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| 00:34.33 | maciel310 | anyone know if it is possible to modify uboot to boot off of a usb flash drive? |
| 00:34.59 | maciel310 | I don't have a microusb handy but I have a ton of flash drives, and having to use LiveSuit constantly is getting a little tedious |
| 00:35.32 | maciel310 | r/microusb/microsd card/ |
| 00:36.50 | lunra | Hmm, the Beagleboard has USB boot, but that might be in its boot ROM. Moment. |
| 00:37.53 | lunra | Yes, it's possible |
| 00:38.30 | maciel310 | awesome. will that work out of the box or would I need to recompile uboot? |
| 00:38.45 | lunra | Just trying to work that out :) |
| 00:38.53 | maciel310 | thanks! |
| 00:39.08 | lunra | Do you have a serial cable? |
| 00:39.11 | maciel310 | yeah |
| 00:39.30 | lunra | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Booting_Linux_kernel_using_U-Boot#USB_Storage see if it works |
| 00:39.41 | lunra | your kernel will need to be recompiled to look for the USB drive |
| 00:40.08 | lunra | (yes, I realise that is for the beagle/etc -- should apply here, too) |
| 00:42.08 | lunra | scratch that. It'll need the root= argument passed to it somehow, which is possible with some other u-boot setting iirc |
| 00:42.28 | xenoxaos | bootargs |
| 00:42.38 | lunra | yep |
| 00:43.03 | lunra | setenv bootargs root=/dev/ ... hmm, what would a flash drive be? /dev/sda? |
| 00:43.13 | xenoxaos | most likely |
| 00:43.20 | lunra | I'm actually saying all this blind, I'm still waiting for my cubieboard to arrive ;) |
| 00:43.29 | lunra | (sorry!) |
| 00:43.36 | xenoxaos | oh |
| 00:44.30 | lunra | anyone know if it's okay to use a serial adapter that seems to use 5V levels? |
| 00:44.45 | xenoxaos | i wouldnt |
| 00:44.56 | maciel310 | haha no problem at all, thanks for the info! I'm not in front of my cubie right now so I can't test it out yet, but I'll report back in an hour or so with the results |
| 00:45.01 | xenoxaos | but you can do whatever you want |
| 00:45.20 | lunra | Well, any idea if the Rx pin is 5V tolerant? |
| 00:45.30 | lunra | maaaybe that's in the datasheet, I'll look ;) |
| 00:45.36 | xenoxaos | probably not |
| 00:46.07 | maciel310 | based on what I've seen I believe it is, so long as you don't connect the VCC line. Several of the serial guides reference not connecting that pin in case it is 5v |
| 00:46.33 | maciel310 | mine has both 3.3v and 5v supplies tho, so not sure what my rx/tx levels are |
| 00:47.04 | maciel310 | I'd assume if you have an adapter that just has a 5v vcc that its data lines would be 5v as well |
| 00:47.19 | lunra | That's what I'm thinking... |
| 00:47.54 | lunra | Maybe I should just spend the extra money on making another shopify order. What I did was only look at the 'recent products' list, and didn't realise that the serial cable was indeed available >_> |
| 00:48.38 | xenoxaos | i have multiple 5v, 3v3, 1v8 serial adapters |
| 00:49.36 | maciel310 | yeah I probably wouldn't risk it myself. suck to brick a $60 computer to avoid having to buy a $5 part |
| 00:50.59 | lunra | Yeah. The thing that makes me not want to order again is the $10 shipping for that $5 part XD |
| 00:52.34 | maciel310 | haha yeah, that kills it. I got mine off ebay, like $3 plus free shipping (US at least). Something like this iirc http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-To-RS232-TTL-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-Module-Converter-Adapter-5V-3-3V-Output-/370724353121?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5650e4b461 |
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| 00:55.59 | lunra | Hmm, thanks! |
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| 01:00.22 | maciel310 | no problem. ebay is usually the first place I go for simple parts like that. not always the highest quality there is but definitely save a few bucks especially on shipping |
| 01:01.45 | lunra | I've found ebay to be a lot of trouble in the past, so I usually go to dx.com, heh. But I can't tell with their USB serial devices whether they're 3v3, even if they do provide 3v3 power lines and are PL2303 just like the cubieboard serial adapter |
| 01:02.24 | lunra | I guess, being $3, there's not much to lose :D |
| 01:04.44 | maciel310 | yeah, unfortunately hard to tell based on the listing. I was directed to that line of serial adapters for another 3v3 board, and I haven't fried my cubie yet so should be fine haha |
| 01:31.48 | maciel310 | thanks again for the info lunra. I'm off to give it a shot, I'll make sure to come back and update on my progress if I get it working. |
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| 01:35.07 | jelly-home | lunra: this one works on my cubieboard http://dx.com/p/pl2303hx-usb-to-rs232-ttl-converter-adapter-module-164590 |
| 01:35.59 | jelly-home | and the power line should not be connected anyway |
| 01:38.26 | lunra | Thanks jelly-home! We'll see how the one maciel310 linked goes though (already ordered, hehe) |
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| 04:02.52 | iliketomake | Hi all, I just ordered my cubieboard! |
| 04:03.36 | iliketomake | Every time I think its name I thinks cutieboard instead. |
| 04:03.41 | iliketomake | Strange |
| 04:04.36 | iliketomake | Oh and I also order the case and one of those Motorola Atrix Laptop docks |
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| 05:04.58 | dongs | everytime I think of it as dongieboard. |
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| 06:24.05 | mtr | hi all, generating a livesuit image somehow fails here, after flashing onto the device the serial console says "c:\linux\linux.ini not found" and finally "No OS to boot" |
| 06:24.30 | mtr | I followed http://linux-sunxi.org/Building_Android_TV_image, building on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 |
| 06:25.30 | mtr | using the github repo https://github.com/cubieboard |
| 06:25.57 | mtr | are there known issues with the pack tools on Ubuntu? |
| 06:36.25 | shineworld | I'm using it without problems |
| 06:36.50 | shineworld | same configurations than you only xubuntu instead of ubuntu, but that don't change nothing |
| 06:37.23 | shineworld | however I prefer to put all on SD at moment so I've used LiveSuit only few times |
| 06:42.47 | shineworld | you can try to run your build OS to SD to check if all works fine or something goes wrong here |
| 06:43.02 | shineworld | if you would I've a script to do that |
| 06:44.37 | mtr | like in http://linux-sunxi.org/Boot_Android_from_SdCard ? |
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| 06:48.49 | shineworld | in upon link you start from a livesuit IMG file |
| 06:49.11 | shineworld | in my script you start from openbox / opentv make result |
| 06:49.35 | shineworld | so you don't need to run tools/pack-cmd.sh |
| 06:58.23 | mtr | shineworld: ok, thanks, yes, would be great if I could check with your script as well |
| 06:58.47 | shineworld | I'm putting it on dropbox |
| 06:58.55 | shineworld | a sec |
| 07:02.50 | shineworld | https://www.dropbox.com/s/j9c0k7lqt4i55la/cubietools.tar.gz |
| 07:02.54 | shineworld | the use is simple: |
| 07:03.00 | shineworld | - enter in su |
| 07:03.27 | shineworld | - with nano or other editor change DEV=/dev/sdX to your SD device name |
| 07:04.25 | shineworld | - with nano or other editor change BUILD_PATH=/home/shine/android/build/openbox/out/target/product/cubieboard to meet your android build out path |
| 07:04.52 | shineworld | - in support put your script.bin (there are mine at moment) |
| 07:05.14 | shineworld | - run all with ./cubiecard.sh |
| 07:05.20 | shineworld | That's all folks |
| 07:05.54 | shineworld | in partitions.txt you can edit your partition sizes for /data /system etc |
| 07:05.59 | mtr | shineworld: cool, straightforw3ard, many thanks |
| 07:06.19 | shineworld | I've do it for a 4GB card (I'm using a 8GB) |
| 07:07.07 | shineworld | sorry if script isn't so good, I'm on *nix world by some months after 23 years of Windows programming |
| 07:07.27 | shineworld | where script are totally unknowed matter :) |
| 07:09.14 | shineworld | first time could be interesting you run manually each command to learn what do and how work |
| 07:10.25 | mtr | your script looks good, fairly simple when one knows where to place which .bin file |
| 07:11.44 | mtr | I wonder what these livesuit and pack tools are doing, looks like emulating an ancient 16 bit dos boot environment... |
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| 07:12.27 | shineworld | I don't know, I've saw c:\... bla bla bla during pack-cmd.sh but is terribly ugly to read how script for me |
| 07:13.01 | mtr | +1 |
| 07:13.28 | shineworld | however I can run it on my openbox and put it somewhere so you can try it |
| 07:14.06 | shineworld | I've a build with almost all original (some modules was added) |
| 07:14.30 | shineworld | I can catch the script output so you can match with your |
| 07:15.16 | shineworld | just time to do a repo-status and watch all modifications ... |
| 07:31.24 | shineworld | mtr, I'm pushing a build.log + img to dropbox if you would to try |
| 07:31.46 | shineworld | just time to download, I've a very slow net (like all in my f...ed country) |
| 07:35.41 | mtr | shineworld: the pack-cm.sh build.log would be interesting, just to see if there are differences which might give a clue whats wrong with my packed image |
| 07:36.18 | shineworld | 34mins left... |
| 07:36.40 | shineworld | damn 34mins to upload 300Mb... poor Italy |
| 07:36.46 | mtr | np, I'll try later, my link is horrible slow as well... |
| 07:37.23 | shineworld | where you come from ? |
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| 08:03.34 | mtr | shineworld: .de |
| 08:04.42 | mtr | shineworld: living in an area with low bandwidth adsl :( |
| 08:13.55 | shineworld | me too... the only fast ways is WiMax of to be lucky to live near some fiber served place but is very expensive |
| 08:14.46 | shineworld | upload say yet 23 mins ... |
| 08:16.43 | shineworld | that is really amazing for a 32E/month ADSL service: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2666112656.png |
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| 08:24.01 | mtr | shineworld: my android img copied to the sd-card seems to work, thanks for your script |
| 08:24.24 | shineworld | good to know ! |
| 08:24.38 | mtr | so I suspect these myterious allwinner binary pack tools ... |
| 08:24.38 | shineworld | the only thing I've to fix is how /sdcard is mounted |
| 08:24.54 | shineworld | 75% of download |
| 08:25.11 | shineworld | if you remain here I can write you the link |
| 08:25.14 | shineworld | a moment ... |
| 08:25.56 | shineworld | the link is that : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8vmkvagxho53k5p/3EBXGDHwZu |
| 08:26.08 | shineworld | at moment the img file is downloading so you can't see it yet |
| 08:26.36 | shineworld | differences by repo on github: |
| 08:26.50 | shineworld | - compiled with touchscreen module (resistive) |
| 08:27.01 | shineworld | - enabled full compilation of TSCalibration2 |
| 08:27.41 | shineworld | - modified DisplayManager so it put in log any function calls (I'm trying to solve a bug) don't matter for your test because use of DisplayManager and related log are rare |
| 08:28.07 | mtr | my changes are related to the wifi driver, I rebuild the kernel to include the rt2x00 modules |
| 08:28.21 | shineworld | wow I need that |
| 08:28.31 | shineworld | have you the cubieboard_defconfig ? |
| 08:28.55 | shineworld | I would like to use a Ralink USB wifi key from asus |
| 08:28.58 | mtr | did not do much with android yet, seems the config needs still some tweeks... |
| 08:29.21 | shineworld | I've tried to enable rt2x00 but not worked |
| 08:29.34 | shineworld | have you god good results ? works ? |
| 08:30.10 | mtr | basically yes, the rt2x00usb and rt2x00lib modules are included in the image |
| 08:30.41 | shineworld | My usb key is an ASUSTEK USBN53 which use rt2x00 modules (I've catch then sniffing what does linux when inserted on USB) |
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| 08:30.45 | mtr | android tries to load rt2x00usb, which fails because of dependendies to rt2x00lib.lo |
| 08:31.14 | shineworld | so... what have you do to fix all ? |
| 08:31.28 | mtr | that's what I saw scrolling by on the serial console a few minutes ago |
| 08:31.29 | shineworld | I'm noob in some questions... |
| 08:31.48 | shineworld | ah you haven't fixed yet |
| 08:32.34 | mtr | no, module loading needs to be fixed first, there might be other issues later then... |
| 08:32.57 | shineworld | when you will be able to run wifi can you write 2 lines of how-to ? |
| 08:33.26 | mtr | yes, sure |
| 08:33.37 | mtr | I can't continue now, have to look into this later/next days |
| 08:34.01 | shineworld | you have my email-address on private chat |
| 08:34.03 | shineworld | thank you |
| 08:34.37 | shineworld | 85% |
| 08:35.16 | StMichel | It'd be better if you posted your outcomes on the mailing list or cubieforum; I believe there are many people with the same problem |
| 08:36.47 | StMichel | I noticed also that the rt2x00 modules were missing, but because I could not get a cross-compiling environment to work and didn't bother to compile kernel on cubie, I left the matter due to other hurries |
| 08:37.33 | StMichel | So it would be great if you are willing to share your results commonly |
| 08:38.59 | shineworld | I've compiled them and obtained the modules but there is something wrong on android and they don't run fine |
| 08:39.13 | shineworld | Or I've mistake something... |
| 08:39.39 | shineworld | Unfortunately I can't, at this moment, spend time to that because I've another big issue: |
| 08:39.57 | shineworld | - openbox don't rotate display to portrait in any way |
| 08:40.25 | shineworld | I've tried any mode : manifest, with activity code... the view remain ALWAYS in landscape |
| 08:40.53 | shineworld | I wasn't able yet to find why, also watching in sources and comparing them with AOSP |
| 08:41.16 | shineworld | I'm a beginner so much of matter in code is mystery... |
| 08:41.35 | StMichel | Heh, same here. |
| 08:41.59 | shineworld | My boss "require" that display switch to portrait but I don't know "how" to fix that |
| 08:44.13 | shineworld | I guess is something on SurfaceView... but is only a "guess" |
| 08:44.58 | shineworld | mtr, 90% |
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| 11:21.44 | rm | http://cubieboard.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/boxes_of_cb_sample.jpg |
| 11:21.46 | rm | ha |
| 11:21.54 | rm | a picture of my 'cubieboard case' :) |
| 11:23.40 | rm | cut openings for all the connectors, then just put the "lid" (pictured to the right) on top to prevent dust -> done :) |
| 11:37.53 | buZz | hehehe nice |
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| 12:21.28 | SquirrelCZECH | nah |
| 12:21.30 | SquirrelCZECH | that's bad |
| 12:21.58 | SquirrelCZECH | can't find a way to use cubieboard + webcam for realtime video stream :-/ |
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| 12:25.34 | buZz | mjpegstreamer |
| 12:25.55 | buZz | http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjpg-streamer/ |
| 12:27.13 | SquirrelCZECH | wow |
| 12:27.18 | SquirrelCZECH | just know I got 30 fps |
| 12:27.22 | SquirrelCZECH | with some settings :D |
| 12:27.24 | buZz | ;) |
| 12:27.30 | buZz | settings are awesome |
| 12:28.32 | SquirrelCZECH | yes |
| 12:28.36 | SquirrelCZECH | but I've got delay :-/ |
| 12:29.07 | user | SquirrelCZECH, write a little howto an place in on cubieboard website (note: delay in video reporduction of 1-2 sencod is normal) |
| 12:29.33 | SquirrelCZECH | :-/ |
| 12:29.38 | SquirrelCZECH | wants to get under 500ms |
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| 12:30.09 | user | SquirrelCZECH is going to fail. |
| 12:30.22 | SquirrelCZECH | got backup plan |
| 12:30.41 | user | good for SquirrelCZECH :-) |
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| 12:33.53 | SquirrelCZECH | one question |
| 12:34.12 | SquirrelCZECH | if cubie doesn't have enough power source... it tends to crash or lover computing power? |
| 12:35.29 | buZz | crash |
| 12:35.30 | SquirrelCZECH | powers it with the webcam from USB-port of laptop |
| 12:35.33 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 12:35.44 | SquirrelCZECH | os if I add "proper" power source, it doesn't change i thing? :-/ |
| 12:35.46 | SquirrelCZECH | *a thing |
| 12:36.58 | krimpsok | I couldn't power the cubie and my 2.5 hdd with only the usb plug |
| 12:37.18 | user | SquirrelCZECH, u can use a "Y" cable to get 500mA from 2 different usb ports. |
| 12:37.54 | buZz | USB port on a motorola lapdock happily feeds >1A :D |
| 12:38.07 | user | ine simgle usb port is not enoug to power cubieboard ahd the hdd connected to te cubie |
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| 12:38.33 | buZz | it is if the USB port is not following spec |
| 12:38.40 | user | my laptop cant, i need to use 2 usb ports. |
| 12:38.45 | SquirrelCZECH | user: in final project, everything is going to be powere from 6A power source |
| 12:38.55 | SquirrelCZECH | which will power cubieboard, wifi adapter, and webcam separatedly :-) |
| 12:40.35 | SquirrelCZECH | is going to make tons of cables |
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| 13:25.46 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 13:25.56 | SquirrelCZECH | 30 fps still for one hour |
| 13:26.02 | SquirrelCZECH | nothing like memory leak I suppose :D |
| 13:27.50 | shineworld | if power goes low my cubie freeze and all stop |
| 13:29.06 | shineworld | SquirrelCZECH, what is your configuration ? |
| 13:30.20 | SquirrelCZECH | shineworld: cubie + webcam |
| 13:30.24 | SquirrelCZECH | over standart USB port |
| 13:30.27 | SquirrelCZECH | 1GB cubieboard :-) |
| 13:30.36 | SquirrelCZECH | (powered over standart usb port) |
| 13:31.09 | shineworld | OS ? |
| 13:31.44 | SquirrelCZECH | archlinux |
| 13:31.53 | shineworld | thanks ! |
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| 13:56.41 | lunra | the FM inputs are really -just- 24bit audio DACs right? Anyone used them? |
| 13:56.47 | lunra | *ADCs |
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| 14:07.40 | SquirrelCZECH | FU |
| 14:07.54 | SquirrelCZECH | restarted the same command and it dropped to 11 fps :-/ |
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| 14:12.48 | SquirrelCZECH | I DONT GET IT |
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| 14:12.55 | SquirrelCZECH | restarted, and still dropped to 11 fps :-/ |
| 14:13.25 | shineworld | uhm... a big step from previous 30 fps |
| 14:13.53 | shineworld | Actually I never tried deeply cubie with movies |
| 14:13.59 | SquirrelCZECH | yes |
| 14:14.06 | SquirrelCZECH | but I can't figure out why it dropped |
| 14:14.17 | shineworld | I've saw youtube run very badly and I've leaved any test |
| 14:14.28 | shineworld | performace settings ? |
| 14:14.35 | SquirrelCZECH | I didn't change a thing |
| 14:14.44 | SquirrelCZECH | that's the point why I am so suprised :D |
| 14:14.45 | shineworld | try to cpu cpuperf |
| 14:15.03 | SquirrelCZECH | only thing that I tried was zerolatency option for ffmpeg |
| 14:15.06 | SquirrelCZECH | it dropped to 10fp |
| 14:15.08 | SquirrelCZECH | fps |
| 14:15.13 | lunra | The reason I ask is because FMINL and R are the only inputs broken out to connectors afaik |
| 14:15.19 | SquirrelCZECH | so I removed it and now I am on 11 :-/ |
| 14:15.33 | lunra | yeah, definitely check your clock |
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| 14:17.26 | SquirrelCZECH | removed it from USB connector of different computer |
| 14:17.38 | SquirrelCZECH | I know that it's not so easy to get 500mA from CP |
| 14:17.39 | SquirrelCZECH | *PC |
| 14:18.32 | SquirrelCZECH | 12 FPS again :-/ |
| 14:18.34 | SquirrelCZECH | I don't get it |
| 14:18.37 | SquirrelCZECH | I really don't get it |
| 14:26.20 | shineworld | what say cpu info ? |
| 14:26.29 | shineworld | have you set it for performance |
| 14:26.33 | SquirrelCZECH | yes |
| 14:26.41 | SquirrelCZECH | but it can't anything to set |
| 14:26.48 | SquirrelCZECH | because I didn't changed a thing between steps |
| 14:26.54 | shineworld | where do you get the video ? SD ? USB ? |
| 14:27.02 | SquirrelCZECH | USB webcam |
| 14:27.26 | SquirrelCZECH | got there older class 4 sd card |
| 14:31.51 | SquirrelCZECH | fuuuuu |
| 14:31.52 | shineworld | I'm using a class 4 too without speed problems... ... |
| 14:31.59 | SquirrelCZECH | reinstalled ffmpeg |
| 14:32.04 | SquirrelCZECH | and it dropped to 8 fps |
| 14:32.11 | shineworld | locking at tty boot times is more fast than same in nand |
| 14:32.40 | shineworld | you are fall in a nightmare :P |
| 14:32.40 | SquirrelCZECH | because fuck you.... (sorry dudes) |
| 14:32.44 | SquirrelCZECH | I know |
| 14:32.47 | SquirrelCZECH | bud I don't get |
| 14:32.51 | SquirrelCZECH | I didn't change the command |
| 14:33.42 | SquirrelCZECH | turns it off and waits if it cool down after he cames back .... (3 hours) |
| 14:33.54 | SquirrelCZECH | if it's going to be ok -> need cooling, otherwise I don't know :-/ |
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| 18:27.08 | SquirrelCZECH | I dont'get it |
| 18:27.20 | SquirrelCZECH | around 14:00 I've got 30 fps in streaming |
| 18:27.25 | SquirrelCZECH | now it dropeed to 6fp |
| 18:27.27 | SquirrelCZECH | fps |
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| 18:35.32 | SquirrelCZECH | I don't get it |
| 18:35.47 | SquirrelCZECH | I've got 6fps... why? why it dropped so much? |
| 18:35.57 | SquirrelCZECH | cpufreq is set to maximum :-/ |
| 18:44.58 | wooy | SquirrelCZECH: its getting dark outside? |
| 18:45.42 | SquirrelCZECH | yes |
| 18:45.45 | SquirrelCZECH | but |
| 18:46.02 | SquirrelCZECH | it this dropping started around 15:30 when I stopped stream |
| 18:46.08 | SquirrelCZECH | tried little modification |
| 18:46.48 | SquirrelCZECH | it didn't worked, so I turned on the original |
| 18:46.54 | SquirrelCZECH | and it dropped to 14 fps :-/ |
| 18:46.58 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 18:47.05 | SquirrelCZECH | cpu is on 5% ?????? |
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| 18:48.32 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 18:48.40 | SquirrelCZECH | crond wants 93% |
| 18:48.46 | SquirrelCZECH | what the hell is he doing? |
| 18:48.59 | Swat- | strace it |
| 18:55.04 | jelly-home | heh, I completely forgot how slow serial port io is... testing sata speed with ddrescue was slow because it refreshes the output the whole time |
| 18:55.17 | SquirrelCZECH | :D |
| 18:55.20 | SquirrelCZECH | hmm |
| 18:55.23 | SquirrelCZECH | question is |
| 18:55.26 | SquirrelCZECH | do I really need crond? |
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| 18:59.04 | Euro1 | where can i find the kernel sources for the debian wheezy server? |
| 18:59.14 | Euro1 | i want to compile kernel modules for it |
| 19:03.44 | SquirrelCZECH | hoh |
| 19:03.49 | SquirrelCZECH | it was the light |
| 19:04.02 | SquirrelCZECH | hates when something tries to be smarter than him, without telling him |
| 19:27.04 | wooy | Euro1: http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/cross-compile-kernel |
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