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| 06:49.30 | shineworld_44 | > <IanWizard-Cloud> This is likely covered somewhere, but I haven't seen it. What is script.bin actually for? |
| 06:50.51 | shineworld_44 | IanWizard-Cloud, script.bin is a simple binary configuration file used by kernel to get configuration about internal devices of Allwinner CPU like display configurations, memory managment, usb, etc.... |
| 06:51.44 | shineworld_44 | Is the Allwinner way to deploy pre-made android images and permit to tablet makers to do only simple configurations rather than build proprietary versions |
| 06:51.52 | shineworld_44 | At least for what I can guess |
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| 07:21.08 | jelly-home | http://linux-sunxi.org/Script.bin |
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| 07:54.21 | xujinguo | 这里可以问问题吗？ |
| 07:54.51 | xujinguo | 关于cubieboard的 |
| 08:09.04 | jelly-home | yes, but most people here are enthusiasts, and not many can write or read chinese. Write in English if you can. |
| 08:09.15 | jelly-home | .... and they're gone |
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| 08:48.24 | yann2 | hello! I just installed lubuntu on my cubietruck, and the resolution is maxing out at 1280x720, any idea? |
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| 08:49.15 | popolon | jelly-home, as every documentation that was not in english was removed from wiki |
| 08:49.27 | popolon | we should have lot of people asking here in other language :( |
| 08:49.57 | popolon | and so have few chance to have answer |
| 08:50.22 | popolon | some think that everybody should speak english before working with allwinner chips on opensource project |
| 08:50.43 | shineworld_44 | +1 |
| 08:51.38 | popolon | if all the opensource project thought like that, lot of them doesn't exist at all |
| 08:51.54 | jelly | popolon: I think he's right on that one. English is lingua franca of computer engineering, learn to live with that. |
| 08:52.24 | popolon | jelly, understand, but removing documentation in other language don't bring anything more |
| 08:52.41 | rm | wrong documentation is worse than no documentation |
| 08:52.44 | jelly | it only introduced false hope for that language |
| 08:52.46 | rm | translations tend to become outdated and wrong |
| 08:52.49 | popolon | lot of people use computer and program software in other languages |
| 08:53.01 | popolon | nginx for example, was all written in russian from start |
| 08:53.10 | jelly | false hope and unrealistic expectations can drive away more people in the long run |
| 08:53.15 | rm | there is no "russian" programming language |
| 08:53.25 | rm | so I bet it wasn't :) |
| 08:53.32 | popolon | and when it become the second server the most used (in high usage servers), was translated in english |
| 08:54.00 | jelly | will not comment on this particular rant in here any more |
| 08:54.07 | popolon | I don't speak about programming language but about documentation and comments |
| 08:54.16 | popolon | allwinner documentation was in chinese first, isn't it ? |
| 08:54.25 | focus | I just copy and paste to google translate - not bad these days |
| 08:54.38 | rm | but these are all examples of problems someone has when not using English |
| 08:54.45 | popolon | I often don't understand google translation :) |
| 08:55.06 | popolon | rm, what a problem, we all use allwinner chips now, |
| 08:55.13 | popolon | at least here |
| 08:55.30 | popolon | linux documentation project is translated in several languages |
| 08:55.35 | focus | it seems to speak chinese well in audio mode - but sadly I don't understand chinese yet :( |
| 08:55.58 | popolon | think about people that don't speak english |
| 08:56.03 | popolon | same problem than you now |
| 08:56.38 | Bushmills | rm, afaik, the programming language Forth was adopted by former USSR way back, partly because it could be Russianised and Cyrillified easily. That sort of made it a "Russian" language, IMHO |
| 08:56.42 | popolon | if you need to learn chinese before using Allwinner SoCs, you should continue to use expansive and not really state of the art TI chips |
| 08:56.59 | focus | I understand a few words of chinese - so even if I can't read, i can listen - but really the vocabulary is too small for me to comprehend anything at the moment |
| 08:57.27 | focus | it might change if i travel often enough to shenzhen :) |
| 08:57.38 | popolon | I learned first programming language at a time I didn't now anything in english, and that was not a big deal |
| 08:58.14 | popolon | focus, sure, every time I go to china I make a big jump in chinese language |
| 08:58.17 | rm | Bushmills, sure there was a theory that making a programming language close to human language can simplify programming |
| 08:58.30 | Bushmills | Interlingua ! |
| 08:58.41 | popolon | or esperanto ? |
| 08:58.42 | popolon | :) |
| 08:59.16 | popolon | well, english is for computer science, like latin in biology, how many biologists speak latin ? |
| 08:59.21 | focus | I actually program 'thinking in chinese' - one symbol represents one goal |
| 08:59.42 | focus | or one integer represents one state |
| 08:59.42 | Bushmills | rm, reason for suitability of Forth was the relaxed identifier requirements. anything but spaces were legal as or as part of an identifier. |
| 09:00.25 | Bushmills | reason wasn't really for attempted closeness to human language |
| 09:01.18 | Bushmills | though it seems, that grammatical similarities to Japanese exist |
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| 17:09.00 | FourthDr | Fight the FCC that wants to kill net neutrality! Protest by placing the FCC on the "Ferengi Plan"! LOL http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/134371-FCC-Throttled-By-NeoCities-In-Net-Neutrality-Protest |
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| 18:26.13 | iggy | $75 till may 18th: http://liliputing.com/2014/05/pick-snapdragon-600-dev-board-75-may-18th.html |
| 18:30.16 | jelly-home | is there source and drivers for that SoC? |
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| 18:30.46 | jelly-home | (and source _for_ drivers? :-) |
| 18:33.27 | iggy | Unknown, it's basically the same soc that powers the One (m7), and the Galaxy S4... |
| 18:33.35 | iggy | so... I'm guessing no |
| 18:35.23 | iggy | at the very least, I've heard the bt on the One is a pita to work with (which usually equates to closed drivers and firmware blobs) |
| 18:36.39 | jelly-home | not too keen on signing NDAs |
| 18:40.25 | rm | http://www.pragmatux.net/docs/quick-start-ifc6410.html |
| 18:40.30 | rm | looks like possible to run debian |
| 18:40.36 | rm | but geez, does it not boot from SD? |
| 18:40.47 | rm | only via fiddling with eMMC flashing? |
| 18:42.30 | rm | http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php looks like a better bet |
| 18:42.59 | rm | well SATA and gigabit here |
| 18:43.13 | rm | but Mali on the ODROID :) |
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| 18:44.29 | iggy | I guess anything with gigE and sata generally jumps out at me (and I tend to ignore everythign else) |
| 18:46.09 | rm | personally if I'm going to make a file server, it will need to have 5-6 drives |
| 18:46.51 | rm | and at scale of size/noise/cooling a Mini-ITX x86 motherboard isn't going to add much |
| 18:46.57 | rm | at that scale * |
| 18:47.00 | iggy | it's for a project I've been working on... a file non-server |
| 18:48.30 | iggy | yeah, so far, I keep coming back to something more like ECS NM70-TI ($52 on newegg) |
| 18:49.29 | iggy | but my eventual goal is something smaller than mini-itx |
| 18:50.33 | rm | ew, fan |
| 18:50.48 | iggy | _like_ |
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| 18:51.07 | IanWizard-Cloud | iggy: damn you. I don't need anything else to spend my money on. and yet... i find myself needing to own one (qcom board). |
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| 18:52.39 | iggy | I just keep looking at that ECS board because it has barrel in (vs atx power header) |
| 18:55.40 | rm | FedEx International Economy $96.82 |
| 18:55.49 | rm | the only shipping method for that board :) |
| 18:58.27 | iggy | I got fedex express saver for 22.83 |
| 18:58.54 | iggy | so yeah, nvm, that puts it more expensive than other boards :/ |
| 18:59.26 | iggy | the board isn't that big... how can it cost that much? |
| 19:01.48 | jelly-home | rm: if they ship from US, a freight forwarder (a postal package proxy!) like shipito.com might help |
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| 19:02.01 | rm | yeah that could work |
| 19:02.12 | rm | but I don't want it that much |
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