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| 00:00.11 | abydos | thomas_adam: I forgot to put the experimental source above the other ones, but man apt_preferences helped me know that it follows the earliest apt-source's instance |
| 00:00.17 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- how do I install a new ftp server to run along side the standard Ftp server on a different port? It's for file serving |
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| 00:00.31 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: You want #warez |
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| 00:00.52 | SexyKen | Warez? |
| 00:01.03 | SexyKen | It's a local intranet server -- thanks though. |
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| 00:01.23 | phreak_ | thomas_adam: Had a look at my config yet? :] |
| 00:01.25 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: You have an FTP server already running? |
| 00:01.29 | SexyKen | Yes. |
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| 00:01.33 | thomas_adam | phreak_: Hold on.... |
| 00:01.40 | cafuego | SexyKen: if you use proftpd, you just add a vhost. |
| 00:01.40 | phreak_ | thomas_adam: I am, hehe.. just checking in :D |
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| 00:02.04 | SexyKen | Would the vHost be able to have it's own set of users/access rights? |
| 00:02.05 | Bazz | what would people recommend as the best way to do a remote mount over ssh? so far i've found shfs and sfs, is there anything better? |
| 00:02.09 | thomas_adam | phreak_: I am not sure what it could be, |
| 00:02.14 | cafuego | SexyKen: yep |
| 00:02.20 | SexyKen | Own files as well? |
| 00:02.29 | quitte_ | i need something that is boring enough to make me fall asleep |
| 00:02.43 | thomas_adam | quitte_: KDE. |
| 00:02.51 | cafuego | SexyKen: In my set-up, there are two vhosts. They both user a different mysql table for authentication and chroot all users to different locations. |
| 00:03.02 | abydos | And it would've helped if I hadn't missed the . and hit the / instead |
| 00:03.04 | quitte_ | thomas_adam already tried that |
| 00:03.17 | abydos | It made an index file 404. |
| 00:03.22 | CoffeeBreaks | tritium: sorry for the late reply (was on the phone). noI hadn't updated the gdm thingy today. I just did it alongside with gnome-session and it didn't help. Still having these strange problems. |
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| 00:03.28 | cafuego | SexyKen: Of course you can use alternatte passwd files or pgsql or ldap instead of mysql as well. |
| 00:03.28 | thomas_adam | quitte_: install xteddy -- he's cute and cuddly |
| 00:03.32 | Tolimar | quitte_: Search your /dev/random for the iso-images of a released sarge ;) |
| 00:04.02 | thomas_adam | CoffeeBreaks: what problems? |
| 00:04.07 | quitte_ | Tolimar if only i knew what to compare it against |
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| 00:04.17 | abydos | erm. |
| 00:04.20 | abydos | still not helping. |
| 00:04.25 | Tolimar | quitte_: Good point. |
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| 00:04.26 | SexyKen | Okay -- thanks cafeugo I will check it out. |
| 00:04.33 | thomas_adam | abydos: No one said it was going to be easy. |
| 00:04.55 | abydos | Should it be "Pin: release a=experimental" or Pin: release experimental" |
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| 00:05.19 | abydos | dpkg suggested a=..., common sense suggests just experimental |
| 00:05.20 | dpkg | abydos: I give up, what is it? |
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| 00:05.45 | thomas_adam | !iyhtays |
| 00:05.46 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 00:05.50 | abydos | hm |
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| 00:06.03 | CoffeeBreaks | thomas_adam: gnome is playing funny with me. Each time I do ALT+TAB (swicth app) or CTRL+ALT+ARROW (switch virtual screen), the widtget that appears doesn't automatically disappear. Worse, pressing enter discard it, along with anychoice I may have had (that's for ALT-TAB). |
| 00:06.11 | _rene_ | abydos: it is =a |
| 00:06.20 | _rene_ | abydos: as the man page iirc says |
| 00:06.31 | abydos | hm |
| 00:06.34 | thomas_adam | CoffeeBreaks: alt-tab is iffy in X11 right now. Have you recently "fixed" that? |
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| 00:07.37 | CoffeeBreaks | thomas_adam: not sure what you mean. Desktop was working ok these last days. Didn't notice something was broken after an update, but I didn't restart my session in the last two days. You then mean the pb is in X11? |
| 00:07.37 | abydos | aha |
| 00:07.44 | abydos | that would explain it. |
| 00:07.54 | abydos | hm |
| 00:08.00 | _rene_ | hmm. the §%§& manpage contains *both* types |
| 00:08.12 | thomas_adam | CoffeeBreaks: It probably doesn't apply. but... |
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| 00:08.19 | thomas_adam | dpkg, tell CoffeeBreaks about alt-tab |
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| 00:08.35 | abydos | It should've been "apt-get install -t experimental mozilla-firefox" |
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| 00:08.52 | cafuego | CoffeeBreaks: if you hit tab instead of enter, it will switch and disappear. |
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| 00:09.20 | SexyKen | how do I tell it to run on a diff prot? |
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| 00:09.44 | vladster | I just installed sarge and would like to know where I change the run levels for the bootup to set to level 3 |
| 00:09.59 | thomas_adam | vladster: It doesn't work like RH... |
| 00:10.10 | vladster | I figured that |
| 00:10.11 | quitte_ | vladster etc/inittab |
| 00:10.11 | cafuego | SexyKen: <VirtualHost 202.125.40.177> \n Port 12345 |
| 00:10.12 | thomas_adam | vladster: xdm is started in run-levels 2-5 |
| 00:10.20 | SexyKen | Gotcha. |
| 00:10.21 | thomas_adam | So whay change it then? There's no need. |
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| 00:10.41 | vladster | I have to set up the nvidia driver |
| 00:10.56 | thomas_adam | vladster: You couldn't have figured shit, if you don't know about /etc/inittab |
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| 00:11.11 | xoz | vladster: change id:2:initdefault: in /etc/inittab |
| 00:11.12 | directhex | vladster, so what? if you don't want x, then open a root terminal somewhow and /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 00:11.16 | cafuego | SexyKen: There will be examples in /usr/share/doc/proftpd/examples/ |
| 00:11.18 | vladster | be nice I am new at this |
| 00:11.20 | thomas_adam | vladster: That has nothing to do with changing run-levels. Just "invoke-rc.d xdm stop" as root. |
| 00:11.20 | directhex | where ?dm is your dm, e.g. gdm, xdm |
| 00:11.41 | thomas_adam | directhex: [gxkw]dm |
| 00:11.52 | directhex | thomas_adam, think there's an sdm too |
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| 00:11.58 | arpa- | why do people use fingerd? |
| 00:12.03 | thomas_adam | directhex: Not AFAIK. |
| 00:12.18 | directhex | !info sdm sarge |
| 00:12.21 | quitte_ | vladster i can't figure out any way how nvidia drivers are related to the runlevel |
| 00:12.23 | dpkg | sdm: (Secure Display Manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.3.99.cvs20040426-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 00:12.29 | thomas_adam | never heard of it. |
| 00:12.42 | directhex | and i've never used it |
| 00:12.47 | cafuego | thomas_adam: and a login.app |
| 00:13.06 | thomas_adam | pfft. |
| 00:13.12 | walnuck | how do i kill a telnet session from shell (using custom port) |
| 00:13.14 | walnuck | ? |
| 00:13.21 | cafuego | But i think login.app does run from inittab |
| 00:13.25 | thomas_adam | walnuck: dd if=/dev/hda of= :) |
| 00:13.35 | cafuego | walnuck: ^]c |
| 00:13.46 | T_VoiD | arpa-: there was a time when using internet didn't require firewall, you could (without evil intent) use any remote MTA, or finger somebody |
| 00:14.09 | cafuego | walnuck: ie: control-bracket; c |
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| 00:14.42 | arpa- | T_VoiD: that service was only meant to give out info about users? that's it ? so why do people still use it.. |
| 00:14.58 | vladster | x has to be shut down in order for the install program to work, NVidia drivers are binary only |
| 00:15.05 | thomas_adam | vladster: That has nothing to do with changing run-levels. Just "invoke-rc.d xdm stop" as root. |
| 00:15.11 | thomas_adam | vladster: Read ^^^^^^^ |
| 00:15.22 | T_VoiD | arpa-: autoinstalled ? |
| 00:15.27 | directhex | vladster, have you read a single thing that's been said? |
| 00:15.39 | arpa- | T_VoiD: is it? |
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| 00:15.45 | T_VoiD | arpa-: not on debian afaik |
| 00:15.47 | vladster | it has to un pack then I edit the efree86 file |
| 00:15.56 | cafuego | arpa-: fingerd allows you to play with .plan files. |
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| 00:16.01 | thomas_adam | vladster: You're rapidly approaching M. status. |
| 00:16.13 | vladster | lost me |
| 00:16.16 | nyktovus | i'm trying to install proftpd and it has 2 dependecies that fail to download.. any suggestions? |
| 00:16.17 | arpa- | cafuego: yeah, when fingerd has root premissions, ln -s .plan /etc/shadow will do wonders. |
| 00:16.22 | thomas_adam | (although I have been told not to call people Ms) |
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| 00:16.24 | T_VoiD | arpa-: well i always install nothing (but base) on a new box then start a few apt-get ... so I can't know |
| 00:16.35 | quitte_ | vladster theere are debian packages for nvidia drivers btw |
| 00:16.37 | arpa- | T_VoiD: yeah, i do the same. |
| 00:16.38 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: Yes, fix them. |
| 00:16.50 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: You don't even bother saying *which* deps, FFS. |
| 00:16.52 | vladster | from nevidia? |
| 00:16.59 | directhex | vladster, 1) don't assume nobody has ever installed the nvidia drivers except you. people know the procedure. 2) you've been given two preocedured for killing x |
| 00:17.03 | T_VoiD | arpa-: but fingerd as root too? that's a double mistake hehe |
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| 00:17.12 | thomas_adam | CoffeeBreaks: Don't PM me. |
| 00:17.14 | quitte_ | vladster no from the package maintainer+ |
| 00:17.14 | SexyKen | What's the right way to add a uer to a certain vhost if I'm using passwd files |
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| 00:17.39 | nyktovus | libncurses5_5.4-3_i386 |
| 00:17.49 | nyktovus | and ucf_1.06_all |
| 00:17.58 | arpa- | T_VoiD: no, ln -s .plan /etc/shadow as normal user will give out /etc/shadow on finger request |
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| 00:18.07 | nyktovus | i dont know a damn thing about installing things.. so i'm using synaptic.. |
| 00:18.09 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: And which flavour of debian are you running? |
| 00:18.11 | T_VoiD | arpa-: usually it runs as nobody |
| 00:18.16 | nyktovus | morphix |
| 00:18.18 | thomas_adam | ! |
| 00:18.21 | cafuego | arpa-: I think you'll find finger should default to 'nobody' and not root. |
| 00:18.24 | arpa- | T_VoiD: actually it usually runs as root. |
| 00:18.30 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: morphix != Debian. |
| 00:18.36 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: knoppix != Debian |
| 00:18.38 | T_VoiD | arpa-: it's usually run from inetd and you just put nobody there |
| 00:18.45 | nyktovus | ? |
| 00:18.46 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: Ask in #morphix |
| 00:18.55 | cafuego | arpa-: finger stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.fingerd |
| 00:18.55 | nyktovus | i did.. they sent me here |
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| 00:19.03 | cafuego | arpa-: That's the debian default inetd entry. |
| 00:19.04 | arpa- | oh :\ |
| 00:19.05 | Ox0F0-0FF | Hi everyone :) Question about 2.6... i heard it didn't need scsi emulation for burners... true ? Anything special to know before switching from 2.4 ? |
| 00:19.09 | arpa- | ok |
| 00:19.11 | T_VoiD | arpa-: btw the ln -s should be used the other way around ;) |
| 00:19.20 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: Well, you can tell them *I* sent you back, with the express permission to whomever told you to come here to "go fuck himself." |
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| 00:19.32 | arpa- | T_VoiD: woops :] |
| 00:19.36 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: run along now... |
| 00:19.36 | cafuego | arpa-: if it runs as root, someone who shouldn't be in charge of a unix system has instaleld it. (or they're running Lindows or soemthing) |
| 00:19.49 | directhex | Ox0F0-0FF, correct for almost all burning apps. gconbust iirc doesn't work with ide-cd. and you NEED 2.6 dependancies such as module-init-tools |
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| 00:20.22 | Ox0F0-0FF | directhex: where can i found some documentation about it ? |
| 00:20.29 | nyktovus | damn thats rude man |
| 00:20.38 | arpa- | dunno:\ |
| 00:20.47 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: No, it's right. They, of all people, should know morphix != Debian. |
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| 00:20.59 | T_VoiD | cafuego: heh, that would be the dream of antivirus companies. get a customer base hehe |
| 00:21.05 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: Unless you are telling me porkies, of course... |
| 00:21.08 | nyktovus | its all debian once its installed |
| 00:21.15 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: Oh, please. |
| 00:21.30 | helix | !dict porkies |
| 00:21.32 | dpkg | could not find definition for porkies |
| 00:21.36 | helix | hmm |
| 00:21.37 | thomas_adam | nyktovus: If hat's what you tell people, that is flawed. |
| 00:21.37 | cafuego | nyktovus: If it was debian, it would be called Debian. |
| 00:21.46 | colonel_panik | heh |
| 00:21.47 | nyktovus | they told me that |
| 00:21.48 | directhex | cafuego, lindows users being root is a myth. by default it requires you create a non-root account. other distros, e.g. ark, run all users as root. |
| 00:21.53 | cafuego | helix: porkies = porkie pies = lies. |
| 00:21.59 | thomas_adam | dpkg, porkies is <reply> A vernacular from London meaning "lies". |
| 00:22.00 | dpkg | thomas_adam: okay |
| 00:22.02 | helix | cafuego: wtf is a porkie pie? |
| 00:22.05 | colonel_panik | my uname says Red Hat 7.3, but really it's Debian Sid. |
| 00:22.08 | cafuego | helix: 2nd generation rhyming slang |
| 00:22.20 | helix | non-americans are so dumb |
| 00:22.39 | cafuego | helix: a porkie pie is pork in pastry |
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| 00:22.47 | directhex | helix, a small pie made from low-quality pastry, and a pix of about 15% pork 60% bread 25% gelatin |
| 00:22.48 | thomas_adam | porkie pie == lie. |
| 00:22.52 | thomas_adam | frog and toad == road. |
| 00:22.53 | directhex | *mix |
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| 00:22.58 | thomas_adam | ginger beer == queer, |
| 00:22.58 | helix | you people make no sense |
| 00:23.01 | thomas_adam | etc etc. |
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| 00:23.07 | directhex | cockey rhyming slang |
| 00:23.13 | thomas_adam | G'nor. |
| 00:23.14 | cafuego | helix: Hey, I'm not english and even *I* knew ;-) |
| 00:23.45 | helix | heh |
| 00:23.53 | helix | cafuego: we got our alioth project.. :) |
| 00:23.58 | malex | How do I find out what xkbmap I'm runing right now, so I could reload it with the setxkbmap? |
| 00:24.07 | cafuego | helix: Remind me... |
| 00:24.12 | helix | cafuego: debian women? |
| 00:24.16 | cafuego | aaaah yes |
| 00:24.22 | idnar | that rhyming slang stuff is completely bizarre |
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| 00:24.25 | moshe | hello |
| 00:24.31 | thomas_adam | dpkg, porkies is is also Taken from cockney rhyming-slang "porkie pie" which rhymes with "lie". |
| 00:24.31 | dpkg | ...but porkies is already something else... |
| 00:24.38 | thomas_adam | dpkg, porkies is also Taken from cockney rhyming-slang "porkie pie" which rhymes with "lie". |
| 00:24.38 | dpkg | thomas_adam: okay |
| 00:24.40 | moshe | is anyone here a former mandrake user? |
| 00:24.43 | cafuego | sorry, I was wondering how to create a deb for getting more women in debian and got to 'does not compute' |
| 00:24.44 | Justin | helix: don't you think a "debian women" project further alienates women? |
| 00:24.55 | helix | Justin: don't you think i've thought about this? :) |
| 00:24.59 | thomas_adam | Justin: Yeah, they hold it in the kitchen. |
| 00:25.01 | helix | Justin: if i thought it did, i wouldn't do it |
| 00:25.04 | colonel_panik | !apt-cache show debian-women-boobies |
| 00:25.06 | directhex | we need a debian men project |
| 00:25.30 | helix | directhex: yeah, you're underrepresented |
| 00:25.35 | moshe | anyone? |
| 00:25.41 | thomas_adam | !seen anyone |
| 00:25.42 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'anyone', thomas_adam |
| 00:25.43 | directhex | nah, i can see the motivations behind it, but Justin does have a point |
| 00:25.46 | quitte_ | Justin ask the linuxchicks |
| 00:25.51 | cafuego | Not to be confused with "Porkies" here, which is "La Porcchetta" - "the little pig" - an excellent and very cheap pizza chain. |
| 00:25.55 | thomas_adam | moshe: You never know when 'anyone' will re-appear. |
| 00:26.02 | cafuego | aka Porqui |
| 00:26.08 | colonel_panik | apt-cache: error: debian-women-boobies: no such package |
| 00:26.20 | thomas_adam | colonel_panik: Try looking under 'lamer'. |
| 00:26.30 | directhex | colonel_panik, i think you're after porn-get. |
| 00:26.37 | helix | or +b |
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| 00:26.46 | cafuego | helix: ha! *snort* |
| 00:26.51 | colonel_panik | porn-cache! |
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| 00:27.26 | helix | directhex, Justin: anyway, most of the people i've spoken to (women and men) think it's a good idea. |
| 00:27.35 | Justin | colonel_panik: it's ok, you couldn't satisfy the dependencies of debian-man-class for debian-woman-boobies anyway :-P |
| 00:27.47 | colonel_panik | heh |
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| 00:27.55 | cafuego | helix: it does leave the door open a little bit 9the project page) for filing bugs against women ;-) |
| 00:27.59 | colonel_panik | I'll just force-ignore-deps, baby. |
| 00:28.02 | directhex | helix, i'm not saying it's a bad idea, i'm saying i can see Justin's point |
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| 00:28.08 | pngwn | heh...they'll be putting up curtains in here and shit next ;) |
| 00:28.23 | thomas_adam | pngwn: Are you welsh? :) |
| 00:28.25 | T_VoiD | such a package should have a few Conflicts: entries... |
| 00:28.26 | helix | directhex: yeah, i can too to a certain extent, but i've thought a *LOT* about these things.. |
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| 00:28.45 | helix | so it's annoying when people i know assume i haven't thought about something so obvious.. |
| 00:28.50 | pngwn | thomas_adam, only half |
| 00:28.52 | SexyKen | do you know how to add users to the passwd file that I selected to use with proftpd? |
| 00:28.54 | directhex | helix, do tell, i'm intrigued |
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| 00:29.00 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: RTFD. |
| 00:29.17 | SexyKen | SMFD |
| 00:29.19 | cafuego | SexyKen: If all else fails, with 'mkpasswd' and vi |
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| 00:29.33 | AMD_ | any app out there that will extract the transceiver info from a Westell 2200 DSL Modem? |
| 00:29.41 | sussudio | AMD_: google |
| 00:29.44 | helix | directhex: well, i've been a member of linuxchix for a while, and one thing that helps is having visible women (akin to role models). there are only like 3 female DD's at all, and two of them are barely visible |
| 00:29.45 | Viddy | AMD_: screwdriver? |
| 00:29.58 | AMD_ | Viddy: ;) |
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| 00:30.12 | AMD_ | sussudio, tried, didn't see anything for linux.. |
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| 00:30.14 | helix | directhex: there's also a more generalized problem with women and linux (and further, women and *computers*), so one thing we seek to do is educate and collaborate in a lot of ways to get women involved |
| 00:30.26 | Ecnassianer | Female rolemodels = cool |
| 00:30.27 | sussudio | AMD_: so why do you come in here with the offtopicness? |
| 00:30.30 | colonel_panik | I think that's bullshit |
| 00:30.31 | thomas_adam | helix: And I believe it is a damn good idea. |
| 00:30.33 | helix | directhex: also, get more women speaking at conferences about debian |
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| 00:30.37 | mickeyks | mwilson: can you give me that URL about the contraditions of ideals re CSS? |
| 00:30.37 | helix | directhex: among other things |
| 00:30.46 | colonel_panik | give me a break |
| 00:30.51 | AMD_ | sussudio; to see if someone else might know who's already done it |
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| 00:31.02 | sussudio | AMD_: you already got your answer through google. |
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| 00:31.04 | thomas_adam | offtopicness. :) |
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| 00:31.16 | AMD_ | sussudio, nah, not EVERYTHING is on google ya know :) |
| 00:31.16 | cafuego | colonel_panik: Maybe you could inform the good people on #nowhere, they might care about your opinion. |
| 00:31.22 | sussudio | AMD_: yes it is |
| 00:31.27 | AMD_ | sussudio: nope |
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| 00:31.29 | helix | thomas_adam: what's offtopic? |
| 00:31.30 | colonel_panik | cafuego: erm.. whatever |
| 00:31.37 | thomas_adam | helix: ask sussudio. |
| 00:31.39 | directhex | helix, okay, fair enough. i just wondered. some pretty strong points there. |
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| 00:31.50 | thomas_adam | helix: ussudio> | AMD_: so why do you come in here with the offtopicness? |
| 00:31.53 | helix | ah |
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| 00:31.58 | sussudio | helix: someone coming in here, after coming up with nothing, on a non-debian related issue |
| 00:32.01 | bsims | hey mwilson I now have i386 packages for Moz 1.7 that use postscript |
| 00:32.08 | thomas_adam | helix: (you actually have to *follow* the conversation :)) |
| 00:32.14 | helix | thomas_adam: sorry ;) |
| 00:32.22 | AMD_ | sussudio, no, it's a linux related/debian related question: if there is an app out for linux to read the info. |
| 00:32.22 | thomas_adam | helix: No worries. |
| 00:32.30 | helix | sussudio: i know what offtopic means, i just thought thomas_adam was talking about *me* |
| 00:32.33 | sussudio | there's no point in doing polls in here if you already have your answer |
| 00:32.34 | emRick | when I run ogle, I get kicked out of KDE and go back to the login prompt. to find the problem, I redirected the output and after "libdvdread", I get "xscreensaver-command not found" and "Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)". |
| 00:32.39 | cafuego | helix: So you're going to run it as a support forum, or will you also specifically listt hinsg the female DDs have packaged/done? |
| 00:32.43 | thomas_adam | helix: (see penultimate comment to you) :) |
| 00:32.52 | sanyi | hi! i've got a problem. I've mounted a vfat file system, but my debian can't manage it! I use sarge. Please help me in private |
| 00:32.54 | helix | cafuego: yeah, that too - visibility is one of the most important things |
| 00:32.54 | thomas_adam | emRick: BTS |
| 00:33.00 | sussudio | sanyi: no |
| 00:33.01 | MacMoney | como troco senha de usuário |
| 00:33.02 | MacMoney | qual comando |
| 00:33.03 | MacMoney | ? |
| 00:33.08 | vladster | scout68 ever pop in here? |
| 00:33.10 | thomas_adam | !spanish |
| 00:33.11 | SexyKen | hmm |
| 00:33.11 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 00:33.12 | SexyKen | [R] 425 Unable to build data connection: Connection refused |
| 00:33.14 | cafuego | !portuguese |
| 00:33.14 | dpkg | methinks portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:33.15 | helix | cafuego: that will be on the website. we're also currently trying to collaborate with some people for a BSP. |
| 00:33.17 | thomas_adam | bah! |
| 00:33.30 | helix | cafuego: a lot of women that are interested in the project have never participated in one, so this is one way to contribute immediately. |
| 00:33.33 | cafuego | thomas_adam: just a guess |
| 00:33.40 | cafuego | helix: *nod* |
| 00:33.40 | SexyKen | Server runs on port 20 now, lets me login, but it doesn't let me list files |
| 00:33.41 | T_VoiD | sanyi: i would help 1) in public 2) would need more infos on "can't manage it" |
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| 00:34.00 | SexyKen | 4020 |
| 00:34.02 | SexyKen | i mean |
| 00:34.09 | cafuego | SexyKen: You need to tell conntrack about ftp packets that are associated with connections to your 3nd ftp port. |
| 00:34.09 | helix | cafuego: tinc.debian.net :P |
| 00:34.20 | thomas_adam | helix: At a rough estimate (debain aside) do you know just how many women do contribute to Linux? Are there, for example, any kernel developers that are women? |
| 00:34.25 | cafuego | SexyKen: ALSO, port 20 is RESERVED for ftp-data! |
| 00:34.33 | cafuego | helix: yes there is |
| 00:34.36 | SexyKen | I know --- that's why I changed it to 4020 |
| 00:34.43 | helix | thomas_adam: there are a few kernel hackers, yeah. i can think of three off the top of my head, but i can only spell one of their names ;) |
| 00:34.44 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: err... |
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| 00:34.54 | thomas_adam | helix: heh, |
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| 00:35.11 | helix | thomas_adam: but for example, in the linuxchix community on orkut, they did a "favorite distro" poll, and most of the women said debian |
| 00:35.17 | shekhjha | where's the log file for dhcpd of dhcp3 ? |
| 00:35.17 | SexyKen | Damn cafuego: I dont know nothin' about conntrack |
| 00:35.21 | thomas_adam | helix: \o/ |
| 00:35.22 | helix | thomas_adam: but you don't see them in here or on the mailing lists that often, so it's interesting.. |
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| 00:35.38 | thomas_adam | helix: Still too much of a male dominence? |
| 00:35.40 | helix | thomas_adam: but a lot of them have spoken up on the debian-women mailing list. |
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| 00:35.45 | jjpachec | hey everyone |
| 00:35.47 | thomas_adam | good. |
| 00:35.52 | cafuego | ptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 4020 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
| 00:35.53 | helix | thomas_adam: i suspect that may be it - that or the abrasive nature of the user community |
| 00:35.58 | cafuego | SexyKen: ^^ |
| 00:36.03 | jjpachec | could someone give me a command for finding out how many cpu's i have on my system? |
| 00:36.05 | helix | thomas_adam: which may or may not be related to testosterone levels.. :) |
| 00:36.11 | thomas_adam | helix: Presumably, the end goal is to integrate genders into debian as a whole? |
| 00:36.11 | cafuego | SexyKen: That *should* do the trick. |
| 00:36.12 | SexyKen | ptables not found |
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| 00:36.25 | sanyi | it found all the files and libs on that partition, but it manage them as files |
| 00:36.34 | hahaahaha | on a grub boot.. what would be the module command to load the usb module? |
| 00:36.35 | SexyKen | iptables |
| 00:36.42 | helix | thomas_adam: indeed, i don't intend to keep these women holed up in some sub-project - i want them to integrate themselves into the entire community |
| 00:36.43 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: usbcore |
| 00:36.47 | hennewou | Anyone has experience making an xterminal from a 486 50Mhz? |
| 00:36.55 | sanyi | so i can't enter the directories |
| 00:36.55 | thomas_adam | helix: :D |
| 00:37.05 | thomas_adam | hennewou: Yes. |
| 00:37.14 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: But you don't load it there, it goes in /etc/moduldes |
| 00:37.18 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: But you don't load it there, it goes in /etc/modules |
| 00:37.41 | hahaahaha | thomas_adam: so the command would be module /etc/modules/usbcore |
| 00:37.47 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: No. |
| 00:37.53 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: echo usbcore >> /etc/modules |
| 00:38.02 | hennewou | thomas_adam: I did the job, but it's rather slow |
| 00:38.09 | directhex | helix, one thing that always intrigued me, especially when i started on my computer science degree, was just how few women were doing the degree, or any degree in the electronics/computer science faculty. WHy are there are so few women who take on computing-type tasks? it seems rather silly from where i'm sat. early conditioning? patriarchal polar gender-biased education? or something more sinister? |
| 00:38.09 | thomas_adam | hahaahaha: (repeat for all modules you desire) |
| 00:38.12 | jjpachec | foureyes779: it does, i tried that too, but i just don't believe it |
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| 00:38.31 | helix | directhex: i have a very interesting document i can direct you to. hold on one second. |
| 00:38.32 | thomas_adam | directhex: They're all too busy washing their hair.... |
| 00:38.35 | hahaahaha | thanks |
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| 00:38.40 | jjpachec | foureyes779: cpu numbers start at 0 right? |
| 00:38.48 | SexyKen | I'm not sure how to add users properly though -- I just copied a previous auth file |
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| 00:39.08 | Caspan_ | when i mount a NTFS drive in my fstab can i just place NTFS as the drive format i tried using msdos but it shortens all teh file names |
| 00:39.21 | thomas_adam | Caspan_: -t ntfs |
| 00:39.30 | T_VoiD | directhex: they are all in psychology and biochemy , none left in comp science |
| 00:39.37 | T_VoiD | directhex: (yea that won't help haha) |
| 00:39.37 | quitte_ | Caspan -t vfat |
| 00:39.38 | helix | directhex: http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/ellens/Gender/pap/pap.html |
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| 00:40.06 | directhex | helix, thanks, i'll give that a read |
| 00:40.21 | T_VoiD | Caspan_: if it's ntfs you should use ntfs and not msdos nor vfat |
| 00:40.30 | thomas_adam | Yes, that is a good link. I've read it before. |
| 00:40.38 | T_VoiD | Caspan_: now i'm surprised it worked with msdos so must be vfat and not ntfs... |
| 00:40.42 | helix | directhex: np |
| 00:40.44 | quitte_ | T_Void it obviously isn't as msdos worked |
| 00:41.01 | helix | thomas_adam: yeah, when i read it i was surprised.. mostly because so much of it was true and i'd never even noticed |
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| 00:41.03 | T_VoiD | quitte_: yea you were too quick heh |
| 00:41.04 | Caspan_ | maybe its fat32 |
| 00:41.08 | thomas_adam | helix: :) |
| 00:41.11 | Caspan_ | i cant rember though it was NTFS |
| 00:41.16 | Caspan_ | 1 |
| 00:41.20 | thomas_adam | Caspan_: remount it then. |
| 00:41.24 | manini | what's PNET? |
| 00:41.29 | mickeyks | is there a unit of measure for viscosity? |
| 00:41.39 | T_VoiD | Caspan_: vfat = supports long name. you could have vfat/fat16 too (dunno if msdos/fat32 exists) :p |
| 00:41.45 | Caspan_ | its what elephants love |
| 00:41.51 | thomas_adam | Yes, mickeyks, but you have me on ignore, so you won't know. |
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| 00:42.50 | SexyKen | GRRR |
| 00:43.02 | SexyKen | I will never be able to add users |
| 00:43.06 | thomas_adam | Someone tell mickeyks it's measured in volume by cubic centimetres. |
| 00:43.13 | quitte_ | T_Void maybe freedos supports it |
| 00:43.23 | helix | <thomas_adam> Someone tell mickeyks it's measured in volume by cubic centimetres. |
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| 00:43.34 | Guerin | mickeyks: thomas_adam knows, but you have him on ignore, so you don't care |
| 00:43.50 | helix | thomas_adam: who do you write for again? LG? |
| 00:43.54 | Guerin | mickeyks: but I can tell you, based on what he said... |
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| 00:44.02 | thomas_adam | helix: It's been known. :) |
| 00:44.08 | mickeyks | i just want to know if there's a special word for it |
| 00:44.10 | helix | thomas_adam: ah, ok |
| 00:44.29 | Guerin | mickeyks: viscosity IS a special word |
| 00:44.33 | thomas_adam | helix: I still do, I edit it each month now though. Good excuse for scripting in Ruby. :) |
| 00:44.42 | mickeyks | Guerin: yeah, but it's not a unit |
| 00:44.51 | thomas_adam | density |
| 00:44.52 | mickeyks | like, weight can be measured in pounds |
| 00:44.56 | thomas_adam | is the word you're after, |
| 00:45.02 | mickeyks | length can be measured in meters |
| 00:45.03 | thomas_adam | bah, why am I bothering? |
| 00:45.13 | mickeyks | viscosity can be measured in ____ |
| 00:45.20 | helix | thomas_adam: your overwhelming desire to help people? |
| 00:45.28 | thomas_adam | helix: not when he can't see me. :) |
| 00:45.36 | T_VoiD | from google 1st hit, appears to be in ... bah try google :p |
| 00:45.37 | Guerin | mickeyks: volume by cubic centimetres, apparently |
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| 00:45.59 | thomas_adam | But it is how you derive it that is tricky... |
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| 00:46.08 | emRick | thomas_adam: when I mentioned an ogle crash, you said "BTS" which I have just checked but I found nothing. are you aware of a specific ogle issue lodged in BTS or are you suggesting that I should generate a bug report? |
| 00:46.11 | Guerin | though it's not simple, you should google on how to measure viscosity |
| 00:46.16 | thomas_adam | It's been a while since I last did chemistry, i could be talking out my arse, of course... |
| 00:46.21 | mickeyks | if viscosity is measured in volume, then i have misunderstood what it is |
| 00:46.49 | Guerin | mickeyks: volume and time |
| 00:47.04 | thomas_adam | emRick: Tricky. What do you have in /var/log/messages, and /var/log/XFree86.0.log after the crash ? |
| 00:47.08 | mickeyks | time? |
| 00:47.14 | quitte_ | viscosity doesn'T change the volume |
| 00:47.15 | mickeyks | hrm |
| 00:47.42 | mickeyks | i thought i remembered physics equations in which there was a variable for viscosity |
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| 00:47.49 | mickeyks | and you would plug a number into it |
| 00:47.49 | thomas_adam | emRick: add to that ~/.xsession-errors too |
| 00:48.02 | Guerin | mickeyks: yeah. Get a known quantity of substance a and put it in a vessel with a certain size hole, and timme how long it takes to drain |
| 00:48.13 | phreak_ | thomas_adam: just send me a email if you find out, okay? I'm going to sleep. Speaks. :) |
| 00:48.31 | Fabs | Are there any packages for a GUI to manage RAS dial-up? Like the one for WinGate, need to set up a dial-up server that plebs can use |
| 00:48.36 | quitte_ | so it's volume difference and time? |
| 00:48.55 | Guerin | mickeyks: there are other ways, but that seems to be the fundamental principle |
| 00:49.14 | Guerin | and this is all googleable, you realise |
| 00:49.31 | malex | Where are the mysql includes? |
| 00:49.41 | mickeyks | hm |
| 00:49.50 | mickeyks | everything is googleable |
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| 00:50.22 | Guerin | mickeyks: centipoise (cP) |
| 00:50.26 | bucky | malex, in mysql-dev ? |
| 00:50.26 | malex | mickeyks: I guess so, but the only -dev lib is the libmysqlclient-dev. I was trying to avoid fetching stuff not from the debian archives. |
| 00:50.33 | Guerin | mickeyks: though I NFI how it's derived |
| 00:50.40 | manini | how do I access my NTFS partitions on my other hard disk? |
| 00:50.51 | malex | bucky: I can't find mysql-dev. apt-cache search doesn't find it. |
| 00:50.54 | Guerin | manini: mount them, naturally |
| 00:51.01 | manini | mmmm |
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| 00:51.04 | manini | good point :) |
| 00:51.14 | Guerin | malex: apt-cache search mysql |grep dev |
| 00:51.18 | directhex | manini, http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD03OTMmdXJsX3BhZ2U9Nw== |
| 00:51.19 | cafuego | Yay, the bits for my temporary Athlon64 toy are in! |
| 00:51.38 | directhex | temporary? |
| 00:51.39 | mickeyks | Guerin: thanks, sounds good |
| 00:51.44 | bucky | malex, libmysqlclient-dev ? |
| 00:51.45 | manini | thanks |
| 00:51.48 | debian | cafuego: Athlon64, a toy? *grumble* |
| 00:51.52 | mickeyks | so really the unit is poise |
| 00:52.07 | Fabs | Are there any packages for a GUI to manage RAS dial-up? Like the one for WinGate, need to set up a dial-up server that plebs can use |
| 00:52.20 | SexyKen | cafuego -- please help me add a user to proftpd auth file |
| 00:52.29 | T_VoiD | mickeyks: try http://www.chemie.de/tools/units.php3?language=e , can help too |
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| 00:52.48 | malex | bucky: That's the one I listed already. "E: Package libmysqlclient-dev has no installation candidate" is what the person I'm helping gets. |
| 00:52.55 | cafuego | directhex: building it for someone else, I geta day's worth of testing on it |
| 00:52.56 | thomas_adam | apt-cache seach -- mysql -dev |
| 00:53.09 | cafuego | debian: Did I mention 2GB ram? ;-) |
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| 00:53.18 | quitte_ | wtf are plebs? |
| 00:53.27 | directhex | !dict pleb |
| 00:53.29 | dpkg | Dictionary 'pleb' one of the common people [syn: {plebeian}] |
| 00:53.30 | cafuego | quitte_: commoners |
| 00:53.39 | Fabs | lol, "users" |
| 00:53.51 | bucky | mickeyks, a Marsh Funnel Viscometer is what we used on drilling rigs http://www.deanbennett.com/drilling-mud-testing-equipment.htm |
| 00:54.02 | mickeyks | T_VoiD: that page makes it sound like the unit is "bole" |
| 00:54.08 | quitte_ | in this case: people dialing in? why would they care how the server was set up? |
| 00:54.37 | Fabs | no, as in a pleb has to use the server, see who's dialed in, maybe kick ppl off, that kind of thing |
| 00:54.43 | T_VoiD | mickeyks: anyways poise is an old unit based on CGS and not mksa. it's obsolete |
| 00:55.02 | mickeyks | T_VoiD: so now it's bole? |
| 00:55.27 | T_VoiD | mickeyks: actually i'm not sure about that. maybe bole is a translation of poise hehe |
| 00:55.38 | thomas_adam | mickeyks: I have the equation in my big book, you ignorant fuck. |
| 00:55.46 | T_VoiD | mickeyks: because if you use the Definition conversion you get a ration from mksa stuff... |
| 00:55.51 | T_VoiD | ratio |
| 00:56.06 | quitte_ | Fabs i' |
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| 00:56.45 | quitte_ | Fabs i'd say you're best choice is to make some cgi scripts. |
| 00:57.05 | debian | cafuego: *cry* |
| 00:57.15 | Fabs | so there's not a package with some sort of gui? |
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| 00:57.31 | Fabs | guess we'll be using wingate then... :( oh how i hate wingate |
| 00:57.58 | bucky | Fabs, there's one on sourceforge |
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| 00:58.15 | quitte_ | Fabs i don't know, but if there ws any i'd expect it to do nothing more but setup the possibility to dial in. it's a wild guess,though |
| 00:58.37 | Fabs | mm well i need like a monitoring prog etc... |
| 00:59.12 | bucky | Fabs, let me find it |
| 00:59.33 | Fabs | k, i'm looking there as well bucky, thanks |
| 00:59.34 | SexyKen | HOw does one make an md5 passwd and then view it? |
| 00:59.58 | Fabs | webmin doesn't have a module to manage RAS does it...? |
| 01:00.15 | thomas_adam | Fabs: No, thank god. |
| 01:00.25 | Fabs | lol, why thank god? |
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| 01:00.29 | thomas_adam | Webmin allows the clueless to configure systems. This is not food. |
| 01:00.33 | thomas_adam | s/food/good/ |
| 01:00.45 | T_VoiD | mickeyks: officially it's Pa . s (pascal . second) . somewhere in english i read "The SI recognizes no named unit for dynamic viscosity" (elsewhere I read Poisefeuille was proposed but not accepted as the S.I name for Pa . s) |
| 01:01.07 | thomas_adam | All webmin does is provide a facet to what is essentially much easier using vi with the appropriate configuration file. |
| 01:01.30 | thomas_adam | Plus, doing it that way is much more beneficial. |
| 01:01.33 | T_VoiD | oh bah left |
| 01:01.53 | Fabs | yes true but webmin is easier to manage quite often.. user mailboxes come to mind |
| 01:02.35 | thomas_adam | Fabs: No, you should learn how to do it properly. Webmin is limited only in that it cannot possible enumerate all the options you would otherwise find in the underlying config file. |
| 01:03.14 | T_VoiD | and I can imagine the fatal "restart http server with new config?" option *grins* |
| 01:03.17 | SexyKen | Why the fuck can't I get this bullshit to work. |
| 01:03.19 | jack|h | So are the Gnome unstable packages broken righ tnow? |
| 01:03.32 | Fabs | you can clean up user mailboxes or delete specific messages through a config file now? well i'll be a monkeys... :P |
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| 01:04.24 | debian | SexyKen: because you're just being too....sexy? |
| 01:04.36 | thomas_adam | Fabs: There's loads of options 'mail-expire', 'mboxgrep', etc.... |
| 01:04.57 | SexyKen | It's more difficult to add users than it is to compile, configure, install the proftpd daemon |
| 01:05.00 | SexyKen | That's lame. |
| 01:05.05 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: man adduser |
| 01:05.13 | SexyKen | That wont add to the virtual host |
| 01:05.24 | T_VoiD | SexyKen: i suppose you could copy a passwd/shadow entry there if you were root? |
| 01:05.25 | thomas_adam | SexyKen: You're *still* on about this? RTFD. |
| 01:05.55 | Fabs | thomas_adam: because that's much simpler than just clicking a link to the mbox you want and seeing straight off what messages there are so you can delete them ^o) |
| 01:06.02 | SexyKen | ls |
| 01:06.11 | thomas_adam | Fabs: YMMV. |
| 01:06.50 | Fabs | mm |
| 01:07.02 | tritium | my rescue disk is my friend today :) |
| 01:07.19 | directhex | how are obscure acronyms any worse than sms-on-irc abbreviations? |
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| 01:08.15 | thomas_adam | directhex: JATFTA, and move on. |
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| 01:08.55 | emRick | thomas_adam: I'm not finding much info. Comparing XFree86.0.log with XFree86.0.log.old, I only see the server crash report ("This should not happen!"). /var/log/messages and ~/.xsession-errors don't seem to have anything relevant. I guess I'll just make a bug report and give more info as instructed. |
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| 01:09.33 | thomas_adam | emRick: With all due respect, what you might not consider relevant might well be so. What have you *actual;y* got? |
| 01:10.08 | abydos | there we go |
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| 01:10.28 | emRick | thomas_adam: you want me to use #flood? |
| 01:10.47 | thomas_adam | emRick: Aye. |
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| 01:13.36 | thomas_adam | emRick: I note from your logs you're using knoppix. |
| 01:13.42 | nekromanc3r | seems very quiet |
| 01:13.44 | thomas_adam | emRick: I'm about to explode in anger.... |
| 01:13.59 | colonel_panik | hahaha |
| 01:14.06 | nekromanc3r | ok, maybe things will pick up |
| 01:14.06 | thomas_adam | emRick> | Jul 7 19:53:35 box gconfd (knoppix-10033): Exiting |
| 01:14.06 | colonel_panik | my head asplode! |
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| 01:14.58 | nekromanc3r | does debian support the amd 64? |
| 01:15.32 | thomas_adam | nekromanc3r: aoilth project. |
| 01:15.34 | emRick | thomas_adam: I did a harddrive install of knoppix 18 months ago. then, last week I did "apt-get upgrade". |
| 01:16.01 | nekromanc3r | thomas_adam, thx |
| 01:16.36 | gaasfet | I just did a net-install and got 800x screen rez :( |
| 01:16.52 | thomas_adam | "Knoppix is 'unofficial' Debian, IMHO" <-- twat |
| 01:16.53 | emRick | tell me if I am wrong in this attitude. after an apt-get upgrade, any distros based on Debian are effective Debian afterwards. |
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| 01:17.07 | The_Vulture | emRick: yer wrong |
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| 01:17.19 | mirak | is there good ATI RADEON derivers on debian ? ATI.com only provides rpms |
| 01:17.19 | thomas_adam | Debian-user really *fucks* me off. |
| 01:17.23 | Rez | emRick: you're wrong. may if you did a --reinstall |
| 01:17.28 | gaasfet | emRick, try #kanotix |
| 01:17.28 | mirak | drivers |
| 01:17.40 | colonel_panik | hahahahaha |
| 01:17.42 | xam | emRick: knoppix might have some extra packages installed that are not part of an 'offician' debian |
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