| 00:00.25 | eeyore- | hacim: for the most part i would think, having never touch real 2.6 i can't say for sure :-D |
| 00:00.25 | Hans-GNU | i need to know how can i mount one partition that in a lan? |
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| 00:00.25 | MooseMorals | Or rather, what do I have to do to stop it? |
| 00:00.50 | hacim | eeyore-: its worth a shot I guess to see what improvements I get |
| 00:01.03 | cyberlo | Hi folks. Anyone know where I can find more info on the default install of horde and imp under Debian stable? I seem to be having a problem connecting it to whatever the default Postgresql database (horde) as hordemgr... |
| 00:01.07 | hacim | eeyore-: any other patches I should consider while I am at it? :) |
| 00:02.00 | eeyore- | hacim: try just that first, and lowlatency if you feel lucky |
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| 00:02.19 | hephaistos | i added an user to the audio hroup but he still cant access dev/dsp ? any suggestion? |
| 00:02.19 | peterS | eeyore-: why lowlat for a server? |
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| 00:02.40 | hacim | eeyore-: from what I understand lowlatency is good for the desktop, especially X, but not for a server? |
| 00:02.43 | peterS | eeyore-: I'd think throughput would be more important than that last little bit of latency in that case |
| 00:02.46 | hacim | yeah, what peterS said |
| 00:02.49 | beth | hephaistos: are the permissions on /dev/dsp such that the audio group can access it? |
| 00:02.54 | eeyore- | peterS: well, maybe you want quick turnaround for pop3 processes |
| 00:02.59 | MooseMorals | helpaistos: Has the user loggged off/loged on again? |
| 00:03.04 | phogg | something, maybe installing login.app, has made it so that I only have one console available via ALT+Fn, and X now defaults to running on F2. ow do I change it back to normal? |
| 00:03.06 | eeyore- | peterS: dunno, it's a stretch :) |
| 00:03.07 | peterS | eeyore-: 1 millisecond instead of 10? the user will never notice |
| 00:03.08 | beth | hephaistos: and are you getting a permissions error or something else? |
| 00:03.12 | beth | hephaistos: also, what he said :) |
| 00:03.18 | hacim | eeyore-: nah, the users don't notice whats going on under the hood |
| 00:03.25 | hephaistos | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2002-03-14 22:51 /dev/dsp |
| 00:03.31 | hacim | eeyore-: thats why I am worried about it now, before they start to notice |
| 00:03.34 | FieldySnuts | !start an editor war |
| 00:03.35 | dpkg | ae users are clueballs |
| 00:03.53 | hephaistos | Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp) |
| 00:03.57 | caphuso | there are no ae users |
| 00:04.02 | FieldySnuts | yeah i was gonna say |
| 00:04.10 | FieldySnuts | !start an editor war |
| 00:04.10 | dpkg | nano doesn't deserve to be in BSD |
| 00:04.14 | FieldySnuts | ahah much better |
| 00:04.28 | peterS | FieldySnuts: wait - isn't BSD dead or something? like ae? |
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| 00:04.38 | FieldySnuts | i'd say so |
| 00:04.43 | caphuso | peterS: not more than usual |
| 00:04.47 | peterS | caphuso: ah, ok |
| 00:05.01 | eeyore- | don't let theo hear that |
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| 00:05.09 | peterS | eeyore-: like he's never heard it before |
| 00:05.18 | eeyore- | hacim: so, how has the 3ware SATA worked out for you so far? |
| 00:05.19 | beta3 | !BSD |
| 00:05.20 | dpkg | read also "bsd license", or a brand of free UNIX clones, freebsd for x86, netbsd for damn near every arch, and openbsd for paranoid people, or 00:48 < beta3> BSD stands for Bull Shit Distribution |
| 00:05.20 | FieldySnuts | remember, it's just a crash |
| 00:05.55 | Infohawk | I use kdm. I have gnome-core installed but kdm is not showing gnome as a session option. I also tried dkpg-reconfigure kdm but it's still not registered. How do I have gnome in kdm? |
| 00:06.02 | hacim | eeyore-: all I can say is... these things ROCK |
| 00:06.10 | eeyore- | hacim: good ... good |
| 00:06.20 | peterS | hacim: yeah, that *is* good to hear |
| 00:06.27 | FieldySnuts | what do you guys think of sata, and what sorts of thingsa re you using them for |
| 00:06.30 | hacim | eeyore-: I have a datasheet of someone who did some benchmarking, he found that with a 3ware card and software raid mirroring you couldn't beat the I/O |
| 00:06.52 | beth | Infohawk: maybe you need the gnome-session package? (guess) |
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| 00:06.55 | peterS | hacim: wait ... you have a hardware raid card, but you're doing software mirroring? why? |
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| 00:07.14 | peterS | hacim: I mean, wouldn't hardware mirroring be equally fast with lower CPU usage, or possibly faster? |
| 00:07.14 | eeyore- | hacim: that did sound odd |
| 00:07.15 | hacim | eeyore-: hmm, now I am not sure if this particular machine in question has the SATA or one of the others, but I've used 3ware and only been happy |
| 00:07.21 | Katsu | can i have x use xf86config and not xf86config-4? |
| 00:07.31 | peterS | Katsu: why? |
| 00:07.33 | caphuso | Katsu: yes, but why? |
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| 00:07.46 | Katsu | because i messed up my -4 file |
| 00:07.50 | Katsu | and i cant load x |
| 00:07.51 | caphuso | uh |
| 00:07.51 | hacim | peterS: no, on this system I am using the hardware raid, but thats what I found interesting is his benchmarks show that software raid with a 3ware is by far faster |
| 00:07.58 | eeyore- | Katsu: XF86Config is typically for X3, -4 is for X4 |
| 00:07.58 | Katsu | but the other file is fine |
| 00:08.02 | eeyore- | Katsu: syntax is different |
| 00:08.05 | peterS | hacim: in other words, 3ware hardware mirroring sucks? |
| 00:08.09 | caphuso | Katsu: that's about the single most stupid reason you possible could have come up with |
| 00:08.11 | hacim | peterS: it might have lower CPU usage, but apparantly it isn't faster |
| 00:08.12 | Infohawk | bet |
| 00:08.18 | Infohawk | beth: I have that installed. |
| 00:08.18 | eeyore- | Katsu: why don't you have X read /boot/vmlinuz while you're at it? |
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| 00:08.32 | sabmoc | im not seeing a lot of info on the subject so i might as well ask, does debian have reiserfs4 yet? |
| 00:08.33 | caphuso | Katsu: why don't you just fix your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? |
| 00:08.34 | beth | Infohawk: dunno then, I don't use gnome :) |
| 00:08.41 | peterS | hacim: sounds suspicious. lower CPU usage, lower PCI bus usage ... how could it be faster? |
| 00:08.47 | hacim | peterS: no, it doesn't suck as much as other PCI raid cards, but I think he found the built-in kernel mirroring to be faster, but ONLY with the 3ware cards |
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| 00:08.49 | peterS | hacim: errr, I mean slower |
| 00:08.57 | hacim | peterS: I'll try and dig up the pdf |
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| 00:09.21 | Katsu | Caphuso: because i dont know how to fix it. |
| 00:09.29 | eeyore- | hacim: wait, wait, wait ... you mean use the 3ware card as a plain controller and run kernel software raid? |
| 00:09.32 | caphuso | Katsu: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:09.44 | Katsu | Caphuso: for some reason it wont save |
| 00:10.08 | FieldySnuts | i have a system running software raid1 on a 2.6 kernel just using onboard ide lameness, works better than I expected |
| 00:10.26 | caphuso | Katsu: dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:10.28 | eeyore- | hacim: but if you run kernel software, you miss out on the admin utils 3ware card might have |
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