| 00:00.05 | bob2 | Starfury^: guess. |
| 00:00.10 | eeyore- | bob2: which is challenging cuz i had to remove the retainer bracket and hold it in place while machine is on :) joy! |
| 00:00.18 | vogella | Does make-kpkg kernel_image makes a make clean before it starts the compilation? (Its takes forever after I only changed one setting to place ReiserFS into the kernel) |
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| 00:00.33 | Starfury^ | apt-get install memtest86 ? |
| 00:00.35 | fantasticbuff | i've compiled a new kernel, and used lilo to update the bootloader. the system boots up fine, but before login i get the error, init: must be run as superuser. i understand the error but how to fix it is another question. |
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| 00:00.51 | eeyore- | bob2: it's a 2U box i'm building :-) wouldn't put it past the 64-bit riser, though |
| 00:00.59 | lrdMyren | any easy way to always see linenumbers for cursor (always) in vim? |
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| 00:01.14 | tcsetattr | IrdMyren, :set ruler |
| 00:01.23 | eeyore- | bob2: OK, the jet engine is taking off again :) (8 friggin' fans) |
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| 00:01.40 | barretj | is there any way to run two commands at once? |
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| 00:01.45 | xtof | is it possible to know the physical size of the memory on each slot (without opening my box I mean) ? |
| 00:01.50 | lrdMyren | word, thanks tcsetattr |
| 00:01.53 | simonrvn | barretj: 2 vts :P |
| 00:01.56 | bob2 | vogella: yes |
| 00:01.57 | Stereo | barretj: yeah, command1 & command2 |
| 00:01.57 | barretj | no.. |
| 00:02.02 | bob2 | eeyore-: heh |
| 00:02.10 | vogella | bob2: Thanks. |
| 00:02.14 | barretj | stereo: thanks |
| 00:02.16 | junix | barretj: command1;command2 |
| 00:02.38 | eeyore- | hmm, at least this time the driver didn't complain about pci parity error |
| 00:02.40 | Stereo | junix: thatr will run one command, wait for it to finish, then run the other one |
| 00:02.49 | eeyore- | so MAYBE IT'S THE FRIGGIN RISER AFTER ALL? |
| 00:02.56 | junix | Stereo: its the next best thing :-P |
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| 00:03.05 | eeyore- | i'm so not happy |
| 00:03.05 | Starfury^ | bob2, i get this error when trying to install memtest86 |
| 00:03.07 | Starfury^ | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 235352 package `djvuserve': |
| 00:03.07 | Starfury^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.07 | Starfury^ | efb: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 00:03.08 | dpkg | You are moron #22, Starfury^ |
| 00:03.18 | Starfury^ | dpkg, why thank you :) |
| 00:03.19 | dpkg | Starfury^: no idea |
| 00:03.29 | Starfury^ | dpkg, you must be moron #1 |
| 00:03.29 | dpkg | Starfury^: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:03.33 | Starfury^ | ;) |
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| 00:03.55 | bob2 | eeyore-: maybe your riser card also has a "thick black accent"? |
| 00:03.56 | junix | why can't you ftp as a regular user? |
| 00:04.04 | bob2 | Starfury^: "dselect update" |
| 00:04.11 | bob2 | your disk or ram is toast |
| 00:04.13 | lrdMyren | ahhh, roaming. awsome. |
| 00:04.16 | bob2 | or maybe a kernel bug |
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| 00:04.31 | lrdMyren | my wireless nic didnt even know, i think. sweet |
| 00:04.35 | simonrvn | bob2: hehe ;) |
| 00:04.38 | eeyore- | bob2: hey! i've worked with two co-workers like that. pissed me off no end. that's where i learned to be a racist |
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| 00:04.51 | simonrvn | bob2++ |
| 00:05.24 | Starfury^ | well what if i was using a combination of say ecc mem and non ecc mem or reg dimm and non reg dimm |
| 00:05.30 | Starfury^ | could that cause instability? |
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| 00:08.57 | eeyore- | oh wait, no ... just died. hmm, maybe bad/marginal controller? :-o argh |
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| 00:09.41 | Randy | Hello |
| 00:09.43 | Randy | The biggest effect of the SYN flood is to disable large windows. |
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| 00:09.49 | Randy | what the hell is large windows? |
| 00:10.07 | Starfury^ | bob2, dselect update :- /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update: line 42: 1031 Segmentation fault $APTCACHE dumpavail >$CACHEDIR/available |
| 00:10.08 | Starfury^ | update available list script returned error exit status 139. |
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| 00:10.39 | peterS | Randy: ummm. you know about TCP windowing? |
| 00:11.32 | Randy | peterS: some what |
| 00:11.44 | Randy | peterS: I am making my efforts to understand what large windows are |
| 00:11.47 | peterS | Randy: because it's kind of hard to explain, if you don't. If you do, it's easy to explain: it's referring to TCP windows being sized large, for performance |
| 00:12.44 | bob2 | window == how much data is enroute? |
| 00:12.50 | bob2 | s/nr/n r/ |
| 00:12.57 | neil | default: Do you know the name of the java applet project in webmin? |
| 00:12.59 | peterS | bob2: basically. how much TCP data hasn't been ACKed yet |
| 00:13.16 | peterS | bob2: or, how much data one side will send before stopping to wait for ACKs |
| 00:13.25 | Randy | peter needs to be my friend |
| 00:13.28 | Randy | heh |
| 00:13.38 | default | neil: I would have to look it up myself (: |
| 00:13.45 | Infohawk | Anyone know what ssh config variables could be responsible for slow ssh transfers on a lan? |
| 00:13.47 | simonrvn | aah, ok |
| 00:13.51 | Infohawk | by slow I mean only like 180kb/s |
| 00:13.53 | bob2 | peterS: ah, ok. |
| 00:14.05 | bob2 | is it cpu-bound? |
| 00:14.09 | xtof | I think the window size increase with time, and if ther's no ack, it falls back to minimum size. sort of auto trafic regulation... (maybe I'm wrong peterS?) |
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| 00:14.27 | peterS | Infohawk: 'Ciphers' might affect things, depending on how much spare CPU each of your machines has |
| 00:14.31 | peterS | Infohawk: the fastest supported cipher for ssh protocol 2 is 'arcfour' |
| 00:14.31 | simonrvn | i'm thinking it's bound to mtu |
| 00:14.35 | neil | default: Couldn't find anything about it. Not sure if it's possible to do what I want to do really |
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| 00:14.44 | sontek | Is there an apt-get upgrade pretend command? |
| 00:14.54 | pwk_ | what does this mean ? Especially the "rc" at the start ? rc librrd0 1.0.35-2 Time-series data storage and display system |
| 00:15.03 | peterS | xtof: something like that. but window resizing algorithms are a bit more complex than that |
| 00:15.03 | tcsetattr | sontke, you mean -s or --dry-run |
| 00:15.08 | Infohawk | peterS, thanks. Do you happen to know what the default debian cipher is? |
| 00:15.14 | simonrvn | pwk_: dpkg -l | head |
| 00:15.29 | simonrvn | pwk_: will tell you at the top of that |
| 00:15.38 | default | neil: check out http://www.webmin.com/ , I know that some german universities had it to get some text interfaces on the web |
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| 00:15.48 | tcsetattr | that dpkg -l header is pretty hard to understand |
| 00:15.53 | peterS | Infohawk: 'man ssh_config' - it lists the default order |
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| 00:16.21 | tcsetattr | it's a lot of information packed into a tiny space |
| 00:16.27 | chris` | Still no contrib firefox packages, boooo |
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| 00:16.41 | doublehp | does any one know where i can find the source to exploit the security issue about "integer overflow" in the brk call ? |
| 00:16.42 | default | neil: i disabled that in my webmin, because i only allow ssh to login on my server |
| 00:16.55 | bob2 | !+firefox debs |
| 00:17.07 | bob2 | !+listkeys firefox |
| 00:17.09 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'firefox' by key (1 shown): firefox. |
| 00:17.14 | bob2 | !+firefox |
| 00:17.14 | dpkg | No, there won't be any packages until YOU make them and share them!, or deb http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/$(ARCH) ./ |
| 00:17.17 | bob2 | chris`: ^ |
| 00:17.19 | chris` | heh |
| 00:17.25 | bob2 | also, firefox is in sid now |
| 00:17.30 | pwk_ | simonrvn: Config File + Reinstall required ??? |
| 00:17.31 | bob2 | or will be after dinstall |
| 00:17.52 | neil | default: Ok i'll mess around with it, thanks |
| 00:18.04 | tcsetattr | pwk_, close. Remove + Config Files. try `dpkg -s pkgname` it's easier to read |
| 00:18.14 | simonrvn | pwk_: configs remain |
| 00:18.29 | Randy | peters can I pm you |
| 00:18.39 | peterS | Randy: uh, sure |
| 00:18.48 | FieldySnuts | !start a browser war |
| 00:18.49 | dpkg | netscape > galeon |
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| 00:19.15 | peterS | bob2: woohoo |
| 00:19.15 | pwk_ | can I get rid of the packet completly ? I want to install a newer one manualy... |
| 00:19.23 | FieldySnuts | packet? |
| 00:19.30 | bob2 | FieldySnuts: package |
| 00:19.31 | simonrvn | package |
| 00:19.32 | mikelcu | is it possible to set custom CFLAGS when doing a dpkg-buildpackage or is that entirely dependant on the rules file |
| 00:19.35 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 00:19.39 | bob2 | french people tend to say packet for some reason |
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| 00:19.46 | simonrvn | paquet |
| 00:19.46 | Pook | dpkg --purge |
| 00:19.47 | bob2 | mikelcu: the latter |
| 00:19.47 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, Pook |
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| 00:19.52 | FieldySnuts | eurotrashers |
| 00:19.56 | bob2 | mikelcu: however, look at pentium-builder |
| 00:20.06 | bob2 | FieldySnuts: better than americap |
| 00:20.10 | bob2 | s/ap/rap/ |
| 00:20.20 | bob2 | </troll> |
| 00:20.40 | Perdition | At what point can I confirm LILO has finished and something else has gone to hell? |
| 00:20.42 | mikelcu | bob2: I'm not on a pentium :\ |
| 00:20.53 | Perdition | I get LILO and a bunch of dots. |
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| 00:20.58 | Perdition | then .... Nothing |
| 00:20.58 | bob2 | mikelcu: *look* was the operative word there |
| 00:21.07 | bob2 | self- |
| 00:21.10 | bob2 | built kernel? |
| 00:21.18 | mikelcu | me? |
| 00:21.22 | mikelcu | yes |
| 00:21.43 | Pook | Perdition: your kernel must be borked |
| 00:22.04 | bob2 | mikelcu: good, read the description. |
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| 00:22.36 | SteveB | bang bang! |
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| 00:22.55 | mikelcu | interesting |
| 00:22.56 | Perdition | <Pook> if you had a borked Kernel, where would you start? Can I just copy a basic kernel image in there? |
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| 00:23.24 | bob2 | Perdition: you built this kernel? |
| 00:23.29 | Perdition | Can I run a setup and just install the boot partiion? |
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| 00:23.37 | Perdition | No |
| 00:23.45 | mikelcu | so that covers architecture, but not optimizations or other tweaks |
| 00:23.45 | Pook | first |
| 00:23.51 | Pook | you are on an arch that lilo runs on? |
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| 00:24.01 | deonya | is there a big diff between gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.2? |
| 00:24.10 | bob2 | mikelcu: please install it and read it. please. |
| 00:24.17 | mikelcu | I'm reading it now |
| 00:24.29 | bob2 | mikelcu: how could someone possibly write a gcc wrapepr script that only let you set -m but not -O options? |
| 00:24.32 | bob2 | deonya: yes |
| 00:24.36 | Perdition | When I ran Aptitude, it mentioned it was updating files, and I seem to remember it saying it was updating the kernel because there was a new module |
| 00:24.45 | deonya | whats the diff/ |
| 00:24.46 | Perdition | but I can use the default kernel on this system with no problems. |
| 00:24.51 | mikelcu | bob2: please tell me you don't think that would be surprising |
| 00:25.03 | bob2 | mikelcu: hm, perhaps, but not in this case |
| 00:25.14 | Pook | Perdition: you should have vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old symlinks in your root directory |
| 00:25.15 | bob2 | deonya: rtfchangelog |
| 00:25.21 | bob2 | deonya: lots of bug fixes |
| 00:25.32 | mikelcu | ok I see |
| 00:25.33 | deonya | not worth upgrading? |
| 00:25.40 | deonya | should i upgfrade when i encounter problems? |
| 00:25.45 | bob2 | what? |
| 00:25.55 | bob2 | use whatever compiler came with your version of debian |
| 00:26.10 | deonya | debian is so .... fun. |
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| 00:26.19 | bob2 | or use another |
| 00:26.22 | felipe_BR | deonya bob2, I have a related problem... in fact I'm using a kernel compiled with 3.3.2 and I need to build a module but I can't find gcc 3.3.2 in apt |
| 00:26.31 | bob2 | but if you don't know what the difference is, then it doesn't matter |
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| 00:26.45 | ctp | if someone's interesting in statistics of the win2k code 'disclosed' some weeks ago: http://mjt.nysv.org/w2k_greps/ ;-) |
| 00:26.47 | bob2 | !+info gcc-3.3 sid |
| 00:26.49 | dpkg | gcc-3.3: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4104 kB |
| 00:27.04 | deonya | felipe_BR: apt-get install gcc |
| 00:27.04 | bob2 | .1 to .2 won't have changed the abi |
| 00:27.25 | Perdition | I tried to change the symlinks and I got the same results. |
| 00:27.40 | CompWizd | i accidentally compiled a kernel with 2.95 and modules with 3.3 once |
| 00:27.40 | felipe_BR | deonya I've already done it... but it's 3.3.3 and module wont build |
| 00:27.42 | CompWizd | didn't work :) |
| 00:27.49 | Pook | remove your new kernel package then |
| 00:27.53 | bob2 | felipe_BR: "won't build"? |
| 00:27.56 | Pook | and free your old one |
| 00:27.57 | deonya | apt-get install gcc-3.2 |
| 00:28.07 | deonya | or download a non debian kernel |
| 00:28.11 | deonya | kernel.org |
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| 00:28.13 | Perdition | <bob2> Can I just re-install just the boot file system? |
| 00:28.15 | felipe_BR | deonya 3.2 is 3.2 or 3.3.2 ? |
| 00:28.20 | bob2 | deonya: did you read his question at all? |
| 00:28.21 | deonya | make your own |
| 00:28.25 | deonya | 3.2 |
| 00:28.30 | Pook | deonya: download the .deb its not available in woody |
| 00:28.34 | simonrvn | felipe_BR: 3.2. 3.3.2 would be 3.3 |
| 00:28.36 | bob2 | felipe_BR: you can get 3.3.1 from snapshot.debian.net |
| 00:28.39 | deonya | bob2, I saw gcc 3.3.3 and not aork |
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| 00:28.48 | bob2 | deonya: then read more words. |
| 00:28.54 | bob2 | perhaps even the whole sentence? |
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| 00:29.00 | brunner | recently, (I think ever since I upgraded to 2.6.2) I've been unable to run X apps as root (ie Xemacs). Does anyone know what might have caused this? I get the following error: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 00:29.00 | brunner | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 00:29.03 | deonya | felipe_BR: or download gcc 3.3.1 source |
| 00:29.13 | bob2 | that's moronic |
| 00:29.17 | bob2 | stop giving such bad advice |
| 00:29.20 | felipe_BR | well, folks, I just thought that if there is a kernel-image-2.4.24 built w/ gcc 3.3.2 in apt, there should be a gcc-3.3.2 also |
| 00:29.23 | bob2 | Perdition: "boot file system"? |
| 00:29.31 | deonya | Ihate 2.6 |
| 00:29.31 | deonya | i love my 2.4 |
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| 00:29.35 | bob2 | felipe_BR: there is, snspahot.debian.net |
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| 00:29.42 | bob2 | felipe_BR: also, hwo does it not work? |
| 00:29.44 | brunner | deonya: what's wrong with 2.6? |
| 00:29.45 | bob2 | that's probably a bug |
| 00:29.47 | felipe_BR | bob2 thanks a lot! |
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| 00:29.52 | Pook | just ftp to a debian mirror and grab the sid package |
| 00:29.57 | Pook | and dpkg -i it |
| 00:30.01 | bob2 | sid is not a package |
| 00:30.01 | deonya | felipe_BR: are you using woody? |
| 00:30.01 | deonya | brunner: I dont need it |
| 00:30.08 | deonya | I dont have more than 6gb of ram |
| 00:30.12 | felipe_BR | bob2: I'm building nvidia and vmware |
| 00:30.14 | deonya | or 32 proc |
| 00:30.17 | Perdition | No way to just re-install the kernel without starting over? |
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| 00:30.26 | bob2 | felipe_BR: and... |
| 00:30.32 | deonya | so 2.4.25 is fine with me |
| 00:30.32 | bob2 | Perdition: of course there is. |
| 00:30.35 | bob2 | Perdition: what have you done? |
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| 00:30.44 | CompWizd | vmware compiles fine with the compiler in sid |
| 00:30.45 | CompWizd | as does nvidia |
| 00:30.55 | Carp | Hey, I want to build a computer in my truck. |
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| 00:31.13 | Perdition | Ive tried to change the symlink to point to what I think is the orinal kernel |
| 00:31.19 | g4lt | Carp do so. makes a great sound system ;) |
| 00:31.27 | Carp | Is there anyway I can get all my MP3's in a list, and be able to just use the arrow keys to move up and down and enter to play? |
| 00:31.32 | bob2 | Perdition: ignore that. what has actually happened. |
| 00:31.32 | deonya | woah apt-get install gnome and i need to download 200 mb of .deb |
| 00:31.33 | pro | is it possable to install VNC on linux so that I can see what the person on the box is busy doing? |
| 00:31.34 | deonya | lol |
| 00:31.35 | Carp | with debian |
| 00:31.37 | bob2 | Carp: cplay |
| 00:31.37 | deonya | I will just get the src |
| 00:31.40 | Perdition | Ive tried to run the installation routeen and just tell it to install the kernel, but it wants to install the root. |
| 00:31.42 | pro | in X? |
| 00:31.48 | brunner | Carp: there is software designed for what you're trying to do |
| 00:31.51 | deonya | i am using bonzai linux also mini-woody |
| 00:31.51 | bob2 | Perdition: what did you actually do? |
| 00:31.54 | deonya | 185mb iso |
| 00:31.59 | deonya | 700 mb installed |
| 00:32.01 | bob2 | pro: you want to spy on someone? |
| 00:32.02 | deonya | camewith kde and stuff |
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| 00:32.05 | deonya | kernel 2.4.20 |
| 00:32.06 | bob2 | deonya: that's nice! |
| 00:32.11 | Carp | brunner: Know any off the top of your head? |
| 00:32.21 | deonya | i could almost say debain is better than solaris |
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| 00:32.33 | deonya | or freebsd |
| 00:32.33 | Carp | I also want to be able to print a list with numbers so i can just enter a song number |
| 00:32.38 | deonya | but i cant |
| 00:32.41 | gaimer | is anyone familiar with fetchmail |
| 00:32.42 | brunner | Carp: I can't remember. I researched it a while back. Lemme go see if I can find them again. |
| 00:32.46 | bob2 | deonya: what a shame. |
| 00:32.51 | gaimer | i wanna use fetchmail to just check my email |
| 00:32.52 | pro | bob2, not for spying, in the "snoop" kind of way, just to offer remote training or something, |
| 00:32.59 | bob2 | deonya: do you have anything debian-related to discuss, aside from it's obvious suckiness? |
| 00:33.01 | deonya | unix will always be better than linux |
| 00:33.03 | g4lt | deonya run Solaris on a 32-bit machine.... |
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| 00:33.21 | |stefan| | anyone experiencing problems with unstable fluxbox and fluxconf ? i can't change the timeformat in the "bar" or what i should call it ;) |
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| 00:33.29 | deonya | g4lt: i run it on a sparc 64bit |
| 00:33.30 | bob2 | pro: rfb - VNC Server for X11 - exports current display |
| 00:33.32 | Perdition | <bob2> In trying to fix the problem, I tried to change the symlinks booting into knoppix, I tried to reload just the kernel using the debian install disk one, I tried running lilo thinking that might be my problem. |
| 00:33.53 | bob2 | Perdition: no, that's not your problem. what happens when you try to boot? |
| 00:33.54 | pro | bob2 basically i want to sit in my office and see what they are doing wrong the whole time |
| 00:33.59 | g4lt | deonya that's good, because as of sol10, that's the only thing it'll run on |
| 00:34.07 | pro | bob2, cool does it have a .deb? |
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| 00:34.17 | g4lt | it won't even run on an ultra1 |
| 00:34.20 | bob2 | pro: that's the description from apt-cache |
| 00:34.26 | Perdition | <Bob2> When I boot, it loads LILO then ................................................ and then nothing |
| 00:34.36 | deonya | I like linux because its fun |
| 00:34.41 | pro | oh, cool thanks |
| 00:34.41 | deonya | and i havent used it since 1996 |
| 00:34.47 | deonya | lol |
| 00:34.51 | bob2 | Perdition: so use a boot disk reinstall it. |
| 00:34.58 | deonya | its really evolved |
| 00:35.06 | deonya | my god its gotten awesome |
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| 00:35.22 | pro | deonya, i like linux cause there is _nothing_ you cant make it do if you willing to go the distance |
| 00:35.47 | Perdition | <Bob2> if they dont have a boot disk? Can I download the .deb and build one from scratch? |
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| 00:36.10 | Infohawk | deonya, why will unix always be better than linux |
| 00:36.23 | brunner | Carp: check out dashpc.com |
| 00:36.24 | deonya | Infohawk: I just like unix |
| 00:36.29 | Pook | because of the hardware??? |
| 00:36.30 | deonya | but at the ratelinux is going |
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| 00:36.33 | deonya | who knows |
| 00:36.35 | Pook | sounds like a stupid thing |
| 00:36.36 | deonya | I am not saying linux is bad |
| 00:36.41 | mikelcu | bob2: actually I'm not clear on something |
| 00:36.47 | deonya | Its just unix has been evolving since 1964 |
| 00:36.48 | Infohawk | deonya, what do you use as a desktop machine? |
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| 00:37.01 | mikelcu | bob2: When the DEBIAN_BUILDARCH environment variable is set, builder-cc invokes gcc with the specified arguments, plus -mcpu=DEBIAN_BUILDARCH -march=DEBIAN_BUILDARCH |
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| 00:37.05 | deonya | Infohawk: Solaris and Linux |
| 00:37.10 | deonya | i have around 9 computers |
| 00:37.16 | deonya | I also use FreeBSD |
| 00:37.16 | bob2 | Perdition: you can make a boot disk from a Debian system, yeah, with "mkboot" |
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| 00:37.17 | Pook | you make a mistake in thinking ideas dont pass between unix and linux |
| 00:37.19 | pro | is there a command to make apt-get download a package and keep it in the /var/cache/apt/archives/ even if the package is intalled ? |
| 00:37.23 | deonya | And Syllable (atheos) |
| 00:37.33 | mikelcu | where do any other flags come into play |
| 00:37.34 | bob2 | mikelcu: ok... |
| 00:37.45 | mgrenon | does anyone know a good computer science book that explains the hardware and some of the electrical engineering involved? |
| 00:37.59 | Pook | pro: I htought it always did unless you did an apt-get clean |
| 00:38.03 | bob2 | mikelcu: I don't know |
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| 00:38.10 | mikelcu | fair enough |
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| 00:38.22 | g4lt | mgrenon not one published in the last one or two decades, no |
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| 00:38.56 | pro | mgrenon Structured Computer Organisation, by the guy that made minix |
| 00:39.03 | deonya | mgrenon: you turn the computer on and when lilo comes up choose linux |
| 00:39.04 | mgrenon | tananbaums |
| 00:39.06 | mgrenon | tanen |
| 00:39.09 | deonya | and type your user name and pass |
| 00:39.10 | Pook | deonya: wouldnt have a copy of IRIX on ya would ya? |
| 00:39.14 | deonya | theres amanual |
| 00:39.21 | deonya | no |
| 00:39.26 | deonya | I have AIX |
| 00:39.31 | deonya | on one of my I |
| 00:39.31 | deonya | b |
| 00:39.31 | deonya | *IBMS |
| 00:39.35 | mgrenon | deonya: I dont use lilo i use grub and what does that have to do with my question? |
| 00:39.36 | deonya | aix is sexy |
| 00:39.44 | Pook | I have an Indy with debian on it |
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| 00:39.51 | Pook | but I want to play with IRIX |
| 00:39.55 | Pook | impossible to get from anywhere though |
| 00:39.57 | deonya | indy's are nice |
| 00:40.06 | deonya | I have never tried amiga |
| 00:40.06 | Pook | nice and ancient |
| 00:40.15 | deonya | Pook: I know where to get IRIX |
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| 00:40.26 | Pook | where |
| 00:40.36 | deonya | Acually I think I may have a disc laying around |
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| 00:40.40 | pro | i used to have 16 sunfire280's the dual 700's, with 2G ram on each one.... that was one cool cluster |
| 00:40.47 | deonya | I've never installed it |
| 00:40.58 | Pook | hrmm |
| 00:41.06 | Pook | wanna make me an image (* |
| 00:41.06 | Pook | : |
| 00:41.17 | deonya | My best computer is a Sparc 64with 2 gb of ram and a few 250 gb hdds |
| 00:41.21 | deonya | its sexy |
| 00:41.25 | pro | i was given the hardware to play with for 2 months by SUN in south africa |
| 00:41.29 | deonya | 1 gbit ethernet |
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| 00:41.44 | deonya | i am colocating it |
| 00:42.42 | Pook | uni calls |
| 00:42.43 | Pook | ciao |
| 00:42.44 | Candover | IRIX is a whole bunch of disks - two base disks, another three or so worth of development tools, at least two for the most recent subrelease.... |
| 00:43.00 | Diesect | Question: has anyone ever gotten a Linksys Wireless-G PCMCIA Network Adapter (WPC54G) working with debian? Or a USB Linksys Wireless-B network adapter? |
| 00:43.04 | deonya | BTW does anyone want a free Ircd shell, I own a shell server and i need promos |
| 00:43.04 | mgrenon | pro: his books are not very popular are they :) |
| 00:43.09 | Pook | Candover: any ideas where I could find images? |
| 00:43.10 | deonya | its on OC-48 |
| 00:43.12 | deonya | FreeBSD 5.2 |
| 00:43.59 | deonya | I am also looking for admins |
| 00:44.07 | petemc | deonya: i'll admin your box |
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| 00:44.10 | Pook | can I stream porn through it? |
| 00:44.11 | ocran | Hey guys |
| 00:44.16 | Diesect | deonya: what responsibilities are there for the admins? |
| 00:44.33 | deonya | Diesect: Maintainence and porting |
| 00:44.37 | deonya | tech support |
| 00:44.39 | deonya | adding accounts |
| 00:44.45 | ocran | I have a problem, I have this program that I have to run, and it is only avaliable for solaris or hp-ux, which one would I have best luck running? |
| 00:44.47 | deonya | managing finances |
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| 00:45.08 | deonya | ocran: what prog/ |
| 00:45.09 | |stefan| | anyone knows a good lightweight window manager ? |
| 00:45.15 | Pook | ocran: cant get the code? |
| 00:45.22 | deonya | |stefan|: fluxbox |
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| 00:45.27 | petemc | |stefan|: xfce4 |
| 00:45.44 | gaimer | when i use SSL to check mail on a IMAP server, do i HAVE TO put in the SSL key and certifiacte, etc |
| 00:45.47 | deonya | |stefan|: fluxbox, icewm, openbox, twm, mwm |
| 00:45.50 | |stefan| | deonya i'm running fluxbox now. but it's not working right.. |
| 00:45.52 | gaimer | or is "enable SSL" sufficient? |
| 00:45.55 | tcsetattr | stefan, get pwm or twm. fluxbox and xfce4 don't even end in "wm", how good can they be? |
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| 00:46.06 | ocran | deonya Pook Unigraphics NX 2 |
| 00:46.19 | petemc | tcsetattr: have you tried xfce4? |
| 00:46.20 | simonrvn | tcsetattr: ? |
| 00:46.24 | deonya | freshmeat.net |
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| 00:46.28 | simonrvn | petemc: i bet not |
| 00:46.31 | tcsetattr | a window manager that doesn't end in "wm" is like a newsreader that doesn't end in "rn" |
| 00:46.36 | deonya | |stefan|: how much ram do youhave? |
| 00:46.39 | tcsetattr | it's just not right. |
| 00:46.42 | petemc | !laugh at tcsetattr |
| 00:46.43 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! tcsetattr just cracks me up! |
| 00:46.46 | simonrvn | tcsetattr: pogue matone |
| 00:46.56 | mikelcu | bob2: the real problem isn't that script anyway, that is cake to modify. The real problem is that lots of people seem to be setting their own CFLAGS in the rules files |
| 00:46.58 | |stefan| | deonya it's not that. it's a bug i'm annoyed by. i can't change the time in that bar thingie.. |
| 00:46.59 | Diesect | deonya: how much time is required by the admins? |
| 00:47.06 | sunny256 | In Debian testing there are 57 packages on my system that is kept back. Is this controlled by the central .deb archive, and I guess that's because the packages aren't ready yet. Will the "kept back" flag be removed autmoatically, or is it anything I have to do? |
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| 00:47.17 | deonya | Diesect: around 10 hours a week |
| 00:47.19 | deonya | at most |
| 00:47.27 | Diesect | hrm... thats not bad at all |
| 00:47.27 | gaimer | when i use SSL to check mail on a IMAP server, do i HAVE TO put in the SSL key and certifiacte, etc |
| 00:47.31 | g4lt | sunny256 is this woody? |
| 00:47.33 | gaimer | or is "enable SSL" sufficient? |
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| 00:47.36 | deonya | maybe even 5 |
| 00:47.42 | deonya | tell the customers to fuck off and go to bed |
| 00:47.43 | deonya | lol |
| 00:47.51 | petemc | sunny256: using upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 00:47.51 | sunny256 | g4lt: No, sarge. I ran dis-tupgrade a couple of months ago or so |
| 00:47.53 | bob2 | mikelcu: yes, which is fine, since policy mandates it |
| 00:47.59 | g4lt | sunny256 then RTFM |
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| 00:48.00 | simonrvn | @tell gaimer about repeat |
| 00:48.08 | Diesect | deonya: are you offering a shell service or what? |
| 00:48.09 | junix | anyone know of a good guide for compiling a new kernel, kernelnewbies.org is down atm |
| 00:48.11 | FieldySnuts | !rtfm sunny256 |
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| 00:48.23 | Pook | junix: use make-kpkg |
| 00:48.25 | deonya | Diesect: and webhost |
| 00:48.30 | deonya | ing |
| 00:48.33 | tcsetattr | gaimer, the server may or may not require SSL client certificates. Ask the server admin. |
| 00:48.36 | mgrenon | has anyone here read tanenbaums book on operating systems? |
| 00:48.37 | Pook | install code |
| 00:48.40 | Pook | make menuconfig |
| 00:48.44 | simonrvn | gaimer: try being clearer, and maybe someone will answer |
| 00:48.46 | bob2 | tcsetattr: or a mail reader that doesn't end in "mutt" |
| 00:48.50 | junix | Pook: i was told to download the 2.6.3 stock and use that |
| 00:48.55 | Pook | then make-kpkh kernel-image --append-to-version -my-kernel |
| 00:48.57 | junix | what is make-pkg? |
| 00:49.00 | g4lt | if you can't understand apt, get the hell out of sarge |
| 00:49.01 | bucky | mgrenon, linus did, just for fun |
| 00:49.07 | sunny256 | Wow, my two first RTFMs ever and with a few seconds interval. Cool :) I'll see |
| 00:49.09 | pabl0 | I have XFREE 4.3 (SID), which other package should I download to have the X cursors? |
| 00:49.11 | sunny256 | what I'll find |
| 00:49.14 | mgrenon | bucky: is it a worthwhile book? |
| 00:49.14 | gaimer | i enabled SSL and did not enter "key" or "certificate" and still was able to check my mail, does that mean SSL can work without key or certificate, or that SSL simply wasnt supported |
| 00:49.19 | Pook | it compiles your kernel and modules and makes a debian package for you to install |
| 00:49.26 | mgrenon | bucky: will i have to own minix to really use it? |
| 00:49.38 | FieldySnuts | uh |
| 00:49.49 | bucky | mgrenon, is this for school or something? |
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| 00:49.58 | simonrvn | pabl0: try searching for it. apt-cache search. should know that if you installed sid. otherwsie you shouldn't be running sid at all |
| 00:50.02 | tcsetattr | gaimer, are you running the server? or are you just a user? |
| 00:50.04 | mikelcu | bob2: that makes it a little tricky to build your own packages without editing rules files |
| 00:50.09 | bucky | !start a distro war |
| 00:50.10 | dpkg | RedHat owns! |
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| 00:50.17 | bob2 | mikelcu: no it doesn't |
| 00:50.19 | gaimer | i am just a user |
| 00:50.24 | gaimer | in a campus network |
| 00:50.30 | bob2 | mikelcu: it makes it a little tricky to build them with 31337 optimisations |
| 00:50.34 | mgrenon | bucky: no i just want to learn alot |
| 00:50.44 | simonrvn | gaimer: you have to have a server cert, clients aren't required to have one usually. |
| 00:50.48 | junix | Pook: is that tool that i can install using apt-get? |
| 00:50.49 | bob2 | mikelcu: but that's the point of pentium-builder, it overrides the sensible CFLAGS the maintainer set |
| 00:50.57 | darinlh | greetings |
| 00:51.00 | mikelcu | bob2: actually it doesn't |
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| 00:51.12 | mikelcu | bob2: all it sets are -march and -mcpu |
| 00:51.13 | tcsetattr | gaimer, you're just accessing a server that doesn't require you to have a client certificate. SSL can do two-way authentication (with a certificate on the server and one on the client) or it can do one-way (with a cert on the server and a plain old password on the client) |
| 00:51.14 | g4lt | mgrenon then getting minix without Tannenbaum's book is just unwise. get the book, you get a license for minix |
| 00:51.19 | giani | whysis the PHP package in stable so out of date? |
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| 00:51.31 | g4lt | !tell giani about stable |
| 00:51.49 | myXtie | simonrvn sid spelled backwards is dis :P |
| 00:51.49 | darinlh | anyone know how to rebuild lilo on a drive with a bootable cd :( |
| 00:51.50 | giani | umm |
| 00:51.53 | gaimer | but it still offers the same kind of security of SSL right? |
| 00:52.02 | simonrvn | myXtie: hehe |
| 00:52.02 | giani | doesn't answer my question. |
| 00:52.17 | pro | darinlh yip... |
| 00:52.19 | giani | actually. |
| 00:52.21 | giani | whatever |
| 00:52.25 | bob2 | giani: stable isn't updated for new software |
| 00:52.26 | simonrvn | gaimer: if the ssl transaction is successful, yes |
| 00:52.28 | bob2 | that's the point |
| 00:52.32 | giani | bob gotcha |
| 00:52.34 | bob2 | if you want a newer php, go nuts |
| 00:52.41 | bob2 | but stable only gets security updates |
| 00:52.42 | g4lt | what part of "no packages will be....changed" don't you get |
| 00:52.43 | giani | as in go 'testing' ? |
| 00:52.43 | Arkainium | i've compiled a custom 2.6 kernel on sarge, but when i try to boot with it, the system holds up when it's starting the periodic command scheduler: cron. any ideas? |
| 00:52.54 | bucky | bob2, that's especially true with debian |
| 00:53.01 | mgrenon | g4lt: do you have any other suggestions on books? hmm maybe i need a electrical engineering book too electricity and data fascinates me |
| 00:53.03 | darinlh | pro you have a link or a hint I am out of idea's |
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| 00:53.28 | pro | darinlh you want to boot the cd with lilo? or you want to intall lilo onto a hard disk after you booted from a cd |
| 00:53.38 | g4lt | mgrenon Kernighan and Ritchie's introduction to C |
| 00:53.38 | tcsetattr | darinlh, boot the cd, mount your hard drive, chroot to it, edit lilo.conf, rerun lilo |
| 00:54.06 | mgrenon | g4lt: I have that one! :) |
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| 00:54.11 | Gizzapolis | Hi |
| 00:54.11 | working | hi guys |
| 00:54.11 | spiekey | hi |
| 00:54.20 | Arkainium | and then I get INIT: and all the runlevels respawning too fast: disable for 5 mins |
| 00:54.22 | FieldySnuts | !start a kernel war |
| 00:54.22 | dpkg | 2.4 is buggy as hell! |
| 00:54.23 | Gizzapolis | Could I get some help, please? |
| 00:54.31 | bucky | FieldySnuts, lol |
| 00:54.31 | simonrvn | The_Vulture: yay, The|Chicken is back :). |
| 00:54.36 | g4lt | mgrenon also look at Kernighan and Pike |
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| 00:54.38 | working | I want to learn what is my kernel version, how can I do that? |
| 00:54.41 | tarzeau | simonrvn: there? |
| 00:54.44 | darinlh | pro 2nd one, I had to install xp on my /dev/hda and I have a current running linux on /dev/hda2 (btw chroot tells me I have no permission to /dev/hda) |
| 00:54.50 | spiekey | i have a laptop, german keyboard layout. But my > key wont work (the whole pipe key) |
| 00:54.51 | working | never mind |
| 00:54.55 | spiekey | any idea? |
| 00:54.57 | The_Vulture | simonrvn: ;) |
| 00:54.57 | Gizzapolis | I have some login problems, could someone help me please? |
| 00:54.57 | mgrenon | g4lt: they got books on stuff other than programming? |
| 00:54.58 | bob2 | Arkainium: google, you're being lazy |
| 00:54.59 | FieldySnuts | uname -r |
| 00:55.01 | bob2 | working: uname -r |
| 00:55.03 | gaimer | another question i have is that when i try to run vncviewer to my desktop from a remote machine, i only see a bash window, without the actual desktop, even though I am running gnome |
| 00:55.06 | simonrvn | tarzeau: i haven't seen The_Vulture use that in a while, or missed it |
| 00:55.11 | simonrvn | The_Vulture: :D |
| 00:55.14 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: /msg dpkg ask |
| 00:55.16 | working | FieldySnuts, bob2: thx |
| 00:55.19 | tarzeau | simonrvn: what about the mirror, now? |
| 00:55.21 | simonrvn | dpkg-deb: building package `libgtk2.0-0' in `../libgtk2.0-0_2.2.4-3_powerpc.deb'. |
| 00:55.27 | The_Vulture | it's just my backuup nick, I don't usually have a need for it, irssi just switched to it because The_Vulture was still in use |
| 00:55.32 | pro | darinlh can you mount your root partition ? |
| 00:55.40 | junix | Pook: is that tool that i can install using apt-get? |
| 00:55.41 | simonrvn | tarzeau: oh yeh. ask me tomorrow, or does it have to be now? |
| 00:55.50 | tarzeau | simonrvn: now would be great |
| 00:55.52 | simonrvn | tarzeau: right this second would be ok for me |
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| 00:55.57 | darinlh | pro yes it is mounted at /mnt/hda2 |
| 00:56.10 | simonrvn | or ASAP at least |
| 00:56.10 | Code | hi everybody |
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| 00:56.17 | g4lt | mgrenon not really, Kernighan is the programmer's writer |
| 00:56.21 | cristian_dban | hi help in spanish |
| 00:56.37 | cristian_dban | is possible? |
| 00:56.43 | pro | darinlh then cd /mnt/hda2 and type " chroot . " |
| 00:56.57 | g4lt | !tell cristian_dban about spanish |
| 00:57.29 | Code | How do I set other shell type, like tcsh??? |
| 00:57.36 | bob2 | chsh |
| 00:57.38 | g4lt | Code man chsh |
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| 00:57.44 | bob2 | but why would anyone ever use tcsh? |
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| 00:57.50 | Gizzapolis | I've shut down my linux pc when I was logged in (from another pc) at the same time. Now I can't even login with my root password. Please help! |
| 00:57.56 | darinlh | pro getting bash: /dev/null: Permission denied |
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| 00:58.13 | peterS | darinlh: that's kind of bad. /dev/null should be writable by all |
| 00:58.15 | Code | what's chsh? |
| 00:58.16 | pro | darinlh, if that does not work boot off you debian cd using rescue or rescbf24 with root=/dev/hda2 single |
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| 00:58.17 | cristian_dban | my server is en debian... el ip: 192.168.1.5, the router have port 80 habilitado. But i can´t se the web in other place (diferente a mi red interna) |
| 00:58.26 | tcsetattr | darinlh, you're using knoppix aren't you? get rid of the "nodev" on the hd mount. |
| 00:58.28 | cristian_dban | que falta configurar??? |
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| 00:58.34 | g4lt | bob2 sudden bout of sanity? ;) |
| 00:58.37 | bob2 | !+spanish |
| 00:58.38 | sussudio | !spanish |
| 00:58.38 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 00:58.40 | pro | anyway |
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| 00:58.45 | bob2 | cristian_dban: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 00:58.51 | Code | I have bash |
| 00:59.00 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: you mean you didn't shut it down cleanly? |
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| 00:59.12 | bob2 | darinlh: don't mount /dev nodev |
| 00:59.16 | cristian_dban | oki debian sp |
| 00:59.20 | bob2 | or / if /dev is on it |
| 00:59.24 | sussudio | cristian_dban: otherwise rahul with el pipo leddo. |
| 00:59.38 | Gizzapolis | bob2 > no, I was being stupid. I turned it out manually |
| 00:59.39 | bob2 | bah, as tcsetattr said already |
| 00:59.46 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: oh well |
| 01:00.05 | g4lt | cristian_dban I had the bot tell you all nicely and everything, too >:/ |
| 01:00.18 | baidfeis2 | gaimer, use better vnc over ssh |
| 01:00.21 | Gizzapolis | but I can't login now... What should I do? |
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| 01:00.24 | baidfeis2 | vnc is not secure |
| 01:00.31 | gaimer | what do u mean better vnc |
| 01:00.31 | qerter | C |
| 01:00.49 | tcsetattr | Abstract unix humor: mount -o nodev devfs |
| 01:00.51 | gaimer | but there's no way i can run X with ssh |
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| 01:01.06 | gaimer | i am connecting to my machine from a windows machine |
| 01:01.10 | darinlh | ok one sec |
| 01:01.20 | g4lt | Code you're making me suspect that you're not listening to me... |
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| 01:01.29 | Code | sorry |
| 01:01.41 | Code | is my first time in this xchat |
| 01:01.43 | baidfeis2 | amss sorry |
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| 01:02.02 | Code | Is there a way to a chat with you... |
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| 01:02.15 | g4lt | Code I told you to read the manpage. I can tell you again, but it won't be nearly as nice |
| 01:02.25 | Code | sorry |
| 01:02.48 | Code | is very hard to work with this xchat... |
| 01:03.07 | bob2 | Code: get a better IRC client |
| 01:03.13 | g4lt | Code there is, but I'm not willing to go into query unless there's an issue that involves revealing sensitive information |
| 01:03.16 | bob2 | Code: run the "chsh" command to change your shell. |
| 01:03.26 | Maquiavelo | anyone knows which home should users for virtual pop3 email accounts should have in exim ? |
| 01:03.33 | Code | oh yes.. a minute.. |
| 01:03.42 | Maquiavelo | I tried /var/empty like greycat suggested, but is bounced back as 550 Unknown local part |
| 01:03.42 | Code | chsh is from debian? |
| 01:03.54 | Maquiavelo | Whereas a normal user with a /home can receive the email just fine |
| 01:04.06 | bob2 | Code: it's a regular unix program... |
| 01:04.08 | g4lt | Code PLEASE tell me this isn't for another OS |
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| 01:04.29 | Code | yes..very good |
| 01:04.33 | tcsetattr | chsh is a standard unix command, not just debian |
| 01:04.35 | Code | thanks |
| 01:04.39 | junix | for some reason, when i partitioned my hard drive, debian didn't put the directories with the corrresponding mount poitnts, is there a way to correct this? |
| 01:04.55 | Maquiavelo | junix in /etc/fstab |
| 01:05.10 | Blissex | junix: you can easily manually edit '/etc/fstab' and create the directories yourself... |
| 01:05.12 | Code | no |
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| 01:05.16 | junix | Maquiavelo: what about all the stuff taht's in the directories already? |
| 01:05.20 | g4lt | tcsetattr uhm, it's not guaranteed in POSIX |
| 01:05.24 | Maquiavelo | anyone knows which home should users for virtual pop3 email accounts should have in exim ?I tried /var/empty like greycat suggested, but is bounced back as 550 Unknown local part Whereas a normal user with a /home can receive the email just fine. Anyone knows ? |
| 01:05.28 | Maquiavelo | junix it wont get deleted |
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| 01:05.48 | Gizzapolis | guys? could you please help me? |
| 01:05.48 | junix | Maquiavelo: will debian/linux move it there for me? |
| 01:05.57 | madjpm | Hi ! |
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| 01:06.00 | tcsetattr | well, it's not POSIX. Might not be guaranteed in SUS either. but chsh is pretty widespread. |
| 01:06.05 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: ask on the debian-user list |
| 01:06.11 | Maquiavelo | I dont think so |
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| 01:06.21 | bob2 | ew |
| 01:06.21 | Gizzapolis | bob2 > how can I do that? |
| 01:06.24 | junix | Maquiavelo: that's what i need it to do |
| 01:06.35 | Blissex | Maquiavelo: "550 Unknown local part" sounds like the problem is that the virtualing is not quite set up right, not the home is wrong. |
| 01:06.40 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: go to lists.debian.org and subscribe. |
| 01:06.42 | g4lt | bob2 one of them doesn't even have vipw :( |
| 01:06.44 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: then post to it |
| 01:06.45 | madjpm | I ve got a mesa,xfree,dri problem regarding a radeon 7500 anyone can help me or know this subject ? |
| 01:06.54 | tcsetattr | sysv barely counts as unix :-P |
| 01:06.56 | Gizzapolis | ok thanks |
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| 01:07.34 | cristian_dban | my server is en debian... el ip: 192.168.1.5, the router have port 80 habilitado. But i can´t se the web in other place (diferente a mi red interna) |
| 01:07.36 | g4lt | tcsetattr I was thinking SunOS |
| 01:07.42 | cristian_dban | in spanish... no saben |
| 01:07.58 | Maquiavelo | Blissex how can I setup virtual hosts in exim ? |
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| 01:08.23 | Code | but in terminal don't work |
| 01:08.29 | tcsetattr | SunOS 4 had chsh. Solaris is sysv, sysv sucks. |
| 01:08.36 | Blissex | Maquiavelo: depends what you mean by ``virtual host'' and which version of EXIM you are using... |
| 01:08.38 | Code | sorry..in console |
| 01:08.39 | bob2 | !+spanish |
| 01:08.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:08.42 | g4lt | cristian_dban I assume you've tried #debian-es? |
| 01:08.44 | Maquiavelo | Blissex woody's |
| 01:08.47 | bob2 | cristian_dban: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 01:08.53 | Maquiavelo | 3.35 |
| 01:09.03 | g4lt | Code which OS? |
| 01:09.05 | Code | there is a way in gnome to do this |
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| 01:09.13 | Code | debian |
| 01:09.20 | FieldySnuts | !cluebat |
| 01:09.21 | dpkg | *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK* |
| 01:09.23 | bob2 | Code: chsh works in Debian. |
| 01:09.23 | Code | with gnome in interface |
| 01:09.28 | Code | yes |
| 01:09.30 | bob2 | Code: are you actually using Debian? |
| 01:09.41 | g4lt | Code in that case, pop up an xterm, then man chsh |
| 01:09.41 | Code | but when I start the console don't start in tcsh |
| 01:10.03 | junix | is there a tool tthat will allow me to map the drive points myself, rather than do it via fstab/vim?? |
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| 01:10.08 | bucky | !the Passion |
| 01:10.17 | Code | yes.. i'll see in manual |
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| 01:10.27 | bob2 | junix: mount? |
| 01:10.34 | Blissex | Maquiavelo: Woody has IIRC a fairly old (surprise surprise :->) version, of EXIM 3. EXIM4 handles virtual host a fair bit better. |
| 01:10.35 | tcsetattr | junix, running "vi /etc/fstab" IS doing it yourself |
| 01:10.48 | g4lt | Code 1) PLEASE tell me you anre'nt trying to change root's shell, 2) the X session keeps variables like $SHELL for the entire session |
| 01:10.58 | junix | tcsetattr: yes, but i don't know all the options to put in.... |
| 01:11.15 | tam9 | http://linuxrulesthe.net:81/main.cf <-- my conf file. i am getting the error: fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 25: missing '=' after attribute name: "mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailbox_domains.cf" <-- anyone know why i may be getting those errors after restart postfix? |
| 01:11.51 | Code | in true.. |
| 01:12.02 | Code | my head don't work |
| 01:12.09 | Maquiavelo | Blissex are there any .deb exim4 for woody ? |
| 01:12.16 | Code | but there is a file that store this variables |
| 01:12.22 | bob2 | tam9: does it work if you remove the newline? |
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| 01:12.25 | Arkainium | bob2: what does that have to do with compiling a new kernel? |
| 01:12.27 | bob2 | tam9: how about the - in the filename? |
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| 01:12.35 | junix | tcsetattr: waht about all the stuff that is already in /home...if i make /home another mount point on the hard drive what happens then? |
| 01:12.38 | bob2 | Arkainium: what does what have to do with what? |
| 01:12.44 | Arkainium | and then I get INIT: and all the runlevels respawning too fast: disable for 5 mins |
| 01:12.48 | Arkainium | i've compiled a custom 2.6 kernel on sarge, but when i try to boot with it, the system holds up when it's starting the periodic command scheduler: cron. any ideas? |
| 01:12.50 | tcsetattr | junix, it will cover it up |
| 01:12.54 | g4lt | Code sort of. it's set from /etc/passwd. use chsh to change it <<<<< THIS IS IMPORTANT >>>>>>> |
| 01:13.03 | junix | tcsetattr: cover it up? explain |
| 01:13.14 | g4lt | Code again, are you setting root's shell? |
| 01:13.20 | bob2 | Arkainium: yes, google, it's a known problem. |
| 01:13.24 | bob2 | Arkainium: in the BTS, no less |
| 01:13.28 | madjpm | I ve got a problem when I use the dri-trunk package with xfree and mesa, my system is not fast enough. But when I use the normal xfree 4.3 package and xlibmesa4 no problem but no dri with Xfree :( anyone can help me ? |
| 01:13.32 | tcsetattr | if you have some stuff in /home, and you mount a new partition on /home, the stuff that was there before the mount gets covered up. |
| 01:13.38 | Code | I set in chsh |
| 01:13.40 | Blissex | Maquiavelo: I think there are EXIM4 '.deb's on 'backports.org'. However, it is possible also in EXIM 3. Have you hada look at <http://www.exim.org/ftp/exim3/FAQ.html.gz>? |
| 01:13.41 | Candover | junix: if you have files in a directory, then mount another partition on top of that directory, the files you had there originally become inaccessable (but not deleted) |
| 01:13.46 | Arkainium | bob2: BTS? |
| 01:13.54 | bob2 | !cluebat Arkainium |
| 01:13.54 | tam9 | bob2: yer a genius :) |
| 01:13.55 | tcsetattr | when you unmount the new partition, it will uncover them again |
| 01:13.56 | bob2 | Arkainium: /msg dpkg bts |
| 01:14.03 | g4lt | Code WHAT USER'S? |
| 01:14.04 | bob2 | tam9: which was it? |
| 01:14.11 | tam9 | i commented out the line |
| 01:14.15 | junix | tcsetattr: but i wanna make this permanent, sorry if i didn't say that b4 |
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| 01:14.18 | Code | in chsh is set to tcsh |
| 01:14.19 | tam9 | and then restarted it. worked perfect |
| 01:14.37 | Code | root |
| 01:14.53 | tcsetattr | is there any debian package that contains an equivalent to the BSD error(1) command? |
| 01:15.01 | g4lt | Code DO NOT >>>>>>EVER<<<<< CHANGE ROOT'S LOGIN SHELL |
| 01:15.16 | bob2 | tcsetattr: what does it do? |
| 01:15.24 | bob2 | tam9: you can receive mail ok? |
| 01:15.49 | Code | ever?? |
| 01:15.54 | tcsetattr | bob2, it takes the warnings and errors from a gcc run and inserts them into the source file, and then it can launch vi and jump you to the first error |
| 01:16.04 | bob2 | tcsetattr: oooh |
| 01:16.13 | junix | tcsetattr: ???? |
| 01:16.15 | bob2 | that sounds cool |
| 01:16.17 | tcsetattr | it's c00l. but I've never found a Linux version, so I just use a copy of the BSD source for it I downloaded long ago |
| 01:16.18 | g4lt | Code if yoyu MUST use a different shell for roo, do it via su -c |
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| 01:17.21 | tcsetattr | bob2, it even deals with multiple files so you can run "make |& error" and go clean up all the warnings |
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| 01:17.33 | tcsetattr | |& being zsh's shorthand for 2>&1| |
| 01:17.37 | bob2 | tcsetattr: is it under the BSD lcense (3- or 4-clause)? |
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| 01:17.57 | RUok011 | the topic says xfree 4.3.0-2 is unstable on certain archs, is i386 one? |
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| 01:18.14 | Code | no. |
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| 01:18.19 | RUok011 | my suddenly wont start, says Caught Signal 11 and just exits |
| 01:18.22 | bob2 | RUok011: yes |
| 01:18.30 | bob2 | so fix it |
| 01:18.31 | Code | i wanna tcsh in default when i log in |
| 01:18.33 | bob2 | then file a bug |
| 01:18.36 | bob2 | Code: chsh |
| 01:18.39 | darinlh | hmmmm looks like that worked thanx much brb |
| 01:18.41 | bob2 | Code: as a regular suer |
| 01:18.41 | Code | and in terminal in gnome |
| 01:18.53 | tcsetattr | bob2, I dunno, I'll go try to find an updated BSD source archive and see if it's still in there |
| 01:18.55 | bob2 | Code: so use chsh. logout and back in again. have fun. |
| 01:18.59 | peterS | Code: what part of "chsh" are you having trouble with here? |
| 01:19.02 | Code | becanuse in this "black screens" is work |
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| 01:19.11 | RUok011 | bob2: are they giving an etr on when it will be fixed? |
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| 01:19.21 | bob2 | RUok011: when what will be fixed? |
| 01:19.25 | RUok011 | xfree |
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| 01:19.29 | bob2 | Code: log out of gnome and back in again |
| 01:19.31 | bob2 | it's broken? |
| 01:19.36 | peterS | RUok011: real soon now |
| 01:19.49 | bob2 | isn't -3 in already fixing all the stupid dri stuff? |
| 01:20.01 | bob2 | I do get massive corruption from Xv, tho |
| 01:20.02 | Code | ok... |
| 01:20.06 | junix | how do i move a filesystem that's on hda1 to say hda5 and have all the files on that filesystem/dir go with it? |
| 01:20.07 | g4lt | bob2 he's just changed root's shell to tcsh thanks o our help... :( |
| 01:20.08 | RUok011 | bob2: i dont see -3 in unstable yet, somewhere I can get it? |
| 01:20.12 | peterS | bob2: the main DRI bug is fixed in svn, I know |
| 01:20.15 | Code | I come back in 1 minute |
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| 01:20.20 | tcsetattr | oh here it is: ftp.netbsd.org /pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/usr.bin/error |
| 01:20.29 | bob2 | !+info xserver-xfree86] |
| 01:20.30 | peterS | junix: the easy way: mount both filesystems, then use 'cp -ax' |
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| 01:20.31 | dpkg | Package 'xserver-xfree86]' does not exist. |
| 01:20.33 | bob2 | !+info xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:20.42 | tcsetattr | someone should package that as a .deb |
| 01:20.44 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 5334 kB, Installed size: 14920 kB |
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| 01:21.14 | RUok011 | bob2: ? |
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| 01:22.03 | junix | peterS: anything else after that, or will that jsut cover exactly what i want to do, and will that bringover permissions? |
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| 01:22.27 | peterS | junix: it will bring over permissions, and if you are root, it will copy file ownerships too. |
| 01:22.31 | Code | i come back |
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| 01:22.36 | peterS | junix: 'cp' does have documentation |
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| 01:22.47 | junix | peterS: i know, but i learn better from peers |
| 01:23.03 | junix | and faster |
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| 01:23.06 | peterS | junix: I think you misspelled 'peters', you left out the t there (: |
| 01:23.27 | Code | hi |
| 01:23.34 | Code | it's works !!! |
| 01:23.42 | junix | ummm...ok...... |
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| 01:24.17 | peterS | junix: cp -a means copy permissions and special files correctly, cp -x means do not cross mount points |
| 01:24.31 | bob2 | won't that lose hardlinks? |
| 01:24.34 | bob2 | and sparse files? |
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| 01:24.45 | GCBirzan | It should detect sparse files automagically. |
| 01:24.50 | junix | ok |
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| 01:25.36 | Justin_ | bob2: -a is dpR, -p is preserve the specified attributes (default: mode,ownership,timestamps), if possible additional attributes: links, all |
| 01:25.37 | Code | where the dude that i was talking???? |
| 01:25.47 | peterS | bob2: I'm not sure about hardlinks. it should autodetect sparse files. |
| 01:26.13 | bob2 | ah, ok |
| 01:26.43 | peterS | bob2: I just tested - cp -a knows about hardlinks |
| 01:26.48 | working | are the file systems listed under df all different file systems, do they overlap? |
| 01:26.50 | tcsetattr | just tried it with a 2-hardlink file in the test directory, it successfully mirrored the link relationship |
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| 01:27.11 | peterS | working: you can get duplicates in 'df' output, for several possible reasons |
| 01:27.11 | working | for example I have / as /dev/sda8 and /dev/sda3 as /tmp |
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| 01:27.14 | Code | what's the command to find a file whith the name in recursive mode |
| 01:27.26 | junix | peterS, bob2, tcsetattr:i'm going to do this to the /home dir |
| 01:27.27 | peterS | working: if you want a true picture, there's nothing quite like 'cat /proc/mounts' |
| 01:27.38 | bob2 | peterS: ah, cool |
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| 01:27.44 | junix | bbl |
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| 01:27.52 | jcole_zap | Code: find ./ | grep {filename} |
| 01:27.53 | jcole_zap | :) |
| 01:27.59 | working | peterS: looks like according to /proc/mounts I get the true picture in the df |
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| 01:29.08 | working | ok first of all what is sdb for? I have /sdb2, what is that for? |
| 01:29.21 | Code | tanks |
| 01:29.22 | dip | is there a way to download a package using apt-get with all its dependencies for a different computer without installing them? |
| 01:29.42 | working | it could be just naming, but does it mean anything different than sdax? |
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| 01:29.59 | sussudio | working: sdb is your second assigned scsi storage device. |
| 01:30.05 | peterS | working: different hard drive |
| 01:30.14 | g4lt | working sdb is scsi id2 |
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| 01:30.30 | peterS | g4lt: huh? not necessarily |
| 01:30.35 | sussudio | g4lt: no it's not. |
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| 01:30.57 | working | g4lt, peterS: thx |
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| 01:31.08 | g4lt | peterS I really don't want to get into how sd names stuff unless i gotta.... |
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| 01:31.33 | working | I guess what g4lt means is that, by convention that's how people name it? |
| 01:31.36 | g4lt | sussudio do you want to get into the discussion as to how sd names things? |
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| 01:31.43 | peterS | g4lt: fine - but that's not really an excuse for misinformation |
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| 01:31.59 | sussudio | g4lt: exactly as i said. sdb is your second assigned scsi storage device, not scsi id 2. |
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| 01:32.15 | working | guys, relax there is nothing to argue about |
| 01:32.47 | sussudio | you can put a harddisk on scsi id 0 and a cdrom on 5. the cdrom will be sdb. |
| 01:32.50 | g4lt | working acually, it's the second SCSI disk found on the chain. but if you have a SCSI ID 2 disk and aone on ID1, the ID2 will generally be ID2 |
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| 01:33.18 | g4lt | sussudio NO! CDs NEVER get sdX notation |
| 01:33.19 | tcsetattr | this is why mounting by LABEL= is a good idea |
| 01:33.19 | Code | don't exist rehash command in debian? |
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| 01:33.28 | bob2 | of course it does |
| 01:33.31 | sussudio | g4lt: scsi starts at id0. |
| 01:33.31 | g4lt | cod it's a csh builtin |
| 01:33.42 | tcsetattr | it's also a zsh builtin. |
| 01:33.48 | bob2 | and bash |
| 01:33.52 | working | let me give you some more information so you may have a better idea what is exactly the situation |
| 01:33.59 | bob2 | hm, not bash |
| 01:34.00 | g4lt | sussudio don't pollute the waters anymore TYVM |
| 01:34.01 | tcsetattr | no, not bash. Just tcsh and zsh |
| 01:34.02 | working | I have /boot at /dev/sda1 |
| 01:34.11 | sussudio | g4lt: you are wrong. you are polluting here. |
| 01:34.17 | working | the root / is /dev/sda6 |
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| 01:34.26 | working | we don't have any cdroms or anything like that |
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| 01:34.36 | g4lt | sussudio you are, especially when you say that a CD gets a sdX name |
| 01:34.49 | sussudio | working: sda6 is the second logical partition on your scsi drive. |
| 01:35.03 | sussudio | g4lt: i am right and you know it. i am putting you on ignore now. |
| 01:35.05 | g4lt | sussudio it's an entirely different module: sr_mod, therefore a different devalias |
| 01:35.33 | sussudio | don't need any more of that nonsense. |
| 01:35.40 | working | I have /dev/sda2 for /var and /dev/sda3 for /tmp |
| 01:35.58 | peterS | sussudio: you are both wrong. g4lt started the misinformation, but your claim that CD-ROMs get 'sd' devices is also wrong. |
| 01:36.23 | g4lt | working sounds a bit over the top, but so far so good |
| 01:36.31 | peterS | sussudio: in IDE-land, you'd be correct. IDE CD-ROMs get 'hd' devices. |
| 01:37.05 | Code | Is there a way to I install jdk in apt? |
| 01:37.09 | working | ok, here is another related question, how can we understand the number of hard disks at the system |
| 01:37.18 | working | not file systems, but physical hard disks |
| 01:37.19 | Code | all whith virtual machine? |
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| 01:37.27 | peterS | working: cat /proc/partitions |
| 01:37.31 | sussudio | working: count them. sda + sdb = two harddisks. |
| 01:37.34 | peterS | working: it will tell you all about disks and partitions that the system knows about |
| 01:37.53 | peterS | working: as sussudio says, each sd"X" is a new hard disk. numbers after that device name are partitions. |
| 01:37.58 | arauko | hi, when i play a movie using mplayer, it has no sound, anyone could give a try and test the movie using mplayer to see if the movie has sound? |
| 01:38.22 | working | ok, great to know that, thanks a lot guys |
| 01:38.35 | Gizzapolis | I can't login, because my login screen is messed up |
| 01:38.41 | g4lt | working cat /proc/scsi/scsi |
| 01:38.55 | sussudio | Gizzapolis: so type blind and do 'reset' after you login. |
| 01:38.58 | Code | good question |
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| 01:39.17 | Code | do you wanna confirm if there is sound in movie? |
| 01:39.20 | peterS | g4lt: the problem with /proc/scsi/scsi is that it doesn't list device names, so you have to map them in your head. and it doesn't show non-scsi-subsystem disks |
| 01:39.22 | working | g4lt: thx |
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| 01:39.40 | arauko | Code, yes |
| 01:39.41 | Candover | arauko: check over the diagnostics mplayer prints, it will tell you about every track in the file |
| 01:39.43 | tcsetattr | arauko, thet status line of mplayer lets you know if the file contains sound or not. If there's a A: timer as well as a V: timer, it has sound |
| 01:39.58 | arauko | tcsetattr, i chgeck |
| 01:40.17 | Gizzapolis | sussudio: already tried that a couple of times. See, the thing is, I've shut down my computer manually (stupid eh), but now I can't login anymore, because it says there's another session open or something... |
| 01:40.20 | Code | I don't know |
| 01:40.30 | Code | but there is sound in interface |
| 01:40.41 | arauko | tcsetattr, check the error http://200.44.90.4/error |
| 01:40.48 | g4lt | peterS the problem with /proc/partitions is is's filesystems, which he specifically stated he didn't want ;P |
| 01:41.16 | peterS | g4lt: I don't understand the problem. it shows all the disks the system knows about. and their partitions, but it's easy to ignore those if you choose |
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| 01:41.19 | tcsetattr | no, /proc/partitions isn't limited to those with filesystems. It also shows my swap partitions |
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| 01:41.43 | g4lt | peterS are you smiley-impaired today? ;) |
| 01:41.45 | working | guys please, everything I heard was extremely helpful, every single of them |
| 01:41.49 | epic | what is a good programming c channeL? |
| 01:41.51 | dakine-ji | what does it mean when one tries to burn a cdr and the little cd light just flickers |
| 01:41.58 | tcsetattr | arauko, this is a pretty good indicator: AVI: No audio stream found -> no sound. |
| 01:42.02 | oulman | epic, #c |
| 01:42.10 | Code | your help to set the shell works...tthanks |
| 01:42.11 | g4lt | working it's okay, we're just playing the dozens :D |
| 01:42.11 | epic | they dont exactly help, oulman |
| 01:42.20 | epic | i just needed a quick question |
| 01:42.24 | oulman | epic, judging by the conversation you just had in #c |
| 01:42.31 | oulman | you need #cfornewbies |
| 01:42.43 | epic | :| |
| 01:42.51 | oulman | anyway. your question was simple enough |
| 01:42.52 | oulman | one sec |
| 01:42.56 | epic | ok |
| 01:42.57 | cristian_dban | hello again |
| 01:42.57 | thebug | oulman: you mean #visualbasic |
| 01:43.07 | Gizzapolis | no one? |
| 01:43.21 | arauko | tcsetattr, yeah, i see it... but what does it mean?.. do i need to load a codec or something? |
| 01:43.35 | tcsetattr | arauko, I believe it means there is no sound in that file. |
| 01:43.37 | diminished | Any of you guys had `sed` errors when configuring apache1.3.29 (not the ports) ? |
| 01:43.43 | diminished | :/ |
| 01:43.58 | tcsetattr | arauko, if you can tell me where to get the .avi file I can try it with my mplayer... |
| 01:44.38 | arauko | tcsetattr, yeah.... |
| 01:44.47 | arauko | tcsetattr, ftp://baboon.utalca.cl/movies/Linux_the_Code/linux-code-es.avi |
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| 01:45.19 | barto | where did k3bsetup went and where can i add users to k3b??? Debian Sid...really lost |
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| 01:46.08 | phr0st555 | hi is this an apropriate place to ask a question about knoppix? |
| 01:46.14 | tcsetattr | #knoppix |
| 01:46.22 | phr0st555 | ok thanks |
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| 01:46.37 | pbruna | is kde3.2 in debian unstable? |
| 01:46.43 | tcsetattr | arauko, I'm not getting a connection through to baboon.utalca.cl |
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| 01:47.11 | arauko | tcsetattr, it works here |
| 01:47.13 | guidance | how do i install SDL in debian ? |
| 01:47.28 | cristian_dban | i can´t see my web in other place diferent my net. The port 80 is available in my router |
| 01:47.33 | Code | do you need see the pachages taht you do... |
| 01:47.35 | cristian_dban | what is wrong??? |
| 01:47.37 | arauko | ftp://baboon.utalca.cl/movies/Linux_the_Code/linux-code-es.avi |
| 01:47.58 | Code | ok |
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| 01:48.06 | Code | wait a minute |
| 01:48.35 | Candover | barto, which version do you have installed? k3bsetup was broken in 0.10.3-1 and -2, fixed in more recent builds. |
| 01:48.43 | tcsetattr | 530 Sorry, the maximum number of allowed clients (10) are already connected. |
| 01:49.01 | arauko | tcsetattr, weird |
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| 01:49.39 | Blissex | pbruna: not yet. Just wait... |
| 01:49.44 | Justin_ | k3bsetup should not be ran under debian, I don't know why they even package it |
| 01:50.02 | tcsetattr | it's not weird, it's just a full server. Anyway, it seems the file has no sound according to what your mplayer said |
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| 01:50.09 | g4lt | Justin_ uhm, debconf runs it |
| 01:50.22 | g4lt | or actually sets the link |
| 01:50.24 | arauko | tcsetattr, yes, its weird.. cause i can get connected any time |
| 01:50.27 | Code | I cannot access the ftp |
| 01:50.43 | arauko | tcsetattr, wget it |
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| 01:50.44 | Justin_ | g4lt: and what does it do? |
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| 01:50.46 | g4lt | Code use apt-get anyways |
| 01:51.00 | tcsetattr | arauko, wget does not magically circumvent server limits |
| 01:51.02 | Justin_ | likely all it will do is screw up the permissions of cdrecord and random files in /dev/ |
| 01:51.16 | arauko | tcsetattr, well are you using wget? |
| 01:51.17 | g4lt | Justin_ it sets it up so that k3bsetup is run the first time you run k3b |
| 01:51.21 | Code | to what |
| 01:51.24 | felipe_BR | arauko did you download the file completely? |
| 01:51.38 | arauko | felipe_BR, no |
| 01:51.39 | g4lt | Code whatever you were trying to FTP |
| 01:51.39 | epic | FYC JTGE WJFKR |
| 01:51.42 | tcsetattr | arauko, please get a clue. when the server says only 10 people are allowed, that means you won't get on until one of those 10 people leaves. |
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| 01:51.53 | g4lt | epic BAD CAT! |
| 01:52.04 | arauko | tcsetattr, i can leave, and get connected at any time.... get it? |
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| 01:52.12 | epic | g4lt ? |
| 01:52.12 | Gizzapolis | I need help with my login |
| 01:52.21 | Gizzapolis | cuz I can't u know |
| 01:52.24 | Gizzapolis | It's sick |
| 01:52.27 | Gizzapolis | it won't let me |
| 01:52.30 | felipe_BR | arauko I guess you must download all avi file |
| 01:52.30 | tcsetattr | arauko, they might have different limits for IP addresses that are in Chile |
| 01:52.39 | Gizzapolis | I was about to cry, but then I found you guys |
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| 01:52.55 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: what was the subject line of your post to debian-user? |
| 01:53.00 | epic | gizz-apolis? wtf? |
| 01:53.02 | g4lt | Gizzapolis how are you trying to login? |
| 01:53.09 | arauko | felipe_BR, mmm.. well.. im mainly asking cause i ve been able to watch others file with sound while still downloading |
| 01:53.21 | Gizzapolis | Well, it's like this: |
| 01:53.39 | Code | e ai??? |
| 01:53.42 | resist148 | after upgrading thunderbird a couple of days ago in unstable i now just get a grey screen when it starts to load, has anyone else seen this? |
| 01:53.44 | Code | ate que emfim um brasileiro |
| 01:53.54 | bob2 | bah |
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| 01:53.59 | felipe_BR | arauko non-interleaved may mean that the sound is at the end of the file... maybe, I'm guessing |
| 01:54.00 | epic | resist148: i have! |
| 01:54.01 | Gizzapolis | I startup my computer and I type in my root username and password. But I get some kind of an error. It was after I've shutdown my computer manually. |
| 01:54.02 | epic | it sucks |
| 01:54.02 | bob2 | this is an ENGLISH CHANNEL |
| 01:54.11 | epic | you have to reload... :| |
| 01:54.14 | bob2 | resist148: What does the BTS say? (/msg apt bts) |
| 01:54.14 | resist148 | epic: is it a known problem? or what? |
| 01:54.18 | arauko | felipe_BR, sounds reasonable |
| 01:54.26 | Code | cannot speak portuguese here? |
| 01:54.27 | arauko | felipe_BR, i will have to wait |
| 01:54.37 | bob2 | !+portuguese |
| 01:54.37 | epic | resist148: no JOIN THE clue... NAVY! |
| 01:54.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:54.40 | g4lt | Gizzapolis is this in console or *dm? |
| 01:54.56 | resist148 | bob2: thanks i wasn't aware of bts =) |
| 01:55.09 | felipe_BR | arauko besides, some quicktime(tm) movies are arranged this way too, so you only listen the sound when the download ends |
| 01:55.15 | Gizzapolis | what is dm? it's on my computer itself, not in a console screen from another pc |
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| 01:55.43 | arauko | felipe_BR, yeah.. i think that might be the problem.. other people have been able to watch and listen perfectly |
| 01:55.47 | g4lt | Gizzapolis shorthand for xdm, gdm, or kdm |
| 01:56.04 | Gizzapolis | which are... |
| 01:56.11 | andr3w__ | can someone help please I installed kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686 in sid and when I try to boot it I get the following error: 'VFS: Cannot open root device "305" or hda5 |
| 01:56.12 | andr3w__ | Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 01:56.12 | andr3w__ | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on (3,5)' can someone tell me what is wrong or how to fix it? My old kernel is kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4-386 |
| 01:56.18 | felipe_BR | arauko what's this movie about, anyway? |
| 01:56.20 | g4lt | Gizzapolis in console or in X? |
| 01:56.26 | bob2 | !+worked with 2.4 |
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| 01:56.31 | arauko | felipe_BR, im in doubt cause like i told you ive watched others movies with sound not downloaded completely |
| 01:56.41 | bob2 | andr3w__: use 2.4 then |
| 01:56.47 | Gizzapolis | I guess in X, cuz it's not in a console... |
| 01:56.48 | bob2 | andr3w__: or at least follow the instructions |
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| 01:56.53 | arauko | felipe_BR, a movie about linux |
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| 01:57.00 | felipe_BR | arauko I know, but like I said there are some files encoded differently |
| 01:57.15 | arauko | felipe_BR, yes.. now i see... |
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| 01:58.01 | bob2 | andr3w__: you didn't add the initrd line to /etc/lilo.conf |
| 01:58.19 | Gizzapolis | IRC (Remote closed the connection) |
| 01:58.19 | Gizzapolis | <Gizzapolis> I guess in X, cuz it's not in a console... |
| 01:58.19 | Gizzapolis | <bob2> andr3w__: or at leas |
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| 01:58.26 | felipe_BR | bob2: are there more languages in dpkg besides portuguese? :) |
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| 01:58.44 | xtapo | can someone portscan my server, tell me of any ports I should close? |
| 01:58.48 | felipe_BR | !+spanish |
| 01:58.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:58.51 | bob2 | felipe_BR: /msg dpkg whatever |
| 01:58.53 | sgeigerbot | xtapo: no |
| 01:58.53 | Code | can be a codec trouble |
| 01:58.53 | g4lt | Gizzapolis o you have a nice graphical box that says username, or do you have a login: prompt |
| 01:58.57 | bob2 | xtapo: no |
| 01:59.01 | andr3w__ | bob2 when I add the initrd line I get error that it does not exist but it does exist in /boot when I check it |
| 01:59.03 | xtapo | ok then. |
| 01:59.11 | bob2 | andr3w__: then you added the wrong line |
| 01:59.13 | xtapo | why not? :-P |
| 01:59.14 | sgeigerbot | xtapo: If you are serious, scan them yourself and than list them here... |
| 01:59.20 | bob2 | xtapo: run "ntestat -puant" as root |
| 01:59.22 | xtapo | ok then, one second |
| 01:59.32 | xtapo | (I have nmap on here) |
| 02:00.19 | sgeigerbot | bob2: You should try "netstat -antpu" intead! |
| 02:00.41 | bob2 | hahahaha |
| 02:00.43 | working | what is the file size limit in linux kernel 2.4? |
| 02:00.48 | xtapo | ok, should I list them in #flood ? |
| 02:00.49 | bob2 | 2tb |
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| 02:00.53 | bob2 | your userland may suck, however |
| 02:00.56 | sgeigerbot | xtapo: netstat is more accurate than nmap |
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| 02:00.59 | bob2 | xtapo: of course not, we don't care. |
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| 02:01.06 | bob2 | xtapo: close down whatever you don't want running. |
| 02:01.14 | Gizzapolis | This is the 'error' message I get: |
| 02:01.14 | Gizzapolis | Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (none) tty1 (which is strange, cuz it used to be "ChiServer" instead of "none") |
| 02:01.14 | Gizzapolis | (none)login: root |
| 02:01.14 | Gizzapolis | Password: |
| 02:01.14 | Gizzapolis | PAM_unix[17]: (login)session opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0) |
| 02:01.15 | Gizzapolis | Linux ChiServer 2.2.20 #1 Sat Apr 20 11;45:28 EST 2002 i586 unknown |
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| 02:01.24 | Sub_Liminal | any squirrelmail buffs here? i'm trying to figure out how to create an admin account so I can log in, i installed the vlogin plugin and can't get in with my regular user names |
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| 02:01.35 | eMulePlus | hello guys |
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| 02:01.49 | kelan | if i install a kernel-image package from the regular package archives, and then want to compile and use a driver not included, will it work? or do i need to redo the entire kernel? |
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| 02:02.11 | xtapo | hold on a second, I used the wrong terminal.. |
| 02:02.16 | The_Vulture | if you can compile it as an external module it should be fine |
| 02:02.23 | felipe_BR | btw, I'm using testing on a P3, which kernel-image do you recommend? |
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| 02:03.04 | Code | To I serve SSH in my computer I need a fix IP? |
| 02:03.08 | s390 | i am installing on a s390, the setting up util-linux (2.11n-7) step seems to have frozen what do i do? |
| 02:03.08 | xtapo | here come the ports! |
| 02:03.09 | felipe_BR | I installed last 2.6.2 but I had problems with devices (psaux, video0) |
| 02:03.11 | xtapo | 9/tcp open discard |
| 02:03.12 | xtapo | 13/tcp open daytime |
| 02:03.12 | xtapo | 21/tcp open ftp |
| 02:03.12 | xtapo | 22/tcp open ssh |
| 02:03.12 | xtapo | 23/tcp open telnet |
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| 02:03.31 | xtapo | 110/tcp open pop3 |
| 02:03.32 | xtapo | 111/tcp open rpcbind |
| 02:03.34 | xtapo | 113/tcp open auth |
| 02:03.36 | g4lt | Gizzapolis there's no error there... |
| 02:03.36 | xtapo | 135/tcp filtered msrpc |
| 02:03.38 | xtapo | 136/tcp filtered profile |
| 02:03.40 | xtapo | 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns |
| 02:03.41 | *** mode/#debian [+o bob2] by ChanServ |
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| 02:03.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 02:03.43 | bztunk | xtapo: stop it |
| 02:03.44 | bob2 | retard |
| 02:03.48 | bztunk | haha |
| 02:03.55 | Maquiavelo | clipboard attack |
| 02:03.56 | Gizzapolis | I was kicked out because I pasted... |
| 02:04.07 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: yes, DO NOT FUCKING PASTE IN HERE |
| 02:04.13 | Gizzapolis | sorry dude |
| 02:04.14 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: post to debian-user |
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| 02:04.18 | kelan | is there a way to get the .config file that was used to make say, kernel-image-2.4.24-1-k7? |
| 02:04.25 | Gizzapolis | no nead to swear man |
| 02:04.34 | djm62 | Code: you don't need a fixed ip, but you may have trouble logging in unless you know your current one |
| 02:04.35 | g4lt | Gizzapolis it looks like all your problem is is that you bombed syslog pretty hardcore. do you get a # prompt, or another login: prompt? |
| 02:04.38 | agit | hi all, |
| 02:04.47 | bob2 | kelan: ls /boot |
| 02:04.48 | Candover | kelan, if you have the package installed, it's /boot/config-2.4.24-1-k7 |
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| 02:04.58 | s390 | any s390 users in here? |
| 02:04.59 | xtapo | bob2: you said you don't care? |
| 02:05.07 | bob2 | idiot |
| 02:05.11 | kelan | ah, great |
| 02:05.12 | Gizzapolis | I don't get a '#', but I did get it in the past... |
| 02:05.15 | bob2 | 13:00:51 xtapo | ok, should I list them in #flood ? |
| 02:05.16 | bob2 | 13:01:01 bob2 | xtapo: of course not, we don't care. |
| 02:05.18 | kelan | thank you, bob2 and Candover |
| 02:05.26 | bob2 | as in, "we don't care what ports you have open" |
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| 02:05.37 | bob2 | go close whatever ones you don't want open. |
| 02:05.37 | Gizzapolis | it's not really an error, but he won't accept my password anymore :( |
| 02:05.42 | working | how can I learn the block size my system is using? |
| 02:05.49 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: where is your post on debian-user? |
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| 02:05.55 | Code | yes...I need know the IP of this moment |
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| 02:06.03 | agit | I have some questions, how to test load web server ?? |
| 02:06.06 | xtapo | bob2: I'm sorry, I'm new and I don't know what should be open. If I did, I wouldn't come asking for support, would I? |
| 02:06.08 | djm62 | Code: ifconfig on the local box |
| 02:06.09 | Code | but my system needs a hostkeys |
| 02:06.10 | bob2 | agit: ab |
| 02:06.11 | kelan | Candover: if i install a kernel package like that, i can't just compile my own module, can i? i need to recompile it all to make sure the versions match? |
| 02:06.18 | bob2 | xtapo: *sigh* |
| 02:06.18 | g4lt | Gizzapolis are you at a prompt or at another login: after the error (just tell me, no need to paste) |
| 02:06.23 | Code | what's the function of it? |
| 02:06.28 | bob2 | xtapo: think for a second. are you the admin of this machine? |
| 02:06.28 | Gizzapolis | bob2: it isn't, It\s mailinglist, I\ll get spammed |
| 02:06.35 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: don't be a moron |
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| 02:06.46 | xtapo | bob2: yes... |
| 02:06.48 | bob2 | Gizzapolis: get a hotmail account if you're going to be a crybaby |
| 02:06.49 | Gizzapolis | no prompt, only login... |
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| 02:06.58 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 02:07.01 | bob2 | xtapo: so. only things you explicit "ok" run, right? |
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| 02:07.25 | s390 | help!!! |
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| 02:07.31 | xtapo | bob2: I know of some of the simple things, like email, mysql, but I don't know what the others do. like why I have a meeting port open or how I go about closing it. |
| 02:07.36 | g4lt | Gizzapolis looks like you'll have to do the repairs in single user mode.... |
| 02:07.40 | Candover | kelan: if you can compile it as an external module, go for it (you'll want the matching kernel-headers-... package). Depending on what you're doing, it might still be easier to recompile the whole thing. |
| 02:07.47 | ribnitz | ~tell s390 about ask |
| 02:07.48 | bob2 | xtapo: so remove the software running on it |
| 02:07.57 | Gizzapolis | g4lt > how can I do that? |
| 02:08.04 | soapee01 | allgo: Do standard Debian kernel-images come set up for v4l2?? |
| 02:08.13 | bob2 | xtapo: that was the point of netstat, it shows you which program is running on that port. if you don't want that program, remove it. |
| 02:08.14 | felipe_BR | xtapo, try apt-get install rcconf, then run rcconf |
| 02:08.14 | soapee01 | to all: Do standard Debian kernel-images come set up for v4l2?? |
| 02:08.15 | djm62 | Code: if you have webspace, you can write a script to upload your current ip periodically (ifconfig|cut|scp or similar) |
| 02:08.21 | s390 | any s390 installers in here? |
| 02:08.22 | Gizzapolis | I tried a rescue disk but I won't get a prompt there either |
| 02:08.26 | g4lt | Gizzapolis at this point, you may just want to reinstall, because it looks like a really heavy road for a n00b to run to repair your present installation |
| 02:08.31 | kelan | ok, thanks Candover |
| 02:08.36 | Justin_ | soapee01: do standard kernels come set up for v4l2? |
| 02:08.43 | soapee01 | allgo: sorry,didn't mean to state you specifically. |
| 02:08.45 | ribnitz | s390: all I ever see of that arch are the builddlogs for my pkg |
| 02:08.59 | Code | yes... |
| 02:09.02 | Gizzapolis | well, isn't there someone who could tell me, or a website? |
| 02:09.02 | felipe_BR | xtapo rcconf will not remove the program, but it will disable it |
| 02:09.09 | Code | I can get my IP number |
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| 02:09.19 | djm62 | what more do you need? |
| 02:09.38 | johnsim | hey guys, i am trying to install the latest stable release of debian on an old P166 except it keeps hanging when it tries to install the drivers. I was wondering if this is a common problem? |
| 02:09.40 | sgeigerbot | Code: Congratulations |
| 02:09.42 | s390 | i am installing on a s390, the setting up util-linux (2.11n-7) step seems to have frozen what do i do? |
| 02:09.49 | Code | why? |
| 02:09.53 | bob2 | johnsim: use a different kernel |
| 02:09.55 | Gizzapolis | The SSH module won't load, so I can't login anywhere... |
| 02:09.56 | g4lt | Gizzapolis I really don't know of any forum where there's people woith more patience than bob2 here. |
| 02:10.02 | bob2 | s390: ask on the debian-s390 list |
| 02:10.03 | sgeigerbot | Code: That's awesome. |
| 02:10.04 | johnsim | bob2: an older one? |
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| 02:10.15 | bob2 | johnsim: whichever, woody has 5 |
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| 02:10.37 | bob2 | s390: you're the very first s390 user I've ever spoken to on here, in a ~year |
| 02:10.38 | sgeigerbot | Code: Perhaps when you direct a response at someone, please add their nick to the beginning of the line so others can follow the conversation...and so that they know your conversation isn't part of another. |
| 02:10.48 | johnsim | ok, thanks. ill look into it. |
| 02:10.56 | Gizzapolis | ok well thanks anyway buddy |
| 02:11.04 | sgeigerbot | Code: It also makes you look better because you don't say something that is taken out of context. |
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| 02:12.00 | g4lt | sgeigerbot you know as well as I do that the nick won't stop us from taking it out of context ;P |
| 02:12.23 | s390 | there is not debian-s390 list! |
| 02:12.29 | s390 | there is no debian-s390 list! |
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| 02:12.31 | bob2 | of course there is |
| 02:12.47 | bob2 | how do clueless people become mainframe admins? |
| 02:12.50 | s390 | it is not listed |
| 02:12.55 | g4lt | bob2 it may be a closed-subscription list... |
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| 02:13.10 | Candover | s390: http://lists.debian.org/debian-s390/ |
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| 02:13.34 | s390 | we already installed ThinkBlue and Redhat and dicided to give Debian an try! |
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| 02:13.52 | s390 | thks |
| 02:14.03 | djm62 | does anyone know of a debianised cross-compiling environment for familiar? |
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| 02:15.03 | artichoke | anyone know of a good free streaming music / radio site? it seems that real.com is no longer free. |
| 02:15.19 | sussudio | !polls |
| 02:15.20 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or our army of rabid weasels will hurt you. Usually, people other than those with the exact same set up can help you and those who have sometimes will not be able to help you. Also see <ask> |
| 02:15.42 | bob2 | g4lt: "This list is not moderated, posting is allowed to anyone." |
| 02:15.48 | bob2 | so nyeh :P |
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| 02:17.24 | xsdg | djm62: "debianised x-compiling environment for familiar"? isn |
| 02:17.30 | xsdg | isn't that redundant? |
| 02:17.43 | g4lt | bob2 do you know how many lists are like that, but unofficially moderated? nyeh back |
| 02:18.30 | bob2 | hm, ok. |
| 02:18.39 | Sub_Liminal | heh |
| 02:18.39 | bob2 | I've never subscribed to a cabal list before |
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| 02:18.54 | Sub_Liminal | anybody ever use the vlogin plugin for squirrelmail? |
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| 02:19.07 | g4lt | dondelelcaro knows exactly who and what I'm talking about ;) |
| 02:19.28 | xsdg | "Cumulative Security Update...": Identified security issues in IE could allow an attacker to compromise a Windows-based system... This affects all computers with IE installed (even if you don't run IE as your Web Browser)." |
| 02:19.37 | xsdg | yay |
| 02:19.43 | djm62 | xsdg: maybe i wasn't clear, I'm wondering if there's a dpkg which will enable me to compile ipkgs on my laptop |
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| 02:19.50 | g4lt | xsdg quit pstin non-free shit;P |
| 02:20.01 | bitwise | how do I change the default depth from 8 to 16/24 |
| 02:20.07 | bitwise | which config file is that setting inside |
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| 02:20.36 | g4lt | bitwise dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:20.36 | xsdg | djm62: package in debian? I don't think so; you should be able to grab something from handhelds.org though |
| 02:20.50 | xsdg | djm62: have you checked with the people in #handhelds.org or #familiar? |
| 02:21.08 | djm62 | xsdg: d'oh-- very good point |
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| 02:21.43 | none_ | in a 'dpkg -l' what's the 'rc' status in the beginning of the line of some packages? its some kind of status, but does anyone know what it means, couldnt find it in the man page. |
| 02:22.07 | tcsetattr | none_, use dpkg -s it's easier to read |
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| 02:22.39 | xsdg | none_: there's a key at the top |
| 02:22.42 | bob2 | none_: read the header |
| 02:23.04 | none_ | yeah, ok found it with the -s option, thanks |
| 02:23.10 | tcsetattr | did anybody actually understand that dpkg -l header without extra help? |
| 02:23.19 | xsdg | I do |
| 02:23.25 | tcsetattr | ascii-art pseudo arrows |
| 02:23.43 | meff | anyone using firefox? how do i get it to save to a specific directory.. it just dumps everything in ~ |
| 02:23.49 | xsdg | tcsetattr: it's easy |
| 02:24.01 | xsdg | meff: tried preferences/whatever? |
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| 02:24.14 | mentor | tcsetattr: Make take a second look, but it's fairly easy. |
| 02:24.17 | tcsetattr | sure it's easy _after_ you understand it :) |
| 02:24.20 | buht | Cannot find GNU Libc 2.0.6 library required by TclPro. <--- anyone have any hiints on which package contains that? |
| 02:24.27 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: who do I know about? /me is lost. |
| 02:24.27 | buht | ive just addec libg++ |
| 02:24.36 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: :-) |
| 02:24.37 | tcsetattr | buht, glibc 2.0.6 is damn old |
| 02:24.43 | xsdg | that's what I thought |
| 02:24.49 | buht | tcsetattr : newer is fine |
| 02:24.53 | mentor | ~info libc6 woody |
| 02:25.00 | buht | ibg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 |
| 02:25.01 | tcsetattr | buht, glibc 2.0.x was not even a stable release |
| 02:25.06 | mentor | Even woody has 2.2... |
| 02:25.09 | g4lt | the moderation attempt in the inmoderated mailinglist, by my "friend" ;) |
| 02:25.13 | mentor | buht: Try build-essential. |
| 02:25.19 | buht | i just added libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 |
| 02:25.25 | buht | that it? |
| 02:25.32 | tcsetattr | no. glibc 2 == libc 6 |
| 02:25.38 | tcsetattr | you probably need libc6-dev |
| 02:25.43 | buht | got that already |
| 02:25.57 | buht | hrm |
| 02:26.11 | tcsetattr | then you're probably screwed. how old is this "TclPro" thing you're compiling? |
| 02:26.13 | bob2 | you can't install that |
| 02:26.15 | mentor | buht: IS that from aconfigure script? |
| 02:26.20 | buht | trying to get tclpro running on a sparc5/debian |
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| 02:26.29 | buht | mentor : yes a setup.sh script |
| 02:26.31 | bob2 | you can't have mroe than one libc6 installed |
| 02:26.40 | bob2 | and nothing will work with 2.0.6 anymroe |
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| 02:26.42 | dondelelcaro | bob2: without going seriously insane... |
| 02:26.51 | bob2 | well, yeah |
| 02:26.59 | bob2 | you could make a potato chroot |
| 02:27.01 | buht | dasmn aug 9th 2000, lame |
| 02:27.03 | tcsetattr | you could install it in /usr/local/lib |
| 02:27.04 | bob2 | oooooh, that is NASTY |
| 02:27.04 | buht | damn even |
| 02:27.11 | sussudio | bob2: but you can't make it drink. |
| 02:27.12 | tcsetattr | potato had glibc 2.1 |
| 02:27.21 | g4lt | bob2 sort-of. I know of people that have EVERY minor of libc since 5 on their system. It gets some pretty hilarious results sometimes ;) |
| 02:27.22 | bob2 | ah |
| 02:27.29 | mentor | buht: Look in hte script and see what it is checking for. |
| 02:27.29 | bob2 | slink then |
| 02:27.57 | xsdg | aah... slink... my first debian |
| 02:28.28 | tcsetattr | buht, try to find a version of "TclPro" that was updated sometime in the last 3 years :) |
| 02:28.30 | mentor | g4lt: For good reason or cluelessness |
| 02:28.33 | buht | mentor : glibc=`ldd PWLIN pwlin PWLIN. pwlin. 2>/dev/null | grep libc.so.6` |
| 02:28.49 | buht | tcsetattr : well apparently the linux one at the newest is old! hehe |
| 02:28.54 | g4lt | mentor a bit of both. it's a slack system |
| 02:29.12 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: how would you politely explain to someoen that they *need* to get permission to distrbiute modified works, regardless of how nice the author is? |
| 02:29.29 | bob2 | g4lt: which list, btw? |
| 02:29.33 | |XO | i can't have ext 3 on debian stable? |
| 02:29.35 | bob2 | g4lt: I wanna be rebuffed by the cabal. |
| 02:29.36 | *** join/#debian webmost (~webmost@pcp02630383pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net) |
| 02:29.37 | hacim | apt, start an OS war |
| 02:29.38 | | Unix is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 02:29.43 | mentor | bob2: Tell Ashcroft :) |
| 02:29.45 | bob2 | |XO: sure you can, /msg dpkg ig |
| 02:29.46 | xsdg | rofl |
| 02:29.50 | buht | mentor : any ideas? |
| 02:30.02 | g4lt | bob2 debian-legal. ask for Thomas ;) |
| 02:30.03 | tcsetattr | I still have libc4 and libc5 on my slackware system, as well as glibc 2.2. The libc4 is what it came with. I don't think I have any programs left that are using it, though. |
| 02:30.06 | bob2 | |XO: the 2.4 kernels support it |
| 02:30.14 | hacim | apt, start an editor war |
| 02:30.15 | | emacs bites |
| 02:30.15 | bztunk | dpkg start an editor war |
| 02:30.15 | bob2 | woah |
| 02:30.15 | dpkg | vim blows |
| 02:30.18 | mentor | ~find pwlin |
| 02:30.22 | bob2 | you're john galt? |
| 02:30.24 | webmost | apt-get dist-upgrade lost my 1024x768 display screen and left me with 800x600 and no choices |
| 02:30.25 | bztunk | hacim: wow |
| 02:30.28 | g4lt | bob2 overfiend might even rebuff if you're really lucky |
| 02:30.29 | webmost | wuzzup w/ that? |
| 02:30.31 | hacim | bztunk: ? heh |
| 02:30.32 | buht | mentor : its running "ldd PWLIN pwlin PWLIN. pwlin. 2>/dev/null | grep libc.so.6" which returns nothign, but i DO have the file its looking for in /lib |
| 02:30.38 | buht | mentor : wonder why it cant see that? |
| 02:30.51 | muaddib | Hello all |
| 02:30.54 | mentor | WTF is PWLIN? |