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| 07:24.03 | Haghiri75 | Hi :) Good Morning :) |
| 07:27.04 | BigWhoop | welcome |
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| 08:26.11 | prp-e | !ls |
| 08:26.27 | prp-e | !ls monitor |
| 08:26.43 | prp-e | [ls] monitor |
| 08:28.10 | D-Tick | !expl display-support |
| 08:28.11 | CubieFAQ | display-support: While A10 comes with support for VGA/TV/LVDS/HDMI only HDMI connetor is actualy provided on cubieboard out of the box. HDMI is DVI compatible but you need recent kernel to use most DVI screens. The pre-installed android kernel is configured for 720p digital TV mode. |
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| 09:40.04 | shineworld | is cubieboard 5v TTL tollerant for DEBUG port ? |
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| 10:03.44 | FourthDr | nope |
| 10:04.08 | FourthDr | that's why they say don't connect the red +5v wire |
| 10:04.30 | FourthDr | just the rx tx and gnd |
| 10:05.34 | shineworld | damn... fortunately I haven't attached yet |
| 10:05.50 | shineworld | mine is an optoisolated +5v USB to TTL |
| 10:06.43 | shineworld | now I should wait other 20days to have right converter from china |
| 10:06.58 | shineworld | that's life |
| 10:07.49 | shineworld | uhm booting from default android is ADB available on LAN adapter ? |
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| 10:13.55 | FourthDr | ADB? |
| 10:14.26 | FourthDr | USB d- d+ are 3.3v |
| 10:14.55 | FourthDr | so a 5v usb to ttl will work just don't conect the 5+v line |
| 10:16.34 | FourthDr | at least that is what the wiki says |
| 10:18.18 | shineworld | I've mistype the sentence : USB to TTL 5v |
| 10:19.34 | FourthDr | https://www.adafruit.com/products/954 |
| 10:20.05 | FourthDr | or |
| 10:20.08 | FourthDr | http://www.amazon.com/PL2303HX-RS232-Cable-module-Converter/dp/B008AGDTA4/ |
| 10:20.12 | FourthDr | same thing |
| 10:20.13 | shineworld | wonderful... I've to find one in europe zone |
| 10:20.34 | shineworld | thanks for suggestion |
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| 10:22.04 | FourthDr | unless you need all the rs-232 signals...in that case you need an ftdi cable with 6 wires |
| 10:40.00 | BigWhoop | FTDI works great and are cheap. |
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| 10:40.12 | BigWhoop | you can buy adapter on ebay :) |
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| 12:18.13 | BigWhoop | dongs maybe you should use a bouncer. with no nickchange after lost connection. |
| 12:18.33 | dongs | th e problem isnt my internet, fucker |
| 12:18.37 | dongs | the problem is this fucking irc netwrok |
| 12:18.48 | frop | :(( |
| 12:18.49 | BigWhoop | a bouncer dont have this issue |
| 12:19.04 | BigWhoop | whatever cause you problems. |
| 12:19.09 | BigWhoop | your |
| 12:19.13 | frop | my cubie gotta be lost somewhere in the Indian Ocean...aboard a ship :( |
| 12:19.23 | dongs | problem is lilo and this shitty trash custom ircd that doesn't follow protocol |
| 12:19.46 | frop | dongs but we never ping out :P |
| 12:19.48 | frop | why? |
| 12:19.59 | dongs | the fuck do I know? |
| 12:20.06 | BigWhoop | but an bouncer from another location should not have the connectionloss |
| 12:20.14 | dongs | i'm connected to 10 other places and those connections have been going for months |
| 12:20.40 | frop | still, you're from japan, right? |
| 12:20.49 | frop | why not try with au servers? |
| 12:21.00 | BigWhoop | when you use you´ill prevent us from your rejoin spam :D |
| 12:21.02 | dongs | which feenode server doesnt matter |
| 12:21.15 | dongs | they're ALL broken |
| 12:21.25 | frop | but you're pinging out |
| 12:21.36 | frop | maybe is a carrier problem, not "server-type" |
| 12:21.51 | dongs | but if I type stuff into my client and watch from another connection |
| 12:22.00 | dongs | I can actually see myself typing right away. |
| 12:22.20 | BigWhoop | long story short: a bouncer will help you :) |
| 12:22.26 | frop | still, there could be some carrier router between japan and us that makes you ping out |
| 12:22.28 | dongs | long story short: feenode should fix itself |
| 12:22.32 | frop | BigWhoop I doubt |
| 12:22.32 | dongs | no. |
| 12:22.34 | dongs | the connection doesnt actually stop |
| 12:22.43 | frop | dongs it does |
| 12:22.45 | dongs | on my end. |
| 12:22.45 | dongs | its feenode that fucks it up. |
| 12:22.47 | dongs | like I said, my internet is perfectly fine |
| 12:22.49 | frop | if you pingout |
| 12:23.01 | dongs | the server disconnects me, not I disconnect from it.t |
| 12:23.05 | BigWhoop | why frop? the bouncer is in here 24/7 and we cant see the connection of the client :) |
| 12:23.10 | frop | and "your" internet can be fine...still a courier router could not be |
| 12:23.16 | dongs | .... |
| 12:23.21 | frop | BigWhoop that's the same |
| 12:23.22 | dongs | dude. |
| 12:23.31 | dongs | this happens on all the feenode servers i fucking tried like 90% of htem |
| 12:23.35 | frop | if he runs a bnc from his "home" network |
| 12:23.41 | BigWhoop | same? we dont see any join and parts. |
| 12:23.42 | dongs | it does not happen on ANY OTHER IRC SERVER THAT IS NOT ON THIS NETWORK |
| 12:23.52 | BigWhoop | HOME? there are very good servers for that. |
| 12:24.00 | frop | dongs....i'm saying anothee thing... |
| 12:24.08 | frop | ....it's not YOUR network |
| 12:24.14 | frop | but your ISP's carrier |
| 12:24.23 | dongs | i'm connected to efnet + some random private irc network off this EXACT SAME CONNECTION |
| 12:24.23 | dongs | and I've been connected there for WEEKS+ |
| 12:24.25 | frop | something you don't have control over |
| 12:24.47 | frop | home - ISP - carriers - irc server |
| 12:24.55 | BigWhoop | its another trace from you to freenode and from you to any other network :) |
| 12:24.58 | dongs | ... |
| 12:25.02 | frop | home - ISP - carrier1 - freenode irc server |
| 12:25.11 | dongs | frop, I've reconnceted to most feenode servers directly (instead of using irc.feenode) |
| 12:25.13 | frop | home - ISP - carrier2 - f EFNet irc server |
| 12:25.15 | dongs | the result is fucking same. |
| 12:25.40 | frop | pls.... |
| 12:25.46 | frop | ...try those 3 only: |
| 12:25.46 | frop | Perth, AUbradbury.freenode.netNo |
| 12:25.47 | frop | Singapore, SGbrooks.freenode.netNo |
| 12:25.47 | frop | Brisbane, AUroddenberry.freenode.netYes |
| 12:25.57 | frop | bradbury |
| 12:25.59 | frop | brooks |
| 12:26.03 | dongs | i did, i am not reconnecting again |
| 12:26.04 | frop | roddenberry |
| 12:26.10 | BigWhoop | or use an bouncer :) surly from another location :D |
| 12:26.14 | frop | just chance irssi setting |
| 12:26.35 | frop | right now you're connected to the Pittsburg one |
| 12:26.38 | xenoxaos | has no problems with freenode.... |
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| 12:26.49 | frop | xenoxaos neither I do |
| 12:26.51 | xenoxaos | i stay connected for weeks at a time |
| 12:27.05 | frop | ops...neither do i |
| 12:27.22 | xenoxaos | [xenoxaos] idle 00:00:16, signon: Thu Feb 07 22:24:07 |
| 12:27.54 | dongs | frop: my irc client starts counting off lag: xxx |
| 12:28.07 | dongs | at same time, I can enter something and it will immediately appear in chat if I watch from another client |
| 12:28.19 | dongs | whie I cannot see any responses in the channel, until it unlags, or until it ping timeouts me. |
| 12:28.20 | frop | dongs I know |
| 12:28.28 | dongs | so the problem is obviosuly the fucking ircd! |
| 12:28.36 | frop | still the router, could suddendly fails to route your packets |
| 12:28.41 | dongs | bullshit. |
| 12:28.51 | frop | not your router... |
| 12:28.54 | frop | ISP's router |
| 12:28.58 | dongs | why does it ONLY fail to route them to ANY FEENODE SERVER but NOWHERE ELSE |
| 12:29.09 | frop | neither ISP's router....courier's router |
| 12:29.37 | frop | becouse ISPs have different "contracts" with different couriers...to route packets to different subnets |
| 12:30.07 | frop | and the courier servint freenode's IP pool could fail |
| 12:30.16 | donigs | ... |
| 12:30.18 | frop | s/servint/serving/ |
| 12:30.27 | dongs | see, im looking from my other account and i haven't seen you "neither isp's router" reply here yet |
| 12:30.27 | dongs | Lag: 25 |
| 12:30.27 | dongs | etc. |
| 12:30.37 | BigWhoop | dongs you have to understand the work of the internet and the routers. |
| 12:30.43 | dongs | no i dont |
| 12:30.49 | frop | you get lag, cause packets don't get routed properly |
| 12:31.10 | dongs | i could possibly understand that feenode is paying for the shittiest fucking sla possible on their connection, that I could believe. |
| 12:31.11 | frop | and besides...I just suggested you something to solve the problem... |
| 12:31.19 | frop | ...but if ya don't care....why should I? |
| 12:31.27 | BigWhoop | it is completly different to chat on freenode or chat on EFNET! |
| 12:31.32 | dongs | but that it has anything to do with the fact that their ircd is fucked + nonstandard compliant + breaks all the fucking time im not gonna believe |
| 12:31.55 | frop | dongs if they're not compliant....why the thing affect only you? :P |
| 12:31.58 | xenoxaos | How come I don't get kicked all the time? |
| 12:32.27 | frop | there're thousends of users on freenode.... |
| 12:32.40 | frop | ...and very few are pingout often as you do |
| 12:32.52 | frop | s/ing/inging/ |
| 12:33.00 | BigWhoop | and the use bouncers so nobody can see it :D |
| 12:33.05 | xenoxaos | currently 240780 users on right now |
| 12:33.13 | BigWhoop | *they |
| 12:33.50 | dongs | shrug? |
| 12:33.52 | frop | anyway, I would use a server near my location....here's the list |
| 12:33.53 | frop | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
| 12:33.54 | xenoxaos | actually, sometimes i do ping/timeout....to my bouncer |
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| 12:34.14 | donigs | frop: I know where the fucking list is. I told you i've connected to most of them |
| 12:34.16 | BigWhoop | maybe your problem with connection loss is then away, too because of another trace |
| 12:34.18 | donigs | the problem is EXACTLY SAME |
| 12:34.32 | BigWhoop | sure xenoxaos but noone else can seen it :) |
| 12:34.32 | frop | if you say so |
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| 13:39.37 | prp-e | Good afternoon from Iran :) |
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| 13:59.09 | prp-e | Hi all , If u wanna know more about my foundation join ##jabirproject |
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| 15:32.09 | shineworld | could someone copy/paste (pastebin) its startup boot log of virgin cubile (android on board) ? |
| 15:32.26 | shineworld | TTL connection |
| 15:32.36 | frop | ehi shineworld...is it working? :) |
| 15:33.35 | shineworld | yes |
| 15:34.03 | shineworld | but I'm not sure because start stop after a while |
| 15:34.26 | shineworld | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.26 | shineworld | [ 16.122705] wemac wemac.0: WARNING: no IRQ resource flags set. |
| 15:34.26 | shineworld | [ 18.545780] netd used greatest stack depth: 5416 bytes left |
| 15:41.38 | shineworld | frop, http://pastebin.com/3sbPEHLf |
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| 15:46.16 | shineworld | frop, http://pastebin.com/3sbPEHLf |
| 15:46.22 | shineworld | at moment seem very slow |
| 15:49.49 | shineworld | frop, https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zsmkxpt5rwbih3/IMG_20130301_160306.jpg |
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| 17:46.52 | Mr_Moustache | rm: Nice work, your Debian image&tutorial are great |
| 17:47.49 | rm | o/ |
| 17:52.36 | Mr_Moustache | It seems that the cubie regenerates its MAC address every boot, am I right ? |
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| 17:55.58 | xenoxaos | set a pre-up on your network configs to set the mac address to whatever you want |
| 17:56.11 | buZz | Mr_Moustache: you can configure the mac address in script.bin |
| 17:56.24 | xenoxaos | or that too |
| 17:56.24 | Mr_Moustache | ok I see that |
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| 19:07.54 | noobycuby | !ls |
| 19:09.17 | noobycuby | i got a little problem , by to upgrading to fast my archlinux kernel , is there a way to downgade it ? |
| 19:09.34 | noobycuby | btw i still can boot into the system |
| 19:10.23 | xenoxaos | see if it's in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ |
| 19:10.32 | xenoxaos | ^^the old kernel that is |
| 19:11.29 | noobycuby | ^_^ yes the old one ist still there and i try to get it again by pacman -U bla bla but my uname -r say still not the old one :/ |
| 19:11.38 | noobycuby | did i miss something ? |
| 19:13.41 | xenoxaos | is your boot partition mounted to /boot? |
| 19:17.01 | noobycuby | hmm ... my /boot is on the sdcard and mounted to / so i think yes, i looked up in mount an boot is not specialy listed |
| 19:18.34 | frop | reboot? |
| 19:19.55 | noobycuby | i tried after using pacman |
| 19:20.03 | noobycuby | no change :/ |
| 19:20.19 | frop | if you just upgrade/downgrade the kernel, uname won't change till reboot |
| 19:20.30 | xenoxaos | there is that too.... |
| 19:20.48 | frop | and...make sure the bootloader boots the right kernel |
| 19:20.49 | jelly-home | hm. Can anyone test whether the power adaptor for odroid-x/x2 (http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G134111972476) works for a cubieboard? |
| 19:21.09 | noobycuby | i reboot again an see what will happen |
| 19:21.39 | FourthDr | OTG works |
| 19:21.44 | FourthDr | the replacment cable works |
| 19:21.51 | noobycuby | how can i check which kernel the bootloader choose ? |
| 19:22.08 | FourthDr | on android? |
| 19:22.09 | xenoxaos | jelly-home, looking at it....no |
| 19:22.19 | frop | not sure, my cubieboard is still MIA |
| 19:22.32 | FourthDr | tried settings? |
| 19:22.52 | frop | jelly-home you can buy a psp psu for about 5/6euro |
| 19:23.13 | jelly-home | - OTG is only 500mA as far as I know, and it's not enough to power a typical 2.5" SATA HDD or SSD |
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| 19:23.33 | jelly-home | - can't find an official psp psu anywhere |
| 19:23.37 | xenoxaos | but you can use the cable it comes with and a usb phone charger |
| 19:24.12 | jelly-home | yeah... I don't have a 2A USB charger, either |
| 19:25.06 | xenoxaos | that will probably be easier to source than an actual wall wart with the proper end |
| 19:26.20 | f1r3 | PHIHONG Power Adapter PSC10E-050 works well |
| 19:26.51 | noobycuby | silly question where can i tell the bootloader to choose the right kernel ? i just know how to do the trick with grub ^_^''' |
| 19:26.58 | f1r3 | these where delivered with compaq/HP Ipaq |
| 19:28.03 | jelly-home | hmph, yeah, I forgot to retest my usb chargers with the fixed cable |
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| 19:41.49 | noobycuby | is there a simple way to edit the bootloader? |
| 19:43.49 | jelly-home | also, the very-generic-psu-with switchable output voltage (3.3/5/5.5/6/7V) I already tested with, now works when the board is loaded with a HDD |
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| 19:44.05 | shineworld | what WIFI (usb) module do you use with cubie ? |
| 19:45.46 | bfree | noobycuby: boot.cmd is converted by mkimage to boot.scr and controls booting. uEnv.txt can also set variables which you can use in boot.scr ... depending how your existing setup is you can either make a new boot.scr or edit uEnv.txt or simply just rename the uImage (and uInitrd if you use one) |
| 19:51.58 | xenoxaos | shineworld, anything that should work with the 3.0 kernel should work fine... |
| 19:54.24 | jelly-home | ok, HDD works. How much bw should I expect from that sata controller and driver? dd'ing from an SSD gives me about 100-110MB/s and the device is capable of about double on a PC. |
| 19:55.18 | xenoxaos | that's a decent amount... |
| 19:55.21 | jelly-home | 90% cpu time spent in kernel, 7% iowait, 3% user |
| 19:55.43 | jelly-home | xenoxaos: hm, how decent if the ssd can do 200+? |
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| 19:56.35 | xenoxaos | i say 100M/s+ on a little tiny arm board is pretty damn good |
| 19:57.04 | jelly-home | size has nothing to do with it! |
| 19:57.33 | xenoxaos | i know |
| 19:58.05 | jelly-home | clocks the cpu to 1.1 |
| 20:02.09 | jelly-home | there were also quite a few ata1: SError: { UnrecovData 10B8B BadCRC } until the driver chose to switch to sata-1 speeds |
| 20:04.36 | noobycuby | @bfree i boot from sdcard and got there a small partition with an uEnv.txt do you mean this one , because in /boot is no uEnv.txt |
| 20:06.39 | bfree | noobycuby: yes that uEnv.txt, but you need to also look at the boot.scr (or easier boot.cmd) assuming you have one to see if that is any use to you as is (i.e. without making you make a new boot.scr from a new boot.cmd) |
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| 20:13.15 | bfree | noobycuby: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/wiki should help |
| 20:14.00 | bfree | noobycuby: it may be as easy for you as just changing that kernel is set to in the uEnv.txt |
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| 20:15.32 | noobycuby | hmm k , i google how to set it in uEnv thx for pointing it =) |
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| 21:04.57 | jelly-home | amusingly, overclocking to 1.2GHz does not change the average reads from SATA SSD, it just changes the CPU usage slightly to 80% sys, 10% user, 10% iowait |
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| 22:27.49 | shineworld | sigh... 100MB/s is my higher (at least twice) than my MAC OS X speed |
| 22:28.04 | shineworld | -my |
| 22:30.28 | frop | but SATA port shouldn't reduce CPU load? |
| 22:30.38 | jelly-home | frop: reduce from what to what? |
| 22:30.50 | frop | I can understand 80% cpu using usbstorage...not SATA |
| 22:31.52 | jelly-home | this cpu is not exactly the fastest, and the quality of io drivers is an unknown |
| 22:32.20 | jelly-home | frop: so, what's the reference point? |
| 22:32.31 | frop | a lantiq 333mhz router |
| 22:32.49 | frop | using usbstorage |
| 22:33.09 | jelly-home | usb3 or...? usb2 can't do 100MB/s |
| 22:33.27 | frop | USB2 and it does not reach 100MB/s :) |
| 22:33.35 | jelly-home | ... |
| 22:33.41 | frop | but still, uses all the cpu |
| 22:33.52 | frop | something I wouldn not expect from a SATA connection |
| 22:35.16 | jelly-home | yeah, but where do you draw that expectation from |
| 22:35.55 | frop | isn't SATA a "data channel"? |
| 22:36.04 | frop | why hi-load on CPU? |
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| 22:43.58 | frop | so the real question is....is there a kind of "Sata Controller" on board/ |
| 22:44.15 | frop | otherwise, both sata and usb will rely on CPU |
| 22:44.17 | jelly-home | it's hard to say whether that's high at all |
| 22:44.30 | frop | as the CPU has to do the "controller" work |
| 22:45.06 | frop | SATA should be optimized for data transfer from a storage device |
| 22:45.11 | jelly-home | with a disk that does 35MB/s, it takes 60% CPU clocked at 400MHz |
| 22:46.25 | jelly-home | didn't test the slow disk with a performance cpufreq setting yet |
| 22:47.42 | frop | I bought cubie especcially for the SATA port |
| 22:47.54 | frop | so it can act as a cheap "NAS" |
| 22:48.08 | frop | but if the storage is so taxative on the cpu, no point :P |
| 22:48.50 | pidpawel | hmm |
| 22:49.00 | pidpawel | so what are other usages of cpu in nas? |
| 22:49.23 | frop | eheh |
| 22:49.27 | frop | good point |
| 22:49.40 | pidpawel | :P |
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| 22:50.09 | jelly-home | frop: you can probably only connect a single disk over sata anyway |
| 22:50.11 | frop | clearly NAS would be just one of the use |
| 22:50.24 | frop | jelly-home that's what I'll do |
| 22:50.44 | jelly-home | likes his storage redundant |
| 22:50.45 | frop | for sure, cubie is not a proper board for a "proper nas" |
| 22:51.04 | pidpawel | cubie does support sata multiplexers. |
| 22:51.10 | jelly-home | pidpawel: reference? |
| 22:51.20 | pidpawel | afair mnemoc tested it. |
| 22:51.52 | jelly-home | I've heard both "does" and "don'ts" said around these parts. |
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| 22:52.41 | pidpawel | strange. i've heard only "does" ;) |
| 22:54.06 | jelly-home | Feb 09 22:58:22 <buZz> defiantredpill: sata multiplier doesnt work on cubie |
| 22:54.06 | jelly-home | Feb 09 22:58:37 <buZz> or any other A10 board |
| 23:00.46 | BigWhoop | => CubieFAQ :D |
| 23:04.23 | shineworld | cubiefaq: To connect more disks, you would need a SATA cabinet that does RAID by itself. So the multiplier needs to emulate a single drive. The host system Cubieboard then sees only a single SATA disk, with whatever capacity your chosen RAID level gives you. |
| 23:06.59 | frop | I guess I'll do some tests when my board arrives |
| 23:07.23 | frop | comparing USB and SATA transfer rates + cpu load |
| 23:09.37 | jelly-home | shineworld: that implies no support for sata multipliers |
| 23:10.30 | shineworld | yes.. first sencence of cubiefaq page related to sata |
| 23:10.49 | shineworld | fortunately NAS is not my target :) |
