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| 00:44.02 | Enders | Hi, is anyone available to answer a question I have about my Cubieboard? |
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| 08:33.56 | focus | l_r: cubieboard can take USB cameras - it is dependent on which kernel is being used to make the Linux - linux-sunxi stage-3.4 has some camera enabled. you can download an image with it on http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/eoma_boot.html#Ubunt_13_04_3D |
| 08:34.40 | l_r | focus, yes,but i am talking about cameras connected via csi or ccp |
| 08:34.58 | l_r | about sensors |
| 08:42.21 | focus | l_r: It appears header U15 has camera sensor lines wired to it - CSI0/TS and CSI1/TS |
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| 08:48.08 | mnemoc | focus: did you have time to look at the lapdock thing? |
| 08:48.40 | mnemoc | focus: we can then try to convince cubietech or radxa to build it |
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| 08:55.36 | focus | mnemoc: i want something similar to lapdock - difficult to describe what i want but it is a lapdock in disguise. if i feed off the documentation you do already, and add in my bits and create some boards, then anyone can copy and make their own |
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| 08:57.22 | focus | what i want is more like a tricorder for machines - you hold something like a tablet, go to a piece of kit which may be in server room, attach wirelessly or otherwise with plastic optic fiber, and then you be in controlling it |
| 08:57.41 | focus | the reverse of that is the lapdock |
| 08:57.55 | focus | where you bring your machine to the lapdock and connect it up |
| 08:59.19 | focus | the fiber optic is necessary because some types of equipment may be live and should not be touched |
| 08:59.32 | focus | wireless difficult if lot of electrical noise |
| 08:59.51 | focus | the plastic fiber dirt cheap to buy |
| 09:00.27 | focus | the connector can be 3d printed with printers like the formlabs 3d printer |
| 09:00.59 | focus | release everything open source hardware and software - anyone can go make it and supply |
| 09:02.22 | focus | they now do GHz fiber communications diodes - even normal infrared diodes could be persuaded i am told |
| 09:02.45 | focus | look up lifi system (a take on wifi) |
| 09:03.58 | focus | i guess what i want is a tricorder for machines + lapdock in one package |
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| 09:04.31 | mnemoc | i see |
| 09:05.18 | SquirrelCZECH | guys |
| 09:05.24 | SquirrelCZECH | cubieboard a10 |
| 09:05.31 | SquirrelCZECH | uarts 3,4,5,6 |
| 09:05.34 | SquirrelCZECH | are 3.3 ? |
| 09:05.52 | JohnDoe_71Rus | is it real posible boot A20 android from SD card? http://pastebin.com/yBqrNiF0 |
| 09:06.22 | mnemoc | the stock kernel from allwinner for a10 devices is 3.0. 3.3 and 3.4 are only for a20 and a31 |
| 09:06.44 | mnemoc | JohnDoe_71Rus: yes. people has done it |
| 09:07.01 | JohnDoe_71Rus | A20? not A10 |
| 09:07.31 | mnemoc | the only diff is the kernel. not userpsace |
| 09:08.38 | JohnDoe_71Rus | build from this http://docs.cubieboard.org/tutorials/cb2/development/building_your_own_android_image . had no init file, only init.* |
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| 09:09.23 | JohnDoe_71Rus | mnemoc: There is a link on the image for a SD card. Android, not for linux |
| 09:10.21 | FR^2 | moin |
| 09:11.07 | mnemoc | JohnDoe_71Rus: ask android people how 4.2's init is called |
| 09:12.20 | JohnDoe_71Rus | mnemoc: in the nand, init is present |
| 09:14.24 | JohnDoe_71Rus | tried to take the init from nand. without success. |
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| 09:20.52 | FR^2 | I got a bluetooth module that comes with the contacts in 1.5mm intervall at the edges of the board... any hints on how I could connect to those pins in an elegant way? |
| 09:21.31 | FR^2 | Of course, I only need four pins later on (RX/TX/GND/+3.3V), but until then I'd like a neat temporary thing. |
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| 09:27.14 | lixujia | !ls |
| 09:27.45 | lixujia | !ls faq |
| 09:28.24 | SquirrelCZECH | nah :-/ |
| 09:28.53 | lixujia | Why dose All of my cubieboard share 1 mac address? |
| 09:29.08 | buZz | lixujia: because it doesnt have a mac address |
| 09:29.16 | lixujia | Three board has the same mac |
| 09:29.34 | mnemoc | lixujia: you can have it hardcoded in your script.bin |
| 09:29.38 | lixujia | buZz: Can we rewrite it? |
| 09:29.41 | buZz | yes |
| 09:29.56 | buZz | you can follow what mnemoc told you, or change it inside linux |
| 09:30.19 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/EMAC#MAC |
| 09:31.21 | lixujia | Thank you! I'll try |
| 09:31.49 | SquirrelCZECH | guys |
| 09:31.57 | SquirrelCZECH | if I want to turn some pins on cubieboard? |
| 09:32.03 | SquirrelCZECH | *turn on |
| 09:32.22 | SquirrelCZECH | I just need to bin2fix setup.bin in sd card, modify lines and fex2bin it back? |
| 09:32.43 | mnemoc | script.bin |
| 09:33.08 | SquirrelCZECH | or script.bin... |
| 09:33.47 | mnemoc | what do you mean buy turn some pins? |
| 09:34.00 | SquirrelCZECH | turn on uarts 3,4,5,6 |
| 09:34.11 | mnemoc | yes, that's script.bin's job |
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| 09:34.55 | mnemoc | but a usb-to-4-uart might be better |
| 09:35.06 | SquirrelCZECH | why? |
| 09:35.30 | mnemoc | pinmuxing can conflict with other features |
| 09:35.48 | mnemoc | also, it's not clear if the IP actually supports them all at the same time |
| 09:36.01 | SquirrelCZECH | needs two of them... |
| 09:36.18 | mnemoc | try and see what you get :) |
| 09:36.27 | SquirrelCZECH | I can't get it running :-/ |
| 09:36.44 | mnemoc | be sure you aren't making pinmux conflicts |
| 09:36.51 | SquirrelCZECH | pinmux conflicts? |
| 09:37.00 | mnemoc | using the same pin for two features |
| 09:38.44 | lixujia | mnemoc: " adding the value to your script.bin" But my script.bin is a binary file. |
| 09:39.17 | JohnDoe_71Rus | lixujia: use bin2fex |
| 09:39.37 | JohnDoe_71Rus | then fex2bin |
| 09:40.57 | lixujia | It works. thx |
| 09:41.08 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: used original adapter that I got with cubieboard |
| 09:41.11 | SquirrelCZECH | still nothing :-/ |
| 09:43.31 | SquirrelCZECH | naaaah |
| 09:45.14 | mnemoc | http://dx.com/p/z-tek-ze552-usb-2-0-to-4-x-rs232-serial-adapter-cable-black-118302 <--- /me loves this one |
| 09:45.33 | SquirrelCZECH | NAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 09:45.51 | SquirrelCZECH | tried both devices he tried cubieboards uarts with... they work perfectly |
| 09:46.24 | mnemoc | but you will probably need to rs232 them anyway |
| 09:46.39 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: that sucks as hell to be honest |
| 09:46.47 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:47.18 | mnemoc | all serial devices tend to be rs232/db9 |
| 09:47.34 | mnemoc | s/all/most/ |
| 09:49.13 | mnemoc | the extra native uarts are good if you want to connect a GPS IC or similar, but unfortunatelly not for external toys :/ |
| 09:49.37 | SquirrelCZECH | fu :-/ |
| 09:49.47 | SquirrelCZECH | hates extra weight |
| 09:50.00 | SquirrelCZECH | P.S: wanted to build airship, so I take care about weight :-0 |
| 09:50.01 | SquirrelCZECH | :-) |
| 09:50.55 | mnemoc | but what will you connect on those 2 uarts? |
| 09:51.20 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: practically two arduinos |
| 09:51.37 | SquirrelCZECH | one is IMU -> gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetomere |
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| 09:51.50 | SquirrelCZECH | another one controlls the airships servos/motors |
| 09:52.43 | mnemoc | arduinos are 3V3 TTL on 0.1" pins, right? then it should work without troubles |
| 09:53.19 | SquirrelCZECH | exactly |
| 09:53.24 | SquirrelCZECH | doesn't .... |
| 09:53.24 | mnemoc | http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-40PCS-Dupont-Wire-Color-Jumper-Cable-2-00-To-2-54mm-2P-1P-Feale-To-Feale-/300878126075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460dbbdbfb |
| 09:53.36 | mnemoc | dmesg output? |
| 09:53.52 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: just that uarts are attached on /dev/ttySx |
| 09:54.49 | mnemoc | keep uart0 for the serial console and enable another two available on the headers. check the pin map inux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/ExpansionPorts |
| 09:55.02 | mnemoc | and be sure to not screw up anything already allocated :p |
| 09:55.25 | mnemoc | the fex guide in the wiki can help too |
| 10:03.19 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I enabled all 4 available on headers... |
| 10:03.44 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I also didn't wrote new lines to fex |
| 10:03.55 | SquirrelCZECH | there were allready defined all urats and I just turned them on |
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| 10:04.58 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: if open assigned devices in pyhton, there are no erros |
| 10:05.03 | SquirrelCZECH | just no data coming/incoming |
| 10:09.11 | mnemoc | paste the diff you made to the .fex |
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| 10:10.48 | mnemoc | and also the bootlog |
| 10:11.21 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/GW3T5Xwk |
| 10:11.59 | mnemoc | that's not a diff... and you are not enabling any pin |
| 10:12.18 | SquirrelCZECH | it's not diff, I do not have "file" agains I could make a diff |
| 10:12.53 | mnemoc | uart_used = 1 is useless if you don't specify which pins and mux you want to assign |
| 10:12.58 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/pJc6vx11 this is part of that code |
| 10:13.04 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I know, just wrote the lines i changed |
| 10:13.05 | SquirrelCZECH | :-) |
| 10:13.21 | mnemoc | use diff -u, please |
| 10:14.09 | mnemoc | and activate one new uart at the time. greed is harmful when troubleshooting |
| 10:15.28 | SquirrelCZECH | http://pastebin.com/cf0qY5dQ |
| 10:15.59 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 10:16.14 | SquirrelCZECH | and now when I tried to open uart3 with python it blocked.. |
| 10:16.20 | SquirrelCZECH | I can't even connect to cubieboard :-/ |
| 10:18.35 | mnemoc | connect TO cubieboard? |
| 10:18.45 | mnemoc | those uarts are to connect FROM cubieboard |
| 10:19.44 | SquirrelCZECH | TO cubieboard I mean ethernet + ssh |
| 10:20.18 | SquirrelCZECH | I can't reach it after I tried to open uart3 |
| 10:20.41 | SquirrelCZECH | (connected to cubieboard via ssh, opened python, opening uart3, than I lost connection) |
| 10:22.33 | mnemoc | connect to the CB using uart0, so you can see and record the bootlog |
| 10:23.13 | mnemoc | also, I don't see PH available at http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/ExpansionPorts |
| 10:23.35 | mnemoc | only PH14 and PH15 |
| 10:23.45 | SquirrelCZECH | true |
| 10:24.32 | mnemoc | PI10/11 can be uart5, and PI12/13 uart6 |
| 10:24.42 | mnemoc | 2-pin uart, not type 4 |
| 10:24.47 | SquirrelCZECH | I see |
| 10:24.50 | SquirrelCZECH | so here is problem :-) |
| 10:25.31 | mnemoc | uart3 at PG6-9 can be type 4 |
| 10:26.25 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: thanks a lot |
| 10:27.14 | mnemoc | makes more sense now? |
| 10:28.04 | SquirrelCZECH | yep |
| 10:28.20 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I just thought that I should avoid modifing anything except of on/off |
| 10:28.52 | mnemoc | pinmuxing is the most imporant role of the script.bin and myboard.dtb |
| 10:29.10 | mnemoc | the used/not-used is only to enable the driver |
| 10:29.35 | mnemoc | but without the right pinmuxing you are just reading/writting an internal buffer |
| 10:33.44 | SquirrelCZECH | seems legit |
| 10:36.12 | mnemoc | working now? |
| 10:36.21 | SquirrelCZECH | nope |
| 10:36.24 | mnemoc | :/ |
| 10:36.30 | SquirrelCZECH | didn't tested yet |
| 10:36.37 | SquirrelCZECH | restarted arduno and can't connect via ssh |
| 10:39.26 | SquirrelCZECH | something went bad |
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| 10:55.53 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: YOU |
| 10:55.57 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: ARE |
| 10:56.00 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: AWESOME |
| 10:56.05 | SquirrelCZECH | because it .... WORKS! :D |
| 10:57.02 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 10:57.04 | mnemoc | yw |
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| 10:57.14 | mnemoc | now make it fly |
| 11:00.49 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: last time it didn't worked exactly as I wanted |
| 11:01.57 | SquirrelCZECH | wow |
| 11:02.16 | SquirrelCZECH | just can watch ho gyro sends data to cubie... |
| 11:02.19 | SquirrelCZECH | wow |
| 11:02.43 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7C9CwE7_HY |
| 11:05.04 | mnemoc | that thing is huge |
| 11:06.04 | jelly | that's what she said |
| 11:06.12 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 11:06.40 | jelly | shame it did not get up that time |
| 11:07.01 | mnemoc | exactly what I was thinking |
| 11:09.05 | SquirrelCZECH | one propeller fall down |
| 11:09.11 | SquirrelCZECH | but it was first test |
| 11:10.15 | SquirrelCZECH | next time, there will be cubieboard |
| 11:10.19 | SquirrelCZECH | with gyroscope |
| 11:10.23 | SquirrelCZECH | so it should avoid doing this |
| 11:23.47 | SquirrelCZECH | ONE thing! |
| 11:24.02 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: is it OK to put 5V "uart' to 3.3V "uart"? |
| 11:24.10 | SquirrelCZECH | somebody says that it's ok, somebody that it is not... |
| 11:26.09 | mnemoc | SquirrelCZECH: well... you will fry it. but nothing worse than that will happen |
| 11:26.18 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 11:26.23 | Bushmills | generally, integrated devices hate it when a voltage on any of their input pins exceeds their Vcc |
| 11:26.27 | mnemoc | Tx/Rx/Gnd. never VCC |
| 11:26.28 | SquirrelCZECH | logic level converter, where are you? :-) |
| 11:27.18 | mnemoc | if you only plug Tx/Rx/Gnd the IC will work even if the board is 5V |
| 11:27.18 | SquirrelCZECH | ok |
| 11:27.20 | SquirrelCZECH | naaaaah |
| 11:27.36 | SquirrelCZECH | 3.3v is on the other side on different header... |
| 11:27.40 | mnemoc | if you plug the vcc, tell good bye to your CB |
| 11:27.46 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: hmm, ok |
| 11:28.00 | mnemoc | Tx/Rx/Gnd. ignore the 4th pin |
| 11:28.28 | SquirrelCZECH | have to wait until I buy 40 pins headers anyway |
| 11:30.09 | mnemoc | saw the wire jumpers I pasted before? |
| 11:30.35 | SquirrelCZECH | ? |
| 11:30.52 | mnemoc | http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-40PCS-Dupont-Wire-Color-Jumper-Cable-2-00-To-2-54mm-2P-1P-Feale-To-Feale-/300878126075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460dbbdbfb |
| 11:31.04 | mnemoc | 2mm <-> 0.1" |
| 11:31.16 | mnemoc | much more flexible than headers |
| 11:31.36 | SquirrelCZECH | just wanted this :-/ http://gme.cz/img/cache/800x600/832/109/dutinkova-lista-xinya-bl8280gd-obrazek-1.jpg |
| 11:32.06 | mnemoc | so you will make an extension board? |
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| 11:32.19 | mnemoc | what happened to the weight hate? |
| 11:32.56 | mnemoc | 4 wire jumpers and some silicon to glue them, and solved |
| 11:33.12 | mnemoc | lighter than the header alone |
| 11:34.03 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: worried about gluing something... |
| 11:34.21 | SquirrelCZECH | with header I can just make end colorfull and it's easy to put them in the right place |
| 11:34.33 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:34.52 | mnemoc | those wire jumpers are pretty tight anyway |
| 11:34.57 | mnemoc | but ok |
| 11:35.12 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: yes, but it's not so easy to disconnect them and connect back |
| 11:35.20 | SquirrelCZECH | which can happen frequently |
| 11:35.56 | mnemoc | what about been able to do it programaticly with a relay? |
| 11:36.06 | mnemoc | + gpio |
| 11:36.28 | mnemoc | or you mean to play yourself directly? |
| 11:37.07 | mnemoc | been able to "power cycle" stuff from software is pretty useful |
| 11:37.48 | SquirrelCZECH | mnemoc: I mean like disconnect everything and take out the cubieboard out of the machine :-) |
| 11:38.14 | mnemoc | buy a second CB :p |
| 11:38.20 | SquirrelCZECH | ... :D |
| 11:38.44 | mnemoc | and leave your pilot where it belongs |
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| 12:03.07 | wolfy | what would be a good cross-compile toolset to use in order to compile stuff for cubie2? |
| 12:05.34 | mnemoc | depends on what you use as host |
| 12:06.21 | wolfy | centos 6. but I could install anything in a VM |
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| 12:15.49 | mnemoc | wolfy: try http://sourcery.mentor.com/public/gnu_toolchain/ |
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| 12:35.33 | wolfy | lol. first time I download something else than questa :) |
| 12:35.35 | wolfy | thanks |
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| 16:01.15 | B3RN0UT | hi, mby someone could help me here... how can i check if cubian "sees" the wifi dongle? |
| 16:03.18 | FR^2 | usb? "lsusb" |
| 16:03.25 | FR^2 | lsusb -vvvv ;) |
| 16:05.09 | B3RN0UT | hmm ok "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]" it seems correct |
| 16:06.28 | B3RN0UT | could you be so kind and tell me how i have to configure the wifi? |
| 16:06.43 | SquirrelCZECH | guys |
| 16:06.53 | SquirrelCZECH | U suppose tI can't powerup "standart" hdd with cubie? |
| 16:07.11 | SquirrelCZECH | B3RN0UT: 1. thing |
| 16:07.13 | SquirrelCZECH | check dmesg |
| 16:07.21 | SquirrelCZECH | 2. thing, pick yourself some wifi manager |
| 16:15.14 | FR^2 | B3RN0UT: Not by heart. I assume "wpa_supplicant" is involved ;) |
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| 17:05.45 | froy | SquirrelCZECH, http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/HDD |
| 17:06.11 | SquirrelCZECH | froy: thanks |
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| 18:34.39 | vbmithr | Hi |
| 18:34.56 | vbmithr | Do anybody knows what udev rule to write to change permissions on the leds for the cubieboard1 ? |
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| 20:39.42 | popolon | vbmithr, you probably first need to know their driver or device id ? |
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| 23:09.10 | kenny | Does any of the sierraware stuff currently work on the CB2? I'd like to setup a secure world to hold crypto keys. |
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