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| 11:03.33 | Alina-malina | hey all, will cubietrack handle 6K visitors per day if i run a webserver on it? (serving ecommerce website) |
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| 11:36.18 | utente | Alina-malina, the qeustion is incomplete. Is 6000 along the day (6000/86400=) une every 14 seconds? is it 6000 but all during 20 minutes? the web server has a database or provide static html pages? etc etc |
| 11:36.56 | Alina-malina | utente, yes it is php/mysql server, 6000 per day, not per second so it will be like 6000/12 |
| 11:37.46 | utente | set up a web servr on cubietruk , then do stress test. there are tools to do that. |
| 11:38.12 | utente | choose the right webserver. |
| 11:38.29 | Alina-malina | the problem is i dont buy it yet, so i am not sure if i need it or not for webserver, if it wont work, it is useless for me to buy it |
| 11:39.27 | utente | start with the hjardware you have: if your 4 core/4Gram PC/laptop is not able to do, more unable will be cubietruck. |
| 11:41.18 | Night-Shade | also depends what the limit is, is it CPU / RAM / Storage performance / Network performance? |
| 11:50.17 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, yeah, you have to look at what area of performance will be the bottleneck. My experience with non-ARM server is that using Nginx/MySQL one can serve pretty many requests |
| 11:50.23 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina ^ |
| 11:50.38 | Alina-malina | super |
| 11:50.47 | Alina-malina | many requests is how many? |
| 11:51.00 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, IMO, it all depends on the size of the DB, if it fits in the RAM, you should be fine |
| 11:51.32 | Alina-malina | hmmm alright:) well i want to order one, there is one on aliexpress, but i am not sure if i should order from there or not |
| 11:51.45 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, what do you mean? What kind of PHP handler do you plan to use? |
| 11:52.00 | Alina-malina | php-fpm? |
| 11:52.06 | Alina-malina | regular php package |
| 11:52.10 | Night-Shade | where are you based? I got mine in the UK fro r0ck.me |
| 11:52.17 | Alina-malina | Armenia |
| 11:52.51 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, keep in mind that php-fpm enough RAM to handle many requests |
| 11:53.12 | Night-Shade | and also that modern PHP has bytecode caching |
| 11:53.18 | Alina-malina | hmmm |
| 11:54.21 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, Night-Shade, correct |
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| 11:54.56 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, don't wanna wait for A80 board? |
| 11:55.33 | fossxplorer | I don't own an A20 based board, but my impression is that CPU is kinda inferior |
| 11:55.47 | Night-Shade | I have a cubietruck here and the A20 is ok |
| 11:55.58 | Night-Shade | but the thing with the A20 is that everything works now |
| 11:56.05 | fossxplorer | I think RK3188/3288 is better for high traffic web server |
| 11:56.19 | Night-Shade | the A80 will have a period of not working as all the kernel bits get sorted out |
| 11:56.38 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, ah ok. Hmm, you are into a good point |
| 11:56.56 | fossxplorer | I've just ordered a pcDuino3 Nano |
| 11:57.04 | Night-Shade | you can install debian pretty much out the box on the cubietruck now |
| 11:57.17 | Night-Shade | when I first installed it was "interesting" |
| 11:57.18 | fossxplorer | To be used solely as a 24/7 linux box at home to save electricity |
| 11:57.46 | fossxplorer | I understand. Now it's works full with Debian? |
| 11:57.52 | fossxplorer | s/full/fully/ |
| 11:58.06 | fossxplorer | oh cool bot :) |
| 11:59.14 | Night-Shade | yes it does |
| 11:59.22 | Night-Shade | I've not swapped to the debian kernel yet |
| 11:59.48 | Night-Shade | I still self build the latest kernel but I understand that the debian kernel / uboot support tools all work |
| 12:01.16 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, ok, nice. I'll see if i can get Fedora into my pcDuino3 |
| 12:01.22 | fossxplorer | i know Ubuntu is supported |
| 12:01.31 | Night-Shade | the fedora arm people are pretty active |
| 12:01.55 | Night-Shade | rich jones made the kvm support work on the cubietruck |
| 12:02.07 | Night-Shade | so I can run hardware accelerated VMs on my cubie |
| 12:06.45 | utente | Night-Shade, cubie is not a "monster of power". What is the fantage to run on it a VM? |
| 12:07.00 | Night-Shade | because I can :) |
| 12:07.00 | utente | s/fantage/vantage/ |
| 12:07.17 | Night-Shade | it's interesting to play with VMs on ARM |
| 12:07.35 | utente | under test&research viewpoint i agree. |
| 12:07.40 | Night-Shade | indeed |
| 12:07.50 | fossxplorer | I agree that it's fascinating, but for me the major drawback in the little amount of RAM |
| 12:07.53 | Night-Shade | and the performance isn't terrible |
| 12:08.05 | fossxplorer | How many VMS do you have inside? |
| 12:08.13 | Night-Shade | all arm stuff suffers from a terrible lack of ram |
| 12:08.18 | Night-Shade | only tried 2 at once |
| 12:08.24 | Night-Shade | 1 for each core |
| 12:08.26 | fossxplorer | Cool. What about LXC? |
| 12:08.49 | Night-Shade | not played with the, also need to try out docker but not had time |
| 12:08.50 | fossxplorer | It's more light weight, just playing with it on my new CentOS 7 box |
| 12:09.04 | fossxplorer | yeah, that's quite interesting |
| 12:10.03 | Night-Shade | not played much with docker yet, very much a VM person :) |
| 12:10.34 | Night-Shade | not keen on the security around docker / LXC thou selinux in RHEL/CentOS 7 helps a lot |
| 12:10.36 | fossxplorer | Same here, i've been using KVM in production for 2 years now, it's fantastic! Now also testing oVirt :) |
| 12:10.54 | Night-Shade | yeah I look after production KVM stuff |
| 12:11.02 | Night-Shade | and prod vmware too |
| 12:11.21 | Night-Shade | I avoid hyperv as much as I can |
| 12:12.24 | fossxplorer | Cool. although i must agree the enterprises use Hyper-V quite a lot |
| 12:12.58 | fossxplorer | IMO, they came late into the game, but because MS owns a huge market, they push stuff into the customers |
| 12:13.09 | Night-Shade | it depends, in education it's very popular cos it's free |
| 12:13.18 | Night-Shade | but VMware's tools are so much better |
| 12:13.30 | fossxplorer | That's what i read |
| 12:13.40 | fossxplorer | ppl pay huge amount of $$ to VMWare |
| 12:13.42 | Night-Shade | and hyperV once you buy the management stuff is actually quite expensive |
| 12:14.15 | fossxplorer | I see. What about VMWare that's so good? The vSphere? |
| 12:14.24 | Night-Shade | the first step with vmware (3 host essentials plus) is very cheap |
| 12:14.37 | Night-Shade | the next steps get expensive |
| 12:14.49 | fossxplorer | i see |
| 12:14.56 | Night-Shade | vCenter the management appliance is very good, everything just works |
| 12:15.20 | Night-Shade | it talks all the major SAN / NFS protocols, the drives are all there and work |
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| 12:15.33 | Night-Shade | and things like vMotion look like magic to many people |
| 12:15.35 | fossxplorer | Cool |
| 12:16.00 | fossxplorer | as in (live) migration of VMs? |
| 12:16.11 | fossxplorer | KVM supports it too IIRC |
| 12:16.11 | Night-Shade | it's the fact that you can see and manage everything from a single web UI (yes it's in flash and it's annoying) |
| 12:16.28 | Night-Shade | yes it's live migration of VM state / storage |
| 12:16.33 | fossxplorer | Nice. Then you should test oVirt soon :) |
| 12:16.45 | Night-Shade | KVM does support it, more finiky to setup |
| 12:16.59 | fossxplorer | I see. |
| 12:17.05 | Night-Shade | I should, I'm actually an RHCE so I really should play with ovirt |
| 12:17.16 | Night-Shade | it's finding the time and the hardware to test stuff |
| 12:17.21 | fossxplorer | oh are you? Great! |
| 12:17.40 | Night-Shade | also a VMware VCP and NetApp storage certified |
| 12:17.48 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, i'm planning RHCE next year actually. |
| 12:17.59 | Night-Shade | RHCE is great fun (I think) |
| 12:18.05 | Night-Shade | I've had it for over 10 years |
| 12:18.08 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, you are senior i see |
| 12:18.23 | Night-Shade | team leader :p |
| 12:18.30 | fossxplorer | Awesome :) |
| 12:18.43 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, may i add you as friend to catch for later chats? |
| 12:18.56 | Night-Shade | sure, I'm not always on irc thou |
| 12:19.24 | fossxplorer | Ok, np. Quite surprised to see a guy like you on cubie |
| 12:19.32 | fossxplorer | That's really great :) |
| 12:19.44 | Night-Shade | tinkering with ARM stuff is a hobby |
| 12:19.53 | Night-Shade | I have 5 Raspberry pis |
| 12:20.04 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, yeah, that's an exciting hobby i can imagine |
| 12:20.11 | Night-Shade | and erm an iConnect (kirkwood arm) and a cubietruck |
| 12:20.28 | Night-Shade | and a collection of OpenWRT routers about the palce |
| 12:20.33 | fossxplorer | Omg, that's some. You have all the devices that can run Linux :) |
| 12:20.56 | Night-Shade | I have some of them |
| 12:21.10 | Night-Shade | I keep looking at more and then thinking "no I don't need more toys" |
| 12:22.29 | fossxplorer | haha |
| 12:22.50 | fossxplorer | My first ARM device ever is on the way, as i said pcDuino3 Nano |
| 12:23.24 | Night-Shade | the pi is a good starting point, very thin on power but very well supported |
| 12:23.38 | Night-Shade | and the latest gen finally has a working usb / power system |
| 12:23.43 | fossxplorer | yeah, but it's so low powered :( |
| 12:24.01 | Night-Shade | yes it is but it can do useful things |
| 12:24.11 | Night-Shade | runs my parents USB printer for example |
| 12:24.32 | fossxplorer | over the network? |
| 12:24.35 | Night-Shade | aye |
| 12:24.42 | Night-Shade | over wifi infact |
| 12:24.44 | fossxplorer | That's a great usecase |
| 12:24.50 | fossxplorer | Awesome :) |
| 12:24.55 | Night-Shade | yeah I use them for VPN endpoints |
| 12:25.04 | Night-Shade | they are very handy for usb serial ports |
| 12:25.28 | Night-Shade | when you don't want to stand in someone's freezing server room to serial port a netapp or switch |
| 12:25.55 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, usb serial port? |
| 12:26.04 | Night-Shade | I've used them before for total out of band acces, with a 3g dongle and a pair of serial ports on them |
| 12:26.16 | Night-Shade | usb -> serial for console access to devices |
| 12:26.35 | fossxplorer | ah like IPMI stuff? |
| 12:27.14 | Night-Shade | yeah but with a real cable |
| 12:27.32 | Night-Shade | login to the pi and run screen /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 12:28.17 | fossxplorer | Hmm, and the USB port of Pi is connected to the serial mgmt port of the serveR? |
| 12:28.54 | fossxplorer | with USB to serial adapter i assume |
| 12:29.26 | fossxplorer | Night-Shade, you should join #centos and #rhel :) |
| 12:29.28 | Night-Shade | correct |
| 12:29.42 | fossxplorer | Awesome, something i didn't think about at all |
| 12:29.51 | Night-Shade | it's very handy |
| 12:29.59 | fossxplorer | Indeed! |
| 12:30.09 | fossxplorer | But 3G doesn't give you static IP |
| 12:30.20 | Night-Shade | that's what openvpn is for :) |
| 12:30.31 | fossxplorer | ah, f*** |
| 12:30.43 | Night-Shade | I have a vpn server on a static ip |
| 12:30.54 | Night-Shade | and all my toys connect in |
| 12:31.04 | fossxplorer | awesom |
| 12:31.05 | fossxplorer | e |
| 12:31.22 | Night-Shade | I have a sealed case for a pi so I can leave it behind without it being fiddled with |
| 12:31.23 | fossxplorer | so you get the internal VPN ip of the Pi to connect to |
| 12:31.46 | Night-Shade | gives me remote access to a customer from the hotel if I am working with them for a few days |
| 12:31.50 | Night-Shade | indeed |
| 12:32.21 | Night-Shade | and with a serial port you can do remote work that breaks things wthout worrying about things |
| 12:32.38 | Night-Shade | so midnight swap overs of routing tables |
| 12:32.42 | Night-Shade | and things like that |
| 12:32.49 | fossxplorer | But how do you connect the 3G device to the mobile network? Always on ? |
| 12:32.55 | Night-Shade | always on |
| 12:33.19 | Night-Shade | I've got management scripts that check for google pings and if it can't ping for 5 mins reboots the modem |
| 12:33.20 | fossxplorer | yeah, you don't need to be afraid about losing SSH access :) |
| 12:33.36 | fossxplorer | Awesome. |
| 12:33.41 | Night-Shade | I can float vSphere over it too with some port forwards |
| 12:33.45 | fossxplorer | You are kinda genius i see |
| 12:33.56 | Night-Shade | I like to be prepared |
| 12:34.35 | Night-Shade | http://blog.night-shade.org.uk/ my blog has a picture of my travel kit |
| 12:34.37 | fossxplorer | You mean access vSphere via Pi? |
| 12:34.42 | Night-Shade | aye |
| 12:34.54 | Night-Shade | just forward the correct ports with xinetd |
| 12:34.57 | fossxplorer | You are a real geek |
| 12:35.00 | fossxplorer | awesome |
| 12:35.34 | fossxplorer | Oh, i've seen that TP Link on dx.com and considered it many time |
| 12:35.35 | fossxplorer | s |
| 12:35.46 | fossxplorer | just couldn't see the use case yet though |
| 12:35.47 | Night-Shade | the one frmo the guy in china is amazing |
| 12:35.50 | fossxplorer | But you did! |
| 12:36.02 | fossxplorer | Aliexpress? |
| 12:36.07 | Night-Shade | 30 quit and you get 64mb of ram 16mb of storage and a serial port |
| 12:36.13 | Night-Shade | I get them from ebay |
| 12:36.24 | Night-Shade | slboat is the guy that mods them |
| 12:36.26 | fossxplorer | inside that TP Link? |
| 12:36.29 | Night-Shade | he's very good |
| 12:36.33 | Night-Shade | aye |
| 12:36.35 | fossxplorer | wow |
| 12:36.42 | fossxplorer | give me the link on ebay please? |
| 12:37.08 | Night-Shade | http://stores.ebay.com/slboat/ |
| 12:37.35 | fossxplorer | So you can connect your laptop to the Pi via WIFI? |
| 12:37.49 | fossxplorer | It then routes through the traffic over 3G right? |
| 12:37.55 | Night-Shade | yes |
| 12:38.01 | Night-Shade | and over my vpn |
| 12:38.09 | Night-Shade | so the 3g people don't see it :) |
| 12:38.13 | fossxplorer | this is some great stuff |
| 12:38.18 | fossxplorer | I MUST fix it too |
| 12:38.24 | fossxplorer | awesome |
| 12:38.30 | fossxplorer | I'm blank on OpenVPN stuff |
| 12:38.35 | fossxplorer | i need to get started |
| 12:38.50 | Night-Shade | openvpn is very handy |
| 12:39.11 | fossxplorer | Sounds like it is |
| 12:39.11 | Night-Shade | any how I need to go and buy some food, I've not managed to find a way to get that over OpenVPN yet |
| 12:39.23 | fossxplorer | haha, thx for the chat |
| 12:39.32 | fossxplorer | catch you later! |
| 12:43.26 | Alina-malina | a80? |
| 12:43.28 | Alina-malina | what is that? |
| 12:44.39 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, the new Allwinner A80 SoC, |
| 12:45.15 | Alina-malina | hmmm |
| 12:45.22 | Alina-malina | when it is going to be available? |
| 12:45.32 | fossxplorer | Soon, but no release date yet |
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| 13:04.14 | fossxplorer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpPAmtm0Sok Alina-malina |
| 13:05.32 | Alina-malina | heh they add the microphone jack back lulz |
| 13:05.47 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, but mainly missing SATA :( |
| 13:06.00 | Alina-malina | wtf |
| 13:06.04 | Alina-malina | no sata? |
| 13:06.06 | Alina-malina | O_O |
| 13:06.31 | fossxplorer | Doesn't look like :(, but at least if USB3 is there, it might work out |
| 13:06.39 | fossxplorer | still SATA is a major drawback IMO |
| 13:06.47 | Alina-malina | sata is a musthave |
| 13:06.48 | Alina-malina | >.< |
| 13:06.52 | fossxplorer | agree |
| 13:09.59 | Alina-malina | the china girl is so ugly omg, i cant watch this.... |
| 13:10.43 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, hey come on |
| 13:24.19 | utente | alina, stay on cubieboard1/2 if you need sata. |
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| 13:46.24 | Alina-malina | hmmm ok |
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| 13:47.49 | fossxplorer | Alina-malina, http://store.linksprite.com/pcduino3-nano/ cheaper but with some less features vs cubies |
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| 17:28.04 | mir_ | I need to change somthing on android for cubieboard |
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