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| 00:42.25 | Vanfanel | Hi there |
| 00:43.00 | Vanfanel | are there instructions to flash new Android img files to NAND from withing the Cubieboard running Debian Linux itself? |
| 00:43.39 | Vanfanel | It's VERY difficult for me to enter FEL mode because I have to remove the board from it's case, and that's not easy |
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| 01:44.26 | Mr_Electronico | Is possible install any Linux system in Cubieboard ? |
| 01:45.46 | ttmrichter | Mr_Electronico: Well, you can't install a Linux system compiled for x86 obviously. |
| 01:47.16 | Mr_Electronico | Ok..then how I can install ? |
| 01:47.42 | Mr_Electronico | How I can translate any Linux system to Cubieboard |
| 02:08.06 | ttmrichter | You get a Linux system compiled for the A10/20 (as appropriate) or you build one yourself. |
| 02:08.38 | ttmrichter | You're kind of asking here "how can I make a chocolate chip cookie out of broccoli". |
| 02:08.44 | ttmrichter | It's ... just not a sensible question. |
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| 05:29.34 | Gumboot_ | ttmrichter: I think he meant any Linux distribution. |
| 05:31.34 | Gumboot | And since so many of them support ARMv7 (distinct from the pi situation) the answer's near enough to yes. |
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| 11:12.42 | emx | i can't compile firefox or opera for gentoo on cb2. i guess some code has to be arm-specific. which browser can i use with cb2 that can cope with today's technology? |
| 11:14.16 | Wizzup | what is the error? |
| 11:14.21 | Wizzup | I have fireox working fine |
| 11:14.30 | Wizzup | gentoo on cb2 |
| 11:21.24 | Wizzup | emx: perhaps neon related? |
| 11:21.44 | Wizzup | also, do you have enough ram? |
| 11:22.18 | emx | Wizzup, just a sek. i try to emerge to tell you the exact error message. |
| 11:22.22 | emx | *sec |
| 11:22.34 | Wizzup | You'll have the error that fast? |
| 11:22.45 | emx | Wizzup, which resolution do you use in X? |
| 11:23.10 | Wizzup | I am not actively using my cb2 atm |
| 11:23.13 | Wizzup | Why do you ask |
| 11:23.19 | Wizzup | Typically 1080p |
| 11:23.23 | emx | Wizzup, yes. it is the binary btw. |
| 11:23.32 | Wizzup | Oh.. |
| 11:23.34 | Wizzup | emx: That will not work |
| 11:23.43 | emx | Wizzup, i use fbturbo as gfx driver at it only goes up to 720p |
| 11:23.47 | Wizzup | Do you have pulseaudio enabled? |
| 11:23.57 | Wizzup | emx: I doubt that somehow @ gbturbo :) |
| 11:24.09 | emx | Wizzup, when i try to emerge firefox (not -bin) i get another error message in libvpx. |
| 11:24.20 | Wizzup | which error |
| 11:24.24 | Wizzup | I can help with that |
| 11:24.25 | emx | Wizzup, i think no. why? |
| 11:24.29 | Wizzup | probably just need libvpx stable |
| 11:24.35 | Wizzup | emx: I may have a binary build somewhere |
| 11:24.43 | Wizzup | no guarantees |
| 11:24.49 | emx | Wizzup, let's try the hard way first :) |
| 11:25.46 | Wizzup | emx: I recall you need newer - unstable - libvps |
| 11:25.49 | Wizzup | vps |
| 11:25.58 | Wizzup | has something to do with new glibc and upstream advice is to get new version |
| 11:26.04 | Wizzup | vpx |
| 11:26.09 | Wizzup | so 1.2.0-pre |
| 11:26.34 | emx | ok. stable is 1.1.0. is there an ebuild? |
| 11:26.53 | Wizzup | http://213.124.216.120/gentoo/www-client/ You can try one of these, but yeah, no clue if it'll actually work |
| 11:27.07 | Wizzup | I don't recommend my binpkg for anything atm, as I am switching to hardened, but firefox is still without hardening |
| 11:27.18 | Wizzup | emx: in portage there is also a 1.2.0-pre |
| 11:27.26 | Wizzup | media-libs/libvpx |
| 11:27.27 | Wizzup | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.01 | emx | i'll try it soon. |
| 11:28.26 | emx | Wizzup, which tutorial did you use for the X11 driver? |
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| 11:30.25 | emx | Wizzup, "collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status" |
| 11:31.14 | Wizzup | emx: https://github.com/StephanvanSchaik/gentoo-on-arm/blob/master/cubieboard2/index.md |
| 11:31.20 | Wizzup | emx: need more info than that |
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| 11:33.56 | Vanfanel | ssvb: AreaScout and I have two different MALI(GLES/EGL) and LIMA backends for RetroArch, but we're having problems with vsync. The ioctl I'm using, FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC, is causing the emulation of all systems to be very slow. Isn't there a way to simply activate EGL vsync so there's no need for this ioctl before calling eglSwapBuffers() ??? |
| 11:34.31 | Fangorn | Hello |
| 11:34.49 | emx | Wizzup, X11 is a dead link, right? |
| 11:34.57 | Fangorn | Any try connect dac over spi or i2s? |
| 11:35.42 | Wizzup | emx: it appears so, ask swabbles |
| 11:35.45 | Wizzup | swabbles: PING |
| 11:36.47 | ssvb | Vanfanel: FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC naturally limits the framerate to 60 frames per second, and it needs to be called after (not before) eglSwapBuffers to avoid tearing |
| 11:39.13 | Fangorn | Nobody? |
| 11:39.25 | Wizzup | has not yet |
| 11:40.02 | Wizzup | swabbles: Have you considered making a cubieboard overlay? |
| 11:40.06 | Vanfanel | ssvb: thanks for the clearing!! I run to test it NOW!! :D |
| 11:40.09 | Wizzup | swabbles: Maybe we should |
| 11:40.28 | Fangorn | I see alsa for soc don't support allwinner |
| 11:42.11 | Fangorn | But i found ready for use dac extension for cubie, but for 300-400$ |
| 11:42.23 | Fangorn | Anyone has it? |
| 11:42.31 | emx | Wizzup, did you crosscompile your gentoo? |
| 11:43.43 | Wizzup | No |
| 11:44.06 | Wizzup | I did use binpkg for it, because my ODROID has a binpkg |
| 11:44.10 | Fangorn | also have question... how you use your cubie? |
| 11:44.31 | Wizzup | Fangorn: cubieboard audio should just work |
| 11:44.32 | Wizzup | afaik |
| 11:44.35 | emx | Wizzup, k. which one do you like better for playing fullHD movies? |
| 11:44.55 | Wizzup | emx: Cannot comment. I have seen swabbles playing fullhd movies on his cubie. |
| 11:45.06 | Wizzup | Odroid, I mostly use it as build server and desktop |
| 11:45.10 | Wizzup | never got hw decoding ti work |
| 11:45.11 | emx | where is that swabbles guy? |
| 11:45.14 | Wizzup | in here. |
| 11:45.27 | Wizzup | Never put a lot of effort in trying to get odroid hw decoding to work though |
| 11:45.51 | Wizzup | He sleeps at the weirdest times though |
| 11:45.51 | Wizzup | ;-) |
| 11:46.03 | emx | hehe |
| 11:46.33 | Fangorn | Wizzup: I intresting to use more quallity dac |
| 11:46.49 | emx | i started the emerge with the unstable libvpx. unfortunately python has to be recomplied so it will take some time. |
| 11:46.51 | Wizzup | Fangorn: maybe a usb audio card? |
| 11:47.00 | Wizzup | emx: heh, firefox will take hours |
| 11:47.06 | Wizzup | make sure you have some swap on a HDD (not microsd) |
| 11:47.16 | Wizzup | and please dont compile on microsd. they break |
| 11:47.18 | Wizzup | :) |
| 11:47.32 | emx | Wizzup, good point. seems like i need to reswap to my ssd. |
| 11:47.34 | Fangorn | Yep. But more intresting use own diy extension ) |
| 11:47.44 | Wizzup | yes, probably |
| 11:47.52 | Wizzup | emx: or just mount /var/tmp/portage on it |
| 11:48.00 | Wizzup | Fangorn: okay,then I do not know |
| 11:48.49 | Fangorn | Gentoo at cubie work? How many time spend compiling all at cubie? |
| 11:49.13 | Wizzup | gentoo works on _ALL_ the things |
| 11:49.14 | Fangorn | Or all use crosscompilling? |
| 11:49.15 | Wizzup | And darn well, too :) |
| 11:49.34 | Wizzup | Fangorn: As stated, I compiled a lot on my quad core arm, but compiling on cubie works fine too |
| 11:49.36 | Fangorn | I like gentoo ) |
| 11:49.41 | Wizzup | Just don't use microsd :)) |
| 11:50.12 | Fangorn | Why not at big x86 pc? |
| 11:52.35 | emx | Fangorn, to loud, heat generation, wasting of current because not used... |
| 11:52.41 | emx | s/to/too |
| 11:53.19 | Fangorn | Hum... |
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| 11:54.50 | EdBr | hello, I good Morning |
| 11:55.08 | EdBr | I have a problem with my internet on CB2 |
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| 11:55.30 | emx | Fangorn, currently i'm sitting at an octacore laptop and all i do is chatting in irc and browsing. |
| 11:55.37 | EdBr | I use wifi but it doesn't work |
| 11:55.42 | emx | EdBr, hi. thanks for telling :o) |
| 11:56.14 | Wizzup | Fangorn: cross compiling is not always easy |
| 11:56.24 | Wizzup | typically you end up with qemu-user and stuff |
| 11:56.26 | Wizzup | A bit of a pain |
| 11:56.33 | Wizzup | Some packages do not like being cross compiled |
| 11:56.43 | Wizzup | I found either using a different ARM machine (same arch) or just on the device itself is easier |
| 11:57.17 | EdBr | Hi emx thank |
| 11:57.24 | EdBr | I install here |
| 11:57.24 | EdBr | http://cubieboard.org/2013/12/21/a-debian-image-for-cubieboard2-cubieez/ |
| 11:57.52 | Fangorn | I don't try crosscompilling. But will try, think |
| 11:57.58 | EdBr | emx: I have configure my internet? |
| 11:58.22 | EdBr | sorry my bad english. I'm from Brazil |
| 11:58.30 | Fangorn | EdBr - it's question? |
| 11:58.44 | Fangorn | I'm from Russia ) |
| 11:59.39 | EdBr | Fangorn: how can I make my wifi work? I have already connected to my network but not enter into any site. |
| 11:59.39 | Fangorn | Bear, vodka, matreshka ) |
| 12:00.09 | Fangorn | Try ifconfig command |
| 12:00.37 | Fangorn | How you see what you connected? |
| 12:01.03 | Vanfanel | ssvb: calling ioctl(fb, FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC, 0) after eglSwapBuffers() doesn't work: refresh isn't synced at all. |
| 12:01.40 | Vanfanel | ssvb: But if called before, vsync seems to work, but since that ioctl is blocking, it prevents CPU from working on new frames. |
| 12:02.02 | emx | EdBr, did you check if your wlan device is recognised by linux? |
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| 12:02.05 | emx | (lsusb) |
| 12:02.29 | emx | Wizzup, do you mind pasting your make.conf (and maybe package.*) and your xorg.conf? |
| 12:02.30 | EdBr | Fangorn: I conected my wifi,when I enter in browser i have a "server not found" |
| 12:02.57 | Fangorn | Use ifconfig command in terminal and post it |
| 12:03.14 | EdBr | I don't know with configure my device |
| 12:03.15 | Fangorn | Here |
| 12:03.57 | emx | EdBr, which distribution do you use (debian, cubian, ubuntu, gentoo, arch linux?) |
| 12:04.59 | ssvb | Vanfanel: to get CPU working on new frames you can do this in a separate thread |
| 12:05.07 | Wizzup | emx: from cubie? dont have that here. |
| 12:05.12 | Wizzup | Sorry, cannot help atm with that |
| 12:05.31 | EdBr | emx: I use cubie |
| 12:05.33 | EdBr | cubian |
| 12:05.46 | EdBr | emx: http://cubieboard.org/2013/12/21/a-debian-image-for-cubieboard2-cubieez/ |
| 12:05.51 | ssvb | Vanfanel: as for vsync, this does not make much sense |
| 12:06.03 | EdBr | U use this image |
| 12:06.16 | Wizzup | emx: I am actually using gentoo on cubie2 for work, so I'll definitely get back to you |
| 12:06.20 | Wizzup | probaby with guides, later |
| 12:06.26 | emx | Wizzup, k. i just realised that the last commit to "gentoo-on-arm" removed X11.md. |
| 12:06.31 | Fangorn | EdBr - you see my messages?... ) |
| 12:06.31 | EdBr | emx: I use Nand Image |
| 12:06.35 | Wizzup | emx: heh |
| 12:07.16 | emx | Wizzup, did you use the overlay, btw? |
| 12:07.27 | Vanfanel | ssvb: thanks |
| 12:07.32 | EdBr | Fangorn: when I conected I see "server not found" |
| 12:07.39 | emx | EdBr, then tell us what lsusb lists. |
| 12:07.52 | ssvb | Vanfanel: FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC waits until the previously scheduled FBIOPAN (called from eglSwapBuffers) takes effect |
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| 12:07.58 | emx | EdBr, you can use pastebin.com or pastie.org to post your output. |
| 12:09.11 | Fangorn | emx - they say that already connected to wifi. Think all right with hardware |
| 12:09.49 | Vanfanel | ssvb: the problem here is that, sadly, I'm getting a way slower gles performance from the Cubieboard2 than I get from the Raspberry Pi for RetroArch using GLES, IF I use that ioctl to wait for vsync. So, isn't there another way around this? |
| 12:10.38 | emx | then the question is if there is a networkmanager installed. |
| 12:11.00 | EdBr | emx: Bus 002 Device 002: ID Obda: 8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. |
| 12:11.08 | Vanfanel | ssvb: The Cubie2 is supposed to be 3 times as powerfull in bot CPU and GPU than the Pi, so RetroArch, using GLES in both cases, should perform accordingly |
| 12:11.33 | emx | EdBr, k, so your device is running. what does ifconfig output? |
| 12:11.37 | ssvb | Vanfanel: 3 times more powerful for GPU? why would you think so? |
| 12:12.08 | EdBr | emx: yes it work, but not conect. |
| 12:12.12 | Vanfanel | ssvb: doesn't the Cubie2 have twin MALI400 GPUs? Maybe I'm mistaken... |
| 12:12.29 | EdBr | emx: when I enter in webpage I see "server not found" |
| 12:12.31 | Fangorn | Emx - i think they use network manager to connect |
| 12:12.32 | emx | EdBr, please post output of ifconfig |
| 12:12.42 | emx | Fangorn, i guess so. |
| 12:12.54 | Fangorn | write to EdBr pm |
| 12:13.00 | emx | k |
| 12:13.26 | Fangorn | EdBr - you really can't open terminal? |
| 12:13.28 | ssvb | Vanfanel: doesn't Rpi have four (or sixteen?) GPU cores? |
| 12:14.15 | Vanfanel | ssvb: Yes, but all the GPU does here is to render a texture. |
| 12:15.09 | EdBr | emx: one minute because I have write in my notebook |
| 12:15.13 | EdBr | hehe |
| 12:15.41 | Fangorn | ...hehe... |
| 12:16.29 | Fangorn | Who use spi or i2s at cubie? |
| 12:17.03 | ssvb | Vanfanel: hmm, this infor about the rpi gpu is a bit confusing - https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv-qpu |
| 12:17.51 | ssvb | Vanfanel: on one hand it says "Videocoreiv Quad Processor Units", but on another hand it also says "Dualcore Videocore IV CPU @250MHz with SIMD Parallel Pixel Units (PPU)" |
| 12:18.02 | EdBr | emx: http://pastebin.com/S9RKjRAp |
| 12:18.06 | EdBr | Fangorn: http://pastebin.com/S9RKjRAp |
| 12:18.41 | emx | EdBr, and output of ifconfig? |
| 12:18.49 | Fangorn | Hum... |
| 12:19.17 | ssvb | Vanfanel: what you need to do is to clearly identify what is the source of the performance bottleneck |
| 12:19.34 | Vanfanel | ssvb: it's clear: the ioctl call to wait for vsync |
| 12:19.40 | ssvb | Vanfanel: profiling with perf or oprofile can help to see if anything is hogging the cpu |
| 12:20.06 | ssvb | Vanfanel: sorry, but "it works for me" (tm) :) |
| 12:21.03 | Vanfanel | ssvb: do you mean you've tested RetroArch + GLES on your Cubie2 and it works well for you?? |
| 12:21.27 | ssvb | Vanfanel: I have no idea what RetroArch is |
| 12:22.00 | ssvb | Vanfanel: what I say is that tear-free OpenGL ES works fine without extra overhead |
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| 12:22.36 | Vanfanel | ssvb: it's an API for lagless emulation: https://github.com/libretro |
| 12:23.04 | Vanfanel | ssvb: would you please give RetroArch a go on the Cubie2? |
| 12:23.20 | EdBr | emx: now my device reboot when i conected internet |
| 12:23.44 | Vanfanel | ssvb: out repo with fb/EGL/GLES support is here: https://github.com/AreaScout/RetroArch |
| 12:23.49 | EdBr | : ( |
| 12:24.44 | Vanfanel | ssvb: you simply have to build with GLES support and try an SNES game with the SNES9x-next core |
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| 12:28.47 | gregor3005 | hi, today i tested a hd video on my cb3 with lubuntu and mplayer. it stucks very but. i run lubuntu from an 2.5" sata hdd (40mb/s with dd) |
| 12:29.33 | gregor3005 | the sound is great, its an mkv file. avi files with lower resolutions run perfect |
| 12:30.23 | EdBr | emx: |
| 12:30.28 | EdBr | sorry |
| 12:30.30 | EdBr | http://pastebin.com/vzHdTwSr |
| 12:30.32 | EdBr | emx: http://pastebin.com/vzHdTwSr |
| 12:32.07 | emx | EdBr, do you connect both cable and wifi? maybe you should /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop (don't know if that works in cubian. or simply unplug cable.) |
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| 12:33.56 | EdBr | emx: when I connect cable in my dive it reboot |
| 12:34.54 | emx | EdBr, did you configure your nic (the thing you plug the cable in)? or didn't you configure anything? |
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| 12:36.12 | EdBr | emx: I didn't configure anything |
| 12:36.33 | emx | do you try to connect to the internet with the cable plugged in? |
| 12:36.36 | EdBr | emx: I just intall cubian |
| 12:37.00 | EdBr | emx: when I connect cable my device reboot |
| 12:37.37 | emx | EdBr, that's not what i'm asking. is the cable plugged in right now? |
| 12:38.30 | EdBr | yes |
| 12:38.37 | EdBr | emx: I connect now my cable |
| 12:38.51 | emx | don't |
| 12:39.48 | EdBr | emx: I connect my cable and my internet work now |
| 12:41.09 | emx | EdBr, what happens when you call "ifdown eth0"? |
| 12:42.22 | emx | Wizzup, pulseaudion doesn't configure (configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool) |
| 12:42.24 | emx | any help? |
| 12:42.33 | Fangorn | Disconnect cable |
| 12:42.38 | EdBr | emx: ifdown eth0 RTNETLINK answers: No such process |
| 12:42.56 | Wizzup | emx: did you emerge it with nodeps? |
| 12:43.09 | emx | Wizzup, checking |
| 12:43.35 | EdBr | emx: cable doesn't work ok? |
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| 12:44.10 | emx | EdBr, i assume that cubian tries to use eth0 (cable) to connect to the internet weather it is plugged in or not. |
| 12:44.57 | Fangorn | Emx - think eth0 is down then cable out |
| 12:45.05 | emx | Wizzup, what do you mean by nodeps? i don't see that useflag. |
| 12:45.32 | Fangorn | EdBr - unplug cable and do ifconfig |
| 12:45.45 | emx | Fangorn, then why did he have an ip adress if he didn't configure eth0, i.e. when the ip is assigned dynamically to eth0? |
| 12:47.01 | Fangorn | I think they do ifconfig with cable |
| 12:47.20 | Fangorn | Nope? |
| 12:47.26 | EdBr | emx: ifconfig with cable and adapter wifi |
| 12:47.42 | Fangorn | Tada ) |
| 12:47.51 | emx | EdBr, then do ifconfig wihtout cable plugged in. |
| 12:48.14 | emx | also pot output of route |
| 12:48.19 | emx | *post |
| 12:48.36 | Wizzup | emx: if you dont know it, nevermind |
| 12:48.38 | EdBr | emx: http://pastebin.com/dik7yVzD |
| 12:48.41 | Wizzup | try asking in #gentoo |
| 12:49.01 | emx | Wizzup, k, thanks. |
| 12:49.08 | EdBr | emx: now i disconnect wifi |
| 12:49.11 | EdBr | just a minute |
| 12:50.01 | Fangorn | Emx eth0 is down |
| 12:52.08 | EdBr | emx: without cablet plugged in |
| 12:53.01 | EdBr | emx: http://pastebin.com/9sYPECdj |
| 12:53.49 | EdBr | emx: now my divice work internet |
| 12:53.59 | EdBr | emx: I reboot my device. OK? |
| 12:54.10 | emx | EdBr, yes, but without cable plugged in. |
| 12:54.15 | EdBr | emx: only wifi adapter |
| 12:54.34 | EdBr | emx: work only wifi adapter |
| 12:55.11 | Fangorn | Internet work with wifi? |
| 12:55.43 | Fangorn | I see traffic |
| 12:55.56 | EdBr | emx: just a minute. I reboot my divice |
| 12:58.57 | EdBr | emx: not work now |
| 12:59.42 | EdBr | emx: when I reebot my device only adapter wifi . it doesn't work |
| 12:59.48 | EdBr | : ( |
| 13:03.08 | EdBr | emx: what best OS for CB2? |
| 13:03.13 | Wizzup | gentoooooo |
| 13:03.24 | Wizzup | If you have prior knowledge |
| 13:09.40 | EdBr | emx: any Idea? |
| 13:17.39 | Vanfanel | ssvb: ok... if you look here: http://www.khronos.org/registry/egl/sdk/docs/man/xhtml/eglSwapInterval.html, it seems to me that eglSwapBuffers() SHOULD wait for vsync |
| 13:18.05 | Vanfanel | ssvb: so, there should be no need for the FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC ioctl at all. |
| 13:18.19 | Vanfanel | ssvb: any idea on why it doesn't work as it should?? |
| 13:18.35 | ssvb | Vanfanel: you are free to send a bugreport to ARM |
| 13:18.37 | emx | EdBr, what happens when you boot up with cable plugged in and then remove the cable? does wifi work? |
| 13:19.04 | Vanfanel | to ARM holdings??? :D |
| 13:19.16 | Vanfanel | ssvb: seriously, where should I report this? |
| 13:20.03 | Vanfanel | ssvb: ok, what other options, other than using /dev/fb* or X11, do we have for the EGL context? |
| 13:20.08 | ssvb | Vanfanel: http://malideveloper.arm.com/ |
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| 13:27.31 | EdBr | emx: what SO do you use? |
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| 13:49.01 | emx | EdBr, gentoo |
| 13:49.09 | emx | but you need lots of experience with it. |
| 13:49.27 | emx | best start with linux from scratch. |
| 13:49.36 | emx | that makes you understand linux quite well. |
| 13:53.51 | EdBr | emx: well, i think try fedora |
| 13:54.07 | EdBr | i have a problem now after edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:54.38 | EdBr | when I write my login and password my device restart |
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| 14:46.15 | wooy | EdBr: debian |
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| 14:59.12 | EdBr | wooy: thank you. I use Linux Mint in my laptop |
| 14:59.25 | EdBr | I like debian but is very difficult |
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| 15:30.36 | Fangorn | EdBr - your wifi is working? |
| 15:34.33 | EdBr | Fangorn: yes. now my wifi work |
| 15:35.12 | EdBr | Fangorn: I edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:38.01 | Fangorn | And? Delete eth0? |
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| 15:44.40 | EdBr | Fangorn: disabled eth0 |
| 15:44.48 | EdBr | # |
| 15:45.37 | EdBr | Fangorn: auto wlan0 |
| 15:46.00 | EdBr | and I set IP, netmask, gateway |
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| 15:52.27 | EdBr | Fangorn: now it OK with mi wifi. Thank you |
| 16:05.34 | EdBr | Fangorn: my problem now is HDMI. display |
| 16:05.36 | EdBr | hehe |
| 16:08.39 | EdBr | emx: Now my wifi work very well |
| 16:08.53 | EdBr | thank for your help |
| 16:12.45 | Fangorn | What with hdmi? |
| 16:14.21 | EdBr | in my TV when I set 16:9 the image is larger than the screen of the TV, so the menu bar is missing |
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| 16:43.53 | swabbles | Wizzup: the only things that would end up in such an overlay would be the existing libvdpau-sunxi and x11-video-fbturbo ebuilds, though. |
| 16:45.02 | Wizzup | cubie-sources? |
| 16:45.03 | Wizzup | Until mainlined, of course |
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| 16:46.38 | swabbles | Would prefer to call that sunxi-sources, though. |
| 16:47.41 | Wizzup | Sure... |
| 16:48.15 | Wizzup | I'll just put it in grand tree |
| 16:48.15 | swabbles | emx: I've compiled most packages on the Cubieboard 2 itself, used my Samsung ARM Chromebook for firefox. |
| 16:48.25 | Wizzup | Soon I'll get some more cubie2s |
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| 17:21.02 | Vanfanel | ssvb: this is the question I made in the arm devs center: http://community.arm.com/thread/4815 |
| 17:21.16 | Vanfanel | ssvb: just in case you want to take a look and tell me what do you think |
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| 18:42.33 | kenny | Is there any kind of feature matrix on what is supported for which chips in which kernels? |
| 19:01.05 | emx | swabbles, compiling libvpx in version 1.2.0_pre was the key. now i'm into a few hours compiling firefox. let's see how it works out. |
| 19:01.22 | emx | swabbles, but what i didn't manage is setting a resolution of 1920x1080. |
| 19:01.43 | emx | with fbturbo it's at 720p atm. |
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| 19:16.02 | ssvb | emx: the screen resolution is initially set by the kernel (taken from script.bin or from monitor EDID or from kernel cmdline) |
| 19:20.06 | ssvb | emx: try to add "disp.screen0_output_mode=1920x1080p60" to the kernel cmdline |
| 19:20.22 | ssvb | emx: or basically have a look at http://linux-sunxi.org/Display#Changing_resolution |
| 19:25.56 | kenny | What kernel that's 3.8 or later is recommended on the CB2 for mmc, ethernet, and usb support? (mainline 3.13? sunxi-next?) |
| 19:25.58 | ssvb | kenny: none |
| 19:26.20 | ssvb | kenny: or the very latest if you are really adventurous |
| 19:27.01 | kenny | ssvb: I'm adventurous, and it's not a critical system or anything. My latest you mean sunxi-next? or sunxi-devel? (or something else) |
| 19:28.02 | kenny | I'm okay with 'should work', I'm just trying to figure out what is supported where |
| 19:28.17 | kenny | (I'm looking to see if I can get docker.io running on it) |
| 19:29.09 | ssvb | I guess you may try http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm.sunxi/5218 |
| 19:30.20 | kenny | cool, thank you. I'll give that a shot |
| 19:35.03 | emx | ssvb, what exactly is EDID? i thought it reads out the capabilities of the monitor and my monitor is capable of 1080p...? but i will try your suggestion. |
| 19:35.43 | emx | how stupid is it to start virtualbox with gentoo armv7a as guest and compile from there? |
| 19:36.02 | ssvb | emx: if you want it to read the resolution from your monitor, then you need "disp.screen0_output_mode=EDID" |
| 19:36.30 | ssvb | emx: about EDID - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data |
| 19:37.09 | emx | i got disconnected, so i don't know if my second message went through. here it is again: how stupid is it to start virtualbox with gentoo armv7a as guest and compile from there? |
| 19:37.46 | ssvb | don't know, does virtualbox support arm emulation? |
| 19:38.11 | ssvb | or what exactly do you want to achieve? |
| 19:39.31 | emx | ssvb, i got the choice to compile with my cubieboard (slow) or with crosscompiling (will it do its job correctly?) and now i got this idea. |
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| 19:41.17 | ssvb | emx: crosscompile what? the kernel is easy and fast |
| 19:41.28 | ssvb | emx: but the packages in general are a major PITA |
| 19:42.03 | emx | ssvb, yes. u-boot/kernel was easy. but firefox...? |
| 19:42.16 | ssvb | emx: you may try http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1&chap=5 |
| 19:43.59 | emx | ssvb, maybe that's the easiest way. |
| 19:44.17 | emx | although they need to update chapter "boards" :P |
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| 19:45.37 | ssvb | emx: the easiest way is just to buy some fast arm hardware and use it as a build machine :) |
| 19:46.14 | ssvb | emx: you can also compile natively on the cubieboard, but setup distcc |
| 19:46.50 | ssvb | emx: so that it would get a help from your desktop pc |
| 19:47.10 | emx | ssvb, so there are no architecture-limits in distcc? |
| 19:47.16 | emx | interesting. |
| 19:47.39 | emx | does it have to be another gentoo box? |
| 19:47.48 | ssvb | emx: obviously you have to setup distcc with an arm crosscompiler |
| 19:48.38 | ssvb | emx: yes, preferably another gentoo box, because you want the crosscompiler to be exactly matching the compiler from your arm device |
| 19:48.42 | emx | easier done than said. |
| 19:49.03 | ssvb | yes, that's why a fast arm build machine is the easiest :) |
| 19:50.39 | emx | ssvb, what is there on the market that is arm and fast? i only know about ondroid and wandboard. |
| 19:51.14 | ssvb | odroids are probably the best in terms of price/performance |
| 19:52.17 | emx | do they have a standalone nic-chip or is it a usb device? |
| 19:52.38 | ssvb | unfortunately usb |
| 19:54.04 | ssvb | cubox-i might be good, but it is very new and it is only 1GHz cortex-a9 quadcore |
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| 19:54.19 | ssvb | also there is radxa from hipboi_ |
| 19:55.09 | emx | i love the way the world is changing :> |
| 19:56.45 | emx | what's all the cortex-AX stuff btw. it seems to me like it is an arbitrary enumeration such that one can't tell which one is the newer generation. or am i wrong? |
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| 20:10.27 | ssvb | Vanfanel: I have checked the demo program with the mali framebuffer driver, and looks like it indeed has tearing problem now |
| 20:10.57 | ssvb | Vanfanel: but I'm pretty sure it worked before, so some bisecting might be needed |
| 20:11.44 | ssvb | Vanfanel: for another framebuffer vsync test, you can try https://github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-fbturbo/blob/master/test/sunxi_disp_vsync_demo.c (but it does not use mali) |
| 20:13.15 | ssvb | Vanfanel: you can also try libhybris with android mali blobs, it handles vsync correctly, but has high cpu usage |
| 20:16.57 | ssvb | Vanfanel: anyway, the ball is on your side now :) |
| 20:20.23 | Vanfanel | ssvb: did you see my post here?-> http://community.arm.com/thread/4815 |
| 20:20.55 | ssvb | Vanfanel: yes |
| 20:21.05 | Vanfanel | ssvb: if you look at my post, my code and the docs I link, it's obvious that there's a problem with swap interval |
| 20:21.20 | Vanfanel | eglSwapInterval (display,1) is simply ignored |
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| 20:21.25 | Vanfanel | always returns true |
| 20:21.28 | Vanfanel | it's broken |
| 20:21.52 | ssvb | Vanfanel: well, the mali driver has some glitches here and there |
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| 20:23.09 | akaber | hello , any one have gpio diagram for cubietruck ? |
| 20:23.43 | ssvb | Vanfanel: but I'm more worried that FBIOPAN_DISPLAY does not seem to work nicely with FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC and this likely points to a problem in the framebuffer driver |
| 20:25.00 | ssvb | Vanfanel: if you run the framebuffer gles program as 'strace -f <program-name>', you can see that the mali blob is doing FBIOPAN_DISPLAY as part of eglSwapBuffers |
| 20:26.32 | ssvb | Vanfanel: it is just missing FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC there, but even if it had these ioctl calls, they would not help much |
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| 20:34.39 | mifritscher | hi |
| 20:35.14 | mifritscher | I'm interested into the cubietruck because of its all-in own approach (cpu, flash, bt, wlan etc.) |
| 20:35.56 | ssvb | Vanfanel: hmm, nice, vsync seems to be also broken in libhybris now :) |
| 20:36.25 | mifritscher | how crucial is a stable 5V power? Or: what is driven directly by 5V despite usb and the SATA-device? And: are the voltage regulators linar ones or switching ones? |
| 20:37.07 | mifritscher | I'm asking because I'm wondering whether I can use the board on my little roboter which get its power from a USB accu |
| 20:38.39 | Night-Shade | mifritscher: I have mine running off a normal usb port with a SATA SSD |
| 20:38.55 | Night-Shade | I'm working it fairly hard building kernels etc |
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| 20:39.30 | Vanfanel | ssvb: maybe the drivers are getting an overhaul and that's why some important features are broken? |
| 20:40.51 | mifritscher | do you know how much power does it draw? I read that 500mA are enough for the board (without hdd) - if it's using lets say 300mA with enabled WLAN and sending a low res video stream from a USB-camera it would be great |
| 20:41.19 | mifritscher | I hat some problems with it on the carambola, that's why I'm asking |
| 20:41.47 | Night-Shade | if you are just wanting to send video there are better options |
| 20:42.20 | mifritscher | I'm planing to put ros on it ;) |
| 20:42.36 | mifritscher | but I don't think that ros needs much power |
| 20:42.42 | Vanfanel | ssvb: maybe I should stay away from the cubie2 (for GLES on fb stuff) until the mainlined is completed? |
| 20:42.49 | Vanfanel | *mainlining |
| 20:42.52 | mifritscher | perhaps I'l play with olrsd as well |
| 20:43.47 | ssvb | Vanfanel: if you have better options, than this would be reasonable |
| 20:44.33 | Vanfanel | ssvb: yeah, I have an IFC6410 (freedreno reference board, yay!) sitting on my desk :D |
| 20:46.24 | Vanfanel | ssvb: what does this sunxi_wait_for_vsync(disp) fn do under the hood? Does it also use the FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC ioctl then?? |
| 20:46.47 | ssvb | Vanfanel: yes |
| 20:48.06 | Vanfanel | ssvb: thanks for the new example, really, but it's not the fix I need if it uses the same ioctl call that's causing me so much troube :P |
| 20:49.05 | ssvb | Vanfanel: that's just an example of using disp layers via some thin wrapper functions (these functions are also used for implementing scaled tear-free video overlay for xf86-video-fbturbo) |
| 20:49.47 | Vanfanel | ssvb: I see :) |
| 20:50.07 | ssvb | Vanfanel: the only difference is that it is not using FBIOPAN_DISPLAY |
| 20:50.53 | ssvb | Vanfanel: and the sunxi disp layers seem to be working correctly with FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC |
| 20:52.56 | ssvb | btw, libhybris still also works correctly after all (I just forgot that I had vsync artifically disabled for gralloc to test the performance) |
| 21:03.42 | gregor3005 | hi, does anybody played supertux on an cb3 with lubuntu? its is so slow. also hd movies don't work well |
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| 21:11.59 | ssvb | Vanfanel: actually you can try the following simple kernel patch - https://gist.github.com/ssvb/8088519 :) |
| 21:13.00 | gregor3005 | a friend created a clean cubian for cb3 which support all drivers. should he publish it anywhere? |
| 21:13.01 | ssvb | Vanfanel: it just forces FBIOPAN_DISPLAY to also block until next vsync |
| 21:13.23 | ssvb | Vanfanel: seems to work here |
| 21:26.55 | Vanfanel | ssvb: that patch has no sense: it deletes a line and adds the same line |
| 21:27.25 | ssvb | Vanfanel: it uncomments this line |
| 21:28.12 | Vanfanel | and it does make eglSwapInterval(display, 1) work??? |
| 21:35.50 | gregor3005 | is it normal that the nand store is slower than a sd card? |
| 21:43.22 | ssvb | Vanfanel: I guess it forces the eglSwapInterval to 1 unconditionally, pick your poison |
| 21:44.07 | Vanfanel | that's good enough for me! I will test it tomorrow.. gf is here :) |
| 21:44.09 | Vanfanel | thanks!! |
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| 22:11.35 | SirHaXalot | hello world :) |
| 22:12.12 | SirHaXalot | datagutt, you here? |
| 22:14.48 | SirHaXalot | any other android dev? |
| 22:26.10 | SirHaXalot | ok, anyways, happy xmax and a happy new year, i hope to see some development next year for the cubietruck :) |
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