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| 00:34.41 | potato__ | VargaD, which drive did you use ? I've checked a thoshiba, a WD and a seagate 2.5" drive and they're all between 0.55 and 1 A, don't know if it require more power to "turn on" the drive |
| 00:35.52 | VargaD | but as you said the USB 2.0 has 0.5 amp limit |
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| 00:43.30 | potato__ | yeah, technically it's 0.5 A but I saw some USB charger that could supply more than 0.5 A (but nowhere near 2.5A). If the cubietruck works with "standard" 0.5 A usb without a hdd, theoritically I could hook up a 1 A hdd and power both with a 1.5 A usb charger |
| 00:44.05 | potato__ | in theory it seems feasible, will have to try it out |
| 00:44.37 | VargaD | I think you need some regulated power supply as the voltage might decrease when you turn the whole thing on |
| 00:47.44 | VargaD | I wasn't lucky and my usb charger wasn't good engouh |
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| 00:53.14 | potato__ | I'm trying to find one on amazon... at first sight none are marked as "regulated" (or maybe it's just not in the description) |
| 00:53.48 | potato__ | how do you know if it's regulated or not without buying it ? |
| 00:57.36 | VargaD | a moment, I found one but the description is in Hungarian |
| 01:00.32 | potato__ | nice! do you have the make/model # ? |
| 01:03.42 | VargaD | this one states the the output is stableized: http://www.tradus.com/erd-mobile-charger-usb-lp-27tc-2-amp-output-fast-charging-erustc11/p/MOAMUZ91D3H2XAWS |
| 01:05.34 | potato__ | thanks! |
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| 01:08.19 | VargaD | but it is easier to find a regulated 5V power supply |
| 01:09.54 | potato__ | you mean regulated power supply are more common ? |
| 01:12.59 | VargaD | usb chargers usually don't have to be regulated you only want to charge some battery |
| 01:15.04 | VargaD | it is easy to buy some high quality 5V power supply |
| 01:15.32 | potato__ | so if I understand correctly, only the power supply powering the usb battery (something like this: http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-12000mAh-Portable-Smartphone-Bluetooth/dp/B008YRG5JQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1388279214&sr=8-2) need to be regulated ? |
| 01:20.03 | VargaD | soory I don't understand, this seems to be some battery that charges phone |
| 01:22.05 | potato__ | it is, I'm planning to power the cubietruck with it ie: power supply -> usb battery -> cubietruck |
| 01:22.30 | VargaD | I plan to buy a cubieboard hdd addon and a regulated 12V power supply, I think that sould work well for 3.5" hdd |
| 01:24.13 | VargaD | I have read on forums that many people have problem with usb chargers and 2"5 hdd, I also tried once with a cheap usb charger and it didn't work even through the wattage was OK in theory |
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| 01:25.47 | buZz | i bought some 4A 5V supply from ebay for ~8 euros |
| 01:25.53 | buZz | more than enough umf |
| 01:27.29 | VargaD | is that a usb charger? |
| 01:27.46 | buZz | no |
| 01:27.48 | buZz | LED psu |
| 01:29.48 | buZz | something like this; |
| 01:29.49 | buZz | http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Converter-for-LED-Light-Lamp-AC-100-120V-200-220V-5V-4A-20W-Switch-Power-Supply-/251331279202?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8482f962&_uhb=1 |
| 01:33.12 | potato__ | VargaD, sometimes usb charger advertise the total amperage of all the port combined, so maybe it didn't work because the port the cubietruck was connected supplied less than required, eg: 2 port, 0.5 A per port advertised as 1A usb charger |
| 01:34.04 | VargaD | that charger has only one port |
| 01:38.01 | potato__ | ok, well then maybe I'm better off using a normal battery connected to the board instead of a usb one |
| 01:39.37 | VargaD | do you want to run cubieboard on a battery with hdd? |
| 01:42.05 | potato__ | yes, I've read somewhere it was supported and how to do it. Unfortunately, I can't find the link... |
| 01:45.18 | VargaD | It is getting quite late here, you should ask someone more qualifyed than me, the charger you linked might be good enough, I can't tell for sure... |
| 01:45.27 | VargaD | Good night |
| 01:46.10 | potato__ | ok, thanks, good night! |
| 01:46.29 | potato__ | btw if you plan to use a 3.5" hdd, maybe this could be useful : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c_utSSl2ak |
| 01:47.59 | VargaD | thanks, it is a bit tricky, with cubieboard I it is more straightforward as it doesn't have any support and you have to connect it correctly :) |
| 01:49.08 | potato__ | ah I see, well good luck to you! |
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| 10:25.51 | sillybilly | morning |
| 10:26.52 | sillybilly | Can anyone tell me how do i prep my sata drive for it to be the root fs |
| 10:26.59 | sillybilly | http://www.bango29.com/cubieboard-part-3-sata-install-with-cubian/ |
| 10:27.31 | sillybilly | i tried this |
| 10:27.31 | sillybilly | but i end up in a bootloop where it says its trying to kill cpu1 |
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| 11:25.42 | emx | does CB2 have an axp power driver? |
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| 11:48.34 | utente | emx, what is axp? |
| 11:50.34 | mnemoc | the PMU |
| 11:50.58 | mnemoc | power management companion chip |
| 12:19.04 | emx | the answer is: yes. and you have to compile it into the kernel, otherwise kernel compile will fail. |
| 12:20.57 | mnemoc | no clue what kernel tree are you using, but pm on sunxi requires interaction with the axp |
| 12:21.35 | mnemoc | but you can disable it in the kernel sources AND script.bin to be able to live without |
| 12:22.02 | emx | mnemoc, i use 3.4.67 |
| 12:22.52 | mnemoc | the usual cause of troubles if you disable the AXP driver there is because the script.bin references AXP GPIOs |
| 12:23.14 | mnemoc | and that leads to panics |
| 12:23.31 | emx | mnemoc, i wont mess with that. compiling axp into the kernel is just sufficient for my skills :P |
| 12:26.03 | mnemoc | linux-sunxi's sunxi-3.4's sun7i_defconfig should have the AXP enabled by default |
| 12:26.26 | mnemoc | if not, please submit a patch (to the mailing list) enabling it |
| 12:27.43 | emx | i'm sure it is. i removed lots of drivers which 1) i wont use and 2) increase build time unnecessarily. |
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| 13:47.32 | emx | where is mkimage contained in? isn't it u-boot-sunxi? |
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| 17:43.21 | rneese | mornign |
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| 17:47.11 | rneese | hey wolfy |
| 17:47.29 | rneese | well I managed to generate a jessie img but its 1.7 gig |
| 17:47.41 | rneese | I have to get a smaller install on it |
| 17:47.45 | wolfy | why ? |
| 17:48.15 | rneese | I dont need all the gcc and headers and crud that the builder installs |
| 17:48.57 | rneese | I am going to reflash the wheezy img and update it to jessie Iguess |
| 17:49.25 | rneese | I am making a .img file of the jessie |
| 17:49.36 | wolfy | or you could apt-get remove what you do not need |
| 17:49.36 | rneese | it will be good for a build system I guess |
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| 17:50.21 | rneese | I am going to work on the builder syatem and rm from it alot to |
| 17:50.49 | rneese | but the kernel/firmware/headers his install /builder script does is 600 megs alone |
| 17:50.56 | rneese | and there is no video out on it |
| 17:52.05 | wolfy | apt-get remove && apt-get autoremove |
| 17:52.07 | rneese | alot to learn but you all act like everyone shoud know what there doing when peope are learning |
| 17:52.24 | rneese | yes I know that but knowing everything to rm is the big thing |
| 17:52.33 | rneese | having to diff the 2 images |
| 17:52.41 | rneese | and then make a rm script |
| 17:52.50 | rneese | thats time consuming |
| 17:52.51 | wolfy | or you could start from scratch and install a minimal system |
| 17:53.20 | rneese | I have tried and it failed |
| 17:54.14 | rneese | http://co-lo.night-shade.org.uk/~tim/cubie.notes |
| 17:54.19 | rneese | followed this |
| 17:54.28 | wolfy | i am not yet familiar enough with debian but in centos I've created a kickstart which installs a super minimal system. and we also created a minimal.iso which is a but larger because it mimics RH's idea of a minimal system |
| 17:54.30 | rneese | going to retry |
| 17:54.40 | wolfy | *a bit larger |
| 17:54.58 | wolfy | i am 100% debian has similar tools |
| 17:55.02 | wolfy | damn fingers |
| 17:55.08 | wolfy | i am 100% sure that debian has similar tools |
| 17:55.38 | mnemoc | debian doesn't provide rootfs tarballs afaik |
| 17:57.08 | rneese | you can pull them |
| 17:57.17 | rneese | and I have a root tarball |
| 17:57.50 | rneese | I know how to make a root tarball |
| 17:57.59 | rneese | I have a script that does it |
| 17:58.38 | mnemoc | "minimal" would be the basic outcome of debootstrap |
| 17:59.53 | rneese | but then having the right kernel and modules |
| 18:00.00 | rneese | and other needed parts |
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| 18:00.57 | wolfy | rneese: the kernel is separate anyway |
| 18:01.32 | wolfy | I really see no reason not to use debootstrap |
| 18:01.47 | rneese | I will try |
| 18:02.04 | rneese | and include a kernel I just found with sata in it |
| 18:03.05 | rneese | we plan to add a sata dom to our units |
| 18:05.04 | rneese | pulling my current img over that I dd off the sd . my build on wheexy and my current jessie |
| 18:11.37 | rneese | do you have to put a bootloader into the img ? |
| 18:11.50 | rneese | or does it use the loader on the nand |
| 18:16.47 | wolfy | rneese: either works |
| 18:17.43 | rneese | ok |
| 18:18.05 | rneese | we need to make a basic build script |
| 18:18.13 | rneese | thats does alot of the work |
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| 18:43.03 | rneese | ok I debootstrap and I added the kernerl and modules |
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| 18:43.16 | rneese | but not sure if it includes the firmware |
| 18:44.06 | wolfy | rneese: which kernel did you add ? |
| 18:45.14 | rneese | a220-kernel-3.4.67.tag.gz |
| 18:45.23 | rneese | 1 2 no 2 2 |
| 18:48.17 | rneese | a20-kernel-3.4.67 |
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| 18:49.42 | rneese | is there a diff kernel/modules/firmware I should use |
| 18:52.12 | rneese | so then format/newfs the sd and dd the data over to it ? |
| 18:53.31 | rneese | what dir to put the bootloader bin files |
| 18:53.39 | rneese | u-boot |
| 18:53.58 | rneese | I have u-boot-mmc-ext4.tar.gz |
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| 19:22.19 | rneese | wow he made a 596 meg kernel |
| 19:22.31 | rneese | thats got to be like every driver in the world |
| 19:44.29 | rneese | I just put the android on a 8 gig emmc with the tool |
| 19:44.33 | rneese | thats nice |
| 19:44.42 | rneese | just testing |
| 19:44.59 | rneese | wich now I can look at using the emmc as a build unit |
| 19:46.56 | rneese | but its not booting hmmm |
| 19:47.06 | rneese | it should boot just like a sd |
| 19:47.13 | rneese | when on the adapter |
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| 20:00.58 | rneese | well it did not write the img correctly so it did nto boot |
| 20:01.04 | rneese | o well |
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| 20:27.14 | emx | is it possible to install whatsapp on preinstalled android? |
| 20:33.35 | rneese_ | looks like no I ma tryingto install it on my 4.2.2 and it says the device is not supported |
| 20:33.49 | rneese_ | and sipdroid sucks |
| 20:34.58 | emx | hm.. .guess it's the same deal as with tablets... |
| 20:35.18 | rneese_ | it installed on my tablet fine |
| 20:35.29 | rneese_ | its saying the cubieboard is not supported |
| 20:36.04 | emx | rneese_, how did you manage? you can't use the normal installation path, can you? |
| 20:36.38 | emx | rneese_, (in case it has no gsm) |
| 20:36.46 | rneese_ | what tablet you have |
| 20:37.00 | rneese_ | whats app works over wifi |
| 20:37.10 | rneese_ | and sipdroid works over wifi |
| 20:38.39 | emx | rneese_, it's a samsung galaxy tab 3, no gsm |
| 20:38.40 | rneese_ | we just have to get ahold of the whats app devs and get the cubie supported |
| 20:39.15 | rneese_ | whatsapp woes not require gsm |
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| 20:42.17 | emx | i'm not even getting the install button.. |
| 20:42.22 | emx | on the app store page |
| 20:43.54 | rneese_ | and if you look below the page img it will say if un supported |
| 20:45.48 | emx | rneese_, "note: tablets are currently not supported." |
| 20:46.01 | emx | that's what what's app says when i try to start it. |
| 20:48.19 | rneese_ | it comes up |
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| 20:48.48 | rneese_ | I have a 4.1.2 android |
| 20:49.39 | rneese_ | I have a omip android tablet |
| 20:51.01 | rneese_ | but I would like to work on getting it on the cubie |
| 20:51.17 | rneese_ | along with linphone wich seems not to install |
| 20:54.27 | emx | rneese_, it worked. i guess i simply aborted the startup when i first used it on a tablet. |
| 20:55.00 | emx | i wish whatsapp was available for linux... :-/ |
| 20:55.10 | emx | and there you can linphone whatever you want. |
| 20:56.17 | emx | now i can use my nokia 6510 again for sms and phone :D |
| 20:56.26 | emx | *6150 |
| 20:57.02 | rneese_ | nice |
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| 21:02.22 | emx | thanks, btw |
| 21:04.12 | rneese_ | ok |
| 21:04.14 | rneese_ | np |
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| 21:29.59 | sillybilly | Evening |
| 21:30.18 | sillybilly | anyone running cubie with a sata drive? |
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| 22:16.07 | RafaelK | hello folks, does support cubietruck wakeOnLan? |
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| 23:14.48 | rneese_ | I dont knw any arm borads that do |
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