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| 10:54.40 | wooy | Hey, anyone here build/bought small ups for cubie? |
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| 10:58.09 | rm | just get any normal UPS |
| 10:58.20 | rm | will keep it up for hours |
| 10:58.26 | rm | if not days |
| 11:07.59 | wooy | rm, seems like best option so far. Found something remotely similar to what I would imagine, but the cost is not really justifiable http://www.amazon.com/Anker-10000mAh-Multi-Voltage-Camcoders-Recorders/dp/B005NGKR54 |
| 11:09.36 | rm | there are a lot of external battery packs like that one: http://dx.com/c/iphone-ipad-ipod-299/batteries-220/portable-external-batteries-226 |
| 11:10.20 | rm | but if you're going to use these as an UPS (i.e. connected into AC and into the Cubie all the time), I am not sure they will be smart enough to not charge the battery all the time (and wear it out quickly) |
| 11:42.22 | Gumboot | You might get some life out of a modern supercap, no? |
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| 12:27.55 | buZz | most of those devices also dont charge while delivering power |
| 12:28.01 | buZz | which is annoying |
| 12:30.24 | Gumboot | How about the PMU on-board cubieboard? Chances are it was designed for tablets, so concurrent power+charge should be one of its operating modes. |
| 12:30.37 | Gumboot | Then it would just be a question of getting the wires out. |
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| 12:45.49 | dongs | hm |
| 12:45.53 | dongs | i had some question but forgot what it was. |
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| 13:55.15 | royger | hi |
| 13:55.58 | royger | I have a probably very stupid question, but is there any image for the cubieboard2 that can be used form the SD card? |
| 13:56.29 | \\Mr_C\\ | same images as the cubieboard1 |
| 13:56.35 | \\Mr_C\\ | everything is the same only dual core |
| 13:56.46 | royger | but doesn't it need a kernel with A20 support? |
| 13:57.57 | \\Mr_C\\ | that i dont know, from what ive read and others talking about everything works the same |
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| 13:59.06 | \\Mr_C\\ | http://cubieboard.org/download/ |
| 13:59.16 | \\Mr_C\\ | there are two at the bottom that specificaly say 2 |
| 13:59.27 | \\Mr_C\\ | Cubieboard2(A20): |
| 13:59.27 | \\Mr_C\\ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.27 | \\Mr_C\\ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.58 | Bushmills | chances are that A10 kernel is without SMP support - not needed for single core. A20 is with SMP, to support multi core |
| 14:00.20 | Bushmills | compare the configs in /boot, that should tell |
| 14:00.49 | royger | \\Mr_C\\: yes, but these are for NAND only (see: http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images) |
| 14:00.53 | Bushmills | that's probably the single one change making most sense for either board |
| 14:01.29 | royger | also, I'm quite new to this ARM world, but what's the difference between NAND/SD images? |
| 14:02.10 | bfree | yes those are for nand. http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard2_wheezy_image is for sd. I don't think a cubie1 kernel will work on cubie2, but gimme and minute and I'll try and check one to be sure to be sure ;) |
| 14:02.12 | royger | I'm currently downloading http://dl.cubieboard.org/software/ubuntu/cb-sdcard-1.1-linaro-quantal-alip-20130227-290.img.tgz and will try to boot from that |
| 14:02.25 | Bushmills | i'd say it will. |
| 14:02.37 | Bushmills | just no advantage of A20 over A10 |
| 14:03.24 | royger | bfree: thanks, I wasn't able to find this pages, will try one of those |
| 14:03.28 | \\Mr_C\\ | the nand is 4gb the sd can be whatever size you want upto 32gb |
| 14:04.22 | \\Mr_C\\ | i guess you could use the nand to boot and use the sd for storage of media if you like |
| 14:04.35 | \\Mr_C\\ | so many possibilities |
| 14:04.48 | royger | yes, but I mean, why some images only work for NAND or SD, isn't it the same? |
| 14:05.14 | \\Mr_C\\ | pretty much |
| 14:05.24 | \\Mr_C\\ | just a couple changes in the boot config |
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| 14:07.39 | royger | also, the kernel support for the A20/Cubieboard2 is not still merged into upstream Linux right? |
| 14:09.25 | buZz | royger: same as A10 |
| 14:09.44 | buZz | also not into upstream yet (most of it) |
| 14:09.59 | bfree | cubie2 is not going to boot with a cubie1 kernel (tried with cubie1 and cubie2 script.bin and all sane vairants of options). just hangs at "Calibrating delay loop". and that was me trying with an supporting a20 u-boot (which a cubie1 image wouldn't have) |
| 14:10.57 | buZz | but, can you boot a A10 cubie with a A20 image? :P |
| 14:10.58 | bfree | a20 kernel support hasn't even made it to linux-sunxi normal kernel's yet (afaik, only in the last few days if it has), neither 3.0 or 3.4, so you are "stuck" with the ~vendor 3.3 kernel |
| 14:11.21 | buZz | hansg is working hard though |
| 14:13.30 | bfree | buZz: possibly you can boot the A20 kernel on an A10, but again I wouldn't be tooo confident. and I somehow doubt the A20 u-boot/script.bin will work on the A10 anyway either ;) |
| 14:13.54 | buZz | hmm yeah and you would need a diff .fex anyway |
| 14:14.26 | bfree | I can't be bothered to re-arrange things to test that though ;) fex->script.bin (well that seems to be the conventional name for the binary version anyway) |
| 14:15.17 | Bushmills | generally, one can run an SMP kernel on a single core machine without ill effects (apart from unnecessary use of a bit of RAM) |
| 14:16.48 | royger | I'm not sure if Linux has some kind of patching mechanism to disable things like spinlocks when configured as SMP but running in UP |
| 14:17.27 | royger | from what I've seen most development is done in linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com, does that also include patches that are sent to upstream Linux? |
| 14:17.56 | bfree | smp kernel on up isn't an issue really. but a single kernel that supports A10 and A20 is more then just that |
| 14:18.31 | buZz | is printing a new case for his A20 |
| 14:18.32 | bfree | royger: http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort |
| 14:18.34 | buZz | the stackable one |
| 14:18.40 | buZz | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:67952 |
| 14:18.48 | royger | sure, A10 is an A8 if I remember correctly, and A20 is an A7 |
| 14:21.31 | bfree | I've been pondering converting the cardboard box and ?polystyrene? packaging into a stacked cubie1 and cubie2 "case" :-p meanwhile they sit on the ?polystyrene? with cables dangling around ;) |
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| 14:30.53 | royger | bfree: I've tried the wheezy image that you suggested, but my board continues to boot from NAND: http://pastebin.com/UGHKWc5H |
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| 14:34.59 | bfree | royger: did you unxz it? did you write it to the correct raw device (e.g. /dev/mmcblk0 or /dev/sdb NOT /dev/mmcblk0p1 or /dev/sdb1)? |
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| 14:35.38 | royger | bfree: yes, unzx and dd to /dev/rdisk2 (I'm on a mac) |
| 14:36.11 | bfree | is /dev/rdisk2 really the full usb device and NOT a partition? |
| 14:36.44 | royger | yes, full SD, or it would be something like disk2p1 or similar |
| 14:38.40 | royger | let me check the hashes |
| 14:41.59 | \\Mr_C\\ | royger |
| 14:42.07 | \\Mr_C\\ | why hide the beuty of the boards? |
| 14:42.13 | royger | \\Mr_C\\: ? |
| 14:42.25 | \\Mr_C\\ | just get some little metal feet stackers and dont cover the sournding outside |
| 14:43.24 | bfree | \\Mr_C\\: I guess you meant to address that to me ... or buzz ;) |
| 14:43.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh |
| 14:43.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | yea |
| 14:43.46 | \\Mr_C\\ | the cardboard box message |
| 14:43.49 | royger | bfree: sha sum matches, so I need to perform some kind of button combination or something like this to force the board to boot from SD? I think not, but maybe I'm missing something obvious |
| 14:44.32 | bfree | protection is mainly why I'm thinking about wrapping them up. stop stuff falling on them or them falling. also it's just a mess having cables going everywhere :-p |
| 14:45.49 | \\Mr_C\\ | like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Pcs-Gold-Tone-Male-Female-PCB-Pillars-Standoff-Spacers-M2x6mmx9mm-/321099288065?pt=US_Computer_Case_Accessories_Tool_Kits&hash=item4ac3024e01 |
| 14:46.00 | \\Mr_C\\ | or this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nylon-Hex-Spacer-Screw-Nut-Assorted-Kit-Stand-off-/190854481341?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6fd045bd |
| 14:46.09 | royger | bfree: solved it, disconnecting the UART cable and connecting again seems to do the trick |
| 14:47.11 | \\Mr_C\\ | royger if the image is written to the sd card right, it will boot it every time |
| 14:47.16 | \\Mr_C\\ | it takes prioroty over the nand |
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| 14:49.23 | royger | is it normal to power the board from the UART to USB cable? |
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| 14:50.56 | royger | I had UART vcc not connected previously and I was powering the board from the normal power input, but not I've connected vcc and the board seems to get the power from that... not sure how safe that it |
| 14:51.23 | royger | ... but now I've... |
| 14:52.46 | bfree | no, do not connect the vcc! |
| 14:53.56 | bfree | royger: linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/TTL see the warnings! |
| 14:54.16 | bfree | "The Cubieboard does NOT require power (red cable), and it may damage your board if connected." |
| 14:56.05 | royger | hahaha, great |
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| 15:13.36 | \\Mr_C\\ | royger |
| 15:13.45 | \\Mr_C\\ | never connect the usb red power |
| 15:13.57 | \\Mr_C\\ | the cubie vcc is output |
| 15:14.19 | \\Mr_C\\ | its for rs232's that dont supply their own power |
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| 15:21.46 | royger | \\Mr_C\\: seems like my board is still alive and working as expected... but yes, I don't plan to do it again |
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| 17:31.53 | jelly-home | can't be worse than the guy who powered his board with +12V |
| 17:34.22 | r4v5 | did the board live |
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| 18:51.11 | jelly-home | yes |
| 18:55.06 | jelly-home | oh, sorry, it wasn't a cubie... it was an A13 Olinuxino Micro |
| 18:57.33 | jelly-home | http://sunxiboards.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/the-kernel-now-boots/ [and later] # Jun 20 05:02:55 <derethor> the chip is very hot |
| 19:16.55 | buZz | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KEf_uKQnL50/UcyKOQKcWzI/AAAAAAAABRQ/y-f_aYgmBFU/s800/IMG_20130627_205313.jpg |
| 19:16.58 | buZz | :) |
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| 19:29.36 | jelly-home | what is it |
| 19:39.11 | r4v5 | Looks like a 3d printed Cubieboard case |
| 19:39.17 | r4v5 | miles better than my Lego case. |
| 19:39.40 | r4v5 | Does it have an additional box for the SATA drive? |
| 19:42.09 | madmaxx | hiiiii |
| 19:42.38 | madmaxx | the cubie 2 warms too? |
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| 19:46.18 | Ivek | Hello to all |
| 19:48.13 | Ivek | I have network bandwith problem with my cubiboard a10 (model from 2012.09.09), after test network result is interval:0.0-10.2 sec transfer:8.12 MBytes bandwith:6.69 Mbits/sec |
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| 19:49.32 | r4v5 | what operating system? what's the connected machine? using onboard ethernet or wifi? |
| 19:49.40 | Ivek | but don't see what is problem I check ethtool and see Speed: 100Mb/s but real work on 6.6 Mb/s |
| 19:50.24 | Ivek | debian server clean dist... using ethernet not wifi |
| 20:00.45 | buZz | r4v5: yes! |
| 20:01.01 | buZz | here is one the designer printed; http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/1d/de/62/ee/f9/2013-04-07_09.56.47_display_large.jpg |
| 20:01.25 | buZz | well see the pictures on http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:67952 |
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| 20:29.57 | buZz | https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oXc3LwGwJKo/Ucygev36IDI/AAAAAAAABRs/0qU1vEEqpyw/s800/IMG_20130627_222555.jpg |
| 20:30.01 | buZz | done :) |
| 20:45.38 | madmaxx | the cubie 2 warms too???? |
| 20:46.26 | buZz | eh |
| 20:46.32 | buZz | all cpus heat up when working? |
| 20:48.01 | madmaxx | buZz qhat kind of material is this in the case? |
| 20:48.19 | buZz | PLA |
| 20:48.27 | buZz | Poly lactic acid |
| 20:48.35 | madmaxx | translate please |
| 20:49.08 | madmaxx | lactic acid is not to make food??? |
| 20:49.10 | madmaxx | o__o |
| 20:53.39 | buZz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polylactic_acid |
| 20:54.01 | buZz | Polylactic acid or polylactide (PLA) is a thermoplastic aliphatic polyester derived from renewable resources, such as corn starch (in the United States), tapioca roots, chips or starch (mostly in Asia), or sugarcane (in the rest of the world). |
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| 21:00.42 | georg_ | Hi I have cubiboard a10, and installed debian server clean , and for routing I need two network interfaces, problem is in my usb ethernet (QF9700) he is connect on my dsl but work on only 5-6 mbi/s (on box declared 100 mbi/s) any know how to fix? |
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| 21:15.56 | rm | georg_, QF9700 is an USB 1.1 device |
| 21:16.04 | rm | it's maximum is 12 Mbit/sec actually |
| 21:16.08 | rm | its* |
| 21:16.25 | rm | better luck when buying next time |
| 21:16.31 | georg_ | oh |
| 21:16.54 | rm | maybe this time you will consult some HOWTOs before buying http://romanrm.ru/en/a10#usb-nics-buyer-s-guide |
| 21:17.00 | georg_ | rm: omg...in that case that is my epic fail |
| 21:17.29 | georg_ | rm: thanks on info |
| 21:17.49 | madmaxx | buZz do you can send me this case project?? |
| 21:17.50 | madmaxx | :P |
| 21:19.59 | buZz | yes 1mom |
| 21:20.03 | buZz | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:67952 |
| 21:20.07 | buZz | there are the files |
| 21:20.11 | buZz | its creative commons |
| 21:20.42 | buZz | you can sell, but you have to show the name ;) |
| 21:21.03 | georg_ | rm: but I now check box gigatech glc-u07 support usb 1.1/2.0 10/100Mbps |
| 21:21.35 | georg_ | rm: don't know whay use module witch work only over usb 1.1 |
| 21:23.24 | buZz | usb 2 didnt always exist |
| 21:26.27 | georg_ | buZz: You say seller of this card cheated me? (I ask him specif. usb2 and 100Mbps usb network adapter) |
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| 22:24.11 | pidpawel | buZz: do you know if the author of this case uses irc? :) |
| 22:25.44 | buZz | doubt it, i havent seen him |
| 22:26.07 | buZz | georg_: its quite common marketing to leave away the word 'compatible' |
| 22:26.22 | buZz | pidpawel: but you can reach him through thingiverse |
| 22:26.33 | buZz | pidpawel: what would you like changed on the case? |
| 22:26.52 | buZz | besides having mounting holes for the 2.5" disk :P |
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| 22:28.22 | pidpawel | buZz: actually nothing :) he's from Poland too - that's the only reason :) |
| 22:28.28 | buZz | hehe ok |
| 22:28.38 | buZz | you need more bodies for the hackerspace startup? ;) |
| 22:34.05 | pidpawel | he's from Warsaw, i'm from Kraków. i just want to make sure he knows about Warsaw Hackerspace :P |
| 22:34.45 | pidpawel | besides - there is a hackerspace in Kraków too \o/ |
| 22:35.20 | pidpawel | time to go to sleep. cya later :) |
| 22:37.27 | buZz | nn ;) |
| 22:37.47 | georg_ | nite buzz |
| 22:38.07 | buZz | isnt going to bed |
| 22:38.17 | buZz | i need some movie |
| 22:44.04 | madmaxx | buZz this link of this case project, paste for me again, please |
| 22:44.05 | madmaxx | :P |
| 23:02.23 | buZz | 23:20:03 < buZz> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:67952 |
| 23:02.29 | buZz | madmaxx: ^^^ |
| 23:02.58 | madmaxx | i install a security module, and reboot the PC without my permission |
| 23:02.59 | madmaxx | :P |
| 23:03.03 | madmaxx | thanks buzzz |
| 23:17.31 | buZz | thats why i dont run winderp ;) |
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| 23:55.04 | jelly-home | http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/259/8/3/derpy_broke_windows_wallpaper_by_jjbanton-d5ewxne.png ? |
