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| 04:19.34 | A124 | What network traffic at what CPU load can Cubie handle? |
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| 05:07.35 | codertux | A124: my cubie can download torrents at ~6-7MB/s (cpu tops at 100%) |
| 05:07.48 | codertux | using transmission-daemon |
| 05:09.25 | A124 | codertux: Thanks. |
| 05:09.33 | A124 | What I did I benchmarked RPi |
| 05:09.56 | A124 | RX is fine at full speed, while.. Tx is 6-8MByte/s |
| 05:10.15 | A124 | Bottleneck was CPU which handles TCP traffic |
| 05:11.05 | lunra | Wow... I'm actually shocked that the bottleneck was the CPU assembling packets. How did you find this out? :) |
| 05:11.06 | codertux | A124: I'll try an iperf test on the cubie when I finish compiling xbmc. I'll ping you if you're around |
| 05:16.23 | dongs | lol, torrents |
| 05:16.29 | dongs | what the fuck did I walk into 1996 or something |
| 05:18.08 | lunra | "Programmer Bram Cohen designed the protocol in April 2001 and released the first available version on July 2, 2001." --wikipedia |
| 05:18.11 | lunra | So no. |
| 05:21.25 | A124 | codertux: I use netio |
| 05:21.56 | A124 | Also, I'm 24/7 online and Cubie in my permanent channel |
| 05:22.50 | A124 | lunra: How did I found out.. testing raw traffic and monitoring of resources |
| 05:23.18 | rm | A124, there are some issues with the onboard ethernet |
| 05:23.32 | A124 | lunra: Even on desktop single core PC @ 3GHz it can take 30% without problem on 100Mbit |
| 05:23.43 | rm | it is slow at downloads for some people, and generally slow at everything after a warm-reboot for others |
| 05:23.47 | A124 | rm: Don't have cubie yet.. money :P |
| 05:23.53 | lunra | ah, so we're not entirely sure where the bottleneck is, but we know that there is one, and on Tx traffic |
| 05:24.02 | A124 | rm: Interesting |
| 05:24.03 | rm | I am using my CB with an external USB gigabit NIC |
| 05:24.15 | A124 | lunra: I was sure |
| 05:24.34 | rm | was downloading some large files recently where the CB does routing, it easily did 75+75 mbit (full duplex) at 50% CPU load |
| 05:24.38 | A124 | I sair resource monitoring.. what does imply on that that I'm not sure? |
| 05:25.07 | A124 | rm: USB Gigabit? |
| 05:25.28 | A124 | rm: Which one? |
| 05:26.00 | lunra | (just be aware that USB will saturate before ethernet will) |
| 05:26.20 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gigabit-lan-USB-2-0-ethernet-adapter/509420709.html |
| 05:26.20 | lunra | *gigabit ethernel |
| 05:26.45 | lunra | Makes me wonder if the driver is crap |
| 05:27.04 | rm | which driver? |
| 05:27.14 | lunra | The cubieboard's ethernet driver |
| 05:27.20 | lunra | the one that comes with it |
| 05:27.35 | rm | yes, in case of the onboard ethernet that's most likely the case |
| 05:27.51 | lunra | oh wait, A123's bench was on Pi. Sorry |
| 05:27.55 | rm | and here are my experiences with the external NIC: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/cubieboard/3-XvhQvddQI |
| 05:28.02 | A124 | lunra: Bad nick |
| 05:28.10 | lunra | Oops. Sorry A124! |
| 05:28.12 | rm | there are some problems, but it does up to 280 Mbit on a LAN in one direction |
| 05:28.18 | A124 | lunra: It has nothing much to do with driver |
| 05:28.24 | A124 | It's CPU intensive task |
| 05:28.41 | lunra | Yes, calculating all those CRCs |
| 05:28.51 | A124 | That's why servers have dedicated one purposse processors just only for network |
| 05:28.54 | A124 | CRC lol |
| 05:28.58 | A124 | that's not a problem |
| 05:29.54 | A124 | rm thanks for link |
| 05:30.55 | lunra | Assuming that the RAM can handle a 32bit transaction at every clock, that's 550 million * 32 = 17.1875 gigabit, so it shouldn't be a memory bottleneck |
| 05:31.58 | lunra | oops, it's a 480MHz RAM clock, not 550 |
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| 05:32.40 | rm | it varies |
| 05:32.54 | rm | 360 MHz on some devices |
| 05:33.26 | rm | 408 and 480 on others |
| 05:33.32 | rm | oh right, we're in #cubieboard |
| 05:33.35 | rm | 480 on it |
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| 05:37.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | rm: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xierteks-Hawking-HGU1-10-100-1000-Gigabit-USB-2-0-network-adapter-/320878276275?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item4ab5d5eeb3 |
| 05:38.29 | \\Mr_C\\ | i wouldnt buy some generic crap |
| 05:38.43 | \\Mr_C\\ | get that hawking same price |
| 05:40.13 | rm | yeah mkay |
| 05:40.25 | rm | come back to us when it shows up as some unseen-yet-before crap in lsusb |
| 05:40.35 | rm | asking "which module handles this device" |
| 05:41.01 | rm | or "I got 'linux drivers' but they're for x86, that should be no problem right" |
| 05:41.25 | rm | more to the point |
| 05:41.31 | rm | do you know what chipset is in it |
| 05:41.39 | rm | do you know if it's supported by the linux kernel |
| 05:41.55 | rm | I took a shot and posted my experience to the ML so you can buy the same model and expect no surprises |
| 05:42.01 | rm | well no problem buy Hawking |
| 05:42.07 | rm | maybe you will verify it works too |
| 05:42.14 | rm | and that will be generally good to know |
| 05:42.20 | rm | ...or maybe it doesn't |
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| 06:12.12 | A124 | Generic crap... is most often the best lol |
| 06:20.49 | \\Mr_C\\ | very well |
| 06:21.03 | \\Mr_C\\ | that is true |
| 06:21.14 | \\Mr_C\\ | as i buy lots of generic from walmart great-value |
| 06:21.28 | \\Mr_C\\ | sorry for my stupidity |
| 06:22.45 | \\Mr_C\\ | newer is probably better as well, being that i cant find the chipset for that hawking |
| 06:23.22 | A124 | \\Mr_C\\: More in sense of suport |
| 06:23.38 | A124 | Most often it's one chip used in tons of products |
| 06:23.59 | A124 | But if you buy some "better" there might not be the standard one. |
| 06:24.14 | A124 | So better be sure with generic, which will most likely have those |
| 06:25.21 | \\Mr_C\\ | im so anxious |
| 06:25.28 | \\Mr_C\\ | been waiting for my cubiebox to get here |
| 06:25.32 | \\Mr_C\\ | cubieboard |
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| 06:39.41 | lunra | Damn! Now the serial cable is available on shopify again. |
| 06:42.55 | lunra | Anyone know roughly how long DHL or Fedex takes from China to AU? I tried using their tools but they asked for specific postcodes, which I don't have to the cubieboard end |
| 06:45.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | huh? |
| 06:46.06 | \\Mr_C\\ | i ordered mine last week |
| 06:46.10 | \\Mr_C\\ | they had the serial cable |
| 06:46.44 | lunra | I guarantee that it was not there when I ordered. Only the simple case, cubieboard, and wifi dongle |
| 06:46.59 | lunra | Perhaps it is a Firefox issue, I'm using Chrome right now |
| 06:47.20 | \\Mr_C\\ | when you ordered yours, how long did it take to arive? |
| 06:47.42 | lunra | I ordered it last night |
| 06:47.57 | lunra | *oh and the 5V 2A PSU was there |
| 06:52.17 | \\Mr_C\\ | have you ordered from there before? |
| 06:52.24 | lunra | Nope. |
| 06:52.52 | \\Mr_C\\ | i hope mine comes this week |
| 06:53.03 | lunra | Er, let me explain better. I won't be ordering a serial cable now. I ordered a cubieboard last night, and I'm looking for a rough estimate of delivery time when it ships |
| 06:53.05 | \\Mr_C\\ | i ordered it wednesday last week |
| 06:53.20 | \\Mr_C\\ | same here |
| 06:53.34 | lunra | I hope yours comes soon :) |
| 06:53.38 | \\Mr_C\\ | me too |
| 06:53.42 | \\Mr_C\\ | im going madd |
| 06:53.49 | lunra | Got project ideas? |
| 06:54.13 | \\Mr_C\\ | not as of yet |
| 06:54.35 | \\Mr_C\\ | just a toy to play with linux for now |
| 06:54.38 | lunra | I'm building a robot :). The plan was to put two cubieboards in it, but that's not going to fit the power budget |
| 06:55.02 | lunra | So I'll have to *shudder* optimise my code! |
| 06:56.02 | \\Mr_C\\ | ive been messing with the raspberry pi, but i want more power, so someone turned me onto the cubie |
| 06:56.23 | lunra | Beware that the RPi actually has more floating point capability |
| 06:56.39 | lunra | (But the cubie of course has better integer / control performance) |
| 06:57.01 | lunra | But most of the lag that you'll experience using it as a desktop or a server will be disk lag |
| 06:57.30 | lunra | (So utilise that SATA ^_^) |
| 06:57.44 | \\Mr_C\\ | i dont use much gui/desktop stuff |
| 06:57.50 | \\Mr_C\\ | i like the shell |
| 06:58.01 | lunra | Are you new to Linux? |
| 06:58.21 | \\Mr_C\\ | well, been messing with it for a few years, but still knoob stage |
| 06:58.54 | lunra | I see :) |
| 06:59.07 | \\Mr_C\\ | ive messed with it about 15 years ago, but alot changed |
| 06:59.14 | \\Mr_C\\ | maybe 20 years |
| 06:59.16 | \\Mr_C\\ | i cant remember |
| 06:59.33 | lunra | 1993 would be 20 years, that would have been very very early Linux |
| 07:00.04 | lunra | So to have used it back then is admirable |
| 07:00.08 | \\Mr_C\\ | when redhat was about the only thing i could find at the time and it was free |
| 07:00.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | i think early slackware |
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| 07:01.20 | \\Mr_C\\ | i think it was the time when 3dfx just released gl |
| 07:01.25 | \\Mr_C\\ | and glquake came out |
| 07:01.33 | \\Mr_C\\ | thats when i messed with it |
| 07:02.39 | user | in cubieboad FAQ i can read: QUESTION: What displays does cubieboard support? Can I connect my VGA/DVI/HDMI/LVDS/DP/.. display to cubieboard? ANSWER: While A10 comes with support for VGA/TV/LVDS/HDMI only HDMI connetor is actualy provided on cubieboard out of the box. HDMI is DVI compatible but you need recent kernel to use most DVI screens. bla bla. Well, I have an DVI monitor 1440x900 and CB doesn't work with it. Someone tested recent ker |
| 07:02.39 | user | nel? does it works woth that resolution? please tell me |
| 07:04.37 | lunra | What system image are you using? |
| 07:04.55 | lunra | It's possible you've used one configured for 1080p and your monitor is rejecting that |
| 07:05.26 | user | lunra, i used origian one, no works. i updated some time later, no work. afair, it wasr linux 3.4.5 (not sure of that) |
| 07:05.58 | jelly-home | user: a recent kernel with EDID support should make it work with most DVI monitors that have correct EDID info |
| 07:06.00 | user | btw, maonitor is ok, and raspberry work on in |
| 07:06.32 | user | jelly-home, can you kindly point me out the link to the new image to flasch on internale 4GB chip? |
| 07:07.11 | user | i prefere to avoid to buy a dedicated hdmi monitor :-( |
| 07:07.17 | jelly-home | user: I can't, I'm using... berryboot and their kernel for the time being |
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| 07:08.01 | user | jelly-home, berryboot? if it make me to have CP working on DVI, it is ok. link to howto? |
| 07:08.30 | jelly-home | CP? http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot_a10 |
| 07:08.49 | user | cp<--typo . i mean CB (CubieBoard) |
| 07:09.47 | user | i see link. it isntall on SD. I wish to have linux on soldered 4gb flash chip on CB. |
| 07:10.35 | user | i can istann un SD, but: there are later a way to move OS to 4gb flash? i prefere to avoid SD and work on flash only. |
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| 07:21.40 | BigWhoop[DE] | user you can make you distro work on SD card an then copy it to NAND. |
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| 07:57.14 | cscazorla | Hello |
| 07:57.38 | cscazorla | Is there any media center project in CubieBoard similar to Raspberry's |
| 07:57.40 | cscazorla | ? |
| 08:02.09 | BigWhoop[DE] | xbmc eg.? |
| 08:07.57 | cscazorla | yes |
| 08:08.01 | BigWhoop[DE] | its there |
| 08:08.29 | BigWhoop[DE] | http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC |
| 08:10.34 | cscazorla | Thank you BigWhoop[DE] :) |
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| 08:11.56 | BigWhoop[DE] | yw |
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| 09:23.46 | lawrence88 | finally got an a20 data sheet |
| 09:24.24 | lawrence88 | although not much in the way of data, at least has pinouts |
| 09:25.04 | lawrence88 | some a20 dev boards coming out here already in .cn land |
| 09:25.21 | lawrence88 | although bit sparse on the sdk side. |
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| 10:21.20 | FergusL | lawrence88: I've read a comment about A20 cubie coming soon |
| 10:23.15 | chkktri | hm, is it much different from A10 besides CPU capatibilities? |
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| 10:24.08 | buZz | it will have a battery backed RTC |
| 10:24.13 | buZz | also, read the mailinglist |
| 10:27.02 | chkktri | buZz: can i have the link? |
| 10:27.32 | buZz | Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cubieboard?hl=en |
| 10:28.38 | chkktri | oh, thanks |
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| 10:47.55 | ychavan | Can I use 'serial to usb cable '( https://www.adafruit.com/products/954 ) provided in dev set to connect to 'microsd breakout uart'( http://linux-sunxi.org/File:JTAG_MicroSD_UART-front.jpeg )? |
| 10:49.11 | ychavan | serial to usb cable that comes with dev set has 4pin uart and microsd breakout uart needs 5pin uart. |
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| 10:49.53 | RaYmAn | just don't connect the 5v and you should be fine |
| 10:50.10 | RaYmAn | you only need to connect tx,rx and gnd |
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| 11:01.20 | FergusL | http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04/13/allwinner-showcases-a20-a31-and-a31s-devices-tablets-phablets-mini-pcs-projectors-laptops-development-boards/#comment-26736 I've only seen this abotu A20 on Cubieboard |
| 11:03.36 | Deskwizard | i'm incline to think most product vendors will go quad-core |
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| 11:08.41 | Micky | !ls |
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| 11:10.44 | Micky | Hi, I have already posted on the group about my problem. However, I would like to try here too. My networkd does not work with the original Android OS installed. The leds are off when the cable is connected. I have verified under setting and the network is on. It is a defective unit or I need to do something in order to enable the network. |
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| 11:38.05 | RaYmAn | Micky: did you try multiple cables? Most PC's these days can automatically select between regular cables and crossed-over cables. Cubieboard might not be able to do that |
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| 11:57.09 | Micky | RayMan: Thank you for the answer |
| 11:57.21 | Micky | Yes I have tried different cables in different ports |
| 11:59.28 | ychavan | RaYmAn, I did not connect Vcc pin. Still it is giving weird character output. |
| 11:59.53 | RaYmAn | that might be speed setting |
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| 12:06.21 | ychavan | I tried all baud rates. |
| 12:06.36 | ychavan | no baud rate gives clear output |
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| 12:26.58 | pippo | hello |
| 12:27.13 | richo | hey |
| 12:27.36 | pippo | does the cubieboard have a mpeg decoder in hw? |
| 12:27.49 | richo | I'm not sure sorry |
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| 13:16.35 | \\Mr_C\\ | ychavan there? |
| 13:18.08 | ychavan | yes |
| 13:19.07 | \\Mr_C\\ | what kind of serial adapter are you using? |
| 13:20.52 | richo | I'm trying to get this https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/debian-wheezy-lxde-armhf-build working on a h6 netbook. Aside from copying u-boot and xunxi-spl into the bootloader, is there anything else I would need to do? |
| 13:22.00 | ychavan | \\Mr_C\\, I am using serial to usb cable that comes with cubieboard |
| 13:22.24 | \\Mr_C\\ | so the progblem is garbled characters? |
| 13:22.40 | ychavan | https://www.adafruit.com/products/954 |
| 13:22.59 | ychavan | yes |
| 13:23.02 | \\Mr_C\\ | i have that same cable |
| 13:23.43 | \\Mr_C\\ | you have the pins in this order, black white green starting on pin 3 nearest to the edge |
| 13:25.20 | ychavan | I am following this http://linux-sunxi.org/MicroSD_Breakout |
| 13:26.04 | ychavan | It says [GND] [GND] [VDD] [RX] [TX] |
| 13:26.24 | \\Mr_C\\ | its a 4 pin cable right? |
| 13:26.49 | \\Mr_C\\ | black white green red are the colors? |
| 13:26.50 | ychavan | I am attaching [Black] [] [] [Green] [White] |
| 13:27.07 | ychavan | Yes, it is 4 pin cable. |
| 13:27.23 | ychavan | But, the socket has 5 pins |
| 13:28.10 | ychavan | uSD breakout UART socket has 5 pins. |
| 13:29.05 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh |
| 13:29.19 | \\Mr_C\\ | your using it on the socket and not directly to the raspi board? |
| 13:30.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh |
| 13:30.41 | \\Mr_C\\ | wait |
| 13:30.45 | \\Mr_C\\ | wrong channel |
| 13:30.46 | \\Mr_C\\ | sorry |
| 13:30.47 | ychavan | I am attaching uSD breackout to cubieboard and attaching uart cable to uart pins in uSD breakout |
| 13:30.56 | \\Mr_C\\ | ok |
| 13:30.59 | \\Mr_C\\ | i gotcha |
| 13:31.08 | ychavan | http://linux-sunxi.org/MicroSD_Breakout |
| 13:31.28 | ychavan | No problem. |
| 13:31.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | so the white and green switch them around |
| 13:31.59 | ychavan | Let me try |
| 13:32.02 | \\Mr_C\\ | remember you cant do tx to tx |
| 13:32.11 | \\Mr_C\\ | one is rx to tx and tx to rx |
| 13:32.58 | ychavan | Switching is not giving any output |
| 13:34.13 | ychavan | :-( |
| 13:34.20 | \\Mr_C\\ | you usng windows? |
| 13:34.43 | ychavan | linux |
| 13:35.01 | ychavan | Command is sudo cu -s 115200 -l /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 13:35.11 | ychavan | Do I need to change command? |
| 13:35.38 | \\Mr_C\\ | try 9600 |
| 13:36.02 | \\Mr_C\\ | and check the parity and stop bitsetc... |
| 13:36.05 | \\Mr_C\\ | 8n1 |
| 13:36.26 | ychavan | ok |
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| 14:57.12 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks |
| 14:57.14 | SquirrelCZECH | how are ya? |
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| 15:00.19 | ychavan | How can I connect to microsd breakout uart pins? I tried with PL2303 cable and all possible baud rates. I am getting weird character output. |
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| 15:08.45 | imRance | holy.... |
| 15:11.21 | SquirrelCZECH | ? :D |
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| 15:13.17 | FourthDr | weird characters? you mean like this: ( .) ( .) or (_|_) |
| 15:13.20 | FourthDr | LOL |
| 15:13.40 | FourthDr | HAHAHA |
| 15:13.56 | FourthDr | sorry, couldn't help myself... |
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| 15:15.09 | FourthDr | have a great day everyone :-) |
| 15:15.25 | FourthDr | ;-) :-D |
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| 15:27.08 | ychavan | FourthDr, These are not known characters ;-) |
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| 17:23.18 | user_2 | cubieboard need hdmi cos it na handle onli 720/1080 monitor. someone was ale to use else as VGA or DVI monitor? |
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| 17:52.29 | BigWhoop[DE] | sure user_2 you can use VGA or DVI monitors too but need a bit of work or additional adapters |
| 17:53.27 | user_2 | BigWhoop[DE], i have hdmi<->DVI converter, but the problme belongs to driver on CB that doesnt manage 1440x900 |
| 17:53.56 | user_2 | raspberry works on that montor plus converter, so prlbmel si driver of CB |
| 17:54.52 | user_2 | do you know how to solve the situation without to buy a hdmi monitor? |
| 17:56.57 | BigWhoop[DE] | you only need to add the resolution in the kernel |
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| 17:57.59 | Siliconsoul | hi |
| 17:58.39 | Siliconsoul | is it possible to get grub onto the sd card and also boot from sata? |
| 17:58.55 | BigWhoop[DE] | you cant boot from sd card. |
| 17:59.21 | Siliconsoul | according to the datasheet sd0 has prio 0 |
| 17:59.33 | Siliconsoul | so im pretty sure you can |
| 18:00.01 | Siliconsoul | schau mal im wiki nach. da stehts auch |
| 18:00.08 | user_2 | BigWhoop[DE], howto "add the resolution in the kernel"? |
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| 18:13.51 | FourthDr | is the a schematic for the needed circuit to connect vga? I know it would include a bunch of resistors |
| 18:15.03 | asterick | http://digitalcontrol.persiangig.com/gallery/Vga4Cubieboard-2.JPG?dur=560 |
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| 18:24.45 | Siliconsoul | theres gotta be grub for cubie |
| 18:25.12 | n01 | Siliconsoul: u-boot and (hopefully) barebox |
| 18:25.41 | Siliconsoul | how should i get it to boot from sata then |
| 18:26.12 | Siliconsoul | wouldnt mind to have uboot do grub |
| 18:26.23 | n01 | IIRC on sata u can have rootfs |
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| 18:27.39 | Siliconsoul | wouldnt that require to have a kernel on either sd or nand then rootfs on sata? |
| 18:28.00 | Siliconsoul | testing images or builds would be a pain then |
| 18:28.56 | n01 | why would it be a pain? |
| 18:29.39 | Siliconsoul | that would require to update the kernel as well |
| 18:30.39 | n01 | kernel and rootfs are two different things |
| 18:30.47 | Siliconsoul | so a new build would have to be pushed to sd or nand and thte hard drive |
| 18:31.43 | Siliconsoul | im working on an embedded system with an application which is tightly tied to the kernel |
| 18:32.00 | n01 | are u working in kernel space? |
| 18:32.11 | Siliconsoul | yeap |
| 18:32.16 | n01 | and also in user space? |
| 18:32.28 | Siliconsoul | yes |
| 18:32.38 | n01 | and why do u need rootfs on external hd? |
| 18:33.03 | frop | what's the problem? rootfs and kernel are unrelated |
| 18:33.12 | Siliconsoul | just dont wanna mess up the nand |
| 18:33.16 | frop | and no, I don't think uboot permits booting from Sata |
| 18:33.23 | n01 | Siliconsoul: why don't you work in ram? |
| 18:33.32 | Siliconsoul | uboot doesnt support sata right |
| 18:33.48 | frop | and uboot is cubie's bootloader... |
| 18:34.00 | frop | but more than that... |
| 18:34.08 | frop | ...it's BROM taht cannot boot from SATA |
| 18:34.19 | frop | check the BROM wiki page |
| 18:34.30 | frop | where BROM is the 1st stage bootloader |
| 18:34.50 | frop | and afaik it does check both sd slots and nand |
| 18:35.10 | frop | if those are not present I think it goes in FEL mode |
| 18:35.16 | Siliconsoul | actually thought of sth in the lines of build an image, copy it to hdd and boot it via uboot, grub or whatever |
| 18:35.56 | n01 | Siliconsoul: if you are working in kernel space the most obvious solution is to have everything in ram |
| 18:36.00 | frop | you CANT read from SATA at boot time |
| 18:36.10 | n01 | My setup is: buildroot->tftp->u-boot->RAM |
| 18:36.35 | n01 | that's enough to have a fully working system to experiment with |
| 18:36.49 | frop | "boot it via uboot" is NOT possible |
| 18:37.03 | frop | cause uboot can read from SD and/or NAND |
| 18:37.17 | frop | ...or as n01 is suggesting...you can load kernels from the net |
| 18:37.55 | frop | ...maybe...and I'm saying maybe...you could "patch" uboot" and make it read from SATA |
| 18:38.13 | frop | but I've no idea if that's possible and how difficult that would be |
| 18:38.48 | Siliconsoul | uboot is pretty low-level. getting sata support in it will be a pain |
| 18:40.15 | frop | that's why you cant boot from sata |
| 18:40.21 | frop | but you need kernel on sd/nand |
| 18:40.44 | frop | on the other hand....having rootfs on the SATA is kinda simple |
| 18:40.55 | frop | as long as you include SATA static in the kernel |
| 18:41.17 | frop | ...still, uboot need to be on sd/nand... |
| 18:41.40 | frop | kernel, you can load it using an "external" tftp server in your network |
| 18:41.51 | frop | using "tftpboot" from uboot cli |
| 18:41.58 | Siliconsoul | kinda stupid but who the heck would want an embedded system to boot from sata right? |
| 18:42.10 | frop | you wanted... |
| 18:42.30 | Siliconsoul | yeah, to edit the development |
| 18:42.35 | Siliconsoul | eh |
| 18:42.39 | Siliconsoul | ease* |
| 18:42.55 | frop | so, keep the rootfs on the sata drive... |
| 18:43.16 | frop | ...and develop kernels...putting them in your tftp server directory |
| 18:43.44 | frop | this way, you'll have only uboot on nand/sd |
| 18:44.15 | Siliconsoul | well, the complete image isnt ever gonna be bigger than 100mb |
| 18:44.26 | Siliconsoul | currently 23mb |
| 18:44.32 | frop | "complete image" is kinda not right |
| 18:44.45 | Siliconsoul | just saying |
| 18:44.52 | frop | much easier talking about kernel&rootfs |
| 18:44.57 | Siliconsoul | i could actually boot it completely over tftp |
| 18:45.05 | frop | mmmh |
| 18:45.19 | frop | yeah, you should be able to |
| 18:45.36 | frop | but I've no idea on how the "image" should be created |
| 18:45.49 | Siliconsoul | configs and files are saved locally |
| 18:46.08 | Siliconsoul | neither do i |
| 18:46.18 | Siliconsoul | there might be sth online |
| 18:47.01 | Siliconsoul | just a thought: this might just be the wrong development platform |
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| 19:06.38 | Siliconsoul | will probably do it via tftp for now |
| 19:07.29 | Siliconsoul | once i have time, i will try to get uboot slipstreamed with a10's sata drivers as uboot supports sata |
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