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| 00:00.20 | troubled | jo_: its possible the admin disabled scp in the config |
| 00:00.34 | jo_ | aw |
| 00:00.45 | jo_ | naw he hasn't set it up |
| 00:00.47 | peterL | holy shit |
| 00:00.53 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: ok i'll give you mine, its two steps. 1.) add what i'm about to paste into #flood directly underneath the "local_delivery" chunk in /etc/exim.conf 2.) replace "local_delivery" with "maildir_delivery" anywhere you see it in /etc/exim.conf |
| 00:00.55 | streuner_ | firey: so you have read /msg dpkg sound? |
| 00:00.59 | peterL | firey: as root, type the following |
| 00:01.00 | troubled | peterL: where?! |
| 00:01.08 | peterL | firey: chown .cdrom /dev/hdc |
| 00:01.17 | peterL | firey: adduser <your login name> cdrom |
| 00:01.24 | peterL | firey: then logout and log back in. |
| 00:01.25 | LorenzoGRR | anyone know where to find linux drivers for intel mobo E210882 ?? |
| 00:01.28 | peterL | firey: then it will work |
| 00:01.42 | streuner_ | !lart cafuego for ignoring factoid sound |
| 00:01.57 | dave_n | fooz: i got it working perfectly, thanks a lot |
| 00:02.15 | peterL | !cafuegosmite streuner_ |
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| 00:02.31 | streuner_ | peterL: how do you know he use it for his car? |
| 00:02.51 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: http://www.swissarmygeek.com/misc/exim.conf |
| 00:02.58 | firey | peterL:nothing |
| 00:03.16 | vaq|Web52 | ok |
| 00:03.17 | vaq|Web52 | sec. |
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| 00:03.31 | bishopdon | Does anyone here have an https virtual host setup that I could copy? |
| 00:03.31 | streuner_ | firey: start it in an shell and tell us what you get |
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| 00:03.39 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: i did both step now.. |
| 00:03.40 | vaq|Web52 | then? |
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| 00:03.58 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: send yourself an email, exim will automatically create the Maildir |
| 00:04.08 | peterL | firey: ... but don't paste loads of stuff |
| 00:04.16 | Ogre | where does debian samba stick its lmhosts file? |
| 00:04.19 | firey | streuner_: in #flood |
| 00:04.22 | Ogre | in /etc/samba/lmhosts ? |
| 00:04.32 | troubled | bishopdon: exim has transport option to auto create Maildir if it doesnt exist? |
| 00:04.37 | streuner_ | firey: nah, 1 or 2 lines are enough |
| 00:04.39 | troubled | must have missed that one |
| 00:04.43 | Ogre | And if so, why the HELL won't the samba wins server return an IP for hosts in the /etc/samba/lmhosts |
| 00:04.57 | firey | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 00:04.57 | firey | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 00:04.57 | firey | ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display |
| 00:05.01 | vaq|Web52 | flood |
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| 00:05.03 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon |
| 00:05.04 | bishopdon | troubled: not exim3 (the one in stable) |
| 00:05.12 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: do i need to restart exim |
| 00:05.28 | troubled | bishopdon: ahh, figures :) using exim3 |
| 00:05.41 | JimButton | damn, it is dangerous to work on a rw partition when drunk, i just deleted a bunch of files accidentally |
| 00:05.43 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: you shouldn't, its started in inetd |
| 00:05.53 | troubled | JimButton: were you root? |
| 00:05.58 | pingouin | JimButton, lol |
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| 00:06.07 | JimButton | troubled: no |
| 00:06.07 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: then.. ? |
| 00:06.15 | troubled | JimButton: lucky :) |
| 00:06.16 | pingouin | drinking or computing |
| 00:06.18 | JimButton | troubled: but those were still important data, not backed up yet :) |
| 00:06.19 | pingouin | have to choise |
| 00:06.31 | JimButton | troubled: well, most of my important data is not root-owned |
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| 00:06.46 | troubled | JimButton: backupbackupbackup |
| 00:06.56 | JimButton | troubled: fuck off, i know that :) |
| 00:06.58 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: I dunno. should work. |
| 00:07.00 | troubled | :) |
| 00:07.05 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: it doesnt!!! |
| 00:07.09 | vaq|Web52 | hm |
| 00:07.10 | vaq|Web52 | comeon |
| 00:07.11 | pingouin | troubled, how do you handle you're backup ? cd ? tar ? |
| 00:07.17 | pingouin | just to learn something ;) |
| 00:07.22 | JimButton | troubled: hell, i just started recover, and now i am browsing through all the dumped files |
| 00:07.22 | troubled | JimButton: i bet your will backup your files bi minutely now :) |
| 00:07.39 | troubled | pingouin: custom tar script to tape |
| 00:07.40 | JimButton | troubled: seems like most things are still there, but it is gruntwork |
| 00:07.44 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: did you mess with the config or just to a straight install of courier-imap from apt |
| 00:07.45 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: maybe courier istn set to use exim |
| 00:07.52 | pingouin | ok |
| 00:08.00 | pingouin | troubled, you have a DAT ? |
| 00:08.05 | pingouin | tape DAT |
| 00:08.06 | troubled | pingouin: dds2 |
| 00:08.07 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: i didnt mess with them |
| 00:08.09 | pingouin | ok |
| 00:08.13 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: courier doesnt use exim. Exim drops the emails in the Maildir, and courier reads them from it |
| 00:08.17 | troubled | so yes :) |
| 00:08.26 | streuner_ | firey: you need X to run xmms at all. |
| 00:08.26 | troubled | they are small tapes, but they work |
| 00:08.44 | vaq|Web52 | hmm? |
| 00:08.45 | firey | i got it :) |
| 00:08.49 | brunner | so since the windows source just got leaked... this means people can check for openssl and other gpl violations, right? |
| 00:08.52 | peterL | firey: playing? |
| 00:08.53 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: do an ls -la /home/$yourusrname/Maildir |
| 00:08.55 | firey | yes |
| 00:09.00 | streuner_ | firey: no in all cases, but mostly ;-) |
| 00:09.04 | vaq|Web52 | ls -la /home/$yourusrname/Maildir |
| 00:09.04 | vaq|Web52 | ls: /home//Maildir: No such file or directory |
| 00:09.14 | bishopdon | your user name |
| 00:09.15 | troubled | lol |
| 00:09.19 | peterL | firey: Cool.. you can either keep using that drive OR use /dev/hdb or /dev/hdd (whichever one the other drive is) |
| 00:09.25 | mtoups | apologies if this is a FAQ, i've been searching: MSIE on Mac OS won't grok my mod_ssl self-signed cert. apparently this is known. i am using "Redirect /admin https://url/admin" ; is there a way to tell apache to *not* redirect IE on Mac OS to https, but still redirect everyone else? |
| 00:09.27 | troubled | that was classic |
| 00:09.31 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: the sec. |
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| 00:09.40 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: like if you login as "superman" "ls -l /home/superman/Maildir" |
| 00:09.44 | peterL | vaq|Web52: typ ls -l $HOME/Maildir |
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| 00:09.54 | vaq|Web52 | look spam |
| 00:09.55 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon |
| 00:10.00 | firey | peterL: and its the command ln -sf /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom right |
| 00:10.07 | firey | xcept change it |
| 00:10.16 | peterL | mtoups: You cna do a browser version match |
| 00:10.20 | bishopdon | thats wierd... it didn't make the sub dirs |
| 00:10.27 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: did you send yourself an email? |
| 00:10.35 | vaq|Web52 | yep |
| 00:10.39 | charolastra | anyone willing to help me get sound running? (modules load fine; even sndconfig dedects everything but things still don't work (cat /dev/sndstat tells me so)) |
| 00:10.41 | charolastra | ? |
| 00:10.42 | peterL | firey: Don't worry about that one, do the chown .cdrom /dev/hdX though |
| 00:10.47 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: did exim have any errors in delivering it? |
| 00:10.55 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon: exim log |
| 00:10.56 | vaq|Web52 | ? |
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| 00:11.02 | troubled | vaq|Web52: maildirmake ~/Maildir |
| 00:11.11 | mtoups | peterL: i want to match and redirect all browsers *except* ie on mac os -- is there a way to match !iemac ? |
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| 00:11.14 | bishopdon | vaq: /var/log/exim/mainlog |
| 00:11.20 | troubled | vaq|Web52: and as root: maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir |
| 00:11.20 | vaq|Web52 | server2:/home/courier/web52/testbruger# maildirmake ~/Maildir |
| 00:11.20 | vaq|Web52 | maildirmake: File exists |
| 00:11.29 | peterL | mtoups: Redirect MacOS Classic IE users to www.icab.de ;-) |
| 00:11.32 | troubled | vaq|Web52: erase it in home dir and then rerun |
| 00:11.34 | Acid`X | dpkg test |
| 00:11.35 | dpkg | Yes, acid`x, you're still online. |
| 00:11.44 | vaq|Web52 | look #Flood |
| 00:11.47 | firey | peterL: i have too use that every time? |
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| 00:11.54 | k-man1 | is there some way of marking certain packages in debian, and being informed when there is upgrades for thos packages available? |
| 00:11.55 | peterL | firey: No, just once. |
| 00:11.59 | firey | o ok |
| 00:12.14 | peterL | mtoups: Just a sec |
| 00:12.25 | streuner_ | firey: no, one time is enough... |
| 00:12.32 | troubled | k-man1: just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. that should tell you |
| 00:12.44 | vaq|Web52 | server2:/home/courier/web52/testbruger# maildirmake ~/Maildir |
| 00:12.44 | vaq|Web52 | maildirmake: File exists |
| 00:12.44 | vaq|Web52 | server2:/home/courier/web52/testbruger# ls |
| 00:12.45 | vaq|Web52 | lol? |
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| 00:12.53 | vaq|Web52 | sry |
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| 00:13.01 | k-man1 | troubled, what i mean is, a way that will keep me informed non interactively.... ie email me when its updated? |
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| 00:13.10 | k-man1 | like a "watch" on a particular package |
| 00:13.19 | peterL | mtoups: You can *probably* combine a BrowserMatch and SetEnvIf directive |
| 00:13.23 | bishopdon | So nobody can help me with an apache/mod_ssl example config? |
| 00:13.35 | Jerub | bishopdon: have you tried #apache ? |
| 00:13.36 | troubled | k-man1: good idea. go setup that file watch on a debian http dir for the files you want I guess |
| 00:13.40 | vaq|Web52 | bishopdon |
| 00:13.41 | vaq|Web52 | dude |
| 00:13.44 | vaq|Web52 | comeon |
| 00:13.47 | vaq|Web52 | troubled |
| 00:13.58 | troubled | vaq|Web52: rm -rf ~/Maildir ; maildirmake ~/Maildir |
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| 00:14.15 | vaq|Web52 | i still dont get the mails |
| 00:14.15 | vaq|Web52 | . |
| 00:14.17 | peterL | bishopdon: NameVirtualHost 210.8.121.75:443 \n <VirtualHost 210.8.121.75:443> \n SSLEngine On \n ....,. </VirtualHost> |
| 00:14.21 | bishopdon | Jerub: good call, but I'm actually specificaly trying to figure out if there's any reason I should not load mod_ssl in the regular debian apache install, and opt for apache-ssl |
| 00:14.29 | andrew- | i have this line in /etc/crontab: 27 4,16 * * * /usr/local/f-prot/tools/check-updates.pl -cron but it doesnt seem to be working, any idea why? |
| 00:14.38 | bishopdon | like, is it incompatible? why would they have the second package? |
| 00:14.38 | vaq|Web52 | troubled: go to #Flood |
| 00:14.38 | vaq|Web52 | plz |
| 00:14.42 | troubled | sec |
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| 00:15.43 | k-man1 | troubled, yeah.. i guess |
| 00:15.49 | Zone | andrew-: look at /var/log/syslog for the time it's supposed to run |
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| 00:16.08 | LorenzoGRR | can you use redhat or suse linux drivers in debian ?? |
| 00:16.17 | vaq|Web52 | troubled |
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| 00:16.22 | peterL | bishopdon: Just load it in the reguular one and only specify SSLEngine On in your secure vhosts |
| 00:16.23 | vaq|Web52 | ? |
| 00:16.25 | troubled | vaq|Web52: something looks off. looks like it resolved your hostname to "$" or something |
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| 00:16.34 | andrew- | Zone, don t have this file |
| 00:16.34 | troubled | vaq|Web52: check yout config files |
| 00:16.38 | vaq|Web52 | troubled: which once? |
| 00:16.39 | peterL | LorenzoGRR: I'd not recommend it. What driver? |
| 00:16.45 | LorenzoGRR | erm |
| 00:16.51 | troubled | vaq|Web52: ill leave that as an exercise to you :) |
| 00:16.56 | vaq|Web52 | ey |
| 00:16.57 | vaq|Web52 | comeon |
| 00:16.57 | LorenzoGRR | the intel mobo lan driver E210882 |
| 00:16.58 | bishopdon | peterL: ok, now i just gotta figure out this cert nonsense |
| 00:16.58 | vaq|Web52 | i dont know |
| 00:17.01 | LorenzoGRR | thats the serial number |
| 00:17.02 | vaq|Web52 | much abour courier |
| 00:17.04 | vaq|Web52 | troubled |
| 00:17.11 | peterL | LorenzoGRR: Very new mobo? |
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| 00:17.15 | troubled | vaq|Web52: its not a curiour problem. its an exim one |
| 00:17.18 | bishopdon | vaq|Web52: your problem is not with courier, its with exim |
| 00:17.27 | Zone | andrew-: what does 'pidof syslogd' give? |
| 00:17.31 | bishopdon | beaten like a rented step mule |
| 00:17.31 | LorenzoGRR | Intel(r) Desktop Board D875PBZ |
| 00:17.32 | troubled | peterL: that you caf? wtf are you up to now? |
| 00:17.34 | LorenzoGRR | thats the mobo |
| 00:17.36 | LorenzoGRR | im not sure |
| 00:17.44 | LorenzoGRR | it has drivers for suse and redhat 8 and 9 |
| 00:17.48 | LorenzoGRR | but not for deb :( |
| 00:17.57 | vaq|Web52 | ahh |
| 00:17.58 | vaq|Web52 | troubled |
| 00:17.59 | vaq|Web52 | look Flood |
| 00:18.00 | vaq|Web52 | again |
| 00:18.02 | andrew- | Zone, nothing |
| 00:18.04 | troubled | bah, sec |
| 00:18.08 | peterL | LorenzoGRR: '/msg dpkg di' -> go to the website, download the debian image which mentions the intel drivers |
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| 00:18.37 | LorenzoGRR | ok |
| 00:19.18 | LorenzoGRR | thanks |
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| 00:19.19 | Zone | andrew-: apt-get install syslogd , set the cron job to run every minute, watch /var/log/syslog |
| 00:19.19 | peterL | I'm sure I saw one yesterday |
| 00:19.19 | Basic | Something broken on packages.debian.org? |
| 00:19.20 | Basic | Error: "ls " is not a valid search request |
| 00:19.20 | peterL | !tell bisc0tti -about root |
| 00:19.20 | Basic | searched for ls in package and that is what I get |
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| 00:19.21 | grendal_prime | you know..i flat out hat ftp servers |
| 00:19.27 | grendal_prime | hate that is |
| 00:19.44 | grendal_prime | ive never found one that was...reasonable configurable |
| 00:20.08 | grendal_prime | most of the time its an authentication problem that fks them up |
| 00:20.12 | Hawke | grendal_prime: sftp is the way to go IMO. |
| 00:20.14 | peterL | grendal_prime: proftpd works fine here with a mysql backend and everything |
| 00:20.14 | brunner | should be interesting to see if anyone on Planet Debian comments about the leaked windows source... |
| 00:20.23 | Jerub | I saw this being asked the other night, but I don't recall an answer. Whats the eta on firefox in debian? |
| 00:20.36 | firey | can anyone reccomend a good cd ripping software (ogg/vorbis) |
| 00:20.38 | caphuso | Jerub: /msg dpkg wir |
| 00:20.51 | grendal_prime | sftp...im talking about the damn server not the protocol |
| 00:21.03 | grendal_prime | anyway im still unable to figer out the problem |
| 00:21.06 | andrew- | Zone, doesnt /var/log/messages log crontab run? |
| 00:21.09 | Jerub | caphuso: tee hee |
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| 00:21.16 | pingouin | firey, look abcde (need cdparanoia, an ogg encoder, and idv2 for the tag) |
| 00:21.23 | grendal_prime | its starting to piss me off because for the most part i had it working fine for over a year |
| 00:21.36 | Jerub | caphuso: heard of anyone packaging it yet? |
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| 00:21.59 | caphuso | Jerub: the mozilla firebird maintainer |
| 00:22.14 | peterL | firey: Most X ones need a backend, I use kaudiocreator, which seems to work fine. |
| 00:22.17 | caphuso | Jerub: he didn't orphan the package, so there's no reason why someone else should do it |
| 00:22.20 | b00 | hello :) can anyone nmap me ? just one person tho please |
| 00:22.23 | firey | k ty |
| 00:22.31 | peterL | !tell Jerub -about firefox |
| 00:22.32 | Zone | andrew-: no, unless you have an alternate logging daemon that cron plays nice with (you'd know if you did) |
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| 00:22.35 | dondelelcaro | b00: why not nmap yourself? |
| 00:22.58 | caphuso | !tell marcm -about away |
| 00:23.01 | b00 | dondelelcaro: i want to see how /if rejection works here , and what the logs say |
| 00:23.04 | Hawke | grendal_prime: I know what you're talking about; but sftp fulfills the same purpose and is as easy as configuring ssh. but that's just my 2p. |
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| 00:23.17 | Jerub | peterL: Ironic, considering i packaged moz 0.8 because no one else had a package way back when ;) |
| 00:23.26 | dondelelcaro | b00: well, you should still see rejection if you scan yourself. |
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| 00:24.07 | dondelelcaro | eh? debian has had mozilla packages since the early milestones... |
| 00:24.28 | bishopdon | howcome every goddamn website on the internet has a different set of commands/steps to setup your ssl certs |
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| 00:24.40 | Jerub | dondelelcaro: when .8 was released it was several weeks before a .deb was created. |
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| 00:25.08 | Jerub | (thats my recollection at least) |
| 00:25.14 | Jerub | it was many moons ago. |
| 00:25.16 | dondelelcaro | Jerub: that's no surprise... but there have been debian packages of mozilla since 5.00b1 |
| 00:26.02 | mentor | bishopdon-dinner: tmtowtdi |
| 00:26.13 | peterL | Jerub: muaha, way abck when you probabl;y had the fastest box ;-) |
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| 00:26.30 | kittonian | the global path on the box is set with /etc/profile right? |
| 00:26.38 | Jerub | peterL: and even then, it took 4 hours to do a compile, and 30 seocnds to figure out I'd done something wrong ;) |
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| 00:27.34 | sandman | Since when does Debian do security for testing? |
| 00:27.42 | caphuso | sandman: it doesn't |
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| 00:28.00 | kittonian | am I wrong? |
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| 00:28.08 | kittonian | I need to set some system wide variables on the box |
| 00:28.14 | caphuso | sandman: only for a limited amount of time when its really close to being released and already frozen |
| 00:28.19 | kittonian | I thought I just needed to edit the PATH variable in /etc/profile |
| 00:28.32 | peterL | kittonian: /etc/profile works for bash etc yes. Not for [t]csh |
| 00:28.57 | kittonian | peterL: that's what I thought but when I logout and then log back in I can't just type python and have it come up correctly |
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| 00:29.08 | protein_origami | I've got a cluster of various linux boxes, and I'm thinking of writing a utility to parse /proc/cpuinfo to figure out what $PATH should be, etc. Am I re-inventing the wheel? Is the /proc/cpuinfo interface stable these days? |
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| 00:29.55 | Hawke | caphuso: I was trying to see that too |
| 00:30.06 | caphuso | Hawke: good, so it's not just me :) |
| 00:30.12 | kittonian | and when I type $PATH I get a completely different path then what I setup in /etc/profile |
| 00:30.22 | firey | peterl: having problems with kaudiocreator, says sumthin about the wav being deleted |
| 00:30.26 | caphuso | kittonian: check your ~/.bash_profile etc. |
| 00:30.28 | protein_origami | I've got some processor-optimized executables and libraries (dependent on cache size, etc.) for heavy-duty math stuff. |
| 00:30.30 | peterL | protein_origami: /proc/cpuinfo has never been unstable. |
| 00:30.57 | Hawke | protein: Ah, then it should be relatively stable. |
| 00:31.02 | kittonian | protein_origami: I need to set the variables system wide so any user can type python and get the python shell |
| 00:31.14 | protein_origami | According to http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9909.0/6.html /proc/cpuinfo changed around early on. |
| 00:31.24 | peterL | protein_origami: if you need to check $ARCH upon login, use 'uname -m' |
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| 00:31.49 | caphuso | protein_origami: a couple of wrapper scripts checking "uname -m", then exec-ing the real executable would probably be less arcane and more maintainable |
| 00:32.03 | peterL | protein_origami: Thart's a list archive from 1999, which is 5 years ago. |
| 00:32.28 | protein_origami | peterL: Yeah, I was hoping that it's stabilized in the meantime. |
| 00:32.41 | peterL | protein_origami: Like I said, it was never unstable. |
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| 00:33.11 | Hawke | caphuso: That might not be tight enough...he said amount of cache is important. |
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| 00:35.50 | Scalpel | Hey, I have a problem with my sound volume. Its either off or full sound, no in between. Anyone know anything about this? |
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| 00:36.24 | Hawke | Scalpel: What card? |
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| 00:36.31 | Hawke | scalpel: What drivers? |
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| 00:36.46 | Scalpel | it's a AC97 on a laptop |
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| 00:37.07 | nxtw | hey |
| 00:37.32 | kittonian | it works until I sudo to root and then the path is completely different. |
| 00:37.34 | kittonian | what's up with that? |
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| 00:38.01 | b00 | Can ip_nat_irc, ip_nat_ftp ,ip_conntrack_irc and ip_conntrack_ftp conflict with other stuff i have in my iptables? When i try to load those modules, i get this: ASSERT ip_conntrack_core.c:631 &ip_conntrack_lock not readlocked ASSERT ip_conntrack_core.c:631 &ip_conntrack_lock not readlocked; And the fwall is basically not working seems with these. |
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| 00:38.17 | wmfriend | hi! |
| 00:38.33 | Scalpel | hawke: any ideas? |
| 00:38.52 | Hawke | Nope...driver issue, probably. That's all I can really say. |
| 00:39.33 | wmfriend | how may I configure a DHCP-client? sorry, I didn't find anything on the net. |
| 00:39.39 | shifty | which debian boot floppies do i need to boot from the CD? |
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| 00:40.08 | assassin_bill | shifty the first one |
| 00:40.26 | shifty | assassin_bill: which is? |
| 00:41.08 | sandman | Since when does Debian do security for testing? It seems to work.. |
| 00:41.22 | lleandro | hi! |
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| 00:41.43 | wmfriend | shifty, AFAIK you need rescue and root floppy. |
| 00:41.53 | shifty | rescue and root? |
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| 00:41.58 | eeyore- | i don't really want to touch the ms source leak. the drawbacks seem to outweigh the benefits |
| 00:41.59 | shifty | which are on the first disk right? |
| 00:42.14 | wmfriend | yes |
| 00:42.23 | eeyore- | it's probably not "complete" anyway, probably missing internet exploder |
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| 00:42.28 | shifty | wmfriend: where at? |
| 00:42.55 | rahul | shifty: seems like you've completely ignored the existence of this world wide web thing. |
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| 00:43.31 | fooz | rahul the drunkard |
| 00:43.33 | zentrix | i have a problem with fam, it's preventing me from unmounting my drives, so i have to manually kill it every time, is there a fix? |
| 00:43.40 | rahul | zoof the fooz |
| 00:44.04 | shifty | rahul: ive looked but im sonfused about what i need |
| 00:44.05 | jabbera | how can the idea of complining a compiler just boggles my mind |
| 00:44.07 | rahul | zentrix: tell fam not to monitor those partitions? |
| 00:44.28 | wmfriend | shifty, look for a directory something */images/1.44/* I' don't remember exactly. |
| 00:44.44 | zentrix | rahul: but i'm pretty sure nautilus needs that info |
| 00:44.44 | rahul | jabbera: what's mind-boggling is your sentence. it has two meanings, both opposite each other. |
| 00:44.49 | rahul | zentrix: oh well. |
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| 00:45.04 | shifty | wmfriend: on the first disk would they be /install/rescue.bin and /install/root.bin? |
| 00:45.10 | jabbera | rahul: the how wasn't supposed to be there |
| 00:45.11 | maffelu__ | how do you read bin files? |
| 00:45.16 | rahul | shifty: well, I just got here, and I'm confused about what you don't understand |
| 00:45.16 | maffelu__ | like the ones in /bin |
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| 00:45.19 | jabbera | same witht he can |
| 00:45.31 | wmfriend | shifty, sounds good. |
| 00:45.40 | shifty | ok |
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| 00:46.51 | eeyore- | maffelu__: you don't, it's mostly executables ... precompiled code |
| 00:47.11 | maffelu__ | can't you decompile it? |
| 00:47.11 | wmfriend | hmm.. for that DHCP problem - noone any idea? |
| 00:47.13 | maffelu__ | I wanna read |
| 00:47.16 | rahul | eeyore-: I read executables |
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| 00:47.23 | maffelu__ | rahul, how? |
| 00:47.25 | rahul | maffelu__: um, why not get the source? |
| 00:47.27 | frealek | vi ;) |
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| 00:47.30 | xmoogle | hiya.. |
| 00:47.30 | maffelu__ | how? |
| 00:47.31 | eeyore- | maffelu__: go grab the corresponding source. source is fully available |
| 00:47.33 | Justin_ | wmfriend: you have not described a problem. |
| 00:47.36 | rahul | maffelu__: emacs hexl-mode |
| 00:47.40 | maffelu__ | ? |
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| 00:47.46 | rahul | ; |
| 00:47.48 | maffelu__ | I'm not that haxxxor |
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| 00:47.56 | eeyore- | maffelu__: dpkg --search /bin/<cmd>; cd /tmp; apt-get source <package-name> |
| 00:48.07 | rahul | but are you this haxxxor? |
| 00:48.20 | wmfriend | Justin_, just on top :) I only want to configure DHCP-client after installing my network-device-module. :) |
| 00:48.21 | maffelu__ | you can do dpkg --search? |
| 00:48.29 | Justin_ | !tell wmfriend about dhcp client |
| 00:48.32 | rahul | maffelu__: can't you? |
| 00:48.38 | rahul | xmoogle: none. |
| 00:48.39 | eeyore- | maffelu__: no, i just like to type something that doesn't really work |
| 00:48.47 | rahul | xmoogle: and stop using /me to get attention |
| 00:48.57 | maffelu__ | eeyore-, I have actually met those kinds of people |
| 00:48.59 | eeyore- | xmoogle: just the first |
| 00:49.00 | xmoogle | well i'm sorry if /me offends, it wasnt meant to. |
| 00:49.05 | wmfriend | Justin_, sorry ? |
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| 00:49.22 | rahul | xmoogle: attention-getting in general is not a good way to get the attention you probably seek |
| 00:49.40 | shifty | do i boot from rescue.bin or root.bin? |
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| 00:49.52 | rahul | shifty: what does the install doc say? |
| 00:49.53 | assassin_bill | root.bin |
| 00:50.01 | shifty | rahul: i dont know, i didnt see it |
| 00:50.01 | xmoogle | ty eeyore-, does that include X and a few basic things like a webbrowser and wget? |
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| 00:50.22 | rahul | shifty: ah, so you didn't try to figure this out using the stuff that's easily available |
| 00:50.30 | shifty | did i say that? |
| 00:50.32 | shifty | no i didnt say that |
| 00:50.33 | eeyore- | xmoogle: you *need* just the first. you *want* more. |
| 00:50.35 | rahul | shifty: well, I don't know the answer to your question, I didn't see it. |
| 00:50.36 | shifty | i said i didnt see it |
| 00:50.46 | eeyore- | xmoogle: need != want, 1 != 7 |
| 00:50.47 | shifty | mmm...ok |
| 00:50.55 | rahul | xmoogle: you need 0 cds. |
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| 00:51.15 | xmoogle | all i want is to install enough to get online and get more packages, i could do it from console but i'd prefer X |
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| 00:51.20 | eeyore- | true. you need 7 floppies, or two and reuse floppies, or zero altogether (debootstrap) |
| 00:51.29 | xmoogle | rahul, i'm on dialup, network install isnt possible for me.. |
| 00:51.29 | rahul | xmoogle: you and shifty should form a club |
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| 00:51.43 | rahul | xmoogle: that makes no sense |
| 00:51.51 | xmoogle | why does it make no sense? |
| 00:51.58 | eeyore- | xmoogle: look at what you're saying ... |
| 00:52.02 | rahul | xmoogle: because you're contradicting yourself |
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| 00:52.16 | rahul | "I have a network connection, but I can't do an install from it" |
| 00:52.19 | eeyore- | xmoogle: "i'm on dialup, network install isn't possible", however, "i'm willing to download all 7 cd content" |
| 00:52.32 | rahul | actually "I have a network connection, _so_ I can't do an install from it" |
| 00:52.35 | eeyore- | xmoogle: which, by the way, is far more data than you're likely going to need |
| 00:52.45 | xmoogle | my isp redials every 2 hours.. if im patient, i can wget -c an iso.. but network installs unless they resumed couldnt work. plus by getting an iso i still have a working system while the installer's being downloaded |
| 00:52.56 | wmfriend | Justin_, ok, thank you :) |
| 00:53.03 | xmoogle | i wasnt willing to download all 7, i knew i only needed.. well.. less than 7, but i wondered how many. |
| 00:53.05 | nxtw | wow. apt-get is downloading from two sources at once. |
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| 00:53.07 | rahul | xmoogle: so you're saying that debian's network install will work |
| 00:53.22 | eeyore- | xmoogle: network install is pretty resilient, it'll pick up where it left off |
| 00:53.23 | rahul | xmoogle: no one knows what CDs you need. |
| 00:53.26 | Hawke | rahul: netinst is the way to go. |
| 00:53.30 | Hawke | er, xmoogle |
| 00:53.31 | xmoogle | rahul i don't remember saying that.. i think i said the opposite |
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| 00:53.41 | rahul | xmoogle: you lied, then |
| 00:53.48 | xmoogle | how did i lie? |
| 00:53.58 | rahul | by saying that debian's network install won't work |
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| 00:54.05 | eeyore- | xmoogle: do something more positive than argue :-D |
| 00:54.13 | Ticktripper | Hi, I cant get alsa to work in 2.6.2 |
| 00:54.23 | rahul | when your condition for it working clearly applied to debian |
| 00:54.25 | Ticktripper | cant get it to load any sound cards.. |
| 00:54.30 | eeyore- | xmoogle: at the minimum, you just need seven floppies, no cd at all |
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| 00:54.41 | rahul | Ticktripper: did you say "y" to your card's driver? |
| 00:54.42 | jadenbane | I am planning on setting up a 333Mhz with Debian + Apache + perl+ ssh + Bloxsom + FTP + Remoting in with Putty this weekend and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions, tips, links to sites with relatively good info. I have setup redhat and college linux before but this will be my first Linux Server . . . Any tips? |
| 00:54.52 | rahul | Ticktripper: and all the basic stuff that you need? |
| 00:54.58 | Ticktripper | yeah |
| 00:55.00 | xmoogle | i really wasnt trying to argue, i'm sorry if i came across that way. but i was under the impression, from documentation and stuff, that network isntalls in general, including debians, would not work over dialup that redials every 2 hours. and it still brings my system down for ages doing it that way. |
| 00:55.04 | rahul | Ticktripper: so what's wrong? |
| 00:55.07 | Ticktripper | says |
| 00:55.10 | Ticktripper | sound card not found |
| 00:55.14 | Ticktripper | during boot |
| 00:55.14 | xmoogle | ty eeyore-.. i prefer isos tho.. wanna have a load of cds i guess :) |
| 00:55.29 | rahul | xmoogle: there is documentation for "network installs in general"? |
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| 00:55.45 | rahul | xmoogle: and they spread lies about debian? |
| 00:55.47 | Ticktripper | did cat /proc/pci shows card there.. but when i do cat /proc/asound/modules |
| 00:56.02 | eeyore- | rahul: dude, leave it alone |
| 00:56.05 | Ticktripper | err |
| 00:56.08 | xmoogle | rahul, no, but there are various pieces of documentation for several different, specific gnu/linux and *bsd net installers. |
| 00:56.11 | Ticktripper | i mean /proc/asound/cards |
| 00:56.21 | plugwash | xmoogle are you the same guy that used to hang around autism channels? |
| 00:56.26 | rahul | xmoogle: so use the one for debian to learn about debian |
| 00:56.28 | Ticktripper | it says --- no soundcards --- |
| 00:56.45 | rahul | Ticktripper: check dmesg |
| 00:56.51 | Ticktripper | did |
| 00:56.53 | rahul | oh, "sound card not found" |
| 00:56.56 | Ticktripper | yeah |
| 00:56.58 | xmoogle | if i made an incorrect assumption based on how the majority of network installers act to the best of my knowledge, and it doesn't apply to debian, then i apologise. |
| 00:56.58 | rahul | that's all it says about alsa? |
| 00:57.05 | Ticktripper | says |
| 00:57.14 | xmoogle | plugwash, i'm not a guy, so i guess not. |
| 00:57.29 | Ticktripper | ALSA device list: |
| 00:57.29 | Ticktripper | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.29 | Ticktripper | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.43 | eeyore- | Ticktripper: what chip? |
| 00:57.51 | hcsob | is there a viewer on debian for CHM files |
| 00:57.53 | rahul | Ticktripper: yeah, it is quite terse |
| 00:57.54 | hcsob | that's on apt |
| 00:58.02 | Ticktripper | :/ |
| 00:58.28 | Ticktripper | uhh |
| 00:58.38 | Ticktripper | .... gone blank hold sec |
| 00:58.48 | rahul | hcsob: tried browsing under the "science" section? |
| 00:59.24 | Hawke | Ticktripper: Does lspci say anything about a multimedia device or such? |
| 00:59.24 | Ticktripper | Cirrus Logic CS |
| 00:59.32 | Ticktripper | yes |
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| 00:59.46 | Ticktripper | Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] |
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| 01:01.00 | peterS | Ticktripper: ok so have you loaded the 'snd-cs46xx' driver? (I just got here, I don't know what you've tried so far) |
| 01:01.12 | Hawke | Ticktripper: the 46xx driver may work for you, or maybe not...it's not very reliable in my experience. |
| 01:01.21 | Ticktripper | yes |
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| 01:01.29 | Ticktripper | k |
| 01:01.45 | eeyore- | Ticktripper: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, check to see whether you chose to compile support for that chip |
| 01:02.29 | Ticktripper | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.34 | Hawke | Ticktripper: The 4232 driver might also do the job with appropriate (arcane) options. |
| 01:02.41 | Ticktripper | my src straight from http://www.kernel.org |
| 01:02.48 | peterS | Ticktripper: note that 'snd-cs46xx' and 'cs46xx' are two different drivers - snd-* means it's ALSA. tried both? |
| 01:03.00 | Ticktripper | yeah |
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| 01:03.18 | drakx | hello it seems my cdwriter gets detected as an ide-floppy, how can i prevent that? I have already put hdd=ide-scsi in lilo.conf |
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| 01:03.35 | eeyore- | drakx: rmmod ide-cd; modprobe ide-scsi |
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| 01:04.09 | Hawke | Ticktripper: Is that a desktop or laptop system? |
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| 01:04.11 | peterS | drakx: are you sure it's your CD writer detected as such? you don't have a ZIP drive or anything like that? |
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| 01:04.17 | drakx | eeyore-: there is no ide-cd module loaded |
| 01:04.26 | Ticktripper | desktop |
| 01:04.39 | Hawke | Ticktripper: k |
| 01:05.00 | jadenbane | heya umm does debian's apache package come ready to run out of the box (http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/apache) and could I use the perl out of the box? |
| 01:05.21 | jadenbane | (read: what is a virtual package?) |
| 01:05.34 | cef | eeyore-: drakx probably has ide-cd compiled inline.. |
| 01:06.03 | drakx | cef: my cdwriter keeps blinking |
| 01:06.08 | peterS | drakx: 'grep . /proc/ide/hd?/media' should say for sure which device is considered which type of IDE device. I mention this because it sounds highly suspicious for a CD-RW to be mis-detected as an ide-floppy. so can you confirm that you're indeed looking at the right device? |
| 01:06.17 | hephaistos | is cdrecord prodvd available in deb format ? |
| 01:07.12 | duckman75 | got a question.. what email client can i use in debian that will connect to Exchange 2k ? |
| 01:07.16 | eeyore- | hephaistos: why bother? growisofs, you don't need ide-scsi compatibility |
| 01:07.30 | peterS | hephaistos: I don't know, but 'dvdrtools', which is free software, is in unstable |
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| 01:07.45 | drakx | peterS: it says disk |
| 01:07.48 | DarkElf | I have a Linksys LNE100TX, and for some reason it's not working. It couldn't get DHCP info from the router, but even with proper manual configuration, it still won't work. The only errors I can see are timeouts, which are likely at this point. I'm trying to use the Tulip drivers from the 3.0r1 kernel 2.4 install. |
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| 01:07.53 | rahul | hephaistos: have you looked? |
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| 01:08.24 | rahul | hephaistos: (the answer to my question is no, since the deb is RIGHT in front of you) |
| 01:08.27 | drakx | peterS: I have an an old hardware btw, can not boot directly via cdrom |
| 01:08.46 | peterS | drakx: at least one device should say 'cdrom' for its media. you are saying it does not? |
| 01:09.01 | eeyore- | xmoogle: it's more subtle to read their email and drop phrases from their messages into casual conversation |
| 01:09.21 | drakx | peterS: all disk |
| 01:09.49 | peterS | drakx: something is seriously fubared then. have you confirmed that your hardware is OK? |
| 01:09.55 | hephaistos | peterS, and does a gui exists ? it's for a person who doesnt know too much about linux .... and i dont think a shell is the better thing for him |
| 01:09.57 | abovethelaw | hello all! |
| 01:10.00 | DarkElf | Packets are sent, I'm sure of that, but the card won't take incoming connections. At least, that's what it looks like |
| 01:10.15 | peterS | hephaistos: I don't have a DVD drive, much less a DVD-R, so I have never investigated |
| 01:10.27 | peterS | hephaistos: but I expect some of the CD writer GUI frontends might also support 'dvdrecord' |
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| 01:11.15 | drakx | peterS: hmmm... i installed debian on an old box using the cdwriter. Is it possible to use my cdwriter as a cdrom only? what parameters should i specify to do that? |
| 01:11.18 | abovethelaw | i have a problem with su, anyone can help me |
| 01:11.36 | peterS | drakx: if the kernel detects it as a 'disk' rather than 'cdrom', I don't know *what* you can do |
| 01:11.37 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: whats the problem |
| 01:11.52 | peterS | drakx: out of curiosity, what IDE chipset? |
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| 01:12.00 | rich__ | hi |
| 01:12.00 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, authentification failure |
| 01:12.20 | drakx | peterS: how do i find that out? |
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| 01:12.28 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: umm... your probably getting the password wrong :) |
| 01:12.31 | peterS | drakx: lspci | grep IDE |
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| 01:12.57 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, no, the pwd is correct |
| 01:13.07 | drakx | peterS: dont laugh :) 00:01.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II] |
| 01:13.23 | peterS | drakx: I'm not laughing. I have the exact same one (: |
| 01:13.23 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: have you done any mucking around with pam lately? |
| 01:13.26 | DarkElf | How do I fix a LNE100TX that won't recieve any packets? |
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| 01:13.40 | chris` | DarkElf: Buy yet another $10 nic? |
| 01:13.49 | peterS | drakx: the PIIX3 should be *well* supported by any kernel. very common, if older, chipset |
| 01:13.53 | bishopdon | DarkElf: LNE100TX is baseically a brand name, there's over five different versions of the card, are you sure you have the right driver? |
| 01:13.55 | drakx | peterS: oh. its just an old p75 box lying around somewhere :) |
| 01:14.00 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, i don't understand (excuse me i'm french..) |
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| 01:14.05 | chris` | bishopdon: They all use tulip though |
| 01:14.14 | peterS | drakx: if you had something newer I might suggest a kernel upgrade, but I don't have much faith that PIIX3 would have bugs fixed in newer drivers |
| 01:14.22 | rahul | being french is no excuse for lacking understanding ;] |
| 01:14.27 | DarkElf | bishopdon: Well, tulip seems to be the only one that works. Linksys' site also claims that that's the right driver. |
| 01:14.32 | tarzeau | rahul: hehehe ;) |
| 01:14.49 | DarkElf | chris`: I just bought the damn thing yesterday because I had the same problem with a different card |
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| 01:15.23 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: plugable authentication module, aka pam. Its what debian uses to check the root password when you "su" |
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| 01:15.32 | drakx | peterS: ill try rebooting without the ide-scsi and see what happens |
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| 01:15.45 | peterS | drakx: well, anyway, I guess you could *try* a newer kernel. 2.4.22 received a large IDE update, so anything greater than or equal to 2.4.22 might yield something of interest |
| 01:15.52 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: if you had changed its configuration, or deleted any key files, I could see that breaking "su" |
| 01:15.53 | relbs | anyone know if I there's a libglade.py python module for GTK2.0? I'm using glade to make some .glade xml files and I want to code in python, but I can only find libglade.py for gtk1.2 (python-glade)? Is libglade even the right module to import for gtk2? |
| 01:16.11 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, thanks |
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| 01:16.40 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: specifically it uses the config file /etc/pam.d/su |
| 01:17.01 | peterS | drakx: the other thing: does the BIOS recognise the CD-ROM drive as a CD-ROM drive? |
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| 01:17.10 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, oki |
| 01:17.12 | peterS | drakx: I mean during the early boot |
| 01:17.28 | drakx | peterS: yep. but can not boot directly from it though |
| 01:17.36 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: but basically all that file does is call pam_unix.so and if you had deleted that or broken it somehwo... I don't think you'd be able to login to the box at all |
| 01:17.54 | peterS | drakx: right. just wanted to know if the BIOS could figure out that it was a CD-ROM rather than a disk, which is what Linux seems to believe it is |
| 01:17.56 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: so basically, I think you're getting the password wrong. |
| 01:18.21 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, my password is right |
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| 01:18.58 | bishopdon | abovethelaw: can you login to a console as root? |
| 01:19.10 | tommy_ | why does CUPS detect my printer at parallel:/dev/unknown-parallel0 |
| 01:19.17 | abovethelaw | bishopdon, not, it don't work |
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