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| 07:39.51 | discopig | hi |
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| 08:53.02 | chkktri | yay, it finally arrived |
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| 08:53.32 | Yakuz | what will you use it for ? |
| 08:53.50 | chkktri | ahem, do i get this right: for first startup you will need monitour with HDMI to at least select VGA output? |
| 08:54.16 | lunra | selection is done via fex/bin files :) |
| 08:54.39 | lunra | Which you can edit without starting it up. However I've not used the VGA output so I don't know about other steps |
| 08:54.45 | lunra | (I shouldn't have said anything, sorry!_ |
| 08:54.47 | chkktri | hm, i planned to try to record data between CPU & DSP processor on old arcade machines synthesizers and such |
| 08:55.18 | chkktri | lunra: i believe after installing arch\debian i will have SSH access? |
| 08:55.26 | lunra | yes |
| 08:55.28 | chkktri | good |
| 08:55.56 | chkktri | btw, there's serial port as i can see, can it be used for terminal connectivity too? |
| 08:55.58 | lunra | If you install Arch, and it boots succesfully, it will automatically connect to a wired network and you can just find it on your network |
| 08:56.11 | lunra | yes, the serial port can be used for terminal, but it's a 3v3 serial port |
| 08:56.25 | chkktri | and what does this means? :) |
| 08:56.40 | lunra | it uses 0V for 'low' and 3.3V for 'high' |
| 08:57.06 | lunra | instead of -15V for 'low' and 15V for 'high' as in RS232 |
| 08:58.17 | chkktri | hm, so i can't use it directly? |
| 08:58.47 | lunra | you can use a 3.3V serial port directly :P |
| 08:58.52 | lunra | but not RS232 directly |
| 08:59.08 | chkktri | ok, i'll stick to ssh then |
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| 09:56.07 | chkktri | oh, it actually boot |
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| 11:17.43 | morfoh | mnemoc: wake up |
| 11:18.31 | mnemoc | morfoh? |
| 11:18.47 | morfoh | it's story time |
| 11:18.58 | morfoh | and you are not there |
| 11:19.22 | morfoh | at least it seems so |
| 11:19.25 | morfoh | :) |
| 11:21.11 | mnemoc | ... |
| 11:21.13 | mnemoc | ok |
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| 11:32.40 | chkktri | hm, do i get this right: to move exsisting OS on SD card to NAND flash i will need to repartition it like SD card and then duplicate FS with something like dd? |
| 11:33.57 | lunra | you need a NAND-specific uboot iirc. moment, there's a wiki page |
| 11:34.24 | chkktri | hm, ok |
| 11:34.29 | lunra | http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND |
| 11:34.37 | lunra | I did this with Arch, didn't have to change much |
| 11:34.55 | chkktri | oh, you're using arch too |
| 11:35.05 | chkktri | one question: how do i add user? |
| 11:35.29 | Bushmills | man adduser |
| 11:35.32 | chkktri | creating user with useradd creates user, but i can't change password later |
| 11:35.36 | chkktri | ok |
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| 11:35.46 | Bushmills | man passwd |
| 11:36.24 | Bushmills | for non-interactive password changes, man chpasswd |
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| 11:44.00 | chkktri | ok, done |
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| 11:48.54 | lunra | make sure to do a [sudo] sync |
| 11:49.07 | lunra | I didn't and three times the NAND was corrupted |
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| 12:05.07 | chkktri | oh, okay |
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| 12:28.06 | \\Mr_C\\ | https://github.com/EddyBeaupre/armStrap ... this script ROCKs for creating a fresh clean image or sd card |
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| 13:05.37 | simosx | \\Mr_C\\, nice. |
| 13:06.26 | \\Mr_C\\ | yes |
| 13:06.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | ive been helping the creater to add things, its pretty cool |
| 13:07.03 | \\Mr_C\\ | it even adds all the needed tools and stuff for sunxitools |
| 13:07.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | and nand tools |
| 13:07.45 | \\Mr_C\\ | the rest is a clean instal of debian |
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| 13:20.21 | user_2 | \\Mr_C\\, did you try the script on nand flash of cubieboard? |
| 13:20.38 | \\Mr_C\\ | yes |
| 13:21.49 | user_2 | so you boot from sd card, download the script, run it and it do a "image" on nand. then you shot down, take out uSD, reboot and ne nand image boot a debian CLI? it is correct? |
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| 13:22.17 | user_2 | ne/the |
| 13:22.41 | \\Mr_C\\ | i created the sd card on a laptop with linux using the script |
| 13:22.55 | \\Mr_C\\ | then boot the sd from cubie and then use the tools to flash the nand |
| 13:23.05 | \\Mr_C\\ | talk later, gotta goto class |
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| 14:53.05 | chkktri | ahem |
| 14:53.11 | chkktri | this is confusing |
| 14:53.28 | chkktri | according to free there's only 307MB of RAM |
| 14:53.35 | chkktri | do i miss something? |
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| 15:11.28 | user_2 | chkktri, only "307MB of RAM" or "307MB of FREE RAM"? |
| 15:14.37 | chkktri | first one |
| 15:15.40 | chkktri | http://pastebin.com/ZPq7c28H just in case if i'm misreading this |
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| 16:09.52 | Gumboot_ | chkktri: What does dmesg say about available RAM? |
| 16:12.42 | jelly-home | chkktri: is that supposed to be the initial 512M model or the 1G one? you might be booting with an incorrect/suboptimal script.bin? |
| 16:13.06 | Gumboot | chkktri: Looking at my own system, it looks like I've given over ~200MB to (probably) the GPU. So a system advertising 300MB free is probably doing the same. |
| 16:13.23 | chkktri | jelly-home: 1GB |
| 16:13.42 | chkktri | giving 700MB to GPU is odd |
| 16:13.52 | Gumboot | I don't think that's happened. |
| 16:14.11 | Gumboot | What jelly-home said. It'll probably be a misconfigured board. |
| 16:14.17 | chkktri | [ 0.000000] Memory: 448MB = 448MB total |
| 16:14.33 | Gumboot | Where'd you get the board? |
| 16:14.43 | chkktri | hm? from shopify |
| 16:14.55 | Gumboot | Provided it's not one of the ones that really does have a half-gig, you'll be able to fix it yourself. |
| 16:15.03 | jelly-home | [ 0.000000] Memory: 448MB 512MB = 960MB total # with correct settings |
| 16:15.04 | Gumboot | Meanwhile, I want my GPU memory back, because this is a headless box. |
| 16:15.10 | Gumboot | Or maybe it's not GPU. |
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| 16:16.22 | chkktri | oh, and another thing i noticed - each time i boot board MAC is changed, how can i configure such behaviour? |
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| 16:17.14 | Gumboot | Actually, it's only 64MB given over to Mali. VE is even greedier. What's VE? |
| 16:17.41 | jelly-home | chkktri: which image are you booting? Where did you get it from? |
| 16:18.04 | chkktri | http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/cubieboard one form here |
| 16:18.18 | chkktri | and yes, i just blindly followed the guide |
| 16:19.26 | jelly-home | chkktri: read http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps for a start, I guess |
| 16:21.51 | jelly-home | pick the correct hwpack for your hardware, and use that instead of whatever archlinuxarm.org provided, since it seems it's not for the 1GB cubie |
| 16:25.33 | Gumboot | I guess maybe they got something mixed up with the Mele board they support, which is only a half-gig. |
| 16:25.45 | rm | Gumboot, VE = video engine, I suppose |
| 16:26.11 | Gumboot | Oh, I guess that's plausible. |
| 16:26.26 | Gumboot | That's about what you'd need for the full set of h.264 reference frames at HD, isn't it? |
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| 16:26.43 | Gumboot | A little bit odd that that would be pre-allocated, though. |
| 16:27.02 | Gumboot | Maybe they need unfragmented memory. |
| 16:39.01 | chkktri | here we go, 812MB |
| 16:46.58 | Gumboot | That's about right. Same as what I have. Hardware and kernel steal the rest. |
| 16:50.32 | jelly-home | a headless setup would give even more |
| 16:51.56 | chkktri | another question here, according to lsmod there are no modules loaded/installed |
| 16:52.04 | chkktri | is that normal behavior? |
| 16:52.17 | chkktri | my N900 shows quite a lot of them |
| 16:52.52 | jelly-home | that depends on the way the kernel is built |
| 16:53.08 | Gumboot | Also, things might not be loaded simply because the feature hasn't been used. |
| 16:53.17 | chkktri | can i ask for more info? |
| 16:53.20 | Gumboot | I don't know how common it is to do things that way. |
| 16:53.21 | jelly-home | or they're compiled in |
| 16:54.13 | Gumboot | chkktri: You can build all your modules into the kernel so they don't appear as modules. If the hardware never changes then often there's not much reason to do it any other way, and it keeps things simle. |
| 16:54.16 | Gumboot | simple |
| 16:54.32 | Gumboot | Simplicity isn't really what Linux is about, though, so it's not usually done that way. |
| 16:54.48 | chkktri | i wanted to use windows network access a few hours ago and i had to use insmod to load cifs module, package reinstalling didn't seemed to help a lot |
| 16:54.50 | Gumboot | Also, I'm not sure about Linux's paging rules. |
| 16:55.26 | chkktri | hm, then why there are a whle bunch of modules in /lib? |
| 16:55.58 | Gumboot | Maybe they were built but simply never loaded, then. |
| 16:56.24 | chkktri | that's confusing, can i somehow add them to autoload? |
| 16:56.38 | Gumboot | That would be an archlinux question, I think. |
| 16:57.43 | Gumboot | I mean, different Linux distributions have different abstractions for all of these things. I don't know anything about arch. |
| 16:57.53 | chkktri | same here tbh |
| 16:58.06 | chkktri | used only debian based distributions so far |
| 16:58.16 | chkktri | ok, lemme dig up on their wiki |
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| 18:52.20 | Bushmills | in case anyone wants to order at miniand.com, maybe postage can be saved by ordering 0.9999999999 items instead of 1: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/snap/grind.png |
| 18:56.35 | chkktri | a board without one of resistors? :) |
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| 18:59.55 | Bushmills | should be far less than one resistor missing. as resistor is more like 0.01% of the board |
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| 19:00.24 | chkktri | just kidding |
| 19:03.19 | Bushmills | a few atoms missing :) |
| 19:04.59 | simosx | Bushmills, I think the shop at myshopify does send with standard mail (free shipping) |
| 19:05.35 | chkktri | ..even if you select DHL |
| 19:06.40 | Bushmills | cubiestore? $7 it was. names has changed, is something with geek... now |
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| 19:30.04 | Gumboot | Shipping might be zero because they'll ship zero units, of course. |
| 19:30.08 | uizex1 | so myshopify is free shipping? the shipping rate claculator isnt working |
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| 19:33.24 | Bushmills | shipping costs are added at the end |
| 19:34.02 | Bushmills | just before you confirm payment |
| 19:34.38 | Bushmills | still, the amounts are reasonable |
| 19:44.03 | simosx | uizex1, if you tell Tom that you country can receive reliably parcels from China, then he can open the option for Standard Delivery to your country. |
| 19:50.12 | Bushmills | ah, http://geekybuy.com it is now |
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| 21:06.43 | suhanc_ | bye |
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| 21:26.05 | \\Mr_C\\ | bushmills |
| 21:26.11 | \\Mr_C\\ | did it only charge you half? |
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| 23:44.15 | WhiteFlash | Hi all |
