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| 08:22.05 | focus | popolon: its good to hear the upgrade went ok. I upgraded linaro-ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 and found the gnome session "fallback" had been replaced with gnome "flashback" - and i could not login. The linaro, lxde and xubuntu i could log back in - but no actual working ubuntu unity or ubuntu "flashback" sessions. |
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| 11:11.03 | wolfy | anyone using cb-a20-lubuntu-desktop-card-v105.img around ? |
| 11:26.17 | Wessix | wolfy think i do |
| 11:26.57 | wolfy | on my system I get only 2 tuxes displayed and boot freezes. any hint on what could be wrong ? |
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| 11:27.30 | Wessix | oh i'm not an expert, myne is starting, are you sure you took the sdcard version? |
| 11:28.10 | wolfy | that's what the "card" in the name stands for, doesn't it ? |
| 11:28.32 | Wessix | yeah |
| 11:28.41 | wolfy | so yes, I am sure |
| 11:28.44 | Wessix | i use a samsung micro sd |
| 11:28.53 | Wessix | did you check checksums? |
| 11:28.58 | wolfy | yes, I did |
| 11:29.03 | Wessix | maybe your download got corrupted |
| 11:29.06 | Wessix | ok |
| 11:29.07 | Wessix | mmm |
| 11:29.14 | Wessix | enough power supply |
| 11:29.15 | Wessix | ? |
| 11:29.44 | Wessix | i had the cubieboard2 powered by a weak power source and it made issues |
| 11:29.48 | JohnDoe_71Rus | try boot cb2 android from flash http://pastebin.com/tN227VEy why Failed to execute /dev/mmcblk0p3/init. Attempting defaults... |
| 11:29.56 | wolfy | the only 2 things I am not sure about are the sdcard ( it's a kingston which worked perfectly in a phone ) and the power supply ( it provides only 1.2 A) |
| 11:30.10 | Wessix | can you plug it to apc |
| 11:30.20 | Wessix | use the usb of a pc |
| 11:30.25 | Wessix | just for testing |
| 11:30.38 | Wessix | normally that should server enough power |
| 11:32.22 | Wessix | ok have to leave wish you luck! |
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| 14:50.51 | FR^2 | What kind of rechargeable battery pack could be used to power a cubieboard for some hours? ^^ |
| 14:56.29 | FR^2 | Hmm. A simple usb battery pack could be enough. 5V, 2A... Should suffice, I think. |
| 14:57.28 | ttmrichter | FR^2: I actually have powered mine off of a "power bank" for smartphones, so yes, as long as you can get the amperage on the output. |
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| 15:03.47 | FR^2 | ttmrichter: Might be a bit of an issue, I'm running an sata ssd with my cubieboard. And I have no idea what power consumption such a thing as (as peak or on avarage...) |
| 15:04.07 | ttmrichter | Read the spec sheet for it? :) |
| 15:05.18 | FR^2 | Hmm. What's that? "Read"? And what's a "spec sheet"? ;) Good idea. I'll look for some :) |
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| 15:06.47 | mnemoc | the CT comes with a LiPo connector :) |
| 15:15.37 | FR^2 | Lithium polymer? |
| 15:16.33 | mnemoc | yes, charged by the same PMU that controls the A20 |
| 15:16.45 | mnemoc | so it's a built-in ups |
| 15:19.40 | mnemoc | olimex did this since their first A13 board, but cubietech only added it in the CT (aka CB3) |
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| 15:30.50 | FR^2 | mnemoc: Ah, okay, but the cb2 doesn't have this option, does it? |
| 15:30.56 | mnemoc | right |
| 15:31.03 | mnemoc | cb2 == cb1 + A20 |
| 15:31.24 | mnemoc | cb3/ct is a new board, using all the power of the A20 |
| 15:31.33 | FR^2 | hmm :) |
| 15:31.46 | mnemoc | like 2GB of ram and Gb ethernet |
| 15:31.54 | mnemoc | also 12V for 3.5" drives |
| 15:32.52 | FR^2 | Yes, a few weeks ago I thought about purchasing the ct, but then again... hey, I have my cb2 running, but I'm not yet really using it :/ |
| 15:33.21 | FR^2 | I'm still waiting for a way to attach it to that "motorola atrix laptop dock", but delivery of those adapters and cables takes quite some time |
| 15:34.17 | mnemoc | I was begging for http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Alejandro_Mery/Lapdock ... but no interest :\ |
| 15:35.57 | focus | mnemoc: i interest |
| 15:36.03 | focus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.28 | FR^2 | Yes, very interesting concept. And with the hugh raspberry-pi-and-others community it might be interesting indeed |
| 15:36.44 | FR^2 | Ah, btw: Power consumption of the sata ssd: 0.12Watts |
| 15:37.17 | FR^2 | Am I calculating this wrong or is this nearly neglible? |
| 15:37.32 | mnemoc | main problem is to get someone living in china willing to invest and manufacture it.... maybe doing a prototype and then indiegogo it |
| 15:37.57 | mnemoc | that page is only a project proposal written from a user (me) perspective |
| 15:40.13 | focus | mnemoc: my thoughts were putting a cubieboard type board + lcd screen. Would have to develop a usb driver that blitzes data to cpu board through a USB link which then updates LCD. The cubieboard can have a sata which with software also becomes available as a USB drive. |
| 15:40.42 | mnemoc | feedback to make it more attractive to potential manufactures is highly welcomed |
| 15:40.56 | mnemoc | focus: my point was to do it device agnostic |
| 15:41.10 | focus | confused |
| 15:41.36 | mnemoc | the board/dongle living outside the lapdock |
| 15:42.34 | mnemoc | and using standard interfaces to connect both (hdmi, usb), and a VESA mount where to screw a 3d printed or similar docking for your favourite toy |
| 15:42.52 | focus | mnemoc: the stick lives outside the lapdock - but connects with 2 x USB to the lapdock |
| 15:43.07 | focus | one USB gets video, another gets you hd |
| 15:43.31 | mnemoc | hdmi on dongles is pretty standard, and doesn't burn your usb bw |
| 15:43.56 | focus | hdmi to lcd - expensive i believe |
| 15:44.15 | mnemoc | search for ANX7808 |
| 15:44.21 | mnemoc | that's hdmi to eDP |
| 15:44.57 | focus | so get rid of hdmi - have a screen attaching through USB with a driver |
| 15:45.32 | mnemoc | usb is cpu driven, you won't get 1080p from a normal devboard/dongle via usb |
| 15:45.57 | focus | price of lcd $15, price of cubie $45 - suddenly lapdock |
| 15:46.02 | mnemoc | specially if you also use usb for storage |
| 15:46.09 | mnemoc | sure |
| 15:46.33 | focus | i'm thinking of cheapie heepeee lapdock |
| 15:47.05 | mnemoc | i'm thinking in a CE product for geeks with hdmi dongles and devboards |
| 15:47.55 | focus | my thought on that is someone ought to make netbooks again with A20 and 2GB RAM and a decent LCD |
| 15:48.21 | focus | otherwise the lapdock price and netbook price would be too close to each other |
| 15:48.44 | focus | i have 2 cubietrucks on order to try that option out |
| 15:48.51 | mnemoc | but the lapdock has a good display and it's reusable while the netbook displays are a bad joke |
| 15:48.53 | focus | lcd on order as well |
| 15:49.46 | mnemoc | both panels listed there 11.6 and 13.3 are 1080p and pretty cheap |
| 15:49.47 | focus | netbook - can have hdmi which negates its screen problems - just buy cheap with low res lcd and attach it to home tv through hdmi |
| 15:50.41 | focus | the 13" panels are about $75 |
| 15:50.51 | mnemoc | we have different goals. for me a low res lcd is useless. i want portable good res |
| 15:51.04 | focus | tv + hdmi is $75 |
| 15:51.05 | mnemoc | focus: search for those panels on taobao |
| 15:51.13 | mnemoc | tv is not portable |
| 15:51.26 | focus | hmm... |
| 15:51.49 | focus | you want high res video and interchangeable CPU boards |
| 15:52.20 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:52.49 | mnemoc | and battery, and decent chassis |
| 15:53.21 | mnemoc | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.x5kBiQ&id=26074248354 300 yuan |
| 15:53.21 | focus | the formlabs 3D printers are shipping - they can do you decent cases |
| 15:54.12 | mnemoc | i'm just a user who wrote a product proposal for anyone wanting to invest on it and sell me one |
| 15:54.36 | focus | that screen good price |
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| 15:55.37 | mnemoc | the 11.6 variant is sightly more expensive |
| 15:56.02 | mnemoc | but when buying in >1 qty things probably get better |
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| 15:57.50 | focus | still a bit hard because cost of lcd + chippery + battery about same as similar quality netbook - if you put in default CPU like an A20 for about $30, then more value. |
| 15:58.18 | focus | then you got additional worries over connecting up io pins |
| 15:58.41 | mnemoc | that's why the board lives outside, behind the display, on a vesa mount |
| 15:58.55 | mnemoc | it also make it reusable for all your toys |
| 15:59.17 | mnemoc | present and future |
| 15:59.37 | mnemoc | so even if it's more expensive than a netbook, it's a long term investment |
| 16:00.11 | focus | so if i make a lapdock and it needs to connect to an eoma and cubieboard - how will that work (pardon my ignorance) |
| 16:00.29 | mnemoc | one at the time ;-) |
| 16:00.34 | focus | sure :D |
| 16:00.48 | focus | which connectors go where |
| 16:01.30 | mnemoc | hdmi -> hdmi; otg -> usb device; dc -> usb host charger |
| 16:01.49 | mnemoc | optionally sata -> esata |
| 16:02.12 | focus | no ethernet without pcmcia mboard |
| 16:02.31 | mnemoc | ethernet from the board or usb dongle |
| 16:03.11 | focus | ok - but the one usb otg can function to power up eoma and link to usb hub? |
| 16:03.22 | mnemoc | eoma has a mini engineering board that provides ethernet. all the other ethernet capable boards come with the rj45 |
| 16:03.35 | focus | ok |
| 16:04.05 | focus | will the otg connector connect to a usb hub on the lapdock and expand the number of usb ports |
| 16:04.08 | mnemoc | lapdock = display + keybard + touchpad + battery + usb hub + usb charger |
| 16:04.22 | mnemoc | yes |
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| 16:05.03 | mnemoc | the components of that lapdock are available from an internal usb hub |
| 16:05.06 | focus | in that case ethernet keyboard and mouse can come in through usb |
| 16:05.13 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:05.29 | focus | that would make it worthwhile :) |
| 16:05.35 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:05.42 | mnemoc | re-read the page now ;-) |
| 16:06.01 | focus | camera? usb again? |
| 16:06.20 | focus | touchscreen - usb again? |
| 16:06.22 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:06.39 | mnemoc | but powered usb hub |
| 16:06.45 | focus | audio + mic - usb again? |
| 16:06.53 | mnemoc | audio comes in hdmi |
| 16:06.58 | focus | mic? |
| 16:07.01 | mnemoc | usb |
| 16:07.31 | focus | so how many powered usb approx gets internally made |
| 16:07.41 | focus | and will they all work at the same time? |
| 16:07.45 | mnemoc | see the list in the wiki page |
| 16:07.53 | mnemoc | yes, they should |
| 16:08.02 | focus | 14 ports - 2 x 7 powered hubs |
| 16:09.02 | focus | mnemoc: in that case it looks easy to do if all 14 ports can be made to work without too many problems |
| 16:09.26 | focus | i would make it 4 x 4 ports - avoid one port destroying others |
| 16:09.50 | mnemoc | that's why I need EE feedback to improve the proposal ;-) |
| 16:10.04 | mnemoc | re-read it (completely) first |
| 16:10.05 | focus | coming right up :D |
| 16:10.09 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:10.44 | focus | mnemoc: ping you later |
| 16:10.49 | mnemoc | thanks :) |
| 16:13.04 | FR^2 | when running linaro booted from a sata drive, how do I access the microSD card? |
| 16:16.25 | wolfy | FR^2: I am going to guess and say that you should see it as /dev/sdX |
| 16:16.39 | FR^2 | Hmm. |
| 16:16.52 | FR^2 | I have /dev/sda and its partitions, but nothing else. |
| 16:17.04 | FR^2 | any module I should load for that? ^^ |
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| 16:18.38 | FR^2 | ushc is the module, so it seems |
| 16:19.08 | FR^2 | [1015273.305159] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 |
| 16:19.19 | FR^2 | but no /dev/sdb visible yet |
| 16:24.25 | FR^2 | Any hints? |
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| 16:26.42 | rodolfobc | anyone managed to use g_ether module in cb2?? |
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| 17:03.23 | n01 | rodolfobc: try to ask in #linux-sunxi |
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| 23:33.54 | l_r | hello |
| 23:34.05 | l_r | does cubieboard support camera sensors? |
| 23:34.23 | l_r | i mean, i there any driver for at least one sensor? |
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