| 00:00.38 | sdb1 | nort0n, hmm, try setting the volume with aumix... |
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| 00:01.23 | Hackel | simonrvn, where? Not here... http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=thunderbird&searchon=all&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all |
| 00:01.32 | nort0n | sdb1: works |
| 00:01.33 | sdb1 | nort0n, does altering the slider actually work at all? I.e. is it actually affecting the sound being played? |
| 00:01.50 | yonkel | is there a 802.11g pcmcia card with linux drivers? |
| 00:01.59 | jackse | hi, Is 'initrd' really needed for the kernel? If I don't put --initrd when making a kernel-image I get an error message on bootup about 'root='. |
| 00:02.14 | nort0n | sdb1: nope, the volume can be set with alsamixer, aumix, xmms. But the gnome volume stays at zero |
| 00:02.21 | simonrvn | no, my bad i thought it was something else. i hand installed it |
| 00:02.48 | joe666 | jackse, you have to tell lilo that your kernel does not have initrd |
| 00:02.48 | simonrvn | sorry |
| 00:02.53 | sdb1 | nort0n, right, so when you set the volume with aumix or any of the others, you can hear audio, and you can control the level of that audio? |
| 00:02.57 | jackse | joe666: example please |
| 00:03.00 | Blissex | jackse: 'initrd' is not needed if you build the right drivers in the kernel and not as modules. But it is very needed for all Debian standard kernels. |
| 00:03.11 | joe666 | jackse, man lilo, read about using an initrdimage |
| 00:03.24 | Hackel | Let's not encourage lilo use here. :) |
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| 00:03.29 | joe666 | jackse, most likely you need to be sure there is no initrd line in your config entries |
| 00:03.33 | nort0n | sdb1: yes |
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| 00:04.01 | nort0n | that is correct |
| 00:04.14 | sdb1 | nort0n, but when you alter it with the mixer-applet... does the volume change when you're moving the slider up and down, only to get reset to 0 when you let go? |
| 00:04.14 | Crimson | Can anyone recomend a simple apt-gettable application for setting the root image? |
| 00:04.25 | njvic | how do I tell my cpu to run at a slower speed? |
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| 00:04.37 | Blissex | Crimson: 'xsetbg' for example |
| 00:04.39 | guestish | hey |
| 00:04.40 | joe666 | njvic, try cpufreqd |
| 00:04.42 | VoltageX | hi all |
| 00:04.46 | Bill | how come I can only have one of my nics working on my dual nic server (and they both have their own IPs) but only only one works at a time? if I ifup one of them the other dies. What am I doing wrong? |
| 00:04.47 | njvic | thanks |
| 00:04.49 | jackse | thx y'all |
| 00:04.52 | joe666 | njvic, only if your cpu does stepping |
| 00:04.58 | Blissex | njvic: that depends on whether your CPU can run at a lower speed. |
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| 00:05.25 | Hackel | Bill, because your nics suck, apparently. |
| 00:05.31 | nort0n | sdb1: no, the sound is not affected by moving the slider |
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| 00:05.41 | VoltageX | compiling 2.6.6 now. I'm hoping I doon't tge the cannot mount rooot fs error again |
| 00:05.44 | guestish | sick |
| 00:05.48 | Bill | Hackel should I have auto eth0 and auto eth1 ? or does it need to be auto eth0,1? |
| 00:05.51 | sdb1 | nort0n, this is quite strange. since unless fuser -v /dev/mixer reports that mixer-applet has opened the device, it shouldn't be able to alter the volume at all. |
| 00:05.52 | Blissex | njvic: by "can" I mean whether it is software controllable. If it is not, you can tweak the motherboard via BIOS or jumpers to use a lower bus frequency or a lower multiplier. |
| 00:05.55 | guestish | i can install kde with libcupsys2-gnutls10 =D |
| 00:06.01 | sdb1 | nort0n, ahh. right. okay. phew! |
| 00:06.02 | Hackel | Bill, auto eth0 eth1 |
| 00:06.06 | guestish | its fixed! |
| 00:06.07 | directhex | !topicsmite guestish |
| 00:06.08 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon guestish. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 00:06.10 | Bill | Hackel and that will fix it? |
| 00:06.16 | joe666 | Bill, be sure not to set a gateway for both nics in network/interfaces |
| 00:06.17 | Hackel | Bill, I have no idea. |
| 00:06.19 | VoltageX | I installed kde from testing fine. |
| 00:06.22 | guestish | directhex: i said it was fixed you moron |
| 00:06.31 | Bill | joe666 OHHH THANKS yeah |
| 00:06.31 | njvic | i have an via nehemiah chip, which supports two speeds, 100% and 50% |
| 00:06.36 | testing_ | kde is working fine for me in testing |
| 00:06.46 | nort0n | sdb1: hmm. ok i see |
| 00:06.50 | Bill | joe666 Is that the only thing I cant have 2 of? |
| 00:06.51 | testing_ | but in unstable, it has a conflict with cupsys |
| 00:06.54 | xtapo | Hey all. Sound was working, now it's not. Checking alsamixer shows PCM is down and off. How do I turn it back on? |
| 00:06.55 | sdb1 | nort0n, run aumix and do fuser -v /dev/mixer |
| 00:06.55 | FieldySnuts | !medal testing_ |
| 00:07.05 | joe666 | Bill, most likely yes |
| 00:07.07 | Blissex | njvic: then you need to find a VIA specific utility. Each multifreq CPU does it differently. |
| 00:07.09 | guestish | !metal directhex |
| 00:07.11 | Bill | joe666 not broadcast? |
| 00:07.13 | FieldySnuts | medal |
| 00:07.14 | guestish | !medal directhex |
| 00:07.16 | guestish | =D |
| 00:07.21 | njvic | Blissex, ok |
| 00:07.22 | FieldySnuts | grr theres more than just jerk |
| 00:07.24 | testing_ | sdb1, being a jerk? |
| 00:07.25 | FieldySnuts | damn randomization |
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| 00:07.27 | guestish | !dbugs 252368 |
| 00:07.30 | dpkg | DONE:#252368:[kdelibs4] libcupsys2-gnutls10 should have Provides: libcupsys2 (sid) |
| 00:07.48 | Blissex | njvic: but IIRC support may be in the 2.6.x kernels. If so probably you just need to enable APIC etc. |
| 00:07.48 | joe666 | Bill, that is diferent for each network, also be aware that setting two ip's in same network on same computer is kinda tricky |
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| 00:08.11 | joe666 | Bill, I guess both nic's are pointing diferent networks |
| 00:08.17 | nort0n | sdb1: that shows that my user is using the device |
| 00:08.23 | Blissex | njvic: IIRC the home page of Alan Cox at RedHat has quite a bit of VIA patches/extensions, he has been working on VIA stuff for a while. |
| 00:08.23 | FlimFlamMan | njvic, what are you using the nehemiah for - media application? |
| 00:08.24 | njvic | Blissex, I have done that.. nevermind.. i'll investigate more tomorrow.. I need sleep now |
| 00:08.25 | Bill | joe666 dang that didnt work. .. .can I post in flood what I have? |
| 00:08.33 | joe666 | sure |
| 00:08.35 | njvic | cool |
| 00:08.54 | nort0n | sdb1: but now when alsamixer is running. Does oss use /dev/mixer , and alsa something other? |
| 00:08.54 | angeles | Ign http://jopa.studentenweb.org ./ Release |
| 00:09.09 | angeles | err ack sorry |
| 00:09.23 | joe666 | Bill, yes |
| 00:09.34 | mkorman | can someone tell me if there's a way to list all installed packages which are in contrib? |
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| 00:09.59 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki | READ THE BTS (/msg dpkg bts) | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg gnome settings daemon | BORKED: anything that depends on libcurl #252442; | /msg dpkg gnome2.6 | Debian is not Knoppix. |
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| 00:10.02 | xtapo | How do I turn PCM on? What is it? |
| 00:10.02 | njvic | FlimFlamMan, actually it will just sit (quietly) in the corner as a firewall as it has 2 nics and run basic web services etc.. atm it's a bit noisier than i'd like.. |
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| 00:10.05 | guestish | cool |
| 00:10.05 | guestish | thx |
| 00:10.17 | dondelelcaro | diff: libcupsys2-gnutls10 has been fixed [#242368] |
| 00:10.18 | sdb1 | nort0n, yeah, I believe so. |
| 00:10.19 | Blissex | mkorman: best way is to install 'aptitude'. |
| 00:10.21 | VoltageX | brb |
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| 00:10.38 | alex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.43 | angeles | xtapo: the equivelant of WaveOut |
| 00:10.49 | joe666 | Bill, if both nicks have Ip's on same network then things are more difficult to setup, you should google on it as I can't recall what should be done to achieve that |
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| 00:11.02 | Bill | crap k thanks joe666 |
| 00:11.05 | guestish | alex: try another repository |
| 00:11.09 | mkorman | Blissex: i'll check it out. thanks |
| 00:11.12 | Blissex | mkorman: 'aptitude' can both list by installation status and then section, or you can use filtering expressions. |
| 00:11.20 | joe666 | Bill, I see you have both nic's with same broadcast, etc, so you hace to look up on google |
| 00:11.21 | xtapo | angeles: It was enabled and sound was working. Now it's off. How do I turn it on? |
| 00:11.22 | alex | guestish: do you thing it is down ? |
| 00:11.25 | jbr | mkorman: /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README |
| 00:11.30 | sdb1 | nort0n, there are two real possibilities - mixer-applet is using the wrong device... or mixer-applet is failing to open the device or screwing up somewhere and closing it... |
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| 00:11.37 | Blissex | mkorman: 'aptitude' is a flexible APT 'curses' frontend, like 'dselect'. |
| 00:11.40 | angeles | xtapo: apt-get install aumix; aumix |
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| 00:11.53 | guestish | alex: could be, there are about 200 repositories though, so just find another one |
| 00:12.09 | guestish | alex: its not that big of a deal |
| 00:12.33 | guestish | i use aptitude the same way i use apt |
| 00:12.33 | guestish | :) |
| 00:12.55 | guestish | only problem with aptitude is it doesnt have super cow powers =\ |
| 00:13.03 | xtapo | angeles: thank you! |
| 00:13.19 | sdb1 | nort0n, try with mixer-applet running doing "fuser -v /dev/mixer*" maybe |
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| 00:13.44 | nort0n | sdb1: nope |
| 00:14.25 | yonkel | GOOD SHABBOS! |
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| 00:14.52 | Psyke | joe666 sorry u still around? it's detected in dmesg and lsusb but just doesn't work in x |
| 00:15.05 | alex | guestish: well it said the same about the fr one, I am guessing this has something with the fact that I change my dnsserver right before |
| 00:15.06 | sdb1 | damn it, I have no idea how to start an applet from the command line now :( |
| 00:15.15 | sdb1 | (used to be easy) |
| 00:15.23 | guestish | alex: could be it, try identifying it by ip |
| 00:15.32 | joe666 | Psyke, have you configred properly xserver-xfree86 ?, try with: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:15.38 | alex | guestish: how do I do this ? |
| 00:15.41 | sdb1 | nort0n, have you looked in your ~/.xsession-errors for hints? |
| 00:15.46 | nort0n | sdb1: oh. Im trying with that myself, with no success |
| 00:16.02 | joe666 | Psyke, see if your mouse is listed there or choose IMPS2, usually that works |
| 00:16.03 | Psyke | joe666 nope haven't configured it at all.... just plugged the mouse in... is it easier to just edit the file? or should i add that? |
| 00:16.05 | guestish | alex: 195.224.53.99 |
| 00:16.05 | sdb1 | I was thinking you might be able to run strace on it, but fat chance |
| 00:16.10 | Psyke | joe666 k |
| 00:16.16 | joe666 | Psyke, check also if you have hotplug installed, that helps a lot |
| 00:16.18 | nort0n | sdb1: nothing there :/ |
| 00:16.26 | guestish | alex: 195.224.53.39 |
| 00:16.30 | guestish | alex: sorry, thats the right one |
| 00:16.53 | guestish | alex: if your dns nameserver is all weird i dont think you can do it |
| 00:17.02 | joe666 | Psyke, after you issue the dpkg-reconfigure, you should call dexconf |
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| 00:17.17 | guestish | alex: but i can ;) |
| 00:17.39 | Crimson | xsetbg seems to break on transparent apps (gdesklets for one) |
| 00:17.40 | sdb1 | nort0n, hmmm.... if you've changed the group ownership of /dev/mixer, I'm not sure what the rules are but you might need to restart gnome... |
| 00:17.45 | Crimson | yet kde setting the root did not |
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| 00:18.23 | sdb1 | nort0n, e.g. if you added yourself to the audio group that doesn't take effect immediately, but it might apply to your xterms if they create a new login shell, I'm not sure though. |
| 00:18.25 | alex | ahhhhhhh I now |
| 00:18.32 | guestish | alex: hmm? |
| 00:18.47 | Oskilian | is there a rm cobol 85 compiler available for linux? |
| 00:19.12 | guestish | Oskilian: check freshmeat.net |
| 00:19.19 | guestish | Oskilian: and google, and apt-cache search |
| 00:19.24 | sdb1 | cobol? :-| |
| 00:19.25 | Blissex | Oskilian: probably, but almost surely proprietary. Also, most UnixWare/SYSV packages for x86 work on Linux thanks to compatibility mode. |
| 00:19.27 | alex | before installing resolvconf it says to do ifdown and if up again to take the changes into consideration, which I did, but it also said to initialise the dns, which I was not sure to know how to do, so I did not |
| 00:19.29 | hiway | I've got me a balky cdrom drive here -- I can mount data cds just fine, but trying to play audio cds gets me nothing but a bunch of this: |
| 00:19.30 | hiway | hdc: packet command error: error=0x50 |
| 00:19.36 | nort0n | sdb1: but the group is set to audio. and my user is in that group already |
| 00:19.53 | hiway | is this something anyone else has experienced? (or contraversely is there something obvious I'm missing?) |
| 00:19.56 | sdb1 | nort0n, okay, ruled that one out. |
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| 00:20.00 | Psyke | joe666 dexconf? |
| 00:20.00 | alex | guestish: have you got an idea what this means ? initialising the dns ? |
| 00:20.08 | WebWiz | anybody here use pgp? that can test an encrypted message to me? |
| 00:20.09 | Blissex | hiway: how are you trying to plya it? Is the CD ``copy protect''? |
| 00:20.25 | guestish | alex: nope, i've never had to deal with it, but im sure someone else has |
| 00:20.25 | joe666 | Psyke, yes, is a command, it makes the change to the XF86Config file |
| 00:20.31 | Psyke | k |
| 00:20.44 | hiway | It does the same regardless of what I use; I've tried playing it in both grip and gnome-cd |
| 00:20.51 | guestish | alex: there's always rebooting, but thats the klunky way |
| 00:20.53 | Oskilian | Blissex: Well, I own one of those compiled for SCO/UNIX, could that work? |
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| 00:21.21 | hiway | grip actually crashes when I try to launch, unless I set the device name to something bogus. |
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| 00:21.25 | alex | guestish: yeah...;lol.. I am trying to do without |
| 00:21.28 | Blissex | Oskilian: that's pretty likely. |
| 00:21.40 | sdb1 | nort0n, have you tried the OSS es1370 driver? |
| 00:21.48 | Blissex | hiway: it may be that that CD is copy protected. |
| 00:22.04 | Oskilian | Blissex: Is there anything I should install to do this? |
| 00:22.04 | nort0n | sdb1: no |
| 00:22.08 | guestish | alex: try going into single user mode then into init 2-5 again |
| 00:22.17 | sdb1 | perhaps that would help to rule out driver problems... |
| 00:22.19 | guestish | alex: its slightly less klunky :) |
| 00:22.20 | hiway | mm? (note that it does this with arbitrary cds) |
| 00:22.25 | Blissex | Oskilian: depends, but there is a specific package for Xenix/SYSV compatibility. |
| 00:22.34 | alex | guestish: heu ??? |
| 00:22.34 | guestish | alex: shutdown or telinit S or telinit 1 |
| 00:22.49 | guestish | alex: it does a bunch of shutting down without shutting down ;) |
| 00:22.56 | guestish | alex: "matience mode" |
| 00:23.03 | alex | guestish: mmm |
| 00:23.03 | Blissex | Oskilian: you probably also need to copy some runtime libraries from SYSV to Linux. |
| 00:23.19 | sdb1 | nort0n, when you run aumix, what are the mixer channels that are listed? |
| 00:23.24 | alex | guestish: still it is cheating |
| 00:23.31 | jbr | alex: surely /etc/init.d/networking restart would do, at worst? |
| 00:23.34 | guestish | alex: it is cheating? |
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| 00:23.52 | guestish | alex: oh yeah, that would do it, /etc/init.d/networking restart ;) |
| 00:24.04 | alex | jbr: i try but it the same than doing a ifdown ifup no ? |
| 00:24.11 | alex | Itry |
| 00:24.21 | hiway | blissex: cds known to work on this drive, before I upgraded to a 2.6 kernel. |
| 00:24.22 | jbr | alex: are you running a DNS server? |
| 00:24.29 | Blissex | Oskilian: also, look at the Commercial-HOWTO |
| 00:24.35 | hiway | blissex: actually my hunch is that this has something to do with ide-scsi, but... |
| 00:24.45 | sdb1 | nort0n, the oss driver has volume, pcm, synth, cd, line, line1, line2, line3, mic and ogain. |
| 00:24.48 | hiway | I'm out of my depth though. |
| 00:24.53 | guestish | brb |
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| 00:25.11 | willtmo | Hello...how do I correctly install a Xserver in debian ? |
| 00:25.13 | Blissex | hiway: in 2.6.x there are, depending on exact release, some issue with 'ide-scsi'. |
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| 00:25.18 | hiway | *nod*. |
| 00:25.31 | guestish | ah kde, good have it back |
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| 00:26.32 | hiway | mm, actually, mind if I copy-paste some stuff over in #flood? |
| 00:26.36 | Psyke | joe666 cool it works i did get a weird display though at first before it loaded kdm |
| 00:26.46 | indes | hiway, thats why its there |
| 00:27.26 | sdb1 | erk, the ens1370 ALSA driver is not a pretty sight... but it seems that ALSA drivers rarely are |
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| 00:27.43 | hiway | the trick is, blissex isn't :) |
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| 00:28.25 | LSorensen | sdb1: they are usually among the best drivers there are |
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| 00:28.34 | drakeman | hello |
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| 00:28.47 | sdb1 | LSorensen, oh yeah, they work well. |
| 00:28.47 | orospakr | hm, what are notable examples of things that depend on curl? |
| 00:28.50 | dpowers | what's the best way to searchable access to the mailing lists? |
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| 00:29.02 | LSorensen | orospakr: php can use it |
| 00:29.07 | hiway | grip uses it, I believe. |
| 00:29.09 | sdb1 | the OSS drivers are usually way easier to read though |
| 00:29.16 | drakeman | I fixed the HD part in my kernel, but now the keyboard doesnt respond when i boot :( |
| 00:29.28 | orospakr | hm, so even with curl b0rked the system would be mostly usable...? :) |
| 00:29.29 | LSorensen | sdb1: and much less functional and often don't use the chip fully (or necesarily even natively) |
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| 00:29.38 | LSorensen | orospakr: generally yes |
| 00:29.42 | sdb1 | oh yes, I'd definitely agree with that. |
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| 00:29.46 | sdb1 | but as I said, not a pretty sight. |
| 00:30.00 | LSorensen | sdb1: alsa is highly modular. might make it a bit harder to follow initially |
| 00:30.09 | hiway | so anyway, for example the /dev/cdrom0 symlink points to /dev/scd0, which strikes me as Horribly Wrong now that I'm not using ide-scsi. |
| 00:30.22 | LSorensen | hiway: so change it to point to /dev/hdc or whatever is right |
| 00:30.29 | hiway | hrm, OK. |
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| 00:30.56 | Matong | at ALL: I can't get dri with my ati 3d rage lt on my laptop. i don't have a glue, where the problem is. I only used nvidia cards. The system is an debian unstable |
| 00:30.58 | sdb1 | lsorensen, yeah, that's to be expected though |
| 00:31.21 | orospakr | LSorensen, thanks. :) |
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| 00:31.29 | guestish | anyone else here having problems with kde's menus and toolbars? |
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| 00:31.47 | Blissex | hiway: that sounds a pretty bad idea indeed. |
| 00:31.50 | willtmo | I tried installing XFree86 through apt-get. I doesn't work and says that it's "missing screens"...what am I missing ? |
| 00:32.05 | Matong | has anyone a glue? |
| 00:32.08 | Blissex | hiway: just give the real device name to 'grip' |
| 00:32.16 | LSorensen | willtmo: usually means you misconfigured it (wrong video driver, or wrong monitor settings or unsupported video card) |
| 00:32.20 | debian | glue..... |
| 00:32.23 | Blissex | willtmo: you need to configure XFree86 too. There are several ways. |
| 00:32.36 | drakeman | I compiled my 2.6.6 kernel withm my keyboard (standard) support built it, but when i boot with it, the keyboard doesnt respond when i get to the login screen... (in console, no dm) |
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| 00:32.40 | hiway | yeh. looks like my problem's unrelated, though, since I still get a crash when I point grip to /dev/hdc |
| 00:32.47 | jbr | debian: it's the gnome reimplementation, cf klue |
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| 00:32.51 | suzzi | hello all, does any one know of a free 'compile farm' that i could use to compile a new kernel package. I would realy prefer not to do it on my laptop (486 75Mz) if i can avoid. |
| 00:32.53 | willtmo | ok...1 way of configuring it would be...? |
| 00:32.58 | hiway | and gnome-cd still goes "uhh" when asked to play a disc. |
| 00:33.01 | Blissex | Matong: Rage 3D is very old, I doubt it is still supported in any meaningful way. |
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| 00:33.12 | sdb1 | re nort0n |
| 00:33.17 | LSorensen | suzzi: debian has lovely premade kernels available in every release |
| 00:33.21 | nort0n | sdb1: my internet went down |
| 00:33.28 | sdb1 | :( |
| 00:33.28 | Blissex | hiway: try, just to check, to use 'cdparanoia' from the command line. |
| 00:33.35 | nort0n | no, i havent tried the oss driver |
| 00:33.40 | sdb1 | nort0n, nor evil dialup? :( |
| 00:33.41 | LSorensen | willtmo: what video card? |
| 00:33.46 | sdb1 | s/nor/not/ |
| 00:33.47 | drakeman | suzzi: compile farm?? do such things even exist? |
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| 00:33.55 | LSorensen | drakeman: probably not |
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| 00:33.56 | willtmo | Geforce 2 GTS 32 mb ddr |
| 00:34.01 | suzzi | LSorensen ya i know but i would realy like to have my own kernel that is smaller then the 20M of packages. i have a 500M harddrive, thanks though |
| 00:34.04 | drakeman | LSorensen: hehe :P |
| 00:34.06 | LSorensen | willtmo: and which driver did you select? |
| 00:34.08 | suzzi | drakeman yup |
| 00:34.09 | sdb1 | re re nort0n |
| 00:34.12 | nort0n | sdb1: no ADSL, but theres something strange with ourt telephones :/ |
| 00:34.14 | nort0n | *our |
| 00:34.14 | directhex | drakeman, distcc. ask a gentoo user. |
| 00:34.16 | LSorensen | suzzi: 500M should be fine |
| 00:34.17 | willtmo | "nv" |
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| 00:34.26 | sdb1 | um, oh. |
| 00:34.28 | LSorensen | willtmo: and what monitor settings? |
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| 00:34.40 | suzzi | LSorensen umm no 500M for everything and only about 67M is free |
| 00:34.47 | LSorensen | suzzi: that's still enough |
| 00:34.48 | sdb1 | nort0n, dodgy microfilters or something? |
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| 00:35.05 | Bill | how can I RESTART the network? without going ifdown (im remoting in and ... if it goes down like that I cant type ifup ...) |
| 00:35.18 | hiway | well, that's interesting. |
| 00:35.21 | hiway | cdparanoia works. |
| 00:35.26 | LSorensen | Bill: launch screen, run /etc/init.d/networking restart (inside screen) |
| 00:35.28 | willtmo | «« LSorensen »» You mean like resolution ? cause that's the only thing I know for sure about it. I selected the "simple" configuration for Xfree. |
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| 00:35.36 | Niels` | Bill, the only method i know is ifconfig eth0 up / down |
| 00:35.45 | suzzi | LSorensen the source alone is 40 some odd Meg compressed |
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| 00:35.52 | Bill | lsorensen why inside screen?? |
| 00:35.52 | nort0n | sdb1: no idea. dont know anything about it. but we'll try to fix it later |
| 00:35.53 | drakeman | directhex: heh, i was a gentoo user :P but ive never heard of publicly available 'compile farms' |
| 00:35.55 | LSorensen | willtmo: well make sure the monitor specs are correct or thing just won't work. read the monitor manual or search google for accurate monitor info |
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| 00:36.03 | jbr | Bill: sounds like you want /etc/init.d/networking restart, but I can't guarantee it'll restart happily |
| 00:36.06 | LSorensen | Bill: that way it will continue running the command for sure even if the link drops |
| 00:36.25 | DevMod | oooo |
| 00:36.36 | Bill | so screen -dmS /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
| 00:36.57 | willtmo | «« LSorensen »» is there a way to flush out all of I did and restart from scratch ? I tried apt-get remove but there are still bits and pieces laying around. |
| 00:37.01 | sdb1 | nort0n, I would definitely think about trying the oss driver... |
| 00:37.07 | LSorensen | Bill: no just screen, then /etc/init.d/networking restart, and if it drops, you reconnect, and if it doesn't (the usual) you just keep going |
| 00:37.19 | LSorensen | willtmo: apt-get remove --purge xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:37.26 | FrankP | Hi - I have a question about e2fsprogs dependancies |
| 00:37.30 | willtmo | ah...thank you. |
| 00:37.33 | Blissex | willtmo: use 'aptitude' to fix bad dependencies. |
| 00:37.41 | Bill | lsorensen I typed screen and it just told me to press space to continue. nothing happened. |
| 00:37.44 | Bill | back to command |
| 00:37.44 | willtmo | what is aptitude ? |
| 00:37.49 | LSorensen | Bill: echo $TERM. something happened |
| 00:37.56 | nort0n | sdb1: ok. What should i do if it works? can i use both alsa and oss? |
| 00:37.56 | LSorensen | Bill: hit control-a ? |
| 00:38.04 | hiway | WEIRDNESS. okay. gnome-cd freezes, grip crashes, but I can rip using cdparanoia and workbone plays CDs fine. |
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| 00:38.07 | Bill | lsorensen nothing |
| 00:38.19 | LSorensen | Bill: control-a and question mark does nothing? |
| 00:38.29 | Bill | crap... |
| 00:38.30 | Bill | just a sec |
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| 00:38.39 | Blissex | hiway: so perhaps it is a problem with 'grip'? Like upgrading 'grip' to see if gets fixed? |
| 00:38.43 | sdb1 | nort0n, no, not really. |
| 00:38.50 | LSorensen | Blissex: or check bts for info |
| 00:38.51 | nort0n | sdb1: ok |
| 00:38.59 | Blissex | hiway: or perhaps there is some bad option in the 'grip' configuration. |
| 00:39.18 | hiway | *nod*. I think I'll --purge grip and see what happens |
| 00:39.45 | Blissex | hiway: if the problem is with your 'grip' config, purging 'grip' won't change that. |
| 00:39.55 | hiway | mm? |
| 00:40.05 | sdb1 | nort0n, I actually have a chip for which I can load both the oss and alsa drivers simultaneously. it machine tends to crash if you try that though ;) |
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| 00:40.26 | LSorensen | sdb1: you would think it might :) |
| 00:40.42 | sdb1 | nort0n, the pain is, I have no idea how I'm meant to prevent that from happening, and I think it might not even be a problem in the drivers. |
| 00:41.00 | LSorensen | sdb1: alias ossdrivername off |
| 00:41.05 | LSorensen | sdb1: in modprobe config |
| 00:41.08 | Blissex | hiway: 'grip' has lots of configuration options. They are kept under your home dir in '~/.grip'. This is nor removed or reset by reinstalling/upgrading 'grip'. |
| 00:41.13 | hiway | ... must have been something in .grip. |
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| 00:41.41 | sdb1 | LSorensen, well, that's not what I'm really asking. |
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| 00:41.51 | hiway | okay. grip is working. I am a semi-happy camper. |
| 00:42.18 | sdb1 | LSorensen, I think it's the register_parisc_driver's fault but I don't know enough yet. |
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| 00:42.27 | hiway | I wonder what stupid thing I did to break it. I also vaguely wonder what I've done to gnome-cd, but since I never use it I'll pretend the problem re: it doesn't exist. |
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| 00:42.45 | eduardoacc | quien habla español |
| 00:42.49 | nort0n | sdb1: i see. Well, im gonna try the oss drivers |
| 00:42.55 | green-ears | LSorensen: would it be best for willtmo it install x-window-system-core because xserver-xfree86 would be a lot to light ? |
| 00:42.57 | PiPe- | eduardoacc: #debian-es |
| 00:43.02 | eduardoacc | ok |
| 00:43.03 | eduardoacc | tanx |
| 00:43.21 | LSorensen | green-ears: probably |
| 00:43.22 | eduardoacc | #debian-es |
| 00:43.34 | LSorensen | green-ears: won't fix the config, but it's a useful thing overall |
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| 00:44.15 | FrankP | I'm trying to upgrade e2fsprogs, but apt-get says it will remove my running kernel if I do :( |
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| 00:45.12 | sdb1 | oh, I see... so it's normal to be able to load multiple drivers for the same device... :( |
| 00:45.31 | LSorensen | sdb1: usually the second to load just doesn't find a non busy device and does nothing |
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| 00:46.15 | sdb1 | LSorensen, ahh, I that might be different in this case. :( |
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| 00:47.18 | LSorensen | sdb1: of course if alsa uses the native interface and oss tries to run an sb or wss emulation interface they might both get access and make a nice mess |
| 00:47.46 | pablo | after installing some backports ..... now when i press a key it doesnt repeat (autorepeat) any ideas? (this hapens in x) |
| 00:47.54 | sdb1 | LSorensen, N/A here, but thanks for pointing that out. |
| 00:48.32 | LSorensen | pablo: some programs disable auto repeat and sometimes fail to reenable it. run xset r, in an xterm to reenable it |
| 00:51.19 | pablo | LSorensen: ok may tanks!! it worked fine!!! :) |
| 00:52.06 | sdb1 | tanks?! that can't be very gratifying! ;) |
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| 00:57.42 | thomas_adam | dpkg, botsnack. |
| 00:57.43 | dpkg | thanks, thomas_adam |
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| 01:00.23 | FieldySnuts | !medal thomas_adam |
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| 01:00.38 | thomas_adam | Now that's not very nice is it, dpkg? |
| 01:00.52 | thomas_adam | dpkg, what does FieldySnuts pay you for? |
| 01:00.53 | dpkg | sometimes FieldySnuts insists on foot massages, thomas_adam, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 01:01.00 | thomas_adam | hmm, I knew it! |
| 01:01.11 | debian | !win thomas_adam |
| 01:01.12 | dpkg | Congratulations, thomas_adam! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 01:01.18 | thomas_adam | hahahahaha |
| 01:01.26 | thomas_adam | "Great". :) |
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| 01:03.20 | nort0n | sdb1: ok. Installed the oss driver, sound works. But still the same problem with the gnome applet |
| 01:03.32 | thomas_adam | nort0n: What issue? |
| 01:04.04 | nort0n | thomas_adam: my gnome volume applet wont work. when i move the slider it jumps down to zero when i release it |
| 01:04.08 | cafuego | whoops! |
| 01:04.16 | cafuego | /dev/hda7 5257712 5257712 0 100% /home |
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| 01:04.21 | FieldySnuts | doh |
| 01:04.26 | sdb1 | nort0n, okay, so now you know that it's more likely to be a gnome issue |
| 01:04.28 | somiaj | cafuego: that can cause problems...(: |
| 01:04.29 | thomas_adam | nort0n: Does another mixer such as "aumix" control the sound level sok? |
| 01:04.37 | thomas_adam | cafuego: rm -fr $HOME |
| 01:04.43 | FieldySnuts | /dev/md1 80G 58G 22G 73% /home |
| 01:04.46 | FieldySnuts | thomas_adam: heh |
| 01:04.51 | sdb1 | this is the the point where I have no idea how to help :( |
| 01:04.52 | nort0n | thomas_adam: sok? |
| 01:04.59 | mentor | FieldySnuts: Bastard. |
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| 01:05.02 | somiaj | nort0n: ok |
| 01:05.03 | thomas_adam | nort0n: ? |
| 01:05.09 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: Hmmyeah, I *could* do that but I prefer to not run $HOME via nfs. |
| 01:05.22 | FieldySnuts | mentor: oh it fills up almost completely when it's time to pull down digital vid |
| 01:05.36 | FieldySnuts | cafuego: i'd prefer not to run anything via nfs |
| 01:05.39 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: nfs? |
| 01:05.39 | dpkg | i guess nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or http://www.j-mulders.demon.nl/unix/nis-rpc/doc/rpc/nfs-v2-protocol-specification.html for some gory details.. No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs' |
| 01:05.43 | nort0n | thomas_adam: what does sok mean in your question? but aumix works yes |
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| 01:05.53 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: Naaah, NFSv3 is fine. |
| 01:06.00 | thomas_adam | nort0n: It was a typi ng error. :) |
| 01:06.08 | nort0n | thomas_adam: ok :) |
| 01:06.25 | somiaj | nort0n: they are quite common in irc...(: |
| 01:06.42 | nort0n | sdb1: ok. well. Thanks alot for helping me! :) |
| 01:06.44 | sdb1 | thomas_adam, it appears that the mixer applet doesn't have a mixer device open though |
| 01:06.49 | cafuego | somiaj: yeah, I was wondering wtf Evolution was refusing to open mail. |
| 01:07.00 | thomas_adam | nort0n: does fuser/lsof report anything of use? |
| 01:07.09 | sdb1 | nort0n, someone else may be able to help, thomas_adam may be able to for instance |
| 01:07.28 | somiaj | cafuego: yea, a full hd can cause lots of strange errors, and is easy to over look...... |
| 01:07.43 | nort0n | thomas_adam: fuser shows that aumix has /dev/mixer open |
| 01:07.47 | nort0n | but not the applet |
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| 01:08.00 | thomas_adam | nort0n: Then close aumix and reload the applet. then re-run fuser. |
| 01:08.02 | somiaj | nort0n: right click on the applet and goto configure it, what device is it pointing at? (is it set of for alsa or oss) |
| 01:08.18 | thomas_adam | Bearing in mind that I have never used nor seen this applet. |
| 01:08.19 | cafuego | eh, only 23G left on the 160G disk as well |
| 01:08.38 | nort0n | thomas_adam: still nothing in fuser |
| 01:08.52 | somiaj | cafuego: yup, hd's are just like homes, no matter how big it is, you can always manage to fill it with crap...(: |
| 01:09.01 | cafuego | somiaj: Well, not crap.... |
| 01:09.12 | nort0n | somiaj: i cant configure it, it says that i should select the channel to control, but there is an empty list |
| 01:09.13 | thomas_adam | nort0n: Then look at the configure options for this applet (if any) -- if that is no good, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/<pkg> |
| 01:09.15 | somiaj | cafuego: of course it isn't. |
| 01:09.34 | thomas_adam | nort0n: Then maybe it needs to be started as: applet --option /dev/mixer ? |
| 01:09.36 | Korn | !seen bob2 |
| 01:09.36 | dpkg | bob2 <rob@bob2.registered> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 16h 13m 29s ago, saying: ' update-alternatives exists for that exact purpose.'. |
| 01:09.42 | sdb1 | I'm starting to think that a gnome channel may be better able to help. |
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| 01:10.20 | somiaj | cafuego: yea, I'm in the same boat, and tired of backing up on cd (takes to god damn long)...though my dvd drive is on the fritz and I'm kinda waiting for it to go to give me the incentive to get a burner |
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| 01:10.50 | FieldySnuts | plextor came out with a 12x, get that or their 8x will be much cheaper now. i have the 8x, fantastic drive |
| 01:10.57 | nort0n | thomas_adam: cant find any documentation, and when running the applet from the command line it wont show up in any panel |
| 01:10.59 | korpx | Hi! Any sed experts here? =) (no. everyone in #sed is asleep) |
| 01:11.01 | FieldySnuts | though finding media over 4x is not easy |
| 01:11.04 | FieldySnuts | but you'll be ready. |
| 01:11.07 | somiaj | thomas_adam: usually gnome applets can be configured by right click on them... |
| 01:11.15 | tcsetattr | korpx, ask the question |
| 01:11.18 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: I'll be getting a Pioneer. |
| 01:11.28 | FieldySnuts | sucker |
| 01:11.41 | thomas_adam | korpx: ask in #bash |
| 01:11.46 | cafuego | if only because they're made here, so a replacement will take a day at most |
| 01:11.50 | pablo | anyone knows if mandrake is as free as debian? sould it be used with comercial purposes without paying anythins (as debian? |
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| 01:11.54 | debian | FieldySnuts: dvd? |
| 01:12.05 | FieldySnuts | yes |
| 01:12.16 | thomas_adam | pablo: ask that again. |
| 01:12.18 | mentor | pablo: Nice try, but rather off topic. |
| 01:12.19 | SpIdeRwEv | what was the file we where waiting to be uploaded for gnome? |
| 01:12.23 | FieldySnuts | !medal pablo |
| 01:12.28 | SpIdeRwEv | yesterday |
| 01:12.28 | thomas_adam | !tell SpIdeRwEv about bts |
| 01:12.47 | asg | FieldySnuts: sloppycheapboozewangtekk |
| 01:12.49 | thomas_adam | here comes a bot flood: |
| 01:12.51 | mentor | pablo: AFAIK, mandrake is free to use, only support contracts cost money. |
| 01:12.54 | thomas_adam | !tell pablo about ask |
| 01:12.56 | thomas_adam | !tell pablo about sicco |
| 01:12.57 | korpx | tcsetattr, I'd like to replace a / in a string with \/ and what I have been able to do is this; echo "i have a cd/dvd player" | sed "s/\//\ \\\ /g" |
| 01:12.59 | somiaj | pablo: go read their license....though I haven't ran across any distro that is anal as debian about 'freedom', I bet most of madrake is but they won't have a non-free section, so you may pull in stuff with an install that isn't 'free' if your not careful. |
| 01:13.02 | SpIdeRwEv | thomas_adam, please don't do that as I get a window pop-up |
| 01:13.05 | debian | FieldySnuts: can plextor burn all brands of dvds? |
| 01:13.10 | thomas_adam | SpIdeRwEv: Tough. |
| 01:13.24 | korpx | tcsetattr, but echo "i have a cd/dvd player" | sed "s/\//\\\\/g" does not work |
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| 01:13.34 | FieldySnuts | debian: i don't understand why one brand would be different, but they're high end drives i'd assume they could |
| 01:13.36 | geoff___ | lol.. I get a window popup.. diddums! :) |
| 01:13.39 | mentor | SpIdeRwEv: We're not going to let it spam the channel.... |
| 01:13.42 | tcsetattr | you want to change slash to backslash+slash? |
| 01:13.45 | thomas_adam | korpx: echo "foo/foo" | sed -e 's#/##' |
| 01:13.51 | thomas_adam | korpx: echo "foo/foo" | sed -e 's#/#\#' |
| 01:13.57 | thomas_adam | korpx: or what have you. |
| 01:14.01 | debian | FieldySnuts: assume thtey could? you just buy it do you? :) |
| 01:14.12 | tcsetattr | man, that's severe "leaning toothpick syndrome" in that command |
| 01:14.18 | FieldySnuts | debian: i've never heard of there being differences between dvd disk brands |
| 01:14.30 | FieldySnuts | debian: if you mean dvdr-/+ , it does both |
| 01:14.33 | tcsetattr | sed 's,/,\\/,' |
| 01:14.34 | FieldySnuts | or whatever the hell. |
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| 01:14.40 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: There is between dvd- dvd+ |
| 01:14.47 | FieldySnuts | i just covered that silly |
| 01:15.12 | cafuego | pfff, all pioneers here are cheaper then plextors. |
| 01:15.21 | mentor | That's not a difference between the disk brands, but hte disk types. |
| 01:15.27 | korpx | tcsetattr, thanks! that worked fine |
| 01:15.34 | debian | FieldySnuts: I didn't mean dvd+-rw, I mean brands. google for it. There's known problems with some drive not being able to burn on some brand of disk. I've couple of those unburnable with my crappy NEC 1300A |
| 01:15.50 | tcsetattr | sed 's/\//\\\//' should work too, but it's ugly |
| 01:16.04 | FieldySnuts | debian: geez. that's lame. i thought it was dumb enough they couldn't settle on one standard. |
| 01:16.08 | debian | FieldySnuts: as cafuego mentioned Pionneer, which is the kind of drive that can burn on *most* brand |
| 01:16.20 | asg | drakeman: sorry, it was http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?dynamic=1&referer=%2Fthumbs.phtml%3Fcategory_id%3D1&page=product_1053_front.phtml |
| 01:16.30 | FieldySnuts | plextors are very good drives, if it couldn't write to a disk i'd suspect the disk first |
| 01:17.06 | debian | FieldySnuts: not really a matter of standard...I really don't know why. There's a homepage listing burnable brands on certain DVD writers. I forgot where is it |
| 01:17.08 | sdb1 | korpx, sorry, do you want to replace it with a "\" or "\/"? |
| 01:17.10 | drakeman | asg: hmmm i forgive you? what were we talking about? :P |
| 01:17.14 | cafuego | so i think i'll go with brand loyalty there |
| 01:17.16 | eduardoacc | u si the spanish debian chat? |
| 01:17.22 | FieldySnuts | !u |
| 01:17.22 | thomas_adam | I have one of those "slot" CDROm drives that doesn't have a load-tray. |
| 01:17.22 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 |
| 01:17.22 | asg | drakeman: the Unix version of Sex T-Shirt |
| 01:17.30 | debian | FieldySnuts:I've never met one using plextor so I asked. :) |
| 01:17.33 | FieldySnuts | do you play with your slot, thomas_adam |
| 01:17.34 | cafuego | mentor: Mine's an A03; yours is the slot loader right? |
| 01:17.40 | mentor | cafuego: yah. |
| 01:17.44 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: Yes, honey. |
| 01:17.46 | FieldySnuts | ehh |
| 01:17.54 | mush | like it or not, "u" is obviously a word |
| 01:17.55 | cafuego | mentor: Should be identical to mine, apart from the tray/slot. |
| 01:17.59 | thomas_adam | dpkg, tell eduardoacc about spanish |
| 01:18.16 | thomas_adam | mush: u what? |
| 01:18.20 | FieldySnuts | mush: no, it is not. it's a lazy shortening of a word. if somebody can't be bothered to spell full words when talking to me, i can't be bothered to answer. |
| 01:18.24 | hyde | oh wow, i have a pioneer too, just realized |
| 01:18.25 | drakeman | asg: ohhh.. are you saying the T-shirt is on thinkgeek? |
| 01:18.26 | mush | u know |
| 01:18.34 | cafuego | mentor: I think I flashed mine a few years ago, though. |
| 01:18.36 | FieldySnuts | only exception being SMS messaging or something, then I can understand. |
| 01:18.37 | korpx | sdb1, thanks but tcsetattr has solved it for me. I wanted to replace the / with \/ |
| 01:18.40 | drakeman | asg: ill have to look again.. i havent found it |
| 01:18.46 | mentor | cafuego: Of course I flashed mine. |
| 01:18.46 | thomas_adam | ne1 ere? plsthxbye. |
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| 01:18.58 | mush | FieldySnuts: many english words are "lazy shortenings" |
| 01:19.00 | debian | FieldySnuts: I burn quite a lot of dvd (video creation/editing), and that crappy NEC 1300A is my worse investment of life. |
| 01:19.05 | somiaj | thomas_adam: are you on crack? |
| 01:19.10 | sdb1 | korpx, *nod* just wasn't sure what you actually wanted |
| 01:19.10 | asg | drakeman: I assumed it was, turns out that copyleft.net is the current purveyor |
| 01:19.16 | mentor | cafuego: The other one works fine... |
| 01:19.18 | thomas_adam | somiaj: No. |
| 01:19.22 | FieldySnuts | !medal mush |
| 01:19.27 | thomas_adam | Just chocolate. (well, choccy-porridge) |
| 01:19.28 | mentor | cafuego: I took this one apart to see if I could see anything, but no joy. |
| 01:19.31 | somiaj | thomas_adam: just courious...that was some strange words comeing from ya...(: |
| 01:19.36 | dan2 | asg! |
| 01:19.40 | FieldySnuts | heh it still hasn't said "for being a badger hunter" yet |
| 01:19.42 | thomas_adam | dan2: . |
| 01:19.43 | tcsetattr | just for educational value, consider sed 's/[/]/\\&/' |
| 01:19.44 | asg | dan2: :) how are things |
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| 01:19.51 | dan2 | thomas_adam! |
| 01:19.52 | dan2 | :) |
| 01:20.01 | SpIdeRwEv | thomas_adam, do you remember the filename in the topic yesterday... |
| 01:20.01 | thomas_adam | dan2: How might things be going? |
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| 01:20.12 | thomas_adam | SpIdeRwEv: Which package? |
| 01:20.18 | dan2 | asg: thomas_adam: good, Phil is shipping the laptops today |
| 01:20.21 | drakeman | asg: ohhh, ok :P ill look there :D thanks |
| 01:20.29 | asg | drakeman: *nod* |
| 01:20.31 | thomas_adam | dan2: oooh. ;) |
| 01:20.35 | asg | drakeman: Phil? laptops? |
| 01:20.40 | SpIdeRwEv | thomas_adam, a gnome package, that was posted yesterday in the topic... We were waiting for it to be uploaded |
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| 01:20.55 | dan2 | thomas_adam: asg: s/shipping/shipped/ |
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| 01:21.13 | korpx | tcsetattr, lol thanks =) I'm taking notes. I'm not so very alert right now (3:20 am) |
| 01:21.15 | FlimFlamMan | man, i just read the ken brown article. depressing in so many ways. |
| 01:21.24 | thomas_adam | FlimFlamMan: ? |
| 01:21.24 | mentor | SpIdeRwEv: We're not going to let it spam the channel.... |
| 01:21.35 | thomas_adam | mentor: too slow, he left. |
| 01:21.39 | mentor | gah |
| 01:21.40 | mentor | again. |
| 01:21.42 | drakeman | asg: huh? you prolly meant dan2 |
| 01:21.47 | FlimFlamMan | thomas_adam, that alexis de tocqueville institute piece of crap |
| 01:21.50 | thomas_adam | mentor: <-- some mentor you'd make. :) |
| 01:21.56 | dave | I want to setup Debian to startup my second network card on boot (eth1), with a static address. How would one do this? |
| 01:21.56 | thomas_adam | FlimFlamMan: ?? :) |
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| 01:22.06 | asg | drakeman: no, I was nodding at your thanking me and looking :) |
| 01:22.06 | thomas_adam | dave: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:22.12 | dan2 | asg: I didn't tell you I was getting a bunch of free lappys? |
| 01:22.15 | dave | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 01:22.17 | asg | dan2: no |
| 01:22.21 | SpIdeRwEv | thomas_adam, sorry for the disconnection issue |
| 01:22.26 | asg | dan2: good ones? |
| 01:22.27 | SpIdeRwEv | thomas_adam, a gnome package, that was posted yesterday in the topic... We were waiting for it to be uploaded |
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| 01:22.30 | thomas_adam | SpIdeRwEv: I couldn't care less. |
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| 01:22.42 | dan2 | asg: google for toshiba tecra 8000 + 192mb ram :) |
| 01:22.44 | asg | SpIdeRwEv: check incoming.debian.org |
| 01:22.45 | drakeman | asg: haha, i know about that :P i meant about the laptops... |
| 01:22.47 | asg | drakeman: ooooo |
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| 01:22.50 | thomas_adam | SpIdeRwEv: So do a apt-get -us dist-upgrade |
| 01:22.50 | asg | drakeman: ah |
| 01:22.53 | drakeman | :P |
| 01:22.54 | mentor | SpIdeRwEv: We're not going to let it spam the channel.... |
| 01:22.54 | FlimFlamMan | thomas_adam: http://www.adti.net/samizdat/brown.reply.june.04.html |
| 01:23.07 | mentor | SpIdeRwEv: And if you /msg the bots, you have to open a new window anyway. |
| 01:23.08 | FlimFlamMan | "linux is a leprosy" |
| 01:23.14 | SpIdeRwEv | asg, thanks... |
| 01:23.21 | mentor | so is humanity |
| 01:23.23 | drakeman | !kill bill |
| 01:23.34 | mentor | and Windows. |
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| 01:23.44 | SpIdeRwEv | mentor, if someone would already know the answe they would have already said like "libgnome" |
| 01:23.49 | asg | mentor: :) |
| 01:23.58 | orospakr | hm, upgrade to sid went without a hitch. |
| 01:24.03 | orospakr | funky mouse pointer. ;) |
| 01:24.15 | korpx | off to bed. thanks everyone |
| 01:24.18 | asg | orospakr: funky as in dripping goo? |
| 01:24.33 | thomas_adam | FlimFlamMan: what an utter load of horse manure. |
| 01:24.48 | orospakr | asg, nah, nice anti-aliased one with a shadow. Never seen it before, is all. :P |
| 01:25.07 | mentor | If someone wants to give away stuff for free, that's their perogative, and if it devalues your product, that's the free market so TS. |
| 01:25.18 | asg | orospakr: ah, X4.3 in sid (update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme (for others)) |
| 01:25.37 | mentor | It was libcups-gnutls10? |
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| 01:25.47 | mentor | libcupsys? |
| 01:25.53 | drakeman | mentor: ts? |
| 01:25.59 | mentor | Tough Shit. |
| 01:25.59 | asg | mentor: probably, should be in incoming now though |
| 01:26.00 | thomas_adam | mentor: Don't waste your time, he shouldn't be running unstable. |
| 01:26.01 | orospakr | asg, whoa, nice! |
| 01:26.11 | FlimFlamMan | thomas_adam, yeah. it also brings home how completely bought-and-paid-for these "think-tanks" are. |
| 01:26.17 | mentor | No, I was just wondering why it had been removed from the topic. |
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| 01:26.26 | drakeman | what can cause a bit of flicker/white noise when im using a console at a high resolution? (w/o X running) |
| 01:26.31 | thomas_adam | FlimFlamMan: Government advisors. |
| 01:26.32 | alex__ | when I do an apt-get upgrade it always says xxxMo needs to be installed but never xxMo needs to be erased, I wonder it get rids of the no more needed files, how do I clean my system ? how do I do to free my space disk ? |
| 01:26.38 | asg | drakeman: badgers |
| 01:26.39 | drakeman | mentor: oh |
| 01:26.46 | mentor | drakeman: :) |
| 01:26.48 | drakeman | asg: badgers? |
| 01:26.49 | shadows | drakeman, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/milkshake.html |
| 01:26.54 | dave | thomas_adam: thanks a lot again :) |
| 01:26.59 | asg | !tell drakeman about badgers |
| 01:26.59 | shadows | !tell drakeman about rice |
| 01:27.01 | shadows | oops |
| 01:27.04 | thomas_adam | dave: yw. |
| 01:27.08 | drakeman | shadows: look |
| 01:27.11 | lazarus | alex__: man apt-get |
| 01:27.25 | drakeman | shadows: rice? |
| 01:27.30 | drakeman | haha |
| 01:27.31 | FlimFlamMan | thomas_adam: they provide a bought-and-paid-for veneer of legitimacy for bought-and-paid-for politicians to do as they are told. |
| 01:27.37 | asg | shadows: okay, milkshake.html, badgers, and rice might be an odd combo |
| 01:27.38 | shadows | http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| 01:27.45 | shadows | rice. |
| 01:27.54 | FieldySnuts | HEH i saw that earlier, funny as hell |
| 01:27.55 | asg | shadows: s/rice/ricers/ |
| 01:27.59 | alex__ | lazarus: oh please... |
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| 01:28.11 | drakeman | asg: and shadows: do these pages have graphics? im not in X right now |
| 01:28.15 | FieldySnuts | !badger drakeman |
| 01:28.16 | dpkg | drakeman: BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
| 01:28.30 | FieldySnuts | drakeman: yes but you don't need them, but they add to it. the page also appears to be in dhtml though, good luck |
| 01:28.39 | asg | drakeman: the factoid I gave you has two urls. The first is flash, the second is just funny (and viewable in lynx) |
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| 01:28.40 | lazarus | alex__: you have not read it if you're asking that |
| 01:28.58 | drakeman | asg: ill look at the second :P |
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| 01:29.15 | asg | drakeman: it isn't as funny unless you've seen the first though. |
| 01:29.47 | FieldySnuts | asg: ricetekkwangggg |
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| 01:30.18 | asg | FieldySnuts: I'd have won too if it hadn't been for those meddling kids |
| 01:30.48 | drakeman | asg: its quite funny :P damn, i guess ill have to start X... i take it that all this has nothing to do with my problem, right? |
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| 01:31.09 | asg | drakeman: right a little comic relief. |
| 01:31.14 | bghfhfg | Why is my computer spontaneously locking when I start something with a heavy, consistent load on the CPU? |
| 01:31.25 | asg | bghfhfg: CPU overheating? |
| 01:31.54 | bghfhfg | Ummm.. Wouldn't that fry it or something? |
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| 01:32.33 | asg | bghfhfg: yes but lockups with large cpu load often indicate a lack of proper CPU cooling (i.e. fans, concubines w/ fans, liquid nitro, etc.) |
| 01:32.39 | bghfhfg | Anyway, isn't the CPU just doing busy work when it's not occupied? How do I monitor the CPU temperature? |
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| 01:32.48 | drakeman | asg: hehe :P damn, gdm messed up my user startx authority... do you know which package do i need to reconfigure to let users start X? |
| 01:33.02 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: Well, you're back. Run memtest86 |
| 01:33.02 | asg | drakeman: edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 01:33.09 | drakeman | bghfhfg: youre watching that interactive porn, arent you? |
| 01:33.19 | debian | bghfhfg: what kernel? SMP? |
| 01:33.29 | bghfhfg | drakeman: I don't watch porn. I never have. |
| 01:33.29 | thomas_adam | drakeman: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 01:33.38 | thomas_adam | drakeman: also /msg dpkg xsession |
| 01:33.38 | z|bandito | http://www.blockcopycoders.com/temp/mario.wmv |
| 01:33.40 | bghfhfg | debian: 2.4.26-k7. |
| 01:33.41 | z|bandito | http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=324378#324378 |
| 01:33.44 | drakeman | asg: liquid nitro? LOL |
| 01:33.50 | drakeman | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 01:34.05 | sdb1 | FlimFlamMan, well, didn't http://lwn.net/Articles/86087/ say it all? |
| 01:34.10 | asg | drakeman: with a silent 'gen' yes. Awesome stuff. |
| 01:34.12 | bghfhfg | That's actually a good idea- Why don't we use liquid nitro? |
| 01:34.17 | orospakr | mono is broken right now in sid? |
| 01:34.22 | drakeman | bghfhfg: right.. we believe you |
| 01:34.29 | drakeman | !believe bghfhfg |
| 01:34.36 | drakeman | asg: silent gen? |
| 01:34.40 | Justin | bghfhfg: why stop there, why not use liquid oxygen |
| 01:34.44 | debian | bghfhfg: does it exhibit the similar behavior with earlier kernel? say .24? |
| 01:34.49 | asg | drakeman: as in liquid nitro + gen |
| 01:34.58 | drakeman | asg: what is gen? |
| 01:35.07 | asg | drakeman: the 'silent gen' was silent and left as an exercise to the reader |
| 01:35.10 | bghfhfg | thomas_adam: If some area of memory were damaged, wouldn't that affect other programs? |
| 01:35.31 | bghfhfg | Justin: Too cold- liable to boil off to quickly or chill the CPU too much. |
| 01:35.35 | holycow | hahahaha |
| 01:35.35 | bghfhfg | debian: No. |
| 01:35.40 | holycow | good linkage, love that |
| 01:35.50 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: It can still lead to a general lock-up as well as segfaults. Either way still run it, or don't and do as you see fit. |
| 01:35.51 | drakeman | Justin: you are not doing it right.. he needs solid hydrogen |
| 01:35.52 | bghfhfg | drakeman: Really. |
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| 01:36.11 | bghfhfg | thomas_adam: I want to run it without having to reboot and spend five minutes fixing my FS. |
| 01:36.19 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: Ok. |
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| 01:36.22 | alex__ | lazarus: ok so I have read the man and it said that none of the old package are erased, so that confirms my feeling that my HD is getting more and more full, how can I then clean it up ? |
| 01:36.24 | debian | bghfhfg: honestly, I experienced something with .23 and .26. but I'm using SMP compiled from source I dont think it's related to your problem |
| 01:36.26 | drakeman | bghfhfg: not if you overclock it a lot :P |
| 01:36.29 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: You're not an 'uptime' freak are you? |
| 01:36.39 | debian | s/somthing/something similar |
| 01:36.40 | bghfhfg | drakeman: I don't overclock it. |
| 01:36.59 | drakeman | bghfhfg: well, you should so you can cool it with solid hydrogen |
| 01:37.11 | bghfhfg | thomas_adam: No one uses my HTTP daemon, so no. It's just an annoyance to have to do it every half hour or so... |
| 01:37.30 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: Well, it _would_ rule out the possibility. |
| 01:37.37 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: But hey - you're call. |
| 01:37.54 | bghfhfg | debian: It's not a kernel problem. I use Debian kernel binaries. (YES I TRIED COMILING FROM SOURCE- complete crash-n-burn. Wouldn't even boot.) |
| 01:38.46 | thomas_adam | bghfhfg: Woah, looks as thought you could do with some of that coolant yourself. |
| 01:39.00 | asg | thomas_adam: think he's had enough already |
| 01:39.07 | bghfhfg | thomas_adam: Heh. |
| 01:39.19 | Ramona | is there a /usr/share/lib ? |
| 01:39.31 | thomas_adam | Ramona: There's a cluebar, |
| 01:39.36 | asg | Ramona: if not, mkdir /usr/share/lib will take care of the problem |
| 01:39.36 | thomas_adam | and a cluebat. |
| 01:39.51 | Justin | why would there be a /usr/share/lib ? |
| 01:40.00 | alex__ | so apt-get clean will erased my old packages no longer in use ? |
| 01:40.03 | bghfhfg | thomas_adam: So, any ideas? |
| 01:40.10 | thomas_adam | alex__: try apt-get autoclean |
| 01:40.13 | asg | alex__: no, the debs downloaded after updates |
| 01:40.19 | thomas_adam | alex__: and try RTFM for apt-get |
| 01:40.26 | dan2 | asg: what a pita, heh |
| 01:40.29 | alex__ | thomas_adam: I am |
| 01:40.37 | alex__ | I am just asking for precision |
| 01:40.46 | dan2 | asg: I took on the effort of rebuilding dbmail's build system to upgrade to automake1.8 |
| 01:40.47 | asg | dan2: pita's are good with raw onions and hummus. |
| 01:40.58 | bghfhfg | How do you monitor CPU temperature? |
| 01:41.01 | asg | dan2: ah |
| 01:41.06 | alex__ | it is just some syntax that I do not understand very well that is all |
| 01:41.08 | drakeman | asg: btw, does dpkg have any other interesting 'definitions' (such as sex?) |
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| 01:41.19 | asg | drakeman: /msg dpkg listkeys <keywords> |
| 01:41.24 | dan2 | asg: apt-move now has a beauty of a build system |
| 01:41.25 | asg | drakeman: /msg dpkg listvals <keywords> |
| 01:41.28 | alex__ | you can understand that everybody knows that the man can sometimes be confusing |
| 01:41.36 | asg | dan2: ah, cool. |
| 01:41.41 | dan2 | asg: I am the maintainer now :) |
| 01:41.47 | asg | dan2: :) nice |
| 01:41.51 | dan2 | asg: got tla on there? |
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| 01:41.59 | dan2 | asg: Xu transfered maintainership to me |
| 01:42.04 | asg | dan2: no, this is a minimal system atm |
| 01:42.19 | asg | dan2: you still contemplating the RH patches or what? |
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| 01:42.38 | alex__ | how do I do to see how my hd is full ? |
| 01:42.46 | gpm | alex__: df |
| 01:42.50 | gpm | alex__: or df -h |
| 01:42.51 | Q3Man | alex__, go to a shell prompt and type df -h |
| 01:42.52 | alex__ | thanks |
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| 01:43.25 | thomas_adam | !tell alex__ about faq |
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| 01:43.31 | gpm | nazi! |
| 01:43.36 | orospakr | What is the best pop3 server to install on debian testing? It's running a postfix MTA. :) |
| 01:43.44 | thomas_adam | !tell orospakr about ask |
| 01:43.46 | thomas_adam | !tell orospakr about polls |
| 01:43.48 | dan2 | asg: I am going to drop it due to RH kernel team now being our kernel maintainers :) |
| 01:43.51 | gpm | nazi! |
| 01:43.55 | asg | gpm: if you want to communicate with the bot, the '!' goes at the other end |
| 01:44.04 | gpm | asg: hehehehe |
| 01:44.05 | thomas_adam | !moron gpm |
| 01:44.06 | dpkg | gpm: You are moron #83 |
| 01:44.08 | asg | dan2: ah ... eeeek ...wha? |
| 01:44.12 | gpm | NAZI!!! |
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| 01:45.02 | orospakr | thomas_adam, *wrists slapped* :P |
| 01:45.19 | drakeman | !start a beer war |
| 01:45.22 | asg | thomas_adam: while wearing poof-balls ... kinky |
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| 01:45.33 | dan2 | asg: you obviously haven't caught up on D-D |
| 01:45.40 | thomas_adam | orospakr: If by pop3 server you mean MTA, exim is installed by default in Debian. |
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| 01:45.47 | thomas_adam | asg: heh. |
| 01:45.48 | asg | dan2: not recently, I've been dealing with some issues at work. |
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| 01:46.15 | dan2 | asg: Al Viro and William Irvin something or another are core kernel maintainers for debian now, we have assembled a team |
| 01:46.23 | dan2 | asg: Arjan also helping maintaining |
| 01:46.32 | orospakr | thomas_adam, nah, I blitzed exim4 and put on MTA. I was just curious which of the pop3 servers in the repos. would be best suited. But yeah, I guess that was a bad question to ask. :P |
| 01:46.42 | orospakr | thomas_adam, er, s/MTA/postfix |
| 01:46.44 | asg | dan2: ah, okay. Hopefully things will mellow out a bit from now on then. |
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| 01:46.58 | thomas_adam | orospakr: Then that was your own choice. |
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| 01:47.11 | gpm | for a strictly desktop system (i.e. any mail i get would be remote) i don't need an mta right? |
| 01:47.13 | dan2 | asg: it won't be as heavy, and say good bye to cramfs kernels |
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| 01:47.25 | asg | dan2: :) |
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| 01:47.50 | asg | gpm: you need an mta for cron to alert you when stuff breaks |
| 01:48.04 | asg | gpm: use nullmailer if you don't want a full MTA. |
| 01:48.13 | gpm | asg: thanks. |
| 01:48.15 | drakeman | oops |
| 01:48.22 | drakeman | bye all |
| 01:48.36 | asg | gpm: or ssmtp |
| 01:48.45 | drakeman | !assasinate everyone |
| 01:48.54 | asg | !burninate drakeman |
| 01:49.03 | drakeman | LOL |
| 01:50.03 | FieldySnuts | !yorkshiresmite drakeman |
| 01:50.20 | chitiri | !aliensmite drakeman |
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| 01:50.49 | tcsetattr | game over, man. |
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| 01:52.18 | gpm | i like how xmms basically ignores the window manager |
| 01:52.25 | ardy | wine question: I keep on getting the error "C:\\Windows" Invalid path? |
| 01:52.36 | ardy | I ran the configurator.... |
| 01:52.44 | gpm | ardy: 1. your setup is wrong. 2. type /j #wine |
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| 01:53.02 | gpm | oh wait, nobody's there |
| 01:53.03 | gpm | haha |
| 01:53.15 | gpm | ardy: getting wine to work is a pain. |
| 01:53.18 | thomas_adam | self.bed() |
| 01:53.20 | chitiri | gpm: you can set it up to use window manager decoration |
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| 01:53.36 | gpm | chitiri: interesting. it's in the docs i take it? |
| 01:53.52 | ardy | gpm: do you know anything about it? |
| 01:53.59 | chitiri | gpm: probably not |
| 01:54.02 | thomas_adam | ardy: ask in #wine. FFS. |
| 01:54.11 | gpm | thomas_adam: nobody's in #wine !!! |
| 01:54.12 | ardy | thomas_adam: no one is there |
| 01:54.17 | gpm | thomas_adam: smooth. |
| 01:54.18 | thomas_adam | hame. |
| 01:54.22 | alex__ | is it possible that doing a adduser returns command not found ? |
| 01:54.32 | thomas_adam | alex__: run it as root. |
| 01:54.32 | gpm | alex__: yes. apt-get it |
| 01:54.35 | gpm | oh that too |
| 01:54.37 | gpm | haha |
| 01:54.44 | gpm | thomas_adam: it is possible though, isn't it? |
| 01:54.50 | gpm | ardy: i know a little. |
| 01:54.53 | thomas_adam | What is? |
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| 01:55.11 | gpm | thomas_adam: to not have adduser installed but have a more or less functional system? |
| 01:55.26 | alex__ | thomas_adam: i am root though |
| 01:55.31 | gpm | ardy: but your error doesn't really lend itself to any suggestion...it's too vague. reconfigure. |
| 01:55.36 | thomas_adam | gpm: No, since it depends on debconf which is installed. |
| 01:55.43 | thomas_adam | alex__: apt-get install adduser |
| 01:55.49 | thomas_adam | alex__: And fix your system. |
| 01:55.53 | gpm | thomas_adam: how do you know debconf's on his system? |
| 01:55.59 | tcsetattr | maybe you have a screwed up $PATH |
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| 01:56.00 | ardy | gm: cool, so I ran the config program and set the C drive location and It created the windows directory... yest it complains about it not exisiting, why? |
| 01:56.07 | thomas_adam | gpm: sigh. |
| 01:56.09 | alex__ | thomas_adam: what do you mean fix my system ??? |
| 01:56.15 | sbetore | You guys would never believe what just happened |
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| 01:56.23 | thomas_adam | I am off to bed. I have no time for morons. |
| 01:56.30 | sbetore | thomas_adam: Wait. |
| 01:56.30 | dave | I have installed dhcpd, read the man pages on dhcpd,dhcpd.conf, and setup the /etc/dhcpd.conf file, and I still cannot get any internal machines to get an IP address. Anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 01:56.36 | gpm | thomas_adam: oh, i am so sorry! |
| 01:56.37 | somiaj | thomas_adam: welcome to the 'real' world...(;, night |
| 01:56.41 | alex__ | thomas_adam: I hope this is not for me |
| 01:56.47 | thomas_adam | sbetore: What;s up? |
| 01:56.48 | sbetore | I was walking around, being a cliche, when suddenly, not 1 meter from me, I see a badger |
| 01:56.52 | thomas_adam | alex__: Yes, it was. |
| 01:57.02 | thomas_adam | sbetore: hehehe. sussudio again. |
| 01:57.06 | tcsetattr | dave, have you looked at /etc/default/dhcp? |
| 01:57.24 | tcsetattr | and run /etc/init.d/dhcp restart |
| 01:57.25 | sbetore | thomas_adam: I started singing "badger badger badger (...)" and when I yelled MUSHROOOM!! it just ran like hell |
| 01:57.34 | dave | tcsetattr: aye. it's set to eth1 (my internal network address) |
| 01:57.36 | alex__ | thomas_adam: first I never said it was on MY system, I asked a simple question without refering to any system, second I am no more a moron than you are |
| 01:57.37 | gpm | sbetore: lol |
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| 01:57.38 | thomas_adam | sbetore: Badgers stink. |
| 01:57.46 | dave | tcsetattr: that's what it should be set to, aye? |
| 01:57.46 | sigjuice | hi |
| 01:57.52 | gpm | !badger |
| 01:57.53 | sbetore | thomas_adam: Aren |
| 01:57.56 | tcsetattr | dave, how about running /etc/init.d/dhcp restart |
| 01:57.58 | sbetore | thomas_adam: Aren't those skunks? |
| 01:58.05 | thomas_adam | sbetore: Nah. |
| 01:58.10 | sigjuice | where can I find a Sarge netinst image? |
| 01:58.20 | thomas_adam | !tell sigjuice about netinst |
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| 01:58.24 | dave | tcsetattr: that works, gives no errors in the syslog... starts dhcpd fine. |
| 01:58.31 | dave | tcsetattr: but the other computer still can't get an IP |
| 01:58.51 | sbetore | thomas_adam: Anyway, I got sorta scared, because those things are nasty aggressive buggers |
| 01:59.00 | alex__ | thomas_adam: and I think to lower himself to saying that to somebody is to be even more stupid than the person in question |
| 01:59.03 | sigjuice | woody images is all I can find |
| 01:59.06 | gpm | sbetore: 'cause they've been badgered so much! |
| 01:59.14 | sbetore | gpm: Oh, ha :P |
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| 01:59.31 | sbetore | BADGERS? BADGERS??? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' BADGERS!!! |
| 01:59.35 | gpm | sbetore: seriously! that's where the word came from. people used to badger badgers back before they were called badgers. |
| 01:59.39 | hugo | mushroom |
| 01:59.40 | asg | sigjuice: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 01:59.57 | tcsetattr | dave, try running "tcpdump -i eth1 -s 2000 -n port 67 or port 68" then tell the client to try again, and watch the packets |
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| 02:00.39 | dave | tcsetattr: okies. One sec, installing tcpdump |
| 02:00.51 | sigjuice | asg: thanks. That's what I wanted. |
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| 02:00.57 | asg | sigjuice: you're welcome |
| 02:01.48 | dave | tcsetattr: both port 67 and 68 show nothing while it's trying to renew (running tcpdump on the dhcp server, not on the other computer) |
| 02:02.05 | willtmo | Is it possible that my Xserver doesn't work because I'm missing some fonts in the /usr/lib/X11/fonts directory ? if so where would I get them ? I tried looking on google without success. |
| 02:02.09 | dave | tcsetattr: eth1 enters promiscous mode an all though. |
| 02:02.12 | tcsetattr | dave, maybe you are dropping the packets... check your iptables rules |
| 02:02.28 | dave | tcsetattr: that's entirely possible. I need to allow port 67 and 68? |
| 02:02.34 | lazarus | alex__: did you read the word "clean" in 'man apt-get'? |
| 02:02.43 | tcsetattr | on the dhcp server, you have to allow incoming packets with source address 0.0.0.0 and destination address 255.255.255.255 (that's what DHCP users before it knows anything) |
| 02:02.49 | tcsetattr | s/users/uses/ |
| 02:03.17 | tcsetattr | udp/67 should be enough. but tcp/67 and udp/68 and tcp/68 are related to it somehow |
| 02:03.31 | dave | tcsetattr: how do I list my IPTABLES rules? |
| 02:03.43 | asg | dave: iptables -L |
| 02:03.55 | alex__ | lazarus: yes ok, I think I understand now, basically it is advised to do an apt-get clean after an apt-get upgrade and from time to time an apt-get autoclean |
| 02:04.10 | lazarus | alex__: reverse autoclean and clean |
| 02:04.50 | tcsetattr | dave, the question that must be asked now ... are you sure the hub and cables and NICs and drivers are good? |
| 02:05.16 | lazarus | alex__: du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 02:05.34 | lazarus | alex__: that's what sapce "clean" will "buy" you |
| 02:05.45 | lazarus | alex__: space |
| 02:05.46 | alex__ | thanks a lot |
| 02:06.13 | dave | tcsetattr: you there? |
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| 02:06.32 | lazarus | alex__: do a 'df /var' before and after, to see the contrast too |
| 02:06.39 | dave | tcsetaddr: well, I guess dropping my firewall was bad :P |
| 02:06.45 | alex__ | I have |
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| 02:06.56 | alex__ | actually there is still 44k I can't get rid of |
| 02:07.09 | tcsetattr | dave, what happened? |
| 02:07.15 | lazarus | alex__: 44k is rather tiny, it might be your fs |
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| 02:07.20 | dave | tcsetaddr: tcsetattr: stopping the firewall set all IPTABLES rules to deny |
| 02:07.22 | alex__ | i see |
| 02:07.27 | LSorensen | lazarus: could be the dirs |
| 02:07.33 | dave | tcsetaddr: which was bad for say... IRC :P |
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| 02:07.38 | tcsetattr | dave, I guess you missed the part where I said:> dave, the question that must be asked now ... are you sure the hub and cables and NICs and+drivers are good? |
| 02:07.51 | dave | tcsetattr: aye, I missed that one. The cables, NICs and drivers are good |
| 02:07.54 | fukizzat | hello friends, need some assistance setting up NFS server.. i did it like the HOWTO but can't connect to it |
| 02:07.59 | dave | tcsetattr: well, I'm sure the cables and hub and drivers are good |
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| 02:08.04 | Lobezno | hi |
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| 02:08.10 | dave | tcsetattr: there's a VERY small chance the internal NIC on my server machine is bad... |
| 02:08.11 | Lobezno | does someone here uses puredata? |
| 02:08.15 | alex__ | lazarus: so and what is that space ? old files and stuff I don't need anymore that are put there when I upgrade ? |
| 02:08.27 | lazarus | alex__: 02:07 <LSorensen> lazarus: could be the dirs |
| 02:08.27 | dave | tcsetattr: but it's very unlikely. I just haven't tested it yet today. It loaded the modules into the kernel and looked a-o-k. |
| 02:08.34 | dan2 | asg: you there? |
| 02:08.38 | alex__ | Lobezno: I do |
| 02:08.39 | raju | How do I know if my laptop is using apm or acpi? |
| 02:08.39 | deadcat | my mouse in 2.6 is crazily fast. even xset m 1/10 4 still seem fast. any way to slow the f down? |
| 02:08.44 | dave | tcsetattr: I think one of my iptables rules is bad. I have a IPMASQ firewall running |
| 02:08.45 | samuel | sup all |
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| 02:08.48 | asg | dan2: yeah, getting ready to leave though |
| 02:08.55 | Lobezno | alex__, I have problem during external compilation |
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| 02:09.05 | Lobezno | alex__, I would like somebody to help me... |
| 02:09.05 | tcsetattr | dave, it would be interesting to know if it works if you set a static address on the client |
| 02:09.12 | lazarus | alex__: or did you mean... /var/cache/apt/archives/ is the staging area that apt-get uses when it fetches .debs, before dpkg unpacks them |
| 02:09.14 | dan2 | asg: hold on |
| 02:09.17 | dave | tcsetattr: lemme do that |
| 02:09.20 | alex__ | Lobezno: oops that is different from merely using pd :) |
| 02:09.21 | fukizzat | is NFS the best way to share files between linux boxes on a LAN? |
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| 02:09.27 | deadcat | fukizzat: ya. |
| 02:09.29 | fukizzat | I know i could set up samba on server and smbmount on client but that seems like alot of extra complexity.. |
| 02:09.40 | dan2 | asg: http://mirrorlynx.com/~dan/apt-move-4.2.22.tar.gz test it out would ya? |
| 02:09.41 | Lobezno | alex__, then you dont use externals? |
| 02:09.43 | asg | fukizzat: you could always scp files around |
| 02:09.55 | LSorensen | fukizzat: it's the simplest. I don't think anyone would consider NFS the best choice. |
| 02:09.59 | deadcat | fukizzat: if you want encryption. ssh+nfs |
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| 02:10.02 | samuel | im trying to create a user interface on windows... something for the desktop... somebody pointed out ms access to me but i need some help - anyone know of any office chat rooms around in other servers perhaps? |
| 02:10.15 | dave | tcsetattr: All incoming connections on eth1 are forwarding on, I *think* |
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| 02:10.26 | fukizzat | well I am trying to get nfs working and I followed the HOWTO but i can't connect to it |
| 02:10.41 | dave | tcsetattr: not exactly sure how to read the IPTABLES rules. |
| 02:10.41 | lazarus | fukizzat: if you want to mount a remote dir, nfs, if you just want to move a file or two, scp |
| 02:10.41 | asg | dan2: you want me to test the build? |
| 02:10.43 | dan2 | asg: mm Quizno's subs are great |
| 02:10.44 | dan2 | asg: yes |
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| 02:10.55 | asg | dan2: yeah, Quizzies are tasty |
| 02:10.56 | lazarus | fukizzat: "connect"? you mean "mount"? |
| 02:10.56 | fukizzat | lazarus, yes i want it mounted its my file server |
| 02:10.58 | alex__ | Lobezno: I do but I rarely compile them |
| 02:11.02 | fukizzat | yes mount sorry |
| 02:11.03 | dan2 | asg: build; DESTDIR=blah install, DESTDIR=blah uninstall |
| 02:11.07 | dan2 | asg: ok? :) |
| 02:11.08 | alex__ | Lobezno: but ask anyway, what is the problem |
| 02:11.19 | Lobezno | alex__, then how you use it if you didnt compile them? |
| 02:11.30 | mentor | samuel: You can check channels on this network using your IRC clients channel listing; asking about other channels and other networks is way off topic. |
| 02:11.32 | tcsetattr | dave, you can use iptables -L -v to see the count of matched packets for each rule, then do your DHCP thing, and iptables -L -v again to see which counters increased. Or add -j LOG rules for all your DROP and REJECT rules... |
| 02:11.37 | lazarus | fukizzat: presuming you read the NFS section of 'man mount' and followed the options listed there, what error message did you get? |
| 02:11.37 | alex__ | lazarus: that is a bit odd, why does apt-get rid of those itself after use ? |
| 02:11.50 | asg | dan2: k, hang on |
| 02:11.52 | fukizzat | like : mount 192.168.1.100:/md0 /mnt/pubshare -o nfsvers=2 |
| 02:11.53 | fukizzat | it gives me permission denied |
| 02:11.54 | lazarus | alex__: many people want them left around |
| 02:12.08 | dave | tcsetattr: I think what might be happening is the DHCP requests are getting forwarded to the eth0 card... not sure |
| 02:12.16 | alex__ | Lobezno: the ones I have used so far have either been precompiled or I did it yes |
| 02:12.22 | fukizzat | yes i read man page for mount, exports, nfs, nfsd etc |
| 02:12.38 | lazarus | alex__: example, you are running testing or sid, and a package upgrades to something hideously broken. having the old deb to reinstall can be a lifesaver |
| 02:12.41 | deadcat | fukizzat: sudo |
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| 02:12.59 | alex__ | lazarus: i see |
| 02:13.05 | Ramona | do any of you know what module/script does !quote for eggdrop? |
| 02:13.11 | dave | tcsetattr: okay. Default policy is to accept any packet that's incoming... |
| 02:13.19 | lazarus | alex__: especially if it was something that broke networking so you *can't* fetch an old copy from some repository |
| 02:13.33 | alex__ | lazarus: lol |
| 02:13.42 | lazarus | alex__: it's happened, heh |
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| 02:14.09 | dave | tcsetattr: hmm... Okay, I set the ip address manually on the client computer. I cannot ping that computer, even after I shut its firewall down. |
| 02:14.09 | samuel | ok, something on topic... anyone know what sort of programing language is easy to use - sorto quick wysiwyg to build a ui on a linux desktop - basically just something to launch programs |
| 02:14.12 | asg | dan2: make uninstall left some cruft but otherwise okay. |
| 02:14.13 | ygnome | lazarus: u have to watch it though, it can fill the disk. |
| 02:14.15 | Francisco | heh... Windows pains :s |
| 02:14.35 | dan2 | asg: it probably left the dirs, but thats fine |
| 02:14.37 | mentor | samuel: WYSIWYG editor is independent of language. |
| 02:14.56 | asg | dan2: yeah, looks like it. Nice catch on missing deps during ./configure btw |
| 02:15.06 | dan2 | asg: np |
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| 02:15.07 | fukizzat | deadcat, i just apt-get sudo and look at man page, im not sure how this solves my problem |
| 02:15.08 | lazarus | alex__: if you really want to change the default behaviour, you can (like much of linux) ... man 5 apt.conf for an explanation how |
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| 02:15.16 | tcsetattr | dave, you can also try pinging the other way, with tcpdump running (tcpdump -i eth1 arp or icmp) to see if you can get any incoming packets. but it sounds like all bad news so far |
| 02:15.18 | dan2 | asg: autotools isn't that hard to learn |
| 02:15.26 | dave | tcsetattr: Just did that. Still nothing |
| 02:15.30 | gram | does anybody know how to set emacs shortcuts in gtk2? |
| 02:15.36 | asg | dan2: no, haven't had to yet though :) |
| 02:15.39 | dan2 | asg: this new build system far deprecates the old one |
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| 02:15.45 | dave | tcsetattr: I'm pretty sure the hardware is good though. The only untested hardware is the internal NIC in my server. |
| 02:15.48 | asg | dan2: yeah |
| 02:15.51 | dan2 | asg: apt-get source apt-move and look at that ugly makefile |
| 02:15.58 | lazarus | ygnome: yeah, i run with very little "wiggle room" on most of my systems |
| 02:15.58 | fukizzat | deadcat, also do i do that on client or server |
| 02:16.01 | asg | dan2: hehe |
| 02:16.08 | alex__ | lazarus: I would not dare |
| 02:16.19 | dan2 | asg: this makes less hassle and is brainless to package |
| 02:16.24 | lazarus | alex__: wise if you're not fluent :) |
| 02:16.24 | dave | tcsetattr: any way to drop all iptables rules and allow all incoming connections? |
| 02:16.30 | samuel | mentor: any wysiwyg editors on linux that might use cpp? |
| 02:16.31 | asg | dan2: nice |
| 02:16.51 | samuel | mentor: or tcl/tk |
| 02:16.57 | thyhorror | Question - I have a movie file that doesn't play the sound , does anyone know what i need to play the "ac3filter" audio ? like what codec ? |
| 02:16.59 | lazarus | alex__: still, it's nice to know you *can* configure so many things (as you grow into your linux expertness) |
| 02:17.02 | dan2 | asg: there is nothing like a good configure script |
| 02:17.14 | ygnome | lazarus: I just remembered, and ran apt-get clean. Got back over 1GB... |
| 02:17.16 | mentor | ~tell samuel about search |
| 02:17.20 | dan2 | asg: hmm, I bet the apt-move scripts are based around prefix /usr |
| 02:17.20 | asg | dan2: true, I've become lazy because of them |
| 02:17.22 | lazarus | ygnome: :) |
| 02:17.23 | mentor | samuel: Not sure, I don't do much GUI work. |
| 02:17.34 | dave | tcsetattr: for what it's worth, under ifconfig eth1 shows no recieved or sent packets... but a billion dropped packets. |
| 02:17.42 | asg | dan2: well, I --prefix=/tmp/apt-move (here for testing) |
| 02:17.52 | ight808 | hello, I just installed debian 3.0 rev one, and I cannot connect to internet with that computer. what file / directory do I go into to adjust setting for my cable modem to connect to internet? because i have not been able to get into a gui config screen any which way I jump scream or holler. |
| 02:17.54 | dan2 | asg: I guess Ill make some sort of apt-move.in so it can change it to the prefix |
| 02:18.18 | lazarus | dan2: back when i ran apt-move regularly (long before a major rewrite btw) it had no troubles with my repositories being under /var |
| 02:18.23 | mentor | ight808: What type is your cable modem? PPPoE? Router? |
| 02:18.25 | asg | dan2: can't you do that in debian/rules ? |
| 02:18.25 | florist | ight808: dhcp? |
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| 02:18.43 | fukizzat | how do i restart nfsd deamon? |
| 02:18.48 | dan2 | asg: yes, but its best if I use the configure script since the prefix can then be dynamically written with make |
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| 02:18.57 | lazarus | fukizzat: /etc/init.d/nfs-common restart ? :) |
| 02:18.57 | fukizzat | daemon |
| 02:18.57 | dan2 | asg: its the best way to handle it |
| 02:18.58 | asg | dan2: ah, I see. |
| 02:18.59 | ight808 | router but its in a dmz |
| 02:18.59 | ygnome | ight808: got network? ping route etc... |
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| 02:19.26 | ight808 | sorry guys I m a total newb |
| 02:19.34 | ight808 | how do I ping |
| 02:19.42 | florist | ight808: do u've an ip address? gateway? |
| 02:19.44 | lazarus | fukizzat: /etc/init.d/portmap and networking may also be worth restarting, if you really think you've changed many things |
| 02:19.55 | lazarus | ight808: 'man ping' |
| 02:20.06 | fukizzat | mine was nfs-user-server but u helped me find it :) |
| 02:20.16 | lazarus | ight808: 'man command-name-here' is your friend |
| 02:20.17 | fukizzat | i think cuz i didnt install the kernelspace one |
| 02:20.31 | mentor | ight808: How's the DMZ set up? What firewall do you have? |
| 02:20.32 | dan2 | asg: even if it is a few sed switches |
| 02:20.36 | ygnome | ight808: /sbin/ifconfig lists configured interfaces |
| 02:20.40 | mentor | ight808: man ping |
| 02:20.42 | fukizzat | or is that my problem that i didnt install kernel nfs |
| 02:20.48 | dan2 | asg: I bet I can hack at automake so it will use standard configure variable |
| 02:20.57 | asg | dan2: yeah |
| 02:20.58 | lazarus | fukizzat: okay, one other "gotcha" ... *if* you use the kernelspace one, you'll of course need support for it in your kernel (btw, i'd suggest version3, ,not 4 yet) |
| 02:21.07 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: medal me |
| 02:21.10 | asg | dan2: well, I need some sleep. See you tomorrow |
| 02:21.20 | lazarus | fukizzat: i always use the kernel one, but i also compile my kernels with that in mind |
| 02:21.30 | ight808 | ok, so I got to find man ping and attempt to ping yahoo or something first right |
| 02:21.32 | ight808 | dmz de-militarized zone no firewall no routing just straight through |
| 02:21.35 | dan2 | asg: adious |
| 02:21.41 | fukizzat | lazarus, i've had mixed luck compiling kernel so i was hoping to avoid that |
| 02:21.48 | lazarus | ight808: you just type "man ping" and press enter |
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| 02:21.57 | dave | tcsetattr: you there? |
| 02:22.00 | lazarus | ight808: "ping yahoo.com" might be all you need |
| 02:22.09 | lazarus | fukizzat: nod |
| 02:22.21 | Neemz | hey folks do you know of a neat little php webblog ? |
| 02:22.22 | mentor | ~dmz |
| 02:22.23 | apt | well, dmz is De-militarized Zone, or usually a separate network that has limited access to your internal systems and is accessible in limited ways from untrusted networks like the internet as well |
| 02:22.23 | ight808 | ok computer is in other room I will be back in a minute with results |
| 02:22.31 | pablo_ | how do i make gdm autenticate against a nt4 domain? or a w2000 ad domain? |
| 02:22.37 | alex__ | lazarus: sure it is |
| 02:22.45 | dave | Anyone know why ifconfig shows all packets on eth1 as dropped? |
| 02:23.45 | florist | dave: have u configured ur wireless card properly? |
| 02:24.03 | FieldySnuts | !ur |
| 02:24.04 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. |
| 02:24.14 | lazarus | !u |
| 02:24.14 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 |
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| 02:24.32 | FieldySnuts | !britsmite sussudio |
| 02:24.58 | fukizzat | lazarus, I'm still getting permission denied. my /etc/exports has this line: |
| 02:25.01 | fukizzat | /home/tommy *(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=0,anongid=0) |
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| 02:25.43 | lazarus | fukizzat: that "*" scares me :) |
| 02:25.51 | fukizzat | me too but im testing |
| 02:26.18 | lazarus | fukizzat: run /usr/sbin/exportfs on the server end as root |
| 02:26.20 | dave | florist: it's a second 10/100 card, and I think so, but not sure. |
| 02:26.34 | lazarus | fukizzat: be sure it's really listing it |
| 02:26.36 | florist | fukizzat: make sure that your uids and gids are the same on both computers |
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| 02:27.31 | florist | dave: make sure the gateway is set properly. what does /sbin/route show? |
| 02:28.32 | dave | florist: 192.168.0.0. uses eth1 and 68.43.28.0 uses eth0 default uses gateway cdnt01-a-rtr.pl |
| 02:28.49 | fukizzat | lazarus, exportfs only shows up in /lib/modules/2.5.../kernel it;s a directory not a command |
| 02:28.52 | lazarus | fukizzat: something to change later, ,those uid/gids are *root* |
| 02:28.52 | Drizzt321|laptop | I recently got a dvd+/-rw which also has cdburning capabilities, and I am trying to use it with cdrecord to burn a cd, however it doesn't fully work. it gets to where it writes the pregap and begins to burn the actual data, but it just keeps spinning up and down. any ideas? I can burn perfectly well with growisofs and so on. |
| 02:28.55 | dave | florist: gateway for 192.168.0.0 is * |
| 02:29.15 | lazarus | fukizzat: nfs-kernel-server: /usr/sbin/exportfs |
| 02:29.28 | fukizzat | lazarus, and i did updatedb a few mins ago |
| 02:29.32 | lazarus | fukizzat: i'm not sure what the userspace equivalent package is |
| 02:29.35 | fukizzat | ah |
| 02:29.53 | lazarus | !find exportfs |
| 02:29.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'exportfs' (4 shown; 13 total): (/usr/sbin/exportfs) in net/nfs-kernel-server ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.6-1-k7/kernel/fs/exportfs/exportfs.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.6-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.5-1-k7/kernel/fs/exportfs/exportfs.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.6-1-686/kernel/fs/exportfs/exportfs.ko) in base/kernel-image-2.6.6-1-686. |
| 02:30.01 | fukizzat | so if i install the kernel-server i have to recompile? |
| 02:30.15 | florist | dave: may be that is why it is not working. |
| 02:30.24 | lazarus | fukizzat: well, you need to reread the howto, probably, or parts of it :) |
| 02:30.27 | florist | dave: you need a gateway. |
| 02:30.44 | lazarus | fukizzat: basically, ,you'll want to install any nfs-ish modules that are needed, if you have a debian install kernel |
| 02:31.04 | dave | florist: it's just all on one hub... |
| 02:31.09 | dave | florist: what would I set for the gateway? |
| 02:31.10 | lazarus | !find bin/exportfs |
| 02:31.14 | tcsetattr | I'm still here, dave... had to take a bathroom break |
| 02:31.15 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/exportfs' (1 shown): (/usr/sbin/exportfs) in net/nfs-kernel-server. |
| 02:31.25 | florist | dave: same as your eth0 card? |
| 02:31.31 | tcsetattr | if you can't ping on the LAN, the gateway is irrelevant |
| 02:31.35 | dave | tcsetattr: no problem. |
| 02:31.49 | lazarus | fukizzat: i've never used userspace nfs, but someone here may have |
| 02:31.53 | dave | tcsetattr: well, ifconfig shows eth1 as dropping every packet that comes in |
| 02:31.56 | florist | fukizzat: check if your kernel config has config_nfs_fs and config_nfsd set to y |
| 02:32.01 | fukizzat | lazarus, do i need to uninstall nfs userspace |
| 02:32.01 | fukizzat | before i install kernel |
| 02:32.01 | fukizzat | version |
| 02:32.02 | dave | tcsetattr: some bejillion of them |
| 02:32.16 | lazarus | fukizzat: probably would be safest |
| 02:32.28 | tcsetattr | you mean this line: RX packets:246706585 errors:4152 dropped:67222 overruns:3492 frame:0 |
| 02:32.30 | fukizzat | florist, can you please indicate how i check kernel config |
| 02:32.35 | tcsetattr | has packets == dropped ? |
| 02:32.38 | dave | tcsetattr: aye. |
| 02:32.46 | tcsetattr | that can't be good |
| 02:32.47 | florist | fukizzat: /boot/config- |
| 02:32.52 | lazarus | fukizzat: grep -i NFS /boot/config-* |
| 02:32.57 | florist | fukizzat append it with kernel version... |
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| 02:33.03 | fukizzat | thx |
| 02:33.03 | dave | tcsetattr: there's no RX or TX packets. TX packets are all errors. RX packets are all dropped |
| 02:33.27 | lazarus | fukizzat: =Y means yes in the kernel, =M means it's a module and you'll need to modprobe it |
| 02:33.39 | tcsetattr | check your kernel log with dmesg, see if it says anything about those dropped packets |
| 02:33.49 | fukizzat | it had all Y and two were M |
| 02:34.02 | florist | dave: what does /sbin/ifconfig show for inet addr:? |
| 02:34.03 | fukizzat | so i'm probably in good shape |
| 02:34.13 | fukizzat | but i'll have to modprobe the other two, every time I boot ? |
| 02:34.24 | florist | fukizzat: yes, you can then run nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common |
| 02:34.24 | lazarus | fukizzat: those that are M, they probably will not be active until you modprobe them |
| 02:34.26 | dave | florist: 192.168.0.1 as set by myself. |
| 02:34.39 | lazarus | fukizzat: no, you can automate it once you get things working |
| 02:34.50 | fukizzat | by putting a script in /etc/init.d ? |
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| 02:34.59 | florist | dave: what is you hub ip? |
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| 02:35.01 | lazarus | fukizzat: ls /etc/modu* :) edit the right file there :) |
| 02:35.05 | dave | tcsetattr: I have a bunch of NETDEV watchdog: eth1: transmit timed out. |
| 02:35.12 | dave | florist: Hubs don't have ips... |
| 02:35.21 | lazarus | fukizzat: /etc/modules possibly |
| 02:35.22 | florist | dave: err... sorry i thought it was a router. |
| 02:35.23 | dave | florist: I don't think. Doesn't it just split the signal? |
| 02:35.28 | fukizzat | cool thx brb |
| 02:35.33 | dave | florist: no problem. Yeah, it's just a straight 10/100 switch |
| 02:35.39 | tcsetattr | if your "hub" is a managed switch it can ahve its own IP address |
| 02:35.58 | dave | tcsetaddr: it's not managed. |
| 02:36.05 | peterS | tcsetattr: there you go, confusing the n00bs |
| 02:36.10 | dave | tcsetaddr: it's just a simple $20 linksys 10/100 switch :P |
| 02:36.13 | tcsetattr | a true _hub_ (not switch) is just a signal repeater |
| 02:36.24 | tcsetattr | the $20 linksys switch is somewhere in between "dumb hub" and "managed switch" |
| 02:36.25 | dave | tcsetaddr: Nothing else, only those NETDEV watchdog warnings... |
| 02:36.36 | tcsetattr | those NETDEV watchdog warnings are probably pointing at the real problem. |
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| 02:36.59 | dave | tcsetattr: I would assume so. Do those generally indicate a hardware problem? |
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| 02:37.06 | tcsetattr | I don't know... |
| 02:37.09 | tcsetattr | dpkg, netdev watchdog |
| 02:37.10 | dpkg | tcsetattr: are you smoking crack? |
| 02:37.15 | tcsetattr | heh |
| 02:37.17 | dave | tcsetattr: lol |
| 02:37.34 | tcsetattr | what kind of card is eth1? |
| 02:37.49 | dave | tcsetattr: Linksys 10/100 PCI card. Uses tulip driver. |
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| 02:37.58 | ight808 | ok I'm back, the results of the ping test are, no ping to yahoo and no ping to router |
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| 02:38.20 | fukizzat | what's the best way to do name resolution between a couple of boxes. windows can always see my linux box by hostname but other linux box can't |
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| 02:38.41 | fukizzat | like if I go "ping aristotle" from windows it resolves but from another linux box it doesnt |
| 02:38.41 | lazarus | fukizzat: just a box or two? add an entry to /etc/hosts |
| 02:38.41 | dave | tcsetattr: Uses a Lite-On EEPROM |
| 02:38.42 | angeles | dpkg: unf |
| 02:38.43 | dpkg | hmm... unf is the Universal Noise of Frustration, it is also washort's favourite word, after heh . something else related to pr0n movies Universal Noise of Fucking (UNF!!) |
| 02:38.52 | ygnome | ight808: k. what does sbin/ifconfig say? |
| 02:38.59 | kojack27FL | i am getting dependcy problems which prevent configuration of x-window system. I dont get th is. Can anyone help |
| 02:39.01 | angeles | :D |
| 02:39.02 | fukizzat | lazarus, the ip changes dhcp |
| 02:39.12 | fukizzat | i guess i could assign it permanently tho huh |
| 02:39.14 | lazarus | fukizzat: if you want to manage an entire domain, then something like bind9 |
| 02:39.29 | tcsetattr | maybe you should try using mii-tool to check the link.. |
| 02:39.32 | fukizzat | really i want something easy & simple |
| 02:39.36 | dave | tcsetattr: about my /etc/network/interfaces... |
| 02:39.45 | ight808 | brb |
| 02:39.57 | lazarus | fukizzat: you run your own dhcp daemon? you can set it there, even on a per-nic-mac basis |
| 02:40.01 | fukizzat | i am challenging myself plenty with my bold agenda to replace MS on all my boxes |
| 02:40.07 | anguila | I compiled kernel 2.6.6, and i cant hear the bell of console, y try to put echo -e "\a" and press the tab and others things and can't hear it, and the all programs which programs use the beep i can't hear it.. somebody know when i can put this console beep? |
| 02:40.10 | lazarus | fukizzat: new to linux? |
| 02:40.19 | florist | fukizzat: what assigns the ip address? your router? |
| 02:40.30 | fukizzat | lazarus, not really but new to debian. the router assigns addresses yes |
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| 02:40.36 | dave | tcsetattr: I have auto eth1 and iface eth1 inet static and address 192.168.0.1 and netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 02:40.40 | dave | tcsetattr: is that correct? |
| 02:40.57 | Drizzt321|laptop | I'm having trouble burning a cd-r on a dvd burner/cd burner, cdrecord hangs when it starts burning and the drive spins up and down over and over until I kill it. any help please? |
| 02:41.04 | tcsetattr | anguila, try adjusting the frequency and length of beeps: setterm -bfreq 500 -blength 50 |
| 02:41.06 | florist | fukizzat: then as lazarus said you can assign ip addresses on a per-nic-basis in your router configuration. then have entry in /etc/hosts |
| 02:41.15 | tcsetattr | dave, that looks fine |
| 02:41.16 | fukizzat | lazarus, no i have been dabbling with linux for a couple of years but there is so much to learn.. lately i have committed to removeing ms entirely.. |
| 02:41.18 | lazarus | fukizzat: networking is something each distro handles a tiny bit uniquely btw :/ |
| 02:41.36 | dave | tcsetattr: I'm going to reset my networking |
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| 02:41.40 | redyuck | .cl |
| 02:41.41 | dave | tcsetattr: brb |
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| 02:41.45 | lazarus | fukizzat: i like debian's, but then, we're in #debian so that figures, heh |
| 02:41.51 | angeles | i found that in debian sarge it likes to assign the first eth device as default gateway |
| 02:41.55 | fukizzat | florist, that sounds like a plan.. |
| 02:42.04 | angeles | even though you tell it not to |
| 02:42.10 | anguila | tcsetattr, this not work :( |
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| 02:42.22 | florist | fukizzat: i am wondering how windows gets the name resolved... |
| 02:42.34 | dave | tcsetattr: no luck :( |
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| 02:42.47 | tcsetattr | dave, what does mii-tool say? (or mii-diag) |
| 02:42.58 | fukizzat | florist, its always been that way.. i think samba uses WINS? |
| 02:43.11 | fukizzat | florist, i mean on all my boxes its always been that way |
| 02:43.16 | dave | tcsetattr: eth1: no link |
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| 02:43.49 | tcsetattr | well, that's bad :) |
| 02:43.53 | dave | tcsetattr: LOL |
| 02:43.53 | sanmarcos | how can I find out what depends on X package? (not what x package depends on) |
| 02:43.56 | tcsetattr | do you even have any LEDs lit? |
| 02:44.00 | dave | tcsetattr: yup |
| 02:44.04 | dave | tcsetattr: I do on the hub |
| 02:44.09 | lazarus | sanmarcos: apt-cache showpkg foo |
| 02:44.13 | dave | tcsetattr: and the card |
| 02:44.23 | fukizzat | lazarus, yes i was a rh user since about rh v6 but debian is definitely making me learn alot more, which in the long run is a good thing. just having some growing pains |
| 02:44.24 | lazarus | sanmarcos: you want 'reverse depends' |
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| 02:44.43 | lazarus | fukizzat: you seem to be handling it well |
| 02:44.58 | tcsetattr | dave, can you unload and reload the tulip module |
| 02:45.00 | dave | tcsetattr: no idea which lights on the card.. but I have link, activity, and 100MBS on the hub for tha card |
| 02:45.05 | dave | tcsetattr: sure. 1 sec |
| 02:45.14 | mwilson | mickeyks: You here? |
| 02:45.20 | fukizzat | lazarus, i have no formal training in computers so im very pleased any time i do anyting right |
| 02:45.32 | mickeyks | mwilson: hey, was in another window |
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| 02:45.40 | lazarus | fukizzat: you can self-train, many here are proof :) |
| 02:45.47 | dave | tcsetattr: done with rmmod and insmod |
| 02:45.56 | mwilson | mickeyks: How'd it turn out? Since you said "window", I assume X is working again? :) |
| 02:46.00 | tcsetattr | and mii-tool now... |
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| 02:46.12 | fukizzat | lazarus, got kernel version installed, and ran exportfs, still can't connect |
| 02:46.21 | lazarus | fukizzat: just remember the man pages, doc dirs (lynx /usr/share/doc/foo/) and howtos are your friends :) |
| 02:46.21 | fukizzat | permission denied |
| 02:46.25 | dave | tcsetattr: 10 Mbit, half-duplex, link ok |
| 02:46.30 | lazarus | fukizzat: okay, let's back up |
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| 02:46.46 | dave | tcsetattr: which is really wierd... |
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| 02:46.51 | mickeyks | mwilson: yeah. the upgrade hadn't installed xserver-xfree86 and a couple other basics, but once i told apt to do it, seems to be ok |
| 02:46.52 | lazarus | fukizzat: exportfs .. i wanted you to run that to *confirm* it was exporting it ... is it? |
| 02:47.10 | mickeyks | mwilson: haven't tried rebooting, but i guess i shouldn't have to... |
| 02:47.22 | fukizzat | lazarus, it said /mnt/md0 <world> |
| 02:47.25 | tcsetattr | dave, mii-diag will give a little more info tham mii-tool |
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| 02:47.43 | mwilson | mickeyks: Hey, I imagine the whacked-out way that upgrade went could account for that. How does it feel to have survived? |
| 02:47.57 | lazarus | fukizzat: once you get the server end definitely exporting the dir you want, to the host(s) you want, then we can look at your client ed |
| 02:48.03 | dave | tcsetattr: installing |
| 02:48.09 | lazarus | end |
| 02:48.15 | sanmarcos | one question, anybody using sarge can cat /etc/debian-version, I need to see the diff between sid and sarge |
| 02:48.17 | angeles | whats #DEL# next to a listkeys entry on dpkg ? |
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| 02:48.20 | fukizzat | lazarus, /mnt/md0 was the dir i wanted |
| 02:48.24 | lazarus | sanmarcos: none |
| 02:48.38 | angeles | cat: /etc/debian-version: No such file or directory |
| 02:48.39 | mickeyks | mwilson: Feels great! i can already see differences, too...gaim and fluxbox are both much more feature-rich now |
| 02:48.42 | sanmarcos | lazarus: then how are you supposed to know? by grepping sources.list I guess |
| 02:48.50 | angeles | lol |
| 02:48.56 | dave | tcsetattr: it's in fixed speed mode, not autonegotiate. |
| 02:49.00 | sanmarcos | angeles, debian_version |
| 02:49.01 | lazarus | ls /etc/debian_version btw, not - |
| 02:49.03 | dave | tcsetattr: 10mbs, half duplex |
| 02:49.13 | angeles | testing/unstable |
| 02:49.20 | sanmarcos | i know but most distros use - instead of _ |
| 02:49.20 | dave | tcsetattr: note: there is currently no link light on the hub. |
| 02:49.24 | angeles | yeah i knew that too *slaps* |
| 02:49.26 | tcsetattr | dave, that's better than "no link"... try to get some packets through now |
| 02:49.26 | mwilson | sanmarcos: No, you're supposed to know because you're supposed to have enough on the ball to know whether you've put Sarge or Sid on the box. |
| 02:49.26 | lazarus | sanmarcos: right. recall that neither sarge nor sid are released yet |
| 02:49.45 | sanmarcos | mwilson: I know, but a friend doesnt, thats what im trying to see :).. and well yeah.. |
| 02:49.49 | sanmarcos | lazarus: aha |
| 02:49.51 | fukizzat | lazarus, if i can ever get this working i think my next big task is to configure yp/ NIS |
| 02:49.56 | florist | fukizzat: what about your hosts.deny file? |
| 02:49.57 | lazarus | fukizzat: so, to your view of things, it looks like the server end is okay? |
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| 02:50.02 | tcsetattr | I like this a lot better when it was a DHCP configuration question, this "link down" stuff sucks |
| 02:50.05 | dave | tcsetattr: okay, should I ifconfig eth1 up? |
| 02:50.07 | fukizzat | hosts.deny is empty |
| 02:50.10 | tcsetattr | ifup eth1 |
| 02:50.14 | sanmarcos | thanks |
| 02:50.14 | florist | fukizzat: ok. just checking. |
| 02:50.16 | mwilson | mickeyks: Well, I won't talk about your taste in choosing flux, but gaim is nice enough. |
| 02:50.21 | angeles | sanmarcos: what is it on sid? |
| 02:50.31 | fukizzat | iptables / ipchains does not appear to be running in ps -aux |
| 02:50.38 | mickeyks | mwilson: it's a slow box. flux is fast. what do you use? |
| 02:50.40 | fukizzat | i can ping hte box |
| 02:50.42 | florist | fukizzat: rpcinfo -p? |
| 02:50.43 | lazarus | sarge |
| 02:50.44 | sanmarcos | angeles: same |
| 02:50.50 | dave | tcsetattr: well, thanks for debugging my hardware :P |
| 02:51.00 | dave | tcsetattr: Apparently my 5 port switch just became a 4 port switch :) |
| 02:51.04 | elkramme1 | how can i reconfigure if i want home directories to be read only by the owner user? I want users to be able to read only their home directory, not others |
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| 02:51.14 | lazarus | elkramme1: chmod |
| 02:51.20 | florist | fukizzat: does it show nfs, mount and portmap? |
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| 02:51.25 | fukizzat | yes it shows alot of nfs, portmapper, mountd |
| 02:51.42 | fukizzat | florist, yes it shows alot of nfs, portmapper, mountd |
| 02:51.50 | florist | fukizzat: on the server side? |
| 02:51.52 | mwilson | mickeyks: Openbox3. |
| 02:51.54 | fukizzat | florist, yes |
| 02:52.08 | lazarus | fukizzat: once you get the server end confirmed-good, then you'll want to poke around at the client end, be sure things are right there |
| 02:52.16 | mwilson | mickeyks: Didn't I show you a sshot at one point or another? |
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| 02:52.35 | florist | fukizzat: make sure portmap and statd are running on client side. |
| 02:52.58 | furgar | hello everyone |
| 02:52.59 | fukizzat | florist, i dont use rpcinfo on client side tho do I |
| 02:53.07 | mickeyks | mwilson: i think so, a long time ago, but i don't remember it |
| 02:53.12 | ight808 | lol how do I view ifconfig if ifconfig is an executible. lmao sorry for my ignorance. |
| 02:53.16 | fukizzat | florist, just ps aux |
| 02:53.16 | tcsetattr | so it works in a different port? |
| 02:53.17 | lazarus | fukizzat: rpcinfo can be used against any host |
| 02:53.22 | angeles | is there a way to free up memory? |
| 02:53.23 | florist | fukizzat: no on client too. |
| 02:53.31 | florist | fukizzat: http://www.cs.postgresql.org/tldp/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/client.html |
| 02:53.35 | lazarus | angeles: kill off the apps using it :) |
| 02:53.43 | tcsetattr | ight808, you run it, and you view the output. |
| 02:53.50 | angeles | heh, i bet X is using most of it |
| 02:53.52 | florist | fukizzat: this will lead you through it. |
| 02:53.55 | mickeyks | mwilson: actually i was using blackbox for a long time, but after i found out that nobody is maintaining it, i found it depressing |
| 02:54.07 | fukizzat | florist, i have portmap but not statd |
| 02:54.11 | ight808 | view output how |
| 02:54.14 | fukizzat | florist, ok i will chek there thanks |
| 02:54.22 | florist | fukizzat: you need to run nfs-common on client side. |
| 02:54.27 | ygnome | ight808: type it in a terminal window |
| 02:54.37 | florist | fukizzat: i think that starts up statd and lockd. |
| 02:54.38 | dave | tcsetattr: Apparently port 5 on the switch is broken. I've never used it before because I always use the shared uplink |
| 02:54.43 | lazarus | fukizzat: /etc/init.d/nfs-common restart |
| 02:54.44 | furgar | how do i download the superprobe utility i cant find it anywhere |
| 02:54.46 | dave | tcsetattr: it's now taped over so that won't happen again. |
| 02:54.48 | smacnay | If I want to set up snort-mysql and be able to access the database files created, do I need mysql server and client? |
| 02:54.56 | fukizzat | florist, client is fedora :( |
| 02:55.18 | lazarus | fukizzat: rh '/etc/init.d/nfs-common restart'-equivalent-command |
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| 02:55.22 | florist | fukizzat: ah. but the howto should lead you through it. check init.d directory... |
| 02:55.35 | florist | fukizzat: i am sure there will be some nfs related command there. |
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| 02:55.48 | lazarus | fukizzat: i know rh uses weird dirs and such ... the howto really should have some rh-ish examples |
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| 02:55.55 | tcsetattr | furgar, Superprobe was part of the XFree86 distribution long ago... it may be dead now. |
| 02:56.09 | furgar | wow |
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| 02:56.22 | florist | lazarus: does not rh use /etc/init.d too? |
| 02:56.25 | lazarus | fukizzat: also, man 8 mount, ,on the fedora box, to be sure yuo're using their nfs syntax |
| 02:56.27 | furgar | man im having so much trouble with debian |
| 02:56.32 | fukizzat | lazarus, florist, /etc/init.d/nfs start |
| 02:56.42 | tcsetattr | furgar, try "X -configure" instead with XFree86 4.x |
| 02:56.50 | fukizzat | ok i'm off to rtfm :) thanks alot guys |
| 02:56.51 | lazarus | florist: no, i think they have some other dir, and a "service" command too, come to think of it |
| 02:56.54 | florist | fukizzat: now does rpcinfo -p show those? |
| 02:57.05 | furgar | ok kool |
| 02:57.10 | florist | lazarus: yes, i remember service start stop syntax from long ago. |
| 02:57.14 | furgar | thanks |
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| 02:57.22 | fukizzat | florist, it still doesnt show statd |
| 02:57.28 | lazarus | florist: never used it myself, just know what i've seen mentioned on irc, heh |
| 02:57.35 | fukizzat | florist, it has mountd and nfs running |
| 02:57.44 | dave | tcsetattr: last question... how do I get dhcpd to pass along my DNS servers to the internal network? |
| 02:57.44 | mwilson | mickeyks: Who says no one is maintaining it? |
| 02:57.45 | fukizzat | florist, and portmap and status |
| 02:57.47 | florist | fukizzat: check for rpc or portmap. |
| 02:57.53 | fukizzat | florist, status == statd ?? |
| 02:57.57 | mwilson | mickeyks: I hadn't noticed that Shaleh and Brad were dead. |
| 02:57.59 | sergeeeoh | anyone used TiLP with -> calculator: TI-89, cable: usb graphlink?? |
| 02:58.10 | florist | fukizzat: no, i am not sure of it. |
| 02:58.23 | mwilson | mickeyks: True, it hasn't released in quite a while, but neither has E. :) |
| 02:58.26 | lazarus | dave: vim /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf |
| 02:58.26 | florist | lazarus: yeah, i used redhat 8.0. switched to debian and been with it ever since. |
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| 02:58.42 | florist | fukizzat: see if there is some rpc specific stuff in init.d? |
| 02:58.48 | lazarus | dave: vim /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf if you have that |
| 02:58.55 | mickeyks | mwilson: i thought i remembered going to their sourceforge page and seeing not even any messages or anything in yeras |
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| 02:58.58 | mickeyks | years |
| 02:58.59 | dave | lazarus: Right... I can't find an option about DNS servers in man dhcpd.conf |
| 02:59.00 | mickeyks | maybe i was mistaken |
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| 02:59.18 | florist | fukizzat: are you able to mount the directory? |
| 02:59.23 | tcsetattr | dave, put option domain-name-servers 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3; in /etc/dhcpd.conf |
| 02:59.31 | dave | lazarus: I see domain-name-servers but I want it to grab it from another interface... |
| 02:59.41 | lazarus | dave: option domain-name-servers foo, bar; |
| 02:59.45 | fukizzat | florist, i am still gettin permission denied |
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| 02:59.53 | fukizzat | florist, but i have not yet gotten a chance to read the article on postgres page |
| 02:59.56 | florist | fukizzat: permission denied to mount? |
| 03:00.06 | fukizzat | florist, yes |
| 03:00.06 | dave | tcsetattr: But doesn't that require the exact IP of the DNS server? |
| 03:00.16 | tcsetattr | you want to do what now? |
| 03:00.23 | sergeeeoh | anyone used TiLP with -> calculator: TI-89, cable: usb graphlink?? |
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| 03:00.28 | troubled | booya |
| 03:00.31 | troubled | :) |
| 03:00.32 | dave | tcsetattr: I want dhcpd to use the DNS server that eth0 is using. |
| 03:00.33 | florist | fukizzat: let me check my nfs server and client config files. |
| 03:00.36 | tcsetattr | you want to "grab" nameservers from another "interface"? |
| 03:00.39 | tcsetattr | that doesn't make sense, dave. |
| 03:00.43 | mwilson | mickeyks: I subscribe to the ML. :) |
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| 03:00.49 | tcsetattr | nameservers are not "used" by any particular interface. |
| 03:00.52 | troubled | mwilson...*nods* |
| 03:01.03 | tcsetattr | there is no such thing as "the DNS server that eth0 is using". |
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| 03:01.29 | dave | tcsetattr: okay... bit confused then. If I ping www.google.com, it knows google is accessible from eth0... |
| 03:01.39 | sergeeeoh | hello i have a real issue here so can someone rtfm for and let me know... |
| 03:01.39 | tcsetattr | you have nameservers configured in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 03:01.40 | lazarus | dave: by /etc/resolv.conf |
| 03:01.49 | fukizzat | florist, actually that's the same howto i have read earlier |
| 03:01.54 | sergeeeoh | anyone used TiLP with -> calculator: TI-89, cable: usb graphlink?? |
| 03:01.58 | mickeyks | mwilson: well, i guess you would know better than me then :) |
| 03:02.09 | lazarus | dave: you appear to be asking us to tell you "copy them out of /etc/resolv.conf into /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" |
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| 03:02.17 | dave | tcsetattr: that file is setup by pump when I bring up eth0? |
| 03:02.19 | florist | fukizzat: oh! sorry about that. anyway, when you run nfs-kernel-server does it show directories to export? |
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| 03:02.19 | lazarus | dave: OR I'M READING YOU WRONG |
| 03:02.26 | tcsetattr | furgar, don't /msg... it's not "X-configure" it's "X -configure" -- note the space |
| 03:02.27 | lazarus | caps lock sux :( |
| 03:02.27 | ight808 | dpkg I got the sbin/ifconfig thing figured out and it gives me my eth0 and two others and my ip addtress but I cant even connct to the router controle panel over mozilla. |
| 03:02.27 | dpkg | ight808: You are moron #25 |
| 03:02.35 | SeB_1978 | [usb-newbie] anybody familiar with USB printers? |
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| 03:02.41 | ight808 | thx |
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| 03:02.48 | florist | fukizzat: you are able to connect to the debian machine from fedora machine? |
| 03:02.50 | troubled | dave: /etc/dhclient.conf, add supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; you mean? |
| 03:02.52 | sergeeeoh | grrrr |
| 03:03.04 | troubled | dave: sorry, wrong if you use pump ;( |
| 03:03.07 | dave | lazarus: it's okay. I could copy them out of /etc/resolv.conf, but then if comcast changed my DNS servers, wouldn't that fubar things? |
| 03:03.34 | tcsetattr | dave, ok I get it you have a DHCP client on one interface and a DHCP server on the other, and you want to proagate nameservers from one to the other... that sonuds difficult. How about you apt-get install bind9 and use your gateway as a DNS server, and forget about comcast |
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| 03:03.47 | ygnome | ight808: in ifconfig, do you have an IP address? Is it in the same subnet as the router address? |
| 03:03.48 | fukizzat | florist, i havent tried deb->fedora yet.. my /etc/exports shows what directory to export |
| 03:03.49 | dave | tcsetattr: that'd work too :) |
| 03:03.54 | lazarus | dave: as long as the old ones still are out there and ruunning, and can be routed to by your box, you'll be okay |
| 03:04.08 | ight808 | yes yes |
| 03:04.12 | florist | fukizzat: no when you did /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start |
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| 03:04.19 | ygnome | ight808: for eth0 of course... |
| 03:04.27 | dave | tcsetattr: so I'll be running a DNS server on eth1 basicaly then... |
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| 03:04.27 | ight808 | yes |
| 03:04.28 | florist | fukizzat: did say exporting directory ... |
| 03:04.37 | mwilson | mickeyks: fluxbox has never really done anything unique... development on it is more or less stalled because blackbox is quiet and openbox2 is gone, so there's no one to steal code from. |
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| 03:04.48 | ygnome | ight808: but you can't ping the router address? |
| 03:04.50 | alex__ | I know it may be difficult to print on linux, but is it the same if the printer is actually not plug in to the linux box but part of a network , I guess it is the same is not it ? |
| 03:04.55 | sergeeeoh | tommorows paper: xcon goes on killing spree after trying to configure tilp |
| 03:04.58 | ight808 | no |
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| 03:05.12 | fukizzat | florist, yes it said exporting directories, although it didnt identify them |
| 03:05.13 | sander_ | where can I search after other packages from other apt mirrors? |
| 03:05.17 | sander_ | ..an webpage.. |
| 03:05.17 | tcsetattr | even if dhcpd could automatically read resolv.conf and pass it along to clients, you'd still have a problem. If comcast changed their nameservers (not likely) your internal DHCP clients would not get updated information until they renew their lease. |
| 03:05.26 | lazarus | alex__: that's called "remote printing" (such as "rlpr") and should be in most printing howtos |
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| 03:05.42 | sander_ | ?? apt |
| 03:05.48 | sander_ | hmm. |
| 03:05.53 | mickeyks | mwilson: er, how close is the openbox in sarge to what you use |
| 03:05.55 | furgar | is free bsd any easyer for a noob to use than debian |
| 03:05.59 | mwilson | tcsetattr: This is why something like dnsmasq is so nice. |
| 03:06.00 | lazarus | furgar: no |
| 03:06.03 | sander_ | someone... help me out!:) |
| 03:06.09 | alex__ | lazarus: where should I start my search from ? |
| 03:06.15 | sander_ | I need to find a shock plugin for mozilla |
| 03:06.17 | Guerin | !tell sander about search |
| 03:06.23 | Guerin | !tell sander about pdo |
| 03:06.27 | lazarus | alex__: /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/ or tldp.org |
| 03:06.27 | florist | fukizzat: ok, then it seems that your server is working fine. |
| 03:06.27 | tcsetattr | screw that, I say run your own DNS server and forget about using your ISP's. Having your own cache is a good thing anyway |
| 03:06.27 | Guerin | !tell sander about backports |
| 03:06.29 | sergeeeoh | furgar yes |
| 03:06.34 | sander_ | shockwave plugin |
| 03:06.34 | debian | furgar: no |
| 03:06.36 | florist | fukizzat: client does not have statd you said? |
| 03:06.40 | sergeeeoh | faster better and easier |
| 03:06.45 | fukizzat | florist, correct |
| 03:06.54 | debian | !8ball is freebsd any easier for n00b to use than debian |
| 03:06.54 | dpkg | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 03:06.58 | sander_ | !tell sander_ about search |
| 03:06.58 | mwilson | mickeyks: What's in Sarge is the current version. I don't use that, I'm running CVS. |
| 03:06.59 | ygnome | ight808: sounds wierd :) more stuff to look at: /sbin/route looking at the gateway address |
| 03:07.00 | debian | 8ball said yes |
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| 03:07.24 | florist | fukizzat: service nfslock start? |
| 03:07.28 | ight808 | brb |
| 03:07.35 | florist | fukizzat: on your fedora box. |
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| 03:07.38 | sander_ | !tell sander_ about pdo |
| 03:07.45 | sander_ | !tell sander_ about backports |
| 03:07.48 | sergeeeoh | furgar run for your life man, linux gets a thumbs down from sergio |
| 03:08.00 | Guerin | !tell sander about /msg |
| 03:08.05 | sergeeeoh | especialy debian distro |
| 03:08.20 | fukizzat | florist, its kinda hung up on the last mount attempt... i'll try again when it times out |
| 03:08.25 | sergeeeoh | why have a port that doesn't work? |
| 03:08.29 | florist | fukizzat: ok. |
| 03:08.35 | Guerin | sander_: go to flash.com for the shockwave plugin. There's no debian package for it |
| 03:08.44 | sergeeeoh | by port i mean package |
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| 03:08.57 | florist | fukizzat: if i remember your conversation with lazarus, you have allowed all clients permission to mount the exported directories? |
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| 03:09.16 | fukizzat | florist, yes temporarily, i will lock down when i figure this out :) |
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| 03:09.29 | elkrammer | how can i allow only user www-data to read my home directory if /home/user has 750 permissions? |
| 03:09.32 | lazarus | rooooooooooooooot |
| 03:09.37 | florist | fukizzat: that is ok. i was trying to figure out the possible reasons for this permission denied message. |
| 03:09.38 | willtmo | What are the possible causes that would cause my Xserver to give me this error message : "Fatal server error : no screen found" ? |
| 03:09.42 | debian | !tell _SaNdRa_ about root |
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| 03:09.51 | lazarus | elkrammer: chown it to www-data |
| 03:10.01 | sergeeeoh | ok i know atleast one have you have used the tilp port for debian? |
| 03:10.05 | lazarus | elkrammer: or chgrp it to www-data and add some group perms |
| 03:10.09 | florist | fukizzat: silly question, but you are running mount as root in client right? |
| 03:10.14 | fukizzat | yes |
| 03:10.16 | sander_ | Guerin, thanks.. maybe you know about other plugins+++ which mozilla could need to work with most web pages? |
| 03:10.17 | Guerin | no, dpkg, flash is what mwilson uses to design all his pages... whilst pretending he actually has a brain. If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to flash.com and follow the instructions there. |
| 03:10.21 | lazarus | elkrammer: (if you have that group) |
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| 03:10.40 | Guerin | sander_: /msg dpkg java |
| 03:10.40 | debian | !flash |
| 03:10.40 | dpkg | well, flash is what mwilson uses to design all his pages.. whilst pretending he actually has a brain |
| 03:10.43 | elkrammer | lazarus: yep i have that group. How do i do that? |
| 03:10.50 | lazarus | elkrammer: which one? |
| 03:10.54 | florist | fukizzat: ok, let me know when mount times out. |
| 03:10.55 | elkrammer | lazarus: the chgrp? |
| 03:11.06 | Guerin | hrm |
| 03:11.07 | lazarus | elkrammer: 'man chgrp' |
| 03:11.27 | lazarus | elkrammer: 'man chown' after that, ,to see how to grant access to the group |
| 03:11.29 | fukizzat | florist, i closed the terminal, opened a new one and its also hung up |
| 03:11.29 | mwilson | Guerin: Excuse me? Exactly what pages am I designing? |
| 03:11.29 | fukizzat | florist, that can't be good |
| 03:11.42 | elkrammer | lazarus: thanks :) |
| 03:11.47 | lazarus | elkrammer: np |
| 03:11.50 | florist | fukizzat: not it is not good. |
| 03:11.53 | Guerin | mwilson: no idea, it was in the factoid to begin with |
| 03:12.04 | florist | fukizzat: the mount command has been killed? |
| 03:12.14 | florist | fukizzat: what does ps aux say? |
| 03:12.16 | Guerin | mwilson: I'm just about to alter it though, so I'll take it out if it's slanderous :) |
| 03:12.19 | sergeeeoh | fuck man |
| 03:12.23 | lazarus | elkrammer: be careful how open you make it (read not write, may be what you really want) |
| 03:12.27 | fukizzat | florist, well i waited a while and closed the window because ctrl-C did not do anything |
| 03:12.31 | debian | !factinfo flash |
| 03:12.32 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as flash, debian |
| 03:12.39 | ight808 | kernal Ip routing table |
| 03:12.41 | ight808 | destination gateway |
| 03:12.42 | ight808 | 192.168.0.2 * |
| 03:12.43 | ight808 | 192.168.0.0 * |
| 03:12.45 | ight808 | default 192.168.0.1 |
| 03:12.45 | fukizzat | florist, i can't run ps aux because if i open a terminal no prompt comes up. never seen that before |
| 03:12.47 | ight808 | default * |
| 03:12.49 | dave | tcsetattr: thanks a lot for your help. Will named listen to eth0 as well as eth1? |
| 03:13.03 | lazarus | fukizzat: what is "open a terminal"? |
| 03:13.09 | mwilson | Guerin: <shrug> I don't design pages, I don't claim to be a "web author". The only page I have on the 'net I did in Mozilla Composer so I had a place to put a patch I'd done. |
| 03:13.14 | florist | fukizzat: u mean an x-term? |
| 03:13.24 | Guerin | dpkg, no, flash is <reply>If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to flash.com and follow the instructions there. |
| 03:13.25 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 03:13.35 | fukizzat | lazarus, clicking on the terminal icon and opening terminal in a little window. in gnome |
| 03:13.39 | Guerin | mwilson: sounds like someone got some wires crossed then |
| 03:13.44 | lazarus | fukizzat: alt-ctrl-f2 if you're stuck in x, and then login as root there for your testing |
| 03:14.02 | furgar | im trying to complete a base install and it cam up with a corrupt file what do i do now |
| 03:14.04 | lazarus | fukizzat: i dono't know "clicking" things, i don't do gui |
| 03:14.09 | florist | fukizzat: hopefully ctrl+alt+f? responds. |
| 03:14.11 | furgar | *came |
| 03:14.20 | fukizzat | lazarus, that will boot me out of X ? is that similar to ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 03:14.22 | elkrammer | lazarus: i did chmod 750 /home/elkrammer ; chown elkrammer.www-data /home/elkrammer/ |
| 03:14.25 | lazarus | fukizzat: no |
| 03:14.36 | lazarus | fukizzat: alt-f7 to get back to the x, which is still runnning |
| 03:14.49 | mwilson | Guerin: I have many better things to do than pretending to be a web designer. I'll leave that to the other 99% of the web. |
| 03:14.52 | fukizzat | lazarus, cool thx ill try now |
| 03:15.01 | lazarus | elkrammer: looks pretty much like i think you would be looking for :) |
| 03:15.01 | Guerin | mwilson: touche! |
| 03:15.26 | elkrammer | lazarus: yep :) Thank you very much for pointing me in the right way |
| 03:15.32 | sergeeeoh | el what? lol |
| 03:15.33 | lazarus | elkrammer: no prob |
| 03:15.43 | mwilson | mickeyks: Anyway, if you like flux, you should use flux. |
| 03:16.00 | fukizzat | lazarus, wow I have made things bad with the console. it sayd "login" i typed "root" and it hung up, didnt prompt for pw |
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| 03:16.15 | lazarus | fukizzat: okay, that's seriously bad |
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| 03:16.47 | sanmarcos | how can I remove something ignoring all dependencies? |
| 03:16.47 | elkrammer | does a "jail" like the bsd one exist for linux? |
| 03:16.52 | fukizzat | lazarus, does this have something to do with the hard & soft mount to nfs. ? |
| 03:16.52 | furgar | im trying to complete a base install and it came up with a corrupt file what do i do now |
| 03:16.53 | sanmarcos | in apt, not dpkg |
| 03:16.58 | Guerin | elkrammer: man chroot |
| 03:17.00 | mickeyks | mwilson: honestly, once i get this system working faster, or a faster system, i would like to try various others |
| 03:17.01 | lazarus | fukizzat: it's *poosible* that /etc/securetty disallows root on that ohne? |
| 03:17.03 | florist | fukizzat, lazarus looks like the mount command is still stuck? |
| 03:17.03 | fukizzat | lazarus, because it hung up trying to mount the nfs |
| 03:17.08 | Guerin | elkrammer: if that's what you mean? |
| 03:17.24 | lazarus | fukizzat: can your user login to f2? |
| 03:17.25 | elkrammer | Guerin: i know i can use chroot, but it's too lame to edit ~/.bashrc and do a chroot |
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| 03:17.33 | FieldySnuts | !wang knoppix |
| 03:17.36 | fukizzat | lazarus, "that one" meaning a runlevel? |
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| 03:17.54 | Guerin | elkrammer: yeah, I'm not familiar with the BSD tool |
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| 03:18.01 | lazarus | fukizzat: no, that "tty" |
| 03:18.02 | fukizzat | lazarus, no same thing happened |
| 03:18.03 | florist | fukizzat no f1 f2 terminals. |
| 03:18.04 | lazarus | rooooooooooooooooot |
| 03:18.23 | lazarus | fukizzat: login as user on f2, see if that doesn't "hang up on you" |
| 03:18.24 | sanmarcos | how can I remove something ignoring all dependencies? anybody --ignore-deps? |
| 03:18.25 | debian | @tell voot -about root |
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| 03:18.36 | lazarus | fukizzat: if user can get in, then "cat /etc/securetty |
| 03:18.37 | fukizzat | lazarus, it does the same thing , i enter username, it hangs |
| 03:18.38 | lazarus | " |
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| 03:19.08 | lazarus | fukizzat: okay, then securetty is not the culprit (which was a remote possibility, no surprise) |
| 03:19.18 | fukizzat | lazarus, f1 is stuck on my username, f2 is stuck on root username |
| 03:19.37 | lazarus | fukizzat: you also have f3 f4 f5 and f6 btw :) |
| 03:19.37 | florist | fukizzat: where did you try to mount the nfs directory? |
| 03:19.40 | FieldySnuts | !start a badger war |
| 03:19.40 | dpkg | FieldySnuts are worse than mushrooms |
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| 03:19.54 | florist | lazarus: but you think f3 f4 will be any different? |
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| 03:20.15 | Guerin | !tell sanmarcos about iyhtays |
| 03:20.16 | fukizzat | i did: mount 192.168.1.102:/mnt/md0 /mnt/pubshare -o nvsvers=3 |
| 03:20.19 | lazarus | florist: no, but i think he's new to non-x, so figured it's wise to mention it the night he learns of console, ,heh |
| 03:20.29 | florist | lazarus: oh ok :) |
| 03:20.41 | willtmo | What are the possible causes that would cause my Xserver to give me this error message : "Fatal server error : no screen found" ? |
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| 03:21.06 | mwilson | willtmo: What does the log file say? |
| 03:21.07 | lazarus | willtmo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 errors |
| 03:21.09 | Guerin | willtmo: bad config seems mist likely |
| 03:21.12 | tcsetattr | you tried to do an NFS mount and now you can't login? damn... |
| 03:21.14 | Gnea | willtmo: improper horizontal & vertical syncs |
| 03:21.21 | idaho45 | arghhh, installing sarge in my laptop, wish me luck :) |
| 03:21.23 | maher | willtmo: look for EE errors |
| 03:21.31 | Guerin | !tell willtmo about set up x |
| 03:21.31 | fukizzat | lazarus, florist, http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/client.html#MOUNTOPTIONS |
| 03:21.32 | lazarus | tcsetattr: yeah, that's a stumper ... any ideas? |
| 03:21.48 | fukizzat | lazarus, florist, is this the symptom of "hard vs soft" ? |
| 03:22.04 | lazarus | fukizzat: sounds like "hard" more than "soft" yeah :( |
| 03:22.10 | tcsetattr | but there's an active X session? |
| 03:22.14 | lazarus | fukizzat: sounds like you learned when you read that howto :) |
| 03:22.15 | florist | fukizzat: but your server has not crashed right? |
| 03:22.34 | sander_ | Guerin, now i've added an blackdown backport mirror.. what java thingie should I install? |
| 03:22.40 | fukizzat | florist, no but maybe client thinks it did |
| 03:22.57 | florist | fukizzat: ok. |
| 03:23.07 | lazarus | fukizzat: your fedora box is the one broken, right? |
| 03:23.14 | fukizzat | i dunno maybe its time for some windows nostalgia (reboot) |
| 03:23.28 | fukizzat | lazarus, yes fedora |
| 03:23.40 | willtmo | hmmm...I did the dpkg-reconfigure thingy + I put in the horizontal & vertical syncs right out of my manual... |
| 03:23.41 | Guerin | sander_: I've never used it. apt-cache search java will provide a few options |
| 03:23.41 | florist | fukizzat: probably. because you are not able to type any commands anyway. |
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| 03:23.46 | lazarus | fukizzat: if florist doesn't have any ideas, since i'm not fedora-fluent, a "fresh" start on the fedora box might be in order, yeah :/ |
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| 03:24.03 | fukizzat | cool i appreciate both your help!! i'll be back in a few |
| 03:24.06 | Guerin | !aliensmite the fedora box |
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| 03:24.40 | Anjapito | hi! i try to startx on mi woody, i have a laptop sony vaio |
| 03:24.46 | Anjapito | could somebody help me |
| 03:24.55 | Guerin | !tell Anjapito about set up x |
| 03:24.56 | maher | Anjapito: what model |
| 03:25.09 | Anjapito | i try with vesa, and run #insmod mousedev |
| 03:25.20 | Anjapito | its a sony vaio pcg-grv550 |
| 03:25.31 | Guerin | Anjapito: you also want to verify that your hardware all works with the kernel/version of xserver you're using |
| 03:25.43 | florist | Anjapito: what is the error? |
| 03:25.57 | florist | Anjapito: what is your video card? |
| 03:25.57 | maher | Anjapito: i have a different one - did you do the setup x stuff? |
| 03:26.17 | Anjapito | the kde starts, and then it hangs up, when its starting to configure the periphericals |
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| 03:26.32 | Anjapito | Caught signal 4. Server aborting |
| 03:26.40 | Guerin | Anjapito: so X works |
| 03:26.48 | Anjapito | its an ATI Radeon 7500C but i try first with VESA |
| 03:27.00 | lazarus | signal 4 is useful info for someone (but not me, sorry) |
| 03:27.00 | Guerin | Anjapito: this is a KDE problem, not an X problem |
| 03:27.02 | Anjapito | X works a little time, then stops :( |
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| 03:27.12 | florist | Anjapito: vesa should work. |
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| 03:27.23 | Anjapito | wait, sorry about my english, it really sucks |
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| 03:27.32 | florist | Anjapito: looks more like a kde problem than X problem. |
| 03:27.35 | Guerin | Anjapito: try another DE - same error? |
| 03:27.46 | florist | Anjapito: signal 4 does not help me either. |
| 03:27.59 | Anjapito | in the log it says |
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| 03:28.26 | Guerin | Anjapito: don't flood |
| 03:28.26 | Anjapito | PEXExtensionInit: Couldnt open dafault PEX fron file Roman_M |
| 03:28.31 | Anjapito | dotn worry! |
| 03:28.47 | Guerin | Anjapito: heh. might be worth asking in #kde, #debian-kde |
| 03:28.47 | lazarus | Anjapito: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2003/05/4/60947 |
| 03:29.10 | Anjapito | then: (WW)VESA(0) Option "UseFBDev" is not used |
| 03:29.28 | maher | Anjapito: look for the EE errors |
| 03:29.38 | tcsetattr | signal 4 is SIGILL (see for yourself with "kill -l" or "man 7 signal"). It means "Illegal instruction" - which comes from corrupted executables, or from trying to run pentium-only code on a 386 or other processor mismatches. |
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| 03:30.00 | Guerin | interesting |
| 03:31.38 | Anjapito | Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, |
| 03:31.38 | Anjapito | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.38 | Anjapito | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.05 | FieldySnuts | !kill Anjapito |
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| 03:32.58 | mwilson | doobie doobie doo |
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| 03:33.40 | Anjapito | plis help me |
| 03:33.58 | Anjapito | any one knows one debian's spanish channel? |
| 03:34.03 | maher | !spanish |
| 03:34.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 03:34.08 | lazarus | Anjapito: did you try asking in #debian-kde yet? |
| 03:34.12 | FieldySnuts | you should not say that you want to drop astrolite G thermonuclear bomb weapon terrorist communist enemy of the state SFOD/D SOCOMM S.E.A.L. Team #6 navdevgroup , it might tip off feds |
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| 03:34.44 | Guerin | FieldySnuts: indeed |
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| 03:35.03 | lazarus | Anjapito: your english really is good enough to get your meaning across :) i'm not sure if you can understand *us* but, #debian-kde will probably understand *you* :) |
| 03:35.44 | FieldySnuts | never ever discuss bombing the defense signals directorate, the communications security establishment, the government communications headquarters or fort meade with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction, ever. especially in cleartext on irc. |
| 03:35.47 | Guerin | Anjapito: also, it's worth trying #kde - some of the KDE devs may hang out in there |
| 03:36.03 | Guerin | FieldySnuts: quite |
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| 03:36.31 | Anjapito | lazaruz: thx for encouring me, i really understan *you* guys |
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| 03:36.52 | Anjapito | and if i try another X like gnome? |
| 03:37.04 | Guerin | Anjapito: yeah, see if you get the same errors |
| 03:37.31 | Anjapito | how do i shift to gnome? |
| 03:37.33 | Anjapito | :S |
| 03:37.49 | Guerin | Anjapito: did you use the stock debian kernel in woody? Or have you updated it? |
| 03:38.06 | FieldySnuts | ATF DOD WACO RUBY RIDGE OKC OKLAHOMA CITY MILITIA GUN HANDGUN MILGOV ASSAULT RIFLE TERRORISM BOMB DRUG KORESH PROMIS MOSSAD NASA MI5 ONI CID AK47 M16 C4 MALCOLM X REVOLUTION CHEROKEE HILLARY BILL WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON GORE GEORGE BUSH WACKENHUT TERROR TERRORISM TERRORIST JIHAD INTIFADA FATWAH |
| 03:38.14 | Guerin | !ops |
| 03:38.14 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your problem. |
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| 03:38.31 | FieldySnuts | ;( putting down the crack pipe |
| 03:38.31 | dan2 | wah! |
| 03:38.40 | dan2 | LoRez: when did helix get ops? |
| 03:38.46 | LoRez | a little while back |
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| 03:38.57 | Hejux | anyone who can help me with my linux? |
| 03:39.08 | Guerin | Hejux: what's the problem? |
| 03:39.08 | dan2 | flaco: hey |
| 03:39.13 | Hejux | it cannt find the lan card |
| 03:39.20 | florist | fukizzat: welcome back. ready to have another go at mount? |
| 03:39.23 | Anjapito | i use debian woody the bf24 one |
| 03:39.23 | xuelinz | ddddddddd |
| 03:39.29 | Guerin | Hejux: do lspci |grep -i eth |
| 03:39.29 | fukizzat | florist, it worked |
| 03:39.32 | Hejux | so i cannt get online at linux |
| 03:39.33 | florist | fukizzat: oh? |
| 03:39.38 | florist | fukizzat: cool! |
| 03:39.39 | fukizzat | florist, now i have to lock it down but it WORKED :) :) :) |
| 03:39.43 | Guerin | Anjapito: ok, that shouldn't cause trouble |
| 03:39.52 | florist | fukizzat: congrats. |
| 03:39.54 | dan2 | hmm where is bob2? |
| 03:40.01 | Anjapito | how do i shift to use the gnome Xwindow? |
| 03:40.07 | Guerin | Anjapito: you do want to get a real kernel though - /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 03:40.08 | fukizzat | florist, thank you so much ! wow kick ass |
| 03:40.15 | fukizzat | also thanks lazarus! |
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| 03:40.34 | Hejux | my card is on my mainboard Guerin |
| 03:40.52 | lazarus | fukizzat: what was the fix? |
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| 03:41.01 | Guerin | Anjapito: apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment should do it |
| 03:41.07 | Anjapito | so, i should do: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 ??ç |
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| 03:41.22 | Guerin | Anjapito: but I don't use gnome and I don't use woody |
| 03:41.23 | Hejux | how to read and write ntfs? Guerin |
| 03:41.26 | Guerin | Anjapito: yes |
| 03:41.26 | dan2 | peterS: you there? |
| 03:41.34 | fukizzat | lazarus, well i think nfs was not running on client ? also i think my mount syntax was incorrect, i had the directory wrong |
| 03:41.41 | sander_ | Guerin, I still cant use shockwave with mozilla |
| 03:41.42 | Guerin | Hejux: sounds like you need to lead the kernel module |
| 03:41.43 | peterS | who wants to know? |
| 03:41.43 | scarynetworkguy | Anjapito that is just an example go out to the debian webpage see what kernels are there and choose what you want |
| 03:41.44 | lazarus | fukizzat: ah |
| 03:41.58 | Guerin | Hejux: did you do that command I gave you? |
| 03:42.13 | sanmarcos | anybody knows wtf is xrdb for? |
| 03:42.15 | dan2 | peterS: is there a macro for emacs that will spit out a $Id dan <date> $ |
| 03:42.16 | Hejux | it is really hard to config my debian |
| 03:42.16 | sander_ | Guerin, I installed that java thingie.. and flash_player_7_linux |
| 03:42.20 | fukizzat | lazarus, i think alot of things _were_ wrong.. anyway that hard vs soft thing was a good lesson to learn.. i got hard,intr in my fstab now |
| 03:42.21 | Guerin | sander_: did the install finish properly? Did you restart mozilla? |
| 03:42.21 | dan2 | peterS: like most people use in their source |
| 03:42.28 | peterS | dan2: nah, just type $Id$ |
| 03:42.35 | sander_ | Guerin, yep, both |
| 03:42.40 | dan2 | peterS: ok |
| 03:42.41 | peterS | dan2: it'll be substituted by cvs when you next check out the code |
| 03:42.46 | Hejux | Guerin: i am not in linux right now |
| 03:42.48 | sanmarcos | Can anybody see if they have a .Xresources file in their homes? |
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| 03:42.55 | dan2 | peterS: but... I use tla |
| 03:43.06 | Hejux | Guerin:i am in windowsXP now ,i have a double system |
| 03:43.09 | peterS | dan2: then you are on your own. I have no idea if tla recognises the rcs escapes |
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| 03:43.22 | florist | fukizzat: brb. |
| 03:43.24 | Guerin | sander_: and you're using mozilla, not mozilla firefox? |
| 03:43.32 | Hejux | Guerin: i cannt get online in linux |
| 03:43.34 | scarynetworkguy | gepetto |
| 03:43.55 | Guerin | Hejux: ok. You need to figure out what kernel module your eth card needs, load it, then read man interfaces to set it up |
| 03:43.57 | sander_ | Guerin, yep, i'm using mozilla.. |
| 03:44.17 | sander_ | Guerin, the default mozilla browers which comes with debian |
| 03:44.33 | Guerin | sander_: yeah. /msg dpkg mozilla flash |
| 03:44.36 | debian | scarynetworkguy: we'll miss you. :) |
| 03:44.52 | lazarus | fukizzat: you've mastered nfs on multiple distros, a very productive night :) |
| 03:45.02 | scarynetworkguy | debian like I'm crazy enough to do it from this box. :) |
| 03:45.04 | fukizzat | haha! |
| 03:45.13 | fukizzat | not bad for a lawyer |
| 03:45.19 | Guerin | Just one little nmap... how could it hurt? |
| 03:45.24 | scarynetworkguy | btw my bank is pretty damn tight. |
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| 03:45.31 | code_01 | Hi everyone.... |
| 03:45.54 | lazarus | fukizzat: as a lawyer, i don't need to tell you to lock down that "*" (and maybe /etc/hosts.deny) |
| 03:46.00 | mwilson | http://funroll-loops.org |
| 03:46.01 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin given that the server I'm running it from is closer to you than me nothing nothing at all |
| 03:46.15 | Guerin | mwilson: it's classic, eh |
| 03:46.20 | lazarus | fukizzat: :) |
| 03:46.27 | dan2 | peterS: I doubt it, tla was meant for both decentralized and centralized development, they had to make a compromise on things like that |
| 03:46.36 | code_01 | I need some help;; |
| 03:46.36 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: nice. Just more random asian traffic |
| 03:46.37 | sanmarcos | Can anybody see if they have a .Xresources file in their homes?.. I cant seem to debug this problem |
| 03:46.47 | Guerin | !tell code_01 about ask |
| 03:46.48 | sander_ | Guerin, still nothing after copying that lib to the right place, and restarting mozilla.. but now the shockwave thingie flashed abit |
| 03:47.07 | dan2 | peterS: the centralized version doesn't have multiple users so the $Id$ is pointless |
| 03:47.07 | maher | sanmarcos: i don't have any |
| 03:47.07 | fukizzat | lazarus, :) right on will do |
| 03:47.07 | scarynetworkguy | I once ran nessus against a client on accident. Managed to spin it so he calmed down but it was ugly there for a moment |
| 03:47.07 | sanmarcos | maher: thats what I though |
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| 03:47.07 | code_01 | tanks... |
| 03:47.14 | code_01 | I had knoppix installed in HD |
| 03:47.15 | Anjapito | one question, whats the diference between mi bf24 and the kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686Ç? |
| 03:47.16 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin that is what Loki gave us Asia for. :0 |
| 03:47.18 | lazarus | sanmarcos: none here |
| 03:47.23 | Guerin | sander_: hrm, that's what it should do - are you sure the applet works? |
| 03:47.26 | code_01 | and was installed many programs |
| 03:47.26 | Hejux | Guerin:i cannt find out what type my eth card is ,because it is on nvidia nforce2 mcp-t board,it shows NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller |
| 03:47.29 | peterS | dan2: well, that's what those strings are - substituted in by rcs or cvs or similar, every time you check a file out. tla may or may not have equivalents. |
| 03:47.34 | code_01 | and I remove with apt-get remove |
| 03:47.41 | sander_ | Guerin, no. maybe you can give me an working applet? |
| 03:47.45 | lazarus | sanmarcos: try lowercase too though |
| 03:47.45 | code_01 | but give error in Linux boot |
| 03:48.01 | code_01 | request the run level |
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| 03:48.14 | Guerin | sander_: naver.com has a few - it's not in english, but don't let that bother you |
| 03:48.22 | lazarus | code_01: knoppix is not debian (/topic) |
| 03:48.27 | scarynetworkguy | Hejux I don't know about the nforce2 boards but the nforce boards are intel cards. a quick google should tell you what it really is |
| 03:48.36 | sanmarcos | lazarus: see, gnome-settings-daemon ** (gnome-settings-daemon:3689): WARNING **: Command xrdb -merge failed fails to thread, that reads from .Xresources, blah, big old problem |
| 03:48.39 | code_01 | is the same |
| 03:48.47 | code_01 | same tools |
| 03:48.47 | lazarus | code_01: wrong |
| 03:48.51 | lazarus | code_01: /topic |
| 03:49.00 | lazarus | !based on debian |
| 03:49.00 | dpkg | Knoppix, Corel, Stormix, Progeny, DamnSmallLinux, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. |
| 03:49.07 | Hejux | Guerin: look up |
| 03:49.24 | Guerin | sanmarcos: a fresh update? gnome-settings-daemon was b0rken last week, but should be fixed now |
| 03:49.25 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus what about Fedora? |
| 03:49.27 | sander_ | Guerin, huh;P.. maybe you can tell me where the applets is? |
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| 03:49.37 | sanmarcos | Guerin: nah, it isnt xlibs |
| 03:49.37 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: i think i'd rather support them, heh |
| 03:49.52 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: all fedora ppl get told "man 5 interfaces" lol |
| 03:49.53 | sander_ | Guerin, I mean.. I have no idea where on that page I should click:P |
| 03:49.56 | debian | !based on debian =~ s#Progeny#Progeny, Lindows#g |
| 03:49.56 | dpkg | debian: OK |
| 03:50.28 | Guerin | sander_: neither, because I don't have the flash plugin |
| 03:50.29 | lazarus | debian: lindows started out of us too? |
| 03:50.41 | sander_ | Guerin, ah.. is the thingie in the middle of the page an flash plugin? |
| 03:50.45 | peterS | lazarus: yeah, as did Xandros |
| 03:50.52 | sander_ | yeah.. its working now:D |
| 03:50.56 | debian | lazarus: it use debian tree for upgrade |
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| 03:51.11 | Guerin | sander_: no idea |
| 03:51.22 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus :) I've been working with a guy at work he was a RH guy and has switched to Fedora since the server part is his that is what we are using. It is not nearly as nasty as I recall RH being |
| 03:51.31 | sander_ | Guerin, I have macromedia flash plugin working.. but not shockwave |
| 03:51.40 | mwilson | My gods, if there was ever a collection of reasons to stay as far away from Gentoo as possible... |
| 03:51.40 | Guerin | Hejux: I don't know which module the nforce eth cards use - google should help |
| 03:51.49 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: i think tht man page is debspecific ;) |
| 03:52.02 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus yea I know. |
| 03:52.24 | peterS | lazarus: and we can't forget Libranet |
| 03:52.28 | Guerin | sander_: right. Well, you're pretty much exhausted my knowledge of flash, so good luck :) |
| 03:52.35 | lazarus | peterS: ah yeah, them i knew |
| 03:52.43 | scarynetworkguy | The princess from A Knight's Tale is uber hot |
| 03:53.01 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: single? |
| 03:53.07 | dan2 | peterS: checkout http://mirrorlynx.com/~dan/ |
| 03:53.10 | dan2 | peterS: bah |
| 03:53.11 | regex_racoon | scarynetworkguy: man LART |
| 03:53.17 | sander_ | Guerin, ok. thanks for your help anyway. i'm one step on my way to a more compatible browser:) |
| 03:53.24 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus for about a month now |
| 03:53.25 | dan2 | peterS: http;//mirrorlynx.com/~dan/apt-move-4.2.23.tar.gz |
| 03:53.26 | Guerin | sander_: indeedy |
| 03:53.34 | scarynetworkguy | regex_racoon nope not the one |
| 03:53.38 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: make your move ;) |
| 03:53.43 | dan2 | peterS: since I am maintainer of apt-move now, I first rewrote the build system |
| 03:53.43 | scarynetworkguy | !tourette's |
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| 03:54.02 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus its a movie man even I know better than that and I'm a monkey |
| 03:54.05 | dan2 | peterS: moved it to autoconf + automake1.8 |
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| 03:54.32 | dan2 | peterS: cleaned it up so it did a dynamic prefixes in apt-move |
| 03:54.35 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: afraid of a little restrainging order eh? ;) |
| 03:54.45 | dan2 | peterS: so I replaced with apt-move.in, its handled during build cycle |
| 03:54.51 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus yea I kinda like my freedom |
| 03:54.57 | lazarus | details |
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| 03:55.28 | scarynetworkguy | that and when it comes time to sort everything out with the kids a restraining order is bound to look bad |
| 03:55.34 | lazarus | heh |
| 03:56.02 | alex__ | whenever I do an halt the computer does not completly turn itself off I need to hold the power button for 10s to turn it off, somebody told me about atm, should I recompile ? |
| 03:56.28 | lazarus | alex__: apm probably |
| 03:56.29 | mwilson | alex__: What's wrong with just turning the computer off? |
| 03:56.36 | scarynetworkguy | alex__ you should be able to turn on that "feature" with modconf |
| 03:57.07 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson it bugs non-techie types to no end for some reason I've yet to be able to determine |
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| 03:57.49 | mwilson | scarynetworkguy: I can't imagine why you'd want the machine to have the ability to turn itself off. |
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| 03:57.58 | lazarus | i've never had a machine new enough that i dind't need to use the power switch |
| 03:58.29 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson in particular since it does not *really* turn itself off. |
| 03:58.33 | lazarus | mwilson: so others can do so remotely (after cracking) and spook you out? |
| 03:58.55 | maher | lazarus: nah - making sounds remotely is way more fun... |
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| 03:59.06 | scarynetworkguy | speaking of new machines I got a brand new one at work today 2.8 gig Pentium 4 hyperthreading a gig of memory. gawd it just fucking rocks |
| 03:59.26 | mwilson | lazarus: Somehow I'd think that a cracker using his power to turn the machine off would be more than a little self-defeating. |
| 03:59.30 | lazarus | maher: yeah, how many in here tell ppl to chmod 777 /dev/audio, etc, lol |
| 04:00.00 | alex__ | scarynetworkguy: which category ? |
| 04:00.06 | lazarus | mwilson: yeah, but it's a hell of a dos :) |
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| 04:00.44 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus mwilson back when I worked swing shift at a ISP we installed VNC on all the machines at work and used to fuck with the day shift to no end. |
| 04:00.50 | SpinX | i got a usb camera, and on redhat it was /dev/video0, and it isn't on debian. what would it be for the device? |
| 04:00.54 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: lol |
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| 04:01.45 | SpinX | can anyone help? |
| 04:02.16 | lazarus | SpinX: sorry, i have no experience with such myself |
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| 04:02.48 | maher | SpinX: does it show up in lsusb |
| 04:03.01 | lazarus | SpinX: maaaaaaaybe try 'less /dev/MAKEDEV' ? |
| 04:03.04 | SpinX | lsub, no such command. |
| 04:03.06 | SpinX | lsusb^ |
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| 04:03.26 | lazarus | SpinX: we shold probably start by asking "what kernel?" |
| 04:03.35 | SpinX | 2.4.25 |
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| 04:04.15 | lazarus | SpinX: woody? |
| 04:04.22 | SpinX | lazarus, ya |
| 04:04.25 | scarynetworkguy | that was a fun job too bad it paid shit |
| 04:04.29 | reaper | anyone know of a decent site to buy network equipment from |
| 04:04.33 | florist | SpinX: do you have usbutils installed? |
| 04:04.34 | reaper | my switch just up and died |
| 04:04.35 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: the fuun ones typically do |
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| 04:04.47 | SpinX | florist, dont think so |
| 04:04.56 | florist | SpinX: that has lsusb |
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| 04:05.28 | SpinX | installing |
| 04:05.45 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus tell me about it. Left that one for no reason than to get more money and while I needed the money that job sucked. |
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| 04:06.23 | SpinX | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 04:06.23 | SpinX | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 109f:7148 eSOL Co., Ltd |
| 04:06.29 | scarynetworkguy | alex__ i would guess you need to look for something like arch 1386 apm something along those lines |
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| 04:06.46 | scarynetworkguy | reaper I like new egg |
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| 04:07.14 | lazarus | Zibby: interesting host |
| 04:07.22 | florist | SpinX: does dmesg give you any details of the camera? |
| 04:07.37 | maher | Zibby: the 18th digit is wrong |
| 04:07.44 | scarynetworkguy | SpinX what camera? |
| 04:07.50 | SpinX | intel veo stingray |
| 04:08.00 | alex__ | scarynetworkguy: don't I need to do a make menuconfig, because apparently I have got apm supported by my kernel |
| 04:08.03 | SpinX | florist, dmesg, lots of ... sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 13 error.. about eth0 |
| 04:08.21 | zinx | maher: no it's not |
| 04:08.24 | florist | SpinX: nothing about camera? |
| 04:08.26 | scarynetworkguy | alex__ well get cracking that kernel ain't going to build itself |
| 04:08.27 | maher | zinx: :) |
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| 04:09.18 | SpinX | florist, i dont see it. |
| 04:09.19 | alex__ | tcsetattr: what does this mean ? |
| 04:09.23 | SpinX | just a bunch of that icmp stuff |
| 04:09.32 | peterS | tcsetattr: I would have but I only know about 16 digits |
| 04:09.41 | scarynetworkguy | SpinX is it a usb? |
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| 04:09.54 | lazarus | i can't count past 10 |
| 04:10.02 | SpinX | scarynetworkguy, yea |
| 04:10.04 | tcsetattr | I only know about 25, but I think if he said the 30th digit is wrong I probably would have rushed to look it up. |
| 04:10.07 | scarynetworkguy | lazarus with boots on or off? |
| 04:10.07 | SpinX | oh,, LOL |
| 04:10.12 | SpinX | it would help if I had the cam in right? Lol |
| 04:10.22 | lazarus | of course, note i didn't specify 10 base *what* heh |
| 04:10.30 | scarynetworkguy | SpinX if you cat kern.log it will tell you if the camera is even being seen or not |
| 04:10.36 | florist | SpinX: yes, that helps. |
| 04:10.48 | scarynetworkguy | are Sonic Youth still cool? |
| 04:11.14 | furgar | so umm is linux better than windows |
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| 04:11.15 | SpinX | hrm crap |
| 04:11.18 | SpinX | my mouse quit working |
| 04:11.21 | furgar | just kidding |
| 04:11.21 | SpinX | an i dont wanna restart X |
| 04:11.23 | lazarus | furgar: no |
| 04:11.29 | scarynetworkguy | SpinX USB? |
| 04:11.29 | maher | scarynetworkguy: the fact that you can even ask that question attests you your amazing coolness deficit |
| 04:11.42 | furgar | man im bored |
| 04:11.46 | florist | SpinX: usb mouse? |
| 04:11.59 | lazarus | im: nothing appropriate. |
| 04:11.59 | lazarus | bored: nothing appropriate. |
| 04:12.00 | SpinX | no |
| 04:12.02 | SpinX | ps/2 |
| 04:12.08 | furgar | hahaha |
| 04:12.15 | maher | SpinX: did you plug the camera in? |
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| 04:12.19 | scarynetworkguy | maher when I was a wee lad they where pretty damn cool. So is the answer that they kids are not all about the Sonic Youth anymore? |
| 04:12.24 | SpinX | aint worried about camera right now |
| 04:12.28 | SpinX | trying to get my mouse to work |
| 04:12.28 | SpinX | :/ |
| 04:12.37 | scarynetworkguy | SpinX is the mouse USB? |
| 04:12.40 | SpinX | i dunno what to do |
| 04:12.44 | SpinX | no, PS/2 |
| 04:12.47 | maher | scarynetworkguy: no one knows who sonic youth are unless they are very old |
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| 04:12.57 | florist | SpinX: check if you pulled ur mouse off when you plugged camera in. ;) |
| 04:13.02 | SpinX | ah there we go :P |
| 04:13.04 | scarynetworkguy | maher I'm not old |
| 04:13.15 | lazarus | SpinX: /dev/psaux |
| 04:13.18 | SpinX | I guess I've been in X for almost 2 weeks, so it's kinda laggish.. I guess. |
| 04:13.20 | maher | scarynetworkguy: you're old enough to remmeber sonic youth... |
| 04:13.36 | kerpal | Ahh sonic. |
| 04:13.42 | SpinX | now to plug my mouse up |
| 04:13.59 | kerpal | I need to learn how to teach dpkg how to smite, i would make a sonic smite right now. |
| 04:14.09 | lazarus | SpinX: reconnecting a ps2 while running? :( |
| 04:14.10 | scarynetworkguy | maher so I'm guessing same deal with The Smiths? |
| 04:14.16 | sussudio | !fruitsmite kerpal |
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| 04:14.21 | SpinX | lazarus, yeah, it worked. |
| 04:14.22 | SpinX | :P |
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| 04:14.30 | lazarus | SpinX: lucked out |
| 04:14.31 | kerpal | dpkg irritate sussudio |
| 04:14.32 | dpkg | sussudio: wenas! |
| 04:14.35 | florist | SpinX: so mouse works now? |
| 04:14.37 | maher | scarynetworkguy: why don't you listen to some modern music for a change? |
| 04:14.41 | SpinX | florist, yeah |
| 04:14.43 | SpinX | im plugging cam up now |
| 04:15.10 | scarynetworkguy | of course I know other people who look at a card and can fry it |
| 04:15.14 | SpinX | ok cams in, what now? |
| 04:15.24 | lazarus | SpinX: dmesg| less |
| 04:15.25 | maher | SpinX: does it show up in lsusb |
| 04:15.31 | sussudio | SpinX: now you get your wizard hat and cloak. |
| 04:15.34 | florist | SpinX: does dmesg show any info about camera? |
| 04:15.37 | SpinX | Yeah |
| 04:15.41 | SpinX | lsusb shows it now |
| 04:15.46 | SpinX | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0545:800c Xirlink, Inc. Veo StingRa |
| 04:15.47 | furgar | have any of you guys tried damn small linux |
| 04:16.04 | kerpal | sussudio: that was a lame irritate.. I feel as if I was robbed. |
| 04:16.04 | sussudio | !fart furgar |
| 04:16.12 | furgar | based on knoppix based on debian |
| 04:16.15 | kerpal | !penixstrike sussudio |
| 04:16.21 | sussudio | !essentially debian |
| 04:16.21 | dpkg | well, essentially debian is yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but do you go to a Mistubishi dealership to get help on a Plymouth Champ, or a Volkswagen dealership to get help with a Porsche 914/4? Don't expect help from #debian with your "essentially debian" distribution: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian. |
| 04:16.22 | scarynetworkguy | !badgercrap |
| 04:16.23 | dpkg | [badgercrap] You sir are a 'fat, worthless, syphilitic puddle of badger crap.' |
| 04:16.40 | sussudio | !wangstrike kerpal |
| 04:16.41 | dpkg | A Wang 486 Tower descends from the great colo in the sky, knocking kerpal to the ground and leaving a large smoldering crater. |
| 04:16.46 | kerpal | lol |
| 04:16.51 | kerpal | I forgot about that one. |
| 04:16.53 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio so who is going to fix my Tercel? |
| 04:17.05 | furgar | well debian nor knoppix will work on this one comp so im using damn small linux |
| 04:17.05 | scarynetworkguy | kerpal which one? |
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| 04:17.32 | sussudio | maria k-line-a |
| 04:17.36 | scarynetworkguy | speaking of wangs anybody going to PAX? |
| 04:17.38 | kerpal | dpkg kawfeestrike sussudio |
| 04:17.56 | kerpal | wangstrike is the one i forgot. |
| 04:18.11 | sussudio | wangggg |
| 04:18.24 | ardor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:18.46 | scarynetworkguy | I need to figure out how to make badgercrap say nick is a "far, worthless, syphilitic puddle of badger crap |
| 04:18.48 | lazarus | ardor: man tar |
| 04:18.49 | SpinX | the cam modules are loaded, modprobe, lsmod.. but i dont know whrat driver to use from /dev/ |
| 04:18.53 | SpinX | er device |
| 04:19.02 | scarynetworkguy | are ther docs for dpkg anywhere? |
| 04:19.11 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: man dpkg |
| 04:19.12 | kerpal | I told k3b to burn at 1x, estimate avg burning speed is 4x. Do i see something irritating.... |
| 04:19.17 | lothsahn | Every time I startup linux, I get a sl0 interface (serial line IP). Is there any way to disable this? (I don't even know what it is) |
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| 04:19.18 | scarynetworkguy | peterS not that dpkg the bot |
| 04:19.21 | kerpal | Grr: another waffle. |
| 04:19.23 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: man page, doc dir, some debianfaq |
| 04:19.24 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: I know (: |
| 04:19.33 | kerpal | Whats a good mp3 burner app? |
| 04:19.40 | SpinX | cdrecord |
| 04:19.43 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: of course, what we *really* need in here are a few more people abusing the bots |
| 04:19.44 | ardor | lazarus i read the man |
| 04:19.46 | scarynetworkguy | peterS I'm sending nasty vibes your way. :) |
| 04:19.48 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: oh, /usr/share/doc/blootbot/ |
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| 04:20.39 | zic | please, how can i save my actual page with lynx.. i didnt find any manual.. ;( |
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| 04:20.54 | scarynetworkguy | peterS so will you tell me how to fix the factoid? |
| 04:20.54 | kerpal | zic hahahaha |
| 04:21.06 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: the problem with dpkg is ... the useful factoids are being diluted and obscured by useless crap that's only marginally funny *once* - but this is happening at far too slow of a rate |
| 04:21.13 | lazarus | scarynetworkguy: oh, /usr/share/blootbot/data/blootbot.help |
| 04:21.39 | scarynetworkguy | peterS true story. |
| 04:22.15 | scarynetworkguy | peterS so I did my part and got rid of badgercrap. I'm a reformed bot abuser |
| 04:22.37 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: you did? /me checks logs |
| 04:23.07 | scarynetworkguy | peterS wanna tell the judge I'm a good upstanding citizen type? |
| 04:23.09 | lazarus | !listvals badger |
| 04:23.10 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'badger' by value (15 shown; 29 total): CMD: badger (.*?) ;; badgers in heat ;; badgercam ;; susudio ;; meme ;; cmd: badgersmite (.*?) ;; dead badger ;; polls ;; CMD: confuse (.*?) ;; any ideas ;; private massage ;; vagueness ;; CMD: wmdstrike (.*?) ;; bob2_wba ;; CMD: contort (.*?). |
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| 04:23.48 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: all I can see in my logs is you *invoking* various badger crap quite a lot more frequently than could possibly be considered humorous or original |
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| 04:23.57 | rich_ | hi |
| 04:24.01 | somiaj | hello |
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| 04:24.16 | scarynetworkguy | peterS I was playing with it. I just told him to forget it at least I thought I did |
| 04:24.17 | zamolxes | a |
| 04:24.33 | scarynetworkguy | peterS what I meant is the one I made earlier today called badgercrap |
| 04:24.35 | SpinX | night |
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| 04:25.00 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: ahhh. so you're saying, you are not actually *increasing* the useless entropy in the dpkg database |
| 04:25.12 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: but now you're trying to learn how to use it effectively, so that in the future this won't be true |
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| 04:25.42 | scarynetworkguy | peterS will I was but much life the beav your stern talking to has started me down the road of not being such a fucking crack monkey |
| 04:25.45 | kerpal | damn my burner app keeps making virtual waffles (the dont play in my car radio). The app im using is k3b, i told it 1x which almost makes it play but it skipps like a school boy in love. Any suggestions? |
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| 04:26.14 | kerpal | When it was burning it said 4x avg burn.. (pissing me off in the proc) |
| 04:26.16 | dondelelcaro | kerpal: better media or new car cd player. |
| 04:26.30 | scarynetworkguy | peterS yup |
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| 04:27.12 | kerpal | dondelelcaro: I have used the media before with nero and it works fine... |
| 04:27.19 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: factoids with people's names inserted in them at runtime are very, very rarely actually useful. and pretty rarely are they funny, because it's all been done like 2 or 3 years ago by now |
| 04:27.28 | kerpal | dondelelcaro: it still plays that same branded media.. |
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| 04:27.37 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: so I fail to see how teaching more people how to create these things makes #debian a better place for anyone over about the age of 17 |
| 04:27.40 | kerpal | dondelelcaro: but not this disk! grrrr. |
| 04:27.49 | sbetore | Is there a shorter way of writing root=/dev/sda1 |
| 04:27.50 | sbetore | ? |
| 04:27.57 | dondelelcaro | kerpal: *shrug*. It could be that cdrecord is getting the power wrong, or nero is doing something slightly differently. |
| 04:28.08 | peterS | sbetore: you could try leaving out the vowels. rt=/dv/sd1 |
| 04:28.12 | dondelelcaro | kerpal: you are burning using cdrecord itself, right? |
| 04:28.15 | lazarus | peterS: good luck in your quest to clean the db, i tried and got banned |
| 04:28.19 | scarynetworkguy | peterS but you are right. |
| 04:28.31 | kerpal | dondelelcaro: first tried cdrecord with the frontend k3b |
| 04:28.44 | dondelelcaro | kerpal: don't use a frontend. they all suck. |
| 04:28.47 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: if it sounds like I'm lashing out at you, I think I'm mostly lashing out at the many who have come before you |
| 04:29.03 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: very few of them have the wit to create factoids nearly as amusing as they think they are |
| 04:29.05 | sbetore | peterS: Hmm, no, doesn't boot. |
| 04:29.11 | kerpal | dondelelcaro: shit man, i would hate to have to think about burnign a cd you know.. |
| 04:29.18 | peterS | sbetore: maybe leave out the consonants too. =//1 |
| 04:29.30 | dondelelcaro | lazarus, peterS, scarynetworkguy: make a list of factoids that you think are outdated, or wrong, or whatever, and you can mail them to me. |
| 04:29.36 | scarynetworkguy | peterS and I understand your point now I'm just messing with you man but you are right most IRC jokes are not nearly as good as they seem when you type them |
| 04:29.42 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: (: |
| 04:29.42 | sbetore | peterS: Okay, I'll try that... |
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| 04:30.00 | samlander | hello |
| 04:30.14 | sbetore | !listvals toresbe |
| 04:30.17 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'toresbe' by value returned no results. |
| 04:30.20 | sbetore | !listvals sbetore |
| 04:30.22 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sbetore' by value returned no results. |
| 04:30.26 | sbetore | ...good signs... |
| 04:30.27 | samlander | quick question |
| 04:30.29 | sbetore | !listvals ToreSB |
| 04:30.30 | peterS | dondelelcaro: I'll do that, as I come across them. we were talking earlier and said it would be nice to have a whitelist of people trusted to delete "too old" factoids, and trusted to exceed the normal "abuse" threshold for 'forget' |
| 04:30.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ToreSB' by value returned no results. |
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| 04:30.52 | sbetore | peterS: Hmm, no, doesn't boot, either |
| 04:30.53 | peterS | dondelelcaro: but I guess who knows who can really be trusted - these safeguards do exist for a reason |
| 04:31.17 | sbetore | peterS: Oh, wait, it does. |
| 04:31.18 | peterS | sbetore: you can always use 'rdev' on the kernel image itself, then pass no root= at all. (the last two times, I was just joking, sorry if you didn't catch on) |
| 04:31.20 | samlander | Cannot open /dev/parport0: Permission denied <-- why would i get that? I got the same thing when trying to access my sound card and adding myself to the audio group fixed that... is this somthing similar? |
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| 04:31.55 | Ocean | samlander, u need to set the permissions |
| 04:32.08 | sbetore | peterS: I know. \ |
| 04:32.10 | samlander | how? |
| 04:32.17 | sbetore | peterS: THAt you Ere tkoking. |
| 04:32.21 | Ocean | chmod -777 /dev/parport0 would work |
| 04:32.25 | samlander | ty |
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| 04:32.29 | lazarus | peterS: there'a a forget "safeguard" but no equivalent counter for teaching :( |
| 04:32.31 | peterS | sbetore: anyway, the 'rdev' suggestion wasn't a joke (: |
| 04:32.32 | sbetore | peterS: I just slapped myself. I know that you were joking. |
| 04:32.37 | peterS | lazarus: yeah, unfortunately |
| 04:32.44 | sbetore | peterS: How do I do rdev? |
| 04:32.45 | samlander | Ocean: I keep forgetting that dev's have the same characteristics as files when it comes to perms |
| 04:32.49 | lazarus | peterS: ratherr backwards |
| 04:32.52 | scarynetworkguy | samlander do a ls -al /dev/parport0 that will tell you what group owns it and what it's permissions are |
| 04:32.57 | peterS | sbetore: it has a manpage |
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| 04:33.11 | sbetore | peterS: Okay, I' |
| 04:33.27 | sbetore | peterS: DAMNIT, the apostrophe key keeps triggering enter... |
| 04:33.35 | scarynetworkguy | samlander yea *everything* in Unix is a file. I've been trying for weeks to teach that to people who are used to MPE. |
| 04:33.35 | peterS | sbetore: it's for changing the default root device for a kernel, for if you don't pass it one at boot time |
| 04:33.52 | cef | samlander: could also try adding yourself to the lp group (just 'ls -l /dev/parport0' and check it's that group) |
| 04:33.53 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: *griN* im catching on ;) |
| 04:34.02 | sbetore | peterS: The firmware on my Indy has a bug |
| 04:34.11 | scarynetworkguy | samlander at least you know what a group is |
| 04:34.14 | samlander | cef: i did the ls, if im interupreting it , it is root |
| 04:34.15 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: except network devices in Linux |
| 04:34.16 | sbetore | peterS: It only stores the first eight bytes of OSLoadOptions... |
| 04:34.25 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: AIX /dev/en0 does not have a Linux equivalent /dev/eth0 |
| 04:34.26 | samlander | ls -al /dev/parport0 |
| 04:34.26 | samlander | crw------- 1 root root 99, 0 May 21 22:50 /dev/parport0 |
| 04:34.27 | lazarus | samlander: after adding yourself to a group, remember you need to relog |
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| 04:34.53 | peterS | sbetore: well, I actually don't know if rdev is supported on MIPS. it might be specific to the x86 Linux kernel boot block |
| 04:34.53 | cef | samlander: yup then root it is |
| 04:34.56 | samlander | so i know how to add myself to a group, how do i add a device/file to a group? |
| 04:35.09 | lazarus | samlander: man chgrp chmod |
| 04:35.18 | samlander | ty lazarus |
| 04:35.30 | sbetore | ssh fortran |
| 04:35.35 | sbetore | pdp11 |
| 04:35.39 | lazarus | samlander: chmod since that device has no group perms yet |
| 04:35.42 | florist | lazarus: should not salamander be using some other group than root? |
| 04:35.42 | scarynetworkguy | peterS the only commercial Unix I know well at all is HP-UX and there lan0 behaves basically the same as eth0 |
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| 04:35.50 | sbetore | att rl02 RT11/boot.img |
| 04:35.57 | lazarus | florist: yes, hence man chgrp |
| 04:36.04 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: indeed it does. my point is that not *quite* everything is a file, in Linux at least. eth0 has no /dev entry. |
| 04:36.10 | sbetore | that was not the right KB for the job. Sorry, I'll just shift left... |
| 04:36.22 | florist | lazarus: ok. just making sure salamander caught it. |
| 04:36.32 | scarynetworkguy | peterS you are right almost everything is a file |
| 04:36.33 | samlander | lazarus: i did a chmod 777, its just a parallel port, so i dont need to be hypersensative about security perms |
| 04:37.03 | lazarus | samlander: you like the world using up your deead trees there in the middle of the night? |
| 04:37.14 | tcsetattr | but you can open a packet socket and connect it to eth0. Then you have a file descriptor to eth0... so it's a file. Not all files have filenames :) |
| 04:37.15 | scarynetworkguy | In MPE a "group" is what we call a directory. Leads to no end of confusion when you try to move those folks to Unix |
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| 04:37.23 | sbetore | samlander: rm -f /dev/null; ln -s /dev/lp0 /dev/null |
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| 04:37.27 | samlander | lazarus: i only turn the printer on when i use it ;) |
| 04:37.46 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: that's confusing indeed |
| 04:37.46 | lazarus | samlander: chgrp lp /dev/par0 ; chmod 770 /dev/par0 |
| 04:38.10 | lazarus | samlander: something to that effect, that way youo can add users indivsually |
| 04:38.16 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: and conversely, in LDAP and so forth, a "directory" is a group of users (amongst other things) (: |
| 04:38.17 | cef | lazarus: doesn't need execute.. 660 would be better |
| 04:38.21 | sbetore | samlander: Erhum, most modern printers turn themselves on when data starts coming in |
| 04:38.35 | lazarus | cef: true |
| 04:38.43 | samlander | this is an office printer, hard switch |
| 04:38.54 | scarynetworkguy | peterS when I first got this job it took me a long time to figure out what they were talking about and I was one confused puppy till I made the translation. What they call a "gateway" also messes with my mind |
| 04:38.54 | sbetore | samlander: Ah, kay then :) |
| 04:39.00 | tcsetattr | you shouldn't need direct access to any /dev entry, especially /dev/partport0, to use a printer. you can't install lpr? |
| 04:39.09 | florist | samlander: still follow lazarus' suggestion. always a good policy to set right permissions. |
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| 04:39.18 | samlander | tcsetattr: it's for vmware, mapping to hardware |
| 04:39.24 | tcsetattr | ick. |
| 04:39.24 | samlander | ok |
| 04:39.30 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: I'm almost afraid to ask. what's an MPE "gateway"? |
| 04:39.48 | scarynetworkguy | peterS it is what you and I would call a "route" |
| 04:39.56 | tcsetattr | oh well that's not _too_ far off |
| 04:39.56 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: What's MPE? |
| 04:39.59 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: as opposed to a "router"? weird |
| 04:40.01 | herbi | jer! |
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| 04:40.02 | herbi | morning guys |
| 04:40.06 | herbi | even though its 2pm here :P |
| 04:40.09 | scarynetworkguy | sbetore an old mainframe OS |
| 04:40.12 | peterS | sbetore: MPE/IX is a non-Unix OS for certain HP workstation hardware |
| 04:40.21 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: OM..OMG... mainframe os.... |
| 04:40.35 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: /me suddenly runs upstairs and hugs his magtapes |
| 04:40.47 | samlander | lazarus: i am to assume we just made a group called lp? |
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| 04:41.03 | samlander | lazarus: I cant remember the command to add to a group... i've only used it once |
| 04:41.07 | peterS | samlander: the 'lp' group already existed |
| 04:41.13 | florist | samlander: i think lp already exists. |
| 04:41.16 | samlander | peterS: ah |
| 04:41.16 | peterS | samlander: 'adduser yourself lp' |
| 04:41.16 | lazarus | samlander: yeah, though you can use staff or anything else yuo feel apprpriate that exists on the box |
| 04:41.20 | samlander | that it |
| 04:41.20 | dondelelcaro | samlander: surprisingly enough, it's addgroup. |
| 04:41.21 | samlander | thanks |
| 04:41.35 | scarynetworkguy | peterS just one of many things that are weird. If the TCP/IP stack on that beast gets a redirect it will change it's route table and treat it as gospel truth till you go in and flush the table. Leads to no end of pain for me. |
| 04:41.44 | samlander | dondelelcaro: now now ;) it's not nice to pick on the new guy |
| 04:41.45 | lazarus | samlander: after you add a user to a grroup, that user must relog too |
| 04:41.52 | florist | dondelelcaro: i think samlander wanted to add himself to the group. |
| 04:42.12 | dondelelcaro | florist: yeah, I was just answering the next question. |
| 04:42.14 | samlander | done |
| 04:42.17 | scarynetworkguy | sbetore if you have ever had an account with a Credit Union odds are that is the OS that they ran on |
| 04:42.22 | samlander | addgroup to make the group |
| 04:42.29 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: have you got experience with other non-Unix OSes? if so, which one does MPE seem to most resemble? |
| 04:42.31 | samlander | adduser user group to add a user into the group |
| 04:42.33 | florist | dondelelcaro: lp i think exists by default? |
| 04:42.38 | kerpal | dpkg Kills kerpal |
| 04:42.39 | samlander | bbiab gotta relog |
| 04:42.39 | dpkg | kerpal: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 04:43.02 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: Actually, A) I'm 16 years old. |
| 04:43.06 | lazarus | lp is group 7 |
| 04:43.14 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: B) I'm in Norway. I don't even know what a Credit Union is. |
| 04:43.17 | dondelelcaro | florist: I'm not sure which version of basefiles has it, but it's pretty old. |
| 04:43.26 | florist | lazarus: yeah. |
| 04:43.33 | sbetore | scarynetworkguy: C) Norway uses IBM stuff... Has since System/360. |
| 04:43.35 | peterS | sbetore: well, a credit union is like a bank, but owned by all the people who participate in it |
| 04:43.51 | sbetore | peterS: Ah, kthxlol |
| 04:43.53 | scarynetworkguy | peterS not enough experince to really tell but it does not feel like anything else I've used. Of course pretty much the only other non-Unix OS that I've used very much is VMS |
| 04:44.01 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: ah, ok |
| 04:44.20 | peterS | so, it doesn't feel like Unix and it doesn't feel like VMS |
| 04:44.27 | peterS | I'll have to take that as the best information I can get (: |
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| 04:44.47 | zamolxes | completly offtopic.. who is the piper in 'piper at the gates of dawn' ? i just can't figure out what it means. I'm thiking Pan, but what's Pan got to do with it? |
| 04:44.48 | scarynetworkguy | peterS google on it. It is a properity HP thing |
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| 04:45.03 | debian | putty seems to be unable to read rsa2 key file generated by debian's ssh-keygen, and vice-versa. Any clue? |
| 04:45.06 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: yeah, I've heard of it. just never seen it in use |
| 04:45.14 | herbi | zamolxes, could be the pied piper |
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| 04:45.21 | peterS | debian: you have to convert the key. putty has a tool for this, I forget what it's called |
| 04:45.23 | jester | many thanks to all |
| 04:45.24 | lazarus | debian: /usr/bin/puttygen |
| 04:45.31 | peterS | debian: at least, this used to be true |
| 04:45.55 | debian | peterS,lazarus: thanks a lot |
| 04:46.03 | jester | I wish macromedia would make a port to linux... that would be sweet |
| 04:46.26 | maher | zamolxes: http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/discography/tpatgod.html |
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| 04:46.31 | zamolxes | herbi, the one with the rats? hmm didn't thought of that |
| 04:46.35 | zamolxes | thanks maher |
| 04:46.40 | herbi | :) |
| 04:46.46 | florist | jester: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/03/05/0030210.shtml |
| 04:47.44 | jester | florist: excellent! |
| 04:47.53 | zamolxes | herbi, heh i was right, it's Pan |
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| 04:48.16 | peterS | maher: my word, that's where Astronomy Domine came from |
| 04:48.30 | maher | zamolxes: its actually from wind in the willows - a cutesy kiddies book |
| 04:48.40 | zamolxes | maher, saw that, thanks |
| 04:49.46 | lazarus | never read wind in the willows, but i know it's written by someone who misspells graham crackers :) |
| 04:49.53 | jester | florist: now if microcrap would get off their git and port office, im set |
| 04:50.32 | zamolxes | heh |
| 04:51.00 | rich_ | Well im happy macromedia and Im sure happy enough without office. |
| 04:51.12 | rich_ | I mean happy without macromedia |
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| 04:52.27 | florist | jester: i am not holding my breath for that. but openoffice doesn't work for you? |
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| 04:52.48 | zamolxes | rich: great to see not using a piece of software makes you happy. others try women, drugs, nothing works |
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| 04:53.36 | jester | jester: i like office 2003, and all my clients use it too |
| 04:53.36 | Gokee2 | Anyone here? |
| 04:53.38 | Guerin | 731 of us, yeah |
| 04:53.39 | jester | florist: that was supposed to be to you ;) |
| 04:53.46 | jester | lol Guerin |
| 04:53.51 | Guerin | 1lol |
| 04:53.54 | Guerin | !lol |
| 04:53.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, lol is Laugh{s,ing} Out Loud. A laugh sound is not spelled "lol" nor is "lol" punctuation. If you want to quickly indicate that you're laughing, use "heh" or "haha" in the first person and "lol" or "is lol" in the third person ("/me"). See also: ne1, u, ur. |
| 04:54.02 | streuner | lol |
| 04:54.08 | Guerin | hrm |
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| 04:54.19 | Guerin | someone excised the Lamer On Line bit |
| 04:55.07 | slayer[pc] | where can i dl debian without jigdon |
| 04:55.11 | lazarus | i've heard people say "loll" offline, btw |
| 04:55.23 | samlander | slayer: why not just get the net install ? |
| 04:55.25 | lazarus | slayer[pc]: see the web site |
| 04:55.25 | streuner | slayer[pc]: /msg dpkg ig |
| 04:55.32 | streuner | slayer[pc]: /msg dpkg netinstall |
| 04:55.33 | shadows | lazarus, ugh |
| 04:55.37 | shadows | grr |
| 04:55.44 | Guerin | lazarus: that's just wrong |
| 04:55.49 | Gokee2 | I was working with open ofice I wrote something that took me hours to write and then restarted without saving I said to recover it but it had an eare telling me to start open ofice again because it failed but when I did a blank page came up. Is there somewhere open ofice stores backups? |
| 04:55.55 | lazarus | Guerin: i think they're online too often, heh |
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| 04:56.09 | shadows | my little sister's batmitzvah (no she's not a jew, she converted due to step mother's insistance) she had this poster thanking everybody |
| 04:56.12 | shadows | there in the middle |
| 04:56.27 | shadows | "and lindsay LOL ROFL kthx!" |
| 04:56.35 | Gokee2 | anyone> |
| 04:56.37 | shadows | written out |
| 04:56.38 | Gokee2 | ?* |
| 04:56.43 | samlander | Gokee2: dunno mate |
| 04:56.45 | slayer[pc] | is this easy to dual boot with XP? |
| 04:56.59 | Guerin | Gokee2: I think it makes a backup in ~/.openoffice/something |
| 04:56.59 | samlander | Gokee2: i still use msoffice |
| 04:57.06 | lazarus | Gokee2: ls -l ~.op* |
| 04:57.10 | Guerin | Gokee2: ask in an OO.o channel |
| 04:57.18 | streuner | slayer[pc]: yes |
| 04:57.20 | lazarus | Gokee2: ls -l ~/.op* rather |
| 04:57.23 | Gokee2 | OO.o? |
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| 04:57.26 | f0ob4r | man i need some pussy |
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| 04:57.36 | Guerin | f0ob4r: fuck off |
| 04:57.38 | samlander | f0ob4r: that's nice |
| 04:57.39 | f0ob4r | anyone in here have a pussy? |
| 04:57.42 | Guerin | !ops |
| 04:57.43 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your problem. |
| 04:57.45 | Gokee2 | ls -l ~/op ok |
| 04:57.45 | f0ob4r | ... |
| 04:57.48 | lazarus | pussy (1) - Perl User SAFT Server Yin |
| 04:57.59 | lazarus | actual app |
| 04:58.03 | f0ob4r | bob2 is a pansy ass bitch. |
| 04:58.05 | f0ob4r | tell him I said so |
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| 04:58.11 | streuner | f0o: go away, we don't need you. |
| 04:58.25 | maher | Gokee2: look in .openoffice |
| 04:58.26 | samlander | *sniff* *sniff* |
| 04:58.28 | samlander | smell that? |
| 04:58.31 | samlander | smells like a troll |
| 04:58.38 | Guerin | samlander: burning |
| 04:58.41 | Gokee2 | ok |
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| 04:59.26 | lazarus | ban evasion |
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| 04:59.44 | sanmarcos | my home folder is 12G, bah, little too much |
| 05:00.02 | smacnay | anyone ever played with distmp3host? Can Windows apps use it on a lin server or is it a relatively useless app? |
| 05:00.18 | f0ob4r | lazarus, no, realy, i'm calmed down now. |
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| 05:00.23 | smacnay | sanmarcos: mine is nearly 60 Gig |
| 05:00.32 | sanmarcos | smacnay: what do you have in it? |
| 05:00.36 | smacnay | sanmarcos: movies |
| 05:00.41 | Guerin | pr0n |
| 05:00.42 | sanmarcos | smacnay: me too |
| 05:00.51 | Guerin | that's the only way it'd get up so high |
| 05:00.52 | sanmarcos | I need to move them to my mulltimedia hd |
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| 05:00.55 | smacnay | sanmarcos: no, home movies I rip from my camcorder |
| 05:01.05 | sanmarcos | smacnay: homemade pr0n? |
| 05:01.07 | smacnay | sanmarcos: I need another hd... :) |
| 05:01.11 | sanmarcos | smacnay: me too |
| 05:01.13 | smacnay | sanmarcos: I wish... no. |
| 05:01.17 | sanmarcos | haha |
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| 05:01.26 | Gokee2 | I found openofice/user/backup and it has some stuff but I can`t get it to do anything :( |
| 05:01.49 | smacnay | sanmarcos: I need to clean up my hd a little. |
| 05:01.50 | sanmarcos | smacnay: filelight is great for removing useless space consuming stuff, even if its KDE, i can handle that for such a great aoo |
| 05:01.52 | sanmarcos | *app |
| 05:01.56 | maher | Gokee2: what do you mean you can't get to it? |
| 05:01.57 | sanmarcos | me too, im doing that now |
| 05:02.02 | F00b4r | realy i'm calmed down. |
| 05:02.03 | Guerin | mine is a coupld hundred MB on my laptop and about a gig on my desktop - but I have a storage partition of about 20G or so |
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| 05:02.09 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c211-30-95-178.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] by dondelelcaro |
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| 05:02.18 | Gokee2 | Got it! |
| 05:02.24 | smacnay | sanmarcos: no kde apps here... I will read about it, though |
| 05:02.28 | Guerin | Gokee2: good job |
| 05:02.31 | Gokee2 | Thanks for all your help |
| 05:02.40 | Guerin | Gokee2: now SAVE the damn thing regularly |
| 05:02.57 | Gokee2 | :) |
| 05:02.59 | Gokee2 | weew |
| 05:03.03 | sanmarcos | smacnay: this and k3b are the only things i *have* to use |
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| 05:03.16 | smacnay | sanmarcos: hehe |