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| 03:00.05 | hipboi | morning |
| 03:11.53 | tjstyle | morning.. |
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| 04:10.01 | dongs | marsboard is in stock incase anyone carese |
| 04:10.04 | dongs | cares, too |
| 04:30.37 | tjstyle | dongs: your second sdcard breakout is SDIO3? |
| 04:35.55 | tjstyle | so the jtag pinout is not in there |
| 04:36.51 | dongs | its whatever is on headers. |
| 04:36.53 | dongs | i forgot already. |
| 04:37.16 | dongs | yes its sdio3 |
| 04:37.34 | dongs | anyway this was a single purpose breakout that served its purpose and done |
| 04:37.38 | dongs | i have no further plans to do anything with it |
| 04:39.56 | tjstyle | yea, i wan't to try connecting the jtag with jlink. but there is no jtag related document for this board. |
| 04:40.32 | tjstyle | aargh.. marsboard is using same 2mm pin header too.. |
| 04:42.20 | dongs | where do you even see jtag broken out |
| 04:44.02 | tjstyle | ha..ha.. I soldered the jtag cable to my crap sdcard |
| 04:44.30 | dongs | well uh what im saying is |
| 04:44.35 | dongs | unless im reading shit wrong |
| 04:44.41 | dongs | jtag is on A10/B10/A9/B9 pins |
| 04:44.46 | dongs | muxed with SPI2 |
| 04:44.50 | dongs | and none of those pins are connected |
| 04:45.10 | dongs | wehre do oyu see its alternate mux of SDIO? |
| 04:46.45 | tjstyle | the jtag pin is on PB14, PB15, PB16, PB17 |
| 04:47.10 | tjstyle | and yes, is muxed with spi2 |
| 04:47.20 | dongs | and its not connected anywhere. |
| 04:48.42 | dongs | http://i.imgur.com/pxLejvm.png |
| 04:49.22 | tjstyle | see on SD0 |
| 04:49.40 | dongs | ? |
| 04:50.23 | dongs | ah, cocks. |
| 04:51.13 | tjstyle | http://imgur.com/fCN9XYF |
| 04:51.20 | dongs | right |
| 04:51.30 | dongs | so you can ghetto up a jtag adapter into a sdcard body |
| 04:51.50 | dongs | clever |
| 04:53.40 | tjstyle | want this overpriced breakout.. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9419/ |
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| 06:09.37 | dongs | looks good |
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| 10:01.35 | BigWhoop | mnemoc you didnt update the git am I right? |
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| 10:03.06 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: context? |
| 10:09.40 | BigWhoop | ähm...the updates you did on the sunxi media create file |
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| 10:11.19 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: fixes are pushed |
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| 10:11.30 | mnemoc | also remove the `sudo` calls from within the script |
| 10:11.32 | mnemoc | removed* |
| 10:11.40 | mnemoc | so you have to sudo before |
| 10:14.57 | BigWhoop | how long does it take that we can checkout the new file? |
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| 10:17.57 | mnemoc | eh? |
| 10:18.13 | mnemoc | just update your working tree |
| 10:22.47 | BigWhoop | yea. i forgott it :D |
| 10:23.01 | BigWhoop | find it out ~5 mins ago :D |
| 10:28.38 | mnemoc | *facepalm* |
| 10:28.39 | mnemoc | :) |
| 10:28.41 | mnemoc | bbl |
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| 10:33.49 | BigWhoop | ssvb after burn the files to the sd card and boot up the first time i recieve a black screen with one line: ply-terminal.c:611: ply_terminal_open: Assertion terminal != ((void *)0) failed |
| 10:33.55 | BigWhoop | is that okay? |
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| 10:37.54 | ssvb | BigWhoop: yes, I have seen it too, but it does not seem to be related to the graphics drivers |
| 10:38.33 | BigWhoop | ok.after that you installed the graficdriver? |
| 10:38.44 | ssvb | BigWhoop: in any case, if you just unpack that linaro tarball, you get a working system with fbdev driver, right? |
| 10:39.33 | BigWhoop | hmm unpack? i use the sunxi media create script to make the sd card. |
| 10:39.51 | BigWhoop | with the cubiehw pack. |
| 10:40.16 | BigWhoop | and now im stuck at the screen with the ply-terminal message and cant do anything. |
| 10:40.29 | BigWhoop | so i wonder what you did then? |
| 10:40.53 | ssvb | anyway, does the linux desktop work before installing the accelerated driver? |
| 10:41.30 | BigWhoop | there is now desktop. i did not install anything. |
| 10:41.47 | ssvb | linaro has xf86-video-fbdev driver already preinstalled |
| 10:41.57 | BigWhoop | just create the sd with the sunxi script. |
| 10:42.08 | BigWhoop | and now stuck on the blackscreen |
| 10:42.37 | ssvb | what did you do to get the blackscreen? |
| 10:42.49 | BigWhoop | plugin the psu :) |
| 10:43.34 | BigWhoop | then comes the bootup dmesg console and bevor i can type anything in the prompt it shows: ply-terminal.c:611: ply_terminal_open: Assertion terminal != ((void *)0) failed |
| 10:43.38 | BigWhoop | and then nothing. |
| 10:44.05 | BigWhoop | the last time i installed the accelerated driver per ttl. |
| 10:44.47 | BigWhoop | plymouthd stand infront of the error message. |
| 10:45.22 | ssvb | can you try to "rm /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-mali400.conf" and see if it helps? |
| 10:45.45 | BigWhoop | with ttl? |
| 10:45.46 | ssvb | the system should revert to the original xf86-video-fbdev driver |
| 10:46.00 | ssvb | what is ttl? |
| 10:46.12 | BigWhoop | "rs232" connector. |
| 10:46.30 | BigWhoop | i dont have a console atm. cant switch with STRG+ALT+Fx either |
| 10:46.44 | BigWhoop | only the error line. |
| 10:46.58 | BigWhoop | http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/TTL |
| 10:47.35 | ssvb | ok, in any case you just need to find some way to remove this file |
| 10:48.06 | ssvb | for example you can take the SD card, and mount it on another computer as the last resort |
| 10:48.54 | BigWhoop | 10-evdev.conf 11-evdev-trackpoint.conf 51-synaptics-quirks.conf |
| 10:48.54 | BigWhoop | 11-evdev-quirks.conf 50-synaptics.conf |
| 10:49.13 | BigWhoop | after: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d# ls |
| 10:49.52 | BigWhoop | mali driver is not installed in the default linaro file. isnt it? |
| 10:50.00 | ssvb | no, it is not |
| 10:50.08 | BigWhoop | then i cant delete it :D |
| 10:50.23 | ssvb | I mean it is not pre-installed in that linaro tarball |
| 10:51.29 | ssvb | you are supposed to install the accelerated driver using the instructions from http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers (they have "cp xorg.conf /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-mali400.conf" as the last step) |
| 10:52.04 | ssvb | but in any case, first try to get a working linaro system *without* trying to install any accelerated graphics drivers |
| 10:52.08 | BigWhoop | its a clean install. i didnt do anything. |
| 10:53.47 | ssvb | hmm, but at least "guest login" somehow worked for you earlier? |
| 10:53.49 | BigWhoop | What i did atm: plugin the card in a cardreader | start ubuntu | git the sunxi-bsp + download cubiepack + download linaro file | create the sd with the sunxi media creater.sh | eject the SD |put it in the cubieboard ..... end |
| 10:54.46 | BigWhoop | yea but i cant find the error. so i tried from zero. You said you tried it and it worked. So i dont do anything by myself to hope that you can help me now. |
| 10:56.19 | BigWhoop | but i recieve not even the terminal to input something. (same as yesterday btw). So i hoped that you do other things then me. |
| 10:58.19 | ssvb | do you remember what you did to get that "guest login"? |
| 10:58.36 | BigWhoop | sure. i can lohin allready over the TTL terminal. |
| 10:58.46 | BigWhoop | with that i installed the accelerated driver |
| 10:59.44 | BigWhoop | but you said that i have to work without it. |
| 11:00.14 | ssvb | is it so that the accelerated driver makes things a bit better (working "guest login" instead of black screen)? |
| 11:00.34 | BigWhoop | after install the accelerated driver the line with "ply-terminal.c:611: ply_te..." shows for 2 secounds bevor the login screen starts. |
| 11:00.44 | BigWhoop | yep |
| 11:00.57 | BigWhoop | blackscreen with the whiteline :D |
| 11:01.23 | BigWhoop | not just a black screen. |
| 11:01.49 | BigWhoop | OH and i can press ALT+STRG+F1 to change to the ttys from the login screen. |
| 11:01.58 | BigWhoop | now i doesn´t do anything |
| 11:02.43 | BigWhoop | imho the "ply-terminal.c:611: ply_te...bla" cames from a not working splashscreen. |
| 11:03.23 | ssvb | wait a minute, do you have gui login prompt or not? |
| 11:03.33 | BigWhoop | i don´t |
| 11:03.58 | ssvb | did you have it before? |
| 11:04.01 | BigWhoop | only blacksceen with the white line on the top. |
| 11:04.06 | BigWhoop | Yesterday but with another card. |
| 11:04.21 | BigWhoop | i started from scratch now |
| 11:05.47 | BigWhoop | yesterday with another card and only after installing the acc-driver with the TTL connection. On the HDMI monitor it looks the same as yesterday (bevor installing acc-driver) |
| 11:07.33 | BigWhoop | do you want to take a look? i can give you ssh connection :) |
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| 11:18.03 | BigWhoop | do you want to see the xorg log? |
| 11:19.09 | BigWhoop | http://cpaste.org/1740/ |
| 11:20.55 | ssvb | do you have /dev/fb0 and /dev/disp ? |
| 11:21.35 | BigWhoop | yep |
| 11:21.50 | BigWhoop | realy you can look by yourself. i have an internet connection to the device :) |
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| 11:23.06 | ssvb | well, the problem is that I'm not very good at general support, don't normally use ubuntu and don't even have cubieboard (mele a200 here) |
| 11:23.47 | mnemoc | a200? didn't know that one |
| 11:23.48 | ssvb | yesterday it seemed like the accelerated driver broke your system, so I wanted to check if there is any bug in it |
| 11:24.14 | ssvb | mnemoc: doh, it is a2000, too many zeros to type :) |
| 11:24.42 | rm | mnemoc, there is A200 too http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=mele%20a200&=All%20Categories&catId=0&=&=&= |
| 11:24.49 | BigWhoop | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mele-A2000-Android-TV-Box-Online-video-Player-Allwinner-Boxchip-A10-HDMI-WiFi-HDD-support/803232_570204254.html |
| 11:24.50 | BigWhoop | :D |
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| 11:25.27 | mnemoc | a1000(g), a100, a2000(g), a3700, ... many models they have :< |
| 11:25.28 | mnemoc | A10 based I mean |
| 11:25.48 | BigWhoop | ssvb: it seems that there is another problem :) |
| 11:26.52 | mnemoc | rm: s/pdif and no vga/rca... interesting variant |
| 11:26.54 | ssvb | BigWhoop: in any case, I have fixed the annoying "[DISP] not supported scaler input pixel format:0 in Scaler_sw_para_to_reg1" error message - https://github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-sunxifb/commit/d6fb73881068efa9 |
| 11:27.11 | ssvb | now it should not bother/confuse anyone |
| 11:28.09 | BigWhoop | very good. |
| 11:29.11 | mnemoc | ssvb: and the v2 of the overlap patch? :) |
| 11:29.17 | BigWhoop | can anyone else help me? thanks ssvb |
| 11:31.13 | BigWhoop | no one with linaro in here :) |
| 11:33.19 | ssvb | mnemoc: not yet :) I tried to rework it a bit too much and also experiment with the userland code, and then noticed that it was already late night |
| 11:33.41 | BigWhoop | hmmmm: Warning: this sunxi disp driver will see significant redesign. |
| 11:33.48 | BigWhoop | Applications using /dev/disp directly will break. |
| 11:35.12 | BigWhoop | maybe thats the problem? |
| 11:35.22 | ssvb | BigWhoop: you are worrying too much about the warnings in the log files :) after this redesign happens, the applications will be updated too |
| 11:35.35 | ssvb | no, it's not a problem at all |
| 11:35.47 | BigWhoop | ok what else? :D |
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| 11:38.34 | ssvb | maybe try a different rootfs? |
| 11:38.54 | BigWhoop | old one? |
| 11:39.09 | ssvb | I guess there must be some rootfs that was tested to work with cubieboard hwpack |
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| 11:39.20 | BigWhoop | yep |
| 11:41.51 | mnemoc | try 12.11 |
| 11:41.51 | mnemoc | most people has used "precise" instead of q* |
| 11:43.49 | BigWhoop | i know that. |
| 11:44.14 | BigWhoop | but its an developer board not a easy to use and stable device :D |
| 11:44.47 | mnemoc | get a second uSD card ;-) |
| 11:44.59 | mnemoc | one for ubuntu p*, another for ubuntu q* |
| 11:45.41 | mnemoc | there is a lot of flexibility thanks to native mmc booting |
| 11:45.59 | BigWhoop | i need a faster one. thats true :) |
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| 12:58.17 | BigWhoop | wich greeter uses lightdm under linaro? |
| 13:03.30 | BigWhoop | => lightdm-gtk-greeter |
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| 13:16.32 | BigWhoop | mnemoc and ssvb i got it. It was a permission problem. The /home/linaro directory was set to Root:root |
| 13:16.57 | BigWhoop | lightdm cant write the Xauthority file a restarts |
| 13:17.04 | BigWhoop | *and |
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| 13:26.06 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: :) |
| 13:26.56 | BigWhoop | i will have a ubuntu q* with acc-drivers soon. i feel it :D |
| 13:27.53 | mnemoc | go go go |
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| 13:34.44 | BigWhoop | but why is the home/linaro root:root? failure in the scriptfile? |
| 13:43.51 | BigWhoop | what is the best way to test the acc-driver? |
| 13:44.05 | BigWhoop | http://linux-sunxi.org/Ioquake3 ? |
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| 13:51.08 | ssvb | BigWhoop: the best way to test x11 drivers is "apt-get install glmark2-es2" and "glmark2-es2" |
| 13:52.05 | ssvb | BigWhoop: Ioquake3 from that wiki page needs framebuffer drivers and bypasses X server |
| 13:52.18 | BigWhoop | i read it |
| 13:53.18 | BigWhoop | there is a white horse :) turning around |
| 13:53.22 | BigWhoop | but not smooth |
| 13:54.27 | ssvb | one of the problems is that there are almost no real applications using OpenGL ES acceleration (most of open source games require desktop OpenGL) |
| 13:55.10 | ssvb | BigWhoop: the white horse rotation should be smooth, most likely you are using software emulation |
| 13:55.41 | BigWhoop | when the benchmark run iam fine? or should it run in a certain speed? |
| 13:56.15 | ssvb | check the output of glmark2-es2, it should print the information about the driver |
| 13:56.50 | BigWhoop | hmmm GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer |
| 13:57.14 | BigWhoop | and above LibEGL DRI2 failed to open mali dri2 |
| 13:58.22 | ssvb | BigWhoop: check "Mesa libraries are still in the way" part at http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers |
| 13:58.24 | BigWhoop | do i have to install https://github.com/robclark/libdri2 ,too? just with "make" and "make install"? |
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| 13:59.29 | BigWhoop | oh. i dont had the mesa libs in the first try. |
| 14:00.06 | BigWhoop | a horse with 60 fps :) |
| 14:00.41 | BigWhoop | ok mnemoc...DONE...what to do for your rootfs files? :) |
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| 14:01.36 | ssvb | 60 fps is a bit too low |
| 14:02.00 | BigWhoop | with vbo=true it haste 78 fps |
| 14:02.21 | BigWhoop | texture test was about 80 fps |
| 14:02.28 | BigWhoop | shading about 70 |
| 14:02.57 | ssvb | are you using the reference xf86-video-mali driver? |
| 14:03.04 | BigWhoop | stable one :) |
| 14:03.16 | BigWhoop | just to make sure that this is not the problem. |
| 14:03.17 | ssvb | ok, this explains why it is so slow :) |
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| 14:03.30 | BigWhoop | can i compile the new one over the old one? |
| 14:03.34 | ssvb | yes |
| 14:03.42 | BigWhoop | or do i have to delete anything? |
| 14:04.22 | ssvb | no, you don't need to, switching between the drivers is done by replacing /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-mali400.conf |
| 14:04.40 | ssvb | this config file selects which driver is used |
| 14:04.45 | BigWhoop | so i just copy the new xorg file over the other |
| 14:05.44 | ssvb | yes, you can have both drivers installed and only tweak the xorg config file to switch between them any time |
| 14:06.00 | BigWhoop | one more thing ssvb: you are a mali driver pro :) what to do with the DVI Problem when using HDMI adpaters? |
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| 14:06.52 | ssvb | that's not mali related :) |
| 14:06.54 | BigWhoop | is it gone with all i did? or do i have to do something extra? |
| 14:07.10 | BigWhoop | ok. any hints? |
| 14:07.48 | ssvb | not enough details, what exactly is happening? |
| 14:08.26 | BigWhoop | when we (owner of the cubieboard) uses an dvi adapter to use a Monitor the picture is purple. |
| 14:08.48 | BigWhoop | ok i will read about it in our ML or wiki or board :) thanks |
| 14:14.04 | ssvb | BigWhoop: about wrong permissions, how do you unpack the rootfs tarball? |
| 14:14.11 | BigWhoop | a horse with 182 fps with vbo=false and 356 fps vbo=true |
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| 14:14.38 | BigWhoop | not a bit |
| 14:15.01 | BigWhoop | the script does it imho |
| 14:15.35 | BigWhoop | sunxi-media-create.sh |
| 14:16.24 | ssvb | BigWhoop, mnemoc: does the script unpack rootfs with -p (--preserve-permissions) option passed to tar? |
| 14:17.52 | BigWhoop | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/blob/master/scripts/sunxi-media-create.sh |
| 14:18.16 | ssvb | aha, it uses xjf instead of xjpf here - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/blob/master/scripts/sunxi-media-create.sh#L101 |
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| 14:18.41 | BigWhoop | ts ts ts |
| 14:19.11 | ssvb | just test if it resolves the problem and submit a patch :) |
| 14:19.19 | mnemoc | oops |
| 14:19.24 | mnemoc | yes, please add th e-p |
| 14:19.25 | BigWhoop | yep. mnemoc is the right men for that :D |
| 14:20.29 | mnemoc | a git-format-patch over sprunge.us (plain text paste) is good too, no need to send this fix over the ML |
| 14:21.13 | BigWhoop | mnemoc ready with ubuntu q* + acc-driver (new ones). what now? |
| 14:21.44 | mnemoc | the commit |
| 14:22.29 | BigWhoop | how? |
| 14:22.57 | mnemoc | make the change. test it. git commit. git-format-patch -> paste service |
| 14:23.04 | mnemoc | or linux-sunxi's ML |
| 14:23.08 | ssvb | BigWhoop: you probably want to redo the installation with the correct permissions, because they are broken all over the place, not just /home/linaro |
| 14:23.20 | mnemoc | +1 |
| 14:23.31 | BigWhoop | arg :D |
| 14:24.17 | BigWhoop | okay i will. but then both of you drink a beer with me :D |
| 14:29.34 | BigWhoop | the p should be in all of the tar calls? |
| 14:30.25 | mnemoc | yes |
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| 14:51.25 | BigWhoop | http://sprunge.us/DcjS mnemoc |
| 14:52.27 | mnemoc | that's a diff, not a commit |
| 14:53.12 | mnemoc | it's your finding, your fixing, and so it needs your authoring |
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| 14:55.43 | BigWhoop | hmm dont know how :) |
| 14:59.02 | ssvb | "git-commit -a", type a short, but reasonably unique and descriptive <72 characters summary in the first line, then empty line, then the long message with all the details if you want to, and a "Signed-off-by: ..." line at the end |
| 14:59.44 | ssvb | then "git format-patch HEAD^" to get the patch file itself |
| 15:00.25 | BigWhoop | to complex for me :) |
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| 15:01.13 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: it's part of the learning process involved in buying a *development* board |
| 15:01.44 | mnemoc | the second time will be easier |
| 15:01.59 | BigWhoop | i will use a form for it :D |
| 15:02.47 | ssvb | comon :) it's just two git commands and a bit of text typing, you can look at the other commits as the source of inspiration - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/commits/master |
| 15:03.32 | ssvb | mnemoc: I guess Signed-off-by is even not strictly required for this repo? |
| 15:03.47 | mnemoc | welcomed, but not required |
| 15:04.03 | mnemoc | wow, oliver has a face |
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| 15:12.19 | BigWhoop | http://sprunge.us/ccTV |
| 15:12.40 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: did it hurt? :p |
| 15:12.56 | BigWhoop | YES! |
| 15:13.00 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:13.02 | mnemoc | root@ubuntu.(none) ... come on... |
| 15:13.13 | mnemoc | please give me a real mail address |
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| 15:13.30 | BigWhoop | i tried with ähm user.email bla |
| 15:13.34 | BigWhoop | didnt work |
| 15:13.40 | mnemoc | it does work |
| 15:14.03 | BigWhoop | the real adress is in the signed off line :) |
| 15:14.09 | mnemoc | good point |
| 15:14.22 | BigWhoop | when i worked...why is there root@ubuntu? |
| 15:14.25 | BigWhoop | *it |
| 15:14.40 | mnemoc | .oO |
| 15:14.52 | BigWhoop | AH i see. no " in this line |
| 15:16.16 | BigWhoop | http://sprunge.us/TJLR |
| 15:16.31 | BigWhoop | iam 2 meter away from the monitor. hard to read. and the three keyboards here do the rest. |
| 15:16.35 | mnemoc | pushed already :) |
| 15:16.55 | BigWhoop | no problem. just to show that i worked :D |
| 15:16.58 | BigWhoop | it |
| 15:17.32 | mnemoc | congratulations for your first commit :) |
| 15:17.54 | BigWhoop | Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 ? |
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| 15:18.57 | mnemoc | Author: Stefan Boller <s.boller@hardware-mag.de> |
| 15:19.01 | mnemoc | AuthorDate: Wed Mar 20 15:10:08 2013 +0000 |
| 15:19.06 | mnemoc | uh... whitespace |
| 15:19.42 | mnemoc | and uh^2, mail address on a public log :< |
| 15:19.52 | mnemoc | goes for coffee |
| 15:19.58 | mnemoc | (sorry :<) |
| 15:21.02 | BigWhoop | hm |
| 15:21.50 | mnemoc | I only ment to say the date on the commit was right |
| 15:22.23 | mnemoc | mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa |
| 15:23.51 | BigWhoop | but why is the date on the top wrong?` |
| 15:24.59 | mnemoc | `date` before the first ntp sync? |
| 15:31.32 | BigWhoop | hmm its not a date from me |
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| 15:43.05 | BigWhoop | hmmmm we war not ready atm. |
| 15:43.14 | BigWhoop | linaro has the id 1000. but the home folder is 999 |
| 15:44.00 | BigWhoop | but 999 is no user nor group |
| 15:44.34 | BigWhoop | war=are |
| 15:47.29 | BigWhoop | user syslog and messagebus are ok |
| 15:58.30 | ssvb | BigWhoop: is 999 the id of your user on your desktop PC? |
| 15:58.45 | BigWhoop | hm |
| 15:59.08 | BigWhoop | you mean the pc that starts the "create sd script"? |
| 15:59.42 | ssvb | yes |
| 15:59.57 | BigWhoop | i will start it. non. |
| 15:59.58 | BigWhoop | mom. |
| 16:00.34 | ssvb | the id seems to be correct in linaro-quantal-alip-20130227-290.tar.gz |
| 16:01.05 | BigWhoop | you are right. |
| 16:01.33 | ssvb | this commit removes sudo from tar command invocations - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-bsp/commit/53b716f46e36bdd339fde25901fbca08492be1d3 |
| 16:01.48 | BigWhoop | this was mnemoc imho |
| 16:02.10 | ssvb | yes, and apparently you need to run "sudo sunxi-media-create.sh" |
| 16:02.16 | BigWhoop | [11:11] <mnemoc> also remove the `sudo` calls from within the script |
| 16:02.30 | BigWhoop | i did |
| 16:02.47 | ssvb | well, seems like something did not work right |
| 16:04.02 | BigWhoop | http://cpaste.org/1743/ |
| 16:04.06 | BigWhoop | that was the call |
| 16:06.45 | BigWhoop | btw you can remove the plymothd error with a dummy package and then apt-get remove purge it! :) |
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| 16:24.39 | frop | guys? i'm in the process to try a rootfs on a HD |
| 16:24.49 | frop | what's the best way to "clone" the SD rootfs? |
| 16:25.02 | frop | something like: rsync -aH --progress / /mnt |
| 16:25.06 | frop | would work? |
| 16:26.04 | mnemoc | don't clone / |
| 16:28.02 | mnemoc | tar it on another machine |
| 16:28.04 | mnemoc | or you'll even try to copy /dev/mem |
| 16:28.04 | mnemoc | and /proc, /sys, ... and all the not physical files |
| 16:30.09 | frop | mmmh, right |
| 16:30.27 | frop | gotta tar, excluding directories I guess |
| 16:31.02 | mnemoc | it's far easier to plug the card in your computer and then tar everything |
| 16:31.24 | frop | yeah, guess could do that, to save time |
| 16:31.38 | frop | and what about: |
| 16:31.39 | frop | Copy rootfs partition on SD to disk using dd: dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=/dev/sda1 |
| 16:32.22 | mnemoc | images are evil |
| 16:32.37 | mnemoc | but you do want to dd the first 1M of the card |
| 16:33.14 | frop | that way i would dd just the sd's root partition I guess....worth a try |
| 16:33.15 | mnemoc | that dd will actually destroy the / of your computer |
| 16:33.27 | frop | why? |
| 16:33.39 | frop | doing that with sd and hd directly on the cubue |
| 16:33.51 | mnemoc | because you are replacing /dev/sda1 with the card's content? |
| 16:33.51 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 16:34.12 | mnemoc | but it's a BAD idea to read raw a mounted filesystem |
| 16:34.41 | frop | ...ohh c'mon...you always ruin my plans :( |
| 16:35.11 | mnemoc | feel free to dump your hot filesystem into the partition of a totally different size |
| 16:35.22 | mnemoc | but the result won't be what you expect |
| 16:35.27 | frop | no...now i won't |
| 16:35.39 | BigWhoop | hey mnemoc how to make a rootfs from the system i now have? |
| 16:35.59 | frop | BigWhoop ehehe |
| 16:36.05 | frop | guess the same he told me |
| 16:36.08 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: mount the card in your computer and tar it up |
| 16:36.15 | BigWhoop | thats all? :) |
| 16:36.22 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:36.31 | BigWhoop | wich options for tar? |
| 16:36.39 | mnemoc | exclude /lib/modules |
| 16:36.53 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: do your homework :) |
| 16:37.08 | BigWhoop | i make an image when you dont tell me |
| 16:37.10 | BigWhoop | :D |
| 16:37.47 | mnemoc | fine, dd it. and enjoy what will happen if you dd it back to a not identical card ;-) |
| 16:38.05 | mnemoc | also your image will be card-size and not ~200MB |
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| 16:39.33 | BigWhoop | hmmm i dont use dd :) its to inconvenient |
| 16:40.14 | mnemoc | good :) |
| 16:41.50 | BigWhoop | i have much better software for images. |
| 16:42.07 | frop | nothing better than dd! |
| 16:42.46 | BigWhoop | dds images are way to big |
| 16:43.03 | frop | they're the same size of the device you dd |
| 16:43.14 | f1r3 | ddrescue ? |
| 16:43.23 | mnemoc | tar! |
| 16:44.22 | mnemoc | the raw partition is full of zeros... they collect tons of garbage, garbage that dd will store |
| 16:44.30 | mnemoc | err |
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| 16:44.36 | mnemoc | the raw partition is NOT full of zeros... they collect tons of garbage, garbage that dd will store |
| 16:44.41 | BigWhoop | mnemoc i want to do you a favour. but you dont want it. |
| 16:45.04 | mnemoc | shuts up |
| 16:45.48 | BigWhoop | write an howto and i will make it just for you! :) |
| 16:46.14 | mnemoc | the wiki is waiting :) |
| 16:46.24 | BigWhoop | me, too |
| 16:47.35 | BigWhoop | send me the link when you are ready |
| 16:48.15 | mnemoc | doesn't write tutorials |
| 16:49.07 | frop | tar -cpvJf rootfs.tar.xz --exclude=/lib/modules /mnt/mmc/* |
| 16:49.09 | BigWhoop | don´t commit things! |
| 16:53.30 | BigWhoop | xz? not gz? and why no z option? |
| 16:55.32 | frop | J == xz |
| 16:55.35 | frop | z == gz |
| 16:55.45 | frop | but yeah, you can use z instead of J |
| 16:55.53 | frop | trying right now |
| 16:56.06 | BigWhoop | hmm tar dosnt have J option. only j |
| 16:56.15 | frop | your tar :D |
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| 16:58.03 | ssvb | if you just want to move rootfs from one media to another, it would be a bit faster to avoid compression |
| 16:58.24 | BigWhoop | its to publish in the net. |
| 16:58.57 | ssvb | ok |
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| 17:12.29 | frop | frak |
| 17:12.35 | frop | that tar command isn't right :P |
| 17:12.43 | frop | it preserve paths |
| 17:13.07 | frop | so you'll have a trailing mnt/mmc/ for every file |
| 17:14.54 | BigWhoop | go to the root of the sd card an try: (sudo) tar -cpjvf /home/[USER]/myrootfs.tar.bz2 . |
| 17:15.31 | frop | yeah, doing that now |
| 17:19.11 | frop | maybe I coudl have used --strip-components=NUMBER on extraction |
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| 17:37.40 | mnemoc | techn__: ah, yes. fixed "some" troubles for the author (BigWhoop @ #cubieboard) :) |
| 17:37.43 | mnemoc | err |
| 17:38.29 | mnemoc | wrong channel obviusly :p |
| 17:42.04 | BigWhoop | hmmm |
| 17:42.07 | BigWhoop | thats my name :D |
| 17:44.33 | BigWhoop | mnemoc is that ok? sudo tar -cpvzf rootfs.tar.gz --exclude=/lib/modules /mnt/mmc/* |
| 17:44.45 | frop | nope it's not :D |
| 17:45.46 | frop | tar -cpvzf /home/mrmr/cubieboard/releases/rootfs/rootfs.tar.gz --exclude=lib/modules * |
| 17:45.49 | frop | this is.... |
| 17:46.03 | frop | ...but position yourself inside the mounted mmc partition |
| 17:46.26 | frop | guess the trailing / wouldn't work |
| 17:46.53 | frop | in --exclude= i mean |
| 17:47.37 | frop | anyway, I think i've a problem on-boot... |
| 17:47.43 | frop | DRAM: 512 MiB |
| 17:47.43 | frop | MMC: SUNXI SD/MMC: 0 |
| 17:47.43 | frop | *** Warning - bad CRC, using default environment |
| 17:48.29 | BigWhoop | thats normal imho |
| 17:48.42 | frop | shouldn't u-boot report 1gb? |
| 17:49.20 | BigWhoop | depend on your cubie :) i though you mean the CRC thing |
| 17:49.31 | frop | both of them ;) |
| 17:53.05 | frop | and yeah....my u-boot sucks...gotta replace it |
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| 18:08.49 | mnemoc | frop: tar -C /mnt/mmc :p |
| 18:09.06 | mnemoc | and then . instead of * .... and magic! |
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| 18:17.10 | BigWhoop | for extracting? |
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| 18:21.49 | BigWhoop | mnemoc: backup: sudo tar -cpvzf rootfs.tar.gz --exclude=lib/modules . |
| 18:22.03 | BigWhoop | mnemoc: write it: sudo tar -vxzpf rootfs.tar.gz -C . |
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| 18:28.11 | mnemoc | BigWhoop: no no. sudo tar -C /mnt/mmc $options rootfs.tar.gz --exclude=lib/modules . |
| 18:31.37 | BigWhoop | the . at the end is unnecessary? |
| 18:32.06 | mnemoc | no, tar needs to know what to tar |
| 18:32.24 | mnemoc | problem with * is it will expand before the chdir (-C) |
| 18:32.33 | mnemoc | and . solves that problem |
| 18:32.42 | BigWhoop | hmmm i give hime /mnt/mmc AND rootfs.tar.gz AND .? |
| 18:33.11 | mnemoc | -C /mnt/mmc <-- chdir |
| 18:33.17 | mnemoc | rootfs.tar.gz <--- output |
| 18:33.21 | mnemoc | . <--- input |
| 18:33.44 | BigWhoop | ok and then i have to be in the path or not? |
| 18:34.29 | mnemoc | no, -C goes to the mount point of the card |
| 18:34.42 | BigWhoop | ok so i can start it from anywhere |
| 18:34.48 | mnemoc | exactly |
| 18:35.08 | BigWhoop | and when i am in the path dont need -C /mnt/mmc? |
| 18:35.09 | mnemoc | it's very useful when using tar | ssh tar |
| 18:35.23 | mnemoc | right |
| 18:35.34 | mnemoc | but then be sure to not store the tarball in the card |
| 18:35.48 | BigWhoop | ah. is see |
| 18:35.51 | BigWhoop | -s |
| 18:39.30 | BigWhoop | the other command is ok? |
| 18:40.28 | mnemoc | "-C ." is non-sense |
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| 18:41.46 | BigWhoop | has to be /mnt/mmc instead of the .? |
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| 18:43.14 | mnemoc | -C is like `cd` |
| 18:43.21 | mnemoc | `cd .` doesn't add any value |
| 18:43.30 | mnemoc | neither does `cd $PWD` |
| 18:46.50 | BigWhoop | give me the right command :) |
| 18:47.37 | mnemoc | I did |
| 18:47.56 | BigWhoop | complete? |
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| 18:52.26 | frop | <mnemoc> BigWhoop: no no. sudo tar -C /mnt/mmc $options rootfs.tar.gz --exclude=lib/modules . |
| 18:52.44 | frop | I was eating |
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| 20:04.48 | frop | mmmh |
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| 21:06.40 | frop | woot, now my cubie has 1gb ram...and rootfs on sata |
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| 21:11.29 | shineworld | wow frop |
| 21:11.54 | frop | yeah, got no time sadly...to make it useful ;) |
| 21:12.32 | shineworld | are you using an SSD or normal HD ? |
| 21:12.57 | shineworld | PS: I'm thinking to try one next week |
| 21:14.45 | shineworld | what about of SATA speed ? |
| 21:15.12 | frop | normal HD 2.5 |
| 21:15.23 | frop | you need a good psu |
| 21:15.42 | frop | this one is 1.5A but it works flawlessy, for now |
| 21:16.24 | shineworld | :) have you tried a dd if=/dev/<sata> of=/dev/null to test speed ? |
| 21:17.26 | frop | dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/test.file bs=1k count=4000000 |
| 21:17.30 | frop | running this |
| 21:17.35 | frop | should be 4gb |
| 21:17.37 | shineworld | a write test |
| 21:17.53 | shineworld | sequential write test |
| 21:18.43 | frop | this was the Sata2 HD inside my laptop....WD blue |
| 21:18.50 | frop | 4096000000 bytes (4.1 GB) copied, 121.034 s, 33.8 MB/s |
| 21:20.36 | frop | dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null bs=1k count=4000000 |
| 21:20.36 | frop | 4096000000 bytes (4.1 GB) copied, 47.6781 s, 85.9 MB/s |
| 21:22.25 | shineworld | that's are W & R times on your lappy ? |
| 21:22.43 | frop | eheh, no idea... |
| 21:23.00 | frop | bought a SSD...and wont' take it out any time soon |
| 21:24.38 | shineworld | no I mean 33.8 and 85.9 are from cubie or from your laptop ? |
| 21:25.09 | frop | from the cubie |
| 21:25.28 | frop | with the disk from my laptop |
| 21:25.30 | shineworld | not bad, truly |
| 21:26.26 | mnemoc | I get 120MB/s from an externally powered 3.5" sata2 drive |
| 21:26.48 | mnemoc | some people claims up to 200MB/s when using externally powered SSDs |
| 21:26.56 | shineworld | that's are from my WD Black : 4096000000 bytes (4.1 GB) copied, 45.4353 s, 90.2 MB/s |
| 21:27.10 | frop | wd black on a pc |
| 21:27.14 | shineworld | yes |
| 21:27.23 | shineworld | so not great differences |
| 21:27.55 | shineworld | MAC OS X Lion -> VMware -> Xubuntu 64bit 12.04 -> dd on virtual HD |
| 21:28.05 | frop | eheh |
| 21:28.11 | frop | that's cause the vm, i'd say |
| 21:28.29 | frop | ...and those 3.5" should be 7200rpm |
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| 21:29.29 | shineworld | a sec I will try directly to mac |
| 21:31.17 | shineworld | naaa, mac os don't works : |
| 21:31.18 | shineworld | shine-net:~ shine$ sudo dd if=/dev/disk1s3 of=/dev/null bs=1k count=4000000 |
| 21:31.19 | shineworld | dd: /dev/disk1s3: Resource busy |
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| 21:32.28 | shineworld | uhm... I'm not so happy of WD hd performance at all |
| 21:32.54 | shineworld | In same PC I've also other "more old" sata HD which works better and faster |
| 21:35.45 | frop | lol |
| 21:35.59 | frop | got a wd black too on my pc...they should be fast enough |
| 21:39.28 | shineworld | Ok, will follow a very "noob" question but why not to do : |
| 21:39.48 | shineworld | ADB is a great debugging tool which went with android eco-system. |
| 21:39.51 | BigWhoop | i only have ssds :( |
| 21:40.16 | shineworld | it open a console to device with features like put/get files |
| 21:40.46 | shineworld | IS adb present also in linux distro or is available only a console on ttyS0 at 115200 ? |
| 21:41.12 | BigWhoop | adb = ANDROID debug bridge :) |
| 21:41.17 | shineworld | yes |
| 21:41.36 | Bizon | adb is afaik provided only in the android sdk |
| 21:41.54 | Bizon | so you can definitely obtain it for your linux distribution but not using the official package manager |
| 21:42.38 | shineworld | could be interesting because simplify the access to terminal and possibility to push pull file from and to host connected computer |
| 21:42.55 | BigWhoop | you have ssh for that in linux |
| 21:42.58 | BigWhoop | mostly ootb |
| 21:43.27 | shineworld | You are right... I've pre-fixed " a very noob question" |
| 21:43.46 | BigWhoop | you dont need it for linux :) long story short |
| 21:44.00 | shineworld | ;) thanks for reply |
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