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12:44.28tctI have a Cubieboard1 (A10) and I can't boot the NAND flash. I want to install a distribution on an USB stick which includes a script to install to NAND, then boot that distro from the USB stick and run the script to be able to reboot in NAND flash system
12:44.35tctCan you recommend me such a distribution?
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15:13.38TheLinuxBugtct: hmm I am not sure I quite understand your goal here?  Do you want to just run a say, debian system, from NAND?
15:13.58tctYes, TheLinuxBug
15:14.32TheLinuxBughttp://linux-sunxi.org/Installing_to_NAND
15:14.55TheLinuxBugThat show how for A10, A20 and allwinner based products how to install to NAND
15:15.06TheLinuxBugtells all you need to do it
15:15.14TheLinuxBugif you have confusion while trying just ask
15:15.19TheLinuxBugI should be around throughout the day
15:15.21TheLinuxBugwill try to reply
15:16.44tctIt would be much simpler to just run a nand install script from a distro capable of that
15:23.20TheLinuxBugOkay, so write your own script and document it on that page?
15:24.15TheLinuxBugThere is a install to SATA script on the wiki
15:24.26TheLinuxBugif you search acround it may be able to switch it up for NAND
15:24.39TheLinuxBugI would suggest looking around and googling should not take you long to find what you want
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15:27.26tctI am trying for few days
15:28.59TheLinuxBugHonestly, if you follow the NAND wiki I gave you you should be able to write a script in about 15-20 minutes
15:29.03TheLinuxBugand get it working
15:29.13TheLinuxBugyour making it take longer by looking for someone to have done all the work for you
15:29.52TheLinuxBugthere is reason those scipts are in some ways a bad idea, if you just blindly run scripts you never know whats in them... easiest way to insert nasty things inadvertently into systems
15:30.01TheLinuxBugso its betetr you learn to make your own scripts to avoid such
15:30.25tctI agree I don't trust binary parts in scripts
15:31.03tctOne more question
15:31.11tctHow can I boot from USB stick?
15:31.24tctI broke my SD card
15:33.21TheLinuxBugu-boot has to be able to read from sdcard or NAND on A10 to get kernel
15:33.26TheLinuxBugyou can run rootfs on the memory stick
15:33.45TheLinuxBugthen you need to update the
15:34.59tcthttp://paste.debian.net/334318/
15:35.11TheLinuxBugso
15:35.30tctHow can I tell u-boot to boot from USB stick
15:36.32TheLinuxBughttp://linux-sunxi.org/Boot_Process#USB
15:36.38TheLinuxBughttp://linux-sunxi.org/FEL/USBBoot
15:36.47TheLinuxBugthe basic way to do this
15:36.58TheLinuxBugoverall is to copy the root system to the device you want to run it from
15:37.08TheLinuxBugthen modify the u-boot to specify where the rootfs is
15:37.11TheLinuxBugin the uEnv.txt
15:37.28TheLinuxBugwhich is located for example on mmcblk0p1 on SDcard dists
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15:37.36TheLinuxBugand is on the first partition of the NAND
15:37.43TheLinuxBugso if you cant to load from USB
15:37.44tctI don't have a SD card
15:37.51tctor functional NAND
15:38.02tctI just have a USB stick now
15:38.06TheLinuxBugyou would copy rootfs to USB then change the rootfs= in uEnv.txt to be the USB stick
15:38.08tctwith the rootfs in it
15:38.08TheLinuxBugthen boot that way
15:38.16TheLinuxBugbut if you read those resources above  and follow them
15:38.28TheLinuxBuginstead of being lazy, you will see how its done, the wiki gives all details
15:39.02TheLinuxBugThere is no 'easy way'
15:39.07TheLinuxBugyou will have to do work
15:39.14TheLinuxBugand learn in the process
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15:43.27tctI have uEnv.txt on the first partition on USB stick
15:43.46tctwhich points to second partition on USB stick, with the rootfs
15:44.07tctHowever, I seem not able to boot on USB stick using FEL button
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16:08.56TheLinuxBugno you would boot from NAND uBoot partition and then have it load rootfs off the USB
16:09.10TheLinuxBugif your gonna try to boot whole thing you have to install uboot on the usb stick
16:09.19TheLinuxBuggo read as I said
16:09.23TheLinuxBugyou keep trying to take shortcuts
16:09.29TheLinuxBugyou won't be sucessful that way
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16:12.07tctTheLinuxBug: I tried setenv root /dev/mmcblk0p2; saveenv; boot
16:12.11tctDidn't work
16:12.41tctThat's the second partition on the USB stick having the rootfs
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17:58.53GeneralStupidHi does anyone have an allwinner with rt2x00usb.ko for android?
18:01.22GeneralStupidOr an android built with more USB modules...
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18:18.50TheLinuxBugf or what device/platform?
18:18.56GeneralStupidallwinner H3
18:18.58GeneralStupidAndroid
18:19.07TheLinuxBugno, good luck on that
18:19.15GeneralStupidI think A20/A10 should also work ?
18:19.15TheLinuxBugthere isn't mainline support on that yet
18:19.24TheLinuxBugso you will need to rebuild from the sources provided by bendor
18:19.36TheLinuxBugvendor
18:19.45GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: i have an already working android.... everything is done by allwinner (or sunxi?)
18:20.08GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: i just miss the WLAN USB drivers
18:20.39TheLinuxBugyeah you will need to get the kernel source for the kernel used in that android install and compile a module
18:20.41GeneralStupid"Just" :-D It's useless without Network
18:21.04TheLinuxBugI did it for my A10 android rlses
18:21.05TheLinuxBughttp://linux-sunxi.org/Boot_Android_from_SdCard
18:21.07GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: i cannot use a different, like a cubieboard kernel?
18:22.27GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: that page, its yours?
18:23.14TheLinuxBugno I produced the images at the top and host them though
18:23.25TheLinuxBugI did the work for the A10 so there was SD card bootable android
18:24.04TheLinuxBugbut all you need to do is setup a cross compile enviroment with the kernel source provided by orangepi
18:24.10TheLinuxBugand then compile the wireless modules you need
18:24.16buZzor compile it on the board itself ;)
18:24.17TheLinuxBugthen copy the .ko over to your little server
18:24.21TheLinuxBugor that
18:24.26TheLinuxBuglol
18:24.32buZz^_^
18:24.33TheLinuxBugwhatever works for you
18:24.38buZzwaves at GeneralStupid
18:25.00GeneralStupidBut iam not experienced in building android kernel
18:25.04GeneralStupidbuZz: hi ;)
18:25.07buZz:)
18:25.15buZzbuilding android kernel is same as linux kernel
18:25.27TheLinuxBugYou know what the best part about these small computers are?
18:25.36buZzhmm
18:25.45TheLinuxBugthere is a lot of information out there on how to do things :) So you should be able to find a resource that teaches you to easily
18:25.46buZzthey get through airport security?
18:25.47GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: throwing them away is not that hard?
18:25.48buZzah
18:25.52buZzlol
18:26.08buZzTheLinuxBug: i like that its easy to find 3d printable cases for them :)
18:26.15TheLinuxBugI guess I could just say RTFM but that seems less genuine :p
18:26.29TheLinuxBugheheh yeah
18:26.30TheLinuxBugthat too
18:27.12GeneralStupidthe problem with android related stuff is there are too many "script kiddies" and their questions which hide the interesting stuff
18:27.17TheLinuxBugGeneralStupid: http://linux-sunxi.org has a ton of information
18:27.26TheLinuxBugand past that google and you should be able to find quick resources
18:27.37buZzyeah #android isnt a useful channel
18:28.22GeneralStupidthere was one guy who told me how to push and pull the module with adb ...
18:28.33GeneralStupidHe didnt understand that my problem is to get these modules...
18:29.37TheLinuxBugAll you need to do is find the android klernel in use on your system
18:29.43TheLinuxBuggo download the android kernel source
18:29.56TheLinuxBugand do makconfig and set the wlan modules you want as M
18:29.57GeneralStupidLinux version 3.4.39 (gt@gt-server) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-2012.02-20120222 - Linaro GCC 2012.02) )
18:29.59TheLinuxBugthen make modules
18:30.06TheLinuxBuggo grab the .ko
18:30.10GeneralStupidits like the normal linux kernel? Then i know...
18:30.24GeneralStupidBut whats the difference at all, why cant i use standard linux modukles
18:30.26TheLinuxBugcopy to your machine in lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/drivers/usb
18:30.41TheLinuxBugBecause it is arm?
18:31.47GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: i have two OrangePi - Allwinner H3 boards
18:31.53GeneralStupidits armhf - debian
18:32.05TheLinuxBugok?
18:32.27TheLinuxBugas long as its built on the device you should be able to copy it over as long as kernel version is the same?
18:32.35TheLinuxBugotherwise you need to compiled for that kernel version
18:32.39GeneralStupidand it didnt worked... insmod: init_module 'rt2x00usb.ko' failed (Exec format error)
18:32.46TheLinuxBugexactly
18:32.52TheLinuxBugso you will need to get android kernel
18:32.57TheLinuxBugmatching version
18:33.00GeneralStupidthe kernel version is "equal" ok not exactly
18:33.01TheLinuxBugand compile the module for it
18:33.36GeneralStupidok where do i get an 3.4.39 android kernel?!
18:33.54TheLinuxBugGoogle is your friend
18:35.07GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: what do you think about https://github.com/libv/linux-sunxi/tree/a23sdk_frankenkernel
18:35.57buZzh3 isnt a23
18:37.22GeneralStupida20 is sun7i like h3 is... i thought it could work?
18:38.20buZza23 isnt a20 ;)
18:40.16TheLinuxBughttp://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html
18:40.23GeneralStupidit is really great that the h3 is so cheap
18:40.28TheLinuxBugandroid sdk source code
18:40.28GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: try to download it :-D
18:40.45GeneralStupidTheLinuxBug: for me that site is not working
18:41.07TheLinuxBughmm
18:41.15TheLinuxBugwhich one you have
18:41.17TheLinuxBug2?
18:41.58GeneralStupidorangepic pc
18:42.04GeneralStupidorangepi pc
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18:42.52TheLinuxBugawesome
18:42.57TheLinuxBugyeah they are broke
18:43.30GeneralStupidhttps://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1hyW7T0dqn6fndnZTRhRm5BaW4zVDVyTGlGMWJES3Z1eXVDQzI5R1lnV21oRHFsWnVwSEU&usp=sharing#list
18:43.46GeneralStupidthis one works, but there is no sdk and the images are garbage
18:45.55TheLinuxBuglol
18:45.58TheLinuxBugOrangPi is awesome
18:46.05TheLinuxBughalf their crap is taken down for DMCA
18:46.08TheLinuxBugcause they just copied it
18:46.14TheLinuxBugand the other half is passworded
18:46.15TheLinuxBugahaha
18:46.28TheLinuxBugso yeah the github for orangpi linux kernel is non existant
18:47.24TheLinuxBugthis may be useful for you thought later http://www.orangepi.org/orangepibbsen/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=342
18:47.29GeneralStupidits a nice board and i know that stuff, i'am computer scientist developing ASIPs :) But this makes me depressive.
18:48.13GeneralStupidBecause, you know it would easily work if you HAD access to their sources... It was no Problem to build the linux kernel and bring it to work... But
18:48.20TheLinuxBugwell orangePi kinda is cheap for a reason
18:48.29TheLinuxBugtheir community support is abysmal
18:48.37GeneralStupid"you get what you pay for"
18:48.37TheLinuxBugthey just expect linux-sunxi to do the work for them
18:50.07GeneralStupidi wont use android for that... But its the easiest way to get the hardware acclerated video stuff...
18:50.37GeneralStupidiam also not using orangepi android - i use an image for the beelink X2 ( http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/allwinner-tv-players/531041-rom-sc_v1-1-custom-rom-beelink-x2 )
18:50.44GeneralStupidwhich works best - except usb wifi :)
18:51.27TheLinuxBugI se
18:51.33GeneralStupidwhy did these guys not use github for their sources
18:51.50TheLinuxBugthey did they just copied a bunch of their work from bananapi and other makers
18:51.54TheLinuxBugso a lot of its been torn apart
18:52.12TheLinuxBughttps://github.com/orangepi-xunlong?tab=repositories
18:52.17GeneralStupidbut bananapi's support is also not that good
18:53.15TheLinuxBugYeah but Lewmakre had some people in the beginning that at least spent time deving stuff for the board
18:53.18TheLinuxBugthats the difference
18:53.35TheLinuxBugOrangpi just made a board and started selling it
18:53.57TheLinuxBugGeneralStupid: if I weren't busy working I would look more but don't have time atm
18:54.20GeneralStupidMe too - thats why i switched to android, because everything works :)
18:54.49GeneralStupidexcept for...
18:55.24TheLinuxBugIf you look around I am telling you you can find the source you need and build your kernel module
18:55.30TheLinuxBugI just don't have the time to help you look for it
18:56.31GeneralStupidi just found an android SDK from a draco TV Box...
18:58.55GeneralStupidit looks like that is the source for all that android images
19:01.40GeneralStupiddead links, dead repositories
19:17.48GeneralStupidoh i have found one on baidu
19:37.00GeneralStupidok i have a question, how do i configure / compile an android kernel?!
19:37.25GeneralStupidmenuconfig das not work
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21:17.02tctTheLinuxBug: I succeeded by doing this: http://paste.debian.net/334451/
21:17.07tctThanks for helping
21:49.03TheLinuxBug;)
21:49.27TheLinuxBugI knew you could do it
21:52.50tctI stil used a script
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