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| 08:06.51 | johnrsa | hi |
| 08:07.09 | johnrsa | I have a question if anyone can help |
| 08:07.34 | johnrsa | !ls |
| 08:10.31 | [7] | johnrsa: just ask the questions, don't "ask to ask" :) |
| 08:10.33 | BigWhoop | ask |
| 08:11.26 | johnrsa | i wanted to know if anyone has got windows RT to work on there board? |
| 08:12.16 | johnrsa | if not can anyone assist me with y sip phones do not work with android and linux |
| 08:18.48 | [7] | johnrsa: windows rt is a closed source mess, no way to make that run anywhere unless microsoft does it |
| 08:19.13 | [7] | and i don't quite understand your second message |
| 08:23.21 | johnrsa | i have tried a number of sip phone applications. how ever they ether will not run on linux or have audio issue on android where the application will not use usb headsets. |
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| 08:27.04 | mnemoc | android has native sip support |
| 08:27.11 | mnemoc | no need to install any app |
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| 08:33.24 | johnrsa | cool but it still will not support usb headsets |
| 08:37.49 | johnrsa | seems as soon as i attempt to make a sip call the audio resets to default out put (3.5 jack) |
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| 09:07.46 | dongs | lol, sip |
| 09:07.54 | dongs | anyone still using that? |
| 09:08.00 | rm | sure |
| 09:08.12 | rm | any other major cross-platform VoIP standards? |
| 09:08.21 | dongs | thats the cross platform part. |
| 09:13.29 | gzamboni | johnrsa try linphone or use the libxosip2 api library |
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| 09:15.58 | johnrsa | i have tried liphone. it does not load. |
| 09:16.17 | johnrsa | which will be the best linux to use it with |
| 09:16.59 | mnemoc | ekiga is the usual choice |
| 09:17.57 | johnrsa | ekiga? |
| 09:18.04 | gzamboni | use linphonec |
| 09:18.12 | gzamboni | what do you get loading linphone |
| 09:18.14 | gzamboni | ? |
| 09:18.30 | gzamboni | do you have gui ? |
| 09:18.46 | gzamboni | using linphonec you dont need gui, its commandline |
| 09:20.04 | mnemoc | he wants GUI |
| 09:20.10 | johnrsa | i need to use a gui. i am trying to role it out to users on my sales team. |
| 09:21.33 | gzamboni | the android native sip works only using a wifi connection, if you need to use it using the gsm or gprs you will have to use another app, like sipdroid |
| 09:22.47 | gzamboni | you have linphone and other sip softwares for android also |
| 09:22.57 | gzamboni | if you dont wanna use android you can try ekiga |
| 09:25.30 | johnrsa | i have liphone working fine connecting to my server but when i make a call the audio resets to default. anyway of getting it to use usb audio. i have tried a number of apps |
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| 09:29.12 | focus | johnrsa: try twinkle - I always had good results with it on standard desktop computers |
| 09:30.16 | johnrsa | i nomally use x-lite for my desktops. that works well but not with android. |
| 09:32.00 | focus | ok - twinkle works on standard Linux, and I use x-lite before as well - android I try the one at localphone.com |
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| 09:35.22 | johnrsa | i think i tried twinkle on ubuntu. does it have a gui |
| 09:35.53 | focus | twinkle has gui |
| 09:36.23 | johnrsa | ok i will look into using that. |
| 09:37.20 | johnrsa | thanks guys |
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| 09:52.40 | rvalles | received a new power cable |
| 09:52.44 | rvalles | ... which works well. |
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| 11:06.34 | aphex | !ls |
| 11:11.34 | aphex | Hi there! I have some hw problems with the cubie's received. They were oredered for the $49 magic prise, directly from cubieboard (shopify). Who can I contact in this case? |
| 11:12.21 | mnemoc | aphex: support@cubieboard.org |
| 11:13.42 | mnemoc | some of the DC cables sent in january were defective. I received my replacement cable yesterday. (didn't have to ask for it) |
| 11:14.52 | aphex | thanks a lot! we have trouble with the sd-reader and with the sata connector |
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| 12:06.51 | chkktri | hmm, the second time i hear about defective boards |
| 12:07.42 | chkktri | is it more safe to wait for new stock than buying from aliexpress in this case? |
| 12:07.43 | Gumboot | What's this? |
| 12:08.15 | chkktri | ah, just saw someone posting about problems with board on blog and now here on channel |
| 12:09.12 | Gumboot | I just had problems with my board, but it turned out to be that stupid script.bin that I set up weeks ago and never tried booting. |
| 12:09.27 | Gumboot | Only got around to testing it because I tripped a circuit breaker. |
| 12:09.48 | chkktri | hm. |
| 12:10.26 | Gumboot | I had no idea what the problem was until I stuck the sd card into another machine and saw "safe_script.bin" in the directory listing. |
| 12:11.03 | Gumboot | Always test your boot configuration changes right away. |
| 12:11.23 | chkktri | ok, i'll mind that. |
| 12:11.54 | Gumboot | I won't. I've suffered this mistake dozens of times in my life, and I've not once learned the lesson. |
| 12:12.02 | chkktri | btw is cubieboard good choice for something like data bus recorder (or whatever this is called)? |
| 12:12.19 | Gumboot | What kind of data bus? |
| 12:12.27 | chkktri | i just want something to record data which is sent to some old chip |
| 12:12.33 | chkktri | with time delays |
| 12:12.49 | chkktri | from old yamaha synthesizer |
| 12:13.28 | Gumboot | I wouldn't normally try to do that sort of thing using Linux. |
| 12:13.44 | chkktri | oh, so linux is a bad choice for that? |
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| 12:20.15 | Gumboot | chkktri: Well, it might be able to do it, but I'd normally have more faith in a proper RTOS. |
| 12:20.38 | Gumboot | Might as well give it a go. |
| 12:21.07 | chkktri | ah, so there's specialized hardware for that kind of task |
| 12:21.47 | chkktri | wait that's OS type, my bad |
| 12:22.11 | Gumboot | Yes, but I don't know of any RTOS which has been ported to A10 chipset. |
| 12:22.20 | Gumboot | But maybe it's not hard. |
| 12:23.25 | mnemoc | allwinner has their own RTOS |
| 12:23.26 | chkktri | dunno, so far i never wrote anything harder than data log parser to get sample data. |
| 12:23.42 | Gumboot | mnemoc: Ooh... what's that, then? |
| 12:24.05 | mnemoc | hipboi: hi, do you remember the name of allwinner's RTOS and on what other RTOS is it based? |
| 12:24.14 | Gumboot | chkktri: The problem is that you don't have very strong guarantees that the OS will give you control at the times that you need it, so you might drop samples or something. |
| 12:24.21 | hipboi | mnemoc: melis |
| 12:24.34 | hipboi | mnemoc: based on uCOS |
| 12:24.36 | chkktri | ah, might be problematic then |
| 12:24.41 | Gumboot | But problems like this can be overcome by having hardware which is stupidly overpowered for the requirements. |
| 12:24.57 | chkktri | hmm |
| 12:25.08 | Gumboot | And by "overcome" I mean "mitigated". |
| 12:25.08 | chkktri | i guess GPIO can be used as parallel port? |
| 12:25.44 | chkktri | bummer, so there will be missing commands anyway |
| 12:25.50 | Gumboot | hipboi: What's the licence on melis, then? |
| 12:25.56 | mnemoc | we got a gpiolib driver, so you can write a parallel driver for it |
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| 12:28.22 | chkktri | hm |
| 12:28.32 | Gumboot | chkktri: It depends on the data rates and the hardware. If throughput isn't especially high then it's low-risk. |
| 12:28.57 | chkktri | all i can say is that chip clock is ~4MHz |
| 12:30.10 | hipboi | Gumboot: i am not sure |
| 12:30.18 | chkktri | mnemoc: can i ask you to explain a little how GPIO is used/accessed? or maybe there's written document on it? |
| 12:30.18 | hipboi | it's not used now |
| 12:30.22 | Gumboot | Well, that gives you 252 CPU cycles of compute per chip clock cycle. |
| 12:30.29 | Gumboot | hipboi: Is the source available? |
| 12:30.48 | hipboi | not sure if it's ported on A10 |
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| 12:30.58 | hipboi | it's for the ARM9 chips |
| 12:31.29 | Gumboot | uCos itself is "free for College and Universities" according to wikipedia. |
| 12:31.41 | Gumboot | I don't suppose Allwinner themselves really care about all this hobbyist stuff, do they? |
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| 12:32.22 | ffff | f |
| 12:32.24 | ffff | hi |
| 12:32.25 | Gumboot | It'd be a burden to them to deal with it, but if they cared it'd be nice to hand the port back to those who can benefit from it for free. |
| 12:32.44 | Gumboot | (students) |
| 12:32.59 | ffff | hi |
| 12:33.02 | Gumboot | hello. |
| 12:33.06 | chkktri | hi. |
| 12:33.43 | ffff | Do you know were I can buy cubieboard in europe ? thanks |
| 12:34.19 | Gumboot | chkktri: A data logger under Linux is probably going to be OK. If you do find you get packet loss then you can try being choosy about the hardware you record to (I suggest magnetic disk on SATA is probably going to be the most stable). |
| 12:34.40 | mnemoc | chkktri: gpiolib is an standard linux api available to other drivers, you can find a bunch of gpiolib-based drivers already in the kernel |
| 12:35.11 | mnemoc | chkktri: to use the gpiolib driver for the cubieboard you need to take the risk of using the stage/sunxi-3.[04] branches |
| 12:35.26 | Gumboot | Would that be able to use some kind of periodic sampling and DMA arrangement without high-frequency CPU intervention? |
| 12:37.04 | Gumboot | I wish I'd answered ffff, now. |
| 12:37.49 | mnemoc | some PIOs can be uses as external irqs, there is no sunxi eirq driver yet but will come soon |
| 12:39.06 | chkktri | so it's possible to start/stop recording after certain signal sent to chip? |
| 12:39.25 | mnemoc | in theory... |
| 12:39.36 | chkktri | http://bec-systems.com/site/281/how-to-implement-an-interrupt-driven-gpio-input-in-linux just found this, hm |
| 12:40.57 | mnemoc | PH0-PG21 and PI10-PI19 can be used as external interrupts |
| 12:41.11 | mnemoc | don't remember which of those are available in the cubieboard |
| 12:41.29 | chkktri | okay |
| 12:41.42 | chkktri | but first i need to get the board, haha |
| 12:41.49 | mnemoc | yes |
| 12:42.01 | chkktri | so, once again, is it safe to buy it on aliexpress? |
| 12:42.19 | chkktri | of i'd better to wait for them to appear in stock |
| 12:42.45 | mnemoc | hipboi mentioned miniand will receive stock first, next week or so |
| 12:43.36 | chkktri | ah, nice |
| 12:51.04 | mnemoc | iirc the rest (including the official shop) will have to wait for the next batch of PCBs in 2 weeks + assembly/testing/distributing |
| 12:52.41 | Gumboot | "official shop"? |
| 12:52.51 | mnemoc | shopify's |
| 12:53.09 | mnemoc | http://cubieboard.myshopify.com/ |
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| 13:07.12 | yirkoon | !ls |
| 13:09.14 | Gumboot | How many units are being produced, this time, anyway? |
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| 13:13.01 | mnemoc | Gumboot: iirc hipboi said it takes him 2 weeks to get 1k PCBs |
| 13:13.17 | mnemoc | i suppose that is what's marking the pace currently |
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| 13:21.24 | chkktri | another weird question, how flexible VGA output is? |
| 13:22.01 | qermit | o/ |
| 13:22.21 | chkktri | i mean, can i use old arcade/pal/ntsc/cga/ega timings on it? :) |
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| 13:25.57 | qermit | chkktri: i have no idea, you should check http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/04/mele-a2000-android-2-3-media-player-powered-by-allwinner-a10/ |
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| 13:38.11 | rm | yes and it comes with a free pony |
| 13:38.15 | rm | are you even serious |
| 13:38.32 | rm | it only recently gained support for non-HDMI resolutions like 1280x1024 |
| 13:39.07 | rm | and afaik it's still highly experimental stuff |
| 13:39.09 | chkktri | aw |
| 13:39.16 | chkktri | that's sad then |
| 13:40.37 | rm | (oh, actually it's HDMI that only recently got 1280x1024; the VGA output had it since earlier) |
| 13:41.33 | chkktri | i don't care about hdmi since i have only CRTs :P (except for laptop) |
| 13:41.37 | rm | but it's still a fixed list of resolutions/refresh rates, unless you use the patch adding EDID... which is only recently added |
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| 13:57.52 | Gumboot | Sounds like it must be hackable, if you simply cut open the EDID patch and insert hand-rolled modes. |
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| 14:55.11 | Dave77 | hipboi: http://cubieboard.org/buy/ <= it says "Hong Hong" |
| 14:59.58 | buZz | lol |
| 15:00.04 | buZz | not even Hung? |
| 15:00.06 | buZz | :P |
| 15:00.16 | buZz | Hung Dong! |
| 15:01.43 | mnemoc | fixed |
| 15:02.04 | mnemoc | should I remove the political statement about taiwan? |
| 15:03.27 | chkktri | damn, i read this as honk honk a couple of times |
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| 15:04.24 | mnemoc | won't show chkktri the name of the capital of thailand |
| 15:05.10 | chkktri | >Bangkok |
| 15:05.19 | txt_file | can I talk in private to the bot which provides the FAQ? |
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| 15:05.36 | Baikonur | yes |
| 15:05.43 | Baikonur | i don't think it answers, though |
| 15:08.18 | Dave77 | says Honk Hong now.... |
| 15:09.27 | mnemoc | damn |
| 15:09.33 | josephcubie | Hi, anybody has testested hdmi to dvi converter with Cubieboard? |
| 15:09.53 | th__ | mnemoc: imo politics should be left to politicians (: |
| 15:09.54 | txt_file | josephcubie: mine works |
| 15:10.58 | mnemoc | how about now? |
| 15:12.31 | qermit | josephcubie: i've tested simple hdmi to dvi monitor converter and it works |
| 15:12.35 | Gumboot | Is that an HDCP problem? |
| 15:12.57 | Gumboot | Some modern monitors with DVI inputs support HDCP. Some less modern ones don't. |
| 15:12.57 | qermit | Gumboot: hdcp? CB doesn't require HDCP |
| 15:13.11 | Gumboot | Isn't that usually a software configuration thing? |
| 15:13.26 | qermit | Gumboot: only streaming device can force to use HDCP |
| 15:14.57 | Gumboot | I was about to say I'd tested it with my primitive monitor, but I forgot that I was using an external DAC to do that, and the DAC is less primitive than the monitor. |
| 15:15.01 | qermit | Gumboot: i have old (2009) monitor with HDCP |
| 15:15.13 | Gumboot | I know my monitor doesn't support HDCP. |
| 15:15.17 | josephcubie | Well the problem is my monitor: only support dvi and vga but with a simple cable hdmi-dvi i see black scree |
| 15:15.18 | Dave77 | josephcubie: tried HDMI->DVI @ 576p/720p [1080i/p didn't work] but had overscan problem, android appeared ok/apart from purple screen |
| 15:15.32 | qermit | josephcubie: what image do you have? |
| 15:15.56 | qermit | i mena what linux image |
| 15:16.04 | qermit | mean* |
| 15:16.32 | josephcubie | Android nand and Linaro from micro sd |
| 15:19.47 | josephcubie | another question: flash video are very slow on Linaro only 240p is functional |
| 15:22.05 | qermit | josephcubie: i have berrybot with linaro 2012.08 and it works with 1080p |
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| 15:22.32 | qermit | with dvi monitor |
| 15:23.31 | josephcubie | watching video from youtube only 240p : slow |
| 15:25.03 | Turl | yeah it uses software decoding, it won't be fast |
| 15:27.47 | josephcubie | I've read that it's possible to use cpu-utils for play flash video faster |
| 15:28.36 | josephcubie | somebody have tried cpu-utils? |
| 15:28.59 | buZz | cpufreq utils |
| 15:29.15 | josephcubie | yes!! |
| 15:29.20 | buZz | you _SHOULD_ use cpufreq tools to control the cpufreq settings of your system |
| 15:29.28 | buZz | same applies on _every_ platform |
| 15:29.47 | buZz | anyway, you will not get better speed for flash video\ |
| 15:29.49 | buZz | flash sucks |
| 15:29.59 | josephcubie | but is good choice for to have video decoding flash faster? |
| 15:30.38 | buZz | no it is a good choice to know linux and use proper tools for proper things |
| 15:30.44 | buZz | flash is not a proper tool for playing video on A10 |
| 15:31.05 | th__ | flash is a pretty bad idea for everything |
| 15:31.09 | buZz | A10 has a video decoding chip called CedarX |
| 15:31.17 | buZz | there are _some_ video tools that support this chip |
| 15:31.28 | buZz | like some VLC version |
| 15:31.29 | josephcubie | Yes buZz I know |
| 15:31.41 | buZz | VLC also supports playing youtube videos |
| 15:31.46 | buZz | just cvlc http://youtube.com/bla |
| 15:31.48 | buZz | and it works |
| 15:31.52 | buZz | _accelerated_ |
| 15:32.36 | josephcubie | BuZz Thanks for Your Reply!!! |
| 15:32.45 | buZz | not _EVERY_ version of VLC |
| 15:32.53 | buZz | read linux-sunxi.org |
| 15:33.01 | josephcubie | OK |
| 15:33.05 | buZz | iirc linux-sunxi.org/VLC |
| 15:34.10 | josephcubie | You are a little great community!!!THanks |
| 15:34.16 | buZz | http://linux-sunxi.org/VLC |
| 15:34.24 | buZz | A10 community is pretty big |
| 15:35.51 | josephcubie | See you soon, best regards from Italy |
| 15:36.09 | qermit | does anyone has cubieboard 3d model? |
| 15:36.49 | buZz | qermit: i posted one on thingiverse |
| 15:37.15 | buZz | qermit: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:39337 |
| 15:40.07 | qermit | buZz: thx |
| 15:40.13 | buZz | yw |
| 16:00.33 | buZz | qermit: what are you going to do with it? :D |
| 16:01.24 | qermit | my friend will design Cubieboard Osciloscpe case |
| 16:01.36 | qermit | i hope |
| 16:02.05 | buZz | ah nice |
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| 16:51.39 | BigWhoop | there was a question and an answer buzz :D |
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| 17:03.39 | Guest73244 | Is anyone here having problems with the SD card? |
| 17:05.00 | mnemoc | Guest73244: usual trick #1, blow the slot. usual trick #2, try a different card |
| 17:07.12 | Guest73244 | hummm....I've tryied 3 different cards (one of wich is running on my R-PI) |
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| 17:15.49 | Turl | mnemoc: we got a spammy person on cb mailing list :< |
| 17:16.23 | mnemoc | Turl: link to a post? |
| 17:16.44 | mnemoc | i can block from there |
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| 17:17.14 | Turl | mnemoc: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!category-topic/cubieboard/PkKPgAf3F8s |
| 17:17.28 | Turl | and https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!category-topic/cubieboard/M10YL_o54uU |
| 17:18.54 | mnemoc | ok, banned and posts removed |
| 17:19.32 | Turl | thanks :) |
| 17:21.32 | mnemoc | yw |
| 17:22.32 | Baikonur | ads or abuse? |
| 17:23.48 | Turl | Baikonur: recruiter with non native english abilities asking for profiles for database jobs, clearly spam imo |
| 17:24.30 | Turl | mnemoc: hm, I see wiki account spam has gone up again :< need to change the questions |
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| 19:38.26 | jelly-home | Turl: make the answer always be "orange"! |
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| 19:49.01 | suhanc | bye |
| 20:04.59 | Turl | jelly-home: ? |
| 20:05.22 | Turl | lost context |
| 20:06.41 | Baikonur | wiki thing |
| 20:07.10 | Turl | ah |
| 20:09.42 | jelly-home | there was a well-known blog site once that had various captcha images and questions... but the answer was always "orange" |
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| 20:17.39 | tinti | hipboi: does allwinner have any Cortex A15? |
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| 20:24.50 | Turl | jelly-home: heh |
| 20:25.03 | Turl | jelly-home: we used to have a generic captcha but bots broke it easily |
| 20:25.09 | Turl | now we have sunxi questions |
| 20:25.18 | Turl | which they probably 'learned' by now |
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| 21:32.45 | qermit | configured cubieboard as remote audio |
| 21:32.53 | qermit | configured cubieboard as remote audio sink |
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| 22:21.12 | Turl | qermit: :) |
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| 23:11.57 | pirea | what modules i need to load for tv out? |
| 23:12.00 | pirea | hy all |
| 23:15.31 | pirea | disp :) |
| 23:15.37 | pirea | tnx for nothing |
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