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| 07:22.54 | cbsrobot_ | hello, I cannot find /dev/cedar_dev on my Linux cubieez 3.4.43-20130531.1334-v-rm1+, do I need to add a module ? |
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| 07:28.18 | taruti | Any guesses what could make gcc crash in random places on cubieboard? Memtester claims that ram is ok, but gcc keeps crashing every 1/20 of files when compiling the kernel with cubian. |
| 07:29.58 | rm | cbsrobot_, try "modprobe sun4i_cedar_mod" |
| 07:31.45 | cbsrobot_ | rm: works thanks |
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| 08:31.36 | suhanc | re |
| 08:34.36 | FR^2 | moin |
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| 08:59.01 | FR^2 | Any significant news concerning cubieboard2 since three weeks ago? ^^ |
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| 09:03.25 | Amnience | !ls |
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| 09:36.08 | dongs | fat chance, but does anyone have A20_PAD_STD_V1_0.DSN in some less idiotic format? |
| 09:36.15 | dongs | i don't have pads and nothing i have will import that shit. |
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| 09:39.38 | dongs | rm: hipboi < talkin to you |
| 09:39.59 | hipboi | dongs, thanks |
| 09:40.22 | rm | sorry what? |
| 09:40.32 | hipboi | where is A20_PAD_STD_V1_0.DSN |
| 09:40.42 | hipboi | i can open it and transfer to pdf |
| 09:41.06 | hipboi | rm, i don't know what is going on too |
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| 09:47.58 | dongs | hipboi: i wanted to convert it to something else, or maybe export in PADS ASCII |
| 09:48.02 | dongs | if you have pads, could you do that? |
| 09:48.20 | hipboi | let me see if i can... |
| 09:48.29 | dongs | it should be .asc or something for ascii export. |
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| 09:55.42 | dongs | is it failing? |
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| 12:14.38 | dongs | hipboi: any luck |
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| 12:16.01 | hipboi | dongs, where is the A20_PAD_STD_V1_0.DSN |
| 12:16.19 | dongs | i can send you or its on a20 sdk cd |
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| 12:17.38 | dongs | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6obTnNhsMxJTnQyRUotOXZsVGc/edit?usp=sharing |
| 12:18.44 | hipboi | downloading |
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| 12:21.38 | dongs | i heard its either orcad 16.5 or pads and i have neither |
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| 13:03.32 | hipboi | dongs, i have orcad but it's lite version |
| 13:03.45 | hipboi | i can open it |
| 13:04.24 | dongs | ugh |
| 13:04.30 | dongs | oh |
| 13:04.32 | dongs | can open? |
| 13:04.39 | dongs | can it export to something? i have no idea what orcad lite is |
| 13:04.46 | hipboi | yes, but there is a warning |
| 13:04.55 | dongs | lite = demo or seomthin? |
| 13:04.56 | hipboi | export to what |
| 13:04.59 | hipboi | yes |
| 13:05.02 | hipboi | what do you want |
| 13:05.09 | dongs | can it export to older orcad? |
| 13:05.17 | dongs | or some ascii shit |
| 13:05.21 | hipboi | let me see |
| 13:05.22 | dongs | lemme see waht altium can import.. |
| 13:05.37 | hipboi | altium designer? |
| 13:05.42 | dongs | ya |
| 13:07.04 | hipboi | shit, Lite Edition is limited to 60 or less components |
| 13:07.12 | dongs | haha. |
| 13:07.13 | hipboi | i can't save as... |
| 13:07.14 | dongs | ugh. |
| 13:07.15 | dongs | right |
| 13:08.05 | dongs | mkay. |
| 13:08.11 | dongs | i gotta wait for my u..s pal to wake up then. |
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| 13:27.14 | dongs | thanks for trying. |
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| 14:58.16 | Phibs | lol the rasp pi is a piece of shit |
| 15:02.01 | Juerd | A shitty piece it may be, but it's easier to use for unskilled users :) |
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| 15:06.28 | deasy | they are just different products for different target |
| 15:08.15 | Juerd | They are (or could be) direct competitors nontheless. |
| 15:08.24 | Juerd | s/non/none/ |
| 15:08.31 | Juerd | infobot: I hate you. |
| 15:08.31 | infobot | You hate you.? |
| 15:08.45 | Juerd | Just die, okay? :) |
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| 15:12.40 | FR^2 | raspberry pi is very... erm... "low-end", but it has good marketing and timing and a huge community. |
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| 15:17.40 | Juerd | FR^2: Indeed. |
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| 15:19.51 | FR^2 | And "low-end" is more or less politely spoken ;) |
| 15:20.14 | Juerd | The erm and the quotes made that obvious :) |
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| 15:20.58 | dongs | < FR^2> raspberry pi is very... erm... "low-end", but it has good marketing and timing and a huge community. |
| 15:21.07 | dongs | not sure i really give a shit about a "huge community" of morons. |
| 15:21.23 | dongs | tho if you want instant cash on dickstarter, all you need to do is make something "raspberrypi compatible" |
| 15:22.10 | FR^2 | Juerd: Well, I just remembered the soldering of the usb things... one usb port, a three-port usb hub, one port with an usb-to-ethernet adapter... a bottleneck you discover very late ;) |
| 15:23.08 | FR^2 | And I consider myself to be more or less such a moron ;) I haven't done much with my cubieboard2, yet, as I still don't understand much about its boot process, graphics chip etc. etc. |
| 15:23.51 | Juerd | I've used several pi's, but couldn't get the cubie to work. Haven't touched it in half a year so perhaps there are working images with networking now :) |
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| 15:24.48 | Juerd | Someone else in our hackerspace has one working, but it didn't come with a generous amount of kernel modules precompiled. |
| 15:25.33 | Juerd | It's just not (yet) something that I can get up and running in a few minutes. |
| 15:25.38 | FR^2 | I didn't succeed in getting my own kernel to run yet. :) |
| 15:25.49 | FR^2 | But I was on holiday for the last three weeks. |
| 15:25.50 | Juerd | You shouldn't need to, imo :) |
| 15:26.23 | Juerd | I've been using Linux since 1998. I've compiled my share of kernels, but I think I haven't done so the past 8 or so years :) |
| 15:28.49 | FR^2 | Hmm. Yes, well, with images for such "distinct" (in contrast to x86_64 PCs with their huge variety) it shouldn't, but then again there's always some module missing in the kernels and module sets that come precompiled by someone else... |
| 15:29.02 | FR^2 | distinct hardware |
| 15:34.14 | Juerd | And there's a difference with the Pi community: they tend to build kernels with as many modules as possible. |
| 15:34.22 | Juerd | Not terribly efficient, but definitely user friendly. |
| 15:37.13 | rm | ...what |
| 15:37.17 | rm | ah |
| 15:37.25 | rm | I misread as "not user-friendly" |
| 15:37.34 | Juerd | How? |
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| 15:39.45 | rm | how does one misread; by trying to skim the text too quickly and not paying enough attention to the whole phrase? |
| 15:39.52 | rm | or what "how"? |
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| 15:44.04 | rm | on the actual topic, I don't know where the disease to ship kernels with nothing compiled comes from |
| 15:44.35 | rm | but I hope it is not the distinctive characteristic of the sunxi or CB community |
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| 15:44.52 | rm | there are some actual usable images and kernels |
| 15:45.02 | rm | mine, for example :) http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/kernel |
| 15:46.08 | FR^2 | <-- a20 |
| 15:48.14 | ssvb | mnemoc: ^ |
| 15:48.42 | ssvb | rm says that you hwpacks suck :) |
| 15:49.05 | aalm | monolithic kernels ftw. |
| 15:49.12 | aalm | me luvs OpenBSD |
| 15:50.05 | ssvb | rm: do you have a git repository with better default configs, which can be easily pulled into stage/sunxi-3.4? |
| 16:09.12 | arete74_ | 6 |
| 16:10.34 | atsampson | ssvb: the thought occurred the other day that it'd be nice to have "generic A10 Android" and "generic A10 Linux desktop" configs; the first'd be liked zatab_defconfig but with all the plausible drivers as modules |
| 16:10.49 | atsampson | (and the second'd be like sun4i_crane_defconfig...) |
| 16:10.51 | rm | hwpacks are okay per se, where else would one get a script.bin and u-boot |
| 16:11.21 | atsampson | ssvb: hansg's Fedora kernel config (in his repo) is pretty good as a generic kernel |
| 16:11.33 | rm | (ok, script.bin is fetchable from NAND) |
| 16:12.14 | rm | I don't have any git repositories, but my .configs are all public and even placed as separate files, not only in deb archive |
| 16:12.40 | rm | afaik hramrach tried to submit some patches to defconfigs |
| 16:12.47 | rm | I did not follow closely |
| 16:13.54 | ssvb | rm: yes, hramrach tried, but it got stalled by bikeshedding because nobody knows what the users may possibly need |
| 16:15.16 | ssvb | rm: you could possibly submit your defconfigs with a much better success, because they are being used by real people |
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| 16:27.39 | cbsrobot_ | Am I right to suppose using the cedarfb with vlc won't show the videooutput on x11vnc? |
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| 17:37.51 | pirea | hy |
| 17:38.10 | pirea | xbmc + libvdpau-sunxi is working? |
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| 19:18.12 | prp-e | Hi guys. Can I implement OpenRISC architecture on cubieboard ?! |
| 19:24.29 | prp-e | Hi guys. Can I implement OpenRISC architecture on cubieboard ?! |
| 19:24.31 | vectory | qemu runs openrisc, so if cubieez or sth can run qemu |
| 19:24.40 | vectory | no need to repost |
| 19:24.50 | prp-e | vectory, I wanna use cubie as FPGA |
| 19:26.08 | jelly-home | blinks |
| 19:26.37 | vectory | i dont think any cubieboard has a fpga |
| 19:26.47 | jelly-home | prp-e: the core of a cubieboard is a ready-made, finished SoC. |
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| 19:27.13 | vectory | you can put one on a daughterboard or get a arm/fpga soc based devboard, like the parallella |
| 19:27.31 | jelly-home | prp-e: do you want to emulate something, or add extra fpga hardware, or what? |
| 19:27.47 | prp-e | jelly-home, I need a physical FPGA. |
| 19:28.01 | vectory | well that has not much to do with a cubieboard, does it? |
| 19:28.22 | prp-e | vectory, I think! |
| 19:28.37 | jelly-home | prp-e: ok, and the A20 or A10 on a cubieboard is not one. |
| 19:29.32 | prp-e | :( |
| 19:29.54 | prp-e | What I need for a FPGA?! |
| 19:30.14 | jelly-home | you want a fpga, buy a fpga |
| 19:30.56 | prp-e | jelly-home,Yes, I know. but I don't know can I add FPGA to cubie or I need buy a complete FPGA board |
| 19:31.16 | vectory | how does an arm cortex a9 with two ~900mhz cores compare to the 2 a7 at 900mhz in the a20? |
| 19:31.41 | jelly-home | prp-e: you can add whatever you want to the gpio available, but you still have to acquire that extra hw somehow |
| 19:32.15 | prp-e | jelly-home, Is it a FPGA?! http://eshop.fpgagroup.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=55 |
| 19:32.22 | vectory | and fpga are rarely solder friendly |
| 19:33.38 | vectory | prp-e: here's an fpga http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/fpgas/7276018/ |
| 19:34.10 | vectory | prp-e: what you linked is ages old |
| 19:34.39 | jelly-home | prp-e: it's a very small programmable chip, I don't think that counts as fpga |
| 19:34.39 | prp-e | vectory, nope, I just found it today, and FPGA or similar things are new in Iran |
| 19:35.40 | vectory | it uses field gate arrays, i guess |
| 19:36.14 | jelly-home | "High–density PLDs ranging from 600 to 10,000 usable gates" ... can't remember how much a 6502 had |
| 19:36.15 | vectory | *gate array fields(?) |
| 19:36.21 | prp-e | an FPGA board is expensive in Iran. |
| 19:36.53 | vectory | is 100$ a lot? |
| 19:37.34 | prp-e | vectory, With Iran's tax, It turned to $450 :) |
| 19:38.20 | vectory | do you have a smart phone? |
| 19:38.52 | vectory | like samsung galaxy? thats basically an arm board, and some are hackable |
| 19:39.20 | prp-e | vectory, I have a samsung phone, but I need it :D . also I have 2 iPod touches. |
| 19:40.15 | vectory | hack away then :D |
| 19:40.34 | prp-e | vectory, I don't want to be a phoneless person :D |
| 19:40.42 | Hukka | Not sure if serious... |
| 19:40.54 | prp-e | Hukka, ? |
| 19:41.37 | Hukka | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/1t0m/ |
| 19:41.40 | vectory | http://image2.sina.com.cn/IT/other/2003-02-10/1_2-1-14-502_2003021095323.jpg :) |
| 19:42.38 | prp-e | I found another FPGA board. |
| 19:42.43 | prp-e | http://roboeq.ir/#/products/detail/%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AF%20%20%D9%BE%D8%B1%D9%88%DA%98%D9%87%20FPGA/ |
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| 22:51.46 | aep | what kind of GPU does the A20 have and is there a GL2 driver? |
| 22:54.53 | ssvb | aep: Mali400 MP2, with OpenGL ES 2.0 support |
| 22:55.15 | aep | where do i get drivers for linux from? |
| 22:55.43 | ssvb | http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers |
| 22:55.52 | aep | thanks |
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