| 00:00.03 | thomas_adam | !tell Klipper about alsa |
| 00:00.07 | sussudio | HanselP: no warez for you here. |
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| 00:00.25 | sussudio | !list |
| 00:00.25 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
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| 00:01.15 | thomas_adam | sussudio: It would be helpful if debhelper autokicked people that typed that (with an optional whitelist, of course) |
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| 00:01.29 | sussudio | CTCP VERSION reply from HanselP: mIRC v6.14 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 00:02.00 | nailbiter | hooya: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html |
| 00:02.02 | Pepsi_MD | sususdio, what does the IRC-Client version have to do with warez?? |
| 00:02.02 | sussudio | thomas_adam: i think he's a xdcc catcher bot. |
| 00:02.09 | thaly | sussudio, so? i was using mirc too while i was trying to fix my debian.... |
| 00:02.13 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Ah. |
| 00:02.30 | sussudio | thomas_adam: see how he's in the two biggest channels on this network. |
| 00:02.43 | sussudio | although it's not like there's any xdcc bots in here, so i don't see the point. |
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| 00:02.51 | nailbiter | hooya: the recipe on that page seems to produce bootable images for me .. |
| 00:02.52 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Interesting. How does the bot work, exactly |
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| 00:03.05 | sussudio | thomas_adam: it probably waits for ctcp xdcc's or something |
| 00:03.26 | Pepsi_MD | i would say a xdcc bot would have a bnc ? |
| 00:03.40 | hooya | thanks nailbiter. i have everything ready. i hacked together everything from the woody install CD. grub is grubbing me out. i hope what i'm trying to do works.. |
| 00:04.02 | nailbiter | hooya: ok, good luck. :) |
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| 00:04.42 | hooya | nailbiter, yeah, i already saw that. but thanks tho. i think the problem is with the grub in sarge. compiling grub right now to verify it.. |
| 00:04.44 | sussudio | see? |
| 00:04.55 | thaly | sussudio, :-)) |
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| 00:08.13 | hooya | nailbiter, do i need the iso9660_stage1_5? when is it used? |
| 00:08.21 | Klebel | whats the command to see what version of glibc i have> |
| 00:08.23 | ZenithDK_ | if I need to add some aliases to some sort of module-thing (modules.conf/modutils/whatever would be the right place) in order to get my sound working, where would it be? does /etc/modprobe.d/aliases sound like a bad idea, when followed by an update-modules? |
| 00:08.45 | thomas_adam | mearls: use 'modconf'. |
| 00:08.52 | Nurbs | hooya: just leave them in there :) you'd need it when booting a kernel from ISO 9660 |
| 00:08.54 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: use modconf |
| 00:08.59 | thaly | hooya, obviosly when you use gtub to boot from a cd |
| 00:09.12 | thaly | s/gtub/grub/ |
| 00:09.17 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: how do I add new aliases through that? |
| 00:09.21 | nailbiter | hooya: i don't think it's needed at all if you're booting from disc .. |
| 00:09.21 | helix | thomas_adam: xhelix |
| 00:09.26 | thomas_adam | helix: :) |
| 00:09.38 | nailbiter | hooya: booting from the stage2_eltorito seems to make the contents of the disc available via the (cd) device .. |
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| 00:09.47 | thomas_adam | helix: I'm sorry it has been delayed. My motherbaord explode a few days ago and I have only just got it replaced. |
| 00:09.50 | hooya | thaly, there is also a stage2_eltorito which is used when creating a bootable ISO. |
| 00:09.56 | helix | thomas_adam: oh, I'm not rushing you |
| 00:10.02 | helix | thomas_adam: I still have my bootleg version :) |
| 00:10.09 | Erreur404 | simple question... Is it possible to find some scripts or How-to's to make a "liveCD" in Debian? |
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| 00:10.12 | helix | thomas_adam: ...but I'm sorry to hear about your motherboard. |
| 00:10.13 | hooya | nailbiter, did you need any other stages? apart from the eltorito? |
| 00:10.17 | helix | broken hardware sucks |
| 00:10.18 | nailbiter | hooya: nope. :) |
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| 00:10.23 | rp_ | Hi all! Sorry for asking, but how can I define options for kernel modules in Debian? |
| 00:10.37 | ZenithDK_ | I think I previously just modified /etc/modprobe.d/aliases with my stuff, and ran update-modules, but I want to hear of the correct way to do it |
| 00:10.38 | sussudio | !wayttd rp_ |
| 00:10.38 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, rp_? |
| 00:10.55 | thomas_adam | helix: I have xhelix.png and xhelix.xpm. Yeah, well, usually my philosophy has been if I see white smoke I can fix it, and black I can't. However, I could do neither as the CPU has melted into the socket, it got that hot. The thing just turned off, and died. |
| 00:10.55 | rp_ | modprobe ipw2100 if_name=wlan0 |
| 00:11.03 | Aeudian | when i type "startx" i'm getting an error saying "No Screens Found" |
| 00:11.10 | helix | thomas_adam: ugh :/ |
| 00:11.15 | helix | thomas_adam: my power supply blew up once. |
| 00:11.17 | thomas_adam | !noscreensfound |
| 00:11.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, noscreensfound is dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, read /var/log/XFree86.* and see what's wrong. No, really. READ it. I mean it. Really read it. See 'supported by'. |
| 00:11.20 | rp_ | and I want to "hardcode" the option so that I don't have to type it always... |
| 00:11.23 | thomas_adam | helix: Ouchies. |
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| 00:11.25 | nailbiter | Erreur404: i guess you could start by customizing knoppix; several HOWTOs already exist for that. :) |
| 00:11.30 | thaly | rp_: put the modulename in /etc/modules and its options next to it |
| 00:11.36 | helix | justin: checking.. |
| 00:11.46 | hambone | apt tell hambone about potato->woody |
| 00:11.48 | rp_ | thaly: in modules? or modules.conf? |
| 00:11.55 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: what do you want me to do in modconf? |
| 00:11.56 | thaly | rp_ modules |
| 00:12.02 | hambone | exit |
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| 00:12.08 | Aeudian | thanks thomas_adam |
| 00:12.15 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: Bathe? |
| 00:12.28 | helix | justin: I think I'm trying to wrong URL |
| 00:12.30 | rp_ | thaly: but the module will be loaded at boot type, will it not? |
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| 00:12.49 | thaly | rp_ yes |
| 00:12.54 | justin | helix: my computer isn't on |
| 00:12.56 | helix | oh |
| 00:13.04 | helix | justin: well, that's usually why you poke me |
| 00:13.08 | helix | my mistake :) |
| 00:13.12 | justin | hehe |
| 00:13.13 | rp_ | thaly: and if I want to post-install ifup wlan0? |
| 00:13.16 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: if you want to help me (even if its directing me to #debian-kde) fair enough, but being an ass when giving half-way help is lame |
| 00:13.34 | helix | ZenithDK_: press 'q' on him |
| 00:13.34 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: It will write all the information for your modules an update as applicable. |
| 00:13.41 | raffi | has anyone experienced problems using the dri trunk xfree pages from http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ under sarge, too? (XF86 receives signal 11) |
| 00:13.42 | Erreur404 | nailbiter: that's im trying, but it would be more easy for me to built from a simple Debian installation than try to uninstall many packages in Knoppix....you know...i want to fit a liveCD in a 150Mb CD |
| 00:13.50 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: So you select the module you were trying to get running, et voila. |
| 00:14.02 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: Jobs a goodun, as they say. |
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| 00:14.11 | bloo1 | rp_ learn about /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:14.14 | thaly | rp_: if you don't want that then you have to use the files in /etc/modprobe.d/ probably /etc/modprobe.d/aliases |
| 00:14.33 | nailbiter | Erreur404: i see. in that case, you might want to build a small base system first, then burn it into a bootable image (with either syslinux or grub as the bootloader) .. |
| 00:14.33 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: I'm not trying to get a new module running, I'm trying to do what is after the "note to debian users" here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=nForce&chip=NM2360&module=intel8x0 |
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| 00:15.09 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: that requires some aliases I don't have, and can't (I might be mistaken of course) set through modconf |
| 00:15.11 | rp_ | thaly: if using modprobe.d, do I have to update-something like in /etc/modutils? |
| 00:15.22 | nailbiter | Erreur404: if you're having trouble making it compact enough, you may have to start using squashfs (as on the gentoo livecd) or compressed loopback (as on knoppix) .. |
| 00:16.01 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: Right... thanks. That's a good piece of information. Just add the file to the location in its own file (as per the instructions) and run: update-modules |
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| 00:16.29 | thaly | rp_, it is automatically regenerated on each boot from the files in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 00:16.41 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: would that location be /etc/modprobe.d/ ? |
| 00:16.49 | thomas_adam | ZenithDK_: Yup. |
| 00:17.13 | sussudio | thomas_adam: xdcc goes a bit like this: |
| 00:17.27 | sussudio | #1 50x [600M] Windows ME (who the fuck wants this).iso |
| 00:17.41 | ZenithDK_ | ok, just got confused by the /etc/modutils they wrote...but thanks for your help...my system should be 100% back to speed now, so no more bugging you or others ;) |
| 00:17.41 | Erreur404 | nailbiter: ok, i will try again with knoppix...but syslinux sounds good to me !!! thanks!! |
| 00:17.54 | thaly | rp_, sorry, update-modules does it for you... |
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| 00:18.08 | rp_ | thaly: ok. trying... |
| 00:18.12 | Nurbs | /msg sussudio send 1 |
| 00:18.20 | sussudio | :-| |
| 00:18.33 | rp_ | thaly: done! works fine! |
| 00:18.33 | hooya | nailbiter, my root fs is a gzipped ext2 (just like in the woody install cd) that should not be a concern of grub right? |
| 00:18.37 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Oh, nice. |
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| 00:18.52 | Nurbs | !find debian sarge leaked release |
| 00:18.53 | sussudio | thomas_adam: they're bots sending out warez when you ask them. |
| 00:18.55 | hooya | nailbiter, it should just make the files available to the kernel correct? |
| 00:19.00 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'debian sarge leaked release' returned no results. |
| 00:19.00 | sussudio | there's hundreds of them on nets like efnet |
| 00:19.01 | nailbiter | hooya: that's right -- it's up to the kernel to figure out that it's a compressed initrd image. |
| 00:19.07 | Nurbs | damn |
| 00:19.15 | sussudio | ok, maybe thousands. |
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| 00:21.10 | hooya | nailbiter, would the loading of ramdisk have anything to do with it? |
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| 00:21.31 | thaly | hooya, of course you have to have the support for the fs of the image statically in the kernel... |
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| 00:21.44 | r0dent | hi |
| 00:21.54 | r0dent | how come /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so makes apache2 segfault all of a sudden? |
| 00:21.57 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: shouldn't it update /etc/modules.conf afterwards? as in the contents of the file should be added there? |
| 00:21.58 | thaly | hooya, the initrrd img that is |
| 00:22.13 | hooya | thaly, it's not the kernel i'm having problems with. grub is freaking out about a mismatched stage1/stage2. |
| 00:22.23 | ZenithDK_ | thomas_adam: or do I need to add manually to that as well? |
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| 00:23.18 | hooya | nailbiter, the grub manual did say something about using uppermem when reporting a false limit to the kernel. but that's not the case here and i can't see why it doesn't work like it friggin should. :( (what am i doing wrong??) |
| 00:24.37 | nailbiter | hooya: what exactly is happening? is the kernel failing to boot because grub isn't pulling the kernel image off disc properly? or has the initrd not been loaded at all? |
| 00:25.46 | menteco | where can I download Sid CD images from? |
| 00:26.10 | hooya | nailbiter, grub loads, shows me the menu. when i boot off of it, it finds the kernel image (displays about two lines worth of info) and then says "Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt stage1/stage2" and stops. |
| 00:26.12 | Nurbs | they're outdated anyway :) |
| 00:26.21 | Nurbs | menteco: you might as well download sarge images and upgrade |
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| 00:27.07 | muppo | damn unrar it sucks |
| 00:27.36 | nailbiter | hooya: ok. could you make an image without a menu.lst and simply drop into the grub shell? are you able to browse (cd)/ and see the kernel image and the initrd then? |
| 00:28.14 | hooya | nailbiter, yes. i type 'c' and drop to the grub shell and can see the contents of the iso fs. |
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| 00:28.28 | tapas | hmm, can i somehow checksum all packages in my system? |
| 00:28.38 | tapas | i have the feeling something is fsck'ed up |
| 00:28.46 | tapas | vi gives segfault.. |
| 00:28.50 | r0dent | how come /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so makes apache2 segfault all of a sudden? |
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| 00:29.21 | nailbiter | hooya: can you try a 'blocklist (cd)/initrd' (or whatever your initrd image is)? does that print a blocklist to the console without bombing out? |
| 00:29.21 | hooya | they still haven't fixed the php4 segfaulting? |
| 00:29.29 | nailbiter | hooya: nope. |
| 00:29.33 | r0dent | it's a known thing? |
| 00:29.39 | r0dent | it was working fine yesterday! |
| 00:29.51 | hooya | r0dent, upgraded recently? |
| 00:29.59 | r0dent | yea, uh last night.. bad idea? |
| 00:30.08 | nailbiter | r0dent: downgrade to your php packages to 4.3.8-2 (or earlier). :) |
| 00:30.10 | hooya | r0dent, you guessed it. |
| 00:30.17 | r0dent | blarg.. |
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| 00:30.28 | nailbiter | r0dent: you can grab copies of those from snapshot.debian.net. :) |
| 00:30.48 | tapas | can anybody show me what md5sum /usr/bin/vimshows on his system? |
| 00:31.11 | _rene_ | 5a2a16f7228aad444a021decc1cbc667 /usr/bin/vim <-- sarge |
| 00:31.23 | nailbiter | tapas: a86ebcc0a1c34e77a5fbed4013df7030 # vim-6.3-013+2 from sid. |
| 00:31.36 | thomas_adam | a535353353536c00000 <-- made up. |
| 00:31.37 | hooya | nailbiter, i tried booting without the initrd before (just to see if i can at least get the kernel to start booting..) and it still did the same thing.. can i try the blocklist with the kernelimage (what is blocklist? listing of the blocks i suppose..) |
| 00:31.41 | greycat | tapas: install debsums |
| 00:31.47 | cnelson | anyone have problems today when updating unstable today -- hardware clock issues? |
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| 00:31.53 | tapas | greycat: ok |
| 00:31.54 | thomas_adam | cnelson: BTS |
| 00:32.02 | nailbiter | hooya: yes. it also works as a short test. :) |
| 00:32.06 | thaly | hooya, sorry if you answered that already, but did you make the cd image like it is shown in the grub manual? |
| 00:32.33 | cnelson | thomas_adam: ok thanks |
| 00:32.41 | hooya | thaly, yeah. i get to the point where i can boot off of the CD and browse the filesystem. |
| 00:33.10 | tapas | if i find a bad one, how do i force a reinstall of that package? |
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| 00:33.18 | nailbiter | hooya: if those work, try running the 'kernel (cd)/vmlinuz...' and 'initrd (cd)/initrd...' commands themselves: does grub break then, or only afterward, when the kernel itself is booting? |
| 00:33.39 | nailbiter | tapas: apt-get install --reinstall |
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| 00:33.52 | thaly | tapas, why dont you read the apt-get manpage? (apt-get install --reinstall <pkg> |
| 00:34.00 | thaly | ) |
| 00:34.12 | cnelson | thomas_adam: any idea on what package? I can't even boot anymore on that machien to figure out what the problem was ... |
| 00:34.27 | thomas_adam | cnelson: Where does it freeze? |
| 00:34.27 | tapas | thaly, nailbiter thanks |
| 00:34.54 | thomas_adam | cnelson: can you try: linux S init=/bin/bash root=/dev/whatever ro (from your boot prompt)? |
| 00:35.02 | hooya | nailbiter, the commands by themselves work. it breaks on booting. boo ting -- i suppose ;) |
| 00:35.09 | cnelson | on shutdown it frooze at 'writing system time to hardware clock' -- now the machine is cold dead -- won't even power on |
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| 00:35.40 | hooya | is there a 'hot dead'? |
| 00:35.44 | tapas | interesting vi, and vim segfault, but vim.org does not.. |
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| 00:36.09 | thaly | hooya, yes there is - mine was for quite a few days :) |
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| 00:36.30 | cnelson | sure, hot dead means it boots but is still screwed, eh :) |
| 00:36.31 | samuel | hey all |
| 00:36.44 | hooya | how about a warm dead? is that when it won't boot for a few minutes after a power down (when it's still warm)? |
| 00:36.50 | thaly | tapas, try to move /etc/vim/vimrc out of the way and see if they segfault again |
| 00:36.55 | nailbiter | hooya: are the kernel images themselves ok? tried booting them from a regular disk before? |
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| 00:37.27 | cnelson | ok -- well this is a disconnect the power supply and check connections and still dead sorta old dead |
| 00:37.31 | samuel | does anyone know of a tool that will conver a whole bunch of images from high quality to low quality? not gimp or something like that, i want to do alot of these images on the fly... (they are jpg) |
| 00:37.56 | thaly | samuel, imagemagic |
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| 00:38.03 | nailbiter | samuel: try 'convert', from the imagemagick suite. i think there's a '-quality' option that affects jpeg and png compression .. |
| 00:38.13 | hooya | nailbiter, ah ha.. didn't think of that. the history of the kernel is this: compiled and tested (by running it). then i ran the rdev.sh on it as it says in the woody cd. i haven't tested it since. good point. |
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| 00:38.26 | cnelson | so I'm the only lucky one to have this problem today, huh? sucks for me |
| 00:38.27 | samuel | sweet, thanks thaly, nailbiter |
| 00:38.29 | tapas | hooya: yep.. still segfault [renamed .vimrc and .viminfo] |
| 00:38.32 | tapas | oops |
| 00:38.40 | tapas | thaly: yep.. still segfault [renamed .vimrc and .viminfo] |
| 00:39.13 | joh | hello, I've edited the /etc/security/limits.conf and restarted the inetd service, but the changes doesn't seem to take effect! (btw, man limits.conf differs from the format of the limits.conf file) |
| 00:39.23 | hooya | tapas, lots of oops for me today. the kernel. now you. am i the oops magnet or what? :) |
| 00:39.25 | thaly | tapas, not only your own .vimrc but the system wide /etc/vim/vimrc too? |
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| 00:39.42 | tapas | hooya: hehe, coincidence.. |
| 00:39.49 | tapas | thaly: forgot that one.. one moment |
| 00:39.59 | cnelson | any idea what package updates the hardware clock during shutdown? |
| 00:40.01 | dephi | why does the latest ifupdown delete /etc/network/ifstate? |
| 00:40.19 | hooya | nailbiter, can an rdev'ed kernel boot like normal? |
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| 00:40.22 | deadcat | cnelson: hwclock |
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| 00:40.26 | nailbiter | cnelson: it's /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh in 'util-linux' .. |
| 00:40.44 | thaly | tapas, if you have something like /etc/vim/vimrc.dpkg-dist move it in place instead |
| 00:40.44 | Vilim | I am having trouble getting my Samsung ML-1740 laser printer to work with woody. It gets detected fine when I plug it in, cups doesn't complain when I add it. But when I try to print anything it just gets absourbed. Cups says that it completed fine, but it doesn't actually come out |
| 00:40.52 | nailbiter | hooya: i think the 'root=' boot option overrides the embedded rdev value anyway .. |
| 00:41.14 | tapas | thaly: no don't have that one.. btw: i suspect that it was maybe my kernel upgrade [though i already reverted back] |
| 00:41.18 | hacim | my fascgi server doesn't start, and there are no errors in the logs, any ideas? |
| 00:41.19 | M4hd1 | is it possible to add users to a group just when they r created? (like a skel, but for permissions) |
| 00:41.22 | cnelson | thanks |
| 00:41.22 | hooya | nailbiter, ok. do i need to rdev it then? if i'm going to use grub? |
| 00:41.26 | tapas | thaly: i bake my custum kernels so this might be the cause |
| 00:41.45 | thaly | tapas, and it would affect only vim??? |
| 00:41.53 | Vilim | I first tried the included samsung driver. then I tried the reccomended linuxprinting.org driver (pxlmono) |
| 00:41.57 | Vilim | but it doesn't work |
| 00:42.00 | nailbiter | hooya: i don't think it even matters if it's rdev'd or not. have you tried test booting it from some other media, just to see if it actually works? like regular hard disk? |
| 00:42.09 | tapas | thaly: no, vim is one of them. X don't start either.. those are the only two i found yet |
| 00:42.15 | tapas | thaly: everything else works.. |
| 00:42.16 | Vilim | when I us an HP driver it will turn (form feeding) but nothing will print |
| 00:42.19 | tapas | afaics |
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| 00:42.22 | hooya | tapas, you didn't bake it like you would the magic brownies did you? :) |
| 00:42.30 | r0dent | wow, snapshot.debian.net is rather cool |
| 00:42.35 | Chilling_Silence | Im after a Hex Editor to modify a value I have in a Win32 Executable here..... What package should I apt-get? |
| 00:42.40 | tapas | hooya: i hope not :) other wise this would explain its confusion |
| 00:42.43 | Vilim | this occurs when I try to print using lp, the cups test page, or just echo "hello" > /dev/usb/lp0 |
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| 00:43.04 | joh | do I need to restart any service for the changes in /etc/security/limits.conf to take effect? |
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| 00:43.37 | blazefx | Hey all, |
| 00:43.46 | nailbiter | Chilling_Silence: i actually use 'xxd' (a hexdumper) and a regular text editor together for stuff like that. :) |
| 00:43.48 | tapas | thaly, hooya: actually i tried a patch that ingo molnar gave me on top of voluntary preemption P3... |
| 00:43.55 | tapas | [on top of 2.6.8.1] |
| 00:43.57 | greycat | joh: shouldn't have to |
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| 00:44.10 | blazefx | What do I have to type at boot prompt to install the new kernel? |
| 00:44.16 | hooya | tapas, i'm telling you.. magic stuff baked in. ;) |
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| 00:44.24 | tapas | thaly, hooya: i rebooted, and neither X nor vim worked |
| 00:44.27 | joh | greycat: I've set up the number of open files limit for a user, but when running ulimit -n as that user, it still displays the old value. |
| 00:44.42 | thaly | hmm |
| 00:44.46 | tapas | thaly, hooya: then i reverted to 2.6.8.1 with P3 [without the additional patch] and the behaviour persists.. |
| 00:44.48 | greycat | joh: you logged out and back in, yes/ |
| 00:44.49 | hooya | tapas, maybe they were preempted prematurely ;) |
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| 00:44.58 | tapas | hooya: hehe good one :) |
| 00:45.00 | blazefx | Any one know how to install the newest kernel when installing debian |
| 00:45.04 | joh | greycat: yes |
| 00:45.09 | greycat | blazefx: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:45.17 | WiFiTux | can someone tell me how to add a folder to a zip file? zip file * ? |
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| 00:45.35 | joh | greycat: any ideas? |
| 00:45.40 | tapas | thaly, hooya: but around that time i also got a failed fsck, so i figured to check the fs first.. |
| 00:45.40 | greycat | !any ideas |
| 00:45.40 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box of herring, a little WD-40, and a handful of rabid weasels. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
| 00:45.43 | dephi | ifupdown version 0.6.4-4.10exp1 deletes the ifstate file during shutdown and startup, this breaks the auto setup of eth0 and lo on my systems. why does it need to delete this file? |
| 00:46.10 | joh | greycat: eh? any ideas about why ulimits are not updated. |
| 00:46.17 | greycat | joh: nope |
| 00:46.21 | joh | greycat: ok |
| 00:46.31 | WiFiTux | any idea on how to zip a folder? |
| 00:46.47 | greycat | joh: uh... check the pam.d/* file to make sure it's actually *using* the limits pam thingy |
| 00:46.47 | thaly | tapas, the last kernel you use (without the patch) - was the same kernel working before? |
| 00:46.54 | joh | greycat: ok |
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| 00:47.01 | deadcat | WiFiTux: whtas wrong with tar? |
| 00:47.05 | nailbiter | WiFiTux: into a winzip-compatible archive? use 'zip' from the 'zip' package. |
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| 00:47.22 | greycat | people still use zip(1)? |
| 00:47.24 | hooya | tapas, of course! preemption would most likely count as a failed fsck. |
| 00:47.25 | pipeline | WiFiTux: tar -cvpf <filename.tar> <folder> |
| 00:47.25 | tapas | thaly: yep.. i even used the same .config. but i'll recompile once again to make sure |
| 00:47.29 | greycat | I thought people only used unzip |
| 00:47.30 | r0dent | nope, still segfaulting |
| 00:47.41 | greycat | pipeline: maybe add -z to it |
| 00:47.43 | nailbiter | greycat: i dunno. he did ask for it. :) |
| 00:47.45 | tapas | hooya: you know what the voluntary preemption patches are about? |
| 00:47.48 | r0dent | even if i downgrade php to 4.3.4 apache2 still segfaults |
| 00:47.56 | pipeline | greycat: Compression? Bah. |
| 00:47.56 | greycat | well duh, apache2 *sucks*. |
| 00:48.06 | WiFiTux | deadcat, pipeline is for a windows user... |
| 00:48.06 | samuel | what would be a good image format for web pages that all browsers read and has transparency? does ie do png images? |
| 00:48.14 | greycat | WiFiTux: WinZIP can unzip .tar.gz files. |
| 00:48.16 | pipeline | WiFiTux: Eh, lots of windows programs can open tar.gz |
| 00:48.18 | r0dent | it worked fine!! wtf happened?? |
| 00:48.19 | thaly | tapas, did you reversed the patch by patching again with -r or unpacked the kernel tarball a new? |
| 00:48.24 | caphuso | WiFiTux: any sane windows archiver tool understands .tar.{gz,bz2} |
| 00:48.27 | WiFiTux | How about XP? |
| 00:48.31 | tapas | thaly: the latter |
| 00:48.35 | hooya | tapas, not really. i'm just being a clown. |
| 00:48.38 | thaly | huh? |
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| 00:48.46 | blazefx | From the debian installer is there any way to see what hard drive slot my new hard drive would be in. I mean like /dev/hdc1 or what not |
| 00:48.58 | joh | greycat: it's not! :) but enabling it made no difference :( (it was in the pam.d/login file) |
| 00:48.59 | thaly | samuel, ie has problems with png :( |
| 00:49.02 | greycat | blazefx: alt-f2, dmesg |
| 00:49.03 | WiFiTux | pipeline, ok, so tar -cvpf file and folder.. |
| 00:49.17 | thaly | samuel, png transparency that is |
| 00:49.17 | tapas | hooya: oh ok, my humor sensor failed to classify the last one :) |
| 00:49.20 | pamela | whats the comand to reconfigure x? i know is dpkg-reconfigure i dont know the rest? |
| 00:49.20 | hooya | tapas, but if you really think about it.. what i said is true. ;) |
| 00:49.24 | blazefx | Grey cat that is not helping me |
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| 00:49.28 | caphuso | pamela: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:49.29 | pipeline | WiFiTux: whatever you put after the f is the name of the file you want to create. The remaining arguments are the things yo uwant to go inside the tarball. |
| 00:49.30 | greycat | joh: and you're actually logging in with /bin/login, then? on a text console? not with *dm? |
| 00:49.30 | samuel | thaly, thats exactly what i need :( |
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| 00:49.39 | k-god | Anyone aware of any IRC/AIM/YIM filtering / content monitoring systems? |
| 00:49.43 | greycat | blazefx: it's precisely what you asked for. |
| 00:49.47 | bill | k-god: Snort and dsniff are handy |
| 00:49.59 | greycat | k-god: a parent standing behind the user. |
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| 00:50.03 | blazefx | well listen I am at the select disk drive and only hda comes up. |
| 00:50.04 | pamela | caphuso thank you |
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| 00:50.11 | joh | greycat: yes, in a VT... |
| 00:50.15 | rw-rw-r-- | YAY FOR RAIDED SWAP SPACE! |
| 00:50.16 | rw-rw-r-- | *cough* |
| 00:50.25 | pipeline | WiFiTux: If you make it -cvzpf, it'll compress it and tar it together at the same time. |
| 00:50.37 | blazefx | I installed a new ide hard drive through a ide controller, Why doestn it show up |
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| 00:50.42 | thaly | samuel, there is a way but not automatical - you have to edit every image by hand |
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| 00:50.49 | WiFiTux | what was the ls to check the file size? |
| 00:50.50 | greycat | blazefx: alt-f2, dmesg |
| 00:50.55 | pipeline | WiFiTux: -h |
| 00:50.58 | caphuso | that reminds me... is it nowadays safe to put swap on a software RAID? |
| 00:51.00 | WiFiTux | hehe just as df |
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| 00:51.05 | greycat | how the fuck would *we* know what *your* kernel thinks about *your* hardware if you don't *tell* us? |
| 00:51.18 | k-god | greycat: Youth center. |
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| 00:51.23 | k-god | bill: Too low-level. |
| 00:51.38 | WiFiTux | pipeline, ls -h is not giving me the size |
| 00:51.38 | blazefx | alt f2 doesnt do anything |
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| 00:51.50 | bill | k-god: Well, not if you write your regexes well |
| 00:51.51 | greycat | then you have bigger issues. |
| 00:51.52 | pipeline | WiFiTux: ls -lh, for long descriptions |
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| 00:52.03 | pipeline | WiFiTux: -l = long descriptions -h = human readable sizes |
| 00:52.07 | blazefx | Greycat you really arent helping |
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| 00:52.15 | k-god | bill: I'm talking about something which would manage the content in realitme. Not just monitor it. |
| 00:52.21 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 00:52.24 | WiFiTux | cool1 thanks guys! |
| 00:52.37 | Vilim | caphuso: theres no point, I believe that the kernel does raid on the swap as it is |
| 00:52.38 | samuel | thaly, you know of any image format that has transparency that works on all browsers? |
| 00:52.47 | thaly | samuel, in gimp when you save the image as a transparent png, you have to uncheck the option "save color values from transparent pixels" |
| 00:52.47 | bill | k-god: Yeah, attach something to monitor it or do stuff with fireall rules--we have something like that at tamu (netsquid) |
| 00:52.48 | blazefx | I dont understand, I bought a new hard drive, installed it and it wolnt show up on the list. |
| 00:52.48 | pipeline | caphuso: I've heard of doing file-backed swap on RAID-1 |
| 00:52.53 | samuel | thaly, the problem is i have ALOT of files |
| 00:52.58 | thaly | samuel, only gif |
| 00:52.59 | zinx | samuel: .gif |
| 00:53.13 | zinx | samuel: but apparently there's some javascript you can make IE use |
| 00:53.15 | samuel | GIF has transparency??? |
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| 00:53.24 | caphuso | Vilim: i have a point, actually |
| 00:53.27 | joh | samuel: welcome to the future :P |
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| 00:53.35 | samuel | haha |
| 00:53.38 | zinx | samuel: it's had transparency for a very long time |
| 00:53.44 | thaly | samuel, then you need to recompile all image toouls and libs on your system and include lzw compression :) |
| 00:53.46 | nailbiter | r0dent: take care to downgrade all your other php4 binary modules as well. :) |
| 00:53.47 | liu7 | any idea why this doesn't work |
| 00:53.48 | liu7 | 0 21 * * * /usr/bin/mysqldump --opt -u blah -pblah extreme > "/var/www/html/private/dbbackup/extreme-`date +"%d-%m-%Y"`.sql" |
| 00:53.50 | zinx | samuel: it doesn't have translucency, but you didn't ask for that ;) |
| 00:53.51 | liu7 | I works in bash |
| 00:53.52 | k-god | bill: One thought: rewrite objectionable language with words pulled at random from a dictionary. |
| 00:53.58 | thaly | damn |
| 00:54.01 | nailbiter | r0dent: oops .. you're gone. |
| 00:54.04 | thaly | s/toouls/tools/ |
| 00:54.04 | hooya | samuel, you can get IE to do transparency on png |
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| 00:54.09 | Vilim | caphuso: I must have seen your question out of context :) |
| 00:54.12 | samuel | thaly, zinx thanks! didnt know gif had transparency... and thats all i need |
| 00:54.13 | greycat | liu7: quote balancing issues. |
| 00:54.22 | tapas | ok reinstalling vim didn't help. off to rebuild kernel |
| 00:54.24 | greycat | liu7: "foo`" is the first token. |
| 00:54.34 | greycat | liu7: so the backquote is unbalanced. |
| 00:54.41 | caphuso | Vilim: there wasn't any context |
| 00:54.42 | k-god | bill: Any refs to your system anywhere? |
| 00:54.52 | thaly | hooya, how? (the ie thing) |
| 00:54.58 | hooya | samuel: the is a simple and elegent hack using stylesheet only |
| 00:55.08 | hooya | hang on.. |
| 00:55.10 | samuel | hooya, no kidding? |
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| 00:55.23 | nailbiter | liu7: also, remember to escape % in crontab files. % will get substituted with newlines otherwise. |
| 00:55.25 | hess | eae |
| 00:55.38 | blazefx | Can any one help me with this god damn problem, I have an ide controler wich loads up my hard drive and my two cdrom drives. My other hard drive connected not through the ide controller works but, I need the second hard drive on the ide controller because it is 200 gbs and needs a 133 . But anyways that hard drive is not showing up. Any ideas??? |
| 00:55.44 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 00:55.44 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack of herring, a little cod liver oil, and 42 starving goats. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 00:56.02 | bill | k-god: Security.tamu.edu |
| 00:56.04 | thaly | hooya, arent the word "elegant" and "hack" a controvercy in itself? :))) |
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| 00:56.18 | greycat | contradiction, not controversy |
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| 00:56.20 | bill | k-god: You'd have to modify it a bit to get what you want, but you just need the regexes |
| 00:56.22 | iceman | how does one change user specs once done with adduser? for example a users real name, shell and so forth |
| 00:56.33 | nailbiter | iceman: 'usermod' |
| 00:56.34 | greycat | iceman: chfn, vipw, etc. |
| 00:56.42 | iceman | thx |
| 00:56.45 | Vilim | caphuso: Ok, then the answer is that the kernel does it whether you want it to or not (I have never seen anything to disable it). It is pointless to partition an already software raid device to have swap because you will be circumventing what the kernel has built into it |
| 00:56.51 | liu7 | I changed it to 0 21 * * * /usr/bin/mysqldump --opt -u blah -pblah extreme > /var/www/html/private/dbbackup/extreme-`date +\"%d-%m-%Y\"`.sql |
| 00:56.52 | hooya | thaly, not really. hacks can be elegent. as you will see if i can find the damn thing. it's funny how it's harder to find files in my own filesystem comparet to the web. |
| 00:56.54 | liu7 | but I still get the error |
| 00:57.07 | blazefx | Alright In my bios I only see one Hard drive, how do I get the other one to show up? |
| 00:57.12 | hooya | thaly, especially if you've been mucking around with javascript to get it to work. |
| 00:57.15 | nailbiter | liu7: escape the %s! |
| 00:57.23 | thomas_adam | blazefx: IDE autodetect |
| 00:57.30 | k-god | bill: are your users allowed to play solitair? |
| 00:57.31 | greycat | liu7: the double quotes are completely unnecessary, by the way... |
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| 00:58.08 | k-god | bill: Where's the chat-specific filter? |
| 00:58.13 | k-god | bill: ...on that page? |
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| 00:58.48 | ercin | is php on debian sarge mdstring enabled? |
| 00:58.58 | thomas_adam | liu7: you need to escape the %, thus: \% |
| 00:59.21 | hennewou | Rox-filer rocks! I wonder why it isn't in official repository |
| 00:59.25 | thomas_adam | liu7: and remove your pithy quotes. |
| 00:59.38 | thomas_adam | hennewou: No willing maintainers. |
| 00:59.45 | liu7 | thanks |
| 00:59.50 | thaly | how cool, my mosue pointer is semitransparent and i just noticed that... |
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| 00:59.58 | thomas_adam | One reason for this, would be the *fucking* redtape process you have to go through. |
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| 01:00.39 | samuel | hooya, in case you are interested, is this what you were looking for? http://www.mongus.net/pngInfo/ |
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| 01:00.52 | t3h | can someone help me with cdburning? i have k3b, cdrecord, and cdrdao installed, but cdrecord -scanbus shows no devices, and ide-scsi module IS loaded |
| 01:01.01 | t3h | i have no /dev/pg* |
| 01:01.05 | caphuso | Vilim: i just need more swap space, and i'd get enough if i raid-0'ed my two swaps together |
| 01:01.19 | greycat | t3h: (1) suppress ide-cd detection of the device; (2) load sg driver. |
| 01:01.53 | hennewou | thomas_adam: there should be a maintainer for it. Rox-filer/icewm/xscreensaver makes a very nice desktop. |
| 01:02.00 | Curtman | Anyone know what might be causing my mouse to freeze up every 10 minutes or so? Especially when using The Gimp, and doing lots of shift/alt/ctrl clicking? I'm about to lose my mind. |
| 01:02.05 | rpetre | hello, what are the differences between netkit-ping and iputils-ping? i'm experiencing a really "twilight zone" kind of situation with them right now... |
| 01:02.05 | thomas_adam | hennewou: Does it now. |
| 01:02.11 | thomas_adam | hennewou: Well, I suppose so. |
| 01:02.15 | caphuso | (0) stop worrying about /dev/pg* unless you actually have an IDE burner attached to your parallel port |
| 01:02.17 | hooya | samuel, no. that's not it. i found this hack using class selector such that it would use the class selector in IE but since moz/netscape's class selector is broken, they wouldn't complain about the MS image filters specified there... it was pretty elegent. |
| 01:02.20 | muadib | i'm looking for a very small linux distribution that is made to install to hardisk that has slattach so i can network an old computer ... any suggestions ? |
| 01:02.29 | thomas_adam | muadib: tomsrtbt |
| 01:02.51 | greycat | burning CDs on a parport is a very bad idea. too much chance of buffer underruns. |
| 01:03.08 | t3h | greycat: suppress ide-cd detection of device? well i know how to unload and load modules, and now that i did so, i'm seeing it in cdrecord -scanbus, but how do i make that permanent on debian? i'm new to debian's auto-detect and such |
| 01:03.09 | muadib | thomas_adam: i've tried to install that one to hardisk but it keeps loading itself into ramdisk even after i've copied it to the hardrive ... quite annoying |
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| 01:03.22 | bill | k-god: Well, it's really designed for virus filtering, not chat |
| 01:03.23 | hennewou | thomas_adam: I had to add 'deb http://www.hrw.one.pl/apt/ sid/' to my sources-list. |
| 01:03.23 | thomas_adam | muadib: heh. |
| 01:03.28 | greycat | t3h: typically by putting something like append="hdc=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf, just as the FAQs all said. |
| 01:03.28 | pdpc-nsa | i shit on debian |
| 01:03.29 | caphuso | greycat: yeah, and chances to find a parport burner that supports BurnFree (or something similar) are probably quite low :) |
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| 01:03.45 | pdpc-nsa | what theh hell r u doing here? |
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| 01:04.05 | thomas_adam | hennewou: That's because that repository and the packages therein are unofficial. And I've done some stuff on rox-filer before, so I need not to be told. |
| 01:04.15 | t3h | greycat: oh, my bad lol, i saw ide-scsi module loaded already and thought that it was in there. thanks. |
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| 01:05.27 | nono | is there something wrong with the #java channel? happens nothing when I join it... |
| 01:05.54 | thomas_adam | nono, nononononono.... |
| 01:05.57 | thomas_adam | nono: ask in #freenode |
| 01:06.02 | ApEtc | nono: Are you reg'd with nickserv? I believe #java requires it |
| 01:06.02 | greycat | maybe they're all garbage-collecting |
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| 01:06.31 | nono | ApEtc: I'm not... how do I do that? |
| 01:06.50 | ApEtc | nono: /msg nickserv help |
| 01:06.56 | ApEtc | nono: The rest will be explained from there |
| 01:07.11 | nono | ApEtc: thanks!! |
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| 01:07.57 | hooya | samuel, sorry, can't find it. |