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| 00:00.13 | abrotman | !tell root__ about root |
| 00:00.28 | ribnitz | abrotman: can't that be automated into dpkg? |
| 00:00.34 | Arian | need help with kernel 2.6.7 nforce 2 sound problem... someone wants to help pls? :) |
| 00:00.40 | maher | ribnitz: i think it is... |
| 00:00.40 | abrotman | ribnitz: it is .. it's call reenforcement |
| 00:00.54 | KrispyKringle | Arian, what's the problem? |
| 00:01.01 | KrispyKringle | i have it working with alsa on 2.6.5. |
| 00:01.08 | KrispyKringle | not debian, but linux is linux :) |
| 00:01.18 | ribnitz | abrotman: ie. spam them senseless so that they can only work as non-root? :) |
| 00:01.26 | abrotman | ribnitz: yes |
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| 00:01.39 | sgeigerbot | thomas_adam: okay, you're unignored...at least for a little while. |
| 00:01.59 | thomas_adam | sgeigerbot: I feel... priviliged. |
| 00:02.05 | ribnitz | why isn't there a deb image for 2.6.7? |
| 00:02.12 | thomas_adam | ribnitz: There is. |
| 00:02.14 | midoriiro | has anyone else had dpkg-reconfigure --all hang after stopping Xprt? |
| 00:02.21 | Arian | the problem is that it just doestn work |
| 00:02.21 | Rippey | anyone to help me with my sata raid pb ? |
| 00:02.25 | Arian | i have tried everything |
| 00:02.32 | Arian | he still says, theres no soundcore.o |
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| 00:02.34 | sgeigerbot | Rippey: probably they will after you ask the question. |
| 00:02.42 | KrispyKringle | Arian, he? who's he? |
| 00:02.43 | troubled | sgeigerbot: we need a distributed rbl style ignore list shared amongst the top 100 users :) |
| 00:02.44 | sgeigerbot | ~+sata |
| 00:02.45 | apt | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. If that seems too much trouble, it's the price of using bleeding-edge hardware. ("You can tell the ... |
| 00:02.45 | ribnitz | thomas_adam: kernel-image-2.6.7-soethingorother? |
| 00:02.45 | Rippey | i asked |
| 00:02.50 | eye69 | ribnitz: I just now compiled 2.6.5...no choice |
| 00:02.51 | maher | Arian: what kernel |
| 00:02.52 | Rippey | anyone know if there is something more than promise driver to have fasttrack working ? i have my sata drive but not the raid array |
| 00:02.54 | Arian | but everything is set right in the kernelconfig |
| 00:02.54 | thomas_adam | ribnitz: woody? |
| 00:02.57 | Arian | 2.6.7 |
| 00:03.02 | ribnitz | thomas_adam: sarge |
| 00:03.03 | maher | Arian: debian kernel? |
| 00:03.09 | Arian | source |
| 00:03.11 | sgeigerbot | troubled: no thanks. |
| 00:03.18 | maher | Arian: compiled yourself? |
| 00:03.44 | epicenter | This is hell .. this is absolute hell |
| 00:03.44 | radiod | debian install question: i decided to try out the jfs system and now i have a list of mount options...is it a good idea to select any of these? (noatime, nodev, nosuid, noexec, ro, sync) |
| 00:03.49 | epicenter | This WiFi card does not work at all. |
| 00:03.55 | epicenter | I have no reason to believe it ever will. |
| 00:03.58 | Arian | yep |
| 00:03.59 | ribnitz | thomas_adam: 2.6, 2.6.5, 2.6.6, no 2.6.7.. |
| 00:04.00 | troubled | epicenter: next time buy one thats supported :) |
| 00:04.06 | epicenter | IT CAME BUILT INTO THE LAPTOP, dude. |
| 00:04.13 | Arian | maher: yep |
| 00:04.13 | midoriiro | radiod, you had those options with other fs too |
| 00:04.16 | troubled | epicenter: oh, well in that case that sucks |
| 00:04.18 | maher | epicenter: next time buy one that's supported |
| 00:04.20 | KrispyKringle | epicenter, what chipset? |
| 00:04.24 | troubled | epicenter: have you tried the ndis wrapper yet? |
| 00:04.26 | sgeigerbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.26 | epicenter | Intel Pro/Wireless 2200 BG. |
| 00:04.32 | epicenter | troubled: Yes. It doesn't load. |
| 00:04.35 | epicenter | The module is 'invalid format' |
| 00:04.36 | maher | Arian: did yo compile sound stuff as modules? |
| 00:04.39 | epicenter | or in 2.4 .. |
| 00:04.41 | Arian | nope |
| 00:04.46 | Arian | maher * not M |
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| 00:04.47 | epicenter | it says 'Guessed IRQ 11 for Device 02:02.0' then locks the machine |
| 00:04.54 | epicenter | SO, total failure. |
| 00:05.09 | ribnitz | ok. going to have a nap now. |
| 00:05.09 | troubled | epicenter: is it really that irq and device? |
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| 00:05.33 | ReVisions | http://pastebin.com/83562 err :( |
| 00:05.42 | maher | Arian: do you mean y? |
| 00:05.45 | radiod | midoriiro: yes but...i cant think of a reason to select any of them...except im not sure about noatime and sync...i dont know what these do exactly |
| 00:05.53 | thomas_adam | ribnitz: I haven't forgotten about your m4 |
| 00:05.56 | radiod | ro i get |
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| 00:06.05 | radiod | noexec...thats ok too |
| 00:06.07 | eye69 | radiod: noatime makes the FS not update access times on files |
| 00:06.07 | troubled | radiod: man mount |
| 00:06.11 | epicenter | troubled: I don't know. |
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| 00:06.20 | midoriiro | what in the kernel would preven x server from starting? "Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isnt already running" |
| 00:06.23 | epicenter | It just DECIDES it is when I modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 00:06.26 | troubled | epicenter: lspci might help |
| 00:06.28 | maher | Arian: what is complaining about soundcore.o |
| 00:06.31 | radiod | troubled: cant do that yet im still installing it |
| 00:06.35 | midoriiro | radiod noatime is generally good unless you want hd statistics |
| 00:06.38 | eye69 | radiod: It's very nice when running for instance a very busy mail server. |
| 00:06.51 | epicenter | troubled: But it won't even LOAD the module for 2.6, so it's a moot point |
| 00:07.02 | epicenter | troubled: I *need* to use 2.6 anyway for its Clock Scaling support. |
| 00:07.15 | troubled | epicenter: did you try google for anything? |
| 00:07.17 | radiod | ok thanks! and "sync"? |
| 00:07.22 | epicenter | troubled: Yep.. |
| 00:07.25 | troubled | :( |
| 00:07.27 | epicenter | about 4 hours of googling. |
| 00:07.43 | ReVisions | http://pastebin.com/83562 err :((( |
| 00:07.46 | ribnitz | thomas_adam: I supposed so. |
| 00:07.47 | troubled | epicenter: well, try join the mailing list for ndiswrapper and ask there I guess |
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| 00:08.05 | abrotman | libqt3-dev |
| 00:08.16 | epicenter | I suppose .. |
| 00:08.20 | thomas_adam | noooo, libncurses5-dev |
| 00:08.32 | thomas_adam | none of this QT shit.. |
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| 00:08.48 | Arian | maher thats not loaded |
| 00:08.59 | Arian | that soundcore.o isnt loaded |
| 00:09.00 | TCW | "the current command did not succeed. The mail server responded: Mailbox exists" <<-- trying to delete an imap-folder which I created for testing purposes a few minutes before... any hints? |
| 00:09.11 | maher | Arian: what says that |
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| 00:09.34 | Arian | sndconfig |
| 00:09.48 | Arian | alsaconfig says, no snd module found or something like that |
| 00:09.51 | Arian | one mom |
| 00:10.14 | maher | Arian: what sound card |
| 00:10.18 | lobomufas | hi |
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| 00:10.24 | Arian | NFORCE 2 |
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| 00:10.36 | maher | Arian: do you know what driver you need |
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| 00:10.54 | Arian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.54 | Arian | modinfo: could not find module snd |
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| 00:10.57 | RTS | how do i get input methods to work with openoffice? iiimf works fine in gnome, but not ooo... |
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| 00:11.20 | maher | Arian: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=intel8x0 |
| 00:11.21 | hlen | We have a lab with ~30 dual-booting machines, they all have the same hardware so we'll upgrade the software in one of them and replicate disks. I want to do it through the network loading a boot disk on each one of them and sshd. Does anyone have experience with this/know a different way? |
| 00:11.22 | Arian | maher i know which driver, and its checked in the kernel * |
| 00:11.32 | Arian | yep that one :) |
| 00:11.34 | maher | Arian: You must turn on the sound support soundcore module. |
| 00:11.45 | Arian | i did |
| 00:11.48 | Arian | thats the weird thing |
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| 00:12.23 | Exasparilla | So, I upgraded to firefox-0.9 in unstable and removed my .firefox and .mozilla directories. Firefox won't start, just keeps printing "*** loading the extensions datasource". Any help? |
| 00:12.27 | maher | Arian: as a _module_ |
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| 00:12.45 | maher | Exasparilla: its broken use the previous one |
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| 00:12.58 | Exasparilla | maher - thx |
| 00:13.00 | Arian | it HAS TO be a module? |
| 00:13.01 | Arian | y? |
| 00:13.18 | baz | hi, my workstation is DHCP, but the DHCP server tells it to use the "wrong" DNS servers. How can I stop it overwriting my custom /etc/resolv.conf every time it renews the DHCP lease? |
| 00:13.27 | themusicgod1 | su, more and ping, are giving segmentation faults, and mozilla coughs up garbage when summoned...any idea what's broken? |
| 00:13.27 | maher | Arian: that's what it said in the link i pasted here for you |
| 00:13.35 | themusicgod1 | or better yet how do i get to root? |
| 00:13.47 | maher | Arian: it said it in bold italic - maybe they really mean it |
| 00:13.55 | maher | Arian: no m |
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| 00:14.12 | T_VoiD | baz: man dhcp-options find the one about DNS servers, and man dhclient.conf, the "supersede" command. combine both in dhclient.conf |
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| 00:14.15 | maher | themusicgod1: oops |
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| 00:14.35 | themusicgod1 | maher: ? |
| 00:14.37 | maher | themusicgod1: do you have debsums installed on your box |
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| 00:14.48 | themusicgod1 | i'm not sure. |
| 00:14.58 | maher | themusicgod1: dpkg -l debsums |
| 00:15.25 | Arian | maher shall i change it to M? |
| 00:15.33 | abrotman | thomas_adam: i want some crab paste |
| 00:15.38 | maher | Arian: i dunno - try and see - won't hurt |
| 00:15.43 | Arian | okidoki |
| 00:15.48 | themusicgod1 | maher: debsums appears to be installed |
| 00:15.57 | thomas_adam | abrotman: mail me your postal address, and I shall send you some. |
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| 00:16.02 | maher | themusicgod1: try strace su and see where it bails |
| 00:16.07 | abrotman | thomas_adam: remind me when i return .. it's dinner time |
| 00:16.13 | thomas_adam | abrotman: wilco. |
| 00:16.18 | thomas_adam | abrotman: I might be in bed though.... |
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| 00:16.37 | goodshit | whats the command to make eth0 boot up everytime?? |
| 00:16.39 | themusicgod1 | maher: dpkg -l debsums : http://thedark.moonside.org/~themusicgod1/error |
| 00:16.49 | nvz_ | goodshit: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:17.03 | goodshit | k |
| 00:17.04 | nvz_ | goodshit: is the only command, to educate you to properly configure the network interfaces |
| 00:17.20 | themusicgod1 | no strace available. is this something only root has access to? |
| 00:17.41 | nvz_ | themusicgod1: maybe you didnt install it |
| 00:17.50 | Arian | maher ill try it now.. brb |
| 00:17.52 | nvz_ | I forgot I am not identified |
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| 00:17.57 | themusicgod1 | nvz_: i'll have it for next time:) |
| 00:18.07 | maher | themusicgod1: backup all your data on this box somewhere |
| 00:18.07 | abrotman | thomas_adam: i doubt it .. bbiaw |
| 00:18.31 | themusicgod1 | maher: i wish |
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| 00:18.31 | maher | themusicgod1: strace is in package strace |
| 00:18.31 | nvz | themusicgod1: next time? |
| 00:18.39 | themusicgod1 | nvz: as in, as soon as i get into root |
| 00:18.41 | afaik | is there a way to change a compile option on a debian package? |
| 00:18.56 | afaik | I installed a php5 package... the damn thing has PEAR disabled :( |
| 00:18.58 | themusicgod1 | before the next time my system is borked |
| 00:19.00 | baz | T_VoiD: thanks, looks perfect |
| 00:19.06 | nvz | afaik: PHP5 isnt en debian |
| 00:19.19 | maher | themusicgod1: if you can't become root you'll have to reboot and boot to single user ot boot off something else |
| 00:19.22 | afaik | nvz, unofficial apt source ;) |
| 00:19.31 | themusicgod1 | maher: ok |
| 00:19.33 | themusicgod1 | i'll try that |
| 00:19.33 | maher | themusicgod1: but first look in syslog for bad stuff like disc errors |
| 00:19.43 | T_VoiD | baz: too bad they didn't give a "ignore" command, if the dhcp servers sends an info you don't want (nor you want to overwrite like supersede) that's not possible hehe |
| 00:20.02 | nvz | afaik: right, so um what do you expect us to help with exactly? would be easier to compile it yourself if you want it that bad |
| 00:20.05 | afaik | but that's irrelevant to the scope of my question though... |
| 00:20.10 | themusicgod1 | syslog: permission denied |
| 00:20.11 | nvz | afaik: would be more work to change the package |
| 00:20.25 | afaik | say a package has an option like --with-gtk2 or something |
| 00:20.30 | maher | afaik: edit debian/rules |
| 00:20.31 | themusicgod1 | booting... |
| 00:20.34 | afaik | can you change that switch by reconfiuring it? |
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| 00:20.45 | thomas_adam | afaik: use |
| 00:20.49 | thomas_adam | *yes |
| 00:20.54 | goodshit | i got it |
| 00:20.59 | goodshit | auto eth0 |
| 00:21.03 | afaik | how? manpages relevant? |
| 00:21.10 | afaik | please ;) |
| 00:21.11 | thomas_adam | afaik: You can grab the source deb and recompile it |
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| 00:21.17 | T_VoiD | afaik: btw in debian if it existed that would then surely be called php5-pear , wasn't on your unofficial source? |
| 00:21.23 | nvz | goodshit: yeah but theres no magic command, you have to edit the config |
| 00:21.41 | goodshit | nvz. i know edit interfaces and add in the auto eth0 |
| 00:21.48 | nvz | goodshit: which is why you have yo read the manual ;) |
| 00:21.54 | afaik | T_VoiD, I know... |
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| 00:21.59 | nvz | goodshit: its goodshit |
| 00:21.59 | afaik | but it's not in there :( |
| 00:22.04 | goodshit | yes its good shit |
| 00:22.08 | goodshit | got it now thx!! |
| 00:22.15 | nvz | np |
| 00:22.15 | goodshit | i like sarge.. |
| 00:22.18 | goodshit | why do people use woody |
| 00:22.20 | afaik | I think when I apt-get installed php5, it removed php4 :( |
| 00:22.24 | Arian | maher: done |
| 00:22.26 | afaik | I wanted it to stay :/ |
| 00:22.35 | afaik | goodshit, because it's rock solid... |
| 00:22.36 | Arian | maher: what do you suggest now? |
| 00:22.41 | goodshit | i seee.. |
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| 00:22.47 | goodshit | sarge is rock solid as well |
| 00:22.54 | maher | try loading the sound module |
| 00:22.58 | afaik | no it's not... |
| 00:23.00 | maher | goodshit: not |
| 00:23.11 | afaik | your not 100% guarenteed each package is error free |
| 00:23.15 | goodshit | rock solid!!! make me laugh :) |
| 00:23.25 | Arian | maher: what commands/parameter? |
| 00:23.26 | goodshit | nothing is rock solid dude.. |
| 00:23.38 | goodshit | is gentoo rock solid?? |
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| 00:23.42 | afaik | most people use woody on production servers |
| 00:23.42 | Arian | hmm a rock is rock solid lol |
| 00:23.46 | maher | Arian: well do whtever it was you were doing before that gave the soundcore error |
| 00:24.03 | afaik | of course, I wouldnt run linux on a production server... |
| 00:24.07 | owner | how do I change the cursor color under the console, aterm, xterm, and eterm? |
| 00:24.08 | afaik | FreeBSD is for that |
| 00:24.25 | afaik | owner, man aterm |
| 00:24.29 | goodshit | debian does boot up fast :) |
| 00:24.39 | RTS | how do i get input methods to work with openoffice? iiimf works fine in gnome, but not ooo... |
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| 00:24.40 | afaik | not as fast is my freebsd box |
| 00:24.42 | Arian | whats the command for loading modules? *hide* |
| 00:24.49 | maher | Arian: modprobe |
| 00:24.50 | snappy2 | Arian: modprobe |
| 00:24.56 | goodshit | is debian rock solid or bsd rock solid?? |
| 00:24.56 | afaik | it boots up in under 30 seconds ;) |
| 00:25.05 | Arian | modprobe soundcore.o |
| 00:25.05 | Arian | FATAL: Module soundcore.o not found. |
| 00:25.05 | JoshH | id much rather use freebsd than woody, on anything |
| 00:25.07 | afaik | that's a rhetorical question |
| 00:25.15 | afaik | YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THE VERSIONS!! |
| 00:25.42 | snappy2 | im trying freebsd out now, it's a tad bit annyoing |
| 00:25.42 | goodshit | 4.10 release vs woody |
| 00:25.42 | snappy2 | annoying even |
| 00:25.42 | maher | Arian: did you reboot? did you do update-modules? |
| 00:25.42 | JoshH | snappy2: so was linux the first time you tried it, im sure |
| 00:25.45 | afaik | snappy2, that;s cause it aint linux ;) |
| 00:25.49 | goodshit | which one is rock solid if u run bsd 4.10 vs woody? |
| 00:25.53 | Arian | maher: yes :( |
| 00:25.57 | afaik | which bsd? |
| 00:26.04 | goodshit | freebsd |
| 00:26.07 | snappy2 | JoshH: yeah redhat 4.2 i think waas the first distro i tried |
| 00:26.07 | afaik | I run openBSD too, and yes |
| 00:26.08 | goodshit | what eelse... |
| 00:26.08 | JoshH | my server is running freebsd 4.10 and has been solid so far |
| 00:26.09 | snappy2 | my god, it was shit |
| 00:26.11 | maher | Arian: do whatever it was that produced the souncdore error |
| 00:26.24 | Arian | sound never worked |
| 00:26.25 | goodshit | josh. so u take freebsd 4.10 over woody anytime? |
| 00:26.28 | JoshH | yes |
| 00:26.32 | afaik | we actually run FreeBSD 5.2 on production servers, and it's been fine |
| 00:26.32 | goodshit | :) |
| 00:26.33 | Arian | there allways was that error |
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| 00:26.38 | JoshH | i use debian unstable on my desktops, and freebsd on my servers |
| 00:26.45 | goodshit | i see i see.. |
| 00:26.52 | goodshit | debian does look rock solid :) this woody |
| 00:27.01 | afaik | kde 2.2 ;D |
| 00:27.09 | snappy2 | i find linux more accustolmed to bleeding edge stuff |
| 00:27.34 | Arian | maher: i didnt do anything. sound didnt work yet |
| 00:27.46 | JoshH | i really dont prefer one or the other honestly, i wouldnt mind having say, slackware on my server. but for desktops, i think linux is a better choice, generally |
| 00:27.52 | afaik | I find SCO OpenServer to be more accusomted to using GPL apps for every useful feature |
| 00:28.18 | goodshit | diu. for workstation windows is stillt he BEST :) |
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| 00:28.32 | afaik | JoshH, No no no! OpenBSD on the Desktop! For computer illiterate users! |
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| 00:28.58 | JoshH | yes, they can pick it up so quickly since it has such wonderful documentation |
| 00:28.59 | snappy2 | id say osx man |
| 00:29.13 | js__ | how can i find out which boot loader i use? someone ones said it in here but i forgot the command :( something using dd and od |
| 00:29.14 | goodshit | diu.. 90% of the people uses windows :) |
| 00:29.31 | JoshH | debian, slackware, and freebsd are basically the only things i like, at all |
| 00:29.35 | dondelelcaro | and probably 90% of them use unices and don't even know it. |
| 00:29.49 | goodshit | diu.. |
| 00:29.53 | goodshit | i'm going to try gentoo |
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| 00:29.58 | goodshit | see if its rock solid :) |
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| 00:30.02 | maher | Arian: try modprobe nameofdriver |
| 00:30.02 | JoshH | its not |
| 00:30.17 | goodshit | joshH. how do u know?? |
| 00:30.21 | JoshH | ive tried it |
| 00:30.24 | afaik | goodshit, don't believe those with gentoo fever |
| 00:30.26 | goodshit | its community is growing BIGGER each day.. |
| 00:30.34 | JoshH | ya, people fleeing to it from mandrake |
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| 00:30.37 | js__ | it's just 'hip' |
| 00:30.38 | snappy2 | its all linux, its all stable |
| 00:30.43 | afaik | dpkg, gentoo fever? |
| 00:30.46 | snappy2 | just that debian has superior quality control |
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| 00:30.48 | dpkg | afaik: i haven't a clue |
| 00:30.50 | goodshit | hahahaahahah |
| 00:30.54 | afaik | dpkg, gentoo-fever? |
| 00:30.57 | goodshit | i'll try gentoo and see what sup.. |
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| 00:31.04 | dpkg | i don't know, afaik |
| 00:31.04 | goodshit | so far.. debian is rock solid.. |
| 00:31.13 | goodshit | mandrake suse.. i don't know :) |
| 00:31.22 | Arian | maher: modprobe i8x0 |
| 00:31.23 | Arian | FATAL: Module i8x0 not found. |
| 00:31.24 | afaik | goodshit, if you want a real solid distro, try Thiz Linux |
| 00:31.31 | snappy2 | gentoo is for just plain around with and having a good time |
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| 00:31.35 | Skyraven | hi..does anyone know how does debian sarge accomplish the network neighbourhood kind of network browsing ? I know that woody used a daemon called lisa |
| 00:31.42 | Skyraven | but I'm unable to find anything like that here |
| 00:31.42 | Skyraven | :) |
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| 00:31.48 | dondelelcaro | !apt-gentoo |
| 00:31.48 | dpkg | apt-gentoo is a way of simulating the waste of time that is gentoo on your Debian system. Experience the thrill of compiling your own apps from source without actually bothering to compile them! Download it from http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/apt-gentoo/ Announcement at: http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040331.230648.aa390e61.html |
| 00:31.49 | midoriiro | i tried gentoo... sure its customizability is nice but after the 2nd complete 250 package recompile (~1.5 days) i decided the hell with that... |
| 00:31.49 | JoshH | Arian: thats not the name of the module, its either i810_audio for OSS, or snd_intel8x0 for alsa |
| 00:31.56 | goodshit | snappy. yeah . i'm going to try out gentoo |
| 00:32.12 | Arian | josh thx |
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| 00:32.16 | JoshH | np |
| 00:32.20 | Arian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.20 | Arian | FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found. |
| 00:32.24 | afaik | http://www.thizlinux.com/ |
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| 00:32.30 | JoshH | is it in your kernel? |
| 00:32.41 | Arian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.42 | Arian | FATAL: Module i810_audio not found. |
| 00:32.44 | Arian | YES! |
| 00:32.46 | maher | Arian: modprobe snd-intel8x0 |
| 00:32.47 | Arian | thats my problem |
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| 00:32.55 | midoriiro | arian, did you build the modules? |
| 00:33.09 | JoshH | snd_intel8x0, its loaded right now on my box |
| 00:33.11 | Arian | build? |
| 00:33.13 | afaik | http://www.thizlinux.com/images/wallpapers/wallpaper-thizisdesktop.jpg |
| 00:33.17 | JoshH | if it says not found its not in your kernel |
| 00:33.24 | JoshH | as a module, that is |
| 00:33.27 | Arian | but i checked it :( |
| 00:33.37 | JoshH | did you say Y or M? |
| 00:33.43 | Arian | before i rebooted it was * now its M |
| 00:33.47 | JoshH | hmm |
| 00:34.18 | maher | Arian: look in /lib/modules/kernelversion |
| 00:34.20 | midoriiro | yeah i think it is "make modules_install" |
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| 00:34.41 | Arian | ah yeah midoriiro i did make modules modules_install bzImage :) |
| 00:34.48 | midoriiro | k |
| 00:34.51 | JoshH | Arian: grep CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 00:35.02 | midoriiro | i forgot to make the modules once and was driving me nuts~ |
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| 00:35.44 | Arian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.44 | Arian | CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m |
| 00:35.44 | Arian | # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set |
| 00:36.07 | DeadLine | hi how can i copy/paste text in dillo browser? |
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| 00:36.35 | Arian | joshh? |
| 00:36.40 | JoshH | hmm |
| 00:36.45 | JoshH | you did do make modules_install? |
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| 00:37.15 | Arian | now i did it |
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| 00:37.56 | JoshH | you must have done something wrong, but fuck if i know what |
| 00:38.06 | krunk- | what package has 'mail' in it |
| 00:38.06 | Arian | now it works |
| 00:38.11 | Arian | i made make modules-install |
| 00:38.15 | JoshH | ah ok |
| 00:38.20 | JoshH | ya, thats what you have to do after make modules |
| 00:38.23 | midoriiro | with a - and not a _? |
| 00:38.24 | Arian | and modprobe dont says anything at all |
| 00:38.28 | Tezkah | is unstable upgraded almost daily? |
| 00:38.34 | Tezkah | like, the packages inside |
| 00:38.37 | JoshH | Tezkah: yes |
| 00:38.45 | Tezkah | ah, neat |
| 00:38.50 | JoshH | so is testing, really |
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| 00:39.06 | Arian | joshh so whats next to make my sound work? |
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| 00:39.29 | JoshH | Arian: once the module is loaded, just set up alsa, google for how |
| 00:39.45 | DeadLine | hi , how can i copy text from a page in dillo browser? |
| 00:39.54 | JoshH | DeadLine: mouse wheel doesnt work in that? |
| 00:40.01 | DeadLine | no |
| 00:40.02 | Arian | JoshH it works!!! |
| 00:40.10 | JoshH | DeadLine: use firefox :) |
| 00:40.19 | DeadLine | ha |
| 00:40.23 | Arian | firefox rox :) |
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| 00:40.43 | DeadLine | how can i apt-get install mozilla-firefox? |
| 00:40.49 | JoshH | just like that |
| 00:40.55 | DeadLine | hmmmm |
| 00:41.49 | krunk- | setting up a mail server is proving to be a pita |
| 00:41.58 | Arian | joshh: query cause i dont want to get kicked :) |
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| 00:42.28 | Mookie | I put some values in ~/.Xdefault for XTerm instances, but they don't take effect until I run xrdb. What's appropriate to make them always take effect immidiately upon login? |
| 00:42.43 | Mookie | err immediately |
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| 00:43.16 | DeadLine | Mookie: mnake the same file called .Xresources |
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| 00:43.17 | krunk- | closest I got a working set-up was with qmail, perhaps I should try that one again |
| 00:43.29 | DeadLine | *make |
| 00:44.01 | DeadLine | JoshH: package could not be found |
| 00:44.05 | afaik | can you apt-get a apackge and make it NOT overwrite a package it replaces? |
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| 00:44.38 | Blissex | afaik: noty really. This is a big issue I think. But hey... |
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| 00:45.50 | Blissex | afaik: but you can probably 'dpkg' two packages with different versions. |
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| 00:48.42 | Mookie | DeadLine: Thank you so much. |
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| 00:51.27 | goodshit | . |
| 00:51.48 | DeadLine | Mookie: does it work? |
| 00:51.52 | Mookie | yes. |
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