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| 01:06.23 | Tomatix | I am considering buying one of these neat small computer boards. Convince me why I should get CubieBoard. |
| 01:06.37 | Tomatix | ATM, I like the specs |
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| 04:18.39 | dongs | Tomatix: they're all teh same. |
| 04:19.15 | Tomatix | okay, well I guess I was to order cubieboard past this weekend anyways. |
| 04:19.51 | dongs | i mean if all you are going to do is run lunix on a slow crappy singlecore cortex SoC, you might as well just get wahtever is cheapest and doesnt look like ass. |
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| 06:15.00 | jelly-home | the "cheapest" won't necessarily run Linux well, dongs |
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| 07:00.43 | lunra | Bah. Has anyone got the wifi adapters from the cubieboard shopify store to work on linux-sunxi-3.4 (non-stage)? I'm loading the module in but it just isn't detected. ID is 0bda:8179 |
| 07:03.19 | lunra | perhaps I have the wrong module (oops) |
| 07:06.27 | lunra | aparently the 8192cu driver works? |
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| 07:27.52 | lunra | lol nope, and I have to pull in code from some other repo... but at least someone else has already done the heavy lifting and documentation |
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| 08:30.53 | lunra | Ugh. That code won't work with 3.4, seems the format of some structs changed between 3.0 and 3.4 |
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| 08:43.08 | lunra | I give up, downloading 3.0 |
| 08:43.08 | Undertasker | Interesting article about Linux graphics driver for ARM SOC's and the people behind them (also covers Raspi): http://blog.emmanueldeloget.com/index.php?post/2013/03/08/The-SoC-GPU-driver-interview |
| 08:49.18 | mnemoc | lunra: why are you injecting a 3.0 driver in 3.4? |
| 08:51.13 | mnemoc | 0bda:8179 points me to 8188eu, not 8192cu. iirc there is a driver for that in the stage-3.4 branch |
| 08:52.21 | lunra | Unless I made an error, there isn't |
| 08:52.40 | lunra | Moment. |
| 08:54.04 | lunra | Sadly, there isn't in stage or in stable |
| 08:55.05 | lunra | Unless 'that' is 8192cu, which there is :-). But yes, it's 8188cu that I should be trying to get to work. However, I did read -somewhere- where I can't find now that told me that 8192cu would work |
| 08:59.18 | mnemoc | 03b061ffdc8a7190a0fc34c369f1dc5ade65f018 added rtl8188eu to 3.0 |
| 08:59.29 | mnemoc | but you are right, forward porting that to 3.4 is still pending |
| 09:03.32 | lunra | But thanks mnemoc :) |
| 09:09.31 | mnemoc | can you file a ticket for that on github? |
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| 09:28.11 | lunra | I don't think I should... I mean it seems rude of me to do it. Afterall, 3.0 is kind of the recommended kernel at the moment |
| 09:28.39 | lunra | I mean, I know the whole point is so that 3.4 can be used more |
| 09:30.29 | mnemoc | we need to deprecate 3.0, and start integrating a31/a20 support in 3.4 |
| 09:31.14 | mnemoc | currently the only stopper to obsolete sunxi-3.0 is the lack of feedback about 3.4 from android people |
| 09:33.20 | mnemoc | 3.0 is still recomended because it has been more tested, not because we want to keep it |
| 09:34.20 | lunra | Alright, I'll make a ticket. |
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| 09:35.51 | delusr_ | !ls |
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| 09:36.15 | delusr_ | ls faq |
| 09:36.28 | delusr_ | [ls] faq |
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| 09:36.53 | delusr_ | !faq |
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| 09:37.43 | lunra | on github, ticket == issue, right? |
| 09:38.34 | mnemoc | yes |
| 09:56.33 | Undertasker | Is there an image with a working Lima driver? |
| 09:59.27 | mnemoc | hardly, specially considering there is no "working lima driver" yet |
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| 10:03.27 | lunra | mnemoc, how does this sound? "In stage/sunxi-3.0/drivers/net/wireless there is a driver for rtl8188eu devices, like the USB-WiFi adapter sold on the shopify cubieboard store. If 3.0 is to be deprecated, it would be good to have this driver forward-ported or otherwise included in 3.4.". I'm very concerned about making what seems like a pushy request. |
| 10:04.03 | mnemoc | reference the hash of the commit that added the driver |
| 10:04.22 | lunra | ah |
| 10:04.38 | lunra | Thanks |
| 10:05.57 | lunra | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/132 |
| 10:08.49 | mnemoc | and my build server now doesn't want to boot back up :( |
| 10:10.31 | shineworld | I haven't afford yet question about android and mali or cedar... are supported ? |
| 10:11.07 | mnemoc | allwinner only support android, so the android libs for mali and cedar are trivial to get |
| 10:11.26 | mnemoc | problem is getting newer/better linux blobs |
| 10:13.26 | shineworld | ah, so I I'm living in openbox that should be supported by them :) |
| 10:19.04 | ssvb | mnemoc: was it you who registered linux-sunxi mailing list at http://gmane.org/faq.php ? |
| 10:19.35 | mnemoc | ssvb: no, i wasn't |
| 10:20.42 | mnemoc | it would be awesome if someone with a not gmail-ized account could submit a complete mbox archive there |
| 10:20.42 | ssvb | ok, but it is really convenient for referencing to old posts (much better than google groups) |
| 10:21.17 | ssvb | it would be nice to have the same for cubieboard mailing list |
| 10:21.36 | mnemoc | i was going to move the wiki and setup mailman on a newer server in hetzner and the damn server just decided to die :( |
| 10:21.54 | lunra | http://paste.ee/p/KXQit any clue what I've done wrong? |
| 10:21.59 | mnemoc | can't even get the rescue system |
| 10:26.17 | lunra | (I'm using Roman's config, in case I'm including something that is broken now but wasn't before) |
| 10:28.27 | mnemoc | lunra: roman = rm |
| 10:29.52 | lunra | I know |
| 10:30.13 | lunra | I didn't want to risk highlighting him, which has the potential of waking him up |
| 10:30.24 | mnemoc | i see |
| 11:02.45 | rm | hello |
| 11:02.53 | rm | and with a different config it does compile properly? |
| 11:11.44 | lunra | rm: Nope, mnemoc asked me to check that. I should have tested that earlier, sorry |
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| 11:45.17 | wooy | heh, debian armhf is so clean it does not even have apt-get |
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| 12:14.53 | rm | mine has |
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| 16:24.57 | shineworld | solved problem with rotation (landscape / portrait ) in openbox |
| 16:25.25 | shineworld | yeah |
| 16:49.49 | user_2 | rm, are you in? |
| 16:50.41 | rm | yes |
| 16:50.49 | user_2 | can go in Private? |
| 16:51.16 | rm | well you went anyway |
| 16:51.23 | rm | not waiting for a yes/no |
| 16:51.28 | user_2 | sorry |
| 16:51.33 | user_2 | u prefere public? |
| 16:51.34 | rm | I'd say just ask whatever you want right here |
| 16:51.49 | user_2 | i can say here. |
| 16:51.56 | rm | it's not like we're going to discuss some secret stuff |
| 16:52.27 | user_2 | i want to report you about you image, i just download, install etc. |
| 16:53.42 | user_2 | i follow all the steps (create uSD with bzip2, dd the 2 little file, ) , then i set up static ip addrest editih /etc/network/interfaces on second partition. |
| 16:54.00 | user_2 | at it respond to ping .-) |
| 16:54.09 | user_2 | im happy to report you it works :-) |
| 16:54.17 | rm | great :) |
| 16:54.34 | user_2 | oh.. it does not i was pinging myself :-( |
| 16:55.18 | user_2 | i am x.x.x.100, on my laptop. i set eth0 = x.x.x.110 and eth1 = x.x.x120 on cubiebaord |
| 16:55.42 | user_2 | im using a crosscable, the cable works on different pc, so cable is ok. |
| 16:56.06 | user_2 | i corss cb and laptop. cb has red led on |
| 16:56.15 | user_2 | nic plug has green and orange led on. |
| 16:56.30 | user_2 | but not reply to ping i send from laptop |
| 16:56.36 | rm | are you using two NICs on the CB? |
| 16:57.03 | user_2 | no, i use integrated nic. i set eth1 adn eth0 static addres just for security. |
| 16:57.36 | rm | configure eth0 only |
| 16:57.38 | user_2 | in both case, i get "destinatio host unreachable" |
| 16:57.39 | rm | comment out eth1 |
| 16:58.12 | user_2 | i ani case, it should answer to ping also if eth1 doe not exist, right? |
| 16:58.23 | rm | maybe |
| 16:58.28 | rm | so maybe something else is wrong |
| 16:58.39 | rm | pastebin the whole 'interfaces' file |
| 16:58.48 | user_2 | ok, give me 5 min to reconfigure eth1 as comment out. |
| 16:58.52 | user_2 | ok wait. |
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| 17:03.58 | user_2 | rm, i did wrong broadcast address :-( let me fix and try again. |
| 17:11.26 | user_2 | rm, here the data http://pastebin.com/pbPS8Eda |
| 17:12.08 | user_2 | i correct the broadcast ad replace in cb, but no ping replay the same |
| 17:13.10 | rm | yeah looks okay |
| 17:13.14 | rm | try removing eth1 |
| 17:14.01 | user_2 | ok. |
| 17:14.36 | user_2 | if it can hepls, here the cfdisk of uSD http://pastebin.com/qx44PV8L |
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| 17:17.43 | user_2 | rm, btw, i used cubieboard_hwpack.tar.xz cos my cb is 1GRam |
| 17:17.57 | user_2 | now i restarted it, i wait 3 min |
| 17:21.07 | user_2 | rm, no ping reply from cb :-( |
| 17:21.31 | user_2 | i wonder where is the problem. |
| 17:21.53 | mnemoc | the random mac address usually brings troubles |
| 17:23.20 | user_2 | any suggestions? |
| 17:23.48 | mnemoc | plug the uart/usb and see |
| 17:24.47 | user_2 | mnemoc, Im usung uSD with "server image made by rm, i duno it has uart output. i will try original os on flash. |
| 17:31.17 | user_2 | mnemoc, i get this message in minicom: |
| 17:31.20 | user_2 | HELLO! BOOT0 is starting! |
| 17:31.21 | user_2 | boot0 version : 1.5.0 |
| 17:31.21 | user_2 | initializing SDRAM Fail. |
| 17:31.33 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 17:31.50 | user_2 | bad message, i think :-( |
| 17:31.53 | [7] | where do I get the latest kernel for ubuntu 13.04 on the cubie? |
| 17:32.08 | mnemoc | user_2: there is a good part. it's not even trying to boot form your uSD card |
| 17:32.21 | mnemoc | user_2: boot0 is the bootoader on nand |
| 17:32.26 | wooy | [7]: linux-sunxi @ github |
| 17:32.32 | [7] | is that 3.0.57-custom1+ one that I'm currently running still the most recent one, or is there a newer one? |
| 17:32.35 | [7] | ideally a pre-compiled one? |
| 17:32.51 | user_2 | mnemoc, ok, but afther that no othe message came out |
| 17:32.57 | wooy | i read that 3.4 is also pretty stable / I could be wrong. |
| 17:33.19 | user_2 | mnemoc, minicom is blocket on that line, no other messace seems yto arrive from cubie |
| 17:33.22 | mnemoc | it is. but there is no enough feedback from android people to obsolete sunxi-3.0 yet |
| 17:33.48 | mnemoc | user_2: probably it's hung there. |
| 17:34.04 | mnemoc | user_2: reflashing it might be a good idea |
| 17:34.18 | user_2 | reflashin.... ok |
| 17:34.39 | mnemoc | but that is unrelated to the fact that your cb is ignoring the uSD card |
| 17:34.40 | [7] | is there a precompiled uImage and modules package for sunxi-3.4? |
| 17:34.48 | user_2 | i lost link, mnemoc, can you be so nice guy to point me out the webpage with reflashinh instructions? |
| 17:35.27 | mnemoc | [7]: rm might have |
| 17:35.40 | mnemoc | user_2: i would need to google for it, just like your should ;-) |
| 17:35.58 | user_2 | ok, i will do by my own, thank the same :-) |
| 17:36.02 | [7] | mnemoc: but 3.0.57 is still supposed to work properly with 13.04 userspace? |
| 17:36.16 | rm | [7], http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/kernel |
| 17:36.49 | mnemoc | i suppose ubuntu 13.04 will work on linux 3.0, yes |
| 17:37.16 | [7] | rm: so 3.4.29-20130418.1754-s-rm3+ is what you'd recommend? |
| 17:42.51 | rm | I don't know enough about what exactly you need, to make any recommendations |
| 17:43.22 | rm | you asked for a latest pre-compiled kernel with modules |
| 17:43.43 | rm | I gave you a link to what you asked for |
| 17:43.56 | [7] | well, I mean the recommended one within your set of server kernel images |
| 17:44.20 | [7] | anyway, thanks for the information :) |
| 17:44.29 | [7] | i've installed 3.4.29-20130418.1754-s-rm3+ now |
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| 18:04.45 | user_2 | i see there is LiveSuite to flash the CB, but i dont see frome where to donwload the images :-/ |
| 18:05.03 | mnemoc | http://cubieboard.org/download |
| 18:05.38 | user_2 | thanks! |
| 18:10.47 | user_2 | mnemoc, i see the page, but apparently ther are only android buildroot and cyanoged images... what i have to choose? im looking for a simple image that allow me uart/usb connection, just to check if hardware is dead or alive. |
| 18:17.21 | mnemoc | iirc the recommended image is an android opentv something |
| 18:18.01 | user_2 | ok. i will try it |
| 18:19.30 | user_2 | mnemoc, anyway i think this: if message say "initialing SDRAM fail" i seems to be a hardware failure: in that case, reflash the board i dont know what vantage will give to it... but i will do in any case. |
| 18:19.43 | shineworld | openbox for example |
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| 18:21.26 | user_2 | i take this cubiebox_tvbox_rel2.2.img to be flashed on . |
| 18:23.14 | mnemoc | user_2: if you get the same error after refashing your cb with that image, you have a defective unit |
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| 18:23.40 | user_2 | mnemoc, yes... :-( i will reflash and then report results here. |
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| 18:34.49 | shineworld | user_2, what is your issue ? I've just cleaned my log on xchat |
| 18:35.53 | mnemoc | shineworld: his CB dies on boot0 |
| 18:36.48 | shineworld | uh.... |
| 18:37.26 | shineworld | and he's able to boot from uSD ? |
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| 19:47.21 | shineworld | I don't understand why YouTube app don't works fine in cubieboard |
| 19:47.54 | shineworld | adb report: E/AndroidRuntime( 1661): java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.google.protobuf.CodedOutputStream.a |
| 19:48.20 | shineworld | but in framework/... there is the CodeOutputStream class |
| 19:48.48 | shineworld | ... that there isn't present in AOSP 4.0.4-r1 ... |
| 19:50.32 | shineworld | the CodeOutputStream is heavily used by openbox |
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| 19:55.52 | shineworld | also YouTube on Chrome doesn't work (this time isn't an app obviously) |
| 19:57.49 | user_2 | im using livesuite under windows to flash the cubieboard, but i gel always "not found device". I instlled drivers, and pc do @bing@ sound when i plug in cb. i seled the ilage, plug the cubie, press on sysupdate, then i get that message error. |
| 20:00.45 | user_2 | maybe have I to press the little button under OTC usb port_ if yes, when_ |
| 20:01.12 | shineworld | connect cubie only with otg cable (don't use power cable) |
| 20:02.21 | user_2 | shineworld, yes, i unse usb cable and no more, it connet ppc to cubie in little usb port, otg. |
| 20:02.55 | user_2 | when i pl;ug it, red led on cb turn on,, and pc beeps. |
| 20:03.13 | shineworld | I never used PC version ... |
| 20:03.18 | shineworld | windows I mean |
| 20:04.05 | user_2 | shineworld, this i have, this i use. i see linux version still on prgress.... what do you use to flash cubieboard? |
| 20:04.30 | user_2 | i have also linuxbox, i can use it |
| 20:04.51 | shineworld | is a Virtual Machine ? |
| 20:05.11 | user_2 | no, both win and lin are 2 separate real pc |
| 20:05.36 | user_2 | win XP 32 bit, debian 6.0 64bit |
| 20:05.38 | shineworld | is Linux a 64 bit ? |
| 20:05.44 | user_2 | yes |
| 20:05.48 | shineworld | ok you can use LiveSuit on linux |
| 20:05.52 | shineworld | worked for me |
| 20:06.01 | user_2 | ok.. link_ |
| 20:06.04 | user_2 | ? |
| 20:06.23 | shineworld | a sec I'm watching bash_history |
| 20:06.28 | user_2 | ok |
| 20:09.23 | shineworld | http://linux-sunxi.org/Android |
| 20:09.28 | shineworld | look at end |
| 20:09.49 | user_2 | ok |
| 20:10.24 | user_2 | uh, no andreoid, i want real linuxm, not andreoid |
| 20:11.44 | shineworld | Uh, at end of http://linux-sunxi.org/Android there is info about LiveSuit on linux |
| 20:11.53 | shineworld | *there are |
| 20:12.00 | user_2 | http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit |
| 20:12.02 | shineworld | user_2 are you italina ? |
| 20:12.12 | user_2 | si :-) |
| 20:12.18 | shineworld | move to private chat |
| 20:12.19 | user_2 | yrd |
| 20:12.21 | user_2 | yes |
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| 20:54.01 | Undertasker | Hey, my ADS-B antenna is really good in the fm band. |
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| 21:02.47 | wooy | Undertasker: surfing on the radio waves? |
| 21:04.17 | Undertasker | Yeah, but sorry, wrong chan |
| 21:04.46 | Undertasker | But it works on A10, too |
| 21:18.44 | user_2 | the helll!!! livesuit present here http://linux-sunxi.org/Android sai it is not compatible with debian!!! WTF?!?!??! |
| 21:20.33 | Undertasker | That's why you never should use closed source crap |
| 21:20.49 | federico3 | yep |
| 21:20.58 | user_2 | Undertasker, so what i hav to use? |
| 21:21.34 | Undertasker | Closed source rap, because there are no open source tools. You bought the wrong hardware |
| 21:22.52 | user_2 | Undertasker, i need to flash cubieboard. If you have suggestion, u are wellcome. if you can only regret me, you can hold your words, thanks, |
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| 21:23.49 | Undertasker | Well, use windows. I don't like that either, but the windows versions work |
| 21:24.33 | Undertasker | It's rather unpleasant having to use windows to flash linux, but, well... |
| 21:24.50 | user_2 | Undertasker, unfortunately, livesuite doent work on my own. i start tu suspect cb hardware fault, cos at start i teceive on my usart console message i:initializing sdram fail": |
| 21:25.18 | user_2 | so, i moe to linux version to try also it, but i fallen in that crap advive that debian is unsupported |
| 21:26.15 | user_2 | they support deviant distro as ubuntu but not the original one as debvian is... jesus, what crazy people out there |
| 21:26.18 | Undertasker | What does happen if you boot from sd? |
| 21:26.53 | user_2 | Undertasker, i have not hdmi monitor (on the go to buy, anyway) so in cant see video output. |
| 21:27.03 | user_2 | u see im in bad situation. |
| 21:27.44 | Undertasker | Can you ssh into after sd boot? |
| 21:28.15 | Undertasker | BTW, you don't need hdmi, it also works with a hdmi to vga converter |
| 21:29.08 | user_2 | no, i cant. i used the 'server' image developer by rm... no, it DOES NOT work with converter, already tryed. stupid cubieboard video driver need 70 or 1080 hdmi, (see cubie FAQ) |
| 21:29.20 | Undertasker | Also, if you have a router, cb should get an ip address from it |
| 21:29.49 | Undertasker | You should see it on your routers html page |
| 21:30.24 | Undertasker | My vga converter works perfectly with cb. Android and Linux. |
| 21:30.56 | user_2 | look, i flashjed 2GB uSD withserver version, mount 2nd partition, modified with fixed ip /etc/networ/interfaces file save, preplug and boot... mbut it doen not ping (i plug crossed eternet cabel to my pc) |
| 21:32.06 | Undertasker | Then it's not easy to tell |
| 21:32.33 | Undertasker | maybe using an image that does switch on the cb's LED |
| 21:33.03 | Undertasker | What VGA converter do you have? |
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