| 06:50.52 | Coke | fooz: quite |
| 06:50.52 | dabaR | is it s good idea to have files in /var/www chmoded to 777? |
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| 06:51.06 | ke6isf | dabaR: Sure, if you want randoms to rm them. |
| 06:51.10 | Coke | fooz: since I can recover, release and identify as Coke with the nickserv I'm pretty sure it is registered. |
| 06:51.12 | dabaR | how do you change the group for files? |
| 06:51.20 | wiseguy_ | hellow anyone using sarge with postfix+clamav+amavis? |
| 06:51.21 | ke6isf | dabaR: chgrp |
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| 06:51.32 | ke6isf | dabaR: You can use chown, but that's a little weird. |
| 06:51.42 | black13 | how do i found out what dep package install login |
| 06:51.46 | wiseguy_ | anyone help |
| 06:51.49 | Coke | fooz: and, also; NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Security for your nickname is [ON] |
| 06:52.00 | dabaR | ke6isf: you were most helpful. Thank you. |
| 06:52.04 | ke6isf | dabaR: Gladly. |
| 06:52.05 | black13 | i have tried dpkg -S login but doesnt list any debs |
| 06:52.08 | ke6isf | wiseguy_: help with what? |
| 06:52.34 | fooz | Coke, try /msg nickserv set secure on |
| 06:52.40 | fooz | Coke, or /msg nickserv set secure immed |
| 06:52.54 | Coke | fooz: as you can se from the line I recently sent you, security is already on |
| 06:53.00 | fooz | oops |
| 06:53.06 | fooz | Coke, s/secure/kill/g2 |
| 06:53.29 | Coke | fooz: kill protection is on. |
| 06:53.31 | fooz | Coke, or just try /msg nickserv help like someone else said |
| 06:53.55 | fooz | who makes good cell phones today? I'm so behind |
| 06:54.05 | dabaR | hey, actually, I am not sure I understood right. If I allow write access for my apache user, www-data, can random people on the internet erase my files? and, can the same non-users of my computer erase those files if I 777 the files? |
| 06:54.09 | bob2 | nokia |
| 06:54.15 | bob2 | as long as you don't get a shiney new one |
| 06:54.18 | Coke | fooz: I've already consulted the nickserv help as well as the FAQ, it's all very good, it tells me just how to get a nick back and it says SECURE ON is all I need to protect it. |
| 06:54.24 | fooz | the two crashing, rebooting Series 60 phones I have say that nokia doesn't |
| 06:54.52 | bob2 | my 7250 has been nothing but reliable |
| 06:54.59 | jm_ | Coke: are you sure secure is supposed to do what you are doing? |
| 06:55.00 | bob2 | even after being dropped in a puddle and from a moving car |
| 06:55.07 | jm_ | my 5110 and 6150 models are also very good ;) |
| 06:55.08 | fooz | Coke, then i'm out of ideas. check the nickserv access list or complain in #freenode |
| 06:55.18 | fooz | are those all Series 60 phones or Series 40? |
| 06:55.24 | Coke | jm_: no. |
| 06:55.27 | bob2 | I dunno |
| 06:55.33 | bob2 | apparently mine has some sort of jvm |
| 06:55.40 | bob2 | and a useless little camera |
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| 06:55.53 | fooz | those look like series 40 ones |
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| 06:56.02 | fooz | they don't do enough for me |
| 06:56.15 | bob2 | e.g.? |
| 06:56.18 | dabaR | basically, if I have a file, and it is in /var/www, and its owner and group are www-data, the apache user, can someone delete that file other than the root or me with sudo, if I am the only other user on the computer. |
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| 06:56.50 | fooz | i own ... hrmmm... |
| 06:56.50 | dabaR | also, the files permissions are 700 |
| 06:56.55 | fooz | 7? |
| 06:57.09 | bob2 | dabaR: files served by apache are specifically NOT meant to be owned by www-data |
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| 06:57.24 | dabaR | wow, weird |
| 06:57.28 | dabaR | then who? |
| 06:57.32 | bob2 | anyone else |
| 06:57.43 | dabaR | but also in /var/www? |
| 06:57.56 | bob2 | apache runs as it's own special group and user so that it can't fuck with data on disk if it gets compromised |
| 06:57.59 | fooz | bob2, my T610's got a nice colour screen, bluetooth, IR, camera, XML browser, and the usual crap like useless personal organiser stuff |
| 06:58.05 | fooz | bob2, i want something like an updated T610 |
| 06:58.11 | bob2 | or every second day when some shitty php script gets 0wned |
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| 06:58.27 | fooz | bob2, oh, it's also very stable |
| 06:58.28 | doug_underscore | Some add-on httpd warez like Gallery may want to know who owns certain things or maybe tell you to chown this or that but otherwise read bob2's elite text. |
| 06:58.30 | bob2 | dabaR: anywhere you like |
| 06:58.39 | bob2 | dabaR: that's the default tho |
| 06:58.40 | dabaR | ya, actually, |
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| 06:59.12 | billions | Hey guys how do I stop X from auto-booting Gnome? |
| 06:59.15 | Coke | jm_: now that I've looked through the FAQs again I see no instructions on how to protect the nick. I have no idea what option I need to make sure nobody can use my nick. |
| 06:59.22 | dabaR | and permissions for others then 5 or 4, right? |
| 06:59.26 | doug_underscore | billions: holla at me when you find out dog |
| 06:59.29 | jm_ | Coke: I'd say you can't do what you want to do |
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| 06:59.49 | bob2 | billions: be more specific |
| 06:59.53 | bob2 | do you want X to not start? |
| 06:59.55 | Coke | jm_: so you mean to tell me that if you log off I can become jm_ ? |
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| 06:59.56 | Brolly | alguem fala portugues ai |
| 06:59.57 | bob2 | do you want to start something else? |
| 06:59.58 | bob2 | nothing? |
| 07:00.01 | jm_ | Coke: of course |
| 07:00.02 | bob2 | Brolly: obviously not |
| 07:00.11 | doug_underscore | bob2: i think just another wm |
| 07:00.13 | fooz | are Sidekick IIs good? |
| 07:00.32 | bob2 | I want a phone with the python vm in it |
| 07:00.35 | bob2 | none of this java crap |
| 07:00.38 | Coke | jm_: ok. that sort of sucks. |
| 07:00.43 | fooz | bob2, you can get python for series 60 |
| 07:00.44 | jm_ | python? haha that's yuck |
| 07:00.45 | bob2 | doug_underscore: then it depends on how X is currently starting |
| 07:00.46 | fooz | straight from nokia |
| 07:00.53 | doug_underscore | bob2: Fuck java? |
| 07:01.02 | billions | well I want to know how to set it to autoboot a windowmanager of my choice yeah |
| 07:01.07 | doug_underscore | word. |
| 07:01.15 | Brolly | bob2 vc entendeu então o q eu falei? |
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| 07:01.18 | Coke | jm_: every morning I have to get the nick back from some fucker who appearantly does not get why his nick changes. |
| 07:01.20 | bob2 | oh, wow, I think mine is a seris 60 |
| 07:01.23 | bob2 | Brolly: obviously not |
| 07:01.26 | bob2 | !+portuguese |
| 07:01.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 07:01.31 | fooz | bob2, nope, i don't think so |
| 07:01.40 | doug_underscore | that is totally not a rumor, dpkg |
| 07:01.45 | doug_underscore | :) |
| 07:01.47 | jm_ | Coke: should be trivial to automate this |
| 07:01.48 | Coke | jm_: I've PM'ed him telling him to get another nick, save us both fifteen seconds of work every morning, but no such luck. |
| 07:02.12 | fooz | bob2, http://arm.convergencepromotions.com/arm_data_new/images/product/366.jpg does it look like that? |
| 07:02.13 | bob2 | billions: how are you starting X? |
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| 07:02.28 | Coke | jm_: yes, could do it before I identify myself. |
| 07:02.29 | Brolly | dpkg vlw |
| 07:02.32 | billions | bob2: automatically when I boot my computer |
| 07:02.34 | Coke | in the connect script |
| 07:02.40 | fooz | bob2, all phones of that series have a title bar up top with signal meter/clock and the 3 standard soft buttons on bottom |
| 07:02.47 | bob2 | billions: by? |
| 07:02.50 | bob2 | xdm, gdm, kdm |
| 07:03.04 | billions | ohh xdm yeah sorry ^^ |
| 07:03.14 | bob2 | then create ~/.xsession |
| 07:03.19 | bob2 | and have it run whatever window manager you want |
| 07:03.28 | fooz | bob2, if you've got a button to switch tasks (usually with spinning or curved arrow emblem on it) then you've a series 60 phone |
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| 07:03.51 | bob2 | hm, guess not then |
| 07:03.57 | doug_underscore | bob2: with unlimited bandwidth on a 2.4GHz box w/ 512 ram, and with apache's .conf tweaked oh so nicely, how many requests averaging 7K is size, ballpark, could it process? 5, 10? |
| 07:04.11 | fooz | bob2, N-Gage and N-Gage QD are the cheapest and most common Series 60 phones. i have both of em |
| 07:04.12 | dabaR | billions: well, I would expect that a series 60 nokia's model would start with a 6. |
| 07:04.17 | Coke | jm_: going to try it out. :) |
| 07:04.30 | fooz | dabaR, no |
| 07:04.44 | dabaR | it used to be that way, I think. |
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| 07:05.20 | fooz | Nokia 3650 is series 60 also |
| 07:05.34 | Coke | jm_: no, the nickserv kills me if I try to recover Coke while being Coke. :) |
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| 07:05.49 | jm_ | Coke: yes, you have to make sure you don't own the nick before doing it :P |
| 07:06.00 | billions | thanks Bob :) going to boot up blackbox now...see you guys in a bit =D |
| 07:06.01 | fooz | bob2, the problem is both my ngages crash or reboot or lock up at least once daily. it's a real drag to lose calls because your OS is unstable |
| 07:06.08 | bob2 | fooz: you bought an ngage? why? |
| 07:06.12 | fooz | bob2, i need to bring my QD back to t-mobile to see if a replacement works right |
| 07:06.24 | fooz | bob2, well, I didn't know about the crashing thing. and besides that, they're nice phones? |
| 07:06.31 | bob2 | they're huge and ugly |
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| 07:06.38 | bob2 | unless they've changed them since last year |
| 07:06.45 | fooz | bob2, N-Gage has FM radio, MP3 player, can fit 1-2GB memory cards, and plays games |
| 07:06.48 | Coke | jm_: I don't know if I can do conditional testing with the IRSSI script. |
| 07:06.53 | Trace | What do you think of clamscan and f-prot? and other tools of antivirus? |
| 07:07.01 | fooz | bob2, QD loses the FM radio and mp3 player, but gets an awesome screen and removable memory card slot |
| 07:07.05 | jm_ | Coke: it's perl, you can easily do it |
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| 07:07.14 | ke6isf | fooz: Dang, and all I want is a phone that rings when called, and can deal with phone calls. |
| 07:07.15 | bob2 | Trace: depends how silly your windows users are |
| 07:07.20 | doug_underscore | antivirus schmantivirus.. this is linux, baby! Debian linux!!! |
| 07:07.23 | fooz | ke6isf, that's nice. i'm happy for you. |
| 07:07.24 | bob2 | you don't need any of them if you only have linux machines |
| 07:07.24 | Coke | jm_: it's not perl in the autosendcmd clause, is it? |
| 07:07.41 | jm_ | Coke: nope |
| 07:07.42 | bob2 | doug_underscore: I dunno, lots. I'd be surprised if it could only do 10/s |
| 07:08.00 | ke6isf | Trace: Fairly redundant, unless you're just stripping viruses from inbound mail for lusers. |
| 07:08.04 | Coke | jm_: I'm thinking I'll make an alias. |
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| 07:08.29 | doug_underscore | bob2: ok same question but 50KB out and 1.5GHz ... does 6K/s make some sense in this neighborhood? |
| 07:08.31 | deeLer | hi |
| 07:08.53 | bob2 | doug_underscore: 6 thousand requests a second? |
| 07:08.58 | doug_underscore | i meant 6 |
| 07:09.04 | doug_underscore | that would be insane |
| 07:09.12 | fooz | bob2, the n-gages are the most beefy Series 60 phones you can get without spending roughly $400 (they've got 13MB of RAM and bluetooth). the OS is multitasking, you can get an SSH client for it. The GPRS stack also has a nice feature where the phone can have IP, and your laptop can have another IP, and the two don't clash.. both devices can be using the intarweb simultaneously |
| 07:09.55 | bob2 | I'd be surprised if you only got 6/s |
| 07:09.57 | dabaR | fooz: work for nokia?;) |
| 07:10.09 | bob2 | fooz: it's still big and ugly ;) |
| 07:10.22 | bob2 | and Im pissed nokia made a USB CABLE!@!@#! that's incompatible with linux |
| 07:10.27 | fooz | bob2, so's any phone |
| 07:10.32 | doug_underscore | even with PHP and sql involved in the picture for a dynamic website? |
| 07:10.34 | fooz | except mine |
| 07:10.42 | dabaR | and we all know that prettiness is very important for devices. |
| 07:10.45 | fooz | bob2, what are you talking about? |
| 07:11.06 | Coke | jm_: I think kill protection is what I want, but it is ON. oh, well, nevermind. |
| 07:11.07 | bob2 | fooz: I bought a USB cable, hoping I could use it with my laptop and phone to do gprs |
| 07:11.15 | fooz | bob2, the n-gage appears as a normal USB mass storage device to linux. you can use the phone as an MMC card reader. |
| 07:11.33 | deeLer | i got a debian box running KDE, i'd like to connect to VNC server on a WinXP , but in the middle there is another text only debian box which does NAT for the XP . I got full access on the text-only debian box. Can i pass on my VNC session to my debian ? |
| 07:11.34 | bob2 | fooz: but apparently it has some on-board microcontroller, and nokia won't document it, and there's no linux driver |
| 07:11.34 | fooz | bob2, ah. it didn't appear as serial device? |
| 07:11.40 | bob2 | doug_underscore: er, dynamic, it will go way down |
| 07:11.41 | fooz | bob2, which model again? |
| 07:12.08 | jm_ | Coke: how about this http://www.irssi.org/scripts/scripts/nickserv.pl |
| 07:12.09 | cat | is there an expecific plugin to download for apache to view php on my server? |
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| 07:12.32 | fooz | bob2, anyway, that's why i like bluetooth.. i just introduce my phone and whatever computer to each other, and they start talking |
| 07:12.36 | Coke | jm_: oooh! :) |
| 07:12.44 | litage | what exactly is ARP? |
| 07:12.49 | deeLer | KDE debian running VNC client -- routed connection ---> Text-debian (SSH) ----NAT---> Winxp (VNC server) |
| 07:12.56 | deeLer | anyone ? |
| 07:12.59 | dabaR | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.06 | Coke | jm_: hm. it doesn't seem to have kill protection implemented. :/ |
| 07:13.20 | dabaR | litage: address resolution protocol? |
| 07:13.38 | fooz | hrm, wish i could import one of those funky german Linux-running phones |
| 07:13.49 | litage | dabaR: right, i know that much, but don't really understand anything more than "arp translates ip to mac addresses" |
| 07:13.58 | dabaR | so google? |
| 07:14.09 | dabaR | wiki |
| 07:14.16 | jm_ | Coke: no? doh |
| 07:14.18 | doug_underscore | bob2: for a 50K out line entertaining 2400 visitors a day, between keep alives, max clients ... what would you clock in the conf for an average filesize of 7000K with the lowest latency (sacrificing speed per user) possible? |
| 07:14.19 | litage | dabaR: yeah but i haven't found many decent explanations |
| 07:14.19 | bob2 | fooz: yeah, bluetooth would be good |
| 07:14.26 | dabaR | howstuffworks.com |
| 07:14.28 | doug_underscore | (an image site) |
| 07:14.31 | dabaR | haha |
| 07:14.50 | cat | is there an expecific plugin to download for apache to view php on my server? |
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| 07:15.02 | dabaR | litage: well, they will have good explanations, look for .edu links on goodle. |
| 07:15.03 | ajjl | here's another clue: when I copy from a local xterm and paste into the SSH xterm I get garbage. |
| 07:15.07 | bob2 | Brolly: I don't know what "EUA" is, and I don't speak portuguese, sorry |
| 07:15.12 | dabaR | cat: /msg dpkg php |
| 07:15.15 | doug_underscore | that's the end of my question bob, the climax |
| 07:15.23 | ajjl | maybe the terminal is misconfigured somehow causing it to lock up? |
| 07:15.23 | fooz | bob2, Ericsson's early bluetooth line is really cheap now. I recommend em as an upgrade over a Nokia Series 40 phone. but it helps if your seller can flash it up to latest firmware for you |
| 07:15.25 | bob2 | doug_underscore: I don't understand the question |
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| 07:16.04 | deeLer | KDE debian running VNC client -- routed connection ---> Text-debian (SSH) ----NAT---> Winxp (VNC server) ... possible ? |
| 07:16.05 | doug_underscore | i'm asking for a tip from your gut on what to tweak in apache's httpd.conf |
| 07:16.07 | bob2 | fooz: hmm, open 802.11 is prevalent enough that I probably won't bother, but when I next buy a phone, I'd go for one with bluetooth |
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| 07:16.22 | fooz | bob2, T39m (tiny old-school Ericsson bluetooth flip phone) T68i (first colour bluetooth phone) and T610 (really tiny, colour, camera) |
| 07:16.25 | bob2 | doug_underscore: I know, but I don't understand the rest of the question |
| 07:16.37 | bob2 | if you want low-latency and you're using php and mysql, you already know what the problem is |
| 07:17.01 | doug_underscore | even with processer use low and <1 loads? |
| 07:17.10 | fooz | bob2, I never have a laptop with me anymore.. been meaning to build a custom linux distro for my PDA but too lazy and/or distracted |
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| 07:17.32 | Coke | jm_: I dunno. Perl code is like the universe; incomprehensible unless you are the author. |
| 07:17.47 | Coke | jm_: ... and even then it's still quite difficult to comprehend. |
| 07:17.50 | jm_ | Coke: this one looks very simple |
| 07:17.52 | Weems | How can I download and install xchat 2.4.4 for debian? its not in unstable |
| 07:18.01 | fooz | bob2, nokia's got some phones (coming out) that have 802.11b and bluetooth |
| 07:18.06 | fooz | bob2, but they're probably $500 |
| 07:18.15 | bob2 | hm |
| 07:18.19 | bob2 | I'd really like a 770 |
| 07:18.23 | doug_underscore | wireless is gonna ruin the internet like dns did! booh! |
| 07:18.24 | Coke | jm_: it does? OK, try to find the part that receives and recognizes the set kill on command. |
| 07:18.24 | fooz | ? |
| 07:18.26 | deeLer | i got a debian box running KDE, i'd like to connect to VNC server on a WinXP , but in the middle there is another text only debian box which does NAT for the XP . I got full access on the text-only debian box. Can i pass on my VNC session to my debian ? |
| 07:18.30 | bob2 | doug_underscore: I'd be benchmarking before I started tweaking |
| 07:18.40 | deeLer | KDE debian running VNC client -- routed connection ---> Text-debian (SSH) ----NAT---> Winxp (VNC server) ... possible ? |
| 07:18.46 | doug_underscore | bob2: ok cool. what would you apt get to start benchin? |
| 07:19.05 | bob2 | doug_underscore: are static pages faster to server than php ones? |
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| 07:19.14 | jm_ | Coke: it's the one that registers for notice signal (I think the function is called nickserv_notice) |
| 07:19.53 | doug_underscore | well, hmm.. everything i got is dynamic pretty much. put it this way, the bandwidth is always maxed out fully. |
| 07:20.05 | deeLer | anyone ? |
| 07:20.22 | doug_underscore | i just want to lower latency so people aren't waiting 20 seconds for the server to respond even if they get their high res goodness at .5K |
| 07:20.38 | Coke | jm_: yes, but where does it check and preform? |
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| 07:21.08 | Coke | jm_: I see nothing that looks like it kills. |
| 07:21.16 | bob2 | that sounds like your php scripts are shit |
| 07:21.24 | bob2 | I don't know how to benchmark/profile php |
| 07:21.31 | pajama | what is the content of /etc/apt/source.list for Sarge? |
| 07:21.56 | bob2 | if you got rid of it, run sudo apt-setup |
| 07:21.56 | pajama | I getting this error (sorry for the flood): Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 07:21.56 | pajama | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 07:21.56 | pajama | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 07:21.56 | pajama | or been moved out of Incoming. |
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| 07:22.09 | doug_underscore | well true, that does complicate things.. How bout this: would you make some static stuff and benchmark that, and presume those pages (assuming average size) would be optimized if the statics were? |
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| 07:22.24 | Coke | jm_: it doesn't matter. the only programming langauge I find more stupid than Java is actualy Perl, so I rather not get ankle deep into that pool of Perl. :) |
| 07:22.26 | bob2 | pajama: please use #flood |
| 07:22.27 | pajama | sorry |
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| 07:22.37 | pajama | yeah |
| 07:22.46 | bob2 | pajama: also, that doesn't sound like a problem with your sources.list except insomuch as you've added incompatible packages to it |
| 07:23.01 | pajama | bob2, how can I know which packages/ |
| 07:23.01 | doug_underscore | i mean.. if you optimized the statics, that's the best you could hope for for dynamics, and then it's down to tweaking your php/mysql stuff. |
| 07:23.02 | bob2 | doug_underscore: I'd see how fast staic pages server, and then figure out why php is slower than that |
| 07:23.11 | doug_underscore | Right |
| 07:23.12 | bob2 | pajama: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 07:23.13 | bob2 | doug_underscore: right |
| 07:23.23 | bob2 | perhaps zend would help |
| 07:23.25 | doug_underscore | bob2: you're brilliant to the second power |
| 07:23.30 | doug_underscore | secondth |
| 07:23.39 | jm_ | Coke: it doesn't kill, you'd have to add that yourself - but the problem with that is that nickserv doesn't send you a notice if you use a non-registered nick, right? |
| 07:24.20 | pajama | bob2, done |
| 07:24.21 | Coke | jm_: no, that's not the problem at all. the problem is that someone is using Coke even though it is registered and kill protection is on. |
| 07:24.24 | Weems | I cant find a .deb for xchat 2.4.4 |
| 07:24.29 | bob2 | pajama: and the full error from apt |
| 07:24.53 | jm_ | Coke: it just doesn't offer that for users |
| 07:25.42 | d0uglas | i'm interested in equipment so that I could telnet in to one box and tell it to start activating 120 volt power lines in a house when queued.. where ought i start looking for that? |
| 07:25.58 | pajama | bob2, done |
| 07:26.03 | bob2 | pajama: perhaps that mirror is broken |
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| 07:26.16 | Coke | jm_: yes, I noticed it was not implemented. but the nickserv manual I found on the net (because the nickserv on freenode does not provide any help for it) says kill protection recovers and releases the nick automatically if someone doesn't identify within n time units. |
| 07:26.19 | d0uglas | .. for turning on a pool and house heater, the stereo.. that stuff |
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| 07:26.21 | bob2 | some of them are after the main debian archive machine dropped off the internet while updating mirrors |
| 07:26.28 | bob2 | d0uglas: x10 makes stuff like that |
| 07:26.31 | bob2 | well, vaguely like that |
| 07:26.33 | jm_ | d0uglas: apt-cache show x10 |
| 07:26.37 | Coke | jm_: could have been another nickserv implementation? |
| 07:26.41 | pajama | bob2 which servers should I use then |
| 07:26.46 | d0uglas | jm_: do i need to do nonfree? |
| 07:26.58 | pajama | bob2, could you paste your sources.list please? |
| 07:27.00 | jm_ | Coke: it probably is implemented on some networks |
| 07:27.08 | jm_ | d0uglas: no, it's in main |
| 07:27.14 | d0uglas | thank you kindly |
| 07:27.24 | bob2 | no, mine won't help |
| 07:27.31 | bob2 | I don't know which one might work |
| 07:27.35 | bob2 | ftp.debian.org should |
| 07:28.23 | pajama | ;let me try |
| 07:28.28 | d0uglas | jm_: nice, just what i was looking for |
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| 07:28.41 | pajama | bob2, nope shame problem |
| 07:28.59 | pajama | I installed this server using chroot |
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| 07:29.24 | pajama | i changed sources.list from testing to stable |
| 07:29.37 | pajama | so I think it was installed as testing... I don't know wht |
| 07:29.50 | bob2 | it's possible you wedged it by doing that |
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| 07:30.00 | pajama | maybe some .debs were installed already, and they are testing |
| 07:30.01 | dimir | pajama: did you run 'apt-get update'? |
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| 07:30.07 | pajama | dimir: yeah |
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| 07:30.14 | dimir | right |
| 07:30.24 | pajama | dimir: before changing it from testing to stable |
| 07:30.36 | pajama | so basically I need to "downgrade" hehe |
| 07:30.42 | d0uglas | good luck |
| 07:30.50 | pajama | it updated only one package, I cant remember wich one |
| 07:30.56 | pajama | is there any log of installed packages |
| 07:31.00 | dimir | well, the changes to the sources.list do not affect until you run it. |
| 07:31.00 | pajama | maybe I could remove it |
| 07:31.11 | dimir | dpkg -l 'pkg_name' |
| 07:31.12 | dpkg | ii 'pkg_name' 3.6-15 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 07:31.21 | d0uglas | once you go whatever word that might be related to this specific situation, you never go back .. |
| 07:31.26 | dimir | and it supports regexp |
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| 07:31.35 | dimir | dpkg -l 'some_shit' |
| 07:31.36 | dpkg | ii 'some_shit' 3.8-15 dimir's private stamp collection |
| 07:31.37 | dimir | :-P |
| 07:31.41 | dimir | lol |
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| 07:31.44 | pajama | dimir: I can't remember the package name |
| 07:31.50 | dimir | dpkg -l 'sexy_babes' |
| 07:31.50 | dpkg | No packages found matching 'sexy_babes' |
| 07:31.57 | dimir | goddamn |
| 07:31.59 | dimir | dpkg -i sexy-babes |
| 07:32.09 | dimir | ouch! |
| 07:32.14 | pajama | is there anything like /var/log/apt-get-installed.log ? |
| 07:32.28 | bob2 | no |
| 07:32.30 | dimir | pajama: use dpkg -l |
| 07:32.31 | liable | pajama: use aptitude, and there is. |
| 07:32.31 | bob2 | aptitude has one |
| 07:32.34 | bob2 | and sid's dpkg has one |
| 07:32.36 | Coke | dimir: you're lucky, I got bash installed in my anus yesterday |
| 07:32.46 | wobbler | pajama: you need to do another update after you change your sources list |
| 07:32.50 | dimir | lol @ Coke |
| 07:32.59 | Coke | !lol |
| 07:32.59 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
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| 07:33.36 | pajama | wobbler, I know |
| 07:33.44 | wobbler | ok |
| 07:33.49 | Coke | WHAT! Kill a porn star? Punish the good doers of the world? greycat must be mad. |
| 07:33.51 | pajama | :-) |
| 07:33.52 | bob2 | I'm lazy and I'd just install apache from testing |
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| 07:34.02 | bob2 | also I have a headache and are too lazy to figure it out properly |
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| 07:34.34 | pajama | bob2, is there anythink I could do? |
| 07:34.40 | dimir | goddamn! |
| 07:35.24 | d0uglas | where can i find the lesbian debian porn-get package? |
| 07:35.30 | pajama | you know what: I installed this server over a running Linux server: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 07:35.40 | bob2 | er |
| 07:35.43 | pajama | so it was basically a NIGHTMARE |
| 07:35.54 | pajama | I don't wan't to do it again... :-) |
| 07:36.05 | Fatal | d0uglas: lesbian.mine.nu iirc |
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| 07:36.18 | d0uglas | nightmares i can handle... just not the capital-letteredly spelled ones. |
| 07:36.26 | pajama | hehe |
| 07:36.30 | d0uglas | ty fatal |
| 07:36.43 | bob2 | you could be ultra lazy and install apache2 |
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| 07:37.27 | pajama | hummmm,,, but what if later I need to install something else, and it fails again? |
| 07:37.27 | ircdevil | møjn |
| 07:37.35 | d0uglas | if you plan to run a lot of stuff that slivers around apache, might want to stick to regular apache and leave apache 2 alone |
| 07:38.01 | bob2 | then you'll need to unfuck it |
| 07:38.03 | pajama | bob2, I think I'll have to install everything again.... and edit /etc/apt/source.list as the first thing inside the chroot |
| 07:38.13 | bob2 | which shouldn't be too hard, but I'm too tired, sorry |
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| 07:38.23 | ircdevil | loop( print verbose; sleep 5 ) |
| 07:38.24 | ircdevil | ? |
| 07:38.34 | bob2 | work to do :/ |
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| 07:38.41 | billions | Hey thanks again bob =) |
| 07:38.44 | d0uglas | Hey what's that program that synchronizes your system clock with some big time clock server out there? and what's a good one of those as well? |
| 07:38.54 | bob2 | d0uglas: ntpdate, pool.ntp.org |
| 07:38.55 | baltikum | can anyone recommend a good PPPoE-client for Debian? |
| 07:38.58 | gudi | ntp-server |
| 07:38.58 | ircdevil | loop( print random( verbose ); sleep 5 ) ? |
| 07:39.01 | d0uglas | NICE. thanks. |
| 07:39.05 | bob2 | baltikum: just use the default |
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| 07:39.26 | gudi | d0uglas, ntp-server is better cause it use a drift |
| 07:39.47 | d0uglas | oh for perfect perfect synching? |
| 07:39.50 | d0uglas | i'm not that ocd |
| 07:39.55 | baltikum | I'm not going to use it myself, I work at an ISP@tech support, and I got a question from a customer wondering about PPPoE on Debian. We don't support Linux officially, but thought I'd give it a shot here. |
| 07:39.59 | mdh | baltikum: pppoe |
| 07:40.08 | baltikum | that's the package name? |
| 07:40.23 | dabaR | baltikum: you are joking abotu taht. |
| 07:40.38 | dabaR | about the tech support, and that, you must use linux, or something. |
| 07:40.47 | baltikum | not really |
| 07:40.48 | dabaR | hwo would you know this is where to ask... |
| 07:40.55 | mdh | baltikum: yes, there's also a pppoeconf package, and a webmin-adsl package that lets you administer pppoe using webmin (which is a web-based admin tool) |
| 07:40.56 | baltikum | I use debian, but I've never had to use PPPoE |
| 07:41.07 | dabaR | tell them to type in sudo pppoeconf in a terminal |
| 07:41.09 | bob2 | baltikum: run 'pppoeconf'. fill in details. run 'pon' to connect. enjoy! |
| 07:41.17 | baltikum | ok, thanks a lot :) |
| 07:41.23 | dabaR | or, as root, pppoeconf |
| 07:41.31 | mdh | !pppoe |
| 07:41.32 | dpkg | well, pppoe is ppp over ethernet, apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf and read /usr/share/doc/pppoe/README.Debian This is rp-pppoe, but with the scripts rewritten. For PPPOE support in 2.4 kernels enable EXPERIMENTAL Features and go to Network Device Support |
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| 07:42.08 | mdh | and on that note, I need to P off |
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| 07:43.26 | mushy | hello i have only used freebsd but i havnt been able to get my wireless net to work with freebsd i was wondering if debian has a wider support for wireless card |
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| 07:44.54 | gudi | anyone here use a dell 2650 with debian ? hopw can i check for raid status ? |
| 07:44.59 | resiak | mushy: Of course, we're meant to just know instinctively what card you have, right ? |
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| 07:45.04 | Gospel | hello |
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| 07:45.08 | Gospel | any1 here? |
| 07:45.14 | resiak | No |
| 07:45.18 | buu | Gospel: What the fuck is wrong with you? |
| 07:45.23 | Gospel | ok |
| 07:45.32 | mushy | well that i dont exactly know it is some onboard one with a dell laptop |
| 07:45.42 | mushy | it didnt have a specific name |
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| 07:46.32 | resiak | Yes it does. lspci would tell you. |
| 07:46.34 | dabaR | mushy: sure it did. |
| 07:47.02 | mushy | well how do i know it |
| 07:47.10 | dabaR | ^ |
| 07:47.15 | resiak | ... |
| 07:47.30 | mushy | lspci isnt a command |
| 07:47.30 | Gospel | resiak how u been? |
| 07:48.17 | resiak | mushy: It is in Linux. Boot a livecd, run it. Hell, how would you expect to get it working in FreeBSD if you don't know what kind it is? |
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| 07:49.08 | mushy | i dunno im new to all this |
| 07:49.17 | dabaR | mushy: ok, well, good luck. |
| 07:49.21 | mushy | ok |
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| 07:49.38 | resiak | The #freebsd folks will probably know how to figure out what it is. |
| 07:50.11 | mushy | ok |
| 07:50.34 | ircdevil | mushy: apt-get install pciutils (gives you lspci) |
| 07:50.52 | resiak | ircdevil: mushy isn't on Debian ... |
| 07:51.03 | mushy | pkg_add might have it |
| 07:51.05 | mushy | hold |
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| 07:51.16 | ircdevil | resiak: oh :o) are we helping preparing him reinstall using debian? |
| 07:51.30 | mushy | i can reinstall |
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| 07:51.35 | mushy | im just wondering if my card will work |
| 07:51.46 | mushy | i know if i buy a new card i can get it to work on freebsd |
| 07:51.50 | mushy | but i dont wanna buy one |
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| 07:52.05 | aidehua | Does anyone recall a way to make a keypress (in X) do a middle-mouse-paste? |
| 07:52.15 | ircdevil | mushy: test with some live cd if you have to (knoppix or whatever) then install debian :o) |
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| 07:52.31 | aidehua | (Reaching for my mouse strains my feeble frame.) |
| 07:52.43 | resiak | mushy: First step is to figure out what model the card is. |
| 07:52.47 | billions | +_+ you're not the only one aidehua |
| 07:52.49 | mushy | mushy# lspci |
| 07:52.49 | mushy | lspci: fbsd_read: ioctl(PCIOCREAD) failed |
| 07:53.07 | mushy | oh well i will do live cd |
| 07:53.13 | resiak | mushy: This _isn't_ #freebsd . |
| 07:53.38 | mushy | they are dead in there |
| 07:53.40 | mushy | im sorry |
| 07:53.48 | mushy | goodbye |
| 07:53.50 | d0uglas | mushy don't beat yourself up over it |
| 07:53.57 | d0uglas | c'mon buddy hang in there. |
| 07:53.58 | billions | hehe best of luck |
| 07:54.00 | ircdevil | d0uglas: we will :o) |
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| 07:54.03 | billions | you'll get it working |
| 07:54.09 | d0uglas | 'atta boy! |
| 07:54.12 | mushy | oh yes i will get it working |
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| 07:54.14 | d0uglas | go get'em champ |
| 07:55.14 | billions | well I have 2 things I'd like to work on if anyone feels like throwing me a bone =P |
| 07:55.27 | d0uglas | What are those two things |
| 07:55.30 | billions | does anyone use Eterm? |
| 07:55.36 | mushy | would yall recomend debian over freebsd for a desktop? |
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| 07:55.46 | d0uglas | mushy: yes |
| 07:55.55 | mushy | may i ask why |
| 07:56.04 | will___ | whats this crap i cant use apt because of some /var/lib/dpkg/status error? WTF?? |
| 07:56.40 | Trewas | meh, upgrade from ubuntus xorg to debian's own package now that it is ready does not seem to be entirely straightforward |
| 07:56.46 | dabaR | mushy: cause this is #debian, for 1. |
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| 07:57.01 | billions | 0/0 hehehehe |
| 07:57.08 | d0uglas | mushy: because freebsd is a little more "specialized" for the Joe Servers of the world whereas most linux distros are moving toward end user non serving things but for a normal home desktop that people use to type things on and watch porn. |
| 07:57.13 | Brolly | what processors ist i686? |
| 07:57.39 | d0uglas | what tempts you about freebsd? |
| 07:57.42 | will___ | can someone hELP APT DOESNT WORK i get a /var/lib/dpkg/status ERROR!!!!!?? |
| 07:57.57 | mushy | so it makes porn watching easyer? i notice it can get to be trick on fbsd |
| 07:58.07 | bob2 | will___: chill the hell out |
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| 07:58.16 | bob2 | will___: and paste the error to #flood |
| 07:58.21 | d0uglas | that's not exactly what i meant but.. ehh nevermind |
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| 07:58.48 | will___ | E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or directory) |
| 07:58.57 | d0uglas | try going into #freebsd and asking if you should use freebsd over linux |
| 07:59.08 | will___ | after it ag updates and downloads all that |
| 07:59.10 | d0uglas | and then follow up with May i ask why? |
| 07:59.29 | bob2 | will___: someone or something has trashed your hard disk |
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| 07:59.45 | d0uglas | personally, my only reason ever to install freebsd is to say Yeah I'm down with UNIX, yo! but at the moment i have no need to say that |
| 07:59.53 | mushy | well im considering using debian for desktop so i thought i would ask the ones who use it why they like it i will be keeping freebsd on my server |
| 07:59.56 | dabaR | I am wondering why is my xine in debian choppy for videos on my disk, that are not choppy in totem. |
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| 08:00.11 | will___ | bob2: no linux is just a piece of crap |
| 08:00.17 | billions | so can -.- |
| 08:00.20 | billions | err.... |
| 08:00.20 | bob2 | will___: well, whatever you reckon |
| 08:00.24 | billions | crap eh will |
| 08:00.26 | bob2 | will___: someone or something removed that file |
| 08:00.42 | d0uglas | mushy: I can tell you this, i've used so many distros over the years and deb's the best for my broad range of needs and i am nowhere near a whiz like these guys here |
| 08:00.55 | dabaR | d0uglas: nice about end users above. |
| 08:01.00 | Brolly | what procesors ist i686? |
| 08:01.04 | d0uglas | ... thanks :) |
| 08:01.12 | dabaR | Does abnyone have input about the xine thing? |
| 08:01.35 | mushy | does debian have a boot from cd option to try it |
| 08:01.37 | liable | dabaR: try a different video driver. |
| 08:01.42 | d0uglas | another good thing bout deb is the business card iso net install thing |
| 08:01.43 | cat | hey i have a question how can i view users loged in into my apache website for example to tell me what there doing and stuff |
| 08:01.53 | liable | mushy: no. |
| 08:02.00 | dabaR | liable inside xine? it will crash it I can feel it. |
| 08:02.05 | cat | is there something i should download to see the users? |
| 08:02.09 | liable | dabaR: oh well... |
| 08:02.12 | Brolly | That processors are i686? |
| 08:02.14 | mushy | they say ubuntu but it doesnt work on my machine |
| 08:02.15 | d0uglas | mushy: it'll not be anywhere near the same but google knoppix |
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| 08:02.18 | dabaR | liable inside xine? |
| 08:02.23 | liable | dabaR: yeah |
| 08:02.27 | dabaR | k |
| 08:02.29 | dabaR | :)_ |
| 08:02.33 | d0uglas | You want to VNC to my box and see what it looks like with a big lag? |
| 08:02.38 | bob2 | cat: apache doesn't havea concept of people logging in |
| 08:02.45 | mushy | does knoppix support the same stuff as debian |
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| 08:03.01 | dabaR | l;inux supports same things as linux |
| 08:03.07 | d0uglas | and sometimes unix |
| 08:03.14 | cat | bob2 oh so i can't see what other people are doing on my machine, |
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| 08:03.22 | cat | for example when they view pages |
| 08:03.37 | bob2 | cat: sure, you can watch your logs |
| 08:03.56 | cat | with what program? |
| 08:04.01 | dabaR | distro just sits on top of linux, diff distros have diff modules enable din kernels, and also have diff versions of the kernel. |
| 08:04.06 | liable | mushy: more stuffs I think. (probably, unfounded assumption) |
| 08:04.07 | bob2 | tail -f /var/log/access.log |
| 08:04.07 | d0uglas | mushy: linux has in the past few years really enlarged as the Bandwagon and thus is getting more developers to prune their warez to linux |
| 08:04.08 | mushy | does debian have a cute mascot like freebsd though? i think that is why i keep holding on |
| 08:04.17 | dabaR | ha |
| 08:04.18 | dabaR | nice |
| 08:04.20 | bemused0 | lol |
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| 08:04.31 | liable | mushy: tux. |
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| 08:04.38 | mushy | tux is alright |
| 08:04.45 | bemused0 | its got an um little spiral thing |
| 08:04.49 | liable | well, not really debian, but linux in geneal |
| 08:04.57 | d0uglas | mushy: you gotta try tuxracer, it's the best game, staring Tux the mascot penguin |
| 08:05.01 | pengo_ | the spiral thing obviously need googly eyes |
| 08:05.04 | mushy | i have played tuxracer |
| 08:05.17 | d0uglas | well, did you do well? then install linux |
| 08:05.33 | mushy | whats tux racer got to do with linux |
| 08:05.52 | d0uglas | otherwise if you believe in evil and george bush go with the evil satanic mascot family's distro |
| 08:05.53 | liable | thats what I was wondering... |
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| 08:06.13 | litage | is there a way to setup a hotkey combo that simulates middle-clicking? |
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| 08:06.18 | mushy | hes not evil |
| 08:06.26 | mushy | i wanted a tattoo of him ]= |
| 08:06.31 | mushy | my girlfriend stopped me |
| 08:06.34 | mushy | uggh |
| 08:06.35 | bemused0 | Question: anyone know a fix for vmware debian host (debian as host, not guest) issue .... |
| 08:06.43 | d0uglas | He does attract hot chicks to dress up as him at these linux expos |
| 08:06.49 | d0uglas | i'll give him that |
| 08:07.09 | ircdevil | i have a peculiar problem with lyx. i only have the option of export->PDF(pdflatex) and not export->PDF - the latter allows track changes feature, but i seem to be missing something in my installation here - what can it be? |
| 08:07.12 | d0uglas | we need a more feminine penguin to lead the way for debian |
| 08:07.23 | billions | mmm...penguin chick hentai |
| 08:07.29 | bemused0 | haha |
| 08:07.32 | mushy | have yall seen tux and beastie sitting by the camp fire? |
| 08:07.33 | richie086 | heya.. i am running debian and just installed apache and webmin.. for some odd reason i keep getting an error saying that my webserver is in SSL only mode.. I try to connect to webmin using https://ipaddress:10000 but it keeps saying "you are not authorized to view this page" |
| 08:07.36 | bemused0 | what about ayo's debian bitches? |
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| 08:08.19 | d0uglas | which brings us to this issue: is it as perverted when the animals are animated and not filmed? |
| 08:08.20 | mushy | http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_wallpapers_full/123.php |
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| 08:08.41 | Person | hello |
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| 08:08.46 | d0uglas | hi |
| 08:08.47 | billions | d0uglas: no comment =P |
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| 08:09.45 | Person | any ppc debian users in here? |
| 08:09.58 | deadcat | Person: roger that |
| 08:10.07 | Person | are you? |
| 08:10.12 | deadcat | si |
| 08:10.25 | deadcat | i am the one you are looking for |
| 08:10.34 | Person | how many partitions do i need? |
| 08:10.48 | deadcat | Person: hows that go to do with ppc ? |
| 08:10.52 | concept10 | Anyone ever setup a moinmoin wiki using apt-get? |
| 08:10.58 | Person | the boot loader |
| 08:11.03 | dabaR | well, bob2 why is my xine in debian choppy for videos on my disk, that are not choppy in totem? Also, the xine is only choppy in full screen. Also, there are too many video drivers, is there a particular one I could try? |
| 08:11.12 | dabaR | not bob2, sorry. |
| 08:11.15 | deadcat | Person: oh. are in in the installation or somewhere else? |
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| 08:11.33 | billions | can anyone help me configure my Eterm settings? |
| 08:11.41 | Person | im not installing right now |
| 08:11.44 | Person | but |
| 08:11.53 | deadcat | Person: if you are in the installation, debian will automatically create the apple bootable partitions. |
| 08:11.55 | shimano55 | Question, What plugin do I have to download to get Totem to play a stream from the internet? |
| 08:12.02 | Person | oh |
| 08:12.04 | Person | cool |
| 08:12.12 | Person | thanks |
| 08:12.25 | deadcat | Person: woody was hell. )=. sarge has a GUI thing |
| 08:12.35 | Person | is that the newest one? |
| 08:12.41 | deadcat | sarge is. |
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| 08:12.46 | mushy | HAIL KAKA! |
| 08:12.46 | Person | kewl |
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| 08:12.53 | billions | yeeeah I just istalled it a while ago =) |
| 08:13.04 | Person | is debian better then yellow dog? |
| 08:13.07 | d0uglas | hey billions, are you in seattle or british columbia by any chance? |
| 08:13.13 | deadcat | Person: fuck yellow doggy style |
| 08:13.18 | Person | haha |
| 08:13.21 | billions | oooh BC you know it bro ;) |
| 08:13.28 | Person | thats what i have been using for years |
| 08:13.35 | d0uglas | I knew it! ... but xtraceroute didn't :( |
| 08:13.47 | deadcat | Person: i tried yd on an oldworld ppc. boy that sucked. |
| 08:13.52 | Person | hehe |
| 08:13.54 | billions | hahaha why not |
| 08:14.02 | Person | 2.3 is good for old world macs |
| 08:14.19 | zl2tod | 'sup wid sid ? |
| 08:14.32 | deadcat | zl2tod: its unstable |
| 08:14.36 | litage | if using exim, if i prevent it from starting on bootup, will local delivery still occur? (eg: local alerts) |
| 08:14.44 | zl2tod | thanks |
| 08:14.53 | d0uglas | anyone know how xtraceroute knows which routers are where? a database of nice router people who reported the longitude/latitude of their routers? or do they send a WHEREYOUAT command to the router? |
| 08:14.59 | Person | do you know if there is 3d acceleration for a ati rage 128? |
| 08:15.09 | concept10 | Do you have to insert all webserver files into the apache directory? I just installed moin moin using apt and they went into /usr/share/moin |
| 08:15.32 | deadcat | Person: dont think theres one for ppc. but i use the radeon in default kernel and i get ~700fps |
| 08:15.41 | Person | sweet |
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| 08:16.16 | d0uglas | deadcat, what are you ever going to do with all those frames? |
| 08:16.19 | Person | jaguar is way too slow on my 225MHz 604e |
| 08:16.27 | zl2tod | ogod - everytime i cme in here people are pissing framerates up against the wall |
| 08:16.36 | d0uglas | i got an 85 jag xj6 and i got it up to 115mph |
| 08:16.44 | dabaR | great, that sure did fix it, liable, thank you lots. |
| 08:16.47 | d0uglas | it's so old the odometer broke |
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| 08:17.54 | deadcat | d0uglas: will need it when xcompmgr and transset gets into debian |
| 08:17.56 | d0uglas | Person: ... you're refering to the kde thingamajig? |
| 08:17.58 | billions | hey d0ug - what is xtraceroute apt-cached under? |
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| 08:18.14 | d0uglas | xt |
| 08:18.19 | Person | i was talking about mac OS 10.2 |
| 08:18.20 | billions | cool thanks =) |
| 08:18.37 | d0uglas | deadcat: how long you think until that happens |
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| 08:18.47 | deadcat | xt only points to to a close by country |
| 08:18.54 | deadcat | d0uglas: 1-2 weeks |
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| 08:19.12 | Person | anyone up for a game of quake 3? |
| 08:19.16 | d0uglas | well what's better for xting purposes than xt |
| 08:19.31 | deadcat | Person: my friend is hella good (=. he raped the entire room at school |
| 08:19.34 | jm_ | there's also geoip-bin |
| 08:19.37 | d0uglas | i get maybe one out of thirty hits on routers when doing traces |
| 08:19.39 | Person | hehe |
| 08:19.44 | Person | quake 3 is the best |
| 08:19.54 | deadcat | map17? |
| 08:19.58 | Person | ya |
| 08:20.03 | billions | so geoip-bin or xt? |
| 08:20.03 | Person | instaunlagged |
| 08:20.09 | d0uglas | geoip-bin? map17? thanks |
| 08:20.11 | deadcat | ya. rail is scary |
| 08:20.18 | Person | ya it is |
| 08:20.34 | deadcat | Person: he made all the players in the lab negative while hes + |
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| 08:20.43 | Person | sweet |
| 08:20.48 | Person | got to love that game |
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| 08:20.58 | Person | too bad it wont play on ppc linux |
| 08:21.04 | deadcat | haha. |
| 08:21.33 | jeje | hi |
| 08:21.37 | Person | hi |
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| 08:21.49 | billions | how does one change what debian mirror is serving them? |
| 08:21.52 | jeje | there is a problem with updates in sid ? |
| 08:22.02 | deadcat | billions: apt-setup |
| 08:22.03 | bob2 | billions: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:22.11 | billions | deadcat : ty |
| 08:22.12 | liable | billions: apt-setup |
| 08:22.13 | liable | jeje: /topic |
| 08:22.18 | bob2 | jeje: /topic, newraff = ftp-master = where packages get uploaded to |
| 08:22.23 | d0uglas | ok got geo-ip but is this map17 thing not on apt? |
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| 08:22.42 | deadcat | d0uglas: map17 is for quake 3 |
| 08:22.50 | Person | just got a radeon 9200 for my g3 |
| 08:22.51 | billions | bahahahaha |
| 08:22.58 | d0uglas | hrm. |
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| 08:32.18 | deadcat | Person: ati 7500 radeon, 32mb |
| 08:32.18 | mkrause | hi |
| 08:32.18 | bob2 | heh, I liked my ibook |
| 08:32.18 | ma3x | why always when i open a file with kedit, if the filename is file.txt, it always creates a 2nd one - file.txt~ |
| 08:32.21 | Person | cool |
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| 08:32.25 | bob2 | it was solid |
| 08:32.30 | deadcat | bob2: yours is g4. (=.. |
| 08:32.41 | d0uglas | so are sunglasses the way to go to protect your eyes from extended comp use? |
| 08:32.45 | bob2 | deadcat: yeah, but you still have yours, so we're even ;) |
| 08:32.45 | deadcat | bob2: you dont own it no more eh? |
| 08:32.51 | deadcat | hahah |
| 08:32.53 | Person | is that ethernet cable from frys? |
| 08:32.54 | bob2 | deadcat: "sold" it to my sister |
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| 08:33.04 | Person | hehe |
| 08:33.05 | bob2 | in the sense that she has it, and I didn't get any money for it |
| 08:33.06 | d0uglas | overuse of the blood vessel popping variety |
| 08:33.08 | mkrause | Is it possible to install gcc 4 on sarge but leaving gcc 3.3.5 as system default? |
| 08:33.13 | liable | ma3x: its a back up file. |
| 08:33.16 | deadcat | bob2: sold? whatever happen to give something to your sister? |
| 08:33.24 | Tuttle | hi, I have two debian servers with the same configuration, both have LANG=en_US.UTF-8. One of them serves Samba for Windows workstations with setting "unix charset = utf8". It works great. Now I wish to utilize this mount from the other server, but I cannot manage to proper mount the share, that is capable to maintain correct charset in filenames. No sane combination of iocharset and corepage options gives the right filenames. Please help. |
| 08:33.43 | bob2 | deadcat: one day I'll be wealthy enough to give a $1500 notebook away |
| 08:33.45 | bob2 | but not today |
| 08:33.54 | bob2 | mkrause: sure, just install gcc-4.0 |
| 08:33.59 | d0uglas | how long has debian's longest streak of a default install lasting w/o any known remote rootable holes? |
| 08:33.59 | ma3x | liable : in case sudden shutdown happens, or something like that or of what purpose? |
| 08:34.03 | deadcat | bob2: hehe. well atleast the damn wireless card will be in good use. |
| 08:34.09 | mkrause | bob2: from etch? |
| 08:34.17 | liable | ma3x: its the old file, before it was edited. |
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| 08:34.21 | dimir | Tuttle: possibly windose server does not do UTF-8. |
| 08:34.28 | bob2 | d0uglas: not really fair, the default install is tiny |
| 08:34.37 | bob2 | d0uglas: with only inetd listening |
| 08:35.02 | d0uglas | well you know how openbsd boasts only one in seven years... the default install wording. |
| 08:35.12 | mkrause | bob2: isn't gcc-4.0 the default CC for etch? I guess this would make some trouble on my sarge system. ABI changed |
| 08:35.13 | Tuttle | dimir: I do not use windows server in this configuration |
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| 08:35.29 | ma3x | liable: i have really no idea how to use xmodmap and xbindkeys for the multimedia button |
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| 08:35.34 | bob2 | mkrause: no |
| 08:35.39 | dimir | Tuttle: but who/what do not read the share properly? |
| 08:35.44 | d0uglas | and why does debian not install with apt-get update;apt-get upgrade going once a week on default |
| 08:35.45 | deadcat | well. i better hit the shower. i smell bad. (= |
| 08:35.45 | ma3x | the first unclear idea i have is: how do i know which button is the mail button? |
| 08:35.50 | bob2 | mkrause: guess 4.0 isn't in sarge then |
| 08:35.51 | liable | ma3x: well, guess you better google and read :) |
| 08:35.54 | Tuttle | dimir: another same debian server as is samba one |
| 08:35.54 | ma3x | or the browser button- when i press it, nothing comes up in dmesg |
| 08:36.00 | bob2 | d0uglas: because that's not safe |
| 08:36.03 | mkrause | bob2: no it isn't :) |
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| 08:36.07 | Person | oops |
| 08:36.14 | d0uglas | ok i can picture why |
| 08:36.26 | travolta | ma3x, use xev to figure out what the buttons are |
| 08:36.43 | dimir | Tuttle: You mount over what, nfs? |
| 08:36.45 | ma3x | hey Jonh Travolta! |
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| 08:36.54 | travolta | :) |
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| 08:37.00 | liable | ma3x: run xev, press the button, find the keycode, re-assign it with xmodmap, bind it to email with xbindkeys. |
| 08:37.05 | Person | will sarge work on old word macs? |
| 08:37.11 | YonaX | hey |
| 08:37.19 | Person | old world* |
| 08:37.25 | majik | hi i just compiled the 2.6.12.3 kernel and it made a vmlinuz file, but what about the initrd img? |
| 08:37.36 | ma3x | liable : then what do i need xmodmap for? |
| 08:37.36 | Tuttle | dimir: when I touch file with national chacters in the name from the other server, it is written in bad codepage on the first samba server, not proper utf-8 as the ext3 filesystem expects. from windows clients, samba tranaslates it ok. |
| 08:37.38 | dimir | Tuttle: or it's just the share of a samba server itself? |
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| 08:37.55 | liable | majik: did you tell it to? |
| 08:38.05 | ma3x | that's strange: i have 5 buttons, and 2 of them give info in xev, but the other 3 give nothing |
| 08:38.08 | ma3x | what does that mean? |
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| 08:38.09 | majik | liable: i dont know how to? |
| 08:38.17 | ma3x | that only 2 of the buttons can work? |
| 08:38.27 | liable | majik: guess you better read some docs then? |
| 08:38.32 | Tuttle | dimir: I wouldn't mention samba if I were use NFS for this? :) |
| 08:38.33 | d0uglas | parenthetically, scientology.org runs windows |
| 08:38.36 | dimir | Tuttle: how is that share mounted to the other server? |
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| 08:38.48 | dimir | Tuttle: OK :-) |
| 08:38.50 | liable | ma3x: probably, if xev doesnt pick it up, I dunno what you can do. |
| 08:38.56 | majik | liable: i have been for 2 days. getting pretty tired of it |
| 08:38.58 | Tuttle | dimir: mount -o iocharset=utf8,codepage=cp850,guest |
| 08:39.01 | resiak | !tell majik about kp |
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| 08:39.09 | d0uglas | in other words it does not run debian which makes it an invalid religion |
| 08:40.05 | Tuttle | dimir: but any other possible combination that came to my mind didn't help also.... there are many different bad charset translations :) |
| 08:40.18 | dimir | Tuttle: just getting it straight. So you mounted the share to the other server using smbmount? |
| 08:40.19 | d0uglas | Does a program exist that will let you mount a remote hard drive and operate it from regular shell commands as if you weren't in FTP (though you are)? know what i'm getting at? |
| 08:40.32 | d0uglas | (using FTP) |
| 08:40.53 | jm_ | d0uglas: NFS, SMB, CIFS, or even ftpfs (needs LUFS) |
| 08:41.07 | dimir | ftp_mount? |
| 08:41.08 | Person | deadcat:whats that usb dongle lookin thing next to the laptop? |
| 08:41.08 | Tuttle | dimir: do not know if it's using smbmount. I just do mount and it tells that ir chooses smbfs because of the // at the beginning of remote path. |
| 08:41.15 | dimir | :-) havent heard of it |
| 08:41.17 | dimir | :-P |
| 08:41.27 | dimir | oh, ok |
| 08:42.11 | concept10 | What is the command to get free mem? |
| 08:42.26 | dimir | Tuttle: and the locales on both servers are UTF-8 for sure? |
| 08:42.34 | dimir | concept10: free |
| 08:42.42 | d0uglas | is samba originally a "windows thing" that we embraced and extended or the other way around |
| 08:42.49 | dimir | concept10: free -m (to get it in megabytes) |
| 08:42.52 | d0uglas | we meaning *x people |
| 08:42.56 | bob2 | it was designed to use the SMB protocol |
| 08:43.06 | jm_ | no, Samba is a Unix thing - but the SMB protocol is a Windows thing |
| 08:43.06 | bob2 | and oringally was writtin on some old unix at my university |
| 08:43.10 | d0uglas | i mean the whole thing from the beginning, so the protocol itself |
| 08:43.14 | bob2 | SMB predates windows |
| 08:43.15 | bob2 | afaik |
| 08:43.18 | d0uglas | oh |
| 08:43.28 | concept10 | dimir, thanks. |
| 08:43.35 | dimir | concept10: no problemo |
| 08:43.38 | bob2 | http://samba.org/cifs/docs/smb-history.html |
| 08:43.42 | d0uglas | hrmm.. well let me put it this way, Is it cool, or is it whack? |
| 08:43.47 | jm_ | nice |
| 08:43.49 | Tuttle | dimir: cat /etc/environment - LANG=en_US.UTF-8, but now I think it's possible I didn't reboot since the setting of /etc/environment. May this matter? |
| 08:43.59 | bob2 | yeah, from before windows existed |
| 08:44.05 | bob2 | d0uglas: depends what you want to do |
| 08:44.07 | dimir | concept10: you can check the swap also with '-t' option |
| 08:44.10 | bob2 | CIFS looks kinda cool |
| 08:44.23 | d0uglas | Did MS screw it up a little over the years? is that what i'm gonna find on that url bob? |
| 08:44.29 | concept10 | How do I reboot my machine from run level 2 with GDM back into command line only? |
| 08:44.36 | dimir | Tuttle: run 'locale', what does it give you? |
| 08:44.59 | bob2 | concept10: I'm pretty sure I've told you inthe past to make a runlevel that doesn't start gdm |
| 08:45.04 | bob2 | concept10: e.g. sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm |
| 08:45.30 | dimir | Tuttle: the locale, especially on the client, from which (as I understood) you do the writing to the filesystem, has definitely be set correctrly to UTF-8. |
| 08:45.48 | concept10 | bob2, no didnt get that before. Someone told me to reboot with linux single |
| 08:45.58 | bob2 | concept10: ah, my aplogies |
| 08:46.02 | concept10 | bob2, but thanks |
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| 08:46.19 | rixth | Interesting. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ << Still cites the net release as 1.1 |
| 08:46.20 | liable | concept10: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 08:46.36 | rixth | Erm, next. |
| 08:47.33 | concept10 | liable, I will try that. |
| 08:47.39 | d0ug | I do a lot of ns look upping and sometimes i feel guilty about straining up my ISP's nameservers.. if i installed bind on my own box, would it be as if i were just transfering some data around, connecting to this and that to update my cache or whatever? |
| 08:48.00 | concept10 | I was thinking that you could do some shutdown command and specify what run level you wanted to reboot to. |
| 08:48.02 | jm_ | bind can work as a caching name server, there's also dnsmasq |
| 08:48.16 | liable | concept10: init x |
| 08:48.20 | Tuttle | dimir: Now I managed something strange: the filename created when seen from the samba server is: x:0161y:017e:017e:010d:011b:0161, :nnn seem to be some kind of UTF-8 representation.. there is 'x' and 'y' on the 1st and 3rd place of the original |
| 08:48.22 | liable | concept10: man init |
| 08:48.28 | d0ug | jm_: well you know what i'm trying to say.. what would you recommend? |
| 08:48.47 | d0ug | really i just want something to crunch access.logs that only have ips into hosts |
| 08:49.01 | jm_ | d0ug: I use dnsmasq, it's way simpler, but I suppose there are some howtos for bind out there |
| 08:49.01 | dimir | Tuttle: use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
| 08:49.20 | d0ug | won't need the howtos if i got dnsmasq. thanks. |
| 08:49.27 | dimir | Tuttle: set default to UTF-8 and reboot, if not set as default. |
| 08:49.43 | dimir | Tuttle: that is weird indeed. :-) |
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| 08:50.05 | Tuttle | dimir: it is set as default, see that /etc/environment - LANG setting |
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| 08:50.20 | dimir | Tuttle: maybe now it's time to play with these charset options to mount :-) |
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| 08:50.31 | Tuttle | it's UTF-8 everywhere. I did dpkg-reconfigure locales previously to get to this state. |
| 08:50.32 | jm_ | you also need to ensure that your login method honours environment file |
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| 08:51.01 | Tuttle | dimir: I've been playing with it for about an hour and still got many bad charset translations. |
| 08:51.20 | alus | so the nsis package does not compile an nsis script I have |
| 08:51.27 | alus | who would I talk to about this? |
| 08:51.47 | lwolf | hi, i need help to configure Zope and Fastcgi with Apache 2 under debian Sarge. I've followed some howto that speak of this, but i came to to errors : dpkg -i /usr/src/libapache2-mod-fastcgi_2.4.2-20040414_i386.deb |
| 08:52.03 | lwolf | hi, i need help to configure Zope and Fastcgi with Apache 2 under debian Sarge. I've followed some howto that speak of this, but i came to to errors : )No such file or directory: FastCGI: stat() of "/var/www/zope" failed |
| 08:52.14 | boguh | how can i screen force to start with two programmes running, ie starting irssi and centericq in screen? |
| 08:52.17 | bob2 | zope has it's own web server |
| 08:52.22 | lwolf | and the other error : FastCGI: invalid (dynamic) server "/var/www/zope": access for server (uid 33, gid 33) not allowed: execute not allowed |
| 08:52.25 | Person | gnight all |
| 08:52.25 | dimir | Tuttle: I mean now, that you are getting at least some possible representation of UTF :-) |
| 08:52.28 | bob2 | boguh: define them in ~/.screenrc |
| 08:52.35 | lwolf | bob2, yeah, but i need to do NTLM auth |
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| 08:52.58 | Tuttle | boguh: I use Zope that I compiled myself using pre-packaged python with it's own webserver. I recommend thi approach. |
| 08:53.41 | Trost | Hello! I would like to discuss howto install an additional kernel-image with apt-get and keep my old kernel! (One for musicproduction, one for ordinary use) |
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| 08:54.02 | lwolf | Trost, afaik, this is the default behavior |
| 08:54.25 | Tuttle | dimir: both servers already accept and display UTF-8. Sorry, I do not understand. :) |
| 08:55.00 | Trost | lwolf: And how do I do it without messing up my existing kernel? |
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| 08:56.00 | lwolf | Trost, 2 solution, you take another version of kernel, or you add a tag / revision (like 686, k7...music ;) i don't know much about this, you should read man page for make-kpkg |
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| 08:56.25 | dimir | Tuttle: you just install additional image, the old one will be kept until you remove it youself. |
| 08:56.44 | Tuttle | dimir: Thanks, my kernel is fine. :-) |
| 08:56.45 | dimir | oops |
| 08:56.47 | gumleef | Is there a local startup script like /etc/rc.local for debian? I've checked section 9.3 of the debian policy manual and am none the wiser. Am I really expected to write an init script for really simple stuff? |
| 08:56.50 | dimir | Trost that is |
| 08:56.52 | dimir | ;-) |
| 08:56.54 | liable | Trost: they will both be available from brub menu list |
| 08:57.08 | liable | hehe, grub |
| 08:57.20 | Trost | liable: I'm afraid that I use Lilo, how do I configure that? |
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| 08:58.03 | concept10 | Trost, are you using a sequencer? |
| 08:58.16 | dimir | Tuttle: so, basically, the samba server side does UTF-8 fine, as windose clients read the files, but from another Debian box does not create files on samba server correctly? |
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| 08:58.27 | liable | Trost: oh, add it manually to the list I think, dunno, dont use it. Some of the older hands here must be able to give a definative answer.. |
| 08:58.51 | Trost | concept10: No, just multitrack recording stuff, like Rosegarden and Ardour: or, more correctly: I will start to use them now. |
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| 08:58.59 | dimir | Trost: the apt will take care of it, don't matter if you have grub or lilo. |
| 08:59.08 | Tuttle | dimir: Exactly |
| 08:59.16 | dimir | Trost: while installing additional image, follow it's instructions, that's it. |
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| 08:59.28 | Trost | dimir: Is it so simple? I love debian! :) |
| 08:59.33 | Trost | Thanks folks! |
| 08:59.37 | jerome | good morning all |
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| 08:59.47 | concept10 | Trost, either one of those support VST plugins? |
| 08:59.48 | dimir | tros: yep, Debian keeps it simple, I love it too. ;-) |
| 08:59.55 | dimir | Morning, jerome |
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| 09:00.59 | litage | what does `>OK` do on the CLI? |
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| 09:01.37 | deadcat | litage: let us know |
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| 09:01.42 | jerome | I have an annoying bug on my laptop (thinkpad R40) that forbids me to use the suspend to ram function. When resuming, the kernel panic with a "atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program, like XFree86, might be trying access hardware directly." message filling the console forever. Any advice, link or so ? |
| 09:01.54 | dimir | Tuttle: hmmmm, I think you need to check the smbfs support for UTF or something. Can you read the special chars if you create it on one server and scp it to another? |
| 09:02.23 | deadcat | jerome: eeeeww. suspend is a tough one. |
| 09:02.38 | p4c | hi, what pkg to install so that i can lock/unlock certain workstation remotely from my pc? |
| 09:02.42 | liable | jerome: using the kernel one or suspend2? |
| 09:02.48 | deadcat | p4c: vlock |
| 09:03.04 | yarko | jerome: I'm just suspending to disk |
| 09:03.21 | yarko | jerome: that works fine with stock suspend or suspend 2 patch |
| 09:03.50 | deadcat | i dont know if i am using hibernate/suspend/sleep. all i know is i close the lid. my machine is off. open the lid. machine back on again (= |
| 09:03.56 | Tuttle | dimir: tested now, scp transfers it correctly. :( |
| 09:04.04 | Buz_ | hello, there's no official release of debian sarge for amd64, right? |
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| 09:04.33 | p4c | thanks deadcat! |
| 09:04.36 | deadcat | yarko: what do i do after i patch the suspend 2 patch? i want to do that on my x86 desktop |
| 09:04.47 | liable | jerome: try the hibernate package, you can load/unload shit before after suspending. |
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| 09:05.08 | jm_ | buzzrunner: #debian-amd64 |
| 09:05.12 | jm_ | Buz_ ^^^^^^ |
| 09:05.40 | dimir | Tuttle: meaning the problem is on the samba client side |
| 09:05.41 | dimir | Tuttle: check the smbfs stuff for utf-8 support or something. |
| 09:06.02 | Tuttle | dimir: okay, thank you |
| 09:06.24 | dimir | Tuttle: no problemo, hope you'll get your answer soon. ;-) |
| 09:07.17 | Tuttle | dimir: I think I'll rather fall back to NFS and leave Samba for Windows stations only. :) |
| 09:07.18 | Buz_ | jm_, thanks |
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| 09:08.00 | dimir | Tuttle: hehe, nice choice ;-) |
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| 09:10.37 | ma3x | can i make xbindkeys execute an icon? |
| 09:10.51 | ma3x | just like when i click it with the mouse |
| 09:11.26 | jm_ | ma3x: you can write xnee script and bind it to xbindkeys |
| 09:11.28 | liable | ma3x: an app, yes |
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| 09:11.59 | jm_ | but it would probably be easier to just start the application directly |
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| 09:12.06 | ma3x | liable, because when i bind to firefox, it executes firefox with another profile |
| 09:12.19 | coywolf | how to cp a file with ctime, mtime, atime and other meta info etc identical? |
| 09:12.20 | ma3x | and when i bind to kmail it executes kmail again with another profile |
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| 09:12.37 | liable | ma3x: oh, so no bookmarks etc? |
| 09:12.43 | ma3x | that's right liable |
| 09:13.05 | Phat32 | I just installed debian from the minimal cd and gdm tries to start then can't because my x server won't start |
| 09:13.13 | ma3x | i tried firefox %u but that didn't work too |
| 09:13.14 | Phat32 | can anyone help? |
| 09:13.20 | ma3x | but that's the icon's application |
| 09:13.31 | ma3x | i dunno what else to put in the xbindkeysrc file |
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| 09:13.37 | jm_ | Phat32: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 09:13.52 | liable | ma3x: hmm, I dont know actually. It works for me when I bind it to keys. (but I am the only user on this box) |
| 09:13.57 | bob2 | coywolf: -a perhaps |
| 09:14.00 | bob2 | coywolf: or use touch |
| 09:14.04 | liable | ma3x: what file? |
| 09:14.13 | liable | ma3x: put it in ~/ |
| 09:14.14 | coywolf | bob2, thanks |
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| 09:14.58 | ma3x | liable i want to bind kmail |
| 09:15.13 | ma3x | so when i put "kmail" it opens, and my account is gone |
| 09:15.16 | liable | ma3x: make a .xbindkeysrc in /home |
| 09:15.17 | ma3x | the profile is gone |
| 09:15.25 | ma3x | ok, let me try |
| 09:15.32 | ma3x | can i copy that one from /root ? |
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| 09:15.39 | Phat32 | jm_: It just brought me to some help menu |
| 09:15.42 | liable | ma3x: yeah, should work |
| 09:16.14 | liable | ma3x: then restart it of course. |
| 09:16.37 | coywolf | bob2, -p is enough for me :) |
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| 09:17.29 | Phat32 | what would be the command for installing xserver with apt |
| 09:17.47 | deadcat | Phat32: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 09:17.50 | bob2 | probably sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core |
| 09:18.26 | Phat32 | can't |
| 09:18.32 | Phat32 | missing dependencies |
| 09:18.50 | ma3x | liable : works, thanks a lot! |
| 09:18.55 | Knight_Lord | Phat32 sid? |
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| 09:19.02 | floppyears | hi |
| 09:19.08 | Phat32 | how do I find my sid? |
| 09:19.08 | liable | ma3x: sweet, np. |
| 09:19.13 | Knight_Lord | Phat32 you messing with xorg? |
| 09:19.30 | Phat32 | I just instaled debian from the minimal cd |
| 09:19.30 | Knight_Lord | Phat32 i mean are you running stable, testing or unstable? |
| 09:19.37 | floppyears | is there another repository that is as fast as or faster than deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 09:19.39 | Knight_Lord | Phat32 which distribution? |
| 09:19.48 | Phat32 | one sec |
| 09:19.57 | Knight_Lord | Phat32 did you added more sources to apt? |
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| 09:20.08 | liable | floppyears: there a mirror testing app, apt-spy??? |
| 09:20.15 | pedrolito59 | who knows hard-disk cloning tools ? |
| 09:20.20 | snail | floppyears: one local to you will be faster, where are you |
| 09:20.57 | liable | pedrolito59: for a ghost clone, partimage. |
| 09:21.53 | pedrolito59 | because i've a 3.0GB part with WinXP and I want to copy it to another hard disk of 4.0GB |
| 09:22.02 | Phat32 | debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:22.08 | floppyears | snail: corvallis, or |
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| 09:22.20 | liable | pedrolito59: well, use a windows app then. |
| 09:22.31 | pedrolito59 | windows app are not free |
| 09:22.40 | liable | pedrolito59: deal... |
| 09:22.46 | Phat32 | I haven't touched apt |
| 09:22.54 | pedrolito59 | I've tried g4u |
| 09:23.01 | pedrolito59 | but the part can't boot |
| 09:23.17 | jerome | deadcat, liable: I'm was talking about a stock ACPI suspend to ram, not to disk. It used to work with kernel <2.6.12, but udev needs 2.6.12 to work and now I have this problem. |
| 09:23.42 | jerome | actually, there is a post on lkml about synaptic touchpad not recognized on 2.6.13 |
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| 09:26.36 | snail | floppyears: check http://www.debian.org/mirror/list for a local mirror. there are dozens in the USA. |
| 09:26.40 | floppyears | is there any advantage of using http or ftp in the repositories |
| 09:26.41 | Phat32 | I just ran apt-get -f install |
| 09:26.47 | Phat32 | hopefully that will fix the problem |
| 09:26.53 | d0ug | for a on group to-do/what's happening list package (keep track of gigs and other events for a band), is webcalendar what i want? |
| 09:27.03 | floppyears | snail: I found one that is closest, but I'm now trying to decide whether I should use http or ftp |
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| 09:29.52 | snail | floppyears: there's no reason why you can't have one of each (unless you have a slow connection). if you are going to have one of each, it may be best to have one from each of two local mirrors |
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| 09:31.53 | floppyears | snail: why do some of the sources in sourcles.list have spaces |
| 09:32.47 | snail | floppyears: the format should be explained at the top of the file... |
| 09:33.24 | floppyears | snail: yes, it is. Sorry, I missed that :) |
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| 09:34.02 | liable | jerome: what the actuall problem? touchpad or suspend? and btw, if you are going to use the latest and greates non-debian kernels, well, expect shit not to be perfect... |
| 09:34.44 | pusling | any one knows the timetable of when ftpmaster will be back up ? |
| 09:34.57 | liable | pusling: fedex? |
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| 09:35.19 | pusling | then I will call them ;) |
| 09:35.28 | liable | pusling: heh. |
| 09:36.41 | smhar | I got a new 'used' mobile phone with bluetooth and got a small bluetooth usb adapter for my old pc.. never didthe blue thing before.. is it straight forward withdebian.. |
| 09:36.58 | M0ffe | Heh, it said "no sooner than monday", but that seems not to be entirely true ;) |
| 09:37.05 | smhar | I just want to copy my contact list to pc as a backup |
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| 09:38.04 | pusling | M0ffe: that is also what I have heard... but I think it is tuesday now ;) |
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| 09:38.57 | d3s | hi, I patched and compile the kernel for software-suspend2.. why I can't find the /proc/software_suspend2? |
| 09:39.02 | M0ffe | pusling: I also am pretty sure it is tuesday ;) |
| 09:39.29 | M0ffe | I meant "no *later* than monday" ;) |
| 09:40.16 | liable | M0ffe: um, didnt it say monday at the earliest? |
| 09:41.03 | tracysun | where can i download linux bsps for motolora |
| 09:41.05 | M0ffe | Oh, IIRC it said "saturday at the earliest, no later than monday"... |
| 09:41.30 | M0ffe | Well, I think it won't come up earlier by discussing what the original announcement said ;) |
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| 09:41.54 | DotHack | hia |
| 09:42.06 | DotHack | i have a problem with /dev/random |
| 09:42.18 | snail | d3s: have you booted the kernel? |
| 09:42.26 | DotHack | there's nothing generating entropy |
| 09:42.38 | DotHack | while the server is working a lot |
| 09:42.44 | snail | d3s: does software-suspend2 provide /proc/software_suspend2 or an updated /proc/software_suspend ? |
| 09:42.44 | tracysun | where can i download linux bsps for motolora |
| 09:43.07 | snail | d3s: do you have the right permissions? (are you looking for it as root?) |
| 09:43.09 | d3s | snail: yup |
| 09:43.29 | liable | d3s: also, have you set the suspend partition in grub? |
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| 09:43.33 | d3s | snail: i booted... |
| 09:43.34 | DotHack | does someone have this problem also? |
| 09:43.37 | streuner_ | tracysun: every tried google? |
| 09:43.53 | d3s | did resume2=swap:/dev/hda5 |
| 09:43.58 | d3s | did compile |
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| 09:44.00 | honschu | Is my monitor and gfx non-interlaced? (I bought a Act-Labs lightgun) |
| 09:44.06 | ixion | I've made changes to /etc/networking/interfaces - how to I apply them? |
| 09:44.11 | d3s | but can't find the /proc/software_suspend |
| 09:44.13 | d3s | but can't find the /proc/software_suspend2 |
| 09:44.17 | bob2 | DotHack: so generate some then |
| 09:44.23 | ircdevil | what is the name of the partitioning tool used during install? |
| 09:44.27 | ircdevil | cfdisk? |
| 09:44.28 | liable | honschu: wtf does that have to do with debian? |
| 09:44.29 | bob2 | DotHack: then you didn't compile it properly, or you didn't boot the one you compiled |
| 09:44.32 | bob2 | ircdevil: partman in sarge |
| 09:45.06 | ircdevil | bob2: ah cfdisk will do :o) |
| 09:45.13 | honschu | Where (logfile, configfiles, ...) is that non-interlaced configured? |
| 09:45.24 | honschu | liable: <- |
| 09:45.35 | DotHack | im using a stock debian kernel |
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| 09:46.32 | Draconicus | How many of you have seen the movie Hackers/ |
| 09:46.34 | Draconicus | ?* |
| 09:46.34 | DotHack | bob2: how? im generating lots of traffic and stuff it just doenst work!! |
| 09:46.38 | Draconicus | Lookie what I did: http://www.glitchworld.com/pics/hackers.png |
| 09:46.38 | liable | honschu: um, what exactly are you talking about? what are you trying to do? |
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| 09:46.47 | bob2 | DotHack: traffic is not entropy |
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| 09:46.52 | bob2 | DotHack: wiggle the mouse |
| 09:47.14 | honschu | liable: To get this "pointer" running, I need to set my monitor/gfx to the "non-interlaced" mode (whatever this is) |
| 09:47.39 | honschu | liable: I think "non-interlaced" is, that there are two pictures which are set together by the monitor. |
| 09:47.40 | liable | ixion: /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 09:47.53 | snail | d3s: sorry, I'm not a software-suspend2 expert, I'm just asking the obvious questions, sorry |
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| 09:47.55 | ircdevil | what is the partion type for regular winblows fat32 called in cfdisk - is it W95 FAT32 (LBA)? |
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| 09:48.23 | bob2 | ircdevil: doesn't matter |
| 09:48.26 | DotHack | bob2: hehe wiggle the mouse on a server |
| 09:49.04 | DotHack | bob2: so for /dev/random to work you MUST have keyboard of mouse activity? |
| 09:49.09 | ircdevil | bob2: erhm why? |
| 09:49.14 | liable | honschu: yeah, I think your right there, but have no idea whether you can actually set that or if its hardware or what.. |
| 09:49.34 | bob2 | DotHack: or disk i/o or ... |
| 09:49.43 | bob2 | ircdevil: nothing cares what the type is |
| 09:49.46 | bob2 | except mayb windows |
| 09:49.48 | honschu | liable: okay, I think I have to ask in a x.org channel. Do you know one? (#x.org ??) |
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| 09:50.00 | liable | honschu: sorry, no. |
| 09:50.07 | Garp | Hi. |
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| 09:50.26 | Euclid | hi |
| 09:50.26 | ircdevil | bob2: well, doesnt winblows care? |
| 09:50.27 | honschu | liable: A non-interlaced raster display draws every line of a picture, or frame, in sequence from top to bottom. |
| 09:50.28 | etele_ | hi all |
| 09:50.39 | etele_ | I have some touble with my printer shareing |
| 09:50.50 | Euclid | What is the correct way to download from the unstable repositories |
| 09:50.51 | bob2 | no idea |
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| 09:51.04 | Euclid | I just get 404 not found when I changed stable to unstable and apt-get update |
| 09:51.23 | liable | honschu: yeah, I have a vague idea of what it is, but thats about it. |
| 09:51.24 | ircdevil | !stable->unstable |
| 09:51.25 | DotHack | bob2: well its doing disk io and its not filling the entropy |
| 09:51.33 | bob2 | indeed |
| 09:51.35 | Garp | Question: Some critical security holes have been found in firefox and thunderbird, only fixed in 1.05 and above. My debian seems only to provide some 1.02, am I at risk? Thanks. |
| 09:51.35 | ixion | liable, that didnt work, ifup -av did though |
| 09:51.37 | ircdevil | !sarge->sid |
| 09:51.38 | SerajewelKS | Euclid, what is your deb line in apt.sources? |
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| 09:52.00 | Euclid | SerajewelKS: I'm sorry? |
| 09:52.22 | bob2 | Garp: debian backports fixes to the versions in stable |
| 09:52.23 | SerajewelKS | Euclid, you said you changed 'stable' to 'unstable' .. paste the line that you chaged that on |
| 09:52.24 | bob2 | generally |
| 09:52.27 | bob2 | go read the changelog |
| 09:52.27 | streuner_ | Garp: turn off your box and you have _NO_ risk |
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| 09:52.43 | youknow-who | Trouble with rootstrap: mknod: `/tmp/target/dev/ubd0': No such file or directory. Anyone? |
| 09:52.45 | Euclid | SerajewelKS: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable mai |
| 09:52.52 | Euclid | n |
| 09:53.07 | Garp | bob2: have the backports been made already ? |
| 09:53.25 | streuner_ | dpkg, backports |
| 09:53.25 | SerajewelKS | Euclid, mirrors.kernel.org might not mirror unstable |
| 09:53.25 | dpkg | well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 09:53.41 | SerajewelKS | Garp, everything from "stable" on up has firefox 1.0.4 |
| 09:53.46 | Euclid | so you think I would have to use the debian.org mirror? |
| 09:54.01 | streuner_ | Garp: so what distro are you running actually? |
| 09:54.02 | bob2 | Garp: read the changelog and see |
| 09:54.04 | SerajewelKS | Euclid, try: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 09:54.09 | bob2 | Euclid: now is a really terrible time to use sid |
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| 09:54.14 | streuner_ | dpkg, info mozilla-firefox |
| 09:54.15 | Garp | Thanks for the answers |
| 09:54.19 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 7440 kB, Installed size: 21012 kB |
| 09:54.23 | streuner_ | dpkg, info mozilla-firefox sarge |
| 09:54.27 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 8672 kB, Installed size: 24372 kB |
| 09:54.46 | SerajewelKS | !tell Euclid about break |
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| 09:55.18 | KerPlunk | !tell Euclid about enter |
| 09:56.03 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk, what was that for |
| 09:56.25 | streuner_ | apt, test |
| 09:56.25 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
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| 09:56.54 | Garp | streuner_: thunderbird seems still at 1.0.2... |
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| 09:57.17 | streuner_ | Garp: ok, use firecrap then |
| 09:57.21 | Garp | but thanks for the rest of the infos :) |
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| 09:57.35 | SerajewelKS | Garp, when you said 1.0.5 amd 1.0.2 you didn't specify whether you meant firefox or thunderbird |
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| 09:58.09 | ircdevil | bob2 ok - i get this now: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1, when trying to mount -t vfat ? |
| 09:58.20 | Garp | SerajewelKS: looks like they're both received fixes at 1.0.5 and above (firefox and thunderbird). |
| 09:58.26 | harleyg | hi |
| 09:58.28 | bob2 | ircdevil: you did mkfs it, right? |
| 09:58.34 | bob2 | cfdisk has nothing to do with putting filesystems on things |
| 09:58.36 | ircdevil | bob2 ups |
| 09:58.36 | SerajewelKS | ircdevil, did you mkfs.vfat /dev/sde1? |
| 09:59.26 | etele_ | I have some touble with my printer shareing |
| 09:59.31 | etele_ | can somebody help me? |
| 09:59.33 | DotHack | is it true that its the DAC960 modules that is not filling entropy? |
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| 10:00.00 | liable | etele_: how about telling us the actuall problem. |
| 10:00.17 | SerajewelKS | !can anyone help me |
| 10:00.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just go for it |
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| 10:00.31 | goliat | hello there |
| 10:01.02 | goliat | I just updated from kernel 2.2 to 2.4 using apt |
| 10:01.17 | goliat | but now i cant boot without inserting a boot disk |
| 10:01.26 | goliat | I guess i should fix something with lilo |
| 10:01.31 | goliat | how can i do that ? |
| 10:01.35 | streuner_ | goliat: fix your bootloader |
| 10:01.36 | liable | goliat: still running woody then? |
| 10:01.41 | d0ug | Could someone kindly rec a web-based calendar to-do multiuser style? so bandmates can log in and put up tasks and view everyone's additions? |
| 10:02.07 | liable | goliat: did you do what it told you and run 'lilo'? |
| 10:02.13 | goliat | i think so |
| 10:02.18 | Balduran | i want to install graphical support or something like that... do i need to download drivers from nvidia.com or like in ubuntu i need only nvidia-glx package? |
| 10:02.23 | goliat | what should i edit in lilo ? |
| 10:02.37 | bob2 | Balduran: those packages have nothing to do with "graphical support" |
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| 10:02.55 | Balduran | bob2 im german i dont know if "graphical support" is the right word |
| 10:02.59 | streuner_ | goliat: if it worked before, just run 'lilo -v' without errors |
| 10:03.20 | liable | goliat: I think, you just need to run /sbin/lilo. and check to make sure the new kernel is in the menu file. |
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| 10:04.19 | goliat | whats the path to the menue file |
| 10:04.35 | goliat | do u mean /etc/lilo.conf or its another file ? |
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| 10:04.41 | liable | goliat: is this a new install? |
| 10:04.46 | ixion | what default port does squid use?? |
| 10:04.54 | bob2 | 3128 |
| 10:04.57 | jm_ | ixion: read the FAQ |
| 10:05.04 | ixion | thanks bob2 |
| 10:05.16 | goliat | yep just installed debian from 1 cd with kernel 2.2 it was working fine for some deays |
| 10:05.22 | goliat | then i apted kernel 2.4 |
| 10:05.28 | goliat | and it didnt boot anymore |
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| 10:05.33 | goliat | i just ran lilo -v |
| 10:05.36 | liable | goliat: do yourself a favour, and re-install with sarge. |
| 10:05.41 | goliat | ill reboot now to check if it worked |
| 10:05.55 | goliat | where can i find sarge |
| 10:06.02 | liable | !d-i goliat |
| 10:06.03 | dpkg | goliat, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 10:06.18 | jerome | liable: actually the kernel panic happens when resuming and implies touchpad/keyboard. |
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| 10:06.51 | liable | jerome: did you look at the hibernate package? |
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| 10:07.17 | liable | jerome: maybe unloading it before suspend may help. |
| 10:07.23 | goliat | :) |
| 10:07.27 | goliat | thnx alot guys |
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| 10:08.47 | etele_ | hi |
| 10:08.58 | etele_ | nobody here who can help me? |
| 10:09.39 | streuner_ | etele_: my crystal-thingie is in low-stat |
| 10:09.57 | etele_ | streuner_: ? |
| 10:09.59 | streuner_ | !tell etele_ about ask |
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| 10:10.14 | jm_ | he has already asked, but it was really vague |
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| 10:10.30 | etele | re |
| 10:10.31 | streuner_ | <etele_> hi all |
| 10:10.31 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.51 | etele | I user HP LaserJet 1320 |
| 10:11.03 | etele | I istalled it in linux, it works perfectly |
| 10:11.13 | etele | I shareed it throug samba |
| 10:11.36 | etele | I installad the driver to windows and I mapped the printer |
| 10:11.59 | etele | but the windows says that Access denied the the perinter |
| 10:12.03 | PeterB | !hu |
| 10:12.03 | dpkg | somebody said hu was Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 10:12.20 | SerajewelKS | etele, probably because you haven't authenticated from windows |
| 10:12.35 | etele | but I can still print |
| 10:12.49 | etele | I authenticated myself |
| 10:12.57 | SerajewelKS | etele, then what's the problem |
| 10:12.59 | liable | etele: well, whats the problem then? |
| 10:13.20 | etele | the windows is life frozen when a I try to priont |
| 10:13.34 | SerajewelKS | etele, so you can't print |
| 10:13.46 | liable | etele: whats your native language? |
| 10:14.00 | etele | for example I can't print for Adobe Acrobat because its freeses |
| 10:14.22 | etele | fut from WOrd I can print but it takes time to show me the printing dialog |
| 10:14.30 | etele | hun |
| 10:14.33 | SerajewelKS | etele, so you can print, but you can't, but you're authenticated now, so you can, but you can't? |
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| 10:15.04 | liable | etele: if you want, there is a #debian-hu |
| 10:15.10 | etele | I can print for word, but it takes 1 min to select the printer and push the pint button |
| 10:15.27 | PeterB | etele: If you would like help in Hungarian, join #debian.hu |
| 10:15.38 | liable | oh .hu |
| 10:15.53 | PeterB | liable: See dpkg's factoid above |
| 10:16.04 | liable | PeterB: yeah, just seen it :) |
| 10:16.06 | etele | thay don't help me :'( |
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| 10:16.44 | liable | etele: ok, so it can print, but it takes a long time? have you looked in the samba logs? |
| 10:17.04 | etele | no |
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| 10:17.28 | etele | witch? |
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| 10:17.33 | etele | nmbd or smbd? |
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| 10:18.01 | liable | prolly the one for the machine sending. |
| 10:18.02 | SerajewelKS | etele, nmbd manages netbios names, smbd does the sharing |
| 10:18.08 | etele | thx |
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| 10:18.50 | jerome | hum, which memtext program would you recommend (I don't mind, even prefer launching it from the bootloader) |
| 10:18.53 | jerome | ? |
| 10:19.01 | jm_ | memtext? |
| 10:19.07 | jerome | meme |
| 10:19.10 | jerome | memtest |
| 10:19.12 | jerome | sorry |
| 10:19.16 | jm_ | apt-cache search memtest |
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| 10:19.32 | jm_ | I used memtest86+ successfuly |
| 10:19.42 | goliat | is the network install on debian.org a sarge? |
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| 10:19.53 | jerome | yeah, but there are many of them, which one would you recommend . I think I have memtest86+ on my desktop box. |
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| 10:20.14 | liable | goliat: if you got it from that address that dpkg gave you, yes. |
| 10:20.17 | jerome | I never found a RAM error with this utility :/ |
| 10:20.51 | liable | jerome: is this to do with your suspend? |
| 10:20.52 | etele | [2005/07/26 12:11:36, 0] param/loadparm.c:service_ok(2649) |
| 10:20.53 | etele | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.53 | etele | [2005/07/26 12:11:36, 0] param/loadparm.c:service_ok(2649) |
| 10:20.53 | etele | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:21.12 | liable | etele: dont do that. read the topic |
| 10:21.18 | etele | that was the last gew line |
| 10:21.27 | reddi | does anyone know here vdr? |
| 10:21.28 | etele | but I don't understand it |
| 10:22.00 | liable | etele: your not alone there :) |
| 10:22.10 | jm_ | maybe you should get 1320N printer instead then |
| 10:22.19 | etele | sorry |
| 10:22.28 | antgel | can anyone tell me what the following line in a configure script does: |
| 10:22.30 | liable | etele: looks like a printer config problem though. |
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| 10:22.30 | antgel | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.03 | ircdevil | strange - i formatted this hd on my debian box with mkfs.vfat - but pluggin the disk into winblows makes the winblows box freeze |
| 10:23.06 | jm_ | antgel: yes, many people can |
| 10:23.15 | antgel | jm_: will they? |
| 10:23.25 | etele | in samba? |
| 10:23.30 | etele | or in cups? |
| 10:23.47 | jerome | liable: yeah, apparently a bad RAM might cause problem at resuming :/ |
| 10:23.47 | simonrvn | ravenbird: test2 |
| 10:23.48 | ravenbird | simonrvn: I give up, what is it? |
| 10:23.52 | antgel | what does the following line in a configure script do: |
| 10:23.54 | jm_ | antgel: no idea, but you shouldn't ask yes/no questions |
| 10:24.02 | antgel | MOZ_ENABLE_COREXFONTS=${MOZ_ENABLE_COREXFONTS-} |
| 10:24.08 | antgel | jm_: happy now? |
| 10:24.22 | simonrvn | ravenbird: test2 |
| 10:24.22 | ravenbird | Yes I'm online |
| 10:24.23 | etele | I use KDE |
| 10:24.31 | SerajewelKS | i keep making a symlink /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyUSB0 but it keeps disappearing, usually after a dist-upgrade. what would be deleting this? |
| 10:24.35 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 10:24.41 | jerome | liable: actually I added rmmod psmouse atkbd before suspend, but the kernel still goes panic and reveal a "unable to handle NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000" |
| 10:24.44 | liable | etele: can you paste your samba.conf in a paster? |
| 10:25.03 | antgel | jm_: you forgot to have a go at reddi btw |
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| 10:25.28 | etele | in GUI Samba config there is aline path in the printer what does it mean? |
| 10:25.35 | liable | jerome: ok, use modprobe -r, btw. |
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| 10:25.37 | reddi | hm? |
| 10:25.43 | reddi | do u know vdr gg? |
| 10:26.27 | liable | jerome: um, this is in the hibernate conf files? |
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| 10:27.18 | liable | jerome: anyway, 2.6.13 isnt a stable kernel yet.. |
| 10:27.31 | pe | Someone using an ov511 webcam around here ? |
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| 10:28.43 | liable | !ask |
| 10:28.56 | liable | !hi |
| 10:29.05 | liable | hmmm |
| 10:29.10 | liable | @ask |
| 10:29.10 | ravenbird | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. It's a bit redundant and it makes some folks grumpy. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people ... |
| 10:29.22 | jm_ | antgel: missed it, had a phone call |
| 10:29.22 | jerome | liable: no, in the /etc/acpid/sleepbutton.sh (which you may not have) |
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| 10:29.23 | jerome | liable: well, I'm memtesting right now. Let's see what happens. |
| 10:29.23 | ixion | i've got squid setup, the box is directly connected to the internet - pages resolve quickly but then it takes a while before it starts transferring data - any ideas? |
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| 10:29.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
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| 10:29.25 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 10:29.26 | mops | what spawns getty processes on startup? |
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| 10:30.10 | SerajewelKS | !tell pe about anyone use |
| 10:30.17 | jerome | liable: I'm not using 2.6.13 but 2.6.12-3. |
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| 10:30.25 | jerome | the lastest stable 2.6.12 |
| 10:30.29 | liable | @kill debhelper |
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| 10:30.57 | liable | jerome: ok, dunno, sorry. |
| 10:31.09 | fatal__ | mops: init? check /etc/inittab .. |
| 10:31.36 | mops | fatal__: yes, thanks, I did already |
| 10:31.40 | mops | :) |
| 10:31.47 | jm_ | antgel: you can read about this in man bash, under Parameter Expansion |
| 10:32.20 | antgel | jm_: thanks, it's all happening in #bash |
| 10:32.32 | fatal__ | mops: pstree is always useful in situation like "who started this"... :) |
| 10:32.38 | dh | test |
| 10:33.01 | SerajewelKS | !test |
| 10:33.02 | dpkg | Sorry, serajewelks, I didn't get your test. |
| 10:33.13 | mops | fatal__:yes :) |
| 10:33.17 | Trewas | grrrr, I had installed xorg from ubuntu sometime earlier and it was working nicely with matrox g550 and dualhead, now I thought to go back to debian packages since xorg is in unstable... after hellish hassle I got them installed but dual-head does not work (image only to the first monitor) |
| 10:33.18 | mops | I forgot :( |
| 10:33.44 | Trewas | one could have thought that after packaging the damn thing for a couple of years it would at least work as fine as ubuntus version :| |
| 10:33.45 | Slippy | Maaaan...Janis Joplin rocks! |
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| 10:34.12 | liable | Slippy: have some more acid :) |
| 10:34.21 | etele | liable: are you here? |
| 10:34.27 | Slippy | liable: 10-4! I'm at it ;) |
| 10:34.43 | liable | etele: yes, please dont /msg me. |
| 10:34.46 | SerajewelKS | Trewas, a few problems there: 1) installing ubuntu packages on debian. 2) saying that xfree86 should work when x.org does. |
| 10:35.00 | etele | ok |
| 10:35.05 | etele | but how can |
| 10:35.18 | etele | how can I send you the smb.conf file? |
| 10:35.24 | SerajewelKS | s/when/because/ |
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| 10:36.23 | liable | etele: whats the printer line you are using for the win box? |
| 10:36.56 | liable | etele: I am not really very good with samba, so... |
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| 10:37.38 | etele | hmm |
| 10:37.38 | Trewas | SerajewelKS: the problem is not with ubuntu packages in debian, since I am now using xorg from debian unstable... of course I know that there are no guarantees that packages from unstable should work but it is weird that xorg 6.8.2 packages from ubuntu did not have the dual-head problem |
| 10:37.51 | etele | you mean printer queue? |
| 10:37.58 | liable | etele: I mean name. |
| 10:38.01 | etele | but I think I solved the problem |
| 10:38.09 | SerajewelKS | Trewas, why is that weird? |
| 10:38.15 | etele | HPLaser1320 |
| 10:38.27 | smhar | I got a new 'used' mobile phone with bluetooth and got a small bluetooth usb adapter for my old pc.. never didthe blue thing before.. is it straight forward withdebian.. |
| 10:38.35 | Lorvija | Anyone here know if there's a program with what I could use voice commands to make my server perform a preprogrammed task? |
| 10:38.51 | etele | a path was missing in the printersahre |
| 10:38.52 | liable | etele: well, thats wrong, according to your samba conf... |
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| 10:39.09 | gusar612 | Hi! Can anyone give me a tip on how to permenantly add routes in my routing table in debian? Thank you! |
| 10:39.25 | SerajewelKS | gusar612, init.d scripts |
| 10:39.28 | fatal__ | gusar612: add up/down rules in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:39.29 | liable | gusar612: man route. |
| 10:39.34 | gusar612 | fatal__: thx |
| 10:39.51 | ceee | how can I find out, if ldap binaries in sarge are build with tls/ssl ? Is it build with this? in woody there was no ssl in ldap |
| 10:40.07 | etele | moment please |
| 10:40.10 | stew | gusar612: the proper way in debian would be to add an "up" rule in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:40.18 | SerajewelKS | ceee, pretty sure sarge ldap has tls and ssl... man ldap |
| 10:40.21 | jm_ | ceee: check the dependencies |
| 10:40.27 | SerajewelKS | man ldap.conf* |
| 10:40.59 | ceee | thanks. |
| 10:41.27 | ceee | can you answer the same question with samba with ldap ? |
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| 10:42.16 | ryu_hado | salut tt le monde |
| 10:42.38 | ryu_hado | alors ca va |
| 10:43.35 | stew | !fr |
| 10:43.35 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 10:43.44 | liable | etele: if you put 127.0.0.1:631 in a browser, and go to the printer, check its name etc, and make sure all the stuff is the same for samba. |
| 10:44.22 | ryu_hado | ola you Discard me ... |
| 10:44.43 | liable | speak english then... |
| 10:45.05 | ryu_hado | ok |
| 10:46.08 | ryu_hado | i have to go |
| 10:46.13 | ryu_hado | i will return |
| 10:46.15 | ryu_hado | bye |
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| 10:47.58 | Blade | Yay 18 years old \,,/ |
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| 10:48.47 | darkness | Any reasons as i'm having problems connecting via ssh to my box and i've exhausted all possibilities with router to uninstall sshd and reinstall? |
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| 10:49.25 | jm_ | sshd has debugging mode, so does ssh |
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| 10:50.01 | darkness | jm_, any help. My error is connection refused to port 22. |
| 10:50.30 | jm_ | darkness: connection refused usually means nothing is listening on the port |
| 10:50.39 | jm_ | either that or your firewall is blocking it |
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| 10:51.15 | Trewas | it seems I was blaming debian xorg packages for nothing, the dual-head problem was solved by going back to earlier 2.6.12.1 kernel (I had upgraded to 2.6.13-rc3 at the same time as I changed from ubuntu's xorg to debian packages) |
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| 10:51.27 | darkness | I've spoken with netgear who's router i have and upgraded to the latest firmware. All the settings i've gone through with them and all seems fine on that score. |
| 10:51.29 | johaBBa | anyone know how to make a gdm session that will load X at a specified resolution and screen depth? |
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| 10:51.42 | Trewas | quite weird that kernel can break that kind feature |
| 10:52.08 | liable | johaBBa: less than max? |
| 10:52.10 | jm_ | so check if sshd is running and if it's listening on appropriate interface(s) |
| 10:52.20 | johaBBa | liable, yeah for games |
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| 10:52.42 | darkness | Do you have the cmd for it jm_? |
| 10:52.44 | liable | johaBBa: cant you do it in whatever desktop you use? |
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| 10:53.01 | johaBBa | liable, that's the whole point...i don't want to do it in my WM |
| 10:53.18 | floppyears | hi |
| 10:53.20 | liable | johaBBa: why? |
| 10:53.27 | floppyears | is wajig better than apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 10:53.30 | johaBBa | i want an gdm session that goes to 1024x768x16bit then runs my game |
| 10:53.33 | jm_ | darkness: man netstat |
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| 10:56.04 | liable | johaBBa: you've lost me, what exactly are you doing? running a game from gdm menu??? |
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| 10:56.16 | johaBBa | liable, yes |
| 10:56.25 | johaBBa | i have one already for ut2k4 |
| 10:56.46 | etele | liable: its not working :'( |
| 10:56.50 | johaBBa | it doesn't run any WM just ut2k4....mo' better performance |
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| 10:57.39 | jm_ | that's funny - someone bothering by running without wm and they're using a DM |
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| 10:58.58 | liable | johaBBa: well, if theres no wm, I dont know how to change from other than max res, as the server generally runs at max by default iirc. |
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| 10:59.18 | liable | etele: what did you do? |
| 10:59.21 | RabidDog | ahah re: topic that's why no updates for sid |
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| 10:59.36 | HypnoteK | Hello |
| 10:59.37 | etele | I added a path to the printer spool path |
| 10:59.46 | etele | but its the same |
| 11:00.06 | etele | Windows waits 30seconds befor opening the printer panel |
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| 11:00.15 | liable | RabidDog: wow, someone actually read the topic :) |
| 11:00.22 | etele | but I don't get any error messages form samba |
| 11:00.39 | RabidDog | liable, now the q is how long is the server gonna be pain to the devs before it's setup again :) |
| 11:00.49 | sghhg | hi |
| 11:01.02 | HypnoteK | I have error 111 n error 3 when i do startx in the shell can any one tell me waht to do ? |
| 11:01.13 | liable | RabidDog: how long is a piece of string :) |
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| 11:01.37 | RabidDog | liable, as long as your male anatomy :) |
| 11:01.55 | liable | hmm, ok. |
| 11:02.13 | RabidDog | I'd say other things but I might get a kick :) |
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| 11:02.39 | secher | exit |
| 11:02.40 | clayface | servus ALL |
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| 11:04.05 | liable | etele: dunno, maybe client side. if no samba logs. |
| 11:04.19 | etele | thx |
| 11:04.34 | etele | I reconfiguring my samba I found a new description |
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| 11:05.04 | darkskiez | how can I make tcpdump not dump ipx packets? |
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| 11:05.52 | jm_ | darkskiez: read about its filtering capabilities |
| 11:05.58 | liable | etele: in the problems I had with samba and printing, I didnt really get help from anyone (prolly cause of so many variables) but eventually worked it out.. keep trying :) |
| 11:06.13 | ma3x | hi, when i view text file and if the text is not readable, how can i find out what font i need to install? |
| 11:06.20 | RabidDog | liable, they are ussually pretty quick with these switches, are they haveing problems it's been a few days? do you know? |
| 11:06.28 | johaBBa | liable, hrm...i think i answered my own question :). i have an xsession file that runs xrandr -s 1 to change resolutions then runs my game script. |
| 11:06.37 | etele | thx for the help |
| 11:06.57 | darkskiez | jm_: gee I hadnt thought of that. |
| 11:07.01 | HypnoteK | how can i install KDE on debian plz |
| 11:07.04 | liable | RabidDog: the actuall server is moving locations, so who knows.. |
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| 11:07.17 | stew | darkskiez: man tcpdump, search for ipx |
| 11:07.23 | liable | johaBBa: cool. |
| 11:07.26 | darkskiez | stew: done that |
| 11:07.40 | stew | darkskiez: i must have misunderstood the question then |
| 11:07.57 | darkskiez | stew: on my man page ipx is only mentioned in passing |
| 11:07.57 | rajasun | RabidDog: http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200507260932 |
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| 11:08.01 | stew | darkskiez: what have you tried? |
| 11:08.04 | jm_ | stew: no, he wants you to give him exact command ... |
| 11:08.17 | liable | HypnoteK: um, apt-get install kde/kde-base/kde-core? |
| 11:08.29 | darkskiez | i dont care if you give me the exact command or a pointer, but i cant find it in the man page or the right thing on google |
| 11:08.38 | RabidDog | wtf 855resolution don't recognize my vid bios |
| 11:08.39 | HypnoteK | liable, are u asking me ? |
| 11:08.43 | tarzeau | what else are serial devices? if not /dev/ttySn ? |
| 11:08.46 | RabidDog | Chipset: Unknown (id=0x01e010de) |
| 11:08.46 | RabidDog | Unknow VBIOS structure |
| 11:08.47 | liable | HypnoteK: no |
| 11:08.51 | RabidDog | that is a load of crap |
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| 11:09.02 | HypnoteK | liable : E: couldnt find package |
| 11:09.05 | jm_ | man tcpdump clearly explains how to use its filtering capabilities and it even has examples |
| 11:09.08 | RabidDog | livecds have no problem identifying it |
| 11:09.13 | liable | HypnoteK: what package? |
| 11:09.28 | liable | HypnoteK: what command you give? |
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| 11:09.43 | HypnoteK | liable :apt-get install kde/kde-base/kde-core? |
| 11:09.53 | RabidDog | anyone know why 855resolution is not giving me the info I need? |
| 11:09.54 | HypnoteK | liable : without ? |
| 11:09.57 | ma3x | how do i know which font is using specific text file? |
| 11:09.57 | darkskiez | jm_: yes, but it doesnt work for ipx. |
| 11:10.01 | HypnoteK | liable : without "? " I meant |
| 11:10.11 | liable | HypnoteK: haha, sheesh, apt-get install kde |
| 11:10.33 | stew | darkskiez: what have you tried? |
| 11:10.47 | ma3x | liable: if you open txt file written in arabic language, and you don't have the font installed |
| 11:10.58 | liable | ma3x: ?? |
| 11:11.00 | yaboo | any docs on setting up apache2 the debian way |
| 11:11.02 | ma3x | how will you know that you have to install arabic font? |
| 11:11.04 | bartden | hi, i have a cisco switch, and i'm using an old p2 as router (witch is connected to my switch), does there excist something like an module i can plug in the ethernet port so that my switch can also send wireless data , sry for my bad english ?? |
| 11:11.04 | darkskiez | stew: tcpdump not ipx for a starter |
| 11:11.15 | ma3x | without knowing previously that the language written in the text file is arabic |
| 11:11.24 | netbrain | hm. im thinking of reinstalling debian to my box. but i have a lvm partition over a series of 3 or 4 disks. will i be able to get the lvm partition up again without loosing data? |
| 11:11.30 | liable | ma3x: fucked if I know, sorry. I am a fonts tard :) |
| 11:11.32 | stew | uhh |
| 11:11.46 | ma3x | in a few words, can you find out what font is using specific text file? |
| 11:11.54 | HypnoteK | liable : broken package |
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| 11:12.02 | stew | darkskiez: what version of debian? |
| 11:12.11 | liable | HypnoteK: apt-get -f install |
| 11:12.12 | stew | darkskiez: just wondering if your manpage could be that different than mine |
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| 11:12.39 | darkskiez | stew: its woody, i'm not in a postion to change that. |
| 11:12.43 | stew | darkskiez: you want to see ipx or not see ipx? |
| 11:12.48 | darkskiez | stew: not see ipx. |
| 11:12.59 | netbrain | hm. im thinking of reinstalling debian to my box. but i have a lvm partition over a series of 3 or 4 disks. will i be able to get the lvm partition up again without loosing data? |
| 11:13.21 | HypnoteK | liable : the same result |
| 11:13.23 | PeterB | !tell netbrain about repeat |
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| 11:13.38 | liable | HypnoteK: put in on a paster. |
| 11:14.01 | bomb | anyone know why i can't play an *.ogg file using the XMMS that came with sarge? |
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| 11:14.11 | bomb | i have all the vorbis libraries.... |
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| 11:14.33 | liable | bomb: from cd or? |
| 11:14.39 | bomb | no, on hard disk |
| 11:14.43 | bomb | noatun will play them |
| 11:14.48 | HypnoteK | liable :it's in another pc |
| 11:14.49 | liable | ok |
| 11:14.50 | bomb | but i don't care for noatun |
| 11:14.54 | stew | darkskiez: and your manpage says you can just do "not protocol"? doesn't seem right to me |
| 11:15.01 | HypnoteK | liable :in wich cd can i find kde packages ? |
| 11:15.11 | liable | HypnoteK: iso1 |
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| 11:15.14 | darkness | jm_, up till now ssh worked fine. Now i have messed with some settings. Wouldn't it make sence to make a fresh install of sshd? |
| 11:15.16 | darkskiez | stew: not ether proto ipx |
| 11:15.25 | HypnoteK | liable :thank u |
| 11:15.28 | jm_ | stew: not is generic, so it works just fine |
| 11:15.38 | darkskiez | sew: i've had limited success with just tcpdump ip, but that filters too much |
| 11:15.40 | jm_ | darkness: or fix the settings? |
| 11:15.47 | umbop | hey guys i'm trying to install tlswrap, but it says couldn't find your SSL library installation dir, i've installed openssl, but i'm unsure where my library installation directory is for ssl, other than /usr/lib which contains ssl libraries |
| 11:15.55 | umbop | i have tried that dir, but it still says the same thing |
| 11:16.18 | darkness | I'm not familiar enough with linux/ssh to do that jm_. |
| 11:16.21 | darkskiez | tcpdump not ether proto 0x8137 |
| 11:16.27 | stuarta | umbop: openssl-dev ??? |
| 11:16.28 | darkskiez | is not in the manual |
| 11:16.40 | stew | darkskiez: yeah you are right |
| 11:16.44 | umbop | didn't realise that existed stuarta |
| 11:16.50 | umbop | doesn't show up on a apt-cache search |
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| 11:16.56 | stew | darkskiez: i'm looking at the woody manual, its a lot workse |
| 11:16.58 | stew | worse* |
| 11:17.10 | jm_ | darkness: that's an important lesson - make backups before you modify things - right now it looks like reinstalling it is your best bet, just make sure you can access it if something goes wrong |
| 11:17.16 | darkskiez | its good to see things have improved |
| 11:17.23 | umbop | libssl-dev |
| 11:17.36 | darkskiez | but its a shame when people just assume you are being lazy or stupid, i personally dont think that was obvious or easy to find |
| 11:17.38 | umbop | is what i needed |
| 11:17.45 | stuarta | umbop: that's the one.... |
| 11:17.53 | darkness | jm_, will apt-get purge sshd. then apt-get sshd be what i need to do please? |
| 11:18.15 | jm_ | darkness: apt-get doesn't have purge command |
| 11:19.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | darkness: sudo apt-get --purge remove sshd && sudo apt-get install sshd |
| 11:19.19 | darkskiez | stew: thanks for your help :) |
| 11:19.35 | stew | darkskiez: it's easy to get cynical about people's ability to read a manpage in here, sorry |
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| 11:19.47 | gusar612 | I added the line "up route add default gw x.x.x.x" in /etc/network/interfaces. When i try to bring up eth0 i get the following output: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. Google doesnt feel like helping me in this... Any ideas? |
| 11:19.52 | darkskiez | stew: wasnt you i was pissed at, at least you had a look :) |
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| 11:20.11 | darkness | Tks Kamping. |
| 11:20.21 | darkness | Mmm can't find package sshd. |
| 11:20.24 | doub | gusar612: the best is to use "gateway x.x.x.x" rather |
| 11:20.24 | jm_ | gusar612: ehh? interfaces file has support to specify default gateway - man interfaces, read docs in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/* |
| 11:20.29 | darkness | Wonder if it's opensshd? |
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| 11:20.31 | jm_ | there are also examples there |
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| 11:20.42 | darkskiez | stew: ARGH: it still doesnt work :( hehehh |
| 11:20.44 | doub | gusar612: see man interfaces |
| 11:20.44 | jm_ | the package name is ssh |
| 11:20.52 | gusar612 | ok thank you doub and jm_ |
| 11:20.53 | streuner | dpkg, info ssh |
| 11:20.55 | stew | darkskiez: it might not be in the menual for a reason |
| 11:21.00 | dpkg | ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is extra. Version: 1:4.1p1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
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| 11:21.10 | stew | darkskiez: you might wanna backport the sarge / sid version |
| 11:21.14 | stew | darkskiez: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 11:21.41 | darkskiez | might just do that cheers |
| 11:22.01 | darkskiez | but i need this all the time and i cant do that on every server |
| 11:22.09 | darkskiez | I was hoping for a better solution :) |
| 11:22.14 | stew | gusar612: is the default gw you are trying to add part of the network for the ip address / netmask you are assigning? |
| 11:22.21 | leikh | i have debian woody and sendmail. recently my newsserver has started to receive lots of spam from a specific ip-address. i wish to block this ip-address at smtp level. what's the easiest way? |
| 11:22.38 | stew | darkskiez: you would only have to backport once, then dpkg -i on the other servers, or create a local repo |
| 11:23.11 | darkskiez | stew: our local repos is in its infancy, but we are working towards that |
| 11:23.21 | stew | leikh: depends on the MTA |
| 11:23.39 | leikh | stew: MTA is sendmail |
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| 11:24.31 | stew | leikh: ask in #sendmail ; any reason why not just block him at the transport layer? (i.e. iptables) |
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| 11:25.26 | liable | leikh: and dont forget to send an email to the admin of the isp :) |
| 11:25.41 | leikh | liable: ok :-) |
| 11:25.53 | ma3x | where should i place fonts, so that i can write with them in Kedit? |
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| 11:27.42 | ircdevil | anyone aware of a decent mailing list for latex support ? |
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| 11:29.35 | bob2 | (haha) |
| 11:29.47 | nvz | latex-lovers@lists.lebian.org 8P |
| 11:30.32 | cplx | !seen debian |
| 11:30.32 | dpkg | debian <debian@52.127.98-84.rev.gaoland.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 10d 15h 14m 19s ago, saying: 're'. |
| 11:32.23 | cplx | Any ideas as to freenodes most reliable irc server? |
| 11:32.40 | nvz | what? |
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| 11:32.50 | cplx | lawl.. vnm |
| 11:32.51 | cplx | nvm* |
| 11:32.55 | liable | is there a choice? |
| 11:33.01 | cplx | knew it would be a stupid answer.. |
| 11:33.07 | cplx | question* |
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| 11:33.35 | cplx | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
| 11:33.39 | liable | cplx: its ok, just fill the crack pipe again :) |
| 11:33.50 | cplx | could help with locality I guess :) |
| 11:37.02 | liable | !hi |
| 11:37.03 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 11:37.14 | Whisky_ | lol |
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| 11:37.50 | liable | Whisky_: back to ubuntu with you .. :) |
| 11:37.56 | Whisky_ | k :p |
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| 11:39.34 | Cope | what's the best way to find out what is in the debian 'core' - ie the base system, with nothing selected in tasksel? I'm away from my machines now, but a friend is installing debian, and saying the installer is installing g++ and bind, etc - not sure if they've made a mistake, or if this is in the base? |
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| 11:41.13 | Nemesis__ | anyone know if it's possible to use pppoa with a dsl modem connected via ethernet? (i know, it sound stupid) |
| 11:41.32 | streuner | nah, g++ isn't in base, not in d-i as well |
| 11:41.47 | jm_ | Cope: grep-available, dpkg-awk ... |
| 11:42.16 | cplx | !test |
| 11:42.17 | dpkg | Sorry, cplx, I didn't get your test. |
| 11:42.25 | cplx | !test |
| 11:42.37 | streuner | Cope: no bind as well... |
| 11:43.13 | Cope | jm_: I don't have access to a debian machine; just this windows laptop right now... and he is installing; was wondeirng if I could use packages.debian or something to see what is in the base |
| 11:43.35 | Cope | streuner: hmm |
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| 11:44.40 | unicstar | i want to install a linux distribution on my notebook, which one you recommend : |
| 11:45.00 | unicstar | redhat fedora, debian, freebsd, suse, ?? |
| 11:45.12 | jm_ | Cope: you can parse Packages.gz file |
| 11:45.19 | unicstar | my optios are ease of use, graphical support, good programming utils, existence of variety of applications in internet for it |
| 11:45.46 | unicstar | any suggestions ? |
| 11:45.47 | liable | unicstar: what do you think #debian will say? dont be silly. |
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| 11:46.05 | liable | unicstar: or dont troll. |
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| 11:46.18 | unicstar | ok |
| 11:46.28 | Gathond | apart from freeBSD having nothing to do with linux read some reviews and decide for yourself |
| 11:46.36 | streuner | unicstar: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 11:46.37 | liable | unicstar: ##linux |
| 11:46.51 | unicstar | so please tell me which is the last version of debian |
| 11:47.01 | bob2 | 3.1 |
| 11:47.04 | gusar612 | last? |
| 11:47.09 | gusar612 | there will be no more version? |
| 11:47.17 | unicstar | last till now |
| 11:47.20 | gusar612 | ohh |
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| 11:47.32 | FieldySnuts | hehe gusar612 was scared |
| 11:47.36 | vchrizz | hi |
| 11:47.38 | gusar612 | yes =) |
| 11:47.47 | streuner | unicstar: if you start with debian just use sarge/stable or etch/testing |
| 11:48.01 | FieldySnuts | your best bet is to try debian and also try freebsd. |
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| 11:48.13 | unicstar | where can I download debian ? |
| 11:48.19 | streuner | unicstar: for desktop systems testing or stable, for servers stable/sarge |
| 11:48.21 | vchrizz | who do i have to talk to, to delete or modify my mail address which appear on lists.debian.org ? |
| 11:48.21 | Gathond | debian.org |
| 11:48.30 | streuner | dpkg, d-i unicstar |
| 11:48.31 | dpkg | unicstar, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:48.48 | ircdevil | heh |
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| 11:48.56 | ircdevil | dpkg stat |
| 11:48.56 | dpkg | OS: $os |
| 11:49.02 | streuner | vchrizz: just unsubscribe and back in |
| 11:49.09 | unicstar | thanks |
| 11:49.19 | ircdevil | there should be a top100 of factoid use |
| 11:49.31 | vchrizz | streuner: well, i dont want to unsubscribe, i just dont want my address to be shown in public on http |
| 11:49.37 | liable | streuner: wtf was that about in #ubuntu? |
| 11:49.51 | streuner | liable: heh? :-) |
| 11:50.07 | streuner | liable: iam banned there... |
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| 11:50.24 | vchrizz | streuner: i would appreciate it, if the mail address just would be shown as name{at}domain{dot}tld |
| 11:50.24 | liable | streuner: apparently not, I seen ya :) |
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| 11:50.31 | streuner | haha |
| 11:50.41 | FieldySnuts | so he expects the entire mailing list to be changed.. righto. |
| 11:50.45 | streuner | liable: what's the IP? |
| 11:50.54 | liable | streuner: ?? |
| 11:51.18 | liable | streuner: 54A5F131.dip.t-dialin.net |
| 11:51.20 | vchrizz | FieldySnuts: you talking about me? :) |
| 11:51.31 | liable | +p |
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| 11:52.57 | vchrizz | im interested in general, why mail addresses arent rewritten in another format on the website, so any webcrawler wouldnt have valid mail addresses... |
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| 11:53.30 | liable | streuner: gah, nm, my top window is usually ubuntu, was on #debian-boot :P |
| 11:53.45 | FieldySnuts | because whatever software is managing the list and making those html pages doesn't have the capability to do so. if they owner of th elist isn't doing that, i wouldn't expect them to change anytime soon, you're not going to get them to edit just yours |
| 11:53.58 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: insult fhffhqvb |
| 11:53.59 | dpkg | fhffhqvb is nothing but a weasel-smelling bucket of rump-fed fat-woman's stomach-bile |
| 11:54.03 | fhffhqvb | FieldySnuts: wench |
| 11:54.07 | FieldySnuts | fuck you |
| 11:54.19 | fhffhqvb | cow |
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| 11:54.27 | FieldySnuts | that was really lame, i just play around and you come out with that shit |
| 11:54.28 | FieldySnuts | ignored |
| 11:54.35 | jim | for one, the crawlers are hip to that in general :) unless you do the yahoo thing of rewriting emails as "someone@..." instead of "someone@si.te" |
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| 11:55.13 | vchrizz | http://google.com/search?q="vchrizz@onetrix.net" my address is just shown in "public" on lists.debian.org |
| 11:55.18 | Phated | Woo, you can smell the hostility in the air. |
| 11:55.26 | liable | streuner: sorry :) |
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| 11:55.27 | FieldySnuts | vchrizz: you aren't listening to what i have said, so i'll stop saying those things. |
| 11:55.37 | vchrizz | and im wondering why i get 1-2 spam mails a week from america (im from austria) |
| 11:55.41 | HypnoteK | I couldnt download exim |
| 11:55.42 | FieldySnuts | Phated: asshole called me a wench and a cow... |
| 11:55.51 | streuner | liable: np |
| 11:55.54 | Phated | FieldySnuts: I can read, you know. :P |
| 11:55.56 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
| 11:56.01 | fhffhqvb | Phated: FieldySnuts needs to go to rehab for the meth problem |
| 11:56.11 | Shadur | Okay, either I've gone completely insane or openssl cert generation changed drastically in sarge over the past two months, because now I can't even remember how to generate a cert and key for apache2 to run SSL. |
| 11:56.34 | Phated | fhffhqvb: Sure, that's what they all say. |
| 11:56.39 | vchrizz | FieldySnuts: cause i dont know what you are saying to me, please write my nick in front ;) |
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| 11:56.54 | HypnoteK | re |
| 11:57.15 | HypnoteK | I couldnt download exim |
| 11:57.17 | rastaval | !seen |stefan| |
| 11:57.18 | dpkg | |stefan| <~stefan@tsukasa.networksolutions.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 63d 18h 10m 16s ago, saying: 'csy font problems i see =)'. |
| 11:57.31 | csy | highlight |
| 11:57.33 | jim | Phated: wow, they all say that about rehab and meth?! |
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| 11:58.24 | Phated | jim: I'm sure they do. |
| 11:58.32 | liable | FieldySnuts: um, didnt you start it? |
| 11:58.36 | krokas | How can i check the version of libfontconfig.so install on my system? |
| 11:58.37 | krokas | hi |
| 11:58.40 | fhffhqvb | liable: uh huh. |
| 11:58.55 | FieldySnuts | liable: in a joking way. he typed stuff out directly |
| 11:58.57 | krokas | How can i check the version of libfontconfig.so installed on my system? |
| 11:59.01 | FieldySnuts | oh well doesn't matter anymore |
| 11:59.13 | fhffhqvb | oh yeah... the comic the insult dog excuse. |
| 11:59.16 | streuner | krokas: dpkg -l package |
| 11:59.26 | krokas | thank you streuner |
| 11:59.30 | jim | krokas: you can look at the lib files, you can look at the package database |
| 12:00.21 | vchrizz | jim: well, so why dont use this rewriting on lists? all people who subscribed are getting the mails too, so why show the full valid mail address on the webpage? |
| 12:00.25 | krokas | thanks |
| 12:00.38 | umbop | hmm is there a way to see the versions via apt-cache search ? |
| 12:00.47 | jim | vchrizz: I don't know myself |
| 12:00.55 | vchrizz | umbop: apt-get show pkgname |
| 12:00.57 | Phated | umbop: use apt-cache show |
| 12:00.57 | stew | vchrizz: so that people can email you |
| 12:00.58 | jim | err, |
| 12:01.02 | jim | vchrizz: I don't know, myself |
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| 12:01.12 | streuner | umbop: that would give you the version which is avaiable via your sources.list... |
| 12:01.21 | FieldySnuts | it's the nature of mailing lists, if you don't like how it's run, unsubscribe |
| 12:01.42 | streuner | umbop: NOT the installed package on your system, but its apt-cache show package |
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| 12:02.02 | vchrizz | stew: they can do that too by mailing to the list and telling to whom the msg is "assigned" to (i would say) and if the person answers, the mail address is then known... |
| 12:02.20 | jim | the spam problem is very real tho... it should be addressed |
| 12:02.21 | stew | vchrizz: but that is a lot of extra hassle for no benefit |
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| 12:02.31 | umbop | cool, and if i testing and stable links in sources.list and i update, will it show the latest version? |
| 12:02.33 | FieldySnuts | if it hasn't by now, it won't be, somebody doesn't care |
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| 12:02.52 | umbop | i.e. testing could have a more uptodate version to stable, so does it cache both, or just th eone? |
| 12:03.12 | vchrizz | stew: well, sure, i agree, but what is more hassle? one or two mails extra or getting spam forever? |
| 12:03.18 | jim | umbop: be advised that testing and stable are becoming less and less compatible at every mirror pulse |
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| 12:03.26 | astronut | <maher> Dinuir: google: installing debian on raid |
| 12:03.40 | umbop | ok |
| 12:03.43 | ma3x | i want to bind action to one key |
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| 12:03.51 | ma3x | and i want the action to be volume up/down |
| 12:03.57 | ma3x | but i don't know what should i bind |
| 12:04.01 | umbop | stable = sarge now i take it? |
| 12:04.02 | ma3x | i mean what's the action volume up called? |
| 12:04.04 | stew | vchrizz: uhhh, i guess getting spam forever is more hassle, but i don't see how you are going to do anything about that |
| 12:04.13 | toresbe | A 0xFFFFFF00 netmask is a /24, right? |
| 12:04.20 | jim | umbop: yes, correct... and etch is currently testing |
| 12:04.22 | FieldySnuts | looks like it |
| 12:04.28 | Phated | Gross, but prolly. |
| 12:04.30 | stew | toresbe: yes |
| 12:04.31 | umbop | ahh, :) |
| 12:04.39 | jim | toresbe: yes, you count the 1-bits |
| 12:04.54 | fhffhqvb | nvz |
| 12:04.56 | toresbe | ok, thanks |
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| 12:05.13 | ma3x | what is the action of main volume called? |
| 12:05.17 | ma3x | how can i do that in console? |
| 12:05.18 | jim | stew: there should be scalable ways of defeating spam... |
| 12:05.23 | FieldySnuts | its' called "reach over and turn the volume up" |
| 12:05.26 | vchrizz | stew: i dont know either, thats why im asking here ;) i just want to contribute some ideas or changes which maybe could be good |
| 12:06.04 | ma3x | nobody any idea? |
| 12:06.13 | jim | ma3x: some times, you would have to create the action, then bind it in such a way it's bindable to a keystroke |
| 12:06.29 | liable | ma3x: I think thats a bios thing. |
| 12:06.31 | jim | (in general that is) |
| 12:06.49 | liable | ma3x: for my box anyway (laptop) |
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| 12:07.30 | ma3x | what's a bios thing, the volume up/down key action? |
| 12:07.36 | ma3x | you gotta be kiddingme :) |
| 12:07.47 | liable | no |
| 12:08.29 | liable | speaker volume for my thinkpad, isnt controlled at all ny the os. |
| 12:08.34 | ma3x | is there a popular, very good identd ? |
| 12:08.35 | stew | ma3x: if you use alsa, you can adjust volume from the console with amixer, if oss you can use aumix |
| 12:08.44 | greycat | ma3x: define "very good". |
| 12:08.54 | vchrizz | well, i would like to hear comments from the mailing lists maintainers why dont hide the mail addresses on the website or a least hide the part after he 'at' (domain.tld) |
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| 12:09.05 | greycat | "Gives an answer so EFnet will shut the fuck up" --> "nullidentd" |
| 12:09.35 | xoz | what's the way to create a dummy package to fool dpkg? |
| 12:09.36 | ma3x | greycat: small, secure |
| 12:09.41 | asg | xoz: equivs |
| 12:09.49 | xoz | asg: yep. thanks |
| 12:09.49 | greycat | small, secure --> nullidentd |
| 12:09.49 | stew | vchrizz: you realize that the mailing lists are archived by many other people other than debian as well, right? and that anyone can subscribe and therefore get all the addresses that way |
| 12:09.51 | bob2 | vchrizz: it's stupid |
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| 12:10.01 | bob2 | vchrizz: anyone can subscribe to the list and just suck email addresses out |
| 12:10.07 | Dragon-Eater | Listening to: Within Temptation - Mother Earth - Time: 2:59/4:02 - 192kbps |
| 12:10.07 | greycat | "Actually looks up the user who opened the port by doing all that stupid-fucking kernel crap" --> "NOT nullidentd" |
| 12:10.10 | Dragon-Eater | Anyone want this song? |
| 12:10.17 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: wrong channel. |
| 12:10.18 | FieldySnuts | stew / bob2 : we've tried telling him these things over the past half hour, he either cannot or will not comprehend |
| 12:10.23 | FieldySnuts | already ignored him |
| 12:10.27 | bob2 | vchrizz: also, give me an algorithm that gets rid of email addresses but leaves arch archive names alone |
| 12:10.38 | stew | vchrizz: and you aren't going to come up with a way to write the email address on a website in such a way that a human can understand but a webcrawler cannot |
| 12:10.39 | bob2 | vchrizz: hint: you can't, arch archiev names are valid email addresses |
| 12:11.07 | simonrvn | text->png |
| 12:11.07 | vchrizz | bob2: ya, but suck the addresses by mailing to people is not that easy as suck them from a webpage recursively i think? (or am i missing a part?) |
| 12:11.15 | vchrizz | simonrvn: good idea |
| 12:11.20 | bob2 | vchrizz: yes, it is |
| 12:11.25 | simonrvn | not really, bandwidth intensive |
| 12:11.40 | bob2 | vchrizz: also, how do you plan to stop other people publically archiving the list? |
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| 12:11.46 | simonrvn | even max compression, it would add up |
| 12:12.01 | ma3x | greycat : any preference for the identd? |
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| 12:12.20 | vchrizz | bob2: if the picture isnt large in size... you could compress the pic so its smaller that the text part... |
| 12:12.28 | xoz | now gaim in sid is working for me. it's just a matter of creating a dummy package for libaspellc2 |
| 12:12.39 | greycat | ma3x: /whois me. |
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| 12:12.46 | cbr | xoz: how? |
| 12:12.56 | vchrizz | bob2: i wouldnt stop peolple and thats not what i want |
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| 12:13.22 | vchrizz | my want is just to make life harder for people who suck mail addresses |
| 12:13.34 | asg | vchrizz: then use dummy addresses when posting to mailing lists |
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| 12:13.40 | ma3x | madafukin sticky alt |
| 12:13.57 | bob2 | vchrizz: then think of a useful way, all your suggestions are shit |
| 12:14.00 | greycat | ma3x: /whois me. |
| 12:14.16 | liable | ma3x: stop drooling into the keyboard whilst watching pr0n :) |
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| 12:14.22 | greycat | ident stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/local/sbin/nullidentd nullidentd rfc1413 |
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| 12:14.44 | cbr | xoz: how did you do a dummy package for libaspell? |
| 12:14.46 | greycat | (and no, that's not from a Debian box, hence the /usr/local/sbin) |
| 12:14.54 | simonrvn | ooh kinky /whois sex |
| 12:15.00 | vchrizz | bob2: hum, will do, but you dont have to use such words, i dont use them too!? im talking objective about that topic |
| 12:15.00 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 12:15.06 | xoz | cbr: edit /var/lib/dpkg/status ... create a *dummy* package for libaspell15c2 ... just make its version higher than the one in the Depends field of gaim. check gaim info in the status file. |
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| 12:15.21 | bob2 | vchrizz: indeed, but people have pointed out why your suggestion is silly already |
| 12:15.53 | xoz | cbr: you have to fool dpkg into thinking that the status of libaspell15c2 is installed and has a higher version. |
| 12:15.55 | ma3x | liable i'm not watchin pr0n! :) |
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| 12:16.20 | vchrizz | bob2: ok, understood already, ill think of some other ideas with friends and write them down... if i got enough ideas ill come back to that topic.. |
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| 12:16.31 | xoz | pr0n is all in the mind. one can always disrobe anyone in his mind :) |
| 12:16.35 | vchrizz | thanks btw for your answers, cya later :) |
| 12:16.39 | cbr | xoz: oh.. i'm too lazy to do that, i'll just wait until they've fixed it :p |
| 12:16.41 | cadu | xoz: ahahahahaha |
| 12:16.44 | bob2 | vchrizz: bearn in mind, lots of people have thought lots about this |
| 12:16.49 | bob2 | and not come up with a solution |
| 12:16.58 | ma3x | xoz: stop with your theories |
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| 12:17.15 | ma3x | greycat : got it, just didn't understand what did you mean with whois me? |
| 12:17.19 | xoz | cbr: you can configure it in less than a minute. |
| 12:17.22 | ma3x | rfc1413 ? |
| 12:17.27 | vchrizz | bob2: i know its a difficult topic, and im sure im not the first one who thinks about it :) |
| 12:17.32 | stew | ma3x: google it |
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| 12:17.48 | vchrizz | ma3x: rfc-editor.org afair |
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| 12:17.56 | ma3x | okay got it |
| 12:18.09 | asg | ma3x: also, /msg dpkg rfc1413 |
| 12:18.11 | ma3x | but did he set that now, or had it before? |
| 12:18.16 | xoz | cbr: the stupid thing is that aspell is just a spelling checker and should not be a big deal for gaim. |
| 12:18.45 | xoz | what's the role of spelling checker in gaim? stupid lib. |
| 12:18.52 | vchrizz | ok, my questions are answered... thanks though... bye :) |
| 12:18.54 | ma3x | is it just coincidence ? |
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| 12:19.03 | Phated | xoz: Prevention of IM-language. |
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| 12:19.18 | pose1don | What is the file i have to edit to make things start on boot up? |
| 12:19.24 | greycat | pose1don: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 12:19.50 | ma3x | gotta try the sticky key again |
| 12:19.50 | pose1don | thanks |
| 12:19.53 | xoz | yep. to prevent using ur, any1, ... and pr0n. |
| 12:19.57 | Phated | Yeh. |
| 12:20.08 | stew | !aolify Phated |
| 12:20.15 | liable | wish freenode had aspell... |
| 12:20.28 | greycat | "pr0n" is barely even a misspelling any more. It's become a separate word unto itself. |
| 12:20.58 | greycat | you mean besides bob2 and caphuso? :) |
| 12:21.02 | Phated | Heh. |
| 12:21.05 | asg | xoz: it's called greycat |
| 12:21.05 | pose1don | that doesn't tell me.. |
| 12:21.15 | pose1don | i just want to add a command to the file so its started on boot |
| 12:21.26 | stew | pose1don: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 12:21.45 | pose1don | thanks |
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| 12:23.20 | migma | pose1don: man update-rc.d would also do |
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| 12:23.37 | pose1don | not what i was looking for. |
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| 12:23.55 | pose1don | I have setup an irc server ages ago on this box and its called from a file at startup.. i need to add a bit to the call.. |
| 12:24.01 | pose1don | but cant remember the filenmae |
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| 12:24.26 | bzk | i run etch, subversion is version 1.1.4, b |
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| 12:24.50 | bzk | and i require 1.2. where can i read about installing a newer version of a package? |
| 12:24.55 | xenox | hi |
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| 12:25.52 | dny | hi! gibt es sinnvolle alternativen zum gcc? |
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| 12:26.05 | liable | !de |
| 12:26.06 | drac | !de |
| 12:26.06 | dpkg | de is, like, deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 12:26.11 | xenox | im search auto generating index.html file , sub-directory full file list, and copy web server.. PAcket x11 kde or gnome ???? |
| 12:26.14 | dny | sorry |
| 12:26.20 | greycat | and no, gcc does NOT use the alternatives system. Assuming that's what you just said. |
| 12:26.26 | dny | are there any alternatives to gcc? |
| 12:26.28 | netbrain | hm. im thinking of reinstalling debian to my box. but i have a lvm partition over a series of 3 or 4 disks. will i be able to get the lvm partition up again without loosing data? |
| 12:26.36 | greycat | cc does, but /usr/bin/gcc is just a symlink you would have to change by hand. |
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| 12:27.00 | bob2 | (README.Debian explains why) |
| 12:27.00 | dny | are there other perhaps more specialised compilers for specific architectures? |
| 12:27.00 | drac | greycat: doesn't that get overwritten after every gcc update? |
| 12:27.15 | greycat | dunno. I've never messed with it. |
| 12:27.15 | bob2 | dny: no useful free ones |
| 12:27.17 | liable | greycat: hmm, I was told thats a no no. |
| 12:27.28 | dny | bob2: but useful commercials? |
| 12:27.44 | izn0g | well, tiny c compiler is an alternative for x86 boxes |
| 12:27.51 | mohohaha | . |
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| 12:28.18 | izn0g | i'm not sure it would compile the kernel, though |
| 12:28.18 | bob2 | dny: depends what you're doing |
| 12:28.27 | bob2 | intel's one can be a fair bit faster for some things |
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| 12:28.56 | bob2 | as izn0g says, tho, it can't compile a kernel etc |
| 12:29.00 | dny | bob2: well im just wondering if there are compilers that outperform gcc on specific platforms |
| 12:29.15 | bob2 | dny: yes, intel's one on intel/mad64, ibm's one on ppc |
| 12:29.19 | bob2 | for some things |
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| 12:29.32 | dny | bob2: nothing for amd? |
| 12:29.42 | ma3x | does nullidentd have anything to do with /etc/identd.conf? |
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| 12:30.18 | bob2 | dny: "mad64" = "amd64" |
| 12:30.25 | jim | dny: when you say "gcc", you need to realize that different builds of gcc can be WILDLY different... for example you can author your own machine description and build a gcc that uses it and it would (probably) be -totally- different from any other build of gcc |
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| 12:30.41 | izn0g | ma3x: you could try a strace, or strings on the binary |
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| 12:31.11 | dny | jim: yeah i know that issue, but i am just wondering if there are compiler that outperform a perfect configured gcc |
| 12:31.15 | izn0g | ma3x: but the sources are available, hopefully |
| 12:32.03 | jim | dny: fsdo "perfect" you mean? :) probably :) but we'll never know for the ultimate def of "perfect" |
| 12:32.23 | ma3x | hey greycat are you there? |
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| 12:32.38 | dny | jim: probably i do not know enought about gcc |
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| 12:32.58 | bob2 | gcc hacking is possibly the lettest hacking around |
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| 12:33.12 | jm__ | hi. is there a program to set the root window's background with an image .PNG? |
| 12:33.18 | jim | well, I'm just saying that "perfect" is a term that may not apply to computers even |
| 12:33.19 | FieldySnuts | man import |
| 12:33.27 | rw` | I know there is a package called "deborphan" that finds orphaned libraries, but I would like to remove a package all it's *only* dependencies, any idea? |
| 12:33.32 | FieldySnuts | you'll need to have imagemagick installed. i'm sure there are other ways |
| 12:33.45 | jm__ | FieldySnuts thx |
| 12:33.50 | jim | xloadimage too |
| 12:34.09 | SilverspurG | morning |
| 12:34.11 | drac | jm__: Esetroot (that's in eterm package), fbsetbg (in fluxbox package), bsetbg (afaik in blackbox package) .. ;P |
| 12:34.11 | jm_ | no, import takes a screenshot, display shows it |
| 12:34.18 | greycat | !qiv |
| 12:34.18 | dpkg | hmm... qiv is a decent replacement for xv if you want to set your root window from a non-ancient image format |
| 12:34.22 | FieldySnuts | o you're right |
| 12:34.26 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 12:34.28 | SilverspurG | they say it's going to be over 100 F here today |
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| 12:34.56 | jm__ | well, thank you all. :) |
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| 12:36.38 | liable | whats verlassend mean? |
| 12:36.47 | jm_ | leaving |
| 12:36.55 | liable | ah |
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| 12:38.16 | zaikxtox | hello. |
| 12:38.28 | zaikxtox | what can i use to record a stream from a webcam in avi format? |
| 12:38.57 | dimir | ffmpeg? |
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| 12:39.03 | ctd | zaikxtox: try streamer. |
| 12:39.14 | ctd | zaikxtox: iirc, it's in one of the xawtv packages |
| 12:39.15 | dimir | well, googling would help for sure :-P |
| 12:39.26 | zaikxtox | ok. i will try, because xawtv was unhelpful |
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| 12:41.14 | FromTO | I have a usb mouse andd sometimes when I plug my mp3 player the mouse no longer works. I am running kernel 2.8.8 and gnome 2.10 any ideas |
| 12:41.35 | drac | FromTO: There is no 2.8.8 Kernel. |
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| 12:41.45 | mohohaha | liar? |
| 12:41.47 | cadu | FromTO: issue -> uname -a |
| 12:41.56 | FromTO | drac: sorry 2.8.6-1 |
| 12:41.57 | cadu | he meant 2.6.8 |
| 12:42.04 | mohohaha | what tool for CBQ and PRIQ on debian |
| 12:42.16 | FromTO | cadu is right too early in toronto |
| 12:42.21 | stew | mohohaha: ip from the iproute package |
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| 12:42.33 | mohohaha | ip? |
| 12:42.38 | stew | yes |
| 12:43.11 | drac | FromTO: Using /dev/input/mice ? |
| 12:43.35 | dimir | zaikxtox: maybe transcode will be of a help, if you don't mind command-line. ;-) |
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| 12:44.25 | FromTO | drac: yes |
| 12:44.54 | drac | FromTO: Ok, possible errors from time that happens should show up in "dmesg" |
| 12:45.15 | liable | see ya's tommorow :) g'nite. |
| 12:45.19 | stew | mohohaha: i lied, you want tc from the iproute package |
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| 12:46.13 | Madkiss | oops |
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| 12:47.21 | FromTO | drac: I am trying something, need to reboot will get back to you |
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| 12:49.30 | nono31 | What is the easier/best way to access my company vpn in linux? (I read that needs to patch and recompile kernel, which should not be a problem) |
| 12:49.58 | ctd | depends on what protocol the vpn is. |
| 12:49.59 | stew | nono31: it depends heavily on what software the vpn is comprised of |
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| 12:52.41 | Cancel\w | hi, people. I've recently installed debian sarge and got the same problem as a few monts ago - truetype fonts looks very bad in gtk applications |
| 12:53.38 | Cancel\w | how it could be solved? I've installed xfs-xtt, xfree86 |
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| 12:56.05 | makki_mmx | Cancel\w: 're you using gnome ? |
| 12:56.28 | dimir | Cancel\w: yes, seems so, and he shouldn't. :-) |
| 12:56.38 | Cancel\w | yep, but I've checked this on native X - without any managers with the same effect |
| 12:58.07 | Cancel\w | I was solving this problem few month ago, but I don't remember how |
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| 12:58.40 | Cancel\w | ops, its time to go home |
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| 12:58.47 | Cancel\w | bye |
| 12:58.55 | dimir | :-P |
| 12:58.55 | dimir | bye! |
| 12:59.01 | nono31 | stew: I would use vpn to access company cvs server. what do you recommend? |
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| 12:59.31 | Arafangion | nono31: Well, typically in companies it's limited. |
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| 12:59.44 | nomed^ | hi |
| 12:59.44 | Arafangion | nono31: *I*'d recommend using svn and ssh. |
| 12:59.51 | nomed^ | i made a my own apt mirror |
| 12:59.53 | FieldySnuts | nono31: still haven't told us what the vpn server is running |
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| 13:00.04 | greg_work | i have a system that can't run certain commands, like w or ps ax (ps ax runs part of the list, but not everything) .. this is the second time it's happened. it's running sarge, current as of about two weeks ago |
| 13:00.08 | nomed^ | i used gpg --output Release.gpg -ba Release .. |
| 13:00.12 | FieldySnuts | if it's an MS server you can pretty much forget it (and lart the admin for using something inflexible) |
| 13:00.22 | greg_work | any idea what would cause this, how i can check it, and how i can fix it? |
| 13:00.30 | nomed^ | but with apt-get update i have The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ECA28A89C9B4D8BB |
| 13:00.36 | nomed^ | how can i solve this? |
| 13:00.49 | nono31 | FieldySnuts: It is windows vpn server I think (all is wondows based there... until cvs: cvsnt arghhhh)... And it seems to use encryption |
| 13:01.04 | FieldySnuts | yeah you're generally screwed if not using windows then, please lart the admin |
| 13:01.21 | nono31 | Arafangion: agreed about svn and ssh... trying to convince... but does not depends on me though... |
| 13:01.39 | doub | nomed^: you can't, most often that's because there's no signature on the server |
| 13:01.54 | FieldySnuts | faced with a similar situation, i had to convince a branch office to run pptd on their fbsd systems and use a tunnel that way |
| 13:01.55 | nono31 | FieldySnuts: you mean that I can't connec to the vpn because the server is windows based? |
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| 13:02.11 | FieldySnuts | nono31: pretty much, unless you find a way that I wasn't able to in a few weeks of work |
| 13:02.28 | FieldySnuts | which is why i said lart the admin |
| 13:03.09 | FieldySnuts | i could be wrong, however, which would be kinda nice in this case |
| 13:03.30 | nono31 | FieldySnuts: we're trying to do an upgrade of the admin: svn, linux... but he is windows level (very low level)... it is hard... always gives a OutOfMemory: Should fit in 620K! |
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| 13:04.02 | lars^ | Hello i have a sentens in a file called "test c dA d" How can i remove alle sentes from a file with test at the start of the sentens? |
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| 13:05.06 | dimir | sed '|^test|d' file > file.new |
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| 13:05.33 | digitalfox | ld is part of binutils right? |
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| 13:06.09 | FieldySnuts | grr screen just hung on me |
| 13:06.18 | dimir | lars^ : whops, better use: sed '/^test/d' file > file.new |
| 13:06.40 | lars^ | okay |
| 13:06.44 | dimir | lars^: file.new will have it without these lines |
| 13:06.48 | lars^ | okay. |
| 13:06.49 | doub | digitalfox: dpkg -S or dlocate will tell you |
| 13:07.21 | lars^ | dimir: worked, thanks. |
| 13:07.59 | nomed^ | doub, could you tell me more about this? |
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| 13:09.02 | dimir | lars^: no problemo |
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| 13:09.48 | doub | nomed^: i don't know much, except the new apt now deals automagically with package signatures, which come in a separate file, on the repository. you see this message because one of your repositories doesn't provide the signature file |
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| 13:10.40 | nomed^ | doub, that repo it's mine .. |
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| 13:11.21 | nomed^ | The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ECA28A89C9B4D8BB <--- this is my signature |
| 13:11.33 | nomed^ | for this .. i feel i can solve this in some way |
| 13:11.54 | Gathond | nomed^: root might not have the public key available for gpg |
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| 13:12.23 | igge | http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2005.asc seems to be down.. :( is there another place to get that file? |
| 13:12.33 | pete_ | i am just testing out apache2, and i have installed phpmyadmin, but I cant access it. I notice apache2 has sites etc, is apache2 worth figureing out, or should i just use 1.3? |
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| 13:13.08 | Gathond | pete_: do you need the new stuff that apache 2.0 offers (iirc mostly webdav and different threading models= |
| 13:13.11 | greg_work | i have one process that seems to be messing my entire system up.. all i know is it's pid 22794 (running "strace w" hangs on read() after calling open(/proc/22794/stat).. and i can't even ls /proc/22794 (it hangs), though I can for others.. tried kill -9 22794, but its still there |
| 13:13.16 | doub | nomed^: maybe the fine apt manual knows better |
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| 13:13.58 | pete_ | Gathond: prob not no |
| 13:14.16 | FieldySnuts | greg_work: use pstree and kill its parent ( be mindful of the parent killing, killing init is bad ) , alternatively you could be paranoid, install and update rkhunter, as well as chkrootkit for starters |
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| 13:14.56 | doub | greg_work: if it's in 'D' state (uninterruptible sleep, generally I/O), you can't do much but wait |
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| 13:15.54 | greg_work | pstree won't run either (if i strace, i would bet same thing.. stuck when tring to enumerate /proc) |
| 13:17.34 | greg_work | is there any other way i can read it to try and see exactly what process it is? |
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| 13:19.59 | Megalomano | hi! |
| 13:20.13 | Rawplayer | hi |
| 13:20.14 | Megalomano | anybody spanish? |
| 13:20.27 | doub | greg_work: all process information tools are based on /proc. so if it's stuck, you're out of luck |
| 13:20.33 | doub | !es |
| 13:20.33 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:20.39 | Megalomano | thx |
| 13:20.41 | Megalomano | ;) |
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| 13:20.51 | digitalfox|afk | how can one remove and reinstall glibc cleanly? |
| 13:21.06 | digitalfox|afk | if I remove glibc obviously everything will stop working :) |
| 13:21.21 | digitalfox|afk | is there a way to have it do a clean reinstall? |
| 13:21.23 | Slippy | apt-get install --reinstall |
| 13:21.29 | digitalfox|afk | ah |
| 13:21.31 | digitalfox|afk | thanks |
| 13:21.31 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: first recompile anything you would need static |
| 13:21.40 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: or just install it over the old one :) |
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| 13:21.49 | greg_work | doub: should i be able to reboot, or does that look in ps as well? (probably runs killall? ) |
| 13:22.13 | Whisky_ | great...........Ubuntu screwed up: 1. Windows 2. Debian.....i just formated my entire hard disk, heh....and installed Debian again... |
| 13:22.14 | Megalomano | how can i configure apt to get things from debian? i use a distro based on it, but think it cannot get updates from debian, and i would like to |
| 13:22.37 | Gathond | Megalomano: you do know that the packages might break things |
| 13:22.42 | doub | greg_work: you should be able to reboot, yes. or kill the parent process if it's not init, as FieldySnuts told you |
| 13:23.01 | digitalfox|afk | Megalomano, /etc/apt/sources.conf I think |
| 13:23.03 | digitalfox|afk | something like that |
| 13:23.06 | Gathond | Megalomano: anything they changed from the base debian might conflict/be overwritten if you install debians packages instead |
| 13:23.16 | Megalomano | yeah, but i would like to update my packages |
| 13:23.21 | Whisky_ | I cant choose 1024*768 resolution. Did dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server but dont know what exactly to set my refresh rates to :/ |
| 13:23.27 | greg_work | doub: i just don't know what the parent is, as pstree hangs as well |
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| 13:23.57 | digitalfox|afk | Whisky_, assume the lowest |
| 13:23.57 | Gathond | Megalomano: but it would potentially be like installing windows XP updates on e windows 2000 |
| 13:24.04 | Megalomano | :S |
| 13:24.06 | Megalomano | well |
| 13:24.07 | Gathond | Megalomano: if you want debian, install debian :) |
| 13:24.07 | Whisky_ | digitalfox|afk: err? |
| 13:24.12 | Megalomano | yea |
| 13:24.15 | Megalomano | thx |
| 13:24.17 | digitalfox|afk | assume the lowest refresh rates |
| 13:24.28 | digitalfox|afk | Gathond, or vice versa :p |
| 13:24.35 | Megalomano | but i like this one... dont want to download it again ;) |
| 13:24.42 | digitalfox|afk | Debian stable is behind, say, Ubuntu :P |
| 13:24.48 | Megalomano | what cds would i need to install sarge? |
| 13:24.56 | doub | greg_work: well, that's a problem. reboot seems the way to go. but be shure to start in single user mode and watch carefully over the system state, as /proc hanging is quite unusual |
| 13:25.06 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: true, but he seems to want to use debians packages on his debian derivative:) |
| 13:25.25 | Gathond | Megalomano: if you have a fast internet connection fetch the netinstall images from debian.org |
| 13:25.30 | digitalfox|afk | you can use debian packages on a debian derivative, just not necessarily debian repositories :P |
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| 13:25.55 | doub | digitalfox|afk: you might have version conflicts though |
| 13:26.13 | oracle | hi |
| 13:26.16 | digitalfox|afk | If I'm installing a new package that's generally a nonissue |
| 13:26.22 | greg_work | doub: ah, figured out what it is by running l /proc, and seeing ownership (mysql). the last time it happened, i just rebooted, and it worked for a few days |
| 13:26.24 | Megalomano | i have a 4 mb connection |
| 13:26.27 | Megalomano | 3 |
| 13:26.29 | Megalomano | sorry |
| 13:26.34 | greg_work | so running single won't really help in this acse |
| 13:26.35 | Megalomano | is it fast enough? |
| 13:26.36 | greg_work | case* |
| 13:26.44 | doub | digitalfox|afk: what about library dependencies, for example? |
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| 13:27.06 | handi | i got a problem on install oracle9i on my debian, i need some help. |
| 13:27.28 | greg_work | doub: well, thanks for the help. i'm gonna go onsite to reboot, just in case |
| 13:27.30 | doub | !tell handi -about ask |
| 13:27.39 | digitalfox|afk | doub, don't dependencies operate in a fashion similar to Gentoo with >= type things? |
| 13:27.42 | Megalomano | is it fast enough? |
| 13:27.51 | handi | please wait for a while |
| 13:28.07 | doub | digitalfox|afk: they do. but what about a library that has different names on both systems? |
| 13:28.18 | digitalfox|afk | simple, they don't |
| 13:28.19 | digitalfox|afk | :P |
| 13:28.34 | digitalfox|afk | for the most part Debian uses the same names as Ubuntu for libraries |
| 13:28.41 | digitalfox|afk | just as an example |
| 13:28.48 | digitalfox|afk | there are a lot of app name differences |
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| 13:28.52 | digitalfox|afk | and metapackage name differences |
| 13:29.07 | PeterB | !tell digitalfox|afk about enter |
| 13:29.26 | doub | digitalfox|afk: of course, they took sid over. but still, that's not automagical, just "for the most part", as you said |
| 13:29.42 | digitalfox|afk | ARGH, I'm getting really frustrated.My debian system is having a huge problem with compiling |
| 13:29.46 | digitalfox|afk | it's not linking properly |
| 13:29.49 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: c++ ABI changes, currently if you attempt to use sid packages, that might come back to haunt you |
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| 13:29.59 | Megalomano | cya |
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| 13:30.24 | digitalfox|afk | Gathond, any idea why I might be getting ld errors on my debian rig? |
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| 13:30.42 | D13GU__ | hi all/1 |
| 13:30.47 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: not having run ldconfig ? |
| 13:30.48 | digitalfox|afk | /tmp/test.c is a simple "int main(){}" |
| 13:30.50 | reddi | makefile:102: /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/build/rules.mak: file or folder not found - what is missing? |
| 13:31.10 | Gathond | reddi: obviosly that file it looks for |
| 13:31.36 | stew | reddi: what are you trying to compile? |
| 13:31.36 | digitalfox|afk | Gathond, if that works I'm going to laugh, because the other day I was growing so irritated with Linux in general I was about to wipe it all and install WinXP on my good laptop and Win9x on my old one. |
| 13:31.36 | reddi | ok but how to i get a folder build in that directory? |
| 13:31.38 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: not having the stdlib-dev package? .. although that seems unlikely |
| 13:31.41 | digitalfox|afk | And I've never been at that point before |
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| 13:32.06 | Gathond | how does it fail? |
| 13:32.31 | digitalfox|afk | "cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0000000080481c0 |
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| 13:32.39 | digitalfox|afk | something like that, the number of leading zeroes is probably wrong |
| 13:32.48 | cyzie | hello guys, what should i install to enable me to print using a printer? |
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| 13:32.50 | digitalfox|afk | also, "couldn't find package stdlib-dev" |
| 13:32.55 | digitalfox|afk | I'm running sarge |
| 13:33.10 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: its not called that :) |
| 13:33.21 | digitalfox|afk | what's it called? :P |
| 13:33.36 | Gathond | libc6-dev i think if its C and libstdc++-dev if its C++ |
| 13:33.39 | reddi | is there a packet missing which i could install to help the make command find the file? |
| 13:33.47 | Gathond | or something along those lines |
| 13:34.22 | digitalfox|afk | "libc6-dev is already the newest version" |
| 13:34.34 | stew | reddi: the kenrel keaders for your running kernel |
| 13:34.35 | digitalfox|afk | and this is a C program so I'm not even going to worry about libstdc++ |
| 13:34.38 | umbop | hmm does anyone know if it's posisble to somehow send keep-alives over an rdesktop connection? |
| 13:34.55 | D13GU__ | somebody work with asterisk in debian? |
| 13:34.57 | digitalfox|afk | let's get good ol C working first :) |
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| 13:35.28 | digitalfox|afk | Gathond, I've cleanly reinstalled gcc a few times now and it's getting really frustrating |
| 13:35.41 | digitalfox|afk | Gathond, I'm stumped unless you've got another idea |
| 13:36.00 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: not really, havent seen that one before, running ldconfig as root did nothing? |
| 13:36.08 | digitalfox|afk | nope. nothin. |
| 13:36.11 | digitalfox|afk | Same problem. |
| 13:36.28 | digitalfox|afk | and I should also mention the output executable doesn't work |
| 13:36.31 | digitalfox|afk | but I think that's implied |
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| 13:36.49 | digitalfox|afk | "Illegal Instruction" is what it returns, specifically |
| 13:36.59 | Gathond | of cause that wont work:) |
| 13:37.20 | Gathond | it seems like the linker fails in finding the std library functions |
| 13:37.29 | Gathond | what version of gcc are you using? |
| 13:37.39 | digitalfox|afk | 3.3.5 |
| 13:37.53 | digitalfox|afk | though the system has that and 2.95 |
| 13:38.02 | digitalfox|afk | gcc is currently symlinked to gcc-3.3 |
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| 13:38.38 | digitalfox|afk | I've just apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and nothing's changed. |
| 13:38.45 | digitalfox|afk | So I'm on a fully up to date Sarge system |
| 13:38.53 | digitalfox|afk | wait. |
| 13:38.56 | digitalfox|afk | What the hell. |
| 13:39.02 | digitalfox|afk | I'm not in sarge. |
| 13:39.05 | digitalfox|afk | ... |
| 13:39.09 | digitalfox|afk | it's testing/unstable |
| 13:39.12 | digitalfox|afk | >.< |
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| 13:39.35 | Nod51 | almost bash.org worthy... |
| 13:39.37 | stew | !tell digitalfox|afk about enter |
| 13:39.59 | digitalfox|afk | oh, sorry, heh. |
| 13:40.05 | Gathond | but I dont have a really good idea, perhaps reinstall binutils or check the BTS |
| 13:40.25 | digitalfox|afk | or perhaps install Debian Stable |
| 13:40.34 | Nod51 | digitalfox|afk: the important thing is you found the problem. |
| 13:40.40 | digitalfox|afk | well, I haven't really |
| 13:40.48 | digitalfox|afk | but I know why I've been running into so many problems |
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| 13:41.19 | digitalfox|afk | I installed Debian expecting it to be rocksolid, and have been having nothing but problems. :) And, well, I have my explanation for that bit at least. |
| 13:41.25 | Nod51 | digitalfox|afk: yeah I had to ass testing to my sources as unstable is living up to its name again. |
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| 13:42.16 | Yokalosh | Hey, are there any repositories for KDE 3.4.1 for sarge? |
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| 13:42.24 | Nod51 | digitalfox|afk: patience, Debian has a Debian way of doing things, weird for me at first (X Mandrake) but works great when you figure it out |
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| 13:42.46 | digitalfox|afk | I'm using Ubuntu on my main systems, Debian on my lowend. |
| 13:43.21 | digitalfox|afk | is there a way to downgrade to Sarge aside from reinstalling the entire thing? :) |
| 13:43.26 | stew | digitalfox|afk: nope |
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| 13:43.30 | digitalfox|afk | fun. |
| 13:43.30 | DougFunnie | i've updated some packages, and my debian is now testing/unstable, and i want to go back to stable, is there any parameter that i can use, that can overwrite the newer packages with the stable ones from the repository? |
| 13:43.31 | Nod51 | digitalfox|afk: thats cool, pure debian has never let me down that bad so I just use it for my desktop. |
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| 13:43.49 | DougFunnie | with apt, of course |
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| 13:44.01 | Yokalosh | are there ropositories for kde 3.4.1 for sarge or not? |
| 13:44.04 | stew | DougFunnie: no you must reinstall |
| 13:44.09 | stew | !downgrade |
| 13:44.09 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
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| 13:45.03 | leonel | !security-status |
| 13:45.05 | stew | those urls should maybe be removed from the factoid, they don't really give good advice and are dated |
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| 13:48.10 | FieldySnuts | apt: gender? |
| 13:48.10 | apt | I'm male |
| 13:48.12 | balony | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317946 There is a bug that is critical but it is only fixed in experimental. How can I get this fixed in my sarge install? |
| 13:48.14 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: gender? |
| 13:48.14 | ravenbird | I'm pregnant |
| 13:48.32 | xoz | balony: waiting game |
| 13:48.36 | stew | FieldySnuts: bored? |
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| 13:50.10 | balony | xoz: must be some sort of solution? |
| 13:50.14 | Whisky_ | before a format my system was running at 1024*768 @ 60Hz.....now i cant goto 1024*768. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but dont know what kinda refresh rates to set for horizontal and vertical :S |
| 13:50.23 | colmore | Question: I've got an Intel 855GM built in driver, and the i810 driver seems to be installed (it's named in xorg.conf) but OpenGL isn't working. What should I do? |
| 13:50.32 | Yevgeniy | hello, can I use sid for home computer? |
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| 13:51.07 | izn0g | Yevgeniy: you don't want to |
| 13:51.10 | maxxle | Yevgeniy: If you ask this question you shouldn't |
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| 13:51.30 | xoz | balony: you should be familiar how things are done in debian. if you wanna take a shortcut, you should know what you are doing and not asking for advice here. |
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| 13:52.05 | carlad | is kde the most bloated wm? |
| 13:52.14 | outlaw84 | My home network only works in half speed... I only get 5Mbyte/sek between my computers instead of 10Mbyte/sek as I should |
| 13:52.14 | Yevgeniy | last time I had, woody wasn't stable, I'm really out |
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| 13:52.17 | carlad | i need something fast and stable to rollout |
| 13:52.25 | outlaw84 | Its just in Linux I have this problem |
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| 13:52.41 | xoz | carlad: apt-cache search window manager |
| 13:52.45 | stew | Whisky_: consult the documentation for your monitor |
| 13:52.56 | Whisky_ | stew: it doesnt have a documentation, heh |
| 13:53.12 | izn0g | Whisky_: there is a get-edid package |
| 13:53.19 | carlad | xoz: should i try them all |
| 13:53.21 | izn0g | it does what X should do by itself' |
| 13:53.34 | izn0g | and asks the monitor about its abilities |
| 13:53.51 | izn0g | apt-get install read-edid && get-edid | parse-edid |
| 13:53.56 | xoz | carlad: if you want clean and small:blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, xfwm |
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| 13:54.08 | Whisky_ | k...thanks |
| 13:54.40 | Whisky_ | but can you please judge what refresh rates i should set when last time I had 1024*768 @ 60Hz ? I am now att 800*600 :p |
| 13:54.55 | digitalfox|afk | Thank you very much Gathond, for helping me realize what I should've realized ages ago |
| 13:55.11 | Gathond | digitalfox|afk: not quite sure what I did, but np :) |
| 13:55.52 | xoz | digitalfox|afk: that problem is in front of the computer. |
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| 13:56.27 | arno-la-lune | hello everybody, please could you explain to me - or point me to a fine ressource - why deborphan -d <package> sometimes shows duplicated names ? |
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| 13:56.59 | jonkri | anyone knows why i get KBUILD errors when i'm trying to build nvidias kernel module for my gforce card? i'm using 6629... |
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| 13:58.01 | pharm | jonkri: which kernel sources? |
| 13:58.09 | arno-la-lune | na |
| 13:58.17 | jonkri | pharm 2.6.11 |
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| 13:58.27 | jonkri | pharm i just compiled it. no errors |
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| 13:59.54 | Lee__ | could one recommend a method for creating and mounting a compressed RAM disk? |
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| 14:00.02 | splattnik | will mplayer or vlc play *ram files? |
| 14:00.18 | jonkri | the errors i get: NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[1]: *** [module] Error 1 make: *** [module] Error 2..... not very specific |
| 14:00.19 | petemc | splattnik: you open the file and look for the rtsp:// url |
| 14:00.36 | stew | jonkri: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 14:01.14 | jonkri | stew why do i need that? i've never needed that before |
| 14:01.28 | Thumann | hi! :D hmm.. newly installed sarge system.. alsa istalled and configuered.. using mpg123 to play a file.. looks like it's playing.. but i hear no sound! :-/ if i do lsof |grep dsp i can see that mpg123 is using the dsp.. and it dissapears if i stop mpg123.. so that seems to be working |
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| 14:01.32 | Thumann | any ideas? |
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| 14:01.49 | bSue | hey! ich suche ein data recovery tool fuer linux unter ext3 |
| 14:01.59 | fatal__ | jonkri: you need it because binary only drivers suck. |
| 14:02.16 | Lee__ | Thumann: have you unmuted your sound card channels? |
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| 14:02.28 | jonkri | fatal__ and they didn't suck a month ago when my system was working perfect with 3d accel and all? |
| 14:02.31 | bSue | hey! sorry in english. i m looking for a data recovery tool for ext3 |
| 14:02.36 | berzerka | Thumann: speakers broken, not connected or turned off, cable defect (anything not softwarerelated) |
| 14:02.41 | greycat | jonkri: then why did you break it? |
| 14:02.47 | migma | !de |
| 14:02.47 | dpkg | i guess de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 14:02.52 | Lee__ | awwww, snap* |
| 14:03.01 | jonkri | greycat i installed a new motherboard and a new kernel |
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| 14:03.07 | fatal__ | jonkri: just because it happened to work a month ago doesn't meen it didn't suck.... they suck now, they sucked a month ago, they've always sucked.... |
| 14:03.19 | Thumann | berzerka: hmm.. dual boot to windows.. and internal speaker (ibm desktop machine) works fine.. and sound comes out the speakers if i plug in a set.. |
| 14:03.21 | greycat | suck is relative, of course. |
| 14:03.24 | nagual | but i dont want to go to #debian.de , can i please stay? |
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| 14:03.32 | Lee__ | ha! no biggie :) jonkri the "new kernel" part might have something to do with it. Try the one-liner. It might work. |
| 14:03.33 | greycat | nagual: yes, but speak english here |
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| 14:04.36 | Lee__ | is there a more flexable way of making ramdisks with a 2.6 kernel? Something besides all the /dev/ram* entries? |
| 14:04.39 | berzerka | Thumann: well then.. probably try playing a wav with aplay, maybe mpg123 is somehow not correctly configured.. |
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| 14:05.11 | Thumann | berzerka: i see.. hmm.. well.. normally it has no additional setup.. and i hogs the /dev/dsp soo.. |
| 14:05.35 | splattnik | im getting this when playing the rtsp:// "******** !!!!!!!! BUG!! len=576 !!!!!!!!!!! ******** |
| 14:05.54 | berzerka | hmm.. no idea, really.. check the alsamixer settings.. |
| 14:05.59 | harleyg | you know debootstrap, how long does it roughly take to build a full system? |
| 14:06.08 | Lee__ | Thumann: I have a better time using the ALSA command line tools to test I/O, then move to other applications. aplay, arecord, alsamixer. |
| 14:06.31 | Lee__ | harleyg: it downloads a base system and installs it. Uncompressed it's around 128MB |
| 14:06.38 | harleyg | ok |
| 14:06.42 | Loevborg | are there essential vim scripts like EnhCommentify available somewher as debian packages? |
| 14:07.03 | Thumann | alsamixer just grabs a 'dummy card' i guess that needs additional setup? |
| 14:07.15 | harleyg | but i downloaded the .tar.bz, and its just a few files |
| 14:07.24 | useruser | splattnik: sounds like a bug to me |
| 14:07.35 | harleyg | do i need a spare linux hd, and put them on it and use that script to download the base system? |
| 14:08.04 | Lee__ | harleyg: you need a running Debian system and an unused partition for the new OS. |
| 14:08.11 | useruser | splattnik: if you're using mplayer, try asking in #mplayer |
| 14:08.28 | useruser | splattnik: trplayer is a (non-free) minimal realmedia player you could try |
| 14:08.30 | harleyg | i have kanotix on a 80gig hd and a 10gig swap partition, i can make that into ext3 |
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| 14:08.39 | splattnik | useruser: it dosent give me so many messenges when playing as root |
| 14:08.59 | useruser | splattnik: #mplayer |
| 14:08.59 | Lee__ | harleyg: you don't need a .tar.bz. it's one command if you have a network connection. It's documented in the sarge installation manual. |
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| 14:09.13 | harleyg | o ok |
| 14:09.28 | harleyg | i downloaded the debootstrap.tar.bz2 file |
| 14:09.31 | harleyg | its all in there |
| 14:09.32 | Lee__ | near the end, "installing from an existing system" or something like that. |
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| 14:09.58 | berzerka | Thumann: try alsamixer -c 1 |
| 14:10.06 | harleyg | has sarge, sarge.buildd, sid, sid.buildd, woody and woody.buildd |
| 14:10.10 | harleyg | and soem other docs |
| 14:10.20 | harleyg | also a debootstrap script |
| 14:10.26 | stew | harleyg: are you sure you can't just apt-get install debootstrap? |
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| 14:10.36 | harleyg | dont know |
| 14:10.42 | harleyg | i cant |
| 14:10.46 | harleyg | kanotix was made with it |
| 14:10.49 | harleyg | so its already on my system |
| 14:10.54 | Lee__ | what's kanotix? |
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| 14:11.04 | stew | !kanotix |
| 14:11.04 | dpkg | well, kanotix is not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 14:11.05 | harleyg | a linux distro |
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| 14:11.10 | cbr | wtf.. linux-image 2.6.12-k7 is b0rked |
| 14:11.12 | ^rob^ | hello |
| 14:11.16 | cbr | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2005-07-26 17:09 initrd.img -> /boot-2.6 |
| 14:11.18 | cbr | this is not right |
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| 14:11.24 | ^rob^ | how do you get iso image with wget |
| 14:11.25 | cbr | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2005-07-26 17:09 vmlinuz -> /boot-2.6 |
| 14:11.26 | cbr | nor this |
| 14:11.37 | Lee__ | ^rob^: man wget |
| 14:11.37 | cbr | this b0rks shit |
| 14:11.40 | harleyg | kanotix is debian, just debian on drugs :) |
| 14:11.41 | ^rob^ | is there a binary mode or something? |
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| 14:12.02 | ^rob^ | Lee__: i have no clue what to look for in it! |
| 14:12.22 | harleyg | Lee__ i have the sid, sarge and woody .buildd files |
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| 14:12.28 | harleyg | i put them on my spare hd |
| 14:12.29 | harleyg | and run em? |
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| 14:12.30 | stew | ^rob^: its just "wget url" |
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| 14:12.47 | ^rob^ | stew: nope - i have done so - and i have a corupt iso |
| 14:12.48 | Thumann | Alsamixer -c 0 gives me 'Dummy card' and 'Dummy Mixer' |
| 14:12.54 | ubuntu | hola a todos |
| 14:12.57 | useruser | ^rob^: probably not wget's fault |
| 14:12.57 | Lee__ | harleyg: I don't know what buildd files are. |
| 14:12.59 | Thumann | Alsamixer -c 1 gives me function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:1: No such device |
| 14:13.23 | stew | ^rob^: are you sure the iso is not corrupt on the server? how did you test to see if it was corrupt? |
| 14:13.23 | harleyg | there are files caleld sarge, sid and woody, then there are sarge etc .buildd files |
| 14:13.26 | Lee__ | harleyg: I use debootstrap a lot. I've only dealt with a single command that downloads the base system. |
| 14:13.32 | ubuntu | ahi alguien que hable español |
| 14:13.33 | stew | harleyg: read the debootstrap manpage |
| 14:13.37 | useruser | !spanish |
| 14:13.37 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:13.42 | harleyg | ok cool |
| 14:13.44 | ^rob^ | stew: i am |
| 14:13.46 | Lee__ | perhaps you are looking for something that's not part of Debian but merely "based on debian". |
| 14:13.55 | ^rob^ | stew: k3b |
| 14:14.00 | stew | ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-es |
| 14:14.05 | stew | ^rob^: have you tried mounting it? |
| 14:14.15 | stew | ^rob^: did the place you are downloading it from offer a md5? |
| 14:14.35 | ^rob^ | did - md5 is wrong |
| 14:14.53 | useruser | ^rob^: did you try it twice with the same results? |
| 14:14.53 | ^rob^ | it was dl. in 4 steps - 4 days each day a few hours |
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| 14:15.14 | ^rob^ | useruser: yes - once i got a debian iso file - second a suse |
| 14:15.16 | ^rob^ | same shit |
| 14:15.41 | stew | ^rob^: how did you continue the download across multiple days? |
| 14:15.42 | pharm | ^rob^: network errors or something wrong with your machine then. |
| 14:15.57 | ^rob^ | -c |
| 14:15.58 | pharm | ^rob^: you could try using rsync to correct the errors in the iso files you have. |
| 14:16.01 | stew | pharm: wget would be resilient to network errors |
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| 14:16.09 | ^rob^ | pharm: how |
| 14:16.12 | stew | pharm: how would rsync correct an error? |
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| 14:16.37 | pharm | stew: Not really. TCP error correction isn't completely reliable unfortunately |
| 14:16.52 | ^rob^ | i guess i'll use ftp |
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| 14:17.08 | ^rob^ | is there any other tool to get files - like wget? |
| 14:17.09 | pharm | stew: and that's before you get into errors in the computer -- flipped bits, network card bugs etc etc. |
| 14:17.37 | cbr | what does "m-a prepare" do? |
| 14:17.41 | pharm | ^rob^: If you're getting errors with wget you'll probably get errors with anything else. |
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| 14:18.00 | ^rob^ | pharm: i got suse cd2 from the same server - with ncftp |
| 14:18.02 | ^rob^ | it is ok |
| 14:18.12 | ^rob^ | wget iso cd3 is corupt |
| 14:18.17 | ^rob^ | same as deb iso file |
| 14:18.22 | ^rob^ | the one i got it with wget |
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| 14:19.11 | useruser | ^rob^: does wget just corrupt ftp downloads, or http too? |
| 14:20.05 | ^rob^ | useruser: i guess http too - 1 sec i'll look for the other file i got it with wget if it is on ftp or http |
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| 14:20.16 | green_earz | ^rob^: have you tryed to bittorent the debian cds ? |
| 14:20.25 | Whisky_ | I still cant get 1024*768 resolution, 800*600 sucks :[ |
| 14:20.25 | Mez | kelbert ever come on IRC? |
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| 14:20.48 | ^rob^ | green_earz: no - i'll do that |
| 14:20.54 | ^rob^ | but i have no bittorent client |
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| 14:21.08 | green_earz | ^rob^: if you got cd 1 you can do a net install |
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| 14:21.31 | green_earz | ^rob^: thats debian cd 1 |
| 14:21.31 | ^rob^ | green_earz: ty |
| 14:21.37 | ^rob^ | got it |
| 14:21.44 | green_earz | np |
| 14:21.55 | green_earz | all the best |
| 14:22.40 | Whisky_ | green_earz: I cant set my screen resolution to 1024*768, it's at 800*600. I just formated my system and before that it was at 1024*768 @ 60Hz. I tried to reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but I dont know what refresh rates to set for horizontal and vertical. |
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| 14:22.50 | ^rob^ | hmm |
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| 14:23.09 | ^rob^ | i got an interesting link - about how to get with wget and what to do if fail |
| 14:23.18 | ^rob^ | i'll try that way |
| 14:23.19 | ^rob^ | bye |
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| 14:23.43 | ^rob^ | http://linux5.cc.ntu.edu.tw/~georgesk/ << here if anyone is interessed |
| 14:23.46 | ^rob^ | ;) |
| 14:23.52 | ^rob^ | byeeee |
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| 14:24.48 | jEsuSdA | someon can give me a reposotory to install koffice 1.4 on debian?? |
| 14:25.00 | green_earz | Whisky_: sorry but its a google for your refresh rates for the monitor, then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:25.12 | Whisky_ | green_earz: k |
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| 14:25.29 | stew | jEsuSdA: ask in #debian-kde maybe |
| 14:25.42 | berzerka | Thumann: is the module for your soundcard loaded? |
| 14:25.45 | jEsuSdA | ok |
| 14:25.47 | jEsuSdA | thanks |
| 14:25.49 | berzerka | try alsaconf |
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| 14:26.34 | Lektron | On apt-get update, what's the difference between a "Hit" and an "Ign"? |
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| 14:26.49 | KimzA | someone here know an good howto that describe how to install madwifi on debian ? |
| 14:26.52 | sceig_ | i want to format a ext2 partition to fat32. how can i do `? |
| 14:27.16 | bob2 | Lektron: whether or not it found a Release file, afaik |
| 14:27.44 | arno-la-lune | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:28.14 | J_P | hi all |
| 14:28.37 | arno-la-lune | and sorry for repeating myself |
| 14:28.43 | green_earz | Whisky_: or run a copy of knoppix and have a look inetc/X11/XF86Config-4 for the refresh rates knoppix set up |
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| 14:29.07 | green_earz | Whisky_: sorry /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 14:30.09 | sceig_ | i want to format a ext2 partition to fat32 (the ext2 partition is empty). Which tool (command line) allow me to do that ? |
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| 14:30.27 | Thumann | modinfo: could not find module snd |
| 14:30.39 | Lektron | bob2: Thanks, I'm not sure what a "Release file" is, so I will do some more reading. |
| 14:30.41 | Thumann | hmm.. could be the reason! |
| 14:30.58 | useruser | !find mkfs.fat32 |
| 14:30.58 | bob2 | sceig_: mkfs |
| 14:31.16 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'mkfs.fat32' returned no results. |
| 14:31.17 | sceig_ | tks |
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| 14:31.59 | Whisky_ | green_earz: sorry, dont have knoppix :( |
| 14:32.05 | green_earz | ok |
| 14:32.12 | sceig_ | how can i list my partition ? |
| 14:32.13 | green_earz | just a idear |
| 14:32.36 | stew | sceig_: fdisk -l |
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| 14:32.44 | Whisky_ | k |
| 14:32.45 | splattnik | how do i delete the sound with mplayer? |
| 14:32.48 | sceig_ | tks |
| 14:32.54 | Whisky_ | google just finds out reviewes for my monitor |
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| 14:33.32 | useruser | splattnik: -nosound |
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| 14:34.11 | green_earz | Whisky_: google the model number ? |
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| 14:35.26 | green_earz | Whisky_: FCC ID Search > http://www.driverzone.com/fcc_id_search.htm you may be able to track it down there |
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| 14:36.47 | Thumann | Hmm.. the module 'snd' :> where do i find it? it's not in the kernel config is it?! |
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| 14:37.36 | Ungy | is there a package for mplayer or do I need to go find one myself? |
| 14:37.41 | Ungy | sid repository |
| 14:37.49 | maka | olaaaaaaa |
| 14:38.02 | stew | Ungy: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 14:38.05 | sceig_ | mkfs -t fat32 /dev/hda6 |
| 14:38.06 | maka | hay alguien chateando |
| 14:38.08 | simonrvn | Ungy: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 14:38.11 | sceig_ | mkfs.fat32: No such file or directory |
| 14:38.14 | sceig_ | why?.. |
| 14:38.29 | simonrvn | missing the proper tools... |
| 14:38.33 | simonrvn | @installit |
| 14:38.33 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 14:39.38 | MoonPrincess | Anything special required to go from a 2.4.x kernel to 2.6.x under Sarge? |
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| 14:39.51 | berzerka | Thumann: of course it is. maybe you have compiled the generic soundcard support statically into the kernel. i had trouble with that too at some point. try reconfiguring your kernel and compile everything sound-related as a module. have to go now, lunch awaits me. |
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| 14:40.51 | elirips | hello people. with alsaconf it finds my soundcard, but the driver is not loaded automatically during booting. how to do that? |
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| 14:41.15 | simonrvn | MoonPrincess: yes |
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| 14:41.47 | harleyg | while im in kanotix, can i run that sarge debootstrap script on my spare hd? |
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| 14:42.28 | terravolt | ive set up a new domain zone file for bind9 & restarted it , if i do a lookup i get "server failed" ???? |
| 14:42.34 | terravolt | ive never seen it before |
| 14:42.34 | simonrvn | harleyg: have you tried it yet? |
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| 14:42.42 | stew | terravolt: read /var/log/daemon.log |
| 14:42.43 | harleyg | na |
| 14:42.44 | harleyg | :D |
| 14:42.44 | bob2 | !+unix lessons |
| 14:42.44 | dpkg | i guess unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 14:42.51 | bob2 | item 8 |
| 14:42.58 | bob2 | which applies triple for dns |
| 14:43.04 | MoonPrincess | simonrvn so I can't just download a 2.6 source and use make-kpkg expecting it to work? |
| 14:43.15 | terravolt | named[547]: lame server resolving <domain> |
| 14:43.23 | terravolt | :/ |
| 14:43.32 | terravolt | all my other domains work though |
| 14:43.45 | simonrvn | MoonPrincess: *that'll* work, but don't expect your 2.4 .config to work. you'll have to make a new one. also you'll need to install module-init-tools |
| 14:44.00 | bob2 | I think lame delegation is when you're listed in the upstream NS records, but aren't setup to be authorative |
| 14:44.04 | simonrvn | check your zone file |
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| 14:44.18 | terravolt | im going to start over |
| 14:44.24 | terravolt | delete zone file & try again |
| 14:44.29 | MoonPrincess | so I can't roll back if something goes wrong? |
| 14:44.38 | bob2 | it's possble the NS records are screwed |
| 14:45.09 | stew | MoonPrincess: you should still be able to boot the the working 2.4 kernel |
| 14:45.27 | Ungy | damn marrillet's ftp's are down |
| 14:45.38 | FieldySnuts | no big loss |
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| 14:45.46 | simonrvn | MoonPrincess: sure. modutils and module-init-tools can 'live' together. |
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| 14:47.38 | netsurf3 | can this channel offer support for debian based systems? |
| 14:47.39 | harleyg | will removing swap and makign it ext3 while being in my oa mess it up? |
| 14:47.45 | terravolt | i got the same error with a brand new zonefile |
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| 14:48.01 | simonrvn | only for debian. hence the channel name |
| 14:48.07 | netsurf3 | ok |
| 14:48.08 | netsurf3 | thanks |
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| 14:48.27 | simonrvn | the debian-based ones have their own chan |
| 14:48.29 | winjer | anyone know when there's going to be a debian 2.6.12 kernel deb? |
| 14:48.40 | cbr | there is |
| 14:48.43 | cbr | linux-image |
| 14:48.47 | stew | winjer: there is one now, they renamed kernel-image to linux-image |
| 14:48.47 | cbr | new name |
| 14:48.50 | winjer | oh right |
| 14:48.52 | winjer | thanks! |
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| 14:49.09 | bob2 | note a bunch of mirrors are screwed tho |
| 14:49.57 | winjer | this amd64 one i am using seems to work ok so far... |
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| 14:50.19 | winjer | this DVB-T card shall work if it kills me, which it might. it nearly did last time i tried to make it work. |
| 14:50.31 | MoonPrincess | winjer can you point me towards documentation for 2.4.x > 2.6.x with Sarge? |
| 14:51.41 | stew | MoonPrincess: apt-get install module-init-tools kernel-image-2.6-arch where arch is something like i686 or k7... |
| 14:51.45 | simonrvn | @halloween text |
| 14:51.45 | ravenbird | http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
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| 14:52.15 | terravolt | what's the meaning of this ?? "And nslookup said "Server failed." This problem was caused when "forward only" was on, but no forwarders listed." |
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| 14:55.08 | hcy | hi, when my gnome starts up, two identical error screens pop up complaining that no audio device and/or driver is found. I think that for some reason it's trying to load the gnome-volume-control applet into the bar at the top of the screen, though i don't see it in the bar and therefore can't remove it. any ideas where i could look to delete it? |
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| 14:55.38 | MoonPrincess | stew So kernel-image-2.6-686-smp is an actual kernel img, no need for me to download by source from kernel.org? |
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| 14:56.01 | bob2 | of course |
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| 14:56.09 | bob2 | well, that one Depends on a real kernel, but same thing |
| 14:56.21 | flamesrock | quickie -- how do I find out what programs are using /dev/dsp? |
| 14:56.31 | bob2 | fuser -v /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:56.35 | flamesrock | tx :) |
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| 14:57.45 | MoonPrincess | bob2 why is it at 2.6.8, not 2.6.12? |
| 14:57.57 | bob2 | presumably you're using sarge |
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| 14:58.05 | MoonPrincess | yes |
| 14:58.07 | bob2 | which froze long long long before 2.6.12 existed |
| 14:58.34 | MoonPrincess | when I do an update.... whouldn't it grab the new package list? |
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| 14:59.05 | bob2 | no |
| 14:59.11 | bob2 | sarge is frozen |
| 14:59.13 | bob2 | and released |
| 14:59.19 | bob2 | = doesn't get random new software |
| 15:00.08 | MoonPrincess | ooooooooooooh |
| 15:00.11 | MoonPrincess | I get it. |
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| 15:00.24 | sgeigerbot | MoonPrincess: I assume this is what you are asking for: To upgrade testing/sarge to unstable/testing: "sudo perl -pi~ -ne 's/(testing|sarge)/testing/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update" |
| 15:00.25 | Phated | You can just see the little lightbulb. |
| 15:00.29 | MoonPrincess | It needs to be "unfrozen" before new packages will be shown? |
| 15:00.32 | sgeigerbot | ...but I did come into the conversation late. |
| 15:00.48 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: no, sarge is not going to be developed again |
| 15:00.50 | Phated | MoonPrincess: It will not be unfrozen. Ever. Read the information on the available versions of Debian. |
| 15:00.56 | bob2 | etch is the current testing release |
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| 15:01.09 | sgeigerbot | MoonPrincess: errr...sorry. the description in that factoid is a little messed up... |
| 15:01.22 | MoonPrincess | argh.. you're confusing me now. |
| 15:01.40 | sgeigerbot | MoonPrincess: Do you want to use testing instead of stable? |
| 15:01.41 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: so, imagine sarge is quake 1 |
| 15:01.47 | Phated | bob2: Heh. |
| 15:01.49 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: quake 1 isn't developed anymore |
| 15:02.04 | MoonPrincess | When I use apitude, should it not find package updates? (meaning new versions of the package)? |
| 15:02.06 | bob2 | quake 101, tho |
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| 15:02.17 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: no, you've configured aptitude to look at quake 1 |
| 15:02.19 | Phated | MoonPrincess: Not. On. Sarge. |
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| 15:02.22 | MoonPrincess | I have sarge, I understood it to be stable. |
| 15:02.31 | Phated | Which means it isn't developed anymore. |
| 15:02.32 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: if yo uwant new things, tell it to look at quake 101, aka etch |
| 15:02.57 | Whisky_ | err i screwed with xserver-xfree86 by changing my monitor refresh rates and now I dont see anything in GUI mode....so here I am in console mode with irssi :S |
| 15:03.06 | MoonPrincess | so you're telling me packages will NEVER be updated for Sarge? |
| 15:03.10 | Phated | YES! |
| 15:03.14 | bob2 | correct |
| 15:03.20 | bob2 | aside from security fixes |
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| 15:03.45 | Whisky_ | I need some serious help, like bop2 for example =) |
| 15:04.06 | MoonPrincess | ok.. so it I want a kernel higher than what it's at upon frozen status... I'll need to download and compile by source. correct? |
| 15:04.15 | MoonPrincess | *if |
| 15:04.16 | stew | MoonPrincess: some day sarge might move from 2.6.8-2 to 2.6.8-3 but it would only be a security patch to -2 |
| 15:04.21 | Phated | Why don't you just use etch? |
| 15:04.32 | MoonPrincess | etch isn't stable. |
| 15:04.40 | Phated | ... I give up. |
| 15:04.52 | MoonPrincess | lol |
| 15:04.53 | stew | Phated: it could be for a server |
| 15:05.07 | Phated | stew: I certainly hope MoonPrincess isn't in charge of a server. |
| 15:05.13 | Whisky_ | Phated: I got bigger issues then screwing with a kernel eventhough its perfectly ok :S |
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| 15:05.28 | Phated | Whisky_: Why'd -you- change your refresh rates, then? |
| 15:05.52 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: so, when people say "sarge is stable", they mean the package set is stable aka fixed |
| 15:06.06 | bob2 | debian unstable mostly gets it's name from the fact it gets new packages daily |
| 15:06.13 | bob2 | not that they're all shit and crashy |
| 15:06.26 | Thumann | who said my name?! |
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| 15:06.28 | MoonPrincess | I certainly hope Phated is married already... or it's going to be a lonely life with an attitude like that. |
| 15:06.29 | WoodsDog | they need a new term for the unstable branch |
| 15:06.32 | Phated | Sometimes they are but they're mostly just -changing-. |
| 15:06.37 | Whisky_ | Phated: Coz I was in 800*600 resolution and I wanted to goto 1024*768 because before a format i was at 1024*768 @ 60Hz and googling for my refresh rates turned out only my monitor's reviews and proces :| |
| 15:06.49 | MoonPrincess | bob2 oh, ok. |
| 15:06.52 | Whisky_ | prices* |
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| 15:07.09 | stew | WoodsDog: the fact that the "unstable" name scares people off is a good thing |
| 15:07.11 | magik | whats the command to see how much space is left on a partition ?? |
| 15:07.17 | stew | magik: df |
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| 15:07.22 | magik | thanks! :) |
| 15:07.23 | Whisky_ | magik: df -h |
| 15:07.27 | Phated | Whisky_: Changing your refresh rates doesn't give you a higher res. Could have just used the same config. Check your monitor manual. |
| 15:07.30 | green_earz | Whisky_: whats the make and model number ? |
| 15:07.33 | othernoob | does anyone of a plugin for Opera8 like the mplayer plugin for Mozilla/Konqueror/OOo? |
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| 15:07.51 | Whisky_ | green_earz: Philips 105E 15 inch |
| 15:07.54 | MoonPrincess | bob2 So unstable would be getting all the updated software... where as stable would only get fixes to older packages? |
| 15:07.58 | Whisky_ | Phated: dont have a manual :| |
| 15:08.05 | magik | stew, i don't think this is healthy: /dev/hdb1 -1030481690721k 1.0k 0.0k 7% / |
| 15:08.12 | Phated | Whisky_: Urgh, that sucks. |
| 15:08.16 | magik | :\ |
| 15:08.19 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.19 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: yes |
| 15:08.27 | orchid | Whisky_: look it up on the interweb |
| 15:08.30 | Whisky_ | magik: df -h (used for human readble form) |
| 15:08.34 | stew | magik: no, that doens't look healthy |
| 15:08.39 | MoonPrincess | bob2 Are you using unstable? |
| 15:08.40 | magik | Whisky_, yeah it gives the same output |
| 15:08.45 | magik | :\ |
| 15:08.47 | bob2 | one one machine, yes |
| 15:08.50 | asg | magik: better fsck that filesystem |
| 15:09.02 | magik | ok :( |
| 15:09.05 | Whisky_ | heh |
| 15:09.12 | MoonPrincess | bob2 what would you suggest for something I want to put online tho? |
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| 15:09.15 | asg | magik: touch /forcefsck ; reboot |
| 15:09.20 | Phated | Whisky_: 30-54kHz(h) 50-120kHz(V) |
| 15:09.23 | magik | ok |
| 15:09.25 | magik | thank you |
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| 15:09.32 | Whisky_ | thanks! |
| 15:09.39 | Whisky_ | but where do i put that now :S |
| 15:09.39 | Phated | Whisky_: Dude, I googled. |
| 15:09.45 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: why do you wnat a newer kernel? |
| 15:09.46 | Whisky_ | oops k ill figure it out |
| 15:09.50 | Whisky_ | Phated: what did u google for ? |
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| 15:10.00 | Phated | Whisky_: The model name +"specs". |
| 15:10.18 | Whisky_ | ahh i google for "Philips 105E monitor refresh rates" :p |
| 15:10.38 | Phated | Whisky_: Yeah, anyway, use dpkg-reconfigure and use advanced when it asks you how you want to configure your refresh rates, then input "30-54" in the first entry and "50-120" in the second. |
| 15:10.46 | Whisky_ | k brb |
| 15:10.49 | Whisky_ | thanks again |
| 15:10.51 | green_earz | Whisky_: is there a FFC ID number ? |
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| 15:12.44 | MoonPrincess | bob2 Isn't it best to keep updated? |
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| 15:13.06 | roote | hi |
| 15:13.23 | roote | anyone having problems upgrading apache or mod_perl / perl ? |
| 15:13.32 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: no |
| 15:13.50 | roote | apache won't stat. i got this error: |
| 15:13.50 | roote | [Tue Jul 26 16:12:29 2005] [error] Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5 |
| 15:13.53 | roote | .8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2) at (eval 2) line 3.\n |
| 15:13.56 | roote | [Tue Jul 26 16:12:29 2005] [error] Can't load Perl module Apache2 for server lists.uninova.pt:0, exiting... |
| 15:13.59 | asg | gah |
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| 15:14.10 | asg | roote: apt-file search Apache2.pm |
| 15:14.14 | roote | /usr/lib/perl5/Bundle/Apache2.pm |
| 15:14.46 | MoonPrincess | bob2 Why not? |
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| 15:15.18 | roote | asg: sorry, that was locate's result |
| 15:15.20 | roote | asg: apt-file search Apache2.pm |
| 15:15.25 | roote | gives nothing =:-( |
| 15:15.44 | asg | roote: and you have libapache2-mod-perl2 installed? |
| 15:16.06 | roote | libapache2-mod-perl2 is already the newest version. |
| 15:16.24 | magik | asg, stew, the fsck was fine :\ |
| 15:16.29 | magik | but it still gives that output :( |
| 15:16.33 | asg | roote: does /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-perl2/README.Debian* indicate any post install configurage you need to do. |
| 15:16.48 | asg | magik: anything in /var/log/kern.log or dmesg indicating odd borkage? |
| 15:16.55 | roote | asg: it was already installed, i just upgraded (dist-upgraded) |
| 15:17.05 | asg | roote: from what to what? |
| 15:17.10 | magik | i'll check |
| 15:17.10 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: because masturbating over cvs is silly |
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| 15:17.19 | MoonPrincess | haha |
| 15:17.23 | asg | bob2: only if you do it anonymously |
| 15:17.25 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: the debian kernel packages are patched for security issuees |
| 15:17.31 | bob2 | no need to get new versions |
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| 15:17.51 | roote | asg: testing to unstable |
| 15:17.54 | lildude | what books are good for debain |
| 15:17.56 | roote | remove MP_INST_APACHE2 installation option and Apache2.pm - all |
| 15:17.56 | roote | mod_perl related files will now be installed so they are visible |
| 15:17.56 | roote | via standard @INC. also, refuse to install over mod_perl 2 versions |
| 15:17.56 | roote | less than 1.999_22. [Geoffrey Young] |
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| 15:18.05 | roote | sorry |
| 15:18.06 | lildude | nebbie book for freind |
| 15:18.07 | asg | roote: well, first stop is the bts (/msg dpkg bts.) |
| 15:18.09 | magik | asg, not in /var/log/kern.log :\ |
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| 15:18.19 | Specialist | hello, how to apt-get identd? |
| 15:18.26 | MoonPrincess | bob2 ok so it is best to stick with sarge and keep updated with frozen packages... or use unstable with the newst packages? |
| 15:18.27 | drac | Specialist: apt-get install oidentd ? |
| 15:18.31 | stew | Specialist: /msg dpkg search |
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| 15:18.37 | bob2 | MoonPrincess: if you have to ask, don't use sid |
| 15:18.43 | bob2 | aka don't use unstable |
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| 15:18.59 | hcy | one of the utils is i8kmon which controls the fans. it's quite cute, makes a little window with two buttons for the fans. according to the manpage it can be put into the taskbar as an applet, but i can't figure out how. any ideas? |
| 15:19.00 | asg | lildude: www.debian.org has a list of books and documentation. |
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| 15:19.12 | Specialist | drac: how to config it? |
| 15:19.21 | asg | magik: what debian version is this? |
| 15:19.22 | roote | asg: thanks |
| 15:19.26 | magik | woody |
| 15:19.28 | MoonPrincess | soory... jsut tryin to understand all this |
| 15:19.40 | asg | magik: just woody, or woody with some extra stuff from unstable/testing? |
| 15:19.44 | drac | Specialist: "dpkg -L oidentd" shows you files involved, look at config, read man page, google online documentation. |
| 15:19.48 | lildude | debain bible 3.1 any good? |
| 15:19.55 | magik | nope, just a reasonably minimal woody, using only stable |
| 15:20.05 | asg | lildude: I haven't read it but it is written by Mako and other so should be decent. |
| 15:20.09 | nomed^ | shouldn't pdebuild check build-deps in the chroot env after unpackin base.tgz? |
| 15:20.18 | hcy | sorry, that cut off the beginning of my question. I use debian/gnome on a dell latitude. i apt-got i8kutils for the dell stuff. the manpage says that with debian you can install a daemon at startup, and put the i8kmon thingy to control the fans as an applet in the gnome taskbar. but i don't see how to do that. |
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| 15:21.14 | asg | magik: did it just start doing this? |
| 15:21.40 | stew | hcy: did you read /usr/share/doc/pkgname? |
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| 15:21.57 | harleyg | i made my swap hd ext3, i did mke2fs -j with it, i can mount it, yet fdisk thinks its swap |
| 15:21.59 | magik | asg, its a fresh install of debian |
| 15:22.05 | harleyg | shall i try putting a file on it? |
| 15:22.10 | asg | magik: what size is the filesystem? |
| 15:22.10 | magik | installed it like an hour ago |
| 15:22.10 | hcy | stew: no |
| 15:22.13 | magik | 4gb |
| 15:22.22 | magik | approx |
| 15:22.26 | asg | magik: what type of filesystem? |
| 15:22.30 | xoz | harleyg: you have to change the type in fdisk and you have to reboot. |
| 15:22.31 | magik | ext3 |
| 15:22.39 | eowo | How do i allow ftp acess to a directory? |
| 15:22.40 | harleyg | how |
| 15:22.41 | asg | magik: well, that should be fine. Odd. |
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| 15:22.45 | magik | :\ |
| 15:22.51 | harleyg | i can also put files on it |
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| 15:23.00 | magik | i first noticed it when i was trying to install mysql, and it said there wasn't enough space |
| 15:23.01 | magik | :\ |
| 15:23.03 | harleyg | i just want fdisk to show its ext3 |
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| 15:23.14 | hcy | stew: how can i read a gzipped readme? |
| 15:23.21 | stew | hcy: use zless |
| 15:23.24 | harleyg | but without partition etc, i need my other 2 partitions left alone |
| 15:23.27 | hcy | stew: thanks |
| 15:23.37 | stew | harleyg: fdisk only knows partitions, not filesystems |
| 15:23.39 | xoz | harleyg: use cfdisk. it is easy to change the partition type. |
| 15:23.47 | harleyg | ok |
| 15:23.49 | harleyg | well it says |
| 15:23.50 | Kven | Is there a way to see whether X is using dri or not? |
| 15:23.56 | harleyg | /dev/sda6 29127 30401 10241406 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 15:24.02 | harleyg | and also, cfdisk thinks its swap |
| 15:24.08 | sml | Kven: glxinfo | grep dri |
| 15:24.19 | xoz | Kven: /var/log/XFree86.0.log... grep DRI |
| 15:24.28 | stew | harleyg: change the type from 82 to 83. is there existing data on that partition? |
| 15:24.29 | Kven | Thanks |
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| 15:25.09 | xoz | harleyg: changing partition type requires reboot |
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| 15:25.52 | roote | asg: thanks, i solved it. sometimes i forget to check the bts |
| 15:25.53 | harleyg | i have rebooted |
| 15:25.57 | harleyg | since i did qtparted |
| 15:26.00 | harleyg | but im using cfdisk |
| 15:26.08 | asg | roote: cool |
| 15:26.29 | roote | asg: i always assume it's my problem, not debian's =:-P |
| 15:26.31 | asg | magik: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/0321.html (indicates a mismatch between coreutils and libc. That might be worth looking into.) |
| 15:26.39 | xoz | harleyg: it should be easy to change the type in cfdisk. |
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| 15:26.49 | asg | roote: well, with unstable, it is often likely Debian's. |
| 15:26.50 | magik | asg, thanks heaps man, i'll get reading :) |
| 15:26.53 | Jelte | hi there... anyone here experienced in running debian on an embedded arm machine? I have a memory (0-order allocation failed) problem when running dpkg --unpack for libc6. The box has 32 MB memory in total, and about 20MB free.. should that not be enough for dpkg --unpack libc6 ? |
| 15:27.07 | eowo | What is the best ftp server for debian anyone? |
| 15:27.08 | cbr | isn't a seperate /boot partition "The Debian Way"? |
| 15:27.11 | Jelte | (its an embedded arm box TS7200, www.embeddedarm.com) |
| 15:27.29 | asg | eowo: publicfile |
| 15:27.31 | xoz | eowo: not a good idea to use ftp |
| 15:27.44 | lildude | how i update to 2.6 sarge kernal not woody |
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| 15:27.53 | roote | asg: maybe i'm lucky but i've only had about 2 or 3 breakages with unstable. i think all of them were related to apache2 |
| 15:28.05 | eowo | it's so i can upload to /var/www/ straight from dreamweaver |
| 15:28.26 | asg | roote: yes, the really nasty breakages are the ones that you have to watch out for (/msg dpkg sid faq ... read the horrible bugs bit) |
| 15:28.34 | xoz | roote: unstable is not really *unstable* if you know what you're doing |
| 15:28.42 | asg | eowo: doesn't dreamweaver support WebDAV yet? |
| 15:28.47 | lildude | how i update to sarge from 2.4 kernal |
| 15:28.53 | roote | xoz: yep, and it's usually stable for me |
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| 15:29.01 | asg | lildude: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one that suits) |
| 15:29.03 | xoz | roote: same here |
| 15:29.06 | victor_lazar | Has anyone a nessus V2.3.3 system (debian sarge) with all plug-ins running? |
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| 15:29.34 | xoz | roote: except for gaim. but i created a dummy package for the missing aspell lib and it is now working. |
| 15:29.42 | eowo | asg: dont know what webdav is |
| 15:29.57 | lildude | what apaught apt get update |
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| 15:29.58 | simonrvn | eowo: www.webdav.org IIRC |
| 15:30.04 | lildude | whail that mke it sarge not woody |
| 15:30.04 | eowo | thank you |
| 15:30.47 | magik | asg, i'm hoping an apt update/upgrade might help |
| 15:30.56 | simonrvn | does this: www.lakotaperspectives.com resolve for anyone? |
| 15:31.04 | magik | that message said it happened after he installed libc |
| 15:31.14 | asg | magik: yes but if it is a mismatch, it means that something managed to get install that shouldn't. Try anyway though. |
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| 15:31.23 | magik | oh ok |
| 15:31.35 | magik | ahh well i guess i can't break it any more :\ |
| 15:31.39 | magik | and if i do, i'll fkn format |
| 15:31.40 | magik | lol |
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| 15:31.50 | asg | simonrvn: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 15:32.04 | simonrvn | i'm getting the same. ANSWER: 0 |
| 15:32.30 | simonrvn | i'm looking for the court transcripts for arlo looking horse, feb 3, 2004 |
| 15:33.01 | hcy | stew: i read, and it doesn't help me |
| 15:33.26 | hcy | stew: it just says "This program can be used by normal users as Gnome panel applet or started as daemon by an init script." |
| 15:33.40 | hcy | stew: how do i put it in the panel? |
| 15:33.44 | stew | hcy: which are you trying to do? |
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| 15:33.59 | asg | simonrvn: jlschmidt@gwtc.net (there's the supposed technical contact) |
| 15:34.05 | hcy | stew: i8kmon |
| 15:34.06 | stew | hcy: do you know the name of the applet it installed? have you tried running it? |
| 15:34.38 | xoz | konfabulator is now owned by yahoo? well, widgets are the way of the future. |
| 15:34.40 | hcy | stew: i'm able to run it as an application, in its own window, not as an applet on the gnome panel |
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| 15:34.54 | xoz | another point of attack |
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| 15:35.09 | simonrvn | asg: meegwetch |
| 15:35.13 | gamelux|qX | Hello, i just installed DEBIAN Sarge on a SCSI hd that had (1 partition) winXP on it. I wanted 2 install debian on the same HD so left about 10 gB of space. The installer created the other partitions (automatically) in the empty space (ext3/swap/etc) and it asked if I wanted GRUB because the installer found my windows XP prof installation. I said "yes" so GRUB was installed. After rebooting and booting the SCSI from the bios it says: "Error loading oper |
| 15:35.15 | stew | hcy: is there some other binary maybe? dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin |
| 15:35.25 | stew | hcy: i'm sorry i don't know anything about this package |
| 15:35.53 | hcy | stew: no there isn't. ok |
| 15:36.01 | lildude | thanks for help |
| 15:36.07 | simonrvn | asg: (means thanks, fyi) |
| 15:36.15 | stew | hcy: you could consider filing a wishlist bug against the documentation |
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| 15:36.27 | asg | simonrvn: :) I thought it was something disparaging about my ears |
| 15:36.34 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 15:38.01 | aidehua | Where is a good, standard place to mount Samba fileshares on my Debian box? |
| 15:38.27 | aidehua | (I wish I didn't care about this sort of thing, but then, if I didn't care about detail, I wouldn't be using Debian I suppose :) |
| 15:38.48 | hcy | stew: ok |
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| 15:39.51 | Atula | hi, I was wondering, how do I make xchat autoaccept files from users? |
| 15:39.56 | Atula | sorry if it's OT |
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| 15:40.14 | Lee__ | what file would I look in if I want to add a script to extract the contents of a compressed filesystem to a ramdisk mounted from fstab at boot time? |
| 15:40.21 | cyberix | Does the licensing of OpenSolaris allow merging usefull stuff from Solaris to Linux systems? |
| 15:40.34 | cyberix | Is this already hapening? |
| 15:40.49 | Karhuton | aidehua, You could always make the user mount the directories to their own home dirs |
| 15:42.13 | Karhuton | aidehua, but you can use /mnt or make a new root dir (like /samba) if you want stuff accessibly for everyone |
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| 15:42.20 | aidehua | Actually, I might just make a new directory in "/". I used to view this as "untidy", but maybe I'm becoming less zealoty in my old age :) |
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| 15:42.50 | webwolf_27 | aidehua, it is untidy |
| 15:42.54 | stew | aidehua: what type of stuff is on the samba share? |
| 15:42.54 | harleyg | with man debootstrap |
| 15:43.03 | harleyg | there is a full guide exmaple to use the sid |
| 15:43.10 | harleyg | is there one for sarge |
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| 15:43.11 | aidehua | It'll be mounted on a multi-user machine, and multiple users will want the data. |
| 15:43.20 | simonrvn | bah, s/horse/cloud/ .. |
| 15:43.23 | simonrvn | funny thing is, i've met arlo looking horse, too. |
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| 15:43.38 | furrywolf | hey! /me pokes webwolf |
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| 15:44.17 | Lee__ | aidehua: you can consult the FHS and the Debian Policy if you want to be proper about mounting. |
| 15:44.32 | Phated | Oh, go get a cave. |
| 15:44.43 | harleyg | are there any guides / examples to using debootstrap with sarge, as in man debotostrap there is only a sid example |
| 15:44.46 | Lee__ | harleyg: change the word "sid" to "sarge" and re-read the manual. |
| 15:44.52 | harleyg | i have |
| 15:44.56 | harleyg | ahh meh |
| 15:44.57 | harleyg | :) |
| 15:44.58 | Lee__ | and what happens? |
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| 15:45.01 | xoz | harleyg: common sense only |
| 15:45.03 | furrywolf | Phated: bah. oh well, I guess having my email be webwolf@ instead of webmaster@ isn't too original. :) |
| 15:45.09 | Emiml | heello |
| 15:45.13 | Phated | furrywolf: Clearly. |
| 15:45.13 | harleyg | common sense is what i lack sometimes |
| 15:45.16 | umbop | hmm in xf86config-4, what's the valid syntax, to enable the middle scroller, not too sure what it's called? |
| 15:45.45 | aidehua | Lee__: I didn't see anything in FHS about this (only removable media advice). I shall have a closer look. |
| 15:45.46 | drac | umbop: mouse wheel ? |
| 15:45.48 | HiddenWolf | Hey, i'm the alpha-male here. :P |
| 15:46.02 | aktinos | umbop: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 15:46.03 | Lee__ | aidehua: network volumes are sort of like removable media |
| 15:46.21 | aidehua | Good point. |
| 15:46.35 | umbop | yes mousewheel, :) ok so it's zaxismapping 4 5 |
| 15:46.35 | furrywolf | HiddenWolf, webwolf_27... how many other wolves are in here? :) |
| 15:46.39 | umbop | let me try that |
| 15:46.43 | Lee__ | Wolf Eyes |
| 15:46.50 | Phated | furrywolf: Short answer - too many. |
| 15:46.51 | webwolf_27 | furrywolf, I don't use webwolf in any of my email names |
| 15:46.53 | HiddenWolf | furrywolf: enough to have a pack. ;) |
| 15:46.57 | drac | umbop: ZAxisMapping (it's case-sensitive like everything in *nix) |
| 15:47.01 | furrywolf | lol |
| 15:47.09 | Phated | Thankfully, not enough to breed. |
| 15:47.12 | umbop | thanks drac :) |
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| 15:47.18 | HiddenWolf | Heh, I don't breed. :P |
| 15:47.20 | asg | Phated: I think they already have |
| 15:47.24 | furrywolf | HiddenWolf: too bad no one here likes wolves. |
| 15:47.26 | Phated | asg: Gross. |
| 15:47.27 | HiddenWolf | I prefer uniqueness. :) |
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| 15:47.38 | stew | aidehua: if the samba share contains arch independent stuff then /usr/local/share/xxx might be the correct place |
| 15:47.50 | HiddenWolf | furrywolf: yeah, well |
| 15:48.25 | furrywolf | oh well. humans. :P |
| 15:48.39 | asg | furrywolf: and the odd troll or 50 |
| 15:48.39 | Phated | Go lick your genitals if you're so inclined to toss humans out. |
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| 15:49.11 | aidehua | stew: you've made me re-think this -- I should stop thinking about the fact that I'm mounting a samba-share, and think more about the data that I'm mounting. |
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| 15:49.41 | furrywolf | bah! my redwoodvirtual host seems to be down |
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| 15:49.59 | izn0g | aidehua: it could be fstab user mountable smbfs, or autofs or amd |
| 15:50.05 | furrywolf | Phated: if you can complain about wolves, why can't I complain about humans? :P |
| 15:50.20 | Phated | furrywolf: Because you're... not actually a wolf, you stupid human? |
| 15:50.45 | stew | furrywolf: can you take this to /msg or a more appropriate channel |
| 15:51.58 | cyzie | anybody using evolution? why everytime i open an email to read , after i read it, i closed, the evolution crash and restart! im using evolution 2.2.2 with etch |
| 15:51.59 | webwolf_27 | hey can somebody there point me to any really good apt repositories |
| 15:52.04 | asg | webwolf_27: apt-setup |
| 15:52.17 | webwolf_27 | asg, as a command? |
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| 15:52.45 | asg | webwolf_27: yes |
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| 15:52.50 | webwolf_27 | asg, as a command? |
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| 15:52.55 | asg | webwolf_27: yes |
| 15:52.58 | teprrr | hmm, evenings.. why on earth libinklevel/ink isn't in debian's repositories? |
| 15:53.10 | teprrr | I see wishlist with patch from over a year ago.. |
| 15:53.21 | webwolf_27 | asg, I'v setup every repo I could find directly into /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:53.38 | asg | webwolf_27: those are all you need. |
| 15:53.41 | Kven | If I say, not make the /tmp partition... Where will the files be stored that usually go there? |
| 15:54.36 | webwolf_27 | asg, but I can't find windowmaker |
| 15:54.39 | teprrr | and I see no reason on bts or ml why it shouldn't be included |
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| 15:55.11 | asg | webwolf_27: apt-cache search windowmaker |
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| 15:55.28 | jkt| | hi all, does `apt-get install kdm` add it to the runlevel? |
| 15:55.40 | asg | jkt|: yes (/msg dpkg dm) |
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| 15:55.46 | jkt| | asg: tx :-) |
| 15:55.47 | webwolf_27 | asg, ok thanks. I guess I need to look at the apt man page again |
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| 15:56.22 | quiet | hey, how come you guys block tor connections? I thought debian was security focussed?? I just learned about tor, and was trying to use it, but it said tor connections are banned. |
| 15:56.48 | Atula | hey, was there family guy last sunday? |
| 15:56.49 | Ronin | quiet: likely cause tor gets abused too many by morons looking to stir up shit |
| 15:56.50 | asg | quiet: there have been a lot of morons using tor to do what morons do. |
| 15:56.53 | Atula | episode 4x10? |
| 15:56.55 | ohad | is there a way to run du -h without having to run through all the files. just get a snapshot of my folder or drive? |
| 15:56.59 | asg | quiet: check with the freenode guys |
| 15:57.07 | dabreegster | Hey. I've got an unoffical .deb here that requires libsdl1.1, but I've got 1.2 and don't wish to downgrade. I think it might work with 1.2, but how would I change the dependency? I don't think dpkg-deb -X is right. |
| 15:57.08 | quiet | ah, okay.. |
| 15:57.16 | quiet | asg, freenode doesn't block tor... #debian does |
| 15:57.16 | asg | ohad: df (for overall filesystem usage) |
| 15:57.25 | asg | quiet: then ask the ops |
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| 15:57.39 | asg | quiet: or RichiH if he's around |
| 15:57.42 | hcy | do you know, if i edit some keys using xmodmap , do those get saved for next time I boot up? or just until I power down? |
| 15:57.56 | ohad | asg, yes. i know. what about a size of a folder? du -h without having to run through all the files in that dir |
| 15:57.59 | quiet | not a big deal.. i was just curious.. thanks asg |
| 15:58.00 | simonrvn | quiet: yes, and some stupids have been abusing the tor nodes. nothing to do with 'security' |
| 15:58.09 | simonrvn | ohad: add -s |
| 15:58.50 | cyzie | anybody have this experince? in windows, u have vncserver setup. in linux, which vncviewer to use? plz advice. thanks |
| 15:58.51 | Lee__ | dabreegster: you probably should build another unofficial .deb of libsdl to downgrade. |
| 15:59.05 | Lee__ | !tell cyzie about search |
| 15:59.18 | FieldySnuts | !irritate cyzie |
| 15:59.19 | dpkg | cyzie: hi every1 how can I make my libranet werkz lol |
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| 15:59.46 | cyzie | LoL |
| 16:00.09 | ohad | simonrvn, thanks |
| 16:00.09 | asg | cyzie: apt-cache search vnc viewer |
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| 16:00.28 | FieldySnuts | badger |
| 16:01.02 | simonrvn | asg: that email is dead (for the lakota site) |
| 16:01.04 | asg | cyzie: then again, if it's a windows server (non-vintage) or XP, use rdesktop. |
| 16:01.13 | simonrvn | 550 5.1.1 <jlschmidt@gwtc.net>... User unknown |
| 16:01.20 | asg | simonrvn: I hate that. |
| 16:01.26 | simonrvn | me too |
| 16:01.26 | cyzie | asg, server: windows, client, debian |
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| 16:01.47 | prodope | is there a way to change a users username? |
| 16:01.48 | asg | cyzie: then enable terminal services or the remote desktop thingy and use rdesktop, much better than vnc in that situation. |
| 16:01.57 | simonrvn | i find 'windows' and 'server' in the same sentence to be rather um, oxymoronic... |
| 16:02.03 | FieldySnuts | extremely |
| 16:02.20 | cyzie | asg, alright. but what client software should i install on debian in order to access rdesktop on windows serveR? |
| 16:02.29 | asg | cyzie: rdesktop |
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| 16:02.49 | cyzie | asg, noted and thanks |
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| 16:03.14 | umbop | hmm well TheAsp Optopm "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" which didn't make the wheel mouse in the middle work :( |
| 16:03.22 | harleyg | i did debootstrap....... and its on I: Checking component main on http://ftp.debian.org/debian... |
| 16:03.22 | webwolf_27 | asg, thanks again, time for me to go |
| 16:03.27 | simonrvn | i need to get some new drives. i don't know how long this particular drive will last. it's currently housing $HOME, and some /var sub-dirs on my main box :| |
| 16:03.27 | harleyg | how long does thta takee? |
| 16:03.42 | simonrvn | however long it needs to |
| 16:03.55 | Anders | harleyg, i had the same problem, so i tried cdebootstrap instead |
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| 16:04.06 | asg | prodope: well usermod but you have to verify that a) the home directory matches, b) any scripts and dotfiles match, c) any other data matches. |
| 16:04.08 | harleyg | ok |
| 16:04.16 | harleyg | ow long does it take? |
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| 16:04.22 | asg | prodope: generally, it's better not to bother. |
| 16:04.24 | Anders | harleyg, not too long |
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| 16:04.32 | harleyg | ok cooil |
| 16:04.51 | cyzie | asg, is rdesktop secure send data over the network? |
| 16:05.12 | cyzie | asg, is rdesktop applied compression during transmission of data over the network? |
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| 16:05.55 | asg | cyzie: compression is used and the login credential can be encrypted. The data stream, however, is unencrypted. |
| 16:06.40 | Atula | how do I make firefox autostart xchat when I click on an irc.xxx.com link? |
| 16:07.16 | cyzie | asg, sound good and bad. bad as in data stream isnt encrypted. hence what's the point of login encryption? make no sense. if a hacker can intercept the data stream, hence he has the info. |
| 16:07.24 | simonrvn | prodope: adduser. debian's is nice |
| 16:07.34 | asg | cyzie: agreed. RDP is really only useful inside trusted networks. |
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| 16:07.48 | asg | cyzie: if you need to do it offsite, just use ssh to tunnel port 3389. |
| 16:08.34 | cyzie | asg, setup the ssh server on windows? then ssh into the window server? mmmm....i might as well format my company computer and install etch! |
| 16:08.53 | asg | cyzie: or sarge, etch doesn't get security updates until they filter from sid. |
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| 16:10.14 | cyzie | asg, where can i get sarge now? |
| 16:10.24 | asg | cyzie: if you have a unix box with ssh on the inside, you can do ssh -L 3389:windows-server:3389 me@unix-box (and do rdesktop localhost) |
| 16:10.27 | asg | cyzie: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 16:10.44 | cyzie | asg, noted |
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| 16:11.05 | cyzie | asg, thanks! |
| 16:11.11 | asg | cyzie: you're welcome |
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| 16:12.20 | sh4rk | hello, any volunteer for writting article ? |
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| 16:13.34 | snail | sh4rk: what kind of article are you writing? |
| 16:13.59 | sh4rk | i'm not writting anything personnaly |
| 16:14.05 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.12 | sh4rk | i look for people with more talent |
| 16:14.14 | greycat | that's *bizarre* |
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| 16:14.47 | simonrvn | greycat: linux.edu? |
| 16:14.48 | snail | sh4rk: what kind of article? what subject, what forum? |
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| 16:15.23 | sh4rk | linux article |
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| 16:15.36 | sh4rk | i prefer to paste the url in private |
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| 16:18.24 | sh4rk | greycat : your help is more than welcome :) |
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| 16:22.14 | w_emfpilot | Hello all.. Is there a way to install say...gaim, unstable via apt-get that will not remove other related pkgs I have installed? |
| 16:22.27 | jdhutchin1 | not until all of the other packages have been updated |
| 16:22.31 | izn0g | w_emfpilot: it's sid, you know |
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| 16:22.49 | izn0g | there is a way though, but if you don't know it, you should not be running sid |
| 16:23.01 | w_emfpilot | errrrr ok thx |
| 16:23.23 | izn0g | w_emfpilot: i *am* running sid, and I've fought a while to get gaim running ;-) |
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| 16:24.21 | w_emfpilot | izn0g: I've never had and issue with installing gaim just mixed pkg's... gaim was just an example question :) |
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| 16:24.50 | izn0g | yeah, but xorg+gcc and new abi cause a lot of breakages |
| 16:24.52 | TyreseJones | i just plugged in a USB cd writer into my debian box, and for some reason, it doesn't show up in cdrecord -scanbus I know this writer works, because on my RH box... *oops, i said a bad word* it just shows up |
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| 16:25.07 | izn0g | so the best option is to way for this transition to be complete |
| 16:25.15 | izn0g | or to install etch |
| 16:25.17 | dmz | hey y'all, i did an upgrade on my unstable system and now every time i press uparrow or pageup or other control keys it trys to do a screen shot. i'm running metacity & gnome |
| 16:25.28 | dmz | and no flack about "unstable" :) |
| 16:25.35 | Spec | "unstable".... |
| 16:25.41 | fowler | What's up with libaspell15c2 It's been borked for over a week. Any known fixes? |
| 16:25.42 | dmz | heh |
| 16:25.43 | asg | dmz: we were going to point and laugh at Gnome |
| 16:25.47 | asg | fowler: /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:25.52 | fowler | cheers |
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| 16:26.06 | gobject | hello guys! |
| 16:26.12 | dmz | asg i don't want to start a war, but why so negative on gnome? |
| 16:26.12 | gobject | I from brazil. |
| 16:26.19 | greycat | !br |
| 16:26.20 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:26.23 | gobject | in portuguese empréstimo = loan |
| 16:26.24 | stuarta | TyreseJones: make sure you have usb-storage and sg modules loaded |
| 16:26.42 | gobject | How i speak, that I want load an book? |
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| 16:26.43 | dmz | any idea on what would have caused that keyboard screwup though |
| 16:26.46 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 16:26.52 | asg | dmz: it seems to break everytime and update occurs. |
| 16:26.52 | gobject | loan uses in library context? |
| 16:27.01 | greycat | gobject: borrow |
| 16:27.14 | greycat | you "borrow" books from a library, normally |
| 16:27.23 | asg | gobject: they loan it to you for a period of time and then send the goons to get you if you don't return it. |
| 16:27.24 | solemnwarning | is there any differance between a box installed with debian 3.1 netinstall when it was testing and a box installed with debian3.1 netinstall when it was stable? |
| 16:27.47 | greycat | asg: those little old ladies with the glasses? yeah, they're scary. |
| 16:27.49 | TyreseJones | stuarta, How co i check those modules? |
| 16:27.49 | asg | solemnwarning: only if you didn't upgrade the testing box to sarge |
| 16:27.59 | solemnwarning | it is on sarge |
| 16:28.01 | stuarta | TyreseJones: lsmod |
| 16:28.07 | solemnwarning | sarge testing |
| 16:28.11 | gobject | greycat, asg and how speak return books to library? |
| 16:28.16 | greycat | sarge is not testing. |
| 16:28.22 | greycat | gobject: just like that. |
| 16:28.23 | solemnwarning | is there any differance between sarge testing and sarge stable? |
| 16:28.28 | solemnwarning | it used to be |
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| 16:28.39 | solemnwarning | and i installed the boxes when it was testing |
| 16:28.42 | asg | greycat: they can be when riled |
| 16:28.56 | TyreseJones | stuarta, no, they are not there - can i load them via modconf? |
| 16:28.59 | solemnwarning | is there a differance between sarge when it was testing and sarge now? |
| 16:29.08 | fatal__ | solemnwarning: sarge used to be called "testing" but is now stable (and thus called "stable").... |
| 16:29.08 | greycat | solemnwarning: yes. one was testing, and the other is stable. |
| 16:29.10 | harleyg | im still on I: Checking component main on http://ftp.debian.org/debian... |
| 16:29.11 | harleyg | :| |
| 16:29.13 | stuarta | TyreseJones: modprobe <modname> |
| 16:29.15 | fatal__ | solemnwarning: etch is "testing" these days. |
| 16:29.27 | solemnwarning | so apart from the name they are exactly the same? |
| 16:29.32 | greycat | solemnwarning: no. |
| 16:29.41 | greycat | stable is supported by the security team and doesn't change. |
| 16:29.44 | greycat | testing changes. |
| 16:29.45 | asg | harleyg: then it's probably hung on the ftp.debian.org machine that is currently en route to HP. Just restart it a few times till it picks a different pool machine. |
| 16:29.51 | solemnwarning | ok |
| 16:30.39 | stuarta | TyreseJones: If that works suggest looking into udev |
| 16:30.40 | TyreseJones | stuarta, Okay, that's a function of linux I never knew! *umm..* will they survive a reboot? |
| 16:31.01 | snail | solemnwarning: they contain the same code (plus security fixes), but organisationally theyre completely different |
| 16:31.03 | stuarta | TyreseJones: nope, force loaded modules are in /etc/modules |
| 16:31.03 | asg | harleyg: you could always use another mirror |
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| 16:31.19 | harleyg | ok |
| 16:31.27 | harleyg | i can just run the samr command again/ |
| 16:31.32 | harleyg | dont have to del anything? |
| 16:31.46 | asg | harleyg: you should be able to if it hasn't started unpacking stuff. |
| 16:32.02 | greycat | even unpacking isn't that dangerous. |
| 16:32.03 | harleyg | cool |
| 16:32.22 | greycat | I'd only hesitate to interrupt an apt-get if it's actually started *installing* packages |
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| 16:33.50 | alienn | Hi, I just upgraded a woody machin to sarge and now my apache won't start: mod_rewrite.so: undefined symbol: __db_ndbm_fetch_4002 |
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| 16:33.57 | alienn | Anyone an idea? |
| 16:33.59 | Psyp | hi all |
| 16:34.02 | harleyg | whats another mirror i can use |
| 16:34.08 | harleyg | i did it again its it still on it |
| 16:34.08 | greycat | !any idea |
| 16:34.08 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of herring, a little cod liver oil, and a dozen rabid goats. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few hours! |
| 16:34.10 | Psyp | need help for multiple public ip config |
| 16:34.10 | eikesauer | hi! i'm going to install my girl friend a debian machine and want to have automatic (security) updates without any questions asked to the user. how can this be done? |
| 16:34.11 | greycat | harleyg: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 16:34.21 | harleyg | thansk |
| 16:34.28 | asg | eikesauer: cron-apt |
| 16:34.29 | reamtS | How come the /etc/exports does not group of hostname, like > /mybin/local/bin comp1,comp2,comp3,comp4(ro) |
| 16:34.29 | greycat | eikesauer: man crontab, man apt-get |
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| 16:34.39 | eikesauer | thanks! :o) |
| 16:34.43 | greycat | reamtS: UTSL. |
| 16:34.52 | Psyp | i have 4 public ip connecting all trought the same gateway. Should i put gateway address in interfaces file for each ethx ? |
| 16:35.21 | greycat | I think I have a wishlist bug on it asking to be able to get rid of the ",sync" on *every* *single* *fucking* *field* |
| 16:35.25 | asg | Psyp: are they virtual interfaces or real interfaces? |
| 16:35.33 | Psyp | real |
| 16:35.43 | Psyp | i have 5 ethnert card |
| 16:35.52 | asg | Psyp: then yes, they each need a gateway setting. |
| 16:35.53 | Psyp | 4 with public ip and one for my local network |
| 16:35.53 | harleyg | root@glinux:/mnt/sda6# debootstrap sarge /sarge-root ftp.se.debian.org |
| 16:35.53 | harleyg | I: Validating Packages |
| 16:35.53 | harleyg | I: Checking component main on ftp.se.debian.org... |
| 16:35.55 | Spec | What're you talking about, greycat?,sync |
| 16:36.08 | harleyg | guys, now its just root...: |
| 16:36.10 | greycat | /data1 @ccf_vue(ro,sync) @ccf_dvlp(ro,sync) vandev(rw,sync) |
| 16:36.17 | harleyg | how do i check if its finished? |
| 16:36.18 | Psyp | ok but if i put gateway for each eth i lost the connection |
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| 16:36.45 | Spec | root: nice nick -- i think it's taken though |
| 16:36.47 | greycat | Psyp: you can only have ONE default gateway. that's why it's called a default. |
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| 16:37.04 | asg | Psyp: oh, you'll need to setup static routes. I misunderstood what you said. |
| 16:37.20 | Psyp | ok but how can i tell each eth to use the same gateway ? |
| 16:37.21 | greycat | !static route |
| 16:37.21 | dpkg | To add a static route in Debian, just put "up route add -net ...." in the appropriate interface's stanza in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:37.39 | greycat | Psyp: that makes NO sense. NONE. |
| 16:37.40 | Psyp | ok gonna read some doc about that |
| 16:37.42 | Psyp | thanks ;) |
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| 16:37.52 | greycat | Psyp: are you trying to LOAD BALANCE among seven interfaces on the SAME network? |
| 16:37.57 | Psyp | greycat: you mean ? |
| 16:38.06 | reamtS | greycat: what's UTSL? |
| 16:38.09 | greycat | !UTSL |
| 16:38.09 | dpkg | from memory, utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 16:38.24 | Psyp | no actually i've got 4 public ip ---> firewall --> local network with multiple servers |
| 16:38.47 | greycat | Psyp: then I do not understand your comment about each interface using the same gateway |
| 16:39.14 | Psyp | hmmm let me think about how i can explain this |
| 16:39.19 | Psyp | hard for me in english :p |
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| 16:40.22 | Psyp | i have 4 public ip like that xx.xx.xx.1 ( and 2 3 4) but connecting trought a gateway xx.xx.xx.254 (ISP gateway) |
| 16:40.35 | Psyp | i have a firewall with 5 ethnert card |
| 16:40.41 | Psyp | 4 for all my public ip |
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| 16:40.45 | Psyp | and one for my local network |
| 16:41.02 | Psyp | in my local network i have 4 servers |
| 16:41.18 | Spec | Just out of curiousity, how many people are sitting at KVMs with more than 10 computers attached to it right now? |
| 16:41.58 | Psyp | is that more comprehensive ? |
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| 16:42.01 | Psyp | :( |
| 16:42.27 | asg | Spec: who needs kvms when you have ssh |
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| 16:43.00 | Psyp | nobody ? |
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| 16:43.37 | fhffhqvb | Psyp: nobody sometimes hangs out in #bzflag |
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| 16:43.39 | Spec | asg: so you can press a button and change to a different computer, and you can just keep poking buttons...so much fun |
| 16:43.42 | greycat | Psyp: so what's the question? |
| 16:43.58 | harleyg | since i did my thing |
| 16:44.00 | harleyg | debotostrap |
| 16:44.02 | nagual | greycat: you have permissions with dpkg? its 'install guide' maybe should be updated from woody to sarge. |
| 16:44.06 | harleyg | now i do root@glinux:/mnt/sda6# debootstrap sarge /sarge-root ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 16:44.06 | harleyg | I: Validating Packages |
| 16:44.06 | harleyg | I: Checking component main on ftp.uk.debian.org... |
| 16:44.06 | harleyg | root@glinux:/mnt/sda6# |
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| 16:44.27 | sour | Psyp try: sysctl -a|grep proxy_arp |
| 16:44.27 | asg | Spec: but I can ssh into all 30+ debian machines here from my laptop (granted, I do have 3 monitors connected to 3 machines and use synergy over ssh to multiplex them to one keyboard and mouse) |
| 16:44.31 | fhffhqvb | harleyg: when do you get the kicked on flood thing? |
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| 16:44.41 | harleyg | :| |
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| 16:44.54 | jshriver | How do you get lilo to display a vga GUI? |
| 16:44.55 | sour | change all them vars to 1 |
| 16:45.10 | jshriver | I even see there is a debian.bmp and debianlilo.bmp |
| 16:45.16 | Psyp | mys question is how to specify a gateway for each eth in my interfaces config file |
| 16:45.23 | Seeking007 | hello |
| 16:45.24 | Seeking007 | i want to route all traffic received |
| 16:45.24 | Seeking007 | from the address 10.4.1.70 to the address 10.1.4.5, withouth touching |
| 16:45.24 | Seeking007 | the default gateway configured for other traffics from all others |
| 16:45.24 | Seeking007 | machines. |
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| 16:45.36 | asg | wtf is wrong with people today. |
| 16:45.41 | Psyp | actually only one server works |
| 16:45.44 | Spec | i think people are broken |
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| 16:45.48 | Psyp | other can't connect |
| 16:46.00 | Psyp | really hard for me to explain sorry |
| 16:46.07 | harleyg | since i did the deboot thing with the other debian mirror, and it got stuck ont hat thing, ive tried with another mirror, and it just skips it |
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| 16:46.42 | amorph | hi guys |
| 16:46.46 | asg | bibtex: lartc.org |
| 16:46.53 | amorph | how do you get an update to aliases? |
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| 16:46.59 | bibtex | hello |
| 16:47.00 | bibtex | i want to route all traffic received |
| 16:47.00 | bibtex | from the address 10.4.1.70 to the address 10.1.4.5, withouth touching |
| 16:47.00 | bibtex | the default gateway configured for other traffics from all others |
| 16:47.00 | bibtex | machines. |
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| 16:47.04 | asg | amorph: source ~/.bashrc |
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| 16:47.22 | asg | bibtex: do that again and I'm going to find you and rip the cat5 out of your wall |
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| 16:47.25 | amorph | asg: i mean the mail aliases (/etc/aliases) |
| 16:47.30 | asg | amorph: newaliases |
| 16:47.35 | amorph | asg: thanks! |
| 16:47.39 | bibtex | sorry |
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| 16:47.55 | bibtex | asg: I did't mean it |
| 16:47.59 | asg | bibtex: go to lartc.org, read about advanced routing in their fine howto. |
| 16:48.03 | bibtex | sorry, I am a polite user |
| 16:48.09 | harleyg | you know the debian mirror i hae to use with debootstrap, ive tried 3 off the mirror site and they dotn work, what are alternatives to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 16:48.14 | penguin | I want to post my /etc/network/interfaces file to this chat? |
| 16:48.22 | asg | penguin: #flood or /msg dpkg paster |
| 16:48.26 | bibtex | asg: thank you very much |
| 16:48.32 | asg | bibtex: you're welcome |
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| 16:49.56 | penguin | Does anyone here understand networking? |
| 16:50.12 | greycat | #iptables and #networking might. |
| 16:50.19 | nagual | poll? |
| 16:50.56 | penguin | greycat, can you look at flood and tell me why my computer does not use the ip address I am giving it? |
| 16:51.00 | prodope | is there a way to change a users username? or would i have to adduser and copy the homedir, etc |
| 16:51.02 | greycat | I've got some tin cans, though. Anyone got some string? |
| 16:51.13 | greycat | prodope: vipw |
| 16:51.14 | nagual | prodope: vipw |
| 16:52.49 | penguin | dhcp on Debian has me completely stumped. |
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| 16:53.04 | fhffhqvb | penguin: why? |
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| 16:53.26 | fhffhqvb | penguin: client or server? |
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| 16:53.31 | greycat | !dhcp client |
| 16:53.31 | dpkg | To set up a DHCP client in Debian 3.0 and later, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and put "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in it. Then do "ifup -a" or reboot. If you have trouble with 2.4.x kernels, try "apt-get install dhcp3-client" (instead of dhcp-client). In potato, same thing but without "auto eth0". see 'kernel options for dhcp' or 'kernel dhcp'. |
| 16:53.47 | penguin | Look at flood and tell me why I am not getting the ip addresses I am putting in interfaces |
| 16:53.53 | Emiml | do you know how can I turn off computer by gdm, without entering root password |
| 16:54.03 | greycat | if you're putting an address in interfaces, it ain't DHCP. |
| 16:54.04 | penguin | s/address/addresses |
| 16:54.11 | Spec | Emiml: ctrl+alt+del |
| 16:54.23 | greycat | Spec: gdm takes that? |
| 16:54.28 | Spec | no |
| 16:54.30 | Spec | i suppose not :p |
| 16:54.31 | penguin | The computer is on a dhcp network |
| 16:54.41 | penguin | But I set up interfaces for static address. |
| 16:55.07 | penguin | <---Completely confused |
| 16:55.29 | Emiml | Spec: no it doesn't work. I have just echo in inittab for those kyes |
| 16:56.14 | penguin | !dhcp client |
| 16:56.14 | dpkg | To set up a DHCP client in Debian 3.0 and later, edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and put "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in it. Then do "ifup -a" or reboot. If you have trouble with 2.4.x kernels, try "apt-get install dhcp3-client" (instead of dhcp-client). In potato, same thing but without "auto eth0". see 'kernel options for dhcp' or 'kernel dhcp'. |
| 16:56.14 | Spec | ah |
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| 16:58.19 | weisserRiese | hi folks |
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| 16:58.55 | penguin | If computer is behind a linksys dhpc blue box server, you cant give it a static address? |
| 16:59.15 | greycat | sure you can. the address may not WORK for any practical purpose, but you can *assign* it. |
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| 16:59.23 | penguin | s/dhcp/dhpc |
| 16:59.25 | greycat | you can assign an IP address of 1.2.3.4 if you want. |
| 16:59.30 | greycat | it won't *work*, but you can assign it. |
| 16:59.53 | penguin | So you cant assign it a static address behind linksys blue box? |
| 16:59.59 | Eclipser | penguin, you got it wrong :) |
| 17:00.09 | Eclipser | it's s/dhpc/dhcp/ |
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| 17:00.51 | spamalope | if i do apt-get install fluxbox does it install all the stuff i need? |
| 17:01.04 | penguin | So how do you set up a linux computer with a bunch of windows computers? |
| 17:01.09 | asg | spamalope: install x-window-system-core also |
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| 17:01.26 | penguin | <-- Totally confused????? |
| 17:01.50 | csy | anyone help me with rtg? when i run ./configure |
| 17:01.55 | csy | the first error message i get is.. |
| 17:01.56 | csy | configure: error: Cannot link with thread-safe MySQL lib (libmysqlclient_r) |
| 17:02.00 | asg | penguin: what is the dhcp range your 'blue box' gives out? |
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| 17:02.18 | epictetus | I use static addresses behind a linksys |
| 17:02.20 | penguin | 192.168.1.100 and above |
| 17:02.27 | epictetus | works fine for me |
| 17:02.30 | Joven | how can I have a powerful speed internet using my dial-up isp? |
| 17:02.31 | Yokalosh | yay me too |
| 17:02.32 | asg | penguin: then assign a static address of, ohh, say 192.168.1.50 |
| 17:02.34 | ercin | hi all, i have inserted "include /etc/modprobe.d/" in to /etc/modprobe.conf |
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| 17:02.52 | ercin | now its complainin that there is no file like /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 17:02.53 | penguin | I did. Look at my /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:03.10 | ercin | did i forget something? |
| 17:03.10 | penguin | I will post again to flood. |
| 17:03.13 | Yokalosh | what is the best winamp type player that can connect to and broadcast over shoutcast servers? |
| 17:03.14 | archpollux | hi |
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| 17:03.22 | Yokalosh | for debian |
| 17:03.24 | archpollux | anyone knows what's happening to ftp.debian.org |
| 17:03.35 | archpollux | i can't ping it sometimes |
| 17:03.41 | asg | archpollux: /topic |
| 17:03.58 | Joven | how can I have a powerful speed internet using my dial-up isp? |
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| 17:04.22 | b00rg34r | hi |
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| 17:04.39 | asg | Joven: do you own thet ISP? |
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| 17:05.43 | archpollux | asg: funny, i was just looking at the topic, but i didn't see the first msg |
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| 17:06.43 | Joven | nope |
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| 17:07.30 | Joven | how can I maximized the speed of my modem |
| 17:08.02 | penguin | Do I have to do ifdown before ifup? |
| 17:08.03 | green_earz | Joven: is it a dailup ? |
| 17:08.13 | fhffhqvb | Joven: if the question is not debian specific, don't ask in here. |
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| 17:08.17 | RabidDog | joven repeating too much might get ya in trouble |
| 17:08.30 | fhffhqvb | Joven on #ubuntu #debian #gentoo |
| 17:08.45 | Joven | yes green_earz |
| 17:08.50 | balony | Anyone have a deb for sarge with this fix included? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317946 |
| 17:09.15 | harleyg | ok i setup debootstrap now, ive chrooted into it, but i wanna know how to change the info like uname, and where do i compile the kernel? |
| 17:09.32 | penguin | OK so how to use ifup? |
| 17:09.33 | harleyg | i wanna know how to make it think its called "glinux" |
| 17:09.34 | harleyg | :D |
| 17:09.36 | RabidDog | how do I increase buffering in totem xine? |
| 17:09.42 | asg | balony: you may want to ask #debia-amd64 |
| 17:09.46 | asg | penguin: /sbin/ifup eth0 |
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| 17:10.10 | penguin | interface already configured |
| 17:10.12 | asg | penguin: if it's still trying to get dhcp, kill the dhcp client |
| 17:10.20 | green_earz | Joven: set the mtu size to 576 its in /etc/ppp/options |
| 17:10.35 | asg | balony: s/debia/debian/ |
| 17:10.59 | Joven | ok |
| 17:11.18 | Joven | any other configuration? |
| 17:11.28 | green_earz | Joven: in the /etc/ppp/options remove the # on the mtu |
| 17:12.15 | penguin | HOw to kill the dhcp client? ps ax brings nothing with dhcp. |
| 17:12.22 | Joven | ok |
| 17:12.31 | Joven | any other configuration? |
| 17:12.32 | asg | penguin: make sure also the interface is down /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down |
| 17:12.41 | harleyg | ok i setup debootstrap now, ive chrooted into it, but i wanna know how to change the info like uname, and where do i compile the kernel? i wanna make it called glinux etc |
| 17:13.00 | asg | penguin: also, ps ax | grep dh (since dhclient is probably what is in use.) |
| 17:14.09 | Joven | green_earz: my internet connection using dial-up were share into my 4 computer. |
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| 17:15.23 | Joven | green_earz: what program can I install to maximized the speed of internet.do the internet acceleration program can do something? |
| 17:15.48 | Joven | what program can I install to maximized the speed of internet.do the internet acceleration program can do something? |
| 17:15.52 | fhffhqvb | !confuse Joven |
| 17:15.53 | dpkg | No, who are my badger tomorrow, Joven? shirts of the republic of micronesia with extra cream |
| 17:15.57 | green_earz | Joven: is have through debian gateway box ? |
| 17:16.17 | jdhutchin1 | Joven, you can get into some really advanced network tuning that isn't much use unless you have a huge netework |
| 17:16.26 | green_earz | Joven: sorry is that |
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| 17:16.30 | jdhutchin1 | Joven, other than that, you can get a faster conncetion, that's it |
| 17:16.45 | Joven | <green_earz>:what is that? |
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| 17:18.01 | Joven | gateway box? |
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| 17:18.16 | green_earz | Joven: one box that is doing the dialup and sharing it with the others |
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| 17:19.14 | Joven | u mean, my hub? |
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| 17:19.48 | green_earz | Joven: have a look at shorewall for a gateway setup |
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| 17:20.25 | Joven | my hub is only 10mbps & my lancard is 10/100 also 10mbps |
| 17:20.33 | Joven | shorewall? |
| 17:20.43 | Joven | where can I find that? |
| 17:21.04 | green_earz | Joven: apt-cache search shorewall |
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| 17:22.29 | Whisky_ | ok im trying to install Debian on my dad's system and in the middle it says "No partitionable media detected; check if you hard disk is properly connected" or something like that.... :| |
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| 17:23.20 | green_earz | Whisky_: run a cleaning cd on the cd rom |
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| 17:23.35 | asg | Whisky_: is it a SATA based system? Are you using linux26 as the install kernel? |
| 17:23.41 | Whisky_ | green_earz, Its about the HDD |
| 17:23.46 | s0n1 | someone see this problem in debian ? |
| 17:23.47 | s0n1 | Can't locate object method "new" via package "XML::SAX::Expat::Incremental" at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/XML/SAX/ParserFactory.pm line 43. |
| 17:24.05 | Whisky_ | asg, its a Seagate HDD but the kernel that comes default with the installation is 2.4.x |
| 17:24.12 | s0n1 | i have url for this error in debian but don't resolv |
| 17:24.15 | s0n1 | http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/perl-xml/2586579 |
| 17:24.18 | asg | Whisky_: then try the 2.6 install kernel, it might help. |
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| 17:24.41 | ffed | hi there |
| 17:24.43 | green_earz | Whisky_: as asg say linux26 at the boot |
| 17:24.48 | Whisky_ | asg, Cant, there's no option in the installation. And yes, it works on my system :/ |
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| 17:24.58 | asg | Whisky_: do you have a sarge install disc? |
| 17:25.06 | Whisky_ | err? I cant even install it, where do i get the 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:25.18 | asg | Whisky_: are you installing via a cdrom? |
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| 17:25.29 | stew | Whisky_: /msg dpkg ig ; read the boot screen |
| 17:25.29 | Whisky_ | asg, YES! |
| 17:25.35 | Diguinho | can someone confirm if there's been 2 or 3 days without updates for SID? |
| 17:25.39 | kay | Whisky_: if you are installation via a boot cd. type "linux26" at the boot prompt |
| 17:25.40 | Whisky_ | :S |
| 17:25.44 | asg | Whisky_: when you first put it in and you get the Debian screen and the boot: prompt, type linux26 |
| 17:25.51 | Whisky_ | im installing!! |
| 17:25.52 | ffed | how much swap space should i reserve for a pentium 4, with 1 gb physical memory, primary use: workstaion, probably some gaaming too ? |
| 17:25.52 | Whisky_ | ohh kk |
| 17:26.00 | asg | Whisky_: then reinstall |
| 17:26.17 | Whisky_ | why does it work on my system ? |
| 17:26.23 | asg | ffed: you probably won't need more than 256M |
| 17:26.25 | aktinos | Diguinho: see the topic |
| 17:26.26 | asg | ffed: if that |
| 17:26.30 | ke6isf | Whisky_: magic smoke. |
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| 17:26.37 | Whisky_ | :/ |
| 17:26.40 | asg | Whisky_: are the systems absolutely identical in every way? |
| 17:26.47 | Whisky_ | asg, In no way =) |
| 17:26.48 | Diguinho | oh! |
| 17:26.53 | Diguinho | what's etch ?? |
| 17:26.54 | Whisky_ | but both HDD's are seagate |
| 17:26.59 | ke6isf | !etch |
| 17:26.59 | dpkg | etch is, like, the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 17:27.06 | ffed | asg: installer suggest 1gb by default? |
| 17:27.09 | Diguinho | ohh how cutie |
| 17:27.12 | asg | Whisky_: then there is no guarantee that what works on one will work on another; It depends on the hardware supported. |
| 17:27.17 | Diguinho | and what's newraff & newsamosa? :) |
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| 17:27.25 | asg | ffed: yeah, that's an old maxim for when we didn't have 1g of memory in machines. |
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| 17:27.34 | Joven | <green_earz> Joven: apt-cache search shorewall---what is that? |
| 17:27.39 | stew | Diguinho: debian machines which are involved in the building of packages |
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| 17:27.50 | Diguinho | thanks for the information! |
| 17:27.51 | Draconicus | I've accidentally worked my way onto Sid with many packages, as some of you know. Although my base-files package and dpkg are still to-date with testing's versions, thankfully, unstable's server has been on my list of package sources for quite a while, and thusly I have a number of unstable packages. I'm somewhere between Etch and Sid, I guess. My question is this: Can I remove unstable's server from my list and wait for testi |
| 17:27.52 | Draconicus | ng to catch up? |
| 17:27.54 | Whisky_ | by the way, i dont see the debian logo either...All i see is that the upper half of the screen is white and the lower hald is black with this written" Press F1 for Options; Enter to Boot" |
| 17:27.55 | Whisky_ | heh |
| 17:28.03 | ffed | asg: allrigt, i think ill stick to the 1 gb swap space... i mean you cna never have too much of it or ? |
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| 17:28.17 | asg | ffed: true but if it never gets used, then it's wasted space. |
| 17:28.20 | TyreseJones | stuarta, Hi, thanks for that solution earier |
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| 17:28.32 | green_earz | Joven: you can set up a gateway with shorewall > http://www.shorewall.net/ |
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| 17:28.44 | TyreseJones | stuarta, Will loading those modules manually @ the command prompt survive a reboot? |
| 17:28.47 | ffed | asg: allrighty then..... - thanx for now |
| 17:28.52 | asg | ffed: you're welcome |
| 17:28.52 | ffed | on to the instlling :) |
| 17:28.53 | ke6isf | How does one *downgrade* from a certain branch (e.g., sid to (say) etch)? |
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| 17:29.08 | asg | ke6isf: you don't generally since it is rarely easy. |
| 17:29.15 | asg | ke6isf: backup your volatile stuff, reinstall. |
| 17:29.23 | idis | ke6isf: and not designed for |
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| 17:29.39 | reamtS | !reinstall |
| 17:29.39 | dpkg | well, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 17:29.56 | Draconicus | Speaking of the Debian logo, I wanted to compile that into my kernel, but my compilation had problems for obvious reasons. Is this logo thing also available as a package to install? Please observe my dpkg source list question, first. |
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| 17:30.11 | ke6isf | Draconicus: ...and that would be your answer. |
| 17:30.14 | asg | Draconicus: /msg dpkg bootsplash (non-trivial) |
| 17:30.16 | Joven | green_earz:what will happen if I don't have a gateway in my computers..my os is win98se |
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| 17:30.57 | Whisky_ | and yes, how do i make my system execute a special command on every startup? I want it to mount my windows file system but it doesnt work eventhough i put it in /etc/fstab......doing it manually does it |
| 17:31.02 | reamtS | Draconicus: why not use bootsplash, that way you can have any logo or wallpaper u wanted. |
| 17:31.10 | Draconicus | !u |
| 17:31.10 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 17:31.15 | Draconicus | That's why. :P |
| 17:31.17 | ke6isf | Whisky_: You can stick it in /etc/init.d |
| 17:31.17 | asg | Whisky_: autofs is an option, /msg dpkg rc.local also |
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| 17:31.36 | Draconicus | Chatspeak... one of my many pet peeves. |
| 17:31.48 | green_earz | Joven: if you want to share a connection you need a gateway and if you are using dialup. it will be on that box |
| 17:31.48 | Draconicus | Don't even say you can't have more than one. |
| 17:31.49 | Joven | green_earz:what will happen if I don't have a gateway in my computers..my os is win98se |
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| 17:31.55 | ordi666 | join #debian-fr |
| 17:32.06 | ordi666 | sorry for this :S |
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| 17:32.14 | reppel | hi, firefox crashes with pages containing flash, is there a fix? i've already set XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS to 1 |
| 17:32.29 | asg | reppel: don't visit pages that contain flash |
| 17:32.57 | ke6isf | reppel: Don't do that, then. |
| 17:33.01 | stew | or uninstall flash |
| 17:33.05 | asg | or disable it |
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| 17:33.22 | reppel | some serious answers? |
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| 17:33.30 | Draconicus | Teehee. |
| 17:33.32 | Joven | ok |
| 17:33.33 | asg | reppel: those were the serious answers |
| 17:33.44 | Phated | Feh, may the dragon eat you and spit your bones into the cave you belong in. |
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| 17:33.55 | Phated | Or simply bite your head off, I'm not fussy. |
| 17:34.08 | uira | eu sou o uirá! |
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| 17:34.15 | Phated | Hear hear. |
| 17:34.16 | Joven | green_earz:is it can affect my speed in the internet.? |
| 17:34.16 | uira | olá amiguinhos... |
| 17:34.20 | furrywolf | bah. you're not nice, are you. :P |
| 17:34.29 | ke6isf | !br |
| 17:34.29 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:34.50 | TyreseJones | if i load modules manually fromthe command line, will they survive a reboot? |
| 17:35.01 | asg | TyreseJones: no |
| 17:35.10 | asg | TyreseJones: look at /etc/modules |
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| 17:35.34 | green_earz | Joven: on dialup your connection speed is 56 k and how good the line is |
| 17:36.01 | kay | Ok. my question time :). ive been trying a debian net install (2.6. kernel as my motherboard has the nvidia chipset and wont load the forcedeth module in 2.4) and autoconfig fails on my network. so i manually configure. now for looking up DNSs i first tried my router. Got into the base system, trying to test apt & it fails because it cant look up the mirrors. so i go through it again, and try it again, this time using my ISPs nameservers. they fa |
| 17:36.13 | kay | i hope that all was sent, that was sorta long :| |
| 17:36.23 | asg | Joven: if you want to increase your web speed, you can install a local proxy server (like squid) and have it cache static data. |
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| 17:36.31 | ke6isf | kay: After "they f", you broke. Start from there. |
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| 17:36.36 | kay | damn ok |
| 17:36.46 | kay | they fail too. does anyone have any idea of possible causes/solutions or things i should look into? |
| 17:37.01 | asg | kay: did you configure them in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 17:37.32 | ke6isf | kay: Is the computer in question behind the router? If so, is port 53 open on the router? |
| 17:37.34 | kay | asg: it went through sort of a terminal 'wizard' by default with the net inst iso i burnt. so i just used that |
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| 17:37.57 | green_earz | kay: install etherconf to help setup your network config and for your mirrors use the command apt-setup |
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| 17:38.06 | asg | kay: well, does /etc/resolv.conf have nameserver entries that looks sane? also, can you ping machines by IP (i.e. 166.82.1.3) |
| 17:38.10 | Joven | ok ty green_earz bye |
| 17:38.18 | green_earz | ok and all the best |
| 17:38.19 | Joven | ok thnkyou green_earz bye |
| 17:38.23 | green_earz | np |
| 17:38.58 | kay | asg: i didnt check out resolv.conf after this. i just shutdown the system. perhaps i should run as far into the installation as i can and sort it then do you think? |
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| 17:39.44 | asg | kay: if you aren't using a net install, it would be easier to just install it and get it to work afterwards. |
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| 17:40.07 | kay | yea, perhaps i should burn the binary image instead and go that way |
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| 17:41.12 | kay | ok then, thanks for ur help. im off to go try that instead |
| 17:41.18 | ke6isf | !ur |
| 17:41.19 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
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| 17:42.26 | TyreseJones | asg, so how can i make sure those modules are incuded when it reboots? |
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| 17:43.08 | Rickyx | Hi! I created a virtual os disk image. Then I installed hurd using crosshurd. I want to boot into it using qemu/bochs. How do I do ? It's not booting. Do I need to put some bootloader into the virtual os disk image ? |
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| 17:43.51 | ke6isf | !tell TyreseJones -about modconf |
| 17:44.36 | TyreseJones | ke6isf, I've been all through modconf - it tells me that the modules i had to manually load, are already incuded in the kernel - i want them to load automatically, instead of me having to do it |
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| 17:44.56 | |sparr| | is there any front end for manipulating the startup scripts at various runlevels? i know i can just delete the links from /etc/rc.N.d but that seems inappropriate |
| 17:45.15 | Rickyx | |sparr|: rcconf |
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| 17:45.20 | asg | TyreseJones: add them one per line to /etc/modules |
| 17:45.37 | TyreseJones | asg OH, that's what you meant earlier! *feeling stupid!* thanks |
| 17:45.41 | goccia | |sparr|: sysvconfig |
| 17:45.41 | |sparr| | thanks |
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| 17:46.08 | green_earz | TyreseJones: if you install a module with modconf it will be automatically loaded at boot |
| 17:46.18 | asg | goccia: does it still segv when you hit PGUP? |
| 17:46.32 | Laibsch | Is there anything comparable to screen that can be used to attach and detach to and from a running X session? |
| 17:46.35 | goccia | asg: i'll check later :) |
| 17:46.36 | TyreseJones | asg - it's done, man, that was SO SIMPLE! |
| 17:47.02 | asg | Laibsch: rfb |
| 17:47.10 | TyreseJones | green_earz, I'll add them, and then check on a reboot later - thanks for the help guys, ke6isf asg and green_earz |
| 17:47.17 | asg | TyreseJones: do test it to verify that everything comes up okay though. |
| 17:47.22 | |sparr| | Rickyx: can it modify other runlevels than the default one? |
| 17:47.22 | Laibsch | asg: Thanks: I'll look into it. |
| 17:47.27 | green_earz | np |
| 17:47.37 | Rickyx | |sparr|: sysv-rc-conf |
| 17:47.48 | Rickyx | |sparr|: Use this. It'll do your job. |
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| 17:47.51 | arno-la-lune | Please could you explain to me - or point me to a fine ressource - why deborphan -d <package> sometimes shows duplicated names ? excuse me for repeating for the third time my question :) |
| 17:48.04 | InfraRed | hi all, what does rc mean when i do dpkg -l ? |
| 17:48.13 | InfraRed | like this : |
| 17:48.14 | InfraRed | rc libapache-mod-php4 4.3.10-15 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag |
| 17:48.34 | znx | recomended ? |
| 17:48.35 | asg | InfraRed: removed but not purged |
| 17:48.39 | arno-la-lune | uninstalled but not purged |
| 17:48.40 | arno-la-lune | :) |
| 17:48.41 | znx | :P |
| 17:48.42 | InfraRed | aha |
| 17:48.45 | asg | InfraRed: dpkg -P <pkg> if you want to remove the config files also |
| 17:48.47 | InfraRed | so apt-get purge ? |
| 17:48.53 | InfraRed | thanks |
| 17:49.03 | InfraRed | goodie |
| 17:49.04 | asg | InfraRed: apt-get remove --purge ordinarily but once apt-get has removed a package, you have to use dpkg -P |
| 17:49.18 | TyreseJones | if I have a process running in the background, in this case, burning a CD, can i bring that process to the foreground of any terminal to see it's progress? |
| 17:49.19 | InfraRed | good stuff, many thanks :L) |
| 17:49.20 | green_earz | TyreseJones: here link for "Debian Reference" > you should find it help full > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html for the debian world |
| 17:49.23 | InfraRed | now to clean up the system |
| 17:49.26 | asg | TyreseJones: fg |
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| 17:49.57 | stew | arno-la-lune: you could always look at the source, if you want to cull the duplicates that would be easy as well |
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| 17:50.02 | TyreseJones | green_earz, Brilliant! Thanks, i'll bookmark that right now! |
| 17:50.10 | goccia | asg: it works fine :( |
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| 17:50.30 | asg | goccia: ah, last time I played with it, it would SEGV when I hit PGUP. |
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| 17:51.33 | goccia | asg: Installed: 0.10 |
| 17:51.55 | arno-la-lune | asg => yes i think, but it's really my last idead as i "misknow" C language. |
| 17:52.01 | arno-la-lune | s/idead/idea/ |
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| 17:52.41 | essobi_ | I've got some really wierd error when I try to do a apt-get install.. |
| 17:52.47 | MoonPrincess | I'd like your opinion... run stable or unstable on a production web server? |
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| 17:52.57 | asg | MoonPrincess: stable |
| 17:53.01 | stew | MoonPrincess: stable, are you crazy? |
| 17:53.05 | essobi_ | haha |
| 17:53.06 | essobi_ | :) |
| 17:53.07 | MoonPrincess | lol |
| 17:53.12 | elirips | hello. i have lots of modules that are loaded twice during boot-up, then i get this 'module already loaded'. i read on google that this is because of i have discover and hotplug installed. is it safe to remove discover and only use hotplug? |
| 17:53.31 | asg | elirips: it should be |
| 17:53.33 | stew | elirips: yes |
| 17:53.41 | green_earz | TyreseJones: all so its a good idear to get your self on the "debian-user" mailing list for debian. lot of use full info can be got from it and help |
| 17:53.45 | elirips | thanks people, so i'll remove discover. |
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| 17:53.53 | ^Willie^ | hi all |
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| 17:53.54 | MoonPrincess | I just thought maybe unstable would be better... for example, I'd be getting new software packages. |
| 17:54.02 | ^Willie^ | can someone help me with patching a kernel ??? |
| 17:54.10 | asg | MoonPrincess: new means untested |
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| 17:55.26 | stew | MoonPrincess: if its a production webserver, stable is the only sane choice, its the only one that definately gets security updates |
| 17:56.01 | ^Willie^ | hello ? |
| 17:56.02 | MoonPrincess | ok. |
| 17:56.16 | asg | ^Willie^: we need more context to answer your question |
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| 17:56.32 | ^Willie^ | ok simpel |
| 17:56.40 | Karnaugh | roawer |
| 17:56.43 | Draconicus | I've accidentally worked my way onto Sid with many packages, as some of you know. Although my base-files package and dpkg are still to-date with testing's versions, thankfully, unstable's server has been on my list of package sources for quite a while, and thusly I have a number of unstable packages. I'm somewhere between Etch and Sid, I guess. My question is this: Can I remove unstable's server from my list and wait for testi |
| 17:56.43 | Draconicus | ng to catch up? |
| 17:56.44 | ^Willie^ | i did download a kernel from www.kernel.org and a patch file for the kernel |
| 17:56.47 | Draconicus | Pardon the flood. |
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| 17:56.50 | Karnaugh | anyone managed to get gmailfs working ? |
| 17:56.56 | ^Willie^ | normal other dist i do patch -p1 patchfile.patch |
| 17:56.57 | InDeP | no |
| 17:57.01 | MoonPrincess | well how about if I wanted the latest and greatest version of MySQL, could I snag it from unstable and it'd work under stable? |
| 17:57.12 | stew | MoonPrincess: no, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:57.12 | ^Willie^ | then it start patching the kernel sources and i build a patched kernel |
| 17:57.27 | stew | MoonPrincess: but for something with as many dependencies as mysql it might not be such a simple backport |
| 17:57.28 | InDeP | i don't maneged to and i can't accesse to my mail ... |
| 17:57.40 | Karnaugh | i keep getting this error |
| 17:57.42 | Karnaugh | urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error (113, 'No route to host')> |
| 17:57.43 | ^Willie^ | with debian 10 minutes later still no text or any thing that looks like it do something |
| 17:57.45 | Karnaugh | rather odd |
| 17:57.53 | Karnaugh | I tried playing with its URL's that it uses |
| 17:58.02 | Karnaugh | think the problem could be SSL related or something |
| 17:58.05 | BobW | how can i see the modules loaded into the kernel for my 2 NIC cards? |
| 17:58.20 | Karnaugh | lsmod? |
| 17:58.24 | MoonPrincess | stable it is then. :) |
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| 17:59.03 | ^Willie^ | asg ?? |
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| 17:59.13 | asg | ^Willie^: try patch -p1 <patchfile |
| 17:59.31 | BobW | Karnaugh, lsmod works but there is no specific data in there that tells me what interface is associated with what driver |
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| 17:59.38 | newdebusr | I deleted my shadow file.... What and idiot I am. I tried to copy over passwd and shadow from my old server to my new server and it deleted my shadow file. Now I am locked out. I tried to boot in single user mode but don't know where to get a shadow file from. Plus its read-only on the root so I can't delete my password from passwd |
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| 17:59.58 | MoonPrincess | stew software under stble still gets updates (security only), just not new versions, correct? |
| 18:00.07 | stew | MoonPrincess: correct |
| 18:00.24 | ^Willie^ | [19:57:56] <^Willie^> normal other dist i do patch -p1 patchfile.patch |
| 18:00.24 | ^Willie^ | [19:58:42] <^Willie^> with debian 10 minutes later still no text or any thing that looks like it do something |
| 18:00.28 | ^Willie^ | asg |
| 18:00.29 | asg | ^Willie^: usually though, I put patches outside of /usr/src/linux (say in user src) and from /usr/src/linux do 'patch -p1 <../patchfile' |
| 18:00.42 | JohnnyST | newdebusr: Try knoppix it might be of some help in your case. |
| 18:00.48 | ^Willie^ | ok |
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| 18:01.01 | ^Willie^ | i go try |
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| 18:01.40 | asg | s#user src#/usr/src# (wtf was I thinking when I wrote that) |
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| 18:02.36 | stew | heh |
| 18:02.42 | igge | my debian install fails and says 'no partitionable media found' |
| 18:02.49 | igge | any ideas? |
| 18:02.57 | igge | (I do have a hard disk) |
| 18:03.07 | ^Willie^ | asg patch -p1 <../patchfile <<-- with the < |
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| 18:03.12 | stew | igge: is the bois recognizing the hard disk? |
| 18:03.12 | asg | igge: try using a 2.6 installer (linux26 at the boot: prompt) |
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| 18:03.39 | asg | ^Willie^: yes |
| 18:03.44 | ^Willie^ | thats new for me |
| 18:03.50 | ^Willie^ | i go try |
| 18:03.54 | igge | asg: aha ok thanks.. trying... |
| 18:04.00 | stew | ^Willie^: shoudln't be new |
| 18:04.08 | asg | ^Willie^: just the way I've always done it. It should just accept the filename. |
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| 18:04.39 | ^Willie^ | ahh it did work :p |
| 18:04.52 | ^Willie^ | damn read error :S |
| 18:04.56 | stew | does patch even accept a patchfile on the command line? |
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| 18:04.59 | ^Willie^ | sorry i did not look good in the manual |
| 18:05.01 | balony | what happens if you place sarge and sid both in sources.list ? |
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| 18:05.07 | balony | and do a dist-upgrade |
| 18:05.10 | stew | oh, it does, but only for a single file? |
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| 18:09.38 | ^Willie^ | hmmzz strange error try it again brb |
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| 18:10.02 | fryth | hello, can I get some help with my apt? |
| 18:10.21 | asg | fryth: can you tell us what's wrong with your apt? |
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| 18:10.43 | fryth | i installed an fglrx kernel module with a package, which depends on the ATI x driver |
| 18:10.53 | fryth | but i had installed the ATI driver with the ati script.. so... i used force.. |
| 18:11.16 | fryth | anyway, everything's working fine, it's just that, every time I try to use apt now, it whines about the fglrx being broken, and depending on flgrx-driver, which is unavailable |
| 18:11.49 | drac | fryth: so install fglrx-driver package ? |
| 18:12.08 | fryth | i could do that.. but everythings already working |
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| 18:12.16 | fryth | that will overwrite a bunch of files |
| 18:12.18 | DougFunnie | !downgrade |
| 18:12.18 | dpkg | downgrade is, like, not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 18:12.20 | fryth | wont it? |
| 18:12.23 | stew | BadOxygen: you would end up with a (probably broken) sid install |
| 18:12.25 | ralf | newraff is still at HP? |
| 18:12.26 | stew | uhh |
| 18:12.29 | stew | balony: ^^^ |
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| 18:12.55 | BadOxygen | stew , what? |
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| 18:13.02 | asg | ralf: don't think it got there yet |
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| 18:13.36 | stew | BadOxygen: sorry, i meant balony |
| 18:13.40 | fryth | actually, apt says that the package is 'uninstallable' |
| 18:13.50 | BadOxygen | ok |
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| 18:15.11 | asg | oh, Xorg has driver manpages, neat. |
| 18:15.31 | |sparr| | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main xbase-clients 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 |
| 18:15.32 | |sparr| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.32 | loocek | how check dependencies of installed package ? |
| 18:15.35 | |sparr| | this looks not good |
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| 18:15.44 | |sparr| | loocek: dpkg -i packagename |
| 18:15.45 | |sparr| | i think |
| 18:16.09 | asg | |sparr|: just try again |
| 18:16.16 | fryth | everything is already working on my system, i installed that driver with the ATI program, i just want apt to stop bugging me about it and install other things |
| 18:16.48 | fryth | although it does have super cow powers, so i should probably trust it implicitly.. |
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| 18:16.54 | asg | !moo |
| 18:16.54 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 18:16.57 | J_P | hi all |
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| 18:17.21 | J_P | people, anyone know one good tutorial for debian sarge +postfix+postfixadmin ? |
| 18:17.26 | stew | loocek: apt-cache depends pkgname will show dependencies of an installable package, but i dunno how to get the dependencies of an already installed package if it differs from the currently available package |
| 18:17.27 | |sparr| | asg: i did, and i tried update again |
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| 18:17.42 | asg | |sparr|: try a different mirror in your sources list then. |
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| 18:17.45 | ronino | hi |
| 18:17.48 | |sparr| | ok |
| 18:18.15 | ronino | is it possible to reinstall all packages currently installed? i did a resize of the root partition and somehow some files must have gotten lost |
| 18:18.24 | solomon | |sparr|, hey lemme know if you get one that works :) |
| 18:18.24 | asg | !reinstall |
| 18:18.24 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 18:19.25 | loocek | stew: yeah , but I want to know what are the dependencies of an already installed package indeed ... |
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| 18:19.33 | ronino | asg: thx |
| 18:19.51 | asg | loocek: apt-rdepends |
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| 18:20.31 | Seb | sup yall |
| 18:20.39 | loocek | asg: ok, I'll check |
| 18:20.42 | Seb | anyone know what "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus'" is supposed to mean ? |
| 18:20.45 | Seb | knows |
| 18:20.55 | asg | !b-e |
| 18:20.56 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 18:21.02 | asg | Seb: ^^ |
| 18:21.12 | Seb | asg: niiice |
| 18:21.16 | Seb | asg: thanks a lot |
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| 18:21.38 | gogo3or | hello 4 pm is 16? |
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| 18:21.49 | nuvox | anyone knows when security updates will be possible again? |
| 18:21.49 | Seb | yes |
| 18:21.50 | asg | gogo3or: yes |
| 18:21.51 | Seb | +12 |
| 18:22.04 | gogo3or | thanks |
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| 18:22.44 | asg | nuvox: when newraff and newsamosa make it to HP and are installed. |
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| 18:23.41 | nuvox | asg: any idea when this will happen? because there are urging remote exploitable problems in widely deployed stuff like clamav and apache2 |
| 18:23.49 | greycat | cc1plus would be the C++ part of the compiler suite. |
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| 18:24.53 | meowwuff | is it hard to merge 3 harddrives using software raid, and are there any comprehensive documents explaining how to do so.. |
| 18:24.54 | cis | Is there any alternative to xfree86? |
| 18:24.55 | mag_ | \quit |
| 18:25.00 | gamelux|qX | Hello, i have a system with 1 disk that contains : windows (first partition & active) and debian(second partition & not active) and i'm trying 2 make NTLDR or bootpart work but it still doesn't work.. I'm working with the how-to: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm . Has anybody any ideas why i can't boot up debian |
| 18:25.05 | asg | nuvox: today or tomorrow I expect (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg00013.html) keep an eye on that thread |
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| 18:25.38 | nuvox | asg: thanx, hope we don't get some freakin worm or something until then... |
| 18:25.45 | graeme | How much of a server-load is streaming music? How does one estimate this sort of thing? |
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| 18:26.29 | stew | cis: what version of debian do you run? |
| 18:26.34 | asg | nuvox: which apache2 vulnerability are you referring to? is it in the bts? |
| 18:26.42 | cis | stew: sid |
| 18:26.50 | nuvox | asg: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35081 |
| 18:26.53 | ^Willie^ | asg is there a reason for that libncurses5-dev is not in the default base system? |
| 18:26.53 | stew | cis: xorg is in sid |
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| 18:27.22 | wolf | hi. Is it possible to install a version 4 GCC on sarge without getting it the main CC? |
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| 18:27.46 | asg | ^Willie^: yes, compiling kernels is not a requirement. |
| 18:27.52 | ^Willie^ | ahh ok |
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| 18:28.09 | gogo3or | hello how can I block all mail from particular IP address thanks it's possible? |
| 18:28.10 | ^Willie^ | for it is cross compiling for sun cobalt raq (i386) servers :p |
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| 18:28.24 | wolf | I mean, I just want it as another compiler like gcc-3.3, gcc-3.4, gcc-2.95 |
| 18:28.57 | cis | stew: which is better: xfree86 or x.org? |
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| 18:29.11 | stew | !better |
| 18:29.11 | dpkg | [better] a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 18:29.13 | ^Willie^ | xorg is used in mutch distro`s atm |
| 18:29.14 | Lee__ | wolf: I think it uses a different binary format, so you might have to recompile your whole system. |
| 18:29.24 | drac | How do you tell CVS not to ask password (at all) when logging anonymous? It's causing 3 nasty pauses in middle of script. |
| 18:29.36 | asg | nuvox: is that in the Debian bts though? /msg dpkg bts |
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| 18:30.02 | stew | cis: when i tried xorg a little while back i couln't detect a difference, some claim its faster. xorg might have better support for *some* cards |
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| 18:30.10 | _bobbyz | is there any advantage in upgrading from discover1 to discover2, or is that something beter left alone? |
| 18:30.17 | stew | cis: xorg in debian is much more likely to be broken |
| 18:30.27 | wolf | Lee__: yes. The ABI changed but I just want it for stuff I compile myself. Should be possible to intstall gcc-4.x in parallel to gcc-3.x, shouldn't it? |
| 18:30.31 | stew | cis: (becuase it's only been in debian for a couple of weeks) |
| 18:30.39 | nuvox | asg: checking... |
| 18:30.41 | freq9 | where can I get the mysql developer package? |
| 18:30.52 | Lee__ | !tell freq9 about search |
| 18:30.59 | Lee__ | wolf: good luck! |
| 18:31.00 | cis | stew: ok. thx |
| 18:31.04 | cis | :) |
| 18:31.15 | wolf | Lee__: but how to do it? |
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| 18:31.38 | Lee__ | wolf: good luck! |
| 18:31.44 | freq9 | argh :! apt-cache search... i ever tested apt-get search -.- |
| 18:31.45 | solomon | what am i in for with debian on an athlon 64? |
| 18:31.59 | wolf | Lee__: is the a repository out there where I can get a gcc-4.x? |
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| 18:32.10 | Lee__ | I don't know. |
| 18:32.11 | napoleon_dynamit | guys |
| 18:32.11 | reamtS | what's new in gcc4 anyway? |
| 18:32.16 | napoleon_dynamit | help me pls. |
| 18:32.28 | drac | !confuse napoleon_dynamit |
| 18:32.29 | dpkg | No, what was your badger today, napoleon_dynamit? trousers of the dictatorship of belarus with extra herring |
| 18:32.30 | wolf | reamtS: optimizations :) |
| 18:32.38 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: if you have a question, just ask it already |
| 18:32.38 | napoleon_dynamit | how do i kill the ipw2200 module? (wireless NIC on Minipci) |
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| 18:32.53 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: rmmod ipw2200 |
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| 18:32.59 | napoleon_dynamit | it just hangs there |
| 18:33.04 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite stew |
| 18:33.05 | dpkg | stew: shut up ya bloody yank or i'll cut your acres off! |
| 18:33.06 | petobler | this is just a irssi test |
| 18:33.14 | stew | ? |
| 18:33.20 | napoleon_dynamit | stew- the terminal becomes unusable |
| 18:33.21 | drac | napoleon_dynamit: modprobe -f -r ipw2200 (at your own risk) |
| 18:33.26 | pipeline | reamtS: Great leaps forward in C++. As I don't use C++ at all, I could hardly care less about GCC 4.0 |
| 18:33.40 | napoleon_dynamit | drac, it is immune to -f too :) |
| 18:33.43 | pipeline | wolf: gcc 4.0 is in unstable, but you know what that means. |
| 18:33.45 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: if you want to prevent it from loading at boot /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:33.57 | reamtS | pipeline: hahahah |
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| 18:34.15 | Draconicus | Still no response to my question? |
| 18:34.18 | wolf | pipeline: it's the main cc in unstable iirc. Wouldn't that smash my sarge setup? |
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| 18:34.27 | pipeline | wolf: Yes. |
| 18:34.33 | wolf | pipeline: :( |
| 18:34.54 | chakri | i always get problem with package names to use whenever i want to install some package with apt-get, how to solve this problem |
| 18:34.54 | napoleon_dynamit | stew, when exactly at boot? doesn't ask me anything |
| 18:34.55 | pipeline | wolf: Well, of course you can have gcc 3.x and 4.0 installed side by side, but installing anything from unstable has a pretty good chance of fucking up your sarge installation atm :P |
| 18:35.08 | stew | !tell napoleon_dynamit about blacklist |
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| 18:35.23 | chakri | can any one help me regarding this problem |
| 18:35.29 | goccia | i'm using firefox from unstable and i'm happy |
| 18:35.41 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: use a rescue / live / install cd to boot your system, then edit the blacklist / modules files |
| 18:35.55 | napoleon_dynamit | :) |
| 18:36.12 | goccia | sarge firefox is very buggy |
| 18:36.19 | pipeline | goccia: firefox is always buggy. |
| 18:36.19 | stuarta | stew: what about single user mode? That's what it's there for.... |
| 18:36.20 | chakri | how to know the package names that we hav to use for a particular package with apt-get , or should we use only synaptic |
| 18:36.25 | Draconicus | I'm kind of somewhere between Etch and Sid at the moment. The unstable package server got into dpkg's source list a while back due to my own foolishness, so I now have a number of Sid binaries (which still word surprisingly well most of the time). The base-files package and dpkg are thankfully still at the release version that testing is using. Can I remove unstable's server from my list and wait for testing to catch up? |
| 18:36.25 | wolf | pipeline: maybe I should try this vserver stuff and install it in a virtual server... thanks for help |
| 18:36.34 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: what stuarta said |
| 18:36.34 | Draconicus | Let me know if that got cut off. |
| 18:36.36 | goccia | pipeline: yyah but sarge rocks : it won't break :) |
| 18:36.39 | chakri | i am new to debian way of installation |
| 18:36.39 | Whisky_ | my firefox takes ages to open :/ |
| 18:36.53 | goccia | sarge rulez |
| 18:37.00 | chakri | can any one help me regarding this problem |
| 18:37.04 | napoleon_dynamit | stew, i guess i need to mention that i'm currently running knoppix |
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| 18:37.12 | alien-fetus | can someone pls recommend some web-based audio streaming packages like a media player for the web ? |
| 18:37.27 | stew | napoleon_dynamit: ask #knoppix, you are in the wrong channel |
| 18:37.28 | goccia | i see this apt-get -s install xserver-xorg and i'm thinking ... |
| 18:37.31 | Draconicus | Out of curiosity, is Sarge a better stable than Woody was? I'm not interested in getting it, of course. |
| 18:37.35 | goccia | same for gcc4 |
| 18:37.36 | stew | chakri: what exactly is the problem you are having? |
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| 18:37.46 | Draconicus | !pls |
| 18:37.47 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 18:37.52 | Whisky_ | etch > sid ? |
| 18:38.05 | napoleon_dynamit | stew, no offence - they just didn't know :/ |
| 18:38.13 | stew | !they don't know |
| 18:38.13 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 18:38.15 | Slippy | DPKG I`M SORRY I AEEEH, DON`Y UNDERSTANNND YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!???????!!!!11111 |
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| 18:38.29 | chakri | stew: when i try to install java, it is telling that that package is not available, so how to know wich package name to use install java |
| 18:38.36 | stew | chakri: /msg dpkg install java |
| 18:38.39 | napoleon_dynamit | stew, i guess you have !answers to everything :D |
| 18:38.46 | reamtS | how do I 'dist-upgrade' without asking me those annoying question "Y/N/M/W [default= N]" |
| 18:38.58 | stew | chakri: debian cannot provide a java package becuase java is non-free |
| 18:39.04 | redtime | how can i set limit rate for apt-get? |
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| 18:39.09 | chakri | stew: oh |
| 18:39.10 | Draconicus | napoleon_dynamit: It's not quite that... people just ask the same questions too often. |
| 18:39.22 | pipeline | Draconicus: Use pinning to prevent unstable from overrunning your system. |
| 18:39.38 | Draconicus | pipeline: Explain, please? |
| 18:39.50 | pipeline | Draconicus: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 18:39.56 | Draconicus | Thanks |
| 18:39.58 | chakri | stew: can i send a PM to you |
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| 18:40.24 | stew | chakri: keep it here, i'm in and out, and if you ask questions here, others can help |
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| 18:41.12 | redtime | hmmm |
| 18:41.31 | chakri | I am using fedora core upto now. I want to come to debian. My frnd suggested ubuntu for me. How to know master debian way of working |
| 18:41.39 | Draconicus | This should help a lot. Thanks. |
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| 18:44.13 | FieldySnuts | !smite Phated |
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| 18:44.20 | Draconicus | pipeline: I can drop the priority down as low as I want to, right? |
| 18:44.43 | chakri | can any one help me regarding my previous question |
| 18:45.17 | Ronin | chakri: what question |
| 18:45.24 | chakri | I am using fedora core upto now. I want to come to debian. My frnd suggested ubuntu for me. How to know master debian way of working |
| 18:45.30 | stew | !faq |
| 18:45.31 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:45.58 | goccia | chakri: don't listen to your friend but have a go with sarge : very very easy and rewarding |
| 18:46.05 | Draconicus | It's a miracle! Somebody remembered to link the FAQ! Lives will be saved. |
| 18:46.12 | me_here | lol |
| 18:46.16 | Draconicus | Even I forgot about that. |
| 18:46.16 | chakri | sarge, what is that |
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| 18:46.20 | greycat | !sarge |
| 18:46.21 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 18:46.30 | me_here | chakri: it's the newest version of debian |
| 18:46.39 | Draconicus | Hmm.. |
| 18:46.42 | Draconicus | !woody |
| 18:46.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" |
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| 18:46.45 | Draconicus | (curiosity) |
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| 18:47.00 | Draconicus | ... |
| 18:47.01 | sepski | !buzz |
| 18:47.01 | dpkg | buzz is probably Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg) |
| 18:47.04 | solomon | how many cd's does the full sarge release fit on? |
| 18:47.04 | Draconicus | !ham |
| 18:47.04 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ham is oink oink, or if you mean the debian distribution, you want hamm. comes from badgers |
| 18:47.06 | chakri | will it use latest kernel ( > 2.10 |
| 18:47.12 | Draconicus | Oh. |
| 18:47.22 | me_here | takes 40 Gigs almost i heard |
| 18:47.23 | Draconicus | Um... |
| 18:47.24 | green_earz | chakri: bookmaik "Debian Reference" > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html |
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| 18:47.27 | Draconicus | !hamm |
| 18:47.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hamm is Debian 2.0, released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release), or released July 24, 1998 |
| 18:47.30 | Draconicus | That's the last one, I swear. |
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| 18:47.38 | me_here | to install everything in sarge |
| 18:47.42 | sepski | !botabuse |
| 18:47.43 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 18:47.56 | asg | me_here: many packages are mutually exclusive so you can't install everything in sarge |
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| 18:47.59 | Draconicus | Yes, yes I know, speski. I stopped. |
| 18:48.02 | sepski | me_here, you can't install eveything in sarge, becouse some things conflict |
| 18:48.05 | Seb | anyone having *2* batteries in his laptop ? I just put a second ne, and ACPI reports: "Battery 2: charged, 0%". Which is conflictual, right ? |
| 18:48.10 | me_here | asg: that's the next point :) |
| 18:48.20 | sepski | Draconicus, it was humorusly intended dont worry :P |
| 18:48.27 | asg | Seb: I have two in mine. |
| 18:48.41 | Seb | asg: so does ACPI reports capacities OK ? |
| 18:48.42 | Draconicus | Ah. |
| 18:48.45 | roler | what do I use to filter out certain ports on certain IPs on my box? iptables? I'm using debian with a 2.6.12 kernel |
| 18:48.45 | Draconicus | Alrighty then. :) |
| 18:48.49 | GheRivero | Hi! if i have two differente sources repositories, how can i specified how to download from one or another?¿ |
| 18:48.57 | pipeline | Draconicus: Not wise to drop the priority much. There are special values. I think you want to stay above 500 |
| 18:48.57 | asg | Seb: it does here but this is sid with a 2.6.10 debian kernel image. |
| 18:48.59 | greycat | GheRivero: man apt-get |
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| 18:50.41 | GheRivero | greycat, i forget to mention that are sources repositories, not binaries |
| 18:50.41 | asg | me_here: no, just created a dummy package with equivs that depends on all the stuff I like to have by default. Create a local repository, apt-get deb. |
| 18:51.06 | me_here | asg: oh coool, i never thought about that |
| 18:51.06 | test1 | How's the support for WLAN during a Debian netcd install? Can I find some info on what supported adapters or something similar? |
| 18:51.07 | Seb | asg: hmm, well, i inserted it like an hour ago (the 2nd one) and during all that tmie it reported the bogus msg I pasted first. Only after the first battery reached 100%, did the second one ACPI status start to make sense |
| 18:51.08 | Draconicus | pipeline: Alrighty. Thanks, though. Everyone else said I was screwed and would have to reinstall to have Etch again. This will basically give me Etch, since my core files are still testing release versions. I think I will call it "Sketchy"... |
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| 18:51.36 | roler | what do I use for a 2.6 kernel? ipchains or iptables? |
| 18:51.46 | sepski | roler, iptables |
| 18:51.48 | test1 | roler: iptables |
| 18:51.51 | asg | Seb: yes, it will charge the primary usually before messing with the secondary. This D600 though gets to 81% on the primary and then charges the secondary before finishing the primary. |
| 18:51.51 | roler | ooh |
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| 18:52.00 | sepski | roler, usualy with a frontend like shorewall, firehol or whatever |
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| 18:52.24 | Seb | asg: makes sense. Still, even though it waits for the 1st to charge the 2nd, "Charged, 0%" for the 2nd doesn't amke any sense :) |
| 18:52.29 | me_here | or tct |
| 18:52.53 | roler | sepski; wow thats exactly what I need. thanks |
| 18:53.10 | sepski | roler, np |
| 18:53.15 | asg | Seb: it probably just got confused, ACPI is still kinda flaky. |
| 18:53.23 | Seb | asg: yeah, my thought too :) |
| 18:53.30 | Seb | asg: thx for the tips anyway |
| 18:53.34 | asg | Seb: you're welcome |
| 18:53.41 | Seb | asg: it's been twice this morning, too :> |
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| 18:53.53 | asg | it's about pubtime here |
| 18:53.54 | nuvox | asg: I submitted the apache2 issue to bts |
| 18:53.58 | Seb | asg: you sure you don't have a question I might answer, so I can catch up a bit on the score ? :> |
| 18:54.04 | asg | nuvox: cool. |
| 18:54.07 | test1 | Noone knows about which WLAN adapters that are supported (if any) when installing Debian using the Net CD? |
| 18:54.07 | kay | haha |
| 18:54.11 | Seb | !beer asg |
| 18:54.45 | asg | Seb: :) I think I've only ever asked 2 or 3 questions in here over the last 4 years or so. |
| 18:54.50 | Zipp0 | how i can to download unrar program with all dependencys, just download it not install it ? |
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| 18:55.06 | Zipp0 | with apt/get command |
| 18:55.13 | asg | Zipp0: apt-get -d ... |
| 18:55.24 | adobar | anyone here know nomeata |
| 18:55.29 | adobar | ? |
| 18:55.30 | asg | !seen nometa |
| 18:55.31 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'nometa', asg |
| 18:55.39 | asg | !seen nomeata |
| 18:55.39 | dpkg | nomeata <jojo@nomeata.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 34d 22h 16m 41s ago, saying: 'FieldySnuts, valdyn: thx, tough both ugly solutions. Guess I have to go with the suid script.'. |
| 18:55.54 | FieldySnuts | wtf |
| 18:55.55 | asg | adobar: not been around here recently with that nic |
| 18:55.55 | JohnnyST | adobar yes I know him. |
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| 18:56.01 | FieldySnuts | !irritate asg |
| 18:56.02 | dpkg | asg: HELP ME!!! where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol lol |
| 18:56.04 | Seb | asg: heheh |
| 18:56.07 | adobar | asg: that's useful :) |
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| 18:56.25 | JohnnyST | adobar: He visited me after debconf. |
| 18:56.31 | Zipp0 | asg: apt-get -d unrar ? |
| 18:56.37 | asg | Zipp0: apt-get -d install unrar |
| 18:56.43 | adobar | ah, so he's completely away from computers at the mo, is he? |
| 18:56.54 | asg | !pubtime |
| 18:56.54 | dpkg | methinks pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 18:57.07 | JohnnyST | adobar: yes at the moment. |
| 18:57.19 | samuel | sup all |
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| 18:57.33 | adobar | JohnnyST: good to know! :) |
| 18:57.48 | Zipp0 | asg: unrar is already the newest version. |
| 18:57.49 | Zipp0 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 250 not upgraded. |
| 18:58.13 | goccia | there are two rar i think |
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| 18:58.50 | turing | hey all |
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| 18:59.00 | turing | problem: libpcre3-dev: Depends: libpcre3 (= 4.5-1.2) but 5.0-1.1 is to be installed |
| 18:59.12 | samuel | anyone have any suggestions about the combination of apps to use with bluetooth phones? (nokia) so multisync doesnt have anything for nokia phones... leaves gnokii... and some KDE apps, any other gnome apps i might use? for bluetooth transfer/pim managing? |
| 18:59.20 | turing | is there a way I can install a specific version of libpcre3 or libpcre3-dev? |
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| 18:59.32 | greycat | turing: wget, dpkg -i |
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| 18:59.40 | turing | egh, really? |
| 18:59.45 | turing | I can't do it through apt? |
| 18:59.52 | turing | (also this package appears broken) |
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| 18:59.59 | disorgoth | greets! |
| 19:00.04 | turing | it doesn't have the correct dependencies for -dev |
| 19:00.20 | totof | hy all ,i've a strange problem... after hard shutdown (ac disrupt) my system doesn't offer me the ch |
| 19:00.38 | kay | i'm having trouble looking up domain names as i mentioned earlier. upon further investigation ive found that i cannot find a route to the ip addresses. everything *seems* like it should be able to find at least my router. does anyone have any ideas why i might not be able to contact any machine on my network? |
| 19:00.48 | Draconicus | pipeline: Last thing: Creating /etc/apt/preferences will immediately make the file effective, correct? |
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| 19:01.02 | pipeline | Draconicus: No. |
| 19:01.09 | Draconicus | Oh? |
| 19:01.14 | pipeline | Draconicus: Apt isn't a daemon or anything. Nothing will happen until you use apt for something. |
| 19:01.16 | sepski | kay no route to any host even on your lan ? your missing your interface route, ie you have a typo in your interfaces file |
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| 19:01.35 | kay | sepski: where is that file? |
| 19:01.46 | disorgoth | guys, i do have a prob installing debian: i cannot see my pre-defined partitions, debian just lets me format the whole disk - why? |
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| 19:02.06 | totof | hy all ,i've a strange problem... after hard shutdown (ac disrupt) my system doesn't offer me the choice of all the keys, i can't choose capslock keys, and crtl alt fx dont do anything , someone knows something ? |
| 19:02.07 | Draconicus | pipeline: That's what I mean. This file will now be effective when I use apt, right? All I did was create it. Apt is preconfigured to use that file if it exists? |
| 19:02.16 | green_earz | kay: install etherconf and let it get your info from the router ie, dynamic |
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| 19:02.26 | sepski | kay :/etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:03.06 | Recursion | What do I need to do to update a machine that was previous testing Sarge to the release Sarge? |
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| 19:03.23 | disorgoth | A |
| 19:03.38 | me_here | Recursion: there is no real help in that case |
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| 19:03.58 | stew | Recursion: replace testing with sarge in /etc/apt/sources.list ; make sure you avhe a security line: /msg dpkg security ; apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade |
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| 19:04.58 | cookiemonsta | hola |
| 19:05.01 | cookiemonsta | im here.. can you find me |
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| 19:05.05 | kay | ok green_earz & sepski. gimme a min or two to check out both ur suggestions |
| 19:05.15 | green_earz | ok |
| 19:05.21 | ntfux | anyone gimme a hand with xf89config problems? |
| 19:05.27 | ntfux | anyone = can anyone |
| 19:05.37 | stew | !drxx ntfux |
| 19:05.37 | dpkg | ntfux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
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| 19:05.49 | pipeline | Draconicus: Yes. |
| 19:05.49 | ntfux | thanks ;) |
| 19:05.56 | Draconicus | Okay. |
| 19:06.01 | stew | ntfux: also /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 19:06.05 | Draconicus | Thanks for the help. Now, for a reward for helping me, a bit of humor I made with a screencap from the movie Hackers: www.glitchworld.com/pics/hackers.png |
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| 19:07.38 | green_earz | Draconicus: more mouse haaa |
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| 19:08.24 | spi3 | ps -ef |
| 19:08.27 | spi3 | doh! |
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| 19:09.03 | Draconicus | I'm assuming you get the screensaver joke. :P |
| 19:09.29 | Recursion | stew: thanks |
| 19:09.48 | totof | someone knows something about my prob : can't use capslock keys or combination of keys, this happend after hard shut (power cable unplug) |
| 19:10.05 | goccia | was it a screensaver ? :( |
| 19:10.06 | Draconicus | That whole movie... it was just sad.. Funny as hell, and had a great plot, but so inaccurate that it hurt... from all the side-pain causing laughter. |
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| 19:10.28 | Trek | totof- what caused you to do a hard shutdown |
| 19:10.31 | pose1don | How can i find out how a program is started at startup? As in, i have an ircd which i setup a couple years ago.. i can't remember how i set it up it starts on boot and doesnt load the config file IIRC i edited a startup script and called the ircd from there but i cant remember.. anyways to check? |
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| 19:10.42 | gamelux|qX | ok, i'm booting up the setup of debian sarge and wants 2 install the 2.6 kernel.. Everything goes well, setup is loading.. i can choose a language but the screen freezes. Any idea's what that could be?? |
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| 19:10.49 | totof | trek : my foot :) |
| 19:10.49 | ma3x | hi, every time i restart X I have to type 'xbindkeys' again and again |
| 19:10.51 | ma3x | why? |
| 19:10.53 | Draconicus | totof: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or whatever you have. It sounds like you messed up your XKB settings... |
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| 19:11.00 | emRick | is there a PDF password remover for Linux? |
| 19:11.02 | Trek | hehe |
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| 19:11.33 | Zipp0 | anyone know where i can found an iso cd with debian programs ? |
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| 19:11.57 | Ronin | iso cd with debian programs on it? you mean like those at debian.org? |
| 19:12.02 | me_here | ma3x: did you play with xkeycaps ? |
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| 19:12.06 | totof | Draconicus : not |
| 19:12.10 | Trek | http://www.linuxiso.org |
| 19:12.16 | totof | Draconicus : not sure, but i will try |
| 19:12.21 | carrus85 | any suggestions on how to get forcedeth to stop loading? fgrep -r forcedeth * can't find a refrence to it in the /etc directory, but it still loads upon boot. Any ideas? |
| 19:12.29 | ma3x | me_here no, why |
| 19:12.33 | sepski | !tell Zipp0 about d-i |
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| 19:13.07 | cddesjar | i just did ran "aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.11-1.i686" and i am trying to remember where my grub file is located so that i can edit the entry and add acpi support |
| 19:13.15 | cddesjar | could someone please remind me? |
| 19:13.30 | me_here | ma3x: it's one of the possible causes how you can alter the keymapping, so i assumed maybe you have altered them with xkeycaps |
| 19:13.37 | logyati | hi ppl |
| 19:13.37 | Draconicus | totof: Pay close attention to any questions about Caps Lock and such. There are features that make the Caps Lock key function as another 'Ctrl' key instead. |
| 19:13.39 | Eludias | cddesjar: /boot/gru/menu.lst |
| 19:13.54 | logyati | how i configure my network, i mean, the command |
| 19:14.02 | me_here | s/possible causes/possibilities/ |
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| 19:14.06 | ma3x | me_here: i want to type xbindkeys once and for all |
| 19:14.23 | ma3x | me_here : otherwise my multimedia keys won't work |
| 19:14.38 | ma3x | me_here : and everytime i login in KDE I have to type xbindkeys |
| 19:14.42 | ma3x | that's annoying |
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| 19:14.56 | ma3x | like you have to remember to pay your tax |
| 19:14.58 | pose1don | In debian how can i find out how a server is started at boot? |
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| 19:15.07 | cddesjar | how do i add acpi support upon booting in menu.lst? |
| 19:15.31 | Eludias | cddesjar: you mean, removing option 'acpi=off'? |
| 19:15.32 | me_here | ma3x: i could help if you were using xkeycaps sorry |
| 19:15.43 | cddesjar | i mean add the option acpi=on |
| 19:15.49 | me_here | ma3x: never used xbindkeys directly |
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| 19:16.30 | Eludias | cddesjar: ...then add the option acpi=on to line '# kopts=bladiebla' |
| 19:17.06 | green_earz | pose1don: "Debian Reference - Debian fundamentals" http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-boot should help |
| 19:17.11 | Eludias | ma3x: Add to ~/.kde/autostart |
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| 19:17.22 | cddesjar | kopts? I have title, root, kernel,initrd, savedefault, boot |
| 19:17.26 | cddesjar | which one should i add it to? |
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| 19:17.31 | pose1don | thanks green_earz |
| 19:17.47 | Eludias | cddesjar: kernel . |
| 19:18.26 | ma3x | Eludias : should i just type 'touch xbindkeys' in that directory |
| 19:18.34 | InitMass | what's the name of that app which shows statistics about in which dirs you have most MB and such? it's a kde app i think, quite colorful one |
| 19:18.39 | cddesjar | thanks! |
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| 19:19.09 | Seb | InitMass: it's special konqueror view IIRC |
| 19:19.24 | me_here | maybe offtopic, but anyone knows of an irc server to yahoo ? |
| 19:19.28 | InitMass | Seb, i'm not sure about that |
| 19:19.34 | Eludias | ma3x: No, create a file with commands to run, and make it executable. |
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| 19:19.50 | Seb | InitMass: i am. At least, there is a view like what you sya in konqueror. Maybe not the app you were looking for, but it's there. |
| 19:20.07 | green_earz | pose1don: np |
| 19:20.12 | Eludias | InitMass: du | sort -n | less |
| 19:20.39 | Seb | Eludias: don't underestimate the power and attractiveness of the GUI side |
| 19:20.57 | FinnTux | I just got a new Acer travelmat 4651 laptop... |
| 19:21.00 | InitMass | Seb, is that a plugin or somethign? what's it called? |
| 19:21.05 | FinnTux | wanna install debian of course... |
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| 19:21.13 | Seb | InitMass: bah, you can just select this paritcular view |
| 19:21.14 | Eludias | Seb: I got a lecture from the creator of the Window variant (secoya-tree), but he couldn't convince me :) |
| 19:21.17 | Seb | InitMass: ain't that many, try them all |
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| 19:21.24 | FinnTux | but installer doesn't find harddisk controller |
| 19:21.29 | FinnTux | ICH6 |
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| 19:21.40 | Seb | Eludias: heh, I know, I cannot be convinced either, but I'm thinking InitMass has already switched to the dark side ;) |
| 19:21.49 | FinnTux | sue 9.3 and kubuntu seem to work... |
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| 19:21.52 | FinnTux | suse* |
| 19:22.21 | Eludias | Seb: May the colours be with him, in that case ;) |
| 19:22.27 | Seb | FinnTux: you tried booting the 2.6 kernel ? |
| 19:22.31 | Seb | Eludias: hahahaha |
| 19:22.31 | FinnTux | yep |
| 19:22.45 | Seb | FinnTux: well suse & kubuntu "work" ,waht kernels do they use ? |
| 19:22.46 | FinnTux | linux26 acpi=off |
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| 19:23.24 | FinnTux | 2.6.11-something in suse, 2.6.10-5-386 ubuntu |
| 19:23.37 | green_earz | FinnTux: start a install with linux26 at the first prompt of the install cd, its will install the 2.6 kernel from the start |
| 19:23.40 | FinnTux | kubuntu actually |
| 19:23.47 | InitMass | Seb, maybe i have |
| 19:23.50 | Seb | FinnTux: well, if your controller isn't supported in 2.6.8, there ain't much you're gonna be able to do |
| 19:24.10 | FinnTux | I even tried latest debian installer |
| 19:24.13 | FinnTux | 20050721 |
| 19:24.21 | FinnTux | i had 2.6.11 IIRC |
| 19:24.29 | Seb | then something else is amiss probably |
| 19:24.36 | Seb | FinnTux: tried #debian-boot ? |
| 19:24.42 | FinnTux | nope |
| 19:24.46 | Seb | then do that |
| 19:25.01 | Seb | FinnTux: and don't be demanding over there, they have lots to do ;) |
| 19:25.06 | Seb | FinnTux: not like us in here, heh |
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| 19:25.10 | FinnTux | lol |
| 19:25.12 | FinnTux | ok, thanks |
| 19:25.15 | Seb | np |
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| 19:27.21 | cddesjar | how do i remove an old kernel? aptitude remove kernel-image 2.4.X |
| 19:27.21 | cddesjar | ? |
| 19:27.31 | Seb | yes |
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| 19:27.46 | ma3x | how do i run program minimized to system tray? |
| 19:27.51 | ma3x | with what switch? |
| 19:28.05 | Seb | ma3x: that would depend on the program, wouldn't it ? |
| 19:28.11 | cathy_ | cddesjar: if you have grub, make sure first that other kernels work fine |
| 19:28.18 | cddesjar | they all do |
| 19:28.25 | cathy_ | then rm |
| 19:28.34 | cathy_ | i mean, remove |
| 19:28.40 | simonrvn | and don't remove kernels so that you only have one, always have a known working one installed |
| 19:28.48 | goccia | remove essential |
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| 19:29.33 | under_R_run | is there an easy way to restore default device ownerships, i accidentally did chown -R user /dev instead of chown -R user ./dev |
| 19:29.39 | KerPlunk | cddesjar: It's probably best not to remove old kernels |
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| 19:29.56 | KerPlunk | They barely take up any space and if your new kernel fails it's nice to have a backup. |
| 19:30.08 | thesage | I can't get modprobe to load my ndiswrapper, I have the drivers installed and told it to write the config file for modprobe but it say theres no module found. |
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| 19:30.13 | goccia | cddesjar: dpkg --purge --force-remove-essential kernel-image.xxxx |
| 19:30.16 | simonrvn | KerPlunk: that depends on the arch, size |
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| 19:30.46 | simonrvn | goccia: why are counselling potentially dangerous things? |
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| 19:30.48 | cddesjar | ok |
| 19:30.50 | KerPlunk | simonrvn: true...but if it was your box would you keep the old kernel? |
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| 19:30.57 | Assid | heya |
| 19:31.03 | cathy_ | how much longer we should wait for sid to be up and running w/o breakage i wonder |
| 19:31.06 | simonrvn | i was only remarking on size, nothing else ;) |
| 19:31.14 | black13 | what is the timeline on getting xorg into sarge? |
| 19:31.15 | KerPlunk | cathy_: no breakage here |
| 19:31.16 | Assid | if a person didnt made the passwords md5 encyrpted.. how do i update to be md5'? |
| 19:31.18 | goccia | simonrvn: i remove kernels this way : is that wrong ? |
| 19:31.19 | roler | does anyone have a iptables howto? I am having a lot of trouble with the howto's on the net |
| 19:31.24 | KerPlunk | Stable as hell...I've had zero problems. |
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| 19:31.42 | cathy_ | KerPlunk: i mean update upgrade |
| 19:31.45 | sepski | roler, your writing your own firewall scripts ? |
| 19:31.47 | simonrvn | goccia: no need for the --force-remove-essentail; also you could break something |
| 19:31.53 | InitMass | Seb, Eludias, Filelight was the app i was looking for |
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| 19:32.57 | simonrvn | er, essential even |
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| 19:33.08 | roler | sepski; I dunno.. I have a weird situation. I have two servers and 4 IPs. For instance. One is a web server, and it also has ssh. I thought it would be cool to have the one Ip for the web server only, and all other services run off the other IP... |
| 19:33.34 | sepski | roler, that's not firewall related |
| 19:33.35 | goccia | simonrvn: i trust yoy but i guess you know thie is at least o old way : i'll update my brain :) |
| 19:33.42 | Assid | okay heres something weird. when they used the 3.1 disc to install.. it used to hang.. 3.0 worked fine |
| 19:33.50 | roler | sepski; ya but you can do it with iptables right? |
| 19:34.08 | simonrvn | goccia: it's ok. better be safe than sorry ;) |
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| 19:34.15 | sepski | roler, naw. you just make a eth0:1 instance in your interfaces file. filling it with the info for your second ip address |
| 19:34.30 | sepski | roler, then you on your services say what ip to bind to |
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| 19:34.55 | roler | sepski; on my servers? in my services where is that? |
| 19:35.12 | simonrvn | easy stuff. you could also use 'up' 'down' commands and stick in iproute commands |
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| 19:35.20 | sepski | roler, for your ssh server it would bi in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 19:35.22 | simonrvn | like auto eth0 |
| 19:35.33 | penguin | So if your computer is called on sambaserver on the Samba network, is that the name you use to make the computer a mailserver? |
| 19:35.35 | sepski | for your apache it would be in the apache config |
| 19:35.36 | roler | ohhoh oh |
| 19:35.51 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.58 | Assid | umm.. if the system has been installed without md5 passwords.. how do i make it work on md5 now? |
| 19:36.02 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.06 | sepski | roler, iptables is more about restricting access. to the ip addresses you already have assigned. |
| 19:36.14 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.31 | penguin | HOw to tell if computer is set up as a mail server? |
| 19:36.32 | madclicker | need help with debian running of 955 intel chipset SATA AHCI |
| 19:36.35 | Assid | sorry.. shadow |
| 19:36.46 | Assid | i want it to use shadow |
| 19:36.50 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.59 | simonrvn | and a matching down one |
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| 19:37.04 | solemnwarning | where are apache2 error pages kept by defualt? |
| 19:37.05 | sepski | roler, you can also allow all services tobind to all addresses. and drop on the addresses that you dont want that service to show on. But i would recomend doing it the proper way. |
| 19:37.12 | ma3x | hm, i just wrote autorun in .kde/Autostart |
| 19:37.15 | penguin | /var/log/apache2 |
| 19:37.23 | ma3x | and when i launched kde, the file opened in KWrite |
| 19:37.24 | solemnwarning | error pages |
| 19:37.26 | ma3x | that was silly |
| 19:37.27 | solemnwarning | not error log |
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| 19:37.34 | sepski | roler, on a linux you usualy dont need a firewall. i only use firewalls to protect insecure computers like windows lan's and windows servers |
| 19:37.41 | solemnwarning | like the page thats displayed when u get a 404 |
| 19:37.42 | black13 | can anyone explain to me how the pam and login work together |
| 19:37.58 | roler | sepski; i guess that's very true... |
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| 19:38.12 | roler | sepski; thanks a lot. :) I got it now. woop |
| 19:38.19 | Angle | hey guys anyone here use ncftp? i'm wondering how i just get a whole directory and its contents ? |
| 19:38.23 | simonrvn | solemnwarning: /usr/share/apache2 iirc |
| 19:38.31 | OctalTHOR | Angle : With lftp you can use the 'mirror' command.. |
| 19:38.38 | penguin | So how to know if your computer is set up as a mail server? |
| 19:38.46 | simonrvn | solemnwarning: FYI, dpkg -L packagename could've told you that. man dpkg |
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| 19:39.44 | Eludias | How do I create AMD64 binaries on x86 using Sarge-or-newer? I tried to follow http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/22/56, but 'gcc -m64' gives 'cc1: sorry, unimplemented: 64-bit mode not compiled in'. |
| 19:39.54 | colera | what arguments should i run mplayer with to be ale to make it full screen and keep the right aspect ratio>? |
| 19:39.58 | colera | ? |
| 19:40.03 | OctalTHOR | colera : -fs |
| 19:40.27 | OctalTHOR | colera : Although you might have other problems depending on which vo you're using. |
| 19:40.47 | david_ | hello everyone :D |
| 19:40.56 | sepski | colera, depending on what video output you use you might need -zoom also |
| 19:41.13 | colera | OctalTHOR: actually when i do -fs it runs fullsccreen but it stay's small |
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| 19:41.32 | sepski | colera, try -fs -zoom |
| 19:41.34 | OctalTHOR | colera : Refer to what sepski said. Your VO doesn't support hardware scaling, so you have to do it in software (slow). |
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| 19:41.41 | Angle | ahh it's get -R dir on ncftp :) |
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| 19:41.44 | simonrvn | Eludias: you need the proper gcc version, and one that supports 64bit (obviously) |
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| 19:41.58 | uk-male | for some strange reason firefox is ignoring my hosts file, and host.conf is hosts,bind |
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| 19:42.08 | david_ | As a linux n00b, i would like to know where i should save the programs i download |
| 19:42.20 | Eludias | simonrvn: Are 64-bit gccs prepackaged for Sarge? I just want to compile the kernel. |
| 19:42.21 | sepski | david_, in ~ |
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| 19:42.32 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: insult SCO stockholders |
| 19:42.33 | dpkg | SCO stockholders is nothing but a decayed ooze of impure snake bait |
| 19:42.48 | david_ | sepski, so if i download firefox, i shuld still save it to my home folder? |
| 19:42.50 | FieldySnuts | impure, decayed, snake bait... all accurate |
| 19:43.03 | OctalTHOR | uk-male : Firefox probably just uses gethostbyname() or something. |
| 19:43.09 | simonrvn | Eludias: i don't think there's such a gcc in sarge (in fact, i'm sure there isn't). in sid (etch too?) there is |
| 19:43.11 | sepski | david_, this is debian, we install firefox by typing aptitude install mozilla-firefox |
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| 19:43.36 | david_ | sepski, ok, lol, then i'll use counterstrike as my example, still in the home folder? |
| 19:43.37 | sepski | david_, we dont have to download it beforehand |
| 19:43.41 | black13 | is deadcat here |
| 19:43.42 | simonrvn | Eludias: you either move to etch, or build it yourself. also might want to look at the alioth amd64 project |
| 19:43.46 | black13 | deadcat? |
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| 19:43.51 | Eludias | simonrvn: now installing lib64gcc1. That one? |
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| 19:44.04 | Eludias | simonrvn: alioth seemed deserted last time I checked. |
| 19:44.04 | Downix | you know, getting Debian to work on a laptop isn't so easy |
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| 19:44.06 | yazan | hi all |
| 19:44.08 | sepski | david_, well if you download a lot, i imagine i'd make a downloaded directory under my home |
| 19:44.10 | simonrvn | !ifno gcc-4.0 |
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| 19:44.13 | drac | black13: last message from him was 12 hours ago. |
| 19:44.18 | simonrvn | !info gcc-4.0 |
| 19:44.20 | sepski | just to keep the clutter to a minimum |
| 19:44.21 | dpkg | gcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 483 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB |
| 19:44.23 | black13 | drac thanks |
| 19:44.28 | simonrvn | !info gcc-4.0 sarge |
| 19:44.39 | david_ | sepski, thanks, i just didn't know if it would go better in a bin or /usr/bin folder (i'm rather just learning what all these are for) |
| 19:44.49 | black13 | drac do you know anything about pam ? |
| 19:45.03 | simonrvn | 15:44 dpkg : Package 'gcc-4.0' does not exist. |
| 19:45.11 | sepski | david_, that's wherer things go when they are installed from packaagesm |
| 19:45.12 | drac | black13: something, but not enough to share those bits ;) |
| 19:45.17 | simonrvn | Eludias: ^^^^ |
| 19:45.35 | black13 | drac i trying to crack the manual but not have |
| 19:45.37 | david_ | sepski, i figured that bit out, but i didn't know if people save stuff there they have to manually install |
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| 19:45.42 | black13 | drac being coy |
| 19:45.51 | david_ | sepski, i just didnt wanna start a bad habit early on |
| 19:45.53 | sepski | david_, ususaly things not installed from packages should be placed in /usr/local/* |
| 19:45.56 | freebox | Somebody uses CDE (Common Desktop)? |
| 19:46.11 | sepski | to keep packages installed and source installed stuff separate |
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| 19:46.26 | david_ | good to know, thanks :D |
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| 19:46.46 | stuarta | freebox: don't you mean Crappy Desktop Environment :-) |
| 19:46.55 | david_ | let me just say that i'm really enjoying debian so far. I'm not sure i'll be albe to use another linux :D |
| 19:47.12 | sepski | david_, so are we. |
| 19:47.19 | cmihai | freebox: I use CDE |
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| 19:48.00 | Eludias | simonrvn: To etch or not to etch... *ponder* Difficult decision to make; I've got too much to break ;) |
| 19:48.07 | cmihai | Apart from FVWM, the only decent looking d.e. :) |
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| 19:48.33 | green_earz | david_: a very usefull link "Debian Reference " > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html#contents |
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| 19:49.20 | simonrvn | Eludias: well, consider this. a) what kind of machine is this? b) is this the machine that's going to get the built packages c) you'll need to have the right deps if the destination machine is say sarge d) any other shit i just forgot |
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| 19:49.40 | simonrvn | Eludias: kind, i mean dev, server, workstation, etc. |
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| 19:49.55 | goccia | david_: very very deep :) |
| 19:49.59 | cmihai | simonrvn: you forgot "call a friend", ask the audience and 50/50 |
| 19:50.10 | david_ | green_earz, thanks for the link :D |
| 19:50.12 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:50.15 | black13 | http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/pam/pam.external.pdf |
| 19:50.20 | green_earz | np |
| 19:50.29 | rixth | Has Sarge frozen yet? |
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| 19:50.38 | simonrvn | weeks and weeks ago |
| 19:50.38 | cddesjar | anyone know if you can install bittornado via aptitude? i tried to install it yesterday and mime-support comes along with and it told me that mime-support has a grave bug so i decided not to install it |
| 19:50.50 | simonrvn | it went stable weeks and weeks ago |
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| 19:51.06 | simonrvn | gotta try harder if you wanna troll ;) |
| 19:51.08 | Dragon-Eater | Yo guys im running a debian server and i recently reinstalled debian on it and stuff, everything is running, however FTP,The shell from outside (when i connect with putty to it) and webmin are extremely slow on responding, however myMYSQL and APACHE doesnt even lag the slightest at all.. i checked memory but thats far more then needed. |
| 19:51.16 | Eludias | simonrvn: I ran unstable many moons ago, and things broke once in a while. The machine I want to build a AMD64 kernel for is on my work, not here. I need this kernel for installing, since 2.6.8's Network driver (forcedeth methink) doesn't work. I'll just wait till it hits testing (where I'm now). |
| 19:51.19 | dos000 | anyone know how i can get rid of this annoying msg when i {re}start the mysql stating "Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background." |
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| 19:51.25 | rixth | simonrvn, According to the Debian reference, it goes Testing->Stable->Frozen |
| 19:51.51 | david_ | how do i search the whole computer for a file i just installed? I was browsing synaptic package and i found a cool science proggy, now how do i find it? |
| 19:51.57 | puff | Morning. |
| 19:51.58 | simonrvn | it's stable now... and frozen refers to testing, now stable |
| 19:51.59 | puff | Or afternoon. |
| 19:52.05 | cmihai | Dragon-Eater: is the hostname properly setup? |
| 19:52.06 | simonrvn | s/now/not/ |
| 19:52.13 | Dragon-Eater | cmihai its not running bind no |
| 19:52.13 | cmihai | fdqn |
| 19:52.17 | simonrvn | Eludias: ok |
| 19:52.19 | cmihai | I meant FQDN, sorry. |
| 19:52.22 | Dragon-Eater | why? is that needed? |
| 19:52.38 | david_ | ah, run application :D |
| 19:52.40 | david_ | cool beans |
| 19:52.44 | goccia | david_: find / -name foo -print |
| 19:52.47 | simonrvn | dos000: annoying maybe, but useful |
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| 19:53.41 | cmihai | Dragon-Eater: it's worth a shot. I found that it took a few minutes to connect to ssh, ftp, etc. without that. |
| 19:53.41 | david_ | goccia, i see to get alot of permisson denied, is that normal? |
| 19:53.46 | Eludias | david_: If you installed package xyz, do 'dpkg -L xyz' to get a listing of installed files. For binaries do then something like 'dpkg -L xyz | grep /bin' |
| 19:53.47 | green_earz | david_: dpkg -L package-name |
| 19:53.57 | goccia | david_: yes : su |
| 19:54.05 | Dragon-Eater | cmihai what should it be set to? |
| 19:54.15 | simonrvn | cmihai: hehe, i thought that said 'it's worth a snot' =) |
| 19:54.20 | dos000 | simonrvn, i tried googling it and i could not gather if it means db crashed,alive or whatever. |
| 19:55.06 | black13 | a pam "stack" means that when authenication is attempted the authenticatoin modules that are tried are stack on one another is that correcect |
| 19:55.06 | david_ | how do i stop a search before it's done? like an intreupt command? |
| 19:55.06 | juhov | david_: ctrl+c |
| 19:55.06 | simonrvn | dos000: it just means it's checking the tables that the server manages |
| 19:55.06 | david_ | so just like every thing else, lol |
| 19:55.06 | david_ | thans juhov |
| 19:55.06 | puff | so my brand-spanking new IBM thinkpad t43p showed up this morning... and I want to take the plunge and switch to using linux as my full-time OS. |
| 19:55.06 | cmihai | foo.bar.com :) |
| 19:55.11 | green_earz | david_: to list the packages that installed on the machine dpkg -l | more |
| 19:55.13 | simonrvn | black13: they're tried in order of appearance in the file |
| 19:55.20 | Dragon-Eater | cmihai look in ur priv.. it seems right to me |
| 19:55.29 | dos000 | simonrvn, evrytime ? means it keeps crashing or its from a previous crash ? |
| 19:55.38 | black13 | simonrvn from top to bottom |
| 19:55.50 | yazan | is there any kernel programmer hier |
| 19:55.52 | puff | In some sense this should be easy, since all I run locally most of the time (except when dealing with an excel or word or visio file that a colleague sends me) is firefox, emacs, cygwin shell, cygwin ssh and cygwin cvs. |
| 19:55.55 | david_ | cool, thanks everyone :D what a helpful channel this is. |
| 19:55.56 | simonrvn | black13: and the context determoines which kind of lookup is done, session, account, password, or auth |
| 19:56.07 | simonrvn | black13: determines rather |
| 19:56.07 | david_ | Now, my last question, how do i get my usb drive to be recognized? |
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| 19:56.18 | sepski | dos000, it just means it checks for it, not that there have been a crash, you want that cheking to occur so just ignore the message. |
| 19:56.29 | sepski | !tell david_ about usb-storage |
| 19:56.36 | simonrvn | black13: that's why you'll see things like session required pam_unix.so |
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| 19:56.38 | cmihai | Dragon-Eater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FQDN |
| 19:56.56 | black13 | simonrvn i still dont understand that "session" |
| 19:57.04 | simonrvn | black13: that means for the session, pam_unix.so success is required for it to succeed in opening a session |
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| 19:57.08 | david_ | lol,thanks sepski |
| 19:57.08 | Dragon-Eater | cmihai the problem is its localhosted behind a router SO it has no domainname... |
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| 19:57.30 | black13 | what is pam_unix.so ... other than a shared library |
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| 19:57.57 | simonrvn | black13: usually it succeeds, and just opens the session. but it only does that after the auth is successful (IIRC), apt-get install libpam-doc should give you the gory details |
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| 19:58.14 | goccia | puff: gnumeric opens nicely any excles |
| 19:58.14 | Dragon-Eater | so cmihai u think i should set: 192.168.1.253 servers.lan elite? |
| 19:58.17 | brothers | sorry, how do i uninstall all of kde? decided gnome only |
| 19:58.25 | simonrvn | black13: basic file-based module. /etc/passwd, etc. |
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| 19:58.34 | david_ | sepski, where do i find these modules? |
| 19:58.51 | black13 | simonrvn ... i went through that doc ... i am dense i need more than a man page |
| 19:58.58 | simonrvn | black13: there's pam_ldap, pam_krb5, pam_mkhomedir, etc. etc. |
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| 19:59.09 | black13 | simonrvn ... yeah i have seen those files |
| 19:59.26 | simonrvn | that doc just lists the basic sutff that comes with the default install |
| 19:59.31 | black13 | they must provide pam api accesss to there authentication schems |
| 19:59.39 | juhov | david_: under /lib/modules, although you don't need to. just 'modprobe' them |
| 20:00.17 | black13 | here is what the pdf i found says login --- pam api --- unix or kerberos or ldap but pam is like a middleware |
| 20:00.36 | sepski | david_, their included in your kernel, just modprobe modulename from wherever |
| 20:00.44 | simonrvn | black13: you are getting it, it seems to me =). at first it's a bit opaque, but when you get your faced shoved into it for some reason or another, you see that it's pretty damned good for what it does |
| 20:00.44 | green_earz | david_: you can use modconf to install modules, so apt-get install modconf |
| 20:01.09 | simonrvn | black13: yeh, it's an interface between various applications, and sub-sytems |
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| 20:01.19 | nicknicknick | did anyone ever get Macromedia Coldfusion Standard server to work on debian? |
| 20:01.34 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 20:01.48 | black13 | simonrvn ok no about the files in /etc/pam.d/ |
| 20:01.57 | ffed | should i do anything special, like adding options in kernel to make advantage of my Pentium 4 HT ? |
| 20:01.59 | simonrvn | black13: what about them? |
| 20:02.02 | black13 | such as /etc/pam.d/login |
| 20:02.02 | nicknicknick | (I don;t have it so I have no support contract or anything otherwaise I wouldn't be asking for your opinion, thanks!) |
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| 20:02.28 | black13 | they are ... hum i am trying to think of an analogue |
| 20:02.34 | OctalTHOR | Gone? |
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| 20:03.05 | david_ | green_earz, i got modconf, how do i use it? |
| 20:03.32 | david_ | ah, typing modconf got me somewhere |
| 20:03.33 | Dragon-Eater | cmihai? can u send me a example of how my hosts should look like? |
| 20:03.39 | simonrvn | black13: well, you may know that each service that supports pam should/may put a file in there, so you can configure it. some don't put a file, but still support pam. then what happens it'll fall through to the 'other' file |
| 20:03.41 | green_earz | david_: as su use the command modconf |
| 20:03.56 | newbie2 | hi all I am trying to install x windows from remote computer using "apt-get install x-window-system", but after the download necessary packet my ssh screen become blue and cant see any thing. I try to change my TERM enverimrnt from xterm to vt100 is doesnt work. What should I do ?? thanks for your helps |
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| 20:04.03 | simonrvn | so 'login' gets its pam shit conf |
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| 20:04.17 | simonrvn | 'ed via the /etc/pam.d/login file |
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| 20:04.33 | david_ | green_earz, i don't see usb-storage on there :( |
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| 20:05.03 | black13 | here is what the books says pam "led to partitioning of the entire set of interfaces in four areas of functionality" authentication account session password" you mentiond about 20 lines back |
| 20:05.04 | david_ | ah, |
| 20:05.05 | david_ | found it |
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| 20:05.36 | david_ | it says that usb-storage is installed |
| 20:05.41 | ffed | should i do anything special, like adding options in kernel to make advantage of my Pentium 4 HT ? |
| 20:05.43 | zOap | a nice app to handle and extract .bin files? |
| 20:05.47 | dos000 | is there a utility to concatenate multiple pdfs ? i want to go to a print store and save on per file fees. |
| 20:05.57 | simonrvn | black13: yup. that's the 4 |
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| 20:06.25 | puff | I've never installed a dual-boot linux machine; this thinkpad has some specialized hardware that I suspect I'll need to keep the OEM windows bundle around for. |
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| 20:06.26 | Whisky_ | ok i installed Debian on my dad's system but the problem is.........all fonts are really screwed up. Visibility isnt very good when looking at something/anything that's written :\ |
| 20:06.43 | zinx | install more fonts |
| 20:06.51 | green_earz | david_: sorry i am not formiluar with setting up usb-storage |
| 20:07.07 | black13 | in the file /etc/pam.d/login you have things like option or requied or somethign like that ... what this means is how to interpret the calls to functions provide by the pam module? |
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| 20:07.14 | simonrvn | the base fonts suck arse. except for very few |
| 20:07.17 | Whisky_ | zinx, That doesnt seem to be the problem, heh. |
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| 20:07.22 | _tD_ | is there any possibility to "recompile" a *.so file to its source code? thx |
| 20:07.34 | OctalTHOR | _tD_ : No. |
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| 20:07.39 | zinx | Whisky_: xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi are a great place to start |
| 20:07.41 | saabin | hello all |
| 20:07.47 | saabin | I need help a little |
| 20:07.50 | saabin | How I can add a second IP to a nic? and make the gateway for that ip default? |
| 20:07.56 | Whisky_ | zinx, ok and where do i choose what DPI fonts I want ? |
| 20:08.04 | OctalTHOR | saabin: ifconfig <iface> add <new addy> |
| 20:08.04 | Whisky_ | coz both of those packages are installed ... |
| 20:08.08 | KerPlunk | saabin: man ifconfig |
| 20:08.16 | _tD_ | OctalTHOR, ok, thx, then i must try something different |
| 20:08.21 | zinx | Whisky_: usually by providing the DisplaySize option in the x config |
| 20:08.27 | zinx | Whisky_: but there are other ways |
| 20:08.30 | KerPlunk | !tell saabin about ifconfig |
| 20:08.38 | Whisky_ | ermm k |
| 20:08.44 | OctalTHOR | saabin : And the second bit there would be like: route del default;route add default gw <new gateway> |
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| 20:08.52 | Whisky_ | brb |
| 20:09.07 | zinx | Whisky_: xdpyinfo | grep -i resolution will tell you what's currently being used |
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| 20:09.53 | simonrvn | black13: no, think of it as success/fail, and those keywords. e.g. are they required to succeed, optional success, etc. |
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| 20:10.00 | OctalTHOR | Is dpkg really supposed to contain misinformation? |
| 20:10.16 | black13 | simonrvn yes yes yes eureka yes |
| 20:10.18 | FieldySnuts | where is the misoformation |
| 20:10.19 | black13 | i get it |
| 20:10.28 | FieldySnuts | !confuse OctalTHOR |
| 20:10.28 | OctalTHOR | FieldySnuts : In the 'ifconfig' factoid. |
| 20:10.29 | dpkg | No, how is my mushroom tomorrow, OctalTHOR? shirts of the democracy of swaziland with extra cream |
| 20:10.29 | saabin | got it |
| 20:10.30 | black13 | thanks |
| 20:10.35 | simonrvn | good :) |
| 20:10.51 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: ifconfig? |
| 20:10.51 | dpkg | from memory, ifconfig is the tool you use in Debian to setup how your machine decides how to process "if" conditional statements. if you type `ifconfig all-true` everything will be true. someone also told me it has to viewing and configuring your networking interfaces... |
| 20:10.52 | OctalTHOR | ~lart FieldySnuts |
| 20:10.59 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
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| 20:11.07 | david_ | ok, still no luck w/ the usb drive |
| 20:11.14 | FieldySnuts | well i don't know about that first part but the last part is fine |
| 20:11.16 | zinx | dpkg: factinfo ifconfig |
| 20:11.16 | dpkg | ifconfig -- created by zbowling <~Administr@adsl-68-95-129-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net> at Fri Nov 5 01:55:02 2004 (263 days); it has been requested 23 times, last by FieldySnuts, 25s ago. |
| 20:11.19 | david_ | i think it's a bit over my head, anyone care to baby me thorugh it? |
| 20:11.22 | OctalTHOR | FieldySnuts : Yeah, I was referring to the first part. |
| 20:12.04 | WillR | been at this an hour now and cant get it... trying to make a php load up and browser keeps trying to download it.. i got the module installed... its loading...i uncommented thephp4 lines in httpd.conf what else could i be doing wrong?! |
| 20:12.10 | black13 | simonrvn the genesis of this is that on my embedded system i cant login when i try to enter the pasword after the enter i am not allows to type anything then it says "login incorrect" |
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| 20:12.31 | simonrvn | ouchie |
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| 20:12.45 | black13 | simonrvn i am not asking you to fix this i am just thinking out load |
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| 20:12.52 | quiet | WillR, can you make a phpinfo page, or does it try to download that too? |
| 20:12.57 | brice | hello guys |
| 20:13.07 | OctalTHOR | black13 : Check your /etc/apache/mime.types |
| 20:13.13 | OctalTHOR | black13: Wrong person. |
| 20:13.20 | black13 | no problem |
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| 20:13.25 | OctalTHOR | WillR: Check your /etc/apache/mime.types |
| 20:13.46 | brice | does someone try to connect on undernet?? I can't get it! |
| 20:13.47 | green_earz | david_: if you can not get the help here, have google or put your self on the mail list "debian-user" |
| 20:13.56 | simonrvn | black13: i know, i'm commenting on the troubles |
| 20:14.07 | OctalTHOR | brice : What does that have to do with Debian? |
| 20:14.11 | kantai | anyone know if alsa recently broke in unstable or its just my config? |
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| 20:14.20 | black13 | simonrvn troubles |
| 20:14.25 | brice | ok nothing but... where can I ask that? |
| 20:14.27 | quiet | kantai, not mine |
| 20:14.29 | brice | sorry |
| 20:14.34 | OctalTHOR | brice: Ask google. |
| 20:14.37 | david_ | thanks green_earz |
| 20:14.43 | simonrvn | black13: well, i won't be around later, but i'm sure you can ask here and get your stuff resolved |
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| 20:14.48 | WillR | (OctalTHOR): and ook for? application/x-httpd-php ?? isnt in there |
| 20:14.49 | kantai | quiet, well that's disheartening |
| 20:14.55 | quiet | kantai, what's the issue? |
| 20:14.58 | brice | OctalTHOR: thanks.. |
| 20:15.02 | OctalTHOR | WillR: application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php |
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| 20:15.32 | black13 | simonrvn you have been very helpful |
| 20:15.33 | kantai | quiet: I'm not really sure actually, alsa says it can't file the file |
| 20:15.45 | OctalTHOR | kantai : What file? |
| 20:15.47 | simonrvn | black13: np |
| 20:15.48 | kantai | the device file that is |
| 20:15.51 | green_earz | david_: have search of the mailing list archives > http://lists.debian.org/search.html |
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| 20:15.59 | OctalTHOR | kantai : Is the dev node there? |
| 20:16.07 | kantai | yup |
| 20:16.14 | kantai | /dev/dsp if thats what you mean |
| 20:16.15 | OctalTHOR | kantai : Can you access it? |
| 20:16.28 | kantai | Yea, OSS works |
| 20:16.28 | m4lu6 | Wow. |
| 20:16.32 | stuarta | pusling is going to have a very sore head. |
| 20:16.35 | m4lu6 | the documentation for ipopd... really good. |
| 20:16.36 | m4lu6 | ugh |
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| 20:17.03 | kantai | I think that that error though is just a smokescreen of sorts though, because I get another error from dmix |
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| 20:17.21 | Whisky_ | zinx, back....96*96 dots per inch....It's a 17 inch LCD monitor :s |
| 20:17.21 | ma3x | hello |
| 20:17.28 | ma3x | can anybody click on txt file and tell me its descripttion |
| 20:17.36 | ma3x | i've just modified it accidentaly |
| 20:17.37 | WillR | (OctalTHOR): its there |
| 20:17.55 | OctalTHOR | WillR: And you've restarted apache after fscking with its config files, right? |
| 20:18.00 | ma3x | and the filename parameters please |
| 20:18.03 | kantai | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802 "unable to open slave" |
| 20:18.12 | ma3x | Hello, anybody please right click on .txt file and configure |
| 20:18.15 | kantai | anyone got any idea what that means? |
| 20:18.23 | WillR | yeapp.. ive tried rebootin the pc a few tiems too :S |
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| 20:18.25 | OctalTHOR | ~tell ma3x about repeat |
| 20:18.36 | simonrvn | @confuse ma3x |
| 20:18.36 | ravenbird | yes those are their hamster tomorrow ? |
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| 20:18.45 | simonrvn | eh |
| 20:19.04 | pusling | stuarta: are you bringing the first aid kit ? ;) |
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| 20:19.29 | OctalTHOR | WillR: Someone asked earlier, and I didn't see an answer: If you put just '<?phpinfo();?>' in a file, does it try to download that, oo? |
| 20:19.31 | OctalTHOR | *too |
| 20:19.43 | WillR | (OctalTHOR): unless theres a deb pkg that i left out.. i think it should just work,, |
| 20:19.44 | Whisky_ | simonrvn, I need help changing my font dpi....it's 96*96 DPI on a 17inch LCD and the fonts are really sucky.....The icons I have on desktop have some shadows under them too.... |
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| 20:20.05 | Blissex | Whisky_: that's not easy or nice to do... |
| 20:20.08 | Kbyte | Does Anyone use a aiptek tablet? I've some problems with gimp and aiptek xorg driver |
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| 20:20.17 | zinx | Whisky_: o_O |
| 20:20.21 | Blissex | Whisky_: and the shadows are a feature. |
| 20:20.21 | Whisky_ | Blissex, but the fonts suck :S |
| 20:20.32 | Blissex | Whisky_: that's another matter :-) |
| 20:20.36 | Whisky_ | Blissex, Not the feature, the lame shadows (occuring due to lame fonts) |
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| 20:20.53 | Blissex | Whisky_: and the ''sucky fonts'' can be at least partly cured. |
| 20:21.04 | Whisky_ | Blissex, not actually shadows, but doubled fonts i'd say. |
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| 20:21.24 | Blissex | Whisky_: first of all, give some context (like which ''Debian'', which X servers, which fonts, which desktop environment, how geeky you are) |
| 20:21.27 | Whisky_ | Blissex, I want a 100% cure :p I did try changing the fonts and increasing the size (Which did help a bit) |
| 20:21.45 | OctalTHOR | Whisky_ : Which font server are you using? |
| 20:22.02 | Blissex | Whisky_: and consider reading this in the meantime: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html |
| 20:22.13 | Schiz0 | I'm having a problem installing java. And yes, I already /msg dpkg install java'ed..when I fakeroot make-jpkg jre.xxxx.bin, I get a error saying: No matching plugin was found. |
| 20:22.19 | Whisky_ | Blissex, Sarge, xfree86, the same fonts which come with the default installation (Simple something right now, size 12), KDE 3.3.2 |
| 20:22.24 | Blissex | Whisky_: the bad news is that GNU/Linux fonts are a very very sucky issue. |
| 20:22.31 | Whisky_ | OctalTHOR, I dont have a clue =) |
| 20:22.34 | Whisky_ | oops |
| 20:22.40 | wing|work | which package provides the php4 support for caudium now? (in unstable) |
| 20:22.45 | Blissex | Whisky_: OK, basically it is mostly defaults. Good. |
| 20:22.57 | Blissex | Whisky_: do you like anti-aliasing or not? |
| 20:22.57 | Whisky_ | i just installed the system. |
| 20:23.18 | Whisky_ | Blissex, I dont have a clue what that was although i did enable it and then disabled it agan =p |
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| 20:23.20 | Whisky_ | again* |
| 20:23.23 | Blissex | Whisky_: I don't like anti-aliasing, so I choose different fonts from most people. |
| 20:23.29 | simonrvn | Whisky_: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc. change 100 for 75 |
| 20:23.43 | simonrvn | that'll make everything smaller |
| 20:23.44 | Blissex | Whisky_: AA makes fonts less contrasty to hide the blockyness. |
| 20:23.51 | david_ | i have firefox in a folder, if i double click the firefox icon it will open. HOw do i do this from the terminal? |
| 20:24.07 | Whisky_ | ahann...hang let me do what simonrvn said....going to the other room.............. |
| 20:24.12 | sepski | !folder |
| 20:24.12 | dpkg | [folder] a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 20:24.17 | Blissex | Whisky_: while that means fonts look a bit bolder and neater, they are also fuzzier and can annoy people. |
| 20:24.27 | kantai | david_: have you tried "firefox" |
| 20:24.28 | simonrvn | david_: stick a symlink to the wrapper script in one of the bin dirs in your $PATH |
| 20:24.37 | Blissex | simonrvn: that's not a very nice idea. He does have a 96DPI screen. |
| 20:24.44 | simonrvn | david_: it should already be there |
| 20:24.59 | simonrvn | Blissex: 17" is ~96 dpi? |
| 20:25.16 | simonrvn | Whisky_: ignore me, sorry |
| 20:25.25 | Blissex | simonrvn: on an LCD yes, it is standard. |
| 20:25.35 | simonrvn | ok, thanks |
| 20:25.36 | david_ | simonrvn, how do i do that? |
| 20:25.42 | Whisky_ | simonrvn, i did it :| |
| 20:25.45 | david_ | kantai, i alrday tried that |
| 20:25.46 | Whisky_ | Blissex, :S |
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| 20:26.05 | ma3x | how do i make .txt file always open with kwrite? |
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| 20:26.16 | Whisky_ | let me change it back to 100, brb |
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| 20:26.33 | Blissex | simonrvn: the msot irritanting thing about DPI is that almost all 15" LCDs are 85DPI, and that does not fit well either the 75 or 100 DPI donts. |
| 20:26.34 | simonrvn | Whisky_: you can always change it back... |
| 20:26.46 | simonrvn | Blissex: i see |
| 20:26.56 | ma3x | simonrvn: What is the exact description of .txt file? |
| 20:27.00 | david_ | it says i don't have permission to write to bin folder |
| 20:27.04 | ma3x | when you check in the properties |
| 20:27.14 | Blissex | Whisky_: double checking: is your 17" LCD in 1280x1024 mode? |
| 20:27.21 | simonrvn | ma3x: *blink*. what are you talking about? |
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| 20:27.43 | ma3x | simonrvn : in KDE, right click on a text file, enter the properties -> configuration |
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| 20:27.54 | ma3x | and then check the field Desription |
| 20:27.55 | Whisky_ | Blissex, right now, yes. but it was the same on 1024*768 |
| 20:27.57 | Blissex | Whisky_: you can check with 'xdpyinfo | egrep "dimens|resol"' |
| 20:28.06 | Whisky_ | ermm ok wait |
| 20:28.10 | simonrvn | ma3x: and... what is it you want to do? |
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| 20:28.13 | ma3x | simonrvn : i've accidently deleted the "assosication" of all text files |
| 20:28.22 | Blissex | Whisky_: OK, 1280x1024 is exactly 96DPI on virtually all 17" LCDs, thats fine. |
| 20:28.25 | ma3x | i want to enter that info again |
| 20:28.40 | Blissex | Whisky_: now, the bad news: without AA the default fonts look like crap. |
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| 20:29.04 | Whisky_ | 1280*1024 and 96*96 |
| 20:29.06 | simonrvn | ma3x: mime types you mean. what did you do? what did you do that to? details, i'm not there, i can't see what you're looking at |
| 20:29.18 | Blissex | Whisky_: so your choices are either to enable AA or better to install better fonts. |
| 20:29.19 | Whisky_ | :S |
| 20:29.22 | ma3x | simonrvn mime types yes |
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| 20:29.30 | ma3x | how to associate .txt file to open always with KWrite |
| 20:29.36 | Whisky_ | ok ill try anti-aliasing |
| 20:29.37 | Whisky_ | brb |
| 20:29.38 | Blissex | Whisky_: first of all, type 'apt-get install msttcorefonts' just in case... |
| 20:29.38 | ma3x | and what's the description of a txt file |
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| 20:29.43 | ma3x | is it "Text Document" or what? |
| 20:30.26 | simonrvn | ma3x: oh, um, i don't have kde installed... i think that's selectable, via right click > open with ... |
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| 20:31.04 | Schiz0 | I get the error saying: 'No matching plugin was found.' when trying to run 'fakeroot make-jpkg jre-xxxx.bin' to convert the bin to a deb to install java. Any idea why? |
| 20:31.14 | Blissex | ma3x: this is really a question for #KDE, but the better idea is to select a new 'editor component' |
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| 20:31.28 | Blissex | ma3x: and that should be Kate, as KWrite is a bit primitive. |
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| 20:32.02 | klync | hey all. a quick google search doesn't reveal much about the preferred way to setup ximian's exchange connector in debian... any advice / pointers ? is it in contrib? |
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| 20:32.36 | Blissex | ma3x: so have a look at 'Control center:KDE Components:File associations' |
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| 20:33.21 | Blissex | Whisky_: you here? |
| 20:33.40 | harleyg | i have setup my debootstrap, and its kernel etc, but on startup it freezes after it has done starting blah..... |
| 20:33.49 | harleyg | for exmaple starting cron.... |
| 20:34.40 | ma3x | okay thanks Blissex |
| 20:34.45 | ma3x | nice nick anyway! |
| 20:34.49 | ma3x | simonrvn : thanks 2! |
| 20:34.59 | klync | ok, the pkg is in main, it's just called "evolution-exchange" - I was searching for ximian |
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| 20:36.34 | Whisky_ | Blissex, sorry was enabling AA, the system's in another room. Ok the fonts arent really bad now but the shadow kinds things under the icon names on desktop are ewwwwwww |
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| 20:36.52 | Blissex | Whisky_: the shadows are a feature... |
| 20:36.56 | brothers | 'apt-get remove kde' only wants to remove the meta package |
| 20:37.00 | roler | how can I bind the proftpd server to a certain interface? Or does it not support it? |
| 20:37.05 | Blissex | Whisky_: however let's fix the fonts more. |
| 20:37.13 | Whisky_ | Blissex, k |
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| 20:37.19 | Blissex | Whisky_: and don't jump to conclusion s as to AA or not. |
| 20:37.38 | M_Morden | blis? |
| 20:37.50 | Whisky_ | k :| |
| 20:37.53 | Blissex | Whisky_: BTW, with AA, I find that enabling RGB subpixels is not good. In case you did |
| 20:38.04 | Whisky_ | nah, didnt enable em |
| 20:38.10 | harleyg | i have setup my debootstrap, and its kernel etc, but on startup it freezes after it has done starting blah..... |
| 20:38.11 | harleyg | for exmaple starting cron.... |
| 20:38.15 | harleyg | any ideas? |
| 20:38.17 | Blissex | Whisky_: so, do 'apt-get install msttcorefonts' |
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| 20:38.24 | Blissex | Whisky_: and also |
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| 20:39.11 | Blissex | Whisky_: try with AA disabled, and switch fonts from 'sans' to 'helvetica' and from 'monospace' to 'courier' |
| 20:39.11 | zOap | I try to install the java package by building it to a .deb with: fakeroot make-jpkg jre_blabla.bin. But i get error : fakeroot: make-jpkg : command not found... What did I do wrong? |
| 20:39.22 | Whisky_ | did i mention the system's still not connected to the internet? I have a US-Robotics 56k Fax External "USB" modem....couldnt get it to work on RedHat with 2.4.x |
| 20:39.31 | greycat | zOap: helps if you install the thing you plan to use. |
| 20:39.38 | Yaroon | Any channels about spamassassin? I'd like to try sa-learn... |
| 20:39.40 | Blissex | Whisky_: because 'helvetica' and 'courier' look really sharp without AA. |
| 20:39.41 | Justin | !+find make-jpkg |
| 20:39.43 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:39.49 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'make-jpkg' (1): (/usr/bin/make-jpkg) in contrib/misc/java-package. |
| 20:39.57 | Blissex | Whisky_: you can probably get the modem to work in 2 minutes with 'kppp' |
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| 20:40.03 | Yaroon | But I don't know how to start with it. you need a large file full of mail. |
| 20:40.03 | Blissex | Whisky_: you can probably get the modem to work in 2 minutes with 'kppp' or 'wvdial' |
| 20:40.04 | farphadet | hello all |
| 20:40.14 | Whisky_ | Blissex, ermm ok...brb again. |
| 20:40.14 | farphadet | sorry or my bad encglish |
| 20:40.32 | Whisky_ | Blissex, USB modem, ok? |
| 20:40.33 | farphadet | i try to install debian and lvm with sarge netinstall |
| 20:40.47 | Blissex | Whisky_: USB modem a bit more problems, mostly they are soft modems. |
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| 20:40.51 | streuner_ | farphadet: did you read ig? |
| 20:40.56 | farphadet | ig? |
| 20:41.00 | streuner_ | dpkg, ig |
| 20:41.00 | dpkg | it has been said that ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 20:41.02 | Whisky_ | Blissex, this is a US Robotics external |
| 20:41.09 | Blissex | Whisky_: can you download a file on this host and copy it someway to the Debian one? |
| 20:41.15 | zOap | greycat, ok, so what do I need to install? I installed the java-common, fakeroot, build-essential, and I downloaded the latest .bin from sun... |
| 20:41.17 | Whisky_ | sure |
| 20:41.18 | Ungy | ok I got a wierd problem if I LS a direcotry I see files if I ls -la files I get errors stating no such file or dirrectory and Permission denied |
| 20:41.30 | Ungy | I need to figure out how to remove these files |
| 20:41.34 | Blissex | Whisky_: it might well work, but many external USB modems are softmodems. Tragically. |
| 20:41.37 | Whisky_ | this one's also debian =) |
| 20:41.41 | Whisky_ | k |
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| 20:41.59 | Downix | I have several serial modems still |
| 20:42.18 | roler | what ftp server will allow binding to an interface? |
| 20:42.24 | Blissex | Whisky_: then if this one is Debian, do 'apt-get install msttcorefonts' here too, as it is a damn useful package. |
| 20:42.27 | Downix | plan on selling some of them this week |
| 20:42.37 | Whisky_ | Blissex, i did that just about an hour ago =) |
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| 20:42.58 | Blissex | Whisky_: then copy '/var/cache/apt/archive/mstt*' to the other PC. |
| 20:43.17 | Blissex | Whisky_: then copy '/var/cache/apt/archive/mstt*' to the other PC, e.g. to '/tmp/' on the other PC. |
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| 20:43.26 | Whisky_ | ermm ok |
| 20:43.38 | Blissex | Whisky_: then after copying, on the other PC do 'dpkg --install /tmp/mstt*' |
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| 20:43.52 | colmore | newb question: what do I do with a kernel module .ko file (i'm trying to get open gl working on my intel graphics card) |
| 20:44.02 | Whisky_ | Blissex, it isnt there :| |
| 20:44.16 | farphadet | are you sure that lvm is operationnal with installer ? |
| 20:44.21 | Ungy | how do I remove a file that shows on ls but on ls -la doesn't exist |
| 20:44.32 | Blissex | Whisky_: then redownload it with the 'apt-get -d install msttcorefonts' command |
| 20:44.40 | Dragon-Eater | Yo guys,whats ur favorite fabricator of hard drives? |
| 20:44.46 | Whisky_ | Blissex, All fonts downloaded and installed. |
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| 20:44.53 | Ungy | !poll |
| 20:44.53 | Whisky_ | i still have that terminal window open :/ |
| 20:44.53 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 20:44.55 | Dragon-Eater | Western Digital / Maxtor / Hitachi / Samsung |
| 20:44.57 | Downix | Samsung is my preferred hard drive manufacturer |
| 20:45.00 | Whisky_ | maybe they went somewhere else ? |
| 20:45.05 | Blissex | Whisky_: then first remove it and reinstall it again. |
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| 20:45.19 | Whisky_ | ermm k :| |
| 20:45.21 | wing|work | which package provides the php4 support for caudium now? (in unstable) |
| 20:45.25 | epictetus | colmore: you insmod it |
| 20:45.39 | Whisky_ | Blissex, i really want to get rid of those "shadows" on the other system :S |
| 20:45.40 | Downix | how much are external 28.8 and 33.6 modems worth nowadays? |
| 20:45.48 | simonrvn | s/insmod/modprobe/ |
| 20:45.48 | epictetus | downix: $1 |
| 20:45.52 | Blissex | Whisky_: later... |
| 20:46.02 | Dragon-Eater | Yo guys,whats ur favorite fabricator of hard drives? (A: Western Digital, B: Maxtor, C: Hitachi, D: Samsung, E: Other. if so specify.) |
| 20:46.04 | epictetus | maybe $.50 |
| 20:46.09 | Whisky_ | k...thanks alot ! |
| 20:46.12 | doub | Dragon-Eater: the problem is that, when asking such a question, you'll have all the possible answers with differing and often conflicting rationales, thus you won't go anywhere meaningful |
| 20:46.19 | Blissex | Whisky_: however the shadows are almost certainly a feature of your current desktop theme. |
| 20:46.20 | Whisky_ | brb then.. |
| 20:46.22 | simonrvn | Dragon-Eater: #polls is that > way |
| 20:46.22 | zinx | Downix: i only charge $1 to recycle them |
| 20:46.26 | Downix | epictetus: for external, non-winmodems? |
| 20:46.30 | Whisky_ | its just the default one :/ |
| 20:46.34 | Dragon-Eater | doub i think its a decent question to ask on #debian channel |
| 20:46.36 | epictetus | you can probably buy a box of 100 of them for 10 bucks on ebay |
| 20:46.43 | Whisky_ | oh well...back to business |
| 20:46.45 | Whisky_ | brb |
| 20:46.55 | tdonahue | Dragon-Eater: it used to be Seagate, until they sent me 2 dead SATA drives just last week |
| 20:47.06 | Dragon-Eater | hahah u poor tdonahue :p |
| 20:47.11 | colmore | thanks, epictetus |
| 20:47.13 | Ungy | what si command to check for curropt file system? |
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| 20:47.24 | streuner_ | farphadet: lvmcfg |
| 20:47.27 | zinx | Ungy: fsck, use it wisely |
| 20:47.27 | pureone | badblocks ? |
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| 20:47.33 | epictetus | Downix: actually if you check the ebay prices, it looks like a nice external 56k can bring 5-10$ |
| 20:47.41 | epictetus | wait, maybe not |
| 20:47.51 | epictetus | shit, yeah, none of those have any bids |
| 20:47.58 | Ungy | zinx well my postfix spool is jacked and I can't remove files so I dunno what else to do |
| 20:48.09 | crystalremo | im trying to compile this program on my debian box and i keep getting "reserve.o(.text+0x34ed): In function `login': : undefined reference to `dbm_fetch'" the program uses ndbm.h which ive linked to the gdbm-ndbm.h file. anyone know why this comes up? |
| 20:48.10 | streuner_ | farphadet: search for 'lvmcfg' (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.fr) so my answer is yes ;-) |
| 20:48.15 | epictetus | there's a v.92 56k closing in two hours for $1.25 |
| 20:48.18 | Downix | epictetus: It's fun having perfectly usable hardware |
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| 20:48.26 | zinx | Ungy: fsck will repair too, debugfs will remove immutable files, if fsck doesn't remove the immutable bit |
| 20:48.27 | Downix | like my token ring setup |
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| 20:48.35 | epictetus | another one for $.99 |
| 20:48.38 | zinx | Ungy: use both with the filesystem unmounted for best results |
| 20:48.48 | epictetus | it doesn't look like people are even bidding on anything less than 56k |
| 20:48.52 | zinx | Ungy: however, if you suspect disk failure.. don't use either |
| 20:48.56 | Downix | Fun |
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| 20:49.04 | Downix | I have a 56k, but I'm keeping it for backup |
| 20:49.15 | quiet | omg..lol... My Nessus scan finally finished after about 6 hours... and the report(in html format) is 711 pages! |
| 20:49.18 | zinx | Ungy: copy the data over, see if there were bad blocks.. if there weren't, run badblocks.. if there still weren't, feel free to use fsck/debugfs |
| 20:49.19 | Rickyx | I've created a floppy image using grub-floppy. I can boot into it using qemu. I have another image where I installed hurd using crosshurd. How can I install grub now ? |
| 20:49.27 | quiet | 183 nodes scanned... |
| 20:49.37 | zinx | Ungy: if there are bad blocks, you'll obviously need to replace the hard drive ;) |
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| 20:50.07 | farphadet | streuner_, i create my physical volume, then i create my group of volumes but when i want create my logical volumes i have an error that my group of volume doesn'texist |
| 20:50.10 | streuner_ | farphadet: use when answering the nick, please... |
| 20:50.16 | Ungy | zinx harddrive seem ok its a few files got corrupted |
| 20:50.28 | streuner_ | farphadet: scroll up in ig... |
| 20:50.31 | zinx | Ungy: to me, that doesn't seem ok :/ |
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| 20:51.08 | Downix | epictetus: amazing to me how quickly obsolete things become. |
| 20:51.09 | streuner_ | farphadet: ask first if you /msg people, thanks. |
| 20:51.27 | farphadet | sorry streuner |
| 20:51.37 | farphadet | can i speak with you in pv |
| 20:51.38 | Dragon-Eater | streuner_ can i message u something useless? |
| 20:51.48 | Dragon-Eater | oh wait i already did. |
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| 20:52.46 | streuner_ | Dragon-Eater: keep the convo here in channel, thanks. |
| 20:52.49 | Ungy | zinx hell I can't figure out what I hav eot do I didn;t install this computer and i am trying to fix it remotely so I have no idea how they set up the filesystem |
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| 20:53.08 | Dragon-Eater | streuner_ read what i was pointing at :P |
| 20:53.15 | farphadet | streuner_ can i message you? |
| 20:53.17 | ^Willie^ | can someone tell me whats wrong with the debian basic base install when it don't log the boot errors in the messaged or dmesg log ? |
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| 20:53.34 | Ungy | oh thatose ass munchers they used reiserfs |
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| 20:54.00 | streuner_ | farphadet: there are serveral reasons to keep the convo in channel, just ask in channel. |
| 20:54.38 | FieldySnuts | !irritate farphadet |
| 20:54.39 | dpkg | farphadet: HELP ME!!! who uses kde ???/ |
| 20:54.50 | streuner_ | farphadet: one reason could be, you pm someone and s(he) has no idea at all about... |
| 20:54.53 | FieldySnuts | was hoping for one starting with weanas but oh well |
| 20:55.01 | FieldySnuts | wenas rather |
| 20:55.07 | simonrvn | tough luck. better next time |
| 20:55.17 | FieldySnuts | @irritate simonrvn |
| 20:55.17 | ravenbird | simonrvn: HELP ME!!! how can I make my libranet werkz U FUX0RZ |
| 20:55.20 | FieldySnuts | damnit |
| 20:55.21 | farphadet | ok |
| 20:55.28 | simonrvn | too late i already ran away ;p |
| 20:55.34 | Blissex | ravenbird: there is #Libranet too |
| 20:55.34 | ravenbird | Blissex: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:55.35 | farphadet | nobody can help me |
| 20:55.39 | FieldySnuts | "U FUX0RZ" would have still made it :) |
| 20:55.44 | FieldySnuts | @lart Blissex |
| 20:55.55 | streuner_ | farphadet: just ask in channel, someone might able to help you |
| 20:56.03 | Blissex | farphadet: just ask good detailed questions. |
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| 20:56.29 | ^Willie^ | someone that use serial console ?? |
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| 20:56.34 | Blissex | farphadet: consider reading these suggestions onn how and where to ask questions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 |
| 20:56.53 | streuner_ | farphadet: so you want use existing lvm, is that right? |
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| 20:57.54 | streuner_ | ig says pretty clear you can't use existing lvm's |
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| 20:58.44 | sciron | ok, I'm having a serious case of rectal cranial inversion. what causes unidirectional ping-ability except improper routes, netmasks, resolve.confs, and arp-cache poisoning? |
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| 20:59.03 | sciron | dns isn't an issue in this case, so forget the resolv.conf :| |
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| 20:59.28 | simonrvn | various iptables fuckery |
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| 20:59.35 | sciron | simonrvn, gp, non issue, all off atm |
| 20:59.41 | knuxles | hello everyone |
| 20:59.47 | ^Willie^ | iptablkes is sweet :p |
| 20:59.54 | knuxles | anyone here uses debian on their Macs? |
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| 21:00.01 | ^Willie^ | nope |
| 21:00.09 | simonrvn | @tell knuxles -about polls |
| 21:00.12 | Blissex | Whisky_: still here? |
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| 21:00.24 | knuxles | hey that's not a poll |
| 21:00.28 | knuxles | you got me wrong |
| 21:00.36 | simonrvn | knuxles: there's a whole channel of 'em, #debianppc, #linux-m68k |
| 21:00.42 | knuxles | I was just going to ask for a some help |
| 21:00.47 | knuxles | o.k then |
| 21:00.49 | Blissex | knuxles: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask for help |
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| 21:01.03 | ^Willie^ | sometimes is dpkg annoying |
| 21:01.08 | knuxles | thanks a lot for your help simon and Blissex |
| 21:01.16 | farphadet | streuner_, yes |
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| 21:01.24 | ^Willie^ | you ask 10 times for information and someone just command that bot to spam some pm messages |
| 21:01.29 | Blissex | knuxles: so ask direct, detailed questions, here or #DebianPPC |
| 21:01.43 | tje_ | Can anyone suggest a way that I can make apt/dpkg not care that I don't have a sensible-mda installed so I can install Sendmail from src? |
| 21:01.47 | farphadet | Blissex, i'm french and i don't speak very well english |
| 21:02.05 | tje_ | every time I apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, it clobbers my Sendmail install w/ Exim |
| 21:02.22 | Blissex | farphadet: OK, but the matter is more like the type of questions one asks. |
| 21:02.30 | Yaroon | Anyone knows of IRC channels with spamassassin help? |
| 21:02.38 | Blissex | farphadet: also, there are french language Linux and Debian help channels |
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| 21:02.57 | tje_ | Yaroon .. umm, maybe #spamassassin |
| 21:02.58 | X360 | Hey, Can anyone tell me how i can find out whats running on port 53? |
| 21:03.00 | Ronin | Yaroon: #spamassassin |
| 21:03.03 | Blissex | Yaroon: the Freenode FAQ points at a site that contains a large database of IRC channels. |
| 21:03.15 | Yaroon | I don't think $spamassassin exists... |
| 21:03.16 | Blissex | X360: yes, someone can. |
| 21:03.19 | tje_ | X360 .. it's probably BIND (DNS), but to be sure, run "netstat -anp | less" and find the process there. |
| 21:03.25 | Ronin | Yaroon: bet you it does |
| 21:03.27 | tje_ | read the manpage for netstat to know what each flag does |
| 21:03.32 | X360 | thanks :) |
| 21:03.32 | Yaroon | Oh, it does. |
| 21:03.42 | Yaroon | Thanks. |
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| 21:04.04 | farphadet | i install debian and i want use lvm, so i cretae physical volume for lvm, then i create group of volume, but when i want create logical volume, it says me that group of volume and physical volume don't exist |
| 21:04.05 | tje_ | Any thoughts about how to make dpkg/apt not care that I don't have a sensible-mda installed via apt? |
| 21:04.07 | farphadet | why? |
| 21:04.13 | mikson | how can i update to kde 3.4 from 3.3.2 ? |
| 21:04.13 | X360 | umm 53 doesnt show in that list? :s |
| 21:04.20 | X360 | oh wait nvm :p |
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| 21:04.46 | simonrvn | mikson: that's not an upgrade |
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| 21:04.51 | Kano | hi, could someone using grub as bootmanager show me |
| 21:04.55 | Kano | cat /proc/cmdline |
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| 21:05.11 | farphadet | Do you understand my problem Blissex ? |
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| 21:05.30 | tje_ | I'm guessing no one has any idea about the MTA apt/dpkg issue? |
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| 21:05.46 | mikson | so whats is it then |
| 21:05.52 | simonrvn | tje_: equivs |
| 21:05.52 | mikson | what* |
| 21:05.58 | streuner_ | farphadet: i already answered your question... |
| 21:06.01 | simonrvn | downgrade |
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| 21:06.18 | Blissex | farphadet: it has been explained not that well. Your main issue seems to be with LVM and creating physical volumes and then them not being recognized is that it? |
| 21:06.20 | mikson | isnt 3.4 newer |
| 21:06.21 | tje_ | simonrvn .. Not sure I follow you? |
| 21:06.24 | mikson | than 3.3.2 |
| 21:06.44 | farphadet | yes Blissex |
| 21:06.52 | simonrvn | tje_: it's a package. use it to provide certain deps, like 'mail-transport-agent' |
| 21:07.16 | Blissex | farphadet: so the questions are: which kernel? which LVM version? |
| 21:07.24 | tje_ | simonrvn .. OK, what can I install so it doesn't complain when I apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 21:07.34 | farphadet | with debian sarge 3.1 |
| 21:07.40 | farphadet | with 2.4 |
| 21:07.42 | simonrvn | tje_: reads its docs, that's all covered |
| 21:08.16 | Blissex | farphadet: Uhm, I dont know with 2.4, let me check... |
| 21:08.33 | resiak | Blissex: LVM2 |
| 21:08.37 | resiak | (by default) |
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| 21:08.56 | Blissex | farphadet: because you may have utilities that dont match the kernel, even if <resiak> seems to imply that 2.4 has already got it. |
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| 21:09.02 | tje_ | simonrvn .. just came across them, thanks for the tip |
| 21:09.11 | simonrvn | tje_: np |
| 21:09.26 | resiak | Blissex: (I installed Sarge three days ago, and did LVM during the install, and it's LVM2 :)) |
| 21:09.46 | Blissex | resiak: good. At least that. :-) |
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| 21:10.25 | Blissex | farphadet: can you try to cut and paste to something like http://pastebin.com/ the exact commands you give and the errors you get? |
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| 21:10.47 | resiak | Blissex: It was a bad thing, actually. LVM2 can't do snapshots reliably yet, and my place of work uses snapshots for backups. Fortunately the LVM1 things are still _in_ Sarge. |
| 21:11.55 | Blissex | resiak: than perhaps farphadet is using the LVM1 utils with LVM2 in the kernel. Bah! |
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| 21:12.04 | X360 | ok i have maradns on port 53.. but i cant find it to close it, can anyone gimmie a hand? |
| 21:12.10 | X360 | well.. some info |
| 21:12.17 | resiak | Blissex: *shrug* |
| 21:12.23 | Blissex | X360: '/etc/init.d/maradns stop' probably |
| 21:12.34 | epictetus | x360: fuser -n tcp 53 will give you the PID |
| 21:12.41 | epictetus | then you can kill -9 the PID |
| 21:12.48 | farphadet | Blissex, i use the grphic installer of debian |
| 21:13.02 | pipeline | farphadet: No such thing. |
| 21:13.03 | X360 | dw i got it ::) |
| 21:13.04 | simonrvn | debian doesn't have a gui installer |
| 21:13.08 | Blissex | farphadet: yes, but then you must also choose the right stuff... |
| 21:13.10 | X360 | thanks anyways :) |
| 21:13.20 | pipeline | farphadet: There is only one debian installer.\ |
| 21:13.32 | nicknicknick | anyone here with the "bundled version" of GD2 for PHP4? or a linke where someone created a .deb due the lack of docs on GD bundled or a incomplete doc of which the debian developers think it stinks so we won't create a deb of it. |
| 21:13.51 | nicknicknick | debian sarge |
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| 21:14.20 | simonrvn | isn't it php4-gd2 or such? |
| 21:14.21 | pipeline | farphadet: If you didn't get it at debian.org, it's not debian. That's pretty much all there is to say :| |
| 21:14.28 | pipeline | farphadet: I suggest you get the real debian installer and use that. |
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| 21:14.39 | Ungy | ugg the guys who installed this did it one mount point with reiserfs I am so toast |
| 21:14.41 | harleyg | i have setup my debootstrap, and its kernel etc, but on startup it freezes after it has done starting blah..... for example, starting cron... anyone have ideas, woudl appreciaate it :) |
| 21:15.15 | Blissex | harleyg: sounds like some sort of DNS issue. |
| 21:15.30 | harleyg | its not just cron |
| 21:15.35 | harleyg | i thought it ws, so i removed it |
| 21:15.41 | harleyg | now t get stuck on another one |
| 21:15.51 | farphadet | i get it at debian.org |
| 21:15.55 | nicknicknick | I allready have php4-gd |
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| 21:16.26 | Blissex | farphadet: whatever, try to paste the exact commands you type and the error messages you get to http://pastebin.com/ |
| 21:16.41 | farphadet | i type no command |
| 21:16.51 | farphadet | i use debian installer |
| 21:17.02 | pipeline | farphadet: Oh, that's not a GUI, technically. That's a "curses"-style interface. |
| 21:17.08 | farphadet | yes |
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| 21:18.58 | dbernar1 | I get device is busy when I umount. What could I do? |
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| 21:19.18 | citral | dbernar1: go out of /cdrom/ |
| 21:19.20 | deadcat | hehe. ibook and macmini upgrade. i feel bad for the dudes who bought it the day before. |
| 21:19.34 | dbernar1 | citral: ya, I am out of it. |
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| 21:20.20 | simonrvn | nicknicknick: is it enabled in the php.ini? |
| 21:20.39 | nicknicknick | yes IT is |
| 21:20.56 | nicknicknick | simonrvn may I notice the URL to phpinfo? |
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| 21:22.22 | Gospel | hello everyone |
| 21:22.26 | simonrvn | no, i'm leaving |
| 21:22.43 | Blissex | farphadet: so your problem is basically that during an _install_ you try to setup some physical volume groups and then they are not seen after the install? |
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| 21:23.19 | farphadet | not after the install |
| 21:23.23 | farphadet | during the install |
| 21:23.41 | Blissex | farphadet: in that case it is really a Debian installer question, and I don't quite use it. |
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| 21:24.06 | Blissex | farphadet: however there is a IIRC a channel or at least a mailing list for Debian installer issues |
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| 21:26.04 | Blissex | farphadet: look at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.fr.html for a lot of pointers to Debian installer help and issues |
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| 21:26.24 | Blissex | farphadet: for example it says the help channel is #Debian-boot |
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| 21:28.03 | Gospel | Blissex, is gmail known by every single linux user? |
| 21:28.13 | farphadet | ok thx |
| 21:29.55 | Blissex | Gospel: no, not necessarily, there are lots of linux users in poor countries with no internet access, and without any knowledge of English either. |
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| 21:32.18 | green_earz | farphadet: when you used the installer did you use the expert mode to pick the md module |
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| 21:32.44 | oskie | is gaim broken in unstable or just amd64 unstable? |
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| 21:32.57 | dogmeat | why does 'export DISPLAY=...:0.0' at bash work for xterms, while just 'DISPLAY=...:0.0' does not? |
| 21:32.58 | Hostile | oskie, under unstable |
| 21:33.10 | Hostile | oskie, find a stable gaim .deb off of debian.org and install it then put gaim on hold |
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| 21:34.09 | |sparr| | dogmeat: DISPLAY= only changes the variable in the current... session (wrong word) |
| 21:34.13 | oskie | Hostile: ok, thanks |
| 21:34.20 | Hostile | oskie, no problem :) |
| 21:34.28 | |sparr| | dogmeat: DISPLAY=0:0; foo; <---- that would work, foo would see the change |
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| 21:36.21 | dogmeat | it worked once without the semi-colon between DISPLAY and foo |
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| 21:36.35 | dogmeat | |sparr|: e.g. DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:0.0 |
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| 21:36.42 | Ungy | hmm my gaim is working on sid strange |
| 21:36.43 | dogmeat | |sparr|: e.g. DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:0.0 gnome-terminal |
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| 21:37.13 | black13 | simonrvn still here? |
| 21:38.14 | d3s | I used to have apm able to shutdown properly but I did not remember how to do it. I'm using 2.6.12.3 and I check all of the options for APM. What did I missed to enable apm to shutdown properly on my thinkpad? |
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| 21:39.03 | Blissex | d3s: there are some know issues currently for clean shutdown, I am not sure they have been fixed in 2.6.12.3 for all chipsets. |
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| 21:39.32 | Shadowcat | Blissex: there's a reason I'm still on 2.6.11 |
| 21:39.34 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 21:40.07 | abrotman | maybe try acpi ? |
| 21:40.13 | d3s | Blissex: I could shutdown the machine before, Now, I'm reinstalling it to debian sarge but forgot how to set it up |
| 21:40.41 | abrotman | install apmd or acpid |
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| 21:40.43 | prock | my company currenty builds rpms and runs our software on redhat exclusively... I'd like to try building .debs. Are there scripts which will convert a spec file into what debian uses? |
| 21:40.55 | abrotman | !alien |
| 21:40.55 | dpkg | i guess alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 21:40.57 | abrotman | prock: ^^ |
| 21:40.59 | d3s | abrotman: tried acpi.. didnt work |
| 21:41.05 | Shadowcat | uhh |
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| 21:41.06 | Shadowcat | rpms suck |
| 21:41.08 | d3s | abrotman: installed apmd |
| 21:41.16 | abrotman | prock: i'm not sure it's 100% .. it's better to do it correctly in most cases |
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| 21:41.36 | welson | hmm i thought alien should be avoided |
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| 21:41.45 | abrotman | welson: what did i say? |
| 21:41.50 | prock | ok thanks :) |
| 21:41.58 | abrotman | !tell prock about nm |
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| 21:42.05 | abrotman | uhm |
| 21:42.09 | abrotman | crap .. what's the other one |
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| 21:42.11 | welson | abrotman, i mean the factoid should say it shoud be avoided.. |
| 21:42.13 | abrotman | !tell prock about mg |
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| 21:42.27 | obake | wait |
| 21:42.28 | abrotman | prock: those should help you do it *correctly* |
| 21:42.39 | obake | aliens probally can't have sex with humans |
| 21:42.40 | abrotman | welson: in most cases . it should be unless you have no other option |
| 21:43.04 | prock | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 21:43.24 | d3s | obake: probability occurs when no experience involved :-) |
| 21:43.24 | oskie | is there any way to get rid of the "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" error when apt-get updating? |
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| 21:43.36 | abrotman | !tell oskie about apt secure |
| 21:43.45 | obake | d3s: ok. |
| 21:43.47 | oskie | thank you abrotman |
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| 21:44.07 | abrotman | Will_: are you gonna start bouncing all night again ? |
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| 21:45.23 | Seb | "pon pacbell" -> Error: only members of the 'dip' group can use this command. But "groups" -> ... dip ... |
| 21:45.27 | Seb | what is going on ? |
| 21:45.43 | abrotman | Seb: you're not in the dip group |
| 21:45.58 | Seb | yes I am |
| 21:46.43 | abrotman | if you strace it .. what command says you're not in the dip group ? |
| 21:47.06 | doub | Seb: group membership only takes effect after you log in. if you just added it, it's not taken in account yet |
| 21:47.24 | Seb | doub: nah, been part of this group forever |
| 21:47.25 | Seb | getgroups32(32, [6, 20, 24, 29, 30, 33, 44, 104, 105, 110, 1000]) = 11 |
| 21:47.25 | Seb | rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 |
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| 21:47.35 | nicknicknick | hello |
| 21:47.42 | Seb | afaict, those are the lines that conclude i'm not in dip :\ |
| 21:47.51 | abrotman | Seb: what group number is dip ? |
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| 21:48.07 | oskie | what happened to debian-non-US for unstable? my mirror doesn't have it any longer |
| 21:48.07 | abrotman | COOKIE! |
| 21:48.14 | doub | !topicsmite oskie |
| 21:48.15 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon oskie. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 21:48.17 | abrotman | !topicfsck oskie |
| 21:48.17 | nicknicknick | anyone here with the "bundled version" of GD2 for PHP4? or a linke where someone created a .deb due the lack of docs on GD bundled or a incomplete doc of which the debian developers think it stinks so we won't create a deb of it. check this: http://www.usenetlinux.com/t-241391.html |
| 21:48.18 | Seb | abrotman: 30 |
| 21:48.19 | cookiemonsta | hi, i just installed debian and setup the x86config... but now |
| 21:48.25 | cookiemonsta | i get these little lines going through my screeen |
| 21:48.31 | abrotman | Seb: so you're not ? |
| 21:48.33 | cookiemonsta | every time i open up a window |
| 21:48.35 | abrotman | !drxx cookiemonsta |
| 21:48.36 | dpkg | cookiemonsta: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 21:48.37 | Seb | abrotman: ? |
| 21:48.40 | abrotman | cookiemonsta: which card? |
| 21:48.43 | abrotman | Seb: in dip |
| 21:48.48 | Seb | abrotman: i am |
| 21:48.48 | oskie | oops. sorry. |
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| 21:48.51 | cookiemonsta | nvidia gforce 4 |
| 21:48.54 | Seb | abrotman: you can see it returned 30 in the list |
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| 21:49.05 | sereal | Can someone help me mount a NTFS drive? |
| 21:49.29 | oskie | what is 'etch'? |
| 21:49.33 | abrotman | !etch |
| 21:49.33 | dpkg | somebody said etch was the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 21:49.34 | doub | cookiemonsta: my guess is that you need to install the nvidia driver, as the open source nv driver is buggy |
| 21:49.35 | fhffhqvb | in soviet russia, drive mounts you |
| 21:49.43 | oskie | ah ok |
| 21:49.46 | Seb | abrotman: any more ideas ? :\ |
| 21:49.48 | Ungy | oskie the next release of Debian will be named etch it is currently in testing |
| 21:49.48 | abrotman | Seb: if you do it as root .. does it work ? |
| 21:49.49 | cookiemonsta | where could i get it from? |
| 21:49.53 | Seb | abrotman: yes |
| 21:50.24 | cookiemonsta | it's just little like tiny lines |
| 21:50.27 | abrotman | Seb: i'm pretty sure when i was on dialup .. i ran around and set a ton of binaries SUID because the scripts didn't work right even if you were in the dip group |
| 21:50.31 | cookiemonsta | just appearing and dissappearing.. |
| 21:50.31 | sereal | Well, i more need to know which drive it is under /dev/ |
| 21:50.35 | doub | cookiemonsta: some 'nvidia-*' package has it, presumably |
| 21:50.37 | Seb | abrotman: hmm |
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| 21:50.45 | Seb | abrotman: i'm considering chgrp -R dip /etc/ppp |
| 21:50.45 | doub | cookiemonsta: i get the same here |
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| 21:50.52 | cookiemonsta | ? |
| 21:50.53 | abrotman | Seb: i also used pppconfig and pon/poff |
| 21:51.04 | Seb | abrotman: well shit, that fixed it |
| 21:51.09 | abrotman | heh |
| 21:51.11 | Seb | the chmod -R dip /etc/ppp |
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| 21:51.17 | abrotman | wait |
| 21:51.24 | abrotman | there's no mode |
| 21:51.28 | abrotman | chown ? |
| 21:51.32 | Seb | guess somehow this /etc/ppp wasn't set right. Maybe I copied it from some other machine, without retaining group/perms |
| 21:51.39 | Seb | abrotman: srry,chgrp |
| 21:51.43 | abrotman | Seb: ah ok |
| 21:51.46 | cookiemonsta | doub, where could i get it...? |
| 21:52.00 | mama_pitufo | cookiemonsta, apt-cache search nvidia |
| 21:52.01 | abrotman | Seb: i haven't done dialup for a long time .. but it wasn't quite right last time |
| 21:52.06 | abrotman | !nvidia one liner |
| 21:52.06 | dpkg | [nvidia one-liner] apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 21:52.17 | doub | !tell cookiemonsta -about nvidia-howto |
| 21:52.27 | Seb | abrotman: i stay away from dialup as much as I can. BUt my parents only have that, so it's better than nothing |
| 21:52.38 | abrotman | Seb: debatable |
| 21:52.39 | abrotman | :) |
| 21:52.41 | cookiemonsta | ta |
| 21:52.43 | Seb | abrotman: and I learnt a long time ago to not wait to get there before trying to get my winmodem to work ;) |
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| 21:52.52 | abrotman | Seb: ewww |
| 21:53.21 | licued | heya |
| 21:53.21 | MagiPink | Hey all... Is there a way to setup my internet connection for the net install? :3 |
| 21:53.26 | licued | IPSec(4), vpn(8), isakmpd(8), isakmpd.conf(5), isakmpd.policy(5) |
| 21:53.30 | licued | what do all the #'s mean? |
| 21:53.31 | prdx | hi @ all. having still problems with my nvidia gforce. glxinfo: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". Does anyone have an idea how to fix this? |
| 21:53.39 | abrotman | MagiPink: which kind ? |
| 21:53.48 | abrotman | licued: man page sections |
| 21:53.52 | MagiPink | abrotman: DSL |
| 21:53.52 | Ungy | Magipink dhcp or static? |
| 21:53.52 | doub | !tell prdx -about nvidia-howto |
| 21:53.56 | abrotman | licued: example .. man 8 vpn |
| 21:53.58 | licued | ah thank you |
| 21:54.05 | abrotman | MagiPink: you have no router ? |
| 21:54.14 | nicknicknick | anyone here with the "bundled version" of GD2 for PHP4? or a link where someone created a .deb due the lack of docs on GD bundled or a incomplete doc of which the debian developers think it stinks so we won't create a deb of it. check this: http://www.usenetlinux.com/t-241391.html I allready have php4-gd |
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| 21:54.22 | MagiPink | abrotman: Uh... No? :3 |
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| 21:54.39 | abrotman | MagiPink: uhm .. it's not in the install manual? |
| 21:54.40 | abrotman | !ig |
| 21:54.40 | dpkg | i guess ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 21:54.43 | Ungy | MagicPink have you instrted the disk? |
| 21:54.45 | Blissex | nicknicknick: look at dotDeb.org |
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| 21:54.55 | abrotman | nicknicknick: gd2 ? .. libgd2 ? |
| 21:55.17 | Ungy | MagiPink, have you inserted the netinstall disk? |
| 21:55.18 | nicknicknick | yes allready have that php4-gd2 = php4-gd on sarge |
| 21:55.20 | MagiPink | I should likely read that then... :3 |
| 21:55.26 | nicknicknick | and it's NOT the bundled version\ |
| 21:55.33 | abrotman | nicknicknick: php4-gd on sarge is libgd2 .. what's the problem? |
| 21:55.33 | MagiPink | Ungy: Well, I have -before- It's not there right this moment. |
| 21:55.39 | doub | prdx: the nvidia drivers don't use DRI anyway |
| 21:55.41 | Ungy | !nickometer nicknicknick |
| 21:55.41 | dpkg | 'nicknicknick' is 0.000% lame, ungy |
| 21:55.42 | licued | anothe rquick thing |
| 21:55.48 | nicknicknick | abrotman read the full sentance pleae |
| 21:55.49 | abrotman | no more quick things |
| 21:55.57 | abrotman | nicknicknick: i did .. it was confusing :) |
| 21:56.04 | licued | isSlippery (S>) or Ragweed(R>) ... what are those in refrecne to ? I know it's in refrence to isakmpd.confg but what are they? |
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| 21:56.36 | Ungy | MagiPink, the install disk shoudl actually prompt you for your network settings |
| 21:56.52 | nicknicknick | abrotman well simple: there is no bundled version of GD available on debian sarge. I need the Bundled version of GD2 that's way something else then GD2 itself |
| 21:57.09 | abrotman | nicknicknick: are you saying PHP doesn't work ? |
| 21:57.19 | nicknicknick | abrotman never ever said that |
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| 21:57.29 | abrotman | nicknicknick: see why i'm confused :) |
| 21:57.35 | nicknicknick | abrotman it's just that there is no Bundled version of GD |
| 21:57.44 | MagiPink | Ungy: Oh... Well, I'll go check it out again. :) |
| 21:57.46 | nicknicknick | no, there are two versions of php4 GD |
| 21:57.46 | Ungy | abrotman he wants a GD pacakge |
| 21:57.46 | abrotman | bundled for what purpose? |
| 21:57.47 | MagiPink | Thanks all~ |
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| 21:57.57 | NiklasH_work | hi, is there anything special you need to do to get postfix to stop using /var/mail and use maildirs? |
| 21:58.11 | NiklasH_work | besides adding home_mailbox=Maildir/, that is... |
| 21:58.17 | Ungy | NiklasH_work, add a / at the end |
| 21:58.17 | nicknicknick | abrotman: http://www.usenetlinux.com/t-241391.html |
| 21:58.17 | abrotman | ok .. libgd2 is bad ? |
| 21:58.19 | NiklasH_work | to main.cf |
| 21:58.26 | abrotman | nicknicknick: i'm reading .. and still more confused |
| 21:58.34 | nicknicknick | abrotman take your time |
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| 21:58.37 | nicknicknick | and read please |
| 21:58.38 | RvGaTe | Is there a tutorial for Sarge to get an webserver running easily... |
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| 21:58.47 | NiklasH_work | Ungy: i |
| 21:58.50 | RvGaTe | with all the common stuff on it |
| 21:58.52 | nicknicknick | tutorial? there is no tutorial |
| 21:58.55 | NiklasH_work | stupid keyboard... |
| 21:59.01 | nicknicknick | you need clues and knowlegde |
| 21:59.03 | abrotman | nicknicknick: so you want imagerotate() ? |
| 21:59.08 | nicknicknick | YES!~ |
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| 21:59.15 | NiklasH_work | Ungy: I've added that, but it still uses /var/mail |
| 21:59.22 | abrotman | nicknicknick: why not just write it .. it's like 2 lines of PHP :) |
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| 21:59.51 | nicknicknick | abrotman how about using encoded php files that require the Bundled version of GD? :) |
| 22:00.02 | nicknicknick | what source do I need to edit then? |
| 22:00.05 | Ungy | NiklasH_work, att it to the Maildir |
| 22:00.18 | abrotman | nicknicknick: sounds like an exercise in futility :) |
| 22:00.40 | abrotman | nicknicknick: so you're saying using php4-gd .. imagerotate() doesn't work ? |
| 22:00.46 | nicknicknick | right... decode encoded files of someone else, add some two lined code to it .. and voila? |
| 22:00.46 | NiklasH_work | Ungy: that's all there is to it, then? I've done that, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 22:00.55 | nicknicknick | abrotman indeed :) |
| 22:01.00 | Ungy | NiklasH_work, did you restart postfix |
| 22:01.04 | NiklasH_work | yep |
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| 22:01.22 | zenit | I installed a 2.6.x version kernel. Due to problems with my nic, I need to execute a script to bring it up and then load the module. I added a line to /etc/modprobe.conf and i works when I run it manually, but it's not run during boot :/ |
| 22:01.25 | Ungy | and every users mailbox ends in a / |
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| 22:01.35 | abrotman | nicknicknick: i think the PHP packager should be shot :) |
| 22:01.44 | Ungy | NiklasH_work, and every users mailbox ends in a / |
| 22:01.52 | roler | i'm trying to use the mysql bind-address option in my.cnf and I can't figure out how to bind to two ip addresses, not just one... |
| 22:01.59 | Ungy | NiklasH_work, go to #postfix I help you there |
| 22:02.10 | abrotman | nicknicknick: could it be defined elsewhere ? |
| 22:02.29 | NiklasH_work | Ungy: ok |
| 22:03.06 | Morti | What site do you recommend for pasting things? |
| 22:03.10 | abrotman | !paste |
| 22:03.10 | dpkg | i heard paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 22:03.12 | cookiemonsta | ff |
| 22:03.19 | cookiemonsta | could it be anything to do with my lcd screen |
| 22:03.19 | cookiemonsta | ? |
| 22:03.44 | Morti | Thanks abrotman |
| 22:03.47 | abrotman | cookiemonsta: sid ? |
| 22:03.52 | cookiemonsta | ? |
| 22:04.09 | abrotman | nicknicknick: odder yet .. the docs include stuff for that imagerotate function :) |
| 22:04.18 | nicknicknick | what docs? |
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| 22:04.35 | abrotman | $ apt-file search imagerotate |
| 22:04.35 | abrotman | phpdoc: usr/share/doc/phpdoc/html/function.imagerotate.html |
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| 22:05.39 | nicknicknick | -bash: apt-file: command not found |
| 22:05.40 | nicknicknick | ;) |
| 22:05.46 | abrotman | !find imagerotate sarge |
| 22:06.23 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'imagerotate' (1): (/usr/share/doc/phpdoc/html/function.imagerotate.html) in non-free/doc/phpdoc. |
| 22:06.37 | eeyore- | cookiemon: hit the "auto adjust" button on your lcd display (it's an analog, right?) |
| 22:06.43 | eeyore- | bah |
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| 22:07.06 | nicknicknick | abrotman my box doesn't have that doc |
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| 22:07.18 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you'd have to install phpdoc |
| 22:07.23 | Schiz0 | whats the dpkg command to reconfigure installed packages? |
| 22:07.30 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure packagename |
| 22:07.35 | Schiz0 | thanks |
| 22:07.44 | nicknicknick | abrotman allready did apt-get install phpdoc |
| 22:07.49 | nicknicknick | but still no imagerotate |
| 22:07.54 | abrotman | it was a doc page |
| 22:08.32 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you can have PHP show you defined functions ? |
| 22:08.50 | nicknicknick | ?? |
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| 22:09.11 | albo_ | how much swap should i do ? 1:1 with ram ? |
| 22:09.15 | abrotman | nicknicknick: when you try to use imagerotate .. what's the error ? |
| 22:09.18 | abrotman | albo_: how much RAM ? |
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| 22:10.55 | nicknicknick | abrotman: "This function is only available if PHP is compiled with the bundled version of the GD library" |
| 22:11.05 | abrotman | what kind of stupid fucking error is that |
| 22:11.11 | albo_ | abrotman: 1.5 GIg |
| 22:11.22 | abrotman | albo_: yes .. 1:1 should be fine .. |
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| 22:11.41 | abrotman | albo_: 2GB is the swapfile max .. so depending on HDD size . .might aswell :) |
| 22:11.46 | nicknicknick | abrotman this works and worked fine on fuckdora |
| 22:11.53 | abrotman | nicknicknick: oh . .i'm sure .. |
| 22:11.54 | eeyore- | abrotman: it's not a stupid fucking error. it makes perfect sense. recompile php with gd support |
| 22:12.04 | abrotman | eeyore-: he has gd support .. |
| 22:12.06 | eeyore- | nicknicknick: does it work if you load the php-gd module? |
| 22:12.08 | abrotman | eeyore-: php4-gd |
| 22:12.12 | abrotman | eeyore-: and no |
| 22:12.17 | eeyore- | abrotman: did he *actually* load the module? |
| 22:12.27 | nicknicknick | look |
| 22:12.28 | abrotman | eeyore-: oh .. wait .. yes .. php.ini .. i assume too much |
| 22:12.37 | nicknicknick | I'm going to start to shoot people here |
| 22:12.56 | nicknicknick | no, at least you're getting it now |
| 22:12.58 | deadcat | !tell abrotman about enter |
| 22:13.04 | abrotman | deadcat: what do you mean ? |
| 22:13.13 | deadcat | ^^ (= |
| 22:13.14 | abrotman | deadcat: i have no enter key! |
| 22:13.27 | abrotman | i have to keep pasting \n's in |
| 22:13.35 | weilawei | haha |
| 22:13.45 | eeyore- | so ... um ... does it work now? |
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| 22:13.58 | nicknicknick | NO!!!!! |
| 22:14.04 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you did .. /me says softly ... enable it in your php.ini .. right ? |
| 22:14.12 | nicknicknick | debian's php4-gd sucks assholes |
| 22:14.24 | nicknicknick | ohw man really |
| 22:14.29 | eeyore- | nicknicknick: there are *two* php.ini files. one for apache, and one for command-line |
| 22:14.39 | nicknicknick | www.liquidweb.nl/info.php FUCK YOU AND READ.. k thx :P |
| 22:15.00 | streuner_ | nicknicknick: STFU |
| 22:15.01 | FieldySnuts | !irritate nicknicknick |
| 22:15.02 | dpkg | nicknicknick: hi every1 who uses sound lol |
| 22:15.04 | eeyore- | that's a rather nice attitude for someone who needs help |
| 22:15.18 | FieldySnuts | it's the attitude of someone who should get no further help |
| 22:15.22 | nicknicknick | okay I apoligize |
| 22:15.30 | nicknicknick | because everyone keep asking the same stuff |
| 22:15.35 | nicknicknick | and yes it;s enabled |
| 22:15.36 | streuner_ | nicknicknick: ok, play somewhere else |
| 22:15.44 | nicknicknick | GD Version 2.0 or higher <-- should be bundled |
| 22:15.57 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you want to know how to rebuild the php4-gd package |
| 22:15.57 | FieldySnuts | compile it y oruself or something. that way we don't have to support it. |
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| 22:16.08 | TheAsp | nicknicknick: perhaps you want php4-gd2? |
| 22:16.09 | Schiz0 | I need a mailserver that can send out email, I don't care about recieving. Any suggestions? |
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| 22:16.16 | abrotman | TheAsp: if it existed |
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| 22:16.20 | FieldySnuts | exim, postfix, there are lots of choices |
| 22:16.24 | FieldySnuts | !start an mta war |
| 22:16.24 | welson | Schiz0, you mean a mta |
| 22:16.24 | dpkg | qmail is a spam magnet |
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| 22:16.36 | nicknicknick | abrotman I googled for some solutions and found out that it's no more then a configure error of which the debian maintainer can't take care of |
| 22:16.51 | FieldySnuts | bother him then not us |
| 22:16.54 | abrotman | nicknicknick: so you want to rebuild the package right ? |
| 22:16.57 | TheAsp | oh, its replaced by -g |
| 22:16.58 | nicknicknick | TheAsp php4-gd2 = php4-gd <-- for the 5th time k thx |
| 22:16.58 | TheAsp | gd |
| 22:17.09 | abrotman | nicknicknick: also .. make sure you actually file a bug |
| 22:17.09 | Schiz0 | FieldySnuts- thanks; welson- yeah |
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| 22:17.20 | FieldySnuts | actually he's continuing to put up a major attitude, i'm no longer intersted in helping. and no wonder the devs aren't either. |
| 22:17.25 | nicknicknick | abrotman debian doesn't really take it as a bug |
| 22:17.25 | joe_ | hello |
| 22:17.31 | joe_ | i've got kubuntu |
| 22:17.31 | nicknicknick | they suck at that period |
| 22:17.32 | abrotman | nicknicknick: file it anyways |
| 22:17.36 | FieldySnuts | as i said. |
| 22:17.41 | abrotman | nicknicknick: make it critical .. |
| 22:17.51 | streuner_ | joe_: use debian or join #(k)ubuntu |
| 22:17.52 | joe_ | can anyone tell me how i can update it to the latest version |
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| 22:18.01 | abrotman | if they don't agree .. they'll downgrade it .. that function is according to php.net .. supposed to work in >= 4.3.0 |
| 22:18.31 | nicknicknick | yeah I know .. guess what .. I'll compile my own php4 and debianize it |
| 22:18.34 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you seem to really not like debian .. why are you using it ? |
| 22:18.49 | FieldySnuts | yes! please do so, so we don't have to support your irritating ass |
| 22:18.55 | abrotman | nicknicknick: you can't even figure out how to recompile a single package .. what makes you think you can debianize php4 ? |
| 22:19.03 | nicknicknick | it's only a ./configure error .. --with-gd is the solution not --with-gd=/usr |
| 22:19.16 | weilawei | karma nicknicknick |
| 22:19.20 | nicknicknick | abrotman I love debian way too much |
| 22:19.25 | nicknicknick | I hate php4 GD |
| 22:19.27 | weilawei | !karma nicknicknick |
| 22:19.27 | dpkg | nicknicknick has neutral karma |
| 22:19.32 | FieldySnuts | nicknicknick-- |
| 22:19.32 | weilawei | nicknicknick-- |
| 22:19.49 | TheAsp | heh |
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| 22:20.08 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:20.13 | FieldySnuts | nicknicknick: maybe fhffhqvb will help |
| 22:20.19 | mauris | perdon cual es el canal en español?? |
| 22:20.19 | nicknicknick | ohw and don't mind me I'm a bit stressed up and sorry for the crap earlier |
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| 22:20.21 | abrotman | nicknicknick: that's what i'm trying to tell you .. recompile php4-gd |
| 22:20.22 | nicknicknick | brb food |
| 22:20.25 | streuner_ | !es |
| 22:20.25 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:20.29 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: wasting your time |
| 22:20.31 | mauris | !es |
| 22:20.39 | abrotman | nicknicknick: change the stupid rules file .. and get a working imagerotate |
| 22:20.43 | nicknicknick | abrotman as I figured out googling |
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| 22:20.56 | nicknicknick | abrotman I will once I get some food in |
| 22:21.05 | nicknicknick | brb |
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| 22:21.22 | OctalTHOR | If I install ntp-simple and add some server lines to ntp.conf, is that enough to keep my time in sync, or do I need to do something else? |
| 22:21.26 | nvz | I had food already, I am waiting for the Liquor to chill |
| 22:21.39 | abrotman | nvz: IC LIGHT!?!?!?!?! |
| 22:21.54 | nvz | nope Yagermiester |
| 22:21.56 | Schiz0 | I already have exim4 installed, and on the webmin interface I get the errors: R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported |
| 22:21.56 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:22.07 | Schiz0 | How can I get support for mailing to remote domains? |
| 22:22.16 | nvz | Yagerbombs that is |
| 22:22.19 | abrotman | nvz: remember the churchbrew.com site .. the one that sucks .. i showed it to a friend who does web work on contract .. and begged him to fix it :) |
| 22:22.27 | Wyzard | Schiz0: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and choose an option other than "local delivery only" |
| 22:22.38 | abrotman | !phillysmite Wyzard |
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| 22:22.46 | FieldySnuts | and configure it yourself, webmin is known to badgerize config files |
| 22:22.48 | abrotman | i need more phillysmites |
| 22:22.48 | nvz | abrotman: you could have either stopped looking at it, or just patched it locally with a greasemonkey script |
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| 22:23.02 | abrotman | nvz: no .. it should really be fixed .. i told him to contact them |
| 22:23.04 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite webmin |
| 22:23.05 | ravenbird | webmin: heh im going to the dunny to wank with my donger mate |
| 22:23.07 | cs378 | What linux is best for laptop? |
| 22:23.09 | abrotman | nvz: and i think he just might |
| 22:23.13 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 22:23.14 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 22:23.18 | cs378 | !laptop |
| 22:23.31 | abrotman | go to the URLs |
| 22:23.36 | Schiz0 | Wyzard, FieldySnuts- gracias |
| 22:23.39 | abrotman | esp linux-laptop.net |
| 22:23.43 | streuner_ | cs378: what answer do you expect in #debian? |
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| 22:23.50 | nvz | I think I might go get some fucking ice and put it in a bucket or something.. I dont feel like waiting much longer, or running up and down the stairs all night |
| 22:24.04 | cs378 | like a disco that i best for laptop n newbie |
| 22:24.24 | streuner_ | cs378: if you have a brain and you can read just use debian |
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| 22:24.30 | nvz | dpkg, confuse cs378 |
| 22:24.31 | dpkg | Yes, what is your bacon today, cs378? wellies of the monarchy of swaziland with extra herring |
| 22:25.02 | cs378 | haaha |
| 22:25.10 | cs378 | which is better, ubuntu or suse? |
| 22:25.15 | abrotman | wrong channel |
| 22:25.15 | cbr | ubuntu |
| 22:25.16 | weilawei | ubuntu. |
| 22:25.24 | cs378 | oh ok |
| 22:25.25 | cs378 | thx |
| 22:25.25 | streuner_ | cs378: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 22:25.29 | cs378 | thats all i need to know |
| 22:25.30 | ArtistAgent | yep got to go with weilawai |
| 22:25.35 | ArtistAgent | ubuntu is better |
| 22:25.35 | weilawei | abrotman, this is IRC. every channel is #mydistroisbetterthanyours |
| 22:25.37 | abrotman | i vote for debian |
| 22:25.44 | abrotman | you know .. cuase it's the best |
| 22:25.46 | ArtistAgent | me too really abrotman lol |
| 22:25.51 | abrotman | all others fucking suck .. donkey balls |
| 22:25.54 | weilawei | yeah.. i have to go to debian |
| 22:26.00 | abrotman | nvz: why can't you just boogie with ? |
| 22:26.00 | RvGaTe | With apache2 on debian Sarge, where do i change the default dir, so that people try to access the webserver, they get to see that dir/page instead of the stupid "Test Page for Apache Installation" page... |
| 22:26.12 | ArtistAgent | well abrotman id like to agree with ya |
| 22:26.13 | abrotman | RvGaTe: in the apache configuration file |
| 22:26.17 | ArtistAgent | but i cant LOL! |
| 22:26.18 | nvz | abrotman: whut? |
| 22:26.27 | abrotman | nvz: boogie with FieldySnuts .. instead of around |
| 22:26.30 | TheAsp | nvz: throw something in /var/www/index.html |
| 22:26.37 | ArtistAgent | i mean disagree sorry abrotman disagree |
| 22:26.41 | FieldySnuts | no. |
| 22:26.45 | abrotman | ArtistAgent: ok |
| 22:26.50 | abrotman | ArtistAgent: you're wrong .. but ok |
| 22:26.58 | RvGaTe | abrotman: i been looking at this config file for ages now, what line do i need to look for? |
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| 22:27.10 | abrotman | RvGaTe: ok .. uhm .. /etc/apache2/available-sites/default-001 or some crap like that |
| 22:27.11 | nvz | abrotman: *shrug* I dont really know... I am not sure how to boogie in the first place.. or if its appropriate to boogie with FieldySnuts |
| 22:27.21 | FieldySnuts | do it with Phated |
| 22:27.24 | ArtistAgent | geez i always fuck up the punch line. but seriously debian IS the best linux os around nay the best OS |
| 22:27.30 | abrotman | nvz: oh yeah .. you're from pittsburgh .. you can only do a texas two step :) |
| 22:27.32 | streuner_ | IP - - [27/Jul/2005:00:13:16 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 153 "-" "-" <-- What's that? |
| 22:27.32 | ArtistAgent | that ive ever used |
| 22:27.45 | abrotman | streuner_: oh i know!!! |
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| 22:27.53 | ArtistAgent | next comes in DSL but thats just for fun and small applications |
| 22:27.54 | abrotman | streuner_: it's a line from your apache log!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:27.55 | abrotman | !win me |
| 22:27.56 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 22:27.59 | nvz | abrotman: oh yeah? want to see me drop it like its hot? meh |
| 22:28.04 | abrotman | nvz: hhe |
| 22:28.10 | streuner_ | abrotman: that's no quiz, can you tell me it too? |
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| 22:28.21 | streuner_ | dpkg, wb cafuego |
| 22:28.22 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! cafuego has returned! |
| 22:28.35 | abrotman | streuner_: did you blank out the IP ? or the client ? |
| 22:28.37 | streuner_ | cafuego in .nz? |
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| 22:28.51 | Downix | !win me |
| 22:28.51 | streuner_ | abrotman: subsitute the IP - not more |
| 22:28.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, downix! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 22:29.09 | cafuego | streuner_: Naah, just bought the domain and just got the reverse entry working :-) |
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| 22:29.18 | abrotman | streuner_: it's trying to get the index file ... |
| 22:29.25 | abrotman | streuner_: afaict anyways |
| 22:29.34 | abrotman | streuner_: and it did it well |
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| 22:29.55 | streuner_ | abrotman: what's the command? |
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| 22:30.15 | Schiz0 | What's the highest port? |
| 22:30.28 | abrotman | streuner_: telnet host 80 .. get / .. ^] .. something like that |
| 22:30.38 | streuner_ | abrotman: yeah, thanks. |
| 22:31.07 | abrotman | streuner_: does it do the same thing ? |
| 22:31.10 | abrotman | in the logs i mean |
| 22:31.11 | alien-fetus | hi, my internet cuts out i get huge packet loss and im getting weird connections when i do netstat -natup i run chkrootkit in cron and havent noticed anything are there any other tools i can check if i have been compromised? |
| 22:31.51 | abrotman | DSL ? |
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| 22:32.08 | ma3x | is there like good .doc viewer? |
| 22:32.16 | Jaak | ooo |
| 22:32.19 | ma3x | i just downloaded a couple of doc files, and can't view them with kate, kwrite .... |
| 22:32.21 | streuner_ | ma3x: abiword? |
| 22:32.23 | abrotman | ma3x: abiword or OO.o |
| 22:32.42 | ma3x | is it free of charge? |
| 22:32.45 | abrotman | streuner_: does it replicate the log line if you do that ? |
| 22:32.45 | streuner_ | openoffice ^^ |
| 22:32.50 | abrotman | ma3x: apt-cache search abiword |
| 22:32.54 | abrotman | ma3x: apt-cache search openoffice |
| 22:33.00 | ma3x | doing it... |
| 22:33.01 | streuner_ | abrotman: no idea, i didn't use it yet |
| 22:33.08 | ma3x | bytheway how about exporting pictures, photos |
| 22:33.13 | abrotman | streuner_: get on it! |
| 22:33.16 | Wyzard | Schiz0: 65535 |
| 22:33.18 | abrotman | exporting ? |
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| 22:33.26 | abrotman | Wyzard: that seems like a number i should know |
| 22:33.26 | ma3x | my camera makes always oversize pics, like 500 KBytes instead of only 100 |
| 22:33.32 | ma3x | how do i export them to 100? |
| 22:33.34 | FieldySnuts | try abiword first. considerably smaller than openoffice |
| 22:33.38 | abrotman | imagemagick .. or gimp |
| 22:33.41 | RvGaTe | abrotman: got it, thx fo the help |
| 22:33.43 | FieldySnuts | what abrotman said |
| 22:33.45 | ma3x | i'll try gimp[ |
| 22:33.47 | streuner_ | ma3x: 'convert' |
| 22:33.49 | abrotman | RvGaTe: wait .. i was right ? |
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| 22:33.55 | Wyzard | abrotman: <Schiz0> What's the highest port? |
| 22:34.05 | ma3x | streuner_ : that's right, convert, is this option available in imagemagick? |
| 22:34.06 | abrotman | RvGaTe: that was the right file ? |
| 22:34.08 | Schiz0 | Yeah, thanks |
| 22:34.17 | Wyzard | ma3x: Re-save them with a lower quality? |
| 22:34.22 | streuner_ | ma3x: read the man-page |
| 22:34.26 | abrotman | Wyzard: cause any man should be fine with 65535 ports :) |
| 22:34.29 | ma3x | yes Wyzard , bingo! |
| 22:34.32 | Wyzard | ma3x: I wouldn't call them "oversized"... file size is proportional to image size and quality |
| 22:34.41 | RvGaTe | abrotman: there was this config i missed: /etc/apache2/available-sites/default |
| 22:34.42 | abrotman | mine are .. 800k i think |
| 22:34.50 | abrotman | RvGaTe: yep .. that's the one :) |
| 22:35.04 | Wyzard | same here |
| 22:35.10 | ma3x | Wyzard : why 500 kB when it can be reduced to 50-100 without losing pic quality? |
| 22:35.12 | Wyzard | approximately |
| 22:35.13 | RvGaTe | abrotman: so.. yeah, you were right |
| 22:35.26 | abrotman | RvGaTe: you owe me .. two beers! |
| 22:35.33 | RvGaTe | two !? |
| 22:35.37 | RvGaTe | damn you :@ |
| 22:35.43 | Wyzard | ma3x: No... you make the file smaller by re-saving it with a *lower quality* setting |
| 22:36.00 | Wyzard | ma3x: The JPEG compressor throws more details away, so there's less to store in the file |
| 22:36.30 | ma3x | Wyzard : right, but from 500 to 100 kB ain't 5 times worse quality, is it? |
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| 22:36.51 | Downix | ma3x: actually, yes |
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| 22:37.16 | Wyzard | ma3x: Depends on how you measure quality -- it's not like there's a standard unit for quantitative measurements of it -- but it's certainly only one-fifth as much data |
| 22:37.23 | eeyore- | ma3x: proportionally, yes. 500K -> 100K = 1/5 data. |
| 22:37.26 | Wyzard | ma3x: You'd lose fine details |
| 22:37.39 | FieldySnuts | if you're saving in jpeg you've already lost a very small ammount of detail |
| 22:37.43 | Wyzard | ma3x: and probably get more color blockiness |
| 22:37.46 | ma3x | Wyzard : it's not eye noticable |
| 22:37.50 | FieldySnuts | re-saving a jpeg causes more loss, possibly far more depending on what quality |
| 22:38.00 | eeyore- | ma3x: 1.5GB -> 1.5GB-500k = not a lot of loss :-) |
| 22:38.08 | Wyzard | ma3x: It's noticeable, just not immediately glaringly obvious |
| 22:38.17 | FieldySnuts | but yeah it depends on your needs, if you are a detail/quality freak like me (who takes 23MB tiffs with an 8.0MP camera), you don't dare do anything to lose quality |
| 22:38.24 | eeyore- | ma3x: you just have to try it and see, actually |
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| 22:38.52 | FieldySnuts | 95% quality jpeg is as low as I go |
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| 22:39.06 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: yeah, i even get upset when my buddy casually rotates pictures in his thumbsplus and re-saves the picture |
| 22:39.08 | tvik | Hello! I cant get my network card up.. I have a onboard network card, Nforce 3 chipset.. anyone? |
| 22:39.09 | FieldySnuts | end up with a 2.1 or so MB picture compared to above |
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| 22:39.21 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: kept telling him there's a lossless jpeg way to rotate :-) never listens, that one |
| 22:39.23 | Wyzard | ma3x: On some screens (such as old LCD screens with poor gamma) the loss will be particularly noticeable |
| 22:39.28 | abrotman | nicknicknick: if you get the source packages .. the change you're making should be trivial |
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| 22:41.15 | Wyzard | FieldySnuts: Biggest image I've seen was a 24576x24576 one that made a ~85MB PNG |
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| 22:41.58 | FieldySnuts | i bet. i have some rediculous 85000xsomecrap image somewhere, it's a military released tiff of all of iraq |
| 22:42.01 | ma3x | don't you think debian's cool? |
| 22:42.01 | abrotman | Wyzard: i've seen bigger .. a friend of mine works for a historical committee at the PA state capital building .. over 100MB .. easily |
| 22:42.04 | FieldySnuts | just found it interesting |
| 22:42.09 | |sparr| | in a /usr/lib/menu entry, what should i put for the package() for a custom entry for a non-packaged game? |
| 22:42.14 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 22:42.18 | FieldySnuts | dealing with such images takes rediculous ammounts of ram |
| 22:42.23 | |sparr| | FieldySnuts: thats not really that big |
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| 22:42.29 | |sparr| | i did images that big for fun sometimes |
| 22:42.45 | Wyzard | FieldySnuts: Doesn't surprise me that a map of Iraq is bigger than the Ultima 7 world map :-) |
| 22:42.46 | pipeline | Wyzard, FieldySnuts, abrotman : There are freely available photos of the earth's surface that are 100,000 pixels tall and several wide |
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| 22:43.07 | |sparr| | a complete map of a MMORPG world, at the resolution provided in the game minimap, is usually on the order of 100k*100k pixels |
| 22:43.11 | FieldySnuts | yeah. the blue marble tiffs are fun to attempt to load on a system with less than 10 or 8GB memory |
| 22:43.14 | ufoalien | ot: where are intelligent girls going dring their holidays? I know museums and libraries... (no troll ;) |
| 22:43.30 | FieldySnuts | end up making a big arse swap 'file' |
| 22:43.43 | abrotman | pipeline: i know this .. i meant a rational image :) |
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| 22:44.02 | cureless | ufoalien, inteligent girls have jobs like everybody else. |
| 22:44.12 | |sparr| | FieldySnuts: depends on the image editor and the file format. for a file that huge its usually smart to only load the part you need, and when the user scrolls out of that part just reload the new parts of the file |
| 22:44.27 | ufoalien | cureless: no, i mean, young girls, in my age 16, which are going to school |
| 22:44.34 | eeyore- | ufoalien: and you think intelligent girls will want to hang out with someone who likes UFO's and aliens? |
| 22:44.35 | abrotman | nicknicknick: if you get the source package for php4-gd .. the debian/rules file should have everything you need to change |
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| 22:44.45 | Wyzard | |sparr|: It may not be easy to load just a subset of an image from its native on-disk format though |
| 22:45.02 | ma3x | inteligent girls go to museum and libraries during their holidays? |
| 22:45.06 | ma3x | geez, they must be ugly! |
| 22:45.08 | ufoalien | eeyore-: ufo/aliens are very interesting ;) |
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| 22:45.32 | Wyzard | |sparr|: GIMP handles large images by splitting the raw bitmap into chunks, storing the chunks in a "scratch" file, and loading only the chunks currently in active use |
| 22:45.33 | ufoalien | ma3x: exactly, that's what I search, ugly, intelligent girls in my age |
| 22:45.38 | streuner_ | ufoalien: most girls wanna have fun ;-) |
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| 22:45.50 | th3g1z | anyone reccomend a good defrag program? and maybe an antivirus program also |
| 22:45.54 | Wyzard | |sparr|: But it still has to load the whole original image file to produce the chunks |
| 22:46.01 | ufoalien | streuner_: i don't want these girl |
| 22:46.04 | ufoalien | girls |
| 22:46.07 | ma3x | ufoalien: what for, are you so old? |
| 22:46.08 | Wyzard | th3g1z: There's a defrag tool for ext2, but don't use it on ext3 |
| 22:46.13 | Jaak | defrag? thats like so 1995 |
| 22:46.19 | eeyore- | ma3x: reminds you of the old joke ... Guys: single, intelligent, good hygiene, pick any two |
| 22:46.20 | ufoalien | ma3x: no, i'm 16 |
| 22:46.26 | ma3x | you need them to get you a cup of watter |
| 22:46.36 | streuner_ | ufoalien: not accepting life is stupid... |
| 22:46.40 | |sparr| | Wyzard: does the gimp offer a way to save the image in that chunk-ified format? |
| 22:46.42 | Wyzard | th3g1z: I've heard that reiser4 has a sort of defrag daemon which can run continously in the background |
| 22:46.54 | th3g1z | cool, i will look into that.. thanks |
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| 22:47.03 | cureless | ufoalien, maybe they hang out in #debian when you're not around. |
| 22:47.03 | ma3x | ufoalien : but why u lookin for ugly? |
| 22:47.15 | Wyzard | |sparr|: Not that I know of |
| 22:47.27 | ma3x | streuner_ : what do you mean not accepting life? |
| 22:47.35 | ma3x | that's a broad concept |
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| 22:47.49 | eeyore- | ufoalien: go out, go have fun :-p you're 16, what do you care? |
| 22:47.51 | ma3x | heh, why are there no debian girls? |
| 22:47.52 | ufoalien | ma3x: because i'll never have any success with cute ones |
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| 22:47.58 | ma3x | at least i havent seen any |
| 22:48.06 | ma3x | there are so many freebsd gurlies |
| 22:48.07 | Downix | I know at least 1 |
| 22:48.13 | ufoalien | eeyore-: not really! |
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| 22:48.27 | |sparr| | i gave up two of my swap partitions to install windows :( |
| 22:48.35 | ma3x | ufoalien : are you crazy? they die to be with a handsome guys |
| 22:48.36 | streuner_ | Wyzard: there is little at least for those girls ;-) |
| 22:48.37 | ufoalien | Wyzard: forget the ubuntu-girl, take the gentoo one! |
| 22:48.46 | streuner_ | Wyzard: hope* |
| 22:48.47 | ufoalien | ma3x: lol |
| 22:48.59 | cureless | most of the linux girls I know run redhat/fedora. :-S |
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| 22:49.04 | ma3x | dpkg tell ufoalien about lol |
| 22:49.29 | thingfish | I don't know any girls, linux-using or otherwise. |
| 22:49.34 | ufoalien | cureless: yeah, girls like hats! |
| 22:49.40 | abrotman | thingfish: maybe cause .. YOU"RE A FISH! |
| 22:49.45 | |sparr| | unrar cant check the crc of a file, to verify the password, until after its decompressed. wouldnt it make sense for it to unpack the smallest available file first to check? |
| 22:49.49 | ma3x | there are no beautiful linux girls |
| 22:49.58 | weilawei | ma3x, BS. |
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| 22:50.05 | ma3x | weilawei what's BS? |
| 22:50.11 | Jaak | bullshit |
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| 22:50.17 | weilawei | bullshit. i'm dating a beautiful debian using girl. |
| 22:50.18 | abrotman | could .. we stop the girl talk ? |
| 22:50.20 | streuner_ | ma3x: you know every girl who using linux? |
| 22:50.26 | weilawei | abrotman, uncomfortable? |
| 22:50.26 | papapep | RvGaTe, you can do it also by putting a conf file under /etc/apache2/conf.d and you can redirect to wherever you want from the fs (with previous right permissions, of course...) |
| 22:50.33 | jcole | streuner_: i do |
| 22:50.38 | ufoalien | ma3x: that's the problem I'm not handsome! |
| 22:50.38 | streuner_ | bah |
| 22:50.38 | abrotman | weilawei: only because i'm naked and using a laptop |
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| 22:50.55 | ma3x | streuner_ : come on, i mean be serious! nice girls never use linux |
| 22:50.58 | Jaak | ¬_¬ |
| 22:50.58 | eeyore- | ufoalien: you're not missing an eye or half a nose, right? |
| 22:50.59 | RvGaTe | papapep: nah, i dont want any redirection, editing the default config worked just fine... thx tho.. |
| 22:51.00 | ma3x | they're too stupid for windows |
| 22:51.01 | abrotman | weilawei: no . it's actually kind of rude |
| 22:51.09 | ma3x | and lets not talk about using linux |
| 22:51.11 | eeyore- | ufoalien: still has > 90% of your teeth, right? |
| 22:51.13 | weilawei | abrotman, well then we will stop it merely for the sake of your private parts |
| 22:51.15 | jcole | ma3x: don't talk about my mom |
| 22:51.22 | cureless | ma3x, you seem to have "strinct" requirement for girls. |
| 22:51.23 | streuner_ | ma3x: tell that debian women .... |
| 22:51.36 | ma3x | streuner_ : point me one with a photo online! |
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| 22:51.39 | ufoalien | eeyore-: 100% of teeth, long hair, ugly face, and completely shy |
| 22:51.52 | cureless | ma3x, look at the gnomemeeting screenshots |
| 22:51.57 | RvGaTe | this damn webserver thingy is all going shit, hehe |
| 22:52.03 | ma3x | jcole : your mom is your mom, she's a woman. |
| 22:52.08 | eeyore- | ufoalien: you keep this up and lots of 40-something-men-with-balding-hair will want to pretend they're hot, tight, 16-yr girls :-p |
| 22:52.08 | thingfish | everybody has at least one beautiful body part. |
| 22:52.15 | ma3x | cureless: url? |
| 22:52.30 | cureless | ma3x, google gnomemeeting screenshots |
| 22:52.38 | ufoalien | eeyore-: :D |
| 22:52.41 | papapep | RvGaTe, it works very fine, but setting it up is a little tricky after being used to 1.3 ... |
| 22:53.02 | RvGaTe | im not used to anything tho... hehe |
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| 22:53.29 | abrotman | RvGaTe: shit webserver? .. IIS ? .. wrong channel? :) |
| 22:53.35 | RvGaTe | just having troubles with php to get working |
| 22:53.42 | eeyore- | IIS? |
| 22:53.44 | ma3x | http://www.gnomemeeting.org/screenshots/ The requested URL /screenshots/ was not found on this server. |
| 22:53.55 | eeyore- | why in the heck would someone ask about IIS here? |
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| 22:53.59 | abrotman | RvGaTe: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 .. or some such thing |
| 22:54.06 | ufoalien | eeyore-: and this one is too dumb http://ufoalien.bug.ch/pict0001.jpg |
| 22:54.06 | RvGaTe | shut your mouth, and clean it, now... *puke *puke @ iss |
| 22:54.12 | streuner_ | eeyore-: troll or stupid |
| 22:54.14 | pipeline | eeyore-: They're running it in wine :P |
| 22:54.28 | pureone | hahha |
| 22:54.35 | papapep | there was a trap about php in apache2.... |
| 22:54.39 | aaronlin | Does Debian have a tool that will automatically configure my soundcard? |
| 22:54.40 | papapep | let me see..... |
| 22:54.40 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 22:55.02 | ma3x | aaronlin : alsaconfig |
| 22:55.04 | Downix | soundcard? |
| 22:55.05 | jcole | aaronlin: vi |
| 22:55.05 | Downix | 8) |
| 22:55.13 | abrotman | aaronlin: discover |
| 22:55.25 | RvGaTe | Your apache2 configuration is broken, so we're not restarting it for you. |
| 22:55.26 | ufoalien | RvGaTe: i've written a program for that: ./puke --wide --angle=180° --mode=carousel --target=table |
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| 22:55.29 | RvGaTe | ^ hurray ! |
| 22:55.30 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 22:55.30 | Downix | I wish that someone could make a video editor for Linux that was easier to use than Vegas |
| 22:55.33 | eeyore- | ufoalien: well, she's cute ... might grow some personality / brain later on. you never know :-) |
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| 22:55.43 | aaronlin | jcole: funny |
| 22:55.43 | Whisky_ | !ping |
| 22:55.44 | dpkg | pong |
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| 22:55.55 | eeyore- | Downix: Kino? |
| 22:56.00 | ma3x | how do i access the gnome screenshots? |
| 22:56.07 | ma3x | the link seems to be broken :( |
| 22:56.10 | eeyore- | ma3x: www.gnome-look.org |
| 22:56.17 | jcole | !tell aaronlin about alsa |
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| 22:56.25 | |sparr| | ill probably try gnome again in a few months |
| 22:56.26 | Downix | eeyore: doesn't handle big projects well |
| 22:56.44 | abrotman | aaronlin: discover + alsa |
| 22:56.45 | |sparr| | gnome and kde are a perfect example of productive competitio |
| 22:56.58 | aaronlin | ok, sounds good |
| 22:57.00 | enveezee | this girl sings a song called "breezy" and I dont think she knows what it means |
| 22:57.12 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 22:57.16 | streuner_ | good ... |
| 22:57.45 | abrotman | enveezee: liquor ? |
| 22:57.47 | ma3x | can you guys resolve ns1 and ns2.sunrise.ch for me please? |
| 22:57.51 | enveezee | she sings "You're a dumpoff, I'm his breezy." and also "He says he loves me, calls me his breezy" |
| 22:58.10 | streuner_ | dpkg, dns ns1.sunrise.ch |
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| 22:58.19 | ma3x | they're suddenly gone from my /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:58.19 | enveezee | breezy is a term for a girl that is easy to sleep with.. its not really something a girl should be proud of I dont think |
| 22:58.20 | ma3x | dpkg seems not to function |
| 22:58.29 | streuner_ | or wrong command |
| 22:58.41 | Downix | eeyore: Give Kino another year or two, it might be up to snuff. As/is, Vegas is still in the lead. |
| 22:58.41 | ma3x | dpkg resolv ns1.sunrise.ch |
| 22:58.42 | RvGaTe | abrotman: http://pc.rvgate.nl/ <- thank you, working now |
| 22:58.47 | ma3x | dpkg host ns1.sunrise.ch |
| 22:58.52 | abrotman | RvGaTe: yay |
| 22:58.56 | ma3x | shit, notin |
| 22:59.08 | abrotman | ma3x: he had that removed |
| 22:59.11 | abrotman | labotomy |
| 22:59.16 | eeyore- | enveezee: ah. try engrish.com for more language-related laughs |
| 22:59.16 | ma3x | ooooooooo lord please resolv me |
| 22:59.28 | enveezee | abrotman: you like the way yinzers say yagermiester? |
| 22:59.30 | enveezee | heh |
| 22:59.43 | ma3x | abrotman : i command you nslookup ns1.sunrise.ch |
| 22:59.47 | enveezee | like I would waste my time typing a J and an A with a : on top.. heh |
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| 22:59.50 | ma3x | :sss |
| 23:00.02 | aaronlin | Should I install alsaplayer? |
| 23:00.06 | Jaak | no |
| 23:00.08 | Jaak | :) |
| 23:00.09 | ma3x | aaronlin : it sucks |
| 23:00.10 | streuner_ | ns1.sunrise.ch. 2386 IN A 193.192.227.3 |
| 23:00.25 | abrotman | enveezee: they just say booze :) |
| 23:00.26 | ma3x | god bless ya streuner! |
| 23:00.26 | streuner_ | ns2.sunrise.ch. 1093 IN A 195.141.56.5 |
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| 23:00.50 | enveezee | eeyore-: I kind of like this chic for pop music.. sounds like something kids would dance to.. but it just amuses me she is using new slang and doesnt seem to quite know what it means. |
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| 23:01.15 | abrotman | enveezee: you'll dance to anything |
| 23:01.34 | enveezee | I wouldnt dance to anything unless I was drunk and knew people wanted a laugh |
| 23:01.55 | sbk | This is an ssh question really -- is there a way to allow the local port forwarding (ie, -L port:rhost:port) to permit hosts other than the local interface to connect to the "local" port? |
| 23:02.00 | eeyore- | oh. haha. awesome product name. i should get this one to pass around. www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=club-bitch.jpg&category=Signs/Posters&date=2005-07-18 |
| 23:02.33 | streuner_ | eeyore-: hehe |
| 23:02.36 | abrotman | enveezee: it's a song |
| 23:02.37 | eeyore- | wait, i thought that was a breath mint ... |
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| 23:02.59 | eeyore- | hey, ufoalien, maybe you want to go see nice girls in this club :-) |
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| 23:03.32 | streuner_ | eeyore-: how old is your child now? |
| 23:03.33 | enveezee | and to think I was worried these Jagerbombs wouldnt taste as good if I made them myself |
| 23:03.38 | ufoalien | eeyore-: which club? |
| 23:03.54 | streuner_ | ufoalien: URL what eeyore- just posted... |
| 23:03.55 | eeyore- | streuner_: 3 6mos., and one 7mos. |
| 23:04.04 | enveezee | I saved $0.50 at the store on the redbull, so I am happy :P |
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| 23:04.05 | licued | heya |
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| 23:04.20 | eeyore- | streuner_: uh, one 3year + 6mos, and one 7mos, is what that should read |
| 23:04.25 | licued | what would you guys say is the best VPN solution? I was thinking about going OpenBSD -> Firewall -> Router |
| 23:04.28 | licued | what do you think about that? |
| 23:04.34 | ufoalien | eeyore-: :D |
| 23:04.35 | streuner_ | eeyore-: 3 years? |
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| 23:04.42 | eeyore- | streuner_: time flies |
| 23:04.48 | streuner_ | yeah |
| 23:04.52 | Tatiana_Stos | Ola |
| 23:04.57 | Tatiana_Stos | Alguum brasileiro? |
| 23:05.09 | abrotman | !pt |
| 23:05.09 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:05.19 | Tatiana_Stos | valeu |
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| 23:05.31 | eeyore- | streuner_: going to preschool now. |
| 23:05.40 | abrotman | eeyore-: debian jr. ! |
| 23:05.53 | shiyee | sbk: man ssh says -g |
| 23:05.55 | enveezee | I guess nvz finally died |
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| 23:06.08 | enveezee | he got struck by lightning |
| 23:06.15 | enveezee | poor bastard |
| 23:06.26 | sbk | shiyee: ah, thanks -- missed that |
| 23:06.36 | Amber01 | who got struck by lightning |
| 23:06.38 | eeyore- | geez. "Fat Ho Elderly Centre" (must be some Chinese centre for the elderly) |
| 23:06.47 | rob_lt | Does anyone know of a howto on forwarding x11 apps over ssh specific to debian? |
| 23:06.48 | enveezee | then when my machine rebooted I had like 8 kernels on my grub menu and couldnt remember which one to use |
| 23:06.49 | Amber01 | eeyore |
| 23:06.54 | abrotman | !tell rob_lt about sshx |
| 23:07.02 | rob_lt | thanks abrotman |
| 23:07.02 | enveezee | I hate when I am testing many kernels and forget to remove the non-working ones from the list |
| 23:07.07 | enveezee | Amber01: nvz did |
| 23:07.11 | abrotman | beer |
| 23:07.24 | enveezee | Amber01: made his pc go out and he timed out |
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| 23:07.40 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 23:07.40 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandrake is redhat. |
| 23:07.52 | cureless | pre-emptive strike |
| 23:07.52 | abrotman | SARGE: ^^ |
| 23:07.53 | Amber01 | enveezee i dont know who ur talkin 2 |
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| 23:08.04 | abrotman | cureless: no .. he keeps joining and bailing .. he can't speak |
| 23:08.04 | enveezee | Amber01: I dont know either. |
| 23:08.10 | enveezee | Amber01: who are you anyhow? |
| 23:08.11 | enveezee | heh |
| 23:08.18 | thoffland | debian isn't recoginzing my soundblaster live 24bit... can anyone help? |
| 23:08.26 | Amber01 | a new person |
| 23:08.33 | enveezee | Amber01: Amber maybe? |
| 23:08.35 | pipeline | thoffland: Keep in mind that the "SBL 24 bit" is actually an audigy |
| 23:08.35 | abrotman | learn how to speak FFS |
| 23:09.00 | Amber01 | enveezee does everyone in here have OPERA |
| 23:09.02 | cureless | thoffland, what is not being recognized? does lspci show it? |
| 23:09.13 | thoffland | pipeline: in the gstreamer, it doesn't show up, or in xmms config |
| 23:09.13 | enveezee | Amber01: no way |
| 23:09.17 | abrotman | i do |
| 23:09.21 | thoffland | cureless: let me check |
| 23:09.30 | enveezee | Amber01: why would _EVERYONE_ have opera? |
| 23:09.31 | eeyore- | firefox here |
| 23:09.37 | cureless | thoffland, you might need to setup alsa. |
| 23:09.41 | streuner_ | here too |
| 23:09.42 | Amber01 | enveezee cuz this is opera chat |
| 23:09.46 | enveezee | I use links2 most of the time.. and firefox too |
| 23:09.54 | abrotman | !moronspeak |
| 23:09.54 | dpkg | FUKN SPEK PRPLY U FKN M0R0NZ!!!!11 See <sms-over-irc> <ne1> <lol> <2> <u> <r> <k>, or see http://www.hohto.to/forums/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=17720. Adding -ies, -rama or any other puerile suffix to words also qualifies, and will entitle you to a free glass of shut the fuck up. |
| 23:09.58 | thoffland | cureless: yes, it sees it.. another new command I have to write down |
| 23:10.01 | enveezee | Amber01: oh, as an IRC client. I use Irssi |
| 23:10.14 | enveezee | Amber01: welcome to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 23:10.17 | tosh | anyone know of a decent webcam prog that can take snapshots on interval and works with philips webcams? |
| 23:10.22 | rob_lt | abrotman: thanks again, that was much easier than I anticipated |
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| 23:10.28 | enveezee | Amber01: its called freenode. has nothing at all to do with opera |
| 23:10.29 | Amber01 | enveezee what does IRC mean |
| 23:10.29 | abrotman | rob_lt: yay |
| 23:10.35 | tosh | hi abrotman |
| 23:10.38 | enveezee | Amber01: internet relay chaty |
| 23:10.41 | enveezee | chat even |
| 23:10.42 | abrotman | enveezee: convo-bo |
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| 23:10.44 | abrotman | convo-bot |
| 23:10.54 | Amber01 | enveezee I HAVE OPERAA |
| 23:10.57 | abrotman | see |
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| 23:11.07 | abrotman | it's gotta be .. |
| 23:11.08 | abrotman | :) |
| 23:11.13 | thoffland | cureless: how to configure alsa? I'm pretty sure I have all the files installed... and I removed the ESD |
| 23:11.14 | enveezee | abrotman: go sit under a eagles fan |
| 23:11.15 | abrotman | enveezee: you lose :) |
| 23:11.19 | abrotman | !phillysmite enveezee |
| 23:11.35 | cureless | thoffland, alsa doesn't conflict with ESD. |
| 23:11.57 | cureless | thoffland, try alsaconf |
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| 23:12.07 | enveezee | man I need to just take this little bottle of jager everywhere. this shit changes my mood real quick |
| 23:12.18 | abrotman | enveezee: and makes you converse with bots |
| 23:12.23 | |sparr| | what command can tell me the absolute path to a file? |
| 23:12.26 | abrotman | which |
| 23:12.33 | abrotman | oh .. for a binary |
| 23:12.39 | abrotman | locate |
| 23:12.40 | enveezee | abrotman: who is a bot, you or amber01? |
| 23:12.42 | thoffland | cureless: command not found |
| 23:12.43 | cureless | |sparr|, ls |
| 23:12.45 | abrotman | enveezee: amber |
| 23:12.49 | abrotman | or find |
| 23:12.55 | enveezee | abrotman: could have foold me.. I thought you were the bot |
| 23:12.56 | abrotman | or locate .. which what .. tons of stuff |
| 23:13.03 | abrotman | !abrotman |
| 23:13.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 23:13.06 | abrotman | see .. no bot |
| 23:13.13 | abrotman | oh crap .. stupid poll |
| 23:13.15 | cureless | thoffland, apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 23:13.20 | |sparr| | err, find and locate work, but they are kinda overkill |
| 23:13.20 | streuner_ | dpkg, factinfo abrotman |
| 23:13.20 | dpkg | abrotman -- created by pseubodot <~p-dot@pseubodot.user> at Tue Mar 29 02:07:21 2005 (119 days); it has been requested 17 times, last by abrotman, 16s ago. |
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| 23:13.24 | thoffland | cureless: i'm a complete newbie... ok, i'll do that now |
| 23:13.25 | abrotman | yay .. it's offline |
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| 23:13.28 | enveezee | abrotman: since when do bots talk about opera? thats someting only people are stupid enough to do |
| 23:13.29 | abrotman | !tell SARGE about knoppix |
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| 23:13.40 | weilawei | okay.. i've been searching google and apt for a while now.. does anyone have the faintest clue how to get the python binding for gtkmozembed? |
| 23:13.44 | mikson | im having problems with updating to kde 3.4 |
| 23:13.45 | |sparr| | abrotman: is there something less general purpose than locate? |
| 23:13.53 | abrotman | less ? |
| 23:13.56 | abrotman | what's wrong with that ? |
| 23:14.05 | mikson | i already updated to 3.3 and as far as i know i have to add new repository and there's a problem |
| 23:14.06 | streuner_ | mikson: if you have just use 3.3 |
| 23:14.08 | cureless | |sparr|, what exactly do you want? |
| 23:14.09 | weilawei | |sparr|, slocate? find? grep? |
| 23:14.13 | abrotman | enveezee: see the quit message |
| 23:14.15 | thoffland | cureless: alsa-utils is already the newest version. |
| 23:14.15 | thoffland | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. |
| 23:14.21 | streuner_ | mikson: you aren't running unstable? |
| 23:14.29 | mikson | i am |
| 23:14.34 | cureless | thoffland, and you don't have alsaconf? /usr/sbin/alsaconf? |
| 23:14.35 | streuner_ | because you have a problem then... |
| 23:14.55 | enveezee | assbot, or ashbot.// something |
| 23:14.59 | |sparr| | cureless: hmm... i want something to take relative/path/to/a/file and spit out /absolute/path/to/the/file |
| 23:14.59 | abrotman | right |
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| 23:15.20 | mikson | streuner_, why ? |
| 23:15.23 | thoffland | cureless, no, it's not in there... should I remove and reinstall it? |
| 23:15.38 | cureless | |sparr|, how about `pwd`/relative/path? |
| 23:15.44 | streuner_ | mikson: those sources working for unstable NOT for anything else... |
| 23:15.49 | enveezee | someone hung up on me |
| 23:15.56 | cureless | thoffland, what debian are you running? |
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| 23:16.01 | enveezee | which is cool, cause I didnt want to talk to anyone anyhow |
| 23:16.01 | |sparr| | cureless: hmm... ok, that would work, but id rather not have any ..'s in the middle |
| 23:16.02 | thoffland | 3.1 sarge |
| 23:16.06 | mikson | yea i added unstable but i get error file doesnt exists |
| 23:16.14 | enveezee | just thought I would be cool and answer the phone |
| 23:16.24 | mikson | thats the source im using http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 23:16.59 | thoffland | cureless, ok, i removed and reinstalled it and now i have alsaconf |
| 23:17.06 | abrotman | point him to #debian-kde |
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| 23:17.12 | sk545 | bleh, kde 3.4...like it will never make it in sid. |
| 23:17.18 | abrotman | mikala: #debian-kde |
| 23:17.20 | streuner_ | mikson: #debian-kde |
| 23:17.26 | reamtS | how do I change the hostname under macosx? if u are planning to tell me to goto #macosx, I did, those asshole enable +voice only =( |
| 23:17.29 | mikson | thx |
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| 23:17.42 | abrotman | !tell reamtS about u |
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| 23:17.46 | abrotman | reamtS: try #opendarwin |
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| 23:17.52 | reamtS | abrotman: thx |
| 23:17.56 | abrotman | !tell reamtS about thx |
| 23:18.04 | thoffland | cureless: probing legacy ISA cards ... unstable... yes? |
| 23:18.04 | weilawei | anyone know offhand of a repository that's up to date? i keep running into repositories that don't seem to be quiiiiite up to date with what debian should be |
| 23:18.14 | abrotman | weilawei: sid ? |
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| 23:18.38 | sk545 | anyone ever have troube with brightness controls not working in mplayer/xine? |
| 23:18.50 | abrotman | mplayer and xine are two different apps |
| 23:18.58 | cureless | thoffland, your card is not a legacy isa card. |
| 23:19.03 | weilawei | abrotman, well.. im using ftp.us.debian.org because the kernel.org one was vastly out of date. maybe it's just me.. but im running etch/sid mostly comfortable atm |
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| 23:19.15 | sk545 | well, neither lets me adjust brightness/hue/saturation. |
| 23:19.28 | cureless | weilawei, there has been a problem with the mirrors |
| 23:19.28 | abrotman | SARGE: YOU CANNOT SPEAK HERE |
| 23:19.38 | weilawei | cureless, i know.. that's why im asking ;) |
| 23:19.43 | thoffland | cureless, it didn't find a card, so that was the next question it asked me... it asked for a list of drivers to probe, and that's what it's doing now |
| 23:19.51 | abrotman | SARGE: if you need help with debian .. you must change your username .. your username is knoppix .. and you cannot speak |
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| 23:20.06 | Hiruko | Hi |
| 23:20.09 | sk545 | they used to let me set the brightness, but after going to xorg, i can't do it anymore. |
| 23:20.10 | cureless | thoffland, your card probably uses the emu10k1 driver |
| 23:20.27 | thoffland | cureless, apt-get install emu10k1? |
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| 23:20.35 | cureless | thoffland, no, this is an alsa config |
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| 23:20.52 | sk545 | Video attribute 'brightness' is not supported by selected vo & vd > whats that mean? |
| 23:20.56 | Hiruko | There is something wrong with my gaim install, so I'm trying to reinstall it. It is missing this package but it says the package is broken: libaspell15c2 . When I try to install that package manually, everything starts uninstalling |
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| 23:21.20 | cureless | cureless, there has to be a document explaining this somewhere, I don't know the url. But in summary to do it manually you can add a snd-emu10k1 module to /etc/modules. |
| 23:21.28 | thoffland | cureless, i started config again, "The Volume Control applet appears to ahve died unexpectedly" |
| 23:21.31 | abrotman | Hiruko: yes.. it's currently broken |
| 23:21.32 | cureless | thoffland, that was for you |
| 23:21.38 | Hiruko | aww |
| 23:21.44 | Hiruko | is there a way around that? |
| 23:21.52 | abrotman | Hiruko: uhm .. check the BTS |
| 23:21.52 | Hiruko | like a non-broken version |
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| 23:21.59 | Hiruko | BTS being.. |
| 23:22.04 | thoffland | cureless, ok I'll try that |
| 23:22.05 | abrotman | !btssmite Hiruko |
| 23:22.11 | sk545 | abrotman, any ideas? |
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| 23:22.28 | SARGE | thanks for the tip abrotman!!! |
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| 23:22.36 | abrotman | SARGE: better? |
| 23:22.36 | Hiruko | :p |
| 23:22.43 | SARGE | yes!!! |
| 23:22.44 | abrotman | sk545: brown cows rule! |
| 23:22.48 | cureless | thoffland, you can try on the fly by loading the module (modprobe snd-emu10k1) btw, you might need to check the module name is correct. |
| 23:23.15 | thoffland | cureless, ok thanks! |
| 23:23.25 | abrotman | sk545: i've no idea what that means ... query #mplayer perhaps .. or #xine ? |
| 23:23.54 | cureless | cureless, then restart your sound apps, xmms should be set to alsa sound, if you want oss sound you need to load the oss emulation drivers. |
| 23:23.58 | sk545 | abrotman, heh. thx though. Its really frustrating...i posted the problem on like three forums, and no one knows. |
| 23:24.02 | SARGE | now, does anyone now how I can download the gui for sarge? When I use apt-get install <packagename> it tells me couldnt find package |
| 23:24.13 | abrotman | sk545: ask #mplayer and #xine .. i've never seent hat |
| 23:24.17 | cureless | sk545, maybe there is an extension you need to load. |
| 23:24.19 | abrotman | SARGE: using knoppix ? |
| 23:24.25 | abrotman | SARGE: which gui do you want ? |
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| 23:24.37 | cureless | sk545, like the one you had to load for TV a while back on xfree86 |
| 23:24.43 | SARGE | no, my other computer has sarge, but i cant get the gui |
| 23:24.49 | abrotman | SARGE: which GUI ? |
| 23:25.01 | abrotman | quickly .. must start cooking :) |
| 23:25.03 | sk545 | cureless, well, xorg is a little different than xfree, no? I mean, it just copied over xfree86.config from the old installation. |
| 23:25.13 | SARGE | any...all i get whenb i boot is the shell |
| 23:25.18 | abrotman | SARGE: which do you prefer? |
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| 23:25.39 | SARGE | i dont care...i didnt know there was more than one...im new |
| 23:25.43 | SARGE | any would be great |
| 23:25.49 | SARGE | for now |
| 23:25.50 | cureless | sk545, its different, yes, but I'm saying that it might be some extension/module you might need to load for that functionality. |
| 23:25.57 | ^Willie^ | someone know howto modify the rc.d/init.d ?? |
| 23:25.59 | abrotman | SARGE: apt-get install x-window-system gnome gdm menu ... should install enough to get you started |
| 23:26.11 | cureless | ^Willie^, yes |
| 23:26.15 | abrotman | !tell ^Willie^ about update-rc.d |
| 23:26.18 | ^Willie^ | chkconfig like redhat or rc-update like gentoo did not work |
| 23:26.18 | sk545 | cureless, you mean into xorg config or mplayer/xine? |
| 23:26.19 | SARGE | thanks...i'll try that right now! |
| 23:26.33 | abrotman | !tell ^Willie^ about rcconf |
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| 23:26.45 | cureless | sk545, xorg config. BTW, I'm just guessing, but it might give you a starting point for looking for more info. |
| 23:26.54 | |sparr| | I have a script apparently written on a platform where the $0 parameter for a script reflects the absolute path to the real location of the script. On my machine $0 gives an absolute path, and doesnt resolve symlinks. Help? |
| 23:27.08 | cureless | sk545, for example, try mplayer with a different -vo, maybe xv or x11 or sdl will give different results. |
| 23:27.18 | SARGE | it tells me not availasble, but referred to by another package |
| 23:27.34 | sk545 | cureless, yeah, at this point i will try anything. |
| 23:27.51 | sk545 | cureless, yeah, i tried different -vo settings. Nothing works. |
| 23:28.01 | sk545 | is there a xorg channel? |
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| 23:28.22 | cureless | sk545, dunno, there should be. |
| 23:28.42 | glasse | cupsd wants a username and password from me.. is there a default, or do I have to set it up somewhere? |
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| 23:28.47 | sk545 | cureless, maybe its a xorg bug in debian...that could be another thing. |
| 23:28.56 | maher | glasse: root/root passwrd |
| 23:29.15 | cureless | sk545, could be, but if it is it would be a bug in the config process. |
| 23:29.52 | thoffland | cureless, alsaconf still says no pci or pnp device found |
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| 23:30.09 | cureless | thoffland, but the device is there, right? in lspci? |
| 23:30.16 | ^Willie^ | abrotman thnx |
| 23:30.19 | thoffland | cureless, yes... i dont get it |
| 23:30.29 | abrotman | np |
| 23:30.34 | cureless | thoffland, what do you get in "dmesg" after loading the module? does it give any errors? |
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| 23:30.38 | sk545 | cureless, alright. I am gonna try #mplayer first and see what they say. thx. |
| 23:30.55 | resiak | |sparr|: Firstly, the |s are really irritating to type. Secondly, #bash ? |
| 23:30.56 | cureless | sk545, no prob, let us know what you find out, and if necessary file a bug |
| 23:30.57 | ^Willie^ | but still not found whats wrong :S |
| 23:31.01 | thoffland | cureless, you mean after booting up? i dont know how to load a module |
| 23:31.09 | glasse | maher: Thanks! |
| 23:31.19 | cureless | thoffland, I told you, just run "modprobe snd-emu10k1" |
| 23:31.20 | ^Willie^ | i get some errors about a console but i don't have any since there is no video/framebuffer support |
| 23:31.29 | ^Willie^ | other point ttyS0 is not working |
| 23:31.35 | thoffland | cureless, oh, it doesn't do anything |
| 23:31.45 | resiak | \o/ |
| 23:31.55 | cureless | thoffland, what doesn't |
| 23:32.01 | SARGE | how can i get a gui for sarge? apt-get says package not found |
| 23:32.12 | abrotman | SARGE: apt-setup |
| 23:32.19 | abrotman | SARGE: apt-get install gnome x-window-system gdm |
| 23:32.19 | maher | SARGE: then tasksel |
| 23:32.25 | thoffland | cureless "modprobe snd-emu10k1" doesn't show anything, just takes me to the next command line |
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| 23:32.39 | maher | thoffland: that usually means it owrked |
| 23:32.40 | cureless | thoffland, now type "dmesg", what's the last thing you see? |
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| 23:32.58 | thoffland | cureless: Sound Blaster soundcard not found or device busy |
| 23:33.06 | SARGE | thanks! it's working now...stupid me |
| 23:33.20 | maher | thoffland: umm.. i guess it didn't work :( |
| 23:33.28 | ^Willie^ | Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 23:33.29 | cureless | thoffland, check the alsa site, they have a compatibility matrix, see what driver/module is used for your soundblaster, try loading that module. |
| 23:33.32 | ^Willie^ | some one any idea ? |
| 23:33.38 | thoffland | cureless: ok |
| 23:33.56 | resiak | ^Willie^: Hand-rolled kernel? |
| 23:34.17 | cureless | thoffland, I remember there's a family of the audigys that use a different driver. |
| 23:34.27 | ^Willie^ | yes but i don't understand the console problem |
| 23:34.36 | ^Willie^ | i have comment the tty`s |
| 23:34.40 | ^Willie^ | in inittab |
| 23:34.42 | cureless | ^Willie^, try with the debian kernel first, see if it works with that. |
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| 23:34.53 | liable | thoffland: did you also remove the oss modules? (if they were loaded) |
| 23:34.58 | ^Willie^ | noo that kernel won't work at all |
| 23:35.02 | resiak | Why not? |
| 23:35.12 | ^Willie^ | anyway it can't be a problem to use a hand compiled kernel from kernel.org |
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| 23:35.16 | caedes_ | hi! |
| 23:35.26 | resiak | Does a Debian stock kernel work? Yes/no/haven't tried. |
| 23:35.28 | cureless | but it can be a problem of a badly-configured kernel |
| 23:35.35 | ^Willie^ | else there is somthing wrong with the distro suse gentoo redhat works fine on default kernels |
| 23:35.47 | ^Willie^ | i did try the debian kernel and that won't work |
| 23:35.52 | resiak | !doesn't work |
| 23:35.53 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 23:35.56 | ^Willie^ | it is no normal pc with vga video card |
| 23:35.57 | cureless | ^Willie^, no distro uses vainilla kernels. |
| 23:36.22 | ^Willie^ | anyway it is one of the init scripts that search for an normal console |
| 23:36.47 | resiak | HOW does the stock kernel not work? |
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| 23:37.04 | welson | to create mysql' |
| 23:37.04 | ^Willie^ | it just don't support serial console and my hardware |
| 23:37.09 | fumbalah | is there an easy way to get java working with firefox |
| 23:37.13 | welson | to create mysql's debian-sys-maint with server down? |
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| 23:37.20 | maher | fumbalah: use java-package to install java |
| 23:37.24 | resiak | ^Willie^: Which hardware? |
| 23:37.27 | caedes_ | does anybody know how to package locales into a .deb? |
| 23:37.29 | Nukem | alguem fala portugues? |
| 23:37.30 | resiak | ^Willie^: DOES IT BOOT? |
| 23:37.31 | ^Willie^ | sun cobalt raq |
| 23:37.33 | ^Willie^ | NO |
| 23:37.33 | resiak | !po |
| 23:37.33 | dpkg | from memory, po is Piss Off or Post Office |
| 23:37.46 | ^Willie^ | it just load and then get stuck without any msg |
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| 23:37.54 | Nukem | i will get a kick if i speak portuguese? |
| 23:37.56 | maher | !portugese |
| 23:37.56 | dpkg | Por favor, fale em ingles quando estiver no #Debian, assim todos poderão entender. Se você quiser usar um outro idioma, entre em #debian-rs. Para ser ajudado em portugues, use o canal #Debian-BR |
| 23:38.00 | ^Willie^ | not eaven the msg of the kernel version |
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| 23:38.12 | pipeline | ^Willie^: You need special stuff to use a Cobalt... |
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| 23:38.19 | ^Willie^ | point is using of an ramdisk |
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| 23:38.32 | splattnik | !svensk |
| 23:38.41 | ix | !swedish |
| 23:38.41 | dpkg | somebody said swedish was Det finns en svenskspråkig kanal där du kan ställa dina frågor på svenska. #debian.se (There is a channel with swedish as it's main language, there you can ask questions in swedish. #debian.se) |
| 23:38.42 | resiak | Damn, it took so long to get such a straightforward answer. |
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| 23:38.43 | ^Willie^ | no cobalt is just normal ali 15xx chipset same like normal amd x86 |
| 23:38.48 | fried | hello. i just installed a prog via wine. how do i go about finding it on my hdd? |
| 23:38.55 | toresbe | ix: hej hej |
| 23:38.55 | maher | ^Willie^: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/cobalt/ <-- did you see that? |
| 23:39.03 | ix | splattnik: der har du den ;) now, english! |
| 23:39.06 | ^Willie^ | my point is there is some config in one of the init scripts calling an tty console |
| 23:39.06 | ix | !norwegian |
| 23:39.06 | dpkg | [norwegian] the language spoken in Norway, or better than swedish, or better then danish |
| 23:39.11 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Oh, an x86 cobalt. Well, then it should "just work" when you edit inittab... |
| 23:39.28 | splattnik | ix: just had to see what it said.. |
| 23:39.34 | maher | ^Willie^: sorry - that's for mips cobalt |
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| 23:39.35 | ix | aight :) |
| 23:39.36 | ^Willie^ | thats cobalt mips |
| 23:39.39 | ^Willie^ | i know |
| 23:39.46 | ix | remember, svensk på engelsk is swedish ;D |
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| 23:39.55 | pipeline | ^Willie^: What do you have in your inittab? How did you install? |
| 23:39.55 | ^Willie^ | and the debian faq i have is mabe by some dunno not thinking |
| 23:40.06 | ^Willie^ | disable the normal tty`s |
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| 23:40.26 | ^Willie^ | set S0:12345:blabla getty 115200 ttyS0 vt100 |
| 23:40.28 | pipeline | ^Willie^: The normal ttys are virtuals. You can't use those for anything anyway. |
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| 23:40.44 | maher | ^Willie^: http://cobalt.iceblink.org/kernel/debian/debian-cobalt-howto.txt |
| 23:40.47 | ^Willie^ | normal tty`s are for the alt+ Fkey consoles |
| 23:40.57 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Yes, virtuals. |
| 23:41.10 | ^Willie^ | yes so i set them of and still is it searching for an console |
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| 23:41.21 | ^Willie^ | it need to detect the ttyS0 |
| 23:41.32 | transgre1s | how's sid running these days |
| 23:41.44 | abrotman | like a 2 legged dog |
| 23:41.44 | pipeline | ^Willie^: I don't think you're using the right boot arguments.... |
| 23:41.56 | ^Willie^ | dman no ttySx in /dev :S |
| 23:42.01 | resiak | \o/ |
| 23:42.04 | ^Willie^ | boot args are fine |
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| 23:42.25 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Well, first off, if you want boot messages on serial console, you need a console=foo boot argument to tell it so, so it's hardly unsurprising that you see nothing, not even a kernel version. |
| 23:42.29 | ^Willie^ | lcd and stuff like that works |
| 23:42.33 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Secondly, something looks fishy about that inittab line. |
| 23:42.42 | ^Willie^ | i did use the gentoo ebuilds and compiled them on debian |
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| 23:43.18 | ^Willie^ | pipeline no hard feelings but i'm not an noob |
| 23:43.19 | pipeline | ^Willie^: What the fuck. No. |
| 23:43.24 | nnns | hi, how can I launch debian from grub? I use kernel /vmlinuz but when I try root /dev/hdb1 it say that it is an invalid device string, so even if I try boot it shows me an error from the kernel related to the root, so how can I do? |
| 23:43.32 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Use gentoo ebuilds on debian? What the fuck were you thinking? |
| 23:43.37 | maher | ^Willie^: have fun! |
| 23:43.39 | pipeline | ^Willie^: And that inittab line is definitely screwed up. |
| 23:43.45 | pipeline | ^Willie^: S0 can't be right. |
| 23:43.47 | ^Willie^ | but moment gona look my kernel again anyway udev is not working yet it stull use old devfs |
| 23:44.02 | fried | help! how do i find my apps installed by wine! |
| 23:44.05 | ^Willie^ | pipeline the are default universal ebuilds |
| 23:44.16 | ^Willie^ | patches for the kernel and lcd controll commands |
| 23:44.18 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Ebuilds are gentoo bullshit. There's nothing "default" or "universal" |
| 23:44.21 | abrotman | fried: SOLUTION .. where you put them |
| 23:44.24 | ^Willie^ | work on redhat gentoo debian suse |
| 23:44.34 | pipeline | ^Willie^: Oh, and you patched your kernel. Brilliant. I think I'll just leave you well enough alone. Kthxbai. |
| 23:44.55 | ^Willie^ | it don't mather i don't want any discusions about this since all debian users with cobalt belive the lcd won't work here it work |
| 23:45.07 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:45.07 | dpkg | from memory, ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 23:45.10 | abrotman | read the install guide |
| 23:45.12 | abrotman | !cobalt |
| 23:45.12 | dpkg | cobalt is, like, a company that makes easy-admin machines in either qube, or 1u rack sizes ... also gave out great pens at LWC&E |
| 23:45.39 | pipeline | ^Willie^: What are you talking about? Cobalt LCDs have always worked, as long as I can remember. |
| 23:45.42 | nnns | somebody can help me? |
| 23:45.47 | ^Willie^ | i just want to know some stuff about debian unlogic since im use to gentoo logic |
| 23:45.47 | harleyg | my debootstrap system, i cant boot it, it starts then reaches the eth0 part, and it cant find the drivers or whatever, then it carrys on and freezes when loading foo.... what do i need to copy from my current hd to make my debootstrap system boot :D |
| 23:45.56 | ^Willie^ | :S |
| 23:46.06 | ^Willie^ | the faq`s i did reed tell not |
| 23:46.14 | pipeline | harleyg: Freezes when loading what? |
| 23:46.15 | abrotman | ^Willie^: if you don't like debian . .don't use it .. we're not forcing you to .. and apparently you don't work well with debian |
| 23:46.19 | ^Willie^ | and there is no debian package for the lcd anyway |
| 23:46.35 | ^Willie^ | no i just want to know something about the init rd |
| 23:46.38 | ^Willie^ | rc* |
| 23:46.56 | ^Willie^ | and not discusions about what some one else think about it just info nothing more |
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| 23:47.14 | harleyg | pipline: the last thing, before it was stuck on cron, for that was the last thing, so i removed it then tried again now it just gets stuck on the one before cron |
| 23:47.14 | ^Willie^ | if i port/recompile gentoo tarballs and the work then i'm happy |
| 23:47.16 | maher | ^Willie^: /etc/init.d/README |
| 23:48.01 | sk545 | anyone know how to generate a new xorg.conf in debian sid? |
| 23:48.06 | ^Willie^ | menu`s and lcd work now only the boot errors about some console that is not there are annoying |
| 23:48.11 | pipeline | harleyg: That's not very helpful. you'll have to be more specific :( |
| 23:48.13 | abrotman | ^Willie^: you are either a complete moron . .or a troll |
| 23:48.24 | maher | harleyg: did you install the same kernel in the debootstrap as on the original install? |
| 23:48.25 | pipeline | abrotman: I don't think he's a troll. |
| 23:48.34 | paulswm | abrotman: or *both* |
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| 23:48.56 | harleyg | maher: no, i installed and compied the latest kernel myself, using the config file of the current distro i use |
| 23:49.00 | ^Willie^ | abrotman if you don't like gentoo your problem ok |
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| 23:49.07 | maher | sk545: dpkg-reconfigure xserevr-xorg |
| 23:49.18 | ^Willie^ | debian works only don't have own patches and packages so i port them my self |
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| 23:49.22 | sk545 | alright, thx maher |
| 23:49.26 | maher | harleyg: see if it works with a standard debian kernel |
| 23:49.49 | exobyte | offhand, does anyone know of a ftp client with a pretty gui? |
| 23:49.54 | harleyg | what kernel is that? |
| 23:50.04 | harleyg | do i remove the current one |
| 23:50.06 | abrotman | ^Willie^: you're screwing up debian with gentoo shit .. and i have a problem .. what kind of fucktard are you? |
| 23:50.12 | maher | harleyg: what ever one is current for the distro you are using |
| 23:50.12 | harleyg | and do apt-cache search debian kernel? |
| 23:50.24 | harleyg | the current distro = kanotix |
| 23:50.27 | harleyg | it uses a kanotix kernel |
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| 23:50.29 | ^Willie^ | abrotman let say this way supply support packages else i make them my self |
| 23:50.45 | harleyg | so i got linux-2.6.12.3 |
| 23:50.46 | ^Willie^ | it is open source so don't get mad if ppl make support better then it is |
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| 23:50.48 | abrotman | !d-i ^Willie^ |
| 23:50.49 | dpkg | ^Willie^, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:50.51 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:50.51 | dpkg | [ig] for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
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| 23:50.56 | harleyg | using the kanotix kernel config |
| 23:50.57 | abrotman | ^Willie^: ^^ |
| 23:51.08 | apokryphos | Hi, what can I use to remove all packages that a particular metapackage brings in? |
| 23:51.10 | abrotman | ^Willie^: if you can't read .. that's not my problem .. don't be such a freaking helpless user |
| 23:51.18 | ^Willie^ | :S |
| 23:51.24 | ^Willie^ | no comment |
| 23:51.27 | maher | harleyg: kanotix is not debian - did you debootstrap install debian or kanotix? |
| 23:51.27 | abrotman | right ... |
| 23:51.29 | abrotman | i thought so |
| 23:51.35 | medvidek | how can i set limit rate for apt-get? |
| 23:51.41 | abrotman | medvidek: trickle |
| 23:51.58 | harleyg | maher: what? ya mean what type? i gots sarge |
| 23:52.13 | harleyg | maher: i didnt do debootstrap install lol |
| 23:52.18 | medvidek | abrotman: thx |
| 23:52.49 | apokryphos | what can I use to remove all packages that a particular metapackage brings in? |
| 23:52.56 | abrotman | apokryphos: deborphan might help you ... |
| 23:53.03 | apokryphos | thanks |
| 23:53.23 | maher | harleyg: <harleyg> my debootstrap system, i cant boot it, <--- what am it meant to think? |
| 23:53.37 | maher | harleyg: s/it/I/ |
| 23:54.06 | harleyg | maher: i have a kernel, it boots mostly, just 1 doesnt find the network card and 2 stops when loading things |
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| 23:54.38 | maher | harleyg: if you are on sarge try the most recent sarge kernel - apt-cache search kernel-image will give you a list |
| 23:54.46 | harleyg | ok |
| 23:54.54 | apokryphos | abrotman: nah, wouldn't help. I can easily get a list of all the ones, just thought there may be a quicker way |
| 23:55.03 | apokryphos | abrotman: plus, many of these have many depends |
| 23:55.03 | harleyg | ok cool thanks maher ;) |
| 23:55.09 | abrotman | apokryphos: oh .. there is |
| 23:55.15 | abrotman | apokryphos: if you have a list |
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| 23:55.39 | apokryphos | abrotman: well, vaguely. The package depends on a *few* things that I'd like to keep |
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| 23:55.46 | apokryphos | abrotman: and actually, a few I'm not sure of |
| 23:55.49 | abrotman | apokryphos: use at your own risk .. put packages in a file .. one per line ... cat <file> | xargs apt-get --purge -y remove |
| 23:56.01 | dbernar1 | Hi, when I connect to my home server with ssh -X bla@bla and I type in for example gedit, and hit enter, I get (gedit:20974): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 23:56.27 | maher | dbernar1: do you have xforwardingin sshd_config |
| 23:56.30 | apokryphos | abrotman: yeah, could be problematic. For example, I want to remove everything that kdepim pulls in, except of course kdebase/libs -- i.e. only things in kdepim suite |
| 23:56.51 | abrotman | apokryphos: well .. if you can make the list .. there you go |
| 23:56.59 | harleyg | maher: im getting kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386, but will i have to config it? |
| 23:57.04 | apokryphos | abrotman: ok, thanks. =) |
| 23:57.21 | maher | harleyg: no - install hotplug as well i f you don't have it |
| 23:57.26 | harleyg | ok |
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| 23:58.40 | harleyg | maher: Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 23:58.40 | harleyg | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.40 | harleyg | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 23:59.29 | harleyg | ok guys gota go |
| 23:59.31 | harleyg | thanks maher |
| 23:59.32 | harleyg | cya |
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