| 00:00.07 | Wyzard | jetscreamer: What's so hard about switching to ALSA? |
| 00:00.08 | yeaH | doesn't work no either.. |
| 00:00.12 | Nyle | umm, kernel/sound/ |
| 00:00.21 | distilled | yeah |
| 00:00.28 | distilled | 10.0.0.4 is an internal |
| 00:00.35 | distilled | are you connecting to it on a lan |
| 00:00.39 | yeaH | yes |
| 00:00.43 | mythsmith | jetscreamer: i installed snd-emu10k1 under sound/pci/emu10k1 |
| 00:00.50 | jetscreamer | k |
| 00:01.06 | Gujiz | tell me what i can do with my php-support im desperative :P |
| 00:01.10 | Nyle | wel |
| 00:01.22 | jetscreamer | i don't like alsa, and you also have discover to contend with... you need to blacklist the oss emu10k1.... |
| 00:01.25 | Nyle | well i dunno about your sound man |
| 00:01.25 | greycat | ask #php |
| 00:01.26 | yeaH | it works now |
| 00:01.28 | Nyle | i have an ac97 |
| 00:01.29 | yeaH | thanks! |
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| 00:01.55 | jetscreamer | ac97_codec gets loaded automagically with snd_emu10k1 iirc |
| 00:02.00 | distilled | Gujiz: www.php.net |
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| 00:02.01 | jetscreamer | snd_ac97blah |
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| 00:02.08 | Wyzard | jetscreamer: I hadn't thought about having to blacklist; I compile custom kernels so I just leave OSS out entirely |
| 00:02.24 | jetscreamer | i compile oss in :) |
| 00:02.29 | Wyzard | jetscreamer: But aside from that, just load snd-emu10k1, install alsa-base and alsa-utils, and unmute the mixer levels |
| 00:02.30 | Gujiz | distilled i have tried, but i'm too noob :( |
| 00:02.37 | jetscreamer | but i DID get it to work |
| 00:02.39 | distilled | Gujiz: do you have apache installed |
| 00:02.43 | Gujiz | yes |
| 00:02.43 | jetscreamer | alsa i mean |
| 00:02.56 | distilled | then do apt-get install php4 |
| 00:03.01 | Gujiz | i have tried |
| 00:03.01 | mythsmith | Nyle: so... the snd-emu10k1 module is loaded, the oss module is unloaded... now? alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 00:03.05 | Gujiz | but it wont work |
| 00:03.10 | jetscreamer | !fix-alsa |
| 00:03.16 | jetscreamer | damn bot |
| 00:03.18 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:03.20 | distilled | what does it say |
| 00:03.27 | Gujiz | it just wont work |
| 00:03.35 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 00:03.35 | dpkg | modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> modprobe snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-oss |
| 00:03.37 | Nyle | u have root? |
| 00:03.37 | jetscreamer | there |
| 00:03.39 | Gujiz | i try run some php-scripts and it wont work |
| 00:03.48 | Nyle | Gujiz, u can run apt? |
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| 00:03.55 | Gujiz | Nyle yes |
| 00:03.55 | Nyle | nevermind |
| 00:03.57 | mythsmith | Nyle: yes |
| 00:04.07 | distilled | well do |
| 00:04.10 | distilled | apt-get remove php4 |
| 00:04.14 | Gujiz | done |
| 00:04.14 | distilled | to remove anything you've puton |
| 00:04.23 | distilled | have you done apt-get install php4-common |
| 00:04.31 | Gujiz | nope |
| 00:04.32 | distilled | all the packages relating to php4 you can view |
| 00:04.34 | Nyle | dependy broken |
| 00:04.35 | distilled | doing |
| 00:04.35 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:04.38 | distilled | apt-cache search php4 |
| 00:04.53 | mythsmith | Nyle: done modprobes. Same error from alsamixer |
| 00:05.05 | Gujiz | Couldn't find package php4-common |
| 00:05.12 | Nyle | apt-cache search php4 |less |
| 00:05.25 | Nyle | or else you won' see anyting on console it will zoom by |
| 00:05.27 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:05.40 | distilled | apt-cache search php4 | less |
| 00:05.42 | Nyle | mythsmith, I give |
| 00:05.52 | distilled | yea |
| 00:05.53 | Nyle | i shall now leave it to the exprets, i have helped you to the beswt of my knowledge |
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| 00:05.55 | distilled | what he said |
| 00:06.15 | jetscreamer | mythsmith, did you log out and log back in? |
| 00:06.20 | Nyle | that might help |
| 00:06.21 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:06.22 | hulett | asdfasdf |
| 00:06.22 | hulett | as |
| 00:06.30 | hulett | Feh. /me stabs the cat. |
| 00:06.32 | Gujiz | distilled done, then ? |
| 00:06.36 | mythsmith | jetscreamer: no. Should I? |
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| 00:06.49 | jetscreamer | i don't know how to check and see if the alsa DEV nodes have been created |
| 00:06.56 | distilled | now you see that list of packages |
| 00:07.03 | jetscreamer | maybe |
| 00:07.10 | Gujiz | yes, and what i do with them ? :P |
| 00:07.17 | jetscreamer | also check the sound part of your kde control panel |
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| 00:07.24 | Nyle | Gujiz, install these following packages, apache-common apache-utils libapache-mod-php4 php4-common |
| 00:07.30 | Gujiz | ok |
| 00:07.36 | neonmagic | hey guys, need a helping hand - trying to use sort to sort the output of netstat into numerical order but the -n and -g switches don't really do it in proper numerical order, any ideas? |
| 00:07.37 | Nyle | and php4 as well |
| 00:07.44 | jetscreamer | i thought that was apache2 Gujiz was using |
| 00:07.47 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 00:07.49 | Nyle | or whatever |
| 00:07.56 | Nyle | just get the respective package |
| 00:08.00 | distilled | or |
| 00:08.02 | distilled | you could run dselect |
| 00:08.05 | Nyle | heh |
| 00:08.06 | distilled | for the noob waty |
| 00:08.06 | distilled | :o |
| 00:08.19 | Gujiz | Couldn't find package apache-utils |
| 00:08.22 | jetscreamer | dselect for the tried and true and does dependencies better way |
| 00:08.31 | Nyle | gujiz, are you on woody or saarge? |
| 00:08.36 | Gujiz | woody |
| 00:08.36 | jetscreamer | emphasis on the latter |
| 00:08.42 | Nyle | typo |
| 00:08.49 | neonmagic | woody doesn't have that package |
| 00:08.54 | neonmagic | only sarge/sid |
| 00:08.55 | Nyle | you need to update to sarge |
| 00:09.00 | Gujiz | how ? |
| 00:09.02 | Nyle | and sarge actualy is quite stabe |
| 00:09.15 | Gujiz | im real noob in this linux, sry about that |
| 00:09.20 | distilled | Gujiz: |
| 00:09.23 | distilled | just run tasksel |
| 00:09.41 | jetscreamer | that should work |
| 00:09.43 | Nyle | first modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change the words stable to sarge |
| 00:09.56 | Gujiz | ok |
| 00:09.57 | Nyle | Gujiz, first modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change the words stable to sarge |
| 00:10.01 | Nyle | and save it |
| 00:10.16 | Nyle | type nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:10.25 | Nyle | after you save it, run apt-get update |
| 00:10.25 | _rene_ | bah, nano ;-P |
| 00:10.29 | neonmagic | i'd recommend making a backup copy of /etc/apt/sources.list first |
| 00:10.37 | Nyle | let me now when you have gone thus far |
| 00:10.45 | Nyle | this* |
| 00:11.13 | Gujiz | all where i can find word stable i replace it with sarge ? |
| 00:11.19 | Nyle | yup |
| 00:11.27 | jetscreamer | comment out the security one |
| 00:11.40 | Nyle | put a # infrom of the one pertaining to security |
| 00:11.46 | Nyle | infront* |
| 00:11.56 | Gujiz | there is two security |
| 00:11.57 | Wyzard | Nyle: No, change that to say "sarge" too |
| 00:12.12 | Nyle | ok sure |
| 00:12.13 | Nyle | :) |
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| 00:12.25 | Wyzard | Nyle: I'm not sure whether they're doing security updates for sarge yet, but they will be eventually, and in the meantime, it's harmless |
| 00:12.26 | Nyle | change the one for security to sarge as well |
| 00:12.45 | neonmagic | deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security sarge/updates main contrib non-free |
| 00:13.12 | _rene_ | non-free is useless, there is no real security updates for non-free |
| 00:13.15 | Nyle | Gujiz, paste in #flood not in my pm |
| 00:13.17 | Nyle | :) |
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| 00:13.24 | Gujiz | sry |
| 00:13.34 | neonmagic | doesn't hurt to have it though rene, if it's useless it just doesn't get used |
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| 00:14.02 | Gujiz | done |
| 00:14.11 | Nyle | run apt-get update |
| 00:14.39 | Gujiz | ok |
| 00:14.40 | Nyle | after it gets done updating |
| 00:14.47 | Nyle | type apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 00:15.13 | Nyle | or apt-get upgrade if you wish to update ALL packages currently installed |
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| 00:15.51 | Gujiz | i typed dist-upgrade :P |
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| 00:15.54 | Nyle | you might also want to update your kernel image, as I am guessing you are using 2.2.20, type uname -a |
| 00:16.17 | Nyle | wait |
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| 00:16.25 | Nyle | apt doesn't automatically update the kernel does it |
| 00:16.28 | Nyle | i don't think it does |
| 00:16.39 | Nyle | on a dist-upgrade |
| 00:16.40 | neonmagic | it'll grab a kernel image and install it yes |
| 00:16.46 | Nyle | ah |
| 00:16.47 | Gujiz | wait a sec, this dist-upgrade takes long time :P |
| 00:16.49 | Nyle | brain fart |
| 00:16.52 | neonmagic | do the dist-upgrade first and then a separate update of the kernel |
| 00:16.55 | Gujiz | 7% |
| 00:17.08 | neonmagic | there's a lot of packages to update Gujiz |
| 00:17.13 | Gujiz | yep |
| 00:17.19 | Nyle | someone should add this woddy to sarge to the bot |
| 00:17.20 | Gujiz | and my connection is not so good |
| 00:17.25 | neonmagic | :( |
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| 00:17.37 | genixpro | I'm having a problem installing debian. I installed sarge-dvd, and i dual booted with windows. Now windows doesn't boot, it has something to do with "Unbootable partition" or something similiar |
| 00:17.40 | Nyle | !woodytosarge |
| 00:17.43 | Nyle | :D |
| 00:17.59 | genixpro | !dualboot |
| 00:17.59 | dpkg | you have two hard drives... only some rich bastard would have more then one hard drive |
| 00:18.02 | caphuso | dpkg: woodytosarge is <reply> see woody->sarge |
| 00:18.03 | dpkg | okay, caphuso |
| 00:18.08 | genixpro | !dual |
| 00:18.13 | distilled | !woody>sarge |
| 00:18.13 | RichiH | stew: i assume the spammer is gone? |
| 00:18.19 | distilled | you have to modify your |
| 00:18.22 | distilled | source.list |
| 00:18.26 | distilled | to reflect the new distro |
| 00:18.35 | distilled | then update |
| 00:18.39 | distilled | then apt-get dist-update |
| 00:18.42 | jasonf | hello :) |
| 00:18.53 | Nyle | genixpro, what exactly did you do to your windows disks? |
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| 00:19.21 | Nyle | you want to run fdisk |
| 00:19.28 | Nyle | and set the bootable flag on for the windows partition |
| 00:19.35 | Nyle | unless there is something else wrong |
| 00:19.44 | genixpro | i have one harddrive, 200 gb, 16 gb partition with windows first, then i instsalled debian sarge |
| 00:19.50 | Nyle | run linux fdisk/cfdisk/or windows fdisk |
| 00:19.55 | neonmagic | genixpro: are you using lilo or grub to handle booting? |
| 00:20.03 | Gujiz | Nyle how much disk-space this takes ? i have only 20Gb hard-disk in my server-computer :P |
| 00:20.11 | genixpro | i think its grub |
| 00:20.16 | Nyle | gujiz i dont know |
| 00:20.19 | Gujiz | :) |
| 00:20.19 | neonmagic | 20gb should be fine Gujiz |
| 00:20.24 | Gujiz | ok |
| 00:20.27 | Nyle | oh gb |
| 00:20.28 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:20.31 | Nyle | how the hell did i read mb |
| 00:20.33 | Nyle | nevermind |
| 00:20.36 | neonmagic | dunno, late nite |
| 00:20.36 | Gujiz | :) |
| 00:21.09 | neonmagic | genixpro: can you paste the output of this command: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst to me in a pm please |
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| 00:21.19 | Nyle | genixpro, oh |
| 00:21.19 | Nyle | wait |
| 00:21.21 | Nyle | i got it |
| 00:21.28 | Nyle | you have to chainload+ or somthing |
| 00:21.33 | Nyle | chainload windows through grub |
| 00:22.08 | Nyle | title Windows XP on (hd0,0) |
| 00:22.08 | Nyle | root (hd0,0) |
| 00:22.08 | Nyle | chainloader + |
| 00:22.12 | Nyle | as an example |
| 00:22.15 | Nyle | sorry for the paste |
| 00:22.30 | EX_MACHINA | Does anybody in here know anything about making a wireless card work on Debian running on a Sony Vaio Laptop? |
| 00:22.36 | neonmagic | i'm a bad example since I don't run windows ;) |
| 00:22.49 | the_stick | nothing worse than cold sweat on your palms |
| 00:23.03 | the_stick | you can't move your fingers |
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| 00:23.06 | Nyle | heh |
| 00:23.21 | Myren | EX_MACHINA: find out what your wireless card is, then we might be able to help better. Do you have a centrino? |
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| 00:23.53 | MattS | i got a 3net ethernet card... um i dont know what module is for 3net cards. and i cant find anything on google |
| 00:24.04 | Nyle | !3net |
| 00:24.07 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:24.09 | Nyle | worth a shot |
| 00:24.17 | MattS | heh |
| 00:24.21 | initech | Nyle: what is the chipset, as in from lspci? |
| 00:24.34 | Nyle | oh its not for me, its for mattS |
| 00:24.38 | cafuego | chainloader +1 |
| 00:24.38 | MattS | ya me :) |
| 00:24.42 | MattS | one sec let me look |
| 00:24.47 | initech | Nyle: sorry |
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| 00:24.50 | Nyle | np |
| 00:25.02 | EX_MACHINA | Hold on, I had it somewhere here. It's very particular to Sony Vaio, and Ive been sitting here all day getting all my hardware running. |
| 00:25.07 | nksen | what to do if I wanna rename files with a leading '-' and a backslash in front of it does not work? |
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| 00:25.19 | cafuego | nksen: mv -- -file file |
| 00:25.35 | MattS | ya says RTL-8139... i've loaded the rtl8139 module too. and it just bitchs |
| 00:25.35 | dimmur_ | hello i've problem with gnome - i was restarting it but after next run i have no all my menubars - how can i get them back? |
| 00:25.50 | initech | nksen: the "--" tells the command that options are finished |
| 00:25.54 | MattS | i'll get what lsmod says when i add debugging |
| 00:25.56 | MattS | one sec |
| 00:25.59 | nksen | initech, nice nice, thx a lot! |
| 00:26.12 | cafuego | MattS: '8139too' or '8139cp' |
| 00:26.28 | Nyle | MattS, with kernel 2.4 + you have to use 8139too/cp |
| 00:26.33 | Nyle | cafuego, beat me to it |
| 00:27.02 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:27.08 | dimmur_ | how to restore menubars in gnome ? (they dissapeard after relogin) |
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| 00:27.37 | Nyle | DimmuR, gnome-control-panel? |
| 00:27.41 | MattS | not lsmod btw.. insmod.. says something about unresolved symbols when doing insmod -d rtl8139 |
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| 00:27.48 | neonmagic | no idea DimmuR, don't use gnome |
| 00:27.56 | MattS | Nyle, i installed a highly out of date version of woody |
| 00:27.58 | MattS | i'll find the kernel version |
| 00:28.03 | Wyzard | DimmuR: Run "gnome-panel" |
| 00:28.07 | the_stick | ahh..nothing like burning the midnight oil with caffeine |
| 00:28.21 | neonmagic | guinness is much better the_stick |
| 00:28.25 | MattS | kernel version is 2.2.20 |
| 00:28.27 | MattS | :) |
| 00:28.31 | Nyle | update! |
| 00:28.34 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:28.38 | MattS | can't! :D |
| 00:28.42 | the_stick | neonmagic : guiness ? |
| 00:28.49 | neonmagic | irish beer |
| 00:28.49 | Nyle | beer? |
| 00:28.49 | initech | neonmagic: err, it sure doesn't keep you awake |
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| 00:28.57 | zirikili | is possible to install gnome bluecurve theme on debian? |
| 00:29.00 | the_stick | crap..I think I had too much..drank 2 cans of red bull .. so 1.5g of caffeine |
| 00:29.03 | neonmagic | true initech, but you do have a good time ;) |
| 00:29.04 | Nyle | ziL, |
| 00:29.15 | initech | the_stick: try smoking crack |
| 00:29.24 | the_stick | duh..just consumed 960KJ of energy |
| 00:29.40 | Nyle | thats a lotta jouls |
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| 00:29.41 | cafuego | The sugar in red bull actually makes you hyper? |
| 00:29.47 | the_stick | I'm alert..but stuppid |
| 00:29.50 | cafuego | Kids these days... |
| 00:29.54 | the_stick | cafuego : very |
| 00:30.00 | initech | red bull tastes like cough syrup, that shit is nasty |
| 00:30.05 | Nyle | it is man |
| 00:30.08 | p2-mate | initech: yep. indeed |
| 00:30.11 | Wyzard | I like Red Bull because it tastes like liquid Skittles... but that's about it |
| 00:30.12 | MattS | sooooooooo.... i'm kinda fucked with my situation.. i also loaded 8139too. it loaded without errors. but ifconfig shows nothing and ifconfig eth0 up bitchs about it being temporarily unavailable :S |
| 00:30.14 | initech | shows what marketing can do |
| 00:30.20 | arthur | im attempting to install on an alpha, i dont know what to put for the init=as a kernel argument |
| 00:30.21 | neonmagic | that reminds me of a denis leary album initech (smoking crack) |
| 00:30.24 | Nyle | i take this herbal caffience concentrage with my coffee/tea/juice, a herbalife product |
| 00:30.27 | Nyle | its wonderful |
| 00:30.37 | DimmuR | Wyzard when i rune control-panel my tolbar is running but it's frozen - i cannot click anywhere :( |
| 00:30.37 | the_stick | cafuego : it clearly stands out from all the other energy drinks |
| 00:30.54 | the_stick | plus..I'm always pessimistic about such stuff, but red bull works. |
| 00:30.55 | neonmagic | brb |
| 00:30.58 | Nyle | im outta pot |
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| 00:31.06 | MattS | bah. vicodin owns |
| 00:31.09 | nvz | try this stuff powermade makes called Psyche.. I forget what the other is called.. comes in a metal bottle or something.. its terrible |
| 00:31.10 | Wyzard | DimmuR: dunno about that, sorry |
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| 00:31.16 | Nyle | hi nvz |
| 00:31.37 | Gujiz | in finland is two good energy drinks :P |
| 00:31.44 | cafuego | the_stick: It's disgusting bubblegum flavour, just like all the others. Mixing it 50/50 with vodka *just* manages to make it bearable. |
| 00:31.45 | nvz | Nyle: not yet, but I'me working on it |
| 00:31.48 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:31.53 | Nyle | im dry brother |
| 00:32.00 | Nyle | smoke one for me |
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| 00:32.11 | nvz | like I said I am working on it |
| 00:32.13 | EX_MACHINA | Ok, I have a intersil/harris prism 2 wireless card on my Sony Vaio Laptop and its being a b**ch to configure on debian. I got it so that i could ping yesterday night, but since then it's no longer doing anything. Would anybody happen to be able to help with this? |
| 00:32.15 | the_stick | cafuego : I mix it with nonalcoholic budweiser |
| 00:32.18 | yeaH | lol |
| 00:32.33 | initech | try it with St Ides Special Malt, it's really good |
| 00:32.34 | cafuego | the_stick: That's water either way. |
| 00:32.36 | wpostma_ | EX_MACHINA, mine works great. |
| 00:32.57 | the_stick | cafuego : really bitter stuff |
| 00:33.03 | dat | when I "ls -l" my home directories the group has the permissions "rws" what does the s mean, I expected an x for executable. |
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| 00:33.41 | dbron | dat: google for setuid |
| 00:33.42 | sun_ | hi how do i figure out which deb package contains a program i want? |
| 00:33.51 | EX_MACHINA | good for you. Mine didnt autoconfigure, and its currently no longer auto-mounting on start up. I was having trouble getting it to communicate with my DHCP to get an IP until I forced an IP, it worked for a few minutes and will no longer do anything. |
| 00:33.52 | cafuego | sun_: apt-file or dpkg -S |
| 00:33.59 | wpostma_ | Budweiser is also known as Advanced-Beer-Substitute. |
| 00:34.10 | initech | dat: set gid or uid |
| 00:34.13 | cafuego | wpostma_: I thought it was yeast-water |
| 00:34.16 | MattS | ahahaha fuckers ya. i rebooted the machine and just loaded 8139too. and the damn nic works now |
| 00:34.37 | MattS | whats the syntax for route (and where do i put this to make it perminant) to set my default gateway? |
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| 00:34.46 | cafuego | MattS: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:34.50 | MattS | thx cafuego |
| 00:34.54 | nvz | cafuego: actually raising the gravity means lifting the tube and drawing in air with gravity |
| 00:34.55 | arthur | boot sr0:boot/linux init=/????? anyone know where on the install cd the program i should use as init is???? |
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| 00:35.13 | cafuego | MattS: Next time you load a drivr, unload the non-working one first. |
| 00:35.21 | sun_ | cafuego, i have aptitude, dont have apt-file? |
| 00:35.30 | cafuego | sun_: install it,t then |
| 00:35.42 | wpostma_ | Okay, this is annoying. I have a Radeon All-In-Wonder 9000, and in kernel 2.6.0, any version, I've tried every one, the ATI driver can't restore text mode, after you enter GUI mode, hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 gets you a screen with a bit of graphical noise, but no text. |
| 00:35.57 | cafuego | wpostma_: enable or disable UseFBDev in X. |
| 00:36.39 | Gujiz | Nyle done |
| 00:36.41 | initech | wpostma_: unload the fb driver, it doesn't work worth a shit |
| 00:36.44 | arthur | what is the name of the debian install program and where on the cd dose it reside???? |
| 00:37.02 | initech | wpostma_: at least not if you are running X |
| 00:37.04 | Gujiz | this asks 'configuring console data' what i answer ? |
| 00:37.07 | misfitx7 | Wyzard, i reloaded 2.6.8 image |
| 00:37.30 | wpostma_ | cafuego, that's in XF86Config-4 right? It was on, so I turned it off. Hope that helps. |
| 00:37.32 | misfitx7 | prism54 seems to load fine now |
| 00:37.40 | Wyzard | misfitx7: cool |
| 00:37.40 | zirikili | how do I know the version of some installed package? |
| 00:37.42 | Gujiz | don't touch keymap ? select keymap from list ? keep kernel keymap or select keymap from full list ? |
| 00:37.53 | misfitx7 | but the card still doesnt work |
| 00:37.53 | initech | wpostma_: i hope you are using the "radeon" driver in X (or was it "ati" now?) |
| 00:37.57 | sun_ | cafuego, sorry nothing seems to find the unix utility "strings" which looks for strings in a binary |
| 00:38.06 | EX_MACHINA | If nobody can help me with my wireless, can they at least explain to me what this script on this website means,http://www.well.com/~ralf/linux_on_sony_vaio_grt170.html. Im only just beginning to learn Linux, and I have never seen anything that requires manually scripting it, so I dont know how to go about this. |
| 00:38.10 | Wyzard | misfitx7: Install the "wireless-tools" package and read the manpage for iwconfig |
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| 00:38.34 | wpostma_ | EX_MACHINA, read the Wireless Howto. |
| 00:38.46 | initech | sun_: "strings" is in binutils |
| 00:39.00 | wpostma_ | initech, I was using the Radeon driver. It works fine in 2.4.24, just 2.6.x fbdev is screwed, apparently. |
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| 00:39.19 | arthur | what is the name of the debian install program and where on the cd dose it reside???? |
| 00:39.40 | arthur | dose anyone know what the name is? or have any clue |
| 00:39.46 | EX_MACHINA | wpostma_; IVe been doing so much reading for the past three days, my eyes feel like they are bleeding. |
| 00:39.50 | initech | wpostma_: don't use fbdev in X, it's mainly for non-x86 arches. the console fb driver is another matter, and it doesn't work very well. Do you have radeonfb loaded? |
| 00:40.00 | arthur | im searching the cd for what to use as init |
| 00:40.07 | Wyzard | arthur: Usually you just boot the CD |
| 00:40.20 | arthur | on an plpha you have to specify |
| 00:40.25 | arthur | alpha |
| 00:40.32 | arthur | cant type |
| 00:40.40 | Wyzard | ah |
| 00:40.54 | Wyzard | I'd read the Debian install docs for that platform, then |
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| 00:41.21 | arthur | :( the install docs are tragically out dated on this |
| 00:41.26 | arthur | as far as i can tell |
| 00:41.30 | Gujiz | Nyle what i do now ? |
| 00:41.45 | wpostma_ | arthur, are you talking about the boot-prompt on the Alpha ? |
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| 00:42.19 | Nyle | you have dist-upgrade'ed |
| 00:42.27 | Gujiz | yep |
| 00:42.43 | arthur | im using milo |
| 00:42.55 | genixpro | I misread the error. UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME, not UNBOOTABLE PARTITION. big difference. |
| 00:42.58 | arthur | and attempting to figure out what kernel peramaters ato pass |
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| 00:43.20 | Nyle | now, apt-cache install kernel-image-XXXX |
| 00:43.29 | Nyle | pick your cpu architectuer and kernel version |
| 00:43.31 | mythsmith | well, Nyle, jetscreamer, it happened a strange thing... i rebooted, now alsamixer works... but on the wrong card!!! It is working on the Brooktree Bt878, that is my tv card... |
| 00:43.44 | Nyle | LOL |
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| 00:43.53 | Nyle | er.. |
| 00:43.54 | Nyle | wtf |
| 00:43.57 | Nyle | brain fart |
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| 00:44.02 | misfitx7 | Wyzard, it doesnt seem to be detecting the card |
| 00:44.15 | Gujiz | Nyle where i know them ? :P |
| 00:44.18 | Nyle | Gujiz, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 00:44.31 | Gujiz | ok :) |
| 00:44.36 | Nyle | Gujiz, apt-cache search kernel-image |grep 2.6.8 |
| 00:44.40 | Nyle | pick one and install |
| 00:45.14 | Gujiz | i have to go toilet, sec |
| 00:45.51 | Nyle | Gujiz, after all the updates, if you wish to free up more diskspace, type apt-get clean, it will delete the downloaded packages from the hd, unless you think u need them again |
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| 00:48.09 | MajorPoopyPants | I was wondering how to stop my damn firewall messages from logging to the console... |
| 00:48.26 | mst | run syslog? |
| 00:48.40 | MajorPoopyPants | I am running syslog silly |
| 00:48.43 | initech | MajorPoopyPants: man syslog.conf |
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| 00:49.07 | mythsmith | any idea? i installed also jackd: amogn other outputs i get "cannot load driver module alsa" |
| 00:49.27 | wpostma | Is there a nice way to get a different /etc/modules file when I boot a 2.6 kernel than when I boot a 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:49.31 | MajorPoopyPants | initech, the syslog.conf man page will tell me how ot make my firewall stop logging its messages to the console screen? |
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| 00:49.44 | initech | MajorPoopyPants: yup |
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| 00:49.48 | Gujiz | Nyle Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 00:49.55 | Nyle | its not a package |
| 00:50.10 | Nyle | read what i said above |
| 00:50.14 | Nyle | what cpu do you have? |
| 00:50.16 | initech | MajorPoopyPants: search for console, then have a look at /etc/syslog.conf |
| 00:50.29 | insanekane | is it possible, given a .deb, to replace one file in that deb with another one, without having to build from source deb ? |
| 00:50.31 | wpostma | Everytime I boot the system takes 3 minutes to run an fsck on a DOS filesystem, I reboot cleanly, but it still does it. What do I try? |
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| 00:50.35 | mythsmith | Gujiz:try kernel-image-2.6.8-386 |
| 00:50.38 | Gujiz | Nyle Intel Celeron |
| 00:50.47 | bet1m | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.49 | bet1m | bash: make-kpkg: command not found |
| 00:50.51 | bet1m | what i need ?? |
| 00:51.11 | Nyle | if you have a pro/celeron/p2/ or above use the kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 |
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| 00:51.58 | wpostma | AH. No radeonfb, and no problem anymore. THANKS. |
| 00:52.07 | MajorPoopyPants | initech, you were way wrong there jerky |
| 00:52.09 | Gujiz | apt-cache install kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 |
| 00:52.16 | Gujiz | that is what i need to write ? |
| 00:52.22 | MajorPoopyPants | If you're simply trying to get it off your console, it's better to edit |
| 00:52.22 | MajorPoopyPants | /etc/init.d/klogd and add "-c 4" to the line that starts KLOGD=. |
| 00:52.28 | Nyle | Gujiz, only one way to find out :) |
| 00:52.34 | Gujiz | it wont work :P |
| 00:52.38 | Nyle | it should |
| 00:52.39 | Gujiz | Invalid operation install |
| 00:52.57 | Nyle | you search with apt-cache, but you install with apt-get |
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| 00:53.12 | Nyle | try apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 |
| 00:53.30 | bet1m | make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot modules_image,, bash: make-kpkg: command not found > what i need to get ?? |
| 00:53.31 | Gujiz | works ;) |
| 00:53.35 | MajorPoopyPants | Im going ot go eat |
| 00:53.48 | Gujiz | this Nyle is linux-machine ;) |
| 00:53.52 | MajorPoopyPants | initech, thanks for trying ot help, just wanted to get some ribbing in there |
| 00:53.55 | Nyle | not by a long shot |
| 00:54.02 | Nyle | its my 3rd week using linux |
| 00:54.09 | Gujiz | wtf :D |
| 00:54.13 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:54.17 | Nyle | i have a lot of time to read |
| 00:54.20 | Nyle | hehe |
| 00:54.31 | Gujiz | 3 weeks... ;) |
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| 00:54.39 | Nyle | well around 3 weeks |
| 00:54.54 | Nyle | the channel bot logs most active users, it probably logged the date i first joined here |
| 00:54.57 | bet1m | !dpkg nvidia |
| 00:54.57 | dpkg | methinks nvidia is To learn how to install nvidia drivers on your Debian system see 'nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs'. That should explain all you need to know. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 00:54.59 | Gujiz | if i have to quess i have said 3 years :D |
| 00:55.09 | initech | well i guess he logged out |
| 00:55.12 | Nyle | well, it all depends on how much one WANTS to learn |
| 00:55.19 | Gujiz | :) |
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| 00:55.38 | Nyle | plus what i helpled you with was very simple |
| 00:55.45 | Nyle | just a typical installation/upgrading |
| 00:55.56 | Nyle | there are far more complex problems people come here with |
| 00:56.08 | distilled | mmm |
| 00:56.11 | distilled | mysql 4.1 |
| 00:56.13 | distilled | and php5 |
| 00:56.15 | Gujiz | nyle join flood :) |
| 00:56.43 | nvz | Nyle: debian is alot different than most other prehistoric distros.. back before the day of live linux |
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| 00:57.27 | Nyle | well i have had experience with bsd a lot back in highschool |
| 00:57.40 | Nyle | so im not totally newb on unix |
| 00:58.01 | arthur | to answer my previous question the name of the debian installer seems to be dbootstrap |
| 00:58.08 | Nyle | arthur, yes |
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| 00:58.22 | jetscreamer | bet1m, apt-get install kernel-package build-essential |
| 00:58.34 | Gujiz | Nyle it made error |
| 00:58.37 | cafuego | I want new software versions that debian doesn't have coz their version number is higher! |
| 00:58.40 | initech | arthur: the new one is "debian-installer" the old one is "boot-floppies" |
| 00:58.42 | ElSebas | it is posible to compile and install a kernel using a diferent name that vmlinuz, which file can i edit to change vmlinuz to other name? |
| 00:59.01 | cafuego | ElSebas: Why don't you rename it after it finishes compiling? |
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| 00:59.16 | Obilan | elsebas normally vmlinuz is just a link to the real kernel |
| 00:59.38 | jetscreamer | but it's /boot/vmlinuz-blah that the symlink /vmlinuz points to |
| 01:00.01 | bet1m | jetscreamer, im trying :) |
| 01:00.03 | initech | why do you care about what name the kernel has? |
| 01:00.09 | jetscreamer | that too |
| 01:00.27 | jetscreamer | initech, because he wants it to look different in his lilo menu :) |
| 01:00.40 | initech | actually the real name of 2.6.8 is "zonked quokka" I think |
| 01:00.43 | jetscreamer | watch |
| 01:00.46 | cafuego | initech: Coz kernel /boot/ntoskrnl.exe root=/dev/hda1 sounds cooler. |
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| 01:00.58 | bet1m | jetscreamer, when apt-get finish, i need to probe: make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot modules_image |
| 01:01.01 | Nyle | Gujiz, kernel errors are beyond my knowldege |
| 01:01.23 | Gujiz | and what i do now ? |
| 01:01.26 | Nyle | nothing |
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| 01:01.28 | Nyle | it works right |
| 01:01.31 | Gujiz | :) |
| 01:01.34 | Gujiz | its new kernel? |
| 01:01.37 | Nyle | now u do what u gotta do |
| 01:01.43 | Gujiz | install php :D |
| 01:01.43 | Nyle | also apt-get clean |
| 01:01.46 | initech | all the 2.6 kernels have marsupial themed names |
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| 01:02.01 | Nyle | since u only have 20gb |
| 01:02.08 | Gujiz | yeah :P |
| 01:02.09 | Nyle | which is ample |
| 01:02.11 | Nyle | but still |
| 01:02.15 | Gujiz | now apt-get install php4 ? |
| 01:02.17 | Nyle | if ur a byte pincher |
| 01:02.18 | Nyle | lol |
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| 01:02.23 | jetscreamer | bet1m, if you wanted, but me i just cd /usr/src/kernel-source-blah and make-kpkg --targets, just to look, then make-kpkg --append-to-version=blah kernel_image (add --initrd to taste) |
| 01:02.26 | Nyle | Gujiz, yes |
| 01:02.35 | ElSebas | in other words, there are some file in the kernel source that indicate the name of the result kernel, and the name of the directory for the modules? |
| 01:02.36 | Nyle | Gujiz, yes and php4-common |
| 01:02.47 | Nyle | it should install with all dependencies |
| 01:02.47 | Gujiz | ok :P |
| 01:02.55 | jetscreamer | ElSebas, the makefile maybe? |
| 01:03.13 | ElSebas | i will see it |
| 01:03.24 | Nyle | without even having to mention -common |
| 01:03.28 | initech | ElSebas: the kernel is always called bzImage or zImage when done. what it's called after copied to /boot is arbitrary |
| 01:03.33 | jetscreamer | as root though bet1m , so the fakeroot thing i guess |
| 01:03.44 | bet1m | jetscreamer, of course :) |
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| 01:04.18 | Gujiz | Nyle i have done that |
| 01:04.21 | bet1m | im waiting ...compiling kernel |
| 01:04.25 | Gujiz | but php still wont work :D |
| 01:04.26 | ElSebas | if find it! |
| 01:04.30 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:04.31 | ElSebas | in the Makefile |
| 01:04.38 | cafuego | Gujiz: Offer it a payrise |
| 01:04.38 | ElSebas | the parameter EXTRAVERSION |
| 01:04.54 | Gujiz | cafuego ok, i try ;) |
| 01:05.03 | jetscreamer | man, make-kpkg --targets looks really tight in an xterm |
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| 01:05.05 | Nyle | Gujiz, someone earlier had the same problem |
| 01:05.14 | Nyle | I don't know what to do now sorry |
| 01:05.23 | initech | jetscreamer: d00d, that is 1337 |
| 01:05.32 | jetscreamer | ElSebas, i think you can add that directive to your command line |
| 01:05.36 | Gujiz | its, ok you have used long time helping me ! |
| 01:05.47 | Gujiz | and thx for that |
| 01:06.03 | ElSebas | jetscreamer, may be posible |
| 01:06.05 | Nyle | sure, when you learn enough linux, come back here and help somebody else out, you'd have repayed me |
| 01:06.06 | Nyle | :) |
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| 01:06.23 | cafuego | Alternatively, send me your address and I'll invoice you. |
| 01:06.23 | neonmagic | hahaha |
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| 01:06.54 | mythsmith | is it normal that /dev/dsp is a symlink to /dev/dsp1? |
| 01:07.05 | jetscreamer | probably |
| 01:07.05 | cafuego | I don't need no steekin output, unless the compile fails. |
| 01:07.06 | Nyle | life sucks, all my friends went home for thanksgiving, and i am out of pot |
| 01:07.07 | jdhutchin1 | mythsmith, yes |
| 01:07.07 | Nyle | :( |
| 01:07.20 | neonmagic | pot is no good for you anyways |
| 01:07.33 | jetscreamer | you can't tell though, it's very insidious |
| 01:07.41 | initech | neonmagic: it is't bad for you either |
| 01:07.48 | neonmagic | ahh yes it is |
| 01:07.50 | Gujiz | is there any command to list all pagages what i have installed with apt-get ? |
| 01:07.51 | jetscreamer | actually, it is, in a way |
| 01:08.00 | jetscreamer | but not as bad as whiskey |
| 01:08.04 | cafuego | initech: Depends on how much you have. it can be good for you if used in moderation. |
| 01:08.05 | mythsmith | Nyle: well, here there isn't any thanksgiving... |
| 01:08.05 | bet1m | Gujiz, aptitude |
| 01:08.07 | Nyle | no, except for smoking it, carcenogenics and carbon monoxide, thats all |
| 01:08.09 | Obilan | gujiz dpkg -l |
| 01:08.10 | initech | neonmagic: being a teetotaler is also bad for you ;) |
| 01:08.10 | brlancer | in a way? you're inhaling smoke - it's pretty obvious, I think |
| 01:08.18 | cafuego | I've seen what prolonged heavy use does to people. it's not pretty. |
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| 01:08.23 | jetscreamer | !dict insidious |
| 01:08.23 | neonmagic | destroys your whole digestive tract, much larger increase in schizophrenic behaviour |
| 01:08.23 | Nyle | and also mylin sheath destructin on the nerugon's cell body |
| 01:08.25 | dpkg | Dictionary 'insidious' (2 shown; 7 total): beguiling but harmful; "insidious pleasures" ;; Insidious \In*sid"i*ous\, a. [L. insidiosus, fr. insidiae an ambush, fr. insidere to sit in; pref. in- + sedere to sit: cf. F. insidieux. See Sit.] 1. Lying in wait; watching an opportunity to insnare or entrap; deceitful; sly; treacherous; -- said of persons; as, the insidious foe. ``The insidious witch.'' --Cowper.. |
| 01:08.32 | Nyle | destroys your short term memory |
| 01:08.43 | Gujiz | wtf, i have php3 installed too :P |
| 01:08.47 | neonmagic | mines already shot nyle |
| 01:08.53 | cafuego | Nyle: Not so much as makes you paranoid |
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| 01:08.59 | Nyle | that too |
| 01:09.03 | jetscreamer | heh no that's coke |
| 01:09.05 | initech | jeez, everything in moderation |
| 01:09.19 | jetscreamer | lsd25 eh |
| 01:09.20 | Nyle | initech, word |
| 01:09.25 | neonmagic | yeah, but i've seen a lot of guys start light on pot, and after a few years they're super heavy on it |
| 01:09.26 | ElSebas | somebody can send me a good list of repository for apt-get? |
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| 01:09.35 | Obilan | a good list? |
| 01:09.38 | cafuego | neonmagic: That's THEIR fault. |
| 01:09.38 | Nyle | i smoke a quarter of khan budd a day |
| 01:09.39 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:09.48 | cafuego | neonmagic: Not an inherent badness of pot. |
| 01:09.53 | distilled | bud is great |
| 01:09.58 | initech | Nyle: dude, that's a shitload of pot smoking |
| 01:10.04 | Nyle | yeh |
| 01:10.05 | Nyle | i know |
| 01:10.09 | Nyle | im about ot quit tho |
| 01:10.14 | brlancer | cafuego: do you recognize that inhaling smoke has an *inherent* danger? |
| 01:10.17 | Nyle | i have to |
| 01:10.23 | ElSebas | Obilan: i need a confiable repository |
| 01:10.24 | Nyle | for naturalization purposes |
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| 01:10.28 | jetscreamer | i just broke the only fuckin pair of glasses i have left |
| 01:10.29 | Myren | i miss my old hardcore smoking days. |
| 01:10.29 | Nyle | not a us citizen yet |
| 01:10.37 | initech | brlancer: you don't have to smoke it |
| 01:10.38 | Gujiz | what is apt-del command syntax ? |
| 01:10.41 | cafuego | brlancer: Yep. But I don't consider it *more* dangerous then living in a city and breathing smog 24/7 |
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| 01:10.56 | green_earz | neonmagic: the meaning of the term > schizophrenic > broken heart |
| 01:10.58 | Nyle | Gujiz, apt-get remove <package name> |
| 01:11.02 | mythsmith | there is another part of the artsd output i didn't said. Maybe it can be useful: unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/mcop-daniele/localhost-12e4-41a7d422) |
| 01:11.20 | neonmagic | like a lot of drugs, pot loses it' |
| 01:11.21 | brlancer | initech: what method would you prefer? |
| 01:11.21 | Obilan | elsebas try apt-setup |
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| 01:11.35 | neonmagic | s effectiveness are X amount of use, and to get the same buzz you have to up the dosage |
| 01:11.37 | ElSebas | Obilan thanks! |
| 01:11.45 | brlancer | cafuego: cutting off your arm may be less damaging than cutting off your head, but they're both damaging |
| 01:11.53 | Nyle | Gujiz, also you can use the --purge switch to delete the configuratio file a package leaves behind. try to read the manual page for apt, man apt, man apt-get |
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| 01:12.09 | neonmagic | i used to go to tafe with a guy who'd have 2 cones b4 leaving home at 7 in the morning, another 2 when he got to tafe, and another 3 at lunch, then another 2 at the end of tafe, then go home and have more |
| 01:12.15 | nvz | Nyle: last time I checked, high and deported is better than sober and dead |
| 01:12.23 | Nyle | nvz, word |
| 01:12.24 | cafuego | brlancer: All I'm saying is warning of a danger (inhaling smoke) and forgetting you breathe polluted crap all day every day is a bit silly. |
| 01:12.33 | brlancer | cafuego: and for the record, my asthma is far more pronounced around smokers in rural areas than it ever was in the city |
| 01:12.42 | brlancer | YMMV |
| 01:12.43 | cafuego | brlancer: pollen, yes. |
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| 01:12.52 | Nyle | my dubout is empty |
| 01:12.57 | guestish | hi |
| 01:13.00 | Nyle | dugout |
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| 01:13.34 | cafuego | ANyway, provided you're in the open air there's no reason you ever need to be close enough to a smoker to smell their smoke. |
| 01:13.44 | Nyle | i hate cig |
| 01:13.48 | Nyle | with a passion |
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| 01:13.55 | neonmagic | i have to laugh at the government bodies that bitch about smoking, but they won't ban it (they get too much mony in tax from it)...and the health side of it..bleh...you breathe in more shit from car exhaust that cigarette smokers (and i'm a non smoker) |
| 01:13.57 | cafuego | Go stand up-wind then. |
| 01:14.02 | Gujiz | Nyle can i install php manually ? |
| 01:14.13 | Nyle | Gujiz, i dunno, i have never used php |
| 01:14.19 | Gujiz | okok ;) |
| 01:14.26 | Nyle | Gujiz, if a debian package exists, use that instead |
| 01:14.29 | neonmagic | if governments are that concerned with the shit that we breathe in they should ban cars, trucks, buses and cigarettes |
| 01:14.41 | Gujiz | apt-get remove php3 |
| 01:14.44 | neonmagic | oh and horse farts |
| 01:14.51 | Gujiz | wont remove that php3 package :O |
| 01:14.52 | acetech | can someone help with configuring sound to work in totem or gmplayer? |
| 01:14.56 | Nyle | its php4 |
| 01:14.57 | Nyle | :) |
| 01:15.13 | cafuego | or possibly libapache-mod-php4 |
| 01:15.34 | mythsmith | well, goodnigth and thank you all. Tomorrow (that is today, sigh) will try to speak with those guys at the #alsa channel and see if I'll finally be able to listen music. It's irritating to switch to windows everytime I want sound. |
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| 01:15.55 | Nyle | apache-common apache-utils libapache-mod-php4 php4 php4-common <-- install these, you maybe suffering from a missing dependency |
| 01:15.56 | mythsmith | night, sorry |
| 01:16.03 | Nyle | these are what php4 depends on |
| 01:16.04 | cafuego | night? |
| 01:16.06 | grozniy | acetech: i am new in debian, but got totem playing music and dvd so may be i can help you |
| 01:16.08 | cafuego | at lunchtime? |
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| 01:16.30 | Gujiz | Nyle it looks like i have php3 installed too :P |
| 01:16.38 | Nyle | that can also do it |
| 01:16.38 | Gujiz | it reads in the list :P |
| 01:16.41 | Nyle | maybe |
| 01:16.47 | Gujiz | but i cant remove it :P |
| 01:17.00 | Nyle | why not? |
| 01:17.07 | Gujiz | it just wont remove |
| 01:17.21 | Gujiz | i write apt-get remove php3 |
| 01:17.21 | Nyle | hold on |
| 01:17.22 | neonmagic | what's the output of apt-get? |
| 01:17.22 | Nyle | php3 |
| 01:17.30 | Randex | my friend had installed linux on hios system a few months ago and hasnt used it since... he now forgot his passwords (user and root) is there any way to get them back without a reinstall? |
| 01:17.35 | Nyle | where did u find php3 |
| 01:17.40 | Randex | his* even |
| 01:17.42 | grozniy | acetech: what's the problem? |
| 01:17.44 | cafuego | Randex: Yes. |
| 01:17.45 | Gujiz | i dont know :P |
| 01:17.56 | neonmagic | try: linux single |
| 01:17.57 | Nyle | nm |
| 01:18.00 | neonmagic | and then passwd |
| 01:18.03 | neonmagic | to change the root p/w |
| 01:18.03 | Gujiz | i founded it with command dpkg -l |
| 01:18.07 | Justin | Randex: does your "friend" know how to use google? |
| 01:18.15 | Randex | yes he does |
| 01:18.20 | cafuego | Randex: Boot with 'init=/bin/sh' as param. Wait until you geta shell, edit /etc/shadow and remove root's ps field. |
| 01:18.23 | Randex | ive already looked for him |
| 01:18.35 | cafuego | s/ps/pw/ |
| 01:18.46 | initech | Randex: boot the debian cd in rescue mode, get a shell, mount the root filesystem on the disk, change root to the filesystem that is the root filesystem, and use passwd to change them |
| 01:18.53 | Nyle | Gujiz, install apache-common apache-utils with php3 |
| 01:18.56 | Justin | cafuego: that sort of leaves out a few steps |
| 01:19.01 | Gujiz | ok |
| 01:19.06 | Randex | ok thanks |
| 01:19.13 | cafuego | Justin: only ythe reboot step, login step and set new pw step. |
| 01:19.14 | Justin | !+i forgot root's password |
| 01:19.15 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f; For GRUB (e.g. sarge): in step 1, you need to press 'e' and edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), then 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 01:19.18 | Gujiz | so i write now apt-get install apache-common ? |
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| 01:19.42 | Nyle | apt-get install apache-common apache-utils php3 |
| 01:20.01 | initech | Randex: there you go that method is simpler |
| 01:20.02 | Nyle | u can install multiple packages if you seperate the names with a space :) |
| 01:20.14 | Justin | why would anyone ever install apache-common? |
| 01:20.18 | Randex | thanks :P |
| 01:20.44 | Gujiz | Nyle not working :/ |
| 01:20.52 | Nyle | Justin, it seems to be a dependency for php3 |
| 01:21.08 | Nyle | i don't know what im talking about |
| 01:21.17 | acetech | is there any way to recover a file after deleting from wastebasket? |
| 01:21.18 | Justin | Nyle: since when does apt-get require you to tell it what the dependencies are? |
| 01:21.27 | Justin | !tell Gujiz about didn't work |
| 01:21.28 | Nyle | i looked on synaptic |
| 01:21.53 | BlastuR | is it safe to repoint /dev/audio to /dev/audio1 instead of /dev/audio0 if I want to use it as my primary playback device? or is there a tool to do such thing? (are there more places in the system i need to update?) |
| 01:21.57 | Nyle | and it doens't |
| 01:21.59 | Nyle | you misunderstand |
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| 01:22.15 | Gujiz | hmm, i try to remove all apache and php packages |
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| 01:22.50 | acetech | can i undelete something after being removed from .Trash? |
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| 01:23.37 | YoMismo | my sound is broken on sid |
| 01:23.52 | Nyle | YoMismo, superglue |
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| 01:24.37 | Gujiz | php-support installing cannot be this difficult :P |
| 01:24.42 | Cueball_Laptop | Hey. How can I kill off some ghost connections? They were port 8080 using Squid but squid seg faulted and now it wont start because of there |
| 01:24.55 | Cueball_Laptop | these connections * |
| 01:25.11 | Compound-4 | so ihr lieben,ich gehe schlafen |
| 01:25.13 | Nyle | i maybe wrong, but kill hup inet |
| 01:25.16 | Nyle | perhaps |
| 01:25.25 | Cueball_Laptop | Ok I'll try |
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| 01:25.37 | Nyle | that restarts the inet |
| 01:25.55 | darkskiez | inetd and squid are not related |
| 01:26.07 | Nyle | ok |
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| 01:26.10 | Nyle | then i was wrong |
| 01:26.12 | darkskiez | killall squid |
| 01:26.12 | YoMismo | it says : Can't open output file '/dev/audio': No such device but /dev/audio is there |
| 01:26.12 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: you'll need to reset them somehow... squid doesn't run from inetd though. what state are they in? (netstat -a) |
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| 01:26.19 | Gujiz | i try to restart my server ? |
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| 01:26.23 | Gujiz | might work ? |
| 01:26.35 | darkskiez | Cueball: it'll probably be fine in a minute if you have definately killed all squid processes. |
| 01:26.36 | Nyle | Gujiz, thats a microsoft thing |
| 01:26.37 | MerlinCorey | Gujiz: there is usually another way :) |
| 01:26.45 | Gujiz | :) |
| 01:26.45 | MerlinCorey | Gujiz: welcome to unix :P |
| 01:26.57 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: they should eventually go away in any case |
| 01:27.07 | Misirlou | !german |
| 01:27.07 | dpkg | [german] #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 01:27.14 | Misirlou | Compound-4: ^^ |
| 01:27.17 | Gujiz | yesterday i think php is easiest part installing :P |
| 01:27.25 | Cueball_Laptop | initech: Some are Close_wait some are Established |
| 01:27.30 | Nyle | kill hup squid |
| 01:27.35 | Nyle | instead of killall |
| 01:27.37 | Nyle | no? |
| 01:27.46 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: established? and squid is not running at all? |
| 01:27.48 | darkskiez | Nyle: no. |
| 01:27.52 | Gujiz | i try to uninstall apache too |
| 01:27.54 | Nyle | why is that? |
| 01:28.04 | Nyle | isn't he just restarting squid |
| 01:28.08 | Justin | Gujiz: maybe you should bother to tell anyone what your problem is |
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| 01:28.10 | darkskiez | Nyle: no. |
| 01:28.12 | Nyle | oh |
| 01:28.19 | Cueball_Laptop | ps -A | grep squid returns no results |
| 01:28.24 | initech | Nyle: it isn't running, so you can't hup it anyway |
| 01:28.28 | Nyle | oh |
| 01:28.31 | Nyle | i thought it was running |
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| 01:29.12 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: weird - you could try using something like hping to reset every connection, or reboot |
| 01:29.13 | Gujiz | i write dpkg -l |
| 01:29.24 | bet1m | make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot modules_image,,,,,, image okay but when i # dpkg --install nvidia-kernel-2.6.9-ck3_1.0.6629-1+10.00.Custom_i386.deb.... i see some errors pkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-kernel-2.6.9-ck3: |
| 01:29.24 | bet1m | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.24 | bet1m | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.30 | Gujiz | but how can i see all, i see only half of packages :P |
| 01:29.38 | Nyle | initech, wouldnt restarting inetd rest all the connections? |
| 01:29.43 | Nyle | reset* |
| 01:29.44 | Justin | Gujiz: use aptitude. |
| 01:29.57 | Cueball_Laptop | initech: I'll just reboot. |
| 01:30.01 | initech | Nyle: no - and squid does not run from inetd unless he set it up that way |
| 01:30.06 | Nyle | ahh |
| 01:30.15 | Justin | bet1m: uh, install nvidia-kernel-common? |
| 01:30.24 | bet1m | how ?? |
| 01:30.35 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: are you using the debian packages? what branch? |
| 01:30.37 | Justin | bet1m: how do you think? |
| 01:30.38 | acetech | is ext3 still considered ext2fs? |
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| 01:30.51 | Justin | acetech: no, its considered ext3fs |
| 01:30.59 | Cueball_Laptop | initech: Using Woody |
| 01:31.13 | bet1m | Justin, how to install nvidia-common ? |
| 01:31.13 | Nyle | so if i wanted to restart my internet connection, not the pc, what would i do, say i wanted to end all the connections and re establish them |
| 01:31.22 | initech | Cueball_Laptop: and the debian squid package segfaulted on you? |
| 01:31.27 | acetech | Justin, the midnight commander says ext2fs for undelete... |
| 01:31.38 | acetech | is there an ext3 undelete? |
| 01:32.04 | RichiH | an ext2 undelete should work with ext3 too, i guess |
| 01:32.12 | Cueball_Laptop | It is to do with my server. It's been unstable recently. Need a new mobo :( |
| 01:32.21 | RichiH | after all, all ext3 does is add an extra journal |
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| 01:32.36 | Justin | !+ext3 faq |
| 01:32.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ext3 faq is http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html |
| 01:32.38 | Justin | might help |
| 01:32.53 | Justin | though google + ext3 faq would probably work better than that link |
| 01:32.55 | bet1m | Justin, how to install nvidia-common,,, using apt-get or ? |
| 01:33.15 | acetech | RichiH, this is what i fugure too... and you use ext2fs to create with -j option |
| 01:33.15 | Nyle | !nvidia |
| 01:33.15 | dpkg | methinks nvidia is To learn how to install nvidia drivers on your Debian system see 'nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs'. That should explain all you need to know. http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 01:33.22 | Justin | bet1m: who said anything about nvidia-common? |
| 01:33.41 | Justin | bet1m: why do you need someone to tell you how to install a package? |
| 01:34.14 | Gujiz | now i dont have apache anymore, what apache/php i install (again) :D |
| 01:34.22 | Justin | !+wayttd Gujiz |
| 01:34.23 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Gujiz? |
| 01:34.25 | Nyle | Gujiz, i give :) |
| 01:34.38 | Nyle | he wants php support |
| 01:34.45 | Nyle | in a nutshell |
| 01:34.51 | Gujiz | :) |
| 01:35.09 | Justin | Gujiz: if you waned apache and php, why did you remove apache and php? |
| 01:35.12 | bet1m | # apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common,,,,,,,, Package nvidia-kernel-common is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 01:35.16 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:35.30 | Gujiz | Justin those versions wont work |
| 01:35.36 | Gujiz | that's the reason ;) |
| 01:35.40 | Nyle | wont' work meaning? |
| 01:36.03 | Nyle | any error messages? a php script won't run? whats going on |
| 01:36.11 | Gujiz | php scripts wont run |
| 01:36.19 | Justin | !tell Gujiz about didn't work |
| 01:36.41 | Justin | !+info nvidia-kernel-common |
| 01:36.42 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 01:36.53 | dpkg | nvidia-kernel-common: (NVIDIA binary kernel module common files), section contrib/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.6629+1 (sid), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 01:37.03 | bob2 | so, Fabric sucks arse |
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| 01:39.11 | initech | bob2: ? |
| 01:39.13 | Gujiz | now i try install manually :P |
| 01:39.36 | bob2 | initech: a club in london |
| 01:39.44 | Nyle | Gujiz, if a debian package for php exits, use that instead of manual |
| 01:40.04 | Gujiz | but that wont work, so i have to try this ;) |
| 01:40.13 | Gujiz | this is only way :) |
| 01:40.23 | Nyle | ok dude |
| 01:40.24 | Nyle | good luck |
| 01:40.32 | Gujiz | thx, i gona need it ;) |
| 01:41.10 | initech | Gujiz: dude, just install php4 will you |
| 01:41.16 | Justin | Gujiz: of course, rather than actually take 30 seconds to set up php properly, you will spend hours recompiling apache and php |
| 01:41.30 | Nyle | how do I run a program in background, so that even after I log off and my brother logs on, my program is still running |
| 01:41.31 | Xinukid | eh? |
| 01:41.32 | Gujiz | Justin but those just wont work :P |
| 01:41.49 | initech | Nyle: nohup, or screen if you want to be elite |
| 01:41.50 | Nyle | Gujiz, i got a feeling yer about to get bitched at |
| 01:42.04 | Gujiz | justin say what i do another way ? "apt-get install apache2" "apt-get install php4" |
| 01:42.06 | Nyle | initech i add nohup after the program name? |
| 01:42.07 | Justin | Gujiz: MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP WHINING THAT IT DOESN'T WORK AND BOTHER TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT IS WRONG |
| 01:42.14 | initech | Nyle: before |
| 01:42.18 | bob2 | Gujiz: lord |
| 01:42.20 | Nyle | oh ok |
| 01:42.22 | Nyle | thanks |
| 01:42.29 | bob2 | Gujiz: you want libapache2-mod-php4, surprisingly |
| 01:42.52 | Xinukid | what debian is he running? |
| 01:43.19 | Justin | !+info apache2 woody |
| 01:43.20 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 01:43.28 | initech | Gujiz: you never said you were running apache2 before |
| 01:43.28 | Xinukid | woody? |
| 01:43.30 | dpkg | Package 'apache2' does not exist. |
| 01:43.32 | Justin | not woody |
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| 01:43.38 | Xinukid | sarge? |
| 01:43.52 | bob2 | it'd be awesome if Gujiz told us |
| 01:43.55 | Nyle | initech, what does running in the bg actually mean, its self explanatory, yes, but I was wondering, if i start a program with nohup, will i be able to use it in forground, and send it to background at will and then log off |
| 01:43.56 | bob2 | instead of making everyone guess |
| 01:44.05 | bob2 | Nyle: no |
| 01:44.06 | bob2 | use screen |
| 01:44.10 | Nyle | ok |
| 01:44.15 | Nyle | i read man screen? |
| 01:44.19 | initech | Nyle: yeah you might want to use screen then |
| 01:44.32 | bob2 | you just run "screen" |
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| 01:44.35 | bob2 | then run whatever |
| 01:44.39 | bob2 | then hit "ctrl-a d" |
| 01:44.40 | initech | Nyle: it lets you reattach any terminal to the process |
| 01:45.10 | Nyle | no man page, where can i find documentatio for the screen thingy |
| 01:45.18 | bob2 | bah |
| 01:45.21 | bob2 | it has a manpage |
| 01:45.24 | Nyle | i just wanna understand it better |
| 01:45.28 | Nyle | i tried man screen |
| 01:45.34 | bob2 | then you don't have screen installed |
| 01:45.35 | Gujiz | NOW I GOT IT ! |
| 01:45.36 | Nyle | oh |
| 01:45.37 | Gujiz | IT WORKS ! |
| 01:45.38 | Nyle | duh |
| 01:45.39 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:45.39 | Gujiz | :D |
| 01:45.45 | Gujiz | lets party :D |
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| 01:45.57 | Gujiz | http://gujiz.sytes.net/~antti/lol.php |
| 01:46.00 | bob2 | wow, lucky you rebuilt php and apache |
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| 01:46.14 | bob2 | installing pre-compiled modules is for retards who know how to ask questions |
| 01:46.38 | initech | is there a draft in here? sheesh |
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| 01:47.26 | Nyle | whoah screen is awesome |
| 01:47.51 | Matalo | hi i would like to know the name of package for advance word comletion with tab-key in bash |
| 01:48.02 | Matalo | i was using it in mandrake 10 |
| 01:48.06 | bob2 | read the faq |
| 01:48.15 | bob2 | and then edit /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 01:48.26 | bob2 | then file a bug asking the bash maintainer to turn it on by default |
| 01:48.45 | Nyle | bob2 had a nice day didnt he :) |
| 01:49.52 | Matalo | ok thank |
| 01:49.54 | Matalo | s |
| 01:50.25 | Justin | dpkg: 3 ^ .5 |
| 01:50.25 | dpkg | 3 |
| 01:50.31 | Justin | dpkg: 3 ** .5 |
| 01:50.31 | dpkg | 1.732050807569 |
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| 01:50.55 | Nyle | close |
| 01:51.44 | jan_ | hi, is there some think like tripwire that checks the md5sums orso from all files, installed from packages ? |
| 01:52.02 | bob2 | debsums |
| 01:52.04 | jan_ | so for example, executables provided by packages, are checked if they are not alterd |
| 01:52.21 | jan_ | thx |
| 01:52.30 | bob2 | but it's really useless |
| 01:52.39 | bob2 | since an attacker would just update the checksum, too |
| 01:52.43 | Nyle | all packages are clean, unlessunofficial |
| 01:52.46 | bob2 | good for accidental changes tho |
| 01:53.13 | jan_ | yes, but in combination with tripwire it could be quite ok :) |
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| 01:53.33 | acetech | anyone know how i can umount /home? |
| 01:53.36 | bob2 | tripwire is also shite |
| 01:53.40 | bob2 | acetech: don't |
| 01:53.44 | Nyle | acetech, man mount |
| 01:53.46 | bob2 | use aide or something |
| 01:53.54 | Nyle | acetech, man umount |
| 01:54.05 | bob2 | Nyle: that's such a spectacularily useless answer |
| 01:54.10 | bob2 | thanks for being so helpful |
| 01:54.18 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:54.19 | Nyle | sorry |
| 01:54.22 | jan_ | hmz, aide, never heard off |
| 01:54.28 | jan_ | thanks bob :) |
| 01:54.30 | Nyle | i was being cute |
| 01:54.38 | Nyle | :D |
| 01:54.44 | bob2 | cute like a kick in the head |
| 01:54.50 | bob2 | acetech: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:55.09 | acetech | im trying to undelete from a reserfs in /home |
| 01:55.17 | bob2 | hahahahaha |
| 01:55.20 | FieldySnuts | no such thing |
| 01:55.28 | bob2 | I hope you've remounted it ro already |
| 01:55.31 | initech | acetech: forget it |
| 01:55.32 | FieldySnuts | unless you want to pay a professional to do it |
| 01:55.45 | bob2 | anyway, kill all your user programs |
| 01:55.50 | bob2 | and "sudo init 1" |
| 01:55.53 | bob2 | and then pray |
| 01:56.05 | bob2 | pray like you're a very small monk about to be eaten by a grue |
| 01:56.13 | Nyle | ogre? |
| 01:56.22 | FieldySnuts | and consider backups in the future |
| 01:56.31 | FieldySnuts | speaking of that, time for my full system bacup |
| 01:56.37 | acetech | i have most of it backed up |
| 01:56.44 | acetech | from a couple moths ago |
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| 01:56.52 | FieldySnuts | sheesh. i backup twice a day |
| 01:57.09 | Nyle | i've never backed up anythin except 'dat ass' |
| 01:57.13 | initech | FieldySnuts: oh yeah? well I backup TEN times a day |
| 01:57.13 | FieldySnuts | ahah |
| 01:57.15 | acetech | lol |
| 01:57.20 | ResPiDeR | hey I put and script in /etc/cron.hourly and it isnt being executed.. why? |
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| 01:58.00 | initech | Nyle: if you backup dat ass, that means "yo ass" |
| 01:58.00 | Area-51 | when it says "mount: fs type xxx not supported by kernel" does that mean i need to load a module or recompile kernel? (debian testing, kernel 2.6.8) |
| 01:58.05 | Nyle | yeh |
| 01:58.10 | Nyle | i know |
| 01:58.18 | Nyle | joke on me, but still a joke |
| 01:58.20 | Nyle | :) |
| 01:58.37 | Justin | Area-51: it depends on what "xxx" is |
| 01:58.44 | initech | Nyle: that's ok, we all back dat ass up to our employers every day |
| 01:58.44 | bob2 | Area-51: depends on what xx is |
| 01:58.48 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:58.51 | Justin | bob2: GET OUT OF MY HEAD! |
| 01:58.51 | Area-51 | specifically, fat and fat32 |
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| 01:59.05 | Area-51 | lol |
| 01:59.16 | bob2 | modprobe vfat |
| 01:59.23 | guestish | heh... |
| 01:59.29 | Justin | you don't need to load vfat, the kernel will do it for you |
| 01:59.39 | guestish | if you're lucky |
| 01:59.43 | Justin | you just have to tell mount to use vfat and not "fat32" or random other names |
| 01:59.46 | Area-51 | i loaded vfat but still have the same errors |
| 02:00.35 | bob2 | show us the exact command you're running |
| 02:01.07 | initech | Area-51: take the extra step to load vfat-as-fuck, it'll work |
| 02:01.31 | bob2 | wow, the usefull help is coming thick and fast tonight |
| 02:01.48 | Area-51 | initech: i dont understand that |
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| 02:03.09 | initech | Area-51: just a joke |
| 02:03.37 | Area-51 | ah, ive been awake too long to understand jokes, lol, i havnt gone to sleep in 36 hours |
| 02:04.42 | Area-51 | "mount -t fat /dev/sda1 /home/jamie/usb" gives me the error of "mount: fs type fat not supported by kernel" even after loading the vfat module... any ideas? (debian testing, kernel 2.6.8 custom) |
| 02:04.55 | Justin | Area-51: 20:59 < Justin> you just have to tell mount to use vfat and not "fat32" or random other names |
| 02:04.58 | Justin | Area-51: go to sleep. |
| 02:05.06 | jan_ | bob2: do you use the default config file for aide ? |
| 02:05.19 | Area-51 | Justin: sorry mate ;| |
| 02:06.14 | initech | Area-51: regular "fat" is called "msdos" afaik |
| 02:06.24 | Area-51 | initech: so noted :) |
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| 02:07.15 | Area-51 | now i just need to figure out where my thumbdrive is in /dev :P |
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| 02:09.02 | Area-51 | "Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi4, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0" i assume that the thumbdrive is /dev/sg0 but its not a valid block device... any ideas on that? |
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| 02:09.47 | moodsoft | hi all, I've installed smbcommon, how do I tell sarge about a printer availble via smb? I can't seem to find where I tell kde about a new printer |
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| 02:10.34 | Area-51 | moodsoft: to install a printer via ms net share, try cups |
| 02:10.43 | initech | Area-51: it will be sd-something, depending on other scsi block devices on the system |
| 02:10.51 | rwa | anyone know if sarge will try to cache contents of a ramdisk or if it is smart enough to know the difference? |
| 02:10.54 | moodsoft | Area-51, thanks |
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| 02:11.18 | Area-51 | initech: i assumed as such, ive hit /dev/sde1 and then decided to try other avanues, but ill continue down the list |
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| 02:11.44 | initech | Area-51: cfdisk will tell you, if dmesg doesn't |
| 02:11.51 | moodsoft | Area-51, can you tell me what command I want to use? I think I have cups installed, but can't seem to find it |
| 02:11.54 | YoMismo | i solved the sound problem :) |
| 02:12.06 | skel_home | if I install a pre-compiled kernel, say kernel-image-2.6.8-9-amd64 and I wanted the relevant sources for that kernel would it be kernel-source-2.6.8 ? |
| 02:12.13 | Area-51 | moodsoft: open a web browser and goto http://localhost:631" |
| 02:12.15 | initech | moodsoft: go to localhost:631 in a browser, and set up the printer |
| 02:12.24 | moodsoft | thanks |
| 02:12.25 | YoMismo | latest discover version has problems with my sound car |
| 02:12.30 | initech | moodsoft: you will use the "smb" device type for it |
| 02:12.35 | Area-51 | initech: ive tried cfdisk also, do no avail, ill give dmesg a go |
| 02:13.09 | moodsoft | ok, I guess I don't have it installed, the connection was refused |
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| 02:13.43 | initech | moodsoft: you need to install "smbclient" to get smbspool, which have the right deice type for cups |
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| 02:13.56 | initech | moodsoft: and the windows box has to let you print as well :) |
| 02:14.14 | Matalo | how should i eneble color highlighting of for example c-code in vim? |
| 02:14.49 | initech | Matalo: edit /etc/vim/vimrc |
| 02:14.54 | Matalo | ok |
| 02:14.56 | moodsoft | smbclient is already installed, but I don't seem to have the web component of cups |
| 02:14.57 | Matalo | thanks |
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| 02:15.12 | jan_ | bob2: hmmz, somone screwed some permissions in /dev/ , is there a way to re-set the permissions from the packages? :p |
| 02:15.19 | initech | moodsoft: then it isn't running or isn't installed |
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| 02:15.47 | glick | excus me how would you partition a 10 gig disk for a webserver runnin apache, php and mysql? |
| 02:15.52 | Area-51 | initech: dmesg doesnt give me much help eithor :: i can see that its being picked up properly but with no bloody clue where it is, lol |
| 02:16.14 | moodsoft | initech, what's the web component called? |
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| 02:16.55 | initech | moodsoft: there isn't any extra web component; the package you need is cupsys |
| 02:16.56 | skel_home | glick: maybe a gig or 2 to /usr/ and maybe 500m for / and the rest for /var |
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| 02:17.25 | initech | moodsoft: are you trying to do this remotely or from localhost? |
| 02:17.36 | Led_Zeppelin | I have a bad screen process, I am trying to do screen -r, but I get this: |
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| 02:17.48 | Led_Zeppelin | There is a screen on: |
| 02:17.48 | Led_Zeppelin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.48 | Led_Zeppelin | There is no screen to be resumed. |
| 02:17.55 | Led_Zeppelin | how can I recover this screen again? |
| 02:18.11 | scarynetworkguy | Led_Zeppelin: detach from it first. |
| 02:18.20 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: screen -dr |
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| 02:18.29 | glick | skel_home, where does apache keep webfiles? |
| 02:18.34 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil: screen -dr just hangs |
| 02:18.35 | fruers | Is there a mirror of the installer iso's at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 02:18.39 | glick | why should var be 7 gigs large? |
| 02:19.04 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: I've had that happen, good luck fixing it |
| 02:19.09 | scarynetworkguy | Led_Zeppelin: screen 0d |
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| 02:19.14 | scarynetworkguy | Led_Zeppelin: screen -d |
| 02:19.27 | moodsoft | is the default username and password for cups root and that password? |
| 02:19.39 | Led_Zeppelin | scarynetworkguy: that just hangs |
| 02:19.40 | initech | glick: the debian apache package puts everything in /var/www and /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 02:20.02 | initech | glick: well the content anyway |
| 02:20.10 | glick | i see |
| 02:20.12 | Led_Zeppelin | ps axu | grep -i screen shows 3 processes! |
| 02:20.20 | Led_Zeppelin | screen, screen -r, screen -x |
| 02:20.22 | initech | moodsoft: root will work, yes |
| 02:20.30 | dorphell | anyone here have a pcHDTV-3000 (or 2000) tv card? |
| 02:20.38 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: you tried screen -D ? |
| 02:20.38 | Led_Zeppelin | looks like pts/4 is giving me the problems |
| 02:20.52 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil: yes, it hags too |
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| 02:21.02 | scarynetworkguy | Led_Zeppelin: tye screen -d 8793.pts-4.ultra2 also try a screen --h and start playing with some of the options it lists for you. |
| 02:21.15 | simonrvn | so find pts4 and detach it |
| 02:21.26 | Led_Zeppelin | screen -r 8793.pts-4.ultra2 |
| 02:21.27 | Led_Zeppelin | There is a screen on: |
| 02:21.27 | Led_Zeppelin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.27 | Led_Zeppelin | There is no screen to be resumed matching 8793.pts-4.ultra2. |
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| 02:21.34 | Led_Zeppelin | sorry |
| 02:21.37 | recall | For anyone using an APC UPS, which software do you recommend? |
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| 02:21.43 | simonrvn | stop pasting here, you should know that by now |
| 02:21.57 | Led_Zeppelin | simonrvn: only 4 lines. |
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| 02:22.07 | simonrvn | that got you booted |
| 02:22.13 | glick | does cd recording work in 2.6.8? |
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| 02:22.21 | ivan | Led_Zeppelin, screen -rd |
| 02:22.22 | glick | i heard from someone that this kernel breaks cd recording |
| 02:22.27 | moodsoft | for the location of the printer, does it want to know where its at on the network? |
| 02:22.29 | jdj | does anyone have experience in installing redhat ws on a 64amd |
| 02:22.37 | Led_Zeppelin | ivan: nope, still hangs |
| 02:22.41 | simonrvn | jdj: in #redhat they do |
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| 02:22.44 | zionicman | hey! |
| 02:22.49 | zionicman | can someone please help me?! |
| 02:22.53 | ivan | Led_Zeppelin, then you can't recover it |
| 02:22.54 | scarynetworkguy | recall: mutt, screen, irssi, vim, nmap, tcpdump. Need some more? |
| 02:23.02 | Led_Zeppelin | ivan: no no no no no no! |
| 02:23.03 | simonrvn | zionicman: can you pease as a question? |
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| 02:23.08 | simonrvn | pl* |
| 02:23.11 | Area-51 | zionicman: no one can hlep yyou unless you ask a question |
| 02:23.13 | simonrvn | ask* |
| 02:23.16 | zionicman | simonrvn: can you please buy me a pizza?! i'm hungry! |
| 02:23.17 | simonrvn | fuck typing |
| 02:23.18 | dorphell | anyone here have a pcHDTV-3000 (or 2000) tv card? |
| 02:23.26 | Led_Zeppelin | my processes are still running though... |
| 02:23.27 | Led_Zeppelin | hmm |
| 02:23.34 | zionicman | will someone please buy me a pizza?! |
| 02:23.43 | zionicman | i haven't eaten all day and i'm very hungry! |
| 02:23.44 | simonrvn | zionicman: no |
| 02:23.49 | zionicman | why not?! |
| 02:23.52 | zionicman | it's cheap! |
| 02:23.56 | zionicman | and it's in canadian dollars! |
| 02:23.57 | bbrazil | Led_Zeppelin: I must agree with ivan, I've never recovered a screen in this state (although if you manage it I'll be quite interested) |
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| 02:24.05 | recall | scarynetworkguy, what? |
| 02:24.11 | simonrvn | zionicman: do you have a question, or are you here to troll? |
| 02:24.21 | zionicman | i'm here to get someone to buy me a pizza, simonrvn! |
| 02:24.24 | zionicman | will you be that person?! |
| 02:24.28 | Led_Zeppelin | bbrazil: not a good sign, i got some python runing. |
| 02:24.28 | simonrvn | zionicman: go away then |
| 02:24.30 | recall | scarynetworkguy, I asked about APC universal power supply software. |
| 02:24.32 | Led_Zeppelin | very strange. |
| 02:24.43 | recall | err, uninterruptable even... |
| 02:24.44 | scarynetworkguy | recall: No you didn't read what you wrote. :) |
| 02:24.48 | zionicman | I haven't gotten anyone to buy me a pizza yet, simonrvn! |
| 02:24.56 | zionicman | They can do so at http://www.pizzapizza.com/! |
| 02:25.07 | simonrvn | zionicman: you are now getting /ignored. bu-bye |
| 02:25.16 | zionicman | ?! |
| 02:25.24 | zionicman | How is that going to help me get a pizza?! |
| 02:25.29 | recall | Oh, sorry for misjudging the inference factor |
| 02:25.35 | zionicman | recall! |
| 02:25.40 | zionicman | can you please buy me a pizza?! |
| 02:25.42 | scarynetworkguy | recall: </humour> |
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| 02:25.56 | recall | I just ate a pizza |
| 02:26.00 | zionicman | bombo! |
| 02:26.03 | zionicman | bombo!!! |
| 02:26.05 | zionicman | can you help me?! |
| 02:26.13 | Area-51 | zionicman: call the pizza place and order one, thats how you do it |
| 02:26.14 | scarynetworkguy | !ops |
| 02:26.14 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 02:26.15 | wpostma | I am able to launch a jar file by typing "java -jar foo.jar" but if I put it into a shell script with #!/bin/sh on the top, and the next line the same as the command I can type in bash, I get an error, unable to access jar file. What is going on? |
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| 02:26.24 | zionicman | Area-51: i can't afford it! |
| 02:26.30 | recall | Maybe you can hang around Papa John's right before they close, and beg? |
| 02:26.44 | zionicman | We don't have Papa John's in Canada! |
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| 02:26.48 | simonrvn | recall: they don't have those in montreal |
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| 02:27.07 | recall | Oh, well that's a shame. |
| 02:27.08 | fraxtal | whaaats up |
| 02:27.17 | zionicman | I'm not in Montreal! |
| 02:27.20 | zionicman | I'm in Toronto! |
| 02:27.20 | moodsoft | ok, I got the test page to print via the web interface. How do I tell Firefox to be able to print to it? KDE still doesn't see it |
| 02:27.22 | zionicman | FRAXTAL! |
| 02:27.27 | zionicman | can you help me?! |
| 02:27.30 | zionicman | Please?! |
| 02:27.51 | simonrvn | recall: more typically they're little self-owned places with usually an arabic or greek owner |
| 02:28.00 | simonrvn | ...and make great pizza |
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| 02:28.17 | fraxtal | zionicman; depends. ask. |
| 02:28.26 | zionicman | fraxtal: will you buy me a pizza?! |
| 02:28.28 | zionicman | please?! |
| 02:28.32 | zionicman | i'm hungry! |
| 02:28.40 | Area-51 | zionicman: sod off and eat yourself |
| 02:28.42 | fraxtal | no |
| 02:28.52 | recall | simonrvn, which actually probably put Papa John's to shame =) |
| 02:29.01 | fraxtal | although I bought a pizza for someone on irc once |
| 02:29.01 | simonrvn | probably =) |
| 02:29.13 | zionicman | why not, fraxtal?! |
| 02:29.15 | zionicman | i'm hungry! |
| 02:29.28 | fraxtal | then eat a dick |
| 02:29.28 | recall | Can you order a pizza over the internet? |
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| 02:29.43 | recall | apt-get install pizza? |
| 02:29.43 | alindeman | Probably |
| 02:29.52 | fraxtal | recall; No but you can call up the nearest pizza * to someone you know |
| 02:29.53 | Area-51 | recall: that would kick ass :) |
| 02:29.56 | recall | In the non-free sources, of course |
| 02:30.18 | Area-51 | lol |
| 02:30.20 | Justin | campusfood.com works good if you are at a school heh |
| 02:30.28 | Area-51 | lol |
| 02:30.42 | simonrvn | look like Led_Zeppelin found his stray screen session |
| 02:31.05 | Justin | simonrvn: I always have month long lost screen sessions :-) |
| 02:31.12 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 02:31.12 | Justin | I deleted one the other day running top idle for 2 months |
| 02:31.38 | simonrvn | heh. i always make sure to keep track of them, i've lost too many before.. |
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| 02:32.05 | simonrvn | yummy turkey left-overs and stuff |
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| 02:32.11 | Justin | I use screen -x wherever possible to group them all into one session, but I have too many computers and user accounts |
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| 02:32.16 | simonrvn | (we had our late) |
| 02:32.20 | simonrvn | ours* |
| 02:32.35 | initech | Justin: then maybe you should look into nis or ldap :) |
| 02:32.49 | fraxtal | Question: how would I go about getting the 2.6 kernel if im on woody? |
| 02:32.49 | simonrvn | ldap, not nis, pleeeease |
| 02:32.55 | Justin | initech: i mean, I have too many computers and user accounts to run once screen -x session |
| 02:33.02 | simonrvn | fraxtal: backport |
| 02:33.08 | Area-51 | fraxtal: same was as on testing? |
| 02:33.09 | initech | Justin: not the same thing ... |
| 02:33.13 | Area-51 | hmm |
| 02:33.21 | simonrvn | Area-51: not quite no |
| 02:33.22 | Area-51 | same way* |
| 02:33.24 | Area-51 | i see |
| 02:33.31 | fraxtal | Yea I want to grab some packages from testing |
| 02:33.31 | Justin | initech: nis or ldap won't help me run one screen -x session across 4 computers |
| 02:33.40 | rdancer | how do i alter an empty variable in a makefile? FOO = ${FOO}-bar gives an error, FOO +=-bar seems to add an extra space before `-' |
| 02:33.41 | wpostma | It is my humble opinion that every open source tape-backup program sucks. I just tried Arkeia and it is like a breath of fresh air. Of course it's closed source and commercial. Sigh. Fresh air gone. :-( |
| 02:33.44 | simonrvn | need backport of module-init-tools |
| 02:33.45 | Area-51 | one could always go to kernels.org and download the soruce ;> |
| 02:34.13 | simonrvn | and if you build it yourself, you need more recent binutils |
| 02:34.23 | initech | wpostma: yes they are all not so good, but amanda's probably the best one |
| 02:34.31 | Area-51 | true |
| 02:34.36 | fraxtal | I thought about getting the source from kernel.org but I was hoping that apt would give me the dependencies that I need |
| 02:35.32 | neonmagic | i'd 2nd that |
| 02:35.49 | initech | Justin: other than giving you an account on all four, no. it would be to cut down on account management, that's all |
| 02:35.57 | dorphell | anyone here have a pcHDTV-3000 (or 2000) tv card? |
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| 02:35.58 | wpostma | yeah, amanda is okay, except there is no decent end-user-GUI for retrieving files from tape. (This is for "security reasons". I laughed so hard when I read that.) |
| 02:35.59 | neonmagic | best way to learn about kernel compiling if you ask me |
| 02:36.39 | wpostma | Maybe when I get Copious Free Time I will write on in Python/QT. |
| 02:37.24 | fraxtal | bah I need a keygen for my stupid LINUX DRIVER |
| 02:37.29 | initech | wpostma: the better backup programs cost the big bucks |
| 02:37.58 | wpostma | Yeah. It seems that if they can write a whole Office package and make it open source that surely a group of talented Haxors could get together and write a half-decent GUI tape backup program. :-) |
| 02:38.06 | wpostma | I intend to try some day. |
| 02:38.19 | initech | wpostma: backups are too boring I think ;) |
| 02:38.33 | wpostma | Losing data is *WAY* too much excitement though. :-) |
| 02:38.36 | neonmagic | keygen fraxtal? |
| 02:38.59 | fraxtal | neonmagic; Im not paying Linuxant $20 to use their driver |
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| 02:39.45 | moodsoft | how do I tell firefox to use a CUPS printer? |
| 02:39.47 | scarynetworkguy | !tell tillo about away |
| 02:40.40 | scarynetworkguy | !tell fraxtal about away |
| 02:40.49 | neonmagic | ahhh fraxtal |
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| 02:41.39 | neonmagic | well I'm having fun with LG electronics at the moment, since the dvd burner i've got only allows you to upgrade the firmware from winblows |
| 02:41.54 | neonmagic | i don't use winblows, don't intend to use it, and i'm sick and tired of being discriminated against |
| 02:42.38 | neonmagic | linux users really need to start banding together and making complaints with massive amounts of people behind the complaints to the major hardware manufacturers |
| 02:42.43 | wpostma | Anyone know of a manufacturer of a linux-friendly hot-pluggable array of SATA drives useable for on-the-fly disk-to-disk backup? |
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| 02:43.14 | Serialkiller | whast the current status of sarge? |
| 02:43.23 | wpostma | Sarge is dead. :-) |
| 02:43.23 | neonmagic | nearly released ;) |
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| 02:43.39 | Nyle | neonmagic, can't wait |
| 02:43.51 | Serialkiller | does anyone have a current iso link to the frozen package? |
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| 02:44.00 | neonmagic | check the debian website |
| 02:44.02 | neonmagic | it has the links up there |
| 02:44.15 | fraxtal | neonmagic; Questions is, will the Hurd take over Linux though? |
| 02:44.17 | scarynetworkguy | !tell Serialkiller about d-i |
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| 02:44.29 | MikeH | hi guys, i want to download some iso's for sid, obviously i dont want all 12 disks, what disks are likely to contain things like X, gnome etc.? would i get away with getting 1, 2 and 3? |
| 02:44.31 | neonmagic | nah, gnu hurd is one mans dream, and all but dead |
| 02:44.56 | neonmagic | although RMS is one great guy |
| 02:45.06 | neonmagic | fantastic public speaker, loves his ideals, very passionate |
| 02:45.17 | recall | Especially when the sound module is loaded and has very little reason to not work. =( heh |
| 02:45.20 | neonmagic | but very pushy :( |
| 02:45.47 | fraxtal | heh I forgot to add soundcore to my kernel this afternoon |
| 02:45.51 | fraxtal | gotta recompile in a bit |
| 02:45.53 | neonmagic | hehehe |
| 02:46.45 | fraxtal | but my nvidia driver works now and my modem works somewhat |
| 02:46.48 | simonrvn | MikeH: why would you want sid isos in the first place? by the time you finished downloading #2, you'd have to start over |
| 02:47.06 | simonrvn | MikeH: get sarge 1 iso, and be happy |
| 02:47.15 | neonmagic | better to grab sarge and apt-get the rest that you need |
| 02:47.20 | MikeH | simonrvn: to do an install in locations without a net connection..... |
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| 02:47.39 | simonrvn | MikeH: then get all the sarge ones |
| 02:47.45 | rich_ | Hello |
| 02:47.49 | MikeH | i dont want sarge :/ |
| 02:47.59 | neonmagic | I wonder when Sarge will finally be released |
| 02:48.02 | recall | Sarge is like back to the future! |
| 02:48.14 | neonmagic | what, bad acting? |
| 02:48.29 | recall | Hey! |
| 02:48.49 | neonmagic | hehehe |
| 02:48.56 | simonrvn | MikeH: what you want is impractical |
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| 02:49.02 | dorphell | anyone here have a pcHDTV-3000 (or 2000) tv card? |
| 02:49.03 | MikeH | how so? |
| 02:49.10 | simonrvn | MikeH: be sensible.. save yourself some grief |
| 02:49.33 | MikeH | I really don't want sarge on this machine... |
| 02:50.04 | simonrvn | whatever. don't say i didn't warn you. sid is updated EVERY FREAKING DAY. |
| 02:50.21 | neonmagic | let him have hassles simonrvn |
| 02:50.29 | neonmagic | then we can say "we told you so" |
| 02:50.29 | MikeH | yes, i know that. But I would like what is currently most up to date..... |
| 02:50.38 | neonmagic | grab sarge and use apt-get MikeH |
| 02:50.40 | moodsoft | how do I tell firefox to use a CUPS printer? |
| 02:50.53 | neonmagic | I don't think you can moodsoft |
| 02:50.57 | neonmagic | it uses xprint |
| 02:51.00 | MikeH | neonmagic: if i had a net connection on the machine i want to install it on i would just grab the netinst iso |
| 02:51.06 | simonrvn | moodsoft: "lpr". apt-get install cupsys-bsd |
| 02:51.39 | fraxtal | do you pronounce Debian with a short e or long e? |
| 02:51.45 | neonmagic | short |
| 02:51.50 | neonmagic | deb as in debbie |
| 02:51.52 | MikeH | deb as in debbie :P |
| 02:51.53 | MikeH | lol |
| 02:51.56 | simonrvn | short. it's a woman's name, shortened |
| 02:51.57 | neonmagic | hahah |
| 02:51.58 | MikeH | great minds? :P |
| 02:52.12 | neonmagic | i wonder if that's why they called it a .deb package |
| 02:52.28 | recall | I like saying it deb - eeee - un! |
| 02:52.30 | rich_ | Its pronounced just like the name debbie and the nale ian, sort of like daaabion |
| 02:52.41 | neonmagic | Is Ian Murdoch still together with her I wonder |
| 02:52.44 | rich_ | rymes with the french bottled water |
| 02:52.51 | simonrvn | rich_: what? |
| 02:52.59 | neonmagic | evian |
| 02:53.01 | neonmagic | debian |
| 02:53.06 | MikeH | anyway, i know what i want to do, i was just hopeing someone could answer my question rather than telling me what i should be doing |
| 02:53.17 | recall | Who'd buy Debian water! |
| 02:53.22 | simonrvn | we pronounce "evian" like the french do... |
| 02:53.28 | neonmagic | MikeH: ftp into ftp.debian.org and have a look around |
| 02:53.30 | MikeH | i dont |
| 02:53.39 | fraxtal | I want that debian logo tatooed on me |
| 02:53.48 | MikeH | sad. :/ |
| 02:53.49 | MikeH | anyway |
| 02:53.50 | MikeH | bb |
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| 02:53.57 | rich_ | haha Just kidding, I wouldnt try pronouncing it, it's in english |
| 02:54.05 | fraxtal | bah thats not sad it looks cool |
| 02:54.08 | recall | Maybe we should have told him to use Ubuntu |
| 02:54.11 | recall | =) |
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| 02:54.16 | neonmagic | lol recall |
| 02:54.26 | neonmagic | that'd be cruelty wouldn't it |
| 02:54.52 | fraxtal | Doesn't helix hang out in here? |
| 02:55.14 | mrwill | fraxtal: i've seen him here before |
| 02:55.17 | mrwill | !seen helix |
| 02:55.17 | dpkg | helix is currently on #debian #debian-women #debian-ops. Has said a total of 51148 messages. Is idling for 59m 22s |
| 02:55.32 | simonrvn | s/him/her/ |
| 02:55.36 | nvz | mrwill: ? |
| 02:55.45 | mrwill | simonrvn: yeah, oops, didn't realize. |
| 02:55.50 | fraxtal | heh |
| 02:55.53 | nvz | heh |
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| 02:56.30 | guestish | yeah... |
| 02:56.39 | Bickie | anyone know a good way to diagnose where invisible load is coming from? |
| 02:56.45 | Bickie | I thought it was IDE, but now I'm not so sure |
| 02:56.46 | fraxtal | I hate dialup |
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| 02:57.24 | mrwill | Bickie: if it's invisible, how do you know about it? |
| 02:57.44 | Bickie | mrwill: I have xray vision! :) |
| 02:57.44 | guestish | Bickie: have you tried top |
| 02:57.54 | mwolff | :( |
| 02:57.57 | Bickie | nah, ie: no cpu usage, but load is still 1.10+ |
| 02:57.58 | mwolff | I don't have xray vision |
| 02:57.59 | mwolff | :( |
| 02:58.05 | guestish | ... |
| 02:58.08 | Bickie | so it's something kernel level |
| 02:58.18 | guestish | whats cpu load monitor anyways? |
| 02:58.18 | Bickie | ie: IDE, IP packet filtering/etc |
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| 02:58.44 | fraxtal | 1.1 |
| 02:58.46 | mrwill | Bickie: load averages are the number of processes running during certain time periods, just fyi, and I may be wrong about that. |
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| 02:59.27 | Bickie | well, I guess what I mean is - my load numbers are high, even when the box apparantly is doing nothing |
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| 02:59.32 | Bickie | according to cpu usage, etc, etc |
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| 02:59.40 | mrwill | Bickie: well, do you have lots of processes running? |
| 02:59.49 | Justin | Bickie: processes stuck in certain states get counted as running sometimes |
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| 03:00.02 | Bickie | aye, got a few processes, but nothing insane |
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| 03:00.36 | Bickie | just trying to diagnose where the load is coming from |
| 03:00.43 | guestish | http://support.bb4.com/archive/199910/msg00714.html |
| 03:00.44 | Bickie | I thought it was cos it was swapping stuff in/out of memory |
| 03:01.01 | mrwill | Bickie: no, really that number comes from running processes, nothing else. |
| 03:01.14 | guestish | Bickie: check the thread |
| 03:01.45 | fraxtal | waha |
| 03:01.49 | Bickie | ya, read that |
| 03:01.49 | fraxtal | im drunkx0r |
| 03:01.58 | guestish | did you check the disk i/o? |
| 03:02.09 | Bickie | yeah, as well as I could |
| 03:02.18 | Bickie | 2.4.x has no iowait capabilities |
| 03:02.27 | Bickie | unlike 2.5+ and solaris |
| 03:02.30 | guestish | oh |
| 03:02.40 | Bickie | so it's a bit difficult to see if it's disk IO causing it |
| 03:03.01 | Defcon847 | hi all, anyone knows how can i umount/eject a cd ? i tried eject umount, umount -f hdparm -L 0 but every program which has to do with the cdrom freezes and nor killall -9 terminates it...i'am using kernel 2.6.9 |
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| 03:03.10 | Bickie | however, if I do a de-prioritized hdparm -t on the disk that (should) be being slow, it still gets about 20MB/s |
| 03:03.19 | Bickie | which means there's idle IO bwidth (I would think) |
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| 03:03.47 | arango | Can someone recomend a TV card that works well in Linux ? |
| 03:03.56 | Bickie | arango: any bt8x8 based card |
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| 03:04.41 | screach | Hi I want to install sarge .... Ijust got a laptop with windoze xp and want to duel boot can I make a linux partition and install the grub of does it have to be at the front of the drive |
| 03:04.44 | arango | Bickie: so I should definetly go for bt8x8 if I want reliability ? |
| 03:04.54 | guestish | arango: http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000_right_down.html or a bt848 based card for standard defintion |
| 03:05.07 | guestish | bt848 is the most widely supported... |
| 03:05.09 | guestish | and cheap :) |
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| 03:05.13 | Bickie | in terms of compatibility, the bt8x8 ones probably have the most work done on them |
| 03:05.20 | Bickie | and most widely used |
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| 03:05.32 | Bickie | they vary in quality though, remember bt8x8 is a chip only |
| 03:05.38 | fraxtal | screach; Linux does not have to be at the front of the drive |
| 03:05.38 | guestish | yeah |
| 03:05.42 | Bickie | you still have diff manufacts, different tuner chips, etc, etc |
| 03:05.46 | cdm0 | question: whats the command(s) i need to run to restart my eth0? |
| 03:06.06 | Bickie | cdm0: are you doing it remotely via network or is it on your local machine? |
| 03:06.12 | rdancer | cdm0: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 03:06.21 | guestish | this one is probably the most widely supported: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr350.html |
| 03:06.22 | cdm0 | local machine |
| 03:06.33 | arango | guestish: thanks |
| 03:06.35 | guestish | arango: np |
| 03:06.37 | Bickie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:06.56 | fraxtal | screach; You will have to resize your windows partition to make room for 2 new linux partitions though |
| 03:06.58 | guestish | i hope the new one still uses bt848 |
| 03:07.22 | daxxar | bah. |
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| 03:07.44 | daxxar | my machine gets a kernel panic when i try to access my RAID-5 array. (after some IO to the drive) |
| 03:07.49 | daxxar | and it thinks it's unpartitioned. |
| 03:07.59 | Bickie | guestish: i didn't htink they used bt chips? haven't they got some more exotic hardware mpeg2 chip on em? |
| 03:08.01 | fraxtal | screach; Have you ever done a dual boot before? |
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| 03:08.07 | arango | guestish: can that hdtv card be used on a standard tv set ? |
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| 03:08.26 | guestish | arango: sure, but you wont get hd tv... |
| 03:08.29 | cdm0 | yes, that is the command, well for some reason, when i installed my dist of userlinux, networking/internet was working fine, and i didnt change anything, now it doesnt work and that dhcpdiscover thing cant find anything? any idea how to fix that |
| 03:08.33 | debboy | hi guys, before i download 12+ CD images for debian-testing, is it the best thing to get for an install pack for a little dialup-laptop? |
| 03:08.34 | mrwoody | I updated gimp-print to the 5.0.0 beta 2 version (not a .deb package). Gimp works fine, but how to make cups work now (it doesn't see the new libraries) ? |
| 03:08.39 | guestish | Bickie: mine uses bt848, but its older |
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| 03:08.46 | Bickie | aah, ok |
| 03:09.02 | guestish | Bickie: but like i said, its old |
| 03:09.34 | Bickie | debboy: just get 1 cd and install the rest of what you need over a network, unless you don't have net/network access |
| 03:09.47 | simonrvn | debboy: cd1, fetch the rest via apt-get and friends |
| 03:09.49 | debboy | i do have net access, but it might be limited and slow. |
| 03:10.07 | fraxtal | debboy; Ever thought about using a vendor? |
| 03:10.09 | debboy | -testing is ok? right? i want firefox :) |
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| 03:10.13 | guestish | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_pci_boards.html |
| 03:10.15 | debboy | vendor... hmm |
| 03:10.19 | arango | guestish: for hdtv, does it only support over-the-air signal or does it also suport set-top devices ? |
| 03:10.23 | guestish | Bickie: i guess the new ones use 878 and 881 |
| 03:10.34 | guestish | arango: i dont know, you would have to mail the manufacturers and ask |
| 03:10.37 | Bickie | guestish: hmmm... what's an 881? |
| 03:10.45 | cdm0 | bickie: would you know how to get my dhcpdiscover to work? |
| 03:10.48 | guestish | Bickie: uh, another bt chip? :) |
| 03:11.02 | Bickie | guestish: hehehe |
| 03:11.08 | fraxtal | debboy; I mean a feel you on the dialip. If you dont have friends with broadband you should just buy the cds from a vendor because it would take you months to install over ftp |
| 03:11.16 | Bickie | cdm0: what does /var/log/syslog have to say? |
| 03:11.31 | guestish | arango: looks like it takes any NTSC or ATSC hd signal and processes it, but you need a software mpeg2 decoder |
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| 03:11.39 | guestish | arango: do you have hdtv? |
| 03:12.35 | guestish | Bickie: this is mine (though older) http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_go.html |
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| 03:12.47 | rdancer | debboy: everything >=28.8kbps is reasonably fast for a net install |
| 03:13.00 | rdancer | debboy: unless you have to pay per minute, of course |
| 03:13.01 | debboy | fraxtal, vendors only have stable or old, old testing |
| 03:13.17 | debboy | i have broadband now, to get cds, or i have dialup later, to install. |
| 03:13.20 | cdm0 | bickie: when it gets to the dhcpdiscover part, i get "unknown hardware address type 24" errors |
| 03:13.38 | cdm0 | and "no dhcpoffers received" |
| 03:13.44 | fraxtal | debboy; Get the cds then |
| 03:13.53 | Bickie | and you have a working dhcp server on the network? :) |
| 03:13.55 | rdancer | debboy: wouldn't a DVD be an option then? |
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| 03:14.02 | rdancer | s/a DVD/DVDs/ |
| 03:14.10 | mrwill | debboy: well, in that case, get the first few cds off the internet now, but you probably won't need all 12, try just the first three or so. |
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| 03:14.21 | debboy | rdancer, maybe, i dont think the laptop has DVD tho |
| 03:14.32 | rdancer | debboy: will you pay per minute? |
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| 03:15.17 | debboy | for dialup? no. so you can just get 3 and that will cover most things? |
| 03:15.19 | dafen | mirror.direct.ca is out of service.... |
| 03:15.31 | dafen | is there any other deb package servers in canda? |
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| 03:16.00 | rich_ | sorry |
| 03:16.24 | debboy | mrwill, are they ordered in terms of popularity ? |
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| 03:17.06 | mrwill | debboy: well, the cds of the releases are, but I'm not sure about testing, but it is a pretty safe guess that the packages are ordered by popularity... |
| 03:17.26 | guestish | huh, cool, the wintv app uses parts of dscaler... |
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| 03:17.47 | debboy | thats pretty cool |
| 03:18.00 | rdancer | debboy: 64kbps are exactly 650MB per day, which is something like 1.2GB worth installed applications, which is more than you will ever have installed at once, at any given time. so if you don't mind waiting few hours for the install to complete, just go with the 1st CD. You can download more just in case you need something quickly, though. |
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| 03:18.16 | gce | I've installed kernel 2.6.9 to a dual processor box when doing shutdown -r now it blanks the screen and hangs. Anyone know of a solution? |
| 03:18.42 | debboy | where can i get a list of whats on each CD ? |
| 03:19.02 | rdancer | debboy: download them and have a look |
| 03:19.04 | rdancer | ;) |
| 03:19.34 | glick | hey how do you get an ulra 5 to boot from cdrom? |
| 03:19.48 | Justin | glick: the same way you get any sun to boot from cdrom? |
| 03:19.57 | gce | glick: from obp prompt try: boot cdrom |
| 03:20.03 | glick | Justin, and how is that im not familier with suns |
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| 03:20.17 | mrwoody | how to set a printer in gnome? |
| 03:20.18 | debboy | rdancer, :p heh |
| 03:20.24 | sussudio | !irritate glick |
| 03:20.25 | dpkg | glick: hi every1 who uses cable ???/ |
| 03:20.50 | Justin | !tell glick about ig |
| 03:20.57 | Justin | !tell glick about google |
| 03:21.32 | arango | guestish: I don't have HDTV but might get one in the near future. What do you mean by an mpeg-2 decoder ? another piece of hardware ? |
| 03:21.45 | Justin | glick: not being familiar with something is no excuse for not reading widely available documentation |
| 03:21.57 | guestish | arango: er, its software. xine and mplayer do decoding, but most tv apps dont |
| 03:22.20 | glick | Justin, i thought someone here might know the answer to my simple question, excuuuseeeee-fscking-me |
| 03:22.24 | guestish | arango: which is fine, you would just use their modified version of xine |
| 03:22.54 | TheStar | glick: Trouble was that I presume that your question was *too* simple. |
| 03:23.05 | Justin | glick: many people knowing an answer to a simple question is no excuse for not searching yourself and discovering the answer on your own |
| 03:23.06 | glick | the answers to all the questions people ask in here is available online somewhere |
| 03:23.17 | TheStar | glick: There wasn't enough background or other information. |
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| 03:23.23 | arango | guestish: how about myth tv ? |
| 03:23.25 | nvz | glick: what am I thinking right now? |
| 03:23.31 | TheStar | glick: And there are pleanty of questions in this channel that rely on experience. |
| 03:23.31 | guestish | arango: says you can at the webpage |
| 03:23.36 | sussudio | nvz: in soviet russia, ultra boots you? |
| 03:23.47 | nvz | sussudio: not sure, ask again. |
| 03:24.00 | guestish | arango: Shipped with the open source multimedia player, Xine, the card provides a ATSC stream to the Xine mpeg2 decoder for playback and can be used with MythTV. |
| 03:24.10 | nvz | in soviet russia, the floor rolls on you? |
| 03:24.14 | sussudio | mithTV? |
| 03:24.24 | guestish | sussudio: mythtv |
| 03:24.27 | TheStar | glick: Advice, particularly. |
| 03:24.30 | sussudio | !mith guestish |
| 03:24.38 | guestish | sussudio: ... |
| 03:25.03 | TheStar | glick: Although some questions such as vi/emacs... People quickly learn to leave that well alone :) |
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| 03:25.13 | guestish | !learn sussudio |
| 03:25.26 | sussudio | !fist guestish |
| 03:25.30 | guestish | !smack sushi |
| 03:25.32 | guestish | oops |
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| 03:25.37 | guestish | !smite sussudio |
| 03:25.43 | guestish | tab complete... |