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| 00:00.52 | tkinias | directhex, hmm... I've always had to load usb-storage manually; discover prevents my laptop from booting (don't remember what the problem was... but I had to kill discover to get things working when I got this one a year ago) |
| 00:01.00 | mentor | What's wrong with a Lego USB Tower? |
| 00:01.24 | neiljp | mentor: nothing wrong, just mildly amusing :) |
| 00:01.30 | Jim__ | sigh, lol does anyone know what to do to get nautalus to read cdrws |
| 00:01.34 | Nosf3ratu | stew, I figured it out; thanks! |
| 00:01.54 | stew | welocme |
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| 00:06.15 | user01 | is there something i need to install to get dao working? it says it is not supported... |
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| 00:06.49 | valdyn_ | !it |
| 00:07.00 | user01 | xcdroast says that |
| 00:07.00 | hmakholm | !idw |
| 00:07.00 | dpkg | [idw] The phrase "it doesn't work" is not allowed on this channel. Please explain what you did, then tell us what happened, then explain how this differed from your expectations. see 'doesn't work' |
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| 00:07.29 | _joey | stew what was the name of doc file to build .deb package? |
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| 00:10.44 | user01 | cdrecord says sao not supported |
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| 00:15.21 | |Blaze| | On average, how long does it take for a debian kernel package to come out after a new kernel has been released on kernel.org? |
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| 00:16.57 | user01 | so do i need to change something about cdrecord? |
| 00:17.06 | valdyn_ | user01: try cdrecord -checkdrive -dev=/dev/cdrom ( or whatever your burning device is ). What does it list for "Supported modes:" ? |
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| 00:17.33 | nutshell42 | hi, I need a gui for sqlite dbs. AFAIK there are: rekall (GPLed for half a year or so, scheduled for unstable in 2008 and for stable on time for the next millennium), knoda (the first version with sqlite support was released 2 months ago, unfortunatly the unstable pkg is 6 months old), kexi (in unstable, working, unfortunatly it uses its own implementation and afaik there's no conversion utility available at this time), openoffice (afa |
| 00:17.33 | nutshell42 | ik there's no debian package of the sqlite plugin), gnome-db (afaik the packages in unstable don't support sqlite) - now, does anyone know if I'm just to stupid and there *is* a gui or which of the aforementioned guis are good enough that it's worth the troubles of compiling it from source, TIA |
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| 00:18.39 | polm | I need to recompile the "snort" program to apply a patch to the snort code. I have retreived the code via "apt-get source snort" , and I have applied my patches. What is the Debian way to install this newly compiled snort so that it is registered via apt-get ? |
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| 00:18.46 | user01 | valdyn_: only shows my dvd drive |
| 00:19.00 | bradfed | what is the quickest way to reconfigure a debian package that has already been configured |
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| 00:19.12 | nutshell42 | bradfed: dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 00:19.21 | valdyn_ | user01: replace /dev/cdrom with whatever your burning device is.. |
| 00:19.24 | bradfed | thanks man, |
| 00:19.26 | directhex | bradfed, dpkg-reconfigure foopackage |
| 00:19.28 | bradfed | polm what's up |
| 00:19.30 | segfault2k | hi |
| 00:19.35 | now3d__ | Hi, I wonder if someone could tell me if nForce2 chipset is comparatively high-end? compared to VIA KT880 etc |
| 00:19.37 | user01 | cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI shows it |
| 00:19.39 | segfault2k | someone know what is the font used in the debian logo? |
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| 00:19.47 | KirbyMeister | dpkg-reconfigure dpkg-reconfigure didnt work |
| 00:19.51 | polm | bradfed: lol, funny seeing you here. |
| 00:19.54 | KirbyMeister | :P |
| 00:20.17 | bradfed | polm: yea it's funny |
| 00:20.18 | polm | bradfed: did you see that SnortSam link I sent you ? |
| 00:20.38 | npx | Hey guys, I'm trying to get a half-decent machine together for ~$150 (I've got a monitor, kb and mouse) for my nephew - anyone know of any US sites with deals on older (I'm thinking ~1.2ghz) barebones athlon/celeron machines? |
| 00:20.51 | user01 | valdyn_: sorry replace it where? /dev/cdrom ? |
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| 00:20.58 | bradfed | polm: not yet, are trying to get all that going now |
| 00:21.02 | polm | bradfed: I'm trying to patch snort to get the "IPS" functionality. |
| 00:21.11 | segfault2k | npx, sempron is cheap |
| 00:21.21 | now3d__ | anyone know if nvidia SoundStorm Dolby Digital Audio is supported by linux kernel? |
| 00:21.32 | polm | bradfed: I don't think I'm gonna get an answer to my question here, either. |
| 00:21.36 | valdyn_ | user01: try cdrecord -checkdrive -dev=/dev/cdrom ( or whatever your burning device is ). What does it list for "Supported modes:" ? |
| 00:21.38 | bradfed | polm: are you using that honeypot cd? |
| 00:21.40 | directhex | now3d__, the dolby encoding is only supported by nvidia's closed source OSS driver |
| 00:21.47 | npx | segfault2k: Yeah I hadn't really looked into those - was under the impression they were for laptops |
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| 00:21.50 | directhex | now3d__, generally, it's supported as an intel 810 device |
| 00:21.54 | polm | bradfed: nah, I'm just gonna build it all myself. |
| 00:22.08 | spiekey | hi |
| 00:22.08 | directhex | now3d__, nvidia's driver is HORRIBLY unstable |
| 00:22.18 | spiekey | is anyone here using pam_mysql? |
| 00:22.33 | polm | bradfed: honeywall is a great "proof-of-concept" for all of the packages, though. Sebek, Snort_Inline, etc. |
| 00:22.34 | segfault2k | npx, check this: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11541,00.html |
| 00:22.36 | npx | directhex: I've experienced precisely zero crashes with it in the past year or so (I'm an avid gamer) |
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| 00:22.49 | bradfed | polm: i will talk to you later, im trying to get mysql to work with snort |
| 00:22.50 | now3d__ | now3d__: ok, thanks for the info. I wonder if playback can be done with the intel 810 kernel module? |
| 00:22.51 | directhex | npx, with nvsound.ko ? |
| 00:23.03 | npx | directhex: maybe it's a configuration issue (I've had nvidia cards crash while gaming when the fan got filled with the infamous gray gunk) |
| 00:23.04 | polm | bradfed: still fvcking with that, huh ? |
| 00:23.22 | npx | directhex: ahh I assumed you were talking about the display drivers, sorry |
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| 00:23.27 | user01 | valdyn_: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R |
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| 00:23.37 | bradfed | polm: i havent looked at it in couple of days, haha |
| 00:24.07 | directhex | now3d, regular analog sound just works with alsa or oss using the supplied kernel modules |
| 00:24.28 | user01 | valdyn_: just a sec brb... |
| 00:24.44 | now3d | directhex: Ok, thats fine for me. thanks :) |
| 00:24.50 | now3d | directhex: do you know how well the nvidia nForce2 chipset compares please? |
| 00:25.15 | directhex | now3d, compares against what, in what cpontext? |
| 00:25.32 | spiekey | ok...maybe the problem is not really pam_mysql related.... |
| 00:25.40 | segfault2k | A commercial font that can be |
| 00:25.41 | segfault2k | bought from Berthold for 99$ |
| 00:25.43 | segfault2k | !! |
| 00:25.43 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:25.45 | segfault2k | what irony |
| 00:25.50 | segfault2k | debian is open source free |
| 00:25.51 | spiekey | i can su ir id a user, but i can not ssh into my box using that user... |
| 00:25.56 | segfault2k | and the font used in the logo is comercial |
| 00:25.57 | segfault2k | "·&·/""/ |
| 00:26.01 | npx | now3d: I've had the best luck with VIA mainboards, AMD procs, and Nvidia graphics cards. |
| 00:26.03 | spiekey | ...so i guess nss works, but pam doesnt. |
| 00:26.09 | now3d | directhex: hmm, i was also considering VIA KT880 and VIA KT600 chipsets.. |
| 00:26.14 | Nosf3ratu | So if I'm unfortunate enough to have an old sound card that will not allow multiple audio streams ...what solution(s) is there? |
| 00:26.22 | npx | Nosf3ratu: sb live 5.1 baby |
| 00:26.27 | directhex | now3d, nforce2 is the best socket a chipset available for performance |
| 00:26.33 | mwilson | segfault2k: So? |
| 00:26.34 | now3d | npx: ok, that sounds like a good combination. |
| 00:26.37 | Nosf3ratu | I could pipe everything through arts, or similar, but I'm having issues with its sound quality atm. |
| 00:26.38 | spiekey | ....if i enter my password, pam ( i think its pam) queries for a password in the mysql table, and gets it successfully. |
| 00:26.43 | directhex | Nosf3ratu, alsa plus dmix |
| 00:26.43 | Nosf3ratu | npx, can't install one in a laptop. |
| 00:26.51 | segfault2k | mwilson, nothing, only a irony |
| 00:26.53 | spiekey | ...BUT, syslog says it doesnt know the user!? |
| 00:26.53 | npx | alsa plus dmix = headache, lol |
| 00:27.03 | directhex | npx, works fine here |
| 00:27.08 | npx | but if you have no alternatives, well... |
| 00:27.09 | mwilson | segfault2k: How is it an irony? |
| 00:27.26 | Nosf3ratu | directhex, will dmix allow non-arts-aware applications to use the card? |
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| 00:27.30 | Nosf3ratu | e.g. flash web pages, etc? |
| 00:27.32 | now3d | directhex: ok, do I need the nvidia proprietary kernel modules to make the most of this chipset etc? I am planning on also getting an AGP 8x nvidia GeForce 5900 128MB VRAM as well btw.. |
| 00:27.37 | mwilson | Oh, let me guess... you're another idiot that thinks they shouldn't have to pay for things. |
| 00:27.41 | npx | directhex: I was referring to getting it working...I gave up |
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| 00:27.58 | npx | now3d: The open source nvidia drivers don't support 3D, but they're great for 2D. |
| 00:28.08 | directhex | Nosf3ratu, the apps need to be alsa 0.9 aware, or be compatible with aoss. flash isn't. |
| 00:28.16 | npx | Also, if you want to do dual-out on a single nvidia card, only the proprietary drivers support that afaik. |
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| 00:28.27 | directhex | now3d, you really need the nvidia 3d driver if you want anythying along the lines of '3d' |
| 00:28.37 | now3d | npx: ah. Hmm.. i wonder if i should stoop to the level of using their proprietary kernel modules.. |
| 00:28.41 | segfault2k | mwilson, the only idiot here is you MF |
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| 00:29.02 | directhex | now3d, depends whether you ever want to render a polygon |
| 00:29.08 | Jim__ | i'm trying to setup cdrecord but keep getting cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 00:29.15 | now3d | directhex: I want to play Half Life2 .. |
| 00:29.33 | Jim__ | i can use mount and ls /dev/cdrom though |
| 00:29.36 | npx | When I was using my onboard AC97 driver, I used artsd and artsdsp -m 'program' to launch apps that needed OSS and different frequencies (my shitty card only support 44.1 or 48khz, I forget which) |
| 00:29.50 | Jim__ | any suggestions? |
| 00:29.54 | now3d | directhex: I used nvidia drivers before, on my geforce2 card, but that's bust.. and i thought it would be nice to get a new mobo+gfx card now my kit is so old.. |
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| 00:30.06 | directhex | npx, i've only ever needed that for quake 2, which is fixed in the current version |
| 00:30.42 | directhex | now3d, your choice, but you will never run a 3d game under linux correctly without nvidia's 3d driver |
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| 00:31.13 | Jaspert | /var/www is populated with a dir "mainserver" as well as several of my domains. Did I set that up manually (it's been a while since I looked at this box to finish it up) or did it happen automatically? |
| 00:31.26 | npx | now3d: if you're buying an nvidia card to play hl2 and you don't want (good) proprietary drivers, why not get an ATI card? |
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| 00:31.40 | now3d | directhex: ok, i'll get nvidia's drivers.. do you recomend nforce2 over via kt880 ? I read that the performance was comparable.. |
| 00:33.04 | Jasper | (by as well as several of my domains, I mean several directories with the FQDNs including www of a few of the domains that I would like to eventually do virtualhosting for but as of yet haven't set that up for |
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| 00:33.04 | npx | If it were me, I'd go VIA. Good open source drivers to be had. |
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| 00:33.04 | now3d | npx: ati drivers sucked massively last time i tried them.. |
| 00:33.04 | dedikerad | my swedish keyboard layout works in gnome but not in gnome-terminal. what can be wrong? |
| 00:33.04 | directhex | now3d, i've no experience with kt880. |
| 00:33.04 | npx | now3d: not much has changed. |
| 00:33.04 | now3d | dedikerad: load your keymap in your config |
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| 00:33.08 | dedikerad | now3d, how? |
| 00:33.13 | now3d | dedikerad: term uses different input system to X |
| 00:33.27 | npx | nvidia's drivers are one of the easiest-to-install cross-distribution pieces of software I've ever seen, and they 'just work' - even on FreeBSD. I couldn't be happier with them. |
| 00:33.28 | directhex | npx, no card will run half life 2 without properietary drivers, and not much will run with ati's driver |
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| 00:34.07 | npx | directhex: not arguing that, was just trying to point out that buying a badass geforce and not running nvidia's drivers is sorta shooting yourself in the foot |
| 00:34.09 | npx | but hey, it's not my money... |
| 00:34.14 | valdyn_ | Jim__: 2.4.x or 2.6.x kernel? which command are you using to burn |
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| 00:34.45 | dedikerad | now3d, i do not know how to do that |
| 00:34.52 | now3d | dedikerad: hmm i forgot the command, loadkeys or something.. |
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| 00:35.20 | Bizarro_paco | hi...how is everyone? |
| 00:35.32 | now3d | Bizarro_paco: fine ;) |
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| 00:36.20 | CSWookie | What is the proper way for me to say the 192.168.1 network? I can't rememebr what number would go after the slash. |
| 00:36.26 | now3d | directhex: do you have an nforce2 chipset mobo? do you ever have any problems with it if you do? |
| 00:36.32 | The_Vulture | CSWookie: 24 |
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| 00:36.38 | CSWookie | The_Vulture: Thanks. |
| 00:36.38 | Jasper | I've got an NF2, but I don't run linux on it. |
| 00:36.39 | The_Vulture | CSWookie: the number of bits.. think about it |
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| 00:36.54 | Jasper | it's good hardware, but I can't speak to the linux drivers |
| 00:36.58 | npx | 192.168.1.0/24 =P |
| 00:37.03 | directhex | now3d, no, i have an old pentium 4 that predates nforce2. and an nforce3 at work |
| 00:37.05 | Bizarro_paco | i am trying to run gnome for the first time..i am debian sarge...i installed it successfully, but when i type "startx," it says "xinit: no such file or direcotry (errno 2); unable to connect to x server |
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| 00:37.22 | npx | directhex: I heard they gimped the sound hardware in the nforce3 - any comments? |
| 00:37.24 | Jasper | netmasks are generally a sequence of n ones followed by 32-n zeros |
| 00:37.27 | now3d | directhex: does your nforce3 work well at your work in 3d? |
| 00:37.28 | Jasper | that number's n |
| 00:37.39 | directhex | now3d, it has an ati graphics card, so no |
| 00:37.46 | CSWookie | The_Vulture: Thanks, I couldn't rememebr what the number after the slash actually meant. :-) |
| 00:38.02 | Jasper | /24 -> 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 0000 -> FF FF FF 00 -> 255.255.255.0 |
| 00:38.09 | now3d | directhex: hmm, i thought nforce2 was for the whole mobo? or is it only for agp or something? so with an ati card is it just ignored? |
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| 00:38.22 | Jasper | nforce 2 is the chipset |
| 00:38.33 | npx | Or you could just remember it's the mask for a class C network |
| 00:38.39 | npx | rote learning is fun |
| 00:38.42 | Jasper | it bridges the processort to the agp and memory buses and to the southbridge |
| 00:38.49 | KirbyMeister | 10001010111? Oh, that's gibberish. *sees reverse in mirror* oh no... |
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| 00:38.55 | Jasper | and the southbridge does soun, network, and random IO stuff |
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| 00:39.08 | directhex | now3d, nforce is a series of motherboard chipsets. other components have effect on the overall hardware. in this case, the graphics card is infinitely more important than the motherboard with relation to 3d performance |
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| 00:39.30 | directhex | KirbyMeister, your futurama is not enough |
| 00:39.40 | eibwen | I can't seem to find /dev/dsp... did I do something or did a recent upgrade opt for /dev/dspW? |
| 00:39.54 | siva | can I install the updated X version on debian? |
| 00:39.59 | directhex | eibwen, /dev/dsp should be a symlink to /dev/dsp? |
| 00:40.01 | KirbyMeister | directhex: I saw it on futurama once... nice reference to endian-ness |
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| 00:40.22 | eibwen | directhex: wouldn't that be a circular link? |
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| 00:40.44 | npx | I <3 the geek references in futurama |
| 00:40.46 | FreeMinds | someone say why after compile my kernel 2.6.8.1 (vanilla) the kernel says to me 'unable to mount root file system' i configure in xconfig ext3 & RaNDISK support but it isn't run well |
| 00:40.51 | now3d | directhex: ok, thanks for your help |
| 00:40.51 | mwilson | eibwen: Of course not. |
| 00:40.52 | directhex | eibwen, ? is a wildcard symbol for a single indeterminate character |
| 00:41.00 | now3d | npx: thanks for your help. Night guys |
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| 00:41.18 | npx | take it easy |
| 00:41.24 | directhex | KirbyMeister, i was more amused by the painting of Commodore LXIV |
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| 00:41.46 | eibwen | directhex: true, but it's hard to differentiate regex and grammatical syntax when the only character is a ? preceeding the EOL |
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| 00:41.48 | Bizarro_paco | can anyone tell me why gnome isn't working? the error is 'no such file or directory, errno 2': unable to connect to x server |
| 00:41.51 | mwilson | directhex: Don't you love all these unstable user's that're inheriting udev and can't even be bothered to pay attention to what's getting installed when they update? |
| 00:41.52 | siva | does anyone succesfully installed the newest version of X-server on debian? |
| 00:42.02 | dedikerad | look, i've tried to use dpkg-reconfigure consolde-data and xkeycaps, but my gnome-terminal and dosbox still doesn't give me the same keyboard layout as GNOME, and i don't know what i've done wrong... please hel?p |
| 00:42.30 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): do u need x-server to run gnome? |
| 00:42.41 | directhex | mwilson, udev's been pulled through into sarge if you have gnome, by the look of it. it certainly temporarily broke this machine (echo 'nvidia' >> /etc/modules fixed it) |
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| 00:42.48 | siva | i have kde on my debian |
| 00:43.07 | mwilson | directhex: Yeah, all sorts of people are doing that rather than actually bothering to fix the problem. |
| 00:43.17 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): how the heck did u get kde? did you do the apt-get instal kde? |
| 00:43.25 | davidcc6 | when i run firefox, or gdmsetup and another things an error apear GTk-WARNING .. locale not sopported bye c library, any know why this happend? |
| 00:43.28 | siva | yes |
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| 00:43.52 | mwilson | davidcc6: Oddly enough, because you don't have support for whatever locale you've selected, hence the error. Imagine that! |
| 00:43.57 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): and then what? you just did the 'startx' command from daily user? |
| 00:44.08 | directhex | mwilson, most bugs filed against udev are of the tune 'udev is broken & shit, please eviscerate painfully', with replies of 'udev r teh r0x' |
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| 00:44.43 | siva | no my X is not the updated version |
| 00:44.43 | Bizarro_paco | how do u start kde? |
| 00:44.43 | slashzul | anyone know of an app to test out a fake email relay? |
| 00:44.43 | directhex | mwilson, last time i tried to look itno udev problems, the rules file was fine, it was simply ignoring those lines & handily segfaulting. i gave up |
| 00:44.43 | mwilson | directhex: Yeah, I see lots of clueless users loading nvidia unconditionally rather than actually fixing the problem. |
| 00:44.46 | siva | I wanted to know whether I can download the tar ball from x.org and compile it? |
| 00:44.57 | davidcc6 | mwilson how i know what are the locales the i need? |
| 00:45.02 | npx | Why not load the nvidia driver unconditionally, if you have an nvidia card? |
| 00:45.02 | mwilson | siva: If you have to ask, the answer is most certainly NO. |
| 00:45.20 | siva | what is the reason? |
| 00:45.22 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): why did u choose kde or gnome? |
| 00:45.43 | slashzul | anyone know how to relay email from localhost as a user from another domain |
| 00:45.50 | mwilson | davidcc6: What locale are you trying to use? |
| 00:45.50 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): sorry..why did u choose kde over gnome? |
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| 00:46.04 | mwilson | slashzul: Somehow I don't think you're going to get spam help here. |
| 00:46.06 | siva | i like kde and I didn't have any problems with it |
| 00:46.10 | slashzul | not for spam |
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| 00:46.19 | mwilson | slashzul: Of course it's not. It never is. |
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| 00:46.25 | directhex | mwilson, largely because it's not 100% clear what & where the the solution is. loading the nvidia module is a simple effective quick fix |
| 00:46.34 | siva | I didn't get answer to my question |
| 00:46.36 | davidcc6 | mwilson i dont know, i just see that problem... in this moment i have actived en_US.ISO |
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| 00:46.57 | mwilson | davidcc6: Inventing locale names rather than using actual ones seldom works. |
| 00:46.57 | slashzul | our custom apps used a linux box to forward email error messages as user@hostxxx.org |
| 00:47.02 | Bizarro_paco | (mwilson): can you tell me why gnome isn't working? the error is: 'unable to connect to x-server (errno 2).' |
| 00:47.06 | slashzul | it now doesnt allow us to send email |
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| 00:47.30 | siva | mwilson: why can't I compile the updated X |
| 00:47.36 | siva | on my debian |
| 00:47.39 | davidcc6 | mwilson sorry..... what? |
| 00:47.45 | slashzul | it gives me an error when I use "user@host, user@host" |
| 00:47.49 | slashzul | our custom apps used a linux box to forward email error messages as user@hostxxx.org |
| 00:47.56 | slashzul | it gives me an error when I use "user@host, user@host" |
| 00:48.07 | mwilson | davidcc6: As I said, inventing names to use, rather than using actual ones, seldom if ever works. |
| 00:48.21 | Bizarro_paco | (siva): how do u start your kde? |
| 00:48.24 | slashzul | i know have to send separate emails instaed of one single list of comma delimited |
| 00:48.27 | mwilson | davidcc6: So, use an actual name, then build support for it, and you're done. |
| 00:48.28 | slashzul | emails |
| 00:48.52 | slashzul | w |
| 00:49.00 | davidcc6 | mwilson man, i am so so so sorry, but... can you tellme, how do that? |
| 00:49.03 | neiljp | mwilson: ever the direct answers ;) |
| 00:49.08 | siva | Bizarro_paco:put "exec startkde" in you .Xsession file |
| 00:49.14 | davidcc6 | mwilson plis :D |
| 00:49.23 | directhex | davidcc6, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:49.31 | mwilson | neiljp: It's perfectly direct. |
| 00:50.01 | siva | mwilson: why can't I compile the X on debina? |
| 00:50.24 | mwilson | siva: You're not capable of it. Building X is extremely non-trivial. |
| 00:50.24 | davidcc6 | directhex and then what? |
| 00:50.45 | siva | oh ok |
| 00:51.01 | slashzul | ok then , ill write my own -- telnet server.com 25 ... ehlo looser@yourdomain.com .... |
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| 00:52.09 | directhex | davidcc6, then build some locales? |
| 00:52.13 | nutshell42 | why, the last time I tried (98ish admittedly) XFree compiled without a hitch, I didn't notice it had gotten much worse |
| 00:52.30 | davidcc6 | mwilson i use dpkg-reconfigure locales, but what opcion i need active? |
| 00:52.42 | eibwen | hmm... `MAKEDEV audio` recreated the missing /dev/dsp, and now esd runs without complaint (was using /dev/dspW earlier), but sound still doesn't seem to work -- although with my speakers at full volume I do get an interesting interference pattern. |
| 00:53.33 | big | i need help? |
| 00:53.34 | mwilson | directhex: So far I've been spared the udev stupidity... sooner or later some chain of dependencies will pull it in, I'm sure, but for now I'm immune. |
| 00:54.00 | mwilson | directhex: When that time comes, I'll short the whole thing out and do an equivs for it, |
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| 00:54.30 | segfault2k | some has a log of an apt-get upgrade |
| 00:54.33 | segfault2k | for a logo im making |
| 00:54.34 | siva | can I find updated third party X-server deb files |
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| 00:54.51 | npx | udev would be cool if it didn't suck so much ass. |
| 00:54.59 | eph | how is the latest Debians installer for AMD64? I heard the old ones were a bit archaic .. |
| 00:55.08 | derel1ct | i accidentally quit aptitude during install, what do i run to make install desktop environments, etc? |
| 00:55.30 | directhex | eph, it uses the standard sarge installer |
| 00:55.32 | eph | MDK and Ubuntu 64 havent given me much confidence in 64 bit distros so far |
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| 00:55.49 | valdyn_ | siva: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 00:55.58 | directhex | i run amd64 debian at work. i'd be happier with amd64 sarge rather than sid |
| 00:56.01 | kop | hello |
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| 00:56.22 | big | i need help? |
| 00:56.23 | dedikerad | how do i set the gnome-terminal to have the same keymap as the rest of GNOME? |
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| 00:56.29 | eph | directhex, what ver is the kernel in the latest? |
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| 00:56.38 | kop | How would I go about getting rid of metacity & using something (sawfish) in gnome? |
| 00:56.43 | kop | (Using sarge) |
| 00:57.06 | neetocin | does anyone know how to get themes (in particular, Aero inverted from freshmeat) to appear in xfce4? |
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| 00:57.07 | segfault2k | apt-get install sawfish |
| 00:57.09 | directhex | eph, the sid installer uses 2.6.9 |
| 00:57.10 | kop | I tried using gconf and changing the window manager and logging out and back in and that didn't do it. |
| 00:57.20 | segfault2k | killall metacity & sawfish && |
| 00:57.25 | segfault2k | gnome-session-save |
| 00:57.28 | kop | I did "apt-get install sawfish" and it's installed but not used. |
| 00:57.36 | nutshell42 | dedikerad: did you try loadkeys? |
| 00:57.41 | kop | Thanks, I'll try that. |
| 00:57.52 | dedikerad | nutshell42, yeah, but i didn't know what argument to use |
| 00:58.09 | dedikerad | nutshell42, i tried xmodmap-dedikerad but that didn't work |
| 00:58.17 | nutshell42 | which keymap do you need? |
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| 00:58.22 | nutshell42 | which language I mean |
| 00:58.30 | dedikerad | nutshell42, swedish, 105 keys or something |
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| 00:58.35 | simonrvn | kop: you're supposed to save the session too |
| 00:58.56 | kop | simonrvn: ok thanks. |
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| 00:59.22 | dedikerad | i don't know where to look |
| 00:59.33 | dedikerad | i found it in xkeycaps though |
| 00:59.40 | nutshell42 | Is swedish qwerty or qwertz? /usr/share/keymaps/i386/ in that dir you'll find the available keymaps |
| 00:59.41 | dedikerad | but i didn't know what to do with it, nor the output file |
| 00:59.55 | neetocin | does anyone know how to get themes (in particular, Aero inverted from freshmeat) to appear in xfce4? |
| 01:00.00 | nutshell42 | the argument for loadkeys is the filename without the .kmap.gz extension |
| 01:00.02 | moshii | has anyone tried using intel's binary drivers for the i810 etc? |
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| 01:00.31 | CSWookie | What is the difference between exim and exim4? |
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| 01:00.36 | dedikerad | nutshell42, qwerty. allthough, i get hundreds of messages like this one: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 01:00.43 | Guerin | CSWookie: version |
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| 01:00.53 | dedikerad | nutshell42, when i typed loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/se-latin1.kmap.gz |
| 01:01.21 | nutshell42 | ais, filename without extension |
| 01:01.25 | nutshell42 | loadkeys se-latin1 |
| 01:01.30 | nutshell42 | hope that works |
| 01:01.36 | kop | Looks like it worked. I'll logout and back and save the sessson and see if it sticks. Thanks. |
| 01:01.38 | dedikerad | loadkeys se-latin1 |
| 01:01.40 | kop | bye bye |
| 01:01.40 | dedikerad | sorry :D |
| 01:01.44 | CSWookie | Guerin: exim4 is later, or earlier? |
| 01:01.59 | nutshell42 | =) |
| 01:02.01 | dedikerad | i get the same error, damn it =) |
| 01:02.05 | jbr | CSWookie: "exim" means exim3 |
| 01:02.08 | nutshell42 | that's bad |
| 01:02.10 | Guerin | CSWookie: apt-cache policy exim; apt-cache policy exim4 |
| 01:02.43 | dedikerad | what does that mean? couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console? |
| 01:02.44 | nutshell42 | because I don't get an error and I think it loads the correct keymap (wrong font so I'm not sure =) |
| 01:02.50 | dedikerad | note that i'm in a gnome-terminal |
| 01:02.57 | CSWookie | Well, I'll be trendy then. |
| 01:03.24 | dedikerad | do you have ??? to the right of "l"(lower L)? |
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| 01:03.36 | dedikerad | ?, followed by ? |
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| 01:04.13 | vchrizz | uhm, i got a diff file to patch 'drupal' do i have to use the file with diff? i looked into the file and saw diff commands, so thgought, running it, could work, but its not working :P |
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| 01:04.29 | Guerin | vchrizz: man patch |
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| 01:04.40 | squiddy | Good evening. |
| 01:04.51 | nutshell42 | dedikerad: did you try to change the keymap as root? |
| 01:05.00 | Guerin | vchrizz: if you're building and want to patch the debian package of drupal, you'll need to read up on the debian build system somewhat |
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| 01:05.20 | kbrooks | i want dpkg to be verbose |
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| 01:05.29 | squiddy | Has anyone set up GXMame for Debian? I've installed it to all default locations here, but it doesn't seem able to fine my roms... |
| 01:05.34 | virgomoon | Evenin folks, it's me again. This time another CD-R question. Is there a great quality difference in blank cdr media or are they pretty much all the same and quality depends more on the burner? If so, any in particular I should be looking at or stay away from? |
| 01:05.36 | vchrizz | ok, thx Guerin ;) |
| 01:05.37 | dedikerad | nutshell42, as root it loaded sucessfully, but the swedish characters ??? and such doesn't print |
| 01:05.56 | virgomoon | media, that is |
| 01:05.57 | nutshell42 | dedikerad: you sure that the font has the required characters? |
| 01:07.08 | Guerin | wtf, how did tcsh get installed on my machine? |
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| 01:08.01 | dedikerad | it should have, i have never been required to install fonts for terminals before. allthough when i cat a file containing ??? it replaces them with squares |
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| 01:09.16 | virgomoon | hm.. no takers on that one, huh? |
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| 01:09.26 | kbrooks | i need dpkg to be verbose, Guerin |
| 01:09.30 | kbrooks | any ideas |
| 01:09.37 | dedikerad | thanks |
| 01:09.45 | dedikerad | will reload gnome and test a thing |
| 01:09.48 | Guerin | kbrooks: dpkg IS verbose |
| 01:09.49 | dedikerad | be well |
| 01:10.05 | squiddy | virgomoon, sorry, but as far as I know, most media are equivalent these days. I've had mixed success, but I don't burn very often. |
| 01:10.10 | mwilson | dedikerad: Are you complaining about a keymap, or about how the font you're trying to use doesn't have the codepoints you think it should in it? |
| 01:10.15 | kbrooks | Guerin: i want dpkg to be verbose even more |
| 01:10.22 | Guerin | kbrooks: why? |
| 01:10.48 | kbrooks | is it possible? |
| 01:11.21 | virgomoon | squiddy: That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure, I don't burn much either, but I'm getting ready to. There are some out there mail order for .33 each, but the local Office Depot has their house brand for .39 each. Not enought diff to make me pay shipping. |
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| 01:11.42 | Guerin | kbrooks: man dpkg |
| 01:11.52 | Guerin | kbrooks: if I knew what kind of information you wanted, I might have some other ideas |
| 01:12.04 | virgomoon | squiddy: I've had a few from the local Wal-Mart do bad burns on me, but I don't know if it was the media or the burner. |
| 01:12.06 | Guerin | !br |
| 01:12.06 | dpkg | it has been said that br is Brazil, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:12.30 | squiddy | !cdr |
| 01:12.30 | dpkg | [cdr] Compact Disc Recordable, see cdrw, or a copy & crunch set of programs for ripping cds |
| 01:12.32 | kbrooks | Guerin: i want install traces. |
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| 01:13.11 | Guerin | !nonsense kbrooks |
| 01:13.12 | dpkg | kbrooks: How have did the kernel cache to auto discovered the wifi thing !!!???? |
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| 01:13.36 | kbrooks | Guerin: i don't make sense eh? |
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| 01:13.57 | kbrooks | well....... |
| 01:14.16 | kbrooks | if i can get myself right...... |
| 01:14.17 | chupie | how do i add different themes to the WM enlightenment? |
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| 01:15.03 | kop | Thanks all, Sawfish is now running. |
| 01:15.03 | billatq | Apt. Only then will you achieve enlightenment. |
| 01:15.04 | BErgas | is it possible to mount a ntfs partition in readonlymode with execute rights on the files? |
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| 01:15.09 | squiddy | Okay, no takers on helping me figure out GXMame? Basically, can't get it to recognize any ROM files. Looks like it isn't generating it's gamelist file properly. |
| 01:15.29 | kbrooks | i have a problem, i built my own package for keyano BUT dpkg --contents does not list keyano.py, or anything. |
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| 01:15.39 | virgomoon | squiddy: I'd love to help, but I'm clueless. |
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| 01:15.56 | Guerin | kbrooks: you want to see the contents of the package you built? |
| 01:16.08 | kbrooks | well, it lists some files, but they are in /usr/share/doc |
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| 01:16.25 | kbrooks | but the other files are required. |
| 01:16.45 | kbrooks | Guerin: yep. |
| 01:16.55 | Raf256 | can I tell gnome-terminal, in KDE to not capture F10 key (the access windows main menu in KDE), but to pass this key to application runing insied gnome-terminal? |
| 01:17.09 | Raf256 | but I still F10 key to work normaly for other appications |
| 01:17.26 | elnovato | where is the bar? |
| 01:17.34 | slashzul | quit |
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| 01:17.49 | kop | So, what I don't understand when it comes to the window manager, in gnome, is where gconf comes in. Looks like the session management is what is starting the window manager. Can anybody hit me with a cluestick? |
| 01:17.51 | skobrosl | hello anyone here use mono> |
| 01:17.53 | jbr | elnovato: near the foo? |
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| 01:18.31 | cafuego | skobrosl: Use? I *wrote* it! |
| 01:18.32 | Guerin | kbrooks: so dpkg --contents shows you what files are in the package. If the files you want aren't there, rebuild the package such that they are. |
| 01:18.54 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 01:18.54 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 01:19.01 | cafuego | Running Mono 2.061 (build 14) - i686 Linux 2.6.6-1-386 - MySQL 3.23.56 |
| 01:19.16 | skobrosl | cafuego: can you give me the debs |
| 01:19.19 | skobrosl | or source? |
| 01:19.23 | valdyn_ | kop: gconf settings are saved ( only ) when the session is saved |
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| 01:19.27 | skobrosl | i need like mono-devel and monoDevelop |
| 01:19.27 | cafuego | skobrosl: No, it's not GPL. |
| 01:19.34 | cafuego | And not packaged. |
| 01:19.35 | Guerin | kop: gconf basically controls everything in gnome - window manager settings, gnome app behaviour, fonts, colours, the whole shop |
| 01:19.37 | squiddy | Raf256, I believe that's done in the application. You have a File-Edit-View-etc. menu, right? |
| 01:19.40 | kbrooks | I'm glad Debian makes installing packages relatively easy. |
| 01:19.52 | cafuego | Unless you mean that .net thing, in which case I have nothign whatsoever to do with it., |
| 01:19.53 | Guerin | kop: it's basically the windows registry for gnome, except less evil |
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| 01:20.00 | iceman | Im trying to find out if I can use a certain DV-camera with debian, and google fails me here. you guys know if theres any channels dedicated to linux/video? |
| 01:20.01 | giupy | hi all |
| 01:20.12 | kbrooks | if i need mod_ruby, i install it. if i need mod_perl, ... |
| 01:20.21 | kop | valdyn_: I changed the window manager in gconf, and logged out and clicked the 'save session' checkbox and metacity kept being used. |
| 01:20.28 | Guerin | kop: for a clear view of how it works, install gconf-editor |
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| 01:20.57 | skobrosl | cafuego: so i cant use yours? |
| 01:20.57 | vlad|deb | what a crowd |
| 01:21.09 | directhex | !info monodevelop |
| 01:21.13 | dpkg | monodevelop: (C#/Java/Nermele/ILasm Development Environment), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1535 kB, Installed size: 5544 kB |
| 01:21.15 | kop | Guerin: I'm sorry, I got it wrong. I just checked my menu properties and I _was_ running gconf-editor. |
| 01:21.20 | kbrooks | vlad|deb: yes, #debian is huge. |
| 01:21.33 | kbrooks | and yes, debian is large. |
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| 01:21.44 | thomas_adam | kbrooks: mod_ruby rocks. |
| 01:22.01 | kbrooks | thomas_adam: i'm gonna install it. :D |
| 01:22.02 | vlad|deb | at least it is never a dull moment |
| 01:22.03 | kop | Guerin: In fact, after "killall metacity && sawfish&" and then logging out, saving session, and logging in, gconf-editor still had metacity listed as the window manager. |
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| 01:22.48 | kop | Guerin: (so I've since changed it to sawfish) |
| 01:23.18 | valdyn_ | kop: because metacity was in ~/.gnome2/session, and now sawfish is, gconfs setting doesnt matter |
| 01:23.21 | elnovato | http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/sshot.php << why this isnt included in the apt ??? |
| 01:23.36 | giupy | i use kernel 2.6.9 and slmodem for my sis internal modem using slamr module and a script in init.d,however i have started pc with 2.4.26 for doing something and than restarted with 2.6.9, now i don't have my module so i have tried to reinserting it but itsays me "invalid module format" i have tried to uninstall it and than reinstall it but same error what can i do ? |
| 01:23.48 | Guerin | the mono development tools aren't free software? |
| 01:23.51 | Raf256 | squiddy- my console application can use F10 key, in example "mc". But gnome-terminal windows in KDE captures the F10 key itself to show _own_ menu. how to disable F10 for gnome-terminal in KDE and allow to pass the F10 key to appliction like mc tunning inside it? |
| 01:23.58 | kop | eleovato: So, then when _does_ gconf matter? That's the clue I'm looking for. |
| 01:23.59 | kbrooks | Guerin: they are |
| 01:24.19 | vlad|deb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:24.31 | kop | elevanto: (Because,at least when it comes to window managers, there's _always_ going to be one in the session.) |
| 01:24.37 | CSRx | i just want to share that i was showing off my sarge system to my friend, and he never heard of apt-get. he was amazed. he's now downloading sarge. i just thought that was cool news worth sharing. |
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| 01:24.52 | vlad|deb | going to #flood with the error readout |
| 01:24.56 | Guerin | !win CSRx |
| 01:24.57 | dpkg | Congratulations, CSRx! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 01:25.04 | kruzi | CSRx: commission would be nice eh :) |
| 01:25.19 | valdyn_ | kop: it just stores data, depends on the app ( gnome-session ) how it matters or not |
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| 01:25.45 | CSRx | well actually i have donated to debian... |
| 01:25.51 | squiddy | Raf256, I would have thought you'd do it the same way you do in GNOME -- using the Edit>Keyboard Shortcuts menu. |
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| 01:26.01 | kop | valdyn_: Where can I read up? |
| 01:26.22 | Guerin | wtf, google timing out |
| 01:26.29 | Guerin | the internet is broken! |
| 01:26.41 | valdyn_ | kop: read up what? how gnome-session treats the wm setting in gconf? |
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| 01:27.11 | directhex | !tell vlad|deb about msg |
| 01:27.33 | bighead | hi. lets say I install a package 'c' which depends on 'a' and 'b'. So I do 'sudo apt-get install c', and it install 'a' and 'b' too. Now after sometime I want to remove c. But I also want to remove 'a' and 'b', since only 'c' uses them, and if I remove 'c', I dno't need 'b' and 'a'. how do I do it with apt-get remove? |
| 01:27.52 | kop | valdyn_: I suppose window managers in gnome in general. Maybe that means gnome-session because there's no other way to change it. (I was thinking about editing the session and deleting metacity but was worried I wouldn't be able to undo.) |
| 01:28.20 | Guerin | bighead: if you want that functionality, don't use apt-get; use aptitude. |
| 01:28.21 | directhex | dare i ask what went through your mind, vlad|deb, when you decided to paste your XFree86.0.log to me without provocation? |
| 01:28.31 | vchrizz | does anyone know how to send ^\ with a german keymap? |
| 01:28.34 | Guerin | bighead: or run debfoster regularly |
| 01:28.40 | giupy | what does it mean "invalid module format" if i have ever used it with 2.6.9 kernel like a module ? |
| 01:28.41 | vlad|deb | sorry, verry new at this |
| 01:28.45 | bighead | Guerin: ah ok. Synaptic have that too? |
| 01:28.54 | Guerin | bighead: no idea. |
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| 01:29.36 | elnovato | kop |
| 01:29.39 | elnovato | right |
| 01:29.40 | vlad|deb | just learning , leaving the world of windows in search of music in machinery |
| 01:30.00 | directhex | vlad|deb, that doesn't mean pasting large error messages to people unannounced |
| 01:30.05 | directhex | vlad|deb, modprobe nvidia |
| 01:30.17 | directhex | vlad|deb, and errors over 3 lines go in #flood, nowhere else |
| 01:30.50 | valdyn_ | kop: backup your session and try editing, though the only way to really figure out what gnome-session does in what order would be to read its source.. |
| 01:31.07 | kop | elnovato: Ok, thanks. |
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| 01:31.16 | kop | valdyn_: ah, a backup. Smart. |
| 01:31.17 | elnovato | kop: lets drinkl some beers |
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| 01:32.16 | kop | elnovato: Sorry, this is about the 4th time I've been on irc. I'd be afraid you'd take advantage of me. |
| 01:32.22 | kop | :) |
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| 01:33.21 | elnovato | well if you are blondie and hot.. for sure hehe |
| 01:33.21 | kop | directhex: How do you see #flood and #debian at the same time? Two xterms/irc clients? |
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| 01:33.34 | vlad|deb | directhex I have p0sted the errors in flood |
| 01:33.54 | kop | elnovato: Well, I _am_ blondie and hot, But male. My girl wouldn't approve. |
| 01:33.58 | directhex | vlad|deb, modprobe nvidia, start x again |
| 01:34.10 | mage | hmm, is there any hardware modder channels on freenode? |
| 01:34.15 | directhex | kop, erm... iall irc clients allow multipe channels |
| 01:34.24 | directhex | mage, more likely to be on quakenet or efnet |
| 01:34.35 | kop | directhex: Thanks, someday I'll RTFM. |
| 01:34.39 | elnovato | i can get used hehe |
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| 01:34.57 | elnovato | ok im leaving bye pals |
| 01:35.01 | elnovato | bye kop |
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| 01:35.13 | Jim__ | does anyone know where gdm themes are kept? |
| 01:35.19 | vlad|deb | is there a way to load that module before the gdm starts? |
| 01:35.45 | directhex | vlad|deb, by putting 'nvidia' into /etc/modules. i'm certain i told you to do that when you were last in here |
| 01:35.50 | mage | quakenet i shall try |
| 01:36.11 | vlad|deb | I thought I did unless I did a typo |
| 01:36.20 | iceman | Jim__: mabye 'dpkg -L gdm' can give you a hint |
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| 01:37.08 | kop | Thanks all. bye bye. |
| 01:37.33 | segfault2k | http://ktown.kde.cl/~segfault/debian.png |
| 01:37.36 | segfault2k | how is it? |
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| 01:37.58 | Jim__ | iceman, thanks, but i deleted a custom theme i installed and kindof need it back, any clue where they would keep that? |
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| 01:38.08 | elnovato | im back, whats the pack name for eclipse? |
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| 01:39.06 | netangel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.19 | vlad|deb | I am using a pentium 4 with a 386 kernel, will that cause any issues that I should know about? |
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| 01:39.43 | PerfDave | vlad|deb: No |
| 01:39.51 | PerfDave | What can I use to edit EXIF data stored in a JPG? exif, exiftags, jhead and metacam seem to extract but not edit this data. |
| 01:40.01 | directhex | vlad|deb, only performance issues. |
| 01:40.24 | Guerin | and with a p4, any performance hit you take will be negligible |
| 01:40.39 | vlad|deb | I also noticed a warning that said the nvidia driver taints the kernel, is that for GPL reasons? |
| 01:40.58 | directhex | vlad|deb, yes |
| 01:41.00 | chealer | it's not open source |
| 01:41.07 | vlad|deb | Figured that |
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| 01:41.16 | PerfDave | chealer: It's not GPL-compatiable, you mean ;) |
| 01:41.27 | kenboo | PerfDave, i guess there's a Perl module. libimage-exif-perl |
| 01:41.49 | chealer | well, I think it's also not open source |
| 01:41.56 | vlad|deb | are the performance issues minor or worth going to the 686 kernel |
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| 01:42.16 | netangel | nobody ever encounter the same problem ? (talking about /etc/ld.so.cache which cannot be read by root) |
| 01:42.18 | PerfDave | chealer: Yes, it's not open source, but something could be open-source and still taint the kernel ;) |
| 01:42.19 | Guerin | vlad|deb: no reason not to use a 686 kernel, but they will be pretty minor |
| 01:42.29 | chealer | PerfDave: yeah |
| 01:42.34 | directhex | depends on what you're doing |
| 01:42.45 | Guerin | look up the difference between 'free', 'gpl-compatible' and 'open source' sometime |
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| 01:42.49 | PerfDave | vlad|deb: Depends on what you're doing. It won't hurt, could potentially be a big saver :) |
| 01:42.49 | directhex | if you use your system only to do matrix math, the difference could be several hundred percent |
| 01:43.16 | PerfDave | vlad|deb: Also look at the libc6-i686 package |
| 01:43.18 | vlad|deb | after setting up the driver, I am not sure I want to go though that again |
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| 01:43.35 | PerfDave | vlad|deb: A -686 kernel and libc6-i686 will set you up pretty nicely, I should think. |
| 01:43.38 | chealer | vlad|deb: it's a pain |
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| 01:43.48 | directhex | vlad|deb, new kernel means new nvidia kernel module, though (install new kernel, then apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) && m-a a-i nvidia) |
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| 01:43.52 | chealer | vlad|deb: but I did it twice and survived :) |
| 01:43.56 | segfault2k | http://ktown.kde.cl/~segfault/mt/ |
| 01:43.59 | segfault2k | oh wrong tab |
| 01:44.01 | PerfDave | vlad|deb: Bah, installing the nvidia drivers is easy if you follow the instructions. Took me about ten minutes. |
| 01:44.01 | segfault2k | sorry |
| 01:45.06 | PerfDave | directhex: Hmm, wouldn't it be nice if there were some standard mechanism in the kernel-image postint script which called module-assistant for you ;) |
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