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| 06:07.21 | slackwareer | Have you guys compiled xbmc on arch linux? |
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| 06:16.16 | foubarre | !ls |
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| 06:18.35 | foubarre | Hello everyone. Any idea if/when cad files for the A10 board would be online? |
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| 07:51.27 | shineworld | I'm trying to connect a penmount capacitive touchscreen (PenMount-1201) and seem in penmount.c that there is already a kernel module. |
| 07:51.47 | shineworld | The module search for a /../input0 |
| 07:52.01 | shineworld | what is input0 and where is connected on cubieboard ? |
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| 07:57.45 | foubarre | Hello. Anyone succeded in running debian wheezy ? |
| 08:00.03 | FourthDr | not me |
| 08:01.37 | foubarre | FourthDr: do you mean that you tried and failed? |
| 08:04.41 | FourthDr | using linaro |
| 08:05.12 | FourthDr | as I understand it, you should be able to run debian for raspberry pi without any problems |
| 08:05.24 | FourthDr | but have not tried it |
| 08:05.41 | foubarre | oh. that would be nice. |
| 08:05.47 | FourthDr | just image an sd card and try it |
| 08:06.07 | FourthDr | can't hirt anything |
| 08:06.18 | jelly-home | except performance |
| 08:06.25 | FourthDr | now loading to nand is something different |
| 08:06.35 | FourthDr | not sure how you would do that |
| 08:06.39 | foubarre | i have a pi with a complete install and software. That would be nice if i could take the sd from the pi and plug it in the cubie. and if it worked out of the box, that would be even nicer. |
| 08:07.06 | FourthDr | try it and report back ;-) |
| 08:07.44 | FourthDr | I haven't touched my cubie for a few weeks...been busy learning python |
| 08:08.23 | FourthDr | need to get vnc working on the cubie before I can do more with it....no room for an extra monitor |
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| 08:11.42 | jelly-home | FourthDr: I got a hdmi switch to solve that problem |
| 08:12.11 | jelly-home | (my monitor only has one digital input) |
| 08:12.48 | jelly-home | also, a usb switch to keep using the same keyboard |
| 08:12.49 | FourthDr | I don't have anything with hdmi and the composite sucks...the res on composite is terrible! wished they had put regular hdmi on the RPi |
| 08:13.14 | jelly-home | FourthDr: you don't have a monitor with DVI-D? |
| 08:13.34 | FourthDr | I mean regular vga :-D |
| 08:14.05 | jelly-home | oh, I didn't do vga on cubie |
| 08:14.22 | FourthDr | ya, but it's a pain to use and hdmi cable + the dvi converter since all my other stuff is vga |
| 08:14.44 | FourthDr | vga on raspberry pi |
| 08:15.05 | jelly-home | it doesn't have hdmi? |
| 08:15.19 | FourthDr | cubie has vga, but you need a small circuit board + parts and vga connector |
| 08:15.40 | FourthDr | RPi has hdmi just not vga |
| 08:15.51 | FourthDr | I prefer vga |
| 08:15.55 | jelly-home | so there's hdmi on both rpi and cubie |
| 08:16.12 | FourthDr | works with my switch box, hdmi doesn't |
| 08:16.21 | FourthDr | yup |
| 08:16.35 | jelly-home | that's where a hdmi switch comes in |
| 08:17.07 | FourthDr | hdmi switch only works if all you out puts are hdmi |
| 08:17.20 | jelly-home | of course |
| 08:17.23 | FourthDr | mine are all vga at the moment |
| 08:17.34 | jelly-home | sucks to be analog |
| 08:17.39 | FourthDr | not cost affective to switch |
| 08:18.05 | FourthDr | well, hdmi is drm'd |
| 08:18.14 | FourthDr | the vga is not |
| 08:18.21 | jelly-home | that's crap |
| 08:19.25 | jelly-home | there's no drm involved in getting video from a pc or a dev board to a dvi-d monitor |
| 08:19.47 | FourthDr | only nice thing about hdmi is it combinds video/audio/ethernet/power all on one cable |
| 08:20.06 | FourthDr | plus remote control on some systems |
| 08:37.39 | foubarre | FourthDr: should 3D acceleration work too if we use a pi linux? |
| 08:38.27 | foubarre | FourthDr: i'm a bit newbie when it comes to arm. Not sure about backward compatibility, how things should run on armV7 vs armV6... |
| 08:43.32 | rm | you can't directly use a Raspberry Pi SD card in a CB |
| 08:43.38 | rm | they use different bootloaders |
| 08:43.54 | rm | there is a number of Debian Wheezy bootable images: http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images |
| 08:44.08 | rm | specifically for the A10 (in Cubieboard) |
| 08:44.31 | lunra | basically the 'BIOS' is stored on the SD card, not in ROM (there's a bootloader in ROM too, but all it does it load another bootloader from the SD) |
| 08:44.54 | rm | I do not see any value in shoehorning a word "BIOS" here |
| 08:45.17 | lunra | yeah, u-boot doesn't really expose any IO functions |
| 08:45.22 | rm | u-boot really does not have much in common with x86 BIOS |
| 08:45.40 | lunra | Sorry, I thought it would assist in the explaination |
| 08:45.41 | rm | also people would expect some sort of setup menu like on x86 |
| 08:47.04 | foubarre | rm: thanks for the information |
| 08:47.16 | lunra | And no, you won't get 3D accel from using a Pi linux distro |
| 08:47.29 | lunra | because it's different video hardware. |
| 08:47.42 | lunra | It's like trying to use an ATI driver with a nVidia card :) |
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| 08:50.30 | BigWhoop[DE] | its like try AMD card on linux OS :D |
| 08:50.38 | BigWhoop[DE] | ATI is dead...long time now |
| 08:50.57 | foubarre | lunra: thanks. I was hoping it would be somewhat compatible.. |
| 08:51.40 | foubarre | lunra: but do the images RM submitted have 3D acceleration? |
| 08:51.52 | BigWhoop[DE] | the most not imho |
| 08:52.01 | BigWhoop[DE] | you have to build the binary drivers for it |
| 08:52.15 | BigWhoop[DE] | but its easy: http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers |
| 08:52.39 | BigWhoop[DE] | i have made a working rootfs with 3D drivers included |
| 08:52.49 | BigWhoop[DE] | but for linaro |
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| 08:53.53 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: ok. looks feasible. Are those pages related to linaro or debian? Or agnostic? |
| 08:54.13 | foubarre | can't wait to get a board |
| 08:54.14 | BigWhoop[DE] | linux OS :D |
| 08:54.27 | BigWhoop[DE] | because you compile the driver for your OS |
| 08:54.29 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: hehe. So can i really say "agnostic"? ;) |
| 08:55.02 | cube_x | it is normal for me not to recognize the internal memory from the berryboot? |
| 08:55.18 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: thanks, this really helps me in going forward, accumulating docs and knowledge before getting the board |
| 08:57.05 | BigWhoop[DE] | berryboot only installs on SD-cards |
| 08:59.05 | cube_x | I mean install in internal memory using the berryboot through microsd |
| 09:02.21 | cube_x | how to install linux in internal memory |
| 09:02.30 | cube_x | ? |
| 09:03.34 | BigWhoop[DE] | you need a working linux os on your SD Card |
| 09:04.03 | BigWhoop[DE] | and then follow this tutorial: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND |
| 09:04.19 | BigWhoop[DE] | but with your allready owned OS and not with the debian from this tut |
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| 09:05.23 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: is there a chance that the java8sdk for the pi work within a debian on cubie? Oracle released a version for the pi, not sure it is that limited to it. |
| 09:06.18 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: https://jdk8.java.net/fxarmpreview/javafx-arm-developer-preview.html |
| 09:06.20 | rm | yes, might work |
| 09:06.34 | BigWhoop[DE] | maybe. just try |
| 09:07.00 | foubarre | hehe. would love to. Just need a board. |
| 09:07.14 | foubarre | got to get one from Germany. |
| 09:07.20 | foubarre | today |
| 09:09.44 | BigWhoop[DE] | nice and sweet country :D |
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| 09:22.23 | foubarre | BigWhoop[DE]: hehe. Sure. Came to Munchen years ago. Nice trip.. |
| 09:26.59 | BigWhoop[DE] | i was there last week |
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| 10:09.31 | bigx | hi there |
| 10:09.45 | bigx | i'm trying to get my install on the nand |
| 10:09.55 | bigx | so i followed that : http://guillaumeplayground.net/mele-a2000-ubuntu-12-10-armhf-base-with-nand-install-v1/ |
| 10:10.18 | bigx | but I already had a headless debian on the nand |
| 10:11.02 | bigx | and when i use the PIMP_MY_MELE script to copy the fs on the nand, it tells me that there's no space left on the nand |
| 10:11.24 | bigx | what's the safe way to format/erase data on the nand? |
| 10:15.33 | user_2 | hipboi|cubie, are you in? |
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| 10:32.18 | bigx | i'm planning to use the cubieboard for an interactive webdocumentary |
| 10:32.46 | bigx | where the user will be able to interact with the gpios |
| 10:33.35 | bigx | and these interactions will be reflected on the html page |
| 10:34.07 | bigx | i'm planning to use node.js + websockets on the server side |
| 10:34.17 | bigx | all of that would be easy for me |
| 10:34.32 | user_2 | bigx, nice project: do ypu plan to track your activities and create an "how to" for other people? |
| 10:34.56 | bigx | but i need to be able to configure the board (os on nand, activate gpio, etc...) |
| 10:35.09 | bigx | user_2, sure i'll do |
| 10:35.36 | user_2 | ggod, report it somewhere in the Web and notice us :) |
| 10:35.57 | bigx | if i can go trough the first steps (the os stuff) which are the hard ones for me |
| 10:36.39 | bigx | i'll would like to also release the node.js lib to interact with gpio |
| 10:39.00 | bigx | user_2 do you know how to erase the os on nand? |
| 10:39.59 | user_2 | bigx, never did, but i suppose the usual procedure: user "dd" to overvriete all, and "cfdisk" to rereate a partition table. |
| 10:40.20 | user_2 | at least "cfdisk" is enogh, it can delete partition. |
| 10:52.03 | BigWhoop[DE] | you dont need to erase it. |
| 10:52.05 | BigWhoop[DE] | just write it over :) |
| 10:52.49 | BigWhoop[DE] | the easiest way is to make an working linux OS on the SD-Card and then write it to the NAND. |
| 10:53.08 | BigWhoop[DE] | this worked for my costum debian system: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND |
| 10:53.25 | BigWhoop[DE] | i dont use the debian image described in the link above |
| 10:53.36 | BigWhoop[DE] | just start with the flash process |
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| 11:00.36 | bigx | thx BigWhoop[DE] i'll be able to install a desktop env then? i tried to install lxde on that image and failed |
| 11:00.53 | BigWhoop[DE] | depends on your OS |
| 11:01.25 | bigx | if i start with the link you gave me |
| 11:02.26 | BigWhoop[DE] | dont know the debian system from the link |
| 11:02.28 | BigWhoop[DE] | used my own |
| 11:04.41 | Bushmills | there's also debootstrap |
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| 11:04.57 | Bushmills | especially for minimal systems quite suited |
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| 11:25.48 | bigx | i'm a big noob when it comes to make its own system |
| 11:26.34 | bigx | i just need a classic debian with desktop, hdmi + sound, and gpios |
| 11:27.06 | bigx | once i got that, i'll be ok, but for now i'm lost! |
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| 12:20.03 | bigx | so i tried http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND with my image, I copied the system on the nand, and can ssh in hte cubie |
| 12:20.19 | bigx | but I cannot connect the cuibe to and hdmi screen |
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| 12:22.38 | bigx | how do i configure it? |
| 12:27.33 | BigWhoop[DE] | you have a wrong debian system with headless kernel imho |
| 12:28.14 | BigWhoop[DE] | the hdmi connection works from default with the right OS. |
| 12:28.32 | bigx | ok, then which image do you recommend? |
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| 12:35.38 | BigWhoop[DE] | you can try my linaro system with build in mali drivers |
| 12:36.02 | BigWhoop[DE] | http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php/topic,197.0.html |
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| 12:39.59 | lunra | Has anyone got http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND to work with ALARM? I got it to boot via serial console but dbus dies strangely causing systemd to fail to progress. Can't debug because I can't get a shell. |
| 12:41.49 | lunra | getty seems to also die |
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| 12:44.32 | lunra | ugh, nevernmind, it doesn't fsck properly |
| 12:44.39 | lunra | i'll start over :) |
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| 12:51.31 | jelly-home | lunra: what's "ALARM" |
| 12:52.43 | c0w_mau_cew | hello |
| 12:52.51 | c0w_mau_cew | how the seller? |
| 13:08.44 | lunra | jelly-home: ALARM is Arch Linux on ARM |
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| 13:10.14 | Bushmills | what i/o speeds do you roughly get with a reasonably fast SATA drive on cubieboard? |
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| 13:11.37 | jelly-home | Bushmills: 100MB/s single thread, sequential, largish io |
| 13:12.07 | Bushmills | that's rather good. more than i hoped for, actually. |
| 13:12.25 | jelly-home | with a reasonably mediocre SSD that can do 200-220 read in a PC |
| 13:15.48 | jelly-home | it was unstable with 3Gbps link tho, after they renegoitated down to 1.5Gbps things went smoothly |
| 13:19.14 | lunra | yay, after a paranoid load of 'sync' commands, I got my cubieboard to boot Arch from NAND |
| 13:20.37 | lunra | First 3 times I got corruption |
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| 13:26.51 | rm | Bushmills, tested yesterday on a Mele A2000, 92 MB/sec read |
| 13:27.07 | rm | (raw, from block device) |
| 13:27.19 | rm | 38 MB/sec write (to a file on ext4 filesystem) |
| 13:27.45 | Bushmills | more than a 100 mbit ethernet link can deliver. |
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| 17:15.52 | Yaku-noob | are there any cheap good 5ghz wifi dongles ? |
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| 17:24.29 | Undertasker | Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two. |
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| 17:51.36 | rm | I ordered a couple from Aliexpress for about $17-18 each |
| 17:51.38 | rm | different ones |
| 17:51.53 | rm | Atheros and Realtek I think |
| 17:51.59 | rm | the realtek one has terrible reviews |
| 17:52.07 | rm | will see how it goes :) |
| 17:52.11 | rm | oh and none arrived yet |
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| 17:55.37 | Undertasker | Most 5GHz dongles seem to be unsupported by linux. |
| 17:56.45 | Undertasker | I won't order from Aliexpress again. The first thing I ordered never arrived, and the second one was crap. |
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| 18:05.38 | jelly-home | with shops like these, you have to carefully weigh the prices and reviews of the 20 almost-identical articles, try to figure which ones are crap reading between the lines; at least the "never arrived" can easily be contested with a proper tracking number |
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| 18:08.08 | Yaku-noob | currently i am still waiting for an arduino with ethernetshield that havenĀ“t been updated on the trackingpages i use for a month :( |
| 18:08.47 | whitespacebar | hi guys, anyone have problem to clone image from git? |
| 18:09.09 | whitespacebar | i got RPC failed result=56; HTTP code = 200 |
| 18:09.28 | whitespacebar | anybody ever experience this issue? |
| 18:10.05 | whitespacebar | it happens when i do this: git clone https://github.com/matson-hall/allwinner-buildroot.git -b cubieboard |
| 18:12.52 | whitespacebar | any takers? |
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| 19:29.02 | bigx | hi, i installed this img : https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/debian-wheezy-lxde-armhf-build (debian+lxde) |
| 19:29.28 | bigx | and video playback suck |
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| 20:28.14 | BigWhoop | bigx you have to install CedarX |
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